[12:00] <goodboy> and how i can working whiht it in linux ozrg
[12:00] <zielony> How can I mount bin image files ?
[12:00] <flux___> goodboy, try http://www.winehq.com
[12:00] <mwe> Phoul: I can make one quickly :)
[12:00] <Phoul> mwe
[12:00] <Phoul> Can i pm you?
[12:00] <mwe> Phoul: all right
[12:00] <goodboy> thanks flux
[12:00] <ozrg> flux___: yes goodboy, try winehq.com
[12:00] <goodboy> thanks u  to all
[12:01] <goodboy> :)
[12:01] <LordMelkor> how can i up boost my mic sensitivity?
[12:01] <flux___> goodboy, apt-get install wine
[12:01] <goodboy> i will traying this links
[12:01] <Kr4t05> Er...
[12:01] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to set system time via the terminal?
[12:01] <LordMelkor> the +20 dB option isnt enough
[12:01] <selinium> qpalzm, did you get the invite?
[12:01] <Phoul> LordMelkor, you have kmix?
[12:01] <LordMelkor> Phoul: dont know what that is so i assume no
[12:01] <halfbakedntx> LordMelkor: is it one of those cheapo $5 mics?
[12:01] <ozrg> goodboy: no french, this is strictly english only. lol
[12:02] <halfbakedntx> LordMelkor: Might just need a better quality Mic
[12:02] <ufo> Kr4t05, date -s
[12:02] <LordMelkor> halfbakedntx: pretty much, but it worked really well with windows
[12:02] <goodboy> ok ozrg
[12:02] <ufo> Kr4t05, look man date
[12:02] <Crete> I am a complete newb in every way
[12:02] <goodboy> i will traying it
[12:02] <flux___> you have a man date?
[12:02] <halfbakedntx> Well Cheap OSes work great with Cheap Hardware LOL .. Probably had native win drivers with it to boost it
[12:02] <Crete> Anyone have any advice for meh?
[12:02] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> recodring with which app ?
[12:03] <ozrg> can someone tell me why i cannot install ubuntu on my partition's. it says something about searchign hdd?
[12:03] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: im checking with the Recording Level app
[12:03] <flux___> Crete, play
[12:03] <LordMelkor> but its really soft for the sound recorder too
[12:03] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> maybe try with another
[12:03] <Crete> heh thanks Flux
[12:03] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife its really soft for all apps ive tried
[12:03] <HymnToLife> Audacity for exampl
[12:03] <Misterslurpey> its not working
[12:03] <HymnToLife> damn
[12:04] <HymnToLife> ozrg> sata ?
[12:04] <LordMelkor> i mainly want it for Voice over IP
[12:04] <LordMelkor> but no one can hear me
[12:04] <flux___> huh?
[12:04] <eXIstenZ> what is the link for installing java?
[12:04] <LordMelkor> and then i checked with Sound Recorder and Recording level but its really quiet
[12:04] <HymnToLife> !java
[12:04] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:04] <halfbakedntx> LordMelkor: They want hear you if they all have you on ignore... lol   jk
[12:04] <halfbakedntx> er wont
[12:04] <ozrg> HymnToLife: no, i connet it with IDE
[12:04] <ozrg> connect*
[12:05] <LordMelkor> eXIstenZ: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[12:05] <HymnToLife> ozrg> ant at which moment exactly do you hve the error (and what exactly does it say) ?
[12:05] <halfbakedntx> LordMelkor: I had a cheapo Mic and it sucked even w/WinXP.. bought a $25 mic and it works great
[12:05] <HymnToLife> can you run the partitioner at all ?
[12:05] <Phoul> halfbakedntx, what kind of mic?
[12:05] <eXIstenZ> Can anyone recommend me a good CD Burning program?
[12:06] <HymnToLife> eXIstenZ> k3b
[12:06] <halfbakedntx> Phoul: Logitec
[12:06] <Phoul> Im using a M20 microphone it works good but i still need audio gain n shit to make it less quiet
[12:06] <Phoul> Nice
[12:06] <flux___> k3b is kde
[12:06] <Phoul> Im buying one soon this one is on its way out i think
[12:06] <ufo> eXIstenZ, graveman is something you could try
[12:06] <LordMelkor> halfbakedntx: no comp store nearby so its a pain to go out and buy one (or wait for one ordered online) and this mic worked great with Win98 so i figure i wanna use what i have
[12:06] <HymnToLife> so what ?
[12:06] <ozrg> HymnToLife: right at the beginning when i restart the pc and put the cd in. it says; search for USB HDD devices.
[12:06] <HymnToLife> It's still the best burning app on linux
[12:06] <ufo> k3b is good
[12:06] <halfbakedntx> LordMelkor: Hrm yeah I dunno what to tell you..
[12:06] <ParaSiteXY> does anyone knows an alternative ftp-client? I am using gftp right now, but it seems that it does not copy folders.
[12:06] <flux___> eXIstenZ, GnomeBaker
[12:07] <HymnToLife> ozrg> external CD drive ?
[12:07] <LordMelkor> Phoul: what does kmix do
[12:07] <ozrg> HymnToLife: i have none.
[12:07] <HymnToLife> no f***ing way
[12:07] <HymnToLife> gnomebacker sucks ass
[12:07] <halfbakedntx> Ok I gotta get back to work :(  Cheers all
[12:07] <HymnToLife> ozrg> then try disabling the USB boot in your BIOs
[12:07] <LordMelkor> k3b is like the Nero of linux
[12:07] <ufo> ParaSiteXY, do you use gnome?
[12:07] <Ryan_is_here> hey
[12:07] <HymnToLife> yeah
[12:07] <ParaSiteXY> ufo yes
[12:07] <Ryan_is_here> ok i have a big problem
[12:07] <Phoul> LordMelkor, if your on kde it has the sound gain
[12:07] <ozrg> ok.
[12:07] <HymnToLife> really, k3b is a million times better than GB
[12:08] <Ryan_is_here> i installed a new video card that seems to be working fine with my windows
[12:08] <LordMelkor> Phoul: is there an equivalent for gnome?
[12:08] <Ryan_is_here> but ubuntu wont load the graphical interface
[12:08] <flux___> HymnToLife, i wouldn't know, i use the console
[12:08] <Phoul> gmix
[12:08] <Ryan_is_here> can anyone help me
[12:08] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> you _can_ install it on gnome
[12:08] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I thougt Nero for Linux was the Nero for Linux?
[12:08] <ufo> you could connect with places--->network location or something
[12:08] <ParaSiteXY> ufo: why did you asked?
[12:08] <ttread> Ryan_is_here, what's your card?
[12:08] <HymnToLife> flux___> how do you burn CDs then ?
[12:08] <Ryan_is_here> radeon 9600
[12:08] <jetscreamer> why would anybody buy nero for linux, just out of curiosity
[12:09] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Ok that was sarcastic and troll-like I am sorry
[12:09] <iReALLyGotNoTime> K3b is quite good :)
[12:09] <HymnToLife> iReALLyGotNoTime> the nero for linux is even worse than the nautilus builtin burner
[12:09] <polpak> Phoul, did you still want a screeny?
[12:09] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LOL
[12:09] <Psykus> k3b is for kde, right?
[12:09] <LordMelkor> iReALLyGotNoTime it was just a comparison its not really nero
[12:09] <Phoul> polpak, yes
[12:09] <flux___> HymnToLife, man cdrecord
[12:09] <ttread> !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:09] <jetscreamer> k3b is for anything
[12:09] <Psykus> oh
[12:09] <Phoul> pm me please because its hard to keep up with this convo
[12:09] <jetscreamer> you'll need some kde libs to go with it
[12:09] <Psykus> i figured with the "K", it might be made for kde
[12:09] <jetscreamer> but they come by theirselves
[12:09] <HymnToLife> flux___> if I remeber well
[12:10] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LordMelkor, I knew it, I was out of place trying to be funny :) bad choice of sarcasm :)
[12:10] <HymnToLife> k3b uses cdrecord
[12:10] <jetscreamer> yeah it was origially
[12:10] <jetscreamer> or so
[12:10] <Ryan_is_here> where do i paste that to use it
[12:10] <ttread> Ryan_is_here, check that wiki link
[12:10] <jetscreamer> still is, but you can run it w/o having a full blown kde install
[12:10] <HymnToLife> Psykus> it is
[12:10] <LordMelkor> iReALLyGotNoTime sarcasm is so hard to detect in online chat -__-
[12:10] <HymnToLife> but KDE apps run very well on Gnome and vice versa
[12:10] <eXIstenZ> Can anyone link me to a good sources.list list?
[12:10] <ttread> Ryan_is_here, open it in a www browser
[12:10] <Psykus> oh ok
[12:10] <Ryan_is_here> ok
[12:11] <Ryan_is_here> one second
[12:11] <Psykus> grabbing it off of apt-get now
[12:11] <HymnToLife> eXIstenZ> here's mine : "An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU Emacs would never make a good program... except for MS Paint, of course. That's a keeper."
[12:11] <Psykus> oh how I love apt-get
[12:11] <HymnToLife> damn
[12:11] <HymnToLife> c/p error
[12:11] <HymnToLife> http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list
[12:11] <Ryan_is_here> thanks ttread
[12:11] <maxkelley> say, how would I set up bind to point one.craplandia.be to a certain compy on my lan, and two.craplandia.be to another one ?
[12:11] <Ryan_is_here> ill give that a shot
[12:11] <ttread> ok Ryan_is_here, yw
[12:11] <maxkelley> they're both running on the same external IP...
[12:12] <maxkelley> is it even possible?
[12:12] <HymnToLife> it is
[12:12] <maxkelley> how
[12:12] <HymnToLife> if you bought a domain name which allows subdomains
[12:12] <HymnToLife> I don't know how though :/
[12:12] <maxkelley> creating an A record that points to 192.168.x.y ?
[12:12] <maxkelley> i have a domain name.. the craplandia.be one.
[12:13] <wickers> HymnToLife, any domain 'supports' subdomains...
[12:13] <Kr4t05> That man page for date makes no sence to me. :/
[12:13] <maxkelley> all you have to do is configure them :)
[12:13] <LordMelkor> kmix or gmix doesnt seem to be in the repos... so i got xmix.... lol hopefully it will do what i want it to
[12:13] <wickers> subdomain support is on the host level. Not domain level.
[12:13] <maxkelley> sillywabbit..
[12:13] <Kr4t05> Can someone tell me exactly how I set the date to 'Thu Mar 9 10:05:35 2006'?
[12:13] <HymnToLife> wickers> I know some domain name services who don't
[12:13] <HymnToLife> you just have www.yourdomain.com and that's all
[12:13] <wickers> HymnToLife, you know of some hosts that don't...
[12:14] <HymnToLife> well maybe
[12:14] <maxkelley> www is a subdomain of yourdomain.com
[12:14] <Jarigo> hey, is dapper okay to use?
[12:14] <HymnToLife> I'm not very much into it
[12:14] <maxkelley> did you know *that*?
[12:14] <maxkelley> Jarigo: sure :)
[12:14] <selinium> qp
[12:14] <flux___> Kr4t05, australian?
[12:14] <Jarigo> maxkelley, how do i try it?
[12:14] <selinium> qpqp
[12:14] <Jarigo> !dapper
[12:14] <HymnToLife> given I'm on dialup, such things are quite useless for me :D
[12:14] <sistema> espaol
[12:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[12:14] <maxkelley> it's pretty stable, or so I've heard
[12:14] <heyjoe2> hey, can anyone tell me some commands to make my system start up quicker. it seems to be stalling on the raid devices part
[12:14] <Kr4t05> flux___: The server I'm connecting to is.
[12:14] <sistema> hablan espaol aqui
[12:14] <HymnToLife> !es
[12:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:14] <Kr4t05> flux___: And the goofy IRCd's need to have the same system time.
[12:15] <heyjoe2> someone told me some earlier and it worked, but now its taking a while again
[12:15] <flux___> man date ?
[12:15] <flux___> lol
[12:15] <wickers> HymnToLife, any request you send to sub.domain.com first goes to domain.com then it gets sorted out by local DNS servers... it's host related.
[12:15] <Kr4t05> flux___: Read it, I didn't get it. :/
[12:15] <Seveas> wickers, not completely true
[12:16] <wickers> Segarra, but for the sake of simplicity..
[12:16] <wickers> err...
[12:16] <wickers> Seveas, I meant.
[12:16] <wickers> ^^
[12:16] <Seveas> 
[12:16] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with making my bootup quicker?
[12:17] <flux___> Kr4t05,  date -d "Thu Mar 9 10:11:08 EST 2006"
[12:17] <wickers> I mean to say that it's set first on the host level... how  it trickles down the DNS path is a different story.
[12:17] <maxkelley> ohmygod  i love that smiley.
[12:17] <eXIstenZ> How can I install flash for firefox 1.5?
[12:18] <Kr4t05> flux___: You rock! :)
[12:18] <wickers> 
[12:18] <FLSimpsonKPT> how do you install wine??
[12:18] <flux___> Kr4t05, wait,... -s not -d
[12:18] <wickers> Seveas, what's the hex unicode for that again?
[12:18] <wickers> the smilie
[12:18] <Seveas> no idea
[12:18] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: you should be able to go to a site with flash, click "click here to install plugins" and go through that
[12:18] <rem__> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:18] <HymnToLife> !tell FLSimpsonKPT about wine
[12:18] <epsilon5> #greece
[12:18] <Seveas> I use xchats auto-replace and have forgotten the code
[12:18] <wickers> lol
[12:18] <kevjava> put this in your sources.list:  ' deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/'
[12:19] <eXIstenZ> maxkelley, it says that installation failed, I don't know why.
[12:19] <wickers>  wonders
[12:19] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: O RLY?!?
[12:19] <cocas> hello every body
[12:19] <maxkelley> !flash
[12:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:19] <HymnToLife> !tell cocas about hello
[12:19] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: ^^
[12:20] <maxkelley> we have an about-hello message?
[12:20] <maxkelley> are you freaking kidding me?
[12:20] <HymnToLife> yeah
[12:20] <maxkelley> !hello
[12:20] <ubotu> Hi, maxkelley!
[12:20] <HymnToLife> !hello
[12:20] <maxkelley> oh :)
[12:20] <maxkelley> hehe
[12:20] <flux___> !tell flux___ about hello
[12:20] <maxkelley> niice
[12:20] <wickers> !hello
[12:20] <maxkelley> helawo!
[12:20] <eXIstenZ> maxkelley, what rss reader do you use
[12:20] <cocas> :q
[12:20] <wickers> I'm not feeling the bot hello love. :(
[12:20] <goodboy> i m finished to downloed wine
[12:20] <goodboy> what i do now
[12:20] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: liferea, when I need it.
[12:20] <wickers> !hello
[12:20] <ubotu> Hi, wickers!
[12:20] <wickers> there we go
[12:20] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: I don't use feeds too much
[12:20] <LordMelkor> how can i get RealPlay10 to play streaming realmedia files for firefox... right now mplayer plays them but doesnt work most of the time
[12:21] <goodboy> who to instal it
[12:21] <blanky> guys, anyone know how to install the new gnome
[12:21] <wickers> LordMelkor, do you have realplayer 10 installed?
[12:21] <maxkelley> goodboy: where'd you download it from?
[12:21] <eletido> I like using Thunderbird's news reader. it works well for me.
[12:21] <kevjava> eXIstenZ: try EasyUbuntu:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:21] <goodboy> how*
[12:21] <wickers> actually brb... gotta feed the dog
[12:21] <maxkelley> goodboy: yeah, where did you download it from?
[12:21] <HymnToLife> !tell godboy about wine
[12:21] <LordMelkor> wickers: yes
[12:21] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Does anyone know of an IRC widget here?
[12:22] <HymnToLife> goodboy> see the link ubotu gave you
[12:22] <maxkelley> HymnToLife: heh.. I guess you are religious :)
[12:22] <maxkelley> godboy? :P
[12:22] <maxkelley> harhar.
[12:22] <HymnToLife> not at all
[12:22] <flux___> goodboy, sudo apt-get install wine
[12:22] <maxkelley> HymnToLife: k, then why did you call him godboy? :P
[12:22] <HymnToLife> because of a typo I guess
[12:22] <maxkelley> hehe
[12:23] <maxkelley> i figured you'd catch that and re-send it to him before I had to pester you to death :)
[12:23] <LordMelkor> Phoul: what do i set to have volume gain for my mic in kmix?
[12:23] <maxkelley> oh well, pestering is fun :)
[12:23] <Phoul> LordMelkor, you just add it
[12:23] <LordMelkor> Phoul: i mean which bar do i move :-p
[12:23] <kevjava> goodboy: put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list: 'deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/'.
[12:23] <iReALLyGotNoTime> #gdesklet
[12:24] <iReALLyGotNoTime> wow
[12:24] <goodboy> when i compile glib he telling me configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:24] <goodboy> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:24] <Phoul> LordMelkor, none you go to the end and turn on mic gain
[12:24] <LordMelkor> oh
[12:24] <Phoul> Or if you want to move bars just do that
[12:24] <goodboy> what mean that
[12:24] <Phoul> But i dont know which for sure
[12:24] <kevjava> goodboy: Then 'apt-get upgrade && apt-get install wine'
[12:24] <bimberi> goodboy: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:24] <Razor-X> goo
[12:24] <goodboy> i read config.log but nothing there
[12:24] <kevjava> Sorry, s/upgrade/update
[12:24] <Razor-X> goodboy: ``sudo aptitude install build-essential''
[12:24] <Razor-X> Heh, bimberi beat me to it.
[12:25] <bimberi> Razor-X: looks like you tripped :)
[12:25] <Razor-X> kevjava: WINE for a C compiler?!
[12:25] <markk> I'm officially going out of my mind
[12:25] <LordMelkor> Phoul: Oh this... its already enabled.. i enabled that with the default volume controller... it helps somewhat but i need even more gain :-/
[12:25] <markk> I need some help here
[12:25] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with getting ubuntu to boot quicker? please?
[12:25] <Phoul> LordMelkor, best bet?
[12:25] <Phoul> Buy a new mic
[12:25] <kevjava> Razor-X: Was referring to an earlier query, apologies.
[12:25] <maxkelley> markk: shoot, me friend!
[12:25] <heyjoe2> simple question?
[12:25] <shiv> I get this error when I start bibus. Database error dbBib.getRoot: ('no such table: bibrefKey',)
[12:25] <Razor-X> kevjava: Ah.
[12:25] <LordMelkor> :(
[12:25] <goodboy> it is programe for paltalk
[12:25] <maxkelley> markk: well, don't shoot me, shoot.. your question.
[12:25] <goodboy> site web
[12:26] <Phoul> >.>
[12:26] <ahave> IRC widget or desklets sounds like a nice idea, if anyone knows about it
[12:26] <_trick> Can anyone recommend a guide for migrating a small bussiness from windows to linux?
[12:26] <markk> Well, I installed Ubuntu on friday, and it all went quite smooth and fast
[12:26] <polpak> heyjoe2, are you on a laptop?
[12:26] <goodboy> but i havnt links now
[12:26] <maxkelley> goodboy: is english your native language?
[12:26] <markk> but we tried to install a second OS on the hard drive (2nd partition) and screwed it up
[12:26] <iReALLyGotNoTime> ahave, that's what I am saying!
[12:26] <markk> and so, we deleted everything, and installed ubuntu again
[12:26] <markk> now, on the first install, I could play America's army
[12:26] <maxkelley> hmm
[12:27] <maxkelley> install the second OS first, then ubuntu
[12:27] <goodboy> Name: glib-2.10.1
[12:27] <maxkelley> try that.
[12:27] <Razor-X> Can someone ping6 irc6.rizon.net to tell me if it's up?
[12:27] <maxkelley> Razor-X: sure.
[12:27] <markk> it played very nice and fast, after I switched to the 3d driver
[12:27] <Xeronic> where to get esddsp?
[12:27] <goodboy> no
[12:27] <LordMelkor> W00T
[12:27] <markk> now, with the second install, it played so slow that it's unplayable
[12:27] <maxkelley> Razor-X: unknown-host
[12:27] <markk> and the compuer seemed slow
[12:27] <_trick> Razor-X, unknown host
[12:27] <goodboy> but i can understand freansh beter than english
[12:27] <LordMelkor> it worked! i had to increase "capture" and here you all had me thinking i had to go buy new stuff
[12:28] <maxkelley> markk: install the second OS first, then ubuntu.
[12:28] <maxkelley> goodboy: freanish?
[12:28] <markk> so, I eventually deleted that install and did a full reinstall all over again...  and it is STILL slow
[12:28] <markk> the only thing on the drive is ubuntu
[12:28] <goodboy> frensh
[12:28] <shiv_> I really need help on this : I get this error when I start bibus. Database error dbBib.getRoot: ('no such table: bibrefKey',) Any help?
[12:28] <goodboy> frencais
[12:28] <maxkelley> goodboy: oh, french. try #ubuntu-fr
[12:28] <maxkelley> i think that's a channel..
[12:28] <goodboy> ok thanks you
[12:28] <markk> yet, even though I've changed video drivers and so on, I cannot get the game to play.  it's still slow
[12:28] <maxkelley> !francais
[12:28] <ubotu> maxkelley: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:28] <maxkelley> pah.
[12:28] <bimberi> !fr
[12:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:28] <maxkelley> !french
[12:28] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxkelley
[12:29] <markk> something worked the first time that no longer works
[12:29] <maxkelley> yeah, goodboy, #ubuntu-fr
[12:29] <markk> and yet, it's just a default install
[12:29] <markk> with the only change being video drivers
[12:29] <markk> from default
[12:29] <maxkelley> markk: are you sure you're wiping everything on each install?
[12:29] <eXIstenZ> maxkelley, adding the java modules for firefox 1.5 is the same as 1.0.7?
[12:29] <markk> yes
[12:29] <Razor-X> _trick: Ah.
[12:29] <maxkelley> eXIstenZ: erm, not sure.. believe so.
[12:29] <markk> the drive partition is clean
[12:29] <markk> when I start
[12:30] <Razor-X> Can you also ping6 irc.ipv6.freenode.net, people who ping6'd irc6.rizon.net?
[12:30] <markk> I don't see any s trange deficiencies
[12:30] <markk> like drives not running in dma mode
[12:30] <maxkelley> Razor-X: erm, network unreachable.
[12:30] <maxkelley> Razor-X: wait, do you need an ipv6 conn?
[12:30] <markk> yet, framerate in AA went from 33 to 8
[12:31] <markk> for all the same settings
[12:31] <maxkelley> pah, of course you do hahaha
[12:31] <Razor-X> maxkelley: Yesh :D.
[12:31] <biloyp> anyone ever use lkl (linux keylogger)
[12:31] <Razor-X> maxkelley: Yeah, I'm connected via irc.ipv6.freenode.net.
[12:31] <Razor-X> Just wondering if I need more DNS servers.
[12:32] <maxkelley> Razor-X: well, in that case, that won't work, now will it? :)
[12:32] <Razor-X> Hehe.
[12:32] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:32] <maxkelley> !flan
[12:32] <ubotu> maxkelley: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:32] <maxkelley> hah
[12:33] <sobersabre> I have an annoying thing in my gnome desktop. once per random time, esd is spawned, and it takes over my sound card. so I cannot talk via skype. ( I can talk, but cannot hear anything )
[12:33] <maxkelley> flan makes ubotu have a syntax error.. foreign puddings must turn him on...
[12:33] <maxkelley> sobersabre: killall esd
[12:33] <sobersabre> maxkelley no sh1te!
[12:33] <maxkelley> chances are, a program your are using is using esd :)
[12:33] <maxkelley> sobersabre: well then, why did you need me? :)
[12:33] <sobersabre> wow.
[12:33] <ompaul> language please
[12:33] <elkbuntu> attitude check time
[12:34] <Phoul> How do you uninstall things with ubuntu?
[12:34] <Phoul> I tried apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <Razor-X> Sorry, I found an independant IPV6 site that looked it up for me. Seems it's not there.
[12:34] <Phoul> But it didnt work
[12:34] <maxkelley> Phoul: like, is there a certain pkg you wish to uninstall?
[12:34] <Phoul> the whole thing i just installed
[12:34] <maxkelley> Phoul: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <Phoul> I very much disliked it lol
[12:34] <Razor-X> sobersabre: Most programs, including Window Managers, can use ALSA directly.
[12:34] <navarone> Phoul don't forget "sudo" in front
[12:34] <Razor-X> I, for one, find sound servers incredibly annoying.
[12:35] <maxkelley> real man use su!
[12:35] <sobersabre> Razor-X but the thing is that skype is retarded, and it uses OSS.
[12:35] <Phoul> Umm...
[12:35] <Razor-X> maxkelley: Go back to LFS, real man ;).
[12:35] <farous> Phoul: how did you install kubuntu
[12:35] <maxkelley> Razor-X: that's something linux, as a whole, has to improve on :)
[12:35] <maxkelley> Razor-X: eh? :)
[12:35] <Razor-X> sobersabre: Well, Ubuntu has an OSS->ALSA wrapper by default.
[12:35] <Phoul> farous, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <farous> for apt-get will not remove everything
[12:35] <Phoul> How do i uninstall it then
[12:35] <Razor-X> maxkelley: Linux From Scratch ;).
[12:35] <farous> Phoul: than you will need to remove all packages one at a time or look for something common to them all
[12:35] <Razor-X> sobersabre: Some of my applications refuse to play to ALSA, and play to OSS instead.
[12:36] <maxkelley> Razor-X: heh
[12:36] <Razor-X> Which is... weird, but oh well, it all works without a sound server.
[12:36] <sobersabre> Razor-X which e.g. ?
[12:36] <farous> Phoul: most probably libqt3. That if you do not want any qt appl
[12:36] <Razor-X> sobersabre: I think ogg123 is one of those that play to OSS.
[12:36] <Razor-X> But, it's wrapped to ALSA just fine.
[12:36] <spec> the new kernel breaks my ndiswrapper's BCM4306 driver *whine*
[12:37] <spec> (in dapper)
[12:37] <farous> spec same prob here too
[12:37] <Razor-X> spec: The new kernel may, by default, include some Broadcom support.
[12:37] <spec> i know the fix
[12:37] <spec> it's simple
[12:37] <IdleOne> spec check in #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <Razor-X> I, for one, disabled Broadcom support in my 2.6.15 kernel.
[12:37] <spec> i'm just bitching :p
[12:37] <biloyp> anyone know what the abbreviation for the keymap is used in USA? Ex. Italina would be "it".
[12:37] <biloyp> Italian
[12:37] <farous> lol
[12:37] <Razor-X> biloyp: ``us''
[12:37] <spec> i regressed to the older kernel (or just unload the bcm module and reload the ndiswrapper module)
[12:37] <farous> do not bitck on unstable release
[12:37] <biloyp> Razor, thx I tried that
[12:38] <Razor-X> biloyp: England is ``en''.
[12:38] <biloyp> got it Raxor-X
[12:38] <ufo> spec, or add the bcm43xx to blacklist
[12:38] <spec> err, where's this blacklist of yours?
[12:38] <spec> i thought there should be one, but i didn't know for sure, so i didnt' look :p
[12:38] <Razor-X> Ah, dapper loads broadcom as a module, huh?
[12:38] <ufo> spec, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:39] <sobersabre> Razor-X have you played with your .asoundrc ?
[12:39] <Razor-X> *Dapper
[12:39] <Razor-X> sobersabre: A bit, but only to get DMIX working.
[12:39] <maxkelley> off to das.. place.
[12:39] <spec> ufo: thanks
[12:39] <sobersabre> hm... what is DMIX... is ac'97 capable of it ?
[12:39] <spec> now i can upgrade to the new kernel and not fail miserably
[12:40] <Razor-X> sobersabre: DMIX allows you to play simeltaneous sounds.
[12:40] <spec> compiz also has a new error, but I think i'll be lazy and wait for an update
[12:40] <sobersabre> and is AC'97 codec enabled sound capable of it ?
[12:40] <Razor-X> sobersabre: It's a purely software solution.
[12:40] <mandavi> hi, with what application can i have a detailed view on a wlan signal stengh?
[12:40] <biloyp> anyone know command to make a file
[12:40] <Razor-X> Since if your card could do it via hardware, you wouldn't *need* DMIX.
[12:40] <spec> ufo: do i have to do anything else, or just add the blacklist statement?
[12:40] <spec> biloyp: touch
[12:41] <aroticoz> how can I mount virtual cd's like deamon tools in win ?
[12:41] <biloyp> thx
[12:41] <spec> aroticoz: mount -o loop /path/to/cdrom.iso /mnt/cdrom
[12:41] <aroticoz> thanks spec
[12:42] <spec> h'okay, time to reboot and see if new kernel works well
[12:43] <sobersabre> Razor-X I don't understand the www links refer to a file ~/.asoundrc... sine when shall I be able to create entry in /dev via editing ~/.asoundrc ?!?!?
[12:43] <sobersabre> s/sine/since/
[12:43] <Razor-X> sobersabre: Huh? ALSA exists already.
[12:43] <s-wx> hp: unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpiod.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 75.. no one knows about this problem? My printer was working very well  day before...
[12:43] <bowie> hello
[12:44] <bowie> i need help on nvidia dirver instalation
[12:44] <Razor-X> sobersabre: Your sound server uses ALSA.
[12:44] <IdleOne> why does installing xchat-gnome remove xchat and ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop?
[12:44] <funkyHat> sobersabre, it's only a meta-entry. programs running with different UIDS can't see it
[12:44] <ahave> anyone having problems with vmware products and X crashing?
[12:45] <ahave> could be a problem with the XFree86??
[12:45] <funkyHat> ahave, no, not had any problems with VMware server
[12:45] <bowie> is there a room for nvidia problems??
[12:45] <funkyHat> ahave, well considering you shouldn't be using XFree86...
[12:45] <Razor-X> bowie: Google should help.
[12:45] <ttread> !nvidia
[12:45] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:45] <Razor-X> bowie: Helped me. Until a new conflict closed my nVidia driver support.
[12:45] <Razor-X> Of course, I compiled a new kernel for it, and everything but, that's besides the point....
[12:46] <bowie> ok thanks
[12:46] <ahave> Welle as such I'm not, but as i understand Gnome in 5.10 is more or less based on XFree86
[12:46] <IdleOne> Razor-X>  telling ppl to Google is not an acceptable answer
[12:46] <Razor-X> IdleOne: It is, actually.
[12:46] <Razor-X> IdleOne: When something exists on Google, it's more effective to refer to it than to cite it.
[12:46] <Razor-X> Since you can see the original document, and it's scope.
[12:47] <Razor-X> Because all the information on drivers and driver patches, and what-not I remember not, and took me ages to compile together.
[12:48] <SoulPropagatio1> how do i configure the bootsplashesque thingy?
[12:48] <SoulPropagation> oops, there we go
[12:49] <Razor-X> SoulPropagation: Well... unless Ubuntu kernels support 'em by default, you're going to have to recompile your kernel.
[12:49] <bimberi> !usplash
[12:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:49] <SoulPropagation> thanks
[12:49] <mandavi> anyone knows a tool to view the wlan signal strenght in a continous mesurement?
[12:49] <bimberi> SoulPropagation: yw :)
[12:50] <biloyp> anyone ever use lkl (linux key logger) app?
[12:50] <IdleOne>     *
[12:50] <IdleOne>       Any help is appreciated of course, but you should help people solve their problems. If you get stuck, say so instead of guessing; someone else will step up and continue. There is heaps of information available on the wiki, [WWW]  in the infobot and at other places. Try to familiarize yourself with that informations. Telling people to RTFM or to "just google it" is not very polite, find them a url or at least give them some dire
[12:50] <IdleOne> ctions to documentation they can use. Do not recommend outdated and bad information such as ubuntuguide.org or bad solutions such as using install-css.sh from libdvdread, running java-installer.bin files directly or using automatix. For all these things there are much safer alternatives available.
[12:50] <IdleOne>  taken from wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[12:50] <dooglus> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[12:50] <ahave> I'll rephrase my question. Has anyone a working installation of a vmware product? And if yes, could my problem be related to a 2.6.15 kernel?
[12:50] <pppoe_dude> hi. how do i activate mouse (cursor actions) in VIM?
[12:51] <noirequus> IdleOne: why not just send folks that link?
[12:51] <bimberi> !debian
[12:51] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[12:51] <kevjava> pppoe_dude: try using gvim
[12:51] <bimberi> dooglus: ^^^^ (the last link)
[12:51] <pppoe_dude> kevjava, ok thanks
[12:51] <s-wx> hp: unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpiod.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 75.. no one knows about this problem? My printer was working very well the  day before.. I touch nothing...
[12:51] <IdleOne> noirequus> ?
[12:51] <ompaul> IdleOne, the paste :-)
[12:51] <noirequus> IdleOne: um, instead of pasting the big post, why not send folks the link instead?
[12:52] <kevjava> pppoe_dude: apt-get install vim-gtk
[12:52] <dooglus> bimberi: thanks.
[12:52] <LjL> apt-get install emacs-qt
[12:52] <Razor-X> IdleOne: Let me rephrase, IdleOne.
[12:52] <bimberi> dooglus: yw :)
[12:52] <Razor-X> Google for ``nVidia drivers''.
[12:52] <Razor-X> Since, someone had to tell *me* what to type in google the first time.
[12:52] <Razor-X> How did I expect someone else would know what to do automatically?!
[12:53] <IdleOne> noirequus>  didnt think of it figured I would just paste him the relevant part of the link ;/
[12:53] <Razor-X> :P.
[12:53] <ompaul> Razor-X, that ain't helpful, there is a wiki with that attached, you could do that
[12:53] <amgad> guys, how can i get the monitor to turn off after idle time,
[12:53] <Razor-X> ompaul: Someone else already referred him the Wiki Link.
[12:53] <amgad> i tried the screen saver power managment settings, it didn't work
[12:53] <bimberi> IdleOne: xchat and xchat-gnome conflict, so installing one removes the other and any of its dependencies.  In xchat's case those dependencies are ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <Razor-X> I was adding supplemental letters.
[12:53] <noirequus> amgad: system > prefs > screesaver > advanced tab
[12:53] <IdleOne> ompaul>  and noirequus  how did you know I pasted the entire paragraphe anyway?
[12:53] <Razor-X> *supplemental information.
[12:54] <noirequus> IdleOne: i wrote a lot of it
[12:54] <ompaul> IdleOne, its in the channel :)
[12:54] <IdleOne> hmmmmmm
[12:54] <IdleOne> it should be
[12:54] <dooglus> bimberi: xchat-gnome is a dependant of ubuntu-desktop, not the other way around.
[12:54] <dooglus> *dependancy*
[12:54] <bimberi> dooglus: breezy not dapper
[12:55] <IdleOne> I meant shouldnt
[12:55] <dooglus> bimberi: ok, xchat then.
[12:55] <amgad> noirequus, i tried it, it didn't work, any known bugs?
[12:55] <IdleOne> in any case sorry about the paste folks didnt mean it
[12:55] <ahave> What is the purpose of ubuntu-desktop anyway?
[12:55] <noirequus> amgad: none known. did you give it time?
[12:55] <ahave> I've seen no effect when removing it, and reinstalling it
[12:55] <Spec> yay :p
[12:56] <dooglus> ahave: it is a package which depends on a whole bunch of desktop apps.  installing ubuntu-desktop will make sure that all the default desktop apps are installed.
[12:56] <bimberi> !ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is probably a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[12:56] <SoapBathX606X> Hey.
[12:56] <ahave> ahh, thanks
[12:56] <amgad> noirequus, yeah, it set it to hour, found it on when i woke up, now set it 1 minute, and watched, it didnt work
[12:56] <SoapBathX606X> Whats the min specs for running Ubuntu Live CD.
[12:56] <Phoul> is there a media player that will play .asx?
[12:56] <LjL> SoapBathX606X: i don't know about the official specs, but i'd say some 200mhz and 128 megs of ram is the very very minimum
[12:57] <amgad> noirequus, does it related to running video on the disktop, i am running tvtime..
[12:57] <ahave> !ubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <ubotu> well, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[12:57] <noirequus> amgad: i have no idea.
[12:57] <dooglus> ahave: for instance, if and when you upgrade to dapper, the only reason the upgrade process will know to install xchat-gnome is because the new ubuntu-desktop package depends on it.  if you don't have ubuntu-desktop installed, you won't get any of the new dapper packages.
[12:57] <amgad> noirequus, ok thanks..
[12:57] <Spec> running 'alsamixer' gives me an error, running alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1 works just fine...
[12:57] <vlauzums> Greetings: I have a question - is there a Ubuntu schedule application that has a calendar? Something like the Calendar / Tasks feature in Evolution mail?
[12:57] <Phoul> anyone know about ask?
[12:57] <Spec> the error is: Unable to find definition 'defaults.ctl.card',
[12:58] <Phoul> asx*
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> SoapBathX606X: adding to what LjL said, theres hardly a likely chance it will run GUI fine
[12:58] <ahave> dooglus: very informative
[12:58] <Phoul> .asx media..
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> with that sort of spec that is
[12:58] <amgad> guys, anybody have suggestions, howto get the monitor to turn off after idle, the prefs>screensaver->advanced thingy??
[12:58] <dooglus> ahave: in a terminal, type "apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop".  it will show you which packages ubuntu-desktop keeps installed for you.
[12:58] <aroticoz> how can I mount a bin(cue) virtual CD ?
[12:59] <SoapBathX606X> Okey thanks guys. And now my next question. I have two laptops neither run the interface. (Related to my graphics card I guess)
[12:59] <basbryan> aroticoz: mount it loopback?
[12:59] <aroticoz> i'm realy new :| what do you mean ?
[12:59] <bimberi> vlauzums: do you mean something like MS Project?  If so, have a look at 'planner'
[12:59] <basbryan> aroticoz: i mount iso's in loopback all the time
[12:59] <aroticoz> how ?
[01:00] <vlauzums> bimberi: something more personal, where I can put in tasks for myself and mark appointments on a calendar
[01:00] <aroticoz> what is loopback
[01:00] <noirequus> aroticoz: use binchunker to convert it to .iso then do as basbryan suggests
[01:00] <kevjava> vlauzums: I use KOrganizer.  Evolution is very good for that too.
[01:00] <SoapBathX606X> I have a S3\UChromeP.
[01:00] <hatake_kakashi> basbryan: iirc you cannot mount bin/cue files with -o loop, only iso9660 files
[01:00] <polpak> vlauzums, evolution?
[01:00] <bimberi> vlauzums: ah, kk, evolution or mozilla-calendar perhaps
[01:00] <vlauzums> i was using evolution until i started having problems with it
[01:00] <polpak> vlauzums, depends on if you're using gnome or kde what you'll have installed
[01:00] <vlauzums> ah nice, mozilla-calendar
[01:00] <vlauzums> i'm using gnome ubuntu
[01:00] <LjL> vlauzums: what about evolution itself? i use KDE, not gnome, which does have an application like the one you seem to want, inside Kontact... but i guess Evolution is mostly similar?
[01:00] <rancorus> Hi, Is there any way to remove the touchpad functions of left-clicking
[01:01] <basbryan> aroticoz: http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
[01:01] <aroticoz> thanks
[01:01] <vlauzums> i'll see how mozilla calendar works, thank you everyone
[01:01] <Spec> aroticoz: little different
[01:01] <Spec> aroticoz: .bin/.cue files aren't .iso files
[01:01] <curley_sue> vlauzums have u tried the calendar of mozilla (could b embbeded in either firefox or thunderbird,while in TB it can even mail u notifications...)
[01:01] <vlauzums> oh excellent!
[01:01] <ahave> dooglus: apt-cache answered my question. very relavant
[01:02] <basbryan> spec: how to convert bin/cue to iso?
[01:02] <Spec> cuetools
[01:02] <LKRaider> bin2iso
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> basbryan: noirequus has just mentioned before
[01:02] <dooglus> basbryan: I don't know.  but mplayer can play .bin files directly if that helps.
[01:02] <Spec> or maybe cue2toc
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> 10:00:17 < noirequus> aroticoz: use binchunker to convert it to .iso then do as basbryan suggests
[01:02] <basbryan> hatake:sorry
[01:02] <curley_sue> vlauzums: only pay attention that unlike evolution it is not automatically running in gnome so u have to add it to your startup progs
[01:02] <LKRaider> or use windows :P
[01:02] <dooglus> basbryan: "bchunk" might be what you need
[01:03] <eXIstenZ> How can I install the java web start for firefox?
[01:03] <Spec> there are many different ways
[01:03] <Spec> there's multiple SF.net projects to do this
[01:04] <basbryan> i was asking for articoz...  ty all for answers
[01:04] <aroticoz> thanks
[01:07] <ahave> vmware anyone having a program, that doesn't crash X?
[01:08] <ahave> No help in knowledgebase on vmware website
[01:09] <dollar> how can i install my nvidia driver to run 3ddesk ?
[01:10] <ahave> dollar, did you install the official nvidia driver?
[01:10] <redguy> dollar: what is 3ddesk?
[01:10] <redguy> !nvidia
[01:10] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:10] <redguy> dollar: did you follow that guide?
[01:10] <ahave> its a way of changing desktop space in form og a cube
[01:11] <basbryan> ahave:compiz and xgl?
[01:11] <ahave> nope, its another story
[01:11] <basbryan> ahave:ah
[01:11] <ahave> its in synaptic
[01:11] <bowie__> i got this, trying to install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9877
[01:12] <bowie__> the nvidia driver
[01:12] <kimchi_sg> hi all
[01:12] <redguy> bowie__: how did you try to install the driver?
[01:13] <bowie__> downloading from nvidia site
[01:13] <redguy> bowie__: did you follow the guide ubotu gave few lines above?
[01:13] <redguy> bowie__: why?
[01:13] <bowie__> then sudo sh nvidia driver...
[01:13] <ahave> bowie: what kernel do you use?
[01:13] <redguy> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:13] <ahave> uname -r
[01:13] <bowie__> yes i follow it, the guide
[01:14] <bowie__> 2.6.12-9-686
[01:14] <ahave> did you CC=gcc-3.4, export CC?
[01:14] <aroticoz> sry to bother again but how do I use binchunker :S
[01:14] <bowie__> i have gcc 4.0
[01:14] <ahave> yep, but your kernel isn't build with that
[01:15] <bowie__> redguy why what?
[01:15] <ahave> so do CC=gcc-3.4
[01:15] <redguy> bowie__: why do you want to make it, when there's a package ready for you in the repositories??
[01:15] <ahave> and export CC
[01:15] <kimchi_sg> i've a question... is it safe for me to copy .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives from one computer, for installation and upgrading on another? both are running breezy.
[01:15] <ahave> and then do your install
[01:15] <redguy> bowie__: why did you download from the nvidia site?
[01:15] <redguy> kimchi_sg: sure
[01:15] <linkd> kimchi_sg: i would think so
[01:15] <bowie__> ahave ok i will
[01:15] <polpak> kimchi_sg, yeah, that's fine so long as they are the same arch
[01:16] <kimchi_sg> yes, both are i386.
[01:16] <aroticoz> can anyone tell me how to use bitchunker :|
[01:16] <bowie__> redguy because i install from scratch yesterday my linux distro
[01:16] <blanky> how do I exit man pages?
[01:16] <kimchi_sg> blanky: "q"
[01:17] <_tcc> I need to mount my USB device.
[01:17] <_tcc> How can I do that?
[01:17] <basbryan> aroticoz: a google of bitchunker gave me one page
[01:17] <blanky> haha thanks kimchi_sg
[01:17] <kimchi_sg> and i can just run "dpkg -i *.deb" on the computer to install from the .debs, correct?
[01:17] <basbryan> aroticoz:try another alt?
[01:19] <ahave> Noone on the vmware thing? I've tried: free GSX, player, licensed ESX, workstation. All takes over X, no mouse distorted graphics.
[01:19] <basbryan> aroticoz:(which is why i asked earlier) i cannot even recall last time i faced same prob, but i am pretty sure u can do cue/bin to iso, u just need to find a good up to date proggy for it
[01:19] <plt> hi anybody speaking german in here ?
[01:19] <DoTheRodeo_> how do you compile C++ source with gcc again
[01:20] <basbryan> dotherodeo:g++?
[01:20] <plt> same as c source but g++
[01:20] <dollar> Hello
[01:20] <dollar> How can i install my nvidia drivers so I could run 3ddesk and other apps
[01:20] <DoTheRodeo_> yeah
[01:21] <DoTheRodeo_> what's the command
[01:21] <plt> you want to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu-linux ?
[01:21] <Phoul> is there a reason i cant play .mpegs correctly?
[01:21] <plt> i'd suggest to ask the ubuntu-wiki...
[01:21] <Phoul> Because with some aps i get sound
[01:21] <Phoul> Others i get only the video
[01:21] <ahave> dollar: didn-t your compilation of modules not go well?
[01:21] <mpmc> Does anyone know how, I get a location bar in the file manager instead of the buttons?
[01:21] <plt> http://ubuntuusers.com
[01:22] <brenner> mpmc: ctrl+L
[01:22] <dollar> ahave,  it did
[01:22] <dollar> but
[01:22] <dollar> check this out
[01:22] <plt> as far as i kno nautilus has no location bar
[01:22] <dollar> ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[01:22] <dollar> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[01:22] <mpmc> You know like windows..
[01:22] <dollar> I have Geforce fx
[01:22] <brenner> DoTheRodeo_: this offtopic. ask in a c++ channel
[01:23] <plt> did you try newest drivers from nvidia.com ?
[01:23] <ahave> dollar: try glxgears
[01:23] <dollar> plt no :P
[01:23] <ahave> dollar: in a terminal
[01:23] <Phoul> anyone willing to help me/
[01:23] <plt> ooops sry dollar
[01:23] <Phoul> I want to have a program that runs mpegs correctly like sound&video not just one or the othere
[01:23] <brenner> Phoul: what apps are you trying?  what codecs have you installed?
[01:24] <plt> Phoul: try mplayer or VLC (video lan client)
[01:24] <Phoul> im trying. VLC and totem
[01:24] <dollar> ahave, in a terminal what
[01:24] <plt> vlc doesn't do ?
[01:24] <Phoul> it gives video
[01:24] <Phoul> No sound
[01:24] <plt> sure that your mpegfile is ok ?
[01:24] <rodrigo_> hi
[01:24] <Phoul> Yeah
[01:24] <Phoul> I tried many
[01:24] <Phoul> They all do the same thing
[01:24] <brenner> Phoul: have you intsalled gstreamer0.8-mad?
[01:25] <Phoul> Doubt it
[01:25] <brenner> Phoul: do so
[01:25] <ahave> idollar: open a terminal and write: glxgears
[01:25] <aroticoz> "mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom/ does not exist
[01:25] <aroticoz> " ?!?!?!?
[01:25] <plt> which api do you use for sound ?
[01:25] <brenner> Phoul: what does totem do?
[01:25] <rodrigo_> kick
[01:25] <plt> alsa oss ?
[01:25] <Phoul> mmm yes i did brenner
[01:25] <Phoul> And totem gives sound but no video
[01:25] <basbryan> !restricted-formats
[01:25] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, basbryan
[01:25] <JustinLynn> aroticoz> try mount /media/cdrom
[01:25] <mpmc> Hmmmm..
[01:25] <ahave> dollar: I'm trying to find a link on a howto
[01:25] <aroticoz> thanks
[01:25] <dollar> ok thanks
[01:25] <ufo> how do see installed/loaded modules?
[01:25] <dollar> how can I install KDE on ubuntu ??
[01:26] <demantik> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[01:26] <ufo> dollar, apt-get install kubunt-desktop
[01:26] <brenner> Phoul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:26] <rodrigo_> hi there...  need some help..  can't mount my lexmark printer
[01:26] <Amaranth> dollar: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <ahave> dollar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+howto
[01:26] <ufo> kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <brenner> Phoul: search for the codecs section
[01:26] <rodrigo_> hi there...  need some help..  can't mount my lexmark printer
[01:26] <rodrigo_> hi there...  need some help..  can't mount my lexmark printer
[01:26] <rodrigo_> hi there...  need some help..  can't mount my lexmark printer
[01:26] <rodrigo_> hi there...  need some help..  can't mount my lexmark printer
[01:26] <Phoul> brener i did thos already
[01:26] <aroticoz> yay it works, TY
[01:26] <brenner> rodrigo_: stop flooding
[01:26] <rodrigo_> sorry
[01:26] <dollar> ahave, ok thanks
[01:26] <lafferpt> i'm trying to run password manager but gives this error: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[01:26] <rodrigo_> can't u hele me?
[01:26] <dollar> Amaranth, do you know what the file sizes are ??
[01:26] <mpmc> In the file manager I've seen screenshots with a location bar instead of directory buttons, how do I do that?
[01:26] <Amaranth> dollar: no idea, apt will tell you
[01:27] <JustinLynn> rodrigo_> what printer model is it?
[01:27] <plt> rodrigo_: is your lexmarkprinter supported by ubuntu or do you need special software like turboprint ?
[01:27] <brenner> mpmc: i've already told you. ctrl+L
[01:27] <ompaul> rodrigo_, which actual model
[01:27] <rodrigo_> z812..
[01:27] <rodrigo_> i think isn't supported
[01:28] <plt> do you know about turboprint ?
[01:28] <mpmc> brenner: thx you, I didn't see your message, too much going on in here :P
[01:28] <rodrigo_> Lexmark z812...   z800 Series.
[01:28] <brenner> mpmc: no worries.  but it should have highlighted for you :-/
[01:28] <ladofnod> is there a way to force my motherboard to recognize all the ram i have installed?
[01:28] <plt> i "had" a lexmark because of these probs i have hp now ^^
[01:28] <plt> ladofnod did you do a memtest ?
[01:28] <eXIstenZ> How can I change the permissions for the auto-mounted NTFS partitions placed on the desktop?
[01:28] <Phoul> Umm BLC isnt giving me any sound
[01:28] <Phoul> Ideas?
[01:28] <lafferpt> i'm trying to run password manager but gives this error: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[01:29] <rodrigo_> i dont know about turbo print..   what is it?
[01:29] <dollar> ok
[01:29] <Phoul> erm VLC isnt giving me any sound
[01:29] <Phoul> >.>
[01:29] <brenner> ladofnod: is ubuntu not recognising it?  or your bios?
[01:29] <dollar> ahave, is it possible to install the drivers from nvidia.com ??
[01:29] <basbryan> eXlstenz: chmod?
[01:29] <mpmc> !easyreporites
[01:29] <ubotu> mpmc: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:29] <ladofnod> no. i am aware that my board has a limit on in
[01:29] <plt> turboprint is commercial software to get unsurpportet printers working under linuxboy
[01:29] <ahave> dollar: as far as I've read, you shouldn't try to install KDE in Ubuntu with gnome. Haven't tried it myself, since I've read a good few post saying its mess everything up
[01:29] <eXIstenZ> basbryan, doesn't work. It says the folders don't exist tho I see them on the desktop
[01:29] <plt> just ask google for turboprint + lexmark
[01:30] <plt> ladofnod what about biosupdate ?
[01:30] <lafferpt> i'm trying to run password manager but gives this error: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[01:30] <brenner> ladofnod: so what's the issue?
[01:30] <JustinLynn> rodrigo_> doing some research... may find something :)
[01:30] <ladofnod> the manufact doesnt have anything for linux available
[01:30] <Phoul> anyone here who can help me?
[01:30] <Phoul> :(
[01:30] <rodrigo_> i try everything before this chat..
[01:30] <Phoul> I really wanna get it working
[01:30] <ahave> Still noone with a working vmware install?
[01:30] <brenner> lafferpt: if someone knows, they'll answer.  stop reapeating yourself.  meanwhile, try the forum
[01:31] <mpmc> Now, anyone remember how I get the easy repo site that generates the respos?
[01:31] <drakonan2> oh really? i was about to attempt to get it running ahave
[01:31] <Synergy> umm
[01:31] <cinder> Hi all!!
[01:31] <brenner> ubotu: tell mpmc about easysource
[01:31] <Synergy> i get a udi error or somesuch when trying to use my floopy
[01:31] <Phoul> I will take that as a no?
[01:31] <Synergy> is there a update i need
[01:31] <cinder> Anyone knows how to use "eutils"?
[01:31] <cinder> so I can configure engage
[01:31] <mpmc> brenner: Thx you again, lol....
[01:32] <brenner> Phoul: you installed w32codecs and totem-xine?
[01:32] <Phoul> oop i got it working
[01:32] <ahave> drakonan2, I've had no luck really so far. But I have a patched 2.6.15 kernel, since I have an ASUS MB that demands that
[01:32] <ladofnod> im fairly certain there's nothing i can do, but just researching options if there are any
[01:32] <JustinLynn> rodrigo_> how old is it?
[01:32] <brenner> Synergy: what's the error?
[01:32] <drakonan2> looks like it's not an issue on hoary
[01:32] <navarone> ladofnod a bios update is not available?
[01:32] <rodrigo_> who..? me?
[01:33] <Cinder> Anyone knows how to use "eutils"?
[01:33] <ahave> drakonan:I guess Qemu is ok, not only as fast
[01:33] <JustinLynn> rodrigo_> no :) your printer.
[01:33] <rodrigo_> ... jejje..
[01:33] <ahave> drakonan2: It shouldn't be on 5.10 either
[01:33] <rodrigo_> maybe 1 or 2 years--
[01:33] <plt> where to get more themes for gnome (not gedesklets) ?
[01:34] <basbryan> plt:gnome-look?
[01:34] <brenner> ubotu: tell plt about themes
[01:34] <ladofnod> there is one, but the image writer prog doesnt run in linux, and im not quite familiar with wine yet
[01:34] <ahave> plt: gnomelooks
[01:34] <Synergy> brenner given UDI is a not a mountable volume
[01:34] <drakonan2> why are you wanting to use it out of curiosity ahave?
[01:34] <Cinder> !ubotu eutils
[01:34] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cinder
[01:34] <brenner> Synergy: are you mounting thru terminal?
[01:34] <plt> yeah like crux and glider etc what is brought with ubuntulog
[01:34] <ompaul> Cinder, that is not the search this is
[01:34] <ompaul> !eutils
[01:34] <Synergy> brenner no
[01:34] <plt> im lookin for more...
[01:34] <eth0> hi, im in repositories and when i click add, the click all the four boxes, click ok, and then click add again, only 2 of the 4 boxes are checked - anyone know why?
[01:34] <Synergy> new to linux
[01:34] <Cinder> ompaul, thnxs
[01:34] <Cinder> !eutils
[01:34] <ubotu> Cinder: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:35] <drakonan2> i'm trying to decide whether or not to put linux on this slow 350mhz or windows server 2003, it'll just be a file server
[01:35] <eth0> is that supposed to happen or something?
[01:35] <Synergy> brenner you mind if i msg you
[01:35] <ahave> drakonan2: yep, and I'm doing an MCSA aswell, so it would be nice not to have to boot into windows
[01:35] <ompaul> Cinder, the ! is the bots name in shorthand :-)
[01:35] <brenner> Synergy: best to keep it in channel.  that way others can chip in
[01:35] <Cinder> ompaul, okok
[01:35] <mpmc> Can someone please remind me where the sources are?
[01:35] <nathaniel> Does anyone know how I can check what version of XFREE86 I have?
[01:35] <mpmc> the file..
[01:36] <Synergy> k
[01:36] <lafferpt> i'm trying to run password manager but gives this error: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[01:36] <ahave> drakonan2: and cooporate webmail is usually exhange, so no luck in firefox
[01:36] <Synergy> im new to linux
[01:36] <Synergy> i have not mounted in terminal
[01:36] <Synergy> do i need to do that first
[01:36] <Cinder> No one uses engage??
[01:36] <ompaul> !patience
[01:36] <brenner> Synergy: no. it's just an alternative method.  you should be aple to mount it through nautilus
[01:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[01:36] <brenner> s/aple/able
[01:37] <drakonan2> what tests do you have so far?  I'm going to take 70-290 this Friday
[01:37] <brenner> Synergy: is it possible it's just the disk?
[01:37] <dollar> is there like a taskmanager or something ?? like ctrl+alt+del on winblows?
[01:37] <rodrigo_> i have this file... (z810llpddk-2.0-3.i386.rpm)
[01:37] <basbryan> synergy: addinfg a repos doesn't need a mount
[01:37] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:37] <ubotu> I guess offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:37] <brenner> dollar: apps >sys tools > sys monitor
[01:37] <Amaranth> dollar: gnome-system-monitor
[01:37] <Cinder> dollar, gnome-system-monitor
[01:37] <ompaul> drakonan2, ^^ ubotu :-)
[01:37] <rodrigo_> maybe i didn't install right in my ubuntu 5.10
[01:37] <brenner> basbryan: he's not doing anything with his repos
[01:37] <Synergy> brenner tried 2 disk
[01:37] <eth0> hi, im in repositories and when i click add, the click all the four boxes, click ok, and then click add again, only 2 of the 4 boxes are checked - anyone know why? is that supposed to happen or something?
[01:38] <Amaranth> easyubuntu will setup ctrl-alt-del so it launches gnome-system-monitor, iirc
[01:38] <brenner> Synergy: let's try and mount it manually thru terminal: apps > access. > terminal
[01:38] <basbryan> my bad then...  i thought he was looking for a source for a kernel .deb
[01:38] <nathaniel> The ATI Check.sh is not working on my system...How do I figure out what verison of xfree86 i'm running?
[01:39] <Synergy> k
[01:39] <mpmc> I know this is a stupid question, but where is the sources list stored?
[01:39] <Slant_Mobile> mpmc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:39] <mike998> mpmc /etc/apt/source.list
[01:39] <ahave> drakonan2: I have 070-270 so far, I have taken the classes, but I've haden't had the time to take the other yet. But good luck, the exams are nasty
[01:39] <mpmc> thx, lol
[01:39] <ompaul> mpmc, (A) its not stupid and (B) ^^
[01:39] <mike998> is anyone else having problems with the nm-applet?
[01:39] <ompaul> ahave, drakonan2 please take your conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic it is offtopic for here
[01:40] <ahave> Understood
[01:40] <brenner> Synergy: ready?
[01:40] <Synergy> yea
[01:41] <brenner> Synergy: first, we'll have a look at the current settings for you floppy drive: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:41] <brenner> Synergy: type that and enter your password when prompted
[01:41] <ompaul> ahave, it an actual channel and your partner in chat is there :-)
[01:41] <brenner> nathaniel: you running breezy?
[01:41] <nathaniel> yup
[01:41] <brenner> nathaniel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:41] <mike998> hmmm - okay, I am using dapper, and since I did an upgrade today, my nm-applet simply gives me warnings and will not start...  Does anyone have any ideas why this is?  I have tried removing and reinstalling it.
[01:42] <mike998> I can post the info if required
[01:42] <ompaul> mike998, talk about dapper in channel #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <brenner> nathaniel: i think it's xorg 6.8.0.  i could be horribly wrong though
[01:42] <mike998> roger
[01:42] <basbryan> mike998:#ubuntu+1
[01:42] <ompaul> mike998, thanks
[01:42] <nathaniel> brenner: ok, thanks  i'll look into it
[01:42] <rodrigo_> HOW install turboprint-1.93-2.tgz in Ubuntu 5.10??..  i just downloaded
[01:42] <brenner> nathaniel: but you should follow the wiki instructions for the install.  there's stuff for the ati.com driver there
[01:42] <Synergy> k
[01:42] <Synergy> brenner brb
[01:43] <eth0> hi, im in repositories and when i click add, the click all the four boxes, click ok, and then click add again, only 2 of the 4 boxes are checked - anyone know why? is that supposed to happen or something?
[01:43] <Synergy> im back and forth
[01:43] <Synergy> this pc is in other room
[01:43] <Sh4d0x> hi all, grtz from belgium
[01:43] <Lock-Dog> re
[01:43] <Lock-Dog> i need help pls.
[01:43] <mumbles> why couldent they backup all there documents in a structered enviroment
[01:43] <Sh4d0x> can someone explain me what a flash screens does?
[01:43] <brenner> Synergy: heh. ok.  look for the line with "/dev/fd0" in it.  paste that exact line here
[01:43] <Lock-Dog> i have an alcatel speed touch home modem
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> i need to make vpn connection in ubuntu
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> how do i do that?
[01:44] <Kr4t05> How would I set an NFS dir to automatically mount on boot-up? fstab?
[01:44] <basbryan> can anyone help eth0?  cuz i can't...  mine works just fine
[01:44] <brenner> mumbles: are they the  type with 100 icons on the desktop? :)
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> yep
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> also eth0
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> ethernet
[01:44] <mumbles> brenner yeh
[01:44] <mumbles> and links to folders on there desktop
[01:44] <mumbles> soddit
[01:44] <ompaul> Lock-Dog,  OpenVPN is the best program I know for this and have a look at the nice FAQ on the net for it
[01:44] <mumbles> this time im going to make it so backing up is easy
[01:44] <Lock-Dog> ompaul 10x
[01:45] <eth0> Lock-Dog: yeah?
[01:45] <Lock-Dog> eth0,sorry ;)
[01:45] <mumbles> im going to sit here tommow and sort out there entire backup drive
[01:45] <eth0> oh ok
[01:45] <eth0> i can only get 3 of the 4 security repos to appear on the list
[01:45] <_axel> hi, anybody know how can i change my open files limit? i tried setting 'axel hard nofile 4096' in /etc/security/limits.conf and re-login, i even rebooted, but i keep getting 1024 as limit
[01:46] <Sh4d0x> nvm, i'm off hunting some sleep
[01:46] <IdleOne> whats the command to move a .py file from Desktop to /.xchat2?
[01:46] <Sh4d0x> bb
[01:46] <LjL> IdleOne: mv
[01:46] <mandavi_> eth0: why don't you just edit /ect/apt/sources.list?
[01:46] <eth0> sorry not security, i have all 4 of those, i only have 3 of the 4 for "breey badger"
[01:46] <eth0> mandavi_: ok, will do
[01:46] <IdleOne> LjL>  I dont know the syntax can you be more specific please :)
[01:46] <basketcase3> Could anyone out there help me get my winmodem working in Linux? I am thouroughly confused as to which driver to get.
[01:47] <brenner> IdleOne: mv ~/Desktop/blah.py ~/.xchat2
[01:47] <brenner> IdleOne: i thought you were a guru
[01:47] <IdleOne> thank you  brenner  anf LjL
[01:47] <Synergy> brenner /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,no auto
[01:47] <LjL> !tell idleone about cli
[01:47] <IdleOne> brenner>  way far from guru
[01:47] <LjL> IdleOne: where "~" is shorthand for your home directory
[01:47] <eth0> mandavi_: did that b4, all of them are uncommented
[01:47] <IdleOne> ljl thanks :P
[01:47] <brenner> Synergy: ok.  change it so it looks like: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000  0   0
[01:47] <mandavi_> eth0: hmm
[01:48] <Kr4t05> How would I set an NFS dir to automatically mount on boot-up?
[01:48] <LjL> Kr4t05: put it in /etc/fstab i suppose
[01:48] <mandavi_> basketcase3: did you read http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ ?
[01:48] <Kr4t05> LjL: I tried
[01:48] <Lock-Dog> can ne1 pls hlp,in private?
[01:48] <eth0> i have 3 x breezy badger, and 2 x updates in my repos list
[01:48] <sinaduel> hello, I just installed Cadega, but when it gets to the the hardware information, my GeForce FX5200 card doesn't show up
[01:48] <blanky> hey guys, I have an extra button on my mouse, how can I 'bind' or configure it so that in firefox it acts as the BACK button?
[01:48] <LjL> Kr4t05: perhaps the network is not up yet when the system tries to mount it (shouldn't happen, but does)
[01:49] <blanky> it automatically does that in Windows
[01:49] <ompaul> basketcase3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:49] <eth0> when i clicked all four to be in there
[01:49] <eth0> for each
[01:49] <mandavi_> eth0: when you do a apt-get update - does it renew all the sources?
[01:49] <LjL> Kr4t05: you could put a "mount" command into your /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, that's started later hopefully
[01:49] <mpmc> Kr4t05: /dev/hda1       /media/ntfs  ntfs    nls=utf8,auto,user,umask=0222 0       0
[01:49] <mandavi_> eth0:  or only three out of four?
[01:49] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, ask in public and have 567 people help
[01:49] <LjL> nfs or ntfs?
[01:49] <brenner> ubotu: tell blanky about mouse
[01:49] <zezu> i'm using "readelf -l /tools/bin/* | grep interpreter" to display the linkage in all of the files in /tools/bin, but i'd like to get the filenames of them as they are being listed, any way to do this or is there a better way via sh script to go through each so i can parse it further ?
[01:49] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,i`m shy ;)
[01:49] <eth0> mandavi_: yea, 3 of the 4 breezy badgers
[01:49] <Kr4t05> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[01:49] <Kr4t05> Is that bad?
[01:49] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, so if you don't ask you don't get answers
[01:50] <basbryan> add a new line?
[01:50] <basbryan> lol
[01:50] <LjL> Kr4t05: don't think it's really bad, but just add it
[01:50] <bimberi> blanky: something here might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:50] <basketcase3> I've checked both those sites. I ran scanModem, and I have a PCTel modem, and if I remember correctly, it was a 7891.
[01:50] <mandavi_> eth0: did you really try to type 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[01:50] <Kr4t05> LjL: I did.
[01:50] <basketcase3> Now I'm confused on which driver to download, and how to install it.
[01:50] <eth0> mandavi_: no ill do it now
[01:50] <Cinder> no one knows anything about e17?
[01:50] <Lock-Dog> xmm...well i downloaded OpenVPN.tar.gz -i`ll copy it to floppy disk,start linux copy the file there,then what?!
[01:50] <engla> Hey! Any ppc users out there? I need someone to test drive my cairo-clock build, I built it for Breezy/PPC [It's an amazingly pretty clock]  http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=23
[01:50] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, well don't start there
[01:50] <Lock-Dog> o?
[01:50] <engla> it's not available on the webpage, rather, I have to try the .debs first
[01:51] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, :-) just a second
[01:51] <Lock-Dog> k ;)
[01:51] <mandavi_> basketcase3: download the scanmodem thing from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz and run it
[01:51] <LjL> Kr4t05: is this *nfs* or *ntfs*?
[01:51] <mpmc> Updating takes forever.. servers slow..
[01:51] <mandavi_> basketcase3: i mean upack it first...
[01:51] <Kr4t05> LjL: NFS
[01:51] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, okay it is in what is called universe
[01:51] <ompaul> !tell Lock-Dog about universe
[01:51] <Synergy> brenner ok
[01:51] <Synergy> did that
[01:51] <LjL> Kr4t05: ok. asked since another guy suggested a fstab line for ntfs...
[01:51] <basketcase3> I've already run it. It's a PCTel 7891.
[01:52] <Synergy> was i supposed to save it
[01:52] <eth0> mandavi_: ok, i did it, i still have the same number of repos - 11
[01:52] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, read the message from the bot do the job and tell me when it is done then we continue
[01:52] <Kr4t05> ok, I suppose it works.
[01:52] <LjL> Kr4t05: so after you've put the line into your fstab, can you mount it by typing "sudo mount /mnt/blah"?
[01:52] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,10x,i`ll check it right away.
[01:52] <Kr4t05> LjL: Nope.
[01:52] <dollar> How can I close X and go back to the terminal ?
[01:52] <Kr4t05> mount: 192.168.1.54:/media/share already mounted or /home/kratos/Stuff busy
[01:52] <ompaul> !tell Lock-Dog about register
[01:52] <mandavi_> eth0: i send you a private message...
[01:53] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, had the bot send you another useful one
[01:53] <LjL> Kr4t05: is it already mounted?
[01:53] <mandavi_> eth0: did you get it?
[01:53] <Kr4t05> LjL: Yeah
[01:53] <Lock-Dog> ompaul k ;)
[01:53] <Kr4t05> LjL: It worked.
[01:53] <eth0> mandavi_: no, u have to be registered to send privmsg
[01:53] <Kr4t05> LjL: Thanks.
[01:53] <LjL> Kr4t05: good
[01:53] <basbryan> dollar: ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:53] <brenner> Synergy: yep.  now let's try and mount your disk.  first, try accessing it through Places again.  if that doesn't work, in the terminal type: sudo mount /dev/fd0/ /media/flopp0 -t vfat
[01:53] <shan> hi all, how can I display video data in the memory to the monitor directly, if I have a video device called /dev/video0, how can I deliver the data to my video card??
[01:53] <bimberi> "10x", sheesh
[01:53] <dollar> basbryan, ths doesnt close X ?
[01:53] <basbryan> dollar:this doesn't kill x though
[01:53] <mpmc> Night Guys, I'm going to bed, lol... after this update has finished..
[01:53] <mandavi_> eth0: how do i change my name?
[01:53] <brenner> Synergy: let me know how both of those go
[01:53] <dollar> I need to kill X
[01:53] <eth0> mandavi_: /nick ?
[01:53] <bimberi> mandavi_: /nick newname
[01:54] <basbryan> dollar: kill X and X11 and like
[01:54] <LjL> shan: google for "framebuffer howto". anyway, the quick answer is that /dev/video0 is "just a file" (not really, but the system treats it like one), so you can use any command that deals with files
[01:54] <basbryan> dollar: ctrl bkspc kills X and restarts it
[01:54] <eth0> mandavi: im not registered anyways
[01:54] <mandavi> eth0: ok
[01:54] <LjL> shan: oh no hold on a second, you said video0, not fb0...
[01:54] <eth0> mandavi: do u have 11 repos, or more than that?
[01:54] <basbryan> dollar:ctrl-alt-f1 and kill -9 (things with x)
[01:54] <basketcase3> Everyone helping me: I have found this site (http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/), but now have no clue which driver to download, or how to install it.
[01:54] <LjL> shan: nevermind what i said
[01:55] <basbryan> dollar kills X
[01:55] <ahave> dollar: or killallgdm
[01:55] <ahave> dollar: or kilall gdm
[01:55] <LjL> shan: you should simply get a program that can do that. i use camstream, but it's not a really good program, and it needs Qt installed
[01:55] <LjL> shan: perhaps qcam?
[01:55] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,ehh...it would be a prob,ubuntu is on this mashine...i won`t remeber the do list.
[01:56] <basbryan> dollar: my way may not be best way but it does work
[01:56] <Lock-Dog> i need to restart and get into the ubuntu ;.
[01:56] <mandavi> eth0: if your sources.list is ok - check that again - than you should not have problems with apt-get update
[01:56] <basbryan> dollar: i have used it in many different linux dostros
[01:56] <dollar> I dont have gcc
[01:56] <mandavi> eth0: i used automatix and it added plenty os repos...
[01:56] <ahave> blanky: have a look at xbindkeys
[01:56] <eth0> mandavi: apt-get update seemed to work
[01:56] <basbryan> dollar:apt-get install gcc?
[01:56] <mrec> does anyone here have a terratec cinergy T2 usb device?
[01:56] <mandavi> eth0: did you do that? - using automatix?
[01:57] <Kr4t05> When I use 'tar -czv DIR' a load of junk text starts flying through the terminal. Is this bad?
[01:57] <blanky> lol, thanks for the late reply but thanks anyways :P ahave
[01:57] <shan> LjL: many thanks, actually I wanta do some streaming on linux, I got the captured data in /dev/video0, I need to display it on the monitor to test the program, is there a simple way I can achieve it??
[01:57] <eth0> mandavi: i have 9 repos in my sources.list
[01:57] <eth0> er sorry
[01:57] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,so what can i do? ;(
[01:58] <eth0> mandavi: 11 not 9
[01:58] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, print the instructions
[01:58] <brenner> Kr4t05: no.  you used the verbose option.  it's telling you what it's putting in the tar file
[01:58] <dollar> I dont have aything to compile my files with
[01:58] <eth0> mandavi: so i guess all is ok
[01:58] <dollar> I got gcc
[01:58] <brenner> Kr4t05: verboes is the v in cvf
[01:58] <dollar> what else should I get/?? for make, and other stuff
[01:58] <LjL> shan: camstream achieves that, it's just that if you don't have the QT libraries already installed it might take a while downloading...
[01:58] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,ehh...that would be only from work,tomorow ;) 10x NE`way.
[01:58] <basbryan> dollar:gcc can't compile your files?
[01:58] <bimberi> dollar: build-essential
[01:58] <ahave> blanky: have a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=logitech+lx7
[01:58] <estudiante> olivia toro
[01:58] <basbryan> bim:ah
[01:59] <estudiante> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:59] <mandavi> eth0: it is probably anyway anough - but if you want to be sure to have always the latest stuff - get automatix and run it
[01:59] <bimberi> !automatix
[01:59] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, if windows is on the box use the properties to find out what chipset is there
[01:59] <eth0> mandavi: ok, thanks
[02:00] <LjL> !automatix
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:00] <eth0> mandavi: cant find any package called automatix
[02:00] <dollar> I am trying to install the nvidia driver from www.nvidia.com.. but it fails
[02:00] <LjL> bimberi: it doesn't like you
[02:00] <moparfan90> where can i download the fps game cube?
[02:00] <dollar> it's saying thatit needs another compiler
[02:00] <dollar> !tell dollar about nvidia
[02:00] <basbryan> dollar: 3.4?
[02:01] <estudiante> fglkerjhoijgjhioajldg
[02:01] <basbryan> dollar: install the one it wants to get it to work
[02:01] <JustinLynn> !tell JustinLynn about ati
[02:01] <ahave> Why is Automatix unsafe?
[02:01] <Zenethian> Question:  Is there any difference at all between installing Ubuntu and then apt-getting kubuntu-desktop   vs  installing Kubuntu itself?  Do they have separate deb repositories?  I'm a long-time Debian user who's finding Ubuntu more suitable and interesting and would like to give it a whirl.
[02:02] <Toma-> !automatix
[02:02] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:02] <LjL> Zenethian: the only real difference is that doing the former will not uninstall gnome
[02:02] <owner_> OK
[02:02] <iReALLyGotNoTime> i686 means higher end AMD systems right?
[02:02] <Synergy> lol
[02:02] <ccc_> Zenethian: it's not the same, but close :) and yes they use the same repos
[02:02] <Synergy> man do i feel over my head
[02:02] <ompaul> ahave, it has broken many boxes, and we see it here on all to regular basis
[02:02] <Synergy> brenner you still about
[02:02] <Lock-Dog> ompaul..i also have a compaq laptop...pentium 2,433mhz,64ram,4.65gb hd...would the ubuntu run good on the mashine?
[02:02] <navarone> moparfan90, tr google cube and sourceforge   I am pretty sure it is hosted on either sourceforge or freshmeat
[02:02] <Zenethian> ccc_: is there a FAQ somewhere with the differences?
[02:03] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, yes it will be fine :)
[02:03] <Lock-Dog> iReALLyGotNoTime ;)
[02:03] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, I put it on a 233 laptop for asterisk
[02:03] <Zenethian> Ah, I found it.
[02:03] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, I would run xubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu on it
[02:03] <ahave> ompaul: ok, I have allways keept a copy of my sources.list? Is that not enough?
[02:03] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, it sits on my closet shelf running my home phone system
[02:03] <ompaul> ahave, ehh no in cases where it fails it has broken boxes it is nothing to do with the sources list persay
[02:03] <Lock-Dog> o.k..just for the idea ;) First i want to have it running good with connection on this mashine ;)
[02:04] <ahave> Automatix, does solve a lot of problems for a beginner in Linux
[02:04] <ccc_> ahave: and creates even more in the long run
[02:04] <iReALLyGotNoTime> i686 means higher end AMD systems right?
[02:04] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: not really
[02:04] <bimberi> iReALLyGotNoTime: no, Intel Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium 4
[02:04] <brenner> Synergy: yep
[02:04] <ahave> ccc: and by that you mean?
[02:04] <mandavi> eth0: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[02:04] <basbryan> i686 mens i686 which is not i386 or i486
[02:04] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL & bimberi thank you :)
[02:05] <basbryan> means*
[02:05] <ahave> ccc: apart from a new sources.list
[02:05] <ccc_> ahave: for example what ubotu just told us.
[02:05] <bimberi> iReALLyGotNoTime: np :)
[02:05] <iReALLyGotNoTime> so my AMD 3500 can run it?
[02:05] <iReALLyGotNoTime> so when I installed i386 I chose the wrong version?
[02:05] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: you can run just about any x86 binaries, they might run slower though
[02:05] <ompaul> ahave, I am not going to discuss it you can ask here there are several who will agree with me, while I understand your point I do not concur I have had to pick up the pieces too often and then there are times when it is just better for a reinstall
[02:05] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: when you installed what? is that the kernel?
[02:06] <iReALLyGotNoTime> I think, it was the version of Ubuntu I chose
[02:06] <Synergy> brenner i got a half page of stuff with the manual typing
[02:06] <basbryan> ompaul:amen
[02:06] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: no, it was right
[02:06] <ssstormy> iReALLyGotNoTime, it's a cpu architecture
[02:06] <iReALLyGotNoTime> 5.10 for i386
[02:06] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: that means i386 -> 32 bit as opposed to 64 bit
[02:06] <iReALLyGotNoTime> meaning I COULD run faster yet??
[02:06] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,would 4.65gb will be enough for the ubuntu?
[02:07] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: you can install a K7 kernel (your AMD should probably be best optimized with a K7 kernel)
[02:07] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, it is very tight at that
[02:07] <basbryan> ireallY: if u r using i386 and deserve i686 then yes
[02:07] <mandavi> !easyubuntu
[02:07] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:07] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL all I got to say is WOW, it is already hella fast
[02:07] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,didn`t understand the answer.
[02:07] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: it won't really get much faster
[02:07] <eth0> mandavi: is it available as a package to u?
[02:07] <Synergy> brenner do i need to do this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85777&highlight=udi
[02:07] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, why not run a live CD?
[02:07] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, I would prefer to see you grant it more
[02:07] <navarone> Lock-Dog, I have my ubuntu partition at about 12gb...just in case...<s>
[02:07] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, see what you think of it?
[02:07] <basbryan> "much" is fair
[02:07] !lilo:*! Hi all. Can someone assist with English <-> French translation, on channel and of web pages?
[02:08] <ahave> ompaul, ccc_: what are the issues? I've read ubotu again, but I still don't have a clue, about what the issues is?
[02:08] <ahave> is=are
[02:08] <Lock-Dog> iReALLyGotNoTime,xmm...i didn`t dowload the livecd...but i can ;)
[02:08] <mandavi> eth0: no, and i have just read it is not completely save to use it... you should use easyubuntu instead
[02:08] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: it's just low-level optimizations. i think it's still worth installing it, though, as even though the performance increase (is increase a noun? i'm tired) might be marginal, it never gave me a problem - and i don't think it gives problems in general
[02:08] <mandavi> eth0: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:08] <eth0> mandavi: ah ok, thanks
[02:08] <basbryan> ljl:4 me it doesn't........
[02:09] <navarone> Lock-Dog, are you going witha  windowsless system? If not you may want to add a fat32 partition to make sharing files between windows and linux a bit less troublesome
[02:09] <ahave> About Automatix, its not a time issue, but merely a convinience thing
[02:09] <iReALLyGotNoTime> Lock-Dog, it downloaded at 650k for me, only took 18 minutes :)
[02:09] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL, thanks for the tip but configuring everything again doesn't sound like fun LOL
[02:10] <ccc_> ahave: it screws up configuration, in some cases irreversible. try reading "man apt-get" and look for "--force-yes". it does that, for example. i.e. not good.
[02:10] <LjL> ahave: automatix breaks. lots of people have used automatix and ended up reinstalling their Ubuntu. it changes config files in a way that's not really smart enough, and things like that.
[02:10] <LjL> !tell ahave about easyubuntu
[02:10] <navarone> iReALLyGotNoTime, you must be on a T1 connection
[02:10] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: no need to configure anything, just "sudo apt-get install linux-k7"
[02:10] <SAM_theman> hey guys
[02:10] <SAM_theman> i really need your help
[02:10] <SAM_theman> i am on my dads comp now
[02:10] <Lock-Dog> oo..btw...in linux...how can i c other hd?! I mean windows hd. ntfs.
[02:10] <iReALLyGotNoTime> navarone, no cable :)
[02:10] <LjL> !tell lock-dog about ntfs
[02:11] <SAM_theman> but...for me i just install ubuntu 5.10 and my nvidia  is only giving me 640*480
[02:11] <navarone> iReALLyGotNoTime, were you dl'ing via bittorrent?
[02:11] <SAM_theman> and i have a 6600GT
[02:11] <brenner> Synergy: if it's the same problem, then yeah, it's something to try
[02:11] <SAM_theman> my dad has a 6200
[02:11] <SAM_theman> and its working for him
[02:11] <Synergy> k
[02:11] <Synergy> will do
[02:11] <brenner> Synergy: i'd use the method in pots #12
[02:11] <SAM_theman> but for me i updated my system but no luck
[02:11] <Synergy> one last question
[02:11] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL, linux-k7 is all for the name?
[02:11] <maxkelley> er, sighs
[02:11] <brenner> s/pots/post
[02:11] <iReALLyGotNoTime> navarone, nope.... Firefox
[02:12] <ompaul> ahave, okay, if you use it and it works fine, if it fails you it will break your machine, read the thread on the sounder mailing list about --force-yes and its replacement by echo Y -- just not good - btw --force-yes which is not used today is replaced by a Y to --assume-yes just the same thing read the apt-get man page, and it overwrites config files with no regard to what is there so this topic is now closed you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic to conti
[02:12] <ompaul> nue
[02:12] <Synergy> my wifes pc uses a usb ehternet adapter
[02:12] <SAM_theman> i can't even log on xchat ??
[02:12] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: yeah. the actual packages it will install are caleld linux-kernel-2.6.12-10-k7 or something and similar things, but linux-k7 alone will install all of that
[02:12] <Synergy> can ubuntu handel that
[02:12] <SAM_theman> hurry my dad needs his comp!
[02:12] <navarone> iReALLyGotNoTime, you must've had a good tailwind...lol
[02:12] <maxkelley> Synergy: only one way to try!
[02:12] <ahave> LjL: I've no problem with Ubuntu, but if no one tells me what the issues are, I've no chance of telling others.
[02:12] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL, I won't lose anything? not even my new firefox bookmarks?
[02:13] <maxkelley> SAM_theman: eh? log in on xchat?
[02:13] <moparfan90> ok... when i try to run cube_unix (he instal file for h game cube i get a error... can i paste it?
[02:13] <ompaul> !tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[02:13] <iReALLyGotNoTime> navarone, haha, I used a download accelerator for the first time in 3 years for that :P
[02:13] <SAM_theman> i did that
[02:13] <ccc_> ahave: i/we just did tell you :)
[02:13] <ahave> ompaul: I will, and thanks for
[02:13] <Zenethian> In debian I often run the "unstable" version.  Is there an equivilant 'bleeding edge' package set in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <iReALLyGotNoTime> navarone, flash get for firefox, it was great
[02:13] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: no. in the very worst case, you won't be able to boot with the new kernel -- which simply means you'll have to select the old kernel from your boot screen
[02:13] <bimberi> ubotu tell Zenethian about dapper
[02:13] <maxkelley> Zenethian: dapper is the new rel.. nvm
[02:13] <Zenethian> thanks  :)
[02:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell Zenethian about getdapper
[02:14] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL, will the old automatically load the k7?
[02:14] <navarone> iReALLyGotNoTime, I have changed arch about 3 times in synaptic...it's painless...grub is updated and you can chose which you want to load at boot. And you can uninstall any kernels afterwards and it will free up the space and update grub again for you
[02:14] <bimberi> Zenethian: np :)
[02:14] <basbryan> ubotu:??   is colon needed?
[02:14] <ubotu> ...but  is already something else...
[02:14] <iReALLyGotNoTime> navarone, thank you!
[02:14] <navarone> iReALLyGotNoTime, no prob
[02:14] <LjL> ahave: well just see what the bot said as an example. "echo yNYn" or things like that are scary. i'd really like a program like that to actually *check* what it's doing
[02:14] <Lock-Dog> k guys...i`ll do everything tomorow...going to read an art of deception for a while...10x for the help and your time.
[02:14] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: what?
[02:14] <Lock-Dog> bb
[02:15] <iReALLyGotNoTime> LjL, got it already thank you, I will do update tonight :)
[02:15] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, read, but question what you read
[02:15] <brenner> navarone: ohw do you uninstall a kernel?
[02:15] <Em`Zee> could anyone help me compile the Tulip kernel module? I keep getting "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" errors
[02:15] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,o e ;)
[02:15] <LjL> iReALLyGotNoTime: the new (k7) kernel will be loaded by default after you install it. if you instead launch the old kernel from the boot screen, then you won't be using any K7 optimizations
[02:15] <brenner> navarone: is it ust a case of removing for e.g. all *386* packages
[02:15] <Lock-Dog> ompaul,did you read it?
[02:15] <brenner> s/ust/just
[02:15] <navarone> brenner I would search in synaptic for the arch ie 386 or whathave you and then select it for removal
[02:16] <Lock-Dog> ;)
[02:16] <navarone> brenner...pretty much from my experience
[02:16] <brenner> navarone: ah. cheers
[02:16] <ompaul> Lock-Dog, it is offtopic - please do not discuss it here
[02:16] <Lock-Dog> right
[02:16] <Lock-Dog> sorry
[02:16] <Lock-Dog> godd night
[02:16] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about X
[02:16] <ompaul> nn
[02:16] <Lock-Dog> good*
[02:16] <moparfan90> brenner, do you live on longisland?
[02:16] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about x11
[02:16] <ompaul> !tell SAM_theman about msgthebot
[02:16] <Kr4t05> n00b question: Is it normal to see junk text when you're tar-ing files via terminal?
[02:17] <LjL> Kr4t05: no
[02:17] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about x800*640 problem
[02:17] <Kr4t05> o.o
[02:17] <brenner> moparfan90: no
[02:17] <Kr4t05> LjL: Uh...
[02:17] <moparfan90> oo ok
[02:17] <moparfan90> lol
[02:17] <IdleOne> SAM_theman>  use /msg ubotu searchterm
[02:17] <LjL> Kr4t05: the correct syntax for creating a tar archive is "tar -cf archive.tar files or directories to tar"
[02:17] <brenner> moparfan90: why do you ask?
[02:17] <LjL> Kr4t05: the syntax for extracting a tar archive is "tar -xf archive.tar"
[02:18] <moparfan90> does anyone have the game cube working on there system
[02:18] <moparfan90> ?
[02:18] <petaka> Hello everybody!
[02:18] <moparfan90> becuse i thought you were someone i know
[02:18] <ompaul> SAM_theman, (A) message the bot don't do it in the channel when looking for info for youself and (B) I will have the bot send you something I believe to be what your looking for
[02:18] <Rory|FireShaper> Hey all!
[02:18] <SAM_theman> nope
[02:18] <SAM_theman> nothing works
[02:18] <brenner> moparfan90: not likely. i'm in melbourne
[02:18] <SAM_theman> i sort of pissed
[02:18] <IdleOne> heya Rory|FireShaper
[02:18] <Kr4t05> LjL: That explains everything. Thanks
[02:19] <moparfan90> oo
[02:19] <moparfan90> ok :)
[02:19] <Rory|FireShaper> I'm having a problem, when I try to boot from a CD my comp starts up and then it just shuts off
[02:19] <petaka> Can somebody advice me on how to compile the oficial nforce drivers from nvidia.com for Breezy ?
[02:20] <Bubben> witch is the latest kernel in ubuntu?
[02:20] <bimberi> Bubben: breezy uses 2.6.12, Dapper (the development release) 2.6.15
[02:20] <ompaul> Bubben, the lastest stable is 2.6.12-10-386
[02:20] <Bubben> I found more in synaptic
[02:21] <Bubben> okey
[02:21] <dollar> why is linux better than windows? i'm a new linux user so ease up on me plz
[02:22] <moparfan90> omfg... beause windows sucks
[02:22] <Em`Zee> dollar; A) It's free =)
[02:22] <Em`Zee> B) The community for support is huge. As you can see, this channel alone has over 550 users.
[02:22] <basbryan> b) it is harder to take over
[02:22] <ompaul> dollar, that can be discussed in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic and is now closed here
[02:22] <Em`Zee> C) It's proven to be more secure
[02:22] <Em`Zee> whoop
[02:22] <basbryan> c) it isn't evil
[02:23] <moparfan90> -free -easy to customize or your look and hardware..
[02:23] <curley_sue> anyone has an idea how to use xxkb?
[02:23] <Rory|FireShaper> so no one knows?
[02:23] <chuckyp> Rory|FireShaper, what cd are you trying to boot to?
[02:23] <moparfan90> Rory|FireShaper, what does the screen say right bedore if shutsoff?
[02:23] <ompaul> have a look at these http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge not perfect but a start
[02:23] <basbryan> rory|f: an mobo prob?  or bios?
[02:24] <ahave> apt-get-force-yes: apart from breaking your system, is there any other things it could potentially do?
[02:24] <ompaul> ahave, is that not enough?
[02:24] <LjL> ahave: demons coming out of your nose
[02:24] <Toma-> ahave, isnt that enough to not do it?
[02:24] <ahave> are there no rules if you do force-yes?
[02:24] <basbryan> nose demons!!!!   rotf
[02:25] <ompaul> ahave, having a non working machine is pretty much a bad thing, as least imho
[02:25] <Kube> it's free????!!! someone sold it to me for 50$... he said the ubuntu is like windows... so u must pay for it
[02:25] <LjL> basbryan: that's from comp.lang.c - their favorite way of explaining what happens when you invoke undefined behavior
[02:25] <basbryan> lol
[02:25] <LjL> Kube: you're been ripped off then
[02:25] <moparfan90> Kube, haha you ot pwnd
[02:25] <Em`Zee> Kube; Dear lord I hope you're kidding...
[02:25] <Toma-> Kube, report them to canonical :)
[02:25] <basbryan> linux is free in every sense
[02:25] <ahave> ompaul: you could reinstall, even though its an inconviniance
[02:26] <Kube> he gave his email if i need anything else... can u do smth abt it???/
[02:26] <ompaul> ahave, for a new user that could be hell on earth if they have done anything like bring data to it
[02:26] <Toma-> you can get sued for selling it for more than the distribution chost, iirc...
[02:26] <Rory|FireShaper> basbryan: I dunno though. I've looked into flashing my bios but it seems that you really can't with linux
[02:26] <Toma-> *cost
[02:26] <ompaul> ahave, as they say in all the best burger joints, have it your way, I consider you warned :)
[02:26] <LjL> Kube: i don't know, but i don't think. you could sue him i suppose.
[02:26] <basbryan> rory: wtf?  flashing is flashing regardless of os
[02:26] <Tom_Kidd> I'm playing Unreal Tournament 2004, and I've set my Anti-Aliasing to 8x and my Antistropic to 16x via nvidia-settings. Yet I seriously doubt it's actually working, is UT2004 overriding my settings or something?
[02:26] <ompaul> ahave, but we don't allow people to say it here without the stream of No and Don't like you have seen
[02:27] <Kube> btw
[02:27] <Toma-> ahave, using force-yes will basically destroy apt databases. you wont be able to get updates, use apt or synaptic
[02:27] <ompaul> ahave, because we pick up pieces and there are better things to help with
[02:27] <Kube> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[02:27] <Kube> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[02:27] <Kube> i installed all nvidia drivers
[02:27] <Kube> with synaptic
[02:27] <Tom_Kidd> nvidia-glx-config enable?
[02:27] <basbryan> rory: exe might not be built for linux, but a flash is a flash
[02:27] <ahave> ompaul: I can see that, but what does that option actually means??  Would synaptic otherwise warn you, that you where doing something irreversible if you where installing that way?
[02:27] <chuckyp> !tell Kube about nvidia
[02:27] <Kube> okay/
[02:28] <Rory|FireShaper> basbryan: Do you know of an easy way to flash with USB drive? I don't have a floppy.. anyway, most flash utils need DOS, right?
[02:28] <LjL> Kube: by the way, for your information, not only Linux itself is free, but as far as Ubuntu in particular, you can have free CDs shipped to you.
[02:28] <basbryan> rory:??
[02:28] <basbryan> rory:no...
[02:28] <petaka> is anyone using N-FORCE drivers??
[02:28] <Zenethian> Tom_Kidd: In general I find that UT never obeys the AF or AA settings.
[02:28] <Toma-> Rory|FireShaper, i have to install freedos then use that to load a flashbios.exe program onto the disk
[02:28] <basbryan> freedos anyone?
[02:28] <maxkelley> basbryan: k...
[02:28] <Tom_Kidd> I'll check out ut2004.ini then
[02:28] <Tom_Kidd> Horrible edges :(
[02:29] <Zenethian> hehe yeah
[02:29] <Toma-> !info freedos
[02:29] <bosco> hey how do i copy a cd to my hard drive
[02:29] <Zenethian> I think UT2007 will play better with it
[02:29] <bosco> in terminal
[02:29] <Zenethian> bosco: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=yourfile.iso
[02:29] <Toma-> !info dosemu-freedos
[02:29] <ubotu> dosemu-freedos: (FreeDOS package for DOSEMU), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: b8p-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 758 kB, Installed size: 2012 kB
[02:29] <Tom_Kidd> Hehe I'm trying to save up some big bucks for an upgrade to handle UT2007
[02:29] <Zenethian> replace /dev/cdrom with your cd drive device, like /dev/hdc or whatever
[02:29] <Tom_Kidd> Got a 6600GT right now, could probably play it with lowish-medium settings
[02:29] <navarone> basbryan, I think Rory|FireShaper 's biggest obstacle is no floppy...but maybe a boot-cd with the flash util is possible?
[02:29] <bosco> Zenethian, it is a music cd
[02:29] <Zenethian> Tom_Kidd: Heh, I have the same card.  I turn all the settings pretty low.
[02:29] <basbryan> sure
[02:30] <bosco> Zenethian,  not an sio
[02:30] <bosco> isos
[02:30] <basbryan> words scared me...  no one did wrong
[02:30] <Zenethian> bosco: so?  you can still raw copy it.  Are you asking how to convert the music into a wav file?
[02:30] <bosco> Zenethian,  i need to copy it to my hard drive so i can play it in XMMS
[02:31] <Zenethian> in that case, you'll want to use cdparanoia
[02:31] <Zenethian> it's a cd WAV ripper
[02:31] <dogmain4teeth> hello all, i am having trouble installing ubuntu 5.10 i386 on my Dell Inspiron 6000.  The install process gets up to about 6% through "Installing the base system" then the cd drive stops spinning at a normal rate and it makes a strange sound, continues to copy files much slower (spends about 30 minutes on 6%), and then comes up with an error message.
[02:31] <chuckyp> Tom_Kidd, i'm sure the higher end nvidia cards out right now will play it.
[02:31] <Toma-> !info grip
[02:31] <ompaul> ahave, I am not going to spend the evening discussing the minutia of apt-get or synaptic as I said it is offtopic if you want to take it up as conversation, it can force but at least you have to tell it it does not do it by choice
[02:31] <ubotu> grip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.3.1-2ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 444 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB
[02:31] <Zenethian> it's a bit complicated to use, at least moreso than dd is., you'll wanna read the manpage
[02:31] <LjL> dogmain4teeth: your CD is probably broken. check it and/or burn another
[02:31] <Tom_Kidd> chukyp: Yeah, I'm hoping to get a 7800GTX 256mb or a 7800GT 256mb
[02:31] <Zenethian> heh
[02:32] <philippe_> fff
[02:32] <BlueEagle> dogmain4teeth: Check the MD5 sum of the .iso you downloaded and clean the cd-rom drive.
[02:32] <Tom_Kidd> and probably upgrade to 2gigs instead of one, for all of that texturing memory.
[02:32] <Toma-> dogmain4teeth, sounds like an error in burning the iso :(
[02:32] <Zenethian> I'm not buying another video card until I upgrade my mobo and processor.
[02:32] <moooooo> lol  DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[02:32] <ompaul> ahave, that did not read right, if you want to make any more points the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <philippe_> chii
[02:32] <Tom_Kidd> I got an AMD64 3000+ but I've OC'd it to 2.65ghz stable
[02:32] <Zenethian> nice.
[02:32] <Tom_Kidd> Too bad it's winchester (No SSE3)
[02:32] <Zenethian> I'm still on an old XP 2600
[02:32] <basbryan> sorry
[02:32] <ahave> ompaul: I do understand your concerns
[02:33] <Rory|FireShaper> oh well, I guess I'll have to figure it out from somewhere else....
[02:33] <maxkelley> Zenethian: i wish I had an athlon xp..
[02:33] <Zenethian> hehe, whatcha got?
[02:33] <Rory|FireShaper> thanks for ya'll's help
[02:33] <Toma-> Tom_Kidd, youd do better getting an SLI setup, imho
[02:33] <BlueEagle> basbryan: "windows is for computers what petrol is for the car" is a common misconception afaik.
[02:33] <dogmain4teeth> i am also having a similar problem with my liveCD in every computer in the house!
[02:33] <basbryan> blueEagle: it is
[02:33] <maxkelley> Zenethian: this one right here is an 866mhz p3, my main one is p4 2.6ghz... i want an AMD
[02:33] <Zenethian> BlueDevil: A funny quote I heard is "A PC without Windows is like Chocolate Cake without the mustard."
[02:33] <navarone> Rory|FireShaper, are you able to change boot sequence in bios setup? You should eb able to reach bios setup during boot by pressing "del" key or something similar depending on your computer
[02:33] <Tom_Kidd> I'll probably get an SLI motherboard, for the sole reason of if I upgrade.. Otherwise I'm too broke
[02:33] <basbryan> and in theory i am ok with that
[02:33] <maxkelley> dogmain4teeth: it's possible you have a bad cd.
[02:33] <curley_sue> HELP any ideas on how to run xxkb?!
[02:34] <BlueEagle> dogmain4teeth: Again, check the MD5sum of the iso and the burned CD.
[02:34] <basbryan> but in reality i run and hide
[02:34] <ompaul> theskunk, cratel1 FatDarrel glommer dogmain4teeth if you adjust your client to irc on 8001 that will stop happening it is a bug in your linksys (maybe netgear)
[02:34] <basbryan> biggots ignore logic (period)
[02:34] <Zenethian> basbryan: actually bigots don't ignore logic, they make up logic to fit their bigotry.
[02:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell dogmain4teeth about verify
[02:34] <LjL> ompaul: i had ubotu tell them already ;)
[02:34] <basbryan> lol
[02:34] <Tom_Kidd> Well, I made $5 today
[02:34] <Tom_Kidd> haha
[02:34] <ompaul> LjL, whats the ! for it?
[02:35] <LjL> ompaul: exploit
[02:35] <basbryan> #offtopic
[02:35] <ompaul> LjL, doh
[02:35] <Tom_Kidd> Ugh, the UT2004 config hides from me!
[02:35] <IdleOne> how do i unzzip a .gz file?
[02:35] <LjL> IdleOne: gunzip
[02:35] <BlueEagle> basbryan: Don't you wish you had a capital period for such sentences? :p
[02:36] <ompaul> IdleOne, tar xzvf foo.gz
[02:36] <basbryan> i do! <capital>period</capital>
[02:36] <ubuntu_> hello?
[02:36] <LjL> ubotu: hello!
[02:36] <ubotu> Hi, ljl!
[02:36] <LjL> i mean ubuntu_
[02:36] <IdleOne> thank you  LjL  and ompaul
[02:36] <ubuntu_> hey
[02:36] <ubuntu_> i couldnt get this client to work before
[02:36] <redguy> ompaul: will it extract the file even if it's not a tar archive?
[02:36] <ubuntu_> ummm, ive got an issue with booting ubuntu
[02:37] <ompaul> redguy, hmm must look :-/
[02:37] <ubuntu_> when it goes to load the desktop all it gives me is a black screen and white line cursor
[02:37] <aroticoz> how do I unmount a virtual cd ?
[02:37] <Tom_Kidd> Bah, wheres the config file for ut2004 :(
[02:37] <basbryan> there should a subnet dedicated to questions like "linux isn't windows"...  heck even i would read it!!!!!
[02:37] <Tom_Kidd> sudo umount /virtual/cd/directory
[02:37] <maxkelley> Tom_Kidd: /etc ?
[02:37] <Unity> aroticoz: do you know about umount?
[02:37] <chuckyp> Whoever was talking about unreal in here what was the last unreal game they made fps wise.  ut2004?
[02:37] <LjL> ubuntu_: a black screen with a login request?
[02:37] <DJ_t> i need to burn an audio cd, whats a good program? Serpentine says that my mp3s are unsupported types
[02:37] <maxkelley> night
[02:37] <bosco> Zenethian,  i need to copy a cd to my hardrive in terminal so how do i do  it to my hard drive so i can play it in XMMS
[02:38] <ubuntu_> LjL : no login request
[02:38] <redguy> ompaul: mine won't, no error message though
[02:38] <BlueEagle> bosco: I think cdrecord should do that for you
[02:38] <redguy> ompaul: strange
[02:38] <LjL> ubuntu_: but you're using xchat right now, aren't you?
[02:38] <ompaul> redguy, point
[02:38] <bosco> ok thank you
[02:38] <BlueEagle> bosco: Not sure tho.
[02:38] <ompaul> IdleOne, ignore me :)
[02:38] <jason> hi folks -- im trying to install xchat 2.6.1 from source  -- apparently, the tools to compile and install from source are not part of the basic breezy install - - what do i need to install to be able to compile this program?
[02:38] <BlueEagle> !info grip
[02:38] <IdleOne> ompaul>  i did :P
[02:38] <ubuntu_> LjL : I'm using the live version of ubuntu.... the installed version won't boot
[02:39] <ubotu> grip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.3.1-2ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 444 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB
[02:39] <Tom_Kidd> jason: Try gcc
[02:39] <LjL> jason: first of all, you need build-essential
[02:39] <basbryan> "/join #linux-isnot-windows"
[02:39] <Zenethian> bosco: I told you, use cdparanoia.  you'll need to read it's manpage
[02:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu, tell bosco about grip
[02:39] <jason> gcc is in
[02:39] <jason> but build essential needs done
[02:39] <BlueEagle> bahh..
[02:39] <Tom_Kidd> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> bosco: grip will rip cds for you apperantly.
[02:39] <curley_sue> !xxkb
[02:39] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, curley_sue
[02:39] <Zenethian> BlueDevil: grip won't work in a terminal.  :P
[02:39] <ompaul> jason install build-essentail
[02:39] <ubuntu_> LjL : I'm using the live version of ubuntu.... the installed version won't boot
[02:39] <LjL> ubuntu_: you should try pressing alt+f1, and see if that gives you a login prompt. if it does, and you can login, you should then be able to type "irssi", followed by "/server irc.freenode.org", followed by "/join #ubuntu" to be back here
[02:40] <ompaul> jason install build-essential even
[02:40] <jason> LOL -- in progress -- thanks
[02:40] <LjL> jason: after that, you'll need a few things. the GTK includes, mainly
[02:40] <ubuntu_> LjL: okay, one minute
[02:40] <jason> ljl -- ok - -thanks
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[02:41] <LjL> jason: you can probably try "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat". while that command will install the dependencies needed to compile xchat 2.4.4, i suppose they could easily be the same as for 2.6
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> help, does someone knows something about apache and auth_digest!!?
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[02:41] <Tom_Kidd> Can wine run under 64-bit OS?
[02:41] <bosco> what is that command
[02:41] <jason> kewl - thanks
[02:41] <redguy> Tom_Kidd: no
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> anyone here use the newest gtkpod ?
[02:42] <Tom_Kidd> Anyone trying to convert it?
[02:42] <pussfeller> yo how do i burn a floppy image
[02:42] <redguy> Tom_Kidd: propably yes, look at www.winehq.org
[02:42] <pussfeller> !floppy
[02:42] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[02:42] <pussfeller> !burnfloppy
[02:42] <ubotu> pussfeller: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:43] <redguy> Tom_Kidd: but you might run it in a 32bit chroot environment
[02:43] <redguy> !tell Tom_Kidd about chroot
[02:43] <LjL> pussfeller: what do you mean "burn a floppy"?
[02:43] <LjL> pussfeller: oh i see
[02:43] <LjL> pussfeller: well it depends what format the image is in
[02:43] <pussfeller> LjL: I wanna make a windows rescue disk
[02:43] <pussfeller> LjL: or rather, an NTFS rescue thingee
[02:43] <ompaul> pussfeller, its too late that should have been done years ago :-)
[02:44] <LjL> pussfeller: if it's a raw image, i guess dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 will work (but check that your floppy is actually /dev/fd0)
[02:44] <Tom_Kidd> Yeah I think I'm going to upgrade to 64-bit dapper and set up a 32-bit chroot
[02:44] <V4Vendetta> Tom_Kidd~ 64bit dapper, that's just asking for problems :-P
[02:44] <Tom_Kidd> Oh well, suck it :>
[02:44] <V4Vendetta> :-P
[02:44] <Tom_Kidd> I need something to do, anyways.
[02:44] <pussfeller> unless someone can tell me why I get all these buffer I/O errrors off the ntfs partition when I try to mount it, but I can mount the vfat Dell thingee at the front
[02:45] <terje_> hi do anyone know how do install skype on ubuntu amd64?
[02:45] <Gyoza> Quick question: To modify a printer setting, should I mess with "printer.conf.O" or "printer.conf"?
[02:45] <JoshRA> !skype
[02:45] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:45] <neil> hello
[02:45] <ompaul> pussfeller, just don't try to write to ntfs from linux
[02:45] <LjL> pussfeller: buffer i/o errors? you sure your HD is not broken?
[02:45] <eth0> could anyone tell me why 'python' would be connecting to a load of hosts?
[02:45] <neil> LjL: This is ubuntu_ from a couple minutes ago
[02:45] <pussfeller> ompaul: I wont, im just trying to rescue some data to make some $$
[02:46] <neil> LjL: I've logged in now from the command prompt
[02:46] <eth0> connecting/connected
[02:46] <LjL> neil: ok, press alt+f2 (alt+f1 will get you back) and try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[02:46] <dogmain4teeth> !gimp
[02:46] <ubotu> [gimp]  at http://www.gimp.org
[02:46] <ompaul> !tell pussfeller about ntfs
[02:46] <pussfeller> LjL: well, you would think its broken, but, why can I access the vfat part?
[02:47] <ompaul> pussfeller, that is about as good as it gets then you can burn it or put it on a key and get on with your life :)
[02:47] <JoshRA> !tell joshra about skype
[02:47] <dogmain4teeth> !verify
[02:47] <ubotu> verify is probably to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[02:47] <LjL> pussfeller: the fat partition might be on a part that is not broken. anyway, i'm not really sure, it's just that buffer i/o error recalls me of a broken HD for some reason (possibly because it happened to me)
[02:47] <LjL> pussfeller: you could install the "smartmontools" package to check
[02:47] <neil> LjL: It gave me a fail message for that command
[02:48] <````bulldogg> hello
[02:48] <LjL> neil: did it say anything more specific, or just that it failed?
[02:48] <redguy> pussfeller: it might as well be broken/loose IDE cable or faulty controller
[02:48] <neil> LjL: "Starting GNOME display manager....           [fail] "
[02:48] <Tom_Kidd> Is there anywhere where I can get a minimalistic copy of dapper or is the only iso available full version?
[02:48] <````bulldogg> can someone help me out.... its kind of a pain...
[02:48] <Tom_Kidd> I don't really need X-Server etc
[02:48] <Tom_Kidd> x-*
[02:49] <NickGarvey> Tom_Kidd: read the title of this room
[02:49] <ompaul> Tom_Kidd, get the full gig and then just install server as the machine comes up it is the first option
[02:49] <NickGarvey> I don't know what dapper is but theres a diff room for it
[02:49] <LjL> neil: i see. try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", it will ask you a few questions, most of which can probably be answered by just pressing Enter and using the default answer (but do check what they're asking). when it asks about resolutions that you want to use, choose a "safe" one, like 800x600
[02:49] <basbryan> ubunt+1
[02:49] <Tom_Kidd> ompaul: Was trying to avoid wasting bandwidth, anyway.
[02:49] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:49] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[02:49] <redguy> !tell ````bulldogg about ask
[02:50] <pussfeller> redguy: thats not it, but thats a good idea
[02:50] <eth0> could anyone tell me why 'python' would be connected to a load of hosts?
[02:50] <````bulldogg> okay.. here goes... I have a copy of breezy installed on this computer... I have an ATI Radeon x700 Pro with 256 also installed.... I can only use the gui if I use the vesa driver..... I have went out to ati downloaded the drive done many howto's... the 3D Acceleration is not working
[02:50] <redguy> pussfeller: anyway, smartmontools is the way to go
[02:50] <jimcooncat> I installed vmware server. Now I have a patched kernel. Do you have some docs for dealing with apt-get and patched kernels?
[02:50] <redguy> !tell ````bulldogg about ati
[02:51] <redguy> ````bulldogg: read the wiki page ubotu sent you
[02:51] <pussfeller> eth0: python is a language, like c or ruby, and if you see "python something" in like a ps then a python powered program is running
[02:51] <pussfeller> or maybe you already know that
[02:51] <````bulldogg> okay thanks
[02:51] <LjL> neil: oh, i mean, make sure you choose *only* that one safe resolution, and that all others are unchecked
[02:51] <basbryan> eth0:listen to puss
[02:52] <pussfeller> alot of scripts use  python, expecially in irc/im clients
[02:52] <basbryan> and gdesklets...
[02:52] <redguy> eth0: nicotine, for example, is a python program
[02:52] <eth0> pussfeller: ah i c, yea i know that python was a language
[02:52] <pussfeller> do ps ax | grep python and tell us what it says
[02:52] <LjL> in the pastebin if it's more than one line, thanks
[02:53] <V4Vendetta> how long does a work unit on folding @ home usually take?
[02:53] <V4Vendetta> i have f@H running on my shell account.
[02:53] <pussfeller> you can also do nestat -autvnp and it should tell you what prog is running on what port, unless it just says, python
[02:53] <mikeazorin> should i install ubuntu on my xp computer
[02:53] <basbryan> netstat*??
[02:53] <V4Vendetta> mikeazorin~ if you want
[02:53] <basbryan> mike:yes
[02:54] <mikeazorin> what will i get out of it
[02:54] <redguy> V4Vendetta: this depends on the processing power of the machine
[02:54] <mikeazorin> how will my computer be more functional
[02:54] <DoTheRodeo_> ey. how do you kill gnome-panel?
[02:54] <V4Vendetta> redguy~ it's a server
[02:54] <V4Vendetta> redguy~ it's freebsd, how do i figure out what processor it has?
[02:55] <basbryan> "a computer without windows is like a dog without a brick on it's head"    i can't recall where i stole that from
[02:55] <javiolo> anyone here owns a embedded machine? Id like to setup a backup server
[02:55] <redguy> V4Vendetta: no idea
[02:55] <redguy> V4Vendetta: maybe there is /proc/cpuinfo, but I doubt it
[02:55] <Toma> mikeazorin, its alot more configurable, mine looks a little like MacOS cross with XP... you also wont have to download pirated software :D theres a linux program for just about every purpose...
[02:55] <pussfeller> err netstat
[02:56] <chuckyp> How do you delete something from the applications menu.  Package was already removed via apt-get but it left a link behind In Applications.
[02:56] <mikeazorin> i don't download pirate software on windows, only on mac
[02:56] <tristanmike> lol
[02:56] <V4Vendetta> redguy~ nope
[02:56] <ali4728> I have static IP at home for internet connection and dynamic IP for elsewhere for my laptop wireless connection. Is there a program that can save me from having to reconfigure /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:56] <Toma> well mikeazorin, just about everything for linux is GPL, meaning its free + free...
[02:57] <bimberi> chuckyp: Applications -> System Tools -> Menu Editor (iirc)
[02:57] <pussfeller> ali4728: i know kubuntu has multiple network profiles, i dont know about the gnome tools
[02:57] <mikeazorin> i'm familiar with the gpl, gpl applications, and somewhat with linux. i just can't figure out why i should use linux.
[02:57] <neil> LjL: so I did that... and now I'm back to a command prompt
[02:57] <Toma> mikeazorin, have you tried it?
[02:57] <LjL> neil: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start again
[02:58] <chuckyp> bimberi, delete is greyed out.
[02:58] <DoTheRodeo_> ey. how do you kill gnome-panel?
[02:58] <pussfeller> cause apple and windows are evil?
[02:58] <pussfeller> err MS
[02:58] <Toma> evil because they make money?
[02:58] <mikeazorin> yea, i've tried it before. mandrake, gentoo, ubuntu, knoppix.
[02:58] <pussfeller> no....
[02:58] <cafuego> mikeazorin: You don't _have_ to.
[02:58] <bimberi> chuckyp: hmmk
[02:58] <basbryan> because gpl won't increase your license fee by 300%
[02:58] <jon_> mikeazorin, I use linux because it's an adventure.   It's free.  It's a computer tweakers heaven.
[02:58] <Toma> mikeazorin, give the live cd a run before installing if u want
[02:59] <ali4728> pussfeller, thanks! Is "whereami" program for multiple network configs?
[02:59] <jon_> mikeazorin, Plus I don't want my computer raided by the MS police ;)
[02:59] <basbryan> which is what i have been told my vb.net app will cost us
[02:59] <basbryan> because they steal it
[02:59] <basbryan> #offtopic?
[02:59] <Toma> mikeazorin, i guess linux or even mac will be the future after vista takes a high-dive onto a solid metal surface
[02:59] <LjL> basbryan: actually, my GPL licence fees for ubuntu have just increased by 2430% ;-) anyway, yeah, offtopic i guess
[03:00] <mikeazorin> toma: meaning unix... i use mac os x on my ibook
[03:00] <chuckyp> bimberi, nevermind I unchecked it and it appears it deleted it.   Is there a way to reload gnome menu isn't it killall -9 gnome-panel or something?
[03:00] <basbryan> ljl your ubuntu license went from free to not free?
[03:00] <neil> LjL: It failed again
[03:00] <Toma> mikeazorin, no, MacOSX for x86
[03:00] <mikeazorin> toma: incompatible with my chipset
[03:00] <Toma> :(
[03:00] <bimberi> chuckyp: 'killall gnome-panel' should do, no need to be brutal :)
[03:00] <LjL> basbryan: no, it went from 0.00 to 24,3 times 0.00
[03:01] <Morfosomo> how can i find out if my computer has a pci-e slot without opening it?
[03:01] <basbryan> 24X0 is 0
[03:01] <basbryan> or am i confused?
[03:01] <brenner> Morfosomo: read the manual? :P
[03:01] <pussfeller> why not just open it?
[03:01] <Toma> Morfosomo, check your motherboard box?
[03:01] <mikeazorin> morfosomo, look it up on google
[03:01] <LjL> neil: don't really know what is going on. you could try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to download any updates/fixes that were released
[03:01] <pussfeller> i ussually use a hammer to get mine open
[03:01] <Toma> 24x0 = 0
[03:01] <ompaul> mikeazorin, maybe it is not for you, however this is not a linux discussion channel it is support move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want discussion thanks
[03:02] <basbryan> ljl: u r paying for ubuntu or ubuntu support?
[03:02] <IdleOne> -
[03:02] <IdleOne> 9
[03:02] <Toma> dist-upgrade? no.
[03:02] <chuckyp> bimberi, nah didn't work still there.  I even tried sudo smeg and unchekcing it that way.  Still didn't work.
[03:02] <IdleOne> +-++++++++++++c
[03:02] <IdleOne> 90jh
[03:02] <Morfosomo> yay great there a lin command for that,.. yeah i ll GOOGLE for it and let you guys know
[03:02] <ompaul> IdleOne, ?
[03:02] <basbryan> ubuntu is free
[03:02] <jimcooncat> I installed vmware server. Now I have a patched kernel. Do you have some docs for dealing with apt-get and patched kernels?
[03:02] <neil> LgL: could it have something to do with having an nVidia card?
[03:02] <basbryan> as is all linux
[03:02] <LjL> basbryan: you're not confused. it was a *joke*. technically, i can surely say that my fees increased by any% since they went from 0 to x times 0
[03:02] <basbryan> HAHAHA
[03:02] <neil> LjL: could it have something to do with having an nVidia card?
[03:02] <basbryan> good one
[03:03] <basbryan> that beats our vb increase
[03:03] <Toma> i hae technicallity jokes...
[03:03] <Toma> *hate
[03:03] <LjL> neil: don't think. if it's working with the live cd, it should be working on your HD too
[03:03] <Toma> theres more explaining than laughing involved
[03:03] <bimberi> chuckyp: sorry, i'm not sure from here :|
[03:03] <LjL> neil: my opinion is that something went wrong during install
[03:03] <neil> LjL: okay, well i'll see what I can do with another install
[03:04] <IdleOne> ;;hppp xcc
[03:04] <LjL> neil: i'd give the dist-upgrade a try first tho
[03:04] <neil> LjL: ya, i will
[03:04] <LjL> neil: at least if you've got a faster connection, otherwise it may be quicker to reinstall
[03:05] <LjL> uh?
[03:05] <chuckyp> hrm... Anyone else no how to delete something from applications menu in gnome.  tried Applications>system tools>applications menu editor and delete is greyed out.
[03:05] <basbryan> which irc channel discusses things like SCO vs IBM in a lively fashion?
[03:05] <brenner> what did idle do?
[03:05] <Toma> silly
[03:06] <LjL> ompaul, i don't think idleone was trying to do anything bad
[03:06] <LjL> though, hmm
[03:06] <ompaul> na I think something is hitting his keyboard - has been for a little while
[03:06] <basbryan> lol
[03:06] <LjL> yeah you're right looks like raw PPP or something
[03:06] <ompaul> whan then happend was me http://folding.stanford.edu/
[03:06] <ompaul> woo
[03:07] <basbryan> is there a groklaw irc?
[03:07] <ompaul> whan then happend was me making a mistake I did not do the message correctly so we got msg as modes
[03:07] <ompaul> basbryan, check on groklaw there is something
[03:07] <Toma> ahhhhh +msg hahah
[03:08] <Toma> i c now
[03:08] <LjL> aw :)
[03:08] <Toma> root_, im guessing youre using root?
[03:08] <Toma> and ure from WA? :D
[03:08] <joss> hola
[03:09] <tedda> hi can anyone help me, im trying to install skype, but it says package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[03:09] <````bulldogg> still couldn't get it to work
[03:09] <Toma> :)
[03:09] <tedda> woot do i need to do?
[03:09] <````bulldogg> no 3d acceleratoin.. I do the gears and they barely move
[03:09] <Raovq> there we go
[03:09] <LjL> ompaul: nevermind the raw PPP (if anything it could look like raw modem data anyway), it does just look like something's hitting his kb ;)
[03:10] <Toma> tedda, youll need to find a 64bit version of syke, afaik, it doesnt exist...
[03:10] <LjL> hope it's not the dog. not if it's a big dog anyway
[03:10] <Raovq> does anyone know how to fix this?The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:10] <Raovq>   opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable
[03:10] <basbryan> google groklaw and irc gives me...   didn't work
[03:10] <tedda> :(
[03:10] <brenner> what's with cats and k/boards?  everyone seems to guess it's the cat's fault
[03:10] <Toma> tedda, there is another way
[03:10] <LjL> brenner: do you have a better guess? =)
[03:10] <brenner> basbryan: most people would talk about that on a newsgroup or forum
[03:11] <tedda> :) and the way is?
[03:11] <basbryan> kk
[03:11] <brenner> LjL: no...ut it's always the cat. :)
[03:11] <brenner> s/ut/but
[03:11] <Toma> tedda, youre not using kde are you?
[03:12] <tedda> em im sorry, i just installed linux today, its the first time i use linux :(
[03:12] <tedda> woot is kde?
[03:13] <ompaul> tedda, a good resource is docs.ubuntu.com bookmark that one
[03:13] <chuckyp> tedda, You really should read the wiki for the post install steps etc.. there is a lot of good information in there.
[03:13] <brenner> Raovq: install the qt package
[03:13] <shiv> is there a way to reduce the boot time? Mine gets stuck on configuring networks for at least 2 minutes :(
[03:13] <brenner> Raovq: libqt3c102-mt that is
[03:13] <LjL> tedda: a desktop environment. it's something that gives you panels, taskbars, that sort of thing, and integration between (compliant) applications. the one you're currently using is probably not KDE but Gnome
[03:13] <brenner> shiv: there's a forum topic on that
[03:13] <Raovq> brenner, ive tried sudo apt-get -f install
[03:13] <Toma> tedda, its another desktop environment... if you installed ubuntu, youll be using gnome as the desktop environment. if you installed kubuntu, youll be using KDE. this way of installing skype will break all KDE apps. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77069&page=2#13
[03:13] <chuckyp> tedda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:14] <brenner> Raovq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:14] <LjL> Raovq: that's not what you should try. rather, you should simply try "sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt"
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> LjL~ that doesn't exist
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> LjL~ i've had that problem
[03:14] <tedda> i have installed ubunto so im useing gnome then ;)
[03:15] <brenner> Raovq: it's called libqt3-mt
[03:15] <Toma> shiv, initng, but the smarter thing to do would be to find out whats holding up networking, try running in recovery mode and see the output from when it stalls?
[03:15] <aroticoz> how can I copy files in the terminal ?
[03:15] <LjL> V4Vendetta, Raovq : you're right, it's my fault. i was doing that on SSH to my Debian, didn't notice
[03:15] <Toma> aroticoz, cp
[03:15] <aroticoz> thanks
[03:15] <Toma> ubotu, tell aroticoz about cli
[03:15] <LjL> V4Vendetta: ("doing that" i mean the apt-cache show)
[03:15] <aroticoz> ty
[03:15] <Toma> np :)
[03:15] <DanielSHaischt> hello, I am trying to dist-upgrade a debian system to dapper. unfortunatly at the time I am getting an arror in /var/lib/dpkg/info/initscripts.postinst ...
[03:16] <V4Vendetta> question, how do i setup email on a shell server
[03:16] <DanielSHaischt> line 'mount -n --move /var/run /tmp/.var.run' at the near end of the file fails with a permission denied
[03:16] <shiv> sure thanks but I am a newbie am do not know much of this. Let me try to play with it
[03:16] <Raovq> age libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[03:16] <brenner> debian -> dapper?  is that even possible?
[03:16] <Raovq> same with libqt3-mt
[03:16] <V4Vendetta> is DALnet down?
[03:16] <devians> how do i find out where apt put a package?
[03:17] <LjL> Raovq: i suppose you downloaded the Ubuntu deb from www.opera.com?
[03:17] <chuckyp> THis is really annoying.
[03:17] <brenner> !info libqt3-mt
[03:17] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[03:17] <Raovq> ljl: i did
[03:17] <Raovq> was that wrong?
[03:17] <Toma> isnt the ubuntu deb from opera broken?
[03:17] <LjL> Raovq: no
[03:17] <LjL> Raovq: well, if toma is right, then yes, i suppose
[03:17] <chuckyp> Unable to remove an item from applications menu.  In applications menu editor if I right click delete is greyed out.
[03:17] <Toma> last i heard it was. try the debian package
[03:18] <sdghsgh> anybody here run mpich on ubuntu?
[03:18] <Raovq> the tar.gz one?
[03:18] <sdghsgh> the deb one
[03:18] <eletido> is there a preference I can change to make apt-get/Synaptic look in the repository instead of the Ubuntu cd for a package?
[03:18] <Toma> ahhh whats the URL Raovq ?
[03:18] <chuckyp> Any ideas?
[03:18] <Raovq> for opera?
[03:18] <brenner> chuckyp: what is it?
[03:18] <LjL> eletido: comment out the CD line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:18] <Toma> eletido, yeh, remove it from your sources.list
[03:18] <oatis_> Has anyone got MySQLi to work with PHP5 on dapper?
[03:18] <Raovq> http://opera.com/download/
[03:19] <Toma> eletido, or uncheck it in synaptic
[03:19] <ufo> oatis, yes it works
[03:19] <eletido> ok, thanks guys.
[03:19] <McJerry> has there been a fix for eth0 ? when I reboot I have to ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get internet working
[03:19] <jimcooncat> I installed vmware server. Now I have a patched kernel. Do you have some docs for dealing with apt-get and patched kernels?
[03:19] <oatis_> ufo, how come there is no php5-mysqli package available via apt?
[03:19] <Toma> !opera
[03:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:19] <Raovq> i downloaded both packages, but i could only find instructions on how to install the .deb
[03:19] <chuckyp> brenner, What is what?  Oh its a package I removed via apt that didn't quite get rid of the launcher in applications menu.
[03:20] <slew> hi, is it possible to enable high-bit ascii in linux?
[03:20] <ufo> try that for sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9880
[03:20] <brenner> chuckyp: where is it located?
[03:20] <brenner> in the menu i mean
[03:21] <Anpheus> Hello
[03:21] <QbY> i need to access my Windows XP partition on my dual boot machine; can anyone point me to a doc that will show me how..
[03:21] <ufo> !ntfs
[03:21] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:21] <redguy> !ntfs
[03:21] <brenner> ubotu: tell QbY about ntfs
[03:21] <redguy> hah
[03:21] <slew> hehe
[03:21] <sdghsgh> !mpich
[03:21] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sdghsgh
[03:21] <Anpheus> I would like instructions as to utilizing my RT2500-based PCI Wireless Card
[03:21] <sdghsgh> :|
[03:22] <chuckyp> brenner, in the applications menu
[03:22] <McJerry> can someone help me resolve network eth0 resolving issue on reboot
[03:22] <McJerry> when I reboot i have to ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to reestablish internet connectivity
[03:22] <chuckyp> brenner, it added it directly under system tools. right inthe root of applications menu.
[03:24] <brenner> chuckyp: *nod* sorry, i don't know.  if you can't remove it, that means it needs to be done via apt.  afaik.
[03:24] <chuckyp> brenner, No its been removed via apt already.
[03:25] <chuckyp> brenner, I just need to remove the link in the applications menu is all.
[03:25] <engla> '/W 10
[03:25] <engla> duh
[03:25] <brenner> chuckyp: yeah, but you didn't create the link i assume. the apt install did.  therefore the apt remove should remove the link
[03:25] <oatis_> is it safe to use packages from dotdeb.org?
[03:25] <IdleOne> :)
[03:26] <ompaul> wb
[03:26] <IdleOne> thank you  ompaul  and sorry about that keyboard malfunction
[03:26] <Raovq> is there a way i can download the libqt3 packages?
[03:26] <bimberi> chuckyp: perhaps an 'apt-get remove --purge' would remove it
[03:26] <ompaul> np
[03:26] <brenner> IdleOne: was it your cat?
[03:26] <IdleOne> brenner>  was my baby girl
[03:26] <bimberi> close :P
[03:26] <IdleOne> brenner>  funny thing is we got 2 kittens today :)
[03:27] <chuckyp> bimberi, its removed already THe package is gone but the menu item is still there.  which links to nothing.
[03:27] <DaNeon> why i can't use su?
[03:27] <IdleOne> !tell DaNeon  about sudo
[03:27] <oatis_> Is it safe to use the dotdeb.org repository for Dapper?
[03:27] <DaNeon> thanks IdleOne
[03:27] <IdleOne> DaNeon>  no problem
[03:27] <ompaul> DaNeon, it is not the way that we do it in Ubuntu :-) try sudo you will like it
[03:28] <bimberi> chuckyp: yes, and i reckon that should remove the menu option too, but a --purge takes config files and the menu might have been considered a config file (in this case)
[03:28] <] [> whoo time to register
[03:28] <QbY> anyone know why everything i do i get, "can't .... read-only filesystem"
[03:28] <QbY> when its my hd?
[03:28] <IdleOne> QbY>  its a ntfs right
[03:28] <QbY> no no no..
[03:28] <DaNeon> IdleOne: i mean.. i need to use su for a shell script
[03:28] <] [> QbY: are you in single user mode?
[03:28] <QbY> under my ubuntu
[03:28] <DaNeon> i dopesn't work if i use sudo
[03:28] <QbY> not the ntfs i want to mount, but my regular..
[03:28] <QbY> ] [ -- I don't believe so..
[03:29] <] [> QbY: type "mount" and check if / is mounted ro or rw
[03:29] <QbY> ... /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:29] <brenner> oatis: #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[03:29] <oatis_> brenner, thanks
[03:29] <DaNeon> IdleOne:  i can't use sudo to run a shell script.. it ask me to use su
[03:30] <brenner> oatis: my guess is no.  you should astick to the official sources
[03:30] <IdleOne> DaNeon>  I dont know about shell scripts maybe someone else can help :/
[03:30] <] [> QbY: do this command: `touch ~/me`
[03:30] <DaNeon> ok IdleOne no problem
[03:30] <abunto> how do i add a program to the menu, i just added a program with apt-get but it is not on the games menu!
[03:30] <QbY> ] [ - touch: cannot touch `/home/kelvin/me': Read-only file system
[03:31] <vladuz976> does anybodyhere have experience using revtex with latex?
[03:31] <brenner> abunto: create your own entry
[03:31] <brenner> abunto: use the menu editor in apps>sys
[03:31] <abunto> thank you
[03:32] <] [> QbY: i think it mounted ro because there was an error on the file system
[03:32] <QbY> oh gawd what else can go wrong tonight
[03:32] <] [> QbY: you may have to log into single user mode and run fsck
[03:32] <DanielSHaischt> can I skip the install of a specific package with apt? for example if that particular package producess an error
[03:32] <xPatriot83> Hey, anyone here want to talk to a newbie for a sec?
[03:32] <ompaul> !anyone
[03:32] <] [> QbY: but don't take my word for it; i'm pretty now at linux
[03:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:33] <xPatriot83> I have some rather "stupid" questions regarding an Ubuntu install.
[03:33] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  shoot in here and maybe we will all talk to you :)
[03:33] <xPatriot83> I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna get cursed out for being new at this.. lol
[03:33] <] [> QbY: and i don't want to believe linux would let something like that happen unless you have faulty hardware
[03:33] <xPatriot83> I've not been received warmly by the "linux community"
[03:33] <Syco54645> does anyone know the default theme for kde in kubuntu?
[03:33] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  this is not a regular community :)
[03:33] <jon_> xPatriot83, It depends on where you go, what you ask etc. ;)
[03:33] <QbY> ] [ - Well, I have a good idea why its faulty.. and its about to happen again :)
[03:33] <] [> Syco54645: LipStick?
[03:33] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: is it produces an error, the best solution is to resolve it, not bypass and force the install
[03:33] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  Ubuntians Rock!
[03:34] <xPatriot83> Is there anything I should know about installing ubuntu as part of a multi-boot situation with Win XP?
[03:34] <xPatriot83> LOL.. Y'all seem fun.
[03:34] <brenner> *if* it produces an error
[03:34] <IdleOne> !tell xPatriot83  about dualboot
[03:34] <xPatriot83> LOL
[03:34] <jon_> xPatriot83, Just don't erase your windows partition ;)
[03:34] <chuckyp> Doesn't gnome use an xml file or something similiar for the menus?
[03:34] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  look for a msg from ubotu  it has a link in there that will help
[03:34] <Staz> !tell xPatriot83  about dualboot
[03:34] <QbY> ] [ how do i get to single user mode and fsck?
[03:34] <Staz> !tell Staz  about dualboot
[03:34] <] [> Syco54645: lipstick is the widget set and plastik is the window decorations
[03:35] <xPatriot83> I was just thinking about Grub ... Bootloader.. I've got a separate HD for Ubuntu. :-)
[03:35] <brenner> QbY: boot into recovery mode maybe?
[03:35] <xPatriot83> Basically, I need to know if I have to tweak Grub for Win XP/Ubuntu or if it will figure itself out, like SuSE.
[03:35] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: that certain pakage gives me an error (permission denied while mounting a dir) which I am unable to resolve right now. thus I did ask whether it is possible to skip that pakage
[03:35] <QbY> well..  lets try that.
[03:35] <IdleOne> !tell xPatriot83  about grub
[03:35] <Syco54645> ] [: thanks
[03:35] <] [> QbY: i think `sudo shutdown` brings it to single user mode and the `fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1` should check the filesystem and fix errors
[03:36] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: like i said, the best thing to do is resolve it.  pastebin the command and error/s you get
[03:36] <xPatriot83> Awesome..
[03:36] <xPatriot83> Answered my question rather effectively.
[03:36] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  glad to hear
[03:37] <xPatriot83> IdleOne: So you guys seem fun..
[03:37] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  paypal to idleone $5 US
[03:37] <IdleOne> :P
[03:37] <IdleOne> xPatriot83>  we try :)
[03:37] <xPatriot83> LMAO.. Let me verify my Paypal account and I will think about it. :-)
[03:37] <shiv_> what does this mean? /.icons$
[03:37] <xPatriot83> Hmm..
[03:37] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: -> http://pastebin.com/592015
[03:38] <IdleOne> shiv>  /.icons is a hidden folder
[03:38] <Unity> shiv: in a shell, that means you're under the directory /.icons
[03:38] <IdleOne> the . means hidden
[03:38] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: what command are you running?
[03:38] <Unity> shiv: which shouldn't be a directory right under the root of the fs...
[03:38] <shiv> how do I put stuff in this folder. I am trying to install some cursors?
[03:38] <brenner> shiv: mouse cursors?
[03:39] <shiv> ya
[03:39] <shiv> i mean cursors in gerneral
[03:39] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:39] <brenner> sys>prefs>theme>drag and drop the archive
[03:40] <xPatriot83> Alright.. one last thought.. Has anyone had any problems installing Ubuntu on Gateway Desktop PCs?
[03:40] <shiv> see pastebin
[03:40] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: are you going from breezy to dapper?
[03:40] <brenner> ubotu: tell xPatriot83 about hardware
[03:40] <xPatriot83> LMAO
[03:40] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: nope I tried to go from debian sarge 3.1 to dapper
[03:40] <xPatriot83> ubotu is so useful.
[03:40] <ubotu> xPatriot83: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <brenner> xPatriot83: you can check there.  some people may have made forum topics @ ubuntuforums.org as well
[03:41] <shiv> how do I navigate to this hidden directory?
[03:41] <Metaltron> !dell
[03:41] <ubotu> Metaltron: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <xPatriot83> That wasn't as helpful.
[03:41] <GMachine_24> Hi - I messed up my Firefox settings and now when I right click on a URL, e.g., I don't get the friendly 'open in new window' 'open as tab' suggestions, i get a whole bunch of stuff i don't need such as "View Original Document of Quotation" and "Extensions", etc. I realize I chose these settings when Firefox loaded one time - but I cannot figure out how to undo my choice. Is it possible?
[03:41] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: ah, ok.  i don't know if debian->dapper is possible.  but maybe you should ask in #ubuntu+1 as well
[03:42] <xPatriot83> Worst case scenario, everything important is on an external drive.. :-)
[03:42] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: what do u mean with ubuntu+1, is that a channel name?
[03:42] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: yes.  for dapper discussion
[03:42] <javiolo> isnt mail app installed by default ?
[03:42] <DanielSHaischt> brenner: and for what is ubuntu-devel?
[03:42] <nickrud> javiolo: if you mean mail server, no
[03:43] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: developers
[03:43] <javiolo> I mean mail
[03:43] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: but the first questionj you should ask is if you can move fom sarge to dapper
[03:43] <brenner> does anyone in here know?
[03:43] <javiolo> dont know if its the same
[03:43] <nickrud> javiolo: evolution, under Applications->INternet
[03:43] <javiolo> no
[03:43] <jetscreamer> heh
[03:43] <javiolo> type on terminal mail
[03:43] <nickrud> brenner: probably not
[03:44] <jetscreamer> will it hurt to try, if you would have to erase everything if it didn't?
[03:44] <brenner> DanielSHaischt: there you go.  no wonder you're getting errors
[03:44] <jetscreamer> see also mutt
[03:45] <Unity> command line =(
[03:45] <DanielSHaischt> nickrud: did u mean that it is not possible to dist-upgrade from debian sarge 3.1 to dapper?
[03:45] <Unity> how can you folks remember all those keybindings? it's insane
[03:46] <nickrud> DanielSHaischt: yeah, I'd say it's not a sane thing. Not to say that, with a lot of stroking, it can't be done.
[03:46] <nickrud> Unity: you mean mutts?
[03:46] <DanielSHaischt> nickrud: and would it be possible to dist-upgrade at least to breezy?
[03:46] <GMachine_24> so, anyone? know how to reset firefox settings to 'default' (i.e. as originally configured)
[03:47] <Unity> nickrud: i mean anything that runs in screen
[03:47] <nickrud> DanielSHaischt: I've seen people try, and some claim success.
[03:47] <Unity> nickrud: especially emacs and vim
[03:47] <nickrud> Unity: I don't use emacs (too many keystrokes) and use vim sparingly.
[03:47] <Unity> oh no eth0 is gone
[03:48] <Unity> ifup eth0
[03:49] <cyphase> aha!
[03:49] <cyphase> i got an idea
[03:49] <nickrud> Unity: I make heavy use of the man pages for options, but probably only use 40-50 commands at all
[03:49] <V4Vendetta> wget is the best program ever
[03:49] <cyphase> someone should make a Google pack clone for only open source software
[03:49] <V4Vendetta> i love it.
[03:50] <cyphase> for Windows and ma
[03:50] <cyphase> Mac*
[03:50] <javiolo> jetscreamer what ?
[03:51] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, maybe not the best, but up there :). I use GWGet, which is a GUI for wget
[03:51] <chuckyp> Figured it out.  Transgamming added files to /etc/X11/applink  which was causing the problem.  smeg was unable to remove them.
[03:51] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ i like how it isn't a gui
[03:51] <chuckyp> Just removed the files manually and restarted gnome-panel
[03:51] <jetscreamer> ubuntu
[03:51] <AngryElf> where's the file that enables repositories for apt-get??
[03:51] <bimberi> chuckyp: ah, well done
[03:52] <nickrud> AngryElf: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:52] <javiolo> jetscreamer sorry I dont understand what you said
[03:52] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, me too, but a GUI is nice too. and having it installed allows me to use it as a download manager for firefox
[03:52] <cyphase> or anything else really
[03:52] <jetscreamer> javiolo: nm not important
[03:52] <chuckyp> back to learning c++
[03:52] <edgekaos> where can I find mod_dav_svn.so?
[03:52] <nickrud> cyphase: can you drag & drop to gwget?
[03:52] <jetscreamer> javiolo: 'other chan'
[03:52] <cyphase> nickrud, i think so
[03:53] <javiolo> jetscreamer ok...
[03:53] <Bean> I was downloading a file from an ftp server that I have set up a connection to in Nautilus, while copying a file I changed firewall settings so it halted. And now I can't close the "copying files" window, it's acting like it's still dl'ing except bar doesn't move.
[03:53] <cyphase> nickrud, i know that if you right click and click "New", it automatically adds what's in your clipboard if it's a valid url
[03:53] <cyphase> right click on the tray icon that is
[03:53] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ now that im interested in ....
[03:53] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ how do i set that up
[03:53] <nickrud> cyphase: ah, that's close, and the tray icon is new since the last time I looked
[03:53] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, sudo apt-get install gwget
[03:54] <cyphase> or synaptic of course
[03:54] <cyphase> nickrud, it might allow drag and drop
[03:54] <cyphase> 1 sec
[03:54] <cyphase> nickrud, you can drag to the tray icon :)
[03:54] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ how do i use gwget for firefox?
[03:55] <nickrud> cyphase: ok, I'm gonna kick the tires again, thanks
[03:55] <cyphase> nickrud, my pleasure
[03:55] <wastrel> kick the tires
[03:55] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, install the Flashgot plugin
[03:55] <V4Vendetta> where do i get that apt?
[03:55] <javiolo> jetscreamer can you solve my questions ?
[03:55] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, it's in the repos
[03:56] <V4Vendetta> hmm i can't find it
[03:56] <nickrud> wastrel: a phrase from before steel belted tires ;)
[03:56] <cyphase> maybe you haven't added universe..
[03:56] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, yea, it's in universe
[03:56] <V4Vendetta> i have
[03:56] <V4Vendetta> but i can't find it
[03:56] <cyphase> hmm
[03:56] <cyphase> gwget
[03:56] <hou5ton> when I have both a wired and a wireless connection activated, Ubuntu doesn't use either one of them.  I have to deactivate one of them.  Is there a way for Ubuntu to sort this out?
[03:57] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ it's okay, because it installs directly into FF
[03:57] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ okay, i got flashgot and gwget now
[03:57] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, oooooohh, you meant flashgot isn't in the repos
[03:57] <V4Vendetta> okay i got them both, what now
[03:57] <Bean> How do I halt or close a single Nautilus window ("copying files" from an ftp) ? That doesn't respond to the X or "Cancel"
[03:57] <chuckyp> Whats a good c++ editory to use.  Syntax checking etc...
[03:57] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, configure flashgot
[03:57] <V4Vendetta> Bean~ use xkill
[03:58] <cyphase> Bean, killall nautilus
[03:58] <wastrel> chuckyp:  anjuta  maybe
[03:58] <Bean> V4Vendetta, thanks!
[03:58] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, in Firefox, go to Tools -> Flashgot -> More Options
[03:58] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ okay, i got it
[03:58] <mrnicksgirl> downloading ubuntu now... :)
[03:58] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, ok
[03:58] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ it's set for gnome gwget
[03:58] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, that's it
[03:59] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ now just dl?
[03:59] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, flashgot autodetects
[03:59] <jetscreamer> javiolo: it's to read mail with. man mail. it does what mutt does afaict, but not in as 'pretty' a fashion... which isn't saying much, mutt is functional not pretty.
[03:59] <jetscreamer> man mail
[03:59] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i'm not sure what's default and what's not..
[03:59] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ hmm my dl still started in the FF manager ..
[03:59] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, the actual download, or the pre download window?
[04:00] <javiolo> jetscreamer looks mail is not available on man pages
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ the download
[04:00] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, it won't override it like that
[04:00] <FarSe3r> Hello, I have a flat TFT screen wich uses 60Hz in windows. I guess this 60Hz is the optimal rate, but ubuntu uses 74Hz and the display is a bit fuzzy. How can I change it to 60Hz ??
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ how does it work?
[04:00] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, 1 sec
[04:00] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, lemme find the right config settings
[04:00] <wastrel> FarSe3r:  edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file  -  save a backup first
[04:01] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, open the flashgot settings window
[04:01] <V4Vendetta> open
[04:01] <FarSe3r> wastrel, ok. Does most LCD TFT use 60Hz ? is that vertical or horizontal rate?
[04:01] <FarSe3r> wastrel, thanks btw :)
[04:01] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, in the "General" tab, select GNOME Gwget and check all 3 chckmarks
[04:01] <cyphase> checkmarks*
[04:01] <jetscreamer> javiolo: then the program named mail is not installed i suppose
[04:01] <V4Vendetta> okay
[04:01] <V4Vendetta> done.
[04:02] <KoruptPryde> how do I hide connected network servers from the gnome desktop?
[04:02] <jetscreamer> javiolo: just type mutt?
[04:02] <javiolo> jetscreamer mail is not available in apt-get
[04:02] <pc22> tried audacity:  it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[04:02] <cyphase> in the "Menu" tab, check "FlashGot Link", "Hide Disabled Sommands", and "Compact context menu"
[04:02] <FarSe3r> tonyyr
[04:02] <javiolo> but mutt its on apt-get
[04:02] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, unselect everything else
[04:02] <FarSe3r> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:02] <wastrel> FarSe3r:  i actually know nothing about LCD's
[04:03] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, let's go into a private chat
[04:03] <V4Vendetta> cyphase~ okay thanks
[04:03] <FarSe3r> wastrel, me neither ;) but thanks anyway
[04:03] <jetscreamer> javiolo: ok so what's the deal then
[04:03] <WhiteNoise> KoruptPryde, one way would be to mount them in console, and keep the mountpoint out of /etc/fstab
[04:03] <Makura> Can I get some help from someone? =] 
[04:03] <jetscreamer> javiolo: afaict it's some ugly non-user friendly mail client
[04:03] <Bean> FarSe3r, I don't believe you measure LCD refresh rates in that way.
[04:03] <jetscreamer> !info mail
[04:04] <bimberi> KoruptPryde: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, /apps/nautilus/desktop, volumes_visible, uncheck
[04:04] <KoruptPryde> WhiteNoise: gnome vfs mounts
[04:04] <wastrel> FarSe3r:  my desktop's lcd was autodetected, sez horiz is 30-60hz, vert is 60-75
[04:04] <Madpilot> Makura, asking an actual question might get an actual answer :P
[04:04] <Makura> Madpilot: I have many many questions...  I'm completely new to Linux and I'm having problems installing the Ubuntu distro
[04:04] <javiolo> jetscreamer I want one to send me for example when an update of certain app is available
[04:04] <KoruptPryde> bimberi: any idea how I change the menu icons to be 16px instead of 22px?
[04:04] <javiolo> I think mutt could do that
[04:05] <nickrud> javiolo: try xmail
[04:05] <FarSe3r> Bean, hm.. ok. Well I know its not the same as CRT rate.. tried to find some docs on google about this but found none :/
[04:05] <Madpilot> Makura, fastest way to get help is just to start asking questions here, and give as much detail as you can
[04:05] <jetscreamer> javiolo: i think you want anacron and cron-apt... i get mail from anacron, and read it in mutt... the client is not the sender btw
[04:06] <nickrud> javiolo: sorry, I brain farted there, I was thinking something else
[04:06] <FarSe3r> wastrel, ok.
[04:06] <Makura> Alright, why is it when I log in with my account, I get a brown background and a cursor, with no buttons or bars or anything?
[04:06] <javiolo> oh
[04:06] <bimberi> KoruptPryde: nope
[04:06] <Makura> Also, in the installation, I got a message telling me there was an error installing one or more packages.
[04:07] <jetscreamer> try again
[04:07] <Madpilot> Makura, is this off a ShipIt CD, or one you burned?
[04:07] <Makura> Madpilot:  One I burned.
[04:07] <allanh128> got a question.  Any suggestions on mounting a reassembled raid1 array?  i keep getting filesystem type, superblock  errors
[04:07] <Madpilot> Makura, did you run md5sum on the ISO when you downloaded it?
[04:08] <hou5ton> when I have both a wired and a wireless connection activated, Ubuntu doesn't use either one of them.  I have to deactivate one of them.  Is there a way for Ubuntu to sort this out?
[04:08] <javiolo> jetscreamer thanks
[04:08] <Makura> Madpilot: I honestly don't understand what you're asking me, so I'll tell you what I did.  I downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD, then booted off of the CD.
[04:09] <Madpilot> Makura, if you're burning in Windows, have a look here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> hou5ton: If there is, I haven't found it.  I have the same problem.
[04:09] <logan> well this is new
[04:09] <logan> hmm..
[04:09] <james__> hello ubuntu
[04:09] <allanh128> md5sum is the way to check your file downloaded properly'
[04:10] <cedriczg> hello there
[04:10] <hou5ton> tonyyarusso:  ya ... it's not the end of the world .... just a little annoying
[04:10] <ming> try to install ubuntu on an old redhat 7.3 desktop, installation procedures do not ask me erase all disk and keep asking manual config with software RAID and Logical Volume Manager, anyone knows how to get around it ?
[04:10] <cedriczg> does anyone there use captive for ntfs partitions?
[04:10] <Makura> Madpilot: I chose to do a complete install, no partitioning.  I had windows previously on my other machine, but I had some problems so I just reformatted.  This is not the machine I am trying to get Ubuntu on.
[04:10] <Kyral> cedriczg: not if we value the data on the partitions
[04:10] <Madpilot> Makura, but it is the machine you're doing the burning on, right?
[04:10] <cedriczg> But if you want to edit it...
[04:11] <cedriczg> What's the matter?
[04:11] <hou5ton> Kyral:  explain further please ... I'm also considering trying that
[04:11] <Kyral> cedriczg: Boot into Windows
[04:11] <Kyral> hou5ton: Its HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL
[04:11] <cedriczg> even now?
[04:11] <Kyral> hou5ton: Every instance I have heard has resulted in a borked up parition
[04:11] <Kyral> in short
[04:11] <Kyral> DO NOT TRY WRITING TO NTFS!
[04:11] <AngryElf> how do i get Graphics (multiverse) into Synaptic package manager?
[04:11] <hou5ton> Kyral:  thanks for the warning ... I don't need that kind of trouble
[04:11] <wastrel> even with captive/
[04:11] <wastrel> ?
[04:12] <Kyral> wastrel: YES!!
[04:12] <Madpilot> !tell AngryElf about multiverse
[04:12] <cedriczg> But captive doesn't work you say?
[04:12] <Kyral> Do it and bork your system
[04:12] <Kyral> cedriczg: in 1% of cases
[04:12] <Kyral> its like standing outside under a tree in a thunderstorm
[04:12] <Makura> Madpilot: Yes it is.  I've already made the CD though.
[04:12] <Kyral> you just don't do it
[04:12] <Madpilot> Kyral, is this the voice of experience talking? :P
[04:12] <nickrud> there's a program called ntfsfix, which "Attempt to fix an NTFS partition that has been damaged by the Linux NTFS driver
[04:12] <Makura> Madpilot: The problem is that I log in and I don't get anything other than a background and a cursor.
[04:12] <cedriczg> What could happen in that 1%?
[04:12] <ming> which package has 'xpdf' ?
[04:13] <Kyral> Madpilot: Its the voice of my Friends talking :P
[04:13] <Madpilot> Makura, that's why I'm asking about how you burned the disc - because a bad install disc could well be your problem
[04:13] <DarkED> Hey everybody
[04:13] <cedriczg> Kyral, waht could happen in that 1% of the cases?
[04:13] <needubuntuhelp> I have a problem with the Synaptic Package Manager
[04:13] <Kyral> cedriczg: it works
[04:13] <Makura> Madpilot: I used Alcohol 120%
[04:13] <Bean> Kyral, I've used a linux boot disk before that allowed me to edit the windows registry on an ntfs partition, how does that do it?
[04:14] <DarkED> needubuntuhelp: What's it doin?
[04:14] <Kyral> Dunno
[04:14] <Kyral> I just don't trust it
[04:14] <Bean> Kyral, and I've used it dozens of times to clear passwords and fix other things
[04:14] <cedriczg> Kyral, Oh I thaought you said that in 1% of the cases it didn't work
[04:14] <AngryElf> Madpilot, why is Graphics(multiverse) classified as "disabled"?
[04:14] <primoturbo> what's the command to quickly remount fstab with out restarting?
[04:14] <Madpilot> AngryElf, it shouldn't be, not if you've got your sources.list set up properly
[04:14] <needubuntuhelp> Gnome is not showing the programs it says it installed
[04:14] <Bean> primoturbo, mount -a I believe
[04:14] <AngryElf> that was the difference between it showing up and not showing up
[04:14] <AngryElf> SPM -> Settings -> show disabled sources
[04:14] <primoturbo> mount -a? I'll give it a try
[04:15] <needubuntuhelp> Huh?
[04:15] <DarkED> um try going to System-> Administration on the top panel
[04:15] <needubuntuhelp> ok
[04:15] <DarkED> Synaptic should be there
[04:15] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, not everything has a menu entry
[04:15] <javiolo> how do I deactivate the vnc server via terminal ?
[04:15] <cedriczg> Kyral, anyhow why is that it is set to noauto on the fstab file the partition mounted by captive?
[04:15] <IdleOne> line 51: gawk: command not found what do I do to fix that?
[04:15] <primoturbo> yeah that worked thanks
[04:15] <needubuntuhelp> Ok, so then where is the program'
[04:16] <Kyral> cedriczg: I don't use it :P
[04:16] <Madpilot> Makura, check the md5sum of the ISO you got, make sure it didn't get messed up while downloading
[04:16] <DarkED> Um...on my Ubuntu install, it's in System-> Admin
[04:16] <nickrud> IdleOne: install gawk
[04:16] <pc22> anyone?
[04:16] <Madpilot> Makura, then check this page, too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[04:16] <DarkED> The actual package is ... one sec
[04:16] <Makura> Madpilot: The ISO or the CD
[04:16] <pc22> im trying audacity
[04:16] <pc22> pc22 it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[04:16] <Bean> primoturbo, cool, makes me feel like I'm learning something :)
[04:16] <Madpilot> Makura, the ISO first
[04:16] <cedriczg> So noone there uses CAPTIVE?
[04:16] <DarkED> hey, check this
[04:16] <Makura> Madpilot: The ISO is on the other computer, what should I do?
[04:16] <DarkED> /var/lib/synaptic
[04:16] <DarkED> try the /var/liv/ dir
[04:16] <primoturbo> How do I access the gnome editor thing, it's similar to regedit on windows
[04:17] <cedriczg> I set to auto mount the ntfs with captive
[04:17] <DarkED> erm /var/lib/ sorry
[04:17] <nickrud> primoturbo: gconf-editor
[04:17] <edward0> primoturbo: gconf-editor
[04:17] <primoturbo> thnx
[04:17] <edward0> :D
[04:17] <IdleOne> nickrud>  thank you
[04:17] <cedriczg> It waorks but in the booting it hangs and I must use crtl+c to continue
[04:17] <DarkED> oh yeah, also
[04:17] <Makura> Madpilot: I don't think I can use this program.  When I burned the ISO to a CD, it made it into a CD instead of just putting the ISO on there.
[04:17] <DarkED> if ya ever need to find a package or a file, open a terminal and type 'locate <file>' without the asterisks
[04:18] <Madpilot> Makura, ISOs are burned a little bit differently - check that wiki.ubuntu.com URL I gave you, please
[04:18] <crouchingMonkey> i added all the repositories by following the wiki instructions but it doesnt seem to be working, can someone give me a hand ?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> crouchingMonkey: You'll probably want to pastebin your sources.list for people to check.
[04:18] <DarkED> um yeah monkey
[04:19] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <edgekaos> where can I get mod_dav_svn.so?
[04:19] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, try "sudo apt-get update" or the Reload button in Synaptic, to force a re-read of your new sources.list
[04:19] <crouchingMonkey> Madpilot, i did that alrady
[04:19] <nickrud> edgekaos: you can search for needed files on packages.ubuntu.com, that'll tell you which package they're in
[04:19] <pc22> how do i reinstall my sound devices
[04:20] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, then 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and put that in a pastebin for us
[04:20] <bosco> how do i update my search list in terminal     what is the command for it
[04:20] <DarkED> pc22: what kind of hardware?
[04:20] <primoturbo> Anyway to get my mount to show up on desktop and places? Like under breezy it worked but under dapper it doesn't I've made a directory /media/Windows
[04:20] <nickrud> bosco: sudo updatedb (for locate)
[04:20] <crouchingMonkey> what is the pastebin adderss
[04:20] <edgardo> Hola!
[04:20] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[04:20] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:20] <primoturbo> it's mounted find just don't show the desktop and places shortcuts
[04:20] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, ^^^
[04:20] <primoturbo> find > fine*
[04:20] <pc22> c97 drier
[04:20] <DarkED> so it's a realtek?
[04:21] <Madpilot> primoturbo, there's an option in gconf somewhere - in Nautilus's desktop settings
[04:21] <Makura> Madpilot: I can't seem to find the link you were talking about...
[04:21] <bosco> nickrud, it is not working
[04:21] <primoturbo> I'll take a look
[04:21] <nickrud> bosco: what do you mean exactly, not working
[04:21] <bosco> nickrud, there is no error message
[04:21] <edgardo> Good Bye!
[04:21] <crouchingMonkey> here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9882
[04:21] <Madpilot> Makura, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[04:21] <bosco> nickrud,  it went ot the next line and it stoped notihing came up
[04:21] <nickrud> bosco: updatedb should thrash your disks for a few minutes, then stop
[04:22] <bosco> nickrud,  what if i want to see it like verbose mode
[04:22] <primoturbo> Madpilot: Doesn't appear under apps>nautilus>desktop or anywere in nautilus any more ideas?
[04:22] <bosco> nickrud,  i want to see it manually doing it
[04:22] <crouchingMonkey> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9882
[04:22] <nickrud> bosco: updatedb -v
[04:22] <Makura> Madpilot: Should I just burn it this way, then start over and reinstall everything again?
[04:22] <Madpilot> primoturbo, not sure - have a look thru gconf, Dog knows it's got enough options tucked away
[04:23] <nickrud> bosco: I found that out just now, by typing man updatedb ;)
[04:23] <bosco> nickrud, THANK YOU
[04:23] <pc22> DarkED, it says ac97 sound controller
[04:23] <bosco> nickrud, srry i am tired
[04:23] <pc22> realtek i guess
[04:23] <Sir_quicken> looking for a mp3 player or codecs for ubuntu music player, How do I get them?
[04:23] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, the us. archives might be messing up again - try using the main ones (just remove the us. from each line)
[04:23] <nickrud> bosco: no problem, that was just a hint if you've never looked at man pages before
[04:23] <Bean> !proprietary_formats
[04:23] <ubotu> Bean: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <Bean> !restricted_formats
[04:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bean
[04:24] <nickrud> !restricted
[04:24] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, also this line - deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted - needs to have 'multiverse' added to it
[04:24] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:24] <Bean> !mp3
[04:24] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:24] <pc22> DarkED, im trying audacity
[04:24] <pc22>  it says there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[04:24] <Madpilot> Makura, if you've got a new install that's borked, reinstalling over it is probably the easiest thing
[04:25] <DarkED> pc22: Make sure you have audacit configured correctly
[04:25] <DarkED> pc22: XMMS ususally does the same to me the first time i run it
[04:25] <DarkED> pc22: also, dont run as root
[04:26] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, compare your sources.list to this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[04:26] <pc22> it can detect the devices
[04:26] <pc22> DarkED, it Cant detect the devices
[04:27] <DarkED> crap man
[04:27] <DarkED> i dunno
[04:28] <pc22> k
[04:28] <DarkED> search for it here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:28] <pc22> k\thanks
[04:28] <hou5ton> I have my system to mount the windows ntfs partition at boot (read only) ... but I have My Documents (which I would like to access) on a second hard drive that is also all NTFS, and I can't figure out how to get at them.
[04:28] <Makura> Madpilot: Any special instructions for reinstalling over it?
[04:29] <nickrud> !tell hou5ton about mountwindows
[04:29] <slide> Is there anyway to have eclipse and azureus installed at the same time?
[04:29] <Madpilot> Makura, not as far as I know - just drop the install CD in and restart the machine
[04:29] <sinaduel> is there a DVD Video burning program for linux?
[04:30] <Makura> Madpilot: What about when it gets to the part about partitioning/reformatting?
[04:30] <nickrud> Makura: you shoul probably tell the installer to reformat, just for fun
[04:30] <DarkED> slide: should be okay as long as you have the right package dependencies
[04:30] <slide> DarkED, whenever i try to install eclipse (I already have azureus installed), it tries to uninstall azureus
[04:30] <Makura> nickrud: Sarcasm?
[04:31] <nickrud> Makura: no, a crude attempt at humor
[04:31] <Madpilot> Makura, do you want to keep anything on the hardrive you're using?
[04:31] <Makura> I've already reformatted, so no.
[04:31] <nickrud> Makura: few things are more frustrating than a bad install iso
[04:31] <malt> Hello, I was wondering is it a pain in the ass to install cpanel with ubuntu?
[04:32] <Makura> nickrud: This attempt was a bad first impression.  I was to the point of pulling my hair out. =P
[04:32] <steven_> Ubuntu has a wiki?
[04:32] <steven_> O.o
[04:32] <nickrud> Makura: yeah, I learned to do that md5sum check early in my linux experience
[04:32] <crouchingMonkey> Madpilot, if the repositories are added correctly you should be able to "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" correct ?
[04:33] <steven_> Anyone know why Firefox will not download and install Java?
[04:33] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, I think so - that's the FreeJava package, isn't it?
[04:33] <Makura> nickrud: I didn't even burn it right the first time. >_<
[04:33] <Madpilot> !tell steven_ about java
[04:33] <DarkED> steven: you must install java jre manually
[04:33] <nickrud> Makura: lol, I saw
[04:33] <crouchingMonkey> Madpilot, its not free
[04:33] <crouchingMonkey> its from multiverse
[04:34] <crouchingMonkey> but i get E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[04:34] <Makura> nickrud: And the ISO *was* on my other computer, so now I have to wait for it to download again.
[04:34] <Madpilot> crouchingMonkey, I run Sun's Java myself - it actually works :|
[04:34] <Madpilot> !tell crouchingMonkey about java
[04:34] <nickrud> Makura: you could always copy the iso file off the first cd, then reburn
[04:34] <crouchingMonkey> Madpilot, that is java 1.5 right ?
[04:34] <nickrud> Makura: it was one file, right?
[04:35] <DarkED> nope
[04:35] <DarkED> thats jre 1.5
[04:35] <DarkED> erm 1.4*
[04:35] <DarkED> lol sorry
[04:35] <Makura> nickrud: No
[04:35] <Makura> nickrud: I burned it so that it was like a CD with the folders etc. in it.  I didn't burn the ISO to it like a data CD.
[04:35] <nickrud> Makura: oh. never mind, then. That's how I ruined my first couple boot iso a few years ago
[04:36] <dip> I have a question about networking... I bought an Access Point... does it have to be connected directly to the switch or can it be connected to an ethernet outlet in the wall... ?
[04:36] <Makura> nickrud: Well, I guess it's better that I found out now.
[04:36] <DarkED> go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[04:37] <Madpilot> Makura, a properly burned CD from an ISO won't just have the one giant ISO on it - like I said, ISOs are burned differently
[04:37] <Makura> nickrud: I got fed up with Windows yesterday (BSODs all the time, I couldn't even log in anymore), so I decided to dive into Linux.  I heard Ubuntu is one of the easiest to get started, but judging by the questions coming in the chat (that I can't even understand), I'm wondering if I can even handle it.
[04:37] <Makura> Madpilot: I didn't just burn the ISO, I made it into the CD.
[04:37] <nickrud> Makura: you're only seeing the problems, nearly everyone that installs Ubuntu doesn't need to come here 
[04:37] <steven_> dip: It can be connected to a ethernet port in the wall.
[04:38] <DarkED> Makura: Trust me, you can. I tried RedHat9 for about a month before I tried Ubuntu, now I don't even dual boot into Windows anymore...
[04:38] <wastrel> you have ethernet outlets in the wall?
[04:38] <Madpilot> Makura, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto has Windows burning info
[04:38] <Makura> Madpilot: I looked at that.
[04:38] <DarkED> Makura: You gotta have the mindset that 'learning is everything' and 'knowledge is power'
[04:38] <Makura> DarkED: But knowing is only half the battle. =[
[04:38] <DarkED> Makura: just keep that kinda thinking, and you will overcome any problems you may have...
[04:39] <Madpilot> Makura, the nice thing about installing Ubuntu is that you only ever have to do it once - upgrading after than can be done in place
[04:39] <Anpheus> Help! I am attempting to install the Rt2500 drivers (Version 1.1.0-b3) and installation fails when I attempt "sudo insmod rt2500.ko": I cannot inject the module into the kernal? Please assist!
[04:39] <Anpheus> kernel'
[04:39] <Anpheus> bah
[04:39] <wastrel> Anpheus:  try sudo modprobe rt2500
[04:39] <sinaduel> is there a DVD Video burning program for linux?, please respond to this.
[04:40] <Makura> Madpilot: Sorry for all the questions, but just to get this straight, what should the CD look like?  At first I thought you were telling me that it should just be the one ISO file on it.  Now it seems that you are telling me differently.  I'm confused.
[04:40] <Anpheus> wastrel: nothing happened
[04:40] <Madpilot> Makura, sorry - a CD burned from an ISO should have a whole bunch of directories/files on it
[04:40] <Makura> Madpilot: That's what mine is.
[04:40] <DarkED> Makura, try opening the ISO file
[04:40] <DarkED> As in, not just buring it, but OPENING it
[04:41] <Makura> DarkED: With?
[04:41] <Madpilot> Makura, OK - but you should check the md5sum of the ISO - that'll check if it's been downloaded properly
[04:41] <Makura> Madpilot: As soon as I get this one downloaded, I'll check it.  I'm afraid the first one was lost in the reformat of the other computer.
[04:42] <wastrel> Anpheus:  no news is good news with modprobe afaik..  try lsmod | grep rt2500
[04:42] <Madpilot> Makura, ah, OK - too bad, they're massive files to pull down...
[04:42] <Makura> Madpilot: At least I'm not on dialup anymore.
[04:42] <Makura> I think it's going considerably fast.  Should have it soon.
[04:43] <Madpilot> Makura, anyway, run md5sum on it, and burn it at a slow burning speed (I burn ISOs at 16x, many people think you should burn them even slower...)
[04:43] <crouchingMonkey> what is the command to fix a broken package ?
[04:43] <hou5ton> trying to mount the second harddrive with ntfs, .... I already have a /media/windows directory that goes to the ntfs and windows stuff on this same harddrive ... so,.... do I just make a different named one to access the second hard drive ???  ... like ... /media/windows2 ?
[04:44] <Makura> Madpilot: Maybe that was the problem, it was burning pretty fast.  No doubt faster burning speeds mean more chances for problems to occur.
[04:44] <allanh8228> Hello
[04:45] <allanh8228> I was disconnected so I don't know if you guys go my question so I'll put it up again.
[04:45] <hatake_kakashi> hou5ton: you need to find out what is the name of the device called for the second hard drive
[04:45] <hou5ton> hde
[04:45] <malt> Hello, I was wondering is it a pain in the ass to install cpanel with ubuntu?
[04:46] <hou5ton> hatake_kakashi:  is that what you meant?  hde?
[04:46] <hatake_kakashi> hou5ton: well you can add it to /etc/fstab something like this: "/dev/hde1 /media/windows2 ntfs ro,defaults 0 0"
[04:47] <hou5ton> hatake_kakashi:  ok ... so first .. i create that dir ... /media/windows2?
[04:47] <hou5ton> which means .. actually, I could name it anything I want
[04:47] <allanh8228> We installed ubuntu breezy on three identical hard drives.   boot is on a raid 1 array.  2 drives with 1 spare.  the rest of the free space is a raid 5 array.  We booted the latest version of knoppix to do some testing for recovery procedures if necessary.   We were able to use mdadm to activate the raid 1 and 5.  we can mount the raid 5 ok but not the raid 1.  we get a wrong file system error.  any ideas?
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> hou5ton: yes, for the destination mountpoint
[04:47] <Makura> Madpilot: Do you recommend I use the Windows burning features, Nero Express, or Alcohol 120%?  Or does it even matter?
[04:47] <eth0> hi, if i convert a .bin movie file to a .mpg, it won't affect the quality at all, will it?
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> eth0: technically no, but it can depend on your hardware specs and depends on which software you use imo
[04:48] <Madpilot> Makura, I've actually never use any of Window's burning tools, so I've no idea. There's a Windows ISO-burner-app linked to from that BurningISOHowto page, though
[04:48] <eth0> hatake_kakashi: ok, thanks
[04:48] <DarkED> Use Gnomebaker
[04:48] <DarkED> its similar to Nero Ultra
[04:48] <allanh8228> eth0:  A bin file is usually just a wrapper for mpg file is it is an svcd for example. so if you extract it, it won't affect the quality.
[04:49] <Makura> DarkED: I'll check it out.
[04:49] <eth0> allanh8228: alright, cheers
[04:49] <crouchingMonkey> how do i fix a broken pakcage ?
[04:50] <Madpilot> DarkED, he's burning in Windows, not Ubuntu
[04:50] <needubuntuhelp> Hi, I have a problem with synaptic Package Manager
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> I would have thought that bin files contain many files and of those big ones, they are named .dat files. Those .dat files are actually mpg/mpeg type files
[04:50] <DarkED> Makura: If you are buring in windows, download the Nero 7 trial
[04:51] <Makura> DarkED: I'm just going to use the one that it suggests in the Wiki.
[04:51] <allanh8228> Hatake Kakashi:  that is true.
[04:51] <DarkED> Makura: Okay, good luck!
[04:51] <dip> Im on a network without dhcp... my laptop connects to an Access Point... when I set the ip for the laptop should the gateway be the AP's ip or the actual network gateway?
[04:51] <Makura> DarkED: Thanks. =] 
[04:52] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: it depends on the package, and why it's broken
[04:53] <guns> !helpme setup e-mail
[04:53] <ubotu> guns: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:53] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: paste the error from an apt-get -f install
[04:53] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, what's the problem?
[04:53] <vb_coder> whats a good keylogger for windows?
[04:53] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: that is, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:53] <crouchingMonkey> nickrud, i was trying to intall mplayer and im having some dependency problems
[04:54] <hou5ton> hatake_kakashi:  that did it ... not a problem .. thanks
[04:54] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: that does not sound good; paste both the above, and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <needubuntuhelp> My problem is that programs I intall with the manager, dont show up under aplications in Gnome
[04:55] <needubuntuhelp> Is anyone going to help me?
[04:55] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, some stuff is command-line only, and some applications don't have menu entries - which applications have you installed?
[04:56] <needubuntuhelp> I isnstalled Opera, and 3d chess
[04:56] <nickrud> needubuntuhelp: a lot of programs don't have the right menu entries; you could install menu-xdg. That will add access to most things
[04:56] <Madpilot> !opera
[04:56] <ubotu> methinks opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:56] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, see the last URL above ^^^
[04:56] <nickrud> needubuntuhelp: they will show up under Applications->Debian
[04:56] <needubuntuhelp> thank you
[04:56] <Madpilot> nickrud, the Debian menu isn't enabled by default, and it's a mess when it is (IMO)
[04:57] <crouchingMonkey> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9883
[04:57] <nickrud> Madpilot: it is a mess, but it's easier than trying to remember all the correct invocations (IMO: )
[04:57] <hou5ton> do you have to reboot the wm for them to show up?
[04:57] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, for the 3dchess one, press Alt+F2 and type '3dchess'
[04:57] <needubuntuhelp> ok thanx
[04:58] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: get rid of the warty repository, that's your problem
[04:58] <hou5ton> for example, I just installed gftp, and it runs when I type that in a command line ... but it isn't listed in the applications
[04:58] <hou5ton> i havent' rebooted yet, though
[04:58] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: otherwise, those sources are very nice
[04:58] <Madpilot> hou5ton, Applications -> Internet -> gFTP - not there?
[04:58] <hou5ton> nope
[04:58] <needubuntuhelp> Alt f2 worked for opera too!!
[04:59] <hou5ton> should I reboot ... or is that just a windows thing?
[04:59] <Madpilot> hou5ton, in a terminal, type "killall gnome-panel" then check your menus
[04:59] <crouchingMonkey> nickrud, i did that and i refreshed
[04:59] <hou5ton> Madpilot:  that did it ... thanks
[04:59] <Madpilot> needubuntuhelp, yes, it will. Also, right-click on the Applications menu and choose "Edit Menu" then you can add a custom menu entry for anything you want - Opera, etc
[04:59] <Makura> Madpilot: Where do I get the original checksum to compare the one I have with?
[04:59] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: next, go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[05:00] <Madpilot> Makura, same place you got the ISO should have a file called MD5SUM
[05:01] <Makura> Madpilot: They are the same. =] 
[05:01] <Madpilot> Makura, that's a good sign
[05:01] <Madpilot> afk, back in a bit
[05:02] <vb_coder> can gnome run on cygwin?
[05:03] <nickrud> vb_coder: http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ (never tried it though)
[05:03] <chuckyp> vb_coder, sure but it won't run very well.
[05:04] <chuckyp> vb_coder, it will be slow that is.
[05:04] <nickrud> vb_coder: that page also has some links to some other projects
[05:05] <jetscreamer> why would you wnat to run gnome on cygwin though... jsut run a live cd with a persistent homedir
[05:05] <chuckyp> yeah that would be faster.
[05:06] <jetscreamer> and if you have ram, use the toram option
[05:06] <chuckyp> but still not as fast as hd.
[05:06] <nickrud> jetscreamer: how much ram would be good for that option?
[05:06] <ubuntunewbie> I was wondering how to make a shortcut to I program
[05:06] <jetscreamer> you usually need at least a gig for toram though
[05:06] <chuckyp> ubuntunewbie, make a shortcut where?
[05:06] <ubuntunewbie> on the desktop
[05:07] <chuckyp> ubuntulog, right click
[05:07] <ubuntunewbie> ok
[05:07] <chuckyp> create launcher
[05:07] <chuckyp> then fill in the fields
[05:07] <ubuntunewbie> ok I did that before and got stck
[05:08] <chuckyp> ubuntunewbie, well what program are you trying to create a shortcut to?
[05:08] <ubuntunewbie> I don't know where the file is (I open it using alt f2)
[05:08] <nickrud> ubuntunewbie: if you can find the app on the menu, right click the app, and andd to panel, then drag to desktop (dapper has direct todesktop)
[05:08] <ubuntunewbie> Opera
[05:08] <nickrud> ubuntunewbie: never mind 
[05:08] <chuckyp> ubuntulog, okay well open a terminal.  and type "which opera"
[05:09] <ubuntunewbie> cool
[05:09] <chuckyp> nickrud, how'd you type that character?
[05:09] <ubuntunewbie> Oh and that's the path, got it!
[05:09] <chuckyp> ubuntunewbie, yeap
[05:09] <ubuntunewbie> cool
[05:09] <ubuntunewbie> thanx
[05:09] <chuckyp> np
[05:10] <nickrud> chuckyp: I have the normal smilie auto replaced in xchat (advanced preferences)
[05:10] <chuckyp> gotcha
[05:10] <chuckyp> brb have to restart
[05:10] <Synergy> ok
[05:10] <Synergy> more newbie questions
[05:10] <Synergy> lol
[05:10] <nickrud> chuckyp: you should almost never have to restart
[05:11] <Synergy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36839&highlight=wu830g
[05:11] <nubs123456> !list
[05:11] <ubotu> [list]  you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:11] <Synergy> this is my problem
[05:11] <Synergy> how do i fix this
[05:11] <chuckyp> nickrud, I installed some packages via apt that need restart.  new gdm etc...
[05:11] <Synergy> or get that fix to get the wireless adapter to work
[05:11] <nickrud> chuckyp: ah, restart, not reboot ok
[05:11] <javiolo> what tools are for recovering files? I want to test if I can see files already deleted
[05:11] <nubs123456> isnt reboot and restart the same friggin thing?
[05:11] <Psykus> is there any simple way to install the "engage" launcher from enlightenment? it's not available in the standard repositories, but enlightenment is...i've tried installing from other repositories, but I keep getting dependency errors
[05:12] <nickrud> nubs123456: not in this case, he's just restarting X
[05:12] <Psykus> i already have enlightenment installed from the ubuntu universe repository I believe
[05:13] <kristopher> Not to sound frantic, but I accidently did apt-get dbus and it tried to "upgrade" like 40 packages
[05:13] <kristopher> now if I do apt-get upgrade it's trying to downgrade packages?
[05:13] <kristopher> how can I undo this package issue :(!
[05:15] <nickrud> javiolo: either recover or e2undel , but it's a losing proposition unless you unmount the affected partition almost immediately
[05:15] <Synergy> heh
[05:15] <nickrud> kristopher: could you paste the changes apt wants to make?
[05:15] <javiolo> nickrud its just for testing I heard about shred a tool to delete files securely
[05:15] <javiolo> and want to try to recover random files
[05:15] <kristopher> nickrud, IRC won't let me paste that much
[05:15] <nickrud> kristopher: on a pastebin of course 
[05:15] <chuckyp> !tell kristopher about paste
[05:15] <kristopher> oh, sorry, ok
[05:16] <zezu> any way to kill a process that doesn't want to be killed ?
[05:16] <hatake_kakashi> zezu: killall ?
[05:16] <zezu> mplayer is stuck .. a few instances of it
[05:16] <steven_> javiolo: kGPG (or PGP) comes with a Shredder Utility.
[05:16] <bimberi> zezu: sudo killall -9 <procid>
[05:16] <kristopher> Okay, I'm pasting
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if there's any compatibility issues with ubuntu and this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1696315 ?
[05:16] <bimberi> zezu: oops, sudo kill -9 <procid>
[05:16] <nickrud> zezu: killall <process> and if that doesn't work killall -9 <process> and if that doesn't work
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: you don't have to do pid, you can just do killall <name of process>
[05:17] <javiolo> steven_ didnt find shred available on apt-get
[05:17] <kristopher> here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9885
[05:17] <steven_> Not on Apt Get, but in the Add Applications, it's there.
[05:17] <steven_> the KPGP
[05:17] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: which always worries me, there might be others you want to keep (eg. nautilus)
[05:17] <steven_> You have to enable the repository though.
[05:18] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: well I doubt killall <name of pid> would recursively kill any other process in that tree
[05:18] <chuckyp> kristopher, what are you trying to do?
[05:18] <javiolo> steven ok but why pgp comes with shred ?
[05:18] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: no, you misunderstand, but nvm
[05:18] <kristopher> chuckyp: nothing, I want to keep all these packages AS THEY ARE
[05:19] <khafra> I can't figure out what to google to get instructions for mounting a file as a filesystem
[05:19] <nickrud> kristopher: that's not saying it wants to remove anything, just not update some things: 31 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 390 not upgraded
[05:19] <Synergy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94370&highlight=wu830g <---------is there a way to fix this or use this adapter
[05:19] <kristopher> chuckyp: I did $sudo apt-get install dbus and it freaked out
[05:19] <Synergy> ?
[05:19] <chuckyp> kristopher, did you change your sources.list or something?
[05:19] <zezu> kill -9 worked thanks
[05:19] <hatake_kakashi> khafra: mounting exactly what?
[05:19] <kristopher> *631 upgraded*
[05:19] <crarsflow> command
[05:19] <nickrud> kristopher: yeah, a lousy cut & paste
[05:19] <kristopher> nickrud: sorry
[05:20] <chuckyp> khafra, you trying to mount an iso?
[05:20] <khafra> hatake_kakashi: Like, say I wanna make a file, var; and mount it as /var
[05:20] <crarsflow> mount -t filesiste, /dev/xx /xxxx
[05:20] <kristopher> what's bad about my paste?
[05:20] <nickrud> kristopher: but chuckyp's question is a good one
[05:20] <khafra> chuckyp: Iike that, but from scratch
[05:20] <khafra> crarsflow: filesiste?
[05:20] <kristopher> chuckyp: no, I just did apt-get install dbus
[05:20] <chuckyp> khafra, wellyou could make an iso out of a file the mount it.
[05:20] <kristopher> (oh, i've added sources.list in the past)
[05:20] <fatslug> can anyone point me in the direction on some information as to what programs are available (and how similar they are), and all such related things i desire to know in order to decide if i can make the switch from a windows based pc to ubuntu?
[05:20] <crarsflow> sistem
[05:20] <khafra> chuckyp: But I wanna do my own choice of fs on it
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> khafra: huh, I know you can mount from directory a to directory b and there are files that are like loop files which uses iso9660 along with cloop (if need be) for mounting
[05:21] <bur[n] er> anyone know a gtk based music player that can work with gnome-vfs (samba) files?
[05:21] <nickrud> kristopher: I'd trust apt. I've had screens that look like that, and nothing's getting downgraded.
[05:21] <Synergy> lol
[05:21] <Synergy> this is so nuts
[05:21] <chuckyp> khafra, yeah then you mkisofs to whatever you want I would assume.  Why are you doing this exactly?
[05:22] <khafra> chuckyp: So I can have an encrypted filesystem of variable size, without sacrificing the performance I get from reiserfs on my main drives
[05:22] <kristopher> hmm
[05:22] <crimsun_> bur[n] er: banshee? quod libet? muine?
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> khafra: ahh you are trying to make an encrypted loop?
[05:22] <kristopher> i removed a line from my sources.list, and now no packages need updating
[05:22] <nickrud> kristopher: you could do apt-get --simulate
[05:23] <khafra> hatake_kakashi: Guess so
[05:23] <kristopher> can apt-get break existing installs ?
[05:23] <chuckyp> nickrud, he already knows what it will do.
[05:23] <chuckyp> kristopher, what version of ubuntu are you running.
[05:23] <kristopher> 5.10 (Breezy?)
[05:23] <nickrud> chuckyp: that would tell what version of packages he'd be getting
[05:24] <chuckyp> that is just goofy though I wonder why it is doing that?
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> khafra: well, what I said could be a starting point for you to look for in order to make encrypted 'containers' for storage. However if you want to turn your whole OS into encrypted 'containers' and all, that would not be easy imo.
[05:24] <chuckyp> khafra, did you do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install dbus?
[05:24] <khafra> chuckyp: Nope, never heard of dbus
[05:25] <kristopher> <-- im the clueless dbus guy
[05:25] <chuckyp> khafra, woops not ment foryou.
[05:25] <khafra> hatake_kakashi: I don't want to put the whole os in, just a few programs and their data directories
[05:25] <chuckyp> kristopher, ^^^^
[05:25] <nickrud> kristopher: not so clueless, you found your issue
[05:25] <khafra> chuckyp: Good, that woulda been really confusing
[05:25] <chuckyp> khafra, oh yea.
[05:25] <Synergy> anyone know about use networking
[05:25] <kristopher> chuckyp, I'm not sure which I did first
[05:25] <Synergy> err
[05:25] <Synergy> wireless usb networking rather
[05:25] <kristopher> but removing a line in my sources.list took the "new version of dbus" away
[05:26] <nickrud> kristopher: what was the line?
[05:26] <chuckyp> khafra, I don't know that you could make and encrypted iso then mount it that would be tricky there probably is a better way of doing it.  That way doesn't seem to make sense
[05:26] <kristopher> There are two lines I commented out:
[05:26] <kristopher> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:26] <khafra> So, I should make a separate partition?
[05:26] <kristopher> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:27] <khafra> http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9710.2/0037.html makes it sound like it'd have to be a special filesystem
[05:27] <chuckyp> khafra, I think the best way would be to make a partition and make it encrypted and mount that.
[05:27] <nickrud> kristopher: heh, no wonder. that's the development version, and apt would have allowed you to install the stuff (based on dependencies)
[05:27] <bimberi> kristopher: have you done a 'sudo apt-get update' since removing those lines?
[05:27] <chuckyp> kristopher, you are running dapper
[05:27] <nickrud> kristopher: now, how the libraries would have interacted is another question
[05:27] <chuckyp> ?
[05:28] <kristopher> i did apt-get update
[05:28] <AngryElf> is it possible to disable the gnome screensaver while a certain app is running?
[05:28] <bimberi> kristopher: kk
[05:28] <kristopher> so, did I mess it up lol?
[05:28] <chuckyp> kristopher, well did you install breezy or dapper?
[05:28] <chuckyp> kristopher, maybe not yet.
[05:28] <kristopher> is breezy the most recent stable available by ISO ?
[05:28] <khafra> chuckyp: Unless I'm crazy, I think this'll work: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/11227-make-space-linux-dual-boot-without-repartitioning.html
[05:28] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if there's any compatibility issues with ubuntu and this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1696315 ?
[05:28] <riskk> hi
[05:28] <kristopher> I think I installed breezy from a release CD
[05:28] <riskk> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my machine
[05:28] <khafra> hatake_kakashi: If http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/11227-make-space-linux-dual-boot-without-repartitioning.html works, thanks for putting me on the right track!
[05:29] <Psykus> is there any simple way to install the "engage" launcher from enlightenment? it's not available in the standard repositories, but enlightenment is...i've tried installing from other repositories, but I keep getting dependency errors..i already have enlightenment installed from the ubuntu universe repository I believe
[05:29] <riskk> i've gotten many many cds from ubuntu and i keep getting a cd read error, and i know its not the cd cause i got more and trid it, i even burned the iso and tried, same error
[05:29] <kristopher> will ubuntu get mad if I mix dapper w/ breezy packages?
[05:29] <riskk> so i figure it is my cd rom
[05:29] <riskk> does anyone have any advice for me to get it installed? i was thinking about net installer, but i had trouble finding some good information oninstalling that way
[05:30] <chuckyp> khafra, yeah loop file system
[05:30] <AngryElf> riskk, use a different cdrom :)
[05:30] <riskk> angryelf: i dont have that option available to me
[05:30] <riskk> and its a brand new one
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> khafra: I thought you wanted to have encrypted storage? that is just to make more space available for linux from windows partition
[05:31] <AngryElf> not even temporarily?
[05:31] <Synergy> riskk was it towards the end
[05:31] <nickrud> kristopher: it's not a good idea to mix packages between releases. You'll get all kinds of unpredictable results
[05:31] <riskk> i dont have one at my dispose
[05:31] <riskk> synergy: no
[05:31] <Synergy> near the screensaver
[05:31] <Synergy> ok
[05:31] <Synergy> just wondering
[05:31] <Makura> In the Ubuntu installation, when it comes to the partitioner, what's the difference between "Erase entire disc: IDE1 Master (hda)" and "Erase entire disc and use LVM: IDE1 Master (hda)" ?
[05:31] <bimberi> kristopher: it's not a good idea.  btw 'lsb_release -a' will tell you what release you have
[05:31] <riskk> ive been trying for a long time ago
[05:31] <riskk> time now*
[05:31] <riskk> and i'd really like to get ubuntu up and running
[05:31] <riskk> i dunno
[05:31] <riskk> i found a few tutorials on net install
[05:31] <riskk> but one required a 3.5 floppy disk
[05:32] <riskk> dont have a 3.5 disk drive
[05:32] <Synergy> anyone here that can help with the wireless usb adapter
[05:32] <riskk> and the other required a usb drive
[05:32] <kristopher> I'm running breezy
[05:32] <riskk> don't have that either
[05:32] <kristopher> so, did I actually commit the changes of the new libraries?
[05:32] <chuckyp> khafra, yeah that would work creating an .img then mkfs on it then moutning it.
[05:32] <malt578> does cpanel not support ubuntu, i didn't see it under platform supported versions?
[05:32] <kristopher> I never let apt-get upgrade start
[05:32] <chuckyp> kristopher, not when you did yum update.  yum update just hits the repos and gets all the updated packages versions and info etc...
[05:33] <nickrud> Makura: if you're only using one disk, don't use lvm (Logical Volume Manager)
[05:33] <chuckyp> kristopher, err apt-get update
[05:33] <chuckyp> wow lol
[05:33] <bimberi> kristopher: then you probably didn't - put the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[05:33] <Makura> nickrud: Thanks, I wasn't sure what LVM meant.
[05:33] <kristopher> okay, and I removed that line from my source
[05:33] <nickrud> kristopher: no, if you had, it would want to downgrade now
[05:33] <halflife28> anyone having microphone problems with breezy?
[05:33] <V4Vendetta> halflife28~ no, have you tried alsamixer
[05:33] <chuckyp> halflife28, what in cs?
[05:33] <kristopher> okay, so if I'm running apt-get upgrade and it's not doing that, it's back to the breezy?
[05:34] <riskk> anyone?
[05:34] <halflife28> alsamixer, thats in command line right?
[05:34] <V4Vendetta> yea
[05:34] <nickrud> kristopher: yeah, you were wise and did no damage
[05:35] <halflife28> well i cant mute my mic so i hear it constantly through my speakers
[05:35] <scott> greetings everyone!
[05:35] <crimsun_> halflife28: pastebin the output from amixer
[05:35] <Makura> Hello scott =] 
[05:35] <scott> I have a quick question:
[05:35] <kristopher> I think that's the first non-windows thing I've done in Linux
[05:35] <kristopher> thanks for your help guys, and helping a fellow junky kick his windows habits
[05:35] <scott> what does it mean to hibernate under Ubunut
[05:35] <scott> *Ubuntu?
[05:35] <crimsun_> ...or not
[05:36] <V4Vendetta> scott~ to turn devices off.
[05:36] <scott> On a more technical level, though.
[05:36] <kristopher> clear
[05:36] <kristopher> ooops, wrong terminal
[05:36] <V4Vendetta> scott~ it powers things down to save energy, it's more of a laptop feature
[05:37] <riskk> anyone have an idea whats wrong with my cdrom drive
[05:37] <riskk> its brand new, maybe i just need to change a setting
[05:37] <V4Vendetta> riskk~ whats the error?
[05:37] <riskk> There was a problem reading data from the CD-Rom. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-Rom. Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?
[05:37] <scott> So with a tower it is not better in any way to hibernate instead of shutdown?
[05:37] <riskk> its not the CD though
[05:37] <V4Vendetta> riskk~ is the cd clean, is it music or data?
[05:37] <riskk> its the linux ubuntu install cd
[05:37] <riskk> and yeah its clean
[05:37] <V4Vendetta> scott~ well if you want to keep the pc on, use hibernation
[05:38] <nickrud> scott: if it works, you just reatart faster
[05:38] <riskk> my cdrom works for everything
[05:38] <riskk> but when i try to install ubuntu
[05:38] <riskk> it starts, and then quickly throws this error
[05:38] <V4Vendetta> riskk~ have you checked the md5 of the cd? it could have burned wrong, i see this problem all the time
[05:38] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: am I mixing up suspend & hibernation?
[05:38] <riskk> vendetta: its from ubuntu
[05:38] <riskk> but how do i check this?
[05:39] <scott> so... in hibernation, basically the contents of ram are copied to the hard disk and a special boot program is placed in the MBR?
[05:39] <khafra> Hey, if a program I'm trying to make wants /usr/src/linux, and all I have is /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10, is it safe to make /usr/src/linux a link to the latter directory?
[05:39] <V4Vendetta> nickrud~ hmm i dunno
[05:39] <scott> I would use the word "suspend" but that is not an option using the gnome gui.
[05:39] <riskk> v4: how could I check the md5 of the cd?
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> riskk~ go to the ubuntu website, find the md5 and use an md5 checker on the cd.
[05:40] <Makura> riskk: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> if they match, then the cd is fine, if not then it isn't
[05:40] <ardinary> hi thanks for reading.  i have a file thats probably an iso but my computer calls it unknown, can i install a program with synaptic to burn it?
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> Makura~ thanks
[05:40] <Francisco> Ubugtu, hello
[05:40] <nickrud> Makura: you're sharing already then 
[05:40] <Makura> V4Vendetta: Is he in Windows?  I'm not sure.
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> Francisco~ it's a bot
[05:41] <V4Vendetta> Makura~ i think he is
[05:41] <halflife28> ok i'm back, now for the amixer
[05:41] <Makura> nickrud: =P
[05:41] <Francisco> V4Vendetta, how can I accelerator my video card??
[05:41] <khafra> If I'm using make to compile a program, and it wants the /usr/src/linux directory to exist; but all I have is /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10; should I just create the /usr/src/linux directory as a link to that one?
[05:42] <Makura> Francisco: What kind of video card do you have?
[05:42] <halflife28> now how do i paste this amixer thing?
[05:42] <scott> Hmm.. too many questions with too few knowledgeable people.
[05:42] <V4Vendetta> Francisco~ what kind?
[05:42] <ardinary> also how could i see the list of files my computer can identify to see if .iso is already there?
[05:42] <crimsun_> halflife28: get the output from the cli; paste it onto the pastebin Web site
[05:42] <crimsun_> halflife28: then tell me the URL
[05:42] <scott> oh well; farewell
[05:42] <halflife28> ok got ya
[05:43] <Francisco> V4Vendetta, I do not have Idea, What kind of it there are?
[05:44] <V4Vendetta> Francisco~ nvidia, ati, intel?
[05:44] <halflife28> http://pastebin.com/592148
[05:44] <Francisco> my pc is a Intel inside centrino. hp dv1325
[05:44] <Francisco> V4Vendetta, my pc is a Intel inside centrino. hp dv1325
[05:45] <V4Vendetta> ..
[05:46] <crimsun_> halflife28: are you using the digital output?
[05:46] <Makura> That's odd.
[05:46] <halflife28> nope
[05:46] <halflife28> i get sound in perfectly
[05:46] <crimsun_> halflife28: then, amixer sset 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[05:46] <jetscreamer> i'd go with hp dv1325
[05:46] <jetscreamer> lose the rest
[05:46] <crimsun_> halflife28: also, amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on
[05:47] <halflife28> k
[05:47] <crimsun_> halflife28: most importantly, use alsamixer to turn down 'AC97' capture
[05:47] <Synergy> hehe
[05:47] <crimsun_> it's at 80%. Set it to 0%.
[05:47] <josh__> yo yo yo!!!!
[05:47] <Synergy> anyone know about this wireless usb network adapter
[05:48] <Synergy> or how to make it work
[05:48] <halflife28> and how would i do that, bad with command line
[05:48] <crimsun_> halflife28: I gave you the commands
[05:48] <crimsun_> just copy and paste them
[05:48] <halflife28> ahh got it
[05:48] <Makura> Thanks for the help everyone, I'm off
[05:48] <josh__> i have a computer! it rocks hard!!!
[05:48] <amicrawler> where do i add src to my list for apps
[05:49] <crimsun_> halflife28: keep in mind you'll need to use alsamixer to decrease the capture volume of 'AC97'
[05:49] <amicrawler> tell amicrawler about src
[05:49] <halflife28> from this, how do i switch to capture in alsamixer
[05:49] <amicrawler> tell amicrawler about apt
[05:50] <riskk> ok V4
[05:50] <riskk> its scrolling a bunch of test
[05:50] <riskk> a bunch of lines, and it says OK after all of em
[05:50] <crimsun_> halflife28: F4
[05:51] <amicrawler> howto  do i add sources to my system  like  yast can in suse
[05:51] <Madpilot> !tell amicrawler about repos
[05:51] <halflife28> i still hear my microphone
[05:52] <crimsun_> halflife28: did you turn down 'AC97' completely (both playback and capture)?
[05:52] <malv> is epiphany any good?
[05:52] <malv> what are its limitations?
[05:52] <halflife28> will that mute the microphone completely because i use skype
[05:52] <josh__> if i get an LCD monitor, will it work out of the the box with ubuntu? or do i have to do some crazy stuff?
[05:52] <Eleaf> lol
[05:52] <crimsun_> halflife28: only the feedback loop
[05:52] <josh__> is it gonna be a hassle for me?
[05:52] <Eleaf> shouldn't be much different from a crt josh__ .  Might have to change your resolutions
[05:53] <riskk> hmm its still going
[05:53] <halflife28> ok did that and i still hear the feedback
[05:53] <riskk> ok
[05:53] <josh__> i would hope so. i had problems with simply mepis where it assumed i had an LCD, but i didn't
[05:53] <riskk> its done
[05:53] <riskk> it says Warning: 15 of 1778 listed files could not be read
[05:54] <riskk> Warning 1 of the 1763 computed check sums did NOT match
[05:54] <halflife28> i read that there was a bug somewhere with this but with no solution
[05:54] <riskk> what the heck does that mean?
[05:54] <crimsun_> halflife28: then unmute 'Mix' and leave it set to 0%
[05:54] <nickrud> malv: the bookmarks are a matter of taste, it doesn't use firefox extensions, but otherwise no limitations
[05:54] <crimsun_> halflife28: no, there's a solution. You may have to update sound drivers, but there's definitely a workaround.
[05:54] <malv> hmmm, seems a lot less memory intensive
[05:54] <malv> hard to measure how quick it is, but it seems smoother
[05:54] <halflife28> ok whats the mute/unmute button
[05:55] <crimsun_> halflife28: 'm'
[05:55] <Bicchi> how do i remove an application that i installed using: dpkg -i name.deb
[05:55] <nickrud> malv: I used to use it a lot on a slower machine, just for that reason
[05:55] <Francisco> V4Vendetta, sorry
[05:55] <josh__> SimplyMepis is a pile of crap, but i learned quite a bit about how to mess around with x config files. i guess everything's x.org now
[05:56] <halflife28> ok fixed that problem, thanks alot
[05:56] <Francisco> but, did you read my last massege."
[05:56] <Francisco> ?
[05:56] <nickrud> Bicchi: apt-get remove
[05:56] <riskk> anyone?
[05:56] <Francisco> V4Vendetta,
[05:57] <Bicchi> nickrud: can i do it thru symaptic. the proplem is that i do not know the name. actually i am about to install it.
[05:57] <josh__> has anyone used simplymepis, or is everyone faithful to ubuntu?
[05:57] <Francisco> V4Vendetta,
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <nickrud> Bicchi: one of the buttons on the lower left (in synaptic) will show you local & obsolete packages, you'll find it there
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <josh__> yup
[06:00] <josh__> i do
[06:00] <Francisco> somebody knows how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <guns> can somebody tell me why evolution refuses to prompt me for passwd for a second or third acct just the first
[06:00] <josh__> YES!!!
[06:00] <josh__> because evolution is stupid and u should get thunderbird
[06:00] <guns> thunderbird does the same thing
[06:00] <Francisco> can somebody tell m how can I accelerator my video card??
[06:00] <josh__> nah, i'm kidding, i use evolution too.
[06:00] <guns> i setup my gmail acct fine
[06:00] <josh__> why do u want it to prompt you?
[06:00] <Francisco> can somebody tell me how I can accelerator my video card..
[06:00] <tristanmike> !paste
[06:00] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:00] <guns> bc there is no other way to set the passwd
[06:00] <nickrud> Francisco: it's possible that someone here knows, but we need to know just what card you have
[06:00] <AngryElf> what does accelerator mean?
[06:01] <crimsun_> halflife28: which control(s) did you mute?
[06:01] <Francisco> nickrud, but how can know what kind it is?
[06:01] <josh__> hmmmmmm..................
[06:01] <guns> according to the forums it asks the first time you set up the acct
[06:01] <guns> which it did
[06:01] <halflife28> i muted the mic and turned up ac97 and it fixed my problem
[06:01] <nickrud> Francisco: use the pastebin mentioned above, to paste the output of lspci
[06:01] <crimsun_> halflife28: ok
[06:01] <halflife28> the gui mixer tool aint that great is it
[06:02] <guns> then i tried to add another acct (IMAP) and it tries to connect but wont ask for the passwd, so it is stuck
[06:02] <josh__> would it be too complicated to just have everythign forwarded to your gmail acct?
[06:02] <glick> howdy
[06:02] <glick> howdy dowdy
[06:02] <nickrud> Francisco: by output of lspci, type lspci in a terminal
[06:02] <guns> that is possible but... the program should work the way i want it.  i came from XP and could put all my mail on outlook
[06:02] <Francisco> nickrud, I am pastting it!
[06:02] <guns> no problems
[06:02] <glick> scuse me is it juset me or is kubuntu extreamly unstable?
[06:03] <glick> it crashes All the time
[06:03] <josh__> hmm...
[06:03] <guns> besides why would i want to go and setup forwarding on each account
[06:03] <glick> goes down more often then a 2 dollar crack hoe
[06:03] <guns> then if i access from somewhere else those emails are not there
[06:03] <guns> for example on the LAN at school
[06:03] <glick> where-as ubuntu gnome, and most gnome applications, rock solit
[06:03] <josh__> yeah, it would be a big hassle
[06:04] <guns> theres an option File>forget passwords
[06:04] <guns> which i used
[06:04] <guns> but it only asked me to reset gmail
[06:04] <guns> then it got to my school acct on the send/rcv and got stuck as usual
[06:04] <Francisco> nickrud, have you seen it?
[06:04] <guns> evolution my ass!!  =p
[06:04] <glick> i cant believe linuz endorsed kde and dissed gnome like he did
[06:04] <azrak> hi there, I'm new to ubuntu. Just installed 5.10 yesterday on an HP m/c with two ethernet cards. Both configured thru DHCP. Eventhough I can't access the Internet. Any help?
[06:04] <glick> maybe he was smoking crack
[06:04] <nickrud> Francisco: you need to give me the URL link, so I know where to look 
[06:05] <Francisco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9889
[06:05] <josh__> i remember i had some weird problem with it gettig stuck with my gmail acct.
[06:05] <Francisco> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9889
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> glick, welll he does use a mac
[06:06] <josh__> ummm.....do you have all the right security features set up?
[06:06] <glick> whateva nomasteryoda Linus isnt like my idol or anything
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:06] <nickrud> Francisco: that is a very useless lspci (not your fault) try lspci -v
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> that' would be my guess as to a reason .. its so slick... cool and bulky... i use it all the time.. except on my ubuntu boxen
[06:07] <riskk> where did vendetta go
[06:07] <glick> id use kde if it was more stable
[06:07] <chuckyp> So agrivated can't dl ut2004 demo?  everywhere ig et it the dl is messed up for linux.
[06:07] <chuckyp> 77mb archive wants to extract to 1.8gigs not going to happen then it gets unexpected end of file.
[06:08] <Francisco> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9890
[06:08] <guns> btw josh__, do you happen to know the hotmail server addy for clients
[06:08] <guns> or yahoos
[06:08] <azrak> hi there, I'm new to ubuntu. Just installed 5.10 yesterday on an HP m/c with two ethernet cards. Both configured thru DHCP. Eventhough I can't access the Internet. Any help?
[06:08] <Madpilot> nickrud, crack refs?
[06:09] <nickrud> Francisco: I'm sorry, but I can't figure out what type of chip that is,
[06:09] <chuckyp> azrak, why do you ahve both hooked up? and what type of cards.
[06:09] <calyth> Any suggestion for a decent app (preferaby GUI) for making images out of CDs, perhaps audio CDs
[06:10] <Francisco> nickrud, do you know how can I make my terminal without backgroud.."
[06:10] <Francisco> V4Vendetta, it is intelll.."
[06:10] <AngryElf> hey all, i'd like to make a script of some sort that does the following:    start program, while program is running run this_command once every minute.........can somebody help me get started on this?
[06:10] <nickrud> Madpilot: don't mind me, I deal with crack addicts regularly.
[06:10] <azrak> one for a small office network, the other to internet thru a router. My XP platform sees both networks.
[06:11] <Madpilot> nickrud, nevermind, then
[06:12] <glick> you find random sex on craigslist?
[06:12] <glick> oops wrong room
[06:13] <Madpilot> yeah, I'd say so... :P
[06:13] <bimberi> very
[06:13] <nickrud> Francisco: what do you mean exactly, without background?
[06:13] <Madpilot> glick, I suppose I could kick you for that, but I needed a laugh ;)
[06:14] <Francisco> nickrud, transparent."
[06:14] <nickrud> Francisco: right click your mouse on the destop, and change background ...
[06:14] <glick> heh sorry
[06:14] <Francisco> nickrud, my terminall.
[06:14] <Madpilot> Francisco, Edit -> Current Profile
[06:14] <nickrud> Francisco: ah. Edit current profile, and choose the effects terminal
[06:15] <nickrud>  /terminal/tab
[06:16] <Francisco> nickrud, Madpilot thaxs..
[06:17] <azrak> quit
[06:19] <Francisco> Madpilot, how can I accelarator my video card."?
[06:19] <theeo123> Can anyone suggesst a help chanel for a new Unbuntu user ?
[06:19] <Madpilot> theeo123, this one
[06:20] <Madpilot> Francisco, which make of card?
[06:20] <Francisco> this another one..
[06:20] <Francisco> Madpilot, intel..
[06:20] <nickrud> Madpilot: his lspci is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9890
[06:20] <theeo123> oh  okay :0 thanks  I'm fiarly new to Linux, but far from being computer illiterate (typing skills aside)  I jsut switched over form Windows a few days ago
[06:20] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add something to gnomes right click menu. i.e. when you right click on desktop?  I want to add a launcher there.
[06:21] <Madpilot> thebrose, step one is: forget most of what you know from Windows. :P
[06:21] <tristanmike> theeo123, congrats and welcome :)
[06:21] <Madpilot> theeo123, rather ^^^
[06:21] <chuckyp> theeo123, step 2 read the wiki, and hang out here.
[06:21] <theeo123> I have a 300 gig drive, that i use for data storag,e I've backed up the contents, and am ready to format,  The drive is going to have a good combination of larger files (700+mb) and lots & lots of smaller fiels (jpgs)  wil lget a LOT of heavy I/O   what file system would peopel suggest formating it to ?
[06:21] <Madpilot> Francisco, I know nothing about Intel graphics - sorry. Have you tried ubuntuforums.org?
[06:22] <Francisco> Madpilot, yeah..
[06:22] <Francisco> but nothing
[06:22] <Drac[Server] > Instead of booting into the normal system, this fresh Ubuntu installation boots into busybox. What can I do to get to the normal session?
[06:22] <Madpilot> theeo123, ext3 is Ubuntu's default
[06:22] <theeo123> Been reading the wiki , startign to learn my way around a comand prompt,  but this is an opinion kind of questio nthat hte wiki's & guides dont really cover
[06:22] <chuckyp> !ask
[06:22] <crimsun_> Gals/Guys, if you're using Ubuntu on a ThinkPad, please let me know; I need to check the Jack Sense settings on your machines.
[06:23] <sinaduel> hello, everytime I come here needing help, no one even responds, I need help, I have high speed internet, and It shows when I download, but, my internet browsing speed with all browsers is slow, please help
[06:23] <Drac[Server] > theeo123, ReiserFS is excellent for dealing with lots of small files.
[06:23] <PlutoPrime> theeo123: ext3 will work just fine
[06:23] <theeo123> So you think that owuld work better/best compared to say reiser or xfs ?
[06:23] <Organs> Theo, your choice is pretty much ext2 or ext3.  Go with ext3 because it's much more stable.
[06:23] <theeo123> sorry responded to slow *L*
[06:23] <PlutoPrime> theeo123: you can also try reiser.. the biggest difference you might notice is that reiser is slightly faster in deleting files
[06:23] <chuckyp> sinaduel, are you behind a proxy? and are you sure you have the right dns servers.  Also what browsers have you tried?
[06:24] <nickrud> sinaduel: I feel that ubuntu's firefox is slow, have you tried epiphany?
[06:24] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, that all depends on the system. In some cases, reiser is all-around faster.
[06:24] <theeo123> Hmm. okay,  next question   Can a drive be converted from ext3 to reiser 9or vice versa) without data loss using Gparted or similar ?
[06:24] <Drac[Server] > Can somebody please get me out of busybox? I'm stuck!
[06:25] <PlutoPrime> in my humble opinion.. unless you are running a corporate server it doesn't really matter which file system you use.. personally I would go with ext3 for things such as beagle
[06:25] <chuckyp> sinaduel, http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug/2005-July/046754.html
[06:25] <Drac[Server] > The boot sequence fails to load tty for some reason. Because of this, it throws me into busybox. How can I get out?!
[06:25] <nickrud> Drac[Server] : if you have a standard ubuntu login screen, look under sessions, you should find gnome there
[06:25] <crimsun_> Drac[Server] : 'logout', or ctrl+d
[06:25] <Drac[Server] > crimsun_, thank you. :)
[06:25] <Organs> If your boot sequence isn't loading things, that's......usually not good.
[06:26] <theeo123> PlutoPrime, Not runign a server but in honest truth, I have almost as much HD activity in a given day as some small servers,  Thanks Much for the advice guys I appreciate it a lot :)
[06:26] <Organs> crimsun_'s method will work on a session-to-session basis, but a permanent fix.....?
[06:26] <sinaduel> I have tried Konquerer and firefox, I will try epiphany, no I am not behind a proxy, at least I do not think so
[06:26] <Drac[Server] > crimsun_: "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"
[06:26] <theeo123> The suck part was backing up 280 Gig of data to DVd's :9
[06:27] <nickrud> theeo123: how long did that take, if you don't mind
[06:27] <PlutoPrime> theeo123: I know what you mean... but what I really meant is that you would at least get the kind of performance you get from NTFS on windows for your use
[06:27] <theeo123> Pluto  ahh okay, I catch ya now,
[06:27] <Drac[Server] > I can't get a normal shell! What's wrong with tty? D:
[06:28] <sampson> I've just put ubuntu on my laptop and am having trouble with audio, just not getting any sound :( anyone have an idea?
[06:28] <guns> room, i'm running w/o sound card currently, when my audigy comes in, do i need anything special for the EAX or even for drivers
[06:28] <theeo123> Nickrud,  Depends ,  raw processing time ,not sure, been doign it bit by bit over the last 2 - 3 days,  I havn't slept since Tuesday, *L*
[06:28] <Drac[Server] > I've got a serious problem, here...
[06:28] <PlutoPrime> wow
[06:29] <PlutoPrime> that's long with no sleep... i can't take that
[06:29] <theeo123> nickrud: a lot of the files were already compressed (jpg xvid etc) so even after compressing everythign it was 50+ 4.4Gig disc's
[06:29] <PlutoPrime> Drac: go ahead
[06:29] <crimsun_> sampson: pastebin output from the following: for i in $(cat /proc/asound/modules |awk '{ print $1 }'); do amixer -c$i; done
[06:29] <sampson> ty crimsun, will try
[06:30] <theeo123> okay, thanks again guys, off to go format, then sleep
[06:30] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, when I boot, I can't get into a normal shell. I'm thrown into busybox. The shell launch attempt returns: "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"
[06:30] <sampson> crimsun, for i in?
[06:30] <sampson> crimsun, or that endire string
[06:30] <PlutoPrime> Drac[Server] : is this a clean install?? how did this happen?
[06:31] <crimsun_> sampson: copy and paste that entire thing verbatim
[06:31] <sampson> crimsun, could you link me to pastebin
[06:31] <crimsun_> !tell sampson about pastebin
[06:31] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, to my knowledge, it's clean. I don't know what happened, but the install took four hours, and I don't want to do it again. It's a very old machine.
[06:32] <PlutoPrime> did you get any errors during the install process? seems to me some things didn't get configured correctly
[06:32] <Drac[Server] > No errors. None at all.
[06:32] <Drac[Server] > The install went slowly but smoothly.
[06:32] <sampson> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9891
[06:32] <PlutoPrime> have you tried recovery mode?
[06:32] <PlutoPrime> can you get to a root shell that way?
[06:33] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, well, no. Let me try that.
[06:35] <sinaduel> epiphany is also slow
[06:35] <crimsun_> sampson: what if you increase the volume on 'Front'?
[06:36] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, Ah! I figured out my problem! It's trying to use hdb, but I've since moved the harddrive to hd0 (hda). There is no /dev/hdb to boot from, so it drops to a simple shell. The question now is, how do I edit grub's menu.list without the help of a separate computer? Perhaps a Live CD...
[06:36] <Amaranth> Drac[Server] : grub lets you edit the boot line
[06:36] <Amaranth> Drac[Server] : one time only though, so after you get booted up you have to edit the conf file
[06:36] <Anpheus> New question! How do I mount a Microsoft Active Directory shared location (hypothetically, smb://zeus/muzak/)?
[06:37] <Drac[Server] > Amaranth, including which harddrive partition to boot from? How do I do this?
[06:37] <dark_light> can i make various partitions on my pendrive?
[06:37] <Amaranth> Drac[Server] : in the list of boot options i believe you hit e
[06:37] <Drac[Server] > Amaranth, ah! Thanks! :D
[06:38] <PlutoPrime> Drac[Server] : at the grub screen hit "e" to go to edit mode
[06:38] <PlutoPrime> then modify the drive to boot from
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> dark_light: I know it's possible, b/c I did it in Windows once.  Not sure if there's any quirks to doing it in Linux.
[06:38] <PlutoPrime> and finally hit "b" to continue botting
[06:38] <sampson> crimsun, the audio controls i'm looking at don't have a 'front', so i maxed em all out
[06:39] <dark_light> tonyyarusso, maybe.. fdisk?:)
[06:39] <crimsun_> sampson: no, don't max them all out. Use the 'alsamixer' tool from the command line (Applications> Accessories> Terminal)
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> dark_light: I guess.
[06:39] <Anpheus> People who have experience with Samba and Active Directory, how can I mount an Active Directory shared location?
[06:39] <PlutoPrime> Drac[Server] : once you boot to a valid shell, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the appropriate updates to the boot partition at the bottom of the file
[06:39] <bowie> hello, when i put mplayer on terminal i get "segment violation
[06:39] <Drac[Server] > PlutoPrime, right. Thanks again. I already got in and will fix it as soon as possible. :)
[06:40] <bowie> so i can't execute him
[06:40] <farous> bowie who do you want to execute just take it easy :)
[06:40] <bowie> what's wrong?
[06:40] <sampson> ok, tried but no success
[06:40] <bowie> hehehe
[06:41] <ubuntu29> hi
[06:41] <bowie> linus!!! hehehe
[06:41] <nickrud> bowie: where did you get mplayer from?
[06:41] <farous> hehe
[06:41] <bowie> synaptic
[06:41] <ubuntu29> when is the enxt update?
[06:42] <Madpilot> ubuntu29, next version of Ubuntu comes out in mid-April - about six weeks for now
[06:42] <Anpheus> HELLO!
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here know what Apache2's suexec docroot dir is set to?
[06:42] <Anpheus> Do you know how to use Samba? Do you have experience with Microsoft Active Directory services or LDAP? Do you know how to mount a network drive using Samba? If you answered YES to these questions, please, please respond!
[06:42] <nickrud> bowie: take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto, make sure you installed the correct version
[06:43] <bowie> ok i will
[06:43] <schmity> O RLY?
[06:43] <Madpilot> !samba
[06:43] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:43] <Anpheus> Thank you, ubotu.
[06:44] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[06:44] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:44] <Madpilot> :P
[06:45] <cheatersrealm> how can I use apt to remove packages that have been installed but have nothing that depends on them (omitting things I have apt-get installed myself)
[06:45] <sampson> crimsun, still nothing
[06:46] <crimsun_> sampson: which sound card do you have?
[06:46] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: the package debfoster
[06:47] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: so I need to insall debfoster?
[06:47] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: can't do that
[06:47] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: yes, that tool will step you through removing unused packages
[06:47] <sampson> crimsun, I've been trying to figure out... laptop is Acer AS1641WLMI and I can't find the specs online or in my manual
[06:48] <crimsun_> ah, excellent
[06:48] <sampson> atleast not the audio specs
[06:48] <crimsun_> the unfortunate thing is that you need the very latest ALSA cvs sources
[06:48] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: why not?
[06:48] <crimsun_> that means you'll need to compile a newer set of sound drivers
[06:48] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: no free space :(
[06:48] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all, I am looking after a panel theme that seems like Windows panel, do any of you know where can I search for this type of thing? I couldn't find it at gome-look.org :|
[06:49] <cafuego> windows panel?
[06:49] <cafuego> Like the start menu and task bar, you mean?
[06:49] <CrAzYoNi> yes, with the start button..
[06:49] <cafuego> art.gnome.org ?
[06:49] <CrAzYoNi> Yes, although I'll replace the start button with the Ubuntu button :-)
[06:49] <mikere> if I want that windows look I use icewm
[06:49] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: sudo apt-cache clean, that will clear out /var/cache/apt/archive (probably freeing 100's of megabytes)
[06:49] <Anpheus> Madpilot:
[06:50] <CrAzYoNi> I'll look into that site ASAP, thanks
[06:50] <Anpheus> How do I find the IP address of a server via Samba?
[06:50] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: haha I've been doing that
[06:50] <Anpheus> I mean, without going over to another machine and pinging it.
[06:50] <cafuego> Anpheus: wins would do that, normally.
[06:50] <crimsun_> sampson: how comfortable are you compiling source code?
[06:50] <Madpilot> Anpheus, I don't actually use samba, I just knew the bot had an entry on it
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried Breezy liveCD and is able to tell me that the locales are set to UTF8? or?
[06:50] <engla> How do I get the clearlooks theme in another color? I want the same look, just a different hue... I know this theme can do it...
[06:50] <Anpheus> Ah, cafuego, what would I do to resolve the hostname zeus?
[06:51] <Anpheus> I'm mounting a directory.
[06:51] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: it's only 32K , you should be able to clear that much somewhere 
[06:51] <Anpheus> This guide calls for a specific IP address, no less.
[06:51] <sampson> crimsun, with java and c only... otherwise it'd be a shot in the dark
[06:51] <maruchan> i have a friend whos trying to install ubuntu for the first time on his laptop
[06:51] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: ok let me see.. I aws in the middle of an apt-get dist-upgrade and it sort of botched
[06:51] <crimsun_> sampson: it's C, so it shouldn't be foreign then
[06:51] <cafuego> Anpheus: *that* I don't know.
[06:51] <joelbryan> guys, check out this patch, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/34088
[06:51] <maruchan> but he cant cause it goes black, after stuff starts to uncompress
[06:51] <crimsun_> sampson: in a Terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:52] <maruchan> how do you change the paramtors, i saw ont eh forums some got it to work after changing parameters
[06:52] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: heh. Been, there, I backed up part of my home (now on it's own partition)
[06:52] <farous> just a quick question sudo mv <dir> will it preserver ownership or will i have to reset it
[06:52] <ubuntu29> ok thakns for answer
[06:52] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: ok give me a minute..
[06:52] <mikere> maruchan: there should be a help screen available when you first boot the grub menu by pressing F1 that will tell you the parameter to type in
[06:52] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: if I really need to I can use my usb key :)
[06:53] <maruchan> how do you know waht parameter to type in
[06:53] <mikere> maruchan: but I can't recall what to type - something about svga or vga or something
[06:53] <maruchan> okay
[06:53] <nickrud> cheatersrealm: I was a bit undersized there, it installs into about 164K
[06:54] <farous> i guess i will have to figure that out myself :)
[06:54] <sampson> crimsun, it's asking for a password
[06:54] <maruchan> thanks all see if ican help out with that info
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> where is double spaced option in oowriter ?
[06:54] <bowie> nickrud
[06:55] <tristanmike> joelbryan, is that for breezy? or dapper?
[06:55] <nickrud> bowie
[06:55] <bowie> nickrud no there is no help
[06:55] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried Breezy liveCD and is able to tell me that the locales are set to UTF8? or?
[06:55] <crimsun_> sampson: that's your user's password
[06:55] <crimsun_> !tell sampson about sudo
[06:55] <bowie> xawtv do the same thing
[06:55] <nickrud> bowie: if you're getting seg faults, it's most likely you either chose the wrong package, or got it from a source you added.
[06:56] <ubuntu> !tell ubuntu about sudo
[06:56] <nickrud> bowie: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:57] <bowie> nickrud  ok wait
[06:57] <MrBlunts> i  personally dont care for sudo, i enable root
[06:57] <cheatersrealm> nickrud: thanks man
[06:57] <nickrud> MrBlunts: I've found that sudo -i is a good recommendation for most people
[06:57] <ubuntu29> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54\
[06:57] <ubuntu29> funny linux flash toon
[06:58] <sampson> crimsun, clever.. what next?
[06:59] <crimsun_> sampson: sudo apt-get install cvs automake1.9 autoconf
[06:59] <ubuntu29> try my link its not spam
[06:59] <bowie> nickrud
[06:59] <bowie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9892
[07:01] <maple> I'm building a amd64 box soon. am i better off still running the 32bit version of ubuntu on it for more software precompiled for it or is it about the same now?
[07:01] <ubuntu29> can i use LIDS
[07:01] <nickrud> bowie, I'm gonna make a few changes to that, and post it back. Especially, note lines 19 & 20. The extra repos you have are probably the conflicts
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> What would be the best way to password protect a directory in my home with a separate pass than my normal user one?  I have some logs and docs that aren't really for public viewing, but let other people use the computer sometimes.  Should I just create another user?
[07:02] <ubuntu29> any idea?
[07:02] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: either use a cryptoloop mount on that dir or encrypt the docs in question using gnupg.
[07:03] <sampson> crimsun, asked me if I wanted to continue, now it's installing a bunch of things from security.ubuntu.com
[07:03] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, could you just change it's permissions?
[07:03] <ubuntu29> its calle LIDS doe sthat work with my ubuntu or not?
[07:03] <sampson> crimsun, 2 min left
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Could you elaborate or point me to docs for those?
[07:03] <nickrud> bowie: ok, I didn't change lines 19 & 20, you had that the relevant just below
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike: Well, all I could do at this point is change them to root, which isn't really ideal either.
[07:03] <ubuntu29> is ubuntu secure?
[07:03] <tristanmike> ic
[07:03] <ubuntu29> prvt me with the answer
[07:04] <Dethread> ubuntu29, define "secure"
[07:04] <crimsun_> sampson: ok. It may be easier if you open a query with me.
[07:04] <farous> tonyyarusso: why not just built a guest account for whoever gonna use your pc
[07:04] <farous> sorry add
[07:04] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9893 <-- look that over
[07:04] <ubuntu29> can i use lids to secure my ubuntu ?
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> farous: I'm considering that.  Or maybe creating another user to own those files, and still let people use this one to save the hassle of logging out/in.
[07:05] <hardbop200> Hello all - how do I change the way the debian menu calls an application?
[07:05] <nickrud> bowie: outside repos can be very nice, but picking ones that are compatible with one another can be excruciating
[07:05] <Dethread> ubuntu29, sure
[07:05] <ubuntu29> well i gusse no one knows
[07:05] <ubuntu29> oh wait
[07:05] <farous> tonyyarusso: having a seperate account for guest is good idea. for you will be able to restrict them and restrict ava resources to them. You do not want them messing your config
[07:06] <ubuntu29> tell me what you know about  dethread
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> farous: Good point.  Any guides for how to restrict things to exactly what you want available?
[07:07] <farous> tonyyarusso: i just use gnome add user. And then work from there
[07:07] <farous> its soo easy
[07:07] <ubuntunewbie> Is there any way to get wlan cards to work?
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> farous: 'k.
[07:08] <ubuntunewbie> anybody know?
[07:08] <peterson_> hello
[07:08] <mikere> ubuntunewbie: i assume you mean wireless?  Mine worked fine pretty much out of hte box with breezy.
[07:08] <peterson_> is there a way windows based games will run on ubuntu linux?
[07:08] <bowie> nickrud so what you change?
[07:08] <ubuntu> wine
[07:08] <ubuntu> celdga
[07:08] <ubuntu> win4lin
[07:08] <mikere> cedega?
[07:08] <ubuntu> take your pick
[07:08] <ubuntu> ya
[07:09] <Qubit_> hey all, i wanna give ubuntu a go and just dloaded it yesterday looking for help and/or resources
[07:09] <sampson> crimsun, dialog window == query?
[07:09] <ubuntu> cost 5$ a month but 98% of all win games work on it
[07:09] <nickrud> bowie: basically, put # in front of all of your unofficial repos, except for the sourceforge wine.
[07:09] <crimsun_> sampson: yes, or /msg
[07:09] <peterson_> ubuntu: what is it a plugin?
[07:10] <ubuntu> no, a prog to run win binarys
[07:10] <ubuntu> i thank they a a 15 day trial now. do a google and download it
[07:10] <Blippe> how do i get parport0 (not in /dev and used by my scanner) accessable by other than root/sudo?
[07:11] <ubuntu> a a = have: wow...need more coffee
[07:11] <bowie> nickrud but, with that repos i put my ubuntu running well
[07:12] <nickrud> bowie, yes, but there's some library conflicts. Like I said, finding compatible non-official stuff can be hard.
[07:12] <oliberu> hello there !
[07:12] <bowie> but, it make conflicts between diferent programs?
[07:13] <nickrud> bowie: exactly. Seveas's & the plf's repos are the only ones that I'd currently recommend
[07:14] <Qubit_> how do i expand a program?
[07:14] <nickrud> bowie: well, it looks like you're on my server 
[07:14] <bowie> nickrud whichone?
[07:15] <cafuego> well, that was special
[07:15] <Anpheus> Just once, Linux, I want you to work without me stressing out.
[07:15] <antibus> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:15] <iGotNoTime> There is one account that I want to have the exact same rights as root
[07:15] <hardbop200> :q
[07:15] <iGotNoTime> how do I set that in ssh?
[07:15] <Anpheus> !samba
[07:15] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:15] <Anpheus> You! Ubotu! Heed my demands!
[07:15] <iGotNoTime> with System/Users & Groups I can do it, but I need to know how in terminal
[07:15] <Anpheus> Madpilot: What command did you issue to ubotu that gave me the wiki article?
[07:15] <Anpheus> There it is.
[07:15] <nickrud> bowie: well, more like 'not calvino'
[07:16] <thenetduck> does anyone know what packages i need to import to use a PriorityQueue in Java?
[07:16] <Qubit_> ok, thanx for the GREAT help
[07:16] <oliberu> I have some problems with my ISA sound card, anyone could help me ?
[07:16] <cafuego> oliberu: Do you have any free pci slots?
[07:16] <bowie> nickrud ??
[07:16] <oliberu> yes i do
[07:16] <Anpheus> k
[07:16] <cafuego> oliberu: May i suggest a cheap pci sound card?
[07:16] <Anpheus> Here's a question for all of you
[07:17] <Anpheus> If I use a hostname instead of an IP address in this guide, will it affect anything?
[07:17] <nickrud> bowie: for this exercise, comment out all the sources that don't come from ubuntu. Then update, and then install mplayer.
[07:17] <Anpheus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:17] <oliberu> cafuego should I really change it ?
[07:17] <ubuntu> microsoft has better graphics....never seen that color blue in linux like microsofts blue screen of death :P
[07:17] <cafuego> oliberu: Well, if you're having trouble with the ISA one...
[07:17] <bowie> ok
[07:18] <cafuego> nickrud: that notice was what i was referring to ;-)
[07:18] <nickrud> cafuego: duh
[07:18] <Madpilot> Anpheus, which wiki article?
[07:18] <nickrud> or, doh!
[07:18] <thenetduck> laters
[07:18] <cafuego> oliberu: What card is it, specifically?
[07:18] !lilo:*! It looked as if all we've lost is about 1280 users, and gained most of them back, but that's odd because there are three times that many on the server.
[07:19] <oliberu> cafuego it's a Sound Blaster Pnp16 ISA
[07:19] !lilo:*! I pulled it from the main rotation and I'm looking for more user droppage.
[07:19] <Madpilot> !tell Anpheus about samba
[07:19] <crimsun_> oliberu: sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[07:19] <cafuego> oliberu: Ok, that shoudl be fairly trivial to get going, as long as the isapnp module loads.
[07:20] <peterson_> hello is there a default cd burner software in ubuntu?
[07:20] <ubuntu> yes
[07:20] <ubuntu> what do you want to burn
[07:20] <Madpilot> peterson_, Nautilus does basic data & iso burning very well
[07:20] <nickrud> peterson_: Places  CD/DVD Creator
[07:20] <ubuntu> just place in a blank disk
[07:20] <ubuntu> ive never seen that option
[07:20] <oliberu> cafuego thanks a lot
[07:20] <peterson_> hmm ok
[07:21] <ubuntu> just cd rom
[07:21] <peterson_> yah paces - cd/dvd creator is not here
[07:21] <peterson_> hehee
[07:22] <oliberu> cafuego I'm a newbie with Linux, do you know a good tutorial web site ?
[07:22] !lilo:*! No unusual load there. Hmmmm.
[07:22] <john_jimmy> hello everyone
[07:22] <ubuntu> it depend on what you want to do with the cd buner, diff methods for everything
[07:22] <Madpilot> peterson_, just stick a blank CD in your burner, you should get a window asking you what you want to do with it
[07:22] <peterson_> hmmmm
[07:22] <Anpheus> Madpilot, I'm going to see if this directory will mount now.
[07:23] <john_jimmy> I cannot play a wmv file from a mms server
[07:23] <peterson_> good tip madpilot
[07:23] <john_jimmy> with vlc
[07:23] <peterson_> john_jimmy i think you would need to install plugins for that
[07:23] <Anpheus> Madpilot: If I log out / log back in, will mounts listed in fstab reinitialize if they haven't already?
[07:23] <ubuntu> aitn that what i said ?:|
[07:23] <bowie> nickrud i get this             -virtual packet provided by 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9
[07:23] <john_jimmy> peterson_, which plugin ?
[07:23] <peterson_> i just had same problem you had a while ago
[07:23] <bowie> the mplayer
[07:23] <ubuntu> prob got to restart x server
[07:24] !lilo:*! The cool thing is that one thing I can try is to pretty much ping everybody on the server. Changing that client to nick freenode-latency.
[07:24] <bowie> nickrud is there any other repos for the mplayer?
[07:24] <john_jimmy> peterson_, I can play all local files....with vlc
[07:24] <peterson_> hmmm
[07:24] <peterson_> wmv files?
[07:24] <nickrud> bowie: use the ubuntu one, it works well, or see below
[07:24] <nickrud> !mplayer
[07:24] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:24] <john_jimmy> peterson_, some wmv files on my mms server ..
[07:25] <john_jimmy> peterson_, audio is only played
[07:25] <john_jimmy> peterson_, theres no prob on the server side
[07:25] <nickrud> bowie: ubuntu's only been around for what, a year & a half? Stable, usable outside repos are just now coming on line.
[07:26] <oliberu> While typing "su", my password doesn't work. Why ?
[07:26] <ubuntu> for being so young it sure it great
[07:26] <peterson_> hmmmn ask the experts about that, its strange cause it should work mine work fine
[07:26] <peterson_> ask the guys above
[07:26] <peterson_> hehehe
[07:26] <Anpheus> HUZZAH!
[07:26] <CrAzYoNi> Where is Ubuntu 5.10 Gnome holds it panel pictures files? Like the above panel that holds the applications picture..
[07:26] <LoCusF> !sudo
[07:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:26] <nickrud> bowie: You can do some awesome things with extra repos, using apt-pinning. But, most extra repos conflict somewhere yet.
[07:26] !lilo:*! Well, that looked not at all bad, about 3000 ping returns
[07:27] !lilo:*! You can't really tell the individual latencies but you can tell if it's jerky.
[07:27] <oliberu> The password works fine with "sudo"
[07:27] <ubuntu> peterson_: did you get burner working?
[07:28] <peterson_> yah
[07:28] <ubuntu> k
[07:28] <peterson_> thanks ubuntu\
[07:28] <peterson_> i've been using ubuntu for a while now but i was wondering about cd burner stuff, never tried it before with ubuntu good thing you told me that, many thanks!
[07:29] <lali_> ubuntu ownz
[07:29] !lilo:*! What would actually be cool is to have a ping that stops at your server on the return leg, just to get more accurate values....no sitting in a sendq. Hmmm.
[07:29] <lali_> best linux os man
[07:29] <ubuntu> np
[07:29] <lali_> ilove it
[07:29] <john_jimmy> I cant login to desktop with GDM
[07:29] <ubuntu> why
[07:29] <john_jimmy> it says ... GDM cannot write to some file..
[07:29] <john_jimmy> or the disk is full
[07:29] <ubuntu> users?
[07:29] <john_jimmy> i know my disk is not full
[07:30] <ubuntu> can you login as root?
[07:30] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, yes
[07:30] <ubuntu> or fail safe
[07:30] <john_jimmy> Ubuntu, yes I can login to terminal
[07:31] <ubuntu> reconfigure your users
[07:31] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, but I cannot login trough GDM
[07:31] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, how
[07:31] <bowie> nickrud where do ou get your mplayer?
[07:31] <ubuntu> thinkg......
[07:31] <nickrud> from ubuntu's multiverse
[07:31] <ubuntu> u get same message when you use fail safe
[07:32] <ubuntu> ?
[07:32] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, how do I reconfigure?
[07:32] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, no I dont get any message... if u are talking to me
[07:32] <ubuntu> i thiought u could login gdm as root, what file can it not right to
[07:32] <ubuntu> i am
[07:33] <realaboo> hi
[07:33] <realaboo> anyone here?
[07:33] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, what do I do?
[07:33] <oliberu> thanks a lot ! good bye ! :)
[07:33] <john_jimmy> GDM cannot write in your authorisation file. You could be short in hard disk space, or your personnal file cannot be opened in write mode, etc
[07:34] <john_jimmy> This is the actual message
[07:34] <ubuntu> what file can it not write to. prmissions might not be right
[07:34] <Fracture> i've just purchased a gigabit switch and I am able to get 700Mbits through it using iperf.  however, when transmitting fiels through samba, using nautilit, I only get 10% of that speed.  is this to be expected ?
[07:34] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell john_jimmy about xhangs
[07:34] <realaboo> help
[07:35] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz,  rm .{X,ICE}authority what does that do?
[07:35] <ubuntu> are you you logging in a a normal user or as root and have you tried both
[07:35] <bowie> nickrud no its not working
[07:35] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, I can login as both in the terminal
[07:35] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, but with gdm I cannot
[07:35] <ubuntu> ok, im asking about gdm
[07:35] <nalioth_zZz> john_jimmy: those two files can become permissioned in such a way to keep you from logging in. they are reproduced with each session, so are safe to delete
[07:35] <nickrud> bowie: paste the /etc/apt/sources.list you used for this install.
[07:36] <bowie> nickrud i use the same as you
[07:36] <RemyLaptop> !skype
[07:36] <ubotu> well, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:36] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, so all i need to do is that and I can login?
[07:36] <peterson_> ubuntu: i have two hard disks, i use the hard disk with windows as primary master.  I set my other hard disk as primary master when i installed ubuntu on it. When i set back windows hdd as the primary master and ubuntu hdd as slave, and change boot sequence on the bios, ubuntu hdd still doesn't boot up. i tried many ways like "rescue" but ubuntu hdd doesn't work if its set as a slave drive. do you have any resolution for this?
[07:36] <nalioth_zZz> john_jimmy: it will rule out some problems
[07:36] <Fracture> even with scp, I still only get < 20MB/s
[07:37] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, thanks I will try that
[07:37] <ubuntu> thinking...
[07:37] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, I just login to the terminal and then run that command and then reboot and I can login through gdm rihgt
[07:38] <peterson_> i think that has something to do with mbr right?
[07:38] <nalioth_zZz> john_jimmy: just like the instructions say
[07:38] <bowie> damn when everything goes sweet...this happen to my ubuntu!!
[07:39] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, what is that ICE...I dont use ICEWM??
[07:39] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, in  rm .{X,ICE}authority
[07:39] <nalioth_zZz> john_jimmy: it has nothing to do with icewm
[07:39] <peterson_> ubuntu: are you there?
[07:39] <nickrud> bowie: probably not really, these are mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9894
[07:39] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, then what is it?
[07:40] <nalioth_zZz> john_jimmy: i dont know. i DO know it's a known gnome bug and is safe to remove. (there are no destructive commands in the bot)
[07:40] <ubuntu> ya
[07:40] <john_jimmy> nalioth_zZz, okay thanks... I will try that and come back
[07:41] <ubuntu> reading and rereading your mesage... can you see the slave with a live cd?
[07:41] <peterson_> i haven't tried live cd yet
[07:41] <peterson_> i will try that later
[07:42] <Tezkah> anyone know how to run a program and not have it take focus in the terminal?
[07:42] <ubuntu> did you chang grub boot loader?
[07:42] <peterson_> i also did install grub on the windows hdd but when i select windows xp professional on the menu it won't push through
[07:42] <bowie> yes they are the same
[07:42] <peterson_> it just says error 21
[07:42] <SorStone> hi to all
[07:43] <peterson_> i believe that error is can't find hard drive
[07:43] <ubuntu> aint that 404 :)
[07:43] <DJ_t> what is SLI technology in a mobo?
[07:43] <peterson_> hahaa
[07:43] <cafuego> DJ_t: It allows you to link up multiple PCI-x gfx cards
[07:43] <peterson_> which is better to use Grub or LILO?
[07:44] <ubuntu> i prefer lilo but grub works for every body but you
[07:45] <MotorCityMadMan> help needed: i just cant seem to update firefox in ubuntu / i have firefox 1.5.0.1.tar.gz on the desk top / i cannot move the folder to /opt  or i just dont understand the directions
[07:45] <DJ_t> cafuego, does it make an incredibly large amount of difference gaming ?
[07:45] <peterson_> yah, but grub does work on my ubuntu hdd if its set to primary master
[07:45] <ubuntu> is grub pointing at the right direction?
[07:45] <peterson_> i believe so
[07:45] <benplaut|afk> MotorCityMadMan: are you using the tutorial in the wiki?
[07:46] <peterson_> i installed grub on both master and slave drives
[07:46] <MotorCityMadMan> yes
[07:46] <DJ_t> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524 thats the mobo i am going to get
[07:47] <ubuntu> have you tried to reinstall ubuntu to ha set to slave
[07:47] <ubuntu> hd
[07:47] <cafuego> DJ_t: what, glx and no glx? yes.
[07:47] <_0331_USMC> What is a good syntax-highlighted text editor for the command line?  As if I had a server?
[07:48] <MotorCityMadMan> benplaut|afk, i'm using this addy for help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:48] <bowie> nickrud bye and thank you for help me
[07:48] <Psykus> gnome question, is there any way to specify for a shortcut, if the application is already open, to switch focus to that application? as opposed to launching a new instance/window of it
[07:48] <nickrud> bowie: it all came out ok?
[07:48] <benplaut|afk> MotorCityMadMan: ahh
[07:48] <benplaut|afk> i can't help you atm, but someone else will need that info ;)
[07:48] <MotorCityMadMan> i cannot extract tar into /opt
[07:49] <bowie> nickrud ok i'll try tomorrow
[07:49] <_0331_USMC> Also, how would I set it up so that whenever I go to log onto a computer on my network, all the users are stored on one server that has all the user's files and stuff?
[07:49] <benplaut|afk> MotorCityMadMan: try asking in #ubuntuforums. The people in the aren't the most technical, but most have installed ff1.5
[07:49] <DJ_t> cafuego, so if i get a dual-core SLI mobo, get 2 pci-x vid cards, if i plug one monitor into one of the vid cards will both vid cards combine 2 make the graphics better/faster?
[07:49] <nickrud> Psykus: you might want to look into the package wmctrl , it has some stuff for things like that
[07:49] <cafuego> DJ_t: Oh sorry, SLI. Nvidia have aid they're not interested in supporting SLI for Linux.
[07:50] <cafuego> DJ_t: I think the aim is to make the game run accelerated on up to 8 monitors,.
[07:50] <Draconicus> I added an ethernet controller card after installation. How can I get Ubuntu to see it?
[07:51] <DJ_t> cafuego, i met a guy tonight at compusa who has been using linux for 10+ years and he suggested the dualcore SLI mobo
[07:51] <cafuego> DJ_t: good for him <heh>
[07:51] <ubuntu> http://www.xs4all.nl/~lennartb/bootloaders/node7.html look here for the grub prob it might help
[07:51] <DJ_t> cafuego, why would he suggest SLI knowing i use linux if it wasnt supported?
[07:51] <cafuego> DJ_t: The mobo might be nice, the issue is whether the druivers support SLI or not.
[07:52] <cafuego> DJ_t: Because the rest of the mobo might still be nice.
[07:52] <cafuego> DJ_t: it'll still work fine when you have a single gfx card.
[07:52] <cafuego> DJ_t: Or perhaps he just didn't know what he was talking about.
[07:52] <MotorCityMadMan> ok, maybe one more thing: when i installed ubuntu there is a hda1 on the desktop/ i cannot open this icon / i can i open this ?
[07:53] <ubuntu> does your bios ses  the hd set to slave
[07:53] <DJ_t> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=267&num=1
[07:53] <kyleD> what is a good p2p program for ubuntu?
[07:53] <ubuntu> peterson? u there
[07:53] <kyleD> i just downloaded the live cd i want to check out some programs
[07:53] <amicrawler> how to install nvidia driivers
[07:53] <ubuntu> limewire or appolon
[07:53] <cafuego> well well, nvidia have changed their minds eh?
[07:54] <engla> kyleD: there is valknut for DC
[07:54] <cafuego> !tell amicrawler -about nvidia
[07:54] <DJ_t> cafuego, i guess so
[07:54] <DJ_t> so all you need to support SLI in linux now is a driver, correct?
[07:55] <ubuntu> brb. smoke break
[07:55] <ErosPhiliaAgape> anyone here use wpa to access wireless networks?
[07:55] <cafuego> DJ_t: It would appear so. Well, and an SLI mobo and multiple (expensive) gfx cards.
[07:56] <Draconicus> Will no one help me with my ethernet card problem? D:
[07:56] <kyleD> if im running the live cd of ubuntu, where would i save programs to?
[07:56] <ErosPhiliaAgape> i can't get my laptop running ubuntu 5.10 to connect to a wpa secured network
[07:56] <DJ_t> cafuego, think its worth it?
[07:56] <ErosPhiliaAgape> kyleD - you would have to mount a partition of your harddrive
[07:56] <cafuego> DJ_t: Nah
[07:57] <kyleD> heh
[07:57] <kyleD> dang
[07:57] <ErosPhiliaAgape> kyleD - so that it saves to a physical drive, not just memory
[07:57] <DJ_t> dual-core SLI mobo is only 114, 2.2 dualcore cpu is about 350-400 ..
[07:57] <kyleD> ill have to do it on my other computer, this one isnt mine
[07:57] <kyleD> on my computer i cant connect to the net, my wifi card isnt supported i dont think
[07:57] <kyleD> this one works fine though, this OS is great
[07:58] <ErosPhiliaAgape> hmm, i know my wifi card is supported (intel 2200bg pro
[07:58] <ErosPhiliaAgape> )
[07:58] <kyleD> i have an old one
[07:58] <ErosPhiliaAgape> since i am connected right now through it :p but it is on an unsecured network
[07:58] <kyleD> dlink DWL520 or something
[07:58] <cafuego> DJ_t: If you're after a gaming rig, get a high-clocked single core cpu and a high end gfx card
[07:58] <ErosPhiliaAgape> i want to be able to connect to a WPA-PSK network, not just WEP encryption
[07:59] <kyleD> if i did happen to get the wireless to work, my network wouldnt show up would it?
[07:59] <cafuego> DJ_t: If not, get a lower clocked multicore cpu
[07:59] <cafuego> ErosPhiliaAgape: You need to download and install wpasupplicant.
[07:59] <ErosPhiliaAgape> can i apt-get install wpasupplicant?
[08:00] <ErosPhiliaAgape> hmm, apparently so!
[08:00] <Psykus> ubuntu/linux isn't the most ideal solution for gaming..for games that support linux, it's great, but cedega doesn't work for 100% of the titles out there
[08:01] <DJ_t> cafuego, what is the difference with dual-core, is it like having 2 computers in one? ( Dual boot, have ubuntu and a different OS running at the same time, different monitors ) ?
[08:01] <Keyframe> I have a really stupid problem, guys :) can't remember the name of the firewall I've installed.. and I can't restar machine now so I can check up to see the message it pumps up at the start, something about needing to configure it
[08:01] <ubuntu> no but 97%
[08:01] <Amaranth> Keyframe: dmesg
[08:02] <jasonkang86> can we install online games on Linux Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Keyframe> can't see it in dmesg :/
[08:03] <DJ_t> Keyframe, is it firestarter?
[08:03] <Keyframe> no
[08:03] <ubuntu> guarddog?
[08:03] <Keyframe> it's quite popular, but can't remember the name :D
[08:03] <Keyframe> no, not guarddog
[08:04] <Keyframe> I'm retarded damnit
[08:04] <Madpilot> Keyframe, firestarter?
[08:04] <Keyframe> no, not firestarted
[08:05] <Psykus> jasonkang86, what do you mean by online games?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Keyframe: shorewall?
[08:05] <ubuntu> smothwall
[08:05] <Keyframe> that's it!
[08:05] <Keyframe> thanks :)
[08:05] <Keyframe> shorewall
[08:05] <benplaut|afk> jasonkang86: any specific ones in mind?
[08:06] <jasonkang86> playing onlinegames
[08:07] <csseyah> hey guys! anyone have winetools???
[08:07] <ubuntu> apt get
[08:07] <csseyah> can you help me how to configure
[08:08] <ubuntu> still tring to myself
[08:08] <ubuntu> where u stuck at
[08:08] <csseyah> who me??
[08:08] <Keyframe> weird, if my wifi router is restarted, I thought ubuntu should figure out by itself to reconnect somehow? what's the manual procedure to reconnect it?
[08:08] <ubuntu> yes
[08:09] <jasonkang86> playingR.A.N online
[08:09] <lakcaj> Keyframe:
[08:09] <lakcaj> ifdown eth0
[08:09] <lakcaj> ifup eth0
[08:09] <Hobbsee> Keyframe: or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:09] <Keyframe> works for wlan0 also?
[08:09] <Hobbsee> Keyframe: yes, just substitute the correct name
[08:09] <ubuntu> csseyah. you there? whats the prob
[08:09] <lakcaj> Keyframe, sorry, didn't notice the wireless part at first
[08:09] <Keyframe> thanks
[08:09] <Hobbsee> you might need dhcilent wlan0
[08:09] <csseyah> yahh
[08:10] <csseyah> im here
[08:10] <csseyah> i already install
[08:10] <csseyah> it
[08:10] <ubuntu> k
[08:10] <lakcaj> Hobbsee, ifup/down should call the appropriate dhcp client, as in /etc/interfaces
[08:10] <csseyah> but
[08:10] <csseyah> theres a problem
[08:10] <csseyah> i can't start
[08:10] <Hobbsee> lakcaj: yes, should
[08:10] <Keyframe> i'll trz with ifup/ifdown .. restarting daemon should work too I think
[08:10] <csseyah> do i need to restart
[08:11] <brendanh> hey everybody! i have a question. i have a server that can't access the internet outside of the LAN (for security) running ubuntu. i have client computers who can access the internet. is there a way to 'tunnel' through one of the clients so that the server can access for ubuntu updates/packages? i'm not quite sure what this is called.. maybe proxy??
[08:11] <ubuntu> what happans when you tri to start it?
[08:11] <jerware> is there some kind of automattic printer detector?
[08:11] <ewood> Seems kind of an anal security policy..
[08:12] <brendanh> ewood: was that in reference to me?
[08:12] <kyleD> can i make a partition while im on  ubuntu from a live cd?
[08:12] <csseyah> it says error while loading libraries
[08:12] <ewood> Why?
[08:12] <csseyah> cannot open shared libraries
[08:12] <ewood> yes
[08:12] <brendanh> just wondering. it's acutally not by my choice.. the network admin won't give me an IP that can access the www
[08:12] <ewood> oh
[08:13] <ubuntu> seems like install went bad but a restart might do it if not reinstall it
[08:13] <brendanh> i just need a way to tunnel around it
[08:13] <csseyah> ic
[08:13] <csseyah> ok i will try
[08:13] <csseyah> thanks ubuntu
[08:13] <csseyah> brb
[08:13] <ubuntu> k, let me know
[08:13] <csseyah> sure
[08:13] <ewood> I'd say if the client offers internet connection sharing, it'd be a way to do it..
[08:13] <CarlFK> shouldn't there be a dapper entry? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libmjpegtools0
[08:13] <brendanh> is that a std. feature in ubuntu
[08:14] <ewood> Ubuntu has stds? What??
[08:14] <ubuntu> :)
[08:14] <brendanh> i mean... is it some 'package'
[08:14] <ewood> Whew, glad I'm usin' Fedora Core
[08:14] <ewood> A package with std.
[08:14] <DJ_t> can a dualcore system have 2 OS's running at the same time?
[08:15] <ewood> Dual CPU systems aren't designed for that.
[08:15] <Keyframe> DJ_t, in parallel?
[08:15] <CarlFK> DJ_t: yes.  Zen ;)
[08:15] <DJ_t> Keyframe, yea
[08:15] <Keyframe> damn this xchat, is there a better IRC client :)
[08:15] <ewood> But I expect some sort of virtual machine emulation could use one of the two CPUs or something.
[08:15] <Keyframe> DJ_t, nah, only through virtualization in one OS
[08:16] <RemyLaptop> hey, how can I make a program minimize up next to the clock like gaim does ?
[08:16] <RemyLaptop> in the "system" tray
[08:16] <ewood> I even just saw a program listed somewhere that does that..
[08:16] <ewood> For the system tray question
[08:16] <ewood> But I don't remember anything about it..
[08:17] <Keyframe> ubuntu should come with firewall by default
[08:17] <jerware> how can i have my printer detected automatticaly
[08:17] <ubuntu> iptables...i thinke is already there, just got to config ur self
[08:18] <Draconicus> I added an ethernet controller card after installation. How can I get Ubuntu to see it?
[08:19] <Keyframe> I know this might sound stupid, but now that I've installed everything I need, and everything is working like it should.. can I somehow make a snapshot of whole system and burn it on CD or DVD and restore it at will from that?
[08:19] <kyleD> i want to instal ubuntu on a machine that i have installed vector linux on
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Draconicus: check if it already did in lspci
[08:19] <kyleD> should i format the machine?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Keyframe: yeah, howto on ubuntuforums.org called back up your system, or something similar.  it's in the howto's section
[08:20] <Keyframe> thanks, I'll look it up now
[08:20] <Draconicus> Hobbsee: It didn't... D:
[08:21] <Hobbsee> Draconicus: tried rebooting the machine?
[08:21] <Hobbsee> i havent found a way to force it to do a hardware detect apart from that
[08:21] <bezak|zzzZZZzzz> man this update to dapper has taken like 2 days
[08:22] <csseyah> the error msg...
[08:22] <Draconicus> Hobbsee: Yep.
[08:23] <bigfoot1> how can i convert wma audio to mp3 audio? sound-converter can't seem to do it
[08:24] <csseyah> it say that!-> error while loading shared libraries: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open the shared object file. No such file or Directory
[08:25] <ubuntu> accept direct chat
[08:25] <Amaranth> csseyah: finding it, hang on
[08:25] <Amaranth> no, don't accept direct chat
[08:25] <csseyah> why??
[08:25] <ubuntu> meany :P
[08:26] <csseyah> why not??
[08:26] <csseyah> whats wrong??
[08:26] <Amaranth> csseyah: install the libgtk1.2 package
[08:26] <ubuntu> is libgtk-1.2.so even installed?
[08:26] <csseyah> wer can i find that libgtk1.2
[08:26] <bk> does anyone know any good channel for help with C programming with a GNU compiler?
[08:26] <ubuntu> search in synaptic
[08:26] <csseyah> do i find that in adept?
[08:26] <Amaranth> bk: does ##c exist?
[08:27] <Amaranth> csseyah: if you enable universe
[08:27] <Amaranth> csseyah: i have no idea how to do that from adept
[08:27] <Amaranth> !repos
[08:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:27] <csseyah> brb guys
[08:27] <kyleD> can someone tell me, if i have vector linux on a harddrive, and want to instal ubuntu now, should i format or install over vector or what?
[08:27] <ubuntu> amaranth: whats wrong wih direct chat?
[08:27] <kyleD> also if i format will i have to remake the partitions?
[08:28] <Amaranth> ubuntu: there is some DCC vuln
[08:29] <ubuntu> k, dos?
[08:29] <Amaranth> kyleD: the ubuntu installer will make partitions and wipe the drive for you
[08:29] <kyleD> really?
[08:29] <Amaranth> yeah
[08:29] <ubuntu> when they gona patch it?
[08:29] <kyleD> because in vector i had to make the partitions, and i never did that before it was confusing, not looking forward to doing it again
[08:29] <Keyframe> hmm, when I start synaptic it says could'nt stat source packgage list http://blablabla
[08:29] <Amaranth> Keyframe: does it still start?
[08:30] <Keyframe> yes
[08:30] <Amaranth> Keyframe: if yes, click the reload button
[08:31] <kyleD> i installed vector linux over win98, will ubuntu install also wipe that clean for me?
[08:31] <ubuntu> yep
[08:31] <techubus>  /join #debian
[08:31] <kyleD> sweet
[08:31] <kyleD> thanks
[08:31] <Keyframe> hmm well, it stalls now on some of repos
[08:31] <kyleD> im gonna use it on a spare pc to warm up to it, before i do a dual boot system
[08:31] <Keyframe> maybe they are down
[08:31] <ubuntu> over write you harddrive. backup waht you want first
[08:31] <kyleD> oh, i dont need anything from this one
[08:32] <Amaranth> Keyframe: what ones?
[08:32] <kyleD> its just a spare, i use it to test linux and whatever
[08:32] <Keyframe> koti.mbnet.fi or something
[08:32] <kyleD> so that i dont mess up my normal system from being a newb ;x
[08:32] <Amaranth> kyleD: iirc it'll even automatically resize a windows partition to make room for itself, make the new partitions, and setup dual boot for you
[08:32] <Amaranth> kyleD: but i'd give it a test run first, yeah
[08:33] <Keyframe> ok, now everything works :)
[08:33] <ubuntu> Amaranth: ubuntu wont do that
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, kyleD: Correct, I've done exactly that twice.
[08:34] <Amaranth> ubuntu: it used to
[08:34] <kyleD> dang, it wont do that?
[08:34] <Amaranth> it did in hoary, i don't see why it wouldn't now
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, kyleD: Except for the automatically part.  It involves some input.
[08:34] <john_jimmy> ubuntu, I tried to rm the Xauthority file and still cannot login to GDM
[08:34] <Amaranth> well, sure
[08:34] <Amaranth> you have to move down to the option that says "do everything for me" and hit enter
[08:34] <kyleD> lol
[08:35] <kyleD> sounds easy enough
[08:35] <s|k> will xgl come with dapper out of the box?
[08:35] <Amaranth> no
[08:35] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, I cannot login through GDM ... Can you hel
[08:35] <s|k> why not :(
[08:35] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, I cannot login through GDM ... Can you help
[08:35] <kyleD> my partitions are all messed up, im not sure what im doing exactly, couldnt find a good help file on partitioning a hd
[08:35] <Amaranth> xglx is no where near ready
[08:35] <Amaranth> john_jimmy: please don't repeat yourself
[08:35] <Amaranth> john_jimmy: what error are you getting?
[08:35] <ubuntu> it says "the default installation will erase all existing software and data from you pc. however an expert mode is. if you want to keep you existing files alongside ubuntu, follow the instruction carefully durning boot"
[08:36] <kyleD> thanks for the help guys
[08:36] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, the disk is full .. But its not
[08:36] <kyleD> im gonna start downloading the full install now
[08:36] <Draconicus> Can anyone help me get my ethernet card working?
[08:36] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, I filled it doing something... but when I free it up
[08:36] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, it still doesnt login
[08:37] <Amaranth> john_jimmy: did you free up space by putting the files in the trash?
[08:37] <Amaranth> ubuntu: that's one of the options, sure
[08:37] <ubuntu> oh ya that works :P
[08:37] <ubuntu> im using 5.10, what do you have
[08:37] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, I used rm and removed ...the disk is not 80% used
[08:38] <ubuntu> what about your swap?
[08:38] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, I have about 1GB free
[08:38] <Amaranth> john_jimmy: that's...odd
[08:38] <Keyframe> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg - anzone has idea what this might be?
[08:39] <Amaranth> riddell's key for kubuntu packages
[08:39] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, yes... It used to show the GDM cannot write to some file... but after I removed the Xauthority file .. It says that the disk is full or some installation prob
[08:39] <Amaranth> why?
[08:39] <Amaranth> john_jimmy: remove the .ICEauthority file
[08:39] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, it says there is no such file
[08:40] <Amaranth> hmm
[08:40] <Amaranth> i just ran out of ideas :/
[08:40] <s|k> I don't want xglx
[08:40] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, where do u think I can get some help
[08:40] <s|k> I want xegl :0
[08:40] <Madpilot> john_jimmy, try ubuntuforums.org
[08:40] <ubuntu> email ubuntu
[08:41] <john_jimmy> Amaranth, Okay
[08:41] <Amaranth> s|k: neither one is anywhere near useable as a default
[08:41] <s|k> yeah
[08:41] <s|k> when I get dapper I'm going to try it out at least though ;P
[08:41] <s|k> backing everything up ofc
[08:41] <Amaranth> aiglx is where we want to be
[08:42] <Amaranth> at least for now
[08:42] <ubuntu> ill try it in april when its done
[08:42] <ubuntu> cant wait to see hte new gnome
[08:42] <Amaranth> too bad using aiglx in dapper right now makes all OpenGL stuff break
[08:42] <s|k> aren't nvidia and ati being cool about supporting xgl
[08:42] <Amaranth> and doesn't even give you accelerated rendering
[08:42] <Amaranth> s|k: ATI is doing basically nothing
[08:43] <Amaranth> s|k: nvidia wants aiglx
[08:43] <s|k> they've said they'd release binary drivers to support it
[08:43] <ubuntu> why do you want to use wine?
[08:43] <csseyah> i want to install the macromedia flash here in linux
[08:43] <s|k> are there screenshots of aiglx?
[08:43] <csseyah> and photoshop as well
[08:43] <Amaranth> s|k: pretty easy to promise stuff for a platform "when it's API/ABI is stable" when you know that's never going to happen
[08:44] <Amaranth> s|k: aiglx does all the things xglx does, just without a seperate xserver
[08:44] <s|k> oh
[08:44] <Amaranth> the eyecandy is all in the compositor (metacity and compiz)
[08:44] <ubuntu> did you try to upgread wine?
[08:45] <csseyah> actually the latest version of wine i installed
[08:45] <csseyah> here
[08:45] <marlun> If I want to start developing applications for gnome in c++ I was told to get gtkmm which is the c++ interface to gtk+, is it in the repositories somewhere? I couldn't find gtkmm.
[08:45] <csseyah> can u suggest me some alternative
[08:46] <ufo> !ati
[08:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:46] <ubuntu> win4lin
[08:46] <Sp4rKy> hii
[08:46] <csseyah> is that easy to used???
[08:46] <ubuntu> but you have to install windows under linux,
[08:46] <Sp4rKy> berrkkkk
[08:46] <ubuntu> prety much
[08:46] <s|k> Amaranth: aiglx demo: http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/aiglx/shot01.ogg :)
[08:46] <csseyah> ic
[08:47] <Amaranth> marlun: libgtkmm-2.4-1c2 and libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[08:47] <csseyah> i need to have a windows platform
[08:47] <Amaranth> s|k: that's metacity
[08:47] <csseyah> in order to install that
[08:47] <marlun> Amaranth, Thanks! Thats all I need? =)
[08:47] <Amaranth> marlun: more or less, yeah
[08:47] <Keyframe> why the hell ajunta makes so many files in a project? :D
[08:47] <s|k> it's aiglx
[08:47] <s|k> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
[08:47] <Keyframe> it looks like a NASA version of hello world damnit
[08:48] <ubuntu> well, you install windows "or any other os" inside win4lin, you run windows inside linux
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: it's metacity
[08:48] <Madpilot> Keyframe, language, thanks
[08:48] <s|k> oh
[08:48] <csseyah> ic
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: aiglx is just the thing that makes what metacity does go fast
[08:48] <csseyah> i get it
[08:48] <csseyah> :p
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: xlglx makes metacity go fast too
[08:48] <csseyah> hehehe
[08:48] <Keyframe> Madpilot, ?
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: and compiz
[08:48] <Keyframe> c++
[08:48] <csseyah> thats make me laugh!!!
[08:48] <csseyah> :p
[08:48] <s|k> can I put metacity effects like that on breezy?
[08:48] <csseyah> it's cool
[08:48] <Madpilot> Keyframe, no, I meant the swearing, actually - as in, please don't... :P
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: no
[08:49] <ubuntu> windows runs better inde linux :)
[08:49] <csseyah> hehehehehe
[08:49] <s|k> :(
[08:49] <cyphase> what's the best audio/video player/recorder? :)
[08:49] <cyphase> the recorder doesn't have to record video
[08:50] <s|k> I like rythmbox for audio
[08:50] <Keyframe> oh, I was swearing? :D sorry, english is not my first language.. da**it means something like let it be cursed or something here.. which is not swearing..more of a polite way of saying things don't work
[08:50] <ubuntu> i downloaded win4lin with amule,
[08:50] <cafuego> cyphase: rhythmbox/vlc/audacity
[08:50] <cyphase> uhh
[08:50] <csseyah> ohh know
[08:50] <cyphase> my mistake
[08:50] <cyphase> i meant a device
[08:50] <cyphase> not program :)
[08:50] <csseyah> i don't have crack for it
[08:50] <ubuntu> i have it :)
[08:50] <cafuego> ubuntu: warez have _NO_ place on this channel.
[08:51] <csseyah> do  u have a kind heart to share it to me???
[08:51] <ubuntu> no
[08:51] <csseyah> :p
[08:51] <Amaranth> Please take the copyright infringement talk elsewhere.
[08:51] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:51] <csseyah> ic
[08:51] <ubuntu> i really did not know it was a toucy subject here. sorry again
[08:52] <cafuego> ubuntu; Anyone with half  abrain would know.
[08:52] <defrysk> ubuntu, its not touchy, its illegal
[08:52] <CarinArr> heh
[08:52] <cafuego> Haha! I broke into my neighbour's house and stole his tv!
[08:52] <Amaranth> Some of us write programs for a living. Talks about cracking them isn't fun. :P
[08:54] <ubuntu> thats the whole dam* reason i went to linux so i wouldnt have to steel software, that was a couple years ago
[08:54] <CarinArr> well
[08:54] <Psykus> just because it's on linux doesn't mean it will be free
[08:54] <elkbuntu> how about we cease this subject before people get aggrevated
[08:54] <ubuntu> no but the thing i like are
[08:55] <ubuntu> please
[08:55] <CarinArr> if we want commercial companies to take an interest in linux and release high end applications for it we'll probably have to accept we'd have to pay for them
[08:55] <robinl1> hey, i wondered how to clear the playlist of Muine player
[08:55] <cafuego> ubuntu: Get a job, buy the software. Works fien for millions of people.
[08:55] <Amaranth> new topic :P
[08:55] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, i tried
[08:55] <HalfbakednTx> Ok here is a desktop screenshot of a newly windows convert LOL    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/halfbakedntx/Screenshot-1.png
[08:55] <ubuntu> i know, you should see how much i do spen on linux each month, lots of mags and books
[08:55] <Francisco> on what program can I make formulas of math."??
[08:55] <HalfbakednTx> basically me LOL
[08:55] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I have a bit more say in the matter. ;)
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, for print?
[08:56] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, yes, but it's annoying more than just you
[08:56] <elkbuntu> at very least they could take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, or for actually evaluating them?
[08:56] <Amaranth> robinl1: I believe you have to select everything in the list and then right click.
[08:56] <Francisco> both...
[08:56] <HalfbakednTx> I could be in here on BitchX or whatever.. but its just funny i am in virtual Windows with a Ubunto host ;-)
[08:56] <Francisco> CarinArr, both.""
[08:56] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I meant because I can kick them, not believe I'm a programmer. :)
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, er.. not sure about evaluating them.. latex allows you to print them very nicely tho
[08:56] <CarinArr> :)
[08:57] <Madpilot> robinl1, Playlist -> Clear
[08:57] <Amaranth> err, because
[08:57] <Amaranth> no more typing at 2 am
[08:57] <CarinArr> can't really evaluate most the bloody formulae i'm dealing with;
[08:57] <CarinArr> ;)
[08:57] <slvmchn> anyone recommend a program for recording or streaming video
[08:57] <mebaran151> does anyone know how to use bzr to access an archive over ftp-ssl or at least ftp with password
[08:57] <Amaranth> flumotion?
[08:58] <Amaranth> i don't think bzr speaks ftp
[08:58] <mebaran151> it does
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: yes, sftp works: bzr get sftp://host/path
[08:58] <Francisco> CarinArr, I have used Kite ... but it have some problems with syntaxis..
[08:58] <mebaran151> pitti, not sftp
[08:58] <mebaran151> I don't have sftp access to this machine
[08:58] <mebaran151> I have ftp-ssl
[08:58] <mebaran151> or ftp with login
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: oh, sorry then
[08:58] <CarinArr> francisco, no idea about that, sorry:/
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: ftp with password is just evil..., (but ftp-ssl is interesting, true)
[08:59] <mebaran151> I get FAR BETTER transfer rates over ftp-ssl than with sftp
[08:59] <mebaran151> not sure why
[08:59] <mebaran151> but I do :)
[08:59] <mebaran151> like 256 kbps vs. 5 mb/s over my LAN
[08:59] <Medlem> Hello! :)
[08:59] <mebaran151> not sure why ftp is so slow....
[09:00] <Medlem> I'm just trying out all programs in the gnome desktop in ubuntu :=)
[09:00] <ubuntu> hope you like it
[09:00] <Medlem> I think i will :] 
[09:00] <Medlem> Just now i love it
[09:00] <Medlem> Not as messy as other dist i have tried.
[09:01] <Medlem> "Oh no, do you find all my devices on my computer without me doing anything, im so mad" ^
[09:01] <Medlem> Gotta find a guide so i can test all different kind of fun stuff :D
[09:02] <pussfeller> slvmchn: yer probably wanting to use mplayer to record streams
[09:02] <ubuntu> try the faq at ubuntus site
[09:02] <ubuntu> its loaded
[09:02] <ubuntu> with info
[09:02] <pussfeller> slvmchn: i know it works with stranscoding asfs and such to wavs for audio files, i dont know how well it works for vid but it does, somehow
[09:02] <Medlem> I will try that one. My gold is to get a environment where i can run both kde-desktop, xfce and gnome. :)
[09:03] <elkbuntu> Medlem, you can do that with ubuntu easily
[09:03] <tag> How would I go about getting a list of packages that aren't dependencies to other packages?
[09:03] <mebaran151> do you guys prefer bzr or mecurial
[09:03] <tag> I want to examine all the "ends" of my dependency chains, and remove any extra crap I don't want
[09:03] <mebaran151> and how easy would it be to change between the two
[09:03] <mebaran151> ?
[09:03] <Amaranth> tag: debfoster and/or deborphan
[09:03] <cafuego> svn
[09:04] <elkbuntu> Medlem, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <Amaranth> mebaran151: canonical sponsors bzr development so some of us might be biased ;)
[09:04] <Medlem> elkbuntu: I think so. I just havnt looked in the FAQs yet. Everything has been pressing a button or so. Not like gentoo where you have to spend a week reading about different flags.  Oh so i can just choose which session when i log in?
[09:04] <yuri_> hi, could someone tell me how to write launcher scripts? for example, I have a program called "cksfv". it checks. .sfv files. the command to check is "cksfv -f file.sfv" what do i put in the "open with" command line so that when i open it it runs the terminal with that command?
[09:05] <elkbuntu> Medlem, i just told you how
[09:05] <elkbuntu> and yes, you just choose the session
[09:05] <ubuntu> afk
[09:06] <Medlem> elkbuntu: I know. :) But i heard from a friend that it will replace existing environment. But i can always try :] 
[09:06] <Medlem> Oh
[09:06] <Medlem> Ni
[09:06] <Medlem> Nice
[09:06] <Medlem> Thanks very much for help!
[09:06] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:06] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:06] <mebaran151> Amaranth, so far bzr has been easy to use on a personal little program I'm writing
[09:06] <mebaran151> but it's inability to do ftp with login
[09:06] <mebaran151> is just annoying
[09:07] <mebaran151> to specify -p or something
[09:07] <mebaran151> I should think the python stdlib can open ftp-ssl like the ruby library does
[09:07] <Amaranth> bzr is powerful yet easy-to-use, that's my favorite part :)
[09:07] <mebaran151> and put works otu the same way
[09:07] <mebaran151> I'd think that ftp access would be stdlibrary work
[09:08] <HalfbakednTx> Well Ubuntu taking the free distro by storm.. Fedora peeps freaking out. Calling the next FC distro Fedoruntu... Oh an following that will be Novell Susuntu....
[09:08] <mebaran151> is the python lib so under powered?
[09:10] <Amaranth> mebaran151: i dunno, i've never tried
[09:10] <mebaran151> Amaranth, if python makes it so hard....
[09:10] <Amaranth> mebaran151: ftp-ssl is a bit exotic though
[09:10] <yuri_> can someone help me out? I want to create a launcher script in the format "cksfv -f file.sfv" where "file.sfv" is the file I am launching
[09:10] <mebaran151> ftp-ssl is
[09:10] <mebaran151> but amazingly
[09:10] <mebaran151> ruby took a very smart move
[09:10] <FoamY_LappY> how do i get my battry icon back on my lappy? i removed it by accedent and now i can't get it back where it was
[09:11] <mebaran151> you can Kernel.opne("Qualified path anem") and it will IO open the resource for reading and writing
[09:11] <elkbuntu> FoamY_LappY, right click on the panel, select 'add to panel'
[09:11] <mebaran151> right way to open IO I think
[09:11] <mebaran151> it's amazing so many people use python.....
[09:11] <Steil> With epiphany, what news feed reader is required to use the news feed subscription plugin?
[09:11] <elkbuntu> FoamY_LappY, and it's the first under the system and hardware group
[09:12] <mebaran151> bzr is awesome though, so much better than arch....
[09:12] <mebaran151> somethings caused me pain....
[09:12] <FoamY_LappY> ok thank you
[09:15] <nickrud> Steil: try liferea, I think that one works
[09:16] <Steil> Okay, thanks :)
[09:16] <Medlem> I think kde will kill my laptop :=)
[09:16] <elkbuntu> Medlem, laptop's specs?
[09:17] <Medlem> elkbuntu: 900mhz p3 192 ram, and real old harddrive. It is just the install part that is gonna kill it because the harddrive is so slow, managed to run kde on this laptop before without any problems :)
[09:18] <elkbuntu> Medlem, it shouldnt hurt it too bad
[09:18] <Medlem> elkbuntu, Haha, we can always hope that. The harddrive gonna die anyday soon :-)
[09:19] <elkbuntu> Medlem, ebay time ;)
[09:19] <Medlem> If I run Unviserse and Multiuniverse, is still legal?
[09:19] <Medlem> elkbuntu, haha. probably. :P
[09:19] <Medlem> is it still legal*
[09:20] <elkbuntu> yes, it's not illegally gotten stuff, it's just stuff that's not directly supported by ubuntu for whatever reason
[09:21] <Medlem> elkbuntu, Ok, like i supposed then. Well, you are a great source of information :] 
[09:22] <nickrud> Medlem: the stuff in multiverse is legally distributable *somewhere*
[09:23] <Medlem> nickrud, haha, always something. "Somewhere, not here" :P
[09:23] <elkbuntu> Medlem, as for kde, if you have another computer, avoid using the computer while you're installing the kubuntu package, to avoid undue stress on the system
[09:23] <nickrud> Medlem: sadly true for me, maybe less for you
[09:23] <Medlem> elkbuntu|foooood, I have installed it now, this old thing can still multitask, scary enough :D
[09:24] <Medlem> nickrud, Why is it bad for you+
[09:24] <nickrud> Medlem: usa, patent laws
[09:25] <Medlem> nickrud, The world of software patent. Bah. Politicans dont know anything, they will probably patent air or something.
[09:26] <Medlem> nickrud, Isnt that so that you can't use some software if you live there?
[09:26] <Medlem> legally
[09:27] <kditty> ahahaha
[09:27] <kditty> the live cd works, and my wireless works also.... looks like ubuntu install it is
[09:28] <Medlem> kditty, Haha, had the same feeling two days ago.
[09:28] <nickrud> Medlem: install vrms, it tells me I have 12 non-free packages
[09:29] <Medlem> Oh, ok!
[09:29] <Medlem> Breakfast.
[09:30] <kditty> im just a little happy
[09:30] <kditty> this computer is old, and slow with win xp
[09:30] <aroticoz> How do I install deb files ?
[09:30] <kditty> couldnt find a distro that would offer drivers for my video,sound or wireless card
[09:31] <sHaDe> dpkg -i name.deb
[09:31] <kditty> medlem, is the instal pretty easy, and did you set up dual boot or strictly linux?
[09:31] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:34] <chuckyp> can someone just talk back to me.  i.e. chuckyp blah or something i'm testing something.
[09:35] <Madpilot> chuckyp, ?
[09:35] <chuckyp> ty hrmmm.... let me try something
[09:35] <kditty> chuckyp, i'm pregnant
[09:36] <chuckyp> thats cool wow this is goofy
[09:36] <kditty> chuckyp, it's yours
[09:36] <StudyUrNme> ooh, marriage
[09:36] <ZAKhan> can i install ubuntu on mac g5?
[09:37] <kditty> i think i seen mac setup files...
[09:37] <kditty> im a newb myself so im not sure
[09:37] <zyth> kditty, G5 = pp64
[09:37] <zyth> afaik
[09:37] <zyth> ppc64..
[09:37] <ZAKhan> so i can it means?
[09:37] <jock09> !restricted
[09:37] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:37] <aroticoz> how can I copy all files form one dir to another from the terminal ?
[09:38] <zyth> ZAKhan, nah looks like it can be put on a imac g5
[09:38] <ZAKhan> is there any distro which will work on mag G5
[09:38] <ZAKhan> mac
[09:38] <jock09> ubuntu will
[09:39] <zyth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130040
[09:39] <kditty> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks.
[09:39] <zyth> there ya go
[09:39] <kditty> thats what the website says
[09:39] <jock09> yes the powerpc version is for macs
[09:39] <ZAKhan> oh thanks
[09:39] <chuckyp> There we go much better
[09:40] <kditty> whats funny is that i am only on a live cd, first time running ubuntu, and still knew the answer and im a complete newbie
[09:40] <techubus> aroticoz:  while in the directory you want to copy from type cp * /wherever/blah
[09:40] <kditty> ZAKhan you have to read buddy
[09:40] <kditty> google is your best friend :D
[09:40] <fabien> hello
[09:40] <kditty> hi
[09:41] <chuckyp> now someone try it again
[09:41] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:41] <chuckyp> kditty, can you do it again i'm testing this systray notification.
[09:41] <kditty> chuckyp i luh u
[09:41] <fabien> I want to install an ubuntu 5.10 with the netboot method out I can't find the pxe archive for my architecture (AMD64). Can I use the one for i386 ?
[09:42] <chuckyp> kditty, thanx
[09:42] <fabien> s/out/but
[09:42] <kditty> np
[09:42] <kditty> im a dude
[09:42] <kditty> dont go getting any ideas ;D
[09:42] <chuckyp> who be trying to use sed
[09:42] <chuckyp> nm
[09:43] <chuckyp> oh yeah how do I add an applet by the clock?
[09:43] <ewood> Can't be many girls out there messing around with Ubuntu.. can there?
[09:43] <kditty> well there are a few
[09:43] <jock09> ubuntuforums has a womens section
[09:43] <ewood> Hm
[09:43] <kditty> messing with more advanced stuff than windows
[09:44] <jock09> lol
[09:44] <chuckyp> lolerz
[09:44] <kditty> what do you think inspired me to get with the program?!
[09:44] <ewood> Yeah, TTBs are a rarity for me
[09:44] <kditty> my little sister succesfully installed linux
[09:44] <ewood> Heh
[09:44] <kditty> shes like 16
[09:44] <pussfeller> har
[09:44] <FoamY_LappY> whats the latest version of firefox?
[09:44] <kditty> here i am, ive never used linux until about a month ago
[09:44] <FoamY_LappY> !mozilla
[09:44] <ubotu> FoamY_LappY: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:44] <jock09> 1.501
[09:45] <ewood> I use Epiphany. I like how it adds bookmarks
[09:45] <FoamY_LappY> oh ok i thought it was like 1.7 or something lol
[09:45] <pussfeller> theres instructions on the wiki for how to upgrade
[09:45] <aroticoz> remanimg in terminal ? command?
[09:45] <aroticoz> *renaming
[09:45] <pussfeller> aroticoz: mv filename new_filename
[09:45] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:45] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add an app by the clock?
[09:46] <kditty> when im running the live cd, where do the files download to?
[09:46] <kditty> like when im online
[09:46] <jock09> foamy, mozilla and firefox are 2 different browsers
[09:46] <jock09> mozilla is the original mozilla.org browser suite
[09:46] <ripax> helllooooo
[09:46] <fabien> bye
[09:46] <ripax> wazzzup
[09:47] <chuckyp> yeah so i'm trying to put the logout applet tot he right of the clock any ideas?
[09:47] <ewood> Yeah.. Stop that!
[09:47] <kditty> lol
[09:48] <ewood> Yours have volume control up there?
[09:48] <ripax> aileen
[09:48] <ripax> hello
[09:48] <kditty> are there skins for ubuntu that you can instal?
[09:48] <Madpilot> kditty, lots
[09:48] <ewood> There are gnome themes..
[09:48] <Madpilot> !themes
[09:48] <ewood> So yeah
[09:48] <Madpilot> !tell kditty about themes
[09:49] <ewood> Even has a nice Arts manager app to help you download new ones.
[09:49] <kditty> hah
[09:49] <kditty> thats funny
[09:49] <kditty> ubotu, how clever
[09:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kditty
[09:50] <ripax> hahahhahahaa!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:50] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:50] <crazykiller> hi
[09:50] <ripax> KAKAKAAALKLksswkwk
[09:50] <ripax> hi!!!!!!
[09:51] <kditty> im about to do a full install, i just downloaded 5.10
[09:51] <kditty> im nervous i might mess something up though ;x
[09:51] <crazykiller> I am a new linux user
[09:51] <ewood> An existing system?
[09:52] <kditty> if i have xp already installed, will i need partition magic or bootmagic or anything like that?
[09:52] <kditty> yes ewood, existing system
[09:52] <ripax> hi!!!!!!!!!!
[09:52] <crazykiller> it is a little difficult for beginning!
[09:52] <kditty> im using the live cd right now.
[09:52] <sHaDe> hi ripax
[09:52] <ewood> What kind of space do you have available? My experience is more Mac-centric - don't know if you could resize a Windows partition to make room..
[09:52] <ripax> y did u say so?
[09:53] <kditty> seems decent, i know the setup for vector linux gave me a few problems
[09:53] <sHaDe> lol
[09:53] <ripax> hi!!!!
[09:53] <ripax> hello ppol
[09:53] <kditty> this computer has 20gigs, its old thats why i plan to instal ubuntu
[09:53] <crazykiller> anyone that uses Opera for browsing?
[09:53] <techubus> breezy installed flawlessly for me alongside my win2k install and set up dual booting in grub with no issues
[09:53] <Madpilot> crazykiller, I do
[09:54] <ewood> I say nuke Windoze and go all Ubuntu. Throw caution to the wind.
[09:54] <kditty> what is breezy?
[09:54] <crazykiller> i have a problem
[09:54] <techubus> breezy = ubuntu 5.10
[09:54] <ripax> hws lyf going on
[09:54] <kditty> well i use alot of apps that i need windows for
[09:54] <ewood> Well techubus, how did you find free space for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <techubus> hehe.  well I have 3 harddrives soo..
[09:54] <kditty> i only have around 4-5GB free on my system
[09:54] <ewood> I dunno kditty, unless you're talking games, there's a ton of good stuff out there..
[09:55] <Madpilot> ripax, this isn't a chat room, it's a support channel
[09:55] <Madpilot> crazykiller, unless you have more details than "I have a problem" you probably won't get any solutions to it :P
[09:55] <kditty> would 4GB be enough room to install?
[09:55] <kditty> install and run properly
[09:55] <ewood> Definitely a stretch.
[09:55] <kditty> i could free some up
[09:55] <ripax> hahhahahha
[09:55] <kditty> i just dont know where it all goes with xp...
[09:56] <crazykiller> i know, do u want to ask u here?
[09:56] <ewood> Best off just grabbing a second hard drive if at all possible.
[09:56] <Madpilot> kditty, 4Gb is tight - 5 might be doable, more is better. Ubuntu needs about 1.8 just for the basic install
[09:56] <kditty> well i hardly have ANYTHING on my computer, i deleted all of my media
[09:56] <ripax> ubuntu has low connection compare to windows xp
[09:56] <kditty> but somehow i have 16GB used space
[09:56] <ewood> I think my external HD deleted a bunch of my media for me..
[09:57] <ewood> Last I tried turning it on, it would only beep at me
[09:57] <techubus> it is possible to go into xp and resize the partition after you upgrade it from simple to dynamic
[09:57] <kditty> i would use an external, but i cant afford one at the moment and i dont want to hook something else up to this computer
[09:57] <ripax> i cant survive if I will continue using this kind of operating system
[09:57] <kditty> its coming straight out of the archives, this computer was purchased in 2001
[09:58] <Madpilot> crazykiller, if you've got an Opera on Ubuntu question, just ask it here...
[09:58] <ewood> kditty, your computer have internal space for a second hard drive? It'd make installing Ubuntu a lot more feasible.
[09:58] <kditty> 800mhz intel celron, 20gbhd, 256ram
[09:59] <kditty> thats all i got, no extra space either
[09:59] <ewood> Meh, buy a 10 gig HD or something.
[09:59] <techubus> so the windows partition is basically full right?  no room to shrink it?
[09:59] <ewood> Unless you find a bigger one really cheap
[09:59] <ripax> mailto:n=ktogias@ppp3-adsl-131.ath.forthnet.gr is not so common
[09:59] <kditty> ive got another computer with vector linux installed on it, i was thinking of pluging it in and installing a network card and connecting the two
[10:00] <ewood> That other computer mean much to you in one piece?
[10:00] <kditty> lol no
[10:00] <crazykiller> i downloaded the opera.deb file, and i install it by typing "sudo dpkg -i opera.deb"
[10:00] <kditty> a foot stool
[10:00] <ewood> Yank that vector Linux HD out of it and put it into your XP box.
[10:00] <kditty> i use it to keep my feet propped up sometimes
[10:00] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add an applet by the click "to the right" of the notification area?  There is no vacant space to click.
[10:00] <chuckyp> :(
[10:00] <ewood> There ya go - a spare hard drive just waiting to become your new Ubuntu drive.
[10:00] <Madpilot> crazykiller, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:00] <kditty> ewood, there isnt room for it in this case
[10:01] <crazykiller> ok
[10:01] <crazykiller> thanx
[10:01] <ewood> Ah, ok. That's something I was wondering about before.
[10:01] <Madpilot> chuckyp, add the applet somewhere else, then try moving it into it's final position
[10:01] <techubus> room?  just duct tape it to the inside of the chassi :p
[10:01] <EBAR> lol
[10:01] <ewood> Does your footrest have the space >:) Feel like a big project?
[10:01] <kditty> but say i put an ethernet card in this computer, and ran it to the card on the otherone...
[10:02] <ripax> not so...
[10:02] <kditty> could i just network?
[10:02] <techubus> you mean directly with a crossover cable or to a hub?
[10:02] <chuckyp> Madpilot, no I figure out the problem the clock and notificaiton area where locked so you couldn't move an applet into that area.
[10:02] <ewood> Network how? Boot from the other computer over the network on the Celeron?
[10:03] <kditty> vector doesnt even work on the computer im on right now, the monitor just flashes and gives me snow when it loads
[10:03] <ewood> Never heard of vector before tonight.
[10:03] <kditty> i mean use a cat5 cable and run it directly from one pc to the other
[10:03] <ewood> Got to be a cross-over cable for that - hopefully you know about that.
[10:03] <kditty> well your standard cable you use for a cable modem, i think its cat5 am i wrong?
[10:04] <ewood> Hm, maybe not then
[10:04] <kditty> ehh i wont even mess with it then
[10:04] <kditty> lol
[10:04] <techubus> yes cat5.  but it has to have special wiring, crossover
[10:04] <ewood> Got to have a couple of pins reversed at one end for doing crossover
[10:04] <kditty> too much for me right now
[10:04] <ewood> Yep, especially if you can't make your own CAT-5 cables
[10:04] <kditty> id rather just buy the new HD and keep my footstool compaq
[10:04] <ewood> Or go buy a crossover
[10:05] <ewood> If that one hard drive of yours wasn't so small, it'd be easier too
[10:05] <kditty> is there a tool on the livecd that i could run to see my partitions and free space?
[10:05] <kditty> on my harddrive
[10:05] <ewood> At least replace it with about 120 gigs and then make it a dual-boot, eh?
[10:06] <Tamon> Hi guyz
[10:06] <ewood> Hi Tamon
[10:06] <kditty> well ive decided that im not upgrading this computer at all, its just too old and outdated
[10:06] <kditty> too small to add anything
[10:06] <Tamon> i'm new to ubuntu and linux and i need help!
[10:07] <EBAR> 800mhz? Not that old.
[10:07] <thessem> Just upgrade everything, on a single day
[10:07] <kditty> around late 2000 early 2001 i baught it
[10:07] <EBAR> kditty: you could always try Damn Small Linux (DSL)
[10:07] <ewood> Maybe just plan on buying or building a replacement for your Celeron and putting Ubuntu onto the Celeron afterwards?
[10:07] <kditty> well the thing is that ubuntu is the only distro ive found to work with my video card
[10:08] <Ash-Fox__> 800mhz, I don't mean to be funny, but unless you're playing games or doing 3d rendering and such... Why would you need more?
[10:08] <Tamon> how to browse my hdd when i'm using a live cd?
[10:08] <ewood> Say, did you try Fedora Core 4?
[10:08] <EBAR> I agree with Ash-Fox. I've got more on less.
[10:09] <Ash-Fox__> I can say though, you should at least have 256MB ram (preferibly 512MB)
[10:09] <thessem> I remember those old Pentium adds, stating that you needed over 1ghz to surf the net properly
[10:09] <kditty> i have two more computers
[10:09] <thessem> how does that work?
[10:09] <[129-CarNagE] > Tamon: You have to mount your existing hard drives using "moung", see "man mount" for details...
[10:09] <ewood> I have a stack of old Macs..
[10:09] <kditty> one isnt very important, one is new
[10:09] <thefish> kditty: try running "df -h" from a console
[10:09] <ewood> But each one should at least boot up and have some use
[10:09] <Tamon> moung??
[10:09] <kditty> well when i watch movies on windows, it goes out of sync trying to process
[10:10] <jock09> !restricted
[10:10] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:10] <ewood> Xine has been doing that to me on my Linux system. I only just got it downloaded and compiled this evening
[10:10] <Ash-Fox__> kditty, there are a number of reasons why movies can get out of sync
[10:10] <thessem> One of them being a crap processor
[10:10] <ewood> Or a poorly supported processor
[10:11] <Ash-Fox__> (Most common reason I've seen on windows though was a divx codec issue)
[10:11] <thessem> Which are normally the cap ones, ewood
[10:11] <techubus> or a bloated windows dvd player
[10:11] <kditty> i do use divx
[10:11] <kditty> divx player
[10:11] <Ash-Fox__> That too
[10:11] <kditty> but it doesnt do it on my other pc
[10:12] <ewood> That's subjective - I don't consider my G4 CPU to be crap - it performa admirably with OS X - certainly more than enough to handle some video stream. Xine just doesn't work quite right on it for some reason.
[10:12] <kditty> and when its about to do it you can tell, because the computer will start working and you notice it
[10:12] <Angel_Dex> how do i flush my catche's and stuff?
[10:12] <latis> any1 knows how to get Audify2 PCMCIA support in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <latis> I cant get it to work
[10:12] <thessem> ewood, Ahhkay, I thought we were talking normal i386's here
[10:12] <latis> !pcmcia
[10:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, latis
[10:12] <ewood> Naw, just the underdog
[10:12] <Ash-Fox__> kditty, I'd reccommend you use VLC (videolan.org), anyway.. This a channel for help on Ubuntu Linux
[10:12] <thessem> I can understand mac's not being properly supported
[10:12] <kditty> so far, on unbuntu live cd my computer has only struggled because the cd drive is low, its running better from a cd-rom than windows does from my hard drive
[10:13] <kditty> im on ubuntu linux
[10:13] <latis> !audigy2
[10:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, latis
[10:13] <ewood> And my desire for good support led me to the Gentoo site, and I saw they offer PPC installation disc images for different PPC types.
[10:13] <kditty> i dont even know how we got on that topic
[10:13] <ewood> But I didn't have a torrent client installed back then. I do now, but heck, I'm tired to reinstalling my system
[10:13] <Angel_Dex> anyone? i wish to clean junk folders out and clean things like my icon catche
[10:14] <thessem> How would the ppc type differ?
[10:14] <ewood> G3, G4, etc
[10:14] <thessem> Don't they just have a normal "low" standard?
[10:14] <thessem> that they all should be compatible to?
[10:14] <kditty> if the live cd is working fine for me, does that mean that ubuntu supports all my devices? for example my wireless and video cards.
[10:15] <ewood> They have stage1, stage2, stage3 ISO images, and the stage2 and stage3 images were available in -g3 and -g4 and maybe even -g5 versions
[10:15] <DrZombie> Jamus, you in?
[10:15] <thessem> Yes I be
[10:15] <thessem> It's odd that Ubuntu doesn't do that then
[10:16] <ewood> Well yeah. I think Gentoo offers more specialised Linux installations than most. Fedora Core and Ubuntu tend to use just one PPC kernel for all systems though
[10:16] <hal> how do i download files with linux? Sory for such a simple question, i'm new.
[10:16] <thessem> firefox?
[10:16] <thessem> wget?
[10:16] <hal> i know it has to do with repositories
[10:16] <thessem> synaptic?
[10:16] <ewood> I expect the Gentoo G4 Linux would use Altivec quite a bit.
[10:16] <kditty> im going to reboot with the install cd in and check out my options
[10:16] <Madpilot> hal, use Synaptic - System menu -> Admin -> Synaptic
[10:16] <kditty> thanks for the help guys
[10:17] <DrZombie> Wow. Coming into this room using windows was like me walking into a gaybar without aids.
[10:17] <ewood> Lots of luck there kditty
[10:17] <kditty> who was using windows?
[10:17] <ewood> I resent that, DrZombie. It's the Windoze folk who are gay. Everyone knows THAT
[10:17] <Tamon> could you guyz tell me how to browse my hdd from a live CD?
[10:17] <ewood> j/k
[10:17] <Keyframe> if I've changed /etc/default/acpi-support, do I need to restart?
[10:17] <ewood> What does Ubuntu offer for browsing the hard drive?
[10:18] <DrZombie> ewood Well, I have never been able to get a whole project done on Windows without it assraping me, so I guess you are right
[10:18] <kditty> is it possible to browse your hard drive from a live cd?
[10:18] <thessem> I don't see why not
[10:18] <kditty> a windows format HD i mean
[10:18] <ewood> Really? I never do projects myself..
[10:18] <thessem> kditty, whats your filesystem?
[10:18] <thessem> fat32 or ntfs?
[10:18] <kditty> fat32 i think
[10:18] <Tamon> mine is fat32
[10:18] <kditty> whatever is standard for windows
[10:18] <Keyframe> you can both, but you need to mount by yourself
[10:19] <ewood> Should be possible..
[10:19] <techubus> ntfs is standard for windows xp
[10:19] <kditty> ok
[10:19] <ewood> Well kditty, Win XP supports both equally
[10:19] <kditty> then thats me
[10:19] <Tamon> could you please how do I mount a hdd?
[10:19] <kditty> the thing is that ive never really been givin the option to choose, i know nothing about it
[10:19] <ewood> ThuG-GirL - hey, a female Linux user. Yay
[10:19] <ewood> hehe
[10:19] <kditty> so i have no clue what i set it up as
[10:20] <velios> plz help how use gnome-btdownload?
[10:20] <thessem> Chances are ThuG-GirL isn't a girl, this being irc and all
[10:20] <ewood> Didn't install Win XP on that system yourself, kditty?
[10:20] <kditty> no girls on the internet, right?
[10:20] <thessem> exactly
[10:20] <kditty> yea i did install it
[10:20] <kditty> about 3 years ago, maybe 4
[10:21] <Keyframe> if I've changed /etc/default/acpi-support, do I need to restart?
[10:21] <kditty> i dont remember it asking me fat32 or ntfs, because i didnt start hearing about ntfs until i started researching linux
[10:21] <ewood> Well, when you pick your partition onto which Windows should be installed, it has a list of options not unlike Format using FAT32, Format using NTFS, Convert to NTFS, Leave partition unchanged
[10:22] <thessem> ewood, if kditty doesn't know, it is probably ntfs
[10:22] <thessem> thats the windows default
[10:22] <ewood> Yep..
[10:22] <ompaul> kditty, I have just joined the channel, fair guess XP ntfs win2k ntfs before that vfat
[10:22] <kditty> ok theres the thing, i baught it with win me, and installed xp over that, no partitions involved
[10:22] <DrZombie> There are girls on the internet
[10:22] <DrZombie> they are in jpeg format.
[10:22] <ewood> Ah
[10:22] <thessem> and mpg
[10:22] <ewood> FAT32 then
[10:23] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:23] <ubotu> [offtopic]  Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:23] <ewood> Because Win ME is too gay to support NTFS by a long shot
[10:23] <ompaul> !gay
[10:23] <kditty> lol
[10:23] <ompaul> !+gay
[10:23] <ubotu> I heard gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[10:23] <DrZombie> haha, speak of the devil
[10:23] <ewood> Yep, Win ME is one happy OS.....
[10:24] <kditty> worst one ive ever used in my life
[10:24] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add a system monitor to the desktop like some of the gnome-look people ahve doen?
[10:24] <aroticoz> how can I Search the hdd for a file :|
[10:24] <Tamon> anyone can tell me how do I mount a hdd?
[10:24] <wevex> whats a "built-in" variable?
[10:24] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp right click pannel>add to pannel>system monitor and right click it to config
[10:24] <kemik> !mount
[10:24] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:24] <aroticoz> how can I Search the hdd for a file?
[10:25] <kemik> aroticoz: whereis, locate, find
[10:25] <Fanskapet> aroticoz: locate file
[10:25] <aroticoz> from the terminal ?
[10:25] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, i'm talking about right on the desktop not on the panel.
[10:25] <Fanskapet> yes
[10:25] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp torsmo?
[10:25] <Terminus> chuckyp: you probably want gdesklets.
[10:26] <kditty> !windowsdrives
[10:26] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:26] <Angel_Dex> Terminus Gdesklets are buggy for me how bout you?
[10:26] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: buggy as hell too. i don't use it.
[10:26] <techubus> that is one useful bot
[10:26] <Angel_Dex> Terminus yeah id suggest torsmo then
[10:26] <Ash-Fox__> !pokemon
[10:26] <ubotu> Ash-Fox__: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:26] <ewood> Are gdesklets akin to widgets in Tiger?
[10:26] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: didn't know about torsmo. :)
[10:27] <Angel_Dex> Terminus not as fancy shmansy but atleast its not buggy
[10:27] <Ash-Fox__> ubotu, be happy you don't
[10:27] <ubotu> Ash-Fox__: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, yeah i'm looking at tormso and conky right now.  Anyone have any experience with them?
[10:27] <Tamon> !live cd
[10:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tamon
[10:27] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp me its not bad I stoped using it tho cuz i ,lost cuz my resources are more then enough to have to worry
[10:28] <kditty> but can you mount and access from ubuntu's live cd?
[10:28] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: hehe. :)
[10:28] <kditty> mount a windows drive i mean
[10:28] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, I know I just want it for the look.
[10:28] <techubus> I would think it would work the same but I've never used a live disc
[10:28] <ewood> I know that Ubuntu is always happy to mount up any Mac partitions it finds, even including my iPod
[10:29] <kditty> ok, im gonna try it
[10:29] <Angel_Dex> Terminus 384Mb of ram and 933mhz pIII and all i really do is surf the web
[10:29] <techubus> speaking of ipods.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to recogonize mine when its connected by firewire.  I haven't tried plugging it in to usb yet.
[10:30] <ewood> Mine is a USB 2 model.
[10:30] <ompaul> aroticoz, all in a terminal, which will find a  command on your path, whereis will locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command,(s)locate will find files that are known about since the last time the the locate database was created [partial matches]  (sudo updatedb to do it now), and find will find a file on your machine and takes many options, if I know a file should be in some directory / subdirectory of where I am I do this (find
[10:30] <ompaul> ./ -name foo)
[10:30] <ewood> Maybe Ubuntu isn't so good with Firewire just yet
[10:30] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: i wouldn't run gnome on those specs. :)
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp eh id say torsmo it may just be text and simple bars but it does the job
[10:30] <techubus> yeah, especially a firewire port on an audigy card
[10:30] <ewood> Hmm
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> Terminus Runs prefectly fine for me
[10:31] <Angel_Dex> use 200MB at the most
[10:31] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: cool. doesn't seem snappy enough for me though.
[10:31] <ewood> And you can get a little program called gtkpod to control the songs on your iPod
[10:31] <Angel_Dex> Terminus i ran Xpee on 300mhz ANYTHING is snappy now
[10:31] <ewood> hehe @ Xpee
[10:31] <Terminus> LOL!
[10:31] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, Think i'm going with conky still being activly developed
[10:31] <techubus> Ive got AmaroK already.  it looks great can't wait to see how it stacks up to itunes
[10:32] <techubus> just to tired to work it out right now.
[10:32] <chuckyp> and its in the repos
[10:32] <ewood> Xfce4 is a snappy interface
[10:32] <ewood> Though it's also pretty rustic.
[10:32] <ewood> Hmm
[10:32] <ewood> AmaroK - something I could download and compile?
[10:33] <techubus> you can grab it with apt
[10:33] <ewood> Not I..
[10:33] <ewood> Not using Ubuntu at the moment
[10:33] <ewood> But I'll go look for it online
[10:33] <techubus> its kde based if that matters to you.
[10:33] <ewood> That does.
[10:34] <ewood> I made a point of removing KDE from my system
[10:34] <Terminus> chuckyp: haven't tried it, but there's also gkrellm.
[10:34] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp torsmo is in the repos
[10:34] <Razor-X> Hmm... where can you get libtommath from?
[10:34] <kditty> /dev/hda1   *           7        2586    19504768+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[10:34] <techubus> I ran ubuntu just to learn then downloaded the kubuntu stuff and switched
[10:34] <kditty> thats what i got when i ran fdisk
[10:34] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp and you do know that you can install them both? i mean nothing wrong with having more hten one program
[10:35] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, yeah I know conky was in repos so just did that for now i'll try it out.
[10:35] <techubus> my system is kind of a bastard mix of gnome and kde apps.  hasn't caused me trouble. yet.
[10:36] <ewood> I must say - AmaroK looks very iTunes-ish indeed. Far more so than Rhythmbox
[10:36] <latis> I really need help on getting my audigy2 pcmcia card to work in ubuntu, can any1 help?
[10:37] <Angel_Dex> does gnome have a run comman interface?
[10:37] <techubus> it is.  it automatically builds a library database, burns cds, downloads lyrics, good playlist support, even displays cd art covers
[10:37] <ompaul> kditty, you can mount but you cant write
[10:37] <Ng> Angel_Dex: there used to be one in the menus, but if not you can add a command line panel applet
[10:38] <Angel_Dex> Ng ah so thats the same thing no?
[10:39] <Ng> Angel_Dex: pretty much, it's just there all the time instead of a menu item
[10:39] <Ng> and once dapper is out there's also the deskbar applet, which is very cool and hooks into lots of things
[10:40] <Angel_Dex> Ng shweet
[10:42] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, try Alt+F2
[10:42] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nuthin
[10:43] <Angel_Dex> say how do i configure conky and torsmo?
[10:43] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, you in Ubuntu w/ Gnome?
[10:43] <Angel_Dex> yesh
[10:43] <dragontamer> bugger, got banned from #wikipedia
[10:43] <Madpilot> alt f2 should bring up Gnome's Run Applications thing, Angel_Dex
[10:44] <hal> after i download something from synaptic, how can i instal it? I think i'm missing part of the puzzle here.
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> i got banned from #knoppix ^-^ Thoi never been there so idk how i coulda gotten banned it sucked when i startedusing knoppixtoo
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nope
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> ><
 where's the off button on that Mike guy  <-- that's all i said lol
[10:44] <techubus> alt f2 opens a run on both gnome and kde
[10:44] <hal> anyone have an answer for my newby question
[10:45] <hal> oic
[10:45] <Madpilot> hal, Synaptic automatically installs stuff when it downloads
[10:45] <dragontamer> i'm such a n00b at IRC lmao
[10:45] <hal> well i've been unsuccesful at finding them then
[10:45] <latis> I really need help on getting my audigy2 pcmcia card to work in ubuntu, can any1 help?
[10:45] <hal> after they're installed
[10:45] <Madpilot> hal, not everything appears in the menus. What're you looking for?
[10:46] <hal> well i installed a couple games
[10:46] <dragontamer> any starter IRC tips?
[10:46] <hal> they're not in the games folder
[10:46] <hal> sory im such a newb
[10:46] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[10:46] <Angel_Dex> dragontamer ummm use Xchat?
[10:47] <Madpilot> hal, which ones? Like I said, some stuff doesn't appear in the menus automatically
[10:47] <Angel_Dex> dragontamer Uhhhhh thats about it?
[10:47] <hal> 3d chess was one of them
[10:47] <Madpilot> hal, that doesn't have a menu entry. Hit Alt+F2 and type 3dchess
[10:48] <dragontamer> lmao
[10:48] <dragontamer> okie doke
[10:48] <dragontamer> gah, fuck
[10:48] <dragontamer> g2g
[10:48] <hal> there is no default action associated with this location
[10:48] <hal> ""
[10:48] <Madpilot> hal, which location?
[10:48] <hal> when i typed in 3dchess that is what it told me
[10:49] <latis> is ubuntu and kubuntu the same? just different windowsystem?
[10:49] <latis> I mean, same hardwaresupport etc etc
[10:49] <Madpilot> latis, yes, Ubuntu = Gnome, Kubuntu = KDE
[10:49] <latis> Madpilot, ok
[10:50] <latis> is it hard to install from a livecd?
[10:50] <hal> any advice?
[10:50] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot Hey little que does Linux/ubuntu build up junkfiles like windows? >< have to ask AND how do i flush my icon catche?
[10:50] <latis> and, where in ubuntu is the cd-recording software located? :S
[10:50] <Madpilot> hal, I'm not sure
[10:51] <Madpilot> latis, just stick a blank CD in your burner, it'll come up with a window
[10:51] <latis> Madpilot, ok
[10:51] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, you can run Linux for months and have no system slowdown. As for 'flushing your icon cache', I don't even know what that means. :P
[10:52] <latis> Madpilot, can I burn an ISO through that menu?
[10:52] <latis> since I have the isofile
[10:52] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nautilus saves icons and stuff from pics when you veiw um Thumbnails? idk what to call um but i wanna empty where it saved um
[10:52] <Fudge> latis: just right click on the iso and select burn to disc.
[10:52] <Madpilot> latis, no, actually. Just close that menu, find the ISO in your files, and right-click on it
[10:53] <Ng> Angel_Dex: ~/.thumbnails/
[10:53] <johnny> Hello ramkrsna
[10:53] <johnny> Hello everyone
[10:53] <Angel_Dex> Ng 358 thumbnails all of pictures no longer on my comp XD
[10:54] <johnny> Amaranth, hello
[10:54] <johnny> Amaranth, I solved it.... its a problem with permissions...
[10:54] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, just delete those, then - it should be cleared out automatically, but it isn't
[10:54] <Angel_Dex> mhms
[10:55] <Angel_Dex> i just hate leaving left overs
[10:56] <Angel_Dex> i really wanan keep my install nice and neat tho i have been testing things and stuff and im wondering is there anyting i have to do to refresh my systems life? (so use to windows)
[10:58] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot why the kick? @.@
[10:58] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, Linux doesn't clog up the way Windows does.
[10:58] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, for the away msg spam
[10:58] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot *runs to erase his away msg* >.>
[10:59] <RegeX> DCC SEND "HAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAHAX"
[10:59] <liable> may i suggest, that if you kick someone for an away message, that you say so in the kick? oterwise tey wont know why they were kicked.
[10:59] <Angel_Dex> wtf was that?
[10:59] <liable> stupid idiot
[10:59] <Madpilot> liable, have done a /msg
[11:00] <ompaul> an exploit
[11:00] <ompaul> !tel defendguin about exploit
[11:00] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules <-- 3rd rule down
[11:00] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[11:00] <liable> Madpilot: sweet :)
[11:01] <viviersf> lo selinium , mr head and shoulders
[11:02] <suppaman> hell
[11:02] <suppaman> hello
[11:02] <suppaman> !codecs
[11:02] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:03] <suppaman> ok I've read the repositories info, but I don't know what package I do need...
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell L|nu}{ about exploit
[11:03] <ompaul> Seveas, got them all with the bot
[11:03] <L|nu}{> thx!
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell cratel1  about exploit
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell  slvmchn  about exploit
[11:04] <Seveas> suppaman, w32codecs
[11:04] <L|nu}{> brb
[11:04] <Seveas> !tell FatDarrel  about exploit
[11:04] <ompaul> Seveas, any (easy) way ubugtu could catch the sign off names and then when the user comes back say !exploit?
[11:04] <suppaman> Seveas: thanks
[11:05] <Seveas> ompaul, not an easy way but maybe doable
[11:05] <suppaman> !easysource
[11:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:06] <suppaman> Seveas: the point is easysource has info for Breezy or Hoary, I'm on Dapper..
[11:06] <Angel_Dex> i got my source list from tony
[11:06] <Angel_Dex> then i added on US repos
[11:06] <suppaman> Seveas: but when I asked in #ubuntu+1 I was told to ask here
[11:06] <Seveas> suppaman, grab w32codecs from seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas and install with dpkg -i
[11:07] <suppaman> ok
[11:07] <suppaman> I'll make first another try
[11:10] <chuckyp> suppaman, what do you need?
[11:11] <suppaman> chuckyp: to play avis
[11:11] <chuckyp> suppaman, http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[11:11] <suppaman> I've just followed the last ubotu links, I'm installing by hand
[11:11] <suppaman> yea that one
[11:11] <suppaman> thanks
[11:12] <chuckyp> suppaman, yeah dl the deb and dpkg -i it.
[11:13] <suppaman> one more question: is there a way to have Alt+RightButton resize windows instead of middle button in gnome ?
[11:13] <suppaman> I feel it unconfortable
[11:13] <Eddiet> Anyone know how i can stop apache2 treating url directorys as case sensetive?
[11:14] <chuckyp> Eddiet, I can't think of a way to do it.  Everything is case sensitify
[11:15] <Madpilot> Eddiet, try #apache, maybe - but I agree with chuckyp, I don't think it's possible
[11:15] <Eddiet> k was a long shot anyway
[11:16] <chuckyp> Madpilot, I found it.
[11:16] <Madpilot> chuckyp, found what?
[11:16] <Angel_Dex> anyone here use pclos?
[11:16] <chuckyp> Madpilot, if you load module speling_module
[11:17] <chuckyp> !paste
[11:17] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:17] <Madpilot> chuckyp, in apache, you mean?
[11:17] <chuckyp> Madpilot, yeah in your config. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9897
[11:18] <Angel_Dex> i just installed PClos on another computer and im pretty amazed at it THO i still use ubuntu but im not finding any reasons to stay with ubuntu anyone wish to convince me? XP
[11:18] <Madpilot> chuckyp, interesting
[11:19] <Gomez> #debian-it
[11:20] <suppaman> it's a mess, now it says OpenDivX is not handled..
[11:20] <chuckyp> suppaman, what are you trying to do play a divx movie?
[11:20] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, 17000 packages against 4800? to be honest it is your own call, if you like their community again that is your call
[11:21] <Zero_Day> ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of  all ages, wasup in ubuntu land?
[11:21] <suppaman> chuckyp: yes
[11:21] <ablomen> Zero_Day: well not much realy ;)
[11:22] <Healot> for totem to play divx/xvid - install "gstreamer0.8-xvid" package
[11:22] <Angel_Dex> ompaul Well the thing is i noticed PClos comes jam packed and has like evry extenshon preinstalled but it seems way to windowsish
[11:22] <chuckyp> suppaman, I just realized I can't play opendivx either. I beilieve I can play normal divx though
[11:22] <suppaman> Healot: but I've just installed totem-xine as told in http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[11:23] <Healot> for totem to play divx/xvid - install "gstreamer0.8-xvid" package
[11:23] <Healot> not JUST totem...
[11:23] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, it is your choice, I am not going to debate it with you, and will point out to you that you can debate in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <suppaman> Healot: and other .avis?
[11:24] <Angel_Dex> ompaul alright manythanks THO i think you made a point with the Repos many thanks
[11:24] <Healot> i supposed XVid is compatible with all the OpenAVI format out there
[11:24] <chuckyp> suppaman, yeah if you install the gstreamer plugins you should be good.  If your in dapper you need good bad ugly
[11:25] <_sp> whats the vista backdoor port number ?
[11:25] <vincenz> How close is the new ubuntu to being released?
[11:25] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:25] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:26] <Healot> hoho, that bot answers in uncertainty
[11:28] <Healot> less than 1 month vincenz
[11:28] <vincenz> thx
[11:28] <vincenz> can't wait
[11:28] <ompaul> Healot, not any more :-)
[11:28] <suppaman> Healot: can't find gstreamer0.8-xvid
[11:28] <Hobbsee> Healot: really less than one month?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> wow
[11:29] <Healot> suppaman, it's on the "universe" repos
[11:29] <Healot> !tell suppaman about repos
[11:29] <ompaul> Hobbsee, get off IRC and get coding :-) save the world!
[11:29] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:29] <Hobbsee> maybe i should wait a month?
[11:29] <ompaul> Hobbsee, you like pressure?
[11:29] <narzy> doesn't everyone?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> hehe not particularly
[11:29] <Hobbsee> depends
[11:30] <scanwinder> how do i change the contrast when viewing a pdf file? it seems to be opening it with evince by default and i cant find any options for changing contrast......
[11:34] <aroticoz> can anyone here help me with a problem with Maya 7.0 ?
[11:35] <lpfansether> anyone able to help a newb set up his Ubuntu with his router?
[11:36] <lpfansether> i'm as new as it gets when it comes to ubuntu
[11:36] <sven_> I'm getting a wierd output when i issue the "df command" I have a partition mounted to /home wich only contains 311mb, the partition is 16 GB and with only 311mb filled it states in df that its 80% filled
[11:36] <lpfansether>  /linux
[11:36] <suppaman> ok now Totem say it cannot de-mux the stream
[11:36] <suppaman> I'm off this for now,  bye
[11:37] <lpfansether> I activate the devices and set them up but can never get them to conenct to the router
[11:38] <lpfansether> i'm on a windows computer chatting and the one running ubuntu is a laptop I have with me
[11:38] <sven_> lpfansether: doesnt your router issues an dhcp packet to the pc?
[11:38] <lpfansether> yes but it won't issue one to the laptop
[11:38] <sven_> then maybe its the network card thats not installed?
[11:39] <sven_> what does ifconfig says
[11:39] <lpfansether> i'm completely new to linux and about as dumb as it gets
[11:39] <lpfansether> what is ifconfig
[11:39] <Healot> it's the mother of all networking configuration tools :)
[11:39] <cyphase> woohoo!
[11:40] <sven_> Healot:  ;)
[11:40] <cyphase> i'm almost drooling :P
[11:40] <Healot> really, at least to me...
[11:40] <sven_> isnt that ping
[11:40] <lpfansether> all i've been trying to do is adjust the network settings
[11:41] <lpfansether> it shows a wireless connection an ethernet connection and a modem connection
[11:41] <lpfansether> sorry for my ignorance
[11:41] <sven_> lpfansether: open a console lpfansether
[11:42] <sven_> lpfansether: and type > ifconfig
[11:42] <lpfansether> sorry how do I get to the console?
[11:42] <Healot> buy one... :)
[11:42] <sven_> you go to the place where your playstation is
[11:42] <lpfansether> :-P
[11:42] <Healot> sorry, Applications - > Accessories -> Terminal
[11:43] <lpfansether> ok thanks
[11:43] <lpfansether> yeah I know i'm linux-retarded
[11:43] <sven_> like everyone in the beginning
[11:43] <lpfansether> what am I looking for in ifconfig
[11:43] <sven_> eth0
[11:44] <sven_> check out the inet addr field what does it states
[11:44] <ubuntu> slm
[11:44] <purpleidea> would anyone be able to point me in the right direction? sound from soundcard makes a bit of a crackling noise... brand new laptop, i believe the soundcard is supposed to be supported, works fine in windows (although getting rid of it) and want to know what direction i should take to get my system 110%
[11:45] <aroticoz> can anyone here help me with a problem with Maya 7.0 ?
[11:45] <anakronisme> purpleidea, try playing around with ALSA, ESD etc. in the sound preferences
[11:45] <anakronisme> might work, might not work
[11:45] <lpfansether> inet6 addr: fe80::2d059ff:fe49:3eb2/64 scope:Link
[11:45] <Healot> Maya 7.0, this is actually Ubuntu distro help channel...
[11:45] <Ekumba> need help!!!have burned a dvd with dvd baker.but now can't play the files.it says:No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Snowboard%20Halfpipe%20-%20Torino%202006%20-%20Qualification%20%26%20Finale.avi"Totem konnte burn:///Snowboard Halfpipe - Torino 2006 - Qualification & Finale.avi nicht wiedergeben.
[11:46] <purpleidea> be more specific? which sound preferences?
[11:46] <Healot> is your problem ubuntu related? aroticoz ?
[11:46] <Ekumba> please help
[11:46] <aroticoz> yes
[11:46] <Healot> well... tell exactly your problem, someone might help
[11:46] <dilber> slm
[11:46] <dilber> tukish??
[11:46] <dilber> turkish??
[11:47] <Healot> no turkiye, dilber, english please...
[11:47] <aroticoz> well I ahve installed Maya 7.0 according to the HOWTO on the forums, and when i run it says "The application cannot find it's resourse file. Maya needs it to continue"
[11:47] <dilber> ok
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dilber about tk
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[11:47] <Ekumba> need help!!!have burned a dvd with dvd baker.but now i can't play the files.it says:No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Snowboard%20Halfpipe%20-%20Torino%202006%20-%20Qualification%20%26%20Finale.avi    "Totem konnte burn:///Snowboard Halfpipe - Torino 2006 - Qualification & Finale.avi nicht wiedergeben.
[11:48] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> what application are you trying to play the file in?
[11:48] <Healot> Ekumba, your Totem has no appropriate plugin to play that AVI file...
[11:48] <Ekumba> doesn't matter.totem,vlc.both don't play it
[11:48] <Ekumba> but they play it when it is on the drive
[11:49] <Healot> install the plugins first, "zulaile mabni 	
[11:49] <Healot> to me
[11:49] <Healot> 	 More options	  11:48 am (6 hours ago)
[11:49] <Healot> >Waalaikumsalam wrt.
[11:49] <Healot> Untuk makluman, penyertaan Programming Quest 2006 kali ini hanya dibuka
[11:49] <Healot> untuk pelajar CS110 & CS230 shj. W/bagaimana pun kita akan menganjurkan
[11:49] <Healot> satu lagi Programming Competition peringkat UiTM pada bulan Ogos 2006
[11:49] <Healot> nanti(tentative) yang mana penyertaan adalah dibuka kepada semua pelajar
[11:49] <Healot> UiTM.
[11:49] <Healot> Terima kasih.
[11:49] <Healot> -Pn Zulaile"
[11:49] <Healot> ahhh sorry about that
[11:49] <lpfansether> also eth1  says inet6 addr: fe80::a0046ff:fe73"lae2/64 Scope:Link
[11:50] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> the burn:// prefix on your file might be the problem. try navigating to the file in nautilus and then opening it from there.
[11:50] <purpleidea> anyone? help with crackling sound? even just send me where to go figure it out myself... not sure what to do!
[11:50] <Ekumba> i tried it from nautilus,but it still doesn't open.vlc doesn't make it
[11:51] <Ekumba> when i copy the files to the drive it play them
[11:51] <sven_> lpfansether: are you sure everything is well connected, and your dhcp is working fine
[11:51] <lpfansether> yeah the DHCP is running the computer i'm on
[11:52] <lpfansether> but the computer I'm on is windows based
[11:52] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> okay, is the file you're trying to play in your home directory?
[11:52] <sven_> your subnet isnt too small or smth
[11:52] <Ekumba> again :No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Burton%202004%20Promo%20Video%20-%20The%20Process%20-%20Snowboard%20(38%20Min).mpg"
[11:52] <lpfansether> theres enough of a range of IP's for it to assign
[11:52] <Ekumba> yes it its
[11:52] <sven_> then it has to be smth with the network card
[11:52] <sven_> there is a hardware test included
[11:52] <Ekumba> do i have to delete them from my home before it plays the dvd with the same files?
[11:53] <lpfansether> hmmm
[11:53] <lpfansether> It's a sony vaio laptop should I try throwing in the sony CD to install drivers?
[11:53] <sven_> application > system tools > hw thing
[11:53] <sven_> no
[11:53] <thegladiator> hi i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:53] <sven_> there wont be any linux drivers included I'm affraid
[11:53] <GnarusLeo> Does anyone know why XMMS gives so scrambled sound when playing mp3s? Should I change plugin or something?
[11:53] <Healot> lpfansether, well, not if you still want to use Windows or ndiswrapper
[11:53] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> okay, then in totem goto the file menu, open, then goto your home directory and open the file from there. Totem is most likely trying to open the file from the cd burner object in the gnome vfs system instead of trying to open the file from your home directory.
[11:53] <lpfansether> didn't think so
[11:54] <sven_> do again that ifconfig command and look for a MAC adress, that way we can verify if he sees the card or not
[11:54] <sven_> but try and execute that hardware finder
[11:54] <ramza3> hello
[11:54] <lpfansether> i'm running ubuntu 5.10 on the gnome interface
[11:54] <AtaTurk> hi i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:54] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, see aroung in preferences , right click in xmms and click on preferences
[11:55] <lpfansether> idk if that makes any difference to you guys
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, what do I do there?
[11:55] <sven_> lpfansether: same here
[11:55] <ramza3> Wireless Question: I want to enable my thinkpad laptop for a wireless connection.  First, will most modern wireless cards work?  Like the belkin serious?
[11:55] <sven_> ramza3: running the belkin's works fine under ndiswrap
[11:55] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, what is your output plugin ?
[11:56] <Healot> AtaTurk, :)
[11:56] <J_element> i need help sharing internet connection from eth0 to eth1 ! or what is called ip forwarding
[11:56] <AtaTurk> Healot, :)
[11:56] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, Disk Writer
[11:56] <J_element> whats the command for that
[11:56] <lpfansether> app > system tools > only things listed are that are close to HW thing are config editor and system monitor
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell ramza3 about wireless
[11:56] <Langly> my old p233 laptop runs wifi just fine, if you have a new enough pcmcia the cardbus cards fur you are fine
[11:56] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, try chanhing it to OSS ?
[11:56] <Langly> errm fur == fit
[11:56] <Healot> J_element, you want to do Ethernet bridging?
[11:56] <lpfansether> ack oh and device database
[11:56] <sven_> lpfansether: Ubuntu hardwaredb or smth
[11:56] <ramza3> Hobbsee: nice, thanks
[11:56] <sven_> lpfansether: I'm using the freaky deaky dutch version :p
[11:57] <Healot> yeah, how the hell to do network bridging in Linux?
[11:57] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, the last option OSS driver m it requires lioss.so , it must be there in your system
[11:57] <Healot> well, I think can simply forward all the packet from one eth to another?
[11:57] <lpfansether> doing the network test now
[11:57] <sven_> I'm getting a wierd output when i issue the "df command" I have a partition mounted to /home wich only contains 311mb, the partition is 16 GB and with only 311mb filled it states in df that its 80% filled
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, Now i says: "Couldnt open audio", check that: "You soundcard is configured properly, not another program is using the device" and so on
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> but suddenly it worked ... had to press like 10 songs first
[11:58] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, is it working now ?
[11:58] <Neko_Freak> oh sweet people are awake
[11:58] <aroticoz> well I ahve installed Maya 7.0 according to the HOWTO on the forums, and when i run it says "The application cannot find it's resourse file. Maya needs it to continue"
[11:58] <J_element> Healot,  i want to share the internet connection from eth0 to eth1
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, I think so :) Not sure though .. thanks alot!
[11:58] <AtaTurk> its 4:20 PM  here in India
[11:59] <Healot> yeah, I know, J_element, unfortunately, I can't figure that out... are you familiar with IPtable?
[11:59] <AtaTurk>  sorry for the repeat but  i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:59] <Healot> well, on way you can do that using forwarding using IPtable...
[11:59] <Neko_Freak> How do i install tar.bz2 files from desktop
[12:00] <_sp> do you think .net adresses are fishing sites ?
[12:00] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, what is it that you are trying to install ?
[12:00] <Neko_Freak> Wine and Azureus
[12:00] <Sp4rKy> anyone know if i could i play to Trackmania with cvscedega
[12:00] <Sp4rKy> ?
[12:00] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak,  if it is azuereus , then you have to extract the files , bz2 is a comperssed format
[12:01] <J_element> healot , yeah a bit
[12:01] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, no, its still very scrambled ..
[12:01] <Healot> do you know how to forward packet from one if to another, J_element, i think you can do something like that to enable share
[12:01] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: why use azureus if you got wine? try mutorrent, it's so much more lightweight
[12:01] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, after extracting the files (much like what you do with zip files in windows) , you will see a jar file , which is a java source code , which can be run using JAVA alone and it needs sun's java
[12:01] <J_element> yeah that
[12:02] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, sounds exacly like a bad FM-signal ..
[12:02] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, hey in ht eoutput lugin also try ALsa
[12:02] <GnarusLeo> ok
[12:03] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, and in the input plugins make sure you have MPEG 1/2/3 support also
[12:03] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: sudo apt-get install wine should work fine, from there just find ~/.wine/drive_c   and put the mutorrent exe in there. it is a delicious alternative to all the Azureus Java hell you may encounter
[12:03] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, do you use u torrent under wine ? i like azureues excpet for its mem hog
[12:03] <cello_rasp> actually you can run a ny win exe on wine just by rightclicking it and running the exe
[12:04] <cello_rasp> AtaTurk: it runs like a dream
[12:04] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, thats great .doesnt wine occupy mem just like azuerus ?
[12:04] <cello_rasp> I would run mutorrent if wine on debian stable wasnt a peice of rubbish
[12:04] <AtaTurk> i know u torrent is low on mem
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, did, checked everything ... still scrambled
[12:05] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, did you try any other player ?
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> dont think I have another player that playes mp3
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> but let me check
[12:05] <cello_rasp> wine is just a compatibility layer. mutorrent is awesome, azureus is great b/c it is crossplatform but they both offer the same amount of stuff you will need. Az offers *too many* things TBH
[12:06] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, why dont try installing amarok ? or perhaps there is ryhtom box by default in gnome
[12:06] <FoamY_LappY> !sources
[12:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:06] <Ekumba> lol,now i have restarted ubuntu and the dvd which a have burnen is empty?why?
[12:07] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, ever felt that azureus is greedier in the sense it gets good data rate even if the source is scarce ?
[12:07] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: what the model ID?
[12:07] <Ekumba> how can i burn a dvd with files,that are able to play and don't give a error message and which are playabe at winxp?
[12:07] <cello_rasp> AtaTurk: I haven't check that out
[12:08] <AtaTurk> ok i shall check out u torrent myself
[12:08] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: How do I find the wine install? errr... ~/.wine/drive_c?
[12:08] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, did you install wine ?
[12:08] <lpfansether> Model ID for what?
[12:08] <Neko_Freak> yes
[12:09] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, in ubuntu , you  can use apt-get to install wine , once everything is done , you will get a folder like ~/.wine/drive_c which is a psedo fs that imitates windows
[12:09] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: yes
[12:09] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak, wine is a load of libs installed elsewhere. for compatibility it creates a windows-like file directory, so you can even install programs in your user account under wine.
[12:09] <AtaTurk> you can just install anything and everything by dfefault goes into that drive_c directory
[12:10] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: the vaio laptop. there can be compatibility issues, tell me the laptop model number and I can check it out for you
[12:10] <AtaTurk> so in short when a prog asku for installation path ...it will asy c:\prog files\ etc which means in effect i wine it points to that ./wine/drive_c
[12:10] <Ekumba> so,the dvd i burned is somehow burned but i can still brun some files,why?
[12:10] <Ekumba> and why don't i see any of teh files i have burned?
[12:10] <Neko_Freak> so there is no wine icon?
[12:11] <Neko_Freak> that is installed?
[12:11] <cello_rasp> alternatively you can run windows programs from ANY folder :)
[12:11] <AtaTurk> no wine icon
[12:11] <Neko_Freak> k
[12:11] <AtaTurk> you can create a launcher if you wish
[12:12] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: the coll thing is that installation under wine will cause any icon-lanuching shortcuts to your gnome desktop, you can launch them from there if you wish :)
[12:12] <AtaTurk> cool* :/
[12:12] <cello_rasp> heh
[12:12] <Ekumba> please help
[12:12] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp,   i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[12:13] <cyne> how do i create an unrar openwith command in the menus of File Browser to unrar ? i have a command unrar-free installed
[12:13] <cello_rasp> Ekumba, maybe it is a DVD-rw
[12:13] <cello_rasp> cyne: archive-manager will handle that?
[12:14] <lpfansether> cello_rasp: PCG GRS100
[12:14] <cyne> cello_rasp, apparently not
[12:14] <yonib> whois yonib
[12:14] <AtaTurk> afaik some rar will not be handled by arch manager
[12:14] <AtaTurk> i dont know much about what you asked though
[12:14] <cello_rasp> cyne: well, then there are g-scripts.sourceforge.net. under archiving. there is a nautilus script for extracting or compressing all kinds of stuff :)
[12:15] <cyne> thanks! Nautilus is "File Browser" ?
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[12:15] <AtaTurk> yes like windows explorer and kde's knqueror
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> konqueror
[12:16] <cyne> thanks!
[12:16] <cello_rasp> although, it is a simple matter to tell nautilus to open certain types with certain programs every time
[12:17] <cello_rasp> "open with other application"
[12:17] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok, I have installed amarok (looks great btw!), but it says that the engine will not play mp3's ... check you config engine
[12:17] <Draconicus> Ubuntu doesn't seem to know how to use my ethernet card. I put it in after installing Ubuntu, so it wasn't automatically configured. How do I get it to work?
[12:17] <cello_rasp> i really need to clean up my file associations in fact, some types have at least 10 instances of the same program in the context menu
[12:18] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: you will be just fine :)
[12:18] <ramza3> belkin wireless card, F5D7011 hmm hope that works
[12:18] <lpfansether> it works ok?
[12:18] <cello_rasp> ndiswrapper is great with even the cheapest of wireless cards
[12:18] <Ekumba> no,it isn't.it is a normal dvd
[12:18] <lpfansether> how do I get ndiswrapper to work?
[12:18] <lpfansether> is that seperate?
[12:19] <lpfansether> or is it preinstalled on 5.10
[12:19] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, i am almost a noob but lets see if I can help :) , go to setting -> configure amarok
[12:19] <cello_rasp> preinstalled :)
[12:19] <Ekumba> but,what can i do now?i have bruned the files i think.but i can see oder access any of them.i used gbaker.please help
[12:19] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok :)
[12:19] <Hobbsee> !tell lpfansether about ndiswrapper
[12:19] <ramza3> does it matter if it is 802.11b or g
[12:19] <cello_rasp> ramza3 nope!
[12:19] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, in that chose "engines" and tell me that you see , did you install gstreamer ?
[12:19] <ramza3> cello_rasp, I am being silly arent I
[12:20] <cello_rasp> Ekumba: i am having similar problems with DVDs.. they say they will fix gnomebaker with the next release
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> yes, but it was gstreamer who wouldnt play mp3 ... its the only engine Ive got
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk
[12:20] <cello_rasp> ramza3 it's always good to be sure :)
[12:20] <Healot> ramza3, no...
[12:20] <ramza3> thank you, my $40 is on the line here
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, yes tel me
[12:21] <cello_rasp> the chipsets for nearly all current wireless cards are incredibly generic, there are only 2 or 3 types
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, then do this install totem-xine
[12:21] <ramza3> well it looks like I am going with the Belkin(bestbuy) F5D7010, unless anybody else says otherwise
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, okey?
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, totem-xine is a nice one
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> ok
[12:21] <ramza3> cello_rasp, that is probably true
[12:22] <Ekumba> cello_rasp:but how can i then burn the files?with which program?
[12:22] <Healot> before purchasing hardware... you should check out distro/kernel specific supported hardware
[12:22] <ramza3> you would think hardware folks would start supporting linux flat out.  Who heard of engineers programming on win32
[12:22] <Healot> you should know that not all manufacturers are trying to support GNU/Linux :(
[12:22] <latis> Its bad that I cant get my Audigy2 PCMCIA to work under ubuntu
[12:22] <Draconicus> What do I need to do to make my ethernet controller work?!
[12:22] <ramza3> Healot: I did
[12:23] <latis> its not even lighted up when I insert into the pcmcia slot :(
[12:23] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: with Wine can I put in the install disks for say, Warcraft 3 and it will run it?
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, then what?
[12:23] <ramza3> latis: what type of latopt
[12:23] <cello_rasp> Ekumba: if you rightlick or mount the blank disk, a bunring interface shouild appear.
[12:23] <latis> ramza3, a clevo
[12:23] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, now just quit amarok and restart it
[12:23] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, then go back to engines section and see if you  have any other engine , you shud see xine now
[12:23] <ramza3> latis: what type of pcmcia card
[12:24] <latis> ramza3, Audigy2 ZS
[12:24] <ramza3> latis: oh, I thought you said ethernet card, sorry, I am network only, no sound
[12:24] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, unlikely dude ,since it might require direct X and all those things are not installed ...it needs heavy configuration ,i dont much about that though
[12:24] <cello_rasp> I must say that Belkin aren't my first choice of wireless tech anymore since I couldn't full "g" out of my router
[12:24] <kofo> /server irc.waixcentral.net
[12:25] <Ekumba> the other,burned disk isn't usefulm,i need another,right?
[12:25] <cello_rasp> my sweex wireess card wouldnt get any more than 802.11b, even under windows drivers
[12:25] <ramza3> cello_rasp, it is the cheapest and bestbuy is 4 miles awayt
[12:25] <latis> ramza3, ok. but how can I check if the pcmcia slot is detected at all?
[12:25] <cello_rasp> latis: system>administrator>device manager
[12:25] <FoamY_LappY> how do i get firefox 1.0.7?
[12:25] <ramza3> latis: normally the slot will work, I bet it is a driver issue
[12:26] <Healot> modprobe usbserial
[12:26] <ubrox> hi, how do i install PHP's PEAR in ubuntu, is there a guide ?
[12:26] <latis> I think I should go for some other distro... yesterday my ATI card worked.. and after a reboot its back to MESA again..
[12:26] <ubrox> latis: and you think in other distro it wont happen ?
[12:26] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok totem-xine is installed .. should I try to set amarok to use that one instead?
[12:27] <latis> I read somewhere that ubuntu sets it back
[12:27] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, correct
[12:27] <ramza3> latis: ubuntu is the sh@t
[12:27] <cello_rasp> latis: why not back up your home directory and reinstall ubuntu? i find that helps whenever my installation gets messed up :)
[12:27] <ubrox> hi, how do i install PHP's PEAR in ubuntu, is there a guide ?
[12:27] <latis> ramza3, how come nothing on my laptop works then? Its cutting edge technology
[12:27] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, and autodect output plugin
[12:27] <ramza3> latis: talk to  Linus
[12:28] <latis> ramza3, and why is the newest kernel just 2.6.12 ?
[12:28] <cello_rasp> latis: i think you answered your own question with that last line
[12:28] <ramza3> latis: hehe, yep I am on 2.4 for life
[12:28] <cello_rasp> ramza3 gb2 #debian
[12:28] <thefish> ubrox: apt-get install php4-pear
[12:28] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, I can only find gstreamer in the engine option :(
[12:28] <ramza3> cello_rasp, I was gentoo
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> latis: so what if the latest kernel is just 2.6.12? you can always grab the latest vanilla one from kernel.org and make it yourself
[12:29] <cello_rasp> heh
[12:29] <cello_rasp> goin shoppin
[12:29] <latis> hatake_kakashi, "just" make it myself..
[12:29] <ramza3> cello_rasp, actually, I still think gentoo was good for latest and greatest
[12:29] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, hmmm...let me search in synaptic
[12:29] <Healot> you mean the latest official kernel release? or the stable ubuntu's?
[12:30] <ubrox> i keep having problem with the package xfce4-mixer in the synpatic manager, how do i fix it ?
[12:30] <ramza3> Healot: just installing the latest and greatest code bases
[12:30] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, sorru you have to installl am,arok-xine package
[12:30] <GnarusLeo> ok :)
[12:30] <ubrox> and why does php4-pear want to install php5-common/cli ?
[12:30] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, you shud use  synaptic , type amarok and install all that you see out there :)
[12:31] <GnarusLeo> Il will, thanks again
[12:31] <lpfansether> thanks for your help guys
[12:31] <ubrox> thefish, how do i make it not install php5 for php4-pear?
[12:31] <thefish> ubrox: there is also php-pear, maybe its that
[12:32] <ubrox> and what do i do regarding xfce4-mixer warning i keep getting
[12:32] <ubrox> something in the likes i need to manaually installi t ?
[12:32] <GnarusLeo> What do you people use for burning mp3-->audio cd's ?
[12:33] <ubrox> k3b supports it, no ?
[12:33] <AtaTurk> k3b is a good burning program
[12:33] <ubrox> k3b is good for all :)
[12:33] <GnarusLeo> thanks again :)
[12:35] <ubrox> php-pear wants php5 as well
[12:35] <ubrox> and so does php4-pear...
[12:35] <ubrox> what can i do ?
[12:37] <ubrox> blah...
[12:37] <ubrox> very annoying
[12:38] <tucoz> Hello, I wonder how to search for a specific program within some package in ubuntu.
[12:38] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can make directories owned by 'apache' writable to regular users?
[12:38] <AtaTurk> tucoz, you can type it and search in synaptic , if thats what you mean
[12:39] <tucoz> AtaTurk, ok. I'll try that.
[12:39] <ubrox> foxpaul: chmod o+w ?
[12:39] <thefish> foxpaul: chmod 666 the dir, or make it owned by www-data.users
[12:39] <foxpaul> ubrox: i'll have a go, ta
[12:40] <ubrox> no php users here?!?
[12:40] <sysusr> I am
[12:40] <ubrox> no php-pear users ? :)
[12:41] <ubrox> do you use php4-pear?
[12:41] <sysusr> oh no
[12:41] <sysusr> sorry
[12:41] <ubrox> blah..
[12:41] <ubrox> i'll write my own DB layer at this rate
[12:41] <tucoz> AtaTurk, what I am looking for is for instance a way to search for the programs within a package. Like now, I need to find pcftobdf but I cannot find that by using synaptic or apt-cache search
[12:42] <sysusr> have you got any good tutorials for installing php5 on ubuntu
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> AMAROK was great! Best soundplayer ive seen so far
[12:42] <AtaTurk> oh , I am not sure but I think using apt you can display that
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> Love at first sight :)
[12:42] <AtaTurk> but still not sure
[12:42] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, lol , is it working ?
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> yes AtaTurk, it works great!
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> ty
[12:42] <sysusr> mysql is all screwed up
[12:43] <AtaTurk> woah cool :) pleasure ...you are one of the luckiest :/
[12:43] <Ekumba> cello_rasp:it takes 44 min to brun the dvd??h?why
[12:43] <AtaTurk> freecycle the DVD and buy new one Ekumba :) ?
[12:43] <ubrox> sysusr, why?
[12:44] <foxpaul> is there a way I can see the permissions number from an ls command? i can only see drwrws--x for example
[12:44] <sysusr> ubrox it doesn't see mysql_connect()
[12:45] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, amarok is cool , but I hate the load time , xmms works in a jiffy
[12:45] <AtaTurk> but if amarok is loaded then thats not a problem
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> I usually keep it loaded for all time ..
[12:46] <sysusr> ubrox, mysql is installed and so is php5 but for some reason php does not recognise the mysql_connect() function
[12:46] <AtaTurk> is it posible that I make set soem script for zxchat that identifies me once I connect to freenode ?
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> but yes, allways used xmms ... but programs like amarok are great when you library is getting un-organized and big too fast
[12:46] <ubrox> sysusr, maybe you need to install some php mysql addition ?
[12:47] <AtaTurk> true library organisation is impressive in amarok , xmms has lot to impreove on that
[12:47] <GnarusLeo> agreed
[12:47] <thefish> sysusr: you need to install php5-mysql
[12:47] <AtaTurk> hwo do I make myself identified when I  connect to freenoe using IRC ?
[12:47] <AtaTurk> i';; have to type /msg nickserve asdsd all the time
[12:47] <Hobbsee> AtaTurk: which client do you use?
[12:48] <AtaTurk> Xchat
[12:48] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc doesnt say?
[12:48] <sysusr> ubrox, did that
[12:48] <Hobbsee> AtaTurk: should be something there in the options, maybe about profile?  a password field is the one you want
[12:48] <AtaTurk> let me read that...
[12:48] <AtaTurk> hwy Hobbsee what option ? I cant see menu ?
[12:49] <AtaTurk> whe u right u get a menui
[12:49] <sysusr> ubrox, please kick me
[12:49] <sysusr> ubrox, I forgot to restart apache :/
[12:49] <sysusr> ubrox, I'm a stupid noob
[12:49] <sysusr> ^^
[12:49] <AtaTurk> i dont think I can se pasword field
[12:49] <Fraeon> y helo thar
[12:49] <sorin> Hello
[12:50] <Fraeon> I'm having problems with this Places > Computer thing in Gnome again.
[12:50] <AtaTurk> that faq doesnt say that
[12:51] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can see the permissions number of a directory, anybody?
[12:51] <sorin> I have Ubuntu installed, and I also want to install Kubuntu.  I can't figure out how to add the Kubuntu cdrom to the apt database.  It is only looking at /media/cdrom/.  I tried to give it "apt-cdrom add -d '/media/Kubuntu 6.05 i386', but it won't work.
[12:52] <soundray> foxpaul, chmod 777 directory
[12:53] <Hobbsee> sorin: you should just be able to type "sudo apt-cdrom add" and then put in the kubuntu cd, then hit enter
[12:53] <foxpaul> soundray: i dont want to change the permissions, i want to see what they are
[12:53] <soundray> foxpaul: 'ls -l' then
[12:53] <ubrox> sysusr, its ok
[12:53] <sorin> Hobbsee, I get 3 cdroms.
[12:53] <sorin> It is only looking at /media/cdrom
[12:54] <sorin> They are virtual cdroms since it is installed in vmware.  My real dvd-rom, kubuntu iso and ubuntu iso.
[12:54] <foxpaul> soundray: that only shows the code (drwx--wr for example) - i need the actual number (744 for example)
[12:54] <Hobbsee> hmm
[12:54] <defrysk> !upgrade
[12:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[12:55] <Fraeon> I'm still not getting why Gnome refuses to show my drives in Places > Computer
[12:55] <latis> I cant seem to find my pcmcia port in the device manager :S
[12:55] <tzfardea> hey, when i'm saying something to the microphone i hear it in my speakers, how can i stop it?
[12:55] <Fraeon> Since, I have the user flag on each of these drives in /etc/fstab
[12:57] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know a good substitute app for FlashFXP on windows?
[12:57] <IceTox> Hey, am I alone about having trouble understanding that partitioning program at ubuntu? Like.. In debian I can choose how to deal with different already existing partitions. Ubuntu just saw one partition at 80gb on my disk instead of one at 40 and two at 20.
[12:57] <soundray> foxpaul: ls doesn't seem to provide that... What do you need the number for?
[12:58] <foxpaul> i need to replicate the permissions from one directory onto another - but i can't remember how i set them :)
[12:58] <latis> how can I locate the pcmcia slot in the devicemanager?
[12:58] <dankos> hola
[12:59] <dankos> kuros kuros
[12:59] <dankos> holaaaa!!
[12:59] <dankos> :D
[12:59] <dankos> jaja
[12:59] <sysusr> hallo
[01:00] <latis> 0000:06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 <-- that must be my Audigy2 ZX PCMCIA card.. just wonder how I can get it recognized
[01:00] <dankos> hola
[01:00] <dankos> hola
[01:00] <Droppy> hola
[01:01] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:01] <Droppy> quien eres?
[01:01] <dankos> jaaj
[01:01] <Droppy> jajaqjaja
[01:01] <dankos> chupa un weo.!
[01:01] <Droppy> xD
[01:01] <dankos> jaaj
[01:01] <soundray> foxpaul: is using the other chmod notation a possibility? Say you have rwxr-x--- and you want rwxrwxr-x, the command would be chmod g+w,o+rx
[01:01] <IceTox> Anyone familiar with ubuntu's partition program? I'm used to using fdisk, but this partition program of ubuntu seems not to accept earlier partitions containing windows. Any clue how I can keep my old windows partitions when I'm installing ubuntu?
[01:01] <Droppy> CALLATE
[01:01] <Fraeon> What was the command to get glxgears show the fps?
[01:01] <dankos> jaja..
[01:01] <Fraeon> IceTox, manually edit partitions?
[01:01] <HymnToLife> soundray> yep that would work
[01:01] <Nameeater> !glxgears
[01:01] <Fraeon> Or do you have a problem with that part of it?
[01:01] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:02] <dankos> q me hablai en ingles!
[01:02] <HymnToLife> lmao
[01:02] <foxpaul> soundray: which parts of that permissions string are group and which are other?
[01:02] <dankos> no no..
[01:02] <Droppy> si callate gringo culia
[01:02] <Droppy> o culio
[01:02] <dankos> jaja!!
[01:02] <soundray> foxpaul, owner - group - world
[01:02] <Droppy> aahajaakkakakaka
[01:02] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:02] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:02] <foxpaul> soundray: ok cool - many thanks
[01:02] <Droppy> estupido teclado
[01:03] <ubrox> when i'm trying to install php4-pear on ubuntu, it wants to install php5-cli/common, how do i go over that?
[01:03] <Seveas> thanks IdleOne
[01:03] <IdleOne> thank you  Seveas
[01:03] <latis> 0000:06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 <-- that must be my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA card, any1 who knows how to get it recognized?
[01:03] <soundray> foxpaul: and each group of three corresponds to an octal as a binary, ie. rwx = 7, r-x = 5 etc.
[01:03] <Seveas> ubrox, first install php4-cli or libapache2-mod-php4
[01:03] <camila> hola
[01:03] <Seveas> and then php4-pear
[01:04] <camila> hola
[01:04] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <ubrox> Seveas, but php is working in apache now, so isnt lbiapachce2-mod-php4 installed already?
[01:04] <ubrox> i'll check
[01:05] <ubrox> Seveas, as expected, libapache2-mod-php4 is installed
[01:05] <Seveas> hmm, odd
[01:05] <Seveas> dapper or breezy?
[01:05] <ubrox> breezy
[01:06] <ubrox> pear installation might need php4-cli though, no ?
[01:06] <Chamila> hai
[01:06] <Seveas> yeah
[01:06] <ubrox> if i install php4=cli, then the pear, will it still ask for php5-cli ?
[01:06] <heyjoe2> how do i install login managers from the gnome website once ive downloaded them?
[01:06] <ubrox> or it will see php4-cli and live with that?
[01:06] <Seveas> it will
[01:06] <ubrox> blah
[01:06] <ubrox> so why is the package called php4-cli ?
[01:06] <ubrox> so why is the package called php4-pear ...
[01:07] <Seveas> php4-pear is a transitional package
[01:07] <OperaG> Good morning
[01:07] <Fraeon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9906 <-- what do I have to put here to have Gnome detect the drives in the Places > Computer...thing?
[01:07] <ubrox> Seveas, meaning what ?
[01:07] <ubrox> how do i get it untransitionally installed?
[01:07] <Seveas> ubrox, meaning that I didn't look good - forget that last line ;)
[01:08] <Seveas> install php4-cli and it should work
[01:08] <ubrox> it wont look for php5-cli afterwards?
[01:08] <OperaG> I would like to try Ubuntu, so I burned the Live CD.  However I am getting a few problems at boot...  anyone can help?
[01:08] <Seveas> no
[01:08] <Seveas> drad
[01:08] <Seveas> it will look for php5-common
[01:08] <soundray> OperaG: describe your problem and there is a chance.
[01:08] <SiriusA> hi, i installed firefox manually, it works fine, but the icon in the upper left is not ok.... its just a X not the firefox icon, can i fix this?
[01:09] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with installing login managers from gnome. ive downloaded it and dont know what to do?
[01:09] <ubrox> Seveas, so what good will that do ?
[01:09] <ubrox> i dont want to install php5 :( :( :(
[01:09] <Seveas> nothing - you should file a bug
[01:10] <ubrox> SiriusA, i think the ubuntu wiki site tells how to fix that
[01:10] <IdleOne> SiriusA>  you want to change the webbrower icon?
[01:10] <ubrox> blah
[01:10] <ubrox> gr8
[01:10] <ubrox> so i'll go install pear manually
[01:10] <Seveas> ubrox, btw: php5-common is just docs and examples
[01:10] <Rawplayer> RE
[01:10] <Seveas> so it's safe to install and forget
[01:10] <Seveas> TARD
[01:10] <ubrox> can i mask it
[01:10] <OperaG> 1) I own a Logitech Internet keyboard with Canada-French layout - not recognized correctly even if I choose "french canadian"
[01:10] <ubrox> somehow
[01:10] <Seveas> Rawplayer, :
[01:10] <Seveas> ubrox, not really
[01:10] <ubrox> can i mask the package somehow, like in gentoo ?
[01:10] <ubrox> blah
[01:12] <Rawplayer> :p
[01:12] <OperaG> 2) During the start-up routine, system stalls at "Checking Entreprise File System" (not exact words)
[01:12] <soundray> heyjoe2: you downloaded sorry what?
[01:12] <OperaG> 3) It eventually continues, and then stalls again on an orange/brown back-ground, no icon, no panel
[01:12] <IdleOne> OperaG>  make sure the cd is clean and if that doesnt work burn again at slower speed
[01:12] <senectus> If Ileave my desktop alone for an hour or so, it resets back to the GDM login screen. If I was looking for logs that might explain this, what log files would I look into?
[01:12] <SiriusA> ubrox, ok i`ll take a look
[01:12] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:12] <OperaG> Idle: if it's an error on CD then why does it work for all the preliminary steps of configuration?
[01:12] <IdleOne> OperaG>  thats a good question
[01:12] <ubrox> SiriusA, tnx
[01:13] <OperaG> the Entreprise File System step during boot sequence, what does it refer too?  Could it be somehow linked to the fact I am using ReiserFS file system on my hard drives?
[01:13] <Lorvija> hey.. Can I make applets and windows transparent in those panels? now I can only make panels themselves transparent.
[01:14] <IdleOne> OperaG>  could be but Im not sure
[01:15] <soundray> OperaG: what live CD version is this?
[01:15] <OperaG> I was planning on moving from Linspire to Ubuntu but with these issues I am not sure anymore...
[01:15] <OperaG> soudray: 5.10 (burned it last night)
[01:16] <ubrox> is there any wya to expan my ubuntu partition under VMWARE?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> OperaG: The CDs have a check feature too... not sure if that got mentioned already.
[01:16] <OperaG> tomcat_ : I am not sure of what you mean by that?
[01:16] <xstation> hey
[01:17] <xstation> can I use kmail in a gmone environment
[01:17] <ablomen> Seveas: i think ompaul wants attention on the other channel ;)
[01:17] <heyjoe2> where is the 'configuration editor' on ubuntu. anyone know?
[01:17] <k31th> anyone watch 24 ?
[01:17] <IdleOne> xstation>  yes
[01:17] <Tomcat_> OperaG: There might be a boot option, and if you're in the text mode menu, you can choose to check the data of the CD... so you can be sure your CD is okay.
[01:17] <soundray> OperaG: if your machine is compatible with Linspire, I am sure it is possible to run Ubuntu on it as well.
[01:17] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:17] <ompaul>  ablomen  all done
[01:17] <Seveas> ablomen, ompaul always wants attention ;)
[01:18] <ablomen> lol
[01:18] <SiriusA> ubrox, i dont find anything :(
[01:18] <heyjoe2> come on, someone must know where the configuration editor is?
[01:18] <xstation> IdleOne: How just do apt-get install kmail
[01:18] <ubrox> SiriusA, what did you look for ?
[01:18] <SiriusA> ubotu, firefox and icon
[01:18] <ubotu> SiriusA: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:18] <OperaG> soundray : that was my understanding as well, and also that the things that arent working with Linspire may get better support from Ubunto...
[01:18] <soundray> heyjoe2: what do you want to configure.
[01:18] <IdleOne> xstation>  yup that should work dont forget sudo
[01:18] <soundray> ?
[01:18] <heyjoe2> soundray: splashscreen
[01:18] <soundray> heyjoe2: which one?
[01:19] <OperaG> anyway now I got to go to work - I'll post something on the forum for these issues and see what suggestions I can get...
[01:19] <OperaG> thanks everyone and have a great day
[01:19] <ubrox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:19] <ubrox> look there
[01:19] <ubrox> f you want to keep the original Ubuntu icon for firefox, enter this command:
[01:19] <ubrox>  sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.xpm /opt/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm
[01:19] <ubrox> 
[01:19] <heyjoe2> soundray: i dunno, i just downloaded a cool splash screen from the gnome-art site
[01:19] <xstation> IdleOne: Ihave Postfix as my MTA but was after a easy mail client
[01:19] <heyjoe2> and wanted to set it up
[01:20] <IdleOne> xstation>  I dont use kmail but if you want to give it a try it will work
[01:20] <soundray> heyjoe2: I think you will find what you are looking for in System-Administration-Login Manager
[01:21] <heyjoe2> soundray: thanks
[01:21] <xstation> IdleOne: there are a few evolution sylpheed pine elm mutt what do you use
[01:21] <IdleOne> xstation>  evolution here
[01:21] <gnomefreak> sylpheed here :)
[01:22] <IdleOne> morning gnomefreak
[01:22] <gnomefreak> morning IdleOne
[01:22] <soundray> mutt here
[01:22] <Fraeon> I'm insulted
[01:22] <Fraeon> You didn't list Thunderbird.
[01:22] <xstation> IdleOne: what do you like about evolution
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Fraeon: he didnt list a bunch of them ;)
[01:22] <IdleOne> xstation>  Im not very picky about mail clients as long as I can retrieve and read Im good
[01:23] <xstation> gnomefreek: what do you like about sylpheed
[01:23] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: sending might help a bit too
[01:23] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  that isnt necesary I use gmail to send if I have to...but this is offtopic :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> xstation: it hasnt let me down yet :)
[01:24] <soundray> IdleOne: xstation is looking for a mail client recommendation, so you're fully on-topic in my opinion.
[01:24] <stoneCold> Hey any one knows root password for Ubuntu live cd ?
[01:24] <IdleOne> soundray>  indeed :)
[01:25] <soundray> stoneCold: there is none. Use sudo.
[01:25] <stoneCold> ok fine thanks
[01:25] <IdleOne> xstation>  give them all a try and see what you prefer
[01:26] <gnomefreak> xstation: im tempted to agree with IdleOne give them alla shot its the only way you'll get what you like :)
[01:26] <soundray> xstation: start with 'mail'
[01:26] <soundray> ;)
[01:26] <IdleOne> xstation>  I went with evolution becuase it was installed by default..liked it cuase was simple for me atleast to setup my email addys..so I justkept using it
[01:27] <xstation> thanks guys
[01:27] <IdleOne> xstation>  no problem
[01:28] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:28] <IdleOne> !tell Reg|ster  aout nvidia
[01:28] <Reg|ster> ?
[01:28] <IdleOne> yhmmm that didnt work
[01:29] <Ophiocus> !tell Reg|ster  about nvidia
[01:29] <Ophiocus> there :)
[01:29] <soundray> IdleOne: aout format has long been abandoned ;)
[01:29] <IdleOne> heh thanks Ophiocus
[01:29] <Reg|ster> thx :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Reg|ster: glxgears -printfps
[01:30] <IdleOne> soundray>  they should bring it back I miss it
[01:30] <odat> anyone able to help me track down a weird startup program
[01:30] <Rod> hi
[01:30] <odat> each time i start this machine it opens gedit
[01:30] <IdleOne> hey Rod
[01:30] <soundray> IdleOne: really?
[01:31] <soundray> odat, look in System-Preferences-Sessions
[01:31] <IdleOne> soundray>  lol I guess I should anser no?
[01:31] <jojobar> odat you left im open wen you close the machine
[01:32] <xstation> back again
[01:32] <IdleOne> xstation>  wb
[01:32] <soundray> IdleOne: I'm a non-coding user (well almost), so I wouldn't know. But I've never heard a complaint about the ELF switch.
[01:32] <gnomefreak> wb
[01:32] <odat> jojobar, i have closed gedit a thousand time before shutting down or restarting and it still opens when i start this machine
[01:32] <xstation> whats Sylpheed-Claws mean
[01:32] <gnomefreak> that is sylpheed
[01:32] <soundray> odat, have you checked System-Preferences-Sessions
[01:32] <gnomefreak> i would get the gtk version
[01:32] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  mail client
[01:33] <odat> soundray, yes there is nothing related to gedit in there
[01:33] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  nm
[01:33] <soundray> odat, not even in the Startup tab?
[01:33] <odat> soundray, nope
[01:33] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: we told him sylpheed already (i was assuming he knew mail client)
[01:34] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  i read your staement as What is and not That is :/
[01:34] <gnomefreak> ahhh
[01:35] <xstation> gnomefreak:did a google for openpgp and mixmasteris what I use and i was refered to sypheed-claws
[01:36] <xstation> gnomefreak: sorry another world
[01:37] <soundray> odat, I would open gconf-editor and search for gedit in key values.
[01:37] <Rod> hey im looking for that hardware compatability list, where is it?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ok how do you people do the mailing lists :( omg 127 messages in less than 12 hours :(
[01:38] <lasindi[lappy] > Is there a way to fake your MAC address on your ethernet card in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <elkbuntu> time for a round of name the missing package -->  configure: error: Could not find jpeglib.h
[01:38] <soundray> !tell Rod about hardware
[01:38] <Rod> tnx
[01:38] <soundray> elkbuntu: libjpeg62-dev
[01:38] <Sanne> elkbuntu, you can find out on packages.ubuntu.com under "Search the contents of packages"
[01:39] <Sanne> elkbuntu, very handy, that :)
[01:39] <Error_X> Why can't I play mp3 files? (I'm using amarok)
[01:39] <soundray> !tell Error_X about restricted
[01:40] <Rod> Okay. I have this problem. I have a ubuntu (dapper, fl4) live cd. I want to use the internet with it but it a wirelessnetwork with  D-Link
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> DWL-122
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> prism2_usb
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> 2005-11-14
[01:40] <Rod> 
[01:40] <Rod> USB
[01:40] <Rod> oops sry!
[01:41] <Seveas> foolish pasters
[01:41] <soundray> Seveas: I think it was an innocent mistake.
[01:41] <cjr> Hi all, it looks like my video card is broken, so I'll be needing a new one. I'm not a gamer, and I want something cheap but well-supported bu Ubuntu. What should I buy and how do I configure it? (Will Ubuntu just recognise the new card on boot?)
[01:41] <Error_X> I convert my mp3 files to .ogg instead....
[01:42] <Fredde> Is there more than me having problem with flash in ubuntu?
[01:42] <soundray> Fredde: yes.
[01:42] <lasindi[lappy] > Is there a way to fake your MAC address on your ethernet card in Ubuntu?
[01:42] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , ifconfig eth0 hwaddr
[01:42] <Seveas> man ifconfig for the details
[01:43] <soundray> Fredde: amd64?
[01:43] <latis> how do I change the port in the bittorrent application shipped with ubuntu?
[01:43] <Fredde> soundray: intel / x86
[01:43] <Error_X> What is the latest ubuntu?
[01:43] <Error_X> breezy?
[01:43] <latis> 5.10 breezy
[01:44] <Error_X> As I thought
[01:44] <latis> any knows how to change port in the default bittorrent application shipped with ubuntu?
[01:45] <soundray> Rod, do you see a wlan entry in System-Administration-Networking?
[01:45] <hjnh> test
[01:45] <IdleOne> success
[01:45] <soundray> Fredde: what's the problem?
[01:45] <Rod> soundray, well i dont see it atm but I know it is there :) Only lo is recognised, not the usb device (networkcarcd) itself
[01:46] <Rod> soundray, it not that what you mean, is it?
[01:46] <soundray> Rod, it is. I think you'll have to do a harddisk install before you can use your wlan adapter.
[01:47] <Rod> aai to bad
[01:47] <Fredde> soundray: sometimes the script is completly wrong if you compare to flash on windows, and some swf the text isn't shown
[01:47] <soundray> Rod, but then it'll probably work, unless you have a different chipset under the same model name (D-Link does that famously).
[01:48] <Rod> hehe well i cant install anything...There is a forumthread on how to get in working on a hd install but i cant do such install here
[01:48] <soundray> Fredde: are you using the Macromedia Flash plugin, or one of the free ones?
[01:48] <soundray> Rod, the 5.10 live CD isn't for installing.
[01:49] <iidnet> hi im totally new here
[01:49] <soundray> iidnet: welcome.
[01:49] <Rod> soundray, i have the flight4 dapper live cd... but I mean, i cant install anything on this computer, im not allowed to lol
[01:49] <iidnet> yeah thanks
[01:49] <Rod> cuz i look kinda like i dont know what im dooing hehe
[01:49] <Fredde> soundray: the non free, I think
[01:49] <soundray> Rod, I see.
[01:49] <iidnet> i hav a question with u guys
[01:50] <iidnet> at the terminal command i dont see any root just users
[01:50] <soundray> Fredde, you could enter "about:plugins" in the firefox address field to see if you have the Macromedia one and/or others.
[01:50] <soundray> Fredde: if there are others as well, there can be conflicts.
[01:50] <iidnet> when i su i could not get something...
[01:50] <IdleOne> iidnet>  use sudo
[01:51] <gnomefreak> iidnet: use sudo
[01:51] <IdleOne> !tell iidnet  about sudo
[01:51] <iidnet> ok i'll try it now
[01:51] <iidnet> yeah i already heard about sudo
[01:51] <latis> I dont think my pcmcia port is installed, how can I check?
[01:51] <soundray> Fredde: if the non-free one is the only one, it's because Macromedia don't support Linux as well as Windows.
[01:51] <hiquality>  laptop for sale 500$ want it gone today. price includes shipping, case, wireless router. message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[01:51] <webex> how do i se what process are runnin trew the terminal window?
[01:51] <Fredde> soundrat: I got two
[01:51] <gnomefreak> webex: ps aux
[01:52] <soundray> latis, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug a card.
[01:52] <webex> thanks gnomefreak
[01:52] <gnomefreak> webex: yw
[01:52] <soundray> Fredde: I suggest you remove one of them.
[01:52] <Fredde> soundray: application/x-shockwave-flash, Shockwave Flash and application/futuresplash, FutureSplash Player
[01:52] <soundray> Fredde: oh, right, no, that should be fine.
[01:52] <latis> soundray, Mar  9 13:53:00 localhost kernel: [4295678.722000]  PCMCIA: socket f7f7e42c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power
[01:53] <Fredde> wait
[01:53] <Fredde> I got to labels with shockwave flash
[01:53] <latis> soundray,  seems to be installed, but how come my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA card cant get installed?
[01:53] <Fredde> soundray: I got to labels with shockwave flas
[01:54] <soundray> latis, maybe there aren't any Linux drivers for it, I don't know.
[01:54] <latis> soundray, Ive done the steps on alsa page, but it just wont work
[01:54] <Fredde> soundray: Filnamn: libflashplayer.so
[01:54] <Fredde> , Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
[01:54] <Fredde> soundray: and Filnamn: libflashplayer.so
[01:54] <Fredde> , Shockwave Flash 7.0 r61
[01:56] <soundray> Fredde: if you have two for  application/x-shockwave-flash, there could be a conflict. Check the firefox plugin directories and move the .so files to a backup location.
[01:56] <soundray> Fredde: I mean the ones that correspond to plugins that you want to remove.
[01:56] <Fredde> soundray: is firefox in the home?
[01:56] <Fredde> soundray: same filename and .*
[01:57] <soundray> Fredde: there is a location for config files in ~/.firefox/ , yes.
[01:58] <odat> dapper = Little and active; spruce; trim; smart; neat in dress or
[01:58] <odat>    appearance; lively.
[01:58] <Fredde> soundray: isn't there a easyway to deactivate?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> odat: ok than dapper drake would be a duck that wears a dress ;)
[01:59] <soundray> Fredde: yes, there is: move the .so file to a backup location. Or delete it (even easier).
[01:59] <bradley_> hello everyone
[02:00] <Fredde> soundray: but where can I find the .so? :/
[02:00] <bradley_> does anyone know where i can get the OSX-like dock for gnome?
[02:00] <soundray> Fredde, locate libflashplayer.so
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> bradley_: probably at gnome-look.org
[02:01] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: so, from reading the man page, why shouldn't it be "ifconfig eth0 hw ether <address>" (to specify the class)?
[02:01] !lilo:*! Someone just advertised a $500 laptop for sale on several channels.... his aim account is ogd443.... if you want to help us get rid of this person before he spends all day doing this, please use AIM let him know what you think of his advertisements. :)
[02:01] <Hatfield> ()() please help () what is the shortcut for opening the console, when i am currently viewing a dir, so that the console opens up in the dir i am in??? ()
[02:01] <bradley_> hatake_kakashi: is it a skin? or is it a new app?  Thanks!
[02:02] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , it should be ;)
[02:02] <Muad_Dibber> hi guys
[02:02] <Hatfield> ?
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> bradley_: not sure but go check it out, it might help with your query
[02:02] <bradley_> ok, thank you!
[02:02] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: okay, when I try that, it tells me "Device or resource busy"; what might I have to do to free it up?
[02:03] <Hatfield> anyone in hear help me?
[02:03] <Muad_Dibber> is it possible to setup an sshd or ftpd from the livecd? cause i can't seem to find it
[02:03] <soundray> !patience
[02:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:03] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , ifconfig eth0 down
[02:03] <Hatfield> cool
[02:03] <Seveas> Muad_Dibber, apt-get install openssh-server
[02:04] <hacker>    ?????
[02:04] <Hatfield> how do i open console when i am in a dir?
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> COuldnt' find package openssh server
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> Oh wait, it has some errors before
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> let me look into that
[02:05] <Fredde> soundray: now I only got one shockwave, I had three  :p
[02:05] <soundray> Hatfield: are you in nautilus? Are you sure there is such a shortcut?
[02:05] <Dr_J> afternoon.. im trying to install webmin. it installed ok but now i cant connect to it.. keep getting access denied.. any ideas?
[02:05] <soundray> Dr_J: I think it requires a web server.
[02:06] <_lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: works great! :) Thanks for the help
[02:06] <Hatfield> i am in ubuntu
[02:07] <Fredde> soundray: I'm still having problems :/
[02:08] <soundray> Hatfield: the file browser is called nautilus.
[02:08] <Hatfield> yes
[02:09] <webex> gnomefreak, you know how to use ps to list the process in long format? cant find it in the man pages..
[02:09] <gnomefreak> i have never seen an option to open a terminal to a dir that your in in nautilus
[02:09] <gnomefreak> webex: ps
[02:09] <Hatfield> what filemanager should i use?
[02:09] <webex> gnomefreak, ?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> webex: i think ps will list everything
[02:10] <soundray> webex, ps auxw
[02:10] <gnomefreak> no w
[02:10] <gnomefreak> soundray: he did that one already
[02:10] <soundray> gnomefreak: why not?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> never saw the w
[02:10] <gnomefreak> is that a typo or is that the command?
[02:10] <webex> dose aux list it in long format? whats the short one then?
[02:11] <soundray> gnomefreak: I never make typograhpical errors ;)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ps aux is long on
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lol soundray
[02:11] <webex> gnomefreak, and thats make the sort one? just ps? =S
[02:11] <gnomefreak> i found ps aux longer than ps auxw
[02:11] <iidnet> im back...
[02:12] <gnomefreak> webex: yes ps is short
[02:12] <soundray> Hatfield: just open a terminal and enter cd /target/directory (replacing the desired target)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ps lists what you have open
[02:12] <iidnet> anybody from the philippines?
[02:12] <webex> gnomefreak, man thats short =P .. thanks for the help
[02:13] <iidnet> when i started ubuntu last year i did not explore it well...but for now i really appreciated its developments and features
[02:13] <jackphil> hi, is there an analog to kudzu in ubuntu?
[02:14] <soundray> jackphil: is that the hardware recognition thing in Red Hat?
[02:14] <Hatfield> thank you soundray
[02:14] <jackphil> soundray, yes.
[02:14] <JustinLynn> soundray: it's the automatic system configuration change detector and configurer.
[02:16] <zarephath> What file to edit to make my ip address static?
[02:16] <soundray> jackphil: Ubuntu pretty much relies on a stable system configuration. There is hotplug and udev for devices that typically change, but, afaik, nothing that identifies, say, a new graphics card.
[02:16] <Seveas> zarephath, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:16] <soundray> zarephath: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:16] <zarephath> Seveas, soundray: Thanks..
[02:18] <soundray> zarephath: so, who are you going to listen to, now? ;)
[02:18] <jackphil> soundra, what's hotplug? there is no program called hotplug in my system
[02:18] <Hatfield> is anyone from TEXAS?
[02:19] <soundray> jackphil: dapper or breezy?
[02:19] <jackphil> dapper
[02:19] <soundray> jackphil: relies on udev alone, I think. Seveas?
[02:20] <Seveas> soundray, correct
[02:20] <soundray> jackphil: anyway, is this a general enquiry or is something not working?
[02:21] <soundray> Seveas: thanks.
[02:21] <Hoxzer> Hmmm... I can't burn cd/dvd's in ubuntu for some reason
[02:21] <GnarusLeo> When trying to install VMware I ge this error that says my kernel was compiled with gcc3, and im trying to use gcc4, please recompile your kernel ... wtf? need vmmon modules (Which gcc obviously could compile) ...
[02:21] <Hoxzer> BUrning process is just damn fast but there is no data on cd after bunr
[02:21] <Hoxzer> *burn
[02:22] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:22] <Seveas> export CC=gcc-3.4
[02:22] <Seveas> ./vmware-config.pl
[02:23] <GnarusLeo> ty!
[02:23] <jackphil> soundray, the vmware network card can't be found after i cloned machine
[02:23] <zarephath> Do I need to include the up statement in interfaces? Or does Ubuntu automatically bring up the device on boot with static ip?
[02:24] <zarephath> I am guessing it will do it at boot..
[02:24] <soundray> zarephath: it brings up devices for which you have defined a line like 'auto eth0'
[02:25] <GnarusLeo> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:25] <GnarusLeo>  kernel?" it asks
[02:25] <zarephath> soundray: So since it was already set to auto for dhcp no need to mess with it..thanks
[02:25] <soundray> jackphil: I don't know. Try asking in #ubuntu+1, it's a channel for dapper discussion.
[02:25] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, it asks for the dir of C header files that match your running kernel ..
[02:26] <eXistenZ> what is the best burning proggie for ubuntu
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> p3k
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> eXistenZ, p3k
[02:26] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:26] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: Usually /usr/src/linux
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> THanks both
[02:26] <jackphil> soundray, thx
[02:26] <IdleOne> eXistenZ>  gnomebaker k3b serpentine take your pick
[02:27] <LuisBG> I've got the fglrx driver working good for everything, but 3d where mesa appears and I want to use fglrx for 3d too... how do I do it? read like a dozen ubuntu howtos :(
[02:27] <zarephath> Is there a way to change a .rpm into a .deb file?
[02:28] <soundray> zarephath: man alien
[02:28] <IdleOne> zarephath>  what package do you want cuase there probably is a .deb for it
[02:28] <zarephath> IdleOne: Nope...I was wanting to see how to do it for vmware
[02:28] <zarephath> thanks though!
[02:29] <SiriusA> if i start firefox from the konsole i get this errors:
[02:29] <SiriusA> (firefox-bin:12892): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[02:29] <SiriusA> what's this about?
[02:29] <Fonzie2>                                          Ashly
[02:29] <Fonzie2> sorry
[02:29] <zarephath> Are there additional steps in getting 3D acceleration working on a GeForce 6200?
[02:29] <soundray> SiriusA: Don't know, but I get those all the time. Got used to them...
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zarephath about nvidia
[02:30] <defrysk> SiriusA, you use automatix ?
[02:30] <zarephath> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:30] <gnomefreak> yw zarephath
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i cringe at that word :(
[02:31] <SiriusA> defrysk, no automatikS
[02:31] <SiriusA> defrysk, but i installed firefox manually
[02:31] <defrysk> SiriusA, one thing less toblame :)
[02:31] <soundray> defrysk: would that be a side effect from automatix?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[02:31] <defrysk> soundray, possibly
[02:32] <defrysk> soundray, automatix is some script from some clueless person
[02:32] <defrysk> SiriusA, then blame the manual install
[02:33] <SiriusA> defrysk, i need the manual install, cause the 64 bit version dont work very well with flash and java
[02:34] <anildigit> which is best irc chat soft in ububtu?
[02:34] <soundray> defrysk: I know what it is. I tried it on a non-essential machine. No bad effects there. I have the same error as SiriusA on another machine where I didn't use automatix (blamed it on being an amd64 install, so far).
[02:34] <defrysk> soundray, I do not have amd64 so cannot confirm it
[02:35] <eXistenZ> IdleOne, what email client do you suggest? thunderbird?
[02:35] <anildigit> idleOne is always here?
[02:35] <anildigit> who r u?
[02:36] <anildigit> Making timepass here?
[02:36] <soundray> SiriusA: you can install the 32-bit Ubuntu firefox package in a 32bit-chroot environment.
[02:36] <soundray> !chroot
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:36] <SiriusA> soundray, firefox works fine so far
[02:36] <SiriusA> just wondering about those errors
[02:36] <soundray> SiriusA: I'm surprised that with your manual install, you don't have more serious problems than that.
[02:37] <SiriusA> no, works really fine
[02:37] <soundray> SiriusA: so you used a 32bit binary?
[02:37] <SiriusA> yes
[02:37] <soundray> Interesting.
[02:37] <weedar_> What is the sound device? I have no /dev/dsp* yet still I have sound
[02:37] <thegladiator> anildigit, hi
[02:38] <soundray> weedar_: /dev/dsp and /dev/audio are provided by ALSA's compatibility layer only when needed by programs that rely on the old OSS scheme.
[02:38] <weedar_> soundray, VMware wants a device to output sound to =)
[02:39] <weedar_> soundray, what do you suggest I do then?
[02:39] <Fraeon> !oss
[02:39] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fraeon
[02:39] <soundray> weedar_: give it /dev/dsp
[02:40] <weedar_> soundray, but there exists no /dev/dsp as I said
[02:40] <soundray> weedar_: it should work anyway.
[02:40] <SiriusA> hmhm my locales seems to be fucked up
[02:40] <SiriusA> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/359/
[02:40] <zarephath> Ahh...nvidia installed...how to double check to make sure all is well?
[02:40] <SiriusA> why posix?
[02:40] <weedar_> soundray, well, it doesn't :)
[02:40] <soundray> weedar_: if not, do a sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[02:40] <SiriusA> my locales look like this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/360/
[02:40] <defrysk> glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:40] <defrysk> or something
[02:41] <weedar_> brilliant soundray - thanks! :)
[02:41] <soundray> weedar_: working?
[02:41] <zarephath> defrysk: okey thanks..
[02:41] <weedar_> I got /dev/dsp at least
[02:41] <defrysk> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:41] <defrysk> even
[02:41] <soundray> weedar_: ah, at least.
[02:42] <GnarusLeo> What??? Isnt VMware free anymore?
[02:42] <Ng> vmware has never been free
[02:42] <zarephath> anyone: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:42] <weedar_> GnarusLeo, the player is free, not workstation edition
[02:42] <Ng> it's commercial software
[02:43] <GnarusLeo> whats the player all about?
[02:43] <zarephath> Actually they have a server version that is beta that is free...AFAIK all other products are commercial at this time..there is talk they make ESX server free in the future
[02:43] <weedar_> It let's you use a virtual machine, so if you made one with bochs you're all set =)
[02:43] <GnarusLeo> weedar_, whats the player all about?
[02:43] <Ng> it lets you run a premade virtual machine
[02:44] <weedar_> I _just_ exaplined that GnarusLeo
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> oh
[02:44] <zarephath> But you can't make changes to it and have them save
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> oh, sorry
[02:44] <weedar_> *explained
[02:44] <weedar_> soundray, but will that module get loaded on reboot now or do I have to add it to /etc/modules ?
[02:45] <webex> anyone knows what the flag for listing the highest amount of cpu use first whith the top command?
[02:45] <soundray> weedar_: if you add it to /etc/modules, you can be sure that it'll work.
[02:45] <GnarusLeo> weedar_ and Ng: it was _VERY_ easy to make one without registering :) Just make it with the vmware (Dont turn it on), and use vmplayer to use it :D
[02:46] <soundray> GnarusLeo, zarephath, there is a difference between Free software and software available at no cost.
[02:46] <zarephath> Can someone look at the output of glxinfo and tell me what I need to do to fix the problem? I installed per wiki instructions.. and rebooted...http://pastebin.com/592553
[02:46] <weedar_> Free and stolen is not the same thing :)
[02:47] <tim_> hi there, i seem to be unable to install the nforce drivers since it tells me that my kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4 and my current gcc is 4.*. What should I do?
[02:47] <zarephath> soundray: Sure I know that...
[02:47] <Hoxzer> jesus guys
[02:47] <Hoxzer> I need to be able to burn when in ubuntu
[02:48] <weedar_> So get an application to do that then Hoxzer, like K3b for KDE
[02:48] <ompaul> Hoxzer, less of the language why not use nautilus k3b or gnomebaker
[02:48] <weedar_> I'm not sure what the best gnome equivalent would be though
[02:48] <zarephath> Exactly why I suggested the beta Server...all you need to do is register and they will send you a serial for windows and linux versions :-)
[02:49] <soundray> zarephath: have you got the 'Load "glx"' line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:49] <Hoxzer> Weedar_: I have a gnome burner and nero but they both dont work
[02:49] <zarephath> soundray: Maybe I have a typo...let me review..thanks
[02:49] <Hoxzer> Burning process is just fast but doesn't write any data to cd
[02:49] <weedar_> on the other hand you now have lovely coasters
[02:50] <soundray> zarephath: failing that, check if /var/log/Xorg.0.log is more verbose about your problem.
[02:50] <zarephath> soundray: Great..will do
[02:50] <ompaul> Hoxzer, so install k3b or gnomebaker
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I have it
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I meant gnomebaker when I said gnome burner
[02:50] <webex> anyone know the flag for listing the memory use first whit the top command?
[02:50] <weedar_> have you tried k3b Hoxzer ?
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I might give a try
[02:51] <defrysk> serpentine for audio
[02:51] <weedar_> If you are sure your settings are correct you might want to try starting the program from a console, as some programs output errors to the console that don't get shown in the GUI
[02:51] <eXistenZ> Can anyone recommend me a good rss reader
[02:51] <defrysk> atom
[02:52] <soundray> Hoxzer, simplifying on weedar_'s approach, run 'cdrecord -v speed=32 dev=0,0,0 file.iso -pad' on the console (with a valid file.iso in the directory) and see if that gives you intelligible error msgs.
[02:52] <Hoxzer> will try
[02:52] <Hoxzer> I first test gnome baker again with new burner
[02:53] <weedar_> soundray, that must be _the_ most incorrect usage of the word "simplifying" but still that was a great suggestion :)
[02:54] <soundray> weedar_: hey, don't call it incorrect, call it creative ;)
[02:55] <Hoxzer> soundray: there you go http://pastebin.com/592561
[02:55] <Paedrigh> I've got a problem with my internet/Lan connection. Tried to change IP-Gateway-Subnet in network settings, seemed fine, but when doing ifconfig it didn't match up at all. Anyone up for helping?
[02:55] <weedar_> hehe
[02:55] <tim_> my problem with the wrong gcc version when installing the nforce drivers aint very common huh? =/
[02:56] <danx84> giorno
[02:56] <Digis> why does ubuntu does not use libfreetype6+BCI? cause fedora uses it, and it fonts looks much better. Is there any posibility enable it in ubuntu manually?
[02:57] <Digis> As I know, it is because of patent issues
[02:57] <wewrrss> i have hp nx 6110, tryin to
[02:57] <soundray> Hoxzer: 1) try with sudo; 2) do what it suggests and run sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[02:57] <rohan> where can i check the dapper road map ?
[02:57] <rohan> so i can see when the next flight will be out
[02:57] <defrysk> !roadmap
[02:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[02:58] <rohan> defrysk: lol
[02:58] <soundray> !dapper
[02:58] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[02:58] <defrysk> rohan, try google, dapper is out april 20
[02:58] <rohan> defrysk: whoa, long wait :(
[02:58] <tim_> is there some function to reinstall my audio stuff?
[02:58] <rohan> > month
[02:58] <tim_> like scanning for hardware, installing driver?
[02:59] <bradley_> hello...
[02:59] <briceg> hello evrybody!
[02:59] <bradley_> i've hunted around and cant seem to find the osx-like dock... i've seen it in tons of screenshots... anyone know what application is used and where i can get it?
[02:59] <weedar_> I'm not sure I feel comfortable with ubuntu having a release on 4/20..
[02:59] <Hoxzer> soundray: tried with sudo and seems like "sudo cdrecord -scanbus" gives same error strange :/
[03:00] <briceg> Does someone ever installed a server cygwin on a window?
[03:00] <Toma> bradley_, gdesklets
[03:00] <bradley_> Toma: i've got that installed... is it a them then?
[03:00] <bradley_> *theme
[03:00] <Toma> yep
[03:00] <soundray> Hoxzer: hmm, maybe your burner isn't recognized as such. Is it a new drive? SATA?
[03:01] <bradley_> might i ask where that theme is located? or how to install it?  <---total n00b here
[03:01] <briceg> ok... bye
[03:01] <Toma> you want StarterBar
[03:01] <bradley_> starter bar?
[03:01] <Toma> yep
[03:01] <bradley_> thank you, let me look that up
[03:01] <Hoxzer> soundray: IDE and it has worked on ubuntu 5.04
[03:02] <Toma> !info gdeskets-data
[03:02] <Toma> !info gdesklets-data
[03:02] <ubotu> gdesklets-data: (Applets for gdesklets), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3924 kB, Installed size: 13296 kB
[03:02] <heyjoe2> anyone know any sites that help u with making the fonts on ubuntu look a little nicer, perhaps a little mac os x 'er
[03:02] <Toma> get that ^
[03:02] <Toma> brb
[03:02] <heyjoe2> i think ubuntu is great, but the fonts are a little ugly
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell heyjoe2 about fonts
[03:03] <Hoxzer> I think the desktop doesn't look good at all
[03:03] <soundray> Hoxzer: I'm out of ideas, sorry.
[03:03] <Hoxzer> :D
[03:03] <Hoxzer> me too :(
[03:03] <daem0n> is there a way to change the permissions of any file that goes into a folder automatically, e.g. any file that is moved into /home/user/public_html has its permissions changed to give read access to others
[03:03] <Paedrigh> I've got a problem with my internet/Lan connection. Tried to change IP-Gateway-Subnet in network settings, seemed fine, but when doing ifconfig it didn't match up at all. Anyone up for helping?
[03:04] <Hoxzer> It's pretty fun that I have to boot windows just for one cd bunr
[03:04] <Hoxzer> *burn
[03:04] <batman> does anyone know where i would need to put a font so i could use it in gimp?
[03:04] <soundray> Paedrigh: try 'ifup eth0' or whatever device you changed, then ifconfig
[03:05] <rohan> ehm.. flight5 is out ?!
[03:05] <gnomefreak> rohan: not sure if it hit the servers but i think it has
[03:05] <Paedrigh> eth0 was the one...ist that a zero in the end?
[03:05] <soundray> Paedrigh: yes.
[03:06] <Paedrigh> soundray: I tried that, but nothing really happened
[03:06] <rohan> gnomefreak: oh, ok..
[03:06] <webex> anyone knows if there is any good tutorial for setting up a fileserver whit ubuntu somewhere?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> webex, file server .... nfs ?
[03:07] <soundray> Paedrigh: no errors?
[03:08] <Paedrigh> I can't remember what it said, was probably an error message... I can try it again and write down what it says
[03:08] <webex> wickedpuppy,  well i got almost 1tb in my windows computer, now i got a good spare computer running ubuntu.. my ide was to raid them whit raid 5 and probably some hardware raid card, and share them whit my windows computer via 1gb lan.. but there is some parts of it im not all clear whit..
[03:09] <soundray> Paedrigh: hold on...
[03:10] <soundray> Paedrigh: try 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', then check with ifconfig again.
[03:10] <Paedrigh> alright, I'll do that, and I'll make a note of what it says...
[03:10] <webex> anyone here running a raid system?
[03:10] <Paedrigh> will you be here in 30 minutes, soundray?
[03:11] <soundray> Paedrigh: no, but other people will be able to help.
[03:11] <Enthusiast78> webex, Are you into software raid or hardware raid?
[03:11] <Paedrigh> thanx
[03:12] <bobble> Hi, anyone know how to stop audio cds autoloading into Konqueror?
[03:12] <webex> Enthusiast78, thats what i had some questions about.. anyone running a software raid?
[03:12] <mod^> Whats xlibg?
[03:13] <Enthusiast78> webex, Look for 'raidtools'.
[03:13] <lafferpt> how do I send an email using only the command line?
[03:13] <soundray> bobble: if nobody answers here, you may be more lucky in #kubuntu
[03:14] <soundray> lafferpt: echo "Mail body" | mail -s Subject someone@somewhere
[03:14] <soundray> "
[03:14] <bobble> soundray: Thanks
[03:14] <funkyHat> It looks like some work needs doing on the Beagle WiKi page
[03:14] <daem0n> is there a way to change the permissions of any file that goes into a folder automatically, e.g. any file that is moved into /home/user/public_html has its permissions changed to give read access to others
[03:14] <funkyHat> But I don't really know what the facts are (Or I wouldn't be looking at the page ;))
[03:15] <soundray> bobble: if you use mutt instead of mail, you can send attachments from the cli as well.
[03:15] <webex> im interested in the performance of a software vs hardware raid.. i have a amd 64 2800+ 1gb ram.. the computer will only runn the filesystem (fileserver) you thing a software raid will pull that off whit good results?
[03:15] <vtomek> where can i found the original ubuntu kernel patch list?
[03:16] <soundray> daem0n: I don't think there is. You could run a process that regularly sets all files as readable: chmod -R a+r /home/user/public_html
[03:16] <webex> anyone running a raid system under ubuntu?
[03:16] <Enthusiast78> webex, I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid is what you need.
[03:16] <lafferpt> soundray, tks.. but if I want to had a paragraph to the email how do I do that?
[03:16] <mod^> Is there a way to let people see _only_ their processes with 'ps' command?
[03:17] <Enthusiast78> webex, Believe me, setting up software raid is a no-brainer.
[03:17] <Toma-> ive got a problem, when i boot, and go straight to x, i get reeeeally weird keyboard input. i hit ctl-alt-f1 then f7 to goto a console and back, then my keyboard works fine.... and ideas?
[03:17] <webex> Enthusiast78, thanks, what you mean by "no-brainer"?
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Toma-> !ops
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Enthusiast78> webex, I mean it's pretty easy to set it up.
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Toma-> panzer, wow, ur l33t
[03:18] <webex> Enthusiast78, ok =) sounds good
[03:18] <Seveas> sigh, lots of chileans are being assholes today
[03:18] <Seveas> it's the 4th or 5th already
[03:18] <lafferpt> soundray, tks.. but if I want to had a paragraph to the email how do I do that?
[03:19] <mod^> err.. but is there a way to let people see only their processes with 'ps' command..? anyone?
[03:19] <elkbuntu> rofl
[03:19] <Toma-> haha
[03:19] <soundray> lafferpt: what do you mean by "had a paragraph"?
[03:19] <lafferpt> soundray, line feed, (enter)
[03:19] <defrysk> nalioth, thanks
[03:19] <Toma-> ok, before that rude flood, incase no-one saw it....   ive got a problem, when i boot, and go straight to x, i get reeeeally weird keyboard input. i hit ctl-alt-f1 then f7 to goto a console and back, then my keyboard works fine.... and ideas?
[03:20] <Enthusiast78> mod^, add the 'u' parameter and ' | grep user '
[03:20] <soundray> lafferpt: echo -e "Mail body \n New line \n\n Empty line" | mail -s Subject someone@somewhere"
[03:20] <lafferpt> soundray, it's like php, tks
[03:20] <soundray> lafferpt, see man echo for other escape codes.
[03:20] <mod^> err.. I mean can I restrict users to see the processes by other users?
[03:21] <lafferpt> soundray, tks
[03:24] <ecen> hello, i finally was able to make ubuntu to run with lilo. now, i installed ubuntu in expert mode, and when i click on any administration menu, it asks me for the root password, then i type it and it does as it is loading but then it doesnt load. this happens with every single amdinistration menu, any ideas?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> ecen: try user password instead of root pw
[03:25] <Enthusiast78> ecen, It's not asking for the root password, but actually for your password.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> see if that makes a differnece
[03:25] <kameron> how can you get any use out of the "flashplayer-nonfree" package?
[03:26] <lafferpt> soundray, how do I see if the mail was sent?
[03:26] <ecen> i know it will not make any diference because i assigned the same password to both accounts
[03:26] <soundray> lafferpt: you get a reply from the addressee ;)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ecen: that may be it than its not sure what one your using
[03:26] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Which using are you running Gnome with?
[03:27] <lafferpt> soundray, where? :S
[03:27] <Enthusiast78> ecen, (user) not using
[03:27] <lafferpt> soundray,  i'm new to this :(
[03:27] <ecen> the user i created, not root
[03:27] <soundray> lafferpt: seriously, mail doesn't create a Sent folder. If you use mutt instead of mail, it keeps a record in its default configuration.
[03:28] <soundray> lafferpt: the From: address depends on your configuration.
[03:28] <lafferpt> soundray, how do I configure that?
[03:28] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Then that's the password you need.
[03:28] <gnomefreak> su over rides sudo so when you type in password its thinking its su not sudo password thats why you are getting same thing happen
[03:28] <soundray> lafferpt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Enthusiast78: he set up same password for both accounts
[03:29] <ufo> ecen, you need to add the sudoers and something else, it mihgt be easyer to install everything from beginning
[03:29] <ecen> Enthusiast78: the password im using is correct
[03:29] <Enthusiast78> gnomefreak, Wrong passwords are responsible for 99% of authentication problems... ;o)
[03:29] <soundray> lafferpt: you can send a mail to yourself: 'date | mail -s Testing laffer'. It should end up in /var/mail/laffer
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Enthusiast78: it being same password as su is the problem im almost 100% sure on that
[03:30] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Did you install in expert mode? gnomefreak, do you believe he could be missing some gnome-sudo-related package?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> plus having same password would make it useless to have both anyway
[03:30] <ecen> ok, but it is a pain to a newbie like me to install in expert mode. is it dificult to ude default install and then replace grub with gnome?
[03:30] <ecen> i meant, with lilo
[03:30] <soundray> 88.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
[03:30] <Enthusiast78> gnomefreak, Agreed.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ecen: replace grub with gnome?
[03:31] <ecen> lilo
[03:31] <ecen> i meant, lilo
[03:31] <Toma-> ecen, no, swapping lilo for grub is relatively painless
[03:31] <gnomefreak> lol@relatively
[03:31] <Toma-> soundray, i heard it was only 74.3% ;D
[03:31] <ecen> is there a way to make a boot with dd with grub as with lilo?
[03:32] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Do you really need 'lilo' or could you go with 'grub'?
[03:32] <soundray> Toma-: I don't trust your sources ;)
[03:32] <Toma-> my sources are rock solid :D
[03:32] <ufo> ecen, yes you got a lot more problems with sudo that with lilo... you could try man sudoers to see what you should add to /etc/suodoers
[03:32] <Toma-> /dev/urandom is never wrong with statistics
[03:33] <lafferpt> soundray, where can I see how to configure postfix? I don't understand the technical terms it refers to
[03:33] <ecen> Enthusiast78, i dont need lilo, but i need to make boot copy using dd if=...etc to put it in my windows boot menu, is that posible to make boot.lnx with grub?
[03:34] <soundray> lafferpt: there is a wiki page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:34] <Healot> ecen: , you can use "Bootpart" instead...
[03:34] <Healot> it works within Windows...
[03:34] <Toma-> how do you set system time from cli?
[03:35] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:35] <lafferpt> soundray, tks again
[03:35] <ufo> Toma-, date -s
[03:35] <Toma-> ahh thx
[03:35] <ompaul> Toma-, with sudo
[03:35] <ecen> um, i dont want lilo or grub to mess with windows boot, i rather putting lilo or grub boot into windows bott menu
[03:35] <soundray> Toma- 'sudo date -s "Thu Mar  9 14:36:10 GMT 2006"'
[03:35] <soundray> Toma-: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start'
[03:36] <Toma-> ahhhh ntpdate!
[03:36] <Toma-> forgot about that :D thx
[03:36] <heyjoe2> how do you force a quit of a buggered app
[03:36] <Rug> kill programID
[03:36] <ecen> that is why i made a boot.lnx of lilo using "dd if.. of... bs=512... etc", so is it posible to make the same with grub?
[03:36] <Healot> ecen: , It doesn't
[03:36] <soundray> heyjoe2: call xkill in a terminal, then click on its window
[03:37] <heyjoe2> how do i call xkill
[03:37] <Enthusiast78> ecen, I believe it doesn't matter which boot manager you use for that.
[03:37] <heyjoe2> i dont know the command line well sorry
[03:37] <soundray> heyjoe2: just 'xkill'
[03:38] <heyjoe2> cool that worked well
[03:38] <Rug> I understand the reason by not including any services as part of a default install, but can't they make an exception for sshd?
[03:38] <ecen> well, if i was sure that boot manager will not mess with my windows partitions then i would use grub, but i dont trust grub for now. not while im starting to learn to use linux. i need to work in windows while i use linux and get comfortable
[03:38] <soundray> heyjoe2: also, check out the Force Quit gnome applet.
[03:40] <gnomefreak> how do you change the look of the panels?
[03:40] <Rug> put on pink glasses
[03:40] <gnomefreak> is there a theme file? or something?
[03:40] <soundray> Rug: I agree with you.
[03:40] <Rug> soundray: thanks
[03:40] <soundray> Rug: not that it helps much.
[03:41] <Rug> har, well that is my vote
[03:41] <ecen> also, im unable to compile my network card driver in linux. it always compiles without complaining and then when i do: modprobe sundance, it always throws invalid module format.
[03:41] <soundray> gnomefreak: Panel Properties - Background?
[03:41] <Rug> ecen: your nic isn't auto-detected ?
[03:42] <heyjoe2> how do i remove an application
[03:42] <heyjoe2> ?
[03:42] <heyjoe2> i cant do it under add applications
[03:42] <ecen> Rug: no, it is not detected by almost any linux distro
[03:42] <soundray> heyjoe2: 'sudo apt-get remove packagename', or try synaptic (System-Administration)
[03:42] <ubuntu> hola
[03:43] <Rug> ecen: wow, that does suck...   it must be an odd card.  What is it?
[03:43] <heyjoe2> thanks
[03:43] <ubuntu> hola soy mexicano y explorando en sistema ubuntu
[03:43] <ecen> Rug: in fact, no linux distro that i have try has detected the nic. and the only distro in which i was able to sucessfully compile and start the network was mandrake 10.
[03:43] <soundray> !es
[03:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:43] <shukhrat> good day everybody!
[03:44] <ecen> Rug, it is a new card, but a sh... one
[03:44] <shukhrat> how to know how many apache servers are installed in my computer?
[03:44] <shukhrat> i suspect that i have more than one server
[03:45] <shukhrat> Ng how to know how many apache servers are installed in my computer?
[03:46] <shukhrat> ng i suspect that i have more than one server
[03:46] <soundray> shukhrat: it's unlikely. Maybe it is configured to run several instances of itself.
[03:46] <shukhrat> recently i had upgraded the apache server
[03:46] <shukhrat> now i think maybe it didn't upgrade but installed another one
[03:47] <soundray> shukhrat: I think you can have a parallel install of apache and apache2. Check with dpkg -l apache*
[03:47] <shukhrat> the major problem is that i couldn't change document root for localhost
[03:48] <soundray> shukhrat: that is a basic operation. If you couldn't do it, you haven't done it right.
[03:48] <shukhrat> it says no packages found apache2.conf
[03:48] <soundray> Hi Paedrigh.
[03:48] <ecen> so is anyone able to help me see why my nic driver throws "invalid module format"?
[03:48] <Paedrigh> Cheers soundray :)
[03:48] <soundray> shukhrat: Try again with dpkg -l apache\*
[03:49] <shukhrat> soundray, now it yielded a lot of information
[03:49] <Paedrigh> soundray: I did the changes with the IP and everything, and checked ifconfig. It worked. But after about ten seconds it reverted back again
[03:50] <Paedrigh> I'm using a live version, can that be the problem?
[03:50] <soundray> Paedrigh: have you tried configuring via System-Admin-Networking?
[03:51] <soundray> shukhrat: the lines starting with ii refer to packages that are installed.
[03:51] <zarephath> I am following some of the stuff on the restricted formats wiki...did something change on installing stuff to be able to play .aac files?
[03:51] <Paedrigh> Yup, that's what I did. And if I deactivated eth0, and then activated it again, the settings worked for about ten seconds
[03:52] <shukhrat> soundray: there 4 ii's; two of them related to apache 1 and the remaing for apache2
[03:52] <Enthusiast78> shukhrat, Try adding ' | grep ^ii ' to see only what's installed.
[03:52] <soundray> shukhrat: then you have a parallel installation.
[03:52] <shukhrat> soundray: how to uninstall the apache1?
[03:53] <ufo> apt-get remove apache
[03:53] <soundray> shukhrat: listen to ufo ^
[03:54] <soundray> Paedrigh: that's really strange. Is dhclient running?
[03:54] <shukhrat> soundray: could not open lock file ufo
[03:54] <soundray> shukhrat: do the same with sudo
[03:54] <ufo> yes use the sudo
[03:54] <gnomefreak> anyone hav ea clue on how to run 3dchess? its installed no menu and 3dchess and chess dont work in term
[03:55] <soundray> gnomefreak: find out the name of the binary with dpkg -L 3dchess | grep usr/bin
[03:55] <shukhrat> guys, I feel lucky!!! :)
[03:55] <Healot> really, how lucky are you, shukhrat ?
[03:55] <shukhrat> soundray ufo successful
[03:55] <Rug> what channel can I talk about dapper questions/issues?
[03:56] <shukhrat> is that you AtaEnglish? Healot?
[03:56] <soundray> gnomefreak: sorry, wrong info
[03:56] <soundray> gnomefreak: the binary is in /usr/games/3Dc
[03:56] <Enthusiast78> Rubin, That's #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <soundray> Rug, #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <Rug> thanks
[03:57] <Paedrigh> soundray: I don't know, I'm such a nwbie
[03:57] <Healot> I am Healot, the greatest Wizard of all :)
[03:58] <shukhrat> soundray i did dpkg now i have three apache-common survived!
[03:59] <gnomefreak> that command doesnt show anything :( i ooked manually and i can find it
[03:59] <gnomefreak> s/ooked/looked
[04:01] <shukhrat> guys, how to remove folder or a file from terminal?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: rm
[04:02] <shukhrat> gnomefreak could u give me full syntax
[04:02] <thrice`> or rm -r for folder
[04:02] <soundray> Paedrigh: what live version do you have?
[04:02] <thrice`> rm file; rm -rf folder
[04:02] <gnomefreak> rm /path/to/file   rm -r /path/to/folder
[04:02] <Paedrigh> soundray: the one from yesterday
[04:02] <soundray> shukhrat: well, you didn't uninstall apache-common, did you?
[04:03] <zarephath> I am using zoneedit for my domain name since I have a dynamic ip from my ISP...if I want to setup mail server, etc..then I can just use the name servers for zoneedit and I should still be able to route for internet connectivity?
[04:03] <soundray> Paedrigh: I reckon you've found a bug, then.
[04:03] <shukhrat> soundray, do i need apache common for apache2?
[04:03] <Paedrigh> Wow
[04:04] <soundray> shukhrat: I don't know. Try 'sudo apt-get -s remove apache-common' (-s for simulate).
[04:05] <shukhrat> soundray ok
[04:05] <soundray> zarephath: I don't think you can. Not sure about zoneedit, but dyndns provide a 'mx' option for such cases.
[04:05] <shukhrat> soundray: i successfully uninstalled
[04:05] <lafferpt> what is imap?
[04:06] <heyjoe2> whats the best app for converting audio formats, including wma and mp3?
[04:06] <soundray> Paedrigh: are you evaluating Ubuntu for possible production use? If you do, I would go for a breezy live CD.
[04:06] <nalioth> heyjoe2: use audacity
[04:06] <heyjoe2> cheers
[04:06] <shukhrat> soundray, sorry but dpkg still showing apache common
[04:06] <shukhrat> should remove -s
[04:06] <soundray> lafferpt, a mail retrieval protocol, more complex than pop3.
[04:06] <zarephath> soundray: Ok thanks...
[04:06] <shukhrat> *should I remove -s?
[04:06] <mivecz> DOes  anyone know  i want a  dvd player for  play  movies  how i get it
[04:06] <mivecz> DOes  anyone know  i want a  dvd player for  play  movies  how i get it
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mivecz about dvd
[04:07] <soundray> shukhrat: if you want to actually do it, then yes.
[04:07] <zarephath> mivecz: /msg ubotu restricted formats
[04:07] <shukhrat> soundray, i'm afraid maybe it is required by apache2. what do u think?
[04:07] <Healot> mivecz, buy a DVD player... kidding, you got choices from "vlc", "xine", "mplayer" or even "ogle"
[04:08] <gnomefreak> brb maybe smoke will help
[04:08] <joost> hi, i have a probl with my ubuntu... , im a real newbie... i keep running out of memory (have 256mbram) and apperiantly I dont have any swap... is there a way to create swap memory/partition post install? (without messing up m,y files?)
[04:08] <soundray> shukhrat: look at the output of the -s version of the remove command. It would tell you "removing apache2" if apache2 depended on apache-common.
[04:08] <soundray> shukhrat: other useful commands: apt-cache depends apache2 shows its dependencies.
[04:08] <Paedrigh> soundray: Nah, not really. I'm evaluating to see if it would be possible for me to leave windows behind. The goal is to learn enough about the system so that I eventually can persuade the school where I work to go opensource and leave microsoft behind
[04:09] <mivecz> to take  libdvdcss2 must put  a reposit  in sources list
[04:09] <mivecz> ?
[04:09] <soundray> Paedrigh: wow, there's something at stake here!
[04:09] <Paedrigh> soundray: it's not a very big school....
[04:09] <soundray> Paedrigh: for that kind of thorough evaluation, I would recommend a hard disk install, though.
[04:10] <mivecz> gnomefreak
[04:10] <Healot> mivecz, you can download libdvdcss2 from VLC's site
[04:10] <shukhrat> soundray, ok, i decided to remove apache common
[04:10] <bellis> Paedrigh, if you are interested, I helped convert some school districts in Ohio to running Linux in some of their labs
[04:10] <at> hey soundray why it it getting higlighted in my screen ?
[04:10] <Paedrigh> soundray: I suppose you are right.
[04:10] <Paedrigh> bellis: I am interested
[04:10] <at> when you said soemthing to Paedrigh it got higlighted i red
[04:10] <bellis> Paedrigh, I can share my experiences with you, pitfalls etc
[04:10] <mivecz> HERalot  VLC Site?
[04:10] <at> oh damn ...my handle is at !!!
[04:10] <soundray> at: Because there is a 'at' in 'that' ;)
[04:10] <at> dorry
[04:11] <Paedrigh> bellis: I am very interested
[04:11] <at> sorry* :)
[04:11] <soundray> at, don't be dorry ;)
[04:11] <AtaTurk> lol
[04:11] <bellis> Paedrigh, my email address is bellis@saberlogic.com, it will probably be a pretty big discussion and I would not like to spam the channel
[04:11] <joost> anybody? create swap partition  / file???
[04:11] <bellis> Paedrigh, if you drop me a line, I will tell you what I ran into
[04:11] <jordo23> Does KDE have an automatic updater like Gnome does in Ubuntu?
[04:11] <hackeron> is there a tool on the breezy/univerze/multiverse repositories to do video captures of the screen or part of the screen?
[04:11] <Paedrigh> bellis: I'll drop you a line in a few moments
[04:12] <bellis> Paedrigh, sounds good
[04:12] <soundray> joost: if you want a swap partition, you have to have free space on the HD.
[04:12] <joost> i got 3gb free soundray
[04:12] <joost> but i cant seem to cut my main partition in 2
[04:13] <GutterPunk> Errm, I just added the multiverse sources in sources.list, but I still can't find w32codecs?
[04:13] <soundray> joost: you can't while it's mounted. Maybe that's the problem.
[04:13] <mivecz> HEalot  VLC Site?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: are you sure its mulltiverse and not backports multiverse?
[04:13] <joost> but, if its not mounted... how can i work on it? ionly have 1 partition
[04:13] <noaXess> videolan.org
[04:13] <noaXess> VLC
[04:13] <joost> i can imagine unmounting would crash my system? (not sure though)
[04:14] <soundray> joost, boot off a live CD and repartition.
[04:14] <Healot> can't anybody Google nowadays?
[04:14] <soundray> joost, or do with a swap file.
[04:14] <shukhrat> Many Thanks For All
[04:14] <shukhrat> Bye
[04:14] <soundray> Healot, oh great wizard, help or shut up ;)
[04:14] <bellis> I am trying to setup a script to start on a terminal, so I edited inittab and changed "2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2" to "2:2345:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/print_display >&/dev/tty2" and it works, but when the system first starts the keyboard is funky and I have to go to that terminal and kill it and allow it to respawn before the keyboard works right again
[04:14] <joost> i got my cd's in NL, and am in Brazil now ;) so.. i think swap file would be a good idea?
[04:14] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, I have this line: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse, but also this one deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:14] <gnomefreak> Healot: they can they choose not to but isnt one of the rules to google first
[04:14] <shukhrat> soundray where are from &
[04:14] <shukhrat> *?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: thats the backports thats not multiverse
[04:15] <bellis> the script has a read line at the end of a while loop, anyone done anything like this?
[04:15] <Healot> I mean for website, etc... bla bla
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GutterPunk about multiverse
[04:15] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, so what am I missing?
[04:15] <soundray> joost: I'd have to google for it... Check the Ubuntu wiki perhaps. (nod to Healot).
[04:15] <joost> i search the wiki for swap, no results
[04:15] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: look at the pm that was sent to you it should have it listed in there
[04:15] <qwertyu>  hi there!
[04:15] <qwertyu> i need help!
[04:16] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, alright thanks
[04:16] <joost> and, google... some answers on linuxquestions, but dont understand much really
[04:16] <soundray> shukhrat: /whois soundray
[04:16] <joost> real n00b
[04:16] <Healot> then shall thou come to the great wizard :)
[04:16] <qwertyu> anyone willing to help me? i'm a newie here..
[04:16] <gnomefreak> it will be normal deb lines with the words universe and multiverse after them
[04:16] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[04:16] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:17] <qwertyu> ubotu: :-D
[04:17] <ubotu> qwertyu: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:17] <soundray> !bot
[04:17] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:17] <Healot> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse" << here is what I do on repos, one liner
[04:17] <soundray> joost, hold on, I'll have a quick look
[04:18] <joost> ok thx soundray
[04:18] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, it all looks fine
[04:18] <soundray> joost: now reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq (scroll down to point 6)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: paste your sources.list file into pastebin please
[04:19] <AngryElf> which package do I need to isntall mkinitrd??
[04:19] <chell> Hi. I've just installed multimedia codecs using the automatix script. I then opened Totem in order to play a DVD I've got on my NTFS partition (which I can access perfectly well). I tried to open the bup and ifo filem, no luck. The first VOB worked, it showed the menu but I couldn't use it, it just didn't react. Any idea what might solve this problem?
[04:19] <soundray> joost: can you follow those instructions?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> chell: please dont use automatix
[04:20] <joost> loading the page (intrernet slow here)
[04:20] <chell> Do you think that's the reason the DVD menu doesn't work?
[04:20] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/592692
[04:20] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[04:20] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:20] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, what rss reader and email client do you suggest?
[04:20] <ice-t> hi! can somebody tell me how to make a tomcat on my ubuntu-machine? i have apache2 already installed. are there some tutorials?
[04:20] <Healot> automatix is so dangerous, or shall I say buggy
[04:20] <joost> thx, soundray, i will go and give it a try
[04:20] <WhO_KnOwS> need some quick help with xserver - How do I install the cvs version of it?
[04:21] <soundray> automatix is great: it highlighted the need for easyubuntu :)
[04:21] <chell> So that's why DVD menus don't work?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: you need a # infront of the word deb on the very very first line and take the comments from lines 35 and 36 and add multiverse to those lines
[04:21] <Paedrigh> bellis: I have sent you an email.
[04:22] <gnomefreak> chell: that could be
[04:22] <funkyHat|away> eXistenZ, thunderbird
[04:22] <chell> dammit. That means I have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: i use sylpheed for my mail needs
[04:22] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, still no w32codecs...
[04:22] <Healot> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse" << here is what I do on repos, one liner
[04:23] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: did you save close run sudo apt-get update?
[04:23] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, yes
[04:23] <soundray> ice-t, have you installed the packages? (tomcat5, tomcat5-admin, tomcat5-webapps)
[04:23] <bellis> Paedrigh, okay, I will try to get a response back to you before the end of the day
[04:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GutterPunk about restricted
[04:23] <Healot> GutterPunk, "sudo apt-get update" first
[04:23] <GutterPunk> Healot, I did that
[04:23] <ice-t> soundray: i did not find any of these packages. mom, i will look again for them
[04:23] <soundray> ice-t: oops, sorry, those exist for dapper only at the moment.
[04:23] <nalioth> GutterPunk: simple instructions are on the wiki
[04:23] <Paedrigh> bellis: great
[04:24] <ice-t> <-- breezy badger
[04:24] <GutterPunk> yes I read them
[04:24] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I think there is something wrong with looking up the dns. It takes a relatively long time saying "looking up www...."
[04:24] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, Do you know what the problem might be?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: with what?
[04:24] <chell> Do I have to reinstall if automatix screwed up?
[04:24] <Davey> dammit, come along April, I want XGL :)
[04:24] <nalioth> chell: nope, just remove it
[04:24] <chell> what automatix?
[04:24] <GutterPunk> looks like the package disappeared. I just did a fresh install, I had w32codecs installed before
[04:24] <nalioth> chell: make sure you don't have any non official repos in your sources.list
[04:25] <ice-t> soundray: i do not know which packet i have to download on tomcat.apache.org
[04:25] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, firefox takes a long time looking up the dns saying, "looking up www..."
[04:25] <Healot> w32codecs in on the non-free section
[04:25] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: it didnt disappear
[04:25] <mahangu> gnomepart screwed up my partition table. if i re-install xp, will it be able to overwrite Ubuntu's boot record?
[04:25] <chell> What do I have to remove?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: what version of ff?
[04:25] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, 1.5
[04:25] <gnomefreak> chell: the automatix script
[04:25] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I think it's an IPv6 related stuff
[04:25] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: in breezy or dapper?
[04:26] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, breezy
[04:26] <chell> And then it will remove everything it ever installed?
[04:26] <GutterPunk> Healot, I have this line too: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free... that doesn't do apparently
[04:26] <Davey> mahangu: indeed it should
[04:26] <soundray> ice-t: it would be a lot easier if you could use Ubuntu packages. You don't want to test the prerelease version of Ubuntu, by any chance?
[04:26] <fade_> can anybody help?
[04:26] <Healot> i think they removed it, anyway you can dowload it at xinehq.de
[04:26] <gnomefreak> chell: i dont know but its installable if it helps your system from breaking
[04:26] <ice-t> soundray: how should i come to deb-packets?
[04:26] <nalioth> chell: it's not the programs it installs, it's how it changes your system to install them
[04:26] <soundray> !helpme
[04:26] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:26] <Healot> what you need that for? anyways
[04:27] <eXistenZ> Can anyone forward me to the skype installation guide?
[04:27] <soundray> !skype
[04:27] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:27] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: i think its in seveas repos
[04:27] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: did you try IPv4?
[04:27] <chell> So an actual reinstall may be the fastest and best solution here?
[04:28] <the_mr_bong_show> hello
[04:28] <the_mr_bong_show> any one here
[04:28] <fade_> how i can install drivers for nVidia 6600?
[04:28] <ice-t> !helpme
[04:28] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:28] <gnomefreak> chell: dont know never used it (i find it easier to install everything the old fashion way)
[04:28] <soundray> ice-t, they are in the dapper repositories. I reckon you could download the dapper sources and make your own breezy packages.
[04:28] <zarephath> fade_: /msg ubotu nvidia and it will help you out
[04:28] <ice-t> Did you get hit by a windmill? <-- lol
[04:28] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one help me get in to yahoo chat rooms
[04:28] <fade_> zarephath thanks
[04:29] <fade_>  /msg ubotu nvidia
[04:29] <chell> Or is there any package that needs to be installed in order to get menus of commercial dvds to work in totem?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fade_ about nvidia
[04:29] <gnomefreak> fade_: its sent to your pm
[04:29] <zarephath> fade_: np..thank gnomefreak he is the one who taught me about it :-)
[04:29] <Healot> libdvdcss2 >> chell, get it from VLC site (32bit only)
[04:29] <gnomefreak> ;)
[04:29] <Skenvoy> hi, my friend is having trouble with his laptop - sound plays with what sounds like noise throughout - intel hda audio
[04:29] <nalioth> chell: you are fine, you haven't totally botched your system.
[04:29] <Skenvoy> clicks/pops in any and all audio
[04:29] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one help me get in to yahoo chat rooms
[04:30] <chell> I hope so
[04:30] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show: we are not on yahoo
[04:30] <Healot> libdvdcss2 works out fine with VLC, totem, xine...
[04:30] <ice-t> libdvdcss2 is easily found on google
[04:30] <chell> I tried to install libdvdcss2 via pat
[04:30] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, what's the line for the seveas repo?
[04:30] <chell> apt
[04:30] <the_mr_bong_show> i know but i want to get in to yahoo chat rooms
[04:30] <ice-t> btw ;)
[04:30] <gnomefreak> !libdvdcss
[04:30] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:30] <GutterPunk> ah look :)
[04:30] <gnomefreak> ;)
[04:31] <soundray> ice-t: have you seen http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware ?
[04:31] <cubicool> Is anyone else getting a jacked-up X cursor w/ Dapper?
[04:31] <joost> soundray thanks, that did the trick!
[04:31] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: after the word packages put a space than the word all
[04:31] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one help me get java to work for firefox
[04:31] <cadfix> hello everybody
[04:31] <gnomefreak> cubicool: no but you can try 3ubuntu+! for dapper related issues
[04:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell the_mr_bong_show about javadebs
[04:31] <cadfix> i'm new in ubuntu
[04:31] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:32] <ice-t> soundray: i did see this on the german wiki ;)
[04:32] <chell> I'll try it with VLC first then
[04:32] <soundray> joost, well done.
[04:32] <gnomefreak> cadfix: ask you question and we will see if we can help
[04:32] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, that's it :D great thanks all
[04:32] <ice-t> soundray: but is this no problem when i install software from dapper in my breezy? i mean because of the dependencies
[04:32] <Healot> being new or newbie doesn't really matter, just ask a question and someone wILL answer your question :)
[04:32] <gnomefreak> ice-t: it can cause issues
[04:33] <cubicool> gnomefreak:  3ubuntu+!   ?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> can/will
[04:33] <gnomefreak> cubicool: #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <Skenvoy> hi, my friend is having trouble with his laptop - sound plays with what sounds like noise throughout - intel hda audio / alsa
[04:33] <ice-t> (i hope my english is not too bad)
[04:33] <GutterPunk> Argghhhh, 403 forbidden
[04:33] <gnomefreak> oh yeah still down huh
[04:33] <the_mr_bong_show> i know i can enable java for firefox in the package manager
[04:33] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i
[04:34] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GutterPunk about seveas
[04:34] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: the best solution for java is to follow the sun java install section of the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:34] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: read your priv msg from ubotu
[04:34] <soundray> ice-t, your English is ganz prima. Installing dapper packages in breezy will cause you more problems than installing dapper outright...
[04:34] <gnomefreak> gutter on that site add the last one its playboy or something like that and put the word all after packages
[04:35] <brunner-wk> anyone know of a browser (that supports graphics) for windows or linux that will allow one to print from the command line without requiring user-interaction?
[04:35] <chell> well, I think it's time for a reinstall...
[04:35] <cadfix> does somebody know which file should I edit in order to set environment variables throught the reboot?
[04:35] <nalioth> chell: that is entirely up to you. there is no need.
[04:35] <ice-t> =), well. i think i will download somethin from tomcat.apache.org and then i will see...
[04:35] <ice-t> ok, thank you soundray :)
[04:35] <chell> Well, I tried VLC, it's ugly
[04:35] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:35] <chell> and didn't work still no working menu
[04:35] <ice-t> chell: but it works ;)
[04:35] <gnomefreak> doesnt vlc have skins?
[04:36] <chell> On os x vlc looks great
[04:36] <soundray> ice-t, also check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware -- what's missing in there, though, is apt-get source
[04:36] <nalioth> chell: dvd menus in what?
[04:36] <soundray> ice-t, do you know about apt-get source ?
[04:36] <defrysk> chell, tells you how ugly osx is ;p
[04:36] <chell> I have a VIDEO_TS folder
[04:36] <chell> on my hard drive
[04:36] <chell> I would like to play the DVD
[04:36] <chell> I tried opening it in totem - no luck.
[04:36] <chell> VLC - the same
[04:37] <ice-t> soundray: no i don't. i do not download the source from the repos. and i have commented it out in the sources.list
[04:37] <Sille|BNC12> Frauen und Mnner ohne Finanziele interessen auf dem server irc.chillirc.de in dem channel chillirc Hafe Fun Join Now wir sind noch klein und Freuen und auf jeden User
[04:37] <nalioth> chell: have you installed libdvdread and libdvdcss2 /
[04:37] <chell> yes I think so
[04:37] <ice-t> soundray: i am not that good in compiling linux -.-
[04:38] <eXistenZ> the seavseas repos doesn't work here
[04:38] <chell> Well, shouldn't automatix have done that for me?
[04:38] <cadfix> gnomefreak, do you know which file should I edit in order to set environment variables throught the reboot?
[04:38] <ice-t> chell: xine -dvd:/home/blub/ ore something like this
[04:38] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:38] <nalioth> chell: for all this time you've spend getting automatix to "not" work, you could have enabled these things by reading the wiki
[04:39] <nalioth> !dvd
[04:39] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:39] <pchapman> hello
[04:39] <soundray> ice-t: if you can live with an unstable & still buggy system, your best bet is to upgrade to dapper. I'll have a quick look at upstream, though. Hold on...
[04:40] <ice-t> soundray: oh, no i do not have a flatrate. this would explode my data-transfer-limit
[04:40] <chell> I tell you what... I'll reinstall my ubuntu then I'll try and do everything myself (I don't trust easyUbuntu either - could screw up)
[04:40] <pchapman> on a new install, apt-get install java-package fakeroot can't find package java-package
[04:40] <pchapman> I can't even apt-get install emacs
[04:40] <pchapman> is there something in apt that needs to be enabled?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> pchapman: what kind of output are you getting?
[04:40] <nalioth> chell: actually easyubuntu has ubuntu devs involved. automatix is written by one guy
[04:41] <chell> So I can trust easyubuntu?
[04:41] <pchapman> gnomefreak, just that it can't find the package
[04:41] <ice-t> pchapman: you have to activate the repositorys in the sources.list
[04:41] <nalioth> chell: it is best to do it from the wiki. you learn stuff that way (and it doesnt take that long, either)
[04:41] <chell> all right
[04:41] <chell> will do that then
[04:41] <chell> But first - reinstall. See you guys later then... bye
[04:42] <gnomefreak> pchapman: you need to go into /etc/apt/sources.list and take the # away from the repos with the word deb starting them and put a # on the very first line that has cdrom in it
[04:42] <pchapman> gnomefreak, thanks.
[04:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:42] <bretzel> Hi there :-)
[04:43] <Davey> OK, my USB HDD just lost power, now I no longer see it mounted now its back
[04:43] <pchapman> gnomefreak, the dep ones seem to be enabled.
[04:43] <pchapman> such as deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:43] <pchapman> ^^ that's not commented out
[04:43] <gnomefreak> pchapman: the very first line does it have the # infront of it?
[04:43] <pchapman> no
[04:43] <bretzel> Ubuntu/Dapper/xfce4: They've done great job!!!
[04:43] <crusso> Greetings
[04:44] <pchapman> gnomefreak, is there a command I have to run to initialize a cache?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> pchapman: put one there and take the # away from the rest with the word deb
[04:44] <tristan_> Ho can I install a package with dpkg in a specific folder?
[04:44] <crusso> Anyone successful installing Ubuntu on an Apple clamshell iBook?  I'm experiencing the oft-reported "nothing happens, black screen on login" problem... I haven't found any solutions to it.
[04:44] <gnomefreak> dpkg will install it where it needs it
[04:45] <tristan_> gnomefreak, but I woild like to specify an installation folder
[04:45] <nalioth> crusso: have you tried "server install" ?
[04:45] <soundray> ice-t: my dapper upgrade download was less than 1GB on a fairly complete system...
[04:45] <gnomefreak> tristan_: man dpkg
[04:45] <crusso> nalioth: no... I haven't tried it or seen that suggestion.
[04:46] <crusso> Any idea why that may help?
[04:46] <hinkebo> HELLO
[04:46] <bolrod> WORLD
[04:46] <soundray> ice-t: from looking at the Apache Tomcat pages, it appears to be a fairly complex project to install.
[04:46] <soundray> Sorry ice-t, have to go...
[04:47] <hinkebo> I have some mounring problems in Ubuntu. Can anyone in here help me? Any Swedish-talking person...?
[04:47] <nalioth> crusso: the clamshell is kinda old, i recommend either gaining a terminal in your current setup and installing xubuntu-desktop, or reinstalling the server-install and then installing xubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <ice-t> hmm
[04:48] <Healot> !svensk
[04:48] <ubotu> Healot: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:48] <Healot> !svenska
[04:48] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[04:48] <hinkebo> Svensk?
[04:48] <kigh_> de
[04:48] <hinkebo> neee
[04:48] <crusso> nalioth: when you say "gaining a terminal", do you mean just using the clamshell as a terminal?
[04:48] <tituxx> hallo
[04:48] <pchapman> gnomefreak, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/315
[04:48] <nalioth> crusso: is your clamshell running now? at the 'black screen' ?
[04:48] <tituxx> Hi I am a NOOB in LINUX
[04:48] <tituxx> I have started right now
[04:49] <Mika_i> hinkebo: i understand swedish but i dont want anymore speak it because sweden won olympic icehockey final ;)
[04:49] <Healot> tituxx, we don't really care. just ask the question
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Can I install my ATI drivers on the winxp VMware? Cause now the mouse doesnt work like it should, and everythings kinda ... bad ...
[04:49] <crusso> nalioth: put it in the closet.  getting it now
[04:49] <tituxx> men d kan vi snacka swe
[04:49] <hinkebo> vi.. va?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> pchapman: you still havent put the # in line one or taken the rest away
[04:49] <tituxx> kan ngon hjlpa mig?
[04:49] <hinkebo> Kanske
[04:49] <nalioth> tituxx: join #ubuntu-se please
[04:49] <pchapman> gnomefreak, ok
[04:49] <hinkebo> Kan nn hjlpa mig kanske..
[04:50] <gnomefreak> pchapman: ok here in line 1 put a # at the very begging of it
[04:50] <siso> ciao
[04:50] <tituxx> Jag r Noob p Linux och anvnder den fr frsta gngen
[04:50] <gnomefreak> opcon lines 20 29 30 35 36 take the # away from them
[04:50] <mivecz> gnomefreak No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:/)
[04:50] <nalioth> tituxx: english here, swedish in #ubuntu-se, please
[04:50] <tituxx> du har vll Linux?
[04:50] <hinkebo> tituxx: ok, vad var ditt problem? kanske kan hjlpa dig.
[04:50] <hinkebo> jag har linux :)
[04:50] <tituxx> bra
[04:50] <thrice`> hinkebo, stop with the swedish, please
[04:50] <defrysk> !no
[04:50] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[04:51] <Healot> mivecz, need "gstreamer-mpeg2dec"
[04:51] <gnomefreak> pchapman: also on lines 35 and 36 add the word multiverse at the end
[04:51] <defrysk> !norge
[04:51] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[04:51] <Healot> and some other plugins
[04:51] <tituxx> kan man prata med 1 pers t gngen?
[04:51] <hinkebo> ja
[04:51] <gnomefreak> mivecz: i dont have the first clue what you are talking about please explain more
[04:51] <Healot> yes
[04:51] <nalioth> hinkebo: english here please, swedish in #ubuntu-se
[04:51] <mivecz> i try  to  see a dvd:P
[04:51] <thrice`> !tell mivecz about dvd
[04:51] <pchapman> gnomefreak, and uncomment 35 and 36?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> pchapman: yes and add multiverse to the end
[04:52] <gnomefreak> mivecz: please read the wiki ubotu sent you
[04:52] <Paedrigh> swedish in #ubuntu.se
[04:52] <Healot> "gstreamer0.8-a52dec", "gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec" >> install these first... or all the gstreamer plugins, mivecz
[04:52] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[04:52] <gypsymauro> hello
[04:53] <gypsymauro> someone is able to use gmailfs on dapper?
[04:53] <linuxboyfriend> is it necessary to have a 3D card for xgl
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Healot: i think gstreamer-mad is needed also
[04:53] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know how I can fix the mouse and screen res and so on in VMware (winxp)? It cant find my ATI card, so I cant install those video drivers
[04:53] <gypsymauro> I tried to download the newest version but I can't login
[04:53] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes
[04:53] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hi
[04:53] <gnomefreak> gypsymauro:  try #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <Healot> yes... or ALL the other gstreamer plugins would help... totem+gstreamer suck
[04:53] <tituxx> hr igen
[04:53] <tituxx> s
[04:53] <hinkebo> wuut it doesen't work and i caaaaaa(oops)n't speak english because i'm dumb like a dummy.
[04:53] <tituxx> swe?
[04:53] <thewayofzen> Is anyone running XFCE from the repos in dapper
[04:53] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: hi and glx questions should be in #ubuntu-glx
[04:53] <tituxx> Help
[04:53] <thrice`> titanium, you are in the wrong channel; join #ubuntu-se
[04:54] <nalioth> tituxx: #ubuntu-se
[04:54] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[04:54] <thrice`> tituxx, *
[04:54] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:54] <tituxx> how to join?
[04:54] <Paedrigh> tituxx: swedish in #ubuntu.se
[04:54] <hinkebo> unubtu-se don't working!
[04:54] <tituxx> I am a NOOB
[04:54] <Mirv> have there been any recent breezy -> dapper upgraders whose sound is totally broken?
[04:54] <hinkebo> i have tried
[04:54] <AtaTurk> flu to #ubuntu-se please .... /join #channelname
[04:54] <nalioth> tituxx: type /j #ubuntu-se
[04:54] <gnomefreak> tituxx: type /j #ubuntu-se
[04:54] <Paedrigh> tituxx: klicka p den bl frgen #ubuntu.se
[04:54] <ccc_> it's #ubuntu.se, not #ubuntu-se ;)
[04:54] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:54] <Mirv> [4294682.258000]  snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[04:54] <Mirv> [4294682.258000]  snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_info_unregister
[04:54] <Mirv> [4294682.272000]  snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[04:54] <Mirv> [4294682.272000]  snd_rawmidi: Unknown symbol snd_seq_device_new
[04:54] <GnarusLeo> omg ..
[04:54] <hinkebo> ok i try again
[04:54] <Mirv> stuff like that all over
[04:54] <Healot> I think most Scandinavians can speak English well?
[04:54] <tituxx> var?
[04:55] <mivecz> HEalot gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[04:55] <Paedrigh> nalioth: its not ubuntu-se it is ubuntu.se
[04:55] <thrice`> titanium, #ubuntu.se
[04:55] <mivecz> HEalot gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec not found
[04:55] <nalioth> Paedrigh: wonder when they changed it. . . .
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Mirv: dapper related questions join #ubuntu+1 and please dont paste in there either
[04:55] <Paedrigh> dunno
[04:55] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[04:55] <Healot> !tell mivecz about repos
[04:55] <ccc_> !se
[04:55] <ubotu> se is, like, totally, Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[04:55] <Mirv> gnomefreak: yeah, I thought 4 lines is not too much, but I'll use pastebin
[04:55] <hinkebo> tituxx: Skriv in /join #ubuntu.se i den frsta rutan lr vad den kallas. ok
[04:55] <gnomefreak> mivecz: no pasting at all please read /topic
[04:56] <tituxx> www.ubuntu.se????
[04:56] <nalioth> tituxx: type /j #ubuntu.se
[04:56] <gnomefreak> tituxx: type /j #ubuntu-se
[04:56] <aroticoz> can anyone help me install maya7.0 on ubuntu 5.10
[04:56] <hinkebo> tituxx: nej i den frsta rutan exactly as above :)
[04:57] <defrysk> !se
[04:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, se is Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[04:58] <GnarusLeo> tituxx just played dumb from the moment he joined channel ..
[04:58] <GnarusLeo> ignored
[04:58] <Healot> damn, I know you Swedish can speak English better than me...
[04:58] <Healot> you just playing aren't you?
[04:58] <Paedrigh> one wonders
[04:58] <defrysk> Healot, one wonders indeed
[04:58] <gnomefreak> its  a.
[04:59] <aroticoz> can anyone help me install maya7.0 on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:59] <djk_> is there a simple way i can download certain packages with all their dependencies, without installing them, then burn them and install them on a pc with a fresh kubuntu installation. the pc which would be used to download the packages runs kubuntu, but not a fresh installation
[05:00] <Healot> who wonders...
[05:00] <GnarusLeo> djk_, just get the .deb packages of the packages you want
[05:00] <Healot> aroticoz, what's the exact problem, no debian package? need compiling?
[05:00] <nalioth> djk_: if you type "apt-get --help" or "man apt-get" there is a switch to download only
[05:00] <aroticoz> I installed it, but when I run it it tells me that it can't find maya's resource file
[05:00] <djk_> GnarusLeo: that wouldn't take care of the dependencies
[05:01] <GnarusLeo> no, it wouldnt .. sorry, tired :)
[05:01] <Healot> aroticoz, okay, i think it is rather the installer's fault... not really ubuntu-specific...
[05:01] <aroticoz> hmmm
[05:01] <aroticoz> so you suggest I try agian?
[05:01] <Healot> did you read the FAQ/wiki/doc about installing maya on most GNU/Linux?
[05:02] <djk_> nalioth: but that will not take care of all the dependencies either or will it?
[05:02] <GnarusLeo> djk_, apt-get -d install (package) will get you to download only
[05:02] <GnarusLeo> DJ_t, or without the install
[05:03] <Healot> one more question, is the installer a debian package or simply a tarball?
[05:03] <pr3vi0uz> question
[05:03] <aroticoz> it's rpm
[05:03] <crusso> nalioth: Okay, booted up the clamshell and tried to log in... I heard the login tune, but now the screen is black.
[05:03] <pr3vi0uz>   whats the command again for mounting  a hard drive
[05:03] <Healot> aroticoz, did you "alien" it?
[05:03] <aroticoz> yeah
[05:03] <nalioth> djk_: there is an apt program that does what you want, i just can't remember the name of it
[05:03] <aroticoz> I installed it
[05:04] <GnarusLeo> pr3vi0uz, mount?
[05:04] <djk_> GnarusLeo: yea i know that option.. but afaik, that way i'll only get the dependencies needed to install them on this pc, the one with the not-so-fresh kubuntu.
[05:04] <aroticoz> but it gives me this error when I start it
[05:04] <Healot> oh...
[05:04] <OConnor> I'm shoot the sheriff...
[05:04] <marlun> Which packages do I need to be able to use a remote svn serveR? (checkout/checkin etc)
[05:04] <Healot> I think you missed some extra files/packages... aroticoz
[05:04] <nalioth> crusso: type ctrl-alt-f2 and see if you can get a terminal
[05:04] <heyjoe2> i installed lame from synaptic but audacity isnt recognizing it. anyone give me a clue why?
[05:04] <GnarusLeo> djk_, well, which dependencies you want depends on which packages are installed on your current distro. Thats the way it is
[05:04] <heyjoe2> please can someone help me
[05:04] <tituxx> HELLO WORLD
[05:04] <aroticoz> thanks Healot, I'll try another installation
[05:04] <Healot> which i don't know what... you really need to get back to the dl site...
[05:04] <pr3vi0uz> im trying too detect my windows drive ?
[05:04] <crusso> got it
[05:05] <tituxx> any from sweden???
[05:05] <djk_> GnarusLeo: of course.. that's why i asked if there is a way to do what i want
[05:05] <OConnor> smoke mari-juana
[05:05] <GnarusLeo> djk_, then of course theres not
[05:05] <djk_> nalioth: does this program exist in the repos?
[05:05] <nalioth> crusso: from the terminal, type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" if you are running (or tried to install) breezy
[05:05] <Paedrigh> tituxx: Yes, but go to #ubuntu.se
[05:05] <tituxx> HALLO
[05:05] <OConnor> what do you thinks?
[05:05] <tituxx> I've forgotten hov
[05:05] <Paedrigh> tituxx: Yes, but go to #ubuntu.se
[05:05] <Paedrigh> tituxx: Yes, but go to #ubuntu.se
[05:05] <Paedrigh> tituxx: Yes, but go to #ubuntu.se
[05:05] <nalioth> tituxx: in #ubuntu.se are swedish people. type /j #ubuntu.se
[05:05] <mivecz> Healot is the same  provlem
[05:05] <tituxx> how?
[05:06] <OConnor> hin?
[05:06] <GnarusLeo> PLEASE ignore tituxx ...
[05:06] <tituxx> how?
[05:06] <Paedrigh> type /j #ubuntu.se
[05:06] <Paedrigh> and press 'enter'
[05:06] <Healot> mivecz, i suggest you get "vlc" or "xine"... much less work to do, but bigger file size :)
[05:07] <mivecz> i donwload  now xinew
[05:07] <mivecz> gxine
[05:07] <Healot> yeah, gxine...
[05:07] <Healot> much better choice...
[05:07] <Trinitrogen> I have to reinstall XP on another partition, and I know its going to clobber grub. Whats the easiest way to resinstall it into my MBR?
[05:07] <crusso> nalioth: says it can't find a "xubuntu-desktop"... however "ubuntu-desktop" it knows about and says I already have the latest version.
[05:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Trinitrogen about recover
[05:08] <Healot> grub can be install by running the install CD... Trinitrogen
[05:08] <nalioth> crusso: type 'cat /etc/issue' and let me know if it says anything
[05:08] <GnarusLeo> Trinitrogen, the best way is to first install XP, then grub will find XP and put it in MBR choise
[05:08] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you'd need ops in that channel to invite
[05:08] <gnomefreak> oh darn
[05:08] <cvtboudreaux> I dont like grub screwing with the MBR
[05:08] <Paedrigh> word
[05:09] <GnarusLeo> what happened to lilo? :) I used that before
[05:09] <crusso> nalioth: "Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[05:09] <gnomefreak> cvtboudreaux: what would you rather have screw with the mbr?
[05:09] <Healot> i mean you can re-install/reconfigure grub with the install CD...
[05:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crusso about sources
[05:09] <Trinitrogen> !recover
[05:09] <ubotu> somebody said recover was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:09] <Paedrigh> can one avoid installing Grub?
[05:09] <nalioth> crusso: use nano from your terminal to enable universe and multiverse on your clamshell (see the PM ubotu just sent)
[05:09] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: lilo is installable in ubuntu but not default
[05:10] <cvtboudreaux> I have Breezy on another harddrive and have it loaded with boot.ini
[05:10] <nalioth> crusso: is your clamshell connected to the net right now?
[05:10] <crusso> nalioth: Okay.  Thanks for the help.
[05:10] <Neon_Tiger> You can boot Ubuntu with NTLDR
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Neon_Tiger: there are alot of boot apps you can choose from
[05:10] <mivecz> Healot  gxine  plugin missing
[05:10] <crusso> nalioth: yes, it is
[05:10] <Trinitrogen> With recover, its not going to mess with my Current Ubuntu install is it?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> bootloaders
[05:10] <Neon_Tiger> NTLDR is the Windows XP one
[05:10] <cvtboudreaux> does anyone know if dapper drake will support usb wireless more? Like a rt2500 chipset
[05:10] <nalioth> crusso: once you enable universe and multiverse, run "sudo apt-get update"
[05:10] <GnarusLeo> Trinitrogen, no, you can set up just grub
[05:11] <crusso> Okay, will do.
[05:11] <nalioth> cvtboudreaux: the rt2500 is supported now
[05:11] <cadfix> tanks
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Neon_Tiger: yes i know and if done right yes you can
[05:11] <mivecz> wait i  find smt
[05:11] <Neon_Tiger> gnomefreak: I still prefer Grub tho :)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> grub rules ;)
[05:11] <Trinitrogen> Just to make sure, whats the way to find out whats the partition my installs on? I think its hda6 but Im not sure...
[05:12] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ --- mivecz, take a look at dependecies of any standard ubuntu package here...
[05:12] <cvtboudreaux> with breezy i could never get my usb wireless to work. Im a newbie of course
[05:12] <nalioth> Trinitrogen: in a terminal, type "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:12] <Healot> USB wireless are the worse kind of hardware you couldever use for GNU/Linux
[05:12] <Neon_Tiger> Trinitrogen: or just type df -h
[05:13] <mivecz> i  install gxine  plugin
[05:13] <mivecz> same error
[05:13] <mahangu__> if i install xp now, will it be able to write to the MBR? or has ubuntu overwritten that?
[05:13] <cvtboudreaux> well i know that now, just really started getting into linux and never had probs with it before
[05:13] <nalioth> mahangu__: XP will overwrite your mbr
[05:13] <gnomefreak> mahangu__: xp will write over the mbr
[05:13] <GnarusLeo> mahangu__, xp overwrites MBR auto ..
[05:14] <Neon_Tiger> heh
[05:14] <mahangu__> lol
[05:14] <Healot> noobs should really take a good note of this site http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - it may solve all your dependency problems
[05:14] <GnarusLeo> mahangu__, but you can use your ubuntu boot cd to rewrite MBR
[05:14] <defrysk>  xp overwrites mbr without asking
[05:14] <fade_> !helpme
[05:14] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:14] <gnomefreak> mahangu__: alot of work to get grub back :(
[05:14] <highvoltage> Healot: noobs should really just stick to synaptic ;)
[05:14] <fade_> !helpme change screen resolution
[05:14] <ubotu> fade_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:14] <mahangu__> nalioth, i played with gnome partition manager, and now i want to take one of my ext3s back to fat32, and Partition Magic wont allow it
[05:15] <Healot> no they CAN
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fade_ about fixres
[05:15] <pr3vi0uz> hello im trying too mount/dev/hda how would i go by doing this
[05:15] <GnarusLeo> pr3vi0uz, man mount
[05:15] <Healot> CAN'T stick to synaptic... if they can actually use it :)
[05:15] <nalioth> mahangu: back up your data, format and replace the data
[05:15] <gnomefreak> fade_: ubotu is a bot please dont play with him ask in channel and we can help you
[05:15] <highvoltage> Healot: good point
[05:15] <GnarusLeo> pr3vi0uz, it depends wheter its a NTFS, FAT, EXT3 ++
[05:15] <sistema> hola a todos hablan espa?ol
[05:15] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:15] <mahangu> nalioth, yeah im gonna do that. i take it there is no easier way though?
[05:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <defrysk> !es
[05:15] <nalioth> not really, mahangu
[05:16] <Healot> GUI tool or not... you must actually know how to use first, bleh :)
[05:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fade_ about fixres
[05:16] <crusso> nalioth: Unfortunately, those guides all use GUI... which I don't have at the moment.  I'm googling for how to do the same thing without the GUI.  (looks like you're busy. :)
[05:16] <mahangu> nalioth, because i, like an idiot, gave linux a HUGE logical partition, when in fact, it needs less than windows
[05:16] <nalioth> crusso: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[05:16] <GnarusLeo> can one install VMware-tools on the VMware-player?
[05:16] <pr3vi0uz>  ITS ntfs
[05:16] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: there is no one at ubuntu-xgl
[05:16] <nalioth> mahangu: resize it with parted or a gui frontend of it
[05:16] <mahangu> nalioth, it wont let me
[05:16] <mahangu> parted at least
[05:16] <nalioth> mahangu: use a livecd
[05:17] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: try #glx-ubuntu
[05:17] <gnomefreak> there were 2 of them but i guess they combined
[05:17] <mivecz> i cant   run  dvd
[05:17] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok
[05:17] <Healot> no one runs DVD :)
[05:18] <Healot> they play it
[05:18] <pr3vi0uz> can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:18] <cvtboudreaux> ill be back
[05:18] <mahangu> nalioth, think that'll stop PM from complaining? or will i have to reinstall windows again anyway?
[05:18] <nalioth> mahangu: resizing your linux partition (shrink) and enlarging your windows partition should work fine
[05:18] <mivecz> domn
[05:18] <mivecz> done
[05:18] <mivecz> :P
[05:18] <mahangu> ok cool
[05:19] <mahangu> because PM on a live cd (boot cd) complains about the disk. will i damage my disk? will installing XP again be a better idea?
[05:19] <pr3vi0uz> when i do this command mount /dev/hda i get this error   can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:19] <eXistenZ> Can anyone recommend me a good lm-sensors interface
[05:19] <GnarusLeo> Where can I download vmware Tools???
[05:19] <nalioth> mahangu: the easiest way i know is to use an ubuntu liveCD to shrink your linux and enlarge your ntfs partition
[05:19] <Healot> /dev/hda - This is the disk it self, not the partition, pr3vi0uz
[05:20] <mahangu> ok cool
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eXistenZ about sensors
[05:20] <nalioth> eXistenZ: gkrellm, conky, and some *desklets
[05:20] <Healot> partitions are mark with device name plus some number "/dev/hda12" for example...
[05:21] <Healot> you can't mount the disk it self... pr3vi0uz
[05:23] <brandon> hi
[05:24] <Healot> hong kong is China :)
[05:27] <shreevatsa> when will shipit start offerring Dapper cds?
[05:28] <nalioth> shreevatsa: probably around april 20
[05:28] <shreevatsa> nalioth, oh, thanks
[05:28] <LKRaider> What will be the name of the release after Dappe Drake?
[05:29] <rookiehwm> me gets his magic 8 ball out
[05:29] <rookiehwm> erm
[05:29] <rookiehwm> wow
[05:29] <rookiehwm> it's just not as fun to make a smart remark if you mess it up.
[05:29] <defrysk>  LKRaider thats a surprise
[05:29] <defrysk> LKRaider, for now its dapper+1
[05:29] <sorin> Hi
[05:29] <LKRaider> defrysk : heh, okay :P
[05:30] <sorin> Sorry, I forgot the link to the mp3 codec installation information
[05:30] <LKRaider> defrysk : who chooses the names anyways?
[05:30] <defrysk> LKRaider, GOD
[05:30] <marlun> Which packages do I need to be able to use a remote svn serveR? (checkout/checkin etc) (sorry for the repost)
[05:30] <LKRaider> defrysk : I'll pray then :P
[05:30] <marlun> svn = subversion
[05:31] <shreevatsa> Musical mosquito
[05:31] <defrysk> !god
[05:31] <ubotu> defrysk: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:31] <nalioth> marlun: install subversion
[05:31] <defrysk> hmz :s
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sorin about mp3
[05:31] <bigfnpump> Hi can someone help me
[05:32] <Ethan> bigfnpump maybe, ask first
[05:32] <defrysk> !someone
[05:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:32] <bigfnpump> well it is a question about filezilla
[05:32] <Ethan> :(
[05:32] <LKRaider> !how to play mp3 in totem?
[05:32] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LKRaider
[05:32] <bigfnpump> I cant seem to get it to connect
[05:32] <LKRaider> ubotu is not much help :P
[05:32] <ubotu> LKRaider: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <Ethan> I hava another question : have can I burn a *.sfv with ubuntu? :p
[05:33] <Ethan> and is *.svf only for Cd, can it be for DVD too?
[05:33] <ccc_> ubotu: tell LKRaider about mp3
[05:34] <LKRaider> ccc_ : interesting, but why it didn't respond at first?
[05:34] <bigfnpump> guess no one can help
[05:34] <ratita> #ubuntu-es
[05:34] <nalioth> Ethan: sfv is for checking file integrity
[05:34] <ccc_> LKRaider: syntax error :)
[05:34] <LKRaider> ccc_ : good point :P
[05:35] <Ethan> that is right
[05:35] <Ethan> hum
[05:35] <sistema> hola alguien habla espa?ol
[05:35] <Ethan> in fact I have a *.rar but in many files
[05:35] <defrysk> !es
[05:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:36] <Ethan> and a svf but I don't know how to get the "full rar"
[05:36] <nalioth> Ethan: download "cksfv" and run it against your sfv file
[05:37] <nalioth> Ethan: er, use synaptic or apt to install chsfv
[05:37] <nalioth> blah, it's cksfv
[05:37] <Ethan> done anyway
[05:37] <Jarigo> hey im on dapper and i just attempted to resize my NTFS drive and umm It failed:| any ideas how to recover?
[05:38] <yggdrasil> can somone help me out with using bittornado from a console.. i just cant figure out wtf ... ?
[05:38] <nalioth> Jarigo: waht failed?
[05:38] <nalioth> yggdrasil: btdownloadcurses.py file.torrent
[05:38] <Jarigo> Resizing and recreating a new partition nalioth
[05:38] <nalioth> Jarigo: what part failed?
[05:38] <yggdrasil> naioth thanks
[05:38] <Jarigo> Resizing and recreating a new partition nalioth
[05:39] <nalioth> Jarigo: does your windows still boot?
[05:39] <Jarigo> havent tried
[05:39] <defrysk> yggdrasil, btdownloadgui.bittornado if you have bittornado installed
[05:39] <Jarigo> shall i try?
[05:39] <Bergcube> I fell a little bummed out...  I have read about bum ( http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html ) and as it looks like a relatively good idea I'd like to try it out. I find it in Synaptic, but there it says it conflicts with and replaces "ubm". Well, I've searched in Synaptic and cannot find ubm... So I guess I can ignore that, and tell Synaptic to go ahead and install bum. -Or am i wrong?...
[05:39] <Bergcube> ...Follow-up, is there any good reasons not to install bum?
[05:39] <Ethan> how do I use cksfv? :p
[05:39] <Ethan> I wrote cksfv *.sfv
[05:39] <Jarigo> nalioth, brb trying it.
[05:40] <Ethan> but it's weird lol
[05:40] <nalioth> Ethan: it should check all the files in the sfv for integrity
[05:40] <LKRaider> Bergcube : bum is pretty simple to use. Try it :)
[05:40] <Coli1> hi all
[05:40] <Ethan> oh there is a -h option :p
[05:41] <Coli1> how can I remove stuff from session options? I only have add, edit/delete are greyed out
[05:41] <Bergcube> LKRaider~ Thanks, I want to, so I think I will.  Just wnting to make sure it's not like jumping into shark-infested waters...   :-)
[05:41] <LKRaider> Colil : you have to first select an item
[05:41] <Coli1> I have
[05:41] <defrysk> Coli1, is it hightlighted ?
[05:42] <defrysk> -t
[05:42] <Coli1> yes
[05:42] <Coli1> but only add is available
[05:42] <defrysk> add to a highlighted object ?
[05:42] <Ethan> I have *.r** and I want to have my full *.rar, but I don't know how.... :(
[05:42] <defrysk> thats not possible
[05:42] <Coli1> that's what I thought
[05:43] <Coli1> but that's how it is
[05:43] <Jarigo> nalioth, no its undetected filesystem now...
[05:43] <defrysk> Coli1, screenshot to pastebin
[05:43] <Coli1> are sessions stored in a text file some place? so I can edit them wit hgedit or something?
[05:43] <nalioth> Jarigo: i suggest you try your process again from a liveCD
[05:44] <Jarigo> i do not have a live CD
[05:44] <heyjoe2> i have a problem with usb setup? could someone help me please?
[05:44] <hunger> Is there a mailclient that integrates well into gnome and does work well with maildirs?
[05:44] <Coli1> defrysk: pastebin?
[05:44] <defrysk> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:44] <Coli1> kk
[05:45] <heyjoe2> i have a problem with usb setup? could someone help me please?
[05:45] <Jarigo> nalioth, i got it back to ntfs
[05:45] <heyjoe2> what has happened is that suddenly ubuntu isnt recognizing my mp3 player drive
[05:46] <Jarigo> nalioth, its formatted my stuff...
[05:46] <heyjoe2> and im worried about losing data by constantly plugging/unplugging it
[05:46] <ubuntu> fuckers
[05:46] <nalioth> Jarigo: one should always back up before attempting partition changes
[05:46] <Jarigo> lolz heyjoe2 your worred about loosing your stuff? i just lost over 40 gb of data...
[05:46] <Jarigo> I Cant exactly put 40gb on a disk...
[05:47] <ubuntu28> why not?
[05:47] <heyjoe2> jarigo: tough break
[05:47] <ubuntu28> zip it
[05:47] <Jarigo> lmao
[05:47] <Jarigo> okay
[05:47] <Coli1> defrysk: posted, I think
[05:47] <Jarigo> 4gb DVD Disk
[05:47] <defrysk> Coli1, link ?
[05:47] <Jarigo> 40gb to fit on that?
[05:47] <Healot> x10
[05:47] <heyjoe2> anyone wanna help me avoid jarigos problem
[05:48] <ubuntu28> zip it
[05:48] <Jarigo> lmfao
[05:48] <Jarigo> :|
[05:48] <Jarigo> u cant
[05:48] <ubuntu28> crazy man
[05:48] <Jarigo> how u meant to zip 40gb in to 4gb?
[05:48] <ubuntu28> sure ya can
[05:48] <Coli1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9920
[05:48] <Jarigo> tis a lil hard mate.
[05:48] <ubuntu28> cloop
[05:48] <ubuntu28> try it
[05:48] <Jarigo> :|  I have no data left:|
[05:48] <ubuntu28> or well wait what are you burning?
[05:48] <Jarigo> nothing.
[05:48] <LKRaider> Jarigo : bring another HD, install as slave and backup there
[05:49] <s|k> is there a way I can create a shortcut to a directory?
[05:49] <s|k> for the desktop
[05:49] <heyjoe2> what has happened is that suddenly ubuntu isnt recognizing my mp3 player drive
[05:49] <Jarigo> i dont have any spare thats higher then 10gb...
[05:49] <XiCillin> is there a page that lists the changes to ubuntu in 6.10?
[05:49] <XiCillin> 6.04*
[05:49] <heyjoe2> can somone hlp me
[05:49] <ubuntu28> or spread over more then one dvd?
[05:49] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: Once it's out there will be
[05:49] <LKRaider> Jarigo : then you better not play with fire :P
[05:49] <defrysk> Coli1, that IS strange
[05:49] <ubuntu28> hmmmmm
[05:49] <Jarigo> 10 dvds...
[05:49] <ubuntu28> wait until u can get a 100 gb hard disk drive
[05:49] <Jarigo> well sevas said it was safe:S
[05:50] <ubuntu28> or get a lite iso as i assume thats what your doing
[05:50] <tristan_> I have installed a debian package but I don't know where it was installed. How can I know that?
[05:50] <XiCillin> Tomcat_: ok, i remember before they released 5.10 they had a page that had the changes made or something
[05:50] <Coli1> defrysk: yup, I entered those to commands the other way around, and they switched.. that's why I wanted to edit them
[05:50] <Ilokaaaasu> Anybody play steam games with new Wine ? If u would know answer to this "laggy mouse" problem ?
[05:50] <LKRaider> Jarigo : I performed this on my install (resizing ntfs) and all went well. But I still made backups.
[05:50] <Jarigo> I Couldnt make a back up!
[05:50] <ubuntu28> i hate wine i will never touch it again
[05:50] <defrysk> Coli1, i see
[05:50] <sorin> so i installed the mp3 package but the sound is jaggy
[05:50] <ubuntu28> also known as ubuntu29<<<<<
[05:51] <ubuntu28> see what i mean?
[05:51] <Coli1> defrysk: never mind, I'll dig around and see if I can edit them manually
[05:51] <defrysk> Coli1, but i dont know how to fix it unfortunately
[05:51] <Coli1> defrysk: no probs, thanks anyway
[05:51] <defrysk> !xgl
[05:51] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:52] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: Well there are pages that document planned changes and progress... want those?
[05:52] <tristan_> I have installed a debian package but I don't know where it was installed. How can I know that?
[05:52] <XiCillin> yea :)
[05:52] <ubuntu28> any one try LIDS ?
[05:53] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[05:53] <XiCillin> thanks
[05:53] <heyjoe2> why is ubuntu so temparemental and shit about usb devices
[05:53] <Healot> I am building my self a 64bit libdvdcss
[05:53] <heyjoe2> its almost enough to mention the w word
[05:53] <defrysk> tristan_, search in synaptic and look at the properties
[05:53] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: Oi... these are deferred...
[05:53] <ubuntu28> will ubuntu 6 come with the newset firfox?
[05:53] <Tomcat_> XiCillin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs <--- current one
[05:53] <ubuntu28> usb issues?
[05:53] <Tomcat_> ubuntu28: Pretty sure.
[05:54] <XiCillin> oh ok thank
[05:54] <ubuntu28> not sure why
[05:54] <ubuntu28> ok thanks
[05:55] <heyjoe2> my usb device is loading, but when i try to unmount it i get an error message. should i be concerned? how do i stop this error message. (note i am attempting to unmount by right clicking the volume and selecting unmount volume)
[05:56] <chris_> brb its being stupid messing with my default network...
[05:57] <heyjoe2> and now its gone
[05:59] <heyjoe2> anyone able/willing to help me with usb issues?
[06:01] <ubuntu28> there are no issues
[06:01] <ubuntu28> i use a usb mouse with no issues
[06:01] <heyjoe2> i use a usb mouse with no issues
[06:01] <heyjoe2> but my mp3 player and usb thumdrive work sporadically at best
[06:01] <ubuntu28> yeah so?
[06:02] <ubuntu28> wich ipod?
[06:02] <heyjoe2> nah its not an ipod
[06:02] <heyjoe2> its a teac mp3 player
[06:03] <ubuntu28> eww
[06:03] <mandavi> does easyubuntu work with dapper?
[06:03] <ubuntu28> ipod is better handles on linux
[06:03] <defrysk> mandavi,  no
[06:03] <GnarusLeo> Hi! why cant I use a bigger screen resolution? My card support up to 1200x (wxga) ... Its a HP pavilion Laptop with ATI-card
[06:03] <GnarusLeo> using breezer
[06:03] <ubuntu28> plus not sure if teac or whatever is flash or hard disk
[06:04] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection;
[06:04] <ubuntu28> using newset
[06:04] <ubuntu28> ipod is a better mp3 player
[06:04] <zygy> hi all
[06:04] <mandavi> defrysk: is there any other prog like it for dapper? like automatix or something else?
[06:04] <heyjoe2> ubuntu 28: using breezy and its a hard disk, not flash memory
[06:04] <nalioth> mandavi: dapper is not supported yet in easyubuntu
[06:04] <ubuntu28> ok
[06:04] <defrysk> mandavi, dont use that crap , it might break your os
[06:04] <ubuntu28> does it use mass storage?
[06:04] <heyjoe2> heyjoe2:its just a small 1.5gb mp3player, cheaper than ipod, but it works on winxp
[06:04] <ubuntu28> mass storage driver?
[06:04] <highvoltage> easybuntu and automatix should be avoided
[06:05] <ubuntu28> ipod is better
[06:05] <heyjoe2> obviously its better
[06:05] <defrysk> iaudio is better ;)
[06:05] <mandavi> you might be right, but it saves a BIG amount of time...
[06:05] <defrysk> mandavi, costs time if your os breaks down
[06:05] <Supervisor> I have a dial up at home so I need to download all my needed packages at work (where I have a windows box). Is there any way to get the url of the needed packages at home so that I can do the download at work, burn it on a CD and take it home?
[06:06] <heyjoe2> well if no-one can help me i might just try again tomorrow night
[06:06] <edgardo> Hola!
[06:06] <thierry> Supervisor : look at packages.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <defrysk> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:07] <Supervisor> So what thierry? It just gives me the name of the package. No URLs.
[06:07] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection;
[06:07] <varsendagger> hey i just got a nvidia gforce 5500 can i install it and will it work or do i need to reconfigure X?
[06:07] <mandavi> are there any recommended repos for dapper that i can run java, dvd and so on?
[06:07] <GnarusLeo> where is XF86Config??? Im trying to make ubuntu work with my widescreen monitor? or is there a better way?
[06:07] <thierry> Supervisor : wait, I'll check
[06:07] <defrysk> varsendagger, yes and no
[06:08] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: xorgconfig /etc/X11
[06:08] <Jarigo1> ffs
[06:08] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection;
[06:08] <defrysk> !nvidia
[06:08] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:08] <varsendagger> so it should work right out of the box?
[06:08] <edgardo> Qu quilombo! Me cago endios y en su puta madre!!
[06:08] <defrysk> varsendagger, read the link above
[06:08] <GnarusLeo> zarephath, whats that?
[06:08] <defrysk> varsendagger, ist easy to set up
[06:08] <Morfosomo> edgardo, massive swearing in spanish,. recomend he is removed
[06:09] <Morfosomo> !ops
[06:09] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:09] <GnarusLeo> zarephath, have no command called xorgconfig
[06:09] <defrysk> spanish swearing ...is that dangerous ?
[06:09] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: There is no XF86Config file...look where I told ya to look
[06:09] <ryanakca> anyone know how to make ubuntu/gnome look like macosx?
[06:09] <CrAzYoNi> Hi..
[06:09] <GnarusLeo> zarephath, I see .. but I still dont have xorgconfig
[06:09] <HymnToLife> GnarusLeo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <zarephath> It was pretty vulgar as well...
[06:09] <highvoltage> defrysk: if there's a possiblility of spanish kids in this channel, then yes
[06:09] <defrysk> highvoltage, true
[06:09] <highvoltage> defrysk: either way, it's not in line with Ubuntu CoC
[06:09] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection;
[06:09] <varsendagger> defrysk, should i install the drivers befor i install the card or after?
[06:09] <defrysk> true again
[06:10] <ryanakca> I've managed making kde look like macosx with a howto, but haven't managed to find one for gnome...
[06:10] <thierry> Supervisor : sorry I don't know, but I guess that this is going to be hard because of the dependencies of every packages, you would need to download hundreds of packages for maybe 3 main packages, the best way to do it is by apt-get
[06:10] <defrysk> varsendagger, after
[06:10] <BSDinux> change it in system->administration->network
[06:10] <CrAzYoNi> Might some body know where Ubuntu 5.10 - gnome, holds in it the picture of the Ubuntu logo + the word "Applications" of the Panel theme?
[06:10] <defrysk> varsendagger, and read that link ubotu gave
[06:10] <Supervisor> Thanks thierry
[06:10] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: Sorry wrong linux distro...however xorg.conf is where I stated...you can edit by hand if need be
[06:10] <GnarusLeo> zarephath, ok :) Where is this xorg.conf?
[06:11] <edgardo> Morfosomo, es un tefago que adora un fetiche patibulario.
[06:11] <BSDinux> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <HymnToLife> !ops
[06:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:11] <BSDinux> ?
[06:11] <kaos_> what package will install xorg and most of the things that go with it?
[06:12] <LKRaider> locate xorg.conf
[06:12] <BSDinux> xorg is the x-server
[06:12] <nalioth> HymnToLife: yes?
[06:12] <BSDinux> the graphical interface
[06:12] <zarephath> kaos_: apt-get install xorg
[06:12] <kaos_> will that install the fonts and all that?
[06:12] <BSDinux> you can reconfigurate it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:12] <HymnToLife> edgardo, massive swearing
[06:13] <GnarusLeo> ok, BSDinux and zarephath: After I have entered the new modes .. what do I do next?
[06:13] <HymnToLife> thx nalioth
[06:13] <zarephath> nalioth: Thanks
[06:13] <HymnToLife> GnarusLeo> logout and Ctrl+Alt+BkSpc
[06:13] <ubuntu28> ipod is the only player that works with linux
[06:13] <Davey> uhm...
[06:13] <HymnToLife> ipods rule
[06:13] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: Back up and follow BSDinux instruction that will get you where you need to be...maybe..
[06:13] <BSDinux> gnarus, sorry haven't seen the original question...
[06:14] <GTX> ipods suck
[06:14] <GTX> lol
[06:14] <ubuntu28> not true
[06:14] <GTX> true
[06:14] <Kanalal> no they do
[06:14] <Davey> any MP3 player that represents itself as a USB HDD will work
[06:14] <HymnToLife> true as hell, I had two
[06:14] <HymnToLife> worked like a charm
[06:14] <GTX> there crap
[06:14] <GTX> lol
[06:14] <ubuntu28> ipod is the best seller
[06:15] <GTX> doesnt mean its the best
[06:15] <Morfosomo> usb drive work great on unbuntu, fully automatic
[06:15] <BSDinux>  /leave #ipod
[06:15] <defrysk> iadio is the best
[06:15] <BSDinux> hmm didn't wokr
[06:15] <defrysk> audio
[06:15] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: Or you could just save the file and restart X.... ;-O
[06:15] <zarephath> clear
[06:15] <defrysk> iaudio g3
[06:15] <sZ> guys im having a problem compiling
[06:15] <defrysk> sZ get the .dev package
[06:15] <sZ> error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[06:16] <ubuntu28> any thing from appel is awesome
[06:16] <peerys> hey, can anyone here tell me how to restart iptables so new rules will take affect on breezy?
[06:16] <BSDinux> did you get the buildessentials?
[06:16] <ubuntu28> i mean its very linux minded
[06:16] <BSDinux> sudo apt-get install buildessential
[06:16] <defrysk> ubuntu28, you seem ignorent ;)
[06:16] <ubuntu28> no smart
[06:16] <HymnToLife> [18:16]  BSDinux sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:16] <sZ> let me see if i have it installed
[06:16] <s|k> is it necessary to mount a file system to enable ssh?
[06:16] <defrysk> ubuntu28, of course
[06:16] <BSDinux> ah yeah
[06:17] <HymnToLife> s|k> what d'you mean
[06:17] <BSDinux> and use <stdio.h> not "stdio.h"
[06:17] <BSDinux> and if using cpp you better use <iostream>
[06:17] <HymnToLife> I wonder how you can run anything without mounting a FS
[06:17] <s|k> HymnToLife: I'm following these instructions to enable a ssh server on my system: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103860&highlight=ssh
[06:17] <s|k> and it says I have to create a mountpoint
[06:17] <HymnToLife> s|k> just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:17] <HymnToLife> and that's about it
[06:17] <sZ> it wasnt installed.... (build essential)
[06:17] <slabby> Hi my DHCP doesnt seem to be working, where is the DHCP config?
[06:17] <nalioth> peerys: there is no need to alter the default iptables
[06:18] <s|k> HymnToLife: okay thanks :)
[06:18] <BSDinux> build essential is essential to build
[06:18] <peerys> nalioth: ?
[06:18] <BSDinux> ;-)
[06:18] <BSDinux> ppc as in power pc or in pocket pc?
[06:19] <nalioth> peerys: the default iptables rules are quite fine. this is not windows where everything is insecure
[06:19] <sZ> dont be too big headed nalioth
[06:19] <Morfosomo> slabby, explain your problem a little more please
[06:19] <peerys> nalioth: perhaps i should come at this a different way.  i'm installing ssh-server.  it accepts connections fine from the local machine, but from everywhere else the connection to port 22 is refused
[06:19] <ubuntu28> lol
[06:20] <Morfosomo> sZ, hes telling but the mere truth
[06:20] <nalioth> sZ: i'm sorry? in a default install of ubuntu there is no need for any aggressive firewalling
[06:20] <nalioth> peerys: check your router
[06:20] <ubuntu28> so speaking of ipod
[06:20] <peerys> nalioth: so i added port 22 to the ipchain and nada
[06:20] <slabby> Morfosomo, well when ubuntu boots it wont obtain an IP from my router, if I run an app like wifi radar and tell it to connect it optains an IP straight away
[06:20] <zarephath> BSDinux: PowerMac...heh..although I reckon I will need to get my Pocket PC(Axim v51 VGA) setup here in the near future ;-)
[06:20] <nalioth> peerys: why not return the iptables to their default state?
[06:20] <peerys> nalios: its not my router.  i can ssh everywhere else in the network fine except this box
[06:21] <Morfosomo> ha, that a wifi issue,. not dhcp
[06:21] <ubuntu28> will any of the ipod nano's "flash based" work with ubuntu?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> slabby> run network-admin and ensure your network hardware is working and the connection is enabled with DHCP
[06:21] <BSDinux> i only got a cheap ipaq that can't be flashed with linux :-/ and some palms, they are ok though
[06:21] <slabby> HymnToLife, it is i believe
[06:21] <sZ> im just saying, dont be too bigheaded, new vulnerabilities are found all the time. maybe there is none now, but in 3 months there could be one, and a more agressive firewall could potentially prevent problems.
[06:21] <ubuntu28> why falsh it with linux?
[06:21] <Morfosomo> slabby, is your wifi your default getaway?
[06:21] <s|k> HymnToLife: how do I determine what my IP is?
[06:21] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection
[06:21] <nalioth> sZ: to each their own. this is not windows.
[06:21] <BSDinux> some ipaqs can be flashed with linux. especially the old compaq ones
[06:21] <HymnToLife> s|k> ifconfig
[06:21] <nalioth> sZ: ifconfig
[06:22] <s|k> thanks
[06:22] <ubuntu28> i hate windows
[06:22] <BSDinux> so what?
[06:22] <ubuntu28> why?
[06:22] <sZ> i hate windows too :)
[06:22] <s|k> HymnToLife: that's not working
[06:22] <ubuntu28>  compaq desktops are bad to use even for windows
[06:22] <HymnToLife> relly ?
[06:22] <^Odd^> i have a question i have a imb thinkpad R31 and i was wondering there are 3 buttons on here for the volume and stuff but ubuntu dosen't see them how do i get ubuntu to use the volume buttons?
[06:22] <s|k> sudo: ipconfig: command not found
[06:22] <HymnToLife> +a
[06:22] <ubuntu28> iwant an os x theme for gnome
[06:22] <BSDinux> compaq ipaq, not desktop
[06:22] <peerys> ok... how about this, then... does anyone have a clue as to how to restart iptables??
[06:22] <slabby> Morfosomo, supposed to be but when I boot it isnt allways set as it, I dont have any other eth0 configured so ath0 is the only option
[06:22] <heyjoe2> can anyone tell me how u can manually and safely get ubuntu to recognize a usb device via the command line?
[06:22] <HymnToLife> it should be run in a terminal of course ;)
[06:22] <ryanakca> I've managed making kde look like macosx with a howto, but haven't managed to find one for gnome...
[06:22] <Morfosomo> s|k, pay atention,..     ifconfig
[06:22] <nalioth> s|k: iFconfig
[06:22] <ryanakca> anyone know how to make ubuntu/gnome look like macosx?
[06:22] <HymnToLife> try with sudo perhaps
[06:22] <s|k> oh
[06:22] <ubuntu28> cool
[06:23] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection
[06:23] <ubuntu28> i love os x use dto run on an old g3
[06:23] <HymnToLife> lmao
[06:23] <slabby> ryanakca, why would you want to do that
[06:23] <BSDinux> odd you can change a lot in the system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[06:23] <snowblink> ryanakca, gdesklets
[06:23] <ubuntu28> os x is the best os yet
[06:23] <Kyral> ryanakca: look around on GNOME-Look
[06:23] <ubuntu> ave
[06:23] <Kyral> there are many themes
[06:23] <HymnToLife> can't stand OSX
[06:23] <Morfosomo> slabby /etc/networking/interfaces   <- check that your ath0 is set to auto
[06:23] <nalioth> !offtopic
[06:23] <Kyral> Frankly I don't like it 'cause its SOO unoriginal now
[06:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:23] <ubuntu28> the gui the core the multimedia every damn thing is perfect of it
[06:23] <XiCillin> how does everyone here upgrade their ubuntu to the next version?
[06:23] <iooioo> hi! i mirror ubuntu from ftp.bin.nl and i noticed today substatian and unusual growth of new packages. could somebody explain that, shall we see soon a new release or something?
[06:23] <ubuntu28> why is too easy?
[06:23] <slabby> Morfosomo, it is
[06:23] <ubuntu28> or too hard?
[06:23] <nalioth> OSX talk can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:23] <^Odd^> BSDinux, i know that but ubuntu dosen't seem to see the keys in the first place
[06:24] <heyjoe2> can anyone tell me how u can manually and safely get ubuntu to recognize a usb device via the command line?
[06:24] <ubuntu28> it on topic
[06:24] <ryanakca> slabby: matter of preference... why do you use a certain theme over another theme?
[06:24] <HymnToLife> i just don't like it
[06:24] <HymnToLife> the GUI looks horrible imo
[06:24] <ubuntu28> ok i gotta go peace
[06:24] <slabby> ryanakca, because i dont like macs :)
[06:24] <Morfosomo> hmm,.. i will give you a link (wheni find it) for setting up wireless ,. lemme fetch that
[06:24] <ryanakca> slabby: I simply just like the way it looks, end of conversation
[06:24] <BSDinux> oh.. probably you can change some settings in xorg.conf? try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:24] <HymnToLife> it's expensive as hell
[06:24] <Kyral> and its more like that its proprietary
[06:24] <nalioth> HymnToLife: offtopic
[06:24] <nalioth> Kyral: offtopic
[06:24] <slabby> ryanakca, dont flame dont take it personally
[06:24] <HymnToLife> yeah sorry
[06:24] <Kyral> nalioth: I was about to leave :P
[06:24] <s|k> HymnToLife: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/592902  <-- can you tell which one of those is mine? :s
[06:24] <nalioth> HymnToLife: Kyral: y'all are feeding trolls
[06:24] <XiCillin> how does everyone here upgrade their ubuntu to the next version?
[06:24] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection
[06:25] <^Odd^> i have tryed to do the programming thing with ubuntu but it just dosen't see the keys
[06:25] <BSDinux> for wireless have a look at ndiswrapper
[06:25] <zarephath> dist-upgrade?
[06:25] <moonlite> heyjoe2: you should just plug it in and if it is supported it will be recognized right away
[06:25] <slabby> ubotu tell xicillin about upgrade
[06:25] <Jarigo1> ANYONE?:|
[06:25] <HymnToLife> s|k> obviously 70.171.203.220
[06:25] <heyjoe2> moonlite: its been a bit sporadic lately
[06:25] <BSDinux> jarigo, go to system->administration->network
[06:25] <heyjoe2> moonlite: any idea on how to get it to work like that
[06:25] <Jarigo1> BSDinux, It changes it back tho
[06:25] <moonlite> heyjoe2: work like what?
[06:25] <HymnToLife> the other one is the loopback, used when your machine needs to connect to itself
[06:26] <slabby> lol
[06:26] <heyjoe2> moonlite: actually not sporadic, its just no longer working where u just plug and away u go
[06:26] <XiCillin> slabby, thanks but i was asking how people here upgrade, from cd or apt-get
[06:26] <slabby> XiCillin, k
[06:26] <Kyral> Apt
[06:26] <BSDinux> you can apt from cd...
[06:26] <Kyral> <--- Apt Junkie
[06:26] <s|k> hrm
[06:26] <heyjoe2> moonlite: but it works on windows
[06:26] <HymnToLife> +1 BSDinux
[06:26] <ryanakca> is gdesklet like karamba for gnome? I think it is... just not sure :)
[06:26] <Jarigo1> BSDinux, It changes it back tho
[06:26] <HymnToLife> everytime something is installed it's from dpkg anyway
[06:26] <Kyral> ryanakca: yah
[06:27] <^Odd^> weard ubuntu just dosen't see the key's for the volume O_o
[06:27] <HymnToLife> so it's all basically the same thing
[06:27] <moonlite> heyjoe2: i don't understand. Did you just remove it without unmounting it?
[06:27] <slabby> HymnToLife, what is in your dhclient.conf?
[06:27] <lucas> Good Morning everyone
[06:27] <HymnToLife> slabby> not much I think
[06:27] <moonlite> (the same as "remove safely..." in windows)
[06:27] <luigi> Hello
[06:27] <HymnToLife> static all the way for me
[06:27] <zarephath> hi lucas:
[06:27] <Jarigo1> BSDinux, It changes it back tho
[06:27] <Jarigo1> :|
[06:27] <heyjoe2> moonlite: i think ubuntu is a bit notorious of having a few usb problems, i didnt just remove it without unmounting it. i selected unmount once though and i got an error message, but the drive icon disappeared
[06:27] <luigi> Hello everybody
[06:27] <Morfosomo> sorry but i cant find it
[06:28] <Jarigo1> ffs:(
[06:28] <lucas> I've got a question: In the official Ubuntu wiki it says that a sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla would install flash. Problem is, it can't find a package that has that name. I enabled both, the universe and the multiverse repositories.
[06:29] <luigi> Hello
[06:29] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection
[06:29] <moonlite> heyjoe2: i'd try to reformat it and then try again
[06:29] <moonlite> sigh
[06:29] <LKRaider> lucas : just go to a page that needs flash and firefox will prompt to install the plugin
[06:29] <BabaLi> If a friend install ubuntu and add 2 other harddrive to his comp after, will he get some error ( because of hda becoming hdc or something like that )
[06:30] <Jarigo1> ffs i think my best answer would be to scrap linux since it wrecked my windows partition:|
[06:30] <lucas> All right. I guess the wiki has to be updated then?
[06:30] <Jarigo1> Can anyone help me please:|
[06:30] <Lu161> Hello
[06:30] <zarephath> BabaLi: Not it should not matter...Ubuntu can sort it out(normally)
[06:30] <BSDinux> jarigol where did you change it? did you change the "default gateway device"?
[06:31] <BSDinux> hard to believe ubuntu would have done anything to your win partition
[06:31] <BabaLi> zarephath, ok cool ;)
[06:31] <Jarigo1> BSDinux, yes, and i attempted to resize my hdd and it failed.
[06:31] <Lu161> Hello
[06:31] <lucas> May I edit the wiki concerning that flash problem?
[06:32] <coyctecm> great now gnome is running fast! i installed more memory to my machine :) 1gb
[06:32] <Lu161> Hello
[06:32] <LKRaider> lucas : if you have a solution that worked for you, yes.
[06:32] <brooks> hello everyone.
[06:33] <BSDinux> jarigol, are you using two network cards simultaneously?
[06:33] <lucas> So should I delete the paragraph that contains the "mistake" or should I put my solution directly under it?
[06:33] <Lu161> ???
[06:33] <XiCillin> anybody here testing the new update-manager?
[06:33] <brooks> if someone can tell me how i can reformat my hd and put a fat 32 file sys back on it plz pm me
[06:33] <WiFiTux> Hi, I see a Dapper Flight 5 CD in the Wiki, but is not posted?
[06:34] <BSDinux> makefs_vfat
[06:34] <Lu161> Can u see what i write?
[06:34] <LKRaider> lucas : you can remove, but it is best to remove only if you are sure it is of no help to anyone. I would just add a comment and sign that it worked for me.
[06:34] <WiFiTux> Lu161: no
[06:34] <nalioth> WiFiTux: it is a misprint or a future prognostication
[06:34] <lucas> all right
[06:34] <lucas> will work on it now
[06:34] <Lu161> why?
[06:34] <brooks> ty where do i need to type that in?
[06:34] <WiFiTux> nalioth: lol
[06:34] <brooks> terminal?
[06:35] <Lu161> Somebody can help me?
[06:35] <WiFiTux> nalioth: or maybe is just the CD that is missing.
[06:35] <BSDinux> wait a min... confused it with bsd i think
[06:36] <nalioth> WiFiTux: i don't think flight-5 is out (or even if there will be one)
[06:36] <Lu161> Somebody see me???
[06:36] <WiFiTux> no
[06:37] <Jarigo1> Lu161, i feeling the same atm
[06:37] <Jarigo1> its well annoyin me
[06:37] <BSDinux> it'S mkfs not makefs
[06:37] <Lu161> WiFiTux why nobody see me?
[06:37] <LKRaider> lol
[06:37] <Fable> i see u
[06:37] <Fable> :D
[06:37] <WiFiTux> Lu161: cause you are trolling
[06:37] <zarephath> It could be mke2fs..heheh
[06:37] <Lu161> what is trolling?
[06:37] <brooks> or better, i just installed this thing and am considering going back to windows even though i like the apps better
[06:38] <WiFiTux> Lu161: what you are doing.
[06:38] <brooks> but i cant run cool edit pro
[06:38] <BSDinux> tried wine?
[06:38] <Lu161> i don t understand
[06:38] <BSDinux> what's cool edit btw?
[06:38] <tyler> hi everybody
[06:38] <brooks> i cant get it to install
[06:38] <WiFiTux> brooks: you haven't tried enough
[06:38] <brooks> its a virtual sound studio
[06:38] <tyler> I've got a question
[06:38] <zarephath> BSDinux: A windows program to edit audio files
[06:38] <nalioth> Lu161: this is a help channel for Ubuntu linux, if you wish to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <brooks> i have wine on my desktop
[06:38] <WiFiTux> BSDinux: a sound app for Wnidows
[06:38] <tyler> about cedega
[06:38] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection without it changing back?
[06:38] <Lu161> I have a problem
[06:38] <brooks> i cant get anything to install
[06:38] <BSDinux> ah... there should be some cool audio apps though
[06:39] <BSDinux> is it kinda cubase?
[06:39] <Lu161> but i can t speak
[06:39] <brooks> is there a page to help newns install the software?
[06:39] <tyler> how can I install a .bin game with cedega?
[06:39] <WiFiTux> Lu161: tell the problem in one line, and make it have all the info we need.
[06:39] <lucas> In the styleguide it says I should use American english. Since I am British, there might be a problem...
[06:39] <WiFiTux> Lu161: you type, not speak.
[06:39] <Lu161> My totem player don t open mp3 and Dvd
[06:39] <zarephath> brooks: wiki.ubuntu.org
[06:39] <BSDinux> cheers mate
[06:39] <me2win> tyler, you dont install .bin's
[06:39] <LKRaider> brooks : http://ubuntustudio.com/
[06:39] <brooks> ty on iy
[06:39] <brooks> on it
[06:39] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection without it changing back?
[06:40] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: default?
[06:40] <tyler> and how can I install that game?
[06:40] <Jarigo1> ye#
[06:40] <BSDinux> tyler, what would a .bin game be?
[06:40] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: there is no default. It depends on what is plugged, where do you mean this?
[06:40] <tyler> there are 2 .bin files for the game, like cd1 and cd2
[06:40] <Lu161> My totem player don t open mp3 and Dvd
[06:40] <me2win> tyler, bin's you images, need a .cue to go with it. Mount the .cue
[06:40] <tyler> I mounted them but they don't work
[06:40] <defrysk> BSDinux, got a .cue ?
[06:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lu161 about dvd
[06:40] <me2win> bin's are like images*
[06:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lu161 about mp3
[06:40] <WiFiTux> Lu161: ubuntu.com / Wiki / type mp3 on the search
[06:41] <me2win> tyler, that because mounting is for windows
[06:41] <Lu161> thanks
[06:41] <me2win> tyler, they are not made for linux
[06:41] <nalioth> me2win: bins can also be executable archives
[06:41] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux,  it keeps changing to wifi not eth1
[06:41] <tyler> you don't know cedega man
[06:41] <BSDinux> you could probably mount the bin file as cdrom
[06:41] <tyler> it asks for mouting files
[06:41] <me2win> nalioth, my bad
[06:41] <slabby> For some reason Ubuntu cant seem to get an IP from my router however it tries. The only way I can get an IP is load WiFi radar and tell it to connect (then it gets IP straight away). WHy?
[06:41] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: well, maybe the wifi is the one working and not the wired?
[06:41] <tyler> if you never used it just shut up
[06:41] <Mercutio150> can someone point me in the right direction for reloading Ubuntu?
[06:41] <Jarigo1> they both work...
[06:41] <WiFiTux> slabby: you have missconfigured it all.
[06:41] <me2win> tyler, why are you telling me to shut up, im just trying to help you
[06:42] <WiFiTux> Mercutio150: reloading?
[06:42] <tyler> you said I'm not made for linux, thanks for the help
[06:42] <slabby> WiFiTux, misconfig'd what?
[06:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler about attitude
[06:42] <me2win> tyler, i said THEY are not made for linux
[06:42] <tyler> I use linux from a long time
[06:42] <zarephath> BSDinux: Just install the vmware beta...then run windows in a virtual mode....problem solved..eventually Xen will probably be able to do it if GLP/OS is wanted
[06:42] <lucas> Well, in my opionion nobody is "not made for linux"
[06:42] <andy101> Hi, Question: Is there a way to have chmod recursively modify all the sub directories (and their sub directories) in a directory but not the files contained in the directory (or sub directories)? thanks.
[06:42] <tyler> oh sorry
[06:42] <Mercutio150> Yes, when I first installed I really didn't know much about and I have a bunch of crap installed and I think I am conflicting in some things
[06:42] <tyler> I read badly
[06:42] <WiFiTux> slabby: are you using WEP? ifplugd? Does it connect automatically? are you typing the commands?
[06:42] <tyler> sorry me2win
[06:42] <Mercutio150> so I want to just wipe it clean and start over
[06:43] <lucas> I can't edit the wiki
[06:43] <BSDinux> zarephat, i'm all set up the way i want it, maybe you wanted to direct that to someone else or misread me? ;-)
[06:43] <lucas> I created a launchpad account, doesn't work though... wrong password
[06:43] <WiFiTux> Mercutio150: then reinstal and then use the same partition that you were using and start clean?
[06:43] <lucas> I'd like to contribute though
[06:43] <BSDinux> i've got winxp, ubuntu, freebsd and tiger all on the same hd... ;-)
[06:43] <zarephath> Mercutiol50: How about just rebooting to the install disk and when prompted re-formatting the drive
[06:43] <Mercutio150> would I need to back up my data that way?
[06:43] <lucas> Can I send the stuff anyone here so he/she can put it in the wiki?
[06:44] <WiFiTux> lucas: I think you can add it.?
[06:44] <LKRaider> lucas :  strange. maybe wait a while, don't know if launchpad and wiki are on same server and may take time to update both
[06:44] <Steve^> Hey, how can I map a network drive?
[06:44] <slabby> WiFiTux, yes I have WEP, what is ifplugd? Wifi radar connects auto not ubuntu, im not typing any commands.
[06:44] <zarephath> BSDinux: You have a tiger in your hard drive....bet that was messy...
[06:44] <HymnToLife> lucas > you can put it yourself
[06:44] <nickrud> lucas: have them mail you a password reset (I've done that several times, I'm forgetful)
[06:44] <BSDinux> you bet
[06:44] <lucas> I did that
[06:44] <lucas> and I changed the PW
[06:44] <lucas> same error message
[06:44] <WiFiTux> slabby: how will it connect without any commands?
[06:44] <BSDinux> steve, try places->connect to server
[06:45] <Steve^> thanks
[06:45] <WiFiTux> slabby: iwconfig eth1 essid YOURESSID enc YOURWEPKEY
[06:45] <Stormx2> Hey everyone
[06:46] <BSDinux> slabby did you try the ndiswrapper?
[06:46] <BSDinux> you can use the windows driver with ndiswrapper if there's no native linux driver
[06:46] <WiFiTux> BSDinux: huh? the Driver works. He needs to configure it.
[06:46] <BSDinux> ifplugd is a daemon that checks if the net is connected
[06:47] <WiFiTux> ifplugd uses the available network link to detect internet and trys to put you there faster.
[06:48] <BSDinux> yeah iwconfig.. optionally you could edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:48] <WiFiTux> For an static configuration
[06:48] <BSDinux> or simply use the system->admin->network gui
[06:49] <BSDinux> you can also add different locations
[06:49] <squirrelstyle> hello has anyone loaded 5.10 on a dell inspiron 8600 will success
[06:49] <Jarigo1> how do i change the default network connection without it changing back?
[06:49] <PhoenixP3K> squirrelstyle, well we're 595 people in the room. You'll be lucky to find someone with the same PC as you...
[06:49] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: what happends?
[06:49] <me2win> squirrelstyle, im sure it will work
[06:50] <Jarigo1> i choose eth1 and press ok and i check again and its back to wan0 WiFiTux
[06:50] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: use ifplugd, it will use the available link detected.
[06:50] <PhoenixP3K> squirrelstyle, try out the live CD, if it works you should feel re-assured
[06:50] <Jarigo1> root@cpc2-burn2-5-0-cust125:~ # ifplugd
[06:50] <Jarigo1> -bash: ifplugd: command not found
[06:51] <squirrelstyle> jume2win merci--just curious because of the know HP lappy issue with the Broadcom Wireless card
[06:51] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: wan? Don't use the GUI, use commands. if you want eth1 up, then, ifconfig eth1 up, ifconfig wlan0 down, ifconfig eth0 down?
[06:51] <squirrelstyle> thx Phoenix
[06:51] <cdubya> is there a clean way to get a server listing of the channels on freenode using gaim?
[06:51] <lucas> still no luck on the wiki
[06:51] <me2win> squirrelstyle, yeah
[06:51] <wormee> hello
[06:51] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: `of course sudo has to do ti
[06:51] <lucas> I can login to launchpad though
[06:51] <HymnToLife> do you REALLY want to list ALL the channels on Freenode ??
[06:52] <me2win> squirrelstyle, only way to find out is to try :D. try the LIVE version
[06:52] <andy101> cdubya: have you tried /list ? its VERY long though
[06:52] <WiFiTux> HymnToLife: ?
[06:52] <cdubya> HymnToLife, looking for a particular one, but don't know if it exists
[06:52] <squirrelstyle> ok
[06:52] <cdubya> andy101, yeah, I know
[06:52] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, i need both enabled becuase i browse mt network..
[06:52] <nickrud> lucas: try #ubuntu-doc , they may have seen this before
[06:53] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: you are multi-homed?
[06:53] <Stormx2> how would I run a command recursively on every file in a directory?
[06:53] <slabby> WiFiTux, i dont need ndiswrapper do I if I can connect with default linux drivers
[06:53] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, what u mean?
[06:53] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: ifconfig eth1 up, ifconfig wlan0 up, dhclient eth1, dhclient wlan0?
[06:53] <WiFiTux> slabby: nO
[06:54] <slabby> WiFiTux, I didnt try to connect with the commands, i used the gui and told it to connect but woulnt
[06:54] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: you need both network cards runnung at the same time?
[06:54] <Jarigo1> yes WiFiTux
[06:54] <WiFiTux> slabby: u s e   t h e   c o m m a n d s
[06:54] <slabby> WiFiTux, ok
[06:54] <slabby> WiFiTux, will reboot and try
[06:54] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: bring both interfaces up then
[06:55] <Jarigo1> how?
[06:55] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" ?
[06:56] <Jarigo1> its same
[06:56] <Jarigo1> still using my network
[06:56] <Jarigo1> bbl guys
[06:56] <WiFiTux> ?
[06:56] <FlannelKing> zarephath: what's reading?
[06:57] <zarephath> FlannelKing: It the latest rave....or so I hear :-)
[06:58] <slabby> WiFiTux, it says "Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[06:58] <slabby>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted."
[06:58] <Nogimics> How do you traceroute in ubuntu?
[06:59] <ozrg> hi all
[06:59] <wormee> does anyone knows why 'iwlist ath0 scan' returns 'Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable' all the time?
[06:59] <zarephath> Ummm..is it eth0?
[07:00] <yggdrasil> bitornado console is driving me crazy.. once its started theres no way to control it ? without shutting it down and restart it ?
[07:00] <ozrg> at the start of the intallation it says 'search for usb hdd devices..' and stop's there, does anyone know why?
[07:00] <slabby> WiFiTux, does it ESSID need to be all caps?
[07:00] <Nogimics> How do you traceroute in ubuntu please?
[07:00] <slabby> !traceroot
[07:00] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slabby
[07:00] <yggdrasil> Slabby essid depends on whats actualy on the router mine is Wireless
[07:00] <zarephath> Nogimics: man traceroute
[07:00] <JustinLynn> Nogimics> you will need to install the traceroute package with sudo apt-get install traceroute
[07:00] <tristanmike> Nogimics, you may have to install it first
[07:01] <brooks> i dont have an icon for gparted under applications and the help page is telling me to use that
[07:01] <slabby> yggdrasil, mine on the router is not caps but I was wondering if ubuntu will only accept caps ESSID's
[07:01] <brooks> is there a way to access it
[07:01] <JustinLynn> Nogimics> then you can traceroute by typing traceroute HOST in a terminal
[07:01] <yggdrasil> slabby no it depends on the router ...
[07:01] <Nogimics> tristanmike thanks
[07:01] <yggdrasil> slabby anythig should go in..
[07:01] <tristanmike> brooks, you may need to refresh the gnome panel
[07:01] <ozrg> at the start of the intallation it says 'search for usb hdd devices..' and stop's there, does anyone know why?
[07:01] <Nogimics> I would of thought it was preinstalled
[07:01] <HappyFool> or use tracepath instead of traceroute
[07:02] <WiFiTux> slabby: ESSIS is the variable for your essid
[07:02] <slabby> WiFiTux, it says "Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[07:02] <slabby>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted."
[07:02] <swubuntu> .
[07:02] <WiFiTux> sudo
[07:02] <yggdrasil> odd
[07:02] <slabby> WiFiTux,ok
[07:03] <ozrg> ?
[07:03] <WiFiTux> ?
[07:03] <ozrg> can anyone help
[07:03] <WiFiTux> no
[07:03] <slabby> WiFiTux, brb will try a re-boot now
[07:03] <WiFiTux> why?
[07:03] <ozrg> WiFitux, ur not anyone.
[07:03] <WiFiTux> ozrg: you either
[07:04] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, just nipping to the shop
[07:04] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: really explain what you want to accomplish.
[07:04] <ozrg> WiFitux, then do not answer my question's.
[07:04] <zarephath> Ok so mail isn't installed by default? mail <username> gave me nothing..
[07:04] <WiFiTux> ozrg: sure
[07:05] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, i want to make eth1 my Default connection, not wlan0
[07:05] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: what is eth1, what is eth0 and what is wlan0
[07:05] <p0mppu> good evening, everyone
[07:05] <p0mppu> :)
[07:05] <ozrg> at the start of the installation it says 'search for usb hdd devices..' and stop's there, does anyone know why?
[07:05] <squirrelstyle> ozrg---check ubuntu forum
[07:05] <Jarigo1> eth0 is unused eth1 is my own connection wlan is network connection with internet
[07:06] <jasonkang86> can linux ubuntu install online games?
[07:06] <trappist> ozrg: maybe you have a usb device that it's getting hung up on
[07:06] <squirrelstyle> you might need to disable pnp os to install
[07:06] <p0mppu> if I may ask, when I checked to see what happens if I put the Dapper reposities and do an update, Synaptic told me it removes quite a lot of apps (hotplug for example?), so why is that?
[07:06] <p0mppu> why they're removed?
[07:06] <Jarigo1> eth0 is unused eth1 is my own connection wlan is network connection with internet  WiFiTux
[07:06] <ozrg> trappist: i've disabled all usb's still giving me the same problem
[07:06] <p0mppu> apps like k3b or hotplug..I think they're still needed aren't they?
[07:06] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: type route and which interface has the Ip for the default gw>
[07:07] <trappist> ozrg: disabled as in unplugged?
[07:07] <Jarigo1> can u example please WiFiTux
[07:07] <squirrelstyle> ozrg you disabled PNP os in the bios???
[07:08] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, brb 10 mins
[07:08] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: type "route" if the default gateway is 192.168.1.1 then which interface owns that netowkr>?
[07:08] <Xamusk> hello
[07:08] <slabby> WifiTux, tried that command after re-boot didnt work
[07:08] <Xamusk> I'm trying to install a new kernel
[07:08] <ozrg> trappist: disabled from bios and unplugged
[07:08] <Xamusk> it's in a laptop with an ATI card
[07:08] <WiFiTux> slabby: tell me the command
[07:09] <ozrg> squirrelstyle: is PNP the USB option?
[07:09] <slabby> WiFiTux, sudo iwconfig ath0 essid [my SSiD]  enc [my wep key] 
[07:09] <trappist> ozrg: most bioses have an option like "pnp aware OS".  you'd want to turn that off.
[07:09] <WiFiTux> slabby: ath0? that soudns like atheros, I dunno if thatr uses the wireless extensions. What occured after the command?
[07:10] <squirrelstyle> ozrg: disable PNP OS in the bios then you should be able to install
[07:10] <Xamusk> but when I boot, if I use vga=791, I can get the bootsplash, but get no text mode (the screen goes blank) and if I choose vga=0f01, it works
[07:10] <slabby> WiFiTux, nothing just back ready for another command, my cards interface is ath0 noth eth0
[07:10] <Xamusk> but without the bootsplash
[07:10] <WiFiTux> slabby: yeah, that is ok. now type iwconfuig
[07:10] <WiFiTux> iwconfig
[07:11] <trappist> Xamusk: what if you don't specify vga=
[07:11] <Xamusk> the ubuntu kernel worked with vga=791 (without bootsplash)
[07:11] <WiFiTux> Xamusk: vga=775 or something?
[07:11] <ozrg> squirrelstyle, trappist: i am trying that now. thanks.
[07:11] <slabby> WiFiTux, it will show up correctly now though as I had to use WiFi radar again to get IP
[07:11] <Xamusk> trappist: it goes blank
[07:11] <slabby> WiFiTux, shall i reboot and try iwconfig?
[07:11] <squirrelstyle> ozrg: if that does not work then try writing "linux acpi=off no acpi'' on the boot line before installing
[07:11] <WiFiTux> slabby: dude, you get an IP with sudo dhclient ath0
[07:11] <Xamusk> it looks like a framebuffer problema, but I don't know how to fix (already recompiled kernel many times)
[07:11] <WiFiTux> slabby: No, close the radar
[07:12] <yggdrasil> dam this sucks i starte bittornado with out a max upload and i cant get in to stop the process .... cuz its all floded to crapz
[07:12] <WiFiTux> slabby: sudo ifconfig ath0 down then ru the commands and then dhclient ath0
[07:12] <squirrelstyle> ozrg:
[07:12] <trappist> Xamusk: definitely does sound like a framebuffer issue.  I've never had trouble with my ati card, but I've never run a custom kernel with an ati card either.
[07:12] <nalioth> yggdrasil: kill the controlling terminal
[07:12] <ubuntu> I need help
[07:12] <ubuntu> i was wondering
[07:13] <sistema> hola hablan espaol
[07:13] <nalioth> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <squirrelstyle> ozrg: if that installs that way then re-enable PNP OS so your USB devices will work
[07:13] <WiFiTux> sistema: No ;-)
[07:13] <ubuntu> how much space is required to install ubuntu and for it to run properly
[07:13] <WiFiTux> ubuntu: like 2GB with all the stuff?
[07:13] <yggdrasil> nalioth its at my house and im at work.... cant ssh in atall.. im trying to reboot the router but its been like 5 minutes waiting for the page tocome up
[07:14] <ravv> #ubuntu+1
[07:15] <Xamusk> trappist: yeah, but I want swsusp working, and my wifi card's native driver requires a newer kernel
[07:16] <sistema> hoola hablan espaol
[07:16] <trappist> Xamusk: O
[07:16] <trappist> oops
[07:16] <sistema> alguien hbla espaol
[07:16] <sistema> alguien habla espaol
[07:16] <sistema> hello
[07:16] <me2win> yo hablo espanol
[07:16] <HymnToLife> !es
[07:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:16] <trappist> Xamusk: I'm not gonna berate you for building your own kernel :) I just don't know what kernel options might screw up ati's fb
[07:16] <sistema> hi
[07:17] <squirrelstyle> buna dimineata, esti ma
[07:17] <trappist> sistema: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:17] <Xamusk> ok
[07:17] <me2win> pero son channels por espanol. ubuntu-es, kubuntu-es
[07:17] <Xamusk> anyway... ati's fglrx is not building either
[07:17] <me2win> para*
[07:17] <slabby> WiFi, it worked using those commands
[07:17] <WiFiTux> sistema: que se vaya p[ara el otro canal1
[07:17] <WiFiTux> slabby: of course. ;-)
[07:17] <slabby> WiFiTux, :) so what is wrong? how do i make it work auto?
[07:18] <Steve^> I'm trying to mount a network drive, can anyone tell me what kind of connection I am using under 'Connection to Server...'?  Details on the connection can be found here http://www.bath.ac.uk/bucs/ad/vpn/work_on_files.shtml
[07:18] <sistema> ok
[07:18] <sistema> thaks
[07:18] <WiFiTux> It won't. you need a system that will keep a profile of your network. like radar
[07:18] <slabby> WiFiTux, so there is no way to make it auto get an IP?
[07:19] <slabby> WiFiTux, surely I can make ubuntu run those 2 commands that i ran manually?
[07:19] <Anubis> hi
[07:19] <slabby> WiFiTux, i need the IP assigned before I log in really becuase I want to be able to VNC in
[07:19] <Anubis> dont have connection when i cAN DOWNLOAD MP3 CODECS & HOW TO INSTALL???
[07:19] <zarephath> Anyone seen a HOWTO or wiki for Ubuntu on how to setup and run postfix? I have it installed...and want to use it as a email server
[07:20] <scav-> why doenst .bashrc run when i log in from gdm?
[07:20] <slabby> ^Odd^, I have TS issues, IT DOES NOT WORK :), when i join my server my headphones and mic are both muted
[07:20] <slabby> ^Odd^, and they dont unmute
[07:21] <mikebot>  anyone here run museek?
[07:21] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico!
[07:21] <^Odd^> slabby, pm me and we will fix it
[07:21] <^Odd^> ^_^
[07:21] <Xamusk> I think I needed agpgart to build fglrx
[07:22] <mikebot> anyone know about museek?
[07:22] <slabby> WiFiTux, you still around?
[07:22] <linuxN00B> Can somone tall me how to clean out the "cache" Memory
[07:23] <HappyFool> linuxN00B: of what? firefox? the apt system? or something else?
[07:23] <mikebot> or anyone run nicotine?
[07:23] <yggdrasil> anubis
[07:24] <tristanmike> mikebot, i ran nicotine, what's up?
[07:24] <linuxN00B> happyfool, fire fox and apt systems
[07:24] <mixmaster> hey
[07:24] <Xamusk> ugh
[07:25] <lrnt> salut !
[07:25] <HappyFool> linuxN00B: for firefox, Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy
[07:25] <lgc> Can anyone help me? I ended up with a pesky Windoubuntu that I can't get rid of!
[07:25] <nalioth> lgc: you've got a what?
[07:25] <mikebot> tristanmike: can i get it from synaptic?
[07:25] <yggdrasil> Anubis
[07:25] <HappyFool> linuxN00B: for apt, 'sudo apt-get clean' will do it
[07:25] <lrnt> y a des francais ici ?
[07:26] <HymnToLife> !fr
[07:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:26] <brooks> thanks for the help so far i finally got gparted to work. May I have the command that i need to make the whole drive a fat 32 filesys?
[07:26] <Fitzz> !fi
[07:26] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[07:26] <mixmaster> I have to do a postconf -n output form postfix whats the command line for that please
[07:26] <Xamusk> WiFiTux: vga=775 got the colors wrong in the bootsplash (although it was the first that put the OKs green) and didn't give me the text interface either
[07:26] <lrnt> merci !
[07:26] <HymnToLife> dr :)
[07:26] <Enursha> how do i uninstall a tar version of gine?
[07:26] <tristanmike> mikebot, yes but you may need to enable the universe/multiverse
[07:26] <eXistenZ> Does the acroread-mozilla plugin work with ff 1.5?
[07:27] <mikebot> tristanmike: i think i did that, okay, let me try to download it, brb
[07:27] <Enursha> how do i uninstall a tar version of gxine? that lastest one doesn't seem to work right.
[07:27] <linuxN00B> HappyFool: thanks, one last thing I need t flashplayer can I just do sudo apt-get install ???
[07:28] <sistema> hola
[07:28] <sistema> a hablan espaol
[07:28] <HymnToLife> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:28] <Xamusk> !pt_BR
[07:28] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Xamusk
[07:28] <ozgurgerilla> hi all
[07:28] <Xamusk> o_O
[07:28] <HappyFool> linuxN00B: i'm not 100% sure, but i see a 'flashplugin-nonfree' package in multiverse
[07:28] <HymnToLife> !pt
[07:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:28] <HappyFool> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:28] <ubotu> HappyFool: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:28] <tristanmike> Enursha, did you compile from source? did you use checkinstall if you did?
[07:28] <HappyFool> *grumble*
[07:28] <mikebot> tristanmike: it isn't letting me connect--the connect button is greyed out, it just says listening on port...
[07:28] <HappyFool> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:29] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5ubuntu0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[07:29] <Xamusk> is ubotu a girl?
[07:29] <ozgurgerilla> trying to install ubuntu im on the [DR-DOS]  A:\> what do i do now?
[07:29] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[07:29] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:29] <jerware> is there a program for automattic printer detection ?
[07:29] <tristanmike> mikebot, do you have a router? you have to open ports
[07:29] <mikebot> tristanmike: i don't have a router or a firewall
[07:29] <HymnToLife> ozgurgerilla> boot from Ubuntu CD
[07:29] <Enursha> tristanmike, yeah, for the source didn't use checkinstall though or atleast knowingly
[07:30] <mikebot> tristanmike: i am behind a school network, but i used soulseek on windows, so that shouldn't be a problem
[07:30] <ozgurgerilla> HymnToLife: I have
[07:30] <ozgurgerilla> but i get this screen
[07:30] <HymnToLife> then you should get the installer
[07:30] <HymnToLife> oh yeah
[07:30] <ozgurgerilla> ok
[07:30] <tristanmike> mikebot, hmm, not too sure, you might have to change a few settings
[07:30] <HymnToLife> just press enter at the first screen
[07:30] <tristanmike> Enursha, so you used makeinstall?
[07:30] <Enursha> tristanmike, yeah, that a bad move?
[07:31] <mikebot> tristanmike: okay..do you know where i could find information on it?
[07:31] <wickers> is there any way to make system wide theme changes? I mean, I've set my own background, theme, and GDM theme, but between logging in and loaded desktop there is still 'human' colours.
[07:31] <coyctecm> what's this new updates
[07:31] <tristanmike> Enursha, um, apparently you shouldn't use makeinstall on a debian based distro, use checkinstall, but you should have an uninstall script
[07:32] <coyctecm> nautilus, depends mpg321 and nautilus data, but not found
[07:32] <tristanmike> mikebot, on what, I'm sorry, I don't follow?
[07:32] <WiFiTux> Xamusk: google it.
[07:32] <mikebot> tristanmike: well, i don't know anythign aboutt his stuff, so i don't jknow how to change the settings
[07:32] <markk> can someone give me a quick rundown of CUPS vs LPR printing?
[07:32] <tristanmike> mikebot, .....installing.....
[07:32] <GnarusLeo> do you have to have the glrxd thing to use dualview with ATI? Cause when I try the new driver the screen just flickers like a mad man ...
[07:33] <edward0> markk: CUPS is the best :D
[07:33] <mikebot> tristanmike: what server is yours connecting on, and do you need a user name and password?
[07:33] <Enursha> tristanmike, ah, you got any clues where that'll be, is the a command i'll need to uninstall?
[07:33] <mikebot> tristanmike: thanks
[07:33] <tristanmike> Enursha, inside your "made" folder, you might have something called "uninstall.sh" or similar
[07:34] <slabby> WiFiTux, so there is no way to make it auto get an IP?
[07:34] <Makura> I have a question, why is it that when I run Synaptic I get an error that says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to fix this problem.
[07:34] <tristanmike> mikebot, ok, you have to make your shares
[07:34] <keithhhhhhhhh> hey is there any way to play or convert wmv files?
[07:34] <slabby> WiFiTux, surely I can make ubuntu run those 2 commands that i ran manually?
[07:34] <keithhhhhhhhh> in ubuntu
[07:34] <mikebot> tristanmike: before i connect?
[07:34] <HymnToLife> !wmv
[07:34] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:34] <tristanmike> mikebot, iirc
[07:34] <nalioth> Makura: run the command requested in a terminal
[07:34] <mikebot> tristanmike: sorry?
[07:34] <webex> how do i list the biggest files firest? whats the flaG?
[07:34] <Makura> nalioth: I did, and I seem to get an error, lemme reproduce it.
[07:34] <tristanmike> mikebot, sorry, if I recall correctly
[07:34] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know why the screen just flickers and everythings a mess when I try to use the fglrx drivers? have to use the ati-drivers, but then the dual monitor thing dont work ...
[07:35] <mikebot> tristanmike, i'm not really following
[07:35] <nalioth> Makura: use a pastebin, please
[07:35] <tristanmike> mikebot, you have to create your shares before you connect, if I recall correctly
[07:35] <GnarusLeo> Im using a HP pavilion WXGA machine ..
[07:36] <Makura> nalioth: I have two separate computers, I can't.  There's no way to join this channel on the other because I don't have an application, nor will it let me install an application to join.
[07:36] <tristanmike> mikebot, again, I'm not fluent with this type of filesharing....I've only used it to connect to a single friend to share files
[07:36] <mikebot> tristanmike, okay, i'll try
[07:36] <mikebot> tristanmike, can i share ntfs stuff?
[07:36] <webex>  anyone know what the flag for ls to list the biggest files first is? can find it in man pages
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> you can use samba and share a mounted ntfs partition. correct
[07:37] <Makura> nalioth: It has something about "Assertion:  `dependtry <=4' failed"
[07:37] <WiFiTux> slabby: yes, I think there is anetwork onfiguraton around
[07:37] <WiFiTux> I dunno in KD
[07:37] <WiFiTux> e
[07:37] <ozgurgerilla> is there instructions on how to install ubuntu?
[07:37] <ravv> webex "man ls"
[07:37] <mikebot> tristanmike, still isn't letting me click connect
[07:37] <tristanmike> mikebot, hmm, I'd say no, because the download directory is your share directory
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> ozgurgerilla,  ubuntu homepage/wiki - has several
[07:38] <tristanmike> mikebot, working on it
[07:38] <mikebot> tristanmike, hehe okay, sorry
[07:39] <Enursha> tristanmike, cant find any, im i gona have to manual uninstall it?
[07:39] <mattafix> hi
[07:39] <DShepherd> does anyone know a nice clipboard utility for gnome that I can use? something like klipper for KDE
[07:39] <DShepherd> ?
[07:39] <mattafix> can you read this
[07:40] <nalioth> mattafix: what does it say?
[07:40] <nalioth> DShepherd: apt-cache search clipboard
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> DShepherd,  i think gnome has a similer tool.. but ive not used it.  i just recall seeing it.
[07:40] <lgc> HappyFool, you seem to be knowledgeable. Can you help me?
[07:40] <mattafix> can you use flash player with ububtu
[07:40] <HappyFool> *blink*
[07:41] <nalioth> HappyFool: you'll need to follow lgc to help him properly
[07:41] <ifr> Hey, Y'all. Problem Is this: my sister doesn't know  enough to change settings on her linksys wired router, and I need to get into the machine (it's running Ubuntu, my machine at her house so she can do some gimp image cropping) using tight vnc. The firewall is thwarting me. I had opened ports 5900 and 5800 and pointed to the LAN IP she had when I was there, but now, uh, not. Any way SHE can initiate a session with me so I can answer an out
[07:41] <DShepherd> nalioth: the search said that I have xclipboard installed
[07:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattafix about flash
[07:41] <vtomek> can somebody helo me? I do my own kernel but when the kernel boot, is a kernel panic " unable to mount root file system" , i think grub is perfect because i copyd all! But i dont make initrd? How can i make INITRD?
[07:41] <nalioth> mattafix: look at your priv msgs
[07:42] <DShepherd> nalioth: i dont think that;s what I need though
[07:42] <tristanmike> mikebot, put in a name and password
[07:42] <mikebot> tristanmike, any name/pw?
[07:42] <tristanmike> mikebot, yeah, that's all I did
[07:43] <curvamacz> Anyone on this reverse tunnel for vnc?
[07:43] <mikebot> tristanmike, ah it worked..haha okay, thanks a lot
[07:43] <tristanmike> mikebot, no prob, it's been a while for me :P
[07:44] <mikebot> tristanmike, no worries--sorry if it seemed like i was rushing you
[07:44] <mikebot> tristanmike, i have class in 15 is why
[07:44] <mikebot> tristanmike, thanks a lot again, i gotta go, cya
[07:44] <tristanmike> mikebot, not at all =)
[07:44] <eXistenZ> where can I get realplayer from
[07:44] <tristanmike> !tell eXistenZ about realplayer
[07:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eXistenZ about restricted
[07:44] <tristanmike> eXistenZ, I LOVE your nick, awesome movie, blew my freakin' mind
[07:45] <eXistenZ> tristanmike, thanks :-)
[07:46] <coyctecm> there are some updates for breezy but depencies are not ok
[07:46] <Enursha> tristanmike, cant find any uninstall file, im i gona have to manual uninstall it?
[07:46] <jerware> keithhhhhhhhh:  apt-cache search wmv.  i found vlc but it doesent work
[07:47] <nalioth> jerware: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[07:47] <jerware> whats /msg  nalioth ?
[07:47] <nir\> hi
[07:48] <tristanrehearsal> Enursha, it seems so, let the hunting begin
[07:48] <nir\> where i can see if my system fits to XGL ?
[07:48] <nalioth> jerware: you type /msg ubotu w32codecs
[07:48] <jerware> at the shell?
[07:48] <nalioth> nir\: 'cat /etc/issue'  if it doesnt say dapper drake, you can't run xgl
[07:48] <Enursha> tristanrehearsal, Nooooooo, ahwell, cheers neway.
[07:48] <tristanrehearsal> Enursha, if you use checkinstall, it makes a ".deb" and makes apt aware which means you can "apt-get remove" or use synaptic
[07:49] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, you there mate?
[07:49] <Enursha> tristanrehearsal, cool, think i might do that next time then, might save me a fair bit of haslle
[07:49] <WiFiTux> yes
[07:50] <Jarigo1> okay back to my problem then
[07:50] <tristanrehearsal> Enursha, but again, if you have your build directory still, you can check for something that will uninstall it for you, make sure you scour that build dir.
[07:50] <Jarigo1> i want to use eth1 as default
[07:50] <nir\> nalioth: so i'll upgrade to Dapper , but what then , does XGL supports Voodoo 3000 ?
[07:50] <cj> hahahahahhaah: http://spaces.msn.com/mmm2006-02-08_10.09/editorial/default/images/Spaces_icon.gif
[07:50] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: type "route" and check if the default gateway has to do with which interface.
[07:50] <Jarigo1> okay hold on
[07:51] <tristanrehearsal> Enursha, good luck
[07:51] <Enursha> tristanrehearsal, i'll have a hunt, if i want to checkinstall, is it literae that command?
[07:51] <WiFiTux> cj:  is not moving
[07:51] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux,
[07:51] <Jarigo1> default         cpc2-burn2-5-0- 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[07:51] <Jarigo1> default         192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[07:51] <help> can anyone tell me how to get flash player on ubuntu
[07:51] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: the default is the wlan0
[07:52] <Jarigo1> how 2 change?
[07:52] <nalioth> Jarigo1: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[07:52] <Jarigo1> k...
[07:52] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: great question... hhmm
[07:52] <Jarigo1> it was 2 lines
[07:52] <Jarigo1> i talk more than 2 lines
[07:52] <halpo> apua
[07:52] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: which is the gateway for eth1?
[07:52] <halpo> how do i get sshd to ubuntu?
[07:52] <tucoz> Hello, I am having trouble with getting my ati radeon x700 card properly set up
[07:52] <WiFiTux> halpo: sudo apt-get install sshd?
[07:52] <Jarigo1> what do u mean?
[07:53] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: what is the IP of the router of eth1?
[07:53] <halpo> apt-get didnt find sshd
[07:53] <Jarigo1> 82.4.118.125
[07:53] <WiFiTux> halpo: sudo apt-cache search ssh
[07:53] <Jarigo1> 82.4.118.0
[07:53] <tucoz> fgl_glxgears does not work, although fglrxinfo tells me I have open gl installed
[07:53] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: sudo route add default gw 82.4.118.125
[07:54] <davmor2> halpo just enter synaptic and type in ssh click on openssh-server
[07:54] <tucoz> hmm, fglrxinfo tells me the vendor of opengl is mesa
[07:54] <Jarigo1> .SIOCADDRT: File exists
[07:54] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: what matters here is which interface came up when. That will define which owns the default gateway
[07:55] <Jarigo1> i need to beable to use both connections
[07:55] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: now, do route again.
[07:55] <Jarigo1> sec
[07:55] <Jarigo1> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:55] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: you cannot have 2 default gateways. You ca still ue both conenctions but not for internet. one ca be internal and the other the internet, the internet one has to own the gateway
[07:56] <Jarigo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9922
[07:56] <PhoenixP3K> !upgrade
[07:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[07:57] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: run the route command \I gave you
[07:57] <halpo> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                   [fail] 
[07:57] <XiCillin> should that upgrader tell you, you can upgrade to dapper now
[07:57] <XiCillin> or wil lit do that on the 20th/
[07:57] <halpo> what should i do
[07:57] <WiFiTux> halpo: sudo apt-get --reinstall install sshd?
[07:58] <WiFiTux> halpo: why did it fail?
[07:58] <halpo> dunno
[07:58] <halpo> thats why i am asking
[07:58] <robinl1> how to disable the screensaver without using the graphical dialog? (crashes at preview)
[07:58] <WiFiTux> halpo: reinstall it.
[07:58] <XiCillin> halpo, how would we know why it failed?
[07:58] <chrisw69> hello
[07:58] <XiCillin> het
[07:58] <halpo> dunno
[07:58] <chrisw69> I'm a real noob
[07:59] <XiCillin> good for you
[07:59] <WiFiTux> lol
[07:59] <chrisw69> I have never used linux before
[07:59] <chrisw69> ok lol
[07:59] <XiCillin> awesome
[07:59] <WiFiTux> chrisw69: wassup?
[07:59] <chrisw69> nm i'm trying to get to grips with this
[07:59] <WiFiTux> chrisw69: wassup?
[07:59] <harrison> is there a chan for dapper only?
[07:59] <WiFiTux> halpo: i doubt it
[07:59] <nalioth> harrison: #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <moonlite> harrison: #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <WiFiTux> oh
[08:00] <moonlite> nalioth: yay!
[08:00] <robinl1> how to disable the screensaver without using the graphical dialog? (crashes at preview)
[08:00] <harrison> thx
[08:00] <WiFiTux> robinl1: ? killall screensaver?
[08:00] <Jarigo1> WiFiTux, i did?
[08:00] <Jarigo1> :S
[08:00] <Jarigo1> it said that.
[08:00] <SGershon> Somebody knows how to add an 'Open Terminal' option to desktop right-click?
[08:00] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: ok, you need to run that command agani and see fi the default changes to the one we want.
[08:01] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: else, dhclient eth1 again
[08:01] <chrisw69> Can anyone tell me how to fix my desktop, it's like 10-20 pixels off centre, my monitor has moved it over as far as it can
[08:01] <WiFiTux> chrisw69: you need the monitor to arrange that.
[08:01] <Jarigo1> GRR I DID!
[08:01] <Jarigo1> I pasted it to that paste bin!:|
[08:01] <userics> hi
[08:01] <Jarigo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9922
[08:01] <Jarigo1> Thats the output!
[08:01] <chrisw69> i have changed the monitor to try to sort it but it won't go any further
[08:02] <syllogism> has anyone else had a lot of  trouble with amaroK 1.3.7 on ubuntu? - I get a lot of crashes from it
[08:02] <chrisw69> i have a horrible line down the side of my screen
[08:02] <HymnToLife> syllogism> tried upgrading to 1.3.8 ?
[08:02] <userics> does anyone know how to get ati working properly, i still get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" after trying whats on the forums :|
[08:02] <WiFiTux> Jarigo1: i know. then ifconfig eth1 down, ifconfig wlan0 down and then try configuring them again with the eth1 being the last to be loaded.
[08:02] <SGershon> chrisw69, maybe it is set to use dual-monitor? (Maybe I'm saying something stupid)
[08:02] <syllogism> HymnToLife, is 1.3.8 in repository?
[08:02] <Jarigo1> k
[08:02] <maximaus> SGershon, I've got that, forgot how tho, just search the forums. :P
[08:02] <nalioth> SGershon: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[08:03] <WiFiTux> chrisw69: is your monitor LCD?
[08:03] <HymnToLife> syllogism> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.8.php
[08:03] <tituxx> hallo
[08:03] <tituxx> Hello World
[08:03] <joelw23> i need some help installing gcc
[08:03] <HymnToLife> instead of messing with the repos just for that, better download and install the debs imo
[08:04] <nalioth> tituxx: this is a help channel, not a social one. join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[08:04] <tituxx> I need some help installing itunes!
[08:04] <joelw23> getting no acceptable cc found
[08:04] <halpo> i installed unrar and tried to unrar some rar files but the unrar manual sucks so i did it wrong so could some one show me an example how to unrar
[08:04] <nalioth> joelw23: install "build-essential"
[08:04] <joelw23> ok
[08:04] <nalioth> halpo: did you install "unrar-nonfree" ?
[08:05] <userics> ATI , "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" ;;; any solutions?
[08:05] <joelw23> where do i get that??
[08:05] <Thug-N-Me> is " vmailadmin " available via apt ? any repo for it ?
[08:05] <nalioth> joelw23: use synaptic
[08:05] <halpo> i installed unrar
[08:05] <nalioth> halpo: install 'unrar-nonfree'
[08:05] <halpo> ok
[08:06] <tituxx> Hi, I need help to listen on music via internet (radiostasions)
[08:06] <Jarigo> okay
[08:06] <Jarigo> WiFiTux,
[08:06] <Jarigo> its the same
[08:06] <Jarigo> i put them down then brought them up
[08:06] <yaaar> word
[08:06] <tituxx> can anyone help me????
[08:07] <yaaar> tituxx: no one can help you now!
[08:07] <userics> shoutcast.com
[08:07] <nalioth> tituxx: you may join ##mac or ##apple or ##windows or ##macosx and ask there
[08:07] <userics> ATI , "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" ;;; any solutions?
[08:07] <halpo> nalioth, i already had that :)
[08:07] <nalioth> halpo: "unrar x file.rar"
[08:07] <nalioth> spb: howdy
[08:07] <Jarigo> WiFiTux, u there
[08:08] <syllogism> HymnToLife, Thank you - much appreciated
[08:08] <tituxx> so I can't do that in UBUNTU?
[08:08] <eXistenZ> How can I Install mplayer to work with firefox 1.5?
[08:08] <syllogism> eXistenZ, there's something called mplayer-plugin or something like that. . . worked great for me
[08:09] <sHaDe> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:09] <moparfan90> hello. i have the game cube downloaded ... and when i go to run the exe file i cant.. nothing happens... and its not a windows exe foel
[08:09] <yaaar> syllogism: for ff 1.5?
[08:09] <moparfan90> file*
[08:09] <joelw23> nalioth: where do i get synaptic
[08:09] <syllogism> yaaar, sorry?
[08:09] <SGershon> maximaus, thanks for the attention;
[08:09] <SGershon> nalioth, thanks for the link.
[08:09] <FlannelKing> nalioth: I hardly think that was requried, he just doesnt know how to behave in IRC
[08:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell joelw23 about synaptic
[08:09] <SGershon> nalioth, looking at it now. Cool site.
[08:09] <syllogism> yaaar,  - oh no, 1.0.7
[08:09] <yaaar> syllogism: i've got mplayer-plugin on firefox 1.0.x ......
[08:10] <Jarigo> WiFiTux, :| u there!!!!
[08:10] <nalioth> FlannelKing: he has been in and out of here several times today. he was given plenty of help when he first arrived.
[08:10] <yaaar> syllogism: but he's asking about 1.5
[08:10] <moparfan90> how do you run a executable in consle?
[08:10] <FlannelKing> nalioth: ah, wasnt aware of that.
[08:10] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104 (could not connect to peer(or something)) on X server. ----- No screen found. HELP1
[08:10] <syllogism> oh - sorry, I use 1.0.7
[08:10] <yaaar> moparfan90: if it's located in a directory in your $PATH, you can just type it's name
[08:10] <yaaar> moparfan90: otherwise, you have to specify the path explicitly
[08:11] <moparfan90> yaaar, ok
[08:11] <Jarigo> ffs.
[08:11] <Jarigo> :|
[08:11] <Jarigo> answer
[08:11] <yaaar> moparfan90: if it's in the same directory you're in, you can just do    ./app
[08:11] <zAo^> Ch1p_tut: change the hsync and vsync in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <yaaar> (where app is the name of your executable)
[08:11] <GnarusLeo> Hello! I have a XVGA (15,4") HP Pavilion ... wich use an ATI card. I am trying to install fglrx drivers, but when I do, the screen just flickers alot, and I cant see anything. Even though the X is running ... anyone can help?
[08:11] <markk> how do you install a .deb package?
[08:11] <joelw23> nalioth: where do i get synaptic
[08:11] <webex> anyone know how to replace all - whit a space using sed?
[08:11] <nalioth> joelw23: look at your private messages
[08:11] <zAo^> markk:  sudo dpkg -i <pkg>.deb
[08:11] <yaaar> so, does dapper use metacity's new compositing manager?
[08:12] <edward0> 's/-/ /'
[08:12] <Ch1p_tut> zAo^ thanx a bunch!
[08:12] <webex> edward0,  thanks
[08:12] <joelw23> thanks
[08:12] <yaaar> webex: i would think something like       sed s/-/ /g     ....but i'm not sure on that
[08:13] <edward0> webex: append g to it for global, 's/-/ /g'
[08:13] <userics> FFGLRXX Hellpp
[08:13] <syllogism> is there an easy way to disable some items from starting up with the computer?
[08:13] <userics> "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"  won't go away ;;::
[08:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell syllogism about bum
[08:13] <nalioth> syllogism: check your priv msgs
[08:14] <Thug-N-Me> syllogism install rcconf
[08:14] <zAo^> syllogism: run "gnome-session-properties"
[08:14] <nalioth> !bum
[08:14] <ubotu> I heard bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:14] <richie_> In my Home folder, I have a folder named "Documents." I use it to store Open Office documents (duh). It's not actually mounted like a hard drive or CD, but mounted is the way it's best described. It shows up in the Places menu along with the Computer folder and my mounted NTFS partition. Last time this happened (on a different Ubuntu installation), all I had to do was delete it from the Places column in a folder. It isn't showing
[08:14] <richie_>  up there this time. If I rename the file, it automatically removes itself. How do I fix this minor, but annoying problem? I want it gone.  *rollseyes*
[08:14] <syllogism> zAo^, I was more talking about things like apache, postgresql, sshd, and vsftpd
[08:14] <syllogism> thanks guys
[08:14] <zAo^> syllogism: k. Try "bum"
[08:14] <p0mppu> h-e-l-p :|
[08:15] <p0mppu> my X just got broken goddammit
[08:15] <Thug-N-Me> syllogism apt-get install rcconf , then run " rcconf " you`ll like it :)
[08:15] <zAo^> p0mppu: you did?
[08:15] <p0mppu> I tried doing a apt-get upgrade
[08:15] <syllogism> I'll try both
[08:15] <syllogism> thanks
[08:15] <Xamusk> is dapper going to take too much to be released?
[08:15] <Thug-N-Me> syllogism gnome-session-properties  doesnt list you up all the running services
[08:16] <syllogism> Thug-N-Me, I noticed - that's why I was curious if there was another approach lol
[08:16] <zAo^> p0mppu: to dapper?
[08:16] <nalioth> Xamusk: dapper releases april 20
[08:16] <p0mppu> gnome-btdownload failed
[08:16] <Xamusk> oh... too much to wait... :(
[08:16] <p0mppu> zAo^: yes
[08:16] <richie_> I have a folder in my Home called "Documents."  For some reason, it appears under Places with the Computer icon.  When I rename it, it goes away.  How do I keep it from appearing under Places?
[08:16] <yaaar> nalioth: do you know whether dapper uses metacity's new compositing manager?
[08:16] <zAo^> p0mppu: did you dist-upgrade ?
[08:16] <p0mppu> zAo^: no, just upgrade
[08:16] <p0mppu> it wasn't supposed to remove anything
[08:16] <syllogism> another question - is there a way to get amaroK to possibly buffer more of each song before it plays? - Right now if I do anything that appears to take some resources while amarok is playing - it starts skipping badly
[08:17] <ubuntu> boo
[08:17] <p0mppu> so I wonder why X got broken
[08:17] <zAo^> p0mppu: well, dist-upgrade afterwards
[08:17] <p0mppu> zAo^: but it tells me it removes programs
[08:17] <Jarigo> WiFiTux, :| u there!!!!
[08:17] <p0mppu> like hotplug for example
[08:17] <p0mppu> and k3b
[08:17] <xanathema> has the next name for ubuntu been thought up yet?
[08:17] <p0mppu> so it's not desireable
[08:17] <p0mppu> "do I have to?"
[08:17] <zAo^> p0mppu: yes, thats dist-upgrading to a testing version dude..
[08:17] <yaaar> xanathema: the next one after dapper drake?
[08:17] <slabby> can anyone help me install amsn please
[08:17] <xanathema> yaaar: yes, the one after dapper
[08:17] <p0mppu> zAo^: well I hope the apps come back when dapper is finally released?
[08:17] <slabby> I have the amd 64 version as a .bin file
[08:17] <yaaar> xanathema: i don't think so...
[08:18] <ubuntu> boo
[08:18] <xanathema> yaaar: any day now I guess :)
[08:18] <webex> edward0, if i want to do it to a env option like $USER  how do i do that? it looks for a file
[08:18] <zAo^> p0mppu: apps like what?
[08:18] <p0mppu> zAo^: apps like k3b, hotplug etc
[08:18] <zAo^> slabby: not in the repos?
[08:18] <slabby> zAo^, cant see it
[08:18] <zAo^> p0mppu: hotplug must be removed >> udev. k3b runs fine on my dapper
[08:19] <zAo^> slabby: universe / multiverse enabled?
[08:19] <slabby> zAo^, yep
[08:19] <edward0> webex: echo "$USER" | sed 's/-/ /g'
[08:19] <zAo^> slabby: hmm. lemme see
[08:19] <webex> edward0, oh.. of cours.. thanks a lot!
[08:20] <edward0> webex: np :)
[08:20] <slabby> zAo^, sos found it
[08:20] <yaaar> anybody know whether metacity's new compositing manager is turned on in dapper? like, to do drop-shadows, "wobbly minimize", etc. and to avoid window tearing and improve performance?
[08:20] <zAo^> slabby: there is a am64 version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amsn&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[08:20] <SirKillalot> how do I switch windows with bitchx?
[08:20] <SirKillalot> channels i.e.
[08:20] <yaaar> it's available in gnome 2.14, but requires some pretty new xorg stuff...
[08:21] <yaaar> so i was just wondering if dapper was going to use it....it sure seems cool
[08:21] <p0mppu> zAo^: well ok, I made it dist-upgrade..I hope you're right
[08:21] <zAo^> yaaar: donno, running compiz, but version is: 1:2.13.144-0ubuntu1
[08:21] <p0mppu> today nothing goes all right, my washing machine spit the water on the floor etc
[08:21] <p0mppu> damn
[08:21] <zAo^> p0mppu: You'll be fine :)
[08:21] <yaaar> zAo^: compiz?
[08:21] <ozgurgerilla> when I try installing ubuntu it goes to the command screen what do i do?
[08:21] <p0mppu> off for a while -->
[08:21] <Jarigo> WiFiTux, :| u there!!!!
[08:22] <zAo^> yaaar: Novell WM
[08:22] <edward0> SirKillalot: /window next ?
[08:22] <yaaar> zAo^: also, isn't that 2.13.x stuff just the 2.14 prereleases?
[08:22] <edward0> SirKillalot: /window help
[08:22] <yaaar> zAo^: oh nevermind
[08:23] <yaaar> zAo^: er....wait, so are you saying it's not using metacity at all?
[08:23] <jannov> hi, how can i rip video stream .ram ?
[08:23] <cyphase> stupid scheduled power outages
[08:23] <zAo^> yaaar: Yes, that's right. I use Xgl server, Compiz WM and Gnome 2.13.* DE (2.14 pre yes)
[08:23] <yaaar> gotcha
[08:24] <Xamusk> good... got swsusp working
[08:24] <yaaar> zAo^: well, the new metacity looks really slick...but I'm just trying to get a feel for what I might have to do to X to turn on the coolest part (the gl desktop rendering)
[08:25] <zAo^> yaaar: you have a spare computer? try dapper + xgl + compiz (see forums for instructions)
[08:25] <slabby> zAo^, but it wont download the package
[08:25] <slabby> zao^, sticks here 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com] 
[08:25] <markk> ok
[08:26] <ozgurgerilla> how the fu** do i install ubuntu?
[08:26] <markk> how does one get lpd installed on ubuntu?
[08:26] <zAo^> slabby: try to remove all the "gb."
[08:26] <markk> ozgurgerilla, real simple.  put in cd, boot, and let it install.
[08:26] <edward0> markk: cups?
[08:26] <yaaar> markk: based on his earlier comment, it looks like the installer may be bailing out on him
[08:27] <ozgurgerilla> markk: a dr-dos command appears
[08:27] <markk> well, i want to install a brother driver
[08:27] <WiFiTux> Jarigo: you need to play with it.
[08:27] <ozgurgerilla> what do i do there?
[08:27] <markk> and the brother driver wants lpd installed
[08:27] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: dr-dos? are you sure it's booting from the install cd?
[08:27] <markk> but it has a cups wrapper for it
[08:27] <Xamusk> oops... swsusp turned off my sound :O
[08:27] <markk> the brother drivers come as .deb files
[08:28] <jannov> why is clipboard in ubuntu so weird ? :)
[08:28] <pippijn> hi all, what could it be that I can ssh to a box with root but not with a normal user account?
[08:28] <me2win> if i have an ATI card, I don't need the NVIDIA binary kernel module on boot up, right?
[08:28] <xanathema> jannov: it is?  seems to work pretty normally...
[08:29] <ozgurgerilla> what is caldera dr-dos?
[08:29] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: in other words....the ubuntu install cd definitely does not contain or run any sort of dos, so if you are really seeing caldera's name anyplace, it's not booting from the cd
[08:29] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: it's basically comparable to ms-dos or pc-dos
[08:30] <ozgurgerilla> ok
[08:30] <markk> caldera's dr dos is often used to format drives, check drives, or put on bootable cd's to manipulate or test hard drives
[08:30] <markk> it is used for almost nothing else
[08:30] <SGershon> After installiing phpMyAdmin, I have a "eeds a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)" error.
[08:30] <netstalker> Greetings Ubuntu dudes!
[08:31] <yaaar> markk: a few touch-screen bar games
[08:31] <SGershon> I edited blowfish_secret.inc.php, and still the error.
[08:31] <markk> which means you're booting from  drive that has been previously prepred using dr dos, or  from a cd that's actually not ubuntu
[08:31] <yaaar> markk: but most are on linux these days
[08:31] <trappist> pippijn: does /etc/nologin exist on the box?
[08:31] <pippijn> yes
[08:31] <trappist> remove it
[08:31] <pippijn> why?
[08:31] <trappist> it's the cause of your problem
[08:31] <pippijn> hmm
[08:32] <trappist> something didn't go right when the machine was booting - that file is supposed to get deleted when you're all booted up.
[08:32] <pippijn> ah..
[08:32] <ozgurgerilla> yaar: now its booting from the cd rom but still goes to caldera's dr-rom with A:\> .... what do i do?
[08:32] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: you're sure there's not a floppy in the drive?
[08:32] <ozgurgerilla> dnt have a floppy
[08:33] <pippijn> trappist: gone, still doesn't work
[08:33] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: then it looks like you've got dos on the hard drive and it's booting from that
[08:33] <pippijn> restarted sshd too
[08:33] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: check bios settings....
[08:33] <trappist> pippijn: anything interesting in /var/log/auth.log?
[08:33] <pippijn> isn't there
[08:33] <ozgurgerilla> yaar: what do I do in bios?\
[08:33] <trappist> pippijn: also, what error do you get when you try to ssh in?
[08:33] <pippijn> I am asking for /var/log/secure now
[08:33] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: change the boot order so it tries the cd first
[08:33] <pippijn> trappist: remote closed conn
[08:34] <pippijn> after providing the correct password
[08:34] <ozgurgerilla> i have..
[08:34] <pippijn> what is "PermitUserEnvironment no"?
[08:34] <trappist> pippijn: is this breezy?
[08:34] <trappist> pippijn: it's in the sshd_config man page
[08:34] <pippijn> trappist: it is no ubuntu.. I don't know what it is but not ubuntu. I came here because I use ubuntu and I like the community
[08:35] <pippijn> able people etc.
[08:35] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found
[08:35] <Ven] n^> i just installed ubuntu, and boot stops at starting hotplug subsystem.. any clues?
[08:35] <ozgurgerilla> yaaar: any other ideas? tried it but doesnt work?
[08:35] <pippijn> I don't own the box, I want ssh to it
[08:35] <trappist> pippijn: I see.  on ubuntu there would be useful information in /var/log/auth.log.  not sure where to have you look on your box.
[08:35] <pippijn> I do
[08:35] <pippijn> and the owner is looking at it now
[08:35] <netstalker> Has anyone been able to install and run Enlightenment on Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[08:35] <pippijn> or at least I told him to
[08:35] <trappist> ok
[08:35] <Ven] n^> its version 5.10
[08:36] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: not really....
[08:36] <pippijn> maybe if he can get vnc up...
[08:36] <netstalker> Ven] n disable your "firewire" and it should continue to install
[08:36] <Ven] n^> how?
[08:37] <mikael_> Hi does anybody know how I make my gnome-session (panel and nautilus) only appear on display :0.0 (I have :0.0 and :0.1) I tried putting DISPLAY=:0.0 in $HOME/.gnomerc but it doesn't have any effect! I still see the panel and a nautilus desktop on :0.1 ??
[08:37] <pippijn> I know :) I will do vnc
[08:37] <netstalker> in your BIOS setting just turn it off
[08:37] <pippijn> it will be faster if I look at the system
[08:37] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found _ (my hz settings are following: 28 - 51 _ 43 - 60)
[08:37] <pippijn> but what is "PermitUserEnvironment no"?
[08:37] <ozgurgerilla> yaaar: am i meant to get the caldoras dos? and the command A:\>
[08:37] <pippijn> in sshd_config
[08:37] <ozgurgerilla> if yes what do i type?\
[08:37] <joelw23> how do i get qmake
[08:38] <Ven] n^> netstalker, can i just shutdown by power button?
[08:38] <yaaar> ozgurgerilla: no, like i said, caldera dr-dos has *absolutely nothing* to do with ubuntu. if you are seeing that, then whatever you are booting from is *not* an ubuntu install cd
[08:38] <netstalker> yes
[08:38] <Ven] n^> thank you
[08:38] <netstalker> NP had the same trouble with my new machine
[08:39] <netstalker> exit
[08:40] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found _ (my hz settings are following: 28 - 51 _ 43 - 60)
[08:41] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found _ (my hz settings are following: 28 - 51 _ 43 - 60)
[08:42] <chrisw69> heh I found the problem with my monitor and desktop problem
[08:42] <chrisw69> monitor doesn't fully support 75hz ;\
[08:42] <pippijn> trappist: it is a pam problem
[08:43] <trappist> pippijn: what did you find?
[08:43] <pippijn> pam: permission denied
[08:43] <pippijn> something like that
[08:43] <trappist> bleh.  that's not every helpful.
[08:43] <pippijn> PAM session failed
[08:43] <pippijn> perms denied
[08:43] <pippijn> and fatal..
[08:43] <chrisw69> Can anyone help me with something?
[08:43] <pippijn> and after accepted password
[08:44] <trappist> pippijn: sounds like bad file permissions somewhere, but without more verbose logs it's gonna be tough to track down
[08:44] <pippijn> how can I make it more verbose?
[08:44] <plagiats-gnomeXP> hi, I'm trying to make gnome look like winxp (to show that linux may not systematically disturbs habits of users). Do any one of you know where  I can find windows XP icons please ?
[08:45] <Ven] n^> i just installed ubuntu, and boot stops at "starting hotplug subsystem".. any clues?
[08:45] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found _ (my hz settings are following: 28 - 51 _ 43 - 60)
[08:45] <reinheart> guys, i have a dri issue on an Intel 855GM based board, it worked on default Xorg came with Dapper Drake but when I installed Xgl dri is no longer working, any hints on making it work with Xgl ?
[08:45] <pippijn> hm
[08:45] <pippijn> trappist: I am looking at /etc/pam.d/sshd
[08:46] <pippijn> trappist: it says auth required pam_nologin.so
[08:46] <pippijn> and
[08:46] <pippijn> account required pam_stack.so service=system-auth
[08:46] <pippijn> and!
[08:46] <me2win> plagiats-gnomeXP, check gnome-look.org
[08:46] <pippijn> session required pam_selinux.so
[08:46] <pippijn> what about selinux
[08:47] <plagiats-gnomeXP> me2win, I did. actually I think I just found what I was looking for : http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/experience/
[08:47] <WiFiTux> anyone knos how can I give a simple user rights to a mounted HD? something about the mask I remember.,
[08:47] <trappist> pippijn: check out my /etc/pam.d/ssh -> http://linuxkungfu.org/tmp/ssh
[08:47] <pippijn> commenting it out doesn't help
[08:48] <chrisw69> Is it possible for me to access my primary hard drive containing the windows xp partition (NTFS) from my slave hard drive running linux?
[08:48] <pippijn> I will put this up on rafb.net/paste
[08:48] <chrisw69> I want to listen to my music on both xp and linux
[08:48] <me2win> chrisw69, yes, you need to mount it
[08:49] <chrisw69> I'm really new to linux, do you want to explain in more detail
[08:49] <WiFiTux> !umask
[08:49] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, WiFiTux
[08:49] <WiFiTux> dammed
[08:49] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found . HELP!
[08:50] <pippijn> http://rafb.net/paste/results/CkxHaA82.html
[08:50] <me2win> sure chrisw69, in order to see devices. Linux has to "mount" them in order to do things with them. In this case, you want to use a hard drive in your computer, so you have to mount it and make it accessible. Think of a mount point as a ship dock. You have to dock the ship before you can unload the goods.
[08:51] <chrisw69> right..
[08:51] <chrisw69> thanks
[08:51] <chrisw69> Could you explain how to do ths?
[08:51] <me2win> so what you have to do is mount the hard drive, you can do that by talking to ubotu :D
[08:51] <chrisw69> I don't want to waste your time :\
[08:51] <me2win> !mount
[08:51] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:51] <pippijn> trappist: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CkxHaA82.html
[08:51] <me2win> !windowsdrives
[08:51] <ubotu> windowsdrives is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:51] <me2win> ^-- That one chrisw69
[08:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hi, I have a full version windows xp and ubuntu linux running, can I use vmware to access my windows xp inside linux??
[08:52] <trappist> pippijn: my guess is it's an selinux issue
[08:52] <trappist> pippijn: and I have no experience with selinux
[08:53] <reinheart> keithhhhhhhhh : No.  VMWare is a virtual machine and you have to install Windows XP inside it again
[08:53] <jerware> keithhhhhh: see winie
[08:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> crap
[08:53] <jerware> wine
[08:53] <pippijn> oh
[08:53] <pippijn> yes
[08:53] <pippijn> trappist: I found it in some forum
[08:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> reinheart - is there anyway to do what I said?
[08:53] <jerware> wine but it's a bitch and a half
[08:53] <chrisw69> me2win, would this cause any problems when asking the windows partition in windows?
[08:53] <jerware> there's a win4lin
[08:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> jerware - ya but wine is an emulator
[08:54] <jerware> ahh
[08:54] <jerware> riht
[08:54] <reinheart> keithhhhhhhhh : Depends on how you define "access"
[08:54] <trappist> keithhhhhhhhh: you can use vmware to boot the windows partition, but the real windows partition may never boot again if you do that.
[08:54] <me2win> chrisw69, do you mean will you mounting in linux cause problems when you want to use windows? no
[08:54] <chrisw69> thanks
[08:54] <reinheart> keithhhhhhhhh : If you meant accessing the partition and running Windows programs you need Wine
[08:54] <WiFiTux> can anyone give me a line for fstab to give acess to users on anothr partition"?
[08:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> reinheart - I meant run windows programs
[08:55] <goodboy> hello
[08:56] <chrisw69> linux allows you to play mp3 doesn't it?
[08:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmmm I guess Ill try wine for now
[08:56] <me2win> chrisw69, yes
[08:56] <chrisw69> :p
[08:56] <WiFiTux> chrisw69: www.ubuntu.com / WiKi / in the search mp3
[08:56] <me2win> chrisw69, its a fair question :D
[08:56] <goodboy> where i can find room ubuntu fransh
[08:56] <goodboy> ???
[08:56] <WiFiTux> lol
[08:56] <me2win> goodboy, frances?
[08:56] <chrisw69> I'm sure you get annoyed at all these nooby questions we ask!
[08:56] <WiFiTux> #ubuntu-fr?
[08:56] <me2win> chrisw69, nah
[08:56] <me2win> !fr
[08:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:56] <goodboy> oui je vexu un room fr
[08:57] <goodboy> svp
[08:57] <goodboy> thanks
[08:57] <WiFiTux> bien
[08:57] <me2win> no problem
[08:57] <Ch1p_tut> fatal IO error 104(no remote connection to peer or something) on x server. - no screen found . HELP!
[08:58] <WiFiTux> can anyone give me a line for fstab to give acess to users on anothr partition"?
[08:58] <Seewai> change the umask? or the user?
[08:58] <WiFiTux> Seewai: dunno
[08:58] <Seewai> what is it exactly that you want to do?
[08:59] <WiFiTux> Seewai: let my users RW to the new HD
[08:59] <Seewai> then something like:
[08:59] <Seewai> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,gid=100,umask=002              0       0
[08:59] <DShepherd> the breezy iso's that are on ubuntulinux.org are up-to-date with the latest patches and stuff?
[09:00] <pippijn> trappist: fixed it
[09:00] <marie_> does anyone know any file where i can put command-lines to be run at startup?
[09:00] <pippijn> it was a selinux thing
[09:00] <HappyFool> DShepherd: i doubt it
[09:00] <Seewai> might do the trick. gid=100 means make it group-owned by group users, and umask=002 means give full rwx to the group owner
[09:00] <DShepherd> HappyFool: :-(.. not kool
[09:00] <HappyFool> DShepherd: i suspect the iso's are frozen on release
[09:00] <HappyFool> DShepherd: release management is hard ;)
[09:00] <thegladiator> here is my screenshot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9925
[09:00] <DShepherd> HappyFool: ok... I guess your right
[09:00] <trappist> pippijn: awesome
[09:00] <DShepherd> HappyFool: thanks..
[09:00] <thegladiator> simple clear looks :/
[09:00] <sbalneav> DShepherd: Simply install the iso's and breezy will then prompt to install the updates the first time you log in
[09:01] <DShepherd> sbalneav: yeah kool
[09:01] <WiFiTux> Seewai: [4316624.941000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "gid=100" or missing value
[09:01] <thegladiator> tell me how to like it
[09:01] <trappist> I don't think gid is a valid option for ext3
[09:01] <thegladiator> do you*
[09:01] <ShanghaiTeej> I have like 9 floppy disc drives in my /media folder, the problem is, I don't have any floppy drives hooked up to my computer...how do i get ride of these?
[09:02] <trappist> I think that's just for vfat and ntfs
[09:02] <pippijn> trappist: /me happy :)
[09:02] <trappist> ShanghaiTeej: known issue in dapper.
[09:02] <ShanghaiTeej> thank you
[09:02] <WiFiTux> trappist: right, I do have ext3
[09:02] <trappist> ShanghaiTeej: get rid of the offending lines in /etc/fstab
[09:02] <trappist> ShanghaiTeej: also for dapper questions please /join #ubuntu+1
[09:02] <cinder_> Anyone can helpme with engage??
[09:02] <_Felix> hello
[09:02] <trappist> ShanghaiTeej: in here it's generally assumed you're running breezy
[09:02] <thegladiator> hey _Felix
[09:02] <_Felix> Can anyone help me with files
[09:03] <Seewai> WiFiTux: you're right, back to the drawing board
[09:03] <thegladiator> _Felix, askway
[09:03] <_Felix> I need vmalloc.h and slab.h?
[09:03] <_Felix> Please
[09:03] <thegladiator> do a google please
[09:03] <trappist> _Felix: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:04] <The87Boy> I need a driver to a Nokia 3200. Can't find them via google
[09:04] <_Felix> I dont have internet... :-/
[09:04] <_Felix> Need this files to compile the fix for my SM56 :)
[09:04] <trappist> _Felix: well you need the headers for your running kernel somehow.
[09:04] <_Felix> well, can anyone send me theese please... :/
[09:04] <marie_> could anyone help please?
[09:04] <_Felix> It's about 1-3 MB, and... :/
[09:04] <marie_> i need to run some commands at every startup
[09:05] <marie_> but i dont know where to put tzhem
[09:05] <munti78> I want to update screem from 0.12.1 to 0.16.1, how would I do that?
[09:05] <chrisw69> me2win, hi again, i have been reading that page shown and it said the steps are automatic on ubuntu 5.10
[09:05] <HappyFool> marie_: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is an easy but hacky option
[09:05] <Seewai> marie_: different places are appropriate for different kinds of commands, what is it you want to do?
[09:05] <me2win> chrisw69, im going to private message you k?
[09:06] <marie_> like xbindkeys...
[09:06] <HappyFool> marie_: make sure your commands come *before* the exit 0; also, i'm not sure about when in the boot process bootmisc.sh gets called
[09:06] <marie_> and s3switch...
[09:06] <cvtboudreaux> the 64 and 32 bit flight 4 cds dont boot on my computer.... strange
[09:06] <cinder_> marie_, system - administratios - sessions
[09:06] <munti78> anyone?
[09:06] <_Felix> ^^
[09:07] <cinder_> marie_, sorry, preferencies - sessions and then startup programs
[09:07] <DoTheRodeo_> how do you kill gnome-panel?
[09:07] <cinder_> munti78, sudo apt-get upgrade screem
[09:07] <The87Boy> Somebody in here who know where I can find a driver to Nokia 3200? I already have googled it
[09:07] <_Felix> proccess skill
[09:07] <marie_> very kind!
[09:07] <ShanghaiTeej> killall gnome-panel
[09:07] <marie_> thx
[09:07] <_Felix> Nokia 3200 ?
[09:07] <DoTheRodeo_> thanks
[09:07] <ShanghaiTeej> no problem
[09:07] <The87Boy> _Felix, Yes
[09:08] <_Felix> Is 'vmalloc.h' the same as 'malloc.h' ?
[09:08] <USB-man> hello !
[09:08] <USB-man> how can i format an external usb hard rive ?
[09:08] <concept10> The87Boy, what is the Nokia 3200
[09:08] <_Felix> 87: wait a sev
[09:08] <ubuntu> hi. does anyone have any examples of a dapper sources.list?
[09:08] <USB-man> drive*
[09:08] <munti78> cinder_: thanks
[09:08] <ShanghaiTeej> get gparted, it's a pretty good tool for formating
[09:08] <The87Boy> concept10, An mobile phone
[09:08] <concept10> !dapper
[09:08] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[09:09] <_Felix> Hello!
[09:09] <ubuntu> yeah, they arent answering over in ubuntu+1..
[09:09] <me2win> chrisw69, did you get my messages?
[09:09] <cvtboudreaux> does anyone else have the problem of the flight 4 live cds not working?
[09:09] <_Felix> I tried to search my computer for : 'slab.h' and 'vmalloc.h' but havent FOUND it!
[09:09] <Draconicus> I installed an ethernet controller card AFTER installing Ubuntu. How can I make Ubuntu recognize and use my card? It doesn't automatically.
[09:10] <HappyFool> _Felix: use packages.ubuntu.com -- it looks like vmalloc.h is a kernel header file
[09:10] <_Felix> thanks! eerm... HappyFool
[09:10] <cinder_> Anyone can helpme with engage??
[09:10] <cvtboudreaux> i guess not
[09:11] <cinder_> I cannot launch engage
[09:11] <cinder_> properly
[09:11] <richard> how can i use g++ under kde?
[09:11] <CarlFK> what is the name of the VM that runs on Linux?
[09:11] <chrisw69> me2win
[09:11] <chrisw69> yes i did, i can't post the messages though
[09:11] <me2win> chrisw69, ah, you need to register it says right?
[09:12] <chrisw69> yes
[09:12] <me2win> register with nickserv real quick
[09:12] <chrisw69> ok
[09:12] <The87Boy> Somebody :'( How can help you with that mobile phone driver (Nokia 3200)? I already I have tried everything, I guess
[09:13] <_Felix> could it be in usr/share/doc folder?
[09:14] <Syco54645> i am having some problems with firefox in breezy.  i am running ff 1.5, but when it is rendering a page it uses alot of my processor (gkrellm reports 99% of processor usage when it is rendering).  does anyone know why this would be happening?
[09:14] <davro> are there any other decent ftp/sftp clients something like mac transmit would be a dream, gFTP keeps crashing on dapper.
[09:14] <_Felix> hehe
[09:14] <_Felix> Memory leak
[09:14] <The87Boy> Syco54645, do you have some extensions installed?
[09:14] <_Felix> Dont use that version!
[09:14] <slabby> is odd around?
[09:14] <dee_> hello.
[09:15] <_Felix> It happens to everyone... 50 MB of memory!
[09:15] <Syco54645> The87Boy: yeah but i was having this problem before i installed them.
[09:15] <_Felix> eats up your RAM
[09:15] <richard> how can i use gcc or g++ under kde? before i use gnome and i don't have any problem?
[09:15] <dee_> I habe a little question concerning zenity? Do anyone use it?
[09:15] <Syco54645> davro: gftp crashes on any version.
[09:15] <GC-scoolioke> hmm I've an old 450 Mhz pc here, somebody suggested me to install Xubuntu on it so i followed the instruction on the ubuntu site but now I have a problem. When i start up the program I just get a black screen... Does anybody know how I can solve that problem?
[09:15] <slabby> are you here odd?
[09:16] <The87Boy> Syco54645, then I don't know :(
[09:16] <GC-scoolioke> they told me to search for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:16] <Draconicus> Can anyone help me with my ethernet card problem? D:
[09:16] <GC-scoolioke> I found some warnings but no errors
[09:16] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, you may need to reconfig X for lower resolution
[09:16] <Syco54645> The87Boy: i have tab mix plus, flashgot, and adblock installed for my extensions
[09:16] <MASTER_NET> gorna
[09:16] <GC-scoolioke> concept10: how do i do that?
[09:16] <MASTER_NET> axaxa
[09:16] <concept10> Syco54645, explain flashgot to me
[09:17] <The87Boy> I also have flashgot and adblock installed, so it couldn't be them
[09:17] <Syco54645> concept10: um recursive downloading of all links on a webpage.  only does it when i tell it to though.  it works alot like flashget
[09:17] <Syco54645> there was an update to tabmix plus
[09:17] <Syco54645> so i just got that maybe there was a problem with it
[09:18] <dee_> Draconicus: if it's an "easy to solve" problem I can help ... maybe. :)
[09:18] <Syco54645> The87Boy: what version of firefox are you using?
[09:18] <Draconicus> dee_: How do I use an ethernet card that I just added? It wasn't in the machine when I installed Ubuntu.
[09:19] <richard> anyone can helpe me to use gcc or g++ under Kde?
[09:19] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, if you could, (or know how) reboot in the recovery mode (command line only)  and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf) remove the resolutions for your card to handle
[09:19] <davro> Syco54645: fair enough gFTP sucks then, any recommendations for an X based ftp/sftp client ?
[09:19] <Syco54645> nope it is still doing it.  and it takes forever to load pages, and they are just on my local machine!
[09:20] <GC-scoolioke> thx alot concept10, i'm going to try that
[09:20] <keithhhhhhhhh> how can I search all the directories from the root for a particular file?
[09:20] <Syco54645> davro: no not really.  i have been using winscp with wine (no config needed) to do ssh transfers to my web server, but i think it also does ftp
[09:20] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, you know how to use nano?
[09:20] <Syco54645> keithhhhhhhhh: find / | grep _file_
[09:20] <dee_> Draconicus: hm, sorry... don't know this.
[09:21] <Syco54645> keithhhhhhhhh: or you can use slocate file (this is faster, but you need to run a sudo updatedb)
[09:21] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, its just a simple text editor, just go down and that file and delete the extra resolutions above 1024x768
[09:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> thanks
[09:21] <Syco54645> np
[09:21] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, and then save, back at the command line do a sudo reboot
[09:22] <Syco54645> keithhhhhhhhh: i use slocate just because it is so much faster once the db is made.  just set a cron job to run ubdatedb every so often that way you never have to worry about it
[09:22] <GC-scoolioke> concept10: i'm a total linux noob but i'll try to do my best. if it's a simple text editor I think I'll find it :-)
[09:22] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya I just tried slocate thanks  ;)
[09:22] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, its simple, Ctrl X is save
[09:22] <davro> Syco54645: That sounds quite a work around, i use scp on the command line or secpanel for gui based scp transfer client, but im after a ftp/sftp client kinda like the mac transmit.
[09:23] <keithhhhhhhhh> syco - Im still screwed, I misinstalled wine and I dont know where all the files went :S
[09:23] <Enthusiast78> greetings! how do I set the 'recovery mode' entries in the 'automagic kernel list' in grub?
[09:23] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, are you on a linux box now?
[09:23] <Enthusiast78> sorry... how do I set them as 'lock
[09:23] <dee_> Draconicus: what did "lspci" return?
[09:23] <The87Boy> concept10, It's when you have more than one download managers, you can choose which to use
[09:23] <Syco54645> davro: well winscp has sftp support, but i dont know what mac transmit is like
[09:24] <The87Boy> Syco54645, Also 1.5
[09:24] <concept10> The87Boy, I guess I dont get it, I just use the default download manager
[09:24] <Syco54645> The87Boy: maybe it is flashgot then, but it is rated so highly
[09:24] <GC-scoolioke> concept10: no, i'm starting him up right now
[09:24] <The87Boy> Syco54645,  don't know. It could maybe be.
[09:24] <pinkisntwell>  i just installed a new monitor and ubuntu will only let me choose 640x480 and 60Hz
[09:24] <Draconicus> dee_: It sees the card, but it's not using it. It IS possible that the card simply doesn't function properly due to a certain area of RAM not being free, but this seems unlikely at best.
[09:25] <ramvi> Heya! Thanks for a great distro! :) I need an app like multisim. A circuit simulator... Any ideas?
[09:25] <concept10> The87Boy, but I remember back when I used windows back in 2000, I had a program that would make multiple connections to one download site for one file, it used to be really fast
[09:25] <Enthusiast78> I mean, without having to alter the entries in the automagic kernel list.
[09:25] <concept10> ramvi, open up synaptic, there some there
[09:25] <richard> how can i exit from aplication which is blocked?
[09:25] <The87Boy> concept10, Yes, it's the reason why FlashGot are being used
[09:26] <Draconicus> Will Ubuntu generally see and use an ethernet card if it suddenly exists on the system at boot?
[09:26] <dee_> Draconicus: shouldn't be... could you activate it with "sudo ifconfig eth0 $IP netmask $netmask up", see "man ifconfig" for correct syntax.
[09:26] <concept10> The87Boy, ok, i get it
[09:26] <davro> Syco54645: Im not really a mac fan, but at work we have started using them, and Transmit really doe the business just wondered,  Cheers for your time anyway =>
[09:27] <dee_> Draconicus: I don't think so... It will recognize it but you first must configure it.
[09:27] <The87Boy> concept10, Great. Then you have lerned something today ;)
[09:27] <Enthusiast78> What I want is to protect the system from someone booting in 'recovery mode' and messing it up...
[09:27] <ramvi> concept10, what do I search for?
[09:27] <Draconicus> dee_: Well, how do I configure it? That's the problem.
[09:27] <Syco54645> davro: sorry i couldnt be more help, good luck.  you may check gentoo-portage.com as they have a nice online version of portage there with screen shots and you can search it.  that is what i use at least
[09:27] <concept10> ramvi, maybe electronic
[09:27] <ramvi> :/
[09:28] <Draconicus> Rephrased question: How do I configure a newly added ethernet card?
[09:28] <ClayG> any tips for getting a mic to work with ubuntu?
[09:28] <Enthusiast78> Draconicus, You can edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:29] <pinkisntwell> i installed a new video card and xorg.conf still has my old one, how do I make it see the new one?
[09:29] <Draconicus> ClayG: Run alsamixer and unmute the Mic channel. Alternatively, try the input section in GNOME volume manager.
[09:29] <dee_> Draconicus: I think with ifconfig you could do this... but you must add it manually to /ect/network/interfaces.
[09:29] <concept10> ramvi, in synaptic, hit the sections tab on left and look at Electronics (universe)
[09:29] <Enthusiast78> Draconicus, Just copying another card's block and changing the values to the new one will do. Then /etc/init.d/network restart to apply changes.
[09:29] <Draconicus> dee_: Thanks! That's the most help I've had in days!
[09:29] <Draconicus> Enthusiast78: There has been no card previous to this one...
[09:30] <Stormx2> how do I install dapper from breezy? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Draconicus> Enthusiast78: Thanks, though. I'll use your help and dee_'s in combination.
[09:30] <dee_> Draconicus: Really? Aren't the people helpful here? ;)
[09:30] <Draconicus> dee_: Not when it's a question that actually requires thought to answer. :\
[09:30] <Enthusiast78> Draconicus, No problem, 'man interfaces' will give you an example of how /etc/interfaces should look like. ;)
[09:30] <richard> hey anyone know how to exit from an aplication which is blocked?
[09:31] <ClayG> how can i test it after i run also mixer, and which button is the toggle? to unmute, it looks liek can rasie the volume but it's still muted, Drac[Server] 
[09:31] <Draconicus> Enthusiast78: Cool. Thanks. :D
[09:31] <ClayG> how can i test it after i run also mixer, and which button is the toggle? to unmute, it looks liek can rasie the volume but it's still muted, Dracc
[09:31] <ClayG> ghegeg
[09:31] <ClayG> er
[09:31] <ramvi> concept10, synapic won't start for a reason. Everything is working fine with apt-get update...
[09:31] <dee_> Draconius: You must only add "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "auto eth0" to your interfaces-file. (in case it is eth0).
[09:31] <Draconicus> ClayG: Hit the 'm' key.
[09:31] <Stormx2> ramvi: tried "gksudo synaptic" in the terminal. What happens then?
[09:31] <ClayG> thanks alot
[09:31] <GC-scoolioke> concept10: I deleted everything bigger than 800x600 but I still have the same problem
[09:31] <concept10> ramvi, you cant use apt-get and synaptic at the same time
[09:32] <Draconicus> dee_: Okay.
[09:32] <dee_> richard: Do you know how to use a terminal?
[09:32] <Enthusiast78> richard, Right-click your panel, then add the "Force Quit" app.
[09:32] <ramvi> concept10, yeah I know
[09:32] <richard> dee_ :yes
[09:32] <dee_> Draconicus: but listen to Enthusiast78 also an read "man interfaces"
[09:32] <ramvi> Stormx2, hehe, right. Found the sudo with alt-tab
[09:32] <ramvi> tnx
[09:33] <dee_> richard: then type "ps -ef | grep name", where name is the name of the application than hangs.
[09:33] <ClayG> Draconicus, sorry last one. It sounds liek it may be working  jsut cause the extra snow, but how can i test this? whats a recording software i can grab quiclkly and try it ou?
[09:33] <concept10> GC-scoolioke, maybe try to reconfigure X at the command line,
[09:33] <dee_> you will get the PID above then kill it with "kill PID" or maybe "kill -9 PID" or "sudo kill PID" if it's not you app.
[09:33] <Draconicus> ClayG: Just tap your finger on the mic... :P
[09:33] <ClayG> damn
[09:34] <Draconicus> ClayG: Yeah... you might not want to crank it up...
[09:34] <ClayG> i was worried it was like that, still isn't working i also went into system>pref>multimedia selector and have been fiddling with that
[09:35] <Draconicus> ClayG: I dunno. :\
[09:35] <Stormx2> he went
[09:35] <Stormx2> lol
[09:37] <coyctecm> mozilla-vlc-plugin is not working I get "no picture" when try to watch streams from internet
[09:37] <richard> dee_:  i eject that command but the program continue block
[09:38] <duri> can you install Ubuntu over the serial console w/out surprises ?
[09:38] <dee_> richard: try "sudo kill -v -9 PID". what the message then?
[09:38] <dee_> @all: Did anyone use zenity???
[09:40] <jimcooncat> dee_ I've played with zenity, I think its fun
[09:41] <Psykus> is there anyway to use the xbox live communicator under ubuntu/linux? i have the controller plugged into the computer already, the communicator should show up as another USB device
[09:42] <dee_> jimcooncat: great... my zenity acts funny. :( It ignores the ~ if i want to show an icon.
[09:43] <jimcooncat> dee_, like "zenity --window-icon=~/myicon.png --text "what are you doing?"
[09:43] <dee_> jimcooncat: if I use "zenity --notification --window-icon=/home/dee/icon.png" everything is fine. If i use "zenity --notification --window-icon=~/icon.png" it says "Could not load notification icon"
[09:44] <Hatfield> how do i login as root, the su command is not working
[09:44] <dee_> jimcooncat: see above... text was a little bit longer.
[09:44] <Hatfield> ex sudo apt-get install (***
[09:44] <dee_> Hatfield: not teh correct answer but you should login as root. Just do "sudo".
[09:45] <nalioth> Hatfield: the root account is locked by design
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Hatfield about root
[09:45] <nalioth> Hatfield: read your priv msgs
[09:45] <jimcooncat> dee_, try wrapping the path like --windowicon=`~/icon.png`
[09:45] <Hatfield> so do i put sudo infront ofcommands i want to run as root?
[09:45] <nalioth> Hatfield: correct
[09:45] <jimcooncat> dee_, to make bash resolve it before passing the string along
[09:46] <Enthusiast78> Hatfield, If you REALLY want to be logged as root, you can 'exec sudo su -', but I guess that should be avoided whenever possible.
[09:46] <keithhhhhhhhh> can some one tell me how to fix this problem "status database area is locked by another process"
[09:46] <nalioth> Enthusiast78: please don't advise that. sudo is capable of doing anything su does.
[09:46] <nalioth> Hatfield: if you need a 'root terminal' use "sudo -i"
[09:46] <Enthusiast78> nalioth, sorry. :o|
[09:46] <dee_> jimcooncat: I've tried it with " ' ` and ... nothings works.
[09:47] <dee_> keithhhhhhhhh: did you have synaptic or something else open?
[09:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> I dont think so
[09:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> should I just logout and back in
[09:47] <jimcooncat> dee_, how about $HOME
[09:47] <dee_> could help but if there is really a lock file that hasn't been deleted then this wouldn't help.. but try it...
[09:48] <dee_> jimcooncat: thanks, that works... :)
[09:48] <Hatfield> do yall use kismet?
[09:48] <dee_> would be interesting to know why it won't work with ~ but anyway.
[09:48] <linuxN00B> I have not been able to instal flashplayer I ahve tried sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla;
[09:48] <linuxN00B>  and I get E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla. any help?
[09:49] <dee_> keithhhhhhhhh: i have answered you above.
[09:49] <Psykus> i broke the internet :O
[09:50] <Hatfield> do yall use kismet?
[09:50] <dee_> Psykus: yeah someone did something wrong... ;)
[09:50] <dr_kabuto> #ubuntu-devel
[09:50] <p0mppu> exit
[09:51] <Seveas> ok, who tripped over the powercable?
[09:51] <Hatfield> how do i rup app as root when its an icon
[09:51] <Enthusiast78> Seveas, LOL!
[09:51] <coyctecm> anyone get vlc-mozilla-plugin working amd64
[09:51] <linuxN00B> I have not been able to instal flashplayer I ahve tried sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla; and I get E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla. any help?
[09:51] <dr_kabuto> #ubuntu-devel
[09:51] <Psykus> Seveas, I broke the internet, i'm sorry
[09:51] <dee_> hm, someone has fun with it....
[09:52] <Seveas> Psykus, I'm tempted to kick you :
[09:52] <FlannelKing> We're alll going to dieeee!! sigh.
[09:52] <Hatfield> how do i rup app as root when its an icon
[09:52] <Seveas> Hatfield, which app?
[09:52] <me2win> w3wt
[09:52] <me2win> netsplit
[09:52] <Hatfield> any of them from the gui?
[09:53] <Seveas> you shouldn't just run apps as root...
[09:53] <Enthusiast78> Hatfield, Most apps thar require root permission will ask for your password.
[09:53] <Hatfield> how do i run them as root?
[09:53] <Seveas> Hatfield, you shouldn't
[09:54] <Hatfield> i know, but how do i?
[09:54] <Seveas> ..
[09:54] <Enthusiast78> Hatfield, Just click on them, if they need extra permission, they'll ask for your password.
[09:54] <Psykus> ...and that's how I saved kwanzaa!
[09:54] <Seveas> Hatfield, in here we help people, we don't like helping people shooting themselves in the foot
[09:55] <larsie> why isnt .bashrc run when i log in from gdm?
[09:55] <Seveas> larsie, because you don't run bash....
[09:56] <joelw23> how do i edit a cnf file
[09:56] <larsie> ? arent .bashrc supposed to run whenever you log in
[09:56] <Enthusiast78> larsie, No, only when 'bash' starts up.
[09:56] <Seveas> no, it's run whenever you start bash
[09:56] <Seveas> the gnome session is for running things upon login
[09:56] <Seveas> (system  preferences  session)
[09:57] <yaaar> joelw23: just use a text editor, like gedit, nano, vi, or emacs
[09:57] <mrwhoopie> hey all
[09:57] <Ash-Fox__> What is a program that can monitor connetions and their bandwith usage live? (preferibly with the program name if possible)
[09:58] <me2win> whats the package needed to play mp3s in rhythmbox?
[09:58] <mrwhoopie> quick question for anyone that can answer it
[09:58] <Seveas> Ash-Fox__, bwm comes closest (total bandwidth only)
[09:58] <mrwhoopie> i'm a newbie...     wondering how to get permissions to read/write to dev/hda1...       ????
[09:58] <dee_> me2win: I think the gstreamer packages.
[09:58] <Ash-Fox__> Seveas, total bandwith of programs/connections/all connections?
[09:59] <yaaar> Ash-Fox__: just on the local machine? or something to get snmp data from switches and other computers and record it?
[09:59] <Blissex> mrwhoopie: you have to be 'root' and them add those permissions to '/dev/hda1'
[09:59] <Enthusiast78> me2win, gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:59] <dee_> mrwhoopie: that depends on what /dev/hda1 is.
[09:59] <Ash-Fox__> yaar, just on the location machine :)
[09:59] <me2win> Enthusiast78, thank you
[09:59] <mrwhoopie> it's my hard drive on my laptop
[09:59] <Ash-Fox__> *yaaar
[09:59] <dee_> which filesystem?
[09:59] <Blissex> mrwhoopie: note that permission to '/dev/hda1' is not the same thing as permissions to the files in that partition.
[09:59] <Seveas> Ash-Fox__, bwm monitors per interface
[09:59] !lilo:*! So far, it looks as if that was a temporary flap to our main US hub, rather than an actual problem with the server. The rotation server we lost is holding steady in terms of users now that it's reconnected.
[10:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> what does APT stand for when installing new repositories?
[10:00] <me2win> aptitude
[10:00] <mrwhoopie> what i'm trying to do is write osx to my HD
[10:00] <me2win> keithhhhhhhhh, aptitude
[10:00] <Seveas> keithhhhhhhhh, advanced package toolkit
[10:00] <me2win> or that ^
[10:00] <me2win> lol
[10:00] <Mystery47_Newbie> Hello all!
[10:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> hehe
[10:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> thanks
[10:01] !lilo:*! What can happen is that users get nervous when their server splits, and some percentage of them will try to reconnect, hence we got maybe 300 or 400 users switching from the problem server and rejoining channels.
[10:01] <pinkisntwell> ubuntu will only let me run @ 60Hz, how can I get more refresh rates?
[10:02] <Seveas> pinkisntwell, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:02] <Mystery47_Newbie> Hey ppl....i just have some problems....with using wine and installing game what takes 2 CD:s.....why i cant chance disk(i can get it out) when program ask it to chance?
[10:02] <pinkisntwell> I did that
[10:02] <mrwhoopie> ie   i want to use the command dd if-tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda
[10:02] <mrwhoopie> but it won't let me
[10:02] <Ash-Fox> Mystery47_Newbie umount -f /path/to/cdrom/folder
[10:03] <Ash-Fox> It will force the drive to unmount.
[10:03] !lilo:*! I'm going to ping the users on that server, just to see if we're seeing unusual user loss. Noticing them now.
[10:03] <MrRio> mrwhoopie: hey, are you running from ubuntu livecd?
[10:03] <Seveas> mrwhoopie, run it as root
[10:03] <mrwhoopie> i was...  but then i tried the full install... same results for both
[10:03] <mrwhoopie> so log out and log in as root?
[10:03] <Seveas> use sudo
[10:04] <MrRio> mrwhoopie: use livecd, have your tiger image on a networkshare
[10:04] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, sudo <command>
[10:04] <mrwhoopie> i could have tiger on a usb drive?
[10:04] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, yeah u can
[10:05] <curley_sue> !language
[10:05] <ubotu> hmm... language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:05] <mrwhoopie> so instead of using /dev/hda in the command...  just use whatever my usbdrive is?
[10:05] <Mystery47_Newbie> and that give disk out and let me put other one in....and then installing is continueing normally?
[10:06] <dee_> so thank you for your support and good night. :)
[10:06] <MrRio> mrwhoopie: what i recommend is you leave a part your harddrive with no partition
[10:06] <mrwhoopie> my usb drive or my laptop drive?
[10:06] <Mystery47_Newbie> im asking this because this game....Escape from monkey island...is working so far so nice.....but my job stopped when i just had put other disk in...:)
[10:07] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, on your laptop drive
[10:07] !lilo:*! Okay, looks as if we're getting good responses from our users on the problem server. We're still losing some users there, but it's probably nervousness more than loss of connection.
[10:07] <mrwhoopie> ok
[10:07] <dollar> hello.. i'm using amsn application... why the chat windows open theirselves?
[10:07] <larsie> how can I make a script that run when the user logs in through gdm
[10:08] <romo> hello
[10:08] <mrwhoopie> so this empty partition with no file system will be an accessible hda1, hda2, etc..?
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> but thanks for helping me.....i just have other thing to ask too....
[10:08] <MrRio> larsie: you could add it in session. System -> preferences -> sessions
[10:08] <romo> uhm... i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and i have a big problem
[10:08] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, yeah, you can get its name using a graphical tool like gparted
[10:08] <romo> just when i start to use it, my sysrem crashes, my keyboard doesnt respond
[10:08] <MrRio> mrwhoopie: apt-get install gparted
[10:09] <Mystery47_Newbie> how i can put teamspeak and game sounds hearing together....?
[10:09] <romo> just my mouse works, and i cant clic on anything
[10:09] <mrwhoopie> so then use the command dd if-tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/................
[10:09] <mrwhoopie> haha the gparted command says locked
[10:10] <Enthusiast78> mrwhoopie, Note that's 'if=tiger...'
[10:10] <Juul> how do i modify the scroll speed in ubuntu?
[10:10] <Juul> breezy
[10:10] <mrwhoopie> right
[10:10] <MrRio> mrwhoopie: you need to use sudo for these admin tasks
[10:10] <mrwhoopie> ok...   so i log in as sudo?
[10:10] <FunnyLookinHat> mrwhoopie, no, you type sudo before any command
[10:10] <Enthusiast78> mrwhoopie, No, just add 'sudo' before the commands.
[10:11] <mrwhoopie> ahh
[10:11] <FunnyLookinHat> such as, sudo chmod +x *
[10:11] <nalioth> mrwhoopie: to best use gparted, i recommend you use it from an ubuntu liveCD
[10:11] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, not quite, linux and apple need root priveledges to install software and do admin tasks, you dont (by default) log in a root, but simply elevate to those privs when you need to
[10:11] <mrwhoopie> so      sudo dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/................
[10:11] <mrwhoopie> in my usbdrive directory with tiger in it?
[10:12] <MrRio> mrwhoopie, yeah, then read the osx86 material about setting up grub
[10:12] <mrwhoopie> ok cool
[10:12] <felix> hey, i'm fairly new to linux, but able to navigate around, and install things. I'm trying to get xserver-gxl and it will not install.. can anyone help me?
[10:13] <me2win> felix, you mean xserver-xgl?
[10:13] <HymnToLife> felix> what's the problem ?
[10:13] <felix> er yeah
[10:13] <felix> typo
[10:13] <felix> ok. well i've been following online tutorials, like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[10:14] <felix> and i've not been able to get xserver-xgl
[10:14] <HymnToLife> you get "no installation candidate" ?
[10:14] <felix> i get an error saying "couldnt find any package whos name or description matched "xserver-xgl"
[10:15] <HymnToLife> do you have universe/multiverse enabled ?
[10:15] <felix> when i try sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl
[10:15] <me2win> probably have to enable multiverse
[10:15] <felix> hm
[10:15] <felix> how do i go about doing that?
[10:15] <felix> i cant get into x
[10:15] <me2win> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <felix> k
[10:15] <me2win> uncomment universe/multiverse package
[10:16] <felix> ok
[10:16] <HymnToLife> you can also use that sources.list instead : http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list
[10:17] <felix> should i uncomment #deb-src... ?
[10:17] <_Uwo_> hi all. have problems with WMV quality - codec packages installed, but for example on mms://wmedia.siol.net/SiOL/info/20060309_9_osocialnem_varstvudomace.wmv I get very poor video quality - on WIN its normal... anyone help? its a news program, which I often use
[10:17] <me2win> uncomment means take away the #
[10:17] <me2win> but not, not the source
[10:17] <me2win> src
[10:17] <me2win> just deb not deb-src
[10:18] <trappist> _Uwo_: mplayer? vlc?
[10:18] <felix> ok
[10:18] <felix> let me try that
[10:18] <_Uwo_> trappist: totem and vlc - tried on both and same results
[10:18] <sertmann> 4294670.756000 PCI: device 0000:01:0a.0 has unknown header type f ignoring <- that's my SBLive, any idea how to fix it?
[10:18] <trappist> _Uwo_: if you run it from the console, do you get any unusual output?
[10:18] <felix> couldnt find package "xserver-xgl"
[10:19] <me2win> felix, you need to update first
[10:19] <me2win> sudo apt-get update
[10:19] <_Uwo_> trappist: will try
[10:19] <nalioth> me2win: it doesnt hurt anything to uncomment the deb-src lines, and sometimes it's beneficial
[10:19] <felix> k
[10:20] <dollar> hey. am tryin do play an mp3 song from a CD and i get an error saying that:Cannot create /tmp/fr-lDjtne/Craig David  The Story Goes /01  All The Way .mp3
[10:20] <felix> very cool
[10:20] <felix> let me see if i can get this to work
[10:20] <me2win> nalioth, true, do are they only packages that contain source code?
[10:20] <joelw23>  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:20] <joelw23> joelw23 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:20] <joelw23> any ideas
[10:20] <nalioth> me2win: they do, and they have to specifically be called upon
[10:20] <me2win> nalioth, ah i see
[10:20] <nalioth> joelw23: close all your apt-get processes
[10:21] <joelw23> how??
[10:21] <dollar> can anyone help me?
[10:21] <nalioth> joelw23: look at your desktop and close all the terminals that have apt or dpkg running in them, close synaptic, adept, kynaptic or other
[10:21] <existance> what's a decent Java IDE I could use?
[10:21] <joelw23> ok
[10:22] <me2win> existance, eclipse
[10:22] <[Kismet] > Hi All...
[10:22] <dollar>  hey. am tryin do play an mp3 song from a CD and i get an error saying that:Cannot create /tmp/fr-lDjtne/Craig David  The Story Goes /01  All The Way .mp3
[10:22] <dollar> hello
[10:22] <dollar> need some help
[10:22] <_Uwo_> trappist: on totem I get Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed, VLC crashes after WARNING: DecodeACRunLevel: Error in unpack transform coefs - 10
[10:22] <felix> so i did all of that, and it shows as /usr/bin/Xgl as a non existing directory
[10:22] <[Kismet] > ...I'm no more able to get my soundcard working..
[10:22] <nalioth> dollar: please don't repeat so often
[10:22] <concept10> !info swig
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dollar about attitude
[10:22] <ubotu> swig: (Generate scripting interfaces to C/C++ code), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.3.24-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 755 kB, Installed size: 3224 kB
[10:23] <dollar> but nobody's helpin man
[10:23] <nalioth> dollar: read what the bot sent you, please
[10:23] <felix> so i did all of that, and it shows as /usr/bin/Xgl as a non existing directory
[10:23] <dollar> ok ok... am cool.. but what's the solution?
[10:24] !lilo:*! Okay, here's what we are able to determine. The problem with the main rotation server was a DoS attack directed at the service provider, not related to freenode at all. It forced one of the server sponsor's links' bgp sessions to reestablished, and there's some heavy filtering going on. Apparently it was a gig+ worth of attack.
[10:24] <r4y3k> hi everybody
[10:24] <nalioth> dollar: ask uncle google, see the ubuntuforums, etc
[10:24] <me2win> dollar, im not sure to be honest, never seen that error
[10:24] !lilo:*! Again, it wasn't directed at us, rather just one of those unfortunate incidents. I did notice some user loss, but apparently our long client-server ping times came through and kept most of the users up.
[10:25] <dollar> oh i se.. thx anyway
[10:25] <[Kismet] > anyone have experice with Amilo M1437G?
[10:25] <trappist> _Uwo_: I'm thinking it's a codec issue, but I don't see an update to the codec it's using.  I get the same problem here.
[10:26] <DoTheRodeo_> how do you use ftp on ubuntu?
[10:26] <coyctecm> vlc-mozilla-plugin doesn't work
[10:26] <DoTheRodeo_> ftp then what?
[10:26] <Kyral> ftp <username@host>
[10:26] <coyctecm> vlc work fine thought but not firefox plugin
[10:27] <DoTheRodeo_> with <> ?
[10:27] <_Uwo_> trappist: is there a programm which identifies codecs?
[10:27] <dollar> what about this error... You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/media/cdrom0".. does anyone knows the solution.. and sorry for botherin u guys but I'm using the linux for the first time in my life
[10:27] <me2win> dollar,
[10:28] <me2win> you cant extract stuff to that folder
[10:28] <me2win> you have to be root
[10:28] <me2win> if you are extracting by command line use sudo
[10:28] <me2win> sudo <extract paramater go here>
[10:28] <trappist> _Uwo_: the mplayer output tells you what codec it's using, if that's what you mean
[10:28] <Celestianpower> Can I get some help?
[10:29] <felix> OMG it works
[10:29] <felix> thanks everyone!
[10:29] <r4y3k> dollar, you're not root
[10:29] <_Uwo_> trappist: thats it - will try to look into it further
[10:29] <_Uwo_> trappist: tnx
[10:29] <Seewai> help with what?
[10:29] <lightstep> hello. i'm a new ubuntu user, coming from debian. i installed a new system, and i don't know the sound configuration. do you know where this is documented?
[10:29] <dollar> i don't know how to use the terminal... I'm tryin to access it just like i used to access them in windoes
[10:30] <r4y3k> lightstep, u can use alsamixer
[10:30] <me2win> dollar, you will have to run the window root
[10:30] <me2win> alt+f2 gksudo nautilus
[10:30] <Celestianpower> I am having some trouble with Synaptic Package Manager
[10:30] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...i'm having some trouble on connecting a USB IrDA connector
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> hullo, guys
[10:30] <Celestianpower> My friend played about with one of the files
[10:31] <lightstep> r4y3k, the software doesn't see anything wrong, but the speakers play no sound
[10:31] <Celestianpower> How do I restore it to how it was before?
[10:31] <rysiek|pl> does anybody here know how to change the console (not Konsole) font?
[10:31] <djm62> Celestianpower: what file?
[10:31] <lightstep> Celestianpower, do you know which file?
[10:31] <Celestianpower> No
[10:31] <Celestianpower> It had lots of universes and multiverses in it
[10:31] <r4y3k> rysiek|pl, which console?
[10:32] <lightstep> Celestianpower, what is the problem?
[10:32] <djm62> rysiek|pl: you mean the non-X linux console?
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> yep
[10:32] <Celestianpower> lightstep: It brings up some error
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> the tty's
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> !flood
[10:32] <ubotu> hmm... flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:32] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:33] <Celestianpower> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:33] <Celestianpower> lol
[10:33] <Celestianpower> Sorry
[10:33] <Celestianpower> I didn't realise it was so big
[10:33] <djm62> rysiek|pl: consolechars (8) is your friend, I think
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> djm62, thx
[10:33] <DoTheRodeo_> where do you config vsftpd?
[10:33] <DoTheRodeo_> like the password and stuff
[10:33] <r4y3k> Celestianpower, try making apt-get update first
[10:34] <Celestianpower> r4y3k: How do I do that?
[10:34] <lightstep> or Ctrl+R in synaptic
[10:34] <djm62> Celestianpower: welcome :)
[10:34] <me2win> Celestianpower, sudo apt-get update
[10:34] <r4y3k> Celestianpower, open a terminal and then sudo apt-get update
[10:35] <Seveas> Celestianpower, NEVER EVER do that again in here...
[10:35] <lightstep> erm, synaptic can update by itself
[10:35] <Celestianpower> Seveas: Sorry :(
[10:35] <Celestianpower> Well, I typed it and it said connecting but it never connected
[10:36] <DoTheRodeo_> where do you config vsftpd?
[10:36] <DoTheRodeo_> like the password and stuff
[10:37] <Celestianpower> And reloading synaptic caused it to say downloading but never download
[10:37] <S0me1> hi guys
[10:37] <trappist> I love that irssi says "woah there hoss.  not gonna do this unless you hit ctrl-k" if I try to paste more than a couple of lines of text
[10:37] <joelw23> how do i reset mysql pass
[10:37] <joelw23> i can't get in
[10:38] <m_tadeu> can anyone help me connecting a IR connector?
[10:38] <jerware> fellaz
[10:38] <me2win> trappist, lolz
[10:38] <jerware> im having trouble with ifconfig, setting up a default route.  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4sawV234.html
[10:38] <jerware> im abiding by the man page,  and a book
[10:38] <ddt> hiya
[10:38] <jerware> i had to use the gui,  but i wont have one when I set up my debian server
[10:39] <ddt> i'm trying to figureout how to get dyndns installed (i think it's called ddclient orsomething) on my ubuntu install running under vmware, but i don't see an option for it in the package mgr.
[10:39] <Celestianpower> Does anyone know what my problem is with Synaptic?
[10:39] <ddt> can anyone recommend how i do this?
[10:40] <S0me1> Celestianpower, what's up ?
[10:40] <felix> how do i have a command like "thefuture" started up with my computer?
[10:41] <felix> so i dont have to go into the terminal all the time
[10:41] <Makura> Can someone help me?  When I try to update/repair/install with Synaptic, it tells me that "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct this problem."  When I go to the terminal and type it in, it gives me an error, "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue:  Assertion `dependtry <=4' failed    .    Aborted"
[10:41] <djp> what kernel should i use with an athlon thunderbird processor?
[10:41] <me2win> felix, get BUM
[10:41] <felix> where at?
[10:41] <ddt> anyone here use dyndns on ubuntu?
[10:41] <me2win> ddt, i use it, but through my router
[10:41] <ddt> what package does it require?
[10:42] <ddt> wait, you mean you use dhcp to your router, and your router does dyndns for you?
[10:42] <me2win> yeah
[10:42] <me2win> ddt, what kind of router do you have?
[10:42] <ddt> i guess that would work, but it won't work when i take my shuttle to the game developer conference
[10:42] <ddt> wait a minute
[10:42] <ddt> what am i talking about
[10:43] <ddt> yeah that would work
[10:43] <ddt> i have the linksys thingy that comes with vonage
[10:43] <r4y3k> I have to go Bye!
[10:43] <zz2> salut
[10:43] <nicholaspaul> Q: how do i unlock repositories ( i get an error after trying sudo apt-get update)
[10:43] <ddt> i think it supports it
[10:43] <Celestianpower> Bye r4y3k
[10:43] <ddt> will check it out
[10:43] <Celestianpower> :)
[10:43] <ddt> ty fo the idea
[10:43] <zz2> ca va
[10:43] <Makura> Anyone?
[10:43] <zz2> bonsoir
[10:43] <me2win> nicholaspaul, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <me2win> ddt, np
[10:43] <ddt> in general, how do i install packages that aren't a part of the default ubuntu list?
[10:44] <zz2> reponder moi en francais
[10:44] <me2win> ddt, use synaptic
[10:44] <zz2> hgfszxedkvghtyfnhjgjuy
[10:44] <me2win> to check for packages
[10:44] <zz2> fdkpypju
[10:44] <zz2> 5585ktyji
[10:44] <ddt> yeahit doesnt show up in synaptic
[10:44] <zz2> khui-u
[10:44] <me2win> you can also use sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:44] <zz2> jiulk
[10:44] <zz2> iju;
[10:44] <ddt> doi need to point it to another repository or something?
[10:44] <zz2> dqec;yh*
[10:44] <me2win> ddt, oooh i see
[10:44] <djm62> ddt: have you enabled the universe et multiverse repositories?
[10:44] <zz2> fuck you men
[10:44] <me2win> ddt, you need to edit sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <ddt> djm, dunno.  where do i do that?
[10:44] <ddt> what should i add to sources.list?
[10:44] <zz2> ljkghg
[10:44] <zz2> ktjfhr
[10:44] <zz2> 6+9j6u
[10:44] <zz2> jfyrjvu
[10:44] <zz2> rjgj
[10:44] <me2win> !flood
[10:44] <ubotu> [flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[10:44] <zz2> ezfsre
[10:44] <gp_aaron> ubuntu hangs/crashes when loading ide-disk module on a server install
[10:45] <zz2> fbft
[10:45] <ddt> btw, thanks very much guys.  i'm the dude who ported doom, quake,and abuse to linux btw.  :)
[10:45] <zz2> flib
[10:45] <me2win> ddt, nice
[10:45] <me2win> ddt, uncomment the universe/multiverse repositories
[10:45] <ddt> and if you need any gamey help, happy to.  i do lots of biz dev these days.
[10:45] <ddt> ok
[10:45] <Makura> Can someone please help me with my problem?
[10:45] <me2win> ddt, you have an AIM s/n? message it to me
[10:45] <DoTheRodeo_> where do you config vsftpd?
[10:45] <DoTheRodeo_> like the password and stuff
[10:45] <Moif> hello
[10:45] <me2win> ddt, im getting into developing for the PSP
[10:45] <Makura> ddt, do you have contact information
[10:45] <djm62> ddt: either sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines
[10:45] <djp> what kernel should i use with an athlon thunderbird processor?
[10:46] <ddt> it's aim:ddtifulness
[10:46] <ddt> or ddt@davetaylor.name
[10:47] <Makura> When I try to update/repair/install with Synaptic, it tells me that "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct this problem."  When I go to the terminal and type it in, it gives me an error, "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue:  Assertion `dependtry <=4' failed    .    Aborted"
[10:47] <djm62> ddt: or, synaptic, settings->repositories
[10:47] <kroisis> new to ubuntu ya'll (just installed) so what do I do next?  I'd kinda like to switch the KDE wm as I prefer it to gnome...any clues how to do this?  Anything I should be aware of security wise?
[10:47] <thetide> these need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[10:47] <ddt> i found it
[10:47] <ddt> i suspect that'll be the fix
[10:47] <ddt> thanks very much guys
[10:47] <djm62> ddt: btw, loved abuse :)
[10:47] <ddt> djm :)
[10:47] <me2win> ddt, you have AIM or other contact info? I'm developing some games for PSP, itd be nice to have someone to talk to about it all and ask for help heh
[10:48] <ddt> yeah it's aim:ddtifulness
[10:48] <gp_aaron> kroisis, use synaptic to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:48] <kroisis> gp_aaron, thanks
[10:48] <Makura> Can I get some help with Synaptic?
[10:48] <Viper_0> hi , i can't connect via ssh to Ubuntu, gives me the following error Network Error : Connection Refused , why?
[10:49] <djm62> Makura: what's up?
[10:49] <gp_aaron> kroisis, at least that's what you did when i used ubuntu before
[10:49] <ddt> viper, you need to install sshd
[10:49] <me2win> ddt, thanks
[10:49] <Makura> djm62: When I try to update/repair/install with Synaptic, it tells me that "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct this problem."  When I go to the terminal and type it in, it gives me an error, "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue:  Assertion `dependtry <=4' failed    .    Aborted"
[10:49] <djm62> Viper_0: is sshd installed /and/ enabled?
[10:50] <Frebrd> wat are backports?
[10:50] <djm62> Makura: what repositories do you have enabled? what has changed since things were working?
[10:50] <me2win> Frebrd, backport is like firefox saying its version 1.0 but having 1.5 features
[10:50] <kroisis> gp_aaron, the desktop package is listed as 'gnome dektop environment'....doesn't seem likely that'll install kde ;)
[10:50] <Viper_0> how can i see if it's running ? :| , with ps ?
[10:50] <Frebrd> anyone know how to set permisions for cdrecord?
[10:51] <djm62> Viper_0: ps aux | grep ssh
[10:51] <gp_aaron> kroisis, kubuntu <-- make sure you have the K
[10:51] <Makura> djm62: I do not know anything about Linux, this is my first attempt and first distro I've installed, so I don't understand what you're asking me.
[10:51] <djm62> Makura: ok, is this installed from a breezy CD?
[10:51] <me2win> djm62, what repos are you trying to enable?
[10:51] <djm62> Makura: that's Ubuntu 5.10 (IIRC)
[10:52] <pinkisntwell> on my xorg.conf file should I have nv or nvidia as the driver?
[10:52] <djm62> me2win: I'm completely happy with my system at the moment, thanks ;)
[10:52] <Makura> djm62: I downloaded the installation ISO from the site and burned it to a disc.  I'm pretty sure that it's 5.10.
[10:52] <trappist> pinkisntwell: nvidia if you want 3d acceleration
[10:52] <Viper_0> yes , it's running
[10:52] <djm62> Makura: did the installation finish, and did the first boot work?
[10:52] <me2win> djm62, oh i thought you were asking makura for help, my bad :(
[10:52] <pinkisntwell> thanks
[10:52] <jcarter> hey anyone here actually get an intel 2200b/g to work using ndiswrapper?
[10:52] <Moif> hey guys, new install, coming across from SuSE, can anyone reccommend a term app that I can copy and paste from webpages into please?
[10:53] <Viper_0> root     15704  0.0  0.2   1624   356 pts/1    R+   21:51   0:00 grep sshd
[10:53] <trappist> jcarter: don't need ndiswrapper for that
[10:53] <gp_aaron> is the ide-disk module really needed?
[10:53] <Frebrd> anyone know how to set permisions for cdrecord?
[10:53] <Frebrd> ..
[10:53] <gp_aaron> \:P
[10:53] <djm62> Viper_0: that's the command you used to search, not sshd :-/
[10:53] <jcarter> trappist: oh, and how did you do it?
[10:53] <Makura> djm62:  It successfully got past the base installation.  When I reboot without the CD thuogh, it fails on the additional packages installation.  At about 44%...  I have two different CDs that has had this happen.  I checked the md5sum and it matches.
[10:53] <me2win> Moif, what do you mean
[10:54] <Moif> sorry
[10:54] <Moif> my bad :)
[10:54] <Moif> should of explored the menus
[10:54] <jcarter> trappist: i'm currently on a kubuntu part which works natively
[10:54] <me2win> Moif, heh
[10:54] <djm62> Makura: :( what additional packages are you installing?
[10:54] <Viper_0> root     15732  0.0  0.6   3064   768 pts/1    S+   21:54   0:00 grep ssh
[10:55] <trappist> jcarter: should "just work"
[10:55] <Makura> djm62: I have no idea, it was part of the automatic installation.  Right now I'm trying to see if I can find what's wrong and fix them, also trying to install Gaim (no clue how), but so far I'm stumped...  I have no clue what to do.
[10:55] <trappist> it does here, though the current version of the driver is buggy
[10:55] <Makura> djm62: I get that error, open the terminal and get su, then type what it told me to, then I get that other error.
[10:55] <jcarter> i'll try re dling
[10:55] <djm62> Makura: so, have you got a running ubuntu system at the moment?
[10:55] <Makura> djm62: Yes.
[10:55] <jcarter> my ubuntu also has a corrupt build file or something
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> djm62: and do you have, by any chance, an idea on how to make a certain font the default one? I don't feel like adding concolechars to the global bash_profile, there must be a better way :)
[10:56] <Viper_0> root@ubuntu:/etc/init.d# ps aux |grep ssh
[10:56] <Viper_0> hugo      7900  0.0  0.2   3124   320 ?        Ss   14:37   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[10:56] <Viper_0> root     15732  0.0  0.6   3064   768 pts/1    S+   21:54   0:00 grep ssh
[10:56] <djm62> rysiek|pl: I cannot for the life of me remember, sorry :)
[10:56] <djm62> Makura: if you go to a terminal and type sudo aptitude update , does it work?
[10:57] <Makura> djm62: I'm on another computer, if you'll hang on I'll go try that.
[10:57] <djm62> Makura: no problem: is the ubuntu machine not online?
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> djm62 - ah, well, have to live with that ;)
[10:58] <djm62> rysiek|pl: are you a linguist or just really into customisation?
[10:58] <Makura> djm62: It is online, but I have no programs to log onto IRC with.  And the aptitude update did something, and it appears to be successful...  I think.
[10:58] <kroisis> ok, so I'm guessing there's no simple way to convert the ubuntu default gnome to kde like an apt get or anything...am I correct?
[10:58] <djm62> Makura: if it appears successful, then try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:58] <Makura> djm62: Alright, one second.
[10:58] <gp_aaron> GRRRRR!!!
[10:59] <djm62> kroisis: kubuntu-desktop ?
[10:59] <gp_aaron> ubuntu WILL NOT install
[10:59] <gfxstyler> hi
[10:59] <gfxstyler> is there a way to apply vsync to the desktop ? with xorg
[10:59] <kent> is there an repositorie to add to ubuntu 5.10  to get ekiga installed?
[10:59] <kroisis> djm62, ok, how do I do that from ubuntu?  does it require a new install from iso?
[10:59] <sinaduel> does anyone know of a DVD Video burning program for linux?
[11:00] <djm62> kroisis: if you have a net connection, that package (meta-package really) should be available to you
[11:00] <nalioth> sinaduel: dvdauthor + k3b
[11:00] <S0me1> sinaduel, K3B
[11:00] <Makura> djm62: It gave me the same error it does when I type "dpkg --configure -a"
[11:01] <Moif> woot, just found Automatix
[11:01] <djm62> Makura: if you go to the "internet" bit on the main menu, do you have xchat there?
[11:01] <djm62> Makura: (I was going to ask you to paste the error into #flood, then I realised :()
[11:01] <kroisis> djm62, ok, so what would I use to get it? (sorry to be so dense)  I come from a Solaris->FreeBSD->slack->fedora background...
[11:02] <sinaduel> nalioth: dvdauthor? I know K3B alone does not burn DVD videos
[11:02] <Makura> djm62: No I don't, that's why I'm not on the other computer.
[11:02] <gfxstyler> is there a way to apply vsync to the desktop ? with xorg
[11:02] <djm62> kroisis: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> djm62: I am Polish. I just hate when I see a manpage with ### instead of a word
[11:02] <Makura> djm62: I don't know how to get anything to connect to IRC there. >_<
[11:02] <nalioth> sinaduel: you need to set up your dvd files with dvdauthor, then k3b can burn them
[11:03] <sinaduel> alright, thankyou
[11:03] <djm62> Makura: could you type the first line where it looks like things are going wrong? (from the dpkg command)?
[11:04] <thetide> these need to go today 2 laptops, both made by good manufacturers. price is 500$ each for them and include shipping, case and wireless router.  message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com
[11:04] <FoamY_LappY> ok
[11:04] <Makura> djm62: The line before it says "Ack!  Something went wrong."?
[11:04] <FoamY_LappY> !dapper
[11:04] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[11:04] <djm62> Makura: yeah, that sounds good
[11:04] <Makura> djm62: Sure, one sec.
[11:04] <kroisis> djm62, hmmm...authentication failure attempting to su ...  is this an ubuntu quirk?
[11:05] <sinaduel> where do I find dvdauthor, just search with google?
[11:05] <Lord_Maynoth> Hey does anyone here know if dapper drake will have Firefox 2.0?   If not will the autoupdate feature work in firefox????
[11:05] <djm62> kroisis: are you su-ing or sudo-ing? ubuntu has no root password by default, use sudo with your own password
[11:05] <Tutankamon> how can i set to see the "request timed out" link in win ?
[11:05] <kroisis> djm62, that's what Iw as suspecting....
[11:06] <Lord_Maynoth> hello?
[11:06] <kroisis> djm62,  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:06] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <djm62> kroisis: is synaptic open?
[11:06] <Makura> djm62: "Writing extended state of information... Done."  But I see something else in there that says "E:  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg ended unexpectedly.
[11:06] <arrinmurr> Lord_Maynoth: dapper will be released in 20th of april, i guess firefox 2.0 won't be out then?
[11:06] <kroisis> djm62, ahhhhhh
[11:06] <kroisis> (blush)
[11:06] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know if you will be able to autoupdate like you do in windows?
[11:07] <Lord_Maynoth> 1.5 can autoupdate
[11:07] <nicholaspaul> I have a Q:When I CTRL-C out of apt-get update, then try apt-get update again, I get an error about locked repositories. How can i reset that?
[11:07] <kroisis> djm62,  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop" ...:(
[11:07] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: don't do such damfool things in the first place
[11:07] <arrinmurr> Lord_Maynoth: if not, you should be able to download it from the firefox website when it's out anyway
[11:07] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, awwww....
[11:07] <keithhhhhhhhh> I used Automatix to install Wine and I cant seem to find where it went .... anyone have any advice?
[11:08] <Celestianpower> Can anyone help me with Synaptic please?
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[11:08] <nalioth> !automatix
[11:08] <Seveas> keithhhhhhhhh, automatix is a virus
[11:08] <nalioth> Celestianpower: if you ask a question
[11:08] <Seveas> you should not use it
[11:08] <Lord_Maynoth> !automatix
[11:08] <nicholaspaul> nalioth,  but the nasty apt-get wasn't apt-getting, and i wanted to edit the sources.list..
[11:08] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[11:08] <kbrosnan> Lord_Maynoth, I doubt dapper will ever get firefox 2, It will likely run into the same issues 1.5 ran into in breezy
[11:08] <keithhhhhhhhh> really
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> man I wish autopackage would hurry up and become the linux install standard
[11:09] <nalioth> Celestianpower: ask in this channel, i don't accept private messages
[11:09] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, autopackage is a virus too
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> its insane having to wait 6 months to updates to progs
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[11:09] <Seveas> it's the worst packagins system there is
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> hahaha
[11:09] <Viper_0> I can't open a file .php3 with Firefox, it asks me to Save the file, the file i want to open is /etc/freeradius-dialupadmin/config.php3, anybody can help?
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> oh
[11:09] <Seveas> and very keen on breaking things
[11:09] <Celestianpower> nalioth: When I open it, the downloading box appears but it doesn't do anything
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> that was a good one
[11:09] <saif> hello, can i change ubuntu to thunar instead of nautilus?
[11:09] <Celestianpower> nalioth: I click cancel and it comes up with some error messages
[11:09] <kbrosnan> Lord_Maynoth, if you installed the 1.5 binaries from mozilla.org then you should be update the same as windows, you might need to su firefox
[11:09] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: just be glad you don't use debian, the wait is a little bit longer
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> abiword gaim etc all work fine
[11:09] <concept10> how do I reload the gnome panel?
[11:09] <Seveas> Viper_0, php only works via a webserver...
[11:09] <Makura> djm62:  Did you get my message?
[11:10] <nalioth> Celestianpower: does apt-get in a terminal do the same thing?
[11:10] <djm62> kroisis: do you have all the repositories enabled?
[11:10] <Moif> question central in here innit!
[11:10] <Celestianpower> nalioth: Yes
[11:10] <Moif> ;)
[11:10] <Lord_Maynoth> abiword gaim etc autopackages etc...
[11:10] <djm62> Makura: yes...I'm trying to work out how to fix it :)
[11:10] <Makura> Moif: Indeed
[11:10] <Makura> djm62: I appreciate it! =] 
[11:10] <Viper_0> Seveas, i have apache2 installed
[11:10] <nalioth> Celestianpower: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please
[11:10] <kditty> hey can anyone help me out with a networking question on ubuntu 5.10. i am connected to my network right now over the live cd, but when i installed the full install and logged on i cant connect to my network
[11:10] <Moif> have you set your DNS?
[11:11] <Moif> mine was set to my router
[11:11] <Seveas> Viper_0, then open the php file via the webserver...
[11:11] <Moif> had to set it to my ISP manually
[11:11] <Celestianpower> nalioth: Pastebin?
[11:11] <Seveas> and convert it to php4 or 5 php3 is unsupported
[11:11] <kditty> on the livecd, when i go to settings, it has my network listed under a dropdown menu, but when i log in through the regular boot from the harddrive instal, there isnt an option to select my network
[11:11] <Hatfield> HI, I was wondering how do i change the workgroup settings in ubuntu so i can be in the same workgroup as my cpu's running XP?
[11:11] <Viper_0> i can i get the file using the webserver ? , it's not in the /var/www...
[11:12] <Moif> kditty is it not under System > Administration > Network?
[11:12] <me2win> Viper_0, you have to change the server root probably
[11:12] <me2win> Viper_0, nvm dont listen to me
[11:12] <me2win> Viper_0, i misunderstood the Q
[11:12] <coyctecm> is it safe to enable backports?
[11:12] <trappist> Viper_0: php files are executed by the webserver and the results are sent to your browser.
[11:12] <me2win> coyctecm, yes
[11:12] <me2win> coyctecm, if thats what you want
[11:12] <kditty> on the live cd i can enable my connection, and it logs me on. but under the install shell i cant do that
[11:12] <Jarigo> !codecs
[11:12] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:12] <Jarigo> !easysourca
[11:12] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jarigo
[11:13] <Jarigo> !easysource
[11:13] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:13] <djm62> Makura: try sudo dpkg -i (with no other arguments)
[11:13] <Hatfield> HI, I was wondering how do i change the workgroup settings in ubuntu so i can be in the same workgroup as my cpu's running XP?
[11:13] <Makura> djm62: Alright, be right back.
[11:13] <coyctecm> me2win, just that I hope enabling backports don't brake anything when upgrading to dapper
[11:13] <trappist> Hatfield: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and restart samba
[11:13] <chrisw69> hello
[11:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Celestianpower about paste
[11:13] <Viper_0> how can i open a file with the webserver if the file it's not in the webserver path?
[11:13] <Hatfield> cool, how do i restar it?
[11:13] <Hatfield> through konquerer?
[11:14] <snowblink> Hatfield, edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:14] <Makura> djm62: It says I need at least one package argument.
[11:14] <kditty> shouldi check my settings that i have right now under the live cd, then log in regularly and change the settings on the normal install to match the ones from my live cd settings?
[11:14] <Hatfield> then what?
[11:14] <me2win> Viper_0, try running it using the php command
[11:14] <me2win> Viper_0, php /dir/file.php
[11:14] <trappist> Hatfield: then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:15] <Celestianpower> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9926
[11:16] <djm62> Makura: (keep wanting to type "Mazurka") do you have a working web browser on the machine?
[11:16] <Viper_0> ok thanks
[11:16] <Makura> djm62: (Haha) Yes I do.
[11:16] <Hatfield> the edit command failed
[11:17] <coyctecm> should I upgrade to dapper?
[11:17] <coyctecm> stable enough?
[11:17] <djm62> Makura: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org <----paste the output here
[11:17] <ljl> !dapper
[11:17] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[11:17] <Makura> djm62: Can't paste here, I'm talking on a different computer. =P
[11:17] <ljl> not only it *might* break, but it *will* break
[11:18] <djm62> Makura: then tell me the URL (of course)
[11:18] <Moif> new release out in about a month apparently, I read that it's better to wait than upgrade now
[11:18] <Makura> djm62: Alright
[11:18] <djm62> Makura: paste it onto that webpage...
[11:18] <kditty> any suggestions guys?
[11:18] <me2win> coyctecm, i fresh installed dapper, its been working fine for me, just a few kinks that need to be worked out
[11:18] <me2win> kditty, im not sure, ive never had that problem
[11:18] <kditty> should i just remove the old connection and start a new one?
[11:19] <Celestianpower> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9926
[11:19] <Makura> djm62: What exactly do you want me to put in there?
[11:19] <Makura> djm62: Could you help me install Gaim on the other machine so I could just paste the url in here?
[11:20] <djm62> Makura: either everything from when you type that dpkg command until it leaves you back at the command line, or the last 25 lines or so of output
[11:20] <marlun> How do I use apt-get to search my installed packages?
[11:20] <djm62> Makura: without dpkg, installing is Not Good :(
[11:21] <Celestianpower> nalioth: Are you still here?
[11:21] <nalioth> Celestianpower: in your terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:21] <Viper_0> me2win, n encontro o comando php
[11:21] <me2win> then try php4
[11:22] <me2win> php4 file.php
[11:22] <s-wx> I would like to add a cmd on boot to help system recognizing a keycode (lot of error msgs in logs atkbd.c....). I need to exec sudo setkeycodes e02a 120
[11:22] <s-wx>  on boot, where can I put this command ?
[11:22] <Makura> djm62: Now it wont let me get superuser priviledges.  My password doesn't work.
[11:22] <balay>  where can I manage the windows/effects in gnome?
[11:22] <me2win> s-wx, im not sure, hold up a few secs maybe somebody else may know
[11:22] <Celestianpower> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9927 <---- Output
[11:23] <JairunCaloth> anyone have much experiance with building a linux DVR/PVR?
[11:23] <me2win> Celestianpower, what were you asking about
[11:23] <JustinLynn> Makura: you'll need to use sudo su if you want a root shell. the root account is disabled by default.
[11:23] <djm62> Makura: relax...check that you're using sudo, that you don't have caps lock on, and that you don't have any odd language settings on
[11:23] <nalioth> Celestianpower: "sudo apt-get update"
[11:23] <Celestianpower> me2win: Synaptic
[11:24] <Trinitrogen> im having trouble with using "rescue" with a Ubuntu install CD, first things first I know my installs on hda4, does that mean I choose /dev/discs/disc0/part5 as my root file system?
[11:24] <Celestianpower> nalioth: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[11:24] <Celestianpower> nalioth: Then it stops
[11:24] <nalioth> Celestianpower: are you typing here on the same box ?
[11:24] <Celestianpower> nalioth: Yes
[11:24] <nalioth> Celestianpower: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:25] <me2win> Trinitrogen, /dev/hda4 actually
[11:25] <jcarter> hey everyone, i sometimes get a whole bunch of error message beeps in a row in both ubuntu and kubuntu for no reason. anyone know why?
[11:25] <Trinitrogen> me2win: thats not an option
[11:26] <nalioth> Celestianpower: please don't paste
[11:26] <JustinLynn> disc paths look slightly BSDish on the rescue disc, why is that?
[11:26] <me2win> *Shrug*
[11:26] <HymnToLife> that's cus BSD always need to be rescued
[11:26] <HymnToLife> so people don't get confused :D
[11:27] <Makura> djm62: Haha, sorry, I forgot the sudo. =p  I finally got the url as well.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9928
[11:27] <HymnToLife> ok, that was bad
[11:27] <s-wx> me2win: I just need to execute the command on boot.. i read a lot about this issue.. now I wonder where to put the specific command... I remeber that there is a folder with services boot conf.. like 120cups (the number indicate the step on boot).. do u know wht i mean?
[11:27] <cafuego> JustinLynn: That's how udev works; the mappings to /dev/hda etc are just for user convenience.
[11:27] <asgard_mare> hi guys
[11:27] <Trinitrogen> ok, so I'll assume its infact part five
[11:27] <asgard_mare> i have a problem with the restore dvd of ubuntu
[11:27] <me2win> s-wx, nope, im not sure, ask the question again publically
[11:28] <cafuego> s-wx: /etc/init.d. See also 'man update-rc.d'
[11:28] <JustinLynn> cafuego> oh,  I see. it sure confused me when I had to recover one of my systems though :)
[11:28] <loply> evening folks
[11:28] <marlun> Anyone who knows how to search my installed packages? apt-cache search searches the packages in my repositories, I only want to search in the ones I've got installed.
[11:28] <s-wx> cafuego: right there mr :)
[11:28] <s-wx> cafuego: thank you
[11:28] <cafuego> JustinLynn: <heh> Yeah, it take a bit of getting used to. Then aagin, it beats devfs, which didn't have that added layer on top.
[11:28] <Trinitrogen> So now when Im at the shell on the Breezy rescue I issue "grub-install /dev/hda5" and I get "The file/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[11:28] <Viper_0> me2win, n encontro o comando php4
[11:28] <asgard_mare> i have to re-install grub, but i can't, because i'm persecuted by an error ""bterm: unknown terminal type"
[11:29] <ljl> s-wx: depending on the command, you could also just add it to /etc/init.d/bootmist.sh
[11:29] <JustinLynn> cafuego> long live udev :)
[11:29] <me2win> Viper_0, hmm, im not sure how else to run it
[11:29] <ljl> s-wx: that is bootmisc.sh
[11:29] <cafuego> asgard_mare: export TERM=vt100; then resume as before
[11:29] <me2win> id say just stick it in var/www
[11:29] <rysiek|pl> cu all, thx for the fish ;)
[11:29] <loply> Ive installed Ubuntu on a 1200mhz (or something) 14" iBook but there is no sign whatsoever of wireless life, only eth0 (LAN) is detected on bootup... anybody know if there is a module/package I need from the apt-cache to sort this out?
[11:29] <Makura> djm62: Is that what you wanted me to pastebin?
[11:29] <s-wx> ljl: i need to add sudo setkeycodes e02a 120
[11:29] <cafuego> loply: Ubuntu Dapper (6.04) will (at least partially) support its airpore extreme.
[11:29] <JairunCaloth> has anyone tried out the ATI TV-wonder card with ubunut?
[11:30] <nalioth> Viper_0: vaya de el #ubuntu-es, por favor.
[11:30] <Trinitrogen> Can anybody tell me know the heck Im supposed to reinstall grub :(
[11:30] <loply> cafuego: Is it not generally supported in lesser versions?
[11:30] <asgard_mare> i type export TERM=vt100, and then ???
[11:30] <cafuego> loply: If you installed 5.10 (breezy) it isn't going to work.
[11:30] <LjL> s-wx: try it. whether or not it will work depends on whether any other script that gets executed *after* bootmisc.sh cancels the effects of your command
[11:30] <cafuego> loply: The driver has only become useable over the past 3 or so weeks.
[11:30] <loply> cafuego: Alas, that is precisely what I did.
[11:30] <LjL> s-wx: that's since bootmisc.sh is not the *last* script executed on boot
[11:30] <cafuego> loply: Though it's not what anyone would call stable.
[11:30] <loply> cafuego: Well I guess that's both good and bad news. Is it reasonable to dist-upgrade to dapper?
[11:31] <djm62> Makura: in linux, to select/copy you left-click drag over text, to paste you middle click (or right-left simultaneously).  in case you didn't know, but that was all the info, thanks
[11:31] <cafuego> loply: I plonked dapper on a 1.25GHz iBook yesterday, and it seems most major bugs have been ironed out yes. it runs very nicely.
[11:31] <djm62> Makura: can you run that same command, but also have --force-depends on the same line?
[11:31] <s-wx> LjL: thx :)
[11:31] <asgard_mare> i typed export TERM=vt100, but with apt-get install lilo, i have the same problem
[11:31] <bimberi> marlun: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep <searchword>
[11:31] <nalioth> loply: if you don't have anything important on your box, go ahead. (dapper will be in development for another little while)
[11:32] <asgard_mare> unknown terminal bterm
[11:32] <loply> nothing important on linux
[11:32] <djm62> Makura: dpkg --configure --force-depends -a
[11:32] <cafuego> loply: You will also want http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/bcm43xx_firmware.zip
[11:32] <Makura> djm62: So     dpkg --configure -a --force-depends    (no space?)
[11:32] <marlun> bimberi, thanks
[11:32] <Makura> djm62: Okay
[11:32] <IAmAI> Hello.
[11:32] <cafuego> loply: That's the firmware required to drive the wifi
[11:32] <loply> cafuego: I'd rather not attempt to update the firmware if its not neccessary
[11:32] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with imap folders & thunderbird?  I'm curious if it's possible to mark messages for follow up in a way that will show in outlook, thunderbird, <insert mail client here> and I'm curious if it's possible to have cross-app markings?
[11:32] <bimberi> marlun: yw :)
[11:32] <sinaduel> is there a DVD ripping program? I am trying to copy a dvd a burned when I had windows
[11:32] <cafuego> loply: it's not a matter of updating, it _needs_ it to work.
[11:32] <trappist> s-wx: updating your hotkey-setup package should fix that issue
[11:33] <loply> cafuego: Bah, bit of a hastle/risk
[11:33] <ubuntu> casperinc
[11:33] <cafuego> loply: Not at all, it's loaded by the driver and unloaded at shutdown. It won't mess up your hardware.
[11:33] <bur[n] er> sinaduel: thoggen?
[11:33] <Morfosomo> !wma
[11:33] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:33] <loply> cafuego: Ah right, thats not so bad then
[11:33] <ubuntu> hola
[11:33] <sinaduel> thoggen?
[11:34] <Morfosomo> !freeformats
[11:34] <bur[n] er> sinaduel: search synaptic for dvd ripper ;)
[11:34] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:34] <cafuego> loply: The *same* firmware lives (in a compressed format) in your AppleAirport2.kext in OSX.
[11:34] <Viper_0> nalioth, why?
[11:34] <asgard_mare> anyone can help me???
[11:34] <Makura> djm62:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9930
[11:34] <cafuego> loply: After you update abnd a get the latest kernel, dump the firmware files (unzipped) in /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)
[11:35] <thegladiator> !anyone
[11:35] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:35] <billybbobby> Gday, I have just installed Ubuntu and am having troubles with it freezing up when using wireless (to access my router to access the internet)  i am currently using a wired connection and it hasnt frozen yet.  Both xchat and firefox cause it to freeze, sometimes as soon as i start them up, sometimes after a few minutes.  Any ideas?
[11:35] <cafuego> loply: After that, the bcm43xx stuff should load ok and work. I know for a fact it cna connect through WPA networks, not tried it on WEP.
[11:35] <nalioth> Viper_0: this is an english speaking channel.
[11:35] <thegladiator> oh sorry
[11:35] <loply> cafuego: Who uses WEP anyway
[11:35] <djm62> Makura: sudo aptitude install gaim :)
[11:35] <cafuego> loply: People with 802.11b hardware
[11:36] <Klohunt> How do you change the desktop icon sizes in gnome?
[11:36] <Makura> djm62: Okay, be right back.
[11:36] <loply> cafuego: Poor souls
[11:36] <Jarigo> where do i get w32codec?
[11:36] <LjL> !w32codecs
[11:36] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:36] <ubuntu> hola
[11:36] <ubuntu> soy de chile
[11:36] <ubuntu> chile
[11:36] <cafuego> loply: I don't think I'm a poor soul
[11:36] <LjL> !es
[11:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:36] <thegladiator> Klohunt, one way is to go to Nautilis , Edit , Preferences
[11:36] <s-wx> LjL: Where to put my command ? before the last line ": exit 0" ?
[11:36] <thegladiator> Klohunt, that is the only way :)
[11:36] <billybbobby> !wireless
[11:36] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:36] <meushi> Anybody having success with a RhineII rel 78 card under 5.10 default kernel?
[11:36] <djm62> Klohunt: right-click on it, "Stretch Icon"
[11:36] <cafuego> loply: 11Mbit is more than afst enough for my 1.5M dsl p2p link
[11:36] <Klohunt> ahh I see
[11:36] <LjL> s-wx: before
[11:36] <Klohunt> thanks alot
[11:37] <Viper_0> nalioth, i'm not spanish
[11:37] <s-wx> oki
[11:37] <loply> cafuego: Signal strength and ease of encryption mainly though
[11:37] <Jarigo> thanks
[11:38] <cafuego> loply: it's not 100% great with kismet yet btw, better stick with kismac for the moment.
[11:38] <Klohunt> lol, this is going to sound stupid, but where is nautilis?
[11:38] <loply> cafuego: Im not sure what kismet and kismac are
[11:38] <djm62> Klohunt: when you open any home folder, nautilus is the application showing you the contents :)
[11:39] <Makura> djm62: It worked, I'll be logging on the other computer, one moment.,
[11:39] <djm62> :-D
[11:39] <cameronh> I have put the ubuntu installer and files onto my usb pen, booted and mounted it at /cdrom, but the ubuntu installer isn't detecting that the files are there and is saying "Your installation CD-ROM cannot be mounted". Is there any way to get the installer to just assume the CD is pre-mounted at /cdrom?
[11:39] <Klohunt> ahhh I see
[11:39] <thegladiator> Klohunt, file manager is called nautilus ... the "Strecth Icon" is to resize each ICON , and to do it for all the icons use this
[11:40] <djm62> Klohunt: if you come from microsoft, nautilus is the equivalent of "windows explorer"
[11:40] <Klohunt> djm62: ahhok, gotcha
[11:40] <cafuego> loply: fun tools for wardriving, network detectors :-)
[11:40] <loply> cafuego: Ahh
[11:40] <Klohunt> thegladiator: thanks
[11:40] <bimberi> Klohunt: pretty well anything under the Places menu is nautilus
[11:40] <Makura> djm62: I'm on the other computer.  What's the solution to this problem?  What's next?  I'm lost. =p
[11:41] <djm62> Makura: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (I think the problem's solved)
[11:41] <Makura> djm62: Looks like no errors when I typed that in.
[11:42] <knvinh__> what is the advantage of Ubuntu over Debian?
[11:42] <sinaduel> I installed thoggen, but it says I do not have a DVD drive
[11:42] <bimberi> knvinh__: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:43] <Klohunt> WHen I go to Places > Home Folder and then click Edit > Preferences in the File Browser, I dont see anything to change the icon size on the desktop
[11:43] <nalioth> knvinh__: 6 month release cycle?
[11:43] <djm62> Makura: if that works, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop will get you all the basic packages, (then you can put the command line away and use the graphical package manager for any extras :) )
[11:44] <knvinh__> Debian guys also said that
[11:44] <Makura> djm62: Thanks a bunch!
[11:44] <JustinLynn> knvinh__> community... support... technology... free CDs from shipit :)
[11:45] <Enthusiast78>  philosophical question: I'd like to have a shared directory common to all users... Would '/home/shared' be a 'cool' place for that?!
[11:45] <knvinh__> JustinLynn: and it is supported by a billionair?
[11:45] <thegladiator> would ship it take dapper orders before april 20th ?
[11:45] <thegladiator> millionare I guess
[11:45] <JustinLynn> knvinh__> :)
[11:45] <sinaduel> please, help me through this problem, I installed thogger, and it says I do not have a DVD drive
[11:45] <thegladiator> mark shuttleworth :)
[11:45] <Viper_0> I can't open a file .php3 with Firefox, it asks me to Save the file, the file i want to open is /etc/freeradius-dialupadmin/config.php3, anybody can help?
[11:45] <JustinLynn> ah yes, our sabdfl
[11:45] <cafuego> Viper_0: Configure your php4 or php5 module to parse .php3 files.
[11:46] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, Are you trying to open that file directly?
[11:46] <cafuego> Viper_0: Then restart apache and make _sure_ to empty the firefox cache.
[11:46] <Tompkins> what is this place?
[11:46] <Howdy125> Hell
[11:46] <thegladiator> Tompkins, :) ubuntu discussion channel
[11:46] <Viper_0> cafuego, i will try
[11:46] <cafuego> Tompkins: /topic
[11:46] <Tompkins> ah.
[11:46] <Tompkins> Thanks.
[11:46] <Tompkins> bye.
[11:46] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, yes
[11:47] <thegladiator> it feels nice when someone asks that :) , what is this place ,real noobs are not extinct
[11:47] <asd> Hi folkers
[11:47] <djm62> there goes another satisfied winME user :)
[11:47] <thegladiator> lol djm62 :)
[11:47] <knvinh__> JustinLynn: what is the stable version of Ubuntu?
[11:47] <asd> How can I compiler a C program? I downloaded gcc-3.4 yet and I can't compiler my programs
[11:48] <knvinh__> JustinLynn: while Debian has Sarge
[11:48] <kent> knvinh__: ubuntu 5.10
[11:48] <LjL> asd: the current version is 4.0, not 3.4 (though the older 3.4 is needed for some programs). anyway, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[11:48] <ompaul> asd sudo apt-get install build-essential may help some
[11:48] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, .php3 files must be 'parsed' to make sense in a browser... So they must be either served through a webserver such as Apache, or you can parse them manually with 'php /etc/freeradius-dialupadmin/config.php3 > result.html'.
[11:48] <asd> this!!!!!!!!!!
[11:48] <JustinLynn> knvinh__ > 5.10 , breezy badger
[11:48] <asd> I forgot this
[11:48] <asd> thanks!
[11:48] <asd> ;)
[11:49] <knvinh__> kent: stable? while it is using almost new packages? what about security bugs?
[11:49] <Enthusiast78> ogra, Do you know if '/home/shared' is the best place to create a user-common directory?
[11:49] <djm62> Enthusiast78: nothing on the system will get rid of it
[11:49] <LjL> knvinh__: what do you mean "almost new" packages? all packages from 5.10 are 5 months old
[11:50] <oklinux>  what is a good fax program for external modem ?
[11:50] <LjL> knvinh__: (and, of course, they were being tested before that)
[11:50] <Enthusiast78> djm62, Cool. But is there a standard for such kind of thing already?
[11:50] <vinadelmar> hi. i would like to know which gnome will be shipped with the next version of ubuntu. dapperdrake?
[11:50] <kent> knvinh__: yes its stable, and it recives security fixes which can be seen on ubuntu.com
[11:50] <crimsun> vinadelmar: 2.14.1
[11:51] <knvinh__> LjL: I know Debian guys tested Sarge a very long time before releasing it as stable version
[11:51] <XiCillin> with a dual boot (ubuntu, and windows(NTFS)) is it possible to copy from NTFS to ext3?
[11:51] <LjL> knvinh__: Ubuntu doesn't follow Debian's release model
[11:51] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, but i can't find the php command
[11:51] <XiCillin> cus i can view things alright, just can't grab any data
[11:51] <LjL> XiCillin: yes it is
[11:51] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, perhaps you have to install it with 'sudo aptitude install php'.
[11:51] <djm62> Enthusiast78: I can't think of one...
[11:51] <vinadelmar> crimsun, do you have a link? i've searched for it but not found it
[11:52] <Enthusiast78> djm62, Ok, so I guess I'll have to pioneer with '/home/shared' anyway... ;)
[11:52] <Viper_0> I have installed php4
[11:52] <knvinh__> LjL: Do you know which server is using Ubuntu
[11:52] <crimsun> vinadelmar: Ubuntu releases closely mirror GNOME's
[11:52] <XiCillin> LjL: its possible to copy stuff from NTFS to ext3? how?
[11:52] <XiCillin> the normal right-click and 'copy' 'paste' method doesn't work
[11:52] <crimsun> vinadelmar: check the wiki for our release cycle and compare it with GNOME's
[11:52] <LjL> XiCillin: by... copying it. if you can read it, then you can also copy it
[11:52] <HymnToLife> !tell XiCillin about ntfs
[11:53] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, I have installed php4
[11:53] <vinadelmar> crimsun, thanks.
[11:53] <ios> hello
[11:53] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, In the terminal, if you type 'php' and hit TAB, what happens?
[11:53] <LjL> XiCillin: it's possible that you can only access your NTFS partition as root (but in this case, the same would apply to viewing, not just copying). if you want to be able to access it as a regular user, follow Ubotu's tutorial
[11:54] <LjL> XiCillin: otherwise, just use the "cp" command with "sudo" - "sudo cp /source/directory /destination/directory"
[11:54] <jerware> how can i tell what current shell im using?
[11:54] <jerware> how do i know for sure im in bash?
[11:54] <LjL> jerware: try "help"
[11:55] <djm62> jerware: echo $SHELL
[11:55] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78,  Display all the XXX possibilities?
[11:55] <XiCillin> LjL: ok, i'll try taht
[11:55] <LjL> djm62: that doesn't actually say which shell you are *using* at a given moment ;)
[11:56] <ios> I would like to furnish licq however I cannot not an account add. It can help possibly man me??
[11:56] <matt_> Hi all anyone ahve any idea how i get connect to a checkpoint vpn server from ubuntu??
[11:56] <djm62> jerware: ps
[11:57] <matt_> i have checked google but it doesn't really have a solution just tunneling via a windows pc
[11:57] <redguy> jerware: echo $SHELL
[11:57] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, hit TAB again and see if something like php4 appears...
[11:57] <matt_> i basically need a checkpoint vpn client for ubuntu, there is a version you can download for redhat but i'm guessing thats not going to work on ubuntu
[11:58] <jerware> ahh yes
[11:58] <jerware> thanx fellaz
[11:59] <Rawplayer> np jerware
[11:59] <hal> excuse me, i have a newb question.
[11:59] <jdpj> good bye
[11:59] <hal> how do i access files and programs i've downloaded