[02:29] <iReALLyGotNoTime> do any of you guys run asterisk?
[02:31] <JoePowerbook> hello
[02:32] <JoePowerbook> anyone there?
[04:06] <pc22> pls help: tried audacity:  it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. i can still pay music tho
[07:20] <iGotNoTime> can anyone in here help with a SSH command?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> what sort?
[07:26] <iGotNoTime> well you know how with edbuntu we can click system/ users & groups
[07:26] <iGotNoTime> I want to know how to do the same exact thing in SSH
[07:27] <iGotNoTime> we need to put a user into the root group with the same chmod access as root for a week
[07:27] <iGotNoTime> we are moving some files around and the server has 60 + domains
[07:27] <iGotNoTime> that's 60 passwords for ftp
[07:27] <iGotNoTime> we want one, so he can navigate all domains
[07:34] <highvoltage> iGotNoTime: i think you need to read a bit more on sudo
[07:35] <highvoltage> iGotNoTime: you can give a user sudo rights, so that he can also do some administration
[07:35] <iGotNoTime> yes but the user will not be logging in with a terminal
[07:35] <iGotNoTime> he will be using a windows FTP client
[07:36] <iGotNoTime> no additional options other than username and password
[07:36] <iGotNoTime> via ssh I can use SUDO
[07:36] <iGotNoTime> but he is not transferring files with SSH
[11:10] <konfuzed> hey there, there s a tune playing in amarok and I want to save that one tune as a file on my desktop but I cant seem to find the save to function.... 
[11:11] <konfuzed> uh pointers anyone
[11:17] <konfuzed> wow  its drag and drop only 
[11:17] <konfuzed> no menu items to save files to your drive
[11:17] <konfuzed> I gleaned this from the amaroK manual under ripping cds
[02:35] <iReALLyGotNoTime> you know how with edbuntu we can click system/ users & groups
[02:36] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I want to know how to do the same exact thing in SSH
[02:36] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Anyone know how?
[02:36] <ogra> ??
[02:36] <iReALLyGotNoTime> morning :)
[02:36] <ogra> hi ... what do you want to do ?
[02:37] <iReALLyGotNoTime> we need to put a user into the root group with the same chmod access as root for a week
[02:37] <iReALLyGotNoTime> we are moving some files around and the server has 60 + domains
[02:37] <iReALLyGotNoTime> that's 60 passwords for ftp
[02:37] <iReALLyGotNoTime> we want one, so he can navigate all domains
[02:38] <iReALLyGotNoTime> so we need to SSH and adjust the user group he is in and the right or simply duplicate the root rights to him so he can use SFTP to see everything
[02:38] <iReALLyGotNoTime> the right permissions**
[02:38] <ogra> just add the user to the admin group and he's able to use sudo
[02:39] <iReALLyGotNoTime> WS_FTP is windows software, he will not be given an option to type SUDO
[02:39] <iReALLyGotNoTime> it is an FTP client
[02:39] <iReALLyGotNoTime> he is not logging in with any terminal, he is moving files
[02:39] <ogra> why dont you use putty and sftp file transfer ? 
[02:40] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I didn't know that it compared to the options within WS_FTP
[02:40] <ogra> it has a sftp client builtin afaik ...
[02:41] <iReALLyGotNoTime> so there is no way to the user group, he would be forced to use sudo?
[02:41] <iReALLyGotNoTime> no way to edit?
[02:42] <ogra> nope, indeed you can make a certain group own a directory and add the user to that group ...
[02:42] <ogra> i was irritated by the "root" everywhere ... 
[02:42] <ogra> you dont need root/sudo for proper permission settings :)
[02:43] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I know the risk, but he is no threat he only knows html, and it is only for file transfer.
[02:43] <iReALLyGotNoTime> ok let me ask about that then
[02:44] <ogra> just make the directorys owned by a certain group and add the user to this group ... give the group rw access to the dirs and you are done ...
[02:44] <iReALLyGotNoTime> can I create a user with ful 0777 right on all folders but only on all folders within /var/www/vhosts/*
[02:44] <iReALLyGotNoTime> nothing higher than the vhosts directory
[02:44] <ogra> you dont need 777
[02:44] <ogra> mkdir /var/www/vhosts
[02:44] <iReALLyGotNoTime> hold on :)
[02:44] <ogra> addgroup webadmin
[02:44] <iReALLyGotNoTime> not mkdir
[02:45] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I have 64 domains in there
[02:45] <iReALLyGotNoTime> it is live and running now
[02:45] <ogra> chgrp webadmin /var/www/vhosts
[02:45] <iReALLyGotNoTime> ok
[02:45] <ogra> adduser whoever webadmin
[02:46] <ogra> chmor g+rw /var/www/vhosts
[02:46] <ogra> err
[02:46] <ogra> chmod
[02:46] <ogra> along these lines 
[02:47] <ogra> you need to figure out the exact commands yourself, i'm very busy preparing a new flight release 
[02:58] <iGotNoTime> sorry router issue :(
[02:59] <iGotNoTime> ogra I thank you for your sense of protection on the 'root' matter :)
[02:59] <ogra> :)
[02:59] <iGotNoTime> to be honest I am very scared of anyone (including myself) using any full right access on directories higher than the /vhost
[03:00] <iGotNoTime> I will attempt to implement your suggestion on the groups :)
[03:00] <iGotNoTime> thanks for the detailed help
[03:00] <iGotNoTime> I knew it was a bit technical :P
[03:00] <ogra> you can also read up about wsftp and its chroot function ...
[03:01] <iGotNoTime> I think it is somehow disabled on the host
[03:01] <ogra> its a bit complicated, but guarantees you to lock in the user below /var/www
[03:01] <iGotNoTime> we have tried that :)
[03:01] <ogra> err
[03:01] <ogra> i meant wu-ftpd not ws-ftp 
[03:02] <iGotNoTime> ok :)
[04:01] <iGotNoTime> Is there a way in SSH to "show" the permissions & groups a user belongs to and has? --I'm stepping away for the moment, but I will scroll up for the reply. Thanks in advance. :)
[04:10] <Vego> Command 'groups' lists which group a user is in.
[04:11] <Vego> Permissions are usually set on files, not users. 'ls -l' to see access settings of files and directories.
[04:29] <iGotNoTime> ok thank you vego :)
[04:51] <iGotNoTime> I was told my chat logs are kept in .xchat
[04:51] <iGotNoTime> but where do I find that?
[05:17] <pips1> iGotNoTime, my xchat logs are in /home/user/.xchat2/xchatlogs (that's on a breezy machine :-)
[05:18] <iGotNoTime> thank you :)
[05:18] <pips1> :)
[07:03] <DeMoNSeEd> helllo
[07:04] <highvoltage> hi DeMoNSeEd 
[07:04] <DeMoNSeEd> i wanted to ask
[07:04] <highvoltage> shoot
[07:04] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[07:05] <DeMoNSeEd> might not be popular, i tried D/l flight 4 last night, both live and install, i just tried the live
[07:05] <DeMoNSeEd> it seems at least on the live, that GCompris kicks out a great deal
[07:05] <highvoltage> yes, it's a known issue, resolved with a recent update.
[07:05] <highvoltage> just a sec...
[07:06] <DeMoNSeEd> or is that normal on the live cd, when you play the puzzle section, memory card game to be specific
[07:06] <DeMoNSeEd> i sure hope they fix it, i'm this close to getting Edubuntu into about 20 schools
[07:07] <highvoltage> yes, it has been fixed
[07:07] <DeMoNSeEd> but Gcompris always failing (I had Gcompris probs in Breezy too) makes it hardf
[07:07] <DeMoNSeEd> k..cool
[07:07] <DeMoNSeEd> apart from that i might actually pull it off...i hopw
[07:07] <highvoltage> it's bug number 33898
[07:08] <DeMoNSeEd> darn, sorry bout typos
[07:08] <highvoltage> (if you look it up on launchpad.net)
[07:08] <DeMoNSeEd> i had filed a bug report too, i was told to
[07:08] <highvoltage> what is your bug number?
[07:08] <DeMoNSeEd> i didn't mark it  down, didn't realize i was supposed to
[07:09] <DeMoNSeEd> no big thing
[07:09] <highvoltage> no problem
[07:09] <DeMoNSeEd> if we can get our duckies in a row, this could really be somethin
[07:09] <ogra> DeMoNSeEd, you had problems with gcompris in breezy ? 
[07:10] <ogra> highvoltage, Accepted ltsp 0.83 (source)
[07:10] <ogra> Changes: 
[07:10] <ogra>  ltsp (0.83) dapper; urgency=low
[07:10] <ogra>  .
[07:10] <ogra>    * fix typo in ltsp-server description
[07:10] <ogra>    * fix indentation in ltsp-client.init
[07:10] <ogra>    * fix indentation error in X_MODE code of ltsp-client-setup
[07:10] <ogra>    * remove the unused configure_sound call in the ltsp-client-setup init script,
[07:11] <ogra>      thats handled in ltsp-client since some time
[07:11] <ogra>    * fixed ssh_known_hosts creation to not depend on ssh-keyscan
[07:11] <ogra> so now the sshkeys should be there after install ...
[07:11] <highvoltage> yay! :)
[07:11] <ogra> we're ready for flight 5 once thats built :)
[07:11] <ogra> all isos have sane sizes, so if nobody breaks something from the ubuntu side, we're safe
[07:12] <DeMoNSeEd> i was talking to a kindergarten, teacher  last night about GCompris.................yes, i did, it comes up all right, but the puzzle sedtion games/the rubik's cube section, the memory card game, to be specific, if you made a match, the whole thing would kick out, i wasn't the only one, i ran into others with same prob
[07:12] <highvoltage> great. i'll rsync as soon as it's ready and start testing the new flight the next day.
[07:12] <ogra> DeMoNSeEd, in breezy ? 
[07:12] <DeMoNSeEd> yes
[07:12] <DeMoNSeEd> in Breezy
[07:13] <ogra> i know there were probs in the beginning of the dapper cycle, but in breezy it worked fine in my tests
[07:13] <DeMoNSeEd> i tried it on 5 different boxes, always same thing
[07:13] <ogra> luckily we have yvesC here from time to time, he's one of the upstream developers ... so please file bugs if you discover anything in dapper, so we can fix it before release
[07:14] <DeMoNSeEd> i filed it, mostly cause i was totally ignored, then rudely told to get lost in ubuntu room when i persisted asking about the prob
[07:15] <ogra> DeMoNSeEd, if you have a edubuntu specific bug (i.e. edu software or ltsp stuff) assign it to me ...
[07:16] <ogra> ogra@ubuntu.com ...
[07:16] <DeMoNSeEd> if i remember correctly ogra , i seem to remember is had something to do with something called gnomecanvas
[07:16] <DeMoNSeEd> i might be wrong, but that seens to be what i remember seeing as a prob, when i tried to bring it up via term
[07:17] <ogra> we'll unlikely fix it in breezy ... but its important to get all errors for dapper as long as we can solve them
[07:17] <DeMoNSeEd> either was, GCompris looked great, till you player the memory card matching game, when 2 cards matched, the whole suite would die
[07:19] <highvoltage> ogra: i know this might be a bit much to ask, but i would just like to know, is it likely that there'll be either language or session buttons in ldm for dapper?
[07:19] <DeMoNSeEd> tell me bout it, when it did that card die thing it was when i was showing it to a school rep, i looked so stu*pd, as it kept doing it, he told me to come back when the program works, i felt so ....
[07:19] <ogra> highvoltage, we already talked about that ...
[07:20] <DeMoNSeEd> ok ogra , i'll remember to assign to you
[07:20] <highvoltage> ogra: yes, we have. sorry...
[07:20] <ogra> DeMoNSeEd, thanks, thats the way to get it fixed ;)
[07:20] <DeMoNSeEd> you might tell ubuntu room proper , that you all are on same side though
[07:21] <ogra> they should know that ...
[07:25] <DeMoNSeEd> so should i wait till Dapper goes gold before i attempt another demo
[07:25] <DeMoNSeEd> or you think flight 5 will be ok
[07:29] <highvoltage> ogra: gtg. sorry for asking you twice about that ldm question. i loose track of certain issues sometimes (should install a local request tracker or something :) )
[07:29] <highvoltage> goodnight, thanks for all your hard work.
[07:29] <ogra> highvoltage, dont worry :)
[07:29] <highvoltage> DeMoNSeEd: night to you too.
[07:29] <ogra> night 
[07:29] <DeMoNSeEd> nite
[07:29] <DeMoNSeEd> take care
[07:30] <ogra> DeMoNSeEd, one issue was fixed past flight4, so that one is safe 
[07:30] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[07:30] <ogra> i dont know which issues are still hidden that nobody reported bugs about yet though
[07:31] <DeMoNSeEd> yeah, i understand
[07:32] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[07:47] <DeMoNSeEd> gotta run out for a while, i'll be checking in regular now
[07:47] <DeMoNSeEd> thanks for the help ogra , take care
[07:48] <ogra> thanks for coming :)
[07:48] <ogra> bah
[08:21] <iGotNoTime> Hey Ogra is the boot from LAN option worth the time for a single thin client or would it be just as easy to put the CD in and install?
[08:21] <iGotNoTime> I mean is something worth learning or a waste of time just for my daughter's computer alone?
[08:22] <ogra> what kind of machine is that ? 
[08:22] <iGotNoTime> just a 900Mhz intel
[08:22] <iGotNoTime> old computer I never used I gave to my girls
[08:22] <ogra> memory and HD ?
[08:23] <iGotNoTime> both lol... seriously I think 10GB and 512
[08:23] <ogra> (900 MHz is fine for a standalone install)
[08:23] <ogra> thats fine for a standalone workstation system ...
[08:23] <iGotNoTime> yes, but that is what I mean, is the the better route for a single client?
[08:23] <iGotNoTime> is that the better route***
[08:24] <ogra> you only need to maintain one machine if you use it as thin client
[08:24] <iGotNoTime> alot of time would go into setting up a thin client?
[08:24] <ogra> see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes 
[08:24] <iGotNoTime> I kinda wanna try, but don't wanna bite off more than I can chew
[08:25] <iGotNoTime> especially since from CD it is only 30 minutes to running
[08:25] <ogra> and the subpage: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup
[08:25] <iGotNoTime> I am worried it coudl take me days LOL
[08:25] <iGotNoTime> yes that is the page I am on now
[08:25] <iGotNoTime> that is why I came in here , just to get some personal opinions on the matter :)
[08:25] <ogra> if you used the default install of edubuntu, everything is preconfigured apart from the dhcp config
[08:26] <ogra> just adjust the network settings, restart dhcpd and you are done
[08:26] <iGotNoTime>  In /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
[08:26] <ogra> +(network settings in the config file)
[08:26] <ogra> nope, see the wikipage
[08:26] <iGotNoTime> sounds easy enough to play with :)
[08:26] <ogra> you can mostly copy and paste the commands from there
[08:27] <iGotNoTime> thanks :)
[08:27] <iGotNoTime> ok
[08:27] <ogra> but note that works only in the default install
[08:27] <iGotNoTime> yes :)