[12:00] <LjL> CarlFK: not talking for OOo specifically though
[12:00] <CarlFK> LjL, but it isn't a CSV, it is space seperated: http://paste.foxshare.net:8888/538
[12:00] <Fracture> Tallia1Kubuntu: you are welcome.. here's a link, its a hard one to find http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[12:00] <dli> nickrud, http://cgi.ebay.ca/Actiontec-External-Serial-USB-56K-V-92-Dialup-Modem_W0QQitemZ6856569904QQcategoryZ14920QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[12:00] <LjL> CarlFK: doesn't matter i think... at least under the spreadsheets i use, a CSV can really be anything-separated. it's asked during load
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> aha......
[12:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Fracture: it's in the reps
[12:01] <Fracture> yeah
[12:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so i don't have to search for anything
[12:01] <Fracture> Tallia1Kubuntu: yeah
[12:01] <CarlFK> LjL, but it opened it in OOwritter
[12:01] <CarlFK> somewhere is a "help parse this data" wizy thing
[12:01] <dli> nickrud, you may bid also, this link is for buy it now, maybe you should wait to see whether it works on ubuntu for me
[12:01] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[12:02] <LjL> CarlFK: uh, can't you just load it from inside OOCalc? i'm not quite familiar with OOo you see. but it can't see it working much differently from KOffice
[12:02] <CarlFK> LjL, in OOCalc, I did File, Open, ss.txt and OOwriter opened up with my file in it...
[12:03] <LjL> CarlFK: oh. i see. get rid of OOo then :)
[12:03] <curley_sue> LjL, dli thanx, I'll check them out... (I tried urxvt but it seems to b outdated in the ubuntu repositories)
[12:03] <heyjoe2> ubuntu is not recognizing my 128mb usb device. however, it automatically recognizes the drive on my mp3 player. any ideas on how to get it to work?
[12:03] <V4Vendetta> heyjoe2~ have you tried manually mounting it
[12:03] <LjL> CarlFK: or rather... is there a File / Import instead of Open?
[12:04] <CarlFK> LjL I thought there was, can't find it
[12:04] <heyjoe2> how does one manually mount a device?
[12:04] <usr> How can I pack files to a .rar ?
[12:04] <dli> heyjoe2, find the device name in /var/log/syslog
[12:04] <nickrud> dli: make sure it's Model # EX560LKA (from the picture showing a serial port, I'd think it is)
[12:04] <dli> heyjoe2, and "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whatever"
[12:04] <LjL> CarlFK: apt-get install rar
[12:05] <LjL> CarlFK: sorry, that what for usr
[12:05] <CarlFK> rar?
[12:05] <CarlFK> ah
[12:05] <usr> I did...
[12:05] <dli> nickrud, great, does it work in linux? the company page says windows only
[12:05] <LjL> usr: note, *rar* now, not *unrar*
[12:05] <heyjoe2> /var/log/syslog says command not found
[12:06] <ruzgar> anybody know a german-english dictionary program for linux
[12:06] <kate19> how do I unmount a partition?
[12:06] <enix> DCC SEND 30349092348053485
[12:06] <LjL> usr: as for how to actually use it, someone else might probably help, as i don't remember the rar syntax. but "man rar" could help as well
[12:06] <chuckyp> kate19, umount
[12:06] <kate19> ok
[12:06] <nickrud> dli: serial port == perfect linux support.
[12:06] <kate19> thankyou
[12:06] <Jar1go> hey, im following this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#install, but then i type ndiswrapper -l it like hangs... any ideas?
[12:06] <chuckyp> kate19, umount /dev/<whatever>
[12:06] <chuckyp> kate19, did you get it working btw?
[12:06] <heyjoe2> any ideas on how to get around /var/log/syslog not working
[12:07] <dli> nickrud, this one is both serial/USB
[12:07] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, dmesg tail
[12:07] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ps -A | grep syslogd should report systlogd
[12:08] <heyjoe2> chuckyp and nicrud: sorry i am very new to linux
[12:08] <heyjoe2> what command do i type?
[12:08] <nickrud> dli: ok, I'll wait until you buy one, then 
[12:08] <ompaul> macgabriel87, that is a problem with your router if you change to log onto irc on 8001 it does not coour aain
[12:08] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, try ps aux | grep syslog
[12:08] <ompaul> macgabriel87, occur again even
[12:08] <svfusion> hey
[12:08] <dli> nickrud, this one is on wholesale, http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-1-000-Actiontec-56K-External-Modem-USB-Serial-V-92_W0QQitemZ6855815608QQcategoryZ14920QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[12:08] <svfusion> is there a way I can write a new MRB using a LiveCD?
[12:08] <svfusion> MBR**
[12:08] <nickrud> heyjoe2: what are actually looking for?
[12:09] <chuckyp> svfusion, MBR for what os?
[12:09] <svfusion> one that I use install GRUB onto
[12:09] <svfusion> right now I don't care
[12:09] <svfusion> lol
[12:09] <heyjoe2> nickrud: im trying to get my usb drive to work
[12:09] <usr> oh okay thanks
[12:09] <ompaul> !grub
[12:09] <heyjoe2> chuckyp: i typed that command, what should i be looking for in it?
[12:09] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:10] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ok. I remember now  Again, I don't have a usb thumbdrive, but here's a way to get some more info, that might help someone help you
[12:10] <svfusion> yeah, but none of those tell you how to write a new MBR
[12:10] <jenda> Can somebody please help me with this networking error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9797
[12:10] <nickrud> heyjoe2: in a terminal, type tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:10] <svfusion> those tell you how to install GRUB, which I know how too
[12:10] <nickrud> heyjoe2: then, plug in your thumbdrive, and then unplug it. You should get some info
[12:10] <chuckyp> svfusion, well when you install grub, you will be writing the new mbr.
[12:10] <svfusion> ok
[12:10] <svfusion> I installed grub
[12:11] <svfusion> so lets see what happens
[12:11] <svfusion> lol
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> Iit it possible for me to recompile just one module for the kernel I am using (2.6.12-k7 - the latest version of) or is the only way to rebuild the whole thing ? (Just need to add some strings to detect a usb device)
[12:11] <dli> h3sp4wn, I would build my own kernel
[12:11] <dli> h3sp4wn, up to the latest version
[12:12] <ubuntu_> je ne sais pas comment faire pour installer des programes
[12:12] <LjL> !fr
[12:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:12] <LjL> !tell ubuntu_ about shortapt
[12:12] <CarlFK> bah.. had to rename it from .txt to .csv, now I get the wizy thing...
[12:13] <Jowi> h3sp4wn: i would compile my own kernel as well. use as few modules as possible. your boot time will cut in half.
[12:13] <heyjoe2> nickrud: i typed the command u recommended and then plugged and unplugged it and some more writing came up in the command line? what does it all mean? how do i get it to recognize the device?
[12:14] <ubuntu_> allo est ce que quelqu'un se propose pour me montrer
[12:14] <asterisk99> abytone know how to (properly) install kernel-sources ??? It says to use make-kpkg, bur doc is confusing as to what files go where  <-------
[12:14] <heyjoe2> can i paste what came up somewhere for u to see
[12:14] <nickrud> heyjoe2: copy that writing that came up to a pastebin,
[12:14] <LjL> ubotu, tell ubuntu_ about fr
[12:14] <nickrud> heyjoe2: you're ahead of me already 
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> Jowi / dli - should I use the latest ubuntu kernel or official ? I am using non free ati-drivers and an rl2500 wireless which I don't think is in the main kernel
[12:14] <heyjoe2> how do i get to a pastebin?
[12:14] <LjL> ubuntu_: nous parlons seulement anglais ici
[12:14] <pavlovsdog> to compile or to reference, asterisk99 ?
[12:14] <Jowi> ubuntu_ il y a #ubuntu-fr pour l'aide en francais.
[12:14] <pavlovsdog> you want to compile a kernel?
[12:14] <dli> h3sp4wn, get the latest ubuntu kernel-source
[12:15] <Kr4t05> LjL: Scary thing: I understood that. o.o
[12:15] <dli> heyjoe2, pastebin.com
[12:15] <asterisk99> pavlogsdog: I need only the source to compile digium's zaptel driver
[12:15] <Jowi> h3sp4wn: i don't have a ati or wireless so I am not the best person to ask :)
[12:15] <LjL> Kr4t05: what, what i said? that's perhaps because i don't speak french ;)
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> dli - So I get them from the dapper respositary ?
[12:15] <asterisk99> pavlovsdog: I need only the source to compile digium's zaptel driver
[12:15] <pavlovsdog> asterisk99: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:15] <bedi> how i change the menu bar icon ?
[12:15] <pavlovsdog> ` not '
[12:15] <dli> h3sp4wn, yes, apt-get update;apt-get install
[12:16] <pavlovsdog> they'll be in /usr/src/
[12:16] <nickrud> heyjoe2: $paste
[12:16] <pavlovsdog> reference them with /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include or whatever
[12:16] <nickrud> heyjoe2: my auto replace is fubar'd : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:16] <heyjoe2> i pasted it now what do i do?
[12:16] <LjL> heyjoe2: give him the URL
[12:16] <pavlovsdog> now paste the link to the paste
[12:16] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, you give me the url
[12:16] <asterisk99> pavlovsdog: Do I do that INSTEAD of apt-get install kernel-header? or after?
[12:17] <heyjoe2> ah ok
[12:17] <heyjoe2> http://pastebin.com/587929
[12:17] <heyjoe2> thank u so much
[12:17] <pavlovsdog> asterisk99: when you want to tell something where the headers are, the second method is one way.. /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include i mean ... or supply full path
[12:18] <macgabriel87> i have a simple question: can i print to a printer that is connected to a mac on a local network?
[12:18] <nickrud> ok, is there anyone here that can point to where the thumbdrive should be mounted, based on http://pastebin.com/587929
[12:18] <pavlovsdog> asterisk99: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`  first ... ` not '
[12:18] <asterisk99> btw, for the curious: I found out why Colonel is pronounced "kernel".... Colonels were originally in charge of a column in the Roman army
[12:18] <dli> heyjoe2, what partition do yo have on sda? if you have none? try, "mount /dev/sda /mnt/whatever"
[12:19] <ruzgar> i have a lcd monitor and i have installed the true type fonts but the fonts doesnt seem exactly as windows true type rendering
[12:19] <ruzgar> what setting do you advive
[12:19] <asterisk99> pavlovsdog: Sorry... you confused me   (newbie here)
[12:19] <ruzgar> what setting do you advice
[12:19] <heyjoe2> what do i type instead of whatever? i dont know what partition i have or exactly what that means. sorry im very new
[12:19] <dli> heyjoe2, have a look, "ls /mnt"
[12:19] <djm62> asterisk99: what does that have to do with the pronunciation? nobody knows how the romans pronounced stuff....
[12:19] <LjL> heyjoe2: don't worry, at least you didn't actually type "whatever"
[12:19] <nickrud> lmao
[12:20] <nickrud> heyjoe2: try navigating to /media using the file manager; you may see something there
[12:20] <heyjoe2> typing ls/mnt does nothing
[12:20] <LjL> djm62: we have quite a few clues though
[12:20] <asterisk99> djm62: they actually still speak Latin at the Vatican --- The RC church has never really dropped its use
[12:20] <LjL> heyjoe2: "ls /mnt", with a space. should show you a list of directories
[12:20] <curley_sue> dli, Terminal seems like what I was looking 4. thanx! (in case u know of a lighter multi-tab + unicode - I'd like to hear!) ;-)
[12:21] <djm62> asterisk99: church latin is horrible!
[12:21] <nickrud> it's all academic: we speak classical greek differently than most europeans
[12:21] <LjL> asterisk99: they don't pronunce nearly as similarly as the romans pronunced it (which, anyway, varied depending on the period). anyway - offtopic
[12:21] <djm62> (or so my churchgoing, latinate buds tell me)
[12:21] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:21] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:21] <heyjoe2> ljl: im copying exactly what you told me ls /mnt into the command line and nothing happens
[12:21] <asterisk99> pavlovsdog: Sorry... you confused me   (newbie here) ... Do I do sudo apt-get kernel-source    and then   sudo apt-get install linus-headers-`uname -r  ???
[12:22] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now try ls /media
[12:22] <LjL> heyjoe2: then you've got nothing inside /mnt. try "sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk" (you can call it what you like actually)
[12:22] <LjL> heyjoe2: yeah, /media is a better choice anyway
[12:22] <heyjoe2> ls /media gives nothing too
[12:23] <LjL> heyjoe2: then do what i said (strange anyway), but do it in /media
[12:23] <nickrud> heyjoe2: then, save that paste, and put up the link along with your question. Someone who knows better may happen along
[12:23] <Jowi> heyjoe2: yeah, make a new directory in /media. "sudo mkdir /media/usb-disk"
[12:24] <sHaDe> n8 all
[12:24] <zF> Can someone help me configure my wireless PCMCIA card? I believe it's loading and working with the wrong kernel modules. The card is a Senao SL2511 CD PLUS Ext2  (Prism 2.5 chipset)
[12:24] <CarlFK> Ok, now that I have my data in OOCalc, anyone know how to rotate it? - I want the rows to be cols
[12:24] <heyjoe2> none of these commands are doing anything in the command line
[12:24] <shiv> my screen suddenly started violently blinking when I login to Gnome, Kde works fine. :(
[12:24] <dli> zF, is it in the kernel?
[12:24] <heyjoe2> is that normal?
[12:24] <LjL> heyjoe2: they're not supposed to
[12:24] <heyjoe2> oh ok
[12:24] <heyjoe2> so now what do i do?
[12:24] <LjL> heyjoe2: just try again mounting, and use the new directory instead of that /mnt/whatever
[12:24] <dli> zF, otherwise, you may try prism54.org
[12:24] <Jowi> heyjoe2: yes, it is normal. when you get no responce back that usually means that the command was successful
[12:25] <zF> dli" is what in the kernel?
[12:25] <heyjoe2> so type /mnt/usb-disk
[12:25] <heyjoe2> ?
[12:25] <zF> it loads up orinoco_cs kernel modules for the card, when that isn't the right drivers for it.
[12:25] <LjL> heyjoe2: no, "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb-disk" (or /media/usb-disk, where did you create it?)
[12:26] <Jowi> LjL: no not /dev/sda1. it is seen as /dev/sda
[12:26] <LjL> heyjoe2, Jowi: make that /dev/sda then
[12:26] <dli> zF, what's in "iwconfig"
[12:26] <heyjoe2> ljl: thisi is what ive typed- ls /media
[12:26] <heyjoe2> sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk
[12:26] <heyjoe2> sudo mkdir /media/usb-disk
[12:26] <LjL> heyjoe2: you only needed one of those two. anyway, "sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usb-disk"
[12:26] <zF> for the device, registering as eth2 (should be wlan0) it spits out some information
[12:27] <zF> the nickname of the card is prism1, which is all wrong
[12:27] <zF> Just more evidence it's using the wrong driver
[12:27] <paul_> i'm trying to install the ssh server using apt-get... I get a dependencie error for openssh-server.. and an E: Broken Packages -- any help?
[12:27] <LjL> nickrud: me too, but it's not the first time i see this. i guess USB disks can be formatted unpartitioned
[12:27] <dli> nickrud, it's a 128MB, so there may not be a partition table on it
[12:27] <Cafuego> nickrud: That depends on whether a partiton map was written.
[12:27] <roaet> When I set up ubuntu I set up postfix, but now I don't know how to modify that setup. Can anyone help me?
[12:27] <nickrud> wow!
[12:27] <heyjoe2> ljl: i typed that and now?
[12:27] <dli> Cafuego, you switched to ubuntu?
[12:27] <Cafuego> roaet: Depends on what you want to do; it may be easiest to edit /etc/postfix/main.cf by hand.
[12:27] <LjL> heyjoe2: now type "ls /media/usb-disk". you should see the contents of your disk
[12:28] <Cafuego> dli: well over a year ago (on the desktops)
[12:28] <roaet> Ah ok I'll try that Cafuego. but in addition how do I set up evolution to check my postfix?
[12:28] <heyjoe2> when i typed ls /media/usb-disk nothing happens
[12:28] <dli> Cafuego, why not to gentoo? I heard most people do
[12:28] <LjL> heyjoe2: is your USB disk empty?
[12:28] <heyjoe2> nope
[12:28] <Sir_quicken> Ok I need 2 know how 2 enable samba on th gnome desktop of unbuntu
[12:28] <Cafuego> dli: I have more fun ways of wasting time whan using gentoo.
[12:28] <LjL> heyjoe2: did the "sudo mount" command give you any errors?
[12:28] <paul_> i'm trying to install the ssh server using apt-get... I get a dependencie error for openssh-server.. and an E: Broken Packages -- any help?
[12:29] <heyjoe2> no
[12:29] <LjL> paul_: tried "sudo apt-get update"?
[12:29] <Jowi> heyjoe2: did you get any errors when you typed "sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usb-disk"?
[12:29] <Cafuego> roaet: How do you mean? Postfix *only* does smtp. If you want to check mail on your server, you will need a pop3 or imap server.
[12:29] <Sir_quicken> also need 2 know how 2 share a foler without it stuck on my HD permenatly
[12:29] <paul_> LjL, yes -- goes through a long list of "Hit" s and thats it
[12:29] <riddlebox> j #mythtv-users
[12:29] <riddlebox> oops sorry
[12:29] <nickrud> heyjoe2: it'll be easier for everyone, if you add the name of someone when you type, it makes it red for them
[12:29] <djm62> CarlFK: paste special with transpose option?
[12:29] <LjL> paul_: paste your errors to the pastebin
[12:29] <heyjoe2> nickrud: thanks
[12:30] <dli> Cafuego, you just waste your computer time, on idel or on emerging, choice is yours
[12:30] <nickrud> heyjoe2: exactly (I also get the ubuntu drumroll ;)
[12:30] <shiv> my screen suddenly started violently blinking when I login to Gnome, Kde works fine. :(
[12:30] <CarlFK> djm62: no way...
[12:30] <usr> whenever I try to open a site with a .php file let's sa y www.bah.com/download.php my stupid firefox opens the download box so I could download download.php
[12:30] <CarlFK> djm62: I hope so ;)
[12:30] <usr> how can I fix it?
[12:30] <dli> shiv, gnome is buggy nowadays
[12:30] <Sir_quicken> Can any1 te4ll me how 2 set up samba shares on a gnome desktop plz?
[12:30] <heyjoe2> jowi: no, i didnt get any errors
[12:30] <LjL> Jowi, nickrud: guess i haven't the slightest idea about heyjoe2's problem
[12:30] <ompaul> dli, if your talking about dapper you need to be in #ubuntu+1
[12:31] <Jowi> shiv: either there are wrong VertRefresh in xorg.conf or you have some hardware problem
[12:31] <paul_> LjL, http://pastebin.com/587954
[12:31] <dli> Jowi, kde works
[12:31] <CarlFK> djm62: it worked !
[12:31] <djm62> CarlFK: I'm not entirely sure what you hope for, but that allows you to paste your data with rows and columns swapped :)
[12:31] <nickrud> LjL: heyjoe2 got to looking at syslog, a move in the right direction. I had to help a bit at that point
[12:31] <usr> someone help me please
[12:31] <ompaul> !anyone
[12:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[12:31] <LjL> paul_: oh but, you tried installing openssh-server directly instead of ssh?
[12:32] <roaet> How can I set up evolution to check my postfix mail?
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> usr: I've seen that.  I just hit cancel, reload the page, and it's fine.
[12:32] <Sir_quicken> I cant network between linux & windows 200 :( the computers dont see each other
[12:32] <dli> nickrud, since he doesn't understand basic commands, it might be way out of my imagination
[12:32] <paul_> LjL, yes, i'll paste another error for that
[12:32] <pavlovsdog> asterisk99: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:32] <dli> Sir_quicken, I suppose samba is the way
[12:32] <gameface> argh i cant take it any longer but ubuntu n kubuntuis messin u for me
[12:32] <gameface> both*
[12:32] <pavlovsdog> asterisk99: if you want to compile a kernel, you want linux-source
[12:32] <ompaul> roaet, you need to run a pop daemon or imap daemon in between you and the mail server unless they are on the same box
[12:32] <heyjoe2> any idea on where to go from here?
[12:32] <jenda> what's the command to restart samba?
[12:32] <usr> tonyyarusso,  doesn't work here
[12:32] <usr> :s
[12:33] <Sir_quicken> nowhere do  Ihaveeasy access 2 networking
[12:33] <pavlovsdog> /etc/init.d/samba restart iirc
[12:33] <roaet> ompaul: they are on the same box.
[12:33] <ompaul> roaet, imap better
[12:33] <paul_> LjL, here is the error for "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" http://pastebin.com/587958
[12:33] <FLSimpsonKPT> has anyone used suse 10?
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> usr: I don't know why it does that; maybe send a bug report to Mozilla.
[12:33] <nickrud> heyjoe2: if you had no errors with the mount command, try ls /media/usb-disk
[12:33] <usr> okay
[12:33] <ompaul> roaet, let me look it up
[12:33] <pavlovsdog> FLSimpsonKPT: ppl in #suse have
[12:33] <gameface> lol i thke all you guys expertise are in ubuntu n not kubuntu which i switched over to
[12:33] <Sir_quicken> How do I run Samba config?
[12:33] <nickrud> gameface: what's kubuntu ;)
[12:34] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok i typed that and didn't get any errors.
[12:34] <Sir_quicken> kde desktop
[12:34] <roaet> thank you ompaul
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> gameface: #kubuntu would help with that...
[12:34] <gameface> lol funny
[12:34] <LjL> paul_: that's breezy, isn't it?
[12:34] <gameface> yeah they suck in there
[12:34] <paul_> Ljl: yes
[12:34] <djm62> jenda: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart ?
[12:34] <gameface> lol their not very helpful at all
[12:34] <nickrud> heyjoe2: did you get any file listings, at all?
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> gameface: Ah.
[12:34] <gameface> lol i shoud of kept ubuntu
[12:34] <FLSimpsonKPT> pavlovsdog: is that on the same IRC channel? How do I connect to it.
[12:34] <jenda> djm62: got it thanks
[12:34] <heyjoe2> nickrud: yes i got three lines. should i pastebin?
[12:35] <nickrud> heyjoe2: yes
[12:35] <Sir_quicken> I dont need 2 reastart samb I need 2 run the shares
[12:35] <Omega-red> i can't config my ati video card to use 3d on ubuntu 5.10 (i'm using a laptop hp amd64 3200+ with ati radeon xpress 200m igp) somebody can help me here?
[12:35] <LjL> paul_: it says version 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1 of the client is going to be installed, but myself i have version 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (the one it wants). so i suppose you might have some third-party repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list that provider a newer openssh-client (and you might have that one installed as well)
[12:35] <heyjoe2> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/587963
[12:36] <paul_> Ljl: I added the repositories listed on ubuntuguides.org
[12:36] <LjL> paul_: try "apt-cache policy openssh-client", see what's installed - if anything - and where it came from
[12:36] <chuckyp> What kernel is ubuntu 5.10 currently using?
[12:36] <LjL> !tell paul_ about ubuntuguide
[12:36] <bimberi> chuckyp: 2.6.12
[12:36] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ok, you're looking at the wrong place. and, I see what's happening to you. Open another terminal first
[12:36] <pavlovsdog> FLSimpsonKPT: you don't have to /part to /join
[12:36] <pavlovsdog> jsut /join
[12:36] <paul_> ahhh i see
[12:36] <LjL> !tell paul_ about easysource
[12:36] <heyjoe2> nickrud: close this and open another terminal, or open two at the same time?
[12:36] <nickrud> heyjoe2: two
[12:37] <Sir_quicken> HOW DO I share a folder & get windowas & linux 2 comunicate??
[12:37] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[12:37] <Sir_quicken> windows*
[12:37] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell Sir_quicken about samba
[12:37] <Fredde> Sir_quicken: you mean like shareing files/folders?
[12:37] <djm62> Sir_quicken: samba/windows file sharing
[12:37] <LjL> paul_: if you actually have that wrong version of openssh-client installed, remove it using "apt-cache --purge remove openssh-client", then reinstall it after your repositories are good
[12:37] <nickrud> heyjoe2: the first one is still following what's happening in syslog, and if you were typing there, nothing was done correctly  Sorry
[12:37] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell Sir_quicken about ssh
[12:37] <dyggMerald> anyone else having trouble with bzflag in breezy.. its broken and i guess it has been ever since.. i dont get why noone is fixing this
[12:37] <Omega-red> i can't config my ati video card to use 3d on ubuntu 5.10 (i'm using a laptop hp amd64 3200+ with ati radeon xpress 200m igp) somebody can help me here?
[12:37] <Sir_quicken> I know what it is Moron I need 2 know how qw2 Use it
[12:37] <paul_> Ljl, http://pastebin.com/587967
[12:37] <Sir_quicken> 2*
[12:37] <nickrud> heyjoe2: so, in the second terminal: sudo mkdir /media/usb-stick
[12:37] <Sir_quicken> GOD
[12:38] <heyjoe2> nickrud: typed that
[12:38] <dyggMerald> isnt it a better policy to include a new possible unstable one .. than to keep a old obviously broken version..
[12:38] <LjL> paul_: uuh, know what? it isn't quite clear to me where that version came from. looks like you had installed it manually using dpkg...?
[12:38] <ompaul> roaet, I have been looking at the help files on evolution it is easier if I guide you to the text there, check Getting Started - Sending and Receiving E-Mail - then the section on checking new mail
[12:38] <paul_> ehh
[12:38] <paul_> nope
[12:38] <LjL> paul_: try just removing it (using the command i said, not just remove) and reinstalling
[12:38] <paul_> lol
[12:39] <nickrud> heyjoe2: next type sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usb-stick
[12:39] <Sir_quicken> ssh not the problem linux runs ntlmssp
[12:39] <LjL> paul_: actually - remove it, issue a "sudo apt-get clean", and reinstall
[12:39] <heyjoe2> nickrud: done
[12:39] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, type ls /media/usb-stick
[12:39] <roaet> ompaul: ok I'll look for that.
[12:39] <Fracture> anyone know of a wiki that has also has a gnome desktop app interface ?
[12:39] <heyjoe2> nickrud: hey its come up!
[12:39] <heyjoe2> nickrud: thank you
[12:40] <nickrud> heyjoe2: we both learned something today 
[12:40] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now to make that permanent
[12:40] <paul_> LjL: just type "sudo apt-get clean" and thats it? (no arguments)
[12:40] <eatnumber1> can someone help me get the ubuntu server install to recognize my pcmcia wired and wireless cards?
[12:40] <Sir_quicken> no anyone wanna play with my wiki :P joking
[12:40] <LjL> paul_: yes, that will clean your APT cache, so that it will not try to reuse the same package
[12:40] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type cd /etc
[12:40] <Sir_quicken> sorry dirty mind :)
[12:40] <LjL> nickrud: a quick summary of how you got that to work please?
[12:41] <paul_> Ljl: should i fix my repositories before trying to reinstall?
[12:41] <zF> nickrud: do you have any talent with configuring wireless cards?
[12:41] <djm62> Fracture: um, you mean a gnome web browser?
[12:41] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok typed cd /etc. so it should work all the time now?
[12:41] <nickrud> LjL: he was typing into the same terminal as syslog was being logged, all of his typing was for naught.
[12:41] <riddlebox> where is the php interpreter in ubuntu?
[12:41] <Fracture> djm62: no.
[12:41] <LjL> paul_: i'd say just try to reinstall first. though, sooner or later, i suppose you really should fix your repositories
[12:41] <Omega-red> ati+amd64=crash?!
[12:41] <LjL> nickrud: ...... oh
[12:41] <nickrud> heyjoe2: not yet. Next, type sudo cp fstab fstab-before-usb-stick
[12:41] <Fracture> djm62: I'd like something that has a UI interface like tomboy, but is also a wiki
[12:42] <heyjoe2> nickrud: done
[12:42] <Fracture> djm62: i.e. that has both web editing interface, as well as a rich desktop interface
[12:42] <LjL> nickrud: so next time someone asks "that didn't print anything, is that right?", i suppose we should ask if at least a shell prompt is being printed, in the furure =)
[12:42] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, type gksudo gedit fstab
[12:42] <bimberi> riddlebox: php5-cli (or php4-cli)
[12:42] <Sir_quicken> Question for domain I am not using a domain, is it also specifying workgroup?
[12:42] <nickrud> LjL: right. I just got lucky, I've done that
[12:42] <djm62> Fracture: nope, can't think of anything like that (still getting the hang of tomboy, to be honest)
[12:43] <eatnumber1> hey, i'm trying to get a minimal install of ubuntu on my laptop with a GUI (not necessarily GNOME though) so I installed ubuntu as a server, but can't get it to recognize my pcmcia ethernet card
[12:43] <riddlebox> bimberi, I need to put the path to it, like /usr/lib/php or something?
[12:43] <biloyp> nickrud, ok easiest thing to do is to buy a inexpensivve fax machine for faxing
[12:43] <heyjoe2> nickrud: we could have a problem, i got what appears to be an error message
[12:44] <bimberi> riddlebox: no, its a package you need to install (sorry, a bit cryptic)
[12:44] <Sir_quicken> QUESTION: ion my ethernet card settings I si asking for a domain BUT I dont have a domain  its a workgroup, Is that what its asking for?
[12:44] <nickrud> biloyp: rlfol, that is what most people seem to do
[12:44] <riddlebox> ohh ok thanks
[12:44] <nickrud> heyjoe2: yes?
[12:44] <shiv> all repos giving me trouble. says can't connect. Is this normal?
[12:44] <heyjoe2> nickrud: (gedit:10335): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:44] <heyjoe2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:44] <LjL> shiv: guess not :)
[12:44] <LjL> shiv: did they work before / did you change anything?
[12:45] <r0x0r> !ssh
[12:45] <ubotu> I heard ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[12:45] <shiv> I have not changed a thing
[12:45] <biloyp> nickrud....yeah I give up with this laptop...hopefully in the future more support will come from the various vendors
[12:45] <LjL> shiv: they might be down. what mirrors are you using?
[12:45] <paul_> Ljl: thankyou, i fixed the repositories, then i'll try reinstalling ssh -- i'll let you know if i need anything else :)
[12:45] <shiv> My gdm went down so am using kde
[12:45] <biloyp> thx for helping and saving me time messing with this
[12:45] <riddlebox> bimberi, I am writing an asterisk script and ontop of the script it says to put the path to the interpreter?
[12:45] <dli> shiv, kdm can load gnome
[12:45] <roaet> ompaul: thank you I have set it up.
[12:45] <nickrud> hm, heyjoe2 try that again: gksudo gedit fstab
[12:46] <Sir_quicken> I am NOT getting the options that the site specifies CAN ANY1 HELP E??
[12:46] <Toran> Hey guys, how can I change my root password in ubuntu? I lost it.
[12:46] <LjL> !tell toran about root
[12:46] <ompaul> roaet, sometimes it is not knowing what it is knowing where
[12:46] <Sir_quicken> users & groups
[12:46] <Toran> It is also incidentally my user passwrd
[12:46] <eatnumber1> can someone tell me how to use scp? Whenever I try to scp a file to another computer, it says the connection is refused
[12:46] <nickrud> biloyp: seems to me you wasted some time on it already
[12:46] <Toran> So I can't use sudo to change it
[12:46] <paul_> Ljl: would you reccomend using the synaptic updater when critical updates are available (icon shows up in task bar) or would you reccomend using apt-get all the time
[12:46] <ompaul> roaet, to look
[12:46] <Toran> because I can't get into the computer
[12:46] <heyjoe2> nickrud: i typed it and nothing happens
[12:46] <Toran> Linux Single mode asks for the root password
[12:46] <LjL> Toran: boot into rescue mode and change it from there
[12:46] <theine> eatnumber1: is the other computer running a ssh server?
[12:46] <Sir_quicken> ypou can also open a trminal & login 2 su by typing su & your password
[12:46] <Toran> I see
[12:47] <LjL> paul_: i have no experience with synaptic at all, i use aptitude exclusively
[12:47] <biloyp> nickrud, sorta but I learned about minicom and troubleshooting this type of problem, so gaining knowledge isnt a waste..thx again
[12:47] <heyjoe2> nickrud: but im a little bit concerned that the usual frank@ubuntu: did not appear before the command
[12:47] <roaet> ompaul: indeed :D
[12:47] <chuckyp> What kernel is ubuntu 5.10 using?
[12:47] <dli> Toran, at least, you can boot with "init=/bin/sh"
[12:47] <LjL> chuckyp: latest is 2.6.12-10
[12:47] <eatnumber1> theine: i didden't kno one was neccesary
[12:47] <paul_> Ljl: what command would i use to update everything when a critical update is available? just apt-get update?
[12:47] <LjL> chuckyp: 2.6.12 in any case
[12:47] <dli> biloyp, I think wvdial is enough for me, no need for minicom
[12:47] <nickrud> heyjoe2: you must have that frank@ubuntu: for typing to count.
[12:47] <eatnumber1> theine: do you know of one that you'd recommend?
[12:47] <LjL> paul_: no, "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:47] <Toran> OK, recovery mode is asking for the root pass for maintenance
[12:47] <paul_> ok
[12:47] <chuckyp> LjL, do you know when they are releasing next version or kernel 2.6.15?
[12:47] <heyjoe2> nickrud: know how i get it back?
[12:48] <biloyp> nickrud yep ..take care..outta here
[12:48] <theine> eatnumber1: is the other computer running ubuntu?
[12:48] <LjL> paul_: (or make that "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", if you prefer aptitude. i do)
[12:48] <bimberi> riddlebox: i guess that will be 'usr/bin/php5' (or whatever) once you install the package
[12:48] <dli> Toran, init=/bin/sh shouldn't ask for passwd
[12:48] <LjL> chuckyp: don't think they will in 5.10
[12:48] <eatnumber1> theine: the one I'm trying to scp to is ubuntu, the client is openwrt
[12:48] <nickrud> heyjoe2: I'd suggest closing everything right now, (except xchat ;) so we know where you are
[12:48] <ompaul> !tell chuckyp about distrologic
[12:48] <Toran> dli: Thanks. I'll try that
[12:48] <ompaul> chuckyp, have a look at the url in the message the bot sent you
[12:48] <riddlebox> bimberi, I figured it out thanks
[12:49] <bimberi> riddlebox: ha, so i was too slow :P
[12:49] <LjL> Toran: by the way, why do you *have* a root password, especially when it's the same as your user password? =)
[12:49] <theine> eatnumber1: just install the openssh-server package on the ubuntu machine
[12:49] <heyjoe2> nickrud: when i was closing everything i noticed an fstab window. when i went to close it, it asked me if i should save changes?
[12:49] <rob__> anyone here play wesnoth?
[12:49] <nickrud> heyjoe2: say no
[12:49] <eatnumber1> theine: any configuration of it needed?
[12:49] <chuckyp> Just debating ubuntu or debian for my home pc.  I like the speed of debian on my laptop.
[12:49] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[12:49] <theine> eatnumber1: no
[12:49] <riddlebox> bimberi, thanks anyway :)
[12:50] <eatnumber1> theine: i'll do that, thx
[12:50] <LjL> chuckyp: i'd go for ubuntu anytime on a desktop. i do use debian too on my server
[12:50] <dli> chuckyp, I don't see how ubuntu should be slower than debian :)
[12:50] <paul_> LjL: what's the difference between update and dist-upgrade?
[12:50] <bimberi> riddlebox: np :)
[12:50] <chuckyp> dli, it is slower
[12:50] <Sir_quicken> you ppl useless
[12:50] <LjL> paul_: update fetches the list of packages (including any changes). dist-upgrade actually installs the new versions
[12:50] <riddlebox> bimberi, the script, is a cool one, it is for asterisk and it is a wakeup call app
[12:50] <chuckyp> I have no idea why but ubuntu is slower than a debian install on the same hardware.  Fedora is even worse.
[12:50] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok ive shut everything except xchat
[12:50] <dli> chuckyp, even gentoo doesn't run faster
[12:50] <theine> eatnumber1: np
[12:50] <nalioth> chuckyp: you may troll in #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't mind
[12:51] <rob__> wesnoth seems to disable my key commands that allow me to switch workspaces while keeping the game running.  Any ideas on how to get around this?
[12:51] <chuckyp> nalioth, i'm not trolling i'm asking a question of ubuntu users preferences.
[12:51] <bimberi> riddlebox: sounds cool, you're ready to run a hotel now! :)
[12:51] <cwillu_> chucky, have you checked that everything is installed using the right drivers, etc?
[12:51] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, open another terminal
[12:51] <jon_> rob__ disable the wesnoth keyhits?
[12:51] <nalioth> chuckyp: the way you are asking looks like you are trolling to me
[12:51] <heyjoe2> nickrud: yep
[12:51] <jon_> rob__ or at least the one that prevents you from switching workstations.
[12:51] <jon_> rob__ Change that in game to something else.. or not
[12:52] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:52] <jon_> rob__ *nothing*
[12:52] <riddlebox> bimberi, I always have people sleeping over and they want me to set an alarm for them, now they can call in from their cell phone and do it themselves
[12:52] <paul_> Ljl: ssh server just installed cleanly, thankyou very much for your help :D
[12:52] <LjL> paul_: you're welcome
[12:52] <ompaul> chuckyp, no you started with kernel differences then you go for speed and now you engage anyone that talks .... sorry I agree with nalioth
[12:52] <chuckyp> cwillu_, yes.  I'm most likely just going to go with ubuntu.  Just for playing cs etc...
[12:52] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:52] <ubotu> from memory, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:52] <heyjoe2> nickrud: again, an fstab window opens and (gedit:10513): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:52] <heyjoe2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:53] <rob__> jon_: thanks but I tried simply changing the commands, wesnoth seems to disable most of the metakey configuration (only really important stuff like ctr+alt+backspace seem to work)
[12:53] <nickrud> heyjoe2: that's ok. Now I understand what you were saying, those errors occur *before* authentication finally goes through
[12:53] <Toran> dli: Hmm. Should "init=/bin/sh" be the only thing in the line?
[12:53] <jon_> rob__, Changing the commands that wesnoth uses in game you mean?
[12:53] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, add to the bottom of the fstab file, exactly:
[12:54] <marco__> hi... someone knows where i can find more objects for dia-gnome?
[12:54] <jon_> rob__, If so, then that's my only solution =\
[12:54] <nickrud> /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0
[12:54] <wig> http://www.drug-lords.com/index/signup/5
[12:54] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ^^^
[12:54] <bimberi> riddlebox: ah now that does sound cool :)
[12:54] <rob__> jon_: wesnoth doesnt use these commands at all as far as I can tell:  thats cool thanks for the input jon_, I'll try looking for some wesnoth forums
[12:54] <dli> Toran, "kernel /vmlinuz-blah init=/bin/sh"
[12:55] <heyjoe2> but now im not getting the frank@ubuntu thing
[12:55] <dli> Toran, or ubuntu uses, "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-blah"
[12:55] <Toran> It kernel panicked when I added the init in there
[12:55] <nickrud> heyjoe2: paste what you have in the gedit window to pastebin
[12:55] <Toran> Hmm, I'll try taking everything out and putting that in
[12:55] <heyjoe2> nickrud: the gedit window is blank
[12:55] <dli> Toran, sorry, my fault, ubunut uses initrd by default
[12:55] <FLSimpsonKPT> how can I install GCC?
[12:56] <aeolist> FLSimpsonKPT, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:56] <nickrud> heyjoe2: then, you did something wrong. Close that window
[12:56] <nickrud> heyjoe2: the gedit window
[12:56] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[12:56] <FLSimpsonKPT> aeolist: I have a 64bit version. Will it still work?
[12:56] <nickrud> heyjoe2: you only have xchat and the terminal open, right?
[12:56] <nalioth> FLSimpsonKPT: install "build-essential"
[12:56] <aeolist> FLSimpsonKPT, i think so,
[12:56] <heyjoe2> hang on a second
[12:57] <FLSimpsonKPT> aeolist: k
[12:57] <olti> hey guys, I have a problem with Ubuntu freezing when logging in as a regular user with Gnome.. I just installed Kopete, and did a restart.. so now I can't log in unless it is "secure Gnome" any suggestions?
[12:57] <juchipilo> hello,  has anyone connected to Oracle  from Ubuntu?
[12:57] <heyjoe2> nickrud: yes just xchat and terminal
[12:57] <olti> It freezes on Metacity windowmanager loading
[12:57] <chuckyp> olti, kopete over gaim?
[12:57] <heyjoe2> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/588007
[12:58] <olti> yes chuckyp
[12:58] <nickrud> heyjoe2: I see. ok, In the terminal, type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:58] <chuckyp> Alright I currently have dualboot xp and fedora core 4, Going to install ubuntu 5.10 over the fedora installation just wondering if anyone forsees any problems?
[12:58] <heyjoe2> nickrud: (gedit:10646): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:58] <heyjoe2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:59] <nickrud> heyjoe2: but, the gedit window opened, right?
[12:59] <heyjoe2> nickrud: and fstab-gedit opened
[12:59] <theine> heyjoe2: just do: echo /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0 | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[12:59] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, in the fstab-gedit window  type, exactly /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0
[12:59] <heyjoe2> theine: do i type that in the gedit window, or in terminal?
[12:59] <samwh> terminal
[12:59] <nickrud> see how it matches the other lines?
[01:00] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, you can hit alt+f2 to bring up a command window and type it there or in terminal.
[01:00] <heyjoe2> nickrud:i typed /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0 in the fstab window. now what?
[01:00] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, paste that window to pastebin, so I can see it
[01:01] <heyjoe2> nickrud: nothing happens
[01:01] <FLSimpsonKPT> aeolist: ok it worked thank you
[01:01] <nickrud> heyjoe2: nothing should. /etc/fstab is a configuration file (you'll hear a *lot* about them). We edit it, save it, and reuse it over and over
[01:01] <theine> heyjoe2: what's the problem you're trying to solve by the way?
[01:01] <heyjoe2> nickrud: should i save fstab?
[01:02] <nickrud> heyjoe2: not yet. Paste it
[01:02] <heyjoe2> /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0
[01:02] <heyjoe2> thats all thats in the fstab
[01:02] <theine> oh god...
[01:02] <nickrud> heyjoe2: that cannot be right.
[01:02] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[01:02] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, there should be more in there than that.  You aren't editing the right fstab.
[01:03] <theine> heyjoe2: did you issue the command i suggested by any chance?
[01:03] <heyjoe2> nickrud: when the fstab opened it was completely blank and u asked me to paste /dev/sda /media/usb-stick auto rw,noauto,user 0 0
[01:03] <heyjoe2> thats all ive done
[01:03] <nickrud> heyjoe2: doh.
[01:03] <LjL> nickrud: i saw him saying he did "gksudo gedit fstab" somewhat earlier. i guess there should have been an /etc there, unless you had him cd to /etc?
[01:04] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok, what have i done wrong
[01:04] <nickrud> heyjoe2: LjL boy, did I screw up. (but recoverable 
[01:04] <LjL> heh
[01:05] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type sudo cp /etc/fstab-before-usb-stick /etc/fstab
[01:05] <heyjoe2> nickrud: just to confirm, in the terminal right
[01:05] <shiv> how do I uninstall gnome and just keep kde? what is the command?
[01:05] <nickrud> heyjoe2: yes. but close gedit first
[01:05] <samwh> apt-get remove gnome?
[01:05] <DJ_tobias> anybody in here using a wireless card?
[01:05] <dli> DJ_tobias, I use ipw2200
[01:05] <LjL> shiv: not that easy. i usually recommend "sudo apt-get remove libgnome2-0", but i couldn't swear on it being the best thing
[01:05] <chuckyp> Alright I currently have dualboot xp and fedora core 4, Going to install ubuntu 5.10 over the fedora installation just wondering if anyone forsees any problems?
[01:05] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok ive done that
[01:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell shiv about removegnome
[01:05] <LjL> samwh: will that remove all the dependencies?
[01:06] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:06] <DJ_tobias> dli do you need ndiswrapper to get that working?
[01:06] <dli> DJ_tobias, no, ipw2200 is in kernel
[01:06] <heyjoe2> nickrud: the same message comes up in terminal and a blank fstab
[01:06] <brenner> chuckyp: possible problem: fedroa's bootloader
[01:06] <DJ_tobias> dli cool what card is that?
[01:06] <nickrud> heyjoe2: close gedit
[01:06] <theine> heyjoe2: what's that message again?
[01:06] <chuckyp> brenner, I believe its using lilo
[01:07] <heyjoe2> nickrud, theine: (gedit:10753): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:07] <heyjoe2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:07] <nickrud> theine: I had him mv instead of cp his old fstab
[01:07] <dli> DJ_tobias, Intel PRO/Wireless
[01:07] <brenner> chuckyp: is it insatlled on the MBR?
[01:07] <chuckyp> brenner, wondering if ubuntu will have a problem removing lilo and installing grub
[01:07] <Soviet-Toast> when i log into dyndns... my firefox just closes! its really gay!
[01:07] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ignore that error from here on out, ok?
[01:07] <theine> what's up with that error message anyway?
[01:07] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[01:07] <brenner> chuckyp: that's exactly what i was pointing out
[01:07] <nickrud> theine: normal
[01:07] <chuckyp> brenner, it uses grub nevermind
[01:07] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type ls /etc/fstab*
[01:08] <brenner> heh, ok.
[01:08] <LjL> bimberi: bah... that forum thread doesn't even mention that by using aptitude one could have avoided all that hassle, and just uninstalled ubuntu-desktop ;(
[01:08] <nickrud> heyjoe2: you should have two files, right?
[01:08] <DJ_tobias> dli do they sell that at compusa ?
[01:08] <theine> nickrud: why don't I get it then?
[01:08] <heyjoe2> nickrud: frank@ubuntu:~$ ls /etc/fstab*
[01:08] <chuckyp> brenner, how well do you think the ubuntu cd will do with out hopefully destroying my xp partition the wife would kill me.
[01:08] <heyjoe2> /etc/fstab  /etc/fstab-before-usb-stick
[01:08] <heyjoe2> frank@ubuntu:~$
[01:08] <nickrud> theine: it's an error that's been around for ever, using (gk)sudo with a gtk app
[01:08] <dli> DJ_tobias, it's mini-pci, I think so, about $30 each, and with most pentium-M laptops
[01:08] <theine> nickrud: how about "sudo gedit ..."?
[01:08] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type sudo cp  /etc/fstab-before-usb-stick /etc/fstab
[01:09] <nickrud> theine: same, I've been seeing it for years
[01:09] <LjL> nickrud: ... and one would guess *gk*sudo would work with gtk apps.
[01:09] <dli> DJ_tobias, ipw2200 is the easiest for me, driver in kernel, but it needs a firmware :( I don't like that
[01:09] <heyjoe2> nickrud: done
[01:09] <brenner> chuckyp: you'll be fine.  but you know how it goes already just in case: backup important stuff
[01:09] <DJ_tobias> hmm dli is there a list of wireless cards that are compatible with linux and DONT need ndiswrapper
[01:09] <nickrud> LjL: I still haven't really understood why gksudo is better than sudo, I just take it on faith
[01:09] <bimberi> LjL: yeah i know, but the ubuntu installer doesn't use aptitude
[01:09] <IdleOne> evening folks! im installing Sun Java and just got a large ammount of "permission denied" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9800 . now what?
[01:09] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:09] <dli> DJ_tobias, I suppose the good place to check is in kernel source, "make menuconfig"
[01:09] <LjL> nickrud: me to. actually, i just use sudo :) but then again, i use KDE, but i guess the same could be said for kdesu or whate'er it's caller
[01:10] <brenner> chuckyp: i've never had any problems with data loss with about 5 dualboot setups (they even included resizing)
[01:10] <heyjoe2> nickrud: same error message, same blank fstab
[01:10] <webstuff> anyone want to help a newbie to get screensize 1280*1024??
[01:10] <dli> DJ_tobias, you may go with ipw, because intel does release drivers for it
[01:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell webstuff about fixres
[01:10] <iBalo> !fixres
[01:10] <theine> IdleOne: that's ok, don't worry about it
[01:10] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:10] <LjL> bimberi: no it doesn't indeed, but that forum article starts "you installed ubuntu-desktop because you wanted to try the Gnome experience? then..."
[01:10] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type cat /etc/fstab--before-usb-stick
[01:10] <nickrud> do you get anything?
[01:10] <nickrud> heyjoe2: type cat /etc/fstab-before-usb-stick <--- sorry
[01:10] <bimberi> LjL: ah, fair enough :)
[01:11] <chuckyp> brenner, Yeah mainly just wondering how good they've gotten witht he installers.
[01:11] <IdleOne> theine>  I didnt worry about it last night and continued with the install as per wiki but java is working
[01:11] <heyjoe2> should i close the terminal
[01:11] <theine> IdleOne: wait a minute... maybe not. which command led to that message?
[01:11] <DJ_tobias> dli so when you plug the card in does it automatically detect it?
[01:11] <webstuff> thanks a lot :)
[01:11] <heyjoe2> nickrud: again im not getting a frank@ubuntu
[01:11] <webstuff> #ubitu
[01:11] <usr> does this work for anyone ??? http://212.36.206.105:6667/archive/music/
[01:11] <IdleOne> theine>  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[01:11] <nickrud> heyjoe2: you will only get frank@ubuntu in a terminal.
[01:11] <dli> DJ_tobias, yes, most installation disk should drive it up
[01:11] <heyjoe2> nickrud: its not happening in this terminal?
[01:12] <theine> IdleOne: ah, ok, don't worry then...
[01:12] <heyjoe2> nickrud: should i open another
[01:12] <brenner> chuckyp: you'll be fine.  feel free to blame me though if things go wrong. :)
[01:12] <nickrud> heyjoe2: no, because that terminal is currently running a program (gedit). Opening another terminal is just what experts would do
[01:12] <IdleOne> theine>  ok ill try the install again but if it doesnt work again im blamming you :P
[01:12] <theine> IdleOne: did you mean "... but java *isn't* working"?
[01:12] <IdleOne> yeah isnt
[01:12] <dli> DJ_tobias, ipw2200 has been working as a package for long, but only in kernel >=2.6.14
[01:12] <theine> IdleOne: i see
[01:13] <heyjoe2> nickrud: whenever i get that error message the gnomeui warning, i lose my franke@ubuntu
[01:13] <nickrud> heyjoe2: lets try another method
[01:13] <dli> DJ_tobias, you can buy from newegg.com , or compUSA
[01:13] <nickrud> heyjoe2: no, you don't *loose* it, you don't get it back because the terminal is busy. It's running gedit
[01:13] <heyjoe2> ok
[01:13] <DJ_tobias> dli ok thanks
[01:13] <IdleOne> theine>  right now it's buidling package sun-j2re1.5' in `/tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXfcN99v/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb'.
[01:13] <nickrud> heyjoe2: lets try another method
[01:14] <nickrud> close everything but xchat
[01:14] <heyjoe2> nickrud: ok
[01:14] <dli> DJ_tobias, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2050410031+50001157&Subcategory=31&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ATTR1=&ATTR2=2050410031+50001157&ATTR3=&ATTR4=&ATTR5=&ATTR6=
[01:14] <theine> IdleOne: permission denied errors are normal when using "fakeroot make-jpkg ...", but maybe not so many...
[01:15] <chuckyp> brenner, i'm nto really that worried but i've never tried to replace one linux distro with another on a dualboot setup.
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell theine about javadebs
[01:15] <heyjoe2> nickrud: everything closed
[01:15] <DJ_tobias> dli oh its only for notebooks?
[01:15] !lilo:*! Update to http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml .... added http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml#messages and moved some important items up near the top.... the old version should be available on http://web.archive.org/web/20050203201221/http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
[01:15] <woolbeo> How do I temporarily disable bootsplash?
[01:16] <dli> DJ_tobias, sorry, I thought you mean notebook :(
[01:16] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, open a terminal, then type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab-before-usb-stick
[01:16] <brenner> woolbeo: bootsplash = usplash?
[01:16] <heyjoe2> nickrud: done that and the usual happens
[01:17] <DJ_tobias> dli Ah its cool! i appreciate the help, would you know of any desktop wireless cards that are compitable without using ndiswrapper?
[01:17] <nickrud> heyjoe2: perfect. now, you cannot do anything in that terminal till gedit is closed. (just for your information)
[01:17] <heyjoe2> ok
[01:17] <nickrud> heyjoe2: now, open firefox, and paste the contents of the gedit window to pastebin
[01:17] <IdleOne> nalioth> I should try the javadebs is what you saying?
[01:17] <Munchkinguy> Anyone know how to set up the sound card in the console?
[01:17] <heyjoe2> nickrud: the gedit window is, as ever, completely blank
[01:17] !lilo:*! Whoops, reload.
[01:18] <dli> DJ_tobias, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/nic.html
[01:18] <nalioth> IdleOne: they are an easy (and safe) way to get java
[01:18] <nickrud> heyjoe2: that cannot be right. you have not edited it at all
[01:18] <DJ_tobias> are those wireless dli?
[01:18] <BlackHand> nalioth: easyubuntu
[01:18] <heyjoe2> nickrud: i havent touched it
[01:19] <nalioth> BlackHand: what about it?
[01:19] <woolbeo> brenner, yeah
[01:20] <BlackHand> nalioth: easy and safe way to put java in your ubuntu box
[01:20] <nickrud> heyjoe2: ok, let me pm you. We seem to have problems
[01:20] <dli> DJ_tobias, try #hardware, since I don't know for sure myself
[01:20] <brenner> chuckyp: well what you need to is (might want to write this down): select "manually edit partition table" when prompted, then just delete the fedora partitions.  you'll then have free space along with your untouched ntfs partition.  highlight the free space and press enter.  you can then setup your partitions manually or select "automatically partition" to make the installer take care of it for you
[01:20] <brenner> chuckyp: by default it will give you a / and a swap partition
[01:20] <nalioth> BlackHand: psst, i'm a dev on the easyubuntu team, the java debs are easier
[01:21] <IdleOne> nalioth>  :)
[01:21] <brenner> woolbeo: whn grub boots, press 'e' to edit the boot config.  you need to remove 'splash' from the kernel line
[01:21] <woolbeo> brenner, thanx, I knew it was something simple...
[01:21] <nalioth> IdleOne: you are welcome to use easybuntu, tho
[01:22] <brenner> woolbeo: np
[01:22] <nickrud> heyjoe2:
[01:23] <heyjoe2> nickrud: i get a messag in the ubuntu servers about private messaging
[01:23] <DJ_tobias> who else here uses a wireless nic and doesnt need ndiswrapper?
[01:23] <jadacyrus> me
[01:23] <SD> hi all. quick question: in system->preferences->preferred applications or in short cuts what do the "%u"s or the "%s"s mean?
[01:23] <jadacyrus> rt2500
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> DJ_tobias: rl2500
[01:24] <Munchkinguy> I have one question and one trouble.
[01:24] <Munchkinguy> My question is: How do I set up my sound card in the console
[01:24] <DJ_tobias> h3sp4wn what card is that?
[01:25] <Munchkinguy> My problem is: Upon trying to mount my floppy drive in the File Manager, I get the message : "mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"
[01:25] <ruzgar> how can i install mono to my system
[01:25] <LjL> ruzgar: aptitude install mono
[01:25] <IdleOne> nalioth>  Im happy with Breezy
[01:25] <nalioth> IdleOne: cool.  :)
[01:26] <engla> How do I install maxima in breezy?? wxmaxima depends on libgmp3, but in the reps is libgmp3c2... can this be resolved?
[01:26] <LjL> engla: not the first time i see that kind of broken dep, let me try
[01:26] <jadacyrus> munchkinguy: check your fstab
[01:26] <LjL> engla: but, not, it installs for me
[01:26] <ubuntu_> salut
[01:27] <LjL> !fr
[01:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:27] <LjL> engla: ah no sorry i tried installing maxima instead of wxmaxima
[01:27] <jadacyrus> anyone know a good webcam program? for taking pictures and video?
[01:27] <LjL> engla: ... which still works, though.
[01:27] <ruzgar> how can i make my configuration backup
[01:28] <ruzgar> whicn folders have i backup
[01:28] <engla> LjL: which version is that?
[01:28] <LjL> engla: my "maxima" package depends on libgmp3c2
[01:28] <LjL> engla: 5.9.1-9build1
[01:28] <engla> LjL: I suspect backports messed this up.. hmm
[01:28] <LjL> engla: hmm no, i have backports too
[01:29] <LjL> engla: this one comes from http://it.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe
[01:29] <engla> LjL: ppc bgu then?
[01:29] <engla> *bug
[01:29] <wotnarg> What is the package name with the x includes in it?
[01:29] <LjL> engla: could be, i'm using i386
[01:29] <LjL> wotnarg: x-window-system-dev
[01:29] <DoTheRodeo> how do you untar .tar again, tar xzf blah.tar ?
[01:29] <wotnarg> LjL: thanks
[01:30] <brenner> DoTheRodeo: that's if it's gzipped
[01:30] <DoTheRodeo> im talkin about just .tar
[01:30] <DoTheRodeo> how do you untar it
[01:30] <brenner> DoTheRodeo: tar xf then
[01:30] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: tar -x -f blah
[01:30] <DoTheRodeo> not gz though
[01:30] <DoTheRodeo> ic
[01:31] <engla> LjL: checked packages.ubuntu.com. It's apparently a ppc-specific problem!
[01:31] <wotnarg> LjL: What repository is that? Says no package named that.
[01:31] <Thedonn> Is it possible to install X with the "SERVER" installation?
[01:31] <IdleOne> nalioth>  umm I need to add the deb link to my sources.list right and then what command do I use to get java?
[01:31] <LjL> engla: hm, just rebuild the package and change the dependency :)
[01:31] <LjL> engla: (and file a bug, if it's not already there)
[01:31] <DoTheRodeo> its tar -xvf
[01:31] <DoTheRodeo> lol
[01:32] <nalioth> IdleOne: just direct download the deb
[01:32] <DJ_tobias> h3sp4wn what card is that?
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about javadebs
[01:32] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: the -v just makes it verbose. it works without
[01:32] <Teleios> hello
[01:32] <engla> LjL: for some reason, only 5.9.1-7 is available for ppc, must be a forgotten package or build that didn't work :-(
[01:33] <Thedonn> anyone ^^?
[01:33] <LjL> engla: well, i still suggest just rebuilding it after changing the dependency. i'm sure it won't go mad because of libgmp being version 4ac2beta instead of something
[01:33] <Thedonn> Is it possible to install X with the "SERVER" installation?
[01:34] <engla> LjL: How do I do that then?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> any pointers 4 a newb?
[01:34] <wotnarg> Thedonn: Yes. You can install anything with any installation.
[01:34] <LjL> thenuke: yes. sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[01:34] <engla> LjL: You don't mean build from source?
[01:34] <LjL> ubuntu_: general pointers you mean? try https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <LjL> engla: yes i do. but i don't mean getting the source from the maxima site, i mean getting the ubuntu source package
[01:35] <engla> LjL: Okay, I'll try that. With apt-get though, since I know how to use that ;-), so pulling "source maxima" and build-dep the same
[01:35] <LjL> engla: not sure build-dep will work, it'll probably try getting the wrong version of libgmp
[01:35] <Teleios> not to interrupt but does ubuntu or variant os set up with dial-up internet well?
[01:35] <LjL> engla: but yeah, basically that's the idea.
[01:35] <Thedonn> wotnarg, I want to have a server installation, but want to be able to config it with X windows, is this a choice in the installation of "SERVER"?
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> DJ_tobias: Cheap MSI - the only do one
[01:36] <DoTheRodeo> but how come it only untar'ed 1 file?
[01:36] <bimberi> Thedonn: no, but you can install X after the server install finishes
[01:36] <k31th> wat is ubuntu compilied as? i686
[01:36] <k31th> seems a bt slugish at times ?
[01:36] <wotnarg> Thedonn: What DoTheRodeo said ;)
[01:37] <Thedonn> bimberi || wotnarg , How would I go about doing that?
[01:37] <wotnarg> Thedonn: install, then do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[01:37] <k31th> having used gentoo and ubuntu you can see the pros and cons of both source and pre compiled packages
[01:37] <brenner> Teleios: depends on your modem.  particularly if it's a winmodem
[01:38] <Teleios> well, fortunately I do not suffer from dial-up, but I'm contemplating setting my grandma up with ubuntu instead of windows
[01:38] <Thedonn> wotnarg, I assume that I will still be able to config net connections through X etc? Is it alot more difficult to administer?
[01:38] <roaet> how does one defrag in ubuntu?
[01:38] <k31th> you guys all mainly use gnome?
[01:39] <chuckyp> roaet, you don't need to defrag
[01:39] <IdleOne> nalioth>  java is still not working
[01:39] <chuckyp> k31th, I use kde
[01:39] <k31th> lol u doont need to defrag
[01:39] <Teleios> so for dial-up compatibility what would one need?  what does a winmodem specifically denote?
[01:40] <Thedonn> wotnarg, ?
[01:40] <wotnarg> Thedonn: Net connections through X? Do you mean forwarding X, or just using a configuration program that runs on X?
[01:40] <k31th> chuckyp: did you use kubuntu or just install kde-desktop from a minial install ?
[01:40] <roaet> k31th: chuckyp: I have a fat32 partition. It, by nature, needs to be defragged.
[01:40] <Thedonn> wotnarg, config app...
[01:40] <brenner> Teleios: is this a desktop or a laptop?  is the modem onboard, internal or external?
[01:40] <IdleOne> roaet>  not in linux
[01:40] <pder> is it possible to enter data into a computer using a keyboard?
[01:40] <roaet> IdleOne: weird.
[01:40] <LjL> IdleOne: ...?
[01:40] <IdleOne> roaet>  not weird .. better! linux that is
[01:41] <roaet> k31th: chuckyp: IdleOne: thank you.
[01:41] <chuckyp> k31th, I'm downloading ubuntu now but i'm thinking of cancelling that and downloading kubuntu.  didn't even pay attention.
[01:41] <Teleios> brenner: destop (gateway :bleh:) with internal 56k modem
[01:41] <Teleios> as far as I know
[01:41] <Thedonn> wotnarg, System->admin->Networking, Im assuming it just strips out things like GIMP, XOffice & user apps etc
[01:41] <brenner> roaet: you need to defrag it through windows
[01:41] <nalioth> IdleOne: which java deb did you use?
[01:41] <wotnarg> Thedonn: if you install X, then yea, you can use those programs. If not, you need to use the command line, which is strange to get used to, but easy enoug once you do.
[01:41] <IdleOne> nalioth>  right now Im not even sure
[01:41] <roaet> brenner: that is assuming that it gets fragmented correct?
[01:41] <nalioth> IdleOne: one must make sure which version of java we d/l
[01:41] <wotnarg> Thedonn: You'll need to install every program that uses X  by hand if you start with server and just get X, unless you want the whole desktop.
[01:42] <shiv> I have both kde and gnome installed on ubuntu on one machine. I want to remove gnome. How do I do that? What command?
[01:42] <nalioth> roaet: fragmentation?
[01:42] <IdleOne> nalioth>  j2se1.5 update 6
[01:42] <k31th> apt-get remove gnome? or gnome-desktop ?
[01:42] <roaet> nalioth: of my fat32 partition
[01:42] <chuckyp> k31th, ahh i'll probably just use apt to get kde
[01:42] <brenner> roaet: it's fat.  i assume it does, yeah.
[01:42] <nalioth> roaet: ah, yes, good ol' MS fragmenation
[01:43] <k31th> chuckyp: its apt-get install kde-desktop
[01:43] <Thedonn> wotnarg, I want to use it as a webserver/torrents/ssh tunneling..thats all really, would you recommend dektop or server for those reasons?
[01:43] <k31th> iirc
[01:43] <chuckyp> k31th, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I thought
[01:43] <k31th> Thedonn: desktop...
[01:43] <XiCillin> i got this error "Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h" when running ./configure what is it that i need?
[01:43] <XiCillin> or where can i find it
[01:43] <k31th> chuckyp:  your right it is
[01:43] <roaet> brenner: I have to defrag in windows you say?
[01:43] <wotnarg> Thedonn: If you don't want to muck around alot, just install a regular kubuntu/ubuntu install, and then don't start X/GNOME/KDE unless you need to.
[01:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell shiv about removegnome
[01:43] <Thedonn> k31th, may I ask why?
[01:43] <Teleios> brenner: destop (gateway *bleh*) with internal 56k modem
[01:44] <wotnarg> Thedonn: Thats just my advice though :)
[01:44] <k31th> Thedonn: define a server to me
[01:44] <Installer36> K31th if you apt-get  remove Gnome wont that leave some behind
[01:44] <brenner> Teleios: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Winmodems-and-Linux-HOWTO-1.html
[01:44] <k31th> Installer36: possibly
[01:44] <chuckyp> apt-get remove gnome is not a good idea
[01:44] <Teleios> brenner: much appreciated ^_^
[01:44] <Kr4t05> Installer36: Add a '*' after gnome
[01:44] <k31th> cant u just leave both on there?
[01:44] <brenner> Teleios: it's just info.  hang on.  looking for more.
[01:44] <chuckyp> because if you are using gtk apps in kde you will have problems.
[01:45] <Kr4t05> Installer36: That will remove the dependancies, too.
[01:45] <Thedonn> k31th, SERVER: A server in a restaurant is an employee that takes orders and serves food to clients; see Waiter.
[01:45] <Viper_0> Hi! Can anyone help me!? I have installed Ubuntu in a Hard disk, but now i want to make this HD as a USB Hard Drive and put another disk to boot only to Ubuntu, and then execute the "rest" from the USB HD , Can I do this?
[01:46] <Kr4t05> Viper_O, WHY?!
[01:46] <shiv> bimberi: thats a good link but does not say about removing gnome and keeping desktop...
[01:46] <brenner> Teleios: actually. this would be better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[01:46] <Munchkinguy> How do I set up my sound card in the console?
[01:47] <bimberi> shiv: what do you mean 'keeping desktop'?
[01:47] <Teleios> brenner: rawr I searched dial-up there instead of dialup before I came, that figures
[01:47] <Installer36> Will purge remove dependincies or is that what the * stands for
[01:47] <Seveas> Installer36, no
[01:47] <Seveas> it will remove config files
[01:47] <bimberi> Installer36: purge removes config files
[01:47] <Teleios> brenner: that's exactly what I've been looking for, thank you very much
[01:47] <Viper_0> because i want to take the HD wherever a go, if needed
[01:47] <Installer36> Thanks
[01:48] <brenner> Teleios: welcome.  good luck
[01:48] <Fracture> is it possible to get X to remember where windows were when I last started an app, so that when the app restarts, the window is in the same position ?
[01:48] <chuckyp> k31th, yeah i'm most likely going to install kubuntu later since i'm at 90% on the image anyways
[01:48] <ryan_ishere> ok guys im back with a new problem
[01:48] <shiv> bimberi: I need to keep my kde and remove gnome. Both of them are on one machine. gnome is buggy now and won't start. After login the screen starts blinking panels won't load fully
[01:49] <brenner> Fracture: i want that feature too.  it seems to work for some apps (e.g. gnome-terminal)  but not others (e.g. firefox)
[01:49] <ryan_ishere> i installed a new video card in my computer and i have windows xp on it as well as ubuntu
[01:49] <Munchkinguy> uh oh
[01:49] <ryan_ishere> in windows it works fine but the ubuntu wont load up unless i put the old card back in
[01:49] <ryan_ishere> the graphical interface wont start up
[01:49] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, that's because your xorg file isold.
[01:50] <chuckyp> shiv, why do you want to remove gnome?  to save 10mb or so?
[01:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, You need to run dpkg --reconfigure xserver/xorg in console with the new card it
[01:50] <FunnyLookinHat> *in
[01:50] <ryan_ishere> i dont know what any of that means
[01:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, Ok, so when you boot your computer up, you have a text only screen, right?
[01:50] <shiv> no as I said it starts blinking violently when I login to gnome. Kde works fine
[01:50] <Viper_0> can i copy the '/boot to the new disk, and boot up from there?
[01:50] <bimberi> shiv: well those instructions should leave kde (kubuntu-desktop?) alone (although i've not used them to know this for sure)
[01:50] <ryan_ishere> yes
[01:50] <Fracture> brenner: yeah, and its even worse when using dual screens, since sometimes when you logn the app starts on the left screen, sometimes on the right.  damn anoying
[01:50] <AngryElf> how do i view system email?
[01:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, login with your username and password at the prompt
[01:51] <ryan_ishere> ok i tried that
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> and you will have a console..  like, a DOS interface
[01:51] <ryan_ishere> right
[01:51] <ryan_ishere> i did
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, then you type the following command
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver/xorg"
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> without the quotes
[01:51] <brenner> isn't it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:51] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: I was wondering if you could help me with two hardware troubles.
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry, brenner is right
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> xserver-xorg
[01:51] <FunnyLookinHat> brenner, thanks!
[01:52] <brenner> ryan_ishere: what card is it?  b/c you have to chose the driver when you run that script
[01:52] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, what seems to be your problem?
[01:52] <asterisk99> has anyone noticed that on some machines, ubunto keep sthe disk activity light burning 7X24 ... it does that on both my Dell Dimension and Shuttle SB86
[01:52] <Munchkinguy> #1: How do I set up my sound card in the console?
[01:52] <brenner> Fracture: have you hit the forum?
[01:52] <ryan_ishere> its a radeon 9600 SE
[01:52] <Angel_Dex>  Could not grab your mouse.
[01:52] <Angel_Dex>  A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[01:52] <Angel_Dex>  on your session.
[01:52] <Angel_Dex>  what does thismean
[01:52] <Fracture> brenner: no, just thought i'd ask here
[01:53] <chuckyp> Munchkinguy, if you are using alsa maybe alsa-conf or something
[01:53] <karrigan> hola!
[01:53] <FunnyLookinHat> asterisk99, some other people have noted that... I've heard rumors of a fix with 6.04
[01:53] <bdash__> can anyone help me with a sound issue?
[01:53] <brenner> ryan_ishere: choose the 'vesa' driver when given a list of options.  someone can help you set up the ati drivers after you get a gui up and running
[01:53] <asterisk99> FunnyLookinHat: 6.04? When will that be released?
[01:53] <redguy> Angel_Dex: is that a haiku?
[01:53] <ryan_ishere> and the gui is a graphical interface correct?
[01:53] <Angel_Dex> redguy i tryed starting synaptic and i got taht msg
[01:53] <FunnyLookinHat> asterisk99, april.
[01:54] <brenner> ryan_ishere: yes
[01:54] <coz> have dapper and did the xgl/compiz thing it was fun however
[01:54] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: My second problem involves attempting to mount my floppy drive
[01:54] <FunnyLookinHat> asterisk99, my guess is that it is related to gnome which is updated in 6.04
[01:54] <ryan_ishere> ok i have one last question before i go
[01:54] <ryan_ishere> i have ubuntu and windows on seperate partitions
[01:54] <coz> I wanted to do nvidia-glx-config enable and ti tells me that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not on sysytem but it is
[01:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, how ar eyou trying to mount it
[01:54] <coz> anyway to get this to re recognize the xorg without reinstallation?
[01:54] <asterisk99> FunnyLookinHat: Kinardly wait ... it'll be nice not having everone tell me there's someting wrong with these machines ;^)
[01:55] <ryan_ishere> basically to run the internet on ubuntu and word processing
[01:55] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: I type "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" in the console
[01:55] <ryan_ishere> is that necessary
[01:55] <brenner> coz: #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion if you need it
[01:55] <FunnyLookinHat> asterisk99, hahaha, yea I can't wait either
[01:55] <bdash__> why can i only have one programme putting out sound at a time?
[01:55] <Viper_0> Kr4t05, because i want to take the HD wherever a go , I have i 80GB ( with 2 partitions (10GB - Ubuntu /70 - NTFS ) ) and i have another 2GB HD , I want to put the 80Gb in a Hard Disk Case 3.5" USB , and I want to make the 2GB only to Boot up, and the rest ( '/ , '/home ... ) and want to put int the 80Gb
[01:55] <coz> brenner thanks i will try it
[01:55] <Munchkinguy> But I get the message "special device /dev/fd0 does not exist"
[01:55] <ryan_ishere> cause if not should i just uninstall ubuntu
[01:56] <brenner> coz: there's also a dedicated forum section on ubuntuforums.org
[01:56] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, very strange.  try going to /dev and typing ls ?
[01:56] <mikex> need help connecting from ubuntu to xp which is running tight vnc.
[01:56] <Munchkinguy> ok
[01:56] <Munchkinguy> done
[01:57] <Munchkinguy> now what?
[01:57] <ryan_ishere> ok well i guess ill just try this out then
[01:57] <brenner> ryan_ishere: what's necessary? i don't understand
[01:57] <ryan_ishere> thanks brenner  and funny
[01:57] <ryan_ishere> i mean
[01:57] <ryan_ishere> i have windows xp
[01:57] <ryan_ishere> and ubuntu on the same comp
[01:57] <brenner> right
[01:57] <Tarster> Hey could u guys help me any?
[01:57] <LjL> !tell ryan_ishere about enter
[01:58] <LjL> !tell Tarster about helpme
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[01:58] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:58] <Tarster> i am looking to install wine under ubuntu
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> so i can use the windows for software.
[01:58] <Viper_0> I have a 80GB ( with 2 partitions (10GB - Ubuntu /70 - NTFS ) ) and I have another 2GB HD , I want to put the 80Gb in a Hard Disk Case 3.5" USB , and I want to make the 2GB only to Boot up, and the rest ( '/ , '/home ... ) want to put int the 80Gb, can i do this, without erase the prexistent ubuntu installation ?
[01:58] <LjL> !tell Tarster about wine
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> and ubuntu for internet
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> and word processing.
[01:58] <LjL> !enter
[01:58] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:58] <titov> is there a specific room for ubuntu ppc users?
[01:58] <Tarster> dumb bots
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> im confused.
[01:59] <ryan_ishere> i dont see anyone else using punctuation.
[01:59] <brenner> ryan_ishere: so what's the issue?
[01:59] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: I typed ls
[01:59] <ryan_ishere> is it necessary
[01:59] <ryan_ishere> is linux that much safer on the internet.
[01:59] <Xenguy> Tarster: the bot is smarter than half the people here :P
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, did it reveal and fd tpe devices?
[01:59] <LjL> Tarster: might be dumb, but it should have answered your question.
[01:59] <Tarster> lol
[01:59] <Munchkinguy> I found an fd folder
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> ryan_ishere, yes.
[01:59] <Munchkinguy> and a device called fb0
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, what is it (exactly?)
[01:59] <titov> any ubuntu ppc users here?
[01:59] <Tarster> ok nvm then i would come here.. geez no help and annoying ppl
[01:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, try mounting it with your previous command
[02:00] <brenner> ryan_ishere: well, there aren't any virsues as a start
[02:00] <ryan_ishere> thats what i thought
[02:00] <LjL> ryan_ishere: the bot is trying to tell you - well, i am trying to tell you - that you should not press enter every couple of word. make a complete sentence, and press enter, otherwise the channel gets flooded
[02:00] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: I get "/dev/fb0 is not a block device"
[02:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, oooh, fb.  I thought you said fd.
[02:00] <bdash__> why can i only have one programme putting out sound at a time?
[02:00] <redguy> sixtymhz: since you'ra asking about ubuntu in #debian, you can read about ubuntu's relationship with debian on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[02:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, does it show anything called fd*?  maybe just fd?  try mounting that (not fb, sorry)
[02:01] <ryan_ishere> so in short then it is worth it
[02:01] <Munchkinguy> I tried the fd as well, I get "/dev/fd is not a block device"
[02:01] <mikere> fd0 or fd1?
[02:01] <Munchkinguy> just fd
[02:02] <brenner> ubotu: tell bdash__ about sound
[02:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, ok.  Then I guess your floppy drive isn't showing up on the system at all
[02:02] <ryan_ishere> thanks for your help guys
[02:02] <maxkelley> !bind
[02:02] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxkelley
[02:02] <maxkelley> !bind9
[02:02] <brenner> bdash__: right at the bottom, the "More on Software Mixing" section
[02:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, hmm...  which is strange
[02:02] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxkelley
[02:02] <maxkelley> phaw, ubotu
[02:02] <brenner> bdash__: the bottom of the 1st wiki link that is
[02:03] <kandinski> I am trying to build a chroot for drake on a sarge machine, with command:
[02:03] <kandinski> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/drake
[02:03] <kandinski> actually, that is the error
[02:03] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: It shows up in the file manager
[02:03] <bdash__> brenner: Thanks.
[02:03] <kandinski> candyman@destroy:/chroots/drake$ sudo debootstrap --arch i386 drake . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:03] <kandinski> and this was the command
[02:04] <kandinski> is the solution just to download a drake script from ubuntu?
[02:04] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, right click it and see what the device name is under properties?
[02:05] <zF> How do I remove network places I've added?
[02:05] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, right click and select unmount volume
[02:05] <brenner> bdash__: if that doesn't help.  keep jumping back in here and ask crimsun
[02:06] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: device name is "Floppy 1"
[02:06] <bdash__> brenner__: will do. just trying it out now. :)
[02:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Munchkinguy, wow, what in the world.
[02:06] <Munchkinguy> Location is computer:///
[02:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone able to help Munchkinguy out?  his floppy seems to exist, but at the same time he can't mount it?
[02:07] <Munchkinguy> FunnyLookinHat: Forget it. I'm going to eat supper.
[02:08] <Munchkinguy> I'l try to get help later
[02:08] <zF> FunnyLookinHat, when I right click it tries to open it
[02:08] <aimaz> hi, I changed my monitor from a crt to an lcd, is it best to reconfigure xorg?
[02:08] <vanderley> Hi, how I install new themes?
[02:08] <aimaz> vanderley: for what?
[02:09] <vanderley> themes for DESKTOP
[02:09] <Xenguy> Munchkinguy: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt ; ls /mnt
[02:09] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, that's...  not right.
[02:09] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, how do you usually change hte properties of an item??
[02:09] <aimaz> vanderley: what desktop are you using?
[02:09] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, you are using Gnome, right?
[02:09] <zF> FunnyLookinHat, they're listed under places. Yes, I'm using Gnome
[02:09] <Soviet-Toast> Anyone here seen the NME Music Awards?
[02:10] <FunnyLookinHat> ooh, listed there!
[02:10] <vanderley> I installed the UBUNTU version 5.10 and I not change, I am using the default
[02:10] <brenner> aimaz: yes on the xorg question.
[02:10] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, can you go to network servers and do it from there?
[02:10] <Soviet-Toast> any idea why GAIM comes up twice when i log into breezy?
[02:11] <aimaz> brenner: do you know if there is a script or something to rerun the autoconfiguration with it?
[02:11] <FunnyLookinHat> BRB
[02:12] <bimberi> Soviet-Toast: does it have two entries in System -> Preferences -> Sessions (Startup Programs)?
[02:12] <zF> FunnyLookinHat, got it... Thank you :)
[02:12] <brenner> aimaz: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <FunnyLookinHat> zF, awesome :
[02:12] <FunnyLookinHat> : )
[02:12] <brenner> aimaz: er, w/out the first double-quote
[02:12] <aimaz> brenner: thanks
[02:13] <Soviet-Toast> sorry did someone say something to me just as i left?
[02:13] <bimberi> Soviet-Toast: does it have two entries in System -> Preferences -> Sessions (Startup Programs)?
[02:13] <Soviet-Toast> i will look bimberi
[02:13] <vanderley> :/ somebody know, how Can I install new themes in my UBUNTU, themes for desktop including apllets etc
[02:13] <Soviet-Toast> no GAIM isnt even in there
[02:13] <bimberi> vanderley: System -> Preferences -> Theme (Install Theme button)
[02:14] <Hostile> hey, guys i think i need to make it where my apt-get sources is more than just my cd
[02:14] <bimberi> Soviet-Toast: kk, not sure from there sorry
[02:14] <Hostile> i dont think its pulling anything off the intenret how can i update my source list?
[02:14] <FunnyLookinHat> vanderley, yes, you can install new themes...  I've never done it. but I'd say run a search at ubuntuforums.org
[02:14] <LjL> Hostile: it should already
[02:14] <Soviet-Toast> ok
[02:14] <LjL> !tell hostile about easysource
[02:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Hostile, sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Hostile, or in synaptic
[02:14] <Soviet-Toast> whats the debug command through a terminal?
[02:14] <Soviet-Toast> i wanna debug gaim
[02:14] <FunnyLookinHat> yea, do what ubotu tells u
[02:14] <LjL> Soviet-Toast: gdb
[02:14] <joelbryan> what command that is executed when I click the logout menu?
[02:14] <bimberi> Soviet-Toast: gdb
[02:15] <brenner> heh. good luck
[02:15] <Soviet-Toast> whats the actual command in ful... iv only been running ubuntu 2 days... still a n00b :P
[02:15] <FunnyLookinHat> gdb is a very unfun tool
[02:15] <LjL> FunnyLookinHat: not true, it's handy
[02:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Soviet-Toast, you're going to have to google for the exact stuff on how to use GDB
[02:15] <Hostile> okay, even if i did the expert install the pulling of new sources was only install?
[02:16] <nickrud> let me tell you, discovering you did not totally screw someones fstab is a major relief
[02:16] <FunnyLookinHat> Soviet-Toast, but the command you want is gdb gaim
[02:16] <Fracture> anyone know of a project that runs on windows that allows printing over network for printers that don't have linux drivers ?
[02:16] <Soviet-Toast> DEBUG="all" gaim
[02:16] <bimberi> nickrud: glad to hear it :)
[02:16] <Hostile> thanx tho let me give it a whirl
[02:16] <brenner> LjL: iwell, it's both handy and unfun
[02:16] <Soviet-Toast> that did the trick
[02:16] <loxety> hi
[02:16] <Ophiocus> !cups
[02:16] <ubotu> hmm... cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[02:16] <kandinski> heh
[02:17] <maxkelley> if there any way to test a bind9 configuration?
[02:18] <loxety> when I try to install a package with apt-get like kde... it asks me for the install cd.  is there a way to just automagically download the packages?
[02:18] <mikere> maxkelley: have you checked the bind howto?
[02:18] <maxkelley> mikere: i believe so..
[02:18] <maxkelley> bbl
[02:18] <LjL> loxety: sure, just comment out the cd rom from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <FunnyLookinHat> loxety, you could try removing the install CD from your sources.list
[02:18] <loxety> THANKS !!
[02:18] <FunnyLookinHat> and then sudo apt-get update
[02:18] <mournahan> where is a good room for help with tv tuners in ubuntu?
[02:18] <LjL> loxety: also, you might want to enable some more repositories, to have about 17000 programs available
[02:18] <loxety> am new to apt get
[02:18] <mikere> maxkelley: I guess you have to start bind and see if there are any errors?
[02:19] <brenner> mournahan: you're looking at the most relevant one
[02:19] <loxety> thanks a lot!!
[02:19] <loxety> this is great!
[02:19] <Fracture> just like you can print to a pdf file in linux, why can;t you have a print driver that generates the pdf file, then sends it to a windows print server to print it ?
[02:19] <brenner> mournahan: you might want to look at ubuntuforums.org as well
[02:19] <bimberi> Fracture: because you haven't written it! :)
[02:19] <Ophiocus> Fracture, read about cups?
[02:19] <nickrud> bimberi: I was afraid he'd totally lost /etc/fstab, thru my ignorance. Thank god, I had him do a backup first
[02:19] <mournahan> i have a adaptec videoh! media center USB, and cant find a linux driver?
[02:20] <Fracture> yeah, I know about CUPS.
[02:20] <jon_> fracture, :) Just use open office to make the PDF
[02:20] <jon_> Fracture*, Just use Open Office to make the PDF
[02:20] <Ophiocus> ^^
[02:20] <Hostile> okay i generated list where do i save it to?
[02:21] <LjL> loxety: note that you'll have to run "sudo apt-get update" after changing your sources.list, otherwise the changes won't be seen
[02:21] <Fracture> but I want to be able to print to this thing from any app
[02:21] <loxety> LjL, why is that?
[02:21] <mournahan> what is my first step to making a driver?
[02:22] <FunnyLookinHat> mournahan, best bet is to use a driver wrapper to use a windows one instead
[02:22] <jon_> Fracture, I'm confused, then why make it into a PDF before printing?
[02:22] <LjL> loxety: because the APT system cannot know that you modified the sources.list file without telling it
[02:22] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu tell mournahan about ndis
[02:22] <loxety> LjL, ok
[02:22] <bimberi> nickrud: yes i saw that.  If it had been lost you could put something together based on the output of 'mount' (but only if the system is still up)
[02:22] <LjL> loxety: it must read it, see that you've added/removed some repositories, and download the list of packages from them
[02:22] <Fracture> ok.. the problem is that lots of printers don't have liunx drivers. So the idea is to have a printer driver that can talk to a windows service to do the printing.  the windows service uses the windows driver to print.
[02:23] <nickrud> bimberi: sudo fdisk -l, cat /etc/mtab, mount, they were all revolving in my head
[02:23] <Hostile> what directory should i save my newly generated source list to?
[02:23] <Fracture> i was just suggesting pdf could be the format for sending the document to print, since it is a 'print' focused format.
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> Friend upstairs with borked MS Windows.  Solution: Grab Live CD and head up!  Wish me luck.
[02:23] <FunnyLookinHat> Hostile, /etc/apt/
[02:23] <Hostile> thanx
[02:24] <loxety> btw I'm doing  this from the shell
[02:24] <LjL> loxety: yup, that's fine
[02:25] <brenner> Hostile: /etc/apt
[02:25] <LjL> loxety: i also suggest that you use aptitude to install programs rather than apt-get. the syntax is the same
[02:25] <brenner> bah.
[02:25] <nickrud> bimberi: but, he's got a working access to his usb stick, so, ok
[02:26] <bimberi> nickrud: good stuff :)
[02:26] <bimberi> nickrud: time for a medicinal drink :)
[02:26] <nickrud> medicinal, <insert>, hah
[02:27] !lilo:*! Channel hints: Phroziac mentions ##gender, a channel to discuss gender-related issues
[02:28] <shiv> This sucks. After my login when I choose gnome the panels start blinking and would not load any further. I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and reinstalled it still no change. Please help
[02:28] <kandinski> ubuntu dapper chroot in sarge proving more than elusive
[02:28] <kandinski> dapper script not working with sarge debootstrap
[02:28] <shiv> kde runs fine
[02:29] <kandinski> (got dapper script from a breezy computer)
[02:29] <bimberi> shiv: are you gnome free now?
[02:29] <kandinski> any tips?
[02:29] <shiv> no
[02:29] <shiv> I was but I did not want to lose it. I was trying to fix the above problem
[02:30] <loxety> LjL, Thanks again!
[02:30] <JonathanKent> I dont have this library configure: error: readline library not found
[02:30] <JonathanKent> where i can download?
[02:30] <crimsun> !info libreadline4-dev
[02:30] <ubotu> libreadline4-dev: (GNU readline and history libraries, development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 4.3-15 (breezy), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 524 kB
[02:30] <crimsun> !info libreadline5-dev
[02:31] <ubotu> libreadline5-dev: (GNU readline and history libraries, development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.0-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 205 kB, Installed size: 568 kB
[02:31] <JonathanKent> ?
[02:31] <kbrooks> Ubuntu!
[02:31] <crimsun> JonathanKent: install one of those two packages
[02:32] <kbrooks> !dapper
[02:32] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[02:32] <JonathanKent> where is the pag?
[02:32] <kbrooks> OK. Uhoh.
[02:32] <kbrooks> april?
[02:32] <kbrooks> did i read that right?
[02:32] <kbrooks> APRIL?
[02:33] <bimberi> a.p.r.i.l.
[02:33] <crimsun> JonathanKent: use synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get to install it
[02:33] <kbrooks> dang.
[02:33] <kbrooks> !warty
[02:33] <ubotu> methinks warty is short for warty warthog which is the first release of ubuntu
[02:33] <kbrooks> !hoary
[02:33] <ubotu> it has been said that hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[02:33] <LjL> uuh?
[02:33] <kbrooks> !breeezy
[02:33] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[02:34] <JonathanKent> i not remember the apt-get can you please put the command?
[02:34] <LjL> !tell JonathanKent about shortapt
[02:34] <crimsun> JonathanKent: you can use synaptic, too...
[02:34] <ablyss> sudo apt-get install "application name"
[02:34] <JonathanKent> oki :)
[02:35] <nickrud> !shortapt
[02:35] <ubotu> Use "apt-cache search <keywords>" to find a package of interest. Use "apt-cache show <package>" to get further information about it. Use "sudo aptitude install <package>" to install it, and "sudo aptitude remove <package>" to uninstall it.
[02:35] <nickrud> nice
[02:35] <sixtymhz> what is the program I can use that will let df output visually in terminal?
[02:35] <javiolo> hi is there any messenger for terminal ?
[02:35] <kbrooks> if i want to upgrade to dappeer rfrom warty, must i upgrade to hoary, then breezy, before dapper?
[02:35] <kandinski> JonathanKent: "aptitude install" and "aptitude search" also work too
[02:35] <ablyss> sixtymhz, what do you mean "visually" ?
[02:35] <nickrud> kbrooks: if you want any chance of success, yes
[02:36] <kandinski> JonathanKent: you might have to apt-get install aptitude first, though ;)
[02:36] <vanderley> How Can I visualize my hds with a user no root?
[02:36] <LjL> kandinski: i don't use those (not aptitude update) because aptitude is slightly slower...
[02:36] <kbrooks> nickrud: what do you mean?
[02:36] <nickrud> kandinski: aptitude search doesn't search through descriptions
[02:36] <LjL> kandinski: it does some more of its own database handling, which isn't really needed for searching etc
[02:36] <nickrud> kbrooks: never skip a release
[02:36] <LjL> nickrud: yeah, that too
[02:36] <kbrooks> nickrud: why?
[02:36] <sixtymhz> like it will display [******     ]  for the amount of space
[02:36] <kandinski> LjL, nickrud: thanks
[02:36] <nickrud> kbrooks: because, it's not supported, by definition
[02:36] <mwp> javiolo: you "probably" can go straight to dapper, however when dapper is released warty no longer will be.
[02:37] <kbrooks> eh, "by definition"?
[02:37] <mwp> javiolo: warty will no longer be supported
[02:37] <kbrooks> mwp: me
[02:37] <kbrooks> not him
[02:37] <javiolo> mwp ?
[02:37] <LjL> kbrooks: well it's simply not guaranteed to work. it might even work, who knows, but the devs concentrate on making upgrades works from adjacent versions only
[02:37] <javiolo> is there any messenger for terminal ?
[02:37] <kbrooks> adjacent?
[02:37] <jon_> javiolo, Yes.
[02:37] <nickrud> kbrooks: by definition, meaning dist-upgrade
[02:37] <mwp> javiolo: Ubuntu is officially supporting 2 versions back, so they are probably not testing an upgrade from warty to dapper
[02:38] <kbrooks> mwp: TO ME
[02:38] <LjL> kbrooks: consecutive, one-after-another
[02:38] <jon_> javiolo, Check out centericq, Has AIM YAHOO MSN, and of course ICQ ;)
[02:38] <kbrooks> NOT TO HIM
[02:38] <maxkelley> hey kbrooks
[02:38] <javiolo> jon_ thanks!
[02:38] <kbrooks> maxkelley: pm me that irc network again
[02:38] <mwp> kbrooks: lol sorry... its getting late
[02:38] <mwp> kbrooks: my eyes must be jumpin
[02:38] <jon_> javiolo, No problem.
[02:39] <ablyss> sixtymhz, `du -hs` maybe want u want?
[02:39] <mwp> kbrooks: I bet it would work though. debian's package manager is pretty smart
[02:39] <LjL> mwp: i wouldn't bet on it
[02:39] <mwp> LjL: why not?
[02:39] <LjL> mwp: that it would work i mean, APT *is* smart, but it does what it can
[02:39] <JonathanKent> !info  zlib
[02:39] <JonathanKent> !info  zliblibrary
[02:40] <JonathanKent> =/
[02:40] <LjL> mwp: because even a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy must be done with a little more care than just a blind dist-upgrade
[02:40] <instabin> its it possiable to expand an lvm volume
[02:40] <JonathanKent> configure: error: zlib library not found
[02:40] <JonathanKent>  <= i need this but i dont now the name of the library
[02:41] <maxkelley> dedos.
[02:41] <nickrud> the problem with apt, is it has to deal with developers 
[02:41] <IdleOne> Jonathanapt-cache searc zlib
[02:41] <mwp> Ljl: definately be interesting to see if it would work.
[02:41] <maxkelley> i love that smily.
[02:41] <shiv> This sucks. After my login when I choose gnome the panels start blinking and would not load any further. I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and reinstalled it still no change. Please help
[02:41] <JonathanKent> ?
[02:41] <LjL> mwp: interesting perhaps, yes, on someone else's system :)
[02:41] <IdleOne> JonathanKent>  apt-cache search zlib
[02:41] <JonathanKent> !search zlib
[02:41] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JonathanKent
[02:41] <JonathanKent> ok
[02:41] <mwp> lol
[02:41] <LjL> !find zlib
[02:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'zlib' (9 shown): libcompress-zlib-perl ;; libio-zlib-perl ;; libjzlib-java ;; libzlib-ruby ;; libzlib-ruby1.6 ;; zlib-bin ;; zlib1g ;; zlib1g-dev ;; zlibc.
[02:42] <mwp> shiv: that happened to me once after I installed kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <Toma-> shiv, checked the ~/.xsession-errors file?
[02:42] <mwp> shiv: I uninstalled kubuntu and it worked fine after that
[02:42] <shiv> hmm
[02:42] <mwp> shiv: did you install kubuntu-desktop recently?
[02:42] <shiv> yes
[02:42] <shiv> but it was working fine for 2 days
[02:43] <shiv> both of them
[02:43] <JonathanKent> !info libcompress-zlib-perl
[02:43] <ubotu> libcompress-zlib-perl: (Perl module for creation and manipulation of gzip files), section perl, is optional. Version: 1.34-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 220 kB
[02:43] <mwp> div: i reported it on kubuntu-forums but no-one seemed to care
[02:43] <mwp> er shiv:
[02:43] <JonathanKent> !info zlib1g
[02:43] <ubotu> zlib1g: (compression library - runtime), section libs, is required. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 67 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[02:43] <JonathanKent> am =/
[02:43] <shiv> where is the xsessions error file?
[02:44] <LjL> !msg the bot
[02:44] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:44] <nickrud> JonathanKent: you can open a dialog window to ask ubout questions like that
[02:44] <Toma-> shiv, in your home folder, but its hidden.
[02:44] <JonathanKent> in private?
[02:44] <nickrud> JonathanKent: exactly
[02:44] <LjL> JonathanKent: type /query ubotu
[02:44] <JonathanKent> oki:)
[02:44] <nickrud> JonathanKent: right click ubotu, open dialog window
[02:44] <Ocean> startkeylogger
[02:45] <LjL> nickrud: i said TYPE /QUERY UBOTU, you GUI lover >:
[02:45] <nickrud> LjL: at least the topic don't scroll off my screen ;p
[02:45] <LjL> :P
[02:45] <mwp> shiv: here is my thread http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2357.msg9044#msg9044
[02:46] <nickrud> Ubugtu seems kinda useful, sadly
[02:46] <LjL> :\
[02:46] <LjL> at least the startkey logger thing doesn't really do anything in 99% of cases
[02:46] <mwp> I actually have a bluetooth question if anyone can help
[02:46] <LjL> (at least not here)
[02:46] <IdleOne> it's been 6 days now these wanna be hacker kiddies have been using that exploit
[02:47] <FunnyLookinHat_> it was posted on /. like a week ago yea
[02:47] <mwp> I just recently got a bluetooth phone and usb/bluetooth dongle. I've never used bluetooth under Linux before was hoping someone could point me in a direction
[02:47] <IdleOne> !bluetooth
[02:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[02:48] <shiv> mwp: I did that just now but that also remove many kde applications. What if this does not work then I won't have kde left to boot either. Is that correct?
[02:48] <julia_> ooi
[02:48] <nickrud> mwp: I don't use bluetooth much, but any additions you can make to that page probably would be welcome
[02:48] <mwp> shiv: if it doesn't work re-install kde desktop
[02:48] <mwp> shiv: er kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <shiv> but thats what I am saying . I will not have any GUI to work with to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <shiv> I am poor at commmand line
[02:49] <fn_> is "apt-get remove" completely remove the package ?
[02:49] <mwp> shiv: there is always xfce
[02:49] <IdleOne> shiv you will login and then get a shell prompt from there you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <jose> why i cannot play mp3 files??
[02:49] <sixtymhz> Removes the package but doesnt remove the conf files
[02:49] <LjL> fn_: no, as it leaves the configuration files there
[02:49] <shiv> I see
[02:49] <EBAR> Has anyone here used ddclient? I was wondering how well it worked for them. Are there any other solutions for dyndns that I should be aware of? My hope is to run a web server from home.
[02:49] <Hostile> i need to reinstall kubuntu-desktop  i nee to update my list
[02:49] <shiv> let me go ahead
[02:49] <Hostile> first
[02:50] <IdleOne> !tell jose  about mp3
[02:50] <LjL> fn_: "--purge remove" removes it completely. not that even this does not removes any dependencies that were installed, though
[02:50] <fn_> so, how to remove completely ? include the config file ?
[02:50] <mwp> nickrud: what is the current bluetooth page?
[02:50] <sixtymhz> just like LjL said
[02:50] <nickrud> jose: you cannot play mp3 immediately because it's not a free format, see the links you've been give
[02:50] <jose> ok ty
[02:51] <IdleOne> !tell mwp  about bluetooth
[02:51] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup  mwp, that's supposed to be the canonical one
[02:51] <fn_> LjL: thank you
[02:51] <shiv> mwp:keeping fingers crossed :(
[02:51] <fn_> i`ll try it
[02:51] <vanderley> Hi
[02:52] <mwp> thanks that is what I have been looking for. I searched the wiki first, but ended up somewhere else ... hmph
[02:52] <mwp> I'm 0/2 tonight
[02:52] <vanderley> How can I open my HDs with a user not root?
[02:52] <EBAR> Has anyone here used ddclient?
[02:53] <jon__> hello i'm using xfce4 and i had my desktop BG set up, and it was good -- but then when i restarted gdm it now has this "brown" colored bg which is an ubuntu related theme, what happened? I can't set my wallpaper through xfce either (I can, but the brown ubuntu bg won't go away)
[02:53] <IdleOne> vanderley>  what do you mean by open?
[02:54] <nickrud> EBAR: yes, and I've helped with a couple of people recently. Start by editing /etc/default/ddclient, and settingrun_daemon="false" as true
[02:54] <shiv> wow that worked like charm. I am back to gnome :)
[02:54] <shiv> thanks a lot
[02:54] <IdleOne> shiv>  wtg :)
[02:54] <shiv> I do want to have both though should I install the kde-desktop now?
[02:54] <CanadianSnow> so, how do I run the partitioner from the CD?
[02:54] <vanderley> To acess your conteuds
[02:55] <mwp> shiv: awesome... get I'm 1 for 3
[02:55] <nickrud> shiv: kubuntu-desktop
[02:55] <mwp> nickrud: any idea what my password is? when I try to pair my phone it is asking me for a password
[02:55] <IdleOne> !tell vanderley  about mount
[02:55] <vanderley> IdleOne: to accsess the HDs files
[02:55] <erg0t_> hello everybody
[02:55] <eatnumber1> how do I use apt-get to remove a package and all the packages it installed as dependencies that will no longer be needed?
[02:55] <EBAR> nickrud: Thank you for responding. I was actually just wondering if you've had success with it. If you would recommend it or if you know of any other dyndns solutions that you might suggest. My hope is to run a web server from home.
[02:55] <IdleOne> vanderley>  look at the msg you got from ubotu
[02:55] <erg0t_> im having problems installing thunderbird on my ubuntu system... :(
[02:55] <erg0t_> where could i find some help?
[02:55] <nickrud> EBAR: I used ddclient when I had a dynamic address, worked great
[02:55] <vanderley> butI saw
[02:55] <vanderley> ops
[02:55] <vanderley> I saw
[02:56] <vanderley> thanks
[02:56] <CanadianSnow> nobody?
[02:56] <nickrud> mwp: I just looked over the wiki, and gave you the best link I could find. I don't have bluetooth to test
[02:56] <IdleOne> erg0t_>  it has been said that thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[02:56] <mwp> nickrud: thanks anyway :)
[02:56] <IdleOne> erg0t_>  wrong link sorry
[02:56] <erg0t_> IdleOne, i dont...
[02:56] <EBAR> nickrud: Good to hear. I was also wondering. can you set it to ping an outside web site like google.com every few minutes so as to keep your IP?
[02:56] <erg0t_> IdleOne, yea
[02:56] <mwp> shiv: you may want to respond to my post on the kubuntu forums and mention that it happened to you too
[02:56] <erg0t_> IdleOne, im triying to install thunderbird
[02:57] <erg0t_> this is the error i get
[02:57] <eatnumber1> how do I use apt-get to remove a package and all the packages it installed as dependencies that will no longer be needed?
[02:57] <LjL> eatnumber1: you can't
[02:57] <IdleOne> erg0t_>  yeah I didnt read before pasting you the link
[02:57] <erg0t_> root@ubuntu:/thunderbird# ./mozilla-installer-bin
[02:57] <erg0t_> ./mozilla-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:57] <LjL> eatnumber1: you can if you use aptitude, but then you need to use aptitude to install it as well
[02:57] <oatis> with 'apt' how do I completly remove a package? files and all?
[02:57] <shiv> mwp: sure I will do that
[02:57] <erg0t_> IdleOne, thats the error
[02:57] <zorba64> CanadianSnow: live cd?
[02:57] <shiv> what was the link againplz?
[02:57] <CanadianSnow> any ubuntu CD
[02:57] <nickrud> EBAR: that's a different question, about how long your isp maintains your ip. ddclient should update within minutes, you shouldn't have to ping anybody
[02:57] <erg0t_> how would i install that missing library
[02:57] <erg0t_> ?
[02:57] <mwp> shiv: were you on hoary or warty too?
[02:57] <jon__> Here's a picture of the problem I'm having -- http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=qxj6zm -- any idea how I can get the ubuntu default "shit brown" desktop off and get my normal wallpaper theme? ;-)
[02:57] <IdleOne> erg0t_> sudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.5
[02:57] <HymnToLife> erg0t_> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[02:58] <XiCillin> is anybody running apache2 on their ubuntu?
[02:58] <shiv> mwp: breezy what was the link again?
[02:58] <EBAR> nickrud: Thank you. I think I'm going to give it a shot. I appreciate your input!
[02:58] <HymnToLife> yes XiCillin
[02:58] <mwp> shiv: here is my thread http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2357.msg9044#msg9044
[02:58] <nickrud> EBAR: try running ddclient, by itself as intended to run, you should be ok
[02:58] <EBAR> nickrud: Ok, I will. Thanks again.
[02:58] <zorba64> CanadianSnow: Installer...just follow the install til you get to the partition selections...in the live cd try sudo gparted from the terminal
[02:58] <XiCillin> Hymntolife: man apache2 says all the configuration files are in /usr/local/apache2 but that directory doesn't even exist for me
[02:59] <IdleOne> jon__>  first off watch the language please
[02:59] <XiCillin> is it somewhere else?
[02:59] <Fracture> Hi.  I have been able to print to my samba printer, however every print job is scaled about 60% of the propper size.  Printing a test page, or printing from evolution, gedit, acrobat reader.  all do the same thing.
[02:59] <HymnToLife> XiCillin> their in /etc/apach2 I think
[02:59] <HymnToLife> all the config files are in /etc
[02:59] <jon__> IdleOne, OK, well, any idea to the issue I'm having?
[02:59] <XiCillin> yes! they are sweet
[02:59] <XiCillin> thanks
[02:59] <nickrud> When *I* wanted to know, I had to go all over the net to get reasonable answers
[02:59] <mwp> nickrud: I found it!
[02:59] <HymnToLife> yw
[03:00] <CanadianSnow> ok thanks zorba
[03:00] <mwp> nickrud: /etc/bluetooth/pin
[03:00] <nickrud> mwp: cool
[03:00] <pelaodreks> hola a todos
[03:00] <HymnToLife> !es
[03:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <LjL> nickrud: then you found it, and now it's public domain. that's good ;)
[03:00] <XiCillin> and do you know where the default server root is/?
[03:00] <HymnToLife> it's /var/www
[03:00] <nickrud> LjL: no, I want COPYWRITE
[03:00] <Amaranth> copyright
[03:00] <nickrud> snort
[03:01] <nickrud> Amaranth: you will not diss me, I have 1 minute's dispensation 
[03:01] <LjL> nickrud: you can't copyright a procedure ;) you can copyright your own description of it if you like
[03:02] <pelaodreks> hola a todos
[03:02] <HymnToLife> !es
[03:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:02] <Amaranth> stop abusing katakana
[03:02] <nickrud> LjL: I knew what I wrote, it was bait. You're it 
[03:02] <Amaranth> grr
[03:03] <HymnToLife> lol Amaranth (like your nick btw)
[03:03] <jon_> IdleOne, That was weird because I didn't send that message at all.. o.o
[03:03] <Amaranth> abuse your own language for smilies
[03:03] <LjL> pelaodreks: por favor haga come dice el bot, aqui solamente hablamos ingles
[03:03] <nickrud> Amaranth: blame seveas, I'm just a COPYcat
[03:03] <ploom> Amaranth, would  be abusing?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> yes it would
[03:03] <jon_> IdleOne, Ah nvm.  it just ... sent to me too..for some reason.
[03:03] <IdleOne> hehe
[03:03] <HymnToLife> damn I'm turning like Seveas now :D
[03:04] <ploom> Amaranth, could you explain at least what does  mean?
[03:04] <LjL> HymnToLife: but seveas uses that =)
[03:04] <jon_> IdleOne, When I read what jon__ wrote, i'm like "whoa..O.o I don't even have that brown theme anymore"
[03:04] <HymnToLife> it' just a square for me
[03:04] <jon_> ;)
[03:04] <nickrud> I wanna see odd unicode replacements for all those ugly html smiley stuff
[03:04] <rekrutacja> hi all
[03:04] <HymnToLife> ascii rocks
[03:04] <Amaranth> ploom: i don't remember, but it's a character in katakana
[03:05] <jon__> jon_, I found out the problem and fixed it
[03:05] <jon__> thanks
[03:05] <ploom> hehe - at least I know now, its katakana :-)
[03:05] <jon_> jon__, Good to hear.
[03:05] <rekrutacja> i'm looking for a small , fast calendar aplication well integrated with gnome. evolution is overkill for me and it doesn't run well on my old hardware. do you have any idea what may help me?
[03:06] <Toma-> _
[03:06] <nickrud> ohh, purty Toma-
[03:06] <sanity> i am working on a Java app designed to run as a demon on an Ubuntu server - is there a standard way to deploy such an application?
[03:06] <Toma-> ;)
[03:06] <ploom> joy and happiness everyone here: 
[03:06] <LjL> rekrutacja: "apt-cache search calendar gnome" might
[03:07] <LjL> rekrutacja: perhaps gnome-pim specifically
[03:07] <vanderley> Hey
[03:07] <rekrutacja> ljl that gives only gnome-pim
[03:07] <Toma-> 
[03:07] <nickrud> ploom: dangerous, but nice
[03:07] <rekrutacja> LjL, yes :-)
[03:07] <setuid_> ploom, interesting switch ;)_
[03:07] <LjL> rekrutacja: but gnome-pim says it contains gnomecal, which (at least as the name goes) doesn't seem to be the same thing as evolution
[03:07] <vanderley> I can mount my NTFSs partitions but I cant have access your files
[03:07] <vanderley> :/
[03:07] <mournahan> will ndiswrapper work with USB?
[03:08] <vanderley> What I do?
[03:08] <rekrutacja> LjL, but does it integrate with gnome time and date (right upper corner) the same way evolution does it in standard config?
[03:08] <LjL> rekrutacja: i don't really know, i'm a kde user
[03:08] <Amaranth>  is a hindu symbol
[03:08] <mikearthur> what CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS is Ubuntu compiled with?
[03:08] <mournahan> the bot page only has wifi support
[03:08] <nickrud> rekrutacja: not much work has been done with pims in gnome, except for evolution. You'll need to look elsewerhe
[03:08] <AngryElf> what's a good pdf viewer, evince (the default) seems really slow
[03:08] <HymnToLife> nlah, screw unicodeI'm an old grumpy guy using only ASCII :p
[03:08] <ploom> hey, we Estonians know what a symbol of happiness was before some idiot tilted it by 45 degrees...
[03:09] <Amaranth> vanderley: NTFS is read-only
[03:09] <Xenguy> AngryElf: xpdf is one; also gpdf
[03:09] <LjL> Amaranth, ploom: are you waiting for a certain guy to come and ban just about the whole channel angrily, or what? =)
[03:09] <vanderley> ok
[03:09] <rekrutacja> nickrud, thanks
[03:09] <vanderley> But for to read I have to access
[03:09] <vanderley> no?
[03:09] <HymnToLife> yes
[03:09] <HymnToLife> see that
[03:09] <Xenguy> AngryElf: can't say if they are "good" or not tho (xpdf is the classic pdf viewer)
[03:09] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[03:09] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:09] <ploom> LjL, and I would know, who such a banner is then
[03:09] <nickrud> rekrutacja: I can't give much advice about alternatives, since I'm a gnomer from way back
[03:09] <mournahan> angryelf, you can get Adobe reader for linux from there website
[03:10] <ploom> LjL, not wise definitely
[03:10] <rekrutacja> LjL, i will check gnome-pim, but it odesnt smell good (it says that its a gnome 1 app and asks for lots of additional librariesd...)
[03:10] <LjL> rekrutacja: hmm... get kde :)
[03:10] <mournahan> i used it and it works good, thank adobe for supporting the linux community!
[03:10] <rekrutacja> LjL, never :-)
[03:11] <setuid_> ploom: ahem... your symbol is not a swastika, unless you mirror-image it
[03:11] <nickrud> rekrutacja: gnome-pim is old, and abandoned
[03:11] <setuid_> Since it stood for SS, it was two overlapping S's
[03:11] <Gabe> When installing ubuntu, my system hangs when preparing the disk partitioner.  It always quits at 29%, and it a)scrolls a bunch of messages, or b) scrolls the word "Killed" if I format the drive.
[03:11] <vanderley> I can't read files of my NTFS partitions, What I do?
[03:12] <ploom> setuid_, isn't tilting by 45 degrees what counts - not mirroring
[03:12] <Gabe> Any ideas on how to get around this?
[03:12] <ploom> setuid_, and its among unicode - that's what counts :-)
[03:12] <raymond__> im trying to add plugins to gaim but i cant find the plugin folder, can someone help
[03:12] <mournahan> will ndiswrapper work with USB? the bot page only has wifi support
[03:12] <setuid_> ploom: If its not showing two S's, its not a swastika
[03:12] <rekrutacja> nickrud, i found something  alled gdeskc al, will give it a try...
[03:13] <raymond__>  im trying to add plugins to gaim but i cant find the plugin folder, can someone help
[03:13] <joelbryan> DAMN!! the OpenOffice is fuckin' wicked!
[03:13] <LjL> joelbryan: language please
[03:13] <IdleOne> joelbryan>  language
[03:13] <Amaranth> mournahan: no, ndiswrapper only works with ndis drivers, which are the wireless ones
[03:14] <mournahan> amaranth, what do i use for a tv tuner usb?
[03:14] <joelbryan> oops, sorry, the new OpenOffice.org supports gtk2 file selector, and has an new splash screen.
[03:14] <nickrud> joelbryan: we work on the assumtion that 12 year olds are welcome
[03:14] <ploom> setuid_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
[03:14] <lnx_> how do you remove the update-notification icon from the panel?
[03:15] <raymond__> im trying to add plugins to gaim but i cant find the plugin folder, can someone help
[03:15] <LjL> openoffice... file selector...? you mean there is a gnome apps that actually complies with gnome guidelines?!
[03:15] <Amaranth> mournahan: i don't know
[03:15] <Amaranth> lnx_: update
[03:15] <nickrud> lnx_: I can't imagine why you wouldn't want it, it's the best thing since gnome 2.0
[03:15] <Amaranth> lnx_: it's in the notification tray, it's not a regular applet
[03:16] <lnx_> Amaranth, is there a way to remove it from the notification tray?
[03:16] <joelbryan> LjL: it's not yet fully GNOME-ish, some are still javaish, you can easily tell the difference..
[03:16] <setuid_> ploom: As a symbol called the swastika, it can be in any orientation. As a symbol of Nazism, it can ONLY be oriented right-facing (SS), either straight or angled.
[03:16] <Amaranth> lnx_: kill the program from the terminal
[03:16] <ploom> setuid_, ...and tilted by like 45 degrees - please dont forget it
[03:16] <rekrutacja> nickrud, ok, gdeskcal seems to be in a deep alfa stage :)
[03:16] <lnx_> amaranth: killall update
[03:16] <lnx_> ?
[03:17] <Amaranth> no
[03:17] <nickrud> lnx_: remove the package update-notifier
[03:17] <Amaranth> i don't know the name of the process, i'm on os x
[03:17] <Amaranth> nickrud: bad idea
[03:17] <ITS_FOR_REAL> if i type like this ->  echo "test" | mail its4real@bredband.net  and it doesnt work.. what can be wrong? mail client is working properly...
[03:17] <nickrud> Amaranth: I agree
[03:17] <ploom> ...actually about usage of swastika, appears that the H guy only wanted "joy and happiness" to the race of adrians - but it worked out "as always"
[03:17] <vanderley> Help-me, I cant read files in my NTFS partitions, I mount but I can't access
[03:17] <moonman> i just converted a long time windows user to ubuntu.
[03:18] <ploom> ...poor guy.
[03:18] <nickrud> Amaranth: like I said, best thing since gnome 2.0
[03:18] <drakonan> nalioth, heh, no, i was trying too hard... i thought for sure it had a . in it or something, thanks
[03:18] <rekrutacja> is there anyone with experience with sunbird? i want to know is it operational, or also still in development and unusable?
[03:18] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[03:18] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:18] <danielle> !tell vanderley about ntfs
[03:18] <aimaz> rekrutacja: sunbird is the calendar right?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> ploom> and it kind of worked
[03:19] <rekrutacja> aimaz, right
[03:19] <aimaz> I've been using a mozilla calendar thing that goes with firefox
[03:19] <HymnToLife> late 30s and early 40s were a time of prosperity for Germany
[03:19] <aimaz> it works quite well
[03:19] <aimaz> i think it is based on the same code
[03:19] <drakonan> Is there a kind of manual on ubuntu, i see wiki as more of areference?
[03:19] <HymnToLife> but that's slightly offtopic I think
[03:19] <rekrutacja> aimaz, is it a plugin for firefox?
[03:19] <ploom> aimaz, have you tried syncing moz-calendar?
[03:19] <rekrutacja> aimaz, could you recall its name?
[03:19] <nickrud> drakonan: help.ubuntu.com ; it'll be much better when dapper is released
[03:20] <ploom> aimaz, like sync4j - it worked fine for me until one time the Calendar discovered that every calendar entry has been deleted
[03:20] <aimaz> rekrutacja: it calls itself "mozilla calendar"
[03:20] <wotnarg> I'm trying to compile a program, and it complains 'Can't find X includes.'. There doesn't appear to be an X dev pacakge in the repos, except for xserver-xorg-dev, which doesn't help. No x-window-system-dev package either...
[03:20] <nickrud> wotnarg: x-window-system-dev
[03:20] <as_28> hello
[03:20] <aimaz> ploom: i haven't tried the syncing yet
[03:20] <JonathanKent> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[03:20] <JonathanKent>  where i can download the gtk?
[03:20] <as_28> I need help!!!!!!
[03:21] <aimaz> as_28: ask a question
[03:21] <nickrud> wotnarg: I wrote that before finishing your comment; it does exist
[03:21] <ploom> ...so I synced with my phone afterwards and all my 300+ calendar items got just *deleted*: luckily I still have a backup for my past...
[03:21] <swim> hey folks I've got a pvr-150 that comes with a remote, all I really want is to get the remote to work so I can use it with amarok... does anyone know if that will be possible?
[03:21] <ITS_FOR_REAL> I cant get sendmail to work or so... made a php script to my apache2 but no mails will turn up ;)  when i got this installed on a ms win it was running so i guess it aint a faulty php script
[03:21] <as_28> i install ubuntu and when is loading I get hung when says, Ckecking Battery State
[03:21] <as_28> ???
[03:21] <lnx_> is there a way to add an application to the notification area?
[03:21] <JonathanKent> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found?
[03:22] <aimaz> as_28: is the machine a laptop?
[03:22] <nickrud> lnx_: not unless there's software written explicity to do that
[03:22] <as_28> yes
[03:22] <wotnarg> nickrud: apt-get install x-window-system-dev returns a couldn't find error. And I have all repos enabled as far as I can tell.
[03:22] <[FIZ] > i'm new in ubuntu and i need a little help, how can i intall a program?? the files are in tar.gz and i dont knwo how to install them
[03:22] <as_28> new one
[03:22] <nickrud> wotnarg: are you on dapper?
[03:22] <as_28> with an ati video card
[03:22] <wotnarg> yea
[03:22] <lnx_> nickrud, i have two notification areas on my panel and i want to remove the gaim from one and move it to the other
[03:22] <JonathanKent> :(
[03:22] <JonathanKent> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found?
[03:22] <lnx_> nickrud, is that possible?
[03:23] <nickrud> wotnarg: I couldn't find it on my dapper, either 
[03:23] <nickrud> lnx_: delete one of the notification areas
[03:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> So anybody got a clue how to make sendmail with php to work or so? :/
[03:23] <wotnarg> nickrud: So, no dice for compiling it if I'm on dapper?
[03:23] <nickrud> wotnarg: I'm a debian guy, I'm behind the times ;(\
[03:23] <as_28> aimaz: any ideas?
[03:24] <aimaz> as_28: i was going to suggest if it wasn't a laptop just removing the line
[03:24] <wotnarg> nickrud: I switch between ubuntu and debian and various version of them with regularity, so I don't know what kinda guy I am :p
[03:24] <nickrud> wotnarg: all is possible, a sec. It's time for aptitude!
[03:24] <aimaz> as_28: what happens if you press ctrl+c when it gets to checking battery state?
[03:24] <lnx_> nickrud: i want the two notification areas, one with just gaim, and one with just gmail-notify
[03:24] <as_28> nothing
[03:24] <HymnToLife> wotnarg> a geek :p
[03:24] <[FIZ] > i'm new in ubuntu and i need a little help, how can i intall a program?? the files are in tar.gz and i dont knwo how to install them
[03:24] <as_28> i just read in a forum
[03:24] <as_28> that is a problem with the video card
[03:25] <nickrud> lnx_: personally, I only need one notification area for apps to drop things in
[03:25] <HymnToLife> [FIZ] > most of the time you won't neet any tarballs
[03:25] <wotnarg> HymnToLife: Heh, most non newbies in here are by definition geeks :p
[03:25] <HymnToLife> !tell [FIZ]  about apt
[03:25] <[FIZ] > ...
[03:25] <HymnToLife> indeed :D
[03:25] <JonathanKent> Help Help Help
[03:25] <JonathanKent> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found where i can download please :(
[03:25] <HymnToLife> but being a geek is not a bad thing
[03:25] <HymnToLife> it's mostly good I think, s long as you take showers regularly :p
[03:25] <wotnarg> HymnToLife: Very true
[03:26] <dfc> can anyone recommend pmud over pbbuttons?
[03:26] <JonathanKent> :(
[03:26] <crimsun> JonathanKent: gtk1 or gtk2 app?
[03:26] <crimsun> JonathanKent: you either need libgtk1.2-dev or libgtk2.0-dev
[03:26] <JonathanKent> amm gtk2
[03:26] <cafuego> dfc: Surely someone can, but that's oprobably not useful to you.
[03:26] <ITS_FOR_REAL> well any geek then.... php to work on apache2 with sendmail..
[03:26] <JonathanKent> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[03:26] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: (Development files for the GTK+ library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2163 kB, Installed size: 8008 kB
[03:26] <dfc> cafuego: ?
[03:26] <nickrud> wotnarg: I'm defeated, for now.
[03:26] <cafuego> dfc: if you want to know which one is better, try both.
[03:27] <wotnarg> nickrud: Hrm. Time to go hunting for source methinks. Thanks for trying :)
[03:27] <as_28> aimaz: any ideas?
[03:27] <V4Vendetta> i have an older computer with inegrated intel audio, can somone tell me why xmms locks up constantly saying the sound card is in usre?
[03:27] <dfc> cafuego: do you have any experience with either? Or why is one depended on by ubuntu-desktop and the other not/
[03:27] <as_28> aimaz: sorry to bother you
[03:27] <aimaz> as_28: does the forum offer any suggestions?
[03:27] <erg0t_> V4Vendetta, soundcard is probably not compatible
[03:27] <nickrud> wotnarg: this is a real break from the past.
[03:27] <V4Vendetta> erg0t_~ thats weird since it works alot of the time ..
[03:28] <HymnToLife> dfc> trying to choose between KDE/Gnome ?
[03:28] <as_28> yes but moust of them are for nvidia cards
[03:28] <cafuego> dfc: One got picked as default, the other didn't.
[03:28] <as_28> and mine is Ati
[03:28] <erg0t_> V4Vendetta, ocassional crashes definetily indicate a malfunction in the component
[03:28] <joelbryan> erg0t_: what's v4vendetta?
[03:28] <dfc> i am trying to figure out which one to use. The sound is broken on my powerbook and i think it went haywire around the time i decided to try them both out.
[03:28] <aimaz> as_28: i don't know what to suggest I'm afraid
[03:29] <erg0t_> joelbryan, V4Vendetta is a user with a question
[03:29] <dfc> HymnToLife: why do you ask?
[03:29] <HymnToLife> when someon speaks about "choosing between both" in linux it's either KDE/Gnome, vi/emas or FF/Opera :p
[03:29] <as_28> do you know if ubuntu supports Ati Radeon Xpress Card?
[03:29] <HymnToLife> just curious
[03:29] <HymnToLife> anyway, as cafuego said, the best way to choose s to try them both
[03:29] <dfc> i really just want sound back on my dapper/powerbook:)
[03:30] <HymnToLife> hmm
[03:30] <HymnToLife> dapper is not stable yet
[03:30] <HymnToLife> maybe the problem come from this
[03:30] <ploom> rekrutacja, I have tried sunbird like a few months ago, but it still appears to be quite "beta" - last news on the web-page are since november 2005...
[03:30] <dfc> cafuego's advice was a little lacking. apparently ubuntu-desktop depends on one and not the other. I am just trying to get an idea of qhy
[03:30] <dfc> i realized dapper is in testing that is why i wanted to test it?
[03:31] <HymnToLife> well
[03:31] <ploom> rekrutacja, as I claimed already - even successfully synced some times through sync4j...
[03:31] <mebaran151> what version management system do you all use
[03:31] <notos> any one know a reason why Ubuntu does not detect my network but debian does? i have an SpeedStream 5200 router conected via ethernet
[03:31] <mebaran151> I've been using bazaar and it's pretty cool
[03:31] <HymnToLife> but then it's quite normal some stuff don't work
[03:31] <s|k> crimsun! are you around?
[03:31] <as_28> anyone can help me?
[03:31] <s|k> ubotu, alsa-tools
[03:31] <ubotu> s|k: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:31] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[03:31] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:31] <aimaz> mebaran151: i think svn is becoming the new standard for distributed version tracking
[03:31] <s|k> ubotu, alsa
[03:31] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:31] <aimaz> mebaran151: i quite like bazaar for private projects though
[03:31] <mebaran151> aimaz, seems big for personal projects
[03:32] <mebaran151> this is my little program
[03:32] <Snake__> Do we have any bash scriptors in here that can help me out?
[03:32] <mebaran151> so I found bazaar really convenient
[03:32] <aimaz> bazaar is fine then i imagine
[03:32] <crimsun> s|k: ?
[03:32] <aimaz> i use it for my dissertation
[03:32] <crouchingMonkey> where can i download the azureus .deb package for ubuntu, the wiki link doesnt seem to be working
[03:32] <mebaran151> aimaz, I was looking at Hg too
[03:32] <mebaran151> and Darcs
[03:32] <s|k> crimsun! what was that sound thing you were helping me with two days ago called?
[03:32] <clever`rev> what runlvl shuts off the x server in ubuntu?
[03:32] <crimsun> s|k: ENOCONTEXT
[03:32] <wotnarg> aimaz: Version control on a document? Interesting approach.
[03:32] <mebaran151> aimaz, that's a great idea!
[03:33] <s|k> crimsun, I thought it was alsa something
[03:33] <aimaz> wotnarg: well, I'm developing software at the moment
[03:33] <Amaranth> clever`rev: sudo apt-ger remove xserver-xorg
[03:33] <crimsun> s|k: are you talking about the bot factoid? 'alsa-source'?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> Snake__> those are quite rare
[03:33] <Amaranth> apt-get
[03:33] <mebaran151> I think I could also easily use bazaar to share a home directory over ftp
[03:33] <mebaran151> just commit when I'm done
[03:33] <aimaz> wotnarg: my report will be latex or docbook which is just text as well
[03:33] <Snake__> HymnToLife: its the only "language" i "know" :)
[03:33] <s|k> crimsun, alsa-source! that's it. thank you :)
[03:33] <cafuego> dfc: One is the default because someone (possibly at random) decided it should be so. That shouldn't stop you from trying the other one.
[03:33] <Amaranth> clever`rev: in other words, afaik, none
[03:33] <nickrud> clever`rev: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d./S13gdm
[03:33] <Gabe> So yeah... hard disk boot parameters, I'm guessing.  Right...?  My drive's pretty generic, though.
[03:33] <ploom> clever`rev, couldn't it be turned off just by /etc/init.d/gdm stop (or kdm) ??
[03:33] <Amaranth> clever`rev: you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:33] <clever`rev> testing:)
[03:34] <CarlFK> did someone need help connecitng to "My Documents" ?
[03:34] <vanderley> I do as TUTORIALS mount my NTFS partitions, But I can't acsess your files
[03:34] <nickrud> clever`rev: runlevels, ubuntu: man update-rc.d
[03:34] <aimaz> right going to bed got to be up for the BT guy for my new phone line, nn all
[03:34] <CarlFK> (someone did, I just cant remember which #channel)
[03:34] <wotnarg> Snake__: I'd help you, but I'm not a masterful bash scripter :p
[03:34] <Snake__> wotnarg: can I pm you, im looking for any help I can get
[03:35] <wotnarg> Snake__: go for it
[03:35] <s|k> crimsun, I tried to install xgl on breezy and completely destroyed x-server and gnome so I have to start from scratch
[03:36] <s|k> :(
[03:36] <nickrud> everyone should go thru linux from scratch once
[03:36] <ubuntu_> ummmm
[03:36] <aimaz> Snake__: have you seen a document called "the advanced bash scripting guide"?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> I kinda deleted the grub bootloader...
[03:36] <crimsun> s|k: it would have made more sense to use dapper for that sorta crack
[03:36] <wotnarg> s|k: Its probably not destroyed, just change the symlinks.
[03:36] <ploom> s|k, it is said to be work only on dapper
[03:36] <s|k> wotnarg, I think I destroyed it when I tried to reinstall x-server and gnome not knowing what I was doing
[03:36] <nickrud> !xgl
[03:36] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:36] <vanderley> mount NTFS partitions and read your files with a user not root! How Can I that??????????????/
[03:36] <wotnarg> s|k: ah ;)
[03:36] <s|k> yeah I didn't read the first sentence of the instructions
[03:37] <s|k> lol
[03:37] <nickrud> ollie ollie iin free
[03:37] <s|k> and lost everything :(
[03:37] <randabis> latest kernel updates to dapper made my ndiswrapper stop working :(...it still works on the old kernel but not the new one
[03:37] <ubuntu_> vanderley, you can't read anything thats NTFS
[03:37] <s|k> can't wait until dapper is stable to get xgl
[03:37] <s|k> looks really nice
[03:37] <mikearthur> can anyone think of a way of using find to check for any files over 2G in size?
[03:37] <XiCillin> how do you edit a users homedirectory through a shell?
[03:37] <randabis> i'm using dapper now...the amd64 version
[03:37] <mikearthur> randabis: stable?
[03:37] <ploom> s|k, yes it does and youll have to wait no more than a month now :-)
[03:38] <zorba64> vanderley: what error messages are you getting back?
[03:38] <nickrud> randabis: if you can, document your problems, and add bug reports to ndiswrapper on http://launchpad.net/malone
[03:38] <s|k> ploom, sweet :)
[03:38] <vanderley> a moment
[03:38] <vanderley> But I read when I'm ROOT
[03:38] <ubuntu_> how do i get my bootloader back so I can start my computer?
[03:38] <randabis> mikearthur, so far it seems to be, other than my latest ndiswrapper dilemma with the newest kernel update
[03:38] <ploom> s|k, at least dapper is told to be released in april :-)
[03:39] <mikearthur> randabis: what happened? ndiswrapper no like 2.6.15, right?
[03:39] <vanderley> The mensagem: The folder contents could not be displayed, You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda5".
[03:39] <zorba64> vanderley: user is not permitted to access NTFS file systems, and root can read only...that's how it is
[03:39] <randabis> nickrud, i'd be happy to, however I'm not sure what documentation is required
[03:39] <ubuntu_> anyone?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> !grub
[03:39] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:39] <vanderley> ok
[03:39] <randabis> mikearthur, actually, it works with 2.6.15-15, but not 2.6.15-17
[03:39] <nickrud> randabis: all they ask, is your best effort at reporting what doesn't work for you
[03:39] <mikearthur> randabis: random
[03:39] <DJ_tobias> could somebody help me install my wireless card?
[03:39] <vanderley> Then I can't accsess without root
[03:40] <vanderley> :(
[03:40] <DJ_tobias> it shows up under lspci
[03:40] <randabis> mikearthur, I have a bcm4318 wireless chipset
[03:40] <zorba64> vanderley: do sudo nautilus --no-desktop to browse as root user
[03:40] <vanderley> a moment
[03:40] <JonathanKent> !info libgtk1.2-dev
[03:40] <ubotu> libgtk1.2-dev: (Development files for the GIMP Toolkit), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-17build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1120 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB
[03:40] <ploom> vanderley, I always have one fat partition for such an inter-OS files
[03:40] <randabis> it appears that the latest amd64 kernel no longer has the bcm43xx module in it...it never worked for me anyway though
[03:40] <nickrud> vanderley: you do that, be cautious. You can screw your system, or command it
[03:40] <ploom> vanderley, FAT32 then...
[03:41] <vanderley> I see
[03:41] <mikearthur> randabis: working with dapper kernel?
[03:41] <vanderley> I'm a new user linux #)
[03:41] <XiCillin> how do you edit a users homedirectory through a shell?
[03:41] <vanderley> but I will try that
[03:41] <mikearthur> randabis: tried the native driverS?
[03:41] <nickrud> vanderley: then, be cautious 
[03:41] <s|k> ploom, I don't mind it if they release it late, as long as it works when they release it
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> XiCillin: Edit in what way?
[03:41] <ploom> s|k, its not even up to me to make it work :-(
[03:42] <XiCillin> change the home directory
[03:42] <Gabe> Ok, I'm still randomly trying boot parameters here, since I have no idea what's wrong, and I'm still getting "Killed".  **new user** so any help would be welcome.
[03:42] <Morg> Is there any way to run an executable so that I don't have to worry about it doing bad things in my system?
[03:42] <vanderley> reeeeeeeeeeee :)
[03:42] <HymnToLife> XiCillin> it's stored in /etc/passwd
[03:42] <vanderley> sudo nautilus --no-desktop THIS IS GOOD!
[03:42] <ploom> s|k, i just have to jabba-jabba on the channel here instead of making it really work :-)
[03:42] <vanderley> ehehehe
[03:42] <vanderley> thanks
[03:42] <zorba64> vanderley: have a look at the help> Ubuntu Starter Guide>windows partitions
[03:42] <XiCillin> i can just edit that directly?
[03:42] <nickrud> Morg: run it as non root user, it may screw that user, but not the computer
[03:43] <s|k> ploom, so you're working on it? what is it you work on?
[03:43] <vanderley> send-me the URL plis
[03:43] <HymnToLife> XiCillin> and maybe logout and log back in right after
[03:43] <zorba64> vanderley: you can as user, you will have to edit /etc/fstab and then remount the partition
[03:43] <HymnToLife> you need to edit it as root obviously
[03:43] <ploom> s|k, did I really wrote being working on it - no, sadly I dont have time for it
[03:43] <vanderley> hmmmm
[03:43] <s|k> ploom, oh :)
[03:44] <zorba64> vanderley: in gnome System > Help
[03:44] <ploom> s|k, im the big-mouthed guy on the channel :-(
[03:44] <mahangu> how do i untar a .tar.gz file in to a particular dir?
[03:44] <vanderley> oks
[03:44] <s|k> ploom, haha, I'm pretty wordy myself :)
[03:44] <randabis> mikearthur, the native driver is no longer in the kernel modules with the latest dapper amd64 kernel so I have not tried that...it never worked when I tried it before when it was still in the kernel anyway
[03:44] <cafuego> cd dir; tar xfz /part/to/bar/foo.tar.gz
[03:44] <mylo> mahangu, -C
[03:45] <mikearthur> randabis: why isn't it any more?
[03:45] <randabis> mikearthur, I have no idea...I searched for the module and it isn't there
[03:45] <zF> What's the fdisk command to chekc my partitions/disk space?
[03:45] <ubuntu_> guh
[03:45] <vanderley> Hey guys I have to go, Thank's for help-me zorba64
[03:45] <nickrud> zF: sudo fdisk -l
[03:45] <zF> ah
[03:45] <ubuntu_> try applications, system tools, g-parted
[03:45] <vanderley> good night for you
[03:45] <zF> I had to sudo
[03:46] <HymnToLife> zF> the man pge surely hs the answer in it
[03:46] <birdfish> Hey guys, I have the server edition of ubuntu installed.  But when I try to use the "make" command, I get the error "-bash make: command not found"
[03:46] <randabis> I'll be back in a moment..another kernel update was uploaded and I need to reboot to see if it fixes the ndiswrapper problem
[03:46] <HymnToLife> lol
[03:46] <nickrud> zF: and, df -h
[03:46] <birdfish> What is my problem?
[03:46] <cafuego> birdfish: Install 'build-essential'.
[03:46] <randabis> if not then I'll have to use the old kernel again like I am now
[03:46] <HymnToLife> birdfish> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:46] <birdfish> Thanks =D
[03:46] <cafuego> birdfish: Or the precompiled package of whatever it is you're trying to compile.
[03:47] <mikearthur> what filesystems are available in the Ubuntu installer? is XFS one of them?
[03:47] <birdfish> Alas, it is psyBNC, so I don't think that there is a precompiled version (unless maybe a .deb).  But I already searched apt-cache :)
[03:47] <cafuego> mikeyes
[03:48] <cafuego> You're not an ex-gentoo user looking to recompile stuff to make it fatser, right?
[03:48] <Kr4t05> Does anyone else have problems compiling GZlauncher?
[03:48] <birdfish> cafuego: no, just a newbie :)
[03:49] <birdfish> HymnToLife: now apt is asking me to insert my ubuntu 5.04 cd (but I upgraded to 5.10)  Why is it doing this?
[03:49] <cafuego> birdfish: No, that was aimed at mikearthur
[03:49] <HymnToLife> birdfish> certainly your sources.list is f***ed up
[03:49] <mikearthur> cafuego: no, I'm just curious about what CFLAGS they use
[03:49] <birdfish> :(
[03:49] <HymnToLife> could you paste it to pastebin ?
[03:49] <mikearthur> cafuego: I'm soon to be an ex-gentoo user, and am curious
[03:49] <raymond8066> i dont know how to install the xfire plugin for gaim, can someone help me
[03:49] <mikearthur> cafuego: I've used gentoo for several years, and I think I've just snapped today :(
[03:50] <cafuego> mikearthur: Mostly -O2
[03:50] <mikearthur> no -march/-mcpu?
[03:50] <cafuego> of course not.
[03:50] <mikearthur> I'm talking specifically AMD64
[03:50] <mahangu_> i got booted from a remote shell, and now when i screen -r, i cant see my irc session
[03:50] <mikearthur> -mcpu=i686 wouldn't be silly
[03:50] <mahangu_> but im still logged in on irc
[03:50] <randabis> great!
[03:50] <cafuego> mikearthur: it's be very silly, seeing as the binaries need to also run on 586 hardware.
[03:50] <raymond8066>  i dont know how to install the xfire plugin for gaim, can someone help me
[03:51] <randabis> mikearthur, kernel update fixed it :)
[03:51] <mikearthur> cafuego: -mcpu = good if you have the cpu, if you don't no negative effect
[03:51] <mikearthur> randabis: you now have native bcm43xx again?
[03:51] <randabis> mikearthur, no, I have ndiswrapper bcm43xx
[03:51] <crimsun> mikearthur: we've discussed this numerous times on ubuntu-devel; please read the mailing list archives from this year for the real issue
[03:52] <mikearthur> crimsun: sorry, I'm just curious
[03:52] <mikearthur> couldn't find anywhere on the forums
[03:52] <raymond8066> 02 i dont know how to install the xfire 03 plugin for gaim, can someone 04help me
[03:52] <randabis> mikearthur, the bcm43xx module is back though  where it should be in /lib/modules
[03:52] <Amaranth> mikearthur: -mcpu will make things slower on other cpus
[03:52] <mikearthur> crimsun: what compiler flags are used?
[03:52] <mahangu_> anyone? i cant resume the screen using screen -r, but i know it's there
[03:52] <mahangu_> i can see myself logged in via irssi
[03:52] <crimsun> mikearthur: nothing insane
[03:52] <mikearthur> Amaranth: ok, I'd been informed differently, excuse my mistakes
[03:52] <YrX> mikearthur, this plugin is for...
[03:52] <mikearthur> crimsun: I wouldn't expect it to be :) just curious
[03:52] <crimsun> mikearthur: that, too, is covered in the mailing list archives.
[03:53] <Amaranth> mikearthur: it tunes the instructions to work best on, say, a pentium 4
[03:53] <mikearthur> ubuntu-dev?
[03:53] <crimsun> +el
[03:53] <mikearthur> k
[03:53] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9801 <--- Error output when attempting to compile GZlauncher 1.06.4
[03:53] <LjL> mikearthur: i think it basically boils down to -O2 code for i386
[03:53] <YrX> mikearthur, do you now any plugin that shows a little notify window when a buddy sing on msn?
[03:53] <Amaranth> mikearthur: that's going to make things run (slightly) slower on an athlon because they do things differently
[03:53] <atlaswd> ?? ok
[03:54] <Gabe> Yep, still sitting at the boot prompt.  "Starting partitioner" stops at 29%, scrolls "Killed" until I reboot.  Being new to this, I know that it's probably a simple problem, but help with this would be fantastic.
[03:54] <YrX> like m$n messenger?
[03:54] <randabis> mikearthur, I can try to get the native driver working again if you would like...the problem with it last time was that it would cause a kernel panic if I inserted the required firmware into /lib/firmware and then modprobed bcm43xx (I made sure ndiswrapper wasn't loaded before doing so)
[03:54] <mikearthur> on AMD64, would it not make sense to use -march=k8 or whatever
[03:54] <Amaranth> mikearthur: there are pentium 4 based processors with amd64 extensions
[03:54] <Amaranth> mikearthur: so, same thing
[03:54] <atlaswd> How do I get 2 diffretn operating systems see each other? I am running ubuntu gnome desktop & windows 2000 & neither can see each other BUT I get internet on both
[03:55] <atlaswd> diffrent*
[03:55] <Kr4t05> atlaswd: The same machine?
[03:55] <IdleOne> !tell atlaswd  about mount
[03:55] <randabis> mikearthur, the kernel panic would then repeat itself every time I tried to boot the machine..the only way to fix it was to use the ubuntu cd and go into recovery mode and remove the firmware from /lib/firmware
[03:56] <atlaswd> dont give me a site it doesnt work, I tried that sire already
[03:56] <mikearthur> crimsun: any idea where what month I could find some of this stuff in the archives?
[03:56] <atlaswd> site*
[03:56] <etsb> hello..how come my ubuntu cannot be auto updated?
[03:56] <IdleOne> atlaswd>  sorry then
[03:56] <atlaswd> open terminal & type in apt-get update
[03:57] <atlaswd> that was wrong link
[03:57] <Amaranth> !samba
[03:57] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:57] <YrX> anyone knows a gaim plugin that clones the msn messenger behavior, when a buddy turns online?
[03:57] <randabis> i'm just glad I have everything working now..I think my next trick will be to try and get the xgl/compiz stuff working
[03:57] <Amaranth> YrX: I think gaim comes with one
[03:57] <atlaswd> I did al lthis nothing changed I cannot see either pc
[03:57] <crimsun> mikearthur: nov-dec '05 - feb '06
[03:57] <YrX> i guess gaim just play a sound when it happens
[03:57] <Kr4t05> !nfs
[03:57] <ubotu> I heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:58] <YrX> i tried to find it in preferences window
[03:58] <Amaranth> anyone here use gmail?
[03:58] <crimsun> mikearthur: you might want to weight your search toward the later quarters of last year
[03:58] <mikearthur> crimsun: thanks, any idea on subject/thread names?
[03:58] <LjL> mikearthur: note that Ubuntu *has* easy-to-compile source packages, so nobody forbids you from recompiling stuff if you really feel like wast^W spending the time. i just never really tried changing the flags, but i guess that wouldn't be too hard
[03:58] <randabis> hmm
[03:58] <zorba64> Amaranth: yup
[03:58] <randabis> nevermind on that... my fglrx died again
[03:58] <mikearthur> LjL: I'm not wanting to change stuff, just curious
[03:58] <YrX> i use gmail
[03:58] <Amaranth> zorba64: can you get in?
[03:58] <crimsun> mikearthur: I don't recall immediately
[03:58] <atlaswd> the crap is installed already SAMBA is running
[03:59] <vladuz976> anybody here using ubuntu on a laptop? can you recommend one?
[03:59] <jon_k> I was wondering how I can get java installed for azureus using ubuntu? I installed java-common and have no luck
[03:59] <atlaswd> I cant SEE networks
[03:59] <mikearthur> LjL: jsut, for an soon-to-be ex-gentoo user, CFLAGS used interest me
[03:59] <HymnToLife> vladuz976> anything from HP
[03:59] <zorba64> Amaranth: yep np
[03:59] <HymnToLife> had three, everything worked out of the box
[03:59] <Amaranth> !java
[03:59] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:59] <Amaranth> zorba64: odd, i can't get in
[03:59] <vladuz976> HymnToLife: how about compaq?
[03:59] <HymnToLife> same
[03:59] <Gabe> How do I go about installing ubuntu when I get the error message "Killed" when trying to start the disk partitioner?
[03:59] <HymnToLife> compaq is HP now
[03:59] <atlaswd> your not listening I have internet on ubuntu no network
[04:00] <etsb> iled to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[04:00] <etsb> ??
[04:00] <randabis> I think they didn't update restricted-modules with the latest kernel update thus fglrx isn't working
[04:00] <IdleOne> atlaswd>  try formulating a complete question
[04:00] <Toma-> I cant get my theme to load in moinmoin. what specific directory should it be put in?
[04:00] <vladuz976> HymnToLife: Dell? not good?
[04:00] <Amaranth> atlaswd: can you ping the other computer?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> dunno, never tried
[04:00] <atlaswd> HOW do I get this F'ing Network 2 work?
[04:00] <jayr> hello... I destroyed my ubuntu
[04:00] <HymnToLife> I tried on an Acer, was like hell
[04:00] <jayr> can anyone help
[04:00] <nathanj> atlaswd: whats wrong?
[04:00] <atlaswd> I got internet but cannot see pc's over network
[04:00] <HymnToLife> jayr> that's how you learn )
[04:01] <atlaswd> I have folder shared
[04:01] <nathanj> atlaswd: what are you trying to see?
[04:01] <IdleOne> jayr>  destroyed how?
[04:01] <Amaranth> jayr: what did you do?
[04:01] <jayr> yeah
[04:01] <HymnToLife> :)*
[04:01] <atlaswd> on both machines
[04:01] <Amaranth> atlaswd: can you ping the other computer?
[04:01] <HymnToLife> but ask your question :)
[04:01] <nathanj> atlaswd: ok you need to install samba
[04:01] <randabis> os[Linux 2.6.15-17-amd64-k8 x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-32 @ 796MHz]  mem[Physical : 1443MB, 83.2% free]  disk[Total : 230.10GB, 58.30% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955]  sound[ATIIXP - ATI IXP] 
[04:01] <jayr> well I was installing swat and couple of other things
[04:01] <randabis> oops
[04:01] <randabis> sorry about that
[04:01] <atlaswd> I am trying 2 network windows 2000 & ubuntu
[04:01] <jayr> now my gdm and x wont strart up
[04:01] <randabis> didn't mean to spam
[04:01] <nathanj> atlaswd: pm
[04:01] <jon_k> Amaranth, I tried sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common as per the instructions and i get this: E: Couldn't find package java-package
[04:01] <Amaranth> jayr: what errors do you get?
[04:01] <jon_k> everything else i have though
[04:02] <jayr> Amaranth: wait
[04:02] <etsb> ??Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[04:02] <jon_k> ah, need multiverse, nevermind
[04:02] <IdleOne> jon_k>  you need to enable repos
[04:02] <jayr> xinit server error
[04:02] <clever`rev> my friend cant get his X server to work the Xorg.0.log file is at http://clever.mine.nu/logfile.log
[04:02] <Amaranth> etsb: remove the cd from your sources.list
[04:02] <etsb> how?
[04:02] <HymnToLife> etsb> your sources.list is not good obviously
[04:02] <Amaranth> etsb: you can edit the repositories in synaptic, it's one of the menu items
[04:02] <atlaswd> I need 2 transfer but cant see anything between both pc's
[04:03] <Amaranth> atlaswd: you still didn't answer me
[04:03] <HymnToLife> atlaswd> samba ?
[04:03] <atlaswd> nat u got ignore on
[04:03] <etsb> Amaranth, what do i need to do?
[04:03] <atlaswd> samba on
[04:03] <DJ_tobias> its saying my wireless card is supposed to work right out of the box, but when i go to admin>networking its not listed, any ideas?
[04:03] <nathanj> atlaswd: look at pm
[04:03] <atlaswd> I told u everything is on
[04:03] <jon_k> IdleOne, any idea which repo I need to add? I don't see anything commented out in sources.list
[04:03] <LjL> mikearthur: fact is, most of the stuff you normally do isn't really cpu-bound. strong optimization could generally only make sense for, dunno, things like intensive 3d rendering, big-numbers calculations, etc
[04:03] <jayr> renistalled nvidia drivers, renistalled part of ex
[04:03] <atlaswd> i cant pm u back
[04:03] <Amaranth> etsb: are you in the repository editor in synaptic?
[04:03] <atlaswd> turn off ur ignore
[04:03] <jayr> I tink I dug even a bigger hole
[04:03] <jayr> ;)
[04:03] <mikearthur> LjL: yeh, games is the only area that really affects me
[04:04] <Amaranth> atlaswd: you need to register with nickserv to pm people
[04:04] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know if TwinView works with nVidia's beta drivers?
[04:04] <jayr> so kinda need a super repair system type of command
[04:04] <atlaswd> ok igot it 2 see it kinda
[04:04] <atlaswd> now I cannot login
[04:04] <IdleOne> !tell jon_k  about repos
[04:04] <DJ_tobias> sooo.. yeaaa.. anybody?
[04:04] <atlaswd> i have problem both ways
[04:04] <HymnToLife> the GUI repo editor stinks
[04:04] <Gabe> Ok, now it's scrolling a bunch of stuff, and saying "segmentation fault".  Feel free to laugh at my lack of technical expertise, but really, I do need help with this.
[04:05] <etsb> Amaranth, yes
[04:05] <nathanj> atlaswd: ok do you ahve smaba installed and running?
[04:05] <HymnToLife> it's so much easier to edit sources.list manually...
[04:05] <Amaranth> jayr: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:05] <Amaranth> err, wait
[04:05] <atlaswd> Yes
[04:05] <nathanj> atlaswd: can you ping the machines from each other?
[04:05] <etsb> Amaranth, now what?
[04:05] <atlaswd> I can see em now but I cannot access em
[04:05] <nathanj> atlaswd: please tab complete my nick so i can see you msgs
[04:05] <atlaswd> Yes
[04:05] <LjL> mikearthur: not so terribly many 3d games that i can see in the ubuntu reps anyway, so you'll end up compiling those anyway ;) but even then, the critical bottleneck is probably the graphics card and its software more than the CPU itself (though i do extremely little gaming and i can't really say that)
[04:05] <nathanj> atlaswd: ok do you get a login prompt?
[04:05] <Amaranth> jayr: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:05] <HymnToLife> atlaswd> can you login to the samba shares ?
[04:05] <Amaranth> etsb: uncheck the cd item
[04:06] <Gabe> Seriously... any time you're ready.  Laptop's right here next to me, I can try anything you say right away.
[04:06] <atlaswd> nat turn off your stupdi protection so I can msg you
[04:06] <atlaswd> stupid*
[04:06] <Amaranth> atlaswd: Register your nick with NickServ.
[04:06] <IdleOne> lmfao
[04:06] <nathanj> atlaswd: you need to registered with nickserv to send me pm's its not prot
[04:06] <vladuz976> how is wireless network supported on hp laptops?
[04:06] <atlaswd> I am getting provate messages from unrwistered crap
[04:06] <Amaranth> atlaswd: It isn't him, it's the server.
[04:06] <HymnToLife> Gabe> what's the matter ?
[04:06] <atlaswd> BAH
[04:07] <Gabe> When installing, the "preparing the disk partitioner" hangs at 29%.
[04:07] <HymnToLife> hmm that's weird
[04:07] <Gabe> Then it either scrolls "Killed" or a bunch of junk ending with "segmentation fault".
[04:07] <tritium> vladuz976: do you know which chipset you have?
[04:07] <Amaranth> Gabe: try reburning the CD at a slower speed
[04:07] <vladuz976> tritium: no i am trying to decide which laptop to buy
[04:08] <Gabe> Will do.
[04:08] <HymnToLife> vladuz976> if it can help, on my Presario R3000 it worked ootb
[04:08] <tritium> vladuz976: okay
[04:08] <vladuz976> HymnToLife: did you use one of the customized distos for hp?
[04:08] <HymnToLife> and I think there's a wiki page about laptops
[04:09] <HymnToLife> !laptops
[04:09] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:09] <tritium> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[04:09] <HymnToLife> !laptop
[04:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[04:09] <Nuni> I messed up planetpenguin-racer,  I stupidly enabled the experimental options in video.----could someone tell me how to reset the default.
[04:09] <HymnToLife> vladuz976> nop, it woked ootb (= out of the box = right after install)
[04:09] <vladuz976> HymnToLife: beautiful
[04:11] <HymnToLife> vladuz976> all of HP stuff works great on linux
[04:11] <saif> hello, is there an application like undelete for linux?
[04:11] <nickrud> saif: for all practical purposes, no
[04:12] <jayr> okay now its giving me a giving up error with two erros errno 111 unable to connect
[04:12] <jayr> and a errno3
[04:12] <JustinLynn> saif: not for ext3 filesystems. there might be some for ext2 or earlier.
[04:12] <jayr> no such proccess
[04:12] <southern> hi all
[04:12] <saif> nickrud, JustinLynn it's fat32
[04:12] <mylo> Nuni, if you dont need any saved score whatsoever. just delete the hidden configuration dir/file. usually in your /home/user/.penguinracer or such
[04:12] <nickrud> saif: if you accidentally deleted something, and it's not on your / partition, umount /dev, and
[04:13] <JustinLynn> saif, well then you might have a bit more luck :)
[04:13] <HymnToLife> saif> there's an app called "Easy REcovery" which works file
[04:13] <Nuni> mylo: thank you
[04:13] <HymnToLife> saif> see here : http://www.ontrack.com/
[04:13] <jayr> whats a good text browser?
[04:14] <jasz> firefox problem: how do i upgrade to 1.5? i downloaded the binary from mozilla's website and i get an error about missing libs... any ideas?
[04:14] <HymnToLife> editor* vi :)
[04:14] <mylo> jayr, links
[04:14] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[04:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:14] <jasz> great.. thank you
[04:14] <saif> JustinLynn, HymnToLife , nickrud thanx! i'll check it out! zip password recovery?! :) no i am not hacking somethn, securty module at uni gave us an image which are supposed to do forensics on, and i want to check if there are deleted files on the image, and there is a zip file password protected! hehe
[04:15] <nickrud> saif: trying to cheat, eh 
[04:16] <saif> nickrud, it's not chearing! gathering resources! :P
[04:16] <HymnToLife> I don't give such infos anymore
[04:16] <southern> I have an iptables question
[04:16] <southern> How can I hide a port from the internet???
[04:16] <nickrud> saif: I'd say the same
[04:16] <HymnToLife> since a guy used them to hack another guy and the other blamed it on me :/
[04:16] <HymnToLife> southern> use a firewall
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> :):):)
[04:17] <southern> HymnToLife: Could you write me an iptables rule? ::))))
[04:17] <Nuni> it was in (home)/.ppracer thanks...
[04:17] <HymnToLife> there are some GUIs for iptables
[04:17] <nickrud> southern: what do you mean, hide a port. you want to let some see it, but not others?
[04:17] <saif> HymnToLife, that actually happens? oh well bad luck!
[04:17] <HymnToLife> firestarter for example
[04:17] <etsb> hello...when i try to open Places>Network Servers it repeatedly asks for my password?
[04:17] <saif> anyways, thanx for the undelete stuff! bye
[04:17] <IdleOne> etsb>  it is supposed to
[04:18] <HymnToLife> IdleOne> not when opening network servers
[04:18] <southern> nickrud: I want to make invisible a port from the internet...
[04:18] <HymnToLife> it does when connecting to a password-protected server
[04:18] <etsb> IdleOne,  but it never stops asking
[04:18] <southern> actually port 139 is visible ...
[04:18] <IdleOne> etsb>  oh no that it shouldnt do heh
[04:18] <HymnToLife> what d'you mean "visible" ?
[04:19] <etsb> and i cant see any of the pc's on my network
[04:19] <nickrud> southern: so, make the port listen only to 127.0.0.1, that's as hidden as it gets
[04:19] <HymnToLife> etsb> can you ping them ?
[04:19] <etsb> yes i can
[04:19] <southern> I have two interface
[04:19] <southern> eth0 - LAN,  ppp0 - INTERNET
[04:19] <HymnToLife> and are there any servers running on them ?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> I'm assuming you're using samba
[04:20] <southern> if I nmap my samba is visible
[04:20] <southern> yes samba
[04:20] <etsb> HymnToLife, yes i have xp's and ubuntu's on this network
[04:20] <slew> hi, i got an error from another program: Terminal type `unknown' is not defined. anyone know how to fix it?
[04:20] <etsb> HymnToLife, yes one server
[04:21] <southern> nickrud how?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> maybe something to do with the workgroup name etsb
[04:21] <HymnToLife> it's quite while since I used samba
[04:21] <HymnToLife> FTP all the way for me now :p
[04:21] <nickrud> southern: define what service you want, and who you want to serve it to
[04:21] <narzy-> hi all
[04:21] <etsb> FTP?
[04:21] <virgule> I need a chmod expert! I have restored some files and folders from an old backup but the system won't let me write in there! What is the command to input so both the folders and files within get back to normal?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> yeah, I use a box as a FTP server to store my files
[04:22] <etsb> ic..
[04:22] <nickrud> virgule: sudo chmod -R <user>:<user> /path/to/dir
[04:22] <HymnToLife> virgule> try changing the owner
[04:22] <narzy-> virgule, if security isn't an issue you can chmod 777 everything in those folders
[04:22] <etsb> HymnToLife, do u have xp's and ubuntus on your network?
[04:22] <HymnToLife> it's probably set as root
[04:22] <Amaranth> nickrud: chown
[04:22] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:22] <narzy-> or use chown
[04:22] <nickrud> Amaranth: doh, sorry
[04:22] <narzy-> you might have to use sudo
[04:23] <etsb> HymnToLife, what is your fileserver running on?
[04:23] <HymnToLife> theFTP is more convenient than simple Sambas I think
[04:23] <HymnToLife> on a debian
[04:23] <nickrud> typing too fast, virgule make that chown 
[04:23] <virgule> chmod: invalid mode string: `virgule:virgule`
[04:23] <virgule> ooh
[04:23] <HymnToLife> but it works fine on ubuntu too (it was running ubuntu since about two weeks ago)
[04:23] <etsb> HymnToLife, was it easy to set up?
[04:23] <southern> nickrud: If somebody scan my ip 139/tcp and 445/tcp is visible and I want it to make unreachable/unvisible...
[04:23] <virgule> reading too slow.. i'll try tchown
[04:23] <Toma-> virgule, if youve destroyed the owner/mod's on all the files, youll find its near impossible to restore a whole filesystem's permissions
[04:23] <HymnToLife> yes if you don't want to set complex permissions
[04:24] <HymnToLife> and you don't need them if it's for local use only, do you ?
[04:24] <etsb> HymnToLife, yeah youre rite
[04:24] <nickrud> southern: as long as you are not accepting connections on those ports, hiding them is irrelevant if you accept ports anywhere else
[04:24] <etsb> HymnToLife, did u use xfce previously?
[04:24] <virgule> fortunatly it is just within ~/. roughly 1500 files within a dozen folders. Only <4kb stuffs ;)
[04:25] <nickrud> southern: it's not like they don't know there's a machine there
[04:25] <HymnToLife> I've used it for some days when I was sick of gome
[04:25] <init2null> I'm having an bizarre problem with nat and my network, which consists of a server and client ubuntu box. the server box accesses all sites perfectly, while the client cannot load some certain sites at all. it can load google but not ebay, for instance.
[04:25] <HymnToLife> now I've swithed to KDE :)
[04:25] <init2null> wget results for different sites tested on the server: http://www.crossmans.net/results_server.txt
[04:25] <init2null> wget results for different sites tested on the client: http://www.crossmans.net/results_using_nat.txt
[04:25] <init2null> NAT script: http://www.crossmans.net/nat.txt
[04:25] <etsb> HymnToLife, you used xfce?
[04:25] <LjL> nickrud: well *closing* the ports to the outside may still be a good idea... even if the listening service doesn't accept connections, who knows it really doesn't
[04:26] <IdleOne> etsb>  xfce is nice
[04:26] <HymnToLife> yes but only for a few days
[04:26] <HymnToLife> so I didn't get far into it
[04:26] <nickrud> LjL: I was thinking in terms of drop vs reject
[04:26] <IdleOne> etsb>  I do miss my desktop icons sometimes though
[04:26] <LjL> nickrud: i see
[04:27] <etsb> IdleOne, HymnToLife , im trying to set up a file server here in my office where i have some xp's and ubuntus
[04:27] <tritium> IdleOne: you can reenable them
[04:27] <HymnToLife> FTP would definitely be the best choice then I think
[04:27] <etsb> IdleOne, HymnToLife , ive tried samba and its too complicated..
[04:27] <IdleOne> tritium>  I can?
[04:27] <virgule> yay! Its done. chmod -R 755 ~/ did the trick!
[04:27] <virgule> happy all!
[04:27] <tritium> IdleOne: yes, through gconf
[04:27] <IdleOne> tritium>  explain please :)
[04:27] <etsb> IdleOne, HymnToLife , can anyone help me set up my fileserver FTP?
[04:28] <HymnToLife> no problem :)
[04:28] <IdleOne> etsb>  i dont have any experience with that sorry
[04:28] <etsb> HymnToLife, my server is currently using xfce
[04:28] <nickrud> LjL: corrections welcome
[04:28] <A10n> hey guys
[04:28] <tritium> IdleOne: you can set them to be displayed somewhere in the gconf editor.
[04:28] <LuisBG> need package xlibmesa-glu-dev (mentioned in a debian howto install) is ubuntu's libglu-mesa-dev the same?
[04:28] <slew> hi, i got an error from another program: Terminal type `unknown' is not defined. anyone know how to fix it?
[04:28] <HymnToLife> etsb> to run a server you need nothing but a good old command line :)
[04:28] <LjL> nickrud (or anyone, actually): care to have a quick look at my iptables rule by the way?
[04:28] <bimberi> IdleOne: apps/nautilus/desktop
[04:29] <A10n> what's the line if i want to add an unstable source to my apt source list? where do i get valid apt sources
[04:29] <V4Vendetta> LjL~ why not use firestarter
[04:29] <nickrud> LjL: sure, I've looked at some beforee.
[04:29] <A10n> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main unstable?  <- just a guess
[04:29] <LjL> V4Vendetta: don't have a GUI
[04:29] <V4Vendetta> LjL~ why not ..?
[04:29] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: use shorewall, it's canonically supported
[04:29] <A10n> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main unstable?  <- just a guess
[04:29] <IdleOne> tritium>  ok how do I get to gconf?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> LjL> of course it does !
[04:29] <V4Vendetta> nickrud~ canonically ?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> firestarter is just a GUI for iptables
[04:29] <randabis> hmm
[04:29] <LjL> V4Vendetta: 'cause that's my server. my own desktop computer is quite firewalled, as it can take no inbound connections at all
[04:29] <LjL> HymnToLife: it does - i don't
[04:29] <zorba64> A10n: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:30] <A10n> okay thanks zoexii
[04:30] <bimberi> IdleOne: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[04:30] <randabis> latest kernel update fixed ndiswrapper, but broke fglrx :( amd64
[04:30] <A10n> zorba64,
[04:30] <tritium> thanks, bimberi :)
[04:30] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: it's in main, canonical (the company) commits itself to supporting it
[04:30] <IdleOne> bimberi>  I dont have that Im using xfce
[04:30] <V4Vendetta> is shorewall better then firestarter ?
[04:30] <tritium> IdleOne: oh...
[04:30] <bimberi> tritium: and look it was all wasted :P
[04:30] <tritium> heh
[04:30] <LjL> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9802
[04:30] <etsb> HymnToLife, im a beginner, so i would appreciate if you could guide me with the commands..
[04:30] <IdleOne> tritium>  haha darn and I thought I could have them back
[04:30] <bimberi> IdleOne: gconf-editor
[04:31] <HymnToLife> etsb> cpm me :)
[04:31] <V4Vendetta> is shorewall better then firestarter ?
[04:31] <bimberi> IdleOne: nevermind
[04:31] <HymnToLife> pm*
[04:31] <atlaswd> HELP how do I login 2 windows through Linux now?
[04:31] <nickrud> LjL: I'm gonna love this, it'll be a test about how much I remember
[04:31] <etsb> HymnToLife, do you have messenger?
[04:31] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:31] <atlaswd> i got username & pass set acts liek it doesnt even connect
[04:31] <yezariael> hey folks
[04:31] <tritium> IdleOne: :)
[04:31] <tritium> V4Vendetta: please don't repeat
[04:31] <nickrud> rflol, over my head
[04:31] <LjL> V4Vendetta, HymnToLife: that's a debian machine actually, it's been running for like 3 years or so... of course i do have a gui on my pc ;) but every connection to the network goes through that box
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone successfully set up a Dell Photo Printer 720 in Ubuntu?  (Doing background research for a friend.)
[04:32] <nickrud> LjL: you see my last?
[04:32] <etsb> HymnToLife, and your messenger id is :)
[04:32] <yezariael> i just installed dapper drake, build 20050306. now i wanted to modprobe bcm43xx, but it says module not found? any help appreciated
[04:32] <HymnToLife> etsb> pm me so I give it to you :)
[04:32] <HymnToLife> for some reason I can't pm people
[04:32] <IdleOne> yezariael>  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[04:32] <Toma-> yezariael-- #ubuntu+1 plz
[04:32] <etsb> HymnToLife, i cant pm people either
[04:32] <tritium> did you register and identify?
[04:32] <etsb> lol
[04:32] <yezariael> alright
[04:32] <HymnToLife> lmao
[04:33] <nickrud> LjL: as soon as I saw POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE , my mind went blank
[04:33] <LjL> nickrud: ahah
[04:33] <IdleOne> bimberi>  I did say up there that I was using xfce..well implied sorta kinda :) but thanks for trying
[04:33] <etsb> HymnToLife, got it..i can see your pm
[04:33] <LjL> nickrud: that's not really firewalling, that's NAT, or at least it should
[04:33] <HymnToLife> ok :)
[04:33] <etsb> HymnToLife, but cannot reply
[04:33] <bimberi> IdleOne: yeah, i did come in late, so that was a little unfair sorry :)
[04:34] <IdleOne> bimberi>  no worries :)
[04:34] <LjL> nickrud: you see, that machine has four NICs (yes), eth0 goes to the internet, eth1, 2 and 3 to our computers. those rules simply make it route to them correctly
[04:34] <nickrud> LjL: exactly, and I have never run more than one machine. I know what I don't know, hopefully
[04:34] <LuisBG> need package xlibmesa-glu-dev (mentioned in a debian howto install) is ubuntu's libglu-mesa-dev the same?
[04:34] <etsb> ok
[04:35] <etsb> cya HymnToLife
[04:35] <LjL> nickrud: doesn't really matter, you could even ignore those lines i suppose... all i care about is that nothing can be listening on eth0 and accepting connections there
[04:35] <HymnToLife> bye
[04:35] <HymnToLife> and good night everyone :)
[04:35] <LjL> nickrud: inside my local network i can leave anything happening
[04:35] <bimberi> LuisBG: if you know the file(s) you need you can do a package contents search at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <Gabe> Nah, didn't work.  Thanks anyway.  Goodnight.
[04:35] <Toma-> 
[04:36] <etsb> can anyone else help me get started then?
[04:36] <nickrud> LjL: I help people keep one machine safe; I can read those iptables. I don't pretend to understand admin stuff
[04:36] <luke__> I'm trying to get test out beagle.  I want it to index a certain directory, and put the indexs into another.  I know I need to use beagle-build-index, but how?
[04:36] <zorba64> LuisBG: doesn't appear to exist : sudo apt-cach search
[04:37] <LjL> nickrud: ok, but then - by reading those iptables, would you say my machine is refusing anything inbound on eth0? that's what i'd call "safe" =)
[04:37] <atlaswd> yay I can network thx all for help
[04:37] <atlaswd> l8tr
[04:37] <LjL> nickrud: as for the other machines, i can just tell you that they aren't allowed to listen to inbound connections from the internet. i know they can't. i'm a little more doubtful about the server itself
[04:38] <V4Vendetta> what port does
[04:38] <nickrud> LjL: if you're in doubt, I am absolutly dam toutly the wrong person to ask, find some one who actually knows
[04:38] <V4Vendetta> webmin use?
[04:38] <slew> hi, i got an error from another program: Terminal type `unknown' is not defined. anyone know how to fix it?
[04:38] <randabis> !fglrx
[04:38] <ubotu> it has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:38] <LjL> nickrud: ok... i'm not going to sue you for being wrong anyway ;)
[04:39] <slew> hehe
[04:39] <nickrud> LjL: find me, then sue me
[04:39] <randabis> indeed, but the method in said wiki entry does not work for me :p
[04:40] <charles> which program creates the proc filesysteM?
[04:40] <as_28> hello
[04:40] <LjL> nickrud: if we were on IRCNet, i would have taken your nick in no time. funny as hell, when people do that. but i can't :>
[04:40] <as_28> how do i read form a pendrive in console mode?
[04:40] <randabis> hmm
[04:40] <randabis> I'm getting a nasty error in glxinfo and fglrxinfo
[04:41] <as_28> anyone?
[04:41] <nickrud> LjL: I've only been on freenet for any real time, I guess it's nice working on an ethical system ;)
[04:41] <randabis> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[04:42] <randabis> I had this working with the new kernel before the update...now fglrx no longer works. :/
[04:42] <randabis> I think the devs forgot to upload a new restricted-modules
[04:42] <LjL> nickrud: know what, if i didn't have this stupid ISP NAT, i'd just ask somebody i know to portscan me to death. but i can unless someone i know has my ISP too :\
[04:43] <nickrud> LjL: that's not actually a bad thing, at first blush
[04:44] <wonder> hey, i am despereately trying to get xmame running on ubuntu but i seem to fail all the time. i tried to install the gxmame package from synaptics wich didn't work. i tried to compile the source myself but failed. is there a place where i could get a precompiled xmame fr ubuntu that would install and work on the current version?
[04:44] <LjL> nickrud: reduces the possible attackers i suppose... but there are still quite a few attackers, and fewer people who can check
[04:44] <QMario> How do I undelete a recent file?
[04:44] <LjL> QMario: you don't, mostly
[04:44] <QMario> LjL, how would I?
[04:45] <nickrud> LjL: the isp has taken on the responsibility : name ip's to the isp
[04:45] <LjL> QMario: try "apt-cache search undel", but i'm afraid all that stuff will only work for ext2, if at all
[04:45] <QMario> LjL, what do you mean?
[04:45] <LjL> QMario: your computer is using the ext3 filesystem. ext2 is an older version of it. those undeletion tools won't work on ext3 for all i know
[04:46] <QMario> So which tool can I use?
[04:46] <QMario> LjL, how do you know that my computer is an ext2 filesystem?
[04:46] <LjL> nickrud: hah, once i sent abuse@isp the list of all Samba connections i received during the previous two days... like they care =)
[04:46] <LjL> QMario: ext3, not ext2. i know because every ubuntu uses ext3 by default
[04:47] <LjL> QMario: the answer is, as far as i know, *no tool*. no way to recover the files. others might have better advice, but i never heard anything different about this
[04:47] <nickrud> LjL: try to find your own dabaR on your isp, you need a knowledgable advocate
[04:47] <Kr4t05> o.o
[04:47] <LjL> heh
[04:47] <southern> what does it mean (nmap)?? -> 135/tcp filtered msrpc
[04:48] <LjL> southern: hmm... that TCP port 135 (assigned to service msrpc) is filtered ;)
[04:48] <chuckyp> wow wine 56 megs.
[04:48] <QMario> Is there a way to find out which files were deleted?
[04:48] <southern> LjL: could you explain me 'filtered'?
[04:48] <QMario> I can be sure that the system logs it somewhere.
[04:48] <LjL> southern: i would if i actually knew ;)
[04:49] <southern> anybody? :D
[04:49] <QMario> LjL, really?
[04:49] <LjL> QMario: if you removed them from the shell, it logs that in your .bash_history, inside your home dir
[04:49] <QMario> I removed from my folder by accident.
[04:49] <QMario> I was even in a different directory.
[04:50] <QMario> LjL, so the system doesn't log deleted files?
[04:50] <LjL> QMario: no, it doesn't
[04:50] <QMario> Isn't it a "rm " action?
[04:50] <QMario> LjL, why not?
[04:50] <r0x0r> Filtered means that a firewall, filter, or other network obstacle is blocking the port so that Nmap cannot tell whether it is open or closed.
[04:50] <unperson> I'm trying to get packages from the PLF repository but having some trouble.  I added the line, "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" to my source.list and apt-get updated, but I can't seem to install any of the packages from that repository.
[04:50] <LjL> QMario: if you actually remove them by typing "rm", that is logged so
[04:51] <chuckyp> Someone know how to disable bluetooth from attempting to start on boot?
[04:51] <r0x0r> southern: man nmap
[04:51] <southern> r0x0r: thanks anyway :P
[04:51] <DaSkreech> OK
[04:51] <DaSkreech> If I create a connection to a server
[04:51] <r0x0r> np
[04:51] <DaSkreech> how do I get rid of it?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> From the Places menu?
[04:51] <logical_mark> Hey guys, I want to install Eclipse to program in java, but I am overwhelmed with all the options in SPM. Some help?
[04:52] <Fermi> /j #debian
[04:52] <DaSkreech> .o0(SPM)?
[04:52] <shiv> what is the equivalent of ipconfig in linux?
[04:52] <Fermi> /join #debian
[04:52] <Fermi> Ohh...my god..
[04:52] <chuckyp> Can someone tell me which version of wine breezy installs wine --version yields a number that isn't correct for wine.
[04:52] <unperson> shiv: ifconfig
[04:52] <LjL> QMario: best you can do, i think, is    cat /dev/hda | grep -A 100 -B 100 "some-text-string-that-was-in-your-files" >recovered
[04:52] <shiv> thanks
[04:52] <DaSkreech> shiv: ifconfig
[04:53] <LjL> QMario: you might get some bits and pieces of your files into the "recover" file. you can't really do anything better
[04:53] <unperson> shiv:  The equivalence probably only goes so far, though.
[04:53] <QMario> LjL, the files were video files.
[04:53] <IdleOne> Wine 20050725
[04:53] <IdleOne>   chuckyp
[04:53] <QMario> LjL, no hope?
[04:53] <LjL> QMario: no, i think not
[04:53] <chuckyp> IdleOne, yeah thats not a proper wine version number.
[04:53] <IdleOne> chuckyp>  thats what I got ;/
[04:53] <Celeste> I got a problem with "realplayer"
[04:53] <QMario> Why doesn't Linux come with an Undo
[04:53] <QMario> Delete?
[04:54] <chuckyp> IdleOne, wine versions are around 0.9.7 etc... 0.9.8 is current i believe so what is 20050725?
[04:54] <nickrud> Celeste: what realplayer problem
[04:54] <saif> QMario, good question! :) iwas just wondeing about that 20 mins ago!
[04:54] <LjL> QMario: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[04:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chuckyp: They're at 0.9.9 now
[04:54] <jeff2> QMario, gnome, at least, will move items to the trash by default, allowing you to undelete items
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> QMario: You could always alias rm to mv to .Trash I suppose; not sure if that would cause problems.
[04:54] <IdleOne> chuckyp>  beats me but I just installed wine 30 minutes ago
[04:54] <unperson> QMario: It does.  it's called the trash can.
[04:54] <Celeste> the site   http://www.real.com/linux/   offers a "bin"  file  to download which produces an error when I try to install it.   It even does not start.  So I got the RPM file and made a DEB file out of it by using the program  "alien"  ... I installed the DEB file with   dpkg -i   and it worked
[04:55] <etsb> what is the best any easiest way to create a ftp server on xfce with xp's and ubuntu's as clients?
[04:55] <r0x0r> chuckyp: dpkg -s wine
[04:55] <Celeste> my question is:
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chuckyp: 20050725 is from the older versioning system... the 0.9.* labelled ones are newer
[04:55] <Celeste> how do I start realplayer now?
[04:55] <unperson> QMario: It's not strictly part of the OS, but it's in most desktops.
[04:55] <bimberi> chuckyp: (preventing bluetooth startup) 'sudo update-rc.d -f bluez-utils remove'
[04:55] <Celeste> nickrud, thank you for your attention
[04:55] <fn_> Celeste: type realplay on console
[04:55] <jeff2> does Ubuntu come with scanner support by default, or do I have to build the scanner kernel module myself?
[04:55] <nickrud> Celeste: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[04:55] <chuckyp> PuMpErNiCkLe, pooop need to remove it then.  Why are they so far behind on wine?
[04:55] <Celeste> fn_, that was my very first try...    bash: realplay: command not found
[04:56] <V4Vendetta> Celeste~ /usr/bin/realplayer ?
[04:56] <tritium> jeff2: at least some are supported by default
[04:56] <Celeste> V4Vendetta, /usr/bin/...  is the same as typing  "realplayer"
[04:56] <Celeste> bash: /usr/bin/realplayer: No such file or directory
[04:56] <saif> in the forums under each users name there are 5 coffee beans some yellow some brown, what are those? what use are they?
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chuckyp: Because wine has moved so far ahead since Breezy was released half a year ago. :)
[04:56] <fn_> Celeste: try updatedb then locate realplay
[04:56] <Celeste> nickrud, I'm gonna read that
[04:56] <jeff2> tritium: it seems the "scanner" module isn't installed (lsmod), do some scanners require it and some not?
[04:56] <nickrud> Celeste: I wrote it, I hope it works 
[04:56] <etsb> what is the best any easiest way to create a ftp server on xfce with xp's and ubuntu's as clients?
[04:57] <tritium> jeff2: not sure
[04:57] <saif> isnt it realplay?
[04:57] <r0x0r> etsb: apt-get install vsftpd
[04:57] <V4Vendetta> etsb~ better off using ssh
[04:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell jeff2 about scanning
[04:57] <danielnewbie> does anyone know how I can make the CD player work in Xfce?
[04:57] <etsb> ?
[04:57] <Amaranth_> saif: just little things to show what level a user is
[04:57] <Amaranth_> saif: for instance, mine mean "Developer"
[04:58] <tritium> etsb: there are several ftp servers, but I'd recommend ssh also
[04:58] <JonathanKent> hello where i can install this UCvsFolders.o
[04:58] <saif> so i assume u have all 5 black ones?
[04:58] <Celeste> nickrud, according to the text I should have done it completly different.... my question to you is:   the Alien-Transformed RPM is installed as DEB right now.   How do I have to remove it?
[04:58] <saif> Amaranth, i assume u have all black ones?
[04:58] <Celeste> nickrud, before I do what you wrote I should remove the old package afaik
[04:58] <V4Vendetta> Celeste~ sudo dpkg -r packagename
[04:58] <danielnewbie> I'm trying to play a music cd, and it won't go to any track. It reads the disc and has found out the name of the artist and everything, but it won't play
[04:59] <nickrud> Celeste: V4Vendetta has the right syntax
[04:59] <fn_> danielnewbie: your sound card work correctly ? test first
[04:59] <Celeste> Removing realplayer ...
[04:59] <Celeste> dpkg - warning: while removing realplayer, directory `/usr/local' not empty so not removed.
[04:59] <JonathanKent> i need the cvs where i can install?
[04:59] <Celeste>  /usr/local  ... !?
[04:59] <nickrud> Celeste: not a  problem
[04:59] <Celeste> okay... *g*
[04:59] <danielnewbie> no, its not working, but I was hoping to just play out of the jack in the front of the player
[04:59] <etsb> r0x0r, tritium ,v4vendetta : all i need is to file share from my server to my xp's and ubuntu clients..i dont want anything complicated to set up....
[04:59] <jetscreamer> Celeste: that is fine, you don't want it removed
[04:59] <Celeste> sorry I'm kinda newbie
[05:00] <JonathanKent> ?
[05:00] <etsb> r0x0r, tritium ,v4vendetta : i have very little computing evperience and knowledge..
[05:00] <QMario> Thank you everyone!!! ;) I probably wouldn't have watched those movies again anyway!!! ;)
[05:01] <vb_coder> can somebody please help? i just installed ubuntu and x wont start. here is my xorg.conf and the log from x http://64.238.155.163/
[05:01] <etsb> btw my server is set up on xfce
[05:01] <Razor-X> If I want to assign a machine on my LAN a random IPv6 address that remains within the network, what parameters should I follow?
[05:01] <Celeste> nickrud, V4Vendetta and jetscreamer,  not to forget fn:    I thank you for the free support that you offer here,  its something I see as special and not normal that you all help here
[05:01] <Celeste> thank you
[05:01] <shiv_> GAIM close button closes all windows instead of minimizing to panel. How do I set that up?
[05:02] <nickrud> Celeste: I live for your type of thank you, thank you  ;)
[05:02] <etsb> what is the best any easiest way to create a ftp server on xfce with xp's and ubuntu's as clients?
[05:02] <etsb> any suggetions?
[05:02] <A10n> any security configuration in ubuntu? like levals? ignore ping? like in the old mandrake products?
[05:02] <Razor-X> shiv_: It's a plugin in gAIM, I believe.
[05:02] <Celeste> nickrud ;-)
[05:02] <Razor-X> shiv_: Enable the plugin, and select the type of tray icon you want (KDE, Gnome, whatever your Window Manager is, basically.)
[05:02] <fn_> etsb : vsftpd is good
[05:03] <nickrud> Celeste: and,I have some bottom land for sale
[05:03] <intelikey> <vb_coder that ip is unaccessable from here.
[05:03] <Celeste> nickrud, on what part of the world?
[05:03] <nickrud> um, Antarctica?
[05:03] <Celeste> ;/
[05:03] <Celeste> sorry... no need for :(
[05:03] <Celeste> If you'd have something in California .... *g*
[05:04] <vb_coder> !paste
[05:04] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[05:04] <nickrud> Celeste: I'm moving back to Cal soon, so maybe you can just buy me a beer
[05:04] <Amaranth_> nickrud: that IP works from the moon
[05:04] <Amaranth_> nickrud: Antarctica's connection sucks
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> Celeste: I might be able to offer you some five-year old deeds to a narrow strip running down the entire coast...
[05:04] <Celeste> heh nickrud if I get a greencard I will come over there right away
[05:05] <nickrud> Amaranth_: not if you have *the* connection
[05:05] <djpowder> Is there any way to add a file type?  File Browser thinks some of my wavpack files (*.wv) are plain text files, and won't open them. >:O
[05:05] <Amaranth_> djpowder: open with
[05:05] <Amaranth_> right click them
[05:05] <djpowder> i'd rather be able to double click them, though :(
[05:06] <logical_mark> Hey guys, I want to install Eclipse to program in java, but I am overwhelmed with all the options in SPM. Some help?
[05:06] <r0x0r> !vsftpd
[05:06] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0x0r
[05:06] <Celeste> nickrud, I still do not get the effect I try to get ....  You know amazon?  Stupid question,  of course you know.   When you browse the albums there,  they offer   *.rmm files ...  I clicked on "OPEN"  in  Opera (the browser)  and  KDE always tries to start it using  kate,  the text editor
[05:06] <nickrud> Celeste: ok, just buy someone a beer, it'll get around
[05:06] <Celeste> nickrud, oookay :)
[05:07] <JonathanKent> Help !!! where i can install de cvs?
[05:07] <JonathanKent> please
[05:07] <rukuartic> Looking for CVS in german?
[05:07] <nickrud> Celeste: I can, with all due respect, say what's Opera? or KDE?
[05:07] <nickrud> rflol
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Is it possible to invite ubotu into other channels at will, or do you control his movements directly?
[05:07] <Celeste> nickrud, heh ... gnome? *g*
[05:08] <Celeste> nickrud, I have KDE installed here because gnome made me so unhappy
[05:08] <shiv> Razor-X: The plugin is clicked already but it just minimizes to panel on minimize. ON CLOSE BUTTON it just closes
[05:08] <etsb> can someone help me set up vsftpd?
[05:08] <A10n> can anyone get help in this channel or what?
[05:08] <JonathanKent> CVS in german ?
[05:08] <Celeste> nickrud, gnome gave real translucency to everyone but me
[05:08] <A10n> etsb, don't bother, they won't answer you
[05:08] <JonathanKent> Help !!! where i can install de cvs?
[05:08] <tritium> A10n: you have ot ask a question first
[05:08] <nickrud> Celeste: to be honest, I first got into gnome around 1.0, and have watched it mature. In a lot of ways, it's limited my horizons, but expanded them in others
[05:08] <djpowder> lol
[05:08] <A10n> i did
[05:08] <rukuartic> Anyone have a quick and easy way of giving a user membership in another group?
[05:08] <etsb> al0n yes they will
[05:09] <A10n> a couple of time on different days. never got a response
[05:09] <edward0> Celeste: hi :)
[05:09] <Razor-X> shiv: Not sure (it's been quite a while since I've used) but if you dig in the options, maybe you'll find it.
[05:09] <fn_> etsb: sudo apt-get install vsftpd and edit the vsftpd.conf
[05:09] <etsb> can someone help me set up vsftpd?
[05:09] <vb_coder> can somebody please help? i just installed ubuntu and x wont start. here is my xorg.conf and the log from x. i pasted Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf and the output from lspci here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9804
[05:09] <Razor-X> Sorry, I'm not being much help, heh.
[05:09] <A10n> here is todays question
[05:09] <nickrud> rukuartic: sudo adduser <usr> <group>
[05:09] <edward0> Celeste: no more gDesklets ?
[05:09] <A10n> any security configuration in ubuntu? like levals? ignore ping? like in the old mandrake products?
[05:09] <intelikey> A10n or what....   you have but to ask.  and if anyone reads your question that knows the answer you will hear from them.
[05:09] <Celeste> it it helps that I speak german I can help  ... this  CVS  guy
[05:09] <mikere> rukuartic: edit /etc/group?
[05:09] <Celeste> german is my native language
[05:09] <cyne> how do i get totem to play movies and music?
[05:09] <etsb> fn_ will you help me set up on a step by step basis?
[05:09] <Celeste> whoever wanted this german CVS
[05:09] <vb_coder> intelikey,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9804
[05:09] <Celeste> edward0, yeah these bad, bad gDesklets
[05:09] <rukuartic> vb_coder, Using an old computer? Does it have a good graphics card? Does it have A graphics card?
[05:09] <edward0> Celeste: what was so bad about gnome?
[05:09] <djpowder> A10n, install firestarter
[05:09] <tritium> A10n: you can install tools to help you setup a firewall.  I've never used mandrake, so I don't know what you're referring to.
[05:09] <edward0> or is
[05:10] <fn_> etsb: vsftpd is easy to set up, install first
[05:10] <A10n> okay thanks djpowder
[05:10] <Celeste> I loved them ... 'till they always had a BLACK box in the background when I  brought them to the front using  SHIFT + F12
[05:10] <Celeste> edward0, the black boxes
[05:10] <JonathanKent> Where i can download the CVS :(
[05:10] <JonathanKent> Celeste what?
[05:10] <etsb> fn_install on my server pc ?
[05:10] <edward0> Celeste: black boxes?
[05:10] <vb_coder> rukuartic, the computer is a 333mhz and the video card is pasted at that website. it should be in the output from lspci.
[05:10] <tritium> JonathanKent: did you even search for cvs packages in synaptic or apt-cache search?
[05:10] <fn_> etsb: yes. did you said that you need ftp server right ?
[05:10] <JonathanKent> apt no
[05:10] <A10n> HP Linux Printing and Imaging System   <- how can i stop things like this from starting up? and other things in  so i don't have to do /etc/init.d/something stop
[05:10] <JonathanKent> !find cvs
[05:11] <Celeste> JonathanKent, is this a question of not understanding a german text or how can I help you?  I speak german if it helps
[05:11] <Celeste> edward0, if you press  SHIFT + F12  you wll see the gDesklets in the front, right?
[05:11] <tritium> A10n: update-rc.d can be used for that purpose
[05:11] <JonathanKent> i need cvs for download
[05:11] <saif> !powernowd
[05:11] <ubotu> saif: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:11] <edward0> Celeste: not using gDesklets :D
[05:11] <A10n> okay thanks guys
[05:11] <rukuartic> vb_coder, Hmm... thats odd...
[05:11] <slew> hi. im trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS?highlight=%28CVS%29 but when i try to install the .deb package i get this: Upgrade refused, exiting. whats wrong?
[05:11] <Celeste> around / behind every  <bad word>  little gDesklets was a black background then
[05:11] <rukuartic> vb_coder, But you get the login and all that nice stuff?
[05:11] <tritium> JonathanKent: search for the package you want, and install it.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Can I remove a server from the Places menu?
[05:12] <JonathanKent> for example cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gnuworld login
[05:12] <A10n> thank thank thanks tahnks guys!
[05:12] <JonathanKent> !info cvsaccess
[05:12] <edward0> Celeste: maybe you would like ratpoison -_- apt-cache search ratpoison
[05:12] <edward0> :D
[05:12] <JonathanKent> !info  adduser-plugin-cvsaccess
[05:12] <ubotu> adduser-plugin-cvsaccess: (Manage access to CVS repositories via pserver), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[05:12] <Celeste> edward0, what is ratpoison?  the name makes me think of  something bad
[05:13] <nickrud> ratty window manger
[05:13] <edward0> Celeste: apt-cache search ratpoison :)
[05:13] <jroes> heya, anyone know how to make a read-only fs accessible by users other than root?
[05:13] <Razor-X> Ratpoison?!
[05:13] <Razor-X> Someone other than me uses ratpoison?!
[05:13] <Razor-X> WOOO! :P.
[05:13] <vb_coder> rukuartic, a login without graphics
[05:13] <edward0> Razor-X:  very much so :)
[05:13] <nickrud> Razor-X: I am disappointed 
[05:13] <Installer36> Razor what is it
[05:13] <jroes> I have a filesystem mounted as readonly (I'm not even sure why), and I want to be able to access it without using sudo [it has my music library and stuff on it] 
[05:13] <Razor-X> nickrud: Are you know? Tsu.
[05:13] <jrm4_> yo..I'm interested in the ratpoison, don't know how to get started w/it
[05:13] <Razor-X> Installer36: It's a Window Manager.
[05:13] <edward0> Razor-X:  you're not in #ratpoison :(
[05:14] <jeff2> jroes, mount -o uid=1000 (or your user id)
[05:14] <nickrud> as if you'd care, : )
[05:14] <jroes> awesome, thanks jeff2
[05:14] <Razor-X> jrm4_: Start it up. And use ``C-t h'' and read the thing that pops up.
[05:14] <Razor-X> nickrud: *now.
[05:14] <Razor-X> Tsu.
[05:14] <rukuartic> vb_coder, didja try typing "startx"?
[05:14] <slew> hi. im trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS?highlight=%28CVS%29 but when i try to install the .deb package i get this: Upgrade refused, exiting. whats wrong?
[05:14] <Celeste> edward0, I am fine with  kde / icewm now *g*
[05:14] <Celeste> but thank you for the tip
[05:14] <jetscreamer> !ait
[05:14] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer
[05:14] <intelikey> vb_coder under the "generic monitor" section   try searching on http://monitorworld.com for your monitor and put the correct   HorizSync  VertRefresh   then restart x.
[05:14] <jetscreamer> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:14] <nickrud> Razor-X: lol, I figure I have to go do some googling to get it
[05:14] <edward0> Celeste: :D
[05:14] <pudland> apache2 help pls, just cant give it to the public
[05:15] <edward0> Celeste: you might like openbsd, xfce, or fvwm :D
[05:15] <Razor-X> Celeste: Well, if that overburdened, wrist-taxing window manager floats your boat.... :P.
[05:15] <Razor-X> edward0: *OpenBox
[05:15] <edward0> err openbsd/openbox :D
[05:15] <edward0> both are quite nice though :D
[05:15] <jrm4_> Actually a question--so, I did the trick to put a terminal (Eterm) in the "background" in gnome--does icewm support something like this? I can't get down with enlightement; it's all weird.
[05:15] <edward0> <- window manager junkie :\
[05:16] <vadersolo> greetings
[05:16] <JonathanKent> !info cvs
[05:16] <ubotu> cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-13ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1407 kB, Installed size: 3016 kB
[05:16] <JonathanKent> am
[05:16] <vadersolo> is there a way to do a net-install in ubuntu?
[05:16] <edward0> Celeste: you have startbar for kde?
[05:16] <intelikey> vb_coder also see the wiki on ati
[05:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !network-install
[05:16] <intelikey> !ati
[05:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, network-install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[05:16] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:16] <intelikey> vb_coder ^
[05:16] <jeff2> what is the best way to let my user account write to usbfs, so I can use my scanner without being root? the sane faq has no mention of usbfs (only udev), and I see no mention of usbfs in /etc/fstab
[05:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vadersolo: What ubotu said.
[05:17] <nickrud> vadersolo: there's not an approved method, but if you know debootstrap, you could probably manage
[05:17] <jeff2> I used chmod on /proc/bus/usb, but there has to be a better way
[05:17] <lukey0> does the cd/dvd creator in ubuntu burn .img disk images?
[05:18] <Coag> would anyone here possibly be able to help me with XGL
[05:18] <jeff2> lukey0, yes
[05:18] <Coag> I know the channel for it, but it's permanently dead pretty much
[05:18] <Coag> been in it for three days now
[05:18] <rukuartic> hmm... so alright, I changed groups for myself. Now I'm guessing I'd kinda need to login/out to get my groups reset?
[05:18] <fn_> lukey0: yes
[05:18] <lukey0> jeff2: i cant seem to get it to recognize the image as burnable
[05:18] <saif> i am currently doing something that i am sure will need all my cpu, powernowd tells me i have 4 steps (800 - 2000MHz) how can i make use of all my 2000Mhz
[05:18] <saif> ?
[05:18] <lukey0> with .iso i can just right click on the file and click burn
[05:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Coag: You should get better help on that in #ubuntu+1 - IIRC, Xgl is Dapper-only.
[05:18] <jeff2> lukey0, wait, what format is that? just a raw image dump?
[05:18] <etsb> fn_ yes i need a ftp server for my xp's and ubuntu clients
[05:18] <aztek> short of recompiling my kernel is there a way to have a piece of hardware load an alternate driver
[05:18] <A10n> update-rc.d hplip remove
[05:18] <A10n> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/hplip exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)  is this safe to do? use the force flag?
[05:18] <lukey0> im not sure exactly
[05:18] <Coag> My bad :P I thought I clicked that tab
[05:18] <slew> hi. im trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS?highlight=%28CVS%29 but when i try to install the .deb package i get this: Upgrade refused, exiting. whats wrong?
[05:19] <vladuz976> anybody have experience with MSI or asus notebooks and ubnuntu
[05:19] <nickrud> jeff2: look into /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules
[05:19] <jeff2> lukey0, you should be able to go to Applications->Sound & Video ->k3b, then file->open
[05:19] <fn_> etsb: ok. type "sudo apt-get install vsftpd" first to install the daemon
[05:20] <lukey0> yeah that doesnt seem to work either
[05:20] <lukey0> its a dvd image
[05:20] <jeff2> nickrud: no such file exists on my system, and my scanner is on usbfs, not udev (at least, it is nowhere I can see)
[05:20] <nickrud> jeff2: it used to be simple
[05:20] <V4Vendetta> does xmms2 have any version out yet?
[05:20] <jroes> jeff2: should I have mentioned it's an ntfs partition?  I think the regular rules don't apply :x
[05:20] <lukey0> im going to try changing the extension to iso.. .maybe thatll work haha
[05:20] <nickrud> ls /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules jeff2 cut and pasted from a terminal
[05:20] <jeff2> nickrud, yea, I don't know why they added usbfs when udev was working fine
[05:20] <drcode> hi all
[05:20] <jeff2> nickrud, ls: /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules: No such file or directory
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Can I remove selections from the Places menu?
[05:21] <drcode> is there other ver then breezy?
[05:21] <drcode> I mean update then breezy
[05:21] <nickrud> jeff2: I'm on dapper, I had a brain freeze
[05:21] <Amaranth_> !dapper
[05:21] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[05:21] <drcode> k
[05:21] <drcode> thanx
[05:21] <trae> alright, who here is an "old" geek.... and remembers a TV show from the 70's.  There was a Japanese kid in it.... and his mom and dad were "Goldr" and "Silvr" or something.
[05:21] <intelikey> cut and paste from a terminal ?????    how do you cut from a terminal ?
[05:21] <trae> heh
[05:21] <trae> OT I know.
[05:21] <JonathanKent> !info cscvs
[05:21] <ubotu> cscvs: (System for integrating CVS repositories into Arch archives), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 1.0pre25.patch.79-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[05:21] <drcode> I have problem with exchange evolution
[05:22] <jeff2> jroes, you can use the mount options to set the uid and umask of all the files on the system. they will be used instead of any ntfs permissions
[05:22] <nickrud> intelikey: um, drag, and middle click?
[05:22] <A10n> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/hplip exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)  is this safe to do? use the force flag?
[05:22] <intelikey> nickrud that doesn't cut.     it copies.
[05:22] <Amaranth_> nickrud: cut would remove the text from the source
[05:22] <aztektum> bah
[05:22] <jroes> jeff2: weird, I changed it to "defaults,users" in fstab, but it still won't let me cd into it
[05:22] <trae> I remember watching this show in like... 1978 or something.  It was sorta the pre-cursor to transformers or something.  These people would change into rockets....
[05:22] <nickrud> intelikey: Amaranth_ I do hate pedantics ; )
[05:23] <nickrud> especially when they ar right
[05:23] <jeff2> jroes, here is my line from /etc/fstab for my windows ntfs partition: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,uid=1000,fmask=111        0    0
[05:23] <Amaranth> trae: I wasn't born yet, sorry.
[05:23] <intelikey> so use proper syntax and you won't notice them nickrud
[05:23] <trae> Amaranth, heh
[05:23] <A10n> jeff2, what about it
[05:23] <trae> Amaranth, I was 10 at the time.
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <DJ_tobias> could anybody help me install my geforce fx 5500 video card? having an extremely hard time with it..
[05:23] <jroes> jeff2: ah, I guess users maybe doesn't work like I thought, or whatever was in defaults took precedence
[05:23] <nickrud> intelikey: but, context is everything
[05:23] <jroes> jeff2: thanks
[05:23] <Amaranth> trae: you're almost as old as my mom :P
[05:23] <trae> Amaranth, heh
[05:24] <lukey0> jeff2: it worked by changing the extension to .iso... how can i associate .img with the cd/dvd creator?
[05:24] <Amaranth> jroes: it's 'user'
[05:24] <jeff2> jroes, yea, users just lets anyone mount/unmount the filesystem
[05:24] <trae> Amaranth, Your mom I bet can't shred on a snowboard and compile a kernel.
[05:24] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[05:24] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:24] <trae> Amaranth, :P
[05:24] <trae> Amaranth, or maybe she can ;)
[05:24] <JonathanKent> !info cvs-buildpackage
[05:24] <ubotu> cvs-buildpackage: (A set of Debian package scripts for CVS source trees.), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 5.19 (breezy), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 196 kB
[05:24] <Amaranth> trae: she'd probably try to shred a popcorn kernel if i told her that ;)
[05:24] <nickrud> trae: good backpedal
[05:24] <trae> hehe
[05:24] <jroes> oh, I thought that's what uid did too :)
[05:25] <trae> nickrud, hey, I gotta try ;)
[05:25] <jeff2> lukey0, right click on the file, properties, open with, change to your cd burner
[05:25] <lukey0> ok thanks
[05:25] <fn_> !xmms
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[05:25] <senectus> hey for some reason I get just a black screen with no text when I try to do an "ctrl alt f1" (through to f6).. any ideas why Dapper would do this? (I presume it'll be a xorg.conf thing
[05:25] <nickrud> trae: you never know who's holding the cleavar
[05:25] <delmar> can someone point me to some info for setting up grub so i can boot my windows partition. thx.
[05:25] <vadersolo> if I install the lastest ubuntu in "server" mode then I do an apt-get install ubutntu-desktop do I get the same thing as I installed the desktop straight from cd?
[05:25] <A10n> bah i give up!
[05:25] <nickrud> delmar: sure, a sec
[05:25] <delmar> nickrud, cheers
[05:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vadersolo: yeah
[05:25] <trae> nickrud, nod, she might be all l33T and stuff
[05:26] <vb_coder> intelikey jetstreamer, x works on the ubuntu live cd. if it will work on the livecd, why wont it work with ubuntu installed to the harddrive?
[05:26] <vadersolo> PuMpErNiCkLe: thank you ver much
[05:26] <trae> grrr, where is an old geek when you need one
[05:26] <intelikey> senectus try booting with vga=normal
[05:26] <intelikey> vb_coder it will.  did you do what i sujested eariles ?
[05:27] <etsb> fn_ install it on my server pc?
[05:27] <Amaranth> trae: they GOSUB'd without RETURN
[05:27] <nickrud> delmar: assuming you have a normal system, adding http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9805 to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst will boot any windows partition
[05:27] <trae> heh
[05:27] <intelikey> reposts for vb_coder ... under the "generic monitor" section   try searching on http://monitorworld.com for your monitor and put the correct   HorizSync  VertRefresh   then restart x.
[05:27] <Amaranth> !fixres
[05:27] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:27] <Amaranth> ^^tool to fix those things
[05:27] <delmar> nickrud, mint. thanks man
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Can I remove selections from the Places menu?
[05:28] <fn_> etsb: yes. install it. did you have 3 pcs ? ubuntu, xp and server ?
[05:28] <senectus> intelikey, ok wil try that now..
[05:28] <nickrud> delmar: np, I got that one form someone else
[05:28] <vb_coder> intelikey, im looking up the horizontal and vertical refresh rates right now. i just found out the monitor's model number.
[05:28] <Amaranth> DaSkreech: some of them
[05:28] <Amaranth> DaSkreech: which ones?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Amaranth: ones I add like Connect to server things
[05:28] <Amaranth> DaSkreech: they should be on the desktop too
[05:28] <jroes> haha, one of my problems was that I thought mount -a would remount them all :)
[05:28] <delmar> nickrud, hrm would that then assume that ... root  (hd0,0) is the winxp pertition? cuz mine is the second partition not the 1st.. so would it be hd0,1 ?
[05:29] <Amaranth> DaSkreech: right click on them there and choose unmount volume
[05:29] <nickrud> delmar: I'd be amazed that windows was anywhere but on the first partition, but edit to suit
[05:29] <intelikey> vb_coder also if you wish to use the ati propritary drivers  read the wiki that ubotu is going to point you to.... note that ati is tricky.
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Amaranth: Ahh
[05:29] <Amaranth> delmar: yes, (hd0,1) would be second partition on the first HD
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Amaranth: And if that Hypothesis is wrong :)
[05:29] <delmar> nickrud, i manually set it up. winxp is on the second partition
[05:30] <nickrud> delmar: then (hd0,1) it is 
[05:30] <fn_> delmar: you can use rescue cd, that easier.
[05:31] <slew> hello. im trying to compile mplayer from the ubuntu wiki, i put this line: ./configure --enable-gui --enable-largefiles --enable-menu --prefix=/usr \
[05:31] <slew>  --confdir=/etc/mplayer but yet i get this error: MPlayer was compiled WITHOUT GUI support. why???!
[05:31] <Amaranth> nickrud: 
[05:33] <Amaranth> slew: unless you still have ubuntu 5.04 you don't need to compile your own mplayer anymore
[05:33] <nickrud> Amaranth: I do apologize, but I am english only (a failing from my youth)
[05:33] <etsb> fn_: i have currently  1- xfce (server), 2-ubuntu's (client) 3 (xp's)
[05:33] <Amaranth> nickrud: babelfish made that for me :P
[05:33] <delmar> fn_, I am using a rescue CD...
[05:33] <Amaranth> nickrud: "stop abusing katakana"
[05:33] <slew> Amaranth, ok, but dont you think the gui should work?
[05:33] <jroes> thanks guys
[05:33] <etsb> fn_: i have currently  1- xfce (server), 2-ubuntu's (client) 3-xp's (client)
[05:33] <nickrud> slew: you probably saw an error earlier, having to do with missing libraries
[05:33] <delmar> fn_, how is that easuer? i booted.. typed rescue... now im at the prompt.. editing the menu.lst
[05:33] <delmar> fn_, is there an easier way?
[05:33] <Amaranth> slew: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[05:33] <slew> nickrud, probably
[05:33] <Amaranth> slew: then rerun the ./configure
[05:33] <nickrud> Amaranth: I am a follower, Seveas, save me
[05:33] <nickrud> snicker
[05:33] <Amaranth> !grub
[05:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:33] <slew> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[05:33] <fn_> delmar:yup, i mean the editing menu part.
[05:33] <Amaranth> delmar: you probably want that second one
[05:34] <nickrud> slew: try sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer, and try re compiling
[05:34] <Amaranth> slew: for every deb line in sources.list there should be a matching deb-src line
[05:34] <etsb> fn_: i have currently  1- xfce (server), 2-ubuntu's (client) 3-xp's (client)
[05:35] <geek|sauce> anyone know how to change the permissions of a read-only drive (NTFS)?
[05:35] <Amaranth> geek|sauce: NTFS support is linux is read-only
[05:35] <nickrud> !mountwindows
[05:35] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:35] <Amaranth> no writing
[05:35] <fn_> etsb: so what is your difficulties to install vsftpd with apt-get install command ?
[05:35] <slew> nickrud, i got the same error
[05:35] <JonathanKent> !info cvs2svn
[05:35] <ubotu> cvs2svn: (Convert a cvs repository to a subversion repository), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 78 kB, Installed size: 352 kB
[05:35] <intelikey> geek|sauce you want to break the ntfs ?
[05:35] <slew> Amaranth, there is
[05:35] <Amaranth> slew: not with ubuntu
[05:35] <Amaranth> !captive
[05:35] <ubotu> well, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[05:35] <slew> Amaranth, a matching source line for the deb. in my sources.list.
[05:35] <delmar> OK.. I should be clear... I am quite clear on how to recover after a windows install.. what was not mentioned on those wiki's was ... setting up grub to boot windows... nickrud, has provided me with the answer.. Cheers.
[05:36] <nickrud> slew: that's only the first thing I'd try, but I don't compile mplayer. I have nothing against the ubuntu builds
[05:36] <geek|sauce> no, i just want to be able to read from the ntfs partitions without logging in as root or having to use sudo nautilus
[05:36] <Amaranth> slew: oh
[05:36] <Amaranth> slew: not commented out?
[05:36] <Amaranth> slew: and you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[05:36] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:36] <Amaranth> geek|sauce: that should help
[05:37] <etsb> fn_ : no difficulties, i am doing as instructed, installing vsftpd on the ps dedicated as server
[05:37] <slew> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9806
[05:37] <nickrud> delmar: you're welcome, but more importantly, where did the wiki fail you?
[05:37] <etsb> fn_ : what is the next step after installations
[05:37] <geek|sauce> it's already mounted...i just need to change the permissions so other users besides root can read from it
[05:37] <Amaranth> geek|sauce: it needs to be mounted differently
[05:37] <JustinLynn> geek|sauce: you won't be able to change the permissions on the read only volume just a sec and i'll get the link to the docs
[05:38] <fn_> etsb: test from your xp, open the browser like ie and type ftp://you.ipaddress.of.ftpserver
[05:38] <Amaranth> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[05:38] <delmar> nickrud, I didnt look at it hard enough :P it didnt fail.  user failure :P
[05:39] <intelikey> slew you have the universe source commented out ?
[05:39] <etsb> fn_ : what should i see?
[05:39] <geek|sauce> ok thanks
[05:39] <fn_> etsb:pop up asking login
[05:39] <slew> intelikey, Amaranth nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9806
[05:39] <nickrud> delmar: ok. Was user failure because the wiki was not clear, or, did you fail to read the wiki clearly 
[05:39] <fn_> etsb:pop up asking you username and password
[05:39] <JustinLynn> geek|sauce> sorry for the delay, see you already have the information. :)
[05:39] <etsb> fn_ what username an password should i input?
[05:40] <intelikey> slew ok i stand corrected.  you have all source  commented out.
[05:40] <fn_> etsb:the username that registered in your server
[05:40] <nickrud> slew: I find those sources to be perfect; some may find the # in front of the deb-src lines offensive
[05:40] <intelikey> not just the universe source.
[05:41] <Amaranth> slew: remove the #s from the deb-src lines
[05:41] <geek|sauce> JustinLynn: i do?
[05:41] <nickrud> rflol
[05:41] <etsb> fn_ : im confused, you mean the same username and password i use to login into my server pc?
[05:42] <delmar> nickrud, well.. this here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-b58464119f56a7c962dd4a6ec6c7e71e094fe65e  has what I was looking for... but there is nothing that stood out at me regarding .. "adding your windows partition to the grub menu" ... which is why I overlooked it at the top I guess.
[05:42] <JustinLynn> geek|sauce> no problem, you'll have to change an entry in fstab, go here for the docs > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:43] <delmar> nickrud, if it had that in the contents at the top.. I wouldn't have been in here askin I would say :P
[05:43] <fn_> i think it is better if apt-get have ability to find the nearest server or shortest hoop
[05:43] <geek|sauce> thanks
[05:43] <nickrud> delmar: supposedly (and in my experience) those lines should have been added to grub's menu.lst automatically, but your particular config may have cause problems
[05:43] <etsb> fn_ what user / password registered in server are you refering to?
[05:43] <intelikey> that sure need tinyurl applied to it delmar
[05:45] <delmar> nickrud, if i was familiar with grub in the first place, i would have gone right to the menu.lst file and seen the examples :P. im very new to ubuntu's way of doing things. been a lilo person for as long as i can remember.
[05:45] <vb_coder> intelikey,  this might be my monitor specs. what should i put in for HorizSyn? is horizontal frequency the same as horizontal sync? its not a range of numbers with a dash http://monitorworld.com/Monitors/acer/acerview34t.html . from this information it looks like i should put 50-90 in xorg.conf for my VertRefresh
[05:45] <slew> nickrud, Amaranth do i need to redo the make, make install too?
[05:45] <Amaranth> slew: yes
[05:45] <Amaranth> slew: make clean first
[05:45] <delmar> intelikey, yeah that web link was ugly huh. lol
[05:45] <slew> or could i just do the build-dep mplayer?
[05:45] <nickrud> delmar: do a google search for lilo heaven
[05:46] <delmar> nickrud, oh?
[05:46] <nickrud> delmar: yeah, that's still me
[05:47] <slew> Amaranth, sudo make clean or just make clean, then make install?
[05:47] <nickrud> delmar: I never touched grub till ubuntu, and only because I had to answer questions
[05:47] <koll2786> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[05:47] <etsb> fn_ ?
[05:47] <intelikey> H Freq/ V Freq:       31.5/38/48 Khz / 50-90  <--- HorizSyn  31.5,38,48   &&   VertRefresh  50-90          vb_coder
[05:48] <JustinLynn> what was that? sudden quit. netsplit?
[05:48] <nickrud> JustinLynn: no, someone exploiting a flaw getting kicked
[05:48] <intelikey> not showing any major netsplit here...
[05:48] <XiCillin> how can you tar -xzvf everything in a directory tar -xzvf *.tar.gz doesn't work
[05:49] <intelikey> XiCillin     for this in *.tar.gz ;do tar -xzvf $this ;done
[05:49] <bimberi> JustinLynn: seems some clients (or the server they're connected to) reset the connection when a 'DCC SEND' occurs
[05:50] <nickrud> ok, that's overkill
[05:50] <fn_> so it will run faster maybe
[05:50] <Amaranth> it's a bug in linksys and netgear routers
[05:50] <gurpy> how do i changeg my IRC handle with out having to sign off?
[05:50] <nickrud> nalioth: bimberi got kicked, wrongly
[05:50] <DJ_tobias> why do i get this error kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill init ???
[05:50] <JustinLynn> uh oh looks like ubugtu bans people who type D** S**D in the channel
[05:50] <Amaranth> gurpy: /nick foo
[05:50] <gurpy> thanx man
[05:51] <DJ_tobias> thats what happens when i try to load my new kernel with my geforce fx 5500 plugged in
[05:51] <Amaranth> interesting
[05:51] <XiCillin> thanks intelikey
[05:51] <Amaranth> this is a test: "DCC SEND"
[05:51] <delmar> nickrud, hrm. is there a command to update anything once the menu.lst has been altered? with lilo u had to re-run lilo after messing with stuff.
[05:51] <slew> so whats the exploit?
[05:51] <nickrud> delmar: no, that's a good part of grub
[05:51] <nalioth> slew: don't you see it?
[05:52] <Amaranth> haha
[05:52] <delmar> nickrud, ok. here goes then
[05:52] <JustinLynn> slew: just looks like a malformed request will crash some clients
[05:52] <nalioth> slew: you will not be pardoned, if you use it
[05:52] <slew> nalioth, ha! im barely able to move files from one place to another..
[05:52] <cyne> why is libdvdcss2 not available for download in the universe/multiverse repositories?
[05:52] <Amaranth> another test: "DCC blah blah SEND"
[05:52] <nickrud> slew: let it go, it's not worht playing with
[05:52] <nalioth> cyne: legalities
[05:52] <Amaranth> ok, so Ubugtu isn't completely nuts
[05:53] <Snake|Sleep> wow you guys got a great bot programmed
[05:53] <slew> im not gonna play with it. dunno how to even use it. dunno even where it is. or what it is. =] 
[05:53] <Snake|Sleep> :)
[05:53] <cyne> nalioth ok , just making sure that my installation wasn't screwed :)
[05:53] <nalioth> cyne: it is not.
[05:53] <intelikey> but Amaranth dcc blah send wont work anyway
[05:54] <Titanium> anyone knows who to add more links for the source.list?
[05:54] <nalioth> bimberi: try not to use those words, ok? :)
[05:54] <delmar> nickrud, hrm. i added the section to the menu.lst rebooted .. and nothing ... however my ubuntu it booting up ok so the update worked.. ill re-check things.
[05:54] <intelikey> who to add....  hehhe
[05:54] <bimberi> so ... will i make bash.org :P
[05:54] <nickrud> does Ubugtu kline people, or does that happen somewhere else
[05:54] <narg> Titanium: sudo [nano|gedit|kate]  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <nickrud> bimberi: you're back.
[05:54] <nalioth> nickrud: staff k-lines
[05:54] <MotorCityMadMan> i'm semi-blind and i need help increasing the size of the mouse cursor.
[05:55] <nickrud> nalioth: k
[05:55] <bimberi> nickrud: yea, reset my ISP connection to get a different IP
[05:55] <nickrud> bimberi: you might mention to someone, that typing ddc send is not the end of the world
[05:55] <nickrud> still here 
[05:55] <tritium> bimberi: :)
[05:56] <delmar> nickrud, bah. ok what does update-grub do?
[05:56] <JustinLynn> bimberi: sorry about getting you kicked from the channel.
[05:56] <delmar> nickrud :P
[05:56] <Titanium> i know theres a ubuntu link where i can add more reps for my source.list
[05:56] <Titanium> anyone knows the link website?
[05:56] <bimberi> JustinLynn: hehe, np whatsoever :)
[05:56] <intelikey> !repos
[05:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:56] <nickrud> delmar: update-grub creates a menu.lst based on your /boot directory (and maybe some windows stuff)
[05:56] <intelikey> Titanium ^  that ?
[05:57] <Titanium> YES!
[05:57] <Metaltron> !easysource
[05:57] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:57] <Titanium> thank you
[05:57] <delmar> nickrud, yeah... doesnt work. and it over-writes the menu.lst.
[05:57] <narg> MotorCityMadMan: Either look for an accessability package, or find a larger mouse-icon set perhaps?
[05:57] <nickrud> delmar: then, after you've done update-grub, you do sudo grub-install /dev/hda (assuming you want to boot off the first disk)
[05:58] <nickrud> delmar: we're talking about a normal system here
[05:58] <geek|sauce> also, how can i change the resolution of the login screen?
[05:58] <delmar> nickrud, there is nothing normal about computers. they are all evil :P
[05:58] <nickrud> geek|sauce: by changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:59] <nickrud> delmar: no, we are who we are, and they are our children
[05:59] <nickrud> bwahhahha
[05:59] <robert__> how do i enable DMA for my dvd drive? i know hdparm but what do i do with it?
[06:00] <intelikey> there is nothing normal about people for that matter/
[06:00] <narg> MotorCityMadMan: You also might be interested in the kdeaccessability tools if you run kde.
[06:00] <nickrud> !tell robert__ about dma
[06:00] <robert__> i'm running gnome
[06:01] <nickrud> robert__: check your messages, ubotu has one for you
[06:01] <geek|sauce> i don't see anything in xorg.conf about default res...only default depth
[06:01] <robert__> thanks!
[06:01] <nickrud> geek|sauce: last few lines, 1600 by something or the like, that's what gdm will use
[06:01] <intelikey> geek|sauce x will by default use the highest rez avalable
[06:02] <epo> what package is 'cvs' in?
[06:02] <frank23> cvs
[06:03] <intelikey> epo apt-cache search cvs
[06:03] <epo> frank23: ok.
[06:03] <epo> intelikey: have you try that yourself? it returns many result.
[06:04] <nickrud> epo: try aptitude search ^cvs
[06:04] <onkarshinde> lI have managed to create a bluetooth remote configuration file for Sony Ericsson phone. I would like people with SE to try it. The conf is for Totem
[06:04] <intelikey> epo i have used apt-cache many times.     if you need to filter the results try   | less
[06:04] <geek|sauce> nickrud: if i change the value under "section 'monitor'" for "ModeLine" to my desired resolution for login screen, will that work?
[06:05] <intelikey> epo apt-cache search <name> | less
[06:05] <jaro> anyone here familiar with serial ports? I've device which has serial port on wich RedBoot environment should be accessible. However if i try to connect I only get garbage (cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 9600). Is there any way how one can determine speed & other stuff automatically?
[06:05] <cyne> can someone tell me how to get gcc to make exe's ?
[06:05] <G0SUB> cyne gcc file.c -o file.exe
[06:06] <intelikey> cross compiling......   yuch
[06:06] <nickrud> geek|sauce: no, it's the lines after Section"Screen", subsection "display" that controls gdm; DefautDepth there is probably 24de
[06:07] <etsb> how do i get vsftpd to work?
[06:07] <slew> nickrud, Amaranth ok, i did apt-get update, ./configure --enable gui..., make clean, make, make install and then dpkg -i mplayer*.deb, then apt-get build-dep, and it STILL gives me Upgrade refused, exiting. should i give up?
[06:07] <etsb> can anyone help?
[06:08] <nickrud> slew: I've never run that compile, so I cannot say. I'm satisfied with the mplayer that comes with ubuntu
[06:08] <etsb> can anyone please help..
[06:08] <onkarshinde> etsb: mention your problem
[06:08] <etsb> does my ubuntu server need to be configure?
[06:08] <intelikey> etsb i can't help you with networking  but i can tell you that setting up an ftp server isn't something you should just stumble through...    read   man vsftpd
[06:08] <slew> nickrud, yeah, i might as well go back to the default, it was a shot in the dark anyway. =[ thanks for your hints. =] 
[06:09] <onkarshinde> l have managed to create a bluetooth remote configuration file for Sony Ericsson phone. I would like people with SE to try it. The conf is for Totem
[06:09] <nickrud> slew: I have wasted many quivers on the dark
[06:10] <slew> nickrud, it was worth it, for the experiance points, anyway.
[06:10] <GigaClon> :)
[06:10] <nickrud> slew: I run this ubuntu thingo, just because it requires *no* compilation for usefulness
[06:11] <etsb> onkarshinde,  i'm trying to set up an ftp server on my xfce machine. i have 2 ubuntu clients and 3 xp clients
[06:11] <GigaClon> heee unlike some thingo we know  coughgentoocough
[06:11] <slew> hehe
[06:11] <slew> nice
[06:12] <etsb> i need a step by step guide thru installation of this
[06:12] <intelikey> my last install of ubuntu was a record for me.  it stayed installed for two weaks before i nuked it......  :)
[06:12] <onkarshinde> etsb: Like someone mentioned above. vsftpd is very easy to setup. man vsftpd (after you install vsftpd) is sufficient
[06:12] <nickrud> intelikey: lol
[06:12] <geek|sauce> ok, got my mounting /permission problems fixed...thanks
[06:13] <geek|sauce> now, on to the next problem, lol...
[06:13] <onkarshinde> Anybody having Sony Ericsson phones here?
[06:13] <geek|sauce> totem won't play mp3's or mpg's or avi's or anything at all really
[06:13] <mihatsu> i have p900
[06:13] <etsb> onkarshinde, if i understood it i wouldnt be asking :)
[06:13] <cyne> how do i avoid: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:14] <nickrud> geek|sauce: install totem-xine, and get the w32codecs
[06:14] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[06:14] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:14] <d33p> just installed ubuntu 5.10, have an ati radeon 9200, which driver installer should I download from ati.com fglrx for xorg org ati_driver_installer?
[06:14] <bimberi> cyne: install build-essential
[06:14] <cyne> thanks
[06:14] <nickrud> !ati
[06:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:14] <nickrud> d33p: try those links from ubotu above first
[06:15] <brian_> damn unbuntu is pretty stable,  heh
[06:15] <brian_> i usually use openbsd, but i wanted to try it for shits and giggles
[06:15] <d33p> brian_, will I notice a drastic difference between mesa and the ati drivers?
[06:15] <brian_> i'm impressed
[06:15] <brian_> i'v got a radeon x700 pro series
[06:15] <d33p> nickrud, will I notice a drastic difference between mesa and the ati drivers?
[06:16] <brian_> works lovely
[06:16] <d33p> brian_, with mesa or ati driver?
[06:16] <brian_> ati
[06:16] <brian_>  19:22:17 up 19:29,  3 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.05
[06:16] <brian_> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[06:16] <abes> hey I have a problem with Motorola wireless adapter
[06:16] <brian_> :D
[06:17] <intelikey>  11:17pm  up 2 days,  2:36,  8 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[06:17] <abes> I plugged it in and two LEDs on the card (Link and Power) are very lightly on and the device is recognized in the Device Manager...
[06:17] <scto> upgrade from kubuntu breezy to ubuntu dapper gnome only, till now everything works like a charm :-D
[06:17] <abes> But it doesnt want to work
[06:17] <brian_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[06:17] <brian_> /dev/hda1              79G  2.5G   72G   4% /
[06:17] <brian_> tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /dev/shm
[06:17] <brian_> tmpfs                 126M   13M  114M  10% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[06:17] <brian_> /dev/hdc              446M  446M     0 100% /media/cdrom0
[06:17] <Hobbsee> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:18] <intelikey> :)
[06:18] <nickrud> brian_: be warned: this is the most tightly controlled channel you will see, for good reason
[06:18] <syf> yes be warned
[06:19] <nalioth> brian_: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[06:19] <nickrud> rflol, but brian, if you give good info, you will be forgiven 
[06:19] <Madpilot> ...maybe :P
[06:19] <nickrud> bimberi: ddc ................... send ?
[06:20] <narg> nickrud: Most tightly controlled channel is on irc.modblog.com: autokickbans everyone. :)
[06:20] <bimberi> nickrud: go on, remove those dots, i dare you
[06:20] <nickrud> bimberi: no, you were my test case. Thanks
[06:20] <abes> anyone has any idea about how to enable the wireless network adapter that has been recoginized by the device manager????
[06:20] <abes> its PCMCIA Motorola card
[06:21] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:21] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:21] <nalioth> abes: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin
[06:22] <mylo> !ubotu
[06:22] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:22] <abes> nalioth: i doesnt show my wlan adapter
[06:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell abes about wireless
[06:22] <grayhane> does a burner need to be installed to be able to clone an image to the hard drive using k3b ?
[06:22] <Misterslurpey> hello
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> i just downloaded this ubuntu
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> can some one help me
[06:23] <nalioth> grayhane: nope.
[06:23] <grayhane> what ya need ?
[06:23] <narg> grayhane: If your not burning it, no
[06:23] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: sure, what's your questions?
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> um
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> i got i gaim plugin
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> how do install it
[06:23] <Misterslurpey> i never used linux b4
[06:23] <grayhane> narg,  I have it on 2 machines, one ok the one with no burner will not clone the image to hd ? any clues ?
[06:23] <Nuni> speaking of it, is there a good virtual cd/dvd drive available?
[06:24] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: and, I've never used gaim 
[06:24] <Misterslurpey> what?
[06:24] <Misterslurpey> well
[06:24] <mylo> Misterslurpey, which plugin ?
[06:24] <chuckyp> gaim rocks
[06:24] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: what do you want gaim to do for you?
[06:24] <Misterslurpey> how do i find the directory to applications
[06:24] <Misterslurpey> use xfire
[06:24] <mylo> Nuni, where ? ubuntu ?
[06:24] <narg> grayhane: What program are you using?
[06:24] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: I'm gonna hand you off to chuckyp
[06:24] <abe> hi
[06:24] <DJ_tobias> how do i get intel_agp to strop from starting at boot ???
[06:24] <Nuni> yes, something to like load a bin/cue as a real cd rom?
[06:25] <talios> anyone know anything about the dapper installer failing to copy packages?  I've now got a nicely formatted box with no software :()
[06:25] <grayhane> k3b to clone some audio CD's to burn later
[06:25] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, gaim support for xfire isn't very well.  They have a pluggin that development sort of stopped on.
[06:25] <Misterslurpey> hey
[06:25] <Misterslurpey> how do you pm some one
[06:25] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: you could add intel_agp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist , but why?
[06:25] <frank23> Nuni: there is one that exists. I never used it and I dont remember what it was
[06:25] <abe> se puede hablar en espaol
[06:25] <abe> ?
[06:25] <nickrud> !es
[06:25] <frank23> !es
[06:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:25] <mylo> Nuni, you could use k3b or gnome-roast afaik
[06:26] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, it somehow conflits with my pci vid card
[06:26] <narg> grayhane: If its just an audiocd, do audiocd:/ in konqueror, and rip to flac, and burn later.
[06:26] <Nuni> I see, thank you
[06:26] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: ah, built in vs a card in a slot?
[06:26] <mylo> Nuni, i never use those. i usually use dd to create an iso from disc
[06:26] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, yes
[06:26] <Nuni> dd?
[06:26] <DJ_tobias> know a workaround nickrud ?
[06:26] <grayhane> that will not copy the toc , and I am not using KDE, I am in Gnome.
[06:26] <mylo> Nuni, than mount it to a directory
[06:26] <Spec> Nuni: what're you trying to do?
[06:26] <mylo> !dd
[06:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mylo
[06:26] <intelikey> DJ_tobias  man sysvinit      everything that starts at boot time is started either dirrectly or indirrectly via symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/
[06:27] <Nuni> Load a bin/cue cd image as a real cd rom
[06:27] <mylo> Nuni, mount -o loop blah.iso /some/dir
[06:27] <abe> im new in ubuntu :)
[06:27] <Spec> mylo's correct
[06:27] <Nuni> I think I tried it, but I dont think it works on bin/cue
[06:27] <Nuni> or did I do it wrong?
[06:27] <Spec> oh wait, nevermind, bin/cue
[06:27] <Spec> hmm
[06:27] <mylo> bin/cue ?
[06:27] <Spec> what makes bin/cue files?
[06:27] <Spec> windows software?
[06:27] <narg> yea
[06:27] <varsendagger> bin/cue a cute name for iso?
[06:28] <Nuni> yes, bin/cue, 2 files one is .bin the iimage another is .cue the track sheet
[06:28] <mylo> !cue
[06:28] <ubotu> mylo: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:28] <Spec> kinda
[06:28] <varsendagger> no ?
[06:28] <narg> there are converters out there
[06:28] <varsendagger> that is hwat it is
[06:28] <mylo> no idea
[06:28] <narg> varsendagger: its a slightly diffrent format
[06:28] <Spec> well, find a converter :p
[06:28] <Spec> maybe k3b or gnomebaker will handle it
[06:28] <varsendagger> narg, yeah
[06:28] <Nuni> I will try it, but converting to iso is not possible with multiple tracks...
[06:28] <intelikey> errrr well let me recant on that,  seeing that ubuntu demands the use of initrd  somethings are started from there also .........
[06:28] <varsendagger> is there anyone using a blender cad orogram?
[06:28] <Nuni> I know gnomebaker does not handle bin/cue
[06:29] <Misterslurpey> HELP!!!!
[06:29] <bur[n] er> w00, I just got a free Geforce2 gts pro card :)
[06:29] <Nuni> well, it does, but only to burn, not load
[06:29] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: create a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ , called intel_agp, and mention intel_agp inside it
[06:29] <Spec> Nuni: cuetools
[06:29] <geek|sauce> nickrud: when i try to play a video wmv file, i can hear the sound but instead of seeing the video, all i see is a visualization of the sound
[06:29] <narg> bur[n] er: nice ;)
[06:29] <Nuni> thanks again
[06:29] <G0SUB> Seveas there?
[06:29] <Spec> Nuni: if gnomebaker can burn it, but not load it, see if it can write to a file as an iso?
[06:30] <chuckyp> geek|sauce, you need the codecs
[06:30] <bur[n] er> geek|sauce: got w32codecs?
[06:30] <chuckyp> !tell geek|sauce about codecs
[06:30] <Spec> then use the command mylo posted to mount it as a cdrom
[06:30] <nickrud> geek|sauce: 32codecs
[06:30] <nickrud> geek|sauce: um, see above 
[06:30] <Nuni> No, it's not possible to convert to iso, when you have data + music tracks cds
[06:30] <geek|sauce> got those already
[06:30] <Spec> oh
[06:30] <Spec> ah, i see
[06:30] <Misterslurpey> how do i open gaim-xfire.tar.gz
[06:30] <chuckyp> geek|sauce, what video card do you have?
[06:30] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, you have to un tar it.
[06:30] <G0SUB> Misterslurpey tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[06:30] <Misterslurpey> and you do that how
[06:31] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, tar xvzf gaim-xfire.tar.gz  then look in the folder it creates for a README
[06:31] <Misterslurpey> i have to type that
[06:31] <intelikey> Misterslurpey in nautilus dubble click the file......... ?
[06:31] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, is that any different from adding it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist ?
[06:31] <Misterslurpey> im new to this linux dealy
[06:31] <Spec> hey, Nuni
[06:31] <chuckyp> ahh
[06:31] <scto> Misterslurpey: type that in a console or doubble klick in nautilus
[06:31] <Spec> Nuni: cdemu.sourceforge.net
[06:31] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, I can tell you might have problems with gaim and xfire
[06:32] <Nuni> ahh thnx
[06:32] <Misterslurpey> wheres nautilus
[06:32] <bjorn_> can someone help me please, I'm trying install alsa source but I'm getting this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/588354
[06:32] <dabaR> scto: double klick is in konqueror;)
[06:32] <geek|sauce> ati radeon
[06:32] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: effectively, no. You should create it in blacklist.d, leaving hotplug/blacklist unedited.
[06:32] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, k thanks
[06:32] <geek|sauce> i forget the model, but it's 32 MB
[06:32] <scto> dabaR: sorry i switched last night to gnome :-[
[06:33] <bur[n] er> geek|sauce: lspci tells you...  but quick question about your vid problem... what are you playing hte wmv file with?
[06:33] <scto> :)
[06:33] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: it's a long story, but effectively, if you edit an existing file in /etc, the maintainers are forbidden to make any other changes.
[06:33] <Misterslurpey> nautilus??
[06:33] <Misterslurpey> where do i open that
[06:33] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, gotcha
[06:33] <geek|sauce> bur[n] er:  totem
[06:33] <intelikey> Misterslurpey look in the menu,  don't just ask.     nautilus is the default file manager for gnome    synaptic is the default package manager for gnome  and gedit is the default editor for gnome.....   look in the menu
[06:33] <bjorn_> nickrud, would you mind helping me please
[06:33] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: that's why they give us the blacklist.d to mess around in
[06:33] <bjorn_> :)
[06:33] <bur[n] er> geek|sauce: get totem-xine ?
[06:33] <scto> Misterslurpey if you use ubuntu with gnome its in the menu bar above, places
[06:33] <Misterslurpey> dest top
[06:34] <nickrud> bjorn_: questions are welcome, I often have no answer
[06:34] <scto> or just type nautilus in a console
[06:34] <DJ_tobias> nickrud, kind of like modprobe.d ?
[06:34] <geek|sauce> i think so...how can i be sure?
[06:34] <Misterslurpey> how do i get to console
[06:34] <Misterslurpey> tilde
[06:34] <Misterslurpey> `
[06:34] <bur[n] er> geek|sauce: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[06:34] <nickrud> DJ_tobias: exactly
[06:34] <Misterslurpey> ~
[06:34] <bjorn_> nickrud: I'm trying install alsa source but I'm getting this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/588354
[06:34] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, here if you wait up I'm going to try to install it now and I'll pastebin the results and what I did.
[06:35] <geek|sauce> hmmm, looks like i didn'thave it after all
[06:35] <Misterslurpey> do i go to synaptic
[06:35] <Misterslurpey> then tar it?
[06:35] <nickrud> bjorn_: two things --- installing alsa from source on ubuntu is the wrong way to go, and the man u want is crimsun. He's here, several hours a day. watch for him
[06:35] <intelikey> console access is   [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1-6]     and   [alt] +[f7]    is the tty the gui lives in......
[06:35] <dabaR> Misterslurpey: synaptic installs pacjkages from repositories that you have set up in /etc/apt/sources.list. it does not do anything with tar files, afaik.
[06:36] <scto> Misterslurpey do you use ubuntu with gnome or kubuntu with kde?
[06:36] <Misterslurpey> oh
[06:36] <Misterslurpey> ubuntu
[06:36] <bjorn_> nickrud, I had worked with crimsun before through these steps and it worked, but this time it's not :(
[06:36] <Misterslurpey> i gnome is already installed right?
[06:36] <nickrud> bjorn_: I really don't know much about sound. I learned a long time ago what sound cards to buy, so I wouldn't have to think about it
[06:36] <dabaR> Misterslurpey: what? is gnome installed on your system? you would know that...it comes with a standard ubuntu install.
[06:37] <Misterslurpey> yes it is
[06:37] <Misterslurpey> i dunt know it says gnome
[06:37] <Misterslurpey> it is
[06:37] <Misterslurpey> okee
[06:37] <Misterslurpey> im sorry im stupid
[06:37] <scto> Misterslurpey if your install is standart then you've gnoem
[06:37] <dabaR> That is fine, just lay off the enter.
[06:37] <scto> ups gnome
[06:37] <cyanid3> I'm having problems getting php working with apache2
[06:38] <dabaR> cyanid3: what problems?
[06:38] <Misterslurpey> i extracted the file
[06:38] <geek|sauce> which file do i need to edit to change default res for login screen?
[06:38] <Misterslurpey> now what do i do
[06:39] <oklinux> is ubuntu install ok on sata drive ?
[06:39] <geek|sauce> i know i already asked but i had to restart and i forgot :)
[06:39] <frank23> intelikey: there are posts like this in the forums
[06:39] <cyanid3> Well, I had php4 working, but wanted to upgrade to 5, and in the process it got all messed up.  When i go to a page with the phpinfo function with the extension .php the browser just downloads the file
[06:39] <bjorn_> nickrud, synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-minimal because I have broken packages, is this a bad thing?
[06:39] <nickrud> bjorn_: almost certainly
[06:39] <dabaR> intelikey: !alternative? try that.
[06:39] <bjorn_> nickrud, what's the solution?
[06:39] <intelikey> frank23 hehhe really....
[06:39] <oklinux> is ubuntu install ok on sata drive ?
[06:39] <dabaR> cyanid3: your module is not loaded.
[06:39] <cyanid3> yeah
[06:39] <dabaR> cyanid3: or that was the problem I had.
[06:39] <nickrud> bjorn_: depends. what's listed as broken?
[06:39] <dabaR> cyanid3: come to #dabaR
[06:40] <bjorn_> nickrud, alsa-base and alsa-source and it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal
[06:40] <intelikey> dabaR aaah why are you addressing me ?
[06:40] <Misterslurpey> so how do i do this
[06:40] <frank23> intelikey: I remember seeing one but I don't remember where
[06:40] <Misterslurpey> :9
[06:40] <randabis> hmm
[06:41] <iceman> is there a way to enable read / write ability to a ntfs harddrive, I got it mounted ...
[06:41] <nickrud> bjorn_: try typing sudo aptitude install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <randabis> I think I just figured out why fglrx is not working with the latest dist-upgrade of dapper (amd64)
[06:41] <dabaR> intelikey: ?
[06:41] <randabis> apparently the module is compiled against the wrong version of xorg
[06:41] <Misterslurpey> where do i find the root directory for gaim?
[06:41] <thrice`> root directory?
[06:41] <randabis> it is reporting that it is compiled for xorg 6.8.x and not xorg 7.0.0
[06:41] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, you are trolling
[06:41] <Misterslurpey> where gaim is installed
[06:42] <defrysk> afaIam concerned
[06:42] <intelikey> frank23, hmmm well maybe someone will write an infonode called whereis  that points to that blog    so the newbes can learn how to find a file.....
[06:42] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, what are you trying to do?
[06:42] <intelikey> dabaR please quit.
[06:42] <dabaR> intelikey: google for linux windows programs or something, there is a page I saw at some point, you could update it.
[06:42] <dabaR> intelikey: what's wrong with you?
[06:42] <Misterslurpey> extract said.tar.gz plugin into gaim
[06:42] <greg> hey, would anyone know why azureus isnt creating/accepting any connections on a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[06:43] <Misterslurpey> all i want is to use xfire :(
[06:43] <iceman> how can i enable read/ write access to a NTFS harddrive. already mounted ... and can read... but no write ability ?
[06:43] <intelikey> dabaR nothing...   i know all about alternatives  /etc/alternatives    and the symlinks in there.    i never asked anything about any of that.   you are posting to the wrong guy   :)
[06:43] <nickrud> iceman: no, you do not want write from linux, it is broken
[06:43] <Misterslurpey> i give up ill try again later...
[06:43] <aboyousif> hi, how can i install ttf fonts ?
[06:44] <Misterslurpey> i still have to find ventrilo
[06:44] <iceman> nickrun not possable ... ok ... dang it ... well can at least read ...
[06:44] <Misterslurpey> for linux
[06:44] <Madpilot> !tell aboyousif about fonts
[06:44] <iceman> opps nickrud ... :( sorry
[06:44] <whyami> My wireless seems a bit buggy and I'm wondering if there could be an IRQ conflict. How might I check this?
[06:44] <bjorn_> nickrud, after I removed the broken packages I entered your suggestion and it said everything is okay, will ubuntu die if I reboot? :(
[06:44] <dabaR> intelikey: well, you asked about a page with alternatives on "linux" for windows programs. there is a page on that that I saw at some point, maybe it is linked on the alternatives page.
[06:44] <nickrud> iceman: yeah, it does suck, but microsoft is the quintessential proprietary company
[06:45] <Misterslurpey> how do i pm some one ?
[06:45] <iceman> nickrud yep .. sucks... but at least i can read... move and save in linux ... mainly text dockuments ...
[06:45] <Misterslurpey> !help
[06:45] <bjorn_> I'm going to reboot and take my chances
[06:45] <nickrud> bjorn_: not very likely, if you can do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude && upgrade , and nothing says it's broken
[06:46] <Madpilot> dabaR & intelikey - check the Ubuntu wiki, there's at least one page with 'what Windows users want' info
[06:46] <intelikey> dabar i did not.   i asked if there was a wiki-pedia that translated windows apps   to linux apps so newbes could learn how to find a file and open it.....   thinking about writing an infonode to point them to that.....
[06:46] <nickrud> ah, he went away, without seeing my broken commands. woot
[06:46] <pilgrim> I want to see what is happening when I got to a http link. How it's redirecting me and such. How do I do this
[06:46] <dabaR> Madpilot: and I linked him to it...
[06:46] <Misterslurpey> excuse me
[06:46] <intelikey> k Madpilot   ty.
[06:47] <Misterslurpey> how do i pm you madpilot
[06:47] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, please don't - ask questions here in the channel, you'll get more information
[06:47] <Nuni> big surprise, i was too dumb to compile cdemu
[06:47] <Misterslurpey> well ppl wont help me, im too stupid
[06:47] <abe> happy happy
[06:47] <Misterslurpey> i am a genious with windows
[06:48] <Misterslurpey> but linux :(
[06:48] <delmar> bah. ffs. If I install a new kernel, it blows my menu.lst and grub no longer has a windows boot option.
[06:48] <iceman> Misterslurpey patients is a big key and you will always get help... but many many people ...
[06:48] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, Linux != Windows :P
[06:48] <delmar> doesn't it detect I have a windows boot install and add it or what?
[06:48] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: a different mind set: everything that matters in linux is text files
[06:48] <Misterslurpey> i dont think so, it all darnfangles and lol gigs
[06:48] <randabis> hmm
[06:48] <iceman> Misterslurpey secret to linux ... unlearn windows ....
[06:49] <randabis> the devs apparently broke fglrx
[06:49] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: most of what matters is in /etc . look that directory over
[06:49] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, http://help.ubuntu.com/
[06:49] <Razor-X> Misterslurpey: Heh, it's just experience you build up over time.
[06:49] <varsendagger> how can you be a genious with windows
[06:49] <Misterslurpey> well if had a plugin and i need to move it into where an app is installed how would i do that
[06:49] <Razor-X> I used to be pretty good with Windows, but now it's like using fudge.
[06:49] <Madpilot> randabis, if you're running Dapper, expect breakage
[06:49] <scto> Misterslurpey why not try the ubuntu guide?
[06:50] <Madpilot> !tell scto about ubuntuguide
[06:50] <Misterslurpey> it doesnt tell what im trying to do
[06:50] <geek|sauce> what is a good bittorrent client for ubuntu?  the built in one sucks
[06:50] <JustinLynn> randabis> thanks for the heads up i'll wait until it's fixed before I apt-get upgrade again :)
[06:50] <varsendagger> ------   a bit of irony  ----- the only reason i wanted to learn about linux was so that i could put a mod chip in my xbox and put linux on it
[06:50] <nickrud> Misterslurpey: remember how long it took to get good in windows? give yourself some slack
[06:50] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, explain here, as clearly as you can, what you're trying to do - then see if anyone can help
[06:50] <iceman> Misterslurpey i am a wiz at windows .. and every time i pop in to #ubuntu on a linux system i can always find answers ... and help .. but it always takes time ...
[06:50] <defrysk> scto, ubuntuguide ? go wash your mouth!
[06:50] <scto> thx madpilot :-[
[06:50] <Misterslurpey> ok
[06:50] <JustinLynn> varsendagger> :)
[06:51] <delmar> iceman, u gotta gree tho.. there is far more do-it-your-self in linux that with windows where most stuff is taken care of. you sink alot more time into getting things working right with linux that you will with a windows system.
[06:51] <varsendagger> Misterslurpey, this chatroom and the ubuntu community is unparallel to anycustomer support in the world
[06:51] <urodelo> sdjjef
[06:51] <Misterslurpey> i went to a website that said Xfire Plugin for Gaim, i went to the download link, download the file, i got this, gaim-xfire.tar-1.gz now how do i install it into gaim?
[06:51] <Misterslurpey> is that clear enough?
[06:51] <delmar> in my opinion the total cost of ownership of a windows workstation can be alot lower unless you have your head up linux's arse every other day and have a good idea about everything.. otherwise.. you need to do a hell of alot of reading, or typing in here.
[06:52] <urodelo> quiubo
[06:52] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, that plugin isn't available thru the Ubuntu repos? (I don't use gaim)
[06:52] <randabis> Madpilot, I understand that...just wondering if there's anything I can do to work around it for now...I've identified what appears to be the problem
[06:52] <iceman> I have used red hat 6.2 redhat 7, mandrake 7, 8, 9.2 ... Suse 8, suse 9, and who knows how many more distrobutions, and now i stick with Ubuntu ...
[06:52] <Madpilot> urodelo, stop that, thanks
[06:52] <nickrud> !pt
[06:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:52] <Misterslurpey> :o
[06:52] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, stop tryiing to install non-ubuntu packages, just try to work with linux first
[06:52] <randabis> apparently the module is compiled against the wrong version of xorg
[06:52] <randabis> it is reporting that it is compiled for xorg 6.8.x and not xorg 7.0.0
[06:52] <Misterslurpey> i need xfire though
[06:52] <Misterslurpey> :(
[06:52] <nickrud> Madpilot: did I miss something?
[06:52] <iceman> delmar yea learing the commands is a little hard, i have a old history of DOS, so this is relearn ..
[06:52] <bimberi> Misterslurpey: are there any instructions on the site?
[06:52] <Nuni> Could someone tell me what this means in relation to compiling an app; you need the source of your current running kernel.
[06:52] <Misterslurpey> nope
[06:52] <Nuni> /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it.
[06:53] <Misterslurpey> i show you it
[06:53] <Madpilot> randabis, have you tried #ubuntu+1 for Dapper problems?
[06:53] <JustinLynn> TCO... agh.. talk about attempting to put a subjective quality into a concrete number.. it's different for everyone... use what your comfortable with. :)
[06:53] <randabis> Madpilot, did not know such channel existed...will go there now thanks
[06:53] <nickrud> TCO -- my time is worthless, so there is no cost --- no, there's something wrong with that
[06:53] <Misterslurpey> http://www.fryx.ch/xfire/
[06:54] <Misterslurpey> thats where i got it from
[06:54] <delmar> iceman, yep. i started with linux in 1995, and still have the old System5Release4 books I used to learn Unix/Solaris... most of that knowledge transfered well.. I was Dos from about 1987.
[06:54] <delmar> iceman, and as for the linux commands.. I still know jack all :P
[06:54] <Nuni> or better yet, could someone just compile a .deb out of it and share it ;)
[06:55] <JustinLynn> much of that becomes second nature with experience, I still try to use ls on windows machines when i'm forced to work on them :)
[06:55] <Misterslurpey> do i need WINE to install Steam as well?
[06:55] <dabaR> ubotu: tell randabis about irc
[06:55] <iceman> delmar i started on apples, then when macs got greedy and programming became pay to do for mac, i made the move to the PC ... then started looking at os's and found linux ... successfuly installed redhat 6.2 on my first try ...
[06:56] <JustinLynn> Misterslurpey> check out http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1554
[06:56] <varsendagger> sucessfully installed ubuntu on my seventh try
[06:56] <iceman> delmar still use windows some, printing .. gaming .. but over all linux runs more and more on my pc ..
[06:56] <randabis> I've been using irc for years...thanks :)
[06:56] <geek|sauce> i need a BT client that will allow me to disable DHT
[06:56] <varsendagger> i got redhat on my first
[06:56] <MotorCityMadMan> can i alter the index.theme file to increase the size of the mouse cursor ?
[06:56] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, yes you need wine to install steam
[06:56] <dabaR> randabis: if you read that, you will learn why I sent you it.
[06:57] <nickrud> suse 6.3 for me. Never looked back (also shook suse off as soon as possible)
[06:57] <dabaR> the socond link in particular.
[06:57] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, the problem being you need a newer version of wine than ubuntu provides.  if you follow the www.linux-gamers.net walkthrough for steam youshould be good.
[06:57] <Misterslurpey> ty
[06:57] <delmar> iceman, yep. the good old apple II E.  I even had my hands on one of the first few apple lisa's. but when I was a kid.. before my atari days.. I was on a TRS-80 :). man those were the days.. waiting for the damn tape to load. :)
[06:57] <syf> soon as world of warcraft runs under linux it will be on my comp 24/7
[06:57] <randabis> dabaR, will take a look
[06:57] <iceman> I can get ubunt in one try ... but have growen familure on how to find a lot of what i need, but still get lost trying to fine exactly what i need, so I generaly as in Channel
[06:57] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, they have you add apt sources to sources.list so you can download the latest version of wine.
[06:57] <JustinLynn> Misterslurpy>np
[06:57] <dabaR> syf: ? it runs already, afaik.
[06:57] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, and i'm still messing with this gfire thing having issues with it.
[06:58] <nickrud> delmar: I have to ask which atari?
[06:58] <iceman> delmar yea had a atari 400, cartridge dos ... tape drive ... SLOW ...
[06:58] <mikere> Atari 800XL - 6502 assembly ftw!
[06:58] <syf> dabaR, it does ey? hm
[06:58] <dabaR> syf: ya, google a little
[06:58] <nickrud> ah, yes, the 800. what a keyboard.
[06:58] <syf> thanks i will
[06:58] <randabis> dabaR, ah, thanks
[06:58] <iceman> delmar ever peeked at the OS menuet ?
[06:58] <dabaR> randabis: I am not that random as I seem.
[06:58] <delmar> nickrud, think the first atari we had was a 400 with cartridge... then had a 700se.. 800xl, 1040st.. and so on.
[06:59] <lampshade> what's the command for ubotu to tell me about firefox, I thought it was !firefox1.5
[06:59] <delmar> iceman, dont think so.
[06:59] <iceman> Menuet pure assemble based operating System ...
[06:59] <etsb> can anyone guide me in the installation and setting up  vsftpd ?
[06:59] <delmar> iceman, hell of a long time ago really
[06:59] <Misterslurpey> so what is the limit of ubuntu than other linux os?
[06:59] <dabaR> lampshade: /msg ubotu ff1.5
[06:59] <iceman> delmar 20 years ... those atari's
[06:59] <nickrud> delmar: I had the 800, then 800xl then graduated to pc's, but the 800 introduced me to the concept of published source.
[06:59] <delmar> iceman, damn. we are old :P
[06:59] <lampshade> oh it is ff, k thanks
[06:59] <chuckyp> Okay how do I find the path to gaim?
[06:59] <Nuni> how do I install the kernel source for ubuntu? that is which is the package? sorry for these simple questions
[06:59] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan, changing cursor themes is fairly simple: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy#HOWTO:_INSTALL_CURSOR_THEMES_ON_UBUNTU.2FGNOME
[07:00] <iceman> delmar spek for yourself i am still 16 ... i refuse to grow up ... lol
[07:00] <Misterslurpey> see he has the sam problem
[07:00] <defrysk> Nuni, i believe its linux-source
[07:00] <chuckyp> Nuni, just install build-essential installs kernel headers
[07:00] <delmar> iceman, ah. in that case it's my 21st birthday next may :P
[07:00] <etsb> can anyone guide me in the installation and setting up  vsftpd ?
[07:00] <Nuni> danke
[07:00] <chuckyp> Anyone know how I can find the path to a specific app?
[07:00] <iceman> delmar 38 here turn 39 myay 2nd ...
[07:01] <Chousuke> chuckyp: which appname
[07:01] <nickrud> chuckyp: dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[07:01] <iceman> delmar i do miss loki software ... dang them
[07:01] <chuckyp> Chousuke, gaim
[07:01] <mahangu> how can i watch .flv files?
[07:01] <mikere> chuckyp, which or locate
[07:01] <chuckyp> Chousuke, I need the path to it to compile a plugin for it.
[07:01] <iceman> all the linux games
[07:01] <Chousuke> chuckyp: no, I meant: "which <appname>"
[07:01] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot: thank you , having a look now
[07:01] <dabaR> etsb: you just install it. do you know how to install things?
[07:01] <Chousuke> chuckyp: ;P
[07:01] <Chousuke> try "which gaim"
[07:01] <chuckyp> Chousuke, ty
[07:01] <nickrud> chuckyp: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim, then try compiling it
[07:02] <geek|sauce> what is the equivalent linux command for 'ipconfig'?
[07:02] <nickrud> ipconfig ?
[07:02] <Chousuke> geek|sauce: hmm. ifconfig?
[07:02] <dabaR> ifconfig
[07:02] <nickrud> on that, I'll call it a night
[07:02] <etsb> dabaR, im using a xfce machine as a server with ubuntu's and xp's as clients..do i need to set up the xfce server before i create a ftp server?
[07:02] <dabaR> geek|sauce: ipconfig is a windows equivalent for ifconfig
[07:03] <etsb> dabaR, set up or configure?
[07:03] <geek|sauce> ok thanks guys
[07:03] <cappicard> hmm....  xorg doesn't seem to like my ADI Monitor.
[07:03] <dabaR> etsb: for what? file transfer? no, just install... http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[07:03] <cappicard> it immediately goes into standby
[07:03] <dabaR> etsb: although, synaptic is maybe not installed? sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[07:04] <dabaR> cappicard: how about in a console?
[07:04] <cappicard> and yet my MAG works fine... (kicker is that I cannot find any monitor specs anywhere
[07:04] <cappicard> the console works fine
[07:04] <cappicard> I get cloned displays
[07:04] <cappicard> no monitor specs on google for the ADI
[07:05] <cappicard> the ADI says 1024x768 on the console according to its OSD
[07:05] <dabaR> try some numbers...
[07:05] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:05] <DJ_tobias> how do i test to see if my new video card is working ?
[07:05] <dabaR> you view
[07:05] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, do you mean 3d accel, or 'working at all'?
[07:05] <etsb> dabaR,  thats it?
[07:05] <DJ_tobias> 3d accel
[07:05] <dabaR> etsb: yuppy
[07:05] <DJ_tobias> maddler,
[07:05] <DJ_tobias> oops
[07:05] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot,
[07:05] <defrysk> DJ_tobias, just run tuxracer
[07:05] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, ati or nvidia?
[07:05] <mahangu> flv anyone? how can i open that file?
[07:06] <dabaR> mahangu: google
[07:06] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot, nvidia
[07:06] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, hmm, not sure - I run ATI here - check the nvidia wiki page?
[07:06] <jc2> Good eve. Got a question. What is the recommended solution to create a bootcd of my existing ubuntu configuration?
[07:06] <defrysk> glxinfo |grep render
[07:06] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, I don't know I can't get gfire working.
[07:06] <chuckyp> Misterslurpey, I give
[07:07] <defrysk> DJ_tobias, glxinfo |grep render
[07:07] <dabaR> mahangu: xine? there is a flv in find flv with ubotu.
[07:07] <Madpilot> defrysk, does the glxinfo stuff work for nvidia cards too? I wasn't sure
[07:07] <etsb> dabaR,  i've installed it, what next?
[07:07] <cappicard> hm... xorg is reporting this: fglrx(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 125 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 69 kHz
[07:07] <jc2> I'm currently trying bootcdwrite, but I wonder if it's going to have a hard time with the software raid1 and raid5  setup in the system.
[07:07] <defrysk> Madpilot, it does :)
[07:07] <dabaR> jc2: no standard solution. check out the book called knoppix hacks from oreilly
[07:07] <DJ_tobias> direct rendering: Yes
[07:07] <DJ_tobias> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5500/PCI/SSE2
[07:07] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, that looks like you've got 3d accel, then
[07:07] <defrysk> DJ_tobias, stop pasting and yes yours is working
[07:08] <Tarster> ok guys
[07:08] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, try ppracer or scorched3d - they both need 3d accel
[07:08] <dabaR> etsb: next connect to it. go into ubuntu, and use the places menu to connect to your server using ssh as the protocol and your xfce boxes IP address as the host, and your user name. GO try before you ask more questions
[07:08] <Tarster> got a question for u guys
[07:08] <Madpilot> !ask
[07:08] <ubuntu_> ewww
[07:08] <ubuntu_> i use gnome
[07:08] <dabaR> ask already:)
[07:08] <DJ_tobias> hmm, my game doesnt look like it is any better
[07:08] <Tarster> i need to install nvidia drivers for a geforce 5500
[07:08] <dabaR> ubuntu_: no, gnome uses you.
[07:09] <ubuntu_> iwant a kde os
[07:09] <ubuntu_> not really
[07:09] <clever`> clever@laptop:/var/www/bots/main$ php -q test.php
[07:09] <clever`> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/bots/main/mysql.inc.php on line 2
[07:09] <dabaR> Tarster: ask DJ_tobias .
[07:09] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, ewww
[07:09] <clever`> how do i fix that?
[07:09] <Madpilot> :P
[07:09] <redblade> one know of a helpful website for LAMP Servers?
[07:09] <dabaR> Madpilot: lol
[07:09] <redblade> As in set up?
[07:09] <Misterslurpey> how do i get to console editor?
[07:09] <dabaR> ubotu: tell redblade about lamp
[07:09] <Madpilot> !tell redblade about lamp
[07:09] <clever`> forgot i had this connection
[07:09] <defrysk> someone here likes kde ?
[07:09] <G0SUB> Misterslurpey nano
[07:09] <ubuntu_> only one sto use are kde and gnome mngr's
[07:09] <defrysk> ewwww
[07:09] <ubuntu_> i does
[07:09] <Misterslurpey> ??
[07:09] <redblade> THankyou
[07:10] <G0SUB> Misterslurpey nano is a console based editor
[07:10] <DJ_tobias> Tarster, ouch..
[07:10] <dabaR> clever`: what? is that the error ? did you figure it out?
[07:10] <ubuntu_> kde is very robust
[07:10] <Madpilot> ubuntu_, to get kde, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <defrysk> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop to get your KDE :)
[07:10] <clever`> i didnt fix it yet
[07:10] <Tarster> ouch what?
[07:10] <Misterslurpey> lemme guess i have to get NANo?
[07:10] <ubuntu_> no crap
[07:10] <clever`> it took me 5 hours just to get mysql and php working in apache
[07:10] <ubuntu_> i use gnome on ubuntu
[07:10] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, nano is installed by default - what do you need to edit?
[07:10] <dabaR> Misterslurpey: just type it in a terminal already:)
[07:10] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, nano is installed by default
[07:11] <intelikey> Misterslurpey nano  or  pico  or  vi / vim   all installed by default.
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> how do i get to it
[07:11] <ubuntu_> but i love kde on knoppix
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> :o
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> god
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> ;(
[07:11] <dabaR> clever`: well, what, that is the error? did you set up mysql to accept connections? there is a #mysql
[07:11] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, for now used gedit instead of nano , its easyer to use
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> ...wheres that
[07:11] <clever`> im able to get mysql fine
[07:11] <ubuntu_> knoppix is the most elegant of the live distro's
[07:11] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, what are you trying to do, exactly?] 
[07:11] <clever`> when accessing the php script thru apache
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> install wine
[07:11] <clever`> but from the cli it doesnt work
[07:11] <Misterslurpey> i have the instructions
[07:12] <Misterslurpey> it said use nano
[07:12] <dabaR> ubuntu_: ubuntu live is the most similar live distro to ubuntu
[07:12] <Misterslurpey> or "console editor"
[07:12] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, got the URL you're using?
[07:12] <cappicard> just use any text editor
[07:12] <Misterslurpey> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[07:12] <Madpilot> !tell Misterslurpey about enter
[07:12] <ubuntu_> no
[07:12] <jeeves_> all:  any one experianced with setting up a NVIDA driver?  I updated it from their web site, and now I can't get the max res of my LCD (allthough it worked before the upgrade)
[07:12] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, sudo apt-get install wine
[07:12] <ubuntu_> you get both on the dvd so whats the pount?
[07:12] <jc2> Thank you dabaR "no standard solution. check out the book called knoppix hacks from oreilly" I'll investigate further.
[07:13] <Misterslurpey> ?
[07:13] <ubuntu_> whats the status bar on xchat for?
[07:13] <Misterslurpey> what do i do?
[07:13] <eletido> type sudo apt-get install wine in the terminal
[07:14] <Misterslurpey> how do i do that excatly
[07:14] <jeeves_> eletido:  do you know anything about NVIDA drivers?
[07:14] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, start Synaptic, and follow the 1st & 2nd sections of that page - you don't need to use any text editor that way
[07:14] <Misterslurpey> i did
[07:14] <eletido> jeeves_, cant say that i do.
[07:14] <Misterslurpey> i just need to know where the terminal thing he said is
[07:14] <Misterslurpey> wait
[07:14] <dabaR> jeeves_: well, there is always fixres
[07:14] <jeeves_> eletido:  who in here is good with them?  I've got to get this res isue fixed.
[07:14] <dabaR> ubotu: tell jeeves_ about fixres
[07:14] <Misterslurpey> if i did the synaptic i dont need to do the  bottom?
[07:14] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, applications->accessories->terminal - but you don't need it for that
[07:15] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, no
[07:15] <jeeves_> dabar:  what?
[07:15] <Misterslurpey> i am done?
[07:15] <eletido> jeeves_, i wouldnt know. i havent been in this channel for more than 2 times in my life.
[07:15] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, and please read the msg the bot sent you - don't use ENTER as punctuation - thanks
[07:15] <jeeves_> eletido:  its ok.  after I reinstalled the OS, I can't get back onto the server I was orignaly on.
[07:15] <Misterslurpey> im sorry, i can help it.
[07:15] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, did you read http://help.ubuntu.com/ ?
[07:15] <Misterslurpey> im sorry, i cant help it.
[07:15] <dabaR> eletido: use aptitude on the command line; aptitude search package, sudo aptitude install package, remove package...
[07:16] <Misterslurpey> yes, its all buzzes and clicks
[07:16] <Misterslurpey> i am a visual learner, i have to see some one do it b4 i can learn it. and reading dont help me.
[07:16] <jeeves_> dabar:  its not a question of no knowing where the res settings are, the res I want isn't listed.
[07:16] <defrysk> Misterslurpey, learn how to read
[07:16] <ubuntu_> whats the brown status bar for?
[07:17] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, if you've done the first section of that guide, hit the Reload button in Synaptic and search for wine - it should grab the newest stuff from the winehq repository
[07:17] <dabaR> jeeves_: go read the wiki page already...it shows what needs to be done.
[07:17] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot: thank you very much/you are a God send to me/
[07:17] <eletido> dabaR, i think you got me screwed up with someone else. i wasnt asking any questions
[07:17] <jeeves_> dabar:  thanks again, but the attude isn't needed.
[07:18] <dabaR> eletido: you use apt-get, so I told you to use aptitude.
[07:18] <Misterslurpey> so just asking do i have to check all the wine files?
[07:18] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, look at the version numbers, get the latest one, I guess
[07:18] <Misterslurpey> i have it, do i just mark wineinstall
[07:19] <etsb> why cant i install wdm?
[07:20] <etsb> why cant i install wdm?
[07:20] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, there's probably more tutorials on that winehq site - I've never actually installed wine myself (no need)
[07:20] <Misterslurpey> so when i mark the file i click accept and it whould work
[07:20] <Madpilot> Misterslurpey, yes
[07:20] <Madpilot> !synaptic
[07:20] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:20] <ubuntu_> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[07:20] <dabaR> etsb: as in it is not in your repos when you try?
[07:20] <Nuni> well after installing the kernel source, nothing seems to work ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build says ls: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory ... any ideas?
[07:20] <etsb> dabaR, YES..
[07:21] <eletido> !aptitude
[07:21] <dabaR> Misterslurpey: you can also read http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[07:21] <Madpilot> !info wdm
[07:21] <dabaR> etsb: you too^
[07:21] <ubotu> wdm: (WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.28-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 389 kB, Installed size: 1236 kB
[07:21] <Madpilot> etsb, you probably need to enable Universe/Multiverse repos
[07:21] <eletido> dabaR, you think aptitude is better?
[07:21] <etsb> Madpilot, how do i do that?
[07:21] <Madpilot> !tell etsb about universe
[07:22] <dabaR> etsb: read the page above...
[07:22] <dabaR> the one I told the other person to read, then said you too
[07:22] <Tarster> DJ sry im not registered
[07:22] <dabaR> eletido: no, I think it has different functionality. It is better to use for normal installation tasks.
[07:22] <eletido> dabaR, apt-get install aptitude?
[07:22] <intelikey> muni not in /lib/modules  unless you build a new kernel.....   use find     or look in /usr/src
[07:23] <etsb> dabaR,  i did a server install
[07:23] <dabaR> eletido: it is installed. since debian 2.2:-/?
[07:23] <Nuni> intelikey: can't find anything there either
[07:23] <eletido> dabaR, ah. thanks. didnt know that
[07:23] <dabaR> etsb: what editor do you use?
[07:23] <etsb> dabaR, and i tried to udo apt-get install wdm x-window-system-core xfce4 mozilla-firefox synaptic
[07:23] <bintut> hello all..
[07:23] <bintut> how can i download and install acroread?
[07:24] <defrysk> !acroread
[07:24] <ubotu> defrysk: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:24] <defrysk> !acrobat
[07:24] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[07:24] <intelikey> muni dpkg -lf <package name>   and watch where it put the source
[07:24] <dabaR> it is in multiverse, defrysk probably. use info
[07:24] <defrysk> bintut, tried evince ?
[07:24] <bintut> defrysk: not yet.
[07:24] <dabaR> etsb: what editor?
[07:25] <ubuntu_> why no quicktime in ubuntu?
[07:25] <etsb> dabaR,  everything else went ok but wdm retuned as E: couldnt find package wdm
[07:25] <bintut> any acpi guru here?
[07:25] <defrysk> bintut, you might like it (better)
[07:25] <ubuntu_> apple need sto fix that
[07:25] <etsb> dabaR,  i dont know..all i get is  a command line
[07:25] <dabaR> etsb: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list". Uncomment the line about universe.
[07:25] <ubuntu_> brb
[07:25] <bintut> defrysk: really? i'll check..  :)
[07:25] <dabaR> uncomment means remove the # from the beginning.
[07:25] <eletido> !aptitude
[07:26] <etsb> i dont think i have nano
[07:26] <KenzoIX> hi guys
[07:26] <dabaR> etsb: I think you do. did you try?
[07:26] <Nuni> intelikey: the package is build-essential and it says "conflicting actions", did I install the right package for the kernel source?
[07:26] <Misterslurpey> ok how do i find wine now
[07:26] <KenzoIX> how can I change the screen resolution at login screen?
[07:26] <ubuntu_> can i get quicktime for ubuntu?
[07:26] <defrysk> bintut, otherwise enable muliterse and sudo apt-get install acroread
[07:26] <ubuntu_> its not listed
[07:26] <dabaR> ubuntu_: /msg ubotu restricted
[07:26] <intelikey> nuni build essential is not repete NOT kernel source.
[07:26] <ubuntu_> only qt is but its not really video
[07:27] <defrysk> mulitverse*
[07:27] <KenzoIX> it's 1280*1024 now....but at only 60Hz
[07:27] <Nuni> please tell me which is the kernel source package?
[07:27] <defrysk> geez I am in typo heaven
[07:27] <KenzoIX> I want change it to 1024*768@85Hz
[07:27] <dabaR> ubuntu_: go ahead, send that as the message to the channel, then read what ubotu tells you about it, and follow his link.
[07:27] <intelikey> Nuni try apt-cache search linux | less
[07:27] <ubuntu_> i want the apple install
[07:27] <dabaR> ubuntu_: good luck
[07:27] <defrysk> KenzoIX, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:28] <KenzoIX> thx....i'll give it a try
[07:28] <defrysk> KenzoIX, run the defaults exept for monitor resolution
[07:28] <defrysk> KenzoIX, set that to your personal prefs
[07:28] <ubuntu_> i'llo wiat till apple doe sit
[07:28] <DoTheRodeo> what do you do after you edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:28] <DoTheRodeo> so you can install universe
[07:29] <benplaut> ubuntu_: the chances are, they never will
[07:29] <bintut> defrysk: i pmsg you the lines i have in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <ubuntu_> why not?
[07:29] <benplaut> not enough of a market share to make it worthwhile
[07:29] <intelikey> Nuni you will have to have the build-essential installed to be able to build a new kernel  but the kernel source is linux<*release*>.deb
[07:29] <dabaR> DoTheRodeo: remove the # from the beginning of the lines that say universe at the end.
[07:29] <benplaut> !repos
[07:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:29] <dabaR> DoTheRodeo: while you are at it, add "multiverse" to the end of the said lines.
[07:29] <Nuni> I need to "make" a compile of an app, not the kernel
[07:29] <benplaut> DoTheRodeo: read what ubotu just said
[07:30] <benplaut> the wiki link
[07:30] <ubuntu_> i bet apple will do it
[07:30] <intelikey> then you are probably looking for kernel headers Nuni
[07:30] <ubuntu_> i don't see why not
[07:30] <dabaR> ubuntu_: all right.
[07:30] <redblade> Hi
[07:30] <DoTheRodeo> do you have to rehash/restart anyting after you edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:30] <intelikey> Nuni try apt-cache search headers | less
[07:30] <benplaut> ubuntu_: what's a good reason for them to do it?
[07:30] <benplaut> they don't have any good incentive...
[07:30] <ubuntu_> larger  user base
[07:31] <ubuntu_>  i almost had both itunes nad quicktime working on knoppix
[07:31] <redblade> When I did this -  sudo apt-get install mysql-server  - It asked me a mail name
[07:31] <intelikey> DoTheRodeo apt-get update
[07:31] <ubuntu_> ipod sales should do it
[07:31] <redblade> and i typed RedBlade
[07:31] <benplaut> ubuntu_: larger by a very small percent
[07:31] <redblade> is that okay?
[07:31] <intelikey> DoTheRodeo sudo that of course...
[07:32] <benplaut> most of us are happy with open source media players, using proprietary codecs
[07:32] <ubuntu_> i don't agree linux would be great for itunes /ipod
[07:32] <ubuntu_> apple is open source
[07:32] <DoTheRodeo> i know
[07:32] <dabaR> ubuntu_: go to #ubuntu-offtopic, please. Sorry, this is the ubuntu support channel.
[07:32] <DoTheRodeo> nice, i can now download universe
[07:33] <intelikey> some of us could hardly care less about itunes.   ;/
[07:33] <dabaR> DoTheRodeo: good work. Tell me afterwards whether there is life on mars.
[07:33] <ubuntu_> ok
[07:34] <DoTheRodeo> ok, i just install xine-ui but how come its not on the menu?
[07:34] <etsb> dabaR,  where do i look for the ftp server again?
[07:34] <DoTheRodeo> installed*
[07:34] <etsb> dabaR,  on ubuntu machine
[07:34] <ubuntu_> if you read my replies u would you know i was very much on topic
[07:34] <ubuntu_> asking about quicktime videi in ubuntu
[07:35] <dabaR> etsb: next connect to it. go into ubuntu, and use the places menu to connect to your server using ssh as the protocol and your xfce boxes IP address as the host, and your user name.
[07:35] <benplaut> ubuntu_: just /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: I answered that a long time ago
[07:36] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ubuntu_ about restricted
[07:36] <Misterslurpey> plz tell me how to enter console
[07:36] <GTroy> what's the command to find the version of an app?
[07:36] <ubuntu_> won't work
[07:36] <dabaR> Misterslurpey: a console? ctrl-alt-f3
[07:36] <etsb> dabaR,  places menu does not show ssh
[07:36] <Nuni> ah well I give up, for now
[07:36] <dabaR> etsb: nono, use the places menu to connect to server...
[07:37] <etsb> dabaR,  Places>Network Server ?
[07:37] <etsb> dabaR,  Places>Connect To Server ?
[07:37] <dabaR> etsb: send this as a message to the channel: "/exec -o cat /etc/issue"
[07:38] <Misterslurpey> well is there a mini window type console cuz i have to paste the command
[07:38] <dabaR> etsb: connect to server, ya...
[07:38] <dabaR> etsb: try then ask
[07:38] <etsb> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[07:38] <GTroy> how do I find what version xmms is?
[07:39] <dabaR> xmms --version
[07:39] <etsb> dabaR, servise typr : ssh?
[07:39] <GTroy> thank you dabaR
[07:39] <dabaR> etsb: I said that already.
[07:39] <dabaR> GTroy: $20
[07:40] <etsb> dabaR,  ok..server : ip of that server?
[07:40] <GTroy> how bout moral support?
[07:40] <aztek> good luck
[07:40] <etsb> dabaR,  server : (enter ip of the server?)
[07:41] <dabaR> etsb: I said all that in one message.
[07:41] <KenzoIX> hey....when I run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:41] <etsb> dabaR,  im sorry..
[07:41] <ubuntu_> need help with xchat
[07:41] <KenzoIX> I get this
[07:41] <dabaR> etsb: next connect to it. go into ubuntu, and use the places menu to connect to your server using ssh as the protocol and your xfce boxes IP address as the host, and your user name.
[07:41] <ubuntu_> kde is better
[07:41] <dabaR> etsb: no need to be sorry.
[07:41] <KenzoIX> dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[07:41] <KenzoIX> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[07:41] <etsb> dabaR: the username to input is the same as?
[07:42] <etsb> dabaR: the username to input is the same as which username?
[07:42] <dabaR> etsb: it is a valid user name on the machine that you are connecting to. to add user names, you can use sudo adduser <insertusernamehere>
[07:43] <charles> re there any SBC's which run linux similar to the one provided by soekris engineering (www.soekris.com)
[07:43] <elPepo> hi friends
[07:43] <jerware> Rawplayer: y0
[07:43] <elPepo> is there somebody?
[07:44] <labrat> whats the trick opening up a vpn tunnel to a windows server?
[07:45] <eletido> say i went into the console for a bit, what command would get me back into the GUI
[07:45] <elPepo> please, is there some way to download ISO images with packages of Universe ?
[07:45] <DoTheRodeo> start X?
[07:45] <iceman> anyone know a gdesklett of other tool so i can get a volume control plugin, gnome will not add itself to the panel
[07:45] <w0rm9> how to login at guest without password?
[07:45] <theine> eletido: alt-F7
[07:45] <dabaR> elPepo: no official way at this time. use google to see what is out there.
[07:46] <iceman> elPepo why not install and enable repositories ?
[07:46] <KenzoIX> hey everyone
[07:46] <eletido> theine, thanks
[07:46] <intelikey> elPepo i believe that the ubuntu dvd iso has that  you can read more about it some place on http://ubuntu.com
[07:46] <theine> eletido: np
[07:46] <KenzoIX> why i get the error dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove
[07:46] <KenzoIX>  when I run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:47] <defrysk> KenzoIX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[07:47] <defrysk> KenzoIX, no space ;)
[07:47] <viviersf> ya KenzoIX
[07:47] <viviersf> heh
[07:47] <intelikey> elPepo again it is dvd only....  and i may even be wrong about that.... i don't do dvd  or even iso down loads   dialup.
[07:48] <KenzoIX> :D
[07:48] <redblade> Hey that website For LAMP leaves a few things out
[07:48] <KenzoIX> sorry....i'm very new to linux :P
[07:48] <redblade> I'm not sure what to do when it says sudo gedit /var/www/testphp.php
[07:48] <defrysk> tima to walk the dog
[07:48] <dabaR> intelikey: dvd really has only live+install CD in one.
[07:48] <redblade> because there is no /var/www/testphp.php
[07:49] <elPepo> so the only way is download each package and then make my own repositories ?
[07:49] <KenzoIX> should I attempt to autodetect video hardware?
[07:49] <intelikey> dabaR no repos iso ?   i thought i saw one......   maybe it was debian.
[07:49] <KenzoIX> because i have ATI VGA.....and I've install fglrx driver
[07:49] <dabaR> intelikey: debian has all the packages on cds.
[07:49] <etsb> dabaR, the only username is the username i gave during installation
[07:49] <dabaR> dunno about their dvd
[07:50] <dabaR> etsb: so use that one.
[07:50] <KenzoIX> I've installed fglrx driver
[07:50] <etsb> dabaR, ok
[07:50] <intelikey> dabaR do you recieve pm ?
[07:50] <asimismo> Anyone here use the Enterprise Volume Management System?
[07:50] <etsb> dabaR, Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.7
[07:50] <theine> KenzoIX: ok, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg indeed is what you want to do then
[07:51] <eletido> what was the link for the example source.lst file?
[07:51] <dabaR> intelikey: yes, but can not reply atm, cause not regd.
[07:51] <dabaR> intelikey: thanks;)
[07:51] <intelikey> np
[07:52] <iceman> anyone kow where you can get a dapper iso image ?
[07:52] <dabaR> etsb: you did something wrong, I think. do "aptitude search vsftpd" and tell me whether the line starts with an i.
[07:52] <etsb> dabaR, can i do this search from th eclient machine
[07:53] <intelikey> if i had fast inet,  i would make a set of iso's for the universe on the drake when it flys.......
[07:53] <dabaR> etsb: not unless you ssh over to the xfce box
[07:54] <etsb> dabaR,  ok brb then
[07:54] <liable> oops
[07:55] <allanh128> Hello.  We were in here earlier.  We are about to update lilo so we can setup our raid i and 5 properly with Breezy Badger.  We need to know how to backup our bootloader to cdrom in case we blow things up.  We don't need to create a live cd or anything like that we just need to boot our kernel and modules from cd.  Any suggestions.
[07:55] <dabaR> eletido: search for src.list dabaR on the paste.ubuntu-nl site
[07:55] <theine> fortune
[07:55] <theine> Random Fortune: One of the things that hamper Linux's climb to world domination is the shortage of bad Computer Role Playing Games, or CRaPGs. No operating system can be considered respectable without one. 	-- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie
[07:55] <benplaut> iceman: one sec
[07:56] <afd_> hi! I'm looking for a webmail system to work with my imap server, I know about horde and squirrelmail, but I'd like to go for something with the best security track. Any recommendations?
[07:56] <eletido> dabaR, looks like paste.ubuntu-nl is down
[07:56] <dabaR> .org
[07:56] <benplaut> iceman: try http://tinyurl.com/s3vq8
[07:57] <eletido> dabaR, nvm, i think u meant buntu.nl
[07:57] <intelikey> allanh128 maybe  dd if=/dev/hda (assuming ide hd) of=mbr.img count=1    adn copy /boot/* and mbr.img to the cd?
[07:58] <intelikey> s/adn/and/
[07:58] <dabaR> eletido: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:58] <eletido> dabaR, oh, thanks. im stupid
[07:58] <brian_> checking for inet_aton... yes
[07:58] <brian_> checking for X... no
[07:58] <brian_> configure: error: The path for the X11 files not found!
[07:58] <brian_> Make sure you have X and it's headers and libraries (the -devel p ackages
[07:58] <brian_> in Linux) installed.
[07:58] <brian_> trying to install windowmaker heh
[07:59] <Amaranth> brian_: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[07:59] <intelikey> restoring is the same in reverse dd if=mbr.img of=/dev/hda  and copy the files back to /boot allanh128
[07:59] <dabaR> eletido: Im sure you are not.
[07:59] <glick> excuse me how come in evolution when i click apply  my filter rules it doesnt do anything
[08:00] <brian_> root@br1an:/usr/include# sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[08:00] <brian_> sudo: unable to lookup br1an via gethostbyname()
[08:00] <theine> brian_: or simply: sudo apt-get install wmaker
[08:00] <intelikey> allanh128 make sure that mbr.img is only 512 bites
[08:00] <jiangguowei> #help
[08:01] <theine> brian_: you might need to add your hostname to /etc/hosts
[08:02] <theine> brian_: did you change it since you installed ubuntu?
[08:02] <brian_> yeah i just typed hostname 'blah'
[08:02] <brian_> br1an
[08:02] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know how to play flash files in ubuntu ?
[08:02] <RemyLaptop> (.swf)
[08:03] <theine> brian_: please paste the line containing "localhost" from /etc/hosts
[08:03] <brian_> brian@br1an:~$ cat /etc/hosts
[08:03] <brian_> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       deface.zorro.hu
[08:04] <bstc_ostl> #ubuntu-meeting
[08:05] <glick> excuse me does anyone know how to apply filters in evolution?
[08:05] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone know how to play flash files in ubuntu ?
[08:05] <intelikey> /ignore *!*@255.255.255.255
[08:05] <defrysk> !flash
[08:05] <ubotu> flash is, like, installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <brian_> hmm
[08:06] <theine> brian_: can you paste the output of "sed s/zorro\.hu/zorro\.hu\ br1an/ /etc/hosts"?
[08:07] <theine> brian_: only the line containing localhost that is
[08:07] <brian_> brian@br1an:~$ "sed s/zorro\.hu/zorro\.hu\ br1an/ /etc/hosts
[08:07] <brian_> >
[08:07] <brian_> heh?
[08:08] <theine> brian_: leave the quotation mark away
[08:08] <intelikey> hehhe
[08:08] <brian_> haha, i know im tried 1 sec
[08:08] <brian_> brian@br1an:~$ sed s/zorro\.hu/zorro\.hu\ br1an/ /etc/hosts
[08:08] <intelikey> why not tell him to just add ' br1an' to the end of that line ?
[08:08] <brian_> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       deface.zorro.hu br1an
[08:09] <brian_> root@br1an:~# id
[08:09] <brian_> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[08:09] <brian_> :p
[08:09] <theine> brian_: sudo sed -i s/zorro\.hu/zorro\.hu\ br1an/ /etc/hosts
[08:11] <brian_> et:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main x11proto-core-dev 6.8.99.15+cvs.20050722-1 [74.0kB] 
[08:11] <brian_> 0% [1 x11proto-core-dev 10220/74.0kB 13%]                       1637B/s 1h12m26s
[08:11] <brian_> sweet :D
[08:11] <theine> brian_: but why don't you install windowmaker via apt-get as well?
[08:11] <brian_> i am
[08:11] <brian_> right now
[08:12] <theine> intelikey: good question... i was actually trying to avoid the use of sudo... way too early in the morning for me
[08:12] <theine> brian_: ah, ok
[08:12] <brian_> my next step is getting a cool theme heheh
[08:12] <lampshade> how do I know what I'm using? OSS or ALSA?  Do programs run each at different times?
[08:13] <brian_> installing windowmaker, but i want fluxbox eventually ;)
[08:13] <crimsun> lampshade: you're using ALSA
[08:13] <lv856> hey
[08:13] <theine> brian_: did you do "sudo apt-get install wmaker"?
[08:13] <lv856> whats that
[08:14] <intelikey> lv856 that was not to you
[08:14] <brian_> Fetched 6930kB in 1m37s (70.8kB/s)
[08:14] <brian_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxaw/libxaw 7-dev_7.0.2-3_i386.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset b y peer)
[08:14] <brian_> ;/
[08:14] <blinger> heh, fluxbox rules
[08:14] <brian_> its like blackbox on steriods :D
[08:14] <lv856> sorry but anywhere what is sudo apt-get install wmaker???
[08:14] <blinger> running it w dapper now
[08:15] <brian_> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[08:15] <brian_> weird
[08:15] <theine> brian_: yeah, but just install wmaker and not any X development libraries and headers, ok?
[08:15] <lv856> what is that
[08:15] <lampshade> crimsun, how do you know that?  Like how do the sound systems work I have no idea.  It seems like though OSS works better for me?  At least I couldn't get sound in vlc to work until I ranodmly checked a box that said work around buggy oss drivers and then blam perfect sound.  My sound sucked in Doom III then I changed to OSS in the options and bam worked.  What's going on  I have no clue about this stuff
[08:15] <intelikey> lv856 command line package installation.    man sudo       man apt-get
[08:15] <brian_> alright
[08:15] <lv856> k
[08:15] <crimsun> lampshade: because Ubuntu uses ALSA by default.
[08:15] <lv856> how do u open .bin files????
[08:16] <intelikey> you probably want to execute them.    sh file.bin
[08:16] <crimsun> lampshade: it's really all quite simple: OSS and ALSA are both audio APIs. Ubuntu uses ALSA.
[08:16] <lv856> ty
[08:16] <lv856> wohh
[08:16] <brian_> hmm, what's up with this heh
[08:16] <brian_> Package wmaker is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:16] <brian_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:16] <brian_> is only available from another source
[08:16] <brian_> E: Package wmaker has no installation candidate
[08:16] <talios> 'lo crimsun
[08:16] <talios> lnts
[08:16] <crimsun> lampshade: now what you should have done instead for vlc is install vlc-plugin-alsa, then choose ALSA for the sound output in vlc's preferences
[08:17] <crimsun> hi mark
[08:17] <intelikey> lv856 also if you do 'man sudo'  you will learn how to execute things like that as root using the sudo command.
[08:17] <lv856> kool
[08:17] <lv856> in the client
[08:17] <intelikey> in a terminal  or console
[08:18] <lv856> yeah
[08:18] <theine> brian_: you need to add the universe repository (you want that anyway...): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:18] <brian_> aight
[08:18] <glick> where does evolution store its downloaded mail?
[08:18] <glick> how can i delete it and have it redownload it?
[08:18] <lampshade> crimsun, yeah should have done that, if I had any idea in the freaking world to do that.  Why isn't that  installed then when it is installed from the repos sigh...  I had no freaking idea such a thing existed or would be needed.  I would assume that programs came with what they needed  or some crap.  Or at least have it as a recommended package but I don't recall seeing it there if it was recommended
[08:18] <intelikey> click if it hasn't changed  $HOME/.evoultion/<username>/
[08:19] <crimsun> lampshade: I changed it for Dapper.
[08:19] <AngryElf> which kernel will be distributed with 6.04?
[08:19] <intelikey> click if it hasn't changed  $HOME/.evoultion/<username>/inbox    even
[08:19] <crimsun> AngryElf: 2.6.15.4 or newer.
[08:19] <etsb> dabaR etsb: you did something wrong, I think. do "aptitude search vsftpd" and tell me whether the line starts with an i.------------> yes it does begin with i
[08:19] <etsb> can someone help please
[08:19] <lv856> ill try etsb
[08:19] <AngryElf> thanx
[08:19] <lampshade> crimsun, alright, thank you very much :)
[08:19] <intelikey> err glick ^
[08:20] <etsb> lv856, im trying to ftp from a server to ubuntu clients and xp clients..
[08:20] <lv856> go on
[08:21] <lv856> ok
[08:21] <intelikey> lv856 the links ubotu sent are some very good reading.
[08:21] <redblade> is there an apache channel?
[08:21] <lv856> son u need to type in the ftp site in the fire fox browser
[08:21] <lv856> sorry i ment to say so*
[08:22] <lv856> ok?
[08:22] <etsb> lv856, i've installed vsftpd on the server..however on the ubuntu machine at Places>connect to Server it says Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.7
[08:22] <lv856> r u sure its the same site?
[08:22] <lv856> i mean have u typed it in correctly
[08:23] <lampshade> crimsun, so when my sound was jittery in Doom III, with ALSA, and then I switch it to OSS, why is that?  Is it just that Doom's programmers were more partial to OSS or who is really in control Doom III or Ubuntu, ugh I wish I understood the whole sound system more.   Does everything just run through one file  that represents the audio device and ALSA, OSS, etc are just ways of sharing that file?
[08:23] <brian_> alright updating the repositories now
[08:23] <etsb> lv856, is it the broadcast address or the other add?
[08:23] <bdash> is it possibly to run xgl on badger?
[08:24] <lv856> it could be the address
[08:24] <defrysk> bdash, not really
[08:24] <bdash> cheers
[08:24] <etsb> bcast or inet ?
[08:24] <intelikey> !cheers
[08:24] <ubotu> intelikey: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:25] <crimsun> lampshade: when you "switched" Doom III to use OSS output, you're still using ALSA's OSS emulation, which generally doesn't have any problems (always exceptions to every rule). It works on more systems, because many manufacturers create shoddy hardware that OSS works around. ALSA's much less forgiving.
[08:25] <lv856> check both
[08:25] <crimsun> lampshade: don't think in terms of "files" -- that's the old OSS way. Instead, think in terms of "devices."
[08:26] <lv856> dose the ftp have a password????
[08:26] <etsb> lv856, Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.255".
[08:26] <lv856> dose it haver pw
[08:26] <lv856> dose ftp have a passowrd???
[08:27] <etsb> lv856, no..all i did was sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[08:27] <etsb> lv856, i did not set any pword
[08:27] <lv856> k
[08:27] <allanh128> intelikey: Ok  I ran the command you suggested.  I copied the img file and the /boot dire  in /tmp/bootcd.  Now I need to make a bootable iso.  I've been reading the manfile for mkisofs and am a little confused on the switches.
[08:28] <ansinh> hi everyone
[08:28] <lv856> go to places and connect to sever then tyope in that thing swtf://whaterveisit
[08:28] <lv856> then connect
[08:28] <ansinh> I can't get my sound card working...I've ADI AD1986A in my Asus P4RD1-MX board
[08:29] <ansinh> and when ubuntu boot, it hang at starting hotplug subsystem
[08:29] <ansinh> I have to disable the sound card to get it boot into Gnome
[08:29] <brian_> brian@br1an:~$ whereis wmaker
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> Any way to password protect files/directories separate from your user pass other than making a different user and chown/chmod-ing?
[08:29] <brian_> wmaker: /usr/bin/wmaker /usr/bin/X11/wmaker /usr/share/man/man1/wmaker.1x.gz
[08:29] <brian_> w00t
[08:29] <lv856> im gonna be on diel
[08:29] <ansinh> anyone knows how to make my sound card work?
[08:29] <lv856> idel*
[08:29] <lv856> by by
[08:30] <intelikey> allanh128 i'v always just used xcdroast   or even k3b  to make my bootable iso's  so i probably can't help ya there.
[08:30] <brian_> if i want to make window maker my default manager instead of gnome, i edit xinitrc right?
[08:30] <etsb> lv856, nope doesnt work..
[08:31] <crimsun> !tell ansinh about alsa-source
[08:31] <redblade> How would I look to find a folder? I can use locate for files but what about a folder
[08:31] <crimsun> ansinh: follow those directions that were just sent to you
[08:31] <etsb> can someone please help me get my ftp to work
[08:31] <ansinh> yes....thx
[08:31] <crimsun> ansinh: moreover, you should choose the "hda intel" driver when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure step
[08:31] <lv856> damn
[08:32] <lv856> ummnmmm
[08:32] <allanh128> intelikey:  No problem.  I'll search some forums.  We are not running X,  it's just a server install
[08:32] <Fracture> anyone here use Xen on ubuntu ?
[08:32] <etsb> lv856, yeah damnnnnn
[08:32] <lv856> thats all i can think of ubnless thjere is somthing wrong with the ftp sever
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> redblade: locate will display folders with the files.
[08:32] <redblade> oh
[08:32] <ansinh> but i've disabled it from the BIOS
[08:32] <ansinh> will it work?
[08:32] <etsb> lv856, i dont know
[08:32] <redblade> in that case, where is htdocs?
[08:32] <etsb> anybody have any idas??
[08:33] <etsb> ideas*??
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> redblade: The only instance I have of that is in a mirror of the wiki I downloaded earlier today.
[08:33] <ansinh> or I've to enable it and press Ctrl+C when it starting hotplug subsystem?
[08:33] <crimsun> ansinh: just reenable it after you've installed the new drivers by following those directions.
[08:33] <geek|sauce> anyone know how to install limewire on ubuntu?
[08:33] <ansinh> yes...many thanks
[08:34] <duckdown> Hey all.. What do I need to get openssl for IRC working in Ubuntu?  When I connect to an SSL server in an SSL enabled IRC client it just connects, but doesn't seem to exchange certificates or whatever, and I can never actually log in.
[08:34] <lv856> chexk that the ftp sever is working
[08:34] <Razor-X> allanh128: Is this about cdrecord?
[08:34] <etsb> lv856, how do i check?
[08:34] <lv856> ummm
[08:35] <geek|sauce> !frostwire
[08:35] <ubotu> it has been said that frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[08:35] <etsb> It is activated by setting listen=YES in /etc/vsftpd.conf.
[08:35] <lv856> do u use a program to host it?
[08:35] <etsb> im looking in the man vsftpd
[08:36] <etsb> and it says It is activated by setting listen=YES in /etc/vsftpd.conf.
[08:36] <etsb> i'll try that
[08:36] <intelikey> aren't man pages wonderful.....
[08:37] <lv856> sorry i dont know now
[08:37] <geek|sauce> !java
[08:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:37] <Fracture> is itpossible to install ubuntu using deb boot strap ?
[08:37] <delmar> ok so ntfs write support is turned on by default when mounting an ntfs partition? thats kinda dangerous though I thought... i should mount it read-only surely?
[08:37] <Philipov> can I ask something
[08:38] <Philipov> I need someone to help me
[08:38] <Philipov> with this ubuntu
[08:38] <aftertaf> how hard is it to convert to lvm when already installed?
[08:38] <crimsun> Fracture: if you plan to use it in a secondary distro fashion, sure.
[08:38] <yahya> I did sudo apt-get remove apache.. but there's still a /etc/init.d/apache .. do I have to delete it manually?
[08:38] <crimsun> yahya: sudo dpkg -P apache
[08:39] <aftertaf> yahya: use --purge
[08:39] <yahya> crimsun: what does it do?
[08:39] <Madpilot> Philipov, just ask, don't ask to ask
[08:39] <crimsun> yahya: it purges any conffiles
[08:39] <Fracture> crimsun: yeah, I have a working ubuntu install, and I want to install ubuntu onto a spare filesystem without having to boot from the cd. (so I can keep using my pc)
[08:40] <crimsun> Fracture: sure, that's possible. You'll just have to edit the host grub/menu.lst manually.
[08:41] <Fracture> crimsun: you mean to be able to boot it afterwards ?
[08:41] <crimsun> Fracture: yes
[08:41] <geek|sauce> when i run the frostwire .deb file, i get an error message saying it is an unsupported archive type...
[08:41] <Fracture> crimsun: yeah, no worries. cool.
[08:42] <brian_> how do i drop into single user, or is it not safe to disable to gdm, just incase i can't configure X then i'm screwed right?
[08:42] <brian_> /usr/lib/WindowMaker/WindowMaker fatal error: it seems that there is already a window manager running
[08:42] <brian_> i want to run window maker, but i'm in gnome currently
[08:42] <Linux_Master> yo yo yo ppl
[08:42] <Linux_Master> how do i install jave??
[08:42] <Linux_Master> java*
[08:43] <crimsun> brian_: single user (telinit 1) has nothing to do with what you want. You just want: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:43] <timfrost> !java
[08:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:43] <brian_> crimsun: thanks
[08:43] <etsb> Direct execution of the vsftpd binary will then launch the FTP service
[08:43] <etsb>      ready for immediate client connections.--->what does this mean?
[08:44] <etsb> does anyone have experience in using vsftpd??
[08:44] <defrysk> !anyone
[08:44] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:44] <brian_> wmaker wouldnt load, do i need to configure xorgconfig?
[08:45] <etsb> anyone have experience in using vsftpd??
[08:46] <AngryElf> etsb, hint hint
[08:47] <lukey0> im trying to compile a program and its giving me a message saying it cant find gtk+-2.0, how can i fix that?
[08:47] <Madpilot> !b-e
[08:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:47] <Madpilot> lukey0, ^^^
[08:48] <lukey0> madpilot: ive already installed build-essential
[08:48] <kamran> can someone point me towards a tutorial or a guide on how to set up a i386 chroot on an amd64?
[08:48] <defrysk> lukey0, get the .dev package of gtk+-2.0
[08:48] <Madpilot> lukey0, hmm - find the gtk-dev stuff, then?
[08:49] <lukey0> can i use apt-get for that?
[08:50] <cafuego> !chroot
[08:50] <ubotu> well, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:50] <cafuego> The latter link.
[08:50] <etsb> AngryElf, can you help me?
[08:51] <Madpilot> lukey0, if you know the package names, yeah. Otherwise apt-cache search <search term>
[08:51] <etsb> frustrating
[08:52] <etsb> anyone have experience in using vsftpd??
[08:52] <timfrost> etsb, tell us what you need to know about vsftpd, and you *might* get an answer.
[08:53] <etsb> timfrost : i cant get it to work
[08:53] <heyjoe2-away> !frostwire
[08:53] <ubotu> I heard frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[08:54] <dli_> etsb, ask your specific question, otherwise you just sound like a sb
[08:54] <etsb> timfrost : vsftpd installed on server, trying to connect to server from client..but it says Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.7".
[08:55] <etsb>  vsftpd installed on server, trying to connect to server from client..but it says Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.7".
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used the voice capability of Gaim 2?  I'm looking for ways to reduce my phone bill.
[08:56] <dli_> tonyyarusso, I heard -vv is not in gaim-2.0 yet, try skype first
[08:57] <etsb>  vsftpd installed on server, trying to connect to server from client..but it says Couldn't display "sftp://etsb@192.168.1.7".
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> dli_: How's skype work?  I've never tried/seen it.
[08:57] <intelikey> i don't know much about ftp but do you have the server set up with a root directory and an index file (even a blank one)  so it will have something to display etsb ?
[08:58] <AngryElf> tonyyarusso, the more difficult problem you'll face is getting the person that you are calling to use the voice capabilities of *any* computer
[08:58] <dli_> tonyyarusso, I use skype to call my friends in taiwan, China, even better than most phonecards, and computer to computer is free
[08:58] <etsb> intelikey, i have a feeling that you are right...the problem is how
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> AngryElf: Why?  Is there something difficult about it?
[08:59] <intelikey> etsb there may be an example also     dpkg -lf vsftp | less
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> dli_: Free is very much the goal.
[08:59] <intelikey> and look for an *example*  file in that list.
[08:59] <intelikey> etsb ^
[09:00] <delmar> tonyyarusso, you could run your own little Asterisk server and link up your other clients/users that way.. via SIP/IAX
[09:00] <dli_> tonyyarusso, the only thing bad is, skype is not GPL
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> dli_: I'm still willing to consider it at least.
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> delmar: What does that even mean?
[09:01] <delmar> tonyyarusso, check out http://www.asterisk.org
[09:01] <dli_> tonyyarusso, tell me whether skype is in ubuntu, it's not in debian, because of the GPL issue
[09:01] <intelikey> etsb there may be man or info pages on the  /etc/vsftp.conf file also you can check that line of thought  with  man vsftp.conf   or  man vsftpd.conf  or what ever it's called.
[09:01] <delmar> tonyyarusso, but if you are wanting a 1 to 1 (1 people) phone solution... i wouldnt bother
[09:01] <delmar> tonyyarusso, but it is very good and easy to setup.
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> dli_: There's a Breezy deb available from Seveas.
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> delmar: How would I go about that SIP stuff?
[09:04] <dli_> tonyyarusso, gnomemeeting can do it also, but kind of crap to me :( skype is easy to use, and universal, linux, windows, mac, bsd,...
[09:04] <delmar> tonyyarusso, for a 1 to 1 (2 person) solution.. Asterisk is probably not so good... skype is probably the best answer.. despite my hatred for it.
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> delmar: All right.  Well, if I end up branching out I'll check your suggestion.
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> dli_: Will look into.  Thanks.
[09:06] <dli_> delmar, I don't like skype, but when can we get a GPL VoIP ?
[09:06] <delmar> dli_, Asterisk is about the closest thing i guess.
[09:07] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with the following problem: ive downloaded frostwire for debian/ubuntu from the web and when i try to open the file i get an error message
[09:07] <delmar> dli_, must be some GPL voip software for linux surely? something u just use the IP address as the calling number?
[09:07] <dli_> delmar, is asterisk also universal? available for windows, mac, bsd,...
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:07] <dli_> delmar, gnomemeeting does that
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> "./autogen.sh: line 8: aclocal: command not found
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> "
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> dli_: Mac, BSD yes, Windows no.
[09:07] <delmar> dli_, Asterisk is really a server/switch which you attach a voip client to.
[09:07] <delmar> its a full blown software PBX system
[09:08] <Sp4rKy> what's wrong ?
[09:08] <Sp4rKy> i've compil many other software (like e17 :)
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> dli_: I couldn't get gnomemeeting to work with an IP, only sip something or other.
[09:08] <dli_> delmar, I will wait to see gaim, which is universal
[09:08] <geek|sauce> excuse the n00b question, but what's the command to unpack a .deb file, specifically frostwire?
[09:08] <dli_> tonyyarusso, I tested, gnomemeeting with a windows (netmeeting)
[09:08] <w0rm9> how to login guest without password ???
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> dli_: Huh.
[09:09] <fn_> any body tried creating local repository server ?
[09:09] <delmar> dli_, sounds cool
[09:09] <fn_> i need url to read
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> fn_: Seveas does it if nobody else.
[09:09] <kamran> can you setup chroot environments with any distro you want?
[09:09] <Sp4rKy> i think
[09:09] <jc2> geek|sauce : dpkg -i file.deb just worked for me. (Can I get a confirmation on this?)
[09:09] <dli_> tonyyarusso, amsn is nice but not international by design
[09:10] <xiO__> jc2: yes, might need sudo first
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> dli_: I don't much need international as far as language, etc.  Just Canada-USA.
[09:10] <xiO__> ie, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:10] <delmar> Anyone here using Ext2Fsd on winXP to read/write ext2/3 under XP? I installed it but..it thinks it needs to format the partitions .. when they are already formated with ext2/3. grrr.
[09:10] <delmar> thats windows i guess.
[09:10] <fn_> tonyyarusso:Seveas ? is he online ?
[09:10] <Fracture> crimsun: if I install the same version of ubuntu using debootstrap, am I able to chroot to it and then use the apt to install other packages ?
[09:11] <Sp4rKy> what must i install to don't have an "aclocal : not found" error on some compil ?
[09:11] <yahya> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start    doesn't work but sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start does.. whats wrong?
[09:11] <dli_> tonyyarusso, much easier then, but I speak Chinese
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> fn_: He's on, don't know if he's paying attention.
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> dli_: That would do it.
[09:11] <timfrost> Sp4rKy, have you installed automake? aclocal is in that package
[09:11] <fn_> how many free space i should provide to create a breezy repository server ?
[09:11] <crimsun> Fracture: sure
[09:11] <Fracture> that is bloody cool
[09:11] <intelikey> kamran if you are asking if all distros support chroot,  all major ones do.  something like dsl or the like might be a little tricky and need added software.   but if you are asking if you can chroot into another distro,  no.
[09:12] <Fracture> crimsun: what is the 'base' install contain ?  is it the same as the server install ?
[09:12] <fn_> Seveas: do you have a good url about creating local repo server ?
[09:12] <crimsun> Fracture: no, server contains much more than just base
[09:12] <intelikey> compatability problems with glibc ^ major problem.
[09:13] <Fracture> crimsun: how can I upgrade a base install to a server ?
[09:13] <Fracture> or, can I use debootstrap to install a 'server' ?
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> timfrost, it seems to work better now :) thx !
[09:13] <crimsun> Fracture: you probably want more than a server install
[09:14] <geek|sauce> jc2: i did that with sudo and it unpacked it and said "setting up frostwire" and nothing happened
[09:14] <Fracture> crimsun: ok, let me re-phrase that :)  is it possible to use the ubuntu installed to dothis ?
[09:14] <geek|sauce> jc2: nevermind...it's working now
[09:14] <geek|sauce> thanks again :)
[09:15] <crimsun> Fracture: not easily. You'll find it easier to pull from the repo (use the chrooted Ubuntu install as a self-contained one).
[09:15] <intelikey> Fracture if you have the base system installed, just add apache2 openssl-server php if you like  even mysql     in other words just add the services you want to run.
[09:15] <intelikey> !lamp
[09:15] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:16] <athlon> !firewall
[09:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[09:17] <intelikey> also of note google quicktables for a cli "quick setup" of iptables.
[09:18] <tsw> hmm maybe the wiki should have somekind of information about suphp
[09:19] <intelikey> tsw wiki is user supported  afik
[09:19] <tsw> yes (I just dont have time to write :)
[09:20] <squeaka2> o
[09:20] <squeaka2> hello
[09:20] <Kingmilo> hi guys.
[09:20] <intelikey> !ask
[09:21] <jetscreamer> wrong bot
[09:21] <intelikey> so that infonode is just a bit to long for the channel now.....  hmmmm
[09:21] <Kingmilo> I have LAN interface working 100%, but my wireless is recognised and i set it up but it doesnt working nudda. any ideas
[09:21] <squeaka2> wat is de voornam
[09:21] <intelikey> no no ubotu answered....  just in pm
[09:21] <Kingmilo> ubuntu is taking so long to load profiles, and it never saves the profile that i last used, i always have to change it
[09:21] <Fracture> crimsun, intelikey : thanks guys
[09:22] <squeaka2> goobay
[09:22] <squeaka2> gootbay
[09:22] <dli_> Kingmilo, are you running livecd?
[09:22] <Kingmilo> dli, no install
[09:23] <Kingmilo> i can see no routes are setup
[09:24] <dli_> Kingmilo, are you using wep or wpa?
[09:25] <Kingmilo> open
[09:25] <Kingmilo> hex
[09:25] <dli_> Kingmilo, what's in "iwconfig", can you "ifup" the interface?
[09:25] <dli_> Kingmilo, what's the wlan card? is it supported?
[09:26] <Kingmilo> the card is supported
[09:26] <Kingmilo> iwconfig comes with info for eth1 which is the wifi
[09:26] <Kingmilo> unassociated tho
[09:26] <Kingmilo> got right key and ssid tho
[09:26] <dli_> Kingmilo, disable the key and try again
[09:27] <Kingmilo> ok
[09:27] <shoo> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and i am new to all of this. i have a pc wifi card netgear and i need help. its not recignizing it and i got told i will need to do something to the kernal can somebody please help me?
[09:28] <Kingmilo> just on another note, the hours glass runs for quite a while before i am even able to change settings, and even longer when i change profile
[09:28] <Kingmilo> and it never keeps the default gateway device
[09:28] <Kingmilo> always losing settings
[09:28] <AngryElf> just curious, anyone here gotten the bcm43xx drivers working with an airport card?
[09:29] <dli_> Kingmilo, can you get it work manually?
[09:30] <dli_> Kingmilo, disable encryption on both ends
[09:30] <Kingmilo> sheesh takes forever to activate interface
[09:30] <Kingmilo> ok
[09:30] <Kingmilo> i get network unreachable
[09:30] <Kingmilo> when i try ping
[09:30] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with getting frostwire to work. i downloaded the debian/ubuntu version from the website in .deb format but when i try to open the file it says " could not open frostwire" archive type not supported
[09:30] <Kingmilo> i dont get it, how can it activate the device if the encryption doesnt match dli_?
[09:31] <scav> heyjoe2: how are you trying to open it?
[09:31] <dli_> Kingmilo, use your LAN to control the router
[09:31] <heyjoe2> double clicking it, not by using the command line
[09:31] <dli_> Kingmilo, choose no encryption
[09:31] <lim^> where amarok for windows?
[09:31] <scav> try the command line way... "sudo dpkg -i packaename"
[09:31] <lim^> where download amarok for windows?
[09:32] <Kingmilo> dli_, but i dont want to be plugged into the lan
[09:32] <dli_> scav, "sudo apt-get install package"
[09:32] <heyjoe2> scav: do i type it exactly like that
[09:32] <dli_> Kingmilo, to set it up, you need lan
[09:32] <shoo> i installed ubuntu this morning, and i cant get my netgear wifi card to work, what do i do?
[09:32] <heyjoe2> scav: or do i have to put the frostwire file name in
[09:33] <scav> instead of package name the file name
[09:33] <intelikey> heyjoe package should be translated.
[09:33] <heyjoe2> scav: ok
[09:33] <dli_> shoo, I believe netgear is supported?
[09:33] <shoo> i dont know
[09:33] <dli_> shoo, what's in lspci?
[09:33] <shoo> my card thingy is wg511
[09:34] <heyjoe2> scav: will just typing frostwire suffice?
[09:34] <intelikey> heyjoe also of note  you may want to use  'apt-cache search <package>'  to find the exact package name.
[09:34] <Kingmilo> dli_, are u saying to setup my wireless i need LAN ?
[09:34] <heyjoe2> scav: or do i need FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:34] <dli_> Kingmilo, to setup your router, I suppose you need LAN
[09:34] <intelikey> heyjoe again package should be translated.
[09:34] <dli_> Kingmilo, you need some way to control your router
[09:34] <shoo> what is Ispci?
[09:34] <heyjoe2> how do i find out the package name for frostwire exactly?
[09:34] <kamran> can someone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/588491
[09:35] <shoo> im sorry :( im new
[09:35] <timfrost> heyjoe2, type 'sudo dpkg -i  FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb'
[09:35] <Kingmilo> ok dli_, forget about router, i was talkin about # route -n . But let me try setting up my wireless from scratch
[09:35] <heyjoe2> timfrost: i got this error msg- dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb (--install):
[09:35] <heyjoe2>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:35] <heyjoe2> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:35] <heyjoe2>  FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:36] <dli_> kamran, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:36] <dli_> Kingmilo, disable encryption first
[09:36] <dli_> Kingmilo, after it works, you can setup encryption later
[09:37] <pluffsy> hello
[09:37] <heyjoe2> i typed apt-cache search frostwire and nothing happens
[09:37] <pluffsy> anyone here tried ubuntu on intel macs yet? any idea when a stable release will be avaliable?
[09:37] <lkih> is this just a chat forum
[09:37] <Kingmilo> dli_, encryption is straight forward tho
[09:37] <Kingmilo> hex 64
[09:37] <Kingmilo> :/
[09:38] <theine> shoo: to get info about <insert_command>, type: man <insert_command>
[09:38] <lkih> this is my first time getting the x chat running and i havent got a clue is to what to use it for
[09:38] <tawker> hi
[09:38] <theine> shoo: i.e.: man lspci
[09:38] <Kingmilo> dli_, shud i maybe edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:38] <lkih> obviously to chat
[09:38] <Kingmilo> do this manually
[09:38] <dli_> Kingmilo, do it manually first
[09:38] <dli_> Kingmilo, then, you know how to make interfaces
[09:39] <crimsun> pluffsy: one of the developers has dapper working mostly
[09:39] <heyjoe2> can anyone offer any more help on getting my frostwire .deb file to run
[09:39] <timfrost> heyjoe2, you need to cd to the directory that you downloaded the file to (probably ~/Desktop or ~/My\ Downloads).  And please use pastebin, even for that error (basically anything more than 1 line of output)
[09:39] <Kingmilo> dli_, what service do i start/stop in inet.d ?
[09:39] <theine> heyjoe2: what problem are you having?
[09:39] <Kingmilo> networking?
[09:39] <pluffsy> crimsun: cool. I get a macbook tomorrow, and I would really like to able to dual-boot it with ubuntu
[09:39] <dli_> Kingmilo, ifup/ifdown is enough
[09:40] <Kingmilo> ok
[09:40] <mihatsu> how i can lock a program version in apt-get
[09:40] <heyjoe2> theine: ive downloaded frostwire for debian/ubuntu from the web and when i try to open it i get an error message
[09:40] <pluffsy> crimsun: is it mainly an issue of getting an EFI bootloader to work with ubuntu, or are there other problems?
[09:40] <dli_> pluffsy, is macbook supported yet?
[09:40] <shoo> okay
[09:40] <theine> heyjoe2: what's the error message?
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i am wondering what the program is that is makeing his ubuntu look like this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6735&d=1141562738
[09:40] <gean> hi all !
[09:40] <pluffsy> dli_: I don't think any intel macs are supported yet. but I don't know.
[09:40] <crimsun> pluffsy: oh, that's long resolved. It's mostly smaller things like sound now.
[09:40] <heyjoe2> theine: the error message says- could not open, archive type not supported
[09:40] <shoo> how does that help me to get my card to be recognised?
[09:40] <dli_> pluffsy, then, you cannot install :(
[09:40] <intelikey> lkih this channel is specificly for support,  not for "chat" per se    but you can ask your questions about xchat or linux here.
[09:40] <theine> heyjoe2: what are trying to do with the .deb file?
[09:41] <heyjoe2> theine: i just double clicked it, i presume to install frostwire
[09:41] <theine> heyjoe2: that's not the way to do it
[09:41] <pluffsy> crimsun: ahh I see. stuff like the fan control, is that something ubuntu needs to implement?
[09:41] <heyjoe2> theine: ah ok, no auto install?
[09:41] <gean> have some problem with an extern HD, nautilus can mount it as /media/sda1 (first time, then if i forget to unmount it...) but it has some bit-error, how can i format it ?!
[09:41] <crimsun> pluffsy: perhaps. I'm not actively hacking on it (lack the hardware).
[09:41] <theine> heyjoe2: is it on your desktop? and what is the file called?
[09:42] <heyjoe2> theine: it is on my desktop, file called FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:42] <theine> heyjoe2: open up a terminal please
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so can anyone tell me how this was done? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6735&d=1141562738
[09:42] <heyjoe2> theine: ok
[09:42] <theine> heyjoe2: sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:43] <Kingmilo> dli_, looks like its trying to communicate with acess point (looking for DHCP)
[09:43] <pluffsy> crimsun: right. do you know if official support for the intel macs are planned in dapperdrake?
[09:43] <dli_> Kingmilo, check messages in the router
[09:43] <heyjoe2> theine: ok i get what appears to be an error msg. can i pastebin?
[09:43] <concept10> ChurcH_of_FoamY, looks like simple gdesklet applets
[09:43] <theine> heyjoe2: sure
[09:44] <heyjoe2> theine: actually wait, it might be working, think i was looking at an old terminal folder
[09:45] <heyjoe2> theine: cool, it appears in my internet folder under applications. thanks alot
[09:45] <theine> heyjoe2: you're welcome
[09:45] <heyjoe2> theine: just for my future knowledge, so no linux programmes self install, you always have to use terminal?
[09:46] <onkarshinde> Anybody here using Sony Ericsson bluetooth enabled phones? I would like them to try out the remote control configuration file for Totem.
[09:46] <heyjoe2> theine: wait up, when i click on the icon nothing appears to be happening
[09:46] <ubuntu> hi
[09:46] <theine> heyjoe2: if you download them from the net, then in most cases yes, but all applications available in the Ubuntu repositories you can install in a graphical manner with Synaptic package manager
[09:47] <Fang> Hi all
[09:47] <ubuntu> german peope?
[09:47] <psyklops> is it possible to set up a program to run when you click both mouse buttons at once?
[09:47] <theine> heyjoe2: maybe you got an error message after all when you installed frostwire
[09:47] <das_cookie> hello
[09:47] <theine> heyjoe2: what was the output of "sudo dpkg -i ..."
[09:47] <heyjoe2> theine: http://pastebin.com/588500
[09:47] <Fang> I'm a bit confused about what I should install in order to have basic LaTeX availability
[09:47] <timfrost> !de
[09:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:47] <Fang> i.e. editing and viewing
[09:48] <gean> ubuntu  : there is a german chan (but rather empty usually now) for ubuntu related stuff
[09:48] <rob> !gr
[09:48] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[09:48] <pitti> Fang: tetex-bin is the basic latex package
[09:48] <theine> heyjoe2: that look's fine
[09:48] <Fang> pitti: thanks, I'll start with that
[09:48] <onkarshinde> Anybody here using Sony Ericsson bluetooth enabled phones? I would like them to try out the remote control configuration file for Totem.
[09:48] <djp> can anyone tell me what are the best images to use for icons in the menu panel? png or xpm?
[09:48] <theine> heyjoe2: try to launch frostwire from the terminal
[09:49] <ubuntu> cu
[09:49] <heyjoe2> theine: whats the command to launch from terminal?
[09:49] <gean> Fang : yes, tetex-* is all one needs related to latex & CO
[09:49] <theine> heyjoe2: hint: type "frost<TAB>"
[09:49] <tawker> does anyone know of any probles installing in a ibm thinkpad 1130
[09:49] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[09:49] <Fang> gean: thank you
[09:49] <tawker> I'm trying to install breezy but it hangs on the "cd rom detection"
[09:49] <theine> heyjoe2: where <TAB> stands for the actual TAB key on your keyboard
[09:50] <heyjoe2> theine: it says something about java, but i swear ive installed java twice, once from synaptic and once from the web
[09:50] <theine> heyjoe2: maybe you shouldn't have done that twice...
[09:50] <NoWhereMan> I was wondering if in dapper we will still have problems upgrading firefox to (eventually) ffox 2.0 (when it's released)
[09:50] <heyjoe2> theine: cos when i was trying to launch something else it asked for java
[09:50] <theine> heyjoe2: on the other hand... I think it's actually fine to do that
[09:51] <theine> heyjoe2: how did you install java?
[09:51] <heyjoe2> theine: i think it was two different types of java
[09:51] <theine> heyjoe2: probably blackdown and sun
[09:51] <heyjoe2> theine: first, i followed a link from a wiki i think. second, someone on here gave me instructions on how to do it via synaptic
[09:51] <onkarshinde> NoWhereMan: I guess before FF 2.0 is released you will have another version of Ubuntu ;)
[09:51] <heyjoe2> theine: yes those two
[09:51] <gean> Fang : make sure you also have gv, emacs, the many latex helpers (e.g. lacheck or so), just start synaptic (i did it so), section TEX is already enabled, make sure u have universe and multiverse as loaded repositories and install all it's needed..
[09:51] <hello_german_peo> hiho
[09:51] <tvliegend> hello
[09:51] <purpleidea> does anyone know if there are repositories for dapper flight 4 (ie: repositories in addition to the flight4 install cd)
[09:51] <theine> heyjoe2: so what error message are you getting when you launch frostwire from the terminal?
[09:52] <heyjoe2> theine: it says i need to upgrade to java jre 1.4
[09:52] <gean> Fang : the beamer package is useful for slide-shows ! check it out!
[09:52] <NoWhereMan> onkarshinde: maybe, but my question is in fact another :P I mean, still so many dependency problems?
[09:52] <theine> hmm
[09:52] <heyjoe2> http://pastebin.com/588504
[09:52] <tvliegend> are there any hot girls to day
[09:52] <shoo> how can i install my wifi card (netgear) if the system wont recognise it?>??
[09:52] <Fang> gean: oh, didn't see that TeX section :p
[09:52] <FallenHitokiri> how can i get a working e17?
[09:52] <theine> heyjoe2: can you tell me how you installed sun's java?
[09:52] <hello_german_peo> where are you? i'm from german!
[09:52] <onkarshinde> NoWhereMan: Yup. Upgrading firefox won't be easy enough.
[09:52] <Fang> I've started installation of tetex-bin and folks, I'll check the section when it's done
[09:52] <NoWhereMan> onkarshinde: bad news :(
[09:52] <heyjoe2> theine: i think i did sun from the web and jr from synaptic
[09:53] <DJ_t> how do i find out which version of SDL I am using?
[09:53] <hello_german_peo> i can't english very well
[09:53] <theine> heyjoe2: yes, but how exactly did you install java from the web?
[09:53] <enyc> DJ_t: erm in a package?
[09:53] <onkarshinde> Could anyone review http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote and make comments?
[09:53] <theine> heyjoe2: do you remember to have used commands involving fakeroot and make-jpkg?
[09:53] <hello_german_peo> join ubuntu-de
[09:53] <DJ_t> enyc, well, i am playing nwn and trying to put a patch and it is sdl version specific
[09:54] <heyjoe2> theine: no
[09:54] <heyjoe2> theine: maybe i just downloaded the file and did nothing with it?
[09:54] <tvliegend> hoi ivka
[09:54] <enyc> DJ_t: not useod nwn
[09:54] <hello_german_peo> cuuuuuuuuuu
[09:54] <theine> heyjoe2: or perhaps you just executed the .bin file?
[09:55] <heyjoe2> theine: should i look on download manager? how do i get to it? im not sure if i executed the file.
[09:55] <enyc> DJ_t: erm... version in breezy [5.10]  is ' 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-5.3ubuntu2'
[09:55] <psyklops00> is it possible to set up a program to run when you click both mouse buttons at once? anyone?
[09:55] <theine> heyjoe2: what's the output of "which java"?
[09:56] <heyjoe2> /usr/bin/java
[09:56] <timfrost> hello_german_peo, try '/j #ubuntu-de'
[09:56] <ompaul> onkarshinde, just from a presentation point of view I would make that url a "tiny" url
[09:56] <heyjoe2> theine: /usr/bin/java
[09:56] <enyc> psyklops00: usually both buttons means middle-click unless you tell the xserver not to use 'emulate3buttons'
[09:56] <theine> heyjoe2: and the output of "dpkg -S /usr/bin/java"?
[09:56] <heyjoe2> dpkg: /usr/bin/java not found.
[09:56] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Ok. I never used tinyurl. May be you can update it if you know exactly how to do it.
[09:56] <ompaul> onkarshinde, and tell people they are on their way to rediff.com
[09:57] <ompaul> onkarshinde, it is too simple consider it donw
[09:57] <onkarshinde> ompaul: And why is that necessary?
[09:57] <theine> heyjoe2: and the output of "dpkg -l | grep j2re"?
[09:57] <ompaul> onkarshinde, some people might have issues not knowing where they are going, I know some people like that ... it takes all sorts
[09:58] <timfrost> theine, heyjoe2 needs to use 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' to select /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[09:58] <psyklops00> enyc: ok, is there any way to run programs using just the mouse, not by clicking on something but just button presses?
[09:58] <DJ_t> enyc, i just updated to this kernel though
[09:58] <DJ_t> Linux slave 2.6.15.6
[09:58] <Zag0R> hi! i have a big noise... i can't see the icon on the bar when i minimize windows do y now why?
[09:59] <enyc> DJ_t: hrrm
[09:59] <enyc> DJ_t: kernel only??
[09:59] <onkarshinde> ompaul: SInce you are putting tinyurl, will you do that also?
[09:59] <enyc> DJ_t: updated to whole dapper system ?
[09:59] <gean> have some problem with an extern HD, nautilus can mount it as /media/sda1 (first time, then if i forget to unmount it...) but it has some bit-error, how can i format it ?!
[09:59] <DJ_t> enyc, kernel only
[09:59] <theine> heyjoe2: right, do: update-alternatives --display java
[09:59] <enyc> DJ_t: thats not related to sdl
[09:59] <ompaul> onkarshinde, as soon as I figure out where the second line in that box is yeap
[09:59] <heyjoe2> sorry if im a bit behind
[09:59] <heyjoe2> just had an important phone clal
[09:59] <DJ_t> enyc, k thanks :)
[10:00] <chuckyp> So to upgrade to dapper just change all instances of breezy to dapper in sources.list right?
[10:00] <theine> heyjoe2: pastebin the output of "update-alternatives --display java"
[10:00] <DJ_t> enyc, what is dapper system?
[10:00] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I didn't get you.
[10:00] <enyc> chuckyp: probably.. and opt-get dist-upgrade .... but its in prerelease and may BREAK ;-) -- and thi discussion for dapper is #ubuntu+1 channel -- not here
[10:01] <enyc> DJ_t: the _next_ release of ubuntu -- 'Dapper' / 'Dapper Drake'
[10:01] <heyjoe2> http://pastebin.com/588509
[10:01] <enyc> DJ_t: not released yot
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !gdesklets
[10:01] <ubotu> I heard gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[10:01] <enyc> DJ_t: not released yet
[10:01] <heyjoe2> theine: http://pastebin.com/588509
[10:01] <DJ_t> enyc, oh ok
[10:01] <chuckyp> enyc, whats the channel again?
[10:02] <enyc> chuckyp: #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ompaul> onkarshinde, done and dusted
[10:02] <enyc> chuckyp: dapper is to be released late next month, its not released/'ready' yet
[10:02] <theine> heyjoe2: what's the output of "dpkg -S /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java"
[10:02] <ompaul> onkarshinde, have a look
[10:02] <serpentaz> movies
[10:02] <heyjoe2> theine: all i get is >
[10:03] <heyjoe2> woops i stuffed it up
[10:03] <serpentaz> list movies
[10:03] <chuckyp> enyc, I know its not ready yet i'm not on a production machine just my home box.
[10:03] <ompaul> onkarshinde, tinyurl.com takes long urls and returns the url as a redirection as around 24/25 characters
[10:03] <theine> heyjoe2: that should be a one-liner
[10:03] <enyc> chuckyp: well discuss in the #ubuntu+1 channel ;-)
[10:03] <theine> heyjoe2: without quotation marks
[10:03] <heyjoe2> j2re1.4: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java
[10:04] <DJ_t> enyc, if i update my SDL with source, that wont mess my computer up will it?
[10:04] <theine> heyjoe2: hmm, that all looks fine
[10:04] <enyc> DJ_t: errrrm
[10:04] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I will remember to use it next time.
[10:04] <theine> heyjoe2: so frostwire doesn't seem to work with blackdowns java
[10:04] <enyc> DJ_t: dont install nonpackaged software if you dont know what you doing ;-)
[10:04] <theine> heyjoe2: install sun's java
[10:04] <ompaul> onkarshinde, you don't have to unless it is pushing boxes off to the side, its a handy tool
[10:04] <heyjoe2> how do i do that?
[10:05] <theine> heyjoe2: have you downloaded a .bin file from sun's website?
[10:05] <heyjoe2> theine: i believe so
[10:05] <heyjoe2> theine: but i cant find it on my computer?
[10:05] <theine> heyjoe2: it's not on your desktop?
[10:06] <heyjoe2> theine: nope
[10:06] <heyjoe2> theine: jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:07] <theine> heyjoe2: that's on your desktop?
[10:07] <heyjoe2> theine: i accidentally trashed it
[10:07] <heyjoe2> theine: but now its on my desktop
[10:07] <DJ_t> enyc, i do know what im doing :)
[10:08] <hyperstream_> hmm
[10:08] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I would like people with SE phones to try this out. And since we don't need to install any additional software (like in Windows) this will be very good feature.
[10:08] <DJ_t> enyc, where exactly is SDL located
[10:08] <theine> heyjoe2: ok, now: chmod +x ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:08] <DJ_t> its just a library correct?
[10:08] <ompaul> have you assembled a bluetooth factoid?
[10:08] <intelikey> just out of curiosity, where does ub/gnome keep it's desktop ?   is it  $HOME/   or   $HOME/Desktop/   or where ?
[10:08] <theine> intelikey: the latter
[10:08] <rie> how to sharing on ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[10:08] <hyperstream_> !nvidia
[10:08] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:09] <intelikey> k ty
[10:09] <heyjoe2> theine: i get no response when i do that
[10:09] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Like what? What ever is mentioned on those two pages was sufficient for me to get things working.
[10:09] <theine> heyjoe2: that's ok, now: sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[10:09] <rie> help.... anyone know
[10:10] <heyjoe2> theine: ok something positive looking seems to be happening
[10:10] <onkarshinde> !bluetooth
[10:10] <ubotu> from memory, bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[10:11] <theine> heyjoe2: when it's done: fakeroot make-jpkg ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:11] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Should I add the BluetoothRemote page to ubotu's definition?
[10:11] <intelikey> rie sharing what ?    inet connection     samba    sshd    ftpd   ?
[10:11] <heyjoe2> theine: this is the last command- Setting up java-package (0.26) ...
[10:11] <heyjoe2> frank@ubuntu:~$
[10:11] <heyjoe2> theine: is it done?
[10:11] <theine> heyjoe2: yes
[10:11] <theine> heyjoe2: do the fakeroot thing
[10:12] <heyjoe2> theine: done etected product:
[10:12] <heyjoe2>     Java(TM) Runtime Environment (J2RE)
[10:12] <heyjoe2>     Standard Edition, Version 1.5.0+update06
[10:12] <heyjoe2>     Sun Microsystems(TM), Inc.
[10:12] <heyjoe2> Is this correct [Y/n] :
[10:12] <onkarshinde> ubotu: bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[10:12] <ubotu> ...but bluetooth is already something else...
[10:12] <heyjoe2> theine: should i type yes
[10:12] <rob> heh
[10:12] <theine> heyjoe2: definately
[10:12] <onkarshinde> ubotu: forget bluetooth
[10:12] <ubotu> i forgot bluetooth, onkarshinde
[10:12] <rob> gota love ubotu
[10:12] <onkarshinde> ubotu: bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[10:12] <onkarshinde> !ubotu
[10:12] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:13] <theine> heyjoe2: and do accept the license agreement as well
[10:13] <onkarshinde> !bluetooth
[10:13] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, onkarshinde
[10:13] <onkarshinde> ubotu: bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[10:13] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[10:13] <heyjoe2> ok
[10:13] <onkarshinde> !bluetooth
[10:13] <Langly> Ubugtu: do people play with your pecker alot?
[10:13] <intelikey> !botsnack
[10:13] <ubotu> thanks intelikey :)
[10:13] <Langly> Ubutu: do people play with your pecker alot?
[10:13] <Langly> damn it
[10:13] <rob> !botabuse
[10:13] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:14] <heyjoe2> theine: is everything ok http://pastebin.com/588516
[10:14] <ompaul> onkarshinde, I linked to your Remote pate to the top of bluetooth setup
[10:14] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Ok. And I have updated ubotu's definition.
[10:15] <theine> heyjoe2: no, do: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:15] <Fracture> in a chroot environment, I have an ISO of the ubuntu install cd, how do I add it to /etc/apt/sources.list so that apt can use it ?
[10:15] <onkarshinde> ompaul: You put 'Unbuntu' instead of 'Ubuntu'
[10:15] <rob> haha
[10:15] <heyjoe2> theine: theres more now
[10:16] <theine> heyjoe2: ?
[10:16] <Ashly> !identd
[10:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Ashly
[10:16] <heyjoe2> theine: http://pastebin.com/588518
[10:17] <theine> heyjoe2: did you do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[10:17] <heyjoe2> not yet
[10:17] <heyjoe2> theine: ill do now
[10:18] <heyjoe2> it says after unpacking 33mb of disk space will be used. proceed?
[10:18] <theine> heyjoe2: yeah
[10:18] <Sp4rKy> what's the command to take a screenshot ?
[10:18] <mihatsu> i try to lock amsn version sudo echo amsn hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections and then i ran sudo apt-get update. now i try to run apt-get upgrade but i gives me E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header. Any ideas how fix my apt?
[10:19] <heyjoe2> theine: the last line says setting up build essential
[10:19] <pirmano> how do you allow non-root user permissions to hdd device in fstab? autogenerated fstab allows only root
[10:19] <theine> heyjoe2: good, are there any .deb packages on your desktop?
[10:19] <heyjoe2> theine: yes frostwire
[10:20] <theine> heyjoe2: fakeroot make-jpkg ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:20] <mylo> is there openoffice.org2-base in ubuntu hoary (5.04) ?
[10:21] <Sp4rKy> what's the command to take a screenshot ?
[10:21] <heyjoe2> theine: cool http://pastebin.com/588524
[10:21] <dli_> Sp4rKy, import , scrot, ksnapshot, or go to gnome Desktop -> take screenshot
[10:21] <heyjoe2> theine: choose yes right?
[10:22] <Sp4rKy> dli_, thx
[10:22] <theine> heyjoe2: right
[10:22] <heyjoe2> theine: now the licensing agreement again
[10:22] <Overand> Is it just me, or are there a lot of resources on the ubuntu site that are tricky to *find* ?
[10:23] <theine> heyjoe2: accept
[10:23] <heyjoe2> theine: yep
[10:23] <Overand> like, for example, finding daily builds, finding ubuntu-server, etc
[10:23] <heyjoe2> theine: okay it appears to be building a package
[10:23] <crimsun> Overand: no, you mean counterintuitive. Nothing's tricky to those who know.
[10:24] <heyjoe2> The Debian package has been created in the current directory. You can
[10:24] <heyjoe2> install the package as root (e.g. dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb).
[10:24] <Overand> crimsun: so, is there any way to navigate to these things *without* using the site search?
[10:24] <crimsun> Overand: sure. 1) ask in here, someone's bound to know. 2) Use Google.
[10:25] <theine> heyjoe2: what's the output of "ls ~/*.deb"?
[10:25] <Overand> In other words- had I not known that there was an 'ubuntu-server' version, i wouldn't have been able to find it
[10:25] <Zag0R> hi! i have a big noise... i can't see the minimize windows on the gnome-paneldo y now why?
[10:25] <heyjoe2> theine: /home/frank/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:25] <Overand> had a friend of mine said 'i installed ubuntu on my server' instead of 'ubuntu-server' i would have downloaded a different installer, etc
[10:25] <theine> heyjoe2: sudo dpkg -i ~/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[10:26] <Fable> http://ubuntuforum.org/showthread.php?s=c5f4d05dd862b81a6a512727a8e889e6&t=140439
[10:26] <crimsun> Overand: it doesn't matter ultimately. You can always get from point A to point B. They're just different _defaults_.
[10:26] <Overand> crimsun: I don't agree at all.
[10:26] <hyperstream_> hmm is there anyway to change xchat-gnome to the orginial xchat layout look
[10:26] <dbzdeath> can someone point me to a guide on creating ubuntu debs?
[10:26] <Fracture> when installing a ubuntu system, is the 'ubuntu-desktop' the main package that is installed, or are there others ?
[10:26] <Overand> It feels al ot like running an app that has had all of its GUI config options removed,and expecting the user to know the check in ~/.appname/config.whatever
[10:26] <heyjoe2> theine: want me to pastebin?
[10:27] <crimsun> Overand: what you seek is documentation clarification, not the belabouring of a point we all understand.
[10:27] <theine> heyjoe2: why not?
[10:27] <Overand> crimsun: What I *seek* are links on the site to anything at all other than the latest stable release.
[10:27] <heyjoe2> theine: http://pastebin.com/588534
[10:28] <crimsun> Overand: that doesn't make sense. Why would you link to things that haven't been released?
[10:28] <Overand> I'm not really into intentional obfuscation.
[10:28] <Overand> crimsun: how about ubuntu-server ?
[10:28] <Overand> 5.10
[10:28] <theine> heyjoe2: nice, now: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:28] <crimsun> Overand: do you follow the announcement mailing lists?
[10:28] <heyjoe2> there are four alternatives, which should i choose
[10:28] <theine> heyjoe2: which options do you have?
[10:28] <Overand> crimsun: no, that's the POINT.
[10:28] <theine> heyjoe2: can you pastebin?
[10:29] <Overand> As a new user to ubuntu, hitting the site provided me with NO info about this stuff.
[10:29] <Fracture> when using a chroot environment, how do I allow X apps to use the current desktop ?
[10:29] <heyjoe2> theine: http://pastebin.com/588536
[10:29] <Overand> I wouldn't expect to have to dig through mailing list archives to find out basic info about links on the main site to apparently *stable* releases
[10:29] <theine> heyjoe2: choose 4
[10:29] <Agent_bob> Overand 5.10 = latest stable
[10:29] <Overand> Agent_bob: and ubuntu-server 5.10 == stable, yes?
[10:30] <heyjoe2> theine: `/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[10:30] <Agent_bob> yes
[10:30] <theine> heyjoe2: good, now try launch frostwire from the terminal again
[10:30] <Overand> Agent_bob: so tell me how, using hyperlinks, i would get to the ubuntu-server download page from www.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <heyjoe2> hey hey hey
[10:30] <Overand> PLEASE tell me I'm missing something here
[10:30] <heyjoe2> theine: thank u so much
[10:30] <theine> heyjoe2: no problem
[10:30] <crimsun> Overand: no, it's NOT stable. That's what you're missing.
[10:30] <theine> heyjoe2: i'm glad it works now
[10:31] <Overand> crimsun: that is useful to know.
[10:31] <Agent_bob> errr wait.    Overand  i'm not sure about server...  the server install of 5.10 is stable   but  6.4 will have a server release   as well as desktop release with server install   iirc.
[10:31] <Overand> crimsun: would you consider hoary to be 'stable' ?
[10:31] <crimsun> Overand: in other words, ubuntu-server exists, but the fact that you can use it is a coincidence. It will not be a fully supported stable release until Dapper.
[10:32] <theine> crimsun: 5.10 is not stable??
[10:32] <crimsun> theine: no, that's not at all what I said.
[10:32] <theine> crimsun: ah, ok
[10:32] <gean> question, PLEASE : partitioning : how can i enlarge my working partition without [backup all, format all, edit new partition table]  ?! Does gparted work for this purpose ?!
[10:32] <theine> crimsun: what is it that is not stable then?
[10:32] <Overand> he means the -server 'branch' of 5.10 is not stable
[10:32] <Overand> he/she
[10:32] <Overand> apologies
[10:32] <Eidan> hi all
[10:33] <crimsun> Overand: it's the same reason you don't see Dapper download links listed right up there.
[10:33] <salifoudene> bonjour  tous
[10:33] <Eidan> someone can help me installing xvidcap?
[10:33] <Eidan> or another software to make a videocapture
[10:33] <Overand> crimsun: I guess I'm somewhat weirded out by the somewhat 'closed' approach the site has.  not closed, just limited, geared towards beginners/new users, apparently
[10:33] <Agent_bob> yeah Overand i just got here so i mis read your question         /me backs away slowly.......
[10:33] <Overand> Agent_bob: yeah
[10:33] <salifoudene> hello
[10:34] <Overand> i'm just ranting semi-coherently about the lack of links to newer pre-releases, old releases and the -server branch
[10:34] <crimsun> Overand: it's definitely not clear in many places, but it certainly attempts to minimise misinformation for the most current stable release.
[10:34] <salifoudene> good morning
[10:35] <salifoudene> bonjour
[10:35] <Overand> crimsun: It seems like it's preventing a few users from accidentally landing on the unstable branches while simultaneously preventing a LOT of potential testers from getting to the development versions
[10:35] <Eidan> someone can help me installing xvidcap?
[10:35] <Overand> Basically, I just don't like the site's approach
[10:35] <toogreen> hello there, can anyone help me get my Intel graphics 950 working on my laptop?
[10:35] <Overand> Maybe I'll picket.  =] 
[10:35] <redblade> Perhaps, someone.
[10:35] <Fable> i cant use the net.. in ubuntu even with static ??? it works fine in windows
[10:35] <redblade> But not I
[10:35] <crimsun> Overand: the overwhelming majority of users should not be aware there IS a development branch.
[10:36] <crimsun> "oh my, which do I download? ..."
[10:36] <rikai>  <ryuoko> just a quick question... does anyone know if gaim 2.0 will have an unblock button (at least for MSN). Thanks
[10:36] <rikai>  * bushk has quit ("Leaving")
[10:36] <rikai>  * ryuoko has quit ("Leaving")
[10:36] <rikai> ack
[10:36] <rikai> sorry for that, *stabs the clipboard*
[10:36] <Overand> crimsun: what percentage of Linux users, or even Ubuntu users, do you think are as 'simple' as you seem to be implying?
[10:36] <Agent_bob> the overwhelming majority of ubuntu users shouldn't be aware that there are computers.........    ;/
[10:37] <Overand> it's pretty easy to design a site to point users to the latest stable release and still provide a path for other users to the *other* releases
[10:37] <Overand> with pretty clear warnings.
[10:37] <Overand> but hey
[10:37] <crimsun> Overand: I don't imply they're simple; I state that putting a link to a development release on the main download page is Just Not Good Practice At All.
[10:37] <Overand> 'do not insert into eye' will probably be printed on pencils soon
[10:37] <Overand> crimsun: how about a link to it *anywhere*
[10:37] <rikai> The overwhelming majority of ubuntu users shouldn't be aware fo technological advancments such as electricity and indoor toilets.
[10:38] <Overand> gahah
[10:38] <Overand> wow
[10:38] <Overand> love thine userbase,eh?
[10:38] <rikai> Overand, hm? i'm jsut making jokes. ;)
[10:38] <Overand> Agent_bob: that's a classic
[10:38] <Overand> I also think the legalization of most drugs would help with that too.
[10:38] <Agent_bob> lol
[10:38] <Overand> The responsible users will cause few problems, and the idiots will get themselves killed.
[10:38] <Agent_bob> yeah probably
[10:38] <crimsun> Overand: people who really like testing know where to look, because there's a Get Involved link in the default Web browser home page
[10:39] <vladuz976> does anybody know how turions compare to celerons on laptops?
[10:39] <Overand> crimsun: yeah, well I wouldn't know that what with the fact that I don't use X, now would I?
[10:39] <Overand> hm
[10:39] <Overand> I'm not trying to troll or argue needlessly here
[10:39] <Overand> We should probably just drop it.
[10:40] <crimsun> take your issues up with the doc team.
[10:40] <Fable> well turions r amd and celerons r intel... so intel = pretty shit and amd = good but for linux amd support is limited
[10:40] <Fable> i say get pm
[10:40] <Fable> pentium M
[10:41] <rikai> vladuz976, The Turion is a far superior chip.
[10:41] <Overand> Fable: linux amd support is limited?
[10:41] <Overand> that's news to me.
[10:41] <tawker> ok, I've got my laptop im trying to install on
[10:41] <kemik> to me aswell
[10:41] <kemik> what do you mean with that ?
[10:41] <tawker> nvm, it just went on
[10:41] <k31th> Morning all
[10:41] <tawker> does anyone know about connecting using WPA
[10:41] <Fable> *amd
[10:41] <Agent_bob> i thought that every one knew that linux only supports intel
[10:42] <rob> !wireless
[10:42] <dli_> k31th, it's not morning for all :(
[10:42] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:42] <Fable> support is limited by wat i have found out
[10:42] <Overand> Also, your credibility is damaged somewhat by your spelling.
[10:42] <Fable> AMD
[10:42] <Overand> Fable: Support for what AMD *what*
[10:42] <Overand> the CPU instruction set?
[10:42] <vladuz976> rikai: isn't turion comparable to the intel celeron series?
[10:42] <Overand> 99.995% the same as intel.
[10:42] <Fable> is limited
[10:42] <Fable> compared to intel
[10:42] <Overand> Fable: back it up.
[10:42] <hyperstream_> hmm is there anyway to change xchat-gnome to the orginial xchat layout look
[10:42] <kemik> Fable: you obviously have no idea what you're talking about
[10:42] <Overand> Are you talking about chipset support?
[10:42] <Overand> Fable: I'm running multiple AMD machines
[10:42] <Fable> wat if i dont wat u gunna do about it
[10:43] <Overand> got an X2 right now running 5.10 with both cores going, using onboard sound and networking
[10:43] <ali> hey guys, do you know any podcasting software that uses bittorrent to download the files?
[10:43] <Overand> That's an AMD system, and it *screams*
[10:43] <kemik> Fable: oh, grow up
[10:43] <crimsun> Fable: please don't spread FUD, and continue this particular thread elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:43] <rikai> vladuz976, Celeron M it doesnt regulate it's clock speed or voltage on the fly, making it run hot, also making the baterly life much shorter.
[10:43] <Fable> ahahh i think not
[10:43] <Overand> rikai: really?
[10:43] <Overand> are the current celerons still p4-based?
[10:43] <Overand> or do they have P-M based celerons?
[10:43] <rikai> vladuz976, Also, the turion has a more efficent processor architecture (faster processing), and a faster bus (faster data transfer).
[10:43] <Fable> P-M based
[10:44] <Fable> most celerons r
[10:44] <Fable> nowadays
[10:44] <rikai> Overand, according to a crossrefrence of a few google searches, yes.
[10:44] <vladuz976> rikai: do you have one?
[10:44] <Overand> Fable: I don't trust anything you say, since you've flat-out lied.  rikai, however, I will listen to.
[10:44] <rikai> vladuz976, nope.
[10:44] <dli_> rikai, turion has a shorter battery time also
[10:44] <Overand> I have to say, when it comes to laptops, I *was* very happy with my Pentium-M chip.
[10:44] <Fable> i didnt lie... it is my own personnel opinion and i did state that
[10:45] <Overand> personally, i try to avoid the 'budget' chips
[10:45] <kemik> Fable: you stated it as a fact, which it's not
[10:45] <Fable> i didnt
[10:45] <Overand> 04:41 < Fable> support is limited by wat i have found out
[10:45] <Fable> i said  my opiion
[10:45] <rikai> dli_, from what i've read, they both have decent battery time, but the Turion has much better relatively.
[10:45] <Fable> yeh
[10:45] <crimsun> ok, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:45] <vladuz976> rikai: i am thinking about this one http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/product_spec.asp?model=MS-1013
[10:45] <Fable> my opinion
[10:45] <Overand> Fable: nowhere did you say that.
[10:45] <Overand> bleh
[10:45] <rikai> yeah, crimsun is right. :/
[10:45] <Fable> it is obvious
[10:45] <vladuz976> rikai: you think the sempron would be a better idea then?
[10:45] <Fable> lol
[10:45] <kemik> Overand: he did say that after we pressed him on it ;)
[10:45] <Fable> semprons r just athlons
[10:45] <Overand> he's either a troll or an idiot, either way I've got no interest in him.
[10:46] <dli_> rikai, AMD didn't even show battery time in their "selective" benchmarks
[10:46] <Overand> It's really too bad- AMD power consumption *in general* is lower than intel *in general*
[10:46] <Overand> re: desktop chips.
[10:46] <StudyUrNme> "selective" benchmarks by manufacturers? oh my
[10:46] <Overand> StudyUrNme: GASP!
[10:46] <kemik> intel is way ahead on the laptops tho
[10:46] <rikai> dli_, i'm not going by AMD benchmarks, i'm going by user experinces.
[10:47] <Overand> kemik: last i read up on it ~10 months ago, that was the state of things
[10:47] <concept10> i forgot, what is the control panel for kde called?
[10:47] <Thedonn> Im curentlt using Firestarter,but Im in work and only have SSH access, Is there away I can allow firestarter to allow a port temporarily or even if I could stop the firewall, thanks
[10:47] <Overand> but- since then, my intel laptop was stolen
[10:47] <Fable> does neone else have a gig lan onboard a MSI board and have problems with internet
[10:47] <crimsun> concept10: K -> KDE System Settings
[10:47] <Agent_bob> concept10 kicker
[10:47] <rikai> vladuz976, hm, perhaps this thraed will be of help: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=33747
[10:47] <StudyUrNme> Fable, what processor? :-p
[10:47] <Overand> so i've kind of gotten soured on that.  i replaced it with an APple Cinema 30" display.  f%&kers aren't going to be able to pick that up so easily.
[10:47] <Fable> P-4
[10:48] <Overand> oh dear
[10:48] <Agent_bob> no sorry not kicker that's the panel    kcontrol
[10:48] <Overand> my box just flipped out.
[10:48] <Overand> hm.
[10:48] <Langly> JjjJJjJJjjJjJJjJjjjJJjJjJjj
[10:48] <rikai> Fable, yes, semprons are jsut athlons... except for you know... that whole... 64 bit thing...
[10:48] <Agent_bob> concept10 k control
[10:48] <rikai> Overand, oh? what happened?
[10:48] <scav> in ubuntu and other os'es
[10:48] <concept10> crimsun, i dont use kde, just konq
[10:48] <scav> are the drivers built in the kernel?
[10:48] <Thedonn> How can I disable firewall at the command line?
[10:48] <Fable> Overand: imagine the face of the non comp literate person wen they turnd on ur laptop that was stolen to find no windows installed
[10:48] <Fable> y:P
[10:48] <Fable> :P
[10:48] <Overand> rikai: it's a debian box,not an ubuntu
[10:49] <concept10> ahh, kcontrol - thats what im looking for thanks guys
[10:49] <Thedonn> Firewall using Firestarter interface
[10:49] <rikai> Overand, lol, still, what happened?
[10:49] <Overand> and irssi dropped fro like 3 servers and is complaining that it can't resolve domains
[10:49] <Overand>  04:49:07 up 149 days, 20:20, 13 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[10:49] <rikai> i always find flipping out computers interesting. ;)
[10:49] <Overand> like hell i'm rebooting
[10:49] <rikai> ouch.
[10:49] <Fable> a Sempron = Athlon XP aint it?
[10:49] <rikai> Fable, no.
[10:49] <Overand> *one* of the reconnects just worked
[10:49] <rikai> Fable, otherwise they'd call it an athlon xp, not a sempron. ;)
[10:49] <Fable> oh
[10:49] <rikai> Overand, dns issues maybe?
[10:50] <Fable> my mate has one it is Athlon XP but boxed as sempron
[10:50] <Overand> looks like a DNS server went down
[10:50] <Overand> maaybe
[10:50] <Overand> interesting
[10:50] <Overand> oh man that sucks
[10:50] <Overand> both DNS servers either went down or got smart
[10:50] <Fable`AWAY> im away
[10:50] <Fable`AWAY> :P
[10:51] <Overand> I've been using my old ISP's DNS servers
[10:51] <Thedonn> How can I disable firewall at the command line?
[10:51] <Overand> as has everyone else in new england,haaha
[10:51] <Overand> and now they're not responding to ping.
[10:51] <rikai> Fable`AWAY, strange, a sempron is basically the budget version of the Athlon 64.
[10:51] <Overand> Either they got smart and aren't allowing traffic from not-their-clients, or they're... DOWN!
[10:51] <rikai> Overand, heh, i'm in extreme northeast new england. ;)
[10:51] <Agent_bob> Thedonn sudo iptables -F
[10:51] <Overand> THey date from when SNET was a company, they got bought out by SBC, then SBC went to SBC/Yahoo for DSL
[10:52] <Overand> oh
[10:52] <Overand> i was just in that area
[10:52] <Overand> for that concert
[10:52] <kemik> Thedonn: but flushing all the fw-rules may be a bad idea
[10:52] <Overand> the singer was SICK
[10:52] <Overand> (heh)
[10:52] <ali> hey guys, do you know any podcasting software that uses bittorrent to download the files?
[10:52] <Overand> ali: yeah, azureus.  =] 
[10:53] <Overand> it supports reading RSS
[10:53] <vladuz976> rikai: seems as if a turion will do. It won't be the greatest but as long as i can get ubuntu running on it i am happy
[10:53] <Overand> several other clients do it,but they do a poor job of it
[10:53] <ali> Overand: ok :) which other clients do it?
[10:53] <Overand> ali: in the *nix world i have no idea
[10:54] <Overand> damnit
[10:54] <ali> Overand: i just want it to like open up gnome bit torrent when it gets a new episode
[10:54] <rikai> vladuz976, won't be the greatest? whats wrong with it? :P
[10:54] <Overand> if i edit my resolv.conf, what do i have to do to get apps to 'use' it?
[10:54] <Overand> rikai: i meant that i was in portland to see NIN, but trent had to rescehdule due to illness
[10:54] <rikai> Overand, oh, nice.
[10:55] <jennyoreilly> what's a nice bittorrent clientfor the terminal?
[10:55] <rikai> Overand, i'm way up in bangor. :P
[10:55] <vladuz976> rikai: they say it's not that fast, especially when you compile a lot from source a pentium M would be better
[10:55] <Overand> rikai: don't know it
[10:55] <Overand> I hiked ~200 miles of the AT though
[10:55] <Overand> wait
[10:55] <matt_> Hi all has anyone in here installed cameramonitor?
[10:55] <theine> jennyoreilly: bittornado
[10:55] <jennyoreilly> ta
[10:55] <rikai> vladuz976, i'd take longer battery life and lower heat output over a bit of speed any day. ;)
[10:55] <matt_> i have intalled the ubuntu deb package and it has created an icon
[10:55] <rikai> jennyoreilly, ctorrrent or rtorrent
[10:55] <Overand> rikai: check -ot
[10:56] <vladuz976> rikai: very true
[10:56] <jennyoreilly> thanks
[10:56] <rikai> jennyoreilly, if you're looking for ncurses
[10:56] <matt_> i have tried running it from the shell and it comes back with: Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:56] <matt_>   File "/usr/local/bin/cameramonitor", line 6, in ?
[10:56] <matt_>     import gtk
[10:56] <matt_> ImportError: No module named gtk
[10:56] <jennyoreilly> that would be nice
[10:56] <Firefox> plz HELP!
[10:56] <theine> rikai: bittornado has ncurses too
[10:56] <Firefox> somebody help
[10:56] <jennyoreilly> ok
[10:56] <Firefox> i install xmms from binaries
[10:56] <jennyoreilly> ctorrent/rtorrent - difference?
[10:57] <rikai> theine, aye, but it's also single-torrent. ;)
[10:57] <Firefox> GLIB >= 1.2 not installed
[10:57] <matt_> is there a package i can use with apt-get intall for gtk?
[10:57] <rikai> jennyoreilly, ask google. ;)
[10:57] <theine> rikai: that is of course true
[10:57] <crimsun> Firefox: install libgtk1.2-dev or libgtk2.0-dev
[10:57] <crimsun> Firefox: what are you attempting?
[10:58] <rikai> jennyoreilly, i havent used them in forever, so i dont know what the differences are now.
[10:58] <theine> rikai: although that doesn't really seem to be a limitation to me as nothing stops me from opening several terminals/tabs
[10:58] <Agent_bob> crimsun <Firefox> i install xmms from binaries
[10:58] <jennyoreilly> thanks rikai, just testing bitchx. I'll go links and google shall I...
[10:58] <matt_> I thought i had already installed some gtk stuff but obviously not
[10:58] <crimsun> Firefox: does xmms in the repository not suffice?
[10:58] <Firefox> install xmms not from packet
[10:59] <Agent_bob> i'm not sure but i think he means source rather than binarry also
[10:59] <crimsun> (figured as much)
[10:59] <Firefox>  libgtk1.2-dev or libgtk2.0-dev in Ubuntu or need download?
[11:00] <crimsun> Firefox: sudo apt-get build-dep xmms
[11:00] <Agent_bob> Firefox you can search with "apt-cache search <name> "
[11:00] <dine> hi
[11:00] <defrysk> Firefox, what crimsun  said
[11:00] <rikai> theine, i'd rather have one terminal per program, frees up the other ones fo rother programs. ;)
[11:01] <rikai> theine, most people looking for terminal based programs arent using x, and therefore are limited to the ctrl+alt+fkey terminals. ;)
[11:01] <Firefox> mb u know how install Access Runner Acorp Srinter@ADSL for Ubuntu??
[11:01] <theine> rikai: i can see that, but there are these things called tabs
[11:01] <hacker> dine
[11:01] <theine> rikai: right, that I haven't thought of
[11:01] <theine> rikai: ok, but there's screen
[11:02] <hacker> malak
[11:02] <rikai> sure...
[11:02] <dine> so be
[11:02] <Agent_bob> rikai those ctrl+alt+fkey terminals  are called   'consoles'  :)
[11:02] <theine> rikai: that's what i usually use when downloading on a remote server
[11:02] <dine> so sakas
[11:02] <rikai> Agent_bob, i know, i'm just sick... and tired. :E
[11:03] <ateves> hi there. how can i autostart a script that contains commands which require root access?
[11:03] <rikai> theine, *shrug* either way, it can't hurt to have several options ready for a user so they can choose what best fits their prefrence. :D
[11:03] <matt_> why would i get   File "/usr/local/bin/cameramonitor", line 6, in ?
[11:03] <matt_>     import gtk
[11:03] <matt_> ImportError: No module named gtk
[11:03] <matt_> i deffinetly have the gtk installed
[11:03] <bob-jenkins> hi all
[11:03] <Agent_bob> if you are talking about using screen or other consoles   consider   "openvt"
[11:03] <theine> rikai: i subscribe to that...
[11:03] <Agent_bob> or 'open'
[11:03] <rikai> matt_, hm, it python/perl?
[11:03] <Agent_bob> both do the same.
[11:03] <hacker> hao are you people
[11:03] <chuckyp> Agent_bob, screen gives me headaches
[11:04] <rikai> matt_, might not have the correct package installed.
[11:04] <dine> hej man how are you
[11:04] <GoRiLLaZ> deka si be dine
[11:04] <bob-jenkins> if i have a ext3 partition, and space preceeding it, can i 'expand' the partition to consume that space ?
[11:04] <dine> so sakas
[11:04] <matt_> rikai, its for cameramonitor, i installed the .deb package but when i try to run it i get the error pasted above
[11:04] <hacker> malak aco
[11:04] <Agent_bob> yeah i don't like screen.    i have 23 login tty's  and can use openvt if needed.
[11:04] <GoRiLLaZ> e gomno be
[11:04] <bob-jenkins> gparted allows that for fat32 partitions, but not ext3
[11:04] <ali> what's openvt?
[11:04] <Javaz81> I've a boot problem on my laptop.Is there someone could help me? Please
[11:04] <dine> deka si be govedo
[11:05] <Agent_bob> ali  man openvt
[11:05] <GoRiLLaZ> deka si be deni
[11:05] <hacker> EEE ZACIC
[11:05] <matt_> i have tried re installing libgtk2.0 stuff no difference still shows that error
[11:05] <hacker> ACE MALAKK
[11:05] <ali> Agent_bob: very helpful man...
[11:05] <bob-jenkins> no one knows ? :(
[11:05] <ali> Agent_bob: i'm not at my linux box
[11:06] <GoRiLLaZ> deka is be dine m,alak
[11:06] <sHaDe> giorno all
[11:06] <matt_> any ideas rikai ???
[11:06] <Agent_bob> ali    i would think the name would give it away even if you didn't follow the conversation      open vt      as in  Virtual Terminal    aka   tty
[11:06] <hacker> MALACITE
[11:07] <toogreen> hello there, can anyone help me get my Intel graphics 950 video working on my laptop?
[11:07] <rikai> matt_, yeah, it's a python package, might want to ask about the gtk dependency in #python or something
[11:07] <dine> hahahahahah
[11:07] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: whats the problem ?
[11:07] <ali> Agent_bob: forget about it.
[11:07] <rikai> matt_, or ask aobut your problem there in general even.
[11:07] <hacker> YES I M PUSSY
[11:07] <bob-jenkins> damn, no one knows about this ext3 problem ? :S
[11:07] <hacker> MOTHER FUCHER
[11:07] <matt_> rikai, okay thanks, can i ask how you found that out??
[11:07] <Agent_bob> ali i already did.
[11:07] <bob-jenkins> hacker: cant you just get out ?
[11:07] <matt_> rikai how did you find out it was a python package?
[11:07] <hacker> NOOO
[11:07] <dine> i can help you toorgreen
[11:07] <hacker> EHY
[11:07] <dine> sdf
[11:07] <dine> sd
[11:07] <dine> fsdf
[11:07] <dine> sd
[11:07] <dine> fs
[11:07] <dine> dfs
[11:07] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, breezy couldnt seem to autodetect my card nor the drivers, and now it's the same with dapper
[11:08] <rikai> matt_, i googled it and ended up at this page: http://infinito.f2o.org/cameramonitor/
[11:08] <hacker> WHY I GET OUT
[11:08] <hacker> I LIKE TO HACK THE UNIVERS
[11:08] <hacker> HAHAHHAA
[11:08] <rikai> matt_, they mention python quite a bit, so i assume thats what it is.
[11:08] <bimberi> !ops
[11:08] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[11:08] <hacker> I BANET
[11:08] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, so I have no idea how to install drivers for it...
[11:08] <bob-jenkins> hacker: go hack 127.0.0.1
[11:08] <concept10> heh
[11:08] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: hmm.. wait a mo' please
[11:08] <rikai> matt_, looks like you might need pygtk
[11:08] <matt_> rikai, thank you will try in python.... getting to grips with the basics slowly.. very slowley
[11:08] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, now I'm running it with the "vesa" drivers but the resolution sucks!
[11:09] <concept10> bob-jenkins, I guess you read that story too?
[11:09] <bimberi> ompaul: thanks
[11:09] <bob-jenkins> concept10: yes :D
[11:09] <ompaul> bimberi, np
[11:09] <concept10> bob-jenkins, I wish I could find it because it cracked me up
[11:09] <bob-jenkins> concept10: the story ? or the hacker ? ;)
[11:10] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: i think the proper modules are agpgart and intel-agp
[11:11] <concept10> bob-jenkins, the story about the guy making threats to hack everyone on irc, he asked someone there ip, they gave him 127.0.0.1 and he erases the hardrive and you can see him logged off of irc
[11:11] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, ok cool so what do I do with that? I had the modules in the xorg.conf file?
[11:11] <concept10> someone posted a irc log of it a while back
[11:12] <rikai> matt_, see if installing python-gtk2 fixes it.
[11:12] <matt_> rikai, already installed and newest version
[11:13] <lesshaste>  slightly OT but what is the cheapest way to get a pc with 64MB of RAM?
[11:13] <matt_> rikai, still coming up no module named gtk found, would it need configuring or somethign?
[11:13] <lesshaste> s/MB/GB :)
[11:13] <rikai> matt_, it shouldnt... hm...
[11:13] <yahya> hi I need a php-dbase module. but can't find wiht apt-cache search.. how do I go about installing it in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Guardian> hello ppl
[11:13] <Guardian> ?dapper
[11:14] <Guardian> ? dapper
[11:14] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, I meant to say: do I add the modules in the "modules" section of xorg.conf ... or else what's the procedure?
[11:14] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: no. it should auto detect
[11:14] <bob-jenkins> this is very strange
[11:14] <Agent_bob> i kinda like watching them   /exec -o sudo `echo "tq -lb" | tr 'lqtb' 'fmrR' `      in their irc client.
[11:14] <rikai> matt_, might need python-glade2 as well
[11:14] <bob-jenkins> bob-jenkins: try doing modprobe the above modules and startx again
[11:15] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, It's a very new chip I think... I've got a core duo cpu etc
[11:15] <matt_> rikai, already newest version installed
[11:15] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: hehe, then make it a point to install the smp kernel
[11:16] <rikai> matt_, form what i've read, th eonly thongs needed for pygtk in ubuntu are python, python-gtk2 and maybe python-glade2
[11:16] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, I'm sorry but what do you mean by that? install the smp kernel?
[11:16] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: wait. first do apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-all
[11:16] <toogreen> ok
[11:17] <bob-jenkins> that must get the right driver atleast
[11:17] <bob-jenkins> then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <matt_> rikai, well maybe i will just look for a different bit of camera software, i just thought it sounded useful, basically need something to grab imaged from my webcam for a website and possibly in the future will look for something for motion detection
[11:17] <ompaul> !seen seveas
[11:17] <ubotu> seveas <n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 9h 28m 36s ago, saying: ''night all'.
[11:17] <toogreen> before i do that, is there an easy way to disable GDM? it's really annoying when I restart X and it restarts GDM.. i just want X to die and try startx again
[11:17] <matt_> rikai, for now i better get my self off to work, thanks again for your help
[11:17] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:17] <rikai> matt_, so i'd really reccomend asking in #python if you already have those installed.
[11:17] <rikai> matt_, k.
[11:18] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[11:18] <rikai> this package also requires: gconf2 , python-gnome2, python-gnome2-extras
[11:19] <rikai> matt_, just installed it, how would i test it?
[11:19] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: works ?
[11:19] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, sorry I got dc as I tried to disable GDM without thinking it would kill my GNOME session as well... lol
[11:19] <toogreen> :P
[11:20] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: use irssi.
[11:20] <matt_> rikai, i think you just type cameramonitor at command prompt
[11:20] <bob-jenkins> from a terminal -- ctrl-alt-f1
[11:20] <matt_> rikai, should just load something in your system tray and indicate if your webcam is in use
[11:20] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, ok well can u tell me that command again to re-install Xorg with all drivers?
[11:20] <rikai> matt_, well, i did, nothing popped up, but i'm also not getting an error either.
[11:20] <matt_> i just checked i have all the packaged you mentioned above still not working
[11:20] <fn_> exit
[11:20] <bob-jenkins> 15:43 < bob-jenkins> toogreen: wait. first do apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-all
[11:20] <bob-jenkins> 15:43 < toogreen> ok
[11:20] <bob-jenkins> 15:43 < bob-jenkins> that must get the right driver atleast
[11:21] <bob-jenkins> 15:43 < bob-jenkins> then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <toogreen> bob-jenkins, it tells me I got already the latest version
[11:21] <kemfi> excuse me, i have a slight problem. I cant get accelerated video to work in ubuntu
[11:22] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: ok. then do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:22] <matt_> rikai, like i said can't afford any more time on it now, got to get my ass to work.... if you do manage to get it working and its worth using would be greatful if you would leave me a message
[11:22] <toogreen> ok hold on
[11:22] <toogreen> brb
[11:22] <rikai> matt_, oki.
[11:22] <rikai> matt_, i'll also keep an eye out on alternatives to it for ya.
[11:22] <kemfi> strangely enough i have accelerated 3d..
[11:22] <rikai> matt_, later, sir. o/
[11:22] <matt_> rikai, might be a crap piece off software but wont know until i get it running :) thanks again
[11:23] <kemfi> any ideas?
[11:23] <rikai> matt_, might also be worth sending the people an email.
[11:23] <rikai> kemfi, accelerated video?
[11:24] <kemfi> rikai: Video post rocessing, so that videos does get the same visual quality as in other os:es
[11:24] <kemfi> smoother
[11:25] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: ?
[11:25] <toogreen> bob-jenkins ok I got bitchx now :P Well i tried to reconfigure xorg again but it still doesnt autodetect it :(
[11:25] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: you are on dapper ?
[11:25] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: well, i think, you must use "xorgconfig" then, as root
[11:25] <toogreen> bob-jenkins yes... and it was the same on breezer
[11:26] <rikai> kemfi, using xv?
[11:26] <toogreen> bob-jenkins hmm do I need to go to some directory to get that xorgconfig program? seems i dont have it now
[11:27] <Thedonn> I need to disable my firewall, not flush it, but allow everything connect, how can I do this?
[11:27] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: eh ? all systems have it.
[11:27] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: do "sudo -i ; xorgconfig"
[11:28] <bob-jenkins> that must work !!
[11:28] <toogreen> bob-jenkins command not found!! :\
[11:28] <henna> hi
[11:28] <psyklops00> ls
[11:28] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: wait a sec again, please :D
[11:29] <henna> how do I get my ubuntu install to load external hard drives (usb) automatically?, (just like the livecd does)
[11:29] <kemfi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <toogreen> bob-jenkins no problem... thanks for helping anyway
[11:29] <kemfi> toogreen
[11:29] <toogreen> kemfi I tried that like 1 million times already ;)
[11:29] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: ok. wait .. firefox is slow to load on piii 550mhz :(
[11:29] <bob-jenkins> henna: it must do that automatically.
[11:29] <henna> bob-jenkins: mm
[11:30] <henna> can't find the drive tho
[11:30] <henna> or maybe it has to be in /etc/fstab as well?)
[11:30] <toogreen> bob-jenkins well don't get that ACER dual core laptop just yet.. its unsupported under linux >:(
[11:31] <toogreen> :(
[11:31] <kemfi> toogreen if youre going dualcore take an amd, they have very similar arch to "real" smp opterons so the support should not be an issue
[11:32] <toogreen> kemfi well I'm afraid it's too late now as I bought this machine already... :(
[11:32] <kemik> Thedonn: shutdown firestarter.. but there's no firewall running in ubuntu unless you've set it up yourself
[11:32] <Ekumba> hello there
[11:34] <toogreen> kemfi: My new laptop is the ACER TravelMate 4200... It has real issues so far under linux... My dapper doesn't see my network card, my built-in wireless, and my video card... I guess they are all part of the chipset. Right now i'm using a pcmcia card to get online
[11:35] <Thedonn> kemik, How do I shutdown firestarter via the command line?
[11:35] <toogreen> I can run X if I use the VESA driver but it really sucks, i can't even have the real resolution (1280x800)
[11:35] <kemik> Thedonn: not sure, but perhaps /etc/init.d/firestarter stop
[11:35] <kemik> i dont use firestarter myself
[11:35] <toogreen> Right now it runs at 1024x768 and its all blurry and distorted :(
[11:36] <Ekumba> i need help:i'm a linux newwbie.my directory ar /usr/local/bin has chanchec.die bin directory has become a " 		escape pipe" sign and i can't access ist
[11:36] <ubuntu> got disconn
[11:36] <ubuntu> toogreen: can you repost ? bob here :S
[11:36] <sisreg06> \j mossro
[11:36] <toogreen> ubuntu u wat me to repost what part exactly?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> Thedonn: You can also do 'ps aux | grep firestarter', find the PID, and 'kill PID', or maybe even 'killall firestarter' if the init stop doesn't work.
[11:36] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: after "dont get acer laptop" :D
[11:37] <Langly> dont get acer anything
[11:37] <toogreen> bob-jenkins well u told me to use a console IRC so now I can't paste damniT!! :P  I was just saying  I had a TravelMate 4200
[11:37] <Langly> especialy if they ever make condoms
[11:38] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[11:38] <toogreen> bob-jenkins and that ubuntu (dapper+breezy) don't even see the network card, the built-in wireless, nor the video card
[11:38] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: god .. use a better or well supported distro :D like pclos
[11:38] <toogreen> bob-jenkins I guess it's the whole chipset the problem
[11:39] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: i900 right ?
[11:39] <LePoulpe303> vino is almost unusable for me because of refresh problems  ; i didn't find anything on www to fix that ; anyone has an idea please ?
[11:39] <toogreen> bob-jenkins :P hey I love ubuntu... I want my ubuntu back!
[11:39] <bob-jenkins> hehe
[11:39] <toogreen> bob-jenkins no actually it's i950
[11:39] <bob-jenkins> oh, ok
[11:39] <toogreen> bob-jenkins which I guess is very new (so unsupported? :|)
[11:40] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: are you sure there such a intel chipset at all !? googling turns up nothing :(
[11:40] <Ekumba> hilfe
[11:40] <toogreen> bob-jenkins I downloaded some drivers but they won't install.. it complains about agpgart and kernel modules not being able to compile
[11:40] <Ekumba> kann mir niemand helfen?
[11:41] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: link me to the drivers, plz
[11:41] <toogreen> bob-jenkins yes if you look up on Intel.com you will find it... but when u want drivers it refers to older chips... i915 i think
[11:41] <toogreen> ok holdon
[11:42] <Nexinarus> !dvd
[11:42] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:42] <bob-jenkins> eh, why ?! use the script thats on all systems
[11:43] <bob-jenkins> ubuntu@ubuntu:/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples$ pwd
[11:43] <bob-jenkins> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples
[11:43] <bob-jenkins> there is a script there
[11:43] <bob-jenkins> install-css.sh
[11:43] <bob-jenkins> why not use that ?!
[11:43] <Ekumba> i need help:i'm a linux newwbie.my directory ar /usr/local/bin has chanchec.die bin directory has become a " 		escape pipe" sign and i can't access ist
[11:44] <tucoz> Hello. I am trying to find that dapper-install page. Where I can describe how my install went.
[11:44] <toogreen> bob-jenkins do you want me to send u the drivers i got?
[11:44] <liable> indeed
[11:44] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: no .. just link me. :)
[11:45] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: because dcc wont work on my connection .. some port blocking :(
[11:45] <Firefox> who can help me?
[11:45] <toogreen> bob-jenkins ok hold on im just having trouble starting gnome :| there's a bug about a panel already running or something
[11:45] <daem0n> how can i go about adding a new user to a system and also giving them sudo access?
[11:45] <tucoz> Firefox, with what?
[11:45] <Firefox> may me in private?
[11:45] <bob-jenkins> toogreen: oh .. killall -9 gnome-panel
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> !ask
[11:45] <illllio> I need some help, ive installed an openVPN server and on the serverside i have: "ifconfig 192.168.43.191 192.168.0.190" and on the client: "ifconfig 192.168.43.190 192.168.43.191", i connect and i cant still ping client->server or server->client - whats wrong?
[11:46] <tucoz> Firefox, I think the general aproach to getting help is to ask your question here.
[11:46] <Firefox> cant install xmms
[11:46] <Firefox> from source
[11:46] <illllio> apt-get install xmms <3
[11:46] <bob-jenkins> why do you want to install from source, Firefox ?
[11:47] <Firefox> ai download source
[11:47] <daem0n> how can i go about adding a new user to a system and also giving them su access (via command line only)?
[11:47] <Firefox> & if ai dl i need install
[11:47] <illllio> why dont use precompiled package?
[11:47] <Firefox> just situation
[11:47] <tucoz> if you want to install from source, you need the build-essentials package
[11:47] <shehzad> hi alls
[11:48] <Firefox> i insyalled
[11:48] <Firefox> was installed
[11:48] <Firefox> esse...
[11:48] <tucoz> so, what happens?
[11:48] <Firefox> The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[11:48] <Firefox> *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[11:48] <Firefox> *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
[11:48] <Firefox> *** full path to glib-config.
[11:48] <Firefox> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[11:48] <bob-jenkins> Firefox: if u want to compile from source d othis
[11:48] <illllio> what do you think then?
[11:48] <illllio> install libglib
[11:48] <illllio> apt-cache search libglib
[11:48] <crimsun> Firefox: I gave you the solution about an hour ago
[11:48] <crimsun> Firefox: sudo apt-get build-dep xmms
[11:48] <bob-jenkins> Firefox: "apt-get build-dep xmms; apt-get source xmms; cd DIR/ ; debian/rules binary"
[11:48] <bob-jenkins> ok ?
[11:48] <shehzad> is there any one how can tell me how i can use yahoo and msn at ubunt linux
[11:48] <bob-jenkins> DIR is the dir created by the command, Firefox
[11:49] <shehzad> who***
[11:49] <Firefox> build dep not work
[11:49] <crimsun> Firefox: you need the main repository enabled.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Use Gaim.
[11:49] <tucoz> shedi, gaim maybe?
[11:49] <illllio> crimsun: What does "build-dep" means anyway?
[11:49] <crimsun> illllio: build dependency
[11:49] <Firefox> how enable
[11:49] <Firefox> repository
[11:49] <illllio> oh.
[11:49] <shehzad> i am new at linux tonyy
[11:49] <crimsun> !tell Firefox about repos
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: You running Gnome?  (Default install)
[11:49] <daem0n> how can i go about adding a new user to a system and also giving them su access (via command line only)?
[11:49] <bob-jenkins> Firefox: do you have any deb-src lines ?
[11:49] <illllio> I need some help, ive installed an openVPN server and on the serverside i have: "ifconfig 192.168.43.191 192.168.0.190" and on the client: "ifconfig 192.168.43.190 192.168.43.191", i connect and i cant still ping client->server or server->client - whats wrong?
[11:50] <shehzad> i think so
[11:50] <Firefox> what the deb src lines?
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Applications > Internet > Gaim Instant Messenger
[11:50] <illllio> Firefox: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep apt-src
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: In that, just add accounts, and put in your information for both of them.
[11:50] <crimsun> illllio: (deb-src)
[11:50] <tucoz> shehzad: is it a brownish background on your desktop? then you are running gnome.
[11:50] <illllio> oh :D
[11:50] <shehzad> ok now what i have to do
[11:50] <illllio> my bad
[11:51] <Tom_Kidd> Ubuntu gets the wrong free space off my Mp3 player, it says around 40mb free when theres around 500mb free.. Anyone else get this?
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: The first time it runs I think like three windows open at once, look for the Accounts one, click Add.
[11:51] <shehzad> there is somthing screen name
[11:51] <bob-jenkins> use this, Firefox http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:51] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: wow, did it work ?
[11:51] <kemik> Tom_Kidd:  make sure theres not a .Thrash on the mp3disk
[11:51] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, here's a link : http://support.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/index.htm
[11:52] <shehzad> should i have to give my user name and password
[11:52] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, no, my gnome was freaking so I apt-get a fluxbox :P
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Select the protocol (Yahoo/MSN), and put in your account info.
[11:52] <bob-jenkins> ok, toogreen1 .. lol :D
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Not your Ubuntu ones, but Yahoo&MSN yeah.
[11:52] <jubei> guys, any ideas as to why my Matrox pci graphics card can't raise resolutions?
[11:52] <Tom_Kidd> No, there's not
[11:52] <daem0n> how can i go about adding a new user to a system and also giving them su access (via command line only)?
[11:53] <bob-jenkins> wow, toogreen1 .. you have a really featured laptop !! how much did you buy it for ?
[11:53] <glick> hey i changed the resolution on my screen, and then didnt accept, and when it reverted back the panel was in the middle of the screen
[11:53] <glick> how do i change it back
[11:53] <Firefox> i dont understand this
[11:53] <glick> what the hell
[11:53] <shehzad> should i have to put yahoo/msn in the host name or where
[11:53] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, 14000 Chinese RMB :P I'm not sure how much that is in US dollars
[11:53] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: and, sorry, i dont think i can help you more .. i am not able to know which package provides "xorgconfig" :(
[11:54] <chuckyp> test?
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Host name?
[11:54] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: i am india, so do you know how many INR is it ?
[11:54] <daem0n> how can i go about adding a new user to a system and also giving them su access (via command line only)?
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: All you need is protocol, username, and password.
[11:54] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, no Idea!! :| but i know it's reasonable price for what I got
[11:55] <glick> does anyon know why the hell its doing that>?
[11:55] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, only problem is that its got that weird unsupported chipset :(
[11:55] <glick> how can i get my pannel back to its proper location?
[11:55] <sisreg06> j mossoro
[11:55] <syf> where in cn are ya toogreen1?
[11:55] <Tom_Kidd> Ubuntu gets the wrong free space off my Mp3 player, it says around 40mb free when theres around 500mb free.. Anyone else get this? (TSONIC)
[11:55] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: lol .. ok. RMB .. are sure your currency's called that ? is it Yuan Renminbi ?
[11:55] <golan> Hi everybody! I'm italian, and I've a question: how do you pronounce "thawte" ??
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> daem0n: You'll probably want to check out 'man adduser' and 'man visudo' (with its "See also"s).
[11:56] <rob> Tom_Kidd, check the .trash folder on your mp3 player
[11:56] <Tom_Kidd> I did
[11:56] <syf> 14000 is quite a bit for a lappie even in china
[11:56] <syf> heh
[11:56] <rob> did you rm it?
[11:56] <syf> that's hou gwai
[11:56] <gnomefreak> golan: that question is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <Tom_Kidd> yes
[11:56] <bob-jenkins> syf: hehe
[11:56] <bob-jenkins> :D
[11:56] <golan> thanks gnomefreak
[11:56] <golan> sorry for the disturb
[11:56] <zombics> how do i chek a pkg version ?
[11:56] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, 13,700.00 CNY China Yuan Renminbi 	= 	75,591.91 INR
[11:56] <gnomefreak> package -version
[11:57] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> zombics: 'apt-cache policy packagename' tells you some neat stuff too.
[11:57] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: ok.. expensive :S for me .. but really nice, seeing the features
[11:57] <zombics> gnomefreak, tonyyarusso thx
[11:57] <GutterPunk> Hi, does anyone happen to know of a stock ticker applet for gnome or KDE? Gtik looks a bit outdated.
[11:57] <GutterPunk> I'm thinking bout buying some shares :)
[11:57] <toogreen1> syf, I'm in Shanghai... I'm not Chinese tho, I'm from Canada but working here
[11:57] <bob-jenkins> does ubuntu not include a rss feed reader by default ?
[11:57] <syf> ah, nice :)
[11:58] <syf> that explains the price then ;p macau china here
[11:58] <livin4jc> hello
[11:58] <transgress> has there been any noted problems with nautilus as of late?
[11:58] <livin4jc> i have a question
[11:58] <bob-jenkins> hmm.. i really need to visit china to get my tech stuff once ..
[11:58] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: what is the exact laptop model ?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> livin4jc: ask it please
[11:58] <shehzad> i cant
[11:58] <shehzad> get it
[11:58] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, ACER TravelMate 4200
[11:59] <shehzad> how can type protocol
[11:59] <shehzad> r u there?
[11:59] <bob-jenkins> ok, ty, toogreen1 :D
[11:59] <syf> bob-jenkins, just remember, they usually don't put a price on it
[11:59] <livin4jc> i have two hardisks i recently installed ubuntu on my primary slave hd on the start up how can i chose ubuntu to boot up coz windows first boots up
[11:59] <syf> bob-jenkins, but it's probably not very different in india
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: I'm here.
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: You don't type the protocol, you select it from the dropdown list.
[11:59] <liable> livin4jc: bios
[11:59] <shehzad> i got it yahoooooooooooo its ok
[12:00] <bob-jenkins> syf: ok. and anyway, i dont have money to buy a new, as i said :D just want to look up the exact specs
[12:00] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, you really can't help me more with that? not even fix my video card? I can leave without the network for now as I can use my pcmcia wireless... buti really want the video to work properly!!
[12:00] <livin4jc> yeah i tried it on the bios but what should be the first device to boot up?
[12:00] <shehzad> i did but its saying didnt get email correct
[12:00] <liable> livin4jc: the slave drive
[12:00] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: well.. i cant find what provides xorgconfig .. which is REALLY strange
[12:00] <shehzad> should i have to give my msn or yahoo id and password
[12:01] <livin4jc> liable can you tell me the details
[12:01] <bob-jenkins> err.. power problem. damn
[12:01] <bob-jenkins> be back later
[12:01] <bob-jenkins> sorry, toogreen1 , catch ya later
[12:01] <toogreen1> bob-jenkins, the drivers i found seem to work only with XFree86... at least that's what they wrote in the readme files...
[12:01] <livin4jc> liable: have you done this before?
[12:01] <liable> livin4jc: no, go into bios, you should see two hd's, pick the second
[12:01] <bob-jenkins> toogreen1: just check for xorgocnfig ..
[12:01] <livin4jc> well i did that but it doesn't work
[12:01] <syf> btw.. i installed the drivers for my nvidia card from the nvidia site... and editted the xorg config file, now when i try to start my gdm it will say that the x server isn't working, has been disabled, etc. but X still starts up, what gives? :S
[12:01] <toogreen1> damn. :(
[12:02] <Ratmann> just coming here to say i love Ubuntu
[12:02] <Ratmann> lol
[12:02] <Ratmann> now carry on with the normal schedule
[12:02] <rob> heh good stuff
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Of course.
[12:02] <jubei> any ideas on the matrox myqstique?
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: You do intend to sign in to those accounts, do you not?
[12:02] <liable> livin4jc: then you have messed up when you installed, you might want to install grub to the mbr of the primary drive, should fix your problem.
[12:03] <livin4jc> can anyone give another option???
[12:03] <poningru> woah
[12:03] <rob> ooh ban spam
[12:03] <livin4jc> liable: when i set my hard drive where ubuntu is it does work right
[12:03] <Seveas> little cleanup...
[12:03] <poningru> more like unban spam
[12:03] <zombics> lots of banned ppl ahh?
[12:03] <rob> that too :)
[12:03] <livin4jc> i mean set it up as primary
[12:03] <unfou> lotsa people
[12:03] <Seveas> lotsa abuse...
[12:04] <Seveas> so lotsa bans
[12:04] <unfou> how do i add FS support for forgien language files to 5.10? (it works on the live CD)
[12:04] <liable> livin4jc: explain exactly what you mean then, i cant read minds.. you said it wouldnt boot..
[12:04] <zombics> in ubuntu it used the nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel?
[12:04] <Seveas> all bans by Ubugtu are mofos that abuse IRC exploits
[12:04] <poningru> hehe
[12:04] <blacking> hello all
[12:04] <Ekumba> hello
[12:04] <Seveas> (and I don't consider the term mofo a CoC violation when used for those people)
[12:04] <rob> Seveas, people have seemed to have gotten that out of their systems mostly now
[12:04] <Ekumba> does anyone know how i can access a directory with a "tube" symbol?
[12:04] <blacking> please does anyone here can help me how install ubuntu on USB drive__
[12:04] <blacking> ??
[12:05] <Seveas> rob, nope, still used today
[12:05] <Seveas> look at the ban list 
[12:05] <unfou> Ekumba: \|
[12:05] <rob> Seveas, we (freenode) was getting smashed by them a while ago
[12:05] <livin4jc> liable: i installed ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive but what i did was i set it up as primary first and disconnected the other drive which has windows, it will run well when that hard disk is set to primary master
[12:05] <Ekumba> unfou,yes?
[12:05] <unfou> Ekumba, that's how you access it
[12:05] <rob> now not as much
[12:05] <Seveas> yeah, it's starting to get less
[12:05] <Seveas> but it's still used from time to time
[12:05] <Ekumba> ah,ok
[12:05] <unfou> Ekumba, or start typing the name and click tab while in bash
[12:06] <Ekumba> an how can i make it normal?
[12:06] <poningru> unfou: what do you mean fs?
[12:06] <unfou> Ekumba, normal ?
[12:06] <poningru> file system?
[12:06] <unfou> poningru, yeah
[12:06] <blacking> link or anyelse how start is appreciate..
[12:06] <unfou> poningru, seeing files with characters other than english
[12:06] <liable> livin4jc: ok, so put the windows drive back in, and install grub to the mbr of that drive.
[12:06] <poningru> unfou: oh
[12:06] <poningru> unfou: just install those fonts
[12:06] <Ekumba> that the symbol becomes a "normal" sign.i can'T access a files or open the driectory
[12:06] <unfou> poningru, its not a fonts issue
[12:07] <livin4jc> how do i install grub to the mbr? of that drive? what's mbr btw? sorry im just new to linux
[12:07] <poningru> livin4jc: what are you trying to do?
[12:07] <unfou> poningru, i tried using the NLS UTF extension
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell livin4jc about mbr
[12:08] <gnomefreak> mbr = master boot record (first section of a hard disk)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> normally first section of your master disk
[12:08] <Curtman> Is there an easy way to patch & build a kernel from deb-src?
[12:09] <rob> well, apart from n=root
[12:09] <Seveas> exactly
[12:09] <rob> :)
[12:09] <Ekumba> ...help.please
[12:09] <rob> Ekumba, just ask :)
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> So now not only is it a bad idea to use IRC as root, it's not allowed either?
[12:10] <ompaul> !ask
[12:10] <rob> tonyyarusso, its not a good idea at least
[12:10] <Ekumba> i have a directory with a pipe sysmbol,can't access it.and my programs in this directory don't start
[12:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey?
[12:10] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, root404 is the registered nickname of an abuser...
[12:10] <rob> most things as root aren't
[12:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me how to fix sshserver?
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Oh.
[12:10] <poningru> a what symbol?
[12:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't know how can i change the password for one of my users
[12:10] <ompaul> Ekumba, pipe as in | ?
[12:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> because even though i know it is right.. i can't log in
[12:11] <Ekumba> what does | ? mean?
[12:11] <Ekumba> i'm a newbie
[12:11] <ompaul> Ekumba, that is a pipe, so you said pipe, that or > or that <  or something else
[12:11] <poningru> nothing except in bash it means pipe through to another comand
[12:12] <poningru> like cat foo.txt | grep bar
[12:12] <Ekumba> the symbol is like a pipe,with an x
[12:12] <ompaul> foo.txt bar is here
[12:12] <livin4jc> so after i have done that i can quickly chose from windows and linux and vice versa upon booting?
[12:12] <Ekumba> can't acceess this directory
[12:12] <unfou> Ekumba, \|
[12:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me how to fix sshserver?
[12:12] <Ekumba> \| what does that mean?where should i use this?
[12:12] <poningru> so the name of the directory is bu|far ?
[12:13] <poningru> something liek that?
[12:13] <unfou> Ekumba, how are you trying to access the directory ?
[12:13] <edan> i cant get nvidia drivers 2 work i installed the nvidia-glx pkg and edited xorg.conf but its still not working....
[12:13] <unfou> Ekumba, from where ?
[12:13] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, the password is the same as the regular users password on the system
[12:13] <Ekumba> i try to access it from the nautilius manager
[12:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and why i can't access with that user (me) even invoking ssh from the local shell?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> edan: did you install nvidia-settings?
[12:14] <Ekumba> data manager
[12:14] <edan> yep
[12:14] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, only root can start sshd (or use sudo)
[12:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean
[12:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the client
[12:14] <gnomefreak> edan: did you run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[12:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i try to access the server starting a client.. but when i put the password it ask me for it again
[12:15] <ompaul> Ekumba, okay do this click on "System ->  Take Screenshot" and the  upload the "photo" to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:15] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, you need to do: ssh -l usernameonserver sshserver
[12:15] <edan> dosnt work.... thers an error
[12:15] <Ekumba> ok
[12:15] <ArionH> what driver version are you trying to install, edan?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> edan: can you please paste the error to pastebin
[12:15] <edan> just a sec pls
[12:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rob: what's taht?
[12:16] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, thats using a Linux/Unix client to connect to the ssh server
[12:16] <zombics> edan, pastbin = http://rafb.net/paste
[12:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[12:16] <DigitalGheko> lo 
[12:16] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:16] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:16] <ompaul> zombics, we have our own :-)
[12:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but what does that command do?
[12:16] <edan> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[12:16] <edan> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[12:16] <edan> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[12:16] <edan> command:
[12:16] <edan> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[12:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> -l ok
[12:16] <edan> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[12:16] <edan> from nv to nvidia.
[12:16] <ompaul> edan, NO
[12:16] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, ssh is the standard ssh client
[12:16] <Ekumba> ompaul?i have done it
[12:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i know
[12:17] <ompaul> edan, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:17] <rob> -l lets you give a username
[12:17] <gnomefreak> edan: are you on dapper?
[12:17] <ompaul> Ekumba, just a moment
[12:17] <Ekumba> ok,thank u very much
[12:17] <gnomefreak> edan: have you done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose nvidia?
[12:18] <ArionH> i actually managed to install my nvidia driver, but whe i reboot i have to re-install the driver. can somebody help me out? :)
[12:18] <ubuntu> s
[12:18] <edan> whats paste.ubuntu-nl.or?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edan about nvidia
[12:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rob: i know! i use to use ssh username@hostname.of.server
[12:18] <Existe> hi all
[12:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i still can't log in
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edan about pastebin
[12:18] <edan> sorry im a bit knew on linux...
[12:18] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, does that username exist on the server?
[12:18] <ubuntu> hola
[12:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's me now :)
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rob: is the main user of my machine
[12:19] <gnomefreak> edan: read your pm about nvidia and pastebin
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe because it doesn't accept users that can be sudo?
[12:19] <edan> how can i check if im on dapper?
[12:19] <rob> no
[12:19] <gnomefreak> lsb_release -a
[12:19] <zombics> ArionH, probebly modules arnt loading at boot try modprobe nvidia
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ^^^type that in terminal
[12:20] <ArionH> ok
[12:20] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, maybe check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[12:20] <ubuntu> gnomefreak,  juas
[12:20] <gnomefreak> edan: sounds like you need to run sudo spkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:20] <ArionH> nothing happened
[12:20] <gnomefreak> juas?
[12:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's ssh-keygen?
[12:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i was checking that one
[12:20] <ArionH> do i need to insmod?
[12:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but no clue
[12:20] <shehzad> hay i got it
[12:20] <shehzad> yahooooooooooooooo and msnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[12:21] <shehzad> its nice
[12:21] <edan> how can i post the output i got from lsb_release -a?
[12:21] <shehzad> are u there?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> edan: just tell me what it says the code names
[12:21] <ArionH> im kinda new to linux
[12:21] <rob> Tallia1Kubuntu, its a different authentication method
[12:21] <lesshaste> what is the maximum number of swap partitions you can have?
[12:21] <Existe> Could anyone help me and tell me how to install Cmedia Audio SiS SI7012 Driver? when I installed ubuntu the sound was working properly, then I just mounted an NTFS partition and then installed a few audio codecs. sound has disappeared. "Device Not Detected". I'd be very thankful if anyone could help me solve this problem
[12:21] <ompaul> Ekumba, type >> ls -al /usr/local << in a terminal  >>applications accessories terminal << I don't know that symbol
[12:21] <gnomefreak> breezy badger ot dapper drake or hoary hedgehog?
[12:21] <edan> breezy
[12:21] <gnomefreak> edan: ty
[12:22] <shehzad> tonyyarusso are u there?
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think there was an error in the username specification
[12:22] <edan> np :)
[12:22] <ompaul> Ekumba, when you get that info back what is on the left side of the "bin" one
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in webmin i removed the second allowed one
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ok you need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make the driver nvidia
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and now it works
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :( tahnks anyway
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ^^^ed
[12:22] <crimsun> Existe: pastebin output from cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:22] <Ekumba> on the left side is:p----w----
[12:23] <gnomefreak> edan: read the comment above^^^
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: Yeah, I am.
[12:23] <highvoltage> hi. how do i see my entire 4GB RAM on a intel server board, besides compiling a new kernel?
[12:23] <edan> ya i saw...
[12:23] <Existe> crimsun thanks a lot
[12:23] <shehzad> thats great tony
[12:23] <edan> i need to run that when gdm is stopet?
[12:23] <shehzad> hay would u like to tell me how can i get study notes about this oprating system
[12:23] <Existe> just a minute
[12:23] <shehzad> its kool
[12:24] <crimsun> Existe: url when you're finished, please
[12:24] <shehzad> and tell me how can i map network drives of win xp at LAN?
[12:24] <Existe> crimsun
[12:24] <Existe> here it is
[12:24] <Existe> root@localhost:/home/existe/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.11rc3# cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:24] <Existe> 0 [SI7012         ] : ICH - SiS SI7012
[12:24] <Existe>                      SiS SI7012 with CMI9738 at 0xb800, irq 21
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: What do you mean by study notes?  For networking with Windows, look into !samba.
[12:25] <crimsun> Existe: your sound card is detected just fine, and DON'T paste here. Use pastebin.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> edan: no you can run that now if you like
[12:25] <ompaul> Seveas, can you take a look at this, I don't recognise the symbol on bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9808
[12:25] <shehzad> i want to get print outs then want to study how can i use this oprating system as clints and server like mail server and proxy
[12:26] <ompaul> Ekumba, I am asking Seveas to have a look it is beyond me - Seveas he says the permissions are  Ekumba on the left side is:p----w----
[12:26] <edan> gnomefreak, i'v enterd a screen wich i can choos xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-dbg what 2 choos??
[12:26] <shehzad> i am going to kick out my windows ;)
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> shehzad: I guess you could just print whatever pages are relevant from mans and the wiki.
[12:26] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to observe the active connections of a SSH server?
[12:26] <Ekumba> k
[12:26] <G0SUB> Seveas there?
[12:26] <Seveas> yes (but busy)
[12:27] <G0SUB> oh, ok
[12:27] <gnomefreak> edan: xserver-xorg i think
[12:27] <lesshaste> what is the maximum number of swap partitions you can have?
[12:27] <edan> gnomefreak, k
[12:27] <ErPiU> hi all, i should like "evolution" beeps when new mails came
[12:27] <aeon17x> stopkeylogger
[12:27] <edan> gnomefreak, i chose nvidia is that ok?
[12:28] <crimsun> Existe: what precisely is the problem with your sound?
[12:28] <shehzad> ok
[12:28] <shehzad> i will
[12:28] <gnomefreak> edan: yes
[12:28] <Ekumba> ...
[12:28] <edan> gnomefreak, how much memory to use?
[12:28] <heyjoe2> could someone help me: last night i set up mp3 playback and today its not working. any ideas why?
[12:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to observe the active connections of a SSH server?
[12:29] <Existe> crimsun well no sound comes out of my speakers, that's the problem
[12:29] <gnomefreak> edan: leave it blank
[12:29] <crimsun> Existe: pastebin the output from amixer
[12:29] <ompaul> Ekumba, I have no idea how you managed that - it should not be like that - and I don't know what the 'p' is
[12:29] <shehzad> tony how can i install more softwars like real player
[12:29] <edan> gnomefreak, use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[12:29] <Ekumba> ok.does anyone know it in here?
[12:30] <Ekumba> what does the permission:p----w---- mean?and how can i access it or redo it?
[12:30] <Existe> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[12:30] <Existe>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
[12:30] <Existe>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[12:30] <Existe>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[12:30] <Existe>   Front Left: Playback 31 [100%]  [on] 
[12:30] <Existe>   Front Right: Playback 31 [100%]  [on] 
[12:30] <Existe> Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
[12:30] <Existe>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
[12:30] <Existe>   Playback channels: Mono
[12:30] <Existe>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[12:31] <Existe>   Mono: Playback 31 [100%]  [off] 
[12:31] <Existe> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
[12:31] <Existe>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
[12:31] <Existe>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[12:31] <Existe>   Limits: Playback 0 - 255
[12:31] <Existe>   Front Left: Playback 255 [100%]  [on] 
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Existe: stop
[12:31] <Existe>   Front Right: Playback 255 [100%]  [on] 
[12:31] <Existe> Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
[12:31] <Existe>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[12:31] <gnomefreak> !ops
[12:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[12:31] <Existe>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:31] <crimsun> Existe: dude, _pastebin_
[12:31] <ompaul> np
[12:31] <crimsun> !tell Existe about pastebin
[12:31] <livin4jc> tell livin4jc windows
[12:31] <livin4jc> hehehe
[12:31] <Ekumba> thank u very much ompaul
[12:31] <Ekumba> what does the permission:p----w---- mean?and how can i access it or redo it?
[12:31] <iGotNoTime> thank you
[12:32] <heyjoe2> could someone help me fix a bizarre problem with ubuntu strangely no longer recognizing mp3, even though i configured it last night and it worked?
[12:32] <Seveas> I'm lagged
[12:32] <Seveas> let's try another server
[12:32] <brenner> heyjoe2: how did you config it?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> crimsun: you did that already how many time should you have to
[12:32] <livin4jc> someone pls give the command so that i can see how to reinstall grub if i have windows on the disk
[12:32] <livin4jc> i mean on the other disk
[12:32] <intelikey> Ekumba man chmod
[12:33] <brenner> livin4jc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:34] <heyjoe2> brenner: someone on here helped me with it
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> I do not have Ubuntu installed but have some easy questions prior to install....
[12:34] <heyjoe2> brenner: im 100% sure it worked last night
[12:34] <edan> gnomefreak, im srry for the naging but should i use kernel framebuffer device interface??
[12:34] <ompaul> Seveas, fast enough from here
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> the Add Applications does the entire install?
[12:34] <brenner> heyjoe2: what app are you using?
[12:34] <livin4jc> type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install -> can you please give examples of this X thingy
[12:34] <livin4jc> hheheh
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> With a GUI?
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: No.  You don't see that until the install is done.
[12:34] <iGotNoTime> I don't get along with the get functions on consoles
[12:34] <heyjoe2> brenner: tried it on amarok and rhythmbox
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: You don't need to know any console stuff for the install.
[12:35] <iGotNoTime> but when install is done to put in open source programs such as GAIM it is graphical?
[12:35] <Ekumba> intelikey:have read the man chmod.but i don't get it.how could i fix the p----w---- .i'm a newbie
[12:35] <brenner> livin4jc: type 'mount'.  the / partition is your root partition.  it should "say /dev/<something> on /".
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: It's not graphical and pretty, but pretty simple text menus, you just answer the questions.
[12:35] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[12:35] <brenner> livin4jc: that's the one you need to pass
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Correct.  But Gaim is installed by default.
[12:36] <livin4jc> hmmm
[12:36] <brenner> heyjoe2: what happens when you load an mp3?
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Add Applications will get you a lot of common things, and everything is available through Synaptic.
[12:36] <iGotNoTime> I just mean I do not have to know the -t-wblahblah.tar.gz junk right?
[12:36] <livin4jc> type $ grub-install /dev/hda/ ---> so this is what i should type?
[12:36] <iGotNoTime> like that ^^^^^^
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: No, unless you need to compile a driver or something.
[12:36] <iGotNoTime> ok thank you :)
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Even if you have to do command line, most things would be 'sudo apt-get install somecoolproggy'.
[12:37] <intelikey> Ekumba you read the man page  but still don't see how to use it ?      ok.    sudo chmod 644 <file>    if it's data   or    chmod 755 <file>   if it's (supposed to be) executable
[12:37] <iGotNoTime> It has been over a year since I have had nix running, is this a good distro?
[12:37] <heyjoe2> brenner: in amarok it says some media could not be loaded (not playable)
[12:37] <brenner> livin4jc: waht is the exact line mount returns for /?'
[12:37] <iGotNoTime> huge irc users!
[12:37] <heyjoe2> brenner: and earlier it said something about not recognizing mp3s, but i think that was in rhythmbox
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: I love it.  Straight from Windows XP into Hoary myself.
[12:38] <iGotNoTime> will be doing in about 20 minutes myself I think :P
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Very easy, friendly community, great documentation, and you can sit back and watch it improve.
[12:38] <intelikey> Ekumba also note that directories need to be executable.
[12:38] <livin4jc> brenner: sorry i don't get what you mean coz im just new to linux, can you give me an example?
[12:38] <iGotNoTime> what about dreamweaver ?
[12:38] <livin4jc> :)
[12:38] <Thedonn> Has anyone got VNC working correctly on Ubuntu?
[12:38] <iGotNoTime> wine?
[12:38] <Ekumba> i'll try somehow
[12:39] <iGotNoTime> is there a stable xp emulator for things like photoshop?
[12:39] <heyjoe2> brenner: any idea on how to get around it?
[12:39] <brenner> heyjoe2: double-checking: type this: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:39] <edan> whil configuring the xserver-xorg should i use kernel framebuffer device interface????
[12:39] <gnomefreak> iGotNoTime: i could be wrong but i dont think dreamweaver runs on wine
[12:39] <Thedonn> iGotNoTime, Crossover Office
[12:39] <Bennett> can someone help me with my software raid setup
[12:39] <iGotNoTime> Thedonn that is commercial isn't it?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> edan: i alwasy say no but thats my set up
[12:40] <Thedonn> iGotNoTime, It is
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Maybe.  I've heard reports that it works, but haven't tried.  Check out Nvu while you're at it though.
[12:40] <brenner> livin4jc: apps > accessories > terminal.  type 'mount'.  what's the first line?
[12:40] <edan> gnomefreak, lol ill say no 2....
[12:40] <iGotNoTime> Yes I just read up on that!
[12:40] <Ekumba> intelikey:ok,chmod has done something.there was a x symbol on the symbol of the "pipe" for this directory,it is gone
[12:40] <edan> gnomefreak, thnx
[12:40] <iGotNoTime> It looks good enough :P
[12:40] <livin4jc> im currenty on windows right now
[12:40] <gnomefreak> edan: when done dont forget to restart X
[12:40] <iGotNoTime> KDE is included or I need to install?
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Seems to be.  For other equivalent programs, see !alternative.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> iGotNoTime: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:41] <iGotNoTime> neither is installed yet
[12:41] <iGotNoTime> which is suggested?
[12:41] <livin4jc> brenner after i got the first line i would need to add that into hda?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> if useing ubuntu run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:41] <edan> gnomefreak, how can i know my keyboard options?
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Kubuntu comes with KDE, Ubuntu with Gnome.
[12:41] <iGotNoTime> I am doing it this morning
[12:41] <ali> iGotNoTime: ubuntu hehe
[12:41] <gnomefreak> iGotNoTime: kubuntu = ubuntu with kde
[12:42] <gnomefreak> edan: leave them as they are
[12:42] <me2win> KDE > Gnome
[12:42] <heyjoe2> brenner: http://pastebin.com/588689
[12:42] <brenner> livin4jc: damn.  i forgot you couldn't boot into ubuntu! *slaps forehead* sorry.
[12:42] <intelikey> iGotNoTime ubuntu is sujested.    you can add kde to ubuntu  or add gnome to kubuntu  as you wish.
[12:42] <Thedonn> Anyone using VNC here?
[12:42] <ali> Thedonn: yes
[12:42] <Ekumba> intelikey:now the permission is: prwxr-xr-x but  still can't open the directory.there is still a "pipe" symbol for the directory in the data manager
[12:42] <livin4jc> brenner: i can boot to ubunto if i use that hd as primary master on my computer
[12:43] <iGotNoTime> I have never used gnome, does it have any features over KDE?
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: I personally, just for kicks, have Gnome, KDE, XFCE, IceWM, E, and some others all on the same box.
[12:43] <Thedonn> iGotNoTime, I prefer Gnome
[12:43] <ali> iGotNoTime: it's sexier :)
[12:43] <iGotNoTime> gnome is?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> iGotNoTime: they are for the most part identical just differnet names for apps and different look
[12:43] <ali> iGotNoTime: imho :)
[12:43] <iGotNoTime> hehe
[12:43] <iGotNoTime> kk
[12:43] <me2win> iGotNoTime,
[12:43] <gnomefreak> gnome has menu on top kde has it set up like xp
[12:43] <me2win> if you want something that rocks
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: Check some screenshots and see what you like.
[12:43] <me2win> take KDE
[12:43] <me2win> you wont regret it
[12:43] <ali> gnomefreak: coming from a guy with a name gnomefreak, that's very even handed
[12:44] <Ekumba> intelikey:and why is this directory:prwxr-xr-x   2 12569 root 4096 2006-03-06 20:51 bin like this?shouldn't it be root root and not 12569 root?
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: You can put that menu wherever you want.
[12:44] <livin4jc> brenner: the other hard disk has windows xp, if i use the hd with windows xp as master and ubunto as slave and i go to bios and select ubunto hd as first boot up device it doesn't boot up
[12:44] <knuxxles> hi
[12:44] <heyjoe2> brenner: did u get the pastebin? mean anything to u?
[12:44] <intelikey> Ekumba i know nothing of "data manager"   what are you trying to do ?    and the permissions being p*  means pipe.   do an ls -l <file>  and show me the output
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ali: heres a secret i perfer xfce :) shhhhhhhhh dont tell
[12:44] <me2win> iGotNoTime, KDE is better, go with KDE
[12:44] <knuxxles> anyone can tell me if it's possible to change my mac address in ubuntu ?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: by default
[12:44] <Thedonn> me2win, rubbish
[12:44] <ali> gnomefreak: haha, now you're blowing my mind
[12:44] <iGotNoTime> so many opinions lol
[12:44] <brenner> livin4jc: ah.  then yeah, set it as master so you can run mount
[12:44] <ali> iGotNoTime: look essentially they're the same. try both see which you like best.
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Well, yeah, but what's a default really when it's that easy to customize as you wish?
[12:45] <Ekumba> intelikey:ls -l /usr/local/bin
[12:45] <Ekumba> prwxr-xr-x  2 12569 root 4096 2006-03-06 20:51 /usr/local/bin
[12:45] <iGotNoTime> which one has more wasteful RAM consuming widjets I can install?
[12:45] <ali> iGotNoTime: haha probably kde
[12:45] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: in that case wouldnt matter what it came with
[12:45] <livin4jc> brenner: after i have completed the process i should be able to boot up ubunto hard disk even though it a slave drive?
[12:45] <brenner> livin4jc: you can't just use /dev/hda afaik.  you need to know (a) if it is actually /dev/hda that / is mounted on, and (b) which partition it's on. i.e. /dev/hdaX
[12:45] <knuxxles> I have another computer which is an ibook g4
[12:45] <Thedonn> iGotNoTime, Have you tried windows 98Se or ME?
[12:45] <brenner> heyjoe2: it's already installed
[12:45] <knuxxles> my isp configured my internet access with that computer
[12:45] <brenner> weird
[12:45] <me2win> iGotNoTime, KDE
[12:45] <knuxxles> when I try to switch to my ubuntu running pc
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: If you're looking for wasteful, why not go my route, install both, check one out for the first week, and the other for the second, and then choose?
[12:46] <knuxxles> my network connection doesn't work
[12:46] <intelikey> ok it's a pipe to the /usr/local/bin   Ekumba    what are you trying to do in  /usr/local/bin ?
[12:46] <ali> iGotNoTime: me2win is obviously a kde fanboi :)
[12:46] <me2win> iGotNoTime, but they are hardly RAM oconsuming in KDE
[12:46] <knuxxles> because mac addresses are different
[12:46] <knuxxles> is there anyway I can fix this?
[12:46] <heyjoe2> brenner: yeah thats what i thought, any ideas why it wouldnt be working
[12:46] <me2win> ali, Gnome users = OS9 fanbois
[12:46] <iGotNoTime> I will do as suggested and just install Windows ME
[12:46] <iGotNoTime> I get a clock with that!
[12:46] <ali> me2win: you = a troll :)
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> me2win: Gnome user.  Haven't used a Mac since LONG before that.
[12:47] <knuxxles> nobody has no idea about my problem :(
[12:47] <ali> knuxxles: sorry what is your problem
[12:47] <Ekumba> i want to open the directory and access the files.i had a file named amule in there.i copied it to the desktop to open amule from there.now i can't nether access the file/directory nor open amule
[12:47] <ali> is there any way i can monitor what apt is doing at the moment?
[12:47] <Ekumba> what does pipe mean?
[12:47] <me2win> iGotNoTime, If you want Desktop Environment that isn't completely behind the competition, use KDE. Otherwise, if you want something that LOOKS old and WORKS old... use Gnome
[12:47] <Healot> '|'
[12:47] <me2win> Qt > Gtk
[12:47] <ali> Ekumba: this symbol "|"
[12:48] <heyjoe2> brenner: when i open it in rhythmbox the file plays but really fast, like the progress bar goes really fast and no sound comes out obviously
[12:48] <Thedonn> me2win, KDE fanboi -> win32 haXor
[12:48] <Ekumba> ok
[12:48] <ali> me2win: have you heard of #kubuntu :P
[12:48] <knuxxles> I have two computers, primary one is an ibbok g4 runs on mac os x
[12:48] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[12:48] <ali> knuxxles: yep
[12:48] <knuxxles> the other one is a ubuntu running pc
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> iGotNoTime: There are also many good reviews/comparisons of the two that Google can direct you too, but the best way is probably experiencing them.
[12:48] <ali> knuxxles: ok
[12:48] <knuxxles> my internet service provider fixed my internet access with the mac adress of my notebook
[12:49] <ali> knuxxles: yep
[12:49] <me2win> ali, yes, im in all 4 english rooms lol
[12:49] <makhou> hi
[12:49] <knuxxles> so when I switch to my pc, I can't connect to internet
[12:49] <Thedonn> me2win, p4wned by KDE
[12:49] <Ekumba> but what does pipe mean for the acccessibility?or what is the function of it and where does it came from?it was'nt there yesterday
[12:49] <Thedonn> :-)
[12:49] <ali> knuxxles: are the mac and pc connected?
[12:49] <Healot> is that even legal?
[12:49] <brenner> heyjoe2: i'm not sure to be honest.
[12:49] <iGotNoTime> I will probably try them both, I used KDE before so will probably try gnome first :)
[12:49] <heyjoe2> brenner: ok thanks for your help anyway
[12:49] <brenner> heyjoe2: try beep-media-player
[12:49] <Thedonn> knuxxles, I had that very same problem as you
[12:49] <me2win> iGotNoTime, I agree with tonyyarusso, best way is experience them yourself, KDE vs. Gnome is a never ending debate
[12:49] <knuxxles> and it feels extremely rubbish to call them every time when I switch my computers
[12:49] <ali> Ekumba: a pipe is used to combine command line tools.
[12:49] <knuxxles> no they are not connected
[12:49] <iGotNoTime> yes
[12:49] <heyjoe2> is that another type of media player?
[12:50] <knuxxles> can I change my ubuntu based pc's mac address
[12:50] <Firefox> plz help
[12:50] <rob> me2win, besides, xfce4 is better
[12:50] <knuxxles> so it can be same with my notebook
[12:50] <brenner> heyjoe2: yep. sort of like winamp classic
[12:50] <knuxxles> so I can connect to internet with no problem
[12:50] <Thedonn> knuxxles, really it should be the mac of your router, but I assume they wont support that
[12:50] <Firefox> to compile xmms need glib > 1.2.2
[12:50] <Firefox> i donwload
[12:50] <Firefox> glib
[12:50] <Ekumba> but why can't access the pipe directory?i have my amule executable in there,so that amule doesn't start anymore
[12:50] <ali> knuxxles: here is a way i can see you using them without screwing with the mac address', just turn on the ibook, plug the ibook into the pc, turn on internet sharing on the ibook over ethernet, set up the pc to connect via dhcp and bam!
[12:50] <Firefox> ./configre - no erros
[12:50] <me2win> rob, lol
[12:51] <brenner> Firefox: xmms is in the repos
[12:51] <Firefox> make have erros
[12:51] <heyjoe2> ok, but its still a strange problem
[12:51] <brenner> Firefox: no need to compie
[12:51] <ali> Ekumba: I'm not sure I know what you're talking about
[12:51] <rob> actually, the latest xfce4 from their svn rocks
[12:51] <Firefox> i dont have connect to internet
[12:51] <brenner> heyjoe2: i agree
[12:51] <intelikey> Ekumba i'm not sure what has happened there.  but it looks to me like your emule is trying to pipe data to/from /usr/local/bin  to/from /usr/local/bin    i.e.  mobius loop.     ;S
[12:51] <ali> Firefox: what are you trying to install?
[12:51] <Firefox> xmms
[12:51] <Firefox> from source
[12:51] <Thedonn> knuxxles, Why not be able to use both at the same time?
[12:51] <heyjoe2> anyone out there think they might be able to help me with none of the apps playing mp3s, despite the fact that it was playing last night
[12:51] <ali> Firefox: what are the make errors
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> Firefox: How'd you get the source?  And why not get a .deb instead?
[12:51] <ali> heyjoe2: YEAH
[12:52] <Ekumba> ok,and what should i do now?
[12:52] <Firefox> i need isntall source
[12:52] <ali> heyjoe2: excuse the caps
[12:52] <heyjoe2> ali: when i open it in rhythmbox the file plays but really fast, like the progress bar goes really fast and no sound comes out obviously
[12:52] <Firefox> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[12:52] <brenner> Firefox: i assume you installed build-essential (i'm pretty sure you can get that off the cd)
[12:52] <Ekumba> how can i restore it?i just have tried to open the amule file from there yesterday and it worked
[12:52] <ali> heyjoe2: open rhythmbox from the commandline play a song and tell me what the command line says
[12:52] <Firefox> i was isnatlll
[12:52] <Firefox> esseee.e.e.
[12:53] <intelikey> Ekumba i don't really know i've never messed an inode up like that before....
[12:53] <Thedonn> Anyone got experience with VNC in here?
[12:53] <ali> Firefox: what is your native language?
[12:53] <Ekumba> but now ihaven't any access.and can't delete it
[12:53] <ali> Thedonn: yes
[12:53] <heyjoe2> ali: sorry i dont know how to open it from the command line. but i am good at pasting :)
[12:53] <ali> heyjoe2: it's not hard, open up the command line then type "rhythmbox"
[12:53] <heyjoe2> ok
[12:53] <Ekumba> oh,great.and what to do now
[12:53] <Thedonn> ali, Im having problems config the damn thing, do you run Gnome through it?
[12:53] <Ekumba> :-(
[12:53] <Firefox> i was download glib 1.2.10
[12:53] <Firefox> but cant install
[12:53] <Firefox> stupid erros
[12:54] <Firefox> when i make
[12:54] <heyjoe2> ali: how do i play a song
[12:54] <ali> Firefox: that's why you don't install stuff from source :)
[12:54] <intelikey> Ekumba try    sudo ls /usr/local/bin/
[12:54] <Healot> Firefox, you "need" the "libglib-dev" (the developement file, not only the "libglib" (the runtime)
[12:54] <ali> heyjoe2: just like normal, with the GUI
[12:54] <intelikey> see if root can break through the loop...
[12:54] <heyjoe2> ali: ok
[12:54] <Firefox> all glibs files installed
[12:54] <ali> Thedonn: what do you want to do
[12:54] <Firefox> in ubuntu
[12:54] <ansh> hi....i hv just installed ubuntu 5.10 n it is not detecting my sound card...........i hv intel 915gav motherboard
[12:54] <heyjoe2> ali: with rhythmbox i get no error message, the progress bar just goes real fast
[12:54] <Healot> libglib-dev, dev package, not runtime package...
[12:54] <ansh> can ne1 help me??
[12:55] <heyjoe2> ali: but in amarok i get an error message
[12:55] <chuckyp> ansh, no sounds work at all?
[12:55] <ansh> yeah
[12:55] <ali> heyjoe2: i want you to look at the terminal where you launched rhythmbox, what does it say after the initial rhythmbox command
[12:55] <Thedonn> ali, Can I PM you, moving to fast in here, wanna see your xstartup is possible?
[12:55] <Firefox> i need just install stupid player
[12:55] <Ekumba> nope,didn't do anything
[12:55] <chuckyp> ansh, what type of sound card do you have?
[12:55] <Firefox> & i cant
[12:55] <ali> Thedonn: what
[12:55] <intelikey> Ekumba   sudo killall emule
[12:56] <Thedonn> ali, /.vnc/xstartup ?
[12:56] <chuckyp> Firefox, what player?
[12:56] <intelikey> then try the ls again
[12:56] <Firefox> xmms
[12:56] <ansh> HDA intel
[12:56] <ali> Thedonn: yeah ok pm me
[12:56] <Firefox> from sources
[12:56] <heyjoe2> ok
[12:56] <Firefox> not repozitories
[12:56] <chuckyp> Firefox, why not just install it from apt?
[12:56] <knuxxles> ali: internet sharing with pc/mac was kinda problem with windows. is it really easy with ubuntu?
[12:56] <Firefox> no apt
[12:56] <Firefox> no internet
[12:56] <chuckyp> Firefox, well how'd you get the source?
[12:56] <Firefox> just have sources
[12:56] <brenner> Firefox: how are you talking now the?
[12:56] <brenner> s/the/then
[12:57] <heyjoe2> ali: frank@ubuntu:~$ rhythmbox is all that happened
[12:57] <Firefox> internet only in windows
[12:57] <heyjoe2> ali: nothing after
[12:57] <ali> knuxxles: yep, you just have the mac set to share the internet over ethernet, then have ubuntu connect via dhcp. that's it
[12:57] <Firefox> its half-life to install my adsl modem
[12:57] <brenner> heyjoe2: you running dapper or breezy?
[12:57] <ali> heyjoe2: ok try it with amarok
[12:57] <chuckyp> Firefox, what type of internet connection do you have? Why don't we get the internet connection working in nix?
[12:57] <Ekumba> intelikey:nope.it says that there hasn't been aborted any process
[12:57] <Firefox> adsl
[12:57] <Firefox> access runnner
[12:58] <Firefox> acorp srinter@adsl
[12:58] <heyjoe2> brenner: breezy
[12:58] <chuckyp> Firefox, So its dsl?  And it uses pppoe?
[12:58] <Firefox> sprinter
[12:58] <ansh> hey chuck!!!! u thr?
[12:58] <Firefox> adsl ppoe
[12:58] <chuckyp> ansh, yeah
[12:58] <ansh> i hv HDA intel sound card
[12:58] <intelikey> Ekumba use top or "ps ax "   to search for emule  make sure it's not running.
[12:58] <chuckyp> Firefox, just run the pppoe conf in nix
[12:58] <ansh> now how to config it??
[12:58] <Firefox> its not just
[12:59] <Firefox> my modem its oomgmgm
[12:59] <chuckyp> ansh, did you check the wiki in the sound section?
[12:59] <heyjoe2> ali: http://pastebin.com/588716
[12:59] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[12:59] <babo> Hi, I have to run and compile the nvidia installer now every time my computer boots up ... when I try to add the module to the kernel insmod and modprobe give me different errors - namely insmod tells me that the nvidia.ko file is already there, modprobe tells me that it's a fatal file that doesn't exist ????????  Help anyone ?
[12:59] <Firefox> he cant run with out dirvers
[12:59] <Firefox> drivers
[12:59] <ansh> how to reach wiki??
[12:59] <Firefox> i have somedrivers to him
[12:59] <chuckyp> !tell ansh about wiki
[12:59] <Firefox> in rpm
[12:59] <Firefox> with dkms
[12:59] <intelikey> Ekumba any idea what all you are going to loose if you have to rm that dir ?      emule for one thing.    were there other files in there ?
[12:59] <chuckyp> ansh sry hold up
[01:00] <intelikey> does ubuntu have anything in /usr/local/bin  by default ?
[01:00] <intelikey> anyone    ^
[01:00] <ali> heyjoe2: did you play a song?
[01:00] <liable> shouldnt
[01:00] <chuckyp> ansh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-a7eb4b290e8ca4dd102895d5e740a9e5a19e7a2c
[01:00] <heyjoe2> ali: when i play a song in amarok i get a g streamer error
[01:00] <liable> intelikey: its for compiled/user added apps
[01:00] <Ekumba> don't know if there were some files...i know that there were some,but not made by me.
[01:00] <ali> heyjoe2: ok what does it say?
[01:01] <Firefox> i lose 3.5 mb & dont get player
[01:01] <ansh> yeah chuck i m trying it
[01:01] <Firefox> & cant play mp3
[01:01] <intelikey> liable yes.    does that mean that ubuntu leaves it empty ?   or only adds *
[01:01] <chuckyp> Firefox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE  get that working first.  Trust me apt-get install xmms would be so much easier.
[01:01] <heyjoe2> ali: it doesnt stay up long enough. something about /dev/dsp being used by another program
[01:01] <gnomefreak> where can i check what has been done from one kernel to another
[01:01] <Bennett> can someone help me out here, I'm having trouble with my raid setup
[01:02] <ali> heyjoe2: did you play a song when you opened amarok from the cli and then pasted that output into the pastebin?
[01:02] <liable> intelikey: i cant say exactly, i dont have access to a ubuntu machine. what do you mean by adds *?
[01:02] <ompaul> gnomefreak, pm?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> same kernel differnet versions
[01:02] <danboid> I added deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free to my sources.list for ubuntu-plf, apt didn't produce any errors when I updated it yet none of the plf packages (w32codecs etc.) are showing up under synaptic. Is that repos down?
[01:02] <Ekumba> intelikey:i have made ps ax,and amule isn't running
[01:02] <chuckyp> ansh, open a terminal and run lspci
[01:02] <intelikey> Ekumba well you should be able to    ' sudo rm -i /usr/local/bin '    root can delete it .
[01:02] <dyggMerald> is it by any chance possible to create a bootable "dos disc" using linux
[01:03] <Ekumba> i hope there wouldn't be any problems with the system?
[01:03] <vladuz976> how can i use talk or write to send other users a message?
[01:03] <heyjoe2> ali: ill just get u the pastebin for that now
[01:03] <chuckyp> ansh, "lspci | grep Multimedia" that will show you if the system is detecting your sound card.
[01:03] <intelikey> Ekumba    ' sudo rm -Ri /usr/local/bin '
[01:03] <ali> heyjoe2: roger
[01:03] <heyjoe2> ali: http://pastebin.com/588722
[01:04] <Ekumba> ok,i try it
[01:04] <Ekumba> it's gone
[01:04] <Ekumba> ok
[01:04] <intelikey> you can    sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin     ekumba afterwards.
[01:04] <danboid> anybody got a sources.list entry for ubuntu-plf that works?
[01:04] <Ekumba> ok,made it
[01:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell danboid about easysource
[01:05] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[01:05] <ali> heyjoe2: for future reference, any time an app crashes/doesn't work do this and find out whats going on. as you can see here there is some critical gstreamer error. next step, is google the error string, see if other people have had the same problem.
[01:05] <heyjoe2> ali: whats the error string?
[01:05] <intelikey> what exactly did you do Ekumba to turn /usr/local/bin  into a pipe to /usr/local/bin ?     i want to make a note on it  ?
[01:06] <heyjoe2> ali: is it (process:24096): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_pad_send_event: assertion `GST_STATE  (parent) >= GST_STATE_PAUSED' failed
[01:06] <intelikey> Ekumba was it a pointy clicky drag and drop thing ?
[01:06] <chuckyp> danboid, http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf  read that.
[01:06] <babo> I'm having problems with the skype hijacker ... namely that there isn't one for 64 and that when I try to compile one myself with -m32 ... I get various linker errors
[01:06] <heyjoe2> i wasnt playing it on amarok last night, i was playing it on rhythmbox, but why would it stop working after just one night?
[01:07] <heyjoe2> ali: i googled (process:24096): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_pad_send_event: assertion `GST_STATE  (parent) >= GST_STATE_PAUSED' failed
[01:07] <heyjoe2>  and nothing came up
[01:07] <Ekumba> i installed amule from ubuntu,then i realised that it was an older version.so i installed amule from the net,an newer version with kad.but there wasn't any icon or file i could execute,just the one in the bin directory,so i just drag and dropped it on the desktop tray
[01:07] <Ekumba> how could i now install amule the right way?
[01:07] <Ekumba> the new version
[01:08] <ansh> chuck i tried alsamixer......speakers got on
[01:08] <ali> heyjoe2: yeah don't put that proccess part in. so i have had a look around, can't see anything but there are a few things we can try. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:08] <ansh> it is showing sound card
[01:08] <chuckyp> ansh, what's showing sound card?
[01:08] <ansh> actually alsamixer wasnt properly configured
[01:08] <chuckyp> ansh, so now you are set?
[01:08] <dyggMerald> found it http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DOS_boot_disk  ;)
[01:08] <heyjoe2> ali: im pretty sure its breezy. the standard one from the net
[01:08] <intelikey> Ekumba reinstall it as before.  but rather than drag and drop  right click and creat a launcher
[01:08] <MyISPsuX> How Ironic! I was 80% on my ISO download and I got the famous xp blue screen!
[01:08] <ansh> yeah smwht??
[01:08] <spiekey> howdy!
[01:08] <spiekey> i have a i386 box with an adaptec raid controller and when i boot it with the 5.10 breezy server iso i get a kernel panic.
[01:09] <heyjoe2> ali: when i run rhythmbox from the command line and play a track i dont get any error message.
[01:09] <spiekey> i have already tried it with: vga=normal noapic noscsi nodma noapm nousb nopcmcia nofirewire noagp nodhcp xmodule=vesa
[01:09] <Ekumba> ok,but how do i creat a launcher?
[01:09] <Overand> MyISPsuX: XP bluescreens are usually an indication of something *bad*
[01:09] <ali> heyjoe2: ok, are other sounds playing?
[01:09] <heyjoe2> ali: in the command line or application
[01:09] <chuckyp> Ekumba, how could you move something from there by dragging with out root.  You just copied it you didn't move it.
[01:09] <NET||abuse> Just setup kopete there, i'm wondering is there a plugin to share and view a personal picture, like msn has the image for your account, in the chat window?
[01:09] <chuckyp> Ekumba, or you made a sym link.
[01:09] <ansh> do i hv to gstream packages to run player like xmms or totem??
[01:09] <Overand> it's not like the win9x era when they happened all the time
[01:09] <heyjoe2> ali: yep, when i use gaim it works
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Ekumba: right click panel add custom launcher in the command section put the command to launch it from cli
[01:09] <Overand> MyISPsuX: so, there's a chance you've got bad hardware, heh.
[01:09] <Ekumba> don't know,then u guess i copied it out of there
[01:09] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, gaim does the same thing as kopete.
[01:09] <Ekumba> yes
[01:10] <MyISPsuX> yes overhand xp does not like my MSI video drivers
[01:10] <ali> heyjoe2: ok umm have you recently installed any audio/video applications like amarok or vlc or anything?
[01:10] <NET||abuse> chuckyp: yeh, but it doesn't have all the neat plugins.
[01:10] <chuckyp> ansh, no you don't need them to run the apps.  But to play certain stuff you will.
[01:10] <intelikey> right click on the desktop and select what ever creat a launcher your desktop offers.... then make the executable line say /usr/local/bin/emule    or what ever the exact name is.    emule.sh or what ever.
[01:10] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, what plugins?
[01:10] <brenner> MyISPsuX: could be worse.  you could be on dialup
[01:10] <Guard] [an> hello
[01:10] <Overand> haha Overhand
[01:10] <NET||abuse> chuckyp: or do gaim have all the same plugins? you prefer gaim then?
[01:10] <intelikey> Ekumba ^
[01:10] <MyISPsuX> LOL
[01:11] <Overand> MyISPsuX: also i suggest you get in the habit of using tab-complete, esp. as you're entering the unix world
[01:11] <ansh> but rite now while playing mp3 in xmms it is not playing d songz????
[01:11] <danboid> thanks gnomefreak- the source-o-matic deb entry works fine!
[01:11] <Guard] [an> will ubuntu's gnome provide me more stuff than emerging gnome under gentoo ?
[01:11] <Guard] [an> i mean, better config or such
[01:11] <Overand> ^
[01:11] <Overand> &
[01:11] <heyjoe2> ali: i installed amarok after i got it working. and when i mentioned this problem someone recommended i install beep media player
[01:11] <Ekumba> ok,i'll try.thank you very much intelikey!!!
[01:11] <heyjoe2> ali: is it worth trying to uninstall amarok?
[01:11] <intelikey> overland what are you ranting about ?
[01:11] <ali> heyjoe2: you don't have any .ogg media files by any chance?
[01:11] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, i've used gaim for a while on both windows and nix.  I dunno maybe i'm just used to it.  I've only briefly played with kopete.
[01:11] <intelikey> Ekumba any time.
[01:12] <Overand> gaim on windows suffers from 'gtk-on-windows-suck'
[01:12] <danboid> How do I turn the password off on 'Hibernate computer' ?
[01:12] <heyjoe2> ali: no only mp3s
[01:12] <chuckyp> Overand, but its better than trillian takes less resources.
[01:12] <ansh> chuck it is asking me to run gst-register
[01:12] <Guard] [an> gaim on windows does not work when you have gtk 2.8
[01:12] <ali> heyjoe2: do you have broadband?
[01:12] <heyjoe2> ali: yes
[01:12] <heyjoe2> ali: the inferior australian variety
[01:13] <brenner> heh
[01:13] <djy> how to setup ati drever
[01:13] <intelikey> ok i'm out of time....   see some of yall tomarrow.
[01:13] <chuckyp> ansh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-1a79cdebf301ad3068706c74427e869ca90c5920  if you follow that along they walk you through installing multimedia support etc...
[01:13] <brenner> ubotu: tell djy about ati
[01:13] <ali> heyjoe2: haha so do I, although mine's nice i've got dsl2 :) anyhow download this musicfile and we'll se if this works
[01:13] <heyjoe2> ali: ok
[01:13] <ali> heyjoe2: http://www.vorbis.com/music/Hydrate-Kenny_Beltrey.ogg
[01:14] <ali> heyjoe2: now i've never listened to this so i can't guarantee it won't suck :)
[01:14] <djy> I use dapper
[01:14] <ansh> thnx chuck .....songz r running now.....it is enrique!!! hehe.....thnx a lot dude!!!
[01:14] <heyjoe2> ali: heres a point
[01:14] <jomarie> hi
[01:14] <jomarie> s;
[01:14] <jomarie> haolw
[01:14] <heyjoe2> ali: gaim sounds dont seem to be working, but they were working like an hour ago
[01:14] <Overand> chuckyp: i use gaim on windows, but i love how with many tabs open, resizing the window can cause the UI thread to lock up
[01:14] <djy> hi
[01:14] <heyjoe2> ali: out of the blue stopped working
[01:14] <Overand> the best part of that  bug is that it's been in there for AT LEAST A YEAR
[01:14] <ali> heyjoe2: we'll just try out this music file
[01:15] <ali> heyjoe2: i've got a suspicion as to what the matter is
[01:15] <jomarie> dsad
[01:15] <jomarie> ] dhs
[01:15] <jomarie> ] sd
[01:15] <jomarie> sds
[01:15] <jomarie> ds
[01:15] <jomarie> d
[01:15] <jomarie> sd
[01:15] <jomarie> s
[01:15] <jomarie> ds
[01:15] <heyjoe2> ali: ok. its still loading
[01:15] <chuckyp> Overand, I haven't experienced it.  Must not talk enough
[01:16] <liable> yay
[01:16] <brenner> djy: the wiki covers from hoary forward
[01:16] <danboid> is there a repository with the latest amule (2.1.0) for breezy?
[01:16] <ali> heyjoe2: cool
[01:17] <Ekumba> danboid:http://forum.amule.org/thread.php?threadid=8617&sid=6b674def1b3c2da7952efeb75ed6ba56
[01:17] <heyjoe2> ali: and now it appears frozen
[01:18] <ali> heyjoe2: what does?'
[01:18] <heyjoe2> ali: i refresh and i get nothin
[01:18] <heyjoe2> ali: the ogg
[01:18] <ali> heyjoe2: what are you playing it with?
[01:18] <foxpaul> is there a way to ignore a directory when using -R - i want to chown all dirs in ~/temp apart from 1 of them, but i need to do it automatically
[01:18] <heyjoe2> ali: i just opened the link with mozilla
[01:19] <ali> heyjoe2: did it download the file?
[01:19] <ali> heyjoe2: or did it playin mozilla?
[01:19] <NET||abuse> wow, loving this stuff, gnome just works so well
[01:19] <NET||abuse> :)
[01:19] <MyISPsuX> hey what is the difference in the CD and the DVD versions?
[01:19] <shiv> when I run tsclient the ICA is greyed out. How do I select that?
[01:19] <heyjoe2> i clicked on the link and selected open in web browser
[01:19] <gnomefreak> amule is part of emacs right?
[01:19] <MyISPsuX> I can't find it on the website
[01:19] <MyISPsuX> no descriptions
[01:20] <heyjoe2> ali: and i get a blackscreen with a play button that i cant hit and a progress bar
[01:20] <NET||abuse> i have all my msn on kopete, my ntfs drive mounted, a fat32 drive mounted, Xgl+compiz working..... hahahahhaa, god bless days like today
[01:20] <ali> heyjoe2: ok just type this from the command line
[01:20] <ali> heyjoe2: wget http://www.vorbis.com/music/Hydrate-Kenny_Beltrey.ogg
[01:20] <NET||abuse> now, if i can just get my tortoisesvn repositories converted and uploaded onto my debian box's svn server
[01:21] <Bennett> can anyone here help me with my raid setup
[01:21] <heyjoe2> ali: ok in process
[01:21] <shiv> when I run tsclient the ICA is greyed out. How do I select that? Plz help
[01:21] <ali> heyjoe2: it's downloading?
[01:21] <jc2> Bennett: What kind of raid are you setting up? I'm currently reloading a mixed Raid1+5 server environment.
[01:21] <heyjoe2> ali: yes
[01:22] <ali> heyjoe2: yell when its done
[01:22] <Bennett> A software linear raid
[01:22] <danboid> ekumba: Thanks- have you tried both packages (of the two diffeent guys)? Which one are you using?
[01:22] <Bennett> it worlked b4
[01:22] <heyjoe2> ali: cheers
[01:22] <Bennett> I just can't re-creat the device
[01:22] <Bennett> I type sudo mdadm -A /dev/md0
[01:23] <fval> hola soy de bollullos y tu
[01:23] <Bennett> and i get an error saying device or resource busy
[01:23] <MyISPsuX> other than the 2.1GB what is the difference between the CD ISO & the DVD ISO ?
[01:23] <jc2> Bennett : I'm doing software raid1+5 are you using mdadm?
[01:23] <me2win> http://kde-apps.org/news/index.php?id=221
[01:23] <Bennett> yes
[01:23] <apokryphos> the DVD is live+install
[01:23] <me2win> ^Torvals Recommends KDE
[01:23] <MyISPsuX> ok
[01:23] <MyISPsuX> thanks
[01:24] <heyjoe2> ali: done
[01:24] <jc2> Bennett: I got mine configured through here.. http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/mdadm
[01:24] <heyjoe2> ali: 00%[[01:24] <heyjoe2> 20:23:32 (25.87 KB/s) - `Hydrate-Kenny_Beltrey.ogg' saved [3900576/3900576] 
[01:24] <heyjoe2> frank@ubuntu:~$
[01:24] <ali> me2win: haha do you think that you're going to convert people or are you just trying to annoy people
[01:24] <jc2> For the most part.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> heyjoe2: please use pastebin to paste
[01:24] <ali> heyjoe2: ok cool so now open that up (it'll be in your homefolder) with rhythmbox and see if it plays
[01:24] <heyjoe2> gnomefreak: sorry, but i thought it'd be ok seeing as though some people write sentences longer.
[01:24] <me2win> ali, why would i be trying to annoy people? I'm just showing what Torvalds said.
[01:24] <me2win> his quote is quite convinving
[01:25] <gnomefreak> heyjoe2: read the /topic there is no pasting in herre
[01:25] <fval> desde ahora solo entiendo en espaol
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !es
[01:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:25] <ali> me2win: how do you know, were you using gnome and swithced to kde
[01:25] <heyjoe2> ali: rhythmbox says not playing
[01:25] <ali> heyjoe2: ok what about amarok?
[01:26] <me2win> ali, only reason i use Kubuntu, is because i used to use Ubuntu and didn't like the DE, so i tried KDE
[01:26] <ali> ali: not because torvalds told you to?
[01:26] <heyjoe2> ali: i got the g streamer error
[01:26] <vagner> ola
[01:27] <danboid> amarok is over hyped imo. I think GNOME is cleaner, nautilus is a faster, better file manager but KDE has k3b and koffice
[01:27] <gnomefreak> lol tonyyarusso
[01:27] <ali> heyjoe2: ok, so now it's established that it's not anything to do with mp3
[01:28] <heyjoe2> ali: gosh, how did this happen, i didnt even do anything
[01:28] <danboid> Does anyone know how to turn off the password on the 'Hibernate Computer' when the computer has restarted?
[01:29] <KakiPukul> just matter of preference... the thing that matter, you know how to use those environments
[01:29] <ali> heyjoe2: from the command line try this gstreamer-properties
[01:29] <ali> heyjoe2: well it couldn't play .ogg either so by process of elimination it can't be mp3's :)
[01:29] <heyjoe2> ali: i did it and a window popped up
[01:30] <ali> ok hold on i've got to switch computers give me 30 secs, i'll be called "johnnybezak"
[01:30] <heyjoe2> ali: aight
[01:30] <danboid> Does nobody use the 'Hibernate computer' shutdown option?
[01:30] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: back
[01:30] <KakiPukul> to play mp3 in totem >> install "gstreamer-mad", "libmad0" and all their dependencies
[01:30] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: quick
[01:30] <KakiPukul> not w32codes, hohoho, no
[01:30] <brenner> heh.  gee, that nick change seems kinda fishy
[01:31] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: hehe
[01:31] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: ok now what does it say under output
[01:31] <s_spiff> back on ubuntu after a long long time..
[01:31] <johnnybezak> brenner: were you talking to me?
[01:31] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: esd: enlightenmend sound daemon
[01:31] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: hit the test button
[01:32] <heyjoe2> for pipeline
[01:32] <johnnybezak> s_spiff: welcome back
[01:32] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: it seems to be doing nothing
[01:32] <edan> fatal exception : SDL_SetVideoMode : Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[01:32] <edan>  what 2 do???
[01:32] <brenner> danboid: try editing /etc/default/acpi-support and checking the LOCK_SCREEN option
[01:32] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: ok switch it to OSS
[01:32] <brenner> johnnybezak: no.
[01:32] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'
[01:33] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: ok try ALSA
[01:33] <babo> Hi, I have to run and compile the nvidia installer now every time my computer boots up ... when I try to add the module to the kernel insmod and modprobe give me different errors - namely insmod tells me that the nvidia.ko file is already there, modprobe tells me that it's a fatal file that doesn't exist ????????  Help anyone ?
[01:33] <babo>   Also I'm having problems with the skype hijacker ... namely that there isn't one for 64bit ubuntu and that when I try to compile one myself with -m32 ... I get various linker errors
[01:33] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: same again
[01:33] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: anything else there?
[01:33] <KakiPukul> -m32 switch makes it a 32bit app, and requires libs32
[01:33] <heyjoe2> custom
[01:34] <johnnybezak> try that
[01:34] <transgress> hey is there an op in here that has ops in ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:34] <edan> can enyone help me with glx?
[01:34] <heyjoe2> johnnybezak: that does a test but nothing happens
[01:34] <transgress> edan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[01:34] <edan> tnx
[01:35] <johnnybezak> heyjoe2: ok it would seem as if your sound has become stuffed somehow. have you tried turning your comp off and then on again (yes, we're getting to that point :))
[01:35] <transgress> any ops that can deal with a troll in ubuntu-offtopic would be my best friend...
[01:35] <heyjoe2> ok ill give it a crack.
[01:35] <heyjoe2> bbs
[01:35] <brenner> transgress: you can always tell the freenode people
[01:35] <Hobbsee> transgress: call !ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <johnnybezak> transgress: is it me2win?
[01:36] <transgress> johnnybezak: yes
[01:36] <danboid> brenner: thanks, I've done that, gonna try it now!
[01:36] <transgress> he's in there calling us idiots because we use gnome... in an ubuntu channel... it's getting rather old...
[01:36] <linuxboyfriend> !java
[01:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> My system does cronjobs, notably updatedb and apt-get update it seems, at 7:35AM - how random of a time is that?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> transgress: bingo :D
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> What's this message mean?: syslogd: /dev/xconsole: No such file or directory
[01:38] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, wherre didyou get that?
[01:38] <_JuDgEn_> how do i enable 2d acceleration when using fglrx
[01:39] <transgress> _JuDgEn_: 2d or 3d?
[01:39] <_JuDgEn_> preferably without disabling the 3d support
[01:39] <johnnybezak> i've gotta go and pick up my gf, if heyjoe2 comes back tell him to post to the forums or linuxquestions or somewhere, thanks.
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: It came up at the bottom of my irssi in screen while some cronjobs were running.
[01:39] <_JuDgEn_> transgress 2d support
[01:39] <johnnybezak> nick bezak|zzzZZZzzz
[01:39] <_JuDgEn_> i only got 3d atm
[01:39] <bezak|zzzZZZzzz> sry
[01:39] <transgress> _JuDgEn_: umm i think that should be enabled by default if you have 3d... suppose i could be wrong... but umm...
[01:39] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, something that was trying to run printed that to console and it popped up on yoru screne.  Maybe check the syslog to figure it out.
[01:40] <_JuDgEn_> transgress this is what i found googling http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx#Speed
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: Which file would that be?
[01:40] <heyjoe2> would u believe it: its working?
[01:40] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, /var/log/syslog
[01:40] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:40] <heyjoe2> sounds going down a treat
[01:40] <heyjoe2> ali: thanks for all ure help
[01:41] <Jan> I would like to setup an user on edubuntu whose home is replaced by a clean copy during every login. Where is the right place for such a script ?
[01:41] <transgress> _JuDgEn_: that's just talking about the difference between the ati driver and fglrx...
[01:41] <Fracture> Jan, one possible place is to hook into the PAM system
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: I've got nothing there.
[01:42] <Fracture> Jan, I dunno how you go about running generic scripts triggered by PAM events, but you can do auto mounts like that
[01:42] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, tail /var/log/syslog
[01:42] <_JuDgEn_> transgress no it says that 2d overlay is disabled by deafult
[01:43] <chuckyp> Jan, /usr/local/bin should be in everyones path
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: Nothing about xconsole
[01:43] <rapha> How can my buddy get on my Samba share? I made one for him with System > System Administration > Shared Folders but he gets a password prompt and we both don't know what to enter?
[01:43] <_JuDgEn_> transgress my xorg.conf was lacking     Option "VideoOverlay"               "on"
[01:43] <chuckyp> Jan, or you want call the script on logon? hrmm....
[01:43] <_JuDgEn_> apperantly
[01:43] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, hmmm... I dunno.  Are you still getting the error?
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: It went away, it was only there briefly.
[01:44] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, dunno who knows.
[01:44] <Jan> Fracture, and what about a low tech solution based on gdm calling a script before accessing home ?
[01:44] <jubei> guys any good torrent command line clients for ubuntu?
[01:44] <blacking> anyone with experience how install ubuntuntu on usb drive??
[01:44] <chuckyp> Jan, you could do that but their are session files in home directories etc..
[01:44] <transgress> jubei: it comes with one.  command is btdownloadcurses
[01:45] <_JuDgEn_> jubei transmission rox
[01:45] <kp_> jubei i use btdownloadheadless.py
[01:45] <jubei> lol, so which one then?:)
[01:45] <Fracture> Jan that works as long as you only want it triggered by GDM logins, what if they login via SSH ?
[01:45] <chuckyp> Jan, I guess you could call like a "rm rf ~/*" on login would work.
[01:45] <kp_> Try all three, see which one you like,
[01:45] <chuckyp> Jan, that would work on gdm login only though.
[01:45] <jubei> kk, thanks.
[01:45] <transgress> what is transmission?
[01:45] <KakiPukul> isn't gnome-bittorrent is cool?
[01:46] <transgress> i don't really like gnome-bittorrent
[01:46] <Jan> Fracture, SSH not needed, it's for kids to play safely
[01:46] <kp_> Me neither
[01:46] <Fracture> ok
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: What was that for?
[01:46] <KakiPukul> you guys really enjoy pain huh?
[01:46] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, what was what for?
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: The rm.
[01:46] <_JuDgEn_> transgress a bittorrent client that works on almost all major plattform, including linux, windows, osx, bsd and beos
[01:47] <transgress> _JuDgEn_: link?
[01:47] <transgress> nm
[01:47] <Fracture> Jan in that case, don't you just add a script via System > Administration > Sessions > Startup Programs with order=0, that does the work ?
[01:47] <transgress> but that looks like a blatant rip off of the official bt client...
[01:47] <_JuDgEn_> transgress only found the osx and beos page atm http://transmission.m0k.org/
[01:47] <_JuDgEn_> but its a fast compile
[01:48] <Jan> Fracture, good idea. Yes, thx
[01:48] <KakiPukul> bittorrent requires no compilation, technically, it's a Python program...
[01:48] <_JuDgEn_> oh that page also had the fedora4 build
[01:48] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, that was to remove all files in users home on login to gdm
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: They actually wanted to do that?
[01:48] <transgress> anyways i'm off to bed...
[01:48] <chuckyp> yeah
[01:48] <_JuDgEn_> http://transmission.m0k.org/screenshots.php
[01:48] <Fracture> Jan, one thing to check is where that program saves the config to.. if it saves it in the user's home, then you have to watch that you don't blow it away
[01:48] <transgress> _JuDgEn_: see the official bt client screenshots...
[01:49] <ansh> asdas
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: Ah, all right.  A little odd.
[01:49] <chuckyp> Fracture, thats why I was using the * so it wouldn't get ride of files starting with "."
[01:49] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, oh yeah.
[01:49] <_JuDgEn_> got to go and eat, brb
[01:49] <Fracture> Jan, but you probably want the.* folders/files to be removed too, since they contan config files that the user can still change
[01:50] <Fracture> Jan, someone here may know where that file resides.
[01:51] <z3r0x> does anybody know how to transfer files to my mobilephone? (sony ericsson p910i)... it's attached to /dev/ttyUSB0
[01:53] <KakiPukul> z3r0x, you may need a 3rd party program, but if you use Bluetooth connection, just use the Gnome Bluetooth File Sharing
[01:53] <drc-> evening
[01:53] <chuckyp> z3r0x, mount /dev/ttyUSB0 /path/to/folder of course you'll have to figure out what file system to mount it as and then if you are able to write to it.
[01:53] <KakiPukul> or, you can try to mount it...
[01:53] <mgedmin> I do not think you can mount serial devices
[01:53] <KakiPukul> it's a tty
[01:53] <mgedmin> in fact, I'm certain you can't
[01:53] <rapha> Ah we found out. NM.
[01:53] <z3r0x> KakiPukul, I don't use Bluetooth...
[01:53] <drc-> i have a bit of a problem with my install-cd, as it seems to be unreadable at points, the install starts, but cant load the required .deb's from the cd, so can i load them from my HD somehow?
[01:53] <rapha> Bye
[01:54] <Fracture> Jan : its in ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[01:54] <chuckyp> drc-, try burning the iso at a slower speed.
[01:55] <KakiPukul> "z3r0x, you may need a 3rd party program", I don;t really understand how you interpret :)
[01:55] <drc-> chuckyp: well, i cant burn anything atm
[01:55] <mgedmin> z3r0x: obexftp might work (I've never tried it myself)
[01:55] <chuckyp> drc-, do you have net access on the box?
[01:56] <katrus> Yay, just installed
[01:56] <z3r0x> ok I'll try it
[01:56] <drc-> chuckyp: but as the cd boots fine, and i have the iso on my hdd, can i somehow load them from the hd, like in debian ?
[01:56] <drc-> chuckyp: i have net access
[01:56] <Jan> Fracture, there is no session-manual in my .gnome2 directory ...
[01:57] <Fracture> Jan, it will get created when you use that Session profrences program
[01:57] <chuckyp> drc-, yeah there is a way to load debs from dh hold up.
[01:57] <Fracture> Jan, just create a script in /usr/local/bin/reset-home that removed everything from ~ except that file then configire it to be called
[01:57] <heyjoe2> im a bit paranoid about security, even on this wonderful distro, and i was wondering if there was anything i could do to safeguard my computer against nasties
[01:58] <katrus> What do I have to do to get access to my NTFS drives? I can get to them through System/Administration/Disks, but not the file browser.
[01:58] <linuxboyfriend> !skype
[01:58] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:58] <sohmc> I'm getting an error saying my C++ cannot create executibles.  but I have builttools installed.  is there something I need to enable to make it so I can compile programs?
[01:58] <mgedmin> sohmc: do you have build-essential installed?
[01:58] <Seveas> !tell sohmc about compiling
[01:59] <Jan> Fracture, does gdm call the Xsession file in /etc/X11/gdm on every login ?
[01:59] <sohmc> mgedmin:: yes I do
[01:59] <Sp4rKy> what's the better method to save (dynamic) data every days
[01:59] <KakiPukul> sohmc, what compiler taht you invoke again?
[02:00] <sohmc> c++
[02:00] <KakiPukul> oh
[02:00] <KakiPukul> use gcc instead sohmc :)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> sohmc: use g++ blah.cpp -o blah
[02:00] <KakiPukul> gcc compiles C and C++ codes
[02:00] <heyjoe2> im a bit paranoid about security, even on this wonderful distro, and i was wondering if there was anything i could do to safeguard my computer against nasties
[02:00] <chuckyp> drc-, you could just use dpkg but I thought I remember a way of doing just what you need on the wiki
[02:00] <Fracture> Jan, I dunno.. you can test it.. get it to append to a file in /tmp :)  i.e. echo `date` >> /tmp/test
[02:00] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: well, configure is failing because it can't compile an executible
[02:00] <Fracture> Jan,then login/ logout a few times ;)
[02:00] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, unplug the network connection.
[02:01] <mgedmin> sohmc: paste the contents of config.log to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:01] <Lorvija> where was the list for supported pcmcia wlan cards? cant remember the url..
[02:01] <heyjoe2> chuckyp: anything other than facetiousness
[02:01] <Jan> Fracture, yes I will have to experiment a little
[02:01] <KakiPukul> or maybe you don't have permission to create exec?
[02:01] <Sp4rKy> rsync ?
[02:01] <IdleOne> !tell Lorvija about wireless
[02:02] <Lorvija> IdleOne thanks
[02:02] <IdleOne> no problem
[02:02] <heyjoe2> any antivirus software worth using or firewalls or something?
[02:02] <sohmc> mgedmin:: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/588786
[02:02] <chuckyp> Sp4rKy, what about it?
[02:02] <drc-> chuckyp: if i could somehow umount the cdrom and mount the iso to the same mountpoint, that would do the trick, but how to umount the cdrom while its in use?
[02:02] <mgedmin> whoa, internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[02:02] <Fracture> Jan, i've been using linux for a few years on the server, but have only moved my desktop from XP to ubuntu 1 week ago.. so i'm still learning ;)
[02:02] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, yeah search for antivirus ubuntu and there are a ton of ways of doing firewalls.
[02:02] <KakiPukul> maybe it's the code...
[02:02] <drc-> chuckyp: or just tell ubuntu-installer to use a different mountpoint than /cdrom
[02:03] <KakiPukul> try to compile other C/C++ code...
[02:03] <mgedmin> sohmc: that's either a GCC bug, or faulty hardware (http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/)
[02:03] <heyjoe2> any info on firewalls about, for a ubuntu beginner. and i mean beginner
[02:03] <sohmc> drc-:: why don't you pull the image off the cd and then run the image from the hard drive
[02:03] <KakiPukul> or.... the gcc you are using isn't compatible with that code?
[02:03] <drc-> sohmc: how would i do that?
[02:03] <chuckyp> drc-, well during the installer you can still ctrl+alt+f# to a different terminal allthough its limited.
[02:03] <wevex> whats the shell script equivalence to c's VAR++ ? (or VAR==VAR+1) ?
[02:03] <KakiPukul> e.g. wrong version of gcc?
[02:04] <drc-> chuckyp: yeah, i know, but what i dont know is howto umount a cdrmo thats in use
[02:04] <chuckyp> sohmc, he already has the image on the hd.
[02:04] <Seveas> wevex, VAR=$(($VAR + 1))
[02:04] <heyjoe2> chuckyp: any info on firewalls about, for a ubuntu beginner. and i mean beginner
[02:04] <sohmc> chuckyp:: ah okay
[02:04] <Jan> Fracture: The same with me. In fact I am looking for a feature equivalent to "mandatory user profile"
[02:04] <wevex> thanks Severus
[02:04] <drc-> chuckyp: actually i have the image in about 36min :)
[02:04] <chuckyp> heyjoe2, iptables
[02:04] <linuxboyfriend> ubotu tell linuxboyfriend flash
[02:04] <cwillu_> heyjoe2;  note that a typical desktop doesn't really need one
[02:04] <linuxboyfriend> hmm
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell heyjoe2 about firewall
[02:04] <drc-> sohmc: but either way, how would i run it off the hdd?
[02:04] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: what do you mean?
[02:04] <cwillu_> linux desktop that is
[02:04] <chuckyp> drc-, I'm not quite sure how you would invoke the setup from an iso on the hd.
[02:04] <sohmc> drc-:: it depends on what you're trying to do.
[02:04] <dooglus> wevex:((VAR=VAR+1))
[02:04] <Fracture> Jan, never used that in windows either ;)
[02:05] <heyjoe2> cwillu_: i just dont want to be the first idiot to contract a virus on linux
[02:05] <drc-> sohmc: well, im trying to install ubuntu, boot from cd -> get files (.deb's) from hdd -> ...
[02:05] <chuckyp> Fracture, never used what?
[02:05] <cwillu_> not gonna happen :)
[02:05] <dooglus> wevex: or ((x+=1))
[02:05] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: I'm not getting a signal 11
[02:05] <IdleOne> heyjoe2>  chances are you wont
[02:05] <Fracture> chuckyp: "mandatory user profile"
[02:05] <kbg_20> Hello everyone!! I have problems getting my X Server working...keep getting this error "Fatal:No screen found"...Can soemone help me out please?
[02:06] <syf> btw.. i installed the drivers for my nvidia card from the nvidia site... and editted the xorg config file, now when i try to start my gdm it will say that the x server isn't working, has been disabled, etc. but X still starts up, what gives? :S
[02:06] <dooglus> wevex: or ((VAR++))
[02:06] <sohmc> drc-:: and you can't install off the CD?
[02:06] <cwillu_> there simply aren't any services accessible to the internet (listening to your network card) installed by default
[02:06] <drc-> sohmc: no, cuz its broken
[02:06] <drc-> sohmc: thats the main problem :)
[02:06] <chuckyp> Fracture, what if she created users that had read only access to the system.
[02:06] <sohmc> drc-:: hmmm...have you tried some of the non-conventional ways to install ubuntu?
[02:07] <Fracture> chuckyp: I thought of that too, but couldn't that effect the running of the account ?
[02:07] <Jan> Fracture, very useful feature for a school. You can allow kids to do what they want. And after logout everything gets sane again
[02:07] <cwillu_> terminal server stuff might be useful
[02:07] <chuckyp> kbg_20, what video card to you have?
[02:07] <drc-> sohmc: not yet, im still asking on the best course of action.. i have installed debian in a non conventional way a few times, but never ubuntu
[02:07] <wevex> are there any c compilator in ubuntu?
[02:07] <chuckyp> Fracture, i'm sure there is a way to do what she wants.
[02:07] <cwillu_> !cpp
[02:07] <sohmc> drc-:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation#head-ea0039061a9c639249330e80e8369cfe32d99805
[02:07] <Fracture> chuckyp: probably
[02:07] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cwillu_
[02:07] <drc-> sohmc: do u know where the source-files dir is defined?
[02:07] <sohmc> drc-:: no, sorry
[02:07] <chuckyp> Fracture, I should say a proper way to do it.
[02:08] <sohmc> how do I fix the problem of now being able to build executibles
[02:08] <sohmc> ?
[02:08] <kbg_20> chuckyp: i have a gigabyte motherboard with built in graphics card
[02:08] <drc-> damn, that page doesnt exist
[02:08] <chuckyp> sohmc, apt-get install build-essential
[02:08] <wevex> is there any C compiler in ubuntu? or do i have to find someone?
[02:08] <sohmc> chuckyp:: thanks...build-essential is already installed
[02:08] <cwillu_> wevex, what chuckyp said
[02:08] <kbg_20> wevex: install gcc from synaptic..
[02:08] <chuckyp> sohmc, okay well whats the problem then?
[02:09] <cwillu_> wevex, build-essential from synaptic
[02:09] <chuckyp> sohmc, what are you trying to build and what error are you getting?
[02:09] <wevex> i dont really get it? im i real noob at linux =P
[02:09] <jc2> Quick question about install. Currently reinstalling ubuntu breezy 5.10 expert mode. Where does it generate an install.log file of some sort?
[02:09] <cwillu_> what do you want the compiler for?
[02:09] <sohmc> chuckyp:: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/588786
[02:09] <IdleOne> wevex>  in terminal type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:09] <chuckyp> wevex, okay well open a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:10] <sohmc> chuckyp:: I'm trying to build firefox from source because it keeps crashing
[02:10] <KakiPukul> free C compiler is the first thing that Richard Stallman created when starting GNU and FSF :)
[02:10] <wevex> chuckyp: thanks mate
[02:10] <IdleOne> !tell somh about ff1.5
[02:10] <IdleOne> !tell sohmc  about ff1.5
[02:11] <chuckyp> sohmc, hrm... and what are you running to get that just ./configure?
[02:11] <sohmc> IdleOne:: thanks...I've already read this wiki and it hasn't solved my problem...I'm getting segmetation faults
[02:11] <KakiPukul> and why the hell 64bit gnu/linux doesn't install WOW-like environment by default?
[02:11] <sohmc> chuckyp:: yeah
[02:12] <curley_sue> #conky
[02:12] <Rawplayer> curley_sue: #DIE
[02:12] <chuckyp> sohmc, dunno should just work if you installed gcc etc.. or build-essential.  Maybe try installing firefox 1.5 or reinstalling firefox via. apt.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Rawplayer: what does that mean?
[02:12] <kbg_20> chuckyp: can you help me out? the X server problem..:(
[02:12] <sohmc> hmmm...running apt-get build-dep mozilla-firefox did the trick
[02:12] <sj_> hi, i'm trying to install azureus from the instructions on the wiki found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo?highlight=%28azureus%29 but the link given for the azureus deb package is a 404, can anyone help me?
[02:12] <Rawplayer> gnomefreak: ;p
[02:12] <chuckyp> kbg_20, what video card do you have?
[02:13] <Fracture> Jan, chuckyp : from what I have just read, there used to be a PostSession hook in GDM up until Gnome 2.4, now, it appears that PAM should be used.
[02:13] <KakiPukul> sohmc, what's the program name, should ask this in the first place?
[02:13] <sohmc> chuckyp:: thanks for looking into it
[02:13] <kbg_20> chuckyp: i have a gigabyte motherboard with built in graphics card
[02:13] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: firefox
[02:13] <henna> :win 4
[02:13] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: I fixed the problem
[02:13] <sohmc> :-D
[02:13] <KakiPukul> bleh~
[02:13] <KakiPukul> I did just fine with the latest source :)
[02:13] <sohmc> I've never build firefox via source
[02:14] <KakiPukul> now have the package to be installed on /opt...
[02:14] <KakiPukul> damn ubunty's slow
[02:14] <passantino> hallo
[02:14] <chuckyp> kbg_20, what does "lspci | grep VGA" yield in terminal?
[02:14] <sohmc> AHH!!! Now I got a signal 11...
[02:15] <imagemaker> i wonder if anyone can help... I have allocated too much space to partition dev/hda5 and swap, and wish to resize to increase the size of my home partition... can this be done easily?
[02:15] <KakiPukul> sohmc, tried the 32bit version before?
[02:15] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: 32bit version of firefox?  no I haven't...
[02:16] <chuckyp> kbg_20, what does "lspci | grep VGA" yield in terminal?
[02:16] <KakiPukul> I have both 32 bit and self-package 64bit
[02:16] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: unless I'm running it and dont' know it...where can I get it?
[02:16] <KakiPukul> of course I prefer the 32bit
[02:16] <KakiPukul> !ff1.5
[02:16] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:16] <KakiPukul> there...
[02:16] <wevex> chuckyp, how do i runn build-ess.. ?
[02:16] <Frogzoo> imagemaker: does home abut hda5?
[02:17] <Jan> Fracture, you mean writing a script into /etc/pam.d/
[02:17] <LuisBG> I need xorg-driver-fglrx-dev but it has dependencies problems... what can I do?
[02:17] <Fracture> Jan, they aren't normal scripts in there.. let me look for a minute
[02:17] <chuckyp> wevex, you don't necessarily run it.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[02:17] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: is that the 32-bit version?
[02:17] <KakiPukul> followed the wiki faithfully and you'll have the force with you, my son sohmc :)
[02:17] <Fracture> Jan pam uses modules, which get triggered by pam events.  i'll see if there is a pam module to execute a script
[02:17] <KakiPukul> yes the 32bit install
[02:17] <jc2> [08:07]  jc2: Quick question about install. Currently reinstalling ubuntu breezy 5.10 expert mode. Where does it generate an install.log file of some sort?
[02:17] <LuisBG> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev: Depends on: xorg-driver-fglrx (= 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1) but 8.22.5-1 is going to be installed
[02:18] <wevex> chuckyp: do i write the program in for example pico and them compile it?
[02:18] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: thanks....I've followed the wiki faithfully with no change to my current situation
[02:18] <KakiPukul> haha
[02:18] <eth0> hi, im having a problem, whenever i try to login, i get'you'icetransnolisten: cannot find tcp'
[02:18] <kbg_20> chuckyp: the card is nvidia
[02:18] <eth0> er sorry typ0
[02:18] <drakonan> vim is nice wevex
[02:18] <KakiPukul> nevermind ... have you tried the other part of that Wiki,... "FirefoxAMD64FlashJava"
[02:18] <eth0> hi, im having a problem, whenever i try to login, i get - icetransnolisten: cannot find tcp'
[02:18] <eth0> and it logs me back out again
[02:18] <KakiPukul> and install Firefox 1.5 somewhere else
[02:19] <chuckyp> wevex, you can write a program in pretty much any editor.  Theres vi, nano , gedit, and severally others.  other people on here might be able to help you with a syntax checking editor etc... then you compile what you wrote.
[02:19] <yahya> does ubuntu have some equivalent of suse's /etc/sysconfig directory for configuring init scripts?
[02:19] <eth0> also a variety of other errors, but that's the top one
[02:19] <chuckyp> kbg_20, okay can you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin
[02:19] <chuckyp> !paste
[02:19] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:19] <KakiPukul> Firefox/1.5.0.1 >> there my FF version...
[02:19] <imagemaker> Frogzoo.. mmm don't know if this answers... my partitions are hda5 hda6 (swap) and hda7 (home) in succession [sorry its a bit new to me] ... it seems home and hda5 are separated by swap
[02:19] <kbg_20> chuckyp: ok one minute
[02:19] <Frogzoo> for serious code dev't, tags are pretty essential - both emacs & vi support tags
[02:20] <wevex> chuckyp: hm.. sounds really stupid? isnt there a program like DEV (for windows) that just check the syntax and compile it?
[02:20] <KakiPukul> there is
[02:20] <KakiPukul> tried "Ajunta" yet?
[02:20] <KakiPukul> that's for C/C++
[02:21] <Frogzoo> imagemaker: ok, yes this can be done easily if you know what you're doing - boot single mode - remove the swap partition (swapoff) & unmount home - run gparted to resize partitions & reboot
[02:21] <sohmc> KakiPukul:: that's what I'm trying to use...but keep getting a segmentation fault
[02:21] <wevex> KakiPukul: its for C
[02:21] <babo>  I'm having problems with the skype hijacker ... namely that there isn't one for 64bit ubuntu and that when I try to compile one myself with -m32 ... I get various linker errors
[02:21] <KakiPukul> yeah c/c++
[02:21] <wevex> KakiPukul, where you talking to me? =S
[02:22] <gnomefreak> anjuta is for just about everything
[02:22] <imagemaker> Frogzoo... Lordy... thank you, I shall write this down and do some research.. thank you :-)
[02:22] <dradul> yahya, debian-based  distros use /etc/default for sysinit configuration scripts, and several facilities keep their own private directories in /etc (as hapens with RedHat-based distros too).
[02:22] <KakiPukul> well, with the right plugin, even eclipse does well
[02:22] <gnomefreak> let me fix that its used with about 8 lang.
[02:22] <eth0> hi, im having problems logging in, whenever i log in it says theres an error - 'icetransnolisten: cannot find tcp' and a whole bunch of error messages relating to ICE, and then it just logs me back out
[02:23] <KakiPukul> wevex, are you trying to say that GNU/Linux is way backward, somehow?
[02:23] <Frogzoo> imagemaker: gl - just be careful you get it right & don't touch any other file systems
[02:24] <eth0> anyone?
[02:25] <dradul> eth0, drop to a console (say, alt-ctrl-f1) and log-in then do "sudo chown yourlogin:yourlogin .ICEauthority", hit "alt-f7" and try to login into the graphical session again.
[02:25] <KakiPukul> icewm huh..
[02:25] <imagemaker> Frogzoo... cheers m8, thank you... b4n :-)
[02:25] <LinuxIdiot> can someone show me how to access my fat32 partition under ubuntu?
[02:25] <eth0> dradul: ok, thanks ill try it
[02:25] <cdubya> !wpa
[02:25] <ubotu> hmm... wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:25] <kbg_20> chuckyp: http://pastebin.com/588815
[02:25] <instabin> i need to unmount my root partition to use resize3fs
[02:26] <instabin> how do i do this
[02:26] <Frogzoo> imachine: yw :)
[02:26] <sohmc> instabin:: in my experience, you cannot umount your root partition while you're in it!
[02:26] <KakiPukul> you can mount it manually 'sudo mount -t vfat <your windows partition device name> <directory you want to mount>'
[02:26] <instabin> so how do i do it?
[02:26] <KakiPukul> LinuxIdiot :)
[02:26] <instabin> sohmc
[02:26] <Fracture> Jan, this will do the trick http://www.bofs.co.za/~iburger/pam_script/index.html
[02:26] <Frogzoo> instabin: you can't - you need to do it by booting a live cd
[02:26] <instabin> ok
[02:26] <instabin> thanks
[02:27] <eth0> dradul: u didn't mean yourlogin:yourpasswd, no?
[02:27] <instabin> well wont the devices be different on a live cd
[02:27] <sohmc> instabin:: I'm not sure what resize3fs is...but I would think that in order to do any work on your root partition, you'll need to boot in rescue mode
[02:27] <jon_> LinuxIdiot, sudo mkdir /media/windows then type in sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[02:27] <instabin> what i did is added a drive to my lvm
[02:27] <dradul> eth0, no yourlogin;yourlogin. By default yourgroup=yourlogin
[02:27] <KakiPukul> <your windows partition device name> - this should look like '/dev/hda1' or something like that
[02:27] <instabin> and extend the device /dev/Ubuntu/root
[02:27] <Fracture> Jan, there may be a 'newer' way to do this.
[02:27] <Frogzoo> instabin: you can't resize / while / is mounted, but the device will still be /dev/hdax or whatever
[02:27] <jon_> errm hda1 = your windows partition? hopefully?
[02:27] <Jan> Fracture, thank you very much
[02:27] <instabin> now i have to exted the the file system
[02:28] <jon_> LinuxIdiot, If not, then find out which partition it's called.
[02:28] <LinuxIdiot> jon_: thnx ill give it a try
[02:28] <wevex> how dose the shript  you can still ctrl+alt+f# to a different terminal allthough its limited.
 whats the shell script e
[02:28] <wevex> ops sorry
[02:28] <kbg_20> u can use fdisk -l /dev/hda (or /dev/sda if SATA HDD) to find out what your windows partitions are..
[02:28] <instabin> Frogzoo but how do i unmount it
[02:28] <KakiPukul> LinuxIdiot, or you can checkout System- >Administration -> Disks (for all the information you need)
[02:28] <sohmc> instabin:: try running sudo mount
[02:28] <KakiPukul> don't listem to these CLI fans :)
[02:28] <sohmc> instabin:: and post your output
[02:28] <instabin> I did try that
[02:28] <sohmc> !paste
[02:28] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:28] <Frogzoo> instabin: oh - lvm might be able to manage that - check the docs or google
[02:28] <instabin> says the device is busy
[02:29] <LinuxIdiot> KakiPukul: does this allow me to access the partition?
[02:29] <KakiPukul> yes...
[02:29] <instabin> Frogzoo I did add a hd to the lvm group and extened it
[02:29] <LinuxIdiot> KakiPukul: 10x ;)
[02:29] <chuckyp> kbg_20, okay "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings linux-restricted-modules-386"   Thats if your using 386 arch then "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and restart x you should be good to go.
[02:29] <instabin> frogzoo  now i have to unmount the root partion to extened the file system
[02:29] <Frogzoo> instabin: I didn't realise resize3fs was lvm - thought it was just a gparted clone
[02:29] <kbg_20> chuckyp: thanks a lot for the help..will try that out :)
[02:30] <KakiPukul> in the "Partitions" tab, you will see the "Access Path" textbox, try to fill in the value with any dir you like the disk to mount
[02:30] <chuckyp> ahh here lol
[02:30] <instabin> resize2fs
[02:30] <chuckyp> !tell kbg_20 about nvidia
[02:30] <instabin> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[02:30] <KakiPukul> you can also disable/enable to access to that particular partition, LinuxIdiot
[02:31] <chuckyp> kbg_20, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" if you are using gnome will restart x
[02:31] <wevex> is there a script equivalence to the C's:   for (i=1;i<=n;i++) { } ?
[02:31] <eth0> dradul: thanks, what do u think might have caused that?
[02:31] <KakiPukul> however for advanced options, you may need to do that on the command line
[02:31] <instabin> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[02:31] <instabin> that is where im getting my instructions
[02:31] <KakiPukul> shell script... huh...
[02:32] <KakiPukul> MyISPsuX has quit (Connection timed out) >> I can see that :)
[02:32] <Frogzoo> instabin: didn't realise you were using lvm...
[02:32] <LinuxIdiot> anyone have a sagem f@st modem?
[02:33] <KakiPukul> oh, you want to do script, wevex ? try jedit yet, it does support shell script, you can run it on the IDE itself
[02:33] <NET||abuse> aahhhh, tiddly winks... my default user hasn't rights to the /var/www folder
[02:33] <dradul> eth0, that happens when you execute a graphical app as root from a console using sudo instead of gksudo (always use gksudo for graphical apps).
[02:33] <instabin> Frogzoo yes using lvm
[02:33] <KakiPukul> no, not me
[02:33] <instabin> all ready exted the logical volume now i have to unmount the root and extend the filesystme from what i understand
[02:33] <NET||abuse> how can i add myself to the appropriate group or do i have to change file permissions?
[02:33] <eth0> dradul: ah i c, thanks v much :)
[02:34] <Frogzoo> instabin: the thing is, I don't know if the live cd supports lvm...
[02:34] <instabin> lol
[02:34] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[02:34] <instabin> lvm seems like a great way to extned your partions
[02:35] <instabin> so far i didt it all just need to extned the filesystem
[02:35] <yahya> dradul: thanks
[02:35] <Frogzoo> instabin: well first try booting a live cd & see if that doesn't work
[02:35] <jon_> instabin, For my safe partitioning needs, i've always booted up a live CD and did qtparted ;)
[02:36] <instabin> jon_ its not partitioning
[02:36] <Frogzoo> jon_: does the live cd support LVM?
[02:36] <jon_> instabin, Ah ok, sorry didn't read it all the way through.
[02:36] <jon_> Frogzoo, I don't know.  Never tried the ubuntu live cd with any extent.
[02:36] <instabin> well ill be back and tell ya
[02:36] <instabin> going to reboot right now
[02:36] <instabin> the dvd does have the live cd right?
[02:37] <KakiPukul> yes...
[02:37] <vazik>    ??
[02:37] <vazik> :)
[02:37] <LuisBG> I changed the xorg driver to ati, how can I change it back to fglrx? tried the xorg-configure but seams I need to reinstall some stuff
[02:37] <KakiPukul> cyrillic?
[02:38] <Trinisan> Ques: i'll be using ubuntu as primarily a desktop on a amd64, should i go with 64bit or regular version
[02:38] <KakiPukul> vazik, are you russian?
[02:38] <vazik> Yes
[02:38] <KakiPukul> can you speak English? well...
[02:38] <vazik> i very bed speek english
[02:39] <KakiPukul> bad English is ok, but not speaking in English is not :)
[02:39] <btdown> !ru
[02:39] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:39] <btdown> I speak very bad russian.
[02:40] <KakiPukul> ubotu doesn;t have cyrillic font huh?
[02:40] <ubotu> KakiPukul: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:40] <vazik> but i undersand )
[02:40] <btdown> nyet. ;)
[02:40] <KakiPukul> hehe
[02:40] <KakiPukul> good vazik
[02:40] <Fracture> is there a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing as clicking the mouse wheel does (its own special paste function)
[02:40] <vazik> yep
[02:40] <vazik> )
[02:41] <KakiPukul> i can read russian but i can't understand the way the words being pronounce...
[02:41] <heyjoe2> how do u close a program using the command line?
[02:41] <KakiPukul> kill
[02:41] <KakiPukul> literally...
[02:41] <btdown> Russian is the shiznit.
[02:41] <Frogzoo> heyjoe2: usually ctrl c
[02:41] <heyjoe2> ok chers
[02:41] <KakiPukul> oh 'kill <the PID of the program running>'
[02:41] <heyjoe2> cheers even
[02:42] <KakiPukul> you  can checkout the PID using 'ps aux' or simply 'ps'
[02:43] <KakiPukul> for interpreters like python 'Ctrl+D' a.k.a EOF
[02:44] <Frogzoo> how to convert a .cue image to .iso?
[02:44] <jon_> KakiPukul, What about ctrl - z?
[02:45] <KakiPukul> yeah, the other EOF :)
[02:45] <heyjoe2> hi, amarok is being a bit buggy for me. im getting an error saying- Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:45] <heyjoe2> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'. any ideas on how to fix
[02:46] <Frogzoo> (apparently bchunk will convert .cue's to .iso's)
[02:47] <heyjoe2> another problem im experiencing is the graphic that has a picture of a girl with blue hair listening to an mp3 player stays on the screen.
[02:47] <KakiPukul> that's good for you, heyjoe2 haha
[02:49] <heyjoe2> kakipul: so helpful
[02:50] <heyjoe2> anyone less smarmy able to help me?
[02:51] <KakiPukul> I mean the girl, heyjoe2
[02:51] <LuisBG> how do I compile back the fglrx driver, after using ati's?
[02:51] <heyjoe2> kakipukul: apologies
[02:51] <LuisBG> in to the kernel I mean
[02:51] <ansinh> !tell ansinh about alsa
[02:52] <Frogzoo> LuisBG: why not just go for the fglrx pkg?
[02:52] <heyjoe2> kakipukul: i saw it com up in red
[02:52] <LuisBG> Frogzoo, sorry for the question but... how?
[02:52] <KakiPukul> guys how do you reinstall and setup grub using the isntall CD?
[02:52] <Frogzoo> !fglrx
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <kirth> need help for integrated audio...please
[02:53] <crimsun> kirth: be more precise, please
[02:53] <heyjoe2> does anyone else find amarok to be buggy. ive had it highly recommended all over the net? and no im not running a p2
[02:53] <kirth> i have a Asrock K8NF4G-sata2 and after installing official nvidia sound driver i don't hear sound
[02:53] <bigfoot1> how do i record a phone call i'll be making on my soft-phone (software phone)? I'm using X-Lite. And my headset is plugged in using a mic jack and earphone jack, (*not* via USB).
[02:54] <kirth> but volume indicator on the upper right corner is active and maxed
[02:54] <crimsun> kirth: you don't need the official nvidia sound driver. Ubuntu detects it just fine.
[02:54] <kirth> no, ubuntu don't detect it
[02:54] <imperfect-> Anyone here a ssh ninja?
[02:54] <ansinh> I've install alsa...but I still can't hear any sound
[02:54] <crimsun> kirth: no, I'm 99.9% certain it does
[02:54] <crimsun> ansinh: pastebin cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:54] <ansinh> actually, I've heard it once
[02:55] <Frogzoo> LuisBG: I highly recommend you add the seveas repo & get the latest fglrx pkg from there
[02:55] <kirth> crimsum: and i'm 0,1% certain that it doesn't...
[02:55] <ansinh> yes....wait 1 min
[02:55] <kirth> crimsum: i already tried many times
[02:55] <ansinh> 0 [M5461          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ULI M5461
[02:55] <ansinh>                      HDA ULI M5461 at 0xd7ef4000 irq 22
[02:55] <crimsun> kirth: you're only 0.1% certain? that's not too reassuring...
[02:55] <crimsun> kirth: in any case, pastebin lsmod and cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:56] <crimsun> ansinh: pastebin amixer
[02:56] <kirth> Module                  Size  Used by
[02:56] <kirth> rfcomm                 39856  0
[02:56] <kirth> l2cap                  25672  5 rfcomm
[02:56] <kirth> powernow_k8            10832  0
[02:56] <kirth> cpufreq_powersave       2240  0
[02:56] <kirth> cpufreq_stats           6088  0
[02:56] <kirth> cpufreq_userspace       5456  1
[02:56] <kirth> cpufreq_ondemand        7340  0
[02:56] <kirth> cpufreq_conservative     8364  0
[02:56] <kirth> freq_table              5320  2 powernow_k8,cpufreq_stats
[02:56] <crimsun> kirth: don't flood here
[02:56] <kirth> tc1100_wmi              8008  0
[02:56] <kirth> video                  17288  0
[02:56] <kirth> battery                10568  0
[02:56] <kirth> container               5120  0
[02:56] <Frogzoo> noooooo........
[02:56] <kirth> i2c_acpi_ec             6400  0
[02:56] <KakiPukul> wow
[02:56] <kirth> i2c_core               24152  1 i2c_acpi_ec
[02:56] <kirth> button                  7776  0
[02:56] <KakiPukul> no pasting here
[02:56] <kirth> pcc_acpi               13568  0
[02:57] <LinuxIdiot> hi room anyone know how to install grub from ubuntu cd and skip all the install???
[02:57] <kirth> sony_acpi               6104  0
[02:57] <Frogzoo> my eyes!!
[02:57] <kirth> ac                      5640  0
[02:57] <kirth> dev_acpi               14788  0
[02:57] <ansinh> Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
[02:57] <ansinh>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[02:57] <ansinh>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[02:57] <ansinh>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Left: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Right: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <kirth> hotkey                 10568  0
[02:57] <ansinh> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
[02:57] <kirth> ipv6                  266176  6
[02:57] <ansinh>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[02:57] <kirth> analog                 11616  0
[02:57] <ansinh>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[02:57] <kirth> gameport               16840  1 analog
[02:57] <ansinh>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Left: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Right: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <ansinh> Simple mixer control 'Front',0
[02:57] <ansinh>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[02:57] <ansinh>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[02:57] <crimsun> oh geez
[02:57] <ansinh>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[02:57] <Frogzoo> repeated pastings get people banned, just btw
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Left: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <ansinh>   Front Right: Playback 20 [65%]  [on] 
[02:57] <ansinh> Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
[02:57] <ansinh>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[02:57] <ansinh>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[02:57] <crimsun> you guys just don't _read_
[02:58] <crimsun> I asked specifically for pastebin to be used
[02:58] <crimsun> !+pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:58] <Frogzoo> please try to remember many people share this channel & exercise a little consideration ie please don't paste in channel - use pastebin
[02:58] <KakiPukul> damn!
[02:58] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[02:59] <gnomefreak> crimsun: can we change large text to any text? people have different understanding of large
[02:59] <gnomefreak> just a thought
[02:59] <LinuxIdiot> hi room anyone know how to install grub from ubuntu cd and skip all the install???
[02:59] <crimsun> you're free to adjust the factoid within reason
[02:59] <KakiPukul> yeah
[02:59] <KakiPukul> dude, help this guy on grub reinstall
[03:00] <KakiPukul> can't boot thing right now...
[03:00] <jocodel1> hola
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> !etheral
[03:00] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:00] <Frogzoo> !ethereal
[03:00] <ubotu> Frogzoo: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:00] <ansinh> sorry guy....i'm new to IRC too :(
[03:00] <Frogzoo> !info ethereal
[03:00] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[03:00] <ahoora> i will name my baby ubuntu :D
[03:00] <Zeusz> hello 2 all
[03:00] <ansinh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9812
[03:00] <LinuxIdiot> hi room anyone know how to install grub from ubuntu cd and skip all the install???
[03:00] <crimsun> ansinh: thank you
[03:00] <Zeusz> My friend Toni16 here has a problem
[03:00] <ansinh> here....my amixer
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i know what is it
[03:01] <Zeusz> his ubuntu won't start
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> wow!
[03:01] <KakiPukul> ethereal - -> Networking (universe)
[03:01] <Frogzoo> ahoora: I'm torn between qemu & amarok ;)
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> it's in package?
[03:01] <Zeusz> he keeps getting a message
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm i find out it
[03:01] <Zeusz> you session only lasted ehan 10 seconds.If you have note logged out yourself this couls mean that there some iansalation problem or thatyou may be out of diskspace.Try loging in with one of falsife session to see if you can fix this problem
[03:01] <Zeusz> what could cause this problem ?
[03:01] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I can add universe repositories to sources.list?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> !universe
[03:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:01] <crimsun> !tell imperfect- about repos
[03:01] <Zeusz> edit /etc/apt sources.list
[03:02] <LinuxIdiot> !sagem
[03:02] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LinuxIdiot
[03:02] <Zeusz> well ?
[03:02] <LuisBG> dpkg-reconfigured the xorg-xserver and changed ati to fglrx but still when I do fglrxinfo ati appears and not mesa :(
[03:02] <crimsun> ansinh: it's probable you need even newer drivers than the version provided by the instructions I had sent to you.
[03:02] <ansinh> :-O
[03:02] <KakiPukul> LinuxIdiot, what about the modem again?
[03:02] <ansinh> where can I find it?
[03:02] <crimsun> ansinh: try http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc3-1_all.deb
[03:02] <instabin> hey im back
[03:02] <instabin> just you let you guys know
[03:03] <crimsun> ansinh: then follow those directions again
[03:03] <instabin> it worked
[03:03] <KakiPukul> if it's a PCI modem,,, then you're dealing with 'winmodem'
[03:03] <ansinh> uhm.....thx you
[03:03] <LinuxIdiot> KakiPukul: its okay ive found the rigt driver
[03:03] <LinuxIdiot> right
[03:03] <ansinh> sorry....can u re-tell me the direction? :P
[03:03] <LinuxIdiot> i just wanted to try the wiki ;)
[03:03] <crimsun> ansinh: ask the bot about alsa-source
[03:03] <linuxboyfriend> i am playing a mp3 file in realplayer (online) can i save this file?
[03:03] <kp_> Damn ATI Drivers, im going to get myself Nvidia
[03:03] <kirth> crimsun: i pastebin lsmod
[03:03] <KakiPukul> they don't have brand specific wiki, LinuxIdiot
[03:03] <ansinh> uhm....where can I find the bot commands?
[03:03] <crimsun> kirth: url?
[03:03] <ansinh> !help
[03:04] <crimsun> ansinh: /msg ubotu alsa-source
[03:04] <instabin> Extend lvm  1. pvcreate /dev/hdb     2. vgextend Ubuntu /dev/hdb         3. resize2fs /dev/Ubuntu/root
[03:04] <kirth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9813
[03:04] <Fracture> anyonw know how to stop imwheel from interfering with openoffice zooming (CRTL-WheelUp) ?
[03:04] <LinuxIdiot> KakiPukul: anyway im still stcuk with the grub install
[03:04] <LinuxIdiot> stuck*
[03:04] <ansinh> many thanks, crimsun :D
[03:04] <Frogzoo> instabin: that's good news - congrats!
[03:05] <crimsun> kirth: don't use the official nvidia sound driver (nvsound).
[03:05] <crimsun> kirth: pastebin lspci -v
[03:06] <mattt_> anyone familiar with running unbuntu in vmware? (as a guest OS)
[03:06] <Frogzoo> mattt_: I believe this is totally straightforward, no?
[03:07] <kirth> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9814
[03:07] <sagi> I just installed the newst ubuntu, the installion was such a sweeet.. :P kinda bummerd i never had any console :P why is that there is no xterm or konsole on my menus? [gnome] 
[03:07] <KakiPukul> matt_, this is not really a VMware help channel,,,
[03:08] <crimsun> kirth: please execute: sudo update-pciids
[03:08] <KakiPukul> you should took a look at VMware's doc, forums...
[03:08] <say> anyone in dubai?
[03:08] <mattt_> Frogzoo: so one would think.. i installed ubuntu during which i was asked to select resolutions i *don't* want, yet those resolutions appear in the configuration, and one of them is also being used (so the vmware window doesn't fit my screen).. i can't select any other resolution because it renders the vmware "screen" unusable, and when i tru and use vmware-tools to set the resolution, ubuntu resets it
[03:08] <Frogzoo> sagi: accessories -> terminal
[03:08] <mattt_> KakiPukul: right, but i thought someone here might have some experience..
[03:08] <neoginn1> is daniel here?
[03:08] <pha> Can someone help me out with oidentd? The problem is still there. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/348/ Maybe you can look at this ;)
[03:08] <mattt_> also, i'm not totally sure it's a vmware problem.
[03:08] <KakiPukul> I am...
[03:08] <kirth> crimsun: done
[03:08] <KakiPukul> pvt me...
[03:08] <crimsun> neoginn1: who is "daniel"?
[03:08] <Syns> anyone use balsa email client?
[03:08] <neoginn1> saeveus
[03:09] <neoginn1> or maybe you can help me.
[03:09] <sagi> oh it's there :P i'm using the hebrew version and everything looked bizzare to me heh
[03:09] <crimsun> Seveas's client is present, yes. He's more than likely at the Community Council meeting.
[03:09] <KakiPukul> btw, not using VMware atm...
[03:09] <neoginn1> damn
[03:09] <Frogzoo> !tell mattt_ about xorg
[03:09] <crimsun> his name is Dennis, btw
[03:09] <neoginn1> ok here is my problem...
[03:09] <neoginn1> oh
[03:09] <neoginn1> haha
[03:09] <neoginn1> thanks
[03:09] <Frogzoo> mattt_: or you've tried that already?
[03:09] <crimsun> kirth: now pastebin lspci -v again
[03:09] <DigitalLF> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper?
[03:10] <LuisBG> I did dpkg-reconfigure for xorg-xserver and changed ati to fglrx but when I do fglxringo ati still appears instead of mesa, am I still running ati's driver or fglrx?
[03:10] <mattt_> no, had no idea about that.  why doesn't the resolution configuration tool work?
[03:10] <mattt_> and why did it use a resolution i specified not to during installation?
[03:10] <KakiPukul> the VMware? or the GNU/Linux X?
[03:10] <neoginn1> so i am trying to run a C++ program but kdevelop is not doing anything...it wont even run a simple "hello world program"
[03:10] <Frogzoo> mattt_: these are both good questions :)
[03:10] <KakiPukul> did you read about the screen setup on VMware's doc?
[03:11] <mattt_> ubuntu use bugzilla?
[03:11] <kirth> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9815
[03:11] <MetaMorfoziS> Frogzoo: i have added the repositories to my sources list, and i have other repostiories, but i haven't got eteheral in the packages list
[03:11] <KakiPukul> yes... most GNU/Linux does
[03:11] <Frogzoo> mattt_: I think the devs are well aware of the problem - try the dpkg-reconfigure & you should be good
[03:11] <tristanmike> mattt_, it used to, now it used Launchpad
[03:11] <neoginn1> any idea?
[03:11] <mattt_> Frogzoo: cool, thanks
[03:11] <Frogzoo> MetaMorfoziS: this is because it's spelt 'ethereal'
[03:11] <cub> irc://irc.1andallIRC.net/xboxland~boobies~bits
[03:11] <neoginn1> or what C++ compliler should i use?
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> !
[03:12] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:12] <crimsun> neoginn1: g++'s a start
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> thanx
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[03:12] <KakiPukul> neoginn1, first question, does it compile the code?
[03:12] <neoginn1> nope... it does not
[03:12] <KakiPukul> you nneed to setup KDev...
[03:12] <crimsun> kirth: sudo modprobe -r nvsound && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[03:13] <KakiPukul> there supposed to be setup before compiling things on the IDE...
[03:13] <crimsun> KakiPukul: referring to installing build-essential?
[03:13] <kirth> crimsun: FATAL: Module nvsound is in use.
[03:13] <KakiPukul> no...
[03:13] <crouchingMonkey> i cant watch any streaming videos, they buffer till 99% then stop
[03:13] <crimsun> kirth: pastebin lsof /dev/dsp*
[03:13] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[03:13] <KakiPukul> he installed the compiler... but haven't setup KDEv yet...
[03:13] <titov> hello...is there anyone in here running ubuntu for ppc or is there another room for it?
[03:13] <neoginn1> crimsun where can i get G++?
[03:13] <erratic> I can't mount partitions for some reason
[03:13] <crimsun> titov: no other room
[03:14] <erratic> mount says they're mounted but they're not..
[03:14] <crimsun> neoginn1: use Synaptic to install the 'build-essential' metapackage
[03:14] <kirth> crimsun: lsof or ls?
[03:14] <crimsun> kirth: lsof
[03:14] <titov> ok, in that case, is there anyone here using ubuntu on ppc?
[03:14] <erratic> naw
[03:14] <erratic> but for whatever reason
[03:14] <kirth> crimsun: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() reiserfs file system /dev/.static/dev
[03:14] <kirth>       Output information may be incomplete.
[03:14] <erratic> I can't mount this partition
[03:14] <tristanmike> titov, it's best to just ask the question
[03:15] <KakiPukul> Mac, titov
[03:15] <neoginn1> ok BRB i am gonna try it
[03:15] <crimsun> kirth: pastebin, remember?
[03:15] <KakiPukul> hum... most of use from x86 land
[03:15] <kirth> crimsun: sorry
[03:15] <erratic> please help
[03:15] <DrCurl> hello, I wanted to know if someone could get xgl to work with dapper and i810 card?
[03:15] <crimsun> erratic: what's the issue?
[03:15] <titov> well...i am trying to get my wireless Airport Extreme from my pbook g4 working...wondering what it takes to get that going since it is not part of the 2.6.12 kernel
[03:16] <crimsun> DrCurl: it works tolerably on dapper with i810
[03:16] <erratic> I can't mount a partition from command in ubuntu
[03:16] <gnomefreak> DrCurl: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:16] <erratic> mount says it's already mounted
[03:16] <erratic> but
[03:16] <DrCurl> ok, sorry
[03:16] <erratic> that when I try to mount it
[03:16] <Frogzoo> erratic: -> fuser -c /mnt_pnt
[03:16] <KakiPukul> erratic, type 'mount'
[03:16] <kirth> crimsun: i can't make lsof as you can see
[03:16] <KakiPukul> let's see what have been mounted
[03:16] <crimsun> kirth: url?
[03:16] <sveri> hi, i want to mount windows shares from my server with: sudo mount //192.168.15.2/daten /home/sveri/0daten/ -t smbfs -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000,username=sveri, this works so far, but special characters are shown as undescribeable characters, but when i access the share with smb://192.168.15.2/daten directly from konqueror everything works well
[03:16] <KakiPukul> kirth, reiserfs huh?
[03:16] <erratic> nothing is using it
[03:17] <kirth> crimsun: no url that's all
[03:17] <kirth> yes reiser FS
[03:17] <crimsun> kirth: so nothing's using it? Then remove the driver.
[03:17] <KakiPukul> well, the there is no static device....
[03:17] <kirth> crimsun: nvsound?
[03:17] <erratic> ....
[03:17] <erratic> you guys are worthless
[03:18] <KakiPukul> yeah...
[03:18] <crimsun> kirth: no, uninstall the driver. I don't mean just unload it.
[03:18] <Ng> ask for a refund
[03:18] <TuxAtWork> hi, how can I change the firewall config?
[03:18] <neoginn1> please help me i go to synaptic and i get this error: Unable to get exclusive lock, This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[03:18] <TuxAtWork> I need to open a port, where do I set it?
[03:18] <crimsun> Ng: I want the three seconds back in which I actually considered answering his question.
[03:18] <pha> Can someone help me out with oidentd? The problem is still there. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/348/ Maybe you can look at this ;)
[03:18] <Frogzoo> erratic steps slowly away from the internet...
[03:18] <KakiPukul> do you even understand the things written on ubuntu's license?
[03:18] <Ng> crimsun: I was about to, but he quit, so his loss
[03:18] <LinuxJones> Morning everybody !!
[03:18] <tristanmike> neoginn1, you must have another instance of Synaptic open, or the updaters or be installing using apt-get..any of those?
[03:19] <KakiPukul> no warranty for ubuntu's sake
[03:19] <neoginn1> to be honest tristan i do not know.
[03:19] <DarkAdmiral> i've just installed initNG and it works fine
[03:19] <tristanmike> neoginn1, take a look :)
[03:19] <neoginn1> where is that info available tristan?
[03:19] <kirth> crimsun: sorry it's really late i must go to work...thanks for all
[03:19] <DarkAdmiral> but i need the daemon which does "ifup eth0"
[03:19] <kp_> Where is sladen these days
[03:20] <tristanmike> neoginn1, you don't see anything in your panels? like the updates window?
[03:20] <neoginn1> oh hahaha thanks tristan
[03:20] <neoginn1> my other desktop had something running
[03:20] <crimsun> pha: if it's passing through a residential "router" prior to hitting your oidentd, then that's probably the culprit
[03:20] <tristanmike> neoginn1, yup, yup :)
[03:20] <neoginn1> thanks again tristan
[03:21] <crimsun> cribbon: sorry
[03:21] <crimsun> silly nick complete :/
[03:21] <linuxN00B> Ng: hi
[03:21] <cribbon> uhm, no problem cribbon =)
[03:21] <s-wx> Where can I go to remove all known hosts ? (RSA key)
[03:22] <wezzer> hello
[03:22] <Sp4rKy> does exist .deb for e17 ?
[03:22] <crouchingMonkey> can someone help me with my streaming video problem ?
[03:22] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: yes, search for ebuntu. I do NOT recommend using those packages, though.
[03:22] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, what's the problem?
[03:23] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, the buffer stops at 99% and the video will not play
[03:23] <gnomefreak> crouchingMonkey: can you state the issue you are having with what app?
[03:23] <linuxN00B> does anyone have an idea about what could cause a system to run slower all of the sudden?
[03:23] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, oh, using the mplayer plugin? in firefox?
[03:23] <crouchingMonkey> gnomefreak, i have the right codecs installed and mplayer
[03:23] <elkbuntu> linuxN00B, open a terminal and type 'top'
[03:23] <elkbuntu> tell us what the top entries are
[03:23] <crouchingMonkey> yes tristanmike
[03:23] <LinuxJones> linuxN00B: did you install any new programs or services ?
[03:23] <KakiPukul> things heating up, like some program taking all the memory
[03:23] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, and I'm assuming it's all streaming video?
[03:23] <linuxN00B> no
[03:24] <snowblink> linuxN00B, top -i
[03:24] <crouchingMonkey> yes tristanmike
[03:24] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, test here, http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
[03:24] <linuxN00B> what does that do?
[03:24] <allanh128> Hello,  We just installed Breezy Badger, We log in and try to access anything that requires a password, ie sudo,  it takes the password but noting actually launches.  Any ideas?
[03:24] <sagi> where can i get more ubuntu apt sources?
[03:25] <TuxAtWork> hi, how can I change the firewall config?
[03:25] <TuxAtWork> I need to open a port, where do I set it?
[03:25] <wonder> hi, did somebody manage to install xmame or even better gxmame on a recent ubuntu?
[03:25] <whyami> what functionality do I loose if I boot with noapic?
[03:25] <wonder> the gxmame pagage won't install and compiling from sources seems to be impossible for me
[03:25] <tristanmike> !tell sagi about sources.list
[03:25] <kp_> sagi:  is there a specific piece of software you want?
[03:25] <sagi> licq heh.. :P
[03:25] <linuxN00B> snowblink, What does that do?
[03:26] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, they all seem to be working fine
[03:26] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, hmmm, can I have the link?
[03:26] <neoginn1> Ok i just went to the synaptic package manager to install G++, but i cant see where it is on my desktop or in my applications.
[03:26] <Sp4rKy> i would to create a .deb from e17 sources , are you interseted ?
[03:26] <whyami> TuxAtWork: did you install a firewall? By default there is none in ubuntu...
[03:27] <snowblink> linuxN00B, it will show you want is currently sucking up your system resources
[03:27] <ateves> hi there. is someone using usb mp3 players with ubuntu? because i cannot copy files to it. it takes 2 seconds, the copied folder is listed in nautilus, but the player stays busy for hours without receiving any data
[03:27] <TuxAtWork> no whyami, i assumed there would be one installed
[03:27] <ateves> and the harddisk is busy, too
[03:27] <cwillu_> TuxAtWork;  by default ubuntu doesn't run any services that need one
[03:27] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: someone already did (albeit of questionable packaging consistency)
[03:27] <whyami> TuxAtWork: nope. So just assume the port you want is already open.
[03:27] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any softvare to use dual monitors, and tv output?
[03:27] <cwillu_> There are network services running, but they're only listening on the loopback adapter
[03:27] <TuxAtWork> the thing is that I installed ejabberd, and no one can connect to my server
[03:28] <kp_> neoginn1: Go to a terminal and type sudo synaptic
[03:28] <whyami> MetaMorfoziS: it's all in the driver config.
[03:28] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, http://poststuff.entensity.net/022706/media.php?media=ejection.wmv
[03:28] <TuxAtWork> I thought it could be a firewall thing
[03:28] <MetaMorfoziS> it's nvidia
[03:28] <MetaMorfoziS> and the driverconfiguration tool only usable for the antialiasing and other
[03:28] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, it's a problem with the site, not your plugins, I get the same problem....
[03:29] <whyami> TuxAtWork: I don't know what ejabberd is...but if you are trying to get on port 80 or some other popular port, could it be your internet provider blocking?
[03:29] <cwillu_> I don't really know anything about that package, sorry
[03:29] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, but it works on my windows machine :(
[03:29] <neoginn1> ok KP
[03:29] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, ok, then it's a problem with the site not supporting Linux
[03:29] <zombics> does "nv" driver support tnt2?
[03:30] <crouchingMonkey> harr...to hell with that site then :(
[03:30] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, i can even watch the trailers from apple.com with no problem, it seems to be related to the site, not your configuration
[03:30] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, i know but i know where are the .deb ...
[03:30] <Sp4rKy> and maybe the .deb are outdated
[03:30] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, tho you may be able to tweak to get it, that's outta my league, sorry, but I can't get that either, stuck at 99%
[03:31] <linuxN00B> Nothing seems to be using up a lot of any thig but all programs are taking forever to launch
[03:31] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, well then thx a lot, and im glad my codecs are working fine :)
[03:31] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: I gave you a reference
[03:31] <TheRabbit> I suck at Linux.
[03:31] <neoginn1> ok i went to synaptic and i have dopwnloaded G++ but how do i run it?
[03:31] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, well, they seem to be, and since I can't access that site and others work, I'm betting it's the site not compatible with Linux. Sorry I couldn't be of more help
[03:31] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, thx
[03:32] <zombics> how can i chek where is my mouse configured?
[03:32] <crouchingMonkey> thats allright, man and thanks again tristanmike
[03:32] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, what is that video suppose to be of?
[03:33] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, some car crash
[03:33] <ateves> noone has problems with an usb mp3 player?
[03:33] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, found a workaround
[03:33] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, open up your file browser and go to your home folder
[03:33] <crouchingMonkey> ok
[03:34] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, then press ctrl+h to show hidden files and go down to .mozilla and enter that folder
[03:34] <linuxN00B> snowblink, Nothing seems to be using up a lot resources but all programs are taking forever to launch
[03:34] <wonder> hi, did somebody manage to install xmame or even better gxmame on a recent ubuntu?
[03:34] <wonder> the gxmame pagage won't install and compiling from sources seems to be impossible for me
[03:34] <tuxito> heloo someone could help me to setting up my own mail server based on ubuntu 5.10 pleeeease
[03:35] <LuisBG> changing the "breezy"s for "dapper"s in apt source list will upgrade me to dapper?
[03:35] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, ok i did that
[03:35] <snowblink> linuxN00B, what's the current load on your machine?
[03:35] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, make your way to the folder called "cache" though "firefox-blahblah.default-Cache
[03:36] <titov> anyone know where I can find the config.gz file in ubuntu so that I can use it on a new kernel build?
[03:36] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, found it
[03:36] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, and in that folder you should see your video. copy it to your desktop and open with mplayer
[03:36] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, when I tried to play with Totem, it crashed and vlc didn't show a video
[03:37] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, mplayer plays the videos just fine
[03:37] <tuxito> i'm wondering if, someone could me to setting up my own email server under ubuntu
[03:37] <avar> is there a ppc ubuntu channel?
[03:37] <whyami> titov: the config of the stock kernel is in /boot and it is called config-Linux-blah-blah-blah
[03:37] <ansinh> it still doesn't work :((
[03:37] <LuisBG> changing the "breezy"s for "dapper"s in apt source list will upgrade me to dapper?
[03:37] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, yup, it does, that's a pretty nasty car crash
[03:37] <crouchingMonkey> tristanmike, it must be that the site is poorly coded
[03:37] <TuxAtWork> whyami, ejabberd is a Jabber Server
[03:37] <ansinh> hey guys....i've installed the new version of alse
[03:37] <ansinh> alsa
[03:37] <TuxAtWork> whyami, it listens on port 5222
[03:37] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, lazy = windows
[03:37] <titov> thanks whyami :-)
[03:38] <crouchingMonkey> so true tristanmike :)
[03:38] <ansinh> but there's still no sound at all
[03:38] <linuxN00B> Load average : 0.06, 0.14, 0.11
[03:38] <crimsun> ansinh: but are you actually running the newer version? cat /proc/asound/version
[03:38] <tuxito> someone from canada?
[03:38] <zombics> where does ubuntu config a ps2 mouse?
[03:38] <linuxN00B> snowblink, Load average : 0.06, 0.14, 0.11
[03:38] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, anyway, that's what i do everytime I see a file I like, I check the "Cache" folder here and movies usually have that film reel strip on the side so they're easier to find
[03:39] <ansinh> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc3.
[03:39] <ansinh> Compiled on Mar  7 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-9-386.
[03:39] <ansinh> it is, isn't it?
[03:39] <tristanmike> tuxito, I'm a canuck
[03:39] <crimsun> ansinh: why don't you update kernels _first_? a newer 2.6.12 in Ubuntu's repo is available.
[03:39] <snowblink> linuxN00B, keep an eye on top -i and the load when you start up new apps. See what happens
[03:39] <ansinh> :(
[03:40] <imperfect-> Anyone here used ntop?
[03:40] <crouchingMonkey> yes, it was easy to find, and the folder is pretty small, i only cache about 50 megs tristanmike
[03:40] <crimsun> imperfect-: darkstat is preferable to ntop
[03:40] <jed> salut tout le monde
[03:40] <cvasilak> hello there, i am thinking of installing ubiuntu dapper drake and test it, but does anyone know if the new dual core mobile cpus are supported by the kernel that comes with dapper? i have just bought a sony vaio fe 11s model (anyone got it running?)
[03:41] <link> holas
[03:41] <crimsun> cvasilak: they're supported.
[03:41] <tristanmike> crouchingMonkey, cool, that wont be enough for those huge movie clips, lol, but you should find most of what your looking for in here. Remember that if it "buffers" it's somewhere on your computer ;)
[03:41] <link> alguin habla espaol
[03:41] <crimsun> link: #ubuntu-es
[03:41] <link> :-)
[03:41] <cvasilak> crimsun: thanks
[03:42] <saik0> When i plugin my CF card my terminal output goes insane with I/O errors
[03:42] <ansinh> crimsun, the newest version of linux kernel is 2.6.12.16, isn't it?
[03:42] <ansinh> may I update it via synaptic?
[03:42] <ph8> Hey guys, hoping for a touch of the old support, If i wanted to install the 'fish' kio for KDE, how would I go about it?
[03:42] <crimsun> ansinh: 2.6.12-10 in Breezy
[03:42] <link> ok thanks crimsun
[03:43] <crimsun> ph8: you wouldn't install it, you'd just use it. It's already there.
[03:43] <erratic> ok
[03:43] <erratic> I'm in this disk manager thing
[03:43] <erratic> why won't it enable this partition
[03:43] <linuxN00B> snowblink, It is frustrating I tried closeing amarok the app that has been giving me trouble anf after I put the system monitor on It seems to be fine now
[03:43] <ph8> crimsun: I'm told it adds functionality for using sftp:// with Kate
[03:43] <tuxito> emila server, any help please
[03:43] <tuxito> emil server, any help please
[03:43] <tuxito> email server, any help please
[03:43] <ph8> but it doesn't work atm (unrecognised protocol)
[03:43] <crimsun> erratic: way to ask a question about which no one has ANY context.
[03:44] <ansinh> ok, crimsun , i'm downloading it
[03:44] <erratic> suck a fart out of my ass you worthless hippy
[03:44] <ansinh> hope this will work :(
[03:44] <crimsun> erratic: nice try, play again.
[03:44] <erratic> how about ignore fuccin crimsun because he's a troll
[03:44] <jbroome> Bwahahahaha
[03:44] <tristanmike> lol
[03:44] <crimsun> yeah, way to be a winnar.
[03:45] <ompaul> hehe
[03:45] <tristanmike> you just don't know who you're talking to on the net ;)
[03:45] <ph8> did you see above crimsun?
[03:45] <crimsun> ph8: sorry, allow me to scroll up, please
[03:46] <linuxN00B> snowblink, I am trying to install all the things that I will need to see most websites and I am looking to get macromedia flash player
[03:46] <min> untu-fi
[03:46] <min> #ubuntu-fi
[03:46] <ph8> thanks :D
[03:46] <Frogzoo> tristanmike: Elvis! is that you?
[03:47] <allanh128> Hello,  We just installed Breezy with gnome,  Whenevery we try to run anything that requires the user password  it thinks for a minute then does nothing.  I searched around on the web.  It appears to be a common problem with sudo but no solution so far.  Any Ideas?  Thanks.
[03:47] <tristanmike> Frogzoo, NO! Call me Bubba Ho-tep
[03:47] <Frogzoo> lol
[03:48] <gnomefreak> allanh128: depends what you are trying to run
[03:48] <bigfoot1> How can i record my internet phone call when I'm using phone-software? I tried sound-recorder, but it says "OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program.
[03:49] <chmod775> is there any link for cgi :: irc
[03:49] <chmod775> ?
[03:49] <chmod775> anyone using irc over http
[03:49] <chmod775> ?
[03:49] <allanh128> gnomefreak: I just tried to bring up system administration, login screen setup.  I entered my password,  it thinks for a minute but never actually launches.  it seems to do this for every app that needs the password.
[03:49] <Frogzoo> chmod775: I've done that with gaim, no probs
[03:49] <crimsun> ph8: it's supposed to be enabled by default. Is an ssh server running on the host you're attempting to connect to? (You may also want to ask in #kubuntu if you haven't already.)
[03:49] <power1> Any1 here ever succesfully run vmware 5.5 on ubuntu 5.1 on a centrino laptop sharing the wifi lan connection
[03:50] <chmod775> I am talking about irc with the webrowser ?
[03:50] <ph8> yes, i can ssh into it crimsun
[03:50] <ph8> and access it with nautilus
[03:50] <ph8> i'm actually running Ubuntu :p
[03:50] <ph8> I just like kate
[03:50] <ph8> gedit has the same issue
[03:50] <gnomefreak> allanh128: what happens when you run sudo apt-get update in terminal?
[03:50] <ph8> well actually
[03:50] <ph8> gedit opens files from sftp, but they're always readonly
[03:50] <ph8> which is useless to me
[03:50] <chmod775> anybody ?
[03:50] <ph8> i want to save to the remote file
[03:50] <crimsun> ansinh: yes, you can use Synaptic to update it
[03:50] <ph8> i'm open to using other editors if you know any?
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can about any dualmonitor setupping howto?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ph8 about enter
[03:51] <Yango> I have a weird non constant problem upon shutdown,,, it sometimes powers off with no trouble from the X session, but some other times the X session kills the menu and stops there the shutdown process, I havfe to switch to a console and then manually do shutdown -h now and now it doesn't turn off the computer, it just gets to system halted and have to manually turn it off... what can be a cause for this?
[03:51] <Frogzoo> ph8: emacs || vi
[03:52] <ph8> Frogzoo: In a desktop setting?!
[03:52] <ph8> who knew...
[03:52] <avar> have any of you used mol on ppc to run ubuntu from an iso image?
[03:52] <allanh128> gnomefreak:  when we use sudo apt-get update  nothing happens.  if we su to root in the termial  it fetches updates normally
[03:52] <gnomefreak> allanh128: thats why
[03:53] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can about any dualmonitor setupping howto?
[03:53] <dradul> Yango, a myriad things. From a corrupt CMOS to a failing DRAM chip, mobo, CPU. Try first by hard-reseting the BIOS in your board (check your mainboard manual for the location of the reset jumper).
[03:53] <chmod775> maxkelley, hi dude
[03:53] <chmod775> ?
[03:53] <allanh128> gnomefreak:  I'm not sure I understand.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> allanh128: enabling su is normally a bad idea it can cause sudo to be rendered useless
[03:53] <silas> hi
[03:53] <silas> are there any code generation tools in ubuntu  ?
[03:53] <allanh128> gnomfreak:  how do I fix this.
[03:53] <rickhimar> hello, anyone, Im very new to linux and totally non-technical. I want to find out how to load a .deb package that I downloaded from the internet. It is the package to allow me to dial-up using Juno
[03:54] <jbroome> silas: does vi count? :)
[03:54] <Frogzoo> silas: how long is a piece of string....
[03:54] <CarinArr> rickhimar, sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[03:54] <jbroome> How do you dig half a hole
[03:54] <saik0> why would the terminal spit out a bunch of Buffer I/O errors when i plugin a device (CF card) and open it read only?
[03:54] <Yango> dradul, the weirdest part is that X doesn't shutdown properly... I'd buy your theory if the computer got until 'system halted' sometimes and sometimes not, but this seems like a window manager shutdown process issue
[03:55] <Frogzoo> jbroome: dig a whole hole - then fill it half in :p
[03:55] <gnomefreak> allanh128: i think (dont quote me on this) but i think you need to add your user back to sudoers list. i have never enabled su so i cant be for sure of the fix
[03:55] <CarinArr> rickhimar, be aware that it might not work if it's not an ubuntu package..
[03:55] <asd> hi im  trying to run looking glass and im getting an error about somposite extension or something not being enabled what would this mean?
[03:55] <asd> Composite
[03:56] <dradul> Yango, then it could be just a corrupt library. Try reinstalling: plug your install CD, open synaptic, select all libraries already installed, mark for reinstallation, drink coffee and reboot ;-)
[03:56] <rickhimar> Thank you..I will try it.
[03:57] <amicrawler> how do i gain root access in user mode ?
[03:57] <Frogzoo> Yango: this happens to me too infrequently - but I can't recall it happening anytime I hadn't closed down after a suspend to ram
[03:57] <amicrawler> i'm use to  just adding my pass
[03:57] <amicrawler> no sudo -s a and stuff
[03:57] <IdleOne> amicrawler>  use sudo
[03:57] <Ng> amicrawler: sudo -i will give youa root shell
[03:57] <amicrawler> i do
[03:58] <Yango> Frogzoo, on #linux they're talking about it probably being related to acpi
[03:58] <Ng> !tell amicrawler about root
[03:58] <tristanmike> !tell amicrawler about root
[03:58] <amicrawler> not what i'm looking  for
[03:58] <amicrawler> i know about root
[03:58] <Frogzoo> Yango: $5 says definately
[03:58] <Damian_> How do i turn on compisite manager
[03:58] <Ng> amicrawler: then what are you looking for?
[03:58] <Yango> Frogzoo, $5?
[03:58] <tristanmike> !tell Damian_ about composite
[03:58] <Frogzoo> I'll even offer 6/4 :D
[03:59] <amicrawler> when i'm in user mode  i want to chage my loging  it ask my pass word then it say sorry
[03:59] <amicrawler> i use  gdm
[03:59] <Damian_> thanks
[03:59] <IdleOne> amicrawler>  you want to login as root?
[03:59] <amicrawler> yes and change stuff around
[03:59] <amicrawler> in user mode
[03:59] <amicrawler> i very usee to suse
[04:00] <IdleOne> amicrawler>  root is locked if you want to change things around use sudo
[04:00] <amicrawler> i do
[04:00] <cdubya> quick question: if you setup wpasupplicant and need to setup multiple networks, it all good with the client, or do you have to mod something to get it to work right, as far as selecting which network is available?
[04:00] <IdleOne> !tell amicrawler  about rootsudo
[04:00] <Ng> if you want to log into gdm as root you need to enable the root account and configure gdm to allow root logins
[04:00] <amicrawler> keeps saying wrong pass
[04:00] <Ng> but generally you don't want to do either
[04:00] <Frogzoo> cdubya: consider wifi radar...
[04:00] <silas> sorry i had to go out for a sec, so back to code generation tools in ubuntu
[04:01] <IdleOne> amicrawler>  are caps lock on?
[04:01] <Ng> amicrawler: could you be a little more specific about exactly what you are doing and what you're trying to do?
[04:01] <silas> fc4 seems to have many of them
[04:01] <gnomefreak> ok go to tty than sign in that sudo startx will log you in as "root"
[04:01] <Ng> gnomefreak: that sounds like a pretty terrible idea
[04:01] <silas> and I am not clear as to what he means by code generation tools
[04:01] <silas> since it is for a friend of mine
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Ng: i did it by mistake one day didnt know if it was good
[04:01] <Ng> silas: do you mean you want to compile things? Install the build-essential package
[04:01] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  he seems to be a noob telling him do that may help him break his system :/
[04:02] <gnomefreak> oh ok :( ignore statment than
[04:02] <amicrawler> in suse i just type my password and i gain root access  like yast or admin stuff and change leves and etc:
[04:02] <silas> Ng: not compiling , code generation tools is what he said
[04:02] <cdubya> Frogzoo, ummm......I didn't that worked.
[04:02] <silas> he is a software engineer , and he has some heavy coding work
[04:02] <cdubya> Frogzoo, but that's likely an issue with how I had it setup......?
[04:02] <tristanmike> amicrawler, yes, but ubuntu takes quite a different approach to "root"
[04:02] <Ng> silas: well that doesn't really mean much, but tell him to search in synaptic, there are lots of coding tools in there
[04:02] <ompaul> !tell amicrawler about root
[04:02] <silas> he said fc4 has the same , i advised him to try ubuntu
[04:02] <cdubya> Frogzoo, I used the WPAHowTo before and followed it word for word.
[04:02] <silas> ok
[04:03] <Ng> amicrawler: where do you type your password? all of the things in the system->administration menu will ask you for your password and give you root equivalent access to those tools
[04:03] <allanh128> gnomefreak:  Cool thanks that fixed the problem.
[04:03] <Ng> amicrawler: you still need to be more specific. this isn't suse and probably most of us aren't familiar with suse
[04:03] <gnomefreak> allanh128: glad i could help
[04:03] <Sp4rKy> where could i find a good tutorial to build .deb
[04:03] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: Debian New Maintainers Guide
[04:04] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, where?
[04:04] <bur[n] er> Sp4rKy: if you want an easy way though... checkinstall makes them
[04:04] <LuisBG> changing the "breezy"s for "dapper"s in apt source list will upgrade me to dapper?
[04:04] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: on the Debian Web site. Search.
[04:04] <ippo081> salve
[04:04] <bur[n] er> Sp4rKy: or google for "debian new maintainers guide" of course, I'm guessing it't eh first hit
[04:04] <crimsun> LuisBG: and updating and dist-upgrading, yes
[04:04] <IdleOne> LuisBG>  yes but may not work properly
[04:04] <IdleOne> !tell LuisBG  about flight4
[04:04] <NET||abuse> hmm, simple group management issue here... how do i add myself to a group? i'm not able to do anything to the files in /var/www so i think i need to be in the www group
[04:05] <Sp4rKy> thx
[04:05] <Ng> NET||abuse: the easiest way would be "sudo adduser yourusername groupname"
[04:05] <bur[n] er> NET||abuse: system, admin, users
[04:05] <NET||abuse> system,admin,users weh?
[04:05] <pha> Can someone help me out with oidentd? The problem is still there. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/348/ Maybe you can look at this ;)
[04:05] <Fawzib> hello, I'm trying to compile winbind so I can add support for idmap, I did "apt-get source winbind" added the "with_idmap" option to debian/rules and did the dpkg-buildpackage but it is giving me a compile error
[04:05] <bur[n] er> NET||abuse: using gnome?
[04:05] <Ng> System menu ->Administration->users and groups
[04:06] <NET||abuse> grand, added myslef to www-data group
[04:06] <Ng> Fawzib: winbind is in the repositories
[04:06] <NET||abuse> hmm, but the permissions on /var/www are 755
[04:06] <sagi> how can i mount some hd and allow normal users to work on it
[04:06] <ansinh> !alsa
[04:06] <ubotu> alsa is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[04:06] <Ng> Fawzib: 3.0.14a is in universe
[04:06] <IdleOne> Fawzib>  install buil-essential
[04:06] <bur[n] er> !tell sagi about fstab
[04:06] <IdleOne> Fawzib>  install build-essential
[04:06] <NET||abuse> so what's that lark about
[04:06] <Fawzib> yes, but it does not have idmap support compiled in
[04:06] <NET||abuse> i need to be able to edit those files
[04:06] <Ng> Fawzib: ah
[04:07] <bur[n] er> NET||abuse: change them to 775 of course
[04:07] <NET||abuse> bur[n] er: yeh, i know, but www is 755 for a reason no?
[04:07] <Svennig> I'm running breezy at the moment - how do I install gcc 3.4? some dependencies are missing
[04:07] <Fawzib> i could use the packages ar enterprisesamba.com but they dont have x64 packages just x86
[04:07] <NET||abuse> bur[n] er: www-data should only have read writes to normal folders
[04:07] <bur[n] er> I see no reason
[04:07] <IdleOne> Svennig>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:08] <Ng> IdleOne: that will install gcc 4
[04:08] <cdubya> anyone know what entry I'm supposed to use in the driver field for Wifi Radar?
[04:08] <Svennig> IdleOne that gives me gcc 4
[04:08] <NET||abuse> bur[n] er: hmm, so how can i maintain www-data as only having read writes but give myself rights.
[04:08] <NET||abuse> bur[n] er: but i don't want to be able to edit all system files with my default users
[04:08] <IdleOne> Svennig>  do it and you will lose those compile errors :)
[04:08] <interferon> is upgrading to dapper just a matter of changing my /etc/apt/sources.lst and then running apt-get update and upgrade?
[04:08] <bur[n] er> NET||abuse: add yourself to www-data and then change the permissions on /var/www/* to 775
[04:08] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[04:08] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[04:08] <ansinh> sorry for asking this again and again but how do I make ubontu to tell me about sth?
[04:08] <NET||abuse> interferon:  you need to run apt-get upgrade distribution
[04:08] <Ng> Svennig: you should just be able to install the gcc-3.4 package
[04:09] <Svennig> IdleOne - I have compile errors _because_ I'm using gcc 4, which is why I need 3.4
[04:09] <gnomefreak> apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:09] <crimsun> ansinh: just msg it
[04:09] <Frogzoo> ansinh: /msg ubotu wassup
[04:09] <pha> Can someone help me out with oidentd? The problem is still there. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/348/ Maybe you can look at this ;)
[04:09] <ansinh> !msg ubotu alsa
[04:09] <ubotu> ansinh: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:09] <ansinh> !msg alsa
[04:09] <ubotu> ansinh: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:09] <Svennig> NG - I cant seem to do it - looking at gcc-3.4, loads of stuff is missing: gcc-3.4-base cpp-3.4
[04:09] <Frogzoo> ansinh: ^^^
[04:09] <ansinh> :(
[04:09] <IdleOne> Svennig>  k dont try it cause it might work
[04:10] <Ng> Svennig: those should all be in the main repository - sounds like either your apt sources.list is broken or you need to update your package listings
[04:10] <wevex> anyone knows how i can use the file command to list all filetypes in a folder whit a shell script?
[04:10] <Ng> wevex: file *
[04:11] <Svennig> hmm strange.. working now. Thanks Ng :C
[04:11] <Ng> or you could do "find . -exec file {} \;" if you want it to be recursive
[04:11] <ansinh> found it...thx you man :D
[04:11] <wevex> Ng: omg is it that easy =) you just saved me tons of work time.. thanks!
[04:12] <NET||abuse> ok no,, it doesn't work
[04:12] <wevex> Ng: dont really get the last one.. what is it supost to do?
[04:13] <NET||abuse> chmod 775 on the /var/www and chgrp -hR www-data /var/www; and adduser me www-data; still doesn't allow me write permisions... feckit!!!
[04:13] <NET||abuse> how can i do this?
[04:13] <ansinh> hey....when i run sudo module-assistant a-i
[04:13] <ansinh> alsa-source, i get the error mess:
[04:13] <ansinh> Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could   
[04:13] <ansinh>       not be                                                             
[04:13] <ansinh>       found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use.   
[04:14] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:14] <ansinh> how can i specify the kernel headers?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> ansinh: use pastebin
[04:14] <Ng> wevex: it finds every file in the current directory and all sub directories and executes "find" on each
[04:14] <ph8> xemacs is rubbish :(
[04:14] <Ng> wevex: the {} means "insert the current filename here" and \; means "this is the end of the command to -exec"
[04:14] <ansinh> yes....sorry
[04:15] <ph8> Does anyone know a good text editor (Like Kate) that will support sftp/scp editing?
[04:15] <crimsun> ansinh: you didn't (re)install linux-headers-$(uname -r) for your new kernel
[04:15] <wevex> Ng: ok cool. think i got it.. will try it out a bit.. thanks
[04:15] <Jemt> Greetz. How can I disable grouping of applications on the taskbar? It's the worst feature Microsoft have ever invented - and even worse that Gnome/Ubuntu has included this feature too
[04:16] <ansinh> :D...doing it right now
[04:16] <eth42> my network connection property monitor is often showing activity (receiving and sending). how can I check what network traffic this is?
[04:17] <LoCusF> eth42: check out ethereal
[04:17] <Jemt> eth42: With Ethereal
[04:17] <eth42> ok
[04:17] <michael> hi
[04:17] <NET||abuse> ok, this should be a really easy fix, but what am i doing wrong?
[04:17] <Jemt> NET||abuse: What's the problem?
[04:18] <edan> hi whan i run sudo glxgears i get the folowwing error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:18] <edan> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[04:18] <edan> 
[04:18] <[Leo] > hi all
[04:18] <edan> waht 2 do?
[04:18] <NET||abuse> oh wait, i run "groups" and www-data isn't listed....
[04:18] <hikenboot> anyone know of a keystroke that slows mouse motion down..my daughter got ahold of my computer and turned mouse motion upto maximum and i cant click on the slide bar...
[04:18] <colm> hikenboot, use tab and arrow keys?
[04:18] <[Leo] > hikenboot: try open mouse option
[04:18] <gnomefreak> edan: 5.10 ubuntu?
[04:19] <hikenboot> open mouse options?
[04:19] <edan> gnomefreak, ya
[04:19] <sagi> whats the name for the gd and the gd-devel on apt?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> edan: sudo is not needed for glxgears
[04:19] <Ng> NET||abuse: log out and back in for group changes to take effect
[04:19] <edan> gnomefreak, hi again
[04:19] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:19] <NET||abuse> Jemt: thanks, i was trying to allow myself access to /var/www
[04:19] <[Leo] > does anyone have problems with samba and dapper?
[04:19] <Ng> sagi: probably libgd and libgd-dev
[04:19] <NET||abuse> awww
[04:19] <[Leo] > not samba, but smb:///
[04:19] <gnomefreak> edan: run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable for me please
[04:19] <NET||abuse> can i not make group changes happen without a logout/login?
[04:19] <hikenboot> thanks colm tab keys and arrows worked great
[04:19] <Jemt> NET||abuse: My solution ; create a directory with /var/www called 'public' and chmod it with the value 777
[04:19] <[Leo] > i can't use nautilus to browse win servers
[04:20] <Jemt> NET||abuse: That should give you access
[04:20] <sagi> couldn't find libgd, tho there is libgd-dev
[04:20] <edan> an error has popped up...
[04:20] <NET||abuse> Jemt: yeh, but that would suck
[04:20] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : #ubuntu+1 is for dapper questions please try theree
[04:20] <NET||abuse> i dunno... oh wait, i'll own it with admin
[04:20] <[Leo] > gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[04:20] <gnomefreak> edan: give me an idea what the error says
[04:20] <michael> deusche sver?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> yw [Leo] 
[04:20] <michael> server$
[04:20] <Frogzoo> !de
[04:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:20] <LoCusF> !fi
[04:20] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[04:21] <NET||abuse> ya
[04:21] <gnomefreak> edan: paste it in pastebin would be best so i can see the full error
[04:21] <NET||abuse> sudo chgrp -hR admin /var/www; that worked
[04:21] <Frogzoo> !nl
[04:21] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:21] <Jemt> NET||abuse: With 'admin' ?
[04:21] <edan> gnomefreak, xconiguration has been alerted this script cannot procced auto....
[04:21] <NET||abuse> yep, with admin
[04:22] <edan> gnomefreak, how do i do that?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> edan: can you tell me what uname -r says if you type it in terminal
[04:23] <edan> gnomefreak, 2.6.12-10-386
[04:23] <gnomefreak> edan: ok its a nvidia card i assume?
[04:23] <edan> gnomefreak, yep
[04:23] <s|k> crimsun, are you around? :)
[04:23] <crimsun> s|k: not really.
[04:23] <gnomefreak> edan: did you install nvidia-settings?
[04:23] <edan> gnomefreak, yes
[04:24] <zulfiqar> when i try "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-universe" it gives an eorro package not found, wat shoul di do to install it?
[04:24] <s|k> crimsun, I have an issue with upgrading alsa-source, will you be around sometme later? :/
[04:24] <gnomefreak> edan: you also installed nvidia-glx right?
[04:24] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, what's the error?
[04:24] <linuxN00B> can anyone reconmed a good flash player?
[04:24] <crimsun> s|k: you can ask now, but my responses will be lagged
[04:24] <s|k> crimsun, thanks, I tried to follow the steps again but I end up with a broken package
[04:25] <gnomefreak> edan: in terminal type glxgears -printfps and give me an idea on what the last number of line 2 says
[04:25] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, nevermind, didn't read :s
[04:25] <zulfiqar> tristanmike,  "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-universe
[04:25] <zulfiqar> "
[04:25] <s|k> crimsun, here's the error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/588352
[04:25] <edan> gnomefreak, i think so im not possitive
[04:25] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, do you have the universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:25] <Frogzoo> linuxN00B: the restricted ff plugin mebbe?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> edan: on than type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx first
[04:26] <edan> gnomefreak, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:26] <edan> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[04:26] <mkorz> So... is it common for a new linux user to reinstall several times?
[04:26] <tristanmike> mkorz, I did
[04:26] <crimsun> s|k: um, you should not be installing a newer alsa-base package.
[04:26] <btdown> I did as well...
[04:26] <zulfiqar> tristanmike, how i do that?
[04:26] <crimsun> s|k: only install a newer alsa-source deb
[04:26] <Frogzoo> mkorz: only because they're new - it's entirely unnecessary
[04:26] <edan> gnomefreak, i allready installed it...
[04:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar about universe
[04:26] <asd> 3d desktop this
[04:26] <tristanmike> !tell zulfiqar about repos
[04:26] <asd> looking glass 3d
[04:26] <s|k> crimsun, oh
[04:26] <asd> FUCKING AWESOME
[04:27] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[04:27] <gnomefreak> asd: please watch your language
[04:27] <nicke`> ubuntu.se
[04:27] <asd> sorry
[04:27] <linuxN00B> Frogzoo, do you justt type apt-get (name)?
[04:27] <s|k> crimsun, how can I learn more about alsa-source so I don't always have to bug you ;P
[04:27] <Damian_> have you seen it?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> edan: give me a min your making me think today
[04:27] <crimsun> s|k: read the source, of course.
[04:27] <edan> gnomefreak, hhh ok
[04:28] <cdubya> gah, is wpasupplicant really this messed up to implement? I've tried I countless times to get the setup to work as per the WPAHowTo and it never works.
[04:28] <gnomefreak> edan: what card do you have?
[04:28] <Jowi> hi everyone
[04:28] <edan> gnomefreak, gforce mx 440
[04:28] <wevex> Ng: i want to make a script that can take a lot of input files and test them whit the file command.. like script.sh file1 file2 ....... you have any ide of how to do this?
[04:28] <edan> gnomefreak, gforce 4 mx 440
[04:28] <Damian_> (http://lg3d.dev.java.net) everyone needs this
[04:29] <gnomefreak> edan: do you have the restricted modules for your arch installed?
[04:29] <s|k> crimsun, uh, I know PHP and JavaScript and that's it :0
[04:29] <ph8> Hi again, I still have the same problem. I'm running gnome, I want to edit files over sftp or scp in a way that when I save in the text-editor it overwrites the file (instead of saving then having to upload seperately) - gedit does fine for ftp:// but not sftp:// or scp:// - are there any plugins or other programs I can use?
[04:29] <s|k> crimsun, I don't know if I could make anysense from the source
[04:29] <crimsun> s|k: the source is not difficult. Start with the documentation in the source first.
[04:29] <edan> gnomefreak, i dont know...
[04:29] <Ng> wevex: yes, but it's a bit complex for in here. there are quit e afew bash scripting howto's in google though
[04:29] <Frogzoo> linuxN00B: 'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla'
[04:29] <s|k> crimsun, okay
[04:29] <edan> gnomefreak, i dont know what that means...
[04:29] <ansinh> no luck man :((
[04:30] <ansinh> my sound card still don't worl :((
[04:30] <gnomefreak> edan: open synaptic and search for linux-restricted-modules
[04:30] <ansinh> work
[04:30] <zulfiqar> tristanmike, i installed the new repos and did apt-get update and still doesnot do it
[04:30] <crimsun> ansinh: cat /proc/asound/version
[04:30] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, you are running Breezy?
[04:30] <ansinh> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc3.
[04:30] <ansinh> Compiled on Mar  7 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[04:30] <zulfiqar> tristanmike,  yes
[04:30] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar: can you please paste your sources.lsit file onto pastebin
[04:30] <crimsun> ansinh: _please_ use pastebin...
[04:30] <ansinh> it's only 2 line :(
[04:31] <gnomefreak> ansinh: read /topic
[04:31] <zulfiqar> gnomefreak, ok
[04:31] <crimsun> ansinh: it doesn't matter. I specifically asked you to use pastebin.
[04:31] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, it appears I don't have it either
[04:31] <crimsun> ansinh: now, amixer
[04:31] <wevex> Ng think i van figure it out.. but i need to know what the imputs "names" is? if i want to echo the input (ASDF) of script.sh ASDF whats that echo ??
[04:31] <ansinh> yes.....
[04:31] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: what are you looking for?
[04:31] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, gstreamer0.8-plugins-universe
[04:32] <gnomefreak> are you sure its supposed to have universe at the end?
[04:32] <edan> gnomefreak, this packeges are installed Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on 386, Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules helper script, NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[04:32] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, I'm giving you what I got ;P
[04:32] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, so no, not yet, checking
[04:32] <zulfiqar> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9816
[04:32] <gnomefreak> ok edan ok
[04:32] <boldii> hi
[04:32] <boldii> I have somehow lost my menu. Now I want to get the original one back. how is this possible?
[04:33] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, are you trying to install multimedia stuff?
[04:33] <zulfiqar> tristanmike, yes
[04:33] <Jowi> wevex: why not test all files in a dir? like: "for i in *; do"
[04:33] <zulfiqar> tristanmike, all the codecs
[04:33] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, are you sure it's not gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse   <----multiverse, not universe?
[04:33] <edan> gnomefreak, hhh :)
[04:33] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:34] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: you have 3d with nvidia in breezy?
[04:34] <wevex> Jowi: i want to thest the input files.. you know how i for example echo the first input??
[04:34] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, what do you mean?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: your video card a nvidia?
[04:34] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, yup
[04:34] <Jowi> wevex: it should be $1, $2 etc for the inputs
[04:35] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, and I've installed the drivers, if that's what you mean
[04:35] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: did you set it up for 3d?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> yayyyy
[04:35] <zulfiqar> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs is this an updated guide?
[04:35] <lucaas> is gnomebaker the best gtk program for cd-burning?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> good give me a hand hes got some strange issues
[04:35] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, I was suppose to?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar: no dont use it
[04:35] <tristanmike> !ubuntuguide
[04:35] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:35] <zulfiqar> gnomefreak, can u tell me a guide how to install codecs then?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> no tristanmike but his issues are weird to me so im hoping you can help
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar about codecs
[04:36] <wevex> Jowi: thanks
[04:36] <Jowi> wevex: so if you type "mycommand.sh file1 file2", in mycommand.sh you should echo $1 for file1 and $2 for file2
[04:36] <ansinh> crimsun, sorry for late reply, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9817
[04:36] <zulfiqar> !easysource
[04:36] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <wevex> Jowi: ok, thanks a lot
[04:36] <jerkism> can anyone tell me how to force the system to use the old gcc version installed, without having to remove basically all applications that are installed?
[04:36] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, I'm still relatively new, but I'll try any way I can, what exactly is the problem?
[04:37] <Jowi> wevex: #bash helped me alot with my first scripts :)
[04:37] <gnomefreak> edan: ok can you use pastebin and paste the full error for sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edan about pastebin
[04:37] <gnomefreak> edan: pastebin site is in your pm from ubotu
[04:37] <Frogzoo_away> wevex: something like... #!/bin/bash
[04:37] <Frogzoo_away> read x
[04:37] <Frogzoo_away> echo $x
[04:37] <edan> gnomefreak, thnx it will take a sec....
[04:38] <crimsun> ansinh: unmute 'Stereo Downmix'
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ok edan
[04:38] <qt4x11> hi
[04:38] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: hes gonna paste it tell me if youve heard of that before please
[04:38] <zeasier> so i've installed ubuntu server 5.10. everything is configured correctly so ifup eth0 works, but it doesn't bring eth0 up when it boots.
[04:38] <wevex> Jowi: i will try that channel then =) im soo in to C seam to mix them all the time :P
[04:38] <qt4x11> is ldapbrowser available as an ubuntu package?
[04:38] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, sure
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:38] <davro> does anyone know of a bash command to get the encoding type of a file ?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> qt4x11: packages.ubuntu.com lists all packages per version of ubuntu
[04:39] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, where are the installation instructions comming from?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: from the factoid
[04:39] <cdubya> have folks here successfully used wpasupplicant without many problems?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[04:39] <Jowi> wevex: yeah, that's easy to do. bash is similar but very different at the same time. very confusing at first :)
[04:39] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:39] <ansinh> crimsun, no luck :(
[04:39] <Frogzoo_away> zeasier: add a line 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:39] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, yeah, ok
[04:39] <zulfiqar> gnomefreak, is it possible u can post your source.list for me?
[04:40] <edan> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9818
[04:40] <edan> gnomefreak, thats ok?
[04:40] <tristanmike> zulfiqar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9819
[04:40] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar: i have breezy sources on pastebin if you search for sources you will find alot of people do
[04:40] <ansinh> i don't understand this.....it once worked
[04:40] <crimsun> ansinh: ok, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[04:41] <tristanmike> edan, did you make any adjustments to your xorg.conf file?
[04:41] <[Leo] > later!
[04:41] <gnomefreak> edan: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg make sure the drivers are listed as nvidia not nv
[04:41] <zeasier> Frogzoo_away: ok i'll give that a try, though my desktop lacks that configuration and boots up fine
[04:41] <edan> yes today with you :)
[04:41] <tristanmike> edan, not with me ;)
[04:41] <ansinh> i got a warning
[04:42] <ansinh> choose don't reload?
[04:42] <Jowi> wevex: but what you want to do is pretty simple. myprog: line1: #!/bin/bash     line2: echo $1 $2      then save, make execute and run it "./myprog test hello"
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ^^^thats the last step i can think of for that error unles you run the md5sum check
[04:42] <jerkism> can anyone tell me how to force the system to use the old gcc version installed, without having to remove basically all applications that are installed?
[04:42] <jerkism> c'mon there must be some1, who has experienced similar problem ;(
[04:42] <edan> gnomefreak, i did that today with your help
[04:42] <unstable> Anyone want to play tetris with me? apt-get install gtetrinet; and then start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net
[04:42] <sfR> "Before anything make sure u uncomment the universe and multiverse repositories"
[04:42] <sfR> say what?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> edan: did you restart X after that?
[04:42] <sfR> oh, just got it.
[04:43] <edan> gnomefreak, yep
[04:43] <Jowi> jerkism: should be "export GCC=version"
[04:43] <gnomefreak> unstable: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <gnomefreak> edan: ok lets do it again
[04:43] <ansinh> still doesn't work.....
[04:43] <javiolo> hi
[04:43] <ansinh> after the last command it re-detect the sound card
[04:43] <javiolo> where are the logs of firestarter ?
[04:44] <ansinh> but there's still no sound
[04:44] <gnomefreak> edan: when it lists the type of card you have stop and tell me what it says please
[04:44] <edan> gnomefreak, ok im at the cofiguration
[04:44] <crimsun> ansinh: there shouldn't be. You need to reset the mixer levels.
[04:44] <gnomefreak> nm your there
[04:44] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:44] <gnomefreak> edan: let me bring mine up
[04:45] <gnomefreak> edan: ok with auto detect
[04:45] <edan> gnomefreak, ok its on nv now to put it on nvidia?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:46] <edan> gnomefreak,  to put how much memorey or just do enter>
[04:46] <ph8> Hi again, I still have the same problem. I'm running gnome, I want to edit files over sftp or scp in a way that when I save in the text-editor it overwrites the file (instead of saving then having to upload seperately) - gedit does fine for ftp:// but not sftp:// or scp:// - are there any plugins or other programs I can use?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> edan: leave it blank
[04:46] <ansinh> no sound :((
[04:47] <edan> gnomefreak, xkbrule set is xorg??
[04:47] <gnomefreak> edan: what?
[04:47] <pundai> why have g++ been updated
[04:47] <s|k> crimsun, I installed 11rc3 from source but now it's telling me 'could not open resource for writing' when trying to play a CD and sound isn't working
[04:47] <ansinh> i've reseted it via alsamixer....turn on the stereo downmix....
[04:47] <wevex> how do i echo the result of a command in shell script?
[04:47] <crimsun> ansinh: amixer output
[04:48] <crimsun> s|k: did you reboot?
[04:48] <s|k> oh
[04:48] <s|k> :P
[04:48] <edan> gnomefreak, at "please select the xkb rule set to use" = xorg
[04:48] <klaym> does anyone know a service where you could upload a ~40mb file for a limited time. I'm having trouble getting a file from a friend of mine who doesn't have access to any servers and xchat nor messenger sending doesn't work.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> edan: yes
[04:48] <IdleOne> klaym>  usendit.com
[04:48] <ansinh> u mean amixer -output?
[04:48] <klaym> idleone: thanks! I'll check that
[04:49] <edan> gnomefreak, what to writeat keyboard variant?
[04:49] <IdleOne> klaym>  he will email it to you then you download it from there
[04:49] <gnomefreak> edan: what are choices? or whats in there as answer?
[04:49] <oscar> Do someone speak Spanish?
[04:49] <Jowi> wevex: depends on the command. see if the external command's got a -verbose switch
[04:49] <ompaul> !es
[04:49] <javiolo> where are the logs of firestarter ?
[04:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:49] <ansinh> not work
[04:49] <gnomefreak> oscar: #ubuntu-es
[04:49] <javiolo> !es
[04:49] <ubuntu> ble
[04:49] <ubuntu> !es
[04:49] <oscar> #kubuntu-es
[04:49] <ansinh> unknown command, or ivalid option
[04:49] <edan> gnomefreak, blank and ther are no options
[04:49] <ubuntu> !en
[04:49] <ubotu> well, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[04:49] <ubuntu> !en
[04:50] <ubuntu> !es
[04:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> edan: hit enter than
[04:50] <ubuntu> fuck
[04:50] <klaym> Idleone: tried that too. I don't know, he's just screwing up
[04:50] <ubuntu> fuckers
[04:50] <gnomefreak> can you please stop playing with the bot in this channel
[04:50] <gnomefreak> !ops
[04:50] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ;)
[04:50] <edan> gnomefreak, change somthing in modules??
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ok edan what does it say i cant se eit
[04:50] <gnomefreak> see it
[04:51] <gnomefreak> sorry :(
[04:51] <ompaul> np
[04:51] <IdleOne> klaym>  if he cant email you a file there is a bigger problem then you think..you sure you want that file from him :)
[04:51] <edan> gnomefreak, Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default.
[04:51] <oscar> thank yo
[04:51] <Jowi> wevex: you can also do TEMPRESULT=$(command)
[04:51] <oscar> thank to everybody
[04:51] <klaym> idleone: yep, there's more than a software problem here
[04:51] <gnomefreak> edan: what kind of choices doies it give you
[04:51] <ubuntu29> word up dogg
[04:51] <oscar> #ubuntu-es
[04:51] <Jowi> wevex: then "echo $TEMPRESULT"
[04:52] <crimsun> ansinh: no, I mean the output from amixer, like you did before
[04:52] <ubuntu29> were my bitches at?
[04:52] <IdleOne> oscar>  escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <gnomefreak> oscar: type /j #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <vjHabib> hi!
[04:52] <oscar> join #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <ansinh> lol....sorry
[04:52] <IdleOne> con el /
[04:52] <gnomefreak> oscar: with the /
[04:52] <vjHabib> does any one know if breeze is sarge or etch?
[04:52] <LadyNikon> meh
[04:52] <LadyNikon> i give up
[04:52] <crimsun> vjHabib: neither.
[04:52] <gnomefreak> vjHabib: neither breezy is breezy
[04:52] <vjHabib> i having troubles with nerim mirrors
[04:53] <s|k> crimsun, worked thank you, I'll check out the source :)
[04:53] <LadyNikon> I try to join the normal #ubuntu channel to stop from being kicked k
[04:53] <LadyNikon> from this one.
[04:53] <LadyNikon> but eh.
[04:53] <vjHabib> what about nerim mirror/?
[04:53] <edan> gnomefreak, just a sec pls
[04:53] <crimsun> s|k: what "worked"?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> vjHabib: thats a debian mirror please do not use it with ubuntu
[04:53] <edan> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9820
[04:53] <vjHabib> ok
[04:53] <s|k> crimsun, the alsa upgrade
[04:53] <vjHabib> thanx gnomefreak
[04:53] <Kyral> LadyNikon: You have to Register with NickServ
[04:53] <crimsun> s|k: ok.
[04:53] <ompaul> !tell LadyNikon about register
[04:53] <s|k> crimsun, just out of curiousity what do you do?
[04:54] <ansinh> crimsun, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9821
[04:54] <crimsun> s|k: ?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> edan: is glx marked?
[04:54] <ompaul> LadyNikon, please check your message from ubotu
[04:54] <s|k> crimsun, are you a software programmer?
[04:54] <crimsun> s|k: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:54] <s|k> oh
[04:54] <s|k> :0
[04:54] <ompaul> !offtopic
[04:54] <ubotu> somebody said offtopic was Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:54] <Jowi> wevex: you can also put it like this ->        echo "$(ls $1)"         so when you type in "./myprog /home/wevex" it will output the result for the ls.
[04:54] <edan> gnomefreak, yes
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ok than continue
[04:55] <ompaul> s|k, go there and chat with the chattering classes :)
[04:55] <s|k> k
[04:55] <navaneeth> does anyone know how to turn off the service that synchronizes time with ntp.something at startup?by the way i did try using system>Administration>services.
[04:55] <javiolo> where are the logs of firestarter ?
[04:55] <crimsun> ansinh: you seem to have 'Mono' unmuted
[04:55] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: in the clock settings i think
[04:55] <edan> gnomefreak, Write default Files section to configuration file?
[04:55] <LadyNikon> ompaul: umm ?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> edan: yep
[04:56] <Jowi> navaneeth: ntpdate is the name.
[04:56] <ansinh> yes.....i should have it mute huh?
[04:56] <ompaul> LadyNikon, ubotu sent you a message please read it
[04:56] <LadyNikon> ompaul: I am already registered with nickserv :/
[04:56] <edan> gnomefreak, Write default DRI section to configuration file?
[04:56] <ompaul> ahh
[04:56] <gnomefreak> edan: yes i think so
[04:56] <navaneeth> where is the clock settings? i am running gnome.
[04:56] <ompaul> LadyNikon, so now identify
[04:56] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: right click the clock
[04:56] <gnomefreak> i think its adjust time and date
[04:57] <ompaul> LadyNikon, /msg nickserv identify [yourpasswordhere] 
[04:57] <edan> gnomefreak, ok its all done restart x?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> edan: yes
[04:57] <Jowi> navaneeth: "cd /etc/init.d" + "sudo update-rc.d ntpdate remove" or "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove"
[04:57] <gnomefreak> edan: nop
[04:57] <LadyNikon> ompaul: i am identied ...
[04:57] <LadyNikon> ompaul: thats why im a like O.O
[04:57] <Jowi> navaneeth: that will delete it from boot
[04:58] <foxpaul> any ideas why i'm banned from the channel at home (i'm on the blueyonder broadband service)
[04:58] <ompaul> LadyNikon, well it has you as i= not n= which is strange
[04:58] <LadyNikon> ompaul: its freenode.. lemme see if i got recycled again...
[04:59] <LadyNikon> ompaul: 10:59 [ircnet2]  [msg(nickserv)]  id trustno1
[04:59] <LadyNikon> 10:59 [ircnet2]  -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You have already identified
[04:59] <ompaul> foxpaul, what nick do you use here?
[04:59] <LadyNikon> fack
[04:59] <edan> gnomefreak, im back :)
[04:59] <fly-away> hi all
[04:59] <gnomefreak> edan: run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable restart X after
[04:59] <Firefox> hi
[04:59] <foxpaul> ompaul, same as this, or sometimies olicat
[05:00] <Firefox> big troubles
[05:00] <foxpaul> ompaul, someone in #help said the whole blueyonder isp was banned?
[05:00] <NET||abuse> is there a problem with amarok playing mp3 files? bloody thing just flashes on the mp3 for a second, then says playlist finished???
[05:00] <Firefox> i cant doing something
[05:00] <fly-away> i use gnome in ubuntu and i cant bind keyboard shortcut with Win (Super_L) key
[05:00] <Amaranth> NET||abuse: enable multiverse and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:01] <Jowi> Firefox: you need to be a bit more precise
[05:01] <LadyNikon> guess i needed a new password anyways :/
[05:01] <NET||abuse> Amaranth: ahhhhh, gstreamer plugins, ok.
[05:01] <Firefox> cant install modem
[05:01] <LadyNikon> ompaul: i guess freenode just doesnt like me ;)
[05:01] <Firefox> cause his so fucking
[05:01] <fly-away> dudes! help me ^)
[05:01] <Firefox> stupid xmms cant install
[05:01] <edan> gnomefreak, back again
[05:02] <ompaul> foxpaul, that is correct, let me get you where to talk to
[05:02] <gnomefreak> edan: run glxgears -printfps
[05:02] <IdleOne> !tell Firefox  about coc
[05:02] <Jowi> Firefox: still not enough info. if you say what type of modem (dsl, dial-up) and brand maybe someone can help you out...
[05:02] <IdleOne> !tell Firefox  about xmms
[05:02] <thomd> !dvd
[05:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:02] <IdleOne> !tell Firefox  about enter
[05:02] <fly-away> gnome-keybinding-properties dont understand Super_L as part of keybindings, only as usually key like as A, B )
[05:02] <edan> gnomefreak, still its the same....
[05:02] <Firefox> ACOTP USB SPRINTER@ADSL
[05:02] <Firefox> ACORP
[05:03] <Firefox> cant detcted
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Firefox: please unlock the caps key
[05:03] <Firefox> detected
[05:03] <Jowi> Firefox: did you try to type in "sudo pppoeconf" and set it up that way?
[05:03] <Firefox> ppoeconf not detect
[05:03] <Firefox> him
[05:03] <highvoltage> Firefox: why do you keep changing tabs if i scroll too fast?
[05:03] <NET||abuse> Amaranth: what about just installing gstreamer-0.8plugins and get everything
[05:03] <Amaranth> NET||abuse: you can do that
[05:04] <Firefox> this modem so fucking
[05:04] <NET||abuse> :) grand so :)
[05:04] <NET||abuse> done
[05:04] <Amaranth> Firefox: language
[05:04] <tristanmike> Firefox, please watch the language in this channel
[05:04] <hollandlucas> Hi everyone!
[05:04] <Firefox> what?
[05:04] <highvoltage> Firefox: hey, whatch that language on the ubuntu channels!
[05:04] <Amaranth> NET||abuse: as long as it got the mad plugin mp3 should work
[05:04] <Firefox> nax?
[05:04] <fly-away> Firefox, matom ne ori, balda
[05:05] <Firefox> da ny eshe
[05:05] <Firefox> ubus ob stenu poidu
[05:05] <Firefox> $$$LInux$$$
[05:05] <fly-away> idi
[05:05] <Firefox> zzz
[05:05] <Jowi> !usbadslmodem
[05:05] <ubotu> Jowi: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:05] <chris_> hey, i need help running counter-strike on linux
[05:05] <Firefox> try try
[05:05] <Firefox> toka traff slivat
[05:05] <Firefox> try
[05:05] <Jowi> Firefox: try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem
[05:05] <chris_> i need a decent erm emulating program for free
[05:05] <edan> gnomefreak, anything else 2 do?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  you mean wine, and/or cedega eh?
[05:06] <gnomefreak> edan: i would try to start over im not real sure what else to do
[05:06] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you still here?
[05:06] <Firefox> omgmgmg
[05:06] <chris_> Dr_Willis, wine keeps hanging
[05:06] <Firefox> recompile kernel
[05:06] <OmniColos> I've never seen an "erm" system or an emulator for such a beast
[05:06] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes
[05:06] <navaneeth_> sorry.something weird happened.when i tried the command i get this"update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[05:06] <navaneeth_> "
[05:07] <gnomefreak> can i just use the reply button for lists?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  could update to the latest wine.
[05:07] <edan> gnomefreak, nvidia settings are working....
[05:07] <Jowi> navaneeth_: "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove"
[05:07] <chris_> how would i do that?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> edan: you have 3d accel?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  go to the wine homepage, download./compile the latest and greatest... or break down and buy cedega
[05:07] <edan> gnomefreak, but no game or enything else work
[05:07] <chris_> okay
[05:07] <chris_> thnaks
[05:08] <edan> gnomefreak, whats 3d accel?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> edan: what happens when you typ glxgears -printfps?
[05:08] <ompaul> foxpaul, I'll look after that in a little while
[05:08] <foxpaul> ompaul, cheers
[05:09] <edan> gnomefreak, still the same error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:09] <navaneeth_> i will reboot and let you know.bye.
[05:09] <edan> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:09] <ompaul> foxpaul, how long is it since you can't get in?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrr
[05:09] <ompaul> gnomefreak, sup? I am here
[05:09] <gnomefreak> edan: im not sure what is going on
[05:09] <foxpaul> ompaul, only noticed early last week
[05:09] <gnomefreak> ompaul: with the digest mail can i just use the reply button?
[05:09] <edan> gnomefreak, ..... that maks to of use
[05:10] <edan> two*
[05:10] <gnomefreak> edan: run sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[05:10] <ompaul> don't you will send it all back - and it is not useful as it is not in the correct thread
[05:10] <tristanmike> edan, what kind of video card do you have?
[05:11] <edan> gnomefreak, gforce 4 mx 440
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ok ty
[05:11] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: ^^^
[05:11] <edan> gnomefreak, did the command...
[05:11] <silas> how to install code generation tools ?
[05:11] <ansinh> hey....i've found alsa driver on the CD come with my mainboard
[05:11] <chris_> has anyone here had counter-strike working on ubuntu?
[05:11] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, shouldn't he be using the "legacy" drivers?
[05:11] <silas> like gcc gcj etc ?
[05:11] <crimsun> ansinh: did you ever get sound working?
[05:12] <Agrajag> silas: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:12] <Ng> chris_: I've had CS:Source working with cedega
[05:12] <chris_> umm
[05:12] <ansinh> yes....once
[05:12] <chris_> i think i might *buy* that
[05:12] <instabin> !partition
[05:12] <ubotu> instabin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <chris_> im trialing atm
[05:12] <ansinh> once i heard the sound in the login screen
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Theres proberly several wine forums/web sites that detail problems with CS and wine
[05:12] <chris_> when it downloads
[05:12] <instabin> what are partition utils
[05:12] <instabin> or the comands to make partiotns
[05:12] <crimsun> ansinh: you only have one sound chipset, correct?
[05:12] <Ng> chris_: I'd say it's probably the easiest way to make it work
[05:12] <chris_> ng, u had to install steam?
[05:12] <instabin> and view them
[05:12] <tristanmike> instabin, gparted
[05:12] <ansinh> yes
[05:13] <instabin> i installed steam under cedega
[05:13] <chris_> oh okay
[05:13] <crimsun> ansinh: have you tried a snapshot of alsa-driver?
[05:13] <chris_> lolz
[05:13] <ansinh> snapshot?
[05:13] <tristanmike> instabin, you can view mounted partition with Disks System-Admin-Disks
[05:13] <instabin> gparted is not working
[05:13] <ansinh> please tell my what a snapshot is
[05:14] <ansinh> me
[05:14] <instabin> i want the edit some partitions
[05:14] <tristanmike> instabin, what do you mean by "not working" ?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> ansinh: its a picture (more than likely here it would be a screenshot
[05:14] <gnomefreak> )
[05:14] <instabin> says command not found
[05:14] <instabin> typed sudo gparted
[05:14] <silas>  how about mp3 ?
[05:14] <Thug-N-Me> anyone using ipod in ubuntu ?
[05:14] <tristanmike> instabin, you did install it, right?
[05:14] <ParaSiteX> I want to buy a PCMCIA wlan card for my acer notebook. I just don't know which one to buy, since it sould be compatible to my ubuntu system. any suggestions which one I should buy? (should be about 60  at most)
[05:14] <gnomefreak> what about mp3?
[05:15] <instabin> install ?
[05:15] <ansinh> i don't understand.....how can i use that picture? show it to you?
[05:15] <crimsun> ansinh: no, what you need to do is check out a cvs snapshot of alsa-driver & alsa-kernel
[05:15] <gnomefreak> student was one of the exploiters :(
[05:15] <instabin>  installing now
[05:15] <tristanmike> instabin, sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:15] <silas> gnomefreak: playing mp3 songs , how do I do that ?
[05:15] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, yeah
[05:15] <jakl> hi, ever since i installed ubuntu, i have an error that pops up every time i reboot, about the keyboard i think (i wasn<t able to change the language)
[05:15] <tristanmike> instabin, your quick, lol :P
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell silas about mp3
[05:15] <jakl> has this happened to anyone^
[05:15] <navaneeth_> Thanks it worked.But can you help me with this too?i have 5 partitions on my hard disk but i can view files of only one,the one on which ubuntu was installed.I tried using system>administration>disks but they asked for an access path.When i gave them my home directory the system crashed.My first ever experience with linux crashing.
[05:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, true, but a nick like that is kinda generic
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ompaul: true
[05:16] <ansinh> sorry.....can you tell me how to do it, step by step please
[05:16] <gean> question, PLEASE : partitioning : how can i enlarge my working partition without [backup all, format all, edit new partition table]  ?! Does gparted work for this purpose ?!
[05:16] <Jowi> ParaSiteX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:16] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul how do you copy files ?  copy paste ?
[05:16] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, did you fix that video card problem?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ansinh: useing gnome?
[05:16] <ompaul> the ubugtu is still on duty
[05:16] <ansinh> yes
[05:16] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, what software are you using?
[05:16] <hollandlucas> ubotu tell hollandlucas about ubuntu
[05:16] <Ashims> Yo. Does anyone know why when I try to copy something to a usb drive, half the time it says its there until I unplug it, and then its gone?
[05:16] <instabin> it is not showing sda
[05:16] <ParaSiteX> Jowi: ok thanx
[05:16] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me,  and do you mean music files/mp3's ?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: i dont think so last i had him do was remove nvidia-glx was gonna have him start over
[05:17] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul none :)) i just open the directory /media/ipod and drag files in there ?
[05:17] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, I think he should be using the Legacy Drivers
[05:17] <instabin> gparted is not showing my sda bla bla drives
[05:17] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul yes music files
[05:17] <gnomefreak> ansinh: system>take screenshot
[05:17] <instabin> its sownig my ide but not sata
[05:17] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: maybe i dont know how old that card is
[05:17] <Ashims> ???
[05:17] <crimsun> ansinh: install cvs, then  cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/alsa login &&  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/alsa co alsa-kernel alsa-driver
[05:17] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, no that wont work i'm afraid. the ipod doesn't read the mp3 files directly. itunes for example, when you add a song to your ipod will update a database which is stored on the ipod, and thats where the device 'sees' its music
[05:17] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, gforce 4 mx 440
[05:18] <Printer> Hey all.
[05:18] <navaneeth_> Thanks it worked.But can you help me with this too?i have 5 partitions on my hard disk but i can view files of only one,the one on which ubuntu was installed.I tried using system>administration>disks but they asked for an access path.When i gave them my home directory the system crashed.My first ever experience with linux crashing.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: yeah i know the card just dont know about it :(
[05:18] <crimsun> ansinh: then follow the instructions in INSTALL to create the symlinks for alsa-kernel
[05:18] <gean> Ashims : make sere u mount and unmount devices correctly... i always use nautilus, but also in that case it crashes or gets confused and infinitely busy...
[05:18] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul right , so what software  do i have to use ?
[05:18] <nickrud> Ashims, writing to a device is often deferred, you need to unmount the device first, to force an files to complete writing
[05:18] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, gtkpod (which is in universe) or banshee (http://www.banshee-project.org - there's an ubuntu repository under the 'getting started' link)
[05:18] <gnomefreak> edan: go to nvidia site and grab the legicy drivers please
[05:18] <nickrud> eriklo, force *all files
[05:18] <instabin> does gparted support lvm
[05:18] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, why not use the ones in the repos?
[05:18] <murray__> ubot listvals firefox
[05:19] <murray__> bah
[05:19] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: didnt know about them
[05:19] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, ;)
[05:19] <edan> gnomefreak,  legicy drivers?
[05:19] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, nvidia rocks
[05:19] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: can you get him them?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> yes it does
[05:19] <murray__> ubotu listvals firefox
[05:19] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'firefox' by value (11 shown): ff-save-err ;; replactotem #DEL# ;; javappc ;; firefox ;; thunderbird ;; firefox15 ;; firefox1.5 ;; replacetotem ;; ff1.5 ;; firefox-qt ;; firefoxplugins.
[05:19] <instabin> yes it does i have 6800gt
[05:19] <ansinh> ok..doing it right now
[05:19] <tristanmike> edan, use synaptic, search "nvidia"
[05:20] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul thanks a lot man ... what ipod have you got ?
[05:20] <Printer> Can I resume downloading a torrent with the default setup of dapper.   I had to restart but when I start 'gnome-btdownloaded ' none of my downloads came up.
[05:20] <edan> gnomefreak, k
[05:20] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, 2gb nano :)
[05:20] <navaneeth_> can anyone help me with this ?i have 5 partitions on my hard disk but i can view files of only one,the one on which ubuntu was installed.I tried using system>administration>disks but they asked for an access path.When i gave them my home directory the system crashed.My first ever experience with linux crashing.
[05:20] <gnomefreak> edan: tristanmike is helping you now not me
[05:20] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul same here :))
[05:20] <geek|sauce> how can i make it so my trash icon is on my desktop instead of on the panel?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Printer,  gnome-btdownload - is rather basic torrent client. may want to try out some of the alternatives
[05:20] <hollandlucas> are those partitions ntf
[05:20] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, nice little toys eh
[05:20] <hollandlucas> s
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> geek|sauce,  eww. :) heh - i perfer it int he panel.
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ill be here if any questions arise for either of you (if i know the answer)
[05:21] <edan> tristanmike, hi
[05:21] <passantino> hallo jemand da aus deuschland
[05:21] <tristanmike> edan, hi
[05:21] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul yeah ... but listen . are you using the same software for pictures and stuff ?
[05:21] <navaneeth_> can anyone help me with this ?i have 5 partitions on my hard disk but i can view files of only one,the one on which ubuntu was installed.I tried using system>administration>disks but they asked for an access path.When i gave them my home directory the system crashed.My first ever experience with linux crashing.
[05:21] <ompaul> !de
[05:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:21] <ansinh> crimsun, i do the first command and it asks for CVS password
[05:21] <crimsun> ansinh: press enter
[05:21] <tristanmike> edan, you are simply trying to install the video card drivers?
[05:21] <hollandlucas> navaneeth_, are those partitions ntfs formated
[05:21] <passantino> danke
[05:21] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, I use banshee, which does music only. gtkpod does the files, photo's thing - but its ui isn't very nice
[05:21] <ompaul> bitte
[05:21] <instabin> what is /dev/mapper/*
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> navaneeth_,  access path = /media/placetoshowthem  (i think) NOT /home/username
[05:22] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul what ? if its gui its not very nice ? :)
[05:22] <geek|sauce> dr_willis: it's alright i guess, but i just don't like having two panels
[05:22] <power1> Any1 here ever succesfully run vmware 5.5 on ubuntu 5.1 on a centrino laptop sharing the wifi lan connection
[05:22] <ubuntunoob> What's the best itunes-like program for linux?
[05:22] <edan> tristanmike, no i allready did that but my glx dosnt work
[05:22] <navaneeth_> i installed ubuntu after i had winXp.Guessing FAT or something.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> geek|sauce,  2 panels? ya mean the top and bottom?
[05:22] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, aye, its gui isn't nice - but banshee's is
[05:22] <geek|sauce> dr_willis: yeah
[05:22] <ansinh> crimsun, it warned me "failed to open /home/ansinh/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory"
[05:22] <crimsun> ansinh: ignore that
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> geek|sauce,  you rget used to it. :P of course ya can always close one down and move all the stuff to the other.
[05:23] <tristanmike> edan, click System-Help
[05:23] <edan> tristanmike, and all the glx pkgs are installed
[05:23] <edan> tristanmike, ok
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Linux  "Your computer Your Way"
[05:23] <tristanmike> edan, ok, when that's open Select the Starter Guide
[05:23] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul  banshee
[05:23] <Thug-N-Me>  doesnt even start
[05:24] <ubuntunoob> itunes type program for linux - any recomendations?
[05:24] <hollandlucas> amaroK
[05:24] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, have you installed it from the repository on the banshee-project homepage? the version included in breezy doesn't work with ipod's
[05:24] <geek|sauce> how can i change the default res for the login screen?
[05:24] <tristanmike> edan, then select "Hardware" on the left hand side...
[05:25] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul  deb http://apt.filefind.net/ breezy main contrib non-free   from here
[05:25] <montag-server> Does anyone here have some experience with ubuntu and wireless?
[05:25] <IdleOne> !wireless
[05:25] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:25] <ansinh> crimsun, i've done the second command....what's next?
[05:25] <edan> tristanmike, did that
[05:25] <montag-server> er
[05:25] <montag-server> well, perhaps I should be more specific
[05:25] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul i add that line to sources.list , and then apt-get update and after install it
[05:25] <montag-server> on how to use make
[05:25] <hollandlucas> geekIsauce, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=454217
[05:25] <tristanmike> edan, ok, did you install both "nvidia-glx" and "nvidia-settings" ?
[05:25] <Guardian> hello
[05:25] <crimsun> ansinh: follow the directions in INSTALL for cvs, specifically creating the alsa-kernel symlinks
[05:25] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, and you did "apt-get update ; apt-get install banshee" after putting that line in your apt.sources?
[05:25] <IdleOne> montag-server>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:25] <edan> tristanmike, yep
[05:26] <Guardian> what's the name of the libc package ? just noticed that i have nothing in my /usr/include :(
[05:26] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul yeah
[05:26] <tristanmike> edan, ok, did you create the new file like in Step 4 ?
[05:26] <IdleOne> montag-server>  then type man make for help pages
[05:26] <crimsun> Guardian: libc6 is the equivalent of other distros' glibc
[05:26] <silas> hi
[05:26] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, what does "apt-cache search banshee" say?
[05:26] <edan> tristanmike, yes
[05:26] <montag-server> does build-essential cover Airlink101 wireless USB adapters?
[05:26] <hollandlucas> hi silas
[05:26] <silas> !paste
[05:26] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[05:26] <IdleOne> montag-server>  I have no clue
[05:26] <montag-server> yeah...
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> build-essential - just installs the core C development tools.
[05:26] <montag-server> no one does
[05:26] <montag-server> :-(
[05:26] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul banshee - Audio Managment and Playback application
[05:27] <tristanmike> edan, so according to the "Hardware" help, you completed steps 1-4 as it is shown there?
[05:27] <Guardian> crimsun : ok so it seems that i miss libc6-dev
[05:27] <foxpaul> urgh no version info
[05:27] <montag-server> any place to go that has steps on using ndiswrapper?
[05:27] <montag-server> w/ ubuntu in specific?
[05:27] <ansinh> don't understand....how can I install it?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> !ndiswrapper
[05:27] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:27] <ansinh> and install what?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> montag-server,  the ubuntu wiki - would be stop #1
[05:27] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, try starting it from a terminal and try to fix its error. failing that, upgrade to a newer banshee (building it and its deps from sources) or try rhythmbox
[05:27] <crimsun> ansinh: read the INSTALL file
[05:27] <montag-server> thanks
[05:27] <edan> tristanmike, no sudo nvidia-glx-config enable dosnt work
[05:28] <hollandlucas> cya guys gotta go have fun rule the day
[05:28] <crimsun> ansinh: you need to compile the newest drivers that you just checked out from cvs. That file gives you instructions.
[05:28] <edan> tristanmike, 2 show you the error??
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> The ubuntu wiki - Everyones First stop for all your Ubuntu Questions! :p
[05:28] <tristanmike> edan, so you're stuck at step 3 then....
[05:28] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul http://pastebin.com/589096 have a look at the error please
[05:29] <edan> tristanmike, so it seems
[05:29] <tristanmike> edan, could you please paste, on pastebin of course, your xorg.conf file ?
[05:29] <ansinh> god....sorry for my stupidity, but where is the install file?
[05:29] <crimsun> ansinh: inside alsa-driver
[05:29] <edan> tristanmike, just 1 sec pls
[05:29] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist.    there is only /media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/firsttime   any ideea about this ?
[05:29] <tristanmike> edan, of course :)
[05:30] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul im trying gtkpod now
[05:30] <edan> tristanmike,  how do i enter to pestebin?
[05:30] <Fawzib> I tried to compile winbind and its giving me compile errors. I did 'apt-get source winbind' and then dpkg-buildpackage and it is giving me an error 'last_name_raw_len undeclared (first use in this function)'
[05:30] <tristanmike> edan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:30] <edan> tristanmike, thanks
[05:30] <silas> how to I uncomment lines in sourece.list ?
[05:30] <tristanmike> edan, anytime
[05:31] <IdleOne> silas>  put # in front of line
[05:31] <IdleOne> silas>  uncomment remove # from line
[05:31] <silas> here is my sources.list , can someone tell me how to enable universer multiverse ?
[05:31] <silas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9822
[05:31] <wevex> what dose "unary operator expected" mean? the program works but i dont want that stupid text <-- shell script
[05:31] <foxpaul> Thug-N-Me, ahh, that looks like it's a 'fresh' ipod. gtkpod will let you format it and create the initial database - banshee should work then
[05:31] <silas> IdleOne: so I shud removed any instance of a # before the line to uncomment it ?
[05:31] <IdleOne> !tell silas about repos
[05:32] <silas> IdleOne: i am doing the same
[05:32] <silas> following that instructions
[05:32] <tristanmike> silas, yes, remove the #
[05:32] <tristanmike> silas, but.....
[05:32] <Stormtrooper> guys, a good command line torrent client?
[05:32] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul aint then
[05:32] <yosef> I can't install msttcorefonts, advice anyone?
[05:32] <IdleOne> he wants to enabl  multiverse removing # wont do it
[05:32] <silas> tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9822
[05:32] <edan> tristanmike, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9823
[05:32] <Fawzib> could anyone try to compile the winbind package to see if it's me or the source package?
[05:32] <tristanmike> silas, I'd use Synaptic and go into the Settings under Repositories and select "Show disabled software sources"
[05:34] <ConfidentiaL> how do I change boot priority in gnome boot manager?
[05:35] <yosef> can anyone help me installing ms fonts?
[05:35] <tristanmike> edan, and what's the error you get when you run it?
[05:35] <tristanmike> yosef, are they not in the repos anymore?
[05:36] <yosef> tristanmike the package fails
[05:36] <ConfidentiaL> how do I change boot priority in gnome boot manager?
[05:36] <Dan_> !root
[05:36] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:36] <yosef> tristanmike when it tries downloading... it fails
[05:36] <tristanmike> yosef, when I installed them, it went to sourceforge.net to grab them, and it did fail from time to time, I just ran it later and it worked, does it try to go to sourceforge?
[05:37] <yosef> this package exists in sourceforge (for ubuntu)?
[05:37] <edan> tristanmike, he says cammand not founed but i think its becouse i uninstalled it with gnomefreak ...
[05:37] <tristanmike> edan, are we fresh then?
[05:37] <grogoreo_> join #wtfbooktruck
[05:37] <Amaranth> gnome bug 313268
[05:37] <wevex> if a input like $1 is empty is there someway to "lable that"? like if $1=NULL or something? (shell script)
[05:37] <edan> tristanmike, think so...
[05:37] <Jonnings> Where can i get the correct Java runtime environment for ubuntu?
[05:37] <tristanmike> ok, lets start over, one step at a time
[05:37] <ansinh> crimsun, i tell me to use ./configure' script, but i don't know how to run it
[05:37] <Amaranth> hmm, Ubugtu doesn't work here
[05:37] <tristanmike> edan, ok, lets start over, one step at a time
[05:38] <edan> tristanmike, ok :)
[05:38] <Bean> Is there a way to make the eject button on my dvd drive work?
[05:38] <tristanmike> edan, I'd suggest logging out and logging back in to clear everything that you've done
[05:38] <tristanmike> edan, or even a restart
[05:38] <thrice`> Bean, sure, push it
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Bean,  if the drive is mounted - it wont eject. its that simple
[05:38] <Jowi> wevex: if $1 = ""
[05:39] <edan> tristanmike, ok ill be right back
[05:39] <Bean> Thanks Dr_Willis
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Bean,  right click on the cd icon and umount it, it may even have an eject menu option as well
[05:39] <ansinh> hey crimsun , are you still there?
[05:39] <tristanmike> yosef, how's it going with the fonts?
[05:40] <power1> Any1 here ever succesfully run vmware 5.5 on ubuntu 5.1 on a centrino laptop sharing the wifi lan connection
[05:40] <Bean> Dr_Willis, yeah I know how to do that, just wish I could do it by pressing the button on the drive.
[05:40] <Jowi> wevex: if $1 = ""; then (new line) do thi (new line) fi
[05:40] <yosef> tristanmike, sourceforge is very very slow, gimme a sec, i'll let you know
[05:40] <Jowi> thi = this
[05:40] <Bean> Dr_Willis, do you know if the button on the drive sends any signal to the OS ? Or is detectable somehow? Then it could be easily scripted to umount right?
[05:41] <Jowi> wevex: if $1 = ""; then (new line) echo "no argument given" (new line) fi
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bean,  the problem will be - it WONT unmount - if a program is accessing the drive/dir
[05:41] <wevex> Jowi: dosnt seam to work
[05:42] <Jowi> wevex: OR: if $1 = ""; then (new line) echo "no argument given" (new line) else (new line) echo "you typed $1" (new line) fi
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Bean,  theres also a way (obscure) to make the thing auto eject when unmoubnted
[05:42] <Jowi> wevex: let me try it
[05:42] <thrice`> Bean, have you tried the umount command?
[05:42] <thrice`> umount /dev/dvd, for example
[05:42] <Fawzib> jowi: is it if $1=""  or if "$1"="" ?
[05:42] <thrice`> or even eject /dev/dvd
[05:42] <Toba> you don't do umount on devices I don't think
[05:43] <Toba> you do it on the mountpoint, right?
[05:43] <Bean> Dr_Willis, just realized that it only does it with some discs. Weird.
[05:43] <thrice`> either one
[05:43] <Toba> ah, didn't know that
[05:43] <Bean> Dr_Willis, I thought it did it with all of them. But for example a blank disc the eject button works on the drive.
[05:43] <thrice`> Bean, becuase there is nothing to mount
[05:44] <Jowi> Fawzib: depends on how your "if" statement look
[05:44] <wevex> Jowi: i want it to break if there is no inputs so i have: if [ $1 = "" ]  (new line) then (new line) exit
[05:44] <yosef> tristanmike connection with sourceforge keeps timing out...  what to do?
[05:44] <Jowi> wevex: maybe $1 is not initialized if there is nothing there....
[05:44] <crimsun> ansinh: did you generate it using the instructions in INSTALL?
[05:44] <Toba> hrm, is there a better way to switch user than lock screen / click switch user?
[05:44] <Toba> I don't see one :(
[05:45] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul right , works fine do you use any mp3 converter to make it smaller ?
[05:45] <gimmulf_> !flash
[05:45] <ubotu> somebody said flash was installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Toba: on breezy, gdmflexiserver
[05:45] <tristanmike> yosef, you can wait, or do a search on google for "msttcorefonts.tar.gz" and download yourself
[05:45] <Toba> thoreauputic: o.o
[05:45] <wevex> Jowi: lets take it priv.. its so mutch to write
[05:45] <Fawzib> can anyone give me a hand compiling the winbind package?
[05:45] <thrice`> what's the error, Fawzib
[05:46] <yosef> tristanmike, thanks..
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Toba: just type gdmflexiserver - it's in the applications - system menu as well
[05:46] <Toba> k
[05:46] <tristanmike> yosef, I didn't do anything, but your welcome :-)
[05:46] <Toran> Hey guys, I just got a five-button mouse. How can I reconfigure X to use all the buttons?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Toba: on breezy, that is - "New Login" or something - I'm in fluxbox atm
[05:46] <IdleOne> !mouse
[05:46] <ubotu> it has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[05:46] <Fawzib> i did 'apt-get source winbind' then 'dpkg-buildpackage' and it is givimg me a compile error, but don't know if its me or the source (probably me)
[05:46] <Toran> fluxbox ftw
[05:46] <edward0> Fawzib: apt-cache search winbind
[05:47] <edward0> so you already know it is there k :D
[05:47] <ph8> Hi again, I still have the same problem. I'm running gnome, I want to edit files over sftp or scp in a way that when I save in the text-editor it overwrites the file (instead of saving then having to upload seperately) - gedit does fine for ftp:// but not sftp:// or scp:// - are there any plugins or other programs I can use?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Toran: ftw ? what's that? an acronym?
[05:47] <Toran> For The Win
[05:47] <Toba> thoreauputic: for the win
[05:47] <Toran> It means that I like fluxbox.
[05:47] <thoreauputic> ah thanks :)
[05:47] <Fawzib> I need and option that is not compiled by default (--with-idmap)
[05:47] <Toran> lol
[05:47] <Toran> (Laugh Out Loud)
[05:48] <Toran> Gah, I really need to stop using acronyms
[05:48] <cill|> hello can someone help me ? how do I get DC++ on ubuntu ?
[05:48] <Toba> Toran: that's just being mean
[05:48] <Toba> heh
[05:48] <Toran> Hehe
[05:48] <Toba> everyone knows what lol means
[05:48] <Fawzib> but wanted to know if it compiled before starting changing stuff
[05:48] <Toba> lol
[05:48] <Bean> Toran, is it a logitech?
[05:48] <Toran> Micro$oft
[05:48] <Toba> cill|: install valknut
[05:48] <Toran> I actually prefer Microsoft peripherals
[05:48] <Toba> apt-get install valknut
[05:48] <tristanmike> yuk
[05:48] <Toran> At least, this mouse is hot.
[05:49] <cill|> ok thank you
[05:49] <kenas> muy buenas
[05:49] <Toba> np.
[05:49] <kenas> queria hacer una pregunta
[05:49] <highvoltage> ew @ microsoft keyboard
[05:49] <Toba> english please, kenas
[05:49] <Toran> I don't use a microsoft keyboard
[05:49] <IdleOne> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:49] <kenas> me acabo de descargar un archivo *.tar.gz
[05:49] <tristanmike> highvoltage, I feel shameful
[05:49] <Toran> I use a Happy Hacker keyboard ;-)
[05:49] <kenas> como lo instalo ?
[05:49] <Toran> It's glorious
[05:49] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:49] <ubotu> from memory, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:49] <thoreauputic> kenas: English please
[05:49] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:49] <IdleOne> kenas escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:49] <kenas> sorry
[05:49] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:49] <Bean> Toran, one of those guides uboto linked you to should work.
[05:49] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:50] <Toran> Thanks
[05:50] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:50] <IdleOne> kenas>  de nada amigo
[05:50] <Toba> Marsmensch: stop that
[05:50] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:50] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: aha! hey, congrats, man!
[05:50] <Marsmensch> bla2
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: and ops as well ?
[05:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, thanks
[05:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, I got that first ....
[05:50] <Bean> Toran, I used the logitech guide in the forums but I have a logitech. It worked flawlessly and easily. I recall that it shoudl work just as well with non logitech mice as long as you change appropriate names.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you are now an official member of the thought police ;-)
[05:50] <Jowi> wevex: do you get my msgs?
[05:51] <mohit> hey i jst installed ubuntu ...... can nebody help me?
[05:51] <ompaul> thoreauputic, <rather large grin>
[05:51] <IdleOne> mohit>  we can try whats up?
[05:51] <mohit> how to install more packages
[05:51] <kenas> hi every1
[05:51] <thrice`> !repos
[05:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:51] <IdleOne> !tell mohit  about repos
[05:51] <ompaul> aye
[05:51] <mohit> till now everything is fine
[05:51] <kenas> i have just downloaded a file *.tar.gz i would like to know how to install this file
[05:52] <thrice`> mohit, first, follow that link to enable repos; then, you will have alot of packages available to you for insatllation
[05:52] <Kyral> mohit: It helps if you ask a question, we may be Geek Heros (hehe) but we ain't psychic :D
[05:52] <edan> tristanmike, ssry i had a little xserver error
[05:52] <Kyral> kenas: what program?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> kenas: what is the file? Is it a program? If so, what?
[05:52] <IdleOne> kenas>  tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[05:52] <Kyral> kenas: Just wanna make sure you don't have to the compile dance if you don't have to
[05:52] <kenas> OpenXpertya i have not founded any repository of this
[05:52] <IdleOne> kenas>  what file?
[05:53] <ConfidentiaL> how do I change boot priority in gnome boot manager?
[05:53] <Kyral> kenas: Welcome to old school then :D
[05:53] <mohit> what is repos ???
[05:53] <Kyral> kenas: tar -zxvf <filename>
[05:53] <mohit> can u giv me the link
[05:53] <kenas> k i will try now..
[05:53] <edan> tristanmike, ill think ill take of i need 2 go but thnx for your help
[05:53] <IdleOne> mohit>  repos are repositories where you can download and install new packages
[05:53] <ansinh> sorry crimsun for late reply (had to go for a while, now i'm back).....generate the ./configure script? in INSTALL there is no instructions for generate it
[05:53] <Kyral> kenas: then read the README and INSTALL files
[05:53] <thrice`> mohit, yes, ubotu just provided you one
[05:53] <ompaul> ConfidentiaL, care to elaborate about what you want to achieve your question does not make too sence
[05:54] <Kyral> kenas: for additions to the standard ./configure && make && sudo make install dance
[05:54] <Kyral> kenas: Be prepared to run it multiple times in case you don't have the Dependencies
[05:54] <ompaul> ConfidentiaL, boot priority? other programs or gnome or something else?
[05:55] <Kyral> kenas: the configure script will tell you (with something like "you don't have foo installed") and then search for it with apt-cache search
[05:55] <wevex> is there any easy way to list all executable files in a folder? (like a flag for ls) or something?
[05:55] <Kyral> kenas: Then install it :P Though most often you want the package ending in -dev
[05:55] <Kyral> wevex: ls' standard coloring makes them green
[05:55] <Kyral> and with an * on the name
[05:56] <kenas> package comes with instalar.sh
[05:56] <Bean> In the Evolution mail client, what does the setting "Automatically synchronize remote mail locally" mean?
[05:56] <Bean> I'm using IMAP
[05:56] <ConfidentiaL> I want my windows to be boot priority no 1... ompaul
[05:56] <wevex> Kyral: there is no way to just list only them?
[05:56] <Ng> Bean: that means it will automatically download all the mails locally instead of just the headers
[05:56] <Kyral> wevex: ls | grep *?
[05:56] <Bean> Thanks Ng
[05:56] <Kyral> if it shows execs with an * that is
[05:56] <silas> tristanmike: wher is the fsatb file ?
[05:57] <Bean> ConfidentiaL, it's really simple, just need to change the GRUB config file, lemme find the wiki entry
[05:57] <silas> fstab file ?
[05:57] <tristanmike> silas, /etc/fstab
[05:57] <Kyral> silas: /etc/fstab
[05:57] <silas> thanks
[05:57] <wevex> Kyral: i will try it, thanks
[05:57] <gabinete> oi
[05:58] <Jowi> wevex: did you get my messages?
[05:58] <Bean> ConfidentiaL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS?highlight=%28grub%29
[05:58] <chris_> hey im having trouble installing wine from dpkg
[05:58] <thoreauputic> !wine
[05:58] <ompaul> ConfidentiaL, so >>sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and there is a number there beside the word "Default" that indicates what record works first it says 0 that is the first one and the then 1 is the resuce mode count down to the stanza for Windows
[05:59] <thoreauputic> !tell chris_ about wine
[05:59] <Kyral> and I need lunch/breakfast
[05:59] <cill|> instaling dc++ with apt-get install valknut didn't work ... what should I do ?
[05:59] <ConfidentiaL> thx ;)
[05:59] <thrice`> cill|, what do you mean, doesn't work?
[05:59] <ompaul> ConfidentiaL, if it fails you press escape and navigate to something else
[06:00] <silas> hey how do I use umask so that I can read / write my windows files by default ?
[06:00] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[06:00] <ubotu> well, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[06:00] <silas> it is already mounted into the media
[06:00] <cill|> it didn't get access
[06:00] <Bean> ConfidentiaL, take noe that the one in there titled "title   Other operating systems..." counts as an entry
[06:00] <ompaul> silas, not in this version - you will break windows if you try
[06:00] <Kyral> silias you DON'T write to NTFS
[06:00] <ompaul> silas, wait until 20th April
[06:00] <silas> ompaul: I use umask 000 something like that
[06:00] <Kyral> ompaul: Dapper won't have that
[06:01] <silas> i used to do it in breezy
[06:01] <ompaul> Kyral, ohh it was
[06:01] <Kyral> ompaul: Captive NTFS is sketchy as all hell
[06:01] <silas> this is a new installation
[06:01] <Kyral> ompaul: Not that I knw, and frankly they would be insane to do it
[06:01] <ompaul> Kyral, I thought it had been put in there, not as captive
[06:01] <ompaul> Kyral, I sit corrected
[06:01] <thrice`> the kernel option is only partial writing
[06:02] <thrice`> it allows you to write, but not change byte size
[06:02] <Kyral> ompaul: I asked in -devel
[06:02] <slabby> hi, is there a way to access my machine remotely via a browser window
[06:02] <ompaul> thrice`,  nasty
[06:02] <thrice`> a start, anyways
[06:02] <ansinh> crimsun, are you still there?
[06:02] <silas> umask=000 something like that
[06:03] <silas> instade of defaults I guess
[06:03] <Kyral> silas: Don't write to NTFS!
[06:03] <thoreauputic> slabby: possibly, but why? You can use putty/ ssh/ NX ...
[06:03] <thrice`> silas, why do you have 000 for ntfs?
[06:03] <Kyral> silas: Unless you enjoy a corrupted partition!
[06:03] <thrice`> silas, read man mount, especially with regards to umask
[06:03] <ompaul> silas, 0 0 0  is not good and don't write to NTFS you will break it
[06:03] <supermihi> U
[06:04] <silas> ok so I shudnt use for NTFS right ?
[06:04] <crimsun> ansinh: yes, but I'm only 10 minutes out of a meeting
[06:04] <wevex> Jowi: not sure if i got them
[06:04] <slabby> thoreauputic, I want to be able to access my Ubuntu machine from work, but I cant get VNCviewer there so I need to be able to connect via web browser
[06:04] <silas> i have NTFS and a fat system
[06:04] <silas> is it okay if I use it for fat ?
[06:04] <wevex> Jowi: oh, yes i did
[06:04] <Kyral> Nor should you use the Ext Explorer thing for XP
[06:04] <ompaul> silas, fine write to fat and read from both
[06:04] <Kyral> friend of mine trashed his partition with that
[06:04] <kenas> no success
[06:04] <thoreauputic> slabby: can you get NX NoMAchine ? And set up a freenx server at home?
[06:04] <ansinh> crimsun, oh....thx.....have you read my reply above?
[06:04] <Jowi> wevex: fine. that last example is what you asked for
[06:05] <ompaul> Kyral, there is a rumour that that does not copy with the journal so well
[06:05] <slabby> thoreauputic, dont know havnt heard of that before
[06:05] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[06:05] <ubotu> somebody said freenx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:05] <Kyral> ompaul: He actually trashed an ext2 FS :P
[06:05] <thoreauputic> slabby: see ubotu above
[06:05] <silas> ompaul: how can I read/write NTFS ?
[06:05] <ansinh> crimsun, there's no intructions to generate the ./configure script
[06:05] <Kyral> silas: you can READ it
[06:05] <whaley> hello guys:  I'm trying to install subversion following this wiki post - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion?highlight=%28subversion%29    ... however I can't find libapache2-svn.  Is it in another repository outside of main?
[06:05] <slabby> ubotu tell me about nomachine
[06:05] <silas> i mean there are some songs which it seems cant be played from ntfs even ? although it is mounted ?
[06:05] <Kyral> silas: No write!
[06:05] <Kyral> silas: No write!!!
[06:06] <Kyral> silas: No write!!!!
[06:06] <samael_to> hello
[06:06] <Kyral> :D
[06:06] <ompaul> silas, you don't write
[06:06] <silas> ok so can I read , songs ?
[06:06] <chris_> i saw a program u can use to write to ntfs safely on linux
[06:06] <ompaul> silas, you can look just don't touch
[06:06] <crimsun> ansinh: did you create the symlinks?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> slabby: freenx is a great tool - and there's a free-as-in-beer clinet for it for windows or linux
[06:06] <silas> i can see a crossed mark against these 2 partitions in konq
[06:06] <Kyral> chris_: Captive NTFS is sketchy as all hell
[06:06] <ansinh> how do I do it?
[06:06] <silas> that means read only ?
[06:06] <wevex> Jowi; thanks a lot mate
[06:06] <chris_> oh thats what it was lolz
[06:06] <Kyral> chris_: Don't use it!
[06:06] <slabby> thoreauputic, can you connect to a server via a web browser?
[06:06] <crimsun> ansinh: the INSTALL file gives you instructions...
[06:06] <Kyral> Consider NTFS writing OFF LIMITS
[06:07] <chris_> ;lolz okay
[06:07] <ansinh> no...it does not
[06:07] <whaley> ^ i should mention that I'm running from the command line only, so i don't have the package browser that normally comes with ubuntu
[06:07] <HymnToLife> Indeed
[06:07] <Kyral> whaley: Apt-Get
[06:07] <whaley> yes
[06:07] <ompaul> silas, okay we have told you several times - dont write to it, please don't mention it again, you can read it
[06:07] <silas> ompaul: Kyral it says I cannot enter
[06:07] <Kyral> whaley: man apt-get
[06:07] <HymnToLife> I think NTFS writing should be removed till it's 100% safe
[06:07] <silas> I cant read it either
[06:07] <ansinh> crimsun, do you want to to show you the INSTALL file?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> slabby: never tried it - I suppose it's possible, maybe some kind of java client
[06:07] <whaley> apt-cache search libapache2-svn doesn't come up with anything
[06:07] <HymnToLife> silas> did you read the wiki page ?
[06:07] <ompaul> !tell silas about ntfs
[06:07] <silas> when I use konq to enter into it , it says cant ener
[06:07] <HymnToLife> !tell silas about ntfs
[06:07] <ompaul> silas, read the message from the bot
[06:08] <ompaul> HymnToLife, been there done that :)
[06:08] <Kyral> whaley: you think maybe its not in the repos>
[06:08] <HymnToLife> dammit I got pwn3d :D
[06:08] <Kyral> !info libapache2-svn
[06:08] <ubotu> libapache2-svn: (apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 240 kB
[06:08] <whaley> how would i find out the contents of the main repository or in other repositories
[06:08] <samael_to> for you is it possible that when I installed DAPPER my wireless configuration was screwed up, and now I can't use it anymore? Anything documented?
[06:08] <Kyral> whaley: okay its in Universe
[06:08] <whaley> ahhh
[06:08] <crimsun> ansinh: I'm looking at it right now, and you need to follow the instructions for cvs sources (about halfway down)
[06:08] <Kyral> ubout tell whaley about repos
[06:08] <Kyral> and I REALLY need lunch!
[06:08] <silas> ompaul: by default I cant even read an mo3 from that partition ?
[06:08] <whaley> would explain it... didn't know ubotu had packages in his stash
[06:08] <whaley> :)
[06:08] <kenas> i am trying to install a *.tar.gz and this is wht i get
[06:08] <whaley> kyral, thanks :)
[06:08] <kenas> cat instalar.sh >instalar
[06:08] <kenas> chmod a+x instalar
[06:08] <kenas> cat openXpertya.sh >openXpertya
[06:08] <kenas> chmod a+x openXpertya
[06:08] <ompaul> silas, did you read what the bot sent you?
[06:09] <tuneout> is it possible to share a device over the network? i'd like to share my tv tuner card from ubuntu box to an XP box
[06:09] <knuxxles> hi
[06:09] <ELpH95o> what'sup
[06:09] <ompaul> kenas, (A) dont paste (B) see A, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:09] <chris_> how to enable my touch screen and dual display?:P
[06:09] <Ox0000> tuneout: you could use vlc streaming.
[06:09] <silas> ompaul: i am trying to understand . its not very clear to me
[06:09] <knuxxles> I've got some problem with dpkg and ms fonts
[06:09] <ansinh> ohh....sorry, I'm reading it right now :P
[06:09] <Ox0000> tuneout: but it'll not be possible to switch channels on the xp box without some scripting ;)
[06:09] <ELpH95o> I can't wait until dapper comes out
[06:09] <knuxxles> can anyone helpo  me?
[06:09] <ompaul> silas, did you read the message from the bot?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> slabby read the wiki page for FreeNX and have a look at http://www.nomachine.com/
[06:10] <tuneout> i actually just want to use it for FM radio
[06:10] <tuneout> not TV
[06:10] <ELpH95o> i'm tempted to run the beta
[06:10] <Ox0000> tuneout: then use vlc again ;)
[06:10] <slabby> thoreauputic, thanks
[06:10] <samael_to> well' i didn't and it killed my wireless configuration!
[06:10] <iceman> just downloaded dapper iso ... live cd .. whats planning for improvements ?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> slabby: you're welcome
[06:10] <tuneout> so, would i be able to record the audio onto my XP box?
[06:10] <knuxxles> I need help about dpkg?
[06:10] <Ox0000> tuneout: yes
[06:10] <knuxxles> can anyone please help me ?
[06:10] <Ox0000> with a bit of work
[06:10] <tuneout> awesome
[06:10] <Kyral> iceman: Espresso
[06:10] <tuneout> and hear it? (my ubuntu box doesn't have a sound card :-(
[06:11] <Ox0000> tuneout: yes of course
[06:11] <tuneout> alright, thanks for your help!
[06:11] <iceman> Kyral that is ? what ?
[06:11] <Ox0000> np
[06:11] <thrice`> knuxxles, you have read "man dpkg"  ?
[06:11] <eriklo> hearing sound costs extra
[06:11] <tuneout> dang
[06:11] <tuneout> =P
[06:11] <Kyral> iceman: LiveCD Installer :D
[06:11] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: be a bit more specific, please
[06:11] <bjorn_> gnome-add-cups is crashing and I can't add a new printer, can anyone help please?
[06:11] <ELpH95o> iceman, :i tried to install gentoo from live cd but it failed when it tried to write grub
[06:11] <jero> you not lucky
[06:11] <Kyral> iceman: Basically you play around in the Live, if you like it then you double click the installer and bam :D
[06:11] <ansinh> crimsun, i run  make ALSAKERNELDIR=../alsa-kernel all-deps, but it says make: *** No rule to make target `all-deps'.  Stop.
[06:11] <tobbe> #ubuntu.se
[06:12] <kenas> can someone help me to install a *.tar.gz
[06:12] <crimsun> ansinh: did you check out both alsa-kernel and alsa-driver?
[06:12] <crimsun> ansinh: I have a meeting in 3 minutes.
[06:12] <kenas> step by step pls
[06:12] <Kyral> kenas: Its times like these I wish I could SSH into your people's boxes to really see what was going on lol
[06:12] <thrice`> crimsun, at work? :)
[06:12] <Seewai> does ubuntu have an archive of all the source packages ever uploaded by package maintainers?
[06:12] <iceman> ELpH95o i got tired of waiting for gentoo to install over 4 hours on a Pentium 4 2.8 ghz ...
[06:13] <knuxxles> thrice: yeah I did
[06:13] <Kyral> okay, REALLY gone now
[06:13] <Seewai> or keep them under some kind of version control, or .. ?
[06:13] <ELpH95o> it took that long to install?
[06:13] <knuxxles> the thing is that I tried to install microsoft fonts
[06:13] <bjorn_> anyone?
[06:13] <Kyral> leave a PMSG for me if its important
[06:13] <iceman> Kyral besids installer, whats going to be new in dapper ...
[06:13] <ELpH95o> iceman, :i've been trying to find a distro that is similar to freebsd
[06:13] <Kyral> iceman ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <thoreauputic> knuxxles:  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:13] <thrice`> !tell knuxxles about fonts
[06:13] <samael_to> DOES anybody know of any documented problem with Broadcom wireless chipsets and Dapper?
[06:13] <HymnToLife> kenas> you probably won't need it
[06:13] <knuxxles> but it doesn't install
[06:13] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: you need universe and multiverse repos
[06:13] <ansinh> crimsun, yes, both are in ../
[06:13] <HymnToLife> whatever you are trying to install is certainly availale in th repos
[06:13] <iceman> ELpH95o Why bsd ... ?
[06:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Got problem with sending mail... with client no problem! But if using: echo "test" | mail johndoe@bredband.net nothing happens and also mailing from a php script nothing happens. php.ini shpuld be configurated cirrectly as far as i know!
[06:14] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, it seems that there have been a few people having trouble grabbing them off of sourceforge
[06:14] <ELpH95o> iceman, :i'm migrating from freebsd to linux
[06:14] <knuxxles> can't find an exe named andale32.exe
[06:14] <Jowi> samael_to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:14] <ELpH95o> because linux has midi support
[06:14] <bjorn_> gnome-cups-add is broken can anyone help me fix it :(
[06:14] <ompaul> Seewai, there is version control
[06:14] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: ah, didn't know that, thanks
[06:14] <ELpH95o> is slackware any good?
[06:14] <iceman> ELpH95o been to linuxiso.org ..
[06:14] <Jowi> samael_to: oh, dapper. no idea :)
[06:14] <ELpH95o> i have but can't find a distro i like
[06:14] <samael_to> this doesn't resolve the problem, it worked with Breezy!!!
[06:14] <knuxxles> I can't understand why does it try to download an exe file
[06:14] <Seewai> ompaul: how do I access it? what's it called?
[06:14] <knuxxles> thrice: I don't need help installing fonts now
[06:14] <ELpH95o> i tried suse but it didnt have options for my correct monitor resolutions
[06:15] <ELpH95o> i thought about debian stable
[06:15] <iceman> ELpH95o not real familure with BSD personaly, never have got it installed .. so know little about it ...
[06:15] <knuxxles> thrice: the problem is that it can't find a file named andale32.exe on sourceforge servers and installation broken
[06:15] <Jowi> samael_to: try someone in #ubuntu+1
[06:15] <HymnToLife> ELpH95o> it has, you just need to do a bit of manual tweaking :)
[06:15] <samael_to> oky
[06:15] <samael_to> thanks
[06:15] <ompaul> Seewai, don't know I know there is a tree that is all I know
[06:15] <knuxxles> so I  can't use dpkg or  apt-get right now
[06:15] <tristanmike> knuxxles, it's messing with your mind, nah, just kidding, don't worry about the .exe thingy, I think it's an issue with sourceforge, you should just wait a little bit and try again
[06:15] <thrice`> ELpH95o, um...that's rediculous; it didn't have options>  you SET the options in xorg.conf
[06:16] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: try  sudo apt-get -f install
[06:16] <thrice`> ubuntu, slackware, suse- they all have the ability to adjust your monitor the same
[06:16] <ELpH95o> thrice`, :suse's instalation also was bloated 5 cd's
[06:16] <ELpH95o> is too much
[06:16] <iceman> ELpH95o what feature you lack in what you have tried ...
[06:17] <ELpH95o> wanting to run Rosegarden with the dssi plugins
[06:17] <bjorn_>  WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[06:17] <bjorn_>   <--- how do I fix this?
[06:17] <iceman> ELpH95o you tried knoppix ... ?
[06:17] <HymnToLife> he surely tried Gnome ;)
[06:17] <ELpH95o> yah didnt detec my soundcard
[06:17] <ELpH95o> my sb audigy 2
[06:17] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: it gives an error like this when I try it   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:17] <silas> ompaul: it says use ro,auto,user,fmask=0001,dmask=0000 , is that it ?
[06:17] <[Leo] > hi
[06:17] <silas> can I go ahead and reboot now ?
[06:17] <iceman> ELpH95o not every distro will see every piece of hardwae, just like windows, you may need to install a driver ...
[06:18] <knuxxles> and when I try to use dpkg --configure -a
[06:18] <iceman> ELpH95o whats rosegarden ?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: ah - so dpkg is borked - you will have to run  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:18] <ELpH95o> iceman, :it's a awesome midi sequencer
[06:18] <ompaul> silas if you have done that do this  - >> sudo mount -a << and check your mounted partitions
[06:18] <ELpH95o> ubuntu isn't bad though
[06:18] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: interrupting dpkg does that...
[06:18] <iceman> ELpH95o there a binary for linux .. ?
[06:18] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: it just doesn't work. -  http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe
[06:18] <knuxxles>            => `./andale32.exe'
[06:18] <knuxxles> Resolving unc.dl.sourceforge.net... 152.2.210.121
[06:18] <knuxxles> Connecting to unc.dl.sourceforge.net|152.2.210.121|:80...
[06:19] <HymnToLife> ELpH95o> Ubuntu is by far the best on hardware detection
[06:19] <ELpH95o> my fav window manager is blackbox
[06:19] <iceman> ELpH95o or package ?
[06:19] <HymnToLife> for me, at least
[06:19] <samael_to> are the people in #ubuntu+1 still alive? nobody talks to nobody, nobody answers...
[06:19] <knuxxles> does this for 22 times like 2+ hours
[06:19] <silas> ompaul: after a reboot or right away ?
[06:19] <knuxxles> and gets nothing
[06:19] <ELpH95o> the binaries for rosegarden leave out the dssi plugins
[06:19] <knuxxles> so I manually canceled it
[06:19] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: have you run  sudo dpkg --configure -a   as it suggested?
[06:19] <knuxxles> how can I cancel the proxy stuff?
[06:19] <ompaul> silas, you don't need to
[06:19] <ELpH95o> i'm actually working on a .deb package for rosegarden for ubuntu users
[06:19] <knuxxles> yeah
[06:19] <Samineru> Does anyone know what programs there are for ubuntu that support .ogm?
[06:19] <ELpH95o> one that's better than the one in the repository
[06:20] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: as others have said, sourceforge seems to have a problem with the font downloads currently
[06:20] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: yeah I did.
[06:20] <knuxxles> the thing is that
[06:20] <silas> ompaul: sudo mount -a lists nothing
[06:20] <knuxxles> I can't install anything because of these fonts
[06:20] <ompaul> silas, do this df
[06:20] <knuxxles> that sounds a little bit pointless for me
[06:20] <ompaul> silas, if you have done it correctly it is there
[06:20] <knuxxles> I need to install another app, but it just doesn't allow me to do so.
[06:20] <tristanmike> knuxxles, sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts
[06:21] <knuxxles> is there another way I can repair this?
[06:21] <ompaul> silas, if not retrace your steps - it is straight forward
[06:21] <thoreauputic> knuxxles:  try   sudo apt-get remove --purge msttcorefonts
[06:21] <Spax01> hi
[06:21] <silas> ompaul: I changed in fstab actually
[06:21] <tristanmike> err, yeah, with the purge thingy :P
[06:21] <iceman> ELpH95o take a look here http://old.lwn.net/Distributions/#general
[06:21] <wvelez> Hi...is there a program that can import ms money files?
[06:21] <ompaul> silas, that is what you must do, you also added a directory?
[06:21] <knuxxles> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:21] <knuxxles> same answer again :(
[06:21] <Spax01> i had a problem with mein PROXY Configs!! I need help
[06:21] <ompaul> silas, all the instructions are on that page
[06:22] <silas> ompaul: no byt default nts are shown in /media/sda1 and /sda5
[06:22] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: what happens when you run   sudo dpkg --configure -a   ?
[06:22] <wevex> i really cany get this to work.. how do i list executable files?
[06:22] <silas> ompaul: by default I can see those drives , they are mounted as sda1 and sda5 . but I cant enter them using Konq . says u cant enter
[06:22] <Spax01> I need help can me help??
[06:22] <ompaul> silas, the logic is like this prepare ground - make the directory you are going to mount, then mount them
[06:23] <ompaul> silas, try rebooting
[06:23] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: can I send you a pm about the whole log what happened when I try to execute that command? it may be a little bit long for the channel.
[06:23] <silas> ompaul: yep thanks
[06:23] <tristanmike> knuxxles, use pastebin
[06:23] <Spax01> i had a problem csan me hep to fix them????
[06:23] <ompaul> !anyone
[06:23] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:24] <Spax01> ok
[06:24] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: put it on a pastebin
[06:24] <Spax01> Can you help me??
[06:24] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[06:24] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:24] <HymnToLife> :)
[06:24] <thoreauputic> !pastebin
[06:24] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:25] <Spax01> I had a problem
[06:25] <Spax01> with my PROXY !! I need help to fix them!!!
[06:25] <HymnToLife> !proxy
[06:25] <ubotu> HymnToLife: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:25] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/589182
[06:25] <Spax01> yes PROXY
[06:25] <knuxxles> it's here
[06:25] <bjorn_> is there anyone that can help me with my printing issue?
[06:25] <ompaul> spacey, what proxy
[06:26] <HymnToLife> never use one so I can't help you, sorry
[06:26] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: OK looking ...
[06:26] <^Odd^> does anyone know how to get gdesklets to use lm-sensors...it's not detecting my fan speed or my temps even though i have them set up
[06:26] <knuxxles> and it continues for about infinite amount of times by adding try1 , try 2, etc...
[06:26] <Spax01> I had to config them an tipe my ip then came a Erro News and i didnt config them
[06:26] <chris_> who played CS:Source on linux?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: is it just hanging when it tries to download the font?
[06:27] <spacey> ompaul: ?
[06:27] <Spax01> my computer is a Dual CORE Mashine DL 380
[06:27] <knuxxles> hangs for a while (like 10 - 15 mins)
[06:27] <ompaul> spacey, guess not you :-) spax ....
[06:27] <Spax01> From HP
[06:27] <Spax01> :-)
[06:27] <^Odd^> so anyone have any idea?
[06:27] <wvelez> Hi...is there a program that can import ms money files?
[06:27] <knuxxles> then goes another loop from the begining .
[06:27] <ompaul> Spax01, which program are you using for proxy?
[06:27] <knuxxles> this part I mean: #
[06:27] <knuxxles> Resolving unc.dl.sourceforge.net... 152.2.210.121
[06:27] <knuxxles> #
[06:27] <knuxxles> Connecting to unc.dl.sourceforge.net|152.2.210.121|:80...
[06:27] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: looks like that server is down (152.2.210.121)
[06:27] <spacey> ompaul: :p
[06:28] <thoreauputic> it isn't pingable
[06:28] <Spax01> moment
[06:28] <ompaul> spacey, and many happy returns :)
[06:28] <knuxxles> the thing is that I used a comment something like
[06:28] <^Odd^> anyone have any idea how to make lm-sensors work with gdesklets?
[06:28] <Spax01> The normal Proxy program from UBUNTU
[06:28] <spacey> :)
[06:28] <Spax01> This is very dangerous
[06:28] <greedo> ? dapper
[06:28] <ompaul> !dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> I heard dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[06:28] <knuxxles> http_proxy=http://proxy:port/
[06:29] <Spax01> yes
[06:29] <knuxxles> I used such a comment
[06:29] <knuxxles> can it have something to do with this?
[06:29] <knuxxles> and how can I undone this command? any ideas?
[06:29] <Spax01> i dont no
[06:29] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: as I said, their server is down
[06:29] <Spax01> moment i looked them
[06:30] <ompaul> Spax01, did you know there was a german language channel? just in case you don't understand my questions
[06:30] <Spax01> ok i had fix it thanks!!!
[06:30] <ompaul> Spax01, what was it?
[06:30] <sumi> hiiii allll
[06:30] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: I really don't care if their servers are down or not that much. but the thing that disturbs me is that , why can't I install any other programs just because their servers are down?
[06:30] <Spax01> it was a ip chainge problem
[06:30] <Spax01> ITS ok!!
[06:31] <azurehuesofblue> hello, I'm a Linux noob, I downloaded a program I want to install, and it has a Makefile in it... How do I install it?
[06:31] <evilbulgarian> hi, is there a secure (not use password in the script ) way to use smbmount for scripting dumping to a windows share which requires user/password?
[06:31] <arrinmurr> azurehuesofblue: and what program is that?
[06:31] <knuxxles> what should I do, if the servers are down for 10 days, for a month, a year or forever?
[06:31] <knuxxles> never install anymore programs?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: because dpkg is confused - it can't do what the package is supposed to do (contact the server)
[06:31] <azurehuesofblue> it's called radiusniff-0.2
[06:31] <^Odd^> so i am guessing that no one knows the answer to my question?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: I suggest waiting a few hours and trying again
[06:31] <ompaul> ^Odd^, missed it (I think)
[06:31] <CarinArr> azurehuesofblue, in general, you'd run ./configure, then make then sudo make install (but this might differ slightly from program to program, and configure normally lets you set particular options that arent default as well)
[06:32] <knuxxles> I'm already waiting for 6+ hous
[06:32] <knuxxles> hours
[06:32] <ompaul> ^Odd^, gkdesklets one?
[06:32] <sharms> ^Odd^ - I believe if your system has support then it works automatically.  lm-sensors didnt work with my mobo
[06:32] <^Odd^> ompaul: i am trying to get gdesklets to use the lm-sensors which it can but it 's not
[06:32] <knuxxles> and there are lots of people on net have same problem with me .
[06:32] <azurehuesofblue> CarinArr, let me try that. I'll let ya know what happens.
[06:32] <knuxxles> I just discovered when I tried to google a little bit
[06:32] <^Odd^> lm-sensors works with my mainboard just fine
[06:32] <knuxxles> but there's no recent solution to their problems
[06:32] <^Odd^> gdesklets can't seem to get to it though
[06:32] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: sorry, I can't magically fix it for you - you can try running   dpkg -L msttcorefonts  and manually removing the files I suppose
[06:32] <knuxxles> that seems pretty discouraging
[06:32] <CarinArr> azurehuesofblue, normally there'd be an INSTALL or README in the same directory
[06:33] <CarinArr> azurehuesofblue, that should tell you more
[06:33] <^Odd^> gkrellm can see all the sensors on my mainboard
[06:33] <azurehuesofblue> there's not :-/... no instructions whatsoever.
[06:34] <CarinArr> azurehuesofblue, no instructions wherever you got it from either?
[06:34] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: I'm aware that you're no magician . But thanks for all the help you tried to provide already :). The point I'm frustrated is that how can such an operating system which always refered as secure and stable
[06:34] <knuxxles> faces such kind of a silly little problems?
[06:34] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, could, when running the dpkg --configure -a command, could use use "f" to force it, or skip the problem file?
[06:34] <azurehuesofblue> hmm good idea. I'll try to track down the homepage
[06:35] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: the problem seems to be with one package, really
[06:35] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[06:35] <knuxxles> I really wonder if windows has some kinda problem, lots of linux dudes would make a really fun with it at the forums :)
[06:35] <ompaul> knuxxles, now now be nice
[06:35] <fireb0x> !lamp
[06:35] <ubotu> I heard lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:35] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: possibly, or use  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  ( more drastic)
[06:35] <knuxxles> ompaul: what did I say not nice? can you please tell me?
[06:36] <ompaul> knuxxles, I was being humourous on the back of your previous statement
[06:36] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: we realise you are frustrated - bu this is a particular problem with the masttcorefonts package from what I can see
[06:36] <knuxxles> ompaul: hehe sorry about that. I feel a little bit stupid today :)
[06:37] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: it doesn't fail gracefully...
[06:37] <ompaul> knuxxles, what did you use to install this package?
[06:37] <knuxxles> a package called automatix
[06:37] <erchache> hi
[06:37] <ompaul> !automatix
[06:37] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:37] <ompaul> ohh dear
[06:37] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: *groan*
[06:37] <erchache> i have a production server on hoary and wants to pass to breezy
[06:37] <slabby> how do you install .tar files?
[06:37] <knuxxles> a graphical frontend for the apt-get I suppose
[06:37] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: tha's you trouble right there
[06:38] <tristanmike> automatix? boooo :(
[06:38] <erchache> if apply dist-upgrade and fails....can back to hoary without problems?
[06:38] <ompaul> knuxxles, read the comment from the bot above
[06:38] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[06:38] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:38] <slabby> sudo --install file.tar  ????
[06:38] <thenuke> slabby: .tar is a package, not something to be installed as it is
[06:38] <ompaul> knuxxles, ^^^^
[06:38] <ansinh> crimsun, sorry I have to go now :P, I think we can do it tomorrow, thank you again for all you have done for me :D
[06:38] <thenuke> slabby: try like man tar
[06:38] <slabby> thenuke, so how do i extract and install the program? it is TS
[06:38] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: I just saw it. But people at ubuntu forums are quite enthuastic about it. so I thought it's o.k
[06:39] <^Odd^> slabby: pm me i can help with that
[06:39] <knuxxles> anyway can undone the things?
[06:39] <frank23> slabby: what is that tar exactly?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: erm, well ... take the forums with a grain of salt
[06:39] <Fawzib> any help? I'm still unable to compile the winbind source package (need option not in default install)
[06:39] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: unfortunately automatix has broken several people's systems
[06:40] <Telemachus> !ubotu what is tar
[06:40] <ubotu> Telemachus: what are you talking about?
[06:40] <_keroppi_> I installed amarok for Ubuntu, and when I hit play, it merely skips through the songs really fast. I have the oss output plugin, pointed to the correct sound device (same settings as xmms, which works fine). Anyone know what might be up? I couldn't find a solution with google or in the amarok faq.
[06:40] <_keroppi_> It plays no sound at all
[06:40] <GnarusLeo> Can anyone please explain why I wasn't aloud to set a root passwd when install?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> _keroppi_: did you install mp3 support? Are the files mp3 ?
[06:41] <GnarusLeo> Now I dont know what the password is ...
[06:41] <frank23> _keroppi_: my suggestion: install amarok-xine  and change the engine to xine in the settings
[06:41] <_keroppi_> thoreauputic: They're mp3, didn't install mp3 support
[06:41] <_keroppi_> frank23: It's already the xine engine
[06:41] <HappyFool> !tell GnarusLeo about root
[06:41] <_keroppi_> thoreauputic: What mp3 support do I have to install?
[06:41] <knuxxles> what can I do about that now?
[06:42] <Bogdar> hi all
[06:42] <ELpH95o> Ubuntu is the distro that will save the human race
[06:42] <thoreauputic> _keroppi_: off the top of my head I can't recall - but if you have the xine engine it should work I think...
[06:42] <HappyFool> Telemachus: to extract a .tar file, tar xf filename.tar; for tar.gz, try tar xzf filename.tar.gz and finally for a tar.bz2 file, tar xjf filename.tar.bz2
[06:42] <_keroppi_> thoreauputic: I have the xine engine and I'm using it, and it's not working
[06:42] <thoreauputic> _keroppi_: so I gathered
[06:42] <polpak> _keroppi_, what's not working?
[06:43] <frank23> _keroppi_: where are the files located? try to run onw from your home directory
[06:43] <thoreauputic> _keroppi_: can you play mp3 with any other player?
[06:43] <Telemachus> Happyfool......I know...I was trying to get ubotu to tell him...but can't remember how ubotu works
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> what are normal Mac computer speeds
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> I'm seeing "Just bought 5 months ago" 333mhz
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> for laptops
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> my laptop is 2GHz wtf.
[06:43] <HappyFool> Telemachus: ah. just '!tar' if ubotu knows about tar
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> I mean that's better than AMD.
[06:43] <Telemachus> cheers
[06:44] <Telemachus> !tar
[06:44] <slabby> im trying to install Teamspeak linux client it is a .tar.bz2  = how do i install it?
[06:44] <Lampada> tggtg
[06:44] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: 333Mhz was *not* bought 5 months ago
[06:44] <Bean> !tell _keroppi_ about mp3
[06:44] <Telemachus> yep...it knows about tar
[06:44] <slabby> ubotu tell _keroppi_ about restricted formata
[06:44] <slabby> ubotu tell _keroppi_ about restricted formats
[06:44] <shadox> help
[06:44] <shadox> :D
[06:44] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: my iBook G4 is 1.2Ghz but runs a bout as fat as my 2Ghz Celeron
[06:44] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[06:44] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:45] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: maybe a bit faster
[06:45] <shadox> can someone tell me where to find the easy sources part in wiki page?
[06:45] <Storkme> how do i send multiple files to root@192.168.0.5 via scp?
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  check this out, no lower limit for bidding and it's at 99 cents  http://cgi.ebay.com/Powerbook-G3-Lombard-333mhz-512Ram-30GB-OS-X-10-3-9-NR_W0QQitemZ5876373429QQcategoryZ51041QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:45] <frank23> slabby: the basic method:   tar xjvf filename    cd into directory.  read INSTALL and README  ./configure,   make,   sudo checkinstall
[06:45] <polpak> Storkme, scp file1 file2  root@192.168.0.5:/path/to/copy/to
[06:46] <Storkme> ah
[06:46] <Storkme> thanks polpak
[06:46] <tristanmike> !tell shadox about easysource
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Powerbook-G3-400MHz-w-CD-R-DVD-NR-and-power-cord_W0QQitemZ5875945992QQcategoryZ51041QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  "I just bought it 5 months ago" 400MHz 192M RAM  :O
[06:46] <Fawzib> can't anyone give me a hand creating the winbind package from source (AMD64)?  :(
[06:46] <polpak> Storkme, np
[06:46] <shadox> thnx tristanmike
[06:46] <_keroppi_> There should be some postinst script for any media program that tells you about the restricted formats, or something that pops up when you first install ubuntu, telling you how to do these things.
[06:46] <Bogdar> How could I create set of DVD's with main and universe repository ? I look google for jigdo template with no success. Are there any tools to create custom DVD set ?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: well, it wasn't bought new methinks
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  what a ripoff :>
[06:46] <ubuntu> hi there, im trying the ubuntu livecd atm. can i install this somehow?
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  also that first link, no lower limito n bid :)  I could bid a dollar and win.  ;)
[06:46] <frank23> slabby: that's assuming its a source package
[06:46] <_keroppi_> People won't adopt ubuntu if it's not easy and obvious to get dvds and mp3s working. I don't mean people in here, or anyone like us, I mean the masses, of course.
[06:47] <polpak> _keroppi_, the restriced formats are in the gettings started guide
[06:47] <tristanmike> ubuntu, you would need the "install" cd
[06:47] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: well, I think a G3 would run Ubuntu with a bit of care oand feeding ;)
[06:47] <ubuntu> tristanmike, impossible with the livecd? like with knoppix eg?
[06:47] <frank23> _keroppi_: the easiest way to to all this right now is with easyubuntu
[06:47] <slabby> frank23, it is http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads   (linux teamspeak client)
[06:47] <tristanmike> ubuntu, as far as I know, no
[06:47] <polpak> ubuntu, until the next version, the live cd doesn't have an installer
[06:48] <ubuntu> ok, thank you guys
[06:48] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[06:48] <frank23> _keroppi_: the root of the problem is that ubuntu can't distribute mp3 and dvd support officially because of patents
[06:48] <thoreauputic> hi selinium  :)
[06:48] <mod^> What kind of support does iPod Video have on linux?
[06:49] <_keroppi_> frank23: What is considered distributing, hosting files on their servers? Perhaps the user could be prompted when they install the system, not everyone's going to read that guide.
[06:49] <polpak> !ipod
[06:49] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:49] <batman> hello does anyone know how to configure a file when it says run jam?
[06:49] <shadox> aargh how do i open soucres again? gedit ....
[06:49] <GnarusLeo> where can I get xmms for ubuntu and so on? And other packages?
[06:49] <_keroppi_> frank23: What's "easyubuntu", a package or a wrapper to the install, or something else?
[06:49] <sistema> hola
[06:49] <polpak> batman, you need to install jam
[06:49] <selinium> Any live cd modifiers about, i am in need of guidance!
[06:50] <sistema> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL???
[06:50] <Seveas> !es
[06:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:50] <selinium> !es
[06:50] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: use synaptic package manager - xmms is in main
[06:50] <frank23> !tell _keroppi_ about easyubuntu
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  I contacted the guy selling that laptop, it's a G3 333MHz with 30 gig and 512M ram.  That's actually not BAD, but I could bid a dollar and get it; just to be fair I'm heads-upping him that he's got no reserve set.
[06:50] <selinium> Seveas, You are too quick!
[06:50] <polpak> !info xmms
[06:50] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[06:50] <chmod775> folks I want to setup a ir channel
[06:50] <slabby> im trying to install Teamspeak linux client it is a .tar.bz2  = how do i install it?
[06:50] <michael1> de?????
[06:50] <chmod775> I want to post a topic
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  I mean it's in working condition freshly upgraded and everything
[06:50] <frank23> slabby: the basic method:   tar xjvf filename    cd into directory.  read INSTALL and README  ./configure,   make,   sudo checkinstall
[06:50] <ompaul> !de
[06:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:50] <chmod775> How do I do that ?
[06:51] <GnarusLeo> thanks thoreauputic
[06:51] <polpak> GnarusLeo, so you can either get it from the Applications->Add applications or from synaptic, or just sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:51] <selinium> slabby, you will need other packages to be able to build it.
[06:51] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: you will want to enable universe and multivers as well, probably
[06:51] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[06:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:51] <selinium> ubotu tell slabby about compile
[06:51] <GnarusLeo> polpak, I did the apt-get thing, but it didnt get anything
[06:52] <polpak> GnarusLeo, did you use sudo?
[06:52] <frank23> slabby: but in this case, maybe its just  ./setup.sh  once you extract it
[06:52] <GnarusLeo> polpak, of course
[06:52] <tristanmike> frank23, not for teamspeak, it's got it's own install
[06:52] <polpak> GnarusLeo, then it should have worked fine, xmms is in main
[06:52] <polpak> GnarusLeo, unless it was already installed
[06:52] <GnarusLeo> what is ment by it is in main?
[06:52] <shadox> how come my sources.list is read only???
[06:52] <polpak> GnarusLeo, there are different repositories
[06:52] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: the main repository - supported by Canonical
[06:53] <me2win> shadox, you need to use sudo
[06:53] <Ekumb1> does anyone know a good dvd player for ubuntu=?
[06:53] <batman> polpak, ok i have jam installed so how do i install a file with jam.. in the dir it has JamFile config.jam i ran jam on both and it just said found 1 target file
[06:53] <polpak> Ekumb1, totem-xine ?
[06:53] <GnarusLeo> thoreauputic, should I add this main thing?
[06:53] <highvoltage> !dvd
[06:53] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:53] <HymnToLife> shadox> everything that is not in hyour home folder is read only for security reasons
[06:53] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: it's already there by default
[06:53] <selinium> slabby, as an extra, after install build-essentials, i run   sudo apt-get build-dep <package>    where package is the package you are trying to build. If the source is available it will install all the packages needed for the compile.
[06:53] <slabby> frank23, how do i extract it?
[06:53] <_keroppi_> highvoltage: libdvdcss was removed from SeveasPackages, I tried it a couple of days ago
[06:53] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: read the adding repositories wiki
[06:53] <shadox> oki, thnQ
[06:53] <thoreauputic> !repos
[06:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:54] <GnarusLeo> thanks
[06:54] <frank23> slabby:  tar xjvf filename
[06:54] <slabby> frank23, but it is .bz2 aswell
[06:54] <frank23> slabby:  the j stands for extract bz2
[06:54] <tristanmike> slabby, the "j" is for the bz2
[06:55] <tristanmike> frank23, darn your quick today, :)
[06:55] <frank23> tristanmike: lol
[06:55] <slabby> frank23, it wont extract, comes with error
[06:55] <slabby> !pastebiun
[06:55] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slabby
[06:55] <slabby> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:55] <amonroy> how do I go about installing emacs? I tried apt-get install emacs, but it didn't find it
[06:56] <thoreauputic> amonroy: try emacs21
[06:56] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[06:56] <Ekumb1> okay,i have found oKle dvd player.but how do i change the audio language?
[06:56] <HymnToLife> amonroy> sudo apt-get install vim :)
[06:56] <polpak> batman,  file:///usr/share/doc/jam/Jam.html
[06:56] <InDeath> need install xmms from source :: IN ./CONFIGURE have error glib 1.2.2
[06:56] <batman> polpak, yeah thanks i figured it out
[06:56] <frank23> Ekumb1: in the menu?
[06:56] <amonroy> great, emacs21 seems to be working... in general how do I know what's the appropriate name? is there a database somewhere?
[06:57] <amonroy> (google too general)
[06:57] <slabby> frank23, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9825
[06:57] <HymnToLife> amonroy> either use apt-cache search
[06:57] <HymnToLife> or search in Synaptic
[06:57] <thoreauputic> amonroy: when in doubt, run for inatnace   apt-cache search emacs | less
[06:57] <raj> hai
[06:57] <InDeath> downloaded glib1.2.10 but have error where make
[06:57] <tristanmike> InDeath, "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev" ?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> amonroy: all the package info is in the cache
[06:57] <frank23> slabby: dont put a slash there ;)
[06:57] <frank23> !tell slabby about cli
[06:57] <InDeath> not have connection
[06:57] <slabby> frank23, k
[06:57] <raj> im raj
[06:57] <batman> has anyone here used the video copying program handbrake?
[06:58] <Thug-N-Me> foxpaul still here ?
[06:58] <thoreauputic> amonroy: or use the search function in the package manager ( synaptic)
[06:58] <slabby> frank23, still does not work
[06:58] <raj> you like me
[06:58] <amonroy> thanks
[06:58] <frank23> slabby: you're in the right directory and have the right filename?
[06:59] <slabby> frank23, yes is on desktop
[06:59] <InDeath> need install glib-1.2.10?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> amonroy:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto    ;-)
[06:59] <HymnToLife> slabby> then do a cd Desktop
[06:59] <InDeath> have errors
[06:59] <HymnToLife> then run your ommand
[06:59] <rambo3> whats the diffrence betwean ath0 and wlan0 ?
[06:59] <Ekumb1> frank23:i have set german for audio language,but it doesn't switch.the dvd is burned and the menu isn't there,but there are 2 audio tracks.in winxp power dvd it works
[06:59] <slabby> HymnToLife, allready done that
[06:59] <Ekumb1> whaht to do?
[06:59] <HymnToLife> InDeath> which kind of error ?
[06:59] <frank23> rambo3: when a wireless card has an atheros chipset, its an ath0
[06:59] <bjorn_> finally got my printer to work
[07:00] <rambo3> ok thx
[07:00] <InDeath> in file c
[07:00] <tristanmike> slabby, you have a gui right?
[07:00] <frank23> Ekumb1: you can't right click to see the audio tracks? what media player?
[07:00] <HymnToLife> slabby> remove that slash
[07:00] <mAIJK> Hi, when I run subtitles in VLC they just disapear after a while. Can somebody help me with this or just recommend another application that can view divx, xvid with subtitles!?
[07:00] <HymnToLife> tar xjvf ts2_client_rc2_2023.tar.bz2
[07:00] <slabby> tristanmike, yes, whatever was default with ubuntu
[07:00] <tristanmike> slabby, right click on the file and select "Extract Here"
[07:00] <_keroppi_> Well holy crap, have I ever been waiting for a program like easyubuntu forever
[07:00] <slabby> HymnToLife, allready tried that
[07:01] <rambo3> i cant get ubuntu to recognize my wifi card with ndiswraper
[07:01] <Ekumb1> i usw oKle
[07:01] <Ekumb1> there u can't right click
[07:01] <HymnToLife> hmmare you sure you enter the right filename ?
[07:01] <HymnToLife> use the tab completion to be sure
[07:01] <raj> please im chat
[07:01] <tristanmike> slabby, right click on the file and select "Extract Here"
[07:01] <slabby> tristanmike, done
[07:01] <InDeath> 400kb of glib-1.2.10 & he cant install
[07:01] <tristanmike> slabby, did it work?
[07:01] <slabby> tristanmike, now how do i install it ;)
[07:02] <slabby> tristanmike, now i have the folder
[07:02] <tristanmike> slabby, cd ./foldername
[07:02] <raj> you earphones
[07:02] <tristanmike> slabby, assuming your in the Desktops directory
[07:02] <HymnToLife> slabby> cf _foldername && ./configure
[07:02] <HymnToLife> cd*
[07:02] <frank23> mAIJK: I'm not sure... vlc is usually very good with subtitles. any player that uses xine should be able to show them as well
[07:02] <slabby> tristanmike, im in the directory
[07:02] <tristanmike> HymnToLife, no, you don't need to configure
[07:03] <slabby> tristanmike, it has a setup.sh
[07:03] <HymnToLife> tristanmike> oh ok
[07:03] <InDeath> why glib-1.2.10 cant install
[07:03] <HymnToLife> so sudo make
[07:03] <HappyFool> packages.ubuntu.com is useful for searching for packages too (and *in* packages)
[07:03] <HappyFool> oh, and in emacs you can run 'apt-utils-search' if you install debian-el
[07:03] <raj> you tokin me phone
[07:03] <HymnToLife> InDeath> any errors ?
[07:03] <tristanmike> slabby, one sec, lemme get it
[07:03] <shrike_00> 13:03 < InDeath> why glib-1.2.10 cant install
[07:03] <InDeath> have error in .c file
[07:03] <InDeath> when i make
[07:03] <HymnToLife> InDeath> pastebin it please
[07:03] <InDeath> do
[07:03] <slabby> sudo sh setup.sh
[07:03] <rambo3> what errors?
[07:04] <HymnToLife> but isn't the package available in the reps ?
[07:04] <HymnToLife> it will save you the hassle of compiling
[07:04] <tristanmike> slabby, NO!, no sudo
[07:04] <InDeath> leaving directory
[07:04] <InDeath> he say me
[07:04] <Thug-N-Me> oes anyone use  banshee player ?
[07:04] <Janos> hey there
[07:04] <frank23> slabby: yeah no sudo,   sh setup.sh will install it as a user instead
[07:05] <Ekumb1> frank23:still there?
[07:05] <InDeath> *** make [leaving directory]  Error 1
[07:05] <_keroppi_> How do you get gnome-terminal to paste the middle-click buffer with shift+insert instead of the windows-like clipboard?
[07:05] <Janos> is there any tool that manages the links to the development tools like gcc or cpp, in the case that i have two installed version ?
[07:05] <thoreauputic> Thug-N-Me: I'm sure someone must ... ;-)
[07:05] <frank23> Ekumb1: yeah
[07:05] <Janos> or must i change the links manually ?
[07:05] <tristanmike> slabby, not only what frank23 said, but it also runs a graphical installer, so you would want to use gksudo if you were going to, but your not, :P
[07:05] <Ekumb1> frank23:do u got ayn idea?
[07:05] <Thug-N-Me> thoreauputic " must " ? noo they dont " must " to use it :)
[07:06] <slabby> tristanmike, why no sudo?
[07:06] <tristanmike> slabby, see frank23 and my posting just above
[07:06] <frank23> Ekumb1: you use oKle? I never heard of it
[07:06] <InDeath> & errors in gstrfucn.c
[07:06] <InDeath> plz help
[07:06] <zulfiqar> how to add ttf fonts?
[07:06] <Ekumb1> which player would you then recommend?
[07:07] <InDeath> leaving directory & gstrfunc.c have error
[07:07] <InDeath> glib-1.2.10 install
[07:07] <frank23> slabby: since you only need to install this program for the current user and not the whole system, install it as a user
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Thug-N-Me: in English "someone must use it = there must be someone who uses it
[07:07] <slabby> frank23, k
[07:07] <mod^> How do I install more engines to amarok, now I have xine engine
[07:07] <zulfiqar> !help fonts
[07:08] <mod^> but I have arts, gstreamer, etc installed
[07:08] <Jowi> zulfiqar: you can move/copy them directly to /home/user/.fonts
[07:08] <mod^> already
[07:08] <frank23> Ekumb1: totem-xine should work. I use kaffeine
[07:08] <slabby> frank23, how do i make a shortcut onto the start menu?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> mod^: amrok-xine amarok-gstreamer
[07:08] <GC-scoolioke> hmm can i run ubuntu on a petium 2 450 Mhz with 128 RAM?
[07:08] <mod^> thoreauputic: I just installed those
 leaving directory & gstrfunc.c have error
[07:08] <InDeath> [21:10:41]  * unix i?eoiaeo a #ubuntu
[07:08] <InDeath> [21:10:41]  <InDeath> glib-1.2.10 install
[07:08] <Ekumb1> totem xine doesn't do it either.i try kaffeine
[07:08] <tristanmike> slabby, restart your panels, one might show up
[07:08] <thoreauputic> mod^: well, configure in amarok to choose one
[07:08] <frank23> slabby: did it install? and do you know where is put the executable?
[07:08] <mod^> but in the dropdown menulist, in amarok -> options -> engines, I can see only two options
[07:08] <mod^> No engine or Xine engine
[07:08] <mod^> and xine engine does not work
[07:08] <Thug-N-Me> thoreauputic hell yeah . what im saying is that " must " doesnt have to be :)
[07:08] <mod^> dno why
[07:09] <thoreauputic> mod^: it's under "engines" I think
[07:09] <Thug-N-Me> thoreauputic in english :)
[07:09] <zulfiqar> Jowi, there is no .font directory in my user directory should i create it?
[07:09] <frank23> Ekumb1: kaffeine will make you install many packages as its a kde program
[07:09] <tristanmike> slabby, if not, the excuteable is in your home folder "TeamSpeak2RC2"
[07:09] <mod^> thoreauputic: yea, but there's _only_ xine-engine
[07:09] <Jowi> GC-scoolioke: yeah, but you might want to install it as "server" and then add a lightweight wm as ice-wm or similar instead of gnome
[07:09] <mod^> I have dapper drake
[07:09] <thoreauputic> Thug-N-Me: heh ---> #language-argumnets  ;-)
[07:09] <InDeath> plz help To solve problem with install glib
[07:09] <rambo3> i cant get ubuntu to recognize my wifi card with ndiswraper, it is dwl -510 d-link card , suposed to ve supported by ubuntu iut  of the box, anyway lsmod gives me unknowncard with some other name for my card. (fallowed instrucstions for ndsiwraper to install it)
[07:09] <Jowi> zulfiqar: .fonts (with an s). yeah, just create it if its not there
[07:09] <thoreauputic> mod^: did you install amarok-gstreamer? And restart amarok?
[07:10] <sandrinux> GC-scoolioke: XFCE should works well as wm
[07:10] <mod^> thoreauputic: yes
[07:10] <InDeath> plz somebody help
[07:10] <sandrinux> GC-scoolioke: is light, very fast, i'm using i t on a PIII800
[07:10] <thoreauputic> mod^: well, that's odd then - it gives a list here
[07:11] <mod^> thoreauputic: probably should try to find that bug from bugzilla
[07:11] <mod^> dappers
[07:11] <GnarusLeo> Is there a torrent client wich is more similar to bitcomet?
[07:11] <GC-scoolioke> thx sandrinux and jowi, i'll try that... now i've problems with x server all the time
[07:11] <pm> won't there be debs with the newest versions of skype anymore?
[07:11] <mod^> GnarusLeo: the best one I think is azureus
[07:11] <mod^> it just eats lots of rma
[07:11] <mod^> *ram
[07:11] <thoreauputic> mod^: try installing  amrok-engines
[07:11] <Bean> GnarusLeo, I've never used bitcomet, but I use bit tornado
[07:11] <GnarusLeo> ty
[07:11] <mod^> thoreauputic: did that
[07:11] <thoreauputic> *amarok-enginesd
[07:11] <mod^> already
[07:11] <thoreauputic> mod^: hmm - dapper?
[07:12] <sagarp> i cant post in the forum!! every time i log in, it returns me to the front page and acts like i never logged in :'(
[07:12] <rambo3> you can allways check the ubuntu backports for unsupported packages
[07:12] <mod^> thoreauputic: yeh. I'm a tester + translator
[07:12] <sandrinux> GC-scoolioke: look for Xubuntu on google
[07:12] <thoreauputic> mod^: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:12] <GnarusLeo> mod^, where can I get it from?
[07:12] <polpak> sagarp, are you sure you're allowing the cookies from the site?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> mod^: see /topic
[07:13] <mod^> GnarusLeo: from sourceforge
[07:13] <Jowi> GC-scoolioke: I use ubuntu on a P1 166 with no problems. the installation took forever though :)
[07:13] <mod^> thoreauputic: oh
[07:13] <sagarp> polpak yes i quadruple checked my cookies...i even tried it in ephiphany and it didnt work there either
[07:13] <mod^> didn't notice
[07:13] <thoreauputic> mod^: heh ;-)
[07:13] <sagarp> i assume it's not the site, since i've seen people post threads while i've been trying
[07:13] <thoreauputic> mod^: nobody reads the topic it seems!
[07:13] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:13] <GC-scoolioke> Jowi: is it possible for someone without any linux experience? :)
[07:13] <frank23> _keroppi_: still here?
[07:13] <polpak> topics! we don't need no stinking topics!
[07:14] <zulfiqar> when i add a font it does not show the correct characters on screen  ...
[07:14] <thoreauputic> polpak: ;)
[07:14] <mod^> thoreauputic: heh, I just happen to have a small terminal window, so don't really read topics.
[07:14] <_keroppi_> frank23: Yeah
[07:14] <thoreauputic> mod^: so type /topic to read it
[07:14] <mod^> thoreauputic: yea :D I know.
[07:14] <thoreauputic> HymnToLife: ouch!
[07:14] <frank23> _keroppi_: libdvdcss is in the seveas repo
[07:14] <_keroppi_> frank23: It wasn't there a few days ago, I guess they fixed it
[07:15] <Jowi> GC-scoolioke: you will *get* experience by doing it. it's no different than installing it on a P4. just slower. :P just make sure you have at least 3 GB HDD
[07:15] <HymnToLife> hahaha ph34r m3h :D
[07:15] <batman> when you change the fstab file do you have to reboot before the changes take place or can you run a command to restart it?
[07:15] <frank23> _keroppi_: the package name is libdvdcss2
[07:15] <LeonWP> hi, i need a tool to record anything coming in via the soundcard. i heard there is something in the alsa-utils, but i forgot its name. does somebody know it?
[07:15] <_keroppi_> frank23: I did the easyubuntu install, got it to install everything related to media, and mp3's still don't work in amarok. They've worked fine in xmms without doing much extra.
[07:15] <Jowi> batman: mount -a
[07:15] <_keroppi_> frank23: I know, it had no installation candidate when I was trying it on friday
[07:15] <GC-scoolioke> Jowi: ok, i'll try that, have like 20 GB so it has to work
[07:15] <_keroppi_> frank23: I added the sources from the Seveas wiki
[07:16] <frank23> _keroppi_: ok.
[07:16] <frank23> !tell _keroppi_ about sources
[07:16] <Jowi> GC-scoolioke: absolutely
[07:16] <frank23> !tell _keroppi_ about easysources
[07:16] <frank23> !tell _keroppi_ about easysource
[07:16] <batman> Jowi, says already mounted or busy but i unmounted them before i changed the fstab file
[07:16] <GnarusLeo> mod^, ok, I have downloaded it. Where do I put ut so I can run it direcly by just typing it?
[07:17] <frank23> _keroppi_: that source-o-matic thing is nice for all the extra ubuntu repos\
[07:17] <sailor> guys, I've got a quick question maybe someone can help me with
[07:17] <thoreauputic> !ask
[07:17] <mod^> GnarusLeo: Do you have java installed?
[07:17] <polpak> !anyone
[07:17] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[07:17] <GnarusLeo> yes, just wonder where I can put it to just type: "azerius" and it opens
[07:17] <thoreauputic> sailor: just ask - don't ask to ask
[07:18] <ompaul> !help
[07:18] <mod^> GnarusLeo: make a shortcut, to ~/azureuz/azureus
[07:18] <LeonWP> hehe.. my question didn't start with this.. but i didn't get an answer
[07:18] <mod^> the binary file is called 'azureus' u just create a link to there
[07:18] <Jowi> batman: that's strange. man mount might give you an idea why
[07:18] <mAIJK-> Hi, I have downloaded an rar archive in alot of files, r01, r02 r03 and so on.... How should I do to extract them?
[07:18] <sailor> I'm trying to remove phpmyadmin, installed by apt-get... I run apt-get remove phpmyadmin, and it comes back with  Removing phpmyadmin ...
[07:18] <sailor> /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[07:18] <sailor> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[07:18] <sailor>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[07:18] <ubotu> [rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:19] <batman> Jowi, would it be easier to just reboot?
[07:19] <sailor> i try to force it with --force-yes, and the same thing happens
[07:19] <Jowi> batman: if you wish. i don't mind.  :)
[07:19] <sfR> Hey, does someone have some time to maybe help a newbie like me install ATi drivers on my ubuntu Thinkpad T43p with FireGL V3200 please?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> mAIJK,   use unrar and the right option on the first file 'should' extract them.
[07:19] <_keroppi_> frank23: I'm using dapper, is there a source o matic with dapper sources?
[07:19] <Jowi> batman: but "sudo mount -a" should work fine
[07:19] <ompaul> sailor,          sudo apt-get remove --purge pkgname
[07:19] <sagarp> why doesnt the ubuntu forum see my cookies?!
[07:19] <thoreauputic> _keroppi_: not yet, I don't think
[07:20] <sailor> ompaul, same thing is happening
[07:20] <Jowi> !ati
[07:20] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:20] <ompaul> sailor, okay reinstall it and this time then remove it using my command
[07:21] <LeonWP> does nobody know the name of the tool which records anythin coming in through the soundkard? it is in the alsa-utils
[07:21] <sailor> how can i reinstall if i cant remove it?
[07:21] <ompaul> sailor, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:21] <thoreauputic> sailor: jsu try it - sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[07:21] <thoreauputic> *just
[07:22] <ompaul> sailor, thoreauputic's one is better
[07:22] <sailor> thoreauputic, ompaul, it reinstalled fine, but still wont uninstall, same error
[07:23] <batman> could someone here help me to configure a video copying software called "handbrake"?
[07:24] <Jowi> LeonWP: vsound can do it (save the soundstream of any program like realplayer)
[07:25] <LeonWP> aha
[07:25] <GnarusLeo> wich is the best media player for ubuntu?
[07:26] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, it's a matter of preference
[07:26] <batman> does anyone know of any good dvd to avi ripping software?
[07:26] <GnarusLeo> ok, at least who playes xvid and divx :)
[07:26] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, I used to love VLC, but I've becomming acustomed to mPlayer recently
[07:26] <GnarusLeo> thanks
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> I tend to have to try mplayer,xine and vlc. - some of the videos i got just dont play right on some of them. so i use another.
[07:27] <thoreauputic> sailor: you could try  cd /var/cache/apt/archives && dpkg --purge  phpmyadmin
[07:27] <thoreauputic> sailor: might work...
[07:27] <sistema> hola
[07:27] <thoreauputic> um add sudo of course
[07:27] <sistema> alguien sabe el nombre del irc
[07:27] <^anubis^> Need install GLIB 1.2.10, have error in step [make] : gstrfuncs.c: In function 'g_printf_string_upper_bound':gstrfuncs.c:870: error: syntax error before string constantgstrfuncs.c:1037: error: syntax error before string constant ... What i can doing?
[07:27] <sistema> de ubunto
[07:27] <sistema> en espaol
[07:27] <thoreauputic> !es
[07:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:27] <HymnToLife> !es
[07:27] <Lorvija> hey... I'd like to install ubuntu but currently i dont have any free partition.. is it possible to repartition one of my hds? and if so which, slave or master?
[07:28] <HymnToLife> dammit I got pwn3d
[07:28] <thoreauputic> Lorvija: you can resize a partition
[07:28] <batman> anyone know of any dvd copying software dvd to avi/mpeg format other than acidrip?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  yes you can, and it dosent matter
[07:28] <GnarusLeo> sorry for n00b q's, but is there any other option to MSN messengec then Gaim? Wich is a little more like messenger where you can add pitcture and "personal" note?
[07:28] <^anubis^> plz
[07:28] <HymnToLife> GnarusLeo> you can add pictures to gaim
[07:28] <GnarusLeo> oh, thanks
[07:29] <batman> GnarusLeo, amsn
[07:29] <thoreauputic> GnarusLeo: don't know if amsn does that stuff
[07:29] <Lorvija> thoreauputic Dr_Willis okay thanks, any FAQ/howto anywhere? and is it really safe? (: ie. is there any chance to fuck something up?
[07:29] <HymnToLife> (if you mean the personal pics that get displaye next to the chat box)
[07:29] <^anubis^> plz help me
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  theres always the chance.. and there is loads of docs on the ubuntu wiki site.
[07:29] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Lorvija: make backups, of course :)
[07:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  when in doubt.. back up stuff.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> when not in doubt.. back stuff up.
[07:29] <^anubis^> hymntolife
[07:29] <renewip> how to broadcast a message to all User who working on my Ubuntu system?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ive had XP die on me and take out 300+gb of data in the past.
[07:30] <Lorvija> okay... how often ppl succeed to repartition without any problems? =)
[07:30] <thoreauputic> when not even thinking about doubt, back stuff up...
[07:30] <thoreauputic> Lorvija: usually works fine
[07:30] <Bean> Lorvija, in windows repartitioning has never failed for me
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  i do it all the time. - i tend to use a live cd, with gparted, or qt_parted - however for the repartitiong.. and READ the docs on the 2 programs.
[07:30] <HymnToLife> ^anubis^> ?
[07:30] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know why Azureus dont start to download? neither did the built in gnome client :(
[07:30] <batman> bleh.. someone please tell me of dvd to avi/mpeg rippler please
[07:30] <^anubis^> i think my question
[07:30] <^anubis^> actualy
[07:31] <Lorvija> okay thanks guys, so livecd would be the best for repartitioning? or?
[07:31] <HymnToLife> batman> dvdrip or acidrip
[07:31] <Bean> GnarusLeo, try bit tornado. My azuereus wouldn't work because of some updates it wanted :/
[07:31] <crackintosh> can someone tell me if my primary hard drive is automatically labeled /dev/hda1 ?
[07:31] <HymnToLife> Lorvija> definitely
[07:31] <thoreauputic> Lorvija: you can use gparted from the live Ubuntu CD
[07:31] <batman> HymnToLife, is there anything other than those? acidrip seems to freeze up a lot
[07:31] <Bean> GnarusLeo, also make sure nothing is blocking required ports
[07:31] <HymnToLife> dunno
[07:31] <LjL> crackintosh: your primary master is /dev/hda. /dev/hda1 is the first partition on it
[07:31] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, how did you install Azureus?
[07:31] <^anubis^> why i have erros when make glib
[07:31] <GigaClon> tristanmike, Synaptic
[07:31] <HymnToLife> that's why I still use Windows for DVD ripping :F
[07:31] <GnarusLeo> just did ... maybe I have firewall?
[07:31] <GnarusLeo> Trinisan,
[07:32] <JojoLoad> l
[07:32] <HymnToLife> ^anubis^> what errors ?
[07:32] <crackintosh> im running the live cd and my hard drive did not mount at boot. is it supposed to?
[07:32] <tristanmike> GigaClon, it's not available in the repos anymore
[07:32] <^anubis^> Need install GLIB 1.2.10, have error in step [make] : gstrfuncs.c: In function 'g_printf_string_upper_bound':gstrfuncs.c:870: error: syntax error before string constantgstrfuncs.c:1037: error: syntax error before string constant ... What i can doing?
[07:32] <Lorvija> okay thanks, i'll download the livecd and try to repartition.. and about the backup (: i got my whole computer mirrored to my server of which harddrives are mirrored.. so i guess i should be safe =)
[07:32] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, I extracted the package, and startet the conf wizard ...
[07:32] <tristanmike> !Azureus
[07:32] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:32] <HymnToLife> ^anubis^> can't you just install that from the repos ?
[07:32] <gaja> Does anyone know what can cause applications like grip and gkrellm to be really slow at start? Other applications have no issue.
[07:32] <crackintosh> Lorija: did your drive mount when you booted ubuntu live?
[07:32] <^anubis^> i dont have connection
[07:32] <LjL> crackintosh: from what i've understood from this channel recently, it is not. but i haven't used the live cd since long
[07:33] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, follow those instructions
[07:33] <HymnToLife> crackintosh> no it oesn't
[07:33] <Lorvija> crackintosh huh? haven't tried ubuntu live cd yet (:
[07:33] <HymnToLife> *noppix is a Live CD that mounts drives automatically
[07:33] <Lorvija> crackintosh and ye, i'll make sure everything is unmounted =)
[07:34] <LjL> wow, security updates for gcc and libstdc++
[07:34] <Lorvija> crackintosh thanks for the hint =)
[07:34] <crackintosh> I'm guessing that ubuntu cant mount ntfs, even in read only, correct?
[07:34] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, the link is dead (Wich is refered to)
[07:34] <LjL> crackintosh: no, it can. you're right that it can only mount it read-only
[07:35] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, and I got a error while apt-getting it
[07:35] <thoreauputic> crackintosh: wrong - it mounts read-only
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> i read ntfs all the time
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:35] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:35] <moparfan90> hello all
[07:35] <Chousuke> Lorvija: Heh. I looked at your nickname for a while, thinking "damn, I've seen that word somewhere... It feels so familiar." And then I realised it's Finnish :P
[07:35] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, it has been removed from the repos, can't "apt-get" azureus anymore
[07:35] <Lorvija> just out of curiousity... not gonna start kde vs gnome fight but which one is faster.. according to requiriments etc?
[07:35] <twysted> !perl
[07:35] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, twysted
[07:36] <Lorvija> Chousuke heh ye :P
[07:36] <moparfan90> i need to instal drivers for my nvidia gefource5200 card.... and dont know how
[07:36] <moparfan90> can someone help me
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  if you want fast.. go with somthing really minimal. :P
[07:36] <HymnToLife> !nvidia
[07:36] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:36] <LjL> Lorvija: don't think there's much of a difference
[07:36] <Lorvija> Chousuke it's nice nick. nobody uses it anywhere and is always available ;D
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  speed is relative.
[07:36] <HymnToLife> !tell moparfan90 about helpme
[07:36] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis i guess i'll try xubuntu sometime.. (: should be fast?
[07:36] <twysted> can anyone help me with getting a working verion of perl install in ubuntu/apache2
[07:36] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, I think maybe I have to open a port for it or something?
[07:36] <LjL> !tell moparfan90 about nvidia
[07:36] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, http://saens.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_2.3.0.6-3_all.deb
[07:36] <Chousuke> Lorvija: Heh. You'd think there were a lot more loiterers around on irc. :P
[07:36] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis ye... but something with lower requiriments should be a bit faster? right?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and select it from the GDM login and try it.
[07:37] <LjL> moparfan90: that worked marvellously for me
[07:37] <moparfan90> ok thanks
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  oh a high end system - i doubt ya could tell.. on a low end system it will be more noticeable.
[07:37] <Lorvija> Chousuke heh ye :P nobody just uses this name ;) been using several years this.. (:
[07:37] <polpak> twysted, I'm pretty sure perl is already installed in ubuntu
[07:37] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, does that link work for you?
[07:37] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis okay, so on low end system? do you know?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> twysted: apt-cache search apache2 | grep perl
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  define 'low end' :P
[07:38] <thoreauputic> twysted: then install ...
[07:38] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis duh :P just your personal opinion? =)
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> on a very low end.. id use icewm, or fluxbox, or some other window manager.. not a full desktop enviroment.
[07:38] <DarkAdmiral> failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `gambas-gb-compress': Input/output error
[07:38] <DarkAdmiral> what should i do with this package?
[07:38] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis yes but if the choises are pure ubuntu or kubuntu.. out of the box (:
[07:39] <DarkAdmiral> it's always causing this error when i use apt-get
[07:39] <batman> ok for the filestystem type in fstab when its a windows partition it says windows virtual fat (vfat) in disk manager in fstab what would the filesystem be?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Lorvija,  try them and see.. i dont worry about stuff like that.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> vfat
[07:39] <Lorvija> Dr_Willis yep i will (:
[07:39] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, yes it did
[07:39] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, ok, follow the directions on the wiki and tell me how you do...
[07:40] <moparfan90> there was this game i used to play on my old linux box.. calld cube or something like that.. is that the right name/
[07:40] <moparfan90> ?
[07:40] <Robokop> i have a question
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> cube = a first person shooter.
[07:40] <Zarephath> Robokp: Ask
[07:40] <moparfan90> ok thanks :
[07:40] <Zarephath> Hey Dr_Willis
[07:41] <slibs> hello guys
[07:41] <Robokop> i am low on space on my partition and now i am willing to move my /usr to another partition, but then sudo won't work anymore
[07:41] <slibs> anyone running stepmania with dapper?
[07:41] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[07:41] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[07:41] <titov> i tried to run make menuconfig and got the following error:  scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: error sys/types.h: No such file or directory  I get a bunch of those...any ideas why this might be happening?
[07:42] <HymnToLife> titov> sudo apt-get build-dep menuconfig
[07:42] <slibs> it complains something about opengl, but my drivers are okay since im running xgl, i tried to start gnome without xgl, but it still doesn't work
[07:42] <montag-server> what is used in place of "make" in ubuntu?
[07:42] <titov> HymToLife thanks
[07:42] <HymnToLife> montag-server> make :)
[07:42] <montag-server> weird
[07:42] <montag-server> I must have the syntax wrong
[07:42] <slibs> montag-server: download it with apt-get :D
[07:42] <thoreauputic> montag-server:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:42] <HymnToLife> if it says make comandnot found
[07:42] <LjL> montag-server: most often, the syntax is just "make"
[07:42] <montag-server> ok
[07:42] <montag-server> yeah
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> helps to have things installed :P
[07:43] <HymnToLife> you probably need to install the build-essential package
[07:43] <montag-server> why would it not be included?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> why should it be included.
[07:43] <LjL> montag-server: because not everybody goes and compiles stuff
[07:43] <montag-server> no idea
[07:43] <slibs> ...
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> its on the cd  i belive.
[07:43] <montag-server> not enough familiarity
[07:43] <thoreauputic> montag-server: there was a big discussion about that ;)
[07:43] <montag-server> really?
[07:43] <crackintosh> thanks everybody! gbye!
[07:43] <montag-server> what was the conclusion?
[07:43] <Robokop> i am low on space on my partition and now i am willing to move my /usr to another partition, but then sudo won't work anymore does anybody now how i should fix that
[07:43] <thoreauputic> montag-server: before the first release I believe
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> if the majority is not going to use it.. leave it out.. if its semi-needed - fit it on the cd if it can.
[07:43] <Zarephath> I am seeking a cost effective solution to this problem. I love linux, and want to learn much more. To learn ideally I need to have static ips so that I can setup a mail server, etc. Problem is that my isp(US) wants more than I am willing to pay for 5 static ips..Is there a solution? I don't want to violate my terms of agreement and lose my broadband...
[07:44] <LjL> montag-server: it's easy enough to install, and most people won't really need it or want it.
[07:44] <philc> can mod_rewrite be used for something like domain masking/cloaking? I want mydomain.com to consistently map to myotherdomain.com/folder
[07:44] <montag-server> hmm
[07:44] <montag-server> thanks for the info
[07:44] <titov> HymToLife:  it is now saying "You must put some 'source URI's in your sources.list"  how do I accomplish this?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> montag-server: the conclusion apparently was that it wasn't needed for a desktop user :(
[07:44] <montag-server> oh...
[07:44] <montag-server> lol
[07:44] <montag-server> well, yes
[07:44] <smo> Robokop: How's sudo broke?  What did you use to copy the files?  I'm taking a stab in the dark, that you may have dropped the setuid bit from /usr/bin/sudo
[07:44] <montag-server> I guess so
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Which makes sence to me. :P
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> what good is make wotuout the rest of the compiler stuff and then where do ya stop.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> montag-server: well .. some of us think it should be there, but...
[07:44] <montag-server> well, you've cleared up quite a bit of confusion for me
[07:44] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, i think I have to install java ..
[07:45] <LjL> makes sense to me too. disk space is valuable, and i don't really want a complete C/C++ building environment unless i ask for one
[07:45] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, what do I install then?
[07:45] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, did you follow the instructions on the wiki I gave you
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Dr_Willis: well, build-essential isn't installed by default - I personally think it should be
[07:46] <HymnToLife> thoreauputic> is it not enought to have it on the CD ?
[07:46] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: its getting there i think its in main as of breezy
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> thoreauputic,  i dont see why. but then again thats what message-board-flame wars are for.
[07:46] <HymnToLife> I personnally think it shoul not
[07:46] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, sorry, my bad ... Ill try again
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Dr_Willis: heheh :)
[07:46] <Rob|afk> smo just opened nautilus selecting all files in /usr and copied it
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> installing ubuntu for my wife.. she dont need it..
[07:46] <montag-server> ah
[07:46] <HymnToLife> people who compile stuff are advanced enough users and are noth bothered by installing an xtra package
[07:46] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, lol, no problem
[07:46] <montag-server> it's listed as 49 megs
[07:46] <montag-server> no wonder
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Now FrozzenBubble! that should be iusntalled by default and PySol!
[07:47] <thoreauputic> montag-server: well, it is on the CD IIRC
[07:47] <HymnToLife> Dr_Willis> yeah definitly
[07:47] <montag-server> on the 5.10 release?
[07:47] <HymnToLife> how can one live without FB ?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Pysol needs a 'quick launcher' in the panels also!
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Dr_Willis: +1 on frozen-bubble ;-)
[07:47] <HymnToLife> one of the great mysteries of life :D
[07:47] <trappist> HymnToLife: I live without it because I keep forgetting the name
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> and Fb should be playable during the install.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:47] <slabby> is there a way that I can remotly control my ubuntu pc through a web browser
[07:47] <montag-server> VNC?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> slabby,  'vnc'
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:47] <farous> can anyone tell me why the keyboard arrow keys do not work with openoffice?
[07:47] <montag-server> I'm using that right now
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> vnc is a dang handy tool.
[07:47] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, we want people to use and advocate Ubuntu if we give them frozen-bubble that will never happen they will be playing too much
[07:48] <smo> Rob|afk: In that case, There's a good chance the new files are all owned by the user nautilus was running as
[07:48] <slabby> well in windows you can control it via a java aplet
[07:48] <montag-server> VNC has the webserver option
[07:48] <farous> how can i find who is packaging openoffice?
[07:48] <montag-server> not sure where that is under ubuntu
[07:48] <montag-server> the vnc client works right off the bat though
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> VNC has a java/server feature.
[07:48] <wevex> i want to have a "enter filenames" in my shell script, how do i stor the filenames for move later?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Ive had issues with vnc not working right off the bat. :P
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ompaul: indeed - we should of course insist on the bare-bones no-GUI install to educate people ;-)
[07:49] <slabby> i can work the client but i need a web browser interface
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> wevex,  read the 'advance bash scripting guide' for a start. it gives examples.
[07:49] <gnomefreak> abs guide is great
[07:49] <slabby> Dr_Willis, how do i connect via a java applet then?
[07:49] <wevex> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[07:49] <ompaul> thoreauputic, 1 binary switch on the outside of the box with a single store and you can only write forward
[07:49] <LjL> wevex: help read
[07:49] <smo> farous: "apt-cache show package"  will give you a Maintainer: line
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> slabby,  you connect with a web browser that has javaenabled . and it loads the java client
[07:50] <montag-server> you'd go to http://192.168.0.3:5800 or whatever
[07:50] <thoreauputic> slabby: IIRC this is covered on the VNC site - but I haven't read it for a while
[07:50] <montag-server> 5900 is the VNC client port
[07:50] <Zarephath> slabby: You have to find the java applet for your OS and then use it...  :D
[07:50] <farous> thanx smo i am just too angry to think straight now
[07:50] <montag-server> 5800 is the web server java applet port
[07:50] <slabby> but it doesnt seem to work in ubuntu for me
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> 5800  for desktop :0, and 5801 for desktop :1 sont it?
[07:50] <montag-server> tightVNC has it all in one package
[07:51] <thoreauputic> ompaul: Ubuntu should just send people a fre abacus ;-)
[07:51] <thoreauputic> *free
[07:51] <LjL> slabby: "apt-cache search vnc java"
[07:51] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no the strings the beads and the frame - you make things too easy
[07:51] <slabby> Zarephath, i cant find a java applet for ubuntu
[07:52] <thoreauputic> ompaul: why even that? Send them the tools and th wire and wood ;-)
[07:52] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ROFL
[07:52] <ompaul> [ends] 
[07:52] <gnomefreak> ummmmm guys if you make it any harder we have alot more work (can be a good thing)
[07:52] <Zarephath> slabby: Is  it absolutely imperative that you control it through a web interface? If not then just use a vnc client
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> the java 'applet' comes with  one of the vnc server packages.
[07:52] <slabby> Zarephath, yes I cant load the client at college
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> :()
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> bummer
[07:53] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: we should rewite everything in COBOL and make people compile it ;-)
[07:53] <batman> can someone help me configure vlc its not giving me any sound
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> batman,  try it from the shell, and try some other videos.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> batman,  it may be the audio codec is not known. look for error messages in the shell
[07:54] <_with_a_y> anyone know about apache2 name-based virtual hosts?
[07:54] <batman> Dr_Willis, its an online radio stream
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: omg
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> batman,  heh - good luck omn that then. i tend to use xmms for streams
[07:54] <slabby> Zarephath, is there a way through the web interface?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: the Gnome HIG people might object a little ;-)
[07:55] <Jowi> batman: vlc = VIDEO Lan Client. :)
[07:55] <batman> Dr_Willis how do you play streams with xmms?
[07:55] <sistema> hola
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> batman,  i go to shoutcast.com and click on a stream and tell it to iuse xmme
[07:56] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: they might wouldnt be much different than gentoo at that point altho gentoo isnt writen in cobol :)
[07:56] <sistema> Hola
[07:56] <thoreauputic> batman: if it's  a shoutcast stream, i suggest you install streamtuner
[07:56] <LjL> slabby: under my KDE, krfb does offer a Java applet by default.
[07:56] <sistema> hola alguin espaol
[07:56] <LjL> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <ompaul> gnomefreak, when I were a lad they had switches on the outside of a box, it were called a computer, and people bought them, now you want wysiwyg editors, XML and self decscribing data, databases that consume terrabytes
[07:56] <slabby> LjL, what is krfb?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> lol yep :) make my life easy
[07:57] <thoreauputic> ompaul: when I were lad had log tables and slide rules ;)
[07:57] <LjL> slabby: the standard remote access (VNC) thingy under KDE
[07:57] <Hatfield> Hello, is there any cd-burner software for ubuntu already preinstalled in ver 5.10?
[07:57] <batman> Dr_Willis every time i go to the location it tries to use kaffiene
[07:57] <faded_> hi, I don't have the correct permissions to write to files in my homedir, I get permission denied errors. How can I fix this?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Hatfield: nautilus
[07:57] <HymnToLife> Hatfield> yes
[07:57] <HymnToLife> but it stinks
[07:57] <Jowi> Hatfield: yes but it's limited. I use graveman instead
[07:57] <thoreauputic> Hatfield: type ctrl-l in nautilus, then type burn:///
[07:57] <LjL> faded_: "sudo chown yourusername filename"
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Hatfield: right click the file to be burned and burn it
[07:57] <ompaul> knuxxles, so how are you now?
[07:57] <HymnToLife> use k3b :)
[07:57] <slabby> LjL, well i get no connection on the 5800 ports
[07:57] <Hatfield> will it burn .iso?
[07:58] <HymnToLife> no
[07:58] <faded_> LjL: it appears to be all files in my homedir, is there a recursive option?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> k3b does that great Hatfield
[07:58] <thoreauputic> Hatfield: yes, right click the ISO
[07:58] <LjL> slabby: have you tried with the standard client, just to check that it's up and running?
[07:58] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, k3b does
[07:58] <HymnToLife> the builtin one doesn't
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> batman,  save the .pls and tell it to use xmms when ya click.
[07:58] <LjL> faded_: "chown -R yourusername *"
[07:58] <Hatfield> is k3b preinstalled?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> with a name like this and im trying to sell people on k3b :(
[07:58] <slabby> LjL, will check again now
[07:58] <slabby> brb
[07:58] <HymnToLife> Hatfield> on Kubuntu it is
[07:58] <thoreauputic> Hatfield: no
[07:58] <HymnToLife> not Ubuntu
[07:59] <faded_> LjL: thanks. do you have any idea why I don't have permission? I can't even mv or rm files that I own..
[07:59] <knuxxles> dpkg completely broken :(
[07:59] <knuxxles> I can't install or uninstall anything
[07:59] <LjL> faded_: i dunno. what does "ls -l filename" show on such files?
[07:59] <Rawplayer> re
[07:59] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: last time you use automatix, I guess ...
[07:59] <knuxxles> anyone has knowledge with dpkg can help me?
[07:59] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[07:59] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:00] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: yeah, that's for sure. but what can I do for now? any advices?
[08:00] <Hatfield> so can k3b  burn .iso?
[08:00] <montag-server> thoreauputic: I got the following error with make: "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." - does that make any sense to you?
[08:00] <toggleswitch> Hi all from Wellington South Africa!
[08:00] <faded_> LjL: it shows that I am the owner of all files
[08:00] <triablo_> Hi! How to update the package list in Synaptic ?
[08:00] <LjL> faded_: what about the permissions?
[08:00] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: I'm afraid to reinstall ubuntu. please say it isn't so :(
[08:00] <Hatfield> hey africa
[08:00] <thoreauputic> montag-server:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:00] <faded_> LjL: everything is chmod 775 at least
[08:00] <Hatfield> can k3b burn .iso????????????/
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Hatfield: yes
[08:01] <kidem> Hey whats the default Root passwd when isntalled it, i dont member it asking
[08:01] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[08:01] <LjL> faded_: what about the permissions/ownership of the parent directory?
[08:01] <Hatfield> peace
[08:01] <LjL> !tell kidem about root
[08:01] <toggleswitch> hatfield: where are connecting from?
[08:01] <FliesLikeALap> kidem  it doesn't ask at install time.  you have to set it after the install with sudo passwd
[08:01] <Hatfield> TEXAS
[08:01] <trappist> FliesLikeALap: you have to do no such thing
[08:01] <faded_> LjL: directory /home/username is dr-xr-xr-x
[08:01] <LjL> FliesLikeALap, kidem: or, much better, you can *avoid doing that*
[08:02] <FliesLikeALap> ok sorry trappist  let me rephrase:  *in order to set the root password* you have to do  that
[08:02] <HymnToLife> hes, root is disable and it is for a _very_ good reason
[08:02] <HymnToLife> no need to ever enable it
[08:02] <faded_> LjL: I am in the failsafe at the moment, as gnome doesnt load. just kicks me back to the login prompt
[08:02] <LjL> faded_: i think there's a "w" missing there for the owner
[08:02] <cybersoul> hola alguien habla espaol??
[08:02] <toggleswitch> Hatfield: Texas rocks. I like ZZ top.
[08:02] <Jowi> !es
[08:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:02] <FliesLikeALap> cybersoul  #ubuntu-es
[08:02] <Hatfield> () Has anyone encountered and virii activity on ubuntu? ()
[08:02] <thoreauputic> !es
[08:02] <Hatfield> so do i
[08:02] <kidem> root disabled is not a good reason!!
[08:02] <LjL> faded_: my home directories are drwxr-xr-x
[08:02] <kidem> im a slacker...i need root
[08:03] <HymnToLife> kidem> yes it is
[08:03] <LjL> kidem: what's wrong with just using sudo as we all do?
[08:03] <funkyHat> !tell kidem about sudo
[08:03] <faded_> LjL: i see ok, i'll give it a try thanks
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Hatfield: no - hardly any linux viruses, and none in the wild
[08:03] <knuxxles> thoreauputic: thanks for the advice. I'll try it few mins later when I switch back to ubuntu
[08:03] <Jowi> kidem: it is explained in the link that ubotu gave you. also explained there is how to enable it (if needed)
[08:03] <Hatfield> what about spyware?
[08:03] <kidem> i gotcha thanks
[08:03] <LjL> Jowi, kidem: and also explained how enabling it may break one or two things
[08:03] <thoreauputic> knuxxles: it should ask to reconfigure practically everything - it will ask for a root password by the way - just give it one
[08:04] <kidem> why did they disble root << Linux with out root is like icecream with out cake << to me anyways
[08:04] <LjL> kidem: anyway, "sudo command" will execute the command as root. "sudo -i" will give you a root shell. don't really see how this is less useful than "real" root
[08:04] <thoreauputic> kidem: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:04] <HymnToLife> what's wrong with sudo ?
[08:05] <kidem> im reading it yalll...im just curious why they did that
[08:05] <LjL> kidem: sudo helps you spend less time as root, which is a good thing
[08:05] <thoreauputic> guys, ccn we skip the sudo debate? We've heard it so many times...
[08:05] <Jowi> kidem: it is recommended not to have a root password for security reasons. I'm a slacker as well, but in the slack install i install "sudo" since i got used to it in ubuntu and it works great.
[08:05] <whaley> and speaking of sudo
[08:05] <Hatfield> what is the internet?
[08:05] <whaley> i've managed to somehow remove my account from sudoers
[08:05] <ph8> Hi again, I still have the same problem. I'm running gnome, I want to edit files over sftp or scp in a way that when I save in the text-editor it overwrites the file (instead of saving then having to upload seperately) - gedit does fine for ftp:// but not sftp:// or scp:// - are there any plugins or other programs I can use?
[08:05] <whaley> any ideas?
[08:05] <Hatfield> WHAT is the internet?????????????????????????????//
[08:05] <kidem> maybe for a ne user - but not me..i dont login as root, is just sudo still need passwd
[08:05] <whaley> its the only local user account on the system
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Hatfield: stop trolling please
[08:06] <GnarusLeo> Hi! I have another monitor connected to my computer, where can I set Ubuntu up to use this one as well?
[08:06] <Hatfield> sorry
[08:06] <LjL> whaley: if your /etc/sudoers has a line   %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL    , then you need to add your user to the "admin" group
[08:06] <LjL> whaley: if it doesn't, you need to add that line first (use "visudo")
[08:06] <LjL> whaley: if you can't gain root priviledges at all, to edit the file or change your user, then you'll have to boot into rescue mode
[08:06] <whaley> i can't use visudo without having su/root access
[08:07] <faded_> LjL: the fourth column in the ls -l display, is that the creator or owner?
[08:07] <whaley> LjL: i figured that's what I'd have to try
[08:07] <LjL> faded_: owner
[08:07] <thoreauputic> whaley: use the rescue mode on boot
[08:07] <whaley> gotcha
[08:07] <whaley> thanks guys :)
[08:07] <FliesLikeALap> if I want to resize my swap, all I have to do is change the size of the partition and run mkswap again, right?
[08:08] <LjL> faded_: wait a moment, *fourth* column? that's neither. that's the group
[08:08] <faded_> LjL: I see, because a few of the directories have that as root
[08:09] <faded_> LjL: also what is the default chmod for a directory?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> faded_: usually 755
[08:09] <ppl> Hi.
[08:09] <batman> Does anyone here happen to have evil dead 2? :P
[08:09] <faded_> hmm they are 777
[08:09] <LjL> faded_: you should probably change that to your user, for files in your home. though it shouldn't really hurt. (note that there are groups with the same name as users, by default)
[08:10] <ppl> I'm wondering how much time I should expect toreceive my CDs from ShipIt Ubuntu?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> faded_: should not use 777, really
[08:10] <thoreauputic> ppl: 4-6 weeks
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ppl: 4-6-8 weeks
[08:10] <kenas> can someone tell me how to find a file that is on my pc ?
[08:10] <ppl> oh, hmm. arg. ;/
[08:10] <gnomefreak> kenas: places>search files?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> kenas: try  locate <keyword>
[08:10] <ppl> I imagine the CDs have a custom label?
[08:10] <FliesLikeALap> kenas "sudo updatedb" then when that is done do "locate <filename>"
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ppl: yes
[08:11] <JustinLynn> has the latest fglrx broken-ness been fixed in dapper?
[08:11] <mivecz> gnomefreak
[08:11] <gnomefreak> mivecz:
[08:11] <juchipilo> I am pulling my hair trying to set an permanent environment variable   LD_LIBRARY_PATH .  Tried everything possible without success. Has anybody managed to do it?
[08:11] <mivecz> i have  final install  enlightnment
[08:11] <kenas> thnkx
[08:11] <kenas> xD
[08:11] <gnomefreak> mivecz: waiting on feedback from someone on that
[08:11] <ppl> I guess I'm too late. I'll just burn a few copies myself and distribute it that way. Thanks for the information.
[08:11] <gnomefreak> ppl: why not order them?
[08:11] <Jowi> juchipilo: add it in /etc/environment
[08:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ppl about shipit
[08:12] <mivecz> enlightenment 0.16.999.018
[08:12] <ppl> gnomefreak: I just did. But I expect to do a presentation in about 2-3 weeks.
[08:12] <gnomefreak> ppl: too early :( sorry
[08:12] <juchipilo> Jowi,  that was one of the multiple things I tried. It does not work
[08:12] <thoreauputic> enlightenment 0.16.999.018  <<< hahah - talk about cautious devs!
[08:12] <mivecz> gnomefreak  i dont know now  how  i install  change  themeP
[08:12] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: its a pita to get
[08:13] <folki> how can I have a private chat with somebody pls?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> folki: /msg user message
[08:13] <Jowi> juchipilo: and /etc/ld.so.conf?
[08:13] <thoreauputic> folki: /msg <nick>
[08:13] <ppl> Yep. I only discovered that you could get CDs a last week. Some people that want to CUSEC (a soft. eng. conference) got some over there since they where being handed over.
[08:13] <folki> thnx
[08:13] <mivecz> thoreauputic i dont  understand  what is  your provlem
[08:13] <LjL> folki: or /query nickname
[08:14] <thoreauputic> mivecz: sorry? What problem?
[08:14] <gnomefreak> mivecz: its not in synaptic for me i have to get it from the repo directly
[08:14] <gnomefreak> oh you
[08:14] <gnomefreak> oops
[08:14] <mivecz> :P
[08:14] <mivecz> you laugh  with  the  version
[08:14] <Jowi> juchipilo: you need to run "sudo ldconfig -v" after it is done
[08:15] <mivecz> can u help me to   configure theme
[08:15] <mivecz> install use
[08:15] <thoreauputic> mivecz: well, they seem to take forever with E
[08:15] <thoreauputic> mivecz: and it *still* isn't at 17.0
[08:15] <juchipilo> Jowi,  no such  file  /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:15] <mivecz> e hm  no provlem:0
[08:16] <mivecz> what  you use kde
[08:16] <mivecz> ?
[08:16] <Jowi> juchipilo: you definetley should have one :)
[08:16] <xerophyte> which file system is good for webserver cluster .. nfs,cobra, afs ??
[08:16] <whaley> LjL and thoreauputic: the rescue cd worked, thanks a bunch :)
[08:16] <thoreauputic> mivecz: no, I use fluxbox mostly, gnome and xfce sometimes, and I quite like the old E
[08:16] <folki> what is your experiences with free CDs of Ubuntu sending?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> whaley: great! :D
[08:17] <whaley> now i have to be more careful with the usermod command
[08:17] <thoreauputic> mivecz: KDE is OK too...
[08:17] <juchipilo> Jowi, all I've done is download the oracle instant client..  unzipped everithying into /oracle/instantclient_10_2/
[08:17] <thoreauputic> whaley: use adduser, deluser and friends
[08:17] <mivecz> thoreauputic i like  fluxbox  but  i am new with linux  i  can   install  change  all  the  styles  of fluxbox  so  i live it
[08:17] <mivecz> :P
[08:17] <juchipilo> but can not manage to set thad env variable
[08:18] <Jowi> juchipilo: how about creating /etc/ld.so.conf and put the path in there?
[08:18] <mivecz> i have  fluxbox  before  1 week
[08:18] <whaley> thoreauputic: i was trying to add my user account to another group using usermod without realizing i have to respecify each group
[08:18] <corwin> hi
[08:19] <juchipilo> Jowi,  is that file read when you open sql plus?
[08:19] <corwin> thoreauputic:  that didn't work either :(
[08:19] <Jowi> juchipilo: no idea
[08:19] <mivecz> gnomefreak
[08:19] <whaley> editing /etc/groups is probably much easier
[08:19] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: which context menu? Do you run gnome-settings-daemon in fluxbox?
[08:19] <Jowi> never used oracle nor sql
[08:19] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: thats a very good question
[08:19] <thoreauputic> corwin: what didn't work?
[08:19] <corwin> thoreauputic:  but I suppose I understood the main reason behind the problem. most probably I'll need a little help, but O may solve it
[08:19] <gnomefreak> the one when you right click
[08:19] <ph1qt10n> i need a crash-course into WPA
[08:20] <corwin> thoreauputic:  you told me to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[08:20] <smo> juchipilo: If you run ldd on any binary, you should see it link to /lib/ld-linux.so .. if it does, it should respect /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:20] <ph1qt10n> on ubuntu of course
[08:20] <mivecz> gnomefreak  did yoy know  any   good  linux  wallpapers (site)
[08:20] <corwin> it's no use for now
[08:20] <gnomefreak> it has all the menu items (like gnome and all those)
[08:20] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: right click in fluxbox gives a root menu (on the background) - did you lose that?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> mivecz: art.gnome.org or gnome-look.com
[08:20] <x_or> Can someone help me troubleshoot a grub error?  It goes into the command line grub menu when I reboot.  When I attempt to specify kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-6-386, it says "Error 18:  Selected cylinder exceeds maximu supported by BIOS"
[08:20] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: yes all i have is an icon that says fluxbox
[08:20] <ph1qt10n> i need a crash-course into WPA on ubuntu
[08:21] <corwin> thoreauputic:  but one thing gets my attention. I just used a some kind of a command I saw while googling, it was something like http_proxy = http:80
[08:21] <mivecz> is %^^$#@!
[08:21] <mivecz> any other:P
[08:21] <FliesLikeALap> x_or how big is your hard drive?
[08:21] <corwin> not sure about the exact command but it was something like that
[08:21] <FliesLikeALap> x_or also, has your installation worked in the past or did you just install now?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: you need to edit your menu I think
[08:21] <corwin> if I can undo that comment and remove proxy server
[08:21] <gnomefreak> mivecz: not off hand it depends what kind of wall paper you want
[08:21] <corwin> I think it'll work
[08:21] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: lots of good docs on http://fluxbox.org
[08:21] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: how do i do that in flux without having a menu to do it with
[08:21] <gnomefreak> th
[08:21] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:21] <corwin> but the problem is I don't know how I'll undo that command :8
[08:22] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[08:22] <mivecz> something  nice
[08:22] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it isn't hard - the docs tell you how
[08:22] <mivecz> i dont know  can u  help
[08:22] <x_or> FliesLikeALap:  It was working and then I did a kernel update, but the process may not have completed fully before the reboot.  It is a 200 GB HD with a fairly modern (1 year old) motherboard.
[08:22] <s_spiff> anyone here knows what luminocity is?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> ok ty thoreauputic im reading
[08:22] <FliesLikeALap> x_or do you have other choices of kernels to boot that you can try?
[08:22] <Jowi> !wpa
[08:22] <ubotu> [wpa]  enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[08:23] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: there should be a default menu in /usr/share/fluxbox IIRC
[08:23] <foampeace> hi
[08:23] <s_spiff> ! luminocity
[08:23] <ubotu> s_spiff: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <gnomefreak> ok thoreauputic ill look :)
[08:24] <foampeace> whats a good cheap mobo/cpu to get these days...amd preferred
[08:24] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I use a compiled version which has fluxbox_generate-menu ( don't know if the Ubuntu package has that)
[08:24] <corwin> how can I undo this command: http_proxy=http://proxy:port/
[08:24] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: sorry  fluxbox-generate_menu
[08:24] <mivecz> gnomefreak use  fluxbox?
[08:24] <corwin> if I can undo it, like I never prompted it before
[08:24] <whaley> s_spiff - i remember hearing it was supposed to be some really neat desktop enhancement (I think)
[08:24] <whaley> its been sometime
[08:24] <corwin> I can fix dpkg thing I suppose
[08:25] <whaley> i don't a thing about it though really
[08:25] <alexej021> what is meaning of MAN command?
[08:25] <x_or> FliesLikeALap:  There are two kernels /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-6-386 and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386.  Both return the same error.
[08:25] <corwin> thoreauputic:any idea how can I undo "http_proxy=http://proxy:port/
[08:25] <corwin> " command?
[08:25] <Jowi> Alex: "man man" will let you know
[08:25] <thoreauputic> alexej021:  man - it accessess manuals
[08:25] <corwin> I  suppose that's the reason of my problem.
[08:25] <Jowi> alexej021: "man man" :)
[08:25] <x_or> Is the syntax I am using correct:  first, "boot (hd0,0)" then "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-6-386"
[08:26] <whaley> s_spiff: this is what i saw - http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots
[08:26] <alexej021> lol
[08:26] <corwin> if I can get rid of , things will work fine I suppose
[08:26] <x_or> Or, do I need to something else in between?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> corwin: sorry, I don't know
[08:26] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: in /usr/share/fluxbox all i have it nls and styles. should i look for a menu in synaptic?
[08:26] <whaley> s_spiff: check out the videos on that page
[08:26] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: there's a 'manu" package - you can run that as update-menus I think
[08:27] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it gives you "Debian" style menus
[08:27] <GnarusLeo> Sorry, a link for azureus was posted here earlier ... a howto, and a link that works
[08:27] <GnarusLeo> anyone know where?
[08:27] <thoreauputic> um s/manu/menu
[08:27] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: ok ty cause the part for menu in docs has to be written
[08:27] <gnomefreak> lol my luck
[08:28] <alexej021> how i can call root on console?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I can dcc you some docs if you like - I have them in html here somewhere...
[08:28] <ompaul> !root
[08:28] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:28] <ompaul> alexej021, ^^
[08:28] <thoreauputic> alexej021:  sudo -i
[08:28] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: let me see if this worked ill brb i hope
[08:29] <Howbag> ANyone know how to disable the thing that blocks other applications from using audio while one application is using it? It freaks me off :/
[08:29] <moparfan90> i just installed nvidia drivers like someone said to.... do those drive support openGL?
[08:29] <x_or> Is there a way to test a hard disk from within grub?  I am unsure if this disk is corrupted or something...
[08:30] <alexej021> tnx
[08:30] <moparfan90> i need to install the binanary nvidia drivers how do i do this?
[08:31] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:31] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:31] <davidhouse> which group does httpd run as in ubuntu?
[08:31] <io_> I'm using ndiswrapper on ubuntu and it drops the connection really fast constantly.  This is a new problem, I've never had this problem with other distros
[08:31] <moparfan90> i did thst.. those dont support openGL
[08:31] <thoreauputic> davidhouse: www-data I think
[08:32] <davidhouse> thoreauputic: that's the user, is that the group as well?
[08:32] <x_or> Can anyone verify that my grub boot process is correct?
[08:32] <x_or> grub> root (hd0,0)
[08:32] <x_or> grub> kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-6-386
[08:32] <x_or> grub> boot
[08:32] <GnarusLeo> anyone know where I can get azeurus?
[08:33] <supermihi> emerge azureus :-P
[08:33] <ubuntu> j
[08:33] <thoreauputic> davidhouse: ls -l /usr/sbin/apache2 suggests root here
[08:34] <thoreauputic> davidhouse: httpd isn't shown on ps aux | grep httpd - I think the terms have changed
[08:34] <davidhouse> thoreauputic: grep for apache
[08:34] <thoreauputic> for apache2
[08:34] <thoreauputic> I did
[08:34] <zeasier> so what shape is drake in right now? i would like to install and test php5.1 just to see if it fixes this seg fault i've been getting on 5.0
[08:35] <zeasier> can i exspect a functional but unstable system?
[08:35] <davidhouse> thoreauputic: i get lots of processes with "/usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL" as the cmd line
[08:35] <thoreauputic> davidhouse: ps aux | grep apache2 shows www-data here - only the top one as root
[08:36] <davidhouse> yes, that's the user though.
[08:36] <davidhouse> i want the group.
[08:36] <gnomefreak> ok cant see hold on
[08:36] <zeasier> davidhouse: the group is the same
[08:36] <DoTheRodeo> did yall receive that new updates?
[08:36] <henke> Does anybody else get button 6 and 7 events when scrolling quickly? (when only button 4 and 5 events should be sent). It's quite annoying as it sends you Back and Forward in most browsers.
[08:36] <davidhouse> zeasier: chgrp'ing to www-run is erroring though
[08:36] <DoTheRodeo> it just popup'ed saying i got one new update
[08:37] <zeasier> davidhouse: the group is www-data
[08:37] <GnarusLeo> I get this error while trying to access azeurus: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in ..." Anyone know whats wrong?
[08:37] <davidhouse> zeasier: "chgrp: invalid group name `www-run'"
[08:38] <zeasier> davidhouse: apache's group is www-data
[08:38] <davidhouse> thanks zeasier.
[08:38] <zeasier> davidhouse: try su www-data then groups
[08:39] <DoTheRodeo> User interaction required! A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update.
[08:39] <DoTheRodeo> i thought you aint have to restart linux when you have updated something?
[08:39] <somerville32> Hey
[08:39] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: you can check the changelog to see if the fix is crucial
[08:39] <somerville32> I have sound but no system sound.
[08:40] <DoTheRodeo> how'd i do that?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: heh - how would you upgrade a kernel without a reboot?
[08:40] <davidhouse> zeasier: weird. now even su'ing to www-run gives me "Unknown id"
[08:40] <seraphim> DoTheRodeo: only when you got a new kernel
[08:40] <mivecz> anyone  have  use  enlighntmnt?
[08:40] <DoTheRodeo> oh you have to reboot when kernel is updated?
[08:40] <seraphim> you can't load another kernel without rebooting
[08:40] <seraphim> yes
[08:40] <DoTheRodeo> ic
[08:40] <DoTheRodeo> how would i do that then
[08:40] <DoTheRodeo> i mean to change the log
[08:41] <DoTheRodeo> i mean the change log
[08:41] <DoTheRodeo> lol
[08:41] <seraphim> just restart
[08:41] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: you don't have to reboot immediately - unless the fix is security or something crucial
[08:41] <seraphim> changelog isn't important
[08:41] <corwin> does anyone knows how to deactivate http_proxy= command?
[08:41] <DoTheRodeo> i know
[08:41] <zeasier> davidhouse: apache's user is www-data too
[08:41] <DoTheRodeo> i dont care if its important or not, just wanna know how to check the log
[08:41] <DoTheRodeo> how do you do that thoreauputic ?
[08:42] <somerville32> Hi - I'm having a problem with my sound. I have sound (I'm listening to music right now) but I have no "system" sound (ie. Sound producd by Gnome)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: look on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <GnarusLeo> Why did suddenly azerius not work? get this msg: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in"
[08:42] <seraphim> its a changelog. that means theres written what was changed in the new kernel
[08:42] <bimberi> corwin: unset http_proxy
[08:42] <DoTheRodeo> how do you see the changelog?
[08:42] <bimberi> hi thoreauputic :)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hi there :-)
[08:43] <trappist> DoTheRodeo: look in /usr/share/doc/packagename
[08:43] <moparfan90> i need to install these drivers with out being in Xserver how do i close it..?
[08:43] <moparfan90> and get into a console?
[08:43] <davidhouse> zeasier: got it! i was using www-run instead of www-data. forehead-slapping mistake :)
[08:43] <somerville32> ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:43] <thoreauputic> moparfan90:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:43] <corwin> bimberi: says command not found
[08:43] <moparfan90> ok
[08:44] <thoreauputic> somerville32: no, that just respawns gdm
[08:44] <moparfan90> then how o start it again? just restart?
[08:44] <somerville32> thoreauputic: Thats how I do it :/
[08:44] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:44] <moparfan90> ok
[08:44] <moparfan90> thanks
[08:44] <thoreauputic> somerville32: then you must have a diferent setup - ctrl-alt-backspace restarts gdm here
[08:44] <seraphim> why du you have to quit x before?
[08:45] <bimberi> corwin: is this bash?  ('ps' will tell you)
[08:45] <davidhouse> zeasier: thanks for your help.
[08:45] <corwin> bimberi: yeah bash
[08:45] <bimberi> corwin: hm, how about 'export http_proxy='
[08:45] <levander> Is there a package in there repositories that contains xdebug.so?  The debuggin library for php.
[08:45] <somerville32> Can someone give me some assitance with sound?
[08:45] <trigx300> hi can anyone help me fix my screen resolution i have a 19" (1280x1024 max) but ubuntu sees it as a 1024x768 max
[08:46] <thoreauputic> 1fixres
[08:46] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[08:46] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:46] <bimberi> !find xdebug.so
[08:46] <thoreauputic> trigx300:^^^^
[08:46] <trigx300> i already read that
[08:46] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: i can use that guide when you get a spare min (not too important) just trying to remember setting background for good
[08:47] <corwin> bimberi: command not found
[08:47] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: use fbsetbg -l in your ~/.fluxbox/init file for "RootCommand"
[08:47] <gnomefreak> ok i will try
[08:48] <somerville32> trig: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:48] <trigx300> i tried that
[08:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xdebug.so' returned no results.
[08:49] <trigx300> it dosn't let me go more then 1024x768
[08:49] <bimberi> corwin: huh? that's very strange
[08:49] <somerville32> trig: And you select the correct resolution from the checklist?
[08:49] <trigx300> i cant
[08:49] <bimberi> levander: ubotu got there ^^^^ :)
[08:49] <gnomefreak> my menu disappered grrrrrrrrr
[08:49] <somerville32> It gives a list of all possible resolutions (even if your monitor doesn't support it)
[08:50] <somerville32> And then you can select the ones you want xserver to make available
[08:50] <bimberi> levander: i mean :| (it wasn't found)
[08:50] <trigx300> yeah but i dosen't let me select them
[08:50] <somerville32> You use the spacebar
[08:50] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I just zipped it and sent
[08:50] <trigx300> oh :)
[08:50] <bimberi> corwin: something wrong with that shell.  What if you type 'bash' to open a new shell
[08:50] <bimberi> ?
[08:50] <trigx300> i was using enter
[08:50] <GnarusLeo> How can I expand my desktop to a second monitor? Using gnome
[08:51] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: should be OK I think - just unzip it
[08:51] <trigx300> thx i'll try that
[08:51] <somerville32> :] 
[08:51] <somerville32> Good luck
[08:53] <zeasier> GnarusLeo: if X is set up correctly gnome works fine with dual monitors
[08:53] <Ref^Smokey> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[08:53] <DoTheRodeo> ey
[08:53] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: how do i open it?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: erm - I haven't seen you accept it...
[08:53] <DoTheRodeo> how the hell my ubuntu becomes edubuntu after i updated my kernel?
[08:54] <DoTheRodeo> thoreauputic?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: shall I try again?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> its sitting in my server tab
[08:54] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: did you install edubuntu-desktop?
[08:54] <GnarusLeo> zeasier, ok, but how do I enable it?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: hang on a minute
[08:55] <DoTheRodeo> no
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:55] <DoTheRodeo> how the hell that happened?
[08:55] <mok> hi all
[08:55] <DoTheRodeo> i just installed all the updates
[08:55] <mok> can i install xgl in breezy?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> mok: you cant
[08:55] <LjL> mok: you shouldn't
[08:55] <mok> gnomefreak, but no
[08:56] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[08:56] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:56] <DoTheRodeo> what you think
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ok how do i accept it?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: accept please
[08:56] <gnomefreak> how?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: are you in xchat?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> nope
[08:56] <gnomefreak> irssi
[08:57] <DoTheRodeo> thoreauputic, what's gonna happen if you uninstall edubuntu-desktop?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: nothing
[08:57] <Anee> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[08:57] <somerville32> What is that?
[08:57] <Fitzz> !rar
[08:57] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:57] <gnomefreak> somerville32: an exploint
[08:57] <gnomefreak> exploit
[08:57] <DoTheRodeo> what is edubuntu-desktop anyway?
[08:57] <somerville32> Exploit in what though?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> its a meta package for edubuntu
[08:58] <jatos> its the desktop enviroment for kids
[08:58] <gnomefreak> somerville32: the server/ some routers
[08:58] <gnomefreak> not for kids
[08:58] <DoTheRodeo> so its safe to uninstall this junk?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: hmm   /dcc   ( try /help dcc - I haven't used irssi for dcc)
[08:58] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: yes
[08:58] <DoTheRodeo> how wold i do that?
[08:58] <DoTheRodeo> i mean uninstall?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:58] <DoTheRodeo> synaptic?
[08:58] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: uninstalling edubuntu-desktop will just install the metapackage, most probably
[08:58] <somerville32> Should I install new version of firefox? Is it alot better?
[08:59] <LjL> s/install/uninstall
[08:59] <DoTheRodeo> uninstall or intsall?
[08:59] <DoTheRodeo> or im bout to say
[08:59] <funkyHat> somerville32, no, not worth it unless you have problems with 1.0.7
[08:59] <DoTheRodeo> how do i uninstall this edubuntu-desktop?
[08:59] <ompaul> DoTheRodeo, you will free up about 82k or so - and your desktop will look the same
[08:59] <LjL> !tell DoTheRodeo about shortapt
[09:00] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: as ompaul said. it's a metapackage, uninstalling it won't gain you anything
[09:00] <bimberi> !usplashchange
[09:00] <ubotu> To change the usplash image used: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so, choose what you want, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[09:00] <bimberi> DoTheRodeo: try that ^^^^^
[09:00] <potato> poatao
[09:00] <somerville32> Does Ubuntu have plans for more gui admin type tools? You have to do alot of cli work with ubuntu.
[09:00] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: oh - just do wget http://fluxbox.org/docbook/en/fluxbox-docs.html  then
[09:01] <bimberi> DoTheRodeo: except the second command sould be 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure...'
[09:01] <potato> poo
[09:01] <DoTheRodeo> what
[09:01] <gnomefreak> ok
[09:01] <DoTheRodeo> how do you uninstall it, i mean the cmd?
[09:02] <Jowi> DoTheRodeo: apt-get remove name
[09:02] <ompaul> right
[09:02] <somerville32> :/
[09:02] <gnomefreak> ty i got it :)
[09:02] <moparfan90> i instaled nvidia drivers but they dont support openGL i  need to install the 7676 drivers how do i do this?
[09:03] <DoTheRodeo> Package edubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[09:03] <DoTheRodeo> .
[09:03] <DoTheRodeo> but my screen says edubuntu
[09:03] <LjL> moparfan90: how, they don't support opengl? (and what are the 7676 drivers?)
[09:03] <DoTheRodeo> when it loads the modules and stuff
[09:03] <DoTheRodeo> it says edubuntu
[09:03] <montag-server> Does anyone know how to go about determining whether a wirless adapter has an IPW2200 / IPW2915 chipset?
[09:03] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: what Ubotu said
[09:04] <montag-server> wireless*
[09:04] <moparfan90> my video card supports openGL... and i need i for games
[09:04] <lucasvo_> DoTheRodeo: you can have edubuntu without the edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop just ensures that all the packages get installed
[09:04] <LjL> moparfan90: i know that it does. but you
[09:04] <moparfan90> 7676 is the new drivers.. not the newest but new
[09:04] <LjL> moparfan90: i know that it does. but you're wrong that the nvidia drivers don't support it
[09:04] <DoTheRodeo> oh icv
[09:04] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, you have prolly either edubuntu-artwork, edubuntu-artwork-usplash or both installed
[09:04] <LjL> moparfan90: i have a 5200, i use the standard drivers, and they absolutely support opengl
[09:04] <moparfan90> oo... well i have cedega trial installed and it says i dont support openGL
[09:04] <moparfan90> oo
[09:04] <DoTheRodeo> i don't want edubuntu
[09:05] <DoTheRodeo> so wtf
[09:05] <somerville32> Can anyone help me with my sound problem? I have sound but no sound is coming from gnome or any of it's system applications.
[09:05] <LjL> moparfan90: well, did you follow the howto carefully? modified your xorg.conf as it instructs?
[09:05] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, so why did you install the packages then :)
[09:05] <moparfan90> no
[09:05] <DoTheRodeo> i didn't install edubuntu
[09:05] <LjL> !tell moparfan90 about nvidia
[09:05] <moparfan90> it just said to install 2 files and that it
[09:05] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, packages dont install themselves :)
[09:06] <DoTheRodeo> i was using ubuntu, then it asked me to install updates, then i rebooted, and it shows edubuntu on my screen
[09:06] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, if you didnt install it, it cant be there
[09:06] <DoTheRodeo> right after i started
[09:06] <LjL> moparfan90: well make sure there is Load "glx"  in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <Rob|afk> i am low on space on my partition and now i am willing to move my /usr to another partition, but then sudo won't work anymore does anybody now how i should fix that
[09:07] <LjL> moparfan90: also, there should be  Section "DRI" <newline> Mode 0666 <newline> EndSection at the end of it
[09:07] <DoTheRodeo> well i didn't isntall it
[09:07] <Rob|afk> all files are owned by root
[09:07] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, if it is there, you must have installed it
[09:07] <moparfan90> oo
[09:07] <ssserial> donde encontrar ayuda de
[09:07] <ssserial> qemu+ubuntu-server+red
[09:07] <ssserial> pls
[09:07] <LjL> moparfan90: and make sure you have  Driver "nvidia" in your Section "InputDevice", rather than "nv"
[09:07] <LjL> !es
[09:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:07] <LjL> !tell ssserial about qemu
[09:08] <somerville32> !dual head
[09:08] <ubotu> somerville32: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:08] <wevex> whats wrong in:          while [$i <= $noi]   (new line) do (new line) echo "asdf" (newline) done             i have tryed 1000 times.. =(
[09:08] <DoTheRodeo> oh yeah
[09:08] <DoTheRodeo> you right
[09:08] <LjL> wevex: i think that ought to be   while (( $i <= $noi ))
[09:08] <DoTheRodeo> edubuntu-artwork, edubuntu-artwork-usplash are installed
[09:08] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, uninstall them ...
[09:09] <DoTheRodeo> yeah
[09:09] <s|k> does anyone know how I can speed up DNS look up? I'm using DHCP and have ipv6 off
[09:09] <LjL> wevex: also, make sure $i does contain a number before the first iteration
[09:09] <s|k> everything is still very slow though
[09:09] <wevex> LjL: works.. thanks
[09:09] <Fitzz> !java
[09:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:09] <Kootaphor> noob bash question: Say I'm trying to turn 'ESSID:"linksys"' into just 'linksys' (ignoring all single quotes). been looking at awk and sed and I'm just getting a huge block. any help?
[09:10] <somerville32> Does anyone know how I can speed up dhcp? I always have to sit in front of my box for 30 minutes typing ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 until I get a lease.
[09:10] <gnomefreak> ok im back ty thoreauputic  im reading now
[09:10] <trappist> Kootaphor: echo to cut -d\" -f2
[09:10] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: :)
[09:10] <Rob|afk> could sb help me
[09:10] <Rob|afk> i am low on space on my partition and now i am willing to move my /usr to another partition, but then sudo won't work anymore does anybody now how i should fix that
[09:10] <thoreauputic> !helpme
[09:10] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:11] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:11] <thoreauputic> sorry Rob|afk
[09:11] <Rob|afk> np
[09:12] <thoreauputic> Rob|afk: I don't follow why sudo won't work?
[09:13] <jon_> Hey I'm using Dapper Flight 4 on a laptop and the mouse moves very vely slow, it crawls. Doe's anyone know why?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> Rob|afk: it would still be /usr/bin/sudo
[09:13] <LjL> Rob|afk: don't *move* the files from your current /usr to the new partition, *copy* them
[09:14] <Rob|afk> lJL did that
[09:14] <Rob|afk> sorry for not saying that
[09:14] <LjL> Rob|afk: only *after* they've been copied correctly, remove the old /usr. you should probably do that from rescue mode.
[09:14] <mivecz> gnomefreak how to install  fluxbox
[09:14] <Rob|afk> it says sudo: must be setuid root
[09:14] <Jowi> Rob|afk: did you put /usr in /etc/fstab?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> mivecz: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:15] <thoreauputic> mivecz: it's in universe
[09:15] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[09:15] <LjL> Rob|afk: did you pass the "-a" parameter to cp while copying?
[09:15] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[09:15] <mivecz> i must  enable  it
[09:15] <gnomefreak> mivecz: you may want some of the other add-ons
[09:15] <mivecz> what add ons
[09:15] <gnomefreak> mivecz: it should still be enabled
[09:16] <Rob|afk> LjL: nope just used nautilus to copy
[09:16] <LjL> Rob|afk: don't know about nautilus... use cp -a
[09:16] <gnomefreak> mivecz: synaptic would have them by name just open synaptic and search fluxbox
[09:16] <LjL> Rob|afk: otherwise your files will probably end up with wrong permissions.
[09:16] <thoreauputic> mivecz: quite a few. After enabling universe, try   apt-cache search fluxbox
[09:16] <thoreauputic> mivecz: yes, or use synaptic...
[09:16] <LjL> Rob|afk: and that's probably what has happened. the original /usr/bin/sudo had the suid bit set, but that wasn't preserved in the copy
[09:16] <jon_> Does anyone know why a trackpad would be going really slow?
[09:17] <LjL> jon_: can't you change the speed from the settings?
[09:18] <pm> kurwa
[09:18] <Rob|afk> LjL how can i set that
[09:18] <Rob|afk> pm you are polska
[09:18] <canindya> has anybody upgraded to gnome 2.14 from Breezy?
[09:18] <LjL> Rob|afk: don't set it. the fact that it wasn't set means that *no files* were set up correctly. just make the copy again
[09:18] <DoTheRodeo> ok, i unstalled that edubuntu-desktop-artwork, but how come it still showing up?
[09:19] <pm> no, about 40 millions are polska
[09:19] <ogra> did you also uninstall the -usplash package ?
[09:19] <LjL> Rob|afk: and use cp -a this time. "sudo cp -a /usr/* /mnt/newpartition/"
[09:19] <DoTheRodeo> what's that?
[09:19] <DoTheRodeo> oh the boot command?
[09:19] <chris_> can anyone help me installing A Belkin 54g 802.11g USB network card?
[09:19] <ogra> edubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:19] <rob> wow, thats annoying
[09:19] <Rob|afk> LjL ke thanks
[09:19] <LjL> !tell DoTheRodeo about usplashchange
[09:20] <ogra> DoTheRodeo, thats actually the package with the picture you see ...
[09:20] <DoTheRodeo> Package edubuntu-artwork-usplash is not installed, so not removed
[09:21] <Kootaphor> trappist--ooh that was slick, I think I just figure out how that worked--e.g. if i'd put -f1 instead of -f2 it would have just returned the ESSID: bit?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> DoTheRodeo: run ubotu's command that was sent to you
[09:21] <somerville32> chir_: Is it already physically installed?
[09:21] <chris_> can anyone help me installing A Belkin 54g 802.11g USB network card?
[09:21] <mivecz> gnomefreak what add on?
[09:21] <trappist> Kootaphor: yes
[09:21] <chris_> somerville32, im not sure?
[09:21] <somerville32> chris_: Is it still in the box?
[09:21] <DoTheRodeo> should i use default?
[09:21] <canindya> sorry to ask again, I got disconnected,any body upgraded to gnome 2.14?
[09:21] <chris_> its plugged in somerville32
[09:21] <DoTheRodeo> @ LjL
[09:22] <somerville32> chris_: Are you using Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:22] <mivecz> fluxconf - FluxBox configuration utility
[09:22] <chris_> Yes somerville32
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> anyone know how I expand my desktop to a dual monitor?
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> laptop
[09:22] <somerville32> Chris_: Does it work?
[09:22] <DoTheRodeo> ok
[09:22] <robokop> how can i umount my /usr cause it says it is bussy
[09:22] <^Ocean^>  WARNING **: Could not open */usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab* <-- How do I fix this ?
[09:22] <DoTheRodeo> let me restart
[09:22] <chris_> somerville32, no thats why i came here?
[09:23] <somerville32> chris_: Does Ubuntu regonize it?
[09:23] <grain> Is anyone aware of a good HOWTO on setting up Zope/Plone on Ubuntu 5.10?  Specifically, I'm trying to set up Zope 2.8.4-final to run Plone 2.1.1.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> robokop: well, if you are running Ubuntu /usr will always be busy...
[09:23] <robokop> ke means a reboot i suppose
[09:23] <LjL> robokop: you still have your previous /usr i suppose?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> robokop: you need to umount it from a live Cd or similar
[09:23] <robokop> jup i have
[09:23] <chris_> somerville32, how do i find out?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> bbl
[09:24] <somerville32> How many network devices do you currently have installed?
[09:24] <syndicate> o
[09:24] <caffei> anyone know how to pass $DISPLAY with su? it never seems to stick here, despite what 'man su' says about the environment being passed.
[09:24] <chris_> 2 both eth0
[09:24] <LjL> robokop: you could try to force unmounting, but i guarantee nothing in that case. or yeah, change your fstab and reboot
[09:24] <chris_> ** Eth*
[09:24] <somerville32> chris_: Are both devices listed in System>Admin>Networking ?
[09:24] <kidem> Hello peeps, i search wiki.ubuntu.com for Kernel Compilation but no results, my video needs supported...i only gotn 640 <<< errrr
[09:25] <LjL> caffei: sorry, but i use sudo as ubuntu provides that. i guess most people here are doing the same
[09:25] <s|k> anyone know how to cache nameservers in breezy?
[09:25] <syndicate> i'm having trouble installing smbfs: "Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is to be installed". can anyone here help?
[09:25] <chris_> somerville32, yea but theres no wlan
[09:25] <LjL> s|k: what do you mean?
[09:25] <caffei> LjL, ubuntu also provides su, which is what I prefer to use as I run a LOT of commands as other users with the same display :p
[09:25] <canindya> s|k its getting reset everytime you mean?
[09:26] <caffei> LjL, and I don't want to pre-set the $DISPLAY any more since that screws up logins on other displays
[09:26] <LoCusF> !kernel
[09:26] <LjL> caffei: su does not work in ubuntu by default, you needed to change something for that to work. anyway, i don't see what the problem with "sudo" is if you run other users with the same display...?
[09:26] <somerville32> chris_: Are you talking about wide or wireless?
[09:26] <s|k> LjL: so firefox doesn't have to look them up ever time
[09:26] <lucio12> hallo
[09:26] <chris_> Wireless
[09:26] <s|k> canindya: my dns look up is very slow for some reason
[09:26] <caffei> LjL, like I said, I run a lot of commands as other users, and I don't want to prefix commands with sudo all the time.
[09:26] <thoreauputic> LjL: you can use su to switch user , just not to root
[09:27] <LjL> s|k: i use a program called dnsmasq, which is a caching DNS server. anyway, you meant "caching names", not "caching nameservers". you only need one nameserver
[09:27] <somerville32> Chris_: The wireless card is detected but you don't know how to configure it?
[09:27] <syndicate> i'm having trouble installing smbfs: "Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is to be installed". can anyone here help?
[09:27] <caffei> LjL, and yes, I might've changed something, but more likely the sane Debian behavior was inherited when I dist-upgraded to hoary (now on dapper).
[09:27] <p_k> hey
[09:27] <GnarusLeo> what are you using as bit torrent client? Azerus dont work on mine!
[09:27] <chris_> no:|
[09:27] <p_k> ive got a problem with the flash player @ opera ...
[09:27] <p_k> it is listed 2 times ! in "opera:plugins" but doesnt work :/
[09:27] <thoreauputic> syndicate: have you messed with your /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[09:27] <chris_> somerville32, i need to INSTALL it
[09:27] <somerville32> chris_: You said that it was already detected. Is it or is it not detected?
[09:28] <jatos> btw, anyone know any decent FTP clients? gftp SUCKS
[09:28] <s|k> LjL: is dnsmasq in the synapitic package manager and safe to install?
[09:28] <caffei> LjL, now stop attacking me for doing what you think is the 'wrong thing' and help me or stfu :p
[09:28] <somerville32> jatos: SmartFTP :] 
[09:28] <syndicate> thoreauputic, yes, i think so. i just put the breezy cd into my hoary system...
[09:28] <jatos> for Linux...
[09:28] <DoTheRodeo> ok, i booted from 2.6.12-9 and it shows ubuntu, but when i boot from 2.6.12-10 it shows edubuntu
[09:28] <wevex> if i want to have more then one argument in:   if [ $i = "n" ]  how do i do that? like: if [ $i = "n"; $i != "o" ]  ?
[09:28] <Fitzz> !azureus
[09:28] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:28] <chris_> no i said 2 eth* was i dont know if my wireless Is detected
[09:28] <Phusion> hey guys, I'm running 5.10 and I've got sound quality problems.. I have a built in sound card that sounds fine in windows, but in Ubuntu its very scratchty/staticy
[09:28] <p_k> jatos: kftpgrabber
[09:28] <caffei> LjL, when 'su' stops existing in ubuntu, I'll switch to debian. until then, I expect help with it =P
[09:28] <thoreauputic> syndicate: that won't work - you need to upgrade everything or nothing
[09:28] <jatos> right I will give that a go when my systems finishing installing KDE
[09:28] <LjL> s|k: don't know if it's safe. i guess it's safe as long as you firewall it
[09:28] <syndicate> thoreauputic,  and then i saw it wanted to download 400mb and i chose not to install. however, it looks like the cd updated the repositories
[09:28] <jatos> and all the c*** that goes with it
[09:29] <thoreauputic> syndicate: do you want to upgrade to breezy?
[09:29] <caffei> anyone know how to pass $DISPLAY with su? it never seems to stick here, despite what 'man su' says about the environment being passed.
[09:29] <s|k> LjL: how do I use a firewall in ubuntu?
[09:29] <syndicate> thoreauputic, and when i reinstalled samba it upgraded it to the next version but not smbfs
[09:29] <s|k> ubotu: firewall
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[09:29] <p_k> ive got a problem with the flash player @ opera - it is listed 2 times ! in "opera:plugins" but doesnt work :/
[09:29] <thoreauputic> syndicate: you now have a mixed system then - not easy to fix
[09:29] <Shark> Salve
[09:29] <syndicate> thoreauputic, yes, but i'll have to go to an internet cafe to upgrade
[09:29] <chris_> somerville32,  no i said 2 eth* was i dont know if my wireless Is detected
[09:29] <LjL> !it
[09:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:30] <thoreauputic> syndicate: you can try removing al breezy lines and running  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:30] <DoTheRodeo> what you think
[09:30] <syndicate> thoreauputic, ok, will this be resolved if i upgrade to breezy?
[09:30] <jatos> apt-get install webmin-firewall you best bet
[09:30] <thoreauputic> syndicate: well yes, it should be - you'll need to do it the right way of course
[09:30] <syndicate> thoreauputic, can i just put the cd in and let it download everything?
[09:31] <LjL> sorry for caffei, i was just going to tell him to try "su --preserve-environment". but he'll find out, it's very clear in the man...
[09:31] <thoreauputic> syndicate:  did you add the Cd to your sources?
[09:31] <somerville32> chris_: Just a sec
[09:31] <chris_> somerville32, okay.
[09:31] <syndicate> thoreauputic, i didn't but its there. ubuntu must have done that itself
[09:31] <thoreauputic> syndicate: if so, you also need to change the other lines in the sources to say breezy
[09:31] <DoTheRodeo> ey, after i installed 2.6.12-10, do i have to uninstall 2.6.12.9 (kernel)?
[09:32] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: no. but you might want to
[09:32] <chris_> steam is being slow:(
[09:32] <syndicate> thoreauputic, ok, i can do that
[09:32] <moparfan90> is there a package for limewire?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> syndicate: then you reload/ update and dist-upgrade
[09:32] <LjL> !tell moparfan90 about limewire
[09:32] <DoTheRodeo> ic
[09:32] <Bean> damn, Evolution shows that i have new messages in Inbox but doesn't show me the messages :/
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[09:32] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:32] <syndicate> thoreauputic, ok, i'll try that. thanks for your help :)
[09:32] <max300> Im installing ubuntu 5.10 and i got an error with a bootstrap.log can any1 help?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> syndicate: see ubotu above
[09:32] <moparfan90> ok
[09:32] <moparfan90> thanks
[09:32] <syndicate> ubotu, thanks
[09:32] <ubotu> syndicate: gern geschehen
[09:32] <T0X1C> whats up
[09:33] <thoreauputic> syndicate: ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:33] <LjL> !tell ubotu about de
[09:33] <trigx300> it worketh
[09:33] <T0X1C> hi - i just installed ubuntu, and when i try and logon as 'root', it says invalid password
[09:33] <max300> good for u!!
[09:33] <syndicate> lol
[09:33] <max300> Im installing ubuntu 5.10 and i got an error with a bootstrap.log can any1 help?
[09:33] <LjL> !tell T0X1C about root
[09:33] <syndicate> thanks, bye
[09:33] <chris_> T0X1C, Root is disabled.
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !tell syndicate about ubotu
[09:33] <DoTheRodeo> LjL, is it possible to uninstall that with sypnatic?
[09:33] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: yes
[09:33] <DoTheRodeo> ok
[09:33] <max300> Im installing ubuntu 5.10 and i got an error with a bootstrap.log can any1 help?
[09:34] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: double check that the new kernel works first
[09:34] <moparfan90> does anyone know which java package i need for limewire?
[09:34] <DoTheRodeo> i just booted from it
[09:34] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: then "uname -r" to check that you're actually running the new kernel, and then you should be safe removing the old one
[09:34] <somerville32> Chris_: What is the card again?
[09:35] <chris_> somerville32, u there?
[09:35] <NWareX> How do I open up port 3690 for SVN for Ubuntu 5.10?
[09:35] <chris_> Belking 54mbps 802.11g
[09:35] <DoTheRodeo> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:35] <T0X1C> so whenever i need to do an administrative cmd, i just type 'sudo' before the cmd?
[09:35] <chris_> Belking 54mbps 802.11g somerville32
[09:35] <DoTheRodeo> wait
[09:35] <DoTheRodeo> vrv
[09:35] <DoTheRodeo> brb
[09:35] <moparfan90> which java package doi need for limewire???
[09:35] <moparfan90> anyone know
[09:35] <LjL> DoTheRodeo: so you're not running the new kernel
[09:35] <chris_> !ubotu tell moparfan90 about java
[09:36] <chris_> !tell moparfan90 java
[09:36] <chris_> rather
[09:36] <chris_> nvm
[09:36] <chris_> first worked
[09:36] <chris_> lolz.
[09:36] <chris_> moparfan90 read what ubotu  said.
[09:36] <somerville32> chris_: What is the model number?
[09:36] <LjL> T0X1C: yes
[09:36] <xored> i try to get fuse with fuseftp running. when i try the example, i get this error : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2006
[09:36] <moparfan90> ok
[09:37] <moparfan90> i am thanks
[09:37] <chris_> f5d7050 somerville32
[09:37] <chris_> np.
[09:37] <Mart> anyone have a good link on the basics of how to compile a kernel. the basic one that comes with ubuntu i cannot make work properly on my pc
[09:37] <LjL> !tell mart about kernelcompile
[09:37] <Mart> most of the ones ive found expect you to know an insane amount about linux already
[09:37] <max300> Im installing ubuntu 5.10 and i got an error with a bootstrap.log can any1 help?
[09:38] <trigx300> hey i got the same error as max when i tried to install ubuntu 5.10
[09:38] <trigx300> max300
[09:38] <trigx300> anyone know how to solve this
[09:39] <ceteh> hi
[09:39] <trigx300> it stoped at 26%
[09:39] <trigx300> ??
[09:40] <max300> o yes thx for the help
[09:40] <somerville32> chiris_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=339950
[09:40] <LjL> max300: did you really need to make a clone join so you could ask better?
[09:40] <max300> no its my brother lol
[09:41] <max300> wer trying the same thing
[09:41] <trigx300> were on a network
[09:41] <trigx300> ;)
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> i came here to ask something and forgot
[09:41] <LjL> max300: try putting the contents of the error into a pastebin entry. i'm not sure i can help you with that, but perhaps somebody will come who knows
[09:41] <LjL> max300: anyway, if we see the actual error, we might get a clue
[09:41] <Trinitrogen> Quick question, when I first installed ubuntu, I chopped shrunk my NTFS partition to give linux 18 gigs at the end, its is technically possible to shrink the NTFS partition even further and have linux claim teh free space?
[09:41] <pm> how to install opera
[09:41] <chris_> somerville32, when i type ndiswrapper -l it like hangs...
[09:42] <LjL> !tell pm about opera
[09:42] <pm> cd opera, ./configure and... big doopa
[09:42] <chris_> somerville32, nvm
[09:42] <chris_> i get same error
[09:42] <Mart> many thanks ljl
[09:42] <Mart> :)
[09:42] <ceteh> pm: dupa? ;>
[09:42] <somerville32> Chris_: Do what they did and see if it fixs the problem
[09:42] <somerville32> Do you have a driver?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> pm: you can't compile opera - it's closed source :)
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> Trinitrogen : gparted
[09:43] <pm> si, si, dupa :)
[09:43] <s|k> LjL: I managed to speed everything up by editing my resolv.conf
[09:43] <pm> download opera, do what i did and you'll see this dupa ;)
[09:43] <LjL> s|k: the faster the first server you have listed in resolv.conf, the better off you will be
[09:43] <thoreauputic> pm: as I said, you don't compile it - it's binary only
[09:43] <Trinitrogen> lsuactiafner: actually, I've booted into a Knoppix cd and Im using qt_parted but same thing. Im just wondering if its possible
[09:43] <chris_> somerville32, i have the cd with XP And Win 2k on
[09:43] <pm> thoreauputic, really?????????????????????????????
[09:44] <iGotNoTime> how do I switch between my keyboard layouts?
[09:44] <s|k> LjL: the first server on the list didn't seem to be up at all
[09:44] <thoreauputic> pm: of course
[09:44] <LjL> pm: opera has never been free software. it actually used to be for sale (not sure it's still is)
[09:44] <thoreauputic> pm: opera don't release source code
[09:44] <ceteh> pm: chyba za bardzo lubisz gadu (te wielokrotne znak ?)
[09:44] <KuDeTa> i had sex with a monkey
[09:44] <iGotNoTime> me 2
[09:44] <thoreauputic> LjL: it's "free as in beer" now
[09:44] <quellhorst> dapper?
[09:44] <LjL> s|k: that can definitely slow things down
[09:44] <quellhorst> !dapper
[09:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[09:44] <ceteh> KuDeTa: me too ;>
[09:44] <pm> i'm a dumbass :)
[09:44] <KuDeTa> lol
[09:44] <trigx300> here it is:"the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details" Im using a 64bit dvd to install though and it gives me the same thing
[09:44] <thoreauputic> LjL: but not as in speech, of course..
[09:45] <iGotNoTime> switching languages, what is the keyboard shortcut? ALT Shift is not working
[09:45] <bjornkri> ok, I set up mplayer to play streaming media and other stuff through Firefox.
[09:45] <pm> KuDeTa, your monkey/
[09:45] <KuDeTa> can someone tell me if there is any liux equivilents to a) google search b) cubase..or some kind of music creating program
[09:45] <LjL> thoreauputic: of course. though who knows they might not get some inspiration from firefox's success...
[09:45] <pm> did you spank it?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> KuDeTa: watch your step...
[09:45] <bjornkri> But when I try playing the files here: http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/pronounce/speak.html usually all I hear is breathe-in... and then it stops
[09:45] <KuDeTa> google >desktop< search
[09:45] <s|k> now to figure out what's up with gnome and I'm all set again
[09:45] <bjornkri> Never plays the whole file
[09:45] <quellhorst> how can i install ruby 1.8.4 from source?
[09:45] <bjornkri> Is that something everyone has problems with, or a setup issue on my side?
[09:46] <quellhorst> !ruby
[09:46] <ubotu> I guess ruby is an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.6.
[09:46] <trigx300> KuDeTa: rosegarden
[09:46] <LjL> KuDeTa: this there is something like that. can't recall the name right now
[09:46] <iGotNoTime> uboto it will install like that?
[09:46] <apollo2011> has anyone here gotten php to work correctly on apache2?
[09:46] <ceteh> apollo2011: /me
[09:47] <KuDeTa> sorry trigx300 rose garden is?? google desktop or cubase equiv
[09:47] <iGotNoTime> uboto: or will it simply download ?
[09:47] <pm> KuDeTa, did you have sex with dog?
[09:47] <trigx300> cubase
[09:47] <KuDeTa> no
[09:47] <KuDeTa> with a monkey
[09:47] <trigx300> kina hard to get it working for audio though
[09:47] <KuDeTa> ah ok sweeet
[09:47] <apollo2011> ceteh: I installed all the packages but when I load a php file in Firefox from /var/www/, it wants to download it
[09:47] <KuDeTa> thanks very much ill have a look
[09:47] <jatos> anyone here know what kstars is?
[09:47] <jatos> !kstars
[09:47] <ubotu> jatos: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <KuDeTa> what about google desktop search equivilent?
[09:47] <pm> KuDeTa, you should try with dog
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !info kstars
[09:48] <ubotu> kstars: (desktop planetarium for KDE), section science, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3527 kB, Installed size: 6460 kB
[09:48] <iGotNoTime> apollo it sounds like your MIME is not set
[09:48] <LjL> KuDeTa: i suggest "apt-cache search music edit" for a more comprehensive list
[09:48] <delmar> Does anyone know if the memory leak still exists with "Render Accel" and if it is still required to have  Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"  in the device section of Xorg.conf ?
[09:48] <ceteh> apollo2011: priv
[09:48] <apollo2011> ceteh: I added the Loadmodule and Addtype parts to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but it doesn't help
[09:48] <bjornkri> I'm having problems with playing .wav s and other media on webpages, it's cut short. Can anyone help?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> pm.. KuDeTa once more and you are out of here
[09:48] <LjL> KuDeTa: still looking for it. there is "kat" for KDE, but i'm sure there is a famous one for gnome too
[09:48] <KuDeTa> ta :)
[09:48] <jatos> the old ! didn't get very far on this one
[09:48] <trigx300> KuDeTa: you might want to try serching google. there are websites dedicated toaudio on linux
[09:48] <LjL> KuDeTa: "apt-cache show beagle"
[09:48] <pm> what a bunch of dumbasses, i knew opera was closed source :)))))
[09:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[09:49] <iGotNoTime> pm: so do we :P
[09:49] <thoreauputic> pm: stop the trolling, please
[09:49] <pm> thoreauputic, really?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> !conduct
[09:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:49] <thoreauputic> pm read the Code of Conduct
[09:50] <pm> i'm not trolling dude
[09:50] <ceteh> pm: naprawd?
[09:50] <pm> i mean ty dupo
[09:50] <ceteh> thoreauputic: pm say that you are ass
[09:50] <ceteh> <:
[09:50] <KuDeTa> thoreauputic sorry :) just having a laugh after a long day..didn't mean to cause offense
[09:50] <trigx300> hey the error i got when installing ubuntu 5.10 is:"the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details" Im using a 64bit ver. dvd (live and install) to install
[09:51] <EnsignRedshirt> I think my laptop is having hardware problems.  It hung up while booting (after printing some cryptic message that I neglected to write down), and when I cycled power, I saw a "fail" during the graphical boot--I think it was from something like "Checking file systems."  Any ideas where to start?  Any log files I should check?
[09:51] <DoTheRode> ok, i uninstalled 2.6.12.9 kernel, but that edubuntu thing is still showing
[09:51] <iGotNoTime> does anyone here use a second language?
[09:51] <apollo2011> ceteh: did you get the pm?
[09:51] <jatos> the only way to get rid of edubuntu is to apt-get remove it
[09:51] <DoTheRode> i did
[09:51] <LjL> iGotNoTime: *in here*, we only use english...
[09:51] <ceteh> iGotNoTime: I
[09:52] <DoTheRode> it says not installed when i do that
[09:52] <iGotNoTime> I mean on your system not the IRC
[09:52] <ceteh> apollo2011: imho pm is polish troll <:
[09:52] <bjornkri> hehehe
[09:52] <jatos> try doing into synaptic and selecting complete removal, see what happens
[09:52] <Bean> ok, evolution annoying me... shouldn't have any issues setting up a basic imap account. Thunderbird it is :/
[09:52] <DoTheRode> ill try that
[09:52] <LjL> iGotNoTime: then no, i use english. i hate translations
[09:52] <bjornkri> same here
[09:53] <bjornkri> although I'm not even sure Icelandic is even supported
[09:53] <iGotNoTime> I am not looking for translations, I need to switch my keyboard layout but the shortcut to do so is not taking effect
[09:53] <bjornkri> Ah, I had the same problem
[09:53] <trigx300> can anyone help me?
[09:53] <LjL> bjornkri: "apt-cache search iceland" ;)
[09:53] <suppaman> hello
[09:53] <bjornkri> I ended up picking 'both shifts' as the ones I wanted simply didn't work :s
[09:53] <apollo2011> ceteh: ??
[09:53] <ceteh> apollo2011: polish troll (troll from Poland)
[09:54] <michael> when is dapper coming out?
[09:54] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[09:54] <bjornkri> Well what do you know... :)
[09:54] <LjL> !tell michael about dapper
[09:54] <apollo2011> ceteh: oh ok
[09:54] <bjornkri> Is it easy to switch back and forth between languages?
[09:54] <michael> LjL: in irssi how can i switch between the chat and PMs?
[09:54] <somerville32> !dapper
[09:54] <bjornkri> Don't think I'll use the Icelandic at all, but might be interesting to check out
[09:54] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[09:54] <DoTheRode> last try
[09:54] <LjL> michael: i don't use irssi
[09:55] <michael> LjL: awww
[09:55] <kidem> wow...im surprised you all allow trolling in here << that was not a troll, just an observation
[09:55] <LjL> bjornkri: i don't know actually
[09:55] <mikebot> LjL: okay
[09:55] <iGotNoTime> in XP yes, but it seems nobody knows how with Ubuntu LOL
[09:55] <LjL> kidem: trolling is not quite allowed
[09:55] <chris_> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[09:55] <chris_>  <- what does that mean
[09:55] <somerville32> igotnotime: Whats the problem?
[09:55] <trigx300> has anyone here installed ubuntu 5.10 through dvd (live and install)
[09:55] <trigx300> ???
[09:55] <kidem> i would hope not bro >> but anyways...anyone have problems with ATI video?
[09:56] <LjL> iGotNoTime: we were actually talking about *interface language*. that can't be done *at all* in Windows ;-) changing keyboard layouts is very easy in KDE, but i don't know about Gnome
[09:56] <AndyR> trigx300, yes many times here
[09:56] <iGotNoTime> Not not interface, simply to type a letter
[09:56] <iGotNoTime> yes in gnome
[09:56] <kidem> i did the hole sudo install linux 386 thing like said in wiki...but doesnt seem to work
[09:56] <cycus_zwisus> ceteh, jestes tu patafianie?
[09:56] <maruchan> i have a quick question to anyone who uses gdesklet, can anyone get the Weather+ to install or run?
[09:56] <sca1> chris: did you do ndiswrapper -m ?
[09:56] <Pecisk> hello, how can I install gstreamer-plugins-bad 0.10 version in Dapper? It requires some libmms and libswf, which are not in repositories
[09:56] <trigx300> i get this :"the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details"
[09:56] <sca1> the message means that i cant fint the module
[09:56] <ceteh> did Icewind Dale II works with wine?
[09:56] <Pecisk> is there some repository I should use for that?
[09:57] <LjL> iGotNoTime: yes i've understood that. in KDE, it's Settings / Regional / Keyboard layout. can't imagine it's much different in Gnome, but what do i know
[09:57] <kidem> also...question...why does ubuntu take so long to boot??
[09:57] <trigx300> scal: u talkin to me?
[09:57] <LjL> kidem: Ubuntu does take a little longer than a plain WinXP install
[09:57] <sca1> to chris
[09:57] <trigx300> oh
[09:57] <kidem> no i mean boot
[09:57] <bjornkri> iGotNoTime, I suppose you know this, but System / Preferences / Keyboard Preferences then Layout Options under Group Shift/Lock behavior
[09:57] <kidem> take forever
[09:58] <iGotNoTime> LjL: yes I have the layouts set, I am only trying to switch between the layouts
[09:58] <KuDeTa> anybody used beagle?
[09:58] <LjL> trigx300: download md5sum for windows and check that your Ubuntu CD is not corrupted (they have MD5SUMS files on the Ubuntu mirrors for that)
[09:58] <AndyR> kidem, where does it hang?
[09:58] <KuDeTa> tell me what its like
[09:58] <kidem> my slackware is up in 1 min if that, Ubuntu takes 3+min
[09:58] <cycus_zwisus> anyone using monkey?
[09:58] <iGotNoTime> bjornkri: yes that is where I have been trying
[09:58] <jodanlime> hey, I'm trying to set up something from source, and its not working for me, can somebody help me?
[09:58] <bjornkri> iGotNoTime, not all the shortcuts seem to work, at least they didn't for me. I switch layouts now using both shifts and that works fine
[09:58] <ara> why no gnome-user-share in breezy ?
[09:59] <LjL> iGotNoTime: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-September/msg00070.html
[09:59] <iGotNoTime> will try that :)
[09:59] <bjornkri> But it's not the setting I would have preferred :\
[09:59] <bjornkri> But hey, what works works :P
[09:59] <trigx300> i don't think it's the disk as it gives max300 the same error and hes using a 32 bit ver dvd
[09:59] <Zorzside> i have a question
[09:59] <trigx300> but i'll try
[09:59] <nosilver4u> what's a good tool to admin mysql from a gui? (besided phpmyadmin)
[09:59] <Zorzside> i want acces to an ntfs partition from ubuntu
[10:00] <Zorzside> what i have to do?
[10:00] <DoTheRode> dang
[10:00] <DoTheRode> edubuntu is still showing
[10:00] <LjL> iGotNoTime: http://indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/KeyboardGnomeKde
[10:00] <transgress> Zorzside: add them to your /etc/fstab file ... if the ntfs partitions were there before the install of ubuntu, they should already be there however...
[10:00] <trigx300> LjL: i trashed windows though :)
[10:00] <michael1> de server?
[10:00] <s|k> where do I find the file that runs a program I've just installed so I can add it to my menu?
[10:00] <trigx300> tired of it lol
[10:01] <LjL> iGotNoTime, bjornkri: seems there is a panel applet you should add
[10:01] <jodanlime> how do I compile from source?
[10:01] <KuDeTa> anybody ever used the ACX drivers?
[10:01] <diogo> greetings! any language-support experts around? :o)
[10:01] <LjL> trigx300: well then try alt+f2 from the Ubuntu installer... i don't know if md5sum is installed there, but you can try.
[10:01] <michael1> wo ist de sever?
[10:01] <transgress> s|k: if you added the program via apt-get it should add itself to the menu, but if it didn't, then the gnome-menu-editor... and you can also run it from the command line..
[10:01] <LjL> trigx300: or you could possibly boot from the Live CD
[10:01] <KuDeTa> for wireless networking
[10:01] <iGotNoTime> THANK YOU!
[10:02] <s|k> transgress: but I'm trying to find the actual program, I'm using the menu editor, I just can't find the file
[10:02] <DoTheRode> ogra, what you think?
[10:02] <bjornkri> did it work? :)
[10:02] <diogo> I'd like to keep the whole system in English, but have portuguese support for a few specific users... Is that possible?
[10:02] <trigx300> i think i'll just try downloading a cd iso instead of the dvd iso
[10:02] <transgress> s|k: well if it installed then it should be in /usr/bin/PROGRAM
[10:02] <s|k> oh
[10:02] <transgress> s|k: did you install it via apt-get/synaptic?
[10:02] <s|k> transgress: yes, firestarter
[10:02] <ogra> DoTheRode, you reconfigured the linux-image package ? or ran update.initramfs ? #
[10:02] <jodanlime> can anybody help me with compiling from source?
[10:02] <s|k> transgress: I didn't know to look in that directory
[10:02] <LjL> diogo: i *think* you should simply install Portuguese support, and then have the "locale" variables (type "locale" to see them) set appropriately for each user. not that i really know that, though
[10:02] <DoTheRode> no, ogra
[10:03] <kidem> do any of you actually use other distro's? jsut curious
[10:03] <transgress> s|k: move it to the root directory / and then go from there...
[10:03] <LjL> kidem: debain
[10:03] <wevex> what is the easyest way of cheking if a folder exists (and maby set a flag) in a script?
[10:03] <LjL> debian even
[10:03] <ogra> DoTheRode, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:03] <jodanlime> kidem, I used suse and debian and a few other, little ones before
[10:03] <DoTheRode> k
[10:03] <x_or> Does anyone know how to use a bootable USB drive, with something like Trinity Rescue or the like?  I cannot figure out the dd command, thought it would be:   sudo dd if=Desktop/trinity-rescue-kit.3.1-build-210.iso of=/dev/sda
[10:03] <ogra> DoTheRode, then reboot
[10:03] <michael1> deusche sever?
[10:03] <diogo> LjL: Cool! Where do I properly set the locale variables system-wide and user-wide?
[10:03] <LjL> wevex: if [ -d file ] ; then blah; di
[10:03] <x_or> But, I am not sure if this should be of=/dev/sda1 or of=/dev/sda?
[10:03] <kidem> so i take Ubuntu doesnt have "make menuconfig" ?
[10:03] <LjL> wevex: also, "help test"
[10:03] <bjornkri> !de
[10:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:04] <michael1> kk
[10:04] <bjornkri> ;)
[10:04] <jodanlime> can somebody, anybody help me compile a package from source?
[10:04] <LjL> diogo: not really sure. i would do that in .bashrc, but i have no clue if that's the "right thing"
[10:04] <transgress> s|k: at a terminal type in (but don't press enter) /usr/bin/fires<TAB> and see if it finishes the file name for you
[10:04] <LjL> jodanlime: "apt-get -b source packagename"
[10:05] <s|k> transgress: weird, I don't see it in there
[10:05] <s|k> transgress: I did install it using synaptic though
[10:05] <diogo> LjL: Ok. Do you know if something like "dpkg-reconfigure language-pack-en" would restore English as the default system language?
[10:05] <jodanlime> LjL, its not in the ubuntu or debian packages, I have to compile it from source, I have the tarball in my home, it was a .tar.bz2 and now when I use ./configure it stops before it gets done
[10:06] <heishiro> Hello. I have a question... I have a Latin American Keyboard, but when i installed Ubuntu i selected a US keyboard... How can i change it?
[10:06] <EnsignRedshirt> s|k: Check the packages "properties" in Synaptic.  One of them is "Installed files" (or something like that).
[10:06] <LjL> diogo: don't really know, no
[10:06] <transgress> s|k: open synaptic, find the package, then view the details of it, it will tell you what it installed and where
[10:06] <sca1> jodanlime:  what error message did you get?
[10:06] <DoTheRode> ok
[10:06] <DoTheRode> let me reboot
[10:06] <jodanlime> sca1, just a sec,
[10:06] <paxmaster> i forgot the package to install x server
[10:06] <sca1> you are prob missing som lib packages
[10:06] <paxmaster> i have install a server on computer
[10:07] <jodanlime> sca1, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:07] <diogo> LjL: Damn... I'd really not like to do a full reinstall to restore language settings... :o(
[10:07] <sca1> jodanlime: try sudo apt-get install gcc make
[10:07] <j0nas`> can anyone give me a hand installing perl module for apache
[10:07] <kidem> hey does Ubuntu come with KDE?? Gnome << grrrrrrr
[10:07] <j0nas`> i installed perl module through synaptic
[10:08] <trigx300> KuDeTa: you still there?
[10:08] <s|k> transgress: it's in /usr/sbin what's the difference?
[10:08] <transgress> jodanlime: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:08] <heishiro> Hello. I have a question... I have a Latin American Keyboard, but when i installed Ubuntu i selected a US keyboard... How can i change it?
[10:08] <diogo> kidem: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:08] <Zorzside> i can't edit file in etc but i'm amministrator why?
[10:08] <jodanlime> scal, all right
[10:08] <j0nas`> now when i try to display a cgi file in my web browser i see the code instead of the generated file
[10:08] <transgress> s|k: /usr/sbin is for root to use... which means it's probably something you would be better just running from the command line or putting the gnome su program in front of the command
[10:08] <transgress> s|k: i'd suggest just running it from a terminal
[10:09] <trigx300> anyone here ever get kino to aquire from a dv tape
[10:09] <ara> heishiro:  system-> settings -> keyboard settings
[10:09] <LjL> diogo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf might help
[10:09] <trigx300> i have no idea where to start
[10:09] <Tom_Kidd> Ubuntu is saying my MP3 player has 9.3mb of space left not letting me stick more music on it. Right now, I know for a fact it has around 500-600mb left..
[10:09] <diogo> LjL: Yipee! :o)
[10:09] <s|k> transgress: okay, thanks
[10:09] <LjL> diogo: (and no, you definitely won't have to reinstall to do something like that. the fact that i don't know how it's done doesn't quite mean that it can't be done)
[10:10] <LjL> jodanlime: it stops like what?
[10:10] <kidem> Man...DL time
[10:10] <heishiro> ara. I got into System - Preferences, and then i got into Keyboard... I changed the keyboard layout there, and set the Latin American as default, but still got English even tho the US keyboard is not listed anymore
[10:10] <Pecisk> hi everyone, I had strange error in Ubuntu - I have two archives defined in sources.list, local one and main and I got no updates until I disabled one of them. It is bug, error or feature? :)
[10:11] <Trinitrogen> Does GParted resize NTFS partitions?
[10:11] <Zorzside>  i can't edit file in etc but i'm amministrator why? someone can help me?
[10:11] <heishiro> ara, I already rebooted the PC, and restarted X, and also changed three lines that were mentioned on a google post...
[10:11] <JDahl> Trinitrogen: yes
[10:11] <jodanlime> LjL, I tried the command you gave me, but it said no package build-essentials, its stops and tells me that C compiler cannot create executables
[10:11] <Trinitrogen> JDah: Im trying to shrink an NTFS partition, I've done it before on Knoppix and QTparted, but in gparted the resize is greyed out...
[10:12] <sca1> Zorzside: did you sudo to root ?
[10:12] <ITS_FOR_REAL> got problem with postfix. according to log my mail get bounced back.  my ordinary ftp client seems to work and it doesnt use postfix..
[10:12] <NaHuK> hi there, anyone's installed ISPConfig on breezy?
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> jodanlime: build-essential
[10:12] <Zorzside> i have only one log name zorzside
[10:12] <sca1> yeh.. you dont have privileges to edit things in /etc with that
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> jodanlime: No 's' at the end.
[10:12] <Zorzside> there is a standard password for root
[10:12] <JDahl> Trinitrogen: I only did it via the Ubuntu installer, but that worked perfectly
[10:12] <sca1> you must use the "sudo" or gksudo command
[10:13] <LjL> jodanlime: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:13] <jodanlime> EnsignRedshirt, thanks, that works
[10:13] <Zorzside> help me
[10:13] <sca1> Zorzside: its the same as your username password
[10:13] <jason__> how to installed a program?
[10:13] <Zorzside> what i have to do
[10:13] <jodanlime> I will try it now
[10:13] <LjL> !tell jason__ about apt
[10:13] <trigx300> anyone know how to get a dvcam to aquire??
[10:13] <sca1> Zorzside: are you using the terminal?
[10:13] <jason__> i'm a new linux user
[10:13] <Zorzside> yes
[10:13] <jason__> wad's apt?
[10:13] <sca1> write "sudo"
[10:13] <sca1> infront of your command
[10:13] <ara> heishiro: no idea then. Make sure your local locale is installed in ubuntu
[10:13] <Zorzside> ok
[10:13] <sca1> sudo yourcommand
[10:14] <LjL> jason__: the Ubuntu program packaging system
[10:14] <trigx300> im trying kino but it dosen't see my dvcam device
[10:14] <jason__> where to find?
[10:14] <jodanlime> all right, now it says "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[10:15] <ara> ara: heishiro : and choose a suitable keyboard model, if you have a weird kind of keyboard, though the standard one should work fine.
[10:15] <LjL> jason__: read the links Ubotu gave you. the explain it all
[10:15] <Zorzside> sca1 i have write sudo
[10:15] <EnsignRedshirt> jason__: Try the menu item: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[10:15] <LjL> jodanlime: "sudo aptitude install x-window-system-dev"
[10:15] <LjL> !tell jodanlime about compile
[10:15] <michael__6484351> I can't change my Ubuntu screen size.
[10:15] <brokengun> when will mac get wireless support?
[10:15] <jodanlime> LjL, thanks
[10:16] <michael__6484351> nm, gtg
[10:16] <jason__> ohh
[10:16] <jason__> i got it
[10:16] <esli_> so novo na area..
[10:16] <jason__> 10q very much :0
[10:16] <jason__> ;)
[10:16] <B_166-ER-X> Can someone help me ? i'm trying to make work a 'Microdia triplex i-mini Pc Camera'   on ubuntu breezy
[10:17] <esli_> im do Brasil
[10:17] <jason__> umm... can i ask questions?
[10:17] <jason__> how come MSN doesn't work on Gaim?
[10:18] <saif> hello, i just installed opensshserver using apt-get
[10:18] <polpak> saif, congratulations
[10:18] <jason__> Lee Jun Fun
[10:18] <jason__> where u from?
[10:18] <saif> but i try ssh user@localhost and it gives me an error ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[10:19] <saif> polpak, congratulate me when it works! :)
[10:19] <DoTheRodeo> it worked man
[10:19] <sbalneav> pitti: Hey there!
[10:19] <sbalneav> pitti: Good to see you.
[10:19] <potman> y a pa de francai?
[10:19] <saif> i tried adding sshd : ALL : ALLOW in hosts.allow it didnt work either
[10:19] <sagi> whats the package names for X11 libraries and headers?
[10:20] <jason__> how come my MSN doesn't worked on Gaim?
[10:20] <marlun_> Is there a program for gnome which only allows me to listen to internet radio streams?
[10:20] <polpak> !fr
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <marlun_> I don't want a music player, I want a app who only does radio :)
[10:20] <sagi> marlun_; mplayer should do the job
[10:20] <EnsignRedshirt> marlun_: I use RealPlayer.
[10:20] <sagi> streamtuner is ded to radio streams on the internet
[10:21] <marlun_> I'll test mplayer since I allready have it installed.
[10:21] <polpak> saif, .... it worked fine for me
[10:21] <sagi> you could use it too
[10:21] <heishiro> ara, thanks a lot anyway.. I have a Microsoft Keyboard, but im not using any special functions or anything.
[10:21] <polpak> saif, did you change your sshd_config at all?
[10:21] <marlun_> sagi, can mplayer play shoutcast radiostations?
[10:21] <sagi> yes
[10:21] <suppaman> byte
[10:21] <suppaman> bye
[10:21] <jodanlime> LjL, wow, that download is huge on dial up, is there any other way? is it on the cd?
[10:22] <chris_> hey i need help FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. any ideas?
[10:22] <sbalneav> Hmmm, I've got an AMD sempron 2600+ Gigabyte GA-k8vm800m mobo + 1G of ram.  The ia64 image is what I want, yes?
[10:22] <trigx300> what was the fstab update command again?
[10:22] <B_166-ER-X> Can someone help me ? i'm trying to make work a 'Microdia triplex i-mini Pc Camera'   on ubuntu breezy
[10:22] <saif> polpak, nop, i just followed the steps in ubuntu guide and they didn't mention changing anything
[10:22] <LjL> jodanlime: don't think
[10:22] <jodanlime> LjL, darn
[10:22] <LjL> jodanlime: what program are you trying to compile?
[10:23] <jodanlime> LjL, a hearts card game for my dad
[10:23] <polpak> saif, that's very odd. I just did sudo apt-get install openssh-server and was able to ssh user@localhost w/o error
[10:23] <polpak> saif, the only thing it did was prompt me to accept the RSA fingerprint
[10:23] <saif> polpak, weird!
[10:23] <LjL> jodanlime: perhaps i could compile it for you if you like
[10:23] <marino> UBUNTU ROCKS !!!
[10:23] <marino> bye
[10:23] <chris_> hey i need help FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. any ideas?
[10:24] <saif> i'll try reconfiguring it now, dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server maybe?
[10:24] <sagi> whats the package names for X11 libraries and headers? Licq qt-gui configure claims i don't have them.
[10:24] <sca1> chris:
[10:24] <LjL> sagi: x-window-system-dev
[10:24] <sca1> have you "created" the module?
[10:24] <polpak> saif, worth a shot
[10:24] <sca1> after loading it
[10:24] <chris_> sca1, i did ndiswrapper -m
[10:24] <saif> polpak, nop just restarted it!
[10:24] <chris_> it said this
[10:24] <sagi> thank you ;)
[10:24] <chris_> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[10:24] <chris_> sca1,
[10:25] <saif> polpak, if i try ssh to a machine from the same machine, does it make a problem ( i.e. ssh localhost)
[10:25] <marlun_> sagi, if I want to start mplayer from streamtuner, got an idea on how to do it? "mplayer %q" didn't work.
[10:25] <LjL> sagi: also, sure you could not use "licq-plugin-kde" or "licq-plugin-qt"?
[10:25] <jason__> LjL: Y my MSN doesn't worked on Gaim?
[10:25] <jodanlime> LjL, wow, that would be awesome if you could do that and just send me the .deb or something, its really small
[10:25] <LabThug> Which package do I need to install to be able to print to PDFs?
[10:25] <LjL> jodanlime: if i can get it to compile, sure. i have a fast connection. what's the file?
[10:25] <sagi> LjL: i have to use kde for it?
[10:25] <LjL> jason__: i don't use MSN, sorry
[10:25] <saif> polpak, and restarting it worked! hehe
[10:26] <sca1> chris: check for anything with ndiswrapper in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases.. if there is something remove it..
[10:26] <jason__> oops
[10:26] <LjL> sagi: no, "licq-plugin-qt" shouldn't need kde
[10:26] <sagi> marlun_: no clue
[10:26] <jason__> anyone using MSN here?
[10:26] <marlun_> ok ;)
[10:26] <LjL> sagi: anyway, just try "apt-cache search licq". there is a choice of various front-ends
[10:26] <jodanlime> LjL, its at sourceforge.net, if you search for hearts its the first one on the least of the search
[10:26] <sca1> jason__: yeh
[10:26] <nickrud> LabThug, cups-pdf , be sure to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf
[10:26] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[10:26] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:26] <EnsignRedshirt> LabThug: I tried cups-pdf just yesterday, but I wasn't able to get it working.
[10:26] <sagi> LjL apt got an old version, i'm using source..
[10:26] <kidem> GoD -- will i go to heaven? hehehehe
[10:26] <LjL> sagi: i see
[10:26] <LabThug> nickrud: EnsignRedshirt ty
[10:27] <sagi> i'll have to install qt tho :P
[10:27] <jason__> scal: wad program works on MSN?
[10:27] <LjL> jodanlime: what do you mean "on the least of the search"? is it this one, http://sourceforge.net/projects/hearts ?
[10:27] <trigx300> can anyone help with a nf4 raid (ntfs 2 x sata 3.0gb) with important data on it
[10:27] <sca1> jason__: i use gaim.. had problems logging on today though
[10:27] <sca1> think its the MS servers
[10:27] <jason__> ya
[10:27] <jason__> me having the same problem 2
[10:28] <jason__> icic
[10:28] <chris_> sca1, theres nothing with *NDIS* in it
[10:28] <jodanlime> LjL, yeah, sorry, I meant list but thats the one
[10:28] <chris_> SMN Is Down atm
[10:28] <HymnToLife> it works again for me
[10:28] <chris_> there doing some kind of work
[10:28] <chris_> sca1, theres nothing with *NDIS* in it
[10:29] <jason__> scal: does MSN works wif Gaim everytime?
[10:29] <chris_> lsusb
[10:29] <chris_> ops
[10:29] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Postfix fault: host smtp.bredband.net[195.54.106.231]  said: 553
[10:29] <ITS_FOR_REAL>     localhost.localdomain does not exist       What to do? i dont understand...
[10:29] <trigx300> LjL, can u help me with an NF4 raid (ntfs 2 x sata 3.0gb) with important data on it
[10:29] <trigx300> ??
[10:29] <sca1> jason__: never had problems with it
[10:29] <chris_> scal, its saying its installed but not listed in the Networking in Administration
[10:29] <sca1> as long as the servers are working
[10:29] <jason__> scal: ic... thx
[10:30] <LjL> trigx300: don't think, i'm not so lucky to have RAID
[10:30] <sca1> chris what does "dmesg" in terminal say
[10:30] <jason__> scal: i'm using Linux moments ago
[10:30] <jason__> still having problems to understand
[10:30] <chris_> [4340748.985000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:30] <chris_> [4340749.110000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[10:30] <trigx300> i think i quiet unlucky to have it actualy
[10:30] <trigx300> Im*
[10:30] <trigx300> lol
[10:31] <chris_> scal, ^^
[10:31] <jodanlime> how do I PM somebody on this?
[10:31] <sca1> chris: did you get ndiswrapper from apt-get ?
[10:31] <chris_> yea sca1
[10:31] <weedar> After installing/compiling 2.6.14 kernel I'm having trouble with mounting ntfs/fat32 - Does anyone have a solution to this? :)
[10:32] <chris_> shall i remove and reinstall sca1
[10:32] <sca1> yeh worth a shot
[10:32] <blekos> hi guys I just got an iPaw running win mob 5, is ti possible to be sync with linux? or even better be replaced?
[10:32] <chris_> okat
[10:32] <chris_> (okay
[10:32] <LjL> jodanlime: i suppose you have QT installed? that program needs it
[10:32] <LjL> jodanlime: the whole KDE, actually
[10:33] <blekos> i meant HP iPaq pocket pc
[10:33] <LjL> blekos: "apt-cache search synce". doesn't always work too well for me
[10:33] <sagi> i hate licq.
[10:33] <sagi> :P
[10:33] <LabThug> hmmm, it's installed, I have a new Postscript printer in the drop down.  When I go to print it says 1,2,3,...,N pages printed.  Where is the PDF file?
[10:34] <LjL> !tell blekos about sync
[10:34] <jodanlime> LjL, I dont have all of KDE installed, but I have a lot of it, I have some other kde programs but not KDE
[10:34] <LjL> jodanlime: ok, that should do
[10:34] <jodanlime> LjL, thats what I figured, how do I get the file after you compile it for me? you wanna email it to me?
[10:35] <chris_> sca1, i actually compile ndiswrapper
[10:35] <LjL> jodanlime: email, DCC (but it rarely works for me) or if it's small i can publish it on a web site
[10:35] <sca1> oh, a read on the net that the error you got most likely came from an error when compiling
[10:35] <sca1> I
[10:36] <jodanlime> LjL, my email is this screen name _at_gmail_dot_com
[10:36] <chris_> sca1, how do i remove?
[10:36] <LjL> jodanlime: bad news right now, make failed with an error. got to look at it
[10:36] <sca1> did you still have the source directory try make remove, make unistall or something like that
[10:37] <chris_> okay
[10:37] <chris_> lemme try
[10:37] <jodanlime> LjL, ok, thanks for all your help
[10:37] <sca1> afaik, not everything you get from source has any unstall option
[10:37] <EnsignRedshirt> LabThug: I had the same question :)  But it wasn't urgent for me, and I had other things to do, so I never bothered to find out.
[10:37] <LjL> jodanlime: the place that causes the error is a C++ file using templates. i'll give it a try fixing it but i'm not really familiar with that kind of thing
[10:37] <LabThug> EnsignRedshirt: apparently, the printer keeps "pausing"  which driver did you use?
[10:38] <EnsignRedshirt> LabThug: If I recall... I think the model was "generic postscript", and then something with "(dev3)" or "(ver3)" in it.
[10:38] <sca1> chris ive had good sucess using the ndisgtk package from apt
[10:39] <sca1> its a good gui for ndiswrapper
[10:39] <chris_> sca1,
[10:39] <chris_> chris@cpc2-burn2-5-0-cust125:~/ndiswrapper-1.10$ sudo make uninstall
[10:39] <chris_> NOTE: Not all installed files are removed, as different distributions install ndiswrapper files at different places.
[10:39] <chris_> Run uninstall as many times as necessary until no "removing" messages appear below.
[10:39] <EnsignRedshirt> LabThug: Wait, I still have it installed (duh).  "postscript-color-printer-(rev3)"
[10:39] <pder> can ubuntu be installed on a computer?
[10:39] <s|k> in what country is it illegal to play mp3 players in linux?
[10:39] <ompaul> pder, yes
[10:40] <blekos> LjL i dont have a usb directory...
[10:40] <polpak> pder, yep. You just need to use the install cd
[10:40] <G0SUB> Seveas there?
[10:40] <LjL> jodanlime: think i've fixed that
[10:40] <Seveas> G0SUB, yes
[10:40] <jodanlime> LjL, awesome!
[10:40] <sca1> chris_ yup
[10:40] <LjL> s|k: in the U.S. for example, if you don't have a licence to the MP3 related patents
[10:40] <chris_> ?
[10:40] <pder> does ubuntu support input devices such as keyboards?
[10:41] <chris_> scal removing /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper
[10:41] <chris_> /bin/rm: cannot remove `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper': Is a directory
[10:41] <LjL> pder: ... sorry?
[10:41] <chris_> shall i remove manually?
[10:41] <sca1> rm -rf it
[10:41] <geargolem> what wav files are supported in the sequencer?
[10:41] <sca1> it will be recreated when you do a new install
[10:41] <chris_> okay
[10:41] <chris_> removed
[10:42] <pder> i have a keyboard that i wish to use with ubuntu.  does ubuntu support keyboards?
[10:42] <polpak> LjL, I think he's being facetious.
[10:42] <LjL> i would suppose so =)
[10:42] <KuDeTa> pder
[10:42] <KuDeTa> no
[10:42] <KuDeTa> go get xp
[10:42] <Jowi> no pder. only thought-control are supported :)
[10:42] <polpak> LjL, or just asinine.
[10:42] <s|k> LjL: but it's not illegal to play the mp3 format though right? the wording in the wiki is ambigious, all my music is legal
[10:43] <KuDeTa> there is agpl version of mp3
[10:43] <KuDeTa> if im not mistaken?
[10:43] <sca1> chris then do a "apt-get install ndisgtk"
[10:43] <LjL> s|k: technically, i'm afraid it'd be illegal, if you don't have a valid license to using the MP3 patents. that's why formats like Ogg were invented
[10:43] <chris_> okay
[10:43] <chris_> installing
[10:43] <polpak> s|k, the best thing to do would be to re-rip it into ogg format, OR convert. But reripping will give better sound quality
[10:44] <LjL> polpak: even ripping would mean decoding the MP3s, and thus violating the patents.
[10:44] <polpak> LjL, no, I mean re-ripping from his CD's
[10:44] <s|k> I didn't know that
[10:44] <LjL> polpak: i see
[10:44] <s|k> I'm going to use ogg then
[10:44] <[Leo] > hi all
[10:44] <blocky> can someone tell me why i cant apt-get opera
[10:44] <LjL> s|k: using ogg is a good choice, but keep in mind that many USB players and things like that don't support it
[10:44] <polpak> !info opera
[10:45] <trappist> blocky: it's not free, strictly speaking.
[10:45] <LjL> !tell blocky about opera
[10:45] <chris_> sca1,  it says installed now what?
[10:45] <blocky> well i downloaded the deb from their site
[10:45] <polpak> LjL, so he'll just have to use ones that do ;p
[10:45] <blocky> but it has endless dependencies
[10:45] <sca1> either you can use ndiswrapper in the command line, like usuall
[10:45] <sca1> or you can run ndisgtk which is a gui for it
[10:45] <Zoo> hi all
[10:46] <polpak> LjL, or store them on his PC as ogg, and convert to mp3 when he exports to his player
[10:46] <chris_> lolz
[10:46] <LjL> polpak: guess so. can be hard if he already owns one that doesn't
[10:46] <chris_> i said its says its installed.
[10:46] <LjL> polpak: that's an option, but takes time and degrades quality
[10:46] <sca1> lol ah sorry
[10:46] <polpak> s|k, ogg is a better format anyway for audiophiles
[10:46] <sca1> did you use the gui?
[10:46] <chris_> yea
[10:46] <polpak> LjL, well either he gets a new one, or he lives with poorer quality.. Not much you can do with inferior file formats
[10:47] <polpak> LjL, ;p
[10:47] <sca1> does it show up under network interfaces now?
[10:47] <LjL> jodanlime: the program is compiled and it executes, though i cannot actually get it to play... =)
[10:47] <chris_> chris@cpc2-burn2-5-0-cust125:~$ sudo ndisgtk
[10:47] <chris_> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[10:47] <chris_> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[10:47] <alex__> hi
[10:47] <ompaul> s|k, .ie can't do decryption without a "licence" granted by someone to legalise the ownership of the device not proved in court but .....
[10:47] <jodanlime> LjL, well, that sucks
[10:47] <Zoo> ubuntu is so much fun
[10:47] <alex__> can anyone help me so that I can access my sata drive
[10:47] <LjL> polpak: well if he has the files as MP3 to begin with, the quality won't suffer. it might still be inferior to an Ogg, but it'll definitely be much better than Ogg->mp3
[10:47] <alex__> it's not being detected
[10:47] <Zoo> Just can't wait til Next month :-)
[10:48] <LjL> jodanlime: it's got a client-server architecture that i'm not sure i'm understarting
[10:48] <LjL> jodanlime: suppose i could read the README
[10:48] <chris_> sca1,
[10:48] <chris_> Installed ndis drivers:
[10:48] <chris_> rt73    driver present, hardware present
[10:48] <Zoo> i installed ubuntu to my workstation using a usb 2.0 dvd :+ r + rw :P
[10:48] <jodanlime> Ljl, so you have to be online to play it or can you play against AI?
[10:48] <Zoo> i KNOW I'll be a good asset to helping others :-)
[10:49] <LjL> jodanlime: it looks like you should be able to play against AI, i just can't get it to
[10:49] <blocky> Unpacking opera (from opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb) ...
[10:49] <blocky> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[10:49] <blocky>  opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[10:49] <blocky>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[10:49] <blocky> can anyone help me out
[10:49] <polpak> pls don't paste in here
[10:49] <polpak> use pastebin
[10:49] <blocky> apologies
[10:50] <chris_> sca1,  u there?
[10:50] <blocky> anyone got opera running on dapper tho
[10:50] <alex__> can anyone help me so that I can access my sata drive, please?
[10:50] <jodanlime> LjL, hmmmmm, I could always download the file late tonight and try to compile it myself, but it prolly wont work for me if its not working for you
[10:50] <blocky> xlib6g has no installable candidate
[10:50] <ompaul> blocky, dapper move to #ubuntu+1 it is not for here
[10:50] <ompaul> blocky, thanks
[10:50] <cycus_zwisus> may I?
[10:50] <jodanlime> LjL, thanks for all the help, but I have to go now, I hope to be on later and email me if you keep working on it, thanks for you time
[10:50] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:50] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:51] <LjL> jodanlime: ok
[10:51] <jodanlime> LjL, thanks alot
[10:51] <alex__> ok, ubuntu doesn't see my sata drive, any advice? (i need drivers?)
[10:51] <chris_> sca1,  u there?
[10:52] <ompaul> alex__, what version of Ubuntu?
[10:52] <alex__> 5.1 version
[10:52] <Zoo> hi everyone
[10:53] <redguy> alex__: there is no such version
[10:53] <HymnToLife> strange
[10:53] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu is the only distro to see my SATA
[10:53] <Zoo> I can't wait til the the next release, my AMD Athlon XP 2600, was having problems with.. checking something to do with battery status, and its not even a laptop lol
[10:53] <HymnToLife> evensarge won't (Woody does though)
[10:53] <Zoo> HymnToLife,
[10:53] <ompaul> redguy I think you meant to say is that 5.10
[10:53] <blekos> does anybody know how to install the ipaq module??
[10:53] <HymnToLife> yeah ?
[10:53] <Zoo> yeah its great for hardware detection, there are a copule other systems that can as well :-)
[10:54] <Zoo> like for instance, I use a few other,s and unix as well and Windows,
[10:54] <Zoo> because I have too, as an IT engineer, etc
[10:54] <ompaul> alex__, what makes you think that it does not see the drives?
[10:54] <chris_> sca1,  u there?
[10:54] <alex__> yeah, 5.10
[10:54] <Zoo> I found this really cool book on ubuntu
[10:54] <richard_> how can i validate data in c languaje?
[10:55] <eletido> Zoo, whats the name of the book?
[10:55] <polpak> richard_, I'm not sure what you mean
[10:55] <[Leo] > richard_: what kind of data?
[10:55] <Zoo> hi eletido
[10:55] <alex__> ompaul, how would I know for sure?
[10:55] <Zoo> 1 sec
[10:55] <redguy> ompaul: i might have said that. the meaning would be albost the same
[10:55] <jdmpike> hello anyone, does anyone know how to restart the Enlightened Sound Dameon?
[10:55] <alex__> ompaul, I can't mount anything like /dev/sda
[10:55] <Zoo> it was a guide, done that doesn't have anything to do with canocical
[10:55] <ompaul> redguy  :-)
[10:55] <redguy> jdmpike: sudo invoke-rc.d esd restart
[10:55] <eletido> Zoo, ah, ok.
[10:56] <Zoo> I can't wait to get some apparel though, from ubuntu shop cafe :)
[10:56] <TU> how do i install blackdown java?
[10:56] <redguy> jdmpike: or sudo /etc/init.d/esd restart
[10:56] <TU> it can't find it
[10:56] <ompaul> alex__, what hard drives are in the machine?
[10:56] <Zoo> I also, would like to send a card, with some drinkin money , or coffee money to the programmers :-)
[10:56] <TU> i have all the extra repositories added
[10:56] <chris_> anybody help with my ndiswrapper problem?
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> I would so buy a shirt with "Ask me about Ubuntu Linux" on it.
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> Or a button would do.
[10:56] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, ->>> cafe press with a new design :-)
[10:57] <alex__> 2 drives: sata and regular ide drive
[10:57] <Zoo> hey eletido
[10:57] <richard_> polpak, [Leo]  : For example i want to confirm that user enter strings and no numbers in c languaje?
[10:57] <thebrose> does anyone in here have knowledge of setting up AD authentication on an ubuntu box?
[10:57] <ompaul> alex__, disconnect the ide and see how you go
[10:57] <weedar> chris_, just ask your question
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Well, I just have the words, I'll have to enlist my Arts major friends for design!
[10:57] <chris_> well i did
[10:57] <[Leo] > richard_:  first of all: language, not languaje :D
[10:57] <jdmpike> redguy, that doesn't work for me
[10:57] <polpak> richard_, from stdin ?
[10:57] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, that would kewl
[10:57] <Zoo> it does a really good explination, of other things, for making ubuntu alot more fun to work with, mounting other file systems.. gets to the point
[10:57] <alex__> but my OS is on the other drive
[10:58] <Zoo> taking away the artwork splash, etc. thing I want to do is..
[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> richard_: Try joining #C
[10:58] <Zoo> stop all the services that I don't need.. make like a FreeBSD ubuntu :D
[10:58] <eletido> Zoo, where can i find the book?
[10:58] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, get sanctioned by canonical when done, then it gets passed around
[10:58] <redguy> !doesn't work
[10:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[10:58] <Zoo> :P
[10:58] <Zoo> 1 sec
[10:58] <Zoo> can I send to you on gaim.. ?
[10:58] <Zoo> or kopete?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: What does that mean?
[10:58] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, get it made popular
[10:58] <richard_> polpak : yes from stdin
[10:58] <redguy> jdmpike: see what ubotu thinks about saying "doesn't work"
[10:58] <eletido> Zoo, gaim works.
[10:59] <chris_> rt73 driver present, hardware present + modprobe config already contains alias directive + FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. , Ideas?
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Ah.
[10:59] <Zoo> k
[10:59] <Zoo> 1 sec
[10:59] <Zoo> this what else I am going be doing
[10:59] <redguy> jdmpike: waht do you want to do actually?
[10:59] <Zoo> are any of you familar with VMware workstation, for linux or windows
[10:59] <eletido> Zoo, no.
[10:59] <alex__> ompaul, I have my OS on the ide drive. I just want to use the sata drive for storage
[11:00] <Zoo> nah?
[11:00] <Zoo> what about TechSmith CAmtasia Studio?
[11:00] <chris_> rt73 driver present, hardware present + modprobe config already contains alias directive + FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. , Ideas?
[11:00] <[Leo] > richard_: try use regexp
[11:00] <Makaraki> hi guys I have some problems, first I can not hear sound from mozilla watching youtube.com video, but I can hear music in rhytmbox, and before I used to hear audio in the video you tube
[11:00] <eletido> nope.
[11:00] <jdmpike> redguy, I am just wanting to restart esd so that skype will load the audio
[11:00] <ompaul> alex__ okay so do you have it actually installed on the ide drive?
[11:00] <jdmpike> redguy, skype is such a piece of junk on linux
[11:01] <alex__> ompaul, yes,  the OS is on that drive
[11:01] <redguy> jdmpike: esd is also not perfect :-)
[11:01] <Zoo> I am going record in realtime, how to use linux and unix systems..
[11:01] <ompaul> alex__ then run this >>sudo fdisk -l<<  and see if it sees the drives, what kind of format is on those satas? are they both windows or something
[11:01] <Ctux> so novato da pra me ajudar?
[11:01] <chris_> rt73 driver present, hardware present + modprobe config already contains alias directive + FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. , Ideas?
[11:01] <blekos> any ideas how to install a module?
[11:01] <ompaul> !br
[11:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:01] <redguy> jdmpike: maybe you have to stop esd? sudo invoke-rc.d esd stop
[11:02] <Zoo> video, audio and all, all done @ professional quality, like I do for Windows.. systems.. mainly Windows XP , etc, and the new Windows Vista, etc..
[11:02] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system - can anybody help?
[11:02] <Makaraki> hi guys I have some problems, first I can not hear sound from mozilla watching youtube.com video, but I can hear music in rhytmbox, and before I used to hear audio in the video you tube
[11:02] <redguy> blekos: depends on the kind of module you want to install. if it's a memory module pfor example all you have to do is to place it in the memory slot
[11:03] <jdmpike> redguy, what do you recommend using - btw, /etc/init.d/esd is not found
[11:03] <blekos> i want to install module usbserial...
[11:03] <chris_> rt73 driver present, hardware present + modprobe config already contains alias directive + FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. , Ideas?
[11:03] <alex__> ompaul: i was mistaken, the drive is seen
[11:03] <Makaraki> sorry but where do I have to go to find some help in spanish?
[11:03] <redguy> jdmpike: you sure that you have ESD installed?
[11:03] <redguy> !es
[11:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:04] <Makaraki> uou
[11:04] <bimberi> chris_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:04] <Zoo> catch file eletido
[11:04] <bimberi> jdmpike: killall esd ??
[11:05] <richard_> [Leo] : in which library can i find this command?
[11:05] <alex__> ompaul, if I want to mount the sata drive (/dev/sda) and I believe it's ntfs, can I just say "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda/ /media/sata
[11:05] <[Leo] > richard_: it's not a command
[11:05] <[Leo] > search regular expression
[11:05] <redguy> huh? esd is not started with an initscript?
[11:05] <KuDeTa> would someone mind explaining what kernel headers are for me..or mind pointing me in the right direction
[11:05] <redguy> is it started by gnome's xsession?
[11:05] <Zoo> I might, make Mandriva 2006 PowerPack, into my firewall/router and connect also with my ubuntu system :P
[11:05] <alex__> ompaul, is that the right filesystem type for mount, for ntfs?
[11:05] <Zoo> with my laptop :-) even though I already got a router :P
[11:05] <[Leo] > richard_:  and look for regular expression in C
[11:06] <jdmpike> redguy, I see it running in system monitor
[11:06] <redguy> jdmpike: my bad, you should do what bimberi said to stop esd
[11:06] <Zoo> hey.. anyone in here.. good at ubuntu....
[11:06] <redguy> jdmpike: to start it again you could run esd & in the terminal.
[11:06] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system, also the first iso mounts ok, but it dosen't work properly - can anyone help?
[11:07] <ecen> hi! i installed ubuntu but it never asked me where to install the boot loader and what boot loader to use, it just installed grub on my disk. is there a way to change the boot loader to lilo for instance? is there a way to create a floppy boot loader?
[11:07] <bimberi> redguy: not sure what starts it, runs as the user though so it's probably in X/Gnome init somewhere
[11:07] <Zoo> yeah ecen
[11:07] <ompaul> alex__, to make it available the whole time there is a resource I will point you to, don't try writing to it, that is not supported
[11:07] <Zoo> expert mode :-)
[11:07] <ompaul> !tell alex__ about ntfs
[11:07] <Zoo> :P
[11:07] <ompaul> alex__, see the doc from the bot
[11:08] <eth0> i think i need bchunk to generate one iso not two?
[11:09] <ecen> Zoo: how expert mode? i didnt notice that in the setup, is there a way to choose expert mode?
[11:09] <redguy> bimberi: ISTR that it is started when the user logs on... Why isn't it started at bootup is a mystery to me
[11:09] <jdmpike> skype is so terrible for Linux, it is sad - ebay gave them 2.4 billion dollars - they can afford to hire four linux hackers to make it the best voip program ever for the platform
[11:09] <chris_> any1 help with this Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[11:09] <chris_> Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:10] <Tutankamon> #error Kernel only header included in userspace
[11:10] <Zoo> yeah
[11:10] <Tutankamon> what can i do ?
[11:10] <Zoo> you would have to type tis on boot
[11:10] <HymnToLife> !tell chris_ about pstebin
[11:10] <Zoo> you could like.. what I did sometime.. is typed.. this at cd boot etc..
[11:10] <HymnToLife> !tell chris_ about pastebin
[11:10] <Zoo> ->   expert vga-771
[11:10] <Zoo> -> expert vga=771 *
[11:11] <Zoo> you can choose the debconf priority etc.. and other things.. but just make sure you know what you doing..
[11:11] <bimberi> redguy: kinda makes sense though, each login in a multiuser system would want their own sound daemon
I need to break something</rant>
[11:12] <ecen> Zoo: are there deafult values in expert mode so I change only the things that I know?
something must be broken</rant>
[11:12] <ecen> i meant "default"
[11:12] <Zoo> I think you can change the boot loader, with a sudo command etc
[11:12] <chris_> if someone could help id have no need to post 2 lines.
[11:12] <nickrud> cwillu_, rm /etc, that'll do it
[11:12] <redguy> bimberi: and what if the soundcard can't do hardware mixing and you can't run more than one instance of esd?
[11:12] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[11:12] <ubotu> from memory, bootoptions is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[11:12] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system, also the first iso mounts ok, but it dosen't work properly - can anyone help?
[11:12] <cwillu_> I _do_ have a recent backup
[11:12] <Zoo> you can do everything, with just commands, etc.. but I dont every dang thing about linux systems or unix. even though I been using it year and 1/2 :-)
[11:12] <cwillu_> I'm tempted :p
[11:12] <ecen> Zoo: I'm new to linux so I dont know much of commands
[11:13] <alex__> bimberi: does your screenname have anything to do with the movie "The Importance of Being Erneast"
[11:13] <oatis> Hi, whats a good audio program for gnome?
[11:13] <bimberi> redguy: no good in that situation, but i'm thinking of an LTSP setup
[11:13] <nickrud> cwillu_, riight
[11:13] <cwillu_> I imaged right before I went to dapper :p
[11:13] <Jowi> !tell oatis about ubuntustudio
[11:13] <ecen> Zoo: but I want ubuntu to use lilo (not grub) and floppy (not disk)
[11:13] <shiv> I trying to use the citrix client rdesktop. It won't start at all. Waht am I doing wrong?
[11:13] <bimberi> alex__: no, didn't realist it got mentioned in that
[11:13] <bimberi> *realise :)
[11:14] <alex__> bimberi, well I think it's actually something along the lines of bumberi in the movie.........
[11:14] <redguy> bimberi: hrm, I see now
[11:14] <Zoo> oh..
[11:14] <ecen> i will google the expert mode to see how it works, thank you
[11:14] <Zoo> well.. I don't care for floppy disk :-)
[11:14] <green_earz> jdmpike: a handy sip voip app is >  Kphone   but for good voip i would say a hardware sip phone is the best grandstrean are very good anp price they are the cheapest
[11:15] <chris_> sca1,  u there?
[11:15] <bimberi> alex__: ah, no, my derivation is geographical - hightest peak in the Australian Capital Territory :)
[11:16] <Zoo> me and next ubuntu release goin be friends. it run nice on my workstation.. like how ubuntu runs nice on my laptop ;)
[11:16] <DoTheRodeo> is BSD, unix?
[11:16] <bimberi> *highest
[11:16] <Zoo> unix clone :-)
[11:16] <DoTheRodeo> ic
[11:16] <alex__> bimberi: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:16] <Zoo> pretty much yeah though, they released System V etc. to California, Berkeley
[11:16] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system, also the first iso mounts ok, but it dosen't work properly - can anyone help?
[11:16] <Zoo> I like.. DesktopBSD :-)
[11:17] <alex__> so if ubuntu sees a drive of mine, how can I tell what fs the drive is formatted as?
[11:17] <iGotNoTime> System/ Admin / Disks
[11:17] <Zoo> ?
[11:17] <kerneld> alex__: Want the hard way? not that hard
[11:17] <ompaul> alex__ when you type >>sudo fdisk -l << it tells you look at what you did already
[11:17] <Zoo> dam kubuntu alpha flight going fast with this.. usb 2.0 DVD + r _ RW I am installing it with lolol :P
[11:18] <bimberi> alex__: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  (or whatever device)
[11:18] <iGotNoTime> or from terminal window : cat /proc/partitions
[11:18] <iGotNoTime> I think?
[11:18] <alex__> ah I see
[11:19] <Zoo> ubuntu breezy badger 5.10, just wasn't doing enough performance for me, like it can do on my laptop, guess becase my laptop. 512 mb of ram,ddr 2, however , My workstation, has more graphic performance, 128 nvidia GeForce FX , but need to get. 1 GB ram for it, or 2 max... :-)
[11:19] <chris_> any1 help with this Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:19] <netgear-hax3r> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[11:20] <iGotNoTime> what is the URL of the big repository for apps that will work with Ubuntu? I am looking for a particular SIP phone
[11:20] <kerneld> alex__: dd count=1 bs=512 of=fshead.bin if=/dev/hda3 (or whatever); file fshead.bin
[11:20] <Zoo> lol
[11:20] <Zoo> kicked for what?
[11:20] <Zoo> :P
[11:20] <marlun_> Is there a UML app for gnome? =)
[11:20] <curley_sue> hi, anyone knows how to configure colours in urxvt?
[11:20] <alex__> ok, I need to partition the sata drive-- use fsck?
[11:20] <colm> marlun_, monouml, but it's a bit "young"
[11:20] <kerneld> marlun_: dia + spme scripts, sort of
[11:21] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system, also the first iso mounts ok, but it dosen't work properly - can anyone help?
[11:21] <iGotNoTime> Alex: big magnet :)
[11:21] <kerneld> s/spme/some/
[11:21] <Jowi> Zoo: the thing he typed will disconnect certain routers. a bug in their firmware.
[11:21] <crimsun> curley_sue: you'd need to configure the URxvt resources vi ~/.Xresources, then use xrdb -merge
[11:21] <colm> marlun_, I use Umbrello - does maybe 60% of what I need
[11:21] <Zoo> ah
[11:21] <Zoo> :-)
[11:21] <wastrel> what's uml?
[11:21] <Zoo> thought he was the bug.. :)
[11:21] <iGotNoTime> is it a different command for SATA?
[11:21] <colm> marlun_, also some good eclipse ones (names escape me at the moment, free ones in addition to RSM)
[11:21] <marlun_> colm, Didn't like the kde aspect of it =/
[11:21] <shiv> I trying to use the citrix client rdesktop. It won't start at all. Waht am I doing wrong?
[11:22] <mmdf_xp> ubuntu floppy network install?
[11:22] <Zoo> lol.. like debian netinst LOL
[11:22] <kidem> Citrix has client d=for Ubuntu?
[11:22] <alex__> I was thinking something like "sudo fsck.reiserfs /dev/sda", yeah?
[11:22] <Zoo> ubuntu has a netinst?
[11:22] <jetscreamer> no you use fdisk to partition.. fsck is check file systems...
[11:22] <kidem> fs/d=for/for
[11:22] <eth0> hi, im using bchunk and it always makes 2 .ISOs from the bin/cue files and the second iso is never mountable when i try to mount it to my file system, also the first iso mounts ok, but it dosen't work properly - can anyone help?
[11:22] <kidem> lol
[11:22] <iGotNoTime> Alex: I am new I don't know
[11:23] <Zoo> ;)
[11:23] <colm> marlun_, there is also one written in python, but the name escapes me... apt-cache search uml  - (ignore the user mode linux entries ;-)
[11:23] <mmdf_xp> ubuntu floppy network install??
[11:23] <Zoo> oh ll
[11:23] <Zoo> Ubugtu,  lol
[11:23] <jetscreamer> and if you're fsck'ing you fsck a partition not an hd
[11:23] <ompaul> alex__, fire up >>sudo fdisk /dev/sda<< and work from there
[11:23] <Zoo> didn't look at the nick.. had bug in it :P
[11:23] <SAM_theman> ubotu :FIREFOX
[11:23] <jetscreamer> so fsck /dev/sda1 if that's what you want
[11:24] <ompaul> alex__, just think then follow the menu the onscreen is useful
[11:24] <jetscreamer> you don't have to specify reiser or anything it should figure it out
[11:24] <Zoo> hey.. any Engineers here.. ?
[11:24] <Zoo> or am I only 1 :(
[11:24] <HymnToLife> Zoo> in the process of becoming one :p
[11:24] <SAM_theman> ubotu :firefox 1.5.0.1
[11:24] <ubotu> SAM_theman: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:24] <Zoo> hee :)
[11:24] <bimberi> Zoo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[11:24] <Zoo> been in the process.. am :-)
[11:24] <chris_> any1 help with this Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:25] <SAM_theman> how do I install firefox 1.5.0.1 on ubuntu 5.10?
[11:25] <marlun_> colm, Gaphor seems nice...
[11:25] <Zoo> installing alpha flight. test 4.. using usb 2.0 dvd. working great :-)
[11:25] <bimberi> ubotu tell SAM_theman about ff1.5
[11:25] <SAM_theman> theres a site but can't seem to remember it
[11:25] <rukuartic> !tell SAM_theman about firefox 1.5
[11:25] <rukuartic> Rats its on the wiki...
[11:25] <rukuartic> I'll get ya a page
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <mmdf_xp> ubuntu floppy network install??
[11:25] <rukuartic> -.-
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:25] <rubenex> xe panya!!
[11:25] <Zoo> people do'nt want installs taking forever.. :-) desktop bsd.. instal like.. 10 minutes. 1 I tested.. installed in 5 loL :)
[11:25] <definity> d
[11:26] <rubenex> que pasa per ahi, tu?
[11:26] <chris_> any1 help with this Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:26] <chris_> :?
[11:26] <mmdf_xp> onde acho ubuntu floppy network install??
[11:26] <chris_> for god sake
[11:26] <chris_> :|
[11:26] <SAM_theman> thanks very much!!!
[11:26] <Zardiac> Urskta nnob frgan men vad r Ubuntu dapper?
[11:26] <Zoo> I going see.. if I can creat... ubuntuBSD :-)
[11:26] <NWareX> Has anyone been running Ubuntu 6.0.x?
[11:26] <Zardiac> Sorry wrong lang
[11:26] <NWareX> Is it ready for production soon?
[11:26] <Zardiac> What is Ubuntu dapper?
[11:26] <Jowi> !tell Zardiac about dapper
[11:27] <NWareX> !dapper
[11:27] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:27] <NWareX> :-)
[11:27] <redguy> Zoo: or maube uBSDuntu
[11:27] <mmdf_xp> onde acho ubuntu floppy network install??
[11:27] <curley_sue> crimsun, I don't have a .Xresources, was that supposed to be ceated during the installation? what's supposed to b in it?
[11:27] <Zoo> yeah
[11:27] <Zoo> :P
[11:27] <ompaul> NWareX, Zardiac  move to the irc channel #ubuntu+1 for conversation about that thanks
[11:27] <Zoo> who knows... I do know.. I can do what I want :-)
[11:27] <crimsun> curley_sue: you create it; the format is described in urxvt's man page
[11:27] <Zoo> hi redguy  :-)
[11:28] <Zardiac> Yeah sorry
[11:28] <crimsun> curley_sue: you can try a Google search for "urxvt xresources", too
[11:28] <shiv> when I open this link my browser window just closes. :( http://slickdeals.net/?pno=7170&lno=1&afsrc=1
[11:29] <redguy> hi Zoo
[11:29] <curley_sue> crimsun, I doing it but can't really understand which to sl
[11:29] <curley_sue> crimsun, I doing it but can't really understand which to dl
[11:30] <narg> Good indication that openssh is paranoid: The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.
[11:30] <narg> mwhahah
[11:30] <rukuartic> Can anyone reccomend a fairly easy to configure software firewall?
[11:31] <chris_> any1 help with this Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Mar  7 22:08:48 localhost kernel: [4344030.432000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:31] <rukuartic> chris_, it might help if you explain to us what caused that to happen, what you did just before it, etc
[11:31] <narg> rukuartic: try firestarter. I havn't used it myself, but its good I hear.
[11:31] <curley_sue> crimsun, is there a way to change the blue?
[11:31] <chris_> im trying to install ndiswrapper
[11:31] <rukuartic> narg, Thanks, I'll look around :)
[11:32] <rukuartic> chris_, did you follow the instructions exactly as shown?
[11:32] <narg> its good*
[11:32] <narg> :)
[11:32] <chris_> Yes.
[11:32] <Zoo> lol
[11:32] <chris_> sec rukuartic  pastebin
[11:32] <Zoo> eins as hexidecimal :P
[11:33] <chris_> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:33] <rukuartic> chris_, Didja look up your device in the DB to make sure you were using the right driver?
[11:33] <Zoo> later everyone
[11:34] <rukuartic> narg, Its better than anything I've got right now (Nothing >>; I'm on DMZ)
[11:34] <Zoo> hey ompaul
[11:34] <lucidmonkey_> hello, can someone tell me how to change my boot loaders default OS?
[11:34] <ompaul> ohh shucks
[11:34] <chris_> rukuartic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9833
[11:34] <ompaul> Zoo, yes
[11:34] <wastrel> lucidmonkey_:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:34] <Zoo> you good with enhancing performace, services etc..?
[11:34] <Zoo> I want to basically.. make ubuntu like a super system.. etc
[11:35] <narg> rukuartic: Yea. I have a hardware one that works well, so I havn't touched software ones before.
[11:35] <Zoo> imagine... BSD and ubuntu :-)
[11:35] <ompaul> Zoo, no - one of those things I need to work on
[11:35] <Zoo> ah
[11:35] <litb> will ubuntu be on CeBIT?
[11:35] <Misterslurpey> can some one help me?
[11:35] <Zoo> so.. you good with applications, hardware, drivers.. ?
[11:35] <narg> Misterslurpey: with what?
[11:35] <danboid> My scanner doesn't get recognised until I sudo modprobe sg and then run gimp as su. How do I get sg to be loaded at boot (adding it to /etc/modules hasn't worked) and get the scanner working for the non-root users?
[11:35] <eth0> could anyone tell me why bchunk always has to make two .iso files and only the first is mountable?
[11:35] <rukuartic> narg, Yea... any clue how to open ports on a linksys router?
[11:35] <ompaul> Zoo, I don't know what I do know that is my major failing
[11:35] <rukuartic> narg, They want to send it to the process... but I'm not quite sure what to send it to... X_x
[11:36] <Misterslurpey> how do i install cedega, it says i need the profile, but which one?
[11:36] <Zoo> yes Rubin
[11:36] <Zoo> rukuartic,
[11:36] <Zoo> lol
[11:36] <i|am_noob> hello
[11:36] <narg> rukuartic: For mine, which isn't linksys, you just open http to 168.0.0.1 and there is a config. Try that or something similar?
[11:36] <IdleOne> !CEDEGA
[11:36] <Zoo> hey.. we all start from somewhere don't we OmniColos
[11:36] <rukuartic> chris_, Hold up a second
[11:36] <i|am_noob> need help with instal
[11:36] <Zoo> ompaul, *
[11:36] <Misterslurpey> and everytime i login to root it says auth failed :(
[11:36] <Rubin> narg, rukuartic its usually 192.168.1.1 or 0.1 by default
[11:36] <lucidmonkey_> wastrel, ok, now what do i change... i don't want to screw this up
[11:36] <wastrel> !tell Misterslurpey about root
[11:36] <Zoo> hey Misterslurpey ..
[11:36] <Zoo> I have some binary, in cedega :-)
[11:37] <IdleOne> !tell Misterslurpey  about root
[11:37] <narg> Rubin: yea, I typo'd the ip, thanks for the correction.
[11:37] <IdleOne> !tell Misterslurpey  about cedega
[11:37] <chris_> rukuartic, okay
[11:37] <rukuartic> narg, Rubin  Yea... thats it
[11:37] <i|am_noob> hey any one can help me with instal
[11:37] <rukuartic> chris_, Are you SURE you loaded the right files?
[11:37] <ompaul> !anyone
[11:37] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:37] <danboid> Whats the 'proper' way to get modules loaded at boot under ubuntu?
[11:37] <Zoo> yep.. engine and tar
[11:37] <iGotNoTime> does anyone know the URL of the big repository for Ubuntu Apps?
[11:38] <rukuartic> iGotNoTime, I think its already there
[11:38] <iGotNoTime> negative
[11:38] <chris_> yes.
[11:38] <ompaul> i|am_noob, you need a lot more detail than that - what are you doing, and so on
[11:38] <rukuartic> danboid, edit /etc/modules I think
[11:38] <Jowi> danboid: you put them in /etc/modules
[11:38] <Zoo> iGotNoTime,
[11:38] <chris_> rukuartic, im sure.
[11:38] <Zoo> use. universe repositories etc..
[11:38] <chris_> there are off my CD i have from belkin
[11:38] <rukuartic> iGotNoTime, Didja check synaptic's thing?
[11:38] <iGotNoTime> I looked they are all official Ubuntu URL's
[11:38] <Zoo> and multiuniverse etc
[11:38] <rukuartic> chris_, Yeah I know... but some of them are the wrong types
[11:38] <iGotNoTime> I will check again
[11:38] <IdleOne> !tell iGotNoTime  about repos
[11:38] <rukuartic> chris_, type in lspci and find the thing that matches with your card
[11:38] <eth0> or can anyone help me mount .bin/.cue files to my filesystem?
[11:38] <wastrel> lucidmonkey_:  default 0  @ the top means the first block on the list.  change the number to the one you want to be default
[11:38] <Misterslurpey> well everytime in terminal it say enter root pw and it doesnt let my type anything
[11:39] <Zoo> go to settings. show all disabled
[11:39] <i|am_noob> okay instales Ubugtu started get comand line loged in tryed starting x ( start x ) nothing so how do i start graphic interface
[11:39] <ompaul> Zoo, please put all your thoughts on one line - using enter in the place of a comma, is really, well, just not on
[11:39] <narg> eth0: I don't think its possible. Convert to iso possibly?
[11:39] <rukuartic> chris_, and then look here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/list
[11:39] <Zoo> also, I know of some others you can add iGotNoTime
[11:39] <IdleOne> Misterslurpey>  when you type your password you wont see anything but it is there ..type it in and hit enter
[11:39] <iGotNoTime> by synaptic you mean Add Applications?
[11:39] <rukuartic> Zoo, I'd be interested to hear about those
[11:39] <Zoo> lol.. I'm going to my girlfriends house :P
[11:39] <Misterslurpey> it says failed to su authentation
[11:39] <i|am_noob> loged in okay
[11:39] <Zoo> ;)
[11:39] <rukuartic> iGotNoTime, That should be it... by the way, it helps to type in the first few letters of someone's name and hit tab
[11:39] <lucidmonkey_> wastrel, so it goes, 0,1,2... etc..
[11:39] <i|am_noob> can't tart graphic interface
[11:39] <IdleOne> !tell Misterslurpey  about sudo
[11:40] <chris_> rukuartic, i cant see it there
[11:40] <brenner> iGotNoTime: no.  it's in sys > admin
[11:40] <narg> Zoo: Do sudo -s to get a room shell.
[11:40] <wastrel> lucidmonkey_:  yes
[11:40] <eth0> narq: when i convert with bchunk it gives me 2 .iso files and only one of them is mountable
[11:40] <IdleOne> Misterslurpey>  check the links ubotu  just sent you
[11:40] <rukuartic> chris_, Whats LSPCI output? Dump it to pastebin real quick
[11:40] <brenner> iGotNoTime: add apps is just a tool to install common programs
[11:40] <Zoo> nah.. I'm doing.. /exit :-)
[11:40] <narg> eth0: And I assume the second one has the stuff you want? :p
[11:40] <danboid> I added sg to the end of /etc/modules, reset, but my scanner still doesn't get found by normal users. I have to sudo modprobe sg then scanimage finds it
[11:40] <iGotNoTime> brenner, that helped alot!
[11:40] <rukuartic> brenner, Yeah... but I think they're just disabled... if you go into settings you can enable 'em
[11:40] <iGotNoTime> brenner, thank you :)
[11:40] <rukuartic> iGotNoTime, Good luck mate :)
[11:40] <Zoo> I think I am doing fine with putting my thoughts out there... cough
[11:41] <chris_> pastebin being slow
[11:41] <eth0> narg: yeah i think so
[11:41] <Zoo> if I'm not mistakin, I had like a paragraph up a few lines .etc
[11:41] <brenner> rukuartic: so they're already installed?
[11:41] <Kurt2> why do Democrats hate Jews?
[11:41] <rukuartic> chris_, You could go to http://pastebin.com
[11:41] <eth0> narg: the first doesn't do anything
[11:41] <rukuartic> brenner, I think they're there, but disabled
[11:41] <chris_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9834 Rubin
[11:41] <IdleOne> ompaul>  lol he was here yesterday also
[11:41] <wastrel> i dunno, why do democrats hate jews?
[11:42] <narg> eth0: It probably converted the bin into an iso, and the cue into one. I've never used it before, so I don't know for sure. Is there another way other than using a bin/cue?
[11:42] <wastrel> aww i wanted to hear the punchline
[11:42] <rukuartic> chris_, its the Intel Corp one right?
[11:42] <Zoo> isn't his right to be here.. for open source?
[11:42] <eth0> narg: nah, bin/cue is all i have :(
[11:42] <brenner> rukuartic: i'm pretty sure that's a negative.  b/c dia is in universe
[11:42] <Zoo> IdleOne,
[11:42] <ompaul> wastrel, ehh you want to leave too?
[11:42] <narg> eth0: What is it? Can you burn it an rip to an iso?
[11:42] <Misterslurpey> do i type gksudo in terminal, im confused
[11:42] <chris_> no?
[11:43] <chris_> rukuartic, its belkin
[11:43] <IdleOne> Zoo>  his right to be here is only if he follows the rules..btw irc is not a right it is a priviledge
[11:43] <danboid> how do I get a usb scanner working for a non-root user under breezy?
[11:43] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Plzzz can anyone help me with postfix?? i cant get mail to work!!!
[11:43] <Zoo> yes.. so is .. Filetopia and many others.. :-)
[11:43] <chris_> sec
[11:43] <chris_> ill change ports
[11:43] <Zoo> anyone can run a server/client idaho45
[11:43] <Zoo> IdleOne,
[11:43] <shiv> I still get crashes of firefox when trying to get to flash websites. ANy fixes?
[11:43] <rukuartic> chris_, Yeah... but it looks at the chipset, not the maker
[11:43] <Misterslurpey> i read the sudo thing you sent me but i cant find it, do i add it or what?
[11:43] <rukuartic> chris_, Waiiit leave it be
[11:43] <IdleOne> !tell Zoo  about coc
[11:43] <IdleOne> Zoo>  check out that link
[11:43] <Zoo> lol you do'nt need to tell me about no code of conduct, I buy stuff from ubuntu
[11:44] <eth0> narg: i have no cds
[11:44] <Misterslurpey> i read the sudo thing you sent me but i cant find it, do i add it or what?
[11:44] <Zoo> so blah :-)
[11:44] <rukuartic> brenner, I think its just settings>repositories and you just check the unchecked ones
[11:44] <wastrel> aww
[11:44] <rukuartic> shiv, I remember seeing something about that on the wiki...
[11:44] <IdleOne> Zoo>  thought maybe you didnt know about it :P
[11:44] <chris_> rukuartic, i am using a usb ethernet atm yet i have intel ethernet too
[11:44] <chris_> but i need to use wireless
[11:44] <ompaul> !CoC
[11:44] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:44] <Zoo> what you think I slow?
[11:44] <eletido> how can i install mplayer?
[11:44] <brenner> rukuartic: ah. i thought you were going on about 'add apps' :)
[11:44] <Zoo> I not slow :-)
[11:44] <narg> eth0: Hrm. I have no idea if converting it doesn't work. Have you fiddled with the options for the convertor?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eletido about mplayer
[11:45] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:45] <IdleOne> !mplayer
[11:45] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:45] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:45] <ompaul> Zoo, check out the offtopic link there
[11:45] <shiv> I tried the wiki thing its this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89827&highlight=flash Still no luck :(
[11:45] <brenner> Misterslurpey: what are you trying to do?
[11:45] <rukuartic> chris_, whats the maker of it? OOOH Its USB? then lsusb not lspci
[11:45] <Zoo> eletido, .. I will see ya.. going to use.. VMware, and TechSmith Camtasia studio. to show people how to compile source packages, etc.. install applications, programs.. install linux and unix :)
[11:45] <IdleOne> shiv>  wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats
[11:46] <chris_> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components
[11:46] <Zoo> I don't need to be in an irc channel lol
[11:46] <Zoo> ;P
[11:46] <danboid> so has nobody here got a usb scanner working with ubuntu?
[11:46] <eletido> hmm, mplayer package is unavailable. do i not have the repository included?
[11:46] <eth0> narg: wait, i think i figured it out
[11:46] <Zoo> eletido, .. I will tell you what to add
[11:46] <Misterslurpey> can i show you the link?
[11:47] <narg> eth0: Cool. What solved it?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> eletido: you have to enable it it tells you how on that site
[11:47] <rukuartic> chris_, I don't see it on the list... hold up
[11:47] <farous> !tell eletido about repos
[11:47] <Misterslurpey> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eletido about universe
[11:47] <Misterslurpey> thats what im trying to do
[11:47] <rukuartic> chris_, I don't know. I think that might not be supported hardware
[11:47] <Zoo> here you go bud
[11:47] <Zoo> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:47] <Zoo> deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[11:48] <IdleOne> Misterslurpey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[11:48] <rukuartic> chris_, whats the official name/product number?
[11:48] <Zoo> add them, but install the codecs first.. :-)
[11:48] <mahangu> i just apt-getted phpmyadmin, but i cant login.. anyone know the default pw?
[11:48] <Misterslurpey> omg, im trying to get the profile!!!
[11:48] <chris_> sec
[11:48] <eletido> ok, thanks guys.
[11:48] <Zoo> eletido,
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Zoo: why not try and keep the country code
[11:48] <gnomefreak> same
[11:48] <rukuartic> mahangu, Try uninstalling it and downloading it from the website
[11:49] <DoTheRodeo_> mahangu, try sudo apt-getted phpmyadmin
[11:49] <chris_> model f5d7050 Belkin wireless G usb network adapter rukuartic
[11:49] <Zoo> gnomefreak, ..
[11:49] <mahangu> DoTheRodeo_, i did apt-get phpmyadmin
[11:49] <Misterslurpey> i give up this is to hard to do.
[11:49] <Zoo> open source is world wide supported, not limited to just 1 country code
[11:49] <IdleOne> !tell chris_  about wireless
[11:49] <mahangu> rukuartic, really? apt-get wont work
[11:49] <chris_> UGHT
[11:49] <chris_> *UGH
[11:49] <chris_> I DONE THAT:|
[11:49] <chris_> i got errors!
[11:49] <IdleOne> !enter
[11:49] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:50] <Zoo> here you go eletido
[11:50] <mahangu> DoTheRodeo_, oh i get it, you were trying to be funny
[11:50] <Zoo> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html
[11:50] <talos452> anyone know about installing Win4Lin on Ubuntu?
[11:50] <rukuartic> mahangu, No it works... just it you install it (its just copying files) I think its easier to set up
[11:50] <Zoo> I got that book too. .if you want it.. I'm a reverse engineer eletido .. etc. and Network Engineer.. in IT of Robert Morris bud
[11:50] <eth0> narg: i've got it mounted ok, now i just need to open the .dat file
[11:51] <Zoo> man I tell ya, I just love the new release of ubuntu, etc
[11:51] <rukuartic> chris_, Go here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List and search for f5d7050, someone had the same problem as you
[11:51] <Zoo> so much faster, and compatible..
[11:51] <ipfw> Zoo : Breazy, 5.10 ?
[11:51] <chris_> k
[11:51] <Zoo> nah.. testing alpha flight
[11:52] <ipfw> Zoo : dapper ?
[11:52] <ompaul> rukuartic, check the message for mahangu
[11:52] <talos452> anyone know about Win4Lin?
[11:52] <Zoo> yea
[11:52] <Zoo> works so much better for my desktop. etc..
[11:52] <wastrel> i have breezy
[11:52] <rukuartic> ompaul, ?
[11:52] <talos452> Can anyone help me with it?
[11:52] <ompaul> apt-???
[11:52] <ompaul> rukuartic, ^^
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Zoo: i know all about open source but first off have one repo in one country another repo in another country one will take longer than other. amount of area it has to travel
[11:53] <ipfw> Zoo : I'm on Breazy on this laptop Dell D600, and it works like a dream... A bit slower than what I'd like
[11:53] <rukuartic> ompaul, Yeah I know... but its installing it with a funny password
[11:53] <Zoo> ipfw,
[11:53] <ompaul> getting??
[11:53] <gnomefreak> safest bet is too leave them off :(
[11:53] <rukuartic> ompaul, I'm more of a redhat person :P Install it by hand etc
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ompaul: apt-getting is a new command
[11:53] <chris_> how do i find what version of ndiswrapper i have?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> chris_: apt-cache policy ndiswrapper
[11:53] <Simian> evening all
[11:54] <Zoo> I have Breezy on my laptop as well.. works like a dream too.. almost... I am programming in artificial intelligence. in programming. creating designing Interact Interface, etc... for users. world wide.. and I also mess with SCO Unix Ware
[11:54] <rukuartic> gnomefreak, He's having a problem with bad drivers
[11:54] <chris_> W: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper
[11:54] <JustinLynn> Simian> evening.
[11:54] <ipfw> Zoo : I'm use to running Gentoo with a lot of opts and custom support though, so the 10% increase there is something I have to get use to living without :P
[11:54] <Zoo> I have another friend. he runs SGI systems
[11:54] <gnomefreak> rukuartic: more like he doesnt have them
[11:54] <Zoo> tru
[11:54] <chris_> i do?
[11:54] <Zoo> I heard of gentoo, just never ran it. however run many others, etc
[11:54] <chris_> i have real belkin Drivers cd:(
[11:55] <rukuartic> chris_, Try going here http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and looking for drivers there
[11:55] <rukuartic> gnomefreak, Naw, ndiswrapper reports hardware/drivers are present
[11:55] <ipfw> Zoo : I like being able to pick what support goes into programs, and do processor opts, etc .. But I don't like spending all my time waiting on programs to build, its a double edged sword :P
[11:55] <wastrel> there's way more ppl here on the weekends
[11:55] <gnomefreak> chris_: cd is almost useless here
[11:56] <Misterslurpey> su: Authentication failure
[11:56] <Misterslurpey> Sorry.
[11:56] <Misterslurpey>  how do i fix this?
[11:56] <rukuartic> chris_, Those are XP drivers... some don't work in linux
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Misterslurpey: use sudo not su
[11:56] <Seveas> !tell Misterslurpey about root
[11:56] <gnomefreak> sudo <command>
[11:56] <ipfw> Zoo : I use to be big on what distro did what, but these days I just figure I can mod them all to do what I want no matter what it starts with
[11:57] <chris_> rukuartic, im not sure what to download none _look_ like F5D7050
[11:57] <eth0> narg: any idea how to get a .dat vcd file open? at least i think it's vcd
[11:57] <ipfw> Zoo : I took the ubuntu route because a friend said it installs quick/easy -- And I have to admit, it basically put itself on the box ;)
[11:57] <rukuartic> :P I think debian people are lazy... newer versions are out than in repos, but they're like "Bah we'll just apt-get it"
[11:57] <Aghaster> hi
[11:57] <Zoo> yes
[11:57] <Zoo> so does.. Xandros and.. DesktopBSD
[11:58] <IdleOne> Zoo>  ipfw  can you guys take this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:58] <narg> rukuartic: non-apted software gets messy if mixed.
[11:58] <Zoo> want to know what i found the fastest distribution and file system that installed
[11:58] <narg> eth0: hrm. You looked at the mount options and searched the repos?
[11:58] <rukuartic> chris_, Eh... probably the rt2500 I think...
[11:58] <Zoo> was.. DesktopBSD 1.0 rc1, then rc3   rc1 was in 10 minutes. the rc3 took 6
[11:58] <chris_> k?
[11:58] <chris_> ill try
[11:58] <rukuartic> narg, Yeah... but I like my freshly compiled stuff :D
[11:58] <Zoo> its  FreeBSD in KDE environment
[11:58] <ipfw> Zoo : seems we are bothering IdleOne ... we can just msg if you want
[11:58] <Zoo> tru
[11:58] <eth0> narg: it's all mounted ok, and yeah i've search the repos
[11:58] <Zoo> I like ya ipfw
[11:58] <Aghaster> I have a serious problem with ubuntu, here's the paste :
[11:58] <Aghaster> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/9NHoo669.html
[11:58] <Zoo> were people with vision
[11:59] <Zoo> I don't just limit myself to 1 system
[11:59] <Aghaster> has anyone fixed the "Error activating XKB configuration" problem^
[11:59] <Aghaster> ?
[11:59] <Misterslurpey> im still getting it?
[11:59] <narg> eth0: So, if its mounted, do you just need a program to open it? Try a media player (mplayer perhaps?)
[11:59] <Aghaster> i had this problem with debian too.
[12:00] <Aghaster> and latest version of gnome