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[02:26] Seveas, never mind === susus [n=sz@p5089CC56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #edubuntu === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.44] has joined #edubuntu === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === sc [n=sc@wa-pullman-cuda1l-17.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === Dupliwulf [n=Adalwulf@dialup-4.253.11.75.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan is now known as sm|away === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-154-109.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=NONE@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=NONE@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-65-246-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] [09:44] highvoltage: do you have any "new computer user intros" [09:44] ie, someone who has never touched a computer before and they are sitting before an Ubuntu/Edubuntu computer? [09:44] Burgundavia: not that i can think of :/ [09:45] Burgundavia: i do have some docs, but i didn't write them and they're a bit dodgy [09:45] Burgundavia: but if you'd like to look at them i could send them to you (or at least a link) [09:46] I am looking at creating/modifying some as part of this project I am working on === pips1 [n=philipp@55-2.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [10:31] highvolt1ge, hi [10:32] yo pips1 [10:32] do you need to rush off in a min? ;-) === pips1 is poking fun at highvolt1ge [10:34] pips1: hehe. strangely enough. not! :) [10:34] good [10:34] :-) [10:35] pips1: got the username/passwd? [10:35] yes, thanks [10:35] do you want to discuss via jabber? === pips1 notices that highvolt1ge seems unavailable on jabber at the moment [10:37] highvolt1ge, I am testing some modules for drupal and making notes as I go along [10:37] (on my local test machine) [10:38] at some point, I was thinking of putting up some points on a wiki page, so we can discuss certain ideas, what do you think? === enyc wonders what clever improvements r.e. terminal-servicer in edubuntu / dapper have been going on ;-) [10:40] pips1: yes, i'm here, just multitasking :) === enyc wonders if the ltsp servers-client stuff now does sound over network ;-) [10:40] pips1: i think that's a good idea, it makes it easier for others to contribute too [10:41] yep! [10:43] highvolt1ge, multitasking can be a drag... it's nice when one can focus on one thing. Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury all the time... It seems that you are always busy with several things, eh? [10:45] highvolt1ge, I'd like to discuss a few basic things with you, maybe we can make an "official" appointment without interruptions, maybe next week, what do you think? [10:45] darn! [10:45] all those timeouts, too :-/ [10:46] aoeuidhtns! === sm|away is now known as sankarshan [10:49] enyc, you on dvorak keyboard layout? [10:49] pips1: ',.pyfgcrl aoeuidhtns ;qjkxbmwvz ;-) [10:50] abh [10:50] bah === enyc on a clickykeyboard with dvorak ;-) [10:51] we need edubuntu testers for flight 5 please [10:51] *please* [10:51] I thought.... flight-5 was going to be beta-1 [10:51] ? [10:51] Ill do what I can ;-) [10:52] but I want to know whats going on ;-) [10:52] it's being built pretty much now [10:52] but I want to know if the ltsp etc. terminal services does sound-over-network ;-) [10:52] do you have separate flight releases to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu ?? [10:53] JaneW, last release, I only tested workstation install, this time, I'll try to test a server - thin client setup... [10:54] JaneW, I tried with flight4 without much success [10:55] enyc: we will have one release announcement with links to the diff distro specifics [10:55] enyc, how long did it take you to learn dvorak? [10:56] pips1: errrrm [10:56] pips1: well... [10:56] pips1: bear in mind ive qwerty'ing since before I can remember ;-) [10:56] pips1: and never learnt proper typing tochnique as suct [10:57] enyc, same here.. oh, no, I learnt to touch time in secondary school... [10:57] pips1: and got achey-fingers and so-on === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === enyc throws touch_time at pips1 [10:57] pips1: yep [10:57] enyc, yeah, my wrists are starting to kill me and thus I'm also considering learning dvorak... [10:57] pips1: erm... 2 weeks of frustration [10:57] pips1: and months of getting used to it ;-) [10:57] pips1: with lots of mental effort ;-) [10:57] JaneW: i've tested about everything i can in flight4, i'm hungry for new edubuntu to test! [10:58] pips1: but now ith doesn't annoy me [10:58] and the re-leaning and the better-layout means I have got rid of my achey-finger problem [10:58] enyc, good to hear you got on top of it! [10:58] highvoltage: cool stay tuned [10:58] pips1: but it took me a long_time [10:58] enyc, that's good encouragement, though [10:58] and im not as fost as my original qwerty'ing [10:58] but I can still use qwerty [10:58] pips1: hopefully you'll have more luck with flight 5 === JaneW looked at dvorak and got scared! [10:59] JaneW: somebody I spoke to on #ubuntu+1 said the next prerelease would likely be 'beta-1' not 'flight-5' === enyc pokes JaneW with a clickykeyboard === enyc quote [1391406 1990-06-20] [11:00] enyc, is touch_time that program that forces you to pause in intervals? [11:00] pips1: I dont know [11:00] pips1: thats something you mentioned ;-) === enyc quote [ < pips1> enyc, same here.. oh, no, I learnt to touch time in secondary school...] [11:01] ;-) [11:01] ah! [11:01] lol [11:01] touch type === enyc throws pyfgcrl's at pips1 === pips1 thinks enyc likes lobbing things around [11:02] enyc: look I am speaking to the guy building the thing, and they are calling it flight 5 [11:02] so *whatever* [11:02] pips1: in short, the dvorak sayout _is_ better but its a lot of work to learn... and your problems may just be due to incorrect tochnique ;-) [11:02] JaneW: k ;-) [11:02] :P [11:03] JaneW: it doesn't really matter ;-) [11:03] enyc: it's Mithrandir and infinty - feel free to argue about it with them ;) [11:03] highvolt1ge, I'd like to discuss a few basic things with you, maybe we can make an "official" appointment without interruptions, maybe next week, what do you think? [11:03] JaneW: can you confirm or deny rumours that dapper+1 is called edgy? [11:03] neither [11:03] pips1: yes, any evening would be fine === JaneW has heard nothing about dapper+1 yet [11:04] what's evening for you (in UTC please) ;-) === enyc lives in UTC(GMT) here... lol [11:04] enyc, where in uk? [11:05] pips1: in Swindon at the moment [11:08] JaneW, I hope I get the server - thin client working with flight5... I'm not an total newb, but some stuff about networking is still over my head... [11:10] highvoltage, how about next monday evening, 5 pm UTC? [11:10] JaneW: planning to come to 12plein next week? [11:10] that's.... 7pm my time. [11:10] pips1: yes, perfect. [11:11] highvoltage, ok, it's an appointment! [11:11] pips1: cool :) [11:11] :) [11:11] pips1: ?pips1 in UK? [11:11] switzerland [11:12] pips1: kk ;-) === pips1 goes back to testing drupal modules === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === C-O-L-T [n=NONE@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D230.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] moo de beep [11:50] highvoltage: yeah I guess [11:50] highvoltage: I need to collect my headset [11:55] JaneW: give me a heads-up, and i'll install an edubuntu machine, if you want to check it out [12:00] highvoltage: ok, great :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=NONE@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [12:10] pips1: the basic site is fixed now :) [12:10] pips1: we now have a default site with spreadfirefox that works [12:10] pips1: i had to re-install drupal, the one the was on was 4.5.7 :/ [12:10] pips1: but now we're on 4.6.5 [12:10] pips1: will give you more of an update later... === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu [12:34] highvoltage, good news! [12:40] pips1: erm... bad news... [12:40] :) [12:40] pips1: the old database didn't work so nicely with the new version [12:41] pips1: znarl is going to re-create the database, and then i'll populate it with the new version [12:41] pips1: either way, our biggest problems have been sorted out [12:41] :) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [01:14] highvolt1ge, thanks for keeping me posted :-) [01:18] pips1: no problemo, we'll have the db working and populated before the end of the weekend :) [01:27] highvolt1ge, once the basic setup is done (drupal-out-of-the-box), we'll discuss what add-ons (modules) to use. We can make a start to discuss this on monday eve. There are one or two decisions that best need to be decided early on, to avoid headaches that come with disabling and re-jigging stuff later (I'll hope to explain this better on monday) [01:30] pips1: ok :) === hannes_ [i=hannes@dna254-92.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #edubuntu [01:44] highvolt1ge, the script only checks if SOUND is filled with *anything* :) [01:45] ogra: aaah, so "SOUND = false" would also start it? :) [01:46] yes :) [01:47] i need to fix that i guess :) [01:47] heh. that might be confusing fos someone trying to disable sound. [01:47] just dont set it [01:47] are there other lts.conf tags that work the same? [01:47] no need to disable it explicitly [01:47] i realise that. [01:48] from an end-user perspective, they might set it to "n" or to "false", if it was previously set, and they want to disable it. [01:48] yep === Adalwulf [n=Adalwulf@dialup-4.227.29.168.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.122.32] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan is now known as sm|Friday === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [02:33] Is it normal for mounted drives to become unmounted on reboot? [02:33] I mean it would be no big deal me if I could remember the steps each time [02:34] But this is the 4th time my drives are not showing up again [02:40] remove the "noauto" in their fstab line and they are mounted on boot === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === hannes_ [i=hannes@dna254-92.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #edubuntu [02:42] JaneW, ping [02:45] ogra: pong (on phone to flint) [02:45] hahaha [02:45] don't laugh! [02:45] argh [02:45] the install CD is broken [02:45] NO! [02:46] damned, yesterdays worked [02:46] bugger - what can we do? [02:46] why is noauto in the line? [02:47] JaneW, i need to upload a ned edubuntu-meta or a new ltsp package [02:47] *new [02:47] that makes as much sense as disabling all video cards on boot ? [02:47] ldm isnt on the CD apparently ... THISGODAMMNEDDEBIANCRAP ! [02:47] LOL [02:48] ogra: so can we fix it? [02:49] JaneW, sure if nobody uploads anything during the day [02:53] anyone here use * ? [02:54] EPARSE [02:54] JaneW, my problem is, if the archive freeze is over, the CD will break again ... so we need to be fast ... [02:54] Asterisk * ? [03:06] ogra: ok phone call over, what can I do? [03:06] nothing [03:06] i pushed the seedchange ... [03:07] now i have to wait 20 min until the change shows up here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-dapper/server [03:07] then i can fix the metapackage and upload it .... [03:07] then we have to wait 2h until the package hits the archive [03:07] then i have to build a new iso [03:07] moo de beep [03:08] then i have to download 3 isos again ... [03:08] ?what is the 'seedchange'? [03:08] test and approve them ... [03:08] then its 7am and we have flight 5 [03:08] wooot! [03:08] ;-) === enyc meeps happily at ogra === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] so... flight-5 to be fossowed by beta-1-at-a-later-date ? [03:09] enyc, seeds are the lists of packages we genereate packages like edubuntu-desktop from [03:09] ogra: ouch [03:09] ogra: hrrmmm... like dependant-packages etc. ;-) [03:09] JaneW, YES [03:09] JaneW, i tested the full set two days ago and all was fine ... === ogra had planned other stuff for the day :( === hannes___ [i=hannes@dna254-92.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #edubuntu [03:10] why does this always happen before the flights? :( [03:10] no idea [03:10] last flight was the worst ... [03:10] better to have "bad" luck now and great luck for final [03:10] with the buildds on and off all the time [03:12] ogra: can anyone help you? [03:12] I remember pointing out that 'ubuntu-standard' (or something similar) for breezy had a silly duplicate-dependancy on bind9-host (already dependand on dnsutils) and why this was sillyy ... and Matt_Zimmerman said 'I've made the appropriate changes to the seed;' [03:12] JaneW, anyway, do we have an announcement prepared ? [03:12] or speed things up etc? [03:12] ogra: erk, no! [03:13] nobody can speed it up ... sadly ... [03:13] lmao - look what I found.. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/flint [03:14] So... the seed... is a database that is used to autogenerate metapackages ? [03:14] its a bzr archive ... [03:14] these are the edubuntu seeds: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-dapper/ [03:15] i'm waiting for ldm to show up in the server seed now ... [03:15] JaneW, did you add the text :P ? [03:15] bzr ?? [03:16] a versioning system ... like cvs ir svn ... the tool we use for all ubuntu/edubuntu development [03:16] kk [03:16] s/ir/or/ [03:17] ogra: no ;) [03:17] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuFlight5Announcement [03:18] Woot ... serial mouse support works out of the box (e.g. older machines as thinclients ??) [03:18] yep [03:18] ok that pages needs to be editted! [03:18] not out of the box though [03:18] but very easy to set up [03:19] so far it;s flight 4 announcement with the 4's turned into 5s [03:19] Aah ok [03:19] JaneW: ;-) [03:19] ogar: so what's new..? [03:19] JaneW, i guess i'll have much time while watching boring installs [03:19] not much [03:20] most noticeable is that the bug that made you run ltsp-update-sshkeys after install is gone [03:20] all other stuff are bugfixes that wont be massively seen by users [03:21] and a lot of debian features were merged (one of them is the reason why i have to rebuild the CD ) [03:22] ooh... what debian features ;-) ? [03:22] yay to item one [03:22] What would be useful is a list of things to test and look-out-for in flight5 testing ;-) [03:22] yeah ... [03:23] currently all thats intresting is if the install finishes properly ... :) [03:23] kk [03:23] but you are right, i'll make a list [03:23] ogra: I strippped the announcement a bit more [03:23] ill have a go when I can ;-) [03:23] ok [03:23] ogra: TY [03:23] ping if you need me [03:23] will do [03:23] or phone like flint does ;) [03:24] ''Edubuntu Flight 5, the 4th milestone CD'' -- ?is this right? [03:24] nope [03:24] its the 5th indeed :) [03:24] good catch, feel free to edit it [03:24] ERROR in JaneW ;-) === enyc thinks... I dont have a edubuntu wiki login [03:25] get one ;) [03:25] Can I be 'enyc' ? ;-) [03:25] sure, why not [03:25] fixed [03:26] thanks :) [03:26] ''Your registration URL has been sent to'' [...] [03:30] Accepted edubuntu-meta 0.60 (source) [03:31] there we go [03:31] now 2h of waiting [03:31] ogra: so what does the 'Given Name' 'Family Name' do? [03:31] it has 'Display Name' too... [03:31] first name last name and the nick you want to be seen as [03:32] ogra: so... ?what does the first/last _do_ in lanchpad if a 'Display Name' has been given? [03:33] you dont need to fill the given and family names ... [03:33] Well fine... I just wanted to know what those _did_ ;-) [03:34] the display name will be the name youre shown with to the public [03:34] yes... and tho other 2 do ... ? [03:34] no idea ... they are there :) [03:34] kk ;-) [03:34] thx ;-) === enyc registered now [03:34] i dont think they do anything, but i'm not sure :) [03:35] kk no matter ;-) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === enyc meep moops at spacey === enyc wonders if spacey is anything todo with spacey from #adamantix [03:38] enyc: yeah same [03:38] spacey: aoeuidhtns! ;-) [03:38] but i haven' been in #adamantix for a long time [03:38] so what are you doing here :P [03:39] no matter ;-) [03:39] building flight 5 [03:39] enyc: anyway i remember you :P === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #edubuntu [04:05] ogra: ping [04:06] freeflying, pong [04:06] freeflying, did you talk to JaneW ? [04:06] ogra: I can not take part in the i18n sprint ,due to the visa [04:06] gah, ok [04:07] ogra: and told her === ogra curses buerocracy [04:07] :) [04:08] a guy from kongkong will go , and he also familiar with scim stuff [04:08] s/kongkong/hongkong [04:08] ah, cool [04:08] gald we have someone :) [04:08] *glad [04:09] ogra: we can do what we can in irc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === enyc thinks... Beauracracy === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:37] JaneW, gah, we need to rework all artwork, the new ubuntu colors look horrible with our colors [05:37] gahhh [05:38] this strange apricot for window frames and selected items makes me want to vomit in compyny with our wallpaper [05:39] ogra, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/110500695/ [05:39] edubuntu ? [05:40] yeah [05:40] cool ! :) [05:40] this was during the conference today [05:40] they had 2 labs with edubuntu for the workshops [05:40] for a conference down south, that is impressive [05:42] ogra, gahhh this ubuntulooks look horrible for gartoon [05:43] yeah [05:43] we need to change the gtkrc and get back sane colors [05:43] (i'll just switch back to the human ones) [05:43] yeah === enyc really wants to kno howto change the green/blue link colours in firefox..... (and mail display colour in thunderbird) [05:47] i gotta sleep [05:47] ciao === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-170-19.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Dupliwulf [n=Adalwulf@dialup-4.253.69.120.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@164.77.155.192] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D543.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953ee.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [09:19] ogra: Which local apps were you using on the clients? [09:22] Petaris, local apps are not officially supported yet [09:23] right, but you said that you were running some right? [09:23] nope [09:23] I want to play with it for my server rebuild this summer [09:23] oh [09:23] i guess you mix me up with highvoltage [09:23] hrm [09:23] he runs several labs, even with fat clients and local apps [09:24] ok, I will check with him === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D543.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CAA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:50] meeeep ;-) [09:51] enyc, hmm? [09:55] Burgwork: moo de beep ;-) === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === linuxboy [n=anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:39] hi [10:39] salut linuxboy [10:39] I'm looking for ltsp help and was directed here [10:40] this the right place to be ? [10:40] yep [10:40] cool [10:40] so, I've setup ltsp on my PC [10:40] and I want another PC to PXE boot [10:40] the ubuntu ltsp ? [10:40] but it doesn't support PXE booting [10:40] ogra_: correct [10:41] how can I make a boot floppy? [10:41] I tried http://www.rom-o-matic.net [10:41] but I'm not sure which image to get [10:41] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe [10:41] that lists all the options you need :) [10:41] aaah [10:41] i was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto [10:46] thats not really appropriate for edubuntu (even if it explains the basics) [10:46] well... I'm not doing edubuntu [10:47] ah, k [10:47] then the Howto is right [10:47] just not detailed enough [10:47] (the PXE floppy part) [10:47] (but it doesn't have to be) [10:48] imho it hides the simplicissity of setting up ltsp on ubuntu ... [10:48] you can shrink it down to three lines to get a fine working ltsp server [10:48] true [10:48] i like longer howtos [10:48] k, lets try this boot floppy... === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:52] nope didn't work [10:52] whats the error ? [10:52] it doesnt pick up an ip ? [10:53] no [10:53] just a bunch of crap [10:53] crap like ? [10:53] I dunno [10:53] numbers and dots and stuff [10:54] I'll try again in the morning [10:54] this PXE floppy stuff is teh suck === enyc can test out flight-5 whatnot later... [10:55] whenis flight-5 cds available? ;-) [10:55] you need to give a bit more precise info [10:55] dots and numbers doesnt tell me much === enyc knows what ogra_ means... ;-( [10:55] normally there is an error message anywhere [10:55] nope [10:55] none [10:55] I don't get any dhcp lease either [10:55] its like, before PXE starts [10:56] aaah [10:56] and no, there isn't an error message [10:56] network card boot bios..... [10:57] dunno [10:57] I'm booting off a PXE floppy [10:57] aah hrrm === enyc has e100 cards that can boot from dhcp/PXE.... [10:58] right floppy for the card ? is the dhcp server running on the server ? [10:58] I'll try another NIC or something [10:58] ogra_: look at this list: http://www.rom-o-matic.net/5.4.1/ [10:58] look for the rtl8139 [10:58] there are tons === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94b35.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:59] did you check with the pci id as described ? [10:59] dhcpd is running [10:59] there may be tons, but only one with your pci id :) [10:59] as described where? [11:00] in the howto [11:00] where in the howto? [11:00] at the top [11:00] hmm [11:00] oh [11:00] ok [11:00] yeeesss? [11:00] make that lspci -n [11:01] that will give you vendor and device id as used on rom-o-matic [11:01] -n sucks [11:01] -nv is better imho [11:01] actually, nope [11:01] that sucks too [11:02] nah [11:02] it still sucks [11:02] on this PC (the server) [11:02] I have this: [11:02] 0000:02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller [11:02] and [11:02] 0000:02:0e.0 0200: 100b:0020 [11:02] oh [11:03] sorry [11:03] yes, thats right [11:03] lspci -n |grep $(lspci |grep Ethernet|awk '{print $1}')|awk '{print $3}' [11:03] copy and paste that ;) [11:03] shoudl give you 100b:0020 [11:03] :) [11:03] yeah [11:04] great now look for the right floppy based on the IDs [11:04] well... that howto isn't very clear on that [11:04] needs updating [11:04] set the options as described [11:04] yep [11:04]