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| raphink | yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah | 01:05 |
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| Mez | hmm is anyone here willing to debug my abysmal C++ coding and get some code working for me ?:P | 01:07 |
| freeflying-ibook | raphink: hi | 01:07 |
| raphink | hi freeflying-ibook | 01:07 |
| raphink | kontact losing all addresses when closing with message open FIXED! thanks to Till that rocks hard :D | 01:08 |
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| raphink | Riddell: one more fix to upload :) | 01:20 |
| raphink | allee: ping | 01:25 |
| allee | raphink: pong | 01:25 |
| raphink | hi :) | 01:25 |
| raphink | how is digikam going? | 01:25 |
| raphink | (and how are you doing, too?) | 01:25 |
| allee | raphink: deadline stress but I'm almost done. Puh! | 01:26 |
| raphink | great :) | 01:26 |
| === allee checks digikam build status ... | ||
| raphink | till fixed kontact bug with addresses today | 01:26 |
| raphink | :) | 01:26 |
| raphink | at least he gave a fix that works, and he said he would work on making it nicer | 01:27 |
| allee | raphink: yeah, I've seen it. I did subscribe to the bug | 01:27 |
| raphink | oh nice | 01:27 |
| raphink | allee: I've just built and tested, Riddell has the debdiff to upload :) | 01:27 |
| raphink | I'm so happy with this bugfix | 01:27 |
| raphink | :) | 01:27 |
| allee | digikam build on all archs (only amd64 pending, arm build running) | 01:27 |
| raphink | :) | 01:28 |
| raphink | where is it building? | 01:28 |
| allee | raphink: debian buildd | 01:28 |
| raphink | ok :) | 01:28 |
| raphink | so when it's built we can test sync and request a UVFe | 01:29 |
| allee | raphink: so I assume it's save to ask for a sync. but I'll be busy until at least thursday :( ... | 01:29 |
| raphink | ok | 01:29 |
| raphink | allee: well I can ask for the sync | 01:29 |
| allee | raphink: that's great. Thx a lot!! | 01:29 |
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| raphink | allee: what version is it in Debian? -4 ? | 01:37 |
| allee | yes -4 | 01:37 |
| raphink | ok thanks | 01:37 |
| raphink | allee: | 01:40 |
| raphink | This new Debian version fixes the following : | 01:40 |
| raphink | * kipi plugins now work in digikam (major, since many people want to be able to export to flickr for example) | 01:40 |
| raphink | * doesn't segfault on amd64 anymore | 01:40 |
| raphink | anything else allee? | 01:40 |
| allee | fix jpeg detection on PPC | 01:41 |
| raphink | ok | 01:41 |
| allee | adds a necessary recommends on dcraw | 01:41 |
| raphink | ok | 01:41 |
| raphink | I'll join the changelog anyway :) | 01:42 |
| allee | :) | 01:42 |
| raphink | did you change the package since I used your -4 ? | 01:42 |
| raphink | or is it the same ? | 01:42 |
| allee | raphink: changelog changed afair, ah and tarball: My sponsor used different compression level, so I synced with debian ;) | 01:43 |
| raphink | ah ok | 01:43 |
| raphink | I can't find the source in sid yet | 01:44 |
| allee | raphink: I also thing the recommends was later | 01:44 |
| allee | think* | 01:44 |
| raphink | I need the package source | 01:44 |
| allee | just download whatever debian has | 01:44 |
| raphink | yep | 01:45 |
| raphink | I don't have it through apt-get yet | 01:45 |
| raphink | but I'll get it from the website | 01:45 |
| allee | yeah, that what I do too when my sid test hosts isn't working ;) | 01:46 |
| raphink | :) | 01:46 |
| raphink | UVFer filed :) | 01:54 |
| raphink | allee: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34028 if you want to add anything to it | 01:55 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34028 in digikam "UVF exception 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 -> 0.8.1-4" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 01:55 |
| allee | raphink: thx, looks fine. | 01:57 |
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| Mez | eep | 03:38 |
| Mez | why are konsole tabs at the bottom now? | 03:38 |
| raphink | Mez: that was a choice taken at last kubuntu meeting | 03:39 |
| raphink | and applied by tonio | 03:39 |
| raphink | so that all tabs are at the bottom in all apps | 03:40 |
| === Mez doesnt like it | ||
| raphink | homogeneity | 03:40 |
| Mez | and arent they at the top now in konv | 03:40 |
| Mez | ? | 03:40 |
| raphink | if you don't like it, you can change it in two clicks | 03:40 |
| Mez | raphink: already hae | 03:40 |
| raphink | ah? | 03:40 |
| Mez | ah | 03:40 |
| raphink | you think it's to the top in konv ? | 03:40 |
| Mez | konv was changed to have them moved to the top | 03:40 |
| raphink | ah | 03:41 |
| Mez | we patched to move back to bottom ;) | 03:41 |
| raphink | I don't like that | 03:41 |
| raphink | lol | 03:41 |
| raphink | hmm | 03:41 |
| raphink | I'll talk to tonio about that | 03:41 |
| raphink | not tomorrow cause I think he won't be there | 03:41 |
| raphink | ;) | 03:41 |
| Mez | ? | 03:41 |
| Mez | why | 03:41 |
| Mez | why you need to talk to him? | 03:41 |
| Mez | they're at the bottom in konv | 03:41 |
| Mez | we patched it when like - we found out they were at the top | 03:41 |
| Mez | I think | 03:42 |
| raphink | I have to talk to him because he is the one responsible for the tabs settings in kubuntu-default-settings | 03:42 |
| raphink | kubuntu-default-settings (1:6.04-10) dapper; urgency=low | 03:43 |
| raphink | . | 03:43 |
| raphink | [ Anthony Mercatante ] | 03:43 |
| raphink | * Changed tab position to bottom for kopete and konsole to fit | 03:43 |
| raphink | konversation and keep tabs arround the focus | 03:43 |
| raphink | that was the idea | 03:43 |
| raphink | in these apps (konv, kopete, konsole), the focus is at the bottom | 03:43 |
| raphink | and it's more logical to have the tabs close to the focus | 03:43 |
| raphink | so you don't move your mouse all around | 03:44 |
| raphink | on konqui, the focus is to the top mostly (url bar and buttons) so we keep the tabs to the top | 03:44 |
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| freeflying | raphink: ping | 03:58 |
| raphink | pong | 03:58 |
| freeflying | raphink: may I run make -f Makefile.cvs in the rules | 03:58 |
| raphink | you may, if necessary | 03:58 |
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| raphink | preferably in makebuilddir:: imo | 03:59 |
| freeflying | how about in configure | 03:59 |
| raphink | in configure ? | 04:00 |
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| seaLne | Hobbsee: is DPMS not an xorg option? | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure - i'm not sure what it is - if it relates to dpi or what | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | oh goody, a user-error bug | 08:42 |
| seaLne | yeah I have Option "DPMS" in my monitor sections in xorg.conf not sure what it does tho | 08:43 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 08:43 |
| === Hobbsee thought she'd leave it open, and wait till LeeJunFan gave more info (when he comes back) | ||
| seaLne | presumably its either on or off tho | 08:44 |
| Hobbsee | bug 34041 | 08:44 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34041 in kdenetwork kopete "Kopete displays the wrong name in conversation windows" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34041 | 08:44 |
| Hobbsee | i'm assuming that's just a user error bug - it's global identity | 08:45 |
| seaLne | "DPMS is used to communicate between your monitor and computer to make your computer turn off your monitor when you have been neglecting it for a given period of time" | 08:45 |
| seaLne | so power saving? | 08:45 |
| Hobbsee | then that's also in the system settings, display tab - the last tab in that section | 08:45 |
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| Tm_T | Hobbsee: yay! | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tm_T | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | what's yay? | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | just, yay | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | say it | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | =) | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | ah, ok | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: what's up | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: not a lot, just had a very hot and spicy dinner...and so now i feel pretty sick :P | 10:44 |
| === Tm_T is noisy lazy idiot with adsl fast enough to flood in irc | ||
| Hobbsee | lol | 10:46 |
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| Tm_T | also I should be packaging stuff... blah, not now | 10:47 |
| Hobbsee | i thought you were supposed to be bug fixing, as it's after feature freeze... | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | maybe coffee and homebaked bread... :) | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: should do beta1 packages, it's out :) | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | after that I will look into bugs :) | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | talking about Kopete ofcourse | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | beta1 packages of... | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | ah.... | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | still plenty of bugs in kopete... | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | ofcourse | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | where's the beta1 stuff? svn? | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | there too | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | but, wait... | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | hang on, how does it get split from kdenetwork? | 10:50 |
| Tm_T | what you mean? | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | ah yes, it's only in svn atm | 10:51 |
| Hobbsee | well, apt-get source kopete gets the entire kdenetwork | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | and it all compiles together | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | yes | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | so how would one go about packaging it separately? | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | because in normal KDE release cycle Kopete is part of kdenetwork | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | but 0.12is _separate_ release | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | true | 10:53 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how the deps would work then | ||
| Tm_T | so it must be packaged separately | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: aye, that's small problem | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i got that bit | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | yaaaagh, what a feeling... | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: you do use Kopete? | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: of course | 10:55 |
| Tm_T | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122606 | 10:56 |
| Tm_T | have noticed this little baby? | 10:56 |
| Tm_T | really annoying | 10:56 |
| Tm_T | that's something I would like to fix to beta2 | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | i havent, actually | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | it gets sent to the little icon at the bottom, and then i hit view to view the message | 10:58 |
| Hobbsee | losing no focus at all | 10:58 |
| Tm_T | aye, you use message queue/stack | 10:59 |
| Tm_T | but when you set it to "open messages instantly" ;) | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: true, which i prefer not to use... | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | but yeah, i see the point | 11:00 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 11:00 |
| === Tm_T send end part of sentences to wrong contacts every day | ||
| Hobbsee | well, i really want something from someone from kubuntu/ubuntu splashing across my screen with teh parents in the room, viewing a webpage or wahtever | 11:00 |
| Tm_T | uh, I don't understand | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | as in, i dont instantly want my parents reading all my PM's over my shoulder | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | so i can hit ignore or view, based on just who it is | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | it's a personal preference thing, it's ok :P | 11:02 |
| Tm_T | true | 11:02 |
| viviersf | hmmm | 11:02 |
| viviersf | guys | 11:02 |
| viviersf | where would kmail / kwallet store its passwords | 11:02 |
| Tm_T | viviersf: what you mean? | 11:02 |
| Tm_T | kwallet afaik encrypts them | 11:02 |
| viviersf | with which encryption | 11:03 |
| viviersf | ? | 11:03 |
| Tm_T | no idea | 11:04 |
| Tm_T | but main idea of kwallet is to not show password without kwallet ;) | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | you'd think so, yes | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | it'll be in kmailrc or kwalletrc, i expect | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | kopete's is in kopeterc | 11:05 |
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| Tonio_ | hi ;) | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ | 11:42 |
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| MrFaber | hi all | 12:21 |
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| MrFaber | Does anyone useing module assistant? | 12:23 |
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| MrFaber | BTW adept systray updater shows update which are keept back from apt-get which is a little bit confuseing | 12:24 |
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| jjesse | umm did soemonthing change in the latest updates where tabs for konsole now appear at the bottom of the screen instead of the top? | 05:21 |
| freeflying | jjesse: k-d-s | 05:21 |
| jjesse | how come ? | 05:24 |
| Tm_T | just default settings | 05:28 |
| Tm_T | so change if you don't like | 05:28 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 05:29 |
| jjesse | i liked the other default settings :( | 05:33 |
| Riddell | raphink: both uploaded | 05:33 |
| Tm_T | jjesse: I didn't ;( | 05:37 |
| jjesse | Tm_T: who decides? | 05:40 |
| Tm_T | we did | 05:42 |
| Tm_T | atleast I though | 05:42 |
| Tm_T | +t | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | awwww | 05:52 |
| Tm_T | ok, somehow my kmenu doesn't work as expected | 05:53 |
| raphink | Riddell: thanks much :) :) | 05:54 |
| Tm_T | somewhat annoying, I removed kmenu file from ~/.config/menus/ | 05:55 |
| Tm_T | but, default menu doesn't come up | 05:55 |
| Tm_T | still the modified one | 05:55 |
| Riddell | raphink: thank you | 05:56 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/uisprint/ kubuntu-default-settings from Mark | 06:06 |
| Riddell | plus the crystal window theme he wants | 06:06 |
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| Tm_T | bah, I'll shut down whole system, had enough for awhile -> | 06:08 |
| raphink | Riddell: what are the changes? | 06:10 |
| raphink | Riddell: is this the kwin-style-crystal from REVU? | 06:10 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:12 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/windeco.png | 06:12 |
| raphink | hmm looks like the new ubuntu theme | 06:13 |
| raphink | and a bit like the vista one, too iirc | 06:13 |
| jjesse | i like it | 06:13 |
| Riddell | yes, we need to change the buttons | 06:13 |
| raphink | ok | 06:14 |
| raphink | what are the changes to k-d-s? | 06:14 |
| Riddell | darker selected colour, lipstik uses plastik shading on buttons, menus have drop shadow | 06:15 |
| raphink | the 1024x768 background for ksplash looks weird | 06:16 |
| Riddell | why? | 06:16 |
| raphink | it's very different from the other ones | 06:17 |
| Riddell | ignore the other ones :) | 06:17 |
| raphink | I prefer the other ones | 06:17 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:17 |
| Riddell | what do you prefer? | 06:17 |
| raphink | the way it is now | 06:17 |
| Riddell | yes, but what about it? | 06:18 |
| Riddell | the background, the dialogue? | 06:18 |
| raphink | the colors and shapes are smoother | 06:18 |
| raphink | this new one has a much higher contrast in for the backgroud | 06:18 |
| raphink | and I don't like the way kubuntu is written | 06:18 |
| raphink | it's too synthetic to me | 06:18 |
| raphink | I just prefer the older one | 06:19 |
| Riddell | the kdm kubuntu log is more up to date | 06:19 |
| raphink | hmm | 06:20 |
| raphink | yeah but I still prefer the way it is now | 06:20 |
| raphink | dunno, I don't feel at ease with this artwork | 06:20 |
| raphink | it's too ... cold somehow | 06:20 |
| raphink | that is just personal I guess | 06:20 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:20 |
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| raphink | I don't like the usplash either :( | 06:22 |
| raphink | but heh if the majority of people like it, it's good | 06:22 |
| raphink | :) | 06:22 |
| OculusAquilae | i think its ok, but this background at kdm and ksplash | 06:24 |
| raphink | OculusAquilae: how do you mean? | 06:24 |
| OculusAquilae | raphink: these bubbles | 06:25 |
| raphink | you liike them? | 06:25 |
| OculusAquilae | no | 06:25 |
| raphink | ok | 06:25 |
| raphink | me neither | 06:25 |
| OculusAquilae | I like how kubuntu is written, but not these bubbles | 06:25 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why do we want konversation logs in a hidden directory? | 06:25 |
| Riddell | why not the bubbles? | 06:26 |
| Riddell | (we can't actually use that image) | 06:26 |
| raphink | I'm not at ease with that image at all | 06:26 |
| raphink | it's too dark, too synthetic | 06:26 |
| OculusAquilae | and not sharp | 06:27 |
| OculusAquilae | :) | 06:27 |
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| Riddell | OculusAquilae: it's a half size sample from gettyimages, we don't have copyright on it, so that won't be the final one | 06:27 |
| OculusAquilae | ok | 06:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because all application, like kopete, are hiding logs, and enables you to display them in the software | 06:27 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: so you can view the logs in konversion? | 06:28 |
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| Tonio_ | konversation does the same (right click a channel, display logs) | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: absolutly | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | so I don't think it is really usefull in ~ directly | 06:28 |
| Riddell | ok, groovy | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just a question | 06:28 |
| raphink | that prevents from charging ~ with too many folders | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | I'm looking at the new design here | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | are you going to use moodin ? | 06:29 |
| Riddell | I wonder how much scanning for nsplugins at startup slows down startup | 06:29 |
| raphink | moodin doesn't support UTF-8 | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | cause I studied it a lot and that will NOT work | 06:29 |
| Riddell | raphink: for what? | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | because you have no way to dynamically set the resolution | 06:29 |
| raphink | Riddell: for my name... | 06:29 |
| raphink | Riddell: in many languages, names have accents | 06:29 |
| raphink | Riddell: and I don't like to see my name with squares instead of at startup | 06:29 |
| Riddell | curious, you have to try quite hard in Qt not to support utf8 | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: therefore, the background will be stretched for 16/9 screens | 06:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and more than that, it has been reported that moodin creates lots of problems with big resolutions, like 1900x1600 | 06:30 |
| raphink | Riddell: btw, the kde-guidance module for users doesn't like my name either. It prevents me from editing it... | 06:30 |
| Riddell | raphink: poke sebas | 06:30 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: I'm working with _Sime on that point, have tests to perform toonight | 06:30 |
| raphink | sebas: ping | 06:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what about the icons that use hardcoded coords ? | 06:31 |
| Riddell | or not, if it's being worked on | 06:31 |
| Tonio_ | that creates issues on my laptop, which is wxga | 06:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, that's somewhat crazy | 06:31 |
| Riddell | wxga? | 06:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not crazy, just logic because moodin if full coords based | 06:31 |
| raphink | Riddell: aboiut the background for kubuntu : users want something smooth, something nice to look at and relaxing... these bubbles are aggressive to the eyes | 06:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: therefore not usable by default on a distro I'm affraid | 06:32 |
| Riddell | raphink: you think? they look smooth to me | 06:32 |
| raphink | Riddell: not to me | 06:32 |
| sebas | raphink: choose another name or send a patch. | 06:32 |
| sebas | Just kidding :-) | 06:32 |
| sebas | What name does it not like exactly? | 06:32 |
| raphink | sebas: my name was chosen by my parents and written on all my official papers I'm afraid ;) | 06:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I read the full moodin sources, I tested 10 moodin themes, read all docs, and I can confirm that we will not be able to use it by default I'm affraid.... | 06:32 |
| raphink | sebas: my name is Raphal, with uml on the | 06:32 |
| raphink | sebas: wanna see what I get ? | 06:33 |
| Tonio_ | each theme as to be set depending the computer's resolution... | 06:33 |
| sebas | Ah, I should've come across it myself, my surname has an umlaut as well. | 06:33 |
| sebas | raphink: Show me :-) | 06:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the only way to provide a "zero-config" ksplash theme is to use a non "background based" one, which is not possible with moodin. Only the "dafult" engine allow that | 06:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we could use UsersBackground in moodin | 06:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, and what about the "white square" ? | 06:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: moodin doesn't allow the usage of a front image | 06:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: only a background and icons | 06:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can't use another image in it.... I've spent about 1 complete week trying to find out ;) | 06:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you use the user's background, you will miss the "Kubuntu white square" | 06:38 |
| sebas | raphink: I think I can reproduce it here, will try so as soon as I find the time. | 06:38 |
| raphink | ok :) | 06:38 |
| sebas | And if you could tell me if /etc/passwd may contain unicode, that'd be even better :-) | 06:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: another solution is to use a transparent background, with only the white Square and transparent else | 06:38 |
| raphink | sebas: it works fine with kuser (just a note) | 06:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but the problem if that doesn't resolv the stretching issue.... | 06:38 |
| sebas | Does KUser put unicode into /etc/passwd? (If yes, we should too) | 06:39 |
| raphink | no | 06:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: k-d-s from March 6th you send looks all good, I'll upload | 06:39 |
| Riddell | s/send/sent/ | 06:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks :) | 06:39 |
| Riddell | sebas: you're modelling guidance on kuser? | 06:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: note that I'm not telling you that I don't want moodin | 06:40 |
| sebas | Riddell: No, but it'd give a hint as to what encoding doesn't break other things. | 06:40 |
| raphink | Riddell: well the fact is that kuser works on this matter | 06:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: juste that I carrefully tried, and I can unsure you we are waisting our time | 06:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'm listening | 06:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: unless we patch moodin to autodetect the user's resolution and then use the convenient background automatically | 06:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: isn't that what it does? | 06:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nope | 06:41 |
| Riddell | but that's what all the Background-1024xfoo.jpg images are for | 06:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you don't specify the background, and let that variable empty, it will try, in that order | 06:41 |
| Tonio_ | Background-<width>x<height>.jpg | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | Background.jpg | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: width and height are extracted from the BaseResolution variable | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not from the user's config | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | here is the way it works | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: another issue is that icons are fixed coords | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | and they have to be adapted depending the background used | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because the same coords will not go in the same part of the image depending the user's config | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | there are lots of problems reported on kde-apps concerning the actual moodin theme I added | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | and the only response is : adept the coords to feet your screen settings | 06:44 |
| Tonio_ | that's the reason moodin cannot be used by default on a distro in actual developpment state.... | 06:44 |
| Riddell | linspire uses it :) | 06:45 |
| mornfall | ahum? | 06:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well, could be interesting to look how they implemented it | 06:45 |
| Riddell | yo mornfall | 06:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I really doubt that doesn't cause any issue... unless they patched moodin to autodetect X parameters | 06:45 |
| Riddell | mornfall: what do you think of non-interactive install for adept? | 06:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i think we are somewhat past feature freeze | 06:46 |
| mornfall | it can be done | 06:46 |
| mornfall | but it's feature freeze breach | 06:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have to leave work, going back home. do you want we spend a bit of time toonight making a point on this ? | 06:47 |
| Riddell | Mark wants the language tool, and that's dependent on a nice GUI for installing packages | 06:47 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: on moodin? | 06:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes ! If linspire uses it, I really want to unerstand why | 06:47 |
| Riddell | well, they wrote it | 06:47 |
| mornfall | i don't completely get what's moodin about | 06:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: moodin is written by linspire ??????, | 06:48 |
| Riddell | yes, moodin is a fork of the linspire splash | 06:48 |
| mornfall | is it really just about svg splashscreen? or is there something useful in it | 06:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: any screenshots of what the language tool actually does? | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: moodin's homepage : http://moodwrod.com | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | not linspire | 06:49 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: read again, it's linspire codebase, forked | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: okay ;) | 06:50 |
| Tonio_ | well I'll have a look at that toonight, cause really, I don't understand how can that thing be used dynamically | 06:50 |
| Tonio_ | sorry I messed Riddell's comment concerning the fork :) | 06:51 |
| Tonio_ | I will install linspire toonight and we'll see ;) | 06:51 |
| Riddell | they don't have a central image like we are using | 06:51 |
| Riddell | it's just a background with icons along the middle | 06:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ! that way, no pb | 06:51 |
| Tonio_ | you can simply use the user's background, indeed | 06:52 |
| Tonio_ | or a transparent one, which is possible too | 06:53 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well, linspire uses the option "icons inline" | 06:55 |
| Tonio_ | with this, no coords are necessary | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but that means you cannot configure anything | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | icons are centered and inline, and that's it.... | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: very limited if you want to provide something nice | 06:56 |
| Tm_T | bah | 07:22 |
| Tm_T | there was kdelibs update today? | 07:23 |
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| Riddell | Tm_T: yes, why? | 07:28 |
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| andred | Tm_T: no kopete package for dapper today? ;) | 07:30 |
| Riddell | andred: why not? | 07:30 |
| andred | the breezy one is already in the repository btw. if anybody wanna try | 07:31 |
| andred | bbl, lunch | 07:31 |
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| andred | Riddell: because Tm_T seemed to refuse to package it today | 08:17 |
| andred | lazy Tm_T ;) | 08:17 |
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| _Sime | I discovered something interesting in systemsettings. If you put KLocale::setMainCatalog("kcontrol") at the start of the program, then i18n starts to work. | 08:39 |
| _Sime | I don't know how or why that happens..... :-/ | 08:39 |
| Riddell | _Sime: aah, I'll bet something in the kcm module loader sets the klocale catalogue | 08:40 |
| Riddell | top work _Sime :) | 08:40 |
| _Sime | I've been looking for the missing link, but I haven't quite found it. | 08:41 |
| _Sime | there is something fishy going on. | 08:41 |
| mornfall | Riddell: so do we want to break the freeze and add features now? | 08:44 |
| Riddell | mornfall: I need to ask Mark when he comes back in a bit | 08:45 |
| mornfall | i would consider adding a separate application to minimize risks | 08:46 |
| mornfall | without altering the library | 08:47 |
| mornfall | if not possible, too bad | 08:47 |
| mornfall | (shouldn't be a problem though) | 08:47 |
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| mornfall | "No message in kdesu box when clicking on adept notifier if possible" <-- i completely don't get that | 08:48 |
| mornfall | what is that supposed to mean? | 08:48 |
| jjesse | why would you not want to be notified or asked for kdesu? | 08:49 |
| jjesse | don't you need sudo privilleges to run it? | 08:49 |
| Riddell | when you click on notifier the kdesu box has a long ugly command | 08:49 |
| Riddell | there's an option to kdesu to not show the command | 08:49 |
| Riddell | -d | 08:49 |
| mornfall | Riddell: i don't run kdesu though | 08:49 |
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| mornfall | let me check | 08:49 |
| Riddell | maybe it needs to go in the .desktop file then | 08:50 |
| mornfall | starteServiceByDesktopName | 08:50 |
| mornfall | also, popping up kdesu prompts without command is somewhat dangerous practice | 08:51 |
| mornfall | because it's easily spoofed | 08:51 |
| Riddell | mornfall: that was my argument | 08:52 |
| Riddell | but it is a kdesu option, and it is the default in gnome | 08:52 |
| mornfall | interesting | 08:53 |
| Riddell | it ould be nice if there was an option to filter out all the command line stuff and just have kdesu show the app name being run | 08:53 |
| Riddell | s/ould/would/ | 08:53 |
| mornfall | maybe it's time to start dapper+1 todo :) | 08:56 |
| Riddell | we have a wiki page for that :) | 08:57 |
| hunger | Any estimation on when suspend will be fixed again in kubuntu? | 08:59 |
| hunger | Or any hints on what I can do to figure out what goes wrong? | 09:00 |
| mornfall | Riddell: url? i'm lost trying to find it | 09:00 |
| Lure | hunger: do you mean klaptop issue or suspend in general? | 09:00 |
| hunger | Lure: klaptop issue. | 09:01 |
| hunger | Lure: klaptop issue where it suspends only after logout. | 09:02 |
| Lure | hunger: I kind of gave up on klaptop and have switched to kpowersave | 09:02 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas | 09:02 |
| Riddell | mornfall: I've not edited that page at all | 09:02 |
| allee | toma, raphink: digikam #355886 'search and score' care to add the patch to https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34028. 0.8.2 no problem for sid but maybe too late/complicated for dapper. I'm busy until next week :( | 09:02 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34028 in digikam "UVF exception 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 -> 0.8.1-4" [Normal,Confirmed] | 09:02 |
| hunger | Lure: I'd do too, but that is incompatible with kubuntu- and ubuntu-desktop. | 09:03 |
| Lure | hunger: true, this is why it is hard (impossible?) to do change for dapper | 09:03 |
| mornfall | there's a general problem with metapackages :) | 09:06 |
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| hunger | Nice if it got network, ANNOYING when not:-( | 09:07 |
| Lure | hunger: I am thinking of preparing powersave packages that would not complain about apmd and powernowd | 09:08 |
| hunger | keeps popping up kwallet windows. | 09:08 |
| Lure | but would install anyhow and then disable these two services | 09:09 |
| superstoned | hey _sime | 09:09 |
| _Sime | superstoned: hey. | 09:09 |
| toma | allee: i can attach the patch there, but do not count on it before end of next week | 09:09 |
| _Sime | superstoned: what's up? | 09:09 |
| Lure | but this could not go in universe archive... :-( | 09:09 |
| Lure | (too ugly ;-) | 09:10 |
| superstoned | nix, jij gaf bij kde-nl "superstoned: ===> #kubuntu-devel" | 09:10 |
| Riddell | hi superstoned | 09:10 |
| allee | toma: heh, them I'm propably faster :) | 09:10 |
| superstoned | hi riddell | 09:10 |
| superstoned | nice travel home? | 09:10 |
| superstoned | :D | 09:10 |
| toma | allee: i committed it in one or two commits, should be straight forward | 09:10 |
| superstoned | riddell: how's the dirfilter goin'? | 09:11 |
| _Sime | superstoned: did you have a problem with guidance and displayconfig ? | 09:11 |
| Riddell | superstoned: it's in, we're still to get rid of the google filter | 09:11 |
| Riddell | tvo: how's that going? | 09:11 |
| superstoned | _sime: yes, actually, not me, but someone else | 09:11 |
| tvo | the bar? I got the patch modified | 09:11 |
| _Sime | superstoned: oh... | 09:12 |
| tvo | doesn't show up on anything but KHTMLParts (ie. web).. | 09:12 |
| superstoned | after configuring a second screen he was unable to start x again. | 09:12 |
| superstoned | (dualhead) | 09:12 |
| tvo | and separated it from default searchbar, so one can choose | 09:12 |
| superstoned | tvo: great | 09:12 |
| _Sime | superstoned: are they still around? | 09:12 |
| tvo | and fixed a minor bug | 09:12 |
| superstoned | i got his xorg.conf's and x error's if u want them | 09:12 |
| tvo | still to do: uuencode 3 icons with the kdeaddons package & test, change kubuntu default settings to have searchbar=false for konqueror, otherwise 2 bars show up by default | 09:13 |
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| tvo | and send the debdiffs to Riddell of course :-) | 09:13 |
| hunger | Lure: Any chance for a kpowersave deb that is compatible with the desktops? | 09:13 |
| hunger | Lure: But appart from that klaptopd needs to get fixed for the release. | 09:14 |
| Lure | hunger: not in nice way, unless *-desktop would not require apmd/powernowd | 09:14 |
| superstoned | _sime i got his xorg.conf's and x error's if u want them | 09:14 |
| superstoned | told him to send them to sebas, too | 09:14 |
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| _Sime | superstoned: email them on to me (simon@simonzone.com) | 09:14 |
| Lure | klaptop is not maintained and I am not sure who will look into it... | 09:15 |
| hunger | Lure: Then kpowersave needs to get into kubuntu-laptop instead! | 09:15 |
| hunger | Lure: A broken suspend is too big a regression! | 09:16 |
| sebas | kpowersave's latest even works with Ubuntu's suspend scripts, rather then their own stuff. | 09:16 |
| superstoned | _sime: incoming ;-) | 09:16 |
| Lure | hunger: would be nice, but then it will not for users with ubuntu-/edubuntu-desktop | 09:16 |
| hunger | Lure? | 09:16 |
| superstoned | tvo: adding the quickfilter was no prob? | 09:16 |
| superstoned | i wonder why other distro's don't do it, it has been there for a while... | 09:17 |
| Lure | they can install it together with kubuntu-desktop | 09:17 |
| Lure | This is even suggested in docs (how to get KDE...) | 09:17 |
| tvo | superstoned: quickfilter? guess I'm missing something | 09:17 |
| superstoned | dirfilter? | 09:17 |
| tvo | the bar I get in filemanagement mode? | 09:18 |
| superstoned | yep | 09:18 |
| superstoned | i suggested it to riddell | 09:18 |
| superstoned | been using it for some time, its cool | 09:18 |
| superstoned | and on kubuntu i now see 2 searchbars, google and the dirfilter - you fixed that, didn't you? | 09:19 |
| tvo | ah, you mean whether I succeeded removing the googlebar instead of adding the dirfilter :-) | 09:20 |
| tvo | yeah, succeeded in that | 09:20 |
| superstoned | lol | 09:20 |
| superstoned | yeah | 09:20 |
| superstoned | :D | 09:20 |
| superstoned | tvo: another question, if you don't mind... | 09:20 |
| tvo | no, go ahead | 09:20 |
| superstoned | by moving all the stuff to the locationbar and not showing the main toolbar, we lost the 'dynamic' icons. | 09:20 |
| Riddell | mornfall: Mark says do it (non interactive adept) if it doesn't take up time best spent on more important things (like fixing bugs) | 09:20 |
| superstoned | but now, in some kparts a seperate bar shows up | 09:20 |
| _Sime | sebas: ping | 09:20 |
| _Sime | sebas: does dualhead with guidance work well for you? | 09:21 |
| superstoned | that's nice, but for example the several views you can have in filebrowsing are nowhere to be found (exept in the viewmenu, i didn't even know that before) | 09:21 |
| sebas | _Sime: It doesn't quite get the twinview stuff, and I didn't get around to testing the xinerama config that it'd generate. | 09:21 |
| superstoned | and the seperate bar makes the tabbar go up and down - irritating when scrolling with the mouse. | 09:22 |
| sebas | It finds one card, two monitors though, and in admin mode I can switch to the dualhead thing. | 09:22 |
| _Sime | sebas: I think only xinerama is in there right now. | 09:22 |
| mornfall | Riddell: noone reporting bugs :| | 09:22 |
| Riddell | mornfall: that's because your software is too good :) | 09:23 |
| superstoned | tvo: now i was unable to get dirfilter, google search and locationbar to show up in the main toolbar, together with the dynamic ones. i wonder if you guys tried that. | 09:23 |
| sebas | _Sime: Yeah, that was what I thought too. | 09:23 |
| robotgeek | mornfall: i was about to report a adept bug, then it turned out to be PEBKAC | 09:23 |
| _Sime | sebas: I've been working my a$$ off the last weeks getting the bugs out. ;) | 09:23 |
| mornfall | uhm | 09:23 |
| tvo | superstoned: I noticed that too (the tabbar going up and down), but I wouldn't know a direct solution | 09:23 |
| tvo | superstoned: let me try that | 09:24 |
| raphink | allee: can you post the patch to the sync bug so I can add it please? | 09:24 |
| sebas | _Sime: I'm getting the commit mails, so I know. | 09:24 |
| sebas | You're doing great, indeed. | 09:24 |
| sebas | I've got two bugs on my plate for userconfig, though. | 09:24 |
| superstoned | it won't be easy, tvo - i've been fiddeling with it a few times. but you might be better in this stuff than i am, at least i hope so ;-) | 09:24 |
| _Sime | yeah? | 09:24 |
| superstoned | mornfall: for me adept crashes immediately when i try to show more info about a package. is that known? | 09:24 |
| sebas | 1) do not enter an existing username, or the homedir gets wiped (not checked yet) | 09:24 |
| mornfall | superstoned: not at all | 09:24 |
| mornfall | superstoned: anything resembling more info? | 09:25 |
| sebas | 2) non-ascii characters in full name | 09:25 |
| tvo | superstoned: hm, doubt it, never really fiddled with the toolbars, just haxxored the searchbar to do google suggest.. | 09:25 |
| mornfall | superstoned: first of all version, if possible backtrace, stderr | 09:25 |
| superstoned | mornfall: give me a sec, it just worked for the first time in >5 updates... | 09:25 |
| superstoned | but adept was unable to get control over apt | 09:25 |
| superstoned | (locked) | 09:25 |
| superstoned | mornfall: ok, i just open adept, search for kate, klick and request details. and now nothing happens anymore. | 09:26 |
| allee | raphink: I see what I can do later. I'm very busy. In theory I should close konversation instead of being away ;) | 09:26 |
| superstoned | interface doesn't update anymore, get just a wait cursor. | 09:26 |
| superstoned | i have to kill adept | 09:27 |
| _Sime | sebas: 1) should be already checked for. | 09:27 |
| _Sime | sebas: 2) ??? latin1? | 09:27 |
| sebas | _Sime: I had a brief look in the code, but was tired and didn't find anything obvious. | 09:27 |
| sebas | 2) I guess some conversion between unicode and ?? misses | 09:28 |
| sebas | brb | 09:28 |
| mornfall | superstoned: hmm | 09:28 |
| mornfall | superstoned: happens reliably? | 09:28 |
| superstoned | let me try again... | 09:28 |
| superstoned | :D | 09:28 |
| mornfall | superstoned: what says about box? (version) | 09:29 |
| mornfall | mine says 1.90 Conquest and it also does not freeze doing what you say | 09:29 |
| superstoned | (but yes, i was surprised to see it work just when adept was not able to get a lock) | 09:29 |
| superstoned | 1.90 conquest beta 1 | 09:29 |
| superstoned | found kate, now going to ask for details... | 09:30 |
| superstoned | btw started it from konsole | 09:30 |
| superstoned | and it works?!?!? | 09:30 |
| superstoned | wtf it just hung now it works... | 09:30 |
| superstoned | try again... | 09:30 |
| superstoned | this time from the menu again | 09:31 |
| mornfall | interesting, i managed to crash it... | 09:31 |
| superstoned | and it hangs here too | 09:31 |
| superstoned | OK i got something. if i start it from a konsole with sudo - no problem. if i start it from the kde menu, HANG | 09:32 |
| mornfall | uhm | 09:33 |
| mornfall | well, kate is 404 for me | 09:34 |
| mornfall | even after a fresh update | 09:34 |
| superstoned | i can reliabely hang adept if i start it from the menu, and NOT from the konsole with sudo. | 09:35 |
| superstoned | are these probs related?!? | 09:35 |
| robotgeek | superstoned: used to happen to me before, it works perfectly now | 09:35 |
| tvo | superstoned: I can't seem to separate the googlebar/dirfilter from the main toolbar in any way :( | 09:35 |
| tvo | and I already managed to crash konqueror while fiddling with it.. | 09:36 |
| mornfall | superstoned: pretty weird indeed | 09:36 |
| superstoned | tvo: yeah, that's cool huh ;-) been playing with it a lot, came close... | 09:36 |
| mornfall | superstoned: may be related to kdesu handling output of the program? | 09:36 |
| superstoned | i'll try kdesu adept from commandline... | 09:37 |
| superstoned | it works - no problem there... ?!?!? | 09:37 |
| mornfall | fun, fun | 09:38 |
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| mornfall | i can't crash it... i had it crash but not anymore :| | 09:39 |
| mornfall | may have been related to broken packages | 09:39 |
| superstoned | koffice is broken here, it says upgradable but if i tell it to upgrade, it tells me it'll break | 09:41 |
| mornfall | that generally means it can't be upgraded :)) | 09:42 |
| mornfall | try apt-get install koffice, may tell you more | 09:42 |
| superstoned | kexi | 09:43 |
| superstoned | unmet dep | 09:43 |
| hunger | AbdkSalie | 09:43 |
| hunger | Sorry... | 09:43 |
| mornfall | actually, i know what needs changing | 09:44 |
| mornfall | the icon next to tag in the tagfilter | 09:44 |
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| Tonio_ | re | 09:47 |
| mornfall | hey Tonio_ | 09:47 |
| superstoned | mornfall why? | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ;) | 09:47 |
| mornfall | superstoned: because it confuses people | 09:47 |
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| Tonio_ | just noticed that skim is now installed by default | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | strange | 09:49 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: it seems there's some demand for an adept "package" with warning icon for adept_notifier | 09:49 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: i'm not entirely sure it's good idea (may be to much detail for tiny icon) | 09:50 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: but if you think you may try :)) | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: to many details yes | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: it'll not be visible in the kmenu, but anyway ;) | 09:50 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: no, for the systray | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ahhhhhhhhhhh | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: well it is the same size than in the K menu :) | 09:51 |
| mornfall | that's problem so :) | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | same problem potentially, but I'm trying :) | 09:51 |
| mornfall | i wouldn't bet too much on it | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: we'ill see in a few minutes ;) | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall, what about an animated icon ? | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | like konversation | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | just changing the color ? | 09:54 |
| mornfall | uhm? | 09:56 |
| superstoned | sorry to interupt, mornfall & tonio, i found another little problem in adept: when you have made some changes and preview them, then undo the changes - you can't get back to the package view. | 09:56 |
| mornfall | superstoned: you can... but that reminds me i wanted to fix this ;-) | 09:56 |
| mornfall | superstoned: (you can through the view menu) | 09:57 |
| superstoned | aaah ok | 09:57 |
| Lure | Tonio_: animated icon might be too anoying if you cannot update for some time | 09:57 |
| superstoned | i still think you should try to fix it ;-) | 09:57 |
| superstoned | tnx | 09:57 |
| Lure | (for example on slow modem link or similar) | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: correct | 09:57 |
| mornfall | superstoned: fixed :) | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall, just tried, but 16x16 ic really invisible | 09:58 |
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| Tonio_ | mornfall want to see ? | 09:59 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: sure | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: gimme a minute ;) | 10:01 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: how is that script of mine going? ;-> | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: didn't test at the moment, but I will toonight for sure :) | 10:04 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: k | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: http://planetemu.net/temp/test.png | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ridiculous ;) | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: before testing, I'm going to test on a fresh install | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I have several more problems on my desktop, and is possibly due to the amount of tests I'm doing for k-d-s | 10:11 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: ok, | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I assume you are okay to forget that idea no ? | 10:12 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: sure :) | 10:13 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: but it proves i was right ;-) | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ^_^ | 10:13 |
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| Tonio_ | _Sime: did a fresh install and still the problem.... testing now | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | hum: does someone know why are there 2 openoffice 2.0.1 version ? | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | I'm with a fresh install, and that creates a complete mess in dependancies | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | after my initial dist-upgrade, I have both installed partially, and no writer, no calc etc..... | 11:26 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I think they are moving from openoffice.org2 packages to openoffice.org | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: well I saw the problem 10 days ago in fact ;) I'm a bit surprised to see it again, but if that known, that's okay ;) | 11:28 |
| Lure | I just hope that we will se this fixed and with 2.0.2 version (released today) | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yes ;) | 11:29 |
| Lure | I am just trying manual install of openoffice.org and openoffice.org-kde | 11:32 |
| Lure | will report if it helps... | 11:32 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: it works - just install openoffice.org and openoffice.org-kde | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: already done :) | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: ping ? | 11:41 |
| _Sime | yep | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | concerning the guidance debugging tool, do I need to run it after running the display tool ? | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | I assume yes, but I'd like to be sure :) | 11:42 |
| _Sime | doesn't make that much of a difference | 11:42 |
| _Sime | i'm more interested in the other stuff that gathers. | 11:42 |
| _Sime | do it before. | 11:43 |
| _Sime | changed my mind | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | okay, you will receive a mail in 2 minutes | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: sent | 11:44 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: thanks | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: hope that helps ;) | 11:46 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 11:50 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: which package provide the hotkey function on kubuntu ppc | 11:53 |
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| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: no idea concerning ppc, but I assume it is the same that on x86 | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: kdebase-bin: usr/bin/khotkeys | 11:56 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: adept still can not be used on my ibook | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | here is the package | 11:56 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: i have no idea, unfortunately | 11:56 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: also on my desktop | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: what happens with adept ? | 11:57 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: so far you seem to be only person affected by this | 11:57 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: shall I do a fresh install for that on my desktop , :) | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: fresh dapper install or breezy2dapper one ? | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | ah ;) here is my response :) | 11:58 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: i'd try making a chroot | 11:58 |
| mornfall | with debootstrap | 11:58 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: adept will freeze after it bring up | 11:58 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: I can not use adept for about one month | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: did you try to mv .kde .kde2 to try on a fresh profile ? | 11:59 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: sure | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | damn........ | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: and did you try on a fresh install ? | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | at least on one of your 2 machines ? | 12:00 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: but kmail stuff can work fine on my desktop | 12:00 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: both | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: astonishing.... | 12:00 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: I don't if ishall file bugs | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | maybe due to ppc..... would be interesting to check the package building output | 12:01 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: I found many bugs about kmail ,but it works fine for me | 12:01 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tonio_: I don't know if i shall file bugs | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying-ibook: well, do ! It could be interesting to get a feedback from other ppc users | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | unfortunately I canoot test myself | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | I think raphink has an ibook | 12:03 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: i think someone tried on ppc and it worked there | 12:03 |
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