[12:03] <celerate> LVM = logical volume management
[12:03] <ziza> i explained it a little an hour ago
[12:03] <ziza> celerate: right :)
[12:04] <HymnToLife> !lvm
[12:04] <ubotu> well, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[12:04] <ziza> _emmanuel: do you mean it Linux makes you more calm or more aggressive? :)
[12:04] <ziza> -it
[12:05] <celerate> ziza, yes, but usually more calm
[12:05] <celerate> if you have high blood pressure I highly recommend linux, Windows may be putting your health at risk
[12:05] <ziza> ok, but that's not always the case
[12:05] <nuky> hi, i installed superkaramba by converting the tar.gz to a deb with alien.. do you know where it would have installed to? i can't find it in menu, terminal, find or locate.. :/
[12:06] <Snake__> nuky: can you run it via alt+f2?
[12:06] <ziza> for example, i was lucky in that i didn't have to compile anything the first time installed ubuntu. i just could figure enough out in order to setup w32codecs, installing dep packets and such
[12:07] <HymnToLife> celerate> not to mention it can create in you a hatred towards blue color
[12:07] <celerate> haha, too true HymnToLife
[12:07] <HymnToLife> which is not good for french people, especially those who like soccer
[12:07] <ziza> or setting up my internet connection via the command line :), had to research the commands on my windows machine
[12:07] <celerate> ever since switching to Linux though, I've learned to forgive blue
[12:07] <nuky> Snake__: nah, i get a pop-up saying, Could not run the specified command.
[12:08] <Snake__> nuky: hmm your sure it installed?
[12:09] <nuky> i'm starting to think it didn't.. i did "apropos super" and it didn't turn up either..
[12:10] <nuky> but when i uninstalled with dpkg, it said that 102184 files were removed!! grrrr
[12:10] <Snake__> lol
[12:10] <celerate> are you sure there's no existing superkaramba package already?
[12:11] <nuky> i can only find the tar.gz... and when i tried to compile from source, i had a few issues with Qt and i thought the dpkg installation would resolve that..
[12:11] <HymnToLife> hmmmmm that LVM thing is very intersting indeed
[12:11] <Snake__> nuky: get this
[12:11] <Snake__> !qt
[12:11] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[12:12] <celerate> I'm going to assume ubotu is a bot because it responds to !* and has 'bot' in it's name
[12:12] <nuky> ahhh!! cool.. thanks!! :)
[12:12] <Snake__> celerate: Yessir :)
[12:13] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[12:13] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:13] <celerate> hey, was it what said hello to me when I joined?
[12:17] <HymnToLife> !hello
[12:17] <ubotu> Hi, hymntolife!
[12:34] <Kr4t05> Anyone know where I can get those neat desktop widgets for KDE?
[12:34] <Kr4t05> IE: RAM used, CPU usage
[12:36] <frank23> Kr4t05: the sysguard applet can do that in the taskbar
[12:37] <frank23> Kr4t05: it comes with kde
[12:40] <ccc_> Kr4t05: for the desktop, try superkaramba
[12:40] <Brydenn> who here knows a bit about GRUB?
[12:40] <dcwckd> hey all
[12:40] <Brydenn> i have some questions about GRUB
[12:40] <dcwckd> Brydenn: ask
[12:40] <frank23> Brydenn: just ask
[12:41] <Brydenn> k well... I have Ubuntu as my Master Drive and WinXP Pro as my Slave... how can I (through GRUB) boot to windows from the GRUB menu?
[12:41] <Brydenn> cuz it's not showing up as an option
[12:41] <dcwckd> did you install grub with the ubuntu cd
[12:42] <Brydenn> well i believe i did a full system update
[12:42] <dcwckd> has anyone experienced any problems with WMVs, I can see video, but audio really jumps on some of them, not all, I know WMV is a wrapper class, is there anyway to tell if im missing an audio codec
[12:42] <dcwckd> Brydenn: um, one sec
[12:42] <frank23> dcwckd: what do you mean by jump? it skips?
[12:43] <dcwckd> yup
[12:43] <frank23> dcwckd: I have the same problem when I use xine (kaffeine) but it works with mplayer
[12:43] <dcwckd> thanks frank
[12:43] <Brydenn> i'm plaing a WMV and the audio isnt skipping,etc
[12:43] <dcwckd> will install mplayer
[12:43] <frank23> dcwckd: kmplayer and kplayer are 2 players that use mplayer
[12:43] <dcwckd> Brydenn: add this to grub\
[12:44] <Brydenn> k
[12:44] <dcwckd> http://pastebin.com/589970
[12:44] <dcwckd> frank23: which should I install
[12:45] <dcwckd> Brydenn: obviously change hd, to represent the physical drive
[12:45] <frank23> dcwckd: i use kmplayer but you have to compile it yourself
[12:45] <dcwckd> Brydenn: do a "locate menu.list"
[12:45] <dcwckd> frank23: thanks
[12:46] <frank23> dcwckd: do you know how to compile software?
[12:46] <Brydenn> this the right one dcwckd ? /var/lib/doc-base/info/menu.list
[12:46] <dcwckd> mo
[12:46] <dcwckd> no
[12:46] <dcwckd> should be like /etc/grub/menu.list
[12:46] <dcwckd> and add the entry to the bottom of the file
[12:47] <dcwckd> frank23: i dont need a gui
[12:47] <dcwckd> lol
[12:47] <dcwckd> mplayer filename works just fine :P
[12:47] <frank23> dcwckd: ok
[12:48] <frank23> dcwckd: I think our problem is due to xine and a specific sound driver... what is your sound card?
[12:48] <dcwckd> but thanks
[12:48] <dcwckd> WMV is playing perfectly
[12:48] <dcwckd> i have a SBLive 5.1
[12:49] <dcwckd> is there anyword with kubuntu booting with EFI?
[12:49] <frank23> dcwckd: hmm... maybe not. I have via integrated
[12:51] <dcwckd> Brydenn: fix it?
[12:51] <Brydenn> not sure
[12:51] <Brydenn> what do i rename the HD though
[12:51] <Brydenn> cuz defualt is HD0?
[12:51] <Brydenn> my windows drive is named HDB1 under linux
[12:51] <Brydenn> but i'm not sure if thats what i should rename it to
[12:52] <dcwckd> is your windows drive
[12:52] <dcwckd> a partition
[12:52] <dcwckd> or a physical drive
[12:52] <Brydenn> no its a seperate drive
[12:52] <Brydenn> physical
[12:52] <dcwckd> sec
[12:52] <Brydenn> k
[12:52] <dcwckd> (hd1,0) should work
[12:53] <Brydenn> hmm ok
[12:53] <dcwckd> is there anyword with kubuntu booting with EFI?
[12:53] <dcwckd> my new mini is coming this week
[12:56] <songo> hey!!
[12:56] <songo> quick way to eject cd-rom
[12:56] <songo> how?
[12:56] <dcwckd> !eject
[12:56] <ubotu> dcwckd: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:57] <songo> WAW
[12:57] <songo> that was quick enough
[12:57] <songo> bye
[12:58] <songo> wait a minute
[12:58] <songo> what is '!' about??
[12:59] <songo> what else i ican do with it?
[12:59] <HymnToLife> it's to have ubotu give answers
[12:59] <HymnToLife> because we are too lazy to say them ourselves
[01:00] <HymnToLife> to eject a CD, right click on his icon on the desktop and hit 'Eject'
[01:00] <songo> doens't
[01:00] <HymnToLife> any errors ?
[01:00] <songo> device is mounted
[01:01] <dcwckd> unmount it
[01:01] <HymnToLife> normally eject unmounts as well...
[01:01] <dcwckd> noramlly
[01:01] <songo> doesn't allways
[01:01] <dcwckd> forcefully unmount it
[01:01] <dcwckd> or reboot
[01:01] <songo> !eject still quicker
[01:01] <ubotu> songo: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:01] <HymnToLife> songo> what if you run eject from a CLI ?
[01:02] <ccc_> songo: you have a konqueror window with the cdrom open, or standing in the cdrom dir in a terminal? if it can't unmount, it's being used somehow.
[01:02] <songo> i've already ejected the cd! what's wrong with u?
[01:02] <HymnToLife> ccc_> then I guess it would say 'Can't unmount /dev/hdwhatever - device in use'
[01:03] <songo> i just want to know what '!' means
[01:03] <HymnToLife> I told you
[01:03] <HymnToLife> it's to have ubotu tell answers when we are too lazy to do it ourselves
[01:03] <songo> ok
[01:04] <dcwckd> for example
[01:04] <dcwckd> !mp3
[01:04] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[01:04] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:05] <ccc_> Glin|Jol: please...
[01:05] <ccc_> HymnToLife: ah, true.
[01:06] <songo> never mind, i'll try man !
[01:06] <songo> man never lets me down
[01:06] <Brydenn> ok that didnt work
[01:06] <Brydenn> didnt boot to windows
[01:07] <Brydenn> hd1,0 didnt work :(
[01:16] <_mito> hola
[01:16] <_mito> alguien por ahi
[01:16] <_mito_> hola
[01:16] <_mito_> ahola
[01:16] <_mito_> sad
[01:16] <_mito_> as
[01:16] <_mito_> da
[01:16] <_mito_> sdasdasd
[01:17] <_mito> asdsdadasdsadasd
[01:17] <_mito> sdds
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> s
[01:17] <_mito> sd
[01:17] <_mito> d
[01:17] <_mito> d
[01:17] <_mito> d
[01:17] <_mito> d
[01:18] <heck> hi all.. any pointers to how can i reinstall the bootloader?
[01:22] <bimberi> !grub
[01:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:22] <bimberi> heck: maybe something in that lot ^^^^^ :)
[01:23] <heck> bimberi: thanks .. i googled but haven't had much luck
[01:24] <callie> heck, was it after you re installed windows?
[01:25] <heck> callie: no i installed it on a qemu vm but rebooted the machine before i install the bootloader (was sleeping anyway lol)
[01:35] <bestadvocate> hey guys, you know the Cover Manager for amarok?  is there anyway to save the cover art with the music files so that other programs can register the art?
[01:37] <apappu> hello all I just have a question.  if I want to see the source code for say any application like ls where how do i get the source in ubuntu
[01:37] <ccc_> bestadvocate: try #amarok
[01:38] <apappu> what is amarock? and how do i use it
[01:38] <HymnToLife> this was not for you apappu :)
[01:38] <HymnToLife> you can get the source of everything from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <apappu> sorry my bad
[01:38] <apappu> is there a way I can use apt-get to get the source
[01:39] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:39] <HymnToLife> but I don't know it :p
[01:39] <HymnToLife> it's been a while since I downloaded sources
[01:40] <LjL> apappu: yeah
[01:40] <LjL> apappu: sudo apt-get source packagename
[01:41] <LjL> apappu: you need to have your source lines enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:41] <bestadvocate> ccc_:ok
[01:41] <LjL> apappu: apt-get -b source packagename will download the source *and* compile it
[01:53] <mikearthur> how do I upgrade a package that has been "kept back"
[01:54] <Captainbraille> Hi, I have a game cd in my cd drive,, when I go to /cdrom I can't see any files, but if I make an image of the cd, then mount the image, I can see the files. If there a setting or a way I can see the images without having to do that?
[01:55] <HymnToLife> Captainbraille> are you _sure_ your drive is mounted to /cdrom ?
[01:56] <Captainbraille> HymnToLife: I'm not sure, how do I found out if it is?
[01:56] <HymnToLife> Captainbraille> cat /etc/fstab
[01:57] <Captainbraille> HymnToLife: should I just paste the results here?
[01:57] <HymnToLife> just the line involving your cdrom drive
[01:57] <Captainbraille> those are the cd drives.. "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:57] <Captainbraille> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:57] <Captainbraille> "
[01:58] <HymnToLife> hoho
[01:58] <HymnToLife> you have two drives
[01:58] <Captainbraille> lol, what?
[01:58] <HymnToLife> so you should go and see in /media/cdrom1
[01:58] <Captainbraille> is that okay?
[01:59] <HymnToLife> /cdrom is a symlink redirecting to /media/cdrom0
[01:59] <HymnToLife> and obviously you insert your CD in the other drive
[01:59] <HymnToLife> so you'll find your files in /media/cdrom1
[01:59] <Captainbraille> HymnToLife: I don't see anything in either of the cdrom0/1 folders, the disc is the expansion to diablo 2, could it be because there are all exe and dll files?
[02:00] <HymnToLife> nope
[02:00] <HymnToLife> is your driv mounted ?
[02:00] <HymnToLife> run sudo mound /dev/hdc
[02:00] <Captainbraille> How do I check that? sorry, I'm a real newb
[02:00] <HymnToLife> or sudo mount /dev/hdd depending in which drive is your CD
[02:00] <Captainbraille> okay
[02:00] <HymnToLife> mount*
[02:01] <Captainbraille> okay I got this.. mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:01] <HymnToLife> ok
[02:01] <HymnToLife> so now you'll find your files in /media/cdrom1
[02:01] <Captainbraille> okay, now it's showing files
[02:02] <HymnToLife> it's weir though
[02:02] <HymnToLife> it _shoul_ mount it automatically
[02:02] <Captainbraille> Is there a way to make that happen automatically? oh it should =P
[02:03] <HymnToLife> for some reason it doesn't but it should be back to normal after reboot
[02:03] <Captainbraille> okay, I'll try rebooting now =) Be right back
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need someone with basics BASH programming abilities
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am trying to modify the execution of firefox such that i will never have more than one instance running
[02:06] <HymnToLife> Tallia1Kubuntu> you'l find more people able to help you in #ubuntu
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and every new url request is displayed simply in a new tab
[02:07] <HymnToLife> there's an argument about bah scripting going on :D
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why?
[02:07] <HymnToLife> oh
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the script is very simple but i think i  put some errors
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you take a look?
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> bash syntax errors
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> pastebin
[02:07] <HymnToLife> hmm maybe I'm not very good at it though
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/BKZg3y87.html
[02:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's veery simple
[02:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i didn't use it for 2 years
[02:08] <HymnToLife> I don't remmber it right now
[02:08] <HymnToLife> but in man firefox you will surely have the comand to open in a new tab
[02:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in the script there's already all i need
[02:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's a bash error
[02:10] <HymnToLife> I can't help you with it sorry
[02:11] <HymnToLife> see in #ubuntu
[02:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[02:18] <Captainbraille> HymnToLife, it still doesn't mount automatically, and when I use 'sudo mount /dev/hdd' the cdrom drive won't open
[02:18] <HymnToLife> that's normal
[02:18] <Captainbraille> but I can use "sudo eject /dev/hdd" to eject =)
[02:18] <HymnToLife> you need to eject is (sudo eject /dev/hdd)
[02:18] <HymnToLife> or right click on the destop icon > eject
[02:19] <Captainbraille> okay, so that is normal
[02:19] <Captainbraille> is there anything else you can think of that may be a problem or that I should check?
[02:20] <HymnToLife> about the auto mounting ?
[02:20] <Captainbraille> what do you mean?
[02:20] <HymnToLife> no, sorry :/
[02:21] <Captainbraille> thats fine, at least not I know how to make it load =) Thanks for the help Hymn
[02:21] <HymnToLife> you're welcome :)
[02:22] <Kyral> Whee my mailserver works :D
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i still have problems with my script
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can take a look?
[02:48] <HymnToLife> I still can't help you ;)
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/RLBCR863.html
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:10] <pestilence> i switched from ubuntu to kubuntu (gnome -> kde), and when i reboot, if i don't run "gnome-theme-manager" once in KDE, all of the fonts are very large in apps such as 1) Firefox, 2) Konsole and 3) evolution.  does anybody know why this is and how to fix it?
[03:11] <robotgeek> pestilence: try setting it in System Settings -> Appearance -> gtk icons
[03:11] <pestilence> is this in kde?
[03:12] <robotgeek> yes
[03:13] <pestilence> ahhh
[03:13] <pestilence> hope that works :)
[03:13] <pestilence> under "gtk styles and fonts", it was set to "use another font"
[03:13] <HymnToLife> didn't work much for me...
[03:14] <pestilence> so i changed it to "use my kde fonts in gtk apps"
[03:15] <HkS-3207> helo
[03:18] <pestilence> only way to know if this worked is to reboot, so...off i go
[03:23] <narg> How would you set special windows settings in kwin if its forced to be maximized... :/
[03:24] <pestilence> no such luck :-(
[03:25] <robotgeek> narg: right click -> advanced -> special application/window setting
[03:25] <narg> see now, thats my problem
[03:26] <narg> there is no border to do that on :p
[03:26] <narg> and there is no way to get one...
[03:26] <robotgeek> narg: ah, sweet :)
[03:27] <narg> heh, a move that lacked forsight on my part.
[03:28] <robotgeek> narg: i think it's called kwin or something, i am not sure
[03:28] <narg> yea, that is the window manager. Do you think dcop would work to set it?
[03:29] <HkS-3207> can you install the packages in the system, after you got the core system installed on it ?
[03:29] <pestilence> HkS-3207, if you like.
[03:30] <HkS-3207> how ?
[03:30] <HkS-3207> :x
[03:30] <HkS-3207> i get an error with some packages
[03:30] <HkS-3207> at installation time
[03:30] <pestilence> HkS-3207, what is the error
[03:30] <HkS-3207> somehow it was unable to copy the file
[03:30] <HkS-3207> cd may be corrupted or disk may be full
[03:30] <robotgeek> narg: kwin_rules_dialog --help
[03:30] <HkS-3207> but is a 20gb hd, so i think its the disc
[03:30] <narg> robotgeek: thanks :)
[03:30] <pestilence> HkS-3207, what command did you run, and what error did you get
[03:30] <HymnToLife> HkS-3207> have you checked your CD ?
[03:30] <HkS-3207> pestilence,  installing
[03:30] <HkS-3207> HymnToLife,  dont know how to do that
[03:31] <pestilence> HkS-3207, if you have the network, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use it
[03:31] <pestilence> !sources
[03:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:31] <pestilence> well, that's not exactly what i wanted.
[03:31] <pestilence> !repositories
[03:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:31] <pestilence> bah.
[03:31] <HkS-3207> lol
[03:31] <HymnToLife> HkS-3207> md5sum the ISO and burn at low speed
[03:32] <HymnToLife> then if you're paranoid, md5sum the burned disc
[03:32] <robotgeek> !verify
[03:32] <ubotu> hmm... verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:32] <robotgeek> maybe that ^
[03:32] <HkS-3207> mm
[03:32] <HkS-3207> but i got it on win..
[03:32] <HymnToLife> you can md5sum on win too
[03:32] <HymnToLife> !md5sum
[03:32] <ubotu> from memory, md5sum is to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:32] <HkS-3207> o wow lol
[03:33] <HkS-3207> how do i do it on a burned disk ?
[03:33] <HkS-3207> :d
[03:33] <narg> robotgeek: any idea how to find the window id?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> HkS-3207> you have to create an ISO out of it
[03:33] <HkS-3207> im trying to install it on a ibook
[03:33] <HkS-3207> HymnToLife, i burned from an iso
[03:33] <HymnToLife> yeah
[03:34] <HymnToLife> but it _might_ be corrupted during burning especially if you burn at high speed
[03:34] <HkS-3207> oh
[03:34] <HkS-3207> mayb..
[03:34] <HymnToLife> many people burned from a good ISO and ended with bad CDs
[03:34] <HymnToLife> for whatever reason
[03:34] <robotgeek> narg: xwininfo
[03:34] <HkS-3207> how come
[03:34] <bimberi> HkS-3207: does the partial install boot and get a working net connection?
[03:34] <HymnToLife> HkS-3207> because zero risk does not exist
[03:35] <HymnToLife> even when you burn at 4x
[03:35] <HkS-3207> bimberi,  no network
[03:35] <bimberi> HkS-3207: kk :|
[03:35] <HkS-3207> HymnToLife,  and that is.. ?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> ?
[03:36] <HkS-3207> oh nvm
[03:36] <HkS-3207> wrong line
[03:38] <narg> robotgeek: so, doing kwin_rules_dialog --wid 0xdeafbeef just gives me a should not be called directly error. Am I missing something?
[03:39] <HkS-3207> kubuntu should develop something that could be able to check installation disks's before installing
[03:39] <HkS-3207> that way you could be sure that them cd's work
[03:40] <Random_Transit> hey...I'm having trouble installing drivers for my printer
[03:40] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: it's there on the cd, actually
[03:41] <HkS-3207> oh
[03:41] <HkS-3207> where
[03:41] <HkS-3207> i didnt saw that part when going through the installation
[03:41] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: it should be at the bottom of the options
[03:41] <HkS-3207> didn't saw it
[03:42] <Random_Transit> it's a lexmark z700
[03:42] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: it's there, i am not sure how to explain :)
[03:42] <HkS-3207> check the cd-rom integrity ?
[03:43] <HkS-3207> i'm going to burn another disk at a low speed
[03:43] <HkS-3207> cuz this one was burned at 50x
[03:43] <HkS-3207> maybe 12 will be ok
[03:43] <HkS-3207> ill be back :)
[03:49] <narg> robotgeek: heh, those tools ended up being annoying, so I just hand-edited the rc file :p
[04:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[04:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody ever tried win4lin?
[04:32] <frank23> nope is that an emulator?
[04:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[04:33] <frank23> like wine?
[04:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they tell is as fast as running windows in local
[04:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[04:33] <Thedek> I prefer to just use VMWare Player for anything that requires Windows.
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> vmware is SLOW....
[04:34] <me2win> Thedek, can you use photoshop undewr vmware?
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> vmware is windows.
[04:34] <Thedek> Yup
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the only problem is that you need to COMPLETELY run windows and linux at the same time
[04:34] <Thedek> I don't think it's that slow, honestly.
[04:34] <me2win> if youve got windows installed already, can you use your existing install? like from another partition
[04:35] <frank23> Tallia1Kubuntu: what is win4lin exactly? a virtual machine running windows?
[04:35] <Thedek> I don't believe so, but there might be a way to convert an installed instance into a VMWare instance.
[04:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it works over qemu
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Thedek: there's but it's risky as they said
[04:36] <frank23> yeah you need a Windows 2000 license to run win4lin
[04:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> frank23: yes,,
[04:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> as you need a windows* licence to run an istance of windows under vmware
[04:39] <frank23> Tallia1Kubuntu: so its equivalent to running windows in vmware
[04:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think vmware is slow
[04:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it have to use virtual drives..
[04:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that is file system caching is not used
[04:40] <Thedek> Actually, it looks like you can use qemu-img to create a vm image of an existing drive or partition.
[04:40] <Thedek> Tallia1Kubuntu: I don't run Windows for speed, I run it because I have some apps that I can't escape. =P
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me too
[04:40] <Thedek> And then I kill it as soon as possible, heh.
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but mine is quite unusable.. extremely slow
[04:40] <frank23> Tallia1Kubuntu: win4lin doesn't have a virtual drive?
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no, i think is like wine
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it use the linux FS
[04:41] <Thedek> How big is your VMware instance of windows, Tallia?
[04:41] <frank23> Tallia1Kubuntu: can windows apps in win4lin access usb and other hardware?
[04:41] <narg> Tallia1Kubuntu: nerp. VMware totally clones stuff.
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Thedek: what do you mean?
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the file?
[04:41] <Thedek> Yeah
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the virtual disk file?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> around 4 GB
[04:42] <frank23> Tallia1Kubuntu: wine is different. it doesn't contain any Microsoft code, and it can't run all windows apps?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the basic installation + acrobat pro + maple10
[04:42] <narg> frank23: Wine is a free reimplementation of the win32 api. It isn't an emulator.
[04:42] <Thedek> Yeah, I found a WinXPPro+SP2 installation with no other software hit 4 GB all by its lonesome.
[04:42] <Thedek> Tallia1Kubuntu: How much physical memory in your box and how much are you allowing VMWare to use?
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Thedek: i have 512
[04:43] <Thedek> How much do you let VMware use?
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i put the scroller on the vmware suggested one
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me check......
[04:43] <frank23> i give vmware machines 256 MBs and I have 1GB ram total
[04:43] <Thedek> Yeah, I'd almost say that's it.  I have 1GB ram in my boxen and give VMware 256 to 512.
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow.. that's a lots of memory :)
[04:43] <Thedek> WinXP doesn't really like anything less than 256.
[04:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wait .. i just updated the kernel
[04:44] <Thedek> erp, I lied... I have 2GB in this box... forgot I updated it. =P
[04:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrr
[04:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like too
[04:44] <Thedek> Yeah, I gave VMware 512 of memory and it seemed happy.
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me make some test
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> s
[04:46] <Thedek> You can try it just by changing memsize = "512" in your vmx file.
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok started
[04:46] <Thedek> or to whatever you want to let it have.
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have only 512
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :( i can't do that
[04:46] <Thedek> Ahh, gotcha.
[04:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but it's a new thing
[04:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it used to run in a good way till few months ago
[04:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhhh
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think the kernel 386 -> 686 upgrade of the last week have been good accepted by vmware
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it seems it is working faster
[04:49] <Thedek> Cool =)
[04:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow
[04:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this is fast
[04:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and runs perfectly with 179MB
[04:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> of memory with vmware
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Thedek: aha
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my vmware windows
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is using only 77MB
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in windows task at least is says that
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i never saw windows requiring less than 120.. i dunno why :)
[04:59] <torz> hey could you guys help me with quota. I want to set the capacity of a specific directory to 100MB.
[05:10] <elzoona> ...
[05:10] <elzoona> Hay alguien?
[05:10] <elzoona> Anybody?
[05:11] <frank23> yeah
[05:11] <elzoona> Hello
[05:11] <elzoona> :-).
[05:11] <elzoona> Im testing Konversation.
[05:12] <me2win> howdy
[05:12] <elzoona> ?
[05:13] <me2win> ?
[05:13] <elzoona> What means " howdy "?
[05:13] <me2win> quieres chingasos? :D
[05:14] <elzoona> :-).
[05:14] <elzoona> No se que es, pero no por las dudas...:-).
[05:14] <me2win> jaja
[05:14] <frank23> !es
[05:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <elzoona> Theres nobody at kubuntu-es...
[05:15] <me2win> "Howdy" es una palabra que significa "Hola" en ingles. Es una frase de Tejanos.
[05:17] <frank23> Tejanos = Texan?
[05:17] <me2win> frank23, yeah
[05:17] <elzoona> Ah, gracias.
[05:17] <me2win> of course its a phrase for all of the US kind of
[05:17] <me2win> but, the stereotype is texan
[05:17] <frank23> yeah
[05:18] <elzoona> oK.
[05:18] <me2win> elzoona, hay alguien en #ubuntu-es
[05:18] <me2win> pero no hablan mucho
[05:18] <elzoona> Igual esta bien, yo queria alguien asi como para charla un rato :-).
[05:20] <elzoona> Che...Por si o por no...Es un kilombo hacer un upgrade a KDE 3.5?
[05:24] <bimberi_> !kde3.5.1
[05:24] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[06:25] <HkS-3207> helo
[06:26] <HkS-3207> i dont know how to set up the resolution in kubuntu ppc on an apple iBook
[06:26] <HkS-3207> only available is 860xhelo ?
[06:26] <HkS-3207> loll my bad
[06:26] <HkS-3207> anybody here ?
[06:26] <HkS-3207> anybado ?
[06:27] <HkS-3207> anybody ?
[06:29] <Kyral> Night all
[06:29] <HkS-3207> night...
[06:30] <frank23> !fixres
[06:30] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:30] <frank23> I don't know anything about ppc so I hope this helps ;)
[06:30] <HkS-3207> thanks frank23
[06:52] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: is it a g3?
[06:53] <HkS-3207> iBook
[06:53] <HkS-3207> the wiki already helped me tho, but thanks for your interest
[06:54] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: cool. as long as it works, we don't have a problem
[06:54] <HkS-3207> thaks :)
[06:57] <HkS-3207> mm
[06:57] <HkS-3207> how do i set-up my netword card ?
[06:57] <HkS-3207> on an apple iBook
[06:57] <HkS-3207> running kubuntu....
[06:58] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: what wireless card?
[06:58] <HkS-3207> none, NIS
[06:58] <HkS-3207> is there a way it could kind of auto-detect it or something like that
[06:59] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: lspci -v
[06:59] <HkS-3207> should i do that with sudo ?
[07:00] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: no need
[07:00] <frank23> HkS-3207: no. when you dont know if a command needs sudo, try without sudo. It will tell you if it needs more priviledges
[07:00] <HkS-3207> mm ok let me try
[07:06] <HkS-3207> robotgeek, could it be Host bridge ?
[07:06] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: nope
[07:06] <HkS-3207> o wow i dont find it :x
[07:07] <HkS-3207> lol
[07:07] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: si there someway you can paste it in the pastebin. i have an ibook too, so we can compare
[07:07] <HkS-3207> robotgeek, i could write it ?
[07:07] <HkS-3207> let me save it on a file first wait
[07:07] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: well no, i will post mine
[07:07] <HkS-3207> oh ok, thanks
[07:08] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: is it old or new? if new, try "lspci | grep broadcom"
[07:08] <HkS-3207> 2002
[07:08] <HkS-3207> nothing comes up
[07:09] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: do you know if you have an airport extreme card :)
[07:09] <HkS-3207> i have no clue
[07:09] <HkS-3207> the computer is from a friend of mine who wanted to throw it away cuz he messed up the system
[07:10] <HkS-3207> so i took it and now im trying to fix it for personal use
[07:10] <HkS-3207> it does have the port for the network integrades ( DHCP is port is available )
[07:10] <HkS-3207> but it wont show any devices corresponding to network
[07:10] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9847 is mine
[07:11] <HkS-3207> let me check
[07:13] <HkS-3207> aw shit i forgot i took off firefox to upgrade it and i forgot to do the upgrade h/o
[07:18] <HkS-3207> robotgeek,  im missing the network controller
[07:18] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: hmm, maybe you can buy one of those usb sticks
[07:20] <HkS-3207> robotgeek,  what do u mean ?
[07:20] <robotgeek> HkS-3207:oh, you mean you don't even have a ethernet in there?
[07:21] <C-O-L-T> Somebody can help to me? How can I send messages on irc, I mean to everybody on  a server. A kind of flood
[07:21] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: hmm, i am not sure why you would want to do that :)
[07:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[07:21] <HkS-3207> robotgeek,  i do got an ethernet port
[07:21] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: exactly why would you want to do such a thing?
[07:21] <HkS-3207> but obviously the controller ain't working
[07:22] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: hmm, try ifconfig
[07:22] <HkS-3207> is there any other alternative ?
[07:22] <HkS-3207> i tried
[07:22] <HkS-3207> it worked fine the mother f****
[07:22] <HkS-3207> :D
[07:22] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: we have a channel in our city, so a city channel, just to spread linux :))
[07:22] <HkS-3207> but still when i do lspci | grep Eth nothing would come up
[07:22] <Hobbsee> HkS-3207: case sensitive, i think
[07:22] <Hobbsee> usually it comes up as eth
[07:22] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: try ifconfig
[07:23] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: you know kind of advertisement for kubuntu / ubuntu, linux in generally
[07:23] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: people here really don't know much about it
[07:23] <HkS-3207> Hobbsee,  didnt worked neither
[07:23] <HkS-3207> robotgeek,  it worked...
[07:23] <HkS-3207> let me unplug this cable
[07:23] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: yes it is
[07:23] <HkS-3207> and try some troubleshooting with it connected
[07:23] <HkS-3207> ill be back
[07:24] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: no one appreciates spam but if you get one you have to look at it
[07:25] <Hobbsee> not necessarily - i dont look at all my spam, in my email.  IRC can be different though
[07:25] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: if you really insist upon doing it, you'll probably need to ask google how to do it...
[07:25] <Hobbsee> i dont know the answer, myself
[07:25] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I am asking google right now :)))
[07:26] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: be sure not to do it on freenode, cause you'll probably never come back :)
[07:28] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: they can not recognize me, I have a got a cool program, hides your ip, and it is a bot :D
[07:29] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: i warn you, if you do this on freenode, they will make SURE that you get klined, or eqivalent
[07:29] <HkS3207> o wow
[07:29] <HkS3207> i definetly got no network on that laptop
[07:29] <frank23> how do I run the new user wizard in kde again? I want to change the shortcut profile
[07:29] <HkS3207> is there some usb network adapter or something like that ?
[07:30] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: anyway it is not freenode, it is undernet
[07:30] <robotgeek> HkS-3207: what did your friend do? insert the power jack in ethernet port
[07:30] <HkS3207> looks like it
[07:30] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: you're choice - but they'll probably ban you from there too
[07:30] <HkS3207> is there a way to do an alternate solution tho ?
[07:31] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I get a lot of stupid things from others through freenode, and t is spam
[07:31] <Hobbsee> what, from lilo?  or others?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> if it's from others, then that's a singular message, not to entire freenode
[07:33] <Hobbsee> and, you can put others onto ignore, if you really want to
[07:33] <HkS3207> do anybody knows if there is some USB NIC Card ?
[07:33] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: is it from users like klhgkdjhgd
[07:33] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: that is not a real user
[07:34] <HkS3207> How i love ebay  :D
[07:34] <HkS3207> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-10-100-Ethernet-network-LAN-NIC-Adapter-to-RJ45_W0QQitemZ5874137370QQcategoryZ11182QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[07:34] <sampan> spam on freenode?  i think i got one spam msg joining #ubuntu about 2 months ago -- never had a single other spam msg here
[07:35] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: so you intend to exacerbate the problem, rather than doing something useful about it.  hmmm.
[07:35] <Hobbsee> sampan: and some from lilo about the exploit, yeah
[07:35] <sampan> undernet is a different stories -- there are secret bot channels there, with literally hundreds of zombies joining and parting -- very weird
[07:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T: register your nic then
[07:35] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: I am registered
[07:36] <Hobbsee> not here, you're not
[07:36] <Hobbsee> not according to your details
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just checked ;)
[07:36] <sampan> hobbsee  ahhhh, i guess i don't consider useful server-info "spam" -- they have those on undernet too (notices about user classes, etc.)
[07:36] <Hobbsee> sampan: true - i was meaning notices in general, but yeah :)
[07:36] <Hobbsee> you'r eright
[07:36] <Hobbsee> and my brain is semi-fried
[07:36] <HkS3207> lol
[07:36] <HkS3207> how come my nick wont die
[07:36] <HkS3207> :x
[07:37] <Hobbsee> hehe thanks
[07:37] <sampan> np :P
[07:37] <HkS3207> what time is it :x
[07:37] <me2win> Hobbsee, I got unbant! :D
[07:37] <HkS3207> ooooooooooh crap
[07:37] <HkS3207> i gotta go to sleep
[07:37] <Hobbsee> me2win: yay!
[07:37] <HkS3207> i got CAPT test tomorrow :x
[07:37] <sampan> hks3207  what time it is depends on where you are...
[07:38] <HkS3207> EST
[07:38] <HkS3207> 01:31
[07:38] <HkS3207> a.m.
[07:38] <robotgeek> !enter
[07:38] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:38] <HkS3207> mad late, and i gotta wake up at 6:30 tomorrow cuz i gotta try this crap in school to see how it goes with the wireless signal
[07:38] <HkS3207> ill be back later Outz!
[07:38] <HkS3207> Peace!!
[07:38] <sampan> ;)  if you use my clock (PST, it's only 10:36), then you won't have to go to sleep yet
[07:38] <HkS3207> thx for everything :)
[07:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[07:38] <sampan> later
[07:38] <HkS3207> night
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sampan: and EST here is about 17:40
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. not sampan, HkS3207
[07:40] <sampan> lol -- yeah, even the E is dependent on which continent one is on -- so much relativity!  :D
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[07:41] <GullyFoyle> oh god ther's so much blinking text and cr** on dalnet and efnet and those other lamenets
[07:57] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I give up, it is harder than I thought. I can get an easy to use tool and anyway I can not get any useful program neither for linux nor for windows. In google I get just anti-spam programs, I tried in  a lot of ways to search for it but nothing useful
[07:57] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:58] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: Next time when somebody spams I write back, hopefully he or she will write back to me
[07:58] <Hobbsee> true
[07:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T: remember it's a notice, so it may not 'just reply'
[07:59] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: probably you are right
[08:07] <fatejudger> what is up with ALSA and not being able to accept multiple sound streams?
[08:08] <fatejudger> it's broken in Dapper
[08:08] <fatejudger> it worked a week ago
[08:23] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: ping
[08:23] <fatejudger> Hobbsee
[08:23] <Hobbsee> hey fatejudger
[08:23] <fatejudger> can you run multiple sound streams in the latest Dapper?
[08:23] <fatejudger> I think they broke it
[08:23] <fatejudger> I tried filing a bug
[08:24] <fatejudger> no response
[08:24] <Hobbsee> bug #?
[08:24] <fatejudger> damn
[08:24] <fatejudger> I'm not sure I recorded that
[08:26] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: it's under my username, fatejudger
[08:26] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: if you can search by username
[08:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uhee.. gmail doesn't allow HTML
[08:29] <fatejudger> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/33736
[08:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i did a fancy signature and now i can't use it
[08:29] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/33736
[08:30] <fatejudger> Tallia1Kubuntu: are you sure?
[08:30] <fatejudger> Tallia1Kubuntu: it should
[08:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[08:30] <fatejudger> Tallia1Kubuntu: seems weird for it not to
[08:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just tried
[08:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :(
[08:31] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: how to reproduce?  play something in amarok, and use sounds from knotify at the same time?
[08:32] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: yeah
[08:32] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: make sure amarok is using ALSA
[08:32] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: whether it be Gstreamer + ALSA or Xine + ALSA
[08:32] <Hobbsee> yep, gotcha
[08:33] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: both are playing at the same time - sounds horrible though
[08:33] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: weird
[08:33] <Hobbsee> very
[08:33] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: you don't even need KDE to reproduce the bug
[08:33] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: just try using ALSA in two different apps
[08:34] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: it's weird
[08:34] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: done by playing an mp3 with amarok, using xine engine with alsa, and "test sound" in system settings
[08:34] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: try playing an mp3 in amarok and an mp3 in kaffeine or something
[08:34] <Hobbsee> ok
[08:35] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: eww!
[08:35] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: funny how I can't even initialize the sound driver but you can at least play it
[08:35] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: my first reaction was that dmix was broken in ALSA
[08:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I don't know if that could be the cause now that I know you can play two streams
[08:36] <Hobbsee> gosh it sounds bad lol!
[08:36] <fatejudger> lol, yeah
[08:36] <eob84> hi, I am trying to get my /usr and /home directory on the same partition and I really don't know how to do this
[08:36] <fatejudger> I can get around the problem by disabling sound in KDE
[08:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: or by playing songs with ARTS
[08:36] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: very weird.  have you tried with a new user?
[08:37] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: but arts is horrible
[08:37] <Hobbsee> true
[08:37] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: no, I haven't actually
[08:37] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: would that really make a difference though?
[08:37] <fatejudger> this isn't something that's KDE configurable
[08:37] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: worht a try - there was something in my profile that would stop my wireless card from working when logging into kde - got no idea what it was, but a new user didnt have that problem at all
[08:37] <fatejudger> especially since we've removed KDE from the equation
[08:38] <Hobbsee> yeah, well i didnt think my network was either!
[08:38] <fatejudger> yeah, but that was a KDE problem
[08:38] <fatejudger> I guess I can try
[08:38] <Hobbsee> somehow, yeah
[08:39] <fatejudger> adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[08:39] <fatejudger> ok, brb
[08:40] <eob84> anyone know how I can get the usr directory and the home directory on their own partition?
[08:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey?
[08:40] <eob84> hi
[08:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i get a KDE kicker style similar to this?
[08:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/bunny5qy.png
[08:43] <_mindspin> eob84 You want to install or did you already?
[08:44] <eob84> I did allready
[08:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i get a KDE kicker style similar to this?
[08:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://tallia1.myftp.org/shared-folder/bunny5qy.png
[08:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: do you know how?
[08:45] <_mindspin> the easyest way is to to it at installation
[08:45] <eob84> tell me how and I will re-install
[08:46] <_mindspin> you have space left on your harddisk?
[08:46] <eob84> well I don't want to seperate partitions for each
[08:46] <eob84> I wan't each folder to be on the same partition
[08:46] <_mindspin> during installation you will be asked wther you want to partition the harddisk
[08:46] <_mindspin> and nothing else?
[08:46] <eob84> yea
[08:46] <Hobbsee> hmmm what?
[08:46] <eob84> just /usr /home
[08:47] <eob84> it doesn't seem possible
[08:47] <_mindspin> afaik this is not possible
[08:47] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: that's really simple, IIRC
[08:47] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: it's a sad day for Dapper...
[08:47] <eob84> I guess I will just have to ln home to /usr/home
[08:47] <_mindspin> nope
[08:48] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: when one cannot enjoy the sounds of KDE and his music
[08:48] <eob84> that won't work either?
[08:48] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: even with a new user?
[08:48] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: even with a new user
[08:48] <_mindspin> it would but  it has nothing to do with partitions
[08:48] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I'm guessing you have some... connections?
[08:48] <eob84> I know
[08:48] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: in regards to what?
[08:48] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: perhaps you could speak to someone?
[08:48] <eob84> but it was the only solution I could find
[08:48] <Hobbsee> core kde devs?
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: to get the bug, shall we say, expedited?
[08:49] <eob84> I was just asking in case someone knew something I didn't
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: lol
[08:49] <_mindspin> why do you want this behaviour?
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I'm just messing with you
[08:49] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: but yeah, if you could ask someone about it
[08:49] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: not sure who's the best person to ask - but a lot of them would be asleep
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: yeah
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I didn't mean now
[08:49] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: whenever you get a chance
[08:50] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: just jot down a note or something, because obviously nobody has read my bug
[08:50] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: or they've disregarded it
[08:50] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: who'd you assign it to?
[08:50] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I can't assign bugs to anyone
[08:50] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I just report them
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: it's either another program, found on kde look, or a setting in configure panel, with the size
[08:51] <Hobbsee> i couldnt exactly reproduce it, but didnt try terribly hard
[08:51] <Hobbsee> maybe with the icon size as well, set in system settings
[08:52] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: why not?  anyone can assign anything anywhere
[08:52] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I figured I'd let the high-ups take care of that
[08:52] <fatejudger> *higher-ups
[08:52] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: anyway, I really have to go to bed
[08:52] <Hobbsee> ok
[08:52] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: thanks for your help though
[08:52] <Hobbsee> no problems
[08:52] <fatejudger> cya
[08:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a KDE-look RSS Feed?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: see about the middle of the page, left hand side
[08:57] <Hobbsee> under RDF feeds
[08:57] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming they work the same way
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: can I have a dock like in mac os/
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> ?
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: sorry for disturbing again
[08:59] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: kde-look.org - search for osx
[08:59] <Hobbsee> i think it may be called baghera, but i'm not sure on that one
[09:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wth is kde-files?
[09:00] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: thanks
[09:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: what's kde-files?
[09:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a RSS for kubuntu too?
[09:05] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: got no idea - does it show anything obvious?
[09:06] <Hobbsee> yes, it's at http://www.kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss
[09:08] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: easiest way to see what kde-files.org looks like - go check it out
[09:09] <Hobbsee> looks pretty cool
[09:09] <karat> Is there some way to see what files ar einstalled by a given package
[09:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: the fact is that in gmail i can add a feed only searching and selecting a result, isn't it?
[09:12] <Hobbsee> karat: apt-cache show packagename
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: got no idea - i dont use gmail for rss feeds
[09:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't know what they are really
[09:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they simply appeared on the top of my gmail :)
[09:15] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[09:16] <karat> Hobbsee|away: thanks
[09:37] <gameface> is there anyway to manual edit my kde system settins to turn my network on i can download the kde update so i can save my changes made in system settings?
[09:37] <mike> hi. i have a problem with kontact and i was wondering if someone could help me out. basically i was editing the filters and kontact crashed on me and could not start back again
[09:37] <mike> it looks like the kmail settings got corrupted somehow
[09:37] <mike> i've tried removing the package and the settings in my ~/.kde/shared....
[09:38] <mike> then i've tried reinstalling the package again but the problem did not go away
[09:39] <gameface> anyone else had the su kde system admin error?
[09:40] <_mindspin> you should use kdesu
[09:40] <mike> what is kdesu?
[09:40] <_mindspin> command kdesu programname
[09:41] <gameface> even when i run kdesu
[09:41] <mike> is that the same as sudo?
[09:41] <gameface> my sytem settings wont save
[09:41] <_mindspin> gameface: which kde do you have installed?
[09:41] <gameface> so i turn on my network
[09:41] <mike> oh nm
[09:41] <gameface> it doesnt turn on
[09:41] <gameface> which eva one came with kubuntu 5.10
[09:41] <gameface> i cant upgrade
[09:41] <_mindspin> why?
[09:41] <gameface> cuz i ant turn on my wireless network card
[09:41] <_mindspin> ic
[09:42] <gameface> so is tehr a manual way to edit it by
[09:42] <gameface> text editor
[09:42] <mike> haha i can help you with wire less network
[09:42] <mike> do you have drivers for the card?
[09:42] <gameface> not on the computer i need to get on
[09:42] <_mindspin> kdesu kate
[09:42] <mike> what kind of card is it?
[09:43] <gameface> pcmcia belkin
[09:43] <robotgeek> gameface: do you know what chipset?
[09:43] <C-O-L-T> How to have dock like in apple os X
[09:43] <C-O-L-T> ?
[09:43] <mike> does it have linux driver? if not you'll have to use ndiswrapper
[09:43] <gameface> yeah
[09:44] <gameface> it worked before
[09:44] <mike> (which is a standard package available from the ubuntu cd)
[09:44] <gameface> i had to reintall
[09:44] <_mindspin> "/etc/networking/interfaces"
[09:44] <gameface> see my network is off
[09:44] <gameface> i cant enable it
[09:44] <gameface> when i turn the card on
[09:44] <gameface> it goes right back off
[09:44] <robotgeek> gameface, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:44] <_mindspin> on commandline "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[09:45] <mike> ok then. i think there may be a problem with wireless configuration in kubuntu in general. did you try something like...
[09:45] <_mindspin> but I guess check the wireless issue first
[09:46] <mike> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'HomeRouter' mode Managed key restricted F7D134ED4AEADD3C94B58EEB86 commit
[09:46] <_mindspin> hehe
[09:46] <mike> (that's not my key)
[09:46] <mike> after that type
[09:46] <mike> sudo dhclient wlan0
[09:47] <gameface> thanx it stayed
[09:47] <gameface> no it didnt
[09:47] <gameface> shit
[09:47] <gameface> let me try that next command
[09:48] <_mindspin> isnt that F7.... the mac adresss?
[09:48] <mike> no that's WEP key
[09:48] <_mindspin> ic
[09:48] <_mindspin> I have no wireless ..
[09:49] <mike> if your wireless network is not encrypted just remove "key restricted F7...86"
[09:49] <_mindspin> "peoples net"
[09:49] <mike> i actually have to run those commands from a small script every time i log on
[09:50] <mike> lol something like that. or a wireless coffee shop
[09:50] <gameface> got ra0 instead of wlan
[09:50] <mike> ra0? wtf is that?
[09:50] <gameface> wireless
[09:50] <mike> type ifconfig
[09:51] <mike> ok
[09:51] <gameface> does show up
[09:51] <gameface> but when i got to network it does
[09:51] <gameface> n i turn it on before worked fine had to reinstall due to some other errors
[09:51] <gameface> its there a way i can enable it
[09:51] <robotgeek> gameface: cool, take a look at another howto to get this to work
[09:51] <mike> ifconfig is going to show you general interface settings regardless of whether your wireless is configured or not
[09:51] <gameface> fromthe terminal
[09:52] <mike> ok do something like
[09:52] <gameface> shows when u put ifconfig ra0
[09:52] <mike> 1. sudo ifdown ra0
[09:52] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500
[09:52] <mike> 2. sudo ifup ra0
[09:53] <gameface> those arent enabled
[09:53] <gameface> like none of my changes save
[09:53] <gameface> when i go to system setting n turn it on
[09:53] <mike> what do you mean "aren't enabled"?
[09:53] <gameface> under systemsettings
[09:53] <gameface> well maybe those should turn em on
[09:54] <gameface> told me inerfae ra0 not configured
[09:54] <gameface> interface*
[09:54] <mike> oh. i could never get my wireless settings to save in the system settings but i can still turn them on from the terminal
[09:55] <mike> when did it tell you that? on ifup?
[09:56] <gameface> on up it says unknnown interface
[09:56] <gameface> ra=ra0
[09:57] <mike> ok... let me ask you a stupid quetion: did you plug in the card before booting ubuntu?
[09:57] <gameface> yeah
[09:57] <mike> ok
[09:57] <gameface> ive use it before on kubuntu so i know it will work i think its more cuz the settings arent saving
[09:57] <gameface> when i turn on my network
[09:57] <gameface> taht wuz prolbem last time
[09:58] <gameface> it still says not running
[09:58] <gameface> when i check under network
[09:58] <gameface> let me check dis link
[09:58] <gameface> that robogeek
[09:58] <gameface> provided me wih
[09:58] <gameface> see if that helps
[09:58] <gameface> brb
[09:59] <mike> yeah try ifconfig ra0 up and then ifup and then ifdown
[09:59] <mike> that's what the article says
[10:02] <gameface> thanx
[10:02] <gameface> i think that worked
[10:04] <judgen> howdy
[10:05] <gameface> okay anyway i can manual set my inet address
[10:08] <mike> kool
[10:08] <mike> for address just do dhclient or if you want static ifconfig would do. good luck.
[10:15] <ubuntu> does anybody boot kubuntu with lilo?
[10:27] <verden> hi
[10:27] <farous> hi
[10:28] <verden> i've just installed Dapper
[10:29] <verden> is anyone here running dapper?
[10:29] <_mindspin> !dapper
[10:29] <ubotu> [dapper]  the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[10:31] <gameface> is there anyway i can dowanload the kubuntu desktop upgrade on another compuer n put on disc n put them on another?
[10:31] <gameface> i mean on a win xp system
[10:31] <gameface> n then install upgrade from dis
[10:31] <gameface> disc*
[10:32] <_mindspin> you depend on wireless ?
[10:32] <_mindspin> no networkcard at hand?
[10:32] <gameface> yEAH
[10:32] <gameface> everything is wireless
[10:33] <_mindspin> you could try to get the deb files
[10:33] <_mindspin> and install it by hand
[10:34] <_mindspin> or you could try to run knoppix live cd (maybe wireless will work) and download it to /home
[10:35] <_mindspin> btw. what update are you talking about?
[10:35] <_mindspin> kde?
[10:37] <gameface> yeh i tried that but i think i got an idea
[10:37] <gameface> brb
[10:44] <gameface> yeah
[10:44] <gameface> kde upgrade heard it fixes some of my problems
[10:45] <gameface> i think ill just downloa the ndiswrapper
[10:45] <gameface> n install the drivers
[11:12] <judgen> How do i force my screen to use 75hz?
[11:14] <Hobbsee> judgen: the option in system settings, display?
[11:14] <judgen> Hobbsee:  you mean kcontrol?
[11:15] <Hobbsee> judgen: either, yeah
[11:15] <Hobbsee> both work
[11:15] <judgen> 60hz max in the prefs
[11:15] <judgen> i can also select 43 hz =P
[11:16] <Hobbsee> i wonder if you have to set it in xorg.conf, or using !xcfg
[11:18] <judgen>         Option          "DPMS"
[11:18] <judgen>         HorizSync       30-60
[11:18] <judgen>         VertRefresh     50-75
[11:18] <Kingpomba> yay kubuntu torrent at 90%
[11:18] <judgen> Kingpomba: Have you not gotten further still?
[11:18] <Kingpomba> Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...
[11:18] <Kingpomba> No Factoid Match
[11:21] <judgen> Hobbsee:  i changed horiz to 31,63 and vert to 56-75
[11:21] <Hobbsee> ok, yep
[11:42] <Tonio_> hi !
[11:46] <visik7> repo for avidemux ?
[11:53] <judgen> how do i get the buttons of my remote wonder to work in ubuntu, it works by default on geexbox
[11:55] <vespa> hi all...
[11:55] <vespa> i need help
[11:56] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[11:56] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:57] <vespa> i want using firefox latest version, how to install in kubuntu?
[11:57] <HymnToLife> !tell vespa about ff1.5
[11:57] <judgen> I want to change the default font of wx how do i do this?
[11:57] <vespa> thanks for ur answer...
[11:58] <HymnToLife> you're wlcome
[12:03] <vespa> !tell me about libstdc++5
[12:07] <Kingpomba> !burn
[12:07] <ubotu> Kingpomba: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <Kingpomba> Factoid 'My cat's name' Created
[12:08] <HymnToLife> lmao
[12:08] <Kingpomba> :/
[12:09] <Kingpomba> stupid bot
[12:09] <Kingpomba> !cat
[12:09] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kingpomba
[12:09] <Kingpomba> ....:/
[12:09] <Kingpomba> !areyousmokingsomethingfunnysilicionchip?
[12:09] <ubotu> Kingpomba: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:09] <Kingpomba> Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...
[12:09] <Hobbsee> !botabuse
[12:09] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[12:10] <Kingpomba> No Factoid Match
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you trying to do Kingpomba?
[12:10] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: Kingpomba seems to be wanting to abuse the bot
[12:10] <HymnToLife> Kamping_Kaiser> I take it he's ripping off all ubotu's factoids
[12:10] <HymnToLife> this is BAD
[12:11] <Kingpomba> ... i asked it about burning .... he told me about a cat named mittens
[12:11] <HymnToLife> should we do some !ops ?
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[12:11] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: it'd be !kops
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kingpomba: what about burning?
[12:11] <Kingpomba> Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...
[12:11] <Kingpomba> No Factoid Match
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have to admit, an entry bout mittens...
[12:12] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: besides, i'm around, and can ban/kick/whatever
[12:12] <Kingpomba> i just typed Exclamation mark burn and it told me about a cat
[12:12] <Hobbsee> Kingpomba: it said it didnt know
[12:13] <Kingpomba> Factoid Not In Database, Asking Other Bots...
[12:13] <Hobbsee> Kingpomba: what did you want to burn?
[12:13] <Hobbsee> k3b's a good burner
[12:13] <HymnToLife> just in a funnier way
[12:13] <Kingpomba> Factoid Processing - Please Try Again In A Few Seconds
[12:13] <Kingpomba> No Factoid Match
[12:13] <Kingpomba> Kubuntu DVD iso
[12:13] <HymnToLife> on Windows ?
[12:13] <Kingpomba> huh i have a bot now?
[12:14] <Kingpomba> yeah
[12:14] <Kingpomba> not sure where i should burn it as ISO or Boot disc in nero
[12:14] <Hobbsee> burn it as in iso, i think
[12:14] <HymnToLife> just the iso
[12:15] <Kingpomba> cause i've had trouble before with other distros discs not working in bios
[12:15] <jackphil> dapper in vmware, no X. HELP!
[12:15] <Kingpomba> ... even though i set the boot order to CD > Hard drive
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> jackphil: what dapper? fight 4?
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *flight
[12:15] <Hobbsee> jackphil: startx?
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. actualy... fight would be right ;)
[12:15] <jackphil> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes, flight 4
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you get a black screen with "Login" or do you get a blue screen with X errors on it?
[12:17] <jackphil> Hobbsee: failed with info like "no vmware module"
[12:17] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[12:17] <Hobbsee> i dont know, sorry
[12:17] <jackphil> black screen with "Login"
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> jackphil: have you logged in?
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> if not do
[12:18] <jackphil> i've logged in. it's OK, but cant startx
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> jackphil: run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb
[12:21] <jackphil> Kamping: i'll try it later, thx
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ok
[12:28] <jackphil> can flight 4 install from harddisk?
[12:29] <vijay> hi everyone, i installed xine-ui, but i think there is a buffer problem, can any one help me in this issue??
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> jackphil: don't think so
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> vijay: ask, but i cant promise - i don't use xine
[12:33] <kameron> what's that gksudo like tool called for kde?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> kameron: kdesu
[12:34] <kameron> word Hobbsee
[12:35] <Hobbsee> hmm?
[12:37] <kameron> thank you is all i meant
[12:37] <vijay> Kamping_Kaiser: I installed mplayer also, but it is not displaying any movie in full screen
[12:38] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> vijay: mplayer? change the video mode to x11 IIRC
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl I'm afraid.
[12:39] <vijay> Kamping_Kaiser: and kaffine is displaying an error message that resource is busy
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sound?
[12:39] <vijay> Kamping_Kaiser: ok i'll change
[12:39] <kameron> vijay, or try xv i think
[12:39] <vijay> Kamping_Kaiser: no sound and nothing in kaffine player
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> as i said, bll. sorry :/
[12:40] <vijay> kameron:"xv" is a player??
[12:40] <kameron> vijay, no, driver for mplayer
[12:41] <vijay> kameron:ok
[12:42] <vijay> kameron:libxv1 is already installed!!
[12:42] <kameron> cool?
[12:51] <vijay> Kamping_Kaiser: still it is playing in small size, in full screen mode
[12:54] <dipnlik> hi all. my kubuntu machine is losing internet connection after about one minute. It is connected to a winxp machine. I use sudo dhclient, it reconnects, then disconnects again. Networking is fine. any ideas?
[12:58] <shiv> PLz comment if anybody knows this. I am stuck. I get this error when i start bibus: (python:8689): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[01:18] <lubo> hello, can anybody please tell me how can I download source code of my current kernel using apt tool?
[01:19] <spiritz> lubo : u should have a look at package kernel-headers
[01:21] <lubo> hi spiritz: currently i'm running on 2.6.15-17-686
[01:21] <lubo> and you are tolking about this?: linux-headers-2.6.15-17-686
[01:21] <spiritz> lubo : what version of "linux-kernel-headers"   is available in the repo?
[01:22] <spiritz> I am unable to query my apt-get right now but it looks like u found the right package
[01:22] <lubo> linux-headers-2.6.15-17-686 this is the one you are tallking about?
[01:22] <spiritz> yes
[01:23] <lubo> so I need to download this file?
[01:23] <spiritz> you need to install this package
[01:23] <spiritz> btw why do you need your kernel sources?
[01:24] <lubo> whant to compile it my self
[01:24] <lubo> why? :-)
[01:24] <spiritz> ok then you should go ahead and install that package
[01:25] <lubo> Need to get 7695kB of archives.
[01:25] <lubo> after unpacking 79.0MB
[01:25] <lubo> :-)
[01:25] <spiritz> :)
[01:26] <lubo> thanks spiritz !!!
[01:26] <spiritz> you r welcome; good luck compiling ur kernel
[01:27] <lubo> I have done that before but I alway download kernel from kernel.org :-))
[01:28] <spiritz> why the default ubuntu kernel doesn't fit ur needs?
[01:29] <visik7> anyone with dapper?
[01:29] <_mindspin> !dapper
[01:29] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[01:29] <lubo> no this is going to be excercise for my study.. i'm about to add ned system call to kernel:-))
[01:29] <mth`MAW> hi
[01:29] <lubo> ned -> new :-)
[01:30] <spiritz> lubo : ok :)
[01:30] <mth`MAW> I do have a little Prob
[01:30] <mth`MAW> lem
[01:30] <mth`MAW> I have a digikam, an usb-.Stick, and usb hd etc...
[01:30] <lubo> spiritz is there a way to easy migrate from grub to lilo?
[01:30] <spiritz> lubo : no clue
[01:31] <mth`MAW> The thing is, it depens how I plug this things into my computer, they get there mountpoints.
[01:31] <mth`MAW> That is bad for example for digikam or inkscape, if they take a look at mountpoint that may be not exists
[01:32] <mth`MAW> So is it soemhow possible to bind the external usb-device to a mount point?
[01:32] <lubo> BTW when you asked me if the current kernel does not fit my need the answer is : NO
[01:32] <mth`MAW> Anybody understood what I ment? (I do not think so... :))
[01:32] <lubo> still have a problem with soud card...
[01:33] <lubo> Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[01:33] <lubo> system recognize it properly however no sound
[01:34] <mth`MAW> kde?
[01:34] <mth`MAW> gnome?
[01:34] <spiritz> lubo : command such as echo "lkjmlkjmlkjmlkjm" > /dev/dsp won't make any noise?
[01:35] <lubo> spiritz: after first installation sound was ok... but after couple apt-get upgrade I have a problem no soud at all:-))
[01:35] <lubo> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:35] <spiritz> lubo : sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[01:36] <lubo> lsof /dev/dsp  ==> no output  !!
[01:37] <lubo> any ideas? :-)
[01:38] <visik7> which program stuck with oss only ?
[01:38] <spiritz> lubo : u should try to shutdown sound deamon then echo some text to ur sound card
[01:38] <spiritz> lubo : is arts running ? ps aux|grep arts
[01:39] <lubo> arts is running ==> and twice:-)
[01:40] <lubo> lubo      4885  1.0  0.7  12048  6800 ?        SL   23:11   0:17 /usr/bin/artsd -F 128 -S 8192 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[01:40] <spiritz> lubo : kill it : pkill arts
[01:40] <lubo> lubo      4890  0.0  0.1  10592  1644 ?        Ss   23:11   0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 128 -S 8192 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[01:41] <lubo> spiritz now it look better..
[01:41] <lubo> let me try it:-))
[01:41] <spiritz> lubo : echo "mlkjmlkj" > /dev/dsp still returns busy?
[01:42] <lubo> : its better I tried that already:-)) now xmms :-))
[01:42] <spiritz> lubo : the echo command should output some noise from ur speakers
[01:42] <sebbar> hey does anybody know if the cups problem (can't connect to local cups server) has been fixed by know?
[01:42] <lubo> top stuff man... all working now:-))
[01:42] <lubo> so happy;-))
[01:43] <lubo> what was the problem?
[01:43] <sebbar> lots of users being unable to set up locally attached usb printers on kupuntu/ubuntu dapper
[01:43] <spiritz> Lubo : I guess you did not configure properly your sound configuration
[01:43] <mth`MAW> sebbar: Please help me too :)
[01:43] <_mindspin> !dapper
[01:43] <ubotu> I heard dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[01:44] <sebbar> yeah I know, but a lot of people ore getting kinda pissed since the  bug is critical and it was out since like december or so, but none of the devs made a statement on the forums or anything
[01:45] <sebbar> thought I'd ask here as well
[01:45] <lubo> I will do some changes and see... thanks a lot for help spiritz:-))
[01:46] <_mindspin> sebbar: yo've read what ubotu said, its Developement Software
[01:46] <DjDarkman> hi i want to buy an usb mouse ,will it be hard ,to use it in kubuntu/
[01:46] <spiritz> lubo: ur should get an "output-plugin" for xmms that enable arts support; btw why using xmms why u can use juke or amarok?
[01:46] <DjDarkman> ?
[01:46] <spiritz> DjDarkman: no, not at all, just plug it
[01:47] <DjDarkman> and X will just detect it and use it?
[01:47] <spiritz> yes
[01:48] <lubo> amarok did not play well...
[01:48] <lubo> from some reasons:-))
[01:48] <_heady> lubo: agree, amarok is shit
[01:49] <_heady> kaffeine too
[01:49] <spiritz> lubo : amarok has been awarded award for best player lately... I don't think a shit program deserve such a price.
[01:49] <spiritz> Heady_: what are u arguments regarding amarok being shitty?
[01:50] <Heady_> why ?? because after istall of kubuntu, it did not play mp3
[01:50] <hatake_kakashi> Heady_: thats got nothing to do with amaroK
[01:50] <Heady_> i installed xmms, clicked play and everything went ok
[01:50] <lubo> koffeine also did not play well .. every 10 seconds it stops play for while and then continued:-)
[01:50] <HymnToLife> amarok kicks ass :/
[01:51] <hatake_kakashi> Heady_: in RH8, there is no mp3 support for xmms, you had to either recompile the source or get the file somewhere else
[01:51] <spiritz> Heady_: maybe with a little research u could have made it work...; you're definately missing something ;)
[01:51] <HymnToLife> best player ever though I miss some iTunes functionnality
[01:51] <lubo> but this problem can be easily related to my wrong soound card configuration:-))
[01:51] <visik7> lubo: dunno what fu***ng crap of settings u have kaffeine and amarok works almost perfectly form e
[01:51] <Heady_> btw, kubuntu in general really made me angry cause after install it couldnt play anything
[01:51] <spiritz> Heady_: assuming a software is shit because it was not working for u is very nasty towards the nice people  who have been working on it; instead u should report the bug;
[01:51] <visik7> Heady_: RTFM
[01:51] <HymnToLife> Heady_> it could
[01:52] <visik7> Heady_: mp3 is patented
[01:52] <Heady_> including avi, mp3, mpg
[01:52] <HymnToLife> just because you didn't enable it doesn't mean it cannnot be
[01:52] <Heady_> i installed vlc and everying is working fine
[01:52] <visik7> Heady_: are u here to flame ?
[01:53] <Heady_> damn, why should i do something extra to just play something
[01:53] <spiritz> Heady_: did u report bugs to amarok, or try at least for a few minutes to make it work out looking at google?
[01:53] <Heady_> visik7: no, im just saying what i think
[01:53] <spiritz> Heady_: I think your behavior is gay
[01:53] <visik7> aahah
[01:53] <Heady_> spiritz: i tried
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> Heady_: you should be thankful that there is mp3 support around, its just not built-in. If you want to blame, don't go around putting blame on OS. Put the blame on RIAA/MPAA/etc
[01:54] <spiritz> Heady_: then I guess you suck; but please don't clam amarok is shit because you cannot make it work out
[01:54] <HymnToLife> +1,000,000 spiritz
[01:55] <spiritz> Heady_: instead you should ask nicely help in #amaork
[01:55] <visik7> spiritz: and I would add st***d fu****g as***le
[01:55] <spiritz> lol
[01:55] <hatake_kakashi> zomg! linux does not support writing to NTFS! therefore mount must suck! :p
[01:56] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: asd to be honest linux write ntfs from 2.6.15
[01:56] <spiritz> anyway linux sucks, there's not start button
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: I was trying to point out where the blame should go to
[01:56] <spiritz> s/not/no
[01:56] <visik7> spiritz: :)
[01:56] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: just kiddingh
[01:56] <HymnToLife> spiritz> and besides linux is free
[01:56] <HymnToLife> how can anything that is free be good ?
[01:57] <spiritz> HymnToLife: that must be the reason why it sucks so much
[01:57] <spiritz> :)
[01:57] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: heh
[01:57] <HymnToLife> lmao
[01:57] <spiritz> HymnToLife: people are unable to get money from it so there have no other choice but to give it out free ;)
[01:57] <visik7> linux has no cost so it must suck, how give software that works well for free ?
[01:58] <spiritz> I think now we fully agree with you Heady_
[01:58] <HymnToLife> I know why
[01:58] <HymnToLife> linux people are just too dumb to add serial number protections
[01:58] <HymnToLife> the kind no one ever cracks :D
[01:58] <allee> mth`MAW: define two or more directory browse entries one for mount point
[01:59] <visik7> HymnToLife: linux users doesn't know what astalavista is so they are not smart
[01:59] <allee> mth`MAW: before 0.8.1 we tried hard to get media:/ support into digikam, but failed :(
[01:59] <Heady_> spiritz: damn man, look, i absolutely new to linux, i wanted a user friendly distribution  so a friend gave me kubuntu, i installed it, wanted to play something and it wasnt working
[01:59] <Heady_> so how can somebody new to an os
[01:59] <Heady_> start fixing bugs from a fresh install ??
[02:00] <HymnToLife> Heady_> Windows is very idiot-friendly I think
[02:00] <HymnToLife> and everything works right out of the box
[02:00] <spiritz> Heady_: There's no problem in being a newbie, how ever I have a problem when u say amarok is shit; However I  am still pleased to help u out with ur amarok
[02:00] <Heady_> HymnToLife: i have to disagree
[02:00] <HymnToLife> and this is NOT a bug
[02:01] <HymnToLife> read the wiki page about restricted formats before telling nonsense
[02:01] <Heady_> ok, so how to fix it ???
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> Heady_: its not a bug just because they didn't include mp3 support by default. OS has the right to do that because they don't want to be threatened by authorities/patient holders
[02:01] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[02:01] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[02:01] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:01] <Heady_> btw, i visited ubuntuguide.org installed something what it saied but still nothing
[02:01] <HymnToLife> !ubuntuguide
[02:01] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:02] <spiritz> Heady_: have u been able to figure out whether it's a sound deamon or it is a codec problem? like are u able to play wav files for instance?
[02:03] <HymnToLife> spiritz> he said he can play them with VLC
[02:03] <HymnToLife> so it's just codecs I guess
[02:03] <hatake_kakashi> !info w32codecs
[02:03] <hatake_kakashi> !info w32codec
[02:03] <HymnToLife> !tekll hatake_kakashi about w32codecs
[02:03] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <spiritz> HymnToLife: Ok but his vlc might be not using arts while amarok is stuck on trying to use arts; but your point is very good, he should look this way first
[02:03] <HymnToLife> !tell hatake_kakashi about w32codecs
[02:04] <hatake_kakashi> HymnToLife: heh thanks, I was trying to see if it would output it out from the repos. Maybe it still hasn't been added to the repos
[02:04] <HymnToLife> it won't ever be in the repos
[02:05] <HymnToLife> it's non free software
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> oh well, now I know :)
[02:05] <HymnToLife> no problem :)
[02:06] <HymnToLife> as long as you don't come saying xine is bullshit all over the place
[02:06] <HymnToLife> because it can't play WMVs :D
[02:07] <hatake_kakashi> heh, different people = different tastes :) I somewhat like mplayer, but the CLI interface for that program will take awhile to get used to :)
[02:08] <Heady_> spiritz: damn amarok always freezes, it seems that i will stay with xmms, im used to winamp from windows, have lo leave, going to university, but i will come again
[02:08] <spiritz> Heady_: ok, see you around then
[02:08] <HymnToLife> hatake_kakashi> there's a GUI for mplayer
[02:09] <hatake_kakashi> HymnToLife: yeah gmplayer, etc. However if I can try and stick to the CLI as much as possible, I guess that'd be nice too :)
[02:09] <HymnToLife> for me it's VLC all the way though :p
[02:09] <spiritz> Heady_: you should have a look at the "engine" tab in amarok configuration, I think ur configuration is wrong there
[02:09] <HymnToLife> yeah, good thing to dothe CLI is your best linux friend after frozen bubble
[02:09] <visik7> HymnToLife: do u use vlc ?
[02:09] <lubo> guys is there a chance that this card http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5874630425#ebayphotohosting will be supported by my dapper?
[02:10] <HymnToLife> visik7> yes
[02:10] <dipnlik> hi all. my kubuntu machine is losing internet connection after about one minute. It is connected to a winxp machine. I use sudo dhclient, it reconnects, then disconnects again. Networking is fine. any ideas?
[02:10] <visik7> is gtk1 how can u set the font size of gtk1 apps ?
[02:10] <Heady_> spiritz: i tried every engine, btw, i updated and upgraded the whole system, including kernel
[02:10] <visik7> dipnlik: put dhclient in crond
[02:10] <HymnToLife> dipnlik> I'd think it's a misconfigurtion of your XP
[02:10] <HymnToLife> do you use builtin ICS ?
[02:11] <spiritz> Heady_: is amarok crashing if u set engine to "no engine " ?:)
[02:11] <dipnlik> HymnToLife, yes
[02:11] <HymnToLife> hmmm
[02:11] <HymnToLife> always worked like a charm for me
[02:11] <dipnlik> HymnToLife, worked fine here until we moved
[02:12] <HymnToLife> lmao spiritz you're a nut :p
[02:12] <spiritz> dipnlik: why don't u set ur network card to fixed ip instead of dynamic one?
[02:12] <Heady_> spiritz: no
[02:12] <cycus_zwisus> women: all the best!!!
[02:13] <spiritz> Heady_: then you have a sound deamon problem; is arts runnning on ur comp ? [ps aux|grep arts] ; is it able to play something ? [artsplay /home/me/somefile.mp3]  ; are u using arts in amarok ? if no, install the amarok-arts package.
[02:13] <dipnlik> visik7, how do i do that? should i read man cron now or can this be done with one or two commands?
[02:13] <visik7> kcron
[02:14] <spiritz> dipnlik: using cron dhclient is not really a solution to ur problem ; u are having some issue here
[02:14] <dipnlik> spiritz, it really looked like a workaround anyway :)
[02:14] <spiritz> dipnlik: ture
[02:14] <spiritz> true
[02:14] <dipnlik> spiritz, how can i set fixed ip?
[02:15] <hatake_kakashi> ifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip
[02:15] <_mindspin> sudo ifc...
[02:15] <cycus_zwisus> no women here??
[02:16] <spiritz> dipnlik: do what hatake_kakashi told u ; then you should add ur windows xp computer as gateway (if ur planning of sharing intenret acess with : sudo route add default gw IP.WINXP dev eth0
[02:16] <hatake_kakashi> _mindspin: yeah that's more like it, ta :) I'm too used to avoid saying sudo for this and that :)
[02:16] <_mindspin> yup
[02:17] <spiritz> dipnlik: and add ur windows xp ip and ur provide dns ip to /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver ip.ip.ip (for both winxp and provider)
[02:17] <Heady_> spiritz: installed, but still nothing
[02:17] <Heady_> could not even play wav files
[02:17] <spiritz> Heady_: u should provide me the result of each test I told u to do
[02:17] <lubo> spiritz thanks: see you all !!! :-)
[02:17] <Heady_> spiritz: later, have to run
[02:17] <spiritz> Heady_: ok bye
[02:19] <spiritz> dipnlik: actually an easy way would  be to edit  ur network configuration file :)
[02:20] <dipnlik> spiritz, where is the network configuration file?
[02:20] <_mindspin> "/etc/network/interfaces"
[02:20] <spiritz> dipnlik: tell me whats ur windows xp ip and ur computer ip
[02:22] <dipnlik> spiritz: i did ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.100 up, ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.101 up
[02:22] <spiritz> why both eth0 and  eth1?
[02:22] <dipnlik> spiritz, then route add default gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth1
[02:22] <spiritz> two network cards?
[02:22] <dipnlik> spiritz, yes
[02:23] <dipnlik> in /etc/resolv.conf , added two lines
[02:23] <dipnlik> nameserver 200.204.0.10 and nameserver 200.204.0.139
[02:23] <dipnlik> all with the needed sudos :)
[02:23] <spiritz> it should work
[02:24] <spiritz> you should add nameserver ur.win.xp.ip
[02:24] <spiritz> dipnlik: for the network configuration file : http://pastebin.com/590694
[02:25] <weedar> Anyone using EVMS to mount ntfs partitions? :) I'm unable to pass the option "umask=0222" via evmsgui
[02:26] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: if dhclient/dhclient3 overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf you can always set the file immutatable via chattr :D
[02:27] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi, think that's exactly my problem!
[02:27] <dipnlik> will take a look at chattr
[02:27] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: oh coolies :)
[02:27] <spiritz> dipnlik: chattr +i file.test
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: though I must warn you that you will get error messages saying that the file cannot be edited at boot, etc
[02:29] <hatake_kakashi> and you need to be su to do that
[02:30] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi, sudo won't work?
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: sudo chattr +i foo ?
[02:31] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi, yes
[02:31] <dipnlik> you made it sound like sudo chattr +i foo wouldn't work
[02:32] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[02:40] <dipnlik> spiritz, still the same situation, i will take a look at the pastebin link you sent me
[02:40] <spiritz> dipnlik: it should work out with what u've done so far; make sure there is no more dhclient running [sudo pkill dhclient] ;
[02:40] <spiritz> dipnlik: are u able to ping ur xp box?
[02:42] <dipnlik> spiritz, will dhclient come back on reboot after this pkill?
[02:43] <dipnlik> spiritz, i can ping the xp machine just fine
[02:43] <dipnlik> spiritz, network is fine. in fact, i am using krdc to the xp machine right now :)
[02:44] <spiritz> dipnlik: no it won't come back since u set /etc/network/interface to "static"
[02:44] <spiritz> dipnlik: are u able to use dns service ? > doing nslookup google.com will returns google's ip?
[02:44] <jaume> puta
[02:45] <dipnlik> spiritz, yes
[02:45] <ph8> hey guys, to switch from gnome to kde do i just do apt-get install kde-desktop and reboot?
[02:45] <dipnlik> spiritz, nslookup worked fine, lets try navigating
[02:45] <spiritz> ph8: no need to reboot
[02:46] <dipnlik> spiritz, still no pinging outside nor navigating :S
[02:49] <ph8> i'm just apt-get'ing kubuntu-desktop now, will i need to apt-get remove gnome-desktop?
[02:49] <ph8> or ubuntu-desktop i guess
[02:51] <dipnlik> spiritz: hi again :)
[02:51] <spiritz> hi again
[02:51] <spiritz> is it working?
[02:52] <dipnlik> no :(
[02:52] <dipnlik> just noticed something
[02:52] <dipnlik> tried traceroute6 www.google.com and it said no route to host
[02:52] <spiritz> there's a problem with ur gateway setting
[02:53] <spiritz> ur should first make only one of ur network card work, then the other once it is working
[02:53] <spiritz> if I were u if would do ifdown for both and only ifup one
[02:53] <dipnlik> will try it
[02:54] <ccc_> ph8: no, you don't need to remove anything. just log out, choose KDE as session and log in.
[02:59] <dipnlik> spiritz, YAY! at least i got connected again
[02:59] <dipnlik> lets see for how much time ._.
[03:01] <dipnlik> spiritz, i put down eth0 and eth1, up eth0 again and now it is working. thank you thank you thank you!
[03:02] <dipnlik> spiritz, but im not using eth1 here. will it come up again on reboot and fsck me up again?
[03:13] <dipnlik> well, thank you all for the help, you guys rock :)
[03:13] <dipnlik> i am happy again :)
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> hmm, anyone on a uniproc computer and have at least 2 SATA hard disks plugged in?
[03:15] <carsten> Hi. Are there backports of OpenOffice 2.0.1 or 2.0.2 for breezy?
[03:18] <dipnlik> ok, now i have this: there are two network cards here but one will not be used. i put it down with ifconfig but i'm not sure if it will stay down if i reboot my machine
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: that needs to edit some file, I cannot remember which one :/
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> carsten: nfi
[03:21] <ph8> Hey guys, i just apt-got installed kubuntu-desktop and tried to logout and back in
[03:21] <ph8> didn't work (blank screen) so i rebooted
[03:21] <ph8> Now i get the kde login screen (after manually starting kdm, but i can probably fix that), but when i login i get my gnome metacity window manager (customised imagery)
[03:21] <ph8> then it looks like it's trying to start something (top and bottom bars keep appearing and disappearing with no options on them)
[03:21] <ph8> then it just stops working with only the kde background visible
[03:22] <ph8> any ideas what that could be?
[03:22] <carsten> hatake_kakashi: nfi?
[03:23] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: did you have multiverse/universe repos enabled and/or using dapper?
[03:23] <hatake_kakashi> carsten: no fscking idea
[03:23] <ph8> not using dapper
[03:23] <ph8> and i think i have those repos enabled
[03:23] <carsten> hatake_kakashi: those responses don't help the linux-desktop-world, to be honst.
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: cat /etc/apt/sources.list| grep multiverse
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> carsten: some people prefer that or something similar as an answer compared to no response
[03:24] <arrinmurr> is there an easy way to get a gnome-style panel in kde?
[03:25] <weedar> dipnlik, try editing /etc/network/interfaces :)
[03:25] <edulix> hi !
[03:25] <ph8> yep i've got breezy and breezy-backports multiverse on
[03:25] <edulix> how can I disable by default bookmarks toolbar in konqueror? everytime I launch a new one it appears there
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: that was before or after obtaining kubuntu-desktop?
[03:26] <ph8> why is that a problem/how do i fix it hatake_kakashi?
[03:26] <ph8> it was like that before
[03:26] <ph8> when i was using gnome
[03:26] <dipnlik> weedar: commented out the eth1 lines, need to do anything else?
[03:26] <weedar> dipnlik, that should be it :)
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: multiverse and universe repos are not supported, so generally speaking, you may have obtained unstable/testing packages from those repos. That could give odd results
[03:27] <dipnlik> weedar: wee :)
[03:27] <dipnlik> will reboot for testing, see ya!
[03:27] <ph8> so i should uncomment them, update and upgrade then reboot?
[03:27] <ph8> i can't find any errors.. :(
[03:27] <ph8> how do i alter my init.d to make sure gdm isn't starting in conflict?
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: I don't think that will help.. i.e. downgrading
[03:27] <ph8> i was using sysv-rc-conf but it doesn't work well in console-mode
[03:28] <weedar> see you dipnlik! =)
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: iirc, when you get another desktop, it will ask you which do you want to set it as a default desktop manager. There is 3 options, one is gdm, then its kdm and then probably the third one is what you set yourself
[03:29] <ph8> I got that
[03:29] <ph8> set it to kdm
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> edulix: not sure
[03:30] <ph8> it seems that loads of gnome stuff, like gnome-panel, nautilus etc is starting when i boot to kde
[03:30] <ph8> do you think that removing gnome-desktop will sort it?
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> ph8: doubt it, but you may want to check the forums prior to doing so
[03:31] <ita> hi all i have a question .. im with kubuntu in an ad-windows universe so im broke anyways .. but .. i cant reach smb/cifs shares with konqueror (anymore?!) .. i can easily mount -t cifs //1.2.3.4/someShare /mnt/someMount -o username=me,pw=notyourbusiness - but trying to reach that resource via konqueror with smb://1.2.3.4/someShare results (even after entering correct credentials) in an unauth err
[03:31] <ita> me dumb ? or is there something like cifs://1.2.3.4 for konqueror or some other "trick" i should know ?
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> I personally think if its possible to somehow goback on kubuntu-desktop by doing sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop. Then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file, commenting out on those multiverse/universe lines. sudo apt-get update it and then do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. Possibly this might work
[03:33] <hatake_kakashi> ita: you cannot see the computer via <workgroup> ?
[03:33] <hatake_kakashi> or what about smbtree?
[03:34] <edulix> hatake_kakashi: I think you could save diferent perspectives in konqueror, but that option is not showed in my kubuntu
[03:34] <ita> oh .. let me try this first
[03:35] <hatake_kakashi> edulix: hmm.. well you might want to give #kde a go.
[03:35] <ita> i can see lots of machines with smbtree - also the one i was trying to get on with konqueror
[03:36] <hatake_kakashi> ita: so smbtree can see it but konqueror cannot see it? :/
[03:36] <ita> sorry i dont know how to make my konqueror look through workgroups .. ?! i just enter <WORKGROUP> ?!
[03:37] <edulix> hatake_kakashi:, I'm already there, I'll give it a try
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> ita: try typing 'smb:/' in the address bar
[03:38] <meaculpa> lo, I just upgraded from 3.4.1 to 3.5.1, and suddenly NONE of the windows get Window decoration, as in titlebar, minimize, maximize buttons etcetera!?
[03:39] <meaculpa> There are no titlebars, so I can't move windows arround by dragging etcetera. I have NO clue why/how this happens. Where should I start looking?
[03:40] <ita> wow nice .) ok i do that i see the groups .. i click a group i see the machines .. i click the machine . and woop : im asked for username/pw .. but whatever i enter (even the data that works for the mount -t cifs....) i get a access denied to smb://someMachine
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> ita: odd, well I'm not sure then
[03:42] <ita> np im sure somethings weird here .. i thought it must be the difference between smb and cifs .. but wikipedia tells me its pretty much the same so i gave it a shot to ask :)
[03:42] <mikearthur> "dh_testdir" what  package is this command in?
[03:42] <ita> thank you for trying to help
[03:44] <meaculpa> mikearthur, that's part of the toolset for creating Debian packages.
[03:45] <meaculpa> mikearthur, I think the package is "debhelper"
[03:46] <meaculpa> mikearthur, but you should really install "build-essential".
[03:58] <hermanr> Will Adept remain in the same form it has in Breezy?  I don't think Adept is particulary appealing and usable to a newcomer.
[04:00] <HymnToLife> realy ?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> I was never able to use adept
[04:01] <HymnToLife> Synaptic all the way
[04:01] <HymnToLife> oh
[04:01] <HymnToLife> never mind
[04:01] <HymnToLife> well I think the same then :D
[04:02] <hermanr> Exactly.  Synaptic was sort of OK.  Adept looks like a pretty-printed view of sources.list.  That is really half-asses as a GUI.
[04:03] <hermanr> s/asses/assed/
[04:10] <ita> gimme a l, an a, another l, one more a, another l, and one last a ... lalala !
[04:10] <ita> (sorry i need a break i think)
[04:16] <rysiek|pl> hi there, guy
[04:16] <rysiek|pl> s
[04:17] <rysiek|pl> does anybody know of a way of generating an X server event?
[04:17] <rysiek|pl> a command, preferably
[04:21] <rysiek|pl> *or*, alternatively, how to discover a scancode for a keycode, if the keycode is not listed in getkeycodes
[04:24] <mikearthur> I've apt-getted lame, how come kaudiocreator won't use it?
[04:27] <mikearthur> the kubuntu wiki just mirrors the ubuntu one
[04:59] <rysiek|pl> hi there. a question asked on #ubuntu (got no answer), re-posting here:
[04:59] <rysiek|pl> if I put my own script (or modify /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh) and want it to output messages ("loading My-Own_Something... [OK] "), I do know, I don't use echo. But what *should* I use? :)
[05:01] <crimsun> what you need to do is lsb-ify it
[05:03] <trappist> crimsun: is there a package that would give me the source of my running kernel?  where make-kpkg would give me the same kernel and I could use it instead of linux-headers-$(uname -r) to build drivers against?
[05:03] <crimsun> trappist: you use linux-headers-$(uname -r) to build external drivers, not the full source
[05:04] <trappist> crimsun: some modules need more than linux-headers.  loop-aes comes to mind.
[05:04] <crimsun> in other words, you _could_ use the full source _if_ it hasn't split out the headers portion
[05:04] <crimsun> that's because loop-aes has fundamentally had a broken build system for years
[05:04] <crimsun> it has been that way since I began building it three years ago
[05:05] <trappist> so, is there no such package?  I see dozens of -source and -tree packages but I'm not sure any of them is what I'm looking for
[05:05] <crimsun> to answer your question - linux-source-2.6.15, or if you need more, linux-tree-2.6.15
[05:05] <crimsun> linux-tree-2.6.15 is a metapackage that depends on l-s-2.6.15 (among others)
[05:05] <trappist> but do those distinguish between 2.6.15-15 and 2.6.15-17 or i386 vs. k7?
[05:06] <crimsun> they don't care about the abi (the epoch)
[05:06] <crimsun> the abi is maintained purely in the debian infrastructure
[05:06] <trappist> yeah I'm hoping for something that, say, the nvidia installer would recognize as the source of the running kernel
[05:06] <hatake_kakashi> trappist: the -15 and -17 includes minor dist appended fixes, etc. i386 and k7 are different arch for cpu
[05:07] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: no, the -15 or -17 are not fixes but an abi indicator (epoch)
[05:07] <trappist> hatake_kakashi: I understand that.  I'm looking for a package that's a match for my running kernel, rather than the source of something similar
[05:07] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: abi indicator? hmm interesting
[05:07] <crimsun> trappist: the only thing that tracks your exact running kernel are the headers themselves.
[05:08] <trappist> sure would like to have such a package.
[05:08] <trappist> doesn't debian do that?
[05:08] <crimsun> no
[05:08] <crimsun> and what you want is for those broken external drivers' build systems to be fixed
[05:08] <trappist> I recall mandrake having kernel and kernel-source packages.  it was nice.
[05:09] <crimsun> you only need headers to compile external modules. Anything more means a broken build system for $modules.
[05:09] <trappist> crimsun: no, I don't even use loop-aes.  that was just an example.  what I want is an all-purpose package I can use to build drivers against, build a custom kernel, etc.
[05:09] <crimsun> those are fundamentally different given our approach
[05:10] <crimsun> 1) external drivers are built using l-h-$(uname -r)
[05:10] <crimsun> 2) building your own kernel means pulling down apt-get source l-i-$(uname -r)
[05:11] <crimsun> in other words, there is no reason why someone wanting to do (1) should ever have to concern her- /himself with (2)
[05:14] <stokes_> anyone home
[05:14] <stokes_> printer problem anyone?
[05:14] <dipnlik> stokes_: some
[05:14] <stokes_> dipnlik I get a message that it cannot connect to my CUPS server
[05:15] <dipnlik> stokes_: here it just worked, no idea :S
[05:15] <stokes_> dipnlik like to see my syslog error?
[05:15] <trappist> crimsun: I guess I don't like the approach.  I don't hate it, but I would prefer something more like I'm describing.  I think it would obviate the need for all the -source and -tree packages.
[05:16] <dipnlik> you can post on a pastebin so ppl here on the chan can help you
[05:16] <crimsun> trappist: again, it's a different vector
[05:16] <trappist> understood
[05:16] <stokes_> dipnlik pastebin?? I dont follow
[05:17] <weedar> Does anyone have the Belkin F5D7050 USB wireless adapter?
[05:17] <dipnlik> from /topic: "Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com"
[05:17] <stokes_> thanks
[05:18] <trappist> hope we get the amarok 1.4 beta2 package soon
[05:18] <weedar> What does it do trappist ? (to lazy to google it)
[05:20] <weedar> trappist, what does it fix?
[05:26] <stordalsbon> Does any1 know how to shut down the firewall?
[05:26] <vge> what firewall?
[05:27] <trappist> weedar: if you're upgrading from 1.3 and use a mysql backend, beta1 crashes on startup trying to backup your sqlite db
[05:27] <trappist> stordalsbon: I wrote this to wipe it out no matter what: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/flush
[05:29] <weedar> trappist, my problem is that after setting it to mysql it reverts to sqlite after I restart it..Although I'm not using the beta
[05:29] <trappist> yeah I had that problem for a while in 1.3.  it just sorta went away after a while.
[05:30] <weedar> hah, don't you just love bugs like that? The worst thing I usually get annoyed when the bug just goes away because I hate not knowing what's going on
[05:30] <trappist> yeah.  in aviation maintenance we called em phantom gripes.
[05:31] <weedar> You probably shouldn't reveal how faulty airplanes are this close to summer/winter/anytime
[05:33] <trappist> well it wasn't like sometimes they fall out of the sky and sometimes they don't.  it's like sometimes the weight-on-wheels indicator threshold is a little off and sometimes it's not.
[05:33] <sveri> hi, i have some problems with special characters like  and  ..., i want to import contacts from a csv file into kontact, but the special characters wont be displayed correctly, no matter what i try, converting the file to utf8 with iconv didnt help, importing them with iso8859-1 characterset chosen didnt do the trick too, any ideas?
[05:35] <trappist> you could try using regular expressions to replace those characters, but I haven't figured out how to match unicode weirdness with regexes.  in pcre it's supposed to be /\uXXXX/ where XXXX is the 4-character unicode code
[05:35] <nadia007> g morning...  wondering if anyone got linksys wireless speedbooster card to work with their kubuntu?
[05:35] <weedar> trappist, speaking of weird errors..I used to work at a computer store, sometimes a particular motherboard wouldn't accept a particular PCI card. It would work fine with another PCI card of the same model, and the first PCI card would work with another mobo
[05:36] <nadia007> I've managed to get my card working... but I just can't get the wep encryption part to work.  Any suggestions?
[05:36] <murderer> wenas alguien m dice como busco paketes??? en kubuntu????? cn su gestor
[05:36] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[05:36] <nadia007> oskari. thx
[05:37] <murderer> es que tngo servirdores y eso pero nada no conectan o nose :s
[05:38] <sveri> trappist: i already thought about it, but i couldnt figure out any regularity about it, sometimes there was a string like: utf8-encodig:... sometimes the characters cant be displayed (it shows Muller when there should be Mller)...
[05:38] <trappist> sveri: try changing or unsetting your LANG environment variable
[05:39] <trappist> presumably that u in muller originally had an umlaut
[05:39] <sveri> trappist: hm, and then? i have no idea about lang variables
[05:39] <trappist> and then see what those characters look like
[05:39] <sveri> my lang is set at: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[05:40] <trappist> oh, I'd expect any kind of de to be able to handle germanic characters like that
[05:40] <sveri> yeah, i thought that too
[05:40] <trappist> I just got done dealing with stuff like that converting pdf to html, but I just modified the character conversion table in the pdftohtml source
[05:41] <sveri> its really a pitty, when i import the csv file and choose iso8859-1 as encoding the characters are displayed correctly, but after the import the same sh.. happens again
[05:41] <sveri> hm, sounds like hard work
[05:42] <trappist> yeah it sucked
[05:43] <eXIstenZ> where can I download kde 3.51 from
[05:44] <weedar> eXIstenZ, check out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[05:46] <ricky_ds> When I insert an audio CD, Konqueror just takes one entry of cddb for defining the name of the files while KsCD is asking me which entry of cddb is relevant. How can I make Konqueror also ask me?
[05:47] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:48] <tomas_> hi
[05:48] <ricky_ds> hi slow-motion
[05:49] <slow-motion> hi ricky_ds
[06:13] <eXIstenZ> how can I use a network printer that is installed on a windows computer?
[06:18] <DevGet> I got an error when loading a file to kaffeine
[06:18] <yezzur> okay i need a good source.list with all the kubuntu files
[06:18] <yezzur> mine is ruined
[06:18] <DevGet> it's about that wmvdmod.dll  isn't found
[06:18] <DevGet> how to get it=
[06:19] <yezzur> my list is ruined
[06:19] <yezzur> not my kubunt
[06:19] <yezzur> tu
[06:19] <patrix> DevGet: install w32codecs from plf or universe or wherever it's from
[06:19] <patrix> yezzur: I got one, not the original , but close
[06:19] <yezzur> that will work
[06:20] <DevGet> !w32codecs
[06:20] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:20] <patrix> yezzur: http://patrix.org/sources.list
[06:21] <patrix> yezzur: make sure to remove the stuff you don't want (I uncommented the universe ,multiverse repositories, and added the 4 lines above #deb cdrom...)
[06:22] <sveri> trappist: i even saw that this problem only seems to appear on my laptop, here i first installed everything in english and later i added german as native language, thats the only thing which comes to my mind what could cause theses problems, on other boxes it seems to work well (german language only)
[06:22] <trappist> sveri: if you run 'locale' are all those vars consistent?
[06:23] <trappist> particularly LC_ALL
[06:23] <sveri> hm, i even see that LC_ALL is empty, the rest is consistent
[06:26] <weedar> Has anyone here installed the rt2570 module?
[06:36] <bur[n] er> anyone know if amarok 1.4 beta 2 is around somewhere?
[06:38] <_boisvert> eXistenZ:  have you checked out "samba"
[06:39] <stupendo44> bur[n] er: /join #amarok
[06:51] <ganymed_> hallo
[07:01] <lastman> Hello all.
[07:01] <lastman> I'm new to kubuntu.  I'm trying to figure out how to install win32codecs
[07:02] <weedar> What is the KDE equivalent of System -> Administration->Networking?
[07:02] <bipolar> weedar: System Settings > Network Settings?
[07:03] <weedar> thanks bipolar :)
[07:03] <bipolar> np
[07:03] <patrix> !w32codecs
[07:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:04] <weedar> Although I have to say "fsck those fsck'ing KDE-developers (or whoever responsible) for making most System Settings windows unusable due to impossible-to-reach administrator's mode button" *P'ed off*
[07:04] <HymnToLife> +1,000,000 weedar
[07:05] <patrix> weedar: how is the button unaccessbile?
[07:05] <HymnToLife> I mostly use gnome admin tools anyway even in KDE
[07:05] <weedar> patrick_, the windows is so big I can't access the button and the window is un-resizable
[07:05] <trappist> probably one of those window-is-the-wrong-size bugs I saw on malone
[07:05] <trappist> yeah
[07:05] <patrix> weedar: tjhat's weird. not even alt-rightclic-drag can resive the window?
[07:06] <trappist> weedar: the system settings interface is kubuntu-specific.  kde ships kcontrol, which I prefer.
[07:06] <weedar> I've bitched about it earlier to one of the developers responsible, but I haven't seen anybody fix it yet
[07:06] <HymnToLife> patrix > it can
[07:06] <trappist> weedar: there are bugs filed on it
[07:06] <patrix> HymnToLife: in general yes, but in weedar's case maybe not
[07:06] <HymnToLife> but it will display the system menu window
[07:06] <HymnToLife> instead of the one youre trying to
[07:07] <weedar> Wow, this one was actually usuable once I hid the K-panel, but for some others I know this is not possible
[07:07] <weedar> patrick_, what resolution do you use?
[07:07] <patrix> 1280x1024, and I'm patrix not patrick_
[07:08] <weedar> whoops, sorry patrix :)
[07:08] <weedar> Anyway, the window died on me and then resized itself so now I can't even access it when hiding the panel
[07:08] <patrix> lol
[07:08] <weedar> That's not even fair
[07:08] <patrix> that's really weird
[07:09] <HymnToLife> I'm 2048x1536
[07:09] <HymnToLife> defiitely not a resolution issue
[07:09] <patrix> what resolution , weedar ?
[07:09] <weedar> I'm using 1024x768
[07:09] <patrix> ok
[07:09] <weedar> I only have a 15" screen so it's definetly the maximum I feel comfortable using
[07:09] <patrix> btw
[07:09] <patrix> you can MOVE windows by alt-leftclick-drag
[07:09] <slow-motion> 
[07:10] <patrix> I just changed my resolution to 1024x768, and yeah the buitton was hidden by the panel, but I just moved the window up
[07:10] <weedar> Yeah it's a solution, but it's still buggy that you have to do that
[07:10] <patrix> some developers forget about lower resolutions
[07:10] <HymnToLife> dammit
[07:10] <weedar> Which is why I usually use kcontrol
[07:10] <eXIstenZ> I installed xemacs but it doesn't appear in the start menu
[07:10] <patrix> they all run 2048x1536 resolutions...... lol :P
[07:11] <HymnToLife> it just won't work for me
[07:11] <weedar> I bet all the developers use big-screen HD-ready LCD/pure evil/plasma TVs as displays
[07:11] <HymnToLife> and I _am_ running 2048x1536
[07:12] <weedar> what size is your monitor HymnToLife ? (this is not a pickup-line)
[07:12] <patrix> yeah it's lioke back in the days, when the GNOME devs were "oh GNOME isn't slow at all!" with their shiny new P4's, never considering it might be slow on some guy's 600MHz AMD machine
[07:12] <HymnToLife> weedar> not so big
[07:12] <HymnToLife> it's a 17"
[07:13] <djib> Hello, I'm looking for an option that allows to navigate betweens windows that are grouped in the taskbar using the scroll on the mouse
[07:13] <HymnToLife> on a laptop (it isn't mine, a friend's I tested on)
[07:13] <weedar> Ah, I see
[07:13] <patrix> heh
[07:13] <patrix> I've got 19 inches, 1280x1024 is perfect, don't feel the need for higher res
[07:13] <Random_Transit> bollocks! 17'' @ 2048x1536
[07:13] <djib> I can't find out where it is and scrolling navigates between all windows which I don't like...
[07:13] <Random_Transit> HymnToLife...how do you SEE anything!!!
[07:14] <HymnToLife> not really
[07:14] <weedar> Well, I'm usually not a big fan og huge monitors, but I wouldn't mind going up to 17 or 19" =)
[07:14] <HymnToLife> besides, I have a very bad vision
[07:14] <HymnToLife> lol
[07:14] <Random_Transit> lol
[07:14] <HymnToLife> right now I'm 800x600 on an old monitor cuz mine broke down
[07:15] <Random_Transit> lol...me too
[07:15] <patrix> lol
[07:15] <patrix> good ol days
[07:15] <Random_Transit> only i have mine set to 1024x768
[07:15] <patrix> DOS 5.1, win3!
[07:15] <HymnToLife> mine can't handle it Random_Transit
[07:15] <weedar> Yeah, when we didn't have any fancy programming languages, we had to type out our programs with 0's and 1's
[07:15] <HymnToLife> it's 15" though
[07:15] <Random_Transit> same here
[07:16] <weedar> And when we ran out of 0's we had to use uppercase O's instead
[07:16] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having problems getting my printer working, can anyone help me?
[07:16] <weedar> what printer do you have Random_Transit ?
[07:16] <Random_Transit> lexmark z700
[07:17] <Random_Transit> i've tried using the devkit drivers from lexmark's site
[07:18] <angasule> I can't hear sound of a .ram stream with kaffeine (although I can hear sound playing other videos)
[07:18] <angasule> !realplayer
[07:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:18] <Random_Transit> ubuntu and CUPS can see the drivers, and the printer...in the right location, but nothing will print
[07:19] <Random_Transit> not even any kind of communication errors
[07:19] <Random_Transit> I've gotten this thing to work in other distros...namely SuSE.
[07:20] <weedar> Random_Transit, seen http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12479/ ?
[07:20] <weedar> Also, take a peek at the HOWTO Random_Transit - over at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=z700
[07:22] <weedar> Random_Transit, I haven't used SuSE in years so I'm not familiar with the differences, sorry
[07:24] <Random_Transit> weedar, i used it just last year before i switched to ubu...if it weren't for the fact that it still uses RPM...it'd be just as good as ubu
[07:24] <djib> Hello, I'm looking for an option that allows to navigate betweens windows that are grouped in the taskbar using the scroll on the mouse
[07:24] <djib> I can't find out where it is and scrolling navigates between all windows which I don't like...
[07:24] <Random_Transit> i switched because apt is a godsend
[07:25] <Random_Transit> dijib...try kompose...it's a full screen task manager...it's quite good
[07:26] <patrix> he's not looking for kompose, he's looking for the scrollwheel behaviour options
[07:26] <patrix> which  Ihave no idea where to find, djib , nor any idea if what you ask is possible
[07:28] <djib> I know it is possible patrix
[07:28] <Random_Transit> dijb, sorry, i didn't read your comment fully
[07:28] <djib> On my old kde that was the behavious
[07:28] <Random_Transit> what version of KDE, dijb?
[07:28] <djib> 3.5
[07:28] <djib> well that's what I use now
[07:29] <Random_Transit> ok
[07:29] <djib> In 3.4 and 3.3 scolling would only scoll in grouped blocks
[07:29] <Random_Transit> yeah, y'know, i've noticed that there were a few little features that aren't there myself
[07:29] <djib> very convenient for programs like gimp
[07:30] <Random_Transit> yeah, that's my one gripe about GIMP...it's all a mess of separate windows
[07:30] <djib> oh actually when I click it does what I expect
[07:30] <djib> it's just not as fast as scolling
[07:31] <djib> but I can cope with it
[07:31] <djib> thanks
[07:31] <Random_Transit> regardless, you might want to surf around on kde-look.org
[07:31] <Random_Transit> see if you can find a little tweak
[07:31] <Random_Transit> great site...i go there a lot
[07:31] <djib> ok
[07:31] <djib> cheers
[07:31] <Random_Transit> ^_^
[07:38] <jyri> #ubuntu.fi
[07:39] <aldo-IT-> hello all!
[07:39] <aldo-IT-> I've a noob question....
[07:39] <aldo-IT-> so please be patient... :)
[07:39] <aldo-IT-> I've got this mini-itx (epia m10000) and can't install ubuntu... I get a read error from my cd rom in some part of the installation process. since I've tryed debian and it's always the same and since I can read correctly both cds with windoze, I was thinking of an hdd to hdd install... but dunno how todo it...
[07:40] <aldo-IT-> some help whould be appreciated.... :)
[07:41] <aldo-IT-> tryed also a net-install (with debian) but my network card couldn't be detected properly... so here I am... looking for some help!
[07:43] <rysiek|pl> hullo
[07:44] <aldo-IT-> it seems noone's here...
[07:48] <Random_Transit> hello...anyone here??
[07:49] <Random_Transit> weedar?
[07:54] <me2win> hey
[07:54] <eXIstenZ> How can I enable the java web start?
[07:55] <me2win> in what browser?
[07:56] <me2win> !java
[07:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:57] <eXIstenZ> I've already installed java
[07:58] <Random_Transit> !lexmark
[07:59] <ubotu> Random_Transit: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:59] <me2win> yes well, that is why i asked you what browser
[08:03] <patrix> heh
[08:05] <eXIstenZ> me2win, kubuntu
[08:06] <eXIstenZ> me2win, konqueror, sorry.
[08:08] <mihai> translate from dos to sh: copy con >a.txt
[08:13] <ciga> hi
[08:22] <tommy> buonasera a tutti
[08:22] <tommy> sono un nuovo utente linux
[08:22] <weedar> Something in /etc/network/interfaces is locking my Kubuntu-PC on bootup, what can I do to boot it and fix the problem? :)
[08:23] <ccc_> !it
[08:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:28] <ciga> anyone knows how I should compile amarok from svn for breezy?
[08:32] <eXIstenZ> me2win, still there?
[08:41] <korven> How do i change the k-menu con?'
[08:41] <korven> icon
[08:45] <_JuDgEn_> How do i change the default icon for k menu?
[08:49] <Random_Transit> _JuDgEn_...do a search for kmenu.png
[08:49] <Random_Transit> then, open the folder containing that file
[08:49] <Random_Transit> and open it in GIMP
[08:49] <Random_Transit> from there, change it to whatever you wich
[08:51] <Random_Transit> _JuDgEn_...you there?
[08:51] <_JuDgEn_> Random_Transit:  yes
[08:51] <_JuDgEn_> dont have gimp though but if i have a replacement icon
[08:51] <_JuDgEn_> ?
[08:52] <Random_Transit> ok
[08:52] <Random_Transit> then just rename it kmenu.png
[08:53] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, After I installed xemacs it doesn't appear in the start menu, what can I Do
[08:53] <Random_Transit> hmm...
[08:53] <Random_Transit> ok, go and right click on the kmenu and go to menu editor
[08:54] <_JuDgEn_> ok
[08:54] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, are you using the new version of firefox
[08:54] <Random_Transit> yup
[08:55] <Random_Transit> if you're going to ask about a DEB package...i can't find one myself
[08:56] <Random_Transit> eXIstenZ...have you got the menu editor open?
[08:56] <eXIstenZ> yep
[08:56] <Random_Transit> ok...
[08:57] <Random_Transit> go to the utilities heading, and then to the editors sub-heading
[08:57] <Random_Transit> click the "new item" button
[08:57] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, no such editors sub-heading
[08:57] <Random_Transit> ok
[08:57] <Random_Transit> well, it really doesn't matter where you put it...
[08:58] <Random_Transit> so long as you know where it is
[08:58] <Random_Transit> anyway, find a heading you would like the xemacs shortcut in, and then click "new item"
[08:59] <Random_Transit> name the new item XEmacs
[09:00] <_Cygnus_> any hacker in here ?
[09:00] <_Cygnus_> i need to hack some junkie
[09:00] <Random_Transit> _Cygnus_....good luck
[09:01] <Random_Transit> lol....
[09:01] <eXIstenZ> what an idiot
[09:01] <mijndert> hehe
[09:01] <Random_Transit> -_-;;
[09:02] <Random_Transit> how much you want to bet he's going from room to room asking the same question?
[09:02] <Txukie> hi
[09:02] <Random_Transit> hello Txukie
[09:03] <Txukie> is there a special room for kubuntu dapper questions?
[09:03] <Random_Transit> anyway, eXIstenZ, once you've created the new item, you need to fill in the commmand it will execute
[09:04] <Random_Transit> in this case, probably "/usr/bin/xemacs"
[09:04] <Random_Transit> Txukie...what's your question
[09:04] <Txukie> well was wondering if somebody managed to make kde-window-decorator work
[09:04] <Txukie> with Xgl + compiz
[09:06] <Random_Transit> sorry, Txukie...I actually haven't given XGL + Compiz a spin yet
[09:06] <Random_Transit> eXIstenZ, did the new shortcut in the kMenu work for you?
[09:06] <Txukie> oh ok Random_Transit thanks anyways
[09:06] <Random_Transit> np
[09:07] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, yeah, thanks :-)
[09:07] <Random_Transit> ^_^
[09:07] <Txukie> ive made a little howto on ubuntuforums to make it half work
[09:07] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, Do you know any good repos. for multimedia stuff, like w32codecs and such?
[09:07] <Random_Transit> ooh...yeah, hold up, I'll check my apt-sources
[09:07] <Txukie> try the plf
[09:07] <Txukie> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[09:08] <Random_Transit> Txukie, yeah, but there is ACTUALLY a better repo if you want w32codecs
[09:08] <Txukie> falcon?
[09:08] <eXIstenZ> Txukie, do you use firefox?
[09:08] <Txukie> of course
[09:09] <robotgeek> !w32codecs
[09:09] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:09] <eXIstenZ> Txukie, Is the new version in the repos. ?
[09:09] <Txukie> which is the latest?
[09:09] <eXIstenZ> 1.5.0.1
[09:09] <Txukie> yeah
[09:09] <eXIstenZ> I don't remember exactly
[09:09] <eXIstenZ> what repos.?
[09:10] <Random_Transit> ooh! really?
[09:10] <Random_Transit> this i did not know!
[09:10] <Txukie> been there for some time
[09:10] <Random_Transit> really?
[09:10] <Txukie> well i use dapper
[09:10] <Random_Transit> which repo?
[09:10] <Random_Transit> ah
[09:10] <Txukie> ;)
[09:10] <Random_Transit> i'm on breezy
[09:11] <Txukie> got a bit tired of stability
[09:11] <Random_Transit> i've no need for bleeding edge
[09:11] <Random_Transit> lol
[09:11] <Txukie> well its pretty stable everything works fine for me
[09:11] <Txukie> and is quite a lot faster than breezy
[09:11] <Txukie> specially on bootup
[09:11] <Random_Transit> Txukie, tired of stability? try slackware
[09:11] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[09:12] <Txukie> i have gentoo on another computer
[09:12] <Txukie> just to get on my nerves
[09:12] <Random_Transit> been meaning to give gentoo a spin...but i don't feel like waiting a week for the damn thing to compile
[09:12] <Txukie> you can download precompiled stuff
[09:13] <Txukie> but loses all its point
[09:13] <Random_Transit> lol
[09:13] <Txukie> gentoo is awesome but not for the impatient
[09:14] <eXIstenZ> Random_Transit, what repos. were you talking of?
[09:14] <Random_Transit> actually they're one of the 'official' repos
[09:15] <Random_Transit> one sec, i'll get the deb line from my apt-sources
[09:15] <Random_Transit> kynaptic is being a bit slow...
[09:16] <Txukie> wow i didnt know kynaptic still existed in Breezy
[09:16] <Random_Transit> yup
[09:16] <Random_Transit> you have to install it separately, though
[09:16] <Txukie> oh i see
[09:16] <Txukie> well i never got used to it
[09:17] <Txukie> i still struggle with adept
[09:17] <Txukie> difficult to beat synaptic
[09:17] <eXIstenZ> Txukie, w32codecs doesn't exist in plf
[09:17] <Random_Transit> i would use synaptic, and i still do when i use GNOME, but i just like some continuity...GNOME apps, with GNOME, KDE apps with KDE
[09:17] <robotgeek> eXIstenZ: what architecture are you using?
[09:18] <eXIstenZ> robotgeek, i386
[09:18] <robotgeek> eXIstenZ: it must be there on plf
[09:18] <Txukie> i just found it on plf
[09:18] <Txukie> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-1plf4_i386.deb
[09:19] <robotgeek> thanks Txukie ^^ eXIstenZ
[09:19] <Txukie> you're welcome
[09:20] <Random_Transit> if that source fails...try this one too...ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:21] <Txukie> oh i see so its marillat you were talking about
[09:21] <Txukie> never really liked using those with ubuntu
[09:21] <Txukie> but for w32codecs should be just fine
[09:21] <inteliwasp> does anyone know a program that can show network usage like a graph on an interface?
[09:22] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: hmm, knemo in dapper. i don't know for breezy, sorry
[09:22] <inteliwasp> darn, on my windoze box i have DU meter
[09:23] <Txukie> theres nubuntu distrib which is focused on that task
[09:23] <Txukie> from wikipedia: nUbuntu uses the light window manager Fluxbox to make using nUbuntu fast, yet still functional and easy. It includes some of the most popular security programs for Linux, such as Ethereal, nmap, DSniff, and Ettercap.
[09:24] <eXIstenZ> Txukie, is K3B a good ripping prog?
[09:24] <inteliwasp> all i want is a way to see if i am sending or reciveing data on the fly...
[09:24] <robotgeek> eXIstenZ: yup
[09:24] <Txukie> nothing like good old dd for me
[09:24] <Txukie> but yeah k3b is excellent too
[09:24] <allee> inteliwasp: knemo for breezy: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/breezy/Pkgs.php
[09:24] <sven_GP> hi there I tried to install Kubuntu , and all what I get is a debootstrap error  it can not write some data and exits with error code 1 , anyone any idea ?
[09:25] <robotgeek> eXIstenZ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-multimedia/k3b/howtos.html#videointroduction
[09:25] <Txukie> sven_GP when do you get that error?
[09:25] <sven_GP> when the installer tries to write I think the bootloader data
[09:25] <Txukie> grub?
[09:25] <Snake__> robotgeek: you been around a lot a awful lot latly :)
[09:26] <Txukie> during installation
[09:26] <Txukie> ?
[09:26] <sven_GP> it says (look in /log/ something... but when i try to open that log file its not existing
[09:26] <robotgeek> Snake__: hmm, i know all the links..muhahahaha
[09:26] <sven_GP> jep during installation
[09:26] <sven_GP> yes grub
[09:26] <Txukie> check your bios for virus protection
[09:26] <Snake__> lol
[09:26] <Txukie> or MBR protection or something like that
[09:26] <bam_> anyone got a good suggestion where to get a full man pages compile in pdf format?
[09:26] <Txukie> and deactivate it
[09:26] <sven_GP> I already did that... I did not find anything, that was the first thing I was trying
[09:26] <Snake__> robotgeek: In all honesty, when I seen that link I thought of you, then when I noticed it was you I lmao
[09:27] <robotgeek> lol
[09:27] <sven_GP> what other MBR protection could that possibly be ?
[09:27] <sven_GP> is it possible that there is something in the HD what Blocks write to MBR ?
[09:27] <Txukie> do you have IDE or S-ATA hard drive?
[09:27] <sven_GP> IDE
[09:27] <Txukie> your IDE controller could be blocking it
[09:28] <Txukie> ive seen that on some HP computers
[09:28] <sven_GP> hmmm but why
[09:28] <Txukie> well its a feature for protection i guess
[09:28] <sven_GP> controler that blocks that  hmm
[09:28] <sven_GP> its not a bug its a feature :-)
[09:28] <inteliwasp> thanks allee
[09:28] <Txukie> thats what M$ says all the time
[09:29] <allee> inteliwasp: np
[09:29] <inteliwasp> just what i was looking for and more! :D
[09:29] <Txukie> do you have a "brand" computer
[09:29] <Txukie> ?
[09:30] <navidjoon> I just installed ubuntu but it didn't detect my modem
[09:30] <navidjoon> and it hasn't added the modem to the network interfaces
[09:30] <sven_GP> hmmm  I dont know its called intec (and a computer from a friend) the MB is asrock
[09:30] <navidjoon> How can I do this now that the installation is over?
[09:31] <navidjoon> My modem is an ACORP external serial modem
[09:31] <Txukie> sven_GP i know its a pain but you can always install grub on a floppy
[09:31] <navidjoon> It's connected on ttyS1
[09:31] <Txukie> but anyways when you boot it should give you a key to press to configure it
[09:31] <Txukie> take a good look at your booting screen
[09:32] <navidjoon> Anybody can help me on this modem problem?
[09:32] <sven_GP> hmm we try again.. Ill write later when it comes to the specific point again
[09:32] <Txukie> navidjoon you should use pppoeconf
[09:32] <eXIstenZ> robotgeek, do you prefer kubuntu over ubuntu?
[09:33] <robotgeek> eXIstenZ: yes
[09:33] <Txukie> i do too
[09:33] <inteliwasp> ditto
[09:33] <crimsun> I don't, but that's another story altogether :)
[09:34] <navidjoon> Isn't that for ADSL modems Txukie ?
[09:34] <robotgeek> hey crimsun
[09:34] <crimsun> hey robotgeek
[09:34] <Txukie> yeah
[09:34] <Txukie> o right you have a dialup modem
[09:34] <Txukie> sorry
[09:34] <navidjoon> So any other suggestions guys?
[09:35] <Txukie> amarok, k3b, konqueror, all those apps kick ass
[09:35] <Txukie> navidjoon what does lspci say
[09:35] <Txukie> ?
[09:35] <navidjoon> I'm not in Linux right now
[09:35] <navidjoon> If I was I wouldn't bother asking
[09:36] <navidjoon> I'm sure the modem is linux compatible though
[09:36] <Txukie> well i thought maybe you had your linux box nearby
[09:36] <navidjoon> I've used it on half a dozen of distros
[09:37] <navidjoon> Has anybody ever used a dial-up modem in KUbuntu?
[09:37] <Txukie> well i think if ubuntu detects it as existing you should be able to confgure through kcontrol
[09:38] <cjones_> i am new to all this but would like to make a live cd with a few more programs installed can this be done?
[09:38] <Txukie> yeah it can be done but dont expect it to be easy
[09:38] <cjones_> what kind of stuff would i need to do
[09:39] <eXIstenZ> when I enter to the keyboard layouts
[09:39] <eXIstenZ> I find nothing there
[09:39] <Txukie> well i had a magazine explaining something about
[09:39] <Txukie> it
[09:39] <eXIstenZ> my keyboard model is not defined even
[09:39] <Txukie> do you speak french?
[09:39] <robotgeek> cjones_: is this for a personal use or for distribution?
[09:39] <cjones_> personal use
[09:40] <cjones_> no i dont speek french
[09:40] <Txukie> cjones_ i think by ur nickname u speak spanish
[09:41] <cjones_> all i want to install is some Diagnostic softwere
[09:41] <cjones_> and mabey a theme but thats not real importent
[09:42] <celerate> hello again, I need help with networking
[09:42] <Txukie> cjones_ give a try to this http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[09:42] <Txukie> its pretty well documetned
[09:42] <celerate> first off how do I keep my network card from connecting to other people's "default" wlans?
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> guys, I run into something strange - I remember having console (not Konsole! the real, text-mode console) using and displaying nicely the diacritic characters (Polish to be precise), and then, suddenly, it started to display squares instead of them.
[09:44] <tucoz> Hello, I read in the irc-logs for ubuntu that there will be a custom icon theme for ubuntu. Will this affect kubuntu as well?
[09:44] <Txukie> celerate i guess you could use a firewall
[09:44] <Txukie> rysiek|pl are you using dapper?
[09:45] <celerate> Txukie, isn't there some other way. I'm using a wireless card so it should be possible
[09:45] <Txukie> well just disconnect
[09:45] <Txukie> it
[09:45] <Txukie> sudo ifconfig ethX down
[09:45] <celerate> I turned the interface off, but I'd like to keep it from hunting around for any available network when it is on
[09:46] <Txukie> define the wireless it should seek then
[09:46] <celerate> I want to get it to connect to my own wireless network, but that's not working for me either
[09:46] <Txukie> do you have WPA on your network?
[09:46] <celerate> yes I do have wpa
[09:46] <celerate> and I've got wpasupplicant installed
[09:46] <trappist> rysiek|pl: that sounds like a font issue (as opposed to a locales issue)
[09:46] <celerate> I followed these instructions: http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html
[09:47] <Txukie> have you checked wpasupplicant is working correctly?
[09:48] <celerate> I'm not sure how to do that
[09:48] <Txukie> well i guess you could try
[09:48] <Txukie> lsof |grep wpa
[09:49] <celerate> there's lots of wpa_suppl entries
[09:49] <Txukie> thats good
[09:49] <Txukie> means that its running
[09:49] <celerate> but the thing won't even see my network
[09:49] <Txukie> now you have to make sure you have configured wpa-supplicant correctly
[09:49] <Txukie> wait a sec
[09:50] <Txukie> can you connect through a windows box?
[09:50] <celerate> I've edited the file as instructed by the site I mentioned, making appropriate adjustments for my network
[09:50] <celerate> to my router, yes
[09:50] <celerate> the wireless network itself is healthy
[09:50] <Txukie> i was saying cause some routers dont broadcast if theyre not told to do so
[09:51] <celerate> ah, I've got SSID advertising off
[09:51] <celerate> but that shouldn't matter
[09:51] <Txukie> try turning it on it might help
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> trappist: yep, I figured that out, already, but how to get over it :)
[09:52] <Txukie> and i dont remember very well but maybe you have to define you WPA-PSK as something cryptic
[09:53] <Txukie> i mean if you set password as "foo" in your router
[09:53] <darnell> where can i find w32codecs?
[09:53] <Txukie> maybe in config file you'll have to write something different
[09:53] <Txukie> im not sure im sorrt
[09:53] <celerate> ok, now the ssid is being broadcast
[09:53] <Txukie> sorry^^
[09:54] <Txukie> darnell http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-1plf4_i386.deb
[09:55] <Txukie> make sure too you are using wpa-psk and not wpa-radius or something like that on your router
[09:55] <celerate> yeah, It's PSK
[09:56] <celerate> btw, how do I get off those "default" networks?
[09:57] <celerate> I'd like to know, I know I wouldn't want anyone piggy backing off my network, so I won't do it to the neighbours
[09:58] <darnell> dpkg -i is to setup .deb files yeah?
[09:58] <Txukie> darnell yes
[09:58] <Txukie> celerate iwconfig ethX essid "YOUR NETWORK"
[09:58] <sven_GP> how can I check , if i can write to the MBR from the console
[09:59] <Txukie> sven_GP sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[09:59] <celerate> ok, it's not getting through
[09:59] <Txukie> if everything is ok then you can
[10:00] <robotgeek> celerate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:01] <celerate> thanks robotgeek, I'm having a look at that now
[10:01] <Soyburg> good day.  I am trying to set the time between filesystem checks with tune2fs on breezy badger.  I do 'sudo tune2fs -c 90' to have it checked every 90 reboots.  But when I hit enter I get 'Usage: tune2fs [-c max_mounts_count]  [-e err....".  What am I doing wrong?
[10:01] <sven_GP> txukie: is there any other possibility without having a full installed system (install console)
[10:01] <nuky> during my installation of kubuntu, it halts at the point where it says installing grub boot loader.. do you know how i can get past this? it's on 0%.. the verbose version of the installtion has "virtual package created-fstab" as it's last output.. and packages to be installed is grub.. if that helps
[10:01] <Txukie> celerate check this too http://hostap.epitest.fi/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/hostap/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
[10:02] <Txukie> sven_GP let me check that
[10:02] <sven_GP> Txukie: ok thanks
[10:03] <Soyburg> has anyone in here been able to affect the time between fschecks with tune2fs and if so:  how?
[10:04] <inteliwasp> anyone brave enogh to help me with some pci issues? yes my speling sucks...
[10:05] <celerate> man, this is unecessarily complicated :-(
[10:05] <Txukie> wpa is not great yet celerate
[10:05] <inteliwasp> hey atleast your wireless works celerate... i'm outta luck.\
[10:05] <celerate> yeah, nothing is with my card. I can't get wep to work, I can't get WPA to work. maybe I should just give up and use Windows :-(
[10:06] <inteliwasp> wait what is your AP?
[10:06] <celerate> router is going to reset again, bbiab
[10:06] <xst> I consider installing kubuntu-breezy now, but I am also aware that a newer version, Dapper, will be released in april. If I install breezy now, will I then be able to easily upgrade into Dapper in april? -And will I hereby get *exactly* an installation as in Dapper or will I miss someting?
[10:06] <_james> nooby
[10:06] <inteliwasp> what router did he have?
[10:07] <inteliwasp> i know that linksys routers have a propriatery wep encryption on some of them...
[10:08] <inteliwasp> hey celerater...
[10:08] <celerate> hi
[10:08] <FlatAlex> hi there
[10:08] <inteliwasp> what is your router?
[10:08] <sveri> xst: i upgraded without any problems from hoarthy to breezy, on 3 computers
[10:08] <celerate> my router is a D-Link DI-524 802.11 a/b/g router
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> ok, the fonts info in wiki does not make anything clear in this
[10:08] <sveri> xst: so i assume that upgrading to dapper will not be a problem at all
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> any ideas how to change a console font?
[10:08] <sveri> rysiek|pl: do you remember my nic problem?
[10:08] <Soyburg> xst:  it probably depends on whether you heavily modify your system.  If you don't, you will probably be fine with the upgrade.
[10:09] <Txukie> celerate have you tried latest network manager
[10:09] <Txukie> i know its gnome but might work
[10:09] <celerate> I don't have any GTK software on that thing
[10:09] <Txukie> well it might be worth giving it a try
[10:10] <celerate> I'll have to unplug this computer to get internet on the other for apt
[10:10] <xst> ok, thanks
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> sveri: yup
[10:10] <sven_GP> Txukie: do u think its worth trying to write the MBR from another Motherboard and Computer (install it from there, and pulg the HD afterwards back)
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> sveri: what's with it? :)
[10:11] <Txukie> thats a good idea
[10:11] <Txukie> install a server version though
[10:11] <FlatAlex> im trying to install gmailfs ... i downloaded the fuse python bindings but cant install them
[10:11] <Txukie> and then in your computer install ubuntudesktop
[10:11] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: go ahead
[10:11] <FlatAlex> it says: _fusemodule.c:20:18: error: fuse.h: No such file or directory
[10:11] <Txukie> or kubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <sveri> rysiek|pl: i had to add acpi=off to boot options of grub
[10:11] <sveri> rysiek|pl: that solved the problem
[10:12] <FlatAlex> and a couple of undeclared variables and stuff ... i seem to be missing some headers, but i dont know what
[10:12] <rysiek|pl> sveri: nice one :] 
[10:12] <inteliwasp> RB: i am trying to get my wireless card to work and i was reading some trubleshooting info on the wiki, it said some stuf on the pci being misconfigured...
[10:13] <nuky> when installing kubuntu, what are good ratios for the root:var:home partitions? and is twice the ram ok for a swap?
[10:13] <_JuDgEn_> How do i konfigure kde to run zsnake from desktop area instead of rightclick menu?
[10:13] <sveri> rysiek|pl: yes, so to say, it just came this afternoon to my mind, from somewhere out there ;-)
[10:13] <rysiek|pl> sveri: maybe you could add this to the WiKi, or at least create a topic on the forum, so that if anyone gets the same problem, they will get the info :)
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> sveri: not everyone is *that* genious, you know, to connect LAN NIC with... ACPI :)
[10:14] <inteliwasp> rb: want the link to what i was reading?
[10:15] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: sure, and please tab complete my whole nick :)
[10:16] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28CategoryNetworking%29    look at 4.1.2.1.
[10:17] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: you don't get output with cardctl?
[10:19] <rysiek|pl> so, anybody knows how to change the damn font? :)
[10:19] <sveri> rysiek|pl: yea, thats a very good idea, i already started a thread and send a mail to the ML, but i'll add in in the wiki, if i can do it
[10:20] <_shawn> i am having problems syncing my palm pda
[10:20] <rysiek|pl> you can, just create an account (i did for USplash stuff ;) )
[10:21] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: It's on the pastebin
[10:21] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: link?
[10:21] <_shawn> can anyone help with syncing palm pdas?
[10:22] <robotgeek> _shawn: try kpilot , never done it before. so i can't help oyu much there
[10:22] <FlatAlex> can anybody help me with said gmailfs problem?
[10:23] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/591490
[10:24] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: sorry, reading too many windows... :P
[10:25] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: also lspci -v output please
[10:27] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: up under the other items
[10:27] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: damn, the website i generally use is down, i'll have to google
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> robotgeek: what website?
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> better than google? I don't believe it :] 
[10:29] <robotgeek> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[10:29] <inteliwasp> for wireless
[10:29] <_JuDgEn_> how do i change the default font for wine?
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> ah :)
[10:30] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: http://questier.com/howto.html
[10:30] <_JuDgEn_> wine is using abbadon on my system, and it is hardly readable
[10:31] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: will this work with the gold version?
[10:31] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: okay, lemme google again. i got confused about the 0110 and 0111 models
[10:32] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: it is the 8420-WD
[10:33] <lubo> hello, anyone know about some ra (Real Player) to mp3 converter?
[10:33] <celerate> robotgeek, thanks for the links. I'm getting some progress made.
[10:33] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: momento
[10:33] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: oh wait...
[10:34] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: it does do my card...... i think...................i hope
[10:34] <Txukie> sven_GP: I found something for your mbr thing
[10:35] <celerate> something is happening different now
[10:35] <Txukie> damn after screwing my sandbox he disappears :(
[10:36] <Txukie> celerate: what is different now?
[10:37] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: are you looking for something better or waiting on me?
[10:37] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: waiting
[10:37] <celerate> the KWiFiManager app is actually giving a Mac address after Access Point, it wasn' doing that before
[10:38] <Txukie> well that means its found ur access point
[10:38] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: i have the tarball, do i just tar -uzvx   it?
[10:38] <celerate> it's still not working though, but I think I may know why
[10:38] <Txukie> just a suggestion for you celerate why not just use open access
[10:38] <Chousuke> inteliwasp: xvzf I think
[10:39] <Txukie> and then you filter your accepted connections through mac
[10:39] <inteliwasp> ya your right, i thought i was forgetting domething
[10:39] <_JuDgEn_> How do i change the default font in wine?
[10:39] <Txukie> only accepting your comp's wifi card's mac addres
[10:39] <DeluxXx_> anybody using xdcc-fetch ?
[10:40] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: untared
[10:41] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: cool
[10:41] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: next step?
[10:41] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: moment, in the middle of something here
[10:41] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: ok
[10:42] <Txukie> anyone here using dapper
[10:42] <Txukie> ?
[10:42] <Txukie> kubuntu dapper
[10:43] <robotgeek> inteliwasp, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:43] <luisito> hello here
[10:43] <luisito> I have tried to use the 70Hz refresh rate for my monitor adding 70 to the xorg.conf in the resolution (1280x960@70) but it didn't worl at all. What should I do to make this work at 1280x960? My card supports it and the monitor too, I have it in my Windows hardrive.
[10:43] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: do the entire this asis?
[10:43] <DeluxXx_> Txukie im using dapper works fine
[10:43] <meerkatz> hello, can anyne tell me which package i'll have to install to also have mp3s when browsing an audio cd with kde? ogg/flac/wav are working. only the mp3 dir is missing
[10:44] <Txukie> DeluxXx_: do you have xgl working on it?
[10:44] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: yup, the stuff in the quotes
[10:44] <Txukie> meerkatz: you need w32codecs
[10:44] <robotgeek> !xgl
[10:44] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:44] <deepwoodz> is there anyone reason my settings in systemsettings wont save when i try to access em
[10:44] <DeluxXx_> hm nope
[10:44] <deepwoodz> i been reading up
[10:44] <deepwoodz> i did everything in the tutorials
[10:44] <Txukie> well i manage to make it work sort of
[10:45] <Txukie> but have to use gnome-window.decorator
[10:45] <deepwoodz> still doesnt save
[10:45] <meerkatz> w32codes for mp3?!
[10:45] <deepwoodz> i even added super-user-command to kdecontrols
[10:45] <Txukie> meerkatz: depends on the app really
[10:45] <DeluxXx_> try gstreamre meerkatz
[10:45] <deepwoodz> kdesu still doesnt save
[10:45] <DeluxXx_> gstreamer*
[10:45] <Txukie> meerkatz: if you use gstreamer then just install all itsplugins
[10:45] <deepwoodz> i installed kde 3.51
[10:46] <deepwoodz> still nothin...
[10:46] <meerkatz> ok, i'll try
[10:46] <meerkatz> thnx
[10:46] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: crud... i just looked at my desktop and i have lotsa crap on it...
[10:46] <Txukie> meerkatz: if you use mplayer then you need w32codecs
[10:46] <deepwoodz> i had to manual jumpstart my network settings
[10:46] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: brb
[10:46] <Kr4t05> OK, I installed vanilla Ubuntu Hoary and upgraded to Breezy, and them got kubuntu-desktop. Does this make my system true Kubuntu? Or, do I need to do something else?
[10:47] <Txukie> Kr4t05: it does
[10:47] <Kr4t05> But, my terminal takes 'sudo' instead of 'kdesu'
[10:48] <Txukie> Kr4t05: terminal doesnt work through kdesu or gksudo
[10:48] <Txukie> always through sudo
[10:48] <Kr4t05> ah
[10:48] <Kr4t05> ok
[10:48] <Txukie> well it does work but its not the good way of doing it
[10:48] <Kr4t05> :P
[10:49] <Txukie> AFA you are willing to learn that doesnt matter ;)
[10:50] <inteliwasp> how do i delete a directory on the command line if there are thing in it?
[10:50] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: rm -r dir
[10:50] <patrix> -r = recursive
[10:51] <iris> hi, can't find kubuntu-desktop, whats's the apt source, please?
[10:51] <Txukie> patrix:  i think its actually -R
[10:52] <patrix> I've used -r since 1996
[10:52] <patrix> man rm will answer the question of course
[10:52] <patrix>        -r, -R, --recursive
[10:52] <patrix>               remove the contents of directories recursively
[10:53] <Txukie> patrix: funny ive always thought that -r was something else
[10:53] <patrix> heh
[10:53] <patrix> maybe in some other command
[10:53] <Txukie> i even make -Rf to delete folders
[10:53] <patrix> like ls, for example, -R and -r are diff
[10:54] <Txukie> yeah i think chmod too
[10:54] <Txukie> sorry for my mistake :(
[10:54] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: ok i did the install on gcc...
[10:54] <Txukie> iris: in dapper its in main
[10:54] <celerate> I think it worked :-)
[10:54] <Txukie> in breezy im not sure it might be in universe
[10:54] <celerate> it didn't lag on bootup, no complaints about npt.ubuntu.org being unreachable
[10:55] <deepwoodz> damn it sitll not workin anyone else ran into the password not workin 4 systemsettings or for kcontrol (well i can access admin mode now it just doesnt save anything)
[10:55] <celerate> damn, it just piggybacked on another "default" network again >:-(
[10:56] <celerate> someone tell me how to keep this bugger off "default" networks please.
[10:56] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: i gotta go now, sorry
[10:57] <inteliwasp> will you be back on later?
[10:57] <Txukie> celerate: have you tried manually editing /etc/network/interfaces
[10:57] <Txukie> ?
[10:57] <luisito> which are the packages I should always install to compile programs?
[10:57] <iris> Txukie, i am on breezy
[10:57] <Txukie> luisito: build-essential
[10:58] <Txukie> iris: try uncommenting your universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: yes, later
[10:58] <celerate> Txukie: yes
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: i am guessing 3-4 hours
[10:58] <Txukie> can i take a look at it celerate
[10:58] <inteliwasp> purfect!
[10:58] <FlatAlex> apt-get keeps asking for the dapper flight4 cd when i try to install new files ... is this really necessary??
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: cool, later then
[10:59] <luisito> Txukie: so I should do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:59] <luisito> ?
[10:59] <Txukie> FlatAlex: probably, unless u delete the cdrom line in sources.list
[10:59] <Txukie> luisito: yes
[10:59] <_thumper_> does anyone here know how to map AltGr to Alt?
[11:00] <FlatAlex> why shold i want the cdrom line in sources.list?
[11:00] <darnell> how do i change and download themes with kubuntu
[11:00] <darnell> is there an art manager?
[11:00] <Txukie> FlatAlex: because its quicker than downloadin stuff from the net
[11:01] <luisito> Txukie: thanks
[11:01] <FlatAlex> oh, well :-) good point, hehe
[11:01] <patrix> Txukie: however you don't get the updates that way
[11:02] <FlatAlex> and uhm ... did anybody get gmailfs to work?
[11:02] <patrix> yeah I did, FlatAlex
[11:02] <darnell> how do i change and download themes with kubuntu
[11:02] <patrix> it was crap lol
[11:02] <FlatAlex> :-) why?
[11:03] <patrix> FlatAlex: it was slow, for some reason only root was able to access it
[11:03] <patrix> I didn't try to figure out why only root, cause it was so slow anyway
[11:03] <Kyral> darnell: Go to someplace like KDE-Look.org, find one you like, and then open the Theme Manager (System Settings -> Appearance)
[11:04] <Kyral> Tell it you want to install a new theme and when the location box pops up, drag (literally) the download link into the box
[11:04] <Txukie> kubuntu conf manager doesnt include anything to change your theme
[11:04] <Txukie> you have to use kcontrol instead
[11:04] <FlatAlex> patrix: :-( it doesnt work for me, the gmailfs.py  throws an exception ... maybe they changed something with the login
[11:05] <Kyral> Txukie: It does :P
[11:05] <Kyral> System Settings Applet :P
[11:05] <Txukie> Kyral: AKA kcontrol
[11:06] <Txukie> in an applet :P
[11:06] <patrix> FlatAlex: I followed instructions I found on ubuntuforums.org
[11:06] <Kyral> I see no difference lol
[11:06] <Txukie> what i meant is that under the system settings its not accesible
[11:06] <Txukie> which is stupid IMO
[11:07] <iris> Txukie, i look
[11:07] <Kyral> Txukie: KControl isn't installed by default?
[11:07] <Txukie> patrix: sorry patrix i lost wot u were saying
[11:07] <Txukie> Kyral: it is but no link on KDE menu
[11:08] <Kyral> Then how did one get on mine?
[11:08] <Kyral> Oh wait I'm on Dapper :D
[11:08] <patrix> heh
[11:09] <patrix> argh why do I always read diaper instead of dapper?
[11:09] <Kyral> lol
[11:09] <celerate> there it goes again, every time I reboot my laptop goes into another "default" network no matter what
[11:09] <zi99y> hola folks
[11:10] <Kyral> So yah I think I should take a buncha the "Service Menu" scripts from KDE-Look and put them all in one massive "konqueror-service-menus" package
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[11:11] <Txukie> Kyral: im on dapper and not on mine
[11:11] <Kyral> Txukie: *Shrug*
[11:11] <Txukie> celerate: i have sent you a PM
[11:11] <Kyral> Dunno what I installed lol
[11:16] <Txukie> poor celerate keeps rebooting his computer LOL
[11:18] <celerate> Txukie, yeah I got the PM and replied
[11:18] <Txukie> havent seen it
[11:18] <celerate> I don't see why having to reboot is funny
[11:18] <Txukie> im just kidding celerate ;)
[11:18] <celerate> ok
[11:18] <Txukie> cant see your message
[11:19] <celerate> I think ndiswrapper is trying to work on an interface called wlan0, but I don't have one, my wireless interface is called ath0 and has that same alias
[11:20] <Txukie> if your card can get the mac address of your router that means you can use wifi
[11:20] <iris> Txukie, thanks a lot!
[11:20] <Txukie> so driver is working fine
[11:20] <Txukie> i dont know if you can use wpa supplicant with ndiswrapper
[11:21] <Txukie> you are using windows drivers after all
[11:21] <Kr4t05> Anyone got a tip for cleaning out old .desktop files quickly and easily?
[11:21] <celerate> well that sucks
[11:21] <Txukie> celerate easiest thing really
[11:21] <Kr4t05> My menu is filled with old apps that I removed, and I don't want to go through and remove them by hand.
[11:22] <Txukie> is to configure your router to accept only connections from your mac address
[11:22] <Txukie> and then not use any password
[11:22] <Txukie> thats what i do
[11:22] <Foodcoman> Anyone have any idea why Konqueror would not start and just dies?
[11:22] <Txukie> and i guarantee nobody has gotten in my connection yet
[11:23] <Txukie> Foodcoman: start it from a konsole
[11:23] <celerate> mac filtering is easily circumvented
[11:23] <Txukie> if you know the mac address that you have to use ;)
[11:23] <Txukie> and theres like 10 billion combinations
[11:23] <Txukie> or so
[11:24] <Foodcoman> Wont start.
[11:24] <Foodcoman> Cursor drops to next line and that its.
[11:24] <Txukie> Foodcoman: whats the output
[11:24] <Foodcoman> BRB
[11:24] <celerate> Txukie, that's what packet sniffers are for
[11:24] <deepwoodz> did they get rid of kde 3.5.2 unstable already?
[11:24] <Txukie> tcp/ip packs dont have your mac address on them
[11:26] <darnell> why is kde so slow..
[11:26] <darnell> adept wont load, or it takes 10 minutes
[11:26] <tsdgeos> deepwoodz: kde 3.5.2 does not exist yet
[11:26] <celerate> Txukie, maybe, but I'm still airing on the side of caution
[11:26] <darnell> wont install java
[11:26] <celerate> the packets can still be analyzed for personal information
[11:28] <epzt> hi all
[11:28] <Txukie> yeah but wpa isnt gonna save you from that
[11:28] <Txukie> look theres a digram of tcp packets
[11:28] <Txukie> http://www.netfor2.com/tcp.htm
[11:28] <darnell> sucks, im going back go gnome
[11:29] <Txukie> celerate: trust me i know what im talking about ive got a degree in netwrks
[11:29] <epzt> dsl connction not started automaticaly at boot time, must allways use pppoeconf to reconfig it and start it
[11:29] <Txukie> darnell: java and gnome have absolutely nothing to do
[11:33] <Txukie> am i the only one that updates its repos for updates every 3 hours or so?
[11:33] <Txukie> i think im apt-addicted
[11:33] <Kr4t05> Txukie: Same here.
[11:34] <Txukie> Kr4t05: well i like synaptic but i prefer console
[11:34] <Txukie> and i dont like adept
[11:35] <Kr4t05> Hrm
[11:35] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have any idea how to clear out my menu of old links?
[11:36] <Txukie> u mean unused ones?
[11:36] <aseigo> old links?
[11:36] <Kr4t05> Yes
[11:36] <Kr4t05> Smeg won't apply changes when I use it.
[11:37] <Kr4t05> :/
[11:37] <Txukie> i thought they were just deleted when u took them off your kde menu
[11:37] <__P__3> hi
[11:37] <__P__3> i can' connect to msn using kopete
[11:37] <Kr4t05> They are deleted, I just don't know how to get them off of my KDE menu.
[11:37] <__P__3> i am alone?
[11:37] <epzt> why must allways reconfi my dsl connection every time at start my box ?
[11:37] <celerate> running wpa_supplicant by hand gives me this: "WPA: Failed to parse WPA IE from association info"
[11:38] <aseigo> Kr4t05: use the kde menu editor instead? perhaps smeg is doing something wrong
[11:39] <Txukie> celerate: sorry that beats me i dont know wot it could be
[11:39] <Txukie> celerate: consider what ive told you though
[11:39] <celerate> well at least I'm making some kind of progress, I've got the wireless AP mac address up again
[11:39] <_P_> are here with problem connecting to msn using kopete?
[11:39] <celerate> or at least I did for a while :-/
[11:39] <Txukie> im ok with amsn at the minute
[11:40] <_P_> no amsn
[11:40] <_P_> but kopete
[11:40] <_P_> amsn works
[11:40] <celerate> 8-o
[11:40] <celerate> it worked
[11:41] <Txukie> nice!
[11:41] <Txukie> congratulations
[11:41] <celerate> amazing
[11:43] <Txukie> _P_: have you correctly configured kopete?
[11:43] <celerate> I'm not sure, the network is connecting, but no internet :-p
[11:44] <celerate> it's progress though :-)
[11:44] <Txukie> dns?
[11:44] <Txukie> try ping an ip address
[11:44] <_P_> Txukie:  how?
[11:44] <_P_> it works until yersterday
[11:44] <Kr4t05> Ok
[11:45] <Txukie> sorry _P_ was talking to celerate
[11:45] <Txukie> ok _P_ now with you let em open kopete
[11:45] <Kr4t05> I used KDE Menu Editor, but the changes aren't showing up. Do I need to restart KDE?
[11:45] <Txukie> Kr4t05: maybe just kicker
[11:45] <celerate> ok, I've got a connection, but I'm not getting an IP address
[11:46] <celerate> maybe it's not configured for DHCP?
[11:46] <Txukie> dhclient ethX
[11:47] <Txukie> _P_ kopete is working fine for me with msn
[11:47] <Kr4t05> Txukie: How do I restart the kicker? (taskbar, I take it?
[11:47] <_P_> thanks
[11:47] <Txukie> killall kicker
[11:47] <Tm_T> _P_: Kopete is not connecting?
[11:47] <Syns> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:47] <celerate> iwconfig is giving me good info in the ap though, now I'm not sure why I'm not getting internet
[11:47] <Syns> can someone tell me what that is?
[11:48] <celerate> or an IP address
[11:48] <Kyral> celerate: maybe its a shit signal
[11:48] <Txukie> _P_ try deleting all kopete config from your home directory and start over again from default
[11:48] <Kr4t05> Txukie: No dice. For some reason, KDE Menu Editor isn't applying my changes
[11:49] <Txukie> i had that problem once
[11:49] <_P_> done twice
[11:49] <Txukie> with a quake icon
[11:49] <Kr4t05> I'm tempted to reinstall KDE
[11:49] <Tm_T> _P_: try another protocol
[11:50] <Txukie> _P_ did you delete your config folder under ur home=?
[11:50] <ailean> hey guys. i have wine installed, and can't get ie6 to install.  i know it SHOULD work, but not on my machine. can anyone help?
[11:50] <celerate> what are the permissions supposed to be on the file /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:51] <Tm_T> celerate: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 399 2006-01-30 20:10 /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <Txukie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 633 2006-03-08 21:33 /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <celerate> if I have 477 instead of 633 would that cause a problem?
[11:52] <_P_> Tm_T:  same problem with icq
[11:52] <_P_> but irc works
[11:52] <Tm_T> heh
[11:52] <Txukie> ..............
[11:52] <Txukie> try opening ports
[11:52] <Txukie> _P_
[11:52] <celerate> me opening ports, or was that for someone else?
[11:52] <Tm_T> _P_: then Kopete works, sounds like firewall problem to me
[11:52] <_P_> i have no firewall :D
[11:53] <Tm_T> you do
[11:53] <_P_> it ask me for passwd
[11:53] <Tm_T> aha?
[11:53] <Txukie> _P_ router?
[11:53] <Tm_T> bah, sleep ->
[11:53] <Txukie> _P_ check in your connection settings
[11:54] <Txukie> in kopete/msn
[11:54] <Txukie> try using the HTTP method
[11:56] <verden> can anyone tell me the chat site for dapper?
[11:56] <_P_> with http metod works
[11:56] <avu> verden: #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <_P_> thanks
[11:56] <verden> cool thanks
[11:57] <Txukie> _P_ firewall as i told you
[11:59] <zielony> How can I mount bin image file ?
[12:01] <HymnToLife> !bin
[12:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:01] <avu> zielony: convert it to an iso image with bchunk, then mount that with mount -oloop
[12:01] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to set system time via the terminal?
[12:01] <avu> kr4t05: date
[12:02] <Kr4t05> avu: Thanks
[12:02] <HymnToLife> with sudo