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hali install them, and no change happens12:00
halalso i'm looking for a good codec pack12:00
sinaduelokay, I need a dvd ripping program that rips quickly, and properly. There must be such program otherwise, linux would not be so much better than woindows12:00
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Howdy125dvdrip .. but it's not super fast ..12:00
halanyone have some ideas?12:01
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meushignite12:01
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iosapokryfe ellhnas eisai???12:01
Mikusssbonsoir tt le monde12:02
MacSlowDoes anybody know now one can record sound (voice via the mic) under normal Gnome?12:02
ompaul!fr12:02
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:02
ufosinaduel, you could try lxdvdrip12:02
ompaulMacSlow, audicity and make sure you have all devices turnned on use alsamixer to make sure that volumes are up and you turn the volume up in the application12:03
MacSlowI can hear my voice alright (via this "echo") in the headphone, but e.g. using gnome-sound-recorder everything I record is just complete silence.12:03
djm62MacSlow: Main Menu->Sound and Video->Sound Recorder12:03
sinaduelokay12:03
ompaulMacSlow, audacity  sorry spelt it wrong12:03
djm62MacSlow: alsamixer to check the settings, then12:03
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iosI would like to furnish licq however I cannot not an account add. It can help possibly man me??12:03
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MacSlowompaul, trying audacity (apt-getting)12:04
sinaduelwhere do you find lxdvdrip12:04
MacSlowdjm62, hm... damn alsamixer gives ma a bunch of errors12:05
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ufosinaduel, http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lxdvdrip/12:05
ompaulMacSlow, used it for this http://www.archive.org/details/DRM_Nightmare_with_mad_laugh so it works - but make sure you have the volume in the app turned up12:05
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Viper_0Enthusiast78,  nothing12:06
Viper_0:|12:06
gimmulfHi, is there any good software if i want to resize 200 .bmp images12:06
gimmulfdoing it manually in gimp feels gay :)12:06
ompaul!gay12:07
ompaul!+gay12:07
uboturumour has it, gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?12:07
kdittyim still having trouble with the netowrk configuration, is there a way to start from scratch? the live cd configuration tool sets my network up perfect but the install cd didnt12:07
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LjLgimmulf: imagemagick, graphicsmagick, netpbm12:07
Enthusiast78Viper_0, Sorry but I think you better set up apache as well and put that file under your document root... :o/12:07
Pappankditty what is the problem u r having ?12:07
ompaulgimmulf, you can script gimp to do the work - never done it myself12:07
MacSlowompaul, hm... I get the error "host error" for the initialization of the audio I/O-layer :/12:07
gimmulfoki12:07
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gimmulfthanks12:07
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ompaulMacSlow, okay first off have you any  music playing ability?12:08
Enthusiast78where do I put the wallpapers I download from www.gnome-look.org so that they're available to all users?12:08
Enthusiast78I believe it's under /usr/share/somewhere, maybe...12:08
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djm62gimmulf: man convert12:08
MacSlowompaul, sure all audio-related stuff works (xmms, rhythmbox, totem etc) so playback is ok12:08
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kdittypappan, im on ubuntu live cd right now, and i can connect to the internet. so i installed 5.10 because i like this distro. well when i log on through normal boot mode to the ubuntu 5.10 thats on my harddrive, i cant connect to my network12:09
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Makuradjm62: On the Nvidia site, what OS choice do I choose to download drivers for?12:09
gimmulfdjm62:  No manual entry for convert12:09
Viper_0Enthusiast78, i can't move the file because it uses another files, from diferent locations12:09
djm62Makura: um... that's a matter for the wiki I feel12:09
Makuradjm62: Okay, sorry =P12:09
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kdittyall i need to to share internet connection for right now, that will be fine with me until i get more used to linux, but it doesnt pick my network up when i run the shell thats on my harddisc, only when i run the live cd12:09
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Viper_0Enthusiast78, how can i change the webserver from /var/www to /12:10
ompaulMacSlow, have you used alsamixer to turn on the mic and other stuff?12:10
Viper_0?12:10
Enthusiast78Viper_0, You could try setting documentroot to that directory12:10
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Enthusiast78Viper_0, I guess you'll have to edit httpd.conf and set DocumentRoot and the related Directory entries to the directory you want instead.12:10
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__Lamont__Any Samba experts here?12:11
djm62Makura: I don't have any nvidia stuff, other people here might be able to help you12:11
Viper_0Enthusiast78, i will try12:11
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ompaulMacSlow, to test your sound do this : System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Preferences Selector; after that press on the Top test First .. then you should hear a tone12:11
ompaulMacSlow, is this the case12:11
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djm62gimmulf: sudo aptitude install imagemagick12:11
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MacSlowompaul, wait, wait :) check out this http://en.pastebin.ca/4506912:11
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durgalooking for an alternative to amarok..any ideas ?12:12
ompaulMacSlow, have you started Multimedia Prefrences Selector12:12
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__Lamont__I'm setting up a replacement samba server... existing one allows any user on a windows box to open all shares without passwords or prompts... I'd like to have a single share that does require a password, ideally from all clients, but I can't figure out how12:12
MacSlowompaul, btw... I'm on dapper and don't ahve that in my System/Preferences menu12:12
Enthusiast78Viper_0, Good luck! :o)12:12
ompaulMacSlow, so go to the channel #ubuntu+1 that is where that gets discussed12:13
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MacSlowompaul, the closest thing I have is System/Preferences/Audio (german here btw)12:13
ompaulMacSlow, /join #ubuntu+112:13
Makuradjm62: How do I know whether I am running the 386 kernel or 686?12:14
LjLMakura: uname -r12:14
bimberiMakura: uname -r12:14
MakuraThanks!12:14
sinaduelhow do I install12:14
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sinadueltgz files?12:14
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me2winsinaduel, those are archive files12:15
Jarigohey im havin trouble with smb4k12:15
LjLsinaduel: tgz files are simply compressed archives, much like ".zip" files. you don't actually install them12:15
maruchanstupid question is there shortcut to move through the desktops12:15
Jarigosmb4k_mount12:15
Jarigoum12:15
Jarigo#12:15
sinaduelokay12:15
LjLsinaduel: you can *extract* them. then, if they contain a program that can be installed, you should read the instructions that come with it12:15
djm62maruchan: ctrl-alt-leftarrow12:15
Jarigosmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?12:15
maruchanthx12:15
djm62sinaduel: what, in high-level terms, are you trying to do?12:15
LjLsinaduel: to extract them, you should be able to just double-click on them. otherwise, "tar xf filename.tar.gz"12:16
sinaduelI am trying to install lxdvdrip to my computer12:16
Jarigosmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?12:16
sinadueldid does not have a how-to file12:17
LjLsinaduel: doesn't it contain an INSTALL and/or a README file?12:17
sinaduelno12:17
LjLsinaduel: does it contain a file named "configure"?12:17
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sinadueloh, it has a readme file....but it is in german12:18
venoxhey12:18
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djm62sinaduel: type 'make' in that directory12:19
richie_Hey guys.  I need help removing an entry on the GNOME panel under Places.  How do I do it?12:19
blankyHello guys12:19
blankyhow is everyone doing12:19
sinaduelI found the english readme, I will follow it until I get stuck, so thankyou for your help12:19
blankyI'd just like to know if anyone here has ever used nasm12:19
Jarigosmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?12:20
venoxI got ubuntu livecd working nicely, but I'm having trouble with the localized language I've selected while booting it. I've selected brazilian portuguese, but just few things are in portuguese, most of the system is in english. is this a WIP or something? or will it be entirely in portuguese when I install it to my hdd? (I'm using ubuntu 5.10)12:20
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rantakrichie: open nautilus and edit bookmarks12:20
knvinh__has anyone try to run 2 X-Windows in one machine?12:20
knvinh__just a question :D12:21
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__Lamont__Jarigo: Did you search online for info on how to do that? I don't know much of anything, but I do recall seeing a comment pertaining to allowing non-root users to mount things12:21
me2winknvinh__, what do you mean?12:21
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Jarigoyea i tried still not working12:21
__Lamont__Jarigo: What did you try?12:22
Jarigochown -v root smbmnt; chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt12:22
redguycat /dev/random /dev/dsp12:22
knvinh__me2win: I mean that how to run both KDE , GNOME concurrently? just a question12:23
djm62knvinh__: yeah, I used to do so12:23
venoxso. nobody knows anything about the ubuntu translations? :P12:23
CrazyOnei have a fujifilm camera, and when I try to mount it to take images I am getting an error about etc/fstab12:23
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redguyoops12:23
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me2winknvinh__, i have gnome, kde, and xfce all on my computer12:23
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knvinh__me2win: can you start GNOME while you are running KDE?12:23
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me2winknvinh__, not that im aware of...12:24
__Lamont__Jarigo: Won't that just change the permissions on the smbmount, as opposed to changing what user it runs as?12:24
CrazyOneanybody know what the problem could be?  exact error "Warning: device /dev/sdf1 is already handled by /etc/fstab"12:24
Jarigothat what it said to do __Lamont__12:24
me2winCrazyOne, are you trying to mount something that has already been mounted?12:24
knvinh__me2win: I am wondering wether it is possible12:24
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djm62CrazyOne: that's not an error, it's a warning12:24
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CrazyOneme2win I dont think so, all I did was connect my camera, switch it on and I get that12:24
me2winhmm12:25
CrazyOnedjm62 I still cant access the camera, tells me it cannout mount device12:25
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jorge_wassup guys12:25
jorge_hello12:25
jorge_:)12:25
LjLthe sky12:25
__Lamont__Jarigo: What do you want the user to be able to do, specifically?12:25
jorge_it's me blanky hehe just testing out the irssi stuff, pretty neat12:25
Jarigoim trying to mount a folder __Lamont__12:26
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Jarigoand i get this error12:26
CrazyOneok there is another line "Captive-ERROR **: image_iochannel failed open of: /dev/sdf1"12:26
LjLLamount?12:26
Jarigosmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)12:26
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__Lamont__Are you trying from a shell?12:26
Jarigono12:27
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__Lamont__What is running your mount attempt command?12:28
aguthrieI get an error about not being able to load the human theme because it couldn't recognize the file format for /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/background.png.12:28
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dan_ohh12:28
dan_hi12:28
CrazyOneanybody? :\12:28
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aguthrieI cannot use the "alternate" login thing either. everything is grayed out.12:28
aguthrieincluding the box where I enter my username, and the ok/cancel buttons.12:28
dan_I have installed, configured, experimented, and loved ubuntu12:28
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dan_:)12:29
IdleOnedan_>  :)12:29
aguthriedan_: glad to hear...12:29
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Jalalhey12:29
shivhow do u start programs in Wine? I installed wine and now also installed program. It shows me correct paths and all that. Now how do I run it?12:29
IdleOnehey12:29
aguthriebackground.png: PNG image data, 1600 x 1200, 8-bit/color RGB, interlaced12:29
aguthriethat looks ok to me...12:29
aguthrieshiv: winex <program> iirc.12:30
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IdleOneshiv>  in terminal cd to the directory where the .exe is then type wine programname.exe12:30
Jalali just tried to read some files from my floppy drive and it didn't work, said it wasn't mounted. So i typ;ed mount /media/floppy in the terminal and it gave me an "I could not determine the filesystem type"12:30
Aaron_Mason!opengl12:30
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason12:30
JalalMajed, where are you from?12:30
__Lamont__Jarigo: I just started with Ubuntu but I am able to make mount -t smbfs work (though I run it as root from a shell)12:30
knvinh__me2win: Ok , i found the answer : startx -- :<displaynumber>12:30
MajedJalal lebanon12:30
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Majedu ?12:30
slideDoes anyone know of something like quicken for gnome? Or has anyone gotten quicken to work, maybe in wine?12:30
JalalSyria12:30
Jalalmy bro's name is Majd :)12:31
Jarigonvm __Lamont__  fixed it12:31
knvinh__me2win: 2 KDEs in one comp :D12:31
aguthrieslide: there is an open-souce program, but the name is escaping me atm.12:31
MajedJalal well greetings ya jar :)12:31
Aaron_Masondoes anybody know what package has the file /usr/include/GL/glu.h?12:31
Jarigotheres super user option12:31
dan_I am from Pakistan12:31
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Majedoh that's ncie12:31
Jalalhaha12:31
Jarigogoin now thanks12:31
Jarigocya12:31
Jalalyeah12:31
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Majedbye12:31
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slideaguthrie, im using 'KMyMoney' but it well, isnt that great (not to mention its kde! ugh)12:31
MajedGreetings guys12:31
aguthrieslide: there's another one...12:31
__Lamont__Any Samba experts here?12:32
aguthrieslide: I recently saw it mentioned on slashdot.12:32
Majedumm can anyone plz help me ( patience is a must :P im a newbie)12:32
slideaguthrie, ok thanks ill search there12:32
IdleOneMajed>  ask away if someone can help they will :)12:32
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Jalali just tried to read some files from my floppy drive and it didn't work, said it wasn't mounted. So i typ;ed mount /media/floppy in the terminal and it gave me an "I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"12:33
Majedoh i thought we shouldn't prv ppl :)12:33
IdleOneMajed>  ask in here12:33
HymnToLifeJalal> which FS is your flopppy formatted in ?12:33
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MajedIdleOne ic :)12:34
JalalHymnToLife, I dont' really know what you mean but i took the floopy out of the case, plugged it into my win xp machine, put some files on it, tryin to read them in linux12:34
__Lamont__#12:34
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Jalaloh, forgot to mention i'm a noob :)12:34
HymnToLifehmmm that's weir12:34
IdleOneJalal>  what kind of files?12:34
Jalalthe box says they'r IBM formatted if that helps12:35
HymnToLifeyour floppy should be eithe FAT or NTFS if you could write on it from xp12:35
JalalIdleOne, just a couple of .txt files12:35
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IdleOne.txt shouldnt be a problem12:35
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Majedwell i want to get access as root however i don't know the password, coz i think that ubunto do not prompt u to add a password for root during the instalations. i think there is a command for the shell to change/set the pass, anyone knows it ?12:35
LjLHymnToLife: does windows llow ntfs formatting for floppies?12:35
jon_sudo passwd12:35
IdleOneMajed>  root is locked in ubuntu12:35
LjL!tell Majed about root12:35
moeppelMajed: use sudo12:36
LjLjon_: don't advice doing that please12:36
Howdy125yup ..12:36
HymnToLifedunno12:36
jon_LjL, Fair enough.  I did it at home to just have a root password that I know and can use.12:36
HymnToLifeit's been a while since I used floppies12:36
Majedmoeppel sudo that's it :D bad memory i have :P thanks12:36
Jalalyeah same here12:36
moeppelnp ;)12:36
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LjLjon_: but it can cause a couple of problems. also, what's wrong with sudo?12:36
HymnToLifejalal > try mount -t vfat /media/floppy12:37
jon_LjL, I use sudo for basically everything, but I like having my own root password.12:37
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Jalalwould it be a problem if i formatted the disk in FAT?12:37
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IdleOneJalal>  that should work12:37
dan_how do I install programs from a .rpm archive?12:37
HymnToLifeI think if's aready in FAT12:38
IdleOnedan_>  you dont12:38
dan_I am trying to install real player for linux12:38
LjLjon_: i see - well it's your choice, but when someone comes in with no clue about the way ubuntu handles root, please point them to !sudoroot or !root ... if they still want to have a "real" root password, they'll ask12:38
blanky!realplayer12:38
ubotuit has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:38
jon_LjL, Gotcha. ;)12:38
IdleOne!tell dadn about realplayer12:38
HymnToLifedan you can get a deb for it12:38
JalalHymnToLife, that gave me a list of flags i can use, but i have no idea what to do12:38
dan_deb?12:38
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IdleOneubuntu is debian based so it usus .deb12:38
LjLdan_: Ubuntu doesn't use RPMs, it uses DEBs.12:38
moeppeldan why do you want the realplayer? you can use mplayer or totem for everything12:39
dollarhow can i login as root to kde //12:39
dan_ok12:39
jannovwhy i cant exit from game Racer, when i bouncing ESC key, i cant go back to game menu simply12:39
dan_ok12:39
HymnToLifedollar> you don't12:39
HymnToLifeuse sudo for heaven's sake !12:39
dollarHymnToLife, I do..12:39
polpak^^ what he said12:39
LjLdan_: also, while you can install a DEB manually (might be the case with real player), you usually use the APT system, which downloads, install and solves dependencies automatically12:39
dollarI need it..12:39
dollarHow can I do it ?12:39
polpakdollar, why?12:39
IdleOnewhat is so special about root?12:39
HymnToLifewhy do people always want to login as root ?12:39
naliothdollar: you can't.   /msg ubotu root12:39
moeppelIdleOne: he's mighty ;)12:40
larsemildollar, sudo su-12:40
dan_LjL, for that i will have to use ADD APPLICATIONS interface? right?12:40
dollari think it's my pc guys ?12:40
JalalDon't know if it helps, but it also says "Warning: device /dev/fd0 is already handled by /etc/fstab.12:40
dollarcan you help me ornot?12:40
IdleOnemoeppel>  sudo is just as mighty12:40
moeppelhehe :P12:40
LjLdan_: that is a very simplified interface, which only allows installing few programs12:40
HymnToLifeyes, better us synaptic12:40
IdleOnedollar>  we told you you cant login as root not cuase we dont wantyou to but because you cant12:40
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LjLdan_: you should either use apt-get (as explained by Ubotu), or Synaptic, which is a graphical interface (Ubotu will tell you about it now)12:40
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polpakdollar, we can, but we want to know why you'd want to do such a thing. Your question belies a fundamental misunderstanding about how things work12:40
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dollarI used to do it before.. but I forgot how, some guy helped me out12:41
dan_LjL, great :)12:41
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khafraI installed a "kernel headers" package and ended up with two directories, linux-headers-2.6.12-10, and linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386.  How does one determine which one is, so to speak, the real slim shady?12:41
LjLdan_: also, right now, you only have access to 5000 programs or so. you'd probably like to also have access to another 12000 programs that are available. the bot will tell you how to do that, as well12:41
larsemildollar, as i said. sudo su - gives u root12:41
dollarlarsemil,  i know that.12:41
crimsunkhafra: it's the latter12:41
ompaul!tell dollar about root12:41
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khafracrimsun: Thanks!12:42
dan_LjL,  My goodness12:42
naliothlarsemil: please don't advise that, you'll break parts of ubuntu that way12:42
crimsunkhafra: the former holds base; the latter extends it specifically for your current kernel12:42
polpakdollar, can you explain why it is so vitally necessary?12:42
dan_how do I know which programs are best for my ubuntu?12:42
ompauldollar, wat you want is toward the bottom of that page and it is not a good thing to do as you suggest but like they say - have it your way12:42
crimsunkhafra: the rule of thumb is always to use linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:42
LjLlarsemil: "sudo -i" should be used for root access12:42
crimsunkhafra: and as you can see, $(uname -r) will point you to the correct one12:42
LjLdan_: what do you mean "best"?12:42
dan_LjL,  I have totem but i dont like it12:42
nalioth!headers12:42
ubotuTo install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:42
khafracrimsun: And now you've taught me how to fish, double thanks12:42
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larsemilnalioth, as he says, its his computer - if he asks, he will recieve an answer. i am not much for cencur12:42
LjLdan_: well, you'll mostly have to try them out12:42
dan_LjL,  I want to know what most people use and prefer you know what i mean?12:43
Theronhow do i setup 2 monitors and have the desktop span across both monitors?  I googled for specifac info, and am unable to find anything yet.12:43
LjLdan_: what's "best" is a matter of opinions12:43
naliothlarsemil: no need to censor, sudo will do anything one needs as superuser12:43
dan_yeah right12:43
polpakTherion, what kind of video card?12:43
HymnToLifedan_ > VLC for me :)12:43
dollarHow can I open my other NTFS partitions? with nautilus even if im not root ?12:43
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Theronits an nvidia12:43
naliothlarsemil: education is necessary.12:43
HymnToLife!tell dolllar about ntfs12:43
larsemilnalioth, i know that. but that was not an answer for his question. now off to bed.12:43
dan_VLC ??12:43
LordMelkorwhen i change permissions for a folder or file12:43
LordMelkorwhat is12:43
LjLdan_: most well-known programs for watching videos are, besides the one shipped with ubuntu, mplayer and vlc12:43
LordMelkorGroup12:43
naliothdollar: if you can't open your partitions, being root aint gonna help you12:43
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polpakdollar, they have to be mounted12:43
aguthriehow do I start gdm from a vterm?12:44
dollarpolpak,  how can I mount them ?12:44
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> it's the second level of permissions12:44
larsemildollar, umask=222 in fstab i think12:44
LjLaguthrie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:44
dan_I mean this is really great12:44
HymnToLifeyou have three (owner, group, world) for basically anything12:44
polpak!tell dollar about ntfs12:44
aguthrieLjL: thanks.12:44
LordMelkorcan i make my current account a "Group"12:44
HymnToLifeand you can specify different permissions for each12:44
IdleOne!tell dollar  about mount12:44
polpakdollar, read the guide ubotu sent you12:44
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> yes, each time a user is created, a group with the same name is also created12:45
LjLLordMelkor: no, users are a separate thing from group. what are you trying to accomplish?12:45
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polpakLordMelkor, a group is intended to give permissions for a set of users12:45
eletidowhere do i get the build-esstentials package?12:45
LjLeletido: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"12:45
polpakeletido, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:45
moeppelthis channel is definitely too crowded :812:45
IdleOneeletido>  sudo apt-get install build-essential12:45
LordMelkorcan i grant that permission to myself what i am doing is that im open permissions for my firefox plugins folder12:45
Theronany ideas polpak12:45
LordMelkorto my current account12:45
HymnToLifemoeppel> have a trip on #debian12:45
HymnToLifeyou'll see a crowded channel :p12:46
LjLmoeppel: it is, but we do try to answer questions.12:46
eletidohmm, cant find the package12:46
eletidothats odd.12:46
polpakTherion, you need to first install the nvidia driver12:46
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LordMelkorbut i dont want to leave a security hole by enabling it to everyone12:46
TheronI did that12:46
polpakTheron, or rather12:46
LjLeletido: "build-essential", not "build-essentials"12:46
IdleOnetell eletido  about repositories12:46
Therionpolpak: No I don't. ;)12:46
polpakTheron, oh, then you should be able to set your TwinView settings12:46
moeppelLjl> i see :)12:46
polpakTherion, yeah, sorry =o12:46
Theronpolpak, using nvidia settings right?12:46
dollarmount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /ntfs1 busy12:46
dollarmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda112:46
polpakTheron, yeah, I believe so12:46
LjLLordMelkor: uh, just set the files you want to be able to access as owned by your user, and give no permissions to others12:47
eletidohmm, nvm. i need to learn how to spell. thanks for the help12:47
polpakdollar, ok, then you should be able to access it12:47
aguthrieLjL: that does not appear to be doing anything. it seems that gdm didn't start when ubuntu did.12:47
sHaDen8 all12:47
dollar polpak  i cant..12:47
polpakdollar, as your normal user?12:47
LjLaguthrie: can you start X using "startx"?12:47
dollarpolpak,  yes12:47
aguthrieLjL: one sec.12:47
LordMelkorLjL i need root to access it though, can root access anyones stuff?12:47
eletido!build-essentail12:47
ubotueletido: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:47
LjLLordMelkor: yes12:47
LordMelkorkk12:48
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dollar I cant even see the ntfs drives in media;/12:48
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aguthrieLjL: maybe `sudo startx'?12:48
polpakdollar, ls -al /media doesn't list anything?12:48
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HymnToLifedollar > have you followed ubotu's link ?12:48
Theronpolpak, ok... nvidia settings only see's crt012:48
HymnToLife!ntfs12:48
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:48
LjLaguthrie: uhm, no, should be just startx12:48
dollaryes12:48
Theronpolpak, the second one isn't listed.12:48
dollarpolpak,12:48
dollardollar@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/hda1 /ntfs112:48
dollarmount: you must specify the filesystem type12:48
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polpakHymnToLife, it's mounted. he just can't access it. Probably due to permissions12:48
aguthrieLjL: can you go to #flood?12:48
HymnToLifepolpak> I'm quie sure it's explained how to change it12:49
dollarpolpak, it does..12:49
HymnToLifeI might be wrong though12:49
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dollarpolpak, but all of  them are root root12:49
polpakdollar, that's not the right mount command12:49
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starla/close12:49
starlaoops12:49
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LordMelkorggkkthxbai12:49
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Theronpolpak,  I will work on it some more later.  ty for your help though.  gotta run12:50
eletidois there a keyboard shortcut that changes the current workspace?12:50
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cfkwow - using Gaim for IRC is going to confuse the people that need to get here12:50
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dollarpolpak, Couldn't change the permissions of "hda1" because it is on a read-only disk12:51
Kr4t05!pastebin12:51
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)12:51
blanky!ati12:51
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:51
polpakdollar, you need to sudo umount /dev/hda112:51
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blankyhey guys, since ATI made 'useable' and good drivers now ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ), should I use those over the ubuntu provided? I think they'd be newer, right?12:52
ufo!ati12:52
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:52
ufoblanky, use the last thread12:52
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RichardCsince ubuntu 5.04 works on my computer, would it be faster to install from the 5.04 cd i already have, and then upgrade to 5.10, or would it be faster to download the 5.10 iso at 100kb/s and then install?12:52
blankyokay...even though I did that just now12:53
dollarpolpak,  it's still not working12:53
polpakdollar, umount didn't work?12:53
adam_hello, I use dapper but openoffice.org doesn't install >:|12:53
dollarpolpak, it did12:53
adam_very weird >_>12:53
dollarpolpak, but i cant see anything in it now12:53
adam_The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:53
adam_  openoffice.org-l10n-en-us: Conflicts: openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us12:53
adam_  openoffice.org2-writer: Depends: python-uno (> 2.0.1) but it is not going to be installed12:53
adam_E: Broken packages12:53
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polpakdollar, that's fine12:53
dan_alrite12:53
polpakdollar, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?12:53
cameronhubuntu only managed to install to command line, what command would i now run to install gnome/gdm/X etc.12:54
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cfkthanks blanky - I was about to ask "how .. ati?"12:54
dollaryeah12:54
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dollarjust a secx12:54
dan_how do I get the latest version of firefox on ubuntu installed again12:54
blankyufo, my question was if I should use ATI's or ubuntu's12:54
dollarsex*12:54
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dan_I'll admit it, I suck at linux so far12:54
naliothRichardC: you'll end up with the same software12:54
dan_haha12:54
Kr4t05I'm getting a dependancy error when I compile.12:54
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Seveas!tell Kr4t05 about compiling12:54
chrisw69can anyone tell me how to put c/c++ on my ubuntu linux?12:54
RichardCnalioth: yup, that's why im wonder which is faster12:54
cjdan_: it's okay.  we were all there at one point... some might argue that we're still there :)12:54
Seveas!tell chrisw69 about compiling12:54
blankyand yes cfk, ATI is improving their drivers12:54
rob_is there a way to access the itunes music store in ubuntu?12:54
polpakchrisw69, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:54
slideaguthrie, are you thinking of GnuCash? b/c it sucks even worse heh12:54
naliothRichardC: the 5.04 cd will be faster probably, cuz  ya won't have to download everything12:54
cfkso the fglrx driver isn't going to work with my: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS ?12:55
DarthVaderi need please new source.list where i find this?12:55
chrisw69thx12:55
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polpak!sources12:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:55
Seveas!tell DarthVader about repos12:55
aguthrieslide: maybe... that doesn't sound right, though.12:55
RichardCnalioth: alright12:55
DarthVaderyes12:55
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Kr4t05Seveas: Yeah, but, when I try to get the needed packages, it says they are current12:55
dollarpolpak, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=5892212:55
rob_is there a way to access the itunes music store in ubuntu?12:55
Kr4t05http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/993412:55
dollarpolpak, all I need to do is write and read hda1 and hd6 when imlogged in as normal usr12:56
HymnToLife!itunes12:56
ubotu[itunes]  a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.12:56
SeveasKr4t05, you need the -dev packages - see that wikipage12:56
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Kr4t05Seveas, I know how to compile.12:56
DarthVaderwhere i find new repos (source.list)?12:56
polpakdollar, writing to ntfs partitions is not allowed12:56
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LjL!tell DarthVader about repos12:56
rob_thank you12:56
SeveasKr4t05, apparently not, otherwise you wouldn't be asking...12:56
polpakdollar, the driver doesn't support it12:56
Kr4t05Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/993412:56
dollarpolpak, can I read as normal user/ and how can I do it?12:56
Kr4t05Seveas, read that, smart-ass12:56
slideaguthrie, cbb, QHacc, Moneydance or gAcc?12:56
polpakdollar, yep12:56
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matt_whats the command to install jave run time environment in ubuntu?12:57
SeveasKr4t05, watch your language12:57
polpakdollar, you need to sudo gedit /etc/fstab12:57
Seveas!tell matt_ about java12:57
matt_i looked on the sun website and its a .bin file12:57
naliothKr4t05: there is no need for that attitude12:57
Kr4t05Seveas, yes, sir.12:57
dollarpolpak, and what do i change ?12:57
rob_!ati12:57
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:57
SeveasKr4t05, and read that wikipage - it explains it all..12:57
Kr4t05nalioth: I just don't appreciate being treated like a noob12:57
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Genfoowhat do I need to go to install openoffice.org on dapper?12:57
LjLKr4t05: you gotta install libglib1.2-dev12:57
matt_sorry didn't even think about looking at the help..... some times my figers start typing before i start thinking12:57
LjL!tell Kr4t05 about compile12:57
SeveasKr4t05, if you act like one you're treated like one12:58
ompaulKr4t05, and I don't like bad language12:58
rob_HymnToLife, i did the apt-get for sharpmusiqu, what repository would it likely be in12:58
naliothKr4t05: seveas treats us all like newbs, why should you be different?12:58
Genfoo:o just read the topic12:58
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ompaulKr4t05, or name calling ..12:58
aguthrieslide: honestly, I can't remember. :P I think I may have it bookmarked, but I am not in the condition to be able to access those right now. :|12:58
HymnToLifedunnoI've never used it12:58
slideheh k12:58
Genfoosorry Seveas for flooding :(12:58
LjLKr4t05: sorry, but if you don't know that to compile stuff you need *dev* packages and not the plain binary packages, you are... well perhaps not a newbie, dunno, but you don't know that much.12:58
dollarpolpak, what do I need to change?12:58
polpakdollar, you need to change the option for those entries12:58
Kr4t05Well, I guess I'm not worth the time or effort.12:58
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polpakdollar, from default12:58
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dollarpolpak, I have no idea how to do that12:59
LordMelkormy XV outputs are always really dark is there anyway i can increase the brightness/gamma of the XV output withouht manually adjusting varius players everytime i play something?12:59
Seveassigh12:59
Seveassome people are beyond help12:59
rob_!key12:59
uboturob_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:59
chrisw69can anyone tell me why my music files aren't playing btw?12:59
LordMelkorwould that be me?12:59
ompaulfy-msg12:59
chrisw69THey are mp3 files and says unrecognised media12:59
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ompaulfy-msg12:59
Seveasompaul, ?01:00
polpakdollar, change it to ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=000001:00
ryan_ishereI GOT NO SOUND?!!?01:00
LordMelkorSeveas: you werent refering to me were you?01:00
ryan_isherewell on my mplayer01:00
Seveasryan_ishere, drop the caps01:00
polpakdollar, instead of default01:00
ompaulSeveas, issue with editor01:00
ompaul:/01:00
SeveasLordMelkor, not at all01:00
naliothhe's trying to run a command, Seveas01:00
dollarok01:00
naliothtrying for world domination, ompaul is01:00
DarthVaderhelp, i need a new source.list for my apt01:00
DarthVader?01:00
polpakdollar, before you save, pastebin the file01:00
LjLSeveas: if he wasn't blinded by the anger, perhaps he'd have tried my suggestion to install libglib1.2-dev. i'm quite sure it would have worked......01:00
polpakdollar, so I can check it01:00
ryan_ishereanyone got a fix01:00
polpak!tell DarthVader about sources01:01
SeveasLjL, so am I01:01
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Seveasbut if he doesn't even bother to read a wikipage I consider him beyond help01:01
LordMelkorryan_ishere try checking what is selected for you sound modules01:01
LordMelkorin mplayer01:01
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ryan_isherehow do i do that?01:01
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LordMelkorryan_ishere click configure01:01
LordMelkorthen audio01:01
dollarok01:01
dollarjust a second polpak01:02
ryan_isherewhere is configure?01:02
Genfooryan_ishere, in .01:02
LordMelkorthe wrench picture01:02
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TweedHello all, can anybody give me a pointer as to how to get the network panel to appear - running on a laptop and networking didn't auto configure when I installed .. now the network gui refuses to appear01:02
SeveasGenfoo, no, different context ;)01:02
dollarpolpak, http://pastebin.com/59357101:02
Kr4t05Seveas: I'd like to apologize.01:02
dollaris that correct?01:02
HymnToLifeTweed> gksudo network-admin01:02
ryan_isherewhat should it say as my output?01:02
LordMelkormy XV outputs are always really dark is there anyway i can increase the brightness/gamma of the XV output withouht manually adjusting varius players everytime i play something? (i know i already wrote this but new people have joined :D)01:02
chrisw69can anyone help me? I want to play mp3's on here but I keep getting the error unrecognised media01:03
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lafferpthello01:03
LordMelkorryan_ishere: if your current selection doesnt work try something else01:03
HymnToLife!mp301:03
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:03
LordMelkorlike OSS01:03
lafferptdoes anyone has installed qmail?01:03
LordMelkoror ALSA01:03
Kr4t05Seveas: I acted like a n00b. And hence I got treated like one, and then, got offended. I'm sorry.01:03
ryan_isherei have a problem with the video on Mplayer too should i try to fix it in video configure list?01:04
Jalali have a laptop that's hooked up to the internet through wireless...is there a way to get internet on my desktop through my laptop?01:04
LordMelkorsure01:04
Tweedgksudo network admin appears to do nothing at all01:04
ryan_isheremplayer just crashed01:04
ryan_ishereas nice as ubuntu is it can fuckin suck sometimes01:04
LordMelkorthen open it and try again01:04
dollarpolpak, is it correct ?01:04
Kr4t05Does anyone know how I down-grade XMMS to 1.2.7?01:04
HymnToLifetry 'network-admin' ;)01:04
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Seveasryan_ishere, please watch your language in here01:05
ryan_isheresorry01:05
GenfooKr4t05, why would you downgrade?01:05
Seveaswe try to keep this channel somewhat family friendly01:05
LordMelkorryan_ishere i recommend you use VLC from the VideoLan nightlies page01:05
LordMelkormplayer is really unstable01:05
ryan_ishereim just in a bad mood and this isnt helping01:05
Kr4t05Genfoo: I need to for a plugin.01:05
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ryan_isherevlc?01:05
Kr4t05Genfoo: I need to get it to broadcast to a shout-cast server.01:05
LordMelkora different media player01:05
ryan_ishereis it in the repos?01:05
Toadstoolhi01:06
HymnToLifeyes but the repos version lacks MKV support01:06
GenfooKr4t05, bah. there must be something better01:06
LordMelkoryes but the version available from the nightlies page is better01:06
Kr4t05Genfoo: Googline again.01:06
Toadstoolryan_ishere: yeah vlc is in universe but breezy version sucks01:06
ryan_isherenightlies.com?01:06
LordMelkorno01:06
GenfooKr4t05, whatever. anyway, check out www.xmms.org tarballs of old releases01:06
LordMelkorryan_ishere: google serach vlc nightlies01:06
Genfoothen compile it yourself, I doubt that ubuntu folks would keep ancient releases01:06
nalioth !vlc01:06
ubotuvlc is probably a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)01:06
ryan_ishereoh ok ill be back in a sec im gonna try that01:07
HymnToLifehmm01:07
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HymnToLifewe should add the nightlies version to ubotu01:07
LordMelkorubotu the repos version sucks01:07
ubotuLordMelkor: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:07
NsOmNiAc<3 VLC01:07
lafferptdoes anyone has qmail installed?01:07
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lafferpterr, 'have'01:07
ryan_isherewhich one do i want01:07
Toadstoolryan_ishere: currently, i'm using debian sid vlc and it's far better than breezy one01:08
LordMelkori tried compiling vlc but for some reason even though i had libmatroska i couldnt get matroska support to work from my compiled version01:08
HymnToLifeweird01:08
LordMelkori got the nightlies version but now i cant watch w,v9 :(01:08
HymnToLifeI compiled it and it worked fine01:08
LordMelkorwmv9*01:08
ryan_isheresays debian sid i38601:08
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HymnToLifedid you follow the forum's thread about it ?01:08
LordMelkorya01:08
LordMelkordidnt work tho01:08
ryan_ishereor experimental i38601:08
MakuraWhy is it that Totem plays AVI but I don't get any sound?01:08
LordMelkori read the forums HOWTO and the wiki HOWTO01:09
LordMelkorneither worked01:09
HymnToLifefunny, I did it, works like a charm01:09
LordMelkorim prly missing some other dependancy01:09
ryan_isherebut the breezy version sucks?01:09
LordMelkorryan get the breezy nightly01:09
HymnToLifethats what build-dep is for :)01:09
LordMelkoroh.01:09
LordMelkorgood point01:09
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ryan_ishereok01:09
LordMelkordoes build dep work with vlc tho?01:09
HymnToLifeyes01:10
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naliothLordMelkor: it does.01:10
TweedHymnToLife I think that network admin is the right command but neither of your suggestions appear to do anything01:10
dan_umm01:10
dan_hmm01:10
LordMelkornice then i can add the wmv9 module too01:10
LordMelkorW00T01:10
rob_!ati01:10
uboturumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:10
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dollarHow can I view th efiles in my hda1 when im not as root? when im logged in as a normal user ?01:10
lcoreWhere does gnome terminal keep info about created profiles?01:10
dan_does anyone know how to install firefox 1.5?01:10
HymnToLifeTweed> the correct command is definitely network-admin (I assume you're running Gnome)01:10
dan_I don't wanna run inferior firefox anymore01:10
HymnToLife!ff1.501:10
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:10
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dan_thank you01:11
LordMelkorugh i hate firfox 1.501:11
Nameeaterdollar: what type of format is it in?01:11
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TweedHymnToLife yes right out of the box..01:11
dollarNameeater, NTFS01:11
LordMelkorit doesnt have the fat clearall button in the privacy section01:11
jonkansome swe that could help me?01:11
lcoredan_:  I've uses klik01:11
LordMelkorjonkan not if you dont describe your problem01:11
lcoredan_:  ^used01:11
IdleOne!se01:12
ubotusomebody said se was Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se01:12
uber_spacedanybody have any suggestions on how to spend ~$350 on a motherboard and processor?01:12
jonkani have som problems whit mounting my ntfs windows disk01:12
Kr4t05Genfoo: Poked around Synaptic, I think I found something.01:12
Genfoo;-)01:12
ryan_ishereok now i have vlc01:12
IdleOne!tell jonkan  about ntfs01:12
dan_umm, why would you hate firefox 1.5?01:12
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LordMelkorHymnToLife: what guide did u use to compile vlc01:13
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polpakdollar, yes that looks right01:13
HymnToLife!no se is <reply>  Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se01:13
ubotuHymnToLife: okay01:13
dan_also, has anyone here had any experience with installing XGL on ubuntu?01:13
dollarpolpak, it didn't work :/01:13
polpakexcept you shouldn't have the $ on the end of the line, it should be two 0's01:13
dan_the live CD worked, so it should work for me01:13
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HymnToLifeLordMelkor> hold on a sec01:13
dan_but we shall see01:13
uber_spacedlike whether or not I should go for a low end opteron or a high end athalon?01:13
Amaranthdan_: it's in dapper01:13
dollarstill can view the drives when im logged in as dollar.01:13
TweedHymnToLIfe: got it.. had to su and it worked ... hmmmm :-/01:13
basbryandan_: it works nicely for me01:13
AmaranthLordMelkor: why would you compile vlc? it's in the repos01:13
dan_Amaranth: yes, but I want it now =P01:13
ryan_isherehow do i use it01:13
dan_I'm not waiting till april, and I'm a knucklehead who refuses to run pre-release01:14
polpakdollar, did you change the lines to have 0 on the end?01:14
LordMelkorAmarnath: that version sucks barely plays anything01:14
lcoredan_: You can use klik.atekon.de to install ff1.5 on breezy.01:14
ompauldan_, may I sak why do you need it now?01:14
Amaranthdan_: so compile Xorg 7.0, xgl, and compiz from source or use dapper01:14
dollarpolpak, the lines are the same as I pasted01:14
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dan_don't need it now01:14
dan_want it now01:14
polpakdollar, they should look like01:14
LordMelkorAmarnath: im using the nightlies version now but i wanna compile it with wmv9 support01:14
dan_tried out the live CD, and I really like it01:14
dan_haha01:14
polpak/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0         001:14
Nameeaterdollar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions01:14
ompaul!ff1.501:14
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:14
Amaranthcompiling xorg 7 will make you cry01:14
SeveasAmaranth, understatement 01:14
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127563&highlight=VLC+MKV01:14
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dan_Amaranth: what's dapper?01:15
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dollarpolpak,  they do :s01:15
Genfoo!dapper01:15
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update01:15
Amaranthdan_: code name for the next release of ubuntu01:15
polpakAmaranth, much wailing and gnashing of teeth01:15
polpakdollar, ok01:15
dan_oh01:15
polpakdollar, you saved the file?01:15
dan_yeah, I'm gonna have to compile01:15
ryan_isherei still got no sound man?01:15
Amaranthdan_: You're going to break your system.01:15
LordMelkoris it possible to modify the default xv output settings01:16
Amaranthdan_: I've been doing this stuff for years and I wouldn't trust myself to compile xorg01:16
SeveasAmaranth, wuss ;)01:16
ryan_ishereit says its playing but i got no sound comming out?01:16
ompaulSeveas, Seveas01:16
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Amaranth!lart Seveas01:16
ompaulSeveas, can't call you a wuss01:16
polpakryan_ishere, try changing the sink it's using in your preferences?01:16
stephanshave you seen the cool novell desktop gui effects and menu?01:16
stephanswill they be in dapper too?01:16
polpakstephans, yep01:17
Amaranthstephans: the eyecandy will, the menu won't01:17
Seveasstephans, yes, but not enabled by default because it's awfully unstable01:17
stephansIC01:17
ryan_isherepolpak: what do you mean?01:17
dan_hmm01:17
polpakryan_ishere, I believe in the preferences you can specify what sound system it sinks the sound to01:17
tristanmikeAmaranth, what you do mean "the menu", what's that?01:17
dan_Amaranth, that sucks, why is it so hard?01:17
ryan_ishereim in preferences01:18
Amaranthtristanmike: Novell's beagle powered applications menu01:18
ryan_isherebut i got nothing01:18
LordMelkoryo. someone said that it was possible to do "build-dep" for vlc.01:18
LordMelkorbut01:18
LordMelkori got this message01:18
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LordMelkorE: Build-dependencies for vlc could not be satisfied.01:18
Englastephans: it definitely won't be installed by default, though01:18
dan_anyways01:18
HymnToLifesomeone is me01:18
Amaranthdan_: because xorg is a bunch of pieces of code that work together in weird ways, but only if you sacrifice your first-born first01:18
tristanmikeAmaranth, ok, I haven't seen that, so I have no idea what you're talking about :P01:18
dan_this click does not work for me at all01:18
dan_haha01:18
HymnToLifeand it definitely worked for me01:18
dan_klik even01:18
Genfoough! when is there going to be a 64-bit version of flash player >:|01:18
HymnToLifehmm01:18
Seveasdan_, klik is a Bad Thing01:18
dan_Amaranth, haha01:18
SeveasGenfoo, around the 12th of never01:18
AmaranthGenfoo: probably never01:19
ryan_ishereany other ideas?01:19
LordMelkorHymnToLife: you didnt get that message when you typed apt-get build-dep vlc?01:19
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> need to add an extra repo01:19
Genfoonever is a very strong word01:19
LordMelkorwhich01:19
AmaranthGenfoo: Windows XP 64-bit doesn't have flash either01:19
apokryphosklik is a good thing01:19
GenfooAmaranth, that's business suicide01:19
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LordMelkorHymnToLife: whichone01:19
dan_you know what's great tho01:19
ompaulGenfoo, never be broke01:19
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> see the 'Matroska packages' here http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list01:19
dan_I don't really care if I break this system, this is just my linux system01:19
dan_I have nothing on it even01:19
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dan_hahaha01:19
polpakryan_ishere, one sec01:19
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dan_this is my screwaround box01:19
vejanevening all01:19
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dan_worst that happens is I have to format and reinstall ubuntu01:20
LordMelkorwhy are they commented out01:20
Seveasdan_, and that is currently a 10-minute job01:20
AmaranthHopefully dapper+1 will have aiglx on by default01:20
LordMelkorits like i shouldnt be using them -_-01:20
vejanhow can I close open ports?01:20
Amaranthbut i think that would depend on ati getting drivers out01:20
Genfoocan I embed 32-bit flash player somehow in my 64 bit system?01:20
HymnToLifebecause not anyone is building VLC01:21
AmaranthSeveas: the flight 4 ppc install took about 40 minutes :P01:21
SeveasAmaranth, try espresso01:21
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kdittyany ideas on why the live cd of ubuntu would give me wireless access, as well as detect my network, while breezy fullinstall wouldnt do the same?01:21
kdittyand i had to set up01:21
polpakryan_ishere, so what driver is selected under the settings?01:21
makomk\whois ubugtu01:21
AmaranthSeveas: I like my partitions to be not wiped out. :P01:21
kdittynothing in the live cd01:21
SeveasAmaranth, hehe ;)01:21
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Seveasmakomk, ubugtu is a bot01:21
ryan_ishereyou mean where it says default?01:21
AmaranthSeveas: did you ever fix it?01:22
Amaranthtesting: "DCC SEND01:22
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Seveasfix what?01:22
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Amaranththat01:22
IdleOnelol01:22
Seveasthat's good01:22
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dan_umm01:22
dan_okay, if I run the pre-release version of ubuntu01:23
Seveasrather a few false positives than false negatives01:23
dan_will I get XGL and the new firefox installed for me?01:23
dan_hahaha01:23
AmaranthSeveas: the exploit only works if it's the start of the message01:23
vejanwhat can't I get to google.com from firefox01:23
Amaranthdan_: firefox, yes01:23
SeveasAmaranth, unfortunately not01:23
Amaranthdan_: xgl, no01:23
polpakdan_, new firefox yes, new xgl no. but there's a nice howto01:23
dan_hmm01:23
dan_I want this XGL01:23
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dan_you guys tried it yet?01:23
michal`hello happy guys !01:23
polpakdan_, yeah01:23
dan_it's sweet as all hell01:23
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michal`tell me01:23
Seveasdan_, it's unstable as hell too01:23
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HymnToLifeSeveas> why is that banned (the dcc thing)01:24
ryan_isherei still got no sound01:24
Xoritorlol01:24
HymnToLife?01:24
michal`do you know about some packages with nxmachine server for ubuntu ?01:24
Seveasand compiz is bad01:24
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dan_hmm01:24
Seveas!tell HymnToLife about exploit01:24
polpakryan_ishere, what driver is selected in your settings for mplayer?01:24
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dan_I do think 3d filesystems are the way to go tho, honestly01:24
dan_when you see that01:24
dan_totally rules01:24
dan_and I'm runnin a ti4200 on this system01:24
dan_not even anything really that great01:24
HymnToLifehmm got it01:24
ryan_isherewhere does it say driver im in the settings i dont see it?01:24
dan_and it worked really nicely01:24
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Seveasdan_, please take off-topic discussions to the -offtopic channel01:25
romulohi, im having a problem with the keyboard of my notebook, if i press ctrl+alt+f1 it doenst exit X and go to virtual terminals..infact nothing happens, if i press the combination on gnome-terminal it outputs  "S" , can aynoen help me?01:25
IdleOne!tell dan_  about enter01:25
Seveaswe like to keep this one support-only01:25
rikaidan_, so get it fired up and running. ;) #xgl-ubuntu if you need hel. :D01:25
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rikai*help01:25
LordMelkorHymnToLife: i added the bunkus repo but build dep still doesnt work01:25
polpakryan_ishere, click the wrench looking button01:25
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allisfreeis the network card MAC address saved on disk, or detected every booting?01:25
ryan_isherethere isnt one on VLC01:25
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ryan_isherewait sorry01:25
ryan_isherei found it01:25
HymnToLifestill the same output ?01:25
naliothLordMelkor: join us in #kubuntu-offtopic for help compiling vlc01:25
LordMelkorHymnToLife: although apt didnt find the key but i doubt that had anything to do with it01:26
phillI have a FAT32 partition on my hard drive, and I can mount it using "mount -w /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2", but how can I mount it so that it is writable by all users?01:26
ufoallisfree, its hardcoded to chip01:26
ryan_ishereok now what?01:26
HymnToLifedid you apt-get update ?01:26
LordMelkorya01:26
LordMelkorduh -_-01:26
naliothubotu: tell phill about mountwindows01:26
polpak!tell phill about ntfs01:26
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LordMelkornalioth: i dont have kubuntu tho01:27
polpakphill, the howto applies to fat32 as well as ntfs01:27
allisfreeufo, i know, so ubuntu detected it every time?01:27
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MakuraHow do I extract stuff if I don't have the rights?01:27
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sweetd4hey01:27
sweetd4hows it goin??01:27
polpakryan_ishere, on the audio tab what driver is it using?01:27
HymnToLifeLordMelkor> how could you update if you don't have the key ?01:27
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ufoallisfree, yes, have you heard mac spoofing :)01:27
ryan_ishereim not using Mplayer01:28
GenfooSeveas, by the way, do you use xchat?01:28
Kr4t05Genfoo: I found what I was looking for. It was on the ShoutCast website.01:28
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ryan_ishereim using VLC01:28
Genfoook Kr4t0501:28
Kr4t05Genfoo: thanks for the help, anyway.01:28
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GenfooKr4t05, shoutcast and linux can be really messy01:28
SeveasGenfoo, yes01:28
polpakryan_ishere, oh. Coulda swore you said mplayer01:28
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GenfooSeveas, ok :-)01:28
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Kr4t05Genfoo: sc_trans_linux should work.01:28
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ryan_isherei did awhile back then i changed it ill try mplayer again01:29
GenfooSeveas, can you make xchat save the windows and rooms that you opened already so you can restart the program ?01:29
polpakryan_ishere, doesn't totem work?01:29
ryan_isheretotem?01:29
GenfooKr4t05, except it doesn't -_-01:29
SeveasGenfoo, xchat  server list, edit your server, add the auto-join channels01:29
polpaktotem is the default media player in ubuntu01:29
Kr4t05Genfoo: ?!01:29
Kr4t05Genfoo: I'll take a shot at it.01:29
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Kr4t05Genfoo: I have a shell account on a webserver, so, no big.01:30
Ven] n^anyone got Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG ?01:30
cjVen] n^: 2200 here01:30
GenfooKr4t05, your own server? just wondering :P01:30
Ven] n^im gonna install it to fedora..01:30
cjit's only BG.  but I might be able to help, I guess01:30
Ven] n^cj, http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2098&hl=milligan01:30
Ven] n^this the way?01:31
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cjVen] n^: sorry, don't have time to read that right now01:31
Kr4t05Genfoo: No, friend of mine, sells dedi's and shells.01:31
cjVen] n^: give me a quick recap01:31
ryan_ishereok with the rythmbox01:31
Falstiusdoes dapper have mysql5?01:31
Ven] n^cj, i need to find what driver windows use and etc01:31
cjFalstius: we're working on it :)01:31
ryan_isherehow do i set my firefox shared folder as my library?01:31
Kr4t05Genfoo: Only $7AUD01:31
Ven] n^and what chipset it is01:31
Kr4t05Genfoo: /mo01:31
cjVen] n^: sorry, no windows here...01:31
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polpakFalstius, postgreSQL > mysql anyway01:31
Ven] n^and ndiswrapper etc01:31
ryan_isherenot firefox01:31
cjFalstius: don't listen to polpak01:31
Ven] n^cj, how did u install urs?01:31
ryan_isherefrostwire01:32
cjVen] n^: it came in my laptop :)  do you mean the drivers?01:32
Ven] n^yes :p01:32
cjFalstius: can I help you with mysql?01:32
Falstiuscj, my wife wants mysql5 I get her mysql501:32
cjFalstius: we're taking input on the dapper package01:32
Ven] n^im still on ubuntu, heh.. i use fedora as i didnt get ubuntu to work01:32
Ven] n^if that matters01:32
ryan_ishereman ubuntu is too much work01:32
polpakryan_ishere, uh...01:32
brennerMakura: where/what is the file?01:32
cjVen] n^: do you have the most recent firmware?01:32
ryan_isherewindows it far more user friendly and it doesnt frickin go unstable all the time on you01:33
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ryan_isherejust from time to time01:33
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kdittyis it safe to asume that if the drivers for my wireless card are on the livecd of ubuntu, that they are also in the full install?01:33
Nikopolkditty: yeah probably01:33
cjFalstius: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.001:33
polpakryan_ishere, no, you just spent the last hour or so debugging non supported apps rather than using the default01:33
basbryanryan_ishere:and microsoft says all their users are too dumb to know they can't the same thing for free....01:33
kdittybecause i can access internet sharing fine from live cd, im doing it now01:33
cjFalstius: yes, there's a package.  We're cleaning it up for the dapper release01:33
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ryan_isheregreat but01:33
Falstiuscj, I'm still running breezy.  I was thinking about upgrading to get it.01:34
kdittybut when i boot to the install shell, my wireless will not connect01:34
ryan_ishereif too dumb means you have to fix something every ten mins im thinking its worth it since you can bootleg windows anyway01:34
cjFalstius: I'm pretty sure you can get 5 with breezy... try that command01:34
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cjFalstius: apt-cache search mysql-server-5.001:34
kdittyso im guessing that the problem is somplace in my settings, but i checked my settings from the livecd and changed the breezy installl to match them01:34
cjFalstius: join me on #mysql01:34
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polpakryan_ishere, say that a little louder.. I don't think the FBI quite heard you01:34
kdittyand still cant get online without live cd01:34
rob_!m4p01:35
uboturob_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:35
ryan_isherei dont have a bootleg version im on my moms comp its a dell but still01:35
IdleOneryan_ishere>  if you install apps that arent supported yeah you are gonna spend more time fixing them using01:35
polpakryan_ishere, in anycase. Your whole problem was mostly caused by your not using the default player01:35
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ryan_ishereok but yet again01:35
IdleOnes/them/than01:35
ryan_ishereim trying to use the default one01:35
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DoTheRodeo_Xorg acts dumb after 2 days of uptime01:35
ryan_ishereand its simply not outputting any sound01:35
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DoTheRodeo_i thought only windows that does that01:35
ryan_isherethe rythmbox is the default player on mine01:36
polpakryan_ishere is your sound even working?01:36
ryan_ishereonly on startup01:36
polpakryan_ishere, no sense debugging the app if it's the system driver itself01:36
ryan_isherethe little drumbeat and hello im your computer welcome to hell sounds01:36
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IdleOneryan_ishere>  so the problem is sound ( hardware / drivers ) and not the software01:36
kdittyis there a way to export my live cd network config to my hd install of unbuntu01:36
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polpakryan_ishere, have you tried a different multimedia system?01:36
renehi01:37
renehola01:37
polpakSystem->Preferences->Multimedia selector01:37
Genfoo:P01:37
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qferretryan_ishere, switch from ALSO to OSS or vice versa01:37
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ryan_isherei would doubt hardware being the problem since i have windows on a seperate partition and everything works fine on it01:37
qferret*ALSA01:37
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ozrgubuntu distributor of the year01:37
mrechmm what entries do I need in my sources.list file to upgrade my debian to dapperdrake?01:37
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polpakryan_ishere, it's also incredibly difficult to talk to you in IRC since you don't bother to address your statements01:37
polpakryan_ishere, we didnt' say it was the hardware, we said it was the drivers01:38
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Trinitrogen!rescue01:38
ubotuI heard rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode01:38
kdittythe live cd already has my network on the list in the activate connection option, on the live cd. but the hd install doesnt have that option. im affraid i messed up a setting, because the full install didnt configure my network properly01:38
Genfoomrec, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/993701:38
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renehi01:38
ryan_ishereno someone asked i dont know how to address my statements?01:38
GenfooHI01:38
renei eat fish01:38
rene:S01:38
Genfoojesus stop saying hi you troll -_-01:38
polpakryan_ishere, type the person's name to whom you are speaking01:38
ryan_isherepolpak, like that?01:38
polpakyes01:38
mrecGenfoo: nice thanks!01:39
ryan_ishereok01:39
polpakryan_ishere, that is very much better01:39
reneok01:39
Genfoomrec, that's mine ;-)01:39
ryan_isherepolpak, this is my problem01:39
polpakryan_ishere, because it highlights it in red on my screen01:39
IdleOneryan_ishere>  when you put the persons name it highlights it in red so they can see it better01:39
polpakryan_ishere, otherwise it's very difficult to see when you say things01:39
TrinitrogenCan somebody share the link for reinstalling GRUB with the LiveCd?01:39
ryan_isherepolpak, i installed a new video card and everything went to crap01:39
polpakryan_ishere, you can also tab complete the persons name in xchat01:39
mrecGenfoo: now it's mine too :)01:39
Genfoo:-)01:39
renei paly gameboy advance01:39
bimberi!recover01:39
ubotusomebody said recover was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:39
bimberiTrinitrogen: ^^^01:40
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qferretjust don't be a tab tramp LOL01:40
TrinitrogenThanks :)01:40
reneplay gameboy sorry01:40
polpakryan_ishere, what video card?01:40
IdleOnerene>  thats great ! do you need any help with ubuntu?01:40
ryan_isherepolpak, so i installed the new drivers and since then no sound from the media players and i cant seem to figure out why.01:40
brennerqferret: tab tramp?01:40
reneyes01:40
Genfoorene, then ask01:40
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ryan_isherepolpak, Radeon 9600 se01:40
kdittywould it be possible for me to load the breezy OS, and then put the live cd in cdrom and run the config util for the network config to change config on my install?01:40
bimberiTrinitrogen: np :)01:40
Genfooand stay on topic01:40
renecan you play fotball01:40
rene??01:40
Trinitrogenbimberi: I just hope the live cd helps me more than the install does01:40
polpakryan_ishere, k, one sec01:40
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Trinitrogenif not Im gonna kill myself01:41
Jalalshouldn't ubuntu auto detect a network between two computers hooked up through an ethernet wire?01:41
qferretbrenner,  if there was a brencer or whatever in here bren<tab> would adress the wrong person01:41
allisfreelspci showsth, but no /proc/pci found. so there is no pci network card found. dmesg show my networkcard has been recognize and the kernel module has been installed. what's wrong would be?01:41
IdleOnekditty>  probably but I wouldnt know how01:41
ryan_isherepolpak, i also have frostwire and it would appear as though it wont work anymore either01:41
kdittytrinitrogan, the live cd actually works better for me than the live install01:41
reneGENFOO can you play fotball01:41
brennerqferret: ah. :)01:41
IdleOne!ops01:41
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee01:41
ozrgis it possible to install ubuntu without a cd?01:41
ryan_isherepolpak, it downloads but wont play anything01:41
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AmaranthIdleOne: ?01:41
pedroAnybody knows how to reinstall Firefox 1.5.0.1 in Ubuntu?01:41
IdleOnerene>01:41
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rob_is there a posible way to play itunes downloaded m4ps??01:41
SeveasIdleOne, ?01:41
polpakryan_ishere, most likely for the same reason all your other players aren't working01:41
hackeronhey, I currently have 4 desktops in the desktop switcher, how do I add more?01:41
IdleOneSeveas>  rene01:41
Genfoorene I can row too :-)01:41
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ryan_isherepolpak, i would assume so01:42
polpakryan_ishere, how did you install the driver for your ATI card?01:42
crimsunrob_: have you processed them with jHymn?01:42
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ryan_isherepolpak, went to the wiki and followed the instructions01:42
rob_no, i dont know what that is01:42
IdleOneSeveas>  Amaranth  rene is a troll asking if we can play football01:42
rob_!jHymn01:42
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob_01:42
naliothrene: this is a help and support channel, for general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic01:42
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qferretryan_ishere, switch from ALSA to OSS or vice versa....Open volume control, fo to File -> change device and choose the other.... works for me every time01:42
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crimsunrob_: search via Google, then process them via jHymn01:42
rob_okay01:43
rob_thank you01:43
Ven] n^r usbkeys plug and play with linux?01:43
SeveasVen] n^, yes01:43
polpakryan_ishere, the wiki provides 2 methods to install the driver01:43
polpakryan_ishere, which did you use01:43
Jalalshouldn't ubuntu auto detect a network between two computers hooked up through an ethernet wire?01:43
Genfoowow there are quite a bit of bans here01:43
Ven] n^Seveas, do i need to format it?01:43
polpakryan_ishere, and to make sure we're looking at the same thing, which wiki page was it?01:43
ozrgis it possible to install ubuntu without a cd?01:43
reneGenfoo you like eat fish???01:43
SeveasJalal, depends on what you mean with auto detect01:43
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SeveasVen] n^, only if it's not yet formatted01:43
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Sir_quickenHey I gotta set up evolution with ssl on 950 & cannot set it, what other e-mail clients are there?01:43
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Genfoo/kick rene01:43
bimberiTrinitrogen: ah, kk, a way to restore grub with the install cd is documented somewhere (ubuntuforums iirc) but you've probably been trying that01:43
ryan_isherepolpak, im not entirely sure it was given to me by someone on here it was the ati page01:44
JalalSeveas, give me access to the shared folders on my windows machine01:44
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SeveasGenfoo, don't do that - we know how to run a channel01:44
rob_crimsun, on jhymn's website, there are only windows and mac downloads... will the windows one work since it is java?01:44
Ven] n^there r some windows apps on it that was already there.. cruzersync, cruzerlock2 etc01:44
mikebot /msg nickserv set unfiltered on01:44
GenfooSeveas, ok  :-X :-D01:44
polpakryan_ishere,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ??01:44
crimsunrob_: you'd have to run jHymn inside wine or Windows directly01:44
brennerozrg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation01:44
Genfoomikeazorin, you can also use two "//" try it01:44
brennerozrg: it's best to use the install CD imho01:44
Genfoo/me01:44
Genfooer01:44
rob_oh.01:44
Genfoomikebot,01:44
mikebotGenfoo, yes01:45
Genfoomikebot, , you can also use two "//" try it01:45
crimsunrob_: you might want to look at SharpMusique or whatnot01:45
mikebot/01:45
Genfoo:)01:45
mikebot/msg nickserv blah01:45
Genfoo:P01:45
SeveasGenfoo, please keep the off-topicness out01:45
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mikebotoh no, i meant to send that to nickserv, there was just an accidental space01:45
Seveasmikebot, same for you01:45
mikebotheh01:45
GenfooSeveas, sorry. are you an ubuntu developer?01:45
ryan_isherepolpak, im checking it right now01:45
qferretI have a password issue...I backed up my Ubuntu instal with backuppc, and used the tarball to overwrite files on an ubuntu VM downloaded from VMware's site....the only account I can use to log on is backuppc01:45
mikebothey, is wikipedia not responding correctly for anyone else?01:45
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SeveasGenfoo, partially01:46
qferretthat account doesn't have root priv's01:46
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ryan_isherepolpak, i used the ones provided by ubuntu01:46
qferretwhat files didn't copy overcorrectly?01:46
rob_i have sharpmusique, but it cant play the songs, i have a lot of itunes downloads that i am bringing over from windows01:46
ryan_isherepolpak, the ones first on the list01:46
ozrg<brenner>: could you please tell me how to install ubuntu without the cd01:47
crimsunrob_: if you still have Windows installed, I highly recommend you use jHymn from within Windows01:47
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sweetd4hi01:47
Sir_quickenCan sum1 help me?? I need 2 know if there is a linux version of entourage Eudora mozilla or thunderbird E-mail client, ("like outlook")01:47
polpakryan_ishere, ok01:47
brennerozrg: see the advanced installs at the bottom of the page01:47
rob_i would, but I have replaced it with ubuntu01:47
sweetd4hi01:47
brennerozrg: fyi, i've never done it.  i just know that link01:47
polpakryan_ishere, can you pastebin the output of lspci and lsmod ?01:47
crimsunrob_: ah, then you'll have to try it within wine, or unlock them using another Windows machine01:48
MakuraHow do you extract tar.gz files?  It says I don't have the privileges..01:48
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ozrgbrenner: cnt see no link :S01:48
ryan_isherepolpak, assume that i am mentally retarded when it came to computers cause it wouldnt be far from the truth so speak in clear common english is you wouldnt mind01:48
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qferretMakura, use sudo tar....01:48
polpakMakura, that probably means that you don't have write priveleges to the place your trying to extract to01:48
Earlbhello... can anyone help me get World of Warcraft running under wine?01:49
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polpakMakura, you only need read privileges to extract01:49
qferretor the tarball itself...01:49
Makurapolpak: I'm trying to extract this firefox 1.5.tar.gz to Opt so I can install it01:49
polpakEarlb, did you read the howto?01:49
Sir_quickenHELLO!! E-mail client question, I cant recive e-mail only send using a E-mail client ("like outlook")01:49
Makuraqferret: */opt01:49
Earlbyes, i did.01:49
brennerozrg: it helps if you read posts addressed to you.  here it is again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation01:49
qferretgracias Makura ;-)01:49
polpakubotu tell ryan_ishere about pastebin01:49
Sir_quickencan anyone suggest another I gave a list 2 that support setting ssl ports & such01:49
Makuraqferret: For what? =p01:50
mikebothey, is wikipedia not responding correctly for anyone else?01:50
ozrgbrenner: thanks.01:50
SeveasSir_quicken, evolution works fine01:50
Sir_quickenNot for gmail01:50
ryan_isherepolpak, so what does that mean?01:50
polpakryan_ishere, the website ubotu told you about will allow you to paste text and then you can tell me the url01:50
brenneranyone have any recommendations for a gmail notifier?01:50
Sir_quickenI send not recive01:50
polpakryan_ishere, then I can see the text01:50
SeveasSir_quicken, works good for me01:50
qferretoops...thought u were answering a q I asked earlier01:50
qferret:)01:50
Seveasdid you enable pop3 in the gmail web settings?01:50
polpakryan_ishere, so if you go to a terminal you can copy the output from the commands lspci  and lsmod and paste that output into the pastebin url01:50
Seveasand did you double-check the account settings?01:50
Sir_quickenI have 3 messages on my gmail its not picking it up.. HOW do I set the pop ssl port then01:51
polpakryan_ishere, or rather paste it into the pastebin form, and give me the url01:51
Kanalalhi, can someone tell me (point me to a post wiki) how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules?01:51
Earlbpolpak: i did read the howto... when i run the game i get an error regarding opengl32.dll. I've set up my ATI card's drivers, so i know that isn't it.01:51
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Sir_quickenyes there is nothing asking for ssl01:51
mikebotwhat's the offtoipic channel?01:51
polpakmikebot, #ubuntu-offtopic01:51
SeveasSir_quicken, "Use secure connection"01:51
ryan_isherepolpak, i wish i knew what you were talking about i think you have overestimated my intelligence01:51
mikebotpolpak, thanks01:51
polpak!pastebin01:52
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)01:52
Sir_quickenI will look at it again but I am not finindg that Option01:52
polpakryan_ishere, so open this webpage in your browser01:52
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polpakryan_ishere,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:52
Kanalalanyone?01:52
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ryan_isherepolpak, i have01:52
polpakryan_ishere, ok01:52
polpakryan_ishere, in a terminal window01:52
polpakryan_ishere, type lspci01:52
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ryan_isherepolpak, whats a terminal window?01:53
Sir_quickenOK tell me sevas it only allows password as a secure & it doesnt work01:53
polpakryan_ishere, applications->accessories->terminal01:53
Sir_quickenTELL me now wtf I do01:53
polpakryan_ishere, how did you install the ati driver w/o using the terminal?01:53
qferretheh01:53
_M4Ldhow do i get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib.01:53
ryan_isherepolpak, sorry i just had a brain fart moment there01:53
polpakryan_ishere, no worries01:54
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ryan_isherepolpak, ok did it01:54
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polpakryan_ishere, copy & paste the output from the command into the pastebin form01:54
polpakryan_ishere, then send me the url for your submission01:54
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Sir_quickenseveas it gives me error says sorry & closes 2 fast 2 read.. HOW do I set up gmail with evolution??01:55
ryan_isherepolpak, do i have to click send on this thing anywhere for it to save it or just copy the url01:55
_M4Ldhow do i get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!01:55
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Sir_quickenthere is no ssl port setting01:55
SeveasSir_quicken, "Use secure connection"  always01:55
ryan_isherepolpak, or send perhaps01:55
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polpakryan_ishere, after you copy the output click send01:55
polpakryan_ishere, yeah01:55
Sir_quickenI am, the ports are diffretn01:56
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ryan_isherepolpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994201:56
Sir_quickennormal ssl usee port 443 or somthing like that g-mail uses 95001:56
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Sir_quickenHiow do  Iset the port? I cant recive e-mail only send01:56
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polpakryan_ishere, ok, now do the same thing for the command lsmod01:57
Sir_quickenseveas your no doubt using hotmail not g-mail, g-mail has somthing vcalled security.01:57
_M4Ldhi there, does anybody have an idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!01:57
SeveasSir_quicken, I'm using gmail...01:57
Seveasand it works like a charm01:57
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Seveasboth on breezy and dapper01:58
ryan_isherehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994301:58
Sir_quickenthen why cant I recive e-mails of fthe gmail server01:58
Phouli just installed gaimbeta2 and im wondering what i use for the "command" section for sound01:58
Sir_quickeneverything is set correctly01:58
ryan_isherepolpak, sorry i didnt address that01:58
SeveasSir_quicken, do you get connection errors?01:58
ryan_isherepolpak, then all you need is my mothers maiden name and my soc security number right?01:58
PhoulErr Phoul: use whatever program will play sounds at the command line for you01:58
Seveasif notL then enable pop access for all mails, not just for new mails01:58
PhoulWhat will play sounds at command line01:58
Sir_quickenI get error on trying 2 recive ppo mail I cant see it closes 2 fast01:58
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Kanalalhi, can someone tell me how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules? or perhaps a way to restore the modules without having to compile them myself?01:58
kingslayerHAHAHA01:58
kingslayerLAMER01:58
qferretryan_ishere,  CC #'s are good too :P01:58
kdittyi wonder why ubuntu live cd would configure my wireless card fine, and the install process game me an error01:59
polpakryan_ishere, lol01:59
ryan_ishereqferret, just making sure01:59
qferretheh01:59
Phoulanyone know01:59
Phoul?01:59
polpakryan_ishere, it looks like all your drivers are loaded01:59
ryan_isherepolpak, thats good darn things were a bitch to load up01:59
polpakryan_ishere, right click the speaker icon next to your clock01:59
kingslayergay01:59
kingslayershut up01:59
PhoulWhat will play sounds in the command line01:59
Sir_quickensays exspunging or I dont know wtf it says it goes 2 fast 2 read01:59
PhoulIm guessing alsa but i dont know how to make it into a useable command02:00
ryan_isherepolpak, and then?02:00
polpakryan_ishere, it's not muted is it? ;p02:00
qferretryan_ishere, I'm tellin ya...try switching devices02:00
Sir_quickenWhat are other e-mail clients with actual options I can use? for linux??02:00
IdleOnekditty>  it is possible that some drivers are installed with live cd to give the more users ablitlity to use certain hardware...just need to install the drivers for your wireless02:00
IdleOne!tell kditty  about wireless02:00
ryan_isherepolpak, ok im computer retarded but mute is used more then on a comp mi amigo ; }02:00
Phoul!tell phoul about alsa02:01
polpakryan_ishere, just checking =p02:01
satansir_quicken: try thunderbird02:01
Phoul!dmix02:01
ubotuwell, dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:01
polpakryan_ishere, select preferences from that menu02:01
Sir_quickenI asked anbout that nobody awnsered02:01
Sir_quickenwher do  Iget it?02:01
Trinitrogenhaha, oh god I wanna kill myself I just spent all day working to get GRUB back into my MBR after installing windows... so I just succeeded...and then I remembered I once again have to reinstall windows :)02:01
ryan_isherepolpak, im there02:01
satansir_quicken: look in Adept, should be there02:01
polpakwhat device is selected?02:01
Trinitrogengoodbye MBR...again02:01
polpakryan_ishere, ^^02:01
Sir_quickenadept I am using gnome interface :P02:01
ryan_isherepolpak, intel ich5 alsa mixer02:02
_M4Ldhi there, does anybody have an idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!02:02
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IdleOneTrinitrogen>  good thing is now you know how to do it :)02:02
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polpakryan_ishere, ok, click close and then right click the speaker again and select open volume control02:02
ryan_isherepolpak, im ther02:02
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satansir_quicken: ok try sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird02:02
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cousindaddySir_Quicken, what are you trying to configure?02:02
polpakall the volumn controls are all the way up?02:02
satansir_quicken: in a terminal, of course02:03
ryan_ishereno02:03
ryan_isherepolpak02:03
ryan_isherepolpak, no02:03
ryan_isherehaha02:03
lafferptI have php5 installed, is there any conflict having libapache2-mod-php4 and php4-pear php4-cli... is there any kind of conflict?02:03
qferretlol02:03
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seth4844Can anyone give me some advice? I have an external usb hard drive - I had the whole thing formatted with fat32 so that I could also use it with windows. I just shrinked it's fat32 partition to add a second ext3 partition so that I could save files that were over the 4GB limit. Now Ubuntu automatically mounts the 2nd (ext3) partition but it doesn't mount the 1st (fat32) partition. I suspect...02:03
seth4844...there must be an automount or usbmount config file that would control this. Can anyone set me on the right track?02:03
qferret"Can you hear me now?"02:03
ryan_ishereqferret, you are just sittin back and watchign the show LOL02:03
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noa1if someone runs dapper drake here could i have the /etc/apt/sources.list file please ?02:04
ryan_ishereqferret, let the stupididty flow02:04
polpakryan_ishere, so was it just the volume?02:04
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ryan_ishereno02:04
polpakryan_ishere, oh, ok02:04
ryan_isherepolpak, no it still dosent work02:04
bimberiSir_quicken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingGmailWithEvolution02:04
polpakryan_ishere, ok, close that then02:04
IdleOnenoa1>  #ubuntu+102:04
qferretclick on File -> Change device02:04
qferretgo to OSS02:04
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qferretsee if it works02:04
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ryan_isherepolpak, way ahead of ya02:04
cousindaddyI've configed gmail with Evol no prob...02:05
polpakryan_ishere, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector02:05
ryan_isherepolpak, there02:05
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polpakryan_ishere, I should have asked this before, but.... you are sure the speakers themselves are plugged in correctly and turned on yes?02:06
noa1thanks IdleOne02:06
qferretpolpak...the ubuntu "drum" sign on sound plays ;-)02:06
polpakoh right02:06
polpakforgot02:06
Sir_quickenthat site told me what  ialready got done02:06
ryan_isherepolpak, well like i said the opening welcome to hell ryan and bongos are working so i assumed so02:06
qferretheh02:06
Sir_quickenI already*02:06
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polpakwhat default sink do you have specified?02:07
polpakryan_ishere, ^^02:07
ryan_isherepolpak, and windows worked fine with it as is as well so02:07
bimberiSir_quicken: note that the port goes on the server line - pop.gmail.com:99502:07
LordMelkorwell. i give up.02:07
ryan_isherepolpak,  esd02:07
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LordMelkori guess compiling vlc is out of the question02:08
polpakryan_ishere, try changing it to alsa02:08
Sir_quickenWhy the hell didnt you f'in say that in the first place... GOD DAMN!02:08
seth4844Can anybody give me some advice on how to mount a usbdisk with 2 partitios?02:08
Kanalalhi, can someone tell me how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules? or perhaps a way to restore the modules without having to compile them myself?02:08
ryan_ishereqferret, i like you man02:08
Sir_quickenBah02:08
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Sir_quickenthx02:08
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ryan_isherepolpak, didnt work had some failure message02:08
Makuraqferret: How do I change directories in the terminal? >_>02:08
qferretlol02:08
qferretpolpak.....it beats silencre02:08
LordMelkorwhats wrong with OSS thats what i use for most stuff02:08
LordMelkorits widely supported02:09
ryan_ishereqferret, failed to construct test pipeline for oss sound system02:09
polpakryan_ishere, what was the failure?02:09
LordMelkorbetter so than alsa atleast02:09
qferretMakura,  use "cd"02:09
qferretchange directory02:09
jon_LordMelkor, OSS is older then my dead great grandma ;)02:09
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ryan_isherepolpak, failed to construct test pipeline for alsa02:09
LordMelkorjon_ so what it works?02:09
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qferrete.g. "cd /mnt/mydrive"02:09
LordMelkorjon_ so what it works, its not like there is a difference in sound qulality with also02:09
jon_LordMelkor, For some ;)02:10
ryan_isherepolpak, i was testing them02:10
LordMelkoralsa has better sound qual 0.o02:10
ryan_isherepolpak, no dice02:10
LordMelkor??02:10
Makuraqferret: Thanks.  I'm a recent Linux convert.02:10
LordMelkori thought it was just an alternative driver02:10
qferretMakura, no prob02:10
Makuraqferret: How would I get to the desktop? (sorry)02:11
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qferretwhat does your promt say now?02:11
qferretmakura ^^\02:11
ryan_isherepolpak, im sorry i suck but still no sound02:11
Falstiusqferret, /media/mydrive ..02:11
polpakhrm02:11
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Makuraqferret: It's where it is when you first open the terminal02:11
rick_can someone help i have no sound sound blaster16 card02:11
qferretcd Desktop02:12
eobanbMakura, i believe you weant cd ~/Desktop02:12
Makuraqferret: logonname@Computername:~$02:12
eobanbwant*02:12
Makuraeobanb: Thanks. =[] 02:12
polpakryan_ishere, it really seems like a driver issue02:12
Makura*=] 02:12
polpakryan_ishere, or waid02:12
polpakryan_ishere, or wait02:12
qferretthe ~ means you are in your "home" directory02:12
eobanbyes.02:12
ryan_isherepolpak, when i try to get mplayer to play it says  could not open audio device no sound02:12
ryan_isherepolpak, waiting02:12
polpakryan_ishere, go to system->administration->users and groups02:13
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ryan_ishereqferret, your mom goes to college02:13
polpakryan_ishere, select your user and go to properties02:13
qferretLOL02:13
polpakryan_ishere, then go to the privileges tab02:13
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z6btwhats the syntax to mount an nfs again?02:13
ryan_isherepolpak, im there02:13
lafferptI've installed Shorewall but on /etc/shorewall there isn't an interfaces, hosts, zones, policy and rules files... why is it?02:13
polpakryan_ishere, your user has access to the audio devices yes?02:13
Makuraqferret: I tried typing "sudo tar -C /opt firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz" but it tells me that I must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options.  What am I missing?02:13
lafferptI'm following a tutorial02:13
z6btwas it http://host:/path to file?02:13
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ryan_isherepolpak, that he/ i do02:14
qferret-C?02:14
Kanalalplease people i dont want to reinstall for the 4th time :'(02:14
qferrettry -zxvf02:14
sovinquestion: does anyone know a public program to convert text files into pdf files?02:14
Makuraqferret: The guide I was looking at said to use -C...  Lemme try -zxvf.02:15
qferretz= gzip x=eXtract v= verbose f= somethin or other LOL02:15
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ryan_isherepolpak, ?02:15
JustinLynnf = to folder02:15
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qferretty JustinLynn02:15
Englano f= file02:15
crimsunsovin: Ubuntu has a bunch; just search for them. You can even load them into OpenOffice.Org02:15
polpakryan_ishere, trying to think what else it could be02:15
qferret...or Engla02:15
qferretLOL02:15
sovincrimsun: excellent, thanks for the help =)02:15
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duelelacabezaO_o02:16
MakuraAlso, why is it that Totem doesn't play the sound of my AVI file?02:16
Englanormally tar operates on TapeARchives. F tells it to work with files02:16
JustinLynnEngla> your right. :)02:16
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qferretLinux has no folders hehe02:16
leftistsure it does02:16
V4Vendettayes it does..02:16
leftistit's symantics02:16
qferret"directories"02:16
qferrettrue02:16
LordMelkorMakura it may be encoded with something that uses the w32codecs02:16
qferretbut semantics are important02:16
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JustinLynnthats true :P it has directories which are actually files. :) everything is a file :)02:16
z6btEngla: use mplayer02:16
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qferretespecially in programming02:17
z6btdoes anyone know?02:17
leftistit's all the same today you know but i know where your eluding to :D02:17
leftistlol02:17
crussoAfter you install in the default configuration (not "expert").  Is there an easy way to switch to a "server" setup, or should I just re-install as expert and specify server in there somewhere?02:17
MakuraLordMelkor: What should I do?02:17
Englaz6bt: you think? No thanks :-) [you got the wrong person, right] 02:17
ryan_isherepolpak, could it be because linux is predisposed to hating me?02:17
qferretmakura..... new Ubuntu install?02:17
mike-e_what does this partition mean? tmpfs                 372M   13M  359M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile02:17
Makuraqferret: Yes, I'm sorry =P02:17
ryan_isherepolpak, possibly because mom mom goes college?02:17
IdleOnecrusso>  you can reinstall server by typing server at prompt02:17
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having some booting up trouble... I copied everything from my old hard-drive to my new one (2 partitions... linux and swap). Now I can't get the os to load02:17
qferretGoogle for "Ubuntu Automatix"02:17
ryanakcaand yes, I've checked that the ribbon cables are in the right place :)02:17
ryan_isherepolpak, my mom goes to college?02:18
Makuraqferret: Completely new to this.  Okay, I will.02:18
ryanakcaI take it that grub/MBR never got transfered over by symantec ghost or something... and also, how do I fix it?02:18
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IdleOne!automatix02:18
LordMelkorMakura http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu > click install multimedia codecs02:18
z6btEngla: then you have to get the win32 codecs some AVI files have windows media format in them for some reason02:18
qferretIt will install codecs, java, dvd libs etc automatically02:18
crussoidleone: Oh, instead of "install".  Okay, thanks.02:18
ufocrusso, there are nothin special on server install what cant do with normal installation... it mostly only the sudo thing02:18
ryan_ishereqferret, i had a ferret once. he died in a fire that consumed my room.02:18
crussoufo: thanks02:18
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Englaz6bt: you are still talking to the wrong nick :-)02:19
_M4Ldqferret: any idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update/installation? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!02:19
qferretI got rid of mine when my oldest learned to crawl....he was jealous of her02:19
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IdleOnetell qferret  about automatix02:19
qferretsorry _M4Ld ....no clue on that one...have you Googled the exact error?02:19
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ryan_ishereqferret, his name was Maximus and he enjoyed walks on the beach at sundown and sleeping in a hammock made from a pillow case by myself02:20
_M4Ldyup no results.02:20
z6btEngla: sorry ehehe02:20
_M4Ldthanks anyway.02:20
qferretsorry _M4Ld02:20
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qferretIdleOne, huh?02:20
_M4Ldit's ok.02:20
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_M4Ldi'l try to search for again.02:21
_M4Ldhahhaha.02:21
``Respectcould someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?02:21
IdleOne!automatix02:21
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.02:21
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IdleOneqferret> ^02:21
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qferretahhhh....02:21
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ryan_isherepolpak, you still with me im sorry i dont mean to prod im just impatient02:21
qferreteasy for n00bs though...fairly pain free on a new install02:22
``Respectcould someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?02:22
qferretno config file worries if nothing's config'd02:22
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IdleOneqferret>  exactly why noobs shouldnt use it02:22
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ryan_ishereqferret, could you help me?02:22
AmaranthIf you use automatix we won't help you unbreak things.02:22
``Respectany one know?02:22
qferretI dunno ryan_ishere ....02:22
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qferretpolpak seemed to cover about everything I could think of02:23
ryan_ishereqferret, MY COMP still wont play my Modest Mouse could you remedy the situation02:23
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Amaranthryan_ishere: what kind of file is it?02:23
qferretright click on the speaker icon and go to properties02:23
ryan_ishereamaranth, mp3 i believe02:23
``Respectcould someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?02:24
qferretah...shit LOL02:24
brenner``Respect: you could always read the doc.  or use one of the frontends02:24
Amaranthryan_ishere: enable universe and multiverse, then install the gstreamer0.8-plugins package02:24
``Respectk02:24
Amaranthqferret: Language.02:24
qferretgood call Amaranth02:24
IdleOne``Respect>   well, svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/02:24
``Respectokay thx02:24
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IdleOneno problem02:24
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_M4Ldcan anybody recommend a C++ programming language i could use?02:24
HymnToLifehmm02:25
qferretC++?02:25
_M4Ldfor linux02:25
HymnToLifeC++ ?02:25
rukuarticHaha...  o-o02:25
_M4Lda particular name?02:25
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rukuartic_M4Ld, do you mean a compiler?02:25
HymnToLifethat's pretty much the only C++ language I know02:25
AmaranthC++ is a programming language02:25
lafferptdoes anybody have Shorewall installed???02:25
Amaranthyou want an IDE?02:25
qferretI use Anjuta _M4Ld ...works well for me02:25
_M4Ldic.02:25
Amaranthi think anjuta does C++, otherwise maybe kdevelop02:25
ryan_ishereamaranth, giving that a try right now02:25
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rukuarticAnyone have experience with firestarter and hlds?02:26
ryan_ishereCan you all at least agree that windows is a nice op system?02:26
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IdleOneAmaranth>  where were you an hour ago with the answer to ryan_ishere  question02:26
_M4Ldok. thanks guys. il try to check it02:26
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rukuarticryan_ishere, User friendly, yes. Efficient programming/resources, probably not.02:26
ryan_ishereagreed rukuartic02:26
qferretFor something that takes 2 GB and comes with no productivity software...sure02:26
XiCillindoes ubuntu come with any backup programs?02:26
AmaranthIdleOne: probably eating :P02:26
ryan_ishereamaranth, sitll doesnt work02:27
HymnToLiferukuartic> I'd rather say 'idiot-friendlr' :D02:27
Amaranthryan_ishere: you installed that package?02:27
rukuarticHymnToLife, Now now, lets not bang on our computer-impaired friends.02:27
HymnToLifelol02:27
ryan_ishereamaranth, yes02:27
IdleOne1st rule to tech support start with the the wires and make sure they are plugged in :P02:27
rukuarticHymnToLife, at one point, I was a windoze user too02:27
Amaranthryan_ishere: what are you using to play it?02:27
HymnToLifewell, you know what ?02:27
HymnToLifeI'm on windows right now02:27
tonyyarussoDoes alsamixer change the gain of the microphone, or just how much the input to it plays through the speakers?02:28
rukuarticAnyone know a good way of getting out of GDM/X and into a terminal without losing your login session?02:28
ryan_ishereamarantth, mplayer02:28
Amaranthryan_ishere: oh, try rhythmbox02:28
uforukuartic, ctrl+alt+f1 or f202:28
ryan_isherehymntolife, if you need a knowlege base just to use and fix the bugs of something its not a very marketable product now is it?02:28
rukuarticryan_ishere, amaroK :D02:28
Amaranthryan_ishere: I believe it's Applications->Sound & Video->Music Player02:28
rukuarticufo, but does that actually kill X/GDM?02:28
IdleOnerukuartic>  ctrl+alt+F1 F7 to get back here02:28
lafferptdoes anybody have Shorewall installed???02:28
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uforukuartic, no you can get it back with same command and f702:29
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HymnToLiferyan_ishere> bugs ? never saw any02:29
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rukuarticufo, Looking to free up system memory :P How about killing x/gdm but keeping running programs going?02:29
ryan_ishereamaranth, says couldnt stop playback failed to close audio output sink02:30
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ryan_ishereamaranth, probably because of something qferret told me to do02:30
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brennerAmaranth: re: smeg.  someone installed something via apt.  they then removed it via apt, but the menu entry remained.  he couldn't delete it (the option was greyed out).  i told him it was the package developers fault, but is there a way to remove entries forcefully?02:30
Reg|stersome one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?02:30
qferretryan_ishere,  at least you can fix the bugs with a knowledge base...fixing bugs under Windows is often unlawful ;-)02:30
uforukuartic, if the programs run on x you cant do that they need the xserver to run02:30
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rukuarticufo, They're console programs... running in screen02:30
Amaranthryan_ishere: ok, System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector02:30
Kr4t05Does anyone know anything about sc_trans_linux?02:30
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sorush20what files do I need to install to be able to boot my usb camera it used to work I dont' know what has gone worng. kde is not auto detecting it02:31
ryan_ishereamaranth, im there02:31
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Amaranthryan_ishere: what is the output sink set to?02:31
IdleOnesorush20>  #kubuntu may be able to help you02:31
uforukuartic, you could start them in console f102:31
sorush20no sorry they are all out IdleOne02:31
Reg|stersome one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?02:31
rukuarticufo, If I go to console (f1) and then kill off gdm/x will I lose my apps?02:31
ryan_ishereamaranth, alsa02:31
Amaranthryan_ishere: if it's ALSA try setting it to esd (esound)02:31
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Amaranthand click test02:32
brennerReg|ster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ...look right at the bottom.  there's something called dmix iirc02:32
tonyyarussoCan I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?02:32
ufoyes because they run on xterm or similar02:32
ryan_ishereamaranth, i tried that before i still have nothing02:32
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Amaranthryan_ishere: no sound when you click test?02:32
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rukuarticubotu, sound problems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems02:32
uboturukuartic: okay02:32
Reg|sterthancs brenner02:32
ryan_ishereamaranth, no sound02:32
Amaranthryan_ishere: does _any_ sound work?02:32
Amaranthryan_ishere: in any app02:32
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ryan_ishereamaranth, no sir02:33
ryan_isherebut now the song "plays"02:33
rukuarticufo, woot. anything like gkrellm etc that I can monitor system resources with?02:33
ryan_ishereamaranth, just no sound02:33
Amaranthryan_ishere: Oh, you've got a completely different problem.02:33
Amaranthryan_ishere: maybe the sound is muted? :)02:33
crimsunryan_ishere: pastebin your amixer output02:33
kerskinehowdy kids - I've got a question02:33
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rukuartickerskine, how old are you? :P02:33
Amaranthcrimsun to the rescue!02:33
ryan_ishereamaranth, yet again im not that retarded02:33
ryan_isherehere ill try to see if its hooked up wrong in the back02:33
IdleOnekerskine>  shoot :)02:34
kerskinekids = everyone :)02:34
rukuarticryan_ishere, It'd be putting your fut into your mouth and see that it was though XD02:34
Amaranthryan_ishere: even if it shows up in GNOME as not muted it could be turned all the way down at a lower level02:34
kerskineok - my system has been freezing 1-2 times a day over the past 3 days02:34
bluemaxcan someone help me get mp3 playback to work? i have lame installed but i'm getting audio driver errors in every audio app i play them in02:34
ryan_ishereamaranth, i cant see how that could be the problem since it works in the windows that i have set up on another partition02:34
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_M4Ldqferret: if i wrote a program in ajunta, would it still run in the windows environment?02:34
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_M4LdAnjuta that is.02:34
rukuarticBluemax, tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?02:35
kerskineis there anything that I can set to trap any errors that crop up? /var/log/messages doesn't record anything out of the ordinary02:35
IdleOnekerskine>  need more info then that. have you installed anything or removed anything?02:35
denatocis it just me or is transcode broken?02:35
Amaranthryan_ishere: I'll let crimsun take over from here, he knows more about sound cards than me.02:35
ryan_isherecrimsun, how are you?02:35
kerskineIdleOne: recently replaced a disk on this machine02:35
rukuartickerskine, is your box just slowing down and slowing down until it locks, or is it a sudden death thing?02:35
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qferret_M4Ld,  if you wrote it for Windows...02:35
crimsunryan_ishere: ?02:35
ryanakcawould this work with the knoppix cd? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%2902:35
VR`how do i downgrade irssi if i installed it from source? i want to use the version that came with ubuntu.02:35
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kerskineIdleOne: sudden death02:35
IdleOnekerskine>  bad disk maybe02:35
ryan_ishereamarath, thanks for your help anyway i appreciate it02:35
_M4Ldno.02:35
denatoctough crowd02:35
denatoc:/02:35
bluemaxrukuartic, yeah i looked there, and i have all gstreamer plugins installed, both 0.8 and 0.1002:35
ryanakcaI really don't feel like downloading a Ubuntu Live cd...02:35
ryan_isherecrimsun, what do i type in the terminal to show you that?02:36
_M4Ldim using ubuntu now, but my professors are using windows.02:36
qferretconsole apps, _M4Ld ?02:36
rukuarticbluemax, does audio output work in general?02:36
crimsunryan_ishere: amixer02:36
CrazyOneif i install something with make install how do i uninstall it?02:36
Amaranthryanakca: if knoppix uses grub, sure02:36
bluemaxyes, i've been watching movies02:36
kitcheCrazyOne make uninstall02:36
kerskineIdleOne: maybe  - is there any way to trace the kernel?02:37
_M4Ldwhat do you mean?02:37
qferret"DOS box"02:37
_M4Ldconsole apps?02:37
brennerCrazyOne: next time use checkinstall :)02:37
IdleOnekerskine>  Im sure there is but I dont know how :/02:37
bluemaxactually, i'm been watching NSV streaming movies, which audio is mp3 encoded... can ubuntu not handle more than one mp3 audio thread at once?02:37
CrazyOnemake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.02:37
rukuarticbluemax, try getting mpg123 and see if you can get that to work. you might just have your programs configured wrong by accident02:37
kitchedid you delete the folder CrazyOne?02:37
mikebotis there a way /in ubuntu/ (so this is not off topic) to make it so the people watching my network wont be able to tell that i'm torrenting?02:38
CrazyOneno02:38
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V4Vendettamikebot~ change the port02:38
bluemaxrukuartic, actually i just stopped the movie i was watching, and now i can play the music files02:38
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qferretDo they run under DOS/terminal window, or in Windows with pretty GUI?02:38
_M4Ldqferret, what do you mean by console apps? apps in the GUI environment?02:38
jetscreameryou not the urt vendetta are you02:38
qferret_M4Ld, ^^02:38
VR`how do i downgrade irssi if i installed it from source? i want to use the version that came with ubuntu.02:38
rukuarticbluemax, Haha... oh dear.02:38
mikebotV4Vendetta, how do i do that?02:38
mikebotV4Vendetta, it's a school network02:38
ryan_isherecrimsun, could you paste the pastebin url please?02:39
dURKAwhere is the control panel on ubuntu02:39
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V4Vendettamikebot~ the program will have an option for what port02:39
qferretdURKA,  System -> Administration02:39
ryan_ishereim sorry but i have to go now02:39
mikebotV4Vendetta, and by changing the port they wont be able to notice?02:39
rukuarticmikebot, best not to bittorrent in universities02:40
bluemaxrukuartic, just wondering, why can't ubuntu's audio handle more than one mp3 playback at once? in windows i can play more than one mp3 at the same time (if i needed to)02:40
dURKAhow do i edit sound devices?02:40
ryan_isherei appreciate you guys tring to help but ive got to go02:40
ryan_isheretake care02:40
EnglaVR`: uninstall, then install the repository version?02:40
rukuarticbluemax, don't know. never tried. lemme try.02:40
VR`Engla how do i uninstall02:40
mikebotrukuartic, ah, but the other p2p stuff for ubuntu isn't very good...soulseek for windows orked very well, but for some reason nicotine sucks02:40
denatocdoes anybody in here have a working transcode install?02:40
rukuarticbluemax, should be able to02:40
rukuartic!sound problems02:41
ubotuhmm... sound problems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems02:41
jon_mikebot, Limewire\Frostwire.02:41
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mikebotjon_, which of those two is better?02:41
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rukuarticbluemax, works for me02:41
jon_mikebot, They are both the same, but Frostwire is just a "hack" of Limewire, (no prompts to upgrade, etc)  Connects to the same network.02:41
EnglaVR`: you installed from source? Did you install it with checkinstall or just 'make install'02:42
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VR`Engla make install02:42
mikebotjon_, okay, thanks02:42
bluemaxrukuartic, that's odd... i have to configure my audio better02:42
rukuarticbluemax, using an old card?02:42
mikebotso there is no way, then, to torrent at a university?02:42
qferret_M4Ld, Do the apps run in a "DOS box"? or a "Window"?02:42
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BlueEagle!info bld02:42
ubotubld: (Black List Daemon, automatically build blacklists), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.2-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 180 kB02:42
EnglaVR`: if you have the source package left, you can run 'make uninstall' If not, you need to get the same source, and "./configure make" it identically and then 'make uninstall'02:42
_M4Ldlet us sa windows box.02:42
denatocthanks so much for the help people, i wish i could somehow repay the kindness02:42
BlueEagleanyone know how to work bld?02:42
rukuarticbluemax, some older cards are "half duplex"... basically, can only send or recieve, but not at the same time. still, shouldn't have a problem with multiple outputs02:42
bluemaxrukuartic, actually i'm using a brand new laptop, though i don't know what kind of audio is onboard02:42
VR`Engla got it, thanks02:42
EnglaVR`: it should work if irssi is packaged with the standard toos02:43
Engla*tools02:43
rukuarticbluemax, Internal?02:43
bluemaxrukuartic, yup02:43
qferret_M4Ld, so they like have buttons and drop downs etc?02:43
VR`Engla thanks02:43
BlueEagle!bld02:43
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle02:43
rukuarticbluemax, Oh I gues it would be with a laptop :P02:43
dURKAafter i got to system adminstration what do i do, i what to change the ALAS sound thing02:43
bluemaxhehe02:43
_M4Ldqferret, yes02:43
qferretthat complicates things a bit02:43
_M4Ldqferret, tsk tsk..02:44
rukuarticBlueEagle, Try going to their website and looking for an IRC Channel...02:44
qferretyou can still do it, but I don't think Anjuta has a "Project Wizard" for Windows apps02:44
brennerVR`: next time use checkinstall :)02:44
dURKAhello?02:44
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VR`brenner the how-to told me to use make install02:44
VR`:\02:44
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brennerdURKA: sys>prefs>mm systems02:45
qferretDOS and console apps will compile under either environment without much trouble....GUI's use more API's, etc.02:45
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dURKA??02:45
_M4Ldqferret, so basically, i would be having a problem if i wrote a program in anjuta which would be opened in windows, right?02:45
VR`brenner and when i do use checkinstall, what's the difference?02:45
Matthahi02:45
Fablewhere r the reposotories again?02:45
qferretProbably02:45
brennerVR`: it makes a deb file and installs it for you.  you can then remove it later using any apt tool02:45
rukuarticFable, they should come in preinstalled02:45
qferretlemme look quick....02:45
Fableno i mean wat folder02:45
rukuarticFable, go open up synaptic, I think its Settings>Repositories02:46
Fableeh?02:46
VR`brenner that's much nicer!02:46
rukuarticFable, Oh... grep /etc for apt, I think. I have no clue, someone else in here should02:46
_M4Ldqferret, how about, if i wrote an app for windows but still using anjuta. is it possible?02:46
Fablejust were is the txt file that holds them02:46
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rukuartic_M4Ld, Wine?02:46
brennerVR`: yep02:46
Fablek02:46
Fablethx02:46
bimberiFable: /etc/apt/sources.list02:46
VR`brenner thanks for the tip02:46
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brennerVR`: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall02:46
EnglaVR`: right, checkinstall is great. Install it with synaptic02:47
_M4Ldrukuartic, wine is the other way around. that is from windows to linus02:47
VR`thanks guys02:47
brennerVR`: spread the word02:47
rukuartic_M4Ld, Are you trying to run linux on windows, or windows on linux?02:47
mikebothow can i uninstall nicotine?02:47
qferret_M4Ld, you can "write" an app for windows using gedit if you like....compiling is another story.02:47
VR`will do02:47
VR`brenner can i do this with any source?02:48
_M4Ldqferret,  ic.02:48
rukuarticmikebot, Did you install with apt-get?02:48
_M4Ldrukuartic, no, i would like to write an app in linux and run it in windows.02:48
mikebotrukuartic, probably, yeah02:48
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rukuartic_M4Ld, Try Cygwin maybe...02:48
_M4Ldrukuartic, ok i'l check it out.02:49
rukuarticmikebot, dpkg -list | grep nicotine02:49
brennerVR`: afaik, aything with a makefile, yes02:49
_M4Ldthanks qferret & rukuartic02:49
rukuartic_M4Ld, XD I hope I actually helped02:49
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rukuarticmikebot, Sorry, its actually dpkg -l | grep nicotine02:50
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Reg|sterhow can i install amsn whit the file program ?02:50
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mikebotrukuartic, ii  nicotine                               1.0.8rc1-1.1 graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-pe02:51
IdleOneReg|ster> sudo apt-get install amsn02:51
rukuarticmikebot, Yep you installed it with apt-get02:51
EnglaVR`: making a package adds some features but loses you some else. For example, making a package, it makes sure you don't overwrite files belonging to another package. Some 'make install' (few) applications depend on being able to do that though, so that will not work with checkinstall. However I think it's a good feature to have that level of control.02:51
rukuarticmikebot, apt-get remove nicotine02:51
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VR`Engla i see02:51
qferret_M4Ld, ....not looking good for the home team02:51
rukuarticmikebot, D'arg. sudo apt-get remove nicotine02:52
VR`Engla one more qustion... it says instead of sudo make install, use sudo checkinstall. what do i use instead of make and ./configure02:52
mikebotrukuartic, hhe thanks a lot02:52
_M4Ld:)02:52
EnglaVR`: just the same02:52
rukuarticmikebot, No problem :)02:52
qferretgood to know...I'll be there eventually.....still on console apps right now, so I can submit source code and it will compile under either OS02:52
EnglaVR`: so it's "./configure; make; sudo checkinstall"02:52
VR`Engla great, thanks02:53
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rukuarticWow. Apt-get just said it had super cow powers.02:53
_M4Ldqferret, i'l try anjuta02:53
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qferretIt's actaullay a good IDE, but I don't know if it will compile a Windows exe02:53
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Fabledoes neone else have probelsm with a onbaord gig lan02:54
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Reg|steriam geting this one Package tcltls is not installed.02:54
rukuarticFable, I did a while back... What, doesn't want to work?02:54
Reg|sterIdleOne,  apt-get install amsn dont work  dont think i have the urls or some thing02:55
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mikebotjon_, do i have to config anything to get frostwire to connect?02:55
IdleOneReg|ster>  did you enable universe and multiverse?02:55
Reg|sterno how do i do that ?02:55
TrinitrogenIs anybody elses Wireless really shady? sometimes I have to bring down and up and down and up my wireless device to findally get online?02:55
IdleOne!tell Reg|ster  about repos02:55
rukuarticTrinisan, Using ndiswrapper?02:55
IdleOneReg|ster>  follow the link in the msg ubotu  just sent you02:56
dm_!mountiso02:56
ubotuTo mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint02:56
Fablerukuartic: well it works sum times and not others... i can get google up and then later on it wont work at all... i have tried configuring my ip and dns and all that sorta stuff but it just hates to browse the net02:56
Trinitrogenrukuartic: you talking to me?02:56
rukuarticFable, Try forcing it to run under 100 mbps02:56
jon_mikebot, You shouldn't have too.02:56
Reg|sterok :)02:56
Fablehwo do i do that02:56
rukuarticTrinitrogen, I meant that XD02:56
rukuarticFable, Unfortunately, I have no clue.02:56
Fablelol02:56
Fabledw then02:56
IdleOneReg|ster>  when that is done try the amsn command again and it should work :)02:56
rukuarticFable, I know how to do it in windows02:56
mikebotjon_, hrm, cause it doens't connect02:56
Fableah02:56
Trinitrogenrukuartic: i don't even know what XD is02:56
Fablenah i want to get rid of windows02:56
Fablebut it aint gtunna happen if i cant browse02:57
rukuarticTrinitrogen, How did you get your wireless working?02:57
Fablemaybe dapper drake will have it fixd02:57
jon_mikebot, Do you have a firewall running?  Because I don't know what Frostwire uses port wise, but it'll use something ;)02:57
rukuarticFable, ask around to see if anyone knows how to make your card work at 100 mbps only02:57
VR`Engla sorry to bother you again. is there possibly a list of all the libs that are required to build stuff from source? i kinda had to learn the hard way that i need libgtk, libglib and build-essential02:57
jon_mikebot, But I must admit, I was just leaving, so good luck, and I apologize.02:57
rukuarticjon_, he's university. They probably block ports02:57
mikebotjon_, hehe, no, but i'm behind a school network, but i have no trouble connecting to soulsseek02:58
mikebotjonas3, when iw as on windows02:58
Trinitrogenrukuartic: On campus its "easy". theres WPA encryption with Thawte certificates and stuff, things I could never figure out. luckily some nerd in the Linux Users group here figured it out, and using his guide I put together a script. 80 percent of the time, it works all the tim02:58
Fablek02:58
rukuarticCan anyone reccomend a good firewall?02:58
Fableanyoine know how to make my gig card work at 100mbs only!!!!!!!!!!!02:58
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Fable:D02:58
IdleOnerukuartic>  your router will all the ports blocked02:59
rukuarticTrinitrogen, try running this command: "ndiswrapper -l"02:59
Trinitrogenrukuartic: but at home, theres people with open wifi's I try to connect to, but its always dramatic, involving me uping and downing eth1, activating and what not02:59
IdleOnebut try firestater02:59
mikebotargh02:59
mikebotanyone here use frostwire?02:59
XiCillindoes gnome have a cron gui?02:59
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rukuarticTrinitrogen, Uh, wireless is wlan, not eth.02:59
Trinitrogenrukuartic: not on mine02:59
Trinitrogenrukuartic:.... I don't think...02:59
rukuarticTrinitrogen, And if they're someone elses, you better have permission02:59
rukuarticTrinitrogen, But usually you'll get shaky signals if you're even a house down03:00
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Trinitrogenrukuartic: they are my fraternity brothers and Im the reason there internet works... consent is implied ;)03:00
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Fableanyoine know how to make my gig card work at 100mbs only!!!!!!!!!!!03:00
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rukuarticTrinitrogen, Someone microwaves something... turns on a 2.4 ghz phone...03:00
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rukuarticFable, Definately not the way to ask the question...03:01
Fable:D03:01
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Fableand y do u say that03:01
Fable:P03:01
IdleOneFable>  more info . like the type of card03:01
Fableumm hang on03:01
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Buckuntuok, I'm having problems getting any sound out of VLC, anyone know about this issue?03:02
rukuarticFable, Compare that to, "Hey, I'm having trouble with my 1000mpbs ethernet card. It doesn't seem to work for (reason) and I see these (symptoms). Could anyone help me?"03:02
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IdleOneFable>  more info you can give about your issue the more help you will get03:02
IdleOneor what rukuartic  said :)03:02
rukuarticTrinitrogen, You could always search for home made wireless signal boosters/receptors... be careful though. Not my fault if you fry an eyeball :P03:02
Fablemy onbaord gig is a Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC03:03
mikebotif anyone is running limewire or frostwire, i would appreciate it if they could check the incoming port they have it set to listent o, and let me know, thanks03:03
Fableand i wuld like to get it to run at 100mbs only03:03
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rukuarticTrinitrogen, I use gkrellm with a wireless plugin... helps me see my current speed/resident noise/signal strength etc03:03
_M4Ldqferret, can you recommend a site for me to read about the installation of anjuta. all i can see in my searches are tutorials03:03
rukuartic_M4Ld, Does it come with a README/INSTALL file?03:04
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joelw23can lame be obtained through synaptic03:04
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_M4Ldalthough, i haven't unpack it yet. hahahah.03:05
rukuarticjoelw23, I don't know. Did you use the search button? :P03:05
_M4Ldsorry. i forgot about it.03:05
mattwestmhow long does it take for my smb servers to show up under network?03:05
bimberijoelw23: yes, if you have multiverse enabled03:05
rukuarticbimberi, Nice save! :O03:05
bimberi_M4Ld: anjuta is in the repositories btw03:05
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bimberirukuartic: :)03:05
rukuarticbimberi, And again! :O I'm being shown up.03:05
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Durkai lost all sound how can i fix this plz help :o03:05
joelw23how do i enable multivers03:06
IdleOnelame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB03:06
hatake_kakashi!tell joelw23 about multiverse03:06
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bimberi!tell joelw23 about multiverse03:06
Durkahow do i get my sound back03:06
_M4Ldbimberi, ic. thanks i'l check it.03:06
Durkaits not working any more03:06
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rukuarticDurka, Whatd'ja do to make it stop?03:06
Durkaill i did was alasmixer03:06
Durkaand i mic boosted03:06
Durkanow it dont work any more03:07
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Henry_Beanhi, somebody could synchronize a Palm E2 whith g-pilot?03:07
joelw23is this bad03:07
joelw23W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:07
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jetscreamerdo apt-get update first03:07
jetscreamersudo style that is03:08
bimberi!us03:08
ubotuus is, like, a mirror that's often quite broken. Pick a better mirror from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:08
jetscreamerah03:08
Durkaso do i have to reinstall03:08
IdleOneDurka>  probably not03:08
TrinitrogenOkay, I just reinstalled GRUB into my MBR from a Ubuntu Live CD, and now I need to edit my menu.lst file to reflect the new partition linux is on... how do I mount it and edit it?03:09
joelw23jetscreamer: you talking to me??03:09
Durkais there a way to fix it03:09
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IdleOnejoelw23>  sudo apt-get update03:09
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joelw23do i check souce & binary for mulitverse03:10
joelw23ok03:10
bimberijoelw23: binary is enough03:10
Durkai cant seem to get the sound back03:10
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Durkaany ideas03:10
Reg|stersome one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?  i asked this for some time ago but my firefoxed closed and now i cant find it agen03:11
bimberiTrinitrogen: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/disk && sudo mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/disk'  (where hd?? is the partition that has /boot ('sudo fdisk -l' might help with that)03:11
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Durkawtf im gonna reinstall03:12
Durkacuz this is retarded03:12
Durkais there a better distro for gamers?03:13
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burnervery light on resources saved for games :)03:13
Trinitrogenbimberi: Am I going to need to modify my fstab too?03:13
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Durkaso xubutu is better for games?03:14
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burnerdepends on the games you play i'd suppose03:14
Durkabut i never seen any reviews for xubutu03:14
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burnerapt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:14
polpakDurka, I don't have any problems w/ games in ubuntu03:14
bimberiTrinitrogen: yes, if it isn't pointing to the correct devices03:14
burnerhttp://burner.ath.cx/screenshots.jpg03:14
burnerhttp://burner.ath.cx/screenshot.jpg03:14
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burnerwhat kinda sound card Durka?03:15
Trinitrogenbimberi: wheres fstab at03:15
Durkaagere ac97 integrated03:15
burnerDurka, what type of files you playin?  what app?03:15
bimberiTrinitrogen: /etc/fstab03:15
Durkathere are no sounds what so ever no clicking or that crazy ubuntu music03:15
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burneruhh... can you play music with rhythmbox or something?03:16
Durkai was playing music ealiear but it dont work cuz the sounds not03:16
burnerbeep-media-player, xfmedia, quodlibet, amarok, xmms, etc?03:16
burnerwhat does it say?03:16
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Reg|stersome one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?  i asked this for some time ago but my firefoxed closed and now i cant find it agen03:16
goodboyhello i want to instal gaim-1.5.0.x86.package03:17
burnerDurka, system->preferences->sound and pick the right sound card?03:17
goodboyhow i can do that03:17
duckdownHi all.. I'm running Dapper 4, but no matter what I do I cannot get my SSL IRC servers to work.. I have installed all kinds of *ssl* packages like libssl, openssl, etc. and have MULTIPLE IRC clients with SSL-support, yet, whenever I connect to an SSL IRC server it just seems to hang on the connecting part.. It doesn't exchange certificates or what not.. What do I need to do get this working? Can someone please he03:17
burnergoodboy, chmod +x on it and double click it... though a .deb package is prolly a better idea03:17
bimberiduckdown: #ubuntu+103:17
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polpakgoodboy gaim is installed in ubuntu by default03:17
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Durkathere is only one sound card and it still dont work03:18
kidemHey does Ubuntu come with Front end for Iptables ? or FW03:18
burnerDurka, is the module loaded?03:18
burnerDurka, what is the error given by music apps?03:18
goodboyi want to add protocol paltalk in gaim who have any idia03:18
burnergoodboy, you a developer?03:18
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goodboylike as msn yahoo icq.....................................03:18
rob_if i am installing a program, from an .sh file, where would be the best directory to put it in, so then i can just run the name of the program from the terminal03:18
goodboyno03:19
Durkawhat module03:19
bimberikidem: not by default, but firestarter (for example) is available in the repositories03:19
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kidemthx03:19
goodboybut it is possible03:19
Durkathere is no error03:19
Durkathe sound just stops03:19
kidemis it aptitude firestarter or something like that03:19
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bur[n] ergoodboy: it is?03:19
Durkaive read this happens in this distro03:19
goodboyyes03:19
Durkathats why many ppl dont like it03:19
bimberikidem: sudo aptitude install firestarter03:19
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rob_any suggestions...?if i am installing a program, from an .sh file, where would be the best directory to put it in, so then i can just run the name of the program from the terminal03:19
goodboyi know one programe do that but not working whiht me name glib03:20
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bur[n] errob_: best bet is to use apt... if that cannot be done.. /usr/bin is a good place03:20
duckdown /usr/local/bin03:21
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systemofadownhello03:21
=== bimberi 's method is to install into /opt and create shortcut(s) in /usr/local/bin to the executable(s)
kidemits said nothing matching Firestarter?03:21
systemofadowni intalling unbuntu as we speak! ;)03:21
bimberikidem: you will need the universe repository enabled ...03:22
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rob_how would i remove a program, that i installed with a .sh file?03:22
bimberi!tell kidem about universe03:22
systemofadownbecause of a year with gentoo i've had enough03:22
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bimberisystemofadown: your cpu needs a rest? :P03:22
teddahi can anyone help me, who do i format a floppy disc?03:23
Xeon3Dis there a channel for ppc-based ubuntu talking? :)03:23
bimberitedda: Applications -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter03:23
Falstiusmkfs.vfat /dev/floopy ?03:23
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teddalol me feel stupid tnx :)03:23
bur[n] errob_: gedit the .sh file and see what it does :)03:23
kzchi... i having a trouble with openoffice and with wine... (openoffice not running if it isnt with root -and it's no a problem with the permissions of OO- and wine send me a problem with X -and it is well configured casue the rest of programs are running good-) i think that both prob are the same... but i have no clue where to start. Any ideas? :-S03:24
bimberitedda: np :)03:24
bur[n] errob_: there is no "one answer" for what a .sh file does as they vary widely and can do anything03:24
Reg|sterhow do i get 2 programs to play sound i know its some thing like MIx03:24
rob_oh alright03:24
rob_hmm03:24
kidemhey what other ones that might be in that, cause firestarter isnt one of them, they have to have a front end to iptables03:25
FalstiusReg|ster: if they will both use ESD that is the easiest way.03:25
tristanmikerob, what was it that you installed?03:26
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Reg|sterFalstius,  i had a url from this chan earlyer but i lost it and there i had to install some media player and somethign els03:26
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blaylock!mp303:28
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:28
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IdleOne!ops in offtopic03:28
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne03:28
FalstiusReg|ster: sorry, I don't know.03:28
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Reg|sterdamn03:28
Falstiuskidem: apt-get install firestarter03:29
theeo123good evening03:29
Genfoogd ev. 2 u 203:29
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panzerfirestarter what do it ????03:29
theeo123Does anyone have a moment, to help me with a small DVd problem?03:29
Genfoostart a fire?03:29
Genfoo:o03:29
Genfootheeo123, whats the problem03:29
thewayofzenAny dapper users having issues with the gnome trashcan  permanently deleting any files that you drop there even if it is set to ask first before permanent deletion03:29
Falstiuspanzer, it is graphical front-end to iptables03:30
thewayofzentheeo123,  rent garden state it wont disapoint :)03:30
kidemanyone used shorewall03:30
kidemis it ok good03:30
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panzerFalstius aa ok thanks03:30
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esponjahola a todos03:30
theeo123I've got a DVD, apperently made using UDF, it has a single Tar.gz archive that's 2.4 gig on it03:30
esponjasoy nuevo en linux03:31
Xeon3Desponja, speak english please.03:31
Reg|sterfound it :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%2903:31
theeo123everytime I try to read the disk it says it's empt,y  if I make a image file og the disc, and try to open it with archive manager, I get a 0 byte file..03:31
Falstiusesponja: try #ubuntu-es03:31
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vincenzHow do I turn of the touchpad?03:31
theeo123does anyoen know a way to get this file?03:31
esponjai'm not speak english03:31
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Xeon3Desponja, tenta entrar en #ubuntu-es porque la hablan espaol.03:33
kzcesponja... te dicen que vayas para #ubuntu-es (canal en espaol)03:33
kidemIs shorewall GUI?03:33
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Xenguykidem: no03:34
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Arafangionkidem: No, but it's a very much simplified set of configuration files.03:34
theeo123It's a backup I made myself, I didn't realise, that linux would have problems with UDf when I burned it...03:34
Xenguykidem: but it is a fine firewall :-)03:34
ArafangionXenguy: Seconded.03:34
Kubesup03:35
Xenguykidem: the documentation is also well done IMO03:35
Kubeanybody uses KMess here?03:35
kzcsomeone has any idea with my prob?03:35
Arafangiontheeo123: I don't think I have had much success with udf with *any* os.03:35
Arafangiontheeo123: Windows requires special addon software for that specific type of udf (There are several variants)03:36
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theeo123I didn't burn it under windows03:36
theeo123I burned it under linux, using K3B03:36
Xenguykzc: you can't run OOo as a normal user?03:36
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kzcno...03:37
cualquierahola!!!!!03:37
Falstiuskzc, maybe your ooffice configure files are owned by root.03:37
cualquieragente linda---03:37
cualquieranecesito ayuda03:37
Falstiusor atleast not by you.03:37
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Xenguykzc: did you install by package, or from source?03:37
kzcno... i looked in the page. and i found many ppl having the same trouble03:37
Arafangionkzc: It is a *very* bad practice to run programs as root when you don't need to.03:37
kzcpackage with synaptic03:37
cualquierahello03:38
Xenguykzc: that is certainly odd03:38
IdleOne!es03:38
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:38
biovoreArafangion: you mean like 90% of windows users do?03:38
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cualquierasomewhan can help me?03:38
Arafangionkzc: Try deleting your ~/.openoffice.org2 directory.03:38
kzci know... so i dont use it... i use abiword until i solve the issue03:38
Arafangionbiovore: No comment.03:38
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IdleOnecualquiera>  /j #ubuntu-es03:38
theeo123AH HA!!! Eureka03:38
Falstiustheeo123, what did it take?03:39
kzci did it... and nothing... same... and i reinstall the hole package03:39
kzcsame03:39
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theeo123Aperrently ISO-buster runs decently enoguh under wine,  not goign to need it ever agian but it will work long enoguh for me to get my backup :)03:39
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Xenguykzc: the issue shouldn't be an issue though -- have you been changing system permissions or otherwise altering the default Ubu install?03:39
theeo123Note to self,  never eve,r allow K3B to enable UDf agian....ever...03:39
Arafangionkzc: Reinstall? Isn't it already been installed?03:39
XiCillinwho here is going to upgrade to Dapper with apt-get dist-upgrade?03:39
kzcyes... but i tried all that i could think...03:40
FalstiusXiCillin, I probably will.03:40
XenguyXiCillin: when it is time, of course03:40
Arafangiontheeo123: imho, if one is using udf, a cd burner program shouldnot be neeccessary - just raw mount.03:40
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bimberiXiCillin: i'll use this - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html03:40
XenguyXiCillin: that is the strength of Debian/Ubu: install once, and upgrade forever :-)03:40
kzcmaybe i put a little work to destroy everything....03:40
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sinaduelI need help, I need a straight answer, I need someone who will actually run me through things03:40
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theeo123wel li was in K3B burning backups, and it gave me a message "K3B has detected single files larger than 2 gig, these will not burn properly unless you enable UDF, do you wish to enable"  yes/No03:41
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sinaduelI cannot write DVD's that are readable on DVD players03:41
Arafangionkzc: Well, what happens when you try to run OOo?03:41
theeo123if i selected no it cacncled the burn03:41
david_hello03:41
jetscreamerquit writing PAL to use in NTSC or vice-versa03:41
david_just testing this out03:41
XiCillinXenguy, yea, just wondering cus i've heard people have problems upgrading (well, when its int testing mainly)03:41
Xenguykzc: the real question is: what is the causing this problem which shouldn't happen in the first place?  What has been changed that would cause this?03:41
rukuarticHi david_03:41
kzcnothing... ot start to think... and then stop--- when i run from bash... same without any message03:41
theeo123It was my own error in judgment to mace archivesthat big, I wasn't really thinkign about it03:42
rukuarticCan anyone reccomend a fairly easy to use and configure firewall?03:42
sinaduelI have avi's and vob files, I try using the programs people have told me about on here, but nothing works03:42
kzccan i pvt u xenguy?03:42
jetscreamerqdvdauthor will generate usable scripts that you can cut&paste out of... the scripts don't actually seem functional, but the commands in them are.03:42
XenguyXiCillin: upgrading before release is a risky idea; once dapper has been released, then it is a no-brainer :-)03:42
ArafangionXiCillin: Most people don't have problems unless they use a "mixed" system, or upgrade to known unstable systems (such as Debian Sid)03:42
sinaduelI have even converted vod files to an ISO but still, when I burn, it doesn't work03:42
jetscreamerand you need to convert the avi's03:42
sinaduelvob*03:42
vincenz!trackpad03:43
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz03:43
Xenguykzc: in channel please (for the benefit of everyone, including you :-)03:43
vincenz!mousepad03:43
ubotuvincenz: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:43
vincenzanyone know how to disable the mousepad?03:43
Xenguykzc: (thank you for asking BTW)03:43
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kzcyes... ok...03:43
bz0bhey guys03:43
rukuarticxenguy, know when drake'll be out?03:43
kzcwell... i change the sudoers...03:43
IdleOne!dapper03:43
Xenguyrukuartic: april isn't it?03:43
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update03:43
kzcto run the root without sudo03:43
bz0bpass03:43
jetscreamersinaduel: i seem to have the best luck using the commands generated by qdvdauthor (atm)  also, you can't play a PAL vid on and NTSC player03:43
rukuarticXenguy, Great b/day present :D03:44
kzcso i have to do sudo su03:44
Xenguyrukuartic: :-)03:44
sinaduelI know that03:44
Arafangionkzc: Not a great solution.03:44
sinaduelI understand PAL and NTSC03:44
kzcno... now i know03:44
sinaduelI have burned a ton of DVD's on Windows03:44
sinaduelbut, on Linux, anything I burn doesn't work03:44
bz0busing illeagle pirated software03:44
bz0b:-)03:44
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Xenguykzc: aha, that starts to explain things a bit03:44
kzcbut... im new... so i start to practice03:44
rukuarticbz0b, There's nothing wrong with a sick national bird of America03:45
Xenguykzc: can you change the sudoers file back?03:45
Arafangionkzc: So, as a user, what happens when you run oowriter2?03:45
kzcyes03:45
sinaduelI need a program that will burn vob, bup, and ifo files03:45
sizzami think i lost my icon that shows you when system updates are available.  how can i get that back (or check to see if its running)03:45
kzci did it03:45
jetscreameri've told you what works for me sinaduel , i'm still working on the pal->ntsc thing though. (i just cut&paste the commands qdvdauthor genrates)03:45
sinaduelI know nero does, so what do I use on linux03:45
bz0brukuartic, i know :-) oh trust me i know03:45
jetscreamermy audio is always off :(03:45
jetscreamerfor the conversions03:45
Xenguysizzam: run sudo update-manager03:45
bz0brukuartic, i had to dban my hard drive 8 times so no one else would know03:45
kzcbut now... it is not the same... and all is the same...03:45
kzci can use sudo... but oo doesnt work03:45
rukuarticbz0b, dban > shred I guess03:46
Arafangionkzc: Define "Doesn't work".03:46
rukuarticbz0b, OH! Dave's boot/nuke?03:46
Xenguykzc: hrm03:46
jetscreamersinaduel: if you have the dvd structure already, k3b does a good job burning it03:46
jetscreamerworks here03:46
Xenguykzc: is this a new install BTW?03:46
sinaduelI have tried k3b, time, and time again03:46
sizzamXenguy, that showed me that there are updates avaiable, but the notification icon isnt showing up in the area next to the date03:46
bz0brukuartic, umm is that what it stands for? the harddrive scrammbler03:46
rukuarticbz0b, I figure, worst case, I have a shotgun in my basement03:46
Xenguysizzam: IC03:46
sinaduelplease, elaborate on how I burn those files with k3b03:46
kzcjust oo start "thinking" and then nothing03:46
kzcand i mean NOTHING03:46
Xenguysizzam: GNOME?03:46
sizzamXenguy, yes03:47
bz0brukuartic, i have connections from the middle east :-)03:47
kzcwithout message... without nothing03:47
bz0bJK ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE READING THIS FBI03:47
Arafangionkzc: What does: ls ~/.openoffice.org2 -lah say?03:47
sizzamXenguy, i just looked through the settings in update-manager, i see an option to check for updates every x days, but i dont see anything about enabling the icon03:47
kzclet me see...03:47
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jetscreamersinaduel: you used the 'new video dvd project' option in k3b, eh? (works just fine here)03:48
jetscreamerworked just fine yesterday actually03:48
sinaduelit doesn't have that on k3b03:48
jetscreamersinaduel: right click in the lower pane and add it03:48
bz0bumm, i want a better distro03:48
dm_i cant get WoW to run right ... GAH ! i hate booting into windows03:48
Xenguysizzam: I'm not exactly sure what mechanism is used to automatically run update-manager, but someone here must03:48
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kzcit says 3 lines... two of my user and the user dir is root03:49
IdleOnesizzam>  I believe the icon only shows when you have updates that need to be installed..not 100% sure03:49
Arafangionkzc: There ya go.03:49
Arafangionkzc: delete the entire ~/.openoffice.org2 directory03:49
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kzcok03:49
tristanmikedm_, you should hate the companies for not giving you, the consumer, a method to run your purchaced software03:50
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tristanmikedm_, on linux that is03:50
ryanakcahmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994503:50
jetscreameryou should only buy idsoftware games03:50
Racer5Hello.03:50
sizzamIdleOne, i do have updates that need to be installed03:50
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IdleOnesizzam>  in terminal type sudo apt-get update03:50
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jetscreamerhey look it's ted03:50
sinadueljetscreamer: thankyou, thankyou for explaining, no one else ever did03:50
jetscreamersinaduel: np been there, usually03:51
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Racer5How do I mount a samba share drive?  I tried using the mount -t smbfs option but its giving me an error.03:51
kzcok... its done...03:51
tjsanyone know how to stop shift+backspace terminating gxl when running compiz + gnome?03:51
kzci have to start it now?03:51
sinadueljetscreamer: it asks to seperate the files into audio and video, which are these files?03:51
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Arafangionkzc: Can you verify that those directories are actually deleted?03:51
JRWRdoes ubuntu support installing onto a ite821x card03:51
tjscompiz rocks, other than I'm constantly killing it by mistake in this way03:51
kzchow i do that?03:52
Arafangionkzc: "ls -lah ~/.openoffice.org2/"03:52
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ryanakcahmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994503:52
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jetscreamersinaduel: just put the .vobs and the .ifo's in the video dir k3b made in the bottom. i've never put anything in the audio directory03:52
Arafangionkzc: Also check that oowriter and related programs are not running, then start oowriter2 again as a user, NOT as root.03:52
jetscreameraka put the dvd structure in the video directory03:52
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kzcok03:52
jetscreamerthere is encode video, and then there is also make new video dvd project, when you right click in that lower pane03:53
Arafangionkzc: And be aware that using su and sudo, will generally NOT update the environment variables, so things that look for HOME and other variables, will be using yours.03:53
JRWR does ubuntu support installing onto a ite8212 IDE card03:54
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IdleOneJRWR>  hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:55
ryanakcahmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9945     (sorry if I'm repeating this too often... I<m using ircii or whatever its called on the knoppix live cd, and I'm not sure if my question is still you your screens :S)03:55
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ogionnjCan someone give me a hand with configuring my ethernet card?03:57
jetscreamerryanakca: i haven't looked yet but i think youre talking about grub not fstab03:57
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ogionnjeverything worked fine from the live cd, but when I installed, it doesn't connect03:58
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diego2khi03:58
ryanakcajetscreamer: yes, I<m trying to get grub to work... I copied all of my stuff onto a bigger hard drive with symantec ghost, and it doesn't want to boot :(03:58
diego2ksomeone can help me with dmraid?03:59
jetscreamerryanakca: examint /boot/grub/device.map03:59
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jetscreamerryanakca: no guarantees that udev won't change it on you after you edit :) muhahahaha03:59
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jetscreamers/examint/examine/03:59
kzcok... now i do it all... and same problem04:00
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JRWRIdleOne: it lists no ide cards at all04:00
jetscreamerogionnj: what happens if you do sudo ifup eth004:00
ogionnjjetscreamer: interface eth0 already configured04:01
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kzc(and now i know that my trouble with wine is just the same)04:01
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kkkkis there any off topic places around here?04:02
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diego2ki have an ASUS mobo A8N-VM with 2 WD CAVIAR SATA2 and can't get it to work with breezy04:02
ryanakcakkkk: #ubuntu-offtopic :)04:02
Xenguykkkk: ubuntu-offtopic I think04:02
kkkkthanx04:02
jetscreamerogionnj: then it seems to be functional. (up) . do you use dhcp or static or what04:02
ryanakcajetscreamer: udev^04:02
dm_ASUS Notebooks > ALL04:03
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dm_too bad i cant afford on04:03
kkkkubuntu-offtopic04:03
dm_one*04:03
jetscreameri 'detest' udev04:03
saifwhat do u call apps like thonar and nautilus? what should i look for in order to change from nautilus to thonar in gnome?04:03
jetscreamerand uninstalled it, ymmv though.04:03
jetscreamerfile manager?04:03
XenguyArafangion: as much as I hate to suggest it, should he just reinstall - what do you think?04:03
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kzcwell... i think on it xen04:04
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ogionnjoops :)04:04
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ogionnjjetscreamer:  Right now, DHCP.  But I tried static, too04:04
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Xenguykzc: that is a 'last resort' suggestion - only if nothing else fixes the problem :-/04:05
VictorFade!helpme network connection04:05
ubotuVictorFade: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:05
jetscreamerogionnj: is your gateway correct?04:05
ryanakcagah... bbl... I<m going to try with the install disc...04:05
ArafangionXenguy: I don't agree.04:05
jetscreamercan you ping anything?04:05
diego2kno one knows about raid config?04:05
Xenguy!dsl04:05
ubotufrom memory, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE04:05
XenguyVictorFade: ^^04:05
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ogionnjnope04:06
XenguyArafangion: I tend to agree with you disagreement :-)04:06
VictorFadexenguy ??04:06
ogionnjAnd no addresses visible from ifconfig04:06
Xenguyyour*04:06
ArafangionXenguy: I'm fairly sure that his troubles are caused by running gui programs as root, which on ubuntu apparently trashes your ~/home.04:06
Xenguy!tell VictorFade about dsl04:06
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kzci know... also... if i had to... i will ask a good place to start with the variables of environment... cause i dont know anything about it04:06
Arafangion~/, I mean.04:06
GauDoes the Ubuntu PPC LiveCD(5.04) have a disk repair utility?04:06
XenguyVictorFade: FWIW04:06
VictorFadei'm not using dsl04:07
XenguyArafangion: ahh04:07
VictorFadewhat it mean - FWIW?04:07
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diego2kok thanks04:07
jetscreamerfor what it's worth?04:07
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XenguyVictorFade: for what it's worth04:07
jetscreameri can't remember yet where you set the gateway, ogionnj04:07
VictorFadeso can you help?04:08
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VictorFadefor some reason i reinstall ubuntu04:08
ogionnjI set the gateway in the network settings to my router04:08
metrixI installed ubuntu in a "weird" way in that Installed ubuntu hoary up to the point that it asked about downloading packages. I stopped the installation, I dist-upgraded to breazy and then installed ubuntu-desktop. EVERYTHING is great except I don't have sound! does anyone have any ideas about what I should try to fix it?04:08
XenguyVictorFade: if you need dsl help, see the msg ubotu sent (or: /msg ubotu dsl)04:08
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VictorFadeok...04:08
ogionnjBut netstat -are doesn't show a damn thing!04:09
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metrixis there a gstreamer reconfiguration? is there a way if I can see if gstreamer is actually getting sound?04:09
tristanmikecan we get an op in ubuntu-offtopic ?04:09
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Xenguy!ops04:10
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee04:10
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Xenguytristanmike needs an op in #ubuntu-offtopic04:10
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jetscreamerogionnj: paste your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere (i bet it uses hotplug scripts)04:11
naliothXenguy: taken care of04:11
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V4Vendettawhen i do sudo killall gtkpod04:11
Xenguynalioth: tx04:11
V4Vendettait doesn't get rid of it04:11
V4Vendettaif i open a new one it says the old one is running04:11
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metrixthe pid file may still be out there, or it's not being killed by kill.. try kill -9 pid first04:12
ogionnjI can't paste it.  No network.  But I see "mapping hotplug\n script grep\n map eth0"04:12
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XenguyV4Vendetta: 'pkill' is another option (I find it seems to worth better sometimes than 'killall')04:12
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XenguyV4Vendetta: s/worth/work/04:13
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jetscreamerogionnj: you could try adding auto eth0 right above iface eth0 inet dhcp, i've had to mess with it before... seems to me that i commented everything out though... and it's not like that atm. still, the line is there.04:13
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ogionnjThere's already auto eth0 at the end of the file04:14
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Racer5I have a mount point created in /mnt.  If i access it as root I can write to it, but my regular account can not.  How do I set it so I can write to that mount point?04:15
kzcwell... ppl... thx for all. at least now i know where to focus. :d that's good...04:16
kzcbye all04:16
Xenguykzc: good luck04:16
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packman_ehello all04:17
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paradizelostHey all.  i'm trying to get squirrelmail loaded on breezy04:17
kzcXenguy: thx Arafangion: thx04:17
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Gau:(04:17
paradizelosthow do i access it?04:17
jetscreamerogionnj: no idea then. you say your gateway isn't configured though, so that's where the problem is i guess.04:17
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ubuntuhello04:18
ogionnjMaybe.  I have to look at this interface file.  It's new to me.  I'm a redhat boy :)  At least until now.04:18
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ogionnjThanks for your help jetscreamer04:18
vincenzHow do I disable the touchpad?04:18
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_jasonvincenz, easiest way is to do it in bios, that's how I do it04:18
paradizelostCan anyone help me w/ squirrelmail?04:19
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xreedim a current windows user and want to know some reasons to switch to linux04:19
GauAny Ubuntu PPC users here?04:20
jetscreamerogionnj: it probably doesnt matter, but my auto eth0 line is about the iface one04:20
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vincenz_jason: besides that?04:20
Xenguyxreed: do you like licenses, viruses, and spyware?04:20
packman_ei don't suppose anyone knows anything about video conversion.  basically i have converted a .avi file to .mpg (vcd compatible format) but any time i burn it to disc and play it, the film's audio and video drop out of sync part of the way through. does anyone have any ideas on what the problem is please04:20
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Xenguy!windows04:22
uboturumour has it, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative04:22
Xenguyxreed: ^^04:22
xreedhow do i talk to just one person04:23
ArafangionHow the heck does one run <insert windows  proggie> on Qemu, without windows?04:23
Xenguyxreed: why talk to 1, when you can talk to 600-700? :-)04:24
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paradizelostdoes anyone here know how to access squirrelmail once i've installed it?04:24
XenguyArafangion: heh, good point - xen doesn't even run d0ze (yet)04:25
Arafangionparadizelost: refer to /usr/share/doc04:25
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paradizelostthe stuff in /usr/share/doc is all standard squirrelmail info.04:26
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XenguyV4Vendetta: is that movie directed by W. Bros. BTW?04:26
paradizelosti found the squirrelmail directory under /usr/share/squirrelmail, but i cannot find a way to access it through a web page.04:26
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V4VendettaXenguy~ dunno, i think maybe04:27
pab1guys, what is a popular backup sw that will do incremental?04:27
paradizelostnormally, when i install squirrelmail, in gentoo, it shows up under /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/04:27
XenguyV4Vendetta: I think I need to find out more :-)04:27
Arafangionpab1: tar04:27
pab1booo04:28
XenguyV4Vendetta: yep :-)04:28
Arafangionpab1: I personally wrote a set of scripts that uses cron, cp and rsync, but they are not in a state that can be given to other people.04:28
wastrelit has natalie portman04:28
mikebotcan anyone here recommend a nice to-do list for ubuntu?04:28
mikebotsimple but nice design?04:29
pab1hmmm04:29
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Arafangionpab1: tar does work well - but it helps to not mix tar versions (ie, standardize on gnu tar)04:29
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Arafangionpab1: And tar _does_ do incremental.04:29
pab1Arafangion: does rsync have a switch of some sort that will do incremental?04:29
Arafangionpab1: rsync is by definition incremental. It keeps two directories in sync.04:30
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Arafangionpab1: Transferring the smallest amount required to bring them in sync.04:30
pab1Arafangion: its not working as incremental for me then :/   im just using "rysnc -av"04:30
bz0banyone seen that new g2p04:30
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bz0bif you like p2p, then g2p is even better, google to peer04:31
Arafangionpab1: I use cp -lpr to link files.  rsync will *unlike* before changing the file.04:31
Xenguypab1: there are some (too many?) good backup options...04:31
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Arafangionpab1: Thus, you have a number of incremental backups, but they magically appear to be "full" backups.04:31
pab1Arafangion: ya i know04:31
Xenguypab1: rsnapshot is one that I've heard good things about04:32
Arafangionrsnapshot is probably very similar to my system.04:32
pab1Arafangion: i think im kinda looking for something that is used in a corporate setting  (Free though, of course)04:32
Xenguypab1: I haven't tried it myself, as I still using my crappy homemade script (hey, diskspace is cheap :-)04:32
pab1Arafangion: hehe04:33
Xenguypab1: if corporate, then perhaps bacula or amanda ?04:33
Arafangionpab1: tape drives and tar. ;)04:33
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pab1hmmm04:33
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venoxhah04:34
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venoxwhere does this ubuntu livecd store my files?04:34
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venoxI've copied lots of mp3 from my other computer to this and I'm playing them from my home directory04:35
tonyyarussoCan I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?04:35
venoxdude, this is crazy. it's more than 100mb of files.04:35
pab1I think im gonna toy with tar again04:35
pab1ill start simple04:35
Reg|stersome one know how to use ventrillo on ubuntu?04:35
pab1thanks Arafangion and Xenguy for the advice04:35
Xenguypab1: apt-cache search backup04:36
Xenguypab1: yw04:36
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tristanmikeReg|ster, there is no native linux client yet, you may want to try Wine04:36
tristanmikeReg|ster, to get ventrillo to work that is04:37
Reg|stertryed that but geting codex problem04:37
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ozzloyi'm having trouble with sounds.  in gaim i can play sound in preferences, but it won't actually play when i get IMd04:38
tristanmikeReg|ster, use TeamSpeak?04:38
rukuarticozzloy: Didja set it to beep you only if you're away?04:38
Reg|stermy guild is using ventrillo so will get boring talking to my self on teamspeak04:38
TheronHow do I expand the desktop to my second monitor?04:39
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tristanmikeReg|ster, lol, yeah, not native client yet, I'm pretty disapointed, same with xfire04:39
tristanmike*no04:40
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Reg|sterhavent it been linux slott on the ventrillo site for ages but just says under developent or some hitng04:40
Reg|stersomething04:40
rukuarticStill looking for someone to help me find a good linux firewall...04:40
Ven] n^http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/ipw2200/04:41
Ven] n^which should i get?04:41
Toma-i just finished building my new PC, and it wont boot.... no warning beeps, no flashing lights, it powers up but wont boot. VGA card isnt coming on either04:41
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Ven] n^im running on pentium m04:41
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Theronrukuartic, guarddog - I think it uses iptables.. not sure though04:41
AmaranthToma-: RAM or CPU04:41
Toma-Amaranth, CPU is brand new04:42
rukuarticTheron: Hmm?04:42
bz0bi am trying to burn a audio cd, with mp3 files, what would i have to do?04:42
AmaranthToma-: pull the RAM, see if it beeps04:42
Toma-ok04:42
AmaranthToma-: If it doesn't, the CPU or mobo is dead04:42
varshey i installed kernal blah de bla -686   and i should have done -386   am i going to hell?04:42
Amaranthso?04:42
bz0bvars, what kind of processor04:42
varshave i just landed myself in a world of shi*t04:42
bz0blol04:42
TheronToma-, probably check too that all the cards are fully seated04:42
Amaranthvars: You don't have something newer than a pentium 2 or k6-2?04:42
bz0bi am trying to burn a audio cd, with mp3 files, what would i have to do?04:42
varsceleron, but i had -386 kernal installed04:43
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bz0bdo i need to convert the mp3's to wav format or something?04:43
Theronrukuartic, http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/04:43
rukuarticvars: take a look at /proc/cpuinfo04:43
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rukuarticTheron: Oh, thanks :P I thought you were talking to someone named guarddog04:43
Toma-no beeping when ram is out.... CPU and mobo are brand spanking new04:43
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Theronrukuartic, no prob.. :)04:43
varsi am trying to install a gforce 5500 and i am having a hellof a time04:44
TheronToma-, are all the pci cards, ide cables etc. seated fully?04:44
Toma-ill triple check.04:44
varsi followed the !nvidia04:44
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rukuarticToma-: Suggestion, don't know if it'll help. Yank what you don't need. (Graphics, Sound, Network?)04:44
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GauCan someone tell me how to mount a hard drive under Ubuntu?04:45
neoginn1hello all04:45
rukuartic!mount04:45
ubotufrom memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:45
TheronToma-, check too that you didn't crack the mobo or ram04:45
RedRosewhat is the Defacto for IRC servers?04:45
RedRosewhat is the recommended irc server?04:45
rukuarticRedRose: I think this is it, at least thats the one it said in xIRC :P04:45
neoginn1can someone tell me how i can get a team together to help me build a fitness database?04:45
XiCillinthat upgrade-manager that people are testing now, should it show you can upgrade to Dapper now?04:46
XiCillinor will it tell you on the 20th?04:46
TheronHow do I expand the desktop to my second monitor?  I have tried googling too.04:46
ozzloyrukuartic: i got it working now, thanks04:46
rukuarticozzloy: Good job :) No problem04:46
rukuarticozzloy: Took me weeks XD04:46
RedRosewhat is the Defacto for IRC servers? i'm looking to run my own IRC server...04:47
TheronI think it probably has something to do with my xorg.conf file.. but I have made all the appropriate edits afaik04:47
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tonyyarussoTheron: (caveat: never done that)  I've seen that before, and I know there are two major tools for it.  One is better than the other.  One is xinerama.  I don't know which of the two that is.  Hopefully someone can tell you the second...04:48
Theronty tonyyarusso04:48
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ozzloyrukuartic: hehe04:48
Amaranth!dualhead04:48
ubotuAmaranth: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:48
Amaranthdang04:48
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Aaron_Mason!wine04:48
Theronlol04:49
lali_anyone help  me with a samba related question ?04:49
TheronI'll get er done somehow04:49
Aaron_MasonDoes anybody here know how to trick wine into thinking its W2K?04:49
Aaron_MasonI'm trying to run PEBuilder04:49
lali_i have smb hooked up to a windows machine and i wanted to put a file on the windows machine04:49
lali_i type "put /blah/blah"04:49
lali_says file does not exist04:49
cafuego!listvals xinerama04:49
Ven] n^difference between noarch and src?04:49
ubotuFactoid search of 'xinerama' by value (1 shown): xinerama.04:49
XiCillinor will it tell you on the 20th?04:49
XiCillinthat upgrade-manager that people are testing now, should it show you can upgrade to Dapper now?04:49
Toma-Ok. taking it to the PC shop. i dont wanna toast anything :(04:49
cafuego!xinerama04:49
ubotuhmm... xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome04:49
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KenMastershello04:50
cafuegoAmaranth: There ya go.04:50
cafuego!listvals mergedfb04:50
djs_2_6Hey all.  Anyone familiar with a Sun Netra T1 105??04:50
ubotuFactoid search of 'mergedfb' by value returned no results.04:50
cafuego!listvals mergefb04:50
ubotuFactoid search of 'mergefb' by value returned no results.04:50
KenMasterscommand talk is no run ... what happend04:50
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Aaron_Masongot it, nm04:50
KenMastersmsg "Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused. Press any key."04:50
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neoginn1anyone try installing DB2 or oracle successfully on ubuntu? becuase if you have can someone tell me where i can find a tutorial on that.04:51
Theronlali_, try this site: http://www.transgaming.com/04:51
lali_ok04:51
lali_thanks man04:51
Theronnp04:52
lali_but isnt that for games ?04:52
ozzloyi have some quiet wav files, how do i make them louder?04:52
ozzloyi remember there being a command line utility to do this04:52
tristanmikelali_, yeah04:52
Theronwell, I think it has some options for letting you choose which windows flavor to use lol04:52
djs_2_6Hey all.  Anyone familiar with a Sun Netra T1 105??04:53
neoginn1no04:53
Theroncrossover office might work too, lali_04:53
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rukuarticCan anyone link me to some resources about securing down my computer?04:53
lali_lol04:53
lali_theron bro thats not my question lol04:53
lali_my question was with samba04:53
lali_have you used samba before ?04:53
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Theronlali_, I have.  forgive me for being lame04:54
Amaranthrukuartic: ubuntu defaults to no ports open to the outside world04:54
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Theron:|04:54
lali_it sok bro04:54
Amaranthrukuartic: nothing left to secure04:54
lali_hrm.. do u know how to04:54
lali_put files ?04:54
Theronno04:54
rukuarticAmaranth: How do ports open then?04:54
lali_onto a windows directory ?04:54
rukuarticAmaranth: Eg: Running apache/hlds/ssh04:55
Amaranthrukuartic: you install server software04:55
tonyyarussoGrr.  Network manager doesn't do so hot with trying to switch from ethernet to wireless connection seamlessly.04:55
Amaranthrukuartic: those are open when they're running04:55
vars!nvidia04:55
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:55
Amaranthrukuartic: but a default desktop doesn't have those04:55
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KenMasters!talk04:55
ubotuKenMasters: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:55
Theronmaybe.. copy/paste?  isn't it writeable lali_ ?04:55
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mattwestmis there any way to not let a user view any files except his home dir?04:55
rukuarticAmaranth: What do you think would be the biggest/most common mistake to make when starting otu with your first server?04:55
Amaranthmattwestm: not really04:55
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Amaranthmattwestm: you can make it so they can't view other users files04:56
mattwestmAmaranth: I am trying to make my ftp more securt04:56
cafuegorukuartic: webmin04:56
mattwestmsecure*04:56
Amaranthrukuartic: changing the defaults without understanding them04:56
rukuarticcafuego: I thought it was that config thing that nobody likes... XD04:56
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rukuarticAmaranth: :)04:56
cafuegorukuartic: Well, nobody runs redhat ;-)04:57
Amaranthmattwestm: ftp is different, you can make it so they can't go higher than their $HOME04:57
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Amaranthmattwestm: but ftp itself is insecure04:57
mattwestmAmaranth: where do I change that $HOME?04:57
Amaranthmattwestm: depends on the ftp server04:57
pab1anyone have experience using dump?04:57
mattwestmvsftpd04:57
Amaranthmattwestm: i don't know how to do it with any of them04:57
Amaranthi use ssh/sftp, much more secure04:57
tallmfhey guys-how can I unmount my IPOD in Ubuntu when I want to remove it from the dock?04:58
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mattwestmI may try that04:58
tallmfthis is really annoying04:58
Amaranthmattwestm: with that they'll be able to see other dirs and files04:58
Amaranthmattwestm: but they can't change them04:58
jbroometallmf: right click on the icon, unmount04:58
tallmfit says I dont have permission because Im not the root04:58
rukuarticjbroome: that is if you're in gnome04:58
Amaranthmattwestm: and chmod 701 /home/<user> makes it so no one can get a file listing of that dir04:58
jbroomedoh04:58
rukuarticjbroome: sudo unmount maybe?04:59
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tallmfjbroome, umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda2 from /media/sda204:59
tallmfeject: unmount of `/media/sda2' failed04:59
Amaranthmattwestm: but allows apache to access /home/<user>/public_html so websites still work04:59
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logical_markHey guys. I am trying to boot the live CD on my Acer Travelmate 3000 and it continues to freeze when it searches for CD Drives. Any ideas?05:00
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logical_markTo add to what I said, I am using a firewire CD Drive05:00
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rukuarticlogical_mark: How do you mean? It freezes at boot, during boot, or while you're in ubuntu?05:00
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logical_markrukuartic, I never get into Ubuntu. It gets passed where it says "uncompressing kernal" and then it asks for the language and crap. Then it freezes saying "No common CD-ROM was detected"05:02
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AngryElfI have an 8x dvdr (i forgot what the cdr speed is) and it's currently burning a cd at 8x even tho i set cdrecord speed=12, why is it burning so slow??05:02
khafraMy mouse randomly stops responding, but only in x, not when playing a game.05:02
khafraI have to unplug and replug it to make it work05:02
rukuarticlogical_mark: no using internal drives?05:02
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logical_markrukuartic, I wish. My laptop is an ultraportable so all I can use are external. And it came with an external firewire cd burner which is what I am using05:03
Theron!xinerama05:03
ubotufrom memory, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome05:03
rukuarticlogical_mark: Eh... The only thing I can think of is going into the BIOS and making sure you have things set up right...05:04
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rukuarticlogical_mark: I just throw out random suggestions that usually don't work T_T I need to learn more before I start talking.05:04
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logical_markrukuartic, thanks anyway05:05
rukuarticlogical_mark: Good luck getting it runnin'... Try USB drives maybe...05:05
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khafraWhat about me?  Don't I even get wished good luck, let alone advised?05:05
rukuartickhafra: Thats becuase my cookies just got out of the oven and you get the first steaming hot one.05:06
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rukuarticwftp khafra /dev/oven/cookie105:06
logical_markOk guys I have a question. The wireless card on my laptop is not detected by Ubuntu so I was going to use ndiswrapper to install the driver using my windows .inf file, but when I look at the properties of the wireless card in windows under the dirver info it just has a .sys file. What do I do?05:07
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anto9uslogical_mark, copy the entire folder containing the .inf and .sys files to your linux partition and use ndiswrapper to load the .inf file05:07
GauI wish this computer had a pointing device, especially since it's running Windows XP05:08
logical_markanto9us, so I just need to copy the entire folder that has the .sys file?05:08
rukuarticlogical_mark: There's something on the wiki that'll help you find your driver... A lot of drivers that came with cards have drivers that work not so well in linux...05:08
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anto9uslogical_mark, yes, the inf file tells ndiswrapper to use the sys file05:08
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Solefaldhello all.. are there pre-packaged SMP kernels? i mean i dont mind building one myself, but i am surprised to see absense of smp enabled kernel in Dapper05:08
anto9usSolefald, they're in the repositories, yes05:09
Solefaldhm... really? i did not see it at all05:09
bimberiSolefald: linux-686-smp and linux-k7-smp05:09
Solefaldoh.. i was looking for linux-image-2.6.15 blah05:10
Solefaldthanks05:10
bimberiSolefald: np, btw linux-image-... should come in as dependencies of those05:10
Solefaldbut now i cant get to that box because sshd is not installed by default :(05:10
bimberiSolefald: yep, ubuntu installs with no external listening ports05:11
mattwestmwhat user is in use when you go on an apache website?05:11
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Solefaldbummer.05:11
Solefaldmattwestm: shoudl be nobody/nogroup if you compile by hand05:12
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Aaron_Mason!bochs05:12
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason05:12
Aaron_Mason!listvals bochs05:12
ubotuFactoid search of 'bochs' by value returned no results.05:12
Aaron_Masonwhat ubuntu package would I need for Bochs sdl support?05:12
mattwestmSolefald: I used apt-get to install apache205:12
bimberiSolefald: www-data on ubuntu05:12
Solefaldmattwestm: ah. dont know... i always compile apache05:13
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Aaron_Masonnm, i saw it :(05:13
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bimberioops, mattwestm ^^^^ (sorry Solefald)05:13
rukuarticIs anyone else using Linux in a completely console environment?05:14
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anto9usrukuartic, I know some that do05:15
Solefaldthis is the first time i installed ubuntu actually. ive been running debian for years, but i got this new job and have to use Exchange but evolution-exchange is jacked in sid.05:15
emacsenAnyone know what I need to get /proc/bus/usb/devices ?05:15
kdittymy linux installed OS isnt working correct, and im on ubuntu live cd, the other os is ubuntu 5.10 and i need to know if there is a way to grab a file from the desk top of that HD partition from this live cd. can anyone help me?05:15
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rukuarticanto9us: Can ya reccomend any programs that'd make life a little easier?05:15
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Solefaldemacsen: usb support05:15
anto9usrukuartic, read up on screen05:16
kdittyi need some information about my network settings there, and i couldnt get them to a cd or floppy to transfer over live cd05:16
emacsenSolefald: specifically what?05:16
rukuarticanto9us: Usin' that XD05:16
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Solefaldemacsen: it depends on what you are trying to do. plus you need /proc filesystem support enabled in the kernel05:16
emacsenSolefald: well I'm using the Ubuntu kernel05:16
anto9usrukuartic, join #ubuntu-offtopic and seek out Razor-X, he never shuts up about his console05:17
emacsenSolefald: so assume I've touched nothing05:17
Solefaldemacsen: do you have anything in /proc at all?05:17
rukuarticanto9us: Bwaahaha thanks!05:17
emacsenSolefald: yes, just not the devices file in bus/usb05:17
kdittynot to mention i dont know how to gain root access, which is keeping me from writign files to portable media for transfer05:17
rukuarticanto9us: I think I've found my best friend there...05:17
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Solefaldemacsen: does /proc/bus/usb exist?05:17
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emacsenSolefald: yes, it's empty05:18
bimberiSolefald: i've just been checking and you are right, no smp kernels in dapper (yet), linux-686-smp depends on linux-image-686.  Definitely there in breezy though, and dapper when it releases.05:18
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bimberiSolefald: (April 20)05:18
Solefaldbimberi: thanks. ill just complie my own tomorrow. i need to unload some of that stuff anyway :)05:18
newtoubuntuCan anyone recomend a p2p program for ubuntu05:19
Solefaldemacsen: so do you have any USB devices plugged in?05:19
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emacsenSolefald: yes. I'm trying to get information about it05:19
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emacsenspecifically the vendor and device id05:19
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Solefaldemacsen: if you have hald/dbus installed ubuntu should find them and load the drivers on its own05:20
newtoubuntuany body know of one (a p2p program)05:20
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ithicinenew2ubuntu: download and install automatix.  It offers two handy p2p apps: aMule and Azeurus, off the top of my head05:20
varshey how do i test my graphics card?05:20
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varsglx-gears?05:20
Solefaldvars: plug a monitor into it.05:20
newtoubuntuithicine: oh cool thanx05:20
emacsenSolefald: well let's assume it didn't. Do you actually know or are you thinking I'm dumb and going through the baby steps?05:20
varsyeah it worksthen05:20
varsi am having a hellof a time getting an invida installed, should i just reinstall ubuntu?05:21
vars--- my distro is a littel f**** anyway05:21
tristanmikenewtoubuntu, don't install automatix05:21
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Solefaldemacsen: lol. no.. but you can try to "modprobe usb<tab>"05:21
newtoubuntuoh why not?05:21
tristanmike!tell newtoubuntu about automatix05:21
tristanmike!automatix05:21
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.05:21
emacsenSolefald: okay, why didn't you just say "I don't know anything more than you, but I'll happily waste your time..."05:22
emacsenSolefald: sometimes not helping is more helpful than leading someone down a path that you don't know05:22
ithicineubotu: sure it's unsafe.  For people who know to care... for a newbie I'd say it's fine, though05:22
ubotuithicine: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:22
newtoubuntuok sure man, I was this close to double clicking the link05:23
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anto9usemacsen, lsusb will list connected usb devices05:23
tristanmike"for people who know to care" ? what does that mean?05:23
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newtoubuntuyea I know??05:24
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shivthis is my directory where my yahoo messenger is for Wine. Now how do I start it?05:24
shiv/home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger05:24
Solefaldheh... the thing is that i know a little more than this guy... at least i dont know on irc to ask how to get /proc/bus/usb/devices file. lol05:24
ithicinetristanmike: people new to Ubuntu (or Linux, or anything for that matter) are generally not ready to worry about things like configuration files05:24
tristanmikenewtoubuntu, there are many p2p apps, what in particular are you looking for?05:24
Solefaldwhatever. im out05:24
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tristanmikeithicine, what :?05:25
newtoubuntutristanike: anything that combines networks, and is simeple (gUI)05:25
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tristanmikeithicine, all the more reason not to put them in a position that will send them here saying "I used automatix, now my box is borked"05:25
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newtoubunturight, hey, just simple suff you know.05:26
Theron!xinerama05:26
uboturumour has it, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome05:26
ithicinetristanmike: I've yet to see automatix break anything.  Sure it's a kludge, and it does some ugly things, it certainly won't break a new system05:26
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Theronwhere do I send feedback about ubotu?05:27
tristanmikeithicine, well, if you haven't seen anything then I can't say anything, my experience here has been quite different05:27
Theron!feedback05:27
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Theron05:27
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Amaranth!owner05:27
ubotuAmaranth: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:27
Amaranthbleh05:27
Amaranthanyway, cafuego05:27
tjswhat do people use to capture video of their xsession?05:27
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tjshow do people make screencasts under linux?05:27
ithicinetristanmike: which version(s) of automatix?  which Ubuntu?  never heard of this before05:27
Amaranthtjs: vnc2swf is popular05:28
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tjsooh05:28
bimberi!who's your daddy05:28
ubotucafuego05:28
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newtoubuntuSo is someone going to recomend somthing05:28
tristanmikeithicine, breezy, alot of java problems05:28
tristanmikenewtoubuntu, limewire?05:28
billdbagginshow can i install gcc-3.4 on 5.1005:28
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kdittymy ubuntu iso file was labeled 6.1005:28
kdittyis that possible?05:28
bimberibilldbaggins: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.405:28
ithicinebilldbaggins: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:28
tristanmikebilldbaggins, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:28
newtoubuntuyea, I know, but it only runs one network, does shareaza work on Linux05:28
tristanmikenewtoubuntu, not sure, sorry05:29
Amaranthnewtoubuntu: get giFToxic05:29
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newtoubuntuIs GiFToxic good?05:29
ithicinetristanmike: odd.  I've used it on a few systems and it never gave me trouble.05:29
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billdbagginsadmin@inspiron6000u:/tmp/wifi/ieee80211-1.1.12$ sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:29
billdbagginsReading package lists... Done05:29
billdbagginsBuilding dependency tree... Done05:29
billdbagginsE: Couldn't find package gcc-3.405:29
newtoubuntuwhy is GiFToxic Good05:30
Theronanyways, using !xinerama worked, using twinview for nvidia.. had to add resolution 2 times, no wonder 2nd monitor was blank.05:30
tristanmikeithicine, it's not absolutely horrible, great idea, and in the right direction. check out this comparison http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html05:30
Amaranthnewtoubuntu: it uses giFT, which can connect to OpenFT, Gnutella, Ares, and FastTrack (kazaa)05:30
bimberibilldbaggins: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin05:30
newtoubuntuOh awsome cool05:30
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bimberi!tell billdbaggins about pastebin05:30
ithicinebilldbaggins: try http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories05:31
ithicinebilldbaggins: then follow the previous instructions on installing gcc-3.405:31
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Installer36Theron > is that for veiwing the same picture split into two monitors?05:32
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TheronInstaller36, sure is :)05:33
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ithicinetristanmike: thanks, never even heard of EasyUbuntu... I'll check out more05:33
Installer36Someone was just telling me about that ..found it interesting05:33
tristanmikeithicine, no problem :)05:33
naliothbilldbaggins: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin05:33
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TheronInstaller36, yeah.  It's in Section "Device" where the resolution needs to be there 2 times05:34
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Installer36Do the monitors have to be the smae make and model?05:35
Theronnope05:35
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Installer36I think I have a new project to try .05:35
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Installer36Thanks05:36
Theronyou're welcome05:36
Theronanyone know if aol and linux play nice together?05:36
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mlanzapardon, the interruption... newbie here, may I ask a quick question?05:36
Theronno05:36
Theronyes05:36
mlanzaok...05:36
Theronof course you can, just don't ask to ask05:37
Theronjust ask :)05:37
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AmaranthTheron: there is pengu but basically no05:37
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mlanzaI created a dual boot Windows 2000 / Ubuntu Linux machine.  I want to change GRUB's menu.lst file but cannot...05:37
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mlanzais there an easy way to overcome the "read only" permission...05:37
Theronmlanza,  what happens when you try?05:37
Theronooh, sudo man, sudo05:37
mlanzaI cannot find out how to logon as "root" but I read I should NEVER do this.05:38
frank23I want to change my home directory location,   will  sudo cp -R /home /newlocation   work? then I change the mount point for /home05:38
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mlanzaI am in Ubuntu now, and I cannot change the menu.lst file (READONLY).05:38
Theronsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:38
mlanzaIt says I am not the owner, "root" is.05:38
Theronright05:38
anto9us!tell mlanza about sudo05:38
mlanzaI assume that's a shell command?05:38
mlanzaWhere do I enter this?05:39
Theronyes, open your terminal05:39
Theronapplications, accessories, terminal05:39
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Theron!sudo05:39
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:39
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mlanzaThat did it, so far... wait a sec.05:40
mlanzaOK, got it -- Thanks! -- one more question...05:40
mlanzaAny books you recommend for a Linux (Ubuntu) newbie?05:41
Theronno05:41
mlanzaok, well thanks!05:41
tristanmikemlanza, check out linuxcommand.org05:42
Theronnot really, just google alot05:42
wiccidnuman pages05:42
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ithicinemlanza: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu05:43
frank23anyone? I want to change my home directory location,   will  sudo cp -R /home /newlocation   work? then I change the mount point for /home05:43
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homer9all you... ubuntu user... what is the best security model to run ubuntu... as secure as possible./05:43
chuckypwow irssi is cool.05:43
chuckypneed to get terminal to display at 800x600 now though.05:44
highvoltageirssi++05:44
Amaranthfrank23: no, /home is 'special'05:44
highvoltagechuckyp: you mean you're running it in a virtual terminal?05:44
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chuckyphighvoltage: ctrl+alt # etc.... all in low res.05:44
wiccidnuanyone get digital optical sound from nf7-s motherboard working in ubuntu?05:45
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ithicinefrank23: it'd be helpful to know why you're trying to change your home directory location... unless you mean to move it between partitions or hard discs, I wouldn't do anything05:45
frank23Amaranth: how do I copy files while preserving the owners and permissions?05:45
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frank23I want to change the hard disk /home is on05:45
chuckypAnyone know how to change the resolution in terminal?05:45
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chuckyphighvoltage: do you know what I mean.05:45
Theron!backup05:46
ubotuFor information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131105:46
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Theronfrank23, try that05:46
ithicinefrank23: ahhhh.  Is it already on a different disc than your root directory, or are you trying to move it to a new one you added?05:46
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frank23ithicine: its already on a different partition than the root directory, I want to move it to yet another partition which is much bigger05:47
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ithicineah, okay.  do you have the larger partition already mounted?05:48
frank23ithicine: yes05:48
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ithicinefrank23: cp -Rp /home/* <destination>05:51
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frank23ithicine: ok.  can I unmount home while logged in? how can I do the switch?05:52
ithicinefrank23: sorry, stop that.  Forgot something05:52
frank23ithicine: haven't done anything yet ;)05:52
ithicinefrank23: good :)05:53
ithicinefrank23: cd /home05:53
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ithicinefrank23: find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/05:53
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ithicinefrank23: those commands should properly copy everything05:54
nadia007good evenin!05:54
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frank23ithicine: where did that come from?05:54
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logical_markHey does anyone here know how to get the Logitech Fusion webcam to work. PLEASE.05:55
nadia007anyone here successfully configured their wireless to authenticate with WEP?05:55
frank23ithicine: and how do I exclude lost+found ? does that matter?05:55
ithicinefrank23: your home directory probably contains all sorts of special goodies like hard links, soft links, and all sorts of other stuff05:55
Healot!webcam05:55
ubotuit has been said that webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.05:55
ithicinefrank23: lost+found shouldn'05:55
ithicinet matter05:55
Healotthere you go... logical_mark05:55
shivI just installed wine. I am a newbie. I also installed yahoo messenger just to try it. Now how do i RUN IT? i HAVE NO CLUE. Plz help...05:55
logical_markHealot, we will see- LOL05:56
cello_raspwine /path/to/program/exe05:56
nadia007!wifi05:56
ubotuI guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:56
Healotwhat you're laughing about, that's really your thing to figure out :)05:56
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frank23ithicine: ok. did you come up with that command yourself? or where did you find it?05:56
ithicinefrank23: that weird command I wrote out will copy everything just as it is05:56
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nadia007ubotu... been there done all that... got wireless to work on networks not using any type of encryption.05:57
Psykusis there any way to disable the system beep and make it play a sound effect through the sound card instead?05:57
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ithicinefrank23: I moved my home to new partition myself an age and a half ago05:57
narzywhat do I have to do to get ssh on my ubuntu box?05:57
nadia007just the encryption that I'm having a really hard time!05:57
narzyI done forgot the command05:57
chuckypOkay how do you change the resolution in virutal consoles?05:57
narzyI know it's an apt thing...05:57
nadia007narzy, sudo apt-get install ssh05:57
Xenguynarzy: apt-get install ssh05:57
narzyfor some reason I thought it was openssh05:57
narzyLOL05:58
narzythat would do it.05:58
ithicinefrank23: make sure to change /mnt/newhome to whereever you have your new home mounted05:58
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fade_!helpme vi: how to save file05:58
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fade_05:58
ithicinefrank23: after that last command completes, make sure everything moved okay.  Just take a look and all that05:59
Healotthe key sequence is ':wq'05:59
jbeagleyDoes adept keep a log?05:59
chuckypfade_: hit esc then hit : then type a wq05:59
ithicinefrank23: now did you say your current home is on its own partition to begin with?05:59
fade_thanks05:59
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shivwhat is wrong here?06:00
frank23ithicine: no I'll just blame you when I realise I somehow lost everything ;)   yes /home is already on its own partition06:00
shivshiv@ubuntu:~$ wine /home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe06:00
shivbash: !/Messenger/ypager.exe: event not found06:00
Xenguyfade_: or ZZ06:00
nadia007fade, fyi w=write, q=quit... in future if you just want to quit with out saving changes.. just 'q'06:00
nadia007fade, other editor that's pretty cool is nano!06:00
cello_raspwine "/home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe"06:00
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nadia007anyone running wireless card?06:01
Xenguynadia007: vim is cool; nano/pico is functional :-)06:01
Healot':!q' to quit without saving changes06:01
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ithicinefrank23: haha :P  Next unount your *new* home partition, and reboot into recovery mode.  Ugly, I know, but it's the first thing off the top of my head guaranteed to work06:01
nadia007xenguy: lol, like everything in linux...  it's all about preference!!  ;)06:02
cello_raspvi is for boring people that can stand to memorise all those annoying, user-unfriendly command modifiers06:02
shivcello_rasp: same thing ...:( shiv@ubuntu:~$ wine "/home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe"06:02
shivbash: !/Messenger/ypager.exe": event not found06:02
ithicineerrrr... frank23: no!  Easier way06:02
Xenguynadia007: sure, though some editors are clearly more powerful than others06:02
cello_rasprename Yahoo! to Yahoo06:02
ithicinefrank23: sorry, it's late here.  haha06:02
newtoubuntuHey, my problem is that terminal won't let me type in my password.  It realy stinks!06:02
jbeagleydoes adept keep a log file?06:02
frank23ithicine: can't I change to single user run level or something06:02
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cello_raspshit: OR, use ../Yahoo\!/..06:03
cello_rasp*shiv*06:03
nadia007jbeagley, if it does, it might be in /var/log06:03
ithicinefrank23: once everything is copied just edit /etc/fstab to point your home directory mount to the correct partition06:03
jbeagleythanks, nadia00706:03
shivya06:03
newtoubuntuI realy need help about this06:03
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Xenguynewtoubuntu: be specific06:04
newtoubuntuThe terminal wont let me enter my password06:04
nadia007newtoubuntu, elaborate a little!06:04
billdbagginsnewtoubuntu, type it in and hit enter06:04
shivcello_rasp: plz see pastebin06:04
highvolt1genewtoubuntu: it doesn't show the password while you type (for security reasons)06:04
nadia007newto, you mean you can't see your characters on the screen?  This is normal!06:04
slindsayHello all, I'm running Breezy on an older Dell Latitude CPi A-series laptop, and I'm having trouble with the sound card module.  It's a NeoMagic NM2200 (MM 256AV) card.  I'm using the module "snd_nm256," and about 60-70% of the time I modprobe it, the computer hangs completely when it tries to map the memory on port 1.  If it doesn't hang, the sound works perfectly.  Any suggestions?06:04
highvolt1genewtoubuntu: (or the length, in stars, for that matter)06:04
newtoubuntuOh realy, that's confusing06:04
highvolt1genewtoubuntu: you'll get used to it :)06:04
billdbagginsnewtoubuntu, its for hax0r06:05
newtoubuntuthanx, man, I was trying to hit enter and type my password realy fast06:05
cello_raspshiv: url?06:05
nadia007newtoubuntu, security reasons...  no biggy.06:05
ithicinefrank23: then just drop into single user, umount /home, mount /home, and deal with your old home partition as you wish06:05
shivhi06:05
shivj #pastebin06:05
newtoubuntuI'm used to windows, so yea06:06
frank23ithicine: I don't remember how to change to single user. can you remind me?06:06
ithicinefrank23: feel free to do whatever after your new home device is mounted.  haha06:06
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nadia007slindsay, checked irq?06:06
logical_markHealot, turns out that the program Ubotu reccomended handles EVERY webcam EXCEPT like 4, and one of those 4 is mine06:06
nadia007logical_mark, lol...  just your luck!!06:07
slindsaynadia007, it's using IRQ 5, according to what modprobe spits out before crashing.06:07
Healothehe, you bought the wrong hardward then, logical_mark06:07
ithicinefrank23: ehhh... I'm thinking init 106:07
ithicinefrank23: lemme doublecheck06:07
nadia007slindsay, anything else using that irq?06:08
shivthen how do I run a simple program?06:08
ithicinefrank23: yeah, that's what I thought.  Obviously has to be sudo, though06:08
nadia007slindsay, perhaps pc card that is conflicting?06:08
frank23ithicine: init 1 ok06:08
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jariep1_hi all06:08
nadia007slindsay, just sounds weird that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  You have the drivers loading up when boot?06:09
slindsaynadia007, I just looked at everything in the "lspci -v" output and I don't see any other cards on IRQ 506:09
jariep1_was wondering if anybody has tried installing Reiser4 file system on ubuntu?06:09
Healotthen, it really the driver... maybe it's buggy... slindsay06:09
Psykusis there any way to disable the system speaker beep and make it play a sound effect through the sound card instead?06:09
slindsaynadia007, healot:  I'd found some stuff via google about problems with the driver, but nothing conclusive.06:10
Healotthen it is buggy...06:10
nadia007slindsay, tough to help... never really ran into that sort of prob.06:10
Healotslindsay, what kernel version are you using now?06:10
slindsaynadia007, I originally was loading the drivers at boot, but got tried of it hanging all the time, so I blacklisted snd_nm25606:10
Healotmaybe a time for upgrade?06:10
ithicinefrank23: when you're done in runlevel 1, just init 2 to get back to multiuser06:11
skeeganPsykus, maybe try turning off the pc speaker through the mixer06:11
nadia007slindsay, so what did you do to make the card work?  When you loaded the drivers manually?06:11
Psykussays its already muted06:11
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slindsayI'm running 2.6.1206:12
Healotupgrade slindsay, I would say06:12
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Healotor is there any form of the driver source outh there? try that could bring some change...06:12
slindsaynadia007:  to get it running manually all I had to do was run "modprobe snd_nm256".  If it worked (i.e. didn't crash out), the sound works great.06:12
slindsayHealot, always good advice. :)06:13
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firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to install a program which requires gtk+2.0. I looked in Synaptic and it shows gtk+2.0 as being installed, however, when I try to compile the program, it says gtk+2.0 is missing. What can I do to solve this problem?06:14
slindsayHealot, yeah, I think I'm stuck with trying to hack on the driver source a bit.06:14
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slindsayhealot, which should be fun and enlightening. :)06:14
ithicinefirebird619: you need the development libraries06:14
Healotfirebird619, you need "libgtk2*dev" -- for development...06:15
thewayofzenAs far as memory use is concerned.. should i use the info in   " top " as an indication of what resources im using RAM WISE for my system.. or should i go by  System -> Administration  -> System Monitor -> Resources..  which is FAR more generous06:15
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Healotthe libgtk that is isntalled is the runtime...06:15
logical_markHealot,  I don't think linux should determine which hardware I buy. An os should not limit you to that06:15
Healotslindsay, i had time with my gigabit ethernet before...06:15
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wastrellogical_mark:  it's not linux that's limiting you, it's the hardware manufacturer, for failing to supply a linux driver06:16
Healotlogical_mark, it shouldn't, but manufacturers aren't always cooperative//06:16
frank23ithicine: I had to get a root shell (sudo su) for your command to work. maybe  cpio needs its own sudo?06:16
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ithicinefrank23: sudo bash then do it from there06:16
firebird619Healot: How it is listed in Synaptic? I did a search in Synaptic for libgtk2-devel and it didn't find it.06:16
frank23ithicine: yeah its working now06:16
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Healotfirebird619, you're from REdhat world eh?06:17
sinaduelhow do I convert mid files to wav?06:17
Healotjust "dev", sir06:17
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Healot"libgtk2.0-dev" --- firebird619, it's debian world now :)06:18
mikebotwhere can i download somethign so that i can watch windows media player things in firefox?06:18
firebird619Healot: I used to use Red Hat, but now I use Ubuntu.06:18
frank23ithicine: thanks alot! If I had started with  man find and man cpio, I doubt I would be finished tonight!06:18
Healotyes, I know that... you're not the only one :)06:18
ithicinemikebot: someone was kind enough to inform me of EasyUbuntu earlier06:18
firebird619Healot: Thanks for the help06:18
gabauganybody know if links in an e-mail not opening in Firefox unless it's already opened is a known bug?06:18
ithicinemikebot: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/06:18
tristanmikeithicine, ;)06:19
ithicinemikebot: AFAIK, that should be able to give you the appropriate libraries06:19
ithicinetristanmike: haha... Let's use learning for evil!06:19
Toma-logical_mark, what webcam is it?06:19
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mikebotithicine, thanks, but what do i do with a *.bz2?06:20
logical_markToma-, Logitech Fusion06:20
Healotgabaug, that's not really a bug... you need to associate an e-mail client first... somewhere in Firefox or the desktop manager itself06:20
Toma-ok06:20
gabaugHealot: it is a bug, because it works if FF is already opened06:20
tristanmikemikebot, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer" should get you streaming video06:20
Healotmikebot, "bunzip2"06:20
ithicinemikebot: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz06:20
gabaugHealot: the bug is opening a http link in an e-mail in FF06:20
mikebottristanmike, Healot ithicine thanks06:21
Toma-logical_mark, its semi-working in the latest spca5xx drivers06:21
Toma-actually, linux-UVC06:21
Toma-sorry06:21
thewayofzenAny dapper users having problems with firefox automatically opening all archives.. and not really working well as far as "save link as" etc?06:21
thewayofzen** when using firefox06:21
thewayofzenim having to fetch the downloaded archives in /tmp06:22
Toma-logical_mark, http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices06:22
logical_markToma-, Thanks! I will check it out now!06:22
gabaugthewayofzen: save as is working fine for me (dapper+ff)06:22
ithicinelogical_mark: haha... spca5xx.  I'm using a webcam supported by those drivers, too.  You're going to need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx06:22
logical_markToma-, Actually I just looked at that, and have NO CLUE how to install it06:22
logical_markithicine, thanks. Will do. Is it TOO complicated?06:23
Toma-logical_mark, ahh, you need subversion, and make sure you compile with gcc-3.4, not the default 4.006:23
ithicinelogical_mark: not really.  It's just that you need to make sure to use gcc-3.4 and not gcc-4.006:23
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HealotYES, logical_mark, hehe :)06:23
thewayofzengabaug,  it works in certain locations in others its never there.. but i find it works fine in XP..   but anything like a gtk theme in tar.gz format on gnome-look.org will now only open in the archive manager.. where as in breezy it allowed me the option to save it to desktop06:23
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thewayofzenive configured firefox to ask me where to put everything first.. etc.06:23
davidX-anyone else having problems licq's dependants?06:23
ithicinelogical_mark: the link I sent really holds your hand through it06:23
Toma-ithicine, actually, if you read that table, its not the spca5xx driver that supports it...06:24
ithicineToma-: uh oh.06:24
logical_markithicine, I hope so. Here I go06:24
thewayofzengabaug,  the only other dapper problem im having is with the TRASH.   its set to ask me before deleting anything yet anything i drag to trash disappears permanently06:24
Toma-:)06:24
logical_markithicine, Toma- Healot, Thanks for your help06:24
gabaugthewayofzen: sure you don't have it set to automatically run tgz's? (prefs -> downloads -> view and edit actions)06:24
ithicinelogical_mark: hold on.  Might not be the spca5xx drivers you need.06:24
thewayofzengabaug,  that just started today though.. after the last batch of updates06:24
logical_markithicine, holding...06:24
mikebotum06:25
ithicinelogical_mark: what's the make and model of your webcam again?06:25
slindsayOn a completely different note, I have another, hopefully unrelated problem:  I'm using a Belkin wireless card (Broadcom 4318, revision2) with ndiswrapper (using BCMWL5.INF and .SYS).  Most of the time the wireless works great, but with WEP encrypted networks (haven't tried WPA), the gnome wireless tools fail completely.  They'll find the network, but it won't let me connect to it.  Instead, I've been using "iwconfig" and "dhclient" to set up the conne06:25
slindsayction but that seems to work only randomly.  I've had to run "iwconfig wlan0 essid default" up to eight times before it finally sets that field on the card.  Also, if the connection is disrupted in any way (requiring a repeat of the earlier steps), the system will crash hard when the it reconnects.  Any suggestions?  (Other than Belkin making proper Linux drivers?)06:25
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mikeboti downloaded easy ubuntu to my desktop, but am unsure as to what to do06:25
thewayofzengabaug,  the only options set in that field are QTL WM WVX FLI AU SPL06:25
logical_markithicine, It is a Logitech Fusion Webcam06:25
ithicinemikebot: Applications, Accessories, Termnal06:25
ithicinemikebot: type as I write06:25
ithicinemikebot: cd Desktop06:25
thewayofzengabaug,  there are no other actions set.. thats the problem im not even ABLE to set new ones.. create define or otherwise.  theres never an option since installing to do so.. its always since the cd install had a mind of its own.06:26
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Toma-logical_mark, youll need to follow these commands to get the UVC source http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=568106:26
mikebotithicine, i downloaded a .bz2, not a tar06:26
ithicinemikebot: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz06:26
tristanmikemikebot, just right click the file and select "Extract Here"06:26
ithicinemikebot: woops.  change gz to bz206:26
thewayofzengabaug,  having to fetch things in /tmp is a tad frustrating :)06:26
Healotmikebot, "bunzip2 <filename>"06:26
mikebottristanmike, i did that, but i don't know what to do after that06:26
logical_markToma-, after I do that, then what?06:26
tristanmikemikebot, cd into the folder06:26
sinaduelI need a program for kubuntu that converts mid to wav, does anyone know of such a program?06:26
mikebottristanmike, i opened the "Easy Ubunutu" file, and it asked for a password, then said i gave it the wrong one06:27
Toma-logical_mark, probably need to autogen.sh to create a configure script that you then run and so on06:27
tonyyarussoCan I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?06:27
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tristanmikebah! it's not packaged in a folder06:27
mikebothaha06:27
mikebotyeah, i put it in a folder before i did that06:28
Toma-tonyyarusso, most mic's have a boost option in the mixer settings06:28
logical_markToma-, I think all this is out of my league... I think I am going to have to wait until Ubuntu supports it out of the box or it becomes easier to do06:28
tonyyarussoToma-: All right, I'll look for that.06:28
tristanmikemikebot, you want to run the "easyubuntu.py" file06:28
thewayofzengabaug,  when i load this page for example  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26050  and i right click on DOWNLOAD and choose save as..  it wont download the tar.gz but actually i get download.php instead.06:28
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Healotlogical_mark, wait until Creative supports GNU/Linux :)06:28
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Healotnot the other way around06:28
Toma-logical_mark, :(06:29
Toma-logical_mark, it wont get into dapper. youll have to wait till october :/06:29
mikebottristanmike, oh okay06:30
mikebottristanmike, ah, that was easy, thanks06:30
ithicinelogical_mark: yeah, sorry.  Just confirmed it.  Your webcam's support by spca5xx is in the testing phase06:30
logical_markToma-, I have no clue what I am doing though. My learning curve is great and I am certainly not easily intimidated, but I don't think I should start playing with ALL this just to get the webcam working... You know06:30
tristanmikemikebot, did you use gksudo?06:30
ithicinelogical_mark: I'm checking to see if there's another driver at all06:30
mikebottristanmike, and this will allow me to watch windows media files in firefox?06:30
mikebottristanmike, no06:30
tristanmikemikebot, used just sudo?06:30
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mikebottristanmike, no, downloaded from website06:30
Toma-logical_mark, it sounds like its a pretty rare/fancy webcam right?06:31
tristanmikemikebot, no, sorry, I meant to install/use06:31
sagarpmy mute button doesnt mute anything...even when i go to preferences in the volume thing and select every channel06:31
mikebotjust double clicked?06:31
tristanmikemikebot, and it worked, well, there ya go06:31
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mikebottristanmike, well i can't install anythign by doing that, i get an error06:31
logical_markToma-, Its fancy yeah. But there is a fancier one, the Logitech Orbit, that seems to have support with EasyCam2, so it is frustrating06:32
mikebottristanmike, "must run the program as a root user"06:32
linux4allsagarp: does it do anything at all06:32
tristanmikeright, so "gksudo easyubuntu.py"06:32
tristanmikemikebot, ^^^^06:32
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ithicinelogical_mark: yeah.  You've only got the possibility of spca5xx and http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ to work with06:32
sagarplinux4all, no...but when i select everything (including PCM) and then change volume, the PCM is set06:32
mikebottristanmike, hehe okay, thanks06:32
ithicinelogical_mark: seems we're still waiting for better support for your webcam06:32
sagarplinux4all it works but not the mute, i guess06:33
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Toma-logical_mark, for the sake of yourself and others, email the driver people at logitech. ask for linux support. if enough people nag them, theyll have to start sharing code with linux driver writers06:33
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wall0159howdy all06:33
tristanmikemikebot, we used "gksudo" as opposed to just plain "sudo" because the action that required root priviledges was graphical06:33
linux4alldoes mute work when you mute it with mouse?06:33
logical_markithicine, Toma- thanks for all the help! I am emailing logitech (all addresses I found) right now06:33
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cyphasei have a strange problem with 3D06:34
mikebottristanmike, okay..06:34
Toma-superb :)06:34
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cyphasewhen i run that XGL Live CD (which obviously needs 3D support), it works fine06:34
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mikebottristanmike, ugh, errors:  in terminal: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz and a popup: Failed to run easyubuntu.py as user root:06:34
mikebot Child terminated with 1 status06:34
cyphasebut when running the ubuntu install on my drive, it crashed after a few minutes06:34
cyphaseany ideas?06:34
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linux4allbad cd?06:35
mikebottristanmike, the terminal error was: sudo: easyubuntu.py: command not found06:35
tristanmikemikebot, can you post the entire out put on pastebin06:35
Laohey guys, does anyone know what the minimum system requirements are to run Ubuntu?06:35
cyphaselinux4all, huh?06:35
mikebottristanmike, that was all of it06:35
linux4allbad live cd06:35
linux4allmaybe06:35
cyphaselinux4all, the CD is the one that works06:35
LaoI have an old pentium 2 that I was thinking about giving it a shot with06:35
cyphaseit's not ubuntu though06:35
linux4alllao: itll work06:35
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ithicinemikebot: I guess you didn't see the fix for extracting the file... it's not gz.  It's tar -xjvf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz206:35
mikebottristanmike, ijust want to watch windows media files06:35
cyphasebut the ubuntu install crashes after a few minutes06:35
cyphasewith 3d enabled06:36
Laoreally? I'm kinda shocked06:36
linux4allcyphase:  during install or after install06:36
tristanmikemikebot, i understand, but you can thank microsoft for making them legally cumbersome06:36
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Laothanks alot06:36
wall0159I have a question wrt my ipod mini on Breezy. My connection doesn't always work. When connecting via USB, (in dmesg) I sometimes get read errors, or 'cannot read partition table', and when I use FW, I just get 'Node changed:' but the pod doesn't mount. This only seems to be a prob when hot-plugging - when I boot the PC with the ipod plugged in, it seems to work. Are there known problems with ipod minis in Ubuntu Breezy? Cheers!06:36
mikebottristanmike, hehe06:36
cyphaselinux4all, a ways after install06:36
cyphaselol06:36
mikebotithicine, i extracted it as a bz2, not tar06:36
tristanmikemikebot, "sudo apt-get install subversion"06:36
cyphasei just got a new card and monitor06:36
ithicinemikebot: it's a tar file INSIDE a bz206:37
cyphaseor new to me anyway06:37
mikebotithicine, ah06:37
ithicinemikebot: but the files you need are inside the tar.  Under linux our archives are usually tar files contained inside gz or bz206:37
linux4allis ti the xserver that crashes? or the whole system06:37
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Healot"bunzip2" to unzio a bz2 file06:37
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tristanmikemikebot, bah, just right click on the dang file and select "Extract Here" and you can't go wrong06:37
ithicinemikebot: you get better compression that way.  The tar command understands this06:37
Healotthen untar it :)06:37
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mikebottristanmike, i did that06:38
tristanmikemikebot, then all the files should have been extracted06:38
slindsaylao, I'm running ubuntu on an old PII and it runs great (with the exception of some hardware driver problems -- performance is good though)06:38
cyphaselinux4all, the xserver crashes, then i get a screen with black on the top half and colored noise on the bottom06:38
tristanmikeand you shouldn't have a "tar"06:38
tonyyarussoLao: You might find something lighter like XFCE would work better than Gnome, but yeah, P2 should work.06:38
mikebottristanmike, they were06:38
linux4allwhat card are u useing?06:39
tristanmikemikebot, then ignore my rambling06:39
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mikebottristanmike, when i open the fodler on my desktop, i see the py, but when i ls it, i don't06:39
ithicinemikebot: Just find the directory called EasyUbuntu_2006-03-05 using your file manager and also be sure to read the README file that was also included06:39
mikebottristanmike, oh, yes it is06:39
cyphaselinux4all, nVidia GeForce4 Ti 440006:39
cyphaselinux4all, i'm using the DVI port06:39
tristanmikemikebot, I was going to say, I see it on mine, lol06:40
tristanmikemikebot, did you install subversion?06:40
linux4allgimme a sec...06:40
mikebottristanmike, heh, yeah i did06:40
mikebotithicine, i read it06:40
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mikebotithicine, but i don't have a .sh06:40
tristanmikemikebot, try the "gksudo" command again06:40
cyphasethe Live CD probably has more up to date drivers, sincew it's much newer the breezy06:41
cyphasesince*06:41
cyphasei don't know what version though06:41
mikebottristanmike, hehe i did ...06:41
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LaoI'm gonna try ubuntu and DSL06:41
tristanmikemikebot, did it work this time?06:41
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linux4alllao: ubuntu rocks06:41
klaxianhas anyone used ifrename?06:41
klaxiani'm having problems with it06:41
linux4allcyphase: breezy 5.1006:41
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ithicinemikebot: Sure you do.  The sh file is inside the EasyUbuntu_2006-03-05 directory.  It's called launchEasyUbuntu.sh06:41
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XaeroWhich is better Ubuntu or Kubuntu? is there any difference besides the desktop used? what about included software?06:42
klaxiani set up a lan and wan interface with it, but i can't access the internet with either06:42
tristanmikeithicine, not if he got the svn06:42
mikebottristanmike, Failed to run easyubuntu.py as user root:06:42
cyphaseXaero, the installe software depends on the distro06:42
wall0159Xaero, they're the same06:42
tristanmikemikebot, with "gksudo" ?06:42
ithicinetristanmike: sorry, didn't realize you had him get the subversion.  I'll let you take it from here06:42
cyphasee.g., gnome uses gedit, and KDE uses KWrite (i think)06:42
wall0159they're just preconfigured differently06:42
mikebottristanmike, yes06:42
cyphaselinux4all, yes06:42
mikebotithicine, i don't see it06:42
tristanmikeithicine, I think we'll be needing your advice my friend06:42
mikebotithicine, and i don't know which directory youa re talking about06:42
tristanmikemikebot, that's wierd06:43
Xaerowell Im asking if the KDE equivelents as good or better than Gnome's.. or would I need to get a 3rd party package?06:43
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ithicinetristanmike: ok06:43
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ithicinemikebot: let's take this from the top06:43
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wall0159Xaero - heh heh it depends who you ask ;-)06:43
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fade_!helpme ./configure06:43
ubotufade_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:43
wall01593rd party - that doesn't really make sense in a Linux context06:43
hexpersonhey06:43
mikebotithicine, okay, all i've done is downloaded the bz2, moved it into a folder, and right clicked > extract here06:44
fade_how to ./configure for amd64 processor?06:44
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tristanmikemikebot, "gksudo easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py"06:44
Laotrust me preaching to the chior, I'm converting a friend of mine who was a hard core Gentoo user and fedora to Kubuntu06:44
ithicinemikebot: ok... so that should have extracted some shiny new files.  What do you see?06:44
Agent_bobXaero 'as good'  'better'   'best'      no friend, it is all relative; and depands on your tastes06:44
wall0159sorry to harp on - could someone give me some pointers with my ipod mini? is this the best place to ask?06:44
hexpersonI have a NetServer LH3R and am wondering if it'll work with Ubuntu? Has dual Pentium III 500MHz processors, 1GB RAM, embedded graphics, 6 9GB SCSI HDs connected via a embedded HP NetRAID controller06:44
hexpersonwill that work?06:45
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linux4allcyphase: have you been to the ubuntu forums?06:45
ithicinetristanmike: I think we've got him trying to do the subversion and the latest snapshot at the same time06:45
mikebotithicine, well i don't see any sh's06:45
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tristanmikeithicine, I'm following the readme06:45
XaeroWell the Synaptic package manager is in Ubuntu... is it in Kubuntu also?06:45
hexpersontried suse 9.1 but it didn't detect the HD...so shoud that config work with Ubuntu?..06:45
tristanmikemikebot, did you try the command I just posted above06:45
cyphase:S briefly06:45
ithicinemikebot: do you see a new folder?06:45
frank23ithicine: the /home move worked. thanks!06:45
ithicinefrank23: np :D06:46
mikebottristanmike, yeah, i got another error06:46
linux4allhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=4215584 im still looking...06:46
mikebotithicine, yes, 3 new folders: conf, i18n, pixmaps06:46
wall0159Xaero - anything you can run in Ubuntu, you can run in Kubuntu, and visa versa (AFAIK)06:46
hexpersonplease help me...06:46
tristanmikemikebot, pastebin it....06:46
mikebottristanmike, what is the patebin link>?06:46
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hexpersonhelp...:-(06:46
tristanmike!pastebin06:47
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:47
linux4allhexperson: ???06:47
linux4allhexperson whats wrong?06:47
hexpersonk I pasted my q up a bit06:47
hexpersonlemme repaste it06:47
mikebot!pastebin06:47
tristanmikehexperson, Ubuntu is *very* good at hardware detection06:47
wall0159hexperson, you might need a driver disk during the install (or am I just thinking of an old Debian thing that no longer exists?)06:47
mikebotubotu Someone already said that 20 seconds ago06:47
ubotumikebot: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:47
mikebotouch06:47
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mikebot!paste06:47
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.06:47
hexpersonhmm...well it previousy failed on another SCSI RAID controller before...06:47
hexpersonone sec..06:47
hexpersontyping specs06:48
Agent_bobXaero i've never installed 'kubuntu'  but i'm sure it has a gui frontend to apt  whether synaptic or some other frontend.     and if it is another you could still install synaptic and use it if you choose.06:48
hexpersonNetServer LH3R, dual PentiumIII 500 MHz processors, 1GB RAM, 6 9GB HDs attatched via embedded NetRAID controller, embedded graphics06:48
hexpersonthose are the specs...should they work?06:48
mbbold h/w question - what is the likely result of a > 137 Gig drive on an old PC (non LBA48 bios), running breezy or dapper?06:48
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hexpersonfailed with suse06:48
ReWT_How do I extract a .rar file?06:48
linux4allwhy did it fail?06:49
linux4allhexperson06:49
mikebottristanmike, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/994706:49
wall0159hexperson, I'm no expert, but I'd think so06:49
hexpersondidn't find embedded RAID06:49
ithicineReWT_: rar e <name of your file>06:49
mikebottristanmike, ithicine i gotta go to a meeting at 10, but thanks for your help06:49
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mikebotthis seems like more trouble than it's worth06:49
linux4allhexperson: try the live cd to see, cant hurt06:49
wall0159try googling for the model of your RAID, drivers and linux. Perhaps Ubunbu or Debian too06:49
tristanmikemikebot, nah, it's just very new06:49
fade_sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf /home/fade/xorg.conf => file not found. why?06:50
Agent_bobmbb if you can get it to boot a small partition or perhaps another disk  linux doesn't depend on bios for disk access06:50
ithicinemikebot: np.  Don't worry, though... it's actually easier than it seems.  We're just having communication difficulties06:50
hexpersonah yeah...well a friend gave me a copy of the installer...so I guess I might as well pop it in and see what it finds06:50
mikebottristanmike, ah..well in any case, i have to go06:50
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mikebotthis program is unneccessary to me anyway, i just need one thing from it..i'll work on getting that thing later06:50
tristanmikemikebot, just gives us one more moment06:50
mikebotthanks guys06:50
mikebotah okay06:50
llama32how do i use a USB MP3 player with KDE/Ubuntu?06:50
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hexpersonwow and this chatroom is huge lol06:50
ReWT_ithicine, I got this    Uplink Report06:51
ReWT_Here is additional information I was able to find out by using your Uplink06:51
ReWT_Speed: 57.296177554476506:51
ReWT_Strength: 12606:51
ReWT_Endurance: 2106:51
ReWT_Panic: 006:51
ReWT_Confidence: 0/606:51
ReWT_Ooops sorry06:51
tristanmikemikebot, you will find that easy ubuntu will give you more than the one thing you seek now06:51
linux4allllama32 plug it in06:51
ReWT_ithicine, Got Trapt_-_Someone_In_Control_(Proper)_for_www.goldesel.to.rar06:51
ReWT_rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ sudo rar e Trapt_-_Someone_In_Control_\(Proper\)_for_www.goldesel.to.rar06:51
ReWT_Password:06:51
ReWT_sudo: rar: command not found06:51
mikebothaha ReWT_06:51
mikebot!tell ReWT_ about paste06:51
ReWT_:-P I forgot you had to right click it.06:51
mbbAgent_bob: even over 137G? I could even boot from a floppy, or an old smaller drive.06:51
linux4allllama32 open sda1 or what ever your mp3 player is and click your files you want to play06:52
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ithicineReWT_: sudo apt-get install rar06:52
pdavidhi all06:52
ithicineReWT_: then run the first command06:52
mbbwant to put the > 137G in an old P200 or P300 just to back up to across my network.06:52
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mikebottristanmike, i really have to go, but i'll ask you for help when i come back06:52
tristanmikemikebot, one more thing, in the directory try "sudo ./easyubuntu.py"06:52
pdaviddoes anyone know if the latest GPG 1.4.2.2 has been packaged yet that doesnt have the flaw?06:52
mikebotokay okay06:52
mbbdon't laugh, my best machine is a K6/2-50006:52
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Agent_bobmbb  yes a smaller drive with the /boot  partition would work on that hw06:52
pdavidor is in any repositories?06:52
wall0159do ipod minis work in Ubuntu breezy reliably? where should I go with problems?06:53
chp21i want to resize my ntfs partition to i can install ubuntu. what is the easiest way to go about doing this?06:53
mikebottristanmike, ah perfect--that worked06:53
mikebottristanmike, thank you06:53
ReWT_ithicine, can you go to channel #rarhelp06:53
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hexpersonlol this server counts 1GB of RAM each post KB by KB XD!06:53
PerceptualChaoschp21, partition magic06:53
linux4allamaranth: busy tonight, u havent said a word06:53
tristanmikemikebot, we'd get it sooner or later :P06:53
mikebottristanmike, hehe, well thank you06:53
Viking667meep..... wow! Tha'ss lotta people!06:53
fade_how to enlarge scr res?06:53
llama32linux4all: i did. must it be there at boot or something? there seems to be one USB removable storage device, but i think that's my printer's card reader thingo (it won't mount - bad superblock...)06:53
mikebotnow i must be off06:53
Amaranthlinux4all: school06:53
Agent_bobmbb i'm talking to you on a p1 mmx   with 600m hdd  :)06:53
chp21PerceptualChaos: hrm. about what is the easiest nocost way to do this?06:53
mikebotithicine, thanks for your help06:53
mikebottristanmike, goodnight06:53
ithicinepdavid: no, it's way too soon.  Don't worry, though... the flaw isn't absolutely critical.  It's not like they can cause collissions or anything... it's just possible to insert plaintext before and/or after the signed or encrypted portion of the message06:53
PerceptualChaosum download warez partition magic?06:54
PerceptualChaos;)06:54
wastrelgparted can resize ntfs06:54
tristanmikemikebot, good night06:54
linux4allllama32: itll show but cant mount?06:54
wall0159wastrel: really?!? wow!06:54
pdavidithicine: i know, i just dont like the idea of possible injected text into my emails06:54
wall0159didn't know that06:54
Viking667Sorry, I had a question about Breezy update packages... I'm trying to upgrade to OpenOffice.org2-2.0.1, but the packages don't show up in thp Packages.gz of "breezy-updates"06:54
mbbAgent_bob: cool! I thought I was the most antique hardware person left...06:54
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fade_heh, its morning now )))06:54
ReWT_ithicine, can you please help me in #rarhelp06:54
pdavidif i compile, can i submit a package to the repositories myself?06:54
linux4all11:52 here06:54
ithicinepdavid: neither do I.  That's why I already compiled from source06:54
wastrelhttp://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html06:54
fade_8:5206:54
chp21wastrel: i was reading about ntfstools and how resizing meant resizing the filesystem and then shrinking the partition.. a two step process. gparted is doing both steps for me?06:55
pdavidi'll just compile it myself, and maybe make a package for it06:55
Agent_bobmbb you don't hold the title untill you beet me,    and don't make be turn on the c6406:55
fade_linux4all, where are you from?06:55
wall0159chp21: make sure you backup first!06:55
Agent_bob:_06:55
linux4allmobile alabama US of A06:55
pdavidlinux4all: you are from mobile?!06:55
linux4allyep06:55
pdavidso am i06:55
linux4allreally06:55
chp21wall0159: that is the problem. cheapskates didn't include an os cd. i can't afford to screw up the first time around06:56
wastrelchp21:  i honestly don't remember - i installed ubuntu on this laptop about a year ago, used a gparted boot disk to shrink the windows xp partition (after defragmenting)  i think it was one step06:56
pdavidyou part of a lug there?06:56
linux4alli never meet a live person that uses linux06:56
llama32linux4all: i dont think it's showing - i think that's just the printer's removable storage. it works in XP and other USB devices work.06:56
chp21wastrel: doing the same. laptop installation06:56
linux4allllama32: unplug your printer and try06:57
ithicinelinux4all: that's just because we're not really alive ;)06:57
fade_linux4all, can you help me?06:57
linux4allmaybe06:57
PerceptualChaosheh I just used the warez I guess I should have used open-source06:57
fade_i want to enlarge my scr res06:57
linux4allithicine: i thought i was alone and this was a really long dream :-P06:57
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fade_i have read some howto, but it doesn't work06:58
Viking667We're all photons impinging upon your eyeballs (or soundwaves on your ears)06:58
wall0159chp21: my understanding is that linux ntfs drivers aren't great. If I wree you, I'd either (1) use partition magic or (2) backup windows using ghost, erase the disk and repartition, and then ghost back to a smaller partition (this assumes that you can do that with ghost - I don't know)06:58
linux4allfade_: please tell me your not useing a dell laptop...i have the same prob06:58
cyphasedoes anyone have 3D over DVI without having to do anything besides install nvidia-glx?06:58
wall0159chp21 : or (3) erase windos all together ;-)06:59
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Laohas anyone used firewire eathernet?06:59
Laoif so how is it done?06:59
linux4allnope, not me06:59
linux4allbrb06:59
Zhadowdoes anyone know how to erase an OS out of GRUB?06:59
wall0159anyway, I muse be off. No help for my ipod.. :-(06:59
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pdavidwall0159: have you tried gtkpod?07:00
linux4allsorry :(07:00
hexpersonweird...I'm at the partitioning screen and it says it lists the devices and partitions found...yet it lists none of either...is that because it's not compatible with NTFS or that my drives are fully partitioned?07:00
hexpersonor is it because it isn't compatible with the RAID?07:00
Agent_bobZhadow remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst07:00
wall0159pdavid: it's the mounting of the ipod that's causing probs.07:00
pdavidwall0159: what prob in particular?07:00
chp21wall0159: not worried about it. my understanding is well along.. just nervous about resizing ntfs. its important the windows installation stays where it is, etc07:00
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tristanmikeZhadow, if it's not default boot, you should be just able to delete it from the menu.lst file i'd think07:01
wastrelZhadow:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  just remove the boot block - back up menu.lst first...07:01
PerceptualChaosI actually came here to ask a question about accessing NTFS partitions on Ubuntu /ext3...07:01
PerceptualChaos I tried adding the unmask=0222 line to the fstab file like I saw in this forum but when I did that the system couldn't mount the partitions anymore either at boot or manually07:01
PerceptualChaosany ideas?07:01
wall0159pdavid: well, it doesn't consistantly mount it. USB is flakey, and sometimes doesn't read the aprtition table, sometimes produces errors. FW just registers that it's connected, but doesn't mount it!07:01
chp21wall0159: ghosting the drive isn't a bad idea but i don't know anything about it07:01
PerceptualChaosoops this = http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81825.html07:01
hexpersoner the only option is to manually edit partition table yet that doesn't let me do it...and guided partitioning just leads me back to manually edit partitoons...is this cuz the drives are fully NTFS partitioned?07:01
pdavidwall0159: can you mount it manually with FW?07:01
tristanmike!tell PerceptualChaos about windowsdrives07:01
wall0159chp21: it's actually quite easy, but I can understand your reservations. Use partition magic if you can.07:01
wall0159pdavid: I don't think it's creating a device for me to mount07:02
pdavidwhat does dmesg give you?07:02
hexpersonhelllo:???07:02
PerceptualChaoscheers tristainmike07:02
wall0159pdavid: I just get "ieee1394: Node changed"07:02
wall0159pdavid: but no mount...07:02
wastrelPerceptualChaos:  umask, not unmask,  but you can't mount ntfs rw - linux doesn't support writing ntfs07:03
pdavidwall0159: and what about using usb?07:03
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tristanmikePerceptualChaos, in fact if you do try to write to NTFS the chance is very high that you can kiss that partition goodbye07:03
wall0159pdavid: that's inconsistent too. It usually works the first time I connect the ipod after the computer's booted, but almost never again (without a reboot), and sometimes I get read errors, or 'cannot read partition table'07:03
Agent_bob!usb07:03
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob07:03
Zhadowok i got the file....what is the command to change permissions....because it says i am not autohrized...so i am assunming i should od it with the command line and use sudo07:04
frank23I want to upgrade libglib2.0  to debian unstable in order to install the latest mono (from unstable) can I expect any problems doing this? running breezy07:04
wall0159pdavis: I wondered if it was an issue with my usb drivers.. but that's a bit beyond my expertise.. ;-)07:04
PerceptualChaosoh! umask07:04
PerceptualChaosmaybe I screwed it up07:04
PerceptualChaosI just want to read07:04
pdavidwall0159: can you tell me pm what the output of dmesg is after you connect the ipod?07:04
hexpersoncan someone hep me again plz?07:04
Viking667So, any answers to my previous question aside from downloading required packages manually?07:04
Agent_bobZhadow no.     use    gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:04
Zhadowok thanx alot07:05
hexpersonhelp???07:05
hexperson???07:05
Agent_bob!help07:05
tristanmike!helpme07:05
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:05
chp21hrm. apparantly i can resize ntfs with partman, which is included on the cd07:05
Viking667hexperson: no point screaming yer head off here...07:06
Viking667They'll either help, or they won't.07:06
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tristanmikeViking667, what was your previous question ?07:06
wall0159pdavid: with usb, sometimes I get 'usb-storage: device found at 2' and sometimes I get 'usb-storage: device scan complete' but no mount of the ipod.07:06
edward0hexperson: ?07:06
Viking667I've asked a question, and am awaiting an answer.07:06
Viking667Ih07:06
phiber_opticI have a question I will reinstall windows in my computer, but it will erase grub... how can I restore grup?07:06
Viking667Sorry, I had a question about Breezy update packages... I'm trying to upgrade to OpenOffice.org2-2.0.1, but the packages don't show up in thp Packages.gz of "breezy-updates"07:06
pdavidwall0159: can you give the exact output of dmesg?  just cut and paste it into pm to me07:06
linux4allnot enough people here to help others? :( has anyone tried remote desktop to fix problems?07:06
ithicinephiber_optic: insert your ubuntu cd, and go through the setup as normal until you get to the part about partitioning07:07
Viking667Should I just download the packages and dpkg them into place along with the requirements?07:07
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wall0159pdavid: sorry - does pm mean a private message? (I don't want to spam the list)07:07
phiber_opticbut what will I put ithicine ?07:07
phiber_opticsystem update?07:07
pdavidwall0159: yep07:07
ithicineGo for manual partitioning, and tell it all the correct mountpoints07:07
wall0159I might drop out here..07:07
wastrelViking667:  breezy is the current stable version - it only gets security updates, not version upgrades07:07
edward0Viking667: ?07:07
phiber_opticithicine,  when u first put the cd it tells u if you want to install brand new or update07:08
wall0159[4295509.697000]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...07:08
wall0159[4295509.702000]  scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices07:08
wall0159[4295509.704000]  usb-storage: device found at 207:08
wall0159[4295509.704000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning07:08
wall0159[4295509.704000]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage07:08
wall0159[4295509.704000]  USB Mass Storage support registered.07:08
tristanmikeViking667, yeah, what wastrel said07:08
wall0159[4295514.707000]    Vendor: Apple     Model: iPod              Rev: 1.6207:08
wall0159[4295514.707000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0007:08
wall0159[4295514.718000]  usb-storage: device scan complete07:08
phiber_opticwall0159, pasta in pastebl07:08
ithicine...then try to proceed, and the installer will complain about having an existing install, and drop you to a menu where you can choose the Install Bootloader portion07:08
pdavidlol07:08
phiber_opticstop flooding07:08
ithicine(or whatever it's called)07:08
Agent_bobgood way to die young07:08
pdavidwall0159: i meant paste into a private message ;)07:08
wall0159sorry - I tried to pm07:08
wastrel#flood is better07:08
linux4alldoes remote desktop work pver the internet?07:08
wall0159I've not done that before07:08
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phiber_opticok ithicine07:08
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Viking667oookay. So how would I "persuade" apt to install those packages along with their requirements?07:08
phiber_opticIll try.. I hope it works...07:08
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pdavidmy bad everyone, i asked him to paste that output, but into a pm :(07:09
hexpersonalright so I need hep...I tried running setup...and it detected the hardware and brought me to the partitioning screen..but the only option was to manually edit and no partitions appeared although my drives are fully partitioned as NTFS...???07:09
phiber_optictahnx ithicine07:09
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hexpersonwil this ony work if they're non NTFS and not fully partitioned?07:09
wastrelViking667:  it would probably be better to install a tarball rather than a .deb07:09
hexpersonplease help me...q posted above..07:10
Viking667wastrel: hrmm? On a Ubuntu system? You're suggesting I actually *don't* use a deb? <grin> That must be a rare recommendation</grin>07:10
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linux4allSAY testing07:10
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wastrelViking667:  installing foreign .debs can mess up your package db's (or so i understand...)07:10
linux4all>:(07:10
hexperson???07:10
pdavidwall0159: I am trying to pm you, do you not see it?07:10
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wall0159yeah - I'm replyig..07:10
Viking667wastrel: these are debs supplied in the pool of Ubuntu - the "main" pool. Hardly foreign, except perhaps to Breezy...07:11
ntensehello ubuntunians07:11
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wall0159sorry pdavid - I'm not sure what's happening..07:11
hexpersonhellllllllllllllp07:11
wastrelViking667:  are these dapper packages?07:12
pdavidwall0159: can you see my private message07:12
Agent_bobhexperson id say you have a problem.    ntfs is not safely writable by linux yet   and from what i hear non-destructive partition resizing in windows is third party only.    so unless you are willing to loose data.    it don't look good.07:12
wall0159pdavd: yes. and I've replyed..07:12
wall0159pdavid: not sure what's happening07:12
hexpersonso bob, if I reformat the drives (nothing critical on 'em, this is for testing only) then it should work?07:12
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XiCillinwho here is testing the new update-manager?07:13
wall0159pdavid: but I haven't seen anything since 'hello?'07:13
Viking667They're dated January this year, instead of October last year07:13
hexperson?07:13
pdavidhow about that?07:13
tristanmikehexperson, I'd believe so07:13
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wall0159pdavid - yes I se you. can you not see me?07:13
pdavidnope07:14
pdavidis your nick registered with freenode?07:14
Agent_bobhexperson if you just delete the existing partitions it should work.    but i say that spareingly.    if the partitioner doesn't detect the drive then it can't install.07:14
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wall0159pdavid - that's weird, but I've not used xchat much at all..07:14
pbransfordwow, some of the folks in ##linux are sour tonight07:14
hexpersonmm k...because what I see is the partitioning screen with the options like "Partitioning Hep", "Configure Software RAID", etc and when I scrol down there's two empty spots...where the partitions should be? do NTFS partitions usuallly show up?07:14
wastrelViking667:  they're dapper packages.  it's probably unwise to install them on breezy.  you can upgrade to dapper (due out on the 20th i believe) or go to the oo.org website and download a tarball07:14
wall0159pdavid - I just got "DCC CHAT  to pdavid timed out - aborting."07:14
thomas`does ubuntu/linux have a prog thats like daemon tools were u can mount images and view them in media players dvd's iso's etc...07:14
Agent_bobpbransford possably  newbee burn out.07:15
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Zhadowok guys....i got rid of it....thanx for your help...im going to test it out now :)07:15
eobanbpbransford, try not to take it personally.07:15
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Agent_bobZhadow luck07:16
mrechmm why does ubuntu-artwork require gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks which isn't available?07:16
wall0159pdavid: can you see my chat invite?07:16
pdavidnopers07:16
thomas`can u mount images in ubuntu? i know theres a prog out there that does it for linux since there is a daemon tools for windows... shit linux should have this covered07:16
linux4allpdavid: why dont yall try gaim?07:17
wall0159pdavid: damn I have no damn idea what's happening.07:17
ScreaminIkecheck one. check one two. my audacity's been hard to configure. got it installed, but it messes with my singer. When i try to record more than one track, it drops it down an octave when it spits it back.07:17
eobanbmrec, the dependency i see for that package seems to be called 'gtk2-engines-clearlooks'07:17
tristanmikethomas`, vlc?07:17
thomas`to mount iso's bin/cue07:17
thomas`alcohol clones07:17
pdavidwall0159: join channel #pdavid07:17
thomas`all that kinda stuff mount it etc. to watch a dvd or whatever for that matter lol07:17
Agent_bobthomas` linux has been doing that for years.     mount -o loop file.img /mount/point/07:17
hexpersonthe server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with Ubuntu?07:18
tristanmikethomas`, vlc will definitely play bin/cue, i did just the other day in fact07:18
hexpersonGUI wise07:18
thomas`werd07:18
thomas`werd?07:18
thomas`so i dont need any extra software agent bob07:18
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cyphasehow is it that banshee can "legally" play MP3's?07:18
frank23thomas`: well some of the fancier image formats dont work that way07:18
PerceptualChaosthanks for your help tristainmike07:18
PerceptualChaosgtg now07:18
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Agent_bobtry it and see.    oh but you need to prepend   sudo    and the mountpoint must be a dir07:19
hexpersonthe server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with ubuntu gui wise?07:19
mreceobanb: on my system it depends on gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks ..hmm.07:19
thomas`nice i can open .cue in vlc07:20
thomas`thats cool07:20
ithicinecyphase: it's not that mp3 is illegal... the availability of mp3 playback libraries is just an issue of their liscensing07:20
hexpersonthe server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with ubuntu gui wise?07:20
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eobanbmrec, you are running breezy?07:20
Agent_bobquiz  what will happen if i mount a vfat partition on /bin ?07:20
Viking667eeee. and I don't have the bandwidth to downloading another iso...07:20
cyphaseithicine, i know07:20
eobanbhexperson, asking the same question repeatedly will not get you an answer.07:20
cyphaseithicine, but still07:20
ithicinecyphase: it's not free as in freedom is all07:20
Viking667Hang, the DVD I do have got sent to me as it was.07:20
ScreaminIkecheck one. check one two. my audacity's been hard to configure. got it installed, but it messes with my singer. When i try to record more than one track, it drops it down an octave when it spits it back.07:20
hexpersonwell what will then?07:20
cyphaseithicine, banshee isn't? or the mp3 issue..07:20
eobanbhexperson, i can only recommend that you try a liveCD and see if it works.07:21
hexpersonthis place is so busy, and when someone is willing to help me I have to retype it anyways07:21
mreceobanb: dapperdrake07:21
ithicinecyphase: mp3 isn't.  mp3 is free as in beer07:21
linux4alli already said that about the live cd07:21
eobanbmrec, well that explains it.07:21
eobanbmrec, dapper is still in development.  for dapper support visit #ubuntu+107:21
thomas`omg07:21
cyphaseithicine, i know, but still..07:21
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thomas`vlc plays img files to07:21
thomas`played a dvd with no probs at all07:21
thomas`thats awesome.07:21
Viking667hrm. Would changing my sources.list to dapper be usable?07:21
eobanbhexperson, otherwise, considering it's a server anyway, i wouldnt be particularly worried about the embedded video anyway07:21
hexpersontrue07:22
cyphaseithicine, but how does banshee get around the legal issues07:22
hexpersonand I assume ubuntu doesn't mount ntfs at all/recognize it?07:22
ithicinecyphase: what legal issues?07:22
cyphaseof playing mp3s07:22
eobanbcyphase, it depends on the juristiction.07:22
cyphasebecause there are legal issues07:22
eobanbjurisdiction*07:22
linux4allaint that the same as the dvd libs?07:22
cyphasethat's why meny distros, including ubuntu, don't have mp3 support by default07:22
cyphasemany*07:22
kbrosnanubotu, tell hexperson about ntfs07:23
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cyphasehexperson, it does07:23
eobanblinux4all, the mp3 and the css problems are related, but not identical.  with css on dvd-video it has more to do with circumventing a copyright enforcement system, whereas mp3 is simply patented and licenced by the MPEG-LA.  nothing to do with copy protection.07:23
ithicinecyphase: that's not exactly it.  It's a legal issue created by dedication to GNU licensing and other incompatible licenses07:23
linux4allok and ubuntu will play mp307:24
EruditeHermithey, does anyone know what the password is for the live CD users?07:24
eobanbhexperson, ubuntu can read, but not write to, NTFS.07:24
linux4allyou have to set it07:24
Viking667EruditeHermit: hrmm? For which account?07:24
cyphaseithicine, so ubuntu could put mp3 support in by default and it would be perfectly legally ok?07:24
hexpersonk, should they show up in the partitioner on the installer?07:24
linux4allsudo su then passwd07:24
EruditeHermitViking667: the default ubuntu account that the Live CD logs into07:24
Viking667Mine prompted me for a password on install.07:24
ithicinecyphase: yeah, it would, but it would violate certain *principles* the project prefers07:24
cyphaselol07:24
Viking667EruditeHermit: oh. No password, to the best of my knowledge07:24
ScreaminIke:)07:24
tristanmikecyphase, they would have to pay a fee07:25
ScreaminIkeFree Software is the pwnz0r07:25
ithicinecyphase: support is in the repos... but it's under nonfree or universe or something07:25
cyphaseand all this time i thought it was "illegal"07:25
cyphaseithicine, i know, i have all that installed07:25
cyphaseand libdvdcss :P07:25
hexpersonshoulld ntfs partitions show up in the installler?07:25
Agent_bobithicine keyrekt GNU ! compatable w/ mp3 and/or m$07:25
eobanblike i said before, do not confuse the mp3 issue with the css issue...07:25
ithicinecyphase: ehhh... libdvdcss is for a different reason07:25
wastrelViking667:  you can upgrade to dapper by changing your sources.list entries to dapper, but you might want to wait until release - dapper is still in testing phase and isn't fully stable07:25
linux4allif you can download libdvdcss why cant it come with the cd....???07:25
ScreaminIkelibdvdcss2 is illegal07:26
Viking667ah huh. Thank you for that.07:26
ithicineAgent_bob: yeah, that's what I'm trying to explain07:26
wastrelViking667:  it'll still be a big download - but in small pieces, rather than as one iso...07:26
ScreaminIkepatent issues and such07:26
cyphasebut still..07:26
tristanmikecyphase, if you are in a country that abides by copywrites then yes, it is illegal if you haven't payed for the codec07:26
Viking667I realise that.07:26
eobanblinux4all, because using libdvdcss is illegal in the united states.07:26
linux4alli did not know that07:26
linux4allnow im guilty07:26
hexpersonshould ntfs partitions show up in the installers partitioner?07:26
linux4allthere is no warning07:26
ithicineI call FAIR USE!07:26
Agent_bobit's a EULA thang    ya know.07:26
linux4all:)07:26
cyphase*sigh*07:26
tristanmikeit's only illegal because there is no royalty paid07:27
cyphasefile formats shouldn't be patentable07:27
cyphasewell..07:27
cyphasemost software stuff shouldn't be07:27
hexpersonsee? I don't repaste constantly and no one answers...07:27
Agent_bobhexperson yes they should.   when you select the disk the partitions on it should all appear07:27
linux4allso for something to be leagal someone has to be paid?07:27
eobanbhexperson, you cannot install ubuntu to an ntfs partition or volume.07:27
ithicinecyphase: personally I agree with you.  Software in general shouldn't be patentable.  But I think a topic like this should have its own channel07:27
cyphaselol07:28
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tristanmikethis is probably a discussion for -offtopic07:28
linux4all#fairuse ??07:28
Viking667hexperson: I don't know the answer. As to whether ntfs should show up in the partitioner, I don't know.07:28
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Agent_bobhexperson yes they should.   when you select the disk the partitions on it should all appear07:28
Viking667heh. Gone. Never mind.07:28
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ithicinehaha... whoever claims the land first gets to name it, I guess07:28
pdaviddoes anyone know if there is an automounter installed automatically by default?07:28
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linux4alli think so07:28
ithicinepdavid: under Ubuntu?  yes07:28
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pdavidlinux4all: thx07:29
pdavidithicine: thanks07:29
Agent_bobmaybe he had me on ignore......07:29
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wastreldon't most people?07:29
linux4all:P07:29
Agent_boblol07:29
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linux4allfollow thw white rabit07:30
Agent_bobproBOBably07:30
Viking667huh? What'd Agent_bob say?07:30
linux4alllol07:30
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Zhadowit worked! i got wondows out of GRUB07:30
Viking667did that already. That's how come I ended up HERE!07:30
Agent_bobZhadow of course07:31
Zhadowhaha07:31
ithicineaw, that's boring.  I just joined #fairuse and no one was there to ramble on about politics and ethics with me :(07:31
ithicinehehe07:31
linux4allnext step: uninstall windows07:31
Zhadowi also got GParted to format my slave hard drivwe without any errors.....but i still cant get it to mount :(07:31
tristanmikeithicine, i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic ready to rock and rant :P07:31
linux4alli thought bill gate was there...sorry07:31
Zhadowtryed sudo bash diskmounter07:31
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Zhadowand system>administrator>>disks   (which still thinks the drive is NTFS)07:32
Agent_boblinux4all that's as easy as usdo cat /dev/zero /dev/hda1    hehhe assuming a1 is wondowz07:32
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elPepohi friends07:32
Viking667Actually, what started me off on this topic was that the openoffice.org2-core supplied on my DVD wouldn't extract with dpkg, so that counted out all of OO.o207:32
highvolt1gehi07:33
eobanbhello, elPepo07:33
john66251Hi all ..... needing help here with Ubantu .....07:33
eobanbsure thing.  what can we help you with?07:33
linux4allAgent_bob i just remve ntfs partion07:33
john66251The floppy icon dissappeared off the desktop .....07:34
pdavidwhat is the automounter service known as?07:34
linux4alltim 4 coffee07:34
wastrelViking667:  there's some windows versions of open sourcesoftware provided on the ubuntu installer disk07:34
Agent_bobZhadow pastebin your /etc/fstab for us07:34
elPepoplease, How do I use PXE to install Ubuntu in some clients using the CD in my server? (without internet)07:34
john66251so I can't back anything up ....07:34
eobanbjohn66251, so you have a floppy disk in your drive, but it's not appearing?07:34
linux4allmy typing iz getng baad07:34
Zhadowsure thing07:34
wastrelViking667:  er, on the livecd i mean...  not sure about the installer07:34
Zhadowstand by07:34
ntensei know this is ubuntu chat and all.. but quick question that i should know the answer to07:34
linux4all?07:34
ntense.doc is a works file right?07:34
eobanbntense, this is a support channel; ask away07:34
Viking667wastrel: Windows versions aren't much good to a machine without Windows07:35
john66251yes UDI is not a mountable volume is the error message07:35
eobanbno, ntense07:35
eobanbworks is a .wps07:35
ntensebut open office will open .doc files right?07:35
eobanb.doc is microsoft word07:35
eobanbntense, yes.  and so will abiword07:35
Agent_bobted07:35
ntensethanks07:35
thomas`anyone get the 3ddesktop thing working/07:35
thomas`compiz xgl stuff?07:35
wastrelViking667:  yeah - on the livecd it's so you can "try before you buy"  - get used to some opensource apps before you install ubu... maybe the installer disk has some windows sw too... not sure :] 07:36
eobanbthomas`, that is a topic for #ubuntu+107:36
john66251I need to remount fdo ..... so I need to edit something ... can't remember07:36
eobanbjohn66251, open a terminal and do: sudo mount /dev/fd007:36
john66251thanks07:36
thomas`so u cant use that 3d desktop tech in 5.10 ubuntu huh?07:36
eobanbthomas`, no.07:36
thomas`oh ok thought so07:36
linux4alldapper only i think07:37
linux4all6.1007:37
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eobanbthomas`, it's been done fairly easily on 6.04, dapper, but not on 5.1007:37
thomas`im gonna wait on final build07:37
linux4allme to07:37
thomas`of dapper07:37
eobanblinux4all, dapper is 6.04, not 6.1007:37
Agent_bob6.10 != dapper07:37
linux4alloh ya :)07:37
thomas`so whens final come out?07:38
linux4allcant wait for april to get here07:38
thomas`april gotcha07:38
thomas`man im so tired07:38
Agent_bob4/607:38
thomas`i toked up all day07:38
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thomas`dont got any soda07:38
thomas`mouth is very dry spitting foam. sucks im gonna go get some 2 liters.07:38
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linux4alli wish they still made surge07:39
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eobanbyear.month07:39
eobanb6.0407:39
eobanbget it?07:39
linux4allyep07:39
linux4allgot it07:39
eobanblinux4all, if you like surge you might enjoy a rather new drink called Vault..07:39
eobanbit's pretty much surge re-named.07:39
tristanmikethomas`, H2O07:39
Xaerowhich is a heaver desktop... Gnome or KDE? Which has a bigger memory footprint?07:39
eobanbalso, they still sell surge in finland.07:39
wastrelah april 20 i was thinking march 20.  /me confused07:39
eobanbor was it sweden..07:39
Viking667took me a little time to figure that one out too... Actually I cottoned on when I saw the dates.07:39
linux4alltried it, but mt.dew;s mdx tast morre like surge07:39
eobanbwell, that's for ubuntu-offtopic :D07:39
ntensewhat ever happened to crystal clear pepsi?07:39
Viking667Xaero: kde, by far.07:39
eobanblinux4all, indeed.07:40
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linux4allwent inviable07:40
Agent_bobXaero they say kde now days   a few years ago i would have to have said gnome eat mo' memory07:40
thomas`i dont drink fossit water07:41
thomas`=p07:41
Xaerook i see07:41
john66251it says "you must specify the filesystem type" AHHHHH!!!!!!!!07:41
callipygousoh no!!07:41
linux4allouch07:41
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linux4allqparted will fix it07:41
Agent_bobprolly means the dev is not ther07:41
eobanbno problem, john66251.  just do sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd007:41
eobanband see if that works.07:41
thomas`could i check out kde if i wanted to?07:41
john66251thanks again!!!!07:41
thomas`is kde better than gnome?07:42
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linux4allits a choich thing, not one is better07:42
Agent_bobprolly means the dev is not thar eobanb07:42
eobanbthomas`, you can install both at the same time.  whether one is better than the other is completely subjective.07:42
nickrudjohn66251, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html07:42
eobanbAgent_bob, not necessarily.07:42
linux4allapt-get install kde07:42
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thomas`yea id have to expericen it for ymself07:42
Agent_bob!start a desktop war07:42
ubotuAgent_bob: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:42
thomas`so i can have both on at once07:42
eobanblinux4all, no, actually, he'd want to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:42
thomas`gonna have to stop gnome im sure07:42
Agent_bobyup07:42
thomas`then start kde07:42
john66251thanks for that ...... ain't it good to have friends!!!!07:43
linux4allsorry, used to knoppix07:43
elPepoplease, How do I use PXE to install Ubuntu in some clients using the CD in my server? (without internet)07:43
eobanbjohn66251, did it work?07:43
eobanbelPepo, i don't believe that is possible.07:43
eobanbelPepo, can you use the CD in the clients' drives?07:43
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thomas`if i dont want it what do i type to uninstall it?07:44
john66251no didn't work - just gave me a lot of guff about options07:44
linux4allformat :)07:44
thomas`what07:44
thomas`?07:44
thomas`i dont awnt to do any of that..07:44
Agent_bobif you had to add type on a flopy disk something is bad wrong.... i bet ya my bet ya against your bet ya, that udev made the device node while mount was trying to access it....07:44
elPepono, If I wanna install in the same time I need one disc for each client07:44
linux4allapt-get -r kubuntu-desktop i think07:44
thomas`im using ubuntu tho07:44
thomas`i closed07:45
john66251I will check the forum that nickrud gave - thanks07:45
callipygoushmm, this distro appears to have been made by a bunch of hippies who had just finished singing coombya in a drum  circle, realised they were out of pot, and decided to start their own linux07:45
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eobanbAgent_bob, i have had perfectly normal floppy disks not mount without specifying the FS type.07:45
eobanbcallipygous, if you have nothing interesting to say, please leave.07:45
callipygousthat was interesting07:46
callipygousand interesting observation07:46
john66251The icon was always on the desktop - then it disappeared and now I get an error trying to access it...07:46
linux4allthomas: get kubuntu live cd to try instaed of haveing t install and then mabey latter remove07:46
eobanbcallipygous, this part of the linux community thrives on respect to others.  if you can't understand that, you have no place here.07:46
Agent_bobeobanb i never have.   but i have had them fail on the first attempt and succeed on the second without changing one letter on the commandline,   and at the same time watched udev make the device node.07:46
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callipygousI can't stand this hippie talk, I wanted an OS not a hippie commune!07:47
linux4allits been a long while sence ive used knoppix my self07:47
john66251I just want a system that works without me having to become a programmer .....07:48
Agent_bobeobanb i'm not saying it can't happen.    but the autofs detection in mount is pretty good.07:48
thomas`i closed it out07:48
thomas`cuz i wouldnt know if i waqs gonna be able to get kde off07:48
thomas`once i get it07:48
thomas`ppl tryna set me up for disaster im a linux newb07:48
thomas`lol07:48
linux4allwhat dont kill u makes you stronger :)07:48
thomas`i dont wanna kill myself yet07:49
Viking667oh. Darn. I forgot something anyhow. 8-(  openoffice.org-common07:49
Viking66723MB - blech.07:49
Madpilotcallipygous, it's a damn fine OS. If you "can't stand this hippie talk", perhaps you should find a different OS...07:49
john66251How do I edit FSTAB??? is that what I need to edit???07:49
thomas`not untill it gets closer to dapper rls date07:49
thomas`lol07:49
linux4allget the live cd07:49
Agent_bobcallipygous billy G$ would love to sell ya an "os"   hehhe07:49
eobanbjohn66251, the location of the file is /etc/fstab, so you could edit it with sudo gedit /etc/fstab07:49
linux4allwinblows xp?07:49
wastrelhm - is there a way to pull the text out of a pdf?  like catdoc07:49
thomas`im trying to think if i have anymore questions07:49
ntenseso whats the best "buntu" for an old lapttop??07:49
callipygousid get windows07:49
thomas`id like to play some games on my windows drives there windows games07:49
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callipygousif it didn't feel like a bad acid trip07:50
john66251I'll try that as I think the drives are confused...07:50
pdavidntense: xubuntu!07:50
thomas`i wonder ifi can port them over to linux i have got apps to run in wine windoz appz07:50
callipygoustalking paperclips and puppies....07:50
callipygousand a million loud beeps and chimes07:50
ntensei have kubuntu.. and its pretty.. but most of the times its slow07:50
callipygousthat would do my head in07:50
pdavidntense: Xubuntu07:50
linux4allthomas : they got progs out there that will let you play them07:50
ntensexubuntu? that uses the xfce UI?07:50
callipygousis there a Wubuntu yet?07:50
linux4allxubuntu: no wm?07:50
pdavidntense: yeppers07:50
thomas`really name some i want whatever has the best compatibility07:50
callipygousif not...what are you doing?07:50
thomas`whatever is the most popular07:50
pdavidxubuntu uses xfce-wm07:51
callipygousstop singing coombya and get me a WindowMaker based ubuntu!07:51
linux4allcelda, wine...do a google search07:51
wastrelcallipygous:  sudo apt-get install wmaker07:51
Agent_bobZhadow if you ever posted a url to that pastebin i must have missed it.07:51
cello_raspi think an fvwm ubuntu has a lot of potential07:51
Zhadowok if i give you thre number will that work?   or should i post again?07:52
callipygousbut isn't ubuntu owned by a billionaire?07:52
linux4alltheres a lot out there..and some one said win4lin on here last night07:52
pdavidcallipygous: if you wanna troll, then do it somewhere else already07:52
linux4alli dont think he really owns it.07:52
Viking667callipygous: huh? Never heard of that. I thought *I* owned it.07:52
linux4allwe own it07:52
pdaviddon't feed the trolls07:52
Viking667And I'm no billionaire07:52
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Madpilotcallipygous, funded by, not owned by. Very important difference07:52
ntensetroll? where?07:53
````bulldoggI need someone to come shoot my machine07:53
linux4allbehind you07:53
cello_rasphey everybody give me money07:53
Viking667ntense: under thebridge, ofcourse07:53
Agent_bobZhadow you do know how pastebin works dont you?07:53
linux4allcello_rasp sorry only linux users here07:53
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Agent_bob!paste07:53
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.07:53
Zhadowpossibly not07:54
ntenseim guilty of owning a winslows partition07:54
nickrud````bulldogg, a man of character will put his own machine out of it's misery07:54
Zhadow:(07:54
john66251it says /dev/fd0   /media/floppy0 auto   rw,user,noauto   .... sound right???07:54
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callipygousbut how is another linux distro going to change the world?07:54
Zhadowi was just poting stuff in there.....then grabbing thre url......and giving that to you07:54
pdaviddon't feed the trolls07:54
eobanbjohn66251, that sounds right to me.07:54
cello_raspby working07:54
Agent_bobyou go to   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and paste the text   hit enter and then give us the url07:54
nickrudjohn66251, if I had a floppy, I try to help more :)07:54
Agent_bobyou go to   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and paste the text   hit enter and then give us the url Zhadow07:54
````bulldoggI have used all of the howto's provided here and ones I have found to get my x700 pro go work... still no joy.... no 3D acceleration can only run mesa driver07:55
linux4allby being better then the last...why does windows keep upgreading?07:55
Zhadowhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9949   thats the url..........not 100% sure if that is what you are looking for07:55
cello_raspcallipygous: how are you goign to change the world?07:55
Agent_bobok looking Zhadow07:55
Zhadowthx!07:55
callipygousoh no you don't!07:55
callipygoustrying to change the question around like that07:56
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callipygouscheeky aren't ya?07:56
linux4alli wonder if bill dreams about tux07:56
callipygousi doubt it07:56
````bulldoggin his nightmares maybe07:56
callipygouslinux is not threat07:56
linux4allin the server area it is07:56
cello_raspit very much is, especially in the server business07:56
Agent_bobok Zhadow and the results of   cat /etc/fstab  ?07:56
callipygousfor high end servers i think FreeBSD would be more of a threat07:56
ntensei bet the microsoft website is run off a BSD server07:57
cello_raspits noticably cutting into sales07:57
linux4all:)07:57
wastrelwindowmaker is a decent wm, i used it for several years07:57
````bulldoggI would say linux is a threat in all areana's they just need to make it a little more idiot proof... so the average idiot can run it07:57
cello_raspand thats what ubuntu is for07:57
callipygousno, not idiot prof07:57
ntenseaverage idiot here07:57
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callipygousthey need to actually pull their finger out, stop giving users so much 'choice' , I mean, how many distros are there?07:57
Agent_bobmake it idiot prof and they will make a better idiot07:57
linux4allthats why i went to linux.. ill never learn it all07:57
Zhadowhaha07:58
cello_raspnothing is idiot proof, as evidenced by callipygous posting in this channel07:58
ntenseLOL bob07:58
PuMpErNiCkLedude - you would not believe the range of idiots that make up that average07:58
````bulldogglol07:58
ntenseyea.. me too07:58
````bulldogglol07:58
nickrudcallipygous, I hate feeding trolls, but just which 'they' need to pull out their finger?07:58
callipygousand actually get hardware to work07:58
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callipygousacpi - doesn't work properly07:58
ntensei like linux because i have to learn shit07:58
callipygouslots of webcams don't work07:58
cello_raspcallipopuloars: tell it to the hardware manufacturers that dont supply driver info07:58
linux4allor wirless07:58
eobanbcallipygous, that's because the hardware isn't documented properly.07:58
callipygouswell it could be documented properly07:59
Agent_bobZhadow please pastebin the results of   cat /etc/fstab07:59
````bulldoggagain thats your manufactures not releasing specs07:59
callipygousand linux will have to havae drivers07:59
eobanbcallipygous, then go take it up with the manufacturers.07:59
wastrelthis is a support channel.  philosophical discussions, OS wars and other idle chitchat belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic07:59
callipygousor its own hardware07:59
cello_raspwastrel: hear hear07:59
nickrudso, callipygous it's not linux for those things, but the proprietary hardware07:59
nickruddone07:59
callipygousand yes, i feel an idiot talking in here mysel :)07:59
eobanb^---what wastrel said07:59
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john66251in Disk manager the floppy drive appears as a CD rom and the floppy icon is there twice .... how do I edit that???07:59
cello_raspgood riddance07:59
cello_raspjohn66251: go to /media/ ?08:00
linux4allboy sure did get quit08:00
linux4allquiet08:00
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john66251cello - what do I type at the command prompt???08:00
cello_raspjohn66251: if you right-lcik the icon you should be able to "unmount" it08:00
eobanblesson: don't feed the trolls, and they'll go elsewhere.08:00
Agent_bobit sure did get 'quit'       classic :)08:01
linux4alli know :P08:01
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````bulldoggcan anyone message me that has expierence with an ATI Radeon x700 Pro PCIe08:01
Razor-SHARPati!08:01
cello_raspjohn66251: to see what is in your /medai/ direcroty, type cd /media/08:01
cello_raspjohn66251: ls08:01
eobanb````bulldogg, i suspect that ati hasn't released any drivers for that card at all yet.08:01
john66251can't right click...08:01
linux4all?08:01
````bulldoggthey have... I just can't get it to work08:01
Razor-SHARPwhere do i find support for ati graphis cards?08:01
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Agent_bob!ubot tell ````bulldogg about ati08:01
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob08:01
Madpilot!tell ````bulldogg about ati08:02
cello_raspjohn66251: are you using gnome or kde?08:02
````bulldoggyeah well I tried that... it didn't work08:02
Agent_bobit's the nick08:02
Agent_bob!ubot tell \`\`\`\`bulldogg about ati08:02
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob08:02
Razor-SHARPohh wait i mean sound blaster live!08:02
Agent_bobhehhe well08:02
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cyphasecan someone post the latest Browser Home Page in Dapper08:03
john66251knome here ... it says floppy008:03
linux4alllsmod08:03
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Agent_bob!ubotu tell ````bulldogg about ati08:03
Agent_bobit was the nick08:03
Agent_bobwrong nick.08:03
jetscreamertry !tell08:04
Zhadowhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9950 has cat /etc/fstab08:04
eobanb!ati08:04
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358908:04
Agent_bobjetscreamer it worked.08:04
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cello_raspjohn66521: using stable? i think this may be a questino better put to the ubuntu forums with pictures and output included. in the mean time it may be that your fstab file has mount details for the floppy, cdrom in some strange way.08:05
john66251cello - it seems right although the HD is not listed there....08:05
Agent_bobi left the u off of ubot"U"   in the first attempt.....08:05
cello_raspjohn66521: the HD is / :)08:05
cello_raspit is strange that stable woudl act in such a  way08:06
Viking667meh. libcurl3 wants libssl0.9.8.08:06
frank23a script in a downloaded program gives me    bash: ./node.sh: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory   any ideas?08:06
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cello_raspfran23 check out the README or INSTALL files and confirm you have all requirements08:07
Neko_FreakHow do I get Frostwire installed from the .deb file?08:07
Zhadowhey guys, should i use ext3 or ext2 or something completely different for a slave hd?08:07
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cello_raspNeko_Freak: deb install file.deb .... i think08:08
highvolt1gedpkg -i file.deb08:08
cello_raspZhadow: ext3. it will save you some headaches.08:08
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Zhadowk thanx08:08
frank23cello_rasp: I know I have everything I need. the problem seems to be that it doesnt recognise my /bin/sh08:08
Viking667I won't recommend XFS... it's eaten data on me08:08
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Misnixfrank23, remove the ^M 's from the end of the lines08:08
Viking667Misnix: neat macro/script for that: cat file | tr -d '\015' > outfile08:09
Agent_bobZhadow you need to " gksudo gedit /etc/fstab "    and change  the line  ' /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 '   to    ' /dev/hdb1 /$*$ ext3 defaults 0 0 '     where   $*$   is the directory you want it to mount on,     i.e.  substitute $*$   for something like    /mnt/disk     or   /var   or   /home     or where ever you want to mount it.08:09
cello_raspi have an ext3 slave mounted to /home in case the root drive dies :)08:09
frank23Misnix: that's what I though but was is a ^M?08:09
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Agent_bobZhadow    ^08:09
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Zhadowok i will give that try, thanx so much Agent_bob08:09
linux4allgoing to bed have a good night08:10
frank23Misnix: and how do I do that?08:10
Agent_bobnp08:10
Viking667frank23: ^M is line terminator along with ^J in MS-DOS and Windows08:10
Misnixfrank23, different end of lines in m$ and linux/unix,08:10
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wastrelfrank23:  dos2unix <filename>08:10
Viking667Unix/Linux just uses ^J08:10
frank23wastrel: ok thanks.08:10
Agent_bobmac uses ^M08:11
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Neko_Freakbah...it said no file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: Frostwire-4.10.5-0.i56.deb08:12
frank23wastrel: um I don't have dos2unix08:12
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Agent_bobfrank23 install it08:13
Misnixfrank23, or use an editor08:13
wastrelsorry, dos2unix is in the sysutils package08:13
frank23ok I figured how to make kate change the endlines08:13
Misnixfrank23 in vi: s/ Inkscape is an Open Source vector graphics editor08:13
MisnixGimp GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program08:13
Misnixgcolor2 gcolor2 is a simple color selector08:13
MisnixGnome Colorscheme Gnome Coloscheme allows you to generate a variety of colorschemes08:13
MisnixGnome Screen Ruler Gnome Screen Ruler08:13
MisnixXNest Xnest - a nested X server08:13
MisnixBluefish Bluefish is a powerful web editor08:13
Viking667Misnix: that could be more trouble than it's worth.08:14
eobanbplease do not flood..08:14
Misnixahhh08:14
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eobanb!paste08:14
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.08:14
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Zhadowok Agent_bob   i did what you said...it looks like it chaged some things, i will find a way to test it out and let you know how it went.....thanx!08:15
Misnixfrank23, in an editor: %s/^M//   (don't do that in m$ or you'll flood :-] )08:15
Spliffster!dapper08:15
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update08:15
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Neko_Freakcello_rasp it said no file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: Frostwire-4.10.5-0.i56.deb08:15
frank23Misnix: I fixed it with kate08:15
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Spliffsterwhat was that nifty tool called again to update to dapper ?08:15
HobbseeMisnix: please do not flood, or you will be kicked and/or banned08:15
Hobbsee!tell Spliffster about upgrade08:15
Spliffsterty08:15
MisnixViking667, learning to use an editor is never more trouble than it's worth08:16
Agent_bobted08:16
Misnixfrancis, ok08:16
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Agent_bobMisnix what about  jed ?08:17
Viking667Misnix: learning is sometimes more frustrating than most people want to be bothered with. I learned vim, but by goodness I paid for it.08:17
Mars^Hi i have a question. Can i set the password for a one directory on kubuntu?08:17
Viking667Now of course, I love it.08:17
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Mars^?08:18
Viking667dunno08:18
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Agent_bobyou talking about encripted fs ?08:18
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Mars^no08:19
MisnixAgent_bob I don't know jed, point was learning any decent editor should do. and vi is nearly always around.08:19
Agent_bobkey word "decent"  :)08:19
MisnixAgent_bob, are you planning on a flame war against vi? :-p08:19
Viking667Given the choice between vim, emacs, jed, pico/nano and mcedit, I'd rate vim and emacs nearly equal, jed a bit behind, and the rest back a bit.08:20
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Neko_FreakAny1 know how to install Frostwire in a deb file from desktop?08:20
propagandhiMars^: you can create another user or group that has complete ownership of that folder08:20
DoctorLondomHey, I'm having some ALSA issues on Ubuntu 5.10. Can anyone lend a hand?08:20
propagandhiMars^: but root can still change it08:20
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>08:20
Zhadowagent_bob it seems to have worked, but when i run sudo mount dev/hdb1  it says mount point /mnt/disk does not exist08:20
propagandhiwoops08:20
Agent_bob misnix    you totally misapplied what i posted.    in referance to jed "not vi"     jed is the unix implimentation of the ms doe edit command.08:21
propagandhihe's already gone08:21
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tristanmikeNeko_Freak, if it has a graphical installer replace "sudo" with "gksudo"08:21
Agent_bobZhadow sudo mkdir /mnt/disk08:21
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Zhadowthx!08:21
Agent_boband try again.08:21
Viking667Agent_bob: huh? Not on MY machine. It's an emacs-like editor here.08:21
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MisnixAgent_bob eww, but ok. I used to install vi on msdos first thing08:21
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Agent_bobViking667 jed is ?08:22
vladuz976can i just uninstall gdm with apt-get if i don't like it? does it take a lot of dependencies with it?08:22
ZhadowIt looks like it worked!!!!! 177 GB free!!    thanx so much Agent_bob !!!!!!!!!08:22
Neko_Freaktristanmike it said need action option08:22
nadia007any one running wireless card with WAP?08:23
frank23vladuz976: do you have kdm or something to replace it with?08:23
Agent_bobnp Zhadow   and you should never have to mount it again.   it should be auto.08:23
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, what is it that you're trying to install?08:23
Zhadowgreat!08:23
Neko_FreakFrostwire08:23
vladuz976frank23: no, i just want startx or maybe entrance from e1708:23
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, sorry, did you happen to use the " that I had there ?08:23
jetscreamerno it just takes gdm-themes with it iirc08:23
wastrelvladuz976:  you can just remove it-  only dep i think will be ubuntu-desktop, which is a wrapper package you don't need08:23
Neko_Freakyes08:23
jetscreamerbut imo gdm is the best out of the bunch08:23
Neko_Freaki tried it before08:24
Xaerointeresting take this test and it will help u decide what linux distro is right for you!08:24
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, sorry, that was my bad, what I meant was to put another at the end, ignore the "08:24
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, so it's just    sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>08:24
Xaerohttp://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/08:25
Neko_Freaktristanmike, do i need the <> signs?08:25
vladuz976jetscreamer: what eles have you tried?08:25
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, no08:25
jetscreamerkdm and xdm08:25
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, usually if you see someone write that here, it mean "what's inside" same with the quotes08:25
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tristanmikebut I messed that one up, need tea....08:25
XaeroI took the test and I got these results08:25
jetscreamerthe fonts change, also, depending on which one you use... and i mean after you log in.08:25
Xaero1) Kubuntu08:26
Neko_Freaktristanmike, it said cannot access archive no such file or directory08:26
Xaero2) Mandriva08:26
Xaero3) SuSE08:26
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jetscreamerbut that's not in gnome or kde08:26
Xaero4) Ubuntu08:26
Agent_bobNeko_Freak rule of thumb,  unless a redirection is specified    <flie.ext>   means put your  file name there.08:26
Xaeroheh08:26
Parasfolks... need some help.... where can i find the package for skype for my breezy?08:26
wastrel!tell paras about skype08:26
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, sorry, maybe I assumed too much, type the following (you said the file was on your Desktop?)  cd ~/Desktop08:27
chuckyptest08:27
chuckypwow split windows works08:27
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tylerany way for me to click in mc a file and get it fired up as root? seems im not able to do it as root, but ablt to as user!08:27
Agent_bobof course it works08:27
heyjoe2my desktop has suddenly disappeared. im finding ubuntu-breezy to be very buggy. argh. any known fixes?08:27
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heyjoe2mainly whenever a usb or media file is involved08:28
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Agent_bobtyler if i understand you correctly  you are running mc as root and some function is not working,  is that correct ?08:28
chuckypIf I try to switch to opengl in counterstrike I get choosepixel format failed?  I know opengl is installed and working just wondering if anyone knows of this problem?08:29
tylerAgent_bob, u r absolutely right!08:29
tylercan u help me pls?08:29
kristopherThis is a stupid question, but where is my directory for Apache2?08:29
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ntensethe only stupid question is the one you dont ask08:30
Agent_bobtyler try   sudo rm -rf /root/.mc      and restart it.08:30
chuckypkristopher: which directory are you looking for where to put pages?08:30
tyleras root or user?08:30
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kristopheryes08:30
Agent_bob   the sudo  will make the command root08:30
chuckypkristopher: typically uses /var/www but I would check your config to make sure.08:30
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, how we doing there?08:31
kristopherokay, thanks08:31
Agent_bobtyler   hehhe    as root08:31
Neko_Freakgimme a sec08:31
kristopherchucky, you're here a lot!08:31
chuckypkristopher: and the config would be in /etc/apache2 something or other.08:31
tylerAgent_bob,  but i must type it as root?08:31
kristopheryou should get paid lol08:31
chuckypkristopher: I'm here every once in a while.08:31
Agent_bobtyler no08:31
kristopherwe most likely have similar schedules08:31
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Agent_bobtyler if you type it as root leave the   sudo  off08:31
tyler sudo rm -rf /root/.mc as user?, right?08:32
Agent_bobyep08:32
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Viking667whoops - sorry.08:32
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kdean06ANyone have any ideas what would cause ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 6068, errno = 008:32
Viking667Agent_bob: on my machine, it behaves like an editor that has emacs-like sequences.08:33
tylerAgent_bob, dopnt mind me asking, what does the xcommand do?08:33
Neko_Freaktristanmike, I got it to work finally08:33
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Neko_Freaki didnt need gksudo08:33
Neko_Freakjust sudo08:33
tylerit asks me for a password?08:33
Agent_bobtyler it removes the configuration file for mc   that is root specific.08:33
Agent_bobyes type your password08:34
tylerit ask me for a passwd??08:34
Neko_Freakexit08:34
Agent_bobnot root.08:34
Agent_bobyes type your password08:34
Agent_bobnot root.08:34
tylerthe root password?08:34
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, glad to hear. yeah, most times sudo is what you'll use, but in those rare cases where it has a graphical installer, (like Americas Army or Enemy territory) you should use gksudo or risk causing yourself headaches08:34
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Neko_Freaktristanmike, I'll keep that in mind08:35
brownie17for some reason the gaem "Barrage" from the repos won't work since i upgraded to breezy08:35
Neko_Freaktristanmike, you wouldn't know about Steam and WINE would you?08:35
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tylerwhat password should i key in.. i keyed in my user passwd n root password08:35
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tylerboth cannot08:35
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, no sir, I'm sorry I don't, I have never used wine...08:35
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Neko_Freaktristanmike, mmk08:36
heyjoe2can anyone help me with setting up lame on audacity08:36
heyjoe2been having a few problems08:36
Agent_bobjust run it as root.     root@localhost~] $ rm -fr /root/.mc08:37
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trudehey can someone help me im trying to get my webcam working....08:38
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vladuz976has anybody here have ubuntu running on an ibook?08:39
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tylerAgent_bob, if i run sudo rm -rf /root/.mc as root, what does it do? and is it reversible? im a newbie.. if it screw my box im screwed!@08:40
tristanmiketyler, rm anything is not reversible, and adding sudo is insult to injury08:41
tyleris it?08:41
tyler>;08:41
trudehey does anyone know how to get a webcam working for videochat on msn???08:41
tristanmiketyler, that command removes the ".mc" directory and everything in it and it's forced as well, so if for some reason your computer doesn't want you to do it, it does it anyway08:42
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Agent_bobtyler   rm -rf /root/.mc     is  remove recursively and forcably the directory /root/.mc      when you start mc again it will make the directory again,   but hopefully it wont have   root specific configuration this time....08:42
brownie17who here plays barrage?08:42
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Agent_bobtyler i probably can't help you with this if that doesn't fix it.   your caution is very good, as far as protecting your system.    but it makes it impossable for a two minute help chat to affect any change to a system.    "i have never had to wory about sensitive data, and thus thrown caution to the wind"08:45
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Agent_bobbe back in a bit.08:45
trudecan someone help me im trying to install the new version of amsn but it wont let me open the .deb file...it says that file type is not accepted08:45
vladuz976is it possible to get wireless with Airport extreme working on an ibook?08:45
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Madpilottrude, open a terminal, cd to the directory you've got the deb in, and type "sudo dpkg -i <name of file.deb>"08:47
digitaldochey all08:47
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digitaldocim pretty new to ubuntu (first time running linux, and i've been running ubuntu for 2 days, just got wireless access today)08:48
digitaldocjust wanted to say hi08:48
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Madpilotdigitaldoc, welcome, good luck & have fun!08:49
digitaldocthanks :-)08:49
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aroticozcan anyone suggest me a graphical C++ editor and compiler08:50
digitaldoci cant believe how much stuff comes bundled with ubuntu, i had to download very little to be up and running, its very nice :-)08:50
thomas`does anyone know the task gam_server08:50
thomas`and why its taking so much memory08:50
thomas`524mb of virtual memory08:50
Hobbseearoticoz: gedit should work, not sure about GUI for a compiler08:50
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aroticozok, with gedit I can write the code, but with what and how do I compile it ?08:51
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teclisaroticoz: which language?08:52
aroticozC++08:52
thomas`does anyone know the task gam_server and hwy its using 500+MB of virtualmemory08:53
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teclisaroticoz: try gcc08:54
aroticozI have it installed, but how do I use it???08:54
Misnixthomas`, there's a bug in gam-server that makes it use so much memory, it's supposed to be fixed in the next ububntu, just restart it. run man gam-server to find out what it does and how to restart08:55
digitaldoci dont suppose someone here could walk me through how to install and run kismet (i've got the download already)08:55
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teclisaroticoz: have you tried something like: gcc -o myfile.cpp08:56
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digitaldocno kismet folks around i guess?09:01
tonyyarussoWhat's the command to force blank the screen / turn the backlight off?09:02
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lex_hello09:03
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ntensewhere did everyone go?09:07
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callipygousso... how many ubuntu's are there?09:08
callipygousebunted, kbunted and xbunted?09:08
ntenseebuntu?09:08
callipygousi said e09:08
Tomcat_edubuntu09:08
ntenseelaborate?09:08
polpakyou know.... for kids..09:08
ntenseand how does this differ from ubuntu?09:09
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Tomcat_ntense: http://www.edubuntu.org/09:10
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Madpilotntense, ebuntu is an unofficial project w/ E17; Edubuntu is an official ubuntu-for-schools project09:12
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ntenseoh how i wish i could have grown up with linux09:12
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theeo123I have a somewhat dumb question that may infact get me laughed at09:12
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Viking667ntense: actually, I'm glad I *didn't* grow up with Linux...09:13
ntensethe only dumb question is the question you dont ask09:13
DJ_tobiaswill any standard motherboard fit any tower ?09:13
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theeo123is there a way to make nautulis or Gnome/ubuntu in general display fiel sizes in kib instead of Kb   this is based soley on personal prefrence09:13
Viking667DJ_tobias: not generally.09:13
Misnixdumb answers outnumber dumb questions by far09:13
ntensei have a dumb question09:14
theeo123<-- preparesto be ridiculed09:14
Viking667theeo123: not really sure of that one. Have you explored gconf-editor, underthe apps/nautilus key?09:14
MadpilotDJ_tobias, if they're both standard ATX (or at least both built to the same spec) then yes09:14
ntensei have a laptop.. im using it now... i have kubuntu on it09:14
theeo123No I'm very very new to Linux09:14
ntenseits a dell 600 mhz p3 with 128 ram09:14
theeo123like... I've been using it aobut 4 days now :)09:14
ntenseshes old and dieing09:14
CarinArrheh09:15
ntensedo yoiu thihnk it would benifit me to switch out to xbuntu?09:15
CarinArrand i'm pitying my 1700ghz p4m09:15
CarinArr;)09:15
DJ_tobiasMadpilot, here is the mobo... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517 and here is the case http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6857551770&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT think they will fit?09:15
zerokarmaleftntense: xfce should run a bit better than kde with those specs09:15
CarinArrdj_tobias, it should say in the spec what size it is09:16
ompaulntense, if dying get new hard drive and answer yes on spec09:16
MadpilotDJ_tobias, google for specs on that case, it might be compatible, but who knows with Dell09:16
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zerokarmaleftntense: but with that much RAM i'd probably go with something even more lightweight than xfce09:16
ntenseits not the hard drive09:16
DJ_tobiasDimensions 12.0" x 9.6" thats for the mobo, but i cant find ANY towers with a width of 9.6 + !?09:17
ntensethe  fan dosent work anymore and this thing gets so hot i can cook bacon on it09:17
Viking667blackbox/fluxbox...wmaker, maybe09:17
Viking667ntense: ewww. Get a fan dude.09:17
MadpilotDJ_tobias, towers are deeper/taller than mobos are09:17
ntensemaybe... its for a lappie tho.. wouldnt it be uber expensive?09:17
ompaulntense, as Viking667 said09:18
DJ_tobiasMadpilot, i know.. depth is how far back it goes, correct?09:18
ompaulntense, ehh cheaper than a new lappy though09:18
ompaulntense, they should not cost much09:18
MadpilotDJ_tobias, yes, front-to-back - contact the EBay seller and ask if it's an ATX standard case09:18
Viking667I don't DARE run my K6-II without a fan... even with the heatsink on, it gets too hot.09:18
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tenmonhi09:19
DJ_tobiasMadpilot, k thanks09:19
tenmonwhat is the adviced way to install an Ubuntu i386 package in an Ubuntu 64 (breezy) ?09:19
CarinArrdj_tobias, if the motherboard has an ATX formfactor, you'd look for a case with ATX form factor etc09:19
ntensei thinkn im kinda waiting for this thing to die so i can justify buying a new one09:19
ntensecan you run windowmaker on ubuntu?09:20
Viking667ntense: *sigh*09:20
theeo123Viking667, jsut went throguh it,  didn't see anythign  :9  It's not like it;s overly important, more of a curiosity/personal-preferance/novelty thign09:20
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theeo123I'm not exactly goign to loose sleep over it *L*09:20
Viking667ah huh.09:20
ntenseah.. did i reach my stupid question quota for the day?09:20
tenmonhello ?09:20
DJ_tobiasCarinArr, yea, im just trying to figure out if the case is ATX, gonna email the seller09:20
Viking667that wasn't a stupid question.09:20
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tenmonwhat is the adviced way to install an Ubuntu i386 package in an Ubuntu 64 (breezy)?09:21
phiber_optichi i just reinstalled windows and my grub got erased :(09:21
phiber_opticanyone can help me how to get it back.. im in the live cd right no09:21
MunkiiThis is probably a stupid question, but... I installed ubuntu, but I dont ever remember being asked for a root password.  Now I cant install things because I dont know my root password :(  Is there a solution to this, or do I need to reinstall?09:22
phiber_opticMunkii,  type sudo and ur passwd09:22
theeo123Viking667,  thanks for hte hlep anyway, I never knew about the gconf-editor, so at least I learned somthing new eh?  :)09:22
Munkiithanks09:23
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Sp4rKyhi09:23
ompaulntense, who knows about the quota, I know it exists in the repos (check out with apt-cache search windowmaker - leads to wmaker, then apt-cache policy wmaker leads to universe repos and apt-cache show wmaker tells you it is what you thought it was and more besides)09:23
Viking667theeo123: just be REALLY careful with that, eh.09:23
Sp4rKyhow could i get a swf movie which is on a website ?09:23
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alumno /server irc.gamersx.com.ar:666709:23
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alumnosorry09:24
Viking667Sp4rKy: how about wget?09:24
Munkiiphiber_optic, it then asks for another password?09:24
theeo123Viking667, I will. I knew my way in & out of the Win-registry pretty well,  Id like to think myself an "advanced" computer user by most standard, jsut never had any experience with Linux,  Been getting ito shit I'm not suppsoed to since DOS 3.209:24
phiber_opticits ur passwd09:24
Viking667Sp4rKy: the other option being render it in a browser with flash installed09:24
Sp4rKyViking667, i've tried , but just download the link09:24
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Sp4rKyI see it with firefox, but i want to donload it !09:24
Viking667Okay. I'm outta here.09:24
Viking667Right-click, choose "Save as"09:25
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Munkiidoesnt work for me... it says "cant find user <my pass>"09:25
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^Odd^!sources09:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:25
Viking667The other problem you'll have is: once you have a swf file, how will you play it?09:25
tenmonAnyone with Ubuntu 64 here ?09:25
Viking667Night al.09:25
theeo123Sparky,  try going to firefoxes edit menue,  & select View Sourc,e it may tike some time, but dig throguh the HTML for the link to the SWF fiel ,then copy it into a download manager.09:25
Viking667theeo123: that too. *nod*09:25
Sp4rKyViking667, yes, i want to play it after09:26
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Sp4rKyi've made a right click, but just has "parameters" and "About" :/09:26
theeo123good luck with that part, on windows I know media player classic could play swf, ussinf ffdshow,  not sure hwat the linux equivilent would b,e  maybee VLC ?09:26
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tenmonok, so no one with 64 bits here?09:28
osfameronhow do I convince Thunderbird it's not already open after it crashed?09:28
osfameronpresumably there's a lockfile somewhere?09:28
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bz0banyone here use a mac with ubuntu?09:28
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Sp4rKyViking667 , i've flash installed !09:29
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theeo123Are you sure it's dead? perhaps the talkback thread is still runing,  check "systme Monitor" to see if hte process realyl is dead ?09:29
kristopherPhp5 and apache are installed (apache2-mod-php5 as well,) but apache2 doesn't parse PHP files09:29
bz0bSp4rKy, firefox does that for you :-)09:29
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rieallll09:29
DJ_tobiasheh cool case... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?Mode=&Type=&Image=11-138-059-15.jpg%2C11-138-059-02.jpg%2C11-138-059-03.jpg%2C11-138-059-04.jpg%2C11-138-059-05.jpg%2C11-138-059-06.jpg%2C11-138-059-07.jpg%2C11-138-059-12.jpg%2C11-138-059-08.jpg%2C11-138-059-09.jpg%2C11-138-059-17.jpg%2C11-138-059-11.jpg%2C11-138-059-13.jpg%2C11-138-059-14.jpg%2C11-138-059-16.jpg&CurImage=11-138-059-16.jpg&Description=DYNAPOWER+SuperBien+Black09:29
DJ_tobias+0.8mm+SECC+steel+ATX+Mid+Tower+Computer+Case+430W+Power+Supply+-+Retail09:29
osfamerontheeo123: the laptop shutdown (due to overheating)  it's definitely dead... or really really diehard09:29
MadpilotDJ_tobias, next time use tinyurl or something, please09:30
ompaul!tell tenmon about chroot09:30
theeo123osfameron, yeah that's dead *L*09:30
Sp4rKybz0b, I'll like ..09:30
ntensethats a nice case09:30
Sp4rKybz0b, i use firefox ...09:30
robthat url sucks09:30
DJ_tobiasMadpilot, yea im sorry about that09:30
ntensei like the big fuck off asus case09:30
ompaulDJ_tobias, its ehh a little like you should use tinyurl09:30
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osfameronbut it won't open because it claims the default profile is in use09:30
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ompaulntense, I like when people mind their language09:31
osfameron(just like thunderbird does due to the configuration in ubuntu being broken, when you click on a mailto link but already have it running)09:31
ompaul!CoC09:31
ubotucoc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:31
kristopherPhp5 and apache are installed (apache2-mod-php5 as well,) but apache2 doesn't parse PHP files09:31
Frogzoococ isn't a word I'd expect to see in a family friendly channel :p09:32
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kristopherlol09:32
ntensesorry about that09:32
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bz0bwell i like my case too :-)09:33
bz0bhttp://tinyurl.com/mtbtd09:33
ompaulFrogzoo, CoC is code of conduct - . . . now what you typed or inferred shall we leave it there?09:33
DJ_tobiasgeez they have some crazy cases09:33
ompauls/now/not09:33
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ompaulDJ_tobias, if you want to post really long urls don't spam the channel use tinyurl.com to get there09:34
DJ_tobiasompaul, i know sorry it was a mistake09:34
DJ_tobiasits late and im tired :) Wont happen again09:34
DJ_tobiasbz0b, wow sweet case!09:34
bz0bthanks09:34
bz0bmy friend owns the company, so it was a gift from him09:35
DJ_tobiashow much was it?09:35
bz0bhe owns nzxt, not newegg09:35
bz0bon newegg, they go for 180 dollars09:35
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DJ_tobiasis it ATX ?09:35
bz0bmid ATX09:35
bz0bwith water cooling09:35
theeo123Here's my Case   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681114600309:35
bz0band a water cooler09:35
ompaul!offtopic09:35
ubotuofftopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:35
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bz0b!don'tcare09:36
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bz0b09:36
bz0b:-)09:36
bz0bjk09:36
DJ_tobiasbz0b, is this mobo 'mid-ATX' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681313151709:36
DJ_tobias?09:36
bz0bmobo? or case?09:36
bz0boh lol09:36
bz0bone se09:36
DJ_tobias'form factor' ATX09:37
bz0bits atx, but it fits in a mid atx case09:37
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Aegirtheeo123, I hope that case isn't actually made of steel... Might be interesting when the power gets turned on09:37
Sp4rKyi haven't download my swf at all ...09:37
bz0bhow ya like my mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681313600809:37
Sp4rKythe url of the swf is http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=DtFLkA9zZtU09:37
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Sp4rKyif anyone could try to donwload it ...09:38
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bz0bSp4rKy, did you ln -s the plugin?09:38
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bz0bdoes it work for you?09:38
DJ_tobiaspretty nice bz0b09:39
bz0bthanks09:39
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DJ_tobiasyou have a dualcore cpu?09:39
fekmoin09:39
bz0byes09:39
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DJ_tobiascool, is dualcore really as good as it sounds?09:39
bz0bfx-6009:39
Madpilotbz0b & DJ_tobias - take the hardware chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please09:39
bz0bkk lol, its over09:40
Sp4rKySp4rKy, my plugin works, i see the swf with firefox, but i want to get it to sea it later without internet ...09:40
phiber_opticdoes anybody know why I got cleanly unmounted... and then when going it said fail...09:40
bz0bim watching a video09:40
phiber_optichow can I fix that09:40
FrogzooDJ_tobias: dualcore is most beneficial in multiuser environments09:40
DJ_tobiasFrogzoo, im getting one this weekend :)09:40
allisfreeany free game such as Warcraft, CS on linux09:40
FrogzooDJ_tobias: nice for you *me turns green*09:40
DJ_tobiasi will stop talking hardware now( didnt know i couldnt talk about that in here )09:41
phiber_opticallisfree americas army09:41
phiber_opticMadpilot do you know how can I fix the cleanly unmounted prob?09:41
Madpilotallisfree, Enemy Territory09:42
FrogzooDJ_tobias: usually if the channel's slow, people can chat constructively about reasonably related issues - OT's only really an issue when it gets really busy09:42
theeo123Does anyone know of a "PDF-printer" for ubuntu?  I mena  I cna copy & paste stuff to open office, & then expor,t but that's both inconvienent, & in some cases painfully slow , bieng ablr to print direct to PDf would be nice.09:42
Sp4rKybz0b, , my plugin works, i see the swf with firefox, but i want to get it to sea it later without internet ...09:42
Madpilotphiber_optic, no idea, sorry09:42
bz0bthat p.swf is crazy!09:42
ompaulallisfree, go to www.linuxgames.com www.happypenguin.org games.linux.sk www.tuxgames.com and many others09:42
bz0bit reminds me of that crap sony is coming out with09:43
Sp4rKybz0b, and how could i do so09:43
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ntensewhat carp is sony coming  out with09:43
bz0bSp4rKy, umm let me think09:43
bz0bone sec09:43
Frogzootheeo123: you could just use pdf2ps09:43
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ompaulallisfree, when you go there come back and see if there is a .deb of your game09:44
bz0bSp4rKy, can you give me the link that is on the youtube web site09:44
Sp4rKybz0b, wait one sec09:44
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allisfreethx to all09:44
theeo123Frogzoo,  I'm assumign I can fidn that in synaptic?   how would i use it exaclty (I'm fairly new to linux)09:44
ompaul!tell theeo123 about repos09:45
Frogzootheeo123: cat blah.pdf | pdf2ps | lpr09:45
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Sp4rKybz0b, the main link is " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVI6xw9Zph8 "09:45
Arafangion$ apt-cache search cups | grep pdf09:45
Arafangioncups-pdf - PDF printer for CUPS09:45
polpakFrogzoo: I don't think you understood what he wanted09:45
FrogzooArafangion wins09:45
polpaktheeo123: he's looking for a way to publish pdf files I think09:46
polpaktheeo123: w/o using open office09:46
bz0bSp4rKy, http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php09:46
Frogzoopolpak: not sure his request was so specific to validly infer what he wanted :)09:46
theeo123more or less to save web-pages as PDf with less hassle to be really specific,  I'll be loosing my net conection in a few days :(09:46
polpaktheeo123: =(09:46
theeo123cutting & pasting entire pages to open office, so thaT ican export, tends to get rough if there's lots of images etc.09:47
Arafangiontheeo123: These days, a number of programs that use the 'proper' printing systems in gnome and kde can produce pdf files via a psuedo-printer, but imho, cups really should have the functionality so that "traditional" code can also utilise it.09:47
Arafangiontheeo123: The OpenOffice.org way will always be better, because it allows the possibility of having tables of contents, url's, etc.09:47
Sp4rKybz0b, it seems to work09:47
bz0bk09:47
ompaultheeo123, if you have a PDF or a text file and everything is set up right just typing >> lp FileName.pdf << can do the trick on the command line09:48
polpakompaul: I don't think you understood what he wanted either09:50
bz0bSp4rKy, good09:50
theeo123for those familiar with Windows i used to use a program from sourceforge.net called "createpdf" to acomplish what i wanted.09:50
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theeo123like siad cutting & pastign a few thousand word documant with multiple imagesi nto open office, tends to be messy, & hog system resources like nobodys buisness. it will work , but it's a pain09:51
Frogzoopolpak: if peeps don't get the answer they're looking for, it's up to them to rephrase the question09:51
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Guard] [anhello, anyone tried the paragon ntfs module that provides full ntfs write support ??? does it work withouh breaking data ?09:52
coyctecmdamn this gplflash is unstable09:52
Madpilottheeo123, cups-pdf will add an option to your print dialogues to "Print to PDF" instead of "Print to <your usual printer>"09:53
polpaktheeo123: I believe if you use firefox as your browser you can choose to print to a file09:53
ompaultheeo123, do this in a terminal "apt-cache search pdf | less " and then in another terminal do this "apt-cache show one_of_the_file_names_from_other_window"09:53
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joevandykHow stable is dapper these days?09:53
ompauljoevandyk, ask in the channel #ubuntu+109:53
FrogzooGuard] [an: Paragon seem to think so... o_O09:53
ompaultheeo123, you may find the info you want, I don't know of such a program09:54
theeo123Madpilot, how do I setpu cups-pdf  I isntalled in throguh synaptic, but didn't see any new options in the print dialogue09:54
oneitheeo123, i know i kinda missed your opening question, but are you actually wanting to print anything physical, or just save the webpages to disk?09:54
Madpilottheeo123, I didn't do any setup, AFAIK it should just appear09:54
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theeo123onei jsut to save the pages,09:54
theeo123Madpilot,  hmmm odd,  iperhaps i'll re-install it09:55
Sp4rKybz0b , i've downloaded it . Last question , how could i open .flv :/09:55
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Madpilottheeo123, you might have to restart cups (and no, I don't know how to do that myself) :P09:55
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theeo123AHH wiat found it09:56
ArafangionYou would also have to configure it.09:56
FrogzooMadpilot: probly /etc/init.d/cups restart09:56
theeo123prefrences,  printe,r  new printer,  and now ther' a "pdf printeR" listed as well as my physical printer09:56
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Guard] [anFrogzoo : yeah but i don't want to trash my 300gb ntfs hard drive :)09:57
theeo123But it still wants me to pick a driver ..... *scratches head**09:57
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Arafangiontheeo123: That'll be the cups-pdf driver.09:57
zhaoyunsongis there anyone use kylix09:57
Arafangiontheeo123: And afaik, there may be a parameter which tells it where to save the pdf, as you no-longer have control. It's a relatively poor way of handing pdf files.09:57
Madpilottheeo123, try a regular print dialogue - in Firefox or wherever - and see if it lists them both09:58
FrogzooGuard] [an: I'd suggest you read their testimonials - but you should be using backups regardless09:58
oneitheeo123, there is an extension for firefox called Scrapbook that saves pages (and recursively too) to your local harddisk. Its doesnt create pdfs, but it allows you to view the saved pages in an offline mannor.09:58
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zhaoyunsongis there anyone use kylix09:58
Frogzoozhaoyunsong: no spamming, pls09:58
zhaoyunsongsorry09:59
Arafangion!tell zhaoyunsong about ask09:59
Frogzoonp09:59
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jonathan_hello how are you all u09:59
FrogzooOT OT OT OT :p09:59
jonathan_so anyone from ohio in here10:00
Frogzoowell thx jonathan_ , & you?10:00
theeo123oaky  multipel replies.  Mdpilot,  it dosn't list the pdf printer, in any print dialogs yet, but it does list it under" add new printer"  but it wants me to pick a driver for it & I'm not sure wich to choose,  onei  I'll check that out , is it on the standard firefox add-ons page?10:00
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WharfHow can i gett gcc for ubuntu?10:00
Guard] [anFrogzoo : yeah, i also found this http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ , same question don't know how safe it is :)10:00
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mattafixhi10:00
Frogzoo!buildessential10:00
ubotuFrogzoo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:00
Frogzoo!build-essential10:00
ubotumethinks build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info10:00
jonathan_hey what's up10:00
Frogzoo!gcc10:00
ubotuI guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:00
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jonathan_so anyone from ohio just wonder10:01
mattafixcan you get flash with ubuntu10:01
Wharfso sudo apt-get install build-essential10:01
jonathan_i just got this software tonight so yeah10:01
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Wharfwill do the trick10:01
oneitheeo123, http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/ or just google "firefox scrapbook"10:01
Frogzoo!tell mattafix about restricted10:01
ompaul!offtopic10:01
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!10:01
ompaul!anyone10:01
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>10:01
ArafangionOnly 90%?10:01
FrogzooWharf: yup10:01
ompaulArafangion, we are kind :)10:02
Wharfcool10:02
theeo123so right now ,I've got the printers dialogue open , if i double click "new printer" on of hte "detected" printers, is lsited as PDf printer,  but it dosn't show up in any print dialogues, and if I select it and move forward, it asks me to specify a driver...10:03
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Arafangionompaul: Tough Love.10:03
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marlunIs it possible to somehow see whats new in the packages that "Software Updates" shows me?10:06
marlunlike a changelog10:06
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lodder_hallo10:07
lodder_can anybody help me installing the tool tovid10:08
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lodder_becuase i added a new package repository for it bu i have errors about broken packages10:08
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Madpilotmarlun, yes, click on the package, there are notes in the bottom pane of the Update Manager10:08
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marlunMadpilot, ah, fantastic, thanks! =)10:09
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marlunIs gnome not able to do true transparency? If I change to transparent background in gnome-terminal, I see the background and not the application behind the terminal.10:15
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Arafangionmarlun: Limitation of X11.10:16
marlunIs there any work on getting true transparency?10:17
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Ragolhi guys10:17
Arafangionmarlun: It's a *fundamental* limitation of X11, but yes, there is work done to achieve true transparency, I _think_ xorg has some work in that area.10:17
KirthHi, i've tried to install Dapper 6.04 Amd64 but always freeze while installing xserver-xorg al 60% of install. Any idea?10:17
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Sp4rKyhow could i open a .flv file ?10:18
RagolI have pentium D (double core) and I'm wondering if Ubuntu recognices it and can take an adwance of it10:19
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CarinArri would hate to see the other application behind my terminal10:20
marlunArafangion, what about that new thing from sun (I think) xgl or something?10:21
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CarinArri mean i have the "transparent" terminals atm.. but i have to keep my backgrounds really plain or it would do my head in10:21
joe_I'm using X via windows/cygwin to connect to my ubuntu box.  Say I need to restart windows.  Is there a way to keep my gnome session on ubuntu active?10:21
Frogzoomarlun: you need to access the transparency slider under options10:21
Ragolthis is 100% microsoft office, but I'10:21
Ragolsorry :)10:22
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RagolI'm thinkin about installing a linux box and using that for administration :)10:22
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Arafangionmarlun: I don't know about xgl, but there are hacks to allow transparent windows, (all of them), it's probable that some can be setup to be specifically transparent, but afaik, they might need to be specifically written.10:22
Ragolwindoes 2003 server (active directory of course) and terminal services are the things I should handle with this setup10:22
marlunCarinArr, I need to read whats under the terminal so I don't have to change window or move it all the time, thats why I wanted it :P10:22
FrogzooRagol: you should be able to get by with the Terminal Services Client10:22
Ragolokay10:23
dr_jhi all. ive installed webmin twice now in order to config samba and both times when ive turned the box off and come back to it.. i get connection refused and it seems as though webmin is no longer installed. any ideas?10:23
marlunFrogzoo, transparency slider?10:23
ArafangionRagol: You might be interested in Samba4's development.10:23
marlunArafangion, ok, I'll just change the damn windows for now =P10:23
RagolArafangion: some new interesting things coming?10:23
Frogzoomarlun: edit -> current profile -> effects      but no, you still won't be able to see the text underneath10:23
ArafangionRagol: It allows you to manage windows comptuers on the network via any browser.10:24
ArafangionRagol: Client comptuers only need a javascript enabled browser, and access to a Samba4 server.10:24
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ArafangionRagol: Which is able to function as a complete AD server (When it's finished)10:24
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RagolArafangion: okay, I'll look at it when I just get the machine up10:25
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marlunFrogzoo, I know about that, you missed the beginning of the conversation :P10:25
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Frogzoomarlun: so sue me :p10:25
ArafangionRagol: Though, for now, I'd still use samba3.10:25
ArafangionFrogzoo: He wants true transparency.10:25
marlunFrogzoo, Don't have the time :P10:26
Ragolbut it will not replace our servers, I just would like to have a linux as my desktop machine10:26
ArafangionFrogzoo: Not psuedo-transparency where you can see right through to the "root window", but you don't see any of the other windows that should be in between.10:26
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Ragoland because our servers are win2003, I must be able to admin them10:26
burning_bronxRagol, switch all servers to Debian sarge and you will live a better life10:26
burning_bronxyou may even go to heaven10:26
ArafangionRagol: imho, you would be better off using windows tools to manage windows servers. They are *incredibly* finicky.10:27
FujitsuYes.10:27
RagolArafangion: yep, I know that, but I just have too much time here :)10:27
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ArafangionRagol: Nice.10:27
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Assassin5i'm running tar to backup various areas of my mailserver to a SMB mounted share. If I try and run this tar ro one machine (W2K Server) it constantly fails with I/O errors and broken pipe errors. To a WinXP share it is fine. any reason this should happen, or any ideas how to work round it in the mount command?10:28
ArafangionAssassin5: How big is the tar?10:29
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Assassin5about 1.3gb in the end10:29
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Assassin5I've also tried just backing up each area to one tar10:29
ArafangionAssassin5: You're not the only one with the problem.10:29
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Assassin5Arafangion, i see10:30
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ArafangionAssassin5: I think I remember seeing someone trying to do this with a 1GB+ file on samba-technical@samba.org, try looking at this or last month's archives.10:30
ArafangionAssassin5: I don't know if it was resolved.10:30
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ArafangionAssassin5: But there were quite a few emails sent between teh parties.10:31
Assassin5Arafangion, ok thanks. I will have a look at that10:31
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Guard] [anwhich offers better performance ??? reiserfs 3 or ext3 ???10:33
FrogzooGuard] [an: for most purposes, damn as no difference10:33
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Guard] [ani'm installing a laptop, dell inspiron, i guess i'll go ext310:34
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FrogzooGuard] [an: that's best, imo10:34
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Ragolso, no one have any opinions (or experiences) about pentium D and Ubuntu? :)10:34
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FrogzooRagol: try any SMP kernel - you should be right10:36
Ragolokay10:36
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cwilluI was changing a theme, and applied it;  it seems like half the windows are now frozen (it sure didn't seem to finish applying the theme);  how can I recover from this without restarting x?10:40
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cwillunotably, the x-terminal-ubuntu window works fine,10:40
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Dr3asI'm trying to get the nvidia driver to work on my computer. I have a 7800GT gfxcard and amdx2 cpu. After enableing the driver, either the one from the repositroy or the one from nvidia.com the screen gets black, no signal. i can hear the sound etc10:42
Dr3asanyone with a idea?10:42
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gnomefreakDr3as: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure its using nvidia driver than restartx10:43
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gnomefreakDr3as: also make sure it has you nvidia card as the one being used10:43
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Linux_Konganyone have any idea why I cant select 12 hour anymore in the clock on the gnome panel? is that just standard now?10:43
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squirrelpimphi10:44
squirrelpimpcan i ask questions regarding dapper here, too? or is there an extra dev-channel?10:44
Frogzoo!tell Dr3as about nvidia10:44
cwillu#ubuntu+1 for dapper10:44
gnomefreaksquirrelpimp: #ubuntu+1 is for dapper10:44
CrazyOneis there a way of resetting ubuntu back to how it was originally installed without cd?10:44
snowblinkLinux_Kong, clock->preferences select 12 hour ?10:45
squirrelpimpgnomefreak: thx10:45
gnomefreakyw10:45
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burning_bronxCrazyOne, only if you know exactly what changes you made to it10:46
burning_bronxand how to revert them of course10:46
FrogzooCrazyOne: no, you'll need to reinstall & format your partitions & needs the cd10:46
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burning_bronxFrogzoo, that's the windows way10:46
gnomefreakthe cd has a fix mode to it too:)10:47
Frogzooburning_bronx: :/10:47
CrazyOneburning_bronx i downloaded a driver for finepix digi cal cam, since i installed driver (to work as webcam) i cant mount the camera at all10:47
Dr3asit's the right driver and right card, if i change nvidia with nv everything works nice10:47
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gnomefreakDr3as: i had to do that too :(10:48
burning_bronxCrazyOne, how did you install the driver? A Deb file? Or you compiled from source?10:48
CrazyOnetar.gz make make install10:48
gnomefreakDr3as: after re starting X run glxgears -printfps and see wha tthe fps is it should be in the thousands atleast10:48
gnomefreakmake checkinstall :)10:49
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burning_bronxCrazyOne, that's pretty... unappropriate... you should have used checkinstall10:49
Dr3asgnomefreak: but with nv i dont get 3d do i?10:49
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gnomefreakDr3as: thats why i had you run that command to find out10:49
CrazyOneim a newbie to linux, what is checkinstall?10:49
FrogzooDr3as: did you read the pm from ubotu?10:50
gnomefreakubotu tell CrazyOne about checkinstall10:50
burning_bronxunless you have installwatch which you don't there is no way you can trace the things make install installed/chhange10:50
burning_bronx*changed10:50
burning_bronxCrazyOne, check your PM from ubotu10:50
CrazyOneok thanks10:50
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Dr3asi've read the wikihowtoo, cheking the forumposts now10:50
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Linux_Kongsnowblink: nah, cant select that, thats the odd thing10:51
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gnomefreakDr3as: when you run the above command is the last number in each line in the thousands?10:52
gnomefreakor higher10:52
Wharfhow do i findout my lan ip?10:53
Wharfon ubunr10:53
Dr3asi'm at work atm, so can't test before i'm home10:53
Wharfubuntu10:53
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bimberiWharf: ifconfig10:53
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gnomefreakoh ok theres also a command to check direct rendering (just tried what i thought they were and they are not :(10:53
burning_bronxg00d 0l3 ifconfig ;)10:53
burning_bronxnever fails ;P10:54
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ArafangionDr3as: You don't get 3d accel with the 'nv' driver, period. You do with the Nvidia (Or is it NVidia?) driver.10:54
bimberignomefreak: glxinfo | grep direct10:54
ArafangionDr3as: Every time you install a new kernel, you have to re-install the nvidia driver.10:54
gnomefreakty bimberi10:54
WharfTa, is there a way i can make that static?10:54
bimberignomefreak: yvw :)10:54
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gnomefreakDr3as: also run the command that bimberi just gave when you get infront of pc10:55
burning_bronxArafangion, it's nVidia :) and yes we all hate them.10:55
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gnomefreakthats only if you are compiling own kernel10:55
Dr3asArafangion: it's a new installation10:55
mitja_how can I show all symlinks pointing to a file?10:55
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Dr3asfirst upgraded kernel to k7-smp10:56
Dr3asthen startet with drivers10:56
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burning_bronxsmooth as silk ;)10:56
burning_bronxand the installation is just 5 megs :)10:56
Dr3asgot a tip, maybe try a older driver.. hmm.. will test that too10:57
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Assassin5Arafangion, couldn't find that thread, just a reference to a problem like that with no replies, but I think it might be because the machine has samba 2.2.7a on it.10:57
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burning_bronxDr3as, so you're havin' problems with your nvidia drivers?10:57
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Dr3asyes, just getting a blackscreen10:57
Dr3asi can hear the sound etc10:58
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burning_bronxwith the ones from nvidia's website10:58
Dr3asyes, and the ones from the repository10:58
mAIJKHi, I have an Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, I want to be able to navigate forward and backward in my webbrowser (Firefox, xubuntu). How and where do I make this possible?10:58
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burning_bronxI'd reckong you've checked if xorg.conf is not still using the nv drivers?10:58
burning_bronx*reckon10:58
gnomefreakburning_bronx: the nv drivers work but the nvidia drivers dont i told him to use the nv than :)10:59
gnomefreakiirc mines on nv10:59
burning_bronxbut nv doesn't have 3d accel..10:59
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burning_bronxdoes it?10:59
gnomefreakburning_bronx: i do10:59
Ngburning_bronx: correct11:00
Dr3asi'm trying to show mye friends that it is possible to play games on a linuxbox11:00
burning_bronxhuh11:00
burning_bronxyou two are contradicting11:00
Dr3asso 3d is something i need11:00
gnomefreaki have 3d accel its only 2000fps but i have it11:00
burning_bronxDr3as, is possible of course but nvidia has always been problematic...11:00
Ngburning_bronx: 3d stuff will still work because it'll fall back on software rendering, but it won't be accelerated like the binary nvidia driver is11:00
burning_bronxit's the manufacturer's fault11:00
burning_bronxI guess11:01
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burning_bronxhowever I hear ATIs are runnin' cool on Dapper11:01
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ompaul!dapper11:02
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update11:02
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twa1296i want to backup a website, any tools for this in ubuntu?11:03
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Dr3aswell i'll try more this weekend11:03
ompaultwa1296, dump the database and tar it up11:03
Dr3asmaybe som older drives from nvidia.com will do the trick11:03
ompaulthen consider compression11:03
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burning_bronxDr3as, what's your nvidia?11:04
twa1296ompaul, you mean download the dbase via ftp? that should suffice?11:04
ompaultwa1296, no you should "dump" contents11:04
Dr3asthe lastest on the website11:05
ompaultwa1296, no you should "dump" contents this means you have it frozen at that time11:05
burning_bronx:)11:05
burning_bronxo_O;11:05
chrisw69Hi I'm having problems compiling with c++, i've installed it all, I'm new to linux and used to dev-cpp and visual studio11:05
ompaultwa1296, that and the contents of the site should all be put in a "tarball" tar cvf my.tar data/* and away you go11:06
burning_bronxchrisw69, what you tryin' to compile and what have you done so far?11:06
Hobbseechriswk: you're using "g++ blah.cpp -o foo"?11:06
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chrisw69no11:06
chrisw69just a simple application I made11:06
chrisw69i.e cout << "hello" << std::endl;11:06
twa1296ompaul, thanks, i think i see11:06
chrisw69the code is fine11:06
Hobbseechrisw69: yep, it is - so you wan tto know how to compile it?11:06
burning_bronxaaah the hello11:06
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=== Hobbsee has been writing hello world programs recently - it's fun lol!
chrisw69sure11:07
chrisw69I installed anjuta as an IDE11:07
chrisw69I've been trying to compile it in there11:07
Hobbseechriswk: use (thru a command line) "g++ blah.cpp -o foo"11:07
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chrisw69hmm11:07
Hobbseei dont know about GUI programs to do it though11:07
Hobbseebut that works just fine11:07
chrisw69Don't you need to make an object file first?11:07
chrisw69then link it?11:07
chrisw69I've only worked with windows :S11:08
gnomefreakin anjuta if you look at bottom it will give you a cli11:08
Hobbseechrisw69: no, it does it automatically, as far as i know11:08
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chrisw69that's good11:08
chrisw69well11:08
gnomefreakchrisw69: compile it as he said g++ foo.cpp -o foo11:08
Hobbseechrisw69: then to run the file you got, ./foo11:08
Hobbseepsst.. gnomefreak...she...11:08
Hobbsee:P11:08
burning_bronxHobbsee, :)11:09
Hobbseehehe11:09
gnomefreakoops :(11:09
burning_bronxglad to see some female action around here ;)11:09
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Hobbseeno problems gnomefreak - it happens often enough :P11:09
burning_bronxwell you asked for it! Talking bout compiling and stuff lol11:09
burning_bronx;)11:09
gnomefreaklol11:09
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Hobbseeheh11:10
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chrisw69I'm not used to cc either11:10
Hobbseeburning_bronx: i'm doing few computing units in my degree - so of course i have to know how to compile c++ programs :P11:10
chrisw69I keep thinking it's a c file11:10
burning_bronx;P11:11
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gnomefreakchrisw69: C use gcc instead of g++ the rest is same11:11
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burning_bronxlspci11:11
burning_bronxoops11:11
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burning_bronxdamn touchpad switchin' my windows >.>11:12
chrisw69damnit11:12
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CarinArrheh.. touchpads are evil11:12
gnomefreaksmart move11:12
burning_bronxindeed they are11:12
chrisw69gnomefreak, lol i meant the files11:12
chrisw69my c++ files in anjuta are being created as .cc11:12
lamer1How do I disable Shift+Backspace ( which restarts my XGL ) ?11:12
chrisw69I'm used to .cpp11:12
CarinArrchrisw69, er.. does it make an actual difference?11:13
gnomefreaklol11:13
chrisw69not really11:13
gnomefreakCarinArr: if hes using g++ foo.cpp i would say it does11:13
chrisw69just confusing at first11:13
chrisw69lol11:13
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CarinArrheh, well that's easily fixed;)11:13
chrisw69I'm a noob to linux11:13
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CarinArranyway11:14
chrisw69I've used c++ before and written a lot of classes that I'd like to run on linux11:14
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Jhairg++ recognizes .cpp files as C++ files11:14
chrisw69Do you have any experience with anjuta IDE CarinArr ?11:14
CarinArrjhair, yeah, but only if there IS one that's actually .cpp;)11:14
Q-FUNKis the version of ubuntu-artwork that existed until about 1 week ago still downloadable somewhere?11:15
CarinArrchrisw69, nope.. i had it open for all of half an hour and hated it11:15
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CarinArri much prefer kdevelop11:15
chrisw69I'd use gedit for compiling small applcations but when the size starts getting larger I'd find problems11:16
chrisw69FOrgetting the odd } or {  is a problem!!11:16
chrisw69lol11:16
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CarinArrwell yeah.. if i'm doing something smaller i would use vim, just gets a bit unmanagable when your project's growing out of proportion11:17
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ArafangionCarinArr: I disagree.11:19
chrisw69ahh I think i've gotten the hang of Anjuta IDE now11:19
GnarusLeoHi! I have a intel wireless adapter on my Laptop which was installed succesfully. Now, my wireless settings have a WEP key and its not _open_ its _shared_ ... This option I cannot change in the Network GUI settings in ubuntu. Anyone know how ?11:19
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CarinArrarafangion, that's okay, we all use what works for ourselves11:19
ArafangionCarinArr: True :) I'm forced to use VS C++ atm, so I'm fighting atm.11:20
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: I don't have an exact answer... but the regular Ubuntu network stuff seems only to work with "open" security. If you need "shared", try network-manager.11:20
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concept10Any themers lurking here?11:20
gnomefreakchrisw69: anjuta and kdevelop are the 2 easiest IDE's to use imo11:20
GnarusLeoTomcat_, k, thanks, Ill try11:20
chrisw69yea, I didn't realise it  had to build aswell11:21
ArafangionCarinArr: I'm considering learning emacs, but my carpal tunnel might not be able to tolerate it.11:21
CarinArri just haven't found a managable way of having x number of files open in vim and not confuse them11:21
chrisw69IT does the stages of compiling and linking seperately11:21
chrisw69I'm used to emulating gcc and g++ with mingw3211:21
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chrisw69So I know the commands etc11:21
ArafangionCarinArr: I generally work in one file at a time, vim encourages large files, but within the file, it is exceptionally good.11:22
ArafangionCarinArr: Different editor, different use pattern. VS appears to encourage enourmous classes.11:22
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chrisw69Arafangion, use your toes!11:22
concept10CarinArr, splitting the screen horizontally is what I do in ViM11:22
CarinArryeah of course, but when your project involves a bucketload of different files and you want to tweak bits in each of them as you go, it isn't particularly managable11:23
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Arafangionchrisw69: Heh.11:23
concept10CarinArr, I meant vertically11:23
ArafangionCarinArr: I have at most four files open at once in vim.11:23
LasseLeclipse is also a possibility for C/C++ now11:23
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CarinArrheh, i didn't even notice you said horizontally;)11:23
ArafangionCarinArr: But my laptop has an enourmous resolution, so that helps.11:23
concept10but of course I use Cream for Vim!11:23
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chrisw69is gcc the native compiler for linux?11:23
CarinArrfour files is fine.. in fact, i can probably manage 6 or so files11:24
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CarinArrwithout getting confused11:24
LasseLhttp://www.eclipse.org/cdt/11:24
concept10I just wish I new how to open a command prompt in cream11:24
Arafangionchrisw69: A particular version of gcc will normally be the native compiler for your particular distro (and version).11:24
concept10*knew11:24
Arafangionchrisw69: gcc == Gnu Compiler *Collection*, so you also get g++ for c++ files, gcc for c files, gcj for java files, gcf(?) for fortran...11:25
Arafangion(Or was it f77 for fortran?)11:25
GnarusLeoTomcat_, Ok, Ive installed network manager .. but theres just alot of deamons ..11:25
CarinArrbut at the moment the project i'm working on far exceeds 611:25
GnarusLeoTomcat_, is there a configure bin or something?11:25
ArafangionCarinArr: I find that I'm rarely editing more than one file at a time, even if there's, say, 10.11:25
JhairArafangion: is f7711:25
ArafangionJhair: Thanks.11:26
chrisw69gcf?11:26
chrisw69oh11:26
CarinArrit depends what i'm doing, what sort of project i'm working on11:26
chrisw69me bad11:26
chrisw69didn't read11:26
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chrisw69So dynamic libaries11:26
chrisw69is there such a thing?11:26
ArafangionCarinArr: I do tend to have my code documentation as well.11:27
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Arafangionchrisw69: Of course.11:27
chrisw69I've never seen a dll on linux is the procedure the same11:27
Arafangionchrisw69: And they're much better on linux than they are on windows.11:27
chrisw69=] 11:27
chrisw69Everything seems so much better11:27
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: Yeah, follow the instruction on the wiki page...11:27
Arafangionchrisw69: Your entire /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/share/lib are all generally .so files (Shared Object)11:27
GnarusLeoTomcat_, will do11:27
chrisw69sure11:27
GnarusLeoTomcat_, was just about to go there :) Srry11:27
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager?action=show&redirect=NetworkmanagerHowto11:28
Arafangionchrisw69: Which, are functionally equivalent.11:28
concept10how do you guys like this: http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4dg.png11:28
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burning_bronxhmmm for some wicked reason my touchpad won't stop working :/11:28
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: Usually you just have to add "nm-applet" to your gnome startup.11:28
Jhairchrisw69: you can find dll under linux though. In systems which use wine, the windows emulator. I think mplayer also uses dlls for some codecs.11:28
CarinArrburning_bronx, ah, yes, been there11:28
CarinArr;)11:28
burning_bronxCarinArr, so?11:28
Arafangionconcept10: I prefer to have :split's as well as the :vsplit's you have there.11:28
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chrisw69ok sure11:29
chrisw69thanks11:29
Arafangionconcept10: But your screen is tiny compared to mine, also, I also prefer vim on xterm (fastest combination, imho)11:29
burning_bronxin dapper and in breezy as well I have been able to disable it in times past11:29
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: And NetworkManager can do "shared" auth, while regular gnome can't, at least not with my AP... but NM is much better anyway.11:29
Arafangionchrisw69: Windows uses coff libraries, afaik.11:29
burning_bronxand I am certain it shouldn't be working now but it is...11:29
Tomcat_GnarusLeo: It'll do just about anything automatically with your wireless.11:29
Dr3asburning_bronx: open your laptop and disconnect it :p11:29
CarinArrburning_bronx, to be honest i can't quite remember how i solved it.. i couldn't use the default driver in xorg tho, had to change it to something else, and i couldn't disable the touchpad without the "nipple" getting turned off as well.. oh AND, i couldn't use a ps/2 mouse at the same time cause it would override whatever touchpad settings i had11:29
concept10Arafangion, I am starting to like splits better than tabs, because you may resize them. I love it11:29
Arafangionchrisw69: While linux uses elf11:29
Arafangionconcept10: Yes, so while you have fewer files open, it's more accessible.11:30
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chrisw69well I've mounted my programming partition so I can access my sources there11:30
chrisw69=] 11:30
burning_bronxCarinArr, I am using a USB mouse without any problems, also I've been able to disable the darn thing b411:30
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burning_bronxhave no clue what trick it's playin' on me now11:31
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CarinArri still maintain it's not managable when you're working on large projects.. if you are using something and quickly need to look up the signature of functions in different classes11:31
ArafangionCarinArr: I use documentation for that.11:31
CarinArrthere's no way i can keep all the classes i might need to use open in different vim windows, even if i use split windows combined with multiple screens11:31
JhairCarinArr: in Emacs you can use the etags system to find declarations of functions or variables11:32
CarinArrbut then you have to actually go and look in the documentation, which means it takes longer11:32
Jhairall that is a matter of taste though11:32
ArafangionCarinArr: Just a moement while I find out what the one I use atm is called, but I use a tool that produces html documentation.11:32
CarinArrjhair, i am not emacs compatible:)11:32
CarinArrdoxygen?11:32
ArafangionCarinArr: alt-tab :)11:32
ArafangionYup, doxygen11:32
JhairCarinArr: etags works with vim too :)11:32
liableburning_bronx: normally in bios.11:32
CarinArrdoxygen is fine, but you still have to navigate the documentation11:32
CarinArrand alt-tab has nothing on screen:)11:33
burning_bronxliable, why screw around in bios if I can do it through X >.>11:33
ArafangionCarinArr: It does switch between xterm and the browser, though :)11:33
CarinArrburning_bronx, yeah, if you don't have a "nipple" and you just want it turned off all together, you can turn it off in bios11:33
liableburning_bronx: haha, yes..11:33
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CarinArrcause disabling it in bios is probably a lot damned easier;)11:34
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n4th4nhi all11:34
albertoalguien sabe como ver la tele a pantalla completa??? si los putos bordes negros11:34
CarinArrArafangion, yeah, but then i'd still have to click my way through the menues in the docs to get to the class i'm wanting to look at11:34
ArafangionCarinArr: You still would in most ide's.11:35
burning_bronxCarinArr, if you know what you're doing editing the xorg.conf is easier >.>11:35
CarinArrburning_bronx, if the driver is working as it should, which, with my touchpad, it wasn't11:35
Jhair.11:36
burning_bronxCarinArr, that's what I meant11:36
burning_bronxback to business11:36
chrisw69ack11:36
chrisw69ok11:36
chrisw69sockets on linux11:36
chrisw69SOCKET _sock;11:36
chrisw69is causing me problems11:36
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n4th4nc qualche italiano?11:37
liable!it11:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:37
CarinArrjhair, will have a look at the etags thing11:37
Jhairchrisw69: sockets handling is not trivial, I would you recommend to take a look to the 'Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment' from Richard Stevens11:37
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Jhairchrisw69: the man pages of the relevant system calls are also a good source of information11:38
anakronismei was wondering - ubuntuguide.org says to apt-get libdvdcss2 for dvd-playback, but that isnt working any longer (i think the guide refers to hoary) - anyone have any idea what to do?11:38
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rob!ubuntuguide11:38
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead11:38
robanakronisme, ^11:38
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anakronismeoh :)11:39
anakronismeheh, and i thought it was such a nice page :)11:39
anakronismethanks11:39
roball that info in on the wiki, also check out http://doc.ubuntu.com for the official docs11:39
albertonadie sabe como poner la tele en pantalla completa si los bordes??11:39
ravihey, can someone tell me what package to install to get ncurses.h ? how do I figure it out, using dpkg -L?11:39
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GnarusLeoTomcat_, thanks ... that was neat :)11:39
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Dr3asuse apt-cache search ncurs11:40
pdHi all, this is not a Ubuntu  specific question11:40
pdbut how can I find all the files with time stamp May 200511:40
raviDr3as, too much output/noise. Not helping ... I already installed a dozen ncurses things ... sigh.11:40
pdman find is too exhaustive to find out11:40
pdand I am a strter in linux11:40
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s6n1-10slt11:44
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s6n1-10nederlands11:44
s6n1-10hallo11:44
s6n1-10we zijn in belgie11:44
s6n1-10in wallonie11:44
CarinArr!nl11:45
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.11:45
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raviD'oh, libncurses5-dev was what I wanted :)11:45
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Jhairpd: the following works for me11:47
Jhairfind . -name *.cpp -print | xargs stat -c '%y %n' | grep ^'2006-01'11:47
Jhairpd change 2006-01 to 2005-01 for the may files11:47
Jhairpd and change the *.cpp for \* for all files11:48
Jhairpd anyway you get the idea11:48
raviJhair, 2006-05, you mean? :)11:48
Jhairravi: pd was looking for a way to find the files which where modified on may 200511:48
gnomefreak2005-05 maybe even11:49
raviD'oh, double typo :(11:49
raviJhair, my bad.11:49
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Jhairravi: it was my typo you were right! I wrote "2005-01 for the may files" I am a dork :)11:50
ravianyhoo, back to the real world for me.11:50
dabaRthe real world?11:50
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suppamanhi11:51
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raviJhair, lol, don't sweat it. I was actually thinking the solution to pk's problem was to inspect st_atime/st_mtime/st_ctime with a stat() call ... that's how dorky and low on sleep I am :(11:51
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gnomefreakis there another way to split command other than &&?11:51
chrisw69hello!!11:51
chrisw69back again11:51
liable;11:52
ravidabaR, *nod* -- I haven't slept in um, about 30 hours. Time to get some shut-eye ... it's 05.51 ;/11:52
chrisw69can anyone tell me how to install amsn .095?11:52
gnomefreakchrisw69: in breezy?11:52
chrisw69plz11:52
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chrisw69It has 0.94 installed but I don't have a clue what to do11:52
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chrisw69I'm using web messenger atm11:52
gnomefreakchrisw69: you might find a .deb on their site if not you would need to compile it11:52
Jhairgnomefreak: what do you mean by split? && is the AND operator in bash...11:52
dabaRchrisw69: did you read the forums? they have it shown there I bet.11:53
chrisw69yes there is a .deb11:53
gnomefreakJhair: to run 2 commands split might have been a bad word to use11:53
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chrisw69but I don't know what to do with it =/11:53
chrisw69<- real noob11:53
gnomefreakchrisw69: download the .deb than run sudo dpkg -i file.deb to install it11:53
chrisw69super star11:53
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chrisw69Do I not need tcl or whatever it is?11:54
Sp4rKyanyone knows how read a .flv under linux ?11:54
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Jhairgnomefreak: ; & && || all are used to list 2 or more commands to execute11:55
gnomefreakchrisw69: that i cant answer i have never used amsn but i dont see why you would need it11:55
JhairSp4rKy: those generated by google video?11:55
gnomefreakok ty Jhair11:55
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GnaLeoDoes gaim support skins? Sourceforge is down11:55
Sp4rKyJhair, maybe , but me it's a file downloaded from youtube11:55
chrisw69aren't they just bitwise operators for XOR/AND/NAND etc?11:56
pdJhair: thankyou very mich11:56
pdJhair: just saw your message11:56
dabaRGnaLeo: I have not seen skins.11:56
pdthat was very useful to me11:56
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gnomefreakGnaLeo: look on gaims site maybe they have them there (doesnt know but i would start there)11:56
cwilluare there any applets to do mouse guestures in gnome?11:57
GnaLeognomefreak, ok, but the gnome.sourceforge.org is unreachable at the moment .. thanks11:57
gnomefreakGnaLeo: thats not the gaim site11:57
cwillusourceforge.net isn't it?11:57
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Dr3asto get the newest amsn i first install the one from the repository, and then upgrade11:57
GnaLeoyes,s orry ... .net11:57
concept10where are the mouse pointer icon themes stored?11:57
Dr3aswork like a charm11:57
dabaRchrisw69: no like, aptitude update && aptitude upgrade, if update is successful, then the upgrade runs. aptitude update || mail blah@blah -t "not successful..." if update not successful, then email blah.11:57
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chrisw69o-011:58
chrisw69ok thx for the help guys11:58
chrisw69bye!11:58
dabaR!deb11:58
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)11:58
aeolist!dapper11:58
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update11:58
aeolist:/11:58
gnomefreakhttp://sourceforge.net/   <<is working for me11:59
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GnaLeognomefreak, yes, for me as well .. but not http://gaim.sourceforge.net12:00
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GnaLeognomefreak, really? I cant connect at all12:03
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gnomefreakGnaLeo: use http://sourceforge.net/ and search for gaim12:04
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Digisi have ibm thinkpad T43, I edit xorg.conf and write 1280x1024 resolution, but xorg still uses 1024x768 resolution. why? how to fix it?12:04
GnaLeoi did12:04
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GnaLeomaybe its opera f**ning it up ..12:04
Mind-Rothi all12:05
cwilluDigis, can you change it from administration | screen resolution12:05
cwillu?12:05
gnomefreakthe site you gave works here also12:05
Dr3asDigis: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?12:05
Mind-Roti just installed Ubuntu on my laptop to check it out :D12:05
gnomefreakand yes on the site that you posted there are themes :)12:05
gnomefreakhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=746976&group_id=235&func=browse12:05
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GnaLeoswitching to firefox :)12:06
Digiscwillu, it displays only 1024x76812:06
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DigisDr3as, isnt't editing xorg.conf enough?12:06
GnaLeowell there you go .. it worked12:06
cwilludpkg is more likely to get it right :)12:07
cwilluin general at least12:07
GnaLeognomefreak, but still ... no skins :(12:07
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gnomefreakGnarusLeo: i didnt know what they were i saw themes figured it might have what you wanted i didnt see skins on any of the other 5 pages i went through12:08
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gnomefreakbrb12:08
Mind-Rotdoes anyone know good mirrors for ap-get ?12:08
Mind-Rot*apt12:08
Hobbsee!mirrors12:10
ubotumethinks mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive12:10
HobbseeMind-Rot: ^12:10
Mind-Rotthx12:10
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p3pp3hejsam12:12
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robinl1hey, i just saw Automatix and had an idea12:13
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robinl1i'm gonna make my own app which turns Ubuntu to a distribution with all my apps and all my artwork, lol12:14
robinl1into*12:14
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robinl1now the question was..12:14
aeolistpws to len to paketo12:14
roberto_hello, ciao ragazzi!12:14
gnomefreak!it12:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:14
robinl1how to set gnome settings via command line?12:14
roberto_Excuseme12:15
roberto_I don't know12:15
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gnomefreakroberto_: we speak english in this channel use #ubuntu-it for italian12:15
drelchhi12:15
drelch#ubuntu-de12:15
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GnarusLeoHow do I install new logon screens? GDM?12:17
robinl1how to set gnome settings via command line?12:17
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gnomefreakGnarusLeo: install gnome-art :)12:17
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GnarusLeoty :)12:17
gnomefreakyw12:18
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GnarusLeoglad your around gnomefreak .. heh12:18
gnomefreakty ;)12:18
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Digiscwillu, Dr3as dpkg-reconfigure didn't helped12:19
cyphasehmm, i never knew you could use Alt+MiddleClick to resize a window until i saw it in XGL12:21
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gnomefreakcyphase: can you do that outside of xgl?12:21
cyphaseyea12:21
cyphaseand i assume you can change the keys12:21
cyphaseyou can in compiz12:22
gnomefreakoh ok alot of the commands or kwy combos only work in xgl wasnt sure about that one12:22
cyphasenp :)12:22
cyphasehave you tried xgl yet?12:22
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cyphasewhy not?12:22
gnomefreakoh yeah12:22
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gnomefreakwasnt able to get it to do what i wanted and it killled synaptic or gksudo12:23
cyphaseoh12:23
cyphasein ubuntu12:23
cyphaselol12:23
cyphasetry the XGL Live CD12:23
robinl1how to set gnome settings via command line?12:23
cyphaseit's great, everything is enabled, and it works perfect12:23
GnarusLeognomefreak, the "install" tab is faded out? Even sudoet it12:23
GnarusLeognomefreak, can only "download only" :)12:24
gnomefreakGnarusLeo: install tab?12:24
GnarusLeooption ..12:24
gnomefreakGnarusLeo: yes i know12:24
cyphasegnomefreak, http://getkororaa.com/12:24
cyphaseit's a gentoo based distro12:24
cyphasethey've created an XGL live cd12:24
gnomefreakGnarusLeo: once downloaded you can than add it to the gdm installer12:24
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GnarusLeoaha!12:25
gnomefreakty cyphase ill look at it12:25
cyphasenp12:25
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cyphaseyour welcome*12:25
cyphase:P12:25
peranyone read this!?12:25
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cyphaseper, read what?12:25
GnarusLeognomefreak, where is the gdm installer?12:25
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GnarusLeonever mind GnarusLeo  .. damn im stupid today :)12:26
gnomefreakGnarusLeo: system>admin>log-in setup12:26
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perSorry, I wasnt sure that I could get through to you guys... has logged on for the first time on xchat...12:26
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gnomefreakbbl12:31
C-O-L-TThis kororaa thing is marvelous12:32
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aeolistwhat kororaa thing?12:33
ubuntupar quoi commencer sur ubuntu12:33
C-O-L-Taeolist: http://getkororaa.com/12:33
ompaul!fr12:33
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:33
aeolist!gr12:33
ompaulubuntu,  pour vour >>>>/join #ubuntu-fr<<<<<12:33
ubotuElate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi12:33
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aeolistempty ubuntu-gr channel :(12:34
ompaulubuntu s/vour/vous/12:34
KuDeTaanyone arround?12:34
KuDeTagood12:34
Jhairwhat practical purpose does have 'Display svg picture on top of cube' !?12:34
ompaulaeolist, stay there :-) and here12:34
KuDeTaanyone with any knowledge about the acx100 wlan driver?12:34
KuDeTaits loaded12:34
KuDeTabut my wireless card wont work12:34
aeolistompaul, sounds like a plan12:34
KuDeTaiwlist wlan0 scan > no scan results12:35
KuDeTai was wondering how to set the ap's mac address to connect to, im too nub with nix and i cant edit the interfaces file manually12:35
KuDeTais there a command from the terminal to select a specific AP mac12:35
ompaulKuDeTa, can you put all your thoughts on the one line please, that way you can be followed, and sorry don't do wireless at all so can't tell you anything other than look here System > administration > networking12:36
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ompaulKuDeTa, I presume you have looked at wiki.ubuntu.com and searched for wireless12:36
KuDeTathey wont fit on one line..unless your screen is very wide :)12:36
KuDeTaompaul yes yes i have12:37
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ompaulKuDeTa, what I meant was use commas not enter :-)12:37
KuDeTaits something to dow ith this driver/firmware im pretty sure, ubuntu comes wiwth an old version of the driver..i think maybe next step is to uninstall that module/driver and install the new one12:38
aeolistcommas or shift + enter :P12:38
KuDeTai have no idea how to do this however :)12:38
FargoHello. Iv installed Apache, MySQL and PHP on my Ubuntu Linux machine. I installed mysqladmin so I can control mysql via the webbrowser, but I cant find it. Apache, MySQL and PHP works fine, but I cant find mysqladmin on my ip, 10.0.0.12/mysqladmin. Any suggestions ?12:38
KuDeTaif the module is called acx_pci can someone give me the commands to uninstall it?12:39
ompaulKuDeTa, check out ndiswrapper some of the instructions there may be of use12:39
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KuDeTadont wanna use that.. ther is a "propper" driver like i siad12:39
ompaulKuDeTa, do this in a terminal >> rmmod name <<12:40
ompaulKuDeTa, before you do type  >>man rmmod <<12:40
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GnarusLeoHi again. I shared a folder with the "system - admin - sharing" thing (SMB) .. but when I try to access it from a comouter it asks for a passwd ... where do I unset this?12:41
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GnarusLeoI can find the folder from a remote computer, but just no access it12:42
Mind-Rotyeah that happened to me also, i tried using my login pwd but it didnt work12:42
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KuDeTapaul..ill have to reboot into ubuntu12:43
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KuDeTaso is that all i need to do to remove it?12:44
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Enthusiast78Greetings! How can I make xchat not display the server list on startup but also automatically connect?12:44
Mind-Rotthats all in the options12:45
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Mind-Rottheres a box that says "skip server list on startup"12:45
V4VendettaHELLO, is cooky puss home12:45
aeolistno, he's at work12:46
Mind-Rotand on the server, click the edit button and tick "autoconnect to this server at startup"12:46
Enthusiast78Mind-Rot, That's ok, but then it just starts up and sit there, disconnected... I'd like it to connect directly to this server/channel, for example.12:46
Enthusiast78Mind-Rot, Hmmm, sorry. :o)12:46
V4Vendettaaeolist~ it's a woman..12:46
Enthusiast78Micksa, And thanks!12:46
Enthusiast78oops12:46
Enthusiast78Mind-Rot, Thanks!12:46
Assassin5and you can add channels to auto connect to at startup12:46
aeolistwhatever.... i never managed to tell the difference between the two12:46
GnarusLeoMind-Rot, did you fix it? SMB problem?12:47
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Enthusiast78Ok, next question... Is there a program I could install to access my Nokia phone through its USB cable?12:47
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GnarusLeoHi! I have used the gnome thingy to set up a folder share (smb), but when I try to connect it it just requires a password ... anyone know?12:49
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Enthusiast78GnarusLeo, Probably you need to specify a valid user/password.12:50
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Mind-Rotsorry for not replying before GnarusLeo , but no, i couldnt fix it.12:50
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aeolistGnarusLeo, you need to make smb users12:50
guest1141982739hi12:50
GnarusLeoaeolist, how do I do this?12:51
guest1141982739do it for me baby12:51
Enthusiast78Anyone connecting a Nokia phone via USB?12:51
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guest1141982739n12:51
aeolistguest1141982739, that's not much of an incentive is it?12:51
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KuDeTahow do i install the kernel headers without an inet connections12:51
KuDeTado they come on the dvd?12:51
guest1141982739jau genau12:52
Hobbseeguest1141982739: what were you wanting?12:52
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guest1141982739fuck you12:52
Mind-Rothe wants to get banned lol12:52
Snake__!coc12:52
ubotuhmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/12:52
Snake__:)12:53
Hobbseeyes, i thought that might happen...12:53
KuDeTainstall kernel headers without an internet onnection anyoneee?12:53
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aeolistKuDeTa, how exactly are you gonna do that?12:53
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Enthusiast78KuDeTa, just 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-386'.12:53
KuDeTai dont know..but i need them to get my internet working12:54
aeolistor better ye12:54
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aeolistt12:54
KuDeTaso i have no choice12:54
GnarusLeoaeolist, How do I make smb users and such?12:54
KuDeTaim on amd6412:55
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aeolistGnarusLeo, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server12:55
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KuDeTaso replace 386 with that?12:55
Mind-Rotyes i would like to find out also how to make samba users:)12:55
GnarusLeothanks12:55
Mind-Rotyay 10x12:55
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xsquaredhi, my friend was trying to install the ati drivers and it screwed up. Now it won't show anything on the screen (i think he turned on enable the kernel framebuffer thing. How can he reconfigure x on his computer with the live cd?12:56
Hobbseegrr12:56
xsquaredcan anyone help us?12:56
s-wxWhat about the exploit? How to protect ?12:56
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KuDeTaEnthusiast78 can i replace the 36 with amd64?12:56
KuDeTa*38612:56
ZoomCitieskudeta does your nick means war?12:57
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KuDeTacoup d'etat - reellion or coup yes12:57
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Hobbseegot it :D12:57
xsquaredcan anyone help?12:57
xsquared:-s12:57
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Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: he cant12:57
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xsquaredwhat can he do then?12:58
Kamping_Kaiserbut he can reboot in safe mode to reconfigure it12:58
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Enthusiast78KuDeTa, 'aptitude search linux-headers' will tell you the available options.12:58
xsquaredhow can he do that?12:58
xsquaredwhat does he have to do?12:58
Kamping_Kaiserreboot into rescue mode, then type `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`12:58
Mind-Rots-wx, in the server selection screen in xchat, click edit on the ubuntu server then add a /8001 after irc.freenode.net12:58
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Kamping_Kaiserwhen the computer boots grub counts down for 5~ seconds, hit escape while it does that, it shows a menu12:58
Kamping_Kaiserchose the 2nd option12:59
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xsquaredok12:59
xsquaredand is that it?12:59
Kamping_Kaisershould be12:59
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Kamping_Kaiserthen you have to step throught a guided process12:59
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inconhello01:00
lightstephow can i find cursor/pointer themes for gnome? i tried searching for x-cursor-theme and x-pointer-theme in synaptic, but it didn't find any packages01:00
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GnarusLeolightstep, www.gnome-look.org01:01
GnarusLeolightstep, or "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"01:02
defrysklightstep, sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes01:02
Enthusiast78Can I edit the 'kernel automagic list' in /boot/grub/menu.lst?01:02
lightstepthanks defrysk and GnarusLeo01:02
defrysklightstep, sudo apt-get install gcursor for easy cursor management01:03
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defryskcursor theme management01:03
NabikiHow do I create a symlink under ubuntu? link -s and symlink -s are not apparently functional. ^^;;01:03
Enthusiast78Nabiki, What happens?01:03
defryskNabiki, ln -sf01:03
lightstepNabiki, ln -s01:03
NabikiThanks01:04
Nabikibingo!01:04
Nabikidefrysk: Thanks.01:04
defryskcommandline rules bigtime ;)01:05
GnarusLeoterminal owns :)01:05
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Enthusiast78Is there a package that adds extra wallpapers to Gnome?01:07
MojoRisonhello01:07
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GnarusLeoIm trying to install the fglrx drivers .. so I did. But when I start gnome the screen just flickers alot, and you can barely see anything ... I have a WXGA HP Pavilion with ATI card ... anyone know?01:07
lightstepumm, which repositories contain gnome-art and xcursor-themes?01:07
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GnarusLeoEnthusiast78, "apt-get install gnome-art"01:07
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NabikiI have a stupid question: Where is the sources file for apt? :P01:07
Enthusiast78GnarusLeo, Thanks! Also... Where do I put wallpapers I manually download?01:08
Enthusiast78Nabiki, /etc/apt/sources.list01:08
Mind-Rot/etc/apt/sources/list01:08
defrysk!info xcursorthemes01:08
GnarusLeoEnthusiast78, anywhere you like ..01:08
NabikiThanks.01:08
Nabiki:P I made a local copy of the i386 archive that I want to point too. ^^ hehe01:08
defrysk!info xcursort-hemes01:08
Enthusiast78GnarusLeo, Ok, but suppose I'd like them to be automatically available to all users?01:08
defrysk!info xcursor-themes01:08
ubotuxcursor-themes: (Base X cursor themes), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 441 kB, Installed size: 3780 kB01:08
lightstep!info xcrsor-themes01:08
defrysklightstep, its in universe01:09
lightstepthanks01:09
GnarusLeoEnthusiast78, then find a suitable place i /usr/share ... ie: /usr/share/backgrounds01:09
defrysk!info gnome-art01:09
ubotugnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB01:09
defryskgnome-art also in universe01:09
Enthusiast78GnarusLeo, Ok.01:10
xsquaredKamping_Kaiser, it didn't work for him01:10
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Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: "didnt work"?01:10
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat didnt work?01:10
NabikiHmmm...  :P   It doesn't seem to like my source line.01:10
xsquaredhe tried the recovery mode01:11
xsquaredapparently it died too01:11
Enthusiast78Nabiki, What does it look like?01:11
GnarusLeoIm trying to install the fglrx drivers .. so I did. But when I start gnome the screen just flickers alot, and you can barely see anything ... I have a WXGA HP Pavilion with ATI card ... anyone know?01:11
Nabikideb /c/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse01:11
heyjoe2could someone help me with commands to safely and manually load usb devices? please? im really worried about losing data and getting this right01:11
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MojoRisonhello, i'm having problems getting a good ftp client....i tried to "add applications" gftp but it couldnt be found......any help?01:11
xsquaredKamping_Kaiser, what should he do?01:11
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heyjoe2or if someone could help me get ubuntu to do this automatically itd be even better?01:11
xsquaredcan he copy back the backup config files for X ?01:12
GnarusLeoMojoRison, gftp is a resporrity01:12
xsquaredwhere are they stored?01:12
GnarusLeoin* even :)01:12
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Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: he can use the X config for the live cd - i have done that bdfore01:12
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xsquaredi thought you said that didn't work01:12
NabikiAlso, is it safe to read a lot from NTFS, or is it just bad to write to it often? :P01:13
Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: did i? sorry, i was meaning it's easier using rescue mode :$01:13
GnarusLeoNabiki, hehe .. you can read all you like :)01:13
heyjoe2could someone help me with commands to safely and manually load usb devices? please? im really worried about losing data and getting this right01:14
xsquaredbut wont the live cd only work on the xserver on the live cd?01:14
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Solatishello, i have a question01:14
xsquaredit won't make changes to the system... will it?01:14
MojoRisonthanks GnarusLeo01:14
NabikiOk.  ^^ /c is my "C:" drive :P But that was probably obviouse.   Did the sources line I posted look ok?01:14
Solatisi just installed ubuntu on my amd64 system... and well, X loads and all... but i cannot start any shell01:14
Solatisthey just don't load01:14
SolatisGnome doesn't fully boot01:14
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Solatisneither does KDE01:14
Solatisbut fluxbox/openbox do01:14
Solatisand when i try to start a shell there01:14
Solatisit just doesn't happen01:14
Solatisfirefox et all work fine01:15
SolatisOOo too01:15
Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: what he can do is mount his ubuntu filesystem into the live cd, then copy the live cd Xconfig file onto his filesystem over the existsing X config01:15
Kamping_Kaiser!enter01:15
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!01:15
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Solatisanyone has /any/ idea what might be causing this ?01:15
Solatisi've tried both breezy and dapper, both have the same problem01:15
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Mannyhi :)01:15
xsquaredKamping_Kaiser, where is the X config file?01:15
Kamping_Kaiserxsquared: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (capital X then 11)01:16
Solatisother distributions (i've tried gentoo) do work fine, so it is not my system i think01:16
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Solatisoh i just found out, xterm /does/ work tho... but when starting gnome-panel or gnome-terminal from xterm, nothing displays at all... no output no nothing01:19
Solatiscould this be some amd64 problem ?01:19
defryskSolatis, used anything like automatix ?01:19
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NabikiI figured it out. :)01:19
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GTXIs there a new humon theme out I hear?01:19
defryskGTX, in dapper yes01:20
Solatisdefrysk: i have no idea what that is, so no i don't think so01:20
defryskSolatis, good01:20
thegladiatoris it possible to adjust the margin size of nautilus window ? at the moment I havea window theme called Black which has a thick border01:20
Jhairthegladiator: AFAIK that is theme-dependant, no configurable, but I can be wrong01:21
defryskthegladiator, contact the maker of that theme01:21
thegladiatorJhair, I have been told the same , but I thought it cud be configurable someway as in KDE01:21
thegladiatordefrysk, okay01:21
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heyjoe2how do i get libmp3lame.so ? can anyone help me. i tried downloading the lame-3.96.1.tar.gz but i cant find what audacity needs01:22
Solatisbut this is really weird... i mean, when starting gnome-terminal, i see a window being loaded, a black contents (where normally a shell would appear), but nothing appears, it just stays black...01:22
defryskheyjoe2, sudo apt-get install lame01:22
defryskshould do it01:22
NabikiWhat is a good program to configure the network with at the command line?01:22
heyjoe2defrysk: it says i already have it, which i do, cos i downloaded it from synaptic, but audacity keeps  asking for the  libmp3lame.so01:23
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defryskheyjoe2, try lame-extras liblame-dev liblame001:24
heyjoe2defrysk: do i have to type anything before that01:25
heyjoe2sudo or anything?01:25
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defrysksudo apt-get install  lame-extras liblame-dev liblame001:25
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eXistenZthe mozilla mplayer plugin didn't work for ff 1.5 here, is there any other plugin?01:26
heyjoe2defrysk: do i have to type anything before lame-extras liblame-dev liblame001:27
GTXdefrysk, got a screenshot of the new one in dapper?01:27
heyjoe2woops sorry01:27
defryskheyjoe2,  sudo apt-get install  lame-extras liblame-dev liblame001:27
defryskGTX, one sec01:27
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jlinden_hi! could someone tell me how to get started with postfix? I just need to connect to my isp's mail server and send mail...01:29
heyjoe2defrysk: audacity is still asking me for it01:29
heyjoe2also i get an error msg when i start audacity01:29
heyjoe2could that have something to do with it01:29
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heyjoe2defrysk: It says: There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio01:30
defryskGTX, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/human.png01:30
defryskheyjoe2, not sure how to fix that :(01:31
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visik7how can I change the size and font of gtk1 apps ?01:31
heyjoe2defrysk: cheers anyway. anyone else able to help me01:31
jlinden_or does anyone know any good tutorial on sendmail... i just need to be able to send mail from my workstation..01:31
Seveasdefrysk, funky colors 01:31
CarinArrew01:31
CarinArr;)01:31
BlueEagleHas any one else noticed an enormous increace in scanning on port 3450?01:31
defryskSeveas, a bit to loud for my linking ;)01:31
GTXdefrysk, looks weird :S. did you upgrade from breezy or fresh install?01:31
brennervisik7: you can't afaik.  i hate the look of gtk1 apps too.01:31
visik7brenner: I CAN'T !??!!?01:32
Seveasdefrysk, yeah, but those are not the Human colors01:32
Seveasthat's orange01:32
defryskGTX, frsh install from a feb4 iso01:32
visik7jlinden_: u don't need sendmail to send mail from your workstation (to be honest u don't need sendmail at all)01:32
defryskSeveas, its the standard hubuntu theme in dapper now01:32
defrysk-h01:32
heyjoe2defrysk: in that case, know any apps that will convert from wma to mp3 other than audacity01:32
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GTXmorning Seveas :)01:32
Seveasdefrysk, no it's not 01:32
jlinden_visik7, :well its actually my homework to use some mta and send mail through my isp's mail server...01:33
defryskSeveas, what then ?01:33
Seveasthe red and black are definitely not part of it01:33
draduljlinden_, you don't need a full flesged MTA to send mail from anywhere, what do you want to do exactly?01:33
visik7jlinden_: use qmail or postfix01:33
Seveasdefrysk, orange and brown01:33
defryskSeveas, ask around and find out ;)01:33
Seveasdefrysk, I'm using it myself01:33
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Seveasmaybe you need to logout/login01:33
defryskheyjoe2, lame -h goo_sound.wav mp3_sound.mp301:34
brennervisik7: like i said, not afaik01:34
heyjoe2Could not find "goo_sound.wav"01:34
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defrysk!pastebin01:34
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)01:34
visik7brenner: maybe I've found something01:35
NabikiI keep recieving an error message in dpkg:    dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependty <= 4' failed.01:35
draduljlinden_, you may use a null-mailer. There are many of them. I happen to like esmtp. Other like msmtp (which works best with mutt).01:35
heyjoe2defrysk: did u want me to use pastebin?01:35
BlueEagle!info castor01:36
jlinden_dradul, hmm ok thanks ill google some info on those01:36
brennervisik7: do tell01:36
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defryskheyjoe2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/995201:37
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defryskheyjoe2, copy and name that file wma2mp3.pl01:38
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jlinden_damn how do i send priv messages here? :)01:38
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heyjoe2defrysk: ok01:38
heyjoe2how do i name it01:38
draduljlinden_, I posted this small how-to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13239801:38
defryskheyjoe2, READ!!01:38
visik7brenner: gtk-theme-switch01:38
defryskgeez01:38
visik7brenner: it handle also fonts01:38
visik7but doesn't seems to work01:39
heyjoe2defrysk: im sorry, i dont quite understand01:39
defrysk<defrysk> heyjoe2, copy and name that file wma2mp3.pl01:39
jlinden_dradul, oh cool thanks!01:39
defryskwhat would be the name then ????01:39
brennervisik7: what app in particular is irking you?01:39
BlueEagleWhy is there no #Ubuntu-security? :)01:39
heyjoe2defrysk: which file01:39
visik7brenner: dvdrip01:39
defryskfrom pastebin01:40
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heyjoe2defrysk: how do i save it. where?01:40
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visik7brenner: it's so big that I can't see all dialog in one 1024x768 monitor01:40
heyjoe2oh i get it01:40
heyjoe2in pastebin01:40
heyjoe2?01:40
defryskheyjoe2, nm01:40
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brennervisik7: that's pretty bad.  i've never used it myself01:41
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joefso3hello01:41
brennervisik7: do you know about the alt+left-drag trick?01:41
heyjoe2defrysk: http://pastebin.com/59429501:41
joefso3How does xgl work ?01:41
visik7brenner: yes I know but it sucks anyway01:41
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brenneryeah.  hopefully the next version will be gtk2 then01:42
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heyjoe2defrysk: ok. does anyone else know what applications would be good to convert wav to mp3 other than audacity01:43
heyjoe2woops not meant to be to defrysk01:43
crimsungst-launch-0.8 or gst-launch-0.1001:43
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__rfkillhaterhi01:44
crimsunor mpg321 / mpg123-oss-i48601:44
__rfkillhaterhow can o turn OFF the god damn rf kill switch ubuntu suddenly decides to turn on?01:44
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__rfkillhaterevery random reboot it turns of the rf kill switcg01:44
__rfkillhaterand its really annoying'01:44
__rfkillhatercan anyone please tell me what to echo to what procfile?'01:45
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__rfkillhaterhi?01:46
brennerdumb question: what's an rf kill switch?01:46
__rfkillhatersome dumb shit that makes your wifi card not work01:46
__rfkillhaterubuntu is the ONLY os that ever has turned it off for me without me knowing'01:47
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__rfkillhatertheres some poc file i can echo to01:47
__rfkillhaterbut nobody seems to want to answer01:47
__rfkillhaterprocfile even01:47
visik7brenner: what program that u use is in gtk1 ?01:48
brennervisik7: xmms01:48
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__rfkillhaterbleh time to change os then i guess01:49
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__rfkillhatercant get no work done without wifi01:49
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bobyfixeri hate you01:50
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brenner__rfkillhater: have you tried the forum?01:50
__rfkillhaterdont waste yourb hate01:50
__rfkillhaterbrenner yes01:50
pinkisntwellanybody know how can I record stuff in ubuntu? neither audacity or sound recorder works01:50
crimsunpinkisntwell: what are you recording with?01:50
pinkisntwellwith my microphone01:50
bobyfixeri hate pinkisntwell01:51
crimsunbobyfixer: go troll elsewhere01:51
Jhairignore bobyfixer01:51
Jhairups01:51
crimsunpinkisntwell: have you selected the mic for recording (toggled it with the spacebar in alsamixer/F4 and unmuted it 'm')?01:51
pinkisntwellaudacity has the known problem which won't let it record and sound recorder crashes01:51
bobyfixeri hate peeps01:52
pinkisntwelli know my mic is working because I use skype daily01:52
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bobyfixeri hate pinkisntwell01:52
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__rfkillhaterubuntu forums never has what im looking for, atleast not using the search features01:52
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olebodvarhello?01:53
IdleOnehello01:53
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brenner__rfkillhater: what about the mailing list?01:53
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crimsunpinkisntwell: what is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio source set to?01:54
pinkisntwellALSA01:54
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crimsunpinkisntwell: does setting it to esd or oss resolve that issue?01:54
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pinkisntwelllet me see01:55
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brenner__rfkillhater: i wouldn't give up so easily though.  it may be just that the wireless gurus in here aren't active atm01:55
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pinkisntwellwell, maybe it's a problem with sound recorder, it crashes when I try to stop the recording01:56
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p3jk0:D ubuntu is sooo nice :)) i like it !01:57
IdleOnep3jk0>  glad to hear :)01:57
crimsunpinkisntwell: you should be able to test System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio source> esd/oss [Test] 01:57
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p3jk0:)01:57
pinkisntwelltest works for esd/oss, crashes for alsa, sound recorder crashes with all of them01:57
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crimsunpinkisntwell: set it to oss, then use audacity to record something01:58
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pinkisntwellhmmm i uninstalled audacity, should i install it again?01:59
crimsunpinkisntwell: yes01:59
ardchoilleAny way to get nautilus to auto-open gedit regarding this: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7454/screenshot6pc.jpg01:59
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pinkisntwellok01:59
brennerhow does one upgrade a single package via apt-get?01:59
p3jk0may i ask... ? is on linux any icq client 100% compatibile with ICQ :o) ?01:59
crimsunbrenner: sudo apt-get install foo02:00
brennercheers02:00
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pinkisntwellaudacity gives the known error when starting up02:00
crimsunp3jk0: gaim, licq, centericq, ...02:00
crimsunpinkisntwell: turn off esd first, then02:00
IdleOnecrimsun>  cant one apt-get update packagename ? never tried it though02:00
crimsunpinkisntwell: System> Preferences> Sound> disable sound server startup02:00
crimsunpinkisntwell: and make sure you close all other open sound apps02:01
pinkisntwellyes but I do need esd in general... should I definitely disable it to get sound recording working?02:01
p3jk0crimsun: cant transfer files :(02:01
crimsunpinkisntwell: generally, no, but for audacity, yes02:01
crimsunpinkisntwell: have you tried arecord directly from the cli?02:01
pinkisntwellno02:02
pinkisntwelldoes it need to kill esd?02:02
IdleOneardchoille>  in terminal type sudo geit /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
IdleOneardchoille>  in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
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ardchoilleIdleOne: yes, I know about that way, but since I already had nautilus open and not the term..02:03
pinkisntwellwhy does sound recorder crash on me though? is it a known bug?02:03
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brenneranother easy one hopefully: how do we know which packages are upgradeable using apt-get besides comparing package versions with the currently installed version?02:03
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joelw23how do i add more screen resolutions after an install??02:03
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brennerubotu: tell joelw23 about fixres02:04
crimsunpinkisntwell: there are lots of possible reasons; have you checked Malone?02:04
crimsunpinkisntwell: and no, you shouldn't be forced to stop esd02:04
joelw23thanks02:04
pinkisntwelli think I have submitted the sound recorder thing as a bug, let me check02:04
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heyjoe2could someone please recommend an application that lets me convert wav to mp302:05
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heyjoe2other than audacity02:05
mattafixhow do u download stuff on ubuntu02:05
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ardchoillemattafix: gwget, wget, d4x, firefox.. there are lots of ways02:06
crimsunheyjoe2: I gave you others' names02:06
IdleOne!tell mattafix about repos02:06
NabikiIs there a decent location to learn how to configure the network for the system? :)02:06
IdleOne!tell mattafix about apt02:06
crimsunheyjoe2: gst-launch-0.8 (hoary/breezy), gst-launch-0.10 (dapper), mpg321 / mpg123-oss-i486, etc.02:06
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p3jk0:D you must have it busy here with so many questions.. hmm... how can i change y a z?02:07
ardchoillemattafix: sorry, I may have misunderstood you.. if you meant how do you download and install new apps, then ubotu sent you the proper info02:07
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tushkeehey guys, d'you know how to change my networking setting from DHCP to STATIC IP via the terminal? what's the command?02:08
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DUMAiSOIs it safe to run dist-upgrade on dapper flight4?02:08
LordSavageyes02:09
DUMAiSOok02:09
LordSavagebut it will remove openoffice02:09
LordSavageu have to reinstall it later02:09
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heyjoe2crimsun: sorry i didnt see u recommend others02:09
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heyjoe2crimsun: im on breezy, what should i type in terminal exactly?02:09
crimsunheyjoe2: man gst-launch-0.802:09
pinkisntwellhmmm there are plenty of bugs for sound recorder on malone02:09
crimsunheyjoe2: scroll to the bottom, look at the examples02:09
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Ulathi have x server problem with LG LE50 Express notebook02:09
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Ulathi can not run gdm02:10
Ulathor startx02:10
brennerUlath: what happens?02:10
psychomancerj\#ubuntu.de02:10
gwafhi, i'm running dapper and my network never comes up at boot. I have to do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart02:10
eXistenZwhen will firefox 1.5 be added to the repos. ?02:10
jlinden_could someone give me brief instructions on how to put email in nullmain queue and then send it...?02:10
eXistenZthe breezy repos02:10
ardchoilleeXistenZ: it won't02:10
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dobrevhow to make router ???02:11
pinkisntwellI think this is the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/10540 apparently it's been fixed, I don't know02:11
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eXistenZardchoille, why?02:11
gwafany ideas on how to solve this?02:11
Ulathbrenner: gdm gives no screen founds error but i checked by hand all of the xorg.conf file everthinh is correct and screen definitions are valid02:11
jlinden_oops i mean nullmail, not nullmain02:11
ardchoilleeXistenZ: requires too much work02:11
heyjoe2crimsun: im a real beginner to linux and i dont know what that means02:11
crimsunpinkisntwell: perhaps you can test with flight 5 tomorrow02:11
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heyjoe2crimsun: is there an app i can get off synaptic or something?02:11
crimsunheyjoe2: Applications> Accessories> Terminal02:11
p3anybody know how can i change encoding??? :)02:11
crimsunheyjoe2: in terminal, type: man gst-launch-0.802:11
pinkisntwellI'll give arecord a shot02:11
tushkeehey guys, d'you know how to change my networking setting from DHCP to STATIC IP via the terminal? what's the command? Anyone please? thanks02:11
eXistenZardchoille, is it recommended to install it?02:11
brennerjust read slashdot re: gnupg security hole... is gnupg 1.4.1-1ubuntu1 in the repos equivalent to 1.4.2.2?02:12
cyphaseanyone know where i can get a deb of Network Manager 0.60?02:12
crimsunheyjoe2: scroll down to the bottom of the man page with shift+G (or just use the down arrow)02:12
pinkisntwellis arecord reliable?02:12
crimsunbrenner: no02:12
Hobbseebrenner: no it isnt, it needs updating02:12
heyjoe2crimsun: i know how to type it in the terminal, i just dont know what all that stuff means about the pipeline and stuff02:12
brennerUlath: what driver are you using?02:12
crimsunpinkisntwell: it's the very basic ALSA recording tool. Yes.02:12
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crimsunheyjoe2: just follow the examples02:12
pinkisntwellcrimsun: okay, thanks for all the help02:12
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brennercrimsun, Hobbsee: but the fix will be made avaiable va the repos?02:12
ardchoilleeXistenZ: you can install it from source, but if you do I suggest you back up ~/.mozilla/firefox because 1.5 will over-write it02:12
brenners/va/via02:13
ardchoilleeXistenZ: I learned that the hard way02:13
crimsunbrenner: it will be in {breezy,hoary,warty}-security in a matter of hours, yes02:13
Hobbseebrenner: like all security updates, i would assume so, yes02:13
brennercrimsun:, Hobbsee: cheers.02:13
heyjoe2crimsun: i dont get it. http://pastebin.com/594326 are these the examples02:13
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Ulathbrenner: default driver comes with badger02:14
crimsunheyjoe2: that's the _top_ (or _beginning_) of the man page. You need to scroll to the _bottom_ (or _end_)02:14
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_FelixHello02:14
brennerUlath: you could try reconfigging xorg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:14
_FelixHow can I login as 'root' ? I want to add some headers to GCC... :-/02:14
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kerang2khello02:14
heyjoe2crimsun: thats a lotta text02:14
kerang2kgood evening to all members.02:15
kerang2k:)02:15
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Ulathbrenner: i tried it but it still gives the same error02:15
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Ulathbrenner: now i am trying mandriva 200602:15
ardchoille_Felix: use sudo, the root account is disabled02:15
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_Felixhow can I copy with Terminal?02:15
dobrevdoes anyone can help me to make one comp router for the other02:15
brennerUlath: can you pastebin the failing log: /var/log/Xorg.0.log please02:15
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ardchoille_Felix:  cp /path/to/source /path/to/target02:16
heyjoe2crimsun: so whenever i want to conver i do  gst-launch filesrc location=music.wav ! wavparse ! mpegaudio  !02:16
heyjoe2       filesink location=music.mp302:16
_Felixoh02:16
_Felixcp, thanks02:16
HymnToLifedobrev> is he "router" comp win or ubuntu ?02:16
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heyjoe2crimsun: where do i change it to imput the name of the song and where it comes from?02:16
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ardchoille_Felix: If it's a folder full of files and you want to copy all files and subfolders in the folder:  cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/target02:16
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heyjoe2crimsun: is there a synaptic application for it. id feel more comforatble using an app02:17
Ulathbrenner: no eth exists :(02:17
brennereth?02:17
_Felixk,k02:17
kerang2kis it difficult to setup DNS server under ubuntu?  any guide to it?02:17
dobrevubuntu --> win02:17
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_Felixthere's man for that... :), just didnt know how it goes... thx02:17
kerang2kthanks felix02:18
crimsunheyjoe2: what are you trying to do?02:18
heyjoe2crimsun: trying to convert a wav file into an mp302:18
dobrevHymnToLif> ubuntu --> win02:18
heyjoe2for the purposes of my mp3player. and audacity doesnt work02:18
YagisanG'day all. Can anyone suggest a simple tv recording app ? I don't need something like mythtv, just something simple that I can tune in the channel, hit record and have it dump uncompressed video and audio to disk.02:19
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crimsunYagisan: tvtime02:19
Yagisancrimsun: that records ?02:19
crimsun(keep in mind I don't have a tv tuner card)02:19
_Felixwhy do you thank me?02:19
killianin your opinion, whicg filesystem is faster: ext3 or reiserfs?02:19
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ubuntuhello02:19
_Felixhello02:19
dobrevHymnToLife> ubuntu router for  win & ubuntu machine02:20
NabikiIs there a way to get a root terminal in ubuntu?02:20
ubuntui am online?02:20
_Felixhehe02:20
_Felixno02:20
NabikiWithout rebooting that is. hehe02:20
Yagisankillian: depends on what it is used for02:20
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HymnToLifedobrev > you have a wiki page which explains it all02:20
crimsunYagisan: dvr, vdr02:20
_Felixuse sudo... that's what they told me... :/02:20
brennerubuntu: apparently :)02:20
ubuntui am trying ubuntu on live cd02:20
IdleOne!tell Nabiki about root02:20
milamberhello there, someone can tell me how to add mc02:20
heyjoe2crimsun: im trying to convert a wav file into mp3. for the purposes of my mp3 player. and audacity doesnt work02:20
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brennerubuntu: welcome02:21
HymnToLifedobrev> here you go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%2902:21
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crimsunYagisan: and of course, mencoder02:21
brennermilamber: enable universe repo, then install it via any apt tool02:21
Yagisancrimsun: just installed tvtime. It doesn't have a record function (but seems very nice for viewing)02:21
kerang2kwow great DNS setting under ubuntu is known as BIND902:21
crimsunYagisan: (but no, tvtime doesn't record)02:21
kerang2kso i found de article and guide02:21
kerang2kgreat great and thanks to google02:21
kerang2k:)02:21
HymnToLifeheyjoe2> don't forget lame to creare mp302:21
Inf3cteDkoi shte mi pomogne za ubuntu02:21
_Felixubuntu: do you know ubuntu? I know felixes... :D02:21
Inf3cteDkoi shte mi pomogne za ubuntu02:21
ubuntuwhy cannot the last letter of every line be display?02:22
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crimsunYagisan: in fact, tvtime's FAQ recommends mencoder02:22
milamberenable universe repo trough /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:22
Inf3cteDznachi napravih si virtualno pc zaredeno s linux ubuntu ami kak da vijda neshtata ot windowsa02:22
Inf3cteDhelp02:22
brennermilamber: yes, that's one method02:22
brennerubotu: tell milamber about repos02:22
IdleOne!tell milamber  about repos02:22
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milamberthnx brenner02:22
crimsunheyjoe2: something like: gst-launch filesrc location=music.wav ! wavparse ! audioconvert ! lame ! filesink location=music.mp302:22
defryskheyjoe2, sudo apt-get install soundkonverter (its a kde app but hey )02:23
crimsun!info gstreamer0.8-lame02:23
ubotugstreamer0.8-lame: (LAME encoder plugin for GStreamer), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 116 kB02:23
Yagisancrimsun: I should smack myself for not thinking of mencoder earlier - I'm supposed to be a motumedia guy. time to apt-get install coffee02:23
crimsunheyjoe2: you need to install gstreamer0.8-lame from multiverse, of course02:23
killianwhen installing kubuntu, i formatted the / as reiserfs02:23
crimsunYagisan: :)02:23
Inf3cteDhelp02:23
Inf3cteDhelp02:23
Inf3cteDhelp02:23
Inf3cteDhelp02:23
Inf3cteDhelp02:23
crimsunInf3cteD: shush02:23
killiani wonder if there's any speed gain by formatting / as ext3, or maybe ext202:23
heyjoe2crimsun: ive already installed lame02:24
crimsunheyjoe2: not lame. gstreamer0.8-lame.02:24
heyjoe2ok02:24
Yagisankillian: big files ? small files ? what sort of system is it ?02:24
heyjoe2crimsum: how do i install that-synaptic?02:24
killianu know02:24
killianaverage home user02:24
_Felixwell, bye02:24
IdleOnekillian>  you can try fluxbox, openbox, xfce4 to speed up your pc a some02:24
brennerInf3cteD: what's your native language?02:24
crimsunheyjoe2: yes, enable the multiverse repo first02:24
_Felixi'm going to try cp02:24
heyjoe2crimsun:i think ive done that02:25
killiani think reiserfs is slowing down my pc02:25
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killianif i format / as ext2, i bet there'll be big performance gain02:25
heyjoe2ive got g streamer02:25
IdleOnekillian>  you can give it a try02:25
heyjoe2crimsun: that one02:25
brennerer, wouldn't ext2 be older ad therefore slower than ext3? (i obviously have no idea)02:26
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Yagisankillian: to be honest, I don't know what you use your box for. ext3 works ok for general purpose02:26
Chousukebrenner: ext3 is ext2 with a journal.02:26
killiani use my box for entertainment02:27
killiansurf the net, watch a movie02:27
Chousukebrenner: in most cases, ext3 is superior to ext2.02:27
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killiannothing too demanding, i guess02:27
heyjoe2crimsun: im download soundconverter from synaptic. it didnt work in terminal. thanks for ure help02:27
killianso my question is: switching from reiserfs to ext2 or ext3 will make my linux box run faster?02:27
milamberthnx it worked, is there btw an easy way to install .deb packagesd ? ive used  dpkg -install command  bu\th i think there has to be an grapical interface ? or is it also with synaptic possible ( like for instance the nero package02:27
brennerChousuke: so why would he go for an un-journaled system?  wouldn't that mean fragmentation?02:27
Chousukebrenner: un-journaled system is a bit faster.02:28
brenneri see02:28
killianext2 is unjournalled?02:28
Chousukebut in his case, the benefits are not worth what he would lose.02:28
Yagisankillian: ext3 should be fine. reserfs is slow for deletes, but very good for small files.02:28
lightstephello. i installed ubuntu on a disk with windows, and i want to access the NTFS and FAT partitions i already have. the gnome Disks Manager identifies them, and if i create directories for them, it will mont them too, but with the wrong permissions (500 and 755 instread of 555 and 777). how can i fix it?02:28
Chousukekillian: yes.02:28
Chousukekillian: as I said before, ext3 is ext2 with a journal02:29
brennermilamber: you should use the official repos whenver possible.02:29
killianaha02:29
Chousukekillian: you can mount ext3 without the journal and it's ext202:29
killianso ext2 is the fastest02:29
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Chousukekillian: the performance gain is negligible.02:29
IdleOnekillian>  I suspect its your WM try using xfce4 and see if that suits your needs02:29
brennerlightstep: sys >help > starter guide > windows partitions02:30
killianpossibly02:30
milamber@brenner i'll try always to use the official repos, i didnd expect that there was a nero package in ubuntu02:30
tucozHello, I wonder if it's safe to remove older kernels from my ubuntu install. The list in grub is starting to be quite long nowadays02:30
Chousukekillian: especially because you sacrifice reliability.02:30
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Chousuketucoz: should be.02:30
Chousuketucoz: just don't remove the running kernel02:30
tucozChousuke, :)02:30
ardchoillelol02:30
brennermilamber: no. for some apps, there won't be any packages for them.  but now you've enabled universe )you may want to enable multiverse too), you should have a lot more packages to choose from.02:30
Chousukeit would work till the machine is rebooted, but it wouldn't boot up anymore. :)02:30
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brennermilamber: you may want to try k3b.  it's a very popular app for cd stuff02:31
Yagisankillian: I would not say ext2 is fastest. That would be jfs, xfs or ext3 depending on the system02:31
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milamber@brenner, k, wil look for that also, its quit different then debian, installing ubunu, there r some differences like the root acces etc etc.02:32
EnialleOLAAAA02:32
IdleOnekillian>  reformat if you like but I would still try a diff Wm before reinstalling ..besides if xfce4 doesnt suit your needs then you will reformat anyway so might as well give it a try02:32
killianif i try using ext2, there is a much bigger possibility of losing data, right?02:32
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dyegocmghghfg02:33
Yagisankillian: yes, if your system is not shut down properly eg blackout02:33
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killianor i reset it02:33
killianit happens02:33
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brennermilamber: how are you liking it so far?02:33
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killianwith journalled systems, if i reset the pc, nothing happens02:33
killianwith ext2, it does a fsck02:34
killianand finds lost files02:34
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lightstepbrenner, thank you for the pointer (one thing, though, it didn't come with my system, only on the internet)02:34
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brennerlightstep: ser, what didn't?02:35
brenners/ser/er02:35
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Chousukekillian: you should keep ext3 in any case.02:35
lightstepthe starter guide (i have 6.04)02:35
felixhi, I need some help with ATI and Xgl/compiz, I got the fglrx-driver to work, but when I start the Xgl-server, gdm screen works, but after that I get ugly graphic artefacts and the mouse still works. The xorg-log says something about a missing /dev/dri/card*, but this exists....02:35
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brennerlightstep: ah. in that case. consult this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:36
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heyjoe2ARGHHHH why isnt soundconverter working02:36
IdleOnefelix>  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help02:36
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felixok, thanks02:36
lightstepyes, i got many liks on a google search02:36
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kimowill ubuntu make my ipw2200 WLAN card work automagically ? (I am considering installing it)02:36
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milamber@brenner, quite good, it is easyer to install, the desktop works right away, just need to do some fine tuning like set to 70 Hz instead of 75Hz ( display) for a desktop i do like it, my server is still running on regular deb,  i'm go to play with ubuntu for a while, who nows maybe i'll try a server with it, . buth server setting is easy for my with debian beacause i dont like a graphical server so its maybe faster..02:36
Anubismake menuconfig NOT WORK!!!!02:36
crimsunkimo: I'm using Ubuntu with ipw2195ABG just fine02:36
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crimsunAnubis: hoary, breezy, or dapper?02:37
Anubiswhy i need download stupid pack02:37
Anubisbreezy02:37
brennerlightstep: that shows you how to edit /etc/fstab to get the options right (see the Mounting partitions manuallysection)02:37
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kimocrimsun: so it worked out of the box, or did u have to hack around ?02:37
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joelw23 if my pc has a mp3 share of  \\server\mymusic how do i connect to in in ubuntu02:37
kimojoelw23: smb:/ in yast02:38
kimojoelw23: smb:/ in konqueror sorry02:38
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crimsunAnubis: make sure you have build-essential, gcc-3.4, and libncurses5-dev installed02:38
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joelw23i'm trying to connect to it in mythtv02:38
crimsunkimo: out of the box from Hoary onward02:38
Anubiscrimsun02:38
rd06hi users of Ubuntu !!!02:39
brennermilamber: OOI, why lower the rate?  i thought the less flicker the better?02:39
milamber@brenner main reason that i choose for ubuntu now is that my girlfriend had a hard time with debian, and sinse there is no windows in the house anymore, id need an easy to use easy to update linux dis, .. the update of ubuntu is great so far :D02:39
IdleOneheya rd0602:39
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heyjoe2you know what i like about windows-programs tend to work first time every time. arghh02:39
sixtymhzhow is debian harder than ubuntu??02:40
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milamber@brenner lower the rate of the screen has to do with the experiments i do with skystar 2 card, and a modular dvb it wont work on 75Hz02:40
brennerheyjoe2: i wonder why.02:40
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brennermilamber: ah.  well anyway, good to hear you're liking it02:41
Chousukeheyjoe2: you mean they work the first time after installation, cease to work the next time, and after you re-install, they work agains?02:41
Chousuke-s02:41
tushkeehaha, can you telle me guys why PASTE function in Ubuntu is still malfunctinoal?02:41
killianany ideas why lm_sensors doesnt work?02:41
heyjoe2brenner: yes i know i know nothing about this but its still taken me hours to get the simplest thing done02:41
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milamber@sixtymhz the update tool for instance is easyar to use for someone ( autoupdate )02:41
kerang2kfound guide on how to configure samba as domain controller as well..  dis is really cool02:41
Chousuketushkee: malfunctional?02:41
Chousuketushkee: paint some text and middle-click :P02:41
KuDeTaheya would anybody mind taking a minute to work out an ionstalltion of new driver with me..i have to recompile my new kernel to get online, but the istructions arn't ubuntu specific.. here they are http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX02:41
rambo3my windows programs usaly work 30 days ,then i have to pay money to contiuen using them02:41
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KuDeTai need to get the kernel source02:42
brennerhehe02:42
Nidahhi02:42
sixtymhzOh.  Maybe its because my face is always in the terminal and I really don't notice much about the gui.02:42
KuDeTai tried installing kernel-package02:42
Nidahlooking for help02:42
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KuDeTabut doesn't seem to help02:42
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tushkeeChousuke : open 2 message windows on GAIM....type something on the text box of the first window. copy it. then close it. Now, try to paste that text to the second window. IF YOU CAN. LOL.02:42
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Chousuketushkee: ah, that.02:42
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Nidahi need help with grub and real playerinstall02:43
milamber@sixtymhz 've don that also for a while, buth my girlfriend didnt like lynx as a brwoser :d02:43
heyjoe2for the basic user, windows seems to let u play mp3s, use usbs and convert file formats without this much headache. plus amarok is buggy! argh02:43
tushkeeChousuke: is that GAIM specific?02:43
visik7I've follow this guid http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107135 but gtk1 apps still so ugly02:43
Chousuketushkee: no.02:43
Chousuketushkee: that's because X sucks02:43
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IdleOne!tell Nidah  about realplayer02:43
heyjoe2!realplayer02:43
ubotuI guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:43
tushkeeChousuke: i see. man, that's like basic function in an OS.02:43
scavhow can i add cups printers for just one user02:43
Chousuketushkee: not really.02:43
MasterChi02:43
AngryElfanyone have ibook experience----what's the best way to dual-boot ubuntu/osx on an ibook?02:43
Chousuketushkee: it's a basic functionality of the GUI02:43
Nidahok i downloaded the real player10 bin file02:44
Chousuketushkee: but X sucks anyway02:44
kimoI will be installing dapper beta-4, are there any show stopper bugs, or should I go ahead ?02:44
KuDeTaplz help?02:44
tushkeeChousuke: okay, forgive my use of OS. but yeah, GUI.02:44
Chousuketushkee: I think they're trying to come up with some clipboard-server solution for that.02:44
KuDeTai just need to know how to get the kernel souce propperly ready?02:44
Nidahand tried using commands suggested in real.com to install it but terminal window says it cant find a bin file02:44
HymnToLifeAngryElf> just the same way as dual booting Windows I guess02:44
tushkeeChousuke: not Ubuntu specific too right? just X in general?02:44
brennerNidah: what command did you use?02:45
Chousuketushkee: yeah.02:45
HymnToLifeNidah> why not just get a .deb and install it ?02:45
Nidahok lemme see02:45
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rambo3just  run it and use simlink to /usr/sbin/02:45
tushkeeChousuke: thx for the insights ;)02:45
AngryElfwindows requires some tricky configs......i wouldn't think osx would since it's unix-like02:45
Nidahchmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin02:46
AngryElfwindows to have the mbr in the first x sectors or something......i forgot exactly what it is02:46
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KuDeTalol02:46
rambo3mini grub02:46
KuDeTaplzzzz help?02:46
Nidahchmod: cannot access `RealPlayer10GOLD.bin': No such file or directory02:46
ChousukeAngryElf: iBook is PPC.02:46
Sp4rKyanyone does know how read a .flv file ?02:46
brennerNidah: where did you save it?02:47
kimoanyone using sk98lin driver with ubuntu ? did u have to recompile the kernel!02:47
AngryElfi know.....i didn't think that had anything to do with it though02:47
rambo3Kudeta what do you mean?02:47
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ChousukeAngryElf: that means you will not be able to use many proprietary plugins in Ubuntu PPC, including flash and w32codecs.02:47
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ChousukeI don't know if Java for PPC linux exists.02:47
KuDeTarambo3: im try to do this http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX02:47
IdleOneKuDeTa> you will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto02:47
WindMillWhat'sup02:47
KuDeTai think i sould be doing the "within the kernel" part02:48
KuDeTai installed make02:48
ChousukeAngryElf: also, Wine will not work in Ubuntu PPC either.02:48
KuDeTakernel-package02:48
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rambo3heh 100 people cliking at the link02:48
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renewiphi, I've compiled my Firefox 1.5 by hand in Ubuntu 5.10. How to generate .DEB file now?02:48
IdleOne!ff1.502:48
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:48
IdleOnerenewip> ^02:48
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rambo3ok download kernel source that you need and put simlink to it in the same map  ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source* /usr/src/linux/02:49
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rambo3!recompile02:49
uboturambo3: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:49
rambo3!kernel-source02:49
uboturambo3: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:49
KuDeTa:(02:50
KuDeTaobutu u suck02:50
ChousukeKuDeTa: kernel sources are in linux-source02:50
brennerNidah: where did you save it?02:50
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KuDeTachousuke02:50
Hoxzerhas somebody here setup alsa for ts?02:50
KuDeTawhich one do i use..im on amd6402:50
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jlinden_how do i end message when im sending email with ssmtp from command line? :)02:50
Chousukehmm02:50
KuDeTaand i thought i need an ubuntu specific one?02:51
ChousukeKuDeTa: linux-source should install the correct sources.02:51
renewipI mean how to generate .DEB file package from source code ?02:51
Chousukerenewip: it's not easy.02:51
mikexwhy would totem have jerky sound but good video?02:51
Enthusiast78jlinden_, Did you try a dot (.) in a line by itself?02:51
IdleOnerenewip>  why do you want to do it the hard way?02:51
IdleOne!tell render  about ff1.502:51
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IdleOnefollow those instructions02:51
Chousukerenewip: though you can use checkinstall if you want a crude hack just to wrap it in a .deb02:51
jlinden_Enthusiast78, it worked! thanks02:52
Chousukerenewip: properly debianising the sources means you must go read some documentation02:52
KuDeTachousuke: so i do aptitue install linux-kernel? thats all thats necc?02:52
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KuDeTawill that untar it to /usr/src/?02:52
ChousukeKuDeTa: should get you the sources, yes.02:52
KuDeTaor do i need to do that myself02:53
Chousukein /usr/src/02:53
renewipChousuke: which docs? plz!02:53
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KuDeTaokk02:53
KuDeTabut u see i did that i think02:53
Chousukerenewip: Debian new maintainer's guide02:53
KuDeTabut part of the problem02:53
KuDeTawas that make wouldn't work02:53
Chousukerenewip: it's not easy.02:53
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KuDeTasaid it could not find the directory to build.. something to that affect02:53
Chousukerenewip: I doubt you'll succeed in packaging firefox if you've never done packaging before02:54
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renewipthanks in advance02:54
IdleOnerenewip>  try google " compil source how to "02:54
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mattafixthis ubuntu stuff is well crap02:54
Chousukerenewip: you should just install the pre-made packages.02:54
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IdleOnemattafix>  whats up?02:55
KuDeTachousuke.. this is the command i needed to use02:55
KuDeTa...make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`02:55
KuDeTabut it failed02:55
mattafixcan't download anythin or play videos02:55
IdleOnemattafix>  did you enable universe and multiverse?02:55
mattafixyea02:56
Chousukemattafix: do you mean you don't get internet connection?02:56
Chousukemattafix: how are you connected to the internet?02:56
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IdleOneDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)02:56
danboidis suspend (hibernate) support more reliable and compatible in the current dapper kernel?02:56
danboid(than in breezy)02:57
IdleOnedanboid>  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help02:57
LadyNikonmorning class02:57
IdleOnemorning02:57
mattafixno, when i downlaod somethin and i try to install it just goes to archive manager02:57
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nefidoioio02:58
IdleOnemattafix>  what are you trying to install?02:58
nefidoitaliani02:58
nefido?02:58
IdleOne!it02:58
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:58
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mattafixi tried real player, shockwave & java02:58
IdleOnemattafix>  wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:58
iGotNoTimeDoes anyone here use asterisk? Their channel is too busy answer noob questions about providers :(02:58
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mattafixalready tried that02:59
IdleOnemattafix>  that link tell you how to install all those02:59
IdleOnemattafix>  you getting errors? and what are they?03:00
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mattafixdo u know the extension for "executable"03:01
mikexlooking for a backup tool for ubuntu. any suggestions? and what to back up?03:01
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brennermattafix: that's not how it works.  you can name a file anything and still have it be ecevutable03:02
brennerexecutable rather03:02
rem_http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_rdiff_backup03:02
mattafixbut it says to  rename the file to the correct extension for "executable"03:03
brennermattafix: tell us the install problem and IdleOne will help you with them03:03
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Enthusiast78mikex, Do you want to backup your PC or do you need a networked-backup solution?03:03
IdleOnebrenner>  :P03:03
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brennerIdleOne: i love deferring to other people:)03:04
IdleOnemattafix>  we cant help if we dont know what it is you want to do and what errors your getting03:04
tucozHello, any ATI users around? I am trying to get 3d working on my ubuntu install, but I get an error message when running fglrxinfo:  ERROR: version mismatch - 2D module [8.23.7]  incompatible with OGL client module [8.21.7] .03:04
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IdleOne!ati03:05
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358903:05
tucozIdleOne, thanks. But I used those links when installing.03:05
IdleOnetucoz>  thats the full extent of my knowledge concerning ati sorry :/03:06
tucozI wonder if some old version of the fglrx-driver is remaining in my install03:06
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tucozIdleOne, no problem. Thanks anyway.03:06
IdleOnetucoz>  stick around there will be a few ati gurus around sooner or later03:06
tucozgreat :)03:07
IdleOnejust be patient and dont ask 500 times :)03:07
Enthusiast78tucoz, Do you mean it used to work before?03:07
tucozEnthusiast78, not after I updated to dapper.03:07
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IdleOnetucoz>  try #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper03:08
IdleOneor maybe Enthusiast78  can help03:08
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lightstephow can i change my hostname?03:08
tucozWith breezy I used to install the driver using the installer from ATI, but now I installed the packaged version of the driver03:08
IdleOnelightstep>  change it to what?03:08
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Enthusiast78tucoz, IdleOne, Not really. My best suggestion would be to try downgrading the package, but that could break something, so it's still no good advice at all. :o)03:09
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lightstepIdleOne, to some other unused hostname in my network03:09
IdleOnetucoz>  #ubuntu+1 is your best bet03:09
tucozok, I'll ask at that channel03:09
lightstepIdleOne, i want to fit to a naming convention03:09
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IdleOnelightstep>  that sounds difficult ..sorry I cant help03:10
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Kamping_Kaiserlightstep: you want to change your hostname?03:10
lightstepi wonder if just using hostname will work03:10
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IdleOnehave a good day everybody...remember Love your Ubuntu and Ubuntu will love you back03:10
lightstepKamping_Kaiser, yes03:11
Kamping_Kaiser"hostname" as hostname? probably not a good idea03:11
netfaceoi03:11
brennerIdleOne: awwww :)03:11
dylan_how do i downgrade my apps if they're not stable?03:11
Kamping_Kaiserlater IdleOne :)03:11
netfacealgum brasileiro?03:11
IdleOne!br03:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.03:11
lightstepi want to make it as if i types the correct name in the install process03:11
lightsteps/types/typed/03:11
heyjoe2is there a way i can safely unmount my usb device03:11
heyjoe2using the command line, it doesnt work when i use the click method03:12
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Kamping_Kaiserlightstep: to change the hostname you edi t "/etc/hostname" and "/etc/hosts"03:12
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Kamping_Kaiserand this is one time i do condone use of a root terminal.03:12
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jlinden_How do I print raw text data to ipp printer?? anyone?03:12
lightstepheyjoe2, try sudo umount /path/to/device03:12
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n3m3s1shttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CJPcEf87.html < can you help me plz03:13
heyjoe2thanks03:13
thenuken3m3s1s: maybe it will work some other time03:13
heyjoe2lightstep: so if its on the desktop i go sudo unmount /desktop/new volume03:14
jetscreamertry a different source03:14
n3m3s1sHmmM03:14
n3m3s1sCan you give me a "clean source" ?03:14
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jetscreamer!sources03:14
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:14
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brennerheyjoe2: no.  it'll always be /dev/something03:14
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n3m3s1s!easysource03:15
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:15
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brennerheyjoe2: type 'mount' to see what's mounted03:15
heyjoe2brenner: are you having a laugh03:15
vjHabibHello everybody03:15
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brennerheyjoe2: no.03:15
netfacepoxa, ninguem me ajuda no ubuntu-br03:15
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brennerand it's umount, not unmount03:16
vjHabibI having some troubles with glx on ATI radeon with fglrx does any one know how to fix this livre@multimidia:~$ glxgears03:16
vjHabibXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:16
vjHabibError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual03:16
vjHabib??03:16
heyjoe2brenner: sorry, can i pastebin u what i got03:16
brennerheyjoe2: pastebin away03:16
heyjoe2brenner: http://pastebin.com/59443203:16
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brennerheyjoe2: can you do a : cd /media/NEW VOLUME03:18
marlunDoes Debian also force you to use sudo by default?03:18
brennerheyjoe2: and see if that is the usb drive when you do an ls03:18
netfaceno codecs open divx and mp3, why?03:18
brennermarlun: not afaik.  tehy still stick with the root account03:18
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heyjoe2brenner: it says no such file or directory when i do the cd command03:18
brennerheyjoe2: what command did you use?03:19
marlunok, thanks03:19
heyjoe2cd /media/NEW VOLUME03:19
DiogoAny GRUB gurus around?!03:19
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brennernetface: ubuntu can't provide them out of the box legally.  see here to install them: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:19
rambo3 /j #grub03:19
brennerheyjoe2: it's probablhy the space.  type cd /media/NEW and then press tab03:20
jetscreamerDiogo: #grub03:20
Diogojetscreamer, Thanks! :o)03:20
p3hi plz - how co change encoding? it isnt nice when there is (invalid encoding) and i cant choose wallpaper from that folder :D and some webpages are too sick...03:20
n3m3s1sW: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu tre vrifies parce que la cl publique n'est pas disponible: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B303:20
n3m3s1sW: Vous pouvez lancer apt-get update pour corriger ces problmes.03:20
n3m3s1sWhat's wrong?03:20
jetscreamerrambo3: :p03:20
rambo3cd /media/NEW \VOLUME03:20
Diogojetscreamer, Hmmm... Even if my GRUB question is ubuntu-specific?!03:20
jetscreamern3m3s1s: it's just a key you didn't impoirt yet. you can ignore it till you find out how03:20
n3m3s1sor can i del it?03:21
jetscreamerDiogo: can't hurt to just ask in both channels03:21
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heyjoe2brenner: that seems to have done good03:21
jetscreamern3m3s1s: you can just comment out the new source03:21
jetscreamern3m3s1s: but like i said it's an ignorable error03:21
netfacebrenner, thanks03:21
jetscreamer!keys03:21
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer03:21
Diogojetscreamer, Here we go, then: I'd like to 'lock' my 'recovery mode' entries, but they are inside the AUTOMAGIC section and I wouldn't like to hurt automagic, so how do I proceed?03:21
jetscreamerdumbot03:21
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heyjoe2brenner: i think its opened newvolume03:22
n3m3s1sok03:22
brennerheyjoe2: ls shows the contents of the stick?03:22
jetscreamerDiogo: you could just copy the ones and put them below the magic line03:22
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jlinden_I cant enable 3d hardware acceleration when Im using xinerama for dual head, i have intel embedded graphics chip... anyone know any solution?03:22
heyjoe2brenner: yep the contents are correct03:22
Healothow do I patch an original tarball (tar.gz) with it03:22
brennerheyjoe2: then that's the one you want. to unmount: sudo umount /dev/sda503:23
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heyjoe2exactly as it is?03:23
Diogojetscreamer, Do you mean copying the line blocks of those sections and re-insert them below with the lock line included?03:23
bigfoot1i have an avi file. how can i record just the audio of that as an mp3?03:23
brennerheyjoe2: yep.  weird that you can't unmount via desktop though03:23
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Healotits gzipped diff file?03:23
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rambo3why dont you just unpack and aplay patch , repack03:24
jetscreamerDiogo: lock line? i mean copy , title to boot,  each section you want to preserve against automagic, and paste below ethe 'end debian automagic' or whatever it says in ubuntu03:24
heyjoe2brenner: it says device is busy, but im not using it for anything03:25
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heyjoe2brenner: that i can see03:25
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jetscreamerlsof heyjoe203:25
Nabiki:P I got a message saying03:26
heyjoe2whats lsof03:26
Nabiki:P I got a message saying SSL version 2 is disabled.03:26
jetscreamertype it03:26
joefso3HOW DO i GET XGL WORKING ON DEBIAN?03:26
jetscreamerLiStOpenFiles03:26
Diogojetscreamer, Ok, and then I add the 'lock' line right below the 'initrd' line, right? Will these new blocks overwrite the automagic ones?03:26
jetscreamerjoe_alf: /topic #debian03:26
jetscreamerDiogo: what lock line03:27
heyjoe2brenner: what do i do if it says its busy in terminal03:27
jetscreameryou don't need a lock line, just anything under where it says end debian magic won't be touched03:27
brennerjoefso3: ask #debian03:27
Diogojetscreamer, To have an entry locked in grub, I need the 'lock' line right below the 'initrd' line, afaik...03:27
Diogojetscreamer, I want them password-locked.03:27
joefso3brenner why?03:27
jetscreamerDiogo: ahhh03:27
Diogojetscreamer, :o)03:28
jetscreamerdobrev: apt-get install grub-doc, info grub03:28
brennerjoefso3: b/c this is an ubuntu channel03:28
henkHi can anyone help me set up my ati card (readon 9100) i tried to install the ati propiatary driver but it did not work for me. So i removed all the related stuff. reinstalled ristricted driver, kernel 2.6.12.15-18 and reset my xorg.conf to user 'fglrx' as a driver. However i now keep faling back to mesa and i cannot figure out why it is no longer working. Anyone that has experience with this?03:28
Diogojetscreamer, And I'd like it to be set as automagically-compliant as possible. ;o)03:28
joefso3brenner: I'm using ubuntu ?03:28
brennerjoefso3: i don't know. are you?03:28
brenner>_>03:28
joefso3brenner: why would I be here? haha03:28
jetscreamerDiogo: i never did passwd in grub. i thought you didn't want the automagic to touch it, like having a failsafe.03:28
elkbuntu!xgl03:28
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ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:28
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rambo3on ati you have to omit some Option "" and use Device Driver "ati"03:29
deviosthe kubuntu live cd couldn't auomatically set up sound on my Dell Optiplex GX240 - on-board sound.  anyone know how to fix?03:29
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brennerjoefso3: you asked a question relating directly to debian.  therefore, it's better to ask the folk at @debian03:29
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Diogojetscreamer, Oh, no. Well, you just need the "password" line set and then add lines with 'lock' right below 'initrd'. I just didn't want to hurt the automagic system.03:29
brennerheyjoe2: ask jetscreamer.  he seems to have an idea.  i usually just reboot.03:29
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heyjoe2brenner: http://pastebin.com/594461 thats the error message i get03:30
jetscreamerDiogo: it will be overwritten unless you add it to the auto stuff above, or cp one below the line03:30
henkrambo3 and elkbuntu if that was for me... i'm not trying to set up glx (it definately does not work with my ati card,) im trying to revert back to the old situation03:30
heyjoe2jetscreamer: any idea on how to help me. this is the error message i get when i try to click unmount http://pastebin.com/59446103:30
elkbuntuhenk, no it was for heyjoe203:30
henkelkbuntu ok sorry03:30
jetscreamerheyjoe2: i just thought you could run lsof and see what's trying to acces it03:30
Diogojetscreamer, Yeah, I was wondering if the auto stuff would solve this problem...03:30
rambo3henk is X working+03:31
heyjoe2jetscreamer: sorry im a newbie, how do i run lsof03:31
jetscreamerjsut type it03:31
heyjoe2elkbuntu: what was for me03:31
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jetscreamermaybe add sudo03:31
henkrambo3 yes x works. the open gl driver just falls back to mesa instead of fglrx03:31
elkbuntuheyjoe2, the information ubotu said about xgl03:31
Healotoh, now i get how the hell to patch source package...03:31
elkbuntuubotu, tell heyjoe2 about xgl03:32
jetscreamer/media/NEW\040VOLUME <--03:32
brennerelkbuntu: you must be tired. :) he's having unmounting issues.  nothing to do with xgl03:32
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jetscreamer/ not \03:32
nataliehello, I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to help me with a problem.03:32
elkbuntuoh, wrong joe03:32
jetscreamerthe other guy wanted the xgl03:32
brennerya03:32
elkbuntuubotu, tell joefso3 about xgl03:33
brennernatalie: ask away03:33
heyjoe2jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/59446603:33
elkbuntuthe 'joe' and number parts confused me, and yes, i'm tired03:33
henkrambo3 it seems by the way i cannot insmod 'drm' should i be able to ?03:33
natalieI recently loaded a copy of 5.10 on my PC and it freezes whenever I get to the login screen.  I can't even hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a terminal03:33
brennernatalie: live cd or install?03:34
natalieInstall03:34
rambo3i dont think that you need drm for your kernel03:34
Diogonatalie, What if you boot in 'recovery mode'?03:35
jetscreamerfrank... uh heyjoe2 ... cd / and umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME03:35
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natalieI can boot i to recovery mode, but I'm fairly new to linux, so I'm not really sure what to do.03:35
Nabikibrb.   Gotta test something.03:35
heyjoe2jetscreamer: i did that03:35
heyjoe2now what03:35
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Diogonatalie, Then it could be something related to X. Do you guys think natalie should 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server'?03:36
jetscreamerheyjoe2: type the command here exactly as you typed it03:36
heyjoe2cd / and umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME03:36
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brennerDiogo: she should have got a bluescreen.  but it's worth a shot03:36
heyjoe2wrong?03:37
jetscreamerheyjoe2: you typed and?03:37
heyjoe2yeah i thought that was strange03:37
heyjoe2two separate commands huh03:37
jetscreamercd / && umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME03:37
jetscreamertry that03:37
jetscreamerone line there03:37
brennerheyjoe2: the first one isn't actually needed.03:37
jetscreameractually since he's in the directory, yeah03:38
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Diogonatalie, brenner, Sorry it's 'xserver-xorg' the name of the package.03:38
GauIs there a way to repair a HD using an Ubuntu LiveCD?03:38
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DiogoGau, What kind of 'repair' do you mean?03:38
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GauWell, apparently the HD has an invalid node structure and the catalog b-tree is damaged03:39
natalieDiogo: Will there be anything in particular that I will need to do after that, or will it fix itself?  (Sorry I'm really new)03:39
heyjoe2ok http://pastebin.com/59448103:39
milambersomeone kwnows, i try to mount my hdc7 partition, mounting works fine, buth the browser says u do not have anough permissiopns ?. looked it in fstab everything seems fine03:39
vjHabibdoes anyone know how to put dri in ati fglrx?03:39
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brennervjHabib: how'd you install the driver?03:40
z6bthow would i burn an audio cd with cdrecord (i dont have and cant have x)03:40
heyjoe2jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/59448103:40
Diogonatalie, I really don't know, but I'm hoping it will fix itself.03:40
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jetscreamerheyjoe2: add sudo.03:40
natalieDiogo, Brenner, Thanks for the help I will give it a try.03:40
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jetscreamernext time, sudo lsof | grep -i /mnt/new btw03:41
brennernatalie: if that doesn't work.  search the forum using "freeze" and "login " as keywords.  it might not be a display issue03:41
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natalieOkay, I'll do that03:41
z6btdoes anyone know?03:41
heyjoe2jetscreamer: no error msg03:41
vjHabibbrenner: I follow this instruction of proprietary driver03:41
jetscreamerheyjoe2: type mount03:42
brennervjHabib: which instructions?03:42
heyjoe2jetscreamer: i think it worked03:42
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z6btso i take it no one knows?03:42
heyjoe2jetscreamer: but i typed mount anyway03:42
vjHabibbrenner: i create a .deb folowing this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.23.7_drivers_in_Breezy_Badger03:42
jetscreamerz6bt: is it mounted heyjoe2 ?03:42
z6btwhat?03:43
vjHabibbrenner: this is in #ati03:43
jetscreameroops03:43
z6btwhat would i be mounting03:43
jetscreamerz6bt: hang on03:43
z6btk03:43
jetscreameris it mounted heyjoe2 ?03:43
heyjoe2jetscreamer: i typed mount and it didnt mount03:43
jetscreamerheyjoe2: you mean it isn't mounted03:43
Drac[Server] I'm shutting the server down temporarily. I'll be back.03:43
jetscreamer?03:44
brennervjHabib: ok.  i think they're identical to the ones you should be using: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:44
jetscreamerheyjoe2: typing mount should just tell you what is mounted03:44
brennervjHabib: did you do the whole thing?03:44
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/59448603:44
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: i think it worked03:44
DiogoAnybody ever tried to 'dist-upgrade' a Debian system to Ubuntu?03:45
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jetscreamerz6bt: http://www.linuxdocs.org/sln/cdcommands/03:45
vjHabibbrenner: is but i'm with another kernel03:45
brennerz6bt: try #linuxhelp since it's a generic question03:45
JhairDiogo: that would not work03:45
jetscreamerheyjoe2: wtg \o/03:45
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NabikiOk, I am up and going under linux.  :P  I keep getting weird messages from dpkg though. :)03:45
brennervjHabib: i don't get you03:45
heyjoe2jetscreamer: i think it works, cos i tried it again03:45
DiogoJhair, Hmmm... How sad I am... :'(03:46
jetscreamerheyjoe2: you can't be in the directory and try to umount it at the same time :)03:46
NabikiE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:46
vjHabibbrenner: I have a kernel 2.6.13 compiled by my self03:46
techmydeckim havin a problem with ubuntu. when i try to use the system configurations at gnome, they say that my root pass is wrong. anyone could help me?03:46
heyjoe2jetscreamer: whenever i type umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME03:46
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heyjoe2it disappears from the desktop03:46
jetscreamerright03:46
elkbuntuDiogo, although based on debian, ubuntu isnt quite the same. what would be the point if it was ;)03:46
brennerjetscreamer: whoops. that was my fault i guess03:46
heyjoe2jetscreamer: good, no03:47
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jetscreamerheyjoe2: it's not in the fstab03:47
matt__!w32codecs03:47
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:47
Jhairtechmydeck: probably you are being asked for YOUR password (sudo) and not the root password03:47
Diogoelkbuntu, I know, I know. I'd just like to migrate a system to Ubuntu. Is there another way of doing this?03:47
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: ok, so what do i do?03:47
jetscreamerheyjoe2: and there is a setting to show unmounted volumes on the desktop somewhere also... i don't know much about automount though i don't use it03:47
techmydeckoh ok !!!!!!!!! thx03:48
jetscreamerheyjoe2: probably put your command in fstab... i'd rething that new volume naming scheme if it was me though03:48
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brennervjHabib: shouldn't matter i don't think03:48
jetscreamers/rething/rethink/03:48
heyjoe2jetscreamer: simply typing umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME wont cut it to unmount03:48
jetscreamerheyjoe2: some other name, maybe w/o spaces03:48
heyjoe2ok03:48
jetscreamerheyjoe2: what?03:48
heyjoe2just by renaming the file03:48
jetscreamersimply typing umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME wont cut it to unmount ?03:48
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elkbuntuDiogo, my guess would be: backup important info (eg, home, www ...) install ubuntu, put important info into relevent places03:49
heyjoe2sorry03:49
jetscreamerno you need a good line for it in fstab.. you don't put the actual mount command03:49
heyjoe2jetscreamer: i dont know what a good line or fstab is03:49
jetscreamermake it similar to the others03:49
jetscreamerheyjoe2: less /etc/fstab to see an example03:49
Diogoelkbuntu, Yeah, do it the traditional way. :o) No problem! Just wanted to know if there was an almost-automagic way to do it.03:49
jetscreamer!fstab03:50
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.03:50
jetscreamerheyjoe2: ^^03:50
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: how do i rename new volume03:50
elkbuntuDiogo, google around, you never know what people have managed to do, but it seems nobody in here knows of that way yet03:50
matt__is it still possible to get the w32 codecs off the servers??03:50
heyjoe2i tried to rightclick and properties but that didnt work03:50
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: same with rightclick rename03:50
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jetscreamermv NEW\ VOLUME someothername03:51
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Diogoelkbuntu, Ok, thanks!03:51
jetscreamerheyjoe2: did you create the dir with sudo? then you'll need to use sudo to mv it03:51
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matt__is it still possible to get the w32 codecs off the servers??03:51
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heyjoe2it says now cannot stat new volume03:52
heyjoe2jetscreamer: no such file or directory03:52
jetscreamerheyjoe2: either be in the /media directory, or supply full path ... /media/NEW\ VOLUME03:52
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chmod775is there any VPN software for ubuntu ?03:53
Jhairchmod775: yes03:53
jindlove your nick03:53
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jindchmod77503:53
chmod775How do I download it03:53
jetscreamerheyjoe2: so sudo mv /media/NEW\ VOLUME /media/whatever03:53
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Diogochmod775, I think 'aptitude search vpn' will give you a few choices.03:54
heyjoe2it says bash so command not found03:54
heyjoe2i type03:54
drjohndoes security really depend on the OS or the user or admin setting it up?  im a bit confused with tihs03:54
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jetscreamerheyjoe2: just from the word sudo03:55
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jetscreamersudo blahblahblah03:55
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dobrevHymnToLife> Thank you03:55
jetscreamer sudo mv /media/NEW\ VOLUME /media/whatever03:55
HymnToLifedid you manage it ?03:55
unreahow do i use dualscreen with ubuntu?03:55
jetscreamerunrea: configure xorg.conf properly03:55
heyjoe2jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/59450103:56
jacki'm a newby can i ask something?03:56
unreajetscreamer, how do i do that? :D03:56
HymnToLifejack > of course03:56
Jhairjack: you already did03:56
HymnToLifelol03:56
ndlovumy hard drive is killing me with slow disk reads... any suggestions of good hard drive testing programs in linux?03:56
jackhe he thnx03:56
drjohndoes security really depend on the OS or the user or admin setting it up?  im a bit confused with that question03:56
jackso i have installed ubuntu 5.10 right now03:56
jackhow do i install plugins like flash player?03:57
NabikiIs there a command to test that all my dependencies are in place accross the board? :)03:57
HymnToLife!tell jack about flash03:57
heyjoe2#easyubuntu might be good03:57
unreajetscreamer, I tried, but then it couldn't find my screen, so i had to change it back :/03:57
Healotdrjohn, just remember, software is created by human, if human is dumb, then software is dumb too03:57
chmod775I am looking for a vpn client software which I can use it to connect  remote03:57
chmod775?03:57
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Jhairchmod775: you want to connect to a vpn server?03:57
chmod775Jhair, yes03:57
Healotremember "people","people" and "people"03:57
Jhairchmod775: a windows-based or linux-based vpn server?03:58
heyjoe2jetscreamer: make any sense out of the pastebin03:58
chmod775Maybe anything ?03:58
marcin`hello #ubuntu03:58
Jhairchmod775: for a windows-based you can use the pptp package and a patched kernel AFAIK.03:58
jetscreamerunrea: i can help you later but i have to get ready for work soon... nvidia.com has a list/readme if it's nvidia, if it's not nvidia i can't help you anyway03:58
HymnToLife!tell marcin` about hello03:58
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Jhairchmod775: I use that to connect to the vpn of my company which is a windows server03:58
chmod775ok03:58
jetscreamerheyjoe2: sudo lsof | grep -i /media/new03:58
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chmod775SO how do I install it ?03:58
marcin`could someone tell me how could I to record some internet radio to mp3/ogg file?03:59
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unreajetscreamer, it's not an nvidia, thanks for the help anyway :)03:59
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Jhairchmod775: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml03:59
heyjoe2jetscreamer: yep03:59
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: try the mv command now?03:59
jetscreamerheyjoe2: did the lsof | grep command not return anything?04:00
heyjoe2jetscreamer: nothing04:00
milambernfts disks r not readable with ubuntu ?04:00
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jacki have another question plz04:00
jetscreamerheyjoe2: ok 'should' work04:00
jetscreamer!ntfs04:00
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:00
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: should do a lot of things04:01
heyjoe2but isnt04:01
heyjoe2busy again04:01
jetscreamersudo lsof | grep -i media04:02
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milamberthnx04:02
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594520 does that mean it is a openoffice file-writer perhaps thats holding it back, cos i just closed it04:03
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LuisBGwhat's the easiest way to install an airport wifi card in ubuntu? it's for a powerbook04:04
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bfieldndiswrapper?04:04
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LuisBGisn't it going to be in the install cd of dapper?04:05
LuisBGthere is a free source driver... just wondered the ubuntu way to install it04:05
bfieldnot to sure of that... altho, I can't wait for dapper04:05
jan_hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?04:06
jan_with lspci, to ndiswrapper04:06
Healotndiswrapper works with Windows XP driver...04:06
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LuisBGbfield, me neither, tried to dist-upgrade the other day and messed up all my apt :S04:06
aleph0hello everyone.04:06
Healotif it is from the source, the same way any GNU/Linux would do, LuisBG04:06
bfieldyou know04:07
aleph0I'm having problems with system load. my server hangs and a lot of time is spent in I/O wait. I can't seem to track it... any pointers?04:07
LuisBGHealot, isn't the module system in ubuntu a little different, I mean it has to work with the kernel packages04:07
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bfieldthe easist way to do it Luis, is to get ahold of the dapper sources.list, and then just apt-get upgrade.04:07
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LuisBGaleph0, what does top say?04:07
heyjoe2jetscreamer: did that pastebin shed any light04:07
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jan_hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?04:07
Healotno... it is the same on all Linux, at least on most Linux04:07
inversanwhat so men04:07
aleph0something like this:04:07
aleph0Cpu(s): 30.7% us,  7.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 28.2% id, 33.4% wa,  0.1% hi,  0.2% si04:07
eth0hi, could anyone tell me, is it best to learn bash or c programming first?04:08
aleph0but wait time can peak at over 90%04:08
bfieldeth0, did you look for howto's?04:08
LuisBGeth0, I think C04:08
bfieldhmm04:08
thelambdefinately bash first04:08
bfieldI agree with Luis there.04:08
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eth0bfield: couldn't find anything on google04:08
bfieldhmm04:08
LuisBGHealot, i'm adapted to having the sources in /usr/src... any pointer to a howto ;) ?04:08
heyjoe2jetscreamer: do you think its a good idea to take my computer to a computer store to get them to fix all my usb issues?04:09
bfieldlemme see if I can find some (eth0)04:09
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eth0bfield: thanks :)04:09
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nailaola04:09
bfieldeth0, here's a good link for C programming04:09
bfieldhttp://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/04:09
nailahello04:09
aleph0is there something like 'top' which tells me exactly which process is causing the I/O wait ?04:10
LuisBGbfield, I tried to upgrade to dapper and weird massive dependency problems mid-way04:10
bfieldluis, well I guess I'll just wait the month or two till they release it.04:10
bfieldususally is best that way04:10
eth0bfield: im not looking for a text on c, i aleady have a couple of books04:10
Healotoh... you need to install the kernel source... just like all GNU/Linux04:10
LuisBGbfield, LOL isn't it 6.4?04:10
bfieldluis, yea thats what I heard04:10
eth0bfield: im wondering whether to startr with c or bash04:10
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LuisBGeth0, top has several keys to view stuff... like m for memory I think, look at the man to see if there is one for I/O04:11
jan_hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?04:11
bfieldeth0, I'd say bash then, its bit easier04:11
CarinArreth0, it depends what you want to do04:11
bfieldeth0, have you looked into realbasic?04:11
eth0what's realbasic04:11
heyjoe2im having problems with two usb devices in general. do people think if i take it into a computer store theyd be able to fix it for a small fee? cos its quite complicated getting ppl to help me remotely.04:11
aleph0LuisBG: it shows I/O but not on a pre process level.04:11
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LuisBGaleph0, mmmmm then I'm clueless04:12
aleph0me too :(04:12
bfieldeth0, its the basic programming language, but with an easy use IDE, very similar to Visual Basic04:12
CarinArrack04:12
LuisBGaleph0, try killing processes until you spot the problem04:12
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eth0bfield: well i've already started with c04:12
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aleph0I had something like this before. only then it was the disk.04:12
CarinArreth0, i'd stick with c04:12
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CarinArrif you know c it's easy to learn other things04:12
aleph0my system is fastest after I killed everything :)04:12
bfieldeth0, well then stick with it, it's all prefrence I guess04:12
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jetscreamerheyjoe2: i think you'd be wasting your money personally. you may not beable to renamethe mount point due to automount stuff, not sure... try just using a different mountpoint. heyjoe2 , gtg work now:/ g'luck... (but hey it seems to function... what happens if you take it out of the omputer and put it back in.. does it automount?)04:13
eth0alright, thanks :)04:13
CarinArrc has a slightly steep learning curve but it's worth it04:13
bfieldnp04:13
heyjoe2jetscreamer: it automounts. the other problem i have is a thumbdrive that wont mount04:13
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heyjoe2and the mac os x computers at uni wont recognize my new volume mp3 player04:13
eth0carin: yeah04:13
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poet_hello guys, how to compile modules for ubuntu?  for example: pl230304:14
chmod775how do I update to new gnome ?04:14
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chmod775gnome 2.14 ?04:14
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coachhi@all04:14
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jan_how do i find the id to a pci-wlan card?04:14
coachi've got a prob with my ubuntu04:14
aleph0eth0: bash is not a good place to start IMHO. and neither is c. to start learning programming first take a look at something like python or something. it's quick to learn, easier thatn c and it's teach you all the basic concepts without having to worry too much about pointers and stuff04:14
jetscreamerheyjoe2: the thumbdrive is similar, but uses a different /dev device.... you can do it!04:14
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heyjoe2jetscreamer: any tips on how to get started?04:15
jan_how do i find the device-id to a pci-wlan card?04:15
chmod775try iwconfig04:15
coachi cant mount my cdrom, though ts not wrecked...what shall i do?04:15
chmod775u mean wireless card right ?04:15
bfieldjan, either that or lspci04:15
tritiumeth0: python _is_ a great langauge to learn with.  In fact, the package (and book) diveintopython is installed by default on ubuntu.  That's a good one to learn from.04:15
transgresswhat file do i need to edit to get iwlist to use wlan0 instead of eth2 as my wireless card because as far as i know it should still be wlan0 after upgrading to breezy right?04:15
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eth0aleph0: yeah, i've heard  that b4 that it's not the best one to start with, but are pointers really that complicated?04:16
jan_bfield, how does it look like in lspci? 0000:02:7.104:16
eth0aldren: i've not used them that much04:17
eth0er04:17
eth0aleph0: i've not used them that much04:17
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p0mppuhi everyone04:17
bfieldjan, yes, thats right04:17
coachi want to install wow with cedega, but when i insert the 4th cd, i can't mount it...04:17
VladDracanyone here ever got breezy installation to work with 3ware 9550 raid controllers?04:17
p0mppuis there a way to install OpenOffice.org 2 in the Dapper dev version?04:17
p0mpputhe whole thing04:17
aleph0eth0: they're not impossible to learn, but it's be more fun if you start with something that you can get going with straight away... with c it'l take you longer to have fun ;-)04:17
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p0mppuit seems I can install else but not the Writer, or if Writer, then it removes the others04:17
tritiump0mppu: it gets installed by default04:17
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p0mpputritium: not on my pc04:18
tritiump0mppu: /j #ubuntu+104:18
gzzzthi, wheres the modprobe.conf in ubuntu? i cant find it04:18
p0mppuwhat's that?04:18
LuisBGhow stable is dapper flight 4 ?04:18
tritiump0mppu: the channel for dapper questions04:18
p0mppuok04:18
p0mpputhanks04:18
crimsunLuisBG: soon to be deprecated by Flight 504:18
p0mppuand sorry :)04:18
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crimsungzzzt: there shouldn't be one, else /etc/modprobe.d/ is skipped04:19
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eth0aleph0: yeah, good point04:19
bfieldlater everyone04:19
gzzztcrimsun, i just installed a new sounddriver, and it tells me to modify that file... how do I handle this now?04:19
eth0aleph0: but are pointers tricky?04:19
eth0aleph0: oh sorry04:20
USER016623oh, i go04:20
eth0aleph0: i misread what u last said04:20
crimsungzzzt: don't touch /etc/modprobe.conf . Which driver did you install?04:20
eth0aleph0: but are pointers tricky?  <---- ignore that04:20
USER016623but, need we speack english, because we are italian04:20
netfaceATI 9800PRO@XT compatible ubuntu?04:20
aleph0eth0 they're not tricky, they're annoying ;-)04:20
gzzztcrimsun, nvidia nforce sounddrivers04:20
eth0aleph0: yeah i don't totaly understand the point of them so far04:21
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USER016623we have just 5 minutes04:21
crimsungzzzt: those are oss-based, not alsa. You won't be able to use alsa applications with them.04:21
USER016623Morgante merda!04:21
crimsungzzzt: I highly recommend you use snd-intel8x0 instead, which Ubuntu does by default.04:21
USER016623adesso avremmo proprio bisogno di droga04:21
coachtritium, hello?04:21
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tritiumyes, coach?04:21
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gzzztcrimsun, i want to use hardware mixing, since i want to play and hear music or use teamspeak at the same time..,. so i guess using the nvidia drivers is my only chance aint it?04:22
coachi wrote a pm to you, would u look at it, plz?04:22
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henkis there a tool that can figure out my messy documents and files ? i have many backups of partial backups of documents etc. The drives are a mess, i'm looking for some tool that can help me clean is up (identufy duplicate dirs/files etc)04:22
tritiumcoach: I didn't get it.  You've probably not registered/identified04:22
netfaceEnemy territory @ 9800 pro @ubuntu?04:22
coachoh, sry^^04:22
Jhairhenk: tree04:22
eth0aleph0: except with bash, learning all the unix commands and kinda makes things a lot easier tho, no? cuz the shell does all the work for you?04:23
crimsungzzzt: no, what you want to be able to use is pcm multiplexing, not hardware mixing (that's a recording/monitoring feature in pro audio cards)04:23
coachtritium, i wanted to install wow with cedega, but the 4th cd doesn't want to get mounted-.-04:23
transgresshey what's the wiki page for setting up the nvidia driver?04:23
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suppamanhi04:23
nijanHello, I've been unable to install any program, I've tried to run apt-get update, to set up the keys, but nothing solves the problem. I've been receiving alway the same "impossible to install  package x" message.04:23
tritium!tell transgress about nvidia04:23
crimsungzzzt: while nvsound.ko will give you that, you will give up any sort of audio work done in alsa04:23
USER016623Dreita camminava lentamente lungo il porto. fu il vento di maggio che le scompigli i capelli a farla ritornare nel passato ormai scordato di amarezza e delusione...era di nuovo lei, dopo essere stata soltanto incertezza ed inganno..ma, forse, non era stato bello credere di essere cambiata?04:23
tritium!it04:23
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:23
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tritiumcoach: bad CD?04:24
gzzztcrimsun, would that be a bad thing? since my only wish is to hear music, use teamspeak and play games04:24
crimsungzzzt: if you use nvsound.ko, make sure you set everything to use oss instead of alsa.04:24
coachno04:24
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eth0aleph0: or am i looking for a book on linux, rather than bash?04:24
henkJhair hmm tree |wc -l gives me 87897 lines.... so that is not something i'd call a big help :)04:24
crimsungzzzt: no, it's not a "bad" thing per se. We just won't field your support questions, since we can't access the source code.04:24
tritiumcoach: why do you suspect it won't mount?04:24
USER016623senti, io sto chattando col mio amico immaginario che  seduto al mio fianco e non conosce l'inglese, quindi, rispettami. grazie  gi una giornata di merda04:24
tritiumUSER016623: stop please!04:24
gzzztcrimsun, exactly that is my problem: i want to disable alsa but cant, since im not supposed to do it via modprobe.conf04:24
netfaceneed help, please!!! Radeon 9800 pro@xt driver install ubuntu?04:25
crimsungzzzt: no, that's simple. Just blacklist the 'snd' module04:25
coachtritium, i tried, but i only got "no media found"04:25
crimsungzzzt: there's no need at all to touch /etc/modprobe.conf04:25
gzzztcrimsun, whats simple for is maybe hard for me. how do i do that?04:25
crimsungzzzt: echo snd | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist04:25
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USER016623Tirami su il viso, che da troppo tempo ormai lascia riposare gli occhi sull'asfalto nero luccicante di sperma vivo.04:26
eth0aleph0?04:26
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gzzztcrimsun, and this will do what?04:26
crimsunmike with the cluebat04:26
crimsungzzzt: prevent alsa drivers from loading on next boot04:26
USER016623crosta, hai corrotto la bellezze del mio culo!04:26
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tritium!tell USER016623 about it04:27
gzzztcrimsun, if i do that, i can easily undo it by removing it from that list, aye?04:27
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crimsungzzzt: certainly.04:27
coachtritium, any idea why it says so?04:27
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gzzztcrimsun, i appreciate your help, thanks a lot04:27
tritiumcoach: no, not really...04:27
crimsungzzzt: np04:27
poet_hello guys, how to compile modules for ubuntu?  for example: pl230304:27
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coachhmpf....04:28
crimsunpoet_: on breezy or dapper?04:28
mumbleswee04:28
coachk, cya@all04:28
mumblesubuntu works on my laptop04:28
mumblesnow ive got to get the wireless card working :(04:28
poet_crimsun: breezy04:28
crimsunpoet_: install build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:28
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crimsunpoet_: take your source and compile it using CC=gcc-3.4 against linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:29
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sridhow do I use emacs-gtk2 with anti-aliased font path in ubuntu?04:30
vax_hi room04:30
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DrakonikThis is the channel for the Ubuntu linux distro, right?04:31
rysiek|plyup04:31
DrakonikJust checking.04:32
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matt__does anyone know where i can get the w32codecs from???04:32
HymnToLife!plf04:32
ubotuI heard plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc04:32
p0mppumatt__: mplayer site04:32
p0mppumplayerhq.hu ?04:32
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matt__i downloaded them ages ago via apt-get but ic ant now??04:33
DrakonikI just downloaded ubuntu 5.10 with BitTorrent, and I burned the .iso onto a CD I have. What do I do now? I've already tried booting from the CD, which is what I think I was supposed to do.04:33
rysiek|planybody knwos why the /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh script doesn't get called upon boot-up, when usplash is runnung, although it definetely should?04:33
HymnToLifeDrakonik> it is04:33
matt__04:34
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GnarusLeoActivating windows in VMware seems to be an impossible task ... anyone got any clues?04:34
tristanmikeDrakonik, out of curiosity, did you accedentilly burn the iso file as a single file? or when you look at the disc are there many files?04:34
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: yep, use QEMU04:34
rysiek|pl:)04:34
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, QEMU? whats that? Another VM?04:34
Drakoniktristanmike: One sec, let me look.04:34
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GnarusLeorysiek|pl, and is it easier to activate it with that?04:35
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: yes, it's "another VM", but a GPLed one, too04:35
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rysiek|plGnarusLeo: I haen't used it, actually, but I've seen it at work04:35
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, now _that_ i like, though I have bought vmware04:35
smhi all.. what's a good way to schedule recording from audio streams nightly ?04:35
nickrudrysiek|pl, the first line of console-screen exits if usplash is running04:35
Jhairdoes QEMU support Windows XP?04:35
Drakoniktristanmike: It's not even seeing the CD.04:36
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: and I have never seen VMWare on Linux work04:36
JhairI mean can I run Windows XP on it?04:36
gzzztcrimsun, at boot it still shows two alsa cards, and "initializing alsa". and even more the nforce2 audio is still described as "alsa mixer". what should i do else?04:36
tristanmikeDrakonik, :? well, that's not right :P04:36
rambo3VMWare worked fine for me04:36
rysiek|pljhair: I suppose you can. I have seen a Windows98SE installation (!) on QEMU on Debian on... PowerPC!!04:36
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, well, vmware is up and running and worsk great (!). Its actually impressive fast ... but the win activating thing doesnt work (couse it cant recognize my key with the Virtual hardware) ... think QEMU should have the same problem04:36
rysiek|plI mean: Woindows98SE INSTALATOR04:37
Drakoniktristanmike: My burner has never worked quite right. At least, I think so, because I"ve rarely, if ever, used it before.04:37
rambo3but use allways gpl software if there is substitute.04:37
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rysiek|plGnarusLeo: I have no idea, to be honest. I would just advise you to try it :)04:37
tristanmikeDrakonik, do you normally have a problem reading disks?04:37
DrakonikNOpe.04:37
DrakonikAssuming they're un-damaged, of course.04:37
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, thanks for the advice then :) Ill give it a go04:37
tristanmikeDrakonik, even burned ones?04:37
DrakonikHm.04:37
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tristanmikeDrakonik, yes, hm indeed...what program did you used to burn?04:38
DrakonikWell, I don't think I've used any burned discs. At least, not in this box.04:38
rysiek|plnickrud: yes, I know it exits, but look at the comment: "check if usplash is runing and skip this, we'll get run again later"04:38
rysiek|plnickrud: and it doesn't :/04:38
DrakonikI used Hero Burning Rom. It's all we've got.04:38
Drakonik*Nero04:38
tristanmikeDrakonik, that should be fine04:38
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: my pleasure. always like to advertise GPLed software ;)04:38
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GnarusLeoyeah, got your back04:39
DrakonikAnyway. What were you saying about the .iso being one file, as opposed to several?04:39
HymnToLifeDrakonik> When you browse your CD, do you see one .iso file ?04:39
nickrudrysiek|pl, good point.04:39
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gorkendelhola04:40
DrakonikI can't browse the CD.04:40
HymnToLife!es04:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:40
HymnToLifeDrakonik> then there's obviously a problem04:40
DrakonikI'm guessing that there was some kind burning error.04:40
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tristanmikeDrakonik, well, if you just "burned" the iso, you would have one file on the cd "image.iso" which is incorrect (it's a comman mistake) so you have to burn "the image file" or something similar which "decompresses" the iso and puts it in it's proper format04:40
DrakonikALthough Nero didn't give me any.04:40
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rysiek|plnickrud: well, yeah, but I would dearly love to get this point to a point where the script actually gets called ;)04:40
DrakonikHm.04:40
DrakonikI see.04:40
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tristanmikeDrakonik, if you can't browse the cd, then it may be possible that you didn't burn it..what does the file size say for the cd? or does it error saying there is no cd?04:41
Healotanyone successfully compiles dapper's firefox on breezy?04:41
DrakonikIt says that there's no CD in the drive.04:41
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tristanmikeDrakonik, so it seems that there was a problem with the burning, did you get any errors while burning?04:42
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DrakonikNope. No errors at all.04:42
tristanmikeonly the one drive04:43
nickrudrysiek|pl  /etc/init.d/usplash is supposed to re run console.screen04:43
rysiek|plyeah, looking into it right now04:43
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heyjoe2anyone help with getting the computer to recognize a usb device?04:44
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Ex-Cyberheyjoe2: what kind of device?04:45
michaeldeusche sever??04:46
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GnarusLeoOMFG! Conserning win license authorizing with Virtual Machine, MS states that its "only one key pr. machine" - EVEN if its a virtual machine (wich PRESISELY uses the same hardware) ... Thats the most stupid off-GPL thing I have ever heard!04:46
pedrocrdoes ubuntu support ntfs RW by default?04:46
HymnToLifeno04:46
HymnToLifentfs is read only04:46
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pedrocrHymnToLife: because I connected an external USB disk and it seems to be mounted RW04:46
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, did you get that?04:47
pedrocrHymnToLife: the /etc/mtab line says "rw"04:47
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chrisw69hi04:47
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: get what?04:47
michaelde server?????04:47
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, OMFG! Conserning win license authorizing with Virtual Machine, MS states that its "only one key pr. machine" - EVEN if its a virtual machine (wich PRESISELY uses the same hardware) ... Thats the most stupid off-GPL thing I have ever heard!04:47
chrisw69is it possible to use tahoma on linux?04:47
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heyjoe2ex-cyber: it is a 128mb legend usb drive04:47
rysiek|plpedrocr: there is a working way of getting RW NTFS on linux04:47
rysiek|plpedrocr: gimme a sec04:47
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rysiek|plGnarusLeo: yep, roflmao :] 04:48
Healotthat's really dangerous...04:48
DrakonikOkay. How do I get the "image file" that I need to burn to the CD? I can't use my unzipping util, so do I need to download it or something?04:48
pedrocrrysiek|pl: yes, I know, but I'm mystified why ubuntu seems to mount rw without me doing anything04:48
Healotcan be done, not recommended though...04:48
GnarusLeonah, I used RW on nfts 4 years ago, it worked for about 1 year, then it crashed :)04:48
rysiek|plpedrocr: it doesn't mount rw. the default driver doesn't support rw04:48
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HymnToLifeDrakonik> in Nero you choose "Open file"04:49
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: what did you use? Captive-NTFS?04:49
idefixwhen you have a script called runfs you run it with ./runfs, right?04:49
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HymnToLifeand open your.iso04:49
loukahi04:49
DrakonikOh.04:49
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DrakonikD'oh.04:49
heyjoe2Ex-Cyber: it is a 128mb legend usb driv04:49
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, dont remember actually, think MDK had something unofficial ..04:49
larsemilidefix, sh runfs04:49
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shivanHi04:49
idefixwhy do I get a silly output like nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' ??04:49
DrakonikI hope this works. This is my last blank CD.04:50
rysiek|plGnarusLeo: well, Captive uses the official Microsoft drivers - just establishes a compatibility layer between the M$ NTFS driver and the Linux kernel :] 04:50
GnarusLeohehe,good luck :)04:50
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idefix./runfs and sh runfs both give it04:50
GnarusLeorysiek|pl, that sounds safe enough? Ever tested it?04:50
chrisw69can i use tahoma on linux?04:50
HymnToLifeDrakonik> hold on a sec04:50
tristanmikechrisw69, the font?04:50
chrisw69ya04:50
Ex-Cyberheyjoe2: I'm not sure what to suggest... normally USB drives "just work" in ubuntu04:51
idefixlarsemil?04:51
nickrudidefix, that's an info thing; you might be able to get rid of it with a >/dev/null in the right place in the script04:51
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larsemilidefix,  dont know04:51
tristanmikechrisw69, i think you'll have to bring a copy of the ttf over, but all "ttf's" can be used un Ubuntu04:51
idefixam I allowed to paste the script into here? I was just trying to install this program called slimeforest04:51
idefixit's only three lines04:51
chrisw69how do i install it?04:52
heyjoe2Ex-Cyber: i plug it in and nothing happens04:52
heyjoe2Ex-Cyber: and it works a charm on the mac os x's at uni04:52
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jan_when i do a lspci i get id on my wlan card: 0000:02:07.0, but it's supposed to be on the form XXXX:XXXX. What is the trick here?04:52
tristanmikechrisw69, you should be able to drop it in your /home/<user>./fonts  directory04:52
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heyjoe2ohwell. anyone else know how to specially configure usb drives?04:52
chrisw69cool thanks04:53
idefix#!/bin/sh04:53
idefix  cd `dirname $0`/jquest04:53
idefix  nohup ./jquest -fullscreen (is this supposed to install the downloaded program slimeforest?)04:53
tristanmikechrisw69, er/home/<user>/.fonts04:53
tristanmikegrrr!04:53
HymnToLifeDrakonik> here's what you need to use http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8537/nero1gj.jpg04:53
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tristanmikechrisw69, that is    /home/<user>/.fonts04:53
shivanwtf ? oaidl_p.c:5455: Fehler: Zuweisung der schreibgeschtzten Variable guid04:53
larsemilheyjoe2, tried mounting it? do a dmesg and se if ubuntu recognizes it as a disk04:53
shivanPls help me04:53
idefix:-|04:53
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DrakonikThere's a problem. It says that I can't start a multi-session disc for some reason.04:54
larsemilidefix, u have nohup on comp?04:54
DjDarkmanhi ,how can i restart alsa?04:54
tristanmikemulti-session?04:54
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idefixthere is a man nohup, so I think so..04:54
chrisw69thanks04:54
tristanmikeDrakonik, it should be saying that04:54
mike-ehi where's the wiki for upgrading hoary to breezy04:54
shivanCan you help me pls -> oaidl_p.c:5455: Fehler: Zuweisung der schreibgeschtzten Variable guid04:54
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HymnToLifeDrakonik> see the red ellipsearound the open button, click on it04:54
nickrudidefix, no idea, never heard of it. > /dev/null after -fullscreen should get rid of the info message though04:54
HymnToLifeand choose your iso04:55
idefixI'd rather have the message and the game installed04:55
bricegoh yes common goodbye!04:55
shivanSome1 from german ?04:55
DrakonikYou must have a different verion than mine.04:55
HymnToLife!de04:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de04:55
axisyshow do I access global address book suing evolution?04:55
rysiek|plshivan: #ubuntu-de04:55
DrakonikMine is probably four or five years old.04:55
idefixI'd just like the game installed!04:55
HymnToLifehmm04:55
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axisys!evolution04:55
ubotuaxisys: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:55
tristanmikeDrakonik, look for an option "burn image file" or similar04:55
HymnToLifecan you gat me a screenshot of yourd ?04:56
HymnToLifeyours*04:56
DrakonikWill do.04:56
axisys!addressbook04:56
ubotuaxisys: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:56
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jimjawnHey all!  I'm having mad problems with ctrl+backspace resetting my gnome-session.  I think it might be XGL anyone know how to fix it?04:56
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gnomefreakjimjawn: please ask in #xgl-ubuntu04:57
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DrakonikOkay, I saw the burn image file, and it's running.04:57
tristanmikeDrakonik, that should work for you04:57
jimjawngnomefreak thanks04:57
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gnomefreakjimyw04:57
tristanmikegnomefreak, to late :P04:57
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gnomefreaklol what else is new :)04:58
garethhi04:58
garethive just hosed my PC04:58
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garethas in 100% gone04:58
gnomefreakgareth: what did you do?04:58
garethand as i cant reinstall windows, i could use some help04:58
garethi intended to install ubuntu on a separate partition04:58
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garethbut windows wouldnt boot after that04:58
paradizelostHey all.  I'm having some problems getting vncserver to work04:59
windowmakerHAH04:59
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garethso i cant install windows- because it was oem04:59
windowmakerthat's so funny to see as son as you enter a channel04:59
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paradizelostit seems to start, but doesn't04:59
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garethso, i need to know how to use this04:59
tristanmikegareth, do you mean you borked it resizing your partition?04:59
paradizelostand i'm not getting any errors04:59
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garethnot exactly04:59
vars!nvidia04:59
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:59
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garethit worked the partition resize let ubuntu boot, but 2 windows files got lost05:00
garethat least thats what i think05:00
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garethbut now i only have ubuntu05:00
jadrifterGood Morning all.05:00
tritiumgareth: not likely05:00
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DrakonikOkay. The CD is burned.05:00
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DrakonikNow, how do I boot from it?05:00
garethso i need to know, does ubuntu have a firewall included in the default install?05:00
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codemacIs there somewhere I can search online for officially supported packages for ubuntu?05:00
paradizelostgareth: i recommend installing firestarter05:01
nickrudgareth, check to see that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9962 is at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst , if not add it05:01
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WilliamCaiHello guys05:01
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jadrifterAnyone know how to change the default editor from nano to vim in Ubuntu?  I can't find the setting in /etc05:01
tristanmikeDrakonik, so take the same steps, in your BIOS configure your boot order to boot from cd (if it isn't already)05:01
gnomefreakDrakonik: put it in the cdrom reboot go into bios make sure you change it to boot from cdrom05:01
idefixwhat does it mean when you run a command immune to hangups?05:01
DrakonikI don't want to make it permanent, though.05:01
nickrudjadrifter, sudo update-alternatives --config editor05:01
tristanmikeDrakonik, we'll change it back :)05:01
WilliamCaiCould anybody show me some clues about the status of Ubuntu Server features?05:01
DrakonikD'oh!05:01
DrakonikRIght. I...forgot about that.05:01
DrakonikWell, I'm going to reboot, and if it works, then I'll come back here and report, somehow.05:02
kumyhi05:02
varshey i have a geforcefx 5500 is that a gforce 2?05:02
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jadrifternickrud, god bless you!  I was going crazy!05:02
tristanmikeDrakonik, see you in a half hour to an hour05:02
DrakonikAlrighty then.05:02
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kumyI've a problem : my "lo" interface doesn't start at boot... could you help me ? please05:03
paradizelostHey, can anyone help me with vncserver?05:03
gnomefreakvars: install the nvidia-setting and the nvidia-glx05:03
tristanmikeDrakonik, hint, once your installed "Applications-Internet-xchat"05:03
OhmHI guys05:03
jadrifterupdate-alternatives.  Is that a Ubuntu program?  I've never seen it before.05:03
OhmHow can I KILL a program in process?05:03
DrakonikThanks. I was hoping there'd be an IRC client in there.05:03
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tristanmikeDrakonik, you know it ;)05:03
paradizelostohm:  kill -9 pid or killall -9 programname05:03
DrakonikHasta luego, mi amigos.05:03
OhmI can't stop it, clickong in X close05:03
nickrudjadrifter, it's a debian thing, carried over. all the alternatives are listed in /etc/alternatives05:03
Ohmhmmmm05:03
paradizelostah,  xkill05:03
idefixcan anyone explain to me how to install a just downloaded program?05:03
OhmI will try that05:03
michaeldusche sever?????????'05:03
michaeldeusche05:04
varsgnomefreek   is the binary how to the one i need to follow?05:04
paradizelostohm: just be careful where you click05:04
Ohmkill -9 pid? what does mean PID?05:04
paradizelostprocess id05:04
tristanmikeidefix, which program ?05:04
gnomefreakvars: yes just install the 2 i said above05:04
rambo3process id05:04
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paradizelostif you do a ps -eaf, it'll list everything that's running05:04
idefixsfa05:04
Ohmhmmm, the program name in the case05:04
Ohmoks05:04
paradizelostthere's a process id number05:04
gnomefreakmichael: #ubuntu-de05:04
idefixor slimeforest, a program to learn japanese hiragana and katakana05:04
jadrifternickrud, I was just going through the manfile.  Beautiful!  Gotta love "The Debian Way".05:04
tristanmikeidefix, sfa?05:04
varsok i've done that and just that05:04
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paradizelostohm:  or, if you are really having problems in X,  CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE05:05
varsgnomefreak, do i have to enable it or anything?05:05
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paradizelostit will kill X05:05
varsor just start x?05:05
gnomefreakvars: are you on breezy?05:05
jadrifternickrud, thanks again.  I'm a sys admin, we're switching our servers to Ubuntu, and I keep getting nano when I go to edit unless I remember to set the visual env.05:05
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varsyes breezy05:05
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vars--- server install though05:05
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nickrudjadrifter, yeah, that's exactly where you want to be as an admin :)05:05
varsshouldn't be a problem05:05
Ohmbut CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, logoff?05:05
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gnomefreakvars: you have any gui?05:05
varsfluxbox05:06
paradizelostohm:  it kills X and everything that would be running in X at the time05:06
tristanmikeidefix, how did it download ? deb? tar.bz2 ?05:06
OhmMy problem is, the GNOME ART-MANAGER is dowloading 1500!!!! backgrounds05:06
gnomefreakvars: ok use the enable command shown on that page than restart X05:06
idefixsfa.tgz05:06
Ohmand, I can't stop it05:06
idefixtristanmike: sfa.tgz05:06
varsgnomefreek thankyou05:06
paradizelosthow did you pull that off??? ;)05:06
kumyanyone for my loopback interface problem that doesn't start at boot ?05:06
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paradizelostxkill should do the trick05:07
gnomefreakvars: yw but you may also need to run another command05:07
ryanakcato switch from kubuntu to ubuntu or xubuntu without having to downloading an install disk, you just go "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" once you've got "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" (if you want to get rid of kubuntu)   and vice versa for ubuntu - kde or xubuntu, right?05:07
tristanmikeidefix, ok, so right click on the file and select "extract here"05:07
idefixI moved the directory to ~/bin05:07
paradizelostjust run xkill, then click in the window you want to ogo away05:07
idefixshould I extract it to the desktop you mean?05:07
tristanmikeidefix, yes05:07
OhmHow I see a programa ID?05:07
nickrudryanakca, install yes, but uninstall no05:07
paradizelostyou won't need the pid with xkill05:07
idefixok there is now a slimeforest directory on my desktop05:08
paradizelostxkill will turn your mouse cursor into a skull and crossbones05:08
Ohmhmmmm05:08
gnomefreakryanakca: that will remove the meta package but there is alot more involved than just running apt-get remove05:08
Ohmgood05:08
paradizelostjust click in the window you want to go away05:08
tristanmikeidefix, you should do all your work from somewhere in your /home<usrname>  directory, I perfer working from the Desktop then cleaning up after I'm done05:08
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axisys!ldap05:08
ubotuaxisys: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:08
axisys!openldap05:08
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys05:08
OhmIt is the KILLPROGRAM in KURUMIN?05:08
paradizelostjust be careful not to click on the desktop or anyhing05:08
varsgnomefreak, what is the other command that i need to run?05:08
nickrudlol05:08
paradizelostnot familiar with kurmin05:08
axisysis there a openldap pkg out there for ubuntu?05:08
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Ohmhmmmm05:08
Ngaxisys: yes05:08
Ohmoks05:09
tristanmikeidefix, ok, enter the directory and search for either something that ends in ".sh" or something that says "configure" do you see either?05:09
OhmI will try05:09
Ngaxisys: it's probably called slapd05:09
gnomefreakvars: you might have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you have the driver setting to nvidia05:09
tristanmikeidefix, can I get a link to the file to see what you have?05:09
rysiek|plbrb05:09
idefixthere's runfs.sh, runwin.sh, two txt files and a jquest directory05:09
paradizelostanyone available to assist me w/ vncserver, i installed it, it seems to start, no errors, but doesn't05:09
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idefixhttp://lrnj.com/05:09
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DrakonikWell, that was a resounding failure.05:10
GnarusLeoparadizelost, "vncserver :0" gives you what?05:10
tristanmikeDrakonik, ohhh, why? same thing?05:10
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chrisw69hi there05:10
Ohm:) thats OK!05:10
Ohmthanks!05:10
paradizelostsays that it's taken05:10
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henkin gnome my volume wheel on my keyboard works and it shows a popup with the volume. How do i get this in kde ?05:10
paradizelostbut i want to havea vncserver running on :105:10
idefixtristanmike http://lrnj.com05:10
jageranyone know a way to detect machines that are spewing virii on a local network?05:10
DrakonikWell, my BIOS was already configured to use Boot-from-CD as it's first priority, however: It iddn't boot from the CD.05:10
GnarusLeoparadizelost, "vncserver :1" then?05:10
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paradizelostNew 'sobek:1 (dan)' desktop is sobek:105:11
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jageri thought maybe etherape would show me this traffic but it does not appear to do so05:11
tristanmikeDrakonik, can your browse the cd now?05:11
paradizelostbut it doesn't actually start05:11
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DrakonikOne sec05:11
GnarusLeoparadizelost, what do you mean? What error do you get?05:11
tristanmikechrisw69, hi, please keep all conversation here, thank you :)05:11
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chrisw69ok05:11
paradizelostno error, but there is no process running when it finishes05:11
chrisw69i can't copy to the font folder05:11
chrisw69it says i don't have permission05:11
chrisw69I'm new :\05:12
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tristanmikechrisw69, you can't copy to /home/chris69/.fonts  ?05:12
Lorentz`evening people05:12
jagerin fact it shows me less traffic than i expected by far05:12
tristanmikechrisw69, it's no worries at all =)05:12
Lorentz`i'm currently working on changing the default gnome menu items for a corporate rollout of ubuntu05:12
GnarusLeoparadizelost, so when you type "vncserver :2" or whatever .. do you get something like "New 'X' desktop is tryodin:205:12
GnarusLeo" ?05:12
Lorentz`but according to the manual, i should be able to enter applications-all-users:/// in nautilus05:12
DrakonikNope. It's not reading a CD.05:12
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Lorentz`it gives me an error though05:12
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Lorentz`anyone who can tell me wether applications-all-users://, preferences-all-users://, etc have been removed in ubuntu?05:13
tristanmikeDrakonik, hmmm05:13
paradizelostyes.  but if i do a ps -eaf there is no process in the list, and i cannot connect to the session05:13
tristanmikeDrakonik, do you have other burned cd's there you can try...?05:13
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chrisw69i can't copy the font i want over though05:13
varsok how many kb asre in a Mb05:13
idefixtristanmike? do I need java or something for the program?05:13
chrisw69how do i do it?05:13
DrakonikThere was the first one I burned which had the same problem.05:13
tristanmikeidefix, sorry, I don't think so....looking....05:13
GnarusLeoparadizelost, do a "ps aux | grep vnc" and check for any XrealVNC or something in that list05:14
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paradizelostroot      6249  0.0  0.0   1624   492 pts/2    S+   10:20   0:00 grep vnc05:14
paradizelostis the only item05:14
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ryanakcagnomefreak: how do you remove kubuntu / kde and install ubuntu / gnome? or can they co-exist?05:14
varsok how many kb are  in a Mb  i am serious05:14
paradizelostvars:102405:14
GnarusLeoparadizelost, hm, thats strange ... have you checked your deamons?05:15
paradizelostfor example???05:15
gnomefreakryanakca: they can both be installed on system and you choose to use either one at log-in screen under sessions05:15
tristanmikeidefix, ok, easy peasy05:15
OhmMy totem cantt open any video :( What I do?05:15
tristanmikeidefix, i ran the game in full screen there and couldn't get back, :P lol05:15
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varsso a 256 MB would have 256*1024   kb?05:15
paradizelostvars: http://familyinternet.about.com/cs/computinghelp/l/aa052401a.htm05:15
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GnarusLeoparadizelost, probably an easier way to display them, but old school I use the "service" command (not installed default by ubuntu) to list my services05:16
gnomefreakvars yes05:16
idefixso it works on your PC!05:16
idefixtristanmike..05:16
tristanmikeidefix, simply cd into the slimeforest folder and type "./runfs" for full screen and "./runwin" for windowed mode05:16
tristanmikeidefix, yeah, looks neat05:16
GnarusLeotristanmike, what is good old "service" command substitued with in ubuntu?05:16
idefixwhen I do this I get nohup: appending output to `nohup.out`05:16
tristanmikeDrakonik, I'm beginning to suspect a bad drive05:17
idefixwhen I do this I get nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'05:17
rysiek|plnickrud: ok, I got the problem with console-screen.sh not being called by usplash almost pinned-down, would you help me for 5 mins with a sorta long IF condition?05:17
DrakonikIt's possible.05:17
tristanmikeGnarusLeo, top ?05:17
nickrudrysiek|pl, I'm a low intermediate bash scripter, but I'll look :)05:17
DrakonikBut, I don't think my drive is bad. It read everything else I put in.05:17
idefixoh heck!05:17
tristanmikeDrakonik, do you have another burned cd, aside from the first one, you can try and read dat off ?05:17
GnarusLeotristanmike, can you stop and start services with top?05:18
DrakonikHm.05:18
DrakonikLet me look. I might be able to find one.05:18
varsgnomefreak, should i use frambuffer/05:18
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vars?05:18
tristanmikeGnarusLeo, man top  :P05:18
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chrisw69can anyone tell me how to install tahoma on my system05:18
nickrudGnarusLeo, invoke-rc.d is the services semi-equiv05:18
rysiek|pl!pastebin05:18
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)05:18
gnomefreakvars: start with no05:18
idefixtristanmike, how come your linux does it and mine doesn't?!05:18
varswha the heck is frmaebuffer?05:18
GnarusLeothere you  have it, thanks nickrud  ... paradizelost, did you get that?05:18
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paradizelostnuts, was looking elsewhere..05:19
paradizelostget what?05:19
idefix:'''(05:19
Drak|BusyOkay. One drive can read the burned CD. Now to test the other.05:19
GnarusLeouse invoke-rc.d to display your deamons05:19
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idefixtristanmike? you still with me?05:20
rysiek|plnickrud: this seems TRUE upon shutdown, but FALSE upon boot-up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/996305:20
tristanmikeidefix, sorry05:20
tristanmikeidefix, phone call05:20
idefixnohup: appending output to `nohup.out'05:20
idefixthat's what I get05:20
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rysiek|plnickrud: and this needs to be TRUE if the console-screen.sh script is to be executed05:20
tobias_#ubuntu.se05:20
Drak|BusyWell, I think I may have found the problem.05:20
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remybrHello, I need some help. I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a imac 233. Anyone know how to disable DRI during the instalation?05:20
paradizelostok, so with that, what should i be checking to get vncserver working?05:20
tristanmikeidefix, so you "cd slimeforest" and run "./runwin" and nothing?05:20
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axisysNg: I just need the ldap client.. slapd is the answer?05:21
Drak|BusyThe burning drive can't read the burned CD>05:21
Drak|BusyLet me rebot and try again.05:21
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idefix ./runwin05:21
idefixnohup: appending output to `nohup.out'05:21
nickrudrysiek|pl, I don't know what half of those things are supposed to do in the first place05:21
gnomefreakabs guide :)05:21
idefixtristanmike  ./runwin05:21
idefixnohup: appending output to `nohup.out'05:21
rysiek|plnickrud: ok, I'll set some more debug in place in usplash script (so that we know, what is TRUE and waht's not) and reboot to see the output05:22
paradizelostok, i loaded tightvncserver instead of vnc4server, but i get an error about not being able to open default font 'fixed'05:22
GnarusLeoparadizelost, I hounestly dont know ... just found out that vncserver wasnt a daemon at all .. sry05:22
tristanmikeidefix, it appears it may be library issues, like you don't have the proper ones installed05:22
tristanmikeidefix, ....looking.....05:22
idefixso.. how do I fix this?05:22
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GnarusLeodamn VMware takes alot of mem05:23
Healotyes...05:23
paradizelostgnarusleo: what version of vmware are you using?05:23
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HymnToLifewhat did you expect ? lol05:24
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HymnToLifeyou run your OS twice05:24
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axisys!slapd05:24
ubotuaxisys: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:24
w0rmzwhen is the next release of ubuntu ?05:24
rysiek|plapril05:24
gnomefreakapril 20th05:24
nickrud!info slapd05:24
ubotuslapd: (OpenLDAP server (slapd)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.26-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 844 kB, Installed size: 2396 kB05:24
tristanmikeidefix, the readme is crap05:24
GnarusLeoparadizelost, VMware Player 1.0.1 build-1917505:24
paradizelostbecause with vmware server, you can have it cache most of the vm's to disk, reduce the memory usage if you don't use the virtual machine for a while05:24
paradizelosti'd use vmware server, it's also free now.05:25
axisysnickrud: it should have ldapsearch tool no?05:25
paradizelostit's the equivalent of Vmware GSX05:25
GnarusLeoHymnToLife, of course ;) but 30% was more then expected ..05:25
paradizelostand you can create virtual machines05:25
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nickrudaxisys, you can find out what's in a package on packages.ubuntu.com05:25
paradizelostthat's what i have running on about 5 machines05:25
idefixtristanmike, how long do you use linux?05:25
w0rmzgnomefreak. thanks dude05:25
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GnarusLeoWhats bothering me now is the windows activating on VMware(!)05:25
gnomefreakyw05:25
axisysnickrud: i will chk it out.. thnx05:25
tristanmikeidefix, since June of last year05:25
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remybrHello, I need some help. I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a imac 233. Anyone know how to disable DRI during the instalation?05:25
tristanmikeidefix, open synaptic and search for "sdl"05:26
GnarusLeoparadizelost, how did your win activation go? If you have it05:26
varsgnomefreak yay it works05:26
gnomefreak;)05:26
paradizelostjust fine.05:26
emad__Hi there05:26
paradizelostif you have activated the os before, you may need to call M$05:26
paradizelostjust tell them you are doing a re-install05:26
idefixtristanmike maybe it works on hoary and not on my version05:26
tristanmikeidefix, i'm on breezy05:27
nickrudgnomefreak, I meant to ask, did you ever get e17 working?05:27
GnarusLeowhere will that get you ... apperantly they policy says one key pr machine (EVEN though its a virtual) ...05:27
idefixtristanmike hmm, strange05:27
gnomefreaknickrud: nope05:27
tristanmikeidefix, did you search for "sdl" ?05:27
paradizelostthey don't need to know that.05:27
paradizelost:D05:27
idefixtristanmike it isn't in the list05:27
nickrudgnomefreak, then I'm gonna try one last thing today, then give up05:27
gnomefreaknickrud: you couldnt get it either?05:27
paradizelostor, you could try a volume license version of windows05:27
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tristanmikeidefix, in synaptic, look for libsdl1.2debian and is it installed ?05:28
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GnarusLeoparadizelost, which is?05:28
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nickrudgnomefreak, I ran into some issues, ran out of time, and haven't had the time to try again05:28
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paradizelostdoesn't require activation, because it can be used on an indefinite number of systems w the same key05:28
paradizelostnormally used in corporations05:28
gnomefreakahh05:28
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varsok, now copuld someone who has actually done this in th past help me with this?   i have a seperate /home with my home information on it and i just reinstalled breezy, how do i recover my old user information?05:28
GnarusLeoparadizelost, nah, dont use any pirate keys05:28
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idefixtristanmike, there are 5  libsdl1.2debian 's05:29
transgresscan i ask dapper questions in here or does it have to be in #ubuntu+105:29
transgress?05:29
GnarusLeoparadizelost, not _that_ desperate to get win up running :)05:29
emad__I need your help I have just installed ubuntu last releas and when I use synaptic to install gnome-blutooth the error message says :gnome-bluetooth:05:29
emad__ Depends: libbtctl2 but it is not going to be installed05:29
emad__ Depends: libopenobex-1.0-0 (>=1.0.0-rel) but it is not installable05:29
emad__ Depends: python2.4-libbtctl but it is not going to be installed05:29
HymnToLifeparadizelost> or with OEM PCs05:29
paradizelostthen just call the activation center, and tell them taht it's a re-install05:29
idefix libsdl1.2debian -alsa, -arts, -esd, -nas and -oss05:29
gnomefreaknickrud: not for e17 you wont find one worth a crap05:29
tristanmikeidefix, just the "libsdl1.2debian" nothing else05:29
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GnarusLeo!tell emad__ spam05:29
rysiek|plgotta go, guys05:29
tristanmikeidefix, is it installed ?05:29
paradizelostOEM pc's require activation05:29
HymnToLifethe Windows version I got with my HPs don't require activation either05:29
LoCusF!spam05:29
nickrudgnomefreak, yours ;p05:29
paradizelosthmm most of them that i see do05:29
rysiek|plcu all, cu nickrud, thx for the help :)05:29
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LoCusF05:29
gnomefreakemad__: no pasting in here please use pastebin for all your pasting needs05:29
idefixtristanmike the square next to it is green05:29
nickrudselinium, ryanakca05:29
emad__ok sorry05:30
tristanmikeidefix, ok, that's installed05:30
GnarusLeo!tell emad__ pastebin05:30
gnomefreaklol nickrud i havent had time to look at it but i think compiling is best bet05:30
nickruddarn completion05:30
gnomefreakmaybe not05:30
gnomefreakhold on a min05:30
GnarusLeo!tell ?05:30
idefixtristanmike, so what else could be the problem?05:30
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tristanmikeidefix, hmm, I suspect libraries because no where does it mention java, flash, or any other crazy software to run, it does mention some libraries are needed but is not specific, the readme as I said, is crap05:31
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sanbecHi05:32
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idefixtristanmike, well I've gotta go, thanks for your help, I guess I'll have to live without the program05:32
Ash-Fox_!ati05:32
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:32
tristanmikeidefix, wait, one more thin05:32
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tristanmikeidefix, enter the "jquest" directory inside slime forest05:33
emad__any one can help me for gnome-buetooth ?05:33
paradizelostany of you guys know how to get squirrelmail working properly on ubuntu?05:33
idefixok05:33
tristanmikeidefix, and double click on the "jquest" icon05:33
GnarusLeo!bluetooth05:33
ubotubluetooth is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote05:33
idefixtristanmike, nothing happens05:33
paradizelosti've installed it, but can't access it through the web server that i can find...05:33
GnarusLeoemad__, easy howtos05:33
tristanmikeidefix, ok, see the file nohup.out ? open it and see what it says05:33
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idefix./jquest: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:34
emad__but there is an error when I need to install it05:34
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sanbecIn firefox, when I click over an irc link, I get a message like "IRC is an unknown protocol"05:34
GnarusLeoemad__, wich error?05:34
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DrakonikIs there some kind of button that I'm supposed to hit to boot from a CD?05:34
DrakonikIf there is, I've never heard of it.05:34
tristanmikeidefix, search for "libsdl-image1.2" in synaptic and install05:34
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GnarusLeoDraconicus, depends on your bios05:35
sanbecI want any progrna like x-chat to be opened05:35
idefixtristanmike? is that all? will it work then?05:35
varsok, now copuld someone who has actually done this in th past help me with this?   i have a seperate /home with my home information on it and i just reinstalled breezy, how do i recover my old user information?05:35
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tristanmikeidefix, I suspect05:35
emad__gnome-bluetooth: Depends: libbtctl2 but it is not going to be installed05:35
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emad__what shoul i do05:35
paradizelostvars:  you would just mount that partition to /home05:35
HymnToLifevars> by just remounting your old /home partition on /home05:35
dyrneDrakonik: some laptops (toshiba ) you can just hit like 'c' at bootup but normally you have to strike esc or f1 and change the boot order for the computer05:35
GnarusLeoemad__, then install the libs05:35
emad__?05:35
paradizelostmount /dev/sd## /home05:36
HymnToLife(assuming you have the same usernam)05:36
GnarusLeoemad__, "sudo apt-get install libbtctl2"05:36
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DrakonikCrap. I guess that means I'll have to dig though my BIOS and look for a key I'm supposed to hit.05:36
emad__it says : but it is not going to be installed for each lib I want to install it seperately05:36
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idefixtristanmike, do I click "Mark All Upgrades" now?05:36
tristanmikeDrakonik, your not on a mac are you?05:36
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gnomefreaknickrud: i just heard compiling it is easy :(05:36
DrakonikNope. PC. Desktop.05:36
rumburackhi is there someone with hamachi installed ? i need a little help with connecting to friens05:36
tristanmikeidefix, yeah, just put a check in that one box, and install anything it wants to05:37
GnarusLeoemad__, did you do what I told you?05:37
varsi did taht at installation, but i can't just pickup my old user account where it was left off05:37
tristanmikeDrakonik, is it a Dell or something?05:37
emad__yes yes yes I know05:37
nickrudgnomefreak, I'm probably gonna just get all the debs, and do a dpkg -i * (thank god for aptitude for cleanup, if it really gets choppy)05:37
DrakonikNope. Not a dell.05:37
DrakonikIt's a "Pravo"05:37
DrakonikAnd really, really old.05:37
emad__can I talk to U in private ?05:37
gnomefreaklol05:37
DrakonikAt least, I think so.05:37
GnarusLeoemad__, shoot05:37
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DrakonikIt's probably been in the family for a decade or so.05:37
emad__first thing ( I'm new in ubuntu  )05:38
tristanmikeDrakonik, lol, well, I would see if your cd's boot in a friends computer, or at least browseable05:38
DrakonikThe motherboard has been upgraded, though.05:38
GnarusLeoemad__, guess what :) Me too05:38
DrakonikHm.05:38
emad__and I'm from kuwait too05:38
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Protocol1can someone help me on getting proper glx support for my intel video card?05:38
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gnomefreaklol at i cant compile it05:38
emad__poor in english so be patient with me05:38
GnarusLeoemad__, well, just dont speak kuwaiti to me and we'll be fine :)05:38
dyrneProtocol1: its onboard video?05:38
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DrakonikI guess I could try loading it on mom's lap-top.05:39
emad__loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool I hope you will know05:39
Q-FUNKis there any repository where I could find versions of ubuntu-artwork prior to 3? i.e. prior to ubuntulooks05:39
Protocol1dyrne, yeah05:39
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Protocol1its a laptop05:39
tristanmikeDrakonik, just see if it's browesable, no need to write anything over05:39
nosilver4uanyone know why svgs wouldn't give me previews randomly?05:39
tristanmikeDrak|Away, just see if it's browesable, no need to write anything over05:39
Drak|AwayYeah, I know.05:39
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rumburackpls Hamachi users PM me :)05:40
tristanmikeidefix, how's it comming ?05:40
gnomefreaknickrud: do you still have that site (the repo)05:40
dyrneProtocol1: i just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the video driver to i810 annd the other settings default.  worked for me05:40
nosilver4ui have one folder with 2 svgs and some other images, and previews show up in nautilus just fine, but then i have another with tons of svgs, and no previews05:40
pfhortrondgen won't work05:40
GnarusLeoemad__, well ... you havent actually asked me anything yet, so Ill take a shower, and maybe we'll talk when I get back ... ok05:40
tristanmikenot well it seems05:40
Protocol1dyrne, the video card is a Intel 82852 / 855GM05:40
Drac|CrateHmm..05:40
Protocol1its running off that right now...i selected the i81005:41
emad__ok ok as you like :(05:41
poet_@all: the bet way to compile modulos in ubuntu is with module-assistant ?05:41
dyrneProtocol1: the i810 should work i havent used the 910 driver. it should be an option in dapper but not breezy i thing05:41
poet_s/bet/best05:41
paradizelostanyone know how to install the default fixed font?05:41
dyrnethink*05:41
nickrudhttp://www.soulmachine.net/breezy/ gnomefreak05:41
paradizelostwhat package i'd look for?05:41
tristanmikeemad__, what's the trouble ?05:41
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stendhalhello i search a strategy game05:42
stendhalpleas05:42
nickrudpoet_, so we are all told05:42
emad__I want to install gnome-bluetooth , I need it but it wont05:42
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tristanmikestendhal, "Battle for Wesnoth"05:42
gnomefreakty nickrud  btw you cant compile it :( the depends blow (for dapper atleast)05:42
pfhortroncan anyone compile pcsx on ppc ubuntu?05:42
stendhaltristan_,  i have already this05:42
Protocol1I sure hope so....cause im using cedega and I can only run one of my favorite games in software mode05:42
Drac|CrateI think I'm having problems with audio CD support. Is there any reason why audio CDs would have difficulty playing in a 16x or 8x drive?05:42
stendhalan other pleas05:42
stendhal:)05:42
Protocol1there is an option to use opengl...but it is very choppy05:43
paradizelostdrac|crate: do you have DMA turned on?05:43
frank___someone wanna give me the veritcl and hoirzontal refresh numbers from their xorg.conf file(for 1024x768 @ 60Hz), or tell me how i can run xorgconfig05:43
nickrudgnomefreak, I won't be compiling it, I have religious reasons :)05:43
paradizelosthdparm -d /dev/cdrom05:43
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, I'm not sure. How do I check?05:43
g3nocidesomeone wanna give me the veritcl and hoirzontal refresh numbers from their xorg.conf file(for 1024x768 @ 60Hz), or tell me how i can run xorgconfig05:43
paradizelostor hdparm -d /dev/hd##05:43
pfhortronI almost compiled mupen64 in ppc ubuntu05:43
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paradizelostwhatever your cdrom is05:43
gnomefreaklol i dont blame you but im wondering how this is gonna work on dapper :(05:43
nickrudg3nocide, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:43
matrixCan any one tell me how to connect to VPN05:43
emad__many applications in Synaptic wont install05:43
tristanmikestendhal, stratagus ?05:43
ddonkyi clicked on the update thing and it said it was going to install a bunch of stuff like python, so i dod it, and then a message came up saying totem didnt upgrade and i need to run synaptic smart update, or apt-get dist upgrade, what does this mean?05:43
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poet_nickrud, ?05:44
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g3nocidenickrud: thanks05:44
matrixCan any one please tell me how to connect to VPN05:44
stendhalTristanmike thanks05:44
nickrudpoet_, it's a good standard method. I was a bit flippant there, sorry05:44
burebistanr2sza05:44
pfhortronis there a ubuntu PPC channel for PowerPC arch05:44
paradizelostdrac|crate:  any results?05:44
Drac|Crateparadizelost, it's on. I should note that I'm riskily running the harddrive and CD-ROM drive on the same cable due to IDE controller problems with this BIOS. Could that also be the cause?05:45
matrixCan any one please tell me how to connect to VPN05:45
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gnomefreakpfhortron: you found it05:45
paradizelostcould be.05:45
paradizelostis the hard drive dma turned on?05:45
Drac|CrateLemme check.05:45
stendhaltristanmike,  thanks a lot this is a good gamr05:46
stendhalgame*05:46
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, yes, both drives have DMA turned on.05:46
tristanmikestendhal, I believe it's based off of war/starcraft05:46
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paradizelostk.  did you say the audio was choppy?05:46
Drak|AwayOkay, I'm back.05:46
tristanmikegnomefreak, is it just me, or has a lot of ppc users been looking for thier own channel lately?05:46
paradizelostis the disk scratched?05:46
tristanmikeDrak|Away, how are things going05:46
Protocol1can someone help me get support for my Intel 82852 / 855GM/GE graphics?05:46
paradizelostbrb05:46
stendhaltristanmike,  do you know others games ?05:46
Drak|Awaymy mom's laptop says that the CD has something on it, but when I tried to browse it, there was nothing in the explorer window.05:47
tonyyarussoOkay, I think I just did something dumb, and need help recovering.  (I'm on my roommate's computer at the moment.)05:47
Protocol1proper drivers installed that is05:47
pfhortronI want pcsx in ppc ubuntu it should be in the package manager05:47
gnomefreaktristanmike: they have05:47
tristanmikestendhal,  http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=strategy+games&btnG=Search05:47
lamp_Can i work witch ubuntu dapper right now, i run debian unstable at the moment so i'm used to some things :p05:47
pfhortronubuntu runs better than Macosx05:47
tristanmikestendhal, browse till your hearts content05:47
matrixCan any one tell me how to connect to VPN05:47
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gnomefreaklamp_: debian unstable is differetn that pre beta05:48
gnomefreaks/that/than05:48
stendhaltristanmike,  stratagus is not fullscreen05:48
lamp_gnomefreak: but does it work?  without many error or something05:48
tonyyarussoI turned off my backlight by mimicking the line I found in the suspend script, I think it was 'sudo vbetool dpms off'.  So then, to turn it back on, I tried to reverse it by hitting the up arrow, backspace three times, then on (effectively 'sudo vbetool dpms on'), then my password.  Now the screen is cycling through colors and I can't do anything.  Please help!05:49
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tristanmikestendhal, hmm, never played it, so I'm not sure of the settings05:49
fromvegaHello05:49
tristanmikestendhal, i just installed though.... :)05:49
gnomefreaklamp_: it runs here but there are a few things that need to be done and the fact that what works today maynot work later or tomorrow05:49
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paradizelostback05:49
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gnomefreaklamp_: feel free to use it but you have been warned it may break05:50
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lamp_gnomefreak: okey thanks i will run it as thirth os :p05:50
Drac|Crateparadizelost, yes, the audio is choppy. In Sound Juicer, it goes silent for around ten seconds at random.05:50
tristanmikestendhal, try running the stratagus command with "--help" to see if you can make full screen, you may need to compile it, I don't know for sure05:50
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, basically, it plays little bits of it at a time, as though it can't read the CD consistantly.05:51
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fromvegaI want to setup a webserver with Ubuntu, could you indicate some site about it? What do I need to setup, how to configure new websites, how do configure DNS information and how to secure against network attacks. Thank you!05:51
nickrudlamp_, it's feels pretty close to unstable at one of unstable's weaker times05:51
stendhaltristanmike,  ok05:51
paradizelostis the disc scratched?05:51
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paradizelosttry it in xmms05:51
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lamp_nickrud: :p05:52
tristanmikeDrakonik, there are strange happenings over there...05:52
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DrakonikYeah, I agree.05:52
gnomefreakbrb while 5th .deb is downloading :) ill let you knwo how it works out nickrud05:52
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Drac|Cratelamp_, I run Ubuntu Dapper on several systems. Flight 4 runs nicely. It's the final package inclusion, so you can just keep upgrading things until you one day have the final builds for the official release. I haven't had any problems with the latest stuff, so I recommend you give it a try.05:53
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pfhortronI can't find the mesa dev libraries in the package manager?05:53
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tristanmikeDrakonik, how large does your mom's lappy say it is05:53
DrakonikAlthough knowing me, I'm probably missing some simple yet minute detail.05:53
Drakonik270 meg.05:53
Drac|Crateparadizelost, the XMMS CD plugin won't work for me... it plays silently.05:53
realPIMPhello05:53
realPIMP:D05:53
realPIMPis here someone who likes Fantasy games?????05:53
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lafferptwhere is the apache configuration file location?05:53
nickrudgnomefreak, I gotta go, se you later05:53
psusilafferpt: /etc/apache?05:53
pfhortronis there any way to get opengl in ubuntu Yabause ask's for it05:54
Drac|Crateparadizelost, that is, of course, when I try to play a CDA file from the disc. I don't know any other way to use the plugin.05:54
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lafferptpsusi,  conf.d05:54
lafferpt?05:54
julian9932383i know this might be a noob question but how do you become the root user in ubuntu05:54
psusilafferpt: huh?05:54
paradizelostmake sure you are using ther right sound output in xmms05:54
paradizelostprobably need to change it to alsa05:54
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gnomefreakubotu tell julian9932383 about root05:54
lafferptpsusi, is it called conf.d?05:54
gsneddersis there any proper way to install Ubuntu on PPC in 64-bit mode?05:54
pfhortronI get no sound in VBA05:55
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, can you help me get my XMMS CD plugin working?05:55
psusilafferpt: I'm using apache2 and it's master config file is in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, and several sub config files are in the /etc/apache2/conf.d directory05:55
pfhortronI think vba runs better in linux than Mac OS X05:55
lafferptpsusi, ha ok05:55
Drac|Crateparadizelost, sorry, didn't see your text. Please use my name so I can see the highlight.05:55
lafferpttks05:55
stendhaltristanmike,  do you know bos ?05:55
Drac|Crateparadizelost, no, it's ALSA. I'm sure. Also, mp3s and such play fine. This is only CD-Related.05:56
paradizelostdrac|crate:  have you tried using CD Player under the sound and video menu?05:56
pfhortronmy logitech mouse some times stops in ubuntu from time to time05:56
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erg0t_hi05:56
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, No, lemme give that a shot.05:57
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erg0t_dont know if this is the proper channel but... im new to the gimp, and as incredible as it may sound, i dont see any "save" button05:57
erg0t_:/05:57
erg0t_how do i save my images?05:57
DrakonikCtrl-s?05:57
pfhortrondoes anyone know what program can create iso from cd's05:57
Antiquituserg0t_:  right click on the image ;)05:57
paradizelostpfhortron:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/name.iso05:58
erg0t_well i'll be damned05:58
erg0t_thanks Antiquitus05:58
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, it seems to be missing from the menu. It's probably installed regardless, but didn't show up due to lack of sound hardware initially. What's the command?05:58
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tonyyarussoOkay, I think I just did something dumb, and need help recovering.  (I'm on my roommate's computer at the moment.)05:58
tonyyarussoI turned off my backlight by mimicking the line I found in the suspend script, I think it was 'sudo vbetool dpms off'.  So then, to turn it back on, I tried to reverse it by hitting the up arrow, backspace three times, then on (effectively 'sudo vbetool dpms on'), then my password.  Now the screen is cycling through colors and I can't do anything.  Please help!05:58
paradizelostdrac|crate: i'll probably be shot for this, but you could possibly try using .... automatix05:58
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Antiquituserg0t_: the gimp can be a little cryptic at times, but once you get to know it, its an awesome tool :)05:59
tristanmikestendhal, sorry afk, i've heard of it05:59
pfhortronI know that command , sometimes I get read errors05:59
kigh_hi05:59
pfhortronmouse stoped again05:59
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, I'm concerned and intrigued. What is automatix?05:59
erg0t_Antiquitus, so it seems05:59
tristanmikeDrakonik, the cd shouldn't be that small05:59
erg0t_Antiquitus, thanks for the help :)05:59
tristanmike!automatix05:59
ubotu[automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.05:59
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kigh_someone know how to disable execshield in dapper? is this bound to the kernel, so do i have to replace it?05:59
stendhaltristanmike,  i didn't find where it is on my computer05:59
stendhalin terminal i type bos06:00
tristanmikeDrakonik, it may just be that the software is too old to handle such a new iso, I'm not absolutely sure, but that file size is incorrect06:00
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, thankfully, that's not installed. I don't think I'll do that. What else would you suggest? I think the both-on-one-drive thing might be the actual cause, here...06:00
DrakonikWell, I'll look for some open-source burning utility on Sourceforge and try it.06:00
Antiquituserg0t_: sure. :)06:01
DrakonikIf I manage to find another CD to burn.06:01
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paradizelostdrac|crate, i'd try using separate controllers then06:01
tristanmikestendhal, it's stratagus releated, a new mission06:01
pfhortronxcdroast can create ISOs06:01
Drac|Crateparadizelost, I'm afraid I'll need to wait until I get my IDE controller card, then. This old Compaq has a retarded BIOS. :\06:01
paradizelostdrac|crate: if you have a pci add-in card, it won't work with just a cdrom on, it usually requires a hard drive on the channel06:01
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paradizelostbut you could put the hard drive on the controller and the cdrom on the onboard06:02
stendhaltristanmike,  do you speak french, i don't understand you ...06:02
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pfhortronHow do create a disk imahe from disk with two volumes on it06:02
Drac|CrateOh no! I only have two IDE slots, and they're both filled! Damn... I need to find a way around this controller problem.06:02
ryanakcais 5gb big enough for swap?06:02
Ngeasily06:02
tristanmikestendhal, no, not in any great ammount06:02
paradizelostdrac|crate how many hard drives do you ahve in the system?06:02
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tristanmikestendhal, "bos" is a new map/level for Stratagus06:02
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dyrneryanakca: way more than you need prob06:02
Ngryanakca: 2*ram is a useful guideline for how much swap to allow, unless you have a tiny or huge amount of ram06:02
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ryanakcaaye... I have 384mb ram06:03
wickersryanakca, 512 megs of swap sould do06:03
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ryanakcaaye06:03
ryanakcaty06:03
slewhi. im running nautilus and trying to change the properties of an .mpg. when i right click the icon and go to Properties, nautilus crashes. is there any way to fix that?06:03
stendhaltristanmike,06:03
stendhalok06:03
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Drac|Crateparadizelost, hopefully you just noticed my message of dismay. Regardless of that, it is unlikely that this computer's BIOS would properly support booting from the card...06:03
sinaduelhello, on k3b when I want to erase a DVD RW do I use quick format? I remember that quick format only erases the TOC or something like that06:03
gnomefreakbrb gonna try this06:04
pfhortronI have a GB of ram06:04
Drac|Crateparadizelost, What is DMA? Should I try disabling it for the harddrive?06:04
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wickersDrac[Server] , no.. it's Direct memory access... and you want it on.06:04
pfhortronDirect memory access DMA06:04
Drac|Cratewickers, alright.06:04
paradizelostdrac|crate:  no, you want dma on, makes things go much faster.   i.e. while watching a dvd-movie it would be jerky without it on06:05
pfhortronemulator refer it alot06:05
pfhortronemulators06:05
Drac|Cratewickers, what would be the consequences of disabling it for the harddrive, though?06:05
dyrneslew: i hate nautilus.. prefer xubuntu's simple file manager or konq to that06:05
wickersslower drive speeds06:05
Drak|HuntingI can burn data to a DVD+R, right?06:05
Drac|CrateHmm..06:05
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xerox_Hello.06:05
paradizelostdrac|crate: your hard drive would run like crap06:05
wickersDrac|Crate, basically you'd put extra load on your CPU to do the same tasks... which makes things slower.06:05
Drac|Crateparadizelost: understood.06:05
tonyyarussoWhy did I have to break something at this time of day?  If it was eight hours from now there would be someone that knew what my stupidity did...06:05
tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, only if your burner supports it06:05
Drak|HuntingHm.06:05
Drak|HuntingYou mean the hardware or the software?06:06
tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, um, usually just the hardware06:06
Drac|Crateparadizelost: you seem to neglect tab completion. Is this voluntary, or have you just forgotten about it? (friendly suggestion)06:07
Drak|HuntingCrap.06:07
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fromvegaI want to setup a webserver with Ubuntu, could you indicate some site about it? What do I need to setup, how to configure new websites, how do configure DNS information and how to secure against network attacks. Thank you!06:07
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varshow do i import firefox settings06:07
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tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, it should say on the front of your dvd burner something like DVD +/-06:07
paradizelostahh.  didn't know about it...06:07
paradizelost:D06:07
paradizelostthanks06:07
sinaduelHow do I burn AVI's onto DVD's so the work on DVD players?06:07
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Drak|HuntingCrapola.06:08
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Drak|HuntingIt only says CD-writer06:08
varswait how do i get the bookmarks?06:08
tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, and you're trying to burn a dvd?06:08
foampeaceSub-process bzip2 received a segmentation fault.06:08
Drak|HuntingIt's the only blank disk I could find.06:08
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Drac|Cratevars: Rename the new file folder to something else in .mozilla/firefox/profiles, then move your old config file into the directory and rename it to the original new profile's name. Alternatively, edit the config file in the same directory to point to your old config.06:08
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foampeace Possible causes are (most likely first):06:09
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Inf3ctedFxHello ppl06:09
foampeace   (1) The compressed data is corrupted, and bzip2's usual checks06:09
foampeace       failed to detect this.  Try bzip2 -tvv my_file.bz2.06:09
LuisBGany ubuntu in powerbook user?06:09
tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, lol, well that's your problem right there. First, you can't read/write dvd's in any "cdrom/writer", second, unless you downloaded a dvd iso, you have to burn the iso to a cd06:09
foampeaceim like now what06:09
Drac|Cratevars: Sorry, I mean move your old config FOLDER into .mozilla/firefox.06:09
Drak|HuntingGrrr...06:09
Drac|Cratevars: Gah! I mean .mozilla/firefox/profiles! Move it to there. Yes.06:10
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labanuxdoes any one can give me suggestion what kind of IDE that i can user to build GUI app on Ubuntu?06:10
Drak|HuntingGRAH!06:10
Drak|HuntingWhy does the universe conspire against me?06:10
tristanmikeDrak|Hunting, yeah, that's pretty frustrating06:10
Drak|HuntingAh well.06:10
Drak|HuntingI'll look for some CDs.06:10
Drac|Cratevars: Sorry about the confusion. I hope you got the right message. >_>06:10
labanuxdoes any one can give me suggestion what kind of IDE that i can user to build GUI app on Ubuntu?06:10
LuisBGI apt-get installed linux-image headers and modules and after I rebooted it crashes at load, and seams like the old kernel doesn't work anymore too :(06:10
foampeaceDrac|Crate: because you believe it to be true. negative anticipation. the opposite of faith06:11
LuisBGlabanux, there is an ide to make gtk guis06:11
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Drac|CrateLuisBG: That's very odd. Have you tried booting in "recovery mode" via the list when pressing Esc when GRUB first starts?06:11
labanuxLuisBG, gtk guis?? what is that?06:11
LuisBGDrac[Server] , not using grub but yaboot, it's in a mac06:11
Drac|Cratefoampeace: Pay closer attention to your tab completion. :P06:12
LuisBGlabanux, know gtk?06:12
djk_anyone familiar with latex?06:12
labanuxLuisBG, Glade?? is this what you mean?06:12
kigh_what is (not does) this "execshield" stuff in dapper drake? is it compiled into the kernel? a module? userspace stuff? what is it? or: (this is what i want) how do i disable it?06:12
LuisBGlabanux, exactly06:12
paradizelostwell, i got my vnc issue resolved...06:12
foampeaceDrac|Crate: ya heheeh06:12
foampeaceim an ass06:12
Inf3ctedFxI have a problem trying to upgrade my sources.list, the message said.. : W: Coulnd't stat sorce package list http://package.freecontrb.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ packages.freecontrb.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 no such file or directory)  what should I do?06:12
paradizelostneeded to install just "vncserver" instead of vnc4server or tightvncserver06:12
LuisBGhow stable is drapper's flight 4 and what does drapper drake mean?06:12
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pinkisntwellwho thinks ubuntu's web fonts look ugly?06:12
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, comment that line out06:13
paradizelostInf3ctedFx: please use pastebin06:13
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Inf3ctedFxok. sorry for the flood06:13
kigh_LuisBG: for me its very stable .. had no issue until now06:13
Drac|Crateparadizelost: congrats. Say, if the BIOS doesn't see the secondary controller port because of BIOS retardedness, does that mean that Linux won't, or will Linux be able to take over control of the board and properly utilize all hardware without BIOS interference?06:13
eXistenZwhy not all the installed packages appear in the menu?06:13
LuisBGkigh_, downloading it because I have to reinstall anyway06:13
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, can you say "non-offical repo"06:13
cvtboudreauxI have a question, would it be possible to shrink my ntfs partition with XP on it (so i can put linux on my laptop) and whats the best tool for this?06:14
kigh_paradizelost: pastebin for one line? :D06:14
labanuxi want to make a gui app, that can easily install on another linux os..06:14
Inf3ctedFxwhat u mean with that tristanmike06:14
LuisBGdoes really apt-get install nvidia-glx install the nvidia driver with 3d acceleration? come from ati, sounds too easy ;)06:14
kigh_LuisBG: then try drake06:14
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labanuxbut i still can't find any good s/w06:14
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, I mean it can give you a whole slew of trouble06:14
kigh_LuisBG: yes it did. :D06:14
LuisBGcvtboudreaux, partition magic but it's danger gander06:14
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LuisBGkigh_, can you promise?06:15
Inf3ctedFxbut why I getting that message? tristanmike ?06:15
GnaLeosorry about that .. damn unstable wireless06:15
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pinkisntwellcvtboudreaux: I did that using ntfsresize and fdisk, booting from the livecd06:15
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labanuxusing glade means using GTk, and gtk is too difficult for me06:15
paradizelostDrac|Crate: sometimes, it can override the bios06:15
paradizelostkigh_: i can get a one-liner to fill the screen...06:15
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, their server may be down, may have changed, the file may be removed06:15
kigh_LuisBG: hm. i do not promise anything, but on this machine, yesterday, apt-get install nvidia-glx && /etc/init.d/gdm restart was anything i had to do06:15
paradizelost:D06:15
willmchi guys, anyone know how to have synaptic automatically expand the 'Terminal' view when applying updates?06:15
prowerHello everyone :> I'm a long-time user of Ubuntu, but I'm a bit concerned about the addition of click-n-run coming in...will that mean that in the future certain packages will only be available for a fee?06:15
LuisBGanybody knows if the airport driver comes native in drapper? it is meant to be one of the upgrades from breezy06:16
cvtboudreauxi was looking at partition magic, laptop came with everything preinstalled (as usual) and id hate to have to reinstall everything06:16
kigh_paradizelost: maybe, but not using the IRC protocol.06:16
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, you should check out "easyubuntu", it uses the plf repos, but is much safer06:16
LuisBGkigh_, hope it's that easy with me06:16
gnomefreakprower: click and run has nothing to do with the gpl06:16
kigh_:D06:16
gnomefreakor the cost06:16
LuisBGanybody uses ubuntu in powerbook/ibook to ask about some performance questions?06:16
davidX-whats a decent gui icq client thats in ubuntu's packagel ist/06:16
prowergnomefreak: Ahh, I see06:16
Inf3ctedFxI have easyubuntu..06:16
davidX-err list :D06:16
LuisBGis there a cputemp app for ppc?06:16
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, oh, is that what's causing the error?06:17
gnomefreakdavidX-: xchat for a gui irc app06:17
tonyyarussoprower: No.  It's not CNR like the other you're thinking of; the functionality is achieved through a tool called gdebi that's just a front-end type thing to dpkg and dependencies.06:17
Inf3ctedFxI already run it.. but now.. should I check easyubuntu often tristanmike ?06:17
willmcdavidX- GAIM06:17
davidX-licq seems to fail on dependancies06:17
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, sure, you can even see what's going on in #easyubuntu06:17
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davidX-willmc: ahh didn't know gaim supported icq now i haven't used linux as a desktop in years :D06:17
Inf3ctedFxnoo, the error is causing becuase I was trying to add some programs and the sinaptic pops up showingme there is some availabel updates..06:17
zachHey all, I got a quesiton for ya... I have been messing with stuff and I can't figure out how to disable tap clicking on my Dell Inspiron 6000's Touchpad06:17
Drac|Cratecvtboudreaux: I think gparted can do this. gparted is available on the LiveCD and is very good at resizing partitions. Just be sure to defrag your zany NTFS partition so that the files aren't scattered everywhere, making the parititon appear a lot fuller than it is.06:17
gnomefreakdavidX-: yes it has a plug in for it iirc06:17
zachDoes anyone know of a way?06:17
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, if you use easyubuntu, then I'd say you would no longer really need the plf line in your source.list06:18
prowertonyyarusso: Ahh, I see...so it won't interfere with synaptic/apt-get06:18
Inf3ctedFxI was trying to make that updates and I get that message06:18
willmcdavidX- it sure does :) !!06:18
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tonyyarussoprower: Nope.06:18
Drak|HuntingGah. I give up. I'll try it again tomorrow, once my brain has recovered.06:18
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, that's why having unoffical repos can break systems06:18
Inf3ctedFxohh oks tristanmike  one thing i'm pretty new with easy ubuntu.. how can I use it???06:18
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, if you don't mind me asking, what's the program you want06:18
Drac|Crateparadizelost: For this "BIOS Override" do I need any kind of special boot commands or some such? The BIOS is so weird on this machine that it probably doesn't even try to use it...06:18
davidX-willmc: awesome thanks!06:18
willmcdavidX- my icq number is in the earlky 9 million!!06:18
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willmcjoined ages ago!!06:19
gnomefreaknickrud: if your here it works :)06:19
urihello all! keep up the good work ubuntu team!06:19
zachI hate touchpads tap ability... Has anyone been able to get it disabled?06:19
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gnomefreakbrb06:19
paradizelostpossibly, but w/o knowing the system intimately, i don't think i could really help you do it.06:19
foampeacedid someone abuse exploits?06:19
willmcso does anyone know how to have synaptic automatically expand the 'Terminal' view when applying updates?06:19
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paradizelostDrac|Crate: possibly, but w/o knowing the system intimately, i don't think i could really help you do it.06:19
Inf3ctedFxI went to APlications/Add Aplications.. and I'm trying to get programs like gnome backer. NU, Best, etc etc etc  tristanmike06:19
huuhuhuAlguem do BRASIL AI????06:20
Drac|Crateparadizelost: What sort of stuff do you need to know about it? I'll be happy to tell any needed details. :)06:20
Inf3ctedFxhuuhuhu: n parla portugues...06:20
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, ok, comment out that line and sudo apt-get update06:20
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LuisBGis there a cputemp app for ppc?06:20
Drac|Crateparadizelost: That is, I'll be happy to tell as much as I actually know about it. I don't know what chipset it uses for IDE and such...06:20
Inf3ctedFxoks tristanmike  thx06:20
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, you don't have any other unoffical repos in there do you?06:20
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kenzoixhi all.....help me, I can't install libc6-dev package06:20
uriI just got a quick question. How do I reconfigure the x server from the command line? (I swapped my HD into an older laptop. And I would like to choose the "framebuffering" option, if my memory serves me correctly, in order to get the gdm to work)06:20
Inf3ctedFxI have no clue.. how can I find out?? tristanmike ?06:20
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, like debian ones06:21
Inf3ctedFxchecking on my sources.list?06:21
tonyyarusso!br06:21
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.06:21
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, you can paste your sources.list on pastebin and I'll have a look06:21
kenzoixIt says that package linux-kernel is not installed06:21
sinaduelHelo, I am inquiring about how to burn AVI's so they are readable on DVD players06:21
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Inf3ctedFxok let me show u give me the address to paste06:21
paradizelostDrac|Crate: I'd almost have to be in front of it...06:21
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kenzoixbut I've installed the linux-kernel-headers package, and it's seems it was installed correctly06:22
tristanmike!tell Inf3ctedFx about pastebin06:22
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, check your pm06:22
Drac|Crateparadizelost: Ah... Well... It might interest you to know that I built it into a milk crate. XP06:22
CelestianpowerCan someone help me with Synaptic please?06:22
paradizelosturi: if iirc, framebuffer is console.  but you can use xorgconfig to change it06:22
chmod775yes sure06:22
tristanmike!helpme06:22
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:22
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paradizelosturi: the X config file that is06:22
eXistenZany good multimedia repos. for downloading w32codecs and such?06:23
chmod775yup !helpme06:23
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chmod775lol06:23
Inf3ctedFxtristanmike:  here u go..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/996406:23
chmod775!w32codec06:23
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:23
sinaduelHello, I am inquiring about how to burn AVI's so they are readable on DVD players06:23
kenzoixhey, no one can help me?06:23
chmod775tell eXistenZ about w32codecs06:23
paradizelostsinaduel: you would need to transcode them to an mpeg format and use a dvd authoring program06:24
kenzoix!msg alsa-source06:24
ubotukenzoix: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:24
Drac|Crateparadizelost: It's an old Compaq, some kind of weird three-plug AT machine. The BIOS has limited options. There is a single 16x CD-ROM drive and a 20GB Maxtor harddrive. There is around 196MB RAM, a mixture of PC66 and PC100. Both IDE drives are on a single cable in the primary controller port. The CD-Rom is the slave drive.06:24
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, yeah, comment out the wine/opera lines, leave soulmachine commented06:24
sinaduelparadizelost: Such as qdvdauthor?06:24
Inf3ctedFxlet me c06:24
paradizelostsinaduel: don't know for sure, i don't do that on a linux box.06:25
uriparadizelost: so xorgconfig will do the trick from the command line? (I have no gdm running on my laptop.)06:25
paradizelostsinaduel: i just know that avi's can't be directly burned and be playable06:25
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, the thing about "non-offical repos" is, they're ok if you trust them but only have them active when you are getting software that is strickly from those, then when you get the stuff, comment them out again, don't leave them active and you should be good to go06:25
Inf3ctedFxok done06:25
paradizelosturi: xorgconfig will re-setup the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file06:25
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Inf3ctedFxoohhh ok tristanmike  can u recomend me a good source.list??06:26
paradizelostDrac|Crate: i think it's just time to upgrade man... ;)06:26
zachHmmm Has anyone here dealt with tapping on a Synaptic Touchpad from a Dell Inspiron 6000?06:26
Inf3ctedFxor do u know where can I go an get more?06:26
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, what you have is ok, stick with that and you'll be fine06:26
GenfooCGIuggg CGI:IRC is annoying -_-06:26
eXistenZwhat's the address of multiverse repos. ?06:26
gnomefreakubotu tell eXistenZ about multiverse06:26
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, just make sure you leave all unoffical repos commented untill you need them06:26
tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, brb06:26
Inf3ctedFxok tristanmike  thx.. now last question how can I operate easyubuntu?06:26
Drac|Crateparadizelost: This isn't my main system. Trust me. I don't have money for another board, and this one fits the crate PERFECTLY. It's just a pet project, really. My question is simple: Will Ubuntu be able to use the CD-Rom drive if the BIOS doesn't see it?06:27
uriparadizelost: I have no program installed called xorgconfig06:27
unclewezterbios must see the device06:27
Drac|Crateunclewezter: Why is that?06:27
unclewezterput the cd on its own cable/port06:27
Drac|Crateunclewezter: Secondary IDE control in the BIOS is broken.06:28
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tristanmikeInf3ctedFx, type "/join #easyubuntu" for all you questions06:28
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defrysk!upgrade06:28
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.06:28
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uncleweztercd on same as hd will slow the whole mess down considerably06:28
paradizelosturi: do you have xorg installed?06:28
p0mppuhi again06:28
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paradizelosturi: or xfree8606:28
Inf3ctedFxok thx again tristanmike06:28
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paradizelostDrac|Crate: some can, some cant06:28
Drac|Crateunclewezter: I noticed, but it's my only option right now. You'd know that if you paid attention.06:28
chmod775!multiverse06:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:28
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p0mppuhas anybody got experience on formatting devices or creating filesystems on them? I have an usb-memory key that claims it's 8MB but it's really 256MB and I'd really like to do something about it..06:29
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Drac|Crateparadizelost: Well, I'll give it a shot. This BIOS was NOT designed to communicate with the OS at all, I'd imagine. I think if Linux can take control of an oversized harddrive after the BIOS boot, it can take control of a CD-ROM drive.06:30
paradizelosturi: because if you have xfree86, it'll be called xf86config06:30
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nickruduri, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:30
uriparadizelost: I have whatever came with the install CD (breezy).06:30
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paradizelosturi: try what nickrud suggested06:31
Drac|CrateWhat is the command for the CD player?06:31
eth0hi, is it worth reading into the more advanced linux commands, or is it all doable in x?06:31
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uriparadizelost: I have no program called "xf86config" either (sorry for the troubles)06:31
doogluswhen I run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in dapper, chroot'ed to an etch partition, my desktop wallpaper gets replaced with weird pictures.  should I report that against dapper or etch?06:31
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Drac|Crateeth0: It's all doable in X, but all the same, it's good to learn if you ever want to tweak your system to the ultimate configuration.06:32
Sincopshi all! i'm looking for a way to update my site code without having to download and upload all the files manually. any help would be appriciated :)06:32
lafferpti configured the .htaccess in phpmyadmin dir to prompt for a password but now it returns this error: cannot load mysql extension;06:32
lafferptplease check PHP configuration. what do I do?06:32
eth0Draconicus: i c, thanks :)06:32
nickruddooglus, that is a loaded question :)06:32
cjohnsonI have a Wifi card (a Netgear WG311) which Ubuntu seemingly detected, but it's not picking up any network.  If I do iwlist wlan0 scan, it says no results instantly06:32
eth0Drac|Crate: i c, thanks :)06:32
dooglusnickrud: why?06:32
eth0heh06:32
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paradizelosteth0: i highly recommend becoming familiar with the command line, because what happens when your X isn't working?06:32
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Storkmehow can i send files between my lan computers without having to use SCP? (because SCP needs a password at runtime)06:33
eth0paradizelost: yeah, i guess. if it's just for that thought i'll learn it later06:33
paradizelostStorkme: you could install and configure samba06:33
nickruddooglus, probably dapper, because if it's relevant, they'll forward to upstream06:33
eth0paradizelost: thought/though06:33
paradizelosteth0: then you'll put it off until you need it, then you'll be fuX0red06:33
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HappyFoolStorkme: ssh can use .ssh/authorized_keys and .ssh/id_dsa for automatic authentication06:33
dooglusnickrud: what do you mean by 'loaded question'?06:33
Storkmeparadizelost, what's samba?06:33
HappyFoolStorkme: although leaving .ssh/id_dsa unencrypted is not recommended06:34
paradizelostStorkme: usually used for sharing between windows systems06:34
slewhi. im running nautilus and trying to change the properties of an .mpg. when i right click the icon and go to Properties, nautilus crashes. is there any way to fix that?06:34
urinickrud: OK nick, thanks, I'll give it a shot when I get home.06:34
paradizelostStorkme: think of it as the equivalent filesharing and it doesn't require authentication unless you tell it to.06:34
eth0paradizelost: yeah, i see what ur saying, but it's a lot of work just for that eh06:34
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paradizelosteth0: well, it would be either that or re-install your system...06:34
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eth0paradizelost: yeah that's what i was thinking06:35
paradizelosteth0: for some reason, i get the feeling your rather new to *nix06:35
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eth0paradizelost: yeah, im pretty new, i'd rather get on with learning c for now tho06:35
paradizelosteth0: because it can be a pain in the @$$ to get everything back the way you had it.06:35
Zjm7891Is it possible on 2.6 to disable tapping for a touchpad?06:35
eth0paradizelost: yeah, true06:35
willmcahh the tapping!06:36
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Zjm7891Yessums its horrible!06:36
paradizelosteth0: sometimes, you'll need to know command line to get stuff working properly in C, or parsing error logs06:36
DanEaglesHey guys.  I'm having a major problem with Ubuntu today. lol06:36
Zjm7891I move my mouse around and it just randomly switches focus!06:36
eth0paradizelost: oh really, i didn't know that06:36
Drac|Crateeth0: No problem. A friendly tip, by the way: Try to cut down on the chatspeak usage. It's kind of a self-degrading, if you know what I mean.06:36
eth0Draconicus: chatspeak?06:36
paradizelosteth0: the biggies are going to be grep, less, vi, cat06:36
eth0Drac| chatspeak?06:36
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lafferpti configured the .htaccess in phpmyadmin dir to prompt for a password but now it returns this error: cannot load mysql extension;06:37
paradizelosteth0: you can cat /var/log/messages|grep whateveryouarelookingfor06:37
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Drac|Crateeth0: Using "c" and "u" and "y" in place of "see" "you" and "why" :P06:37
eth0paradizelost: ahh, i c, no i already know the basic commands06:37
Sincopshi all! i'm looking for a way to update my site code without having to download and upload all the files manually. any help would be appriciated :)06:37
paradizelosteth0: it's not difficult to learn either.06:37
eth0drac|: oh ok :)06:37
eth0bah06:37
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DanEaglesOk, here's the problem.  I attempted to run Ubuntu (Intel x86) on my Compaq Presario V2000 Laptop.  It has an AMD Sempron 32-bit Processor.  Anyways, when the cool little ubuntu-logo comes up after you log in with the user account, it freezes the machine completely...mouse doesn't move and the only way to shut down is a hard reset.  What could be wrong?06:37
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Drac|CrateWith ADHD C is nearly impossible to learn. X_x06:38
eth0paradizelost: yeah, i know all the basics, just wondered if it's worth getting to an advanced level06:38
p0mppumaybe I just have to believe this usb memory stick is really broken..I can't even create partitions on the 8M it says it has "unpartitioned"06:38
eth0on command-line06:38
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paradizelosteth0: i would recommend learning perl, it's good on both windows and linux, can be used for shell scripting, writing gui's, etc...06:38
Drac|Cratep0mppu: What'd you do to it? :P06:38
eth0paradizelost: i've got quite a way into c06:38
trappistditto for ruby, except ruby's better ;)06:38
p0mppuDrac|Crate: put it in a Windows machine06:38
p0mppu:)06:38
eth0paradizelost: well not that far06:38
paradizelosteth0: and it's easier than C, becasue you have scalars, denoted by $, arrays denoted by @, and hashes.06:38
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Oh noes! :P06:39
fateminasabHow can i disappear update icon?06:39
p0mppuit seems to have destroyed it, and shrank it's size from 256M to 8M06:39
p0mppu:(06:39
p0mppuso typical windoze06:39
Drac|CrateIndeed.06:39
DanEagles*pokes someone*06:39
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eth0paradizelost: yeah, i know that c isn't the easiest06:39
paradizelosteth0: you don't have to declare variables to be integer, etc....06:39
Zjm7891Hey atleast windoze will let me disable tapping on my touchpad!06:39
eth0paradizelost: i see06:39
gnomefreakfateminasab: to remove update notifier right click on it and remove from panel06:39
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Are you sure you didn't accidentally cram the thing into a firewire port or something?06:39
paradizelostif you go to my site, http://www.paradizelost.net  i have some scripts there you could reference if you are interested06:40
DanEaglesOk, here's the problem.  I attempted to run Ubuntu (Intel x86) on my Compaq Presario V2000 Laptop.  It has an AMD Sempron 32-bit Processor.  Anyways, when the cool little ubuntu-logo comes up after you log in with the user account, it freezes the machine completely...mouse doesn't move and the only way to shut down is a hard reset.  What could be wrong?06:40
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p0mppuDrac|Crate: no, how could I put an usb stick into a firewire port? :)06:40
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eth0paradizelost: me?06:40
Drac|Cratep0mppu: I dunno... Do you have any magnets in your pockets? XP06:40
paradizelosteth0: yah06:40
p0mppuDrac|Crate: no I don't :)06:40
p0mpputhis thing sucks06:40
p0mppuand what I got from google was "it happens"06:41
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Did you sit on top of a guitar amp while playing?06:41
paradizelosthttp://www.paradizelost.net/plog/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=106:41
p0mppudid I what?06:41
p0mppu:D06:41
paradizelostis the section you'd want to be in06:41
jmartinieth0: You might also look at python since its ported to windows and *nix and is a pretty full featured scripting / glue language06:41
JhairDanEagles: does that laptop have an ATI graphics card?06:41
fateminasabWhen i right click on it there is no "remove from panel"06:42
DanEaglesJhair: Yes it does.06:42
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Just checking every possible scenerio. USB sticks are pretty tough these days, and I don't see how Win2k or higher could screw it up... Win98 with drivers, though...06:42
phil500could someone help me with this wlan thing? got so far that iwconfig gives me a signal level, but i cant get any acces point.06:42
JhairDanEagles: do you use the ATI propietary driver? or the xorg free source driver?06:42
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p0mppuDrac|Crate: well that's the situation :D06:42
p0mppu98SE06:42
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eth0jmartini: i think imma stick with c for now, might learn python later though06:42
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paradizelostp0mppu: make sure the stick doesn't have a secure partition on it, some of the sticks have a password protected secure area06:42
DanEaglesJhair: Right now I'm assuming is the propietary driver--I'm running Windows XP Home edition right now--the driver is from a support CD which came with the system.06:42
gnomefreakfateminasab: are you talking about the lil red circle in top right hand corner of gnome desktop06:43
jmartiniphil500: make sure you're spelling the ssid correctly. I fought with mine for hours before I spotted a typo in the ssid06:43
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eth0paradizelost: are they perl scripts?06:43
paradizelosteth0: yep06:43
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KuDeTahey06:43
iGotNoTimedoes anyone here have problems with Skype ending the call after just a few seconds?06:43
phil500thanx i posted a thread here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=809586&postcount=406:43
p0mppuDrac|Crate: anyway, from Google I found pages telling me it happens on win2k at least too..screwing up usb sticks06:43
KuDeTahow do i eidt the etc/network/interface file06:43
paradizelosteth0: some have been made into a .exe for windows with par06:43
KuDeTai tried sudo edit <file>06:43
eth0paradizelost: ok, thanks :)06:43
Zjm7891KuDeTa: sudo nano <file>06:43
KuDeTakk06:43
fateminasabyes06:43
gnomefreaksudo gedit :)06:43
paradizelosteth0: if it's in the MB's then its an exe06:43
Zjm7891nano =P06:43
rumburacksome suggestion on program to speak via local lan between ubuntu and windoze ?06:43
Storkmeparadizelost, is there like a command line version of samba?06:44
gnomefreakfateminasab:  give me a min ill go back into gnome06:44
JhairDanEagles: I know about issues with ATI cards + propietary drivers + AMD64 systems, but it could be that i386 systems are also affected. Could you try using06:44
JhairOption "NoAccel" "true"06:44
eth0paradizelost: if i learn a secondary language it would probably be c++/perl06:44
Jhairin your xorg.conf configuration file?06:44
iGotNoTimerumburack, USB drive :P06:44
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Well, 98SE was a little better at handling USB sticks, but not high-capacity ones like that. It's probably Windows' fault... Have you tried mounting it from command line without the help of fstab? "mount /dev/sda1 -t usbfs /media/usb" (mkdir /media/usb/ if it doesn't already exist)06:44
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Drac|Cratep0mppu: Also try sdb1, sdc1 and soforth.06:44
DanEaglesJhair: Last time I attempted that, I couldn't get to a runlevel--it froze when I tried.06:44
paradizelostStorkme: samba is a service.  you would configure it, start the service, then just mount the //ip.ad.dr.ess/share to a location on the system you wanted access to06:45
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paradizelostStorkme: then you would just copy stuff to that location06:45
paradizelostStorkme: think of it like mapped network drives in windwos06:45
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paradizelosteth0: they are very similar06:45
JhairDanEagles: oh well, I ran out of ideas, but it seems to be a problem with the graphic card indeed... those freezes but I could be wrong06:45
p0mppuDrac|Crate: hey it seems to have mounted it :o06:45
p0mppubut what the heck06:45
DanEaglesJhair: May I send you a pvt message?06:45
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p0mppu001  002  003  004  005  devices06:45
p0mppuis the contents06:45
p0mppu?06:45
Zjm7891Whats the easiest way to kill Ubuntu?06:46
eth0eth0: c++ and perl?06:46
paradizelostDanEagles: does it do it if you boot to a livecd?06:46
Zjm7891Just totally trash it?06:46
Zjm7891I think I'll just do that then deal with the random clicking06:46
paradizelostZjm7891: what do you mean to kill ubuntu?06:46
eth0paradizelost: c++ and perl?06:46
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paradizelosteth0: yep06:46
Drac|Cratep0mppu: Ooh... that's not the right device. I had the same issue with an mp3 player. Try sdb1 and soforth.06:46
chmod775!plokadots06:46
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod77506:46
eth0paradizelost: oh, didn't know that06:46
paradizelostZjm7891: you could just dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda106:46
iGotNoTimeZjm7891, by letting me install programs on your box :P06:46
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Zjm7891paradizelost:Well its useless to me I can't use it with the touchpad I have(touchpad goes crazy)06:46
paradizelosteth0: syntax is very similar06:46
AbsortoHello! How can I tell wich package conains a certain file? say, /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile06:47
Zjm7891iGotNoTime: lol That COULD work I guess =P06:47
rumburacki still cant hear two sources of sound on my ubuntu desktop; i have tried some guide on ubuntuforums.org for alsa, but no result; know anyone good guide ?06:47
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p0mppuDrac|Crate: well it should be the right one according to dmesg?06:47
p0mppustill I get the same contents06:47
iGotNoTimeZjm7891, I have alot of skills in the area of crashing the system :)06:47
paradizelostZjm7891: you could also do an rm -Rf /06:47
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paradizelostZjm7891: scuse me, sudo rm -Rf /06:48
Zjm7891paradizelost: Good fix =P06:48
p0mppubut the size of the mountdirectory is 006:48
jbroomeOH GOD MY SYSTEM!06:48
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Zjm7891paradizelost: However, do you know of a way to disable tapping on my touchpad?06:48
p0mppuDrac|Crate: are you sure usbfs is the right fs type?06:48
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swizzleDoes anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu?06:49
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Drac|Cratep0mppu: I dunno about dmesg. I never checked that with mine. Um... And yes, usbfs is definitely the right system type for USB flash memory. It stands for "usb filesystem" - you wouldn't want anything else. :P06:49
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Drac|Cratejbroome: Eh?06:49
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p0mppuDrac|Crate: I've used vfat successfully this far?06:50
swizzleDoes anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu?06:50
gnomefreakfateminasab: if the red light is in corner that means you have updates and i would run the updates06:50
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Drac|Cratep0mppu: Oh... well.. vfat is if it's formatted under Windows. I suppose that might work as an alternative. Give it a try.06:50
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Jhairswizzle: sleep ?06:51
Drac|Cratejbroome: It's never good to flip out over what could very likely be a simple mistake somewhere. :P06:51
swizzlesleep?06:51
p0mppuDrac|Crate: well it doesn't contain a readable fat filesystem so I cannot use vfat..but should usbfs work too?06:51
paradizelostZjm7891: nope.  i usually leave it on.06:51
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Jhairswizzle: you can use sleep as counter06:51
foampeacewill we see the latest blender and yafray in the next release which is when06:51
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swizzleJhair: can it do long range dates, like countdown to june 1706:52
cjunerHi there... I'd like to keep my home directory under version control. Any tips? For example which version control system to use? I have some expierence with Subversion and like it for source code management but on the downside - it's simply not made for large files and BerkelyDB (it's backend) is known for easily allowing corruption (at least I heard so). Any ideas?06:52
fateminasabbut how i can disappear that?06:52
lafferptI can't remove phpmyadmin06:52
Drac|Cratep0mppu: We're talking about two completely different filesystems, here. If it's not one, it's the other, so it must be usbfs. I'd try vfat for every special device (sd*), first, though. Try sda1, then sdb1, and soforth. Also try sda2 and such with usbfs, though it's unlikely that the device has two partitions..06:52
lafferptit returns an error!06:52
gnomefreakfoampeace: next release is april 20th and packages.ubuntu.com can tell you what version of blender will be in it06:52
fateminasabwithout updating06:52
gnomefreakfateminasab: if you do the updates it will go away06:52
gnomefreakohhhhh06:53
Storkmeparadizelost, i have no idea what mounted network drives in windows are :| but, is there any way to xfer files without having to run a new process?06:53
gnomefreakfateminasab: when you right click on it it should have a remove from panle choice06:53
paradizelostwithout SCP, or using the GUI and browsing to a samba share, no06:53
foampeacegnomefreak: next month...is it dapper?06:53
gnomefreakpanel even06:53
gnomefreakfoampeace: yes06:53
foampeacecool06:54
foampeacegnomefreak: is there a prerelease?06:54
swizzleDoes anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu that displays the time on the GNOME Panel??06:54
nickrud!flight06:54
ubotunickrud: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:54
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gnomefreakfoampeace: right now its in last flight until beta at the end of this month06:54
fateminasaball the other icons have but not this one06:54
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gnomefreaknickrud: it worked you will have fun with it06:54
p0mppuDrac|Crate: nope, no luck :/ I wonder how Windows can destroy that memory stick that completely06:55
Drac|CrateWhat is the actual command for the GNOME CD player?06:55
nickrudgnomefreak, e17? great!06:55
paradizelostp0mppu: what type of usb stick is it/06:55
gnomefreakfateminasab: im not sure people have done it06:55
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Drac|Cratep0mppu: It really seems unlikely that Windows murdered it. I think paradizelost knows more about it than I do at this point, though.06:55
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p0mppuparadizelost: a normal 256MB usb flash memory stick?06:55
nickrudubotu flight is for info on the dapper flight prereleases, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTeam?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dapperflight&titlesearch=Titles06:55
ubotunickrud: okay06:56
gnomefreaknickrud: after you download enlightenment-data nd enlightenment (they may not install do to conflic with eachother  just run sudo apt-get -f install and it will set up both of them :)06:56
devlinOne quick question... How difficult is it to setup Ubuntu in a dualboot w/ XP? its currently running on its own system but I want to run it dualboot on my main system.....06:56
paradizelostp0mppu: there's no such thing as "normal".  lots of them support secure partitions06:56
nickrudgnomefreak, thanks06:56
gnomefreak!flight406:56
ubotuflight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight406:56
AbsortoIf one wants to find out which package contains a certain file, one way to go about it is:  dpkg -S yourfile :D06:56
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p0mppuparadizelost: I don't think this one does :) it was a cheap one06:56
paradizelostp0mppu: for example, Lexar Jump Drive Secure06:56
paradizelostp0mppu: or LG drives06:56
swizzleDoes anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu that displays the time on the GNOME Panel??06:56
paradizelosttry doing a cfdisk /dev/sd## and see how many partitions are on it06:56
gnomefreakswizzle: synaptic06:57
paradizelostp0mppu: try doing a cfdisk /dev/sd## and see how many partitions are on it06:57
swizzlei looked there, but i couldn't find anything that matched06:57
gnomefreaksearch for timers or something like that06:57
paradizelostdevlin: just install ubuntu into free space on the drive, and ubuntu will do the rest.06:57
swizzlei seached in name and description06:57
fateminasabwhen i right click there is only "show updates", "install all updates", "package manager" , " update package list now"06:57
paradizelostdevlin: you just need to make sure you have some unpartitioned space06:57
Drac|Cratedevlin: If Windows XP isn't on there now and you want to have a dual boot, you either need a second harddrive or you need to completely reformat with Windows, and then resize the Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu. There is a third, more complicated option that I've thought of, but these are the two standard procedures.06:58
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gnomefreakfateminasab: is there a reason you dont want to run the updates?06:58
gnomefreaknickrud: without updating how do you remove the red icon?06:58
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nickrudgnomefreak, phone (sorta at work)06:58
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gnomefreakah06:59
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p0mppuparadizelost: gives me a big error :)06:59
fateminasabI had a 56K dial up internet06:59
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paradizelostp0mppu: what kind of error?06:59
linux06hello...06:59
p0mppuoh no06:59
CelestianpowerHi, can anyone help me with Synaptic?06:59
p0mppusorry06:59
nickrudtelemarketer06:59
nickrudswizzle, timer-applet06:59
p0mppuparadizelost: "Unknown partition table."06:59
binahow do you turn off this autoload thing in KDE?07:00
p0mpputhen asks if I want to start with an empty one07:00
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paradizelostp0mppu: if you boot to windows, can you see all of the data on the drive?07:00
gnomefreakCelestianpower: what is wrong with it07:00
binabecause its going a bit crazy for me07:00
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soundray!helpme07:00
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:00
p0mppuparadizelost: nope, on Windows it shows the disk is full, but contains no data07:00
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: Well, it comes up with lots of errors every time I load it07:00
devlinparadizelost: ack.. since it was a WinXp system from the get go of course the whole HD was set for XP. Does Ubuntu install have a non-destructive repartition option as did *cough* Mandrake did?07:00
linux06dhdhgdh07:00
nickrudgnomefreak, remove update-notifier07:00
tristanmikeCelestianpower, what kinds of errors ?07:00
Celestianpowertristanmike: I pastebind it07:01
gnomefreakCelestianpower: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin07:01
CelestianpowerI'll find it07:01
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gnomefreakty nickrud07:01
soundraydevlin: yes, it does07:01
gnomefreakfateminasab: in terminal type remove update-notifier07:01
paradizelostdevlin: you'd be better off using something like partition magic07:01
linux06ffjgfj07:01
paradizelostp0mppu: then it looks like everything is gone from it, you could just reformat it completely07:01
devlinThanks soundray :) Looks like Ubuntu will be on the good puter w/ in the hour!07:01
soundrayparadizelost: no, the Ubuntu installer is more reliable than Partition Magic for this particular task.07:01
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gnomefreaktristanmike: if i had to guess they are repo errors07:02
tristanmikeCelestianpower, where's the link....?07:02
Celestianpowertristanmike: Just finding it07:02
p0mppuparadizelost: ok..so a simple question: how do I do it? :) I'd need to format it to be 256M, not the 8M it shows up as now07:02
tristanmikegnomefreak, yeah, good guess for sure07:02
soundrayAnd Partition Magic is closed source anyway07:02
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paradizelostp0mppu: if you dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd##  you can write zero's to the drive, then try running cfdisk07:02
mikeloanybody know how to configure intel graphics cards?07:02
devlinbbl07:02
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nickrudgnomefreak, doh fateminasab sudo aptitude remove update-notifer :)07:02
paradizelostp0mppu: it sounds like the parition table got screwed.  writing zero's should help07:02
eXistenZI installed eboard but it doesn't appear in the games section, why is this?07:03
p0mppuparadizelost: it seems it stops writing zero's after the 8M?07:03
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gnomefreaknickrud: close enough07:03
paradizelostp0mppu: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd#07:03
lamp_in found on the ubuntu site that flight 5 is released but i can't donwload it.07:03
paradizelostdon't put the partition number after07:03
paradizelostp0mppu: don't put the partitin number afeter07:03
Protocol1can someone help me get an onboard intel graphics card work properly with opengl?07:03
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nickrudeXistenZ, eboard doesn't have a proper destop definition, so it doesn't go into the menu. You can add it manually with Apps->System Tools->Menu Editor07:04
Protocol1right now it runs really choppy07:04
p0mppuparadizelost: I did that (without any partition numbers)..it tells me there's no space left on the drive (though there really should be 256-8 MB)07:04
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: how long ago did you paste it07:04
paradizelostp0mppu: that means that it went until the end.07:04
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yesterday, asd Celestianpower07:04
netllamahi07:04
paradizelosttry doing a cfdisk now, and if it asks you if you want to do a new partition table, say yes07:05
p0mppuparadizelost: yeah but it also tells it only wrote 8MB of data07:05
p0mppuinstead of the 25607:05
fateminasabgnomefreak and nickrud : Thank's a lot. It worked07:05
paradizelostp0mppu: do you want this readable in windows?07:05
paradizelostp0mppu: you may want to call the manufacturer and get a replacement...07:05
paradizelostp0mppu: if it's still under warranty07:05
netllamaanyone here know much about how the installer works?07:05
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nickrudfateminasab, be aware, that probably removed ubuntu-desktop ; you'll want that re-installed before you upgrade to dapper in april07:06
fateminasabThanks a lot. It worked07:06
paradizelostnetllama: are you talking about apt, synaptic, the ubuntu installer, what?  more info please07:06
p0mppuparadizelost: I'm not sure about the warranty..but it's really all the same whether or not it's readable under windows, the point is, I would like to get it readable under something :)07:06
netllamaparadizelost: ubuntu installer07:06
paradizelostnetllama: k. not me.07:06
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paradizelostwell, time to go grab a bite to eat.07:06
netllamaparadizelost: ok.  i can't seem to find anyone, anywhere that knows anything about it.07:06
gnomefreakCelestianpower: can you paste your sources.list file on pastebin please07:06
netllamai've tried the mailing list, the forums, and now here07:06
Celestianpowergnomefreak and tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/992607:07
p0mppuoh and paradizelost cfdisk seems to be unable to create anything on the disc :(707:07
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paradizelostnetllama: try contacting the developers via email.07:07
p0mppu:/07:07
paradizelostp0mppu: the disk is hosed...07:07
gnomefreakim looking at 992707:07
LuisBGis there a cputemp app for ppc?07:07
netllamaparadizelost: ok.  whidh devs would i contact?07:07
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paradizelostnetllama: not a clue07:07
paradizelostnetllama: ;)07:07
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: run in terminal sudo apt-get update07:07
Celestianpowergnomefreak: I did07:08
netllamaparadizelost: tis ok.  i think this explains alot of the probloems.  no one seems to be maintaining the installer as far as i can tell07:08
gnomefreaklet me know what kind of output it gives you07:08
CelestianpowerI'll pastebin the result07:08
fateminasabnickrud: how can i reinstall it?(not for now)07:08
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nickrudfateminasab, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop07:08
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gnomefreakanyone using the us repos in here?07:08
fateminasabnickrud: Thanks07:08
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers07:08
prowerHmm...another quick question, does Ubuntu (or Linux in general) support ufs2 partitions?07:08
Drac|CrateWhat is the actual command for the CD player?07:08
nickrudgnomefreak, me07:09
Celestianpowergnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/996607:09
gnomefreaknickrud: are they down?07:09
nickrudchecking07:09
gnomefreakty07:09
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: are you sure you dont have the cdrom repo in your sources.list file?07:10
corona1does anyone know how to arrange folders in thunderbird?07:10
nickrudgnomefreak, an update just worked07:10
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yes07:10
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gnomefreakty nickrud07:10
soundrayLuisBG: I'd like to know that, too... Have you stfw?07:10
Celestianpowergnomefreak: I copied it exactly07:10
prowerI've been using FreeBSD for quite a while, and it's a top notch operating system :> Ubuntu seems to fit my personal use better, however, although I have had zero issues with FreeBSD 6.0 itself07:10
gnomefreakCelestianpower: try taking the country code out completely07:11
tristanmikeCelestianpower, did you add the keys ?07:11
Celestianpowertristanmike: What do you mean?07:12
gnomefreaktristanmike: you shouldnt need to with offical repos07:12
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: are you using a proxy by chance?07:12
tristanmikegnomefreak, perhaps07:12
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: I don't think so07:13
eXistenZgnomefreak, have you got windows installed in your computer?07:13
gnomefreakeXistenZ: yes07:13
tristanmikeCelestianpower, are you in the uk ?07:13
SoulPropagationfor some reason, my desktop keeps freezing up and i can't do anything about it except cut the power and reboot07:14
Celestianpowertristanmike: Yes07:14
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Celestianpowertristanmike: I  just removed the country codes07:14
gnomefreakCelestianpower: take the country code out of the repos and try it please07:14
SoulPropagationand this seems to have started after i installed (via apt) xfce4 stuffs07:14
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tristanmikeCelestianpower, did it work ?07:14
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Just did07:14
gnomefreakCelestianpower: now run apt-0get update07:14
frank23SoulPropagation: do you have an amd64 processor?07:14
gnomefreakapt-get update even07:14
gnomefreakeXistenZ: why?07:14
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Still gives the same response07:14
SoulPropagationfrank23: pentium 307:14
cwillupardon a moment of heresy07:15
warrenganybody run ubuntu on a server? i'm currently using debian, but the ubuntu packages have more of the versions i need..... thoughts? i don't need X or gnome or anything...07:15
eXistenZgnomefreak, I thought you found ubuntu as a complete alternative for windows07:15
SoulPropagationCelestianpower: he means apt-get update07:15
eth0hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?07:15
gnomefreakeXistenZ: i did07:15
cwilluanybody know of a way to make tab completion (or even the whole shell) case insensitive?07:15
SoulPropagationwarreng: yeah, ubuntu servers are awesome07:15
gnomefreaki have it installed not for me for others in house07:15
cwillunot talking about the filesystem itself, just my interface to it07:15
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nickrudcwillu, no07:15
warrengSoulPropagation: can you tell me more?07:15
tristanmikeCelestianpower, try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" wait 10 minutes and try again07:15
warrengi run ubuntu on my desktop and like it... and debian on servers....07:15
SoulPropagationcwillu: well you can do stuff like grep -i07:15
nickrudcwillu, well, completion maybe, it's just bash scripting07:15
nickrud*just, lol07:16
SoulPropagationwarreng: it works like your basic server; if you know your bash you'll be fine07:16
tristanmikeCelestianpower, don't worry about the error you get, it's normal07:16
gnomefreaklol07:16
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gnomefreakhes getting used to them07:16
warrengSoulPropagation: how do you install ubuntu without all the X/gnome/kde stuff?07:16
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tristanmikegnomefreak, lol, yeah, but at least this one is ok :P07:16
HymnToLifewarreng> server install07:16
prowerHow is the AMD64 distribution of Ubuntu with regard to stability? I'm also considering investing in some new hardware so it'd be nice to know in advance what people are working with :>07:16
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SoulPropagationwarreng: at the install prompt type server*enter*07:16
cwillusweet07:17
HammerO.o07:17
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HappyFoolwarreng: get 'ubuntu 5.10 server edition' (separate ISO)07:17
cwillubind "set completion-ignore-case on"07:17
warrengSoulPropagation: hah.. nice07:17
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Hammero.O07:17
Hammer!botsnack07:17
ubotu:)07:17
nickrudcwillu, where!07:17
cwilluit's an osx tip that works here too :)07:17
SoulPropagationcwillu: SWEET.07:17
SoulPropagationthat is so going in my .bashrc07:17
cwilluput it in bash.bashrc and it'll be system wide :)07:17
frank23prower: stability is ok. the problem is flash, multimedia codecs, proprietary software, etc07:17
SoulPropagation!cwillusnack07:18
ubotuSoulPropagation: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:18
cwilluI'd almost suggest that it should be the default;  huge ease of use gain for non-geek users07:18
robinl1hey, can i spam for something?07:18
prowerfrank23: Oh, I see...so win32codecs don't work with 64-bit players, I'm guessing07:18
nickrudcwillu, I've seen that asked about many times, finally there's an answer07:18
willmcI must say I LOVE ubuntu :)07:18
cwilluheh07:18
tristanmikeno spam07:18
cwillutwo seconds on google :)07:18
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cwillu!paste07:18
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.07:18
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SoulPropagationand a huge pain-in-the-ass loss for everyone07:18
prower(Flash isn't a huge problem, it irritates me enough that I tend not to install it ;>)07:18
cwilluhowever, I've done that search I don't know how many times :)07:18
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robinl1hmm.. cuz it's a really cool project i'm working on which has to do with extending ubuntu07:19
robinl1not by looks but by usefulnes07:19
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cwillurobin|1, use the paste bin and message the link07:19
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robinl1cwillu: ok07:19
frank23prower: well there are ways to make 32bit software work but I just run i386 ubuntu even though I have a AMD64 processor07:19
tristanmikei think it would be great for -offtopic07:19
jindDoes anybody know if 3com wireless cardbus cards have real linux drivers?07:19
cwilluor was that robinI107:19
cwillurobinl1?07:19
robinl1tristanmike: i announced it there too07:19
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robinl1cwillu: hmm?07:19
Celestianpowertristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9967 is the response07:19
cwillutrying to spell your name :p07:19
robinl1lol07:20
tristanmikeCelestianpower, is that after the command I gave you ?07:20
prowerfrank23: Ahh, that's true...perhaps I'll just do it that way, and wait on going fully 64 bit until it's well established07:20
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Celestianpowertristanmike: No, after trying apt-get update again07:20
SoulPropagationhas anyone experienced random hangs (like, system is about 4% of its normal speed and you have to cut the power to get it to respond)?07:20
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tristanmikeCelestianpower, please try the command, wait 10 minutes and try and update again07:21
Alapzajhy! HOw to make initrd with ubuntu 5.10 breezy? I don't found mkinitrd...07:21
Celestianpowertristanmike: I did - that was the response07:21
robinl1i'm gonna make a site for it, along with the notes i jotted down07:21
frank23prower: that's what I'm doing. I'll wait until its possible to transparently install 32bit programs in ubuntu64 before I switch07:21
CelestianpowerOh 10 minutes07:21
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prowerAfter saying that, however, for anyone who hasn't used FreeBSD before, I'd highly recommend giving it a look :> It's not nearly as easy to get going as Ubuntu (more on the level of Gentoo), but it makes both a great desktop and server OS in my experience07:21
CelestianpowerOkay07:21
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tristanmikeCelestianpower, yes07:21
CelestianpowerSorry07:21
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tristanmikeCelestianpower, no worries :)07:21
eth0hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?07:22
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prowerfrank23: That sounds like a good idea :> I'm not in too much of a hurry to upgrade just yet anyway...the P4 I have now could still get a good boost if I upgraded some of the hardware07:22
cwillusoulpropogation, running the standard firefox or mozilla?07:22
gnomefreakCelestianpower: once you get it set up right its really not07:22
tristanmikeCelestianpower, no, it's new, different, and not windows, did you pick up windows and go "I am now a Master of Windows!" ?07:22
gnomefreaktristanmike: i did :(07:22
gnomefreaklol07:22
robinl1http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/07:22
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Well, it took an awful long time to get the internet to work07:22
cwillutristanmike; I did too :)07:22
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tristanmikeyou guys all suck :P07:23
Protocol1my direct rendering is disabled....how would I go about enabling it?07:23
jetscreameruse windows if it's better for you07:23
cwillusoulpropogation, you there?07:23
Celestianpowertristanmike: lol07:23
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Celestianpowerjetscreamer: Nah - too expensive and unethical07:23
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CelestianpowerI don't mind the hassle so long as there are nice people here to help me07:23
gnomefreaki like a challenge and truthfully bsd gave me more of a challenge than linix07:23
gnomefreaklinux07:24
warrengHappyFool: where do you see "ubuntu 5.10 server edition" ?07:24
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prowerIt's surprising that Ubuntu has come so far along and gotten to the point that it's at today...when it first came out I never would have expected it would have gotten to be such a huge, all-encompassing project07:24
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frank23prower: I don't know if its still true but AMD64 processor used to be better at running x86 code than equivalent intel processors. (not all programs, but most) but if the upgrade is just to switch to a 64bit environment, you can wait07:24
Celestianpowerjetscreamer: lol07:24
gnomefreakprower: its the fastest growing distro07:24
HappyFoolwarreng: just a sec07:24
Protocol1how would I go about checking my 3d setup for my video card?07:24
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cwilluhmm, that's annoying07:24
warrengHappyFool: found it.. nevermind :)07:24
prowerfrank23: Ahh, yes...that's more or less the only reason to upgrade just yet really, to be in the loop :P07:24
squirrelstylehas anyone had problems with kernal-headers not showing up in /usr/src after upgrading kernal to 2.6.12 when using package manager07:25
prowerProbably best to wait on it a while07:25
warrenghttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntu-server/5.10/07:25
cwillunothing to do with ubuntu, but ctrl+z in gaim on windows minimizes...07:25
prowergnomefreak: That's the impression that I've been getting, and it's quite impressive considering the limited resources there are to work with07:25
GTXGuys, I installed some things on my computer and now allways startup on start which I dont want, Ive managed to remove some, but then when I shut the pc down it trys to close them when there not open, how do I remove what it shuts down on shutdown07:25
robinl1cwillu: myeah, sucks07:25
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gnomefreakyes it is but just wait till the 6.10 release ;)07:25
nickrudGTX, that depends on what it is, and where it's started07:26
jetscreamerwhy would the kernel headers magically show up07:26
warrengwhen's the next ubuntu release scheduled? and will that include an ubuntu-server edition?07:26
[D-Coy] AdamAnybody having trouble booting Dapper live?07:26
pedroHi, is it planned RSS on Evolution ?07:26
jetscreamerapt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`07:26
HappyFoolwarreng: the iso has architecture specific kernels, also apache and other server programs not on the normal ubuntu cd (i hope that's all correct); it does use the same packages as normal ubuntu (i.e., same package repositories)07:26
cwillu6.04 is a strong hint07:26
prowergnomefreak: That's what I'm looking forward to...it seems that there's always something impressive that's done with each new release :>07:26
cwilluit's 2006, the 4th month :p07:26
gnomefreakwarreng: they all have server install07:26
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HappyFoolwarreng: fwiw, here's the announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html07:26
squirrelstylei m trying to load vmware on a new install of 5.1007:27
frank23gnomefreak: prower: maybe that's what when happens when a distro is headed by a philantropic billionaire07:27
pedroAny Evolution expert ?07:27
cwilluas opposed to merely a 10's of million-aire (jwz)07:27
prowerfrank23: That's true...not important who the money comes from really, so long as it gets to the right places ;>07:27
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jetscreamerapt-get remove --purge evo...07:28
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gnomefreakpedro: please tell us your issue if noone can answer it there are places we can send you07:28
gnomefreaklol jet07:28
gnomefreakaltho i agree07:28
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squirrelstylejetscreamer --- merci07:28
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pedroyes, i'd like to know if RSS reader is planned to Evolution07:28
tonyyarussoWhat's the command to turn off the backlight of the screen?07:29
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gnomefreakpedro: that question may be bettered answered in #evolution (if you are talking about if rss reader will be in next release07:29
AlapzajHow to make my own initrd?07:29
prowerHmm...I'm finding myself liking Gnome a lot more as it progresses, too :> I still use KDE as my main desktop but it's becoming improved enough that it's worth looking at07:30
DaNeonmkinitrd07:30
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squirrelstylejetscreamer --- merci07:30
squirrelstylejetscreamer --- merci07:30
eth0hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?07:30
pedrook, i'll go to #Evo :) Cool! Bye07:30
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tristanmikeprower, i really enjoy using gnome07:30
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cwillueth0, what are you trying to accomplish?07:30
pedro6.04 rules !07:30
jmartinieth0: TCP/IP hasn't changed all that much so I'm sure they're fine07:30
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judgenwhat is the name of the package that contains the freefonts07:30
eth0cwillu: network programming07:31
DaNeonpedro, 6.04 = #ubuntu+107:31
Protocol1does anyone know where the Xserver folder is located?07:31
jetscreamernp squirrelstyle07:31
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cwillumay not cover the latest virtual switching stuff, but that doesn't really affect the programming side07:31
paradizelostProtocol1: /etc/X1107:31
frank23prower: If gnome had a file manager like konqueror, maybe I'd give it a chance again.07:31
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jetscreamer/etc/X11 and then there's the X11R6 or so which is in... i forget but you can do it luke!07:31
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eth0jmartini: k, thanks07:31
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frank23when 6.04 comes out, it will be one year since I completely switched to linux. I switched when hoary came out ;)07:32
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vars_i get this error  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.507:33
cwillu<gripe>and yet it doesn't do completion in the user list</gripe>07:33
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QbYDumb newb question..  How can I burn a CD/DVD with Ubuntu???07:33
cwillusoulpropogation, still there?07:33
AlapzajDaNeon: but i don't have mkinitrd command! In which package can i found?07:33
Protocol1will the latest versions of xserver work with ubuntu 5.1007:33
Protocol1?07:33
NegativeSpaceHi, is there a newbie channel I can join?07:33
tristanmikeQbY, k3b07:33
SoulPropagationhas anyone experienced random hangs (like, system is about 4% of its normal speed and you have to cut the power to get it to respond)?07:33
cwillusoulpropogation07:33
SoulPropagationNegativeSpace: you made it07:33
Celestianpowertristanmike: Same response once again07:33
BobC2Been years since I've chatted on IRC but want to try Linux (Ubuntu) now How do I register my nick here?07:33
cwilluare you running the standard firefox or mozilla?07:33
LuisBGwhat does drapper drake mean?07:33
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cwillusoulpropogation, also, do a 'top' in a terminal and see whats killing you07:34
tristanmikeCelestianpower, let's see your "edited" sources once more07:34
DaNeonsearch for mkinirtd in synaptic07:34
TerminusBobC2: /msg NickServ help07:34
jetscreamerit's a secret07:34
LuisBGBobC2, /msg NickServ REGISTER pass07:34
judgentonyyarusso didnt help me07:34
jetscreamerwe could tell you but then we'd have to kill you07:34
paradizelostProtocol1: you should have xorg-x11 installed already07:34
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NegativeSpaceI made what?07:34
_Felixhello07:34
BobC2Thanks Terminus07:34
cjnodellhey all.07:34
cwillusoulpropogation;  if your using the standard firefox/mozilla, it's got a bad memory leak in the debian versions;  firefox 1.5 or any mozilla.org build work fine07:34
jetscreamer!seen bob207:34
tonyyarussojudgen: Hmm, okay, 1 sec...07:34
ubotujetscreamer: i haven't seen 'bob2'07:34
_Felixsm56.tk -> file doesn't want to compile!07:34
SoulPropagationSoulPropagation: once it hangs, i literally can't do ANYTHING. i can't even ^AltF107:34
cjnodellI have a quick apt question.07:34
judgenwhat is the name of the package tonyyarusso07:34
tristanmikeCelestianpower, i personally haven't seen that error before07:34
frank23LuisBG: dapper drake is the name of the next version of ubuntu07:34
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jetscreamerok now kill him07:34
_FelixHow can I set up myy modem? Please07:35
SoulPropagationcwillu: firefox 1.507:35
cwillu:/07:35
tonyyarussojudgen: Looks like ttf-freefont.07:35
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LuisBGfrank23, yeah I know... but what does it actually mean?07:35
cwilluso that shouldn't be the problem07:35
SoulPropagationwait a sec, why did i just say SoulPropagation? hahaha07:35
cwilluyou did, but I got it anyway :p07:35
nickrudjetscreamer, you miss his snarkiness, too?07:35
Celestianpowertristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/996807:35
cjnodellI am trying to use dokg to install a local file but i have missing dpendencies. Is there a way to find and download all of those dependincies with apt or dpkg?07:35
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cwillusoulpropogation, how often does it happen?07:36
judgentonyyarusso thanks07:36
_FelixP l e a s e !07:36
frank23LuisBG: I think a drake is an animal. dapper is an adjective but I dont' know what it means. It's pretty obscure to me too. Not much better than breezy badger07:36
judgentonyyarusso that was exactly the package i needed07:36
gnomefreaki find it hard to believe im the only one trying to use screem :(07:36
tristanmikeCelestianpower, pardon me for the dumb question, you are on Breezy right ?07:36
LuisBGwhich do you recommend en_US.utf-8 or en_us.iso-8859-1507:36
Celestianpowertristanmike: No idea07:36
tonyyarussocwillu: Do you think the FF memory leak will be fixed in Dapper or some other point in the future, or is it something about making a deb package and it would be better to get it from Mozilla always?07:36
tonyyarussojudgen: Good stuff.07:36
tristanmikeCelestianpower, System - About Ubuntu07:36
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: i think it already has been fixed in dapper07:36
tonyyarussojudgen: For future reference, I just got that from 'apt-cache search freefont'.07:36
cwillutonyyarusso, dapper's running 1.5 by default which I believe doesn't have the problem07:37
paradizelosttonyyarusso: the leak isn't an ubuntu issue, it's a firefox issue07:37
tonyyarussognomefreak: Oh good.07:37
BobC2LuisBG  Ok I'll try that too07:37
cwilluit's actually a problem in debian upstream07:37
paradizelostcwillu: i know the windows version of it has the memory leak in 1.5.0.107:37
tonyyarussocwillu, paradizelost: Got it.07:37
Celestianpowertristanmike: What am I looking for?07:37
paradizelostcwillu: not sure about the linux version07:37
SoulPropagationcwillu: it's SoulPropAgation not SoulPropOgation, btw ... and it happens ... pretty randomly i haven't seen any patter07:37
SoulPropagationn07:37
cwilluparadizelost;  ya, that's not this though;  this was particular to the _debian_ version of the _gtk_ builds07:37
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paradizelostcwillu: k.07:38
tristanmikeCore Components...it should say 5.10 or something else07:38
cwilluSoulPropagation :p07:38
tonyyarussofrank23: Duck.  Shiny, attractive, smooth, slick, fancy.07:38
Celestianpowertristanmike: It says 5.1007:38
cwillugive me a break;  my version of gaim doesn't do nick completion :)07:38
tristanmikecool07:38
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SoulPropagationcwillu: wtf? apt-get upgrade that mofo07:38
tristanmikeCelestianpower, apparently the archives are having some troubles....07:38
cwilluwin32 :p07:38
poingpoingHello any native english speaker here, willing to query me for a quick language question? (Non Ubuntu related)07:38
Celestianpowertristanmike: Oh07:39
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SoulPropagationcwillu: so get the 1.5 .exe07:39
tonyyarussopoingpoing: Ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic.07:39
poingpoingOh thanks!07:39
cwilluSoulPropagation: I'd try leaving a terminal running top with delay set to 1 ('d' + '1')07:39
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cwillujust to see what kills it07:39
tristanmikeCelestianpower, but I'd add the gpg key anyway07:39
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cwilluif it responds at all (even 30 seconds later), you should be able to figure out what's the problem07:39
frank23tonyyarusso: thanks ;)07:39
Celestianpowertristanmike: gpg key?07:39
blue__Hello, does anyone have any information on using Duel Monitors in Ubuntu?07:39
tristanmikeCelestianpower, do you see the 2 lines in your sources.list where it starts "gpg --"07:40
BobC2poingpoing  I'm a native speaker but can't PM ATM07:40
SoulPropagationoh, and sometimes my hdd makes messed up noises07:40
Celestianpowertristanmike: Yes, they're commented out07:40
SoulPropagation/m poingpoing hey07:40
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gnomefreakBobC2: make sure you are registered and identified07:40
tristanmikeCelestianpower, right, that's fine07:40
cwilluSoulPropagation: also, you _might_ want to consider bumping to dapper;  this of course could break absolutely everything, but there's enough changes under the hood that the problem might just disappear.  [disclaimer:  I didn't say anything just now, ok?] 07:40
BobC2Yes I'm working on it gnomefreak thanks!07:40
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Celestianpowertristanmike: So what do I do?07:41
tristanmikeCelestianpower, you run those 2 commands in a terminal, replacing "KEY" with the number you see by "GPG key:"07:41
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Protocol1paradizelost, the question was is it the latest version?07:41
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SoulPropagationcwillu: i have considering it ... btw, does it have XGL/other cool effect things installed by default?07:41
tristanmikeCelestianpower, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5     for instance07:41
cwilluno07:41
SoulPropagationi have been considering it, that is07:41
prowerAlright, time to wipe everything off again and get Ubuntu installed :> Later07:41
cwilluyou can install it easily enough, assuming your hardware supports it;   believe its still a manual process thougfh07:41
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cwilludirection are only a page or so of simple instructions07:42
tristanmikeCelestianpower, then "gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add - 437D05B5"07:42
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Celestianpowertristanmike: How doI find out the key?07:42
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cwilluI can't make xgl work on my card;  but we'll leave this particular conversation to #dapper+1 :p07:42
XeemHi07:42
tristanmikeCelestianpower, as I said, it's in your sources.list   (packages, GPG key: blah)07:42
paradizelostProtocol1: not sure.  but the next major release is still a ways off.07:42
tristanmikeCelestianpower, but add the ".us" first07:43
paradizelostProtocol1: and i'll take known stable over bleeding edge any day07:43
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blue__Anyone..?  Dual monitors?07:43
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_Felix^^07:43
tristanmikeCelestianpower, never mind that last statement, I'm a fool07:43
SoulPropagationblue__: look into something called xinerama07:43
blue__ok, thankyou07:43
Protocol1yeah I hear ya07:43
Protocol1im for stable07:43
jetscreamerfor nvidia just read their readme even if you don't use the binary07:43
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cjunerHi there... I'd like to keep my home directory under version control. Which version control system to use? Are there ways to make working with those more transparent?07:44
XeemSomebody know how can i update list of sources to apt-get ?07:44
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SoulPropagationXeem: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and run sudo apt-get update07:44
soundray!tell Xeem about easysource07:44
cwilluSoulPropagation: what's the computer, how old, how old is the drive if different from the computer, how big's the drive?07:44
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SoulPropagationcwillu: pentium 3 800mhz from circa 1999, drive came with computer, drive is 30gb07:45
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cwilluxeem, there's a sources.list builder on ubuntu.com (google for "sources.list builder ubuntu")07:45
cwillu7 years is a long time for a drive :/07:45
cwilluit _could_ be the drive is failing07:45
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_Felixseems like no-one can help07:46
_Felixbye07:46
cwillu_felix, try again later07:46
_Felixheh, k07:46
SoulPropagationcwillu: aw, darn... that's no fun. i'm broke up the wazoo07:46
cwillupeople will answer if they know anything07:46
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cwillu(sorry)  :)07:46
CarinArr_felix, what's the actual problem?07:46
tristanmike_Felix, what's the problem?07:46
_Felixoh07:46
cwillumodem issue?07:46
_FelixYes07:46
_Felixtrying to setup my sm5607:46
CarinArroh, probably can't help you then, never had the pleasure of having to set one up;)07:47
cwilluSoulPropagation: I'm not dead sure how, but an hd scan of some sort might shed some light07:47
_FelixAnd i downloaded the sm56.tk07:47
SoulPropagationcwillu: linux has a scandisk?07:47
cwilluyou can probably get a diagnostic util from the manufacturer (typically a boot disk of some kind)07:47
SoulPropagationoh07:47
_Felixi mean the file from there, and it couldn't compile...07:47
SoulPropagationright07:47
SoulPropagationfsck07:47
SoulPropagationi didn't say anything . . . . . .07:47
cwillulol07:47
tristanmike_Felix, why? what were the errors ?07:47
cwillufsck is more filesystem level though07:47
SoulPropagationis there a drive check thing?07:47
cwilluwe're talking surface scan type stuff, I don't know that fsck does that (does it?)07:48
_FelixLoads of them....07:48
_FelixFirst in slab.h, then in stdio.h.... :/07:48
_FelixAnd in the actual program... :/07:48
tristanmike_Felix, lol, that's no good, pastebin them ?07:48
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SoulPropagationcwillu: i don't think so i mean it is FSck07:48
_Felixim looking for the good alternative...07:48
SoulPropagationcwillu: know of any surface scanners?07:48
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_Felixthis doesn't seem to work :/07:48
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tristanmike_Felix, pastebin the errors07:48
_Felixhuh07:49
cwilluno;  I've got a cd of a collection of vendor's diagnostics, but can't remember what it's called07:49
cwillu!paste07:49
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.07:49
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_Felixi'm not on the lin right now07:49
tristanmikethank you cwillu07:49
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tristanmike_Felix, ok, are you using gcc 3?07:49
DaNeonany how-to's?07:49
SoulPropagationDaNeon: on what07:49
XeemSomebody know how can i update list of sources to apt-get ?07:49
XeemBut i do apt-get update. but when i do apt-get install conky its give me erroe07:49
_Felix4 i think... :/07:49
GTXALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory07:49
GTXhow do I fix this?07:49
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DaNeonSoulPropagation, sorry wrong channel07:50
tristanmike_Felix, that may be your first problem07:50
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DaNeonSoulPropagation, i'm on dapper07:50
SoulPropagation_Felix: well, there's no spoon07:50
tristanmike_Felix, according to the website it compiles under gcc2 and gcc307:50
Jonnings_I've installed the latest Blackdown Java runtime environment, but i still get the "additional plugins needed" msg when i enter some pages. Are there any additional settings i need to change to make this work?07:50
SutureSleepCan somone tell me why my DNS servers wont stay the way I set them up..07:50
_Felixok07:50
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_Felixif i alien the .rpm driver and install07:51
_Felixwill it work*07:51
gnomefreaktristanmike: are you sure its add - key?07:51
tonyyarusso_Felix: Maybe.07:51
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nickrudJonnings, some of the newer applets need java 1.5, see !java07:51
CarinArr_felix, possibly, but that's probably one of the cases where it's touch and go07:51
gnomefreaksudo apt-key add - key?07:51
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CarinArrfor drivers and stuff07:51
Jonnings_!java07:51
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:51
tristanmikegnomefreak, the other way wouldn't work for me, I always had to add the key at the end and I'd get an "OK" and not an error07:51
tristanmikegnomefreak, i thought the same thing too07:51
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gnomefreaki get error07:51
mattwestmwhere do I set users that aren't allowed to login via SSH?07:52
_Felixso, 50:5007:52
gnomefreakrunning update to see if the error meant anything07:52
tristanmikegnomefreak, try it without the space between the - and the key07:52
CarinArr_felix, if you can save the error, or at least the first few lines of the error and pastebin it to us we might be able to help tho07:52
CarinArr_felix, i wouldn't give any odds for it heh07:52
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gnomefreaktristanmike: that is an unknown command07:52
gnomefreaki tried that way too07:52
_Felixk, guys thx07:52
SutureSleepCan somone tell me why my DNS servers wont stay the way I set them up..07:53
_Felixi'll tell you when  i do, if i dont solve it... :/07:53
gnomefreakthe error means nothing it worked :)07:53
ubuntu29live cd huh?07:53
cwilluSutureSleep; if I had to guess, I'd say they're getting reconfigured by dhcp07:53
Jonnings!javadebs07:53
tristanmikegnomefreak, good :)07:53
SutureSleepcwillu: is there a way to keep them how I set them07:53
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peratuHi.07:54
peratuSomebody with iBook + AirportExtreme?07:54
GTXALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory07:54
GTXhow do I fix this?07:54
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ubuntu29any way to burn your setting when ruinning a live cd????????????07:55
cwilluSutureSleep:  look at /etc/network07:55
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ubuntu29system settings like firefox?07:56
cwilluSutureSleep: you should be able to specifically set the dns in /etc/network/interfaces07:56
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tristanmikeubuntu29, on breezy live ?07:56
SutureSleepcwillu: ok ill check that out, thanks07:56
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cwilluSutureSleep: man interfaces will give you the syntax07:56
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cwilluhhmm07:57
akcomI feel extremely stupid asking this, but I just installed the eclipse-ecj-gjt package, how do I actually get eclipse running?07:57
xanavimdoes Ubuntu run on both processors on the new AMD dual-core processors?07:57
tristanmikeubuntu29, so that when you use the livecd again, you can start where you left off ?07:57
cwilluSutureSleep:  I might have lead you wrong though;  I'm not dead sure dns is set from there anymore :)07:57
akcomneither "eclipse" nor "eclipse-ecj-gjt" are recognized at the console07:57
caravenaHello07:57
cwilluakcom, are you in their directory?  make sure you do ./eclipse07:57
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gnomefreakakcom: restart menus07:57
akcom"no suck file/directory"07:57
akcomgnomefreak: how would I go about doing that?07:57
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boscohow do i add more desktops in terminal07:58
gnomefreakakcom: did you install eclipse common? i think they all depend on that one07:58
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xanavimbosco: please be more descriptive07:58
akcomyes, I installed eclipse common07:58
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gnomefreakakcom: try killall gnome-panel it should come right back up and you should if installed find it in menu07:59
Alapzajwhat is the packagen name where included mkinitrd?07:59
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boscoxanavim,  i have 4 desktops and the graphical way will not work correctly and i want to mannually ad them i have 4 but i want 7 or so07:59
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jordo2323I know this is a non UBUNTU question but does anyone have any experience with FEDORA DIRECTORY SERVER?07:59
akcomgnomefreak: tried it and its not in the menu07:59
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akcomnor is it in the list of applications that can be added08:00
Protocol1can someone tell me how to get into the xorg configuration?08:00
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boscoxanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work08:00
gnomefreakakcom: that tells me its not installed properly or fully08:00
OmniColosubuntu crashes my trs-80 :P08:00
cwilluProtocol1:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:00
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akcomah, my mistake, you need the eclipse package, not just eclipse-ecj-gjt08:00
Protocol1i meant for configuring the video setup?08:01
cwillualternatively, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you the gui08:01
nickrudProtocol1, or for easy config, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:01
cwillu(or is it xorg-xserver?)08:01
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cwilluxserver-xorg :p08:01
Protocol1nickrud thanks08:01
gnomefreak:) no more errors08:01
akcomthank you very much :)08:01
DjQcZonEsomeone can tell me if it's normal that my ubuntu is different than what it's writed in the docs....like installing proftp and in the doc it's writed that proftpd.conf is in /etc but in my system it's not at this place...08:01
gnomefreaknickrud: what teh -phigh do?08:01
Rambo3!dapper08:01
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update08:01
kdittycan anyone help me with a network problem?08:02
kdittyi tried the forum nobody seems to want to respond08:02
gnomefreakkditty: if you tell us we might08:02
nickrudgnomefreak, reduces (drastically) the number of questions you have to answer08:02
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gnomefreakahhhhhhh nice :)08:02
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cwillukditty, just shout it out, if anybody knows, they'll answer08:02
kdittygnomefreak, couldi link you to the forum thread to make it easier to explain my situation?08:02
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boscoxanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work08:03
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gnomefreakkditty: please ask the whole room08:03
NegativeSpaceWhat would be the best channel for a newbie?08:03
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gnomefreak oh and yes kditty08:03
gnomefreakbrb08:03
nickrudNegativeSpace, here08:03
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NegativeSpaceOkay, cool.08:03
kdittyok, i am online right now throuhg unbuntu live cd, everything works fine and dandy, so i decided to format my old computer and unstall ubuntu 5.1008:04
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Protocol1that command just let me close out of my session?08:04
kdittybut when i logged on i couldnt get access to my network, but the live cd under network properties lists all available networks, and the hard drive install doesnt08:04
NegativeSpaceI want to uninstall Firefox 1.0.7 and install 1.5 but Ubuntu complains when I try and get rid of it.08:04
Protocol1and I had to log back in08:04
NegativeSpaceAny ideas why? And how to get 1.5?08:04
gnomefreakNegativeSpace: not on breezy you dont08:04
cwillu!firefox08:05
tonyyarussoubotu: tell NegativeSpace about firefox1.508:05
tristanmike!ff1.508:05
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:05
gnomefreakNegativeSpace: you have to keep 1.0.7 and install 1.5 next to it08:05
vars_hey how do i test my graphics card?08:05
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gnomefreakbrb again this time im getting up08:05
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dyrnevars_: you can type glxgears08:05
NegativeSpaceOkay, guys, cheers.08:05
vars_is there a good free fps for ubuntu?08:05
NegativeSpaceI'm afraid I may be asking several questions.08:06
kdittygnomefreak, here is the url to the topic http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14209808:06
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tonyyarussovars_: You can get frames per second with glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark08:06
Protocol1I did type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"  and it just logged me out of my session08:06
Protocol1?08:06
cwillu:/08:06
cwilluProtocol1:  I'm sorry, we should have mentioned that08:07
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Protocol1im trying to go through video setup08:07
orbitronFinding little help in the forums abotu gnome-admin.  I want to restrict users from changing the background08:07
CarinArrvars_, you'll want to copy/paste cause believe me there are a million ways you can typo that;)08:07
Protocol1how can I get there?08:07
cwilluthe xserver needs to restart to apply the settings, and so ya, it kinda kills your session08:07
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'908:07
lsuactiafner7 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers08:07
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lsuactiafnernforce4 chipset08:08
nickrudProtocol1, it shouldn't have logged you out. Are you in a console (text screen)?08:08
CarinArrlsuactiafner, i think that's the motherboard i have on my workstation upstairs08:08
rantakvars_: try enemy territory, it has good multiplayer08:08
vars_cool08:08
CarinArrbut don't have a surround system set up at the moment so i couldnt' tell you if it works08:08
Protocol1i have one out ...yeah08:08
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vars_how do i get framespersecond on glxgears?08:08
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nickrudProtocol1, run that command in the console, then type sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart08:09
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HappyFoolglxgears -printfps08:09
lsuactiafnervars_ : run it from a terminal, it will display fps on the terminal08:09
boscoxanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work08:09
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maentyhi, all08:09
lsuactiafnerHappyFool : you know anything about sorround sound 5.1 an linux?08:09
HappyFoolin the breezy version, you have to ask for fps08:09
maentyI have installed automake1.9 with apt-get install, but when i type automake --version it still shows it is 1.408:09
Protocol1all I want is the video setup screen to select which drivers to selct from08:09
maentycan someone help, how can I make automake to point to the new 1.9 version?08:09
Rambo3i have soundblaster 5.108:09
Protocol1its like a blue screen08:09
HappyFoollsuactiafner: no, sorry. i've got a crappy sound system08:10
nickrudProtocol1, that's it08:10
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lsuactiafnerRambo3 : all your speakers work like it should?08:10
Protocol1ok08:10
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Rambo3yeah08:10
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lsuactiafnerRambo3 : what card ect do you have?08:10
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Rambo3sb live 5.108:10
LuisBGis there a cputemp app for ppc?08:10
kyncanimaenty: dpkg -l automake1.9 | grep bin/08:10
vars_is 4000 any good?08:10
vars_fps?08:11
Rambo31 central base speaker and 2 sorund08:11
nickrudProtocol1, if you still have problems with it (that is, you have odd enough hardware that the dpkg-reconfigure can't figure it out,08:11
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maentykyncani: no result08:11
CarinArrkyncani, it doesn't actually symlink automake to automake-1.9 tho08:11
nickrudProtocol1, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; there's a lot more questions you'll have to answer.08:11
Rambo3abyway you fix them in alsa mixer  or alsa mixer gui08:11
boscohow do i run a script08:12
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Protocol1nickrud thats the command08:12
Protocol1heh08:12
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CarinArri have both 1.4 and 1.9 installed and automake points to 1.408:12
kyncanimaenty: an automake package that would install no binary ? You got me there08:12
boscoProtocol1,  no it says command not found08:12
dyrnebosco: sh scriptname or chmod +x scriptname then ./scriptname08:12
maentykyncani: I'm honest08:12
thompadoes anyone know if the notebook reboot problem has been solved for centrinos?08:12
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kyncanimaenty: i believe you, but can't help you :)08:12
maentykyncani: I just typed what you said, dpkg -l automake1.9 | grep bin and no result08:12
Protocol1sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:13
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tonyyarussothompa: What problem would that be?08:13
Protocol1that opens up the screen I wanted08:13
Protocol1heh08:13
maentykyncani: dpkg -l automake1.9 gives me 6 lines of stuff08:13
nickrudProtocol1, heh, -phigh works 95% of the time :)08:13
fintler 13:13:18 up 86 days, 22:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0008:13
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fintlerwith breezy :)08:13
maentykyncani: when I don't greb the bin part, and it seems there is nothing about bin08:13
CrAzYoNiHi all08:13
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SoulPropagationXorg is what's causing the problem08:13
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SoulPropagationit eats up 308m of ram08:13
CrAzYoNiWhere can I find the current pictures of the theme I'm using?08:14
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cwilluSoulPropagation:  resident or vm?08:14
nickrudSoulPropagation, part of that 308 is your video card memory; do not trust that number08:14
CarinArrmaenty, do dpkg -L automake1.9 | grep bin/08:14
SoulPropagationcwillu: res, i believe08:14
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CarinArrshould list /usr/bin/automake-1.908:14
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gnomefreakCrAzYoNi: in gnome system>preff>theme and it should show you the theme you are using08:15
thompatonyyarusso: my sony vaio starts to reboot, after a while gets to "rebooting" and hangs08:15
CrAzYoNinot that..08:15
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kyncanimaenty, CarinArr : did i say -l and not -L ? my mistake :)08:15
CrAzYoNiIn the panel in Ubuntu 5.10 There is the ubuntu logo08:15
CrAzYoNiI want to change it08:15
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thompai just installed ubuntu and ran updates08:15
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CarinArrmaenty, if you want it to automatically use 1.9 you can always brute force it by symlinking automake to automake-1.908:15
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maenty/usr/bin/aclocal-1.908:15
maenty/usr/bin/automake-1.908:15
CrAzYoNiIll still use this logo though I want to replae its background color08:15
tonyyarussothompa: Hmm, curious.  Was wondering b/c I have and IBM/Lenovo laptop with Centrino, no problem with that.08:15
nickrud/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png08:15
nickrud CrAzYoNi08:15
jmartiniis there a way to get synaptic to always go to the internet rather than look for a CD?08:15
CrAzYoNithank you08:16
gnomefreakCrAzYoNi: i dont know if you can i know you can change the middle section of the panel but either end i havent found a way yet08:16
vars_hey i want to run some stuff just out of windows, what is the best way to virtualize windows08:16
maentyCarinArr: where is the automake that I should symlink to 1.9?08:16
CarinArrmaenty, but for whatever reason it doesn't repoint the symlink automatically08:16
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maentyCarinArr: sorry, I'm a bit new to this08:16
SoulPropagationjmartini: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of the deb-cdrom line08:16
CrAzYoNiI want to change the "applications' backgroud if to be specific08:16
thompatonyyarusso: did you add anything like noapic to boot, are you running stock kernel?08:16
jmartiniThanks08:16
vars_is qemu anygood?08:16
maentyCarinArr: ln -s  is symlink ?08:16
kyncanimaenty, CarinArr : from the package description, it does not work well08:16
CarinArrmaenty, well /usr/bin/automake points to /etc/alternatives/automake, which points to /usr/bin/automake-1.408:17
CarinArrheh08:17
jetscreamerman alternatives08:17
nadia007anyone familiar with wpa_supplicant?  for wireless WPA.08:17
CarinArrso you can either point /usr/bin/automake direct to /usr/bin/automake-1.9 or you can point /etc/alternatives/automake to the 1.9 binary08:18
nickrudCarinArr, sudo update-alternatives --config automake08:18
CarinArrnickrud, oh didn't know about that:)08:18
boscoxanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work08:18
CarinArrmaenty, you'll want to do what nickrud says then08:18
thompatonyyarusso: im just going through a thread and it seems as if there is a bug, to be fixed in dapper08:19
nickrudCarinArr, ubuntu makes switching that stuff easy, look at /etc/alteratives for the stuff that can be configured that way08:19
CarinArrno point in brute forcing if there's an alternative08:19
maentygreat, thanks alot nickrud08:19
jetscreameri can never remember what is what so i just do update-alternatives --all08:19
tonyyarussoI've used without problems 2.6.12-{9-386,10-386,10-686}.  All with that boot addition.08:19
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maentyand thanks also CarinArr and kyncani08:19
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CarinArrnickrud, cool, didn't know about that08:19
xvisorhello all08:19
thompatonyyarusso: the thread says: (Add the reboot=h to the end of the kernel line.)08:20
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tonyyarussothompa: So what's that do?08:20
nickrudCarinArr, yw08:20
ghouleehow do I disable beagles world accessible web service?  I have port 8888 open on my system whenever beagled is running and it's bothering me08:20
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xvisorcan somebody help me with an error installing openoffice.org2-writer???08:21
ghouleewhen visiting :8888 in a web browser it gives an error message, but it shouldn't even have the port open on external interfaces08:21
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nickrudghoulee, I don't have beagle installed, but check  /etc/ for beagle, and in your home directory (probably .beagle)08:21
thompatonyyarusso: no idea, it could be a problem with ipw2200 though, dapper reboots fine, maybe i should go to dapper08:22
SoulPropagationso what's wrong with X?08:22
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tonyyarussothompa: Eh, release is soon enough.08:22
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sinaduelHello, I came to ask, on how I go about, burning AVI's to DVD's, so they are playable on DVD Players?08:23
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oblibI'm having a strange audio problem. After I run fceu many times (like 15-20) it starts to choke (just shows a grey scren). If i run another process to play music, fceu works fine because it can't get the audio device. When I stop the music player, it loops whatever it was playing (like .5 seconds worth) for a bit, then finally quits. anyone know what's happening to my audio?08:24
Zjm7891For future note... if anyone wants to use their trackpad and disable tap to click on a Dell Inspiron 6000 Mention to them they need a heavy drink and they need to compile thier own kernal08:24
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Zjm7891Now where is my heavy drink?08:24
thompatonyyarusso: the other small problem is fan is always running high, do you have that?08:25
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xanavimhow stable is Ubuntu on an AMD x2 processor?  I would like to get one, but I'm not sure08:25
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thompai want to try maybe cpu throttle id that works, but cant find it in gnome08:25
tonyyarussothompa: Higher than it probably should, but not excessively so.  There are some notes on the ThinkWiki about that, but I'm not going to bother until I have Dapper installed.08:25
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Rambo3xanavim like in smp kernel ?08:26
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xanavimRambo3: yeah08:26
tomukasdoes anyone use scribus with dapper?08:26
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tonyyarussotomukas: Ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions.08:27
thompatonyyarusso: im going to read up on it, thanks. the fan should not be running always high, that and nvidia make this very hot notebook08:27
Rambo3using intel hyperthreading , looks like X 2 , anyway it works ok08:27
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tomukastonyyarusso: ok, kthxbye08:27
kerutehi08:27
Zjm7891For future note what is dapper?08:27
Rambo3it should work on amd X 2 x8608:27
tonyyarussothompa: I'm at 51 C right now.08:27
Zjm7891!dapper08:27
ubotuThe pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update08:27
xanavimRambo3: sweet, they are blazing fast, maybe I'll get one  :D08:27
Zjm7891ohhhh pretty08:27
thompatonyyarusso: how can i check temp?08:27
Rambo3!smp08:28
uboturumour has it, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.08:28
tonyyarussothompa: acpi -AV08:28
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Zjm7891For future note... I suggest burning of all ALPS based Mousepads08:28
Epo^^Hi again :)08:28
sinaduelwould someone please explain how I burn AVI's onto dvd's so they are playable on dvd players08:28
thompatonyyarusso: 52 C08:28
LightBeamHello08:28
Epo^^Onther question, once again08:29
Zjm7891Hello Epo08:29
tonyyarussothompa: Yeah, so we're a little on the warm side atm.08:29
Epo^^I want to enable my Wireless connection, so I go to the tab in the control panel08:29
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thompatonyyarusso: do you use cpu throttle?08:29
Epo^^It says "you need root access", but there isn't a button to get it08:29
Zjm7891<.<08:29
Zjm7891Weird08:29
Epo^^In other dialogs (like fonts or something) there is one08:29
tonyyarussothompa: Yeah.  It's at 42%.08:29
Zjm7891run it using sudo and ndiswrapper08:29
xvisorif i try installing openoffice.org2-writer on my dapper install i get an error message saying it depends on python-uno >2.0.1 but i can't install python-uno saying it needs openoffice.org instead of openoffice.org2 :((08:29
Epo^^I get the "type the root pw", but that doesn't work08:29
LightBeamhow to know he partition i am logged on ? please08:30
Epo^^like sudo ndiswrapper?08:30
LightBeamthe08:30
Epo^^(First time linux user)08:30
vars_how do i format a fat32 to ext308:30
Zjm7891yessums ndiswrapper is another08:30
Zjm7891oh wait08:30
Zjm7891nevermind08:30
Zjm7891stick to the GUI =P08:30
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thompatonyyarusso: how do i change cpu throttle ?08:30
Epo^^lol ;)08:30
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Zjm7891You are using ubuntu not kubuntu?08:30
Zjm7891and gnome?08:30
SoulPropagationmy Xorg process sometimes eats up a crapload of ram, and it slows down my computer to the extent that i have to reboot cuz it completely hangs... so what's wrong with X?08:30
Epo^^kubuntu08:30
Zjm7891oh08:30
robinl1can i spam for something?08:30
Zjm7891Can't help you there... sorry?08:30
cmugAnyone upgraded from breezy to dapper succesfully?08:31
Epo^^hm, this is my dads system lol08:31
nickrudxvisor, openoffice.org in dapper is 2.something now08:31
tonyyarussothompa: I have it up with the Gnome applet, and that has right-click to change option.08:31
robinl1and can i ask you guys to help me with my project?08:31
Epo^^I didn't notice this was the wrong channel :)08:31
Zjm7891lol08:31
Epo^^sorry to have bothered you08:31
Zjm7891no problem08:31
SoulPropagationrobinl1: yeah, go ahead, what's yar project?08:31
cwillu!tell cmug about dapper08:31
cmugcwillu, thanks08:31
sinaduelokay, all I am asking, is at least a link, or the name of a program. To burn my movies onto DVD's08:31
Zjm7891Its only KDE difference but I don't know KDE's GUI08:31
robinl1http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/08:31
robinl1quick and dirty explanation08:31
Zjm7891and HOLY CRAP it takes forever and a day to compile a accursed Kernel!08:31
xvisornickrud, so you saying i should not use openoffice.org2 but openoffice.org??08:31
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nickrudxvisor, yes. I got bit by that a day or two ago08:32
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jmartiniZjm7891: try compiling everything like in gentoo...08:32
LightBeamplease, how can I know the partition i am logged on ?08:32
robinl1SoulPropagation: read it all over, they are logs from IRC (i'm not good at explaining,but if you read the whole thing you will understand it)08:32
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xvisornickrud, ok gonna try it right away brb08:32
Zjm7891jmartini: What do you mean by that?08:32
nickrudxvisor, if you compare which package actually provides openoffice.org & ooo2, you'll see they are the same08:32
cyberknarf#ubuntu-de08:32
oblibexit08:33
xvisorok08:33
jmartiniZjm7891: gentoo is a "from source" distro so you literally compile everything from scratch08:33
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thompatonyyarusso:  thanks, i cant seem to find it though08:33
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SoulPropagationrobinl1: you're only 13?08:33
robinl1yes :)08:33
robinl1after i have brushed my teeth and such i'm going to make a good site fori t08:33
Zjm7891jmartini:  Well I have to recompile the kernel to get my alps pointing device working... its just slow08:33
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SoulPropagationwell, major props to you for this08:33
Zjm7891jmartini:  It is currently compiling08:34
robinl1SoulPropagation: thanks ^^08:34
robinl1SoulPropagation: wanna help with it? can't do it on my own :P08:34
SoulPropagationcourse ^^08:34
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tonyyarussothompa: It's part of the Gnome right-click Add to panel stuff.08:34
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'908:34
SoulPropagationrobinl1: sure!08:34
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robinl1SoulPropagation: okay then! we'll talk in PM08:34
SoulPropagationalright08:34
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-408:34
cyberknarf#ubuntu-de08:34
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Pegasos989Does ubuntu automatically update to Open office 2.0.2, do I need to put some apt get install commands or download the package?08:35
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Rambo3when its stable it should be auto08:36
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thompatonyyarusso:  i have cpu freq. scaling monitor, but it has no options08:36
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nickrudPegasos989, if you're on breezy and truly want 2.0.2, you'll need to look for an outside package08:37
tonyyarussothompa: Sorry, single-click.  Frequencies > .08:37
Zjm7891How does port 8001 protect you from exploits?08:37
Pegasos989nickrud, okay, thanks08:37
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mementorhow do i enable cpu freq for turion64? modprobe something?08:37
soundrayPegasos989: if you're on breezy, it'll stay at what it is. When you go to dapper, it'll be 2.0.1 -- not sure if they'll go to 2.0.2.08:38
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lsuactiafnerZjm7891 : prolly filters out the text that hits those affected routers08:38
Rambo3as its not root ports08:38
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augustosempreaqui08:38
Rambo3!backports08:38
ubotuhmm... backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports08:38
ubuntuxaugusto, brazillian?08:39
augustonao portugues08:39
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ubuntuxaugusto, pode conversar em portugues aqui?08:39
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soundray!br08:39
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.08:39
soundray!pt08:39
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.08:39
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Zjm7891What happened to english?08:40
ubuntuxsorry08:40
LightBeamdf -h08:40
soundray!en08:40
ubotuI heard en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.08:40
Zjm7891=P08:40
ubuntux:)08:40
_21h_hello. I'm from Russia. I'm new ubuntu user :)08:40
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rukuarticGreat, welcome to the community _21h_ :)08:41
squiddlecongratulations _21h_08:41
ubuntuxubuntu rox, _21h_08:41
xanavim21 hours?08:41
Zjm7891Welcome08:41
xanavimoh, oops lol08:41
rukuarticAnyone know if it's possible to change the resolution of a terminal? (As in, no GDM/Xorg)08:41
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_21h_xanavim, no. it's interrupt of DOS08:41
xanavimrukuartic: yes08:41
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_21h_DOS API function08:42
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rukuarticxanavim: Can ya point me to a link?08:42
xanavimrukuartic: you configure it in your grub or lilo settings08:42
BobC2Welcome 21h  I'll still dealing with my old wintel machine to get it ready for Ubuntu..I can't wait08:42
xanavimrukuartic: are you using grub, yaboot, or lilo?08:42
LG:S08:42
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Drac|CrateHow do I disable color-coded things in the terminal?08:43
rukuarticxanavim: Eh... XD Its so long since I've booted my computer I don't know... Should be grub... thats what Ubuntu comes installed default right?08:43
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_21h_why grub falls to death with usb-keyboard?08:43
xanavimrukuartic: are you on ppc or x86 arch?08:43
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Zjm7891has anyone tested XGL?08:43
rukuarticxanavim: x8608:43
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xanavimrukuartic: then yes, grub is the default08:43
soundray_21h_: because of the BIOS. You should enable legacy mode for USB.08:44
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_21h_soundray, i know it. mode is truely setted08:44
soundrayDrac|Crate; try ls --color=none08:44
NRG88hi, how can i login somewhere with gnome remote desktop?08:44
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xanavimrukuartic: I can't find a set in stone link... you'll have to google for the resolution you want and "grub" and "resolution"08:44
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xanavimrukuartic: such as: 1024x768 grub screen resolution08:45
soundrayDrac|Crate: if you like it, 'alias ls="ls --color=none"'08:45
KoruptidPrydewhere do I change the associations for file extensions?08:45
rukuarticxanavim: Thanks ;)08:45
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xanavimrukuartic: that's how I set mine..08:45
V4VendettaKoruptidPryde~ right click a file, go to properties then opens with08:45
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xanavimrukuartic: and if you get it wrong, you'll have no backup virtual terminal so be careful08:45
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LinuxJonesKoruptidPryde, richt click file and open with other app. do this every time checkbox.(or whatever it's named)08:46
KoruptidPrydeV4Vendetta: I want to change the association permentantly and the various data associated with the association08:46
xanavimrukuartic: be sure to have your failsafe grub setting there just in case08:46
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xanavimrukuartic: or a livecd handy just in case  :D08:46
Larsson-SwedenI just got a new HD and i formatted it in reiserfs. The partition will just contain videos, mp3's and so on. No OS:es at all. Is Reiser a bad choice for this? Will i get trouble sharing my videos on DC and such?08:46
rukuarticxanavim: Eh... Haven't done much boot configuring...08:47
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soundrayLarsson-Sweden: your choice of reiserfs is just fine ;)08:47
Drac|Cratesoundray: That works fine, but how do I make it a permanent change?08:47
robinl1Anybody wanna help with my YouBuntu project? PM me! http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/08:47
HystyLarsson-Sweden, better than fat3208:47
Hysty;)08:47
xanavimrukuartic: to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, you find the line that looks like kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash08:48
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psusireiserfs is a perfectly good linux filesystem... better than ext3 in some respects08:48
soundrayDrac|Crate: add the alias line to .bashrc08:48
xanavimrukuartic: then you find the magic number you need and add it so it looks like:  kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash vga=xxx08:48
Larsson-SwedenThanks. :) Second question: Now i want to add it to fstab so it gets mounted when i start. It is also important that my user (that is, not root) can read and write to it. What options should i write in fstab to achieve this?08:48
xanavimrukuartic: where xxx is the magic number08:49
psusifor the most part though, it doesn't really matter which one you use08:49
squiddleLarsson-Sweden  just defaults is enough, reiserfs has normal unixpermissions08:49
rukuarticxanavim: :P I just found that, but thanks. How would I set up a failsafe incase everything fell apart?08:49
squiddleLarsson-Sweden  mount it and say chmod/chown like you want08:49
xanavimrukuartic: the next configs down in grub should be failsafe "recovery mode"08:49
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xanavimrukuartic: if those are there, you can recover with them08:50
rukuarticxanavim: Thanks a lot. I'm guessing this requires reboot?08:50
xanavimrukuartic: if not, don't make the change without a livecd08:50
cwilluhow do I bind an action to a function key in bash?08:50
xanavimrukuartic: yes08:50
Larsson-Swedensquiddle, oh, so i can mount it with options defaults, then just chmod it? will those changes be there when fstab mounts the drive next time?08:50
BobC2Thanks for the help people!    ...CYA08:50
suture1Hmm why does it say I have 259 Prosseses and 1 Running08:50
xanavimrukuartic: you can also make copies of your configs with different resolutions to test several at once08:50
squiddleLarsson-Sweden  yes08:50
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xanavimrukuartic: it usually speeds up the trial and error process a bit08:51
Larsson-Swedensquiddle, thank you! I will return if it doesent work. Thanks!08:51
JonningsIs there some way to switch to superuser so you dont have to specify the sudo command? (sry for noob question)08:51
psusiJonnings: sudo -s08:51
squiddlesudo su -08:51
xanavimgotta run, lunch calls08:51
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soundrayrukuartic, did you edit the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst?08:52
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XiCillinwhere can i find what nvidia driver i need for a specific card? i think i need the 7676 for 7800 GT08:53
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XiCillinbut i'm not sure08:53
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biloypanyone know of a keylogger for Linux?08:53
soundrayXiCillin: one size fits all.08:53
XiCillinso that would work?08:53
soundrayXiCillin: I think 7676 is a version number.08:54
Drac|Cratesoundray: Here's a laugh. The color feature is enabled by an alias in bashrc. I actually have to comment it out. :P08:54
XiCillinthe version of the driver08:54
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?08:54
soundrayDrac|Crate: I should have remembered that...08:54
soundrayXiCillin: yes. You can't go wrong if you follow the wiki stuff:08:54
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soundray!nvidia08:55
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:55
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biloypI take that as a no then?08:56
DjQcZonEhi, someone can help me with a problem with k3b ???08:56
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lsuactiafnersoundray : k08:56
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soundraylsuactiafner: that wasn't for you :)08:56
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robinl1DAMN KEY08:57
robinl1i just typed in my sentence08:57
soundraylsuactiafner: I just have bad lag at the moment. I was responding to XiCillin.08:57
biloypDjQcZonE, what is the problem?08:57
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DjQcZonEbiloyp: Le programme  mkisofs  a retourn une erreur inconnue (code 1)08:57
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DjQcZonEuh sorry....the program mkisofs has returned an unknown error (code 1)08:58
biloypDjQcZonE, no spekenzie French..only Enlish and Spanish curse words08:58
DjQcZonEI can't burn cd....but I can erase it08:58
biloypDjQcZonE...do you mean music cd08:59
DjQcZonEno data cd08:59
soundrayDjQcZonE: what happens when you enter "mkisofs" on a terminal command line?08:59
biloyphold on let me give it a try08:59
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biloypdo you mean text files etc?08:59
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DjQcZonEsoundray: mkisofs: Missing pathspec.08:59
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lsuactiafnerthre is a differnece between nvidia and nforce, the one is the chipset, the other one is the graphics card08:59
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lsuactiafnersoundray : oh heh09:00
LuisBGwhat's ESSID and why do I think is SSID?09:00
soundrayDjQcZonE: strange, you don't seem to have mkisofs. Try 'sudo apt-get install mkisofs' and restart k3b before you try again.09:00
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Drac|Cratecommands gtk-config and xmms-config do not exist. What do I need to install to have them?09:01
robinl1Hey guys, i invite you all to join my project, YouBuntu, it's basically a distribution extension that you install on ubuntu, the thing will install new ideas & innovating programs made up by the community, programmed by the developers & users, if we do this, this will revolutionize ALL operating systems as we ALL work together to make the most INNOVATING operating system EVER, based on ubuntu! and it's no Linux distribution, it's an Ubuntu extender! mo09:01
robinl1re info on http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/, if you're interested, join #YouBuntu and start contributing your ideas!09:01
DjQcZonEsoundray: I tried apt-get but I already have the latest version...09:01
dyrneDjQcZonE: you might also try sudo k3b09:02
DjQcZonEI tried sudo k3b too and there is no difference :)09:02
biloypdid you install K3b via the Synaptic Pacakge manager?09:02
DjQcZonEhum....not sure but I think it was installed by default when I have installed k-destop09:03
soundrayDjQcZonE: your path seems to be screwed...09:03
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Stormx2Hai09:03
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biloypDj , I don't think it comes installed09:03
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soundrayDrac|Crate: there is no gtk-config for gtk2. xmms-config is in xmms-dev09:03
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Drac|Cratesoundray: Well, I'm trying to build something that uses gtk-config. What do I do?09:04
LuisBGwasn't the drapper install going to be visually enhanced?09:04
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DjQcZonEso, what can I do to solve this problem....rebooting ?09:05
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Drac|CrateLuisBG: It's still in progress. Don't complain. :P09:05
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soundraybiloyp, kubuntu-desktop depends on k3b.09:05
soundrayDrac|Crate: install libgtk1.2-dev ? I don't know...09:06
LuisBGDrac|Crate, it's not a complain :( just curiosity, want to see the new one09:06
soundrayDjQcZonE: do you see any output when you enter 'echo $PATH' on the command line?09:06
DjQcZonEyes09:07
Drac|CrateLuisBG: Flight 4 runs really well. Go give it a try.09:07
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soundrayLuisBG: ESSID is the identification that wireless access points broadcast.09:07
soundrayLuisBG, did you find a way to read ppc CPU temperatures?09:08
Drac|Cratesoundray: That shouldn't interfere with future compilations that try to use gtk 2.0, should it?09:08
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LuisBGsoundray, still instaling the system09:08
soundrayDrac|Crate: only if the programs that depend on gtk2 are really stupidly written.09:08
StazOh shit I just installed UBUNTU and also GRUB. Now when I boot up I get "error loading operating system"09:08
LuisBGDrac|Crate, i'm installing it right now09:08
StazI think GRUB is screwed how can I get rid of it09:09
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soundrayStaz: no need to invoke excrements. Read ubotu's message about grub.09:09
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soundray!tell Staz about grub09:09
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sbartleylinuxIs there a page that descibes how to get the ltsp packages working under dapper yet?09:09
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Drac|CrateLuisBG: You'll like it. GNOME 2.15 has a lot of interesting improvements. It'll look a lot like Breezy, of course, but it'll feel a lot better, I think.09:10
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Drac|CrateLuisBG: Sorry, I mean GNOME 2.13.09:10
soundrayDrac|Crate: 2.*15*?09:10
Drac|Cratesoundray: Typo. :P09:10
soundrayDrac|Crate: I think you mean 2.14 ;)09:11
Lordthunderingguys, if u use network folders in gnome, how can i use them in quanta or any other non-gnome app?09:11
Drac|Cratesoundray: 2.13, technically.09:11
Stazthanks soundray09:11
Lordthunderings/network/ssh09:11
Drac|CrateLordthundering: I'm pretty sure FTP folders are strictly a nautilus feature.09:11
soundrayLordthundering: you can only use those folders with programs that are "gnome vfs-aware".09:11
StazIm not screwed then? :)09:11
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soundrayStaz: you can reinstall grub with the install CD. See the wiki instructions linked by ubotu.09:12
joelw23how do i install a dmg09:12
sbartleylinuxogra, ?you around?09:12
soundrayLordthundering: you could try mounting your folders with sshfs instead of nautilus.09:12
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akcomIs ther any way to figure out what version of firmware a device is running?09:13
NegativeSpaceWhen trying to uninstall a program and it says "There are other applications depending on this one", what does it mean, and can it still be removed?09:13
soundrayakcom: it depends on the device.09:13
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Drac|Cratesoundray: xmms-dev installs libgtk2.0-dev, which fixes the problem. :P09:13
Lordthunderingsoundray, which are?09:13
akcomsay an internal broadcom wireless 802.11 b/g card09:13
s-wxhp: unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpiod.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 75 Ever seen this error ?09:13
soundrayDrac|Crate: ah good.09:13
soundrayLordthundering: I don't understand your question.09:14
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joelw23how do i install a .dmg09:14
Lordthunderingsoundray, which application outside gnome itself are gnome vfs aware?09:14
akcomjoelw23: that's a mac disk image, i don't believe linux supports installing those09:15
joevandykI have ip and dns masquerading on my ubuntu box.  however, i can't ping my gateway (permission denied) after a reboot until I restart ip and dns masq.  Any ideas on why that is?09:15
joelw23ok09:15
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soundrayLordthundering: I don't know. Check out my other suggestion, sshfs09:15
joevandykdoes gigabit networking speed up remote X at all?09:16
theskunkyes09:16
[Leo] joevandyk: you have tu setup ip settings at startup09:16
[Leo] *to09:16
[Leo] :P09:16
joevandyktheskunk, is it noticable?09:16
theskunkanybody know how to setup a second x-session? (so i can hit alt-f2 and then login and startx again)09:16
joevandyk[Leo] , er, what?09:16
xvisordoes anyone now what i need to install when getting "smb:///" is not a valid location in the file browser while trying to access microsoft network??09:17
theskunkjoevandyk, depends.... i think its pretty quick already, but thats me09:17
Daveytheskunk: use XNest09:17
[Leo] xvisor: dapper?09:17
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xvisorleo: yup09:17
soundrayjoevandyk: these things are timing sensitive. You could add a script that restarts ipmasq to /etc/network/if-up.d09:17
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{fastlane}hola09:18
Daveytheskunk: Applications > System Tools >  New Login in a New Window (install xnest package if you don't have that)09:18
{fastlane}necesito un poco de ayuda09:18
[Leo] xvisor: you miss a package09:18
{fastlane}con mi dispositivo wifi09:18
xvisorleo: don't tell me it's a bug i can;t do anything about09:18
theskunklemme rephrase this -- i'd like to know how to modify the screens section in my xorg.conf so that i can use a totally different .xinitrc to start the x-session.09:18
NegativeSpaceIs gaim the best MSN alternative?09:18
[Leo] xvisor: gnomevfs2-extra... or something like that!09:18
joevandyksoundray, ah, thanks.09:18
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theskunkNegativeSpace, yes09:18
DaveyNegativeSpace: in Gnome, yes. Kopete is nicer in KDE09:18
xvisorleo: aaaahh oke i'll start searching for summat like that, thnx09:19
Davey(because it uses the same toolkit as the rest of the UI)09:19
[Leo] NegativeSpace: try amsn too09:19
NegativeSpaceOkay theskunk, Davey, cheers.09:19
soundray!es09:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:19
NegativeSpaceLeo, I'll check it out, thanks.09:19
[Leo] NegativeSpace: amsn supports a lot of msn features09:19
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biloypDj, k3b worked fine for me09:20
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biloypoh he is gone09:20
DoTheRodeois there any other CD burner than Nero?09:21
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linkdDoTheRodeo: k3b is a goodun09:21
f1k0ym4k4hi09:21
biloypDoTheRodeo try k3b09:21
f1k0ym4k4i need help! =(09:21
DoTheRodeok3b?09:21
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biloypyeah09:21
linkdDoTheRodeo: a CD/DVD burner09:21
soundray!helpme09:21
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.09:21
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soundray^ I like that one :)09:22
f1k0ym4k4how can i install the amsn?09:22
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soundrayf1k0ym4k4: 'sudo apt-get install amsn' or use synaptic.09:22
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DoTheRodeoyou can burn movie with it?09:23
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pabea135hi09:24
f1k0ym4k4no, i cant install with sudo apt-get install amsn =(09:24
[Leo] f1k0ym4k4: why?09:24
natalieHello, I have another question to ask09:24
soundrayf1k0ym4k4: probably because you need to activate repositories. Look out for ubotu's message09:25
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soundray!tell f1k0ym4k4 about repos09:25
pabea135what hapen?09:25
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soundraynatalie: just ask.09:26
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natalieI installed 5.10 and can only access the gdm when I am in recovery mode.  If I boot normally it just freezes.  I already tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg, just not sure what to do now.09:26
nicholaspauli've installed Ubuntu x86 server, and then installed gnome desktop, but some of the menus are missing. how do i populate the Applications and System menus?09:26
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natalieI looked through the forums, but I couldn't really find anything that helped with that issue.09:27
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bimberinicholaspaul: ubuntu-desktop09:27
DoTheRodeolinkd, im trying to burn .mp3's but it says unsupported format, etf?09:27
DoTheRodeowtf?09:27
DoTheRodeo*09:27
dyrnenatalie: you using framebuffer?09:27
FunnyLookinHatnatalie, it just freezes and won't even send you to a text/console login instead?09:27
nicholaspaulbimeri: gotcha..thanks!09:27
bimberinicholaspaul: np :)09:27
dyrneDoTheRodeo: in k3b? sudo apt-get install k3b-mp309:28
s-wxEverybody is talking about my problem but nobody can give me the solution.. now wht i should do :P09:28
natalieFunnLookinHat: that is correct.  Dyrne: I do believe that I am useing frame buffer.09:28
DoTheRodeooh nvm09:28
DoTheRodeoi just did sudo apt-get install k3b09:28
joelw23can anyone help me install sauerbraten09:28
bimberiDoctorMO: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp309:29
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bimberiDoTheRodeo: ^^^^ (sorry DoctorMO)09:29
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FunnyLookinHatnatalie, sorry, but I am unsure how to fix that.  It's probably related to the line in your GRUB conf file concerning the video mode.  But I don't know which09:30
joelw23can anyone help me install sauerbraten09:31
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DoTheRodeoyeah09:31
DoTheRodeonow it works09:31
soundrayjoelw23: http://www.basic-recipes.com/r/sa/quick2.htm ;)09:31
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joelw23hahaha09:31
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DoTheRodeoanother, is there any video converter for linux? like .avi to .vob?09:32
soundraynatalie, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want us to have a look at it.09:33
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soundrayDoTheRodeo: transcode09:33
ddonkyDoTheRodeo - I'm late to the conversation, but transcode is pretty good for command-line09:33
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DoTheRodeois it fast? or it depends on your system?09:33
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lsuactiafnerDoTheRodeo : mencoder part of mplayer09:34
joelw23can anyone help me install sauerbraten09:34
ddonkyyeah, that too09:34
DoTheRodeoi don't use mplayer09:34
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soundrayjoelw23: sauerbraten.org is down at the moment, so I can't give you specific help. Maybe you can help yourself based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware09:34
davidX-i just let synaptic update my kernel to -10 from -9 and now i'm seeing "VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)" after reboot09:34
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davidX-what should i do?09:35
ddonkyDoTheRodeo - mencoder worked in real-time if i remember right, but it was a small file. .ra to .avi I think09:35
rambo3boot from older kernel09:35
rambo3and fix grub menu09:35
soundrayrambo3: is that for davidX-?09:36
biloyp_anyone ever burn mp3 with k3b09:36
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soundraybiloyp, yes.09:36
ddonkyditto09:36
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biloyp_soundray, I just tries and got a "unsupported format error"09:36
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davidX-hrmm09:37
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bimberibiloyp: install k3b-mp309:37
biloyp_bimberi..ok thx09:37
davidX-the boot options in grub look the same for both kernels09:37
soundraybiloyp, it's libk3b-mp3 here09:37
soundraybiloyp, sorry, trying again: libk3b2-mp309:37
natalieI posted it as Natalie's Xorg09:37
rambo3what does your system look like where is ubuntu ? davidX09:37
davidX- /dev/sda109:38
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rambo3you can edit grub on boot menu09:38
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lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?09:38
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davidX-ya when i go to edit and compare -9 to -10 everything is the same09:38
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soundraynatalie: is it hanging at this point?09:38
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Tezkahokay, so when i am in KDE and click on the battery monitor, theres an option to hibernate the laptop, and that works09:39
Tezkahis there a way i can do this outside of running that applet, like a command?09:39
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biloyp_soundray..I just installed k3b-mp3..via Synaptic Package manager...same thing?09:39
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rambo3ok try changing root(hd0,0) to root(hdo1,0) and make shoure that in kernel line there is root=/dev/sda109:40
davidX-alright brb09:40
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nataliesoundray: what do you mean?09:40
makkkhow do I make bash display the current directory path at the prompt?  (this is obviously not an ubuntu machine, since ubuntu does this automaticall)09:40
soundraybiloyp, should be fine (it's probably different here because I'm on dapper atm).09:40
LuisBGthe mouse (trackpad) acceleration it's at its max and it is still very very slow09:40
dyrneTezkah: maybe apmsleep09:40
LuisBGwhat can I do?09:40
biloyp_soundray ahh ok, I am on breezt..ok let me give it a shot09:40
raphinkmakkk: set it in your .bashrc. I can send you an example of mine if you want09:40
LuisBGhow do I install a bluetooth mouse?09:41
Tezkahdyrne, apmsleep: Your kernel does not support APM.09:41
makkkraphink. i thought it would be this, but i dont know the exact command09:41
StargazersHi. I have a problem with ATI driver fglrx on Dapper Drake with XOrg 7.0.0. It says "Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory You may override the detected version using the following syntax: X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install] "09:41
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raphinkmakkk: it's a whole language stuff09:41
raphinkmakkk: come to PV please09:41
soundraynatalie, was gdm hanging at the time you posted Xorg.0.log ?09:41
raphinkmakkk: it's too crowded here to talk about such a huge subject ;)09:41
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Stargazersdmesg | grep fglrx09:41
SeveasStargazers, use the Ubuntu provided drivers09:41
raphinklol09:41
StargazersI tried09:41
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makkkraphink, where is that?09:41
Stargazers[4294702.921000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!09:41
StargazersThat it what dmesg says09:42
StargazersI have Club Radeon 750009:42
soundrayTezkah: try 'sudo echo 4 >/proc/acpi/sleep09:42
dyrneTezkah: sorry not really sure maybe try the --noapm09:42
soundray'09:42
nataliesoundray: That is the Xorg for 5.10, unfortunately, no. I am presently on 4.1 rignt now.09:42
joelw23/home/joel/Desktop/sauerbraten/sauerbraten/bin_unix/linux_client: cannot execute: Success09:42
joelw23help09:42
yaccsoundray: Modern version would be echo 'disc' >/sys/power/state or so.09:42
nataliesoundray: That is the last Xorg from that drive.09:42
SpCombhmm, will the normal 5.10 AMD64 installer work on a dualcore 3800+ ? The installer loads up fine, and partitions (and unset the bootable flag on my windows partition too), but it doesn't get past 0% on the "Installing base system", says it can't get the packages off the CD, and no apt mirror configured09:43
yaccsoundray: disk ;)09:43
StargazersSeveas: On that driver it won't start X09:43
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SeveasStargazers, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:43
marcelwhat is the best ftp server for a beginner ,  i want to do it from the command line09:43
soundraynatalie: in the hanging state, can you still switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?09:43
Seveas(just replacing ati with fglrx is NOT enough)09:43
Tezkahsoundray, bash: /proc/acpi/sleep: Permission denied09:43
StargazersI have done it and rebooted my computer, but still it goes on text mode and dmesg says that [4294702.921000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!09:43
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SpCombor do I need to get one with a SMP kernel?09:44
soundrayTezkah: did you forget the sudo? Also read yacc ^^09:44
GTXSpComb, You'll have to get SMP kernel man, like me09:44
nataliesoundray:  No I cannot, it is completly frozen.  If I try to promt it by switching over before it finishes loading, the prompt itself will freeze after it finishes loading.09:44
SpCombhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136048&highlight=installing+base+system <-- that looks like the identical error09:44
Tezkahyeah i did sudo, but i see09:45
SpCombit doesn't work without?09:45
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GTXSpComb, It will work without smp just wont use the 2 cpus only 109:45
SpCombthat's not a problem09:45
SpCombtrying to get it to at least install the kernel09:45
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LuisBGthe mouse (trackpad) acceleration it's at its max and it is still very very slow09:45
rambo3just typing server should install base system09:45
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SpCombhmm, it's really shady media though, might well be corrupted09:45
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arnoudhi all09:46
insiteswhat is the normal way to mount a fat disk in ubuntu so  that it stays persistent? i used system/administration/disks to mount a vfat drive on /media/storage and it disconnects everytime i restart.09:46
Tezkaheven with sudo, i am getting permission denied09:46
SpCombdidn't do a md5 check on anything09:46
dwightwhat file p2p client would you recommend to me?09:46
NegativeSpaceDownloading JRE, do I want Linux RMP self-extracting, or just Linux self-extracting?09:46
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SpComboh, and it's a bit weird that it detects my SATA disk as a SCSI disk...09:46
NegativeSpaceRPM*09:46
SpCombgot the partitions right though :)09:46
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soundraynatalie, you could try disabling gdm with 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' and see if it still freezes when you do a normal reboot and start gdm by hand (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start).09:46
arnoudI'm using an ASUS ATI graphics card, and I want to install the latest drivers. Due to the fact that I am new to Linux...... Can someone help me?09:46
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dwightNegativeSpace: not RPM the other one will do just fine09:46
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SpCombthe stupid thing about it was that it swapped the bootable flags.... after the installer failed, windows wouldn't boot09:46
SpCombwhich is quite a not-good thing09:47
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SpCombhad to go swap the boot flags in the partitioner myself09:47
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NegativeSpacedwight: Thanks dude.09:47
soundrayarnoud: follow the wiki instructions as recommended by ubotu's pm:09:47
rambo3if you have network you can allways hit ctrl+c and stop apt . change sources and install from net09:47
dwightNegativeSpace: no prob09:47
soundray!tell arnoud about ati09:47
robinl1okay, my project is done.. can i spam for it?09:47
SpCombI tried burning the image twice on two cds, failed on those09:48
SpCombI guess my CD is just corrupt09:48
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xstationhey09:48
arnoudhmm can you tell me where to search?09:48
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soundrayarnoud: look at the private message you got from ubotu09:48
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LuisBGhow do I install a bluetooth mouse?09:49
marcelwhat is the best ftp server for a beginner ,  i want to do it from the command line09:49
Seveasrobinl1, no, spamming is not tolerated09:49
Seveasmarcel, stop repeating09:49
robinl1Seveas: ok, and in -offtopic?09:49
marcelok09:49
Seveasyou were given answers already09:49
marceloops sorry09:49
xstationwho would the command look like in if I wanted to use the cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA in openssl09:49
StargazersSo, anyone have no any other ideas to get FGLRX work?09:49
Stargazers:'(09:49
StargazersAti sucks09:49
Seveas!tell Stargazers about ati09:50
arnoudthank you Soundray09:50
dwightStargazers: yeah it does... well on Linuix it does09:50
xstationSeseas: hows it going09:50
nataliesoundray:  Thanks, I'll give that a try09:50
StargazersYep09:50
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dyrnemarcel: i like vsftpd but i believe proftpd has a gui frontend you can apt-get09:50
robinl1Seveas: ok, and in -offtopic?09:50
Seveasrobinl1, spam is never tolerated - you can discuss your project there though09:51
StargazersThx Seveas, I try to look about those links09:51
SpCombbut wouldn't it be more sensible to only set the bootable flag on the ubuntu partition at a later stage?09:51
robinl1Seveas: okay, but i mean it's a simple URL.09:51
SpCombsay, at GRUB install09:51
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Seveasrobinl1, #u-offtopic please09:52
SpCombit's just a bit silly that if it fails, you have to manually set windows to boot again09:52
SpComband most people wouldn't know how to do that09:52
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tushkeewho's on Dapper now and just did an update? The OPEN/LOAD/BROWSE dialogue doesnt show up instantly, the program freezes up and resumes after a minute or two.09:52
soundraySpComb: that's why there is a support channel.09:52
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tarzeauwhich driver do i load for linux 2.6, for my mcp high definition nvidia soundcard? 0000:00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)09:52
SpCombwhat if someone has a single computer?09:52
marceldyrne:    thx ill try vsftpd09:52
SpCombit's not too much fun09:52
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soundraySpComb: Live CD?09:53
SpCombuhm09:53
SpCombhow to download/burn it?09:53
SpCombjust in theory09:53
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SpCombit's not fun to have a computer that doesn't boot09:53
JonningsI get "subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2"  while trying to install automatix. Anyone familar with this?09:53
SpComband setting a empty partition to boot isn't too nice09:53
soundraySpComb: in theory, the problem will be solved in dapper, where the install CD is also the live CD.09:53
LuisBGhow do I install a bluetooth mouse? the trackpad is too too too slow, a pain just going to system09:53
SpCombhuh?09:54
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soundraySpComb: I would argue that installing OSs isn't for the timid, anyway.09:54
TheMadGeekHey09:54
SpComb`the issue is that the boot flag on the windows partition is unset, and set on the soon-to-be linux partiion09:54
SpCombsoundray: isn't ubuntu meant for the timid?09:54
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tushkeeLuisBG: you mean touchpad?09:54
TheMadGeekCan anyone tell me a cheap, external, usb modem/router that will work with ubuntu with ease?09:54
TheMadGeekAnd I can connect to using windows xp default networking tools?09:54
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SeveasTheMadGeek, usb is not meant for networking, don't abuse it09:55
LuisBGtushkee, yes09:55
tushkeeLuisBG: for the touchpad to work properly, i had to edit my xorg.conf09:55
LuisBGsorry09:55
TheMadGeekSeveas, I mean like the connect to panel in the start menu09:55
LuisBGand what did you write there?09:55
soundrayTheMadGeek: go for an Ethernet router. Much, much better.09:55
tushkeeLuisBG: hang on ill give you the link09:55
TheMadGeeksoundray, I want to connect to the internet, I used the term networking loosely09:55
prxqhi. anyone knows how to get the coda file system working with ubuntu? I see no package for it, but some other packages reference it. (WebDAV, for instance). Any ideas?09:55
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tushkeeLuisBG:  are you on dapper?09:56
SpCombethernet modem is far more flexible and useable than a usb modem09:56
soundraytushkee, LuisBG, check out the docs in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/09:56
TheMadGeekSpcomb, How do I connect one?09:56
SpComba ethernet one?09:56
soundrayTheMadGeek: Seveas is still right, and Ethernet is still the best.09:56
LuisBGtushkee, yes, just installed09:56
yaccsoundray: I think we forgot the sh :( sudo sh -c "echo disk >/sys/power/state" :(09:57
SpComba normal lan card and then as a ppp interface09:57
tushkeeLuisBG, soundray, -> i followed this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=800083&postcount=309:57
TheMadGeekSpComb, How do I find out of my computer has a lan card?09:57
soundrayyacc: ahh...09:57
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SpCombTheMadGeek: look at the back of it. It's like a big telephone socket :/09:57
SpCombhard to say09:57
LuisBGand how I install a bluetooth mouse?09:57
soundrayTheMadGeek: look for a socket that is similar to a phone socket, but wider.09:57
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SpCombTheMadGeek: http://info.pcwebshop.ch/Glossar/images/rj-45.jpg09:58
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TheMadGeekSoundray, I've got one with three computers connected as an icon09:58
squirrelstylejetscreamer --- you there09:58
SpCombyep09:58
SeveasTheMadGeek, that's a good one09:58
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TheMadGeekSeveas, So I can use that for a ethernet router that will work for ubuntu and windows for connecting to the interneT?09:59
soundrayTheMadGeek: you said cheap -- how much are you willing to spend?09:59
SpCombhttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/ might be a read (first google result for linux dsl howto)09:59
TheMadGeeksoundray, Whats the cheapest for a good one09:59
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SpCombhmm, verbose howtos <309:59
SpCombwhatever, I'll keep out of this09:59
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SpCombI assume my CD is corrupt09:59
SeveasTheMadGeek, correct, both ubuntu and winXP will work with it out of the box09:59
squirrelstylevmware all installed in 5.10 --- this rocks --- just installed winblows xp  >:)09:59
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tushkeeSo anyone on Dapper who updated today and the OPEN/LOAD DIALOGUE is not responsive and hangs up?09:59
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emilianomhello09:59
thomass_emi10:00
TheMadGeekSo whats the cheapest for a good one, i'll probley get it off ebay10:00
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CarlFKhow to I change hostname so that it doesn't change back after a reboot?10:00
SeveasCarlFK, edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname10:00
soundrayTheMadGeek: Linksys WRT54GL are good ones, and not too expensive10:01
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Seveassoundray, isn't that a wireless thing?10:01
emilianom_after reboot?10:01
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thomass_u noob10:01
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TheMadGeekSoundray, So this will replace my ADSL usb modem?10:01
CarlFKSeveas: thanks.  I thought the hostname command set /etc/hostname.  I see now that isn't true10:01
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soundrayTheMadGeek: oops, Seveas is right, forget it.10:02
SeveasTheMadGeek, ah, you have a usb adsl modem...10:02
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SeveasTheMadGeek, in that case you can't use any router10:02
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TheMadGeekseveas So what can I do?10:03
TheMadGeekhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linksys-wireless-G-Broadband-Router-WRT54G-Instal-CD_W0QQitemZ5878236758QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWD7VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem10:03
SpCombhmm, ppp works together with DHCP, doesn't it?10:03
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SpCombso it's plug & 'play'10:03
SeveasTheMadGeek, you need an adsl router supported by your adsl company10:03
tushkeeso how can i change from DHCP to STATIC IP via command line?10:03
Seveasor just use your current hardware10:03
SpComb*modem10:03
Seveastushkee, sudo nano /etc/interfaces10:03
StazDamn Something is REALLY screwed up :( I get "Error loading operating system" just after rebooting after installing GRUB during Ubuntu install.10:04
SpComboh, mutliple comptuers?10:04
SpComba second NIC is cheaper :P10:04
tushkeeSeveas: thx, ill try that now :)10:04
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tushkeeSeveas: it's empty10:04
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nataliesoudray:  I removed the gdm, but it still froze at terminal prompt10:04
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Seveastushkee, ehrm /etc/network/interfaces10:04
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peratuSomebody with iBook + AirportExtreme?10:05
tushkeeSeveas: it worked, thx again.10:05
TheMadGeekThese are my companys routers: http://www.tiscali.dslshop.co.uk/routers.asp10:05
Seveasperatu, airportextrem does not work with ubuntu breezy and earlier, works buggy with dapper10:05
soundrayTheMadGeek: (ebay link) that one doesn't have a modem built in, but there is a variation that has one.10:05
eriscowhat is the gnome desktop referred as in the killall command?10:05
[Leo] how can i make pkg-config see a new (compiled) version of a lib?10:05
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[Leo] erisco: maybe gnome-session10:05
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peratuSeveas , yes, I have Dapper.10:05
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TheMadGeekSoundray, would the aforemented one work with linux?10:06
erisco[Leo]  I don't want to end the session, I just want to refresh the desktop as I changed my wallpaper and I want to see the change10:06
Seveasperatu, the broadcom card (airport extreme) is not supported with Ubuntu - there are drivers for it but you need to get the firmware yourself10:06
TheMadGeekSoundray: Its usb10:06
suture1How can I change my refreshrate, the one in gnome only says 60 but i know it can be higher10:06
daneturnerhello10:06
soundrayTheMadGeek: check out Linksys WAG354G, e.g. on aria.co.uk10:06
[Leo] erisco: try killall gnome-panel10:06
erisco[Leo]  that is for panels though ;)10:06
erisco[Leo]  I will give the session a shot10:07
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Seveassuture1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:07
tushkeebyez10:07
erisco[Leo]  gnome-session: no process killed10:07
nataliesoundray:  I removed the gdm, but it still froze at terminal prompt10:07
soundrayTheMadGeek: Speedtouch modems are kind-of supported, but it's *really* better to go for a proper router.10:08
[Leo] erisco: but why kill panel or session to refresh wallpaper?10:08
peratuSeveas , look this please. http://pastebin.com/59517310:08
erisco[Leo]  You suggested that, not me10:08
[Leo] erisco: it should refresh automatically10:08
erisco[Leo]  Is there a gui way to refresh it?10:08
erisco[Leo]  the fact is that it is not10:08
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erisco[Leo]  and there must be a better way than logging out then back in10:08
soundraynatalie: that's interesting. I don't think the X server is your problem at all, and it didn't look like it from your X log either.10:08
TheMadGeeksoundray Okay, thats something to consider#10:09
TheMadGeeksoundray Thanks for all the help.10:09
LuisBGanybody knows to to configure a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu?10:09
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soundraynatalie: could this be a hardware problem? Overheating?10:09
Seveasperatu, check the manpage for ifconfig, iirc you don't write it that way...10:09
[Leo] erisco: sure, but i can't help you :)10:09
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athlonis it possible to run both KDE and Gnome ? but without using Xnest, but rather like virtual terminal10:09
eriscocan anyone else tell me how to refresh my desktop background image?10:09
nataliesoundray:  I don't really see how, I have no problems running my other version on the same computer.  Which is what I am doing right now10:09
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ProN00bhow can i burn .dmg files ?10:09
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peratuSeveas , I can do ifconfig for other wlan device.10:10
athlonso I want to be able to switch between desktop manager easily (ctrl-alt-f7 to go to kde, ctrl-alt-f8 to go to gnome, etcetera)10:10
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soundrayLuisBG: bluetooth isn't ready for prime time in breezy afaik.10:10
Syco54645how can i upgrade my mozilla?10:10
SeveasSyco54645, why?10:10
Syco54645firefox rather10:10
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Syco54645Seveas: because i went to 1.5 and it is using 100% of my processor when it renders pages.  i want to go to 1.5.1 to see if that helps10:11
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Seveas!ff1.510:11
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:11
nataliesoundray:  I can also start the gdm from recovery mode and run it mostly fine.10:11
soundraynatalie: can you check /var/log/syslog to see if there's an entry related to the crash?10:11
Syco54645thanks Seveas10:11
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Syco54645Seveas: dumb question, but is that link down?10:12
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SeveasSyco54645, works fine here10:12
trappistpublic away messages suck.10:12
lampshadewhat exactly does /etc/init.d/networking restart do?  The reason I ask is that I put my computer into hibernation, and then awaken it to find my wireless gone.  I have to manually reset it with /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant restart and then ifup eth1.  Shouldn't /etc/init.d/networking do all that?10:12
Seveastrappist, that's why there's an auto-kick on awaymsg10:13
nataliesoundray:  If I post it, will you take a look at it, I'm actually fairly new to linux, so I'm still learning a lot of the things I need to know.10:13
knubbeanyone using mysql who knows if its possible to get the /include directory (with mysql.h for example) from the repository?10:13
trappistSeveas: oh I didn't even notice.  Excellent.10:13
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eriscoCan anyone tell me how to refresh my desktop?10:13
ProN00bhow can i burn .dmg files ?10:13
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Syco54645Seveas: that is odd.  maybe something with my isp, splra.org doesnt work for me either10:14
trappistknubbe: libmysqlclient14-dev10:14
bolrod.dmg = file for OS X ?10:14
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daneturnerI'd like to add a trusted CA Cert to Firefox for all users.  According to folks on #firefox at irc.mozilla.org the default certs are compiled in.  Is there a way to add additional CA Certs without having to touch each user's firefox profile?  I have 100 users on 50 Hoary workstations.10:14
ace66yes its a program of some sort.10:15
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ace66dmg that is.10:15
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LuisBGsoundray, i'm in drapper and before I reinstalled my system I used the bluetooth mouse I'm trying to configure10:15
bolrodit is something like .iso..  only for mac ?10:15
bolrod:)10:15
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ace66mac os x mounts dmg files when you click. under linux its meaningless as far as I know10:15
LuisBGsoundray, so I know it works10:15
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bolrodyes10:16
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bolrodyou could burn a .dmg to a file...10:16
nataliesoundray:  I went ahead and posted it under my name.10:16
StargazersIs there any smart reasons to use Xorg 7.0 instead of 6.8? I mean, 'cause 7.0 is not supported by ATI drivers but 6.8 is10:16
ace66why do you want to burn a dmg ?10:16
bolrodI dont10:16
soundraynatalie: okay, I'll have a look. I have terrible lags here, so pls be patient.10:16
ddauname -r says I have 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic, but apt-cache search shows only kernel-source-2.6.11 - wrong version. Where do I get the ltest kernel-source package?10:16
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nataliesoundray: not a problem.10:17
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KlohuntIs it easy to change the desktop icon size for all icons at the same time?10:17
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kehermanAnyone have issues with printing only from Acroread?10:18
soundraynatalie: that's only the top of the file. Please do a 'tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog >/tmp/logtail' and pastebin /tmp/logtail10:18
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H4RDC0REhi10:18
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kehermanKpdf works fine, since it uses the default printer and not this "print command = /usr/bin/lop" function10:18
kehermanlp10:18
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daneturnerany knowledgeable firefox sysadmins?10:19
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nataliesoundray:  I posted all of today's reports in the syslog10:19
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soundraynatalie: pastebin accepts a limited amount only.10:19
nickrudKlohunt, you can do that with System-prefs-file manager icon view defaults, but that affects the whole system. You may need to change other folders by hand10:19
knubbetrappist: great, thank you!10:19
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nataliesoundray: sorry, I'll get the rest10:20
trappistknubbe: the results of apt-file search mysql.h.  apt-file is great stuff.10:20
Klohuntnickrud: I see, thanks10:20
KlohuntJust that firefox's icon is huge10:21
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Neth./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:21
nickrudKlohunt, maybe right click the firefox icon, and choose stretch if it's the only one bothering you10:21
nickrudNeth, sudo aptitude install libstdc++510:22
ace66neth: looks like your missing a c file10:22
ddauname -r says I have 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic, but apt-cache search shows only kernel-source-2.6.11 - wrong version. Where do I get the latest kernel-source package? Please advise..10:22
soundraynatalie: still not the whole story. Please use the tail procedure I recommended.10:22
nickruddda, get linux-source (a change)10:22
Neththanks nickrud10:23
ace66dda: have you got the right repository for apt cache ?10:23
ddaace66, I run dist-upgrade and got the kernel 2.6.12, so I asume the repository is correct10:24
Seveasdda, linux-source, not kernel-source...10:24
ddatrying...10:24
kehermanis it too late to request a package upgrade for Dapper?10:24
ddanickrud, Seveas - thanks. seems that it will help!10:25
onehelp please; where is the kernel commandline found ?10:25
kehermanWhy isn't Adobe Acroread being upgraded in Dapper at all?10:25
Seveasone, /boot/grub/menu.lst10:25
nataliesoundray: I did what you said.10:25
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kehermanstaying at 7.0.1 even though 7.0.5 is out and includes CUPS support now?10:26
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kehermansucks..10:26
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lampshadewhat exactly does /etc/init.d/networking restart do?  The reason I ask is that I put my computer into hibernation, and then awaken it to find my wireless gone.  I have to manually reset it with /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant restart and then ifup eth1.  Shouldn't /etc/init.d/networking do all that?10:27
antibusdoes ubuntu support xen?10:27
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DRbrHey guys10:27
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DRbrI need a little help here10:27
nickrudDRbr, ask, no one can help if they don't know the problem10:28
DRbrI installed Ubuntu on a old desktop(K6-2 450) and it was too slow so I installed xubuntu-desktop10:28
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soundraynatalie: I have two suggestions: remove the hplip-base. If that doesn't help, try booting without acpi (edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, appending acpi=off to the #kopt line; then run update-grub).10:28
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DRbrbut the default display manager is still gdm10:28
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soundray*hplip-base package10:28
DRbrwhich is too heavy10:29
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themachineare there any unbreakable cipher programs?10:29
nickrudDRbr, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm , I think10:29
DRbrI remember that I had used a terminal command that allowed me to choose between kdm and gdm10:29
DRbrI want to know if the same is true for xfce10:29
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DRbrI already tried that and it didn't help10:29
nickrudDRbr, does apt-cache policy xdm show it as installed?10:30
soundraythemachine: there is no such thing. You can brute-force any algorithm (it may take 10^100 years, though).10:30
themachinealright10:30
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themachinethanks soundray10:30
pragunwhat software should i get to convert my .doc file to .pdf?10:30
Jhairpragun: word!?!10:30
trappistperatu: openoffice.org10:30
praguni saw some stuff about OO printing to a pdf printer10:30
trappistJhair: word can't do it10:31
nataliesoundray: back in a few10:31
pragunbut i dont have that in my printers list10:31
trappistpragun: it can expert straight to pdf, you don't need a pdf printer10:31
soundraynatalie: I won't be here.10:31
Jhairoh I forgot word was crap :)10:31
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peratutransgress, kde.org10:31
DRbrnickrud, let me check.... the computer is crawling10:31
pragunlet me look again10:31
pragunbrb10:31
soundraynatalie: but there are other helpful people around.10:31
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pragunha10:31
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pragunhaha10:31
pragunthanks, found it10:31
pragundidnt see it before10:31
nickrudDRbr, you could shut down X and work from a console (ctl-alt-f 1-6) until you get it straight10:32
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trappist!tell pragun about enter10:32
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DRbrnickrud, it wasn't installed, I dunno why though since xfce is up and running10:32
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DRbrthanx, let me restart x and see what happens10:32
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themachineis there some place I can get a list of all the words in the english alphabet  like a list on a text file10:33
pragunsorry trappist10:33
nickrudDRbr, if you do apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop, that will tell you what packages were installed by xubuntu-desktop10:33
pragundidn't realize10:33
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trappistthemachine: google for wordlists10:33
pragunanyways, thanks for the help, guys =P. i feel so silly.10:33
eternaljoyi just did an update, and get this: The following packages have been kept back:10:34
eternaljoy  totem10:34
themachinetried that for a while..10:34
Super_Kinghey all, what's the best solution for unpacking .rar files in Ubuntu?10:34
eternaljoyThe following packages have been kept back: totem.10:34
trappistthemachine: actually I think there's an app like cracklib-data or something that has a wordlist10:34
eternaljoyany fix?10:34
nickrudtotem, which distro?10:34
eternaljoytrappist: hello! any ideas?10:34
themachineah10:34
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trappisteternaljoy: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:34
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eternaljoynickrud: I use Breezy and today it said I have upgrades!  so I clicked install!  but at the end it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.10:34
nickrudeternaljoy, either trappist's or aptitude upgrade10:35
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ablomenhey people, im compiling wine at the moment (becouse there arnt any 64bit .debs) but i get an error saying it cant find the right version of libXext, anybody had/solved this problem?10:35
eternaljoytrappist: when I type that command it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.10:35
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eternaljoynickrud: when I type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.10:35
trappistthemachine: sudo apt-get install wamerican-large10:35
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eternaljoynickrud: any fix?10:35
trappisteternaljoy: sudo apt-get install totem?10:36
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nickrudeternaljoy, then you have something installed, that conflicts with totem's upgrade. You could try to track that down :)10:36
trappisteternaljoy: did you maybe install totem from outside the repos or something?10:36
DjQcZoNEhi, I want to know wich package is the best if I want to install programs with RPM -> alien or rpm10:36
eternaljoytrappist: trying  sudo apt-get install totem now10:36
trappistDjQcZoNE: avoid doing either10:36
eternaljoytrappist: not sure10:36
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brainiac_ghostis todays (daily) cdimage going to be the same as flight 5?10:36
lsuactiafneranyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?10:36
GoldfischHow do I install ubuntu on a closed network, where I don't have the packages available via Internet? I mean, they aren't all on the installl CD, right?10:36
DjQcZoNEtrappist, why ?10:37
eternaljoytrappist: it says: The following packages will be REMOVED:10:37
eternaljoy  totem-xine10:37
eternaljoy!10:37
ubotueternaljoy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:37
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trappistDjQcZoNE: for the same reason you shouldn't install debian packages on ubuntu - packages from other distros are likely to be binary-incompatible with ubuntu and cause serious problems.10:37
jetscreamer!10:37
cyphaselol, that's funny..10:37
antibuslsuactiafner, my mobo supports that too.. and i havent been able to get it, i just duplicated front and back sound10:37
ablomenDjQcZoNE: bocouse rpms are made for redhat style distros, not for debian/ubuntu10:37
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DjQcZoNEoh okay...:)10:37
cyphase"Don't pay the Microsoft tax! get a compuer with Linspire!"10:37
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cyphaseGet* computer*10:38
ace66Goldfish:the install should all basic requirements on disc10:38
cyphaseuhh, and how about the linspire tax?10:38
DjQcZoNEand a last one question....when I download a .bin, how do I do to install it ?10:38
cyphaseyou run it10:38
trappistDjQcZoNE: sudo sh filename.bin10:38
trappistusually10:38
DjQcZoNEI already tried but I always got errors msg10:38
GoldfischIs there an apt tool that handily will pull all the debs, so I can stage them on a flash drive, and then walk them in to my production network?10:38
DjQcZoNEtrappist, thanks :)10:38
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linuxboycan I get ubuntu ltsp help here?10:39
nickrudGoldfisch, apt-zip10:39
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Seveaslinuxboy, try #edubuntu10:39
linuxboySeveas: thanks10:39
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antibusnickrud, so if you use apt-zip, and you specify a flash drive as an apt-source on anotehr compy.. what you put on the flash drive using apt-zip can be apt-get install from the flash drive on another comp?10:40
leafwwhich is the app to detect an external monitor10:40
chrisw69can anyone tell me how to install firefox 1.510:40
antibusnickrud, is that the way it works10:40
leafwor do I have to touch the xorg configuration ?10:40
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chrisw69I'm having problems lol :\10:40
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nickrudantibus, essentially, you do an apt-zip on the machine you want to install, it writes a script you can take to another manchine & run. That'll get the debs you need10:41
kehermanchrisw69, whats yer real name?10:41
antibusohh ok10:41
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chrisw69chris10:41
kehermanchrisw69, you can install firefox 1.5, but you have to follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com10:41
nickrudandroid, it's been about 4 years since I used it, so the exact technique of installing on the original machine slips my mind, but it was simple10:41
kehermanchrisw69, ward?10:41
chrisw69no soz10:41
kehermanoh nm10:41
chrisw69i followed those instructions10:42
GoldfischBingo! apt-zip appears to be what I need. When I get home from work, I will play with it a little to get familiar with it.10:42
chrisw69and it's still running 1.0.710:42
chrisw69when i tried to do em again10:42
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chrisw69it says file exists etc10:42
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kehermanchrisw69, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%2910:42
chrisw69yes.. that's what i did10:43
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nickrudandroid, sorry, that was for antibus10:43
chrisw69I had problems10:43
lsuactiafnerantibus : how did you duplicate the sound?10:43
lsuactiafneri wouldnt mind mono as much as no sound from rear10:43
nickrudGoldfisch, you might want to look at setting up your own apt repository, that might be simpler in the long run10:43
lsuactiafnerprivate query me if possible10:43
antibuslsuactiafner, my sub has a switch to handle that.. i just flipped it, im not really sure how to do it in linux10:44
antibusnickrud, ahh, fun.10:44
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lsuactiafnerk10:45
Jonnings!java10:45
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:45
leafwexternal monitor howto ?10:45
Jonnings!javadebs10:45
leafwI need help there10:45
deefziofftopic: does anyone know how much ipod mini's retail earplugs cost?10:46
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nickruddeefzi, too much?10:46
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deefziperhaps on a apple store, but a "friend" of mine has several of 'em. just wondering how much could i offer10:47
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Goldfischnickrud: My goal is to load a production server with apache2 and mediawiki. Then I need to monitor for security updates and download them as they come, sneakernetting them into production.10:47
nickruddeefzi, start low, and haggle. He'll have a cutoff (so off topic :)10:47
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ace66deefzi: apple earbuds are ok but not great10:48
deefzinickrud, i was wondering about 5 euros (~6 dollars) but that's maybe too low. although he said "they suck and he never uses them" :-)10:48
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deefziace66, they are ok for me. i'm not willing to invest much on earplugs. main headphones are more important10:48
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nickrudGoldfisch, I am *not a sysadmin, but I've sneakernet'd a lot of stuff, and maybe bringing on line a test production system that you can drop and add to the net (along with the repo)10:49
deefziwhich btw broke today :-(10:49
nickrudGoldfisch, as needed.10:49
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ace66deefzi: bummer.10:49
shivI just installed i810switch. Where do I look for it?10:50
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ace66deefzi: I have a good set of sennheisers for home. sony earbuds for the ipod.10:50
nickrudshiv, dpkg -L i810switch | grep bin10:50
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Goldfischnickrud: I would like to, only they would never allow that. Our development lab has internet connectivity, but everything else is isolated, period.10:51
nickrudGoldfisch, ah, I see. One of those :)10:51
shivnickrud: I installed it from synaptic so that should be done. Where do I look for it now?10:51
deefziace66, say no more. came from shower and noticed the right bail was broken10:51
trappistshiv: do what he said.10:52
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shivok wait10:52
deefziace66, sennheiser hd500. gotta buy some epox tomorrow, although for a second i though of spending some 90 dollars for hd555:s :p10:52
Goldfischnickrud: I carry a 1Gb flashdrive around my neck. It is no issue to write some scripts and push that stuff onto it, then walk it into the server room as needed. :)10:52
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shivthis is what I got10:53
nickrudGoldfisch, I have no issue with security10:53
shiv/usr/bin10:53
shiv/usr/bin/i810switch10:53
shiv/usr/bin/i810rotate10:53
shivshiv@ubuntu:~$10:53
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trappistshiv: don't paste here10:53
loz14hey10:53
nickrudshiv, there you go, those are the commands you can run (and see trappist)10:53
trappistshiv: and run i810switch from the console10:53
jetscreameraround your neck? omg10:53
ace66deefzi: I hav an old pair of hd570s so I'm sure either are good10:53
shivI see thanks10:53
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trappistjetscreamer: I keep mine on my keychain10:53
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loz14hello everbody10:53
Goldfischjetscreamer: It's a thumb drive!10:54
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loz14how can i find wha tyou guys were talking about10:54
loz14it's my first time10:54
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nickrudGoldfisch is a thumbdrive kid!10:54
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NethTotem could not play 'file:///home/epic/Desktop/SCDA.mov'. any help?10:55
ace66loz: just lurk for awhile then jump in10:55
GoldfischWell...carrying around putty and tightvnc is kind of handy! (It let's me ssh into my home machine, then vnc onto my desktop so I can IRC with you guys, from anywhere!)10:55
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loz14cool10:55
trappistGoldfisch: you use vnc to irc?!!10:55
shivnickrud: so I made both crt and lcd on. Now when I plug in my projector for presentaion i should be all set. Is that correct?10:55
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trappistGoldfisch: irssi + screen man10:55
Goldfischtrappist: What is irssi?10:56
leafwanyone on how to plug an external monitor?10:56
trappistGoldfisch: console irc client10:56
leafwit's not automatically recognized10:56
nickrudshiv, I don't have an i810, so I can't really say (well, I do, but I have an nvidia installed)10:56
Goldfischtrappist: sudo apt-get install irssi?10:56
tushkeeWhere the heck is OpenOffice on Dapper??!?10:56
loz14can anyone direct me to channel for complete beginners like me, first week with ubuntu...10:56
trappistGoldfisch: I think it's irssi-text (which I find weird)10:56
lampshadetushkee, probably need to add .org on it10:56
neirasshiv, http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/i810.4.html10:56
nataliehello, Can anyone tell me exactly how my grub should look if I have changed it to turn ACPI off?  It looks like this right now "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb1 ro ACPI=off"10:56
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PuMpErNiCkLeloz14: I think this is it :)10:57
lampshadetushkee, that always happens to me at least, I forget the .org and then I can't find it in repos10:57
cwilluloz14, this is the place10:57
StazHey is anybody able to help out. After installing GRUB during UBUNTU install I now get a "DISK BOOT FAILURE" message10:57
loz14ok10:57
cwillujust shout out the questions, and people may or may not answer if they know :)10:57
ddaback to the linux-source problem: i'm trying to compile the latest alsa drivers, and I'm getting checking for kernel linux/version.h... no10:57
ddaThe file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.10:57
ddaPlease install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution10:57
loz14i'm a quick learner10:57
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tushkeelampshade: so it's not included on the install?10:57
trappistdda: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:57
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loz14does anybody know if xgk can be stable for ubuntu users?10:58
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Goldfisch-irssiHey guys, this is interesting!10:58
loz14xgl10:58
trappistdda: after that you may need to sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux10:58
siggihow do i upgrade xorg from 6.8 to 6.9 or 7 ?10:58
chimera321goldfisch, what's interesting? ^^10:58
trappistGoldfisch: use it for a while, play with settings, check out the kinds of scripts available... you'll never go back :)10:58
ddatrappist, trying now, thanks. Always wondering, how to get this info except from IRC? :)10:58
tonyyarussoAnyone used Skype on dialup?  Does it work?10:58
PuMpErNiCkLeloz14: It can be, although it's only abailable for Dapper which is still beta.10:58
cwilluloz14, you're new to linux you said?10:58
nickrudsiggi, you would have to compile it yourself (on breezy) but waiting a month & 10 days will get it for you10:59
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loz14t yep10:59
Goldfisch-irssitrappist: thanks.10:59
PuMpErNiCkLes/abailable/available/10:59
cwilluprobably not a good idea to play with it yet :/10:59
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loz14yeah i was going to uinstall the latest version10:59
Goldfisch-irssichimera321: I am using the console version of irc. My regular freenode account is registered as Goldfisch, using X-Chat.10:59
trappistdda: experience, mostly.  you could install apt-file, run apt-file update and apt-file search linux/version.h but we couldn't really expect you to think of that10:59
sigginickrud: ahh ok10:59
cwilluit's an experimental thing available on an experimental version of this operating system, which is still experimental for you :)10:59
cwilluthat's three layers of experimental10:59
PuMpErNiCkLeloz14: I wouldn't recommend Dapper until it hits release candidates... they're still making fairly big changes.10:59
jaygeekloz14: you are new to linux and me to english ;) help me I'll help you10:59
nickrudsniff* console geeks11:00
chimera321lol11:00
sigginickrud: im totaly new to kubuntu, what is breezy ?11:00
loz14ok, ok jay11:00
loz14see you on msn11:00
trappistPuMpErNiCkLe: we release flight cds instead of release candidates, and we're on #5 I think11:00
Goldfisch-irssitrappist: Let me guess...you're favorite browser is links/lynx?11:00
chimera321siggi: the latest stable version of ububtu/kubuntu11:00
nickrudsiggi, that's the elitest name for the current release of ubuntu11:00
siggiand ustable being ?11:00
natalieHow do I turn ACPI off?11:00
PuMpErNiCkLetrappist: I thought after a certain point - when it hit feature freeze - they got called RCs?11:00
siggiunstable11:00
cwilluwarty -> hoary -> breezy (current) -> dapper (latest that's not released yet)11:00
chimera321siggi: dapper #411:01
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jaygeeknatalie: acpi=off on kernel parameters ?11:01
trappistGoldfisch-irssi: hehe, no - I don't even use a console email client anymore.  but with irssi + screen + bitlbee I have achieved chat nirvana and I can access it from anywhere and leave it running 24x711:01
Nethhow do i fix totem? is it broken for everyone?11:01
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lampshadetushkee, No, it should come with the basic install :-/?11:01
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siggiis it possible to go from breezy to dapper easily ?11:01
chimera321not yet11:01
chimera321wait till its stable11:01
trappistPuMpErNiCkLe: dapper's pretty frozen like that.  it would be disingenuous to call them release candidates since we're on a fixed release cycle.11:01
GoldfischOkay. I'll look at that tonight, as well. :)11:01
cwillusiggi, there's a repo to do it, but again it's experimental;  when the time comes, it'll just be a 'click here to upgrade' and your done11:01
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chimera321which should be soon11:02
siggiok :)11:02
nataliejaygeek:  That's correct, it was suggested that I turn it off because it seems to be causing problems with startup.11:02
chimera321couple months at most11:02
siggiI used gentoo before11:02
tushkeelampshade: i had it like a few days before, then did an update, now it's gone. hehe funny. ah well, i grabbed Abiword instead.11:02
PuMpErNiCkLetrappist: They did the RC# thing for Breezy, though, didn't they? O_o11:02
chimera321btw, you're all invited to #ubuntuforums, it's lonely there:P11:03
aeolistnow that you mention upgrading to dapper, have dapper's flight 4 dvd, couldnt upgrade though... needed to download 350 mb11:03
Nethor dont answer me thats good too11:03
GoldfischI think if you put noacpi as an argument on booting your kernel, should do the trick.11:03
PuMpErNiCkLetrappist: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12142 for example.11:03
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nataliealso, what are the commands to reinstall something that has been removed?11:03
nickrudNeth, we're not sure of the problem, you weren't the first to ask11:04
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cwillunatalie, should just be able to reselect it from synaptic, or sudo apt-get install <packagename>11:04
trappistPuMpErNiCkLe: ah, I guess they do one RC for either a final bugfix sprint or call-it-good-and-release-it just before the release date11:04
Hystywho here rips dvd's and what app do you use?11:04
jetscreamerdon't use dvdrip11:05
nataliecwillu:  thanks11:05
jetscreamerit seems to make empty files after 2 hours11:05
jetscreamerused to work11:05
JonningsI've installed and selected the j2re1.5-sun, but i still get a damned message saying i need java runtime environment. What am i doing wrong?11:05
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jetscreamer!info avidemux11:05
odathi everyone11:05
aeolistHysty, if you need a quick solution, use k9copy (search google)11:05
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odatanyone using dapper yet?11:05
Hystyjetscreamer, ok cool11:05
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nickrudodat, #ubuntu+111:05
cwilluPuMpErNiCkLe:  the flights are still making changes;  beta's/rc's are feature complete fixing the bugs on hundreds of random people's machines :)11:05
PuMpErNiCkLetrappist: ah, ok11:05
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Hystyaeolist, yer just want to dump main movie and re-burn to dvd, closest thing to dvdshrink in windows is what I want11:06
jetscreamerthere's a dvdshrink in linux isn't there11:06
trappistHysty: dvdshrink runs in wine :)11:06
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aeolistyes, k9copy is for you... 1 click and you are done11:06
Hystytrappist, really, excellent *insert mr burns overtone*11:06
jetscreamerall the tools you want will be in that marillat-like repo though11:06
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jetscreamerwhat's it called?11:06
CaptainMorgandark dapper11:06
trappistthere's some frontend that uses vobcopy, transcode and some other tools that tries to be like dvdshrink.  I forget what it is.11:06
aeolistHysty, http://repos.knio.it11:07
nataliejaygeek: I modified my # kopt to look like this "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb1 ro ACPI=off"11:07
tonyyarussoHow to blank screen and turn off backlight on a laptop?11:07
trappistnatalie: acpi wants to be lowercase11:07
natalietrappist: Oh, okay, didn't know that, thanks.11:07
jaygeeknatalie: what's kopt ? I do not know I'm running gentoo linux11:07
natalietrappist:  Is the rest of the line okay?11:08
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NegativeSpaceDoes it matter were I install JRE?11:08
tushkeetonyyarusso: nice question. anyone shares something here? it's funny that when it blanks screen, it only turns black and the backlight is still ON. hehe11:08
nataliejaygeek:  it's the automatic options for the kernel11:08
shivI have the Mcrosoft trips and streets with GPS device. I am trying to use that with GPS software to completely switch to linux. This is the only thing pending now. I tried GPS drive it did not work with the pharos device. ANy help on that please?11:08
dancingmonkeypreferabily where you tell the browser it will be.11:08
trappistnatalie: not if it's in your menu.lst11:08
dancingmonkeymost of the time in ENV somewhere11:09
Hystyaeolist, awesome,..cheers11:09
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tonyyarussotushkee: Exactly.  And I don't really want my laptop being a really expensive nightlight, but still wanted it open.11:09
natalietrappist:  all right, how would I change that to turn off the ACPI?  I think it may be causing my problem with start up.11:09
DjQcZoNEwhat is the best way for me to configure my local network ( File sharing et Internet sharing ) between my ubuntu and a Windows 98 machine... ? (Is there any graphical tools who can do this)11:10
s|kwhich is the shared directory where I can put images that other users can also access?11:10
NegativeSpacedancingmonkey: Excuse my stupidity, but where is that?11:10
trappistnatalie: I misspoke, sorry.  Yes, the rest of the line is correct.11:10
timmy334has anybody gotten xgl/compiz working on a mobility radeon x600?11:10
edanhow do i past errors?11:10
tushkeetonyyarusso: exactly, coz the "lid closing" function is still really buggy, i always end up forcing my laptop to restart when it wont come alive again.11:10
natalietrappist: thank you.11:10
trappistnatalie: that is, the syntax is correct - I have no idea if sdb1 is really your root device.11:10
natalietrappist:  it is in this instance11:11
tonyyarussotushkee: Actually, the lid function works fine for me, I just wanted it open.11:11
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edancan anyone tell me how do i past errors?11:11
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tushkeetonyyarusso: it works at times for me. but if i let it for long, like overnight, the morning after it wont light up anymore. :(11:11
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chimera321#UBUNTUFORUMS IS ALMOST EMPTY WE COULD USE MORE PEOPLE TO FLAME IN HERE11:12
tushkeeso guys, BLANK SCREEN just turns the monitor black and it doesnt turn if OFF?11:12
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Jhairuh?11:12
robchimera321, don't do that11:13
biovoretushkee: yup, check power managment.. monitor should turn off after 20 mins or so11:13
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skitHello11:13
loz14see ya boys n girls, time to get some beers!11:13
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trappistchimera321: please don't yell.11:14
ion_rob: why not ?11:14
chimera321ok11:14
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tonyyarussoI know there's a command to blank the screen; what is it?11:14
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robion_, its annoying for one thing11:14
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chimera321could some more of you pretty please join #ubuntuforums for a more relaxed discussion about non-ubuntu stuff?11:14
robchimera321, use #ubuntu-offtopic instead11:14
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WildTangentbut we <3 #ubuntuforums :P11:15
tonyyarussoOkay, I'm having some issues with irssi, back in a flash for anyone about to answer my question...11:15
chimera321ya11:15
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skiptHello everyone ...11:15
skiptHas someone XGL runing ?11:15
chimera321#ubuntuforums FTW!!!11:15
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skiptUnder an ATI 9200 ? for example ?11:16
ubuntuxgnome was written in C?11:16
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NegativeSpaceShould the JRE be installed to /usr/local?11:16
WildTangenti shall take my leave now...11:16
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ion_tonyarusso:perhaps your question is my as well....11:16
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nickrudNegativeSpace, you'd be better off getting something from !javadebs11:17
tonyyarussoion_: Sounds like we should start a club.11:17
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ion_tonyarusso:any time....my friend...11:17
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trappisttonyyarusso: in X or console?11:17
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CelestianpowerI'm still having trouble11:18
tonyyarussotrappist: Either.11:18
trappisttonyyarusso: in a real console try setvesablank on11:18
ion_tonyarusso:you see we are three already...11:18
tonyyarussotrappist: Anything special to bring it back afterwards?11:18
shivHow do I make terminal transparent?11:18
NegativeSpacenickrud: Sorry but I'm really rather stupid, what's javadebs?11:19
trappisttonyyarusso: setvesablank off :)11:19
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nickrud!javadebs11:19
ion_tonyarusso:we growing fast....:)11:19
nickrudargh11:19
nickrud!tell NegativeSpace about javadebs11:19
tonyyarussotrappist: setvesablank on didn't do anything...11:19
tonyyarussoion_: Yep!11:19
trappisttonyyarusso: in X, xlock blank should do it11:20
onei edited /boot/grub/menu.lst so that nonaltoptions=lapic pci=biosirq but dmesg still says local apic disabled by bios - - you can enable it with 'lapic'.  Is this a grub bug ?11:20
Celestianpowertristanmike: Are you still here?11:20
nickrudNegativeSpace, if you got that message, go to Seveas11:20
trappistone: does /proc/cmdline reflect your grub changes?11:20
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CelestianpowerCan someone help me with Synaptic - it won't work11:21
CelestianpowerPlease11:21
gnomefreakCelestianpower: same issue?11:21
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yes11:21
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Celestianpower:'(11:21
Seveasrob, thanks for kicking the spammers11:21
tonyyarussotrappist: My suspend script uses 'vbetool dpms off' to do it.  I discovered that 'vbetool dpms on' is a bad idea though.11:21
robSeveas, np11:21
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gnomefreakok Celestianpower please paste me your sources.list so i can start there11:21
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: It's on there - I'll find it11:22
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NethThe Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.11:22
NethYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.11:22
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ion_tonyarusso:because I'm useing irssi right now but I don't how to use properly....11:22
gnomefreakCelestianpower: please paste me what you have in there now11:22
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Neththats the farthest i've gotten in fixing totem11:22
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tonyyarussotrappist: Although that's exactly what's in resume.sh11:22
NegativeSpacenickrud Cheers dude.11:22
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U2-buntuAnyone know how to install Freenet?  It hangs when I follow the wiki on the Ubuntuforum site...11:23
tonyyarussotrappist: Done manually on its own I got a screen that just cycled through colors and I had to hit the power button.11:23
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/997811:23
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nukeU2-buntu> go to the freenet website and read install instructions11:24
tonyyarussoion_: My irssi issue was by doing something dumb before I read the clarification in some #ubuntu-offtopic bantering...11:24
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: can you please paste exactly whats in the list now also11:24
ardchoilleIf a friend hooks up her Windows box to my switch, is there a way for me to open nautilus and browse that computer?11:24
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: That's what it says right now11:24
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biloypanyone ever use a keylogger called "uberkey"11:24
gnomefreakok hold on i wanna try something :)11:25
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U2-buntunuke: I have...can't find anything that answers my question...it hangs when I run the "sh start-freenet.sh" command...11:25
robbiloyp, take it elsewhere please, off topic11:25
ddonkyardchoille - yes if samba is installed and running on yours11:25
Nethbiloyp why would you wanna keylog? HMMM?11:25
biloyprob, where11:25
rob#ubuntu-offtopic11:25
ardchoilleddonky: oh, so it's samba that I need?11:25
ddonkyyes11:25
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biloypNeth... problem with gf daughter11:25
biloypok rob thx11:25
nukeU2-buntu and why does he hang? whats the output?11:25
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ardchoilleddonky: thanks11:26
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Please do11:26
Celestianpower)11:26
gnomefreakCelestianpower: what does uname -r say?11:26
amonroyfor some reason I am getting this errror when trying to ssh to my ubunutu box "Kerberos authentication disabled in SUID client". It happened all of the sudden.11:26
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ion_tonyarusso:well for example I don't waht I can do with irssi I mean how to run properly.....11:26
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amonroycould I have been hacked?11:26
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: uname -r?11:26
U2-buntuDetected freenet-ext.jar11:26
U2-buntuDetected freenet.jar11:26
U2-buntuSun java detected.11:26
U2-buntuSun Java 1.4.2 detected.11:26
U2-buntuStarting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main11:26
U2-buntuDone11:26
U2-buntucousindaddy@EDS:~/freenet$ os.arch = i38611:26
U2-buntuLoading native...11:26
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robbah, don't paste11:26
gnomefreakCelestianpower: in terminal type uname -r11:26
ddonkyer11:26
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Hystyaeolist, thanks for that k9copy link, it works sensationally well11:26
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: 2.6.12-10-38611:27
kwameHi, I just installed my laptop, it gives me 1024x768 resolution, but it supports 1400x1050, how can I change that?11:27
Nethbiloyp if you have a legit problem you should just buy a keylogger from a retailer. thatd be the easiest solution. the bought ones prolly work better than any hackers leylogger11:27
gnomefreakok ty11:27
tonyyarussoubotu: tell kwame about resolution11:27
aeolist:D11:27
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Sorry for being a pain11:27
gnomefreakCelestianpower: do me a favor and clear everything out of your sources.list and paste the one from the link i will be giving you11:28
Celestianpowergnomefreak: No problem11:28
gnomefreakCelestianpower: let me know when your ready11:28
Celestianpowergnomefreak: I'm ready now11:28
kwameHow do I find out what version of ubuntu I'm running?11:28
gnomefreakok here you go http://pastebin.com/59533011:29
ion_tonyarusso:sorry to ask but what you wanna do with your irssi ?11:29
gnomefreak!version11:29
ubotuwell, version is 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue'11:29
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wastrelthat's new11:29
kwametonyyarusso, thanks for the help :) reading the url11:29
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biloypNeth..ok thx I found a hardware solution but I would also like to get this to work just because11:29
kwameIn fedora I did a cat /etc/redhat-release, but don't know how to get that here in Ubuntu11:29
tonyyarussoion_: Actually that was more of a side note.  My main question now is the blanking.  For a bit there I had it not scrolling, and only showing the most current line of text.11:29
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: after you paste the bottom white part into you file save close and run sudo apt-get update and let me know :)11:30
Seveaskwame, /etc/lsb-release11:30
nickrudgnomefreak, I am lame. How did you get the debs for e17, please save me having to figure it out11:30
nuke!resolution11:30
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:30
gnomefreaklol nickrud11:30
recon00I'm looking for a freeware 2D movie maker, preferably easy to use. Any HELP?11:30
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kwameSeveas, thanks! one more question, is  Breezy the newest version?11:30
StazWhen Dual Booting XP and UBUNTU, In the UBUNTU install should the XP partition be set as "bootable" ?11:30
ion_tonyarusso:well so do I...11:30
Seveaskwame, Breezy is the latest stable11:30
nukeStaz no11:31
Nethbiloyp well since ive had no use/need/experience with keyloggers i guess i cant help you. i have failed you...and stuff11:31
tonyyarussokwame: Current, yes.  Dapper April 20th.11:31
kwameSeveas, cool!11:31
gnomefreaknickrud: went to the repo (site) and each package there is 4 things hold your mouse over it look at bottom it will tell you if its a deb or a tar or whatever it is11:31
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Stazthanks nuke11:31
biloypNeth..nah not at all..good suggestion11:31
NegativeSpaceHow do I set Firefox 1.5 to be the default browser?11:31
Seveastonyyarusso, don't be too certain about the date - sabdfl wants to postpone11:31
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Same as before11:31
tonyyarussoStaz: I believe that's correct, yes.  That's how my dual-boot is.11:31
Celestianpowergnomefreak: "0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] "11:31
gnomefreakCelestianpower: please paste the errors you are getting as of right now11:31
CelestianpowerThen nothing11:31
Nethbiloyp alright cool. you're the first person i've gotten to help on this chat11:31
SeveasCelestianpower, your dns is broken11:31
ion_tonyarusso:did you look on the irssi's  web page ?11:31
gnomefreakon pastebin11:31
tonyyarussoSeveas: Oh yeah?  I hadn't heard anything about that.  What's up?11:31
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yeah, obviously11:32
gnomefreakCelestianpower: did you see what Seveas said?11:32
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yes11:32
CelestianpowerDNS?11:32
CelestianpowerSounds serious11:32
tonyyarussoSeveas: If it's after the 29th I have to wait for ShipIt, b/c that's when I lose my school internet and go home to dialup.11:32
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tonyyarussoion_: Nah, just restarted it.11:32
gnomefreaknot sure what it stand for off hand11:33
gnomefreakserver i know :)11:33
recon00Does anybody know of a freeware 2D movie maker (kinda like flash)?11:33
Celestianpowergnomefreak: So how do I fix it?11:33
gnomefreakSeveas: dns = dynamic name server?11:33
tonyyarussoCelestianpower: Dynamic Name Server I think.  The thing that takes www.google.com and makes it an IP address.11:33
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CelestianpowerOh but how do I acces the internet then?11:34
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wastreldns is domain name system11:34
CelestianpowerI can surf all I like - and chat here11:34
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tonyyarussoCelestianpower: wastrel could very well be right as well.  I believe I have the function correct anyway.11:34
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Celestianpowertonyyarusso: But if that's broken - hoe can I be accessing the internet right now?11:35
Celestianpower*how11:35
tonyyarussoCelestianpower: That I don't know.11:35
jimakoshi everyone11:35
Celestianpowertonyyarusso: lol11:35
Celestianpower:P11:35
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wastrelCelestianpower:  are you using dhcp or manually configured network?11:35
gnomefreakCelestianpower: open up ff and go to www.google.com11:35
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Okay11:36
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Done11:36
SpCombthe same computer connects to freenode and resolves archive.ubuntu.com to 1.0.0.0 ?11:36
gnomefreakCelestianpower: answer wastrel11:36
wastreltonyyarusso:  dns = domain name system  :] 11:36
Celestianpowerwastrel: DHCP I think11:36
docgnomeis there a tool to convert from ogg to mp3?11:36
tonyyarussowastrel: 'k.  I stand corrected.11:36
Celestianpowertonyyarusso: Audacity should do it11:36
SpCombwhat do you get if you go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?11:37
Celestianpower*should = does11:37
nomasteryodaCelestianpower, you using a router?11:37
Celestianpowernomasteryoda: Yes11:37
tonyyarussoCelestianpower: What?11:37
nomasteryodaah, that's doing it for you ...11:37
shivwhen I boot I see 2 kernels. How do I get rid of the old one? Will this mess up things?11:37
nomasteryodai love my router11:37
Celestianpowertonyyarusso: Audacity, the program11:37
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SpCombwhat does it a router have to do with dns?11:37
nomasteryodaaudacity rocks!11:37
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tonyyarussoCelestianpower: Do what though?  What are you referring to?11:37
Celestianpowernomasteryoda: I know11:37
NegativeSpaceEgad, I type "su" at the terminal and enter my password only to be given an Authentication Error.11:37
gnomefreakshiv: you would get rid of it in synaptic but its not hurting anything by being there11:37
SpCombCelestianpower: what do you get if you go to http://security.ubuntu.com/ ?11:37
nomasteryodaSpComb, it grabs them from the network and feeds it when asked by the pcs11:37
SpCombno11:38
nomasteryodamine does11:38
shivgnomefreak: should I keep it then?11:38
Celestianpowertonyyarusso: Sorry, wrong person11:38
SpCombwhat does a router have to do with resolving security.ubuntu.com to 1.0.0.0 ?11:38
SpCombnothing11:38
tonyyarussoshiv: You can also take it out of the grub menu only if you want, but I just leave them there just in case.11:38
Celestianpowerdocgnome: Audacity'll do it for you11:38
gnomefreakshiv: i would it being there isnt helping or hurting you if you remove it theres no telling11:38
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g3nocidecan someone please send me xorgconfig11:38
gnomefreakSpComb: go into your router setting and look for dns11:38
gnomefreakits there11:38
CelestianpowerSpComb: Index of /Ubuntu11:38
shivhmm I see. I will leave it then11:39
wastrelCelestianpower:  so if you do something like  "host example.com"  at the command line - does it return an IP address?11:39
nomasteryodamine resolves to 82.211.81.13811:39
g3nocidei cant start x and setting it up using dpkg-reconfigure isnt working11:39
SpCombgnomefreak: that's the setting for the dns server11:39
SpCombhmm11:39
SpCombthat's weird, now11:39
SpCombhttp proxy?11:39
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docgnomeCelestianpower: yeah but i have a lot of files to do it to and would prefer soemthing i can tell to do everything in a dir11:39
themachinewhat plays .mov?11:39
g3nocideSpComb: can you send me xorgconfig ?11:39
SpCombhow can firefox resolve it right, but apt-get can't?11:39
nomasteryodamplayer, xine11:39
SpCombg3nocide: no... why do you ask?11:39
gnomefreakSpComb: good now if the dns settings are messed up whats gonna happen?11:39
nomasteryodafirefox with mplayerplug-in11:39
Celestianpowerdocgnome: Oh okay11:39
SpCombfirefox won't be able to reslve anything11:39
tonyyarussoSeveas: Do you have more info about what you said before?  I'm curious now.11:39
Celestianpowerwastrel: Yes11:40
gnomefreaktry pinging it11:40
SpCombbut since it can...11:40
CelestianpowerI'll pastebin the result11:40
SpCombthere is something weird11:40
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SpCombeverythign should just use the standard dns stuff, which uses /etc/resolv.conf11:40
Celestianpowerwastrel: http://pastebin.com/59537211:40
g3nocideSpComb: because i need it to properly set my horizontal/vertical refresh rates, because using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isnt working11:40
SpCombadnimistrator: that's so mispelled!11:40
g3nocidei cant startx at all11:40
Seveastonyyarusso, check the mailinglist archive for ubuntu-devel-announce11:40
g3nocidei get the no signal/blank screen/sync out of range message from my monitor11:41
gnomefreakubotu tell g3nocide about fixres11:41
SpCombasking random people seems pretty desperate11:41
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: And stuff pings11:41
tonyyarussoSeveas: Okay, where will I find that archive?11:41
SpComband no, I don't have X configured11:41
mnemnonicI have a question regaring double layer dvd writing ... anyone ever written a souble layer?11:41
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Seveastonyyarusso, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html11:41
mikebothey guys, i think easy ubuntu messed up my audio drivers, so iw as wondering if anyone knows how tog et rid of the error "failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10" in xmms11:41
tonyyarussoSeveas: Thanks.11:41
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SpCombCelestianpower: hmm, possibly try a apt-get update? that seems like something very, very weird11:41
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siggiI just cant install mplayer by using apt-get, anyone know how i can ?11:41
SpCombor do you happen to use a http proxy?11:41
gnomefreakhe cant update11:41
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SpCombtwisted11:42
CelestianpowerSpComb: Tried update thingy loads of times11:42
CelestianpowerSpComb: http proxy?11:42
SpCombthat a very silly thing11:42
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CelestianpowerNo idea11:42
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di have a problem with install 5.1011:42
SpCombas in, do you use a http proxy? if you do, you would have configured it yourself. so you probably haven't11:42
dit got stuck on 44% and i had to reboot11:42
CelestianpowerSpComb: Okay11:42
dany way to continue ? (this was after the cd was ejected)11:43
SpCombbah11:43
gnomefreakd: make sure the md5sum is correct11:43
NegativeSpaceI have a folder /usr/share/java -- should I install the JRE there?11:43
dganadist it is11:43
gnomefreakd: what speed did you burn it on?11:43
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di need to resume install coz it takes ages to start over11:43
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mikebothey guys, i think easy ubuntu messed up my audio drivers, so iw as wondering if anyone knows how tog et rid of the error "failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10" in xmms11:43
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StazCan someone please please please help me ? :( I get "Error loading operating system" on bootup. I have just installed GRUB during UBUNTU install.11:43
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wastrelyou can set a proxy for apt i believe.11:43
SpCombCelestianpower: as I'm sure everyone else is11:44
dspeed was 16x11:44
dcd's are 32x11:44
CelestianpowerSpComb: Oh lol11:44
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gnomefreakd: try burning it at like 2 if you can11:44
siggiI want to install mplayer with apl-get but it cant find it, what do i need to do ?11:44
dit said i could continue where i left off but there were no option to do so11:44
ProN00bwhy does ubuntu suck so much11:44
dis there  away to continue install ?11:44
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Do you have any more suggestions?11:44
wastrel!tell siggi about mplayer11:44
mikebot!paste11:44
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:44
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wastrelCelestianpower:  so example.com will resolve for you?11:44
gnomefreakProN00b: this is not the time nor the place for that please take it to #offtopic11:44
Celestianpowerwastrel: Oh ummmm11:45
NegativeSpaceI have a folder /usr/share/java -- should I install the JRE there? Or does it not matter where?11:45
dgnomefreak is there a way to resume installation ?11:45
gnomefreakCelestianpower: im almost tempted to say reset the router11:45
gnomefreakd: no11:45
dthen why did it say i could?11:45
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Celestianpowerwastrel: I'll pastebin11:45
SpCombit's not the router.....11:45
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dit said u can retry aggain but there was no option11:45
mnemnonic@NegativeSpace: Yes that's the right place11:45
dnow it just boots to login screen in prompt11:45
mikebotlast night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/997911:45
gnomefreakd: i dont remember ever being able to resume install after taking disk out11:45
Celestianpowerwastrel: http://pastebin.com/59538911:46
SpCombthe router only gives the dns server ip over DHCP, gnomefreak11:46
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ramza3with emacs, where is site-lisp normally located11:46
NegativeSpacemnemnonic: Cheers dude.11:46
dok is SSHD default run on first boot? i need to know because i am leaving the officd11:46
doffice11:46
gnomefreakCelestianpower: has this happened from the beginning? or is this something that happened the other day11:46
mikebotlast night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/997911:47
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Well, the beginning was the other day11:47
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wastrelCelestianpower:  something's weird- you can resolve names but i'm not sure what that malformed message packet error means.11:47
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: it has never worked?11:47
Celestianpowergnomefreak: It never worked, no11:47
Celestianpowerwastrel: Yeah :(11:47
wastrelCelestianpower:  your DNS is g00fy.  i also recommend resetting your router11:47
gnomefreakCelestianpower: i know your gonna hate this but i would reset router if that doesnt work re-install :(11:47
Celestianpowergnomefreak: I can't reinstall :(11:48
Celestianpower*can't = don't want to11:48
Celestianpowerwastrel: So long as I can get the internet back afterwards11:48
gnomefreakCelestianpower: what type of install did you do?>11:48
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Celestianpowergnomefreak: My friend installed by CD11:48
CelestianpowerBut he has the CD11:49
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wastrelCelestianpower:  what do you have in /etc/resov.conf11:49
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peipeihi al11:49
peipeihi all11:49
Celestianpowerwastrel: Nought11:49
NickGarveyhi11:49
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Celestianpowerwastrel: Nothing at all11:49
JonningsI've installed and selected the j2re1.5-sun, but i still get a damned message saying i need java runtime environment. What am i doing wrong?11:49
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mikebotlast night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/997911:49
peipeisome one have test xgl ?11:49
lampshadeI want to install anew kernel but I'm scared about messing up my video drivers I already have installed :-/11:49
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gnomefreakwastrel: if the friend set up a domain in the network menu could that cause this?11:50
SpCombwoah11:50
mnemnonic@mikebot: Probably you have to put the install CD in your drive ....11:50
gnomefreakpeipei: yes and its garbage11:50
SpCombCelestianpower: /Etc/resolv.conf is blank?11:50
nomasteryodalampshade, then don't if you compiled them11:50
SpComb*etc11:50
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CelestianpowerSpComb: Yes11:50
SpCombthat's not a good sign :O11:50
SpCombthat would explain some things11:50
SpCombalthough it wouldn't explain why firefox works11:50
CelestianpowerOh good11:50
Celestianpowerlol11:50
SpCombnext step is figuring out what should be in there....11:51
wastrelCelestianpower:  try putting the line   nameserver <your router IP address>    in /etc/resolv.conf11:51
peipeignomefreak, i have a breedzy badger can i have xgl ?11:51
SpCombWHAAT?11:51
SpCombrouter != DNS server11:51
gnomefreakpeipei: no11:51
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wastrelSpComb:  a lot of routers run chaching dns11:51
SpCombhow would that work?11:51
SpCombreally?11:51
peipeignomefreak, what version must i have ?11:51
djm62yep11:51
SpCombthat's interesting11:51
SpCombnever seen that before11:51
djm62izzat not how DHCP works?11:51
gnomefreakpeipei: dapper and its not worth the upgrade to be fully unstable11:51
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SpCombDHCP tells the dhclient what to put in /etc/resolv.conf11:52
gnomefreakpeipei: i advise waiting til atleast april11:52
SpComband that's all11:52
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lampshadenomasteryoda, I didn't compile them per say, but I did download them from the ATI website and somehow installed them like that, I d on't quite remember how I just followed one of the guides in the forums11:52
mnemnonicHas anyone ever written double layer DVD ?11:52
SpCombCelestianpower: you need to figure out (from your ISP/admin) what your DNS servers are11:52
Celestianpowerwastrel: Done11:52
SpCombor, if you have this silly router, then put that in there11:52
peipeignomefreak, april you says ... All right. That is not much long11:52
Celestianpower192.168.1.111:52
nomasteryodalampshade, ic11:52
nomasteryodajust find the site and follow guide11:52
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wastrelCelestianpower:  try again to run a host / nslookup / dig11:53
peipeignomefreak, thanks11:53
NegativeSpaceUm, I'm the only user on Ubuntu but I don't have root access, how can I get it?11:53
SpCombdig @192.168.1.1 google.com11:53
aeolisti finally did it! i hacked 127.0.0.111:53
Celestianpowerwastrel: Host does the same thing as it did before11:53
cwillusudo11:53
wastrel!tell NegativeSpace about root11:53
SpCombaeolist: congratulations!11:53
cwilluNegativeSpace:   sudo <command>11:53
djm62NegativeSpace: use sudo.  the syntax is "sudo commandtorunasroot11:53
SpCombtry hacking 127.45.7.43 next11:53
NegativeSpaceCheers guys.11:54
aeolist:D11:54
peipeignomefreak, what do you think about ogg video codec ?11:54
lampshadenomasteryoda, I guess my fear is that, once installing the new kernel, I might break something with the old kernel and its install of ATI.  If I knew for sure that messing around with the new kernel and following the guide wouldn't interfere, I would be ok with doing it11:54
SpCombCelestianpower: what does it say?11:54
SpCombor are you busy pinging out :/11:54
wastrelCelestianpower:  still that malformed packet error?11:54
Celestianpowerwastrel: Yes11:54
SpCombhmm, malformed packets now?11:54
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gnomefreakwastrel: wouldnt he need to reboot?11:54
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gnomefreakafter changing the resolv.config11:54
SpCombrebooting stuff might be a option... but a blank /etc/resolv.conf also says something11:55
gnomefreakconf11:55
wastrelgnomefreak:  i don't believe so - couldn't hurt :] 11:55
lsuactiafnerwhen i use mplayer -channels 6 and i play a file that has 6 channels 4/5 of my 5.1 speakers work. but when i play a 2 channel file only 2/5 speakers work, is there somethin i can tweak in alsa to detect 2 channel sound to make it use the other speakers also?11:55
tonyyarussoHow to change the amount of time sudo caches your password?11:55
SpCombif it doesn't work with the DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf, start rebooting :P11:55
gnomefreakCelestianpower: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf now?11:55
SpCombyou might have a smelly NIC/router ?11:55
Celestianpowergnomefreak: "nameserver 192.168.1.1"11:55
CelestianpowerNo need to pastebin that11:55
gnomefreakis that you routers ip?11:56
SpCombhmm11:56
Celestianpowergnomefreak: Yes11:56
gnomefreakCelestianpower: i know that11:56
gnomefreakok Celestianpower try reboot11:56
SpCombCelestianpower: try dig @192.168.1.1 google.com11:56
jjs01hhow can i configure xorg to do 1920x1280 on this lcd display (its the native resolution). it runs a max of 1600x1200 instead. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detects it as generic and sets it to do 1920x1280 but then x crashes if there isn't something to fall back on when that fails :11:56
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gnomefreakCelestianpower: would still reset router11:56
SpCombtry dig first11:56
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SpCombjust to check if the router is a caching DNS server11:56
Celestianpowergnomefreak: SpComb Pastebinning now11:56
gnomefreakeasier to do it all at once than spend an hr trying to figure out (oh damn all i needed to do was reset router)11:57
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jjs01hi don't know the timings. they  were "unavailable" in windows.. an inspiron 6000 btw11:57
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nuke!tell11:57
PhoulUmm11:57
gnomefreakwhile your pastbinning im going for a smoke11:57
PhoulHow do i get wmv's working11:57
CelestianpowerSpComb: http://pastebin.com/59540811:57
PhoulI checked ubutnu restricted11:57
PhoulAnd its not there11:57
gnomefreakubotu tell Phoul about codecs11:57
SpCombaha11:57
javi__alguien habla espaol?11:57
Celestianpowergnomefreak: I'll reset my router then11:57
SpCombCelestianpower: perfect... if it doesn't work with that in resolv.conf, reboot ;)11:57
Phoulgnomefreak,11:57
PhoulHow do i get them exactly11:58
SpCombas in, tried the apt-get again?11:58
gnomefreakPhoul:11:58
nukehow can i see what ubotu "knows"?11:58
tonyyarusso!es11:58
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:58
gnomefreakPhoul: read the pm ubotu gave you11:58
tonyyarussojavi__: ^11:58
SpCombif you are running chclient, be aware that that overwrites /etc/resolv.conf11:58
SpComb*dhclient11:58
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Phoulw32codecs11:58
javi__si?11:58
PhoulI have that one11:58
Phoul!easysource11:58
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:58
tonyyarussonuke: Sorry nuke, that was wrong.11:58
CelestianpowerWell, see you in a moment while I reset the router and reboot11:58
nuketonyyarusso ok11:59
SpCombI'm still confused how firefox managed to resolve stuff witha  empty resolv.conf :/11:59
tonyyarusso!searchthebotforwhatitknows-Ihopethisfactoiddoesn'texist11:59
cwillutonyyarusso:  I think its an option in sudoers11:59
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso11:59
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tonyyarussonuke: ^^11:59
tonyyarussocwillu: Okay, will look there.11:59
nukelol11:59

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