=== kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah [01:07] hmm is anyone here willing to debug my abysmal C++ coding and get some code working for me ?:P [01:07] raphink: hi [01:07] hi freeflying-ibook [01:08] kontact losing all addresses when closing with message open FIXED! thanks to Till that rocks hard :D === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] Riddell: one more fix to upload :) [01:25] allee: ping [01:25] raphink: pong [01:25] hi :) [01:25] how is digikam going? [01:25] (and how are you doing, too?) [01:26] raphink: deadline stress but I'm almost done. Puh! [01:26] great :) === allee checks digikam build status ... [01:26] till fixed kontact bug with addresses today [01:26] :) [01:27] at least he gave a fix that works, and he said he would work on making it nicer [01:27] raphink: yeah, I've seen it. I did subscribe to the bug [01:27] oh nice [01:27] allee: I've just built and tested, Riddell has the debdiff to upload :) [01:27] I'm so happy with this bugfix [01:27] :) [01:27] digikam build on all archs (only amd64 pending, arm build running) [01:28] :) [01:28] where is it building? [01:28] raphink: debian buildd [01:28] ok :) [01:29] so when it's built we can test sync and request a UVFe [01:29] raphink: so I assume it's save to ask for a sync. but I'll be busy until at least thursday :( ... [01:29] ok [01:29] allee: well I can ask for the sync [01:29] raphink: that's great. Thx a lot!! === allee back to root is sdi during install and sda on reboot :( [01:37] allee: what version is it in Debian? -4 ? [01:37] yes -4 [01:37] ok thanks [01:40] allee: [01:40] This new Debian version fixes the following : [01:40] * kipi plugins now work in digikam (major, since many people want to be able to export to flickr for example) [01:40] * doesn't segfault on amd64 anymore [01:40] anything else allee? [01:41] fix jpeg detection on PPC [01:41] ok [01:41] adds a necessary recommends on dcraw [01:41] ok [01:42] I'll join the changelog anyway :) [01:42] :) [01:42] did you change the package since I used your -4 ? [01:42] or is it the same ? [01:43] raphink: changelog changed afair, ah and tarball: My sponsor used different compression level, so I synced with debian ;) [01:43] ah ok [01:44] I can't find the source in sid yet [01:44] raphink: I also thing the recommends was later [01:44] think* [01:44] I need the package source [01:44] just download whatever debian has [01:45] yep [01:45] I don't have it through apt-get yet [01:45] but I'll get it from the website [01:46] yeah, that what I do too when my sid test hosts isn't working ;) [01:46] :) [01:54] UVFer filed :) [01:55] allee: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34028 if you want to add anything to it [01:55] malone bug 34028 in digikam "UVF exception 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 -> 0.8.1-4" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [01:57] raphink: thx, looks fine. === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred [n=snatch@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred [n=snatch@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred [n=snatch@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === klugez [i=kluge@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] eep [03:38] why are konsole tabs at the bottom now? [03:39] Mez: that was a choice taken at last kubuntu meeting [03:39] and applied by tonio [03:40] so that all tabs are at the bottom in all apps === Mez doesnt like it [03:40] homogeneity [03:40] and arent they at the top now in konv [03:40] ? [03:40] if you don't like it, you can change it in two clicks [03:40] raphink: already hae [03:40] ah? [03:40] ah [03:40] you think it's to the top in konv ? [03:40] konv was changed to have them moved to the top [03:41] ah [03:41] we patched to move back to bottom ;) [03:41] I don't like that [03:41] lol [03:41] hmm [03:41] I'll talk to tonio about that [03:41] not tomorrow cause I think he won't be there [03:41] ;) [03:41] ? [03:41] why [03:41] why you need to talk to him? [03:41] they're at the bottom in konv [03:41] we patched it when like - we found out they were at the top [03:42] I think [03:42] I have to talk to him because he is the one responsible for the tabs settings in kubuntu-default-settings [03:43] kubuntu-default-settings (1:6.04-10) dapper; urgency=low [03:43] . 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[08:42] i'm not sure - i'm not sure what it is - if it relates to dpi or what [08:42] oh goody, a user-error bug [08:43] yeah I have Option "DPMS" in my monitor sections in xorg.conf not sure what it does tho [08:43] ah ok === Hobbsee thought she'd leave it open, and wait till LeeJunFan gave more info (when he comes back) [08:44] presumably its either on or off tho [08:44] bug 34041 [08:44] malone bug 34041 in kdenetwork kopete "Kopete displays the wrong name in conversation windows" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34041 [08:45] i'm assuming that's just a user error bug - it's global identity [08:45] "DPMS is used to communicate between your monitor and computer to make your computer turn off your monitor when you have been neglecting it for a given period of time" [08:45] so power saving? [08:45] then that's also in the system settings, display tab - the last tab in that section === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-170.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:43] Hobbsee: yay! [10:43] hey Tm_T [10:43] what's yay? [10:43] just, yay [10:43] say it [10:44] =) [10:44] ah, ok [10:44] Hobbsee: what's up [10:44] Tm_T: not a lot, just had a very hot and spicy dinner...and so now i feel pretty sick :P === Tm_T is noisy lazy idiot with adsl fast enough to flood in irc [10:46] lol === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] also I should be packaging stuff... blah, not now [10:47] i thought you were supposed to be bug fixing, as it's after feature freeze... [10:47] maybe coffee and homebaked bread... :) [10:48] Hobbsee: should do beta1 packages, it's out :) [10:48] after that I will look into bugs :) [10:48] talking about Kopete ofcourse [10:48] beta1 packages of... [10:48] ah.... [10:48] still plenty of bugs in kopete... [10:48] ofcourse [10:48] where's the beta1 stuff? svn? [10:48] there too [10:49] but, wait... [10:50] hang on, how does it get split from kdenetwork? [10:51] what you mean? [10:51] ah yes, it's only in svn atm [10:52] well, apt-get source kopete gets the entire kdenetwork [10:52] and it all compiles together [10:52] yes [10:53] so how would one go about packaging it separately? [10:53] because in normal KDE release cycle Kopete is part of kdenetwork [10:53] but 0.12is _separate_ release [10:53] true === Hobbsee wonders how the deps would work then [10:53] so it must be packaged separately [10:54] Hobbsee: aye, that's small problem [10:54] yeah, i got that bit [10:54] yaaaagh, what a feeling... [10:55] Hobbsee: you do use Kopete? [10:55] Tm_T: of course [10:56] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122606 [10:56] have noticed this little baby? [10:56] really annoying [10:57] that's something I would like to fix to beta2 [10:57] i havent, actually [10:58] it gets sent to the little icon at the bottom, and then i hit view to view the message [10:58] losing no focus at all [10:59] aye, you use message queue/stack [10:59] but when you set it to "open messages instantly" ;) [11:00] Tm_T: true, which i prefer not to use... [11:00] but yeah, i see the point [11:00] hehe === Tm_T send end part of sentences to wrong contacts every day [11:00] well, i really want something from someone from kubuntu/ubuntu splashing across my screen with teh parents in the room, viewing a webpage or wahtever [11:01] uh, I don't understand [11:01] as in, i dont instantly want my parents reading all my PM's over my shoulder [11:01] so i can hit ignore or view, based on just who it is [11:02] it's a personal preference thing, it's ok :P [11:02] true [11:02] hmmm [11:02] guys [11:02] where would kmail / kwallet store its passwords [11:02] viviersf: what you mean? [11:02] kwallet afaik encrypts them [11:03] with which encryption [11:03] ? [11:04] no idea [11:05] but main idea of kwallet is to not show password without kwallet ;) [11:05] hehe [11:05] you'd think so, yes [11:05] it'll be in kmailrc or kwalletrc, i expect [11:05] kopete's is in kopeterc === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:42] hi ;) [11:42] hey Tonio_ === MrFaber [i=id@tor/session/x-7cf8248e8f0cdb9d] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] hi all === Lure [n=luka@BSN-77-135-17.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] Does anyone useing module assistant? === ArmeBosse [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] BTW adept systray updater shows update which are keept back from apt-get which is a little bit confuseing === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrFaber_ [n=MrFaber@tor/session/x-065d73ff799ebd2d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.120.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] cu all === MrFaber_ [n=MrFaber@tor/session/x-065d73ff799ebd2d] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-185.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A643F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D30DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=ubuntu@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:21] umm did soemonthing change in the latest updates where tabs for konsole now appear at the bottom of the screen instead of the top? [05:21] jjesse: k-d-s [05:24] how come ? [05:28] just default settings [05:28] so change if you don't like [05:29] ;) [05:33] i liked the other default settings :( [05:33] raphink: both uploaded [05:37] jjesse: I didn't ;( [05:40] Tm_T: who decides? [05:42] we did [05:42] atleast I though [05:43] +t [05:52] awwww [05:53] ok, somehow my kmenu doesn't work as expected [05:54] Riddell: thanks much :) :) [05:55] somewhat annoying, I removed kmenu file from ~/.config/menus/ [05:55] but, default menu doesn't come up [05:55] still the modified one [05:56] raphink: thank you [06:06] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/uisprint/ kubuntu-default-settings from Mark [06:06] plus the crystal window theme he wants === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] bah, I'll shut down whole system, had enough for awhile -> [06:10] Riddell: what are the changes? [06:10] Riddell: is this the kwin-style-crystal from REVU? [06:12] yes [06:12] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/windeco.png [06:13] hmm looks like the new ubuntu theme [06:13] and a bit like the vista one, too iirc [06:13] i like it [06:13] yes, we need to change the buttons [06:14] ok [06:14] what are the changes to k-d-s? [06:15] darker selected colour, lipstik uses plastik shading on buttons, menus have drop shadow [06:16] the 1024x768 background for ksplash looks weird [06:16] why? [06:17] it's very different from the other ones [06:17] ignore the other ones :) [06:17] I prefer the other ones [06:17] ;) [06:17] what do you prefer? [06:17] the way it is now [06:18] yes, but what about it? [06:18] the background, the dialogue? [06:18] the colors and shapes are smoother [06:18] this new one has a much higher contrast in for the backgroud [06:18] and I don't like the way kubuntu is written [06:18] it's too synthetic to me [06:19] I just prefer the older one [06:19] the kdm kubuntu log is more up to date [06:20] hmm [06:20] yeah but I still prefer the way it is now [06:20] dunno, I don't feel at ease with this artwork [06:20] it's too ... cold somehow [06:20] that is just personal I guess [06:20] ;) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-040-189.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] I don't like the usplash either :( [06:22] but heh if the majority of people like it, it's good [06:22] :) [06:24] i think its ok, but this background at kdm and ksplash [06:24] OculusAquilae: how do you mean? [06:25] raphink: these bubbles [06:25] you liike them? [06:25] no [06:25] ok [06:25] me neither [06:25] I like how kubuntu is written, but not these bubbles [06:25] Tonio_: why do we want konversation logs in a hidden directory? [06:26] why not the bubbles? [06:26] (we can't actually use that image) [06:26] I'm not at ease with that image at all [06:26] it's too dark, too synthetic [06:27] and not sharp [06:27] :) === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [n=amu@kubuntu.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:27] OculusAquilae: it's a half size sample from gettyimages, we don't have copyright on it, so that won't be the final one [06:27] ok [06:27] Riddell: because all application, like kopete, are hiding logs, and enables you to display them in the software [06:28] Tonio_: so you can view the logs in konversion? === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:28] konversation does the same (right click a channel, display logs) [06:28] Riddell: absolutly [06:28] so I don't think it is really usefull in ~ directly [06:28] ok, groovy [06:28] Riddell: just a question [06:28] that prevents from charging ~ with too many folders [06:28] I'm looking at the new design here [06:29] are you going to use moodin ? [06:29] I wonder how much scanning for nsplugins at startup slows down startup [06:29] moodin doesn't support UTF-8 [06:29] cause I studied it a lot and that will NOT work [06:29] raphink: for what? [06:29] because you have no way to dynamically set the resolution [06:29] Riddell: for my name... [06:29] Riddell: in many languages, names have accents [06:29] Riddell: and I don't like to see my name with squares instead of at startup [06:29] curious, you have to try quite hard in Qt not to support utf8 [06:30] Riddell: therefore, the background will be stretched for 16/9 screens [06:30] Riddell: and more than that, it has been reported that moodin creates lots of problems with big resolutions, like 1900x1600 [06:30] Riddell: btw, the kde-guidance module for users doesn't like my name either. It prevents me from editing it... [06:30] raphink: poke sebas [06:30] raphink: I'm working with _Sime on that point, have tests to perform toonight [06:31] sebas: ping [06:31] Riddell: what about the icons that use hardcoded coords ? [06:31] or not, if it's being worked on [06:31] that creates issues on my laptop, which is wxga [06:31] Tonio_: yes, that's somewhat crazy [06:31] wxga? [06:31] Riddell: not crazy, just logic because moodin if full coords based [06:31] Riddell: aboiut the background for kubuntu : users want something smooth, something nice to look at and relaxing... these bubbles are aggressive to the eyes [06:32] Riddell: therefore not usable by default on a distro I'm affraid [06:32] raphink: you think? they look smooth to me [06:32] Riddell: not to me [06:32] raphink: choose another name or send a patch. [06:32] Just kidding :-) [06:32] What name does it not like exactly? [06:32] sebas: my name was chosen by my parents and written on all my official papers I'm afraid ;) [06:32] Riddell: I read the full moodin sources, I tested 10 moodin themes, read all docs, and I can confirm that we will not be able to use it by default I'm affraid.... [06:32] sebas: my name is Raphal, with uml on the [06:33] sebas: wanna see what I get ? [06:33] each theme as to be set depending the computer's resolution... [06:33] Ah, I should've come across it myself, my surname has an umlaut as well. [06:33] raphink: Show me :-) [06:34] Riddell: the only way to provide a "zero-config" ksplash theme is to use a non "background based" one, which is not possible with moodin. Only the "dafult" engine allow that [06:34] Tonio_: we could use UsersBackground in moodin [06:36] Riddell: yes, and what about the "white square" ? [06:36] Riddell: moodin doesn't allow the usage of a front image [06:36] Riddell: only a background and icons [06:36] Riddell: you can't use another image in it.... I've spent about 1 complete week trying to find out ;) [06:38] Riddell: if you use the user's background, you will miss the "Kubuntu white square" [06:38] raphink: I think I can reproduce it here, will try so as soon as I find the time. [06:38] ok :) [06:38] And if you could tell me if /etc/passwd may contain unicode, that'd be even better :-) [06:38] Riddell: another solution is to use a transparent background, with only the white Square and transparent else [06:38] sebas: it works fine with kuser (just a note) [06:38] Riddell: but the problem if that doesn't resolv the stretching issue.... [06:39] Does KUser put unicode into /etc/passwd? (If yes, we should too) [06:39] no [06:39] Tonio_: k-d-s from March 6th you send looks all good, I'll upload [06:39] s/send/sent/ [06:39] Riddell: thanks :) [06:39] sebas: you're modelling guidance on kuser? [06:40] Riddell: note that I'm not telling you that I don't want moodin [06:40] Riddell: No, but it'd give a hint as to what encoding doesn't break other things. [06:40] Riddell: well the fact is that kuser works on this matter [06:40] Riddell: juste that I carrefully tried, and I can unsure you we are waisting our time [06:40] Tonio_: I'm listening [06:40] Riddell: unless we patch moodin to autodetect the user's resolution and then use the convenient background automatically [06:41] Tonio_: isn't that what it does? [06:41] Riddell: nope [06:41] but that's what all the Background-1024xfoo.jpg images are for [06:41] Riddell: if you don't specify the background, and let that variable empty, it will try, in that order [06:42] Background-x.jpg [06:42] Background.jpg [06:42] Riddell: width and height are extracted from the BaseResolution variable [06:42] Riddell: not from the user's config [06:42] here is the way it works [06:42] Riddell: another issue is that icons are fixed coords [06:43] and they have to be adapted depending the background used [06:43] Riddell: because the same coords will not go in the same part of the image depending the user's config [06:43] there are lots of problems reported on kde-apps concerning the actual moodin theme I added [06:44] and the only response is : adept the coords to feet your screen settings [06:44] that's the reason moodin cannot be used by default on a distro in actual developpment state.... [06:45] linspire uses it :) [06:45] ahum? [06:45] Riddell: well, could be interesting to look how they implemented it [06:45] yo mornfall [06:45] Riddell: but I really doubt that doesn't cause any issue... unless they patched moodin to autodetect X parameters [06:45] mornfall: what do you think of non-interactive install for adept? [06:46] Riddell: i think we are somewhat past feature freeze [06:46] it can be done [06:46] but it's feature freeze breach [06:47] Riddell: have to leave work, going back home. do you want we spend a bit of time toonight making a point on this ? [06:47] Mark wants the language tool, and that's dependent on a nice GUI for installing packages [06:47] Tonio_: on moodin? [06:47] Riddell: yes ! If linspire uses it, I really want to unerstand why [06:47] well, they wrote it [06:47] i don't completely get what's moodin about [06:48] Riddell: moodin is written by linspire ??????, [06:48] yes, moodin is a fork of the linspire splash [06:49] is it really just about svg splashscreen? or is there something useful in it [06:49] Riddell: any screenshots of what the language tool actually does? [06:49] Riddell: moodin's homepage : http://moodwrod.com [06:49] not linspire [06:49] Tonio_: read again, it's linspire codebase, forked [06:50] mornfall: okay ;) [06:50] well I'll have a look at that toonight, cause really, I don't understand how can that thing be used dynamically [06:51] sorry I messed Riddell's comment concerning the fork :) [06:51] I will install linspire toonight and we'll see ;) [06:51] they don't have a central image like we are using [06:51] it's just a background with icons along the middle [06:51] Riddell: ah ! that way, no pb [06:52] you can simply use the user's background, indeed [06:53] or a transparent one, which is possible too === freeflying [n=zhengpen@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:55] Riddell: well, linspire uses the option "icons inline" [06:56] with this, no coords are necessary [06:56] Riddell: but that means you cannot configure anything [06:56] icons are centered and inline, and that's it.... [06:56] Riddell: very limited if you want to provide something nice [07:22] bah [07:23] there was kdelibs update today? === _nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:28] Tm_T: yes, why? === toma_ is now known as toma [07:30] Tm_T: no kopete package for dapper today? ;) [07:30]