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stardustanyone know of any good programs to edit .swf flash files?12:04
stardustI tried f4l flash4linux but it doesn't seem to be able to do as i would like12:04
Txukieuse macromedia flash under wine12:05
stardustany open source alternatives?12:05
Txukief4l is discontinued i think12:05
stardustI don't want to shell out hundreds of dollars for macromedia just to run it under wine12:05
Txukie.......well a possibility is openlaszlo but its not quite the same12:05
Txukiecheck it out it might be good for you12:05
stardustah ok, thanks12:06
Txukiebe12:08
Txukiebye12:08
celerateheh, anyone know why my router and laptop can see each other, but my laptop can't get an IP address?12:09
celerateoh, nevermind it's in the wiki12:10
luitewhat do you mean by 'see each other' ? the link lights of your ethernet connection are on?12:10
luiteah ok12:10
celerateI need to configure DHCP to work with wpa_supplicant12:11
celerateor vice versa12:11
luiteah, wlan :)12:11
celerateyeah, so far it's taken me hours to get this far12:12
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pabletanyone has upgraded to dapper?? can anyone tell me how to enable networking during boot again?12:40
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Armagguedeshello12:40
farousdid not update yet but this is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces12:41
farousput auto infront of the device you want to auto enable12:41
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there12:41
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhat does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?12:41
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pabletthanks12:42
farous:)12:42
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pabletbut....i have enabled  "networking" in runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5 of "system services", these ones appeared disabled at boot at this config section12:43
pabletis this correct??12:43
pabletand resolvconf is not enabled by default at boot, neither12:44
faroushmm i do not know. Dapper is new to me and forgot what each runlevel do. i always look it up at debian docs12:44
pabletok12:44
Armagguedesdoes anyone know if novell is truly going forward with that linux app-porting business?12:44
pabletyou did so and everyting worked, no?12:44
Armagguedesespecially autocad?12:44
farouspablet: dapper broke my wireless so i took it out of my test machine. steel running breezy here till dapper is stable12:45
faroushate those spell errors still12:46
pabletone thing else.....I had a ndiswrapper wireless (broadcom or dell if you prefer) that worked fine with breezy, now when I scan for available networks it tells me : no network discovered12:47
Armagguedesyou're lucky pablet , i cant even get my wificard/eth1 to stay enabled12:48
ufoArmagguedes, do you have broadcom chipset?12:48
Armagguedesnah12:49
pabletthe thing i dont understand is that i have found errors that were solved in breezy12:49
Armagguedesthe superpopular intel/pro 2200bg12:49
pableti have a broadcom wireless12:49
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farousArmagguedes: so it is not only me12:49
ufopablet, do you use dapper?12:49
faroussame problem here on my second laptop12:49
pabletyes12:49
pabletbut installed hours ago12:49
farousit is hell with firmware error every now and then12:49
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pabletsorry, UPGRADED hours ago12:50
ufopablet, bcm43xx?12:50
pabletbut I think card is not working properly because it cannot detect any network12:50
pableti dont know, because the name i have seen is "dell pro wireless 1370"12:51
pabletI know its a broadcom, but i never tried to find out the exact model12:51
ufopablet, do you need help with that? you should use ndiswrapper and blaclist the bcm43xx... and see with lshw what chipset are?12:52
pabletim going to look for the chipset, one moment12:52
pablet-->  bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present12:53
pabletit tells me everything is ok12:53
ufoyou have the ndiswrappe allready installed?12:53
pabletbut scanning doesnt produce any result12:53
pableti installed it when it was breezy12:54
ufook... add this to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    blacklist bcm43xx12:54
pabletit should have been upgraded to dapper correctly....12:54
pabletwhat does this do?12:54
ufothere is an new kernel code for bcm43xx and it does not have the firmware...12:55
ufothe blacklisting is blocking the kernel driver to load12:55
pabletbut my network is not bcm43xx12:55
pabletmy wireless card, sorry12:56
ufoare you sure... you are using same ndiswrapper driver12:56
pableti have not changed anything from breezy to dapper (refering to ndiswrapper config)12:57
Armagguedesyou might want to take a luuk at this: http://diabolikal.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.7512:57
ufopablet, its the new kernel thing trust me12:57
pabletcan you explain me it more concretely?12:57
pablet(sorry if i don't understand correctly, my english is a bit poor)12:58
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ufoits ok... there is compiled in the kernel broadcom patch and if you dont have the firmware installed you cant use ndiswrapper... it came with the new kernel  source12:59
Armagguedesis an howto12:59
ufoyou need to use tool to cut the firmware from bcmw5.sys and it did not work for me... and i had to use the ndiswrapper...12:59
ArmagguedesGetting Wireless to Work in Kubuntu01:00
Armagguedeswtf i lost cut&paste?01:00
ufothey cant provide the firmware because its not gpl01:00
ufothe tool is fwcutter01:00
pabletthanks armagguedes im gonna read it01:00
nukyis there a way to set all your folders to open automatically in krusader? i tried right clicking -> open with -> then choose krusader and check the box telling it to do that always.. but that doesn't work.. when i click on the folder it doesn't do anything now..01:00
pabletand you say that with this tool I can get wireless support for broadcom without using ndiswrapper?01:01
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Armagguedesfrom what i've seen over the past years, linux has always had a cancer01:01
Armagguedesbefore it used to be audio01:01
Armagguedesnow it seems to be wifi01:01
ufopablet, yes http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/01:01
ufobut i had no luck for cutting the firmware01:02
Armagguedeswhats next? i hope its not the new fancy-ass hybrid harddrives01:02
ufomaybe my driver was too old to cut from01:02
pabletok thanks ufo01:02
pabletim going to read it01:03
ufoone more thing to use with ndiswrapper01:03
pablettell me01:03
pabletbut my broadcom is not 43xx01:05
ufopablet, here is my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/987601:05
pabletok thanks01:05
pabletbut, what do you want me to take from this file?01:06
ufooh... you should change the wlan0 to eth1 in aliasing01:07
pabletit looks like my file (i have added the "auto" before eth0, hope this works next boot)01:07
pabletmy kubuntu names wlan0 as eth201:07
ufook... you could try now01:08
Armagguedeswill Drake come with some sort of WPA support pre-installed?01:08
Armagguedesso that i can boot from the install process into my wifi network?01:09
ufopablet, the wlan0 alias for ndiswrapper is in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper and that one i changed for eth1 you could set what you like01:10
ufoor need01:11
pabletone more thing....when I mount, for example, a pendrive, the dialog "mounting" gets frozen (but the pendrive is mounted correctly)....it happened on breezy and was succesfully corrected.....why did this error come back?01:11
pabletok thanks01:11
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pabletnow you suggest me to change wlan0 to the value the system has gave to the card, in this case, eth201:12
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?01:12
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ufopablet, yes01:13
pabletwell, its probably the error, because it was set to wlan001:13
pabletthanks ufo01:13
pabletreally01:13
pablethope it works on next reboot ;D01:13
ufook :)01:13
pabletone more thing01:14
ufoyes01:14
pabletplease read the error i have noticed in kde when mounting a pendrive or other device01:14
pabletread a few lines above01:14
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Armagguedeswill Drake come with some sort of WPA support pre-installed? because my wifi is wpa-only and i cant set the wlan card as default, since i cant connect01:15
keithIs it best to have a WAP high or low, as in on the floor or on a high shelf?01:15
ufoit might be something with the new kernel... can really tell you...01:15
ufocant01:15
Armagguedeskeith it might depend on the building's construction actually01:16
Armagguedes...ii think01:16
pableti thought this too, and i haven't got time to see if its a kernel problem01:16
keithits just a normal bedroom =)01:16
ufokeith, it does not matter but there is not so much things upper like tv or something01:16
ufoor bed01:16
keithoh ok, sometimes i cant hit my wap, no matter how close to it i am, but if its up or down sometimes i can and i cant pinpoint which location is best, i think it mght be failing tho, its old01:17
keiththanks for hte info tho =)01:17
keithif you could recommend a cheap wireless wap id love you :P01:17
ArmagguedesCat6 rocks01:17
pabletanother thing is that I cannot see an info meta tag in properties of windows partition, for example, telling me the free spce (but in pendrive i can see the meta info tag)01:17
keiththats kubuntu compaitble, ive noticed inksys and belkin arent very compatible01:17
ufoand there is in most of them option to raise the transmit level01:17
Armagguedeslinksys isnt compatible? oh crap01:18
keithwell from what i see at school it isnt, dunno if that was really the problem01:18
pabletufo, thanks01:18
ufonp01:18
keithbut the only waps i was able to connect to have been netgear01:18
pabletim going to see if all these thing work01:18
pabletim back in a minute01:18
pabletjust rebooting01:19
pabletbye01:19
pabletsee you now01:19
keithwow, off toic, but ifound this on the netgear site http://tools.netgear.com/skype/01:20
ufokeith, thats interesting, does it need an computer to work?01:21
ufowhere can i get one of those01:22
keithno, it doesnt need a computer01:22
keithfrom what i see anyway01:22
ufoand its not available yet01:23
keithoh01:23
keithlooks nice though01:23
ufoyes and it does not need computer to work!!01:24
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arafatkeith:  thanks for that great link! that thing is awesome!01:26
keithnp :D01:27
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m_tadeuhello everyone....i'm trying to connect a usb IR controler, but i don't seem to be able to do it01:43
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ufom_tadeu, who made the controller?01:47
m_tadeuufo: made by conceptronic01:48
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ufothere are millions of sites on google but i dont understand the language...  google --> conceptronics usb ir linux01:50
ufomaybe you do :)01:51
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m_tadeuufo: i'll give it another shot then :) thnx01:51
m_tadeuufo: is there a way to check if it was detected or not?01:53
ufodmesg or lshw01:53
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ufoyou could disconnect and put it back and see in dmesg01:54
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m_tadeuit was detected in ttyUSB0...shouldn't it be ttyS0?01:55
ufono the ttys0 is regular serial port...01:58
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pradeeptoaseigo: hello02:02
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chxi have catched a few necessary packets with KSniffer and I can see some headers quite ok but how could i look at the payload?02:07
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_0331_USMCWhen is the next version supposed to come out?02:35
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhat does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?02:48
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patrixgoogle it? ;)02:51
patrixThe 'VmSize' and 'VmRSS' lines are the most important. VmSize is the total amount of memory required by this program, and VmRSS is the "Resident Set Size" (the amount actually in memory right now). In many cases, some of this memory can be swapped out to disk so your program can actually be "bigger" than the physical memory of the machine and still not have any problems.02:51
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patrixhi Tallia1Kubuntu btw ;)02:52
Tallia1Kubuntuhi02:52
patrixhow's the kubuntu going these days?02:52
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Tallia1Kubuntuperfectly :)02:52
Tallia1Kubuntuas ever :)02:52
Tallia1Kubuntuif i unable the swap partiton, do i lose the VmRSS ability?02:53
patrixawesome02:53
Tallia1Kubuntui wrote a little script to maintain firefox singleinstance02:53
Tallia1Kubuntutoo02:53
patrixno clue02:53
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Tallia1Kubuntuclue?02:53
patrixI have no idea about your question concerning swap and vmrss...02:54
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to make the same thing with conqueror?02:54
Tallia1Kubuntuhave only 1 instance and use tabs instead?02:54
fatejudger?02:54
patrixyou can set up konq to open all new links etc in new tabs02:54
patrixyes02:54
fatejudgeryou mean group all new windows in tabs?02:54
fatejudgeryeah02:54
InteliWaspis robotgeek back yet?02:54
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix got it02:54
Tallia1Kubuntueven if the links come from other programs?02:55
patrix"Open as tab in existing konq window when URL is called externally"02:55
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i enable it?02:55
patrixSettings -> Konqueror settigs -> web behaviour -> Tabbed browsing -> advanced options02:55
Tallia1Kubuntunono wait02:55
Tallia1Kubuntunot web02:55
Tallia1Kubuntui use konqueror only for browsing the computer02:55
patrixyes02:56
patrixit's all the same02:56
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Tallia1Kubuntui see02:56
Tallia1Kubuntulet me check it out02:56
patrixI thought that was the default behaviour in Kubuntu02:56
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patrixI was annoyed by it, was browsing the web, wanted to open my home dir and it opened a new tab in my current browser window02:56
patrixheh02:56
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Tallia1Kubuntudo you use konqueror or firefox?02:56
Tallia1Kubuntui don't like koqueror web02:56
patrixI usually use opea02:57
patrixopera02:57
patrixbeen using konqueror for a while, I like it better than firefox but not as muc has opera02:57
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy don't you like firefox?02:57
patrixcause I like opera better ;)02:58
Tallia1Kubuntui think firefox is the only one that works kind of fine with multimedia ecc ecc02:58
Tallia1Kubuntuisn't it?02:58
patrixnah opera works fine too02:58
patrixdetects all the netscape plugins etc02:58
Tallia1Kubuntucan you see quicktime, flash java ecc?02:58
Tallia1Kubuntuexpecially the first02:58
Tallia1Kubuntufor mp3 straming02:58
patrixwell I havne't installed any plugin lime mplayer-mozilla, but it'd detect it and use it02:59
patrixanyway it's all a matter of personal choice02:59
patrixand now I go to bed03:00
patrixgnight everyone03:00
Tallia1Kubuntuok03:00
Tallia1Kubuntugnight03:00
InteliWaspi guess robotgeek has not returned?03:04
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AnpheusHello.03:17
AnpheusAnyone willing to help a linux newbie make his RT2500-based PCI Wireless Card work?03:18
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xPatriot83Hey everyone!03:24
ufoAnpheus, http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page03:24
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ufoAnpheus, http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt240003:25
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AnpheusAlso...03:26
ufono i just pointed few sites for you03:26
AnpheusMy desktop is 1600x1200... but it doesn't, well, _feel_ 1600x1200. Is Kubuntu always this enormous?03:26
ufodo you use tft? you could try antialised fonts03:28
xPatriot83Hey, is there anything that I need to know before I try to install kubuntu in a multi-boot situation?03:28
AnpheusDo I use tft? This is a good question.03:28
AnpheusI don't know.03:28
theholycowAnpheus: tft == lcd03:29
AnpheusTFT is an acronym for what, true font tools?03:29
Anpheustruetype'03:29
ufothin film transistor03:29
theholycowAnpheus: IIRC, it's Thin Film Transistor. It means you have an LCD, not a CRT.03:29
AnpheusAh, no, I have a CRT.03:30
theholycowCan you describe your feel of not-1600x1200?03:30
AnpheusIt's just, everything, every font, every window, seems enormous.03:30
theholycowYou're probably not in 1600x1200.03:30
AnpheusI am in 1600x1200.03:30
AnpheusAt 86Hz, right now.03:30
theholycowHmm...I'm running kubuntu, default install, and everything looks right for my resolution03:31
ufoget the windows tahoma font for desktop and it should look like windows03:31
theholycowunfr0tunately, I can't seem to get 1280x1024 out of my kubuntu.03:32
AnpheusI don't want it to look like windows, I just want some of this excess shrunken a bit. The font size for window titles, text in windows, etc, the default is just too large.03:32
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Syco54645hi i was wondering what the default theme was in kubuntu for kde03:32
theholycowso I'm stuck at 1024. I edited xorg.conf and...umm...haven't exited X since then.03:33
theholycowToo bad X won't re-read xorg.conf when I hit "ctrl alt +"03:33
Snake__!lart admrl03:36
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Snake__There we go03:36
theholycowanybody here have any experience with gambas?03:37
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AnpheusThis is going to sound funny, as in "ha ha it's a newbie" funny, but I would anticipate that saving to the desktop would make something apparent on the desktop. Is there some way to enable that functionality or do I have to look through my directories to find everything I save 'to the desktop'?03:38
admrlSnake__ haha03:38
Snake__admrl: didnt work in amarok, so ill do it here :)03:38
AnpheusOr, maybe I just didn't save it to  the desktop and clicked too quickly! Ha ha... I'm a newbie.03:38
xPatriot83Anpheus: LOL... Welcome to the club. :-)03:38
admrlya im sure it would be hard to convince ubotu to go to #amarok03:39
theholycowAnpheus: I just tried saving something to desktop, it showed right up on the desktop.03:39
AnpheusYeah, read my second message...03:40
AnpheusAnyways.03:40
AnpheusI went to the rt2500 page, I've got this archive now, and... I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it.03:40
AnpheusI don't see a readme in the archive03:40
AnpheusThere's a FAQ that provides some info but nothing on installation of the drivers.03:41
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AnpheusWireless still not working...03:46
theholycowArgh...I gave up on wireless a long time ago. I just use bridges, like wireless "gaming" adapters, or Belkin routers that will act as bridges03:47
duckdownHey all. I'm trying to ./configure kvirc, because the one aptitude is so bloody old.. But it's telling me it can't find the 'qt header files' (and possibly indicate where they are manually).. Can someone tell me where these are located?03:47
ufoAnpheus, extract the package somewhere03:47
ufogo to that folder and sudo make03:48
ufoduckdown, you can search the headers apt-cache search qt headers03:49
ufoor apt-get install libqt3-headers03:49
duckdownhmm, is there such a package? let me try thanks03:49
AnpheusYeah there's a lot of errors.03:50
Anpheusufo, Lots of errors.03:50
ufoAnpheus, apt-get install build-essential03:50
AnpheusI did this.03:51
AnpheusThere are a lot of compile errors.03:53
duckdownufo great its configuring now, thanks man03:54
AnpheusUfo, there are... well, errors a plenty.03:55
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AnpheusI mean, this looks like it's not using the right compiler. The wiki suggests using GCC 3.4, and there are far too many errors for this to be a minor issue or corruption in the extracted data. I'm guessing make is using GCC 4.0 and I should somehow force it to use 3.4?03:57
neoncodeDoes the latest version of wine run the windows version of firefox well?03:57
ufoAnpheus, pastebin the error03:57
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ufoAnpheus, apt-get install linux-source linux-headers03:58
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ufo!ati04:00
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:00
ufoAnpheus, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base04:01
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Anpheusufo, this instruction did not work: apt-get install linux-source linux-headers04:02
ufoAnpheus, apt-get install linux-source04:02
duckdowni think its linux-source-`uname -r`04:02
ufoyes use that ^04:02
duckdownsame with headers04:02
duckdownlinux-headers-`uname -r`04:02
ufobrb04:03
AnpheusE: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-9-38604:03
duckdowntype04:04
duckdownapt-cache search linux-source04:04
duckdowndo you have any results?04:04
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AnpheusYes.04:05
duckdowndo a apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:06
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pc22pls help: tried audacity:  it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. i can still pay music tho04:07
AnpheusIt says it is already updated.04:07
duckdownwhat are you trying to do?04:07
duckdownand pastebin the errors04:07
duckdownwww.pastebin.ca04:07
AnpheusDuckdown, I'm trying to install the linux drivers.04:07
Anpheusfor rt250004:08
duckdownall you should need is the linux-headers-`uname -r`04:08
duckdowni need an external Atheros driver04:08
duckdownthats all it needs is the headers04:08
AnpheusUfo was helping me, this is what he was following, I believe:04:08
Anpheushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig04:08
duckdownAnpheus: www.pastebin.ca04:08
ufoAnpheus, yes use that wiki04:09
AnpheusInstructions were followed up until he asked me to 'make' the drivers...04:09
AnpheusAt which point, the terminal filled up more than entirely with compile errors.04:10
AnpheusIt would be pointless for me to paste the errors, there are FAR too many, and I can't paste them all anyways.04:10
ufodid you use the dapper or breezy04:10
AnpheusAnd they are trivial errors.04:10
AnpheusBreezy, AFAIK. 5.10?04:10
AnpheusI've been waiting for Dapper Drake with hopes that it would fix all of this but I can't wait until April to have Linux.04:10
ufodid i say to use my sources.list because i use the dapper at the moment04:11
pc22Anpheus, hello?04:11
Anpheuspc22, hello.04:11
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pc22can u help?04:11
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Anpheusuhm...04:12
AnpheusI don't think I'm qualified to help anyone.04:12
pc22anyone?04:12
Anpheusufo, I tried following the WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig page, but cannot make the driver.04:13
ufosudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:13
ufosudo apt-get install gcc-3.404:14
AnpheusTotally did those both dude.04:14
ufook we need the error?04:14
AnpheusI'm building Rautil right now, since that actually seems to work.04:14
AnpheusJust a sec.04:14
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ufoAnpheus, you dont need the rautil or raconfig04:16
ufoyou can install the module and use kde network config04:16
ufoand i was thinking i got rid of the cables with my laptop but it seems to be worse than with desktop :D headset and mouse and power cable04:17
MotorCityMadMan2help needed: How do i edit the menu.lst in the grub folder ?04:18
Kyralsudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst04:19
Anpheusufo, I've done both of those.04:19
Anpheusand I tried to make it again04:19
Anpheusand the first error I get is, yes, related to the linux headers:04:19
ufoAnpheus, did you get the driver compiled?04:19
Anpheusno.04:20
AnpheusMore errors.04:20
AnpheusLots and lots of pages of errors.04:20
AnpheusCan you tell me how to increase the buffer/stored text of Konsole so I can copy all of this for you?04:20
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robotgeekInteliWasp: am here now04:22
ufoAnpheus, take those what you can see04:22
ufoAnpheus, use this apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev04:24
AnpheusAlready installed, newest version.04:24
ufodid the driver compile right?04:25
ufowith no errors04:25
AnpheusNo, I'm still missing header and source files for linux, I believe.04:25
ufosudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:25
ufowhat does this say?04:25
Anpheusbuild-essential is already the newest version04:26
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Anpheuslinux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version04:27
Anpheus0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded04:27
ufono go to the ralink source dir and type make04:27
AnpheusYou mean the Module/ directory?04:27
ufoor maybe sudo make in the directory04:27
AnpheusLots and lots of errors.04:28
ufono just in the dir04:28
LjL"sudo make" <- bad04:28
ufomight be i don use sudo04:28
AnpheusYes, in the Module/ directory? It's either that or utilitsys which is the Raconfig04:28
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ufoAnpheus, what name does the directory have?04:29
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AnpheusModule04:29
ufotake one back04:29
AnpheusThat's my desktop04:30
AnpheusI extracted the rt2500-1.0.0.tar.gz there04:30
AnpheusMy desktop contains FAQ, LICENSE, CHANGELOG, and THANKS documents04:30
AnpheusAnd the folders CVS (containing 3 documents), Module, and Utilitys04:30
ufothe directory name should be rt2500*something* and inside that should be module and some other things04:32
AnpheusI have fixed the problems.04:32
AnpheusI downloaded a newer version that what was listed on the Sourceforge page I had previously been linked to.04:32
ufohave extacted only the module dir?04:32
AnpheusNo, I followed the instructions correctly I believe04:33
AnpheusI just had a bad version.04:33
ufoyou have probably on your desktop the makefile04:33
AnpheusIt compiled with 1.1.0-b304:33
AnpheusNo, I did not.04:33
ufoyou should extract to directory04:33
ufono on your desktop04:33
Anpheusyes, yes, can we move onward? I have compiled the drivers.04:35
ufoall did without errors04:35
AnpheusYes.04:35
ufosudo insmod rt2500.ko04:35
ufodo you need the wpa for your card?04:36
AnpheusNo.04:36
AnpheusUhm04:37
ufodid the insmod work04:37
AnpheusNo, I get "error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 File exists04:37
Anpheusrt2500.ko exists in the driectory I am in.04:37
robotgeekAnpheus: sudo rmmod rt250004:39
robotgeekAnpheus: the module comes with breezy, actually04:39
Anpheuswell it doesn't work.04:40
AnpheusSo poo on you!04:40
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robotgeekAnpheus: "doesn't work isn't very helpful"04:40
AnpheusIt never activates.04:40
ufodid the rmmod rt2500 work04:40
AnpheusEvidently not.04:40
Anpheus"Module rt2500 is in use"04:41
robotgeekAnpheus: sudo ?04:41
ufoecho "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt250004:41
AnpheusYes, robotgeek.04:41
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robotgeekAnpheus: well, sudo ifconfig rao down && sudo rmmod rt250004:42
AnpheusError inserting rt2500.ko, ufo04:42
ufoAnpheus, try locate rt2500.ko04:43
AnpheusOk.04:43
AnpheusAfter following robotgeek's instruction, the insmod worked.04:43
robotgeekAnpheus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:44
ufook try now iwconfig04:44
douglasMy desktop is running dapper quite successfully, however, is it ok to upgrade my laptop from breezy, When I did an upgrade on my desktop it broke, and dapper has so many neato cool things.04:44
robotgeekdouglas: oh, so shiny04:44
douglasAgreed04:44
ufoyes04:44
robotgeekbut it keep breaking, so you might want to evaluate need vs want :)04:44
douglasah04:45
douglasI do NEED a stable system for school, so I'll stick with my current setup04:45
douglasWhen is dapper slated for again?04:45
AnpheusI'll be back in a bit.04:45
robotgeekApril 20th04:45
ufoit works great for me04:45
douglasrobotgeek: so long... :(04:46
Snake__ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh04:53
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Snake__!lart amarok04:53
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Anpheusk04:54
AnpheusUhm, well, ra0 is gone, eth1 is now listed04:54
AnpheusAnd I still can't initialize it.04:54
AnpheusIf I enable the interface, it disables itself.04:54
Arcanimus'Night guys04:55
robotgeekAnpheus: don;t use the gui for a while04:55
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Anpheusk.04:55
AnpheusNot using the gui.04:55
Snake__robotgeek: Hey do you run amarok 1.4?04:56
robotgeekyes Snake__04:56
Snake__robotgeek: You dont happen to have a deb you can ship me do you? my stupid thing wont complie04:57
Snake__robotgeek: ive been trying since 4 lol (its now 11 pm)04:57
robotgeekSnake__: nope, i installed straight from the website? was that a older one?04:57
robotgeekhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta1.php04:58
Anpheusrobotgeek... What shall I do?04:58
Snake__robotgeek: links... lol04:58
robotgeekAnpheus: hmm, eth1?04:58
Snake__robotgeek: will this work in breezy?04:59
robotgeekSnake__: read the announcement ;)04:59
ufoAnpheus, did you do this echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt250004:59
Snake__robotgeek: I did, it says dapper04:59
Snake__Oh05:00
Snake__:(05:00
Snake__robotgeek: I got that taglib tho05:00
robotgeekSnake__: it might work then05:00
Snake__robotgeek: ill try it05:00
Anpheusmy network settings show Eth1 as a Wireless Network Device, still.05:02
ufoAnpheus, adn configure /etc/network/interfaces i have these with uncommented the eth1 lines05:03
robotgeekAnpheus: sudo ifconfig eth1 down05:03
ufoAnpheus, you can use the eth1 for your wlan i do in dapper05:04
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chanigodamn fucking gentoo! and alsa! bah!05:04
Snake__chani: language bro05:04
chanioh! sorry! I meant to join a completely different channel05:05
Snake__:)05:05
chaniI was thinking about kubuntu, I guess, 'cause sound works fine there05:05
Snake__Lol05:05
Snake__robotgeek: Bah it depends on a bunch of things i would need to pull from dapper repos :(05:06
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AnpheusBtw, Raconfig doesn't work.05:06
AnpheusI do "sudo RaConfig2500" and it says it can't find the device driver.05:06
AnpheusWould I be better off trying a beta of Dapper?05:07
robotgeekAnpheus: hmm, not really05:07
AnpheusDo you have _any_ idea why my card, which by all accounts should be an rt2500 based PCI wireless card (linksys WMP54G v4.0) does not work?05:08
AnpheusI've tried an older Ubuntu x86 LiveCD (I think 5.04,) Ubuntu AMD64 install (5.10), and Kubuntu x86 install (5.10)05:09
Snake__Anpheus: Wireless is very very very iffy on linux05:09
ufoAnpheus, look in the loadin section in the wiki for remove the old drivers05:09
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_Anpheusk05:11
_AnpheusBack.05:11
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_Anpheusaccidentally shut down the wrong card.05:11
_Anpheuser, interface05:11
ufodid you remove the old driver and use the new one05:12
_AnpheusErm?05:12
_AnpheusI'm trying to install the new one, because supposedly the old driver should have been working.05:12
ufosudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/05:12
_AnpheusI still don't understand why this driver, which according to good ol' wiki.ubuntu.org, does not yet function.05:13
ufochange the cvs to you directory where the module dir is located05:13
ufosudo rm -r /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500 this first05:13
_AnpheusI did those.05:15
ufo_Anpheus, do you have an fresh install?05:15
_AnpheusYes.05:15
ufocan you allow ssh to your box?05:15
_Anpheusufo, I don't really think it would help.05:15
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AnpheusThere.05:15
AnpheusI mean, what else can you do?05:15
AnpheusI've followed the wiki instructions.05:15
ufook05:15
Anpheusanyways, I'm behind a firewall whose settings I can't alter, and on top of that I have a rather poor connection over an external wireless device right now.05:15
ufodid you try to reboot?05:16
AnpheusI will reboot.05:17
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AnpheusNow neither eth1 nor ra0 shows up.05:20
ufotry modprobe rt250005:20
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AnpheusUnknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter.05:21
ufo?05:22
AnpheusThat's what I got.05:22
AnpheusI'm going to try installing the drivers again.05:22
robotgeekAnpheus: hmm, interesting.05:22
Anpheusevidently I need to download the linux headers again.05:23
ufono you dont05:23
robotgeekAnpheus: maybe the kernel got upgraded or something?05:23
AnpheusBut maybe that's because I upgraded to 2.6.12.10 in the kernel.05:23
ufoyes thats the reason05:23
AnpheusYeah... I was screwing around in the package utility05:23
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AnpheusAnd I clicked full upgrade.05:23
AnpheusThey really ought to put warning labels on things like that.05:23
AnpheusI wanted it to mark the packages for a full upgrade, not just install them.05:24
ufodo the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade before enyhing05:24
Anpheussee, everything's already done.05:25
Anpheuswell05:25
Anpheusbuilding and installing drivers again05:25
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ufoyuo dont have to build the driver... just install it05:26
ufoAnpheus, use the insmod and follow the loading module thing...05:27
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Anpheusmmm05:30
Anpheusk, trying to enable interface ra005:30
ufotry dhclient ra005:31
NeoChaosXor ifup ra005:31
ufoand then look into network gui05:31
AnpheusNot enabling.05:33
AnpheusDHCP isn't returning anything either.05:33
robotgeekAnpheus: iwconfig ra0 ?05:34
ufodoes the iwconfig see the card05:34
AnpheusYes.05:34
robotgeekAnpheus: did you set your wireless parameters?05:34
AnpheusAnd yes.05:34
ufodoes the iwconfig tell you the speed of wlan card ?05:36
robotgeekAnpheus: open up another terminal and type "tail -f /var/log/syslog". then do "sudo dhclient ra0" in a terminal05:36
Anpheusiwconfig is reporting 11 Mb/s, but the router and card support up to 54.05:36
ufois the essd right?05:36
Anpheusyes.05:37
ufoessid05:37
ufoand the card works on windows?05:37
AnpheusYes.05:37
AnpheusOne second please.05:37
robotgeekAnpheus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/988605:38
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robotgeekAnpheus: download that as wireless.sh, change the parameters, chmod +x wireless.sh , sudo ./wireless.sh05:39
AnpheusI presume you want me to edit the essid parameters, and the like?05:40
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uforobotgeek, there is an typo i think sudo ifconfig e$interface down05:40
robotgeekufo: hmm yes05:41
uforemove the e05:41
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robotgeekAnpheus: ^^ remove the e05:41
ufosudo ifconfig $interface down05:41
Anpheusholy hell05:42
ufohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/988805:42
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_AnpheusHi.05:43
_AnpheusI've physically disconnected my other connection05:43
_AnpheusSo, it must be wireless, yes?05:43
ufoi think so :D05:44
robotgeekAnpheus: ifconfig05:44
_Anpheushey look, ra0 is showing recieved packets.05:44
_Anpheusspiffy05:44
_Anpheusand it only took 23,000 outgoing packets to get 70 incoming packets.05:44
ufocan you get only 1 ip from your isp?05:45
kalenedraelHeh.05:45
kalenedraelufo, in general, unless you pay for another or something.05:45
_AnpheusYeah, this is my only IP right now.05:45
_Anpheusand I'm getting 54Mb/s!05:45
_Anpheushuzzah!05:45
ufogreat05:46
_AnpheusEveryone, say huzzah! Say it out loud and you'll feel even better.05:46
robotgeek_Anpheus: that won't do, where's my beer :)05:47
_AnpheusAh I'd buy you a beer but, (a) you're a robot and we don't need to be letting out the magic smoke, and (b) I can't even buy beer yet.05:48
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_AnpheusSorry, robotgeek.05:49
_AnpheusI wish I could have my cake and drink beer too.05:50
robotgeek_Anpheus: heh, it's alrite05:50
InteliWasphey robotgeek i see your back05:50
_AnpheusI'll be going now05:50
robotgeekyeah, long time ago InteliWasp05:50
_Anpheussince I don't need you geniuses to fix my computer anymore. Thanks!05:50
InteliWaspsorry, the tv becond to me...05:50
_AnpheusAnd geniuses is not meant sarcastically, I hope to gain the level of knowledge of GNU/Linux that you guys have.05:51
Bicchii am going to install codeblocks ide from a .deb file, If i do not like it how do i remove it.05:53
InteliWaspok robotgeek, lets get back to me wireless...05:54
robotgeekInteliWasp: sure05:54
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InteliWasprobotgeek: booting....booting....05:55
robotgeekInteliWasp: cool05:55
InteliWaspit likes to hang on the network card05:55
robotgeekInteliWasp: ctrl + C06:00
InteliWaspit's up now06:00
InteliWasprobotgeek: i have the tarball unziped and all, how do i install06:00
InteliWasp?06:00
robotgeekInteliWasp: can you give me the link to the tarball too?06:00
InteliWasprobotgeek: uhhh, 1 sec06:00
InteliWasprobotgeek: I'm now using a diffrent comp06:00
robotgeekInteliWasp: was it the link i gave you in the afternoon06:00
InteliWasprobotgeek: http://questier.com/howto.html06:01
InteliWasprobotgeek: ya06:01
robotgeekInteliWasp: wow, this seems incredibly complicated!06:05
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robotgeekInteliWasp: not to worry ,as long you can post error messages back :)06:06
robotgeekInteliWasp: did you try the instructions for the mandrake system?06:07
glickdamn kde is soo unstable06:07
robotgeekglick: kde 3.5.1?06:07
glickcrashes sooo often wheeras ubuntu like NEVER grashed06:07
InteliWasprobotgeek: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Proxim&zoek=SHOW06:07
glickrobotgeek, yeah06:07
InteliWaspit's back up06:07
glickrobotgeek, the default one that comes with kubuntu06:08
robotgeekglick: hmm, no. you have a older version06:09
robotgeekInteliWasp: what was the name of your card again. sorry :)06:09
glickrobotgeek, the default version that comes with kubuntu06:09
robotgeekglick: i meant older than 3.5.106:09
glicki installed it earlier and i had to switch back to ubuntu06:09
glickand now my friend runs it and it crashes on him all the time06:09
robotgeekInteliWasp: or where is it on the list :)06:10
glickbeing written mainly in C++ as apposed to C like gnome, you would think it would have fewer bugs and thus be more stable06:10
robotgeekglick: unless you file bugs, they are not going to go away06:10
robotgeekglick: mine doesn't crash on me ;)06:10
glickrobotgeek, its hard to file bugs, when konqueror just crashes06:11
robotgeekglick: hmm, sorry06:11
glickits hard to remimber the exact input and button you pressed that made it die06:11
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InteliWasprobotgeek: i have the proxim  8420-WD06:12
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robotgeekInteliWasp: lsmod | grep orinoco06:13
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InteliWasprobotgeek: nothing06:14
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robotgeekInteliWasp: sudo modprobe orinoco_cs06:15
InteliWasprobotgeek: nothing06:15
robotgeekInteliWasp: now try the lsmod?06:15
InteliWasprobotgeek: just gave me a new prompt06:15
InteliWaspoh06:16
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InteliWasprobotgeek: yay06:16
Khris_dxI have a stupid question... I partitioned a HD with type 83 on /dev/hdc. I mounted the drive. I then transferred approx. 15gb of data from my home dir to this storage HD. It seem to transfer instantly. My question, is the data really transfered? how can I verify it? is there a chance that the data will be lost if I reboot?06:16
robotgeekInteliWasp: try "iwconfig"06:16
InteliWasprobotgeek: i see.. wait i'll but it on paste bin06:16
InteliWaspthere is now a sit0 but no wireless extentions06:17
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AnpheusHey.06:20
AnpheusIt's me again.06:20
KyralUhh where is the KeyBoard Shortcuts thing for KDE?06:23
AnpheusSo, how do I get Amarok to play an mp3?06:23
Kyral!mp306:23
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:23
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:23
KyralShould we rename ubotu kubotu in here?06:24
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Snake__Kyral: he runs gnome06:25
AnpheusBecause uh...06:25
AnpheusI can't play this mp3 I think06:25
KyralSnake__: I did too, your point?06:25
Anpheusand, you know, it's starting to bug me.06:25
KyralAnpheus: I play MP3s as well06:25
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Snake__Kr4t05: thats why its ubotu not kubotu :)06:26
Snake__Kyral: **06:26
AnpheusI've tried Amarok, and Noatun, and XMMS06:26
Anpheusand nothing is playing this mp306:26
Snake__Anpheus: did you do the mp3 thing06:26
KyralBeep should be able to play it06:26
Snake__!mp306:26
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:26
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:26
AnpheusI think maybe I'm just stupid.06:26
Snake__Anpheus: follow the directions in the link.06:26
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AnpheusI actually did do the mp3 one already.06:27
AnpheusAnd I can't seem to play this yet.06:27
Snake__Anpheus: try this: "sudo apt-get install amarok-xine"06:27
Snake__then go into amarok, and set your engine to "xine" tell me how that goes06:27
KyralHeh thats why06:27
KyralGood old Xine06:27
Kyraland where the hell are KeyBoard Shortcuts?06:28
Snake__Kyral: Kcontrol06:28
KyralI'm there06:28
Snake__ehh one sec06:28
Snake__lol06:28
Snake__its like accessibilty06:28
Anpheusah thanks06:28
Snake__Kyral: regional and accessibilty06:29
Kyral...who would think to llook there?06:29
AnpheusI'll treat myself to the antics of Adam Sandler on actually running Kubuntu and using samba among other things...06:29
Snake__lol06:29
AnpheusNow just to do those 3 english papers that, you know, I should have been writing instead of screwing with Linux.06:29
robotgeekKyral: i'll make sure to document that :)06:30
Snake__Anpheus: got xine runnin yet? :)06:30
AnpheusI'm playing Hannakah06:30
robotgeekAnpheus: amarok-engines-xine06:30
Anpheusyeah, got it.06:30
Anpheushey... ok, new problem06:30
Snake__robotgeek: amarok-xine ;)06:30
Snake__Anpheus: whats that06:30
AnpheusK, I succesfully managed to access a server in my domain06:31
Anpheuswith the correct permissions06:31
Snake__oh god06:31
Snake__no my area06:31
Snake__lol06:31
Snake__not*06:31
robotgeekInteliWasp: you here?06:31
AnpheusOh, no, I am connected to the server I want to connect to!06:31
InteliWaspyep06:31
AnpheusBut Amarok won't play an mp3 on it06:31
AnpheusIs there some way Samba can mount a directory on another server?06:31
robotgeekInteliWasp: hmm, dmesg06:31
Snake__Anpheus: oh...hmm i ran into this problem to06:32
AnpheusSimilar to how you map network drives in Windows?06:32
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AnpheusI basically just want to set up smb://zeus/muzak/ (windows: \\zeus\muzak) as a network drive and allow me to play music from it.06:32
Snake__Anpheus: you said its a network dir right?06:32
AnpheusYep.06:33
Snake__Anpheus: Ill only give you this link if you promise only to do the network folders part.06:33
Anpheusuhm, ok.06:33
Snake__its a very outdated guide, and most of the other things will break your system06:33
AnpheusAh.06:33
Snake__http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountnetworkfolders06:33
InteliWasprobotgeek: the last 2 lines show orinoco 0.14alpha206:34
Anpheusnow06:34
robotgeekInteliWasp: can you paste them somewhere?06:34
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Anpheusthis appears to be for merely shared network drives, will this work if it's shared via Microsoft Active Directory services?06:35
InteliWasprobotgeek: not easly...06:35
robotgeekInteliWasp: okay, are they good messages or bad ones ;P06:35
Snake__Anpheus: ehhhhhhhh notsure06:35
Anpheusmmm06:35
Snake__never used it06:35
Snake__give it a shot?06:35
InteliWasprobotgeek: let me type one...06:35
AnpheusRobotgeek: Do you know how I could mount an Active Directory shared location?06:35
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robotgeekAnpheus: nope, sorry06:35
Snake__robotgeek: man this thing takes me 2 hours to complie06:36
AnpheusSnake__: I'm going to ask the folks at #ubuntu, the instructions should be just about identical.06:36
Snake__Anpheus: if its CLI it will be06:36
Snake__robotgeek: (1.4 amarok that is)06:36
robotgeekSnake__: enjoy your software :)06:36
Snake__lol06:36
robotgeekSnake__: you could have added dapper sources, and maybe said apt-get -b amarok or something, which would have built it for ya06:37
InteliWasprobotgeek: [4295991.705000]  orinoco_cs 0.14alpha2 (David Gibson <email> Pavel Roskin <email>06:37
Snake__robotgeek: do you know assembly code?06:37
InteliWasprobotgeek: i sniped the email part06:37
robotgeekInteliWasp: yeah, that guy is the developer :)06:38
InteliWasprobotgeek: is it starting to look to you like the stars alinged to prevent me from using wirerless in linux?06:39
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InteliWasp:?06:40
InteliWasp:/06:40
robotgeekSnake__: i used to know it06:40
robotgeekInteliWasp: hmm, it's just that i am not familiar with the wireless card in question06:40
InteliWaspman... of all the orinoco cards on ebay, i chose the one that is not native to linux....06:41
Snake__robotgeek: you should try out this game called droidbattles, I cant play it myself, but you create virtual robots, and write how they fight in assemby. I thought you used to build them, so I thought maybe you would be intrested :)06:41
robotgeekInteliWasp: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc4.tar.gz06:42
InteliWasprobotgeek: and on top of that the inf file is so messed up i don't think it would ever work with ndis-wrapper06:42
robotgeekSnake__: thanks, but i will pass for writing robots in python06:42
AnpheusI don't know if the folks in #ubuntu can hear me.06:43
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robotgeekAnpheus: patience06:43
robotgeekInteliWasp: download that06:43
Snake__lol robotgeek :)06:43
robotgeekInteliWasp: bvm, i think it's different06:44
robotgeeknvm, i meant06:44
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InteliWasprobotgeek: will i need to move it into it's own folder b4 extraxting?06:45
robotgeekInteliWasp: no, don't do anything. it's the same driver we used before. i'm reading up on the net06:46
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InteliWasprobotgeek: so have i set the record for the longest support session yet?  :P06:51
robotgeekInteliWasp: actually no06:51
robotgeekInteliWasp: i have helped a lady in Australia recover her data over irc :)06:51
InteliWaspwow, i hope it worked?06:51
robotgeekit was the most exhausting support session, about 4-5 hours06:51
robotgeekyeah, it worked06:52
InteliWaspthat's good to know06:52
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robotgeekInteliWasp: http://questier.com/howto.html why don't you follow that howto?06:52
InteliWasprobotgeek: wich part?06:53
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robotgeekInstallation (on Mandrake 9.2) << InteliWasp06:53
InteliWasprobotgeek: since i do not have internet access for the lappy, i guess i will call it a nite06:54
robotgeekInteliWasp: hmm, okay06:54
InteliWaspi hope it will work06:54
InteliWaspbye all!!!06:55
robotgeeknight InteliWasp06:55
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Blippehow do i get parport0 (not in /dev and used by my scanner) accessable by other than root/sudo?07:11
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id_sonichello, everybody, I need a qt client for moveabletype.07:13
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E-Trainwhat is the wiki that has instructions to install the files to watch dvd's08:01
robotgeekE-Train, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:01
E-Trainthanks08:01
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csseyahhi08:06
csseyahquestion guys!\08:06
csseyahanyone here have winetools???08:07
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jerwarefellaz08:16
jerwarehow can i have my printer detected automatticaly08:16
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mijndertHi there. How long will it take before OOo 2.0.2 will come availible in APT?08:28
E-Traini just tried to add a repository to apt and now i cant open apt. how can i remove that repository?08:28
mijndertsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list .. you can delete it there08:29
E-Trainthanks08:30
E-Trainmijndert it says it is read-only when i open it in emacs how can i edit it08:33
mijndertYou will need root privileges to write the file08:33
E-Trainahh so sudo ehh08:34
E-Trainworked; you rule.08:34
mijndertheh np08:34
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E-Trainanother question; how do i install libdvdcss2 if its not on the repository list anymore08:36
mijndertTry this: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability08:37
mijndertAlso read the  #How to add extra repositories part :)08:38
robotgeekE-Train, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:39
robotgeekYou will need to enable multiverse and universe,i guess08:39
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E-Trainit gave me a message when i tried to sudo apt-get install libdvdcss208:40
E-Traincan someone message me so i can paste the error08:40
robotgeekE-Train, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:41
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E-Trainhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/989608:42
E-Trainany tips on that one?08:43
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robotgeekE-Train: did you even read the wiki link i gave you?08:45
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robotgeekE-Train: you need libdvdread308:51
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E-Trainit drive me nuts that i have had ubuntu for 3 months and cant play a dvd yet08:53
E-Trainand yes i read and tried the wiki08:53
robotgeekE-Train: did you install libdvdread308:54
E-Trainyes08:54
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robotgeekE-Train: did you try opening it  in vlc?08:54
E-Trainmplayer, totum, and kaffine08:55
E-Trainnot vlc08:55
yo_yovlc open everything08:55
yo_yoi already use vlc08:56
robotgeektrue08:56
yo_yo:)08:56
yo_yowhere are you from?08:59
yo_yo:)08:59
yo_yoboys...do you know exist a program like ethereal for windows?09:02
andredyo_yo: ethereal :)09:03
E-Traini am getting some error about internal gstreamer error: negoation problem09:03
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robotgeekE-Train: hmm, maybe ask in #ubuntu too09:05
yo_yoE-Train download vlc09:06
yo_yo;)09:06
yo_yoandred, ethereal go under windows too?09:06
yo_yo:D09:06
andredyo_yo: yes09:07
yo_yogood09:07
yo_yo:D09:07
yo_yothanks09:07
yo_yo:*09:07
E-Trainhow do you use vlc to open a disk i just tried an dont know what to do09:07
yo_yoE-Train...excuse me....where are you from?09:08
robotgeekE-Train: File -> Open Dic09:08
robotgeekDisc09:08
yo_yoor play09:08
yo_yo:)09:08
yo_yoand find the disk09:09
yo_yo:)09:09
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yo_yogood morning C-O-L-T and tanghus09:10
C-O-L-Tyo_yo: good morning to you too09:10
robotgeekyo_yo: you might get better responses in #kubuntu-offtopic09:10
yo_yono problem09:11
yo_yo:)09:12
C-O-L-Tyo_yo: this is not a chat channel. People over here discuss kubuntu related problems and help each other. If you would like to chat with kubuntu users go to #kubuntu-offtopic09:13
Hobbseehi yo_yo09:14
yo_yoah ok09:14
C-O-L-Tyo_yo: but this is not a strict channel so you can chat here also :)(09:14
yo_yoexcuseme09:14
C-O-L-T:)09:14
yo_yo._.09:14
C-O-L-Tyo_yo: no problem don't ask for excuses09:15
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C-O-L-TAnyway who can tell me where can I get a dock bar like in MAC OS X09:17
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HobbseeC-O-L-T: kde-look.org or kde-apps.org09:18
robotgeekC-O-L-T: smoothdock, i think it is called09:18
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C-O-L-THobbsee: ok thanks09:18
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C-O-L-Trobotgeek: can you tell me a text editor which counts how many words have you written down?09:31
robotgeekC-O-L-T: cat file.xml | wc09:31
trappistwc -l file.xml09:31
trappisterr09:31
C-O-L-Trobotgeek: what is that?09:31
trappist-w for words09:31
robotgeekC-O-L-T: wc == word count09:32
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robotgeektrappist: i do make use of a lot of redundant cats09:32
C-O-L-Trobotgeek: but where to write this or how?09:32
robotgeekC-O-L-T: in a console/terminal09:32
C-O-L-Trobotgeek: oh I see. :))) Thanks09:32
C-O-L-Trobotgeek: it gives me three numbers what the hell are the three  5     111     54709:34
C-O-L-Tthe middle one is the word count09:35
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C-O-L-Tword number09:35
trappistcoruja: lines words and characters09:35
trappisterr for you, C-O-L-T09:35
C-O-L-Ttrappist: thanks09:35
robotgeekC-O-L-T: man wc09:35
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C-O-L-Trobotgeek: thanks for everything09:36
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ZenethianHas anyone had any problems with hearing pops after artsplay plays something?09:39
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kameronis there a qt frontend to vim?09:45
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Zenethiankameron: there's a KDE one called kvim09:46
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kameronZenethian, roger09:46
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Zenethianit nicely embeds into a variety of KDE editors that support swappable editors09:46
Zenethianlike quanta and kate09:46
kameronkvim is obsolete, these replace it: vim-tcl vim-python vim-perl vim-gtk vim-gnome vim09:47
Zenethianwow09:47
Zenethianthat's pretty odd.09:47
kameronhey?09:47
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C-O-L-Trobotgeek: where can i get themes for konversation09:54
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C-O-L-Trobotgeek: kde-apps.org09:54
robotgeekC-O-L-T: kde-look.org maybe09:54
robotgeekkameron: yes, there was something called as yzis also09:55
kameronyzis = kvim?09:55
robotgeekkameron: i've given up gui vim and have started using console vim. kick ass integration09:55
robotgeekkameron: actually no, it's a different project09:55
robotgeekkvim is dead09:55
kameroni've always used console vim, just looking for something else.09:55
robotgeekkameron: heh, i was looking too, just ended up reading the manual for improved productivity09:56
kameronhah, alright.09:57
SkrotHi. Anyone here using a centrino and using speedstep?09:57
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Tonio_hello10:02
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duckdownCan someone tell me what is required to connect to SSL IRC servers?  I have all kinds of openssl, libssl* packages installed, and have plenty of clients with SSL support, yet, it always just hangs when I connect to the SSL port but doesn't exchange keys or what not.. What did I forget to enable or configure?10:25
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Hobbsee!backup11:03
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee11:03
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DeBertmornin11:07
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vickstrying out the latest kubuntu dapper. man has this come a long way since breezy. it rocks. good work y'all!11:13
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ubuntuany1 knows if I can get my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA to work under kubuntu?11:16
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Latis-is it possible?11:16
tango_I'm downloading the latest Breezy Live CD ISO, which I will use later today to (hopefully) recover an unbootable PC of a friend of mine. From the last time I tried the mixed Live/Install DVD I remember that I had no idea what the user password was (when running Live), which meant I couldn't sudo or anything. Will I have the same problem this time?11:18
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flixorcould somebody explain to me what scim or skim is11:49
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slow-motionhallo11:49
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slow-motionhttp://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fscim < das scim oder http://www.projectscim.com/ < das hier?11:50
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slow-motionhttp://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fscim < this scim or http://www.projectscim.com/ < this?11:51
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Raymanit's the last one and a kde front-end to it.11:52
RaymanI can't get amarok 1.4_beta2 to play mp3s with gstreamer0.1x and alsa11:52
Rayman:f11:52
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navidHow can I add a network interface to Kubuntu?11:54
Rayman!dapper11:54
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update11:54
navidI have an external modem that is not detected11:55
navidI can connect using pppconfig though11:55
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navidBut I want to know the traffic stats11:55
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navidSo I downloaded KNetDockApp11:55
Hobbseenavid: kdesu kwrite /etc/network/interfaces11:56
navidAnd what should I write to add the modem?11:56
navidIts connected on ttyS0 Hobbsee11:56
Hobbseeah....11:56
Hobbseeauto ttySO, then some more stuff on the next line11:56
Hobbseeman interfaces11:56
Hobbseeand it'll tell you how11:57
Hobbseei've never tried a modem before11:57
navidThanks Hobbsee11:57
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me2win!lamp12:23
ubotu[lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP12:23
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ph8hey guys, for some reason all my input/text fields in firefox display with a grey background (which is the same colour as the blinking cursor (:/)) - i can't seem to get rid of it by adjusting kde themes or anything, it's driving me nuts! can anyone help? screenshot @ http://www.cooksworldwide.net/snapshot.png12:48
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sorinhello12:57
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Ardarandirmoin01:23
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DarkSilverhi can anuone help me with mouting shit?01:26
DarkSilveranyone*01:26
DarkSilvermounting*01:27
DarkSilverxD01:27
hatake_kakashimounting what?01:27
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tristan_hello01:28
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tristan_I created a script I put in autostart but it does not work01:29
tristan_Anyone can help?01:29
hatake_kakashitristan_: maybe you forgot to set the eXecute bit?01:29
tristan_no it's execute01:29
tristan_here it is the script01:30
tristan_#!/bin/sh01:30
tristan_xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf01:30
tristan_I am the owner and it can execute but the only thing it does at start up is opening xmodmap.conf with kate01:30
hatake_kakashiyou are probably supposed to do something like ./foo.sh  if that does not work, bash ./foo.sh01:31
DarkSilverhatake_kakashi, naruto fan.. cool ^^01:31
hatake_kakashiDarkSilver: mmmh01:32
DarkSilverwell kubuntu sais the hard disks and partition are mounted.. but storage media is empty :/01:32
DarkSilverwww.darksilver.nl/files/media01:32
DarkSilverprintscreen01:32
tristan_hatake_kakashi, I have to replache #! /bin/sh by ./foo.sh?01:32
hatake_kakashitristan_: no for the execution via command line01:33
hatake_kakashiDarkSilver: hmm, paste your 'mount' into pastebin's site01:33
tristan_hatake_kakashi, Sorry but I don't know about bash scripting...01:34
DarkSilveryou mean my fstab hatake_kakashi ?01:34
hatake_kakashiDarkSilver: no the output of 'cat /etc/mtab'01:34
hatake_kakashitristan_: hmm..01:34
hatake_kakashitristan_: I normally start programs via .bashrc or .bash_profile, etc not sure about starting it upon logging in X01:36
tristan_hatake_kakashi, Ok, so if in .bashrc I put xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf it should work?01:37
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hatake_kakashitristan_: it probably will work01:38
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ph8hey guys, for some reason all my input/text fields in firefox display with a grey background (which is the same colour as the blinking cursor (:/)) - i can't seem to get rid of it by adjusting kde themes or anything, it's driving me nuts! can anyone help? screenshot @ http://www.cooksworldwide.net/snapshot.png01:45
highquality laptop for sale 500$ want it gone today. price includes shipping, case, wireless router. message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com01:49
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Dreamstarhi guys01:59
jackphilredhat has kudzu, what's in the ubuntu?01:59
Dreamstari'm trying to install my EPSON C62 printer on ubuntu but it says that CUPS server isn't responding even if i can see it is running! what can i do?01:59
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hatake_kakashijackphil: what is kudzu, a hardware detecting manager type of thing?02:02
ArdarandirDreamstar, a widespread kubuntu problem under kde 3.5 or higher02:03
Ardarandirgot it too02:03
jackphilhatake, yes. i want a analog in ubuntu02:04
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Ardarandirsuppose its sth bout root-rights but not sure02:04
hatake_kakashijackphil: hmm, not sure02:05
DreamstarArdarandir: i dunno why it seems like i've succeeded installing the printer...it is printing a test page now02:05
DreamstarArdarandir: well it prints...but in the wrong way :D02:05
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Ardarandirok.. my printer istn printing at all02:06
Ardarandirits not responding in any way02:07
Ardarandirim sry, but ive got no time now.. have work to do.. bye... :(02:07
DreamstarArdarandir: once i was in System settings--->printer tab, i got the error message from CUPS server not responding, however when i clicked on the Add tab i've been able to install a printer anyway02:08
Dreamstarok have a nice working day, see ya ;)02:08
Ardarandirthats the same like wuith my printer02:08
Ardarandirbut hes not responding02:08
Ardarandirbye02:08
Ardarandiras i sid,  wide-spread problem - i got it since the upgrade to kde 3.502:08
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ahmedI'm a newbie with kubuntu, where do I download the latest 'devel' iso ??02:34
ahmedbingo, dapper flight4 found it02:35
ahmedis kubuntu still second grade citizen ? (last time I checked it was)02:36
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_mindspinit doesn't need that much support haha ;-)02:43
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slow-motionbbl02:50
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sorinWhere are smb locations mounted? I'd like to use amarok to catalogue a smb share.03:02
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_mindspinI mount it to /mnt/servername03:05
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sorinAnd Konqueror?03:06
sorinNetwork dir, wherever that may be?03:06
_mindspinyou'll have a look03:06
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_mindspin.kde/cache somewhere...03:06
qwertyuhi there!03:07
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qwertyui need help!03:07
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_mindspinYou could check the samba settings and the file associations/paths in kcontrol03:07
qwertyuanyone willing to help me? i'm a newie here..03:08
_evil_h_just ask your question03:08
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qwertyuFirst, my machine specs: AMD Duron, ATI Radeon 9250, 375MB ram.03:09
qwertyumy problem is:03:10
qwertyui run kubuntu nicely!03:10
qwertyu5 minutes later...03:10
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qwertyuit goes blank.. my monitor is like turned off.03:11
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qwertyuany idea?03:11
_mindspinwhich kubuntu ?03:11
_evil_h_does the computer reboot or does the monitor just shut off?03:12
Raymanmy X won't start with linux-image-2.6.15-17-k7 -- starts fine with the -386 one.03:12
Raymancould it be the nvidia03:12
qwertyui've installed ubuntu before (5.10) and the syntom is the same with kubuntu.03:12
_mindspindid you have a try with, say vesa driver?03:13
bobbleHi, anybody know how to stop audio cds autoloading into konqueror?03:14
qwertyuoh. my monitor not shut off, but it is like "shut off". just like using "blank" screen saver03:14
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_evil_h_ok when i try logging in to Kubuntu I get the following error: the following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:03:14
_evil_h_no write access to '/home/raymond/.ICEauthority'03:15
_evil_h_what did i break and how do i fix it?^^^03:15
qwertyuvesa driver? never heard that.. but before i installed kubuntu, i have mandriva 2006 and it run nicely on my machine03:16
_mindspinvesa is just a simple driver that works on "every" graphics card03:17
_mindspinyou probably have driver/xorg related error03:17
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qwertyumesa=vesa or mesa<>vesa?03:18
_mindspinvesa03:18
_mindspincan you log in on console?03:19
qwertyui have 3d acceleration on ubuntu and mandriva.03:20
qwertyubut not in redhat enterprise 4.03:20
qwertyuvesa? can anyone give me any URL to find it? i would like to know more about "vesa"03:22
_evil_h_!vesa03:23
bipolardoes anyone know what happed to kaffeine-gstreamer in dapper?03:23
_evil_h_http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/manindex4.html03:23
_evil_h_qwertyu^^03:23
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_evil_h_qwertyu: vesa is a basic driver that works on any video card and provides 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 screen resolutions at 16 bit color and below03:25
_evil_h_and no 3d acceleration^03:25
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qwertyuoo.. that bad..03:27
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_evil_h_ok when i try logging in to Kubuntu I get the following error: the following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:03:29
_evil_h_ no write access to '/home/raymond/.ICEauthority'03:29
_evil_h_KDE is unable to start.03:29
_evil_h_what did i break and how do i fix it?^^03:29
HkS-3207mm03:29
HkS-3207o wow :x03:29
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qwertyui can run kubuntu with 1080x1024, true colour and 3d acceleration for five minutes. is there are any tool to change 5minutes to.. infinite?03:29
HkS-3207sound ain't working on my apple iBook03:30
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_evil_h_how do i change permissions in Konsole?03:32
HkS-3207chmod ?03:33
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racterhello - i am using madwifi with a belkin pcmcia card on kubuntu and i have to re-run the command 'sudo dhclient' at the terminal about every 30 seconds in order to keep my connection - does anyone have an idea what this problem might be?03:33
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qwertyupermission? i think.. by using "chmod"03:36
_evil_h_damn i really dont want to reformat and install Kubuntu03:37
racterqwertyu: what?03:37
qwertyuoh sorry! ;_)03:38
_evil_h_!ICEauthority03:39
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _evil_h_03:39
kameronwhat engines are available for amarok?03:39
_evil_h_xine, gstreamer03:39
_evil_h_theres more but i dont know what they are03:40
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kameronyeah, i used to use gstreamer.. but it doesn't look like it's available in dapper.03:41
kameronit lists xine, and arts. but i want to use gstreamer.03:41
kameroni thought maybe i was crazy for a minute.03:41
_evil_h_i dont know about dapper. im still using Breezy.03:42
kameronhmm.03:43
kameroni have all the packages installed. it's just not listing gstreamer.03:43
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_evil_h_so anyone have any idea how to fix my problem? or am i just going to have to format and reinstall?03:47
ahmed*buntu doesnt really have any configuration utilities, right ?03:48
racterthere are gui's but not command-line configuration utils like in redhat (i think)03:49
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qwertyu_evil_h_: i would delete the .ICEauthority file and restart the computer. kubuntu will replace the file with the new one on startup03:51
racterwhat's in that file anyway?03:51
_evil_h_ok. will try that03:51
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qwertyui guest: "kubuntu will replace the file with the new one on startup".. :-03:53
qwertyui only GUEST.. :-)03:53
_evil_h_whats the delete command?03:54
ufo_evil_h_, rm03:54
qwertyurm .ICEauthority03:54
_evil_h_ok03:54
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_evil_h_well lets see what that does03:55
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qwertyu"guest" = "guess" (shameful spelling mistakes)03:57
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_evil_h_it worked03:58
_evil_h_WHOO HOO!!!03:58
slow-motionre03:59
qwertyu_evil_h_ : :-D04:01
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ahmedracter: u said there are conf GUIs for *buntu ?? what's the name plz ?04:18
ractersure in kubuntu you can use 'kcontrol'04:18
racterin ubuntu there's a menu option under the 'computer' or 'system' menu (i can't remember what it's called)04:19
ahmedthat launches ?04:19
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racteri haven't used gnome ubuntu in a while, i don't remember how the config is set up there04:20
ahmedso kcontrol is all there is...04:20
ahmedI will use kubuntu too04:20
racterwhat do you need to configure?04:20
ahmedservers :)04:20
ahmedever wonder why redhat/suse write custom conf GUIs ?04:21
ahmed;)04:21
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nrdbI had a setup where when I pressed the power button the computer would power down, it doesn't do this any more can someone help in getting this to work again?04:22
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racterahmed - cool, that would be really nice04:23
Kyralnrdb: How is this related to Linux?04:23
ahmedracter: the project is there, just slow04:23
Kyralracter: they have been working on it04:23
ractercool04:23
nrdbKyral: I am using kubuntu04:23
Kyralnrdb: Yes, but how does this relate to Linux? Sounds like a hardware problem :P04:24
Kyralnrdb: Check your BIOS settings04:24
ahmedKyral: acpi problem04:24
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nrdbKyral: the only thing that changed is I did an update on the install.04:24
KyralThen again I have a ****ed up power button that requires me to ducttape it down for the computer to stay on04:25
racterwhoa04:25
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KyralBut then again04:25
Kyralthe case is silver04:25
Kyraland the ducttape is silverish :P04:26
weedar_You remove it every time you turn off your computer Kyral ?04:26
nrdbI suppose it does look to bad, but if it goes thats the main thing.04:26
Kyralweedar_: You assume I turn it off04:26
weedar_heh04:26
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KyralIt turns off sometimes, but not by choice04:27
weedar_My 'puter powers up after powering down unless I keep the power button pressed in (or disconnect the power cable)04:27
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nrdbUnless it in use 24/7 its just a waste of power and generates polution to leave it on.04:27
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KyralOne of the Electrical Eng majors on my floor is bound and determined to fix it04:28
Kyralnrdb: MPrime04:28
KyralPlus...I cannot sleep without the sound of the fans going04:28
weedar_I get the waste of power part, but how does a computer generate pollution?04:28
nrdbKyral: what??04:28
Kyralnrdb: Ever hear of "White Noise"?04:28
weedar_Ooh I hated that movie04:29
weedar_(just kidding, I know what you mean)04:29
Kyralweedar_: I meant the concept04:29
weedar_;)04:29
nrdbweedar_: the use of any electricity generates polution.04:29
weedar_how nrdb ?04:29
KyralSolar Power04:29
KyralWind Power04:29
Kyralonce we get practical Fusion we are all set04:29
weedar_I get my electricy from water =)04:29
weedar_*electricity04:30
nrdbKyral: not as much but there was an large amout generated in making them in the first place.04:30
KyralNuclear Power isn't very polluting04:30
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nrdbKyral: what about the waste that stay arround for the next 10000 years?04:31
KyralShoot it to space?04:32
royhi, I have a dhcp question04:32
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racternrdb - shoot it into the sun; nuclear fusion happens all the time there anyway.04:33
Kyrallol04:33
nrdbKyral: thought of that, but too many rocket blow up, if one of those had a nuclear payload I woundn't want to be near.04:33
royI just installed kubuntu a while back, and after some googling, I found that I just needed to run dhclient eth0 to set up a connection via my router...but it seems I have to do this with every login, is there a way it can be done automatically?04:33
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weedar_roy, what you want to do is edit /etc/network/interfaces04:33
Kyralroy: sudo kedit /etc/network/interfaces and on the line that says "iface eth0" add "dhcp" to the end04:34
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weedar_yeah, what he said04:34
roycurrently it's "iface eth0 inet static", with some addl lines like address, netmask, etc. below04:35
weedar_change static to dhcp04:35
weedar_and remove the lines beneath04:35
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ractercan i add my ath0 interface to this config and somehow get around this problem i'm having of having to re-run the command "sudo dhclient" every 30 seconds to keep connected to the internet?04:36
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nrdbback to the question I asked before, my computer has stoped powering down when I press the power button. where does this get setup?04:37
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weedar_nrdb, it doesn't power down even if you hold it in for a few seconds?04:42
roythanks guys, I'll see if it works on next reboot ^_^04:42
nrdbweedar_: yes, it just turns off then.04:42
weedar_oh sorry, I misunderstood "powering down" :)04:42
nrdbweedar_: it was working untill a few days ago, I think it stoped after an upgrade.04:43
LeeJunFanargh! farking kopete is pi**ing me off with the yahoo disconnects.04:43
weedar_nrdb, did you upgrade your kernel?04:44
nrdbweedar_: I don't remember what apt-get did04:44
andredLeeJunFan: the problem is solved in kopete 0.1204:45
weedar_nrdb, if you use GRUB as your bootloader you would have gotten a new boot-option if it upgraded your kernel04:45
weedar_So if you originally had two options : 2.6.8 and 2.6.8 (secure) you would for example get 2.6.9 and 2.6.9 (secure) in addition to the two previous ones04:46
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nrdbweedar_: grub allways has two things to boot from I don't remember what there exact numbers where before.04:48
weedar_nrdb, okay, for me I always get more options when upgrading to a new kernel. So I guess we can assume that is not the problem :)04:49
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angasule!formats04:50
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule04:50
nrdbweedar_: I don't think so, I presume some config has been changed somewhere.04:50
angasule!restricted_formats04:50
ubotuangasule: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:50
angasule!java04:50
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:50
angasule!flash04:50
ubotuhmm... flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:50
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_patrick_quelqu'un a -t-il utilis kopete avec gnomemeeting ?04:52
LeeJunFanandred: where does one get kopete .12? I'm running dapper btw.04:52
weedar__patrick, French Kubuntu channel -> #kubuntu-fr04:52
LeeJunFanah, perhaps it's in this batch of updates I'm doing now.04:53
andredLeeJunFan: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kopete04:53
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andredLeeJunFan: i have a repository with packages if you don't wanna compile it for yourself04:53
LeeJunFanandred: okay, thought maybe it was a deb somewhere, no prob. I can't compile it.04:53
LeeJunFanI can I mean.04:53
LeeJunFanandred: thanks.04:54
andredLeeJunFan: there is a deb. add 'deb http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete dapper main' to your sources.list04:54
andredLeeJunFan: but it's beta atm04:55
roygah...I'm having trouble getting amarok to play mp3s, can anyone help? it's telling me that GStreamer can't play mp3s...04:56
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weedar_andred, the kopete homepage calls it alpha even04:59
djk_is there a simple way i can download certain packages with all their dependencies, without installing them, then burn them and install them on a pc with a fresh kubuntu installation. the pc which would be used to download the packages runs kubuntu, but not a fresh installation04:59
weedar_roy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- Read the part on mp305:00
andredweedar_: the beta was not officially announced yet05:00
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weedar_djk_, use the man-page for apt-get (but a hint: -d option downloads only ;-)05:01
weedar_andred, so you're leaking secret information then ;)05:01
roythanks!05:01
gammahow can i get the katapult tray icon to appear again after i put don't show in tray?05:01
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roywhat does it mean when I get something like this:05:07
royPackage libmad0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:07
royThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:07
royis only available from another source05:07
royE: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate05:07
weedar_My guess is that you haven't added universe / multiverse to your sources.list05:08
_itaim off for today05:08
_itatake care05:08
royyou're right...I haven;t05:09
royI'll try it out05:09
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sebastianhallo05:09
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linuxboyfriendhi all05:11
djclue917gamma: edit the file ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc05:11
linuxboyfriendis it necessary to have a 3D card for XGL05:11
djclue917change SystrayIcon=true05:11
djclue917then, killall -KILL katapult05:11
gammadjclue917: doesn't exist here because i thought deleting would fix it05:11
gamma:P05:12
LeeJunFanandred: is it just me or are kdelibs-dev's dependancies all afubar?05:12
gammactrl+c in the open katapult window calls the config05:12
djclue917gamma: then you have to restart katapult05:12
djclue917gamma: killall -KILL katapult05:12
gammadjclue917: i did.. it doesn't write a new config even with kde restarted05:12
gammadjclue917: already did05:12
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djclue917gamma: hmm05:12
djclue917gamma: wait up05:13
gammadjclue917: i fixed it.. appreciate the help though05:13
djclue917gamma: ok. you're welcome.05:13
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linuxboyfriendcan anyone tell me about glx?05:15
linuxboyfriendoh05:15
linuxboyfriendsorry its xgl05:15
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djclue917linuxboyfriend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGL05:16
djclue917linuxboyfriend: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXgl05:17
linuxboyfrienddjclue917: thanks lemme check05:17
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ryanakcafor someone who wants to become a Unix System Administrator, what language would you suggest learning? Python or C?05:21
djclue917ryanakca: both. :p05:22
djclue917ryanakca: well i guess it's better to start off with C since UNIX traces it's roots from C...05:23
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ryanakcadjclue917: aye, kk05:23
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Riddellbash05:32
nrdbI am trying to get the power button to shutdown the computer, I have found that it is executing '/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh' this executes the line 'dcop --all-sessions --all-users ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 0 && exit 0' this causes the error 'DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket' and 'ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!' can anyone tell me what this means.05:32
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tijnsry did a /ame :s05:33
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DuNaMiSHi, I'm using kubuntu 5.10 and I'm trying to install wx.NET, does anyone knows how to do this05:45
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Ras420i am wondering why ubuntu uses ext3fs instead of reiserfs, why is this???05:50
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roymy kubuntu install doesn't seem to want me to go to a resolution higher than 1028x768, is this normal05:54
roy?05:54
ccc_Ras420: it was considered a better choice, i guess.05:55
ccc_roy: can you monitor handle more? perhaps you should try the drivers for your video card.05:55
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royI'm dual booting with WinXP, and XP has a higher resolution, so yes, my monitor can handle more06:00
roydoes nvidia provide linux drivers?06:00
ccc_!nvidia06:00
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:00
ccc_check those links06:00
roythanks!06:01
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aztakhowdy folks, when's dapper planned to be released?06:06
aztak!dapper06:06
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update06:06
aztakah - there I go :)06:06
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ph8hi all06:20
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ph8I'm hoping someone can tell me how to change my keyboard shortcuts for things like desktop changing etc?06:20
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manuhi06:21
manueverybody06:21
manuy a t'il des francais par la ?06:21
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ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin06:24
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ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:24
manuok merci !06:24
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royhi06:26
royhow can I change my resolution to higher than 1078x768? The "Configure Desktop" dialog doesn't seem to support it06:27
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Riddellroy: dapper or breezy?06:28
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royum...I don't know, sorry06:29
royhow can I tell?06:29
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royoh...I think it's breezy06:31
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StucKmanhi all. I'm experiencing some problems printing in a smb-reachable printer. I can login perfectly, so no auth problems. but if I send a test page, cups goes nuts, eats all the cpu (but niced) and nothing reaches the print server. I tried loging in w/ smbclient, and I can, I can even consult the queue, but when I try to print a ps file , all I got is one page w/ the ps header (the printer is not ps AFAIK, it's an epson 5700). so, any hi06:37
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inteliwasphow do i find out what kernel i am running?06:42
me2winuhh06:43
me2winhave you modified the kernel in any way?06:43
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robotgeekinteliwasp: uname -a06:43
me2winor that way :D06:43
inteliwaspthankyou!!!06:45
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me2winrobotgeek, any specific reason why it doesnt print distro?06:47
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robotgeekme2win: that is handled by lsb_release -a06:50
me2winooo06:50
me2winty much06:50
theineIs it me or does konqueror in Dapper have lots of trouble rendering http://planet.ubuntu.com ?06:51
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me2wintheine, checking06:52
inteliwasprobotgeek: I was the guy  with the orinoco card problems... i am getting install errors06:52
robotgeektheine: interesting, it ismuch slower on konq06:53
me2wintheine, same here, much slower06:53
robotgeekinteliwasp: brb, lemme get coffee :)06:53
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inteliwasprobotgeek: ok   :P06:53
me2wintheine, it IS 169.2 kb06:54
me2winbut still... lol06:54
me2winSeems like it has trouble with the db06:54
aseigoyes, looks like a bug in khtml in 3.506:54
aseigohmm. it's even pretty slow in firefox06:55
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me2winaseigo, firefox renders it quickly actually06:57
me2winfor a 169 KB page06:57
inteliwasprobotgeek: here is what I am trying to do... allong with errors :(     http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59294906:58
robotgeekinteliwasp: thanks, looking07:00
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robotgeekinteliwasp: can you join #wireless07:04
robotgeekinteliwasp: well, no need07:05
inteliwasprobotgeek, over your head? ;)07:05
robotgeekinteliwasp: can you tell me if it's a 11b card?07:06
inteliwasprobotgeek, yes 11b07:06
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ph8I'm hoping someone can tell me how to change my keyboard shortcuts for things like desktop changing etc?07:10
me2winph8, its in the system settings07:11
me2winif you go to the kde menu, then system settings07:11
me2winits undeerrr.....07:12
ccc_regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts07:12
ccc_:)07:12
me2winthere ya go!07:12
me2winccc_, <- He's tha man07:12
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ccc_\o/07:13
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vickswhen i try to enable my wireless device (rt2570 usb-dongle) in kde it only flickers on and back off again. i can enable it in gnome. anyone knows what could be wrong?07:14
robotgeekvicks: hmm, lot of people are having problems with the wireless with gui. why don't you try it in command line?07:16
robotgeekvicks, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto07:16
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vicksthanks robotgeek07:16
leafwanyone aware of what's up with the bug report system, the malone?07:16
leafwevenr since the move from bugzilla to malone I get this feeling the reported bugs are blatanly ignored07:17
robotgeekleafw: not really07:17
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robotgeekinteliwasp: http://questier.com/wl_lkm_722_abg.tar.gz why don't we try it with this one?07:18
leafwrobotgeek: where can one report "annoyances", which are not really bugs?07:20
leafwfor example, konqueror insists in deleting whatever I write to the URL field on a new tab, if I don't wait for a second or so07:21
leafwso I do new tab, I start writing the URl, and gets blanked out ... annoying like hell07:21
robotgeekleafw: lemme try07:21
leafwAdept crashed on me when installing the GNU flash 0.4, although only at refreshing the package list - never crashed before.07:22
robotgeekleafw: are you on breezy?07:22
leafwthen, kmail forgets the "Recently added emails" and I can't find the way to increase the number of email addresses that it can remember07:22
leafwbreezy-ppc07:22
domKompose rox my world!07:22
robotgeekleafw: i don't have that issue on dapper ppc07:22
leafwkde 3.5 by the way07:22
leafwbut that was on 3.4 as well07:23
leafwrobotgeek: is dapper stable enough? I tried to install it on a powermac and it failed to boot.07:23
leafwabout two months ago.07:23
robotgeekleafw: so, i open a new tab and type something in the address bar. it should go away if i don't type anything?07:23
leafwopen new tab, start typing, and the URL field gets blanked out, so you have to start over07:24
leafwif you wait a second or two, it doesn't happen (may be blanking an already blanck URL field)07:24
robotgeekleafw: oh, i have my homepage set to blank, so new tabs might also be opening up blank url's07:24
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leafwmy homepage is set to blank as well07:25
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leafwand also ... Xorg memory usage grows over time, in a week it grows to about 30 % (from a 12% basal)07:25
leafwand it grows to 40% if I open an .avi movie with VLC07:26
leafw(and close the movie)07:26
leafwI am not used to restart my powerbook every week. I usually don't restart it for months.07:26
leafwactually, the Xorg gets fixed with a logout/login, a X server restart07:27
leafwannoying in any case07:27
trappistsounds like a memory leak07:27
leafwand the Xorg still can't open the GLXGears over an ssh -X connection.07:27
leafwthis is a confirmed bug, quite very annoying, and still floating around.07:28
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leafw(no opengl over ssh -X )07:28
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leafwand when is the GCC 4.1 comming up? Can't stand anymore the gcj problem with Gtk_image.c ...07:31
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_mauriciohi there07:32
_mauriciodoes anybody know how to set "testing" releases for apt?07:33
ph8cheers me2win07:34
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me2winnp07:34
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inteliwasprobotgeek: shuld I wait for dragorn or what?07:39
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mihai_who can help me with some regular expressions?07:41
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mihai_i need to know how to write the general specifier *07:44
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mihai_beacause i'm comming from windows where * matches any string07:45
mihai_who can help me with some regular expressions?07:45
jerwarethe therea program for automattic printer detection ?07:45
aseigojerware: the kde print setup dialog in the control panels07:46
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uniqmihai_: explain what you're trying to do.07:48
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mihai_how can i specify the end of the line as a regular expressions ????07:53
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mihai_i have a file g.txt and i want (using grep) to print on the screen all the lines ending with space07:56
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nysosymHi zusammen :)07:57
uniqmihai_: grep ' '$ g.txt07:57
mihai_10x07:57
mihai_empty lines by removing ' ' no?07:57
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mihai_and finally a RE that matches lines with spaces or nothing07:58
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uniqmihai_: '^$'  lines starting with new line.07:59
nysosymis it normal, that open office will be removed after update?07:59
FlatAlexhas anybody installed OOo 2.02? i have trouble finding the mail merge o_O08:00
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slow-motionre08:03
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uniqmihai_: you can use [[:space:] ]  to match any space, tabs etc.08:05
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uniqmihai_: like '[[:space:] ] $' to match lines ending with any space.08:07
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flatonehu08:08
mihai_a RE that matches lines with spaces or nothing? grep ___ ?08:10
mihai_i mean how can i express that OR08:11
uniq'[[:space:] ] \|^$'08:11
uniqwith \|08:11
mihai_beacause in my oppinion by using ^' '$ , grep will seek for lines with one space...08:11
uniq| is or08:11
mihai_ony one |08:11
mihai_?08:11
uniqyes.08:12
mihai_good08:12
mihai_10x08:12
uniqthe \ is there to tell grep it's a command. not a character to match.08:12
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Datsunzosohey guys08:52
robotgeekhey Datsunzoso08:54
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me2winman08:57
Datsunzosoi need help wth k3b anyone wanna lend  a hand08:57
me2wingnome has some nice icon artists in gnome-look.org08:58
me2winDatsunzoso, whatcha need08:58
me2winoh HEY Datsunzoso lol08:58
me2winhows it workin out for ya so far?08:58
Datsunzosokinda good08:58
Datsunzosonot too bad08:58
Datsunzosojust some probs here and there but theyve been sorted out08:58
me2winnice08:59
Datsunzosonow im tryin to install k3b.... and i get this problem08:59
me2wini can try to help you with k3b, though ive never use it myself :P08:59
Datsunzosowhat do u use?09:00
me2winive never burned a CD in linux to be completely honest09:00
me2winbut k3b is the way to go im sure, EVERYONE uses it :P09:00
Datsunzosooh09:00
Datsunzosowell im trying to install it and its gives me this  crap09:00
Snake__K3B is awesome09:00
Snake__To the level of 900000000000009:00
Datsunzosoit tells me that "There is no group burning"09:00
Datsunzosoim like tryin to install it09:01
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me2winhmm09:01
Snake__Datsunzoso: Get it from the repos09:01
Datsunzosoits on settings and it says "use burning group" and thers a checkbox on the side... than thers a text box and it says burning09:01
domdatsunzoso did you install from source or from package09:01
Datsunzosorepos?09:01
Datsunzosoer i got it from adept09:01
Snake__Datsunzoso: okay, repos09:01
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Datsunzosoi orginally wanted just to get the mp3 burn plugin for it, but than i saw that i could upgrade k3b09:02
Snake__Datsunzoso: hang on, let me boot it up and see where you are09:02
Datsunzosowhich i did09:02
Datsunzosowell im tryin to09:02
Snake__Datsunzoso: what are you trying to burn09:02
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Datsunzosoim not tryin to burn anything just yet, im trying to set it up09:02
Snake__Datsunzoso: well it should be up09:03
Snake__:)09:03
Datsunzosolike i got the upgrade off adept, than i gotta setup09:03
Snake__Datsunzoso: What do you need to set up?09:03
Datsunzosoidk! lol09:03
me2winheh09:03
Snake__Datsunzoso: This aint windows bro, when you download it, its installed, and set up09:03
DatsunzosoK->system->k3bsetup09:03
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Datsunzosothats what it says09:03
Datsunzoso.. before it was just k3b09:03
Snake__Hmm09:03
Datsunzosobut i decided to upgrade it from adept09:04
Datsunzosocause it said "upgradeable"09:04
Snake__Yea09:04
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Snake__alright Datsunzoso im running my configure, ill help ya out09:04
Datsunzosowait..09:04
Datsunzosoi think i got it somehow 1 min09:05
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Snake__Datsunzoso: Lol alright09:05
Datsunzosodamn09:05
Snake__?09:05
Datsunzosotee hee09:05
Datsunzosoi got it09:05
Snake__Woot09:05
Snake__Datsunzoso:  how long you been on linux?09:05
Datsunzosoi think the problem was that it was changing the permissions on who is allowed to burn09:05
Datsunzosoat the checkbox i had to just put in my username or w/e its called09:06
Snake__whatever works09:06
Snake__lol09:06
Datsunzosotrue09:06
Datsunzosothanks for the help though09:06
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Snake__I try :)09:07
Datsunzosoive had kubuntu for about....5 days09:07
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ganymed_hallo09:10
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Snake__welcome ganymed_09:15
_roberto_hola09:15
_roberto_alguen en espaol09:15
robotgeek!es09:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:18
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Evil_Hwhats the command to unzip a bunch of .zip files at once?10:14
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heinkel_111use wildcards?10:17
Stephanoskymi leggete?10:17
Stephanoskyscusate qualcuno mi legge?10:17
heinkel_111<ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:18
robotgeekEvil_H: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i ; done10:19
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Evil_Hthx10:22
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jcarterhello10:24
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jcarteranyone there?10:24
me2winhey10:24
jcartersup10:25
jcarterjust got kubuntu up and running10:25
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jcarternative wireless is nice :)10:25
me2winjcarter, nice, you made the right choice (fuck gnome!)10:25
me2winerrr10:25
me2wini thought i had filters...10:25
me2winlol10:25
jcarterheh10:25
jcartermy volume buttons aren't working though10:26
jcarterthey did in ubuntu10:26
me2winhmm10:26
jcarteranyone have a dell latitude d600?10:26
me2winmight be on of the startup processes10:26
heinkel_111jcarter..yes i have10:26
me2winmatch made in heaven!10:26
jcarterwoohoo10:26
jcarteri'm new to irc10:26
jcarterwhat's with the red text?10:26
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heinkel_111if i type your name in a line you will see it in red10:27
heinkel_111jcarter: see?10:27
me2winjcarter, so that you know somebody is talking directly to you10:27
jcarterheinkel_111: ?10:27
jcarterheinkel_11110:27
DennisPAfter I install the kubuntu-desktop package on Ubuntu, do I need to do any more configuration, or restart the computer?10:28
heinkel_111it just highlights your name when someone speaaaks it10:28
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jcarterohh10:28
jcarterbut i don't see it10:28
jcarterok10:28
rysiek|plhi there10:28
jcarterhi10:28
rysiek|planyone knows how to change the copnsole font?10:28
me2winjcarter, it only turns red when your name shows up in the line10:28
jcartergotcha10:28
me2winrysiek|pl, right click in the console :D10:28
me2winrysiek|pl, or click settings10:29
rysiek|plme2win - great, but I ment console, not Konsole :] 10:29
jcarterso heinkel_111, did you have issues with the volume controls?10:29
me2winrysiek|pl, oh lolz10:29
rysiek|plI am not *that* n00b ;)10:29
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heinkel_111jcarter yes...it is a keyboards upport issue, but i cannot remember how it was solved10:29
robotgeekrysiek|pl: i think it's a kernel option10:29
jcarterheinkel_111, thanks, i'll look on ubuntuforums.org, is that the best place?10:30
heinkel_111had a friend work around it for me10:30
rysiek|plgreat - which one? :) and is there no way of changing it without rebooting? I don't believe that10:30
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jcarterso what happens if i take my friend's advice and type "run keylogger"?10:32
jcartersupposedly norton disconnects everyone10:32
jcarterthough on #kubuntu i doubt it would do much10:32
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me2winlol10:33
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me2windont do it10:33
robotgeekrysiek|pl: grep FONT /boot/config-`uname -r`10:33
me2winit doesnt work on here10:33
me2winand you get banned immediately10:33
freezehow can i install kde on ubuntu?10:33
jcarterkthx :P10:33
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rysiek|plrobotgeek: thx10:33
jjessefreeze: install kubuntu-desktop10:34
freezehow?10:34
rysiek|plsudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop10:34
me2winsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:34
me2winbeat me to it...10:34
jjessegrin10:34
me2win!lart rysiek|pl10:34
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jjesseouch10:35
rysiek|plI was first, you hadn't had a typo10:35
freezeits impossible to found package kubunu-desktop10:35
rysiek|pltry copying that: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:35
rysiek|plbeware of typos10:36
freezethe same thing10:36
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heinkel_111kubuntu not kubunu10:36
me2winprobably have to enable universe/multiverse10:36
freezewhat can i do?10:37
rysiek|pl!universe10:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:37
rysiek|plfreeze: read the above ^^^10:38
rysiek|pld'oh10:38
jcarterhow do i get to keyboard shortcuts?10:38
rysiek|plhuh?10:38
Snake__rysiek|pl: she shouldnt need uni or multi to get kubuntu-desktop10:38
me2winjcarter, uhhhh10:38
me2win!shortcuts10:38
Snake__jcarter: kcontrol, accessiblity, keyboard shortcuts10:38
rysiek|plSnake_: yeah, I think so too10:38
rysiek|plafter giving it a second thought, that is10:39
Snake__rysiek|pl: He* rather10:39
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Snake__jcarter: see it?10:39
jerwarefellaz10:39
jcarterno10:39
jcarterwhat's kcontrol?10:39
Snake__jcarter: press alt+f210:39
jcarteri've never used KDE10:39
jerwarecan someone help me with my syntax for the ifconfig utility   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4sawV234.html10:39
Snake__jcarter: then type kcontrol, and run it10:39
jcartergotcha10:39
me2winjerware, sure lets see10:39
robotgeekjcarter: K-Menu- > System Settings -> Regiional and Accessibility10:40
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Snake__robotgeek: I dont have system settings in my kmenu >.<10:40
robotgeekjerware: you have default splet wrong10:40
jcartergot it10:40
jcarterthanks10:40
me2windefualt10:40
me2winhehe10:40
jerwareaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!10:40
jerwarethanx fellaz10:40
jerwaredarrrr10:40
jerwarehaha10:40
me2win!lart jerware10:41
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robotgeekSnake__: hmm, okies. kcontrol then10:41
rysiek|plthose damn typos :)10:41
jerwarehehe!10:41
Snake__robotgeek: thats weird10:41
Snake__lol10:41
rysiek|pl!lart me2win10:41
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jerwareshould  i use the gw keyword ?10:41
robotgeek!coc10:41
ubotufrom memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:41
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me2winlol10:41
rysiek|plme2win: are you having a problem with !lart, or what? :)10:41
me2winlol10:41
rysiek|plhmmm... tempting...10:41
rysiek|plah, what the hell! :] 10:42
rysiek|pl!lart ubotu10:42
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robotgeeklol10:42
Snake__LOL10:42
me2winLOL10:42
rysiek|plROFLMAO10:42
Snake__OWNED10:42
rysiek|plyep, agreed :)10:42
jerwarealright!!  no i can proceed10:42
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me2winlolz10:42
jcarterwhat's the shortcut for cycle through tabs10:43
jcarterit's ctrl+tab usually10:43
jcarterbut now it's just for oh-so-useless desktop switching10:43
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nukyhey, if i have ubuntu installed already, and it's a fresh installation, is there a way for me to convert it to a kubuntu installation? is it just the kubuntu-desktop that i have to install?10:44
Blissexjcarter: it can be also 'CTRL-] ' (e.g. Konversation) or SHIFT-=> (e.g. Konsole).10:44
rysiek|plyep10:44
rysiek|plnuky: only the kubuntu-desktop10:44
rysiek|plthat's all you need... or at least the ubuntu guys spread such gossip10:45
rysiek|pl(I never liked them GNOME'aniacs anywayz ;) )10:45
jcarterblissex: ctrl]  doesn't work for me right now10:45
Snake__rysiek|pl: tiyr right ;)10:45
Snake__err10:45
Snake__your*10:45
nukyrysiek|pl: thanks :)10:45
rysiek|pla nice one, I must say, Snake__ :)10:46
rysiek|plnuky, nop :)10:46
Blissexjcarter: you can easily make it work -- KDE programs  usually have a nice 'Setting:Configure Shortcuts' facility10:46
Snake__jcarter: in konsole, use Shift+Left (or Right)10:46
rysiek|plWHOA! that's a nice one!10:46
rysiek|pldodn't know that :)10:46
matchthisthese need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com10:47
jcarteri see, thanks guys10:47
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Snake|FoodIll be back10:48
me2winlol10:48
me2winsnake food10:48
nukywhen you're installing kubuntu, is it ok to make just the root a primary partition and the others (home, swap and var) as logical?10:57
avusure10:57
trappistI like to make /opt its own partition too10:58
avukubuntu does not use /opt10:58
trappistand put statically compiled stuff, and windows stuff for wine, there, to keep between distros/versions10:58
Blissextrappist: the less partitions the better usually, with the reservation that '/' should be in its own partition.10:58
trappistavu: afaik no part of the distro actually does, but a lot of 3rd party packages do10:59
trappistBlissex: depends on your goal10:59
Blissextrappist: but what you describe is not a bad idea after all.10:59
Blissextrappist: but a bit elaborate a scheme for newbies...10:59
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avutrappist: hm, ok, I always use /usr/local for such stuff10:59
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trappistavu: yeah but /usr/local is where stuff you compile yourself goes, that may not be binary-compatible with the next distro/release you install11:00
avutrappist: ah, well, I don't change distros that often so that problem hasn't really hit me yet. Still, you are right, of course.11:00
trappistso I put my fonts, wine stuff, vmware stuff and games like ut2004 and quake4 in /opt and never worry about installing them again11:01
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trappistavu: even without changing distros you're probably going to lose binary compatibility with release upgrades11:01
trappiste.g. when dapper comes out11:01
trappistnext month :)11:01
avutrappist: never happend to me. but then I don't install oss software without checkinstall, so in fact my /usr/local looks pretty much like your /opt I guess11:02
nukythanks.. and 5gb for root is ok? i read on a forum suggesting 10gb but that seems excessive.. i'm not sure though cos my current installation is on a tiny hdd11:02
avutrappist: I am already running dapper ;)11:02
matchthisthese need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com11:02
avutrappist: checkinstall + --prefix=/usr that is11:02
robotgeekmatchthis: use kubuntu-offtopic please11:03
trappistrobotgeek: he's been doing that on all the channels for a while.  do you have a @ to clobber him with?11:04
robotgeektrappist: i have a @ , yes. if he does it again11:04
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trappisthe's got a zillion different nicks, all Cam@209.91.114.23611:05
robotgeektrappist: my irssi will take care of that :)11:06
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avu:)11:07
robotgeektrappist: ^^11:07
trappistrobotgeek: k-lined :)11:07
trappistseveas and I snitched in ##bookmark11:08
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kroisistrying to install kubuntu on a virginal ubunto, what's the correct apt-get syntax from command line?11:12
kroisisubuntu*11:12
Snake__apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:12
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rysiek|plnope, it's: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)11:13
Snake__rysiek|pl: I assumed he would know to do sudo...11:13
kroisisSnake__, assuming that must be done from a sudo, I'm getting a "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" error...any ideas?11:14
rysiek|plI learned not to make any assuptions - if he would know, he would know why and when *not* to use sudo :)11:14
kroisisSnake__,  I appreciate the help11:14
rysiek|plkroisis: sudo apt-get update11:15
kroisisrysiek|pl, w/o it one cannot get a lock, I tried the initial approach first prior to the sudo11:15
rysiek|pland then: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:15
kroisisrysiek|pl, thanks11:15
rysiek|plkroisis: yep, correct, that's why I always prefer to include sudo in the command11:15
rysiek|plwhen I'm giving advice on #kubuntu11:16
kroisisstill getting the "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop11:17
kroisis" error....11:17
robotgeekkroisis: do you have a internet repository?11:17
robotgeekif you only have cdrom line, that will not work11:18
ryanakcahow do you access your bios? I've tried hitting delete at boot up to no avail...11:18
kroisisrobotgeek, unsure what you mean by respository, mut one be assigned in a configuration?11:18
me2winryanakca, sometimes its F211:18
kroisisryanakca, depends on the mother board11:18
robotgeekubotu: tell kroisis about repos11:18
kroisisryanakca, do you know the type of motherboard?11:19
ryanakcakroisis: aye... its IBM, with a P3... would that help?11:19
ryanakcaI can go check if its written on it...11:19
ryanakcawhere would it be written?11:19
kroisisryanakca, actual IBM? or do you mean 'pc'11:20
ryanakcawhen I boot up, it gives me a screen saying IBM (in blue)11:20
kroisisryanakca, what model IBM?11:20
ryanakcaumm.. just a sec, I'll go check...11:20
kroisisnot motherboard, what model machine....11:20
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ryanakcakroisis: IBM Netvidia11:21
ryanakcaKroisis Nvidia I mean11:22
kroisisryanakca, http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic20188.html11:22
kroisischeck the IBM section below on it11:23
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Robert17Evening all11:23
me2winyo11:23
Robert17might be trying Kubuntu on my laptop soon, thought I'd see who was about on IRC :)11:24
Robert17moving from Windows XP11:25
me2winheh11:28
me2winnice11:28
me2winthere are alot more people on ubuntu11:28
me2winbut11:28
Snake__Kubuntu is better.11:28
Snake__:P11:28
me2winsome people are on 4 diff kubuntu/ubuntu chats11:28
me2winbut yeah, i agree with Snake__ Kubuntu is MUCH better :P11:28
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Robert17I've used the LiveCD as a tester11:29
HymnToLifeUbuntu/Kubuntu is the same damn thing...11:29
Robert17so I'm now downloading thr DVD11:29
rysiek|plok, guys, gotta go11:29
rysiek|plcu all11:29
Robert17byee11:29
Robert17I'm sure I'll have lots of Qs soon :p11:29
kroisisryanakca, that get you in?11:29
kroisisHymnToLife, maybe, but the ubuntu doesn't have an option to change to kde11:30
me2winRobert17, cya11:30
Snake__HymnToLife: Nut uh11:30
Robert17laters11:30
HymnToLifekroisis> and what the hell is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?11:30
Marrs;)11:31
Snake__HymnToLife: Kubuntu has Linus backed KDE! :P11:31
HymnToLifeI know (I'm a KDE user too), but I still think the difference Ubuntu/Kubuntu is totally artificial11:32
me2winSnake__, dont say that too loud, i got bant for pasting that quote lolz11:32
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Snake__lol me2win11:32
me2wini pasted it in ubuntu-offtopic and got banned from that one and ubuntu both lol11:33
Snake__LOL11:33
Snake__me2win: they are gnome users11:33
me2winfor "trolling"11:33
Snake__go figure11:33
me2winyeh11:33
me2wini was like wtf im not trolling11:33
me2wini just pasted a quote11:33
me2wini didnt even paste the quote11:33
Snake__Did you fight the ban?11:33
me2wini pasted the URL to the quote11:33
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Snake__ /get unbanned?11:33
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Snake__OH NO11:34
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Snake__Im sorry!11:34
Snake__lol11:34
me2winlol11:34
HymnToLifeme2win> and what was the use of posting it ?11:34
me2winHymnToLife, i pasted it to mindspin11:34
HymnToLifeapart from starting another holy flamewar ?11:34
me2wini wasnt trying to start a war11:34
me2wini was talking with mindspin about kde and gnome11:34
me2wina few hours before11:34
me2winso i found it and i pasted it to him11:34
HymnToLifewell, guess you'd better have used PMs ;)11:34
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me2winHymnToLife, i didnt think i was gonna get banned for trolling for pasting a url11:35
HymnToLifeyeah really it's weird11:35
HymnToLifeI bet you anything it was Seveas11:35
Snake__Yep11:35
me2winLOL11:36
Snake__lol11:36
me2winit WAS11:36
Snake__HAHA11:36
me2winhaha11:36
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me2winthats very funny how you guessed that11:36
HymnToLifewell11:37
me2winbut i got nothing against him either way, i think he lifted the ban11:37
me2wincuz i can get in/out now of those chans11:37
Snake__me2win: bans are ususally lifted after 2 hours usually11:37
me2winSnake__, oh11:37
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brandoncan anyone help me with my sound?11:39
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verdeni'm running the 64bit version and was wondering if i can install java?11:39
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brandoncan anyone help me with my sound? please?11:39
me2winbrandon, whats up11:40
Blissexverden: you can.11:40
robotgeekverden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD6411:40
verdenthanx11:40
Snake__robotgeek: and his links... lol11:41
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brandonhey, i dont get any sound. i have a sound blaster live! card and when i go to see what my setting are on it says soundblaster (unknown) i have tryed everything i know so far.11:41
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me2winhhmm11:41
HymnToLifehmm11:42
HymnToLife!sound11:42
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:42
HymnToLifetried this ?11:42
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brandonone sec11:42
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buzinutuup an ubunutu tree first time11:46
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buzinutumamee me like muchos exus my French11:47
me2win?11:47
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hara__lo11:49
hara__is there a channel for kubuntu gamers?11:49
hara__or may i just ask my game related questions here?11:49
me2winis it cedega related?11:50
hara__no, native linux, quake 311:50
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brandonlol nothing works!!! lol any suggestions?11:51
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dev_nullI have had kubuntu installed for about a month and I keep having problems with my sound card.  It is a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97.  The problem is that i can be listening to music and suddenly the sound will pop and cut out.  A reboot will fix the problem but is there a way I can restart the sound driver without a reboot?11:53
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brandonlol your lucky i cant even get sound to work11:53
robotgeekdev_null: alt + f2, kcontrol , Sound , Restart sound server11:54
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dev_nullrobotgeek: I am in kcontroil but I don't see a way to restart the sound system in there.  I am in the sound tree11:56
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robotgeekdev_null: click on test sound11:57
dev_nulli did11:57
dev_nullno change11:57
robotgeekhmm, that should restart your sound server11:58
robotgeekdev_null: sorry, i am not sure about sound issues11:58
dev_nullrobotgeek: thanks for trying to help, I'll just reboot to get my sound11:58
brandonhahahahhaha!!!! success!!! sound works!!!11:59
dev_nullwhich I know is not a good long term solution11:59
robotgeekdev_null: you should look for bugs, and file one11:59
dev_nullbrandon: what did you do?11:59
dev_nullrobotgeek: i am not sure if it is a bug or something I have done wrong (which is more probablable)11:59
brandonwhen to the site you ppl told me and did it lol i messed up when i did it but then re did the directions and now it works!!12:00
robotgeekdev_null: hmm, look for bugs nonetheless12:00
brandonthanx!!!12:00
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dev_nullrobotgeek: i'll report it12:00
dev_nullthanks12:00
conndoes anyone here have intel extreme graphics? I'm looking for feedback on whether or not the DRI snapshots work properly12:00
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angasule!wma12:03
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:03
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