=== ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port164-173.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.156.180] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.156.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nictuku [n=yves@201-24-182-233.bsace706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] hi [01:07] hi === JustinLynn [n=justin@wlbg-00-0014.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nate__ [n=nate@198.150.12.33] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] hallo, can anyone point me to any resources that outline hacking the ubuntu install? I'd like to customize an install for forensics, possibly adding a package or two [01:12] nate__, search the wiki for customizing install cds === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] Burgwork, thanks :D [01:15] Burgwork: ping [01:17] whiprush, pong [01:17] Burgwork: hey what was that filtering extension you mentioned the other day? [01:18] whiprush, filtering extension to what? [01:18] whiprush, the one that ogra wants to package? Willow [01:19] yeah [01:19] thanks [01:19] if you package that, I will love you forever (well, maybe not) [01:20] slomo: Done. [01:20] infinity: thanks [01:21] infinity, got chance to look at that code yet [01:23] Mez: Nah, launchpad ate my baby. I can look at it right nowish, whilst waking up. [01:23] infinity, cool [01:24] you need the link again? [01:26] Nah, my irssi never forgets. [01:26] Burgwork, I lub you [01:26] nate__, really? wow [01:27] Burgwork, that was PRECISELY what I was looking for and it has made my workload TONS lighter. [01:27] infinity: just waking up now? [01:27] nate__, now can you write a pygtk tool to make the process easier? [01:27] ajmitch: *grunt* [01:28] ajmitch: was up late last night (and technically, I work from 11am to 7pm, cause I just hate mornings THAT MUCH) [01:29] I can sympathise with that [01:29] Burgwork, let me get on that.....sometime in the next century..... [01:30] nate__, ok [01:30] Burgwork, but I wouldn't mind some better GUI development IDEs myself, tell me if you come accross any that are worth their salt. [01:30] infinity: failed again... seems to be a buildd failure... http://librarian.launchpad.net/1663088/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-powerpc.liboil_0.3.7-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:30] Burgwork, I even bought komodo from activestate...what a wasted $300 [01:31] infinity: all other builds on ross fail the same way [01:31] slomo: I know. Fixing. === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nate__ wishes he knew enough to be a developer....good thing we have YOU guys :D === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-187.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mementor [n=ubuntu@dsl-kjngw1-ff83c000-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mattw [n=mattw@opal.cat.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] Kamion: you around? [01:53] whiprush, are you looking at using that for detriot? [01:54] whiprush, s/that/willow === zenbum [n=greg@c-69-181-178-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === woolbeo [n=woolbeo@toby.stoneflytech.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-187.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:18] anyone know this? If I have a remote and a local repository for the same section in the sources.list, 'breezy' for instance, if the remote connection fails, will it failover to the local one? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] are they both breezy main? [02:19] im not sure apt would be very happy if they were [02:19] yeah [02:20] so if i have breezy main universe multiverse resticted [02:20] will it fail over? [02:22] it doesnt complain like I thought [02:23] ok, but that doesn't speak to failover :) [02:23] thanks for checkin it out then [02:26] then = though* [02:27] Yes, it fails over gracefully if the remote repo is unreachable or if the remote repo throws a 404 for a file. [02:27] SWEET :D [02:27] (Well, "remote/local" is meaningless, it starts at the top of the list, and works its way down) [02:27] thanks [02:27] infinity: i lub you, have my babies. that's sooooooo awesome, it makes my job even easier [02:28] I tend to use that feature in the opposite way, by having my local mirror first, then archive.ubuntu.com second. [02:28] yeah, that's what i'm gonna do [02:28] So, if my mirror isn't fresh, is broken, or whatever, I fallback to grabbing files over the slow link to archive (which is always "right") [02:28] so if they take it home [02:29] Our installer does the same thing if you install from CD. [02:29] You'll not it lists the CD entry first, then the http://archive entries. [02:29] So, if your CD doesn't have the right files (not enough space, or they've been updated for security), it falls back to getting it from the network. [02:29] s/not it lists/note it lists/ [02:29] coolness [02:31] Also, I don't want to be a jerk (even if I often am), but these softs of questions should really be asked in #ubuntu... #ubuntu-devel is for development of Ubuntu, not a "talk to the developers about stuff" channel. [02:31] awwww ;D [02:31] s/softs/sorts/ [02:31] I really need to learn to type. [02:32] i know what ya mean [02:33] Well, I'm developing a forensics distro based on ubuntu and wanted to know how that worked because of we would prefer to keep their boxes off the network, but if they did want to take them home we wouldn't want apt to break [02:33] so it actually is development related [02:34] but maybe not related in the way this channel was intended for :D [02:34] so ignore me.. === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.163.172] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-230-40.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-161-210-173.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenbum [n=greg@c-69-181-178-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:26] how do I post images from wiki? [03:27] joelbryan: you mean upload them to the wiki? === mpt__ [n=mpt@219-89-142-110.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:28] Burgundavia: yes! as attachment. === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:30] joelbryan: go to the page you want to add the image to. In the middle of hte screen, there is a drop down menu. Choose "Upload attachment" (I don't remember the exact wording) [03:32] Burgundavia: is it available while editing the page? [03:33] joelbryan: finish editing, the upload [03:33] then upload [03:34] Burgundavia: It's on ubuntu wiki, I [03:34] I can't see any link [03:35] do you see the "more actions" drop down [03:35] ? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:36] Burgundavia: thanks! man, I got it! [03:37] joelbryan: np === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-153-110.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benbo [n=liblit@ppp-70-226-137-244.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === corey_ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:20] Hahah nice. [04:20] wasabi: hmm? [04:21] my gf said she got a pop up message saying that a drive was full [04:21] that message needs to be tweaks [04:21] ed\ [04:21] Is there such a message? [04:21] I haven't seen it yet. [04:22] wasabi, afaik there is on dapper [04:22] I think then it popped up and said our CD was full. [04:22] Which, as most ROMs go, is true. ;) [04:22] yes, and it'll hopefully be disabled/configurable soon [04:23] That's what she says anyways. [04:26] What component is responsible for the notification? === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.10.74.169.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] wasabi: I believe it is gnome-volume-manager and I believe a bug has already been filed === chris38-home2 [n=Christia@mut38-4-82-233-119-151.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje [n=agp@207.67.194.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-187-6064.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:54] Okay....are there any reports of major breakage? [04:59] Kyral: are you having major breakage [04:59] ?? [04:59] yah [04:59] like most of GNOME freaking out [04:59] I try to start GNOME and a crapload of errors come up [05:00] Kyral, define "freaking out" [05:00] Kyral, are you on ia32 / [05:00] ? [05:00] Yah [05:00] x86 [05:01] yes or no to ia32 ? [05:01] Like suddenly NONE of my panel apps come up [05:01] ia32 == x86 last I knew [05:02] KDE works fine [05:02] but it seems like any GTK app fails [05:02] when did you update and get these problems [05:02] and when did you update before then ? [05:02] I'm up to date NOW [05:02] so I can narrow it down [05:02] I've been updating everyday === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-161-210-173.burl.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:02] I just noticed it today because I have been using KDE for the past two days [05:02] doko: ping [05:02] and it worked then :P [05:03] brb switching over to Konversation === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-187.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] Wierd...they seem to work in KDE... [05:06] maybe...could it be the Compositors for XFCE and MetaCity acting up? === Drac[Server] [n=glitch@24.131.173.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:09] Hi. you're going to hate me for this, but I'm afraid the idiots in #ubuntu will only give me X-based support. How the hell do I adjust the keyboard layout for the console? I need to enable USB keyboard support! [05:12] Drac[Server] : I would think "dpkg-reconfigure" might help [05:13] Yes, but for what? [05:13] What package? [05:13] seems like xorg-server or something like that [05:14] ... [05:14] What part of CONSOLE do people not understand?! D: [05:14] xorg-xserver [05:14] I need to change the CONSOLE'S keyboard layour. [05:14] locale perhaps then [05:15] It's xserver-xorg, and that's for X! I don't want to know how to change X's keyboard layout! I want to know how to make the console see my USB keyboard! [05:15] Drac[Server] : Your attitude's probably not helping much, but what you want is dpkg-reconfigure console-data. [05:15] Thats a hardware detection problem [05:15] infinity: ++ [05:15] Drac[Server] : Can you please leave the anger at home the next time you feel the urge to seek free support from "idiots"? [05:16] I've been asking for 30 minutes. [05:16] Drac[Server] : OTOH, if the keyboard isn't working at all, you're likely lacking some hotplug/udev magic to make it go when you plug it in. [05:16] Everyone keeps telling me that I should reconfigure X. [05:16] Drac[Server] : well, honestly that is usually what people want [05:17] The USB keyboard worked fine when the installer was running. Why doesn't it now? [05:17] ... === Kyral twitches at Drac[Server] [05:17] I unplugged it, plugged it back in, and it worked... [05:17] Yanno, I'm gonna leave now before I go BOFH [05:17] I've been a little bitch about this. Sorry. [05:18] Kyral: settle down boy ;-) [05:18] I'm eager to finish this project. [05:18] I'm putting an AT machine in a Tandy 1000 case. :D [05:18] LaserJock: I'm tired and I have an exam tomorrow, and its like 4 days 'til break [05:18] Thanks for the support. :) === Drac[Server] [n=glitch@24.131.173.31] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [05:18] Kyral: maybe you need to go packages something ;-) [05:19] hmm, ok then [05:19] thanks infinity === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.49.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chninkel1away [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luis_ [n=louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luis_ is now known as luisv === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-142-86.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-147-187.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:45] So, any AppArmor asperations? :) === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:50] wasabi: ajmitch is the person to talk to [06:50] k === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:52] Burgundavia: thanks.. [06:52] Heh. [06:52] I'm reading the docs on it now. === mpt_ [n=mpt@222-154-152-118.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:56] ajmitch: do I sense some sarcasm? [06:58] Burgundavia: yes [07:00] ajmitch: I figured it would be better if you shot him down [07:02] Heh. [07:02] So why not, or why not so? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:07] wasabi: basically because selinux is established and apparmour is not [07:07] Didn't think SELInux covered the same use cases. [07:07] it covers all apparmor does & more [07:08] the '& more' part happens to be useful [07:08] k [07:08] Well, I'm just excited about the prospect of the distro (ya'll) being able to distribute a profile for each application which defines what it should have access to. [07:09] which is what we're doing with selinux & modular policy [07:09] cool. ;0 [07:12] just don't expect to see much in dapper [07:14] Completely different subject: Anybody aware of a pam module for recursive group memberships? === desrt uses his WPA home network from his dapper G4 powerbook without a PCMCIA card [07:16] desrt: broadcom driver working nicely then? === mpt__ [n=mpt@219-89-148-42.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:17] ajmitch; it's a bit unstable. my ssh connection seems to die randomly and i have to stop/restart wpa_supplicant and reconnect [07:17] ajmitch; it's been fine for the past 10 mins or so, though [07:17] all told it makes me pretty darn happy [07:18] I should pester BenC to get the latest ipw2200 driver in, if possible [07:18] should be enough time to get some testing in before kernel freeze [07:19] what is ipw2200? [07:19] Intel Pro Wireless 2200 [07:20] intel driver, popular in many laptops these days [07:20] gotcha [07:20] (and 2915) [07:20] i have a bad attitude [07:20] Oh! They released a new stable release of ipw2200. Interesting. [07:20] i'm very much of the "to hell with freezes, i want new everything" mindset [07:22] infinity: that's mainly why I want it, it apparantly fixes a few bugs [07:23] I certainly wouldn't mind it on my 2915 either. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] desrt: you couldn't be part of the that, could you? [07:29] the that? === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-196.elltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:30] infinity, yeah that was mentioned in the ubuntu-devel list === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === makinen [i=makinen@wire158.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-133-56.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-75-114.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kamion [n=cjwatson@83.216.156.196] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.49.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:50] will the OpenOffice splash screens be changed in final version? [07:51] joelbryan: nope [07:51] ;) [07:51] wasabi: I think the later pam/nss-ldap from padl.com supports recursive group memberships [07:51] Burgundavia: why? [07:52] joelbryan: I am kidding === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:53] Good morning === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:53] hey pitti [07:53] how's it going? [07:53] :-) [07:53] look at this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperArtUserProposals/OpenOfficeSplash [07:53] ajmitch: hi! great :) and you? [07:53] still alive, I think === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:54] joelbryan: those look cool [07:55] really?! wow === ajmitch saw them earlier, today, was impressed [07:56] though I'd like it if it was easily selectable, since I don't use brown on my box :) [07:58] bottom one is the best (fits the theme best) [07:58] personally i like the blue tho.. [07:58] i noticed ubununtu on "the real hustle" the other day [07:58] oh, where?' [07:58] ? [07:58] some uk bbc tv show where they go and scam people, then give them ther emoney back and tell them [07:58] they did a wifi scam [07:58] setting up a faek AP [07:58] with fake credit card GW [07:58] in episode 3 [07:58] i think it was ubuntu [07:58] had the screensaver dialog [07:59] that i only saw in ubuntu [07:59] the gnome one from breezy i think it is === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:01] yeah, that sux, people are using ubuntu ship-it cd's for spam purposes. === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.49.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:02] like my friend receive a package mail, with an ubuntu cd and a spam mail. [08:03] joelbryan: was the CD ordered from shipit? [08:03] yes === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:03] it's hoary 5.04 [08:03] joelbryan: what was the 'spam'? [08:04] it's about insurance [08:04] hi Huahua [08:04] joelbryan: did it include a cover letter? [08:05] hi, pitti [08:05] yeah, I'll ask my friend about it. [08:06] I'll tell you every detail about the mail === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] jdub: I need to contact him if he still got the mail, I only know that it's version 5.04, and a insurance plans. [08:13] joelbryan: thanks === Gman is now known as GmanAFK [08:20] I'm trying to add a theme for the shutdown dialog, what source should I get? [08:21] I mean, I will try to add a theme [08:21] joelbryan; gnome-panel [08:21] desrt: is gnome-session included too? [08:21] actually, now that you mention it, i'm not sure [08:21] it's one of the two === Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:22] hi desrt [08:22] thanks === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:23] hello [08:23] where do you live? [08:24] jdub: hi === desrt pokes pitti a bit [08:25] *eek* [08:25] desrt: btw, thanks for your unmount dialog - I modified it a bit and put it into nautilus yesterday [08:26] oh. freakin' awesome. [08:26] gonna be in dapper? [08:26] yes, it was overdue [08:26] you get 3 cool points for that [08:26] desrt: it *is* in dapper :) seb128 will beautify it a bit, but it works [08:26] only 3 points? [08:27] ajmitch; i don't want to encourage overinflation [08:28] ajmitch; cool points are worth a lot :) [08:28] I need to earn some [08:29] getting muine-shell into main would earn you a couple :) [08:29] desrt: how do I see the unmount dialog? [08:30] joelbryan: well, unmount a removable device :) [08:30] joelbryan: it's not actually a 'dialog', just a warning window [08:30] desrt: probably too late for that === herzi [n=herzi@d076161.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:30] pitti; it appears not to have hit the archives yet [08:31] ajmitch; which is why you'd get cool points. it would be a slightly heroic act. [08:32] desrt: and it'd be up to pitti, so he'd deserve the points as well [08:32] it's seriously up to pitti? [08:32] desrt: hm, FTBFS on powerpc... [08:32] i've seen that acronym earlier tonight. what does it mean? [08:32] pitti manages the main inclusion reports === pitti is the main inclusion approval bitch [08:33] oh. this is more suited for universe, i think [08:33] that's cool, it's says "Writing data to CD-RW" and there's a pulsating progress bar. [08:33] erm, CD-RW? [08:33] desrt: Fails To Build From Source. [08:33] infinity; a hah [08:34] there's just eject, but not unmount? [08:34] when I right click in nautilus. [08:34] infinity: [08:34] pitti; incidentally, i first wrote that dialog on a powerpc [08:34] sh: /dev/null: Permission denied [08:34] infinity: WTF?? [08:34] highvoltage: pong [08:35] crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-03-02 10:36 /dev/null [08:35] desrt: oh, the code itself is fine, just seems to be a stupid problem on the buildd [08:35] freshly upgraded and rebooted about an hour ago ^^ [08:35] pitti: Already given-back. [08:35] infinity: ah, thanks [08:35] infinity: oh ia64, too? === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:35] goodnight guys [08:35] pitti: There's a really subtle bug somewhere in something that occasionally (you'll love this one) breaks out of the buildd chroots and resets permissions on /dev/null in the base system. [08:35] ajmitch; earn your cool points. === desrt falls into bed [08:36] infinity: that sounds cool [08:36] infinity: cprov asked me to modify pkgstriptranslations to copy the tarball out of the chroot [08:36] infinity: so you need to teach me about this one :) [08:36] Uhm, say what? [08:36] infinity: seriously, would it be possible to reenable the sbuild hack to get tarballs exported again? [08:36] Did he know what he was asking? :) [08:36] I didn't DISABLE the hack... [08:36] infinity: I explained it :) [08:37] Let me look at it again. [08:37] (Are the uploaded tarballs not quite cutting it yet?) [08:37] infinity: well, rosetta still has some problems with their import [08:37] Joy. [08:38] infinity: carlos had to completely rewrite the import queue, this needs a review and rollout [08:38] infinity: so I'd just like to have a fallback :) === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] pitti: Yeah, uhm, the hack is still there, unmodified... [08:39] pitti: Hasn't changed since the wanna-build days. [08:39] robitaille: posted the dell thing on the fridge - to the front page, too ;) [08:39] hmm, odd [08:40] infinity: any idea why they don't get exported any more? [08:40] anyone tried dapper on top of linux 2.4? [08:40] jdub: that's great [08:40] pitti: I dunno, but I blame you. :) [08:40] pitti: (looking) === pitti hugs infinity [08:41] (and gives him a decent poke in the side for the blame) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:42] pitti: They stopped exporting right after the last upload, so I dunno... Coincidence? :) [08:42] infinity: 'last upload' of what? [08:42] it stopped on Feb 25 [08:42] pitti: pkgstriptranslations [08:42] this might have been the day we switched to the dpkg-distaddfile method [08:42] It was. [08:43] so, the additional .changes entry confuses sbuild? [08:43] At least, if your changelog can be trusted. [08:43] yes, I think it can [08:43] Oh, wait. [08:43] Of course... [08:44] I'll bet our call to export the tarball comes AFTER sbuild moves all the files (referenced in the .changes) from the chroot to the base system. [08:44] Duh. === infinity pokes at that theory. [08:44] sounds plausible at least [08:45] Immediately after, in fact. [08:45] Which would seem to be the correct behaviour, had we wanted to switch completely from method A to method B... [08:45] Which we apparently didn't. :/ === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:46] it's not like I wouldn't want to :/ === smile [n=id@unaffiliated/smile] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:46] Right, well I'll just move our hideous hack up about 40 lines, and you'll get them back again. === mpt__ [n=mpt@222-154-153-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] infinity: thanks [08:47] hi mpt__ === Vylar1978 [i=Vylar197@dialup-4.252.71.61.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] hi pitti === mpt__ is now known as mpt [08:48] Hi every one === Vylar1978 [i=Vylar197@dialup-4.252.71.61.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:50] yes, my dear g-p-m, after telling me 5 times that my battery is charged, I *know* it now === Lathiat laughs === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:53] hey, tonight my g-p-m didn't tell me that my battery was charged. I miss having reminders every 30 seconds :) [08:53] unfortunately the fixed version is ftbfs on powerpc - infinity, could you please try a g-b for g-p-m? [08:53] robitaille: I only saw it once, I'm so unlucky [08:53] hi all [08:54] hi zakame [08:54] hey zakame [08:54] hello pitti ajmitch [08:55] pitti: Given-back, though it may be a victim of an underlying library snag... We'll see. [09:00] pitti: Fixed sbuild rolled out, for great translation justice. [09:00] \o/ === jlje [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-170.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lixus [n=lixuss@lixus.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-196.elltel.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] I can't seems to find where logout is? I tried whereis logout [09:10] joelbryan: It's a shell builtin. [09:10] ok [09:10] joelbryan: "help logout" [09:10] i thought it was from gnome === zachy [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] joelbryan: you are talking about the ubuntu specific logout dialog? [09:11] yes [09:11] Oh, that's something entirely different. :) [09:11] that is gnome-session, no? [09:11] pitti: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34054 [09:11] malone bug 34054 in language-support-ko "language-support-ko needs to be depended on scim-gtk2-immodule" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [09:12] Burgundavia: yes, but it's the old logout dialog. === carlos [n=carlos@84.76.255.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] freeflying: assigned to me, will fix soon [09:14] hi carlos [09:14] joelbryan: can you show me a screenshot of the dialog you want? [09:14] pitti: hi [09:14] pitti: and also language-support-zh [09:15] freeflying: which bug? [09:16] hrm [09:16] bind comes up after ntpdate [09:16] pitti: need add the depends on scim-gtk2-immodlue to language-support-zh [09:16] which hurts for hosts that use local nameserver only [09:16] Burgundavia: the new upstream version, with the logout, switch user, lock screen on top, and at the bottom sleep, hibernate, restart, shutdown. [09:16] joelbryan: the single dialog one? That is not upstream, that is ubuntu specific [09:16] Burgundavia: and at the very bottom, there is a cancel button. [09:17] jdub: move ntp-date :) [09:17] freeflying: ah, I see [09:17] joelbryan: yes, Manu cornet develops that. Probably best to chat with him about it (manu on irc) [09:17] Burgundavia: what package is affected by that? [09:18] pitti: actually , an this be included in the install cd [09:18] s/an/can [09:18] Burgundavia: what package is that?, I can help him. [09:18] pitti: and put scim-qtimm in kubuntu's install cd [09:19] I think it's a good idea to make the fade-out screen brownish or maroon? what do you think? [09:19] s/screen/effects/g [09:20] joelbryan: it is in gnome-session [09:20] freeflying: ok, can you please add that to the bug report? [09:21] pitti: alright [09:21] I compiled the latest gnome-session, but it's the old logout. [09:21] joelbryan: from where? gnome cvs or ubuntu sources? [09:21] ubuntu sources [09:21] pitti: file a new one , or use the existed [09:22] manu is not online, I like to talk to him, for making it pretty [09:22] freeflying: just use the existing one for ko [09:22] pitti: thx [09:23] and I like to share this. I'm fascinated about this observation, can you tell me if this has a sense at all, but when I /usr/lib/cat * > /dev/null everything works faster! tried it too in openoffice and firefox. [09:25]