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celerateLVM = logical volume management12:03
zizai explained it a little an hour ago12:03
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zizacelerate: right :)12:03
HymnToLife!lvm12:04
ubotuwell, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/12:04
ziza_emmanuel: do you mean it Linux makes you more calm or more aggressive? :)12:04
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ziza-it12:04
celerateziza, yes, but usually more calm12:05
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celerateif you have high blood pressure I highly recommend linux, Windows may be putting your health at risk12:05
zizaok, but that's not always the case12:05
nukyhi, i installed superkaramba by converting the tar.gz to a deb with alien.. do you know where it would have installed to? i can't find it in menu, terminal, find or locate.. :/12:05
Snake__nuky: can you run it via alt+f2?12:06
zizafor example, i was lucky in that i didn't have to compile anything the first time installed ubuntu. i just could figure enough out in order to setup w32codecs, installing dep packets and such12:06
HymnToLifecelerate> not to mention it can create in you a hatred towards blue color12:07
celeratehaha, too true HymnToLife12:07
HymnToLifewhich is not good for french people, especially those who like soccer12:07
zizaor setting up my internet connection via the command line :), had to research the commands on my windows machine12:07
celerateever since switching to Linux though, I've learned to forgive blue12:07
nukySnake__: nah, i get a pop-up saying, Could not run the specified command.12:07
Snake__nuky: hmm your sure it installed?12:08
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nukyi'm starting to think it didn't.. i did "apropos super" and it didn't turn up either..12:09
nukybut when i uninstalled with dpkg, it said that 102184 files were removed!! grrrr12:10
Snake__lol12:10
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celerateare you sure there's no existing superkaramba package already?12:10
nukyi can only find the tar.gz... and when i tried to compile from source, i had a few issues with Qt and i thought the dpkg installation would resolve that..12:11
HymnToLifehmmmmm that LVM thing is very intersting indeed12:11
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Snake__nuky: get this12:11
Snake__!qt12:11
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package12:11
celerateI'm going to assume ubotu is a bot because it responds to !* and has 'bot' in it's name12:12
nukyahhh!! cool.. thanks!! :)12:12
Snake__celerate: Yessir :)12:12
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HymnToLife!ubotu12:13
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.12:13
celeratehey, was it what said hello to me when I joined?12:13
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HymnToLife!hello12:17
ubotuHi, hymntolife!12:17
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Kr4t05Anyone know where I can get those neat desktop widgets for KDE?12:34
Kr4t05IE: RAM used, CPU usage12:34
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frank23Kr4t05: the sysguard applet can do that in the taskbar12:36
frank23Kr4t05: it comes with kde12:37
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ccc_Kr4t05: for the desktop, try superkaramba12:40
Brydennwho here knows a bit about GRUB?12:40
dcwckdhey all12:40
Brydenni have some questions about GRUB12:40
dcwckdBrydenn: ask12:40
frank23Brydenn: just ask12:40
Brydennk well... I have Ubuntu as my Master Drive and WinXP Pro as my Slave... how can I (through GRUB) boot to windows from the GRUB menu?12:41
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Brydenncuz it's not showing up as an option12:41
dcwckddid you install grub with the ubuntu cd12:41
Brydennwell i believe i did a full system update12:42
dcwckdhas anyone experienced any problems with WMVs, I can see video, but audio really jumps on some of them, not all, I know WMV is a wrapper class, is there anyway to tell if im missing an audio codec12:42
dcwckdBrydenn: um, one sec12:42
frank23dcwckd: what do you mean by jump? it skips?12:42
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dcwckdyup12:43
frank23dcwckd: I have the same problem when I use xine (kaffeine) but it works with mplayer12:43
dcwckdthanks frank12:43
Brydenni'm plaing a WMV and the audio isnt skipping,etc12:43
dcwckdwill install mplayer12:43
frank23dcwckd: kmplayer and kplayer are 2 players that use mplayer12:43
dcwckdBrydenn: add this to grub\12:43
Brydennk12:44
dcwckdhttp://pastebin.com/58997012:44
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dcwckdfrank23: which should I install12:44
dcwckdBrydenn: obviously change hd, to represent the physical drive12:45
frank23dcwckd: i use kmplayer but you have to compile it yourself12:45
dcwckdBrydenn: do a "locate menu.list"12:45
dcwckdfrank23: thanks12:45
frank23dcwckd: do you know how to compile software?12:46
Brydennthis the right one dcwckd ? /var/lib/doc-base/info/menu.list12:46
dcwckdmo12:46
dcwckdno12:46
dcwckdshould be like /etc/grub/menu.list12:46
dcwckdand add the entry to the bottom of the file12:46
dcwckdfrank23: i dont need a gui12:47
dcwckdlol12:47
dcwckdmplayer filename works just fine :P12:47
frank23dcwckd: ok12:47
frank23dcwckd: I think our problem is due to xine and a specific sound driver... what is your sound card?12:48
dcwckdbut thanks12:48
dcwckdWMV is playing perfectly12:48
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dcwckdi have a SBLive 5.112:48
dcwckdis there anyword with kubuntu booting with EFI?12:49
frank23dcwckd: hmm... maybe not. I have via integrated12:49
dcwckdBrydenn: fix it?12:51
Brydennnot sure12:51
Brydennwhat do i rename the HD though12:51
Brydenncuz defualt is HD0?12:51
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Brydennmy windows drive is named HDB1 under linux12:51
Brydennbut i'm not sure if thats what i should rename it to12:51
dcwckdis your windows drive12:52
dcwckda partition12:52
dcwckdor a physical drive12:52
Brydennno its a seperate drive12:52
Brydennphysical12:52
dcwckdsec12:52
Brydennk12:52
dcwckd(hd1,0) should work12:52
Brydennhmm ok12:53
dcwckdis there anyword with kubuntu booting with EFI?12:53
dcwckdmy new mini is coming this week12:53
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songohey!!12:56
songoquick way to eject cd-rom12:56
songohow?12:56
dcwckd!eject12:56
ubotudcwckd: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:56
songoWAW12:57
songothat was quick enough12:57
songobye12:57
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songowait a minute12:58
songowhat is '!' about??12:58
songowhat else i ican do with it?12:59
HymnToLifeit's to have ubotu give answers12:59
HymnToLifebecause we are too lazy to say them ourselves12:59
HymnToLifeto eject a CD, right click on his icon on the desktop and hit 'Eject'01:00
songodoens't01:00
HymnToLifeany errors ?01:00
songodevice is mounted01:00
dcwckdunmount it01:01
HymnToLifenormally eject unmounts as well...01:01
dcwckdnoramlly01:01
songodoesn't allways01:01
dcwckdforcefully unmount it01:01
dcwckdor reboot01:01
songo!eject still quicker01:01
ubotusongo: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:01
HymnToLifesongo> what if you run eject from a CLI ?01:01
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ccc_songo: you have a konqueror window with the cdrom open, or standing in the cdrom dir in a terminal? if it can't unmount, it's being used somehow.01:02
songoi've already ejected the cd! what's wrong with u?01:02
HymnToLifeccc_> then I guess it would say 'Can't unmount /dev/hdwhatever - device in use'01:02
songoi just want to know what '!' means01:03
HymnToLifeI told you01:03
HymnToLifeit's to have ubotu tell answers when we are too lazy to do it ourselves01:03
songook01:03
dcwckdfor example01:04
dcwckd!mp301:04
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped01:04
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:04
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ccc_Glin|Jol: please...01:05
ccc_HymnToLife: ah, true.01:05
songonever mind, i'll try man !01:06
songoman never lets me down01:06
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Brydennok that didnt work01:06
Brydenndidnt boot to windows01:06
Brydennhd1,0 didnt work :(01:07
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heckhi all.. any pointers to how can i reinstall the bootloader?01:18
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bimberi!grub01:22
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting01:22
bimberiheck: maybe something in that lot ^^^^^ :)01:22
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heckbimberi: thanks .. i googled but haven't had much luck01:23
callieheck, was it after you re installed windows?01:24
heckcallie: no i installed it on a qemu vm but rebooted the machine before i install the bootloader (was sleeping anyway lol)01:25
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bestadvocatehey guys, you know the Cover Manager for amarok?  is there anyway to save the cover art with the music files so that other programs can register the art?01:35
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apappuhello all I just have a question.  if I want to see the source code for say any application like ls where how do i get the source in ubuntu01:37
ccc_bestadvocate: try #amarok01:37
apappuwhat is amarock? and how do i use it01:38
HymnToLifethis was not for you apappu :)01:38
HymnToLifeyou can get the source of everything from packages.ubuntu.com01:38
apappusorry my bad01:38
apappuis there a way I can use apt-get to get the source01:38
HymnToLifeyes01:39
HymnToLifebut I don't know it :p01:39
HymnToLifeit's been a while since I downloaded sources01:39
LjLapappu: yeah01:40
LjLapappu: sudo apt-get source packagename01:40
LjLapappu: you need to have your source lines enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list01:41
bestadvocateccc_:ok01:41
LjLapappu: apt-get -b source packagename will download the source *and* compile it01:41
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mikearthurhow do I upgrade a package that has been "kept back"01:53
CaptainbrailleHi, I have a game cd in my cd drive,, when I go to /cdrom I can't see any files, but if I make an image of the cd, then mount the image, I can see the files. If there a setting or a way I can see the images without having to do that?01:54
HymnToLifeCaptainbraille> are you _sure_ your drive is mounted to /cdrom ?01:55
CaptainbrailleHymnToLife: I'm not sure, how do I found out if it is?01:56
HymnToLifeCaptainbraille> cat /etc/fstab01:56
CaptainbrailleHymnToLife: should I just paste the results here?01:57
HymnToLifejust the line involving your cdrom drive01:57
Captainbraillethose are the cd drives.. "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:57
Captainbraille/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:57
Captainbraille"01:57
HymnToLifehoho01:58
HymnToLifeyou have two drives01:58
Captainbraillelol, what?01:58
HymnToLifeso you should go and see in /media/cdrom101:58
Captainbrailleis that okay?01:58
HymnToLife/cdrom is a symlink redirecting to /media/cdrom001:59
HymnToLifeand obviously you insert your CD in the other drive01:59
HymnToLifeso you'll find your files in /media/cdrom101:59
CaptainbrailleHymnToLife: I don't see anything in either of the cdrom0/1 folders, the disc is the expansion to diablo 2, could it be because there are all exe and dll files?01:59
HymnToLifenope02:00
HymnToLifeis your driv mounted ?02:00
HymnToLiferun sudo mound /dev/hdc02:00
CaptainbrailleHow do I check that? sorry, I'm a real newb02:00
HymnToLifeor sudo mount /dev/hdd depending in which drive is your CD02:00
Captainbrailleokay02:00
HymnToLifemount*02:00
Captainbrailleokay I got this.. mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only02:01
HymnToLifeok02:01
HymnToLifeso now you'll find your files in /media/cdrom102:01
Captainbrailleokay, now it's showing files02:01
HymnToLifeit's weir though02:02
HymnToLifeit _shoul_ mount it automatically02:02
CaptainbrailleIs there a way to make that happen automatically? oh it should =P02:02
HymnToLifefor some reason it doesn't but it should be back to normal after reboot02:03
Captainbrailleokay, I'll try rebooting now =) Be right back02:03
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there02:06
Tallia1Kubuntui need someone with basics BASH programming abilities02:06
Tallia1Kubuntui am trying to modify the execution of firefox such that i will never have more than one instance running02:06
HymnToLifeTallia1Kubuntu> you'l find more people able to help you in #ubuntu02:06
Tallia1Kubuntuand every new url request is displayed simply in a new tab02:07
HymnToLifethere's an argument about bah scripting going on :D02:07
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy?02:07
HymnToLifeoh02:07
Tallia1Kubuntuthe script is very simple but i think i  put some errors02:07
Tallia1Kubuntucan you take a look?02:07
Tallia1Kubuntubash syntax errors02:07
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Tallia1Kubuntupastebin02:07
HymnToLifehmm maybe I'm not very good at it though02:07
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/BKZg3y87.html02:07
Tallia1Kubuntuit's veery simple02:08
Tallia1Kubuntubut i didn't use it for 2 years02:08
HymnToLifeI don't remmber it right now02:08
HymnToLifebut in man firefox you will surely have the comand to open in a new tab02:08
Tallia1Kubuntuin the script there's already all i need02:10
Tallia1Kubuntuit's a bash error02:10
HymnToLifeI can't help you with it sorry02:10
HymnToLifesee in #ubuntu02:11
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Tallia1Kubuntuok02:11
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CaptainbrailleHymnToLife, it still doesn't mount automatically, and when I use 'sudo mount /dev/hdd' the cdrom drive won't open02:18
HymnToLifethat's normal02:18
Captainbraillebut I can use "sudo eject /dev/hdd" to eject =)02:18
HymnToLifeyou need to eject is (sudo eject /dev/hdd)02:18
HymnToLifeor right click on the destop icon > eject02:18
Captainbrailleokay, so that is normal02:19
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Captainbrailleis there anything else you can think of that may be a problem or that I should check?02:19
HymnToLifeabout the auto mounting ?02:20
Captainbraillewhat do you mean?02:20
HymnToLifeno, sorry :/02:20
Captainbraillethats fine, at least not I know how to make it load =) Thanks for the help Hymn02:21
HymnToLifeyou're welcome :)02:21
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KyralWhee my mailserver works :D02:22
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi02:48
Tallia1Kubuntui still have problems with my script02:48
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone can take a look?02:48
HymnToLifeI still can't help you ;)02:48
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Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/RLBCR863.html02:48
Tallia1Kubuntu:)02:48
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pestilencei switched from ubuntu to kubuntu (gnome -> kde), and when i reboot, if i don't run "gnome-theme-manager" once in KDE, all of the fonts are very large in apps such as 1) Firefox, 2) Konsole and 3) evolution.  does anybody know why this is and how to fix it?03:10
robotgeekpestilence: try setting it in System Settings -> Appearance -> gtk icons03:11
pestilenceis this in kde?03:11
robotgeekyes03:12
pestilenceahhh03:13
pestilencehope that works :)03:13
pestilenceunder "gtk styles and fonts", it was set to "use another font"03:13
HymnToLifedidn't work much for me...03:13
pestilenceso i changed it to "use my kde fonts in gtk apps"03:14
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HkS-3207helo03:15
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pestilenceonly way to know if this worked is to reboot, so...off i go03:18
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nargHow would you set special windows settings in kwin if its forced to be maximized... :/03:23
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pestilenceno such luck :-(03:24
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robotgeeknarg: right click -> advanced -> special application/window setting03:25
nargsee now, thats my problem03:25
nargthere is no border to do that on :p03:26
nargand there is no way to get one...03:26
robotgeeknarg: ah, sweet :)03:26
nargheh, a move that lacked forsight on my part.03:27
robotgeeknarg: i think it's called kwin or something, i am not sure03:28
nargyea, that is the window manager. Do you think dcop would work to set it?03:28
HkS-3207can you install the packages in the system, after you got the core system installed on it ?03:29
pestilenceHkS-3207, if you like.03:29
HkS-3207how ?03:30
HkS-3207:x03:30
HkS-3207i get an error with some packages03:30
HkS-3207at installation time03:30
pestilenceHkS-3207, what is the error03:30
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HkS-3207somehow it was unable to copy the file03:30
HkS-3207cd may be corrupted or disk may be full03:30
robotgeeknarg: kwin_rules_dialog --help03:30
HkS-3207but is a 20gb hd, so i think its the disc03:30
nargrobotgeek: thanks :)03:30
pestilenceHkS-3207, what command did you run, and what error did you get03:30
HymnToLifeHkS-3207> have you checked your CD ?03:30
HkS-3207pestilence,  installing03:30
HkS-3207HymnToLife,  dont know how to do that03:30
pestilenceHkS-3207, if you have the network, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use it03:31
pestilence!sources03:31
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:31
pestilencewell, that's not exactly what i wanted.03:31
pestilence!repositories03:31
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:31
pestilencebah.03:31
HkS-3207lol03:31
HymnToLifeHkS-3207> md5sum the ISO and burn at low speed03:31
HymnToLifethen if you're paranoid, md5sum the burned disc03:32
robotgeek!verify03:32
ubotuhmm... verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto03:32
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robotgeekmaybe that ^03:32
HkS-3207mm03:32
HkS-3207but i got it on win..03:32
HymnToLifeyou can md5sum on win too03:32
HymnToLife!md5sum03:32
ubotufrom memory, md5sum is to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:32
HkS-3207o wow lol03:32
HkS-3207how do i do it on a burned disk ?03:33
HkS-3207:d03:33
nargrobotgeek: any idea how to find the window id?03:33
HymnToLifeHkS-3207> you have to create an ISO out of it03:33
HkS-3207im trying to install it on a ibook03:33
HkS-3207HymnToLife, i burned from an iso03:33
HymnToLifeyeah03:33
HymnToLifebut it _might_ be corrupted during burning especially if you burn at high speed03:34
HkS-3207oh03:34
HkS-3207mayb..03:34
HymnToLifemany people burned from a good ISO and ended with bad CDs03:34
HymnToLifefor whatever reason03:34
robotgeeknarg: xwininfo03:34
HkS-3207how come03:34
bimberiHkS-3207: does the partial install boot and get a working net connection?03:34
HymnToLifeHkS-3207> because zero risk does not exist03:34
HymnToLifeeven when you burn at 4x03:35
HkS-3207bimberi,  no network03:35
bimberiHkS-3207: kk :|03:35
HkS-3207HymnToLife,  and that is.. ?03:35
HymnToLife?03:36
HkS-3207oh nvm03:36
HkS-3207wrong line03:36
nargrobotgeek: so, doing kwin_rules_dialog --wid 0xdeafbeef just gives me a should not be called directly error. Am I missing something?03:38
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HkS-3207kubuntu should develop something that could be able to check installation disks's before installing03:39
HkS-3207that way you could be sure that them cd's work03:39
Random_Transithey...I'm having trouble installing drivers for my printer03:40
robotgeekHkS-3207: it's there on the cd, actually03:40
HkS-3207oh03:41
HkS-3207where03:41
HkS-3207i didnt saw that part when going through the installation03:41
robotgeekHkS-3207: it should be at the bottom of the options03:41
HkS-3207didn't saw it03:41
Random_Transitit's a lexmark z70003:42
robotgeekHkS-3207: it's there, i am not sure how to explain :)03:42
HkS-3207check the cd-rom integrity ?03:42
HkS-3207i'm going to burn another disk at a low speed03:43
HkS-3207cuz this one was burned at 50x03:43
HkS-3207maybe 12 will be ok03:43
HkS-3207ill be back :)03:43
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nargrobotgeek: heh, those tools ended up being annoying, so I just hand-edited the rc file :p03:49
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there04:32
Tallia1Kubuntuanybody ever tried win4lin?04:32
frank23nope is that an emulator?04:32
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:33
frank23like wine?04:33
Tallia1Kubuntuthey tell is as fast as running windows in local04:33
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:33
ThedekI prefer to just use VMWare Player for anything that requires Windows.04:33
Tallia1Kubuntuvmware is SLOW....04:34
me2winThedek, can you use photoshop undewr vmware?04:34
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:34
Tallia1Kubuntuvmware is windows.04:34
ThedekYup04:34
Tallia1Kubuntuthe only problem is that you need to COMPLETELY run windows and linux at the same time04:34
ThedekI don't think it's that slow, honestly.04:34
me2winif youve got windows installed already, can you use your existing install? like from another partition04:34
frank23Tallia1Kubuntu: what is win4lin exactly? a virtual machine running windows?04:35
ThedekI don't believe so, but there might be a way to convert an installed instance into a VMWare instance.04:35
Tallia1Kubuntuit works over qemu04:35
Tallia1KubuntuThedek: there's but it's risky as they said04:36
frank23yeah you need a Windows 2000 license to run win4lin04:36
Tallia1Kubuntufrank23: yes,,04:37
Tallia1Kubuntuas you need a windows* licence to run an istance of windows under vmware04:38
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frank23Tallia1Kubuntu: so its equivalent to running windows in vmware04:39
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Tallia1Kubuntui think vmware is slow04:39
Tallia1Kubuntuit have to use virtual drives..04:39
Tallia1Kubuntuthat is file system caching is not used04:39
ThedekActually, it looks like you can use qemu-img to create a vm image of an existing drive or partition.04:40
ThedekTallia1Kubuntu: I don't run Windows for speed, I run it because I have some apps that I can't escape. =P04:40
Tallia1Kubuntume too04:40
ThedekAnd then I kill it as soon as possible, heh.04:40
Tallia1Kubuntubut mine is quite unusable.. extremely slow04:40
frank23Tallia1Kubuntu: win4lin doesn't have a virtual drive?04:40
Tallia1Kubuntuno, i think is like wine04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuit use the linux FS04:41
ThedekHow big is your VMware instance of windows, Tallia?04:41
frank23Tallia1Kubuntu: can windows apps in win4lin access usb and other hardware?04:41
nargTallia1Kubuntu: nerp. VMware totally clones stuff.04:41
Tallia1KubuntuThedek: what do you mean?04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuthe file?04:41
ThedekYeah04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuthe virtual disk file?04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuaround 4 GB04:42
frank23Tallia1Kubuntu: wine is different. it doesn't contain any Microsoft code, and it can't run all windows apps?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntuthe basic installation + acrobat pro + maple1004:42
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nargfrank23: Wine is a free reimplementation of the win32 api. It isn't an emulator.04:42
ThedekYeah, I found a WinXPPro+SP2 installation with no other software hit 4 GB all by its lonesome.04:42
ThedekTallia1Kubuntu: How much physical memory in your box and how much are you allowing VMWare to use?04:42
Tallia1KubuntuThedek: i have 51204:43
ThedekHow much do you let VMware use?04:43
Tallia1Kubuntuand i put the scroller on the vmware suggested one04:43
Tallia1Kubuntulet me check......04:43
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frank23i give vmware machines 256 MBs and I have 1GB ram total04:43
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ThedekYeah, I'd almost say that's it.  I have 1GB ram in my boxen and give VMware 256 to 512.04:43
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Tallia1Kubuntuwow.. that's a lots of memory :)04:43
ThedekWinXP doesn't really like anything less than 256.04:43
Tallia1Kubuntuwait .. i just updated the kernel04:44
Thedekerp, I lied... I have 2GB in this box... forgot I updated it. =P04:44
Tallia1Kubuntugrrr04:44
Tallia1Kubuntui'd like too04:44
ThedekYeah, I gave VMware 512 of memory and it seemed happy.04:44
Tallia1Kubuntui see04:45
Tallia1Kubuntulet me make some test04:45
Tallia1Kubuntus04:45
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ThedekYou can try it just by changing memsize = "512" in your vmx file.04:46
Tallia1Kubuntuok started04:46
Thedekor to whatever you want to let it have.04:46
Tallia1Kubuntui have only 51204:46
Tallia1Kubuntu:( i can't do that04:46
ThedekAhh, gotcha.04:46
Tallia1Kubuntubut it's a new thing04:47
Tallia1Kubuntuit used to run in a good way till few months ago04:47
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Tallia1Kubuntumhhh04:47
Tallia1Kubuntui think the kernel 386 -> 686 upgrade of the last week have been good accepted by vmware04:48
Tallia1Kubuntuit seems it is working faster04:48
ThedekCool =)04:49
Tallia1Kubuntuwow04:50
Tallia1Kubuntuthis is fast04:50
Tallia1Kubuntuand runs perfectly with 179MB04:50
Tallia1Kubuntuof memory with vmware04:50
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Tallia1KubuntuThedek: aha04:52
Tallia1Kubuntumy vmware windows04:52
Tallia1Kubuntuis using only 77MB04:52
Tallia1Kubuntuin windows task at least is says that04:52
Tallia1Kubuntui never saw windows requiring less than 120.. i dunno why :)04:52
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torzhey could you guys help me with quota. I want to set the capacity of a specific directory to 100MB.04:59
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elzoona...05:10
elzoonaHay alguien?05:10
elzoonaAnybody?05:10
frank23yeah05:11
elzoonaHello05:11
elzoona:-).05:11
elzoonaIm testing Konversation.05:11
me2winhowdy05:12
elzoona?05:12
me2win?05:13
elzoonaWhat means " howdy "?05:13
me2winquieres chingasos? :D05:13
elzoona:-).05:14
elzoonaNo se que es, pero no por las dudas...:-).05:14
me2winjaja05:14
frank23!es05:14
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:14
elzoonaTheres nobody at kubuntu-es...05:15
me2win"Howdy" es una palabra que significa "Hola" en ingles. Es una frase de Tejanos.05:15
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frank23Tejanos = Texan?05:17
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me2winfrank23, yeah05:17
elzoonaAh, gracias.05:17
me2winof course its a phrase for all of the US kind of05:17
me2winbut, the stereotype is texan05:17
frank23yeah05:17
elzoonaoK.05:18
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me2winelzoona, hay alguien en #ubuntu-es05:18
me2winpero no hablan mucho05:18
elzoonaIgual esta bien, yo queria alguien asi como para charla un rato :-).05:18
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elzoonaChe...Por si o por no...Es un kilombo hacer un upgrade a KDE 3.5?05:20
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bimberi_!kde3.5.105:24
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".05:24
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HkS-3207helo06:25
HkS-3207i dont know how to set up the resolution in kubuntu ppc on an apple iBook06:26
HkS-3207only available is 860xhelo ?06:26
HkS-3207loll my bad06:26
HkS-3207anybody here ?06:26
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HkS-3207anybado ?06:26
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HkS-3207anybody ?06:27
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KyralNight all06:29
HkS-3207night...06:29
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frank23!fixres06:30
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:30
frank23I don't know anything about ppc so I hope this helps ;)06:30
HkS-3207thanks frank2306:30
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robotgeekHkS-3207: is it a g3?06:52
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HkS-3207iBook06:53
HkS-3207the wiki already helped me tho, but thanks for your interest06:53
robotgeekHkS-3207: cool. as long as it works, we don't have a problem06:54
HkS-3207thaks :)06:54
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HkS-3207mm06:57
HkS-3207how do i set-up my netword card ?06:57
HkS-3207on an apple iBook06:57
HkS-3207running kubuntu....06:57
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robotgeekHkS-3207: what wireless card?06:58
HkS-3207none, NIS06:58
HkS-3207is there a way it could kind of auto-detect it or something like that06:58
robotgeekHkS-3207: lspci -v06:59
HkS-3207should i do that with sudo ?06:59
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robotgeekHkS-3207: no need07:00
frank23HkS-3207: no. when you dont know if a command needs sudo, try without sudo. It will tell you if it needs more priviledges07:00
HkS-3207mm ok let me try07:00
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HkS-3207robotgeek, could it be Host bridge ?07:06
robotgeekHkS-3207: nope07:06
HkS-3207o wow i dont find it :x07:06
HkS-3207lol07:07
robotgeekHkS-3207: si there someway you can paste it in the pastebin. i have an ibook too, so we can compare07:07
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HkS-3207robotgeek, i could write it ?07:07
HkS-3207let me save it on a file first wait07:07
robotgeekHkS-3207: well no, i will post mine07:07
HkS-3207oh ok, thanks07:07
robotgeekHkS-3207: is it old or new? if new, try "lspci | grep broadcom"07:08
HkS-3207200207:08
HkS-3207nothing comes up07:08
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robotgeekHkS-3207: do you know if you have an airport extreme card :)07:09
HkS-3207i have no clue07:09
HkS-3207the computer is from a friend of mine who wanted to throw it away cuz he messed up the system07:09
HkS-3207so i took it and now im trying to fix it for personal use07:10
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HkS-3207it does have the port for the network integrades ( DHCP is port is available )07:10
HkS-3207but it wont show any devices corresponding to network07:10
robotgeekHkS-3207: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9847 is mine07:10
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HkS-3207let me check07:11
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HkS-3207aw shit i forgot i took off firefox to upgrade it and i forgot to do the upgrade h/o07:13
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HkS-3207robotgeek,  im missing the network controller07:18
robotgeekHkS-3207: hmm, maybe you can buy one of those usb sticks07:18
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HkS-3207robotgeek,  what do u mean ?07:20
robotgeekHkS-3207:oh, you mean you don't even have a ethernet in there?07:20
C-O-L-TSomebody can help to me? How can I send messages on irc, I mean to everybody on  a server. A kind of flood07:21
robotgeekC-O-L-T: hmm, i am not sure why you would want to do that :)07:21
Kamping_Kaiserlol07:21
HkS-3207robotgeek,  i do got an ethernet port07:21
HobbseeC-O-L-T: exactly why would you want to do such a thing?07:21
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HkS-3207but obviously the controller ain't working07:21
robotgeekHkS-3207: hmm, try ifconfig07:22
HkS-3207is there any other alternative ?07:22
HkS-3207i tried07:22
HkS-3207it worked fine the mother f****07:22
HkS-3207:D07:22
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C-O-L-THobbsee: we have a channel in our city, so a city channel, just to spread linux :))07:22
HkS-3207but still when i do lspci | grep Eth nothing would come up07:22
HobbseeHkS-3207: case sensitive, i think07:22
Hobbseeusually it comes up as eth07:22
robotgeekHkS-3207: try ifconfig07:22
C-O-L-THobbsee: you know kind of advertisement for kubuntu / ubuntu, linux in generally07:23
C-O-L-THobbsee: people here really don't know much about it07:23
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HkS-3207Hobbsee,  didnt worked neither07:23
HkS-3207robotgeek,  it worked...07:23
HkS-3207let me unplug this cable07:23
C-O-L-THobbsee: yes it is07:23
HkS-3207and try some troubleshooting with it connected07:23
HkS-3207ill be back07:23
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C-O-L-THobbsee: no one appreciates spam but if you get one you have to look at it07:24
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Hobbseenot necessarily - i dont look at all my spam, in my email.  IRC can be different though07:25
HobbseeC-O-L-T: if you really insist upon doing it, you'll probably need to ask google how to do it...07:25
Hobbseei dont know the answer, myself07:25
C-O-L-THobbsee: I am asking google right now :)))07:25
robotgeekC-O-L-T: be sure not to do it on freenode, cause you'll probably never come back :)07:26
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C-O-L-Trobotgeek: they can not recognize me, I have a got a cool program, hides your ip, and it is a bot :D07:28
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HobbseeC-O-L-T: i warn you, if you do this on freenode, they will make SURE that you get klined, or eqivalent07:29
HkS3207o wow07:29
HkS3207i definetly got no network on that laptop07:29
frank23how do I run the new user wizard in kde again? I want to change the shortcut profile07:29
HkS3207is there some usb network adapter or something like that ?07:29
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C-O-L-THobbsee: anyway it is not freenode, it is undernet07:30
robotgeekHkS-3207: what did your friend do? insert the power jack in ethernet port07:30
HkS3207looks like it07:30
HobbseeC-O-L-T: you're choice - but they'll probably ban you from there too07:30
HkS3207is there a way to do an alternate solution tho ?07:30
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I get a lot of stupid things from others through freenode, and t is spam07:31
Hobbseewhat, from lilo?  or others?07:31
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Hobbseeif it's from others, then that's a singular message, not to entire freenode07:31
Hobbseeand, you can put others onto ignore, if you really want to07:33
HkS3207do anybody knows if there is some USB NIC Card ?07:33
C-O-L-THobbsee: is it from users like klhgkdjhgd07:33
C-O-L-THobbsee: that is not a real user07:33
HkS3207How i love ebay  :D07:34
HkS3207http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-10-100-Ethernet-network-LAN-NIC-Adapter-to-RJ45_W0QQitemZ5874137370QQcategoryZ11182QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem07:34
sampanspam on freenode?  i think i got one spam msg joining #ubuntu about 2 months ago -- never had a single other spam msg here07:34
HobbseeC-O-L-T: so you intend to exacerbate the problem, rather than doing something useful about it.  hmmm.07:35
Hobbseesampan: and some from lilo about the exploit, yeah07:35
sampanundernet is a different stories -- there are secret bot channels there, with literally hundreds of zombies joining and parting -- very weird07:35
Kamping_KaiserC-O-L-T: register your nic then07:35
C-O-L-TKamping_Kaiser: I am registered07:35
Hobbseenot here, you're not07:36
Hobbseenot according to your details07:36
Kamping_Kaiseri just checked ;)07:36
sampanhobbsee  ahhhh, i guess i don't consider useful server-info "spam" -- they have those on undernet too (notices about user classes, etc.)07:36
Hobbseesampan: true - i was meaning notices in general, but yeah :)07:36
Hobbseeyou'r eright07:36
Hobbseeand my brain is semi-fried07:36
HkS3207lol07:36
HkS3207how come my nick wont die07:36
HkS3207:x07:36
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Hobbseehehe thanks07:37
sampannp :P07:37
HkS3207what time is it :x07:37
me2winHobbsee, I got unbant! :D07:37
HkS3207ooooooooooh crap07:37
HkS3207i gotta go to sleep07:37
Hobbseeme2win: yay!07:37
HkS3207i got CAPT test tomorrow :x07:37
sampanhks3207  what time it is depends on where you are...07:37
HkS3207EST07:38
HkS320701:3107:38
HkS3207a.m.07:38
robotgeek!enter07:38
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:38
HkS3207mad late, and i gotta wake up at 6:30 tomorrow cuz i gotta try this crap in school to see how it goes with the wireless signal07:38
HkS3207ill be back later Outz!07:38
HkS3207Peace!!07:38
sampan;)  if you use my clock (PST, it's only 10:36), then you won't have to go to sleep yet07:38
HkS3207thx for everything :)07:38
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate07:38
sampanlater07:38
HkS3207night07:38
Kamping_Kaisersampan: and EST here is about 17:4007:39
Kamping_Kaiserhm. not sampan, HkS320707:39
sampanlol -- yeah, even the E is dependent on which continent one is on -- so much relativity!  :D07:40
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Kamping_Kaiser:)07:40
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GullyFoyleoh god ther's so much blinking text and cr** on dalnet and efnet and those other lamenets07:41
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I give up, it is harder than I thought. I can get an easy to use tool and anyway I can not get any useful program neither for linux nor for windows. In google I get just anti-spam programs, I tried in  a lot of ways to search for it but nothing useful07:57
Hobbseeah ok07:57
C-O-L-THobbsee: Next time when somebody spams I write back, hopefully he or she will write back to me07:58
Hobbseetrue07:58
Kamping_KaiserC-O-L-T: remember it's a notice, so it may not 'just reply'07:59
C-O-L-TKamping_Kaiser: probably you are right07:59
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fatejudgerwhat is up with ALSA and not being able to accept multiple sound streams?08:07
fatejudgerit's broken in Dapper08:08
fatejudgerit worked a week ago08:08
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HobbseeLeeJunFan: ping08:23
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fatejudgerHobbsee08:23
Hobbseehey fatejudger08:23
fatejudgercan you run multiple sound streams in the latest Dapper?08:23
fatejudgerI think they broke it08:23
fatejudgerI tried filing a bug08:23
fatejudgerno response08:24
Hobbseebug #?08:24
fatejudgerdamn08:24
fatejudgerI'm not sure I recorded that08:24
fatejudgerHobbsee: it's under my username, fatejudger08:26
fatejudgerHobbsee: if you can search by username08:26
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Tallia1Kubuntuuhee.. gmail doesn't allow HTML08:29
fatejudgerhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/3373608:29
Tallia1Kubuntui did a fancy signature and now i can't use it08:29
fatejudgerHobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/3373608:29
fatejudgerTallia1Kubuntu: are you sure?08:30
fatejudgerTallia1Kubuntu: it should08:30
Tallia1Kubuntuyes08:30
fatejudgerTallia1Kubuntu: seems weird for it not to08:30
Tallia1Kubuntui just tried08:30
Tallia1Kubuntu:(08:30
Hobbseefatejudger: how to reproduce?  play something in amarok, and use sounds from knotify at the same time?08:31
fatejudgerHobbsee: yeah08:32
fatejudgerHobbsee: make sure amarok is using ALSA08:32
fatejudgerHobbsee: whether it be Gstreamer + ALSA or Xine + ALSA08:32
Hobbseeyep, gotcha08:32
Hobbseefatejudger: both are playing at the same time - sounds horrible though08:33
fatejudgerHobbsee: weird08:33
Hobbseevery08:33
fatejudgerHobbsee: you don't even need KDE to reproduce the bug08:33
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fatejudgerHobbsee: just try using ALSA in two different apps08:33
fatejudgerHobbsee: it's weird08:34
Hobbseefatejudger: done by playing an mp3 with amarok, using xine engine with alsa, and "test sound" in system settings08:34
fatejudgerHobbsee: try playing an mp3 in amarok and an mp3 in kaffeine or something08:34
Hobbseeok08:34
Hobbseefatejudger: eww!08:35
fatejudgerHobbsee: funny how I can't even initialize the sound driver but you can at least play it08:35
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fatejudgerHobbsee: my first reaction was that dmix was broken in ALSA08:35
fatejudgerHobbsee: I don't know if that could be the cause now that I know you can play two streams08:36
Hobbseegosh it sounds bad lol!08:36
fatejudgerlol, yeah08:36
eob84hi, I am trying to get my /usr and /home directory on the same partition and I really don't know how to do this08:36
fatejudgerI can get around the problem by disabling sound in KDE08:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: or by playing songs with ARTS08:36
Hobbseefatejudger: very weird.  have you tried with a new user?08:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: but arts is horrible08:37
Hobbseetrue08:37
fatejudgerHobbsee: no, I haven't actually08:37
fatejudgerHobbsee: would that really make a difference though?08:37
fatejudgerthis isn't something that's KDE configurable08:37
Hobbseefatejudger: worht a try - there was something in my profile that would stop my wireless card from working when logging into kde - got no idea what it was, but a new user didnt have that problem at all08:37
fatejudgerespecially since we've removed KDE from the equation08:37
Hobbseeyeah, well i didnt think my network was either!08:38
fatejudgeryeah, but that was a KDE problem08:38
fatejudgerI guess I can try08:38
Hobbseesomehow, yeah08:38
fatejudgeradm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video08:39
fatejudgerok, brb08:39
eob84anyone know how I can get the usr directory and the home directory on their own partition?08:40
Tallia1Kubuntuhey?08:40
eob84hi08:40
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i get a KDE kicker style similar to this?08:41
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/bunny5qy.png08:41
_mindspineob84 You want to install or did you already?08:43
eob84I did allready08:44
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i get a KDE kicker style similar to this?08:45
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/bunny5qy.png08:45
Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: do you know how?08:45
_mindspinthe easyest way is to to it at installation08:45
eob84tell me how and I will re-install08:45
_mindspinyou have space left on your harddisk?08:46
eob84well I don't want to seperate partitions for each08:46
eob84I wan't each folder to be on the same partition08:46
_mindspinduring installation you will be asked wther you want to partition the harddisk08:46
_mindspinand nothing else?08:46
eob84yea08:46
Hobbseehmmm what?08:46
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eob84just /usr /home08:46
eob84it doesn't seem possible08:47
_mindspinafaik this is not possible08:47
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HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: that's really simple, IIRC08:47
fatejudgerHobbsee: it's a sad day for Dapper...08:47
eob84I guess I will just have to ln home to /usr/home08:47
_mindspinnope08:47
fatejudgerHobbsee: when one cannot enjoy the sounds of KDE and his music08:48
eob84that won't work either?08:48
Hobbseefatejudger: even with a new user?08:48
fatejudgerHobbsee: even with a new user08:48
_mindspinit would but  it has nothing to do with partitions08:48
fatejudgerHobbsee: I'm guessing you have some... connections?08:48
eob84I know08:48
Hobbseefatejudger: in regards to what?08:48
fatejudgerHobbsee: perhaps you could speak to someone?08:48
eob84but it was the only solution I could find08:48
Hobbseecore kde devs?08:48
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fatejudgerHobbsee: to get the bug, shall we say, expedited?08:49
eob84I was just asking in case someone knew something I didn't08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: lol08:49
_mindspinwhy do you want this behaviour?08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: I'm just messing with you08:49
Hobbsee:P08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: but yeah, if you could ask someone about it08:49
Hobbseefatejudger: not sure who's the best person to ask - but a lot of them would be asleep08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: yeah08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: I didn't mean now08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: whenever you get a chance08:49
fatejudgerHobbsee: just jot down a note or something, because obviously nobody has read my bug08:50
fatejudgerHobbsee: or they've disregarded it08:50
Hobbseefatejudger: who'd you assign it to?08:50
fatejudgerHobbsee: I can't assign bugs to anyone08:50
fatejudgerHobbsee: I just report them08:50
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: it's either another program, found on kde look, or a setting in configure panel, with the size08:51
Hobbseei couldnt exactly reproduce it, but didnt try terribly hard08:51
Hobbseemaybe with the icon size as well, set in system settings08:51
Hobbseefatejudger: why not?  anyone can assign anything anywhere08:52
fatejudgerHobbsee: I figured I'd let the high-ups take care of that08:52
fatejudger*higher-ups08:52
fatejudgerHobbsee: anyway, I really have to go to bed08:52
Hobbseeok08:52
fatejudgerHobbsee: thanks for your help though08:52
Hobbseeno problems08:52
fatejudgercya08:52
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Tallia1Kubuntuis there a KDE-look RSS Feed?08:55
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: see about the middle of the page, left hand side08:57
Hobbseeunder RDF feeds08:57
Hobbseei'm assuming they work the same way08:57
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C-O-L-THobbsee: can I have a dock like in mac os/08:59
C-O-L-T?08:59
C-O-L-THobbsee: sorry for disturbing again08:59
HobbseeC-O-L-T: kde-look.org - search for osx08:59
Hobbseei think it may be called baghera, but i'm not sure on that one08:59
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Tallia1Kubuntuwth is kde-files?09:00
C-O-L-THobbsee: thanks09:00
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Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: what's kde-files?09:05
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a RSS for kubuntu too?09:05
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: got no idea - does it show anything obvious?09:05
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Hobbseeyes, it's at http://www.kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss09:06
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: easiest way to see what kde-files.org looks like - go check it out09:08
Hobbseelooks pretty cool09:09
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karatIs there some way to see what files ar einstalled by a given package09:09
Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: the fact is that in gmail i can add a feed only searching and selecting a result, isn't it?09:09
Hobbseekarat: apt-cache show packagename09:12
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: got no idea - i dont use gmail for rss feeds09:12
Tallia1Kubuntui don't know what they are really09:13
Tallia1Kubuntuthey simply appeared on the top of my gmail :)09:14
Hobbseeah ok09:15
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karatHobbsee|away: thanks09:16
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gamefaceis there anyway to manual edit my kde system settins to turn my network on i can download the kde update so i can save my changes made in system settings?09:37
mikehi. i have a problem with kontact and i was wondering if someone could help me out. basically i was editing the filters and kontact crashed on me and could not start back again09:37
mikeit looks like the kmail settings got corrupted somehow09:37
mikei've tried removing the package and the settings in my ~/.kde/shared....09:37
mikethen i've tried reinstalling the package again but the problem did not go away09:38
gamefaceanyone else had the su kde system admin error?09:39
_mindspinyou should use kdesu09:40
mikewhat is kdesu?09:40
_mindspincommand kdesu programname09:40
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gamefaceeven when i run kdesu09:41
mikeis that the same as sudo?09:41
gamefacemy sytem settings wont save09:41
_mindspingameface: which kde do you have installed?09:41
gamefaceso i turn on my network09:41
mikeoh nm09:41
gamefaceit doesnt turn on09:41
gamefacewhich eva one came with kubuntu 5.1009:41
gamefacei cant upgrade09:41
_mindspinwhy?09:41
gamefacecuz i ant turn on my wireless network card09:41
_mindspinic09:41
gamefaceso is tehr a manual way to edit it by09:42
gamefacetext editor09:42
mikehaha i can help you with wire less network09:42
mikedo you have drivers for the card?09:42
gamefacenot on the computer i need to get on09:42
_mindspinkdesu kate09:42
mikewhat kind of card is it?09:42
gamefacepcmcia belkin09:43
robotgeekgameface: do you know what chipset?09:43
C-O-L-THow to have dock like in apple os X09:43
C-O-L-T?09:43
mikedoes it have linux driver? if not you'll have to use ndiswrapper09:43
gamefaceyeah09:43
gamefaceit worked before09:44
mike(which is a standard package available from the ubuntu cd)09:44
gamefacei had to reintall09:44
_mindspin"/etc/networking/interfaces"09:44
gamefacesee my network is off09:44
gamefacei cant enable it09:44
gamefacewhen i turn the card on09:44
gamefaceit goes right back off09:44
robotgeekgameface, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:44
_mindspinon commandline "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"09:44
mikeok then. i think there may be a problem with wireless configuration in kubuntu in general. did you try something like...09:45
_mindspinbut I guess check the wireless issue first09:45
mikesudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'HomeRouter' mode Managed key restricted F7D134ED4AEADD3C94B58EEB86 commit09:46
_mindspinhehe09:46
mike(that's not my key)09:46
mikeafter that type09:46
mikesudo dhclient wlan009:46
gamefacethanx it stayed09:47
gamefaceno it didnt09:47
gamefaceshit09:47
gamefacelet me try that next command09:47
_mindspinisnt that F7.... the mac adresss?09:48
mikeno that's WEP key09:48
_mindspinic09:48
_mindspinI have no wireless ..09:48
mikeif your wireless network is not encrypted just remove "key restricted F7...86"09:49
_mindspin"peoples net"09:49
mikei actually have to run those commands from a small script every time i log on09:49
mikelol something like that. or a wireless coffee shop09:50
gamefacegot ra0 instead of wlan09:50
mikera0? wtf is that?09:50
gamefacewireless09:50
miketype ifconfig09:50
mikeok09:51
gamefacedoes show up09:51
gamefacebut when i got to network it does09:51
gamefacen i turn it on before worked fine had to reinstall due to some other errors09:51
gamefaceits there a way i can enable it09:51
robotgeekgameface: cool, take a look at another howto to get this to work09:51
mikeifconfig is going to show you general interface settings regardless of whether your wireless is configured or not09:51
gamefacefromthe terminal09:51
mikeok do something like09:52
gamefaceshows when u put ifconfig ra009:52
mike1. sudo ifdown ra009:52
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robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT250009:52
mike2. sudo ifup ra009:52
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gamefacethose arent enabled09:53
gamefacelike none of my changes save09:53
gamefacewhen i go to system setting n turn it on09:53
mikewhat do you mean "aren't enabled"?09:53
gamefaceunder systemsettings09:53
gamefacewell maybe those should turn em on09:53
gamefacetold me inerfae ra0 not configured09:54
gamefaceinterface*09:54
mikeoh. i could never get my wireless settings to save in the system settings but i can still turn them on from the terminal09:54
mikewhen did it tell you that? on ifup?09:55
gamefaceon up it says unknnown interface09:56
gamefacera=ra009:56
mikeok... let me ask you a stupid quetion: did you plug in the card before booting ubuntu?09:57
gamefaceyeah09:57
mikeok09:57
gamefaceive use it before on kubuntu so i know it will work i think its more cuz the settings arent saving09:57
gamefacewhen i turn on my network09:57
gamefacetaht wuz prolbem last time09:57
gamefaceit still says not running09:58
gamefacewhen i check under network09:58
gamefacelet me check dis link09:58
gamefacethat robogeek09:58
gamefaceprovided me wih09:58
gamefacesee if that helps09:58
gamefacebrb09:58
mikeyeah try ifconfig ra0 up and then ifup and then ifdown09:59
mikethat's what the article says09:59
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gamefacethanx10:02
gamefacei think that worked10:02
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judgenhowdy10:04
gamefaceokay anyway i can manual set my inet address10:05
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mikekool10:08
mikefor address just do dhclient or if you want static ifconfig would do. good luck.10:08
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ubuntudoes anybody boot kubuntu with lilo?10:15
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verdenhi10:27
faroushi10:27
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verdeni've just installed Dapper10:28
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verdenis anyone here running dapper?10:29
_mindspin!dapper10:29
ubotu[dapper]  the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates10:29
gamefaceis there anyway i can dowanload the kubuntu desktop upgrade on another compuer n put on disc n put them on another?10:31
gamefacei mean on a win xp system10:31
gamefacen then install upgrade from dis10:31
gamefacedisc*10:31
_mindspinyou depend on wireless ?10:32
_mindspinno networkcard at hand?10:32
gamefaceyEAH10:32
gamefaceeverything is wireless10:32
_mindspinyou could try to get the deb files10:33
_mindspinand install it by hand10:33
_mindspinor you could try to run knoppix live cd (maybe wireless will work) and download it to /home10:34
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_mindspinbtw. what update are you talking about?10:35
_mindspinkde?10:35
gamefaceyeh i tried that but i think i got an idea10:37
gamefacebrb10:37
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gamefaceyeah10:44
gamefacekde upgrade heard it fixes some of my problems10:44
gamefacei think ill just downloa the ndiswrapper10:45
gamefacen install the drivers10:45
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judgenHow do i force my screen to use 75hz?11:12
Hobbseejudgen: the option in system settings, display?11:14
judgenHobbsee:  you mean kcontrol?11:14
Hobbseejudgen: either, yeah11:15
Hobbseeboth work11:15
judgen60hz max in the prefs11:15
judgeni can also select 43 hz =P11:15
Hobbseei wonder if you have to set it in xorg.conf, or using !xcfg11:16
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judgen        Option          "DPMS"11:18
judgen        HorizSync       30-6011:18
judgen        VertRefresh     50-7511:18
Kingpombayay kubuntu torrent at 90%11:18
judgenKingpomba: Have you not gotten further still?11:18
KingpombaFactoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...11:18
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KingpombaNo Factoid Match11:18
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judgenHobbsee:  i changed horiz to 31,63 and vert to 56-7511:21
Hobbseeok, yep11:21
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Tonio_hi !11:42
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visik7repo for avidemux ?11:46
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judgenhow do i get the buttons of my remote wonder to work in ubuntu, it works by default on geexbox11:53
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vespahi all...11:55
vespai need help11:55
HymnToLife!helpme11:56
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:56
vespai want using firefox latest version, how to install in kubuntu?11:57
HymnToLife!tell vespa about ff1.511:57
judgenI want to change the default font of wx how do i do this?11:57
vespathanks for ur answer...11:57
HymnToLifeyou're wlcome11:58
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vespa!tell me about libstdc++512:03
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Kingpomba!burn12:07
ubotuKingpomba: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:07
KingpombaFactoid 'My cat's name' Created12:07
HymnToLifelmao12:08
Kingpomba:/12:08
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Kingpombastupid bot12:09
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ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kingpomba12:09
Kingpomba....:/12:09
Kingpomba!areyousmokingsomethingfunnysilicionchip?12:09
ubotuKingpomba: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:09
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Hobbsee!botabuse12:09
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.12:09
KingpombaNo Factoid Match12:10
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat are you trying to do Kingpomba?12:10
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: Kingpomba seems to be wanting to abuse the bot12:10
HymnToLifeKamping_Kaiser> I take it he's ripping off all ubotu's factoids12:10
HymnToLifethis is BAD12:10
Kingpomba... i asked it about burning .... he told me about a cat named mittens12:11
HymnToLifeshould we do some !ops ?12:11
Kamping_Kaiserno12:11
HobbseeHymnToLife: it'd be !kops12:11
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Kamping_KaiserKingpomba: what about burning?12:11
KingpombaFactoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...12:11
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Kamping_Kaiseri have to admit, an entry bout mittens...12:12
HobbseeHymnToLife: besides, i'm around, and can ban/kick/whatever12:12
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Kingpombai just typed Exclamation mark burn and it told me about a cat12:12
HobbseeKingpomba: it said it didnt know12:12
KingpombaFactoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...12:13
HobbseeKingpomba: what did you want to burn?12:13
Hobbseek3b's a good burner12:13
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HymnToLifejust in a funnier way12:13
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KingpombaKubuntu DVD iso12:13
HymnToLifeon Windows ?12:13
Kingpombahuh i have a bot now?12:13
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Kingpombayeah12:14
Kingpombanot sure where i should burn it as ISO or Boot disc in nero12:14
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Hobbseeburn it as in iso, i think12:14
HymnToLifejust the iso12:14
Kingpombacause i've had trouble before with other distros discs not working in bios12:15
jackphildapper in vmware, no X. HELP!12:15
Kingpomba... even though i set the boot order to CD > Hard drive12:15
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Kamping_Kaiserjackphil: what dapper? fight 4?12:15
Kamping_Kaiser*flight12:15
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Hobbseejackphil: startx?12:15
Kamping_Kaiserhm. actualy... fight would be right ;)12:15
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jackphilKamping_Kaiser: Yes, flight 412:15
Kamping_Kaiserdo you get a black screen with "Login" or do you get a blue screen with X errors on it?12:16
jackphilHobbsee: failed with info like "no vmware module"12:17
Hobbseehmmm12:17
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Hobbseei dont know, sorry12:17
jackphilblack screen with "Login"12:17
Kamping_Kaiserjackphil: have you logged in?12:18
Kamping_Kaiserif not do12:18
jackphili've logged in. it's OK, but cant startx12:18
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Kamping_Kaiserjackphil: run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`12:20
Kamping_Kaiserbrb12:20
jackphilKamping: i'll try it later, thx12:21
Kamping_Kaiserlol ok12:22
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jackphilcan flight 4 install from harddisk?12:28
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vijayhi everyone, i installed xine-ui, but i think there is a buffer problem, can any one help me in this issue??12:29
Kamping_Kaiserjackphil: don't think so12:32
Kamping_Kaiservijay: ask, but i cant promise - i don't use xine12:33
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kameronwhat's that gksudo like tool called for kde?12:33
Hobbseekameron: kdesu12:34
kameronword Hobbsee12:34
Hobbseehmm?12:35
kameronthank you is all i meant12:37
vijayKamping_Kaiser: I installed mplayer also, but it is not displaying any movie in full screen12:37
Hobbseeah :)12:38
Kamping_Kaiservijay: mplayer? change the video mode to x11 IIRC12:38
Kamping_Kaiserbbl I'm afraid.12:38
vijayKamping_Kaiser: and kaffine is displaying an error message that resource is busy12:39
Kamping_Kaisersound?12:39
vijayKamping_Kaiser: ok i'll change12:39
kameronvijay, or try xv i think12:39
vijayKamping_Kaiser: no sound and nothing in kaffine player12:39
Kamping_Kaiseras i said, bll. sorry :/12:39
vijaykameron:"xv" is a player??12:40
kameronvijay, no, driver for mplayer12:40
vijaykameron:ok12:41
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vijaykameron:libxv1 is already installed!!12:42
kameroncool?12:42
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vijayKamping_Kaiser: still it is playing in small size, in full screen mode12:51
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dipnlikhi all. my kubuntu machine is losing internet connection after about one minute. It is connected to a winxp machine. I use sudo dhclient, it reconnects, then disconnects again. Networking is fine. any ideas?12:54
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shivPLz comment if anybody knows this. I am stuck. I get this error when i start bibus: (python:8689): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 103012:58
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lubohello, can anybody please tell me how can I download source code of my current kernel using apt tool?01:18
spiritzlubo : u should have a look at package kernel-headers01:19
lubohi spiritz: currently i'm running on 2.6.15-17-68601:21
luboand you are tolking about this?: linux-headers-2.6.15-17-68601:21
spiritzlubo : what version of "linux-kernel-headers"   is available in the repo?01:21
spiritzI am unable to query my apt-get right now but it looks like u found the right package01:22
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lubolinux-headers-2.6.15-17-686 this is the one you are tallking about?01:22
spiritzyes01:22
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luboso I need to download this file?01:23
spiritzyou need to install this package01:23
spiritzbtw why do you need your kernel sources?01:23
lubowhant to compile it my self01:24
lubowhy? :-)01:24
spiritzok then you should go ahead and install that package01:24
luboNeed to get 7695kB of archives.01:25
luboafter unpacking 79.0MB01:25
lubo:-)01:25
spiritz:)01:25
lubothanks spiritz !!!01:26
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spiritzyou r welcome; good luck compiling ur kernel01:26
luboI have done that before but I alway download kernel from kernel.org :-))01:27
spiritzwhy the default ubuntu kernel doesn't fit ur needs?01:28
visik7anyone with dapper?01:29
_mindspin!dapper01:29
ubotuI guess dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates01:29
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lubono this is going to be excercise for my study.. i'm about to add ned system call to kernel:-))01:29
mth`MAWhi01:29
luboned -> new :-)01:29
spiritzlubo : ok :)01:30
mth`MAWI do have a little Prob01:30
mth`MAWlem01:30
mth`MAWI have a digikam, an usb-.Stick, and usb hd etc...01:30
lubospiritz is there a way to easy migrate from grub to lilo?01:30
spiritzlubo : no clue01:30
mth`MAWThe thing is, it depens how I plug this things into my computer, they get there mountpoints.01:31
mth`MAWThat is bad for example for digikam or inkscape, if they take a look at mountpoint that may be not exists01:31
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mth`MAWSo is it soemhow possible to bind the external usb-device to a mount point?01:32
luboBTW when you asked me if the current kernel does not fit my need the answer is : NO01:32
mth`MAWAnybody understood what I ment? (I do not think so... :))01:32
lubostill have a problem with soud card...01:32
luboMultimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller01:33
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lubosystem recognize it properly however no sound01:33
mth`MAWkde?01:34
mth`MAWgnome?01:34
spiritzlubo : command such as echo "lkjmlkjmlkjmlkjm" > /dev/dsp won't make any noise?01:34
lubospiritz: after first installation sound was ok... but after couple apt-get upgrade I have a problem no soud at all:-))01:35
lubobash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy01:35
spiritzlubo : sudo lsof /dev/dsp01:35
lubolsof /dev/dsp  ==> no output  !!01:36
luboany ideas? :-)01:37
visik7which program stuck with oss only ?01:38
spiritzlubo : u should try to shutdown sound deamon then echo some text to ur sound card01:38
spiritzlubo : is arts running ? ps aux|grep arts01:38
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luboarts is running ==> and twice:-)01:39
lubolubo      4885  1.0  0.7  12048  6800 ?        SL   23:11   0:17 /usr/bin/artsd -F 128 -S 8192 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f01:40
spiritzlubo : kill it : pkill arts01:40
lubolubo      4890  0.0  0.1  10592  1644 ?        Ss   23:11   0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 128 -S 8192 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f01:40
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lubospiritz now it look better..01:41
lubolet me try it:-))01:41
spiritzlubo : echo "mlkjmlkj" > /dev/dsp still returns busy?01:41
lubo: its better I tried that already:-)) now xmms :-))01:42
spiritzlubo : the echo command should output some noise from ur speakers01:42
sebbarhey does anybody know if the cups problem (can't connect to local cups server) has been fixed by know?01:42
lubotop stuff man... all working now:-))01:42
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luboso happy;-))01:42
lubowhat was the problem?01:43
sebbarlots of users being unable to set up locally attached usb printers on kupuntu/ubuntu dapper01:43
spiritzLubo : I guess you did not configure properly your sound configuration01:43
mth`MAWsebbar: Please help me too :)01:43
_mindspin!dapper01:43
ubotuI heard dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates01:43
sebbaryeah I know, but a lot of people ore getting kinda pissed since the  bug is critical and it was out since like december or so, but none of the devs made a statement on the forums or anything01:44
sebbarthought I'd ask here as well01:45
luboI will do some changes and see... thanks a lot for help spiritz:-))01:45
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_mindspinsebbar: yo've read what ubotu said, its Developement Software01:46
DjDarkmanhi i want to buy an usb mouse ,will it be hard ,to use it in kubuntu/01:46
spiritzlubo: ur should get an "output-plugin" for xmms that enable arts support; btw why using xmms why u can use juke or amarok?01:46
DjDarkman?01:46
spiritzDjDarkman: no, not at all, just plug it01:46
DjDarkmanand X will just detect it and use it?01:47
spiritzyes01:47
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luboamarok did not play well...01:48
lubofrom some reasons:-))01:48
_headylubo: agree, amarok is shit01:48
_headykaffeine too01:49
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spiritzlubo : amarok has been awarded award for best player lately... I don't think a shit program deserve such a price.01:49
spiritzHeady_: what are u arguments regarding amarok being shitty?01:49
Heady_why ?? because after istall of kubuntu, it did not play mp301:50
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hatake_kakashiHeady_: thats got nothing to do with amaroK01:50
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Heady_i installed xmms, clicked play and everything went ok01:50
lubokoffeine also did not play well .. every 10 seconds it stops play for while and then continued:-)01:50
HymnToLifeamarok kicks ass :/01:50
hatake_kakashiHeady_: in RH8, there is no mp3 support for xmms, you had to either recompile the source or get the file somewhere else01:51
spiritzHeady_: maybe with a little research u could have made it work...; you're definately missing something ;)01:51
HymnToLifebest player ever though I miss some iTunes functionnality01:51
lubobut this problem can be easily related to my wrong soound card configuration:-))01:51
visik7lubo: dunno what fu***ng crap of settings u have kaffeine and amarok works almost perfectly form e01:51
Heady_btw, kubuntu in general really made me angry cause after install it couldnt play anything01:51
spiritzHeady_: assuming a software is shit because it was not working for u is very nasty towards the nice people  who have been working on it; instead u should report the bug;01:51
visik7Heady_: RTFM01:51
HymnToLifeHeady_> it could01:51
visik7Heady_: mp3 is patented01:52
Heady_including avi, mp3, mpg01:52
HymnToLifejust because you didn't enable it doesn't mean it cannnot be01:52
Heady_i installed vlc and everying is working fine01:52
visik7Heady_: are u here to flame ?01:52
Heady_damn, why should i do something extra to just play something01:53
spiritzHeady_: did u report bugs to amarok, or try at least for a few minutes to make it work out looking at google?01:53
Heady_visik7: no, im just saying what i think01:53
spiritzHeady_: I think your behavior is gay01:53
visik7aahah01:53
Heady_spiritz: i tried01:53
hatake_kakashiHeady_: you should be thankful that there is mp3 support around, its just not built-in. If you want to blame, don't go around putting blame on OS. Put the blame on RIAA/MPAA/etc01:54
spiritzHeady_: then I guess you suck; but please don't clam amarok is shit because you cannot make it work out01:54
HymnToLife+1,000,000 spiritz01:54
spiritzHeady_: instead you should ask nicely help in #amaork01:55
visik7spiritz: and I would add st***d fu****g as***le01:55
spiritzlol01:55
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hatake_kakashizomg! linux does not support writing to NTFS! therefore mount must suck! :p01:55
visik7hatake_kakashi: asd to be honest linux write ntfs from 2.6.1501:56
spiritzanyway linux sucks, there's not start button01:56
hatake_kakashivisik7: I was trying to point out where the blame should go to01:56
spiritzs/not/no01:56
visik7spiritz: :)01:56
visik7hatake_kakashi: just kiddingh01:56
HymnToLifespiritz> and besides linux is free01:56
HymnToLifehow can anything that is free be good ?01:56
spiritzHymnToLife: that must be the reason why it sucks so much01:57
spiritz:)01:57
hatake_kakashivisik7: heh01:57
HymnToLifelmao01:57
spiritzHymnToLife: people are unable to get money from it so there have no other choice but to give it out free ;)01:57
visik7linux has no cost so it must suck, how give software that works well for free ?01:57
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spiritzI think now we fully agree with you Heady_01:58
HymnToLifeI know why01:58
HymnToLifelinux people are just too dumb to add serial number protections01:58
HymnToLifethe kind no one ever cracks :D01:58
alleemth`MAW: define two or more directory browse entries one for mount point01:58
visik7HymnToLife: linux users doesn't know what astalavista is so they are not smart01:59
alleemth`MAW: before 0.8.1 we tried hard to get media:/ support into digikam, but failed :(01:59
Heady_spiritz: damn man, look, i absolutely new to linux, i wanted a user friendly distribution  so a friend gave me kubuntu, i installed it, wanted to play something and it wasnt working01:59
Heady_so how can somebody new to an os01:59
Heady_start fixing bugs from a fresh install ??01:59
HymnToLifeHeady_> Windows is very idiot-friendly I think02:00
HymnToLifeand everything works right out of the box02:00
spiritzHeady_: There's no problem in being a newbie, how ever I have a problem when u say amarok is shit; However I  am still pleased to help u out with ur amarok02:00
Heady_HymnToLife: i have to disagree02:00
HymnToLifeand this is NOT a bug02:00
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HymnToLiferead the wiki page about restricted formats before telling nonsense02:01
Heady_ok, so how to fix it ???02:01
hatake_kakashiHeady_: its not a bug just because they didn't include mp3 support by default. OS has the right to do that because they don't want to be threatened by authorities/patient holders02:01
HymnToLife!mp302:01
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped02:01
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:01
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Heady_btw, i visited ubuntuguide.org installed something what it saied but still nothing02:01
HymnToLife!ubuntuguide02:01
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead02:01
spiritzHeady_: have u been able to figure out whether it's a sound deamon or it is a codec problem? like are u able to play wav files for instance?02:02
HymnToLifespiritz> he said he can play them with VLC02:03
HymnToLifeso it's just codecs I guess02:03
hatake_kakashi!info w32codecs02:03
hatake_kakashi!info w32codec02:03
HymnToLife!tekll hatake_kakashi about w32codecs02:03
ubotuHymnToLife: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:03
spiritzHymnToLife: Ok but his vlc might be not using arts while amarok is stuck on trying to use arts; but your point is very good, he should look this way first02:03
HymnToLife!tell hatake_kakashi about w32codecs02:03
hatake_kakashiHymnToLife: heh thanks, I was trying to see if it would output it out from the repos. Maybe it still hasn't been added to the repos02:04
HymnToLifeit won't ever be in the repos02:04
HymnToLifeit's non free software02:05
hatake_kakashioh well, now I know :)02:05
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HymnToLifeno problem :)02:05
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HymnToLifeas long as you don't come saying xine is bullshit all over the place02:06
HymnToLifebecause it can't play WMVs :D02:06
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hatake_kakashiheh, different people = different tastes :) I somewhat like mplayer, but the CLI interface for that program will take awhile to get used to :)02:07
Heady_spiritz: damn amarok always freezes, it seems that i will stay with xmms, im used to winamp from windows, have lo leave, going to university, but i will come again02:08
spiritzHeady_: ok, see you around then02:08
HymnToLifehatake_kakashi> there's a GUI for mplayer02:08
hatake_kakashiHymnToLife: yeah gmplayer, etc. However if I can try and stick to the CLI as much as possible, I guess that'd be nice too :)02:09
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HymnToLifefor me it's VLC all the way though :p02:09
spiritzHeady_: you should have a look at the "engine" tab in amarok configuration, I think ur configuration is wrong there02:09
HymnToLifeyeah, good thing to dothe CLI is your best linux friend after frozen bubble02:09
visik7HymnToLife: do u use vlc ?02:09
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luboguys is there a chance that this card http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5874630425#ebayphotohosting will be supported by my dapper?02:09
HymnToLifevisik7> yes02:10
dipnlikhi all. my kubuntu machine is losing internet connection after about one minute. It is connected to a winxp machine. I use sudo dhclient, it reconnects, then disconnects again. Networking is fine. any ideas?02:10
visik7is gtk1 how can u set the font size of gtk1 apps ?02:10
Heady_spiritz: i tried every engine, btw, i updated and upgraded the whole system, including kernel02:10
visik7dipnlik: put dhclient in crond02:10
HymnToLifedipnlik> I'd think it's a misconfigurtion of your XP02:10
HymnToLifedo you use builtin ICS ?02:10
spiritzHeady_: is amarok crashing if u set engine to "no engine " ?:)02:11
dipnlikHymnToLife, yes02:11
HymnToLifehmmm02:11
HymnToLifealways worked like a charm for me02:11
dipnlikHymnToLife, worked fine here until we moved02:11
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HymnToLifelmao spiritz you're a nut :p02:12
spiritzdipnlik: why don't u set ur network card to fixed ip instead of dynamic one?02:12
Heady_spiritz: no02:12
cycus_zwisuswomen: all the best!!!02:12
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spiritzHeady_: then you have a sound deamon problem; is arts runnning on ur comp ? [ps aux|grep arts] ; is it able to play something ? [artsplay /home/me/somefile.mp3]  ; are u using arts in amarok ? if no, install the amarok-arts package.02:13
dipnlikvisik7, how do i do that? should i read man cron now or can this be done with one or two commands?02:13
visik7kcron02:13
spiritzdipnlik: using cron dhclient is not really a solution to ur problem ; u are having some issue here02:14
dipnlikspiritz, it really looked like a workaround anyway :)02:14
spiritzdipnlik: ture02:14
spiritztrue02:14
dipnlikspiritz, how can i set fixed ip?02:14
hatake_kakashiifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip02:15
_mindspinsudo ifc...02:15
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cycus_zwisusno women here??02:15
spiritzdipnlik: do what hatake_kakashi told u ; then you should add ur windows xp computer as gateway (if ur planning of sharing intenret acess with : sudo route add default gw IP.WINXP dev eth002:16
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hatake_kakashi_mindspin: yeah that's more like it, ta :) I'm too used to avoid saying sudo for this and that :)02:16
_mindspinyup02:16
spiritzdipnlik: and add ur windows xp ip and ur provide dns ip to /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver ip.ip.ip (for both winxp and provider)02:17
Heady_spiritz: installed, but still nothing02:17
Heady_could not even play wav files02:17
spiritzHeady_: u should provide me the result of each test I told u to do02:17
lubospiritz thanks: see you all !!! :-)02:17
Heady_spiritz: later, have to run02:17
spiritzHeady_: ok bye02:17
spiritzdipnlik: actually an easy way would  be to edit  ur network configuration file :)02:19
dipnlikspiritz, where is the network configuration file?02:20
_mindspin"/etc/network/interfaces"02:20
spiritzdipnlik: tell me whats ur windows xp ip and ur computer ip02:20
dipnlikspiritz: i did ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.100 up, ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.101 up02:22
spiritzwhy both eth0 and  eth1?02:22
dipnlikspiritz, then route add default gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth102:22
spiritztwo network cards?02:22
dipnlikspiritz, yes02:22
dipnlikin /etc/resolv.conf , added two lines02:23
dipnliknameserver 200.204.0.10 and nameserver 200.204.0.13902:23
dipnlikall with the needed sudos :)02:23
spiritzit should work02:23
spiritzyou should add nameserver ur.win.xp.ip02:24
spiritzdipnlik: for the network configuration file : http://pastebin.com/59069402:24
weedarAnyone using EVMS to mount ntfs partitions? :) I'm unable to pass the option "umask=0222" via evmsgui02:25
hatake_kakashidipnlik: if dhclient/dhclient3 overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf you can always set the file immutatable via chattr :D02:26
dipnlikhatake_kakashi, think that's exactly my problem!02:27
dipnlikwill take a look at chattr02:27
hatake_kakashidipnlik: oh coolies :)02:27
spiritzdipnlik: chattr +i file.test02:27
hatake_kakashidipnlik: though I must warn you that you will get error messages saying that the file cannot be edited at boot, etc02:28
hatake_kakashiand you need to be su to do that02:29
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dipnlikhatake_kakashi, sudo won't work?02:30
hatake_kakashidipnlik: sudo chattr +i foo ?02:30
dipnlikhatake_kakashi, yes02:31
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dipnlikyou made it sound like sudo chattr +i foo wouldn't work02:31
hatake_kakashidipnlik: sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf02:32
dipnlikspiritz, still the same situation, i will take a look at the pastebin link you sent me02:40
spiritzdipnlik: it should work out with what u've done so far; make sure there is no more dhclient running [sudo pkill dhclient] ;02:40
spiritzdipnlik: are u able to ping ur xp box?02:40
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dipnlikspiritz, will dhclient come back on reboot after this pkill?02:42
dipnlikspiritz, i can ping the xp machine just fine02:43
dipnlikspiritz, network is fine. in fact, i am using krdc to the xp machine right now :)02:43
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spiritzdipnlik: no it won't come back since u set /etc/network/interface to "static"02:44
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spiritzdipnlik: are u able to use dns service ? > doing nslookup google.com will returns google's ip?02:44
jaumeputa02:44
dipnlikspiritz, yes02:45
ph8hey guys, to switch from gnome to kde do i just do apt-get install kde-desktop and reboot?02:45
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dipnlikspiritz, nslookup worked fine, lets try navigating02:45
spiritzph8: no need to reboot02:45
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dipnlikspiritz, still no pinging outside nor navigating :S02:46
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ph8i'm just apt-get'ing kubuntu-desktop now, will i need to apt-get remove gnome-desktop?02:49
ph8or ubuntu-desktop i guess02:49
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dipnlikspiritz: hi again :)02:51
spiritzhi again02:51
spiritzis it working?02:51
dipnlikno :(02:52
dipnlikjust noticed something02:52
dipnliktried traceroute6 www.google.com and it said no route to host02:52
spiritzthere's a problem with ur gateway setting02:52
spiritzur should first make only one of ur network card work, then the other once it is working02:53
spiritzif I were u if would do ifdown for both and only ifup one02:53
dipnlikwill try it02:53
ccc_ph8: no, you don't need to remove anything. just log out, choose KDE as session and log in.02:54
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dipnlikspiritz, YAY! at least i got connected again02:59
dipnliklets see for how much time ._.02:59
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dipnlikspiritz, i put down eth0 and eth1, up eth0 again and now it is working. thank you thank you thank you!03:01
dipnlikspiritz, but im not using eth1 here. will it come up again on reboot and fsck me up again?03:02
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dipnlikwell, thank you all for the help, you guys rock :)03:13
dipnliki am happy again :)03:13
hatake_kakashihmm, anyone on a uniproc computer and have at least 2 SATA hard disks plugged in?03:14
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carstenHi. Are there backports of OpenOffice 2.0.1 or 2.0.2 for breezy?03:15
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dipnlikok, now i have this: there are two network cards here but one will not be used. i put it down with ifconfig but i'm not sure if it will stay down if i reboot my machine03:18
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hatake_kakashidipnlik: that needs to edit some file, I cannot remember which one :/03:20
hatake_kakashicarsten: nfi03:20
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ph8Hey guys, i just apt-got installed kubuntu-desktop and tried to logout and back in03:21
ph8didn't work (blank screen) so i rebooted03:21
ph8Now i get the kde login screen (after manually starting kdm, but i can probably fix that), but when i login i get my gnome metacity window manager (customised imagery)03:21
ph8then it looks like it's trying to start something (top and bottom bars keep appearing and disappearing with no options on them)03:21
ph8then it just stops working with only the kde background visible03:21
ph8any ideas what that could be?03:22
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carstenhatake_kakashi: nfi?03:22
hatake_kakashiph8: did you have multiverse/universe repos enabled and/or using dapper?03:23
hatake_kakashicarsten: no fscking idea03:23
ph8not using dapper03:23
ph8and i think i have those repos enabled03:23
carstenhatake_kakashi: those responses don't help the linux-desktop-world, to be honst.03:23
hatake_kakashiph8: cat /etc/apt/sources.list| grep multiverse03:24
hatake_kakashicarsten: some people prefer that or something similar as an answer compared to no response03:24
arrinmurris there an easy way to get a gnome-style panel in kde?03:24
weedardipnlik, try editing /etc/network/interfaces :)03:25
edulixhi !03:25
ph8yep i've got breezy and breezy-backports multiverse on03:25
edulixhow can I disable by default bookmarks toolbar in konqueror? everytime I launch a new one it appears there03:25
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hatake_kakashiph8: that was before or after obtaining kubuntu-desktop?03:26
ph8why is that a problem/how do i fix it hatake_kakashi?03:26
ph8it was like that before03:26
ph8when i was using gnome03:26
dipnlikweedar: commented out the eth1 lines, need to do anything else?03:26
weedardipnlik, that should be it :)03:26
hatake_kakashiph8: multiverse and universe repos are not supported, so generally speaking, you may have obtained unstable/testing packages from those repos. That could give odd results03:27
dipnlikweedar: wee :)03:27
dipnlikwill reboot for testing, see ya!03:27
ph8so i should uncomment them, update and upgrade then reboot?03:27
ph8i can't find any errors.. :(03:27
ph8how do i alter my init.d to make sure gdm isn't starting in conflict?03:27
hatake_kakashiph8: I don't think that will help.. i.e. downgrading03:27
ph8i was using sysv-rc-conf but it doesn't work well in console-mode03:27
weedarsee you dipnlik! =)03:28
hatake_kakashiph8: iirc, when you get another desktop, it will ask you which do you want to set it as a default desktop manager. There is 3 options, one is gdm, then its kdm and then probably the third one is what you set yourself03:28
ph8I got that03:29
ph8set it to kdm03:29
hatake_kakashiedulix: not sure03:29
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ph8it seems that loads of gnome stuff, like gnome-panel, nautilus etc is starting when i boot to kde03:30
ph8do you think that removing gnome-desktop will sort it?03:30
hatake_kakashiph8: doubt it, but you may want to check the forums prior to doing so03:30
itahi all i have a question .. im with kubuntu in an ad-windows universe so im broke anyways .. but .. i cant reach smb/cifs shares with konqueror (anymore?!) .. i can easily mount -t cifs //1.2.3.4/someShare /mnt/someMount -o username=me,pw=notyourbusiness - but trying to reach that resource via konqueror with smb://1.2.3.4/someShare results (even after entering correct credentials) in an unauth err03:31
itame dumb ? or is there something like cifs://1.2.3.4 for konqueror or some other "trick" i should know ?03:31
hatake_kakashiI personally think if its possible to somehow goback on kubuntu-desktop by doing sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop. Then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file, commenting out on those multiverse/universe lines. sudo apt-get update it and then do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. Possibly this might work03:32
hatake_kakashiita: you cannot see the computer via <workgroup> ?03:33
hatake_kakashior what about smbtree?03:33
edulixhatake_kakashi: I think you could save diferent perspectives in konqueror, but that option is not showed in my kubuntu03:34
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itaoh .. let me try this first03:34
hatake_kakashiedulix: hmm.. well you might want to give #kde a go.03:35
itai can see lots of machines with smbtree - also the one i was trying to get on with konqueror03:35
hatake_kakashiita: so smbtree can see it but konqueror cannot see it? :/03:36
itasorry i dont know how to make my konqueror look through workgroups .. ?! i just enter <WORKGROUP> ?!03:36
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edulixhatake_kakashi:, I'm already there, I'll give it a try03:37
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hatake_kakashiita: try typing 'smb:/' in the address bar03:38
meaculpalo, I just upgraded from 3.4.1 to 3.5.1, and suddenly NONE of the windows get Window decoration, as in titlebar, minimize, maximize buttons etcetera!?03:38
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meaculpaThere are no titlebars, so I can't move windows arround by dragging etcetera. I have NO clue why/how this happens. Where should I start looking?03:39
itawow nice .) ok i do that i see the groups .. i click a group i see the machines .. i click the machine . and woop : im asked for username/pw .. but whatever i enter (even the data that works for the mount -t cifs....) i get a access denied to smb://someMachine03:40
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hatake_kakashiita: odd, well I'm not sure then03:40
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itanp im sure somethings weird here .. i thought it must be the difference between smb and cifs .. but wikipedia tells me its pretty much the same so i gave it a shot to ask :)03:42
mikearthur"dh_testdir" what  package is this command in?03:42
itathank you for trying to help03:42
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meaculpamikearthur, that's part of the toolset for creating Debian packages.03:44
meaculpamikearthur, I think the package is "debhelper"03:45
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meaculpamikearthur, but you should really install "build-essential".03:46
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hermanrWill Adept remain in the same form it has in Breezy?  I don't think Adept is particulary appealing and usable to a newcomer.03:58
HymnToLiferealy ?04:00
HymnToLifeI was never able to use adept04:00
HymnToLifeSynaptic all the way04:01
HymnToLifeoh04:01
HymnToLifenever mind04:01
HymnToLifewell I think the same then :D04:01
hermanrExactly.  Synaptic was sort of OK.  Adept looks like a pretty-printed view of sources.list.  That is really half-asses as a GUI.04:02
hermanrs/asses/assed/04:03
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itagimme a l, an a, another l, one more a, another l, and one last a ... lalala !04:10
ita(sorry i need a break i think)04:10
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rysiek|plhi there, guy04:16
rysiek|pls04:16
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rysiek|pldoes anybody know of a way of generating an X server event?04:17
rysiek|pla command, preferably04:17
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rysiek|pl*or*, alternatively, how to discover a scancode for a keycode, if the keycode is not listed in getkeycodes04:21
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mikearthurI've apt-getted lame, how come kaudiocreator won't use it?04:24
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mikearthurthe kubuntu wiki just mirrors the ubuntu one04:27
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rysiek|plhi there. a question asked on #ubuntu (got no answer), re-posting here:04:59
rysiek|plif I put my own script (or modify /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh) and want it to output messages ("loading My-Own_Something... [OK] "), I do know, I don't use echo. But what *should* I use? :)04:59
crimsunwhat you need to do is lsb-ify it05:01
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trappistcrimsun: is there a package that would give me the source of my running kernel?  where make-kpkg would give me the same kernel and I could use it instead of linux-headers-$(uname -r) to build drivers against?05:03
crimsuntrappist: you use linux-headers-$(uname -r) to build external drivers, not the full source05:03
trappistcrimsun: some modules need more than linux-headers.  loop-aes comes to mind.05:04
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crimsunin other words, you _could_ use the full source _if_ it hasn't split out the headers portion05:04
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crimsunthat's because loop-aes has fundamentally had a broken build system for years05:04
crimsunit has been that way since I began building it three years ago05:04
trappistso, is there no such package?  I see dozens of -source and -tree packages but I'm not sure any of them is what I'm looking for05:05
crimsunto answer your question - linux-source-2.6.15, or if you need more, linux-tree-2.6.1505:05
crimsunlinux-tree-2.6.15 is a metapackage that depends on l-s-2.6.15 (among others)05:05
trappistbut do those distinguish between 2.6.15-15 and 2.6.15-17 or i386 vs. k7?05:05
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crimsunthey don't care about the abi (the epoch)05:06
crimsunthe abi is maintained purely in the debian infrastructure05:06
trappistyeah I'm hoping for something that, say, the nvidia installer would recognize as the source of the running kernel05:06
hatake_kakashitrappist: the -15 and -17 includes minor dist appended fixes, etc. i386 and k7 are different arch for cpu05:06
crimsunhatake_kakashi: no, the -15 or -17 are not fixes but an abi indicator (epoch)05:07
trappisthatake_kakashi: I understand that.  I'm looking for a package that's a match for my running kernel, rather than the source of something similar05:07
hatake_kakashicrimsun: abi indicator? hmm interesting05:07
crimsuntrappist: the only thing that tracks your exact running kernel are the headers themselves.05:07
trappistsure would like to have such a package.05:08
trappistdoesn't debian do that?05:08
crimsunno05:08
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crimsunand what you want is for those broken external drivers' build systems to be fixed05:08
trappistI recall mandrake having kernel and kernel-source packages.  it was nice.05:08
crimsunyou only need headers to compile external modules. Anything more means a broken build system for $modules.05:09
trappistcrimsun: no, I don't even use loop-aes.  that was just an example.  what I want is an all-purpose package I can use to build drivers against, build a custom kernel, etc.05:09
crimsunthose are fundamentally different given our approach05:09
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crimsun1) external drivers are built using l-h-$(uname -r)05:10
crimsun2) building your own kernel means pulling down apt-get source l-i-$(uname -r)05:10
crimsunin other words, there is no reason why someone wanting to do (1) should ever have to concern her- /himself with (2)05:11
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stokes_anyone home05:14
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stokes_printer problem anyone?05:14
dipnlikstokes_: some05:14
stokes_dipnlik I get a message that it cannot connect to my CUPS server05:14
dipnlikstokes_: here it just worked, no idea :S05:15
stokes_dipnlik like to see my syslog error?05:15
trappistcrimsun: I guess I don't like the approach.  I don't hate it, but I would prefer something more like I'm describing.  I think it would obviate the need for all the -source and -tree packages.05:15
dipnlikyou can post on a pastebin so ppl here on the chan can help you05:16
crimsuntrappist: again, it's a different vector05:16
trappistunderstood05:16
stokes_dipnlik pastebin?? I dont follow05:16
weedarDoes anyone have the Belkin F5D7050 USB wireless adapter?05:17
dipnlikfrom /topic: "Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com"05:17
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stokes_thanks05:17
trappisthope we get the amarok 1.4 beta2 package soon05:18
weedarWhat does it do trappist ? (to lazy to google it)05:18
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weedartrappist, what does it fix?05:20
=== tijn trap hem aan cya
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stordalsbonDoes any1 know how to shut down the firewall?05:26
vgewhat firewall?05:26
trappistweedar: if you're upgrading from 1.3 and use a mysql backend, beta1 crashes on startup trying to backup your sqlite db05:27
trappiststordalsbon: I wrote this to wipe it out no matter what: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/flush05:27
weedartrappist, my problem is that after setting it to mysql it reverts to sqlite after I restart it..Although I'm not using the beta05:29
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trappistyeah I had that problem for a while in 1.3.  it just sorta went away after a while.05:29
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weedarhah, don't you just love bugs like that? The worst thing I usually get annoyed when the bug just goes away because I hate not knowing what's going on05:30
trappistyeah.  in aviation maintenance we called em phantom gripes.05:30
weedarYou probably shouldn't reveal how faulty airplanes are this close to summer/winter/anytime05:31
trappistwell it wasn't like sometimes they fall out of the sky and sometimes they don't.  it's like sometimes the weight-on-wheels indicator threshold is a little off and sometimes it's not.05:33
sverihi, i have some problems with special characters like  and  ..., i want to import contacts from a csv file into kontact, but the special characters wont be displayed correctly, no matter what i try, converting the file to utf8 with iconv didnt help, importing them with iso8859-1 characterset chosen didnt do the trick too, any ideas?05:33
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trappistyou could try using regular expressions to replace those characters, but I haven't figured out how to match unicode weirdness with regexes.  in pcre it's supposed to be /\uXXXX/ where XXXX is the 4-character unicode code05:35
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nadia007g morning...  wondering if anyone got linksys wireless speedbooster card to work with their kubuntu?05:35
weedartrappist, speaking of weird errors..I used to work at a computer store, sometimes a particular motherboard wouldn't accept a particular PCI card. It would work fine with another PCI card of the same model, and the first PCI card would work with another mobo05:35
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nadia007I've managed to get my card working... but I just can't get the wep encryption part to work.  Any suggestions?05:36
murdererwenas alguien m dice como busco paketes??? en kubuntu????? cn su gestor05:36
oskari#ubuntu-fi05:36
nadia007oskari. thx05:36
murdereres que tngo servirdores y eso pero nada no conectan o nose :s05:37
sveritrappist: i already thought about it, but i couldnt figure out any regularity about it, sometimes there was a string like: utf8-encodig:... sometimes the characters cant be displayed (it shows Muller when there should be Mller)...05:38
trappistsveri: try changing or unsetting your LANG environment variable05:38
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trappistpresumably that u in muller originally had an umlaut05:39
sveritrappist: hm, and then? i have no idea about lang variables05:39
trappistand then see what those characters look like05:39
sverimy lang is set at: LANG=de_DE.UTF-805:39
trappistoh, I'd expect any kind of de to be able to handle germanic characters like that05:40
sveriyeah, i thought that too05:40
trappistI just got done dealing with stuff like that converting pdf to html, but I just modified the character conversion table in the pdftohtml source05:40
sveriits really a pitty, when i import the csv file and choose iso8859-1 as encoding the characters are displayed correctly, but after the import the same sh.. happens again05:41
sverihm, sounds like hard work05:41
trappistyeah it sucked05:42
eXIstenZwhere can I download kde 3.51 from05:43
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weedareXIstenZ, check out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php05:44
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ricky_dsWhen I insert an audio CD, Konqueror just takes one entry of cddb for defining the name of the files while KsCD is asking me which entry of cddb is relevant. How can I make Konqueror also ask me?05:46
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slow-motionhallo05:47
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tomas_hi05:48
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ricky_dshi slow-motion05:48
slow-motionhi ricky_ds05:49
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eXIstenZhow can I use a network printer that is installed on a windows computer?06:13
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DevGetI got an error when loading a file to kaffeine06:18
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yezzurokay i need a good source.list with all the kubuntu files06:18
yezzurmine is ruined06:18
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DevGetit's about that wmvdmod.dll  isn't found06:18
DevGethow to get it=06:18
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yezzurmy list is ruined06:19
yezzurnot my kubunt06:19
yezzurtu06:19
patrixDevGet: install w32codecs from plf or universe or wherever it's from06:19
patrixyezzur: I got one, not the original , but close06:19
yezzurthat will work06:19
DevGet!w32codecs06:20
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:20
patrixyezzur: http://patrix.org/sources.list06:20
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patrixyezzur: make sure to remove the stuff you don't want (I uncommented the universe ,multiverse repositories, and added the 4 lines above #deb cdrom...)06:21
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sveritrappist: i even saw that this problem only seems to appear on my laptop, here i first installed everything in english and later i added german as native language, thats the only thing which comes to my mind what could cause theses problems, on other boxes it seems to work well (german language only)06:22
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trappistsveri: if you run 'locale' are all those vars consistent?06:22
trappistparticularly LC_ALL06:23
sverihm, i even see that LC_ALL is empty, the rest is consistent06:23
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weedarHas anyone here installed the rt2570 module?06:26
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bur[n] eranyone know if amarok 1.4 beta 2 is around somewhere?06:36
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_boisverteXistenZ:  have you checked out "samba"06:38
stupendo44bur[n] er: /join #amarok06:39
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ganymed_hallo06:51
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lastmanHello all.07:01
lastmanI'm new to kubuntu.  I'm trying to figure out how to install win32codecs07:01
weedarWhat is the KDE equivalent of System -> Administration->Networking?07:02
bipolarweedar: System Settings > Network Settings?07:02
weedarthanks bipolar :)07:03
bipolarnp07:03
patrix!w32codecs07:03
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:03
weedarAlthough I have to say "fsck those fsck'ing KDE-developers (or whoever responsible) for making most System Settings windows unusable due to impossible-to-reach administrator's mode button" *P'ed off*07:04
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HymnToLife+1,000,000 weedar07:04
patrixweedar: how is the button unaccessbile?07:05
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HymnToLifeI mostly use gnome admin tools anyway even in KDE07:05
weedarpatrick_, the windows is so big I can't access the button and the window is un-resizable07:05
trappistprobably one of those window-is-the-wrong-size bugs I saw on malone07:05
trappistyeah07:05
patrixweedar: tjhat's weird. not even alt-rightclic-drag can resive the window?07:05
trappistweedar: the system settings interface is kubuntu-specific.  kde ships kcontrol, which I prefer.07:06
weedarI've bitched about it earlier to one of the developers responsible, but I haven't seen anybody fix it yet07:06
HymnToLifepatrix > it can07:06
trappistweedar: there are bugs filed on it07:06
patrixHymnToLife: in general yes, but in weedar's case maybe not07:06
HymnToLifebut it will display the system menu window07:06
HymnToLifeinstead of the one youre trying to07:06
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weedarWow, this one was actually usuable once I hid the K-panel, but for some others I know this is not possible07:07
weedarpatrick_, what resolution do you use?07:07
patrix1280x1024, and I'm patrix not patrick_07:07
weedarwhoops, sorry patrix :)07:08
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weedarAnyway, the window died on me and then resized itself so now I can't even access it when hiding the panel07:08
patrixlol07:08
weedarThat's not even fair07:08
patrixthat's really weird07:08
HymnToLifeI'm 2048x153607:09
HymnToLifedefiitely not a resolution issue07:09
patrixwhat resolution , weedar ?07:09
weedarI'm using 1024x76807:09
patrixok07:09
weedarI only have a 15" screen so it's definetly the maximum I feel comfortable using07:09
patrixbtw07:09
patrixyou can MOVE windows by alt-leftclick-drag07:09
slow-motion07:09
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patrixI just changed my resolution to 1024x768, and yeah the buitton was hidden by the panel, but I just moved the window up07:10
weedarYeah it's a solution, but it's still buggy that you have to do that07:10
patrixsome developers forget about lower resolutions07:10
HymnToLifedammit07:10
weedarWhich is why I usually use kcontrol07:10
eXIstenZI installed xemacs but it doesn't appear in the start menu07:10
patrixthey all run 2048x1536 resolutions...... lol :P07:10
HymnToLifeit just won't work for me07:11
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weedarI bet all the developers use big-screen HD-ready LCD/pure evil/plasma TVs as displays07:11
HymnToLifeand I _am_ running 2048x153607:11
weedarwhat size is your monitor HymnToLife ? (this is not a pickup-line)07:12
patrixyeah it's lioke back in the days, when the GNOME devs were "oh GNOME isn't slow at all!" with their shiny new P4's, never considering it might be slow on some guy's 600MHz AMD machine07:12
HymnToLifeweedar> not so big07:12
HymnToLifeit's a 17"07:12
djibHello, I'm looking for an option that allows to navigate betweens windows that are grouped in the taskbar using the scroll on the mouse07:13
HymnToLifeon a laptop (it isn't mine, a friend's I tested on)07:13
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weedarAh, I see07:13
patrixheh07:13
patrixI've got 19 inches, 1280x1024 is perfect, don't feel the need for higher res07:13
Random_Transitbollocks! 17'' @ 2048x153607:13
djibI can't find out where it is and scrolling navigates between all windows which I don't like...07:13
Random_TransitHymnToLife...how do you SEE anything!!!07:13
HymnToLifenot really07:14
weedarWell, I'm usually not a big fan og huge monitors, but I wouldn't mind going up to 17 or 19" =)07:14
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HymnToLifebesides, I have a very bad vision07:14
HymnToLifelol07:14
Random_Transitlol07:14
HymnToLiferight now I'm 800x600 on an old monitor cuz mine broke down07:14
Random_Transitlol...me too07:15
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patrixlol07:15
patrixgood ol days07:15
Random_Transitonly i have mine set to 1024x76807:15
patrixDOS 5.1, win3!07:15
HymnToLifemine can't handle it Random_Transit07:15
weedarYeah, when we didn't have any fancy programming languages, we had to type out our programs with 0's and 1's07:15
HymnToLifeit's 15" though07:15
Random_Transitsame here07:15
weedarAnd when we ran out of 0's we had to use uppercase O's instead07:16
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Random_Transithey, i'm having problems getting my printer working, can anyone help me?07:16
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weedarwhat printer do you have Random_Transit ?07:16
Random_Transitlexmark z70007:16
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Random_Transiti've tried using the devkit drivers from lexmark's site07:17
angasuleI can't hear sound of a .ram stream with kaffeine (although I can hear sound playing other videos)07:18
angasule!realplayer07:18
uboturumour has it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:18
Random_Transitubuntu and CUPS can see the drivers, and the printer...in the right location, but nothing will print07:18
Random_Transitnot even any kind of communication errors07:19
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Random_TransitI've gotten this thing to work in other distros...namely SuSE.07:19
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weedarRandom_Transit, seen http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12479/ ?07:20
weedarAlso, take a peek at the HOWTO Random_Transit - over at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=z70007:20
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weedarRandom_Transit, I haven't used SuSE in years so I'm not familiar with the differences, sorry07:22
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Random_Transitweedar, i used it just last year before i switched to ubu...if it weren't for the fact that it still uses RPM...it'd be just as good as ubu07:24
djibHello, I'm looking for an option that allows to navigate betweens windows that are grouped in the taskbar using the scroll on the mouse07:24
djibI can't find out where it is and scrolling navigates between all windows which I don't like...07:24
Random_Transiti switched because apt is a godsend07:24
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Random_Transitdijib...try kompose...it's a full screen task manager...it's quite good07:25
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patrixhe's not looking for kompose, he's looking for the scrollwheel behaviour options07:26
patrixwhich  Ihave no idea where to find, djib , nor any idea if what you ask is possible07:26
djibI know it is possible patrix07:28
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Random_Transitdijb, sorry, i didn't read your comment fully07:28
djibOn my old kde that was the behavious07:28
Random_Transitwhat version of KDE, dijb?07:28
djib3.507:28
djibwell that's what I use now07:28
Random_Transitok07:29
djibIn 3.4 and 3.3 scolling would only scoll in grouped blocks07:29
Random_Transityeah, y'know, i've noticed that there were a few little features that aren't there myself07:29
djibvery convenient for programs like gimp07:29
Random_Transityeah, that's my one gripe about GIMP...it's all a mess of separate windows07:30
djiboh actually when I click it does what I expect07:30
djibit's just not as fast as scolling07:30
djibbut I can cope with it07:31
djibthanks07:31
Random_Transitregardless, you might want to surf around on kde-look.org07:31
Random_Transitsee if you can find a little tweak07:31
Random_Transitgreat site...i go there a lot07:31
djibok07:31
djibcheers07:31
Random_Transit^_^07:31
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jyri#ubuntu.fi07:38
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aldo-IT-hello all!07:39
aldo-IT-I've a noob question....07:39
aldo-IT-so please be patient... :)07:39
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aldo-IT-I've got this mini-itx (epia m10000) and can't install ubuntu... I get a read error from my cd rom in some part of the installation process. since I've tryed debian and it's always the same and since I can read correctly both cds with windoze, I was thinking of an hdd to hdd install... but dunno how todo it...07:39
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aldo-IT-some help whould be appreciated.... :)07:40
aldo-IT-tryed also a net-install (with debian) but my network card couldn't be detected properly... so here I am... looking for some help!07:41
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rysiek|plhullo07:43
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aldo-IT-it seems noone's here...07:44
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Random_Transithello...anyone here??07:48
Random_Transitweedar?07:49
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me2winhey07:54
eXIstenZHow can I enable the java web start?07:54
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me2winin what browser?07:55
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me2win!java07:56
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:56
eXIstenZI've already installed java07:57
Random_Transit!lexmark07:58
ubotuRandom_Transit: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:59
me2winyes well, that is why i asked you what browser07:59
patrixheh08:03
eXIstenZme2win, kubuntu08:05
eXIstenZme2win, konqueror, sorry.08:06
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mihaitranslate from dos to sh: copy con >a.txt08:08
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cigahi08:13
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tommybuonasera a tutti08:22
tommysono un nuovo utente linux08:22
weedarSomething in /etc/network/interfaces is locking my Kubuntu-PC on bootup, what can I do to boot it and fix the problem? :)08:22
ccc_!it08:23
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:23
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cigaanyone knows how I should compile amarok from svn for breezy?08:28
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eXIstenZme2win, still there?08:32
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korvenHow do i change the k-menu con?'08:41
korvenicon08:41
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_JuDgEn_How do i change the default icon for k menu?08:45
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Random_Transit_JuDgEn_...do a search for kmenu.png08:49
Random_Transitthen, open the folder containing that file08:49
Random_Transitand open it in GIMP08:49
Random_Transitfrom there, change it to whatever you wich08:49
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Random_Transit_JuDgEn_...you there?08:51
_JuDgEn_Random_Transit:  yes08:51
_JuDgEn_dont have gimp though but if i have a replacement icon08:51
_JuDgEn_?08:51
Random_Transitok08:52
Random_Transitthen just rename it kmenu.png08:52
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, After I installed xemacs it doesn't appear in the start menu, what can I Do08:53
Random_Transithmm...08:53
Random_Transitok, go and right click on the kmenu and go to menu editor08:53
_JuDgEn_ok08:54
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, are you using the new version of firefox08:54
Random_Transityup08:54
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Random_Transitif you're going to ask about a DEB package...i can't find one myself08:55
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Random_TransiteXIstenZ...have you got the menu editor open?08:56
eXIstenZyep08:56
Random_Transitok...08:56
Random_Transitgo to the utilities heading, and then to the editors sub-heading08:57
Random_Transitclick the "new item" button08:57
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, no such editors sub-heading08:57
Random_Transitok08:57
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Random_Transitwell, it really doesn't matter where you put it...08:57
Random_Transitso long as you know where it is08:58
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Random_Transitanyway, find a heading you would like the xemacs shortcut in, and then click "new item"08:58
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Random_Transitname the new item XEmacs08:59
_Cygnus_any hacker in here ?09:00
_Cygnus_i need to hack some junkie09:00
Random_Transit_Cygnus_....good luck09:00
Random_Transitlol....09:01
eXIstenZwhat an idiot09:01
mijnderthehe09:01
Random_Transit-_-;;09:01
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Random_Transithow much you want to bet he's going from room to room asking the same question?09:02
Txukiehi09:02
Random_Transithello Txukie09:02
Txukieis there a special room for kubuntu dapper questions?09:03
Random_Transitanyway, eXIstenZ, once you've created the new item, you need to fill in the commmand it will execute09:03
Random_Transitin this case, probably "/usr/bin/xemacs"09:04
Random_TransitTxukie...what's your question09:04
Txukiewell was wondering if somebody managed to make kde-window-decorator work09:04
Txukiewith Xgl + compiz09:04
Random_Transitsorry, Txukie...I actually haven't given XGL + Compiz a spin yet09:06
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Random_TransiteXIstenZ, did the new shortcut in the kMenu work for you?09:06
Txukieoh ok Random_Transit thanks anyways09:06
Random_Transitnp09:06
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, yeah, thanks :-)09:07
Random_Transit^_^09:07
Txukieive made a little howto on ubuntuforums to make it half work09:07
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, Do you know any good repos. for multimedia stuff, like w32codecs and such?09:07
Random_Transitooh...yeah, hold up, I'll check my apt-sources09:07
Txukietry the plf09:07
Txukiehttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf09:07
Random_TransitTxukie, yeah, but there is ACTUALLY a better repo if you want w32codecs09:08
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Txukiefalcon?09:08
eXIstenZTxukie, do you use firefox?09:08
Txukieof course09:08
robotgeek!w32codecs09:09
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install09:09
eXIstenZTxukie, Is the new version in the repos. ?09:09
Txukiewhich is the latest?09:09
eXIstenZ1.5.0.109:09
Txukieyeah09:09
eXIstenZI don't remember exactly09:09
eXIstenZwhat repos.?09:09
Random_Transitooh! really?09:10
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Random_Transitthis i did not know!09:10
Txukiebeen there for some time09:10
Random_Transitreally?09:10
Txukiewell i use dapper09:10
Random_Transitwhich repo?09:10
Random_Transitah09:10
Txukie;)09:10
Random_Transiti'm on breezy09:10
Txukiegot a bit tired of stability09:11
Random_Transiti've no need for bleeding edge09:11
Random_Transitlol09:11
Txukiewell its pretty stable everything works fine for me09:11
Txukieand is quite a lot faster than breezy09:11
Txukiespecially on bootup09:11
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Random_TransitTxukie, tired of stability? try slackware09:11
Random_Transit^_~09:11
Txukiei have gentoo on another computer09:12
Txukiejust to get on my nerves09:12
Random_Transitbeen meaning to give gentoo a spin...but i don't feel like waiting a week for the damn thing to compile09:12
Txukieyou can download precompiled stuff09:12
Txukiebut loses all its point09:13
Random_Transitlol09:13
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Txukiegentoo is awesome but not for the impatient09:13
eXIstenZRandom_Transit, what repos. were you talking of?09:14
Random_Transitactually they're one of the 'official' repos09:14
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Random_Transitone sec, i'll get the deb line from my apt-sources09:15
Random_Transitkynaptic is being a bit slow...09:15
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Txukiewow i didnt know kynaptic still existed in Breezy09:16
Random_Transityup09:16
Random_Transityou have to install it separately, though09:16
Txukieoh i see09:16
Txukiewell i never got used to it09:16
Txukiei still struggle with adept09:17
Txukiedifficult to beat synaptic09:17
eXIstenZTxukie, w32codecs doesn't exist in plf09:17
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Random_Transiti would use synaptic, and i still do when i use GNOME, but i just like some continuity...GNOME apps, with GNOME, KDE apps with KDE09:17
robotgeekeXIstenZ: what architecture are you using?09:17
eXIstenZrobotgeek, i38609:18
robotgeekeXIstenZ: it must be there on plf09:18
Txukiei just found it on plf09:18
Txukiehttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-1plf4_i386.deb09:18
robotgeekthanks Txukie ^^ eXIstenZ09:19
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Txukieyou're welcome09:19
Random_Transitif that source fails...try this one too...ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb09:20
Txukieoh i see so its marillat you were talking about09:21
Txukienever really liked using those with ubuntu09:21
Txukiebut for w32codecs should be just fine09:21
inteliwaspdoes anyone know a program that can show network usage like a graph on an interface?09:21
robotgeekinteliwasp: hmm, knemo in dapper. i don't know for breezy, sorry09:22
inteliwaspdarn, on my windoze box i have DU meter09:22
Txukietheres nubuntu distrib which is focused on that task09:23
Txukiefrom wikipedia: nUbuntu uses the light window manager Fluxbox to make using nUbuntu fast, yet still functional and easy. It includes some of the most popular security programs for Linux, such as Ethereal, nmap, DSniff, and Ettercap.09:23
eXIstenZTxukie, is K3B a good ripping prog?09:24
inteliwaspall i want is a way to see if i am sending or reciveing data on the fly...09:24
robotgeekeXIstenZ: yup09:24
Txukienothing like good old dd for me09:24
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Txukiebut yeah k3b is excellent too09:24
alleeinteliwasp: knemo for breezy: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/breezy/Pkgs.php09:24
sven_GPhi there I tried to install Kubuntu , and all what I get is a debootstrap error  it can not write some data and exits with error code 1 , anyone any idea ?09:24
robotgeekeXIstenZ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-multimedia/k3b/howtos.html#videointroduction09:25
Txukiesven_GP when do you get that error?09:25
sven_GPwhen the installer tries to write I think the bootloader data09:25
Txukiegrub?09:25
Snake__robotgeek: you been around a lot a awful lot latly :)09:25
Txukieduring installation09:26
Txukie?09:26
sven_GPit says (look in /log/ something... but when i try to open that log file its not existing09:26
robotgeekSnake__: hmm, i know all the links..muhahahaha09:26
sven_GPjep during installation09:26
sven_GPyes grub09:26
Txukiecheck your bios for virus protection09:26
Snake__lol09:26
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Txukieor MBR protection or something like that09:26
bam_anyone got a good suggestion where to get a full man pages compile in pdf format?09:26
Txukieand deactivate it09:26
sven_GPI already did that... I did not find anything, that was the first thing I was trying09:26
Snake__robotgeek: In all honesty, when I seen that link I thought of you, then when I noticed it was you I lmao09:26
robotgeeklol09:27
sven_GPwhat other MBR protection could that possibly be ?09:27
sven_GPis it possible that there is something in the HD what Blocks write to MBR ?09:27
Txukiedo you have IDE or S-ATA hard drive?09:27
sven_GPIDE09:27
Txukieyour IDE controller could be blocking it09:27
Txukieive seen that on some HP computers09:28
sven_GPhmmm but why09:28
Txukiewell its a feature for protection i guess09:28
sven_GPcontroler that blocks that  hmm09:28
sven_GPits not a bug its a feature :-)09:28
inteliwaspthanks allee09:28
Txukiethats what M$ says all the time09:28
alleeinteliwasp: np09:29
inteliwaspjust what i was looking for and more! :D09:29
Txukiedo you have a "brand" computer09:29
Txukie?09:29
navidjoonI just installed ubuntu but it didn't detect my modem09:30
navidjoonand it hasn't added the modem to the network interfaces09:30
sven_GPhmmm  I dont know its called intec (and a computer from a friend) the MB is asrock09:30
navidjoonHow can I do this now that the installation is over?09:30
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navidjoonMy modem is an ACORP external serial modem09:31
Txukiesven_GP i know its a pain but you can always install grub on a floppy09:31
navidjoonIt's connected on ttyS109:31
Txukiebut anyways when you boot it should give you a key to press to configure it09:31
Txukietake a good look at your booting screen09:31
navidjoonAnybody can help me on this modem problem?09:32
sven_GPhmm we try again.. Ill write later when it comes to the specific point again09:32
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Txukienavidjoon you should use pppoeconf09:32
eXIstenZrobotgeek, do you prefer kubuntu over ubuntu?09:32
robotgeekeXIstenZ: yes09:33
Txukiei do too09:33
inteliwaspditto09:33
crimsunI don't, but that's another story altogether :)09:33
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navidjoonIsn't that for ADSL modems Txukie ?09:34
robotgeekhey crimsun09:34
crimsunhey robotgeek09:34
Txukieyeah09:34
Txukieo right you have a dialup modem09:34
Txukiesorry09:34
navidjoonSo any other suggestions guys?09:34
Txukieamarok, k3b, konqueror, all those apps kick ass09:35
Txukienavidjoon what does lspci say09:35
Txukie?09:35
navidjoonI'm not in Linux right now09:35
navidjoonIf I was I wouldn't bother asking09:35
navidjoonI'm sure the modem is linux compatible though09:36
Txukiewell i thought maybe you had your linux box nearby09:36
navidjoonI've used it on half a dozen of distros09:36
navidjoonHas anybody ever used a dial-up modem in KUbuntu?09:37
Txukiewell i think if ubuntu detects it as existing you should be able to confgure through kcontrol09:37
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cjones_i am new to all this but would like to make a live cd with a few more programs installed can this be done?09:38
Txukieyeah it can be done but dont expect it to be easy09:38
cjones_what kind of stuff would i need to do09:38
eXIstenZwhen I enter to the keyboard layouts09:39
eXIstenZI find nothing there09:39
Txukiewell i had a magazine explaining something about09:39
Txukieit09:39
eXIstenZmy keyboard model is not defined even09:39
Txukiedo you speak french?09:39
robotgeekcjones_: is this for a personal use or for distribution?09:39
cjones_personal use09:39
cjones_no i dont speek french09:40
Txukiecjones_ i think by ur nickname u speak spanish09:40
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cjones_all i want to install is some Diagnostic softwere09:41
cjones_and mabey a theme but thats not real importent09:41
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celeratehello again, I need help with networking09:42
Txukiecjones_ give a try to this http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/09:42
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Txukieits pretty well documetned09:42
celeratefirst off how do I keep my network card from connecting to other people's "default" wlans?09:42
rysiek|plguys, I run into something strange - I remember having console (not Konsole! the real, text-mode console) using and displaying nicely the diacritic characters (Polish to be precise), and then, suddenly, it started to display squares instead of them.09:42
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tucozHello, I read in the irc-logs for ubuntu that there will be a custom icon theme for ubuntu. Will this affect kubuntu as well?09:44
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Txukiecelerate i guess you could use a firewall09:44
Txukierysiek|pl are you using dapper?09:44
celerateTxukie, isn't there some other way. I'm using a wireless card so it should be possible09:45
Txukiewell just disconnect09:45
Txukieit09:45
Txukiesudo ifconfig ethX down09:45
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celerateI turned the interface off, but I'd like to keep it from hunting around for any available network when it is on09:45
Txukiedefine the wireless it should seek then09:46
celerateI want to get it to connect to my own wireless network, but that's not working for me either09:46
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Txukiedo you have WPA on your network?09:46
celerateyes I do have wpa09:46
celerateand I've got wpasupplicant installed09:46
trappistrysiek|pl: that sounds like a font issue (as opposed to a locales issue)09:46
celerateI followed these instructions: http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html09:46
Txukiehave you checked wpasupplicant is working correctly?09:47
celerateI'm not sure how to do that09:48
Txukiewell i guess you could try09:48
Txukielsof |grep wpa09:48
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celeratethere's lots of wpa_suppl entries09:49
Txukiethats good09:49
Txukiemeans that its running09:49
celeratebut the thing won't even see my network09:49
Txukienow you have to make sure you have configured wpa-supplicant correctly09:49
Txukiewait a sec09:49
Txukiecan you connect through a windows box?09:50
celerateI've edited the file as instructed by the site I mentioned, making appropriate adjustments for my network09:50
celerateto my router, yes09:50
celeratethe wireless network itself is healthy09:50
Txukiei was saying cause some routers dont broadcast if theyre not told to do so09:50
celerateah, I've got SSID advertising off09:51
celeratebut that shouldn't matter09:51
Txukietry turning it on it might help09:51
rysiek|pltrappist: yep, I figured that out, already, but how to get over it :)09:52
Txukieand i dont remember very well but maybe you have to define you WPA-PSK as something cryptic09:52
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Txukiei mean if you set password as "foo" in your router09:53
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darnellwhere can i find w32codecs?09:53
Txukiemaybe in config file you'll have to write something different09:53
Txukieim not sure im sorrt09:53
celerateok, now the ssid is being broadcast09:53
Txukiesorry^^09:53
Txukiedarnell http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-1plf4_i386.deb09:54
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Txukiemake sure too you are using wpa-psk and not wpa-radius or something like that on your router09:55
celerateyeah, It's PSK09:55
celeratebtw, how do I get off those "default" networks?09:56
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celerateI'd like to know, I know I wouldn't want anyone piggy backing off my network, so I won't do it to the neighbours09:57
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darnelldpkg -i is to setup .deb files yeah?09:58
Txukiedarnell yes09:58
Txukiecelerate iwconfig ethX essid "YOUR NETWORK"09:58
sven_GPhow can I check , if i can write to the MBR from the console09:58
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Txukiesven_GP sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub09:59
celerateok, it's not getting through09:59
Txukieif everything is ok then you can09:59
robotgeekcelerate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:00
celeratethanks robotgeek, I'm having a look at that now10:01
Soyburggood day.  I am trying to set the time between filesystem checks with tune2fs on breezy badger.  I do 'sudo tune2fs -c 90' to have it checked every 90 reboots.  But when I hit enter I get 'Usage: tune2fs [-c max_mounts_count]  [-e err....".  What am I doing wrong?10:01
sven_GPtxukie: is there any other possibility without having a full installed system (install console)10:01
nukyduring my installation of kubuntu, it halts at the point where it says installing grub boot loader.. do you know how i can get past this? it's on 0%.. the verbose version of the installtion has "virtual package created-fstab" as it's last output.. and packages to be installed is grub.. if that helps10:01
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Txukiecelerate check this too http://hostap.epitest.fi/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/hostap/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain10:01
Txukiesven_GP let me check that10:02
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sven_GPTxukie: ok thanks10:02
Soyburghas anyone in here been able to affect the time between fschecks with tune2fs and if so:  how?10:03
inteliwaspanyone brave enogh to help me with some pci issues? yes my speling sucks...10:04
celerateman, this is unecessarily complicated :-(10:05
Txukiewpa is not great yet celerate10:05
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inteliwasphey atleast your wireless works celerate... i'm outta luck.\10:05
celerateyeah, nothing is with my card. I can't get wep to work, I can't get WPA to work. maybe I should just give up and use Windows :-(10:05
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inteliwaspwait what is your AP?10:06
celeraterouter is going to reset again, bbiab10:06
xstI consider installing kubuntu-breezy now, but I am also aware that a newer version, Dapper, will be released in april. If I install breezy now, will I then be able to easily upgrade into Dapper in april? -And will I hereby get *exactly* an installation as in Dapper or will I miss someting?10:06
_jamesnooby10:06
inteliwaspwhat router did he have?10:06
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inteliwaspi know that linksys routers have a propriatery wep encryption on some of them...10:07
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inteliwasphey celerater...10:08
celeratehi10:08
FlatAlexhi there10:08
inteliwaspwhat is your router?10:08
sverixst: i upgraded without any problems from hoarthy to breezy, on 3 computers10:08
celeratemy router is a D-Link DI-524 802.11 a/b/g router10:08
rysiek|plok, the fonts info in wiki does not make anything clear in this10:08
sverixst: so i assume that upgrading to dapper will not be a problem at all10:08
rysiek|plany ideas how to change a console font?10:08
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sverirysiek|pl: do you remember my nic problem?10:08
Soyburgxst:  it probably depends on whether you heavily modify your system.  If you don't, you will probably be fine with the upgrade.10:08
Txukiecelerate have you tried latest network manager10:09
Txukiei know its gnome but might work10:09
celerateI don't have any GTK software on that thing10:09
Txukiewell it might be worth giving it a try10:09
celerateI'll have to unplug this computer to get internet on the other for apt10:10
xstok, thanks10:10
rysiek|plsveri: yup10:10
sven_GPTxukie: do u think its worth trying to write the MBR from another Motherboard and Computer (install it from there, and pulg the HD afterwards back)10:10
rysiek|plsveri: what's with it? :)10:10
Txukiethats a good idea10:11
Txukieinstall a server version though10:11
FlatAlexim trying to install gmailfs ... i downloaded the fuse python bindings but cant install them10:11
Txukieand then in your computer install ubuntudesktop10:11
robotgeekinteliwasp: go ahead10:11
FlatAlexit says: _fusemodule.c:20:18: error: fuse.h: No such file or directory10:11
Txukieor kubuntu-desktop10:11
sverirysiek|pl: i had to add acpi=off to boot options of grub10:11
sverirysiek|pl: that solved the problem10:11
FlatAlexand a couple of undeclared variables and stuff ... i seem to be missing some headers, but i dont know what10:12
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rysiek|plsveri: nice one :] 10:12
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inteliwaspRB: i am trying to get my wireless card to work and i was reading some trubleshooting info on the wiki, it said some stuf on the pci being misconfigured...10:12
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nukywhen installing kubuntu, what are good ratios for the root:var:home partitions? and is twice the ram ok for a swap?10:13
_JuDgEn_How do i konfigure kde to run zsnake from desktop area instead of rightclick menu?10:13
sverirysiek|pl: yes, so to say, it just came this afternoon to my mind, from somewhere out there ;-)10:13
rysiek|plsveri: maybe you could add this to the WiKi, or at least create a topic on the forum, so that if anyone gets the same problem, they will get the info :)10:13
rysiek|plsveri: not everyone is *that* genious, you know, to connect LAN NIC with... ACPI :)10:14
inteliwasprb: want the link to what i was reading?10:14
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robotgeekinteliwasp: sure, and please tab complete my whole nick :)10:15
inteliwasprobotgeek: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28CategoryNetworking%29    look at 4.1.2.1.10:16
robotgeekinteliwasp: you don't get output with cardctl?10:17
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rysiek|plso, anybody knows how to change the damn font? :)10:19
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sverirysiek|pl: yea, thats a very good idea, i already started a thread and send a mail to the ML, but i'll add in in the wiki, if i can do it10:19
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_shawni am having problems syncing my palm pda10:20
rysiek|plyou can, just create an account (i did for USplash stuff ;) )10:20
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inteliwasprobotgeek: It's on the pastebin10:21
robotgeekinteliwasp: link?10:21
_shawncan anyone help with syncing palm pdas?10:21
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robotgeek_shawn: try kpilot , never done it before. so i can't help oyu much there10:22
FlatAlexcan anybody help me with said gmailfs problem?10:22
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inteliwasprobotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59149010:23
inteliwasprobotgeek: sorry, reading too many windows... :P10:24
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robotgeekinteliwasp: also lspci -v output please10:25
inteliwasprobotgeek: up under the other items10:27
robotgeekinteliwasp: damn, the website i generally use is down, i'll have to google10:27
rysiek|plrobotgeek: what website?10:28
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rysiek|plbetter than google? I don't believe it :] 10:28
robotgeekhttp://linux-wless.passys.nl/10:29
inteliwaspfor wireless10:29
_JuDgEn_how do i change the default font for wine?10:29
rysiek|plah :)10:29
robotgeekinteliwasp: http://questier.com/howto.html10:30
_JuDgEn_wine is using abbadon on my system, and it is hardly readable10:30
inteliwasprobotgeek: will this work with the gold version?10:31
robotgeekinteliwasp: okay, lemme google again. i got confused about the 0110 and 0111 models10:31
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inteliwasprobotgeek: it is the 8420-WD10:32
lubohello, anyone know about some ra (Real Player) to mp3 converter?10:33
celeraterobotgeek, thanks for the links. I'm getting some progress made.10:33
robotgeekinteliwasp: momento10:33
inteliwasprobotgeek: oh wait...10:33
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inteliwasprobotgeek: it does do my card...... i think...................i hope10:34
Txukiesven_GP: I found something for your mbr thing10:34
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celeratesomething is happening different now10:35
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Txukiedamn after screwing my sandbox he disappears :(10:35
Txukiecelerate: what is different now?10:36
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inteliwasprobotgeek: are you looking for something better or waiting on me?10:37
robotgeekinteliwasp: waiting10:37
celeratethe KWiFiManager app is actually giving a Mac address after Access Point, it wasn' doing that before10:37
Txukiewell that means its found ur access point10:38
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inteliwasprobotgeek: i have the tarball, do i just tar -uzvx   it?10:38
celerateit's still not working though, but I think I may know why10:38
Txukiejust a suggestion for you celerate why not just use open access10:38
Chousukeinteliwasp: xvzf I think10:38
Txukieand then you filter your accepted connections through mac10:39
inteliwaspya your right, i thought i was forgetting domething10:39
_JuDgEn_How do i change the default font in wine?10:39
Txukieonly accepting your comp's wifi card's mac addres10:39
DeluxXx_anybody using xdcc-fetch ?10:39
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inteliwasprobotgeek: untared10:40
robotgeekinteliwasp: cool10:41
inteliwasprobotgeek: next step?10:41
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robotgeekinteliwasp: moment, in the middle of something here10:41
inteliwasprobotgeek: ok10:41
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Txukieanyone here using dapper10:42
Txukie?10:42
Txukiekubuntu dapper10:42
robotgeekinteliwasp, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:43
luisitohello here10:43
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luisitoI have tried to use the 70Hz refresh rate for my monitor adding 70 to the xorg.conf in the resolution (1280x960@70) but it didn't worl at all. What should I do to make this work at 1280x960? My card supports it and the monitor too, I have it in my Windows hardrive.10:43
inteliwasprobotgeek: do the entire this asis?10:43
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DeluxXx_Txukie im using dapper works fine10:43
meerkatzhello, can anyne tell me which package i'll have to install to also have mp3s when browsing an audio cd with kde? ogg/flac/wav are working. only the mp3 dir is missing10:43
TxukieDeluxXx_: do you have xgl working on it?10:44
robotgeekinteliwasp: yup, the stuff in the quotes10:44
Txukiemeerkatz: you need w32codecs10:44
robotgeek!xgl10:44
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:44
deepwoodzis there anyone reason my settings in systemsettings wont save when i try to access em10:44
DeluxXx_hm nope10:44
deepwoodzi been reading up10:44
deepwoodzi did everything in the tutorials10:44
Txukiewell i manage to make it work sort of10:44
Txukiebut have to use gnome-window.decorator10:45
deepwoodzstill doesnt save10:45
meerkatzw32codes for mp3?!10:45
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deepwoodzi even added super-user-command to kdecontrols10:45
Txukiemeerkatz: depends on the app really10:45
DeluxXx_try gstreamre meerkatz10:45
deepwoodzkdesu still doesnt save10:45
DeluxXx_gstreamer*10:45
Txukiemeerkatz: if you use gstreamer then just install all itsplugins10:45
deepwoodzi installed kde 3.5110:45
deepwoodzstill nothin...10:46
meerkatzok, i'll try10:46
meerkatzthnx10:46
inteliwasprobotgeek: crud... i just looked at my desktop and i have lotsa crap on it...10:46
Txukiemeerkatz: if you use mplayer then you need w32codecs10:46
deepwoodzi had to manual jumpstart my network settings10:46
robotgeekinteliwasp: brb10:46
Kr4t05OK, I installed vanilla Ubuntu Hoary and upgraded to Breezy, and them got kubuntu-desktop. Does this make my system true Kubuntu? Or, do I need to do something else?10:46
TxukieKr4t05: it does10:47
Kr4t05But, my terminal takes 'sudo' instead of 'kdesu'10:47
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TxukieKr4t05: terminal doesnt work through kdesu or gksudo10:48
Txukiealways through sudo10:48
Kr4t05ah10:48
Kr4t05ok10:48
Txukiewell it does work but its not the good way of doing it10:48
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Kr4t05:P10:48
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TxukieAFA you are willing to learn that doesnt matter ;)10:49
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inteliwasphow do i delete a directory on the command line if there are thing in it?10:50
robotgeekinteliwasp: rm -r dir10:50
patrix-r = recursive10:50
irishi, can't find kubuntu-desktop, whats's the apt source, please?10:51
Txukiepatrix:  i think its actually -R10:51
patrixI've used -r since 199610:52
patrixman rm will answer the question of course10:52
patrix       -r, -R, --recursive10:52
patrix              remove the contents of directories recursively10:52
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Txukiepatrix: funny ive always thought that -r was something else10:53
patrixheh10:53
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patrixmaybe in some other command10:53
Txukiei even make -Rf to delete folders10:53
patrixlike ls, for example, -R and -r are diff10:53
Txukieyeah i think chmod too10:54
Txukiesorry for my mistake :(10:54
inteliwasprobotgeek: ok i did the install on gcc...10:54
Txukieiris: in dapper its in main10:54
celerateI think it worked :-)10:54
Txukiein breezy im not sure it might be in universe10:54
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celerateit didn't lag on bootup, no complaints about npt.ubuntu.org being unreachable10:54
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deepwoodzdamn it sitll not workin anyone else ran into the password not workin 4 systemsettings or for kcontrol (well i can access admin mode now it just doesnt save anything)10:55
celeratedamn, it just piggybacked on another "default" network again >:-(10:55
celeratesomeone tell me how to keep this bugger off "default" networks please.10:56
robotgeekinteliwasp: i gotta go now, sorry10:56
inteliwaspwill you be back on later?10:57
Txukiecelerate: have you tried manually editing /etc/network/interfaces10:57
Txukie?10:57
luisitowhich are the packages I should always install to compile programs?10:57
irisTxukie, i am on breezy10:57
Txukieluisito: build-essential10:57
Txukieiris: try uncommenting your universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list10:58
robotgeekinteliwasp: yes, later10:58
celerateTxukie: yes10:58
robotgeekinteliwasp: i am guessing 3-4 hours10:58
Txukiecan i take a look at it celerate10:58
inteliwasppurfect!10:58
FlatAlexapt-get keeps asking for the dapper flight4 cd when i try to install new files ... is this really necessary??10:58
robotgeekinteliwasp: cool, later then10:58
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luisitoTxukie: so I should do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"10:59
luisito?10:59
TxukieFlatAlex: probably, unless u delete the cdrom line in sources.list10:59
Txukieluisito: yes10:59
_thumper_does anyone here know how to map AltGr to Alt?10:59
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FlatAlexwhy shold i want the cdrom line in sources.list?11:00
darnellhow do i change and download themes with kubuntu11:00
darnellis there an art manager?11:00
TxukieFlatAlex: because its quicker than downloadin stuff from the net11:00
luisitoTxukie: thanks11:01
FlatAlexoh, well :-) good point, hehe11:01
patrixTxukie: however you don't get the updates that way11:01
FlatAlexand uhm ... did anybody get gmailfs to work?11:02
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patrixyeah I did, FlatAlex11:02
darnellhow do i change and download themes with kubuntu11:02
patrixit was crap lol11:02
FlatAlex:-) why?11:02
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patrixFlatAlex: it was slow, for some reason only root was able to access it11:03
patrixI didn't try to figure out why only root, cause it was so slow anyway11:03
Kyraldarnell: Go to someplace like KDE-Look.org, find one you like, and then open the Theme Manager (System Settings -> Appearance)11:03
KyralTell it you want to install a new theme and when the location box pops up, drag (literally) the download link into the box11:04
Txukiekubuntu conf manager doesnt include anything to change your theme11:04
Txukieyou have to use kcontrol instead11:04
FlatAlexpatrix: :-( it doesnt work for me, the gmailfs.py  throws an exception ... maybe they changed something with the login11:04
KyralTxukie: It does :P11:05
KyralSystem Settings Applet :P11:05
TxukieKyral: AKA kcontrol11:05
Txukiein an applet :P11:06
patrixFlatAlex: I followed instructions I found on ubuntuforums.org11:06
KyralI see no difference lol11:06
Txukiewhat i meant is that under the system settings its not accesible11:06
Txukiewhich is stupid IMO11:06
irisTxukie, i look11:07
KyralTxukie: KControl isn't installed by default?11:07
Txukiepatrix: sorry patrix i lost wot u were saying11:07
TxukieKyral: it is but no link on KDE menu11:07
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KyralThen how did one get on mine?11:08
KyralOh wait I'm on Dapper :D11:08
patrixheh11:08
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patrixargh why do I always read diaper instead of dapper?11:09
Kyrallol11:09
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celeratethere it goes again, every time I reboot my laptop goes into another "default" network no matter what11:09
zi99yhola folks11:09
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KyralSo yah I think I should take a buncha the "Service Menu" scripts from KDE-Look and put them all in one massive "konqueror-service-menus" package11:10
rysiek|plgtg, cu all11:10
TxukieKyral: im on dapper and not on mine11:11
KyralTxukie: *Shrug*11:11
Txukiecelerate: i have sent you a PM11:11
KyralDunno what I installed lol11:11
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Txukiepoor celerate keeps rebooting his computer LOL11:16
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celerateTxukie, yeah I got the PM and replied11:18
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Txukiehavent seen it11:18
celerateI don't see why having to reboot is funny11:18
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Txukieim just kidding celerate ;)11:18
celerateok11:18
Txukiecant see your message11:18
celerateI think ndiswrapper is trying to work on an interface called wlan0, but I don't have one, my wireless interface is called ath0 and has that same alias11:19
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Txukieif your card can get the mac address of your router that means you can use wifi11:20
irisTxukie, thanks a lot!11:20
Txukieso driver is working fine11:20
Txukiei dont know if you can use wpa supplicant with ndiswrapper11:20
Txukieyou are using windows drivers after all11:21
Kr4t05Anyone got a tip for cleaning out old .desktop files quickly and easily?11:21
celeratewell that sucks11:21
Txukiecelerate easiest thing really11:21
Kr4t05My menu is filled with old apps that I removed, and I don't want to go through and remove them by hand.11:21
Txukieis to configure your router to accept only connections from your mac address11:22
Txukieand then not use any password11:22
Txukiethats what i do11:22
FoodcomanAnyone have any idea why Konqueror would not start and just dies?11:22
Txukieand i guarantee nobody has gotten in my connection yet11:22
TxukieFoodcoman: start it from a konsole11:23
celeratemac filtering is easily circumvented11:23
Txukieif you know the mac address that you have to use ;)11:23
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Txukieand theres like 10 billion combinations11:23
Txukieor so11:23
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FoodcomanWont start.11:24
FoodcomanCursor drops to next line and that its.11:24
TxukieFoodcoman: whats the output11:24
FoodcomanBRB11:24
celerateTxukie, that's what packet sniffers are for11:24
deepwoodzdid they get rid of kde 3.5.2 unstable already?11:24
Txukietcp/ip packs dont have your mac address on them11:24
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darnellwhy is kde so slow..11:26
darnelladept wont load, or it takes 10 minutes11:26
tsdgeosdeepwoodz: kde 3.5.2 does not exist yet11:26
celerateTxukie, maybe, but I'm still airing on the side of caution11:26
darnellwont install java11:26
celeratethe packets can still be analyzed for personal information11:26
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epzthi all11:28
Txukieyeah but wpa isnt gonna save you from that11:28
Txukielook theres a digram of tcp packets11:28
Txukiehttp://www.netfor2.com/tcp.htm11:28
darnellsucks, im going back go gnome11:28
Txukiecelerate: trust me i know what im talking about ive got a degree in netwrks11:29
epztdsl connction not started automaticaly at boot time, must allways use pppoeconf to reconfig it and start it11:29
Txukiedarnell: java and gnome have absolutely nothing to do11:29
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Txukieam i the only one that updates its repos for updates every 3 hours or so?11:33
Txukiei think im apt-addicted11:33
Kr4t05Txukie: Same here.11:33
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TxukieKr4t05: well i like synaptic but i prefer console11:34
Txukieand i dont like adept11:34
Kr4t05Hrm11:35
Kr4t05Does anyone have any idea how to clear out my menu of old links?11:35
Txukieu mean unused ones?11:36
aseigoold links?11:36
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Kr4t05Yes11:36
Kr4t05Smeg won't apply changes when I use it.11:36
Kr4t05:/11:37
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Txukiei thought they were just deleted when u took them off your kde menu11:37
__P__3hi11:37
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__P__3i can' connect to msn using kopete11:37
Kr4t05They are deleted, I just don't know how to get them off of my KDE menu.11:37
__P__3i am alone?11:37
epztwhy must allways reconfi my dsl connection every time at start my box ?11:37
celeraterunning wpa_supplicant by hand gives me this: "WPA: Failed to parse WPA IE from association info"11:37
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aseigoKr4t05: use the kde menu editor instead? perhaps smeg is doing something wrong11:38
Txukiecelerate: sorry that beats me i dont know wot it could be11:39
Txukiecelerate: consider what ive told you though11:39
celeratewell at least I'm making some kind of progress, I've got the wireless AP mac address up again11:39
_P_are here with problem connecting to msn using kopete?11:39
celerateor at least I did for a while :-/11:39
Txukieim ok with amsn at the minute11:39
_P_no amsn11:40
_P_but kopete11:40
_P_amsn works11:40
celerate8-o11:40
celerateit worked11:40
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Txukienice!11:41
Txukiecongratulations11:41
celerateamazing11:41
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Txukie_P_: have you correctly configured kopete?11:43
celerateI'm not sure, the network is connecting, but no internet :-p11:43
celerateit's progress though :-)11:44
Txukiedns?11:44
Txukietry ping an ip address11:44
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_P_Txukie:  how?11:44
_P_it works until yersterday11:44
Kr4t05Ok11:44
Txukiesorry _P_ was talking to celerate11:45
Txukieok _P_ now with you let em open kopete11:45
Kr4t05I used KDE Menu Editor, but the changes aren't showing up. Do I need to restart KDE?11:45
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TxukieKr4t05: maybe just kicker11:45
celerateok, I've got a connection, but I'm not getting an IP address11:45
celeratemaybe it's not configured for DHCP?11:46
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Txukiedhclient ethX11:46
Txukie_P_ kopete is working fine for me with msn11:47
Kr4t05Txukie: How do I restart the kicker? (taskbar, I take it?11:47
_P_thanks11:47
Txukiekillall kicker11:47
Tm_T_P_: Kopete is not connecting?11:47
SynsE: /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 111:47
celerateiwconfig is giving me good info in the ap though, now I'm not sure why I'm not getting internet11:47
Synscan someone tell me what that is?11:47
celerateor an IP address11:48
Kyralcelerate: maybe its a shit signal11:48
Txukie_P_ try deleting all kopete config from your home directory and start over again from default11:48
Kr4t05Txukie: No dice. For some reason, KDE Menu Editor isn't applying my changes11:48
Txukiei had that problem once11:49
_P_done twice11:49
Txukiewith a quake icon11:49
Kr4t05I'm tempted to reinstall KDE11:49
Tm_T_P_: try another protocol11:49
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Txukie_P_ did you delete your config folder under ur home=?11:50
aileanhey guys. i have wine installed, and can't get ie6 to install.  i know it SHOULD work, but not on my machine. can anyone help?11:50
celeratewhat are the permissions supposed to be on the file /etc/network/interfaces?11:50
Tm_Tcelerate: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 399 2006-01-30 20:10 /etc/network/interfaces11:51
Txukie-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 633 2006-03-08 21:33 /etc/network/interfaces11:51
celerateif I have 477 instead of 633 would that cause a problem?11:51
_P_Tm_T:  same problem with icq11:52
_P_but irc works11:52
Tm_Theh11:52
Txukie..............11:52
Txukietry opening ports11:52
Txukie_P_11:52
celerateme opening ports, or was that for someone else?11:52
Tm_T_P_: then Kopete works, sounds like firewall problem to me11:52
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_P_i have no firewall :D11:52
Tm_Tyou do11:53
_P_it ask me for passwd11:53
Tm_Taha?11:53
Txukie_P_ router?11:53
Tm_Tbah, sleep ->11:53
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Txukie_P_ check in your connection settings11:53
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Txukiein kopete/msn11:54
Txukietry using the HTTP method11:54
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verdencan anyone tell me the chat site for dapper?11:56
_P_with http metod works11:56
avuverden: #ubuntu+111:56
_P_thanks11:56
verdencool thanks11:56
Txukie_P_ firewall as i told you11:57
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zielonyHow can I mount bin image file ?11:59
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HymnToLife!bin12:01
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife12:01
avuzielony: convert it to an iso image with bchunk, then mount that with mount -oloop12:01
Kr4t05Does anyone know how to set system time via the terminal?12:01
avukr4t05: date12:01
Kr4t05avu: Thanks12:02
HymnToLifewith sudo12:02

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