[02:25] <Burgwork> Seveas, you awake?
[02:26] <Burgwork> Seveas, never mind
[09:44] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: do you have any "new computer user intros"
[09:44] <Burgundavia> ie, someone who has never touched a computer before and they are sitting before an Ubuntu/Edubuntu computer?
[09:44] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: not that i can think of :/
[09:45] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: i do have some docs, but i didn't write them and they're a bit dodgy
[09:45] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: but if you'd like to look at them i could send them to you (or at least a link)
[09:46] <Burgundavia> I am looking at creating/modifying some as part of this project I am working on
[10:31] <pips1> highvolt1ge, hi
[10:32] <highvolt1ge> yo pips1 
[10:32] <pips1> do you need to rush off in a min? ;-)
[10:34] <highvolt1ge> pips1: hehe. strangely enough. not! :)
[10:34] <pips1> good
[10:34] <pips1> :-)
[10:35] <highvolt1ge> pips1: got the username/passwd?
[10:35] <pips1> yes, thanks
[10:35] <pips1> do you want to discuss via jabber?
[10:37] <pips1> highvolt1ge, I am testing some modules for drupal and making notes as I go along
[10:37] <pips1> (on my local test machine)
[10:38] <pips1> at some point, I was thinking of putting up some points on a wiki page, so we can discuss certain ideas, what do you think?
[10:40] <highvolt1ge> pips1: yes, i'm here, just multitasking :)
[10:40] <highvolt1ge> pips1: i think that's a good idea, it makes it easier for others to contribute too
[10:41] <pips1> yep!
[10:43] <pips1> highvolt1ge, multitasking can be a drag... it's nice when one can focus on one thing. Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury all the time... It seems that you are always busy with several things, eh?
[10:45] <pips1> highvolt1ge, I'd like to discuss a few basic things with you, maybe we can make an "official" appointment without interruptions, maybe next week, what do you think?
[10:45] <pips1> darn!
[10:45] <pips1> all those timeouts, too :-/
[10:46] <enyc> aoeuidhtns!
[10:49] <pips1> enyc, you on dvorak keyboard layout?
[10:49] <enyc> pips1: ',.pyfgcrl aoeuidhtns ;qjkxbmwvz  ;-)
[10:50] <pips1> abh
[10:50] <pips1> bah
[10:51] <JaneW> we need edubuntu testers for flight 5 please
[10:51] <JaneW> *please*
[10:51] <enyc> I thought.... flight-5 was going to be beta-1
[10:51] <enyc> ?
[10:51] <enyc> Ill do what I can ;-)
[10:52] <enyc> but I want to know whats going on ;-)
[10:52] <JaneW> it's being built pretty much now
[10:52] <enyc> but I want to know if the ltsp etc. terminal services does sound-over-network ;-)
[10:52] <enyc> do you have separate flight releases to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu ??
[10:53] <pips1> JaneW, last release, I only tested workstation install, this time, I'll try to test a server - thin client setup...
[10:54] <pips1> JaneW, I tried with flight4 without much success
[10:55] <JaneW> enyc: we will have one release announcement with links to the diff distro specifics
[10:55] <pips1> enyc, how long did it take you to learn dvorak?
[10:56] <enyc> pips1: errrrm
[10:56] <enyc> pips1: well...
[10:56] <enyc> pips1: bear in mind ive qwerty'ing since before I can remember ;-)
[10:56] <enyc> pips1: and never learnt proper typing tochnique as suct
[10:57] <pips1> enyc, same here.. oh, no, I learnt to touch time in secondary school...
[10:57] <enyc> pips1: and got achey-fingers and so-on
[10:57] <highvoltage> pips1: yep
[10:57] <pips1> enyc, yeah, my wrists are starting to kill me and thus I'm also considering learning dvorak...
[10:57] <enyc> pips1: erm... 2 weeks of frustration
[10:57] <enyc> pips1: and months of getting used to it ;-)
[10:57] <enyc> pips1: with lots of mental effort ;-)
[10:57] <highvoltage> JaneW: i've tested about everything i can in flight4, i'm hungry for new edubuntu to test!
[10:58] <enyc> pips1: but now ith doesn't annoy me
[10:58] <enyc> and the re-leaning and the better-layout means I have got rid of my achey-finger problem
[10:58] <pips1> enyc, good to hear you got on top of it!
[10:58] <JaneW> highvoltage: cool stay tuned
[10:58] <enyc> pips1: but it took me a long_time
[10:58] <pips1> enyc, that's good encouragement, though
[10:58] <enyc> and im not as fost as my original qwerty'ing
[10:58] <enyc> but I can still use qwerty
[10:58] <JaneW> pips1: hopefully you'll have more luck with flight 5
[10:59] <enyc> JaneW: somebody I spoke to on #ubuntu+1 said the next prerelease would likely be 'beta-1' not 'flight-5'
[11:00] <pips1> enyc, is touch_time that program that forces you to pause in intervals?
[11:00] <enyc> pips1: I dont know
[11:00] <enyc> pips1: thats something you mentioned ;-)
[11:01] <enyc> ;-)
[11:01] <pips1> ah!
[11:01] <pips1> lol
[11:01] <pips1> touch type
[11:02] <JaneW> enyc: look I am speaking to the guy building the thing, and they are calling it flight 5
[11:02] <JaneW> so *whatever*
[11:02] <enyc> pips1: in short, the dvorak sayout _is_ better but its a lot of work to learn... and your problems may just be due to incorrect tochnique ;-)
[11:02] <enyc> JaneW: k ;-)
[11:02] <JaneW> :P
[11:03] <enyc> JaneW: it doesn't really matter ;-)
[11:03] <JaneW> enyc: it's Mithrandir and infinty - feel free to argue about it with them ;)
[11:03] <pips1> highvolt1ge, I'd like to discuss a few basic things with you, maybe we can make an "official" appointment without interruptions, maybe next week, what do you think?
[11:03] <highvoltage> JaneW: can you confirm or deny rumours that dapper+1 is called edgy?
[11:03] <JaneW> neither
[11:03] <highvoltage> pips1: yes, any evening would be fine
[11:04] <pips1> what's evening for you (in UTC please) ;-)
[11:04] <pips1> enyc, where in uk?
[11:05] <enyc> pips1: in Swindon at the moment
[11:08] <pips1> JaneW, I hope I get the server - thin client working with flight5... I'm not an total newb, but some stuff about networking is still over my head...
[11:10] <pips1> highvoltage, how about next monday evening, 5 pm UTC?
[11:10] <highvoltage> JaneW: planning to come to 12plein next week?
[11:10] <highvoltage> that's.... 7pm my time.
[11:10] <highvoltage> pips1: yes, perfect.
[11:11] <pips1> highvoltage, ok, it's an appointment!
[11:11] <highvoltage> pips1: cool :)
[11:11] <pips1> :)
[11:11] <enyc> pips1: ?pips1 in UK?
[11:11] <pips1> switzerland
[11:12] <enyc> pips1: kk ;-)
[11:49] <enyc> moo de beep
[11:50] <JaneW> highvoltage: yeah I guess
[11:50] <JaneW> highvoltage: I need to collect my headset
[11:55] <highvoltage> JaneW: give me a heads-up, and i'll install an edubuntu machine, if you want to check it out
[12:00] <JaneW> highvoltage: ok, great :)
[12:10] <highvoltage> pips1: the basic site is fixed now :)
[12:10] <highvoltage> pips1: we now have a default site with spreadfirefox that works
[12:10] <highvoltage> pips1: i had to re-install drupal, the one the was on was 4.5.7 :/
[12:10] <highvoltage> pips1: but now we're on 4.6.5
[12:10] <highvoltage> pips1: will give you more of an update later...
[12:34] <pips1> highvoltage, good news!
[12:40] <highvoltage> pips1: erm... bad news...
[12:40] <highvoltage> :)
[12:40] <highvoltage> pips1: the old database didn't work so nicely with the new version
[12:41] <highvoltage> pips1: znarl is going to re-create the database, and then i'll populate it with the new version
[12:41] <highvoltage> pips1: either way, our biggest problems have been sorted out
[12:41] <highvoltage> :)
[01:14] <pips1> highvolt1ge, thanks for keeping me posted :-)
[01:18] <highvolt1ge> pips1: no problemo, we'll have the db working and populated before the end of the weekend :)
[01:27] <pips1> highvolt1ge, once the basic setup is done (drupal-out-of-the-box), we'll discuss what add-ons (modules) to use. We can make a start to discuss this on monday eve. There are one or two decisions that best need to be decided early on, to avoid headaches that come with disabling and re-jigging stuff later (I'll hope to explain this better on monday)
[01:30] <highvolt1ge> pips1: ok :)
[01:44] <ogra> highvolt1ge, the script only checks if SOUND is filled with *anything* :)
[01:45] <highvolt1ge> ogra: aaah, so "SOUND = false" would also start it? :)
[01:46] <ogra> yes :)
[01:47] <ogra> i need to fix that i guess :)
[01:47] <highvolt1ge> heh. that might be confusing fos someone trying to disable sound.
[01:47] <ogra> just dont set it 
[01:47] <highvolt1ge> are there other lts.conf tags that work the same?
[01:47] <ogra> no need to disable it explicitly
[01:47] <highvolt1ge> i realise that.
[01:48] <highvolt1ge> from an end-user perspective, they might set it to "n" or to "false", if it was previously set, and they want to disable it.
[01:48] <ogra> yep
[02:33] <iGotNoTime> Is it normal for mounted drives to become unmounted on reboot?
[02:33] <iGotNoTime> I mean it would be no big deal me if I could remember the steps each time
[02:34] <iGotNoTime> But this is the 4th time my drives are not showing up again
[02:40] <ogra> remove the "noauto" in their fstab line and they are mounted on boot
[02:42] <ogra> JaneW, ping
[02:45] <JaneW> ogra: pong (on phone to flint)
[02:45] <ogra> hahaha
[02:45] <JaneW> don't laugh!
[02:45] <ogra> argh
[02:45] <ogra> the install CD is broken 
[02:45] <JaneW> NO!
[02:46] <ogra> damned, yesterdays worked
[02:46] <JaneW> bugger - what can we do?
[02:46] <iGotNoTime> why is noauto in the line?
[02:47] <ogra> JaneW, i need to upload a ned edubuntu-meta or a new ltsp package 
[02:47] <ogra> *new
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> that makes as much sense as disabling all video cards on boot ?
[02:47] <ogra> ldm isnt on the CD apparently ... THISGODAMMNEDDEBIANCRAP !
[02:47] <iGotNoTime> LOL
[02:48] <JaneW> ogra: so can we fix it?
[02:49] <ogra> JaneW, sure if nobody uploads anything during the day
[02:53] <iGotNoTime> anyone here use * ?
[02:54] <crimsun> EPARSE
[02:54] <ogra> JaneW, my problem is, if the archive freeze is over, the CD will break again ... so we need to be fast ...
[02:54] <iGotNoTime> Asterisk * ?
[03:06] <JaneW> ogra: ok phone call over, what can I do?
[03:06] <ogra> nothing
[03:06] <ogra> i pushed the seedchange ... 
[03:07] <ogra> now i have to wait 20 min until the change shows up here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-dapper/server
[03:07] <ogra> then i can fix the metapackage and upload it ....
[03:07] <ogra> then we have to wait 2h until the package hits the archive
[03:07] <ogra> then i have to build a new iso 
[03:07] <enyc> moo de beep
[03:08] <ogra> then i have to download 3 isos again ... 
[03:08] <enyc> ?what is the 'seedchange'?
[03:08] <ogra> test and approve them ...
[03:08] <ogra> then its 7am and we have flight 5
[03:08] <enyc> wooot!
[03:08] <enyc> ;-)
[03:09] <enyc> so... flight-5 to be fossowed by beta-1-at-a-later-date ?
[03:09] <ogra> enyc, seeds are the lists of packages we genereate packages like edubuntu-desktop from
[03:09] <JaneW> ogra: ouch
[03:09] <enyc> ogra: hrrmmm... like dependant-packages etc. ;-)
[03:09] <ogra> JaneW, YES
[03:09] <ogra> JaneW, i tested the full set two days ago and all was fine ...
[03:10] <JaneW> why does this always happen before the flights? :(
[03:10] <ogra> no idea 
[03:10] <ogra> last flight was the worst ...
[03:10] <crimsun> better to have "bad" luck now and great luck for final
[03:10] <ogra> with the buildds on and off all the time 
[03:12] <JaneW> ogra: can anyone help you?
[03:12] <enyc> I remember pointing out that 'ubuntu-standard' (or something similar) for breezy had a silly duplicate-dependancy on bind9-host (already dependand on dnsutils) and why this was sillyy ... and Matt_Zimmerman said 'I've made the appropriate changes to the seed;'
[03:12] <ogra> JaneW, anyway, do we have an announcement prepared ? 
[03:12] <JaneW> or speed things up etc?
[03:12] <JaneW> ogra: erk, no!
[03:13] <ogra> nobody can speed it up ... sadly ...
[03:13] <JaneW> lmao - look what I found.. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/flint
[03:14] <enyc> So... the seed... is a database that is used to autogenerate  metapackages ?
[03:14] <ogra> its a bzr archive ... 
[03:14] <ogra> these are the edubuntu seeds: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-dapper/
[03:15] <ogra> i'm waiting for ldm to show up in the server seed now ...
[03:15] <ogra> JaneW, did you add the text :P ?
[03:15] <enyc> bzr ??
[03:16] <ogra> a versioning system ... like cvs ir svn ... the tool we use for all ubuntu/edubuntu development
[03:16] <enyc> kk
[03:16] <ogra> s/ir/or/
[03:17] <JaneW> ogra: no ;)
[03:17] <JaneW> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuFlight5Announcement
[03:18] <enyc> Woot ... serial mouse support works out of the box (e.g. older machines as thinclients ??)
[03:18] <ogra> yep
[03:18] <JaneW> ok that pages needs to be editted!
[03:18] <ogra> not out of the box though
[03:18] <ogra> but very easy to set up
[03:19] <JaneW> so far it;s flight 4 announcement with the 4's turned into 5s
[03:19] <enyc> Aah ok
[03:19] <enyc> JaneW: ;-)
[03:19] <JaneW> ogar: so what's new..?
[03:19] <ogra> JaneW, i guess i'll have much time while watching boring installs
[03:19] <ogra> not much 
[03:20] <ogra> most noticeable is that the bug that made you run ltsp-update-sshkeys after install is gone
[03:20] <ogra> all other stuff are bugfixes that wont be massively seen by users
[03:21] <ogra> and a lot of debian features were merged (one of them is the reason why i have to rebuild the CD )
[03:22] <enyc> ooh... what debian features ;-) ?
[03:22] <JaneW> yay to item one
[03:22] <enyc> What would be useful is a list of things to test and look-out-for  in flight5 testing ;-)
[03:22] <ogra> yeah ...
[03:23] <ogra> currently all thats intresting is if the install finishes properly ... :)
[03:23] <enyc> kk
[03:23] <ogra> but you are right, i'll make a list
[03:23] <JaneW> ogra: I strippped the announcement a bit more
[03:23] <enyc> ill have a go when I can ;-)
[03:23] <ogra> ok
[03:23] <JaneW> ogra: TY
[03:23] <JaneW> ping if you need me
[03:23] <ogra> will do
[03:23] <JaneW> or phone like flint does ;)
[03:24] <enyc> ''Edubuntu Flight 5, the 4th milestone CD'' -- ?is this right?
[03:24] <ogra> nope
[03:24] <ogra> its the 5th indeed :)
[03:24] <ogra> good catch, feel free to edit it 
[03:24] <enyc> ERROR in JaneW ;-)
[03:25] <ogra> get one ;)
[03:25] <enyc> Can I be 'enyc' ? ;-)
[03:25] <ogra> sure, why not 
[03:25] <JaneW> fixed
[03:26] <ogra> thanks :)
[03:26] <enyc> ''Your registration URL has been sent to''  [...] 
[03:30] <ogra> Accepted edubuntu-meta 0.60 (source)
[03:31] <ogra> there we go
[03:31] <ogra> now 2h of waiting
[03:31] <enyc> ogra: so what does the 'Given Name' 'Family Name'  do?
[03:31] <enyc> it has 'Display Name' too...
[03:31] <ogra> first name last name and the nick you want to be seen as
[03:32] <enyc> ogra: so... ?what does the first/last _do_ in lanchpad  if a 'Display Name' has been given?
[03:33] <ogra> you dont need to fill the given and family names ...
[03:33] <enyc> Well fine... I just wanted to know what those _did_ ;-)
[03:34] <ogra> the display name will be the name youre shown with to the public
[03:34] <enyc> yes... and tho other 2 do ... ?
[03:34] <ogra> no idea  ... they are there :)
[03:34] <enyc> kk ;-)
[03:34] <enyc> thx ;-)
[03:34] <ogra> i dont think they do anything, but i'm not sure :)
[03:35] <enyc> kk no matter ;-)
[03:38] <spacey> enyc: yeah same
[03:38] <enyc> spacey: aoeuidhtns! ;-)
[03:38] <spacey> but i haven' been in #adamantix for a long time
[03:38] <spacey> so what are you doing here :P
[03:39] <enyc> no matter ;-)
[03:39] <ogra> building flight 5
[03:39] <spacey> enyc: anyway i remember you :P
[04:05] <freeflying> ogra: ping
[04:06] <ogra> freeflying, pong
[04:06] <ogra> freeflying, did you talk to JaneW ?
[04:06] <freeflying> ogra: I can not take part in the i18n sprint ,due to the visa
[04:06] <ogra> gah, ok
[04:07] <freeflying> ogra: and told her 
[04:07] <freeflying> :)
[04:08] <freeflying> a guy from kongkong will go , and he also familiar with scim stuff
[04:08] <freeflying> s/kongkong/hongkong
[04:08] <ogra> ah, cool
[04:08] <ogra> gald we have someone :)
[04:08] <ogra> *glad
[04:09] <freeflying> ogra: we can do what we can in irc 
[05:37] <ogra> JaneW, gah, we need to rework all artwork, the new ubuntu colors look horrible with our colors
[05:37] <jsgotangco> gahhh
[05:38] <ogra> this strange apricot for window frames and selected items makes me want to vomit in compyny with our wallpaper
[05:39] <jsgotangco> ogra, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/110500695/
[05:39] <ogra> edubuntu ?
[05:40] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:40] <ogra> cool ! :)
[05:40] <jsgotangco> this was during the conference today
[05:40] <jsgotangco> they had 2 labs with edubuntu for the workshops
[05:40] <jsgotangco> for a conference down south, that is impressive
[05:42] <jsgotangco> ogra, gahhh this ubuntulooks look horrible for gartoon
[05:43] <ogra> yeah
[05:43] <ogra> we need to change the gtkrc and get back sane colors
[05:43] <ogra> (i'll just switch back to the human ones)
[05:43] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:47] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep
[05:47] <jsgotangco> ciao
[09:19] <Petaris> ogra: Which local apps were you using on the clients?
[09:22] <ogra> Petaris, local apps are not officially supported yet
[09:23] <Petaris> right, but you said that you were running some right?
[09:23] <ogra> nope
[09:23] <Petaris> I want to play with it for my server rebuild this summer
[09:23] <Petaris> oh
[09:23] <ogra> i guess you mix me up with highvoltage
[09:23] <Petaris> hrm
[09:23] <ogra> he runs several labs, even with fat clients and local apps
[09:24] <Petaris> ok, I will check with him
[09:50] <enyc> meeeep ;-)
[09:51] <Burgwork> enyc, hmm?
[09:55] <enyc> Burgwork: moo de beep ;-)
[10:39] <linuxboy> hi
[10:39] <Burgwork> salut linuxboy 
[10:39] <linuxboy> I'm looking for ltsp help and was directed here
[10:40] <linuxboy> this the right place to be ?
[10:40] <ogra_> yep
[10:40] <linuxboy> cool
[10:40] <linuxboy> so, I've setup ltsp on my PC
[10:40] <linuxboy> and I want another PC to PXE boot
[10:40] <ogra_> the ubuntu ltsp ?
[10:40] <linuxboy> but it doesn't support PXE booting
[10:40] <linuxboy> ogra_: correct
[10:41] <linuxboy> how can I make a boot floppy?
[10:41] <linuxboy> I tried http://www.rom-o-matic.net
[10:41] <linuxboy> but I'm not sure which image to get
[10:41] <ogra_> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[10:41] <ogra_> that lists all the options you need :)
[10:41] <linuxboy> aaah
[10:41] <linuxboy> i was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[10:46] <ogra_> thats not really appropriate for edubuntu (even if it explains the basics)
[10:46] <linuxboy> well... I'm not doing edubuntu
[10:47] <ogra_> ah, k
[10:47] <ogra_> then the Howto is right 
[10:47] <linuxboy> just not detailed enough
[10:47] <linuxboy> (the PXE floppy part)
[10:47] <linuxboy> (but it doesn't have to be)
[10:48] <ogra_> imho it hides the simplicissity of setting up ltsp on ubuntu ...
[10:48] <ogra_> you can shrink it down to three lines to get  a fine working ltsp server 
[10:48] <linuxboy> true
[10:48] <linuxboy> i like longer howtos
[10:48] <linuxboy> k, lets try this boot floppy...
[10:52] <linuxboy> nope didn't work
[10:52] <ogra_> whats the error ? 
[10:52] <ogra_> it doesnt pick up an ip ?
[10:53] <linuxboy> no
[10:53] <linuxboy> just a bunch of crap
[10:53] <ogra_> crap like ? 
[10:53] <linuxboy> I dunno
[10:53] <linuxboy> numbers and dots and stuff
[10:54] <linuxboy> I'll try again in the morning
[10:54] <linuxboy> this PXE floppy stuff is teh suck
[10:55] <enyc> whenis flight-5 cds available? ;-)
[10:55] <ogra_> you need to give a bit more precise info 
[10:55] <ogra_> dots and numbers doesnt tell me much 
[10:55] <ogra_> normally there is an error message anywhere 
[10:55] <linuxboy> nope
[10:55] <linuxboy> none
[10:55] <linuxboy> I don't get any dhcp lease either
[10:55] <linuxboy> its like, before PXE starts
[10:56] <enyc> aaah
[10:56] <linuxboy> and no, there isn't an error message
[10:56] <enyc> network card boot bios.....
[10:57] <linuxboy> dunno
[10:57] <linuxboy> I'm booting off a PXE floppy
[10:57] <enyc> aah hrrm
[10:58] <ogra_> right floppy for the card ? is the dhcp server running on the server ? 
[10:58] <linuxboy> I'll try another NIC or something
[10:58] <linuxboy> ogra_: look at this list: http://www.rom-o-matic.net/5.4.1/
[10:58] <linuxboy> look for the rtl8139
[10:58] <linuxboy> there are tons
[10:59] <ogra_> did you check with the pci id as described ?
[10:59] <linuxboy> dhcpd is running
[10:59] <ogra_> there may be tons, but only one with your pci id :)
[10:59] <linuxboy> as described where?
[11:00] <ogra_> in the howto 
[11:00] <linuxboy> where in the howto?
[11:00] <ogra_> at the top
[11:00] <ogra_> hmm
[11:00] <ogra_> oh
[11:00] <ogra_> ok
[11:00] <linuxboy> yeeesss?
[11:00] <ogra_> make that lspci -n 
[11:01] <ogra_> that will give you vendor and device id as used on rom-o-matic
[11:01] <linuxboy> -n sucks
[11:01] <linuxboy> -nv is better imho
[11:01] <linuxboy> actually, nope
[11:01] <linuxboy> that sucks too
[11:02] <linuxboy> nah
[11:02] <linuxboy> it still sucks
[11:02] <linuxboy> on this PC (the server)
[11:02] <linuxboy> I have this:
[11:02] <linuxboy> 0000:02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
[11:02] <linuxboy> and
[11:02] <linuxboy> 0000:02:0e.0 0200: 100b:0020
[11:02] <linuxboy> oh
[11:03] <linuxboy> sorry
[11:03] <linuxboy> yes, thats right
[11:03] <ogra_> lspci -n |grep $(lspci |grep Ethernet|awk '{print $1}')|awk '{print $3}'
[11:03] <ogra_> copy and paste that ;)
[11:03] <ogra_> shoudl give you  100b:0020
[11:03] <ogra_> :)
[11:03] <linuxboy> yeah
[11:04] <ogra_> great now look for the right floppy based on the IDs
[11:04] <linuxboy> well... that howto isn't very clear on that
[11:04] <linuxboy> needs updating
[11:04] <ogra_> set the options as described 
[11:04] <ogra_> yep
[11:04] <linuxboy> I'm going to bed
[11:04] <linuxboy> I'll try in the morning
[11:04] <ogra_> its already several months old 
[11:04] <linuxboy> night
[11:04] <ogra_> night