=== ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port164-173.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zenbum [n=greg@c-69-181-178-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zenbum [n=greg@c-69-181-178-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Spec[1] [n=ubuntu@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:34] does anyone have meeting logs for today's meeting? === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-187-6064.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:54] Spec[1] :I have === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === chninkel1away [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.44] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:20] bstc_ostl: any chance you can e-mail them to me at dragoncow@gmail.com ? :) [06:25] Spec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2006-03-07 === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Kamion [n=cjwatson@83.216.156.196] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:robitaille] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 8 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 9 Mar 08:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 10 ar 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 14 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 16 Mar 20:00 UTC: Kubuntu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:robitaille] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 8 Mar 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 9 Mar 08:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 10 Mar 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 14 Mar 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 16 Mar 20:00 UTC: Kubuntu [07:52] another MOTU meeting for me to miss === ajmitch just can't be online then === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === BlueT_ [n=BlueT@61-59-209-195.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-170.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-65-159.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-115-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === BlueFish [n=Redblade@203.212.129.158] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:39] hey all [11:39] I have a slight problem [11:39] I'm dual booting with windows XP and Ubuntu breezy [11:40] now this might be a WinXP problem, but I get errors when I plays sound [11:43] BlueFish, this is not the support channel... [11:44] oh sorry [11:44] I'll come back with something more relevent. === BlueFish [n=Redblade@203.212.129.158] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-57-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cyphase [n=cyphase@69.106.49.195] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-65-159.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === smurf [n=smurf@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jelkner [n=jelkner@dsl093-101-160.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-57-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === flint [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-184.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:58] greetings, it is early and cold in Vermont... === pips1_away [n=philipp@hsz-hgkz.isz.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:01] hi everyone [01:01] who is here [01:01] ? === ogra hides [01:02] JaneW, flint is flint... good morning, my girl child is vacationing from school, life is hell === jelkner is Jeffrey Elkner [01:03] ogra: get*back*here! [01:03] heh [01:03] but i dont have much to tell today ... [01:03] highvoltage: you in the house? [01:03] pips1_away had to leave [01:03] JaneW: don't let him lie to you, she dragging him to concerts and stuff... life's a *blast*! === highvoltage is here!!!! [01:03] is mhz, spacey or jsgotangco here? [01:03] and no kjcole [01:03] ok let start anyway [01:04] kjcole was at FOSE [01:04] he may not make it here today [01:04] ogra: please start, can you do a quick 2 week summary, since I was away last week? [01:04] I did see George Clinton last night (note not the ex-president:^) [01:04] hum ... [01:04] i need to dig up last week then .... [01:05] JaneW, last week we ended the meeting early remember Ollie? [01:05] ogra: ok just this week then if it's a problem === JaneW does not believe it! [01:05] flint: uhm, your previous president was Bill Clinton, not George Clinton ;) [01:05] this week i was mainly busy with fixing gnome-screensaver bugs ... there is not much to tell for it ... last week i built the first edubuntu-docs package with highvoltages docs and cared for the CD [01:06] highvoltage 's docs? what the tuXlabs troubleshoot guide? [01:06] highvoltage, jonathan it should have been George Clinton. P-Funk would have been his cabinet. [01:06] flint: :) [01:06] over the weekend i did the last ltsp merges fro other peoples branches, this was the last merge, now ltsp wont change much apart from bugsfixing [01:06] JaneW: it's pre-release updates to our howto, which included some Edubuntu stuff [01:07] ogra, you got a flight to test? [01:07] JaneW: ogra cleaned it up a bit and packaged it, in order to achieve first draft status in time, iirc [01:07] nice, thanks [01:07] flint, flights are announced on the mailing list [01:07] i doubt there will be one within this week ... [01:07] ogra, just wanted you to know I am ready. [01:07] :^) [01:08] note that producing a flight takes two full workdays for me ... === highvoltage apt-gets edubuntu-docs [01:08] i cant bear to loose two days of a week currently [01:08] highvoltage, it has a bug, i'll fix it today [01:08] ogra: when do we expect the next flight? Next week possibly? [01:08] but feel free to send me changes [01:09] ogra: where can i get the ubuntu docs on my system? [01:09] excellent work you two. my only question is does the apt-get alter the default page of the browser to show the docs? [01:09] how is our testing and bug fixing going this cycle? [01:09] JaneW, likely ... i dont know what Kamion does, i guess he wants espresso in shape before the next flight [01:09] ..to reveal the docs... [01:09] yes espresso is his main priority, infinity may do the next flight [01:09] highvoltage, /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ i think [01:09] flint: i would suggest that the main page link to the docs [01:10] ogra: ok thanks, i looked in /edubuntu-docs/ [01:10] flint, it will [01:10] highvoltage, bingo. I know how to do this... [01:10] highvoltage, you asked for ubuntu-docs :) [01:10] ogra, ...and so do you... thanks. [01:11] ogra: oops! ogra, I can't find the edubuntu docs :/ [01:11] apart from that i'm currently fiddling with the artwork package === highvoltage looks inside package :) [01:11] there must be 2 html pages [01:11] but they have a bug, the patch is wrong ... i havent looked into it yet [01:12] *path [01:12] if you cant find them, just get the source packlage [01:12] ogra: i got it, i think i was to hasty in getting there [01:12] apt-get source edubuntu-docs === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:13] hi ;o [01:13] ogra: how is the roadmap to the release looking? Do you want to publish something on the wiki? [01:13] hi spacey [01:13] oosh. /me finds some old typos. [01:13] not yet ... i'm to busy with ubuntu stuff ... [01:13] ogra: can I just make changes to that html file, and send it back to you? [01:13] the screensaver still needs a lot of love [01:13] yup [01:14] thats why i picked html ... [01:14] ok excellent. [01:14] ogra, I am really sorry I missed mdz's performance in London - not! :^) [01:14] we can convert it later into something sane [01:14] (and if we miss that we still have html :) ) [01:14] yep :) (i'm completely fine with html) [01:15] oh, i'm working on a edubuntu menu logo, many people were intrested in that [01:15] ogra: about the testing, do you feel that we need more testing, and can you elaborate on where we need more testing? [01:15] so where does that leave us ito the cook book? [01:15] highvoltage, all the time ... [01:15] highvoltage, I standby ready to test. [01:15] ogra: yay thanks - re logo, that will help [01:16] highvoltage, major area is ltap and indeed the edu stuff that distinguishes use from ubuntu [01:16] ogra: i've been testing it quite intensely for the last week or so, and I can't find new things that's wrong with it anymore [01:16] ogra, ltap == ltsp? [01:16] JaneW, it doesnt look much different ... i even doubt people recognize the difference at this size ... [01:16] cross bewteen ldap and ltsp?" [01:16] flint, yes [01:17] ogra, so inventing new protocols again eh? :^) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:17] highvoltage, the fix for the ssh-key creation sould be in the package this week ... so there will be testinstalls needed [01:17] ogra: I think ppl notice it's not right, but may not notice when it is... [01:17] JaneW, yep [01:18] ogra: what does ltap stand for? [01:18] for a typo [01:18] jelkner, it was a typo!! [01:18] sorry ;-) [01:18] s is aside a on my keyboard ... :) [01:19] JaneW: on the cookbook question, i think that dapper won't include the entire cookbook, just the software and technical module updates from tuxlab howto 2.0 [01:19] ok, but does that mean all the other cook book effort was in vain, or will that still be used? [01:19] ogra: can you confirm that i'm correct there? [01:19] JaneW: it will still be used [01:19] JaneW: have you seen the wiki? [01:19] highvoltage, yes [01:19] ok, good === JaneW is glad [01:20] JaneW: the new modules will just be swallowed by the work already done [01:20] jelkner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook ? [01:20] JaneW, its just not ready enough yet ... [01:20] JaneW: and it won't be by release [01:20] ogra: ok, so we can publish it on the wiki then etc [01:20] the cookbook is shaping up to be a community document [01:20] but we wont ship without docs, thats why we coose the current path [01:20] JaneW: but we will have the basic documentation covered [01:21] it will evolve as users submit "recipes" on how they use Edubuntu [01:21] jelkner: ok, but let's not lose momentum and let it die out. It needs to be finished and used === ogra still needs to put a day into the ltsp specifics ... [01:21] ok [01:21] which covers installation, troubleshooting, basic tweaking, some very basic administration, etc. [01:21] how to get online [01:21] :P [01:21] JaneW: kevin and i plan to continue meeting to work on it [01:21] to look for more docs [01:21] hehe [01:22] but it will be much easier for us *after* dapper is released [01:22] we won't have to write about a moving target [01:22] i think the edubuntu cookbook is a big job, i have confidence in flint's drive in it [01:22] jelkner: excellent, thank-you :)) [01:22] jelkner, but everything you wrote is obsolete then [01:22] (and jelkner and kevin, of course) :) [01:22] since we have a new moving target [01:22] ogra: why? [01:22] jelkner: I thought you liked a challenge [01:22] jelkner: but point taken [01:23] jelkner: so you'll finish just in time to start the next version [01:23] perhaps it's just a bigger challenge for ogra to keep good backward compatibility with settings :) [01:23] ? === JaneW hides [01:23] lol [01:23] this version is a bigger job than future versions, [01:23] anyway i fill fix up the hardware requirements page of the cookbook before next meeting [01:23] because the first version was based on K12-LTSP [01:23] jelkner, 80% of the stuff i'd have written for breezy would have to be wiped for dapper the distro changes with every release [01:23] that worksheet is completely empty btw [01:23] spacey: thanks [01:23] once it's edubunturised, it will be easier to update [01:23] as it grows, it will be easier to update [01:23] oh and congrats to spacey [01:23] does it correspond with the work that has been done? [01:23] JaneW: thanks :) [01:23] he was granted ubuntu memebership yesterday [01:24] what's currently the biggest challenge with the cookbook? [01:24] spacey: cool, congrats! [01:24] yey thanks [01:24] :P [01:24] highvoltage: getting people to submit recipes [01:24] never forget the groucho marx quote "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." [01:24] :^) [01:24] ah, right. it's more than just a howto, right? it contains a bunch of mini-howto's too? [01:25] highvoltage: exactly [01:25] jelkner: i could get you some tuxlab-specific recipies, which could be modified. [01:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook [01:25] well you need to cover the basics first [01:25] spacey: wow! congrats!! [01:25] highvoltage: go for it [01:25] mhz: ty:) [01:26] jelkner: i'll try to have it upline before the end of the meeting [01:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Worksheet <<-- almost empty [01:26] *online [01:27] spacey, congratulations on the membership btw... [01:27] ty [01:27] ok, regarding the book, I think what you lack is an editor. [01:28] flint: i thought you were the editor? [01:28] flint: kevin and i will do that [01:28] highvoltage: no jelkner and kjcole are editing [01:28] highvoltage, see what i mean? writers love to be editors... [01:28] jelkner: maybe add an extra column which describes the status(completed, wip, etc) for each chapter to the worksheet. [01:28] like programmers love to be developers... [01:28] spacey: that's a good idea [01:28] good idea, spacey, i'll add that presently... [01:29] flint: if i love to create, what does that make me? [01:29] jelkner: : you can use my cool colours too [01:29] highvoltage: a father? [01:29] *duck* [01:29] jelkner, you are the writer, not the editor. an editor manages the work. [01:29] JaneW: eh.. not yet, no :) [01:29] highvoltage: sorry, just kidding [01:29] :) [01:29] JaneW, you do as good a job of this as anyone... but I would say your plate is full. [01:30] I could look at *some* of it [01:30] you know, when it comes to writing, there's nothing like a bit of pressure [01:30] but can;t volunteer for the whole job as I'd never manage to finish it [01:30] highvoltage, it makes you a jewel, a pearl of rare price... [01:30] what about setting a deadline, even if it's unreasonable, for say, the end of April for a complete first draft? [01:31] ok, status column is there. kjcoloe and i will update that this sunday [01:31] maybe also add some quality control, personally i think each chapter should at least be checked twice by other persons. a tech person and a grammer nazi. [01:31] and then we make someone like flint the editor and give him the whip? [01:31] highvoltage, indeed a writer needs a fixed goal. [01:31] highvoltage, oh i so much prefer the blade... [01:31] spacey: absolutely [01:31] flint: that can be arranged [01:32] JaneW, or deadline is march 26 or so. where is that url? [01:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [01:32] thank you jane [01:32] March 23rd [01:32] Doc Freeze [01:33] so [01:33] i don't think it's realistic that a high-quality, finished document will be available by then :/ [01:33] JaneW, indeed i misspoke from memory. [01:33] thats hard work :P [01:34] highvoltage, you can have it good, cheap or fast. pick two. [01:34] flint: good, cheap [01:35] perhaps we should arrange another meeting for docs? [01:35] JaneW: time to move on? [01:35] highvoltage: yes [01:35] ok, web site? [01:35] sure. [01:35] the proto.edubuntu.org.za is set up [01:36] but we can't see it... === flint listening to elkner whine on voice... [01:36] i'll send the username and passowrd to everyone with gpg keys on launchpad soon [01:36] highvoltage: ok thanks :) [01:36] there's not much to see at the moment, Znarl could only give me login access to the server today [01:36] highvoltage: so how does it look? [01:36] so the theming fun will only start from now [01:36] oic [01:37] JaneW: like a very dull plain drupal site [01:37] highvoltage: have you got your ideas worked out? [01:37] JaneW: due to change shortly [01:37] great [01:37] JaneW: yep, mostly. [01:37] JaneW: i haven't worked out how they'll fit in with philips plans, but we'll make it work. [01:37] ok, are the 2 of you in contact? [01:38] JaneW: yes, almost every day [01:38] there are only about 5 weeks to get everything sorted, with Easter in between [01:38] highvoltage: excellent thanks [01:38] Easter is probably when I'll get the bulk of it done [01:38] i'd like to get the theming and layout sorted ASAP [01:38] oh... yay then [01:38] and then pump in content, especially over easter [01:38] when people stop bothering me [01:39] are you wroking independently from the official 6.04 theme? [01:40] highvoltage: also we are thinking about using that wallpaper I showed earlier - esp if the guy tones it down a notch [01:40] i looked at the style-guides, apart from that, i haven't seen a 6.04 theme yet [01:40] for the young version anyway [01:40] JaneW: i think he'll need to tone it down quite drastically, it won't look nice in a lab if it's repeated over 20+ PC's, but i'll send him my suggestions as well [01:41] ogra: which one will be the dfeault again? the older one? [01:41] ogra: with theming, at one stage it was discussed that debconf will ask which art set you want. is that dapper+1? (i'm thinking cd space here) [01:41] JaneW, mid age+ [01:41] edubuntu girl :) [01:41] ogra: right [01:41] highvoltage, nope [01:42] we'll install mid age by default [01:42] highvoltage: so that wouldn't be in a lab unless the young one is chosen [01:42] ok. [01:42] the admin can dpkg-reconfigure the edubuntu-artwork package [01:42] highvoltage: I expect home users are more loikely to chose the young install [01:42] ogra: will all the wallpapers be installed by default, so that a user can choose another one? [01:42] highvoltage: but can you contact him? or should I? [01:42] highvoltage, yep [01:42] JaneW: I don't mind contacting him [01:42] highvoltage: cool thanks - you have a better artistic eye too :) [01:43] JaneW: I think i will regardless, but you can contact him too if you want [01:43] JaneW: :) [01:43] highvoltage: you negotiate the changes, and I'll negotioate that he's happy we ship with it (if we do). Ok? [01:43] flint: and you will be happy that it's diversity sensitive [01:43] JaneW: yes sir! [01:43] erm.. mam! === licio [n=licio@licio.estaminas.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:44] JaneW: i'll check with the diversification as well ;) [01:44] but we can make sure that the others are happy too [01:44] JaneW, absolutely. [01:44] highvoltage: we'll def get a vote on it first [01:44] it will NOT be on my head this time [01:45] JaneW: of course [01:45] we are talking about a modification of this btw http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Edubuntu-Children_Of_Edubuntu_1024x768.png [01:45] for the Junior wallpaper [01:46] i'm going to suggest that he makes the heads much smaller, put them at the left halfway in the brown part [01:46] with the edubuntu logo at the right [01:46] then make the hill smaller, and add some more hills [01:46] and put the rainbow on the hill thats closest to the edubuntu logo. [01:46] be carefull with the red logo on the green background [01:46] something like that, and then we modify from there [01:47] ogra: yeah, the edubuntu logo will have to be more or less completely in the brown [01:47] ogra, JaneW: are we very strict that the edubuntu logo should keep its colours? [01:47] or add a drop shadow if you put it on green ... just dont put it plain into the green [01:47] if you look at the Ubuntu wallpaper, they modified the logo to fit in with the wallpaper [01:48] ogra: ok. i agree. === mhz silently whishes everyone uploaded SVG's + png's or jpg's [01:48] highvoltage: yes the logo is the logo now, we can;t tinker with it [01:49] highvoltage: so yo are saying he must totally change it! lol (but I agree) [01:50] JaneW: no, not totally change it, just possible fade it, or make the colours more neutral [01:50] yup, agreed [01:50] JaneW: like Ubuntu's artwork [01:50] the hues on the current wall paper are nice [01:50] they are. they remind me of mario brothers, somehow. makes me nostalgic. [01:50] :) [01:51] it has an element of fun that other distro's don't have [01:51] yup [01:51] it's very discriminatory though [01:51] makes me feel marginalised [01:52] because they have no noses ;) [01:52] lol [01:52] lol --> EdubuntuGirl_1024x76..> 31-Dec-1969 19:00 56K [01:52] mhz: oh! [01:52] gosh, ok edubuntu - the distro with no nose [01:53] damned [01:53] we'll get tons of complaints again [01:54] highvoltage: when I could finally upload/submit 1 wallpaper for edubuntu dapper (1 month ago or so) it was never shown. Was that too ugly? Then I tried to upload 2 more... unsuccessfully [01:54] ogra: we'll just cut off their noses, then they can't complain [01:54] ok, do we have anymore real topics to discuss? [01:54] mhz: the people on your wallpapers had noses. this is unacceptable! [01:54] lol [01:54] mhz: where did you upload it, can we have a look again? [01:55] highvoltage: a.u.c [01:55] mhz: to the artwork site? [01:55] it took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to do it :( [01:55] mhz: they were prolly never processes - I will log in and look... [01:56] JaneW: it is ok, I usually end up disliking my ideas for artwork when I look at them after 2 weeks :) [01:56] yeah they need an admin to promote them [01:56] hrm, if I find my login I will do it [01:56] just FYI: [01:56] lol [01:56] http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en [01:56] thats the download stats for the swedish mirror [01:57] according to it, edubuntu was downloaded 842005 times sucessfully from there between 3 NOV and today [01:57] err yesterday [01:58] hmm, why there are 5 wallpapers dated 1969, same person? === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-57-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [01:58] they are from the early days of ubuntu ;) [01:58] ogra: is that little or lot?\ [01:58] ogra: lol [01:58] ogra: oh my word, that's a *lot* of edubuntu downloads! [01:58] eighthundrethousand ? [01:58] is that little or lot ? [01:59] :) === highvoltage wonders if it's right [01:59] ooohhhhhhh, times downloaded!!!!????? [01:59] it's more than 9 terrabytes of download, if i read correctly [01:59] we're still 40000 behind Kubuntu :) === mhz is still under effects of pills so he's very sloooooowwww [01:59] (more than usual) [02:00] ogra: could that info be wrong? [02:00] or not accurate? [02:00] unlikely [02:00] ogra: oh we told silbs 100 000, when we should have said 1 000 000 [02:00] maybe 'tries' to be donwloaded? [02:00] but that sounds WAY too high to me [02:00] thats a very big university, i think they get the stats for their servers right [02:01] JaneW, look in #c :) [02:01] i dont think the stats are wrong ... [02:01] (we might interpret them wrongly though... but i doubt that) [02:01] JaneW: in this case, our estimates of a few thousand was way pesimistic this morning :) [02:01] ogra: what you posted here is magnitude of 10 more [02:01] yes === mhz whishes at least 100 of them were teachers providing feedback [02:02] but what we looked at was a weekly stat [02:02] goeie genaade! [02:02] so it sounds about right [02:03] JaneW: will edubuntu be shipped this tiem? === highvoltage must go now, thanks everyone [02:03] time [02:03] highvoltage: c ya [02:03] yes [02:03] later jonathan!!! [02:03] mhz: not yet official [02:03] only the install CD though [02:03] mhz: but a probable yes [02:03] *bounce* [02:04] bye highvoltage [02:04] (make that a *very* likely) [02:04] thank-you [02:04] JaneW: what does this depend on? [02:04] mhz: management [02:04] mhz, management decisions [02:04] again? [02:04] hehehe [02:04] always [02:05] but its pretty sure already that we'll get it [02:05] mhz: that's how companies work :P [02:05] will ubuntu design guys provide CD artwork? [02:05] ubuntu = caninial [02:05] canonical [02:06] .oO(sloppy fingers!) [02:09] hello? [02:09] mhz: I *think* so === ogra hasnt heard anything yet [02:09] ok is this meeting over? [02:09] i'd think so === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.120.2] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:10] mhz: but if the compnay ships them officially, I think the packaging will be official too [02:10] jsgotangco: good timing :P [02:10] even jsgotangco comes to clean up the room ... must be over [02:10] :) [02:10] ogra: hahaha [02:10] JaneW: then, no need to provide it via community? [02:11] mhz: not AFAIK [02:11] eh? [02:11] i just finished the day with an edubuntu talk [02:11] cool :) [02:12] jsgotangco, you missed the download stats look for edubuntu: http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en [02:12] :) [02:12]