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brandondoes anyone have a ati radeion 9550? i cant install the drivers for it.12:09
ufo!ati12:11
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:11
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ufobrandon, use the last thread12:11
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brandonk12:12
tegeilludhi all12:12
durgalooking for an alternative to amarok..any ideas ?12:12
tegeilludxmms12:12
tegeillud?12:12
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sbauerhello12:12
sbaueri have a problem with kubuntu/ati drivers12:12
tegeilludhi12:12
sbaueri installed the new fglrx drivers12:13
Yannuxdoes someone has setup ati drviers with kubuntu dapper ?12:13
sbauerfor 3D - support12:13
_mindspinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:13
Yannuxdrivers*12:13
_mindspinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:13
Yannuxsbauer: oh same perhaps12:13
_mindspinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:13
sbauernow i have the problem, that i want to use ONLY my extern tft-monitor... but the notebook-tft is always on12:14
_mindspinyou were just alittle late sbauer12:14
sbaueri can't switch it off12:14
sbauerit would not matter, if the notebook-tft is on, but my extern-tft always has problems with the screen, if the two tfts are running12:14
frank23Everyone check out Democracy! its the assomest thing I've seen in a while. It's a podcast directory/downloader/viewer (pretty buggy, but still cool)12:15
sbaueri dont know why12:15
brandonis linux better with games like americas army than windows?12:16
me2winbrandon, why dont you try it out :d12:16
brandonlol12:17
brandoni will12:17
brandoni was just wondering if anyone had experienced any problems12:17
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_lucaciao a tutti12:21
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leafwcan anyone on kubuntu-powerpc confirm me that glxgears works on a ssh -X connection?12:23
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leafwdoesn't work on Breezy12:23
leafwbut maybe on dapper?12:24
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leafwARGH12:26
leafwI need the Xorg to be able to run opengl applications remotely12:26
leafwbug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/2745912:26
leafwis this fixed on Dapper? Any ppc user around ?12:26
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buzinutuHi guys: I must say I was very disapointed not to find audacity on the linux list of programs even though it was availble in windows12:31
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HymnToLifebuzinutu> it _is_ aailable for linux12:32
buzinututotal wast of cd space if you ask me12:32
buzinutuyes availble but not on the ubunutu live CD12:32
leafwbuzinutu: it is, just enable the universe or thetiverse mul12:32
leafwbuzinutu: YES on the live CD: enable the /etc/apt/sources.list12:33
leafwI mean, the universe/multiver12:33
leafwand then just sudo apt-get install audacity12:33
leafwon the livecd12:33
leafwit will work.12:33
leafwneeds network connection though.12:33
buzinututhats my point12:34
leafwthen download 'medialinux'12:34
buzinutu??12:34
leafwhas all video/audio/3D-2D graphics apps out there12:34
leafwit's a liveCD with all those apps.12:34
buzinututhanks12:35
leafwyw12:35
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leafwhttp://www.mediainlinux.org/12:35
buzinutuI mean it was on the windows side of the same CD but not on kubunutu side hell none of the windows programs are availble for Linux not even FireFox12:36
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buzinutuA wast of space and memory12:36
leafwbuzinutu: the ubuntu.com guys have their reasons12:37
leafwwhatever12:37
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Yannuxsomeone did setup xgl with kubuntu dapper ?12:38
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_mindspin!dapper12:46
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update12:46
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treakathhey all12:47
HymnToLife!tell treakath about hello12:47
HymnToLifelmao this thing is stupid, I like it :D12:47
treakathany1 no where i can download fedora from??12:48
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HymnToLifefedora.redhat.org I assume12:48
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qwertyuneed help!!12:49
brandonwhy do ppl like linux better than windows12:49
HymnToLifebecause it _is_ better12:49
HymnToLife!helpme12:49
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.12:49
brandonhow is it better?12:50
brandonlol12:50
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brandonlinux=freedom windows=compatibalty12:50
qwertyui have a problem with kubuntu.. the problem is, it run smoothly on my machine!12:50
HymnToLifeget a 486 DX12:51
Snake__qwertyu: oh man...thats bad12:51
HymnToLifeit will fix that :D12:51
Snake__qwertyu: Quick. Screw something up.12:51
Snake__:P12:51
qwertyubut only for 5 minutes..12:51
HymnToLifeyou can also run sudo rm -R /12:51
brandonlol throw it out the window jk...12:51
qwertyuthen my monitor is shut down suddently..12:52
treakathno its not at that site to download fedora12:52
qwertyu"warning: input signal out of range"12:52
brandonoooh thats easy12:52
qwertyuwhy is that happened?12:52
brandonyour resolusion is too high12:52
HymnToLifefedira.redhat.com <= my mistake12:52
HymnToLifeit's beeen a while since I used FC though12:53
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treakathcan you find the download page12:54
qwertyui use 1280by1024 on mandriva 2006 before but nothing happened on it.12:54
treakathpleases12:54
Snake__qwertyu: You could come here and install amarok beta 2... :D12:54
HymnToLifehttp://fedora.redhat.com/Download/12:54
brandonhmmm is your graphics card installed propley and updated drivers?12:55
qwertyui have the problem with kubuntu on 1280by768 resolution..12:55
brandonis everything updated?12:55
qwertyui used ATI radeon 9250 graphic card and having 3d acceleration on kubuntu.12:56
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brandonor you could try to change your refreash rete12:57
brandonrate12:57
qwertyulas night i've downloaded the new kubuntu iso.12:57
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treakathi dont want that one12:58
qwertyui use 60hz 1280x1024 on windows, on linux i use 75hz 1280x76812:59
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HymnToLifetreakath> didn't you just ask for the Fedora downloads page ?12:59
qwertyuis that mean, in linux i have to change the rate to 60hz and the resolution to 1280x1024?01:00
qwertyucoz the setting work on my windows machine.. :-)01:00
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treakathyea but it got for cd downloads01:00
E-Traini just upgraded my 512ram to 1gig and after using a number of programs and closing them i only have about 150mb free; not i have firefox, xmms, and konversation open and i only have 24 mb free. whats the deal?01:00
HymnToLifeand what did you want ?01:00
treakathfor01:00
HymnToLifeE-Train> how big is your swap ?01:01
qwertyuam i right?01:01
treakathwho?01:02
HymnToLifeqwertyu> if it works in windows it will most likely work in linux01:02
E-Trainhymn - how can i check/01:02
E-Train?01:02
brandonwhat would you ppl recommed firefox or knqueror01:03
HymnToLifeopera :)01:03
brandonlol01:04
brandonnever used it01:04
HymnToLifeE-Train> sudo fdisk -l01:04
E-Trainlooks like about 1.51 gig01:05
HymnToLifethat is more than enough01:06
Snake__Opera01:07
E-Trainhymn - how do you free up ram then?01:07
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E-Trainhymn - how do you free up ram then?01:11
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HymnToLifehmm dunno about that01:12
HymnToLifeall my Ubuntus always worked fine01:12
HymnToLife!ram01:12
ubotuHymnToLife: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:12
E-Trainso you compute with only like 10% resources free?01:13
stephanshave you seen the cool novell desktop gui effects and menu?01:13
stephanswill they be in dapper too?01:14
stephans3d effect and a re-designed menu01:14
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steveklHey hey01:18
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brandonwtf? i can hear things come thrugh my mic and out my speakers but thats it!!!!01:25
brandonnothing else has sound01:25
crimsunpastebin amixer output01:26
crimsun(presuming you only have one active sound card)01:26
brandonyes only one01:26
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brandonso u want me to put (pastebin amixer output in the concle?)01:28
brandonor what?01:28
brandonlol01:29
HymnToLife!pastebin01:29
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)01:29
brandonohhh lol got ya01:29
brandonahh this is what is says: amixer: Unknown command 'output'...01:30
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brandonohh nvm01:32
brandonlol soz01:32
brandonhttp://pastebin.com/59360601:33
brandonthere ya go01:33
crimsunare you actually using the digital output of your speakers?01:34
brandon?01:35
brandonlol01:35
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brandonuhhh.. iam useing sb live output01:36
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crimsunno, are you using normal speakers or hooking the output into a digital stereo receiver, for instance?01:37
Earlbhey guys... any WoW players in here?01:37
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brandoniam useing normal speakers01:39
crimsunbrandon: then you need to mute 'IEC958'01:40
crimsunin a Konsole, amixer sset 'IEC958' off01:40
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brandonk i done it01:40
crimsunnow play some music01:41
brandonone sec01:41
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brandonomg nothing......... ;( :@01:46
steveklHey do any of you experience crashes with krusader when you try to sort by size?01:46
brandongames music ....nothing..............................01:47
brandonany other advice01:47
brandon?01:48
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brandonanyone?01:49
crimsunamixer sset 'Exchange Front/Surround' off01:50
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crimsuneither that or turn up your 'Surround'01:50
brandonkk01:50
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brandonnothing that is sooooo weird i can hear me talk thru my mic but i dont have any other kind of sound01:52
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brandonits says mono play back off should it be like that?01:53
DeBerthey guys, what's the best way to get multimedia working in kubuntu? VLC, mplayer or Xine? Switched from ubuntu recently.01:54
crimsunbrandon: yes01:54
HymnToLifeVLC for me01:55
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DeBertdoes it embed nicely with konqueror?01:55
crimsunbrandon: why don't you just mute your mic?01:55
brandonmy sound worked with debian01:55
brandonahh.... i dont know01:55
brandonlool01:55
tedhow do you get flash player installed ?01:56
ted???01:56
HymnToLife!flash01:57
uboturumour has it, flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:57
tedthank you.... I will check it out.... i'm new sorry01:57
HymnToLife!no flash is <reply> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:58
ubotuokay, HymnToLife01:58
HymnToLifeno problem :)01:58
ted:)01:59
HymnToLifewe all were one day01:59
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steveklDeBert: I like VLC personally (i'm assuming you mean video playing)02:03
brandonhow to i install codeine 1.0 <~media player its a .tar.bz202:04
crimsunbrandon: does your sound work yet?02:05
brandonno....:(02:06
crimsunis this a dist-upgrade or a fresh install?02:07
brandonahh i was ubuntu but i upgrade to kubuntu02:08
crimsunfrom hoary-> breezy, or breezy-> dapper?02:08
brandonbreezy02:09
crimsunok, so you didn't dist-upgrade at all02:11
crimsunplease unmute and increase all 'Surround' elements, mute the 'Mic'02:11
crimsunplease also mute 'Exchange Center/LFE'02:12
crimsunthen unmute 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE'02:12
brandonya i did dist-upgrade, everything is unmuted and the mic is muted02:12
crimsunwait, you dist-upgraded from hoary?02:14
brandoni just typed it and it downloaded02:15
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brandoni had ubuntu now i have kubuntu02:15
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having some booting up trouble... I copied everything from my old hard-drive to my new one (2 partitions... linux and swap). Now I can't get the os to load02:15
brandonno freash install02:15
ryanakcaand yes, I've checked that the ribbon cables are in the right place :)02:15
kroisisok, so I've kubuntu running now...is it possible to turn off al this gnome stuff to give me a 'normal' KDE appearance?02:15
NamShubsudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop02:16
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NamShubthen sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:16
crimsunbrandon: right, we don't consider "upgrading" from Ubuntu to Kubuntu a relaese dist-upgrade02:16
ryanakcaI take it that grub/MBR never got transfered over by symantec ghost or something... and also, how do I fix it?02:16
kroisisNamShub, that sounds very strange...I've already installed kubuntu02:17
brandonwow i thought this was supposed to be the easy os02:17
crimsunbrandon: please unmute 'Mix'02:18
crimsunnote that 'Surround' and 'LFE' are still set to 0%02:19
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crimsunyou can try muting 'Master Mono' and 'Master Surround', too02:19
crimsunthis is more difficult because you haven't told me which sound chipset you're using02:19
brandonsb live02:20
crimsunlspci -v ?02:20
crimsunyou should have a toggle that seems to be missing02:21
brandonCreative Labs SB Live! MIDI02:21
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ryanakcawould this work with the knoppix cd? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%2902:23
ryanakcaI dont really feel like downloading a Ubuntu LIVE CD....02:23
crimsunbrandon: you need to pastebin your lspci -v02:23
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brandonis there anyother os that i can use that is more COMPATABLE and easer to use?02:24
ryanakcabrandon: kubuntu and ubuntu work fine... I take it you are new to linux?02:25
crimsunOS X?02:25
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ufothe OS X great02:26
ufois02:26
kroisisARGH!...this gnome stuff is driving me BATTY!02:26
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ryanakcaOSX also isnt free ( to my knowledge ).... unless you consider the OSX86 project...02:26
brandonvery experienced with visual basic c++ ect and windows but not to filmar when it comes to useing linux as a desktop02:26
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kroisisI -just- want to loose gnome all together...please..someone tell me there -IS- a way....02:27
sorush20what files do I need to install to be able to boot my usb camera it used to work I dont' know what has gone worng. kde is not auto detecting it02:27
ryanakcakroisis... are you sure you really want to do that?02:27
ryanakcakroisis: whats wrong with it?02:27
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ryanakcakroisis: give me an example of something you want to get rid of02:27
crimsunbrandon: I can't assist you until I see that lspci -v output...02:28
kroisisryanakca, I am much more used to straight KDE...the menus are pissing me off...02:28
ryanakcakroisis: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?02:28
ryanakcakroisis: if so, "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"02:28
kroisisryanakca, I ran sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop...still there02:29
brodelI just went through a set of instructions on installing java. In there it said do sudo bash. I did that, but I am curious as to what that does. There are other parts in there I don't really understand either.02:29
brandonahhh i dont know..... i think i just go back to windows... lol i understand that and i was happer with that i have gave linux a try for 2 months but i keep running into problems02:30
kroisisbrodel it opens a terminal in bash under root user (or should)02:30
brodeldon't give up man! BOOO windows!02:30
kroisisdon't even THINK abouyt windows, man!02:31
brandonlol02:31
kroisisplease02:31
brandonwhy you ppl no like windows02:31
kroisisI'm begging dude02:31
brandon?02:31
kroisisdude, I'll wash your car once a week (if you live in TN/GA) for a month if you WON'T go back to windows02:32
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ryanakcakroisis: I honestly don't know what you could do... but then... I'm no "expert" when it comes to linux... I can figure stuff out by trial and error if its infront of me... but I don't really know what to do...02:33
brandonlol that would be nice if you lived in missouri lol and my b-day is tomaro ill be 1702:33
kroisishappy bd02:33
brandonthanx02:33
brandontell me something02:33
brandonwhy dont you like windows?02:33
kroisiswhy would you say that? (lol)02:33
brandoniam just wondering02:34
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ryanakcawould this work with the knoppix cd? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%2902:35
kroisisbecause I have seen too much crap happen on windows systems that has resulted in people having to throw good money after bad just to be able to function in a windows environ...I've seen kids go hungry because of windows...02:35
ryanakcaI dont really feel like downloading a Ubuntu LIVE CD....02:35
brandonlike servers or desktop envorments?02:35
callieis there any known way to get shockwave to work under linux ?02:35
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brandonya get firefox02:35
brandonit was easy for me to get it02:36
brandonthru firefox02:36
kroisiscallie no problem02:36
brandonservers i go for linux02:36
calliekroisis, it seems some shockwave stuff doesnt work02:36
ryanakcacallie: I don't think you can get shockwave for linux02:36
brandoni got it02:36
kroisisI've had it02:36
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brandonlol (windows) ;) ?,,,,,,.....????!02:37
brandonor not02:37
calliehttps://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/?action=missingplugins&mimetype=application/x-director&appID={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}&appVersion=2005111116&clientOS=Linux%20i686&chromeLocale=en-US02:37
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ryanakcacallie: you can't get shockwave...02:37
ryanakcacallie: for linux that is...02:37
ryanakcakroisis: at least solaris isn't windows :)02:38
calliethats why i'm asking if there is any way ryanakca, another plugin for example02:38
brandonnow what other that some erros on windows is soo bad i have had pleanty of erros in linux02:38
kroisisryanakca, follow callie's link there02:38
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ryanakcakroisis: I know.... you can't get shockwave for linux, and that link supports my claim :)02:39
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calliejust make sure we're not confusing shockwave with flash here02:39
brandonanyone in this room give me 5 reasons why you dont like windows02:39
callie1 the price02:39
brandonlol02:39
brandonu think i paid for it02:39
brandon?02:39
callieyup02:39
ryanakcabrandon: 2, its not open source02:39
callie3 crappy bundled software02:40
brandoni steel from microsoft every day02:40
callie4 no virus protection as standard02:40
ryanakcayes.... btw... brandon, that claim you just made can get you in deep water...02:40
brandonopen source lol get cracks for the software02:40
kroisismy bad, I was thinking flash02:41
callie5 even solitare sucks on M$02:41
brandonlol bill gates has like 50 billion dollars so i take02:41
ryanakcabrandon, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic02:41
kroisis6 comes with built in virus reception area02:41
ryanakcabrandon, that is, if you want to continue this conversation, if not, nevermind02:41
ryanakcakroisis: lol02:41
brandonokay will u be in there?02:41
kroisis7. wonderful installers can completely change your system for you02:42
callie8 poor theme-a-bilaty02:42
brandonvirus protection just get zonealram trial then find a crack for it then your set02:42
kroisis8 no need to 'mess with' all those hard to read manuals, just look at our easy to follow resigistry, try regedit free! (a $700 value!)02:42
calliebrandon, zone alarm is not included in the windows install, we're talking about windows as it stands02:43
kroisis9 you can use any browser you want...as long as it's ME02:43
Snake__How would I format a USB drive in linux02:43
brandonno i am talking about what it has to offer02:43
Snake__rather kubuntu02:43
brandonso what it doesnt come with stuff02:44
brandonyou can always get it for free02:44
calliedude! you pay all that money and get zip02:44
brandonlol nope02:44
callieyou're a sucker if you think stealing makes a difference02:44
kroisis10 for a limited time only, participate in the windows victimization project where you too can have your OS become completely unsopported after just 5 years!02:44
ryanakcabrandon: open source is much better than closed source because instead of having 50 people working, you can have 2000 people working on it, and each one of them exchanging ideas and progress. things advance much faster. also, you have less chance of bugs, and it ends up being more secure because there isn't a rush to have it done by the date that the CEO set :)02:44
callieyou're jsut supportting them further by even using the OS brandon02:44
ryanakcaSnake__: hmmm... is it mounted?02:45
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Snake__ryanakca: yes02:45
brandonlol find the source for it then use the lanauage for it and make it your own i do it all the time and do you think i payed for visual basic? no lol02:45
Snake__ryanakca: it has stuff on it now, but I wanan get rid of it all02:45
kroisis11. ...and don't forget our FREE customer tracking systems we've installed to see veverything you are doing...Don't bother calling technical support anymore, we know your having a problem before YOU do and WE'll call you102:46
Snake__brb02:46
brandonlisten i never gave a penney for any os or software. oh and customer support is also free u just have to find it like call dell they give free support no matter what02:47
Snake__Back02:47
kroisisplease note: those previous quotes were sponsored in part by MickeySoft, "where do you think You're going today?(TM)"02:47
calliedude if you need to call dell for software support you got some problems02:47
Snake__lol02:47
HymnToLife+1,000 callie02:48
kroisisjust say "to Dell with it" and install linux!02:48
brandoni never had to lol they told my friend that it was free02:48
calliewhatever02:48
callieyou say that now02:48
brandonright.02:48
brandonlol02:48
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Snake__Calm down02:49
callieanyway02:49
brandoni dont get it that is it. that is what all the fuss is about02:49
calliedude, its all about preference02:49
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callieif someone offered you something cool for free would you think they where an asshole brandon ?02:49
Snake__brandon: No one makes you use linux, if you dont use it, go back to satan, callie stop pushin it on em.02:49
brandoncause you have to look for free software and support and dont get anything preinstalled?!02:49
callieSnake__, i dont think i am?02:50
callieSnake__, he asked a question02:50
HymnToLifebrandon> if you want preinstalled things02:50
HymnToLifego for Debian02:50
Snake__callie: Well what the hell are we discussing.02:50
GodricSnake__: you wanted to format a usb flash drive?02:50
HymnToLifeit had 14 CDs of software, that should be enough02:50
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Snake__Godric: correct02:50
brandonno i dont like pre-installed things02:50
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brandonlol02:50
callieSnake__, as far as i'm aware i wasnt discussing anything with you02:50
kroisistalking about my getting rid of gnome02:50
kroisis:)02:50
brandoni was just wondering why ppl hated windows02:51
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Snake__oh well crap brandon ...you asked for it.02:51
brandondont even say money02:51
Snake__sorry callie , carry on.02:51
HymnToLifeI found a funny webstie once (lost the URL though)02:51
robotgeekbrandon: hmm, offtopic maybe. www.microsuck.com02:51
ryanakcaSnake__: here it is: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=42083902:51
kroisisthat question is such troll bait02:51
HymnToLifethe - imaginary - diary of a guy who had used *nix all his life switching to windows02:52
Snake__thanks ryanakca02:52
brandonlol i support linux for their servers but not for desktop02:52
callieSnake__, i dont see why you're picking on me, he asked a question and i answered, i thinks thats how a conversation works02:52
brandonoh and i like free stuff but i like to work for it02:52
ryanakcabrandon, callie: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please02:52
Snake__callie: Thats fine, I didn't see that, and as such I apologized.02:53
callieffs02:53
brandonlol02:53
brandoniam just a cerious person02:53
ryanakcabrandon, callie: this has nothing to do with kubuntu or ubuntu, and is therefor offtopic :)02:53
callieryanakca, chill dude02:53
brandonit kinda is on topic lol02:54
ryanakcado you need to use Ubuntu LIVE CD for this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub    or can you use knoppix02:54
robotgeekcallie: actually, yes. it's gone pretty offtopic02:54
callieI DONT CARE02:54
callieits not my question02:54
brandonlol02:54
ryanakcacallie: Its hard to ask a question when you know its going to go off page within 30 seconds...02:54
brandonwow one word of windows and its a war02:54
calliewould anyoen else like to bash me?02:54
calliecome on02:54
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ryanakcawe're not bashing you...02:55
Earlbquestion... when i apt-get things, it keeps giving me an error message about my cdrom drive. shouldn't apt-get be looking on the internet for packages, not on my cd drive?02:55
callieit feels like it02:55
robotgeekcallie: :)02:55
brandonlol02:55
Snake__Oh boy. robotgeek 's got his guns02:55
ryanakcaLOL02:55
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ryanakcathis might get dangerous02:55
robotgeekmeh02:55
ryanakcaSnake__: it work?02:56
Earlbis it a problem with my sources.list?02:56
Snake__ryanakca: Im figuring out fdisk right now02:56
Snake__:D02:56
calliewell thanks guys02:56
brandonlinux is comming around on desktop envio but i still would like to see it more..devleoped for my type02:56
robotgeekcallie: hmm, don't leave or anything :)02:56
callieright now i dont see any reason to stay02:56
Snake__oh gosh02:57
robotgeekthat's why offtopic talk should stay in offtopic02:57
callierobotgeek, i wasnt the only one02:57
callieSnake__ picked me and everyone else dove in02:58
robotgeekcallie: i did mention brandon also02:58
brandonlol wow02:58
callieand ryanakca ?02:58
robotgeekcallie: i was having connection problems too, i did not catch the whole convo02:58
Snake__callie: I apologized to you alright? I explained that I didnt see him ask the question. I apologize.02:58
Snake__AGAIN02:58
callieSnake__, well try reading next time02:59
Snake__ryanakca: For future refrence, gparted can format it :)02:59
Snake__much easier than fdisk02:59
brandonwell i guess iam going to have to start some windows talk in offtopic02:59
brandonanyone commin? lol02:59
calliebrandon, you'r welcome to, but its just gonna seem like trolling02:59
brandoni should be a lawlar03:00
brandonlol except for spelling03:00
ryanakcaSnake__: aye, I'll look into it :)03:00
callieyeah, forget those dreams of teaching english03:00
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callieso, erm, would anyone else like shockwave support in linux?03:02
calliei was thinking we should all petition macromedia03:02
callieim sure a port would be relatively easy since mac os versions are available and i cant see that being a world away from a linux port03:03
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callieos is this off topic too?03:03
ryanakcacallie: support for whatever in linux is not offtopic :)03:04
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ryanakcacallie: internet petitions aren't usually "legitamit", and have no effect whatsoever.03:05
callieryanakca, i was thinking more about just mailing them directly ryanakca03:05
callieoops03:05
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ryanakcacallie: go 'head... probably won't do anything, but its worth a try :)03:07
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callieryanakca, not on my own it wont03:08
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ryanakcahmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994503:46
ryanakcaanybody^03:49
ryanakca?03:49
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Tom_Kidd!libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.304:19
ubotuTom_Kidd: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:19
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Tom_KiddI thought libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 was suppose to be in the apt package, which I have.. but Kynaptic says I don't :\04:19
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klaushey04:21
klausanyone in here possibly able to help me?04:22
Tom_KiddShoot04:22
klausi've got a sound card prob... how can i set up my sound system thru kunbuntu to work right lol04:22
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klausi have an after market sound card04:22
klausand 5.1 audio04:22
klaushello?04:31
klausi need hlep...04:31
klaushelp*04:31
robotgeek!sound04:31
ubotusound is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary04:31
robotgeekklaus: i'm useless when it comes to sound, sorry04:31
klauslol its kool04:31
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ThedekAnyone here familiar with setting up raid1 from the install cd and willing to explain it to me a bit or tell me where to look? =)04:39
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root404What's wrong with "RewriteRule ^links/(.*)$ links.php?cat=$1"? I want it to go from http://domain.org/links/categoryhere to http://domain.org/links.php?cat=categoryhere.04:43
ryanakcahmmm... I get an error when booting kubuntu: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59383104:44
robotgeekroot404: ask in #apache?04:44
root404robotgeek: No one seems to answer...04:44
robotgeekroot404: hmm, google? this is NOT the right channel04:45
robotgeekunless you are running kubuntu04:45
robotgeekin which case, i would say "I don't know".04:46
root404robotgeek: Lol, I am. But the server isn't on it.04:46
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Tom_Kidd!KDE 3.5.104:56
ubotukde 3.5.1 is probably at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php04:56
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elDeucewhere can i find a tutorial of how to burn/install kubuntu05:03
me2winumm05:04
me2winburning it? not sure, probably just any website on how to burn an .iso05:04
me2win!install05:04
ubotuInstalling Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware05:04
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me2winthat first link05:05
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tedactive?05:35
robotgeeknope05:35
tedthanks...... was getting worried :)05:35
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frank23I want to change my home directory location,   will  sudo cp -R /home /newlocation   work? then I change the mount point for /home05:40
nirmalnew2irc  hi everybody05:41
tedhi05:42
beefsprocketnirmal: channel is sort of dead tonight05:42
nirmaloh05:42
beefsprocketjust don't take a frosty silence personally :)05:42
tedkinda late05:42
nirmaloh ok05:43
nirmalbeefsproket : hi05:43
beefsprocketnirmal: 'allo  there05:44
nirmalhello05:44
nirmali am from India05:44
beefsprocketcanada here05:44
tedusa here05:44
nirmaloh glad to meet you05:44
beefsprocketindeed05:44
tedyes05:44
nirmalhi ted nice meeting you05:44
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tedsame here mirmal05:45
beefsprocketwhat brings you to the lovely kubuntu irc channel?05:45
nirmali am experimenting with all flavours of linux05:45
tedthe quest for knowledge05:45
beefsprocketexcellent05:45
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beefsprocketwhich have you tried/investigated?05:46
nirmalwhen i installed UBUNTU recently05:46
nirmalalso05:46
nirmalread about kubuntu recently05:46
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tedjust loaded it today..... checking it out05:47
nirmalbut didnot get chance to install05:47
nirmaloh ok05:47
beefsprocketnirmal: do you have ubuntu installed still?05:47
nirmalwhat is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu plz05:47
nirmalno right now i am on kanotix 6405:48
nirmalon my new machine05:48
beefsprocketthe desktop and window manager and associated apps05:48
callieUbuntu is Gnome based and Kubuntu is KDE05:48
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beefsprocketnirmal: callie summed it up there05:48
nirmaloh ok05:48
nirmalthank you callie05:48
callienp05:49
beefsprocketnirmal: from ubuntu you can install kubuntu with one simple command05:49
beefsprocketor vice versa05:49
nirmalwhat is the size of the distro?05:49
nirmal650 Mb?05:49
beefsprocketsounds about right05:49
tedfits on one cd05:49
nirmalone more doubt as i am new to linux05:51
nirmalcan i install any source on any linux and ./configure , make and makeinstall will work?05:52
tedi know how you feel05:52
nirmala day was there when i started with single floppy for busybox and started learning05:53
E-Traini have dma enabled on my dvd drives but dvd playback is still choppy any tips??05:53
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jbeagleyUm, I just tried uninstalling ALSA, so why did it try to uninstall a shitload of other stuff?05:53
crimsunbecause ALSA is the default sound subsystem in K/Ubuntu, so naturally removing it will remove lots of other packages that depend on it05:54
jbeagleyIs ALSA really necessary for Konqueror?05:55
crimsunwhy yes05:55
jbeagleyArg.05:55
crimsunas konqueror depends on kdelibs, which depends on arts, which depends on ALSA05:55
E-Traini have dma enabled on my dvd drives but dvd playback is still choppy any tips??05:55
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nirmalted: hi05:56
crimsunE-Train: is your graphics driver accelerated?05:56
jbeagleyNow if only I knew exactly which packages were uninstalled so I could reinstall them.05:56
tedhello nirmal05:56
nirmalhow r u05:56
nirmali am from India05:57
tedvery tired05:57
tedgoing to go to bed05:57
nirmaloh ok take rest05:57
tedgood night05:57
nirmalbye , good night05:57
jbeagleyIs there a log for adept so I can find out what was uninstalled?05:58
E-Traincrimsun - i have an nvidia Geforce 3 and the nvidia drivers installed thats it. what do you mean by accelarated?05:58
crimsunE-Train: make sure your dvd player is using xv output, then05:59
nirmalbeefsproket can you tell me how to install kubuntu and the command plz?05:59
E-Traincrimsun - where do i do that06:00
E-Trainin the software player or somewhere else06:01
E-Train??06:04
E-Traincrimsun - i see the setting in totem but i dont know what to do with it06:06
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E-TrainI mean i dont see06:06
crimsunE-Train: totem should use xv by default06:07
crimsunsometimes you get better performance, depending on your graphics driver's capabilities, by using x11 or gl2 instead of xv06:07
crimsunfor instance, in mplayer you can set the default video output method06:07
E-Trainok ill mess with it06:08
beefsprocketnirmal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:09
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nirmalonce i booted with live kubuntu cd then in the terminal i should issue that command?06:15
beefsprocketnirmal: sorry, no. once you have booted your installed ubuntu system06:16
nirmaloh ok i got it thanks06:17
beefsprocketgood06:19
beefsprocketenjoy06:19
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beefsprocketyou'll have to select kde from the gdm menu once you install and restart -- it will look like ubuntu until you login06:19
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nirmalgreetings !! ahmed06:20
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treakathis there any uthere site to download fedora from besides fedora.redhat.org06:22
treakath?06:22
nirmalyou can from distrowatch.com06:23
nirmalwhat ever flavour you want in LINUX :) enjoy06:23
Dasnipa`linux is like alcohol... some distros are hard, and some are girlie with lots of overhead... your probably best with a nice vodka or gin06:27
Arcanimusgood night all06:28
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nirmalyou can choose according to your hardware and requirement the right Linux i hope06:30
treakathi dont want download for cds of fedora06:32
Dasnipa`i dont think you need all cds06:33
Dasnipa`maybe like first 306:33
Dasnipa`or 206:33
Dasnipa`but i think 306:33
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treakathany1 here from new zealand???06:35
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treakath???06:39
treakathi only wanta use one06:44
treakathcd06:44
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treakathdasnipa whats a good linux06:45
treakathimuseing kubntu06:45
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treakathim useing kubuntu06:46
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Dasnipa`treakath, well kubuntu is what i myself use... but it all depends what you need to do with it06:46
Dasnipa`there is no distinct 'best' but there are highs and lows06:46
treakathgames that my mouse will not go haywia06:47
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Dasnipa`waywire?06:48
Dasnipa`haywire*06:48
Dasnipa`well i dont really have a distinct answer for that... i play games just fine within ubuntu06:48
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treakathgose al stupid06:49
Dasnipa`probably has to do with either your computer itself or the driver you are using for it06:49
Dasnipa`i doubt its the distros fault06:49
treakathno its new06:50
Ex-CyberI seem to have "lost" my left audio channel in kubuntu 5.10 (only in kubuntu, other OSes are fine) ... what should I look at to get it playing again?06:50
kalenedraelOpen up a terminal and type 'alsamixer', set your volume properly...06:50
treakathdasnipa are you on amsn???06:51
Dasnipa`treakath, then it is the driver that you are using06:51
Ex-Cyberkalenedrael: alsamixer doesn't show separate left and right channel controls06:51
Dasnipa`amsn?06:51
treakathmsn06:51
kalenedraelEx-Cyber, it does, they're in the same bar.06:51
treakathmsn messnger06:52
Ex-Cyberoh, heh06:52
Dasnipa`treakath, yes...06:52
kalenedrael'Master' should show one bar, in which there are two halves.06:52
treakathyou want my add06:52
treakathor you can give me yours06:53
Ex-Cyberhard to see the two halves when one is blank, heh06:53
Dasnipa`sure... gregdude20@hotmail.com06:53
Ex-Cyberand there's only one label for both channels06:53
nirmaldasnipa can you tell me when i tried to install ubuntu 5.10 and  64bit it stalled and said the base kernell install is not done  can you help me pls06:53
kalenedraelEx-Cyber, yeah.06:53
treakathantonne_de_graaf@hotmail.com06:53
Ex-Cyberfor some reason it was just muted in PCM, not master... but AFAIK there's not actually any synth functions in this chip so I'd probably never find a difference06:54
kalenedraelEverything uses PCM. :P06:54
Ex-Cyberkalenedrael: thanks06:55
kalenedraelYep, no problem.06:55
nirmali have assembled 64bit machine with intel mobo and em64T06:56
Ex-CyberI actually looked at alsamixer before I even came in here but didn't see anything wrong so I thought arts might have taken a dump or something (I've had it do weird things to me seemingly at random before)06:56
kalenedraelI think the 64-bit version is only for AMD64s...06:56
kalenedraelI hate artsd. I usually kill it first thing, before I start anything that wants to play sound.06:57
Ex-CyberAMD64 is the name of the instruction set extension06:57
Ex-CyberEM64T is Intel's implementation of AMD64; of course they won't use the term "AMD64" for political/marketing reasons06:57
kalenedraelYeah, it is.06:58
kalenedraelI dunno, perhaps I'm confused. I thought there was a difference.06:58
kalenedraelMaybe that was IA64 vs AMD64.06:58
Ex-Cyberthey're not 100% identical06:58
Ex-CyberI think there are differences in addressing limitations06:59
Ex-Cyberbut basically only stuff you should worry about if you're a kernel hacker06:59
nirmalwhats up06:59
kalenedraelYeah, since a kernel that works for one might not work for the other...07:00
Ex-Cybernirmal: what filesystem did you use for /boot?07:00
nirmali have used Ext2..07:00
Ex-Cyberokay... I learned the hard way that dpkg likes to barf when faced with the prospect of installing to certain weird filesystems ;)07:02
Ex-Cyberso I just wanted to make sure that wasn't the problem07:02
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frank23I want to upgrade libglib2.0  to debian unstable in order to install the latest mono (from unstable) can I expect any problems doing this? running breezy07:03
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ronaldson40does Kubuntu support Joilet ISO966008:13
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Mars^Hi i have a question. Can i set the password for a one directory?08:15
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m5mI'm having trouble getting Kubuntu to mount my firewire compact flash card reader; I can't recall if I've done it successfully before since I switched from gnome to kde.... it's not showing up when I mount... any ideas?08:53
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m5mfirewire cable secure: check, type 'mount' at command prompt: nothing showing under /media, light on card reader on: check, sudo mount -a; mount|grep media... still nothing.  How can I encourage it to query the firewire channel or interface???08:55
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maenty_any good IDE with compiler for c++ and java for Kopete?09:11
robotgeekmaenty_: that doesn't make any sense09:12
maenty_robotgeek: In Windows XP I used to have Bloodshed Dev-c++ for c++ and Eclipse for Java09:13
robotgeekmaenty_: you can use kdevelop09:13
maenty_robotgeek: However, I'm trying to find similar programs for Linux09:13
maenty_robotgeek: thanks09:13
robotgeekmaenty_: and eclipse is available for linux too09:13
Kamping_Kaiserkdevelop is good IIRC (not used it in a while)09:13
maenty_what means "IIRC" ?09:14
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Kamping_Kaiserif i remember correctly09:14
maenty_roger that09:15
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maenty_Do I need to download some special java RE to use Eclipse ?09:24
maenty_It seems I have some java-gcj-compat installed..09:24
maenty_"Java runtime environment using GIJ"09:25
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Kamping_Kaiseri expect you will. i don't know for sure09:26
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Kingpombamy torrents done but i don't have any blank media...09:28
Kingpombaguess ill have to wait till tommrow09:28
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Kamping_Kaiserlol09:30
raveneyelater i hope....09:31
weedarAh, finally. My computer was so noisy I started up another computer I have - it totally drowns it out09:32
weedar..and that was the last we ever heard from raveneye09:33
Kamping_Kaiser<grin>09:33
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raveneyewhee 3.5.1 ... yeah... suckittome suckittome party party party steeerike.09:34
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raveneyeeverything seems to work.... even the stuff that did not work before... (it still does not work) ah crap.09:39
weedarwhat didn't work before raveneye ?09:39
raveneyegetting thunderbird to open firefox when clicking on a link...09:40
Hobbsee!thunderbird09:40
ubotufrom memory, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042709:40
Hobbseeraveneye: seen this?  ^09:40
raveneye^ ?09:41
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robotgeekHobbsee: can you do some testing for me?09:41
Hobbseerobotgeek: after dinner?09:42
robotgeekHobbsee: sure, just bookmark the link? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994609:42
Hobbsee_awaybesides, compiling something on my machine at the moment...09:43
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weedarThat is _the_ quintessential linux excuse09:44
Hobbsee_awayhehe09:44
Hobbsee_awaytrue, it's not like i'm compiling koffice again09:44
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divansantanaHello everyone!! Was wondering if we can get OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 into Breezy yet? Via which repository, automatix etc! Anyone know yet??09:46
robotgeek!automatix09:47
ubotufrom memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.09:47
divansantanawhat about OOo2.0.2? Apparently its a nice upgrade for KDE linux etc...09:48
robotgeekdivansantana: http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/09:48
divansantanado I add that to sources.list ? How? Thanks!09:49
robotgeekdivansantana: wait09:49
robotgeek!easysource09:49
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:49
raveneyethnx ubotu that did the trick been googleing for quite a while and tried "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and kdesu kcontrol but that dit nothing... glad it works now...09:49
divansantanawill give that a try and hopefully wil get it done! Thanks ubuntu!09:50
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robotgeekdivansantana: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./09:50
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r1msk1jhi09:50
Kingpomba!BurningISO09:50
ubotuKingpomba: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:50
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Kingpombaaww09:51
robotgeekKingpomba: just use k3b :)09:51
Kingpombadoes it work on winblows09:51
robotgeekKingpomba: hmm, one moment09:52
divansantanarobotgeek: that looks like OOo 2.0.1 not 2.0.2 or am I wrong?09:52
robotgeekubotu: tell Kingpomba about burniso09:52
Kingpombaoh thanks09:53
robotgeekdivansantana: that's as far as you will go on breezy09:53
divansantananot 2.0.2? howcome?09:53
Kingpombait's hoary->breezy->Drapper right ,in ascending order09:54
robotgeekdapper, yes09:54
Kingpombaerr right09:55
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Kingpombathe dvd version is live and install right?09:55
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ildehola a todos09:57
maentyHi, all09:58
maentywas there some issue with Java and amd64?09:58
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maentyI'm planning ton install Eclipse for Jave IDE, do I need to install some special java RE also?09:59
robotgeekmaenty: hmm, i think it might be a bad idea, with the java on amd64 "sucking"09:59
maentyhow it's "sucking" ?09:59
robotgeekmaenty: 1.4.2, and i think it's blackdown java10:00
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maentyrobotgeek: that one is sucking, you mean?10:02
robotgeekmaenty: yes10:04
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maentyrobotgeek: I'll install sun java10:21
robotgeekmaenty: how? chroot?10:21
maentyrobotgeek: 64-bit version manually10:22
robotgeekmaenty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 ah10:22
maentyrobotgeek: from java.sun.com10:22
robotgeekmaenty: that will create nice debs for you to install10:22
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Kingpombawill gnome programs work on KDE10:24
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robotgeekKingpomba: sure10:26
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Kingpombacool10:26
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Tonio_hello10:30
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maentyia64 = amd64?10:34
maentythere seems to be 2 versions of eclipse, x86_64 and ia6410:34
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maentyDoes anyone know whether IA64 means amd64 ?10:35
maentyJust wondering which version to download from here: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1.2-200601181600/index.php10:36
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maentywhat exactly should I do with a file .bin ? I installed java and it is .bin-file,10:38
djclue917maenty: IA-64 is the architecture of Intel's (purely) 64-bit processors10:38
maentyI mean downloaded it..10:38
maentyso what's the difference between IA64 and x86_64? If I have amd64-processor, I should then take x86_64?10:39
Kamping_Kaiseryeh10:39
maentyok, thanks10:39
djclue917maenty: x86_64 is the same as AMD64 and EM64T10:39
Kamping_Kaiserx86_64 is 32bit cpus, made 64 bit (or 16 bit cpus made 64 bit ;D)10:39
Kamping_KaiserIA64 is a new architecture10:39
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maentyok10:40
maentyhow about that .bin file? I tried to start it with ./file.bin, and also doubleclicked it but no effect10:41
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maentyit's java 1-50 and I should install it.10:41
djclue917maenty: what *.bin file?10:43
djclue917maenty: you have to make it first executable: chmod +x file.bin10:43
maentyyes I made it10:44
maentybut it didn't work10:44
maentyjdk-1_5_0_06-linux-amd64.bin.bin is the filename10:44
maentyjust downloaded it from sun.java.com10:44
maentyit has executerights for all10:45
robotgeekmaenty: see the instructions on the wiki page, it will ease a lot of pain, seriously10:45
maentyit says: bash: ./jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-amd64.bin.bin: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied10:45
Hobbseestick sudo in front of it?10:46
Hobbseebut why do you have .bin.bin?  why not just one .bin?10:46
djclue917maenty, you could just use the java-package package to create a DEB file out of that installer10:47
maentyrobotgeek: I couldn't find .bin installation instructions in the wiki10:48
maentyHobbsee: I don't know, it was .bin.bin immediately after downloading it.. I was wondering that .bin.bin myself too10:48
robotgeekmaenty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 method 210:48
Hobbseehmmm weird10:48
maentythanks robotgeek10:49
maentyis that fakeroot a command or should i tpe something else at that point ?10:50
robotgeekmaenty: please read the whole article, you have to install fakeroot10:50
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djclue917you don't actually need fakeroot to make the deb file out of the java package10:51
finite9Hope someone can help...i upgraded to 3.5.1 and now, I cannot logout of KDE without getting a black screen - login screen does not re-appear and eventually after many CTRL-ALT-ESC/[Backspace]  etc, the laptop reboots.  Any suggestions?10:51
djclue917you could just use sudo. but since you don't really need root privileges, just use fakeroot10:51
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djclue917finite9: are you sure you upgraded the whole KDE to 3.5.1? maybe some packages were not upgraded or were broken10:52
Kamping_Kaiseris that 'shut down' log out, or is that 'i want to change user' logout?10:52
Hobbseefinite9: tried running sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart?10:53
finite9Kamping_Kaiser: its logout - shutdown and reboot work fine, as does CTRL-ALT-Backspace, but normal logout just results in a black screen10:53
Kamping_Kaisercheck your install like djclue917 sugested10:54
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee:  what KDE does dapper run?10:54
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: 3.5.110:54
Kamping_Kaiserok10:54
Hobbsee3.5.2 will be in a separate repo, when it comes out, i think10:54
finite9djclue917: not entirely sure its kde, just suspicion - I added the repo from Kubuntus homepage and then did an upgrade in Synaptic, so I assume that it all went fine10:54
djclue917oh...10:55
maentydamn.. making the .deb didnt work10:55
Kamping_Kaiserwhat does KDE use for it's out/login backend? could it be loging out and failing to restart the sesion?10:55
maentysh: gcc: command not found10:55
maentydpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)10:55
djclue917finite9: did you already tried sudo apt-get install -f?10:55
finite9Hobbsee: no i havent - will try it out later10:55
djclue917maenty: i think you need gcc..10:56
djclue917maenty: you could try sudo apt-get install build-essential10:56
maentystrange if gcc is not installed in kubuntu as default10:56
djclue917maenty: yeah the build tools are not really installed by default10:57
maentydjclue917: that build-essential will install gcc and some other essential tools?10:57
djclue917maenty: yes10:57
djclue917maenty: gcc-4.0 specifically10:57
maentydjclue917: I'll do that, thanks10:58
finite9djclue917: when i upgrade kubuntu breezy to kde 3.5.1, i just added the repository link available on Kubuntu homepage, then when I did an update in Adept/Synaptic, it showed that the KDE packages could be upgraded, so I just upgraded every package that was upgradable.  I have the universe repo as well as standard repo--I dont have any other repos enabled10:58
djclue917finite9: did you added Jonathan Riddell's key as well?10:59
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djclue917finite9: i don't really know if those KDE packages were all upgraded because I don't use synaptic very often.10:59
maentystill problem.. "No matching plugin was found."11:00
finite9djclue917: yeah, I had to do that as part of something else when I first installed - ive following so many wiki guides on Ubuntu webpage ive forgotten everything ive done11:00
maentybefore that: "Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh"11:00
finite9could it be due to some theme or window decoration I have installed or a screen saver?  Ive been really messing with my theme lately.11:00
maentyI guess there is no plugin for java-1.5.0-0611:01
djclue917maenty: that's strange... are you sure that your java package isn't corrupted?11:01
maentydjclue917: it should be ok. just downloaded it with firefox, a moment ago11:02
maentydjclue917: however, there is strange .bin.bin extenstion11:02
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finite9got disconnected :(11:03
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djclue917maenty: rename the file so that it would have only one .bin extension11:05
djclue917maenty: then try it again11:05
maentyok11:06
maentyworks11:07
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finite9does anyone know where I can download a system monitoring tool - real-time??  I keep seeing screenshots with these desktop transparent windows where they have real-time CPU mointor/disk activity monitor/net monitor, plus system info like kernel ver. and kde build.11:29
finite9i went over to kde-looks.org to get some icons/themes, and thats where I saw the monitors, but I cannot find any that resemble them on kde-apps11:30
djclue917finite9: i think you're talking about the SuperKaramba themes11:31
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cA1mAnhello, i wanted to try the kubuntu breezy live-cd but what is the login/password (s)? thanks11:44
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cafeclop|kayBonjour11:45
cA1mAni mean the default one11:45
cA1mAnwhich i was prompted to ener11:46
cA1mAnenter11:46
cafeclop|kayI got little problem11:46
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cA1mAnhmm... anyone? please just tell me the default password for a demo :-)11:47
finite9djclue917: do you only get it if you install that theme?  ok - ill search for it.  thanks!11:47
cafeclop|kayWhen I try to configure my wifi by settings:/system it ask for the root pass if I want to change something. I give my user pass, don't work, I give my root pass (after making sudo passwd root), don't work... I tryed sudo konqueror, then launch the, conf, don't work...11:48
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cA1mAn hello, can anybody help me with the KUbuntu Live-CD: I want to test kubuntu so i burned it and booted it - with no problems. However, I can NOT access to my (windows-) folders like i could with knoppix... what is to do?12:27
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stonedhi12:28
stonedi dunno if anyone cares12:28
stonedhttp://bungs.dontexist.com/adblock.txt <-- a very comprehensive adblock list for konqueror12:28
RiddellTonio_: ^^12:28
Riddellstoned: what's the copyright?12:28
stonedi just put it together12:28
stonedits hosted on myip12:28
stonedif you look12:28
Tonio_yep12:28
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Tonio_stoned: very nice I must say12:29
stonedthanks12:29
stonedjust trying to do my part12:29
stonedi got sick of firefox eating up ram and resources12:29
Tonio_stoned: the problem is that it is very static...12:29
stonedand the rendering eingine is so slow12:29
stonedTonio_, well you can't have regex in adblock12:29
stonedthats the kde dev team12:30
Tonio_can that really compare to one of those  with regexp ?12:30
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stonedTonio_, sure it can12:30
Tonio_stoned: yes, I build an ablock filters list with rexexp12:30
Tonio_regexp12:30
stonedTonio_, in konqueror?12:30
Tonio_stoned: yes12:30
stonedyou can't use anything but wildcard regex in konq.12:30
Tonio_latest settings package adds a defualt konqueror config with a set of adblock filters12:31
Tonio_maybe merging your with the regexp I've add is a good thing :)12:31
stonedim using kde3.5 on debian sid12:31
Tonio_stoned let me test yours;)12:31
cA1mAnNeed some help, please: How can Iaccess to my (windows-) folders in Kubuntu live-CD? (to play music for example)12:32
Tonio_stoned: first test with your list : http://planetemu.net/12:33
Tonio_my personnal website, and the ad is still there.12:33
Tonio_due to the fct I'm using a french service12:33
Tonio_stoned: well I may have a look more carefully and merge our lists maybe ;)12:34
stonedadv.surinter.net12:34
stonedjust add that to the file12:34
stonedmay I see yours?12:34
killiandoes anyone have the original kubuntu 6.04 sources.list file?12:34
Tonio_stoned sure12:34
Tonio_let me sho you12:34
Tonio_show12:34
stonedkilliaan google for source-o-matic and generate one12:34
killianthe thing is i need the cd again as a source for the repos12:35
killiani played with the sources.list files and lost the cd as a source for repos12:35
stonedgo to #ubuntu and ask them how to add a cdrom to the apt sources lit12:35
stonedor you can just use apt-setup12:35
stonedand add a cdrom repos12:35
killianand when i try to install something, it says BROKEN12:35
killianok12:35
killianthx12:35
Tonio_stoned: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/adblock.txt12:36
stonedwell if konq can use reged12:36
stonedregex12:36
Hobbseekillian: sudo apt-cdrom add12:36
Tonio_stoned, I tried to find the best compromiss between full static and heavy regexp12:36
Tonio_stoned: sure it does ;)12:36
stonedthen simply use the piercieve filterlist.G for firefox adblock12:37
killianok12:37
stonedhttp://www.pierceive.com/filtersetg/2006-03-08a.txt12:37
cA1mAnif not here, where should i ask my question then? thanks12:37
Tonio_stoned: the pierceive one isn't gpl12:37
stonedso who gives a fuck12:37
Tonio_so we cannot redistribute it freely12:37
stonedyou just gonna use it right12:37
stonedor are yo planing on redistributing12:37
Tonio_this is the reason I rebuilt another one12:37
stonedoh ok12:38
stonedyeah12:38
Hobbseestoned: language, please12:38
stonedhow can i make konq. have regex in adblock12:38
stonedsorry12:38
Tonio_stoned, it'll be added by default on dapper's konq12:38
stonedit slipped out12:38
Tonio_so that's redistribution :)12:38
stonedi dont' use ubuntu man12:38
Tonio_stoned: dunno, it always worked for me12:38
stonedi gave it a shot, don't like it12:38
stoneduse debian sid instead myself12:38
Tonio_hum......12:38
Tonio_dunno why it doesn't work for you12:39
stonedplenty of reasons12:39
Tonio_there is not specific kde compilation option for this12:39
stonedsudo == evil12:39
stonedfirst pet peeve12:39
Tonio_stoned: can be removed12:39
stonedcourse it can12:39
stonedsecondly, its too much dumbed down12:39
Tonio_and well, sudo isn't evil in my view12:39
stonedthirdly, #ubuntu has a mere few competent people12:40
Tonio_second reason is indeed a good one, but it is greatly improved in dapper12:40
cA1mAnNeed some help, please: How can Iaccess to my (windows-) folders in Kubuntu live-CD? (to play music for example)12:40
stonedfourthly, I am quite advanced for the distro made for human beings12:40
Tonio_breezy's kubuntu cannot be considered "mature"12:40
stonedbut seriously12:40
stonedwho else is gonna use linux12:40
stonedeels?12:40
stonedcourse humnans are gonna use the damn thing12:40
Tonio_stoned: that's tipically the "l33t" speaking I can't stand12:40
stonedretarded choice of a name imo12:41
Tonio_arguying "I need something more complex"12:41
stonedits not that I need something more complex12:41
stonedI'm used to debian sid12:41
stonedyears upon years12:41
stonedI gave ubuntu a shot, didn't like it12:41
Tonio_you can custom any linux, even mandriva, to use it with shell, emacs, and all geek stuff if you want ;)12:41
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Tonio_beeing used is a point of view12:41
stonedI also don't like the packaging structure12:41
stonedwell of course its my point of view12:41
stonedim the one using it12:42
stonedheh12:42
Tonio_saying "I'm too advanced or those desktop based distros" is....12:42
stonedI am12:42
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stonedi can't dig it12:42
Tonio_well, pretentious12:42
stonednot necesserily12:42
stonedits a matter of preference12:42
stonedI don't jerk off to the fact that I use linux instead of microsoft or that i use unstable instead of stable, its a pc, which needs to do my work for me, simple as that12:43
Tonio_stoned, I can use a slackware to build an opendlap directory manually, all redundant, using clustering with dbrd and heartbeat12:43
killianany ideas why i get BREAK (install) when i try to install a package with adept?12:43
Tonio_I don't, really don't have the feeling of beeing "to advance for those 'normal people' based distros"12:43
Tonio_but well, that's your point of view....12:44
stonedyou totally missed my point12:44
stonedi dn't have the energy to go into it again12:44
Tonio_I'm reading ;)12:44
cA1mAnwhy don't you help a newbie? :-( How can Iaccess to my (windows-) folders in Kubuntu live-CD? (to play music for example)12:44
Kamping_KaiserTonio_: open up a terminal and type `sudo apt-get -f install` and see if that fixes you up12:44
Tonio_Kamping_Kaiser: ???? where did I say I was needing a fix? :)12:45
stonedcA1mAn, you need to create a mount point, and mount the ntfs volumes, given kubuntu live cd ships with a stock ntfs kernel module12:45
Kamping_KaiserTonio_: sorry12:45
Kamping_Kaiseri was refering to something up there ^12:45
Kamping_Kaiserkillian: to be exact :$12:45
Tonio_stoned: well "its a pc, which needs to do my work for me" -> does it reguarding to regexp ? nope12:45
cA1mAnstoned, thanks, will try to google that12:46
Tonio_stoned: and as a "too advanced user for desktop linux", you are de facto able to resolv your problem by yourself12:46
Tonio_IMO12:46
stonedman12:46
stonedyou're still going on about it12:46
stoned*sigh*12:46
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Tonio_hehe, I love those "nobody will change is point of view" debates ;)12:47
killianthe problem i cannot solve right now is UNMET DEPENDENCIES12:47
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killianshould i add more repos?12:47
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stonedkillian12:47
stonedlisten to me sir12:47
killianok12:47
stonedplease go to this website12:47
stonedhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:47
Hobbsee!repos12:48
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:48
Hobbseefar easier12:48
stonedchose the repositories that you want, one or all12:48
killiangreat, i'll try that12:48
stonedthen save it somewhere12:48
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stonedthen simply sudo cp source-o-matic(or the filename you save as) /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
stonedthen sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:49
stonedthat should hopefuly fix any broken crap from here and there12:49
killiani'm using kubuntu, not ubunt12:49
killiani'm using kubuntu, not ubuntu12:49
stonedonly chose the repositories that you want12:49
killiani hope it doesnt matter12:49
stonedkubutnu == ubuntu with kde12:49
Kamping_Kaiserit doesnt12:49
killianok12:49
Hobbseestoned: well, kubuntu = ubuntu with kde, but without gnome12:50
stonedessentially ubuntu is ubuntu without gnome12:51
killianyep, i know12:51
killianit seems to me kde is better than gnome12:51
stonedits not a matter ofbetter/worse12:51
stonedits only preference12:51
stoneda very relative matter, otherwise known as potential desktop war12:52
stonedtry to avoid12:52
killiancorect12:52
Hobbseehehe12:52
stonedoh my god12:53
stonedi wish food tasted this good12:53
stonedthis weed tastes like berries and fruit punch and it smells awesome and it packs a mighty punch12:54
stonedanyway12:54
avuuh, /me gets weedgreed12:54
stonedhow do I get konqueror to do adblock with regexp not just wildcard regexp12:54
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killianadept complains about MIME TYPES? is that important?01:00
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killianweather01:08
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killiani've got i problem! i cannot write cds at all with kubuntu01:12
killiani'm using 6.04 development branch01:13
Hobbseeuse k3b?01:13
killianyes01:13
killianit complained about missing cdrdao01:13
killiani copied it from a fedora install, since the .deb package failed to download/install01:13
Hobbsee!+info cdrdao01:14
ubotucdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 373 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB01:14
Hobbsee!+info cdrdao dapper01:14
ubotucdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.2.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 390 kB, Installed size: 1048 kB01:14
Hobbseeit should be in the ubuntu repos, then01:14
killianthe thing is, cdrdao was listed by adept01:14
killianbut wouldnt install01:14
killiananyway01:15
killiani cant write cds01:15
killianand i dont know how to solve this01:15
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killiani rebuild k3b from sources01:15
killianit still doesnt write01:15
killianin fact, i downloaded many linux cd writing apps01:16
killiannone work01:16
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Tonio_killian: sudo dpkg --purge cdrdao && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cdrdao01:19
Tonio_killian: and be sure not to use external repos would could put a mess01:20
Tonio_I use dapper too, works nice here01:20
killianthx, i'll try that01:20
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maentyhow can I set shell-window so that just by marking it will copy01:21
maentyso I don't have to right click and choose "copy"01:22
visik7is there something like gtk style and fonts for gtk1 ?01:23
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jindstoned: I care about adblocking in konqueror01:37
jindBut do I need a special plugin to use the list?01:37
Hobbseejind: i think it's there by default - check the configure section01:40
jindIt isn't there. I'll google it :-)01:41
Hobbseejind: settings, configure konq, adblock filters, enable,01:43
Hobbseeimport button, import the file01:43
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jindI unfortunately don't have that option01:46
killianif my dvd writer isn't supported by cdrdao and i cant write cds/dvds, is it because my drive is unsupported by cdrdao?01:47
killiannone of cdrdao's frontends, like k3b, work01:47
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visik7killian: and cdrecord works ?01:49
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killianthe thing is, i cant write cds/dvd01:49
killiani cant install cdrdao01:49
killiani copied the executable cdrdao from a fedora install01:49
killianUnpacking cdrdao (from .../cdrdao_1%3a1.1.9-3ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...01:50
killiandpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cdrdao_1%3a1.1.9-3ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):01:50
killian trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/cue2toc', which is also in package cue2toc01:50
killiandpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)01:50
killianErrors were encountered while processing:01:50
killian /var/cache/apt/archives/cdrdao_1%3a1.1.9-3ubuntu3_i386.deb01:50
killianE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:50
killianthat is the log of apt when i try to install cdrdao01:50
killiani dont know what the problem is01:51
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jindkillian:  You should never use another distros package. Instead, either install from source or better, find apt-get sources for cdrdao and install from apt-get01:55
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KabalHi all :)01:59
KabalCan somebody help me with ksysguard?01:59
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Kaballot of people.. doing nothing here?02:02
crimsunasking a specific question concisely always helps.02:02
Kabaloke.. I did did I?02:03
Kabalbut nm02:03
Kabalask somewhere else02:04
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dipnlikKabal: maybe if you say what is your problem, someone can help you :)02:11
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KabalI run with Kubuntu 5.10 for some time now.. and I've added Ksysguard to my bar next to the clock.02:16
Kabaleverything great.. even added to monitors for eth0 and eth102:16
KabalBut this morning I've done some key combo.. and I had to restart my pc.02:16
Kabalafter restart... ksysguard gave me an error.02:16
Kabalnow all four monitors are completly black..02:16
KabalI've removed all monitors.. and when I add a monitor and drag a CPU0/User Load (for example) It asks Connect to host..02:16
KabalCan't seem to get it back as original.. :(02:17
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JohnFluxKabal: do File->Load standard hosts02:19
JohnFluxstandard sheets rather02:19
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KabalOk I did.. Then when I drag a option to the bar it will ask what type I want.. I choose Signal Plotter.02:22
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JohnFluxKabal: go back.  When you load the standard sheets, does it all work?02:23
KabalThe a new screen comes up.. asking Coonect to Host.. but what I do.. nothing will help to get my monitors back...02:23
JohnFluxKabal: when you load the standard sheets, you should have the 4 monitors in one tab, and a process list in the other02:24
JohnFluxKabal: does that happen?02:24
Kabalyes02:24
JohnFluxKabal: and do they work?02:24
JohnFluxare you seeing the information02:24
Kabalyou mean the systemload tab?02:25
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Kabalall 4 monitors in KDE System Guard works..02:26
tristan_Hello, when I use the list display in Konqueror, the files are written in green. How can I change this color to another?02:26
JohnFluxKabal: okay good02:27
Kabalbut when I drag a integer value to the little monitors beneith in my taksbar.,, it asks for a connection to host02:27
JohnFluxKabal: now what are you doing? draging CPU0/User Load  into one of the existing monitors?02:27
JohnFluxKabal: or making a new tab?02:27
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kimowill ubuntu make my ipw2200 WLAN card work automagically ?02:28
Kaballook when I added for the fist time the ksysguard applet in my taksbar.. I got 2 little monitors.. I've made 2 more extra.. so I've got 4 now.02:29
Kabalbut all of them won't work anymore..02:29
JohnFluxright so I'm trying to take you back to the basics02:29
JohnFluxto see where it breaks02:29
Kabaloke :)02:30
JohnFluxI can't seem to replicate it :/02:31
KabalWhen I add a Integer Value.. It asks for a connection type.. I think that's for remote stuff.. but how do I connect a value to local02:31
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JohnFluxKabal: if you do "ifconfig"  does lo have the ip 127.0.0.1 ?02:32
Kabalyes it does.. :)02:33
JohnFluxKabal: hmm02:33
KabalI think a file is damaged maybe?02:33
JohnFluxKabal: I don't really know.  I did fix a load of bugs in that area02:33
Kabalcould that happen?02:33
JohnFlux(I'm the maintainer)02:33
JohnFlux;-)02:34
Kabalnais :)02:34
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Kabalgreat work then JohnFlux02:34
Kabalhaha02:34
Kabaljk :)02:34
JohnFlux:-P02:34
JohnFluxI'm working hard on it though ;)02:34
Kabalbut for real.. this morning it all worked like a charm02:34
JohnFluxhmm02:35
KabalI got CPU MEM ETH0 ETH102:35
Kabal3 values per monitor.02:35
Kabalsome even 402:35
Kabalreally nice to have "when it works" hehe02:36
Kabalthere is no easy way to reinstall ksysguard? When I try.. whole KDE will be uninstalled. :S02:36
Kabal\02:36
JohnFluxKabal: can you dcc:   ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml02:37
JohnFluxKabal: you can then delete that file02:37
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JohnFluxKabal: dcc it to me first so I can try to debug for the future02:37
JohnFluxdeleting that file should fix your problem02:37
Kabaldcc: ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml02:37
Kabalbash: dcc:: command not found02:37
JohnFluxKabal: hehe, do it here02:37
JohnFluxin your irc app, type:02:37
JohnFlux /dcc send johnflux ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml02:38
KabalDCC Unknown command02:38
JohnFluxhmm :/02:38
KabalOpera 9 here02:38
JohnFluxi don't know it02:38
JohnFluxright click on my name or something02:38
JohnFluxthere will be a way to send a file to me02:38
JohnFluxor put the file at: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com02:39
JohnFluxthat's probably easier02:39
visik7I've follow this guid http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107135 but gtk1 apps still so ugly02:41
visik7how can I fix ?02:41
Kabaldo you get the file now?02:41
KabalIt should02:41
JohnFluxKabal: what did you do with it?  put in the pastebin?02:42
killianany idea why lm_sensors doesn't work?02:42
JohnFluxKabal: where did you put the file?02:43
Kabalwhent to site...02:43
Kabaland filled in02:43
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KabalCan you see it?02:44
JohnFluxKabal: you need to tell me the url02:44
JohnFlux;)02:44
Kabal<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>02:44
Kabal<!DOCTYPE KSysGuardApplet>02:44
Kabal<WorkSheet sizeRatio="1" dockCnt="4" interval="2" >02:44
Kabal <display topBar="1" vColor="6853833" title="User" dock="0" bColor="3223601" graphStyle="0" class="FancyPlotter" unit="" hScale="1" showUnit="0" hLines="1" hCount="5" vLines="1" autoRange="1" min="0" max="0" hColor="6853833" globalUpdate="1" pause="0" fontSize="9" labels="1" vScroll="1" vDistance="30" >02:44
Kabal  <beam sensorName="cpu0/user" hostName="localhost" color="1608191" sensorType="integer" />02:44
Kabal </display>02:44
Kabal</WorkSheet>02:44
Kabalthis?02:44
Kabal:)02:44
JohnFlux;)02:44
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Kabaleven better? :)02:45
JohnFluxKabal: just for kicks, could you do "ping localhost"  and check it does resolve to 127.0.0.102:45
JohnFluxKabal: I see nothing wrong with the fil02:45
JohnFluxfile02:45
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KabalJohnFlux: ping localhost02:46
KabalPING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.02:46
KabalBut please what's up with asking for a connection? when I drag a value to the little monitors02:47
JohnFluxKabal: something is going wrong when it looks up localhost02:48
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JohnFluxKabal: possibly what is happening is ksysguardd is crashing02:48
JohnFluxKabal: maybe one of the sensors..  I don't know02:48
KabalWhen I add a value.. ask properties go to sensors I see status: error02:49
JohnFluxand the host says "localhost" right?02:49
JohnFluxvery strange :/02:49
JohnFluxtype "ps | grep ksysguardd"02:49
Kabalyes02:49
JohnFluxtype "ps aux | grep ksysguardd"02:49
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JohnFluxvisik7: I did see your question but I don't know sorry.  Don't use gtk apps? *grins*02:50
Kabal8605  2.0  0.1   2256  1024 ?        S    14:19   0:36 ksysguardd     8693  0.0  0.0   2940   576 pts/5    R+   14:50   0:00 grep ksysguardd02:50
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Kabal8605  2.0  0.1   2256  1024 ?        S    14:19   0:36 ksysguardd02:50
Kabal8693  0.0  0.0   2940   576 pts/5    R+   14:50   0:00 grep ksysguardd02:50
JohnFluxthanks.  that looks fine02:51
JohnFluxI don't know ;/02:51
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famillehi - i have some troubles upgrading my 5.10 to kde 3.5.1 : apt-get dist-upgrade shows the infamous "The following packages have been kept back"...02:51
JohnFluxKabal: I'm rewriting a large amount of it for kde402:51
JohnFluxKabal: Hopefully it will be a lot more solid for kde402:51
Kabaloke :)02:51
Kabalnice :)02:51
KabalYes I hope so too :) cuz it's really a GREAT tool :D02:51
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JohnFluxKabal: I've just add antialiasing and bezier curves to the signal plotter ;)02:52
familleit's probably a faq but couldn't find the information anywhere :(02:52
visik7JohnFlux: a program to encode divx that is no dvdrip (that is in gtk1 ?)02:52
JohnFluxfamille: give an example for what packages are held back02:52
vijayhi, everyone, is there any gui applet to know when network is disconnectd, because my connection is a problmatic connection02:52
Kabalwhen value added in one monitor I see a connector with a flash in it...02:53
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JohnFluxvijay: on the console, you can use mii-tool ;)02:53
vijayjohnFlux:ok i'll try02:53
JohnFluxvijay: sudo mii-tool --watch02:53
famillejohn http://pastebin.com/59437402:53
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JohnFluxfamille: pick one, and do apt-get install kwin     etc02:54
JohnFluxfamille: tell me what the error message is02:54
famillejohn http://pastebin.com/59438202:56
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JohnFluxfamille: apt-get install kdelibs4c202:57
JohnFluxKabal: btw, to fix for now you can delete that file I said02:58
JohnFluxKabal: ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml02:58
Kabalah oke :)02:58
KabalThanx I will do that right away :)02:58
familleJohnFlux: http://pastebin.com/59438502:58
Kabalbtw this is a other explanation02:58
KabalI wanted to have a monitoring in the task bar on the hard disk usage of02:58
Kabalmy machine (localhost) and I found out that the ksysguard applet handle02:58
Kabalshould be able to do that. So far so good.02:58
KabalI then wanted to set it up. It suggests to drag and drop the sensor into02:58
Kabalthe applet cell. After having done that, it asks for the connection type02:58
Kabal(ssh, rsh, Deamon, custom). I tried them all but always finish up with a02:58
Kabalnon working sensor (with a small drawing indicating so).02:58
KabalThat's my problem hehe02:59
JohnFluxKabal: it should not ask for the connection type02:59
JohnFluxI can't see why it would02:59
JohnFlux:/02:59
KabalI deleted the file..03:00
Kabalafter refresh It came back..03:00
Kabalit asks for the connection type03:01
Kabal03:01
Kabal(ssh, rsh, Deamon, custom).03:01
JohnFlux:/03:01
JohnFluxyou want daemon on localhost03:01
JohnFluxbut it shouldn't do that!! ;)03:01
JohnFluxKabal: kill ksysguard03:01
JohnFluxKabal: and rerun it03:01
Kabaloke :)03:01
Kabalkill: ksysguard: arguments must be process or job IDs03:02
djclue917Kabal: killall -KILL ksysguard03:02
Kabalno process killed03:03
Kabaldid it by hand I think03:03
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djclue917Kabal: so it means ksysguard is not running...03:03
Kabalyes :)03:03
KabalI will rerun now03:03
djclue917Kabal: why do you need to kill ksysguard via the terminal?03:04
JohnFluxKabal: remove the applet too03:04
KabalIT WORKS!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D03:04
JohnFlux:-)03:04
JohnFluxsomething went wrong with ksysguardd03:05
KabalThanx JohnFlux03:05
JohnFluxI will try to make that more robust03:05
Kabal:D03:05
Kabalsounds great :)03:05
JohnFluxdjclue917: you mean use ksysguard to kill ksysguard ? :)03:05
djclue917JohnFlux: no03:05
djclue917JohnFlux: i mean why use the terminal to kill ksysguard? it crashed?03:06
djclue917JohnFlux: or hanged?03:06
JohnFluxdjclue917: he was having problems with it03:06
djclue917JohnFlux: oh i see...03:07
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familleJohnFlux: do i need to run apt-get dist-upgrade in single user boot ?03:10
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ryanakcawhen I boot up kubuntu, I get this error message: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59439903:11
ryanakcaI take it that there's something wrong with grub?03:12
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EpoHello03:14
JohnFluxryanakca: looks like initrd prob03:15
JohnFluxryanakca: what did you change? :)03:15
JohnFluxEpo: yo03:15
EpoMy dad had a Kubuntu 5.10CD which I wanted to install. In Windows I resized a partition and had free space03:15
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EpoI booted from the Kubuntu disc and it asked me keyboard language, and such03:15
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EpoThen I created a partition in de free space, one 5GB ext3 and 256MB swap space03:16
EpoI asked to format them, so Kubuntu did that03:16
EpoAfter the "install", it said I completed the first stage, and ejected my disc, and rebooted03:16
ryanakcaJohnFlux: I copied everything from my old 34gb hard drive to my new 200gb one because my 34gb hard-drive was making a wonderfull screeching sound :)   I used symantec ghost on some floppy from my cousin to copy it over03:16
Epo(This slightly went wrong, because I had to shutdown my system using the powerbutton)03:17
JohnFluxhmm03:17
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JohnFluxryanakca: maybe on your new system the hard disk isn't called /dev/hda103:17
EpoThen when I rebooted, Grub loaded and "linuxkernel.somenumbers" loaded up03:17
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ryanakcaJohnFlux: It's the only hard-drive :)03:17
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EpoThe problem is I only get a Bash screen, a black one03:17
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EpoNo login screen or whatever03:18
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ryanakcaEpo: does it say login, white on black?03:18
Epoi obviously did something wrong, but what?03:18
EpoYes, and I can login03:18
ryanakcaEpo: might give you one, just not a graphical login screen03:18
Epothen it says epo@kubuntu03:18
ryanakcaok, my guess would be login, yes03:18
KabalJohnFlux: this is how I had it before it crashed03:18
EpoI can switch to root, by doing "sudo su"03:18
Kabal<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>03:18
Kabal<!DOCTYPE KSysGuardApplet>03:18
Kabal<WorkSheet sizeRatio="1.2" dockCnt="4" interval="2" >03:18
Kabal <host port="-1" shell="" name="localhost" command="ksysguardd" />03:18
Kabal <display topBar="1" vColor="326429" title="CPU" dock="0" bColor="3223601" graphStyle="0" class="FancyPlotter" unit="" hScale="3" showUnit="0" hLines="1" hCount="2" vLines="1" autoRange="1" min="0" max="0" hColor="14606046" globalUpdate="1" pause="0" fontSize="8" labels="1" vScroll="1" vDistance="30" >03:18
Kabal  <beam sensorName="cpu/user" hostName="localhost" color="1608191" sensorType="integer" />03:18
Kabal  <beam sensorName="cpu/sys" hostName="localhost" color="16743688" sensorType="integer" />03:18
Kabal  <beam sensorName="cpu/nice" hostName="localhost" color="16771600" sensorType="integer" />03:18
Kabal </display>03:18
Kabal <display topBar="1" vColor="4605510" title="Mem" dock="1" bColor="3223601" graphStyle="0" class="FancyPlotter" unit="" hScale="5" showUnit="0" hLines="1" hCount="2" vLines="0" autoRange="1" min="0" max="0" hColor="14606046" globalUpdate="1" pause="0" fontSize="8" labels="0" vScroll="1" vDistance="30" >03:19
ryanakcakabal: no psting please03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="mem/physical/application" hostName="localhost" color="1608191" sensorType="integer" />03:19
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ryanakcapasting I mean03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="mem/physical/buf" hostName="localhost" color="16743688" sensorType="integer" />03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="mem/physical/cached" hostName="localhost" color="16771600" sensorType="integer" />03:19
Kabal </display>03:19
Kabal <display topBar="1" vColor="6853833" title="Data" dock="2" bColor="3223601" graphStyle="0" class="FancyPlotter" unit="" hScale="1" showUnit="0" hLines="1" hCount="5" vLines="1" autoRange="1" min="0" max="0" hColor="6853833" globalUpdate="1" pause="0" fontSize="9" labels="1" vScroll="1" vDistance="30" >03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth0/receiver/data" hostName="localhost" color="1608191" sensorType="integer" />03:19
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Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth0/receiver/drops" hostName="localhost" color="16744200" sensorType="integer" />03:19
ryanakcacan someone kick him please?03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth0/transmitter/data" hostName="localhost" color="16771860" sensorType="integer" />03:19
Kabal </display>03:19
EpoSo I can login yes, but I don't know linux commands03:19
Kabal <display topBar="1" vColor="16777215" title="Data" dock="3" bColor="3223601" graphStyle="0" class="FancyPlotter" unit="" hScale="3" showUnit="0" hLines="1" hCount="2" vLines="1" autoRange="1" min="0" max="0" hColor="16777215" globalUpdate="1" pause="0" fontSize="8" labels="1" vScroll="1" vDistance="30" >03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth1/receiver/data" hostName="localhost" color="65297" sensorType="integer" />03:19
EpoSo I'm stuck03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth1/transmitter/data" hostName="localhost" color="16711680" sensorType="integer" />03:19
Kabal  <beam sensorName="network/interfaces/eth1/receiver/drops" hostName="localhost" color="16771860" sensorType="integer" />03:19
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Kabal </display>03:19
Kabal</WorkSheet>03:19
Kabaloops sorry guys03:19
Kabalyeah oke sorry..03:19
ryanakcaEpo: just a second, we'll wait for this to stop03:19
ryanakcaok03:19
EpoYes, and I can login03:19
deviosheheheh use poastebin or something dood03:19
EpoSo I can login yes, but I don't know linux commands03:20
ryanakcaEpo: are you logged in? don't go "sudo su"03:20
EpoI'm logged in in some DOS windows sort of :)03:20
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EpoBefore this black screen, I set my "aptsomething" to archive.kubuntu.com and it downloaded some stuff03:20
ryanakcaEpo: It's the shell, also called the terminal, the backbone (or one of the backbones) of linux03:20
EpoFor about 20mins03:20
ryanakcaEpo: try going "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"03:21
EpoI know my way around in DOS, but how do I, well, setup the desktop?03:21
ryanakcatry that03:21
EpoI tried that using some manual but it said something about locked03:21
EpoMaybe because I wasn't root at that time? (is possible, can't remember)03:21
ryanakcayes, you need to do "sudo apt...." and not "apt...."03:21
ryanakcasudo makes you root for that command03:22
Epobut I can do sudo su, then be root, and then do just apt right?03:22
ryanakcayou weren't running it as root :)03:22
deviosthe kubuntu live cd couldn't auomatically set up sound on my Dell Optiplex GX24003:22
EpoThis is a Sony VAIO laptop by the way03:22
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EpoOk ryanakca, I'm going to try that right now03:22
arrinmurrEpo: you should use "sudo -i" instead of "sudo su" if you want to get a root shell03:22
_mindspinEpo enabling root is not recommended03:23
ryanakcaEpo: sudo su is bad.... just stick with sudo... once you get more experienced with linux, you might dare do "sudo su", but right now, you have a big possibility of messing your system up... :)03:23
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EpoSorry, my dad "thaught" me that03:23
Epo=)03:23
ryanakcaEpo: I'm talking out of experience, I literally destroyed my system in su... I deleted something or other... crash!03:24
_mindspinit's one of the main differences between kubuntu and other distros03:24
EpoI'll try it now, thanks alot for the help, I hope to be back soon ;)03:24
EpoThanks!03:24
ryanakcakk.... so after you've done "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", go "shutdown -r now"03:24
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ryanakcaand when it comes back up, it should, I repeat should give you graphical login screen :)03:25
EpoOk, I'll hope to join again in an linux irc client :)03:25
Epothanks!03:25
mr-roadsterhello03:25
ryanakcaJohnFlux: It's the only hard-drive :)  what would it be called now then?03:26
mr-roadsterdoe anyone has installed krusader here?03:26
JohnFluxryanakca: check the bios03:26
deviosthe kubuntu live cd couldn't auomatically set up sound on my Dell Optiplex GX240 - on-board sound.  anyone know how to fix?03:26
JohnFluxryanakca: put the hard disk on the primary channel ;)03:26
JohnFluxryanakca: and make sure it's a master03:26
djclue917ryanakca: sudo fdisk -l03:26
ryanakcain the bios is says something like "Hard-drive disc 1" or something or other03:27
ryanakcadjclue917: I can't do sudo in ash... I've tried :/03:27
djclue917ryanakca: use a live cd, then execute the command. ;-)03:27
ryanakcaknoppix :)03:28
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renewipHi, I want to pack my software into .DEB package file. How to do?03:30
JohnFluxrenewip: You file a bug requesting someone to package it03:31
ryanakcarenewip: did you want to install it as well?03:32
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renewipryanakca: i want to compile my software in my system and install it in another one03:33
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arrinmurrrenewip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageBuilding03:36
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ryanakcaJohnFlux: here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/594471      that's the output of "sudo fdisk -l"...  it IS hda03:38
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arrinmurrrenewip: and http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/03:39
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KabalJohnFlux What is the key combination for process table?03:39
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_mindspinps aux03:41
_mindspinor top03:41
ryanakcarenewip: also, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages?highlight=%28CategoryMOTU%2903:41
Kabalps aux and top are CLI but in KDE?03:41
andredKabal: ctrl+esc03:43
_mindspinyupor KsySV03:43
djclue917Kabal: uh, use KSysGuard03:43
ryanakcawhen I boot up kubuntu, I get this error message: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59439903:44
Kabalandred: Thanx :)03:44
ryanakcaI copied everything from my old 34gb hard drive to my new 200gb one because my 34gb hard-drive was making a wonderfull screeching sound :)   I used symantec ghost on some floppy from my cousin to copy it over03:44
KabalCTRL + ESC was the trick :)03:44
ryanakcathe output of "sudo fdisk -l" is located here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59447103:45
djclue917ryanakca: i think you're trying to mount the top-level directories (/etc, /proc, /sys) in /root instead of /03:46
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ryanakcaaye... I'll try editing grub with "e" at the menu... so change it to / instead of root?03:47
tristan_When I use the list display in Konqueror, the files are written in green. How can I change this color to another?03:47
djclue917ryanakca: you may check the GRUB config...03:47
cycus_zwisushello!!!!!!!!!!03:48
djclue917ryanakca: i doubt that GRUB has something to do with this03:48
cycus_zwisuswhat a binch of blind people03:49
djclue917ryanakca: boot knoppix again, mount manually you HDD, then check the <mount point>/etc/fstab file03:49
djclue917ryanakca: *your HDD03:49
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ryanakcadjclue917: nope.. the grub config file is fine... kk03:52
djclue917ryanakca: boot knoppix again, mount manually your HDD, then check the <mount point>/etc/fstab file03:53
nukyis there a good webcam program for linux? that will allow me to network with the cam?03:55
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ryanakcadjclue917: I think I've figured out my problem... I dont have a boot partition :S04:01
dimitrig'day! how many days left (aprox) till dapper release?04:02
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ryanakcadimitri: too many... in my opinion04:02
ryanakcaEpo: it work?04:02
EpoHi again04:02
EpoNo, not really04:02
EpoI dit the apt-get command, and downloaded 350MB04:03
EpoIt downloaded, then configured and after some time it was done04:03
EpoI shutdown -r now, I boot up, and I get some graphic kubuntu welcome logo04:03
ryanakcayes04:03
EpoThen it initialises all the stuff, with the [ok]  next to it04:04
ryanakcaeh hunh...04:04
EpoThen I see a flashing mouse cursus, I assume it tries to go into that mode, but in the end gives me the black screen04:04
Epocursor*04:04
DevGetis it porrible to get reiser4 support in kubuntu 6.04 without compile the kernel by my own04:04
DevGetpossible*04:04
Epowhen I do the aptget command again it says I have nothing to update anymore04:05
EpoMaybe it's a resolution problem?04:05
ryanakcahmmm... my guess is that your Xorg server isn't properly configured...04:05
ryanakcayeah...04:05
EpoIt asked me what resolution I wanted04:05
EpoOr somehow I didn't understand the question04:06
EpoIt asked me to delete what I didn't want to use04:06
ryanakcatry going "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:06
ryanakcawhats your video card?04:06
ryanakcaand ram...04:06
EpoI highlighted 1280*800 (since I have Widescreen) and hit enter04:06
EpoThen in continued like crazy04:06
EpoGFX is a NVIDIA GF 5600 Go I think (it's a Sony VAIO laptop)04:07
Epo512 MB RAM04:07
ryanakcaaye, you should be fine... the first computer I tried installing linux on had 32mb ram and a 10 year old video card... didn't work...04:07
ryanakcahmm04:07
Epo"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" >> I found that command before I downloaded all the stuff, but it wasn't reconfigure04:07
EpoI got an error then, saying I didn't have xorg something04:08
ryanakcado you know what the vertical refresh rate and horisontal sinc rate is?04:08
ryanakcayes, you need to run it after you install it...04:08
EpoHmm, I don't know04:08
EpoI usuually work in 1280*800, that's all I know04:09
EpoRefresh rate is 60Hz I assume04:09
EpoSince it's a laptop04:09
ryanakcahmmm... well... I'll try to find you the howto I used to get it to work... um...04:09
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ryanakcaEpo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28xserver-xorg%2904:10
EpoWould be great04:10
ryanakcaEpo: that got it working perfectly for me :)04:10
EpoThis Howto is intended for those who have installed or upgraded to Hoary, >> I on ly have Badger btw04:10
EpoBreezy Badger04:10
EpoIs that a problem?04:10
ryanakcaI used it when upgrading from breezy to dapper04:11
ryanakcashouldn't be...04:11
EpoOk, I can test it now, this is another machine so I'll sat yon04:11
Epostay on*04:11
ryanakcaand go "startx" in your user login (like once you've logged in with bash, go "startx" to test configurations...). if that configuration doesn't work, go Ctrl-Alt-Backspace...04:13
ryanakcabtw... no garantee that what I tell you will work for you.. I'm just telling you what I did to get it to work... might be completly different for a laptop with an lcd screen than for a desktop computer with a crt...04:15
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EpoHm ok04:18
EpoI did the whole<setup04:19
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EpoIt ended now, should I reboot?04:19
ryanakcait work?04:19
ryanakcatry "startx"04:19
EpoI don't know yet04:19
Epook04:19
ryanakcaand go Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get out04:19
EpoServer already active for siaplay 004:20
Epoerr04:20
Epodisplay 004:20
ryanakcaps aux | grep xorg04:20
EpoI need to type that?04:21
Epoctrl alt backspace doesn't do anything04:21
ryanakcathen go "kill -9 <pidofxorgserver>"04:21
EpoI can't type the straight /04:21
ryanakcayes04:21
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ryanakcaps aux | grep xorg04:21
ryanakcad'you see the pid of xorg there?04:21
EpoI would type it by alt 124 right?04:21
EpoBut I can't put in numbers without shift04:22
EpoBut shift and alt together doesn't work04:22
EpoHow else can I put in  | ?04:22
ryanakcawhat d'you mean alt 124?04:22
ryanakca???04:23
EpoHow did you type the  |  ?04:23
EpoI just copied it here, but I don't know how to put it on the ubuntu pc04:23
ryanakcaI go shift-<keytotheleftof1>04:23
ryanakcayou know the key that is beside one and about tab?04:23
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Epothe console button for games?04:24
ryanakcaexperiment with that one... just press it, then try alt-key, then shift-key...04:24
HymnToLiferyanakca> square ?04:24
Epook04:24
ryanakcasure... "square"04:24
HymnToLife04:24
ryanakcawadda wadda... what you talking about HymnToLife...04:25
HymnToLifeisn't it the key above tab N04:25
HymnToLife?*04:25
ryanakcathat key gives me these caracters: # \ |04:25
ryanakcayes, the key above tab, and to the left of 104:25
EpoAha04:25
HymnToLifedifferent keymaps I assume04:25
EpoI got some output04:26
EpoBut it doesn't make sense to me =)04:26
HymnToLifepastebin it epo04:26
ryanakcaok, can you write it in pastebin?04:26
ryanakcaWhat HymnToLife said...04:26
Epo8409, can that be the pif?04:26
Epopid*04:26
ryanakcakubuntu.pastebin.com04:26
Epowhat is pastebin?04:26
HymnToLife!pastbin04:27
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife04:27
HymnToLife!pastebin04:27
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)04:27
EpoOh, I'll just type it, it's judt one line04:27
EpoSec04:27
ryanakcaput your output on it04:27
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ryanakcaoh, just one line doesn't sound too too good... most likely the pid of "grep xorg"...  anywais, go 'head, I might be wrong :)04:28
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rysiek|plhi there04:29
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Epoepo    8409 0.0 0.1   3120   784   tty1   R+  16:25  0:00  grep xorg04:29
Epothat's all04:29
rysiek|planyone knows why /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh doesn't get called upon bootup? as it definetely *should* get called04:29
Epopid = process ID or something right?04:30
EpoSo I needn to kill the X process?04:30
rysiek|plor rather: it get's called, checks if USplash is running, and if so, it exits, as (as in a comment in this script is said): it will get called later. and it doesn't get called later :|04:30
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iceI get alot of crashed erros when loading kde04:31
_jeffhi everyone04:31
_jeffdoes anyone here use kword?04:31
icein fact its so bad that the crash box is in a loop04:32
_jefflol04:32
iceand takes up my memory04:32
icecan someone help me fix this04:32
_jeffthat sucks man04:32
Epokill -9 numberofxorg should do the job I guess04:32
EpoBut what's xorg's pid?04:32
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_mindspinps aux04:33
_jeffdoes anyone know how to see your word count in kword?04:33
Epoi did that04:33
Epoepo    8409 0.0 0.1   3120   784   tty1   R+  16:25  0:00  grep xorg04:33
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Epothis was the output of it04:33
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rysiek|pl_jeff: why not using OpenOffice? ;)04:34
_jeffok04:34
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_jeffhi guys04:34
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_jeffdoes anyone know how to get a word count in kword?04:35
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Eporyanakca, you still there?04:36
ryanakcaEpo: back, sorry... phone... umm... that didn't give you the pid... umm04:36
EpoOh sorry for interupting04:37
EpoI reboot instead, maybe it loads up now04:38
ryanakcaaye, give it a go...04:38
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EpoA litte, I have color, kinda distorted but yea04:38
EpoNope, distorted weird colors, tries to go into desktop mode, and then sends me to black login screen04:39
ryanakcado you see anything...04:39
ryanakcadrats04:39
ryanakcaummm04:39
EpoI see a crosslike cursor fora second04:39
rysiek|plEpo: are you guys trying to get the PID of a running XOrg process?04:39
EpoBtw : that ps aux command for xorg always had other numbers for each output04:40
EpoIs that  aproblem?04:40
Epoyes rysiek|pl  :)04:40
rysiek|plwell, XOrg doesn't run as XOrg nor xorg04:41
ryanakcaxserver?04:41
EpoWell yeah, I back at my black login screen now, what should I do?04:41
rysiek|pltry: ps aux | grep X04:41
ryanakcaah04:41
rysiek|pl/usr/X11R6/bin/X04:41
rysiek|plthat's the bastard ;)04:41
EpoDo I have to do the config again?04:41
ryanakcaoh, and btw... remember that example last time? the pid will be where the 8409 was :)04:41
rysiek|pland what is the problem, actually? :)04:42
ryanakcaEpo: might as well... it didn't work when you booted up... so04:42
EpoYeah, but it differed everytimr I did the command04:42
EpoAlways other numbers04:42
EpoOk, I'll go trhough "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again04:42
rysiek|plEpo: it will always be different numbers04:42
ryanakcahis screen is distorted... he followed this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:43
ryanakcaits the article/wiki I used when I had the same problem he had, sadly, it hasn't worked for him04:43
Eporyanakca: I didn't really follow it04:43
EpoI did what you suggested :)04:43
ryanakcameh... then follow it!04:43
EpoOk :)04:44
EpoBtw, the fiest config question troubles me, what do I choose?04:44
Epovesa? vga? ati?04:44
rysiek|plwait a minute - it's for Hoary, right?04:44
ryanakcabreezy04:44
rysiek|plm'kay04:44
EpoBreezy Badger afaik04:44
ryanakcait worked for me on breezy and on dapper04:44
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rysiek|plI mean the tutorial :)04:44
rysiek|plok04:44
ryanakcaits an article for fixing Xorg when upgrading for hoary to breezy04:44
rysiek|plEpo: try "vesa" for a start04:45
rysiek|plit works almost on everything04:45
ryanakcano, for upgrading to hoary04:45
EpoI did thzt the first time to, I'll do vesa ok04:45
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Epo:ok, config done04:47
EpoNow, for the pid of xorg04:47
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ryanakcaps aux | grep X04:48
Epodid that, got 3 lines04:48
Epooine for root, 2 for epo04:48
ryanakcathen you gep something like this: "epo    pid  0.0 0.1   3455 234  tty1..." or something simmilar...04:48
ryanakcaok... pastebin please :)04:48
Eporoot's line points to the dir rysiek|pl  just mentioned04:49
ryanakcaok, sudo kill -9 pid04:49
EpoHow can I pastebin it? I can't do anything without my deskttop04:49
ryanakcafor the one by root that points to the dir rysiek had04:49
ryanakcakill the pid from the root one04:49
Epoholy shnitzel04:50
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EpoI hacked my own machine!04:50
EpoI mean, I got the login screen :)04:50
ryanakcait worked?04:50
EpoThat kill command did it, I had to add sudo before it though04:50
Epoyeah, I'll try to login nox04:50
Eponow*04:50
ryanakcastartx04:50
ryanakcait work?04:51
EpoI'm in the desktop environment04:51
ryanakcaso you can see colors and all?04:52
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EpoThe only problem is I'm working ina square of my screen04:52
ryanakcano fuzy blurry stuff?04:52
EpoYes, color and mouse work04:52
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ryanakca:)04:52
EpoI'll fix that resolution shit later04:52
ryanakcaok... is it a crt?04:52
EpoLaptop LCD I suppose04:52
Epowidescreen, 14,4'', or how much is it04:52
ryanakcaaye... another thing I just thought of... you could've booted the livecd and copy pasted the xorg.conf file :)04:52
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EpoI choose 14inch in the setup screen04:53
Epochose*04:53
EpoBut can I try to reboot now, and will it go directly in desktop modus?.04:53
ryanakcashould04:53
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Eporight imz do that04:53
DjDarkmanhi ,how can i restart alsa?04:54
Epodamn, I hate keyboards I'm not used to04:54
ryanakcalol04:54
ryanakcaheh... I'm used to a french canadian keyboard, and everywhere I go, I'm surrounded by english/us keyboards...04:54
djclue917DjDarkman: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa reload04:55
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DjDarkmanhow can i find out what is using my soundcard?04:56
_mindspinkcontrol04:57
EpoHm, I found the display config by rightclicking on the desktop  but I could only choose 640x48004:59
EpoThat's why the window is so small, the rest of my screen is unused04:59
rysiek|plEpo: you have to edit the config file04:59
EpoThat can be fixed later, right?04:59
_mindspin14'' is a rather small monitor04:59
EpoI have a widescreen05:00
Epo15,4'' it is :)05:00
rysiek|plyou would either have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common (i think that's the package's name) or manually edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf05:00
EpoI'll try the manual edit05:00
_mindspintry the first05:00
EpoErr, is that rightclick edit? =)05:00
EpoI'm a annoyed Windows user, so have mercy05:00
_mindspinso you can select resolution in dialigue05:01
ryanakcato switch from kubuntu to ubuntu or xubuntu without having to downloading an install disk, you just go "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" once you've got "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" (if you want to get rid of kubuntu)   and vice versa for ubuntu - kde or xubuntu, right?05:01
EpoI did that config twice already, I found the dialogs confusing05:01
_mindspinand the configfile not?05:01
EpoSo when asked, I selectr 102x768 and hit enter, right?05:02
EpoI didn't even see the conf file ;)05:02
Epo1024*05:02
_mindspinyou can select more than one05:02
rysiek|plEpo: when asked, select the modes you want to use05:02
EpoI don't know how to do that05:02
EpoDefault, 1024, 800 and 640 were on05:02
EpoYet I could only chose 64005:02
_mindspinby hitting space to select?05:02
rysiek|plyou have them all listed - just select them with the arrow keys and hit enter - an "*" shows next to the selected ones05:03
EpoAha space to select, I'll try that lol05:03
rysiek|plargh, space, not enter :] 05:03
djclue917ryanakca: nothing would really be removed if you remove kubuntu-desktop package because it's just a metapackage05:03
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EpoHm, when I rebooted back to black screen05:05
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_mindspinsure05:05
DoctorMOhey all05:05
EpoBy doing the ps aux and kill again I got to the alright login screen again05:05
_mindspin640x480?05:05
DoctorMOI'm updating my sisters computer remotly and I'm geting alot of errors with apt-get update05:05
EpoYeah, 6405:06
Epo640*05:06
DoctorMOMost of the servers are responding with: Bad header line05:06
DoctorMOhow can I fix this?05:06
EpoBut what if I change it into dpkg-reconfigure and so on, but if I reboot it's all gone?05:06
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_mindspinCtrl Alt Backspace will kill xserver05:06
EpoBut is it normal you got the shell when you boot up?05:07
EpoI'd like to have the graphic login scree05:07
_mindspinYou'll have05:07
_mindspinbut you want it running the correct reolution amI right?05:08
EpoOf course, but first I want it to boot, go to the login screen (instead of thr black shell thing)05:08
EpoOr is that irrelivant?05:08
_mindspinbtw. which version of kubuntu do you use?05:08
Epo5.1005:08
EpoBreezy Badger05:09
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_mindspinok05:09
rysiek|plbrb, rebooting05:09
_mindspinwhen you log in via the GUI xserver has to run with correct parameters05:09
_mindspinif those are not correct you will have no fun with either kde or gnome or whatever05:10
maentyanyone here knows how to edit the media:/ in KDE ?05:11
_mindspinwhat do you want to do maenty ?05:11
EpoI see _mindspin ... do I need to run the kdpg-reconfigure thing again when I reboot?05:11
maentyhow to edit the functionality of it? or is it just forced so that every KDE users have to have the desktop icons of mounted drives automatically? And because this media:/ does not even work in my KDE anymore so it only adds the DVD there05:11
_mindspinEpo: you have to get it configured correct once..05:12
DoctorMOmaenty: it's related to how kde mounts devices in the local userspace instead of the global space which would require root access05:12
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EpoHm, I wonder which option I set wrong then05:12
EpoI'll try to configure it again05:13
maenty_mindspin: Basically what I would like to do is to have fast way to browse my files. I have noticed that even though this media:/ thing does not work properly, I can still add a shortcut to certain folders in the desktop so that when I click it I can browse files. I don't like desktop icons at all and I'd like to remove them, instead of that I would like to have a shortcut to file browsing in "system tray" but adding custom shortcuts there seems to be impos05:13
Eposudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg right?05:13
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_mindspinso add filemanager05:14
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_mindspinmaenty: open menu grab konqueror with your mouse and add it to control bar05:16
DoctorMOmaenty: it should be posible to create a sys tray extention and remove the desktop icons with kde desktop pref panel05:16
_mindspinI hope I understood what you wanna do05:16
maentyI managed to remove desktop icons now05:16
maenty_mindspin: I don't have konqueror anywhere, just the web browser is in the menu05:17
_mindspindoesn't matter, I have konqui for filebrowsing05:18
maenty_mindspin: yap, but where do I move it from?05:18
_mindspinK->internet->konqueror05:18
maenty_mindspin: it seems nothing can be added to the systray just by moving, I should use the "add" menu which has only limited programs and I can't make custom ones05:18
_mindspinI dragged and dropped without any problem05:19
maentywhen I try to drop it, it only goes to one of the icons which are already there, and it opens the program of that icon05:19
_mindspinhehe05:19
maentyand it seems to be not possible to find a place between the icons, as when one icon selection stosp, the other starts05:20
_mindspinso you'll need space05:20
maentyhow can I make systray editable?05:20
_mindspindunno, kcontrol?05:20
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EpoOk _mindspin , I went trough the config again, kill the x process, now the login screen is bigger05:21
EpoIt's still a square (my screen isn't, since it's widescreen), but this is fair enough05:22
EpoI think I'll have 800 or 1024 now05:22
EpoIt seems to be 1024x768 @ 85 Hz05:23
EpoThat's ok for now, thanks for all the help05:23
EpoNot all IRC channels are this helpful :)05:23
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_mindspindid you enable higher resolutions?05:23
_mindspintry wiki and forum, it's very helpful05:24
_mindspinmaenty: I once recockned something about systray, but cannot find it now05:24
_mindspinit worked all the time for me05:25
maenty_mindspin: I got it now, I had to make the Applet Handles visibles in the configuration05:26
maenty_mindspin: Applet Handle is the one that I have to drag to create space05:26
jcarteranyone here have a dell latitude d600?05:26
maenty_mindspin: and then I simplly just moved a shortcut that I had done to desktop05:26
_mindspinthat#s how it should work05:26
maenty_mindspin: thanks for help, i appreciate it05:27
_mindspinyw05:27
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rysiek|plgtg, cu all05:29
maentystorage media button seems to be exactly what I would have wanted there, except that media:/ doesn't work in my KDE so I had to do the shortcuts to the mounted drives by myself05:30
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EpoSorry to bother again _mindspin , but when I shutdown my system and turn it off again, it goes into the black screen again05:33
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EpoI can get into the desktop, by killing that x process, but isn't there another way?05:34
EpoLike... "go to the login screen now, bitch"?05:34
_mindspinthat should be the regular behaviour05:34
Epoerr, first sentence, "turn it ON again"*05:34
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Eposadly, it doesn't05:34
EpoI just get "login"05:34
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Epoand then a command prompt05:35
_mindspinwhen you logged off you were on GUI or console?05:35
Epogui05:35
Eporightclick, shutdown05:35
_JuDgEn_how do i get VIA Sata Raid support to work in kubuntu?05:35
_mindspintype startx and the GUI will appear, check whats your default log on the log in screen05:36
Epoctrl alt backspace doesn't work to get rid of the blackscreen05:36
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EpoI treid that before : startx gives me an "already running'" error05:36
EpoThat's why I needed to kill it myself in order to get to the login screen05:37
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AntiquitusEpo: you haveing a problem with your X?05:38
_mindspinyup05:38
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EpoQuite, it's a long story, first time ubuntu/kubuntu user, btw05:38
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AntiquitusWhats it doing?05:39
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AntiquitusI only joined now so don't have the story unfortunately...05:39
EpoWell, I had troubles installing kubuntu then I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:39
EpoIt downloaded a bunch, but I couldn't get to the desktop environment, I only saw the command prompt05:40
EpoSo I was advised to config the xorg, which I did multiple times05:40
AntiquitusSo you didn't even see the desktop environment while you installed off the CD?05:40
EpoThen I looked up the xorg pid, killed the process and there was the login screen I wanted05:40
maenty_mindspin: it seems it didn't work in the end05:41
maenty_mindspin: in desktop i can "create new -> link to device -> /mnt/storage"05:41
EpoThe poroblem was it was in 64005:41
maenty_mindspin: however, when I try to drag that link to the systray, the link becomes unusable05:41
Antiquitusokay. what graphics card are you using?05:41
EpoI changed it to 1024 succesfully, but when I boot it goes into cmd prompt auto, and not into the loginscreen I want05:41
EpoIt's a laptop, Sony VAIO centrino with a Nvidia GF 5600 Go (as far as I'm aware)05:42
AntiquitusAnd if you <ALT> + F7 do you get the login screen?05:42
AntiquitusThat is just after you have booted up.05:42
EpoDamn, that worked05:42
EpoWhat does that button do as a command?05:42
AntiquitusYou see, there are multiple "virtual" terminals available to you when you boot up. ALT + Fx switches to terminal x05:43
EpoOk, I can get easily to the loginscreen now, how do I config it it goes to that mode automatocally?05:43
Antiquitusthe GUI desktop runs on 7. to get it to go there automatically, humm. let me have a look on my box quick.05:44
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AntiquitusUsually it just does ;)05:44
EpoOk, super :)05:44
EpoIt's no disaster if I can't fix that now05:44
AntiquitusEpo: what do you get from the command: cat /etc/inittab | grep initdefault05:45
AntiquitusThis should be okay but best to check to be sure..05:45
EpoHm, I'm in the desktop now, where do I type that?05:45
Antiquitusclick on applications -> System tools -> new teminal05:45
Antiquitusand type it in there.05:45
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AntiquitusShould give you something like this once you type the command in05:46
Antiquitusbradley@almira:~$ cat /etc/inittab | grep initdefault05:46
Antiquitusid:2:initdefault:05:46
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raveneyeGudevening05:47
EpoOk, I can't find the terminal, I'm ashamed05:47
raveneyeterminal or console?05:48
EpoAha, it is Konsole05:48
EpoThis feels strange as an experienced Windows user05:48
EpoBeginning all anew :)05:48
raveneyelol ok terminal indeed...05:48
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raveneyeif you want to jump to the console try [ctrl alt F1 to F6] 05:50
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_mindspinmaenty: Sorry, but Im working, are you sure the path to binary fits? have a look at the properties of the link05:50
raveneyeand [alt F7]  to jump back05:51
maenty_mindspin: the link was to a file named storage.desktop05:52
_mindspinyou need the path to the binary05:52
djclue917raveneye: uh, those are called virtual terminals... you shouldn't use them unless necessary because you already have terminal emulators like Konsole, xterm, etc.05:52
maenty_mindspin: I found another way. There seems to be a special button that can be added: "Quick Browser" which lets me browse it directly from there, or open it in conqueror. I think I could get used to that05:52
Epoid:2:initdefault: , that was the output05:53
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EnglishStanneed help!!! where do i go?05:53
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cycus_zwisuskubuntu is too easy, what should i try next?05:53
AntiquitusEpo: Sorry, I got disconnected.05:53
EpoNo prob at all :)05:53
maentyEnglishStan: #kubuntu is a good place to go if you need help :)05:53
AntiquitusEpo: you manage to run that command?05:54
EpoThis chatzilla doesn't even show joins/quits05:54
EnglishStanok lol, i need to install VLC player, and i typed the commands that it said on the site, but nothing happens05:54
EpoI didn't even notice05:54
maentyEnglishStan: Also you might want to browse the ubuntu forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org05:54
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EnglishStani am a linux virgin05:54
Epoyes Antiquitus , the output was as you predicted05:54
djclue917cycus_zwisus: what is your problem?05:54
maentyEnglishStan: I installed VLC just some time ago. Did you type sudo apt-get install vlc ?05:54
EnglishStani typed apt-get install vlc, but not sudo05:55
AntiquitusEpo: okay, I wonder what else could be the problem. btw, you can also use gaim or xchat to talk on irc. They both show you all the messages.05:55
maentyEnglishStan: You need to type sudo first, so you are installing it as "root"05:55
cycus_zwisusi'd like to try something more ambitious than kubuntu05:55
maentyEnglishStan: try again like this: sudo apt-get install vlc05:55
maentyEnglishStan: Then type in your password when it asks05:55
EpoIs it on my machine already? Or do I have to do apt-get xchat in the terminal or something?05:55
HymnToLifethe Breezy VLC sucks ass though05:56
EnglishStanthe command window dissapeared, do i need to open a terminal window and do it there?05:56
maentyHymnToLife: What do you recommend?05:56
raveneyedjclue971 You are so right. but bad habbits are hard to overcome.05:56
AntiquitusEpo: I think its already installed, let me find it on my machine.05:56
HymnToLifeusing another VLC05:56
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HymnToLifeI compiled mine from source05:56
djclue917cycus_zwisus: why do you even bother asking that question here??? try Gentoo.05:56
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cycus_zwisus(k)ubuntu is the easiest distro, now i'd like to try something a BIT more challenging :)05:56
AntiquitusEpo: check in Applications -> Internet.05:56
HymnToLifethe Breezy build lacks a _lot_ of stuff05:56
maentyHymnToLife: VLC seems to be only thing that plays at least some video files. Kaffeine does not play any video files I have05:56
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Epo^^Aha, it already had Konversation05:56
maentyHymnToLife: sounds interesting.. how do I do this?05:56
djclue917cycus_zwisus: challenging? try debian05:57
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cycus_zwisusis there only one step between (k)ubuntu and gentoo? i don't think so05:57
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EnglishStani got an error05:57
maentyHymnToLife: Probably your way will also work with amd64? (compiling by myself)05:57
maentyEnglishStan: what does the error say?05:57
HymnToLifemaenty> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12756305:57
djclue917cycus_zwisus: better yet, try to build your own distro if you really want some hard work05:57
Epo^^Any ideas what I should try next, Antiquitus ?05:57
HymnToLifeyes it will05:57
Tom_KiddWhenever I try to visit a website in konqueror I get ..05:57
Tom_KiddCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:05:57
Tom_Kidd klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.05:57
maentyHymnToLife: great, thanks alot!05:58
EnglishStancannot get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open05:58
maentyEnglishStan: are you sure you typed "sudo" in the beginning of line?05:58
EnglishStanyeah, then my password05:58
HymnToLifemaenty> if you never compiled stuff before, you'll certainly have a bit of trouble, feel free to pm me :)05:58
maentyhmm.. strange, maybe some more experienced can help EnglishStan with apt-get?05:58
cycus_zwisusi don't want hard work, the problem is all my colleagues laugh at me because i use such an easy distribution05:58
maentyEnglishStan: I'm just a beinnger myself too, installed linux on sunday05:59
HymnToLifewhat's the problem EnglishStan ?05:59
raveneyecycus_zwisus if you like a challenge try Debian Etch... and if you really like adventure try Debian Sid or Gentoo and if you consider yourself a diehard FreeBSD and if you really want to go the masochist route OpenBSD05:59
EnglishStanmaybe my password is wrong, is it the same password as the login password?05:59
HymnToLifeyes05:59
maentyHymnToLife: I've done some compiling before, but just by make/make install etc05:59
AntiquitusEpo^^: I can't think of anything off hand...05:59
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HymnToLifewell, follow the topic then it explains it all05:59
EnglishStanHymnToLife: trying to install the VLC player05:59
Epo^^No problem, it's no problem it doesn't go auto05:59
Epo^^I can just press alt F7 when I boot right?05:59
Epo^^Then everything is ok06:00
HymnToLifehmm you're a beginner so maybe compiling is not the best thing to do06:00
cycus_zwisusi think debian is a good idea06:00
HymnToLifesudo apt-get install vlc doesn't work ?06:00
maentyEnglishStan: the more I use linux, the more I like it :) Don't get discouraged even though you might have some difficulties in the beginning. When you learn how to do things Linux is great06:00
AntiquitusEpo^^: there is a file where you can tell it what terminal to start in at boot, I just can't remember where it is %)06:00
djclue917cycus_zwisus: why do you even care? we have the power to choose what we want to use. if you're productive in kubuntu, then just stick with it, if not, then maybe you could find some other distro that would suit your needs best06:00
cycus_zwisusthanks06:00
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EnglishStanno, it asks for a password06:00
AntiquitusEpo^^: have you tried to reboot just for luck?06:00
HymnToLifeenter it then :)06:00
Epo^^I'll remain here as much as I can Antiquitus , when you think of it again, would you let me know?06:01
HymnToLifeit's the same you use to login06:01
Epo^^I was planning to reboot just now, Antiquitus06:01
EnglishStani did, and got an error06:01
HymnToLifewhich one ?06:01
raveneyecyus_zwisius just be carefull you read the Releasenotes that come with the install cd or the dailybuilds.... Etch is not stable so you might be in for a rough ride...06:01
Epo^^so, rebooting!06:01
EnglishStanthen root password = login password???06:01
HymnToLifeno06:01
HymnToLifethere is no root password on ubuntu06:01
maentyHymnToLife: I'm not so new, I used to have Red Hat as my only OS for half a year in 2002-2003, however I haven't used linux since that and I'm learning things again :)06:01
cycus_zwisusbut it's obvious that using  kubuntu i'm not gonna learn much06:01
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HymnToLifewell, at least it's disabled by default06:01
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djclue917cycus_zwisus: it's not like that you know. it's just a matter of exploring the distro.06:02
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cycus_zwisuswill using debain teach me how linux really works?06:02
EnglishStano, i think i have sussed it, but it says can't find VLC06:03
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maentyHymnToLife: what is this MKV that this thread talks about? Will it also play all other stuff like divx, WMVs, .movs etc if I compile by myself?06:03
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Tom_Kiddcycus_zwisus: Use LFS if you REALLY want to learn06:03
Tom_Kidd:)06:03
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HymnToLifemaenty> well the Ubuntu build is crappy but not to the point of not playing divxes06:04
EnglishStanCould not find Package VLC... I didn't get that before vecause Package manager was open06:04
djclue917cycus_zwisus: by the way, what's their justification in labelling kubuntu as an easy distro? as a matter of fact, kubuntu's installer is not as pleasant to the eyes as compared to the other distros' GUI installers06:04
HymnToLifebut MKV is definitely not the only thing it lacks06:04
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raveneyeif you are willing to read yes.... but dont make the mistake to confuse X and Gnome or KDE with linux. if you want to learn linux.... apt-get remove --purge x-window-system and do your stuff on the commandline.06:04
cycus_zwisusTom_Kidd, you don't get it, using ubuntu i'll be able to cope with ubuntu only06:04
HymnToLifeEnglishStan> ok, your souces?list is bad06:04
frank23HymnToLife: what? VLC doesnt play mkv in ubuntu?06:04
Tom_Kiddcycus_zwisus: And what can they do that you can't?06:04
cycus_zwisuswhich distro is more like 'universal'?06:04
djclue917cycus_zwisus: if you want to learn, try to break a distro and then try to fix it. then you'll learn06:04
HymnToLifefrank23> nope it doesn't06:04
HymnToLifethe defaut build at least06:05
EnglishStanso how do i get the read the VLC package??06:05
cycus_zwisusdjclude917, i've tried it many times :P06:05
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HymnToLifeEnglishStan> run kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list06:05
raveneyecycus maybe you should try slackware.06:05
Tom_Kiddcycus_wizus: Although, for an alternative I suggest Slackware, or Gentoo. Though, Gentoo is a bit harder.06:05
cycus_zwisuswhat about archlinux?06:05
Tom_KiddWell, you said universal? Slackware is widely used, yet it doesn't quite 'hold your hand'06:06
Tom_KiddNever used archlinux :\06:06
djclue917cycus_zwisus: if you're an ubuntu user, then you're an ubuntu user. it's not humanly possible to use and get familiarized with all the linux distros out there.06:06
lolziaci need help from ppl who do webdesign here :D to tell me what kind of applications to use for HTML and PHP editing06:06
frank23HymnToLife: you're right. I guess I always used kaffeine for mkv06:06
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EnglishStani done that HymnToLife, now what?06:06
LeeJunFanlolziac: quanta06:07
lolziac???06:07
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HymnToLifefrank23> I did too, but I prefer VLC so I compiled it myself to make it read MKVs06:07
lolziacLeeJunFan: is that installed in default installation06:07
djclue917lolziac: Quanta+06:07
HymnToLifeEnglishStan> delete everything in the file06:07
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cycus_zwisusbut it's hard to cope with other distros if you know ubuntu only06:07
LeeJunFanlolziac: no, you can apt-get install kdewebdev06:07
EnglishStanis that wise?06:07
cycus_zwisusi need something transitional between ubuntu and gentoo, for instance :)06:07
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Tom_KiddSlackware06:08
raveneyeInstalling Gentoo is something for people with alot of patience a powerfull processor and lotsa bandwith.06:08
lolziaci thank you LeeJunFan and djclue91706:08
Tom_KiddThere is nothing exactly like06:08
lolziac:d06:08
Tom_KiddGentoo though06:08
HymnToLifeEnglishStan> and paste this instead : ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12756306:08
Tom_KiddSlackware is different from Gentoo in most places, though Slackware you'll probably learn alot of Linux in general06:08
HymnToLifenope, I meant this sorry : http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list06:08
jarlathWhen I reset my router, the essid reverted to 'default' and kubuntu was unable to connect to it. Does this mean that I cant use my wireless on other networks?06:08
djclue917cycus_zwisus: why do you say so? would you be using all those distros as well that you're so eager to specialize in all of them?06:08
cycus_zwisusno, i'd like to use the most stable and most reliable one in the future06:10
cycus_zwisuskubuntu will never be one06:10
EnglishStanHymnToLife: now what?06:10
frank23cycus_zwisus: then run debian stable06:10
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HymnToLifeclose the file (don't forget to save the changes) and run sudo apt-get update06:10
leafwis anyone using koffice 1.4? Is the chart working for spreadsheets?06:10
EnglishStanhold on, i'm a bit behind lol06:10
leafwcan anyone test that it works?06:10
LeeJunFancycus_zwisus: that all depends on what you want to do. What you consider stable - and what apps you need to be stable.06:11
EnglishStanHymnToLife: http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list is not known on line 106:12
HymnToLife?06:12
raveneyecycus_zwisus the most stable and reliable is without any doubt Debian Stable (Sarge)06:12
HymnToLifewhat d'you mean ?06:12
Tom_Kiddcycus_zwisus: Gentoo isn't that hard.. You just have to read the documentation and if you think you can't remember exactly how to install it then write notes or print it. In the Live CD you can actually use the graphical installer which is quite easier. Gentoo allows top-line customization of packages, since they're all built from sources. It's also got a large thriving community. I've liked what I've used from it and am considering going to i06:13
EnglishStanthats ehat i got when running the sudo apt-get update06:13
HymnToLifeit works like a charm for me06:13
raveneyeDrawbacks of Debian Stable are that the sofware outdates pretty fast. Since they dont have a fixed release cycle06:14
HymnToLifeI think you made a mistake while copy/pasting06:14
LeeJunFanit's outdated when you install it. But stable - yes06:14
EnglishStani think i got the membres mixed, i didn't copy and paste you see, i spelt it members lol, i'll retry lol06:14
Tom_KiddAlso: Gentoo has a largely updated automated portage system where you'll find tons of applications and many versions of them06:14
frank23cycus_zwisus: Tom_Kidd yeah but if you want to learn linux in "general" gentoo is pretty unique, I don't think many other distros use portage06:14
cycus_zwisusTom_Kidd, i'm afraid i'm not experienced enough yet to use gentoo06:14
HymnToLifeEnglishStan> lol06:14
maentyHymnToLife: pm06:14
HymnToLifeI got no pm...06:15
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bmwHi!  Question: Trying to get nettools-status-applet to work uinder Kubuntu.  Can't seem to get it to work.  THoughts?06:15
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Tom_Kiddfrank23: If he wants to learn Linux in general, he needs to work on a LFS.. Otherwise there is no choice but learning specific distros..06:15
_epoHm, Antiquitus ... I went trhough the config again, and I enabled some more resolutions06:15
raveneyeLOL trust me you dont want gentoo if you dont have some computing power and tons of bandwith... I gave it a shot and gave up after a succesfull base install.... the compiling makes it nervewrecking...06:15
EnglishStanHymnToLife: still got same message :(06:16
HymnToLifehmm06:16
cycus_zwisusok, thanks, i think i'll try debian sarge06:16
_epoWhen I go into the GUI display I only have the option between 1024, 800 and 640, the refresh rate is defaulf "0"06:16
HymnToLifesave the sources.list file to your /home06:16
HymnToLife(use Ctrl+S, save the file to /Home/user)06:16
Tom_KiddSadly my computer is hating the new Gentoo iso, isolinux plugs me with an error every time so I'm working on that06:16
cycus_zwisusubuntu is debian-based so maybe it won't be that hard to learn debian06:17
HymnToLifemaenty> did you register your nick ?06:17
_epoIs there another way to change the available modes than to do "kdpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" all the time?06:17
HymnToLifePMs won't work if you didn't06:17
maentyHymnToLife: oh.. right06:17
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Tom_Kiddcycus_zwisus: Good idea, Debian is probably a little harder and it's the preprocessor to MANY OS.06:17
EnglishStanHymnToLife: home folder: /root/ <--- ????06:17
HymnToLifeno06:17
frank23cycus_zwisus: debian stable is fine if you need STABLE but with kubuntu you would have more recent software and still learn how to use a deb based distro06:17
HymnToLife/home/user06:17
maentyI'll try to find how to register06:17
Tom_KiddYou'd probably learn more off of Debian, but it's essentially alot of the same.06:17
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HymnToLifemaenty> /msg nickserv register password06:18
cycus_zwisusi don't really need recent sodtware06:18
_adminjoin #kawanua06:18
cycus_zwisussoftware*06:18
EnglishStantype /nickserv register <email> <password>06:18
EnglishStanor something like that06:18
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Epo^^No thoughts? I want my Kubuntu in 1280 (I have Widescreen)06:19
HymnToLifeEnglishStan> did you save the file to your /home ?06:19
HymnToLifehmm06:20
EnglishStanyeah, still the same, something about not know in line 1 on source list06:20
HymnToLifetell me, you didn't paste the URL into your sources.list did you ?06:20
EnglishStanyeah lol06:20
cycus_zwisusok, have a nice evening06:20
HymnToLifewell06:20
HymnToLifeyou ned to paste the content s of the file :D06:20
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HymnToLifeopen it in your web browser ;)06:20
cycus_zwisusbye06:20
EnglishStanhahahaha..06:20
EnglishStani'll learn, ok, gonna get the list06:21
HymnToLifehaha, no problem :)06:21
bmwAnyone got an idea of how to get nettools-status-applet to work?06:21
raveneyetime to eat... later06:23
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EnglishStanHymnToLife: seems to be working :D.... i love you lol06:25
EnglishStanjust unpacking :D06:25
HymnToLifehaha you're welcome06:25
HymnToLifethen you can run sudo apt-get install vlc06:25
EnglishStanso to basically to install stuff, just follw that procedure.... ???06:26
HymnToLifeno06:26
EnglishStan:(06:26
EnglishStan:P06:26
HymnToLifejust type the sudo apt-ge installyou don't need to mss with the sources.list anymore06:26
EnglishStanthats what i meant lol06:26
HymnToLifeok :)06:26
HymnToLifehmm you're running KDE right ?06:27
HymnToLifedid you upgrade to 3.5.106:27
HymnToLife?06:27
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EnglishStani got an error again, i'll use my ubuntu irc, this is a pain in the arse moving from 1 comp to another, lol, brb06:28
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EngStanhello, it's me again lol06:30
EngStanhow do you cut and paste from the terminal window?06:30
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ApocsHi06:31
EngStanit says it's installed... do i need to reboot or something??06:32
HymnToLifenope06:32
HymnToLifejust run vlc06:32
ApocsIsn't it possible to run a FTP server on Kubuntu 5.10?06:32
EngStanah, i see it on the list06:32
HymnToLifeApocs> of course it is06:33
EngStanwicked, it worked, that was hard work, it just goes to show how lazy us windows users are lmao06:33
Apocshmm, i've installed pure-ftpd but i cant start it :s06:33
Apocsmade a quick boot (CTRL+ALT+Backspace)06:34
HymnToLifethat's not a rebootit just kills X06:34
EngStanok, how do i make desktop icons? it looks a bit bare06:34
HymnToLifehmm06:34
Apocsbut it still won't start06:35
HymnToLifejust drag and drop the VLC menu ico to your desktop I think06:35
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EngStanexcellent, now how to i add recycle bin to my desktop??? :P06:36
Apocstrying a hard reboot, brb06:36
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HymnToLifehmm I don't know06:36
HymnToLifeI never use my desktop anyway, it's always emptyI have everything on panels06:37
EngStanok, cool.... i just wanted to make it a bit like window until i get used to it06:37
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EngStanthanks  for your help.... i'm  getting in the bath, i am going out on the piss tonight :D06:39
raveneyeburp... now that was some serious chow.06:40
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DarkAdmiralwelches ist das beste p2p filesharing programm fr linux?06:43
DarkAdmirallimewire gefllt mir nicht so....06:43
DarkAdmiralwhich is the best p2p filesharing application?06:43
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HymnToLifeDarkAdmiral> buy CDs06:44
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_mindspinfish06:45
_mindspinno06:45
_mindspinjust ajoke06:45
DarkAdmiralHymnToLife: i like to download trial versions with p2p apps^^06:45
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HymnToLifewhy ?06:46
HymnToLifeI use ddl for those, better bandwidth06:46
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Apocshmm, didn't work06:47
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lolziackbuntuuu rulezzzzz :D07:17
Tm_Tok07:17
DeBertWhat's Kubuntu?07:18
lolziacubuntu with KDE07:19
lolziaci think07:19
lolziac:d07:19
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DeBertKDE?07:19
lolziacGUI07:19
lolziacgraphical user interface07:19
dumezilwhen i click on a link in an application (ie my mail app or irc client), it should pass it to my web browser, but it doesn't...  how do i fix this?07:20
lolziaci got that problem also, but i have it with aMSN07:20
DeBertyou have seet default browser in control center?07:20
dumezilwhere do i set that?07:21
DeBertu use konqueror or firefox?07:22
dumezilfirefox07:22
DeBertyou can do it in firefox in settings07:22
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DeBertah, found it in system settings. Go User Account/Default Applications, and change it there.07:24
lolziacdo u use gnome or kde07:25
lolziacDeBert:07:25
DeBertkde07:25
lolziacfound it07:26
lolziac:d07:26
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dumezilsorry but i don't see that...  Go User Account?  where is that?07:28
lolziaceventhough still aMSN mail link doesnt work -> Can't execute application: mozilla $url07:28
lolziaccheck preferences07:28
DeBertStart/System Settings/User Account/Default Applications07:28
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lolziacfixed :D had to change aMSN preferences07:29
lolziacinsted of mozilla $url - replaed it with firefox07:29
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dumezilwhen you say start, do you mean the k menu?07:30
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heinkel_111brb booting windows :(07:34
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m0ns00nHmm07:40
m0ns00nAMD64 crashes constantly on Kubuntu07:40
m0ns00nIs there anything I can do?07:40
m0ns00nCompile my own kernel or what?07:41
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frank23m0ns00n: what do you mean crashes?07:41
m0ns00nI can't run the system in KDE more than 10 minutes before it crashes07:41
frank23when?07:41
m0ns00nI'm running the NVidia drivers _without_ renderaccel as I don't want a rainbow, but a display07:41
frank23m0ns00n: does it freeze? nothing responds anymore?07:41
m0ns00nNo07:41
m0ns00nx.org crashes07:42
m0ns00n1 time when I tried to apply icon changes07:42
frank23what happens with the nv driver?07:42
m0ns00nI dunno07:42
m0ns00nI'm not running it, it's too slow07:42
m0ns00nI want to feel like I'm on a faster computer than my old 1.1ghz07:42
m0ns00n=)07:42
frank23Well if nv works fine, then the problem is with the nvidia drivers07:43
frank23I don't know how to fix it but at least you would have a usable system07:43
m0ns00nI've heard Suse runs perfect with NVidia drivers on AMD6407:44
m0ns00nKubuntu doesn't even provide half of the KDE 3.5 packages on amd6407:44
frank23the nvidia drivers worked fine for me too when I ran AMD64.07:44
frank23I just use the i386 version of ubuntu now and avoid all those problems ;)07:45
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ubuntuhello, i'm using kubuntu live cd atm and want to mount a hardisk (read-only), however i need root-rights. How to have them WITH THE LIVE-CD?07:46
colmubuntu, use sudo - check out #kubuntu for further help07:47
frank23!rootsudo07:47
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:47
ubuntuok thanks07:48
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ubuntuplease, i need some help to mount my 2 harddisks07:54
ubuntuanyone can help07:54
ubuntui made cd /mnt07:55
ubuntuthen07:55
ubuntusudo mkdir hda1 hdb107:55
ubuntuthen mount -o ro /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda107:55
ubuntumount -o ro /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb107:56
robotgeekubuntu: what does it tel lyou?07:56
ubuntuyou must specify filesystem type07:56
robotgeekubuntu: what partition is it? windows?07:57
maentybootstrap: you need automake version 1.5 or later07:57
maentyI have automake1.9 installed, any ideas?07:57
ubuntuit's ntfs, but how to place it?07:57
robotgeek!ntfs07:57
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:57
ubunturobotgeek, yes07:57
robotgeekmaenty: what are you trying to compile?07:58
ubuntuthat should help, thans07:58
maentyrobotgeek: VC-1, to make VLC play VMW907:58
maentyrobotgeek: http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/07:58
maentyrobotgeek: I'm in the part where I should ./bootstrap under libvc1-1.0 but that gives me the error07:59
robotgeekmaenty: hmm, enjoy07:59
maentyrobotgeek: I would, if it would work :)07:59
robotgeekmaenty: i gave up long time ago, apparently the decoder isn't worth the compiling ;)07:59
maentyautomake (GNU automake) 1.4-p608:01
maentystrange, how does it say it's 1.4-p6 even though I have installed automake1.9?08:01
maentythat's the response of automake --version08:01
robotgeekmaenty: export automake=/path/to/automake1.808:02
maentyhmm I have no idea where apt-get install puts stuff08:02
robotgeekmaenty: dpkg -L automake1.9 | grep bin08:03
HymnToLife/usr/bin most likely08:03
maentyhow can i see where automake= points now?08:05
maentyis there a command to check where it points currently?08:05
maentydidn't help, automake --version says still that it's 1.408:06
robotgeekmaenty: no, but try the make08:07
maentyrobotgeek: ./bootstrap automatically uses the automake08:07
robotgeekmaenty: yeah, try it08:07
maentymake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.08:08
robotgeekmaenty: i meant the bootstrap08:08
maentyyes I tried ./bootstrap again, same prob08:08
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maentybootstrap: you need automake version 1.5 or later08:08
maentyafter that i checked automake --version and noticed that it actually still points to 1.408:09
robotgeekmaenty: try in #ubuntu maybe08:09
kreiterquit08:10
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pradeeptorobotgeek:08:10
robotgeekhey pradeepto08:10
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ganymed_hallo08:11
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maentythanks robotgeek, i got answer and working solution from there08:21
maentyit seems that automake was linked to the old one08:21
maentysudo update-alternatives --config automake let me change the redirection to correct one, and it works now08:21
robotgeekmaenty: ah, nice08:22
ubuntumount: you must specify the filesystem type08:23
ubuntuhi, when i want to mount partiton, i get a "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"08:23
ubuntuby typing for ex. "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" (which i created with mkdir in mnt)08:24
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ubuntui have windows 2000 ntfs btw08:25
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ubuntuHOW can i specify filesystem (where)?08:27
elDeuceanyone around willing to help me with some usb issues?08:27
ubuntui know it's ntfs08:27
robotgeekubuntu: mount -t ntfs08:28
ubuntuok08:28
ubuntutrying now08:28
robotgeekelDeuce: don't ask to ask, just ask08:28
ubuntuhmm08:30
ubuntu"mount point does not exist"08:30
ubuntu:-(08:30
neoncodeWhat good peer to peer programs can I get for linux?08:31
ubuntuazureus08:31
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Epo^^hi again!08:31
elDeuceokay - i have tail logs and lsmod logs -- my usb flash memory when plugged in pulls up konqueror but says sda1 cannot be found08:31
Epo^^Bah, I can't get Wireless to work08:32
Epo^^I go to the control panel, click network and it says I need root access08:32
ubuntumount: you must specify the filesystem type08:32
ubuntui get this08:32
Epo^^There isn't a button to get it either...08:32
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ubuntu???08:32
Epo^^In other dialogs there is, like in Font or something08:32
Epo^^That doesn't mean it works tho : I put it in, but nothing really happens08:33
Epo^^I don't get access to the controls08:33
ubuntui mean, i get this: "mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /mnt/hdd busy"08:33
pvhAre there known problems with the Display Module in Dapper?08:33
pvhMy Display Module won't open in System Settings.08:33
pvhIt simply says "The module Display could not be loaded."08:34
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elDeuceokay - i have tail logs and lsmod logs -- my usb flash memory when plugged in pulls up konqueror but says sda1 cannot be found -- any idea on how to access my usb memory?08:36
ubunturobotgeek, what to do when i get this: "mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /mnt/hdd busy"08:36
ubuntu?08:36
robotgeekubuntu: mount will show you where08:36
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ubuntuhow do you mean?08:37
Epo^^robotgeek, any solutions to my question?08:37
_nielsI just installed kubuntu (breezy) for the first time. How do I upgrade to KDE 3.5?08:37
robotgeekEpo^^: Administrator Mode...08:38
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Epo^^robotgeek, yes; that's what it asks for08:52
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Epo^^But there is no dialog to put in the password, and if there is one (in some config parts it is), it doesn't do a thing08:53
Epo^^I tried the command "kcontrol", but that didn't work either08:53
robotgeekEpo^^, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:54
elDeucei have tail logs and lsmod logs -- my usb flash memory when plugged in pulls up konqueror but says sda1 cannot be found -- any idea on how to access my usb memory?08:54
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weedarI'd love to have a day without firefox crashing08:55
robotgeekelDeuce: look in /media08:55
Snake__weedar: go to opera08:55
elDeucenot there08:55
weedarSnake__, I guess I'll just have to...08:55
Snake__weedar: trust me, youll like it08:55
elDeuce-  /media shows two cdroms, my floppy, and my two hardrives08:55
Snake__IMHO its wayy faster08:55
weedarSnake__, I think I just have bad memories from it beeing ad-driven "back in the day"08:56
Snake__weedar: Not like that any more08:56
elDeucefirefox for windows works quite well -- i'm not too sure about this linux version08:57
robotgeekelDeuce: have you tried ffox1.508:57
robotgeekit seems very nice and stable08:57
Snake__elDeuce: I dont like FF on linux :-/08:57
elDeucei am using ffox 1.508:57
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Snake__robotgeek: its still slow man08:57
robotgeekSnake__: hmm, pretty good for me08:57
robotgeeki use konq mostly tho08:58
Snake__robotgeek: have you tried opera?08:58
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robotgeekSnake__: yeah, it's fast and all, but not so fast as to warrant learning a new browser08:58
elDeucerobotgeek: Snake__: ffox 1.5 starts up really slow for me, but works okay after that. just seems clunkier then windows version08:58
Snake__Heh08:58
elDeucebut no matter what its better then konqueror08:58
Snake__elDeuce: Yea same here, it takes years to start up, but once its goin its nice08:58
elDeucerobotgeek: any thoughts on the usb issue?08:59
kroisisokay, installed kubuntu-desktop successfully, but when I attempt to run K3B it's complaining about not having the cdrdao executables and recommends I install the cdrdao package...how would this be accomplished?08:59
robotgeekelDeuce: hmm, no further clues, sorry09:00
robotgeekkroisis: install it using adept09:00
Snake__kroisis: sudo apt-get install cdrdao09:00
kroisisrobotgeek ok, thanks09:00
elDeuceAn error occurred while loading media:/sda1:09:00
elDeuceThe file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.09:00
elDeucerobotgeek: thats the error it gives me when i plug in the memory09:01
robotgeekelDeuce: but try /media/sda109:01
weedarFirefox in Linux witout Sessionsaver is not a good idea09:02
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weedaror vice versa: Sessionsaver is a great idea when using Firefox =)09:02
elDeucerobotgeek: The file or folder file:///media/sda1 does not exist.09:02
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robotgeekelDeuce: can you paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "mount" to the pastebin09:03
Snake__How do I check how much space my HDD has left?09:03
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Tonio_re09:04
Snake__re?09:04
elDeuceSnake__: df09:04
elDeucein konsole09:04
Snake__Oh sheesh09:04
Snake__thanks09:04
elDeuce:-)09:04
elDeuceone of the very few commands i know09:05
elDeucethnx to the unix servers i "maintain"09:05
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Snake__lol09:05
kroisisokay, ....I'm beginning to appreciate kubuntu now...09:06
Snake__:)09:06
Snake__kroisis: itll only get better09:06
weedar"df -h" if you want the output to be readable =)09:06
kroisisit's kind of irritating not being able to log in to do sysadmin type things as root as first...but one adjusts.09:06
elDeucerobotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59506909:07
lolziackubuntu is perfect09:07
Snake__lolziac: far from it09:07
lolziac:D today i feel good in linux09:07
lolziac:D09:07
elDeucelolziac: very far from it09:07
lolziacveryy very very far09:07
kroisislolziac, don't say things like that when I'm drinking...I'll have to charge you for a new keyboard!09:07
lolziac:D09:07
elDeucebut it makes for a nice learning tool09:07
Snake__lol09:07
lolziaclolzzzz09:07
lolziachahaha09:07
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Snake__Its very very close to the best tho :)09:08
robotgeekelDeuce: you are trying to mount sda1?09:08
lolziaci think09:08
lolziacthere in word yet09:08
lolziacfor that09:08
elDeucerobotgeek: i dunno, am i?09:08
lolziacand the word is going to be09:08
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lolziackubuntuu09:08
lolziac:d09:08
elDeucerobotgeek: this is my second day using linux09:08
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robotgeekelDeuce: the usb, right?09:08
elDeucerobotgeek: yes09:08
kroisiselDeuce, congratulations!09:08
kroisiselDeuce, what was your previous os?09:08
elDeucerobotgeek: i have some knowledge in unix, but no jacks*** about linux09:09
Snake__Windoze09:09
robotgeekelDeuce: try "pmount /dev/sda1"09:09
elDeucekroisis: WinXP, Unix, Mac OS X09:09
Snake__Windows XP = L.D. OS09:09
Snake__Oooo09:09
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Snake__:P09:09
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elDeucerobotgeek: HAHAHAHA, your command gave me an error that reminded me i am a jackass09:10
elDeucerobotgeek: in winblowz i formated the usb stick to have a name... it was sitting at /media/DEUCE09:10
kroisishey, not everyone came to linux from winblows...I came from solaris back in '9609:10
elDeucedeuce@deuce:~$ pmount /dev/sda109:10
elDeuceError: device /dev/sda1 is already mounted to /media/DEUCE09:10
robotgeekelDeuce: cool09:11
elDeucerobotgeek: thnx09:11
Snake__:P09:11
Snake__oops09:11
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lolziacppl09:13
lolziaccan i do a question09:13
kroisis...hopefully my 5 yr old daughter will be one of the last generation to recall the windows monopoly09:13
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lolziacis there any way that i can write to ntfs drive09:13
lolziac???09:13
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lolziaci mounted my ntfs, but i only can read09:13
elDeucelolziac: ntfs is a horrible filesystem and i'm sorry you are using it09:15
elDeucelolziac: other then that, i have no helpful advice, sorry :-/09:15
lolziacelDeuce:  lolz got some more applications that i cant run them in linux09:15
lolziactill i port them all09:15
lolziac:D09:15
elDeuceand i've just broken my spacers in my lobes :-(09:15
elDeucelolziac: i stick with fat3209:16
lolziachmmm09:16
elDeuceah the good ole days of win 9809:16
lolziachahaha09:16
ryanakcaI made the stupid mistake of going "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"... how do I uninstall it?09:16
neoncodeelDeuce: "good" ?09:16
elDeucewhen everything worked the way you expected it to and you could set your watch to the blue screen of death09:16
lolziac:D09:16
lolziacyeep09:16
neoncoderyanakca: "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"? Not sure though09:17
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kroisislolziac, http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053298,00.html  <-- a bit dated but worth the read possibly09:17
ryanakcaneoncode: no... ubuntu-desktop is a meta package....09:17
elDeucerobotgeek: you know about about the nvidia drivers?09:17
neoncoderyanakca: Ahh... Then you now have a few hundered extra packages... I dunno...09:18
lolziackroisis: thanx man09:18
lolziac:D09:18
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elDeuceanyone know anything about the nvidia drivers?09:20
MarrsI use them :)09:21
neoncode I have ATi09:21
elDeucegrr09:21
cerdgwhat do you want to know about them?09:21
elDeucei got everything installed but it wont let me go to higher resolutions that i know exist09:21
Marrscheck your /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:22
Marrsthere should be a list of resolutions there09:22
kroisislolziac, I'm seeing where it seems that you can write to NTFS partitions fine from SuSE 10 Linux, using Captive, but it's pretty limted09:22
elDeuceMarrs: will check, thnx09:23
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FlosoftFlosoft09:23
Flosoftwhy does kded crash on login?09:23
Flosoft09:23
FlosoftFlosoft09:23
Flosoftis there a bugfix for Dapper?09:23
Flosoft09:23
Flosoft21:1409:23
FlosoftFlosoft09:23
Flosoftbecause nearly all applications like Konqueror don't start afterwards ... and sometimes I can't login ... if I already logged in before ... without restarting the PC ...09:23
kroisisman, mine started me out at 1280x1024 on a freakin' 17" monitor...dude, the print was so tiny I had to move in to be bale to change the default resolution...09:24
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lolziaci just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:48
lolziacit was installing09:48
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lolziactill now and asking for /etc/qt3/qtrc09:49
lolziacshould i do Y09:49
lolziacright09:49
lolziac???09:49
lolziac1 2 3 i go with Y :)09:50
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m0ns00nMan09:51
m0ns00nNo linux distro likes this AMD64 computer09:52
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tomcatthello all.09:53
treakathhey all\09:53
tomcattwhat's the word as far as upgrading to dapper from breeze?09:53
m0ns00nWhen installin i386 version of Kubuntu I'm told I get a fatal error09:53
m0ns00nBut since the amd64 fucks up completely this is my only option09:54
treakathis dapper any good???????09:54
JohnFluxtreakath: you could fit in some more ?  I think09:54
m0ns00nI haven't tried09:54
JohnFluxm0ns00n: maybe you have a hardware problem09:54
treakathfit some more what????09:55
m0ns00nJohnFlux: Could be but I doubt it09:55
tomcattit's okay, but that was the gnome version.09:55
m0ns00nJohnFlux: I dunno anyone who ever got a AMD64 to install perfectly on Windows, Linux or whatever09:55
m0ns00nJohnFlux: It's still too young09:55
JohnFluxm0ns00n: I'm using amd64 now :P09:56
JohnFluxtreakath: some more question marks09:56
JohnFluxtreakath: if you tried hard09:56
m0ns00nJohnFlux: there are many versions/types of amd6409:56
treakathyea i no09:57
m0ns00nJohnFlux: And many mainboards09:57
JohnFluxm0ns00n: perhaps, but i've tried 209:57
JohnFluxtreakath: "know"09:57
treakathkk09:57
m0ns00nJohnFlux: This is a MSI board with NForce4 and AMD64 350009:57
JohnFluxm0ns00n: run a hardware checked09:57
JohnFluxm0ns00n: checker09:57
JohnFluxm0ns00n: start with memtest86 maybe09:57
JohnFluxm0ns00n: I wouldn't rule out hardware so fast09:57
treakathwhats a good linux to download09:57
m0ns00nJohnFlux: First I'm gonna try with i38609:57
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JohnFluxm0ns00n: good luck09:58
m0ns00nJohnFlux:09:58
m0ns00nthanks09:58
treakathim using kubuntu at the mo09:58
JohnFluxtreakath: gentoo is good.  try that09:58
treakathi got a laptop and my mate wont install it for me09:59
dottedlinetreakath: Kubuntu is really quite good without the silly sudo blockade09:59
treakath:'(09:59
dottedlinegentoo really requires a more advanced user10:00
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JohnFluxtreakath: if you want to just get going without the hassle of install, you could try a live cd10:02
tomplasthi10:02
JohnFluxtreakath: such as knoppix10:02
tomplastis there anyone good at wireless connections?10:02
cerdgknoppix is great10:02
tomplastor kubuntu optimizations?10:03
JohnFluxtomplast: ask don't ask to ask10:03
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treakathdottedline and johnflux have you got msn if you do this is my add antonne_de_graaf@hotmail.com10:03
JohnFluxtreakath: sorry too busy10:03
treakathwhats yours then10:04
tomplastI'm trying to get a laptop at school working with a D-LINK Wireless PCMIA (one that you plug in or something) card and the first time it detected it and could establish a connection but now it doesnt work and I have not changed anything.10:04
treakathdont have it on cd its not out in nz on cd yet10:05
dottedlinetreakath: I don't use M$ anything...10:05
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treakathkk10:06
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Psi-Jack!QuickTime10:08
ubotu[quicktime]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.10:08
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_treakathjohnflux what were you saying about koppix10:12
JohnFlux_treakath: google for knoppix10:13
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elDeuceMarrs: thanks for the info - got my resolution set now!10:14
Marrsyou're welcome!10:15
cycus_zwisusi've got a little problem with fonts10:15
raveneyelol cycus i bet it has to do with xmms?10:15
cycus_zwisusi fell in love with dejavu sans condensed :)10:15
raveneyeso no xmms10:16
robotgeek!lart me10:16
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_treakathi got it on cd but ma mate wont in stall gentoo or knoppix10:16
cycus_zwisusi'd like to use it for gtk-apps interface as well, but i can't10:16
_treakathon my laptop10:16
cycus_zwisusi mean i set something like gtk-font-name="DejaVu Sans Condensed 11" in .gtkrc-2.010:17
dottedlinetreakath: if some else has to install it, you don't want gentoo - no disrespect intended10:18
cycus_zwisusbut the interface fonts looks rather like dejavu sans, not dejavu sans condensed10:18
cycus_zwisusin opera (qt) it looks as it should look, the problem is with gtk2 apps10:19
raveneyehmmm you might get it working with gtk2 aps but i doubt if you get it working with gtk1.x for gtk 2 apps you need gtkthemeswitch (not sure where the dashes go) and a bunch of gtk2engines apt-cache search -n engines might do the trick... for gtk1. aps and xmms your best bet will be the transcoded xfonts.10:19
elDeucehow come kubuntu doesnt have any games on it?10:19
robotgeekelDeuce: hm, there only so much you can fit on a cd10:20
Psi-JackelDeuce: It does.10:20
cycus_zwisusi don't want it for gtk1, i hardly use gtk1 apps10:20
elDeucerobotgeek: where can i dl them10:20
Marrsit does not over here ;)10:20
elDeucePsi-Jack: where at?10:20
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sorin_Hi.10:20
Psi-JackelDeuce: Open up Adept, and set the filter to games10:20
robotgeekelDeuce: look in adept10:20
raveneyetry apt-get install kdegames10:20
elDeucei'm not sure what that means10:21
raveneyesorry sudo apt-get install kdegames10:21
sorin_I don't understand why Firefox looks like shit in Kubuntu when gtk-qt seems to be installed and enabled in system settings.10:21
Marrsadept is an application10:21
Psi-JackelDeuce: If you actually looked for adept in your KDE menu, you'd know what I was talking about.10:21
Marrsit is used to install programs10:21
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elDeucePsi-Jack: if you fucked off and died maybe it would be better then acting like i know every god damn thing there is to know about linux you dick10:22
Psi-JackelDeuce: It's time for you to leave.10:22
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elDeucePsi-Jack: its time for you to stop acting like a god just because you know more about linux then me10:23
robotgeekelDeuce: you should respect coc10:23
robotgeek!coc10:23
ubotucoc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:23
Marrsrelax guys...10:23
Psi-JackSuch attitude, over such a simple thing. My word, some people have problems. :(10:23
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robotgeekelDeuce: i don't see anything wrong with what Psi-Jack said, really10:24
Tm_Tme neither10:24
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dottedlineelDuece: adept is an apt-get gui used to simplify downloading programs you would like to have on your PC10:25
Tm_Tjust if I'm needed... ;)10:25
elDeucerobotgeek: "he" didnt have to get an attitude. Marrs defined it just fine "an application used to install programs"10:25
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cycus_zwisusraveneye, the problem concerns only interface, on web pages (firefox) dejavu sans condensed looks ok10:25
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robotgeekelDeuce: again, it seemed pretty normal. he said almost exactly what i said :)10:26
Psi-JackelDeuce: I never gave you attitude. I merely pointed out the obvious.10:26
elDeuceif you had never used Windows and i told you to look in system directory you'd have no clue what i meant - so welcome to my world10:26
Psi-JackelDeuce: It was you whom directly attacked me for absolutely no reason at all.10:26
cycus_zwisusi want dejavu sans condensed in my gtk2 apps, it's the nicest font for linux i've ever seen!!10:27
Tm_They, cool it down and take own room if you like to continue10:27
vicksnot supporting elDeuces' response at all, but maybe it wasn't that  obvious to him10:27
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robotgeekelDeuce: Kmenu -> Sysyem -> Adept10:27
elDeucerobotgeek: i got the games installed, thnx10:28
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elDeucewent to /media/USBNAME and got it to work10:28
elDeuceshould be /media/sda1 - but since i formated it in WinXP it was /media/DEUCE10:28
elDeucethnx10:28
Tm_Tif you feel someone behave badly, attacking to him will not make things better ;(10:28
lolziacubuntu ppl is there mplayer from ubuntu10:29
lolziac??10:29
HymnToLifeof course there is10:29
elDeucePsi-Jack: next time i suggest you word things differently to get the same meaning, and you'd even get to type less  ---  [15:21]  <Psi-Jack> elDeuce: look for adept in your KDE menu10:29
lolziaclolziac@lolziac:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins$ sudo apt-cache search mplayer10:29
lolziacksubtile - subtitle editor for KDE10:29
lolziacmga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)10:29
lolziactea - small text editor with syntax highlighting & UTF support10:29
lolziacHymnToLife:10:29
robotgeeklolziac, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:29
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cycus_zwisusbtw, i know how to get nice fonts for gtk1 :P10:30
lolziacsrry10:30
Tm_TelDeuce: I said already, drop it10:30
raveneyecycus_zwisus i understand that still for gtk2apps to atapt a certain style (widgets fonts fontsize) you gonna need gtk-themeswitch2 (still not sure where the dashes go!)  oh and before i forget in systemsettings kdemenu > systemsettings > appearence there is a gtk styles and fonts setting option... check it out.10:30
HymnToLifelolziac> do you have universe/multiverse enabled ?10:30
elDeuceTm_T: i was just showing him how to save keystrokes10:30
raveneyeit might do the gtk-themeswitch thingy for you10:30
lolziacHymnToLife: its my first day in linux10:30
sorin_Sorry, I got disconnected.  I was asking, "I don't understand why Firefox looks horrible in Kubuntu when gtk-qt seems to be installed and enabled in system settings?"10:31
lolziacso that doesnt ring me a bell10:31
lolziac:D10:31
cycus_zwisusraveneye, i've already checked it :/10:31
HymnToLifeok10:31
lolziachow do i enable it10:31
lolziacHymnToLife:10:31
HymnToLiferun kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list10:31
lolziaci think i did that10:31
lolziacenabling to get from internet10:32
HymnToLifeobviously you didn't do it well10:32
cycus_zwisusi'm afraid i'll have to return to  ugly ms fonts :/10:32
HymnToLifeso delete everything in the file and paste this one instead http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list10:32
lolziacill do that10:33
lolziac:D10:33
lolziaceventhough till now i was getting packged10:33
lolziacdone man10:33
HymnToLifeif you couldn't get mplayer you obviously didn't have the right sources10:33
lolziacreplaced it10:33
HymnToLifeok, close the file (save the changes)10:33
HymnToLifeand run sudo apt-get update10:33
vicksfor n00bie friendliness, adept should have something like the synaptic ubuntu-specific repo-selection10:34
lolziacGetting Packages HymnToLife :)10:34
HymnToLifecool :)10:34
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HymnToLifevicks> I really don't like adept10:35
leafwany clues on how to get the external monitor to work?10:35
vicksna, me neither, bet it seems were stuck with it ;)10:35
lolziacHymnToLife: Done10:35
leafwis there an autodetection setup app ?10:35
HymnToLifemaybe it's ause I used Synaptic for so long, but I never managed to install anything with it :D10:35
lolziaci see now10:35
lolziac:D10:35
lolziaclots of mplaers10:35
lolziaci was using this http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt10:36
lolziac:S10:36
lolziacmy mistake, wanted to do it by my self10:36
leafwis there an autodetection setup app ?10:36
leafwany clues on how to get the external monitor to work?10:36
leafwanyone, how to setup an external monitor? I need to project some slides10:37
HymnToLifelolziac> no need for it :)you can get basically whatever you need through apt-get10:37
sorin_I think GTK is not installed, and gtk-qt obvioulsy does not know how to style X's default widgets.10:37
vicksactually a module for selecting and setting repos in system settings would be cool. ubuntu have something like this10:38
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m0ns00nSeems linux has issues with APIC and AMD64?10:43
m0ns00n(APIC issues goes way back)10:43
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sorin_I love the new Control Panel in KDE 3.5.  It looks exactly like  OS X.  I would have expected gnome to clone that before kde.10:45
|GuS|Hi!!10:45
|GuS|one question.... Is Kubutu dapper open for translations?10:46
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leafwexternal monitor, anyone?10:47
leafwhow to set it up?10:47
leafwthis should be easy ...10:47
leafwsorin_: if you then add Baghira, you have your 'mac' ready.10:48
sorin_neah10:49
sorin_I can shrink the taskbar10:49
sorin_more useful than the apple dock10:49
sorin_it's hard to choose  between kde and gnome. functionality vs simplicity.  though gnome can be prettyfied.10:50
divansantanakde cn b too...10:51
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sorin_kde is pretty enough10:52
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vicksi must say that kubuntu is moving kde to more and more clean style. dapper improves lots of little details10:54
sorin_I'm running dapper.10:54
sorin_I'm waiting for KDE4.10:55
vicksaren't we all10:55
|GuS|Sorin... is there a date set for KDE4 ?10:55
sorin_200710:56
|GuS|Thanks10:56
leafw anyone on how to plug an external monitor10:56
leafwit's not automatically recognized10:56
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sorin_How does one list all processes that are accessing a certain file?10:56
|GuS|i want to see  the Plasma project :)10:56
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|GuS|External monitor?10:57
leafwa slidep projector10:57
leafwin a laptop10:57
leafwdo I have to change the xorg.conf ?10:57
leafwis there an app to autodetect displays?10:57
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|GuS|mmm, wich connector?10:57
leafwVGA10:58
|GuS|and Video board?10:58
leafwwell, digital into VGA ... this is a powerbook10:58
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_brandon_how to i install kget downloader? cause i tryed to use apt-get install kget and it says that there is no package.10:58
|GuS|yes, you must onfigure in xorg... but for every VGA board has its own10:58
|GuS|if i am not wrong...10:58
leafw|GuS|: which means, I'd better find an example10:59
_brandon_how to i install kget downloader? cause i tryed to use apt-get install kget and it says that there is no package.10:59
|GuS|i just know how with nVidia...10:59
|GuS|_brandon_: have you uncommented all repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list?11:01
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_brandon_how to i do that i know how to in gnome but not kde11:01
|GuS|comment-out*11:02
|GuS|is the same brandon11:02
_brandon_kk11:02
leafwI think this baby carries a Gforce11:02
leafwbut I can't even see it11:02
leafwbecause the KDE system settings no longer lists the hardware11:02
|GuS|sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:02
|GuS|ok leafw11:02
|GuS|try lspci11:03
|GuS|and you will see...11:03
|GuS|on VGA compatible controller: line11:03
leafwok11:03
leafwok, an ATI Radeon R250 Lf11:04
|GuS|ok11:05
SpookyETfor some idiotic reason, aptitude is not asking me to insert the ubuntu cd and it is downloading the packages, even though it is added to the apt database.11:05
|GuS|for ati.. thereis a package named atitvout...11:05
leafwnow for the proper xorg11:05
leafwthere is ?11:05
SpookyETapt is driving me nuts.  it only wants /media/cdrom.  Well, i got 3 cdroms, can't it look through all?11:05
|GuS|yep11:05
leafwlet's see it ...11:05
|GuS|Spooky you can see in /etc/fstab11:06
leafwnot for ppc11:06
|GuS|ok leafw11:06
|GuS|you must compile it by yourselft http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/atitvout/11:07
_brandon_kk i uncommented the universe lines11:07
leafwI never thought this could be so hard11:07
leafwshould be automated11:07
|GuS|jeje... ATI is a little sh....11:07
SpookyETSee what in fstab?11:07
|GuS|the conf for the media suff SpookyET...11:08
SpookyETi can access all 3 cdroms11:08
|GuS|time for go home!! bye11:08
SpookyETbut apt is only looking at /media/cdrom11:08
SpookyETnot the other 211:08
Tm_T!botabuse11:09
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.11:09
leafw|Gus|: PPC: No TV-Out on Macs with this tool11:09
robotgeekleafw: is it a ibook?11:09
leafwpowerbook11:09
leafwcan't see the external monitor11:10
leafwany clue?11:10
m0ns00nThe AMD64 system is still crashing with or without amd6411:10
leafwI have an VGA  ATI Radeon11:10
_brandon_thanx gus it worked11:10
robotgeekleafw: okay, svid out will not work11:10
leafwsvid ?11:10
leafwwell, never heard ...11:10
robotgeekleafw: s video?11:10
leafwis it an apt-gettable package ?11:11
m0ns00nhmm11:11
robotgeekleafw: no, it is a connector on the older powerbooks11:11
m0ns00nWhy is kubuntu running the nforce 2 driver with nforce4?11:11
leafwthis is a PB Ti 3.5 1Ghz11:11
leafwwhen it comes to monitors, I have no clue11:12
robotgeekleafw: do you also have a video port which resembles a normal "PC" video out?11:12
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leafwno, no standard VGA, but I have a cable adapter to a VGA11:12
SpookyET What's the command to change betweeen gdm and kdm?11:12
robotgeekleafw: okay, shutdown linux, connect it to the monitor and boot it up11:12
leafwI did so11:12
robotgeekleafw: make sure you close the lid11:13
leafwand also the other way around11:13
leafwthe lid ?11:13
leafwok, shut down, close the lid, reboot ?11:13
robotgeekleafw: yes, reboot, wait for the sound and close the lid11:13
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leafwok11:13
robotgeekSpookyET: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm11:13
leafwI'll try11:13
leafwsee you in a moment11:13
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leafwany further instruction ?11:14
robotgeekleafw: if you get dual monitor working, let me know ;)11:14
leafwxD11:14
leafwok11:14
leafwI'll be back.11:14
SpookyETIt really sucks that Amarok can't index and play from samba shares.11:15
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raveneyetime to lay me head down on both ears... nite all...11:24
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trappistwho said amarok can't index and play from samba shares?11:30
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leafwrobotgeek_away: no way to get the external screen for the PowerBook Ti11:31
leafwand now I have weird antialiased fonts11:32
leafwwhich I don't want11:32
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borelia!flash11:35
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:35
shawn__!java11:37
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:37
shawn__!javadebs11:37
leafw!vga11:39
ubotuleafw: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:39
leafw!monitor11:40
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leafw11:40
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murph2481alright trying to make MP3's using KAudioCreator11:48
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murph2481i get the message The selected encoder was not found.11:48
murph2481any suggestions?11:48
HymnToLife!lame11:49
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife11:49
murph2481!lame11:49
HymnToLifehmm well you certainly have to install lame to encore mp311:49
murph2481where do i get that11:50
murph2481i am not seeing it in synaptic11:50
HymnToLifesudo apt-get install lame :)11:50
HymnToLifehmm11:50
murph2481Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:51
murph2481This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:51
murph2481is only available from another source11:51
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HymnToLifeyou obviously don't have the correct repos11:51
murph2481i haven't changed what came with the dapper flight 311:51
murph2481is there something i should add?11:52
HymnToLifehmm dapper11:52
HymnToLifeyou should go to #ubuntu+1 then11:52
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jjs01hcan't get xorg to do 1920x1280, even though that is this lcd's native resolution. runs at 1600x1200 instead :\11:53
jjs01hi have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail. how can i get the timings for the advanced setup?11:53
gleesondis there a good tool to rip my cd's to ogg11:54
gleesondor mp3 or what ever is the best11:54
murph2481looks like sound-juicer would do it for you11:54
HymnToLifegleesond> abcde11:54
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shawn__kAudioCreator works fine11:54
leafwrobotgeek_away: more on screens: now my 1280x854 screen resolution setting has disappeared11:55
leafweven though it's what it says in the xorg.conf11:55
leafwI don't get it.11:55
leafwand I don't know how to restore it, it lets me put 1280x800, which gives skewed fonts!11:55
yogeH3LL0 .I've just installed ubuntu,Can I download the packages for kubuntu-desktop, burn them on a CD (on another machine) and then install them on the ubuntu machine?11:56
leafwyoge: yes11:56
leafwsee man apt-get11:56
leafwto download only11:56
leafwthen install the *.deb packages with dpkg -i11:56
HymnToLifeyoge> yes though it's not recommended11:56
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yogeHymnToLife :doh! So what's the best choice #apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or #apt-cd cdrom add "kubuntu install cd"11:58
judgenHow do i make Ati remote wonder work in ubuntu?11:59
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HymnToLifeyoge> you can't connect to the internet from your ubuntu machine ?11:59
HymnToLifebetter do from Kubuntu CD then12:00
leafwanyone know how to force a screen resolution, outside System Settings ?12:00
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HymnToLife!resolution12:00
uboturesolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:00
leafwthanks12:00
yogeHymnToLife > it's a really slow connection, and I already have install ubuntu breezy12:00
leafwthe thing is, my xorg.conf already specifies the proper resolution, but the KDE system settings says 1280x800, which is incorrect12:01
leafwshould be 1280x85412:02
HymnToLifeyoge> better install from Kubuntu CD then12:02
leafwso the fonts look weird12:02
ganymed_hallo12:02
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