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| infinity | ~30 mins until LRM is uploaded. | 02:15 |
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| infinity | BenC: Are we going to see updates to all the ipw drivers? (mjg59 has pinged me about the craziness we have to go through to get ipw3945 in) | 02:15 |
| infinity | BenC: I'm pretty keen on the idea that my ipw2915 may actually stop resetting the firmware every 5 seconds (and occasionally hanging the card, just for fun) | 02:16 |
| BenC | yeah, I plan to try | 02:16 |
| BenC | the only showstopper would be any major problems with the ieee80211 update | 02:17 |
| === infinity nods. | ||
| infinity | But that'll be needed for 3945 anyway, which we apparently "ARE SUPPORTING", however painful that is. | 02:17 |
| infinity | Or so I've been told. :) | 02:17 |
| infinity | After unpacking 331MB disk space will be freed. | 02:19 |
| infinity | But I didn't have a bunch of obsolete kernels installed or anything... | 02:20 |
| BenC | openoffice removal? | 02:20 |
| infinity | No, seriously. That was kernels. | 02:20 |
| infinity | Only 4 of them. | 02:20 |
| infinity | -13- -14- -15- and -16- and the matching LRM for each. | 02:20 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, Mark's keen on new Centrinos being supported (even though we have no test hardware) | 02:25 |
| infinity | TBH, I'm pretty keen on it too. | 02:26 |
| infinity | I'd LIKE to get some test hardware before release, but I have a feeling my dreams of a new T60 won't be fulfilled until a few weeks AFTER release, sadly. | 02:26 |
| infinity | Maybe Mark's X60 will come in the mail soon. | 02:26 |
| mjg59 | Haha | 02:26 |
| infinity | Entertainingly, we'll be 0 for 2 on wireless on new Thinkpads right now. | 02:37 |
| infinity | Since, if you order with "Intel Wireless", you'll get a 3945, and if you order "IBM Wireless", you'll get a new Atheros that requires madwifi-ng. | 02:38 |
| BenC | mjg59: Mark ok'd me to expense a PCIE version of the 3945, so I can test it | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | BenC: It's only available in mini-PCIE form-factors, to the best of my knowledge | 02:55 |
| BenC | mini == the 1" long PCIE slot? | 02:55 |
| mroth | FWIW, while I'm not doing any dev for you guys currently, I have a X60 with the 3945 thats supposedly arriving next week, so I can run some tests on it. | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No, one that looks like an so-dimm socket | 02:56 |
| BenC | do you know of any product names with the chipset? | 02:57 |
| infinity | I doubt anyone except Intel makes them. Intel's not known for allowing 3rd party board manufacturers to make shoddy network cards with their chipsets. | 02:58 |
| BenC | nm, google found some for me | 02:58 |
| BenC | yeah, I see that now :) | 02:58 |
| BenC | http://www.dreamhardware.com/store/product/index.php?product_id=500437 | 02:59 |
| BenC | that looks close to what my short PCIE slot looks like | 02:59 |
| BenC | nm, I see what you mean now | 02:59 |
| BenC | it sort of lays into the slot and clicks down | 02:59 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 02:59 |
| mjg59 | It ends up parallel with the motherboard | 03:00 |
| BenC | right | 03:00 |
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| BenC | any chance that make an adapter board that fits a normal PCIE slot and can take the mini-PCIE card? | 03:03 |
| infinity | Ahh, Stimpy, we hardly knew ye. | 03:03 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No idea, I'm afraid | 03:04 |
| BenC | "I told you I was going to shoot, and you didn't believe me...WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?" | 03:04 |
| infinity | My T43 might be mini-PCIe, you could just have it sent to me. | 03:04 |
| infinity | I'd have to crack it open to prove this theory, though. | 03:04 |
| mjg59 | T43 will be mini-PCI | 03:05 |
| infinity | Yeah, so a quick Google tells me. | 03:05 |
| infinity | I knew bits of it were PCIe internally, so it was worth a shot. | 03:05 |
| BenC | crazy...some sells a PCIe serial card with ONE 9pin serial connection | 03:07 |
| BenC | for 90 fucking dollars | 03:07 |
| infinity | Yay progress. | 03:07 |
| BenC | http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=915856 | 03:08 |
| BenC | "High speed UART, up to 230Kbps" | 03:08 |
| infinity | We went from "serial is always onboard", so "if you want a spare port you can get it on an ISA card for 5 bucks", to "make that PCI for 15 bucks", to "a USB dongle for 25 bucks?", and now "PCIe for 90!!" | 03:08 |
| BenC | super duper | 03:09 |
| infinity | s/so/to/ | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | USB's not good enough for debugging | 03:09 |
| BenC | like, PCIE is really adding performance to a 230Kbps serial connection | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | Whereas with PCIE, you can decode legacy addresses and just have stuff outbing | 03:09 |
| infinity | Sure, but is that 90 dollars worth of debugging potential? :) | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | If you've got no other way of debugging the damn thing, probably | 03:10 |
| infinity | I think the answer here is to pick up an old macihne that still has an ISA bus. :) | 03:10 |
| BenC | or by a PCIe mobo with built-in serial | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | And when you're debugging your new PCIE laptop? :) | 03:10 |
| === infinity was rather miffed to discover the lack of serial port on his Thinkpad... | ||
| BenC | mjg59: your laptop has a PCIe slot like a desktop? :) | 03:11 |
| infinity | BenC: If it has built-in serial, it probably has an ISA bus. :) | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | "Microsoft revealed today that it will not support EFI booting for Windows Vista on its launch. The news will be a shock for owners of Intel Macs who had hoped they would be able to dual-boot between Windows Vista and OS X." | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Oh, real PCIE? | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | Fuck that, then | 03:11 |
| infinity | I'm pretty sure my girlfriend's machine still hangs the PS/2 ports, parallel and serial all off a legacy ISA bus stapled to the rest of the system. | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | Well, they'll all be in a superio chip that's probably integrated into the southbridge | 03:12 |
| infinity | (Which consists of an ISA bus, a PCI bridge, and some other goodies, on one chip) | 03:14 |
| BenC | well, I can find mini-PCI-to-PCI adapters, but not PCIE | 03:21 |
| infinity | So, what you need now is a mini-PCIe to mini-PCI bridge, and you're set! | 03:21 |
| BenC | hehe | 03:21 |
| infinity | (Or, find someone who actually has one of these laptops already) | 03:22 |
| infinity | I see them on eBay with next day shipping, oddly enough. | 03:22 |
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| tseng | is there a reason there is a linux-image-amd64-server and not linux-image-amd64-xeon-server? | 02:21 |
| BenC | tseng: yeah, because the higher end supports both configurations | 02:27 |
| tseng | BenC: so which kernel would I ideally be using on a bunch of 2 way HT Xeons with emt64? | 02:28 |
| tseng | adm64-server? | 02:28 |
| BenC | for desktop, xeon, for server, just -server | 02:29 |
| tseng | great, i noticed -xeon had preempt and other desktop weirdness | 02:29 |
| tseng | thanks. | 02:29 |
| BenC | np | 02:29 |
| crimsun | BenC: I can attempt to set up a server, but I don't have access to rookery/people (I don't think so, at least?) | 02:32 |
| crimsun | (lacking a server is pretty much the sole reason I've had to use git-format-patch) | 02:33 |
| crimsun | BenC: two of those messages are awaiting moderation, the huge one for patch_realtek.c and a smaller one for patch_analog.c | 02:35 |
| BenC | ok | 02:37 |
| BenC | crimsun: you are an @ubuntu.com right? | 02:37 |
| BenC | aka a Canonical emplyee? :) | 02:37 |
| crimsun | BenC: because of MOTU, yes | 02:37 |
| crimsun | no, not an Canonical employee | 02:37 |
| BenC | ah, ok | 02:37 |
| BenC | bad assumption on my part then | 02:38 |
| infinity | Tsk. | 02:41 |
| infinity | BenC: Know thy coworkers. | 02:41 |
| infinity | BenC: For instance, I got fired 5 months ago, but I'm sure you didn't know. | 02:41 |
| tseng | infinity: he needs to play the distro team game | 02:42 |
| BenC | lol | 02:49 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:47 |
| crimsun | heya | 03:47 |
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| netzmeister | hello | 05:21 |
| netzmeister | where is my "/proc/config.gz" ? | 05:21 |
| netzmeister | or where can i find my actual kernel config to build a newone.. | 05:21 |
| mjg59 | /boot/config-`uname -r`.gz | 05:22 |
| mjg59 | Sorry, no .gz | 05:22 |
| netzmeister | yes, at this moment i found it.. o_O | 05:22 |
| netzmeister | thx | 05:22 |
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| dilinger | hm | 06:39 |
| dilinger | Called the General Parallel File System (GPFS), the technology allows for high-speed access to files across multiple nodes of a Linux or AIX cluster. | 06:39 |
| === dilinger wonders if it's Free | ||
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| torkel | dilinger: it's not free | 07:46 |
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| jbailey | Anyone here played with Xen? I'm wondering if it's possible to expose that we're in a Xen guest through a HWCAP. | 10:46 |
| jbailey | I've been thinking that we could, with Dapper+1 provide a Xen-safe glibc that doesn't do the slow TLS accesses. | 10:46 |
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