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| Spec[1] | does anyone have meeting logs for today's meeting? | 03:34 |
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| Spec | bstc_ostl: any chance you can e-mail them to me at dragoncow@gmail.com ? :) | 06:20 |
| MarioMeyer | Spec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2006-03-07 | 06:25 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:robitaille] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 8 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 9 Mar 08:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 10 ar 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 14 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 16 Mar 20:00 UTC: Kubuntu | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:robitaille] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 8 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 9 Mar 08:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 10 Mar 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 14 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 16 Mar 20:00 UTC: Kubuntu | ||
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| BlueFish | hey all | 11:39 |
| BlueFish | I have a slight problem | 11:39 |
| BlueFish | I'm dual booting with windows XP and Ubuntu breezy | 11:39 |
| BlueFish | now this might be a WinXP problem, but I get errors when I plays sound | 11:40 |
| Seveas | BlueFish, this is not the support channel... | 11:43 |
| BlueFish | oh sorry | 11:44 |
| BlueFish | I'll come back with something more relevent. | 11:44 |
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| flint | greetings, it is early and cold in Vermont... | 12:58 |
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| JaneW | hi everyone | 01:01 |
| JaneW | who is here | 01:01 |
| JaneW | ? | 01:01 |
| === ogra hides | ||
| flint | JaneW, flint is flint... good morning, my girl child is vacationing from school, life is hell | 01:02 |
| === jelkner is Jeffrey Elkner | ||
| JaneW | ogra: get*back*here! | 01:03 |
| ogra | heh | 01:03 |
| ogra | but i dont have much to tell today ... | 01:03 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: you in the house? | 01:03 |
| JaneW | pips1_away had to leave | 01:03 |
| jelkner | JaneW: don't let him lie to you, she dragging him to concerts and stuff... life's a *blast*! | 01:03 |
| === highvoltage is here!!!! | ||
| JaneW | is mhz, spacey or jsgotangco here? | 01:03 |
| JaneW | and no kjcole | 01:03 |
| JaneW | ok let start anyway | 01:03 |
| jelkner | kjcole was at FOSE | 01:04 |
| jelkner | he may not make it here today | 01:04 |
| JaneW | ogra: please start, can you do a quick 2 week summary, since I was away last week? | 01:04 |
| flint | I did see George Clinton last night (note not the ex-president:^) | 01:04 |
| ogra | hum ... | 01:04 |
| ogra | i need to dig up last week then .... | 01:04 |
| flint | JaneW, last week we ended the meeting early remember Ollie? | 01:05 |
| JaneW | ogra: ok just this week then if it's a problem | 01:05 |
| === JaneW does not believe it! | ||
| highvoltage | flint: uhm, your previous president was Bill Clinton, not George Clinton ;) | 01:05 |
| ogra | this week i was mainly busy with fixing gnome-screensaver bugs ... there is not much to tell for it ... last week i built the first edubuntu-docs package with highvoltages docs and cared for the CD | 01:05 |
| JaneW | highvoltage 's docs? what the tuXlabs troubleshoot guide? | 01:06 |
| flint | highvoltage, jonathan it should have been George Clinton. P-Funk would have been his cabinet. | 01:06 |
| highvoltage | flint: :) | 01:06 |
| ogra | over the weekend i did the last ltsp merges fro other peoples branches, this was the last merge, now ltsp wont change much apart from bugsfixing | 01:06 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: it's pre-release updates to our howto, which included some Edubuntu stuff | 01:06 |
| flint | ogra, you got a flight to test? | 01:07 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: ogra cleaned it up a bit and packaged it, in order to achieve first draft status in time, iirc | 01:07 |
| JaneW | nice, thanks | 01:07 |
| ogra | flint, flights are announced on the mailing list | 01:07 |
| ogra | i doubt there will be one within this week ... | 01:07 |
| flint | ogra, just wanted you to know I am ready. | 01:07 |
| flint | :^) | 01:07 |
| ogra | note that producing a flight takes two full workdays for me ... | 01:08 |
| === highvoltage apt-gets edubuntu-docs | ||
| ogra | i cant bear to loose two days of a week currently | 01:08 |
| ogra | highvoltage, it has a bug, i'll fix it today | 01:08 |
| JaneW | ogra: when do we expect the next flight? Next week possibly? | 01:08 |
| ogra | but feel free to send me changes | 01:08 |
| highvoltage | ogra: where can i get the ubuntu docs on my system? | 01:09 |
| flint | excellent work you two. my only question is does the apt-get alter the default page of the browser to show the docs? | 01:09 |
| JaneW | how is our testing and bug fixing going this cycle? | 01:09 |
| ogra | JaneW, likely ... i dont know what Kamion does, i guess he wants espresso in shape before the next flight | 01:09 |
| flint | ..to reveal the docs... | 01:09 |
| JaneW | yes espresso is his main priority, infinity may do the next flight | 01:09 |
| ogra | highvoltage, /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ i think | 01:09 |
| highvoltage | flint: i would suggest that the main page link to the docs | 01:09 |
| highvoltage | ogra: ok thanks, i looked in /edubuntu-docs/ | 01:10 |
| ogra | flint, it will | 01:10 |
| flint | highvoltage, bingo. I know how to do this... | 01:10 |
| ogra | highvoltage, you asked for ubuntu-docs :) | 01:10 |
| flint | ogra, ...and so do you... thanks. | 01:10 |
| highvoltage | ogra: oops! ogra, I can't find the edubuntu docs :/ | 01:11 |
| ogra | apart from that i'm currently fiddling with the artwork package | 01:11 |
| === highvoltage looks inside package :) | ||
| ogra | there must be 2 html pages | 01:11 |
| ogra | but they have a bug, the patch is wrong ... i havent looked into it yet | 01:11 |
| ogra | *path | 01:12 |
| ogra | if you cant find them, just get the source packlage | 01:12 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i got it, i think i was to hasty in getting there | 01:12 |
| ogra | apt-get source edubuntu-docs | 01:12 |
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| spacey | hi ;o | 01:13 |
| JaneW | ogra: how is the roadmap to the release looking? Do you want to publish something on the wiki? | 01:13 |
| JaneW | hi spacey | 01:13 |
| highvoltage | oosh. /me finds some old typos. | 01:13 |
| ogra | not yet ... i'm to busy with ubuntu stuff ... | 01:13 |
| highvoltage | ogra: can I just make changes to that html file, and send it back to you? | 01:13 |
| ogra | the screensaver still needs a lot of love | 01:13 |
| ogra | yup | 01:13 |
| ogra | thats why i picked html ... | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | ok excellent. | 01:14 |
| flint | ogra, I am really sorry I missed mdz's performance in London - not! :^) | 01:14 |
| ogra | we can convert it later into something sane | 01:14 |
| ogra | (and if we miss that we still have html :) ) | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | yep :) (i'm completely fine with html) | 01:14 |
| ogra | oh, i'm working on a edubuntu menu logo, many people were intrested in that | 01:15 |
| highvoltage | ogra: about the testing, do you feel that we need more testing, and can you elaborate on where we need more testing? | 01:15 |
| JaneW | so where does that leave us ito the cook book? | 01:15 |
| ogra | highvoltage, all the time ... | 01:15 |
| flint | highvoltage, I standby ready to test. | 01:15 |
| JaneW | ogra: yay thanks - re logo, that will help | 01:15 |
| ogra | highvoltage, major area is ltap and indeed the edu stuff that distinguishes use from ubuntu | 01:16 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i've been testing it quite intensely for the last week or so, and I can't find new things that's wrong with it anymore | 01:16 |
| flint | ogra, ltap == ltsp? | 01:16 |
| ogra | JaneW, it doesnt look much different ... i even doubt people recognize the difference at this size ... | 01:16 |
| highvoltage | cross bewteen ldap and ltsp?" | 01:16 |
| ogra | flint, yes | 01:16 |
| flint | ogra, so inventing new protocols again eh? :^) | 01:17 |
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| ogra | highvoltage, the fix for the ssh-key creation sould be in the package this week ... so there will be testinstalls needed | 01:17 |
| JaneW | ogra: I think ppl notice it's not right, but may not notice when it is... | 01:17 |
| ogra | JaneW, yep | 01:17 |
| jelkner | ogra: what does ltap stand for? | 01:18 |
| ogra | for a typo | 01:18 |
| flint | jelkner, it was a typo!! | 01:18 |
| jelkner | sorry ;-) | 01:18 |
| ogra | s is aside a on my keyboard ... :) | 01:18 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: on the cookbook question, i think that dapper won't include the entire cookbook, just the software and technical module updates from tuxlab howto 2.0 | 01:19 |
| JaneW | ok, but does that mean all the other cook book effort was in vain, or will that still be used? | 01:19 |
| highvoltage | ogra: can you confirm that i'm correct there? | 01:19 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: it will still be used | 01:19 |
| jelkner | JaneW: have you seen the wiki? | 01:19 |
| ogra | highvoltage, yes | 01:19 |
| JaneW | ok, good | 01:19 |
| === JaneW is glad | ||
| highvoltage | JaneW: the new modules will just be swallowed by the work already done | 01:20 |
| JaneW | jelkner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook ? | 01:20 |
| ogra | JaneW, its just not ready enough yet ... | 01:20 |
| jelkner | JaneW: and it won't be by release | 01:20 |
| JaneW | ogra: ok, so we can publish it on the wiki then etc | 01:20 |
| jelkner | the cookbook is shaping up to be a community document | 01:20 |
| ogra | but we wont ship without docs, thats why we coose the current path | 01:20 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: but we will have the basic documentation covered | 01:20 |
| jelkner | it will evolve as users submit "recipes" on how they use Edubuntu | 01:21 |
| JaneW | jelkner: ok, but let's not lose momentum and let it die out. It needs to be finished and used | 01:21 |
| === ogra still needs to put a day into the ltsp specifics ... | ||
| JaneW | ok | 01:21 |
| highvoltage | which covers installation, troubleshooting, basic tweaking, some very basic administration, etc. | 01:21 |
| spacey | how to get online | 01:21 |
| spacey | :P | 01:21 |
| jelkner | JaneW: kevin and i plan to continue meeting to work on it | 01:21 |
| spacey | to look for more docs | 01:21 |
| ogra | hehe | 01:21 |
| jelkner | but it will be much easier for us *after* dapper is released | 01:22 |
| jelkner | we won't have to write about a moving target | 01:22 |
| highvoltage | i think the edubuntu cookbook is a big job, i have confidence in flint's drive in it | 01:22 |
| JaneW | jelkner: excellent, thank-you :)) | 01:22 |
| ogra | jelkner, but everything you wrote is obsolete then | 01:22 |
| highvoltage | (and jelkner and kevin, of course) :) | 01:22 |
| ogra | since we have a new moving target | 01:22 |
| jelkner | ogra: why? | 01:22 |
| JaneW | jelkner: I thought you liked a challenge | 01:22 |
| JaneW | jelkner: but point taken | 01:22 |
| JaneW | jelkner: so you'll finish just in time to start the next version | 01:23 |
| highvoltage | perhaps it's just a bigger challenge for ogra to keep good backward compatibility with settings :) | 01:23 |
| JaneW | ? | 01:23 |
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| jelkner | lol | 01:23 |
| highvoltage | this version is a bigger job than future versions, | 01:23 |
| spacey | anyway i fill fix up the hardware requirements page of the cookbook before next meeting | 01:23 |
| highvoltage | because the first version was based on K12-LTSP | 01:23 |
| ogra | jelkner, 80% of the stuff i'd have written for breezy would have to be wiped for dapper the distro changes with every release | 01:23 |
| spacey | that worksheet is completely empty btw | 01:23 |
| JaneW | spacey: thanks | 01:23 |
| highvoltage | once it's edubunturised, it will be easier to update | 01:23 |
| jelkner | as it grows, it will be easier to update | 01:23 |
| JaneW | oh and congrats to spacey | 01:23 |
| spacey | does it correspond with the work that has been done? | 01:23 |
| spacey | JaneW: thanks :) | 01:23 |
| JaneW | he was granted ubuntu memebership yesterday | 01:23 |
| highvoltage | what's currently the biggest challenge with the cookbook? | 01:24 |
| highvoltage | spacey: cool, congrats! | 01:24 |
| spacey | yey thanks | 01:24 |
| spacey | :P | 01:24 |
| jelkner | highvoltage: getting people to submit recipes | 01:24 |
| flint | never forget the groucho marx quote "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." | 01:24 |
| flint | :^) | 01:24 |
| highvoltage | ah, right. it's more than just a howto, right? it contains a bunch of mini-howto's too? | 01:24 |
| jelkner | highvoltage: exactly | 01:25 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: i could get you some tuxlab-specific recipies, which could be modified. | 01:25 |
| jelkner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook | 01:25 |
| spacey | well you need to cover the basics first | 01:25 |
| mhz | spacey: wow! congrats!! | 01:25 |
| jelkner | highvoltage: go for it | 01:25 |
| spacey | mhz: ty:) | 01:25 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: i'll try to have it upline before the end of the meeting | 01:26 |
| spacey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Worksheet <<-- almost empty | 01:26 |
| highvoltage | *online | 01:26 |
| flint | spacey, congratulations on the membership btw... | 01:27 |
| spacey | ty | 01:27 |
| flint | ok, regarding the book, I think what you lack is an editor. | 01:27 |
| highvoltage | flint: i thought you were the editor? | 01:28 |
| jelkner | flint: kevin and i will do that | 01:28 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: no jelkner and kjcole are editing | 01:28 |
| flint | highvoltage, see what i mean? writers love to be editors... | 01:28 |
| spacey | jelkner: maybe add an extra column which describes the status(completed, wip, etc) for each chapter to the worksheet. | 01:28 |
| flint | like programmers love to be developers... | 01:28 |
| JaneW | spacey: that's a good idea | 01:28 |
| jelkner | good idea, spacey, i'll add that presently... | 01:28 |
| highvoltage | flint: if i love to create, what does that make me? | 01:29 |
| JaneW | jelkner: : you can use my cool colours too | 01:29 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: a father? | 01:29 |
| JaneW | *duck* | 01:29 |
| flint | jelkner, you are the writer, not the editor. an editor manages the work. | 01:29 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: eh.. not yet, no :) | 01:29 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: sorry, just kidding | 01:29 |
| highvoltage | :) | 01:29 |
| flint | JaneW, you do as good a job of this as anyone... but I would say your plate is full. | 01:29 |
| JaneW | I could look at *some* of it | 01:30 |
| highvoltage | you know, when it comes to writing, there's nothing like a bit of pressure | 01:30 |
| JaneW | but can;t volunteer for the whole job as I'd never manage to finish it | 01:30 |
| flint | highvoltage, it makes you a jewel, a pearl of rare price... | 01:30 |
| highvoltage | what about setting a deadline, even if it's unreasonable, for say, the end of April for a complete first draft? | 01:30 |
| jelkner | ok, status column is there. kjcoloe and i will update that this sunday | 01:31 |
| spacey | maybe also add some quality control, personally i think each chapter should at least be checked twice by other persons. a tech person and a grammer nazi. | 01:31 |
| highvoltage | and then we make someone like flint the editor and give him the whip? | 01:31 |
| flint | highvoltage, indeed a writer needs a fixed goal. | 01:31 |
| flint | highvoltage, oh i so much prefer the blade... | 01:31 |
| highvoltage | spacey: absolutely | 01:31 |
| highvoltage | flint: that can be arranged | 01:31 |
| flint | JaneW, or deadline is march 26 or so. where is that url? | 01:32 |
| JaneW | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule | 01:32 |
| flint | thank you jane | 01:32 |
| JaneW | March 23rd | 01:32 |
| JaneW | Doc Freeze | 01:32 |
| spacey | so | 01:33 |
| highvoltage | i don't think it's realistic that a high-quality, finished document will be available by then :/ | 01:33 |
| flint | JaneW, indeed i misspoke from memory. | 01:33 |
| spacey | thats hard work :P | 01:33 |
| flint | highvoltage, you can have it good, cheap or fast. pick two. | 01:34 |
| highvoltage | flint: good, cheap | 01:34 |
| highvoltage | perhaps we should arrange another meeting for docs? | 01:35 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: time to move on? | 01:35 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: yes | 01:35 |
| JaneW | ok, web site? | 01:35 |
| highvoltage | sure. | 01:35 |
| highvoltage | the proto.edubuntu.org.za is set up | 01:35 |
| JaneW | but we can't see it... | 01:36 |
| === flint listening to elkner whine on voice... | ||
| highvoltage | i'll send the username and passowrd to everyone with gpg keys on launchpad soon | 01:36 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: ok thanks :) | 01:36 |
| highvoltage | there's not much to see at the moment, Znarl could only give me login access to the server today | 01:36 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: so how does it look? | 01:36 |
| highvoltage | so the theming fun will only start from now | 01:36 |
| JaneW | oic | 01:36 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: like a very dull plain drupal site | 01:37 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: have you got your ideas worked out? | 01:37 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: due to change shortly | 01:37 |
| JaneW | great | 01:37 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: yep, mostly. | 01:37 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i haven't worked out how they'll fit in with philips plans, but we'll make it work. | 01:37 |
| JaneW | ok, are the 2 of you in contact? | 01:37 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: yes, almost every day | 01:38 |
| JaneW | there are only about 5 weeks to get everything sorted, with Easter in between | 01:38 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: excellent thanks | 01:38 |
| highvoltage | Easter is probably when I'll get the bulk of it done | 01:38 |
| highvoltage | i'd like to get the theming and layout sorted ASAP | 01:38 |
| JaneW | oh... yay then | 01:38 |
| highvoltage | and then pump in content, especially over easter | 01:38 |
| highvoltage | when people stop bothering me | 01:38 |
| JaneW | are you wroking independently from the official 6.04 theme? | 01:39 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: also we are thinking about using that wallpaper I showed earlier - esp if the guy tones it down a notch | 01:40 |
| highvoltage | i looked at the style-guides, apart from that, i haven't seen a 6.04 theme yet | 01:40 |
| JaneW | for the young version anyway | 01:40 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: i think he'll need to tone it down quite drastically, it won't look nice in a lab if it's repeated over 20+ PC's, but i'll send him my suggestions as well | 01:40 |
| JaneW | ogra: which one will be the dfeault again? the older one? | 01:41 |
| highvoltage | ogra: with theming, at one stage it was discussed that debconf will ask which art set you want. is that dapper+1? (i'm thinking cd space here) | 01:41 |
| ogra | JaneW, mid age+ | 01:41 |
| highvoltage | edubuntu girl :) | 01:41 |
| JaneW | ogra: right | 01:41 |
| ogra | highvoltage, nope | 01:41 |
| ogra | we'll install mid age by default | 01:42 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: so that wouldn't be in a lab unless the young one is chosen | 01:42 |
| highvoltage | ok. | 01:42 |
| ogra | the admin can dpkg-reconfigure the edubuntu-artwork package | 01:42 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: I expect home users are more loikely to chose the young install | 01:42 |
| highvoltage | ogra: will all the wallpapers be installed by default, so that a user can choose another one? | 01:42 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: but can you contact him? or should I? | 01:42 |
| ogra | highvoltage, yep | 01:42 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: I don't mind contacting him | 01:42 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: cool thanks - you have a better artistic eye too :) | 01:42 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: I think i will regardless, but you can contact him too if you want | 01:43 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: :) | 01:43 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: you negotiate the changes, and I'll negotioate that he's happy we ship with it (if we do). Ok? | 01:43 |
| JaneW | flint: and you will be happy that it's diversity sensitive | 01:43 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: yes sir! | 01:43 |
| highvoltage | erm.. mam! | 01:43 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: i'll check with the diversification as well ;) | 01:44 |
| highvoltage | but we can make sure that the others are happy too | 01:44 |
| flint | JaneW, absolutely. | 01:44 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: we'll def get a vote on it first | 01:44 |
| JaneW | it will NOT be on my head this time | 01:44 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: of course | 01:45 |
| JaneW | we are talking about a modification of this btw http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Edubuntu-Children_Of_Edubuntu_1024x768.png | 01:45 |
| JaneW | for the Junior wallpaper | 01:45 |
| highvoltage | i'm going to suggest that he makes the heads much smaller, put them at the left halfway in the brown part | 01:46 |
| highvoltage | with the edubuntu logo at the right | 01:46 |
| highvoltage | then make the hill smaller, and add some more hills | 01:46 |
| highvoltage | and put the rainbow on the hill thats closest to the edubuntu logo. | 01:46 |
| ogra | be carefull with the red logo on the green background | 01:46 |
| highvoltage | something like that, and then we modify from there | 01:46 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yeah, the edubuntu logo will have to be more or less completely in the brown | 01:47 |
| highvoltage | ogra, JaneW: are we very strict that the edubuntu logo should keep its colours? | 01:47 |
| ogra | or add a drop shadow if you put it on green ... just dont put it plain into the green | 01:47 |
| highvoltage | if you look at the Ubuntu wallpaper, they modified the logo to fit in with the wallpaper | 01:47 |
| highvoltage | ogra: ok. i agree. | 01:48 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: yes the logo is the logo now, we can;t tinker with it | 01:48 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: so yo are saying he must totally change it! lol (but I agree) | 01:49 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: no, not totally change it, just possible fade it, or make the colours more neutral | 01:50 |
| JaneW | yup, agreed | 01:50 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: like Ubuntu's artwork | 01:50 |
| JaneW | the hues on the current wall paper are nice | 01:50 |
| highvoltage | they are. they remind me of mario brothers, somehow. makes me nostalgic. | 01:50 |
| mhz | :) | 01:50 |
| highvoltage | it has an element of fun that other distro's don't have | 01:51 |
| JaneW | yup | 01:51 |
| JaneW | it's very discriminatory though | 01:51 |
| JaneW | makes me feel marginalised | 01:51 |
| JaneW | because they have no noses ;) | 01:52 |
| JaneW | lol | 01:52 |
| mhz | lol --> EdubuntuGirl_1024x76..> 31-Dec-1969 19:00 56K | 01:52 |
| JaneW | mhz: oh! | 01:52 |
| JaneW | gosh, ok edubuntu - the distro with no nose | 01:52 |
| ogra | damned | 01:53 |
| ogra | we'll get tons of complaints again | 01:53 |
| mhz | highvoltage: when I could finally upload/submit 1 wallpaper for edubuntu dapper (1 month ago or so) it was never shown. Was that too ugly? Then I tried to upload 2 more... unsuccessfully | 01:54 |
| highvoltage | ogra: we'll just cut off their noses, then they can't complain | 01:54 |
| JaneW | ok, do we have anymore real topics to discuss? | 01:54 |
| highvoltage | mhz: the people on your wallpapers had noses. this is unacceptable! | 01:54 |
| mhz | lol | 01:54 |
| highvoltage | mhz: where did you upload it, can we have a look again? | 01:54 |
| mhz | highvoltage: a.u.c | 01:55 |
| JaneW | mhz: to the artwork site? | 01:55 |
| mhz | it took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to do it :( | 01:55 |
| JaneW | mhz: they were prolly never processes - I will log in and look... | 01:55 |
| mhz | JaneW: it is ok, I usually end up disliking my ideas for artwork when I look at them after 2 weeks :) | 01:56 |
| ogra | yeah they need an admin to promote them | 01:56 |
| JaneW | hrm, if I find my login I will do it | 01:56 |
| ogra | just FYI: | 01:56 |
| mhz | lol | 01:56 |
| ogra | http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en | 01:56 |
| ogra | thats the download stats for the swedish mirror | 01:56 |
| ogra | according to it, edubuntu was downloaded 842005 times sucessfully from there between 3 NOV and today | 01:57 |
| ogra | err yesterday | 01:57 |
| mhz | hmm, why there are 5 wallpapers dated 1969, same person? | 01:58 |
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| ogra | they are from the early days of ubuntu ;) | 01:58 |
| mhz | ogra: is that little or lot?\ | 01:58 |
| mhz | ogra: lol | 01:58 |
| highvoltage | ogra: oh my word, that's a *lot* of edubuntu downloads! | 01:58 |
| ogra | eighthundrethousand ? | 01:58 |
| ogra | is that little or lot ? | 01:58 |
| ogra | :) | 01:59 |
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| mhz | ooohhhhhhh, times downloaded!!!!????? | 01:59 |
| highvoltage | it's more than 9 terrabytes of download, if i read correctly | 01:59 |
| ogra | we're still 40000 behind Kubuntu :) | 01:59 |
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| mhz | (more than usual) | 01:59 |
| mhz | ogra: could that info be wrong? | 02:00 |
| mhz | or not accurate? | 02:00 |
| ogra | unlikely | 02:00 |
| JaneW | ogra: oh we told silbs 100 000, when we should have said 1 000 000 | 02:00 |
| mhz | maybe 'tries' to be donwloaded? | 02:00 |
| JaneW | but that sounds WAY too high to me | 02:00 |
| ogra | thats a very big university, i think they get the stats for their servers right | 02:00 |
| ogra | JaneW, look in #c :) | 02:01 |
| ogra | i dont think the stats are wrong ... | 02:01 |
| ogra | (we might interpret them wrongly though... but i doubt that) | 02:01 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: in this case, our estimates of a few thousand was way pesimistic this morning :) | 02:01 |
| JaneW | ogra: what you posted here is magnitude of 10 more | 02:01 |
| ogra | yes | 02:01 |
| === mhz whishes at least 100 of them were teachers providing feedback | ||
| ogra | but what we looked at was a weekly stat | 02:02 |
| JaneW | goeie genaade! | 02:02 |
| ogra | so it sounds about right | 02:02 |
| mhz | JaneW: will edubuntu be shipped this tiem? | 02:03 |
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| mhz | time | 02:03 |
| mhz | highvoltage: c ya | 02:03 |
| ogra | yes | 02:03 |
| flint | later jonathan!!! | 02:03 |
| JaneW | mhz: not yet official | 02:03 |
| ogra | only the install CD though | 02:03 |
| JaneW | mhz: but a probable yes | 02:03 |
| JaneW | *bounce* | 02:03 |
| JaneW | bye highvoltage | 02:04 |
| ogra | (make that a *very* likely) | 02:04 |
| JaneW | thank-you | 02:04 |
| mhz | JaneW: what does this depend on? | 02:04 |
| JaneW | mhz: management | 02:04 |
| ogra | mhz, management decisions | 02:04 |
| mhz | again? | 02:04 |
| mhz | hehehe | 02:04 |
| ogra | always | 02:04 |
| ogra | but its pretty sure already that we'll get it | 02:05 |
| JaneW | mhz: that's how companies work :P | 02:05 |
| mhz | will ubuntu design guys provide CD artwork? | 02:05 |
| mhz | ubuntu = caninial | 02:05 |
| mhz | canonical | 02:05 |
| mhz | .oO(sloppy fingers!) | 02:06 |
| mhz | hello? | 02:09 |
| JaneW | mhz: I *think* so | 02:09 |
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| JaneW | ok is this meeting over? | 02:09 |
| ogra | i'd think so | 02:09 |
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| JaneW | mhz: but if the compnay ships them officially, I think the packaging will be official too | 02:10 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: good timing :P | 02:10 |
| ogra | even jsgotangco comes to clean up the room ... must be over | 02:10 |
| ogra | :) | 02:10 |
| JaneW | ogra: hahaha | 02:10 |
| mhz | JaneW: then, no need to provide it via community? | 02:10 |
| JaneW | mhz: not AFAIK | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | eh? | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | i just finished the day with an edubuntu talk | 02:11 |
| ogra | cool :) | 02:11 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, you missed the download stats look for edubuntu: http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en | 02:12 |
| ogra | :) | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | nnohting to report for me for now till i make an upload this weekend | 02:12 |
| spacey | :) | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | i'll make you guys busy next week | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | ZOMG | 02:13 |
| jsgotangco | Average Bytes Transmitted Daily2,411,884,642,509 | 02:13 |
| sivang | still edubuntu? :) | 02:13 |
| flint | sivang, we are just breaking up... | 02:13 |
| flint | JaneW, expect an email. sksk | 02:13 |
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| JaneW | sksk? | 02:16 |
| JaneW | thanks everyone | 02:16 |
| jsgotangco | cheers | 02:17 |
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