[12:04] <stardust> anyone know of any good programs to edit .swf flash files?
[12:04] <stardust> I tried f4l flash4linux but it doesn't seem to be able to do as i would like
[12:05] <Txukie> use macromedia flash under wine
[12:05] <stardust> any open source alternatives?
[12:05] <Txukie> f4l is discontinued i think
[12:05] <stardust> I don't want to shell out hundreds of dollars for macromedia just to run it under wine
[12:05] <Txukie> .......well a possibility is openlaszlo but its not quite the same
[12:05] <Txukie> check it out it might be good for you
[12:06] <stardust> ah ok, thanks
[12:08] <Txukie> be
[12:08] <Txukie> bye
[12:09] <celerate> heh, anyone know why my router and laptop can see each other, but my laptop can't get an IP address?
[12:10] <celerate> oh, nevermind it's in the wiki
[12:10] <luite> what do you mean by 'see each other' ? the link lights of your ethernet connection are on?
[12:10] <luite> ah ok
[12:11] <celerate> I need to configure DHCP to work with wpa_supplicant
[12:11] <celerate> or vice versa
[12:11] <luite> ah, wlan :)
[12:12] <celerate> yeah, so far it's taken me hours to get this far
[12:40] <pablet> anyone has upgraded to dapper?? can anyone tell me how to enable networking during boot again?
[12:40] <Armagguedes> hello
[12:41] <farous> did not update yet but this is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[12:41] <farous> put auto infront of the device you want to auto enable
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?
[12:42] <pablet> thanks
[12:42] <farous> :)
[12:43] <pablet> but....i have enabled  "networking" in runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5 of "system services", these ones appeared disabled at boot at this config section
[12:43] <pablet> is this correct??
[12:44] <pablet> and resolvconf is not enabled by default at boot, neither
[12:44] <farous> hmm i do not know. Dapper is new to me and forgot what each runlevel do. i always look it up at debian docs
[12:44] <pablet> ok
[12:44] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if novell is truly going forward with that linux app-porting business?
[12:44] <pablet> you did so and everyting worked, no?
[12:44] <Armagguedes> especially autocad?
[12:45] <farous> pablet: dapper broke my wireless so i took it out of my test machine. steel running breezy here till dapper is stable
[12:46] <farous> hate those spell errors still
[12:47] <pablet> one thing else.....I had a ndiswrapper wireless (broadcom or dell if you prefer) that worked fine with breezy, now when I scan for available networks it tells me : no network discovered
[12:48] <Armagguedes> you're lucky pablet , i cant even get my wificard/eth1 to stay enabled
[12:48] <ufo> Armagguedes, do you have broadcom chipset?
[12:49] <Armagguedes> nah
[12:49] <pablet> the thing i dont understand is that i have found errors that were solved in breezy
[12:49] <Armagguedes> the superpopular intel/pro 2200bg
[12:49] <pablet> i have a broadcom wireless
[12:49] <farous> Armagguedes: so it is not only me
[12:49] <ufo> pablet, do you use dapper?
[12:49] <farous> same problem here on my second laptop
[12:49] <pablet> yes
[12:49] <pablet> but installed hours ago
[12:49] <farous> it is hell with firmware error every now and then
[12:50] <pablet> sorry, UPGRADED hours ago
[12:50] <ufo> pablet, bcm43xx?
[12:50] <pablet> but I think card is not working properly because it cannot detect any network
[12:51] <pablet> i dont know, because the name i have seen is "dell pro wireless 1370"
[12:51] <pablet> I know its a broadcom, but i never tried to find out the exact model
[12:52] <ufo> pablet, do you need help with that? you should use ndiswrapper and blaclist the bcm43xx... and see with lshw what chipset are?
[12:52] <pablet> im going to look for the chipset, one moment
[12:53] <pablet> -->  bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present
[12:53] <pablet> it tells me everything is ok
[12:53] <ufo> you have the ndiswrappe allready installed?
[12:53] <pablet> but scanning doesnt produce any result
[12:54] <pablet> i installed it when it was breezy
[12:54] <ufo> ok... add this to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    blacklist bcm43xx
[12:54] <pablet> it should have been upgraded to dapper correctly....
[12:54] <pablet> what does this do?
[12:55] <ufo> there is an new kernel code for bcm43xx and it does not have the firmware...
[12:55] <ufo> the blacklisting is blocking the kernel driver to load
[12:55] <pablet> but my network is not bcm43xx
[12:56] <pablet> my wireless card, sorry
[12:56] <ufo> are you sure... you are using same ndiswrapper driver
[12:57] <pablet> i have not changed anything from breezy to dapper (refering to ndiswrapper config)
[12:57] <Armagguedes> you might want to take a luuk at this: http://diabolikal.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.75
[12:57] <ufo> pablet, its the new kernel thing trust me
[12:57] <pablet> can you explain me it more concretely?
[12:58] <pablet> (sorry if i don't understand correctly, my english is a bit poor)
[12:59] <ufo> its ok... there is compiled in the kernel broadcom patch and if you dont have the firmware installed you cant use ndiswrapper... it came with the new kernel  source
[12:59] <Armagguedes> is an howto
[12:59] <ufo> you need to use tool to cut the firmware from bcmw5.sys and it did not work for me... and i had to use the ndiswrapper...
[01:00] <Armagguedes> Getting Wireless to Work in Kubuntu
[01:00] <Armagguedes> wtf i lost cut&paste?
[01:00] <ufo> they cant provide the firmware because its not gpl
[01:00] <ufo> the tool is fwcutter
[01:00] <pablet> thanks armagguedes im gonna read it
[01:00] <nuky> is there a way to set all your folders to open automatically in krusader? i tried right clicking -> open with -> then choose krusader and check the box telling it to do that always.. but that doesn't work.. when i click on the folder it doesn't do anything now..
[01:01] <pablet> and you say that with this tool I can get wireless support for broadcom without using ndiswrapper?
[01:01] <Armagguedes> from what i've seen over the past years, linux has always had a cancer
[01:01] <Armagguedes> before it used to be audio
[01:01] <Armagguedes> now it seems to be wifi
[01:01] <ufo> pablet, yes http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[01:02] <ufo> but i had no luck for cutting the firmware
[01:02] <Armagguedes> whats next? i hope its not the new fancy-ass hybrid harddrives
[01:02] <ufo> maybe my driver was too old to cut from
[01:02] <pablet> ok thanks ufo
[01:03] <pablet> im going to read it
[01:03] <ufo> one more thing to use with ndiswrapper
[01:03] <pablet> tell me
[01:05] <pablet> but my broadcom is not 43xx
[01:05] <ufo> pablet, here is my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9876
[01:05] <pablet> ok thanks
[01:06] <pablet> but, what do you want me to take from this file?
[01:07] <ufo> oh... you should change the wlan0 to eth1 in aliasing
[01:07] <pablet> it looks like my file (i have added the "auto" before eth0, hope this works next boot)
[01:07] <pablet> my kubuntu names wlan0 as eth2
[01:08] <ufo> ok... you could try now
[01:08] <Armagguedes> will Drake come with some sort of WPA support pre-installed?
[01:09] <Armagguedes> so that i can boot from the install process into my wifi network?
[01:10] <ufo> pablet, the wlan0 alias for ndiswrapper is in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper and that one i changed for eth1 you could set what you like
[01:11] <ufo> or need
[01:11] <pablet> one more thing....when I mount, for example, a pendrive, the dialog "mounting" gets frozen (but the pendrive is mounted correctly)....it happened on breezy and was succesfully corrected.....why did this error come back?
[01:11] <pablet> ok thanks
[01:12] <pablet> now you suggest me to change wlan0 to the value the system has gave to the card, in this case, eth2
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?
[01:13] <ufo> pablet, yes
[01:13] <pablet> well, its probably the error, because it was set to wlan0
[01:13] <pablet> thanks ufo
[01:13] <pablet> really
[01:13] <pablet> hope it works on next reboot ;D
[01:13] <ufo> ok :)
[01:14] <pablet> one more thing
[01:14] <ufo> yes
[01:14] <pablet> please read the error i have noticed in kde when mounting a pendrive or other device
[01:14] <pablet> read a few lines above
[01:15] <Armagguedes> will Drake come with some sort of WPA support pre-installed? because my wifi is wpa-only and i cant set the wlan card as default, since i cant connect
[01:15] <keith> Is it best to have a WAP high or low, as in on the floor or on a high shelf?
[01:15] <ufo> it might be something with the new kernel... can really tell you...
[01:15] <ufo> cant
[01:16] <Armagguedes> keith it might depend on the building's construction actually
[01:16] <Armagguedes> ...ii think
[01:16] <pablet> i thought this too, and i haven't got time to see if its a kernel problem
[01:16] <keith> its just a normal bedroom =)
[01:16] <ufo> keith, it does not matter but there is not so much things upper like tv or something
[01:16] <ufo> or bed
[01:17] <keith> oh ok, sometimes i cant hit my wap, no matter how close to it i am, but if its up or down sometimes i can and i cant pinpoint which location is best, i think it mght be failing tho, its old
[01:17] <keith> thanks for hte info tho =)
[01:17] <keith> if you could recommend a cheap wireless wap id love you :P
[01:17] <Armagguedes> Cat6 rocks
[01:17] <pablet> another thing is that I cannot see an info meta tag in properties of windows partition, for example, telling me the free spce (but in pendrive i can see the meta info tag)
[01:17] <keith> thats kubuntu compaitble, ive noticed inksys and belkin arent very compatible
[01:17] <ufo> and there is in most of them option to raise the transmit level
[01:18] <Armagguedes> linksys isnt compatible? oh crap
[01:18] <keith> well from what i see at school it isnt, dunno if that was really the problem
[01:18] <pablet> ufo, thanks
[01:18] <ufo> np
[01:18] <keith> but the only waps i was able to connect to have been netgear
[01:18] <pablet> im going to see if all these thing work
[01:18] <pablet> im back in a minute
[01:19] <pablet> just rebooting
[01:19] <pablet> bye
[01:19] <pablet> see you now
[01:20] <keith> wow, off toic, but ifound this on the netgear site http://tools.netgear.com/skype/
[01:21] <ufo> keith, thats interesting, does it need an computer to work?
[01:22] <ufo> where can i get one of those
[01:22] <keith> no, it doesnt need a computer
[01:22] <keith> from what i see anyway
[01:23] <ufo> and its not available yet
[01:23] <keith> oh
[01:23] <keith> looks nice though
[01:24] <ufo> yes and it does not need computer to work!!
[01:26] <arafat> keith:  thanks for that great link! that thing is awesome!
[01:27] <keith> np :D
[01:43] <m_tadeu> hello everyone....i'm trying to connect a usb IR controler, but i don't seem to be able to do it
[01:47] <ufo> m_tadeu, who made the controller?
[01:48] <m_tadeu> ufo: made by conceptronic
[01:50] <ufo> there are millions of sites on google but i dont understand the language...  google --> conceptronics usb ir linux
[01:51] <ufo> maybe you do :)
[01:51] <m_tadeu> ufo: i'll give it another shot then :) thnx
[01:53] <m_tadeu> ufo: is there a way to check if it was detected or not?
[01:53] <ufo> dmesg or lshw
[01:54] <ufo> you could disconnect and put it back and see in dmesg
[01:55] <m_tadeu> it was detected in ttyUSB0...shouldn't it be ttyS0?
[01:58] <ufo> no the ttys0 is regular serial port...
[02:02] <pradeepto> aseigo: hello
[02:07] <chx> i have catched a few necessary packets with KSniffer and I can see some headers quite ok but how could i look at the payload?
[02:35] <_0331_USMC> When is the next version supposed to come out?
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does it change between the vmSize and vmRss for the memory consuming in Kde system Guard?
[02:51] <patrix> google it? ;)
[02:51] <patrix> The 'VmSize' and 'VmRSS' lines are the most important. VmSize is the total amount of memory required by this program, and VmRSS is the "Resident Set Size" (the amount actually in memory right now). In many cases, some of this memory can be swapped out to disk so your program can actually be "bigger" than the physical memory of the machine and still not have any problems.
[02:52] <patrix> hi Tallia1Kubuntu btw ;)
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi
[02:52] <patrix> how's the kubuntu going these days?
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfectly :)
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> as ever :)
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if i unable the swap partiton, do i lose the VmRSS ability?
[02:53] <patrix> awesome
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i wrote a little script to maintain firefox singleinstance
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> too
[02:53] <patrix> no clue
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> clue?
[02:54] <patrix> I have no idea about your question concerning swap and vmrss...
[02:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to make the same thing with conqueror?
[02:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have only 1 instance and use tabs instead?
[02:54] <fatejudger> ?
[02:54] <patrix> you can set up konq to open all new links etc in new tabs
[02:54] <patrix> yes
[02:54] <fatejudger> you mean group all new windows in tabs?
[02:54] <fatejudger> yeah
[02:54] <InteliWasp> is robotgeek back yet?
[02:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix got it
[02:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> even if the links come from other programs?
[02:55] <patrix> "Open as tab in existing konq window when URL is called externally"
[02:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i enable it?
[02:55] <patrix> Settings -> Konqueror settigs -> web behaviour -> Tabbed browsing -> advanced options
[02:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nono wait
[02:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not web
[02:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use konqueror only for browsing the computer
[02:56] <patrix> yes
[02:56] <patrix> it's all the same
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me check it out
[02:56] <patrix> I thought that was the default behaviour in Kubuntu
[02:56] <patrix> I was annoyed by it, was browsing the web, wanted to open my home dir and it opened a new tab in my current browser window
[02:56] <patrix> heh
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you use konqueror or firefox?
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't like koqueror web
[02:57] <patrix> I usually use opea
[02:57] <patrix> opera
[02:57] <patrix> been using konqueror for a while, I like it better than firefox but not as muc has opera
[02:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why don't you like firefox?
[02:58] <patrix> cause I like opera better ;)
[02:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think firefox is the only one that works kind of fine with multimedia ecc ecc
[02:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't it?
[02:58] <patrix> nah opera works fine too
[02:58] <patrix> detects all the netscape plugins etc
[02:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you see quicktime, flash java ecc?
[02:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> expecially the first
[02:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> for mp3 straming
[02:59] <patrix> well I havne't installed any plugin lime mplayer-mozilla, but it'd detect it and use it
[02:59] <patrix> anyway it's all a matter of personal choice
[03:00] <patrix> and now I go to bed
[03:00] <patrix> gnight everyone
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gnight
[03:04] <InteliWasp> i guess robotgeek has not returned?
[03:17] <Anpheus> Hello.
[03:18] <Anpheus> Anyone willing to help a linux newbie make his RT2500-based PCI Wireless Card work?
[03:24] <xPatriot83> Hey everyone!
[03:24] <ufo> Anpheus, http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[03:25] <ufo> Anpheus, http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400
[03:26] <Anpheus> Also...
[03:26] <ufo> no i just pointed few sites for you
[03:26] <Anpheus> My desktop is 1600x1200... but it doesn't, well, _feel_ 1600x1200. Is Kubuntu always this enormous?
[03:28] <ufo> do you use tft? you could try antialised fonts
[03:28] <xPatriot83> Hey, is there anything that I need to know before I try to install kubuntu in a multi-boot situation?
[03:28] <Anpheus> Do I use tft? This is a good question.
[03:28] <Anpheus> I don't know.
[03:29] <theholycow> Anpheus: tft == lcd
[03:29] <Anpheus> TFT is an acronym for what, true font tools?
[03:29] <Anpheus> truetype'
[03:29] <ufo> thin film transistor
[03:29] <theholycow> Anpheus: IIRC, it's Thin Film Transistor. It means you have an LCD, not a CRT.
[03:30] <Anpheus> Ah, no, I have a CRT.
[03:30] <theholycow> Can you describe your feel of not-1600x1200?
[03:30] <Anpheus> It's just, everything, every font, every window, seems enormous.
[03:30] <theholycow> You're probably not in 1600x1200.
[03:30] <Anpheus> I am in 1600x1200.
[03:30] <Anpheus> At 86Hz, right now.
[03:31] <theholycow> Hmm...I'm running kubuntu, default install, and everything looks right for my resolution
[03:31] <ufo> get the windows tahoma font for desktop and it should look like windows
[03:32] <theholycow> unfr0tunately, I can't seem to get 1280x1024 out of my kubuntu.
[03:32] <Anpheus> I don't want it to look like windows, I just want some of this excess shrunken a bit. The font size for window titles, text in windows, etc, the default is just too large.
[03:32] <Syco54645> hi i was wondering what the default theme was in kubuntu for kde
[03:33] <theholycow> so I'm stuck at 1024. I edited xorg.conf and...umm...haven't exited X since then.
[03:33] <theholycow> Too bad X won't re-read xorg.conf when I hit "ctrl alt +"
[03:36] <Snake__> !lart admrl
[03:36] <Snake__> There we go
[03:37] <theholycow> anybody here have any experience with gambas?
[03:38] <Anpheus> This is going to sound funny, as in "ha ha it's a newbie" funny, but I would anticipate that saving to the desktop would make something apparent on the desktop. Is there some way to enable that functionality or do I have to look through my directories to find everything I save 'to the desktop'?
[03:38] <admrl> Snake__ haha
[03:38] <Snake__> admrl: didnt work in amarok, so ill do it here :)
[03:38] <Anpheus> Or, maybe I just didn't save it to  the desktop and clicked too quickly! Ha ha... I'm a newbie.
[03:38] <xPatriot83> Anpheus: LOL... Welcome to the club. :-)
[03:39] <admrl> ya im sure it would be hard to convince ubotu to go to #amarok
[03:39] <theholycow> Anpheus: I just tried saving something to desktop, it showed right up on the desktop.
[03:40] <Anpheus> Yeah, read my second message...
[03:40] <Anpheus> Anyways.
[03:40] <Anpheus> I went to the rt2500 page, I've got this archive now, and... I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it.
[03:40] <Anpheus> I don't see a readme in the archive
[03:41] <Anpheus> There's a FAQ that provides some info but nothing on installation of the drivers.
[03:46] <Anpheus> Wireless still not working...
[03:47] <theholycow> Argh...I gave up on wireless a long time ago. I just use bridges, like wireless "gaming" adapters, or Belkin routers that will act as bridges
[03:47] <duckdown> Hey all. I'm trying to ./configure kvirc, because the one aptitude is so bloody old.. But it's telling me it can't find the 'qt header files' (and possibly indicate where they are manually).. Can someone tell me where these are located?
[03:47] <ufo> Anpheus, extract the package somewhere
[03:48] <ufo> go to that folder and sudo make
[03:49] <ufo> duckdown, you can search the headers apt-cache search qt headers
[03:49] <ufo> or apt-get install libqt3-headers
[03:49] <duckdown> hmm, is there such a package? let me try thanks
[03:50] <Anpheus> Yeah there's a lot of errors.
[03:50] <Anpheus> ufo, Lots of errors.
[03:50] <ufo> Anpheus, apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <Anpheus> I did this.
[03:53] <Anpheus> There are a lot of compile errors.
[03:54] <duckdown> ufo great its configuring now, thanks man
[03:55] <Anpheus> Ufo, there are... well, errors a plenty.
[03:57] <Anpheus> I mean, this looks like it's not using the right compiler. The wiki suggests using GCC 3.4, and there are far too many errors for this to be a minor issue or corruption in the extracted data. I'm guessing make is using GCC 4.0 and I should somehow force it to use 3.4?
[03:57] <neoncode> Does the latest version of wine run the windows version of firefox well?
[03:57] <ufo> Anpheus, pastebin the error
[03:58] <ufo> Anpheus, apt-get install linux-source linux-headers
[04:00] <ufo> !ati
[04:00] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:01] <ufo> Anpheus, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[04:02] <Anpheus> ufo, this instruction did not work: apt-get install linux-source linux-headers
[04:02] <ufo> Anpheus, apt-get install linux-source
[04:02] <duckdown> i think its linux-source-`uname -r`
[04:02] <ufo> yes use that ^
[04:02] <duckdown> same with headers
[04:02] <duckdown> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:03] <ufo> brb
[04:03] <Anpheus> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-9-386
[04:04] <duckdown> type
[04:04] <duckdown> apt-cache search linux-source
[04:04] <duckdown> do you have any results?
[04:05] <Anpheus> Yes.
[04:06] <duckdown> do a apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:07] <pc22> pls help: tried audacity:  it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. i can still pay music tho
[04:07] <Anpheus> It says it is already updated.
[04:07] <duckdown> what are you trying to do?
[04:07] <duckdown> and pastebin the errors
[04:07] <duckdown> www.pastebin.ca
[04:07] <Anpheus> Duckdown, I'm trying to install the linux drivers.
[04:08] <Anpheus> for rt2500
[04:08] <duckdown> all you should need is the linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:08] <duckdown> i need an external Atheros driver
[04:08] <duckdown> thats all it needs is the headers
[04:08] <Anpheus> Ufo was helping me, this is what he was following, I believe:
[04:08] <Anpheus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig
[04:08] <duckdown> Anpheus: www.pastebin.ca
[04:09] <ufo> Anpheus, yes use that wiki
[04:09] <Anpheus> Instructions were followed up until he asked me to 'make' the drivers...
[04:10] <Anpheus> At which point, the terminal filled up more than entirely with compile errors.
[04:10] <Anpheus> It would be pointless for me to paste the errors, there are FAR too many, and I can't paste them all anyways.
[04:10] <ufo> did you use the dapper or breezy
[04:10] <Anpheus> And they are trivial errors.
[04:10] <Anpheus> Breezy, AFAIK. 5.10?
[04:10] <Anpheus> I've been waiting for Dapper Drake with hopes that it would fix all of this but I can't wait until April to have Linux.
[04:11] <ufo> did i say to use my sources.list because i use the dapper at the moment
[04:11] <pc22> Anpheus, hello?
[04:11] <Anpheus> pc22, hello.
[04:11] <pc22> can u help?
[04:12] <Anpheus> uhm...
[04:12] <Anpheus> I don't think I'm qualified to help anyone.
[04:12] <pc22> anyone?
[04:13] <Anpheus> ufo, I tried following the WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig page, but cannot make the driver.
[04:13] <ufo> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:14] <ufo> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[04:14] <Anpheus> Totally did those both dude.
[04:14] <ufo> ok we need the error?
[04:14] <Anpheus> I'm building Rautil right now, since that actually seems to work.
[04:14] <Anpheus> Just a sec.
[04:16] <ufo> Anpheus, you dont need the rautil or raconfig
[04:16] <ufo> you can install the module and use kde network config
[04:17] <ufo> and i was thinking i got rid of the cables with my laptop but it seems to be worse than with desktop :D headset and mouse and power cable
[04:18] <MotorCityMadMan2> help needed: How do i edit the menu.lst in the grub folder ?
[04:19] <Kyral> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:19] <Anpheus> ufo, I've done both of those.
[04:19] <Anpheus> and I tried to make it again
[04:19] <Anpheus> and the first error I get is, yes, related to the linux headers:
[04:19] <ufo> Anpheus, did you get the driver compiled?
[04:20] <Anpheus> no.
[04:20] <Anpheus> More errors.
[04:20] <Anpheus> Lots and lots of pages of errors.
[04:20] <Anpheus> Can you tell me how to increase the buffer/stored text of Konsole so I can copy all of this for you?
[04:22] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: am here now
[04:22] <ufo> Anpheus, take those what you can see
[04:24] <ufo> Anpheus, use this apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[04:24] <Anpheus> Already installed, newest version.
[04:25] <ufo> did the driver compile right?
[04:25] <ufo> with no errors
[04:25] <Anpheus> No, I'm still missing header and source files for linux, I believe.
[04:25] <ufo> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:25] <ufo> what does this say?
[04:26] <Anpheus> build-essential is already the newest version
[04:27] <Anpheus> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version
[04:27] <Anpheus> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded
[04:27] <ufo> no go to the ralink source dir and type make
[04:27] <Anpheus> You mean the Module/ directory?
[04:27] <ufo> or maybe sudo make in the directory
[04:28] <Anpheus> Lots and lots of errors.
[04:28] <ufo> no just in the dir
[04:28] <LjL> "sudo make" <- bad
[04:28] <ufo> might be i don use sudo
[04:28] <Anpheus> Yes, in the Module/ directory? It's either that or utilitsys which is the Raconfig
[04:29] <ufo> Anpheus, what name does the directory have?
[04:29] <Anpheus> Module
[04:29] <ufo> take one back
[04:30] <Anpheus> That's my desktop
[04:30] <Anpheus> I extracted the rt2500-1.0.0.tar.gz there
[04:30] <Anpheus> My desktop contains FAQ, LICENSE, CHANGELOG, and THANKS documents
[04:30] <Anpheus> And the folders CVS (containing 3 documents), Module, and Utilitys
[04:32] <ufo> the directory name should be rt2500*something* and inside that should be module and some other things
[04:32] <Anpheus> I have fixed the problems.
[04:32] <Anpheus> I downloaded a newer version that what was listed on the Sourceforge page I had previously been linked to.
[04:32] <ufo> have extacted only the module dir?
[04:33] <Anpheus> No, I followed the instructions correctly I believe
[04:33] <Anpheus> I just had a bad version.
[04:33] <ufo> you have probably on your desktop the makefile
[04:33] <Anpheus> It compiled with 1.1.0-b3
[04:33] <Anpheus> No, I did not.
[04:33] <ufo> you should extract to directory
[04:33] <ufo> no on your desktop
[04:35] <Anpheus> yes, yes, can we move onward? I have compiled the drivers.
[04:35] <ufo> all did without errors
[04:35] <Anpheus> Yes.
[04:35] <ufo> sudo insmod rt2500.ko
[04:36] <ufo> do you need the wpa for your card?
[04:36] <Anpheus> No.
[04:37] <Anpheus> Uhm
[04:37] <ufo> did the insmod work
[04:37] <Anpheus> No, I get "error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 File exists
[04:37] <Anpheus> rt2500.ko exists in the driectory I am in.
[04:39] <robotgeek> Anpheus: sudo rmmod rt2500
[04:39] <robotgeek> Anpheus: the module comes with breezy, actually
[04:40] <Anpheus> well it doesn't work.
[04:40] <Anpheus> So poo on you!
[04:40] <robotgeek> Anpheus: "doesn't work isn't very helpful"
[04:40] <Anpheus> It never activates.
[04:40] <ufo> did the rmmod rt2500 work
[04:40] <Anpheus> Evidently not.
[04:41] <Anpheus> "Module rt2500 is in use"
[04:41] <robotgeek> Anpheus: sudo ?
[04:41] <ufo> echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2500
[04:41] <Anpheus> Yes, robotgeek.
[04:42] <robotgeek> Anpheus: well, sudo ifconfig rao down && sudo rmmod rt2500
[04:42] <Anpheus> Error inserting rt2500.ko, ufo
[04:43] <ufo> Anpheus, try locate rt2500.ko
[04:43] <Anpheus> Ok.
[04:43] <Anpheus> After following robotgeek's instruction, the insmod worked.
[04:44] <robotgeek> Anpheus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:44] <ufo> ok try now iwconfig
[04:44] <douglas> My desktop is running dapper quite successfully, however, is it ok to upgrade my laptop from breezy, When I did an upgrade on my desktop it broke, and dapper has so many neato cool things.
[04:44] <robotgeek> douglas: oh, so shiny
[04:44] <douglas> Agreed
[04:44] <ufo> yes
[04:44] <robotgeek> but it keep breaking, so you might want to evaluate need vs want :)
[04:45] <douglas> ah
[04:45] <douglas> I do NEED a stable system for school, so I'll stick with my current setup
[04:45] <douglas> When is dapper slated for again?
[04:45] <Anpheus> I'll be back in a bit.
[04:45] <robotgeek> April 20th
[04:45] <ufo> it works great for me
[04:46] <douglas> robotgeek: so long... :(
[04:53] <Snake__> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:53] <Snake__> !lart amarok
[04:54] <Anpheus> k
[04:54] <Anpheus> Uhm, well, ra0 is gone, eth1 is now listed
[04:54] <Anpheus> And I still can't initialize it.
[04:54] <Anpheus> If I enable the interface, it disables itself.
[04:55] <Arcanimus> 'Night guys
[04:55] <robotgeek> Anpheus: don;t use the gui for a while
[04:55] <Anpheus> k.
[04:55] <Anpheus> Not using the gui.
[04:56] <Snake__> robotgeek: Hey do you run amarok 1.4?
[04:56] <robotgeek> yes Snake__
[04:57] <Snake__> robotgeek: You dont happen to have a deb you can ship me do you? my stupid thing wont complie
[04:57] <Snake__> robotgeek: ive been trying since 4 lol (its now 11 pm)
[04:57] <robotgeek> Snake__: nope, i installed straight from the website? was that a older one?
[04:58] <robotgeek> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta1.php
[04:58] <Anpheus> robotgeek... What shall I do?
[04:58] <Snake__> robotgeek: links... lol
[04:58] <robotgeek> Anpheus: hmm, eth1?
[04:59] <Snake__> robotgeek: will this work in breezy?
[04:59] <robotgeek> Snake__: read the announcement ;)
[04:59] <ufo> Anpheus, did you do this echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2500
[04:59] <Snake__> robotgeek: I did, it says dapper
[05:00] <Snake__> Oh
[05:00] <Snake__> :(
[05:00] <Snake__> robotgeek: I got that taglib tho
[05:00] <robotgeek> Snake__: it might work then
[05:00] <Snake__> robotgeek: ill try it
[05:02] <Anpheus> my network settings show Eth1 as a Wireless Network Device, still.
[05:03] <ufo> Anpheus, adn configure /etc/network/interfaces i have these with uncommented the eth1 lines
[05:03] <robotgeek> Anpheus: sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[05:04] <ufo> Anpheus, you can use the eth1 for your wlan i do in dapper
[05:04] <chani> godamn fucking gentoo! and alsa! bah!
[05:04] <Snake__> chani: language bro
[05:05] <chani> oh! sorry! I meant to join a completely different channel
[05:05] <Snake__> :)
[05:05] <chani> I was thinking about kubuntu, I guess, 'cause sound works fine there
[05:05] <Snake__> Lol
[05:06] <Snake__> robotgeek: Bah it depends on a bunch of things i would need to pull from dapper repos :(
[05:06] <Anpheus> Btw, Raconfig doesn't work.
[05:06] <Anpheus> I do "sudo RaConfig2500" and it says it can't find the device driver.
[05:07] <Anpheus> Would I be better off trying a beta of Dapper?
[05:07] <robotgeek> Anpheus: hmm, not really
[05:08] <Anpheus> Do you have _any_ idea why my card, which by all accounts should be an rt2500 based PCI wireless card (linksys WMP54G v4.0) does not work?
[05:09] <Anpheus> I've tried an older Ubuntu x86 LiveCD (I think 5.04,) Ubuntu AMD64 install (5.10), and Kubuntu x86 install (5.10)
[05:09] <Snake__> Anpheus: Wireless is very very very iffy on linux
[05:09] <ufo> Anpheus, look in the loadin section in the wiki for remove the old drivers
[05:11] <_Anpheus> k
[05:11] <_Anpheus> Back.
[05:11] <_Anpheus> accidentally shut down the wrong card.
[05:11] <_Anpheus> er, interface
[05:12] <ufo> did you remove the old driver and use the new one
[05:12] <_Anpheus> Erm?
[05:12] <_Anpheus> I'm trying to install the new one, because supposedly the old driver should have been working.
[05:12] <ufo> sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[05:13] <_Anpheus> I still don't understand why this driver, which according to good ol' wiki.ubuntu.org, does not yet function.
[05:13] <ufo> change the cvs to you directory where the module dir is located
[05:13] <ufo> sudo rm -r /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500 this first
[05:15] <_Anpheus> I did those.
[05:15] <ufo> _Anpheus, do you have an fresh install?
[05:15] <_Anpheus> Yes.
[05:15] <ufo> can you allow ssh to your box?
[05:15] <_Anpheus> ufo, I don't really think it would help.
[05:15] <Anpheus> There.
[05:15] <Anpheus> I mean, what else can you do?
[05:15] <Anpheus> I've followed the wiki instructions.
[05:15] <ufo> ok
[05:15] <Anpheus> anyways, I'm behind a firewall whose settings I can't alter, and on top of that I have a rather poor connection over an external wireless device right now.
[05:16] <ufo> did you try to reboot?
[05:17] <Anpheus> I will reboot.
[05:20] <Anpheus> Now neither eth1 nor ra0 shows up.
[05:20] <ufo> try modprobe rt2500
[05:21] <Anpheus> Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter.
[05:22] <ufo> ?
[05:22] <Anpheus> That's what I got.
[05:22] <Anpheus> I'm going to try installing the drivers again.
[05:22] <robotgeek> Anpheus: hmm, interesting.
[05:23] <Anpheus> evidently I need to download the linux headers again.
[05:23] <ufo> no you dont
[05:23] <robotgeek> Anpheus: maybe the kernel got upgraded or something?
[05:23] <Anpheus> But maybe that's because I upgraded to 2.6.12.10 in the kernel.
[05:23] <ufo> yes thats the reason
[05:23] <Anpheus> Yeah... I was screwing around in the package utility
[05:23] <Anpheus> And I clicked full upgrade.
[05:23] <Anpheus> They really ought to put warning labels on things like that.
[05:24] <Anpheus> I wanted it to mark the packages for a full upgrade, not just install them.
[05:24] <ufo> do the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade before enyhing
[05:25] <Anpheus> see, everything's already done.
[05:25] <Anpheus> well
[05:25] <Anpheus> building and installing drivers again
[05:26] <ufo> yuo dont have to build the driver... just install it
[05:27] <ufo> Anpheus, use the insmod and follow the loading module thing...
[05:30] <Anpheus> mmm
[05:30] <Anpheus> k, trying to enable interface ra0
[05:31] <ufo> try dhclient ra0
[05:31] <NeoChaosX> or ifup ra0
[05:31] <ufo> and then look into network gui
[05:33] <Anpheus> Not enabling.
[05:33] <Anpheus> DHCP isn't returning anything either.
[05:34] <robotgeek> Anpheus: iwconfig ra0 ?
[05:34] <ufo> does the iwconfig see the card
[05:34] <Anpheus> Yes.
[05:34] <robotgeek> Anpheus: did you set your wireless parameters?
[05:34] <Anpheus> And yes.
[05:36] <ufo> does the iwconfig tell you the speed of wlan card ?
[05:36] <robotgeek> Anpheus: open up another terminal and type "tail -f /var/log/syslog". then do "sudo dhclient ra0" in a terminal
[05:36] <Anpheus> iwconfig is reporting 11 Mb/s, but the router and card support up to 54.
[05:36] <ufo> is the essd right?
[05:37] <Anpheus> yes.
[05:37] <ufo> essid
[05:37] <ufo> and the card works on windows?
[05:37] <Anpheus> Yes.
[05:37] <Anpheus> One second please.
[05:38] <robotgeek> Anpheus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9886
[05:39] <robotgeek> Anpheus: download that as wireless.sh, change the parameters, chmod +x wireless.sh , sudo ./wireless.sh
[05:40] <Anpheus> I presume you want me to edit the essid parameters, and the like?
[05:40] <ufo> robotgeek, there is an typo i think sudo ifconfig e$interface down
[05:41] <robotgeek> ufo: hmm yes
[05:41] <ufo> remove the e
[05:41] <robotgeek> Anpheus: ^^ remove the e
[05:41] <ufo> sudo ifconfig $interface down
[05:42] <Anpheus> holy hell
[05:42] <ufo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9888
[05:43] <_Anpheus> Hi.
[05:43] <_Anpheus> I've physically disconnected my other connection
[05:43] <_Anpheus> So, it must be wireless, yes?
[05:44] <ufo> i think so :D
[05:44] <robotgeek> Anpheus: ifconfig
[05:44] <_Anpheus> hey look, ra0 is showing recieved packets.
[05:44] <_Anpheus> spiffy
[05:44] <_Anpheus> and it only took 23,000 outgoing packets to get 70 incoming packets.
[05:45] <ufo> can you get only 1 ip from your isp?
[05:45] <kalenedrael> Heh.
[05:45] <kalenedrael> ufo, in general, unless you pay for another or something.
[05:45] <_Anpheus> Yeah, this is my only IP right now.
[05:45] <_Anpheus> and I'm getting 54Mb/s!
[05:45] <_Anpheus> huzzah!
[05:46] <ufo> great
[05:46] <_Anpheus> Everyone, say huzzah! Say it out loud and you'll feel even better.
[05:47] <robotgeek> _Anpheus: that won't do, where's my beer :)
[05:48] <_Anpheus> Ah I'd buy you a beer but, (a) you're a robot and we don't need to be letting out the magic smoke, and (b) I can't even buy beer yet.
[05:49] <_Anpheus> Sorry, robotgeek.
[05:50] <_Anpheus> I wish I could have my cake and drink beer too.
[05:50] <robotgeek> _Anpheus: heh, it's alrite
[05:50] <InteliWasp> hey robotgeek i see your back
[05:50] <_Anpheus> I'll be going now
[05:50] <robotgeek> yeah, long time ago InteliWasp
[05:50] <_Anpheus> since I don't need you geniuses to fix my computer anymore. Thanks!
[05:50] <InteliWasp> sorry, the tv becond to me...
[05:51] <_Anpheus> And geniuses is not meant sarcastically, I hope to gain the level of knowledge of GNU/Linux that you guys have.
[05:53] <Bicchi> i am going to install codeblocks ide from a .deb file, If i do not like it how do i remove it.
[05:54] <InteliWasp> ok robotgeek, lets get back to me wireless...
[05:54] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: sure
[05:55] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: booting....booting....
[05:55] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: cool
[05:55] <InteliWasp> it likes to hang on the network card
[06:00] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: ctrl + C
[06:00] <InteliWasp> it's up now
[06:00] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: i have the tarball unziped and all, how do i install
[06:00] <InteliWasp> ?
[06:00] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: can you give me the link to the tarball too?
[06:00] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: uhhh, 1 sec
[06:00] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: I'm now using a diffrent comp
[06:00] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: was it the link i gave you in the afternoon
[06:01] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: http://questier.com/howto.html
[06:01] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: ya
[06:05] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: wow, this seems incredibly complicated!
[06:06] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: not to worry ,as long you can post error messages back :)
[06:07] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: did you try the instructions for the mandrake system?
[06:07] <glick> damn kde is soo unstable
[06:07] <robotgeek> glick: kde 3.5.1?
[06:07] <glick> crashes sooo often wheeras ubuntu like NEVER grashed
[06:07] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Proxim&zoek=SHOW
[06:07] <glick> robotgeek, yeah
[06:07] <InteliWasp> it's back up
[06:08] <glick> robotgeek, the default one that comes with kubuntu
[06:09] <robotgeek> glick: hmm, no. you have a older version
[06:09] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: what was the name of your card again. sorry :)
[06:09] <glick> robotgeek, the default version that comes with kubuntu
[06:09] <robotgeek> glick: i meant older than 3.5.1
[06:09] <glick> i installed it earlier and i had to switch back to ubuntu
[06:09] <glick> and now my friend runs it and it crashes on him all the time
[06:10] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: or where is it on the list :)
[06:10] <glick> being written mainly in C++ as apposed to C like gnome, you would think it would have fewer bugs and thus be more stable
[06:10] <robotgeek> glick: unless you file bugs, they are not going to go away
[06:10] <robotgeek> glick: mine doesn't crash on me ;)
[06:11] <glick> robotgeek, its hard to file bugs, when konqueror just crashes
[06:11] <robotgeek> glick: hmm, sorry
[06:11] <glick> its hard to remimber the exact input and button you pressed that made it die
[06:12] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: i have the proxim  8420-WD
[06:13] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: lsmod | grep orinoco
[06:14] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: nothing
[06:15] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: sudo modprobe orinoco_cs
[06:15] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: nothing
[06:15] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: now try the lsmod?
[06:15] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: just gave me a new prompt
[06:16] <InteliWasp> oh
[06:16] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: yay
[06:16] <Khris_dx> I have a stupid question... I partitioned a HD with type 83 on /dev/hdc. I mounted the drive. I then transferred approx. 15gb of data from my home dir to this storage HD. It seem to transfer instantly. My question, is the data really transfered? how can I verify it? is there a chance that the data will be lost if I reboot?
[06:16] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: try "iwconfig"
[06:16] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: i see.. wait i'll but it on paste bin
[06:17] <InteliWasp> there is now a sit0 but no wireless extentions
[06:20] <Anpheus> Hey.
[06:20] <Anpheus> It's me again.
[06:23] <Kyral> Uhh where is the KeyBoard Shortcuts thing for KDE?
[06:23] <Anpheus> So, how do I get Amarok to play an mp3?
[06:23] <Kyral> !mp3
[06:23] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:23] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:24] <Kyral> Should we rename ubotu kubotu in here?
[06:25] <Snake__> Kyral: he runs gnome
[06:25] <Anpheus> Because uh...
[06:25] <Anpheus> I can't play this mp3 I think
[06:25] <Kyral> Snake__: I did too, your point?
[06:25] <Anpheus> and, you know, it's starting to bug me.
[06:25] <Kyral> Anpheus: I play MP3s as well
[06:26] <Snake__> Kr4t05: thats why its ubotu not kubotu :)
[06:26] <Snake__> Kyral: **
[06:26] <Anpheus> I've tried Amarok, and Noatun, and XMMS
[06:26] <Anpheus> and nothing is playing this mp3
[06:26] <Snake__> Anpheus: did you do the mp3 thing
[06:26] <Kyral> Beep should be able to play it
[06:26] <Snake__> !mp3
[06:26] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:26] <Anpheus> I think maybe I'm just stupid.
[06:26] <Snake__> Anpheus: follow the directions in the link.
[06:27] <Anpheus> I actually did do the mp3 one already.
[06:27] <Anpheus> And I can't seem to play this yet.
[06:27] <Snake__> Anpheus: try this: "sudo apt-get install amarok-xine"
[06:27] <Snake__> then go into amarok, and set your engine to "xine" tell me how that goes
[06:27] <Kyral> Heh thats why
[06:27] <Kyral> Good old Xine
[06:28] <Kyral> and where the hell are KeyBoard Shortcuts?
[06:28] <Snake__> Kyral: Kcontrol
[06:28] <Kyral> I'm there
[06:28] <Snake__> ehh one sec
[06:28] <Snake__> lol
[06:28] <Snake__> its like accessibilty
[06:28] <Anpheus> ah thanks
[06:29] <Snake__> Kyral: regional and accessibilty
[06:29] <Kyral> ...who would think to llook there?
[06:29] <Anpheus> I'll treat myself to the antics of Adam Sandler on actually running Kubuntu and using samba among other things...
[06:29] <Snake__> lol
[06:29] <Anpheus> Now just to do those 3 english papers that, you know, I should have been writing instead of screwing with Linux.
[06:30] <robotgeek> Kyral: i'll make sure to document that :)
[06:30] <Snake__> Anpheus: got xine runnin yet? :)
[06:30] <Anpheus> I'm playing Hannakah
[06:30] <robotgeek> Anpheus: amarok-engines-xine
[06:30] <Anpheus> yeah, got it.
[06:30] <Anpheus> hey... ok, new problem
[06:30] <Snake__> robotgeek: amarok-xine ;)
[06:30] <Snake__> Anpheus: whats that
[06:31] <Anpheus> K, I succesfully managed to access a server in my domain
[06:31] <Anpheus> with the correct permissions
[06:31] <Snake__> oh god
[06:31] <Snake__> no my area
[06:31] <Snake__> lol
[06:31] <Snake__> not*
[06:31] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: you here?
[06:31] <Anpheus> Oh, no, I am connected to the server I want to connect to!
[06:31] <InteliWasp> yep
[06:31] <Anpheus> But Amarok won't play an mp3 on it
[06:31] <Anpheus> Is there some way Samba can mount a directory on another server?
[06:31] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: hmm, dmesg
[06:32] <Snake__> Anpheus: oh...hmm i ran into this problem to
[06:32] <Anpheus> Similar to how you map network drives in Windows?
[06:32] <Anpheus> I basically just want to set up smb://zeus/muzak/ (windows: \\zeus\muzak) as a network drive and allow me to play music from it.
[06:32] <Snake__> Anpheus: you said its a network dir right?
[06:33] <Anpheus> Yep.
[06:33] <Snake__> Anpheus: Ill only give you this link if you promise only to do the network folders part.
[06:33] <Anpheus> uhm, ok.
[06:33] <Snake__> its a very outdated guide, and most of the other things will break your system
[06:33] <Anpheus> Ah.
[06:33] <Snake__> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountnetworkfolders
[06:34] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: the last 2 lines show orinoco 0.14alpha2
[06:34] <Anpheus> now
[06:34] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: can you paste them somewhere?
[06:35] <Anpheus> this appears to be for merely shared network drives, will this work if it's shared via Microsoft Active Directory services?
[06:35] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: not easly...
[06:35] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: okay, are they good messages or bad ones ;P
[06:35] <Snake__> Anpheus: ehhhhhhhh notsure
[06:35] <Anpheus> mmm
[06:35] <Snake__> never used it
[06:35] <Snake__> give it a shot?
[06:35] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: let me type one...
[06:35] <Anpheus> Robotgeek: Do you know how I could mount an Active Directory shared location?
[06:35] <robotgeek> Anpheus: nope, sorry
[06:36] <Snake__> robotgeek: man this thing takes me 2 hours to complie
[06:36] <Anpheus> Snake__: I'm going to ask the folks at #ubuntu, the instructions should be just about identical.
[06:36] <Snake__> Anpheus: if its CLI it will be
[06:36] <Snake__> robotgeek: (1.4 amarok that is)
[06:36] <robotgeek> Snake__: enjoy your software :)
[06:36] <Snake__> lol
[06:37] <robotgeek> Snake__: you could have added dapper sources, and maybe said apt-get -b amarok or something, which would have built it for ya
[06:37] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: [4295991.705000]  orinoco_cs 0.14alpha2 (David Gibson <email> Pavel Roskin <email>
[06:37] <Snake__> robotgeek: do you know assembly code?
[06:37] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: i sniped the email part
[06:38] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: yeah, that guy is the developer :)
[06:39] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: is it starting to look to you like the stars alinged to prevent me from using wirerless in linux?
[06:40] <InteliWasp> :?
[06:40] <InteliWasp> :/
[06:40] <robotgeek> Snake__: i used to know it
[06:40] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: hmm, it's just that i am not familiar with the wireless card in question
[06:41] <InteliWasp> man... of all the orinoco cards on ebay, i chose the one that is not native to linux....
[06:41] <Snake__> robotgeek: you should try out this game called droidbattles, I cant play it myself, but you create virtual robots, and write how they fight in assemby. I thought you used to build them, so I thought maybe you would be intrested :)
[06:42] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc4.tar.gz
[06:42] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: and on top of that the inf file is so messed up i don't think it would ever work with ndis-wrapper
[06:42] <robotgeek> Snake__: thanks, but i will pass for writing robots in python
[06:43] <Anpheus> I don't know if the folks in #ubuntu can hear me.
[06:43] <robotgeek> Anpheus: patience
[06:43] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: download that
[06:43] <Snake__> lol robotgeek :)
[06:44] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: bvm, i think it's different
[06:44] <robotgeek> nvm, i meant
[06:45] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: will i need to move it into it's own folder b4 extraxting?
[06:46] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: no, don't do anything. it's the same driver we used before. i'm reading up on the net
[06:51] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: so have i set the record for the longest support session yet?  :P
[06:51] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: actually no
[06:51] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: i have helped a lady in Australia recover her data over irc :)
[06:51] <InteliWasp> wow, i hope it worked?
[06:51] <robotgeek> it was the most exhausting support session, about 4-5 hours
[06:52] <robotgeek> yeah, it worked
[06:52] <InteliWasp> that's good to know
[06:52] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: http://questier.com/howto.html why don't you follow that howto?
[06:53] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: wich part?
[06:53] <robotgeek> Installation (on Mandrake 9.2) << InteliWasp
[06:54] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: since i do not have internet access for the lappy, i guess i will call it a nite
[06:54] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: hmm, okay
[06:54] <InteliWasp> i hope it will work
[06:55] <InteliWasp> bye all!!!
[06:55] <robotgeek> night InteliWasp
[07:11] <Blippe> how do i get parport0 (not in /dev and used by my scanner) accessable by other than root/sudo?
[07:13] <id_sonic> hello, everybody, I need a qt client for moveabletype.
[08:01] <E-Train> what is the wiki that has instructions to install the files to watch dvd's
[08:01] <robotgeek> E-Train, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <E-Train> thanks
[08:06] <csseyah> hi
[08:06] <csseyah> question guys!\
[08:07] <csseyah> anyone here have winetools???
[08:16] <jerware> fellaz
[08:16] <jerware> how can i have my printer detected automatticaly
[08:28] <mijndert> Hi there. How long will it take before OOo 2.0.2 will come availible in APT?
[08:28] <E-Train> i just tried to add a repository to apt and now i cant open apt. how can i remove that repository?
[08:29] <mijndert> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list .. you can delete it there
[08:30] <E-Train> thanks
[08:33] <E-Train> mijndert it says it is read-only when i open it in emacs how can i edit it
[08:33] <mijndert> You will need root privileges to write the file
[08:34] <E-Train> ahh so sudo ehh
[08:34] <E-Train> worked; you rule.
[08:34] <mijndert> heh np
[08:36] <E-Train> another question; how do i install libdvdcss2 if its not on the repository list anymore
[08:37] <mijndert> Try this: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[08:38] <mijndert> Also read the  #How to add extra repositories part :)
[08:39] <robotgeek> E-Train, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <robotgeek> You will need to enable multiverse and universe,i guess
[08:40] <E-Train> it gave me a message when i tried to sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:40] <E-Train> can someone message me so i can paste the error
[08:41] <robotgeek> E-Train, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:42] <E-Train> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9896
[08:43] <E-Train> any tips on that one?
[08:45] <robotgeek> E-Train: did you even read the wiki link i gave you?
[08:51] <robotgeek> E-Train: you need libdvdread3
[08:53] <E-Train> it drive me nuts that i have had ubuntu for 3 months and cant play a dvd yet
[08:53] <E-Train> and yes i read and tried the wiki
[08:54] <robotgeek> E-Train: did you install libdvdread3
[08:54] <E-Train> yes
[08:54] <robotgeek> E-Train: did you try opening it  in vlc?
[08:55] <E-Train> mplayer, totum, and kaffine
[08:55] <E-Train> not vlc
[08:55] <yo_yo> vlc open everything
[08:56] <yo_yo> i already use vlc
[08:56] <robotgeek> true
[08:56] <yo_yo> :)
[08:59] <yo_yo> where are you from?
[08:59] <yo_yo> :)
[09:02] <yo_yo> boys...do you know exist a program like ethereal for windows?
[09:03] <andred> yo_yo: ethereal :)
[09:03] <E-Train> i am getting some error about internal gstreamer error: negoation problem
[09:05] <robotgeek> E-Train: hmm, maybe ask in #ubuntu too
[09:06] <yo_yo> E-Train download vlc
[09:06] <yo_yo> ;)
[09:06] <yo_yo> andred, ethereal go under windows too?
[09:06] <yo_yo> :D
[09:07] <andred> yo_yo: yes
[09:07] <yo_yo> good
[09:07] <yo_yo> :D
[09:07] <yo_yo> thanks
[09:07] <yo_yo> :*
[09:07] <E-Train> how do you use vlc to open a disk i just tried an dont know what to do
[09:08] <yo_yo> E-Train...excuse me....where are you from?
[09:08] <robotgeek> E-Train: File -> Open Dic
[09:08] <robotgeek> Disc
[09:08] <yo_yo> or play
[09:08] <yo_yo> :)
[09:09] <yo_yo> and find the disk
[09:09] <yo_yo> :)
[09:10] <yo_yo> good morning C-O-L-T and tanghus
[09:10] <C-O-L-T> yo_yo: good morning to you too
[09:10] <robotgeek> yo_yo: you might get better responses in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <yo_yo> no problem
[09:12] <yo_yo> :)
[09:13] <C-O-L-T> yo_yo: this is not a chat channel. People over here discuss kubuntu related problems and help each other. If you would like to chat with kubuntu users go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <Hobbsee> hi yo_yo
[09:14] <yo_yo> ah ok
[09:14] <C-O-L-T> yo_yo: but this is not a strict channel so you can chat here also :)(
[09:14] <yo_yo> excuseme
[09:14] <C-O-L-T> :)
[09:14] <yo_yo> ._.
[09:15] <C-O-L-T> yo_yo: no problem don't ask for excuses
[09:17] <C-O-L-T> Anyway who can tell me where can I get a dock bar like in MAC OS X
[09:18] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: kde-look.org or kde-apps.org
[09:18] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: smoothdock, i think it is called
[09:18] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: ok thanks
[09:31] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: can you tell me a text editor which counts how many words have you written down?
[09:31] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: cat file.xml | wc
[09:31] <trappist> wc -l file.xml
[09:31] <trappist> err
[09:31] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: what is that?
[09:31] <trappist> -w for words
[09:32] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: wc == word count
[09:32] <robotgeek> trappist: i do make use of a lot of redundant cats
[09:32] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: but where to write this or how?
[09:32] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: in a console/terminal
[09:32] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: oh I see. :))) Thanks
[09:34] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: it gives me three numbers what the hell are the three  5     111     547
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> the middle one is the word count
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> word number
[09:35] <trappist> coruja: lines words and characters
[09:35] <trappist> err for you, C-O-L-T
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> trappist: thanks
[09:35] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: man wc
[09:36] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: thanks for everything
[09:39] <Zenethian> Has anyone had any problems with hearing pops after artsplay plays something?
[09:45] <kameron> is there a qt frontend to vim?
[09:46] <Zenethian> kameron: there's a KDE one called kvim
[09:46] <kameron> Zenethian, roger
[09:46] <Zenethian> it nicely embeds into a variety of KDE editors that support swappable editors
[09:46] <Zenethian> like quanta and kate
[09:47] <kameron> kvim is obsolete, these replace it: vim-tcl vim-python vim-perl vim-gtk vim-gnome vim
[09:47] <Zenethian> wow
[09:47] <Zenethian> that's pretty odd.
[09:47] <kameron> hey?
[09:54] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: where can i get themes for konversation
[09:54] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: kde-apps.org
[09:54] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: kde-look.org maybe
[09:55] <robotgeek> kameron: yes, there was something called as yzis also
[09:55] <kameron> yzis = kvim?
[09:55] <robotgeek> kameron: i've given up gui vim and have started using console vim. kick ass integration
[09:55] <robotgeek> kameron: actually no, it's a different project
[09:55] <robotgeek> kvim is dead
[09:55] <kameron> i've always used console vim, just looking for something else.
[09:56] <robotgeek> kameron: heh, i was looking too, just ended up reading the manual for improved productivity
[09:57] <kameron> hah, alright.
[09:57] <Skrot> Hi. Anyone here using a centrino and using speedstep?
[10:02] <Tonio_> hello
[10:25] <duckdown> Can someone tell me what is required to connect to SSL IRC servers?  I have all kinds of openssl, libssl* packages installed, and have plenty of clients with SSL support, yet, it always just hangs when I connect to the SSL port but doesn't exchange keys or what not.. What did I forget to enable or configure?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !backup
[11:03] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[11:07] <DeBert> mornin
[11:13] <vicks> trying out the latest kubuntu dapper. man has this come a long way since breezy. it rocks. good work y'all!
[11:16] <ubuntu> any1 knows if I can get my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA to work under kubuntu?
[11:16] <Latis-> is it possible?
[11:18] <tango_> I'm downloading the latest Breezy Live CD ISO, which I will use later today to (hopefully) recover an unbootable PC of a friend of mine. From the last time I tried the mixed Live/Install DVD I remember that I had no idea what the user password was (when running Live), which meant I couldn't sudo or anything. Will I have the same problem this time?
[11:49] <flixor> could somebody explain to me what scim or skim is
[11:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:50] <slow-motion> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fscim < das scim oder http://www.projectscim.com/ < das hier?
[11:51] <slow-motion> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fscim < this scim or http://www.projectscim.com/ < this?
[11:52] <Rayman> it's the last one and a kde front-end to it.
[11:52] <Rayman> I can't get amarok 1.4_beta2 to play mp3s with gstreamer0.1x and alsa
[11:52] <Rayman> :f
[11:54] <navid> How can I add a network interface to Kubuntu?
[11:54] <Rayman> !dapper
[11:54] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[11:55] <navid> I have an external modem that is not detected
[11:55] <navid> I can connect using pppconfig though
[11:55] <navid> But I want to know the traffic stats
[11:55] <navid> So I downloaded KNetDockApp
[11:56] <Hobbsee> navid: kdesu kwrite /etc/network/interfaces
[11:56] <navid> And what should I write to add the modem?
[11:56] <navid> Its connected on ttyS0 Hobbsee
[11:56] <Hobbsee> ah....
[11:56] <Hobbsee> auto ttySO, then some more stuff on the next line
[11:56] <Hobbsee> man interfaces
[11:57] <Hobbsee> and it'll tell you how
[11:57] <Hobbsee> i've never tried a modem before
[11:57] <navid> Thanks Hobbsee
[12:23] <me2win> !lamp
[12:23] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:48] <ph8> hey guys, for some reason all my input/text fields in firefox display with a grey background (which is the same colour as the blinking cursor (:/)) - i can't seem to get rid of it by adjusting kde themes or anything, it's driving me nuts! can anyone help? screenshot @ http://www.cooksworldwide.net/snapshot.png
[12:57] <sorin> hello
[01:23] <Ardarandir> moin
[01:26] <DarkSilver> hi can anuone help me with mouting shit?
[01:26] <DarkSilver> anyone*
[01:27] <DarkSilver> mounting*
[01:27] <DarkSilver> xD
[01:27] <hatake_kakashi> mounting what?
[01:28] <tristan_> hello
[01:29] <tristan_> I created a script I put in autostart but it does not work
[01:29] <tristan_> Anyone can help?
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: maybe you forgot to set the eXecute bit?
[01:29] <tristan_> no it's execute
[01:30] <tristan_> here it is the script
[01:30] <tristan_> #!/bin/sh
[01:30] <tristan_> xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf
[01:30] <tristan_> I am the owner and it can execute but the only thing it does at start up is opening xmodmap.conf with kate
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> you are probably supposed to do something like ./foo.sh  if that does not work, bash ./foo.sh
[01:31] <DarkSilver> hatake_kakashi, naruto fan.. cool ^^
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> DarkSilver: mmmh
[01:32] <DarkSilver> well kubuntu sais the hard disks and partition are mounted.. but storage media is empty :/
[01:32] <DarkSilver> www.darksilver.nl/files/media
[01:32] <DarkSilver> printscreen
[01:32] <tristan_> hatake_kakashi, I have to replache #! /bin/sh by ./foo.sh?
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: no for the execution via command line
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> DarkSilver: hmm, paste your 'mount' into pastebin's site
[01:34] <tristan_> hatake_kakashi, Sorry but I don't know about bash scripting...
[01:34] <DarkSilver> you mean my fstab hatake_kakashi ?
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> DarkSilver: no the output of 'cat /etc/mtab'
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: hmm..
[01:36] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: I normally start programs via .bashrc or .bash_profile, etc not sure about starting it upon logging in X
[01:37] <tristan_> hatake_kakashi, Ok, so if in .bashrc I put xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf it should work?
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: it probably will work
[01:45] <ph8> hey guys, for some reason all my input/text fields in firefox display with a grey background (which is the same colour as the blinking cursor (:/)) - i can't seem to get rid of it by adjusting kde themes or anything, it's driving me nuts! can anyone help? screenshot @ http://www.cooksworldwide.net/snapshot.png
[01:49] <highquality>  laptop for sale 500$ want it gone today. price includes shipping, case, wireless router. message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[01:59] <Dreamstar> hi guys
[01:59] <jackphil> redhat has kudzu, what's in the ubuntu?
[01:59] <Dreamstar> i'm trying to install my EPSON C62 printer on ubuntu but it says that CUPS server isn't responding even if i can see it is running! what can i do?
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> jackphil: what is kudzu, a hardware detecting manager type of thing?
[02:03] <Ardarandir> Dreamstar, a widespread kubuntu problem under kde 3.5 or higher
[02:03] <Ardarandir> got it too
[02:04] <jackphil> hatake, yes. i want a analog in ubuntu
[02:04] <Ardarandir> suppose its sth bout root-rights but not sure
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> jackphil: hmm, not sure
[02:05] <Dreamstar> Ardarandir: i dunno why it seems like i've succeeded installing the printer...it is printing a test page now
[02:05] <Dreamstar> Ardarandir: well it prints...but in the wrong way :D
[02:06] <Ardarandir> ok.. my printer istn printing at all
[02:07] <Ardarandir> its not responding in any way
[02:07] <Ardarandir> im sry, but ive got no time now.. have work to do.. bye... :(
[02:08] <Dreamstar> Ardarandir: once i was in System settings--->printer tab, i got the error message from CUPS server not responding, however when i clicked on the Add tab i've been able to install a printer anyway
[02:08] <Dreamstar> ok have a nice working day, see ya ;)
[02:08] <Ardarandir> thats the same like wuith my printer
[02:08] <Ardarandir> but hes not responding
[02:08] <Ardarandir> bye
[02:08] <Ardarandir> as i sid,  wide-spread problem - i got it since the upgrade to kde 3.5
[02:34] <ahmed> I'm a newbie with kubuntu, where do I download the latest 'devel' iso ??
[02:35] <ahmed> bingo, dapper flight4 found it
[02:36] <ahmed> is kubuntu still second grade citizen ? (last time I checked it was)
[02:43] <_mindspin> it doesn't need that much support haha ;-)
[02:50] <slow-motion> bbl
[03:02] <sorin> Where are smb locations mounted? I'd like to use amarok to catalogue a smb share.
[03:05] <_mindspin> I mount it to /mnt/servername
[03:06] <sorin> And Konqueror?
[03:06] <sorin> Network dir, wherever that may be?
[03:06] <_mindspin> you'll have a look
[03:06] <_mindspin> .kde/cache somewhere...
[03:07] <qwertyu> hi there!
[03:07] <qwertyu> i need help!
[03:07] <_mindspin> You could check the samba settings and the file associations/paths in kcontrol
[03:08] <qwertyu> anyone willing to help me? i'm a newie here..
[03:08] <_evil_h_> just ask your question
[03:09] <qwertyu> First, my machine specs: AMD Duron, ATI Radeon 9250, 375MB ram.
[03:10] <qwertyu> my problem is:
[03:10] <qwertyu> i run kubuntu nicely!
[03:10] <qwertyu> 5 minutes later...
[03:11] <qwertyu> it goes blank.. my monitor is like turned off.
[03:11] <qwertyu> any idea?
[03:11] <_mindspin> which kubuntu ?
[03:12] <_evil_h_> does the computer reboot or does the monitor just shut off?
[03:12] <Rayman> my X won't start with linux-image-2.6.15-17-k7 -- starts fine with the -386 one.
[03:12] <Rayman> could it be the nvidia
[03:12] <qwertyu> i've installed ubuntu before (5.10) and the syntom is the same with kubuntu.
[03:13] <_mindspin> did you have a try with, say vesa driver?
[03:14] <bobble> Hi, anybody know how to stop audio cds autoloading into konqueror?
[03:14] <qwertyu> oh. my monitor not shut off, but it is like "shut off". just like using "blank" screen saver
[03:14] <_evil_h_> ok when i try logging in to Kubuntu I get the following error: the following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
[03:15] <_evil_h_> no write access to '/home/raymond/.ICEauthority'
[03:15] <_evil_h_> what did i break and how do i fix it?^^^
[03:16] <qwertyu> vesa driver? never heard that.. but before i installed kubuntu, i have mandriva 2006 and it run nicely on my machine
[03:17] <_mindspin> vesa is just a simple driver that works on "every" graphics card
[03:17] <_mindspin> you probably have driver/xorg related error
[03:18] <qwertyu> mesa=vesa or mesa<>vesa?
[03:18] <_mindspin> vesa
[03:19] <_mindspin> can you log in on console?
[03:20] <qwertyu> i have 3d acceleration on ubuntu and mandriva.
[03:20] <qwertyu> but not in redhat enterprise 4.
[03:22] <qwertyu> vesa? can anyone give me any URL to find it? i would like to know more about "vesa"
[03:23] <_evil_h_> !vesa
[03:23] <bipolar> does anyone know what happed to kaffeine-gstreamer in dapper?
[03:23] <_evil_h_> http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/manindex4.html
[03:23] <_evil_h_> qwertyu^^
[03:25] <_evil_h_> qwertyu: vesa is a basic driver that works on any video card and provides 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 screen resolutions at 16 bit color and below
[03:25] <_evil_h_> and no 3d acceleration^
[03:27] <qwertyu> oo.. that bad..
[03:29] <_evil_h_> ok when i try logging in to Kubuntu I get the following error: the following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
[03:29] <_evil_h_>  no write access to '/home/raymond/.ICEauthority'
[03:29] <_evil_h_> KDE is unable to start.
[03:29] <_evil_h_> what did i break and how do i fix it?^^
[03:29] <HkS-3207> mm
[03:29] <HkS-3207> o wow :x
[03:29] <qwertyu> i can run kubuntu with 1080x1024, true colour and 3d acceleration for five minutes. is there are any tool to change 5minutes to.. infinite?
[03:30] <HkS-3207> sound ain't working on my apple iBook
[03:32] <_evil_h_> how do i change permissions in Konsole?
[03:33] <HkS-3207> chmod ?
[03:33] <racter> hello - i am using madwifi with a belkin pcmcia card on kubuntu and i have to re-run the command 'sudo dhclient' at the terminal about every 30 seconds in order to keep my connection - does anyone have an idea what this problem might be?
[03:36] <qwertyu> permission? i think.. by using "chmod"
[03:37] <_evil_h_> damn i really dont want to reformat and install Kubuntu
[03:37] <racter> qwertyu: what?
[03:38] <qwertyu> oh sorry! ;_)
[03:39] <_evil_h_> !ICEauthority
[03:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _evil_h_
[03:39] <kameron> what engines are available for amarok?
[03:39] <_evil_h_> xine, gstreamer
[03:40] <_evil_h_> theres more but i dont know what they are
[03:41] <kameron> yeah, i used to use gstreamer.. but it doesn't look like it's available in dapper.
[03:41] <kameron> it lists xine, and arts. but i want to use gstreamer.
[03:41] <kameron> i thought maybe i was crazy for a minute.
[03:42] <_evil_h_> i dont know about dapper. im still using Breezy.
[03:43] <kameron> hmm.
[03:43] <kameron> i have all the packages installed. it's just not listing gstreamer.
[03:47] <_evil_h_> so anyone have any idea how to fix my problem? or am i just going to have to format and reinstall?
[03:48] <ahmed> *buntu doesnt really have any configuration utilities, right ?
[03:49] <racter> there are gui's but not command-line configuration utils like in redhat (i think)
[03:51] <qwertyu> _evil_h_: i would delete the .ICEauthority file and restart the computer. kubuntu will replace the file with the new one on startup
[03:51] <racter> what's in that file anyway?
[03:51] <_evil_h_> ok. will try that
[03:53] <qwertyu> i guest: "kubuntu will replace the file with the new one on startup".. :-
[03:53] <qwertyu> i only GUEST.. :-)
[03:54] <_evil_h_> whats the delete command?
[03:54] <ufo> _evil_h_, rm
[03:54] <qwertyu> rm .ICEauthority
[03:54] <_evil_h_> ok
[03:55] <_evil_h_> well lets see what that does
[03:57] <qwertyu> "guest" = "guess" (shameful spelling mistakes)
[03:58] <_evil_h_> it worked
[03:58] <_evil_h_> WHOO HOO!!!
[03:59] <slow-motion> re
[04:01] <qwertyu> _evil_h_ : :-D
[04:18] <ahmed> racter: u said there are conf GUIs for *buntu ?? what's the name plz ?
[04:18] <racter> sure in kubuntu you can use 'kcontrol'
[04:19] <racter> in ubuntu there's a menu option under the 'computer' or 'system' menu (i can't remember what it's called)
[04:19] <ahmed> that launches ?
[04:20] <racter> i haven't used gnome ubuntu in a while, i don't remember how the config is set up there
[04:20] <ahmed> so kcontrol is all there is...
[04:20] <ahmed> I will use kubuntu too
[04:20] <racter> what do you need to configure?
[04:20] <ahmed> servers :)
[04:21] <ahmed> ever wonder why redhat/suse write custom conf GUIs ?
[04:21] <ahmed> ;)
[04:22] <nrdb> I had a setup where when I pressed the power button the computer would power down, it doesn't do this any more can someone help in getting this to work again?
[04:23] <racter> ahmed - cool, that would be really nice
[04:23] <Kyral> nrdb: How is this related to Linux?
[04:23] <ahmed> racter: the project is there, just slow
[04:23] <Kyral> racter: they have been working on it
[04:23] <racter> cool
[04:23] <nrdb> Kyral: I am using kubuntu
[04:24] <Kyral> nrdb: Yes, but how does this relate to Linux? Sounds like a hardware problem :P
[04:24] <Kyral> nrdb: Check your BIOS settings
[04:24] <ahmed> Kyral: acpi problem
[04:24] <nrdb> Kyral: the only thing that changed is I did an update on the install.
[04:25] <Kyral> Then again I have a ****ed up power button that requires me to ducttape it down for the computer to stay on
[04:25] <racter> whoa
[04:25] <Kyral> But then again
[04:25] <Kyral> the case is silver
[04:26] <Kyral> and the ducttape is silverish :P
[04:26] <weedar_> You remove it every time you turn off your computer Kyral ?
[04:26] <nrdb> I suppose it does look to bad, but if it goes thats the main thing.
[04:26] <Kyral> weedar_: You assume I turn it off
[04:26] <weedar_> heh
[04:27] <Kyral> It turns off sometimes, but not by choice
[04:27] <weedar_> My 'puter powers up after powering down unless I keep the power button pressed in (or disconnect the power cable)
[04:27] <nrdb> Unless it in use 24/7 its just a waste of power and generates polution to leave it on.
[04:28] <Kyral> One of the Electrical Eng majors on my floor is bound and determined to fix it
[04:28] <Kyral> nrdb: MPrime
[04:28] <Kyral> Plus...I cannot sleep without the sound of the fans going
[04:28] <weedar_> I get the waste of power part, but how does a computer generate pollution?
[04:28] <nrdb> Kyral: what??
[04:28] <Kyral> nrdb: Ever hear of "White Noise"?
[04:29] <weedar_> Ooh I hated that movie
[04:29] <weedar_> (just kidding, I know what you mean)
[04:29] <Kyral> weedar_: I meant the concept
[04:29] <weedar_> ;)
[04:29] <nrdb> weedar_: the use of any electricity generates polution.
[04:29] <weedar_> how nrdb ?
[04:29] <Kyral> Solar Power
[04:29] <Kyral> Wind Power
[04:29] <Kyral> once we get practical Fusion we are all set
[04:29] <weedar_> I get my electricy from water =)
[04:30] <weedar_> *electricity
[04:30] <nrdb> Kyral: not as much but there was an large amout generated in making them in the first place.
[04:30] <Kyral> Nuclear Power isn't very polluting
[04:31] <nrdb> Kyral: what about the waste that stay arround for the next 10000 years?
[04:32] <Kyral> Shoot it to space?
[04:32] <roy> hi, I have a dhcp question
[04:33] <racter> nrdb - shoot it into the sun; nuclear fusion happens all the time there anyway.
[04:33] <Kyral> lol
[04:33] <nrdb> Kyral: thought of that, but too many rocket blow up, if one of those had a nuclear payload I woundn't want to be near.
[04:33] <roy> I just installed kubuntu a while back, and after some googling, I found that I just needed to run dhclient eth0 to set up a connection via my router...but it seems I have to do this with every login, is there a way it can be done automatically?
[04:33] <weedar_> roy, what you want to do is edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <Kyral> roy: sudo kedit /etc/network/interfaces and on the line that says "iface eth0" add "dhcp" to the end
[04:34] <weedar_> yeah, what he said
[04:35] <roy> currently it's "iface eth0 inet static", with some addl lines like address, netmask, etc. below
[04:35] <weedar_> change static to dhcp
[04:35] <weedar_> and remove the lines beneath
[04:36] <racter> can i add my ath0 interface to this config and somehow get around this problem i'm having of having to re-run the command "sudo dhclient" every 30 seconds to keep connected to the internet?
[04:37] <nrdb> back to the question I asked before, my computer has stoped powering down when I press the power button. where does this get setup?
[04:42] <weedar_> nrdb, it doesn't power down even if you hold it in for a few seconds?
[04:42] <roy> thanks guys, I'll see if it works on next reboot ^_^
[04:42] <nrdb> weedar_: yes, it just turns off then.
[04:42] <weedar_> oh sorry, I misunderstood "powering down" :)
[04:43] <nrdb> weedar_: it was working untill a few days ago, I think it stoped after an upgrade.
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> argh! farking kopete is pi**ing me off with the yahoo disconnects.
[04:44] <weedar_> nrdb, did you upgrade your kernel?
[04:44] <nrdb> weedar_: I don't remember what apt-get did
[04:45] <andred> LeeJunFan: the problem is solved in kopete 0.12
[04:45] <weedar_> nrdb, if you use GRUB as your bootloader you would have gotten a new boot-option if it upgraded your kernel
[04:46] <weedar_> So if you originally had two options : 2.6.8 and 2.6.8 (secure) you would for example get 2.6.9 and 2.6.9 (secure) in addition to the two previous ones
[04:48] <nrdb> weedar_: grub allways has two things to boot from I don't remember what there exact numbers where before.
[04:49] <weedar_> nrdb, okay, for me I always get more options when upgrading to a new kernel. So I guess we can assume that is not the problem :)
[04:50] <angasule> !formats
[04:50] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule
[04:50] <nrdb> weedar_: I don't think so, I presume some config has been changed somewhere.
[04:50] <angasule> !restricted_formats
[04:50] <ubotu> angasule: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <angasule> !java
[04:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:50] <angasule> !flash
[04:50] <ubotu> hmm... flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <_patrick_> quelqu'un a -t-il utilis kopete avec gnomemeeting ?
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> andred: where does one get kopete .12? I'm running dapper btw.
[04:52] <weedar_> _patrick, French Kubuntu channel -> #kubuntu-fr
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> ah, perhaps it's in this batch of updates I'm doing now.
[04:53] <andred> LeeJunFan: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kopete
[04:53] <andred> LeeJunFan: i have a repository with packages if you don't wanna compile it for yourself
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> andred: okay, thought maybe it was a deb somewhere, no prob. I can't compile it.
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> I can I mean.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> andred: thanks.
[04:54] <andred> LeeJunFan: there is a deb. add 'deb http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete dapper main' to your sources.list
[04:55] <andred> LeeJunFan: but it's beta atm
[04:56] <roy> gah...I'm having trouble getting amarok to play mp3s, can anyone help? it's telling me that GStreamer can't play mp3s...
[04:59] <weedar_> andred, the kopete homepage calls it alpha even
[04:59] <djk_> is there a simple way i can download certain packages with all their dependencies, without installing them, then burn them and install them on a pc with a fresh kubuntu installation. the pc which would be used to download the packages runs kubuntu, but not a fresh installation
[05:00] <weedar_> roy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- Read the part on mp3
[05:00] <andred> weedar_: the beta was not officially announced yet
[05:01] <weedar_> djk_, use the man-page for apt-get (but a hint: -d option downloads only ;-)
[05:01] <weedar_> andred, so you're leaking secret information then ;)
[05:01] <roy> thanks!
[05:01] <gamma> how can i get the katapult tray icon to appear again after i put don't show in tray?
[05:07] <roy> what does it mean when I get something like this:
[05:07] <roy> Package libmad0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:07] <roy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:07] <roy> is only available from another source
[05:07] <roy> E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate
[05:08] <weedar_> My guess is that you haven't added universe / multiverse to your sources.list
[05:08] <_ita> im off for today
[05:08] <_ita> take care
[05:09] <roy> you're right...I haven;t
[05:09] <roy> I'll try it out
[05:09] <sebastian> hallo
[05:11] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[05:11] <djclue917> gamma: edit the file ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc
[05:11] <linuxboyfriend> is it necessary to have a 3D card for XGL
[05:11] <djclue917> change SystrayIcon=true
[05:11] <djclue917> then, killall -KILL katapult
[05:11] <gamma> djclue917: doesn't exist here because i thought deleting would fix it
[05:12] <gamma> :P
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> andred: is it just me or are kdelibs-dev's dependancies all afubar?
[05:12] <gamma> ctrl+c in the open katapult window calls the config
[05:12] <djclue917> gamma: then you have to restart katapult
[05:12] <djclue917> gamma: killall -KILL katapult
[05:12] <gamma> djclue917: i did.. it doesn't write a new config even with kde restarted
[05:12] <gamma> djclue917: already did
[05:12] <djclue917> gamma: hmm
[05:13] <djclue917> gamma: wait up
[05:13] <gamma> djclue917: i fixed it.. appreciate the help though
[05:13] <djclue917> gamma: ok. you're welcome.
[05:15] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell me about glx?
[05:15] <linuxboyfriend> oh
[05:15] <linuxboyfriend> sorry its xgl
[05:16] <djclue917> linuxboyfriend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGL
[05:17] <djclue917> linuxboyfriend: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXgl
[05:17] <linuxboyfriend> djclue917: thanks lemme check
[05:21] <ryanakca> for someone who wants to become a Unix System Administrator, what language would you suggest learning? Python or C?
[05:22] <djclue917> ryanakca: both. :p
[05:23] <djclue917> ryanakca: well i guess it's better to start off with C since UNIX traces it's roots from C...
[05:23] <ryanakca> djclue917: aye, kk
[05:32] <Riddell> bash
[05:32] <nrdb> I am trying to get the power button to shutdown the computer, I have found that it is executing '/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh' this executes the line 'dcop --all-sessions --all-users ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 0 && exit 0' this causes the error 'DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket' and 'ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!' can anyone tell me what this means.
[05:33] <tijn> sry did a /ame :s
[05:45] <DuNaMiS> Hi, I'm using kubuntu 5.10 and I'm trying to install wx.NET, does anyone knows how to do this
[05:50] <Ras420> i am wondering why ubuntu uses ext3fs instead of reiserfs, why is this???
[05:54] <roy> my kubuntu install doesn't seem to want me to go to a resolution higher than 1028x768, is this normal
[05:54] <roy> ?
[05:55] <ccc_> Ras420: it was considered a better choice, i guess.
[05:55] <ccc_> roy: can you monitor handle more? perhaps you should try the drivers for your video card.
[06:00] <roy> I'm dual booting with WinXP, and XP has a higher resolution, so yes, my monitor can handle more
[06:00] <roy> does nvidia provide linux drivers?
[06:00] <ccc_> !nvidia
[06:00] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:00] <ccc_> check those links
[06:01] <roy> thanks!
[06:06] <aztak> howdy folks, when's dapper planned to be released?
[06:06] <aztak> !dapper
[06:06] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[06:06] <aztak> ah - there I go :)
[06:20] <ph8> hi all
[06:20] <ph8> I'm hoping someone can tell me how to change my keyboard shortcuts for things like desktop changing etc?
[06:21] <manu> hi
[06:21] <manu> everybody
[06:21] <manu> y a t'il des francais par la ?
[06:24] <_mindspin> !f
[06:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[06:24] <_mindspin> !fr
[06:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:24] <manu> ok merci !
[06:26] <roy> hi
[06:27] <roy> how can I change my resolution to higher than 1078x768? The "Configure Desktop" dialog doesn't seem to support it
[06:28] <Riddell> roy: dapper or breezy?
[06:29] <roy> um...I don't know, sorry
[06:29] <roy> how can I tell?
[06:31] <roy> oh...I think it's breezy
[06:37] <StucKman> hi all. I'm experiencing some problems printing in a smb-reachable printer. I can login perfectly, so no auth problems. but if I send a test page, cups goes nuts, eats all the cpu (but niced) and nothing reaches the print server. I tried loging in w/ smbclient, and I can, I can even consult the queue, but when I try to print a ps file , all I got is one page w/ the ps header (the printer is not ps AFAIK, it's an epson 5700). so, any hi
[06:42] <inteliwasp> how do i find out what kernel i am running?
[06:43] <me2win> uhh
[06:43] <me2win> have you modified the kernel in any way?
[06:43] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: uname -a
[06:43] <me2win> or that way :D
[06:45] <inteliwasp> thankyou!!!
[06:47] <me2win> robotgeek, any specific reason why it doesnt print distro?
[06:50] <robotgeek> me2win: that is handled by lsb_release -a
[06:50] <me2win> ooo
[06:50] <me2win> ty much
[06:51] <theine> Is it me or does konqueror in Dapper have lots of trouble rendering http://planet.ubuntu.com ?
[06:52] <me2win> theine, checking
[06:52] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: I was the guy  with the orinoco card problems... i am getting install errors
[06:53] <robotgeek> theine: interesting, it ismuch slower on konq
[06:53] <me2win> theine, same here, much slower
[06:53] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: brb, lemme get coffee :)
[06:53] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: ok   :P
[06:54] <me2win> theine, it IS 169.2 kb
[06:54] <me2win> but still... lol
[06:54] <me2win> Seems like it has trouble with the db
[06:54] <aseigo> yes, looks like a bug in khtml in 3.5
[06:55] <aseigo> hmm. it's even pretty slow in firefox
[06:57] <me2win> aseigo, firefox renders it quickly actually
[06:57] <me2win> for a 169 KB page
[06:58] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: here is what I am trying to do... allong with errors :(     http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/592949
[07:00] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: thanks, looking
[07:04] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: can you join #wireless
[07:05] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: well, no need
[07:05] <inteliwasp> robotgeek, over your head? ;)
[07:06] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: can you tell me if it's a 11b card?
[07:06] <inteliwasp> robotgeek, yes 11b
[07:10] <ph8> I'm hoping someone can tell me how to change my keyboard shortcuts for things like desktop changing etc?
[07:11] <me2win> ph8, its in the system settings
[07:11] <me2win> if you go to the kde menu, then system settings
[07:12] <me2win> its undeerrr.....
[07:12] <ccc_> regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts
[07:12] <ccc_> :)
[07:12] <me2win> there ya go!
[07:12] <me2win> ccc_, <- He's tha man
[07:13] <ccc_> \o/
[07:14] <vicks> when i try to enable my wireless device (rt2570 usb-dongle) in kde it only flickers on and back off again. i can enable it in gnome. anyone knows what could be wrong?
[07:16] <robotgeek> vicks: hmm, lot of people are having problems with the wireless with gui. why don't you try it in command line?
[07:16] <robotgeek> vicks, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:16] <vicks> thanks robotgeek
[07:16] <leafw> anyone aware of what's up with the bug report system, the malone?
[07:17] <leafw> evenr since the move from bugzilla to malone I get this feeling the reported bugs are blatanly ignored
[07:17] <robotgeek> leafw: not really
[07:18] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: http://questier.com/wl_lkm_722_abg.tar.gz why don't we try it with this one?
[07:20] <leafw> robotgeek: where can one report "annoyances", which are not really bugs?
[07:21] <leafw> for example, konqueror insists in deleting whatever I write to the URL field on a new tab, if I don't wait for a second or so
[07:21] <leafw> so I do new tab, I start writing the URl, and gets blanked out ... annoying like hell
[07:21] <robotgeek> leafw: lemme try
[07:22] <leafw> Adept crashed on me when installing the GNU flash 0.4, although only at refreshing the package list - never crashed before.
[07:22] <robotgeek> leafw: are you on breezy?
[07:22] <leafw> then, kmail forgets the "Recently added emails" and I can't find the way to increase the number of email addresses that it can remember
[07:22] <leafw> breezy-ppc
[07:22] <dom> Kompose rox my world!
[07:22] <robotgeek> leafw: i don't have that issue on dapper ppc
[07:22] <leafw> kde 3.5 by the way
[07:23] <leafw> but that was on 3.4 as well
[07:23] <leafw> robotgeek: is dapper stable enough? I tried to install it on a powermac and it failed to boot.
[07:23] <leafw> about two months ago.
[07:23] <robotgeek> leafw: so, i open a new tab and type something in the address bar. it should go away if i don't type anything?
[07:24] <leafw> open new tab, start typing, and the URL field gets blanked out, so you have to start over
[07:24] <leafw> if you wait a second or two, it doesn't happen (may be blanking an already blanck URL field)
[07:24] <robotgeek> leafw: oh, i have my homepage set to blank, so new tabs might also be opening up blank url's
[07:25] <leafw> my homepage is set to blank as well
[07:25] <leafw> and also ... Xorg memory usage grows over time, in a week it grows to about 30 % (from a 12% basal)
[07:26] <leafw> and it grows to 40% if I open an .avi movie with VLC
[07:26] <leafw> (and close the movie)
[07:26] <leafw> I am not used to restart my powerbook every week. I usually don't restart it for months.
[07:27] <leafw> actually, the Xorg gets fixed with a logout/login, a X server restart
[07:27] <leafw> annoying in any case
[07:27] <trappist> sounds like a memory leak
[07:27] <leafw> and the Xorg still can't open the GLXGears over an ssh -X connection.
[07:28] <leafw> this is a confirmed bug, quite very annoying, and still floating around.
[07:28] <leafw> (no opengl over ssh -X )
[07:31] <leafw> and when is the GCC 4.1 comming up? Can't stand anymore the gcj problem with Gtk_image.c ...
[07:32] <_mauricio> hi there
[07:33] <_mauricio> does anybody know how to set "testing" releases for apt?
[07:34] <ph8> cheers me2win
[07:34] <me2win> np
[07:39] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: shuld I wait for dragorn or what?
[07:41] <mihai_> who can help me with some regular expressions?
[07:44] <mihai_> i need to know how to write the general specifier *
[07:45] <mihai_> beacause i'm comming from windows where * matches any string
[07:45] <mihai_> who can help me with some regular expressions?
[07:45] <jerware> the therea program for automattic printer detection ?
[07:46] <aseigo> jerware: the kde print setup dialog in the control panels
[07:48] <uniq> mihai_: explain what you're trying to do.
[07:53] <mihai_> how can i specify the end of the line as a regular expressions ????
[07:56] <mihai_> i have a file g.txt and i want (using grep) to print on the screen all the lines ending with space
[07:57] <nysosym> Hi zusammen :)
[07:57] <uniq> mihai_: grep ' '$ g.txt
[07:57] <mihai_> 10x
[07:57] <mihai_> empty lines by removing ' ' no?
[07:58] <mihai_> and finally a RE that matches lines with spaces or nothing
[07:59] <uniq> mihai_: '^$'  lines starting with new line.
[07:59] <nysosym> is it normal, that open office will be removed after update?
[08:00] <FlatAlex> has anybody installed OOo 2.02? i have trouble finding the mail merge o_O
[08:03] <slow-motion> re
[08:05] <uniq> mihai_: you can use [[:space:] ]  to match any space, tabs etc.
[08:07] <uniq> mihai_: like '[[:space:] ] $' to match lines ending with any space.
[08:08] <flatone> hu
[08:10] <mihai_> a RE that matches lines with spaces or nothing? grep ___ ?
[08:11] <mihai_> i mean how can i express that OR
[08:11] <uniq> '[[:space:] ] \|^$'
[08:11] <uniq> with \|
[08:11] <mihai_> beacause in my oppinion by using ^' '$ , grep will seek for lines with one space...
[08:11] <uniq> | is or
[08:11] <mihai_> ony one |
[08:11] <mihai_> ?
[08:12] <uniq> yes.
[08:12] <mihai_> good
[08:12] <mihai_> 10x
[08:12] <uniq> the \ is there to tell grep it's a command. not a character to match.
[08:52] <Datsunzoso> hey guys
[08:54] <robotgeek> hey Datsunzoso
[08:57] <me2win> man
[08:57] <Datsunzoso> i need help wth k3b anyone wanna lend  a hand
[08:58] <me2win> gnome has some nice icon artists in gnome-look.org
[08:58] <me2win> Datsunzoso, whatcha need
[08:58] <me2win> oh HEY Datsunzoso lol
[08:58] <me2win> hows it workin out for ya so far?
[08:58] <Datsunzoso> kinda good
[08:58] <Datsunzoso> not too bad
[08:58] <Datsunzoso> just some probs here and there but theyve been sorted out
[08:59] <me2win> nice
[08:59] <Datsunzoso> now im tryin to install k3b.... and i get this problem
[08:59] <me2win> i can try to help you with k3b, though ive never use it myself :P
[09:00] <Datsunzoso> what do u use?
[09:00] <me2win> ive never burned a CD in linux to be completely honest
[09:00] <me2win> but k3b is the way to go im sure, EVERYONE uses it :P
[09:00] <Datsunzoso> oh
[09:00] <Datsunzoso> well im trying to install it and its gives me this  crap
[09:00] <Snake__> K3B is awesome
[09:00] <Snake__> To the level of 9000000000000
[09:00] <Datsunzoso> it tells me that "There is no group burning"
[09:01] <Datsunzoso> im like tryin to install it
[09:01] <me2win> hmm
[09:01] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: Get it from the repos
[09:01] <Datsunzoso> its on settings and it says "use burning group" and thers a checkbox on the side... than thers a text box and it says burning
[09:01] <dom> datsunzoso did you install from source or from package
[09:01] <Datsunzoso> repos?
[09:01] <Datsunzoso> er i got it from adept
[09:01] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: okay, repos
[09:02] <Datsunzoso> i orginally wanted just to get the mp3 burn plugin for it, but than i saw that i could upgrade k3b
[09:02] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: hang on, let me boot it up and see where you are
[09:02] <Datsunzoso> which i did
[09:02] <Datsunzoso> well im tryin to
[09:02] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: what are you trying to burn
[09:02] <Datsunzoso> im not tryin to burn anything just yet, im trying to set it up
[09:03] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: well it should be up
[09:03] <Snake__> :)
[09:03] <Datsunzoso> like i got the upgrade off adept, than i gotta setup
[09:03] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: What do you need to set up?
[09:03] <Datsunzoso> idk! lol
[09:03] <me2win> heh
[09:03] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: This aint windows bro, when you download it, its installed, and set up
[09:03] <Datsunzoso> K->system->k3bsetup
[09:03] <Datsunzoso> thats what it says
[09:03] <Datsunzoso> .. before it was just k3b
[09:03] <Snake__> Hmm
[09:04] <Datsunzoso> but i decided to upgrade it from adept
[09:04] <Datsunzoso> cause it said "upgradeable"
[09:04] <Snake__> Yea
[09:04] <Snake__> alright Datsunzoso im running my configure, ill help ya out
[09:04] <Datsunzoso> wait..
[09:05] <Datsunzoso> i think i got it somehow 1 min
[09:05] <Snake__> Datsunzoso: Lol alright
[09:05] <Datsunzoso> damn
[09:05] <Snake__> ?
[09:05] <Datsunzoso> tee hee
[09:05] <Datsunzoso> i got it
[09:05] <Snake__> Woot
[09:05] <Snake__> Datsunzoso:  how long you been on linux?
[09:05] <Datsunzoso> i think the problem was that it was changing the permissions on who is allowed to burn
[09:06] <Datsunzoso> at the checkbox i had to just put in my username or w/e its called
[09:06] <Snake__> whatever works
[09:06] <Snake__> lol
[09:06] <Datsunzoso> true
[09:06] <Datsunzoso> thanks for the help though
[09:06] <Datsunzoso> lol
[09:07] <Snake__> I try :)
[09:07] <Datsunzoso> ive had kubuntu for about....5 days
[09:07] <Datsunzoso> lol
[09:07] <Datsunzoso> g2g
[09:10] <ganymed_> hallo
[09:15] <Snake__> welcome ganymed_
[09:15] <_roberto_> hola
[09:15] <_roberto_> alguen en espaol
[09:18] <robotgeek> !es
[09:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:24] <maddin> huhu
[09:32] <ganymed_> ciao
[10:14] <Evil_H> whats the command to unzip a bunch of .zip files at once?
[10:17] <heinkel_111> use wildcards?
[10:17] <Stephanosky> mi leggete?
[10:17] <Stephanosky> scusate qualcuno mi legge?
 Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:19] <robotgeek> Evil_H: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i ; done
[10:22] <Evil_H> thx
[10:24] <jcarter> hello
[10:24] <jcarter> anyone there?
[10:24] <me2win> hey
[10:25] <jcarter> sup
[10:25] <jcarter> just got kubuntu up and running
[10:25] <jcarter> native wireless is nice :)
[10:25] <me2win> jcarter, nice, you made the right choice (fuck gnome!)
[10:25] <me2win> errr
[10:25] <me2win> i thought i had filters...
[10:25] <me2win> lol
[10:25] <jcarter> heh
[10:26] <jcarter> my volume buttons aren't working though
[10:26] <jcarter> they did in ubuntu
[10:26] <me2win> hmm
[10:26] <jcarter> anyone have a dell latitude d600?
[10:26] <me2win> might be on of the startup processes
[10:26] <heinkel_111> jcarter..yes i have
[10:26] <me2win> match made in heaven!
[10:26] <jcarter> woohoo
[10:26] <jcarter> i'm new to irc
[10:26] <jcarter> what's with the red text?
[10:27] <heinkel_111> if i type your name in a line you will see it in red
[10:27] <heinkel_111> jcarter: see?
[10:27] <me2win> jcarter, so that you know somebody is talking directly to you
[10:27] <jcarter> heinkel_111: ?
[10:27] <jcarter> heinkel_111
[10:28] <DennisP> After I install the kubuntu-desktop package on Ubuntu, do I need to do any more configuration, or restart the computer?
[10:28] <heinkel_111> it just highlights your name when someone speaaaks it
[10:28] <jcarter> ohh
[10:28] <jcarter> but i don't see it
[10:28] <jcarter> ok
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> hi there
[10:28] <jcarter> hi
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> anyone knows how to change the copnsole font?
[10:28] <me2win> jcarter, it only turns red when your name shows up in the line
[10:28] <jcarter> gotcha
[10:28] <me2win> rysiek|pl, right click in the console :D
[10:29] <me2win> rysiek|pl, or click settings
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> me2win - great, but I ment console, not Konsole :] 
[10:29] <jcarter> so heinkel_111, did you have issues with the volume controls?
[10:29] <me2win> rysiek|pl, oh lolz
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> I am not *that* n00b ;)
[10:29] <heinkel_111> jcarter yes...it is a keyboards upport issue, but i cannot remember how it was solved
[10:29] <robotgeek> rysiek|pl: i think it's a kernel option
[10:30] <jcarter> heinkel_111, thanks, i'll look on ubuntuforums.org, is that the best place?
[10:30] <heinkel_111> had a friend work around it for me
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> great - which one? :) and is there no way of changing it without rebooting? I don't believe that
[10:32] <jcarter> so what happens if i take my friend's advice and type "run keylogger"?
[10:32] <jcarter> supposedly norton disconnects everyone
[10:32] <jcarter> though on #kubuntu i doubt it would do much
[10:33] <me2win> lol
[10:33] <me2win> dont do it
[10:33] <robotgeek> rysiek|pl: grep FONT /boot/config-`uname -r`
[10:33] <me2win> it doesnt work on here
[10:33] <me2win> and you get banned immediately
[10:33] <freeze> how can i install kde on ubuntu?
[10:33] <jcarter> kthx :P
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> robotgeek: thx
[10:34] <jjesse> freeze: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <freeze> how?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop
[10:34] <me2win> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <me2win> beat me to it...
[10:34] <jjesse> grin
[10:34] <me2win> !lart rysiek|pl
[10:35] <jjesse> ouch
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> I was first, you hadn't had a typo
[10:35] <freeze> its impossible to found package kubunu-desktop
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> try copying that: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> beware of typos
[10:36] <freeze> the same thing
[10:36] <heinkel_111> kubuntu not kubunu
[10:36] <me2win> probably have to enable universe/multiverse
[10:37] <freeze> what can i do?
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> !universe
[10:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> freeze: read the above ^^^
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> d'oh
[10:38] <jcarter> how do i get to keyboard shortcuts?
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> huh?
[10:38] <Snake__> rysiek|pl: she shouldnt need uni or multi to get kubuntu-desktop
[10:38] <me2win> jcarter, uhhhh
[10:38] <me2win> !shortcuts
[10:38] <Snake__> jcarter: kcontrol, accessiblity, keyboard shortcuts
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> Snake_: yeah, I think so too
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> after giving it a second thought, that is
[10:39] <Snake__> rysiek|pl: He* rather
[10:39] <Snake__> jcarter: see it?
[10:39] <jerware> fellaz
[10:39] <jcarter> no
[10:39] <jcarter> what's kcontrol?
[10:39] <Snake__> jcarter: press alt+f2
[10:39] <jcarter> i've never used KDE
[10:39] <jerware> can someone help me with my syntax for the ifconfig utility   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4sawV234.html
[10:39] <Snake__> jcarter: then type kcontrol, and run it
[10:39] <jcarter> gotcha
[10:39] <me2win> jerware, sure lets see
[10:40] <robotgeek> jcarter: K-Menu- > System Settings -> Regiional and Accessibility
[10:40] <Snake__> robotgeek: I dont have system settings in my kmenu >.<
[10:40] <robotgeek> jerware: you have default splet wrong
[10:40] <jcarter> got it
[10:40] <jcarter> thanks
[10:40] <me2win> defualt
[10:40] <me2win> hehe
[10:40] <jerware> aaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!
[10:40] <jerware> thanx fellaz
[10:40] <jerware> darrrr
[10:40] <jerware> haha
[10:41] <me2win> !lart jerware
[10:41] <robotgeek> Snake__: hmm, okies. kcontrol then
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> those damn typos :)
[10:41] <jerware> hehe!
[10:41] <Snake__> robotgeek: thats weird
[10:41] <Snake__> lol
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> !lart me2win
[10:41] <jerware> should  i use the gw keyword ?
[10:41] <robotgeek> !coc
[10:41] <ubotu> from memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:41] <me2win> lol
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> me2win: are you having a problem with !lart, or what? :)
[10:41] <me2win> lol
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> hmmm... tempting...
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> ah, what the hell! :] 
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> !lart ubotu
[10:42] <robotgeek> lol
[10:42] <Snake__> LOL
[10:42] <me2win> LOL
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> ROFLMAO
[10:42] <Snake__> OWNED
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> yep, agreed :)
[10:42] <jerware> alright!!  no i can proceed
[10:42] <me2win> lolz
[10:43] <jcarter> what's the shortcut for cycle through tabs
[10:43] <jcarter> it's ctrl+tab usually
[10:43] <jcarter> but now it's just for oh-so-useless desktop switching
[10:44] <nuky> hey, if i have ubuntu installed already, and it's a fresh installation, is there a way for me to convert it to a kubuntu installation? is it just the kubuntu-desktop that i have to install?
[10:44] <Blissex> jcarter: it can be also 'CTRL-] ' (e.g. Konversation) or SHIFT-=> (e.g. Konsole).
[10:44] <rysiek|pl> yep
[10:44] <rysiek|pl> nuky: only the kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <rysiek|pl> that's all you need... or at least the ubuntu guys spread such gossip
[10:45] <rysiek|pl> (I never liked them GNOME'aniacs anywayz ;) )
[10:45] <jcarter> blissex: ctrl]  doesn't work for me right now
[10:45] <Snake__> rysiek|pl: tiyr right ;)
[10:45] <Snake__> err
[10:45] <Snake__> your*
[10:45] <nuky> rysiek|pl: thanks :)
[10:46] <rysiek|pl> a nice one, I must say, Snake__ :)
[10:46] <rysiek|pl> nuky, nop :)
[10:46] <Blissex> jcarter: you can easily make it work -- KDE programs  usually have a nice 'Setting:Configure Shortcuts' facility
[10:46] <Snake__> jcarter: in konsole, use Shift+Left (or Right)
[10:46] <rysiek|pl> WHOA! that's a nice one!
[10:46] <rysiek|pl> dodn't know that :)
[10:47] <matchthis> these need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[10:47] <jcarter> i see, thanks guys
[10:48] <Snake|Food> Ill be back
[10:48] <me2win> lol
[10:48] <me2win> snake food
[10:57] <nuky> when you're installing kubuntu, is it ok to make just the root a primary partition and the others (home, swap and var) as logical?
[10:57] <avu> sure
[10:58] <trappist> I like to make /opt its own partition too
[10:58] <avu> kubuntu does not use /opt
[10:58] <trappist> and put statically compiled stuff, and windows stuff for wine, there, to keep between distros/versions
[10:58] <Blissex> trappist: the less partitions the better usually, with the reservation that '/' should be in its own partition.
[10:59] <trappist> avu: afaik no part of the distro actually does, but a lot of 3rd party packages do
[10:59] <trappist> Blissex: depends on your goal
[10:59] <Blissex> trappist: but what you describe is not a bad idea after all.
[10:59] <Blissex> trappist: but a bit elaborate a scheme for newbies...
[10:59] <avu> trappist: hm, ok, I always use /usr/local for such stuff
[11:00] <trappist> avu: yeah but /usr/local is where stuff you compile yourself goes, that may not be binary-compatible with the next distro/release you install
[11:00] <avu> trappist: ah, well, I don't change distros that often so that problem hasn't really hit me yet. Still, you are right, of course.
[11:01] <trappist> so I put my fonts, wine stuff, vmware stuff and games like ut2004 and quake4 in /opt and never worry about installing them again
[11:01] <trappist> avu: even without changing distros you're probably going to lose binary compatibility with release upgrades
[11:01] <trappist> e.g. when dapper comes out
[11:01] <trappist> next month :)
[11:02] <avu> trappist: never happend to me. but then I don't install oss software without checkinstall, so in fact my /usr/local looks pretty much like your /opt I guess
[11:02] <nuky> thanks.. and 5gb for root is ok? i read on a forum suggesting 10gb but that seems excessive.. i'm not sure though cos my current installation is on a tiny hdd
[11:02] <avu> trappist: I am already running dapper ;)
[11:02] <matchthis> these need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[11:02] <avu> trappist: checkinstall + --prefix=/usr that is
[11:03] <robotgeek> matchthis: use kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:04] <trappist> robotgeek: he's been doing that on all the channels for a while.  do you have a @ to clobber him with?
[11:04] <robotgeek> trappist: i have a @ , yes. if he does it again
[11:05] <trappist> he's got a zillion different nicks, all Cam@209.91.114.236
[11:06] <robotgeek> trappist: my irssi will take care of that :)
[11:07] <avu> :)
[11:07] <robotgeek> trappist: ^^
[11:07] <trappist> robotgeek: k-lined :)
[11:08] <trappist> seveas and I snitched in ##bookmark
[11:12] <kroisis> trying to install kubuntu on a virginal ubunto, what's the correct apt-get syntax from command line?
[11:12] <kroisis> ubuntu*
[11:12] <Snake__> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> nope, it's: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[11:13] <Snake__> rysiek|pl: I assumed he would know to do sudo...
[11:14] <kroisis> Snake__, assuming that must be done from a sudo, I'm getting a "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" error...any ideas?
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> I learned not to make any assuptions - if he would know, he would know why and when *not* to use sudo :)
[11:14] <kroisis> Snake__,  I appreciate the help
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> kroisis: sudo apt-get update
[11:15] <kroisis> rysiek|pl, w/o it one cannot get a lock, I tried the initial approach first prior to the sudo
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> and then: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <kroisis> rysiek|pl, thanks
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> kroisis: yep, correct, that's why I always prefer to include sudo in the command
[11:16] <rysiek|pl> when I'm giving advice on #kubuntu
[11:17] <kroisis> still getting the "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <kroisis> " error....
[11:17] <robotgeek> kroisis: do you have a internet repository?
[11:18] <robotgeek> if you only have cdrom line, that will not work
[11:18] <ryanakca> how do you access your bios? I've tried hitting delete at boot up to no avail...
[11:18] <kroisis> robotgeek, unsure what you mean by respository, mut one be assigned in a configuration?
[11:18] <me2win> ryanakca, sometimes its F2
[11:18] <kroisis> ryanakca, depends on the mother board
[11:18] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell kroisis about repos
[11:19] <kroisis> ryanakca, do you know the type of motherboard?
[11:19] <ryanakca> kroisis: aye... its IBM, with a P3... would that help?
[11:19] <ryanakca> I can go check if its written on it...
[11:19] <ryanakca> where would it be written?
[11:20] <kroisis> ryanakca, actual IBM? or do you mean 'pc'
[11:20] <ryanakca> when I boot up, it gives me a screen saying IBM (in blue)
[11:20] <kroisis> ryanakca, what model IBM?
[11:20] <ryanakca> umm.. just a sec, I'll go check...
[11:20] <kroisis> not motherboard, what model machine....
[11:21] <ryanakca> kroisis: IBM Netvidia
[11:22] <ryanakca> Kroisis Nvidia I mean
[11:22] <kroisis> ryanakca, http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic20188.html
[11:23] <kroisis> check the IBM section below on it
[11:23] <Robert17> Evening all
[11:23] <me2win> yo
[11:24] <Robert17> might be trying Kubuntu on my laptop soon, thought I'd see who was about on IRC :)
[11:25] <Robert17> moving from Windows XP
[11:28] <me2win> heh
[11:28] <me2win> nice
[11:28] <me2win> there are alot more people on ubuntu
[11:28] <me2win> but
[11:28] <Snake__> Kubuntu is better.
[11:28] <Snake__> :P
[11:28] <me2win> some people are on 4 diff kubuntu/ubuntu chats
[11:28] <me2win> but yeah, i agree with Snake__ Kubuntu is MUCH better :P
[11:29] <Robert17> I've used the LiveCD as a tester
[11:29] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu/Kubuntu is the same damn thing...
[11:29] <Robert17> so I'm now downloading thr DVD
[11:29] <rysiek|pl> ok, guys, gotta go
[11:29] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[11:29] <Robert17> byee
[11:29] <Robert17> I'm sure I'll have lots of Qs soon :p
[11:29] <kroisis> ryanakca, that get you in?
[11:30] <kroisis> HymnToLife, maybe, but the ubuntu doesn't have an option to change to kde
[11:30] <me2win> Robert17, cya
[11:30] <Snake__> HymnToLife: Nut uh
[11:30] <Robert17> laters
[11:30] <HymnToLife> kroisis> and what the hell is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:31] <Marrs> ;)
[11:31] <Snake__> HymnToLife: Kubuntu has Linus backed KDE! :P
[11:32] <HymnToLife> I know (I'm a KDE user too), but I still think the difference Ubuntu/Kubuntu is totally artificial
[11:32] <me2win> Snake__, dont say that too loud, i got bant for pasting that quote lolz
[11:32] <Snake__> lol me2win
[11:33] <me2win> i pasted it in ubuntu-offtopic and got banned from that one and ubuntu both lol
[11:33] <Snake__> LOL
[11:33] <Snake__> me2win: they are gnome users
[11:33] <me2win> for "trolling"
[11:33] <Snake__> go figure
[11:33] <me2win> yeh
[11:33] <me2win> i was like wtf im not trolling
[11:33] <me2win> i just pasted a quote
[11:33] <me2win> i didnt even paste the quote
[11:33] <Snake__> Did you fight the ban?
[11:33] <me2win> i pasted the URL to the quote
[11:33] <Snake__>  /get unbanned?
[11:34] <Snake__> OH NO
[11:34] <Snake__> Im sorry!
[11:34] <Snake__> lol
[11:34] <me2win> lol
[11:34] <HymnToLife> me2win> and what was the use of posting it ?
[11:34] <me2win> HymnToLife, i pasted it to mindspin
[11:34] <HymnToLife> apart from starting another holy flamewar ?
[11:34] <me2win> i wasnt trying to start a war
[11:34] <me2win> i was talking with mindspin about kde and gnome
[11:34] <me2win> a few hours before
[11:34] <me2win> so i found it and i pasted it to him
[11:34] <HymnToLife> well, guess you'd better have used PMs ;)
[11:35] <me2win> HymnToLife, i didnt think i was gonna get banned for trolling for pasting a url
[11:35] <HymnToLife> yeah really it's weird
[11:35] <HymnToLife> I bet you anything it was Seveas
[11:35] <Snake__> Yep
[11:36] <me2win> LOL
[11:36] <Snake__> lol
[11:36] <me2win> it WAS
[11:36] <Snake__> HAHA
[11:36] <me2win> haha
[11:36] <me2win> thats very funny how you guessed that
[11:37] <HymnToLife> well
[11:37] <me2win> but i got nothing against him either way, i think he lifted the ban
[11:37] <me2win> cuz i can get in/out now of those chans
[11:37] <Snake__> me2win: bans are ususally lifted after 2 hours usually
[11:37] <me2win> Snake__, oh
[11:39] <brandon> can anyone help me with my sound?
[11:39] <verden> i'm running the 64bit version and was wondering if i can install java?
[11:39] <brandon> can anyone help me with my sound? please?
[11:40] <me2win> brandon, whats up
[11:40] <Blissex> verden: you can.
[11:40] <robotgeek> verden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64
[11:40] <verden> thanx
[11:41] <Snake__> robotgeek: and his links... lol
[11:41] <brandon> hey, i dont get any sound. i have a sound blaster live! card and when i go to see what my setting are on it says soundblaster (unknown) i have tryed everything i know so far.
[11:41] <me2win> hhmm
[11:42] <HymnToLife> hmm
[11:42] <HymnToLife> !sound
[11:42] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:42] <HymnToLife> tried this ?
[11:42] <brandon> one sec
[11:46] <buzinutu> up an ubunutu tree first time
[11:47] <buzinutu> mamee me like muchos exus my French
[11:47] <me2win> ?
[11:49] <hara__> lo
[11:49] <hara__> is there a channel for kubuntu gamers?
[11:49] <hara__> or may i just ask my game related questions here?
[11:50] <me2win> is it cedega related?
[11:50] <hara__> no, native linux, quake 3
[11:51] <brandon> lol nothing works!!! lol any suggestions?
[11:53] <dev_null> I have had kubuntu installed for about a month and I keep having problems with my sound card.  It is a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97.  The problem is that i can be listening to music and suddenly the sound will pop and cut out.  A reboot will fix the problem but is there a way I can restart the sound driver without a reboot?
[11:53] <brandon> lol your lucky i cant even get sound to work
[11:54] <robotgeek> dev_null: alt + f2, kcontrol , Sound , Restart sound server
[11:56] <dev_null> robotgeek: I am in kcontroil but I don't see a way to restart the sound system in there.  I am in the sound tree
[11:57] <robotgeek> dev_null: click on test sound
[11:57] <dev_null> i did
[11:57] <dev_null> no change
[11:58] <robotgeek> hmm, that should restart your sound server
[11:58] <robotgeek> dev_null: sorry, i am not sure about sound issues
[11:58] <dev_null> robotgeek: thanks for trying to help, I'll just reboot to get my sound
[11:59] <brandon> hahahahhaha!!!! success!!! sound works!!!
[11:59] <dev_null> which I know is not a good long term solution
[11:59] <robotgeek> dev_null: you should look for bugs, and file one
[11:59] <dev_null> brandon: what did you do?
[11:59] <dev_null> robotgeek: i am not sure if it is a bug or something I have done wrong (which is more probablable)
[12:00] <brandon> when to the site you ppl told me and did it lol i messed up when i did it but then re did the directions and now it works!!
[12:00] <robotgeek> dev_null: hmm, look for bugs nonetheless
[12:00] <brandon> thanx!!!
[12:00] <dev_null> robotgeek: i'll report it
[12:00] <dev_null> thanks
[12:00] <conn> does anyone here have intel extreme graphics? I'm looking for feedback on whether or not the DRI snapshots work properly
[12:03] <angasule> !wma
[12:03] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats