[12:00] <hal> i install them, and no change happens
[12:00] <hal> also i'm looking for a good codec pack
[12:00] <sinaduel> okay, I need a dvd ripping program that rips quickly, and properly. There must be such program otherwise, linux would not be so much better than woindows
[12:00] <Howdy125> dvdrip .. but it's not super fast ..
[12:01] <hal> anyone have some ideas?
[12:01] <meushi> gnite
[12:01] <ios> apokryfe ellhnas eisai???
[12:02] <Mikusss> bonsoir tt le monde
[12:02] <MacSlow> Does anybody know now one can record sound (voice via the mic) under normal Gnome?
[12:02] <ompaul> !fr
[12:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:02] <ufo> sinaduel, you could try lxdvdrip
[12:03] <ompaul> MacSlow, audicity and make sure you have all devices turnned on use alsamixer to make sure that volumes are up and you turn the volume up in the application
[12:03] <MacSlow> I can hear my voice alright (via this "echo") in the headphone, but e.g. using gnome-sound-recorder everything I record is just complete silence.
[12:03] <djm62> MacSlow: Main Menu->Sound and Video->Sound Recorder
[12:03] <sinaduel> okay
[12:03] <ompaul> MacSlow, audacity  sorry spelt it wrong
[12:03] <djm62> MacSlow: alsamixer to check the settings, then
[12:03] <ios> I would like to furnish licq however I cannot not an account add. It can help possibly man me??
[12:04] <MacSlow> ompaul, trying audacity (apt-getting)
[12:04] <sinaduel> where do you find lxdvdrip
[12:05] <MacSlow> djm62, hm... damn alsamixer gives ma a bunch of errors
[12:05] <ufo> sinaduel, http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lxdvdrip/
[12:05] <ompaul> MacSlow, used it for this http://www.archive.org/details/DRM_Nightmare_with_mad_laugh so it works - but make sure you have the volume in the app turned up
[12:06] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78,  nothing
[12:06] <Viper_0> :|
[12:06] <gimmulf> Hi, is there any good software if i want to resize 200 .bmp images
[12:06] <gimmulf> doing it manually in gimp feels gay :)
[12:07] <ompaul> !gay
[12:07] <ompaul> !+gay
[12:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[12:07] <kditty> im still having trouble with the netowrk configuration, is there a way to start from scratch? the live cd configuration tool sets my network up perfect but the install cd didnt
[12:07] <LjL> gimmulf: imagemagick, graphicsmagick, netpbm
[12:07] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, Sorry but I think you better set up apache as well and put that file under your document root... :o/
[12:07] <Pappan> kditty what is the problem u r having ?
[12:07] <ompaul> gimmulf, you can script gimp to do the work - never done it myself
[12:07] <MacSlow> ompaul, hm... I get the error "host error" for the initialization of the audio I/O-layer :/
[12:07] <gimmulf> oki
[12:07] <gimmulf> thanks
[12:08] <ompaul> MacSlow, okay first off have you any  music playing ability?
[12:08] <Enthusiast78> where do I put the wallpapers I download from www.gnome-look.org so that they're available to all users?
[12:08] <Enthusiast78> I believe it's under /usr/share/somewhere, maybe...
[12:08] <djm62> gimmulf: man convert
[12:08] <MacSlow> ompaul, sure all audio-related stuff works (xmms, rhythmbox, totem etc) so playback is ok
[12:09] <kditty> pappan, im on ubuntu live cd right now, and i can connect to the internet. so i installed 5.10 because i like this distro. well when i log on through normal boot mode to the ubuntu 5.10 thats on my harddrive, i cant connect to my network
[12:09] <Makura> djm62: On the Nvidia site, what OS choice do I choose to download drivers for?
[12:09] <gimmulf> djm62:  No manual entry for convert
[12:09] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, i can't move the file because it uses another files, from diferent locations
[12:09] <djm62> Makura: um... that's a matter for the wiki I feel
[12:09] <Makura> djm62: Okay, sorry =P
[12:09] <kditty> all i need to to share internet connection for right now, that will be fine with me until i get more used to linux, but it doesnt pick my network up when i run the shell thats on my harddisc, only when i run the live cd
[12:10] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, how can i change the webserver from /var/www to /
[12:10] <ompaul> MacSlow, have you used alsamixer to turn on the mic and other stuff?
[12:10] <Viper_0> ?
[12:10] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, You could try setting documentroot to that directory
[12:10] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, I guess you'll have to edit httpd.conf and set DocumentRoot and the related Directory entries to the directory you want instead.
[12:11] <__Lamont__> Any Samba experts here?
[12:11] <djm62> Makura: I don't have any nvidia stuff, other people here might be able to help you
[12:11] <Viper_0> Enthusiast78, i will try
[12:11] <ompaul> MacSlow, to test your sound do this : System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Preferences Selector; after that press on the Top test First .. then you should hear a tone
[12:11] <ompaul> MacSlow, is this the case
[12:11] <djm62> gimmulf: sudo aptitude install imagemagick
[12:11] <MacSlow> ompaul, wait, wait :) check out this http://en.pastebin.ca/45069
[12:12] <durga> looking for an alternative to amarok..any ideas ?
[12:12] <ompaul> MacSlow, have you started Multimedia Prefrences Selector
[12:12] <__Lamont__> I'm setting up a replacement samba server... existing one allows any user on a windows box to open all shares without passwords or prompts... I'd like to have a single share that does require a password, ideally from all clients, but I can't figure out how
[12:12] <MacSlow> ompaul, btw... I'm on dapper and don't ahve that in my System/Preferences menu
[12:12] <Enthusiast78> Viper_0, Good luck! :o)
[12:13] <ompaul> MacSlow, so go to the channel #ubuntu+1 that is where that gets discussed
[12:13] <MacSlow> ompaul, the closest thing I have is System/Preferences/Audio (german here btw)
[12:13] <ompaul> MacSlow, /join #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <Makura> djm62: How do I know whether I am running the 386 kernel or 686?
[12:14] <LjL> Makura: uname -r
[12:14] <bimberi> Makura: uname -r
[12:14] <Makura> Thanks!
[12:14] <sinaduel> how do I install
[12:14] <sinaduel> tgz files?
[12:15] <me2win> sinaduel, those are archive files
[12:15] <Jarigo> hey im havin trouble with smb4k
[12:15] <LjL> sinaduel: tgz files are simply compressed archives, much like ".zip" files. you don't actually install them
[12:15] <maruchan> stupid question is there shortcut to move through the desktops
[12:15] <Jarigo> smb4k_mount
[12:15] <Jarigo> um
[12:15] <Jarigo> #
[12:15] <sinaduel> okay
[12:15] <LjL> sinaduel: you can *extract* them. then, if they contain a program that can be installed, you should read the instructions that come with it
[12:15] <djm62> maruchan: ctrl-alt-leftarrow
[12:15] <Jarigo> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?
[12:15] <maruchan> thx
[12:15] <djm62> sinaduel: what, in high-level terms, are you trying to do?
[12:16] <LjL> sinaduel: to extract them, you should be able to just double-click on them. otherwise, "tar xf filename.tar.gz"
[12:16] <sinaduel> I am trying to install lxdvdrip to my computer
[12:16] <Jarigo> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?
[12:17] <sinaduel> did does not have a how-to file
[12:17] <LjL> sinaduel: doesn't it contain an INSTALL and/or a README file?
[12:17] <sinaduel> no
[12:17] <LjL> sinaduel: does it contain a file named "configure"?
[12:18] <sinaduel> oh, it has a readme file....but it is in german
[12:18] <venox> hey
[12:19] <djm62> sinaduel: type 'make' in that directory
[12:19] <richie_> Hey guys.  I need help removing an entry on the GNOME panel under Places.  How do I do it?
[12:19] <blanky> Hello guys
[12:19] <blanky> how is everyone doing
[12:19] <sinaduel> I found the english readme, I will follow it until I get stuck, so thankyou for your help
[12:19] <blanky> I'd just like to know if anyone here has ever used nasm
[12:20] <Jarigo> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) Any ideas?
[12:20] <venox> I got ubuntu livecd working nicely, but I'm having trouble with the localized language I've selected while booting it. I've selected brazilian portuguese, but just few things are in portuguese, most of the system is in english. is this a WIP or something? or will it be entirely in portuguese when I install it to my hdd? (I'm using ubuntu 5.10)
[12:20] <rantak> richie: open nautilus and edit bookmarks
[12:20] <knvinh__> has anyone try to run 2 X-Windows in one machine?
[12:21] <knvinh__> just a question :D
[12:21] <__Lamont__> Jarigo: Did you search online for info on how to do that? I don't know much of anything, but I do recall seeing a comment pertaining to allowing non-root users to mount things
[12:21] <me2win> knvinh__, what do you mean?
[12:21] <Jarigo> yea i tried still not working
[12:22] <__Lamont__> Jarigo: What did you try?
[12:22] <Jarigo> chown -v root smbmnt; chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[12:22] <redguy> cat /dev/random /dev/dsp
[12:23] <knvinh__> me2win: I mean that how to run both KDE , GNOME concurrently? just a question
[12:23] <djm62> knvinh__: yeah, I used to do so
[12:23] <venox> so. nobody knows anything about the ubuntu translations? :P
[12:23] <CrazyOne> i have a fujifilm camera, and when I try to mount it to take images I am getting an error about etc/fstab
[12:23] <redguy> oops
[12:23] <me2win> knvinh__, i have gnome, kde, and xfce all on my computer
[12:23] <knvinh__> me2win: can you start GNOME while you are running KDE?
[12:24] <me2win> knvinh__, not that im aware of...
[12:24] <__Lamont__> Jarigo: Won't that just change the permissions on the smbmount, as opposed to changing what user it runs as?
[12:24] <CrazyOne> anybody know what the problem could be?  exact error "Warning: device /dev/sdf1 is already handled by /etc/fstab"
[12:24] <Jarigo> that what it said to do __Lamont__
[12:24] <me2win> CrazyOne, are you trying to mount something that has already been mounted?
[12:24] <knvinh__> me2win: I am wondering wether it is possible
[12:24] <djm62> CrazyOne: that's not an error, it's a warning
[12:24] <CrazyOne> me2win I dont think so, all I did was connect my camera, switch it on and I get that
[12:25] <me2win> hmm
[12:25] <CrazyOne> djm62 I still cant access the camera, tells me it cannout mount device
[12:25] <jorge_> wassup guys
[12:25] <jorge_> hello
[12:25] <jorge_> :)
[12:25] <LjL> the sky
[12:25] <__Lamont__> Jarigo: What do you want the user to be able to do, specifically?
[12:25] <jorge_> it's me blanky hehe just testing out the irssi stuff, pretty neat
[12:26] <Jarigo> im trying to mount a folder __Lamont__
[12:26] <Jarigo> and i get this error
[12:26] <CrazyOne> ok there is another line "Captive-ERROR **: image_iochannel failed open of: /dev/sdf1"
[12:26] <LjL> Lamount?
[12:26] <Jarigo> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[12:26] <__Lamont__> Are you trying from a shell?
[12:27] <Jarigo> no
[12:28] <__Lamont__> What is running your mount attempt command?
[12:28] <aguthrie> I get an error about not being able to load the human theme because it couldn't recognize the file format for /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/background.png.
[12:28] <dan_> ohh
[12:28] <dan_> hi
[12:28] <CrazyOne> anybody? :\
[12:28] <aguthrie> I cannot use the "alternate" login thing either. everything is grayed out.
[12:28] <aguthrie> including the box where I enter my username, and the ok/cancel buttons.
[12:28] <dan_> I have installed, configured, experimented, and loved ubuntu
[12:29] <dan_> :)
[12:29] <IdleOne> dan_>  :)
[12:29] <aguthrie> dan_: glad to hear...
[12:29] <Jalal> hey
[12:29] <shiv> how do u start programs in Wine? I installed wine and now also installed program. It shows me correct paths and all that. Now how do I run it?
[12:29] <IdleOne> hey
[12:29] <aguthrie> background.png: PNG image data, 1600 x 1200, 8-bit/color RGB, interlaced
[12:29] <aguthrie> that looks ok to me...
[12:30] <aguthrie> shiv: winex <program> iirc.
[12:30] <IdleOne> shiv>  in terminal cd to the directory where the .exe is then type wine programname.exe
[12:30] <Jalal> i just tried to read some files from my floppy drive and it didn't work, said it wasn't mounted. So i typ;ed mount /media/floppy in the terminal and it gave me an "I could not determine the filesystem type"
[12:30] <Aaron_Mason> !opengl
[12:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason
[12:30] <Jalal> Majed, where are you from?
[12:30] <__Lamont__> Jarigo: I just started with Ubuntu but I am able to make mount -t smbfs work (though I run it as root from a shell)
[12:30] <knvinh__> me2win: Ok , i found the answer : startx -- :<displaynumber>
[12:30] <Majed> Jalal lebanon
[12:30] <Majed> u ?
[12:30] <slide> Does anyone know of something like quicken for gnome? Or has anyone gotten quicken to work, maybe in wine?
[12:30] <Jalal> Syria
[12:31] <Jalal> my bro's name is Majd :)
[12:31] <Jarigo> nvm __Lamont__  fixed it
[12:31] <knvinh__> me2win: 2 KDEs in one comp :D
[12:31] <aguthrie> slide: there is an open-souce program, but the name is escaping me atm.
[12:31] <Majed> Jalal well greetings ya jar :)
[12:31] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know what package has the file /usr/include/GL/glu.h?
[12:31] <Jarigo> theres super user option
[12:31] <dan_> I am from Pakistan
[12:31] <Majed> oh that's ncie
[12:31] <Jalal> haha
[12:31] <Jarigo> goin now thanks
[12:31] <Jarigo> cya
[12:31] <Jalal> yeah
[12:31] <Majed> bye
[12:31] <slide> aguthrie, im using 'KMyMoney' but it well, isnt that great (not to mention its kde! ugh)
[12:31] <Majed> Greetings guys
[12:31] <aguthrie> slide: there's another one...
[12:32] <__Lamont__> Any Samba experts here?
[12:32] <aguthrie> slide: I recently saw it mentioned on slashdot.
[12:32] <Majed> umm can anyone plz help me ( patience is a must :P im a newbie)
[12:32] <slide> aguthrie, ok thanks ill search there
[12:32] <IdleOne> Majed>  ask away if someone can help they will :)
[12:33] <Jalal> i just tried to read some files from my floppy drive and it didn't work, said it wasn't mounted. So i typ;ed mount /media/floppy in the terminal and it gave me an "I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"
[12:33] <Majed> oh i thought we shouldn't prv ppl :)
[12:33] <IdleOne> Majed>  ask in here
[12:33] <HymnToLife> Jalal> which FS is your flopppy formatted in ?
[12:34] <Majed> IdleOne ic :)
[12:34] <Jalal> HymnToLife, I dont' really know what you mean but i took the floopy out of the case, plugged it into my win xp machine, put some files on it, tryin to read them in linux
[12:34] <__Lamont__> #
[12:34] <Jalal> oh, forgot to mention i'm a noob :)
[12:34] <HymnToLife> hmmm that's weir
[12:34] <IdleOne> Jalal>  what kind of files?
[12:35] <Jalal> the box says they'r IBM formatted if that helps
[12:35] <HymnToLife> your floppy should be eithe FAT or NTFS if you could write on it from xp
[12:35] <Jalal> IdleOne, just a couple of .txt files
[12:35] <IdleOne> .txt shouldnt be a problem
[12:35] <Majed> well i want to get access as root however i don't know the password, coz i think that ubunto do not prompt u to add a password for root during the instalations. i think there is a command for the shell to change/set the pass, anyone knows it ?
[12:35] <LjL> HymnToLife: does windows llow ntfs formatting for floppies?
[12:35] <jon_> sudo passwd
[12:35] <IdleOne> Majed>  root is locked in ubuntu
[12:35] <LjL> !tell Majed about root
[12:36] <moeppel> Majed: use sudo
[12:36] <LjL> jon_: don't advice doing that please
[12:36] <Howdy125> yup ..
[12:36] <HymnToLife> dunno
[12:36] <jon_> LjL, Fair enough.  I did it at home to just have a root password that I know and can use.
[12:36] <HymnToLife> it's been a while since I used floppies
[12:36] <Majed> moeppel sudo that's it :D bad memory i have :P thanks
[12:36] <Jalal> yeah same here
[12:36] <moeppel> np ;)
[12:36] <LjL> jon_: but it can cause a couple of problems. also, what's wrong with sudo?
[12:37] <HymnToLife> jalal > try mount -t vfat /media/floppy
[12:37] <jon_> LjL, I use sudo for basically everything, but I like having my own root password.
[12:37] <Jalal> would it be a problem if i formatted the disk in FAT?
[12:37] <IdleOne> Jalal>  that should work
[12:37] <dan_> how do I install programs from a .rpm archive?
[12:38] <HymnToLife> I think if's aready in FAT
[12:38] <IdleOne> dan_>  you dont
[12:38] <dan_> I am trying to install real player for linux
[12:38] <LjL> jon_: i see - well it's your choice, but when someone comes in with no clue about the way ubuntu handles root, please point them to !sudoroot or !root ... if they still want to have a "real" root password, they'll ask
[12:38] <blanky> !realplayer
[12:38] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <jon_> LjL, Gotcha. ;)
[12:38] <IdleOne> !tell dadn about realplayer
[12:38] <HymnToLife> dan you can get a deb for it
[12:38] <Jalal> HymnToLife, that gave me a list of flags i can use, but i have no idea what to do
[12:38] <dan_> deb?
[12:38] <IdleOne> ubuntu is debian based so it usus .deb
[12:38] <LjL> dan_: Ubuntu doesn't use RPMs, it uses DEBs.
[12:39] <moeppel> dan why do you want the realplayer? you can use mplayer or totem for everything
[12:39] <dollar> how can i login as root to kde //
[12:39] <dan_> ok
[12:39] <jannov> why i cant exit from game Racer, when i bouncing ESC key, i cant go back to game menu simply
[12:39] <dan_> ok
[12:39] <HymnToLife> dollar> you don't
[12:39] <HymnToLife> use sudo for heaven's sake !
[12:39] <dollar> HymnToLife, I do..
[12:39] <polpak> ^^ what he said
[12:39] <LjL> dan_: also, while you can install a DEB manually (might be the case with real player), you usually use the APT system, which downloads, install and solves dependencies automatically
[12:39] <dollar> I need it..
[12:39] <dollar> How can I do it ?
[12:39] <polpak> dollar, why?
[12:39] <IdleOne> what is so special about root?
[12:39] <HymnToLife> why do people always want to login as root ?
[12:39] <nalioth> dollar: you can't.   /msg ubotu root
[12:40] <moeppel> IdleOne: he's mighty ;)
[12:40] <larsemil> dollar, sudo su-
[12:40] <dan_> LjL, for that i will have to use ADD APPLICATIONS interface? right?
[12:40] <dollar> i think it's my pc guys ?
[12:40] <Jalal> Don't know if it helps, but it also says "Warning: device /dev/fd0 is already handled by /etc/fstab.
[12:40] <dollar> can you help me ornot?
[12:40] <IdleOne> moeppel>  sudo is just as mighty
[12:40] <moeppel> hehe :P
[12:40] <LjL> dan_: that is a very simplified interface, which only allows installing few programs
[12:40] <HymnToLife> yes, better us synaptic
[12:40] <IdleOne> dollar>  we told you you cant login as root not cuase we dont wantyou to but because you cant
[12:40] <LjL> dan_: you should either use apt-get (as explained by Ubotu), or Synaptic, which is a graphical interface (Ubotu will tell you about it now)
[12:40] <polpak> dollar, we can, but we want to know why you'd want to do such a thing. Your question belies a fundamental misunderstanding about how things work
[12:41] <dollar> I used to do it before.. but I forgot how, some guy helped me out
[12:41] <dan_> LjL, great :)
[12:41] <khafra> I installed a "kernel headers" package and ended up with two directories, linux-headers-2.6.12-10, and linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386.  How does one determine which one is, so to speak, the real slim shady?
[12:41] <LjL> dan_: also, right now, you only have access to 5000 programs or so. you'd probably like to also have access to another 12000 programs that are available. the bot will tell you how to do that, as well
[12:41] <larsemil> dollar, as i said. sudo su - gives u root
[12:41] <dollar> larsemil,  i know that.
[12:41] <crimsun> khafra: it's the latter
[12:41] <ompaul> !tell dollar about root
[12:42] <khafra> crimsun: Thanks!
[12:42] <dan_> LjL,  My goodness
[12:42] <nalioth> larsemil: please don't advise that, you'll break parts of ubuntu that way
[12:42] <crimsun> khafra: the former holds base; the latter extends it specifically for your current kernel
[12:42] <polpak> dollar, can you explain why it is so vitally necessary?
[12:42] <dan_> how do I know which programs are best for my ubuntu?
[12:42] <ompaul> dollar, wat you want is toward the bottom of that page and it is not a good thing to do as you suggest but like they say - have it your way
[12:42] <crimsun> khafra: the rule of thumb is always to use linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:42] <LjL> larsemil: "sudo -i" should be used for root access
[12:42] <crimsun> khafra: and as you can see, $(uname -r) will point you to the correct one
[12:42] <LjL> dan_: what do you mean "best"?
[12:42] <dan_> LjL,  I have totem but i dont like it
[12:42] <nalioth> !headers
[12:42] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:42] <khafra> crimsun: And now you've taught me how to fish, double thanks
[12:42] <larsemil> nalioth, as he says, its his computer - if he asks, he will recieve an answer. i am not much for cencur
[12:42] <LjL> dan_: well, you'll mostly have to try them out
[12:43] <dan_> LjL,  I want to know what most people use and prefer you know what i mean?
[12:43] <Theron> how do i setup 2 monitors and have the desktop span across both monitors?  I googled for specifac info, and am unable to find anything yet.
[12:43] <LjL> dan_: what's "best" is a matter of opinions
[12:43] <nalioth> larsemil: no need to censor, sudo will do anything one needs as superuser
[12:43] <dan_> yeah right
[12:43] <polpak> Therion, what kind of video card?
[12:43] <HymnToLife> dan_ > VLC for me :)
[12:43] <dollar> How can I open my other NTFS partitions? with nautilus even if im not root ?
[12:43] <Theron> its an nvidia
[12:43] <nalioth> larsemil: education is necessary.
[12:43] <HymnToLife> !tell dolllar about ntfs
[12:43] <larsemil> nalioth, i know that. but that was not an answer for his question. now off to bed.
[12:43] <dan_> VLC ??
[12:43] <LordMelkor> when i change permissions for a folder or file
[12:43] <LordMelkor> what is
[12:43] <LjL> dan_: most well-known programs for watching videos are, besides the one shipped with ubuntu, mplayer and vlc
[12:43] <LordMelkor> Group
[12:43] <nalioth> dollar: if you can't open your partitions, being root aint gonna help you
[12:43] <polpak> dollar, they have to be mounted
[12:44] <aguthrie> how do I start gdm from a vterm?
[12:44] <dollar> polpak,  how can I mount them ?
[12:44] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> it's the second level of permissions
[12:44] <larsemil> dollar, umask=222 in fstab i think
[12:44] <LjL> aguthrie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:44] <dan_> I mean this is really great
[12:44] <HymnToLife> you have three (owner, group, world) for basically anything
[12:44] <polpak> !tell dollar about ntfs
[12:44] <aguthrie> LjL: thanks.
[12:44] <LordMelkor> can i make my current account a "Group"
[12:44] <HymnToLife> and you can specify different permissions for each
[12:44] <IdleOne> !tell dollar  about mount
[12:44] <polpak> dollar, read the guide ubotu sent you
[12:45] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> yes, each time a user is created, a group with the same name is also created
[12:45] <LjL> LordMelkor: no, users are a separate thing from group. what are you trying to accomplish?
[12:45] <polpak> LordMelkor, a group is intended to give permissions for a set of users
[12:45] <eletido> where do i get the build-esstentials package?
[12:45] <LjL> eletido: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[12:45] <polpak> eletido, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <moeppel> this channel is definitely too crowded :8
[12:45] <IdleOne> eletido>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <LordMelkor> can i grant that permission to myself what i am doing is that im open permissions for my firefox plugins folder
[12:45] <Theron> any ideas polpak
[12:45] <LordMelkor> to my current account
[12:45] <HymnToLife> moeppel> have a trip on #debian
[12:46] <HymnToLife> you'll see a crowded channel :p
[12:46] <LjL> moeppel: it is, but we do try to answer questions.
[12:46] <eletido> hmm, cant find the package
[12:46] <eletido> thats odd.
[12:46] <polpak> Therion, you need to first install the nvidia driver
[12:46] <LordMelkor> but i dont want to leave a security hole by enabling it to everyone
[12:46] <Theron> I did that
[12:46] <polpak> Theron, or rather
[12:46] <LjL> eletido: "build-essential", not "build-essentials"
[12:46] <IdleOne> tell eletido  about repositories
[12:46] <Therion> polpak: No I don't. ;)
[12:46] <polpak> Theron, oh, then you should be able to set your TwinView settings
[12:46] <moeppel> Ljl> i see :)
[12:46] <polpak> Therion, yeah, sorry =o
[12:46] <Theron> polpak, using nvidia settings right?
[12:46] <dollar> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /ntfs1 busy
[12:46] <dollar> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda1
[12:46] <polpak> Theron, yeah, I believe so
[12:47] <LjL> LordMelkor: uh, just set the files you want to be able to access as owned by your user, and give no permissions to others
[12:47] <eletido> hmm, nvm. i need to learn how to spell. thanks for the help
[12:47] <polpak> dollar, ok, then you should be able to access it
[12:47] <aguthrie> LjL: that does not appear to be doing anything. it seems that gdm didn't start when ubuntu did.
[12:47] <sHaDe> n8 all
[12:47] <dollar>  polpak  i cant..
[12:47] <polpak> dollar, as your normal user?
[12:47] <LjL> aguthrie: can you start X using "startx"?
[12:47] <dollar> polpak,  yes
[12:47] <aguthrie> LjL: one sec.
[12:47] <LordMelkor> LjL i need root to access it though, can root access anyones stuff?
[12:47] <eletido> !build-essentail
[12:47] <ubotu> eletido: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:47] <LjL> LordMelkor: yes
[12:48] <LordMelkor> kk
[12:48] <dollar>  I cant even see the ntfs drives in media;/
[12:48] <aguthrie> LjL: maybe `sudo startx'?
[12:48] <polpak> dollar, ls -al /media doesn't list anything?
[12:48] <HymnToLife> dollar > have you followed ubotu's link ?
[12:48] <Theron> polpak, ok... nvidia settings only see's crt0
[12:48] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[12:48] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:48] <LjL> aguthrie: uhm, no, should be just startx
[12:48] <dollar> yes
[12:48] <Theron> polpak, the second one isn't listed.
[12:48] <dollar> polpak,
[12:48] <dollar> dollar@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/hda1 /ntfs1
[12:48] <dollar> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:48] <polpak> HymnToLife, it's mounted. he just can't access it. Probably due to permissions
[12:48] <aguthrie> LjL: can you go to #flood?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> polpak> I'm quie sure it's explained how to change it
[12:49] <dollar> polpak, it does..
[12:49] <HymnToLife> I might be wrong though
[12:49] <dollar> polpak, but all of  them are root root
[12:49] <polpak> dollar, that's not the right mount command
[12:49] <starla> /close
[12:49] <starla> oops
[12:49] <LordMelkor> ggkkthxbai
[12:50] <Theron> polpak,  I will work on it some more later.  ty for your help though.  gotta run
[12:50] <eletido> is there a keyboard shortcut that changes the current workspace?
[12:50] <cfk> wow - using Gaim for IRC is going to confuse the people that need to get here
[12:51] <dollar> polpak, Couldn't change the permissions of "hda1" because it is on a read-only disk
[12:51] <Kr4t05> !pastebin
[12:51] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:51] <blanky> !ati
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:51] <polpak> dollar, you need to sudo umount /dev/hda1
[12:52] <blanky> hey guys, since ATI made 'useable' and good drivers now ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ), should I use those over the ubuntu provided? I think they'd be newer, right?
[12:52] <ufo> !ati
[12:52] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:52] <ufo> blanky, use the last thread
[12:52] <RichardC> since ubuntu 5.04 works on my computer, would it be faster to install from the 5.04 cd i already have, and then upgrade to 5.10, or would it be faster to download the 5.10 iso at 100kb/s and then install?
[12:53] <blanky> okay...even though I did that just now
[12:53] <dollar> polpak,  it's still not working
[12:53] <polpak> dollar, umount didn't work?
[12:53] <adam_> hello, I use dapper but openoffice.org doesn't install >:|
[12:53] <dollar> polpak, it did
[12:53] <adam_> very weird >_>
[12:53] <dollar> polpak, but i cant see anything in it now
[12:53] <adam_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:53] <adam_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-us: Conflicts: openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us
[12:53] <adam_>   openoffice.org2-writer: Depends: python-uno (> 2.0.1) but it is not going to be installed
[12:53] <adam_> E: Broken packages
[12:53] <polpak> dollar, that's fine
[12:53] <dan_> alrite
[12:53] <polpak> dollar, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[12:54] <cameronh> ubuntu only managed to install to command line, what command would i now run to install gnome/gdm/X etc.
[12:54] <cfk> thanks blanky - I was about to ask "how .. ati?"
[12:54] <dollar> yeah
[12:54] <dollar> just a secx
[12:54] <dan_> how do I get the latest version of firefox on ubuntu installed again
[12:54] <blanky> ufo, my question was if I should use ATI's or ubuntu's
[12:54] <dollar> sex*
[12:54] <dan_> I'll admit it, I suck at linux so far
[12:54] <nalioth> RichardC: you'll end up with the same software
[12:54] <dan_> haha
[12:54] <Kr4t05> I'm getting a dependancy error when I compile.
[12:54] <Seveas> !tell Kr4t05 about compiling
[12:54] <chrisw69> can anyone tell me how to put c/c++ on my ubuntu linux?
[12:54] <RichardC> nalioth: yup, that's why im wonder which is faster
[12:54] <cj> dan_: it's okay.  we were all there at one point... some might argue that we're still there :)
[12:54] <Seveas> !tell chrisw69 about compiling
[12:54] <blanky> and yes cfk, ATI is improving their drivers
[12:54] <rob_> is there a way to access the itunes music store in ubuntu?
[12:54] <polpak> chrisw69, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:54] <slide> aguthrie, are you thinking of GnuCash? b/c it sucks even worse heh
[12:54] <nalioth> RichardC: the 5.04 cd will be faster probably, cuz  ya won't have to download everything
[12:55] <cfk> so the fglrx driver isn't going to work with my: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS ?
[12:55] <DarthVader> i need please new source.list where i find this?
[12:55] <chrisw69> thx
[12:55] <polpak> !sources
[12:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:55] <Seveas> !tell DarthVader about repos
[12:55] <aguthrie> slide: maybe... that doesn't sound right, though.
[12:55] <RichardC> nalioth: alright
[12:55] <DarthVader> yes
[12:55] <Kr4t05> Seveas: Yeah, but, when I try to get the needed packages, it says they are current
[12:55] <dollar> polpak, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=58922
[12:55] <rob_> is there a way to access the itunes music store in ubuntu?
[12:55] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9934
[12:56] <dollar> polpak, all I need to do is write and read hda1 and hd6 when imlogged in as normal usr
[12:56] <HymnToLife> !itunes
[12:56] <ubotu> [itunes]  a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[12:56] <Seveas> Kr4t05, you need the -dev packages - see that wikipage
[12:56] <Kr4t05> Seveas, I know how to compile.
[12:56] <DarthVader> where i find new repos (source.list)?
[12:56] <polpak> dollar, writing to ntfs partitions is not allowed
[12:56] <LjL> !tell DarthVader about repos
[12:56] <rob_> thank you
[12:56] <Seveas> Kr4t05, apparently not, otherwise you wouldn't be asking...
[12:56] <polpak> dollar, the driver doesn't support it
[12:56] <Kr4t05> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9934
[12:56] <dollar> polpak, can I read as normal user/ and how can I do it?
[12:56] <Kr4t05> Seveas, read that, smart-ass
[12:56] <slide> aguthrie, cbb, QHacc, Moneydance or gAcc?
[12:56] <polpak> dollar, yep
[12:57] <matt_> whats the command to install jave run time environment in ubuntu?
[12:57] <Seveas> Kr4t05, watch your language
[12:57] <polpak> dollar, you need to sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:57] <Seveas> !tell matt_ about java
[12:57] <matt_> i looked on the sun website and its a .bin file
[12:57] <nalioth> Kr4t05: there is no need for that attitude
[12:57] <Kr4t05> Seveas, yes, sir.
[12:57] <dollar> polpak, and what do i change ?
[12:57] <rob_> !ati
[12:57] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:57] <Seveas> Kr4t05, and read that wikipage - it explains it all..
[12:57] <Kr4t05> nalioth: I just don't appreciate being treated like a noob
[12:57] <Genfoo> what do I need to go to install openoffice.org on dapper?
[12:57] <LjL> Kr4t05: you gotta install libglib1.2-dev
[12:57] <matt_> sorry didn't even think about looking at the help..... some times my figers start typing before i start thinking
[12:57] <LjL> !tell Kr4t05 about compile
[12:58] <Seveas> Kr4t05, if you act like one you're treated like one
[12:58] <ompaul> Kr4t05, and I don't like bad language
[12:58] <rob_> HymnToLife, i did the apt-get for sharpmusiqu, what repository would it likely be in
[12:58] <nalioth> Kr4t05: seveas treats us all like newbs, why should you be different?
[12:58] <Genfoo> :o just read the topic
[12:58] <ompaul> Kr4t05, or name calling ..
[12:58] <aguthrie> slide: honestly, I can't remember. :P I think I may have it bookmarked, but I am not in the condition to be able to access those right now. :|
[12:58] <HymnToLife> dunnoI've never used it
[12:58] <slide> heh k
[12:58] <Genfoo> sorry Seveas for flooding :(
[12:58] <LjL> Kr4t05: sorry, but if you don't know that to compile stuff you need *dev* packages and not the plain binary packages, you are... well perhaps not a newbie, dunno, but you don't know that much.
[12:58] <dollar> polpak, what do I need to change?
[12:58] <polpak> dollar, you need to change the option for those entries
[12:58] <Kr4t05> Well, I guess I'm not worth the time or effort.
[12:58] <polpak> dollar, from default
[12:59] <dollar> polpak, I have no idea how to do that
[12:59] <LordMelkor> my XV outputs are always really dark is there anyway i can increase the brightness/gamma of the XV output withouht manually adjusting varius players everytime i play something?
[12:59] <Seveas> sigh
[12:59] <Seveas> some people are beyond help
[12:59] <rob_> !key
[12:59] <ubotu> rob_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:59] <chrisw69> can anyone tell me why my music files aren't playing btw?
[12:59] <LordMelkor> would that be me?
[12:59] <ompaul> fy-msg
[12:59] <chrisw69> THey are mp3 files and says unrecognised media
[12:59] <ompaul> fy-msg
[01:00] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[01:00] <polpak> dollar, change it to ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[01:00] <ryan_ishere> I GOT NO SOUND?!!?
[01:00] <LordMelkor> Seveas: you werent refering to me were you?
[01:00] <ryan_ishere> well on my mplayer
[01:00] <Seveas> ryan_ishere, drop the caps
[01:00] <polpak> dollar, instead of default
[01:00] <ompaul> Seveas, issue with editor
[01:00] <ompaul> :/
[01:00] <Seveas> LordMelkor, not at all
[01:00] <nalioth> he's trying to run a command, Seveas
[01:00] <dollar> ok
[01:00] <nalioth> trying for world domination, ompaul is
[01:00] <DarthVader> help, i need a new source.list for my apt
[01:00] <DarthVader> ?
[01:00] <polpak> dollar, before you save, pastebin the file
[01:00] <LjL> Seveas: if he wasn't blinded by the anger, perhaps he'd have tried my suggestion to install libglib1.2-dev. i'm quite sure it would have worked......
[01:00] <polpak> dollar, so I can check it
[01:00] <ryan_ishere> anyone got a fix
[01:01] <polpak> !tell DarthVader about sources
[01:01] <Seveas> LjL, so am I
[01:01] <Seveas> but if he doesn't even bother to read a wikipage I consider him beyond help
[01:01] <LordMelkor> ryan_ishere try checking what is selected for you sound modules
[01:01] <LordMelkor> in mplayer
[01:01] <ryan_ishere> how do i do that?
[01:01] <LordMelkor> ryan_ishere click configure
[01:01] <LordMelkor> then audio
[01:01] <dollar> ok
[01:02] <dollar> just a second polpak
[01:02] <ryan_ishere> where is configure?
[01:02] <Genfoo> ryan_ishere, in .
[01:02] <LordMelkor> the wrench picture
[01:02] <Tweed> Hello all, can anybody give me a pointer as to how to get the network panel to appear - running on a laptop and networking didn't auto configure when I installed .. now the network gui refuses to appear
[01:02] <Seveas> Genfoo, no, different context ;)
[01:02] <dollar> polpak, http://pastebin.com/593571
[01:02] <Kr4t05> Seveas: I'd like to apologize.
[01:02] <dollar> is that correct?
[01:02] <HymnToLife> Tweed> gksudo network-admin
[01:02] <ryan_ishere> what should it say as my output?
[01:02] <LordMelkor> my XV outputs are always really dark is there anyway i can increase the brightness/gamma of the XV output withouht manually adjusting varius players everytime i play something? (i know i already wrote this but new people have joined :D)
[01:03] <chrisw69> can anyone help me? I want to play mp3's on here but I keep getting the error unrecognised media
[01:03] <lafferpt> hello
[01:03] <LordMelkor> ryan_ishere: if your current selection doesnt work try something else
[01:03] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[01:03] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:03] <LordMelkor> like OSS
[01:03] <lafferpt> does anyone has installed qmail?
[01:03] <LordMelkor> or ALSA
[01:03] <Kr4t05> Seveas: I acted like a n00b. And hence I got treated like one, and then, got offended. I'm sorry.
[01:04] <ryan_ishere> i have a problem with the video on Mplayer too should i try to fix it in video configure list?
[01:04] <Jalal> i have a laptop that's hooked up to the internet through wireless...is there a way to get internet on my desktop through my laptop?
[01:04] <LordMelkor> sure
[01:04] <Tweed> gksudo network admin appears to do nothing at all
[01:04] <ryan_ishere> mplayer just crashed
[01:04] <ryan_ishere> as nice as ubuntu is it can fuckin suck sometimes
[01:04] <LordMelkor> then open it and try again
[01:04] <dollar> polpak, is it correct ?
[01:04] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how I down-grade XMMS to 1.2.7?
[01:04] <HymnToLife> try 'network-admin' ;)
[01:05] <Seveas> ryan_ishere, please watch your language in here
[01:05] <ryan_ishere> sorry
[01:05] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, why would you downgrade?
[01:05] <Seveas> we try to keep this channel somewhat family friendly
[01:05] <LordMelkor> ryan_ishere i recommend you use VLC from the VideoLan nightlies page
[01:05] <LordMelkor> mplayer is really unstable
[01:05] <ryan_ishere> im just in a bad mood and this isnt helping
[01:05] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: I need to for a plugin.
[01:05] <ryan_ishere> vlc?
[01:05] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: I need to get it to broadcast to a shout-cast server.
[01:05] <LordMelkor> a different media player
[01:05] <ryan_ishere> is it in the repos?
[01:06] <Toadstool> hi
[01:06] <HymnToLife> yes but the repos version lacks MKV support
[01:06] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, bah. there must be something better
[01:06] <LordMelkor> yes but the version available from the nightlies page is better
[01:06] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: Googline again.
[01:06] <Toadstool> ryan_ishere: yeah vlc is in universe but breezy version sucks
[01:06] <ryan_ishere> nightlies.com?
[01:06] <LordMelkor> no
[01:06] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, whatever. anyway, check out www.xmms.org tarballs of old releases
[01:06] <LordMelkor> ryan_ishere: google serach vlc nightlies
[01:06] <Genfoo> then compile it yourself, I doubt that ubuntu folks would keep ancient releases
[01:06] <nalioth>  !vlc
[01:06] <ubotu> vlc is probably a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:07] <ryan_ishere> oh ok ill be back in a sec im gonna try that
[01:07] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:07] <HymnToLife> we should add the nightlies version to ubotu
[01:07] <LordMelkor> ubotu the repos version sucks
[01:07] <ubotu> LordMelkor: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:07] <NsOmNiAc> <3 VLC
[01:07] <lafferpt> does anyone has qmail installed?
[01:07] <lafferpt> err, 'have'
[01:07] <ryan_ishere> which one do i want
[01:08] <Toadstool> ryan_ishere: currently, i'm using debian sid vlc and it's far better than breezy one
[01:08] <LordMelkor> i tried compiling vlc but for some reason even though i had libmatroska i couldnt get matroska support to work from my compiled version
[01:08] <HymnToLife> weird
[01:08] <LordMelkor> i got the nightlies version but now i cant watch w,v9 :(
[01:08] <HymnToLife> I compiled it and it worked fine
[01:08] <LordMelkor> wmv9*
[01:08] <ryan_ishere> says debian sid i386
[01:08] <HymnToLife> did you follow the forum's thread about it ?
[01:08] <LordMelkor> ya
[01:08] <LordMelkor> didnt work tho
[01:08] <ryan_ishere> or experimental i386
[01:08] <Makura> Why is it that Totem plays AVI but I don't get any sound?
[01:09] <LordMelkor> i read the forums HOWTO and the wiki HOWTO
[01:09] <LordMelkor> neither worked
[01:09] <HymnToLife> funny, I did it, works like a charm
[01:09] <LordMelkor> im prly missing some other dependancy
[01:09] <ryan_ishere> but the breezy version sucks?
[01:09] <LordMelkor> ryan get the breezy nightly
[01:09] <HymnToLife> thats what build-dep is for :)
[01:09] <LordMelkor> oh.
[01:09] <LordMelkor> good point
[01:09] <ryan_ishere> ok
[01:09] <LordMelkor> does build dep work with vlc tho?
[01:10] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:10] <nalioth> LordMelkor: it does.
[01:10] <Tweed> HymnToLife I think that network admin is the right command but neither of your suggestions appear to do anything
[01:10] <dan_> umm
[01:10] <dan_> hmm
[01:10] <LordMelkor> nice then i can add the wmv9 module too
[01:10] <LordMelkor> W00T
[01:10] <rob_> !ati
[01:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:10] <dollar> How can I view th efiles in my hda1 when im not as root? when im logged in as a normal user ?
[01:10] <lcore> Where does gnome terminal keep info about created profiles?
[01:10] <dan_> does anyone know how to install firefox 1.5?
[01:10] <HymnToLife> Tweed> the correct command is definitely network-admin (I assume you're running Gnome)
[01:10] <dan_> I don't wanna run inferior firefox anymore
[01:10] <HymnToLife> !ff1.5
[01:10] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:11] <dan_> thank you
[01:11] <LordMelkor> ugh i hate firfox 1.5
[01:11] <Nameeater> dollar: what type of format is it in?
[01:11] <Tweed> HymnToLife yes right out of the box..
[01:11] <dollar> Nameeater, NTFS
[01:11] <LordMelkor> it doesnt have the fat clearall button in the privacy section
[01:11] <jonkan> some swe that could help me?
[01:11] <lcore> dan_:  I've uses klik
[01:11] <LordMelkor> jonkan not if you dont describe your problem
[01:11] <lcore> dan_:  ^used
[01:12] <IdleOne> !se
[01:12] <ubotu> somebody said se was Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[01:12] <uber_spaced> anybody have any suggestions on how to spend ~$350 on a motherboard and processor?
[01:12] <jonkan> i have som problems whit mounting my ntfs windows disk
[01:12] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: Poked around Synaptic, I think I found something.
[01:12] <Genfoo> ;-)
[01:12] <ryan_ishere> ok now i have vlc
[01:12] <IdleOne> !tell jonkan  about ntfs
[01:12] <dan_> umm, why would you hate firefox 1.5?
[01:13] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: what guide did u use to compile vlc
[01:13] <polpak> dollar, yes that looks right
[01:13] <HymnToLife> !no se is <reply>  Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[01:13] <ubotu> HymnToLife: okay
[01:13] <dan_> also, has anyone here had any experience with installing XGL on ubuntu?
[01:13] <dollar> polpak, it didn't work :/
[01:13] <polpak> except you shouldn't have the $ on the end of the line, it should be two 0's
[01:13] <dan_> the live CD worked, so it should work for me
[01:13] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> hold on a sec
[01:13] <dan_> but we shall see
[01:13] <uber_spaced> like whether or not I should go for a low end opteron or a high end athalon?
[01:13] <Amaranth> dan_: it's in dapper
[01:13] <dollar> still can view the drives when im logged in as dollar.
[01:13] <Tweed> HymnToLIfe: got it.. had to su and it worked ... hmmmm :-/
[01:13] <basbryan> dan_: it works nicely for me
[01:13] <Amaranth> LordMelkor: why would you compile vlc? it's in the repos
[01:13] <dan_> Amaranth: yes, but I want it now =P
[01:13] <ryan_ishere> how do i use it
[01:14] <dan_> I'm not waiting till april, and I'm a knucklehead who refuses to run pre-release
[01:14] <polpak> dollar, did you change the lines to have 0 on the end?
[01:14] <LordMelkor> Amarnath: that version sucks barely plays anything
[01:14] <lcore> dan_: You can use klik.atekon.de to install ff1.5 on breezy.
[01:14] <ompaul> dan_, may I sak why do you need it now?
[01:14] <Amaranth> dan_: so compile Xorg 7.0, xgl, and compiz from source or use dapper
[01:14] <dollar> polpak, the lines are the same as I pasted
[01:14] <dan_> don't need it now
[01:14] <dan_> want it now
[01:14] <polpak> dollar, they should look like
[01:14] <LordMelkor> Amarnath: im using the nightlies version now but i wanna compile it with wmv9 support
[01:14] <dan_> tried out the live CD, and I really like it
[01:14] <dan_> haha
[01:14] <polpak> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0         0
[01:14] <Nameeater> dollar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:14] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[01:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:14] <Amaranth> compiling xorg 7 will make you cry
[01:14] <Seveas> Amaranth, understatement 
[01:14] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127563&highlight=VLC+MKV
[01:15] <dan_> Amaranth: what's dapper?
[01:15] <dollar> polpak,  they do :s
[01:15] <Genfoo> !dapper
[01:15] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[01:15] <Amaranth> dan_: code name for the next release of ubuntu
[01:15] <polpak> Amaranth, much wailing and gnashing of teeth
[01:15] <polpak> dollar, ok
[01:15] <dan_> oh
[01:15] <polpak> dollar, you saved the file?
[01:15] <dan_> yeah, I'm gonna have to compile
[01:15] <ryan_ishere> i still got no sound man?
[01:15] <Amaranth> dan_: You're going to break your system.
[01:16] <LordMelkor> is it possible to modify the default xv output settings
[01:16] <Amaranth> dan_: I've been doing this stuff for years and I wouldn't trust myself to compile xorg
[01:16] <Seveas> Amaranth, wuss ;)
[01:16] <ryan_ishere> it says its playing but i got no sound comming out?
[01:16] <ompaul> Seveas, Seveas
[01:16] <Amaranth> !lart Seveas
[01:16] <ompaul> Seveas, can't call you a wuss
[01:16] <polpak> ryan_ishere, try changing the sink it's using in your preferences?
[01:16] <stephans> have you seen the cool novell desktop gui effects and menu?
[01:16] <stephans> will they be in dapper too?
[01:17] <polpak> stephans, yep
[01:17] <Amaranth> stephans: the eyecandy will, the menu won't
[01:17] <Seveas> stephans, yes, but not enabled by default because it's awfully unstable
[01:17] <stephans> IC
[01:17] <ryan_ishere> polpak: what do you mean?
[01:17] <dan_> hmm
[01:17] <polpak> ryan_ishere, I believe in the preferences you can specify what sound system it sinks the sound to
[01:17] <tristanmike> Amaranth, what you do mean "the menu", what's that?
[01:17] <dan_> Amaranth, that sucks, why is it so hard?
[01:18] <ryan_ishere> im in preferences
[01:18] <Amaranth> tristanmike: Novell's beagle powered applications menu
[01:18] <ryan_ishere> but i got nothing
[01:18] <LordMelkor> yo. someone said that it was possible to do "build-dep" for vlc.
[01:18] <LordMelkor> but
[01:18] <LordMelkor> i got this message
[01:18] <LordMelkor> E: Build-dependencies for vlc could not be satisfied.
[01:18] <Engla> stephans: it definitely won't be installed by default, though
[01:18] <dan_> anyways
[01:18] <HymnToLife> someone is me
[01:18] <Amaranth> dan_: because xorg is a bunch of pieces of code that work together in weird ways, but only if you sacrifice your first-born first
[01:18] <tristanmike> Amaranth, ok, I haven't seen that, so I have no idea what you're talking about :P
[01:18] <dan_> this click does not work for me at all
[01:18] <dan_> haha
[01:18] <HymnToLife> and it definitely worked for me
[01:18] <dan_> klik even
[01:18] <Genfoo> ugh! when is there going to be a 64-bit version of flash player >:|
[01:18] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:18] <Seveas> dan_, klik is a Bad Thing
[01:18] <dan_> Amaranth, haha
[01:18] <Seveas> Genfoo, around the 12th of never
[01:19] <Amaranth> Genfoo: probably never
[01:19] <ryan_ishere> any other ideas?
[01:19] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: you didnt get that message when you typed apt-get build-dep vlc?
[01:19] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> need to add an extra repo
[01:19] <Genfoo> never is a very strong word
[01:19] <LordMelkor> which
[01:19] <Amaranth> Genfoo: Windows XP 64-bit doesn't have flash either
[01:19] <apokryphos> klik is a good thing
[01:19] <Genfoo> Amaranth, that's business suicide
[01:19] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: whichone
[01:19] <dan_> you know what's great tho
[01:19] <ompaul> Genfoo, never be broke
[01:19] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> see the 'Matroska packages' here http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list
[01:19] <dan_> I don't really care if I break this system, this is just my linux system
[01:19] <dan_> I have nothing on it even
[01:19] <dan_> hahaha
[01:19] <polpak> ryan_ishere, one sec
[01:19] <dan_> this is my screwaround box
[01:19] <vejan> evening all
[01:20] <dan_> worst that happens is I have to format and reinstall ubuntu
[01:20] <LordMelkor> why are they commented out
[01:20] <Seveas> dan_, and that is currently a 10-minute job
[01:20] <Amaranth> Hopefully dapper+1 will have aiglx on by default
[01:20] <LordMelkor> its like i shouldnt be using them -_-
[01:20] <vejan> how can I close open ports?
[01:20] <Amaranth> but i think that would depend on ati getting drivers out
[01:20] <Genfoo> can I embed 32-bit flash player somehow in my 64 bit system?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> because not anyone is building VLC
[01:21] <Amaranth> Seveas: the flight 4 ppc install took about 40 minutes :P
[01:21] <Seveas> Amaranth, try espresso
[01:21] <kditty> any ideas on why the live cd of ubuntu would give me wireless access, as well as detect my network, while breezy fullinstall wouldnt do the same?
[01:21] <kditty> and i had to set up
[01:21] <polpak> ryan_ishere, so what driver is selected under the settings?
[01:21] <makomk> \whois ubugtu
[01:21] <Amaranth> Seveas: I like my partitions to be not wiped out. :P
[01:21] <kditty> nothing in the live cd
[01:21] <Seveas> Amaranth, hehe ;)
[01:21] <Seveas> makomk, ubugtu is a bot
[01:21] <ryan_ishere> you mean where it says default?
[01:22] <Amaranth> Seveas: did you ever fix it?
[01:22] <Amaranth> testing: "DCC SEND
[01:22] <Seveas> fix what?
[01:22] <Amaranth> that
[01:22] <IdleOne> lol
[01:22] <Seveas> that's good
[01:22] <dan_> umm
[01:23] <dan_> okay, if I run the pre-release version of ubuntu
[01:23] <Seveas> rather a few false positives than false negatives
[01:23] <dan_> will I get XGL and the new firefox installed for me?
[01:23] <dan_> hahaha
[01:23] <Amaranth> Seveas: the exploit only works if it's the start of the message
[01:23] <vejan> what can't I get to google.com from firefox
[01:23] <Amaranth> dan_: firefox, yes
[01:23] <Seveas> Amaranth, unfortunately not
[01:23] <Amaranth> dan_: xgl, no
[01:23] <polpak> dan_, new firefox yes, new xgl no. but there's a nice howto
[01:23] <dan_> hmm
[01:23] <dan_> I want this XGL
[01:23] <dan_> you guys tried it yet?
[01:23] <michal`> hello happy guys !
[01:23] <polpak> dan_, yeah
[01:23] <dan_> it's sweet as all hell
[01:23] <michal`> tell me
[01:23] <Seveas> dan_, it's unstable as hell too
[01:24] <HymnToLife> Seveas> why is that banned (the dcc thing)
[01:24] <ryan_ishere> i still got no sound
[01:24] <Xoritor> lol
[01:24] <HymnToLife> ?
[01:24] <michal`> do you know about some packages with nxmachine server for ubuntu ?
[01:24] <Seveas> and compiz is bad
[01:24] <dan_> hmm
[01:24] <Seveas> !tell HymnToLife about exploit
[01:24] <polpak> ryan_ishere, what driver is selected in your settings for mplayer?
[01:24] <dan_> I do think 3d filesystems are the way to go tho, honestly
[01:24] <dan_> when you see that
[01:24] <dan_> totally rules
[01:24] <dan_> and I'm runnin a ti4200 on this system
[01:24] <dan_> not even anything really that great
[01:24] <HymnToLife> hmm got it
[01:24] <ryan_ishere> where does it say driver im in the settings i dont see it?
[01:24] <dan_> and it worked really nicely
[01:25] <Seveas> dan_, please take off-topic discussions to the -offtopic channel
[01:25] <romulo> hi, im having a problem with the keyboard of my notebook, if i press ctrl+alt+f1 it doenst exit X and go to virtual terminals..infact nothing happens, if i press the combination on gnome-terminal it outputs  "S" , can aynoen help me?
[01:25] <IdleOne> !tell dan_  about enter
[01:25] <Seveas> we like to keep this one support-only
[01:25] <rikai> dan_, so get it fired up and running. ;) #xgl-ubuntu if you need hel. :D
[01:25] <rikai> *help
[01:25] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: i added the bunkus repo but build dep still doesnt work
[01:25] <polpak> ryan_ishere, click the wrench looking button
[01:25] <allisfree> is the network card MAC address saved on disk, or detected every booting?
[01:25] <ryan_ishere> there isnt one on VLC
[01:25] <ryan_ishere> wait sorry
[01:25] <ryan_ishere> i found it
[01:25] <HymnToLife> still the same output ?
[01:25] <nalioth> LordMelkor: join us in #kubuntu-offtopic for help compiling vlc
[01:26] <LordMelkor> HymnToLife: although apt didnt find the key but i doubt that had anything to do with it
[01:26] <phill> I have a FAT32 partition on my hard drive, and I can mount it using "mount -w /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2", but how can I mount it so that it is writable by all users?
[01:26] <ufo> allisfree, its hardcoded to chip
[01:26] <ryan_ishere> ok now what?
[01:26] <HymnToLife> did you apt-get update ?
[01:26] <LordMelkor> ya
[01:26] <LordMelkor> duh -_-
[01:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phill about mountwindows
[01:26] <polpak> !tell phill about ntfs
[01:27] <LordMelkor> nalioth: i dont have kubuntu tho
[01:27] <polpak> phill, the howto applies to fat32 as well as ntfs
[01:27] <allisfree> ufo, i know, so ubuntu detected it every time?
[01:27] <Makura> How do I extract stuff if I don't have the rights?
[01:27] <sweetd4> hey
[01:27] <sweetd4> hows it goin??
[01:27] <polpak> ryan_ishere, on the audio tab what driver is it using?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor> how could you update if you don't have the key ?
[01:27] <ufo> allisfree, yes, have you heard mac spoofing :)
[01:28] <ryan_ishere> im not using Mplayer
[01:28] <Genfoo> Seveas, by the way, do you use xchat?
[01:28] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: I found what I was looking for. It was on the ShoutCast website.
[01:28] <ryan_ishere> im using VLC
[01:28] <Genfoo> ok Kr4t05
[01:28] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: thanks for the help, anyway.
[01:28] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, shoutcast and linux can be really messy
[01:28] <Seveas> Genfoo, yes
[01:28] <polpak> ryan_ishere, oh. Coulda swore you said mplayer
[01:28] <Genfoo> Seveas, ok :-)
[01:28] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: sc_trans_linux should work.
[01:29] <ryan_ishere> i did awhile back then i changed it ill try mplayer again
[01:29] <Genfoo> Seveas, can you make xchat save the windows and rooms that you opened already so you can restart the program ?
[01:29] <polpak> ryan_ishere, doesn't totem work?
[01:29] <ryan_ishere> totem?
[01:29] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, except it doesn't -_-
[01:29] <Seveas> Genfoo, xchat  server list, edit your server, add the auto-join channels
[01:29] <polpak> totem is the default media player in ubuntu
[01:29] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: ?!
[01:29] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: I'll take a shot at it.
[01:30] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: I have a shell account on a webserver, so, no big.
[01:30] <Ven] n^> anyone got Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG ?
[01:30] <cj> Ven] n^: 2200 here
[01:30] <Genfoo> Kr4t05, your own server? just wondering :P
[01:30] <Ven] n^> im gonna install it to fedora..
[01:30] <cj> it's only BG.  but I might be able to help, I guess
[01:30] <Ven] n^> cj, http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2098&hl=milligan
[01:31] <Ven] n^> this the way?
[01:31] <cj> Ven] n^: sorry, don't have time to read that right now
[01:31] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: No, friend of mine, sells dedi's and shells.
[01:31] <cj> Ven] n^: give me a quick recap
[01:31] <ryan_ishere> ok with the rythmbox
[01:31] <Falstius> does dapper have mysql5?
[01:31] <Ven] n^> cj, i need to find what driver windows use and etc
[01:31] <cj> Falstius: we're working on it :)
[01:31] <ryan_ishere> how do i set my firefox shared folder as my library?
[01:31] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: Only $7AUD
[01:31] <Ven] n^> and what chipset it is
[01:31] <Kr4t05> Genfoo: /mo
[01:31] <cj> Ven] n^: sorry, no windows here...
[01:31] <polpak> Falstius, postgreSQL > mysql anyway
[01:31] <Ven] n^> and ndiswrapper etc
[01:31] <ryan_ishere> not firefox
[01:31] <cj> Falstius: don't listen to polpak
[01:31] <Ven] n^> cj, how did u install urs?
[01:32] <ryan_ishere> frostwire
[01:32] <cj> Ven] n^: it came in my laptop :)  do you mean the drivers?
[01:32] <Ven] n^> yes :p
[01:32] <cj> Falstius: can I help you with mysql?
[01:32] <Falstius> cj, my wife wants mysql5 I get her mysql5
[01:32] <cj> Falstius: we're taking input on the dapper package
[01:32] <Ven] n^> im still on ubuntu, heh.. i use fedora as i didnt get ubuntu to work
[01:32] <Ven] n^> if that matters
[01:32] <ryan_ishere> man ubuntu is too much work
[01:32] <polpak> ryan_ishere, uh...
[01:32] <brenner> Makura: where/what is the file?
[01:32] <cj> Ven] n^: do you have the most recent firmware?
[01:33] <ryan_ishere> windows it far more user friendly and it doesnt frickin go unstable all the time on you
[01:33] <ryan_ishere> just from time to time
[01:33] <kditty> is it safe to asume that if the drivers for my wireless card are on the livecd of ubuntu, that they are also in the full install?
[01:33] <Nikopol> kditty: yeah probably
[01:33] <cj> Falstius: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[01:33] <polpak> ryan_ishere, no, you just spent the last hour or so debugging non supported apps rather than using the default
[01:33] <basbryan> ryan_ishere:and microsoft says all their users are too dumb to know they can't the same thing for free....
[01:33] <kditty> because i can access internet sharing fine from live cd, im doing it now
[01:33] <cj> Falstius: yes, there's a package.  We're cleaning it up for the dapper release
[01:33] <ryan_ishere> great but
[01:34] <Falstius> cj, I'm still running breezy.  I was thinking about upgrading to get it.
[01:34] <kditty> but when i boot to the install shell, my wireless will not connect
[01:34] <ryan_ishere> if too dumb means you have to fix something every ten mins im thinking its worth it since you can bootleg windows anyway
[01:34] <cj> Falstius: I'm pretty sure you can get 5 with breezy... try that command
[01:34] <cj> Falstius: apt-cache search mysql-server-5.0
[01:34] <kditty> so im guessing that the problem is somplace in my settings, but i checked my settings from the livecd and changed the breezy installl to match them
[01:34] <cj> Falstius: join me on #mysql
[01:34] <polpak> ryan_ishere, say that a little louder.. I don't think the FBI quite heard you
[01:34] <kditty> and still cant get online without live cd
[01:35] <rob_> !m4p
[01:35] <ubotu> rob_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:35] <ryan_ishere> i dont have a bootleg version im on my moms comp its a dell but still
[01:35] <IdleOne> ryan_ishere>  if you install apps that arent supported yeah you are gonna spend more time fixing them using
[01:35] <polpak> ryan_ishere, in anycase. Your whole problem was mostly caused by your not using the default player
[01:35] <ryan_ishere> ok but yet again
[01:35] <IdleOne> s/them/than
[01:35] <ryan_ishere> im trying to use the default one
[01:35] <DoTheRodeo_> Xorg acts dumb after 2 days of uptime
[01:35] <ryan_ishere> and its simply not outputting any sound
[01:35] <DoTheRodeo_> i thought only windows that does that
[01:36] <ryan_ishere> the rythmbox is the default player on mine
[01:36] <polpak> ryan_ishere is your sound even working?
[01:36] <ryan_ishere> only on startup
[01:36] <polpak> ryan_ishere, no sense debugging the app if it's the system driver itself
[01:36] <ryan_ishere> the little drumbeat and hello im your computer welcome to hell sounds
[01:36] <IdleOne> ryan_ishere>  so the problem is sound ( hardware / drivers ) and not the software
[01:36] <kditty> is there a way to export my live cd network config to my hd install of unbuntu
[01:36] <polpak> ryan_ishere, have you tried a different multimedia system?
[01:37] <rene> hi
[01:37] <rene> hola
[01:37] <polpak> System->Preferences->Multimedia selector
[01:37] <Genfoo> :P
[01:37] <qferret> ryan_ishere, switch from ALSO to OSS or vice versa
[01:37] <ryan_ishere> i would doubt hardware being the problem since i have windows on a seperate partition and everything works fine on it
[01:37] <qferret> *ALSA
[01:37] <ozrg> ubuntu distributor of the year
[01:37] <mrec> hmm what entries do I need in my sources.list file to upgrade my debian to dapperdrake?
[01:37] <polpak> ryan_ishere, it's also incredibly difficult to talk to you in IRC since you don't bother to address your statements
[01:38] <polpak> ryan_ishere, we didnt' say it was the hardware, we said it was the drivers
[01:38] <Trinitrogen> !rescue
[01:38] <ubotu> I heard rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[01:38] <kditty> the live cd already has my network on the list in the activate connection option, on the live cd. but the hd install doesnt have that option. im affraid i messed up a setting, because the full install didnt configure my network properly
[01:38] <Genfoo> mrec, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9937
[01:38] <rene> hi
[01:38] <ryan_ishere> no someone asked i dont know how to address my statements?
[01:38] <Genfoo> HI
[01:38] <rene> i eat fish
[01:38] <rene> :S
[01:38] <Genfoo> jesus stop saying hi you troll -_-
[01:38] <polpak> ryan_ishere, type the person's name to whom you are speaking
[01:38] <ryan_ishere> polpak, like that?
[01:38] <polpak> yes
[01:39] <mrec> Genfoo: nice thanks!
[01:39] <ryan_ishere> ok
[01:39] <polpak> ryan_ishere, that is very much better
[01:39] <rene> ok
[01:39] <Genfoo> mrec, that's mine ;-)
[01:39] <ryan_ishere> polpak, this is my problem
[01:39] <polpak> ryan_ishere, because it highlights it in red on my screen
[01:39] <IdleOne> ryan_ishere>  when you put the persons name it highlights it in red so they can see it better
[01:39] <polpak> ryan_ishere, otherwise it's very difficult to see when you say things
[01:39] <Trinitrogen> Can somebody share the link for reinstalling GRUB with the LiveCd?
[01:39] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i installed a new video card and everything went to crap
[01:39] <polpak> ryan_ishere, you can also tab complete the persons name in xchat
[01:39] <mrec> Genfoo: now it's mine too :)
[01:39] <Genfoo> :-)
[01:39] <rene> i paly gameboy advance
[01:39] <bimberi> !recover
[01:39] <ubotu> somebody said recover was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:40] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: ^^^
[01:40] <qferret> just don't be a tab tramp LOL
[01:40] <Trinitrogen> Thanks :)
[01:40] <rene> play gameboy sorry
[01:40] <polpak> ryan_ishere, what video card?
[01:40] <IdleOne> rene>  thats great ! do you need any help with ubuntu?
[01:40] <ryan_ishere> polpak, so i installed the new drivers and since then no sound from the media players and i cant seem to figure out why.
[01:40] <brenner> qferret: tab tramp?
[01:40] <rene> yes
[01:40] <Genfoo> rene, then ask
[01:40] <ryan_ishere> polpak, Radeon 9600 se
[01:40] <kditty> would it be possible for me to load the breezy OS, and then put the live cd in cdrom and run the config util for the network config to change config on my install?
[01:40] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: np :)
[01:40] <Genfoo> and stay on topic
[01:40] <rene> can you play fotball
[01:40] <rene> ??
[01:40] <Trinitrogen> bimberi: I just hope the live cd helps me more than the install does
[01:40] <polpak> ryan_ishere, k, one sec
[01:41] <Trinitrogen> if not Im gonna kill myself
[01:41] <Jalal> shouldn't ubuntu auto detect a network between two computers hooked up through an ethernet wire?
[01:41] <qferret> brenner,  if there was a brencer or whatever in here bren<tab> would adress the wrong person
[01:41] <allisfree> lspci showsth, but no /proc/pci found. so there is no pci network card found. dmesg show my networkcard has been recognize and the kernel module has been installed. what's wrong would be?
[01:41] <IdleOne> kditty>  probably but I wouldnt know how
[01:41] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i also have frostwire and it would appear as though it wont work anymore either
[01:41] <kditty> trinitrogan, the live cd actually works better for me than the live install
[01:41] <rene> GENFOO can you play fotball
[01:41] <brenner> qferret: ah. :)
[01:41] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:41] <ozrg> is it possible to install ubuntu without a cd?
[01:41] <ryan_ishere> polpak, it downloads but wont play anything
[01:41] <Amaranth> IdleOne: ?
[01:41] <pedro> Anybody knows how to reinstall Firefox 1.5.0.1 in Ubuntu?
[01:41] <IdleOne> rene>
[01:41] <rob_> is there a posible way to play itunes downloaded m4ps??
[01:41] <Seveas> IdleOne, ?
[01:41] <polpak> ryan_ishere, most likely for the same reason all your other players aren't working
[01:41] <hackeron> hey, I currently have 4 desktops in the desktop switcher, how do I add more?
[01:41] <IdleOne> Seveas>  rene
[01:41] <Genfoo> rene I can row too :-)
[01:42] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i would assume so
[01:42] <polpak> ryan_ishere, how did you install the driver for your ATI card?
[01:42] <crimsun> rob_: have you processed them with jHymn?
[01:42] <ryan_ishere> polpak, went to the wiki and followed the instructions
[01:42] <rob_> no, i dont know what that is
[01:42] <IdleOne> Seveas>  Amaranth  rene is a troll asking if we can play football
[01:42] <rob_> !jHymn
[01:42] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob_
[01:42] <nalioth> rene: this is a help and support channel, for general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <qferret> ryan_ishere, switch from ALSA to OSS or vice versa....Open volume control, fo to File -> change device and choose the other.... works for me every time
[01:42] <crimsun> rob_: search via Google, then process them via jHymn
[01:43] <rob_> okay
[01:43] <rob_> thank you
[01:43] <Ven] n^> r usbkeys plug and play with linux?
[01:43] <Seveas> Ven] n^, yes
[01:43] <polpak> ryan_ishere, the wiki provides 2 methods to install the driver
[01:43] <polpak> ryan_ishere, which did you use
[01:43] <Jalal> shouldn't ubuntu auto detect a network between two computers hooked up through an ethernet wire?
[01:43] <Genfoo> wow there are quite a bit of bans here
[01:43] <Ven] n^> Seveas, do i need to format it?
[01:43] <polpak> ryan_ishere, and to make sure we're looking at the same thing, which wiki page was it?
[01:43] <ozrg> is it possible to install ubuntu without a cd?
[01:43] <rene> Genfoo you like eat fish???
[01:43] <Seveas> Jalal, depends on what you mean with auto detect
[01:43] <Seveas> Ven] n^, only if it's not yet formatted
[01:43] <Sir_quicken> Hey I gotta set up evolution with ssl on 950 & cannot set it, what other e-mail clients are there?
[01:43] <Genfoo> /kick rene
[01:43] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: ah, kk, a way to restore grub with the install cd is documented somewhere (ubuntuforums iirc) but you've probably been trying that
[01:44] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im not entirely sure it was given to me by someone on here it was the ati page
[01:44] <Jalal> Seveas, give me access to the shared folders on my windows machine
[01:44] <Seveas> Genfoo, don't do that - we know how to run a channel
[01:44] <rob_> crimsun, on jhymn's website, there are only windows and mac downloads... will the windows one work since it is java?
[01:44] <Ven] n^> there r some windows apps on it that was already there.. cruzersync, cruzerlock2 etc
[01:44] <mikebot>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[01:44] <Genfoo> Seveas, ok  :-X :-D
[01:44] <polpak> ryan_ishere,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ??
[01:44] <crimsun> rob_: you'd have to run jHymn inside wine or Windows directly
[01:44] <brenner> ozrg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:44] <Genfoo> mikeazorin, you can also use two "//" try it
[01:44] <brenner> ozrg: it's best to use the install CD imho
[01:44] <Genfoo> /me
[01:44] <Genfoo> er
[01:44] <rob_> oh.
[01:44] <Genfoo> mikebot,
[01:45] <mikebot> Genfoo, yes
[01:45] <Genfoo> mikebot, , you can also use two "//" try it
[01:45] <crimsun> rob_: you might want to look at SharpMusique or whatnot
[01:45] <mikebot> /
[01:45] <Genfoo> :)
[01:45] <mikebot> /msg nickserv blah
[01:45] <Genfoo> :P
[01:45] <Seveas> Genfoo, please keep the off-topicness out
[01:45] <mikebot> oh no, i meant to send that to nickserv, there was just an accidental space
[01:45] <Seveas> mikebot, same for you
[01:45] <mikebot> heh
[01:45] <Genfoo> Seveas, sorry. are you an ubuntu developer?
[01:45] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im checking it right now
[01:45] <qferret> I have a password issue...I backed up my Ubuntu instal with backuppc, and used the tarball to overwrite files on an ubuntu VM downloaded from VMware's site....the only account I can use to log on is backuppc
[01:45] <mikebot> hey, is wikipedia not responding correctly for anyone else?
[01:46] <Seveas> Genfoo, partially
[01:46] <qferret> that account doesn't have root priv's
[01:46] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i used the ones provided by ubuntu
[01:46] <qferret> what files didn't copy overcorrectly?
[01:46] <rob_> i have sharpmusique, but it cant play the songs, i have a lot of itunes downloads that i am bringing over from windows
[01:46] <ryan_ishere> polpak, the ones first on the list
 could you please tell me how to install ubuntu without the cd
[01:47] <crimsun> rob_: if you still have Windows installed, I highly recommend you use jHymn from within Windows
[01:47] <sweetd4> hi
[01:47] <Sir_quicken> Can sum1 help me?? I need 2 know if there is a linux version of entourage Eudora mozilla or thunderbird E-mail client, ("like outlook")
[01:47] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ok
[01:47] <brenner> ozrg: see the advanced installs at the bottom of the page
[01:47] <rob_> i would, but I have replaced it with ubuntu
[01:47] <sweetd4> hi
[01:47] <brenner> ozrg: fyi, i've never done it.  i just know that link
[01:47] <polpak> ryan_ishere, can you pastebin the output of lspci and lsmod ?
[01:48] <crimsun> rob_: ah, then you'll have to try it within wine, or unlock them using another Windows machine
[01:48] <Makura> How do you extract tar.gz files?  It says I don't have the privileges..
[01:48] <ozrg> brenner: cnt see no link :S
[01:48] <ryan_ishere> polpak, assume that i am mentally retarded when it came to computers cause it wouldnt be far from the truth so speak in clear common english is you wouldnt mind
[01:48] <qferret> Makura, use sudo tar....
[01:48] <polpak> Makura, that probably means that you don't have write priveleges to the place your trying to extract to
[01:49] <Earlb> hello... can anyone help me get World of Warcraft running under wine?
[01:49] <polpak> Makura, you only need read privileges to extract
[01:49] <qferret> or the tarball itself...
[01:49] <Makura> polpak: I'm trying to extract this firefox 1.5.tar.gz to Opt so I can install it
[01:49] <polpak> Earlb, did you read the howto?
[01:49] <Sir_quicken> HELLO!! E-mail client question, I cant recive e-mail only send using a E-mail client ("like outlook")
[01:49] <Makura> qferret: */opt
[01:49] <Earlb> yes, i did.
[01:49] <brenner> ozrg: it helps if you read posts addressed to you.  here it is again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:49] <qferret> gracias Makura ;-)
[01:49] <polpak> ubotu tell ryan_ishere about pastebin
[01:49] <Sir_quicken> can anyone suggest another I gave a list 2 that support setting ssl ports & such
[01:50] <Makura> qferret: For what? =p
[01:50] <mikebot> hey, is wikipedia not responding correctly for anyone else?
[01:50] <ozrg> brenner: thanks.
[01:50] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, evolution works fine
[01:50] <Sir_quicken> Not for gmail
[01:50] <ryan_ishere> polpak, so what does that mean?
[01:50] <polpak> ryan_ishere, the website ubotu told you about will allow you to paste text and then you can tell me the url
[01:50] <brenner> anyone have any recommendations for a gmail notifier?
[01:50] <Sir_quicken> I send not recive
[01:50] <polpak> ryan_ishere, then I can see the text
[01:50] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, works good for me
[01:50] <qferret> oops...thought u were answering a q I asked earlier
[01:50] <qferret> :)
[01:50] <Seveas> did you enable pop3 in the gmail web settings?
[01:50] <polpak> ryan_ishere, so if you go to a terminal you can copy the output from the commands lspci  and lsmod and paste that output into the pastebin url
[01:50] <Seveas> and did you double-check the account settings?
[01:51] <Sir_quicken> I have 3 messages on my gmail its not picking it up.. HOW do I set the pop ssl port then
[01:51] <polpak> ryan_ishere, or rather paste it into the pastebin form, and give me the url
[01:51] <Kanalal> hi, can someone tell me (point me to a post wiki) how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules?
[01:51] <Earlb> polpak: i did read the howto... when i run the game i get an error regarding opengl32.dll. I've set up my ATI card's drivers, so i know that isn't it.
[01:51] <Sir_quicken> yes there is nothing asking for ssl
[01:51] <mikebot> what's the offtoipic channel?
[01:51] <polpak> mikebot, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, "Use secure connection"
[01:51] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i wish i knew what you were talking about i think you have overestimated my intelligence
[01:51] <mikebot> polpak, thanks
[01:52] <polpak> !pastebin
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:52] <Sir_quicken> I will look at it again but I am not finindg that Option
[01:52] <polpak> ryan_ishere, so open this webpage in your browser
[01:52] <polpak> ryan_ishere,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:52] <Kanalal> anyone?
[01:52] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i have
[01:52] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ok
[01:52] <polpak> ryan_ishere, in a terminal window
[01:52] <polpak> ryan_ishere, type lspci
[01:53] <ryan_ishere> polpak, whats a terminal window?
[01:53] <Sir_quicken> OK tell me sevas it only allows password as a secure & it doesnt work
[01:53] <polpak> ryan_ishere, applications->accessories->terminal
[01:53] <Sir_quicken> TELL me now wtf I do
[01:53] <polpak> ryan_ishere, how did you install the ati driver w/o using the terminal?
[01:53] <qferret> heh
[01:53] <_M4Ld> how do i get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib.
[01:53] <ryan_ishere> polpak, sorry i just had a brain fart moment there
[01:54] <polpak> ryan_ishere, no worries
[01:54] <ryan_ishere> polpak, ok did it
[01:54] <polpak> ryan_ishere, copy & paste the output from the command into the pastebin form
[01:54] <polpak> ryan_ishere, then send me the url for your submission
[01:55] <Sir_quicken> seveas it gives me error says sorry & closes 2 fast 2 read.. HOW do I set up gmail with evolution??
[01:55] <ryan_ishere> polpak, do i have to click send on this thing anywhere for it to save it or just copy the url
[01:55] <_M4Ld> how do i get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!
[01:55] <Sir_quicken> there is no ssl port setting
[01:55] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, "Use secure connection"  always
[01:55] <ryan_ishere> polpak, or send perhaps
[01:55] <polpak> ryan_ishere, after you copy the output click send
[01:55] <polpak> ryan_ishere, yeah
[01:56] <Sir_quicken> I am, the ports are diffretn
[01:56] <ryan_ishere> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9942
[01:56] <Sir_quicken> normal ssl usee port 443 or somthing like that g-mail uses 950
[01:56] <Sir_quicken> Hiow do  Iset the port? I cant recive e-mail only send
[01:57] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ok, now do the same thing for the command lsmod
[01:57] <Sir_quicken> seveas your no doubt using hotmail not g-mail, g-mail has somthing vcalled security.
[01:57] <_M4Ld> hi there, does anybody have an idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!
[01:57] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, I'm using gmail...
[01:57] <Seveas> and it works like a charm
[01:58] <Seveas> both on breezy and dapper
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9943
[01:58] <Sir_quicken> then why cant I recive e-mails of fthe gmail server
[01:58] <Phoul> i just installed gaimbeta2 and im wondering what i use for the "command" section for sound
[01:58] <Sir_quicken> everything is set correctly
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> polpak, sorry i didnt address that
[01:58] <Seveas> Sir_quicken, do you get connection errors?
[01:58] <ryan_ishere> polpak, then all you need is my mothers maiden name and my soc security number right?
[01:58] <Phoul> Err Phoul: use whatever program will play sounds at the command line for you
[01:58] <Seveas> if notL then enable pop access for all mails, not just for new mails
[01:58] <Phoul> What will play sounds at command line
[01:58] <Sir_quicken> I get error on trying 2 recive ppo mail I cant see it closes 2 fast
[01:58] <Kanalal> hi, can someone tell me how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules? or perhaps a way to restore the modules without having to compile them myself?
[01:58] <kingslayer> HAHAHA
[01:58] <kingslayer> LAMER
[01:58] <qferret> ryan_ishere,  CC #'s are good too :P
[01:59] <kditty> i wonder why ubuntu live cd would configure my wireless card fine, and the install process game me an error
[01:59] <polpak> ryan_ishere, lol
[01:59] <ryan_ishere> qferret, just making sure
[01:59] <qferret> heh
[01:59] <Phoul> anyone know
[01:59] <Phoul> ?
[01:59] <polpak> ryan_ishere, it looks like all your drivers are loaded
[01:59] <ryan_ishere> polpak, thats good darn things were a bitch to load up
[01:59] <polpak> ryan_ishere, right click the speaker icon next to your clock
[01:59] <kingslayer> gay
[01:59] <kingslayer> shut up
[01:59] <Phoul> What will play sounds in the command line
[01:59] <Sir_quicken> says exspunging or I dont know wtf it says it goes 2 fast 2 read
[02:00] <Phoul> Im guessing alsa but i dont know how to make it into a useable command
[02:00] <ryan_ishere> polpak, and then?
[02:00] <polpak> ryan_ishere, it's not muted is it? ;p
[02:00] <qferret> ryan_ishere, I'm tellin ya...try switching devices
[02:00] <Sir_quicken> What are other e-mail clients with actual options I can use? for linux??
[02:00] <IdleOne> kditty>  it is possible that some drivers are installed with live cd to give the more users ablitlity to use certain hardware...just need to install the drivers for your wireless
[02:00] <IdleOne> !tell kditty  about wireless
[02:00] <ryan_ishere> polpak, ok im computer retarded but mute is used more then on a comp mi amigo ; }
[02:01] <Phoul> !tell phoul about alsa
[02:01] <polpak> ryan_ishere, just checking =p
[02:01] <satan> sir_quicken: try thunderbird
[02:01] <Phoul> !dmix
[02:01] <ubotu> well, dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:01] <polpak> ryan_ishere, select preferences from that menu
[02:01] <Sir_quicken> I asked anbout that nobody awnsered
[02:01] <Sir_quicken> wher do  Iget it?
[02:01] <Trinitrogen> haha, oh god I wanna kill myself I just spent all day working to get GRUB back into my MBR after installing windows... so I just succeeded...and then I remembered I once again have to reinstall windows :)
[02:01] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im there
[02:01] <satan> sir_quicken: look in Adept, should be there
[02:01] <polpak> what device is selected?
[02:01] <Trinitrogen> goodbye MBR...again
[02:01] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ^^
[02:01] <Sir_quicken> adept I am using gnome interface :P
[02:02] <ryan_ishere> polpak, intel ich5 alsa mixer
[02:02] <_M4Ld> hi there, does anybody have an idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!
[02:02] <IdleOne> Trinitrogen>  good thing is now you know how to do it :)
[02:02] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ok, click close and then right click the speaker again and select open volume control
[02:02] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im ther
[02:02] <satan> sir_quicken: ok try sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[02:02] <cousindaddy> Sir_Quicken, what are you trying to configure?
[02:02] <polpak> all the volumn controls are all the way up?
[02:03] <satan> sir_quicken: in a terminal, of course
[02:03] <ryan_ishere> no
[02:03] <ryan_ishere> polpak
[02:03] <ryan_ishere> polpak, no
[02:03] <ryan_ishere> haha
[02:03] <lafferpt> I have php5 installed, is there any conflict having libapache2-mod-php4 and php4-pear php4-cli... is there any kind of conflict?
[02:03] <qferret> lol
[02:03] <seth4844> Can anyone give me some advice? I have an external usb hard drive - I had the whole thing formatted with fat32 so that I could also use it with windows. I just shrinked it's fat32 partition to add a second ext3 partition so that I could save files that were over the 4GB limit. Now Ubuntu automatically mounts the 2nd (ext3) partition but it doesn't mount the 1st (fat32) partition. I suspect...
[02:03] <seth4844> ...there must be an automount or usbmount config file that would control this. Can anyone set me on the right track?
[02:03] <qferret> "Can you hear me now?"
[02:03] <ryan_ishere> qferret, you are just sittin back and watchign the show LOL
[02:04] <noa1> if someone runs dapper drake here could i have the /etc/apt/sources.list file please ?
[02:04] <ryan_ishere> qferret, let the stupididty flow
[02:04] <polpak> ryan_ishere, so was it just the volume?
[02:04] <ryan_ishere> no
[02:04] <polpak> ryan_ishere, oh, ok
[02:04] <ryan_ishere> polpak, no it still dosent work
[02:04] <bimberi> Sir_quicken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[02:04] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ok, close that then
[02:04] <IdleOne> noa1>  #ubuntu+1
[02:04] <qferret> click on File -> Change device
[02:04] <qferret> go to OSS
[02:04] <qferret> see if it works
[02:04] <ryan_ishere> polpak, way ahead of ya
[02:05] <cousindaddy> I've configed gmail with Evol no prob...
[02:05] <polpak> ryan_ishere, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector
[02:05] <ryan_ishere> polpak, there
[02:06] <polpak> ryan_ishere, I should have asked this before, but.... you are sure the speakers themselves are plugged in correctly and turned on yes?
[02:06] <noa1> thanks IdleOne
[02:06] <qferret> polpak...the ubuntu "drum" sign on sound plays ;-)
[02:06] <polpak> oh right
[02:06] <polpak> forgot
[02:06] <Sir_quicken> that site told me what  ialready got done
[02:06] <ryan_ishere> polpak, well like i said the opening welcome to hell ryan and bongos are working so i assumed so
[02:06] <qferret> heh
[02:06] <Sir_quicken> I already*
[02:07] <polpak> what default sink do you have specified?
[02:07] <polpak> ryan_ishere, ^^
[02:07] <ryan_ishere> polpak, and windows worked fine with it as is as well so
[02:07] <bimberi> Sir_quicken: note that the port goes on the server line - pop.gmail.com:995
[02:07] <LordMelkor> well. i give up.
[02:07] <ryan_ishere> polpak,  esd
[02:08] <LordMelkor> i guess compiling vlc is out of the question
[02:08] <polpak> ryan_ishere, try changing it to alsa
[02:08] <Sir_quicken> Why the hell didnt you f'in say that in the first place... GOD DAMN!
[02:08] <seth4844> Can anybody give me some advice on how to mount a usbdisk with 2 partitios?
[02:08] <Kanalal> hi, can someone tell me how to install the latest Nvidia drivers withought screwing up my madwifi modules? or perhaps a way to restore the modules without having to compile them myself?
[02:08] <ryan_ishere> qferret, i like you man
[02:08] <Sir_quicken> Bah
[02:08] <Sir_quicken> thx
[02:08] <ryan_ishere> polpak, didnt work had some failure message
[02:08] <Makura> qferret: How do I change directories in the terminal? >_>
[02:08] <qferret> lol
[02:08] <qferret> polpak.....it beats silencre
[02:08] <LordMelkor> whats wrong with OSS thats what i use for most stuff
[02:09] <LordMelkor> its widely supported
[02:09] <ryan_ishere> qferret, failed to construct test pipeline for oss sound system
[02:09] <polpak> ryan_ishere, what was the failure?
[02:09] <LordMelkor> better so than alsa atleast
[02:09] <qferret> Makura,  use "cd"
[02:09] <qferret> change directory
[02:09] <jon_> LordMelkor, OSS is older then my dead great grandma ;)
[02:09] <ryan_ishere> polpak, failed to construct test pipeline for alsa
[02:09] <LordMelkor> jon_ so what it works?
[02:09] <qferret> e.g. "cd /mnt/mydrive"
[02:09] <LordMelkor> jon_ so what it works, its not like there is a difference in sound qulality with also
[02:10] <jon_> LordMelkor, For some ;)
[02:10] <ryan_ishere> polpak, i was testing them
[02:10] <LordMelkor> alsa has better sound qual 0.o
[02:10] <ryan_ishere> polpak, no dice
[02:10] <LordMelkor> ??
[02:10] <Makura> qferret: Thanks.  I'm a recent Linux convert.
[02:10] <LordMelkor> i thought it was just an alternative driver
[02:10] <qferret> Makura, no prob
[02:11] <Makura> qferret: How would I get to the desktop? (sorry)
[02:11] <qferret> what does your promt say now?
[02:11] <qferret> makura ^^\
[02:11] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im sorry i suck but still no sound
[02:11] <Falstius> qferret, /media/mydrive ..
[02:11] <polpak> hrm
[02:11] <Makura> qferret: It's where it is when you first open the terminal
[02:11] <rick_> can someone help i have no sound sound blaster16 card
[02:12] <qferret> cd Desktop
[02:12] <eobanb> Makura, i believe you weant cd ~/Desktop
[02:12] <Makura> qferret: logonname@Computername:~$
[02:12] <eobanb> want*
[02:12] <Makura> eobanb: Thanks. =[] 
[02:12] <polpak> ryan_ishere, it really seems like a driver issue
[02:12] <Makura> *=] 
[02:12] <polpak> ryan_ishere, or waid
[02:12] <polpak> ryan_ishere, or wait
[02:12] <qferret> the ~ means you are in your "home" directory
[02:12] <eobanb> yes.
[02:12] <ryan_ishere> polpak, when i try to get mplayer to play it says  could not open audio device no sound
[02:12] <ryan_ishere> polpak, waiting
[02:13] <polpak> ryan_ishere, go to system->administration->users and groups
[02:13] <ryan_ishere> qferret, your mom goes to college
[02:13] <polpak> ryan_ishere, select your user and go to properties
[02:13] <qferret> LOL
[02:13] <polpak> ryan_ishere, then go to the privileges tab
[02:13] <z6bt> whats the syntax to mount an nfs again?
[02:13] <ryan_ishere> polpak, im there
[02:13] <lafferpt> I've installed Shorewall but on /etc/shorewall there isn't an interfaces, hosts, zones, policy and rules files... why is it?
[02:13] <polpak> ryan_ishere, your user has access to the audio devices yes?
[02:13] <Makura> qferret: I tried typing "sudo tar -C /opt firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz" but it tells me that I must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options.  What am I missing?
[02:13] <lafferpt> I'm following a tutorial
[02:13] <z6bt> was it http://host:/path to file?
[02:14] <ryan_ishere> polpak, that he/ i do
[02:14] <qferret> -C?
[02:14] <Kanalal> please people i dont want to reinstall for the 4th time :'(
[02:14] <qferret> try -zxvf
[02:14] <sovin> question: does anyone know a public program to convert text files into pdf files?
[02:15] <Makura> qferret: The guide I was looking at said to use -C...  Lemme try -zxvf.
[02:15] <qferret> z= gzip x=eXtract v= verbose f= somethin or other LOL
[02:15] <ryan_ishere> polpak, ?
[02:15] <JustinLynn> f = to folder
[02:15] <qferret> ty JustinLynn
[02:15] <Engla> no f= file
[02:15] <crimsun> sovin: Ubuntu has a bunch; just search for them. You can even load them into OpenOffice.Org
[02:15] <polpak> ryan_ishere, trying to think what else it could be
[02:15] <qferret> ...or Engla
[02:15] <qferret> LOL
[02:15] <sovin> crimsun: excellent, thanks for the help =)
[02:16] <duelelacabeza> O_o
[02:16] <Makura> Also, why is it that Totem doesn't play the sound of my AVI file?
[02:16] <Engla> normally tar operates on TapeARchives. F tells it to work with files
[02:16] <JustinLynn> Engla> your right. :)
[02:16] <qferret> Linux has no folders hehe
[02:16] <leftist> sure it does
[02:16] <V4Vendetta> yes it does..
[02:16] <leftist> it's symantics
[02:16] <qferret> "directories"
[02:16] <qferret> true
[02:16] <LordMelkor> Makura it may be encoded with something that uses the w32codecs
[02:16] <qferret> but semantics are important
[02:16] <JustinLynn> thats true :P it has directories which are actually files. :) everything is a file :)
[02:16] <z6bt> Engla: use mplayer
[02:17] <qferret> especially in programming
[02:17] <z6bt> does anyone know?
[02:17] <leftist> it's all the same today you know but i know where your eluding to :D
[02:17] <leftist> lol
[02:17] <crusso> After you install in the default configuration (not "expert").  Is there an easy way to switch to a "server" setup, or should I just re-install as expert and specify server in there somewhere?
[02:17] <Makura> LordMelkor: What should I do?
[02:17] <Engla> z6bt: you think? No thanks :-) [you got the wrong person, right] 
[02:17] <ryan_ishere> polpak, could it be because linux is predisposed to hating me?
[02:17] <qferret> makura..... new Ubuntu install?
[02:17] <mike-e_> what does this partition mean? tmpfs                 372M   13M  359M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[02:17] <Makura> qferret: Yes, I'm sorry =P
[02:17] <ryan_ishere> polpak, possibly because mom mom goes college?
[02:17] <IdleOne> crusso>  you can reinstall server by typing server at prompt
[02:17] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having some booting up trouble... I copied everything from my old hard-drive to my new one (2 partitions... linux and swap). Now I can't get the os to load
[02:17] <qferret> Google for "Ubuntu Automatix"
[02:17] <ryanakca> and yes, I've checked that the ribbon cables are in the right place :)
[02:18] <ryan_ishere> polpak, my mom goes to college?
[02:18] <Makura> qferret: Completely new to this.  Okay, I will.
[02:18] <ryanakca> I take it that grub/MBR never got transfered over by symantec ghost or something... and also, how do I fix it?
[02:18] <IdleOne> !automatix
[02:18] <LordMelkor> Makura http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu > click install multimedia codecs
[02:18] <z6bt> Engla: then you have to get the win32 codecs some AVI files have windows media format in them for some reason
[02:18] <qferret> It will install codecs, java, dvd libs etc automatically
[02:18] <crusso> idleone: Oh, instead of "install".  Okay, thanks.
[02:18] <ufo> crusso, there are nothin special on server install what cant do with normal installation... it mostly only the sudo thing
[02:18] <ryan_ishere> qferret, i had a ferret once. he died in a fire that consumed my room.
[02:18] <crusso> ufo: thanks
[02:19] <Engla> z6bt: you are still talking to the wrong nick :-)
[02:19] <_M4Ld> qferret: any idea how do get rid of the Gdk warning during system update/installation? it says locale not supported at Xlib. HELP!
[02:19] <qferret> I got rid of mine when my oldest learned to crawl....he was jealous of her
[02:19] <IdleOne> tell qferret  about automatix
[02:19] <qferret> sorry _M4Ld ....no clue on that one...have you Googled the exact error?
[02:20] <ryan_ishere> qferret, his name was Maximus and he enjoyed walks on the beach at sundown and sleeping in a hammock made from a pillow case by myself
[02:20] <_M4Ld> yup no results.
[02:20] <z6bt> Engla: sorry ehehe
[02:20] <_M4Ld> thanks anyway.
[02:20] <qferret> sorry _M4Ld
[02:20] <qferret> IdleOne, huh?
[02:20] <_M4Ld> it's ok.
[02:21] <_M4Ld> i'l try to search for again.
[02:21] <_M4Ld> hahhaha.
[02:21] <``Respect> could someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?
[02:21] <IdleOne> !automatix
[02:21] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:21] <IdleOne> qferret> ^
[02:21] <qferret> ahhhh....
[02:21] <ryan_ishere> polpak, you still with me im sorry i dont mean to prod im just impatient
[02:22] <qferret> easy for n00bs though...fairly pain free on a new install
[02:22] <``Respect> could someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?
[02:22] <qferret> no config file worries if nothing's config'd
[02:22] <IdleOne> qferret>  exactly why noobs shouldnt use it
[02:22] <ryan_ishere> qferret, could you help me?
[02:22] <Amaranth> If you use automatix we won't help you unbreak things.
[02:22] <``Respect> any one know?
[02:22] <qferret> I dunno ryan_ishere ....
[02:23] <qferret> polpak seemed to cover about everything I could think of
[02:23] <ryan_ishere> qferret, MY COMP still wont play my Modest Mouse could you remedy the situation
[02:23] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: what kind of file is it?
[02:23] <qferret> right click on the speaker icon and go to properties
[02:23] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, mp3 i believe
[02:24] <``Respect> could someone tell me the command to get svn command to work?
[02:24] <qferret> ah...shit LOL
[02:24] <brenner> ``Respect: you could always read the doc.  or use one of the frontends
[02:24] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: enable universe and multiverse, then install the gstreamer0.8-plugins package
[02:24] <``Respect> k
[02:24] <Amaranth> qferret: Language.
[02:24] <qferret> good call Amaranth
[02:24] <IdleOne> ``Respect>   well, svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[02:24] <``Respect> okay thx
[02:24] <IdleOne> no problem
[02:24] <_M4Ld> can anybody recommend a C++ programming language i could use?
[02:25] <HymnToLife> hmm
[02:25] <qferret> C++?
[02:25] <_M4Ld> for linux
[02:25] <HymnToLife> C++ ?
[02:25] <rukuartic> Haha...  o-o
[02:25] <_M4Ld> a particular name?
[02:25] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, do you mean a compiler?
[02:25] <HymnToLife> that's pretty much the only C++ language I know
[02:25] <Amaranth> C++ is a programming language
[02:25] <lafferpt> does anybody have Shorewall installed???
[02:25] <Amaranth> you want an IDE?
[02:25] <qferret> I use Anjuta _M4Ld ...works well for me
[02:25] <_M4Ld> ic.
[02:25] <Amaranth> i think anjuta does C++, otherwise maybe kdevelop
[02:25] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, giving that a try right now
[02:26] <rukuartic> Anyone have experience with firestarter and hlds?
[02:26] <ryan_ishere> Can you all at least agree that windows is a nice op system?
[02:26] <IdleOne> Amaranth>  where were you an hour ago with the answer to ryan_ishere  question
[02:26] <_M4Ld> ok. thanks guys. il try to check it
[02:26] <rukuartic> ryan_ishere, User friendly, yes. Efficient programming/resources, probably not.
[02:26] <ryan_ishere> agreed rukuartic
[02:26] <qferret> For something that takes 2 GB and comes with no productivity software...sure
[02:26] <XiCillin> does ubuntu come with any backup programs?
[02:26] <Amaranth> IdleOne: probably eating :P
[02:27] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, sitll doesnt work
[02:27] <HymnToLife> rukuartic> I'd rather say 'idiot-friendlr' :D
[02:27] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: you installed that package?
[02:27] <rukuartic> HymnToLife, Now now, lets not bang on our computer-impaired friends.
[02:27] <HymnToLife> lol
[02:27] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, yes
[02:27] <IdleOne> 1st rule to tech support start with the the wires and make sure they are plugged in :P
[02:27] <rukuartic> HymnToLife, at one point, I was a windoze user too
[02:27] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: what are you using to play it?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> well, you know what ?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> I'm on windows right now
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> Does alsamixer change the gain of the microphone, or just how much the input to it plays through the speakers?
[02:28] <rukuartic> Anyone know a good way of getting out of GDM/X and into a terminal without losing your login session?
[02:28] <ryan_ishere> amarantth, mplayer
[02:28] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: oh, try rhythmbox
[02:28] <ufo> rukuartic, ctrl+alt+f1 or f2
[02:28] <ryan_ishere> hymntolife, if you need a knowlege base just to use and fix the bugs of something its not a very marketable product now is it?
[02:28] <rukuartic> ryan_ishere, amaroK :D
[02:28] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: I believe it's Applications->Sound & Video->Music Player
[02:28] <rukuartic> ufo, but does that actually kill X/GDM?
[02:28] <IdleOne> rukuartic>  ctrl+alt+F1 F7 to get back here
[02:28] <lafferpt> does anybody have Shorewall installed???
[02:29] <ufo> rukuartic, no you can get it back with same command and f7
[02:29] <HymnToLife> ryan_ishere> bugs ? never saw any
[02:29] <rukuartic> ufo, Looking to free up system memory :P How about killing x/gdm but keeping running programs going?
[02:30] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, says couldnt stop playback failed to close audio output sink
[02:30] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, probably because of something qferret told me to do
[02:30] <brenner> Amaranth: re: smeg.  someone installed something via apt.  they then removed it via apt, but the menu entry remained.  he couldn't delete it (the option was greyed out).  i told him it was the package developers fault, but is there a way to remove entries forcefully?
[02:30] <Reg|ster> some one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?
[02:30] <qferret> ryan_ishere,  at least you can fix the bugs with a knowledge base...fixing bugs under Windows is often unlawful ;-)
[02:30] <ufo> rukuartic, if the programs run on x you cant do that they need the xserver to run
[02:30] <rukuartic> ufo, They're console programs... running in screen
[02:30] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: ok, System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector
[02:30] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know anything about sc_trans_linux?
[02:31] <sorush20> what files do I need to install to be able to boot my usb camera it used to work I dont' know what has gone worng. kde is not auto detecting it
[02:31] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, im there
[02:31] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: what is the output sink set to?
[02:31] <IdleOne> sorush20>  #kubuntu may be able to help you
[02:31] <ufo> rukuartic, you could start them in console f1
[02:31] <sorush20> no sorry they are all out IdleOne
[02:31] <Reg|ster> some one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?
[02:31] <rukuartic> ufo, If I go to console (f1) and then kill off gdm/x will I lose my apps?
[02:31] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, alsa
[02:31] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: if it's ALSA try setting it to esd (esound)
[02:32] <Amaranth> and click test
[02:32] <brenner> Reg|ster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ...look right at the bottom.  there's something called dmix iirc
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> Can I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?
[02:32] <ufo> yes because they run on xterm or similar
[02:32] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, i tried that before i still have nothing
[02:32] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: no sound when you click test?
[02:32] <rukuartic> ubotu, sound problems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:32] <ubotu> rukuartic: okay
[02:32] <Reg|ster> thancs brenner
[02:32] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, no sound
[02:32] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: does _any_ sound work?
[02:32] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: in any app
[02:33] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, no sir
[02:33] <ryan_ishere> but now the song "plays"
[02:33] <rukuartic> ufo, woot. anything like gkrellm etc that I can monitor system resources with?
[02:33] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, just no sound
[02:33] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: Oh, you've got a completely different problem.
[02:33] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: maybe the sound is muted? :)
[02:33] <crimsun> ryan_ishere: pastebin your amixer output
[02:33] <kerskine> howdy kids - I've got a question
[02:33] <rukuartic> kerskine, how old are you? :P
[02:33] <Amaranth> crimsun to the rescue!
[02:33] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, yet again im not that retarded
[02:33] <ryan_ishere> here ill try to see if its hooked up wrong in the back
[02:34] <IdleOne> kerskine>  shoot :)
[02:34] <kerskine> kids = everyone :)
[02:34] <rukuartic> ryan_ishere, It'd be putting your fut into your mouth and see that it was though XD
[02:34] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: even if it shows up in GNOME as not muted it could be turned all the way down at a lower level
[02:34] <kerskine> ok - my system has been freezing 1-2 times a day over the past 3 days
[02:34] <bluemax> can someone help me get mp3 playback to work? i have lame installed but i'm getting audio driver errors in every audio app i play them in
[02:34] <ryan_ishere> amaranth, i cant see how that could be the problem since it works in the windows that i have set up on another partition
[02:34] <_M4Ld> qferret: if i wrote a program in ajunta, would it still run in the windows environment?
[02:34] <_M4Ld> Anjuta that is.
[02:35] <rukuartic> Bluemax, tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[02:35] <kerskine> is there anything that I can set to trap any errors that crop up? /var/log/messages doesn't record anything out of the ordinary
[02:35] <IdleOne> kerskine>  need more info then that. have you installed anything or removed anything?
[02:35] <denatoc> is it just me or is transcode broken?
[02:35] <Amaranth> ryan_ishere: I'll let crimsun take over from here, he knows more about sound cards than me.
[02:35] <ryan_ishere> crimsun, how are you?
[02:35] <kerskine> IdleOne: recently replaced a disk on this machine
[02:35] <rukuartic> kerskine, is your box just slowing down and slowing down until it locks, or is it a sudden death thing?
[02:35] <qferret> _M4Ld,  if you wrote it for Windows...
[02:35] <crimsun> ryan_ishere: ?
[02:35] <ryanakca> would this work with the knoppix cd? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%29
[02:35] <VR`> how do i downgrade irssi if i installed it from source? i want to use the version that came with ubuntu.
[02:35] <kerskine> IdleOne: sudden death
[02:35] <IdleOne> kerskine>  bad disk maybe
[02:35] <ryan_ishere> amarath, thanks for your help anyway i appreciate it
[02:35] <_M4Ld> no.
[02:35] <denatoc> tough crowd
[02:35] <denatoc> :/
[02:35] <bluemax> rukuartic, yeah i looked there, and i have all gstreamer plugins installed, both 0.8 and 0.10
[02:35] <ryanakca> I really don't feel like downloading a Ubuntu Live cd...
[02:36] <ryan_ishere> crimsun, what do i type in the terminal to show you that?
[02:36] <_M4Ld> im using ubuntu now, but my professors are using windows.
[02:36] <qferret> console apps, _M4Ld ?
[02:36] <rukuartic> bluemax, does audio output work in general?
[02:36] <crimsun> ryan_ishere: amixer
[02:36] <CrazyOne> if i install something with make install how do i uninstall it?
[02:36] <Amaranth> ryanakca: if knoppix uses grub, sure
[02:36] <bluemax> yes, i've been watching movies
[02:36] <kitche> CrazyOne make uninstall
[02:37] <kerskine> IdleOne: maybe  - is there any way to trace the kernel?
[02:37] <_M4Ld> what do you mean?
[02:37] <qferret> "DOS box"
[02:37] <_M4Ld> console apps?
[02:37] <brenner> CrazyOne: next time use checkinstall :)
[02:37] <IdleOne> kerskine>  Im sure there is but I dont know how :/
[02:37] <bluemax> actually, i'm been watching NSV streaming movies, which audio is mp3 encoded... can ubuntu not handle more than one mp3 audio thread at once?
[02:37] <CrazyOne> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[02:37] <rukuartic> bluemax, try getting mpg123 and see if you can get that to work. you might just have your programs configured wrong by accident
[02:37] <kitche> did you delete the folder CrazyOne?
[02:38] <mikebot> is there a way /in ubuntu/ (so this is not off topic) to make it so the people watching my network wont be able to tell that i'm torrenting?
[02:38] <CrazyOne> no
[02:38] <V4Vendetta> mikebot~ change the port
[02:38] <bluemax> rukuartic, actually i just stopped the movie i was watching, and now i can play the music files
[02:38] <qferret> Do they run under DOS/terminal window, or in Windows with pretty GUI?
[02:38] <_M4Ld> qferret, what do you mean by console apps? apps in the GUI environment?
[02:38] <jetscreamer> you not the urt vendetta are you
[02:38] <qferret> _M4Ld, ^^
[02:38] <VR`> how do i downgrade irssi if i installed it from source? i want to use the version that came with ubuntu.
[02:38] <rukuartic> bluemax, Haha... oh dear.
[02:38] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, how do i do that?
[02:38] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, it's a school network
[02:39] <ryan_ishere> crimsun, could you paste the pastebin url please?
[02:39] <dURKA> where is the control panel on ubuntu
[02:39] <V4Vendetta> mikebot~ the program will have an option for what port
[02:39] <qferret> dURKA,  System -> Administration
[02:39] <ryan_ishere> im sorry but i have to go now
[02:39] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, and by changing the port they wont be able to notice?
[02:40] <rukuartic> mikebot, best not to bittorrent in universities
[02:40] <bluemax> rukuartic, just wondering, why can't ubuntu's audio handle more than one mp3 playback at once? in windows i can play more than one mp3 at the same time (if i needed to)
[02:40] <dURKA> how do i edit sound devices?
[02:40] <ryan_ishere> i appreciate you guys tring to help but ive got to go
[02:40] <ryan_ishere> take care
[02:40] <Engla> VR`: uninstall, then install the repository version?
[02:40] <rukuartic> bluemax, don't know. never tried. lemme try.
[02:40] <VR`> Engla how do i uninstall
[02:40] <mikebot> rukuartic, ah, but the other p2p stuff for ubuntu isn't very good...soulseek for windows orked very well, but for some reason nicotine sucks
[02:40] <denatoc> does anybody in here have a working transcode install?
[02:40] <rukuartic> bluemax, should be able to
[02:41] <rukuartic> !sound problems
[02:41] <ubotu> hmm... sound problems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:41] <jon_> mikebot, Limewire\Frostwire.
[02:41] <mikebot> jon_, which of those two is better?
[02:41] <rukuartic> bluemax, works for me
[02:41] <jon_> mikebot, They are both the same, but Frostwire is just a "hack" of Limewire, (no prompts to upgrade, etc)  Connects to the same network.
[02:42] <Engla> VR`: you installed from source? Did you install it with checkinstall or just 'make install'
[02:42] <VR`> Engla make install
[02:42] <mikebot> jon_, okay, thanks
[02:42] <bluemax> rukuartic, that's odd... i have to configure my audio better
[02:42] <rukuartic> bluemax, using an old card?
[02:42] <mikebot> so there is no way, then, to torrent at a university?
[02:42] <qferret> _M4Ld, Do the apps run in a "DOS box"? or a "Window"?
[02:42] <BlueEagle> !info bld
[02:42] <ubotu> bld: (Black List Daemon, automatically build blacklists), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.2-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 180 kB
[02:42] <Engla> VR`: if you have the source package left, you can run 'make uninstall' If not, you need to get the same source, and "./configure make" it identically and then 'make uninstall'
[02:42] <_M4Ld> let us sa windows box.
[02:42] <denatoc> thanks so much for the help people, i wish i could somehow repay the kindness
[02:42] <BlueEagle> anyone know how to work bld?
[02:42] <rukuartic> bluemax, some older cards are "half duplex"... basically, can only send or recieve, but not at the same time. still, shouldn't have a problem with multiple outputs
[02:42] <bluemax> rukuartic, actually i'm using a brand new laptop, though i don't know what kind of audio is onboard
[02:42] <VR`> Engla got it, thanks
[02:43] <Engla> VR`: it should work if irssi is packaged with the standard toos
[02:43] <Engla> *tools
[02:43] <rukuartic> bluemax, Internal?
[02:43] <bluemax> rukuartic, yup
[02:43] <qferret> _M4Ld, so they like have buttons and drop downs etc?
[02:43] <VR`> Engla thanks
[02:43] <BlueEagle> !bld
[02:43] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[02:43] <rukuartic> bluemax, Oh I gues it would be with a laptop :P
[02:43] <dURKA> after i got to system adminstration what do i do, i what to change the ALAS sound thing
[02:43] <bluemax> hehe
[02:43] <_M4Ld> qferret, yes
[02:43] <qferret> that complicates things a bit
[02:44] <_M4Ld> qferret, tsk tsk..
[02:44] <rukuartic> BlueEagle, Try going to their website and looking for an IRC Channel...
[02:44] <qferret> you can still do it, but I don't think Anjuta has a "Project Wizard" for Windows apps
[02:44] <brenner> VR`: next time use checkinstall :)
[02:44] <dURKA> hello?
[02:44] <VR`> brenner the how-to told me to use make install
[02:44] <VR`> :\
[02:45] <brenner> dURKA: sys>prefs>mm systems
[02:45] <qferret> DOS and console apps will compile under either environment without much trouble....GUI's use more API's, etc.
[02:45] <dURKA> ??
[02:45] <_M4Ld> qferret, so basically, i would be having a problem if i wrote a program in anjuta which would be opened in windows, right?
[02:45] <VR`> brenner and when i do use checkinstall, what's the difference?
[02:45] <Mattha> hi
[02:45] <Fable> where r the reposotories again?
[02:45] <qferret> Probably
[02:45] <brenner> VR`: it makes a deb file and installs it for you.  you can then remove it later using any apt tool
[02:45] <rukuartic> Fable, they should come in preinstalled
[02:45] <qferret> lemme look quick....
[02:45] <Fable> no i mean wat folder
[02:46] <rukuartic> Fable, go open up synaptic, I think its Settings>Repositories
[02:46] <Fable> eh?
[02:46] <VR`> brenner that's much nicer!
[02:46] <rukuartic> Fable, Oh... grep /etc for apt, I think. I have no clue, someone else in here should
[02:46] <_M4Ld> qferret, how about, if i wrote an app for windows but still using anjuta. is it possible?
[02:46] <Fable> just were is the txt file that holds them
[02:46] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, Wine?
[02:46] <brenner> VR`: yep
[02:46] <Fable> k
[02:46] <Fable> thx
[02:46] <bimberi> Fable: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <VR`> brenner thanks for the tip
[02:46] <brenner> VR`: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:47] <Engla> VR`: right, checkinstall is great. Install it with synaptic
[02:47] <_M4Ld> rukuartic, wine is the other way around. that is from windows to linus
[02:47] <VR`> thanks guys
[02:47] <brenner> VR`: spread the word
[02:47] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, Are you trying to run linux on windows, or windows on linux?
[02:47] <mikebot> how can i uninstall nicotine?
[02:47] <qferret> _M4Ld, you can "write" an app for windows using gedit if you like....compiling is another story.
[02:47] <VR`> will do
[02:48] <VR`> brenner can i do this with any source?
[02:48] <_M4Ld> qferret,  ic.
[02:48] <rukuartic> mikebot, Did you install with apt-get?
[02:48] <_M4Ld> rukuartic, no, i would like to write an app in linux and run it in windows.
[02:48] <mikebot> rukuartic, probably, yeah
[02:48] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, Try Cygwin maybe...
[02:49] <_M4Ld> rukuartic, ok i'l check it out.
[02:49] <rukuartic> mikebot, dpkg -list | grep nicotine
[02:49] <brenner> VR`: afaik, aything with a makefile, yes
[02:49] <_M4Ld> thanks qferret & rukuartic
[02:49] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, XD I hope I actually helped
[02:50] <rukuartic> mikebot, Sorry, its actually dpkg -l | grep nicotine
[02:50] <Reg|ster> how can i install amsn whit the file program ?
[02:51] <mikebot> rukuartic, ii  nicotine                               1.0.8rc1-1.1 graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-pe
[02:51] <IdleOne> Reg|ster> sudo apt-get install amsn
[02:51] <rukuartic> mikebot, Yep you installed it with apt-get
[02:51] <Engla> VR`: making a package adds some features but loses you some else. For example, making a package, it makes sure you don't overwrite files belonging to another package. Some 'make install' (few) applications depend on being able to do that though, so that will not work with checkinstall. However I think it's a good feature to have that level of control.
[02:51] <rukuartic> mikebot, apt-get remove nicotine
[02:51] <VR`> Engla i see
[02:51] <qferret> _M4Ld, ....not looking good for the home team
[02:52] <rukuartic> mikebot, D'arg. sudo apt-get remove nicotine
[02:52] <VR`> Engla one more qustion... it says instead of sudo make install, use sudo checkinstall. what do i use instead of make and ./configure
[02:52] <mikebot> rukuartic, hhe thanks a lot
[02:52] <_M4Ld> :)
[02:52] <Engla> VR`: just the same
[02:52] <rukuartic> mikebot, No problem :)
[02:52] <qferret> good to know...I'll be there eventually.....still on console apps right now, so I can submit source code and it will compile under either OS
[02:52] <Engla> VR`: so it's "./configure; make; sudo checkinstall"
[02:53] <VR`> Engla great, thanks
[02:53] <rukuartic> Wow. Apt-get just said it had super cow powers.
[02:53] <_M4Ld> qferret, i'l try anjuta
[02:53] <qferret> It's actaullay a good IDE, but I don't know if it will compile a Windows exe
[02:54] <Fable> does neone else have probelsm with a onbaord gig lan
[02:54] <Reg|ster> iam geting this one Package tcltls is not installed.
[02:54] <rukuartic> Fable, I did a while back... What, doesn't want to work?
[02:55] <Reg|ster> IdleOne,  apt-get install amsn dont work  dont think i have the urls or some thing
[02:55] <mikebot> jon_, do i have to config anything to get frostwire to connect?
[02:55] <IdleOne> Reg|ster>  did you enable universe and multiverse?
[02:55] <Reg|ster> no how do i do that ?
[02:55] <Trinitrogen> Is anybody elses Wireless really shady? sometimes I have to bring down and up and down and up my wireless device to findally get online?
[02:55] <IdleOne> !tell Reg|ster  about repos
[02:55] <rukuartic> Trinisan, Using ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <IdleOne> Reg|ster>  follow the link in the msg ubotu  just sent you
[02:56] <dm_> !mountiso
[02:56] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[02:56] <Fable> rukuartic: well it works sum times and not others... i can get google up and then later on it wont work at all... i have tried configuring my ip and dns and all that sorta stuff but it just hates to browse the net
[02:56] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: you talking to me?
[02:56] <rukuartic> Fable, Try forcing it to run under 100 mbps
[02:56] <jon_> mikebot, You shouldn't have too.
[02:56] <Reg|ster> ok :)
[02:56] <Fable> hwo do i do that
[02:56] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, I meant that XD
[02:56] <rukuartic> Fable, Unfortunately, I have no clue.
[02:56] <Fable> lol
[02:56] <Fable> dw then
[02:56] <IdleOne> Reg|ster>  when that is done try the amsn command again and it should work :)
[02:56] <rukuartic> Fable, I know how to do it in windows
[02:56] <mikebot> jon_, hrm, cause it doens't connect
[02:56] <Fable> ah
[02:56] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: i don't even know what XD is
[02:56] <Fable> nah i want to get rid of windows
[02:57] <Fable> but it aint gtunna happen if i cant browse
[02:57] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, How did you get your wireless working?
[02:57] <Fable> maybe dapper drake will have it fixd
[02:57] <jon_> mikebot, Do you have a firewall running?  Because I don't know what Frostwire uses port wise, but it'll use something ;)
[02:57] <rukuartic> Fable, ask around to see if anyone knows how to make your card work at 100 mbps only
[02:57] <VR`> Engla sorry to bother you again. is there possibly a list of all the libs that are required to build stuff from source? i kinda had to learn the hard way that i need libgtk, libglib and build-essential
[02:57] <jon_> mikebot, But I must admit, I was just leaving, so good luck, and I apologize.
[02:57] <rukuartic> jon_, he's university. They probably block ports
[02:58] <mikebot> jon_, hehe, no, but i'm behind a school network, but i have no trouble connecting to soulsseek
[02:58] <mikebot> jonas3, when iw as on windows
[02:58] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: On campus its "easy". theres WPA encryption with Thawte certificates and stuff, things I could never figure out. luckily some nerd in the Linux Users group here figured it out, and using his guide I put together a script. 80 percent of the time, it works all the tim
[02:58] <Fable> k
[02:58] <rukuartic> Can anyone reccomend a good firewall?
[02:58] <Fable> anyoine know how to make my gig card work at 100mbs only!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:58] <Fable> :D
[02:59] <IdleOne> rukuartic>  your router will all the ports blocked
[02:59] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, try running this command: "ndiswrapper -l"
[02:59] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: but at home, theres people with open wifi's I try to connect to, but its always dramatic, involving me uping and downing eth1, activating and what not
[02:59] <IdleOne> but try firestater
[02:59] <mikebot> argh
[02:59] <mikebot> anyone here use frostwire?
[02:59] <XiCillin> does gnome have a cron gui?
[02:59] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, Uh, wireless is wlan, not eth.
[02:59] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: not on mine
[02:59] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic:.... I don't think...
[02:59] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, And if they're someone elses, you better have permission
[03:00] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, But usually you'll get shaky signals if you're even a house down
[03:00] <Trinitrogen> rukuartic: they are my fraternity brothers and Im the reason there internet works... consent is implied ;)
[03:00] <Fable> anyoine know how to make my gig card work at 100mbs only!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:00] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, Someone microwaves something... turns on a 2.4 ghz phone...
[03:01] <rukuartic> Fable, Definately not the way to ask the question...
[03:01] <Fable> :D
[03:01] <Fable> and y do u say that
[03:01] <Fable> :P
[03:01] <IdleOne> Fable>  more info . like the type of card
[03:01] <Fable> umm hang on
[03:02] <Buckuntu> ok, I'm having problems getting any sound out of VLC, anyone know about this issue?
[03:02] <rukuartic> Fable, Compare that to, "Hey, I'm having trouble with my 1000mpbs ethernet card. It doesn't seem to work for (reason) and I see these (symptoms). Could anyone help me?"
[03:02] <IdleOne> Fable>  more info you can give about your issue the more help you will get
[03:02] <IdleOne> or what rukuartic  said :)
[03:02] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, You could always search for home made wireless signal boosters/receptors... be careful though. Not my fault if you fry an eyeball :P
[03:03] <Fable> my onbaord gig is a Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC
[03:03] <mikebot> if anyone is running limewire or frostwire, i would appreciate it if they could check the incoming port they have it set to listent o, and let me know, thanks
[03:03] <Fable> and i wuld like to get it to run at 100mbs only
[03:03] <rukuartic> Trinitrogen, I use gkrellm with a wireless plugin... helps me see my current speed/resident noise/signal strength etc
[03:03] <_M4Ld> qferret, can you recommend a site for me to read about the installation of anjuta. all i can see in my searches are tutorials
[03:04] <rukuartic> _M4Ld, Does it come with a README/INSTALL file?
[03:04] <joelw23> can lame be obtained through synaptic
[03:05] <_M4Ld> although, i haven't unpack it yet. hahahah.
[03:05] <rukuartic> joelw23, I don't know. Did you use the search button? :P
[03:05] <_M4Ld> sorry. i forgot about it.
[03:05] <mattwestm> how long does it take for my smb servers to show up under network?
[03:05] <bimberi> joelw23: yes, if you have multiverse enabled
[03:05] <rukuartic> bimberi, Nice save! :O
[03:05] <bimberi> _M4Ld: anjuta is in the repositories btw
[03:05] <bimberi> rukuartic: :)
[03:05] <rukuartic> bimberi, And again! :O I'm being shown up.
[03:05] <Durka> i lost all sound how can i fix this plz help :o
[03:06] <joelw23> how do i enable multivers
[03:06] <IdleOne> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[03:06] <hatake_kakashi> !tell joelw23 about multiverse
[03:06] <bimberi> !tell joelw23 about multiverse
[03:06] <Durka> how do i get my sound back
[03:06] <_M4Ld> bimberi, ic. thanks i'l check it.
[03:06] <Durka> its not working any more
[03:06] <rukuartic> Durka, Whatd'ja do to make it stop?
[03:06] <Durka> ill i did was alasmixer
[03:06] <Durka> and i mic boosted
[03:07] <Durka> now it dont work any more
[03:07] <Henry_Bean> hi, somebody could synchronize a Palm E2 whith g-pilot?
[03:07] <joelw23> is this bad
[03:07] <joelw23> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:07] <jetscreamer> do apt-get update first
[03:08] <jetscreamer> sudo style that is
[03:08] <bimberi> !us
[03:08] <ubotu> us is, like, a mirror that's often quite broken. Pick a better mirror from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:08] <jetscreamer> ah
[03:08] <Durka> so do i have to reinstall
[03:08] <IdleOne> Durka>  probably not
[03:09] <Trinitrogen> Okay, I just reinstalled GRUB into my MBR from a Ubuntu Live CD, and now I need to edit my menu.lst file to reflect the new partition linux is on... how do I mount it and edit it?
[03:09] <joelw23> jetscreamer: you talking to me??
[03:09] <Durka> is there a way to fix it
[03:09] <IdleOne> joelw23>  sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <joelw23> do i check souce & binary for mulitverse
[03:10] <joelw23> ok
[03:10] <bimberi> joelw23: binary is enough
[03:10] <Durka> i cant seem to get the sound back
[03:10] <Durka> any ideas
[03:11] <Reg|ster> some one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?  i asked this for some time ago but my firefoxed closed and now i cant find it agen
[03:11] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/disk && sudo mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/disk'  (where hd?? is the partition that has /boot ('sudo fdisk -l' might help with that)
[03:12] <Durka> wtf im gonna reinstall
[03:12] <Durka> cuz this is retarded
[03:13] <Durka> is there a better distro for gamers?
[03:13] <burner> very light on resources saved for games :)
[03:13] <Trinitrogen> bimberi: Am I going to need to modify my fstab too?
[03:14] <Durka> so xubutu is better for games?
[03:14] <burner> depends on the games you play i'd suppose
[03:14] <Durka> but i never seen any reviews for xubutu
[03:14] <burner> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <polpak> Durka, I don't have any problems w/ games in ubuntu
[03:14] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: yes, if it isn't pointing to the correct devices
[03:14] <burner> http://burner.ath.cx/screenshots.jpg
[03:14] <burner> http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot.jpg
[03:15] <burner> what kinda sound card Durka?
[03:15] <Trinitrogen> bimberi: wheres fstab at
[03:15] <Durka> agere ac97 integrated
[03:15] <burner> Durka, what type of files you playin?  what app?
[03:15] <bimberi> Trinitrogen: /etc/fstab
[03:15] <Durka> there are no sounds what so ever no clicking or that crazy ubuntu music
[03:16] <burner> uhh... can you play music with rhythmbox or something?
[03:16] <Durka> i was playing music ealiear but it dont work cuz the sounds not
[03:16] <burner> beep-media-player, xfmedia, quodlibet, amarok, xmms, etc?
[03:16] <burner> what does it say?
[03:16] <Reg|ster> some one know how i can get sound in more than 1 program ?  i asked this for some time ago but my firefoxed closed and now i cant find it agen
[03:17] <goodboy> hello i want to instal gaim-1.5.0.x86.package
[03:17] <burner> Durka, system->preferences->sound and pick the right sound card?
[03:17] <goodboy> how i can do that
[03:17] <duckdown> Hi all.. I'm running Dapper 4, but no matter what I do I cannot get my SSL IRC servers to work.. I have installed all kinds of *ssl* packages like libssl, openssl, etc. and have MULTIPLE IRC clients with SSL-support, yet, whenever I connect to an SSL IRC server it just seems to hang on the connecting part.. It doesn't exchange certificates or what not.. What do I need to do get this working? Can someone please he
[03:17] <burner> goodboy, chmod +x on it and double click it... though a .deb package is prolly a better idea
[03:17] <bimberi> duckdown: #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <polpak> goodboy gaim is installed in ubuntu by default
[03:18] <Durka> there is only one sound card and it still dont work
[03:18] <kidem> Hey does Ubuntu come with Front end for Iptables ? or FW
[03:18] <burner> Durka, is the module loaded?
[03:18] <burner> Durka, what is the error given by music apps?
[03:18] <goodboy> i want to add protocol paltalk in gaim who have any idia
[03:18] <burner> goodboy, you a developer?
[03:18] <goodboy> like as msn yahoo icq.....................................
[03:18] <rob_> if i am installing a program, from an .sh file, where would be the best directory to put it in, so then i can just run the name of the program from the terminal
[03:19] <goodboy> no
[03:19] <Durka> what module
[03:19] <bimberi> kidem: not by default, but firestarter (for example) is available in the repositories
[03:19] <kidem> thx
[03:19] <goodboy> but it is possible
[03:19] <Durka> there is no error
[03:19] <Durka> the sound just stops
[03:19] <kidem> is it aptitude firestarter or something like that
[03:19] <bur[n] er> goodboy: it is?
[03:19] <Durka> ive read this happens in this distro
[03:19] <goodboy> yes
[03:19] <Durka> thats why many ppl dont like it
[03:19] <bimberi> kidem: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[03:19] <rob_> any suggestions...?if i am installing a program, from an .sh file, where would be the best directory to put it in, so then i can just run the name of the program from the terminal
[03:20] <goodboy> i know one programe do that but not working whiht me name glib
[03:20] <bur[n] er> rob_: best bet is to use apt... if that cannot be done.. /usr/bin is a good place
[03:21] <duckdown>  /usr/local/bin
[03:21] <systemofadown> hello
[03:21] <kidem> its said nothing matching Firestarter?
[03:21] <systemofadown> i intalling unbuntu as we speak! ;)
[03:22] <bimberi> kidem: you will need the universe repository enabled ...
[03:22] <rob_> how would i remove a program, that i installed with a .sh file?
[03:22] <bimberi> !tell kidem about universe
[03:22] <systemofadown> because of a year with gentoo i've had enough
[03:22] <bimberi> systemofadown: your cpu needs a rest? :P
[03:23] <tedda> hi can anyone help me, who do i format a floppy disc?
[03:23] <Xeon3D> is there a channel for ppc-based ubuntu talking? :)
[03:23] <bimberi> tedda: Applications -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter
[03:23] <Falstius> mkfs.vfat /dev/floopy ?
[03:23] <tedda> lol me feel stupid tnx :)
[03:23] <bur[n] er> rob_: gedit the .sh file and see what it does :)
[03:24] <kzc> hi... i having a trouble with openoffice and with wine... (openoffice not running if it isnt with root -and it's no a problem with the permissions of OO- and wine send me a problem with X -and it is well configured casue the rest of programs are running good-) i think that both prob are the same... but i have no clue where to start. Any ideas? :-S
[03:24] <bimberi> tedda: np :)
[03:24] <bur[n] er> rob_: there is no "one answer" for what a .sh file does as they vary widely and can do anything
[03:24] <Reg|ster> how do i get 2 programs to play sound i know its some thing like MIx
[03:24] <rob_> oh alright
[03:24] <rob_> hmm
[03:25] <kidem> hey what other ones that might be in that, cause firestarter isnt one of them, they have to have a front end to iptables
[03:25] <Falstius> Reg|ster: if they will both use ESD that is the easiest way.
[03:26] <tristanmike> rob, what was it that you installed?
[03:26] <Reg|ster> Falstius,  i had a url from this chan earlyer but i lost it and there i had to install some media player and somethign els
[03:28] <blaylock> !mp3
[03:28] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:28] <IdleOne> !ops in offtopic
[03:28] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[03:28] <Falstius> Reg|ster: sorry, I don't know.
[03:28] <Reg|ster> damn
[03:29] <Falstius> kidem: apt-get install firestarter
[03:29] <theeo123> good evening
[03:29] <Genfoo> gd ev. 2 u 2
[03:29] <panzer> firestarter what do it ????
[03:29] <theeo123> Does anyone have a moment, to help me with a small DVd problem?
[03:29] <Genfoo> start a fire?
[03:29] <Genfoo> :o
[03:29] <Genfoo> theeo123, whats the problem
[03:29] <thewayofzen> Any dapper users having issues with the gnome trashcan  permanently deleting any files that you drop there even if it is set to ask first before permanent deletion
[03:30] <Falstius> panzer, it is graphical front-end to iptables
[03:30] <thewayofzen> theeo123,  rent garden state it wont disapoint :)
[03:30] <kidem> anyone used shorewall
[03:30] <kidem> is it ok good
[03:30] <panzer> Falstius aa ok thanks
[03:30] <esponja> hola a todos
[03:30] <theeo123> I've got a DVD, apperently made using UDF, it has a single Tar.gz archive that's 2.4 gig on it
[03:31] <esponja> soy nuevo en linux
[03:31] <Xeon3D> esponja, speak english please.
[03:31] <Reg|ster> found it :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[03:31] <theeo123> everytime I try to read the disk it says it's empt,y  if I make a image file og the disc, and try to open it with archive manager, I get a 0 byte file..
[03:31] <Falstius> esponja: try #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <vincenz> How do I turn of the touchpad?
[03:31] <theeo123> does anyoen know a way to get this file?
[03:31] <esponja> i'm not speak english
[03:33] <Xeon3D> esponja, tenta entrar en #ubuntu-es porque la hablan espaol.
[03:33] <kzc> esponja... te dicen que vayas para #ubuntu-es (canal en espaol)
[03:33] <kidem> Is shorewall GUI?
[03:34] <Xenguy> kidem: no
[03:34] <Arafangion> kidem: No, but it's a very much simplified set of configuration files.
[03:34] <theeo123> It's a backup I made myself, I didn't realise, that linux would have problems with UDf when I burned it...
[03:34] <Xenguy> kidem: but it is a fine firewall :-)
[03:34] <Arafangion> Xenguy: Seconded.
[03:35] <Kube> sup
[03:35] <Xenguy> kidem: the documentation is also well done IMO
[03:35] <Kube> anybody uses KMess here?
[03:35] <kzc> someone has any idea with my prob?
[03:35] <Arafangion> theeo123: I don't think I have had much success with udf with *any* os.
[03:36] <Arafangion> theeo123: Windows requires special addon software for that specific type of udf (There are several variants)
[03:36] <theeo123> I didn't burn it under windows
[03:36] <theeo123> I burned it under linux, using K3B
[03:36] <Xenguy> kzc: you can't run OOo as a normal user?
[03:37] <kzc> no...
[03:37] <cualquiera> hola!!!!!
[03:37] <Falstius> kzc, maybe your ooffice configure files are owned by root.
[03:37] <cualquiera> gente linda---
[03:37] <cualquiera> necesito ayuda
[03:37] <Falstius> or atleast not by you.
[03:37] <Xenguy> kzc: did you install by package, or from source?
[03:37] <kzc> no... i looked in the page. and i found many ppl having the same trouble
[03:37] <Arafangion> kzc: It is a *very* bad practice to run programs as root when you don't need to.
[03:37] <kzc> package with synaptic
[03:38] <cualquiera> hello
[03:38] <Xenguy> kzc: that is certainly odd
[03:38] <IdleOne> !es
[03:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:38] <biovore> Arafangion: you mean like 90% of windows users do?
[03:38] <cualquiera> somewhan can help me?
[03:38] <Arafangion> kzc: Try deleting your ~/.openoffice.org2 directory.
[03:38] <kzc> i know... so i dont use it... i use abiword until i solve the issue
[03:38] <Arafangion> biovore: No comment.
[03:38] <IdleOne> cualquiera>  /j #ubuntu-es
[03:38] <theeo123> AH HA!!! Eureka
[03:39] <Falstius> theeo123, what did it take?
[03:39] <kzc> i did it... and nothing... same... and i reinstall the hole package
[03:39] <kzc> same
[03:39] <theeo123> Aperrently ISO-buster runs decently enoguh under wine,  not goign to need it ever agian but it will work long enoguh for me to get my backup :)
[03:39] <Xenguy> kzc: the issue shouldn't be an issue though -- have you been changing system permissions or otherwise altering the default Ubu install?
[03:39] <theeo123> Note to self,  never eve,r allow K3B to enable UDf agian....ever...
[03:39] <Arafangion> kzc: Reinstall? Isn't it already been installed?
[03:39] <XiCillin> who here is going to upgrade to Dapper with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:40] <kzc> yes... but i tried all that i could think...
[03:40] <Falstius> XiCillin, I probably will.
[03:40] <Xenguy> XiCillin: when it is time, of course
[03:40] <Arafangion> theeo123: imho, if one is using udf, a cd burner program shouldnot be neeccessary - just raw mount.
[03:40] <bimberi> XiCillin: i'll use this - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[03:40] <Xenguy> XiCillin: that is the strength of Debian/Ubu: install once, and upgrade forever :-)
[03:40] <kzc> maybe i put a little work to destroy everything....
[03:40] <sinaduel> I need help, I need a straight answer, I need someone who will actually run me through things
[03:41] <theeo123> wel li was in K3B burning backups, and it gave me a message "K3B has detected single files larger than 2 gig, these will not burn properly unless you enable UDF, do you wish to enable"  yes/No
[03:41] <sinaduel> I cannot write DVD's that are readable on DVD players
[03:41] <Arafangion> kzc: Well, what happens when you try to run OOo?
[03:41] <theeo123> if i selected no it cacncled the burn
[03:41] <david_> hello
[03:41] <jetscreamer> quit writing PAL to use in NTSC or vice-versa
[03:41] <david_> just testing this out
[03:41] <XiCillin> Xenguy, yea, just wondering cus i've heard people have problems upgrading (well, when its int testing mainly)
[03:41] <Xenguy> kzc: the real question is: what is the causing this problem which shouldn't happen in the first place?  What has been changed that would cause this?
[03:41] <rukuartic> Hi david_
[03:41] <kzc> nothing... ot start to think... and then stop--- when i run from bash... same without any message
[03:42] <theeo123> It was my own error in judgment to mace archivesthat big, I wasn't really thinkign about it
[03:42] <rukuartic> Can anyone reccomend a fairly easy to use and configure firewall?
[03:42] <sinaduel> I have avi's and vob files, I try using the programs people have told me about on here, but nothing works
[03:42] <kzc> can i pvt u xenguy?
[03:42] <jetscreamer> qdvdauthor will generate usable scripts that you can cut&paste out of... the scripts don't actually seem functional, but the commands in them are.
[03:42] <Xenguy> XiCillin: upgrading before release is a risky idea; once dapper has been released, then it is a no-brainer :-)
[03:42] <Arafangion> XiCillin: Most people don't have problems unless they use a "mixed" system, or upgrade to known unstable systems (such as Debian Sid)
[03:42] <sinaduel> I have even converted vod files to an ISO but still, when I burn, it doesn't work
[03:42] <jetscreamer> and you need to convert the avi's
[03:42] <sinaduel> vob*
[03:43] <vincenz> !trackpad
[03:43] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz
[03:43] <Xenguy> kzc: in channel please (for the benefit of everyone, including you :-)
[03:43] <vincenz> !mousepad
[03:43] <ubotu> vincenz: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <vincenz> anyone know how to disable the mousepad?
[03:43] <Xenguy> kzc: (thank you for asking BTW)
[03:43] <kzc> yes... ok...
[03:43] <bz0b> hey guys
[03:43] <rukuartic> xenguy, know when drake'll be out?
[03:43] <kzc> well... i change the sudoers...
[03:43] <IdleOne> !dapper
[03:43] <Xenguy> rukuartic: april isn't it?
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[03:43] <kzc> to run the root without sudo
[03:43] <bz0b> pass
[03:43] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: i seem to have the best luck using the commands generated by qdvdauthor (atm)  also, you can't play a PAL vid on and NTSC player
[03:44] <rukuartic> Xenguy, Great b/day present :D
[03:44] <kzc> so i have to do sudo su
[03:44] <Xenguy> rukuartic: :-)
[03:44] <sinaduel> I know that
[03:44] <Arafangion> kzc: Not a great solution.
[03:44] <sinaduel> I understand PAL and NTSC
[03:44] <kzc> no... now i know
[03:44] <sinaduel> I have burned a ton of DVD's on Windows
[03:44] <sinaduel> but, on Linux, anything I burn doesn't work
[03:44] <bz0b> using illeagle pirated software
[03:44] <bz0b> :-)
[03:44] <Xenguy> kzc: aha, that starts to explain things a bit
[03:44] <kzc> but... im new... so i start to practice
[03:45] <rukuartic> bz0b, There's nothing wrong with a sick national bird of America
[03:45] <Xenguy> kzc: can you change the sudoers file back?
[03:45] <Arafangion> kzc: So, as a user, what happens when you run oowriter2?
[03:45] <kzc> yes
[03:45] <sinaduel> I need a program that will burn vob, bup, and ifo files
[03:45] <sizzam> i think i lost my icon that shows you when system updates are available.  how can i get that back (or check to see if its running)
[03:45] <kzc> i did it
[03:45] <jetscreamer> i've told you what works for me sinaduel , i'm still working on the pal->ntsc thing though. (i just cut&paste the commands qdvdauthor genrates)
[03:45] <sinaduel> I know nero does, so what do I use on linux
[03:45] <bz0b> rukuartic, i know :-) oh trust me i know
[03:45] <jetscreamer> my audio is always off :(
[03:45] <jetscreamer> for the conversions
[03:45] <Xenguy> sizzam: run sudo update-manager
[03:45] <bz0b> rukuartic, i had to dban my hard drive 8 times so no one else would know
[03:45] <kzc> but now... it is not the same... and all is the same...
[03:45] <kzc> i can use sudo... but oo doesnt work
[03:46] <rukuartic> bz0b, dban > shred I guess
[03:46] <Arafangion> kzc: Define "Doesn't work".
[03:46] <rukuartic> bz0b, OH! Dave's boot/nuke?
[03:46] <Xenguy> kzc: hrm
[03:46] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: if you have the dvd structure already, k3b does a good job burning it
[03:46] <jetscreamer> works here
[03:46] <Xenguy> kzc: is this a new install BTW?
[03:46] <sinaduel> I have tried k3b, time, and time again
[03:46] <sizzam> Xenguy, that showed me that there are updates avaiable, but the notification icon isnt showing up in the area next to the date
[03:46] <bz0b> rukuartic, umm is that what it stands for? the harddrive scrammbler
[03:46] <rukuartic> bz0b, I figure, worst case, I have a shotgun in my basement
[03:46] <Xenguy> sizzam: IC
[03:46] <sinaduel> please, elaborate on how I burn those files with k3b
[03:46] <kzc> just oo start "thinking" and then nothing
[03:46] <kzc> and i mean NOTHING
[03:46] <Xenguy> sizzam: GNOME?
[03:47] <sizzam> Xenguy, yes
[03:47] <bz0b> rukuartic, i have connections from the middle east :-)
[03:47] <kzc> without message... without nothing
[03:47] <bz0b> JK ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE READING THIS FBI
[03:47] <Arafangion> kzc: What does: ls ~/.openoffice.org2 -lah say?
[03:47] <sizzam> Xenguy, i just looked through the settings in update-manager, i see an option to check for updates every x days, but i dont see anything about enabling the icon
[03:47] <kzc> let me see...
[03:48] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: you used the 'new video dvd project' option in k3b, eh? (works just fine here)
[03:48] <jetscreamer> worked just fine yesterday actually
[03:48] <sinaduel> it doesn't have that on k3b
[03:48] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: right click in the lower pane and add it
[03:48] <bz0b> umm, i want a better distro
[03:48] <dm_> i cant get WoW to run right ... GAH ! i hate booting into windows
[03:48] <Xenguy> sizzam: I'm not exactly sure what mechanism is used to automatically run update-manager, but someone here must
[03:49] <kzc> it says 3 lines... two of my user and the user dir is root
[03:49] <IdleOne> sizzam>  I believe the icon only shows when you have updates that need to be installed..not 100% sure
[03:49] <Arafangion> kzc: There ya go.
[03:49] <Arafangion> kzc: delete the entire ~/.openoffice.org2 directory
[03:49] <kzc> ok
[03:50] <tristanmike> dm_, you should hate the companies for not giving you, the consumer, a method to run your purchaced software
[03:50] <tristanmike> dm_, on linux that is
[03:50] <ryanakca> hmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9945
[03:50] <jetscreamer> you should only buy idsoftware games
[03:50] <Racer5> Hello.
[03:50] <sizzam> IdleOne, i do have updates that need to be installed
[03:50] <IdleOne> sizzam>  in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <jetscreamer> hey look it's ted
[03:50] <sinaduel> jetscreamer: thankyou, thankyou for explaining, no one else ever did
[03:51] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: np been there, usually
[03:51] <Racer5> How do I mount a samba share drive?  I tried using the mount -t smbfs option but its giving me an error.
[03:51] <kzc> ok... its done...
[03:51] <tjs> anyone know how to stop shift+backspace terminating gxl when running compiz + gnome?
[03:51] <kzc> i have to start it now?
[03:51] <sinaduel> jetscreamer: it asks to seperate the files into audio and video, which are these files?
[03:51] <Arafangion> kzc: Can you verify that those directories are actually deleted?
[03:51] <JRWR> does ubuntu support installing onto a ite821x card
[03:51] <tjs> compiz rocks, other than I'm constantly killing it by mistake in this way
[03:52] <kzc> how i do that?
[03:52] <Arafangion> kzc: "ls -lah ~/.openoffice.org2/"
[03:52] <ryanakca> hmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9945
[03:52] <jetscreamer> sinaduel: just put the .vobs and the .ifo's in the video dir k3b made in the bottom. i've never put anything in the audio directory
[03:52] <Arafangion> kzc: Also check that oowriter and related programs are not running, then start oowriter2 again as a user, NOT as root.
[03:52] <jetscreamer> aka put the dvd structure in the video directory
[03:52] <kzc> ok
[03:53] <jetscreamer> there is encode video, and then there is also make new video dvd project, when you right click in that lower pane
[03:53] <Arafangion> kzc: And be aware that using su and sudo, will generally NOT update the environment variables, so things that look for HOME and other variables, will be using yours.
[03:54] <JRWR>  does ubuntu support installing onto a ite8212 IDE card
[03:55] <IdleOne> JRWR>  hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:55] <ryanakca> hmmm.. I have a question... what would I put in as "root (hd<whatgoeshere>,<whatgoeshere>)" if the /etc/fstab file that knoppix made looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9945     (sorry if I'm repeating this too often... I<m using ircii or whatever its called on the knoppix live cd, and I'm not sure if my question is still you your screens :S)
[03:57] <ogionnj> Can someone give me a hand with configuring my ethernet card?
[03:57] <jetscreamer> ryanakca: i haven't looked yet but i think youre talking about grub not fstab
[03:58] <ogionnj> everything worked fine from the live cd, but when I installed, it doesn't connect
[03:58] <diego2k> hi
[03:58] <ryanakca> jetscreamer: yes, I<m trying to get grub to work... I copied all of my stuff onto a bigger hard drive with symantec ghost, and it doesn't want to boot :(
[03:59] <diego2k> someone can help me with dmraid?
[03:59] <jetscreamer> ryanakca: examint /boot/grub/device.map
[03:59] <jetscreamer> ryanakca: no guarantees that udev won't change it on you after you edit :) muhahahaha
[03:59] <jetscreamer> s/examint/examine/
[04:00] <kzc> ok... now i do it all... and same problem
[04:00] <JRWR> IdleOne: it lists no ide cards at all
[04:00] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: what happens if you do sudo ifup eth0
[04:01] <ogionnj> jetscreamer: interface eth0 already configured
[04:01] <kzc> (and now i know that my trouble with wine is just the same)
[04:02] <kkkk> is there any off topic places around here?
[04:02] <diego2k> i have an ASUS mobo A8N-VM with 2 WD CAVIAR SATA2 and can't get it to work with breezy
[04:02] <ryanakca> kkkk: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:02] <Xenguy> kkkk: ubuntu-offtopic I think
[04:02] <kkkk> thanx
[04:02] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: then it seems to be functional. (up) . do you use dhcp or static or what
[04:02] <ryanakca> jetscreamer: udev^
[04:03] <dm_> ASUS Notebooks > ALL
[04:03] <dm_> too bad i cant afford on
[04:03] <kkkk> ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <dm_> one*
[04:03] <jetscreamer> i 'detest' udev
[04:03] <saif> what do u call apps like thonar and nautilus? what should i look for in order to change from nautilus to thonar in gnome?
[04:03] <jetscreamer> and uninstalled it, ymmv though.
[04:03] <jetscreamer> file manager?
[04:03] <Xenguy> Arafangion: as much as I hate to suggest it, should he just reinstall - what do you think?
[04:04] <kzc> well... i think on it xen
[04:04] <ogionnj> oops :)
[04:04] <ogionnj> jetscreamer:  Right now, DHCP.  But I tried static, too
[04:05] <Xenguy> kzc: that is a 'last resort' suggestion - only if nothing else fixes the problem :-/
[04:05] <VictorFade> !helpme network connection
[04:05] <ubotu> VictorFade: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:05] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: is your gateway correct?
[04:05] <ryanakca> gah... bbl... I<m going to try with the install disc...
[04:05] <Arafangion> Xenguy: I don't agree.
[04:05] <jetscreamer> can you ping anything?
[04:05] <diego2k> no one knows about raid config?
[04:05] <Xenguy> !dsl
[04:05] <ubotu> from memory, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:05] <Xenguy> VictorFade: ^^
[04:06] <ogionnj> nope
[04:06] <Xenguy> Arafangion: I tend to agree with you disagreement :-)
[04:06] <VictorFade> xenguy ??
[04:06] <ogionnj> And no addresses visible from ifconfig
[04:06] <Xenguy> your*
[04:06] <Arafangion> Xenguy: I'm fairly sure that his troubles are caused by running gui programs as root, which on ubuntu apparently trashes your ~/home.
[04:06] <Xenguy> !tell VictorFade about dsl
[04:06] <kzc> i know... also... if i had to... i will ask a good place to start with the variables of environment... cause i dont know anything about it
[04:06] <Arafangion> ~/, I mean.
[04:06] <Gau> Does the Ubuntu PPC LiveCD(5.04) have a disk repair utility?
[04:06] <Xenguy> VictorFade: FWIW
[04:07] <VictorFade> i'm not using dsl
[04:07] <Xenguy> Arafangion: ahh
[04:07] <VictorFade> what it mean - FWIW?
[04:07] <diego2k> ok thanks
[04:07] <jetscreamer> for what it's worth?
[04:07] <Xenguy> VictorFade: for what it's worth
[04:07] <jetscreamer> i can't remember yet where you set the gateway, ogionnj
[04:08] <VictorFade> so can you help?
[04:08] <VictorFade> for some reason i reinstall ubuntu
[04:08] <ogionnj> I set the gateway in the network settings to my router
[04:08] <metrix> I installed ubuntu in a "weird" way in that Installed ubuntu hoary up to the point that it asked about downloading packages. I stopped the installation, I dist-upgraded to breazy and then installed ubuntu-desktop. EVERYTHING is great except I don't have sound! does anyone have any ideas about what I should try to fix it?
[04:08] <Xenguy> VictorFade: if you need dsl help, see the msg ubotu sent (or: /msg ubotu dsl)
[04:08] <VictorFade> ok...
[04:09] <ogionnj> But netstat -are doesn't show a damn thing!
[04:09] <metrix> is there a gstreamer reconfiguration? is there a way if I can see if gstreamer is actually getting sound?
[04:09] <tristanmike> can we get an op in ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:10] <Xenguy> !ops
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[04:10] <Xenguy> tristanmike needs an op in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: paste your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere (i bet it uses hotplug scripts)
[04:11] <nalioth> Xenguy: taken care of
[04:11] <V4Vendetta> when i do sudo killall gtkpod
[04:11] <Xenguy> nalioth: tx
[04:11] <V4Vendetta> it doesn't get rid of it
[04:11] <V4Vendetta> if i open a new one it says the old one is running
[04:12] <metrix> the pid file may still be out there, or it's not being killed by kill.. try kill -9 pid first
[04:12] <ogionnj> I can't paste it.  No network.  But I see "mapping hotplug\n script grep\n map eth0"
[04:12] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: 'pkill' is another option (I find it seems to worth better sometimes than 'killall')
[04:13] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: s/worth/work/
[04:13] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: you could try adding auto eth0 right above iface eth0 inet dhcp, i've had to mess with it before... seems to me that i commented everything out though... and it's not like that atm. still, the line is there.
[04:14] <ogionnj> There's already auto eth0 at the end of the file
[04:15] <Racer5> I have a mount point created in /mnt.  If i access it as root I can write to it, but my regular account can not.  How do I set it so I can write to that mount point?
[04:16] <kzc> well... ppl... thx for all. at least now i know where to focus. :d that's good...
[04:16] <kzc> bye all
[04:16] <Xenguy> kzc: good luck
[04:17] <packman_e> hello all
[04:17] <paradizelost> Hey all.  i'm trying to get squirrelmail loaded on breezy
[04:17] <kzc> Xenguy: thx Arafangion: thx
[04:17] <Gau> :(
[04:17] <paradizelost> how do i access it?
[04:17] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: no idea then. you say your gateway isn't configured though, so that's where the problem is i guess.
[04:18] <ubuntu> hello
[04:18] <ogionnj> Maybe.  I have to look at this interface file.  It's new to me.  I'm a redhat boy :)  At least until now.
[04:18] <ogionnj> Thanks for your help jetscreamer
[04:18] <vincenz> How do I disable the touchpad?
[04:18] <_jason> vincenz, easiest way is to do it in bios, that's how I do it
[04:19] <paradizelost> Can anyone help me w/ squirrelmail?
[04:19] <xreed> im a current windows user and want to know some reasons to switch to linux
[04:20] <Gau> Any Ubuntu PPC users here?
[04:20] <jetscreamer> ogionnj: it probably doesnt matter, but my auto eth0 line is about the iface one
[04:20] <vincenz> _jason: besides that?
[04:20] <Xenguy> xreed: do you like licenses, viruses, and spyware?
[04:20] <packman_e> i don't suppose anyone knows anything about video conversion.  basically i have converted a .avi file to .mpg (vcd compatible format) but any time i burn it to disc and play it, the film's audio and video drop out of sync part of the way through. does anyone have any ideas on what the problem is please
[04:22] <Xenguy> !windows
[04:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:22] <Xenguy> xreed: ^^
[04:23] <xreed> how do i talk to just one person
[04:23] <Arafangion> How the heck does one run <insert windows  proggie> on Qemu, without windows?
[04:24] <Xenguy> xreed: why talk to 1, when you can talk to 600-700? :-)
[04:24] <paradizelost> does anyone here know how to access squirrelmail once i've installed it?
[04:25] <Xenguy> Arafangion: heh, good point - xen doesn't even run d0ze (yet)
[04:25] <Arafangion> paradizelost: refer to /usr/share/doc
[04:26] <paradizelost> the stuff in /usr/share/doc is all standard squirrelmail info.
[04:26] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: is that movie directed by W. Bros. BTW?
[04:26] <paradizelost> i found the squirrelmail directory under /usr/share/squirrelmail, but i cannot find a way to access it through a web page.
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> Xenguy~ dunno, i think maybe
[04:27] <pab1> guys, what is a popular backup sw that will do incremental?
[04:27] <paradizelost> normally, when i install squirrelmail, in gentoo, it shows up under /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/
[04:27] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: I think I need to find out more :-)
[04:27] <Arafangion> pab1: tar
[04:28] <pab1> booo
[04:28] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: yep :-)
[04:28] <Arafangion> pab1: I personally wrote a set of scripts that uses cron, cp and rsync, but they are not in a state that can be given to other people.
[04:28] <wastrel> it has natalie portman
[04:28] <mikebot> can anyone here recommend a nice to-do list for ubuntu?
[04:29] <mikebot> simple but nice design?
[04:29] <pab1> hmmm
[04:29] <Arafangion> pab1: tar does work well - but it helps to not mix tar versions (ie, standardize on gnu tar)
[04:29] <Arafangion> pab1: And tar _does_ do incremental.
[04:29] <pab1> Arafangion: does rsync have a switch of some sort that will do incremental?
[04:30] <Arafangion> pab1: rsync is by definition incremental. It keeps two directories in sync.
[04:30] <Arafangion> pab1: Transferring the smallest amount required to bring them in sync.
[04:30] <pab1> Arafangion: its not working as incremental for me then :/   im just using "rysnc -av"
[04:30] <bz0b> anyone seen that new g2p
[04:31] <bz0b> if you like p2p, then g2p is even better, google to peer
[04:31] <Arafangion> pab1: I use cp -lpr to link files.  rsync will *unlike* before changing the file.
[04:31] <Xenguy> pab1: there are some (too many?) good backup options...
[04:31] <Arafangion> pab1: Thus, you have a number of incremental backups, but they magically appear to be "full" backups.
[04:31] <pab1> Arafangion: ya i know
[04:32] <Xenguy> pab1: rsnapshot is one that I've heard good things about
[04:32] <Arafangion> rsnapshot is probably very similar to my system.
[04:32] <pab1> Arafangion: i think im kinda looking for something that is used in a corporate setting  (Free though, of course)
[04:32] <Xenguy> pab1: I haven't tried it myself, as I still using my crappy homemade script (hey, diskspace is cheap :-)
[04:33] <pab1> Arafangion: hehe
[04:33] <Xenguy> pab1: if corporate, then perhaps bacula or amanda ?
[04:33] <Arafangion> pab1: tape drives and tar. ;)
[04:33] <pab1> hmmm
[04:34] <venox> hah
[04:34] <venox> where does this ubuntu livecd store my files?
[04:35] <venox> I've copied lots of mp3 from my other computer to this and I'm playing them from my home directory
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> Can I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?
[04:35] <venox> dude, this is crazy. it's more than 100mb of files.
[04:35] <pab1> I think im gonna toy with tar again
[04:35] <pab1> ill start simple
[04:35] <Reg|ster> some one know how to use ventrillo on ubuntu?
[04:35] <pab1> thanks Arafangion and Xenguy for the advice
[04:36] <Xenguy> pab1: apt-cache search backup
[04:36] <Xenguy> pab1: yw
[04:36] <tristanmike> Reg|ster, there is no native linux client yet, you may want to try Wine
[04:37] <tristanmike> Reg|ster, to get ventrillo to work that is
[04:37] <Reg|ster> tryed that but geting codex problem
[04:38] <ozzloy> i'm having trouble with sounds.  in gaim i can play sound in preferences, but it won't actually play when i get IMd
[04:38] <tristanmike> Reg|ster, use TeamSpeak?
[04:38] <rukuartic> ozzloy: Didja set it to beep you only if you're away?
[04:38] <Reg|ster> my guild is using ventrillo so will get boring talking to my self on teamspeak
[04:39] <Theron> How do I expand the desktop to my second monitor?
[04:39] <tristanmike> Reg|ster, lol, yeah, not native client yet, I'm pretty disapointed, same with xfire
[04:40] <tristanmike> *no
[04:40] <Reg|ster> havent it been linux slott on the ventrillo site for ages but just says under developent or some hitng
[04:40] <Reg|ster> something
[04:40] <rukuartic> Still looking for someone to help me find a good linux firewall...
[04:41] <Ven] n^> http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/ipw2200/
[04:41] <Ven] n^> which should i get?
[04:41] <Toma-> i just finished building my new PC, and it wont boot.... no warning beeps, no flashing lights, it powers up but wont boot. VGA card isnt coming on either
[04:41] <Ven] n^> im running on pentium m
[04:41] <Theron> rukuartic, guarddog - I think it uses iptables.. not sure though
[04:41] <Amaranth> Toma-: RAM or CPU
[04:42] <Toma-> Amaranth, CPU is brand new
[04:42] <rukuartic> Theron: Hmm?
[04:42] <bz0b> i am trying to burn a audio cd, with mp3 files, what would i have to do?
[04:42] <Amaranth> Toma-: pull the RAM, see if it beeps
[04:42] <Toma-> ok
[04:42] <Amaranth> Toma-: If it doesn't, the CPU or mobo is dead
[04:42] <vars> hey i installed kernal blah de bla -686   and i should have done -386   am i going to hell?
[04:42] <Amaranth> so?
[04:42] <bz0b> vars, what kind of processor
[04:42] <vars> have i just landed myself in a world of shi*t
[04:42] <bz0b> lol
[04:42] <Theron> Toma-, probably check too that all the cards are fully seated
[04:42] <Amaranth> vars: You don't have something newer than a pentium 2 or k6-2?
[04:42] <bz0b> i am trying to burn a audio cd, with mp3 files, what would i have to do?
[04:43] <vars> celeron, but i had -386 kernal installed
[04:43] <bz0b> do i need to convert the mp3's to wav format or something?
[04:43] <Theron> rukuartic, http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/
[04:43] <rukuartic> vars: take a look at /proc/cpuinfo
[04:43] <rukuartic> Theron: Oh, thanks :P I thought you were talking to someone named guarddog
[04:43] <Toma-> no beeping when ram is out.... CPU and mobo are brand spanking new
[04:43] <Theron> rukuartic, no prob.. :)
[04:44] <vars> i am trying to install a gforce 5500 and i am having a hellof a time
[04:44] <Theron> Toma-, are all the pci cards, ide cables etc. seated fully?
[04:44] <Toma-> ill triple check.
[04:44] <vars> i followed the !nvidia
[04:44] <rukuartic> Toma-: Suggestion, don't know if it'll help. Yank what you don't need. (Graphics, Sound, Network?)
[04:45] <Gau> Can someone tell me how to mount a hard drive under Ubuntu?
[04:45] <neoginn1> hello all
[04:45] <rukuartic> !mount
[04:45] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:45] <Theron> Toma-, check too that you didn't crack the mobo or ram
[04:45] <RedRose> what is the Defacto for IRC servers?
[04:45] <RedRose> what is the recommended irc server?
[04:45] <rukuartic> RedRose: I think this is it, at least thats the one it said in xIRC :P
[04:45] <neoginn1> can someone tell me how i can get a team together to help me build a fitness database?
[04:46] <XiCillin> that upgrade-manager that people are testing now, should it show you can upgrade to Dapper now?
[04:46] <XiCillin> or will it tell you on the 20th?
[04:46] <Theron> How do I expand the desktop to my second monitor?  I have tried googling too.
[04:46] <ozzloy> rukuartic: i got it working now, thanks
[04:46] <rukuartic> ozzloy: Good job :) No problem
[04:46] <rukuartic> ozzloy: Took me weeks XD
[04:47] <RedRose> what is the Defacto for IRC servers? i'm looking to run my own IRC server...
[04:47] <Theron> I think it probably has something to do with my xorg.conf file.. but I have made all the appropriate edits afaik
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> Theron: (caveat: never done that)  I've seen that before, and I know there are two major tools for it.  One is better than the other.  One is xinerama.  I don't know which of the two that is.  Hopefully someone can tell you the second...
[04:48] <Theron> ty tonyyarusso
[04:48] <ozzloy> rukuartic: hehe
[04:48] <Amaranth> !dualhead
[04:48] <ubotu> Amaranth: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:48] <Amaranth> dang
[04:48] <Aaron_Mason> !wine
[04:49] <Theron> lol
[04:49] <lali_> anyone help  me with a samba related question ?
[04:49] <Theron> I'll get er done somehow
[04:49] <Aaron_Mason> Does anybody here know how to trick wine into thinking its W2K?
[04:49] <Aaron_Mason> I'm trying to run PEBuilder
[04:49] <lali_> i have smb hooked up to a windows machine and i wanted to put a file on the windows machine
[04:49] <lali_> i type "put /blah/blah"
[04:49] <lali_> says file does not exist
[04:49] <cafuego> !listvals xinerama
[04:49] <Ven] n^> difference between noarch and src?
[04:49] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'xinerama' by value (1 shown): xinerama.
[04:49] <XiCillin> or will it tell you on the 20th?
[04:49] <XiCillin> that upgrade-manager that people are testing now, should it show you can upgrade to Dapper now?
[04:49] <Toma-> Ok. taking it to the PC shop. i dont wanna toast anything :(
[04:49] <cafuego> !xinerama
[04:49] <ubotu> hmm... xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[04:50] <KenMasters> hello
[04:50] <cafuego> Amaranth: There ya go.
[04:50] <cafuego> !listvals mergedfb
[04:50] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Anyone familiar with a Sun Netra T1 105??
[04:50] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'mergedfb' by value returned no results.
[04:50] <cafuego> !listvals mergefb
[04:50] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'mergefb' by value returned no results.
[04:50] <KenMasters> command talk is no run ... what happend
[04:50] <Aaron_Mason> got it, nm
[04:50] <KenMasters> msg "Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused. Press any key."
[04:51] <neoginn1> anyone try installing DB2 or oracle successfully on ubuntu? becuase if you have can someone tell me where i can find a tutorial on that.
[04:51] <Theron> lali_, try this site: http://www.transgaming.com/
[04:51] <lali_> ok
[04:51] <lali_> thanks man
[04:52] <Theron> np
[04:52] <lali_> but isnt that for games ?
[04:52] <ozzloy> i have some quiet wav files, how do i make them louder?
[04:52] <ozzloy> i remember there being a command line utility to do this
[04:52] <tristanmike> lali_, yeah
[04:52] <Theron> well, I think it has some options for letting you choose which windows flavor to use lol
[04:53] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Anyone familiar with a Sun Netra T1 105??
[04:53] <neoginn1> no
[04:53] <Theron> crossover office might work too, lali_
[04:53] <rukuartic> Can anyone link me to some resources about securing down my computer?
[04:53] <lali_> lol
[04:53] <lali_> theron bro thats not my question lol
[04:53] <lali_> my question was with samba
[04:53] <lali_> have you used samba before ?
[04:54] <Theron> lali_, I have.  forgive me for being lame
[04:54] <Amaranth> rukuartic: ubuntu defaults to no ports open to the outside world
[04:54] <Theron> :|
[04:54] <lali_> it sok bro
[04:54] <Amaranth> rukuartic: nothing left to secure
[04:54] <lali_> hrm.. do u know how to
[04:54] <lali_> put files ?
[04:54] <Theron> no
[04:54] <rukuartic> Amaranth: How do ports open then?
[04:54] <lali_> onto a windows directory ?
[04:55] <rukuartic> Amaranth: Eg: Running apache/hlds/ssh
[04:55] <Amaranth> rukuartic: you install server software
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Grr.  Network manager doesn't do so hot with trying to switch from ethernet to wireless connection seamlessly.
[04:55] <Amaranth> rukuartic: those are open when they're running
[04:55] <vars> !nvidia
[04:55] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:55] <Amaranth> rukuartic: but a default desktop doesn't have those
[04:55] <KenMasters> !talk
[04:55] <ubotu> KenMasters: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <Theron> maybe.. copy/paste?  isn't it writeable lali_ ?
[04:55] <mattwestm> is there any way to not let a user view any files except his home dir?
[04:55] <rukuartic> Amaranth: What do you think would be the biggest/most common mistake to make when starting otu with your first server?
[04:55] <Amaranth> mattwestm: not really
[04:56] <Amaranth> mattwestm: you can make it so they can't view other users files
[04:56] <mattwestm> Amaranth: I am trying to make my ftp more securt
[04:56] <cafuego> rukuartic: webmin
[04:56] <mattwestm> secure*
[04:56] <Amaranth> rukuartic: changing the defaults without understanding them
[04:56] <rukuartic> cafuego: I thought it was that config thing that nobody likes... XD
[04:56] <rukuartic> Amaranth: :)
[04:57] <cafuego> rukuartic: Well, nobody runs redhat ;-)
[04:57] <Amaranth> mattwestm: ftp is different, you can make it so they can't go higher than their $HOME
[04:57] <Amaranth> mattwestm: but ftp itself is insecure
[04:57] <mattwestm> Amaranth: where do I change that $HOME?
[04:57] <Amaranth> mattwestm: depends on the ftp server
[04:57] <pab1> anyone have experience using dump?
[04:57] <mattwestm> vsftpd
[04:57] <Amaranth> mattwestm: i don't know how to do it with any of them
[04:57] <Amaranth> i use ssh/sftp, much more secure
[04:58] <tallmf> hey guys-how can I unmount my IPOD in Ubuntu when I want to remove it from the dock?
[04:58] <mattwestm> I may try that
[04:58] <tallmf> this is really annoying
[04:58] <Amaranth> mattwestm: with that they'll be able to see other dirs and files
[04:58] <Amaranth> mattwestm: but they can't change them
[04:58] <jbroome> tallmf: right click on the icon, unmount
[04:58] <tallmf> it says I dont have permission because Im not the root
[04:58] <rukuartic> jbroome: that is if you're in gnome
[04:58] <Amaranth> mattwestm: and chmod 701 /home/<user> makes it so no one can get a file listing of that dir
[04:58] <jbroome> doh
[04:59] <rukuartic> jbroome: sudo unmount maybe?
[04:59] <tallmf> jbroome, umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda2 from /media/sda2
[04:59] <tallmf> eject: unmount of `/media/sda2' failed
[04:59] <Amaranth> mattwestm: but allows apache to access /home/<user>/public_html so websites still work
[05:00] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I am trying to boot the live CD on my Acer Travelmate 3000 and it continues to freeze when it searches for CD Drives. Any ideas?
[05:00] <logical_mark> To add to what I said, I am using a firewire CD Drive
[05:00] <rukuartic> logical_mark: How do you mean? It freezes at boot, during boot, or while you're in ubuntu?
[05:02] <logical_mark> rukuartic, I never get into Ubuntu. It gets passed where it says "uncompressing kernal" and then it asks for the language and crap. Then it freezes saying "No common CD-ROM was detected"
[05:02] <AngryElf> I have an 8x dvdr (i forgot what the cdr speed is) and it's currently burning a cd at 8x even tho i set cdrecord speed=12, why is it burning so slow??
[05:02] <khafra> My mouse randomly stops responding, but only in x, not when playing a game.
[05:02] <khafra> I have to unplug and replug it to make it work
[05:02] <rukuartic> logical_mark: no using internal drives?
[05:03] <logical_mark> rukuartic, I wish. My laptop is an ultraportable so all I can use are external. And it came with an external firewire cd burner which is what I am using
[05:03] <Theron> !xinerama
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[05:04] <rukuartic> logical_mark: Eh... The only thing I can think of is going into the BIOS and making sure you have things set up right...
[05:04] <rukuartic> logical_mark: I just throw out random suggestions that usually don't work T_T I need to learn more before I start talking.
[05:05] <logical_mark> rukuartic, thanks anyway
[05:05] <rukuartic> logical_mark: Good luck getting it runnin'... Try USB drives maybe...
[05:05] <khafra> What about me?  Don't I even get wished good luck, let alone advised?
[05:06] <rukuartic> khafra: Thats becuase my cookies just got out of the oven and you get the first steaming hot one.
[05:06] <rukuartic> wftp khafra /dev/oven/cookie1
[05:07] <logical_mark> Ok guys I have a question. The wireless card on my laptop is not detected by Ubuntu so I was going to use ndiswrapper to install the driver using my windows .inf file, but when I look at the properties of the wireless card in windows under the dirver info it just has a .sys file. What do I do?
[05:07] <anto9us> logical_mark, copy the entire folder containing the .inf and .sys files to your linux partition and use ndiswrapper to load the .inf file
[05:08] <Gau> I wish this computer had a pointing device, especially since it's running Windows XP
[05:08] <logical_mark> anto9us, so I just need to copy the entire folder that has the .sys file?
[05:08] <rukuartic> logical_mark: There's something on the wiki that'll help you find your driver... A lot of drivers that came with cards have drivers that work not so well in linux...
[05:08] <anto9us> logical_mark, yes, the inf file tells ndiswrapper to use the sys file
[05:08] <Solefald> hello all.. are there pre-packaged SMP kernels? i mean i dont mind building one myself, but i am surprised to see absense of smp enabled kernel in Dapper
[05:09] <anto9us> Solefald, they're in the repositories, yes
[05:09] <Solefald> hm... really? i did not see it at all
[05:09] <bimberi> Solefald: linux-686-smp and linux-k7-smp
[05:10] <Solefald> oh.. i was looking for linux-image-2.6.15 blah
[05:10] <Solefald> thanks
[05:10] <bimberi> Solefald: np, btw linux-image-... should come in as dependencies of those
[05:10] <Solefald> but now i cant get to that box because sshd is not installed by default :(
[05:11] <bimberi> Solefald: yep, ubuntu installs with no external listening ports
[05:11] <mattwestm> what user is in use when you go on an apache website?
[05:11] <Solefald> bummer.
[05:12] <Solefald> mattwestm: shoudl be nobody/nogroup if you compile by hand
[05:12] <Aaron_Mason> !bochs
[05:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason
[05:12] <Aaron_Mason> !listvals bochs
[05:12] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'bochs' by value returned no results.
[05:12] <Aaron_Mason> what ubuntu package would I need for Bochs sdl support?
[05:12] <mattwestm> Solefald: I used apt-get to install apache2
[05:12] <bimberi> Solefald: www-data on ubuntu
[05:13] <Solefald> mattwestm: ah. dont know... i always compile apache
[05:13] <Aaron_Mason> nm, i saw it :(
[05:13] <bimberi> oops, mattwestm ^^^^ (sorry Solefald)
[05:14] <rukuartic> Is anyone else using Linux in a completely console environment?
[05:15] <anto9us> rukuartic, I know some that do
[05:15] <Solefald> this is the first time i installed ubuntu actually. ive been running debian for years, but i got this new job and have to use Exchange but evolution-exchange is jacked in sid.
[05:15] <emacsen> Anyone know what I need to get /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
[05:15] <kditty> my linux installed OS isnt working correct, and im on ubuntu live cd, the other os is ubuntu 5.10 and i need to know if there is a way to grab a file from the desk top of that HD partition from this live cd. can anyone help me?
[05:15] <rukuartic> anto9us: Can ya reccomend any programs that'd make life a little easier?
[05:15] <Solefald> emacsen: usb support
[05:16] <anto9us> rukuartic, read up on screen
[05:16] <kditty> i need some information about my network settings there, and i couldnt get them to a cd or floppy to transfer over live cd
[05:16] <emacsen> Solefald: specifically what?
[05:16] <rukuartic> anto9us: Usin' that XD
[05:16] <Solefald> emacsen: it depends on what you are trying to do. plus you need /proc filesystem support enabled in the kernel
[05:16] <emacsen> Solefald: well I'm using the Ubuntu kernel
[05:17] <anto9us> rukuartic, join #ubuntu-offtopic and seek out Razor-X, he never shuts up about his console
[05:17] <emacsen> Solefald: so assume I've touched nothing
[05:17] <Solefald> emacsen: do you have anything in /proc at all?
[05:17] <rukuartic> anto9us: Bwaahaha thanks!
[05:17] <emacsen> Solefald: yes, just not the devices file in bus/usb
[05:17] <kditty> not to mention i dont know how to gain root access, which is keeping me from writign files to portable media for transfer
[05:17] <rukuartic> anto9us: I think I've found my best friend there...
[05:17] <Solefald> emacsen: does /proc/bus/usb exist?
[05:18] <emacsen> Solefald: yes, it's empty
[05:18] <bimberi> Solefald: i've just been checking and you are right, no smp kernels in dapper (yet), linux-686-smp depends on linux-image-686.  Definitely there in breezy though, and dapper when it releases.
[05:18] <bimberi> Solefald: (April 20)
[05:18] <Solefald> bimberi: thanks. ill just complie my own tomorrow. i need to unload some of that stuff anyway :)
[05:19] <newtoubuntu> Can anyone recomend a p2p program for ubuntu
[05:19] <Solefald> emacsen: so do you have any USB devices plugged in?
[05:19] <emacsen> Solefald: yes. I'm trying to get information about it
[05:19] <emacsen> specifically the vendor and device id
[05:20] <Solefald> emacsen: if you have hald/dbus installed ubuntu should find them and load the drivers on its own
[05:20] <newtoubuntu> any body know of one (a p2p program)
[05:20] <ithicine> new2ubuntu: download and install automatix.  It offers two handy p2p apps: aMule and Azeurus, off the top of my head
[05:20] <vars> hey how do i test my graphics card?
[05:20] <vars> glx-gears?
[05:20] <Solefald> vars: plug a monitor into it.
[05:20] <newtoubuntu> ithicine: oh cool thanx
[05:20] <emacsen> Solefald: well let's assume it didn't. Do you actually know or are you thinking I'm dumb and going through the baby steps?
[05:20] <vars> yeah it worksthen
[05:21] <vars> i am having a hellof a time getting an invida installed, should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[05:21] <vars> --- my distro is a littel f**** anyway
[05:21] <tristanmike> newtoubuntu, don't install automatix
[05:21] <Solefald> emacsen: lol. no.. but you can try to "modprobe usb<tab>"
[05:21] <newtoubuntu> oh why not?
[05:21] <tristanmike> !tell newtoubuntu about automatix
[05:21] <tristanmike> !automatix
[05:21] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:22] <emacsen> Solefald: okay, why didn't you just say "I don't know anything more than you, but I'll happily waste your time..."
[05:22] <emacsen> Solefald: sometimes not helping is more helpful than leading someone down a path that you don't know
[05:22] <ithicine> ubotu: sure it's unsafe.  For people who know to care... for a newbie I'd say it's fine, though
[05:22] <ubotu> ithicine: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:23] <newtoubuntu> ok sure man, I was this close to double clicking the link
[05:23] <anto9us> emacsen, lsusb will list connected usb devices
[05:23] <tristanmike> "for people who know to care" ? what does that mean?
[05:24] <newtoubuntu> yea I know??
[05:24] <shiv> this is my directory where my yahoo messenger is for Wine. Now how do I start it?
[05:24] <shiv> /home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger
[05:24] <Solefald> heh... the thing is that i know a little more than this guy... at least i dont know on irc to ask how to get /proc/bus/usb/devices file. lol
[05:24] <ithicine> tristanmike: people new to Ubuntu (or Linux, or anything for that matter) are generally not ready to worry about things like configuration files
[05:24] <tristanmike> newtoubuntu, there are many p2p apps, what in particular are you looking for?
[05:24] <Solefald> whatever. im out
[05:25] <tristanmike> ithicine, what :?
[05:25] <newtoubuntu> tristanike: anything that combines networks, and is simeple (gUI)
[05:25] <tristanmike> ithicine, all the more reason not to put them in a position that will send them here saying "I used automatix, now my box is borked"
[05:26] <newtoubuntu> right, hey, just simple suff you know.
[05:26] <Theron> !xinerama
[05:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[05:26] <ithicine> tristanmike: I've yet to see automatix break anything.  Sure it's a kludge, and it does some ugly things, it certainly won't break a new system
[05:27] <Theron> where do I send feedback about ubotu?
[05:27] <tristanmike> ithicine, well, if you haven't seen anything then I can't say anything, my experience here has been quite different
[05:27] <Theron> !feedback
[05:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Theron
[05:27] <Amaranth> !owner
[05:27] <ubotu> Amaranth: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:27] <Amaranth> bleh
[05:27] <Amaranth> anyway, cafuego
[05:27] <tjs> what do people use to capture video of their xsession?
[05:27] <tjs> how do people make screencasts under linux?
[05:27] <ithicine> tristanmike: which version(s) of automatix?  which Ubuntu?  never heard of this before
[05:28] <Amaranth> tjs: vnc2swf is popular
[05:28] <tjs> ooh
[05:28] <bimberi> !who's your daddy
[05:28] <ubotu> cafuego
[05:28] <newtoubuntu> So is someone going to recomend somthing
[05:28] <tristanmike> ithicine, breezy, alot of java problems
[05:28] <tristanmike> newtoubuntu, limewire?
[05:28] <billdbaggins> how can i install gcc-3.4 on 5.10
[05:28] <kditty> my ubuntu iso file was labeled 6.10
[05:28] <kditty> is that possible?
[05:28] <bimberi> billdbaggins: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4
[05:28] <ithicine> billdbaggins: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:28] <tristanmike> billdbaggins, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:28] <newtoubuntu> yea, I know, but it only runs one network, does shareaza work on Linux
[05:29] <tristanmike> newtoubuntu, not sure, sorry
[05:29] <Amaranth> newtoubuntu: get giFToxic
[05:29] <newtoubuntu> Is GiFToxic good?
[05:29] <ithicine> tristanmike: odd.  I've used it on a few systems and it never gave me trouble.
[05:29] <billdbaggins> admin@inspiron6000u:/tmp/wifi/ieee80211-1.1.12$ sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:29] <billdbaggins> Reading package lists... Done
[05:29] <billdbaggins> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:29] <billdbaggins> E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4
[05:30] <newtoubuntu> why is GiFToxic Good
[05:30] <Theron> anyways, using !xinerama worked, using twinview for nvidia.. had to add resolution 2 times, no wonder 2nd monitor was blank.
[05:30] <tristanmike> ithicine, it's not absolutely horrible, great idea, and in the right direction. check out this comparison http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[05:30] <Amaranth> newtoubuntu: it uses giFT, which can connect to OpenFT, Gnutella, Ares, and FastTrack (kazaa)
[05:30] <bimberi> billdbaggins: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[05:30] <newtoubuntu> Oh awsome cool
[05:30] <bimberi> !tell billdbaggins about pastebin
[05:31] <ithicine> billdbaggins: try http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:31] <ithicine> billdbaggins: then follow the previous instructions on installing gcc-3.4
[05:32] <Installer36> Theron > is that for veiwing the same picture split into two monitors?
[05:33] <Theron> Installer36, sure is :)
[05:33] <ithicine> tristanmike: thanks, never even heard of EasyUbuntu... I'll check out more
[05:33] <Installer36> Someone was just telling me about that ..found it interesting
[05:33] <tristanmike> ithicine, no problem :)
[05:33] <nalioth> billdbaggins: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin
[05:34] <Theron> Installer36, yeah.  It's in Section "Device" where the resolution needs to be there 2 times
[05:35] <Installer36> Do the monitors have to be the smae make and model?
[05:35] <Theron> nope
[05:35] <Installer36> I think I have a new project to try .
[05:36] <Installer36> Thanks
[05:36] <Theron> you're welcome
[05:36] <Theron> anyone know if aol and linux play nice together?
[05:36] <mlanza> pardon, the interruption... newbie here, may I ask a quick question?
[05:36] <Theron> no
[05:36] <Theron> yes
[05:36] <mlanza> ok...
[05:37] <Theron> of course you can, just don't ask to ask
[05:37] <Theron> just ask :)
[05:37] <Amaranth> Theron: there is pengu but basically no
[05:37] <mlanza> I created a dual boot Windows 2000 / Ubuntu Linux machine.  I want to change GRUB's menu.lst file but cannot...
[05:37] <mlanza> is there an easy way to overcome the "read only" permission...
[05:37] <Theron> mlanza,  what happens when you try?
[05:37] <Theron> ooh, sudo man, sudo
[05:38] <mlanza> I cannot find out how to logon as "root" but I read I should NEVER do this.
[05:38] <frank23> I want to change my home directory location,   will  sudo cp -R /home /newlocation   work? then I change the mount point for /home
[05:38] <mlanza> I am in Ubuntu now, and I cannot change the menu.lst file (READONLY).
[05:38] <Theron> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:38] <mlanza> It says I am not the owner, "root" is.
[05:38] <Theron> right
[05:38] <anto9us> !tell mlanza about sudo
[05:38] <mlanza> I assume that's a shell command?
[05:39] <mlanza> Where do I enter this?
[05:39] <Theron> yes, open your terminal
[05:39] <Theron> applications, accessories, terminal
[05:39] <Theron> !sudo
[05:39] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:40] <mlanza> That did it, so far... wait a sec.
[05:40] <mlanza> OK, got it -- Thanks! -- one more question...
[05:41] <mlanza> Any books you recommend for a Linux (Ubuntu) newbie?
[05:41] <Theron> no
[05:41] <mlanza> ok, well thanks!
[05:42] <tristanmike> mlanza, check out linuxcommand.org
[05:42] <Theron> not really, just google alot
[05:42] <wiccidnu> man pages
[05:43] <ithicine> mlanza: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[05:43] <frank23> anyone? I want to change my home directory location,   will  sudo cp -R /home /newlocation   work? then I change the mount point for /home
[05:43] <homer9> all you... ubuntu user... what is the best security model to run ubuntu... as secure as possible./
[05:43] <chuckyp> wow irssi is cool.
[05:44] <chuckyp> need to get terminal to display at 800x600 now though.
[05:44] <highvoltage> irssi++
[05:44] <Amaranth> frank23: no, /home is 'special'
[05:44] <highvoltage> chuckyp: you mean you're running it in a virtual terminal?
[05:44] <chuckyp> highvoltage: ctrl+alt # etc.... all in low res.
[05:45] <wiccidnu> anyone get digital optical sound from nf7-s motherboard working in ubuntu?
[05:45] <ithicine> frank23: it'd be helpful to know why you're trying to change your home directory location... unless you mean to move it between partitions or hard discs, I wouldn't do anything
[05:45] <frank23> Amaranth: how do I copy files while preserving the owners and permissions?
[05:45] <frank23> I want to change the hard disk /home is on
[05:45] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to change the resolution in terminal?
[05:45] <chuckyp> highvoltage: do you know what I mean.
[05:46] <Theron> !backup
[05:46] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[05:46] <Theron> frank23, try that
[05:46] <ithicine> frank23: ahhhh.  Is it already on a different disc than your root directory, or are you trying to move it to a new one you added?
[05:47] <frank23> ithicine: its already on a different partition than the root directory, I want to move it to yet another partition which is much bigger
[05:48] <ithicine> ah, okay.  do you have the larger partition already mounted?
[05:48] <frank23> ithicine: yes
[05:51] <ithicine> frank23: cp -Rp /home/* <destination>
[05:52] <frank23> ithicine: ok.  can I unmount home while logged in? how can I do the switch?
[05:52] <ithicine> frank23: sorry, stop that.  Forgot something
[05:52] <frank23> ithicine: haven't done anything yet ;)
[05:53] <ithicine> frank23: good :)
[05:53] <ithicine> frank23: cd /home
[05:53] <ithicine> frank23: find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/
[05:54] <ithicine> frank23: those commands should properly copy everything
[05:54] <nadia007> good evenin!
[05:54] <frank23> ithicine: where did that come from?
[05:55] <logical_mark> Hey does anyone here know how to get the Logitech Fusion webcam to work. PLEASE.
[05:55] <nadia007> anyone here successfully configured their wireless to authenticate with WEP?
[05:55] <frank23> ithicine: and how do I exclude lost+found ? does that matter?
[05:55] <ithicine> frank23: your home directory probably contains all sorts of special goodies like hard links, soft links, and all sorts of other stuff
[05:55] <Healot> !webcam
[05:55] <ubotu> it has been said that webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[05:55] <ithicine> frank23: lost+found shouldn'
[05:55] <ithicine> t matter
[05:55] <Healot> there you go... logical_mark
[05:55] <shiv> I just installed wine. I am a newbie. I also installed yahoo messenger just to try it. Now how do i RUN IT? i HAVE NO CLUE. Plz help...
[05:56] <logical_mark> Healot, we will see- LOL
[05:56] <cello_rasp> wine /path/to/program/exe
[05:56] <nadia007> !wifi
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:56] <Healot> what you're laughing about, that's really your thing to figure out :)
[05:56] <frank23> ithicine: ok. did you come up with that command yourself? or where did you find it?
[05:56] <ithicine> frank23: that weird command I wrote out will copy everything just as it is
[05:57] <nadia007> ubotu... been there done all that... got wireless to work on networks not using any type of encryption.
[05:57] <Psykus> is there any way to disable the system beep and make it play a sound effect through the sound card instead?
[05:57] <ithicine> frank23: I moved my home to new partition myself an age and a half ago
[05:57] <narzy> what do I have to do to get ssh on my ubuntu box?
[05:57] <nadia007> just the encryption that I'm having a really hard time!
[05:57] <narzy> I done forgot the command
[05:57] <chuckyp> Okay how do you change the resolution in virutal consoles?
[05:57] <narzy> I know it's an apt thing...
[05:57] <nadia007> narzy, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:57] <Xenguy> narzy: apt-get install ssh
[05:57] <narzy> for some reason I thought it was openssh
[05:58] <narzy> LOL
[05:58] <narzy> that would do it.
[05:58] <ithicine> frank23: make sure to change /mnt/newhome to whereever you have your new home mounted
[05:58] <fade_> !helpme vi: how to save file
[05:58] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fade_
[05:59] <ithicine> frank23: after that last command completes, make sure everything moved okay.  Just take a look and all that
[05:59] <Healot> the key sequence is ':wq'
[05:59] <jbeagley> Does adept keep a log?
[05:59] <chuckyp> fade_: hit esc then hit : then type a wq
[05:59] <ithicine> frank23: now did you say your current home is on its own partition to begin with?
[05:59] <fade_> thanks
[06:00] <shiv> what is wrong here?
[06:00] <frank23> ithicine: no I'll just blame you when I realise I somehow lost everything ;)   yes /home is already on its own partition
[06:00] <shiv> shiv@ubuntu:~$ wine /home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe
[06:00] <shiv> bash: !/Messenger/ypager.exe: event not found
[06:00] <Xenguy> fade_: or ZZ
[06:00] <nadia007> fade, fyi w=write, q=quit... in future if you just want to quit with out saving changes.. just 'q'
[06:00] <nadia007> fade, other editor that's pretty cool is nano!
[06:00] <cello_rasp> wine "/home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe"
[06:01] <nadia007> anyone running wireless card?
[06:01] <Xenguy> nadia007: vim is cool; nano/pico is functional :-)
[06:01] <Healot> ':!q' to quit without saving changes
[06:01] <ithicine> frank23: haha :P  Next unount your *new* home partition, and reboot into recovery mode.  Ugly, I know, but it's the first thing off the top of my head guaranteed to work
[06:02] <nadia007> xenguy: lol, like everything in linux...  it's all about preference!!  ;)
[06:02] <cello_rasp> vi is for boring people that can stand to memorise all those annoying, user-unfriendly command modifiers
[06:02] <shiv> cello_rasp: same thing ...:( shiv@ubuntu:~$ wine "/home/shiv/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger/ypager.exe"
[06:02] <shiv> bash: !/Messenger/ypager.exe": event not found
[06:02] <ithicine> errrr... frank23: no!  Easier way
[06:02] <Xenguy> nadia007: sure, though some editors are clearly more powerful than others
[06:02] <cello_rasp> rename Yahoo! to Yahoo
[06:02] <ithicine> frank23: sorry, it's late here.  haha
[06:02] <newtoubuntu> Hey, my problem is that terminal won't let me type in my password.  It realy stinks!
[06:02] <jbeagley> does adept keep a log file?
[06:02] <frank23> ithicine: can't I change to single user run level or something
[06:03] <cello_rasp> shit: OR, use ../Yahoo\!/..
[06:03] <cello_rasp> *shiv*
[06:03] <nadia007> jbeagley, if it does, it might be in /var/log
[06:03] <ithicine> frank23: once everything is copied just edit /etc/fstab to point your home directory mount to the correct partition
[06:03] <jbeagley> thanks, nadia007
[06:03] <shiv> ya
[06:03] <newtoubuntu> I realy need help about this
[06:04] <Xenguy> newtoubuntu: be specific
[06:04] <newtoubuntu> The terminal wont let me enter my password
[06:04] <nadia007> newtoubuntu, elaborate a little!
[06:04] <billdbaggins> newtoubuntu, type it in and hit enter
[06:04] <shiv> cello_rasp: plz see pastebin
[06:04] <highvolt1ge> newtoubuntu: it doesn't show the password while you type (for security reasons)
[06:04] <nadia007> newto, you mean you can't see your characters on the screen?  This is normal!
[06:04] <slindsay> Hello all, I'm running Breezy on an older Dell Latitude CPi A-series laptop, and I'm having trouble with the sound card module.  It's a NeoMagic NM2200 (MM 256AV) card.  I'm using the module "snd_nm256," and about 60-70% of the time I modprobe it, the computer hangs completely when it tries to map the memory on port 1.  If it doesn't hang, the sound works perfectly.  Any suggestions?
[06:04] <highvolt1ge> newtoubuntu: (or the length, in stars, for that matter)
[06:04] <newtoubuntu> Oh realy, that's confusing
[06:04] <highvolt1ge> newtoubuntu: you'll get used to it :)
[06:05] <billdbaggins> newtoubuntu, its for hax0r
[06:05] <newtoubuntu> thanx, man, I was trying to hit enter and type my password realy fast
[06:05] <cello_rasp> shiv: url?
[06:05] <nadia007> newtoubuntu, security reasons...  no biggy.
[06:05] <ithicine> frank23: then just drop into single user, umount /home, mount /home, and deal with your old home partition as you wish
[06:05] <shiv> hi
[06:05] <shiv> j #pastebin
[06:06] <newtoubuntu> I'm used to windows, so yea
[06:06] <frank23> ithicine: I don't remember how to change to single user. can you remind me?
[06:06] <ithicine> frank23: feel free to do whatever after your new home device is mounted.  haha
[06:06] <nadia007> slindsay, checked irq?
[06:06] <logical_mark> Healot, turns out that the program Ubotu reccomended handles EVERY webcam EXCEPT like 4, and one of those 4 is mine
[06:07] <nadia007> logical_mark, lol...  just your luck!!
[06:07] <slindsay> nadia007, it's using IRQ 5, according to what modprobe spits out before crashing.
[06:07] <Healot> hehe, you bought the wrong hardward then, logical_mark
[06:07] <ithicine> frank23: ehhh... I'm thinking init 1
[06:07] <ithicine> frank23: lemme doublecheck
[06:08] <nadia007> slindsay, anything else using that irq?
[06:08] <shiv> then how do I run a simple program?
[06:08] <ithicine> frank23: yeah, that's what I thought.  Obviously has to be sudo, though
[06:08] <nadia007> slindsay, perhaps pc card that is conflicting?
[06:08] <frank23> ithicine: init 1 ok
[06:08] <jariep1_> hi all
[06:09] <nadia007> slindsay, just sounds weird that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  You have the drivers loading up when boot?
[06:09] <slindsay> nadia007, I just looked at everything in the "lspci -v" output and I don't see any other cards on IRQ 5
[06:09] <jariep1_> was wondering if anybody has tried installing Reiser4 file system on ubuntu?
[06:09] <Healot> then, it really the driver... maybe it's buggy... slindsay
[06:09] <Psykus> is there any way to disable the system speaker beep and make it play a sound effect through the sound card instead?
[06:10] <slindsay> nadia007, healot:  I'd found some stuff via google about problems with the driver, but nothing conclusive.
[06:10] <Healot> then it is buggy...
[06:10] <nadia007> slindsay, tough to help... never really ran into that sort of prob.
[06:10] <Healot> slindsay, what kernel version are you using now?
[06:10] <slindsay> nadia007, I originally was loading the drivers at boot, but got tried of it hanging all the time, so I blacklisted snd_nm256
[06:10] <Healot> maybe a time for upgrade?
[06:11] <ithicine> frank23: when you're done in runlevel 1, just init 2 to get back to multiuser
[06:11] <skeegan> Psykus, maybe try turning off the pc speaker through the mixer
[06:11] <nadia007> slindsay, so what did you do to make the card work?  When you loaded the drivers manually?
[06:11] <Psykus> says its already muted
[06:12] <slindsay> I'm running 2.6.12
[06:12] <Healot> upgrade slindsay, I would say
[06:12] <Healot> or is there any form of the driver source outh there? try that could bring some change...
[06:12] <slindsay> nadia007:  to get it running manually all I had to do was run "modprobe snd_nm256".  If it worked (i.e. didn't crash out), the sound works great.
[06:13] <slindsay> Healot, always good advice. :)
[06:14] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to install a program which requires gtk+2.0. I looked in Synaptic and it shows gtk+2.0 as being installed, however, when I try to compile the program, it says gtk+2.0 is missing. What can I do to solve this problem?
[06:14] <slindsay> Healot, yeah, I think I'm stuck with trying to hack on the driver source a bit.
[06:14] <slindsay> healot, which should be fun and enlightening. :)
[06:14] <ithicine> firebird619: you need the development libraries
[06:15] <Healot> firebird619, you need "libgtk2*dev" -- for development...
[06:15] <thewayofzen> As far as memory use is concerned.. should i use the info in   " top " as an indication of what resources im using RAM WISE for my system.. or should i go by  System -> Administration  -> System Monitor -> Resources..  which is FAR more generous
[06:15] <Healot> the libgtk that is isntalled is the runtime...
[06:15] <logical_mark> Healot,  I don't think linux should determine which hardware I buy. An os should not limit you to that
[06:15] <Healot> slindsay, i had time with my gigabit ethernet before...
[06:16] <wastrel> logical_mark:  it's not linux that's limiting you, it's the hardware manufacturer, for failing to supply a linux driver
[06:16] <Healot> logical_mark, it shouldn't, but manufacturers aren't always cooperative//
[06:16] <frank23> ithicine: I had to get a root shell (sudo su) for your command to work. maybe  cpio needs its own sudo?
[06:16] <ithicine> frank23: sudo bash then do it from there
[06:16] <firebird619> Healot: How it is listed in Synaptic? I did a search in Synaptic for libgtk2-devel and it didn't find it.
[06:16] <frank23> ithicine: yeah its working now
[06:17] <Healot> firebird619, you're from REdhat world eh?
[06:17] <sinaduel> how do I convert mid files to wav?
[06:17] <Healot> just "dev", sir
[06:18] <Healot> "libgtk2.0-dev" --- firebird619, it's debian world now :)
[06:18] <mikebot> where can i download somethign so that i can watch windows media player things in firefox?
[06:18] <firebird619> Healot: I used to use Red Hat, but now I use Ubuntu.
[06:18] <frank23> ithicine: thanks alot! If I had started with  man find and man cpio, I doubt I would be finished tonight!
[06:18] <Healot> yes, I know that... you're not the only one :)
[06:18] <ithicine> mikebot: someone was kind enough to inform me of EasyUbuntu earlier
[06:18] <firebird619> Healot: Thanks for the help
[06:18] <gabaug> anybody know if links in an e-mail not opening in Firefox unless it's already opened is a known bug?
[06:18] <ithicine> mikebot: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:19] <tristanmike> ithicine, ;)
[06:19] <ithicine> mikebot: AFAIK, that should be able to give you the appropriate libraries
[06:19] <ithicine> tristanmike: haha... Let's use learning for evil!
[06:19] <Toma-> logical_mark, what webcam is it?
[06:20] <mikebot> ithicine, thanks, but what do i do with a *.bz2?
[06:20] <logical_mark> Toma-, Logitech Fusion
[06:20] <Healot> gabaug, that's not really a bug... you need to associate an e-mail client first... somewhere in Firefox or the desktop manager itself
[06:20] <Toma-> ok
[06:20] <gabaug> Healot: it is a bug, because it works if FF is already opened
[06:20] <tristanmike> mikebot, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer" should get you streaming video
[06:20] <Healot> mikebot, "bunzip2"
[06:20] <ithicine> mikebot: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz
[06:20] <gabaug> Healot: the bug is opening a http link in an e-mail in FF
[06:21] <mikebot> tristanmike, Healot ithicine thanks
[06:21] <Toma-> logical_mark, its semi-working in the latest spca5xx drivers
[06:21] <Toma-> actually, linux-UVC
[06:21] <Toma-> sorry
[06:21] <thewayofzen> Any dapper users having problems with firefox automatically opening all archives.. and not really working well as far as "save link as" etc?
[06:21] <thewayofzen> ** when using firefox
[06:22] <thewayofzen> im having to fetch the downloaded archives in /tmp
[06:22] <Toma-> logical_mark, http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices
[06:22] <logical_mark> Toma-, Thanks! I will check it out now!
[06:22] <gabaug> thewayofzen: save as is working fine for me (dapper+ff)
[06:22] <ithicine> logical_mark: haha... spca5xx.  I'm using a webcam supported by those drivers, too.  You're going to need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx
[06:22] <logical_mark> Toma-, Actually I just looked at that, and have NO CLUE how to install it
[06:23] <logical_mark> ithicine, thanks. Will do. Is it TOO complicated?
[06:23] <Toma-> logical_mark, ahh, you need subversion, and make sure you compile with gcc-3.4, not the default 4.0
[06:23] <ithicine> logical_mark: not really.  It's just that you need to make sure to use gcc-3.4 and not gcc-4.0
[06:23] <Healot> YES, logical_mark, hehe :)
[06:23] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  it works in certain locations in others its never there.. but i find it works fine in XP..   but anything like a gtk theme in tar.gz format on gnome-look.org will now only open in the archive manager.. where as in breezy it allowed me the option to save it to desktop
[06:23] <thewayofzen> ive configured firefox to ask me where to put everything first.. etc.
[06:23] <davidX-> anyone else having problems licq's dependants?
[06:23] <ithicine> logical_mark: the link I sent really holds your hand through it
[06:24] <Toma-> ithicine, actually, if you read that table, its not the spca5xx driver that supports it...
[06:24] <ithicine> Toma-: uh oh.
[06:24] <logical_mark> ithicine, I hope so. Here I go
[06:24] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  the only other dapper problem im having is with the TRASH.   its set to ask me before deleting anything yet anything i drag to trash disappears permanently
[06:24] <Toma-> :)
[06:24] <logical_mark> ithicine, Toma- Healot, Thanks for your help
[06:24] <gabaug> thewayofzen: sure you don't have it set to automatically run tgz's? (prefs -> downloads -> view and edit actions)
[06:24] <ithicine> logical_mark: hold on.  Might not be the spca5xx drivers you need.
[06:24] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  that just started today though.. after the last batch of updates
[06:24] <logical_mark> ithicine, holding...
[06:25] <mikebot> um
[06:25] <ithicine> logical_mark: what's the make and model of your webcam again?
[06:25] <slindsay> On a completely different note, I have another, hopefully unrelated problem:  I'm using a Belkin wireless card (Broadcom 4318, revision2) with ndiswrapper (using BCMWL5.INF and .SYS).  Most of the time the wireless works great, but with WEP encrypted networks (haven't tried WPA), the gnome wireless tools fail completely.  They'll find the network, but it won't let me connect to it.  Instead, I've been using "iwconfig" and "dhclient" to set up the conne
[06:25] <slindsay> ction but that seems to work only randomly.  I've had to run "iwconfig wlan0 essid default" up to eight times before it finally sets that field on the card.  Also, if the connection is disrupted in any way (requiring a repeat of the earlier steps), the system will crash hard when the it reconnects.  Any suggestions?  (Other than Belkin making proper Linux drivers?)
[06:25] <mikebot> i downloaded easy ubuntu to my desktop, but am unsure as to what to do
[06:25] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  the only options set in that field are QTL WM WVX FLI AU SPL
[06:25] <logical_mark> ithicine, It is a Logitech Fusion Webcam
[06:25] <ithicine> mikebot: Applications, Accessories, Termnal
[06:25] <ithicine> mikebot: type as I write
[06:25] <ithicine> mikebot: cd Desktop
[06:26] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  there are no other actions set.. thats the problem im not even ABLE to set new ones.. create define or otherwise.  theres never an option since installing to do so.. its always since the cd install had a mind of its own.
[06:26] <Toma-> logical_mark, youll need to follow these commands to get the UVC source http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=5681
[06:26] <mikebot> ithicine, i downloaded a .bz2, not a tar
[06:26] <ithicine> mikebot: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz
[06:26] <tristanmike> mikebot, just right click the file and select "Extract Here"
[06:26] <ithicine> mikebot: woops.  change gz to bz2
[06:26] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  having to fetch things in /tmp is a tad frustrating :)
[06:26] <Healot> mikebot, "bunzip2 <filename>"
[06:26] <mikebot> tristanmike, i did that, but i don't know what to do after that
[06:26] <logical_mark> Toma-, after I do that, then what?
[06:26] <tristanmike> mikebot, cd into the folder
[06:26] <sinaduel> I need a program for kubuntu that converts mid to wav, does anyone know of such a program?
[06:27] <mikebot> tristanmike, i opened the "Easy Ubunutu" file, and it asked for a password, then said i gave it the wrong one
[06:27] <Toma-> logical_mark, probably need to autogen.sh to create a configure script that you then run and so on
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> Can I change the gain on a built-in microphone with some configuration something, or is that fixed by hardware?
[06:27] <tristanmike> bah! it's not packaged in a folder
[06:27] <mikebot> haha
[06:28] <mikebot> yeah, i put it in a folder before i did that
[06:28] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, most mic's have a boost option in the mixer settings
[06:28] <logical_mark> Toma-, I think all this is out of my league... I think I am going to have to wait until Ubuntu supports it out of the box or it becomes easier to do
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: All right, I'll look for that.
[06:28] <tristanmike> mikebot, you want to run the "easyubuntu.py" file
[06:28] <thewayofzen> gabaug,  when i load this page for example  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26050  and i right click on DOWNLOAD and choose save as..  it wont download the tar.gz but actually i get download.php instead.
[06:28] <Healot> logical_mark, wait until Creative supports GNU/Linux :)
[06:28] <Healot> not the other way around
[06:29] <Toma-> logical_mark, :(
[06:29] <Toma-> logical_mark, it wont get into dapper. youll have to wait till october :/
[06:30] <mikebot> tristanmike, oh okay
[06:30] <mikebot> tristanmike, ah, that was easy, thanks
[06:30] <ithicine> logical_mark: yeah, sorry.  Just confirmed it.  Your webcam's support by spca5xx is in the testing phase
[06:30] <logical_mark> Toma-, I have no clue what I am doing though. My learning curve is great and I am certainly not easily intimidated, but I don't think I should start playing with ALL this just to get the webcam working... You know
[06:30] <tristanmike> mikebot, did you use gksudo?
[06:30] <ithicine> logical_mark: I'm checking to see if there's another driver at all
[06:30] <mikebot> tristanmike, and this will allow me to watch windows media files in firefox?
[06:30] <mikebot> tristanmike, no
[06:30] <tristanmike> mikebot, used just sudo?
[06:30] <mikebot> tristanmike, no, downloaded from website
[06:31] <Toma-> logical_mark, it sounds like its a pretty rare/fancy webcam right?
[06:31] <tristanmike> mikebot, no, sorry, I meant to install/use
[06:31] <sagarp> my mute button doesnt mute anything...even when i go to preferences in the volume thing and select every channel
[06:31] <mikebot> just double clicked?
[06:31] <tristanmike> mikebot, and it worked, well, there ya go
[06:31] <mikebot> tristanmike, well i can't install anythign by doing that, i get an error
[06:32] <logical_mark> Toma-, Its fancy yeah. But there is a fancier one, the Logitech Orbit, that seems to have support with EasyCam2, so it is frustrating
[06:32] <mikebot> tristanmike, "must run the program as a root user"
[06:32] <linux4all> sagarp: does it do anything at all
[06:32] <tristanmike> right, so "gksudo easyubuntu.py"
[06:32] <tristanmike> mikebot, ^^^^
[06:32] <ithicine> logical_mark: yeah.  You've only got the possibility of spca5xx and http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ to work with
[06:32] <sagarp> linux4all, no...but when i select everything (including PCM) and then change volume, the PCM is set
[06:32] <mikebot> tristanmike, hehe okay, thanks
[06:32] <ithicine> logical_mark: seems we're still waiting for better support for your webcam
[06:33] <sagarp> linux4all it works but not the mute, i guess
[06:33] <Toma-> logical_mark, for the sake of yourself and others, email the driver people at logitech. ask for linux support. if enough people nag them, theyll have to start sharing code with linux driver writers
[06:33] <wall0159> howdy all
[06:33] <tristanmike> mikebot, we used "gksudo" as opposed to just plain "sudo" because the action that required root priviledges was graphical
[06:33] <linux4all> does mute work when you mute it with mouse?
[06:33] <logical_mark> ithicine, Toma- thanks for all the help! I am emailing logitech (all addresses I found) right now
[06:34] <cyphase> i have a strange problem with 3D
[06:34] <mikebot> tristanmike, okay..
[06:34] <Toma-> superb :)
[06:34] <cyphase> when i run that XGL Live CD (which obviously needs 3D support), it works fine
[06:34] <mikebot> tristanmike, ugh, errors:  in terminal: tar -xvjf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.gz and a popup: Failed to run easyubuntu.py as user root:
[06:34] <mikebot>  Child terminated with 1 status
[06:34] <cyphase> but when running the ubuntu install on my drive, it crashed after a few minutes
[06:34] <cyphase> any ideas?
[06:35] <linux4all> bad cd?
[06:35] <mikebot> tristanmike, the terminal error was: sudo: easyubuntu.py: command not found
[06:35] <tristanmike> mikebot, can you post the entire out put on pastebin
[06:35] <Lao> hey guys, does anyone know what the minimum system requirements are to run Ubuntu?
[06:35] <cyphase> linux4all, huh?
[06:35] <mikebot> tristanmike, that was all of it
[06:35] <linux4all> bad live cd
[06:35] <linux4all> maybe
[06:35] <cyphase> linux4all, the CD is the one that works
[06:35] <Lao> I have an old pentium 2 that I was thinking about giving it a shot with
[06:35] <cyphase> it's not ubuntu though
[06:35] <linux4all> lao: itll work
[06:35] <ithicine> mikebot: I guess you didn't see the fix for extracting the file... it's not gz.  It's tar -xjvf EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz2
[06:35] <mikebot> tristanmike, ijust want to watch windows media files
[06:35] <cyphase> but the ubuntu install crashes after a few minutes
[06:36] <cyphase> with 3d enabled
[06:36] <Lao> really? I'm kinda shocked
[06:36] <linux4all> cyphase:  during install or after install
[06:36] <tristanmike> mikebot, i understand, but you can thank microsoft for making them legally cumbersome
[06:36] <Lao> thanks alot
[06:36] <wall0159> I have a question wrt my ipod mini on Breezy. My connection doesn't always work. When connecting via USB, (in dmesg) I sometimes get read errors, or 'cannot read partition table', and when I use FW, I just get 'Node changed:' but the pod doesn't mount. This only seems to be a prob when hot-plugging - when I boot the PC with the ipod plugged in, it seems to work. Are there known problems with ipod minis in Ubuntu Breezy? Cheers!
[06:36] <mikebot> tristanmike, hehe
[06:36] <cyphase> linux4all, a ways after install
[06:36] <cyphase> lol
[06:36] <mikebot> ithicine, i extracted it as a bz2, not tar
[06:36] <tristanmike> mikebot, "sudo apt-get install subversion"
[06:36] <cyphase> i just got a new card and monitor
[06:37] <ithicine> mikebot: it's a tar file INSIDE a bz2
[06:37] <cyphase> or new to me anyway
[06:37] <mikebot> ithicine, ah
[06:37] <ithicine> mikebot: but the files you need are inside the tar.  Under linux our archives are usually tar files contained inside gz or bz2
[06:37] <linux4all> is ti the xserver that crashes? or the whole system
[06:37] <Healot> "bunzip2" to unzio a bz2 file
[06:37] <tristanmike> mikebot, bah, just right click on the dang file and select "Extract Here" and you can't go wrong
[06:37] <ithicine> mikebot: you get better compression that way.  The tar command understands this
[06:37] <Healot> then untar it :)
[06:38] <mikebot> tristanmike, i did that
[06:38] <tristanmike> mikebot, then all the files should have been extracted
[06:38] <slindsay> lao, I'm running ubuntu on an old PII and it runs great (with the exception of some hardware driver problems -- performance is good though)
[06:38] <cyphase> linux4all, the xserver crashes, then i get a screen with black on the top half and colored noise on the bottom
[06:38] <tristanmike> and you shouldn't have a "tar"
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Lao: You might find something lighter like XFCE would work better than Gnome, but yeah, P2 should work.
[06:38] <mikebot> tristanmike, they were
[06:39] <linux4all> what card are u useing?
[06:39] <tristanmike> mikebot, then ignore my rambling
[06:39] <mikebot> tristanmike, when i open the fodler on my desktop, i see the py, but when i ls it, i don't
[06:39] <ithicine> mikebot: Just find the directory called EasyUbuntu_2006-03-05 using your file manager and also be sure to read the README file that was also included
[06:39] <mikebot> tristanmike, oh, yes it is
[06:39] <cyphase> linux4all, nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4400
[06:39] <cyphase> linux4all, i'm using the DVI port
[06:40] <tristanmike> mikebot, I was going to say, I see it on mine, lol
[06:40] <tristanmike> mikebot, did you install subversion?
[06:40] <linux4all> gimme a sec...
[06:40] <mikebot> tristanmike, heh, yeah i did
[06:40] <mikebot> ithicine, i read it
[06:40] <mikebot> ithicine, but i don't have a .sh
[06:40] <tristanmike> mikebot, try the "gksudo" command again
[06:41] <cyphase> the Live CD probably has more up to date drivers, sincew it's much newer the breezy
[06:41] <cyphase> since*
[06:41] <cyphase> i don't know what version though
[06:41] <mikebot> tristanmike, hehe i did ...
[06:41] <Lao> I'm gonna try ubuntu and DSL
[06:41] <tristanmike> mikebot, did it work this time?
[06:41] <linux4all> lao: ubuntu rocks
[06:41] <klaxian> has anyone used ifrename?
[06:41] <klaxian> i'm having problems with it
[06:41] <linux4all> cyphase: breezy 5.10
[06:41] <ithicine> mikebot: Sure you do.  The sh file is inside the EasyUbuntu_2006-03-05 directory.  It's called launchEasyUbuntu.sh
[06:42] <Xaero> Which is better Ubuntu or Kubuntu? is there any difference besides the desktop used? what about included software?
[06:42] <klaxian> i set up a lan and wan interface with it, but i can't access the internet with either
[06:42] <tristanmike> ithicine, not if he got the svn
[06:42] <mikebot> tristanmike, Failed to run easyubuntu.py as user root:
[06:42] <cyphase> Xaero, the installe software depends on the distro
[06:42] <wall0159> Xaero, they're the same
[06:42] <tristanmike> mikebot, with "gksudo" ?
[06:42] <ithicine> tristanmike: sorry, didn't realize you had him get the subversion.  I'll let you take it from here
[06:42] <cyphase> e.g., gnome uses gedit, and KDE uses KWrite (i think)
[06:42] <wall0159> they're just preconfigured differently
[06:42] <mikebot> tristanmike, yes
[06:42] <cyphase> linux4all, yes
[06:42] <mikebot> ithicine, i don't see it
[06:42] <tristanmike> ithicine, I think we'll be needing your advice my friend
[06:42] <mikebot> ithicine, and i don't know which directory youa re talking about
[06:43] <tristanmike> mikebot, that's wierd
[06:43] <Xaero> well Im asking if the KDE equivelents as good or better than Gnome's.. or would I need to get a 3rd party package?
[06:43] <ithicine> tristanmike: ok
[06:43] <ithicine> mikebot: let's take this from the top
[06:43] <wall0159> Xaero - heh heh it depends who you ask ;-)
[06:43] <fade_> !helpme ./configure
[06:43] <ubotu> fade_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:43] <wall0159> 3rd party - that doesn't really make sense in a Linux context
[06:43] <hexperson> hey
[06:44] <mikebot> ithicine, okay, all i've done is downloaded the bz2, moved it into a folder, and right clicked > extract here
[06:44] <fade_> how to ./configure for amd64 processor?
[06:44] <tristanmike> mikebot, "gksudo easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py"
[06:44] <Lao> trust me preaching to the chior, I'm converting a friend of mine who was a hard core Gentoo user and fedora to Kubuntu
[06:44] <ithicine> mikebot: ok... so that should have extracted some shiny new files.  What do you see?
[06:44] <Agent_bob> Xaero 'as good'  'better'   'best'      no friend, it is all relative; and depands on your tastes
[06:44] <wall0159> sorry to harp on - could someone give me some pointers with my ipod mini? is this the best place to ask?
[06:44] <hexperson> I have a NetServer LH3R and am wondering if it'll work with Ubuntu? Has dual Pentium III 500MHz processors, 1GB RAM, embedded graphics, 6 9GB SCSI HDs connected via a embedded HP NetRAID controller
[06:45] <hexperson> will that work?
[06:45] <linux4all> cyphase: have you been to the ubuntu forums?
[06:45] <ithicine> tristanmike: I think we've got him trying to do the subversion and the latest snapshot at the same time
[06:45] <mikebot> ithicine, well i don't see any sh's
[06:45] <tristanmike> ithicine, I'm following the readme
[06:45] <Xaero> Well the Synaptic package manager is in Ubuntu... is it in Kubuntu also?
[06:45] <hexperson> tried suse 9.1 but it didn't detect the HD...so shoud that config work with Ubuntu?..
[06:45] <tristanmike> mikebot, did you try the command I just posted above
[06:45] <cyphase> :S briefly
[06:45] <ithicine> mikebot: do you see a new folder?
[06:45] <frank23> ithicine: the /home move worked. thanks!
[06:46] <ithicine> frank23: np :D
[06:46] <mikebot> tristanmike, yeah, i got another error
[06:46] <linux4all> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=4215584 im still looking...
[06:46] <mikebot> ithicine, yes, 3 new folders: conf, i18n, pixmaps
[06:46] <wall0159> Xaero - anything you can run in Ubuntu, you can run in Kubuntu, and visa versa (AFAIK)
[06:46] <hexperson> please help me...
[06:46] <tristanmike> mikebot, pastebin it....
[06:46] <mikebot> tristanmike, what is the patebin link>?
[06:46] <hexperson> help...:-(
[06:47] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[06:47] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:47] <linux4all> hexperson: ???
[06:47] <linux4all> hexperson whats wrong?
[06:47] <hexperson> k I pasted my q up a bit
[06:47] <hexperson> lemme repaste it
[06:47] <mikebot> !pastebin
[06:47] <tristanmike> hexperson, Ubuntu is *very* good at hardware detection
[06:47] <wall0159> hexperson, you might need a driver disk during the install (or am I just thinking of an old Debian thing that no longer exists?)
[06:47] <mikebot> ubotu Someone already said that 20 seconds ago
[06:47] <ubotu> mikebot: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:47] <mikebot> ouch
[06:47] <mikebot> !paste
[06:47] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:47] <hexperson> hmm...well it previousy failed on another SCSI RAID controller before...
[06:47] <hexperson> one sec..
[06:48] <hexperson> typing specs
[06:48] <Agent_bob> Xaero i've never installed 'kubuntu'  but i'm sure it has a gui frontend to apt  whether synaptic or some other frontend.     and if it is another you could still install synaptic and use it if you choose.
[06:48] <hexperson> NetServer LH3R, dual PentiumIII 500 MHz processors, 1GB RAM, 6 9GB HDs attatched via embedded NetRAID controller, embedded graphics
[06:48] <hexperson> those are the specs...should they work?
[06:48] <mbb> old h/w question - what is the likely result of a > 137 Gig drive on an old PC (non LBA48 bios), running breezy or dapper?
[06:48] <hexperson> failed with suse
[06:48] <ReWT_> How do I extract a .rar file?
[06:49] <linux4all> why did it fail?
[06:49] <linux4all> hexperson
[06:49] <mikebot> tristanmike, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9947
[06:49] <wall0159> hexperson, I'm no expert, but I'd think so
[06:49] <hexperson> didn't find embedded RAID
[06:49] <ithicine> ReWT_: rar e <name of your file>
[06:49] <mikebot> tristanmike, ithicine i gotta go to a meeting at 10, but thanks for your help
[06:49] <mikebot> this seems like more trouble than it's worth
[06:49] <linux4all> hexperson: try the live cd to see, cant hurt
[06:49] <wall0159> try googling for the model of your RAID, drivers and linux. Perhaps Ubunbu or Debian too
[06:49] <tristanmike> mikebot, nah, it's just very new
[06:50] <fade_> sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf /home/fade/xorg.conf => file not found. why?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> mbb if you can get it to boot a small partition or perhaps another disk  linux doesn't depend on bios for disk access
[06:50] <ithicine> mikebot: np.  Don't worry, though... it's actually easier than it seems.  We're just having communication difficulties
[06:50] <hexperson> ah yeah...well a friend gave me a copy of the installer...so I guess I might as well pop it in and see what it finds
[06:50] <mikebot> tristanmike, ah..well in any case, i have to go
[06:50] <mikebot> this program is unneccessary to me anyway, i just need one thing from it..i'll work on getting that thing later
[06:50] <tristanmike> mikebot, just gives us one more moment
[06:50] <mikebot> thanks guys
[06:50] <mikebot> ah okay
[06:50] <llama32> how do i use a USB MP3 player with KDE/Ubuntu?
[06:50] <hexperson> wow and this chatroom is huge lol
[06:51] <ReWT_> ithicine, I got this    Uplink Report
[06:51] <ReWT_> Here is additional information I was able to find out by using your Uplink
[06:51] <ReWT_> Speed: 57.2961775544765
[06:51] <ReWT_> Strength: 126
[06:51] <ReWT_> Endurance: 21
[06:51] <ReWT_> Panic: 0
[06:51] <ReWT_> Confidence: 0/6
[06:51] <ReWT_> Ooops sorry
[06:51] <tristanmike> mikebot, you will find that easy ubuntu will give you more than the one thing you seek now
[06:51] <linux4all> llama32 plug it in
[06:51] <ReWT_> ithicine, Got Trapt_-_Someone_In_Control_(Proper)_for_www.goldesel.to.rar
[06:51] <ReWT_> rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ sudo rar e Trapt_-_Someone_In_Control_\(Proper\)_for_www.goldesel.to.rar
[06:51] <ReWT_> Password:
[06:51] <ReWT_> sudo: rar: command not found
[06:51] <mikebot> haha ReWT_
[06:51] <mikebot> !tell ReWT_ about paste
[06:51] <ReWT_> :-P I forgot you had to right click it.
[06:51] <mbb> Agent_bob: even over 137G? I could even boot from a floppy, or an old smaller drive.
[06:52] <linux4all> llama32 open sda1 or what ever your mp3 player is and click your files you want to play
[06:52] <ithicine> ReWT_: sudo apt-get install rar
[06:52] <pdavid> hi all
[06:52] <ithicine> ReWT_: then run the first command
[06:52] <mbb> want to put the > 137G in an old P200 or P300 just to back up to across my network.
[06:52] <mikebot> tristanmike, i really have to go, but i'll ask you for help when i come back
[06:52] <tristanmike> mikebot, one more thing, in the directory try "sudo ./easyubuntu.py"
[06:52] <pdavid> does anyone know if the latest GPG 1.4.2.2 has been packaged yet that doesnt have the flaw?
[06:52] <mikebot> okay okay
[06:52] <mbb> don't laugh, my best machine is a K6/2-500
[06:52] <Agent_bob> mbb  yes a smaller drive with the /boot  partition would work on that hw
[06:52] <pdavid> or is in any repositories?
[06:53] <wall0159> do ipod minis work in Ubuntu breezy reliably? where should I go with problems?
[06:53] <chp21> i want to resize my ntfs partition to i can install ubuntu. what is the easiest way to go about doing this?
[06:53] <mikebot> tristanmike, ah perfect--that worked
[06:53] <mikebot> tristanmike, thank you
[06:53] <ReWT_> ithicine, can you go to channel #rarhelp
[06:53] <hexperson> lol this server counts 1GB of RAM each post KB by KB XD!
[06:53] <PerceptualChaos> chp21, partition magic
[06:53] <linux4all> amaranth: busy tonight, u havent said a word
[06:53] <tristanmike> mikebot, we'd get it sooner or later :P
[06:53] <mikebot> tristanmike, hehe, well thank you
[06:53] <Viking667> meep..... wow! Tha'ss lotta people!
[06:53] <fade_> how to enlarge scr res?
[06:53] <llama32> linux4all: i did. must it be there at boot or something? there seems to be one USB removable storage device, but i think that's my printer's card reader thingo (it won't mount - bad superblock...)
[06:53] <mikebot> now i must be off
[06:53] <Amaranth> linux4all: school
[06:53] <Agent_bob> mbb i'm talking to you on a p1 mmx   with 600m hdd  :)
[06:53] <chp21> PerceptualChaos: hrm. about what is the easiest nocost way to do this?
[06:53] <mikebot> ithicine, thanks for your help
[06:53] <mikebot> tristanmike, goodnight
[06:53] <ithicine> pdavid: no, it's way too soon.  Don't worry, though... the flaw isn't absolutely critical.  It's not like they can cause collissions or anything... it's just possible to insert plaintext before and/or after the signed or encrypted portion of the message
[06:54] <PerceptualChaos> um download warez partition magic?
[06:54] <PerceptualChaos> ;)
[06:54] <wastrel> gparted can resize ntfs
[06:54] <tristanmike> mikebot, good night
[06:54] <linux4all> llama32: itll show but cant mount?
[06:54] <wall0159> wastrel: really?!? wow!
[06:54] <pdavid> ithicine: i know, i just dont like the idea of possible injected text into my emails
[06:54] <wall0159> didn't know that
[06:54] <Viking667> Sorry, I had a question about Breezy update packages... I'm trying to upgrade to OpenOffice.org2-2.0.1, but the packages don't show up in thp Packages.gz of "breezy-updates"
[06:54] <mbb> Agent_bob: cool! I thought I was the most antique hardware person left...
[06:54] <fade_> heh, its morning now )))
[06:54] <ReWT_> ithicine, can you please help me in #rarhelp
[06:54] <pdavid> if i compile, can i submit a package to the repositories myself?
[06:54] <linux4all> 11:52 here
[06:54] <ithicine> pdavid: neither do I.  That's why I already compiled from source
[06:54] <wastrel> http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[06:54] <fade_> 8:52
[06:55] <chp21> wastrel: i was reading about ntfstools and how resizing meant resizing the filesystem and then shrinking the partition.. a two step process. gparted is doing both steps for me?
[06:55] <pdavid> i'll just compile it myself, and maybe make a package for it
[06:55] <Agent_bob> mbb you don't hold the title untill you beet me,    and don't make be turn on the c64
[06:55] <fade_> linux4all, where are you from?
[06:55] <wall0159> chp21: make sure you backup first!
[06:55] <Agent_bob> :_
[06:55] <linux4all> mobile alabama US of A
[06:55] <pdavid> linux4all: you are from mobile?!
[06:55] <linux4all> yep
[06:55] <pdavid> so am i
[06:55] <linux4all> really
[06:56] <chp21> wall0159: that is the problem. cheapskates didn't include an os cd. i can't afford to screw up the first time around
[06:56] <wastrel> chp21:  i honestly don't remember - i installed ubuntu on this laptop about a year ago, used a gparted boot disk to shrink the windows xp partition (after defragmenting)  i think it was one step
[06:56] <pdavid> you part of a lug there?
[06:56] <linux4all> i never meet a live person that uses linux
[06:56] <llama32> linux4all: i dont think it's showing - i think that's just the printer's removable storage. it works in XP and other USB devices work.
[06:56] <chp21> wastrel: doing the same. laptop installation
[06:57] <linux4all> llama32: unplug your printer and try
[06:57] <ithicine> linux4all: that's just because we're not really alive ;)
[06:57] <fade_> linux4all, can you help me?
[06:57] <linux4all> maybe
[06:57] <PerceptualChaos> heh I just used the warez I guess I should have used open-source
[06:57] <fade_> i want to enlarge my scr res
[06:57] <linux4all> ithicine: i thought i was alone and this was a really long dream :-P
[06:58] <fade_> i have read some howto, but it doesn't work
[06:58] <Viking667> We're all photons impinging upon your eyeballs (or soundwaves on your ears)
[06:58] <wall0159> chp21: my understanding is that linux ntfs drivers aren't great. If I wree you, I'd either (1) use partition magic or (2) backup windows using ghost, erase the disk and repartition, and then ghost back to a smaller partition (this assumes that you can do that with ghost - I don't know)
[06:58] <linux4all> fade_: please tell me your not useing a dell laptop...i have the same prob
[06:58] <cyphase> does anyone have 3D over DVI without having to do anything besides install nvidia-glx?
[06:59] <wall0159> chp21 : or (3) erase windos all together ;-)
[06:59] <Lao> has anyone used firewire eathernet?
[06:59] <Lao> if so how is it done?
[06:59] <linux4all> nope, not me
[06:59] <linux4all> brb
[06:59] <Zhadow> does anyone know how to erase an OS out of GRUB?
[06:59] <wall0159> anyway, I muse be off. No help for my ipod.. :-(
[07:00] <pdavid> wall0159: have you tried gtkpod?
[07:00] <linux4all> sorry :(
[07:00] <hexperson> weird...I'm at the partitioning screen and it says it lists the devices and partitions found...yet it lists none of either...is that because it's not compatible with NTFS or that my drives are fully partitioned?
[07:00] <hexperson> or is it because it isn't compatible with the RAID?
[07:00] <Agent_bob> Zhadow remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:00] <wall0159> pdavid: it's the mounting of the ipod that's causing probs.
[07:00] <pdavid> wall0159: what prob in particular?
[07:00] <chp21> wall0159: not worried about it. my understanding is well along.. just nervous about resizing ntfs. its important the windows installation stays where it is, etc
[07:01] <tristanmike> Zhadow, if it's not default boot, you should be just able to delete it from the menu.lst file i'd think
[07:01] <wastrel> Zhadow:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  just remove the boot block - back up menu.lst first...
[07:01] <PerceptualChaos> I actually came here to ask a question about accessing NTFS partitions on Ubuntu /ext3...
[07:01] <PerceptualChaos>  I tried adding the unmask=0222 line to the fstab file like I saw in this forum but when I did that the system couldn't mount the partitions anymore either at boot or manually
[07:01] <PerceptualChaos> any ideas?
[07:01] <wall0159> pdavid: well, it doesn't consistantly mount it. USB is flakey, and sometimes doesn't read the aprtition table, sometimes produces errors. FW just registers that it's connected, but doesn't mount it!
[07:01] <chp21> wall0159: ghosting the drive isn't a bad idea but i don't know anything about it
[07:01] <PerceptualChaos> oops this = http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81825.html
[07:01] <hexperson> er the only option is to manually edit partition table yet that doesn't let me do it...and guided partitioning just leads me back to manually edit partitoons...is this cuz the drives are fully NTFS partitioned?
[07:01] <pdavid> wall0159: can you mount it manually with FW?
[07:01] <tristanmike> !tell PerceptualChaos about windowsdrives
[07:01] <wall0159> chp21: it's actually quite easy, but I can understand your reservations. Use partition magic if you can.
[07:02] <wall0159> pdavid: I don't think it's creating a device for me to mount
[07:02] <pdavid> what does dmesg give you?
[07:02] <hexperson> helllo:???
[07:02] <PerceptualChaos> cheers tristainmike
[07:02] <wall0159> pdavid: I just get "ieee1394: Node changed"
[07:02] <wall0159> pdavid: but no mount...
[07:03] <wastrel> PerceptualChaos:  umask, not unmask,  but you can't mount ntfs rw - linux doesn't support writing ntfs
[07:03] <pdavid> wall0159: and what about using usb?
[07:03] <tristanmike> PerceptualChaos, in fact if you do try to write to NTFS the chance is very high that you can kiss that partition goodbye
[07:03] <wall0159> pdavid: that's inconsistent too. It usually works the first time I connect the ipod after the computer's booted, but almost never again (without a reboot), and sometimes I get read errors, or 'cannot read partition table'
[07:03] <Agent_bob> !usb
[07:03] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob
[07:04] <Zhadow> ok i got the file....what is the command to change permissions....because it says i am not autohrized...so i am assunming i should od it with the command line and use sudo
[07:04] <frank23> I want to upgrade libglib2.0  to debian unstable in order to install the latest mono (from unstable) can I expect any problems doing this? running breezy
[07:04] <wall0159> pdavis: I wondered if it was an issue with my usb drivers.. but that's a bit beyond my expertise.. ;-)
[07:04] <PerceptualChaos> oh! umask
[07:04] <PerceptualChaos> maybe I screwed it up
[07:04] <PerceptualChaos> I just want to read
[07:04] <pdavid> wall0159: can you tell me pm what the output of dmesg is after you connect the ipod?
[07:04] <hexperson> can someone hep me again plz?
[07:04] <Viking667> So, any answers to my previous question aside from downloading required packages manually?
[07:04] <Agent_bob> Zhadow no.     use    gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:05] <Zhadow> ok thanx alot
[07:05] <hexperson> help???
[07:05] <hexperson> ???
[07:05] <Agent_bob> !help
[07:05] <tristanmike> !helpme
[07:05] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:05] <chp21> hrm. apparantly i can resize ntfs with partman, which is included on the cd
[07:06] <Viking667> hexperson: no point screaming yer head off here...
[07:06] <Viking667> They'll either help, or they won't.
[07:06] <tristanmike> Viking667, what was your previous question ?
[07:06] <wall0159> pdavid: with usb, sometimes I get 'usb-storage: device found at 2' and sometimes I get 'usb-storage: device scan complete' but no mount of the ipod.
[07:06] <edward0> hexperson: ?
[07:06] <Viking667> I've asked a question, and am awaiting an answer.
[07:06] <Viking667> Ih
[07:06] <phiber_optic> I have a question I will reinstall windows in my computer, but it will erase grub... how can I restore grup?
[07:06] <Viking667> Sorry, I had a question about Breezy update packages... I'm trying to upgrade to OpenOffice.org2-2.0.1, but the packages don't show up in thp Packages.gz of "breezy-updates"
[07:06] <pdavid> wall0159: can you give the exact output of dmesg?  just cut and paste it into pm to me
[07:06] <linux4all> not enough people here to help others? :( has anyone tried remote desktop to fix problems?
[07:07] <ithicine> phiber_optic: insert your ubuntu cd, and go through the setup as normal until you get to the part about partitioning
[07:07] <Viking667> Should I just download the packages and dpkg them into place along with the requirements?
[07:07] <wall0159> pdavid: sorry - does pm mean a private message? (I don't want to spam the list)
[07:07] <phiber_optic> but what will I put ithicine ?
[07:07] <phiber_optic> system update?
[07:07] <pdavid> wall0159: yep
[07:07] <ithicine> Go for manual partitioning, and tell it all the correct mountpoints
[07:07] <wall0159> I might drop out here..
[07:07] <wastrel> Viking667:  breezy is the current stable version - it only gets security updates, not version upgrades
[07:07] <edward0> Viking667: ?
[07:08] <phiber_optic> ithicine,  when u first put the cd it tells u if you want to install brand new or update
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.697000]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.702000]  scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.704000]  usb-storage: device found at 2
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.704000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.704000]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295509.704000]  USB Mass Storage support registered.
[07:08] <tristanmike> Viking667, yeah, what wastrel said
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295514.707000]    Vendor: Apple     Model: iPod              Rev: 1.62
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295514.707000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[07:08] <wall0159> [4295514.718000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[07:08] <phiber_optic> wall0159, pasta in pastebl
[07:08] <ithicine> ...then try to proceed, and the installer will complain about having an existing install, and drop you to a menu where you can choose the Install Bootloader portion
[07:08] <pdavid> lol
[07:08] <phiber_optic> stop flooding
[07:08] <ithicine> (or whatever it's called)
[07:08] <Agent_bob> good way to die young
[07:08] <pdavid> wall0159: i meant paste into a private message ;)
[07:08] <wall0159> sorry - I tried to pm
[07:08] <wastrel> #flood is better
[07:08] <linux4all> does remote desktop work pver the internet?
[07:08] <wall0159> I've not done that before
[07:08] <phiber_optic> ok ithicine
[07:08] <Viking667> oookay. So how would I "persuade" apt to install those packages along with their requirements?
[07:08] <phiber_optic> Ill try.. I hope it works...
[07:09] <pdavid> my bad everyone, i asked him to paste that output, but into a pm :(
[07:09] <hexperson> alright so I need hep...I tried running setup...and it detected the hardware and brought me to the partitioning screen..but the only option was to manually edit and no partitions appeared although my drives are fully partitioned as NTFS...???
[07:09] <phiber_optic> tahnx ithicine
[07:09] <hexperson> wil this ony work if they're non NTFS and not fully partitioned?
[07:09] <wastrel> Viking667:  it would probably be better to install a tarball rather than a .deb
[07:10] <hexperson> please help me...q posted above..
[07:10] <Viking667> wastrel: hrmm? On a Ubuntu system? You're suggesting I actually *don't* use a deb? <grin> That must be a rare recommendation</grin>
[07:10] <linux4all> SAY testing
[07:10] <wastrel> Viking667:  installing foreign .debs can mess up your package db's (or so i understand...)
[07:10] <linux4all> >:(
[07:10] <hexperson> ???
[07:10] <pdavid> wall0159: I am trying to pm you, do you not see it?
[07:10] <wall0159> yeah - I'm replyig..
[07:11] <Viking667> wastrel: these are debs supplied in the pool of Ubuntu - the "main" pool. Hardly foreign, except perhaps to Breezy...
[07:11] <ntense> hello ubuntunians
[07:11] <wall0159> sorry pdavid - I'm not sure what's happening..
[07:11] <hexperson> hellllllllllllllp
[07:12] <wastrel> Viking667:  are these dapper packages?
[07:12] <pdavid> wall0159: can you see my private message
[07:12] <Agent_bob> hexperson id say you have a problem.    ntfs is not safely writable by linux yet   and from what i hear non-destructive partition resizing in windows is third party only.    so unless you are willing to loose data.    it don't look good.
[07:12] <wall0159> pdavd: yes. and I've replyed..
[07:12] <wall0159> pdavid: not sure what's happening
[07:12] <hexperson> so bob, if I reformat the drives (nothing critical on 'em, this is for testing only) then it should work?
[07:13] <XiCillin> who here is testing the new update-manager?
[07:13] <wall0159> pdavid: but I haven't seen anything since 'hello?'
[07:13] <Viking667> They're dated January this year, instead of October last year
[07:13] <hexperson> ?
[07:13] <pdavid> how about that?
[07:13] <tristanmike> hexperson, I'd believe so
[07:13] <wall0159> pdavid - yes I se you. can you not see me?
[07:14] <pdavid> nope
[07:14] <pdavid> is your nick registered with freenode?
[07:14] <Agent_bob> hexperson if you just delete the existing partitions it should work.    but i say that spareingly.    if the partitioner doesn't detect the drive then it can't install.
[07:14] <wall0159> pdavid - that's weird, but I've not used xchat much at all..
[07:14] <pbransford> wow, some of the folks in ##linux are sour tonight
[07:14] <hexperson> mm k...because what I see is the partitioning screen with the options like "Partitioning Hep", "Configure Software RAID", etc and when I scrol down there's two empty spots...where the partitions should be? do NTFS partitions usuallly show up?
[07:14] <wastrel> Viking667:  they're dapper packages.  it's probably unwise to install them on breezy.  you can upgrade to dapper (due out on the 20th i believe) or go to the oo.org website and download a tarball
[07:14] <wall0159> pdavid - I just got "DCC CHAT  to pdavid timed out - aborting."
[07:14] <thomas`> does ubuntu/linux have a prog thats like daemon tools were u can mount images and view them in media players dvd's iso's etc...
[07:15] <Agent_bob> pbransford possably  newbee burn out.
[07:15] <Zhadow> ok guys....i got rid of it....thanx for your help...im going to test it out now :)
[07:15] <eobanb> pbransford, try not to take it personally.
[07:16] <Agent_bob> Zhadow luck
[07:16] <mrec> hmm why does ubuntu-artwork require gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks which isn't available?
[07:16] <wall0159> pdavid: can you see my chat invite?
[07:16] <pdavid> nopers
[07:16] <thomas`> can u mount images in ubuntu? i know theres a prog out there that does it for linux since there is a daemon tools for windows... shit linux should have this covered
[07:17] <linux4all> pdavid: why dont yall try gaim?
[07:17] <wall0159> pdavid: damn I have no damn idea what's happening.
[07:17] <ScreaminIke> check one. check one two. my audacity's been hard to configure. got it installed, but it messes with my singer. When i try to record more than one track, it drops it down an octave when it spits it back.
[07:17] <eobanb> mrec, the dependency i see for that package seems to be called 'gtk2-engines-clearlooks'
[07:17] <tristanmike> thomas`, vlc?
[07:17] <thomas`> to mount iso's bin/cue
[07:17] <thomas`> alcohol clones
[07:17] <pdavid> wall0159: join channel #pdavid
[07:17] <thomas`> all that kinda stuff mount it etc. to watch a dvd or whatever for that matter lol
[07:17] <Agent_bob> thomas` linux has been doing that for years.     mount -o loop file.img /mount/point/
[07:18] <hexperson> the server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with Ubuntu?
[07:18] <tristanmike> thomas`, vlc will definitely play bin/cue, i did just the other day in fact
[07:18] <hexperson> GUI wise
[07:18] <thomas`> werd
[07:18] <thomas`> werd?
[07:18] <thomas`> so i dont need any extra software agent bob
[07:18] <cyphase> how is it that banshee can "legally" play MP3's?
[07:18] <frank23> thomas`: well some of the fancier image formats dont work that way
[07:18] <PerceptualChaos> thanks for your help tristainmike
[07:18] <PerceptualChaos> gtg now
[07:19] <Agent_bob> try it and see.    oh but you need to prepend   sudo    and the mountpoint must be a dir
[07:19] <hexperson> the server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with ubuntu gui wise?
[07:19] <mrec> eobanb: on my system it depends on gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks ..hmm.
[07:20] <thomas`> nice i can open .cue in vlc
[07:20] <thomas`> thats cool
[07:20] <ithicine> cyphase: it's not that mp3 is illegal... the availability of mp3 playback libraries is just an issue of their liscensing
[07:20] <hexperson> the server has a Cirrus Logic 5446 embedded graphics card...is that compatible with ubuntu gui wise?
[07:20] <eobanb> mrec, you are running breezy?
[07:20] <Agent_bob> quiz  what will happen if i mount a vfat partition on /bin ?
[07:20] <Viking667> eeee. and I don't have the bandwidth to downloading another iso...
[07:20] <cyphase> ithicine, i know
[07:20] <eobanb> hexperson, asking the same question repeatedly will not get you an answer.
[07:20] <cyphase> ithicine, but still
[07:20] <ithicine> cyphase: it's not free as in freedom is all
[07:20] <Viking667> Hang, the DVD I do have got sent to me as it was.
[07:20] <ScreaminIke> check one. check one two. my audacity's been hard to configure. got it installed, but it messes with my singer. When i try to record more than one track, it drops it down an octave when it spits it back.
[07:20] <hexperson> well what will then?
[07:20] <cyphase> ithicine, banshee isn't? or the mp3 issue..
[07:21] <eobanb> hexperson, i can only recommend that you try a liveCD and see if it works.
[07:21] <hexperson> this place is so busy, and when someone is willing to help me I have to retype it anyways
[07:21] <mrec> eobanb: dapperdrake
[07:21] <ithicine> cyphase: mp3 isn't.  mp3 is free as in beer
[07:21] <linux4all> i already said that about the live cd
[07:21] <eobanb> mrec, well that explains it.
[07:21] <eobanb> mrec, dapper is still in development.  for dapper support visit #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <thomas`> omg
[07:21] <cyphase> ithicine, i know, but still..
[07:21] <thomas`> vlc plays img files to
[07:21] <thomas`> played a dvd with no probs at all
[07:21] <thomas`> thats awesome.
[07:21] <Viking667> hrm. Would changing my sources.list to dapper be usable?
[07:21] <eobanb> hexperson, otherwise, considering it's a server anyway, i wouldnt be particularly worried about the embedded video anyway
[07:22] <hexperson> true
[07:22] <cyphase> ithicine, but how does banshee get around the legal issues
[07:22] <hexperson> and I assume ubuntu doesn't mount ntfs at all/recognize it?
[07:22] <ithicine> cyphase: what legal issues?
[07:22] <cyphase> of playing mp3s
[07:22] <eobanb> cyphase, it depends on the juristiction.
[07:22] <cyphase> because there are legal issues
[07:22] <eobanb> jurisdiction*
[07:22] <linux4all> aint that the same as the dvd libs?
[07:22] <cyphase> that's why meny distros, including ubuntu, don't have mp3 support by default
[07:22] <cyphase> many*
[07:23] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell hexperson about ntfs
[07:23] <cyphase> hexperson, it does
[07:23] <eobanb> linux4all, the mp3 and the css problems are related, but not identical.  with css on dvd-video it has more to do with circumventing a copyright enforcement system, whereas mp3 is simply patented and licenced by the MPEG-LA.  nothing to do with copy protection.
[07:23] <ithicine> cyphase: that's not exactly it.  It's a legal issue created by dedication to GNU licensing and other incompatible licenses
[07:24] <linux4all> ok and ubuntu will play mp3
[07:24] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know what the password is for the live CD users?
[07:24] <eobanb> hexperson, ubuntu can read, but not write to, NTFS.
[07:24] <linux4all> you have to set it
[07:24] <Viking667> EruditeHermit: hrmm? For which account?
[07:24] <cyphase> ithicine, so ubuntu could put mp3 support in by default and it would be perfectly legally ok?
[07:24] <hexperson> k, should they show up in the partitioner on the installer?
[07:24] <linux4all> sudo su then passwd
[07:24] <EruditeHermit> Viking667: the default ubuntu account that the Live CD logs into
[07:24] <Viking667> Mine prompted me for a password on install.
[07:24] <ithicine> cyphase: yeah, it would, but it would violate certain *principles* the project prefers
[07:24] <cyphase> lol
[07:24] <Viking667> EruditeHermit: oh. No password, to the best of my knowledge
[07:24] <ScreaminIke> :)
[07:25] <tristanmike> cyphase, they would have to pay a fee
[07:25] <ScreaminIke> Free Software is the pwnz0r
[07:25] <ithicine> cyphase: support is in the repos... but it's under nonfree or universe or something
[07:25] <cyphase> and all this time i thought it was "illegal"
[07:25] <cyphase> ithicine, i know, i have all that installed
[07:25] <cyphase> and libdvdcss :P
[07:25] <hexperson> shoulld ntfs partitions show up in the installler?
[07:25] <Agent_bob> ithicine keyrekt GNU ! compatable w/ mp3 and/or m$
[07:25] <eobanb> like i said before, do not confuse the mp3 issue with the css issue...
[07:25] <ithicine> cyphase: ehhh... libdvdcss is for a different reason
[07:25] <wastrel> Viking667:  you can upgrade to dapper by changing your sources.list entries to dapper, but you might want to wait until release - dapper is still in testing phase and isn't fully stable
[07:25] <linux4all> if you can download libdvdcss why cant it come with the cd....???
[07:26] <ScreaminIke> libdvdcss2 is illegal
[07:26] <Viking667> ah huh. Thank you for that.
[07:26] <ithicine> Agent_bob: yeah, that's what I'm trying to explain
[07:26] <wastrel> Viking667:  it'll still be a big download - but in small pieces, rather than as one iso...
[07:26] <ScreaminIke> patent issues and such
[07:26] <cyphase> but still..
[07:26] <tristanmike> cyphase, if you are in a country that abides by copywrites then yes, it is illegal if you haven't payed for the codec
[07:26] <Viking667> I realise that.
[07:26] <eobanb> linux4all, because using libdvdcss is illegal in the united states.
[07:26] <linux4all> i did not know that
[07:26] <linux4all> now im guilty
[07:26] <hexperson> should ntfs partitions show up in the installers partitioner?
[07:26] <linux4all> there is no warning
[07:26] <ithicine> I call FAIR USE!
[07:26] <Agent_bob> it's a EULA thang    ya know.
[07:26] <linux4all> :)
[07:26] <cyphase> *sigh*
[07:27] <tristanmike> it's only illegal because there is no royalty paid
[07:27] <cyphase> file formats shouldn't be patentable
[07:27] <cyphase> well..
[07:27] <cyphase> most software stuff shouldn't be
[07:27] <hexperson> see? I don't repaste constantly and no one answers...
[07:27] <Agent_bob> hexperson yes they should.   when you select the disk the partitions on it should all appear
[07:27] <linux4all> so for something to be leagal someone has to be paid?
[07:27] <eobanb> hexperson, you cannot install ubuntu to an ntfs partition or volume.
[07:27] <ithicine> cyphase: personally I agree with you.  Software in general shouldn't be patentable.  But I think a topic like this should have its own channel
[07:28] <cyphase> lol
[07:28] <tristanmike> this is probably a discussion for -offtopic
[07:28] <linux4all> #fairuse ??
[07:28] <Viking667> hexperson: I don't know the answer. As to whether ntfs should show up in the partitioner, I don't know.
[07:28] <Agent_bob> hexperson yes they should.   when you select the disk the partitions on it should all appear
[07:28] <Viking667> heh. Gone. Never mind.
[07:28] <ithicine> haha... whoever claims the land first gets to name it, I guess
[07:28] <pdavid> does anyone know if there is an automounter installed automatically by default?
[07:28] <linux4all> i think so
[07:28] <ithicine> pdavid: under Ubuntu?  yes
[07:29] <pdavid> linux4all: thx
[07:29] <pdavid> ithicine: thanks
[07:29] <Agent_bob> maybe he had me on ignore......
[07:29] <wastrel> don't most people?
[07:29] <linux4all> :P
[07:29] <Agent_bob> lol
[07:30] <linux4all> follow thw white rabit
[07:30] <Agent_bob> proBOBably
[07:30] <Viking667> huh? What'd Agent_bob say?
[07:30] <linux4all> lol
[07:30] <Zhadow> it worked! i got wondows out of GRUB
[07:30] <Viking667> did that already. That's how come I ended up HERE!
[07:31] <Agent_bob> Zhadow of course
[07:31] <Zhadow> haha
[07:31] <ithicine> aw, that's boring.  I just joined #fairuse and no one was there to ramble on about politics and ethics with me :(
[07:31] <ithicine> hehe
[07:31] <linux4all> next step: uninstall windows
[07:31] <Zhadow> i also got GParted to format my slave hard drivwe without any errors.....but i still cant get it to mount :(
[07:31] <tristanmike> ithicine, i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic ready to rock and rant :P
[07:31] <linux4all> i thought bill gate was there...sorry
[07:31] <Zhadow> tryed sudo bash diskmounter
[07:32] <Zhadow> and system>administrator>>disks   (which still thinks the drive is NTFS)
[07:32] <Agent_bob> linux4all that's as easy as usdo cat /dev/zero /dev/hda1    hehhe assuming a1 is wondowz
[07:32] <elPepo> hi friends
[07:32] <Viking667> Actually, what started me off on this topic was that the openoffice.org2-core supplied on my DVD wouldn't extract with dpkg, so that counted out all of OO.o2
[07:33] <highvolt1ge> hi
[07:33] <eobanb> hello, elPepo
[07:33] <john66251> Hi all ..... needing help here with Ubantu .....
[07:33] <eobanb> sure thing.  what can we help you with?
[07:33] <linux4all> Agent_bob i just remve ntfs partion
[07:34] <john66251> The floppy icon dissappeared off the desktop .....
[07:34] <pdavid> what is the automounter service known as?
[07:34] <linux4all> tim 4 coffee
[07:34] <wastrel> Viking667:  there's some windows versions of open sourcesoftware provided on the ubuntu installer disk
[07:34] <Agent_bob> Zhadow pastebin your /etc/fstab for us
[07:34] <elPepo> please, How do I use PXE to install Ubuntu in some clients using the CD in my server? (without internet)
[07:34] <john66251> so I can't back anything up ....
[07:34] <eobanb> john66251, so you have a floppy disk in your drive, but it's not appearing?
[07:34] <linux4all> my typing iz getng baad
[07:34] <Zhadow> sure thing
[07:34] <wastrel> Viking667:  er, on the livecd i mean...  not sure about the installer
[07:34] <Zhadow> stand by
[07:34] <ntense> i know this is ubuntu chat and all.. but quick question that i should know the answer to
[07:34] <linux4all> ?
[07:34] <ntense> .doc is a works file right?
[07:34] <eobanb> ntense, this is a support channel; ask away
[07:35] <Viking667> wastrel: Windows versions aren't much good to a machine without Windows
[07:35] <john66251> yes UDI is not a mountable volume is the error message
[07:35] <eobanb> no, ntense
[07:35] <eobanb> works is a .wps
[07:35] <ntense> but open office will open .doc files right?
[07:35] <eobanb> .doc is microsoft word
[07:35] <eobanb> ntense, yes.  and so will abiword
[07:35] <Agent_bob> ted
[07:35] <ntense> thanks
[07:35] <thomas`> anyone get the 3ddesktop thing working/
[07:35] <thomas`> compiz xgl stuff?
[07:36] <wastrel> Viking667:  yeah - on the livecd it's so you can "try before you buy"  - get used to some opensource apps before you install ubu... maybe the installer disk has some windows sw too... not sure :] 
[07:36] <eobanb> thomas`, that is a topic for #ubuntu+1
[07:36] <john66251> I need to remount fdo ..... so I need to edit something ... can't remember
[07:36] <eobanb> john66251, open a terminal and do: sudo mount /dev/fd0
[07:36] <john66251> thanks
[07:36] <thomas`> so u cant use that 3d desktop tech in 5.10 ubuntu huh?
[07:36] <eobanb> thomas`, no.
[07:36] <thomas`> oh ok thought so
[07:37] <linux4all> dapper only i think
[07:37] <linux4all> 6.10
[07:37] <eobanb> thomas`, it's been done fairly easily on 6.04, dapper, but not on 5.10
[07:37] <thomas`> im gonna wait on final build
[07:37] <linux4all> me to
[07:37] <thomas`> of dapper
[07:37] <eobanb> linux4all, dapper is 6.04, not 6.10
[07:37] <Agent_bob> 6.10 != dapper
[07:37] <linux4all> oh ya :)
[07:38] <thomas`> so whens final come out?
[07:38] <linux4all> cant wait for april to get here
[07:38] <thomas`> april gotcha
[07:38] <thomas`> man im so tired
[07:38] <Agent_bob> 4/6
[07:38] <thomas`> i toked up all day
[07:38] <thomas`> dont got any soda
[07:38] <thomas`> mouth is very dry spitting foam. sucks im gonna go get some 2 liters.
[07:39] <linux4all> i wish they still made surge
[07:39] <eobanb> year.month
[07:39] <eobanb> 6.04
[07:39] <eobanb> get it?
[07:39] <linux4all> yep
[07:39] <linux4all> got it
[07:39] <eobanb> linux4all, if you like surge you might enjoy a rather new drink called Vault..
[07:39] <eobanb> it's pretty much surge re-named.
[07:39] <tristanmike> thomas`, H2O
[07:39] <Xaero> which is a heaver desktop... Gnome or KDE? Which has a bigger memory footprint?
[07:39] <eobanb> also, they still sell surge in finland.
[07:39] <wastrel> ah april 20 i was thinking march 20.  /me confused
[07:39] <eobanb> or was it sweden..
[07:39] <Viking667> took me a little time to figure that one out too... Actually I cottoned on when I saw the dates.
[07:39] <linux4all> tried it, but mt.dew;s mdx tast morre like surge
[07:39] <eobanb> well, that's for ubuntu-offtopic :D
[07:39] <ntense> what ever happened to crystal clear pepsi?
[07:39] <Viking667> Xaero: kde, by far.
[07:40] <eobanb> linux4all, indeed.
[07:40] <linux4all> went inviable
[07:40] <Agent_bob> Xaero they say kde now days   a few years ago i would have to have said gnome eat mo' memory
[07:41] <thomas`> i dont drink fossit water
[07:41] <thomas`> =p
[07:41] <Xaero> ok i see
[07:41] <john66251> it says "you must specify the filesystem type" AHHHHH!!!!!!!!
[07:41] <callipygous> oh no!!
[07:41] <linux4all> ouch
[07:41] <linux4all> qparted will fix it
[07:41] <Agent_bob> prolly means the dev is not ther
[07:41] <eobanb> no problem, john66251.  just do sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0
[07:41] <eobanb> and see if that works.
[07:41] <thomas`> could i check out kde if i wanted to?
[07:41] <john66251> thanks again!!!!
[07:42] <thomas`> is kde better than gnome?
[07:42] <linux4all> its a choich thing, not one is better
[07:42] <Agent_bob> prolly means the dev is not thar eobanb
[07:42] <eobanb> thomas`, you can install both at the same time.  whether one is better than the other is completely subjective.
[07:42] <nickrud> john66251, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[07:42] <eobanb> Agent_bob, not necessarily.
[07:42] <linux4all> apt-get install kde
[07:42] <thomas`> yea id have to expericen it for ymself
[07:42] <Agent_bob> !start a desktop war
[07:42] <ubotu> Agent_bob: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:42] <thomas`> so i can have both on at once
[07:42] <eobanb> linux4all, no, actually, he'd want to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <thomas`> gonna have to stop gnome im sure
[07:42] <Agent_bob> yup
[07:42] <thomas`> then start kde
[07:43] <john66251> thanks for that ...... ain't it good to have friends!!!!
[07:43] <linux4all> sorry, used to knoppix
[07:43] <elPepo> please, How do I use PXE to install Ubuntu in some clients using the CD in my server? (without internet)
[07:43] <eobanb> john66251, did it work?
[07:43] <eobanb> elPepo, i don't believe that is possible.
[07:43] <eobanb> elPepo, can you use the CD in the clients' drives?
[07:44] <thomas`> if i dont want it what do i type to uninstall it?
[07:44] <john66251> no didn't work - just gave me a lot of guff about options
[07:44] <linux4all> format :)
[07:44] <thomas`> what
[07:44] <thomas`> ?
[07:44] <thomas`> i dont awnt to do any of that..
[07:44] <Agent_bob> if you had to add type on a flopy disk something is bad wrong.... i bet ya my bet ya against your bet ya, that udev made the device node while mount was trying to access it....
[07:44] <elPepo> no, If I wanna install in the same time I need one disc for each client
[07:44] <linux4all> apt-get -r kubuntu-desktop i think
[07:44] <thomas`> im using ubuntu tho
[07:45] <thomas`> i closed
[07:45] <john66251> I will check the forum that nickrud gave - thanks
[07:45] <callipygous> hmm, this distro appears to have been made by a bunch of hippies who had just finished singing coombya in a drum  circle, realised they were out of pot, and decided to start their own linux
[07:45] <eobanb> Agent_bob, i have had perfectly normal floppy disks not mount without specifying the FS type.
[07:45] <eobanb> callipygous, if you have nothing interesting to say, please leave.
[07:46] <callipygous> that was interesting
[07:46] <callipygous> and interesting observation
[07:46] <john66251> The icon was always on the desktop - then it disappeared and now I get an error trying to access it...
[07:46] <linux4all> thomas: get kubuntu live cd to try instaed of haveing t install and then mabey latter remove
[07:46] <eobanb> callipygous, this part of the linux community thrives on respect to others.  if you can't understand that, you have no place here.
[07:46] <Agent_bob> eobanb i never have.   but i have had them fail on the first attempt and succeed on the second without changing one letter on the commandline,   and at the same time watched udev make the device node.
[07:47] <callipygous> I can't stand this hippie talk, I wanted an OS not a hippie commune!
[07:47] <linux4all> its been a long while sence ive used knoppix my self
[07:48] <john66251> I just want a system that works without me having to become a programmer .....
[07:48] <Agent_bob> eobanb i'm not saying it can't happen.    but the autofs detection in mount is pretty good.
[07:48] <thomas`> i closed it out
[07:48] <thomas`> cuz i wouldnt know if i waqs gonna be able to get kde off
[07:48] <thomas`> once i get it
[07:48] <thomas`> ppl tryna set me up for disaster im a linux newb
[07:48] <thomas`> lol
[07:48] <linux4all> what dont kill u makes you stronger :)
[07:49] <thomas`> i dont wanna kill myself yet
[07:49] <Viking667> oh. Darn. I forgot something anyhow. 8-(  openoffice.org-common
[07:49] <Viking667> 23MB - blech.
[07:49] <Madpilot> callipygous, it's a damn fine OS. If you "can't stand this hippie talk", perhaps you should find a different OS...
[07:49] <john66251> How do I edit FSTAB??? is that what I need to edit???
[07:49] <thomas`> not untill it gets closer to dapper rls date
[07:49] <thomas`> lol
[07:49] <linux4all> get the live cd
[07:49] <Agent_bob> callipygous billy G$ would love to sell ya an "os"   hehhe
[07:49] <eobanb> john66251, the location of the file is /etc/fstab, so you could edit it with sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:49] <linux4all> winblows xp?
[07:49] <wastrel> hm - is there a way to pull the text out of a pdf?  like catdoc
[07:49] <thomas`> im trying to think if i have anymore questions
[07:49] <ntense> so whats the best "buntu" for an old lapttop??
[07:49] <callipygous> id get windows
[07:49] <thomas`> id like to play some games on my windows drives there windows games
[07:50] <callipygous> if it didn't feel like a bad acid trip
[07:50] <john66251> I'll try that as I think the drives are confused...
[07:50] <pdavid> ntense: xubuntu!
[07:50] <thomas`> i wonder ifi can port them over to linux i have got apps to run in wine windoz appz
[07:50] <callipygous> talking paperclips and puppies....
[07:50] <callipygous> and a million loud beeps and chimes
[07:50] <ntense> i have kubuntu.. and its pretty.. but most of the times its slow
[07:50] <callipygous> that would do my head in
[07:50] <pdavid> ntense: Xubuntu
[07:50] <linux4all> thomas : they got progs out there that will let you play them
[07:50] <ntense> xubuntu? that uses the xfce UI?
[07:50] <callipygous> is there a Wubuntu yet?
[07:50] <linux4all> xubuntu: no wm?
[07:50] <pdavid> ntense: yeppers
[07:50] <thomas`> really name some i want whatever has the best compatibility
[07:50] <callipygous> if not...what are you doing?
[07:50] <thomas`> whatever is the most popular
[07:51] <pdavid> xubuntu uses xfce-wm
[07:51] <callipygous> stop singing coombya and get me a WindowMaker based ubuntu!
[07:51] <linux4all> celda, wine...do a google search
[07:51] <wastrel> callipygous:  sudo apt-get install wmaker
[07:51] <Agent_bob> Zhadow if you ever posted a url to that pastebin i must have missed it.
[07:51] <cello_rasp> i think an fvwm ubuntu has a lot of potential
[07:52] <Zhadow> ok if i give you thre number will that work?   or should i post again?
[07:52] <callipygous> but isn't ubuntu owned by a billionaire?
[07:52] <linux4all> theres a lot out there..and some one said win4lin on here last night
[07:52] <pdavid> callipygous: if you wanna troll, then do it somewhere else already
[07:52] <linux4all> i dont think he really owns it.
[07:52] <Viking667> callipygous: huh? Never heard of that. I thought *I* owned it.
[07:52] <linux4all> we own it
[07:52] <pdavid> don't feed the trolls
[07:52] <Viking667> And I'm no billionaire
[07:52] <Madpilot> callipygous, funded by, not owned by. Very important difference
[07:53] <ntense> troll? where?
[07:53] <````bulldogg> I need someone to come shoot my machine
[07:53] <linux4all> behind you
[07:53] <cello_rasp> hey everybody give me money
[07:53] <Viking667> ntense: under thebridge, ofcourse
[07:53] <Agent_bob> Zhadow you do know how pastebin works dont you?
[07:53] <linux4all> cello_rasp sorry only linux users here
[07:53] <Agent_bob> !paste
[07:53] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:54] <Zhadow> possibly not
[07:54] <ntense> im guilty of owning a winslows partition
[07:54] <nickrud> ````bulldogg, a man of character will put his own machine out of it's misery
[07:54] <Zhadow> :(
[07:54] <john66251> it says /dev/fd0   /media/floppy0 auto   rw,user,noauto   .... sound right???
[07:54] <callipygous> but how is another linux distro going to change the world?
[07:54] <Zhadow> i was just poting stuff in there.....then grabbing thre url......and giving that to you
[07:54] <pdavid> don't feed the trolls
[07:54] <eobanb> john66251, that sounds right to me.
[07:54] <cello_rasp> by working
[07:54] <Agent_bob> you go to   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and paste the text   hit enter and then give us the url
[07:54] <nickrud> john66251, if I had a floppy, I try to help more :)
[07:54] <Agent_bob> you go to   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and paste the text   hit enter and then give us the url Zhadow
[07:55] <````bulldogg> I have used all of the howto's provided here and ones I have found to get my x700 pro go work... still no joy.... no 3D acceleration can only run mesa driver
[07:55] <linux4all> by being better then the last...why does windows keep upgreading?
[07:55] <Zhadow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9949   thats the url..........not 100% sure if that is what you are looking for
[07:55] <cello_rasp> callipygous: how are you goign to change the world?
[07:55] <Agent_bob> ok looking Zhadow
[07:55] <Zhadow> thx!
[07:55] <callipygous> oh no you don't!
[07:56] <callipygous> trying to change the question around like that
[07:56] <callipygous> cheeky aren't ya?
[07:56] <linux4all> i wonder if bill dreams about tux
[07:56] <callipygous> i doubt it
[07:56] <````bulldogg> in his nightmares maybe
[07:56] <callipygous> linux is not threat
[07:56] <linux4all> in the server area it is
[07:56] <cello_rasp> it very much is, especially in the server business
[07:56] <Agent_bob> ok Zhadow and the results of   cat /etc/fstab  ?
[07:56] <callipygous> for high end servers i think FreeBSD would be more of a threat
[07:57] <ntense> i bet the microsoft website is run off a BSD server
[07:57] <cello_rasp> its noticably cutting into sales
[07:57] <linux4all> :)
[07:57] <wastrel> windowmaker is a decent wm, i used it for several years
[07:57] <````bulldogg> I would say linux is a threat in all areana's they just need to make it a little more idiot proof... so the average idiot can run it
[07:57] <cello_rasp> and thats what ubuntu is for
[07:57] <callipygous> no, not idiot prof
[07:57] <ntense> average idiot here
[07:57] <callipygous> they need to actually pull their finger out, stop giving users so much 'choice' , I mean, how many distros are there?
[07:57] <Agent_bob> make it idiot prof and they will make a better idiot
[07:57] <linux4all> thats why i went to linux.. ill never learn it all
[07:58] <Zhadow> haha
[07:58] <cello_rasp> nothing is idiot proof, as evidenced by callipygous posting in this channel
[07:58] <ntense> LOL bob
[07:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dude - you would not believe the range of idiots that make up that average
[07:58] <````bulldogg> lol
[07:58] <ntense> yea.. me too
[07:58] <````bulldogg> lol
[07:58] <nickrud> callipygous, I hate feeding trolls, but just which 'they' need to pull out their finger?
[07:58] <callipygous> and actually get hardware to work
[07:58] <callipygous> acpi - doesn't work properly
[07:58] <ntense> i like linux because i have to learn shit
[07:58] <callipygous> lots of webcams don't work
[07:58] <cello_rasp> callipopuloars: tell it to the hardware manufacturers that dont supply driver info
[07:58] <linux4all> or wirless
[07:58] <eobanb> callipygous, that's because the hardware isn't documented properly.
[07:59] <callipygous> well it could be documented properly
[07:59] <Agent_bob> Zhadow please pastebin the results of   cat /etc/fstab
[07:59] <````bulldogg> again thats your manufactures not releasing specs
[07:59] <callipygous> and linux will have to havae drivers
[07:59] <eobanb> callipygous, then go take it up with the manufacturers.
[07:59] <wastrel> this is a support channel.  philosophical discussions, OS wars and other idle chitchat belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:59] <callipygous> or its own hardware
[07:59] <cello_rasp> wastrel: hear hear
[07:59] <nickrud> so, callipygous it's not linux for those things, but the proprietary hardware
[07:59] <nickrud> done
[07:59] <callipygous> and yes, i feel an idiot talking in here mysel :)
[07:59] <eobanb> ^---what wastrel said
[07:59] <john66251> in Disk manager the floppy drive appears as a CD rom and the floppy icon is there twice .... how do I edit that???
[07:59] <cello_rasp> good riddance
[08:00] <cello_rasp> john66251: go to /media/ ?
[08:00] <linux4all> boy sure did get quit
[08:00] <linux4all> quiet
[08:00] <john66251> cello - what do I type at the command prompt???
[08:00] <cello_rasp> john66251: if you right-lcik the icon you should be able to "unmount" it
[08:00] <eobanb> lesson: don't feed the trolls, and they'll go elsewhere.
[08:01] <Agent_bob> it sure did get 'quit'       classic :)
[08:01] <linux4all> i know :P
[08:01] <````bulldogg> can anyone message me that has expierence with an ATI Radeon x700 Pro PCIe
[08:01] <Razor-SHARP> ati!
[08:01] <cello_rasp> john66251: to see what is in your /medai/ direcroty, type cd /media/
[08:01] <cello_rasp> john66251: ls
[08:01] <eobanb> ````bulldogg, i suspect that ati hasn't released any drivers for that card at all yet.
[08:01] <john66251> can't right click...
[08:01] <linux4all> ?
[08:01] <````bulldogg> they have... I just can't get it to work
[08:01] <Razor-SHARP> where do i find support for ati graphis cards?
[08:01] <Agent_bob> !ubot tell ````bulldogg about ati
[08:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob
[08:02] <Madpilot> !tell ````bulldogg about ati
[08:02] <cello_rasp> john66251: are you using gnome or kde?
[08:02] <````bulldogg> yeah well I tried that... it didn't work
[08:02] <Agent_bob> it's the nick
[08:02] <Agent_bob> !ubot tell \`\`\`\`bulldogg about ati
[08:02] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob
[08:02] <Razor-SHARP> ohh wait i mean sound blaster live!
[08:02] <Agent_bob> hehhe well
[08:03] <cyphase> can someone post the latest Browser Home Page in Dapper
[08:03] <john66251> knome here ... it says floppy0
[08:03] <linux4all> lsmod
[08:03] <Agent_bob> !ubotu tell ````bulldogg about ati
[08:03] <Agent_bob> it was the nick
[08:03] <Agent_bob> wrong nick.
[08:04] <jetscreamer> try !tell
[08:04] <Zhadow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9950 has cat /etc/fstab
[08:04] <eobanb> !ati
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:04] <Agent_bob> jetscreamer it worked.
[08:05] <cello_rasp> john66521: using stable? i think this may be a questino better put to the ubuntu forums with pictures and output included. in the mean time it may be that your fstab file has mount details for the floppy, cdrom in some strange way.
[08:05] <john66251> cello - it seems right although the HD is not listed there....
[08:05] <Agent_bob> i left the u off of ubot"U"   in the first attempt.....
[08:05] <cello_rasp> john66521: the HD is / :)
[08:06] <cello_rasp> it is strange that stable woudl act in such a  way
[08:06] <Viking667> meh. libcurl3 wants libssl0.9.8.
[08:06] <frank23> a script in a downloaded program gives me    bash: ./node.sh: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory   any ideas?
[08:07] <cello_rasp> fran23 check out the README or INSTALL files and confirm you have all requirements
[08:07] <Neko_Freak> How do I get Frostwire installed from the .deb file?
[08:07] <Zhadow> hey guys, should i use ext3 or ext2 or something completely different for a slave hd?
[08:08] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: deb install file.deb .... i think
[08:08] <highvolt1ge> dpkg -i file.deb
[08:08] <cello_rasp> Zhadow: ext3. it will save you some headaches.
[08:08] <Zhadow> k thanx
[08:08] <frank23> cello_rasp: I know I have everything I need. the problem seems to be that it doesnt recognise my /bin/sh
[08:08] <Viking667> I won't recommend XFS... it's eaten data on me
[08:08] <Misnix> frank23, remove the ^M 's from the end of the lines
[08:09] <Viking667> Misnix: neat macro/script for that: cat file | tr -d '\015' > outfile
[08:09] <Agent_bob> Zhadow you need to " gksudo gedit /etc/fstab "    and change  the line  ' /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 '   to    ' /dev/hdb1 /$*$ ext3 defaults 0 0 '     where   $*$   is the directory you want it to mount on,     i.e.  substitute $*$   for something like    /mnt/disk     or   /var   or   /home     or where ever you want to mount it.
[08:09] <cello_rasp> i have an ext3 slave mounted to /home in case the root drive dies :)
[08:09] <frank23> Misnix: that's what I though but was is a ^M?
[08:09] <Agent_bob> Zhadow    ^
[08:09] <Zhadow> ok i will give that try, thanx so much Agent_bob
[08:10] <linux4all> going to bed have a good night
[08:10] <frank23> Misnix: and how do I do that?
[08:10] <Agent_bob> np
[08:10] <Viking667> frank23: ^M is line terminator along with ^J in MS-DOS and Windows
[08:10] <Misnix> frank23, different end of lines in m$ and linux/unix,
[08:10] <wastrel> frank23:  dos2unix <filename>
[08:10] <Viking667> Unix/Linux just uses ^J
[08:10] <frank23> wastrel: ok thanks.
[08:11] <Agent_bob> mac uses ^M
[08:12] <Neko_Freak> bah...it said no file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: Frostwire-4.10.5-0.i56.deb
[08:12] <frank23> wastrel: um I don't have dos2unix
[08:13] <Agent_bob> frank23 install it
[08:13] <Misnix> frank23, or use an editor
[08:13] <wastrel> sorry, dos2unix is in the sysutils package
[08:13] <frank23> ok I figured how to make kate change the endlines
[08:13] <Misnix> frank23 in vi: s/	 Inkscape is an Open Source vector graphics editor
[08:13] <Misnix> Gimp 	GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program
[08:13] <Misnix> gcolor2 	gcolor2 is a simple color selector
[08:13] <Misnix> Gnome Colorscheme 	Gnome Coloscheme allows you to generate a variety of colorschemes
[08:13] <Misnix> Gnome Screen Ruler 	Gnome Screen Ruler
[08:13] <Misnix> XNest 	Xnest - a nested X server
[08:13] <Misnix> Bluefish 	Bluefish is a powerful web editor
[08:14] <Viking667> Misnix: that could be more trouble than it's worth.
[08:14] <eobanb> please do not flood..
[08:14] <Misnix> ahhh
[08:14] <eobanb> !paste
[08:14] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:15] <Zhadow> ok Agent_bob   i did what you said...it looks like it chaged some things, i will find a way to test it out and let you know how it went.....thanx!
[08:15] <Misnix> frank23, in an editor: %s/^M//   (don't do that in m$ or you'll flood :-] )
[08:15] <Spliffster> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[08:15] <Neko_Freak> cello_rasp it said no file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: Frostwire-4.10.5-0.i56.deb
[08:15] <frank23> Misnix: I fixed it with kate
[08:15] <Spliffster> what was that nifty tool called again to update to dapper ?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> Misnix: please do not flood, or you will be kicked and/or banned
[08:15] <Hobbsee> !tell Spliffster about upgrade
[08:15] <Spliffster> ty
[08:16] <Misnix> Viking667, learning to use an editor is never more trouble than it's worth
[08:16] <Agent_bob> ted
[08:16] <Misnix> francis, ok
[08:17] <Agent_bob> Misnix what about  jed ?
[08:17] <Viking667> Misnix: learning is sometimes more frustrating than most people want to be bothered with. I learned vim, but by goodness I paid for it.
[08:17] <Mars^> Hi i have a question. Can i set the password for a one directory on kubuntu?
[08:17] <Viking667> Now of course, I love it.
[08:18] <Mars^> ?
[08:18] <Viking667> dunno
[08:18] <Agent_bob> you talking about encripted fs ?
[08:19] <Mars^> no
[08:19] <Misnix> Agent_bob I don't know jed, point was learning any decent editor should do. and vi is nearly always around.
[08:19] <Agent_bob> key word "decent"  :)
[08:19] <Misnix> Agent_bob, are you planning on a flame war against vi? :-p
[08:20] <Viking667> Given the choice between vim, emacs, jed, pico/nano and mcedit, I'd rate vim and emacs nearly equal, jed a bit behind, and the rest back a bit.
[08:20] <Neko_Freak> Any1 know how to install Frostwire in a deb file from desktop?
[08:20] <propagandhi> Mars^: you can create another user or group that has complete ownership of that folder
[08:20] <DoctorLondom> Hey, I'm having some ALSA issues on Ubuntu 5.10. Can anyone lend a hand?
[08:20] <propagandhi> Mars^: but root can still change it
[08:20] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[08:20] <Zhadow> agent_bob it seems to have worked, but when i run sudo mount dev/hdb1  it says mount point /mnt/disk does not exist
[08:20] <propagandhi> woops
[08:21] <Agent_bob>  misnix    you totally misapplied what i posted.    in referance to jed "not vi"     jed is the unix implimentation of the ms doe edit command.
[08:21] <propagandhi> he's already gone
[08:21] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, if it has a graphical installer replace "sudo" with "gksudo"
[08:21] <Agent_bob> Zhadow sudo mkdir /mnt/disk
[08:21] <Zhadow> thx!
[08:21] <Agent_bob> and try again.
[08:21] <Viking667> Agent_bob: huh? Not on MY machine. It's an emacs-like editor here.
[08:21] <Misnix> Agent_bob eww, but ok. I used to install vi on msdos first thing
[08:22] <Agent_bob> Viking667 jed is ?
[08:22] <vladuz976> can i just uninstall gdm with apt-get if i don't like it? does it take a lot of dependencies with it?
[08:22] <Zhadow> It looks like it worked!!!!! 177 GB free!!    thanx so much Agent_bob !!!!!!!!!
[08:22] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike it said need action option
[08:23] <nadia007> any one running wireless card with WAP?
[08:23] <frank23> vladuz976: do you have kdm or something to replace it with?
[08:23] <Agent_bob> np Zhadow   and you should never have to mount it again.   it should be auto.
[08:23] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, what is it that you're trying to install?
[08:23] <Zhadow> great!
[08:23] <Neko_Freak> Frostwire
[08:23] <vladuz976> frank23: no, i just want startx or maybe entrance from e17
[08:23] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, sorry, did you happen to use the " that I had there ?
[08:23] <jetscreamer> no it just takes gdm-themes with it iirc
[08:23] <wastrel> vladuz976:  you can just remove it-  only dep i think will be ubuntu-desktop, which is a wrapper package you don't need
[08:23] <Neko_Freak> yes
[08:23] <jetscreamer> but imo gdm is the best out of the bunch
[08:24] <Neko_Freak> i tried it before
[08:24] <Xaero> interesting take this test and it will help u decide what linux distro is right for you!
[08:24] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, sorry, that was my bad, what I meant was to put another at the end, ignore the "
[08:24] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, so it's just    sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[08:25] <Xaero> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
[08:25] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, do i need the <> signs?
[08:25] <vladuz976> jetscreamer: what eles have you tried?
[08:25] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, no
[08:25] <jetscreamer> kdm and xdm
[08:25] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, usually if you see someone write that here, it mean "what's inside" same with the quotes
[08:25] <tristanmike> but I messed that one up, need tea....
[08:25] <Xaero> I took the test and I got these results
[08:25] <jetscreamer> the fonts change, also, depending on which one you use... and i mean after you log in.
[08:26] <Xaero> 1) Kubuntu
[08:26] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, it said cannot access archive no such file or directory
[08:26] <Xaero> 2) Mandriva
[08:26] <Xaero> 3) SuSE
[08:26] <jetscreamer> but that's not in gnome or kde
[08:26] <Xaero> 4) Ubuntu
[08:26] <Agent_bob> Neko_Freak rule of thumb,  unless a redirection is specified    <flie.ext>   means put your  file name there.
[08:26] <Xaero> heh
[08:26] <Paras> folks... need some help.... where can i find the package for skype for my breezy?
[08:26] <wastrel> !tell paras about skype
[08:27] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, sorry, maybe I assumed too much, type the following (you said the file was on your Desktop?)  cd ~/Desktop
[08:27] <chuckyp> test
[08:27] <chuckyp> wow split windows works
[08:27] <tyler> any way for me to click in mc a file and get it fired up as root? seems im not able to do it as root, but ablt to as user!
[08:27] <Agent_bob> of course it works
[08:27] <heyjoe2> my desktop has suddenly disappeared. im finding ubuntu-breezy to be very buggy. argh. any known fixes?
[08:28] <heyjoe2> mainly whenever a usb or media file is involved
[08:28] <Agent_bob> tyler if i understand you correctly  you are running mc as root and some function is not working,  is that correct ?
[08:29] <chuckyp> If I try to switch to opengl in counterstrike I get choosepixel format failed?  I know opengl is installed and working just wondering if anyone knows of this problem?
[08:29] <tyler> Agent_bob, u r absolutely right!
[08:29] <tyler> can u help me pls?
[08:29] <kristopher> This is a stupid question, but where is my directory for Apache2?
[08:30] <ntense> the only stupid question is the one you dont ask
[08:30] <Agent_bob> tyler try   sudo rm -rf /root/.mc      and restart it.
[08:30] <chuckyp> kristopher: which directory are you looking for where to put pages?
[08:30] <tyler> as root or user?
[08:30] <kristopher> yes
[08:30] <Agent_bob>    the sudo  will make the command root
[08:30] <chuckyp> kristopher: typically uses /var/www but I would check your config to make sure.
[08:31] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, how we doing there?
[08:31] <kristopher> okay, thanks
[08:31] <Agent_bob> tyler   hehhe    as root
[08:31] <Neko_Freak> gimme a sec
[08:31] <kristopher> chucky, you're here a lot!
[08:31] <chuckyp> kristopher: and the config would be in /etc/apache2 something or other.
[08:31] <tyler> Agent_bob,  but i must type it as root?
[08:31] <kristopher> you should get paid lol
[08:31] <chuckyp> kristopher: I'm here every once in a while.
[08:31] <Agent_bob> tyler no
[08:31] <kristopher> we most likely have similar schedules
[08:31] <Agent_bob> tyler if you type it as root leave the   sudo  off
[08:32] <tyler>  sudo rm -rf /root/.mc as user?, right?
[08:32] <Agent_bob> yep
[08:32] <Viking667> whoops - sorry.
[08:32] <kdean06> ANyone have any ideas what would cause ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 6068, errno = 0
[08:33] <Viking667> Agent_bob: on my machine, it behaves like an editor that has emacs-like sequences.
[08:33] <tyler> Agent_bob, dopnt mind me asking, what does the xcommand do?
[08:33] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, I got it to work finally
[08:33] <Neko_Freak> i didnt need gksudo
[08:33] <Neko_Freak> just sudo
[08:33] <tyler> it asks me for a password?
[08:33] <Agent_bob> tyler it removes the configuration file for mc   that is root specific.
[08:34] <Agent_bob> yes type your password
[08:34] <tyler> it ask me for a passwd??
[08:34] <Neko_Freak> exit
[08:34] <Agent_bob> not root.
[08:34] <Agent_bob> yes type your password
[08:34] <Agent_bob> not root.
[08:34] <tyler> the root password?
[08:34] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, glad to hear. yeah, most times sudo is what you'll use, but in those rare cases where it has a graphical installer, (like Americas Army or Enemy territory) you should use gksudo or risk causing yourself headaches
[08:35] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, I'll keep that in mind
[08:35] <brownie17> for some reason the gaem "Barrage" from the repos won't work since i upgraded to breezy
[08:35] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, you wouldn't know about Steam and WINE would you?
[08:35] <tyler> what password should i key in.. i keyed in my user passwd n root password
[08:35] <tyler> both cannot
[08:35] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, no sir, I'm sorry I don't, I have never used wine...
[08:36] <Neko_Freak> tristanmike, mmk
[08:36] <heyjoe2> can anyone help me with setting up lame on audacity
[08:36] <heyjoe2> been having a few problems
[08:37] <Agent_bob> just run it as root.     root@localhost~] $ rm -fr /root/.mc
[08:38] <trude> hey can someone help me im trying to get my webcam working....
[08:39] <vladuz976> has anybody here have ubuntu running on an ibook?
[08:40] <tyler> Agent_bob, if i run sudo rm -rf /root/.mc as root, what does it do? and is it reversible? im a newbie.. if it screw my box im screwed!@
[08:41] <tristanmike> tyler, rm anything is not reversible, and adding sudo is insult to injury
[08:41] <tyler> is it?
[08:41] <tyler> >;
[08:41] <trude> hey does anyone know how to get a webcam working for videochat on msn???
[08:42] <tristanmike> tyler, that command removes the ".mc" directory and everything in it and it's forced as well, so if for some reason your computer doesn't want you to do it, it does it anyway
[08:42] <Agent_bob> tyler   rm -rf /root/.mc     is  remove recursively and forcably the directory /root/.mc      when you start mc again it will make the directory again,   but hopefully it wont have   root specific configuration this time....
[08:42] <brownie17> who here plays barrage?
[08:45] <Agent_bob> tyler i probably can't help you with this if that doesn't fix it.   your caution is very good, as far as protecting your system.    but it makes it impossable for a two minute help chat to affect any change to a system.    "i have never had to wory about sensitive data, and thus thrown caution to the wind"
[08:45] <Agent_bob> be back in a bit.
[08:45] <trude> can someone help me im trying to install the new version of amsn but it wont let me open the .deb file...it says that file type is not accepted
[08:45] <vladuz976> is it possible to get wireless with Airport extreme working on an ibook?
[08:47] <Madpilot> trude, open a terminal, cd to the directory you've got the deb in, and type "sudo dpkg -i <name of file.deb>"
[08:47] <digitaldoc> hey all
[08:48] <digitaldoc> im pretty new to ubuntu (first time running linux, and i've been running ubuntu for 2 days, just got wireless access today)
[08:48] <digitaldoc> just wanted to say hi
[08:49] <Madpilot> digitaldoc, welcome, good luck & have fun!
[08:49] <digitaldoc> thanks :-)
[08:50] <aroticoz> can anyone suggest me a graphical C++ editor and compiler
[08:50] <digitaldoc> i cant believe how much stuff comes bundled with ubuntu, i had to download very little to be up and running, its very nice :-)
[08:50] <thomas`> does anyone know the task gam_server
[08:50] <thomas`> and why its taking so much memory
[08:50] <thomas`> 524mb of virtual memory
[08:50] <Hobbsee> aroticoz: gedit should work, not sure about GUI for a compiler
[08:51] <aroticoz> ok, with gedit I can write the code, but with what and how do I compile it ?
[08:52] <teclis> aroticoz: which language?
[08:52] <aroticoz> C++
[08:53] <thomas`> does anyone know the task gam_server and hwy its using 500+MB of virtualmemory
[08:54] <teclis> aroticoz: try gcc
[08:54] <aroticoz> I have it installed, but how do I use it???
[08:55] <Misnix> thomas`, there's a bug in gam-server that makes it use so much memory, it's supposed to be fixed in the next ububntu, just restart it. run man gam-server to find out what it does and how to restart
[08:55] <digitaldoc> i dont suppose someone here could walk me through how to install and run kismet (i've got the download already)
[08:56] <teclis> aroticoz: have you tried something like: gcc -o myfile.cpp
[09:01] <digitaldoc> no kismet folks around i guess?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> What's the command to force blank the screen / turn the backlight off?
[09:03] <lex_> hello
[09:07] <ntense> where did everyone go?
[09:08] <callipygous> so... how many ubuntu's are there?
[09:08] <callipygous> ebunted, kbunted and xbunted?
[09:08] <ntense> ebuntu?
[09:08] <callipygous> i said e
[09:08] <Tomcat_> edubuntu
[09:08] <ntense> elaborate?
[09:08] <polpak> you know.... for kids..
[09:09] <ntense> and how does this differ from ubuntu?
[09:10] <Tomcat_> ntense: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[09:12] <Madpilot> ntense, ebuntu is an unofficial project w/ E17; Edubuntu is an official ubuntu-for-schools project
[09:12] <ntense> oh how i wish i could have grown up with linux
[09:12] <theeo123> I have a somewhat dumb question that may infact get me laughed at
[09:13] <Viking667> ntense: actually, I'm glad I *didn't* grow up with Linux...
[09:13] <ntense> the only dumb question is the question you dont ask
[09:13] <DJ_tobias> will any standard motherboard fit any tower ?
[09:13] <theeo123> is there a way to make nautulis or Gnome/ubuntu in general display fiel sizes in kib instead of Kb   this is based soley on personal prefrence
[09:13] <Viking667> DJ_tobias: not generally.
[09:13] <Misnix> dumb answers outnumber dumb questions by far
[09:14] <ntense> i have a dumb question
[09:14] <theeo123> <-- preparesto be ridiculed
[09:14] <Viking667> theeo123: not really sure of that one. Have you explored gconf-editor, underthe apps/nautilus key?
[09:14] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, if they're both standard ATX (or at least both built to the same spec) then yes
[09:14] <ntense> i have a laptop.. im using it now... i have kubuntu on it
[09:14] <theeo123> No I'm very very new to Linux
[09:14] <ntense> its a dell 600 mhz p3 with 128 ram
[09:14] <theeo123> like... I've been using it aobut 4 days now :)
[09:14] <ntense> shes old and dieing
[09:15] <CarinArr> heh
[09:15] <ntense> do yoiu thihnk it would benifit me to switch out to xbuntu?
[09:15] <CarinArr> and i'm pitying my 1700ghz p4m
[09:15] <CarinArr> ;)
[09:15] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot, here is the mobo... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517 and here is the case http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6857551770&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT think they will fit?
[09:15] <zerokarmaleft> ntense: xfce should run a bit better than kde with those specs
[09:16] <CarinArr> dj_tobias, it should say in the spec what size it is
[09:16] <ompaul> ntense, if dying get new hard drive and answer yes on spec
[09:16] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, google for specs on that case, it might be compatible, but who knows with Dell
[09:16] <zerokarmaleft> ntense: but with that much RAM i'd probably go with something even more lightweight than xfce
[09:16] <ntense> its not the hard drive
[09:17] <DJ_tobias> Dimensions 	12.0" x 9.6" thats for the mobo, but i cant find ANY towers with a width of 9.6 + !?
[09:17] <ntense> the  fan dosent work anymore and this thing gets so hot i can cook bacon on it
[09:17] <Viking667> blackbox/fluxbox...wmaker, maybe
[09:17] <Viking667> ntense: ewww. Get a fan dude.
[09:17] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, towers are deeper/taller than mobos are
[09:17] <ntense> maybe... its for a lappie tho.. wouldnt it be uber expensive?
[09:18] <ompaul> ntense, as Viking667 said
[09:18] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot, i know.. depth is how far back it goes, correct?
[09:18] <ompaul> ntense, ehh cheaper than a new lappy though
[09:18] <ompaul> ntense, they should not cost much
[09:18] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, yes, front-to-back - contact the EBay seller and ask if it's an ATX standard case
[09:18] <Viking667> I don't DARE run my K6-II without a fan... even with the heatsink on, it gets too hot.
[09:19] <tenmon> hi
[09:19] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot, k thanks
[09:19] <tenmon> what is the adviced way to install an Ubuntu i386 package in an Ubuntu 64 (breezy) ?
[09:19] <CarinArr> dj_tobias, if the motherboard has an ATX formfactor, you'd look for a case with ATX form factor etc
[09:19] <ntense> i thinkn im kinda waiting for this thing to die so i can justify buying a new one
[09:20] <ntense> can you run windowmaker on ubuntu?
[09:20] <Viking667> ntense: *sigh*
[09:20] <theeo123> Viking667, jsut went throguh it,  didn't see anythign  :9  It's not like it;s overly important, more of a curiosity/personal-preferance/novelty thign
[09:20] <theeo123> I'm not exactly goign to loose sleep over it *L*
[09:20] <Viking667> ah huh.
[09:20] <ntense> ah.. did i reach my stupid question quota for the day?
[09:20] <tenmon> hello ?
[09:20] <DJ_tobias> CarinArr, yea, im just trying to figure out if the case is ATX, gonna email the seller
[09:20] <Viking667> that wasn't a stupid question.
[09:21] <tenmon> what is the adviced way to install an Ubuntu i386 package in an Ubuntu 64 (breezy)?
[09:21] <phiber_optic> hi i just reinstalled windows and my grub got erased :(
[09:21] <phiber_optic> anyone can help me how to get it back.. im in the live cd right no
[09:22] <Munkii> This is probably a stupid question, but... I installed ubuntu, but I dont ever remember being asked for a root password.  Now I cant install things because I dont know my root password :(  Is there a solution to this, or do I need to reinstall?
[09:22] <phiber_optic> Munkii,  type sudo and ur passwd
[09:22] <theeo123> Viking667,  thanks for hte hlep anyway, I never knew about the gconf-editor, so at least I learned somthing new eh?  :)
[09:23] <Munkii> thanks
[09:23] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:23] <ompaul> ntense, who knows about the quota, I know it exists in the repos (check out with apt-cache search windowmaker - leads to wmaker, then apt-cache policy wmaker leads to universe repos and apt-cache show wmaker tells you it is what you thought it was and more besides)
[09:23] <Viking667> theeo123: just be REALLY careful with that, eh.
[09:23] <Sp4rKy> how could i get a swf movie which is on a website ?
[09:23] <alumno>  /server irc.gamersx.com.ar:6667
[09:24] <alumno> sorry
[09:24] <Viking667> Sp4rKy: how about wget?
[09:24] <Munkii> phiber_optic, it then asks for another password?
[09:24] <theeo123> Viking667, I will. I knew my way in & out of the Win-registry pretty well,  Id like to think myself an "advanced" computer user by most standard, jsut never had any experience with Linux,  Been getting ito shit I'm not suppsoed to since DOS 3.2
[09:24] <phiber_optic> its ur passwd
[09:24] <Viking667> Sp4rKy: the other option being render it in a browser with flash installed
[09:24] <Sp4rKy> Viking667, i've tried , but just download the link
[09:24] <Sp4rKy> I see it with firefox, but i want to donload it !
[09:24] <Viking667> Okay. I'm outta here.
[09:25] <Viking667> Right-click, choose "Save as"
[09:25] <Munkii> doesnt work for me... it says "cant find user <my pass>"
[09:25] <^Odd^> !sources
[09:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:25] <Viking667> The other problem you'll have is: once you have a swf file, how will you play it?
[09:25] <tenmon> Anyone with Ubuntu 64 here ?
[09:25] <Viking667> Night al.
[09:25] <theeo123> Sparky,  try going to firefoxes edit menue,  & select View Sourc,e it may tike some time, but dig throguh the HTML for the link to the SWF fiel ,then copy it into a download manager.
[09:25] <Viking667> theeo123: that too. *nod*
[09:26] <Sp4rKy> Viking667, yes, i want to play it after
[09:26] <Sp4rKy> i've made a right click, but just has "parameters" and "About" :/
[09:26] <theeo123> good luck with that part, on windows I know media player classic could play swf, ussinf ffdshow,  not sure hwat the linux equivilent would b,e  maybee VLC ?
[09:28] <tenmon> ok, so no one with 64 bits here?
[09:28] <osfameron> how do I convince Thunderbird it's not already open after it crashed?
[09:28] <osfameron> presumably there's a lockfile somewhere?
[09:28] <bz0b> anyone here use a mac with ubuntu?
[09:29] <Sp4rKy> Viking667 , i've flash installed !
[09:29] <theeo123> Are you sure it's dead? perhaps the talkback thread is still runing,  check "systme Monitor" to see if hte process realyl is dead ?
[09:29] <kristopher> Php5 and apache are installed (apache2-mod-php5 as well,) but apache2 doesn't parse PHP files
[09:29] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, firefox does that for you :-)
[09:29] <rie> allll
[09:29] <DJ_tobias> heh cool case... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?Mode=&Type=&Image=11-138-059-15.jpg%2C11-138-059-02.jpg%2C11-138-059-03.jpg%2C11-138-059-04.jpg%2C11-138-059-05.jpg%2C11-138-059-06.jpg%2C11-138-059-07.jpg%2C11-138-059-12.jpg%2C11-138-059-08.jpg%2C11-138-059-09.jpg%2C11-138-059-17.jpg%2C11-138-059-11.jpg%2C11-138-059-13.jpg%2C11-138-059-14.jpg%2C11-138-059-16.jpg&CurImage=11-138-059-16.jpg&Description=DYNAPOWER+SuperBien+Black
[09:29] <DJ_tobias> +0.8mm+SECC+steel+ATX+Mid+Tower+Computer+Case+430W+Power+Supply+-+Retail
[09:29] <osfameron> theeo123: the laptop shutdown (due to overheating)  it's definitely dead... or really really diehard
[09:30] <Madpilot> DJ_tobias, next time use tinyurl or something, please
[09:30] <ompaul> !tell tenmon about chroot
[09:30] <theeo123> osfameron, yeah that's dead *L*
[09:30] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, I'll like ..
[09:30] <ntense> thats a nice case
[09:30] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, i use firefox ...
[09:30] <rob> that url sucks
[09:30] <DJ_tobias> Madpilot, yea im sorry about that
[09:30] <ntense> i like the big fuck off asus case
[09:30] <ompaul> DJ_tobias, its ehh a little like you should use tinyurl
[09:30] <osfameron> but it won't open because it claims the default profile is in use
[09:31] <ompaul> ntense, I like when people mind their language
[09:31] <osfameron> (just like thunderbird does due to the configuration in ubuntu being broken, when you click on a mailto link but already have it running)
[09:31] <ompaul> !CoC
[09:31] <ubotu> coc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:31] <kristopher> Php5 and apache are installed (apache2-mod-php5 as well,) but apache2 doesn't parse PHP files
[09:32] <Frogzoo> coc isn't a word I'd expect to see in a family friendly channel :p
[09:32] <kristopher> lol
[09:32] <ntense> sorry about that
[09:33] <bz0b> well i like my case too :-)
[09:33] <bz0b> http://tinyurl.com/mtbtd
[09:33] <ompaul> Frogzoo, CoC is code of conduct - . . . now what you typed or inferred shall we leave it there?
[09:33] <DJ_tobias> geez they have some crazy cases
[09:33] <ompaul> s/now/not
[09:34] <ompaul> DJ_tobias, if you want to post really long urls don't spam the channel use tinyurl.com to get there
[09:34] <DJ_tobias> ompaul, i know sorry it was a mistake
[09:34] <DJ_tobias> its late and im tired :) Wont happen again
[09:34] <DJ_tobias> bz0b, wow sweet case!
[09:34] <bz0b> thanks
[09:35] <bz0b> my friend owns the company, so it was a gift from him
[09:35] <DJ_tobias> how much was it?
[09:35] <bz0b> he owns nzxt, not newegg
[09:35] <bz0b> on newegg, they go for 180 dollars
[09:35] <DJ_tobias> is it ATX ?
[09:35] <bz0b> mid ATX
[09:35] <bz0b> with water cooling
[09:35] <theeo123> Here's my Case   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146003
[09:35] <bz0b> and a water cooler
[09:35] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:35] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:36] <bz0b> !don'tcare
[09:36] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bz0b
[09:36] <bz0b> :-)
[09:36] <bz0b> jk
[09:36] <DJ_tobias> bz0b, is this mobo 'mid-ATX' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517
[09:36] <DJ_tobias> ?
[09:36] <bz0b> mobo? or case?
[09:36] <bz0b> oh lol
[09:36] <bz0b> one se
[09:37] <DJ_tobias> 'form factor' ATX
[09:37] <bz0b> its atx, but it fits in a mid atx case
[09:37] <Aegir> theeo123, I hope that case isn't actually made of steel... Might be interesting when the power gets turned on
[09:37] <Sp4rKy> i haven't download my swf at all ...
[09:37] <bz0b> how ya like my mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136008
[09:37] <Sp4rKy> the url of the swf is http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=DtFLkA9zZtU
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> if anyone could try to donwload it ...
[09:38] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, did you ln -s the plugin?
[09:38] <bz0b> does it work for you?
[09:39] <DJ_tobias> pretty nice bz0b
[09:39] <bz0b> thanks
[09:39] <DJ_tobias> you have a dualcore cpu?
[09:39] <fek> moin
[09:39] <bz0b> yes
[09:39] <DJ_tobias> cool, is dualcore really as good as it sounds?
[09:39] <bz0b> fx-60
[09:39] <Madpilot> bz0b & DJ_tobias - take the hardware chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:40] <bz0b> kk lol, its over
[09:40] <Sp4rKy> Sp4rKy, my plugin works, i see the swf with firefox, but i want to get it to sea it later without internet ...
[09:40] <phiber_optic> does anybody know why I got cleanly unmounted... and then when going it said fail...
[09:40] <bz0b> im watching a video
[09:40] <phiber_optic> how can I fix that
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DJ_tobias: dualcore is most beneficial in multiuser environments
[09:40] <DJ_tobias> Frogzoo, im getting one this weekend :)
[09:40] <allisfree> any free game such as Warcraft, CS on linux
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DJ_tobias: nice for you *me turns green*
[09:41] <DJ_tobias> i will stop talking hardware now( didnt know i couldnt talk about that in here )
[09:41] <phiber_optic> allisfree americas army
[09:41] <phiber_optic> Madpilot do you know how can I fix the cleanly unmounted prob?
[09:42] <Madpilot> allisfree, Enemy Territory
[09:42] <Frogzoo> DJ_tobias: usually if the channel's slow, people can chat constructively about reasonably related issues - OT's only really an issue when it gets really busy
[09:42] <theeo123> Does anyone know of a "PDF-printer" for ubuntu?  I mena  I cna copy & paste stuff to open office, & then expor,t but that's both inconvienent, & in some cases painfully slow , bieng ablr to print direct to PDf would be nice.
[09:42] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, , my plugin works, i see the swf with firefox, but i want to get it to sea it later without internet ...
[09:42] <Madpilot> phiber_optic, no idea, sorry
[09:42] <bz0b> that p.swf is crazy!
[09:42] <ompaul> allisfree, go to www.linuxgames.com www.happypenguin.org games.linux.sk www.tuxgames.com and many others
[09:43] <bz0b> it reminds me of that crap sony is coming out with
[09:43] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, and how could i do so
[09:43] <ntense> what carp is sony coming  out with
[09:43] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, umm let me think
[09:43] <bz0b> one sec
[09:43] <Frogzoo> theeo123: you could just use pdf2ps
[09:44] <ompaul> allisfree, when you go there come back and see if there is a .deb of your game
[09:44] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, can you give me the link that is on the youtube web site
[09:44] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, wait one sec
[09:44] <allisfree> thx to all
[09:44] <theeo123> Frogzoo,  I'm assumign I can fidn that in synaptic?   how would i use it exaclty (I'm fairly new to linux)
[09:45] <ompaul> !tell theeo123 about repos
[09:45] <Frogzoo> theeo123: cat blah.pdf | pdf2ps | lpr
[09:45] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, the main link is " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVI6xw9Zph8 "
[09:45] <Arafangion> $ apt-cache search cups | grep pdf
[09:45] <Arafangion> cups-pdf - PDF printer for CUPS
[09:45] <polpak> Frogzoo: I don't think you understood what he wanted
[09:45] <Frogzoo> Arafangion wins
[09:46] <polpak> theeo123: he's looking for a way to publish pdf files I think
[09:46] <polpak> theeo123: w/o using open office
[09:46] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php
[09:46] <Frogzoo> polpak: not sure his request was so specific to validly infer what he wanted :)
[09:46] <theeo123> more or less to save web-pages as PDf with less hassle to be really specific,  I'll be loosing my net conection in a few days :(
[09:46] <polpak> theeo123: =(
[09:47] <theeo123> cutting & pasting entire pages to open office, so thaT ican export, tends to get rough if there's lots of images etc.
[09:47] <Arafangion> theeo123: These days, a number of programs that use the 'proper' printing systems in gnome and kde can produce pdf files via a psuedo-printer, but imho, cups really should have the functionality so that "traditional" code can also utilise it.
[09:47] <Arafangion> theeo123: The OpenOffice.org way will always be better, because it allows the possibility of having tables of contents, url's, etc.
[09:47] <Sp4rKy> bz0b, it seems to work
[09:47] <bz0b> k
[09:48] <ompaul> theeo123, if you have a PDF or a text file and everything is set up right just typing >> lp FileName.pdf << can do the trick on the command line
[09:50] <polpak> ompaul: I don't think you understood what he wanted either
[09:50] <bz0b> Sp4rKy, good
[09:50] <theeo123> for those familiar with Windows i used to use a program from sourceforge.net called "createpdf" to acomplish what i wanted.
[09:51] <theeo123> like siad cutting & pastign a few thousand word documant with multiple imagesi nto open office, tends to be messy, & hog system resources like nobodys buisness. it will work , but it's a pain
[09:51] <Frogzoo> polpak: if peeps don't get the answer they're looking for, it's up to them to rephrase the question
[09:52] <Guard] [an> hello, anyone tried the paragon ntfs module that provides full ntfs write support ??? does it work withouh breaking data ?
[09:52] <coyctecm> damn this gplflash is unstable
[09:53] <Madpilot> theeo123, cups-pdf will add an option to your print dialogues to "Print to PDF" instead of "Print to <your usual printer>"
[09:53] <polpak> theeo123: I believe if you use firefox as your browser you can choose to print to a file
[09:53] <ompaul> theeo123, do this in a terminal "apt-cache search pdf | less " and then in another terminal do this "apt-cache show one_of_the_file_names_from_other_window"
[09:53] <joevandyk> How stable is dapper these days?
[09:53] <ompaul> joevandyk, ask in the channel #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <Frogzoo> Guard] [an: Paragon seem to think so... o_O
[09:54] <ompaul> theeo123, you may find the info you want, I don't know of such a program
[09:54] <theeo123> Madpilot, how do I setpu cups-pdf  I isntalled in throguh synaptic, but didn't see any new options in the print dialogue
[09:54] <onei> theeo123, i know i kinda missed your opening question, but are you actually wanting to print anything physical, or just save the webpages to disk?
[09:54] <Madpilot> theeo123, I didn't do any setup, AFAIK it should just appear
[09:54] <theeo123> onei jsut to save the pages,
[09:55] <theeo123> Madpilot,  hmmm odd,  iperhaps i'll re-install it
[09:55] <Sp4rKy> bz0b , i've downloaded it . Last question , how could i open .flv :/
[09:55] <Madpilot> theeo123, you might have to restart cups (and no, I don't know how to do that myself) :P
[09:56] <theeo123> AHH wiat found it
[09:56] <Arafangion> You would also have to configure it.
[09:56] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: probly /etc/init.d/cups restart
[09:56] <theeo123> prefrences,  printe,r  new printer,  and now ther' a "pdf printeR" listed as well as my physical printer
[09:57] <Guard] [an> Frogzoo : yeah but i don't want to trash my 300gb ntfs hard drive :)
[09:57] <theeo123> But it still wants me to pick a driver ..... *scratches head**
[09:57] <Arafangion> theeo123: That'll be the cups-pdf driver.
[09:57] <zhaoyunsong> is there anyone use kylix
[09:57] <Arafangion> theeo123: And afaik, there may be a parameter which tells it where to save the pdf, as you no-longer have control. It's a relatively poor way of handing pdf files.
[09:58] <Madpilot> theeo123, try a regular print dialogue - in Firefox or wherever - and see if it lists them both
[09:58] <Frogzoo> Guard] [an: I'd suggest you read their testimonials - but you should be using backups regardless
[09:58] <onei> theeo123, there is an extension for firefox called Scrapbook that saves pages (and recursively too) to your local harddisk. Its doesnt create pdfs, but it allows you to view the saved pages in an offline mannor.
[09:58] <zhaoyunsong> is there anyone use kylix
[09:58] <Frogzoo> zhaoyunsong: no spamming, pls
[09:59] <zhaoyunsong> sorry
[09:59] <Arafangion> !tell zhaoyunsong about ask
[09:59] <Frogzoo> np
[09:59] <jonathan_> hello how are you all u
[09:59] <Frogzoo> OT OT OT OT :p
[10:00] <jonathan_> so anyone from ohio in here
[10:00] <Frogzoo> well thx jonathan_ , & you?
[10:00] <theeo123> oaky  multipel replies.  Mdpilot,  it dosn't list the pdf printer, in any print dialogs yet, but it does list it under" add new printer"  but it wants me to pick a driver for it & I'm not sure wich to choose,  onei  I'll check that out , is it on the standard firefox add-ons page?
[10:00] <Wharf> How can i gett gcc for ubuntu?
[10:00] <Guard] [an> Frogzoo : yeah, i also found this http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ , same question don't know how safe it is :)
[10:00] <mattafix> hi
[10:00] <Frogzoo> !buildessential
[10:00] <ubotu> Frogzoo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <Frogzoo> !build-essential
[10:00] <ubotu> methinks build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[10:00] <jonathan_> hey what's up
[10:00] <Frogzoo> !gcc
[10:00] <ubotu> I guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:01] <jonathan_> so anyone from ohio just wonder
[10:01] <mattafix> can you get flash with ubuntu
[10:01] <Wharf> so sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:01] <jonathan_> i just got this software tonight so yeah
[10:01] <Wharf> will do the trick
[10:01] <onei> theeo123, http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/ or just google "firefox scrapbook"
[10:01] <Frogzoo> !tell mattafix about restricted
[10:01] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:01] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:01] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:01] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:01] <Arafangion> Only 90%?
[10:01] <Frogzoo> Wharf: yup
[10:02] <ompaul> Arafangion, we are kind :)
[10:02] <Wharf> cool
[10:03] <theeo123> so right now ,I've got the printers dialogue open , if i double click "new printer" on of hte "detected" printers, is lsited as PDf printer,  but it dosn't show up in any print dialogues, and if I select it and move forward, it asks me to specify a driver...
[10:03] <Arafangion> ompaul: Tough Love.
[10:06] <marlun> Is it possible to somehow see whats new in the packages that "Software Updates" shows me?
[10:06] <marlun> like a changelog
[10:07] <lodder_> hallo
[10:08] <lodder_> can anybody help me installing the tool tovid
[10:08] <lodder_> becuase i added a new package repository for it bu i have errors about broken packages
[10:08] <Madpilot> marlun, yes, click on the package, there are notes in the bottom pane of the Update Manager
[10:09] <marlun> Madpilot, ah, fantastic, thanks! =)
[10:15] <marlun> Is gnome not able to do true transparency? If I change to transparent background in gnome-terminal, I see the background and not the application behind the terminal.
[10:16] <Arafangion> marlun: Limitation of X11.
[10:17] <marlun> Is there any work on getting true transparency?
[10:17] <Ragol> hi guys
[10:17] <Arafangion> marlun: It's a *fundamental* limitation of X11, but yes, there is work done to achieve true transparency, I _think_ xorg has some work in that area.
[10:17] <Kirth> Hi, i've tried to install Dapper 6.04 Amd64 but always freeze while installing xserver-xorg al 60% of install. Any idea?
[10:18] <Sp4rKy> how could i open a .flv file ?
[10:19] <Ragol> I have pentium D (double core) and I'm wondering if Ubuntu recognices it and can take an adwance of it
[10:20] <CarinArr> i would hate to see the other application behind my terminal
[10:21] <marlun> Arafangion, what about that new thing from sun (I think) xgl or something?
[10:21] <CarinArr> i mean i have the "transparent" terminals atm.. but i have to keep my backgrounds really plain or it would do my head in
[10:21] <joe_> I'm using X via windows/cygwin to connect to my ubuntu box.  Say I need to restart windows.  Is there a way to keep my gnome session on ubuntu active?
[10:21] <Frogzoo> marlun: you need to access the transparency slider under options
[10:21] <Ragol> this is 100% microsoft office, but I'
[10:22] <Ragol> sorry :)
[10:22] <Ragol> I'm thinkin about installing a linux box and using that for administration :)
[10:22] <Arafangion> marlun: I don't know about xgl, but there are hacks to allow transparent windows, (all of them), it's probable that some can be setup to be specifically transparent, but afaik, they might need to be specifically written.
[10:22] <Ragol> windoes 2003 server (active directory of course) and terminal services are the things I should handle with this setup
[10:22] <marlun> CarinArr, I need to read whats under the terminal so I don't have to change window or move it all the time, thats why I wanted it :P
[10:22] <Frogzoo> Ragol: you should be able to get by with the Terminal Services Client
[10:23] <Ragol> okay
[10:23] <dr_j> hi all. ive installed webmin twice now in order to config samba and both times when ive turned the box off and come back to it.. i get connection refused and it seems as though webmin is no longer installed. any ideas?
[10:23] <marlun> Frogzoo, transparency slider?
[10:23] <Arafangion> Ragol: You might be interested in Samba4's development.
[10:23] <marlun> Arafangion, ok, I'll just change the damn windows for now =P
[10:23] <Ragol> Arafangion: some new interesting things coming?
[10:23] <Frogzoo> marlun: edit -> current profile -> effects      but no, you still won't be able to see the text underneath
[10:24] <Arafangion> Ragol: It allows you to manage windows comptuers on the network via any browser.
[10:24] <Arafangion> Ragol: Client comptuers only need a javascript enabled browser, and access to a Samba4 server.
[10:24] <Arafangion> Ragol: Which is able to function as a complete AD server (When it's finished)
[10:25] <Ragol> Arafangion: okay, I'll look at it when I just get the machine up
[10:25] <marlun> Frogzoo, I know about that, you missed the beginning of the conversation :P
[10:25] <Frogzoo> marlun: so sue me :p
[10:25] <Arafangion> Ragol: Though, for now, I'd still use samba3.
[10:25] <Arafangion> Frogzoo: He wants true transparency.
[10:26] <marlun> Frogzoo, Don't have the time :P
[10:26] <Ragol> but it will not replace our servers, I just would like to have a linux as my desktop machine
[10:26] <Arafangion> Frogzoo: Not psuedo-transparency where you can see right through to the "root window", but you don't see any of the other windows that should be in between.
[10:26] <Ragol> and because our servers are win2003, I must be able to admin them
[10:26] <burning_bronx> Ragol, switch all servers to Debian sarge and you will live a better life
[10:26] <burning_bronx> you may even go to heaven
[10:27] <Arafangion> Ragol: imho, you would be better off using windows tools to manage windows servers. They are *incredibly* finicky.
[10:27] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[10:27] <Ragol> Arafangion: yep, I know that, but I just have too much time here :)
[10:27] <Arafangion> Ragol: Nice.
[10:28] <Assassin5> i'm running tar to backup various areas of my mailserver to a SMB mounted share. If I try and run this tar ro one machine (W2K Server) it constantly fails with I/O errors and broken pipe errors. To a WinXP share it is fine. any reason this should happen, or any ideas how to work round it in the mount command?
[10:29] <Arafangion> Assassin5: How big is the tar?
[10:29] <Assassin5> about 1.3gb in the end
[10:29] <Assassin5> I've also tried just backing up each area to one tar
[10:29] <Arafangion> Assassin5: You're not the only one with the problem.
[10:30] <Assassin5> Arafangion, i see
[10:30] <Arafangion> Assassin5: I think I remember seeing someone trying to do this with a 1GB+ file on samba-technical@samba.org, try looking at this or last month's archives.
[10:30] <Arafangion> Assassin5: I don't know if it was resolved.
[10:31] <Arafangion> Assassin5: But there were quite a few emails sent between teh parties.
[10:31] <Assassin5> Arafangion, ok thanks. I will have a look at that
[10:33] <Guard] [an> which offers better performance ??? reiserfs 3 or ext3 ???
[10:33] <Frogzoo> Guard] [an: for most purposes, damn as no difference
[10:34] <Guard] [an> i'm installing a laptop, dell inspiron, i guess i'll go ext3
[10:34] <Frogzoo> Guard] [an: that's best, imo
[10:34] <Ragol> so, no one have any opinions (or experiences) about pentium D and Ubuntu? :)
[10:36] <Frogzoo> Ragol: try any SMP kernel - you should be right
[10:36] <Ragol> okay
[10:40] <cwillu> I was changing a theme, and applied it;  it seems like half the windows are now frozen (it sure didn't seem to finish applying the theme);  how can I recover from this without restarting x?
[10:40] <cwillu> notably, the x-terminal-ubuntu window works fine,
[10:42] <Dr3as> I'm trying to get the nvidia driver to work on my computer. I have a 7800GT gfxcard and amdx2 cpu. After enableing the driver, either the one from the repositroy or the one from nvidia.com the screen gets black, no signal. i can hear the sound etc
[10:42] <Dr3as> anyone with a idea?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure its using nvidia driver than restartx
[10:43] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: also make sure it has you nvidia card as the one being used
[10:43] <Linux_Kong> anyone have any idea why I cant select 12 hour anymore in the clock on the gnome panel? is that just standard now?
[10:44] <squirrelpimp> hi
[10:44] <squirrelpimp> can i ask questions regarding dapper here, too? or is there an extra dev-channel?
[10:44] <Frogzoo> !tell Dr3as about nvidia
[10:44] <cwillu> #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:44] <gnomefreak> squirrelpimp: #ubuntu+1 is for dapper
[10:44] <CrazyOne> is there a way of resetting ubuntu back to how it was originally installed without cd?
[10:45] <snowblink> Linux_Kong, clock->preferences select 12 hour ?
[10:45] <squirrelpimp> gnomefreak: thx
[10:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:46] <burning_bronx> CrazyOne, only if you know exactly what changes you made to it
[10:46] <burning_bronx> and how to revert them of course
[10:46] <Frogzoo> CrazyOne: no, you'll need to reinstall & format your partitions & needs the cd
[10:46] <burning_bronx> Frogzoo, that's the windows way
[10:47] <gnomefreak> the cd has a fix mode to it too:)
[10:47] <Frogzoo> burning_bronx: :/
[10:47] <CrazyOne> burning_bronx i downloaded a driver for finepix digi cal cam, since i installed driver (to work as webcam) i cant mount the camera at all
[10:47] <Dr3as> it's the right driver and right card, if i change nvidia with nv everything works nice
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: i had to do that too :(
[10:48] <burning_bronx> CrazyOne, how did you install the driver? A Deb file? Or you compiled from source?
[10:48] <CrazyOne> tar.gz make make install
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: after re starting X run glxgears -printfps and see wha tthe fps is it should be in the thousands atleast
[10:49] <gnomefreak> make checkinstall :)
[10:49] <burning_bronx> CrazyOne, that's pretty... unappropriate... you should have used checkinstall
[10:49] <Dr3as> gnomefreak: but with nv i dont get 3d do i?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: thats why i had you run that command to find out
[10:49] <CrazyOne> im a newbie to linux, what is checkinstall?
[10:50] <Frogzoo> Dr3as: did you read the pm from ubotu?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell CrazyOne about checkinstall
[10:50] <burning_bronx> unless you have installwatch which you don't there is no way you can trace the things make install installed/chhange
[10:50] <burning_bronx> *changed
[10:50] <burning_bronx> CrazyOne, check your PM from ubotu
[10:50] <CrazyOne> ok thanks
[10:50] <Dr3as> i've read the wikihowtoo, cheking the forumposts now
[10:51] <Linux_Kong> snowblink: nah, cant select that, thats the odd thing
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: when you run the above command is the last number in each line in the thousands?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> or higher
[10:53] <Wharf> how do i findout my lan ip?
[10:53] <Wharf> on ubunr
[10:53] <Dr3as> i'm at work atm, so can't test before i'm home
[10:53] <Wharf> ubuntu
[10:53] <bimberi> Wharf: ifconfig
[10:53] <gnomefreak> oh ok theres also a command to check direct rendering (just tried what i thought they were and they are not :(
[10:53] <burning_bronx> g00d 0l3 ifconfig ;)
[10:54] <burning_bronx> never fails ;P
[10:54] <Arafangion> Dr3as: You don't get 3d accel with the 'nv' driver, period. You do with the Nvidia (Or is it NVidia?) driver.
[10:54] <bimberi> gnomefreak: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:54] <Arafangion> Dr3as: Every time you install a new kernel, you have to re-install the nvidia driver.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ty bimberi
[10:54] <Wharf> Ta, is there a way i can make that static?
[10:54] <bimberi> gnomefreak: yvw :)
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Dr3as: also run the command that bimberi just gave when you get infront of pc
[10:55] <burning_bronx> Arafangion, it's nVidia :) and yes we all hate them.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> thats only if you are compiling own kernel
[10:55] <Dr3as> Arafangion: it's a new installation
[10:55] <mitja_> how can I show all symlinks pointing to a file?
[10:56] <Dr3as> first upgraded kernel to k7-smp
[10:56] <Dr3as> then startet with drivers
[10:56] <burning_bronx> smooth as silk ;)
[10:56] <burning_bronx> and the installation is just 5 megs :)
[10:57] <Dr3as> got a tip, maybe try a older driver.. hmm.. will test that too
[10:57] <Assassin5> Arafangion, couldn't find that thread, just a reference to a problem like that with no replies, but I think it might be because the machine has samba 2.2.7a on it.
[10:57] <burning_bronx> Dr3as, so you're havin' problems with your nvidia drivers?
[10:57] <Dr3as> yes, just getting a blackscreen
[10:58] <Dr3as> i can hear the sound etc
[10:58] <burning_bronx> with the ones from nvidia's website
[10:58] <Dr3as> yes, and the ones from the repository
[10:58] <mAIJK> Hi, I have an Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, I want to be able to navigate forward and backward in my webbrowser (Firefox, xubuntu). How and where do I make this possible?
[10:58] <burning_bronx> I'd reckong you've checked if xorg.conf is not still using the nv drivers?
[10:58] <burning_bronx> *reckon
[10:59] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx: the nv drivers work but the nvidia drivers dont i told him to use the nv than :)
[10:59] <gnomefreak> iirc mines on nv
[10:59] <burning_bronx> but nv doesn't have 3d accel..
[10:59] <burning_bronx> does it?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> burning_bronx: i do
[11:00] <Ng> burning_bronx: correct
[11:00] <Dr3as> i'm trying to show mye friends that it is possible to play games on a linuxbox
[11:00] <burning_bronx> huh
[11:00] <burning_bronx> you two are contradicting
[11:00] <Dr3as> so 3d is something i need
[11:00] <gnomefreak> i have 3d accel its only 2000fps but i have it
[11:00] <burning_bronx> Dr3as, is possible of course but nvidia has always been problematic...
[11:00] <Ng> burning_bronx: 3d stuff will still work because it'll fall back on software rendering, but it won't be accelerated like the binary nvidia driver is
[11:00] <burning_bronx> it's the manufacturer's fault
[11:01] <burning_bronx> I guess
[11:01] <burning_bronx> however I hear ATIs are runnin' cool on Dapper
[11:02] <ompaul> !dapper
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[11:03] <twa1296> i want to backup a website, any tools for this in ubuntu?
[11:03] <Dr3as> well i'll try more this weekend
[11:03] <ompaul> twa1296, dump the database and tar it up
[11:03] <Dr3as> maybe som older drives from nvidia.com will do the trick
[11:03] <ompaul> then consider compression
[11:04] <burning_bronx> Dr3as, what's your nvidia?
[11:04] <twa1296> ompaul, you mean download the dbase via ftp? that should suffice?
[11:04] <ompaul> twa1296, no you should "dump" contents
[11:05] <Dr3as> the lastest on the website
[11:05] <ompaul> twa1296, no you should "dump" contents this means you have it frozen at that time
[11:05] <burning_bronx> :)
[11:05] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[11:05] <chrisw69> Hi I'm having problems compiling with c++, i've installed it all, I'm new to linux and used to dev-cpp and visual studio
[11:06] <ompaul> twa1296, that and the contents of the site should all be put in a "tarball" tar cvf my.tar data/* and away you go
[11:06] <burning_bronx> chrisw69, what you tryin' to compile and what have you done so far?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> chriswk: you're using "g++ blah.cpp -o foo"?
[11:06] <chrisw69> no
[11:06] <chrisw69> just a simple application I made
[11:06] <chrisw69> i.e cout << "hello" << std::endl;
[11:06] <twa1296> ompaul, thanks, i think i see
[11:06] <chrisw69> the code is fine
[11:06] <Hobbsee> chrisw69: yep, it is - so you wan tto know how to compile it?
[11:06] <burning_bronx> aaah the hello
[11:07] <chrisw69> sure
[11:07] <chrisw69> I installed anjuta as an IDE
[11:07] <chrisw69> I've been trying to compile it in there
[11:07] <Hobbsee> chriswk: use (thru a command line) "g++ blah.cpp -o foo"
[11:07] <chrisw69> hmm
[11:07] <Hobbsee> i dont know about GUI programs to do it though
[11:07] <Hobbsee> but that works just fine
[11:07] <chrisw69> Don't you need to make an object file first?
[11:07] <chrisw69> then link it?
[11:08] <chrisw69> I've only worked with windows :S
[11:08] <gnomefreak> in anjuta if you look at bottom it will give you a cli
[11:08] <Hobbsee> chrisw69: no, it does it automatically, as far as i know
[11:08] <chrisw69> that's good
[11:08] <chrisw69> well
[11:08] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: compile it as he said g++ foo.cpp -o foo
[11:08] <Hobbsee> chrisw69: then to run the file you got, ./foo
[11:08] <Hobbsee> psst.. gnomefreak...she...
[11:08] <Hobbsee> :P
[11:09] <burning_bronx> Hobbsee, :)
[11:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:09] <gnomefreak> oops :(
[11:09] <burning_bronx> glad to see some female action around here ;)
[11:09] <Hobbsee> no problems gnomefreak - it happens often enough :P
[11:09] <burning_bronx> well you asked for it! Talking bout compiling and stuff lol
[11:09] <burning_bronx> ;)
[11:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:10] <Hobbsee> heh
[11:10] <chrisw69> I'm not used to cc either
[11:10] <Hobbsee> burning_bronx: i'm doing few computing units in my degree - so of course i have to know how to compile c++ programs :P
[11:10] <chrisw69> I keep thinking it's a c file
[11:11] <burning_bronx> ;P
[11:11] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: C use gcc instead of g++ the rest is same
[11:11] <burning_bronx> lspci
[11:11] <burning_bronx> oops
[11:12] <burning_bronx> damn touchpad switchin' my windows >.>
[11:12] <chrisw69> damnit
[11:12] <CarinArr> heh.. touchpads are evil
[11:12] <gnomefreak> smart move
[11:12] <burning_bronx> indeed they are
[11:12] <chrisw69> gnomefreak, lol i meant the files
[11:12] <chrisw69> my c++ files in anjuta are being created as .cc
[11:12] <lamer1> How do I disable Shift+Backspace ( which restarts my XGL ) ?
[11:12] <chrisw69> I'm used to .cpp
[11:13] <CarinArr> chrisw69, er.. does it make an actual difference?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:13] <chrisw69> not really
[11:13] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: if hes using g++ foo.cpp i would say it does
[11:13] <chrisw69> just confusing at first
[11:13] <chrisw69> lol
[11:13] <CarinArr> heh, well that's easily fixed;)
[11:13] <chrisw69> I'm a noob to linux
[11:14] <CarinArr> anyway
[11:14] <chrisw69> I've used c++ before and written a lot of classes that I'd like to run on linux
[11:14] <Jhair> g++ recognizes .cpp files as C++ files
[11:14] <chrisw69> Do you have any experience with anjuta IDE CarinArr ?
[11:14] <CarinArr> jhair, yeah, but only if there IS one that's actually .cpp;)
[11:15] <Q-FUNK> is the version of ubuntu-artwork that existed until about 1 week ago still downloadable somewhere?
[11:15] <CarinArr> chrisw69, nope.. i had it open for all of half an hour and hated it
[11:15] <CarinArr> i much prefer kdevelop
[11:16] <chrisw69> I'd use gedit for compiling small applcations but when the size starts getting larger I'd find problems
[11:16] <chrisw69> FOrgetting the odd } or {  is a problem!!
[11:16] <chrisw69> lol
[11:17] <CarinArr> well yeah.. if i'm doing something smaller i would use vim, just gets a bit unmanagable when your project's growing out of proportion
[11:19] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I disagree.
[11:19] <chrisw69> ahh I think i've gotten the hang of Anjuta IDE now
[11:19] <GnarusLeo> Hi! I have a intel wireless adapter on my Laptop which was installed succesfully. Now, my wireless settings have a WEP key and its not _open_ its _shared_ ... This option I cannot change in the Network GUI settings in ubuntu. Anyone know how ?
[11:19] <CarinArr> arafangion, that's okay, we all use what works for ourselves
[11:20] <Arafangion> CarinArr: True :) I'm forced to use VS C++ atm, so I'm fighting atm.
[11:20] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: I don't have an exact answer... but the regular Ubuntu network stuff seems only to work with "open" security. If you need "shared", try network-manager.
[11:20] <concept10> Any themers lurking here?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: anjuta and kdevelop are the 2 easiest IDE's to use imo
[11:20] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, k, thanks, Ill try
[11:21] <chrisw69> yea, I didn't realise it  had to build aswell
[11:21] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I'm considering learning emacs, but my carpal tunnel might not be able to tolerate it.
[11:21] <CarinArr> i just haven't found a managable way of having x number of files open in vim and not confuse them
[11:21] <chrisw69> IT does the stages of compiling and linking seperately
[11:21] <chrisw69> I'm used to emulating gcc and g++ with mingw32
[11:21] <chrisw69> So I know the commands etc
[11:22] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I generally work in one file at a time, vim encourages large files, but within the file, it is exceptionally good.
[11:22] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Different editor, different use pattern. VS appears to encourage enourmous classes.
[11:22] <chrisw69> Arafangion, use your toes!
[11:22] <concept10> CarinArr, splitting the screen horizontally is what I do in ViM
[11:23] <CarinArr> yeah of course, but when your project involves a bucketload of different files and you want to tweak bits in each of them as you go, it isn't particularly managable
[11:23] <Arafangion> chrisw69: Heh.
[11:23] <concept10> CarinArr, I meant vertically
[11:23] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I have at most four files open at once in vim.
[11:23] <LasseL> eclipse is also a possibility for C/C++ now
[11:23] <CarinArr> heh, i didn't even notice you said horizontally;)
[11:23] <Arafangion> CarinArr: But my laptop has an enourmous resolution, so that helps.
[11:23] <concept10> but of course I use Cream for Vim!
[11:23] <chrisw69> is gcc the native compiler for linux?
[11:24] <CarinArr> four files is fine.. in fact, i can probably manage 6 or so files
[11:24] <CarinArr> without getting confused
[11:24] <LasseL> http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/
[11:24] <concept10> I just wish I new how to open a command prompt in cream
[11:24] <Arafangion> chrisw69: A particular version of gcc will normally be the native compiler for your particular distro (and version).
[11:24] <concept10> *knew
[11:25] <Arafangion> chrisw69: gcc == Gnu Compiler *Collection*, so you also get g++ for c++ files, gcc for c files, gcj for java files, gcf(?) for fortran...
[11:25] <Arafangion> (Or was it f77 for fortran?)
[11:25] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, Ok, Ive installed network manager .. but theres just alot of deamons ..
[11:25] <CarinArr> but at the moment the project i'm working on far exceeds 6
[11:25] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, is there a configure bin or something?
[11:25] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I find that I'm rarely editing more than one file at a time, even if there's, say, 10.
[11:25] <Jhair> Arafangion: is f77
[11:26] <Arafangion> Jhair: Thanks.
[11:26] <chrisw69> gcf?
[11:26] <chrisw69> oh
[11:26] <CarinArr> it depends what i'm doing, what sort of project i'm working on
[11:26] <chrisw69> me bad
[11:26] <chrisw69> didn't read
[11:26] <chrisw69> So dynamic libaries
[11:26] <chrisw69> is there such a thing?
[11:27] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I do tend to have my code documentation as well.
[11:27] <Arafangion> chrisw69: Of course.
[11:27] <chrisw69> I've never seen a dll on linux is the procedure the same
[11:27] <Arafangion> chrisw69: And they're much better on linux than they are on windows.
[11:27] <chrisw69> =] 
[11:27] <chrisw69> Everything seems so much better
[11:27] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: Yeah, follow the instruction on the wiki page...
[11:27] <Arafangion> chrisw69: Your entire /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/share/lib are all generally .so files (Shared Object)
[11:27] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, will do
[11:27] <chrisw69> sure
[11:27] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, was just about to go there :) Srry
[11:28] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager?action=show&redirect=NetworkmanagerHowto
[11:28] <Arafangion> chrisw69: Which, are functionally equivalent.
[11:28] <concept10> how do you guys like this: http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4dg.png
[11:28] <burning_bronx> hmmm for some wicked reason my touchpad won't stop working :/
[11:28] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: Usually you just have to add "nm-applet" to your gnome startup.
[11:28] <Jhair> chrisw69: you can find dll under linux though. In systems which use wine, the windows emulator. I think mplayer also uses dlls for some codecs.
[11:28] <CarinArr> burning_bronx, ah, yes, been there
[11:28] <CarinArr> ;)
[11:28] <burning_bronx> CarinArr, so?
[11:28] <Arafangion> concept10: I prefer to have :split's as well as the :vsplit's you have there.
[11:29] <chrisw69> ok sure
[11:29] <chrisw69> thanks
[11:29] <Arafangion> concept10: But your screen is tiny compared to mine, also, I also prefer vim on xterm (fastest combination, imho)
[11:29] <burning_bronx> in dapper and in breezy as well I have been able to disable it in times past
[11:29] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: And NetworkManager can do "shared" auth, while regular gnome can't, at least not with my AP... but NM is much better anyway.
[11:29] <Arafangion> chrisw69: Windows uses coff libraries, afaik.
[11:29] <burning_bronx> and I am certain it shouldn't be working now but it is...
[11:29] <Tomcat_> GnarusLeo: It'll do just about anything automatically with your wireless.
[11:29] <Dr3as> burning_bronx: open your laptop and disconnect it :p
[11:29] <CarinArr> burning_bronx, to be honest i can't quite remember how i solved it.. i couldn't use the default driver in xorg tho, had to change it to something else, and i couldn't disable the touchpad without the "nipple" getting turned off as well.. oh AND, i couldn't use a ps/2 mouse at the same time cause it would override whatever touchpad settings i had
[11:29] <concept10> Arafangion, I am starting to like splits better than tabs, because you may resize them. I love it
[11:29] <Arafangion> chrisw69: While linux uses elf
[11:30] <Arafangion> concept10: Yes, so while you have fewer files open, it's more accessible.
[11:30] <chrisw69> well I've mounted my programming partition so I can access my sources there
[11:30] <chrisw69> =] 
[11:30] <burning_bronx> CarinArr, I am using a USB mouse without any problems, also I've been able to disable the darn thing b4
[11:31] <burning_bronx> have no clue what trick it's playin' on me now
[11:31] <CarinArr> i still maintain it's not managable when you're working on large projects.. if you are using something and quickly need to look up the signature of functions in different classes
[11:31] <Arafangion> CarinArr: I use documentation for that.
[11:31] <CarinArr> there's no way i can keep all the classes i might need to use open in different vim windows, even if i use split windows combined with multiple screens
[11:32] <Jhair> CarinArr: in Emacs you can use the etags system to find declarations of functions or variables
[11:32] <CarinArr> but then you have to actually go and look in the documentation, which means it takes longer
[11:32] <Jhair> all that is a matter of taste though
[11:32] <Arafangion> CarinArr: Just a moement while I find out what the one I use atm is called, but I use a tool that produces html documentation.
[11:32] <CarinArr> jhair, i am not emacs compatible:)
[11:32] <CarinArr> doxygen?
[11:32] <Arafangion> CarinArr: alt-tab :)
[11:32] <Arafangion> Yup, doxygen
[11:32] <Jhair> CarinArr: etags works with vim too :)
[11:32] <liable> burning_bronx: normally in bios.
[11:32] <CarinArr> doxygen is fine, but you still have to navigate the documentation
[11:33] <CarinArr> and alt-tab has nothing on screen:)
[11:33] <burning_bronx> liable, why screw around in bios if I can do it through X >.>
[11:33] <Arafangion> CarinArr: It does switch between xterm and the browser, though :)
[11:33] <CarinArr> burning_bronx, yeah, if you don't have a "nipple" and you just want it turned off all together, you can turn it off in bios
[11:33] <liable> burning_bronx: haha, yes..
[11:34] <CarinArr> cause disabling it in bios is probably a lot damned easier;)
[11:34] <n4th4n> hi all
[11:34] <alberto> alguien sabe como ver la tele a pantalla completa??? si los putos bordes negros
[11:34] <CarinArr> Arafangion, yeah, but then i'd still have to click my way through the menues in the docs to get to the class i'm wanting to look at
[11:35] <Arafangion> CarinArr: You still would in most ide's.
[11:35] <burning_bronx> CarinArr, if you know what you're doing editing the xorg.conf is easier >.>
[11:35] <CarinArr> burning_bronx, if the driver is working as it should, which, with my touchpad, it wasn't
[11:36] <Jhair> .
[11:36] <burning_bronx> CarinArr, that's what I meant
[11:36] <burning_bronx> back to business
[11:36] <chrisw69> ack
[11:36] <chrisw69> ok
[11:36] <chrisw69> sockets on linux
[11:36] <chrisw69> SOCKET _sock;
[11:36] <chrisw69> is causing me problems
[11:37] <n4th4n> c qualche italiano?
[11:37] <liable> !it
[11:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:37] <CarinArr> jhair, will have a look at the etags thing
[11:37] <Jhair> chrisw69: sockets handling is not trivial, I would you recommend to take a look to the 'Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment' from Richard Stevens
[11:38] <Jhair> chrisw69: the man pages of the relevant system calls are also a good source of information
[11:38] <anakronisme> i was wondering - ubuntuguide.org says to apt-get libdvdcss2 for dvd-playback, but that isnt working any longer (i think the guide refers to hoary) - anyone have any idea what to do?
[11:38] <rob> !ubuntuguide
[11:38] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:38] <rob> anakronisme, ^
[11:39] <anakronisme> oh :)
[11:39] <anakronisme> heh, and i thought it was such a nice page :)
[11:39] <anakronisme> thanks
[11:39] <rob> all that info in on the wiki, also check out http://doc.ubuntu.com for the official docs
[11:39] <alberto> nadie sabe como poner la tele en pantalla completa si los bordes??
[11:39] <ravi> hey, can someone tell me what package to install to get ncurses.h ? how do I figure it out, using dpkg -L?
[11:39] <GnarusLeo> Tomcat_, thanks ... that was neat :)
[11:40] <Dr3as> use apt-cache search ncurs
[11:40] <pd> Hi all, this is not a Ubuntu  specific question
[11:40] <pd> but how can I find all the files with time stamp May 2005
[11:40] <ravi> Dr3as, too much output/noise. Not helping ... I already installed a dozen ncurses things ... sigh.
[11:40] <pd> man find is too exhaustive to find out
[11:40] <pd> and I am a strter in linux
[11:44] <s6n1-10> slt
[11:44] <s6n1-10> nederlands
[11:44] <s6n1-10> hallo
[11:44] <s6n1-10> we zijn in belgie
[11:44] <s6n1-10> in wallonie
[11:45] <CarinArr> !nl
[11:45] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:45] <ravi> D'oh, libncurses5-dev was what I wanted :)
[11:47] <Jhair> pd: the following works for me
[11:47] <Jhair> find . -name *.cpp -print | xargs stat -c '%y %n' | grep ^'2006-01'
[11:47] <Jhair> pd change 2006-01 to 2005-01 for the may files
[11:48] <Jhair> pd and change the *.cpp for \* for all files
[11:48] <Jhair> pd anyway you get the idea
[11:48] <ravi> Jhair, 2006-05, you mean? :)
[11:48] <Jhair> ravi: pd was looking for a way to find the files which where modified on may 2005
[11:49] <gnomefreak> 2005-05 maybe even
[11:49] <ravi> D'oh, double typo :(
[11:49] <ravi> Jhair, my bad.
[11:50] <Jhair> ravi: it was my typo you were right! I wrote "2005-01 for the may files" I am a dork :)
[11:50] <ravi> anyhoo, back to the real world for me.
[11:50] <dabaR> the real world?
[11:51] <suppaman> hi
[11:51] <ravi> Jhair, lol, don't sweat it. I was actually thinking the solution to pk's problem was to inspect st_atime/st_mtime/st_ctime with a stat() call ... that's how dorky and low on sleep I am :(
[11:51] <gnomefreak> is there another way to split command other than &&?
[11:51] <chrisw69> hello!!
[11:51] <chrisw69> back again
[11:52] <liable> ;
[11:52] <ravi> dabaR, *nod* -- I haven't slept in um, about 30 hours. Time to get some shut-eye ... it's 05.51 ;/
[11:52] <chrisw69> can anyone tell me how to install amsn .095?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: in breezy?
[11:52] <chrisw69> plz
[11:52] <chrisw69> It has 0.94 installed but I don't have a clue what to do
[11:52] <chrisw69> I'm using web messenger atm
[11:52] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: you might find a .deb on their site if not you would need to compile it
[11:52] <Jhair> gnomefreak: what do you mean by split? && is the AND operator in bash...
[11:53] <dabaR> chrisw69: did you read the forums? they have it shown there I bet.
[11:53] <chrisw69> yes there is a .deb
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Jhair: to run 2 commands split might have been a bad word to use
[11:53] <chrisw69> but I don't know what to do with it =/
[11:53] <chrisw69> <- real noob
[11:53] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: download the .deb than run sudo dpkg -i file.deb to install it
[11:53] <chrisw69> super star
[11:54] <chrisw69> Do I not need tcl or whatever it is?
[11:54] <Sp4rKy> anyone knows how read a .flv under linux ?
[11:55] <Jhair> gnomefreak: ; & && || all are used to list 2 or more commands to execute
[11:55] <gnomefreak> chrisw69: that i cant answer i have never used amsn but i dont see why you would need it
[11:55] <Jhair> Sp4rKy: those generated by google video?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ok ty Jhair
[11:55] <GnaLeo> Does gaim support skins? Sourceforge is down
[11:55] <Sp4rKy> Jhair, maybe , but me it's a file downloaded from youtube
[11:56] <chrisw69> aren't they just bitwise operators for XOR/AND/NAND etc?
[11:56] <pd> Jhair: thankyou very mich
[11:56] <pd> Jhair: just saw your message
[11:56] <dabaR> GnaLeo: I have not seen skins.
[11:56] <pd> that was very useful to me
[11:56] <gnomefreak> GnaLeo: look on gaims site maybe they have them there (doesnt know but i would start there)
[11:57] <cwillu> are there any applets to do mouse guestures in gnome?
[11:57] <GnaLeo> gnomefreak, ok, but the gnome.sourceforge.org is unreachable at the moment .. thanks
[11:57] <gnomefreak> GnaLeo: thats not the gaim site
[11:57] <cwillu> sourceforge.net isn't it?
[11:57] <Dr3as> to get the newest amsn i first install the one from the repository, and then upgrade
[11:57] <GnaLeo> yes,s orry ... .net
[11:57] <concept10> where are the mouse pointer icon themes stored?
[11:57] <Dr3as> work like a charm
[11:57] <dabaR> chrisw69: no like, aptitude update && aptitude upgrade, if update is successful, then the upgrade runs. aptitude update || mail blah@blah -t "not successful..." if update not successful, then email blah.
[11:58] <chrisw69> o-0
[11:58] <chrisw69> ok thx for the help guys
[11:58] <chrisw69> bye!
[11:58] <dabaR> !deb
[11:58] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[11:58] <aeolist> !dapper
[11:58] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[11:58] <aeolist> :/
[11:59] <gnomefreak> http://sourceforge.net/   <<is working for me
[12:00] <GnaLeo> gnomefreak, yes, for me as well .. but not http://gaim.sourceforge.net
[12:03] <GnaLeo> gnomefreak, really? I cant connect at all
[12:04] <gnomefreak> GnaLeo: use http://sourceforge.net/ and search for gaim
[12:04] <Digis> i have ibm thinkpad T43, I edit xorg.conf and write 1280x1024 resolution, but xorg still uses 1024x768 resolution. why? how to fix it?
[12:04] <GnaLeo> i did
[12:04] <GnaLeo> maybe its opera f**ning it up ..
[12:05] <Mind-Rot> hi all
[12:05] <cwillu> Digis, can you change it from administration | screen resolution
[12:05] <cwillu> ?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> the site you gave works here also
[12:05] <Dr3as> Digis: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[12:05] <Mind-Rot> i just installed Ubuntu on my laptop to check it out :D
[12:05] <gnomefreak> and yes on the site that you posted there are themes :)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=746976&group_id=235&func=browse
[12:06] <GnaLeo> switching to firefox :)
[12:06] <Digis> cwillu, it displays only 1024x768
[12:06] <Digis> Dr3as, isnt't editing xorg.conf enough?
[12:06] <GnaLeo> well there you go .. it worked
[12:07] <cwillu> dpkg is more likely to get it right :)
[12:07] <cwillu> in general at least
[12:07] <GnaLeo> gnomefreak, but still ... no skins :(
[12:08] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: i didnt know what they were i saw themes figured it might have what you wanted i didnt see skins on any of the other 5 pages i went through
[12:08] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:08] <Mind-Rot> does anyone know good mirrors for ap-get ?
[12:08] <Mind-Rot> *apt
[12:10] <Hobbsee> !mirrors
[12:10] <ubotu> methinks mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:10] <Hobbsee> Mind-Rot: ^
[12:10] <Mind-Rot> thx
[12:12] <p3pp3> hejsam
[12:12] <p3pp3> quit?
[12:13] <robinl1> hey, i just saw Automatix and had an idea
[12:14] <robinl1> i'm gonna make my own app which turns Ubuntu to a distribution with all my apps and all my artwork, lol
[12:14] <robinl1> into*
[12:14] <robinl1> now the question was..
[12:14] <aeolist> pws to len to paketo
[12:14] <roberto_> hello, ciao ragazzi!
[12:14] <gnomefreak> !it
[12:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:14] <robinl1> how to set gnome settings via command line?
[12:15] <roberto_> Excuseme
[12:15] <roberto_> I don't know
[12:15] <gnomefreak> roberto_: we speak english in this channel use #ubuntu-it for italian
[12:15] <drelch> hi
[12:15] <drelch> #ubuntu-de
[12:15] <drelch> gna
[12:15] <drelch> sorry
[12:17] <GnarusLeo> How do I install new logon screens? GDM?
[12:17] <robinl1> how to set gnome settings via command line?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: install gnome-art :)
[12:17] <GnarusLeo> ty :)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:18] <GnarusLeo> glad your around gnomefreak .. heh
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ty ;)
[12:19] <Digis> cwillu, Dr3as dpkg-reconfigure didn't helped
[12:21] <cyphase> hmm, i never knew you could use Alt+MiddleClick to resize a window until i saw it in XGL
[12:21] <gnomefreak> cyphase: can you do that outside of xgl?
[12:21] <cyphase> yea
[12:21] <cyphase> and i assume you can change the keys
[12:22] <cyphase> you can in compiz
[12:22] <gnomefreak> oh ok alot of the commands or kwy combos only work in xgl wasnt sure about that one
[12:22] <cyphase> np :)
[12:22] <cyphase> have you tried xgl yet?
[12:22] <cyphase> why not?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> oh yeah
[12:23] <gnomefreak> wasnt able to get it to do what i wanted and it killled synaptic or gksudo
[12:23] <cyphase> oh
[12:23] <cyphase> in ubuntu
[12:23] <cyphase> lol
[12:23] <cyphase> try the XGL Live CD
[12:23] <robinl1> how to set gnome settings via command line?
[12:23] <cyphase> it's great, everything is enabled, and it works perfect
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> gnomefreak, the "install" tab is faded out? Even sudoet it
[12:24] <GnarusLeo> gnomefreak, can only "download only" :)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: install tab?
[12:24] <GnarusLeo> option ..
[12:24] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: yes i know
[12:24] <cyphase> gnomefreak, http://getkororaa.com/
[12:24] <cyphase> it's a gentoo based distro
[12:24] <cyphase> they've created an XGL live cd
[12:24] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: once downloaded you can than add it to the gdm installer
[12:25] <GnarusLeo> aha!
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ty cyphase ill look at it
[12:25] <cyphase> np
[12:25] <cyphase> your welcome*
[12:25] <cyphase> :P
[12:25] <per> anyone read this!?
[12:25] <cyphase> per, read what?
[12:25] <GnarusLeo> gnomefreak, where is the gdm installer?
[12:26] <GnarusLeo> never mind GnarusLeo  .. damn im stupid today :)
[12:26] <gnomefreak> GnarusLeo: system>admin>log-in setup
[12:26] <per> Sorry, I wasnt sure that I could get through to you guys... has logged on for the first time on xchat...
[12:31] <gnomefreak> bbl
[12:32] <C-O-L-T> This kororaa thing is marvelous
[12:33] <aeolist> what kororaa thing?
[12:33] <ubuntu> par quoi commencer sur ubuntu
[12:33] <C-O-L-T> aeolist: http://getkororaa.com/
[12:33] <ompaul> !fr
[12:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:33] <aeolist> !gr
[12:33] <ompaul> ubuntu,  pour vour >>>>/join #ubuntu-fr<<<<<
[12:33] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[12:34] <aeolist> empty ubuntu-gr channel :(
[12:34] <ompaul> ubuntu s/vour/vous/
[12:34] <KuDeTa> anyone arround?
[12:34] <KuDeTa> good
[12:34] <Jhair> what practical purpose does have 'Display svg picture on top of cube' !?
[12:34] <ompaul> aeolist, stay there :-) and here
[12:34] <KuDeTa> anyone with any knowledge about the acx100 wlan driver?
[12:34] <KuDeTa> its loaded
[12:34] <KuDeTa> but my wireless card wont work
[12:34] <aeolist> ompaul, sounds like a plan
[12:35] <KuDeTa> iwlist wlan0 scan > no scan results
[12:35] <KuDeTa> i was wondering how to set the ap's mac address to connect to, im too nub with nix and i cant edit the interfaces file manually
[12:35] <KuDeTa> is there a command from the terminal to select a specific AP mac
[12:36] <ompaul> KuDeTa, can you put all your thoughts on the one line please, that way you can be followed, and sorry don't do wireless at all so can't tell you anything other than look here System > administration > networking
[12:36] <ompaul> KuDeTa, I presume you have looked at wiki.ubuntu.com and searched for wireless
[12:36] <KuDeTa> they wont fit on one line..unless your screen is very wide :)
[12:37] <KuDeTa> ompaul yes yes i have
[12:37] <ompaul> KuDeTa, what I meant was use commas not enter :-)
[12:38] <KuDeTa> its something to dow ith this driver/firmware im pretty sure, ubuntu comes wiwth an old version of the driver..i think maybe next step is to uninstall that module/driver and install the new one
[12:38] <aeolist> commas or shift + enter :P
[12:38] <KuDeTa> i have no idea how to do this however :)
[12:38] <Fargo> Hello. Iv installed Apache, MySQL and PHP on my Ubuntu Linux machine. I installed mysqladmin so I can control mysql via the webbrowser, but I cant find it. Apache, MySQL and PHP works fine, but I cant find mysqladmin on my ip, 10.0.0.12/mysqladmin. Any suggestions ?
[12:39] <KuDeTa> if the module is called acx_pci can someone give me the commands to uninstall it?
[12:39] <ompaul> KuDeTa, check out ndiswrapper some of the instructions there may be of use
[12:39] <KuDeTa> dont wanna use that.. ther is a "propper" driver like i siad
[12:40] <ompaul> KuDeTa, do this in a terminal >> rmmod name <<
[12:40] <ompaul> KuDeTa, before you do type  >>man rmmod <<
[12:41] <GnarusLeo> Hi again. I shared a folder with the "system - admin - sharing" thing (SMB) .. but when I try to access it from a comouter it asks for a passwd ... where do I unset this?
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> I can find the folder from a remote computer, but just no access it
[12:42] <Mind-Rot> yeah that happened to me also, i tried using my login pwd but it didnt work
[12:43] <KuDeTa> paul..ill have to reboot into ubuntu
[12:44] <KuDeTa> so is that all i need to do to remove it?
[12:44] <Enthusiast78> Greetings! How can I make xchat not display the server list on startup but also automatically connect?
[12:45] <Mind-Rot> thats all in the options
[12:45] <Mind-Rot> theres a box that says "skip server list on startup"
[12:45] <V4Vendetta> HELLO, is cooky puss home
[12:46] <aeolist> no, he's at work
[12:46] <Mind-Rot> and on the server, click the edit button and tick "autoconnect to this server at startup"
[12:46] <Enthusiast78> Mind-Rot, That's ok, but then it just starts up and sit there, disconnected... I'd like it to connect directly to this server/channel, for example.
[12:46] <Enthusiast78> Mind-Rot, Hmmm, sorry. :o)
[12:46] <V4Vendetta> aeolist~ it's a woman..
[12:46] <Enthusiast78> Micksa, And thanks!
[12:46] <Enthusiast78> oops
[12:46] <Enthusiast78> Mind-Rot, Thanks!
[12:46] <Assassin5> and you can add channels to auto connect to at startup
[12:46] <aeolist> whatever.... i never managed to tell the difference between the two
[12:47] <GnarusLeo> Mind-Rot, did you fix it? SMB problem?
[12:47] <Enthusiast78> Ok, next question... Is there a program I could install to access my Nokia phone through its USB cable?
[12:49] <GnarusLeo> Hi! I have used the gnome thingy to set up a folder share (smb), but when I try to connect it it just requires a password ... anyone know?
[12:50] <Enthusiast78> GnarusLeo, Probably you need to specify a valid user/password.
[12:50] <Mind-Rot> sorry for not replying before GnarusLeo , but no, i couldnt fix it.
[12:50] <aeolist> GnarusLeo, you need to make smb users
[12:50] <guest1141982739> hi
[12:51] <GnarusLeo> aeolist, how do I do this?
[12:51] <guest1141982739> do it for me baby
[12:51] <Enthusiast78> Anyone connecting a Nokia phone via USB?
[12:51] <guest1141982739> n
[12:51] <aeolist> guest1141982739, that's not much of an incentive is it?
[12:51] <KuDeTa> how do i install the kernel headers without an inet connections
[12:51] <KuDeTa> do they come on the dvd?
[12:52] <guest1141982739> jau genau
[12:52] <Hobbsee> guest1141982739: what were you wanting?
[12:52] <guest1141982739> fuck you
[12:52] <Mind-Rot> he wants to get banned lol
[12:52] <Snake__> !coc
[12:52] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:53] <Snake__> :)
[12:53] <Hobbsee> yes, i thought that might happen...
[12:53] <KuDeTa> install kernel headers without an internet onnection anyoneee?
[12:53] <aeolist> KuDeTa, how exactly are you gonna do that?
[12:53] <Enthusiast78> KuDeTa, just 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-386'.
[12:54] <KuDeTa> i dont know..but i need them to get my internet working
[12:54] <aeolist> or better ye
[12:54] <aeolist> t
[12:54] <KuDeTa> so i have no choice
[12:54] <GnarusLeo> aeolist, How do I make smb users and such?
[12:55] <KuDeTa> im on amd64
[12:55] <aeolist> GnarusLeo, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server
[12:55] <KuDeTa> so replace 386 with that?
[12:55] <Mind-Rot> yes i would like to find out also how to make samba users:)
[12:55] <GnarusLeo> thanks
[12:55] <Mind-Rot> yay 10x
[12:56] <xsquared> hi, my friend was trying to install the ati drivers and it screwed up. Now it won't show anything on the screen (i think he turned on enable the kernel framebuffer thing. How can he reconfigure x on his computer with the live cd?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> grr
[12:56] <xsquared> can anyone help us?
[12:56] <s-wx> What about the exploit? How to protect ?
[12:56] <KuDeTa> Enthusiast78 can i replace the 36 with amd64?
[12:56] <KuDeTa> *386
[12:57] <ZoomCities> kudeta does your nick means war?
[12:57] <KuDeTa> coup d'etat - reellion or coup yes
[12:57] <Hobbsee> got it :D
[12:57] <xsquared> can anyone help?
[12:57] <xsquared> :-s
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: he cant
[12:58] <xsquared> what can he do then?
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> but he can reboot in safe mode to reconfigure it
[12:58] <Enthusiast78> KuDeTa, 'aptitude search linux-headers' will tell you the available options.
[12:58] <xsquared> how can he do that?
[12:58] <xsquared> what does he have to do?
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> reboot into rescue mode, then type `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[12:58] <Mind-Rot> s-wx, in the server selection screen in xchat, click edit on the ubuntu server then add a /8001 after irc.freenode.net
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> when the computer boots grub counts down for 5~ seconds, hit escape while it does that, it shows a menu
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> chose the 2nd option
[12:59] <xsquared> ok
[12:59] <xsquared> and is that it?
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> then you have to step throught a guided process
[01:00] <incon> hello
[01:00] <lightstep> how can i find cursor/pointer themes for gnome? i tried searching for x-cursor-theme and x-pointer-theme in synaptic, but it didn't find any packages
[01:01] <GnarusLeo> lightstep, www.gnome-look.org
[01:02] <GnarusLeo> lightstep, or "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"
[01:02] <defrysk> lightstep, sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes
[01:02] <Enthusiast78> Can I edit the 'kernel automagic list' in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:02] <lightstep> thanks defrysk and GnarusLeo
[01:03] <defrysk> lightstep, sudo apt-get install gcursor for easy cursor management
[01:03] <defrysk> cursor theme management
[01:03] <Nabiki> How do I create a symlink under ubuntu? link -s and symlink -s are not apparently functional. ^^;;
[01:03] <Enthusiast78> Nabiki, What happens?
[01:03] <defrysk> Nabiki, ln -sf
[01:03] <lightstep> Nabiki, ln -s
[01:04] <Nabiki> Thanks
[01:04] <Nabiki> bingo!
[01:04] <Nabiki> defrysk: Thanks.
[01:05] <defrysk> commandline rules bigtime ;)
[01:05] <GnarusLeo> terminal owns :)
[01:07] <Enthusiast78> Is there a package that adds extra wallpapers to Gnome?
[01:07] <MojoRison> hello
[01:07] <GnarusLeo> Im trying to install the fglrx drivers .. so I did. But when I start gnome the screen just flickers alot, and you can barely see anything ... I have a WXGA HP Pavilion with ATI card ... anyone know?
[01:07] <lightstep> umm, which repositories contain gnome-art and xcursor-themes?
[01:07] <GnarusLeo> Enthusiast78, "apt-get install gnome-art"
[01:07] <Nabiki> I have a stupid question: Where is the sources file for apt? :P
[01:08] <Enthusiast78> GnarusLeo, Thanks! Also... Where do I put wallpapers I manually download?
[01:08] <Enthusiast78> Nabiki, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <Mind-Rot> /etc/apt/sources/list
[01:08] <defrysk> !info xcursorthemes
[01:08] <GnarusLeo> Enthusiast78, anywhere you like ..
[01:08] <Nabiki> Thanks.
[01:08] <Nabiki> :P I made a local copy of the i386 archive that I want to point too. ^^ hehe
[01:08] <defrysk> !info xcursort-hemes
[01:08] <Enthusiast78> GnarusLeo, Ok, but suppose I'd like them to be automatically available to all users?
[01:08] <defrysk> !info xcursor-themes
[01:08] <ubotu> xcursor-themes: (Base X cursor themes), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 441 kB, Installed size: 3780 kB
[01:08] <lightstep> !info xcrsor-themes
[01:09] <defrysk> lightstep, its in universe
[01:09] <lightstep> thanks
[01:09] <GnarusLeo> Enthusiast78, then find a suitable place i /usr/share ... ie: /usr/share/backgrounds
[01:09] <defrysk> !info gnome-art
[01:09] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[01:09] <defrysk> gnome-art also in universe
[01:10] <Enthusiast78> GnarusLeo, Ok.
[01:10] <xsquared> Kamping_Kaiser, it didn't work for him
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: "didnt work"?
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> what didnt work?
[01:10] <Nabiki> Hmmm...  :P   It doesn't seem to like my source line.
[01:11] <xsquared> he tried the recovery mode
[01:11] <xsquared> apparently it died too
[01:11] <Enthusiast78> Nabiki, What does it look like?
[01:11] <GnarusLeo> Im trying to install the fglrx drivers .. so I did. But when I start gnome the screen just flickers alot, and you can barely see anything ... I have a WXGA HP Pavilion with ATI card ... anyone know?
[01:11] <Nabiki> deb /c/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[01:11] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with commands to safely and manually load usb devices? please? im really worried about losing data and getting this right
[01:11] <MojoRison> hello, i'm having problems getting a good ftp client....i tried to "add applications" gftp but it couldnt be found......any help?
[01:11] <xsquared> Kamping_Kaiser, what should he do?
[01:11] <heyjoe2> or if someone could help me get ubuntu to do this automatically itd be even better?
[01:12] <xsquared> can he copy back the backup config files for X ?
[01:12] <GnarusLeo> MojoRison, gftp is a resporrity
[01:12] <xsquared> where are they stored?
[01:12] <GnarusLeo> in* even :)
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: he can use the X config for the live cd - i have done that bdfore
[01:12] <xsquared> i thought you said that didn't work
[01:13] <Nabiki> Also, is it safe to read a lot from NTFS, or is it just bad to write to it often? :P
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: did i? sorry, i was meaning it's easier using rescue mode :$
[01:13] <GnarusLeo> Nabiki, hehe .. you can read all you like :)
[01:14] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with commands to safely and manually load usb devices? please? im really worried about losing data and getting this right
[01:14] <xsquared> but wont the live cd only work on the xserver on the live cd?
[01:14] <Solatis> hello, i have a question
[01:14] <xsquared> it won't make changes to the system... will it?
[01:14] <MojoRison> thanks GnarusLeo
[01:14] <Nabiki> Ok.  ^^ /c is my "C:" drive :P But that was probably obviouse.   Did the sources line I posted look ok?
[01:14] <Solatis> i just installed ubuntu on my amd64 system... and well, X loads and all... but i cannot start any shell
[01:14] <Solatis> they just don't load
[01:14] <Solatis> Gnome doesn't fully boot
[01:14] <Solatis> neither does KDE
[01:14] <Solatis> but fluxbox/openbox do
[01:14] <Solatis> and when i try to start a shell there
[01:14] <Solatis> it just doesn't happen
[01:15] <Solatis> firefox et all work fine
[01:15] <Solatis> OOo too
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: what he can do is mount his ubuntu filesystem into the live cd, then copy the live cd Xconfig file onto his filesystem over the existsing X config
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> !enter
[01:15] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:15] <Solatis> anyone has /any/ idea what might be causing this ?
[01:15] <Solatis> i've tried both breezy and dapper, both have the same problem
[01:15] <Manny> hi :)
[01:15] <xsquared> Kamping_Kaiser, where is the X config file?
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> xsquared: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (capital X then 11)
[01:16] <Solatis> other distributions (i've tried gentoo) do work fine, so it is not my system i think
[01:19] <Solatis> oh i just found out, xterm /does/ work tho... but when starting gnome-panel or gnome-terminal from xterm, nothing displays at all... no output no nothing
[01:19] <Solatis> could this be some amd64 problem ?
[01:19] <defrysk> Solatis, used anything like automatix ?
[01:19] <Nabiki> I figured it out. :)
[01:19] <GTX> Is there a new humon theme out I hear?
[01:20] <defrysk> GTX, in dapper yes
[01:20] <Solatis> defrysk: i have no idea what that is, so no i don't think so
[01:20] <defrysk> Solatis, good
[01:20] <thegladiator> is it possible to adjust the margin size of nautilus window ? at the moment I havea window theme called Black which has a thick border
[01:21] <Jhair> thegladiator: AFAIK that is theme-dependant, no configurable, but I can be wrong
[01:21] <defrysk> thegladiator, contact the maker of that theme
[01:21] <thegladiator> Jhair, I have been told the same , but I thought it cud be configurable someway as in KDE
[01:21] <thegladiator> defrysk, okay
[01:22] <heyjoe2> how do i get libmp3lame.so ? can anyone help me. i tried downloading the lame-3.96.1.tar.gz but i cant find what audacity needs
[01:22] <Solatis> but this is really weird... i mean, when starting gnome-terminal, i see a window being loaded, a black contents (where normally a shell would appear), but nothing appears, it just stays black...
[01:22] <defrysk> heyjoe2, sudo apt-get install lame
[01:22] <defrysk> should do it
[01:22] <Nabiki> What is a good program to configure the network with at the command line?
[01:23] <heyjoe2> defrysk: it says i already have it, which i do, cos i downloaded it from synaptic, but audacity keeps  asking for the  libmp3lame.so
[01:24] <defrysk> heyjoe2, try lame-extras liblame-dev liblame0
[01:25] <heyjoe2> defrysk: do i have to type anything before that
[01:25] <heyjoe2> sudo or anything?
[01:25] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install  lame-extras liblame-dev liblame0
[01:26] <eXistenZ> the mozilla mplayer plugin didn't work for ff 1.5 here, is there any other plugin?
[01:27] <heyjoe2> defrysk: do i have to type anything before lame-extras liblame-dev liblame0
[01:27] <GTX> defrysk, got a screenshot of the new one in dapper?
[01:27] <heyjoe2> woops sorry
[01:27] <defrysk> heyjoe2,  sudo apt-get install  lame-extras liblame-dev liblame0
[01:27] <defrysk> GTX, one sec
[01:29] <jlinden_> hi! could someone tell me how to get started with postfix? I just need to connect to my isp's mail server and send mail...
[01:29] <heyjoe2> defrysk: audacity is still asking me for it
[01:29] <heyjoe2> also i get an error msg when i start audacity
[01:29] <heyjoe2> could that have something to do with it
[01:30] <heyjoe2> defrysk: It says: There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio
[01:30] <defrysk> GTX, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/human.png
[01:31] <defrysk> heyjoe2, not sure how to fix that :(
[01:31] <visik7> how can I change the size and font of gtk1 apps ?
[01:31] <heyjoe2> defrysk: cheers anyway. anyone else able to help me
[01:31] <jlinden_> or does anyone know any good tutorial on sendmail... i just need to be able to send mail from my workstation..
[01:31] <Seveas> defrysk, funky colors 
[01:31] <CarinArr> ew
[01:31] <CarinArr> ;)
[01:31] <BlueEagle> Has any one else noticed an enormous increace in scanning on port 3450?
[01:31] <defrysk> Seveas, a bit to loud for my linking ;)
[01:31] <GTX> defrysk, looks weird :S. did you upgrade from breezy or fresh install?
[01:31] <brenner> visik7: you can't afaik.  i hate the look of gtk1 apps too.
[01:32] <visik7> brenner: I CAN'T !??!!?
[01:32] <Seveas> defrysk, yeah, but those are not the Human colors
[01:32] <Seveas> that's orange
[01:32] <defrysk> GTX, frsh install from a feb4 iso
[01:32] <visik7> jlinden_: u don't need sendmail to send mail from your workstation (to be honest u don't need sendmail at all)
[01:32] <defrysk> Seveas, its the standard hubuntu theme in dapper now
[01:32] <defrysk> -h
[01:32] <heyjoe2> defrysk: in that case, know any apps that will convert from wma to mp3 other than audacity
[01:32] <GTX> morning Seveas :)
[01:32] <Seveas> defrysk, no it's not 
[01:33] <jlinden_> visik7, :well its actually my homework to use some mta and send mail through my isp's mail server...
[01:33] <defrysk> Seveas, what then ?
[01:33] <Seveas> the red and black are definitely not part of it
[01:33] <dradul> jlinden_, you don't need a full flesged MTA to send mail from anywhere, what do you want to do exactly?
[01:33] <visik7> jlinden_: use qmail or postfix
[01:33] <Seveas> defrysk, orange and brown
[01:33] <defrysk> Seveas, ask around and find out ;)
[01:33] <Seveas> defrysk, I'm using it myself
[01:33] <Seveas> maybe you need to logout/login
[01:34] <defrysk> heyjoe2, lame -h goo_sound.wav mp3_sound.mp3
[01:34] <brenner> visik7: like i said, not afaik
[01:34] <heyjoe2> Could not find "goo_sound.wav"
[01:34] <defrysk> !pastebin
[01:34] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:35] <visik7> brenner: maybe I've found something
[01:35] <Nabiki> I keep recieving an error message in dpkg:    dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependty <= 4' failed.
[01:35] <dradul> jlinden_, you may use a null-mailer. There are many of them. I happen to like esmtp. Other like msmtp (which works best with mutt).
[01:35] <heyjoe2> defrysk: did u want me to use pastebin?
[01:36] <BlueEagle> !info castor
[01:36] <jlinden_> dradul, hmm ok thanks ill google some info on those
[01:36] <brenner> visik7: do tell
[01:37] <defrysk> heyjoe2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9952
[01:38] <defrysk> heyjoe2, copy and name that file wma2mp3.pl
[01:38] <jlinden_> damn how do i send priv messages here? :)
[01:38] <heyjoe2> defrysk: ok
[01:38] <heyjoe2> how do i name it
[01:38] <dradul> jlinden_, I posted this small how-to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132398
[01:38] <defrysk> heyjoe2, READ!!
[01:38] <visik7> brenner: gtk-theme-switch
[01:38] <defrysk> geez
[01:38] <visik7> brenner: it handle also fonts
[01:39] <visik7> but doesn't seems to work
[01:39] <heyjoe2> defrysk: im sorry, i dont quite understand
 heyjoe2, copy and name that file wma2mp3.pl
[01:39] <jlinden_> dradul, oh cool thanks!
[01:39] <defrysk> what would be the name then ????
[01:39] <brenner> visik7: what app in particular is irking you?
[01:39] <BlueEagle> Why is there no #Ubuntu-security? :)
[01:39] <heyjoe2> defrysk: which file
[01:39] <visik7> brenner: dvdrip
[01:40] <defrysk> from pastebin
[01:40] <heyjoe2> defrysk: how do i save it. where?
[01:40] <visik7> brenner: it's so big that I can't see all dialog in one 1024x768 monitor
[01:40] <heyjoe2> oh i get it
[01:40] <heyjoe2> in pastebin
[01:40] <heyjoe2> ?
[01:40] <defrysk> heyjoe2, nm
[01:41] <brenner> visik7: that's pretty bad.  i've never used it myself
[01:41] <joefso3> hello
[01:41] <brenner> visik7: do you know about the alt+left-drag trick?
[01:41] <heyjoe2> defrysk: http://pastebin.com/594295
[01:41] <joefso3> How does xgl work ?
[01:41] <visik7> brenner: yes I know but it sucks anyway
[01:42] <brenner> yeah.  hopefully the next version will be gtk2 then
[01:43] <heyjoe2> defrysk: ok. does anyone else know what applications would be good to convert wav to mp3 other than audacity
[01:43] <heyjoe2> woops not meant to be to defrysk
[01:43] <crimsun> gst-launch-0.8 or gst-launch-0.10
[01:44] <__rfkillhater> hi
[01:44] <crimsun> or mpg321 / mpg123-oss-i486
[01:44] <__rfkillhater> how can o turn OFF the god damn rf kill switch ubuntu suddenly decides to turn on?
[01:44] <__rfkillhater> every random reboot it turns of the rf kill switcg
[01:44] <__rfkillhater> and its really annoying'
[01:45] <__rfkillhater> can anyone please tell me what to echo to what procfile?'
[01:46] <__rfkillhater> hi?
[01:46] <brenner> dumb question: what's an rf kill switch?
[01:46] <__rfkillhater> some dumb shit that makes your wifi card not work
[01:47] <__rfkillhater> ubuntu is the ONLY os that ever has turned it off for me without me knowing'
[01:47] <__rfkillhater> theres some poc file i can echo to
[01:47] <__rfkillhater> but nobody seems to want to answer
[01:47] <__rfkillhater> procfile even
[01:48] <visik7> brenner: what program that u use is in gtk1 ?
[01:48] <brenner> visik7: xmms
[01:49] <__rfkillhater> bleh time to change os then i guess
[01:49] <__rfkillhater> cant get no work done without wifi
[01:50] <bobyfixer> i hate you
[01:50] <brenner> __rfkillhater: have you tried the forum?
[01:50] <__rfkillhater> dont waste yourb hate
[01:50] <__rfkillhater> brenner yes
[01:50] <pinkisntwell> anybody know how can I record stuff in ubuntu? neither audacity or sound recorder works
[01:50] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: what are you recording with?
[01:50] <pinkisntwell> with my microphone
[01:51] <bobyfixer> i hate pinkisntwell
[01:51] <crimsun> bobyfixer: go troll elsewhere
[01:51] <Jhair> ignore bobyfixer
[01:51] <Jhair> ups
[01:51] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: have you selected the mic for recording (toggled it with the spacebar in alsamixer/F4 and unmuted it 'm')?
[01:51] <pinkisntwell> audacity has the known problem which won't let it record and sound recorder crashes
[01:52] <bobyfixer> i hate peeps
[01:52] <pinkisntwell> i know my mic is working because I use skype daily
[01:52] <bobyfixer> i hate pinkisntwell
[01:52] <__rfkillhater> ubuntu forums never has what im looking for, atleast not using the search features
[01:53] <olebodvar> hello?
[01:53] <IdleOne> hello
[01:53] <brenner> __rfkillhater: what about the mailing list?
[01:54] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: what is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio source set to?
[01:54] <pinkisntwell> ALSA
[01:54] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: does setting it to esd or oss resolve that issue?
[01:55] <pinkisntwell> let me see
[01:55] <brenner> __rfkillhater: i wouldn't give up so easily though.  it may be just that the wireless gurus in here aren't active atm
[01:56] <pinkisntwell> well, maybe it's a problem with sound recorder, it crashes when I try to stop the recording
[01:57] <p3jk0> :D ubuntu is sooo nice :)) i like it !
[01:57] <IdleOne> p3jk0>  glad to hear :)
[01:57] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: you should be able to test System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio source> esd/oss [Test] 
[01:57] <p3jk0> :)
[01:57] <pinkisntwell> test works for esd/oss, crashes for alsa, sound recorder crashes with all of them
[01:58] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: set it to oss, then use audacity to record something
[01:59] <pinkisntwell> hmmm i uninstalled audacity, should i install it again?
[01:59] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: yes
[01:59] <ardchoille> Any way to get nautilus to auto-open gedit regarding this: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7454/screenshot6pc.jpg
[01:59] <pinkisntwell> ok
[01:59] <brenner> how does one upgrade a single package via apt-get?
[01:59] <p3jk0> may i ask... ? is on linux any icq client 100% compatibile with ICQ :o) ?
[02:00] <crimsun> brenner: sudo apt-get install foo
[02:00] <brenner> cheers
[02:00] <pinkisntwell> audacity gives the known error when starting up
[02:00] <crimsun> p3jk0: gaim, licq, centericq, ...
[02:00] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: turn off esd first, then
[02:00] <IdleOne> crimsun>  cant one apt-get update packagename ? never tried it though
[02:00] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: System> Preferences> Sound> disable sound server startup
[02:01] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: and make sure you close all other open sound apps
[02:01] <pinkisntwell> yes but I do need esd in general... should I definitely disable it to get sound recording working?
[02:01] <p3jk0> crimsun: cant transfer files :(
[02:01] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: generally, no, but for audacity, yes
[02:01] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: have you tried arecord directly from the cli?
[02:02] <pinkisntwell> no
[02:02] <pinkisntwell> does it need to kill esd?
[02:02] <IdleOne> ardchoille>  in terminal type sudo geit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <IdleOne> ardchoille>  in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <ardchoille> IdleOne: yes, I know about that way, but since I already had nautilus open and not the term..
[02:03] <pinkisntwell> why does sound recorder crash on me though? is it a known bug?
[02:03] <brenner> another easy one hopefully: how do we know which packages are upgradeable using apt-get besides comparing package versions with the currently installed version?
[02:03] <joelw23> how do i add more screen resolutions after an install??
[02:04] <brenner> ubotu: tell joelw23 about fixres
[02:04] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: there are lots of possible reasons; have you checked Malone?
[02:04] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: and no, you shouldn't be forced to stop esd
[02:04] <joelw23> thanks
[02:04] <pinkisntwell> i think I have submitted the sound recorder thing as a bug, let me check
[02:05] <heyjoe2> could someone please recommend an application that lets me convert wav to mp3
[02:05] <heyjoe2> other than audacity
[02:05] <mattafix> how do u download stuff on ubuntu
[02:06] <ardchoille> mattafix: gwget, wget, d4x, firefox.. there are lots of ways
[02:06] <crimsun> heyjoe2: I gave you others' names
[02:06] <IdleOne> !tell mattafix about repos
[02:06] <Nabiki> Is there a decent location to learn how to configure the network for the system? :)
[02:06] <IdleOne> !tell mattafix about apt
[02:06] <crimsun> heyjoe2: gst-launch-0.8 (hoary/breezy), gst-launch-0.10 (dapper), mpg321 / mpg123-oss-i486, etc.
[02:07] <p3jk0> :D you must have it busy here with so many questions.. hmm... how can i change y a z?
[02:07] <ardchoille> mattafix: sorry, I may have misunderstood you.. if you meant how do you download and install new apps, then ubotu sent you the proper info
[02:08] <tushkee> hey guys, d'you know how to change my networking setting from DHCP to STATIC IP via the terminal? what's the command?
[02:08] <DUMAiSO> Is it safe to run dist-upgrade on dapper flight4?
[02:09] <LordSavage> yes
[02:09] <DUMAiSO> ok
[02:09] <LordSavage> but it will remove openoffice
[02:09] <LordSavage> u have to reinstall it later
[02:09] <heyjoe2> crimsun: sorry i didnt see u recommend others
[02:09] <heyjoe2> crimsun: im on breezy, what should i type in terminal exactly?
[02:09] <crimsun> heyjoe2: man gst-launch-0.8
[02:09] <pinkisntwell> hmmm there are plenty of bugs for sound recorder on malone
[02:09] <crimsun> heyjoe2: scroll to the bottom, look at the examples
[02:09] <Ulath> i have x server problem with LG LE50 Express notebook
[02:10] <Ulath> i can not run gdm
[02:10] <Ulath> or startx
[02:10] <brenner> Ulath: what happens?
[02:10] <psychomancer> j\#ubuntu.de
[02:10] <gwaf> hi, i'm running dapper and my network never comes up at boot. I have to do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:10] <eXistenZ> when will firefox 1.5 be added to the repos. ?
[02:10] <jlinden_> could someone give me brief instructions on how to put email in nullmain queue and then send it...?
[02:10] <eXistenZ> the breezy repos
[02:10] <ardchoille> eXistenZ: it won't
[02:11] <dobrev> how to make router ???
[02:11] <pinkisntwell> I think this is the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/10540 apparently it's been fixed, I don't know
[02:11] <eXistenZ> ardchoille, why?
[02:11] <gwaf> any ideas on how to solve this?
[02:11] <Ulath> brenner: gdm gives no screen founds error but i checked by hand all of the xorg.conf file everthinh is correct and screen definitions are valid
[02:11] <jlinden_> oops i mean nullmail, not nullmain
[02:11] <ardchoille> eXistenZ: requires too much work
[02:11] <heyjoe2> crimsun: im a real beginner to linux and i dont know what that means
[02:11] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: perhaps you can test with flight 5 tomorrow
[02:11] <heyjoe2> crimsun: is there an app i can get off synaptic or something?
[02:11] <crimsun> heyjoe2: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[02:11] <p3> anybody know how can i change encoding??? :)
[02:11] <crimsun> heyjoe2: in terminal, type: man gst-launch-0.8
[02:11] <pinkisntwell> I'll give arecord a shot
[02:11] <tushkee> hey guys, d'you know how to change my networking setting from DHCP to STATIC IP via the terminal? what's the command? Anyone please? thanks
[02:11] <eXistenZ> ardchoille, is it recommended to install it?
[02:12] <brenner> just read slashdot re: gnupg security hole... is gnupg 1.4.1-1ubuntu1 in the repos equivalent to 1.4.2.2?
[02:12] <cyphase> anyone know where i can get a deb of Network Manager 0.60?
[02:12] <crimsun> heyjoe2: scroll down to the bottom of the man page with shift+G (or just use the down arrow)
[02:12] <pinkisntwell> is arecord reliable?
[02:12] <crimsun> brenner: no
[02:12] <Hobbsee> brenner: no it isnt, it needs updating
[02:12] <heyjoe2> crimsun: i know how to type it in the terminal, i just dont know what all that stuff means about the pipeline and stuff
[02:12] <brenner> Ulath: what driver are you using?
[02:12] <crimsun> pinkisntwell: it's the very basic ALSA recording tool. Yes.
[02:12] <crimsun> heyjoe2: just follow the examples
[02:12] <pinkisntwell> crimsun: okay, thanks for all the help
[02:12] <brenner> crimsun, Hobbsee: but the fix will be made avaiable va the repos?
[02:12] <ardchoille> eXistenZ: you can install it from source, but if you do I suggest you back up ~/.mozilla/firefox because 1.5 will over-write it
[02:13] <brenner> s/va/via
[02:13] <ardchoille> eXistenZ: I learned that the hard way
[02:13] <crimsun> brenner: it will be in {breezy,hoary,warty}-security in a matter of hours, yes
[02:13] <Hobbsee> brenner: like all security updates, i would assume so, yes
[02:13] <brenner> crimsun:, Hobbsee: cheers.
[02:13] <heyjoe2> crimsun: i dont get it. http://pastebin.com/594326 are these the examples
[02:14] <Ulath> brenner: default driver comes with badger
[02:14] <crimsun> heyjoe2: that's the _top_ (or _beginning_) of the man page. You need to scroll to the _bottom_ (or _end_)
[02:14] <_Felix> Hello
[02:14] <brenner> Ulath: you could try reconfigging xorg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:14] <_Felix> How can I login as 'root' ? I want to add some headers to GCC... :-/
[02:14] <kerang2k> hello
[02:14] <heyjoe2> crimsun: thats a lotta text
[02:15] <kerang2k> good evening to all members.
[02:15] <kerang2k> :)
[02:15] <Ulath> brenner: i tried it but it still gives the same error
[02:15] <Ulath> brenner: now i am trying mandriva 2006
[02:15] <ardchoille> _Felix: use sudo, the root account is disabled
[02:15] <_Felix> how can I copy with Terminal?
[02:15] <dobrev> does anyone can help me to make one comp router for the other
[02:15] <brenner> Ulath: can you pastebin the failing log: /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[02:16] <ardchoille> _Felix:  cp /path/to/source /path/to/target
[02:16] <heyjoe2> crimsun: so whenever i want to conver i do  gst-launch filesrc location=music.wav ! wavparse ! mpegaudio  !
[02:16] <heyjoe2>        filesink location=music.mp3
[02:16] <_Felix> oh
[02:16] <_Felix> cp, thanks
[02:16] <HymnToLife> dobrev> is he "router" comp win or ubuntu ?
[02:16] <heyjoe2> crimsun: where do i change it to imput the name of the song and where it comes from?
[02:16] <ardchoille> _Felix: If it's a folder full of files and you want to copy all files and subfolders in the folder:  cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/target
[02:17] <heyjoe2> crimsun: is there a synaptic application for it. id feel more comforatble using an app
[02:17] <Ulath> brenner: no eth exists :(
[02:17] <brenner> eth?
[02:17] <_Felix> k,k
[02:17] <kerang2k> is it difficult to setup DNS server under ubuntu?  any guide to it?
[02:17] <dobrev> ubuntu --> win
[02:17] <_Felix> there's man for that... :), just didnt know how it goes... thx
[02:18] <kerang2k> thanks felix
[02:18] <crimsun> heyjoe2: what are you trying to do?
[02:18] <heyjoe2> crimsun: trying to convert a wav file into an mp3
[02:18] <dobrev> HymnToLif> ubuntu --> win
[02:18] <heyjoe2> for the purposes of my mp3player. and audacity doesnt work
[02:19] <Yagisan> G'day all. Can anyone suggest a simple tv recording app ? I don't need something like mythtv, just something simple that I can tune in the channel, hit record and have it dump uncompressed video and audio to disk.
[02:19] <crimsun> Yagisan: tvtime
[02:19] <Yagisan> crimsun: that records ?
[02:19] <crimsun> (keep in mind I don't have a tv tuner card)
[02:19] <_Felix> why do you thank me?
[02:19] <killian> in your opinion, whicg filesystem is faster: ext3 or reiserfs?
[02:19] <ubuntu> hello
[02:19] <_Felix> hello
[02:20] <dobrev> HymnToLife> ubuntu router for  win & ubuntu machine
[02:20] <Nabiki> Is there a way to get a root terminal in ubuntu?
[02:20] <ubuntu> i am online?
[02:20] <_Felix> hehe
[02:20] <_Felix> no
[02:20] <Nabiki> Without rebooting that is. hehe
[02:20] <Yagisan> killian: depends on what it is used for
[02:20] <HymnToLife> dobrev > you have a wiki page which explains it all
[02:20] <crimsun> Yagisan: dvr, vdr
[02:20] <_Felix> use sudo... that's what they told me... :/
[02:20] <brenner> ubuntu: apparently :)
[02:20] <ubuntu> i am trying ubuntu on live cd
[02:20] <IdleOne> !tell Nabiki about root
[02:20] <milamber> hello there, someone can tell me how to add mc
[02:20] <heyjoe2> crimsun: im trying to convert a wav file into mp3. for the purposes of my mp3 player. and audacity doesnt work
[02:21] <brenner> ubuntu: welcome
[02:21] <HymnToLife> dobrev> here you go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[02:21] <crimsun> Yagisan: and of course, mencoder
[02:21] <brenner> milamber: enable universe repo, then install it via any apt tool
[02:21] <Yagisan> crimsun: just installed tvtime. It doesn't have a record function (but seems very nice for viewing)
[02:21] <kerang2k> wow great DNS setting under ubuntu is known as BIND9
[02:21] <crimsun> Yagisan: (but no, tvtime doesn't record)
[02:21] <kerang2k> so i found de article and guide
[02:21] <kerang2k> great great and thanks to google
[02:21] <kerang2k> :)
[02:21] <HymnToLife> heyjoe2> don't forget lame to creare mp3
[02:21] <Inf3cteD> koi shte mi pomogne za ubuntu
[02:21] <_Felix> ubuntu: do you know ubuntu? I know felixes... :D
[02:21] <Inf3cteD> koi shte mi pomogne za ubuntu
[02:22] <ubuntu> why cannot the last letter of every line be display?
[02:22] <crimsun> Yagisan: in fact, tvtime's FAQ recommends mencoder
[02:22] <milamber> enable universe repo trough /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:22] <Inf3cteD> znachi napravih si virtualno pc zaredeno s linux ubuntu ami kak da vijda neshtata ot windowsa
[02:22] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:22] <brenner> milamber: yes, that's one method
[02:22] <brenner> ubotu: tell milamber about repos
[02:22] <IdleOne> !tell milamber  about repos
[02:22] <milamber> thnx brenner
[02:22] <crimsun> heyjoe2: something like: gst-launch filesrc location=music.wav ! wavparse ! audioconvert ! lame ! filesink location=music.mp3
[02:23] <defrysk> heyjoe2, sudo apt-get install soundkonverter (its a kde app but hey )
[02:23] <crimsun> !info gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:23] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-lame: (LAME encoder plugin for GStreamer), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[02:23] <Yagisan> crimsun: I should smack myself for not thinking of mencoder earlier - I'm supposed to be a motumedia guy. time to apt-get install coffee
[02:23] <crimsun> heyjoe2: you need to install gstreamer0.8-lame from multiverse, of course
[02:23] <killian> when installing kubuntu, i formatted the / as reiserfs
[02:23] <crimsun> Yagisan: :)
[02:23] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:23] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:23] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:23] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:23] <Inf3cteD> help
[02:23] <crimsun> Inf3cteD: shush
[02:23] <killian> i wonder if there's any speed gain by formatting / as ext3, or maybe ext2
[02:24] <heyjoe2> crimsun: ive already installed lame
[02:24] <crimsun> heyjoe2: not lame. gstreamer0.8-lame.
[02:24] <heyjoe2> ok
[02:24] <Yagisan> killian: big files ? small files ? what sort of system is it ?
[02:24] <heyjoe2> crimsum: how do i install that-synaptic?
[02:24] <killian> u know
[02:24] <killian> average home user
[02:24] <_Felix> well, bye
[02:24] <IdleOne> killian>  you can try fluxbox, openbox, xfce4 to speed up your pc a some
[02:24] <brenner> Inf3cteD: what's your native language?
[02:24] <crimsun> heyjoe2: yes, enable the multiverse repo first
[02:24] <_Felix> i'm going to try cp
[02:25] <heyjoe2> crimsun:i think ive done that
[02:25] <killian> i think reiserfs is slowing down my pc
[02:25] <killian> if i format / as ext2, i bet there'll be big performance gain
[02:25] <heyjoe2> ive got g streamer
[02:25] <IdleOne> killian>  you can give it a try
[02:25] <heyjoe2> crimsun: that one
[02:26] <brenner> er, wouldn't ext2 be older ad therefore slower than ext3? (i obviously have no idea)
[02:26] <Yagisan> killian: to be honest, I don't know what you use your box for. ext3 works ok for general purpose
[02:26] <Chousuke> brenner: ext3 is ext2 with a journal.
[02:27] <killian> i use my box for entertainment
[02:27] <killian> surf the net, watch a movie
[02:27] <Chousuke> brenner: in most cases, ext3 is superior to ext2.
[02:27] <killian> nothing too demanding, i guess
[02:27] <heyjoe2> crimsun: im download soundconverter from synaptic. it didnt work in terminal. thanks for ure help
[02:27] <killian> so my question is: switching from reiserfs to ext2 or ext3 will make my linux box run faster?
[02:27] <milamber> thnx it worked, is there btw an easy way to install .deb packagesd ? ive used  dpkg -install command  bu\th i think there has to be an grapical interface ? or is it also with synaptic possible ( like for instance the nero package
[02:27] <brenner> Chousuke: so why would he go for an un-journaled system?  wouldn't that mean fragmentation?
[02:28] <Chousuke> brenner: un-journaled system is a bit faster.
[02:28] <brenner> i see
[02:28] <killian> ext2 is unjournalled?
[02:28] <Chousuke> but in his case, the benefits are not worth what he would lose.
[02:28] <Yagisan> killian: ext3 should be fine. reserfs is slow for deletes, but very good for small files.
[02:28] <lightstep> hello. i installed ubuntu on a disk with windows, and i want to access the NTFS and FAT partitions i already have. the gnome Disks Manager identifies them, and if i create directories for them, it will mont them too, but with the wrong permissions (500 and 755 instread of 555 and 777). how can i fix it?
[02:28] <Chousuke> killian: yes.
[02:29] <Chousuke> killian: as I said before, ext3 is ext2 with a journal
[02:29] <brenner> milamber: you should use the official repos whenver possible.
[02:29] <killian> aha
[02:29] <Chousuke> killian: you can mount ext3 without the journal and it's ext2
[02:29] <killian> so ext2 is the fastest
[02:29] <Chousuke> killian: the performance gain is negligible.
[02:29] <IdleOne> killian>  I suspect its your WM try using xfce4 and see if that suits your needs
[02:30] <brenner> lightstep: sys >help > starter guide > windows partitions
[02:30] <killian> possibly
[02:30] <milamber> @brenner i'll try always to use the official repos, i didnd expect that there was a nero package in ubuntu
[02:30] <tucoz> Hello, I wonder if it's safe to remove older kernels from my ubuntu install. The list in grub is starting to be quite long nowadays
[02:30] <Chousuke> killian: especially because you sacrifice reliability.
[02:30] <Chousuke> tucoz: should be.
[02:30] <Chousuke> tucoz: just don't remove the running kernel
[02:30] <tucoz> Chousuke, :)
[02:30] <ardchoille> lol
[02:30] <brenner> milamber: no. for some apps, there won't be any packages for them.  but now you've enabled universe )you may want to enable multiverse too), you should have a lot more packages to choose from.
[02:30] <Chousuke> it would work till the machine is rebooted, but it wouldn't boot up anymore. :)
[02:31] <brenner> milamber: you may want to try k3b.  it's a very popular app for cd stuff
[02:31] <Yagisan> killian: I would not say ext2 is fastest. That would be jfs, xfs or ext3 depending on the system
[02:32] <milamber> @brenner, k, wil look for that also, its quit different then debian, installing ubunu, there r some differences like the root acces etc etc.
[02:32] <Enialle> OLAAAA
[02:32] <IdleOne> killian>  reformat if you like but I would still try a diff Wm before reinstalling ..besides if xfce4 doesnt suit your needs then you will reformat anyway so might as well give it a try
[02:32] <killian> if i try using ext2, there is a much bigger possibility of losing data, right?
[02:33] <dyegocm> ghghfg
[02:33] <Yagisan> killian: yes, if your system is not shut down properly eg blackout
[02:33] <killian> or i reset it
[02:33] <killian> it happens
[02:33] <brenner> milamber: how are you liking it so far?
[02:33] <killian> with journalled systems, if i reset the pc, nothing happens
[02:34] <killian> with ext2, it does a fsck
[02:34] <killian> and finds lost files
[02:34] <lightstep> brenner, thank you for the pointer (one thing, though, it didn't come with my system, only on the internet)
[02:35] <brenner> lightstep: ser, what didn't?
[02:35] <brenner> s/ser/er
[02:35] <Chousuke> killian: you should keep ext3 in any case.
[02:35] <lightstep> the starter guide (i have 6.04)
[02:35] <felix> hi, I need some help with ATI and Xgl/compiz, I got the fglrx-driver to work, but when I start the Xgl-server, gdm screen works, but after that I get ugly graphic artefacts and the mouse still works. The xorg-log says something about a missing /dev/dri/card*, but this exists....
[02:36] <brenner> lightstep: ah. in that case. consult this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:36] <heyjoe2> ARGHHHH why isnt soundconverter working
[02:36] <IdleOne> felix>  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[02:36] <felix> ok, thanks
[02:36] <lightstep> yes, i got many liks on a google search
[02:36] <kimo> will ubuntu make my ipw2200 WLAN card work automagically ? (I am considering installing it)
[02:36] <milamber> @brenner, quite good, it is easyer to install, the desktop works right away, just need to do some fine tuning like set to 70 Hz instead of 75Hz ( display) for a desktop i do like it, my server is still running on regular deb,  i'm go to play with ubuntu for a while, who nows maybe i'll try a server with it, . buth server setting is easy for my with debian beacause i dont like a graphical server so its maybe faster..
[02:36] <Anubis> make menuconfig NOT WORK!!!!
[02:36] <crimsun> kimo: I'm using Ubuntu with ipw2195ABG just fine
[02:37] <crimsun> Anubis: hoary, breezy, or dapper?
[02:37] <Anubis> why i need download stupid pack
[02:37] <Anubis> breezy
[02:37] <brenner> lightstep: that shows you how to edit /etc/fstab to get the options right (see the Mounting partitions manuallysection)
[02:37] <kimo> crimsun: so it worked out of the box, or did u have to hack around ?
[02:37] <joelw23>  if my pc has a mp3 share of  \\server\mymusic how do i connect to in in ubuntu
[02:38] <kimo> joelw23: smb:/ in yast
[02:38] <kimo> joelw23: smb:/ in konqueror sorry
[02:38] <crimsun> Anubis: make sure you have build-essential, gcc-3.4, and libncurses5-dev installed
[02:38] <joelw23> i'm trying to connect to it in mythtv
[02:38] <crimsun> kimo: out of the box from Hoary onward
[02:38] <Anubis> crimsun
[02:39] <rd06> hi users of Ubuntu !!!
[02:39] <brenner> milamber: OOI, why lower the rate?  i thought the less flicker the better?
[02:39] <milamber> @brenner main reason that i choose for ubuntu now is that my girlfriend had a hard time with debian, and sinse there is no windows in the house anymore, id need an easy to use easy to update linux dis, .. the update of ubuntu is great so far :D
[02:39] <IdleOne> heya rd06
[02:39] <heyjoe2> you know what i like about windows-programs tend to work first time every time. arghh
[02:40] <sixtymhz> how is debian harder than ubuntu??
[02:40] <milamber> @brenner lower the rate of the screen has to do with the experiments i do with skystar 2 card, and a modular dvb it wont work on 75Hz
[02:40] <brenner> heyjoe2: i wonder why.
[02:41] <brenner> milamber: ah.  well anyway, good to hear you're liking it
[02:41] <Chousuke> heyjoe2: you mean they work the first time after installation, cease to work the next time, and after you re-install, they work agains?
[02:41] <Chousuke> -s
[02:41] <tushkee> haha, can you telle me guys why PASTE function in Ubuntu is still malfunctinoal?
[02:41] <killian> any ideas why lm_sensors doesnt work?
[02:41] <heyjoe2> brenner: yes i know i know nothing about this but its still taken me hours to get the simplest thing done
[02:41] <milamber> @sixtymhz the update tool for instance is easyar to use for someone ( autoupdate )
[02:41] <kerang2k> found guide on how to configure samba as domain controller as well..  dis is really cool
[02:41] <Chousuke> tushkee: malfunctional?
[02:41] <Chousuke> tushkee: paint some text and middle-click :P
[02:41] <KuDeTa> heya would anybody mind taking a minute to work out an ionstalltion of new driver with me..i have to recompile my new kernel to get online, but the istructions arn't ubuntu specific.. here they are http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX
[02:41] <rambo3> my windows programs usaly work 30 days ,then i have to pay money to contiuen using them
[02:42] <KuDeTa> i need to get the kernel source
[02:42] <brenner> hehe
[02:42] <Nidah> hi
[02:42] <sixtymhz> Oh.  Maybe its because my face is always in the terminal and I really don't notice much about the gui.
[02:42] <KuDeTa> i tried installing kernel-package
[02:42] <Nidah> looking for help
[02:42] <KuDeTa> but doesn't seem to help
[02:42] <tushkee> Chousuke : open 2 message windows on GAIM....type something on the text box of the first window. copy it. then close it. Now, try to paste that text to the second window. IF YOU CAN. LOL.
[02:42] <Chousuke> tushkee: ah, that.
[02:43] <Nidah> i need help with grub and real playerinstall
[02:43] <milamber> @sixtymhz 've don that also for a while, buth my girlfriend didnt like lynx as a brwoser :d
[02:43] <heyjoe2> for the basic user, windows seems to let u play mp3s, use usbs and convert file formats without this much headache. plus amarok is buggy! argh
[02:43] <tushkee> Chousuke: is that GAIM specific?
[02:43] <visik7> I've follow this guid http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107135 but gtk1 apps still so ugly
[02:43] <Chousuke> tushkee: no.
[02:43] <Chousuke> tushkee: that's because X sucks
[02:43] <IdleOne> !tell Nidah  about realplayer
[02:43] <heyjoe2> !realplayer
[02:43] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:43] <tushkee> Chousuke: i see. man, that's like basic function in an OS.
[02:43] <scav> how can i add cups printers for just one user
[02:43] <Chousuke> tushkee: not really.
[02:43] <MasterC> hi
[02:43] <AngryElf> anyone have ibook experience----what's the best way to dual-boot ubuntu/osx on an ibook?
[02:43] <Chousuke> tushkee: it's a basic functionality of the GUI
[02:44] <Nidah> ok i downloaded the real player10 bin file
[02:44] <Chousuke> tushkee: but X sucks anyway
[02:44] <kimo> I will be installing dapper beta-4, are there any show stopper bugs, or should I go ahead ?
[02:44] <KuDeTa> plz help?
[02:44] <tushkee> Chousuke: okay, forgive my use of OS. but yeah, GUI.
[02:44] <Chousuke> tushkee: I think they're trying to come up with some clipboard-server solution for that.
[02:44] <KuDeTa> i just need to know how to get the kernel souce propperly ready?
[02:44] <Nidah> and tried using commands suggested in real.com to install it but terminal window says it cant find a bin file
[02:44] <HymnToLife> AngryElf> just the same way as dual booting Windows I guess
[02:44] <tushkee> Chousuke: not Ubuntu specific too right? just X in general?
[02:45] <brenner> Nidah: what command did you use?
[02:45] <Chousuke> tushkee: yeah.
[02:45] <HymnToLife> Nidah> why not just get a .deb and install it ?
[02:45] <Nidah> ok lemme see
[02:45] <rambo3> just  run it and use simlink to /usr/sbin/
[02:45] <tushkee> Chousuke: thx for the insights ;)
[02:45] <AngryElf> windows requires some tricky configs......i wouldn't think osx would since it's unix-like
[02:46] <Nidah> chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[02:46] <AngryElf> windows to have the mbr in the first x sectors or something......i forgot exactly what it is
[02:46] <KuDeTa> lol
[02:46] <rambo3> mini grub
[02:46] <KuDeTa> plzzzz help?
[02:46] <Nidah> chmod: cannot access `RealPlayer10GOLD.bin': No such file or directory
[02:46] <Chousuke> AngryElf: iBook is PPC.
[02:46] <Sp4rKy> anyone does know how read a .flv file ?
[02:47] <brenner> Nidah: where did you save it?
[02:47] <kimo> anyone using sk98lin driver with ubuntu ? did u have to recompile the kernel!
[02:47] <AngryElf> i know.....i didn't think that had anything to do with it though
[02:47] <rambo3> Kudeta what do you mean?
[02:47] <Chousuke> AngryElf: that means you will not be able to use many proprietary plugins in Ubuntu PPC, including flash and w32codecs.
[02:47] <Chousuke> I don't know if Java for PPC linux exists.
[02:47] <KuDeTa> rambo3: im try to do this http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX
[02:47] <IdleOne> KuDeTa> you will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[02:47] <WindMill> What'sup
[02:48] <KuDeTa> i think i sould be doing the "within the kernel" part
[02:48] <KuDeTa> i installed make
[02:48] <Chousuke> AngryElf: also, Wine will not work in Ubuntu PPC either.
[02:48] <KuDeTa> kernel-package
[02:48] <rambo3> heh 100 people cliking at the link
[02:48] <KuDeTa> lol
[02:48] <renewip> hi, I've compiled my Firefox 1.5 by hand in Ubuntu 5.10. How to generate .DEB file now?
[02:48] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[02:48] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:48] <IdleOne> renewip> ^
[02:49] <rambo3> ok download kernel source that you need and put simlink to it in the same map  ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source* /usr/src/linux/
[02:49] <rambo3> !recompile
[02:49] <ubotu> rambo3: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:49] <rambo3> !kernel-source
[02:49] <ubotu> rambo3: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:50] <KuDeTa> :(
[02:50] <KuDeTa> obutu u suck
[02:50] <Chousuke> KuDeTa: kernel sources are in linux-source
[02:50] <brenner> Nidah: where did you save it?
[02:50] <KuDeTa> chousuke
[02:50] <Hoxzer> has somebody here setup alsa for ts?
[02:50] <KuDeTa> which one do i use..im on amd64
[02:50] <jlinden_> how do i end message when im sending email with ssmtp from command line? :)
[02:50] <Chousuke> hmm
[02:51] <KuDeTa> and i thought i need an ubuntu specific one?
[02:51] <Chousuke> KuDeTa: linux-source should install the correct sources.
[02:51] <renewip> I mean how to generate .DEB file package from source code ?
[02:51] <Chousuke> renewip: it's not easy.
[02:51] <mikex> why would totem have jerky sound but good video?
[02:51] <Enthusiast78> jlinden_, Did you try a dot (.) in a line by itself?
[02:51] <IdleOne> renewip>  why do you want to do it the hard way?
[02:51] <IdleOne> !tell render  about ff1.5
[02:51] <IdleOne> follow those instructions
[02:51] <Chousuke> renewip: though you can use checkinstall if you want a crude hack just to wrap it in a .deb
[02:52] <jlinden_> Enthusiast78, it worked! thanks
[02:52] <Chousuke> renewip: properly debianising the sources means you must go read some documentation
[02:52] <KuDeTa> chousuke: so i do aptitue install linux-kernel? thats all thats necc?
[02:52] <KuDeTa> will that untar it to /usr/src/?
[02:52] <Chousuke> KuDeTa: should get you the sources, yes.
[02:53] <KuDeTa> or do i need to do that myself
[02:53] <Chousuke> in /usr/src/
[02:53] <renewip> Chousuke: which docs? plz!
[02:53] <KuDeTa> okk
[02:53] <KuDeTa> but u see i did that i think
[02:53] <Chousuke> renewip: Debian new maintainer's guide
[02:53] <KuDeTa> but part of the problem
[02:53] <KuDeTa> was that make wouldn't work
[02:53] <Chousuke> renewip: it's not easy.
[02:53] <KuDeTa> said it could not find the directory to build.. something to that affect
[02:54] <Chousuke> renewip: I doubt you'll succeed in packaging firefox if you've never done packaging before
[02:54] <renewip> thanks in advance
[02:54] <IdleOne> renewip>  try google " compil source how to "
[02:54] <mattafix> this ubuntu stuff is well crap
[02:54] <Chousuke> renewip: you should just install the pre-made packages.
[02:55] <IdleOne> mattafix>  whats up?
[02:55] <KuDeTa> chousuke.. this is the command i needed to use
[02:55] <KuDeTa> ...make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`
[02:55] <KuDeTa> but it failed
[02:55] <mattafix> can't download anythin or play videos
[02:55] <IdleOne> mattafix>  did you enable universe and multiverse?
[02:56] <mattafix> yea
[02:56] <Chousuke> mattafix: do you mean you don't get internet connection?
[02:56] <Chousuke> mattafix: how are you connected to the internet?
[02:56] <IdleOne> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:56] <danboid> is suspend (hibernate) support more reliable and compatible in the current dapper kernel?
[02:57] <danboid> (than in breezy)
[02:57] <IdleOne> danboid>  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[02:57] <LadyNikon> morning class
[02:57] <IdleOne> morning
[02:57] <mattafix> no, when i downlaod somethin and i try to install it just goes to archive manager
[02:58] <nefido> ioio
[02:58] <IdleOne> mattafix>  what are you trying to install?
[02:58] <nefido> italiani
[02:58] <nefido> ?
[02:58] <IdleOne> !it
[02:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <mattafix> i tried real player, shockwave & java
[02:58] <IdleOne> mattafix>  wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:58] <iGotNoTime> Does anyone here use asterisk? Their channel is too busy answer noob questions about providers :(
[02:59] <mattafix> already tried that
[02:59] <IdleOne> mattafix>  that link tell you how to install all those
[03:00] <IdleOne> mattafix>  you getting errors? and what are they?
[03:01] <mattafix> do u know the extension for "executable"
[03:01] <mikex> looking for a backup tool for ubuntu. any suggestions? and what to back up?
[03:02] <brenner> mattafix: that's not how it works.  you can name a file anything and still have it be ecevutable
[03:02] <brenner> executable rather
[03:02] <rem_> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_rdiff_backup
[03:03] <mattafix> but it says to  rename the file to the correct extension for "executable"
[03:03] <brenner> mattafix: tell us the install problem and IdleOne will help you with them
[03:03] <Enthusiast78> mikex, Do you want to backup your PC or do you need a networked-backup solution?
[03:03] <IdleOne> brenner>  :P
[03:04] <brenner> IdleOne: i love deferring to other people:)
[03:04] <IdleOne> mattafix>  we cant help if we dont know what it is you want to do and what errors your getting
[03:04] <tucoz> Hello, any ATI users around? I am trying to get 3d working on my ubuntu install, but I get an error message when running fglrxinfo:  ERROR: version mismatch - 2D module [8.23.7]  incompatible with OGL client module [8.21.7] .
[03:05] <IdleOne> !ati
[03:05] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:05] <tucoz> IdleOne, thanks. But I used those links when installing.
[03:06] <IdleOne> tucoz>  thats the full extent of my knowledge concerning ati sorry :/
[03:06] <tucoz> I wonder if some old version of the fglrx-driver is remaining in my install
[03:06] <tucoz> IdleOne, no problem. Thanks anyway.
[03:06] <IdleOne> tucoz>  stick around there will be a few ati gurus around sooner or later
[03:07] <tucoz> great :)
[03:07] <IdleOne> just be patient and dont ask 500 times :)
[03:07] <Enthusiast78> tucoz, Do you mean it used to work before?
[03:07] <tucoz> Enthusiast78, not after I updated to dapper.
[03:08] <IdleOne> tucoz>  try #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper
[03:08] <IdleOne> or maybe Enthusiast78  can help
[03:08] <lightstep> how can i change my hostname?
[03:08] <tucoz> With breezy I used to install the driver using the installer from ATI, but now I installed the packaged version of the driver
[03:08] <IdleOne> lightstep>  change it to what?
[03:09] <Enthusiast78> tucoz, IdleOne, Not really. My best suggestion would be to try downgrading the package, but that could break something, so it's still no good advice at all. :o)
[03:09] <lightstep> IdleOne, to some other unused hostname in my network
[03:09] <IdleOne> tucoz>  #ubuntu+1 is your best bet
[03:09] <tucoz> ok, I'll ask at that channel
[03:09] <lightstep> IdleOne, i want to fit to a naming convention
[03:10] <IdleOne> lightstep>  that sounds difficult ..sorry I cant help
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> lightstep: you want to change your hostname?
[03:10] <lightstep> i wonder if just using hostname will work
[03:10] <IdleOne> have a good day everybody...remember Love your Ubuntu and Ubuntu will love you back
[03:11] <lightstep> Kamping_Kaiser, yes
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> "hostname" as hostname? probably not a good idea
[03:11] <netface> oi
[03:11] <brenner> IdleOne: awwww :)
[03:11] <dylan_> how do i downgrade my apps if they're not stable?
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> later IdleOne :)
[03:11] <netface> algum brasileiro?
[03:11] <IdleOne> !br
[03:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:11] <lightstep> i want to make it as if i types the correct name in the install process
[03:11] <lightstep> s/types/typed/
[03:11] <heyjoe2> is there a way i can safely unmount my usb device
[03:12] <heyjoe2> using the command line, it doesnt work when i use the click method
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lightstep: to change the hostname you edi t "/etc/hostname" and "/etc/hosts"
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> and this is one time i do condone use of a root terminal.
[03:12] <jlinden_> How do I print raw text data to ipp printer?? anyone?
[03:12] <lightstep> heyjoe2, try sudo umount /path/to/device
[03:13] <n3m3s1s> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CJPcEf87.html < can you help me plz
[03:13] <heyjoe2> thanks
[03:13] <thenuke> n3m3s1s: maybe it will work some other time
[03:14] <heyjoe2> lightstep: so if its on the desktop i go sudo unmount /desktop/new volume
[03:14] <jetscreamer> try a different source
[03:14] <n3m3s1s> HmmM
[03:14] <n3m3s1s> Can you give me a "clean source" ?
[03:14] <jetscreamer> !sources
[03:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:14] <brenner> heyjoe2: no.  it'll always be /dev/something
[03:15] <n3m3s1s> !easysource
[03:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:15] <brenner> heyjoe2: type 'mount' to see what's mounted
[03:15] <heyjoe2> brenner: are you having a laugh
[03:15] <vjHabib> Hello everybody
[03:15] <brenner> heyjoe2: no.
[03:15] <netface> poxa, ninguem me ajuda no ubuntu-br
[03:16] <brenner> and it's umount, not unmount
[03:16] <vjHabib> I having some troubles with glx on ATI radeon with fglrx does any one know how to fix this livre@multimidia:~$ glxgears
[03:16] <vjHabib> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:16] <vjHabib> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:16] <vjHabib> ??
[03:16] <heyjoe2> brenner: sorry, can i pastebin u what i got
[03:16] <brenner> heyjoe2: pastebin away
[03:16] <heyjoe2> brenner: http://pastebin.com/594432
[03:18] <brenner> heyjoe2: can you do a : cd /media/NEW VOLUME
[03:18] <marlun> Does Debian also force you to use sudo by default?
[03:18] <brenner> heyjoe2: and see if that is the usb drive when you do an ls
[03:18] <netface> no codecs open divx and mp3, why?
[03:18] <brenner> marlun: not afaik.  tehy still stick with the root account
[03:18] <heyjoe2> brenner: it says no such file or directory when i do the cd command
[03:19] <brenner> heyjoe2: what command did you use?
[03:19] <marlun> ok, thanks
[03:19] <heyjoe2> cd /media/NEW VOLUME
[03:19] <Diogo> Any GRUB gurus around?!
[03:19] <brenner> netface: ubuntu can't provide them out of the box legally.  see here to install them: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:19] <rambo3>  /j #grub
[03:20] <brenner> heyjoe2: it's probablhy the space.  type cd /media/NEW and then press tab
[03:20] <jetscreamer> Diogo: #grub
[03:20] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Thanks! :o)
[03:20] <p3> hi plz - how co change encoding? it isnt nice when there is (invalid encoding) and i cant choose wallpaper from that folder :D and some webpages are too sick...
[03:20] <n3m3s1s> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu tre vrifies parce que la cl publique n'est pas disponible: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[03:20] <n3m3s1s> W: Vous pouvez lancer apt-get update pour corriger ces problmes.
[03:20] <n3m3s1s> What's wrong?
[03:20] <jetscreamer> rambo3: :p
[03:20] <rambo3> cd /media/NEW \VOLUME
[03:20] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Hmmm... Even if my GRUB question is ubuntu-specific?!
[03:20] <jetscreamer> n3m3s1s: it's just a key you didn't impoirt yet. you can ignore it till you find out how
[03:21] <n3m3s1s> or can i del it?
[03:21] <jetscreamer> Diogo: can't hurt to just ask in both channels
[03:21] <heyjoe2> brenner: that seems to have done good
[03:21] <jetscreamer> n3m3s1s: you can just comment out the new source
[03:21] <jetscreamer> n3m3s1s: but like i said it's an ignorable error
[03:21] <netface> brenner, thanks
[03:21] <jetscreamer> !keys
[03:21] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer
[03:21] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Here we go, then: I'd like to 'lock' my 'recovery mode' entries, but they are inside the AUTOMAGIC section and I wouldn't like to hurt automagic, so how do I proceed?
[03:21] <jetscreamer> dumbot
[03:22] <heyjoe2> brenner: i think its opened newvolume
[03:22] <n3m3s1s> ok
[03:22] <brenner> heyjoe2: ls shows the contents of the stick?
[03:22] <jetscreamer> Diogo: you could just copy the ones and put them below the magic line
[03:22] <jlinden_> I cant enable 3d hardware acceleration when Im using xinerama for dual head, i have intel embedded graphics chip... anyone know any solution?
[03:22] <heyjoe2> brenner: yep the contents are correct
[03:22] <Healot> how do I patch an original tarball (tar.gz) with it
[03:23] <brenner> heyjoe2: then that's the one you want. to unmount: sudo umount /dev/sda5
[03:23] <heyjoe2> exactly as it is?
[03:23] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Do you mean copying the line blocks of those sections and re-insert them below with the lock line included?
[03:23] <bigfoot1> i have an avi file. how can i record just the audio of that as an mp3?
[03:23] <brenner> heyjoe2: yep.  weird that you can't unmount via desktop though
[03:23] <Healot> its gzipped diff file?
[03:24] <rambo3> why dont you just unpack and aplay patch , repack
[03:24] <jetscreamer> Diogo: lock line? i mean copy , title to boot,  each section you want to preserve against automagic, and paste below ethe 'end debian automagic' or whatever it says in ubuntu
[03:25] <heyjoe2> brenner: it says device is busy, but im not using it for anything
[03:25] <heyjoe2> brenner: that i can see
[03:25] <jetscreamer> lsof heyjoe2
[03:26] <Nabiki> :P I got a message saying
[03:26] <heyjoe2> whats lsof
[03:26] <Nabiki> :P I got a message saying SSL version 2 is disabled.
[03:26] <jetscreamer> type it
[03:26] <joefso3> HOW DO i GET XGL WORKING ON DEBIAN?
[03:26] <jetscreamer> LiStOpenFiles
[03:26] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Ok, and then I add the 'lock' line right below the 'initrd' line, right? Will these new blocks overwrite the automagic ones?
[03:26] <jetscreamer> joe_alf: /topic #debian
[03:27] <jetscreamer> Diogo: what lock line
[03:27] <heyjoe2> brenner: what do i do if it says its busy in terminal
[03:27] <jetscreamer> you don't need a lock line, just anything under where it says end debian magic won't be touched
[03:27] <brenner> joefso3: ask #debian
[03:27] <Diogo> jetscreamer, To have an entry locked in grub, I need the 'lock' line right below the 'initrd' line, afaik...
[03:27] <Diogo> jetscreamer, I want them password-locked.
[03:27] <joefso3> brenner why?
[03:27] <jetscreamer> Diogo: ahhh
[03:28] <Diogo> jetscreamer, :o)
[03:28] <jetscreamer> dobrev: apt-get install grub-doc, info grub
[03:28] <brenner> joefso3: b/c this is an ubuntu channel
[03:28] <henk> Hi can anyone help me set up my ati card (readon 9100) i tried to install the ati propiatary driver but it did not work for me. So i removed all the related stuff. reinstalled ristricted driver, kernel 2.6.12.15-18 and reset my xorg.conf to user 'fglrx' as a driver. However i now keep faling back to mesa and i cannot figure out why it is no longer working. Anyone that has experience with this?
[03:28] <Diogo> jetscreamer, And I'd like it to be set as automagically-compliant as possible. ;o)
[03:28] <joefso3> brenner: I'm using ubuntu ?
[03:28] <brenner> joefso3: i don't know. are you?
[03:28] <brenner> >_>
[03:28] <joefso3> brenner: why would I be here? haha
[03:28] <jetscreamer> Diogo: i never did passwd in grub. i thought you didn't want the automagic to touch it, like having a failsafe.
[03:28] <elkbuntu> !xgl
[03:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:29] <rambo3> on ati you have to omit some Option "" and use Device Driver "ati"
[03:29] <devios> the kubuntu live cd couldn't auomatically set up sound on my Dell Optiplex GX240 - on-board sound.  anyone know how to fix?
[03:29] <brenner> joefso3: you asked a question relating directly to debian.  therefore, it's better to ask the folk at @debian
[03:29] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Oh, no. Well, you just need the "password" line set and then add lines with 'lock' right below 'initrd'. I just didn't want to hurt the automagic system.
[03:29] <brenner> heyjoe2: ask jetscreamer.  he seems to have an idea.  i usually just reboot.
[03:30] <heyjoe2> brenner: http://pastebin.com/594461 thats the error message i get
[03:30] <jetscreamer> Diogo: it will be overwritten unless you add it to the auto stuff above, or cp one below the line
[03:30] <henk> rambo3 and elkbuntu if that was for me... i'm not trying to set up glx (it definately does not work with my ati card,) im trying to revert back to the old situation
[03:30] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: any idea on how to help me. this is the error message i get when i try to click unmount http://pastebin.com/594461
[03:30] <elkbuntu> henk, no it was for heyjoe2
[03:30] <henk> elkbuntu ok sorry
[03:30] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: i just thought you could run lsof and see what's trying to acces it
[03:30] <Diogo> jetscreamer, Yeah, I was wondering if the auto stuff would solve this problem...
[03:31] <rambo3> henk is X working+
[03:31] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: sorry im a newbie, how do i run lsof
[03:31] <jetscreamer> jsut type it
[03:31] <heyjoe2> elkbuntu: what was for me
[03:31] <jetscreamer> maybe add sudo
[03:31] <henk> rambo3 yes x works. the open gl driver just falls back to mesa instead of fglrx
[03:31] <elkbuntu> heyjoe2, the information ubotu said about xgl
[03:31] <Healot> oh, now i get how the hell to patch source package...
[03:32] <elkbuntu> ubotu, tell heyjoe2 about xgl
[03:32] <jetscreamer> /media/NEW\040VOLUME <--
[03:32] <brenner> elkbuntu: you must be tired. :) he's having unmounting issues.  nothing to do with xgl
[03:32] <jetscreamer> / not \
[03:32] <natalie> hello, I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to help me with a problem.
[03:32] <elkbuntu> oh, wrong joe
[03:32] <jetscreamer> the other guy wanted the xgl
[03:32] <brenner> ya
[03:33] <elkbuntu> ubotu, tell joefso3 about xgl
[03:33] <brenner> natalie: ask away
[03:33] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594466
[03:33] <elkbuntu> the 'joe' and number parts confused me, and yes, i'm tired
[03:33] <henk> rambo3 it seems by the way i cannot insmod 'drm' should i be able to ?
[03:33] <natalie> I recently loaded a copy of 5.10 on my PC and it freezes whenever I get to the login screen.  I can't even hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a terminal
[03:34] <brenner> natalie: live cd or install?
[03:34] <natalie> Install
[03:34] <rambo3> i dont think that you need drm for your kernel
[03:35] <Diogo> natalie, What if you boot in 'recovery mode'?
[03:35] <jetscreamer> frank... uh heyjoe2 ... cd / and umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME
[03:35] <natalie> I can boot i to recovery mode, but I'm fairly new to linux, so I'm not really sure what to do.
[03:35] <Nabiki> brb.   Gotta test something.
[03:35] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i did that
[03:35] <heyjoe2> now what
[03:36] <Diogo> natalie, Then it could be something related to X. Do you guys think natalie should 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server'?
[03:36] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: type the command here exactly as you typed it
[03:36] <heyjoe2> cd / and umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME
[03:36] <brenner> Diogo: she should have got a bluescreen.  but it's worth a shot
[03:37] <heyjoe2> wrong?
[03:37] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: you typed and?
[03:37] <heyjoe2> yeah i thought that was strange
[03:37] <heyjoe2> two separate commands huh
[03:37] <jetscreamer> cd / && umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME
[03:37] <jetscreamer> try that
[03:37] <jetscreamer> one line there
[03:37] <brenner> heyjoe2: the first one isn't actually needed.
[03:38] <jetscreamer> actually since he's in the directory, yeah
[03:38] <Diogo> natalie, brenner, Sorry it's 'xserver-xorg' the name of the package.
[03:38] <Gau> Is there a way to repair a HD using an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[03:38] <Diogo> Gau, What kind of 'repair' do you mean?
[03:39] <Gau> Well, apparently the HD has an invalid node structure and the catalog b-tree is damaged
[03:39] <natalie> Diogo: Will there be anything in particular that I will need to do after that, or will it fix itself?  (Sorry I'm really new)
[03:39] <heyjoe2> ok http://pastebin.com/594481
[03:39] <milamber> someone kwnows, i try to mount my hdc7 partition, mounting works fine, buth the browser says u do not have anough permissiopns ?. looked it in fstab everything seems fine
[03:39] <vjHabib> does anyone know how to put dri in ati fglrx?
[03:40] <brenner> vjHabib: how'd you install the driver?
[03:40] <z6bt> how would i burn an audio cd with cdrecord (i dont have and cant have x)
[03:40] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594481
[03:40] <Diogo> natalie, I really don't know, but I'm hoping it will fix itself.
[03:40] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: add sudo.
[03:40] <natalie> Diogo, Brenner, Thanks for the help I will give it a try.
[03:41] <jetscreamer> next time, sudo lsof | grep -i /mnt/new btw
[03:41] <brenner> natalie: if that doesn't work.  search the forum using "freeze" and "login " as keywords.  it might not be a display issue
[03:41] <natalie> Okay, I'll do that
[03:41] <z6bt> does anyone know?
[03:41] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: no error msg
[03:41] <vjHabib> brenner: I follow this instruction of proprietary driver
[03:42] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: type mount
[03:42] <brenner> vjHabib: which instructions?
[03:42] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i think it worked
[03:42] <z6bt> so i take it no one knows?
[03:42] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: but i typed mount anyway
[03:42] <vjHabib> brenner: i create a .deb folowing this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.23.7_drivers_in_Breezy_Badger
[03:42] <jetscreamer> z6bt: is it mounted heyjoe2 ?
[03:43] <z6bt> what?
[03:43] <vjHabib> brenner: this is in #ati
[03:43] <jetscreamer> oops
[03:43] <z6bt> what would i be mounting
[03:43] <jetscreamer> z6bt: hang on
[03:43] <z6bt> k
[03:43] <jetscreamer> is it mounted heyjoe2 ?
[03:43] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i typed mount and it didnt mount
[03:43] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: you mean it isn't mounted
[03:43] <Drac[Server] > I'm shutting the server down temporarily. I'll be back.
[03:44] <jetscreamer> ?
[03:44] <brenner> vjHabib: ok.  i think they're identical to the ones you should be using: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:44] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: typing mount should just tell you what is mounted
[03:44] <brenner> vjHabib: did you do the whole thing?
[03:44] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594486
[03:44] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i think it worked
[03:45] <Diogo> Anybody ever tried to 'dist-upgrade' a Debian system to Ubuntu?
[03:45] <jetscreamer> z6bt: http://www.linuxdocs.org/sln/cdcommands/
[03:45] <vjHabib> brenner: is but i'm with another kernel
[03:45] <brenner> z6bt: try #linuxhelp since it's a generic question
[03:45] <Jhair> Diogo: that would not work
[03:45] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: wtg \o/
[03:45] <Nabiki> Ok, I am up and going under linux.  :P  I keep getting weird messages from dpkg though. :)
[03:45] <brenner> vjHabib: i don't get you
[03:45] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i think it works, cos i tried it again
[03:46] <Diogo> Jhair, Hmmm... How sad I am... :'(
[03:46] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: you can't be in the directory and try to umount it at the same time :)
[03:46] <Nabiki> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:46] <vjHabib> brenner: I have a kernel 2.6.13 compiled by my self
[03:46] <techmydeck> im havin a problem with ubuntu. when i try to use the system configurations at gnome, they say that my root pass is wrong. anyone could help me?
[03:46] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: whenever i type umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME
[03:46] <heyjoe2> it disappears from the desktop
[03:46] <jetscreamer> right
[03:46] <elkbuntu> Diogo, although based on debian, ubuntu isnt quite the same. what would be the point if it was ;)
[03:46] <brenner> jetscreamer: whoops. that was my fault i guess
[03:47] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: good, no
[03:47] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: it's not in the fstab
[03:47] <matt__> !w32codecs
[03:47] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:47] <Jhair> techmydeck: probably you are being asked for YOUR password (sudo) and not the root password
[03:47] <Diogo> elkbuntu, I know, I know. I'd just like to migrate a system to Ubuntu. Is there another way of doing this?
[03:47] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: ok, so what do i do?
[03:47] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: and there is a setting to show unmounted volumes on the desktop somewhere also... i don't know much about automount though i don't use it
[03:48] <techmydeck> oh ok !!!!!!!!! thx
[03:48] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: probably put your command in fstab... i'd rething that new volume naming scheme if it was me though
[03:48] <brenner> vjHabib: shouldn't matter i don't think
[03:48] <jetscreamer> s/rething/rethink/
[03:48] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: simply typing umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME wont cut it to unmount
[03:48] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: some other name, maybe w/o spaces
[03:48] <heyjoe2> ok
[03:48] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: what?
[03:48] <heyjoe2> just by renaming the file
[03:48] <jetscreamer> simply typing umount /media/NEW\ VOLUME wont cut it to unmount ?
[03:49] <elkbuntu> Diogo, my guess would be: backup important info (eg, home, www ...) install ubuntu, put important info into relevent places
[03:49] <heyjoe2> sorry
[03:49] <jetscreamer> no you need a good line for it in fstab.. you don't put the actual mount command
[03:49] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: i dont know what a good line or fstab is
[03:49] <jetscreamer> make it similar to the others
[03:49] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: less /etc/fstab to see an example
[03:49] <Diogo> elkbuntu, Yeah, do it the traditional way. :o) No problem! Just wanted to know if there was an almost-automagic way to do it.
[03:50] <jetscreamer> !fstab
[03:50] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[03:50] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: ^^
[03:50] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: how do i rename new volume
[03:50] <elkbuntu> Diogo, google around, you never know what people have managed to do, but it seems nobody in here knows of that way yet
[03:50] <matt__> is it still possible to get the w32 codecs off the servers??
[03:50] <heyjoe2> i tried to rightclick and properties but that didnt work
[03:50] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: same with rightclick rename
[03:51] <jetscreamer> mv NEW\ VOLUME someothername
[03:51] <Diogo> elkbuntu, Ok, thanks!
[03:51] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: did you create the dir with sudo? then you'll need to use sudo to mv it
[03:51] <matt__> is it still possible to get the w32 codecs off the servers??
[03:52] <heyjoe2> it says now cannot stat new volume
[03:52] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: no such file or directory
[03:52] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: either be in the /media directory, or supply full path ... /media/NEW\ VOLUME
[03:53] <chmod775> is there any VPN software for ubuntu ?
[03:53] <Jhair> chmod775: yes
[03:53] <jind> love your nick
[03:53] <jind> chmod775
[03:53] <chmod775> How do I download it
[03:53] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: so sudo mv /media/NEW\ VOLUME /media/whatever
[03:54] <Diogo> chmod775, I think 'aptitude search vpn' will give you a few choices.
[03:54] <heyjoe2> it says bash so command not found
[03:54] <heyjoe2> i type
[03:54] <drjohn> does security really depend on the OS or the user or admin setting it up?  im a bit confused with tihs
[03:55] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: just from the word sudo
[03:55] <jetscreamer> sudo blahblahblah
[03:55] <dobrev> HymnToLife> Thank you
[03:55] <jetscreamer>  sudo mv /media/NEW\ VOLUME /media/whatever
[03:55] <HymnToLife> did you manage it ?
[03:55] <unrea> how do i use dualscreen with ubuntu?
[03:55] <jetscreamer> unrea: configure xorg.conf properly
[03:56] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594501
[03:56] <jack> i'm a newby can i ask something?
[03:56] <unrea> jetscreamer, how do i do that? :D
[03:56] <HymnToLife> jack > of course
[03:56] <Jhair> jack: you already did
[03:56] <HymnToLife> lol
[03:56] <ndlovu> my hard drive is killing me with slow disk reads... any suggestions of good hard drive testing programs in linux?
[03:56] <jack> he he thnx
[03:56] <drjohn> does security really depend on the OS or the user or admin setting it up?  im a bit confused with that question
[03:56] <jack> so i have installed ubuntu 5.10 right now
[03:57] <jack> how do i install plugins like flash player?
[03:57] <Nabiki> Is there a command to test that all my dependencies are in place accross the board? :)
[03:57] <HymnToLife> !tell jack about flash
[03:57] <heyjoe2> #easyubuntu might be good
[03:57] <unrea> jetscreamer, I tried, but then it couldn't find my screen, so i had to change it back :/
[03:57] <Healot> drjohn, just remember, software is created by human, if human is dumb, then software is dumb too
[03:57] <chmod775> I am looking for a vpn client software which I can use it to connect  remote
[03:57] <chmod775> ?
[03:57] <Jhair> chmod775: you want to connect to a vpn server?
[03:57] <chmod775> Jhair, yes
[03:57] <Healot> remember "people","people" and "people"
[03:58] <Jhair> chmod775: a windows-based or linux-based vpn server?
[03:58] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: make any sense out of the pastebin
[03:58] <chmod775> Maybe anything ?
[03:58] <marcin`> hello #ubuntu
[03:58] <Jhair> chmod775: for a windows-based you can use the pptp package and a patched kernel AFAIK.
[03:58] <jetscreamer> unrea: i can help you later but i have to get ready for work soon... nvidia.com has a list/readme if it's nvidia, if it's not nvidia i can't help you anyway
[03:58] <HymnToLife> !tell marcin` about hello
[03:58] <Jhair> chmod775: I use that to connect to the vpn of my company which is a windows server
[03:58] <chmod775> ok
[03:58] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: sudo lsof | grep -i /media/new
[03:58] <chmod775> SO how do I install it ?
[03:59] <marcin`> could someone tell me how could I to record some internet radio to mp3/ogg file?
[03:59] <unrea> jetscreamer, it's not an nvidia, thanks for the help anyway :)
[03:59] <Jhair> chmod775: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[03:59] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: yep
[03:59] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: try the mv command now?
[04:00] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: did the lsof | grep command not return anything?
[04:00] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: nothing
[04:00] <milamber> nfts disks r not readable with ubuntu ?
[04:00] <jack> i have another question plz
[04:00] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: ok 'should' work
[04:00] <jetscreamer> !ntfs
[04:00] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:01] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: should do a lot of things
[04:01] <heyjoe2> but isnt
[04:01] <heyjoe2> busy again
[04:02] <jetscreamer> sudo lsof | grep -i media
[04:02] <milamber> thnx
[04:03] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: http://pastebin.com/594520 does that mean it is a openoffice file-writer perhaps thats holding it back, cos i just closed it
[04:04] <LuisBG> what's the easiest way to install an airport wifi card in ubuntu? it's for a powerbook
[04:04] <bfield> ndiswrapper?
[04:05] <LuisBG> isn't it going to be in the install cd of dapper?
[04:05] <LuisBG> there is a free source driver... just wondered the ubuntu way to install it
[04:05] <bfield> not to sure of that... altho, I can't wait for dapper
[04:06] <jan_> hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?
[04:06] <jan_> with lspci, to ndiswrapper
[04:06] <Healot> ndiswrapper works with Windows XP driver...
[04:06] <LuisBG> bfield, me neither, tried to dist-upgrade the other day and messed up all my apt :S
[04:06] <aleph0> hello everyone.
[04:06] <Healot> if it is from the source, the same way any GNU/Linux would do, LuisBG
[04:07] <bfield> you know
[04:07] <aleph0> I'm having problems with system load. my server hangs and a lot of time is spent in I/O wait. I can't seem to track it... any pointers?
[04:07] <LuisBG> Healot, isn't the module system in ubuntu a little different, I mean it has to work with the kernel packages
[04:07] <bfield> the easist way to do it Luis, is to get ahold of the dapper sources.list, and then just apt-get upgrade.
[04:07] <LuisBG> aleph0, what does top say?
[04:07] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: did that pastebin shed any light
[04:07] <jan_> hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?
[04:07] <Healot> no... it is the same on all Linux, at least on most Linux
[04:07] <inversan> what so men
[04:07] <aleph0> something like this:
[04:07] <aleph0> Cpu(s): 30.7% us,  7.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 28.2% id, 33.4% wa,  0.1% hi,  0.2% si
[04:08] <eth0> hi, could anyone tell me, is it best to learn bash or c programming first?
[04:08] <aleph0> but wait time can peak at over 90%
[04:08] <bfield> eth0, did you look for howto's?
[04:08] <LuisBG> eth0, I think C
[04:08] <bfield> hmm
[04:08] <thelamb> definately bash first
[04:08] <bfield> I agree with Luis there.
[04:08] <eth0> bfield: couldn't find anything on google
[04:08] <bfield> hmm
[04:08] <LuisBG> Healot, i'm adapted to having the sources in /usr/src... any pointer to a howto ;) ?
[04:09] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: do you think its a good idea to take my computer to a computer store to get them to fix all my usb issues?
[04:09] <bfield> lemme see if I can find some (eth0)
[04:09] <eth0> bfield: thanks :)
[04:09] <naila> ola
[04:09] <bfield> eth0, here's a good link for C programming
[04:09] <bfield> http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/
[04:09] <naila> hello
[04:10] <aleph0> is there something like 'top' which tells me exactly which process is causing the I/O wait ?
[04:10] <LuisBG> bfield, I tried to upgrade to dapper and weird massive dependency problems mid-way
[04:10] <bfield> luis, well I guess I'll just wait the month or two till they release it.
[04:10] <bfield> ususally is best that way
[04:10] <eth0> bfield: im not looking for a text on c, i aleady have a couple of books
[04:10] <Healot> oh... you need to install the kernel source... just like all GNU/Linux
[04:10] <LuisBG> bfield, LOL isn't it 6.4?
[04:10] <bfield> luis, yea thats what I heard
[04:10] <eth0> bfield: im wondering whether to startr with c or bash
[04:11] <LuisBG> eth0, top has several keys to view stuff... like m for memory I think, look at the man to see if there is one for I/O
[04:11] <jan_> hi, how do 'devid' of a pci device look like?
[04:11] <bfield> eth0, I'd say bash then, its bit easier
[04:11] <CarinArr> eth0, it depends what you want to do
[04:11] <bfield> eth0, have you looked into realbasic?
[04:11] <eth0> what's realbasic
[04:11] <heyjoe2> im having problems with two usb devices in general. do people think if i take it into a computer store theyd be able to fix it for a small fee? cos its quite complicated getting ppl to help me remotely.
[04:11] <aleph0> LuisBG: it shows I/O but not on a pre process level.
[04:12] <LuisBG> aleph0, mmmmm then I'm clueless
[04:12] <aleph0> me too :(
[04:12] <bfield> eth0, its the basic programming language, but with an easy use IDE, very similar to Visual Basic
[04:12] <CarinArr> ack
[04:12] <LuisBG> aleph0, try killing processes until you spot the problem
[04:12] <eth0> bfield: well i've already started with c
[04:12] <aleph0> I had something like this before. only then it was the disk.
[04:12] <CarinArr> eth0, i'd stick with c
[04:12] <CarinArr> if you know c it's easy to learn other things
[04:12] <aleph0> my system is fastest after I killed everything :)
[04:12] <bfield> eth0, well then stick with it, it's all prefrence I guess
[04:13] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: i think you'd be wasting your money personally. you may not beable to renamethe mount point due to automount stuff, not sure... try just using a different mountpoint. heyjoe2 , gtg work now:/ g'luck... (but hey it seems to function... what happens if you take it out of the omputer and put it back in.. does it automount?)
[04:13] <eth0> alright, thanks :)
[04:13] <CarinArr> c has a slightly steep learning curve but it's worth it
[04:13] <bfield> np
[04:13] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: it automounts. the other problem i have is a thumbdrive that wont mount
[04:13] <heyjoe2> and the mac os x computers at uni wont recognize my new volume mp3 player
[04:13] <eth0> carin: yeah
[04:14] <poet_> hello guys, how to compile modules for ubuntu?  for example: pl2303
[04:14] <chmod775> how do I update to new gnome ?
[04:14] <chmod775> gnome 2.14 ?
[04:14] <coach> hi@all
[04:14] <jan_> how do i find the id to a pci-wlan card?
[04:14] <coach> i've got a prob with my ubuntu
[04:14] <aleph0> eth0: bash is not a good place to start IMHO. and neither is c. to start learning programming first take a look at something like python or something. it's quick to learn, easier thatn c and it's teach you all the basic concepts without having to worry too much about pointers and stuff
[04:14] <jetscreamer> heyjoe2: the thumbdrive is similar, but uses a different /dev device.... you can do it!
[04:15] <heyjoe2> jetscreamer: any tips on how to get started?
[04:15] <jan_> how do i find the device-id to a pci-wlan card?
[04:15] <chmod775> try iwconfig
[04:15] <coach> i cant mount my cdrom, though ts not wrecked...what shall i do?
[04:15] <chmod775> u mean wireless card right ?
[04:15] <bfield> jan, either that or lspci
[04:15] <tritium> eth0: python _is_ a great langauge to learn with.  In fact, the package (and book) diveintopython is installed by default on ubuntu.  That's a good one to learn from.
[04:15] <transgress> what file do i need to edit to get iwlist to use wlan0 instead of eth2 as my wireless card because as far as i know it should still be wlan0 after upgrading to breezy right?
[04:16] <eth0> aleph0: yeah, i've heard  that b4 that it's not the best one to start with, but are pointers really that complicated?
[04:16] <jan_> bfield, how does it look like in lspci? 0000:02:7.1
[04:17] <eth0> aldren: i've not used them that much
[04:17] <eth0> er
[04:17] <eth0> aleph0: i've not used them that much
[04:17] <p0mppu> hi everyone
[04:17] <bfield> jan, yes, thats right
[04:17] <coach> i want to install wow with cedega, but when i insert the 4th cd, i can't mount it...
[04:17] <VladDrac> anyone here ever got breezy installation to work with 3ware 9550 raid controllers?
[04:17] <p0mppu> is there a way to install OpenOffice.org 2 in the Dapper dev version?
[04:17] <p0mppu> the whole thing
[04:17] <aleph0> eth0: they're not impossible to learn, but it's be more fun if you start with something that you can get going with straight away... with c it'l take you longer to have fun ;-)
[04:17] <p0mppu> it seems I can install else but not the Writer, or if Writer, then it removes the others
[04:17] <tritium> p0mppu: it gets installed by default
[04:18] <p0mppu> tritium: not on my pc
[04:18] <tritium> p0mppu: /j #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <gzzzt> hi, wheres the modprobe.conf in ubuntu? i cant find it
[04:18] <p0mppu> what's that?
[04:18] <LuisBG> how stable is dapper flight 4 ?
[04:18] <tritium> p0mppu: the channel for dapper questions
[04:18] <p0mppu> ok
[04:18] <p0mppu> thanks
[04:18] <crimsun> LuisBG: soon to be deprecated by Flight 5
[04:18] <p0mppu> and sorry :)
[04:19] <crimsun> gzzzt: there shouldn't be one, else /etc/modprobe.d/ is skipped
[04:19] <eth0> aleph0: yeah, good point
[04:19] <bfield> later everyone
[04:19] <gzzzt> crimsun, i just installed a new sounddriver, and it tells me to modify that file... how do I handle this now?
[04:19] <eth0> aleph0: but are pointers tricky?
[04:20] <eth0> aleph0: oh sorry
[04:20] <USER016623> oh, i go
[04:20] <eth0> aleph0: i misread what u last said
[04:20] <crimsun> gzzzt: don't touch /etc/modprobe.conf . Which driver did you install?
[04:20] <eth0> aleph0: but are pointers tricky?  <---- ignore that
[04:20] <USER016623> but, need we speack english, because we are italian
[04:20] <netface> ATI 9800PRO@XT compatible ubuntu?
[04:20] <aleph0> eth0 they're not tricky, they're annoying ;-)
[04:20] <gzzzt> crimsun, nvidia nforce sounddrivers
[04:21] <eth0> aleph0: yeah i don't totaly understand the point of them so far
[04:21] <USER016623> we have just 5 minutes
[04:21] <crimsun> gzzzt: those are oss-based, not alsa. You won't be able to use alsa applications with them.
[04:21] <USER016623> Morgante merda!
[04:21] <crimsun> gzzzt: I highly recommend you use snd-intel8x0 instead, which Ubuntu does by default.
[04:21] <USER016623> adesso avremmo proprio bisogno di droga
[04:21] <coach> tritium, hello?
[04:21] <tritium> yes, coach?
[04:22] <gzzzt> crimsun, i want to use hardware mixing, since i want to play and hear music or use teamspeak at the same time..,. so i guess using the nvidia drivers is my only chance aint it?
[04:22] <coach> i wrote a pm to you, would u look at it, plz?
[04:22] <henk> is there a tool that can figure out my messy documents and files ? i have many backups of partial backups of documents etc. The drives are a mess, i'm looking for some tool that can help me clean is up (identufy duplicate dirs/files etc)
[04:22] <tritium> coach: I didn't get it.  You've probably not registered/identified
[04:22] <netface> Enemy territory @ 9800 pro @ubuntu?
[04:22] <coach> oh, sry^^
[04:22] <Jhair> henk: tree
[04:23] <eth0> aleph0: except with bash, learning all the unix commands and kinda makes things a lot easier tho, no? cuz the shell does all the work for you?
[04:23] <crimsun> gzzzt: no, what you want to be able to use is pcm multiplexing, not hardware mixing (that's a recording/monitoring feature in pro audio cards)
[04:23] <coach> tritium, i wanted to install wow with cedega, but the 4th cd doesn't want to get mounted-.-
[04:23] <transgress> hey what's the wiki page for setting up the nvidia driver?
[04:23] <suppaman> hi
[04:23] <nijan> Hello, I've been unable to install any program, I've tried to run apt-get update, to set up the keys, but nothing solves the problem. I've been receiving alway the same "impossible to install  package x" message.
[04:23] <tritium> !tell transgress about nvidia
[04:23] <crimsun> gzzzt: while nvsound.ko will give you that, you will give up any sort of audio work done in alsa
[04:23] <USER016623> Dreita camminava lentamente lungo il porto. fu il vento di maggio che le scompigli i capelli a farla ritornare nel passato ormai scordato di amarezza e delusione...era di nuovo lei, dopo essere stata soltanto incertezza ed inganno..ma, forse, non era stato bello credere di essere cambiata?
[04:23] <tritium> !it
[04:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:24] <tritium> coach: bad CD?
[04:24] <gzzzt> crimsun, would that be a bad thing? since my only wish is to hear music, use teamspeak and play games
[04:24] <crimsun> gzzzt: if you use nvsound.ko, make sure you set everything to use oss instead of alsa.
[04:24] <coach> no
[04:24] <eth0> aleph0: or am i looking for a book on linux, rather than bash?
[04:24] <henk> Jhair hmm tree |wc -l gives me 87897 lines.... so that is not something i'd call a big help :)
[04:24] <crimsun> gzzzt: no, it's not a "bad" thing per se. We just won't field your support questions, since we can't access the source code.
[04:24] <tritium> coach: why do you suspect it won't mount?
[04:24] <USER016623> senti, io sto chattando col mio amico immaginario che  seduto al mio fianco e non conosce l'inglese, quindi, rispettami. grazie  gi una giornata di merda
[04:24] <tritium> USER016623: stop please!
[04:24] <gzzzt> crimsun, exactly that is my problem: i want to disable alsa but cant, since im not supposed to do it via modprobe.conf
[04:25] <netface> need help, please!!! Radeon 9800 pro@xt driver install ubuntu?
[04:25] <crimsun> gzzzt: no, that's simple. Just blacklist the 'snd' module
[04:25] <coach> tritium, i tried, but i only got "no media found"
[04:25] <crimsun> gzzzt: there's no need at all to touch /etc/modprobe.conf
[04:25] <gzzzt> crimsun, whats simple for is maybe hard for me. how do i do that?
[04:25] <crimsun> gzzzt: echo snd | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:26] <USER016623> Tirami su il viso, che da troppo tempo ormai lascia riposare gli occhi sull'asfalto nero luccicante di sperma vivo.
[04:26] <eth0> aleph0?
[04:26] <gzzzt> crimsun, and this will do what?
[04:26] <crimsun> mike with the cluebat
[04:26] <crimsun> gzzzt: prevent alsa drivers from loading on next boot
[04:26] <USER016623> crosta, hai corrotto la bellezze del mio culo!
[04:27] <tritium> !tell USER016623 about it
[04:27] <gzzzt> crimsun, if i do that, i can easily undo it by removing it from that list, aye?
[04:27] <crimsun> gzzzt: certainly.
[04:27] <coach> tritium, any idea why it says so?
[04:27] <gzzzt> crimsun, i appreciate your help, thanks a lot
[04:27] <tritium> coach: no, not really...
[04:27] <crimsun> gzzzt: np
[04:27] <poet_> hello guys, how to compile modules for ubuntu?  for example: pl2303
[04:28] <coach> hmpf....
[04:28] <crimsun> poet_: on breezy or dapper?
[04:28] <mumbles> wee
[04:28] <coach> k, cya@all
[04:28] <mumbles> ubuntu works on my laptop
[04:28] <mumbles> now ive got to get the wireless card working :(
[04:28] <poet_> crimsun: breezy
[04:28] <crimsun> poet_: install build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:29] <crimsun> poet_: take your source and compile it using CC=gcc-3.4 against linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:30] <srid> how do I use emacs-gtk2 with anti-aliased font path in ubuntu?
[04:30] <vax_> hi room
[04:31] <Drakonik> This is the channel for the Ubuntu linux distro, right?
[04:31] <rysiek|pl> yup
[04:32] <Drakonik> Just checking.
[04:32] <matt__> does anyone know where i can get the w32codecs from???
[04:32] <HymnToLife> !plf
[04:32] <ubotu> I heard plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:32] <p0mppu> matt__: mplayer site
[04:32] <p0mppu> mplayerhq.hu ?
[04:33] <matt__> i downloaded them ages ago via apt-get but ic ant now??
[04:33] <Drakonik> I just downloaded ubuntu 5.10 with BitTorrent, and I burned the .iso onto a CD I have. What do I do now? I've already tried booting from the CD, which is what I think I was supposed to do.
[04:33] <rysiek|pl> anybody knwos why the /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh script doesn't get called upon boot-up, when usplash is runnung, although it definetely should?
[04:33] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> it is
[04:34] <matt__> 
[04:34] <GnarusLeo> Activating windows in VMware seems to be an impossible task ... anyone got any clues?
[04:34] <tristanmike> Drakonik, out of curiosity, did you accedentilly burn the iso file as a single file? or when you look at the disc are there many files?
[04:34] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: yep, use QEMU
[04:34] <rysiek|pl> :)
[04:34] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, QEMU? whats that? Another VM?
[04:34] <Drakonik> tristanmike: One sec, let me look.
[04:35] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, and is it easier to activate it with that?
[04:35] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: yes, it's "another VM", but a GPLed one, too
[04:35] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: I haen't used it, actually, but I've seen it at work
[04:35] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, now _that_ i like, though I have bought vmware
[04:35] <sm> hi all.. what's a good way to schedule recording from audio streams nightly ?
[04:35] <nickrud> rysiek|pl, the first line of console-screen exits if usplash is running
[04:35] <Jhair> does QEMU support Windows XP?
[04:36] <Drakonik> tristanmike: It's not even seeing the CD.
[04:36] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: and I have never seen VMWare on Linux work
[04:36] <Jhair> I mean can I run Windows XP on it?
[04:36] <gzzzt> crimsun, at boot it still shows two alsa cards, and "initializing alsa". and even more the nforce2 audio is still described as "alsa mixer". what should i do else?
[04:36] <tristanmike> Drakonik, :? well, that's not right :P
[04:36] <rambo3> VMWare worked fine for me
[04:36] <rysiek|pl> jhair: I suppose you can. I have seen a Windows98SE installation (!) on QEMU on Debian on... PowerPC!!
[04:36] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, well, vmware is up and running and worsk great (!). Its actually impressive fast ... but the win activating thing doesnt work (couse it cant recognize my key with the Virtual hardware) ... think QEMU should have the same problem
[04:37] <rysiek|pl> I mean: Woindows98SE INSTALATOR
[04:37] <Drakonik> tristanmike: My burner has never worked quite right. At least, I think so, because I"ve rarely, if ever, used it before.
[04:37] <rambo3> but use allways gpl software if there is substitute.
[04:37] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: I have no idea, to be honest. I would just advise you to try it :)
[04:37] <tristanmike> Drakonik, do you normally have a problem reading disks?
[04:37] <Drakonik> NOpe.
[04:37] <Drakonik> Assuming they're un-damaged, of course.
[04:37] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, thanks for the advice then :) Ill give it a go
[04:37] <tristanmike> Drakonik, even burned ones?
[04:37] <Drakonik> Hm.
[04:38] <tristanmike> Drakonik, yes, hm indeed...what program did you used to burn?
[04:38] <Drakonik> Well, I don't think I've used any burned discs. At least, not in this box.
[04:38] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: yes, I know it exits, but look at the comment: "check if usplash is runing and skip this, we'll get run again later"
[04:38] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: and it doesn't :/
[04:38] <Drakonik> I used Hero Burning Rom. It's all we've got.
[04:38] <Drakonik> *Nero
[04:38] <tristanmike> Drakonik, that should be fine
[04:38] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: my pleasure. always like to advertise GPLed software ;)
[04:39] <GnarusLeo> yeah, got your back
[04:39] <Drakonik> Anyway. What were you saying about the .iso being one file, as opposed to several?
[04:39] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> When you browse your CD, do you see one .iso file ?
[04:39] <nickrud> rysiek|pl, good point.
[04:40] <gorkendel> hola
[04:40] <Drakonik> I can't browse the CD.
[04:40] <HymnToLife> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:40] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> then there's obviously a problem
[04:40] <Drakonik> I'm guessing that there was some kind burning error.
[04:40] <tristanmike> Drakonik, well, if you just "burned" the iso, you would have one file on the cd "image.iso" which is incorrect (it's a comman mistake) so you have to burn "the image file" or something similar which "decompresses" the iso and puts it in it's proper format
[04:40] <Drakonik> ALthough Nero didn't give me any.
[04:40] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: well, yeah, but I would dearly love to get this point to a point where the script actually gets called ;)
[04:40] <Drakonik> Hm.
[04:40] <Drakonik> I see.
[04:41] <tristanmike> Drakonik, if you can't browse the cd, then it may be possible that you didn't burn it..what does the file size say for the cd? or does it error saying there is no cd?
[04:41] <Healot> anyone successfully compiles dapper's firefox on breezy?
[04:41] <Drakonik> It says that there's no CD in the drive.
[04:42] <tristanmike> Drakonik, so it seems that there was a problem with the burning, did you get any errors while burning?
[04:42] <Drakonik> Nope. No errors at all.
[04:43] <tristanmike> only the one drive
[04:43] <nickrud> rysiek|pl  /etc/init.d/usplash is supposed to re run console.screen
[04:43] <rysiek|pl> yeah, looking into it right now
[04:44] <heyjoe2> anyone help with getting the computer to recognize a usb device?
[04:45] <Ex-Cyber> heyjoe2: what kind of device?
[04:46] <michael> deusche sever??
[04:46] <GnarusLeo> OMFG! Conserning win license authorizing with Virtual Machine, MS states that its "only one key pr. machine" - EVEN if its a virtual machine (wich PRESISELY uses the same hardware) ... Thats the most stupid off-GPL thing I have ever heard!
[04:46] <pedrocr> does ubuntu support ntfs RW by default?
[04:46] <HymnToLife> no
[04:46] <HymnToLife> ntfs is read only
[04:46] <pedrocr> HymnToLife: because I connected an external USB disk and it seems to be mounted RW
[04:47] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, did you get that?
[04:47] <pedrocr> HymnToLife: the /etc/mtab line says "rw"
[04:47] <chrisw69> hi
[04:47] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: get what?
[04:47] <michael> de server?????
[04:47] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, OMFG! Conserning win license authorizing with Virtual Machine, MS states that its "only one key pr. machine" - EVEN if its a virtual machine (wich PRESISELY uses the same hardware) ... Thats the most stupid off-GPL thing I have ever heard!
[04:47] <chrisw69> is it possible to use tahoma on linux?
[04:47] <heyjoe2> ex-cyber: it is a 128mb legend usb drive
[04:47] <rysiek|pl> pedrocr: there is a working way of getting RW NTFS on linux
[04:47] <rysiek|pl> pedrocr: gimme a sec
[04:48] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: yep, roflmao :] 
[04:48] <Healot> that's really dangerous...
[04:48] <Drakonik> Okay. How do I get the "image file" that I need to burn to the CD? I can't use my unzipping util, so do I need to download it or something?
[04:48] <pedrocr> rysiek|pl: yes, I know, but I'm mystified why ubuntu seems to mount rw without me doing anything
[04:48] <Healot> can be done, not recommended though...
[04:48] <GnarusLeo> nah, I used RW on nfts 4 years ago, it worked for about 1 year, then it crashed :)
[04:48] <rysiek|pl> pedrocr: it doesn't mount rw. the default driver doesn't support rw
[04:49] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> in Nero you choose "Open file"
[04:49] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: what did you use? Captive-NTFS?
[04:49] <idefix> when you have a script called runfs you run it with ./runfs, right?
[04:49] <HymnToLife> and open your.iso
[04:49] <louka> hi
[04:49] <Drakonik> Oh.
[04:49] <Drakonik> D'oh.
[04:49] <heyjoe2> Ex-Cyber: it is a 128mb legend usb driv
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, dont remember actually, think MDK had something unofficial ..
[04:49] <larsemil> idefix, sh runfs
[04:49] <shivan> Hi
[04:49] <idefix> why do I get a silly output like nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' ??
[04:50] <Drakonik> I hope this works. This is my last blank CD.
[04:50] <rysiek|pl> GnarusLeo: well, Captive uses the official Microsoft drivers - just establishes a compatibility layer between the M$ NTFS driver and the Linux kernel :] 
[04:50] <GnarusLeo> hehe,good luck :)
[04:50] <idefix> ./runfs and sh runfs both give it
[04:50] <GnarusLeo> rysiek|pl, that sounds safe enough? Ever tested it?
[04:50] <chrisw69> can i use tahoma on linux?
[04:50] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> hold on a sec
[04:50] <tristanmike> chrisw69, the font?
[04:50] <chrisw69> ya
[04:51] <Ex-Cyber> heyjoe2: I'm not sure what to suggest... normally USB drives "just work" in ubuntu
[04:51] <idefix> larsemil?
[04:51] <nickrud> idefix, that's an info thing; you might be able to get rid of it with a >/dev/null in the right place in the script
[04:51] <larsemil> idefix,  dont know
[04:51] <tristanmike> chrisw69, i think you'll have to bring a copy of the ttf over, but all "ttf's" can be used un Ubuntu
[04:51] <idefix> am I allowed to paste the script into here? I was just trying to install this program called slimeforest
[04:51] <idefix> it's only three lines
[04:52] <chrisw69> how do i install it?
[04:52] <heyjoe2> Ex-Cyber: i plug it in and nothing happens
[04:52] <heyjoe2> Ex-Cyber: and it works a charm on the mac os x's at uni
[04:52] <jan_> when i do a lspci i get id on my wlan card: 0000:02:07.0, but it's supposed to be on the form XXXX:XXXX. What is the trick here?
[04:52] <tristanmike> chrisw69, you should be able to drop it in your /home/<user>./fonts  directory
[04:52] <heyjoe2> ohwell. anyone else know how to specially configure usb drives?
[04:53] <chrisw69> cool thanks
[04:53] <idefix> #!/bin/sh
[04:53] <idefix>   cd `dirname $0`/jquest
[04:53] <idefix>   nohup ./jquest -fullscreen (is this supposed to install the downloaded program slimeforest?)
[04:53] <tristanmike> chrisw69, er/home/<user>/.fonts
[04:53] <tristanmike> grrr!
[04:53] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> here's what you need to use http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8537/nero1gj.jpg
[04:53] <tristanmike> chrisw69, that is    /home/<user>/.fonts
[04:53] <shivan> wtf ? oaidl_p.c:5455: Fehler: Zuweisung der schreibgeschtzten Variable guid
[04:53] <larsemil> heyjoe2, tried mounting it? do a dmesg and se if ubuntu recognizes it as a disk
[04:53] <shivan> Pls help me
[04:53] <idefix> :-|
[04:54] <Drakonik> There's a problem. It says that I can't start a multi-session disc for some reason.
[04:54] <larsemil> idefix, u have nohup on comp?
[04:54] <DjDarkman> hi ,how can i restart alsa?
[04:54] <tristanmike> multi-session?
[04:54] <idefix> there is a man nohup, so I think so..
[04:54] <chrisw69> thanks
[04:54] <tristanmike> Drakonik, it should be saying that
[04:54] <mike-e> hi where's the wiki for upgrading hoary to breezy
[04:54] <shivan> Can you help me pls -> oaidl_p.c:5455: Fehler: Zuweisung der schreibgeschtzten Variable guid
[04:54] <HymnToLife> Drakonik> see the red ellipsearound the open button, click on it
[04:54] <nickrud> idefix, no idea, never heard of it. > /dev/null after -fullscreen should get rid of the info message though
[04:55] <HymnToLife> and choose your iso
[04:55] <idefix> I'd rather have the message and the game installed
[04:55] <briceg> oh yes common goodbye!
[04:55] <shivan> Some1 from german ?
[04:55] <Drakonik> You must have a different verion than mine.
[04:55] <HymnToLife> !de
[04:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:55] <axisys> how do I access global address book suing evolution?
[04:55] <rysiek|pl> shivan: #ubuntu-de
[04:55] <Drakonik> Mine is probably four or five years old.
[04:55] <idefix> I'd just like the game installed!
[04:55] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:55] <axisys> !evolution
[04:55] <ubotu> axisys: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <tristanmike> Drakonik, look for an option "burn image file" or similar
[04:56] <HymnToLife> can you gat me a screenshot of yourd ?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> yours*
[04:56] <Drakonik> Will do.
[04:56] <axisys> !addressbook
[04:56] <ubotu> axisys: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:56] <jimjawn> Hey all!  I'm having mad problems with ctrl+backspace resetting my gnome-session.  I think it might be XGL anyone know how to fix it?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> jimjawn: please ask in #xgl-ubuntu
[04:57] <Drakonik> Okay, I saw the burn image file, and it's running.
[04:57] <tristanmike> Drakonik, that should work for you
[04:57] <jimjawn> gnomefreak thanks
[04:57] <gnomefreak> jimyw
[04:57] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, to late :P
[04:58] <gnomefreak> lol what else is new :)
[04:58] <gareth> hi
[04:58] <gareth> ive just hosed my PC
[04:58] <gareth> as in 100% gone
[04:58] <gnomefreak> gareth: what did you do?
[04:58] <gareth> and as i cant reinstall windows, i could use some help
[04:58] <gareth> i intended to install ubuntu on a separate partition
[04:58] <gareth> but windows wouldnt boot after that
[04:59] <paradizelost> Hey all.  I'm having some problems getting vncserver to work
[04:59] <windowmaker> HAH
[04:59] <gareth> so i cant install windows- because it was oem
[04:59] <windowmaker> that's so funny to see as son as you enter a channel
[04:59] <paradizelost> it seems to start, but doesn't
[04:59] <gareth> so, i need to know how to use this
[04:59] <tristanmike> gareth, do you mean you borked it resizing your partition?
[04:59] <paradizelost> and i'm not getting any errors
[04:59] <gareth> not exactly
[04:59] <vars> !nvidia
[04:59] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:00] <gareth> it worked the partition resize let ubuntu boot, but 2 windows files got lost
[05:00] <gareth> at least thats what i think
[05:00] <gareth> but now i only have ubuntu
[05:00] <jadrifter> Good Morning all.
[05:00] <tritium> gareth: not likely
[05:00] <Drakonik> Okay. The CD is burned.
[05:00] <Drakonik> Now, how do I boot from it?
[05:00] <gareth> so i need to know, does ubuntu have a firewall included in the default install?
[05:00] <codemac> Is there somewhere I can search online for officially supported packages for ubuntu?
[05:01] <paradizelost> gareth: i recommend installing firestarter
[05:01] <nickrud> gareth, check to see that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9962 is at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst , if not add it
[05:01] <WilliamCai> Hello guys
[05:01] <jadrifter> Anyone know how to change the default editor from nano to vim in Ubuntu?  I can't find the setting in /etc
[05:01] <tristanmike> Drakonik, so take the same steps, in your BIOS configure your boot order to boot from cd (if it isn't already)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Drakonik: put it in the cdrom reboot go into bios make sure you change it to boot from cdrom
[05:01] <idefix> what does it mean when you run a command immune to hangups?
[05:01] <Drakonik> I don't want to make it permanent, though.
[05:01] <nickrud> jadrifter, sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[05:01] <tristanmike> Drakonik, we'll change it back :)
[05:01] <WilliamCai> Could anybody show me some clues about the status of Ubuntu Server features?
[05:01] <Drakonik> D'oh!
[05:01] <Drakonik> RIght. I...forgot about that.
[05:02] <Drakonik> Well, I'm going to reboot, and if it works, then I'll come back here and report, somehow.
[05:02] <kumy> hi
[05:02] <vars> hey i have a geforcefx 5500 is that a gforce 2?
[05:02] <jadrifter> nickrud, god bless you!  I was going crazy!
[05:02] <tristanmike> Drakonik, see you in a half hour to an hour
[05:02] <Drakonik> Alrighty then.
[05:03] <kumy> I've a problem : my "lo" interface doesn't start at boot... could you help me ? please
[05:03] <paradizelost> Hey, can anyone help me with vncserver?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> vars: install the nvidia-setting and the nvidia-glx
[05:03] <tristanmike> Drakonik, hint, once your installed "Applications-Internet-xchat"
[05:03] <Ohm> HI guys
[05:03] <jadrifter> update-alternatives.  Is that a Ubuntu program?  I've never seen it before.
[05:03] <Ohm> How can I KILL a program in process?
[05:03] <Drakonik> Thanks. I was hoping there'd be an IRC client in there.
[05:03] <tristanmike> Drakonik, you know it ;)
[05:03] <paradizelost> ohm:  kill -9 pid or killall -9 programname
[05:03] <Drakonik> Hasta luego, mi amigos.
[05:03] <Ohm> I can't stop it, clickong in X close
[05:03] <nickrud> jadrifter, it's a debian thing, carried over. all the alternatives are listed in /etc/alternatives
[05:03] <Ohm> hmmmm
[05:03] <paradizelost> ah,  xkill
[05:03] <idefix> can anyone explain to me how to install a just downloaded program?
[05:03] <Ohm> I will try that
[05:03] <michael> dusche sever?????????'
[05:04] <michael> deusche
[05:04] <vars> gnomefreek   is the binary how to the one i need to follow?
[05:04] <paradizelost> ohm: just be careful where you click
[05:04] <Ohm> kill -9 pid? what does mean PID?
[05:04] <paradizelost> process id
[05:04] <tristanmike> idefix, which program ?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> vars: yes just install the 2 i said above
[05:04] <rambo3> process id
[05:04] <paradizelost> if you do a ps -eaf, it'll list everything that's running
[05:04] <idefix> sfa
[05:04] <Ohm> hmmm, the program name in the case
[05:04] <Ohm> oks
[05:04] <paradizelost> there's a process id number
[05:04] <gnomefreak> michael: #ubuntu-de
[05:04] <idefix> or slimeforest, a program to learn japanese hiragana and katakana
[05:04] <jadrifter> nickrud, I was just going through the manfile.  Beautiful!  Gotta love "The Debian Way".
[05:04] <tristanmike> idefix, sfa?
[05:04] <vars> ok i've done that and just that
[05:05] <paradizelost> ohm:  or, if you are really having problems in X,  CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[05:05] <vars> gnomefreak, do i have to enable it or anything?
[05:05] <paradizelost> it will kill X
[05:05] <vars> or just start x?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> vars: are you on breezy?
[05:05] <jadrifter> nickrud, thanks again.  I'm a sys admin, we're switching our servers to Ubuntu, and I keep getting nano when I go to edit unless I remember to set the visual env.
[05:05] <vars> yes breezy
[05:05] <vars> --- server install though
[05:05] <nickrud> jadrifter, yeah, that's exactly where you want to be as an admin :)
[05:05] <vars> shouldn't be a problem
[05:05] <Ohm> but CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, logoff?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> vars: you have any gui?
[05:06] <vars> fluxbox
[05:06] <paradizelost> ohm:  it kills X and everything that would be running in X at the time
[05:06] <tristanmike> idefix, how did it download ? deb? tar.bz2 ?
[05:06] <Ohm> My problem is, the GNOME ART-MANAGER is dowloading 1500!!!! backgrounds
[05:06] <gnomefreak> vars: ok use the enable command shown on that page than restart X
[05:06] <idefix> sfa.tgz
[05:06] <Ohm> and, I can't stop it
[05:06] <idefix> tristanmike: sfa.tgz
[05:06] <vars> gnomefreek thankyou
[05:06] <paradizelost> how did you pull that off??? ;)
[05:06] <kumy> anyone for my loopback interface problem that doesn't start at boot ?
[05:07] <paradizelost> xkill should do the trick
[05:07] <gnomefreak> vars: yw but you may also need to run another command
[05:07] <ryanakca> to switch from kubuntu to ubuntu or xubuntu without having to downloading an install disk, you just go "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" once you've got "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" (if you want to get rid of kubuntu)   and vice versa for ubuntu - kde or xubuntu, right?
[05:07] <tristanmike> idefix, ok, so right click on the file and select "extract here"
[05:07] <idefix> I moved the directory to ~/bin
[05:07] <paradizelost> just run xkill, then click in the window you want to ogo away
[05:07] <idefix> should I extract it to the desktop you mean?
[05:07] <tristanmike> idefix, yes
[05:07] <Ohm> How I see a programa ID?
[05:07] <nickrud> ryanakca, install yes, but uninstall no
[05:07] <paradizelost> you won't need the pid with xkill
[05:08] <idefix> ok there is now a slimeforest directory on my desktop
[05:08] <paradizelost> xkill will turn your mouse cursor into a skull and crossbones
[05:08] <Ohm> hmmmm
[05:08] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: that will remove the meta package but there is alot more involved than just running apt-get remove
[05:08] <Ohm> good
[05:08] <paradizelost> just click in the window you want to go away
[05:08] <tristanmike> idefix, you should do all your work from somewhere in your /home<usrname>  directory, I perfer working from the Desktop then cleaning up after I'm done
[05:08] <axisys> !ldap
[05:08] <ubotu> axisys: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:08] <axisys> !openldap
[05:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[05:08] <Ohm> It is the KILLPROGRAM in KURUMIN?
[05:08] <paradizelost> just be careful not to click on the desktop or anyhing
[05:08] <vars> gnomefreak, what is the other command that i need to run?
[05:08] <nickrud> lol
[05:08] <paradizelost> not familiar with kurmin
[05:08] <axisys> is there a openldap pkg out there for ubuntu?
[05:08] <Ohm> hmmmm
[05:08] <Ng> axisys: yes
[05:09] <Ohm> oks
[05:09] <tristanmike> idefix, ok, enter the directory and search for either something that ends in ".sh" or something that says "configure" do you see either?
[05:09] <Ohm> I will try
[05:09] <Ng> axisys: it's probably called slapd
[05:09] <gnomefreak> vars: you might have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you have the driver setting to nvidia
[05:09] <tristanmike> idefix, can I get a link to the file to see what you have?
[05:09] <rysiek|pl> brb
[05:09] <idefix> there's runfs.sh, runwin.sh, two txt files and a jquest directory
[05:09] <paradizelost> anyone available to assist me w/ vncserver, i installed it, it seems to start, no errors, but doesn't
[05:09] <idefix> http://lrnj.com/
[05:10] <Drakonik> Well, that was a resounding failure.
[05:10] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, "vncserver :0" gives you what?
[05:10] <tristanmike> Drakonik, ohhh, why? same thing?
[05:10] <chrisw69> hi there
[05:10] <Ohm> :) thats OK!
[05:10] <Ohm> thanks!
[05:10] <paradizelost> says that it's taken
[05:10] <henk> in gnome my volume wheel on my keyboard works and it shows a popup with the volume. How do i get this in kde ?
[05:10] <paradizelost> but i want to havea vncserver running on :1
[05:10] <idefix> tristanmike http://lrnj.com
[05:10] <jager> anyone know a way to detect machines that are spewing virii on a local network?
[05:10] <Drakonik> Well, my BIOS was already configured to use Boot-from-CD as it's first priority, however: It iddn't boot from the CD.
[05:10] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, "vncserver :1" then?
[05:11] <paradizelost> New 'sobek:1 (dan)' desktop is sobek:1
[05:11] <jager> i thought maybe etherape would show me this traffic but it does not appear to do so
[05:11] <tristanmike> Drakonik, can your browse the cd now?
[05:11] <paradizelost> but it doesn't actually start
[05:11] <Drakonik> One sec
[05:11] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, what do you mean? What error do you get?
[05:11] <tristanmike> chrisw69, hi, please keep all conversation here, thank you :)
[05:11] <chrisw69> ok
[05:11] <paradizelost> no error, but there is no process running when it finishes
[05:11] <chrisw69> i can't copy to the font folder
[05:11] <chrisw69> it says i don't have permission
[05:12] <chrisw69> I'm new :\
[05:12] <tristanmike> chrisw69, you can't copy to /home/chris69/.fonts  ?
[05:12] <Lorentz`> evening people
[05:12] <jager> in fact it shows me less traffic than i expected by far
[05:12] <tristanmike> chrisw69, it's no worries at all =)
[05:12] <Lorentz`> i'm currently working on changing the default gnome menu items for a corporate rollout of ubuntu
[05:12] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, so when you type "vncserver :2" or whatever .. do you get something like "New 'X' desktop is tryodin:2
[05:12] <GnarusLeo> " ?
[05:12] <Lorentz`> but according to the manual, i should be able to enter applications-all-users:/// in nautilus
[05:12] <Drakonik> Nope. It's not reading a CD.
[05:12] <Lorentz`> it gives me an error though
[05:13] <Lorentz`> anyone who can tell me wether applications-all-users://, preferences-all-users://, etc have been removed in ubuntu?
[05:13] <tristanmike> Drakonik, hmmm
[05:13] <paradizelost> yes.  but if i do a ps -eaf there is no process in the list, and i cannot connect to the session
[05:13] <tristanmike> Drakonik, do you have other burned cd's there you can try...?
[05:13] <chrisw69> i can't copy the font i want over though
[05:13] <vars> ok how many kb asre in a Mb
[05:13] <idefix> tristanmike? do I need java or something for the program?
[05:13] <chrisw69> how do i do it?
[05:13] <Drakonik> There was the first one I burned which had the same problem.
[05:13] <tristanmike> idefix, sorry, I don't think so....looking....
[05:14] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, do a "ps aux | grep vnc" and check for any XrealVNC or something in that list
[05:14] <paradizelost> root      6249  0.0  0.0   1624   492 pts/2    S+   10:20   0:00 grep vnc
[05:14] <paradizelost> is the only item
[05:14] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: how do you remove kubuntu / kde and install ubuntu / gnome? or can they co-exist?
[05:14] <vars> ok how many kb are  in a Mb  i am serious
[05:14] <paradizelost> vars:1024
[05:15] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, hm, thats strange ... have you checked your deamons?
[05:15] <paradizelost> for example???
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: they can both be installed on system and you choose to use either one at log-in screen under sessions
[05:15] <tristanmike> idefix, ok, easy peasy
[05:15] <Ohm> My totem cantt open any video :( What I do?
[05:15] <tristanmike> idefix, i ran the game in full screen there and couldn't get back, :P lol
[05:15] <vars> so a 256 MB would have 256*1024   kb?
[05:15] <paradizelost> vars: http://familyinternet.about.com/cs/computinghelp/l/aa052401a.htm
[05:16] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, probably an easier way to display them, but old school I use the "service" command (not installed default by ubuntu) to list my services
[05:16] <gnomefreak> vars yes
[05:16] <idefix> so it works on your PC!
[05:16] <idefix> tristanmike..
[05:16] <tristanmike> idefix, simply cd into the slimeforest folder and type "./runfs" for full screen and "./runwin" for windowed mode
[05:16] <tristanmike> idefix, yeah, looks neat
[05:16] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, what is good old "service" command substitued with in ubuntu?
[05:16] <idefix> when I do this I get nohup: appending output to `nohup.out`
[05:17] <tristanmike> Drakonik, I'm beginning to suspect a bad drive
[05:17] <idefix> when I do this I get nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[05:17] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: ok, I got the problem with console-screen.sh not being called by usplash almost pinned-down, would you help me for 5 mins with a sorta long IF condition?
[05:17] <Drakonik> It's possible.
[05:17] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, top ?
[05:17] <nickrud> rysiek|pl, I'm a low intermediate bash scripter, but I'll look :)
[05:17] <Drakonik> But, I don't think my drive is bad. It read everything else I put in.
[05:17] <idefix> oh heck!
[05:17] <tristanmike> Drakonik, do you have another burned cd, aside from the first one, you can try and read dat off ?
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, can you stop and start services with top?
[05:18] <Drakonik> Hm.
[05:18] <Drakonik> Let me look. I might be able to find one.
[05:18] <vars> gnomefreak, should i use frambuffer/
[05:18] <vars> ?
[05:18] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo, man top  :P
[05:18] <chrisw69> can anyone tell me how to install tahoma on my system
[05:18] <nickrud> GnarusLeo, invoke-rc.d is the services semi-equiv
[05:18] <rysiek|pl> !pastebin
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:18] <gnomefreak> vars: start with no
[05:18] <idefix> tristanmike, how come your linux does it and mine doesn't?!
[05:18] <vars> wha the heck is frmaebuffer?
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> there you  have it, thanks nickrud  ... paradizelost, did you get that?
[05:19] <paradizelost> nuts, was looking elsewhere..
[05:19] <paradizelost> get what?
[05:19] <idefix> :'''(
[05:19] <Drak|Busy> Okay. One drive can read the burned CD. Now to test the other.
[05:19] <GnarusLeo> use invoke-rc.d to display your deamons
[05:20] <idefix> tristanmike? you still with me?
[05:20] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: this seems TRUE upon shutdown, but FALSE upon boot-up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9963
[05:20] <tristanmike> idefix, sorry
[05:20] <tristanmike> idefix, phone call
[05:20] <idefix> nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[05:20] <idefix> that's what I get
[05:20] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: and this needs to be TRUE if the console-screen.sh script is to be executed
[05:20] <tobias_> #ubuntu.se
[05:20] <Drak|Busy> Well, I think I may have found the problem.
[05:20] <remybr> Hello, I need some help. I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a imac 233. Anyone know how to disable DRI during the instalation?
[05:20] <paradizelost> ok, so with that, what should i be checking to get vncserver working?
[05:20] <tristanmike> idefix, so you "cd slimeforest" and run "./runwin" and nothing?
[05:21] <axisys> Ng: I just need the ldap client.. slapd is the answer?
[05:21] <Drak|Busy> The burning drive can't read the burned CD>
[05:21] <Drak|Busy> Let me rebot and try again.
[05:21] <idefix>  ./runwin
[05:21] <idefix> nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[05:21] <nickrud> rysiek|pl, I don't know what half of those things are supposed to do in the first place
[05:21] <gnomefreak> abs guide :)
[05:21] <idefix> tristanmike  ./runwin
[05:21] <idefix> nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[05:22] <rysiek|pl> nickrud: ok, I'll set some more debug in place in usplash script (so that we know, what is TRUE and waht's not) and reboot to see the output
[05:22] <paradizelost> ok, i loaded tightvncserver instead of vnc4server, but i get an error about not being able to open default font 'fixed'
[05:22] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, I hounestly dont know ... just found out that vncserver wasnt a daemon at all .. sry
[05:22] <tristanmike> idefix, it appears it may be library issues, like you don't have the proper ones installed
[05:22] <tristanmike> idefix, ....looking.....
[05:22] <idefix> so.. how do I fix this?
[05:23] <GnarusLeo> damn VMware takes alot of mem
[05:23] <Healot> yes...
[05:23] <paradizelost> gnarusleo: what version of vmware are you using?
[05:24] <HymnToLife> what did you expect ? lol
[05:24] <HymnToLife> you run your OS twice
[05:24] <axisys> !slapd
[05:24] <ubotu> axisys: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:24] <w0rmz> when is the next release of ubuntu ?
[05:24] <rysiek|pl> april
[05:24] <gnomefreak> april 20th
[05:24] <nickrud> !info slapd
[05:24] <ubotu> slapd: (OpenLDAP server (slapd)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.26-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 844 kB, Installed size: 2396 kB
[05:24] <tristanmike> idefix, the readme is crap
[05:24] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, VMware Player 1.0.1 build-19175
[05:24] <paradizelost> because with vmware server, you can have it cache most of the vm's to disk, reduce the memory usage if you don't use the virtual machine for a while
[05:25] <paradizelost> i'd use vmware server, it's also free now.
[05:25] <axisys> nickrud: it should have ldapsearch tool no?
[05:25] <paradizelost> it's the equivalent of Vmware GSX
[05:25] <GnarusLeo> HymnToLife, of course ;) but 30% was more then expected ..
[05:25] <paradizelost> and you can create virtual machines
[05:25] <nickrud> axisys, you can find out what's in a package on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:25] <paradizelost> that's what i have running on about 5 machines
[05:25] <idefix> tristanmike, how long do you use linux?
[05:25] <w0rmz> gnomefreak. thanks dude
[05:25] <GnarusLeo> Whats bothering me now is the windows activating on VMware(!)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:25] <axisys> nickrud: i will chk it out.. thnx
[05:25] <tristanmike> idefix, since June of last year
[05:25] <remybr> Hello, I need some help. I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a imac 233. Anyone know how to disable DRI during the instalation?
[05:26] <tristanmike> idefix, open synaptic and search for "sdl"
[05:26] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, how did your win activation go? If you have it
[05:26] <vars> gnomefreak yay it works
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:26] <paradizelost> just fine.
[05:26] <emad__> Hi there
[05:26] <paradizelost> if you have activated the os before, you may need to call M$
[05:26] <paradizelost> just tell them you are doing a re-install
[05:26] <idefix> tristanmike maybe it works on hoary and not on my version
[05:27] <tristanmike> idefix, i'm on breezy
[05:27] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I meant to ask, did you ever get e17 working?
[05:27] <GnarusLeo> where will that get you ... apperantly they policy says one key pr machine (EVEN though its a virtual) ...
[05:27] <idefix> tristanmike hmm, strange
[05:27] <gnomefreak> nickrud: nope
[05:27] <tristanmike> idefix, did you search for "sdl" ?
[05:27] <paradizelost> they don't need to know that.
[05:27] <paradizelost> :D
[05:27] <idefix> tristanmike it isn't in the list
[05:27] <nickrud> gnomefreak, then I'm gonna try one last thing today, then give up
[05:27] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you couldnt get it either?
[05:27] <paradizelost> or, you could try a volume license version of windows
[05:28] <tristanmike> idefix, in synaptic, look for libsdl1.2debian and is it installed ?
[05:28] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, which is?
[05:28] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I ran into some issues, ran out of time, and haven't had the time to try again
[05:28] <paradizelost> doesn't require activation, because it can be used on an indefinite number of systems w the same key
[05:28] <paradizelost> normally used in corporations
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ahh
[05:28] <vars> ok, now copuld someone who has actually done this in th past help me with this?   i have a seperate /home with my home information on it and i just reinstalled breezy, how do i recover my old user information?
[05:28] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, nah, dont use any pirate keys
[05:29] <idefix> tristanmike, there are 5  libsdl1.2debian 's
[05:29] <transgress> can i ask dapper questions in here or does it have to be in #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <transgress> ?
[05:29] <GnarusLeo> paradizelost, not _that_ desperate to get win up running :)
[05:29] <emad__> I need your help I have just installed ubuntu last releas and when I use synaptic to install gnome-blutooth the error message says :gnome-bluetooth:
[05:29] <emad__>  Depends: libbtctl2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:29] <emad__>  Depends: libopenobex-1.0-0 (>=1.0.0-rel) but it is not installable
[05:29] <emad__>  Depends: python2.4-libbtctl but it is not going to be installed
[05:29] <HymnToLife> paradizelost> or with OEM PCs
[05:29] <paradizelost> then just call the activation center, and tell them taht it's a re-install
[05:29] <idefix>  libsdl1.2debian -alsa, -arts, -esd, -nas and -oss
[05:29] <gnomefreak> nickrud: not for e17 you wont find one worth a crap
[05:29] <tristanmike> idefix, just the "libsdl1.2debian" nothing else
[05:29] <GnarusLeo> !tell emad__ spam
[05:29] <rysiek|pl> gotta go, guys
[05:29] <tristanmike> idefix, is it installed ?
[05:29] <paradizelost> OEM pc's require activation
[05:29] <HymnToLife> the Windows version I got with my HPs don't require activation either
[05:29] <LoCusF> !spam
[05:29] <nickrud> gnomefreak, yours ;p
[05:29] <paradizelost> hmm most of them that i see do
[05:29] <rysiek|pl> cu all, cu nickrud, thx for the help :)
[05:29] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LoCusF
[05:29] <gnomefreak> emad__: no pasting in here please use pastebin for all your pasting needs
[05:29] <idefix> tristanmike the square next to it is green
[05:29] <nickrud> selinium, ryanakca
[05:30] <emad__> ok sorry
[05:30] <tristanmike> idefix, ok, that's installed
[05:30] <GnarusLeo> !tell emad__ pastebin
[05:30] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud i havent had time to look at it but i think compiling is best bet
[05:30] <nickrud> darn completion
[05:30] <gnomefreak> maybe not
[05:30] <gnomefreak> hold on a min
[05:30] <GnarusLeo> !tell ?
[05:30] <idefix> tristanmike, so what else could be the problem?
[05:31] <tristanmike> idefix, hmm, I suspect libraries because no where does it mention java, flash, or any other crazy software to run, it does mention some libraries are needed but is not specific, the readme as I said, is crap
[05:32] <sanbec> Hi
[05:32] <idefix> tristanmike, well I've gotta go, thanks for your help, I guess I'll have to live without the program
[05:32] <Ash-Fox_> !ati
[05:32] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:32] <tristanmike> idefix, wait, one more thin
[05:33] <tristanmike> idefix, enter the "jquest" directory inside slime forest
[05:33] <emad__> any one can help me for gnome-buetooth ?
[05:33] <paradizelost> any of you guys know how to get squirrelmail working properly on ubuntu?
[05:33] <idefix> ok
[05:33] <tristanmike> idefix, and double click on the "jquest" icon
[05:33] <GnarusLeo> !bluetooth
[05:33] <ubotu> bluetooth is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[05:33] <idefix> tristanmike, nothing happens
[05:33] <paradizelost> i've installed it, but can't access it through the web server that i can find...
[05:33] <GnarusLeo> emad__, easy howtos
[05:33] <tristanmike> idefix, ok, see the file nohup.out ? open it and see what it says
[05:34] <idefix> ./jquest: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:34] <emad__> but there is an error when I need to install it
[05:34] <sanbec> In firefox, when I click over an irc link, I get a message like "IRC is an unknown protocol"
[05:34] <GnarusLeo> emad__, wich error?
[05:34] <Drakonik> Is there some kind of button that I'm supposed to hit to boot from a CD?
[05:34] <Drakonik> If there is, I've never heard of it.
[05:34] <tristanmike> idefix, search for "libsdl-image1.2" in synaptic and install
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> Draconicus, depends on your bios
[05:35] <sanbec> I want any progrna like x-chat to be opened
[05:35] <idefix> tristanmike? is that all? will it work then?
[05:35] <vars> ok, now copuld someone who has actually done this in th past help me with this?   i have a seperate /home with my home information on it and i just reinstalled breezy, how do i recover my old user information?
[05:35] <tristanmike> idefix, I suspect
[05:35] <emad__> gnome-bluetooth: Depends: libbtctl2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:35] <emad__> what shoul i do
[05:35] <paradizelost> vars:  you would just mount that partition to /home
[05:35] <HymnToLife> vars> by just remounting your old /home partition on /home
[05:35] <dyrne> Drakonik: some laptops (toshiba ) you can just hit like 'c' at bootup but normally you have to strike esc or f1 and change the boot order for the computer
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> emad__, then install the libs
[05:35] <emad__> ?
[05:36] <paradizelost> mount /dev/sd## /home
[05:36] <HymnToLife> (assuming you have the same usernam)
[05:36] <GnarusLeo> emad__, "sudo apt-get install libbtctl2"
[05:36] <Drakonik> Crap. I guess that means I'll have to dig though my BIOS and look for a key I'm supposed to hit.
[05:36] <emad__> it says : but it is not going to be installed for each lib I want to install it seperately
[05:36] <idefix> tristanmike, do I click "Mark All Upgrades" now?
[05:36] <tristanmike> Drakonik, your not on a mac are you?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> nickrud: i just heard compiling it is easy :(
[05:36] <Drakonik> Nope. PC. Desktop.
[05:36] <rumburack> hi is there someone with hamachi installed ? i need a little help with connecting to friens
[05:37] <tristanmike> idefix, yeah, just put a check in that one box, and install anything it wants to
[05:37] <GnarusLeo> emad__, did you do what I told you?
[05:37] <vars> i did taht at installation, but i can't just pickup my old user account where it was left off
[05:37] <tristanmike> Drakonik, is it a Dell or something?
[05:37] <emad__> yes yes yes I know
[05:37] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I'm probably gonna just get all the debs, and do a dpkg -i * (thank god for aptitude for cleanup, if it really gets choppy)
[05:37] <Drakonik> Nope. Not a dell.
[05:37] <Drakonik> It's a "Pravo"
[05:37] <Drakonik> And really, really old.
[05:37] <emad__> can I talk to U in private ?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:37] <Drakonik> At least, I think so.
[05:37] <GnarusLeo> emad__, shoot
[05:37] <Drakonik> It's probably been in the family for a decade or so.
[05:38] <emad__> first thing ( I'm new in ubuntu  )
[05:38] <tristanmike> Drakonik, lol, well, I would see if your cd's boot in a friends computer, or at least browseable
[05:38] <Drakonik> The motherboard has been upgraded, though.
[05:38] <GnarusLeo> emad__, guess what :) Me too
[05:38] <Drakonik> Hm.
[05:38] <emad__> and I'm from kuwait too
[05:38] <Protocol1> can someone help me on getting proper glx support for my intel video card?
[05:38] <gnomefreak> lol at i cant compile it
[05:38] <emad__> poor in english so be patient with me
[05:38] <GnarusLeo> emad__, well, just dont speak kuwaiti to me and we'll be fine :)
[05:38] <dyrne> Protocol1: its onboard video?
[05:39] <Drakonik> I guess I could try loading it on mom's lap-top.
[05:39] <emad__> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool I hope you will know
[05:39] <Q-FUNK> is there any repository where I could find versions of ubuntu-artwork prior to 3? i.e. prior to ubuntulooks
[05:39] <Protocol1> dyrne, yeah
[05:39] <Protocol1> its a laptop
[05:39] <tristanmike> Drakonik, just see if it's browesable, no need to write anything over
[05:39] <nosilver4u> anyone know why svgs wouldn't give me previews randomly?
[05:39] <tristanmike> Drak|Away, just see if it's browesable, no need to write anything over
[05:39] <Drak|Away> Yeah, I know.
[05:40] <rumburack> pls Hamachi users PM me :)
[05:40] <tristanmike> idefix, how's it comming ?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> nickrud: do you still have that site (the repo)
[05:40] <dyrne> Protocol1: i just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the video driver to i810 annd the other settings default.  worked for me
[05:40] <nosilver4u> i have one folder with 2 svgs and some other images, and previews show up in nautilus just fine, but then i have another with tons of svgs, and no previews
[05:40] <pfhortron> dgen won't work
[05:40] <GnarusLeo> emad__, well ... you havent actually asked me anything yet, so Ill take a shower, and maybe we'll talk when I get back ... ok
[05:40] <tristanmike> not well it seems
[05:40] <Protocol1> dyrne, the video card is a Intel 82852 / 855GM
[05:40] <Drac|Crate> Hmm..
[05:41] <Protocol1> its running off that right now...i selected the i810
[05:41] <emad__> ok ok as you like :(
[05:41] <poet_> @all: the bet way to compile modulos in ubuntu is with module-assistant ?
[05:41] <dyrne> Protocol1: the i810 should work i havent used the 910 driver. it should be an option in dapper but not breezy i thing
[05:41] <poet_> s/bet/best
[05:41] <paradizelost> anyone know how to install the default fixed font?
[05:41] <dyrne> think*
[05:41] <nickrud> http://www.soulmachine.net/breezy/ gnomefreak
[05:41] <paradizelost> what package i'd look for?
[05:41] <tristanmike> emad__, what's the trouble ?
[05:42] <stendhal> hello i search a strategy game
[05:42] <stendhal> pleas
[05:42] <nickrud> poet_, so we are all told
[05:42] <emad__> I want to install gnome-bluetooth , I need it but it wont
[05:42] <tristanmike> stendhal, "Battle for Wesnoth"
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud  btw you cant compile it :( the depends blow (for dapper atleast)
[05:42] <pfhortron> can anyone compile pcsx on ppc ubuntu?
[05:42] <stendhal> tristan_,  i have already this
[05:42] <Protocol1> I sure hope so....cause im using cedega and I can only run one of my favorite games in software mode
[05:42] <Drac|Crate> I think I'm having problems with audio CD support. Is there any reason why audio CDs would have difficulty playing in a 16x or 8x drive?
[05:42] <stendhal> an other pleas
[05:42] <stendhal> :)
[05:43] <Protocol1> there is an option to use opengl...but it is very choppy
[05:43] <paradizelost> drac|crate: do you have DMA turned on?
[05:43] <frank___> someone wanna give me the veritcl and hoirzontal refresh numbers from their xorg.conf file(for 1024x768 @ 60Hz), or tell me how i can run xorgconfig
[05:43] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I won't be compiling it, I have religious reasons :)
[05:43] <paradizelost> hdparm -d /dev/cdrom
[05:43] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, I'm not sure. How do I check?
[05:43] <g3nocide> someone wanna give me the veritcl and hoirzontal refresh numbers from their xorg.conf file(for 1024x768 @ 60Hz), or tell me how i can run xorgconfig
[05:43] <paradizelost> or hdparm -d /dev/hd##
[05:43] <pfhortron> I almost compiled mupen64 in ppc ubuntu
[05:43] <paradizelost> whatever your cdrom is
[05:43] <gnomefreak> lol i dont blame you but im wondering how this is gonna work on dapper :(
[05:43] <nickrud> g3nocide, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:43] <matrix> Can any one tell me how to connect to VPN
[05:43] <emad__> many applications in Synaptic wont install
[05:43] <tristanmike> stendhal, stratagus ?
[05:43] <ddonky> i clicked on the update thing and it said it was going to install a bunch of stuff like python, so i dod it, and then a message came up saying totem didnt upgrade and i need to run synaptic smart update, or apt-get dist upgrade, what does this mean?
[05:44] <poet_> nickrud, ?
[05:44] <g3nocide> nickrud: thanks
[05:44] <matrix> Can any one please tell me how to connect to VPN
[05:44] <stendhal> Tristanmike thanks
[05:44] <nickrud> poet_, it's a good standard method. I was a bit flippant there, sorry
[05:44] <burebistanr2> sza
[05:44] <pfhortron> is there a ubuntu PPC channel for PowerPC arch
[05:44] <paradizelost> drac|crate:  any results?
[05:45] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, it's on. I should note that I'm riskily running the harddrive and CD-ROM drive on the same cable due to IDE controller problems with this BIOS. Could that also be the cause?
[05:45] <matrix> Can any one please tell me how to connect to VPN
[05:45] <gnomefreak> pfhortron: you found it
[05:45] <paradizelost> could be.
[05:45] <paradizelost> is the hard drive dma turned on?
[05:45] <Drac|Crate> Lemme check.
[05:46] <stendhal> tristanmike,  thanks a lot this is a good gamr
[05:46] <stendhal> game*
[05:46] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, yes, both drives have DMA turned on.
[05:46] <tristanmike> stendhal, I believe it's based off of war/starcraft
[05:46] <paradizelost> k.  did you say the audio was choppy?
[05:46] <Drak|Away> Okay, I'm back.
[05:46] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, is it just me, or has a lot of ppc users been looking for thier own channel lately?
[05:46] <paradizelost> is the disk scratched?
[05:46] <tristanmike> Drak|Away, how are things going
[05:46] <Protocol1> can someone help me get support for my Intel 82852 / 855GM/GE graphics?
[05:46] <paradizelost> brb
[05:46] <stendhal> tristanmike,  do you know others games ?
[05:47] <Drak|Away> my mom's laptop says that the CD has something on it, but when I tried to browse it, there was nothing in the explorer window.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I think I just did something dumb, and need help recovering.  (I'm on my roommate's computer at the moment.)
[05:47] <Protocol1> proper drivers installed that is
[05:47] <pfhortron> I want pcsx in ppc ubuntu it should be in the package manager
[05:47] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: they have
[05:47] <tristanmike> stendhal,  http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=strategy+games&btnG=Search
[05:47] <lamp_> Can i work witch ubuntu dapper right now, i run debian unstable at the moment so i'm used to some things :p
[05:47] <pfhortron> ubuntu runs better than Macosx
[05:47] <tristanmike> stendhal, browse till your hearts content
[05:47] <matrix> Can any one tell me how to connect to VPN
[05:48] <gnomefreak> lamp_: debian unstable is differetn that pre beta
[05:48] <gnomefreak> s/that/than
[05:48] <stendhal> tristanmike,  stratagus is not fullscreen
[05:48] <lamp_> gnomefreak: but does it work?  without many error or something
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> I turned off my backlight by mimicking the line I found in the suspend script, I think it was 'sudo vbetool dpms off'.  So then, to turn it back on, I tried to reverse it by hitting the up arrow, backspace three times, then on (effectively 'sudo vbetool dpms on'), then my password.  Now the screen is cycling through colors and I can't do anything.  Please help!
[05:49] <tristanmike> stendhal, hmm, never played it, so I'm not sure of the settings
[05:49] <fromvega> Hello
[05:49] <tristanmike> stendhal, i just installed though.... :)
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lamp_: it runs here but there are a few things that need to be done and the fact that what works today maynot work later or tomorrow
[05:49] <paradizelost> back
[05:50] <gnomefreak> lamp_: feel free to use it but you have been warned it may break
[05:50] <lamp_> gnomefreak: okey thanks i will run it as thirth os :p
[05:50] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, yes, the audio is choppy. In Sound Juicer, it goes silent for around ten seconds at random.
[05:50] <tristanmike> stendhal, try running the stratagus command with "--help" to see if you can make full screen, you may need to compile it, I don't know for sure
[05:51] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, basically, it plays little bits of it at a time, as though it can't read the CD consistantly.
[05:51] <fromvega> I want to setup a webserver with Ubuntu, could you indicate some site about it? What do I need to setup, how to configure new websites, how do configure DNS information and how to secure against network attacks. Thank you!
[05:51] <nickrud> lamp_, it's feels pretty close to unstable at one of unstable's weaker times
[05:51] <stendhal> tristanmike,  ok
[05:51] <paradizelost> is the disc scratched?
[05:51] <paradizelost> try it in xmms
[05:52] <lamp_> nickrud: :p
[05:52] <tristanmike> Drakonik, there are strange happenings over there...
[05:52] <Drakonik> Yeah, I agree.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> brb while 5th .deb is downloading :) ill let you knwo how it works out nickrud
[05:53] <Drac|Crate> lamp_, I run Ubuntu Dapper on several systems. Flight 4 runs nicely. It's the final package inclusion, so you can just keep upgrading things until you one day have the final builds for the official release. I haven't had any problems with the latest stuff, so I recommend you give it a try.
[05:53] <pfhortron> I can't find the mesa dev libraries in the package manager?
[05:53] <tristanmike> Drakonik, how large does your mom's lappy say it is
[05:53] <Drakonik> Although knowing me, I'm probably missing some simple yet minute detail.
[05:53] <Drakonik> 270 meg.
[05:53] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, the XMMS CD plugin won't work for me... it plays silently.
[05:53] <realPIMP> hello
[05:53] <realPIMP> :D
[05:53] <realPIMP> is here someone who likes Fantasy games?????
[05:53] <lafferpt> where is the apache configuration file location?
[05:53] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I gotta go, se you later
[05:53] <psusi> lafferpt: /etc/apache?
[05:54] <pfhortron> is there any way to get opengl in ubuntu Yabause ask's for it
[05:54] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, that is, of course, when I try to play a CDA file from the disc. I don't know any other way to use the plugin.
[05:54] <lafferpt> psusi,  conf.d
[05:54] <lafferpt> ?
[05:54] <julian9932383> i know this might be a noob question but how do you become the root user in ubuntu
[05:54] <psusi> lafferpt: huh?
[05:54] <paradizelost> make sure you are using ther right sound output in xmms
[05:54] <paradizelost> probably need to change it to alsa
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell julian9932383 about root
[05:54] <lafferpt> psusi, is it called conf.d?
[05:54] <gsnedders> is there any proper way to install Ubuntu on PPC in 64-bit mode?
[05:55] <pfhortron> I get no sound in VBA
[05:55] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, can you help me get my XMMS CD plugin working?
[05:55] <psusi> lafferpt: I'm using apache2 and it's master config file is in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, and several sub config files are in the /etc/apache2/conf.d directory
[05:55] <pfhortron> I think vba runs better in linux than Mac OS X
[05:55] <lafferpt> psusi, ha ok
[05:55] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, sorry, didn't see your text. Please use my name so I can see the highlight.
[05:55] <lafferpt> tks
[05:55] <stendhal> tristanmike,  do you know bos ?
[05:56] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, no, it's ALSA. I'm sure. Also, mp3s and such play fine. This is only CD-Related.
[05:56] <paradizelost> drac|crate:  have you tried using CD Player under the sound and video menu?
[05:56] <pfhortron> my logitech mouse some times stops in ubuntu from time to time
[05:56] <erg0t_> hi
[05:57] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, No, lemme give that a shot.
[05:57] <erg0t_> dont know if this is the proper channel but... im new to the gimp, and as incredible as it may sound, i dont see any "save" button
[05:57] <erg0t_> :/
[05:57] <erg0t_> how do i save my images?
[05:57] <Drakonik> Ctrl-s?
[05:57] <pfhortron> does anyone know what program can create iso from cd's
[05:57] <Antiquitus> erg0t_:  right click on the image ;)
[05:58] <paradizelost> pfhortron:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/name.iso
[05:58] <erg0t_> well i'll be damned
[05:58] <erg0t_> thanks Antiquitus
[05:58] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, it seems to be missing from the menu. It's probably installed regardless, but didn't show up due to lack of sound hardware initially. What's the command?
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I think I just did something dumb, and need help recovering.  (I'm on my roommate's computer at the moment.)
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> I turned off my backlight by mimicking the line I found in the suspend script, I think it was 'sudo vbetool dpms off'.  So then, to turn it back on, I tried to reverse it by hitting the up arrow, backspace three times, then on (effectively 'sudo vbetool dpms on'), then my password.  Now the screen is cycling through colors and I can't do anything.  Please help!
[05:58] <paradizelost> drac|crate: i'll probably be shot for this, but you could possibly try using .... automatix
[05:59] <Antiquitus> erg0t_: the gimp can be a little cryptic at times, but once you get to know it, its an awesome tool :)
[05:59] <tristanmike> stendhal, sorry afk, i've heard of it
[05:59] <pfhortron> I know that command , sometimes I get read errors
[05:59] <kigh_> hi
[05:59] <pfhortron> mouse stoped again
[05:59] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, I'm concerned and intrigued. What is automatix?
[05:59] <erg0t_> Antiquitus, so it seems
[05:59] <tristanmike> Drakonik, the cd shouldn't be that small
[05:59] <erg0t_> Antiquitus, thanks for the help :)
[05:59] <tristanmike> !automatix
[05:59] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:59] <kigh_> someone know how to disable execshield in dapper? is this bound to the kernel, so do i have to replace it?
[05:59] <stendhal> tristanmike,  i didn't find where it is on my computer
[06:00] <stendhal> in terminal i type bos
[06:00] <tristanmike> Drakonik, it may just be that the software is too old to handle such a new iso, I'm not absolutely sure, but that file size is incorrect
[06:00] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, thankfully, that's not installed. I don't think I'll do that. What else would you suggest? I think the both-on-one-drive thing might be the actual cause, here...
[06:00] <Drakonik> Well, I'll look for some open-source burning utility on Sourceforge and try it.
[06:01] <Antiquitus> erg0t_: sure. :)
[06:01] <Drakonik> If I manage to find another CD to burn.
[06:01] <paradizelost> drac|crate, i'd try using separate controllers then
[06:01] <tristanmike> stendhal, it's stratagus releated, a new mission
[06:01] <pfhortron> xcdroast can create ISOs
[06:01] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, I'm afraid I'll need to wait until I get my IDE controller card, then. This old Compaq has a retarded BIOS. :\
[06:01] <paradizelost> drac|crate: if you have a pci add-in card, it won't work with just a cdrom on, it usually requires a hard drive on the channel
[06:02] <paradizelost> but you could put the hard drive on the controller and the cdrom on the onboard
[06:02] <stendhal> tristanmike,  do you speak french, i don't understand you ...
[06:02] <pfhortron> How do create a disk imahe from disk with two volumes on it
[06:02] <Drac|Crate> Oh no! I only have two IDE slots, and they're both filled! Damn... I need to find a way around this controller problem.
[06:02] <ryanakca> is 5gb big enough for swap?
[06:02] <Ng> easily
[06:02] <tristanmike> stendhal, no, not in any great ammount
[06:02] <paradizelost> drac|crate how many hard drives do you ahve in the system?
[06:02] <tristanmike> stendhal, "bos" is a new map/level for Stratagus
[06:02] <dyrne> ryanakca: way more than you need prob
[06:02] <Ng> ryanakca: 2*ram is a useful guideline for how much swap to allow, unless you have a tiny or huge amount of ram
[06:03] <ryanakca> aye... I have 384mb ram
[06:03] <wickers> ryanakca, 512 megs of swap sould do
[06:03] <ryanakca> aye
[06:03] <ryanakca> ty
[06:03] <slew> hi. im running nautilus and trying to change the properties of an .mpg. when i right click the icon and go to Properties, nautilus crashes. is there any way to fix that?
[06:03] <stendhal> tristanmike,
[06:03] <stendhal> ok
[06:03] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, hopefully you just noticed my message of dismay. Regardless of that, it is unlikely that this computer's BIOS would properly support booting from the card...
[06:03] <sinaduel> hello, on k3b when I want to erase a DVD RW do I use quick format? I remember that quick format only erases the TOC or something like that
[06:04] <gnomefreak> brb gonna try this
[06:04] <pfhortron> I have a GB of ram
[06:04] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost, What is DMA? Should I try disabling it for the harddrive?
[06:04] <wickers> Drac[Server] , no.. it's Direct memory access... and you want it on.
[06:04] <pfhortron> Direct memory access DMA
[06:04] <Drac|Crate> wickers, alright.
[06:05] <paradizelost> drac|crate:  no, you want dma on, makes things go much faster.   i.e. while watching a dvd-movie it would be jerky without it on
[06:05] <pfhortron> emulator refer it alot
[06:05] <pfhortron> emulators
[06:05] <Drac|Crate> wickers, what would be the consequences of disabling it for the harddrive, though?
[06:05] <dyrne> slew: i hate nautilus.. prefer xubuntu's simple file manager or konq to that
[06:05] <wickers> slower drive speeds
[06:05] <Drak|Hunting> I can burn data to a DVD+R, right?
[06:05] <Drac|Crate> Hmm..
[06:05] <xerox_> Hello.
[06:05] <paradizelost> drac|crate: your hard drive would run like crap
[06:05] <wickers> Drac|Crate, basically you'd put extra load on your CPU to do the same tasks... which makes things slower.
[06:05] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: understood.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Why did I have to break something at this time of day?  If it was eight hours from now there would be someone that knew what my stupidity did...
[06:05] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, only if your burner supports it
[06:05] <Drak|Hunting> Hm.
[06:06] <Drak|Hunting> You mean the hardware or the software?
[06:06] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, um, usually just the hardware
[06:07] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: you seem to neglect tab completion. Is this voluntary, or have you just forgotten about it? (friendly suggestion)
[06:07] <Drak|Hunting> Crap.
[06:07] <fromvega> I want to setup a webserver with Ubuntu, could you indicate some site about it? What do I need to setup, how to configure new websites, how do configure DNS information and how to secure against network attacks. Thank you!
[06:07] <vars> how do i import firefox settings
[06:07] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, it should say on the front of your dvd burner something like DVD +/-
[06:07] <paradizelost> ahh.  didn't know about it...
[06:07] <paradizelost> :D
[06:07] <paradizelost> thanks
[06:07] <sinaduel> How do I burn AVI's onto DVD's so the work on DVD players?
[06:08] <Drak|Hunting> Crapola.
[06:08] <Drak|Hunting> It only says CD-writer
[06:08] <vars> wait how do i get the bookmarks?
[06:08] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, and you're trying to burn a dvd?
[06:08] <foampeace> Sub-process bzip2 received a segmentation fault.
[06:08] <Drak|Hunting> It's the only blank disk I could find.
[06:08] <Drac|Crate> vars: Rename the new file folder to something else in .mozilla/firefox/profiles, then move your old config file into the directory and rename it to the original new profile's name. Alternatively, edit the config file in the same directory to point to your old config.
[06:09] <foampeace>  Possible causes are (most likely first):
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[06:09] <foampeace>    (1) The compressed data is corrupted, and bzip2's usual checks
[06:09] <foampeace>        failed to detect this.  Try bzip2 -tvv my_file.bz2.
[06:09] <LuisBG> any ubuntu in powerbook user?
[06:09] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, lol, well that's your problem right there. First, you can't read/write dvd's in any "cdrom/writer", second, unless you downloaded a dvd iso, you have to burn the iso to a cd
[06:09] <foampeace> im like now what
[06:09] <Drac|Crate> vars: Sorry, I mean move your old config FOLDER into .mozilla/firefox.
[06:09] <Drak|Hunting> Grrr...
[06:10] <Drac|Crate> vars: Gah! I mean .mozilla/firefox/profiles! Move it to there. Yes.
[06:10] <labanux> does any one can give me suggestion what kind of IDE that i can user to build GUI app on Ubuntu?
[06:10] <Drak|Hunting> GRAH!
[06:10] <Drak|Hunting> Why does the universe conspire against me?
[06:10] <tristanmike> Drak|Hunting, yeah, that's pretty frustrating
[06:10] <Drak|Hunting> Ah well.
[06:10] <Drak|Hunting> I'll look for some CDs.
[06:10] <Drac|Crate> vars: Sorry about the confusion. I hope you got the right message. >_>
[06:10] <labanux> does any one can give me suggestion what kind of IDE that i can user to build GUI app on Ubuntu?
[06:10] <LuisBG> I apt-get installed linux-image headers and modules and after I rebooted it crashes at load, and seams like the old kernel doesn't work anymore too :(
[06:11] <foampeace> Drac|Crate: because you believe it to be true. negative anticipation. the opposite of faith
[06:11] <LuisBG> labanux, there is an ide to make gtk guis
[06:11] <Drac|Crate> LuisBG: That's very odd. Have you tried booting in "recovery mode" via the list when pressing Esc when GRUB first starts?
[06:11] <labanux> LuisBG, gtk guis?? what is that?
[06:11] <LuisBG> Drac[Server] , not using grub but yaboot, it's in a mac
[06:12] <Drac|Crate> foampeace: Pay closer attention to your tab completion. :P
[06:12] <LuisBG> labanux, know gtk?
[06:12] <djk_> anyone familiar with latex?
[06:12] <labanux> LuisBG, Glade?? is this what you mean?
[06:12] <kigh_> what is (not does) this "execshield" stuff in dapper drake? is it compiled into the kernel? a module? userspace stuff? what is it? or: (this is what i want) how do i disable it?
[06:12] <LuisBG> labanux, exactly
[06:12] <paradizelost> well, i got my vnc issue resolved...
[06:12] <foampeace> Drac|Crate: ya heheeh
[06:12] <foampeace> im an ass
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a problem trying to upgrade my sources.list, the message said.. : W: Coulnd't stat sorce package list http://package.freecontrb.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ packages.freecontrb.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 no such file or directory)  what should I do?
[06:12] <paradizelost> needed to install just "vncserver" instead of vnc4server or tightvncserver
[06:12] <LuisBG> how stable is drapper's flight 4 and what does drapper drake mean?
[06:12] <pinkisntwell> who thinks ubuntu's web fonts look ugly?
[06:13] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, comment that line out
[06:13] <paradizelost> Inf3ctedFx: please use pastebin
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> ok. sorry for the flood
[06:13] <kigh_> LuisBG: for me its very stable .. had no issue until now
[06:13] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: congrats. Say, if the BIOS doesn't see the secondary controller port because of BIOS retardedness, does that mean that Linux won't, or will Linux be able to take over control of the board and properly utilize all hardware without BIOS interference?
[06:13] <eXistenZ> why not all the installed packages appear in the menu?
[06:13] <LuisBG> kigh_, downloading it because I have to reinstall anyway
[06:13] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, can you say "non-offical repo"
[06:14] <cvtboudreaux> I have a question, would it be possible to shrink my ntfs partition with XP on it (so i can put linux on my laptop) and whats the best tool for this?
[06:14] <kigh_> paradizelost: pastebin for one line? :D
[06:14] <labanux> i want to make a gui app, that can easily install on another linux os..
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> what u mean with that tristanmike
[06:14] <LuisBG> does really apt-get install nvidia-glx install the nvidia driver with 3d acceleration? come from ati, sounds too easy ;)
[06:14] <kigh_> LuisBG: then try drake
[06:14] <labanux> but i still can't find any good s/w
[06:14] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, I mean it can give you a whole slew of trouble
[06:14] <kigh_> LuisBG: yes it did. :D
[06:14] <LuisBG> cvtboudreaux, partition magic but it's danger gander
[06:15] <LuisBG> kigh_, can you promise?
[06:15] <Inf3ctedFx> but why I getting that message? tristanmike ?
[06:15] <GnaLeo> sorry about that .. damn unstable wireless
[06:15] <pinkisntwell> cvtboudreaux: I did that using ntfsresize and fdisk, booting from the livecd
[06:15] <labanux> using glade means using GTk, and gtk is too difficult for me
[06:15] <paradizelost> Drac|Crate: sometimes, it can override the bios
[06:15] <paradizelost> kigh_: i can get a one-liner to fill the screen...
[06:15] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, their server may be down, may have changed, the file may be removed
[06:15] <kigh_> LuisBG: hm. i do not promise anything, but on this machine, yesterday, apt-get install nvidia-glx && /etc/init.d/gdm restart was anything i had to do
[06:15] <paradizelost> :D
[06:15] <willmc> hi guys, anyone know how to have synaptic automatically expand the 'Terminal' view when applying updates?
[06:15] <prower> Hello everyone :> I'm a long-time user of Ubuntu, but I'm a bit concerned about the addition of click-n-run coming in...will that mean that in the future certain packages will only be available for a fee?
[06:16] <LuisBG> anybody knows if the airport driver comes native in drapper? it is meant to be one of the upgrades from breezy
[06:16] <cvtboudreaux> i was looking at partition magic, laptop came with everything preinstalled (as usual) and id hate to have to reinstall everything
[06:16] <kigh_> paradizelost: maybe, but not using the IRC protocol.
[06:16] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, you should check out "easyubuntu", it uses the plf repos, but is much safer
[06:16] <LuisBG> kigh_, hope it's that easy with me
[06:16] <gnomefreak> prower: click and run has nothing to do with the gpl
[06:16] <kigh_> :D
[06:16] <gnomefreak> or the cost
[06:16] <LuisBG> anybody uses ubuntu in powerbook/ibook to ask about some performance questions?
[06:16] <davidX-> whats a decent gui icq client thats in ubuntu's packagel ist/
[06:16] <prower> gnomefreak: Ahh, I see
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> I have easyubuntu..
[06:16] <davidX-> err list :D
[06:16] <LuisBG> is there a cputemp app for ppc?
[06:17] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, oh, is that what's causing the error?
[06:17] <gnomefreak> davidX-: xchat for a gui irc app
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> prower: No.  It's not CNR like the other you're thinking of; the functionality is achieved through a tool called gdebi that's just a front-end type thing to dpkg and dependencies.
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> I already run it.. but now.. should I check easyubuntu often tristanmike ?
[06:17] <willmc> davidX- GAIM
[06:17] <davidX-> licq seems to fail on dependancies
[06:17] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, sure, you can even see what's going on in #easyubuntu
[06:17] <davidX-> willmc: ahh didn't know gaim supported icq now i haven't used linux as a desktop in years :D
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> noo, the error is causing becuase I was trying to add some programs and the sinaptic pops up showingme there is some availabel updates..
[06:17] <zach> Hey all, I got a quesiton for ya... I have been messing with stuff and I can't figure out how to disable tap clicking on my Dell Inspiron 6000's Touchpad
[06:17] <Drac|Crate> cvtboudreaux: I think gparted can do this. gparted is available on the LiveCD and is very good at resizing partitions. Just be sure to defrag your zany NTFS partition so that the files aren't scattered everywhere, making the parititon appear a lot fuller than it is.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> davidX-: yes it has a plug in for it iirc
[06:17] <zach> Does anyone know of a way?
[06:18] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, if you use easyubuntu, then I'd say you would no longer really need the plf line in your source.list
[06:18] <prower> tonyyarusso: Ahh, I see...so it won't interfere with synaptic/apt-get
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> I was trying to make that updates and I get that message
[06:18] <willmc> davidX- it sure does :) !!
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> prower: Nope.
[06:18] <Drak|Hunting> Gah. I give up. I'll try it again tomorrow, once my brain has recovered.
[06:18] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, that's why having unoffical repos can break systems
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks tristanmike  one thing i'm pretty new with easy ubuntu.. how can I use it???
[06:18] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, if you don't mind me asking, what's the program you want
[06:18] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: For this "BIOS Override" do I need any kind of special boot commands or some such? The BIOS is so weird on this machine that it probably doesn't even try to use it...
[06:18] <davidX-> willmc: awesome thanks!
[06:18] <willmc> davidX- my icq number is in the earlky 9 million!!
[06:19] <willmc> joined ages ago!!
[06:19] <gnomefreak> nickrud: if your here it works :)
[06:19] <uri> hello all! keep up the good work ubuntu team!
[06:19] <zach> I hate touchpads tap ability... Has anyone been able to get it disabled?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> brb
[06:19] <paradizelost> possibly, but w/o knowing the system intimately, i don't think i could really help you do it.
[06:19] <foampeace> did someone abuse exploits?
[06:19] <willmc> so does anyone know how to have synaptic automatically expand the 'Terminal' view when applying updates?
[06:19] <paradizelost> Drac|Crate: possibly, but w/o knowing the system intimately, i don't think i could really help you do it.
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> I went to APlications/Add Aplications.. and I'm trying to get programs like gnome backer. NU, Best, etc etc etc  tristanmike
[06:20] <huuhuhu> Alguem do BRASIL AI????
[06:20] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: What sort of stuff do you need to know about it? I'll be happy to tell any needed details. :)
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> huuhuhu: n parla portugues...
[06:20] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, ok, comment out that line and sudo apt-get update
[06:20] <LuisBG> is there a cputemp app for ppc?
[06:20] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: That is, I'll be happy to tell as much as I actually know about it. I don't know what chipset it uses for IDE and such...
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> oks tristanmike  thx
[06:20] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, you don't have any other unoffical repos in there do you?
[06:20] <kenzoix> hi all.....help me, I can't install libc6-dev package
[06:20] <uri> I just got a quick question. How do I reconfigure the x server from the command line? (I swapped my HD into an older laptop. And I would like to choose the "framebuffering" option, if my memory serves me correctly, in order to get the gdm to work)
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> I have no clue.. how can I find out?? tristanmike ?
[06:21] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, like debian ones
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> checking on my sources.list?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> !br
[06:21] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:21] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, you can paste your sources.list on pastebin and I'll have a look
[06:21] <kenzoix> It says that package linux-kernel is not installed
[06:21] <sinaduel> Helo, I am inquiring about how to burn AVI's so they are readable on DVD players
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me show u give me the address to paste
[06:21] <paradizelost> Drac|Crate: I'd almost have to be in front of it...
[06:22] <kenzoix> but I've installed the linux-kernel-headers package, and it's seems it was installed correctly
[06:22] <tristanmike> !tell Inf3ctedFx about pastebin
[06:22] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, check your pm
[06:22] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: Ah... Well... It might interest you to know that I built it into a milk crate. XP
[06:22] <Celestianpower> Can someone help me with Synaptic please?
[06:22] <paradizelost> uri: if iirc, framebuffer is console.  but you can use xorgconfig to change it
[06:22] <chmod775> yes sure
[06:22] <tristanmike> !helpme
[06:22] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:22] <paradizelost> uri: the X config file that is
[06:23] <eXistenZ> any good multimedia repos. for downloading w32codecs and such?
[06:23] <chmod775> yup !helpme
[06:23] <chmod775> lol
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> tristanmike:  here u go..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9964
[06:23] <chmod775> !w32codec
[06:23] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:23] <sinaduel> Hello, I am inquiring about how to burn AVI's so they are readable on DVD players
[06:23] <kenzoix> hey, no one can help me?
[06:23] <chmod775> tell eXistenZ about w32codecs
[06:24] <paradizelost> sinaduel: you would need to transcode them to an mpeg format and use a dvd authoring program
[06:24] <kenzoix> !msg alsa-source
[06:24] <ubotu> kenzoix: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:24] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: It's an old Compaq, some kind of weird three-plug AT machine. The BIOS has limited options. There is a single 16x CD-ROM drive and a 20GB Maxtor harddrive. There is around 196MB RAM, a mixture of PC66 and PC100. Both IDE drives are on a single cable in the primary controller port. The CD-Rom is the slave drive.
[06:24] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, yeah, comment out the wine/opera lines, leave soulmachine commented
[06:24] <sinaduel> paradizelost: Such as qdvdauthor?
[06:24] <Inf3ctedFx> let me c
[06:25] <paradizelost> sinaduel: don't know for sure, i don't do that on a linux box.
[06:25] <uri> paradizelost: so xorgconfig will do the trick from the command line? (I have no gdm running on my laptop.)
[06:25] <paradizelost> sinaduel: i just know that avi's can't be directly burned and be playable
[06:25] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, the thing about "non-offical repos" is, they're ok if you trust them but only have them active when you are getting software that is strickly from those, then when you get the stuff, comment them out again, don't leave them active and you should be good to go
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> ok done
[06:25] <paradizelost> uri: xorgconfig will re-setup the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:26] <Inf3ctedFx> oohhh ok tristanmike  can u recomend me a good source.list??
[06:26] <paradizelost> Drac|Crate: i think it's just time to upgrade man... ;)
[06:26] <zach> Hmmm Has anyone here dealt with tapping on a Synaptic Touchpad from a Dell Inspiron 6000?
[06:26] <Inf3ctedFx> or do u know where can I go an get more?
[06:26] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, what you have is ok, stick with that and you'll be fine
[06:26] <GenfooCGI> uggg CGI:IRC is annoying -_-
[06:26] <eXistenZ> what's the address of multiverse repos. ?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eXistenZ about multiverse
[06:26] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, just make sure you leave all unoffical repos commented untill you need them
[06:26] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, brb
[06:26] <Inf3ctedFx> ok tristanmike  thx.. now last question how can I operate easyubuntu?
[06:27] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: This isn't my main system. Trust me. I don't have money for another board, and this one fits the crate PERFECTLY. It's just a pet project, really. My question is simple: Will Ubuntu be able to use the CD-Rom drive if the BIOS doesn't see it?
[06:27] <uri> paradizelost: I have no program installed called xorgconfig
[06:27] <unclewezter> bios must see the device
[06:27] <Drac|Crate> unclewezter: Why is that?
[06:27] <unclewezter> put the cd on its own cable/port
[06:28] <Drac|Crate> unclewezter: Secondary IDE control in the BIOS is broken.
[06:28] <tristanmike> Inf3ctedFx, type "/join #easyubuntu" for all you questions
[06:28] <defrysk> !upgrade
[06:28] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:28] <unclewezter> cd on same as hd will slow the whole mess down considerably
[06:28] <paradizelost> uri: do you have xorg installed?
[06:28] <p0mppu> hi again
[06:28] <paradizelost> uri: or xfree86
[06:28] <Inf3ctedFx> ok thx again tristanmike
[06:28] <paradizelost> Drac|Crate: some can, some cant
[06:28] <Drac|Crate> unclewezter: I noticed, but it's my only option right now. You'd know that if you paid attention.
[06:28] <chmod775> !multiverse
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:29] <p0mppu> has anybody got experience on formatting devices or creating filesystems on them? I have an usb-memory key that claims it's 8MB but it's really 256MB and I'd really like to do something about it..
[06:29] <unclewezter> dullard
[06:29] <unclewezter> dded drac|crate!*@* to ignore list
[06:30] <Drac|Crate> paradizelost: Well, I'll give it a shot. This BIOS was NOT designed to communicate with the OS at all, I'd imagine. I think if Linux can take control of an oversized harddrive after the BIOS boot, it can take control of a CD-ROM drive.
[06:30] <paradizelost> uri: because if you have xfree86, it'll be called xf86config
[06:30] <nickrud> uri, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:30] <uri> paradizelost: I have whatever came with the install CD (breezy).
[06:31] <paradizelost> uri: try what nickrud suggested
[06:31] <Drac|Crate> What is the command for the CD player?
[06:31] <eth0> hi, is it worth reading into the more advanced linux commands, or is it all doable in x?
[06:31] <uri> paradizelost: I have no program called "xf86config" either (sorry for the troubles)
[06:31] <dooglus> when I run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in dapper, chroot'ed to an etch partition, my desktop wallpaper gets replaced with weird pictures.  should I report that against dapper or etch?
[06:32] <Drac|Crate> eth0: It's all doable in X, but all the same, it's good to learn if you ever want to tweak your system to the ultimate configuration.
[06:32] <Sincops> hi all! i'm looking for a way to update my site code without having to download and upload all the files manually. any help would be appriciated :)
[06:32] <lafferpt> i configured the .htaccess in phpmyadmin dir to prompt for a password but now it returns this error: cannot load mysql extension;
[06:32] <lafferpt> please check PHP configuration. what do I do?
[06:32] <eth0> Draconicus: i c, thanks :)
[06:32] <nickrud> dooglus, that is a loaded question :)
[06:32] <cjohnson> I have a Wifi card (a Netgear WG311) which Ubuntu seemingly detected, but it's not picking up any network.  If I do iwlist wlan0 scan, it says no results instantly
[06:32] <eth0> Drac|Crate: i c, thanks :)
[06:32] <dooglus> nickrud: why?
[06:32] <eth0> heh
[06:32] <paradizelost> eth0: i highly recommend becoming familiar with the command line, because what happens when your X isn't working?
[06:33] <Storkme> how can i send files between my lan computers without having to use SCP? (because SCP needs a password at runtime)
[06:33] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, i guess. if it's just for that thought i'll learn it later
[06:33] <paradizelost> Storkme: you could install and configure samba
[06:33] <nickrud> dooglus, probably dapper, because if it's relevant, they'll forward to upstream
[06:33] <eth0> paradizelost: thought/though
[06:33] <paradizelost> eth0: then you'll put it off until you need it, then you'll be fuX0red
[06:33] <HappyFool> Storkme: ssh can use .ssh/authorized_keys and .ssh/id_dsa for automatic authentication
[06:33] <dooglus> nickrud: what do you mean by 'loaded question'?
[06:33] <Storkme> paradizelost, what's samba?
[06:34] <HappyFool> Storkme: although leaving .ssh/id_dsa unencrypted is not recommended
[06:34] <paradizelost> Storkme: usually used for sharing between windows systems
[06:34] <slew> hi. im running nautilus and trying to change the properties of an .mpg. when i right click the icon and go to Properties, nautilus crashes. is there any way to fix that?
[06:34] <uri> nickrud: OK nick, thanks, I'll give it a shot when I get home.
[06:34] <paradizelost> Storkme: think of it as the equivalent filesharing and it doesn't require authentication unless you tell it to.
[06:34] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, i see what ur saying, but it's a lot of work just for that eh
[06:34] <paradizelost> eth0: well, it would be either that or re-install your system...
[06:35] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah that's what i was thinking
[06:35] <paradizelost> eth0: for some reason, i get the feeling your rather new to *nix
[06:35] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, im pretty new, i'd rather get on with learning c for now tho
[06:35] <paradizelost> eth0: because it can be a pain in the @$$ to get everything back the way you had it.
[06:35] <Zjm7891> Is it possible on 2.6 to disable tapping for a touchpad?
[06:35] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, true
[06:36] <willmc> ahh the tapping!
[06:36] <Zjm7891> Yessums its horrible!
[06:36] <paradizelost> eth0: sometimes, you'll need to know command line to get stuff working properly in C, or parsing error logs
[06:36] <DanEagles> Hey guys.  I'm having a major problem with Ubuntu today. lol
[06:36] <Zjm7891> I move my mouse around and it just randomly switches focus!
[06:36] <eth0> paradizelost: oh really, i didn't know that
[06:36] <Drac|Crate> eth0: No problem. A friendly tip, by the way: Try to cut down on the chatspeak usage. It's kind of a self-degrading, if you know what I mean.
[06:36] <eth0> Draconicus: chatspeak?
[06:36] <paradizelost> eth0: the biggies are going to be grep, less, vi, cat
[06:36] <eth0> Drac| chatspeak?
[06:37] <lafferpt> i configured the .htaccess in phpmyadmin dir to prompt for a password but now it returns this error: cannot load mysql extension;
[06:37] <paradizelost> eth0: you can cat /var/log/messages|grep whateveryouarelookingfor
[06:37] <Drac|Crate> eth0: Using "c" and "u" and "y" in place of "see" "you" and "why" :P
[06:37] <eth0> paradizelost: ahh, i c, no i already know the basic commands
[06:37] <Sincops> hi all! i'm looking for a way to update my site code without having to download and upload all the files manually. any help would be appriciated :)
[06:37] <paradizelost> eth0: it's not difficult to learn either.
[06:37] <eth0> drac|: oh ok :)
[06:37] <eth0> bah
[06:37] <DanEagles> Ok, here's the problem.  I attempted to run Ubuntu (Intel x86) on my Compaq Presario V2000 Laptop.  It has an AMD Sempron 32-bit Processor.  Anyways, when the cool little ubuntu-logo comes up after you log in with the user account, it freezes the machine completely...mouse doesn't move and the only way to shut down is a hard reset.  What could be wrong?
[06:38] <Drac|Crate> With ADHD C is nearly impossible to learn. X_x
[06:38] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, i know all the basics, just wondered if it's worth getting to an advanced level
[06:38] <p0mppu> maybe I just have to believe this usb memory stick is really broken..I can't even create partitions on the 8M it says it has "unpartitioned"
[06:38] <eth0> on command-line
[06:38] <paradizelost> eth0: i would recommend learning perl, it's good on both windows and linux, can be used for shell scripting, writing gui's, etc...
[06:38] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: What'd you do to it? :P
[06:38] <eth0> paradizelost: i've got quite a way into c
[06:38] <trappist> ditto for ruby, except ruby's better ;)
[06:38] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: put it in a Windows machine
[06:38] <p0mppu> :)
[06:38] <eth0> paradizelost: well not that far
[06:38] <paradizelost> eth0: and it's easier than C, becasue you have scalars, denoted by $, arrays denoted by @, and hashes.
[06:39] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Oh noes! :P
[06:39] <fateminasab> How can i disappear update icon?
[06:39] <p0mppu> it seems to have destroyed it, and shrank it's size from 256M to 8M
[06:39] <p0mppu> :(
[06:39] <p0mppu> so typical windoze
[06:39] <Drac|Crate> Indeed.
[06:39] <DanEagles> *pokes someone*
[06:39] <eth0> paradizelost: yeah, i know that c isn't the easiest
[06:39] <paradizelost> eth0: you don't have to declare variables to be integer, etc....
[06:39] <Zjm7891> Hey atleast windoze will let me disable tapping on my touchpad!
[06:39] <eth0> paradizelost: i see
[06:39] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: to remove update notifier right click on it and remove from panel
[06:39] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Are you sure you didn't accidentally cram the thing into a firewire port or something?
[06:40] <paradizelost> if you go to my site, http://www.paradizelost.net  i have some scripts there you could reference if you are interested
[06:40] <DanEagles> Ok, here's the problem.  I attempted to run Ubuntu (Intel x86) on my Compaq Presario V2000 Laptop.  It has an AMD Sempron 32-bit Processor.  Anyways, when the cool little ubuntu-logo comes up after you log in with the user account, it freezes the machine completely...mouse doesn't move and the only way to shut down is a hard reset.  What could be wrong?
[06:40] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: no, how could I put an usb stick into a firewire port? :)
[06:40] <eth0> paradizelost: me?
[06:40] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: I dunno... Do you have any magnets in your pockets? XP
[06:40] <paradizelost> eth0: yah
[06:40] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: no I don't :)
[06:40] <p0mppu> this thing sucks
[06:41] <p0mppu> and what I got from google was "it happens"
[06:41] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Did you sit on top of a guitar amp while playing?
[06:41] <paradizelost> http://www.paradizelost.net/plog/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=1
[06:41] <p0mppu> did I what?
[06:41] <p0mppu> :D
[06:41] <paradizelost> is the section you'd want to be in
[06:41] <jmartini> eth0: You might also look at python since its ported to windows and *nix and is a pretty full featured scripting / glue language
[06:41] <Jhair> DanEagles: does that laptop have an ATI graphics card?
[06:42] <fateminasab> When i right click on it there is no "remove from panel"
[06:42] <DanEagles> Jhair: Yes it does.
[06:42] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Just checking every possible scenerio. USB sticks are pretty tough these days, and I don't see how Win2k or higher could screw it up... Win98 with drivers, though...
[06:42] <phil500> could someone help me with this wlan thing? got so far that iwconfig gives me a signal level, but i cant get any acces point.
[06:42] <Jhair> DanEagles: do you use the ATI propietary driver? or the xorg free source driver?
[06:42] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: well that's the situation :D
[06:42] <p0mppu> 98SE
[06:42] <eth0> jmartini: i think imma stick with c for now, might learn python later though
[06:42] <paradizelost> p0mppu: make sure the stick doesn't have a secure partition on it, some of the sticks have a password protected secure area
[06:42] <DanEagles> Jhair: Right now I'm assuming is the propietary driver--I'm running Windows XP Home edition right now--the driver is from a support CD which came with the system.
[06:43] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: are you talking about the lil red circle in top right hand corner of gnome desktop
[06:43] <jmartini> phil500: make sure you're spelling the ssid correctly. I fought with mine for hours before I spotted a typo in the ssid
[06:43] <eth0> paradizelost: are they perl scripts?
[06:43] <paradizelost> eth0: yep
[06:43] <KuDeTa> hey
[06:43] <iGotNoTime> does anyone here have problems with Skype ending the call after just a few seconds?
[06:43] <phil500> thanx i posted a thread here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=809586&postcount=4
[06:43] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: anyway, from Google I found pages telling me it happens on win2k at least too..screwing up usb sticks
[06:43] <KuDeTa> how do i eidt the etc/network/interface file
[06:43] <paradizelost> eth0: some have been made into a .exe for windows with par
[06:43] <KuDeTa> i tried sudo edit <file>
[06:43] <eth0> paradizelost: ok, thanks :)
[06:43] <Zjm7891> KuDeTa: sudo nano <file>
[06:43] <KuDeTa> kk
[06:43] <fateminasab> yes
[06:43] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit :)
[06:43] <paradizelost> eth0: if it's in the MB's then its an exe
[06:43] <Zjm7891> nano =P
[06:43] <rumburack> some suggestion on program to speak via local lan between ubuntu and windoze ?
[06:44] <Storkme> paradizelost, is there like a command line version of samba?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> fateminasab:  give me a min ill go back into gnome
[06:44] <Jhair> DanEagles: I know about issues with ATI cards + propietary drivers + AMD64 systems, but it could be that i386 systems are also affected. Could you try using
[06:44] <Jhair> Option "NoAccel" "true"
[06:44] <eth0> paradizelost: if i learn a secondary language it would probably be c++/perl
[06:44] <Jhair> in your xorg.conf configuration file?
[06:44] <iGotNoTime> rumburack, USB drive :P
[06:44] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Well, 98SE was a little better at handling USB sticks, but not high-capacity ones like that. It's probably Windows' fault... Have you tried mounting it from command line without the help of fstab? "mount /dev/sda1 -t usbfs /media/usb" (mkdir /media/usb/ if it doesn't already exist)
[06:44] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Also try sdb1, sdc1 and soforth.
[06:44] <DanEagles> Jhair: Last time I attempted that, I couldn't get to a runlevel--it froze when I tried.
[06:45] <paradizelost> Storkme: samba is a service.  you would configure it, start the service, then just mount the //ip.ad.dr.ess/share to a location on the system you wanted access to
[06:45] <paradizelost> Storkme: then you would just copy stuff to that location
[06:45] <paradizelost> Storkme: think of it like mapped network drives in windwos
[06:45] <paradizelost> eth0: they are very similar
[06:45] <Jhair> DanEagles: oh well, I ran out of ideas, but it seems to be a problem with the graphic card indeed... those freezes but I could be wrong
[06:45] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: hey it seems to have mounted it :o
[06:45] <p0mppu> but what the heck
[06:45] <DanEagles> Jhair: May I send you a pvt message?
[06:45] <p0mppu> 001  002  003  004  005  devices
[06:45] <p0mppu> is the contents
[06:45] <p0mppu> ?
[06:46] <Zjm7891> Whats the easiest way to kill Ubuntu?
[06:46] <eth0> eth0: c++ and perl?
[06:46] <paradizelost> DanEagles: does it do it if you boot to a livecd?
[06:46] <Zjm7891> Just totally trash it?
[06:46] <Zjm7891> I think I'll just do that then deal with the random clicking
[06:46] <paradizelost> Zjm7891: what do you mean to kill ubuntu?
[06:46] <eth0> paradizelost: c++ and perl?
[06:46] <paradizelost> eth0: yep
[06:46] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Ooh... that's not the right device. I had the same issue with an mp3 player. Try sdb1 and soforth.
[06:46] <chmod775> !plokadots
[06:46] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[06:46] <eth0> paradizelost: oh, didn't know that
[06:46] <paradizelost> Zjm7891: you could just dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda1
[06:46] <iGotNoTime> Zjm7891, by letting me install programs on your box :P
[06:46] <Zjm7891> paradizelost:Well its useless to me I can't use it with the touchpad I have(touchpad goes crazy)
[06:46] <paradizelost> eth0: syntax is very similar
[06:47] <Absorto> Hello! How can I tell wich package conains a certain file? say, /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile
[06:47] <Zjm7891> iGotNoTime: lol That COULD work I guess =P
[06:47] <rumburack> i still cant hear two sources of sound on my ubuntu desktop; i have tried some guide on ubuntuforums.org for alsa, but no result; know anyone good guide ?
[06:47] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: well it should be the right one according to dmesg?
[06:47] <p0mppu> still I get the same contents
[06:47] <iGotNoTime> Zjm7891, I have alot of skills in the area of crashing the system :)
[06:47] <paradizelost> Zjm7891: you could also do an rm -Rf /
[06:48] <paradizelost> Zjm7891: scuse me, sudo rm -Rf /
[06:48] <Zjm7891> paradizelost: Good fix =P
[06:48] <p0mppu> but the size of the mountdirectory is 0
[06:48] <jbroome> OH GOD MY SYSTEM!
[06:48] <Zjm7891> paradizelost: However, do you know of a way to disable tapping on my touchpad?
[06:48] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: are you sure usbfs is the right fs type?
[06:49] <swizzle> Does anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu?
[06:49] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: I dunno about dmesg. I never checked that with mine. Um... And yes, usbfs is definitely the right system type for USB flash memory. It stands for "usb filesystem" - you wouldn't want anything else. :P
[06:49] <Drac|Crate> jbroome: Eh?
[06:50] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: I've used vfat successfully this far?
[06:50] <swizzle> Does anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: if the red light is in corner that means you have updates and i would run the updates
[06:50] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: Oh... well.. vfat is if it's formatted under Windows. I suppose that might work as an alternative. Give it a try.
[06:51] <Jhair> swizzle: sleep ?
[06:51] <Drac|Crate> jbroome: It's never good to flip out over what could very likely be a simple mistake somewhere. :P
[06:51] <swizzle> sleep?
[06:51] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: well it doesn't contain a readable fat filesystem so I cannot use vfat..but should usbfs work too?
[06:51] <paradizelost> Zjm7891: nope.  i usually leave it on.
[06:51] <Jhair> swizzle: you can use sleep as counter
[06:51] <foampeace> will we see the latest blender and yafray in the next release which is when
[06:52] <swizzle> Jhair: can it do long range dates, like countdown to june 17
[06:52] <cjuner> Hi there... I'd like to keep my home directory under version control. Any tips? For example which version control system to use? I have some expierence with Subversion and like it for source code management but on the downside - it's simply not made for large files and BerkelyDB (it's backend) is known for easily allowing corruption (at least I heard so). Any ideas?
[06:52] <fateminasab> but how i can disappear that?
[06:52] <lafferpt> I can't remove phpmyadmin
[06:52] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: We're talking about two completely different filesystems, here. If it's not one, it's the other, so it must be usbfs. I'd try vfat for every special device (sd*), first, though. Try sda1, then sdb1, and soforth. Also try sda2 and such with usbfs, though it's unlikely that the device has two partitions..
[06:52] <lafferpt> it returns an error!
[06:52] <gnomefreak> foampeace: next release is april 20th and packages.ubuntu.com can tell you what version of blender will be in it
[06:52] <fateminasab> without updating
[06:52] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: if you do the updates it will go away
[06:53] <gnomefreak> ohhhhh
[06:53] <Storkme> paradizelost, i have no idea what mounted network drives in windows are :| but, is there any way to xfer files without having to run a new process?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: when you right click on it it should have a remove from panle choice
[06:53] <paradizelost> without SCP, or using the GUI and browsing to a samba share, no
[06:53] <foampeace> gnomefreak: next month...is it dapper?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> panel even
[06:53] <gnomefreak> foampeace: yes
[06:54] <foampeace> cool
[06:54] <foampeace> gnomefreak: is there a prerelease?
[06:54] <swizzle> Does anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu that displays the time on the GNOME Panel??
[06:54] <nickrud> !flight
[06:54] <ubotu> nickrud: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:54] <gnomefreak> foampeace: right now its in last flight until beta at the end of this month
[06:54] <fateminasab> all the other icons have but not this one
[06:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: it worked you will have fun with it
[06:55] <p0mppu> Drac|Crate: nope, no luck :/ I wonder how Windows can destroy that memory stick that completely
[06:55] <Drac|Crate> What is the actual command for the GNOME CD player?
[06:55] <nickrud> gnomefreak, e17? great!
[06:55] <paradizelost> p0mppu: what type of usb stick is it/
[06:55] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: im not sure people have done it
[06:55] <Drac|Crate> p0mppu: It really seems unlikely that Windows murdered it. I think paradizelost knows more about it than I do at this point, though.
[06:55] <p0mppu> paradizelost: a normal 256MB usb flash memory stick?
[06:55] <nickrud> ubotu flight is for info on the dapper flight prereleases, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTeam?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dapperflight&titlesearch=Titles
[06:56] <ubotu> nickrud: okay
[06:56] <gnomefreak> nickrud: after you download enlightenment-data nd enlightenment (they may not install do to conflic with eachother  just run sudo apt-get -f install and it will set up both of them :)
[06:56] <devlin> One quick question... How difficult is it to setup Ubuntu in a dualboot w/ XP? its currently running on its own system but I want to run it dualboot on my main system.....
[06:56] <paradizelost> p0mppu: there's no such thing as "normal".  lots of them support secure partitions
[06:56] <nickrud> gnomefreak, thanks
[06:56] <gnomefreak> !flight4
[06:56] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[06:56] <Absorto> If one wants to find out which package contains a certain file, one way to go about it is:  dpkg -S yourfile :D
[06:56] <p0mppu> paradizelost: I don't think this one does :) it was a cheap one
[06:56] <paradizelost> p0mppu: for example, Lexar Jump Drive Secure
[06:56] <paradizelost> p0mppu: or LG drives
[06:56] <swizzle> Does anyone know where I can find a countdown timer for ubuntu that displays the time on the GNOME Panel??
[06:56] <paradizelost> try doing a cfdisk /dev/sd## and see how many partitions are on it
[06:57] <gnomefreak> swizzle: synaptic
[06:57] <paradizelost> p0mppu: try doing a cfdisk /dev/sd## and see how many partitions are on it
[06:57] <swizzle> i looked there, but i couldn't find anything that matched
[06:57] <gnomefreak> search for timers or something like that
[06:57] <paradizelost> devlin: just install ubuntu into free space on the drive, and ubuntu will do the rest.
[06:57] <swizzle> i seached in name and description
[06:57] <fateminasab> when i right click there is only "show updates", "install all updates", "package manager" , " update package list now"
[06:57] <paradizelost> devlin: you just need to make sure you have some unpartitioned space
[06:58] <Drac|Crate> devlin: If Windows XP isn't on there now and you want to have a dual boot, you either need a second harddrive or you need to completely reformat with Windows, and then resize the Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu. There is a third, more complicated option that I've thought of, but these are the two standard procedures.
[06:58] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: is there a reason you dont want to run the updates?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> nickrud: without updating how do you remove the red icon?
[06:58] <nickrud> gnomefreak, phone (sorta at work)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:59] <p0mppu> paradizelost: gives me a big error :)
[06:59] <fateminasab> I had a 56K dial up internet
[06:59] <paradizelost> p0mppu: what kind of error?
[06:59] <linux06> hello...
[06:59] <p0mppu> oh no
[06:59] <Celestianpower> Hi, can anyone help me with Synaptic?
[06:59] <p0mppu> sorry
[06:59] <nickrud> telemarketer
[06:59] <nickrud> swizzle, timer-applet
[06:59] <p0mppu> paradizelost: "Unknown partition table."
[07:00] <bina> how do you turn off this autoload thing in KDE?
[07:00] <p0mppu> then asks if I want to start with an empty one
[07:00] <paradizelost> p0mppu: if you boot to windows, can you see all of the data on the drive?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: what is wrong with it
[07:00] <bina> because its going a bit crazy for me
[07:00] <soundray> !helpme
[07:00] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:00] <p0mppu> paradizelost: nope, on Windows it shows the disk is full, but contains no data
[07:00] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Well, it comes up with lots of errors every time I load it
[07:00] <devlin> paradizelost: ack.. since it was a WinXp system from the get go of course the whole HD was set for XP. Does Ubuntu install have a non-destructive repartition option as did *cough* Mandrake did?
[07:00] <linux06> dhdhgdh
[07:00] <nickrud> gnomefreak, remove update-notifier
[07:00] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, what kinds of errors ?
[07:01] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: I pastebind it
[07:01] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[07:01] <Celestianpower> I'll find it
[07:01] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[07:01] <soundray> devlin: yes, it does
[07:01] <gnomefreak> fateminasab: in terminal type remove update-notifier
[07:01] <paradizelost> devlin: you'd be better off using something like partition magic
[07:01] <linux06> ffjgfj
[07:01] <paradizelost> p0mppu: then it looks like everything is gone from it, you could just reformat it completely
[07:01] <devlin> Thanks soundray :) Looks like Ubuntu will be on the good puter w/ in the hour!
[07:01] <soundray> paradizelost: no, the Ubuntu installer is more reliable than Partition Magic for this particular task.
[07:02] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: if i had to guess they are repo errors
[07:02] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, where's the link....?
[07:02] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Just finding it
[07:02] <p0mppu> paradizelost: ok..so a simple question: how do I do it? :) I'd need to format it to be 256M, not the 8M it shows up as now
[07:02] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, yeah, good guess for sure
[07:02] <soundray> And Partition Magic is closed source anyway
[07:02] <paradizelost> p0mppu: if you dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd##  you can write zero's to the drive, then try running cfdisk
[07:02] <mikelo> anybody know how to configure intel graphics cards?
[07:02] <devlin> bbl
[07:02] <nickrud> gnomefreak, doh fateminasab sudo aptitude remove update-notifer :)
[07:02] <paradizelost> p0mppu: it sounds like the parition table got screwed.  writing zero's should help
[07:03] <eXistenZ> I installed eboard but it doesn't appear in the games section, why is this?
[07:03] <p0mppu> paradizelost: it seems it stops writing zero's after the 8M?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> nickrud: close enough
[07:03] <paradizelost> p0mppu: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd#
[07:03] <lamp_> in found on the ubuntu site that flight 5 is released but i can't donwload it.
[07:03] <paradizelost> don't put the partition number after
[07:03] <paradizelost> p0mppu: don't put the partitin number afeter
[07:03] <Protocol1> can someone help me get an onboard intel graphics card work properly with opengl?
[07:04] <nickrud> eXistenZ, eboard doesn't have a proper destop definition, so it doesn't go into the menu. You can add it manually with Apps->System Tools->Menu Editor
[07:04] <Protocol1> right now it runs really choppy
[07:04] <p0mppu> paradizelost: I did that (without any partition numbers)..it tells me there's no space left on the drive (though there really should be 256-8 MB)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: how long ago did you paste it
[07:04] <paradizelost> p0mppu: that means that it went until the end.
[07:04] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yesterday, asd Celestianpower
[07:04] <netllama> hi
[07:05] <paradizelost> try doing a cfdisk now, and if it asks you if you want to do a new partition table, say yes
[07:05] <p0mppu> paradizelost: yeah but it also tells it only wrote 8MB of data
[07:05] <p0mppu> instead of the 256
[07:05] <fateminasab> gnomefreak and nickrud : Thank's a lot. It worked
[07:05] <paradizelost> p0mppu: do you want this readable in windows?
[07:05] <paradizelost> p0mppu: you may want to call the manufacturer and get a replacement...
[07:05] <paradizelost> p0mppu: if it's still under warranty
[07:05] <netllama> anyone here know much about how the installer works?
[07:06] <nickrud> fateminasab, be aware, that probably removed ubuntu-desktop ; you'll want that re-installed before you upgrade to dapper in april
[07:06] <fateminasab> Thanks a lot. It worked
[07:06] <paradizelost> netllama: are you talking about apt, synaptic, the ubuntu installer, what?  more info please
[07:06] <p0mppu> paradizelost: I'm not sure about the warranty..but it's really all the same whether or not it's readable under windows, the point is, I would like to get it readable under something :)
[07:06] <netllama> paradizelost: ubuntu installer
[07:06] <paradizelost> netllama: k. not me.
[07:06] <paradizelost> well, time to go grab a bite to eat.
[07:06] <netllama> paradizelost: ok.  i can't seem to find anyone, anywhere that knows anything about it.
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: can you paste your sources.list file on pastebin please
[07:06] <netllama> i've tried the mailing list, the forums, and now here
[07:07] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak and tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9926
[07:07] <p0mppu> oh and paradizelost cfdisk seems to be unable to create anything on the disc :(7
[07:07] <paradizelost> netllama: try contacting the developers via email.
[07:07] <p0mppu> :/
[07:07] <paradizelost> p0mppu: the disk is hosed...
[07:07] <gnomefreak> im looking at 9927
[07:07] <LuisBG> is there a cputemp app for ppc?
[07:07] <netllama> paradizelost: ok.  whidh devs would i contact?
[07:07] <paradizelost> netllama: not a clue
[07:07] <paradizelost> netllama: ;)
[07:07] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: run in terminal sudo apt-get update
[07:08] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I did
[07:08] <netllama> paradizelost: tis ok.  i think this explains alot of the probloems.  no one seems to be maintaining the installer as far as i can tell
[07:08] <gnomefreak> let me know what kind of output it gives you
[07:08] <Celestianpower> I'll pastebin the result
[07:08] <fateminasab> nickrud: how can i reinstall it?(not for now)
[07:08] <nickrud> fateminasab, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <gnomefreak> anyone using the us repos in here?
[07:08] <fateminasab> nickrud: Thanks
[07:08] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers
[07:08] <prower> Hmm...another quick question, does Ubuntu (or Linux in general) support ufs2 partitions?
[07:08] <Drac|Crate> What is the actual command for the CD player?
[07:09] <nickrud> gnomefreak, me
[07:09] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9966
[07:09] <gnomefreak> nickrud: are they down?
[07:09] <nickrud> checking
[07:09] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: are you sure you dont have the cdrom repo in your sources.list file?
[07:10] <corona1> does anyone know how to arrange folders in thunderbird?
[07:10] <nickrud> gnomefreak, an update just worked
[07:10] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yes
[07:10] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[07:10] <soundray> LuisBG: I'd like to know that, too... Have you stfw?
[07:10] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I copied it exactly
[07:10] <prower> I've been using FreeBSD for quite a while, and it's a top notch operating system :> Ubuntu seems to fit my personal use better, however, although I have had zero issues with FreeBSD 6.0 itself
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: try taking the country code out completely
[07:11] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, did you add the keys ?
[07:12] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: What do you mean?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: you shouldnt need to with offical repos
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: are you using a proxy by chance?
[07:12] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, perhaps
[07:13] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I don't think so
[07:13] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, have you got windows installed in your computer?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: yes
[07:13] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, are you in the uk ?
[07:14] <SoulPropagation> for some reason, my desktop keeps freezing up and i can't do anything about it except cut the power and reboot
[07:14] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Yes
[07:14] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: I  just removed the country codes
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: take the country code out of the repos and try it please
[07:14] <SoulPropagation> and this seems to have started after i installed (via apt) xfce4 stuffs
[07:14] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, did it work ?
[07:14] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Just did
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: now run apt-0get update
[07:14] <frank23> SoulPropagation: do you have an amd64 processor?
[07:14] <gnomefreak> apt-get update even
[07:14] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: why?
[07:14] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Still gives the same response
[07:14] <SoulPropagation> frank23: pentium 3
[07:15] <cwillu> pardon a moment of heresy
[07:15] <warreng> anybody run ubuntu on a server? i'm currently using debian, but the ubuntu packages have more of the versions i need..... thoughts? i don't need X or gnome or anything...
[07:15] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I thought you found ubuntu as a complete alternative for windows
[07:15] <SoulPropagation> Celestianpower: he means apt-get update
[07:15] <eth0> hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: i did
[07:15] <cwillu> anybody know of a way to make tab completion (or even the whole shell) case insensitive?
[07:15] <SoulPropagation> warreng: yeah, ubuntu servers are awesome
[07:15] <gnomefreak> i have it installed not for me for others in house
[07:15] <cwillu> not talking about the filesystem itself, just my interface to it
[07:15] <nickrud> cwillu, no
[07:15] <warreng> SoulPropagation: can you tell me more?
[07:15] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" wait 10 minutes and try again
[07:15] <warreng> i run ubuntu on my desktop and like it... and debian on servers....
[07:15] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: well you can do stuff like grep -i
[07:15] <nickrud> cwillu, well, completion maybe, it's just bash scripting
[07:16] <nickrud> *just, lol
[07:16] <SoulPropagation> warreng: it works like your basic server; if you know your bash you'll be fine
[07:16] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, don't worry about the error you get, it's normal
[07:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:16] <gnomefreak> hes getting used to them
[07:16] <warreng> SoulPropagation: how do you install ubuntu without all the X/gnome/kde stuff?
[07:16] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, lol, yeah, but at least this one is ok :P
[07:16] <HymnToLife> warreng> server install
[07:16] <prower> How is the AMD64 distribution of Ubuntu with regard to stability? I'm also considering investing in some new hardware so it'd be nice to know in advance what people are working with :>
[07:16] <SoulPropagation> warreng: at the install prompt type server*enter*
[07:17] <cwillu> sweet
[07:17] <Hammer> O.o
[07:17] <HappyFool> warreng: get 'ubuntu 5.10 server edition' (separate ISO)
[07:17] <cwillu> bind "set completion-ignore-case on"
[07:17] <warreng> SoulPropagation: hah.. nice
[07:17] <Hammer> o.O
[07:17] <Hammer> !botsnack
[07:17] <ubotu> :)
[07:17] <nickrud> cwillu, where!
[07:17] <cwillu> it's an osx tip that works here too :)
[07:17] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: SWEET.
[07:17] <SoulPropagation> that is so going in my .bashrc
[07:17] <cwillu> put it in bash.bashrc and it'll be system wide :)
[07:17] <frank23> prower: stability is ok. the problem is flash, multimedia codecs, proprietary software, etc
[07:18] <SoulPropagation> !cwillusnack
[07:18] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:18] <cwillu> I'd almost suggest that it should be the default;  huge ease of use gain for non-geek users
[07:18] <robinl1> hey, can i spam for something?
[07:18] <prower> frank23: Oh, I see...so win32codecs don't work with 64-bit players, I'm guessing
[07:18] <nickrud> cwillu, I've seen that asked about many times, finally there's an answer
[07:18] <willmc> I must say I LOVE ubuntu :)
[07:18] <cwillu> heh
[07:18] <tristanmike> no spam
[07:18] <cwillu> two seconds on google :)
[07:18] <cwillu> !paste
[07:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:18] <SoulPropagation> and a huge pain-in-the-ass loss for everyone
[07:18] <prower> (Flash isn't a huge problem, it irritates me enough that I tend not to install it ;>)
[07:18] <cwillu> however, I've done that search I don't know how many times :)
[07:19] <robinl1> hmm.. cuz it's a really cool project i'm working on which has to do with extending ubuntu
[07:19] <robinl1> not by looks but by usefulnes
[07:19] <cwillu> robin|1, use the paste bin and message the link
[07:19] <robinl1> cwillu: ok
[07:19] <frank23> prower: well there are ways to make 32bit software work but I just run i386 ubuntu even though I have a AMD64 processor
[07:19] <tristanmike> i think it would be great for -offtopic
[07:19] <jind> Does anybody know if 3com wireless cardbus cards have real linux drivers?
[07:19] <cwillu> or was that robinI1
[07:19] <cwillu> robinl1?
[07:19] <robinl1> tristanmike: i announced it there too
[07:19] <robinl1> cwillu: hmm?
[07:19] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9967 is the response
[07:19] <cwillu> trying to spell your name :p
[07:20] <robinl1> lol
[07:20] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, is that after the command I gave you ?
[07:20] <prower> frank23: Ahh, that's true...perhaps I'll just do it that way, and wait on going fully 64 bit until it's well established
[07:20] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: No, after trying apt-get update again
[07:20] <SoulPropagation> has anyone experienced random hangs (like, system is about 4% of its normal speed and you have to cut the power to get it to respond)?
[07:21] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, please try the command, wait 10 minutes and try and update again
[07:21] <Alapzaj> hy! HOw to make initrd with ubuntu 5.10 breezy? I don't found mkinitrd...
[07:21] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: I did - that was the response
[07:21] <robinl1> i'm gonna make a site for it, along with the notes i jotted down
[07:21] <frank23> prower: that's what I'm doing. I'll wait until its possible to transparently install 32bit programs in ubuntu64 before I switch
[07:21] <Celestianpower> Oh 10 minutes
[07:21] <prower> After saying that, however, for anyone who hasn't used FreeBSD before, I'd highly recommend giving it a look :> It's not nearly as easy to get going as Ubuntu (more on the level of Gentoo), but it makes both a great desktop and server OS in my experience
[07:21] <Celestianpower> Okay
[07:21] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, yes
[07:21] <Celestianpower> Sorry
[07:21] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, no worries :)
[07:22] <eth0> hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?
[07:22] <prower> frank23: That sounds like a good idea :> I'm not in too much of a hurry to upgrade just yet anyway...the P4 I have now could still get a good boost if I upgraded some of the hardware
[07:22] <cwillu> soulpropogation, running the standard firefox or mozilla?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: once you get it set up right its really not
[07:22] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, no, it's new, different, and not windows, did you pick up windows and go "I am now a Master of Windows!" ?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: i did :(
[07:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:22] <robinl1> http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/
[07:22] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Well, it took an awful long time to get the internet to work
[07:22] <cwillu> tristanmike; I did too :)
[07:23] <tristanmike> you guys all suck :P
[07:23] <Protocol1> my direct rendering is disabled....how would I go about enabling it?
[07:23] <jetscreamer> use windows if it's better for you
[07:23] <cwillu> soulpropogation, you there?
[07:23] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: lol
[07:23] <Celestianpower> jetscreamer: Nah - too expensive and unethical
[07:23] <Celestianpower> I don't mind the hassle so long as there are nice people here to help me
[07:23] <gnomefreak> i like a challenge and truthfully bsd gave me more of a challenge than linix
[07:24] <gnomefreak> linux
[07:24] <warreng> HappyFool: where do you see "ubuntu 5.10 server edition" ?
[07:24] <prower> It's surprising that Ubuntu has come so far along and gotten to the point that it's at today...when it first came out I never would have expected it would have gotten to be such a huge, all-encompassing project
[07:24] <frank23> prower: I don't know if its still true but AMD64 processor used to be better at running x86 code than equivalent intel processors. (not all programs, but most) but if the upgrade is just to switch to a 64bit environment, you can wait
[07:24] <Celestianpower> jetscreamer: lol
[07:24] <gnomefreak> prower: its the fastest growing distro
[07:24] <HappyFool> warreng: just a sec
[07:24] <Protocol1> how would I go about checking my 3d setup for my video card?
[07:24] <cwillu> hmm, that's annoying
[07:24] <warreng> HappyFool: found it.. nevermind :)
[07:24] <prower> frank23: Ahh, yes...that's more or less the only reason to upgrade just yet really, to be in the loop :P
[07:25] <squirrelstyle> has anyone had problems with kernal-headers not showing up in /usr/src after upgrading kernal to 2.6.12 when using package manager
[07:25] <prower> Probably best to wait on it a while
[07:25] <warreng> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[07:25] <cwillu> nothing to do with ubuntu, but ctrl+z in gaim on windows minimizes...
[07:25] <prower> gnomefreak: That's the impression that I've been getting, and it's quite impressive considering the limited resources there are to work with
[07:25] <GTX> Guys, I installed some things on my computer and now allways startup on start which I dont want, Ive managed to remove some, but then when I shut the pc down it trys to close them when there not open, how do I remove what it shuts down on shutdown
[07:25] <robinl1> cwillu: myeah, sucks
[07:25] <gnomefreak> yes it is but just wait till the 6.10 release ;)
[07:26] <nickrud> GTX, that depends on what it is, and where it's started
[07:26] <jetscreamer> why would the kernel headers magically show up
[07:26] <warreng> when's the next ubuntu release scheduled? and will that include an ubuntu-server edition?
[07:26] <[D-Coy] Adam> Anybody having trouble booting Dapper live?
[07:26] <pedro> Hi, is it planned RSS on Evolution ?
[07:26] <jetscreamer> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:26] <HappyFool> warreng: the iso has architecture specific kernels, also apache and other server programs not on the normal ubuntu cd (i hope that's all correct); it does use the same packages as normal ubuntu (i.e., same package repositories)
[07:26] <cwillu> 6.04 is a strong hint
[07:26] <prower> gnomefreak: That's what I'm looking forward to...it seems that there's always something impressive that's done with each new release :>
[07:26] <cwillu> it's 2006, the 4th month :p
[07:26] <gnomefreak> warreng: they all have server install
[07:26] <HappyFool> warreng: fwiw, here's the announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[07:27] <squirrelstyle> i m trying to load vmware on a new install of 5.10
[07:27] <frank23> gnomefreak: prower: maybe that's what when happens when a distro is headed by a philantropic billionaire
[07:27] <pedro> Any Evolution expert ?
[07:27] <cwillu> as opposed to merely a 10's of million-aire (jwz)
[07:27] <prower> frank23: That's true...not important who the money comes from really, so long as it gets to the right places ;>
[07:28] <jetscreamer> apt-get remove --purge evo...
[07:28] <gnomefreak> pedro: please tell us your issue if noone can answer it there are places we can send you
[07:28] <gnomefreak> lol jet
[07:28] <gnomefreak> altho i agree
[07:28] <squirrelstyle> jetscreamer --- merci
[07:28] <pedro> yes, i'd like to know if RSS reader is planned to Evolution
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> What's the command to turn off the backlight of the screen?
[07:29] <gnomefreak> pedro: that question may be bettered answered in #evolution (if you are talking about if rss reader will be in next release
[07:29] <Alapzaj> How to make my own initrd?
[07:30] <prower> Hmm...I'm finding myself liking Gnome a lot more as it progresses, too :> I still use KDE as my main desktop but it's becoming improved enough that it's worth looking at
[07:30] <DaNeon> mkinitrd
[07:30] <squirrelstyle> jetscreamer --- merci
[07:30] <squirrelstyle> jetscreamer --- merci
[07:30] <eth0> hi, are tc/ip illustrated vol. 1 & 2 worth reading, or are they too out-dated?
[07:30] <pedro> ok, i'll go to #Evo :) Cool! Bye
[07:30] <tristanmike> prower, i really enjoy using gnome
[07:30] <cwillu> eth0, what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:30] <pedro> 6.04 rules !
[07:30] <jmartini> eth0: TCP/IP hasn't changed all that much so I'm sure they're fine
[07:30] <judgen> what is the name of the package that contains the freefonts
[07:31] <eth0> cwillu: network programming
[07:31] <DaNeon> pedro, 6.04 = #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <Protocol1> does anyone know where the Xserver folder is located?
[07:31] <jetscreamer> np squirrelstyle
[07:31] <cwillu> may not cover the latest virtual switching stuff, but that doesn't really affect the programming side
[07:31] <paradizelost> Protocol1: /etc/X11
[07:31] <frank23> prower: If gnome had a file manager like konqueror, maybe I'd give it a chance again.
[07:31] <jetscreamer> /etc/X11 and then there's the X11R6 or so which is in... i forget but you can do it luke!
[07:31] <eth0> jmartini: k, thanks
[07:32] <frank23> when 6.04 comes out, it will be one year since I completely switched to linux. I switched when hoary came out ;)
[07:33] <vars_> i get this error  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5
and yet it doesn't do completion in the user list</gripe>
[07:33] <QbY> Dumb newb question..  How can I burn a CD/DVD with Ubuntu???
[07:33] <cwillu> soulpropogation, still there?
[07:33] <Alapzaj> DaNeon: but i don't have mkinitrd command! In which package can i found?
[07:33] <Protocol1> will the latest versions of xserver work with ubuntu 5.10
[07:33] <Protocol1> ?
[07:33] <NegativeSpace> Hi, is there a newbie channel I can join?
[07:33] <tristanmike> QbY, k3b
[07:33] <SoulPropagation> has anyone experienced random hangs (like, system is about 4% of its normal speed and you have to cut the power to get it to respond)?
[07:33] <cwillu> soulpropogation
[07:33] <SoulPropagation> NegativeSpace: you made it
[07:33] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Same response once again
[07:33] <BobC2> Been years since I've chatted on IRC but want to try Linux (Ubuntu) now How do I register my nick here?
[07:33] <cwillu> are you running the standard firefox or mozilla?
[07:33] <LuisBG> what does drapper drake mean?
[07:34] <cwillu> soulpropogation, also, do a 'top' in a terminal and see whats killing you
[07:34] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, let's see your "edited" sources once more
[07:34] <DaNeon> search for mkinirtd in synaptic
[07:34] <Terminus> BobC2: /msg NickServ help
[07:34] <jetscreamer> it's a secret
[07:34] <LuisBG> BobC2, /msg NickServ REGISTER pass
[07:34] <judgen> tonyyarusso didnt help me
[07:34] <jetscreamer> we could tell you but then we'd have to kill you
[07:34] <paradizelost> Protocol1: you should have xorg-x11 installed already
[07:34] <NegativeSpace> I made what?
[07:34] <_Felix> hello
[07:34] <BobC2> Thanks Terminus
[07:34] <cjnodell> hey all.
[07:34] <cwillu> soulpropogation;  if your using the standard firefox/mozilla, it's got a bad memory leak in the debian versions;  firefox 1.5 or any mozilla.org build work fine
[07:34] <jetscreamer> !seen bob2
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> judgen: Hmm, okay, 1 sec...
[07:34] <ubotu> jetscreamer: i haven't seen 'bob2'
[07:34] <_Felix> sm56.tk -> file doesn't want to compile!
[07:34] <SoulPropagation> SoulPropagation: once it hangs, i literally can't do ANYTHING. i can't even ^AltF1
[07:34] <cjnodell> I have a quick apt question.
[07:34] <judgen> what is the name of the package tonyyarusso
[07:34] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, i personally haven't seen that error before
[07:34] <frank23> LuisBG: dapper drake is the name of the next version of ubuntu
[07:34] <jetscreamer> ok now kill him
[07:35] <_Felix> How can I set up myy modem? Please
[07:35] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: firefox 1.5
[07:35] <cwillu> :/
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> judgen: Looks like ttf-freefont.
[07:35] <LuisBG> frank23, yeah I know... but what does it actually mean?
[07:35] <cwillu> so that shouldn't be the problem
[07:35] <SoulPropagation> wait a sec, why did i just say SoulPropagation? hahaha
[07:35] <cwillu> you did, but I got it anyway :p
[07:35] <nickrud> jetscreamer, you miss his snarkiness, too?
[07:35] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9968
[07:35] <cjnodell> I am trying to use dokg to install a local file but i have missing dpendencies. Is there a way to find and download all of those dependincies with apt or dpkg?
[07:36] <cwillu> soulpropogation, how often does it happen?
[07:36] <judgen> tonyyarusso thanks
[07:36] <_Felix> P l e a s e !
[07:36] <frank23> LuisBG: I think a drake is an animal. dapper is an adjective but I dont' know what it means. It's pretty obscure to me too. Not much better than breezy badger
[07:36] <judgen> tonyyarusso that was exactly the package i needed
[07:36] <gnomefreak> i find it hard to believe im the only one trying to use screem :(
[07:36] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, pardon me for the dumb question, you are on Breezy right ?
[07:36] <LuisBG> which do you recommend en_US.utf-8 or en_us.iso-8859-15
[07:36] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: No idea
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> cwillu: Do you think the FF memory leak will be fixed in Dapper or some other point in the future, or is it something about making a deb package and it would be better to get it from Mozilla always?
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> judgen: Good stuff.
[07:36] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, System - About Ubuntu
[07:36] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: i think it already has been fixed in dapper
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> judgen: For future reference, I just got that from 'apt-cache search freefont'.
[07:37] <cwillu> tonyyarusso, dapper's running 1.5 by default which I believe doesn't have the problem
[07:37] <paradizelost> tonyyarusso: the leak isn't an ubuntu issue, it's a firefox issue
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Oh good.
[07:37] <BobC2> LuisBG  Ok I'll try that too
[07:37] <cwillu> it's actually a problem in debian upstream
[07:37] <paradizelost> cwillu: i know the windows version of it has the memory leak in 1.5.0.1
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> cwillu, paradizelost: Got it.
[07:37] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: What am I looking for?
[07:37] <paradizelost> cwillu: not sure about the linux version
[07:37] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: it's SoulPropAgation not SoulPropOgation, btw ... and it happens ... pretty randomly i haven't seen any patter
[07:37] <SoulPropagation> n
[07:37] <cwillu> paradizelost;  ya, that's not this though;  this was particular to the _debian_ version of the _gtk_ builds
[07:38] <paradizelost> cwillu: k.
[07:38] <tristanmike> Core Components...it should say 5.10 or something else
[07:38] <cwillu> SoulPropagation :p
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> frank23: Duck.  Shiny, attractive, smooth, slick, fancy.
[07:38] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: It says 5.10
[07:38] <cwillu> give me a break;  my version of gaim doesn't do nick completion :)
[07:38] <tristanmike> cool
[07:38] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: wtf? apt-get upgrade that mofo
[07:38] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, apparently the archives are having some troubles....
[07:38] <cwillu> win32 :p
[07:38] <poingpoing> Hello any native english speaker here, willing to query me for a quick language question? (Non Ubuntu related)
[07:39] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Oh
[07:39] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: so get the 1.5 .exe
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> poingpoing: Ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:39] <poingpoing> Oh thanks!
[07:39] <cwillu> SoulPropagation: I'd try leaving a terminal running top with delay set to 1 ('d' + '1')
[07:39] <cwillu> just to see what kills it
[07:39] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, but I'd add the gpg key anyway
[07:39] <cwillu> if it responds at all (even 30 seconds later), you should be able to figure out what's the problem
[07:39] <frank23> tonyyarusso: thanks ;)
[07:39] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: gpg key?
[07:39] <blue__> Hello, does anyone have any information on using Duel Monitors in Ubuntu?
[07:40] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, do you see the 2 lines in your sources.list where it starts "gpg --"
[07:40] <BobC2> poingpoing  I'm a native speaker but can't PM ATM
[07:40] <SoulPropagation> oh, and sometimes my hdd makes messed up noises
[07:40] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Yes, they're commented out
[07:40] <SoulPropagation> /m poingpoing hey
[07:40] <gnomefreak> BobC2: make sure you are registered and identified
[07:40] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, right, that's fine
[07:40] <cwillu> SoulPropagation: also, you _might_ want to consider bumping to dapper;  this of course could break absolutely everything, but there's enough changes under the hood that the problem might just disappear.  [disclaimer:  I didn't say anything just now, ok?] 
[07:40] <BobC2> Yes I'm working on it gnomefreak thanks!
[07:41] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: So what do I do?
[07:41] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, you run those 2 commands in a terminal, replacing "KEY" with the number you see by "GPG key:"
[07:41] <Protocol1> paradizelost, the question was is it the latest version?
[07:41] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: i have considering it ... btw, does it have XGL/other cool effect things installed by default?
[07:41] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5     for instance
[07:41] <cwillu> no
[07:41] <SoulPropagation> i have been considering it, that is
[07:41] <prower> Alright, time to wipe everything off again and get Ubuntu installed :> Later
[07:41] <cwillu> you can install it easily enough, assuming your hardware supports it;   believe its still a manual process thougfh
[07:42] <cwillu> direction are only a page or so of simple instructions
[07:42] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, then "gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add - 437D05B5"
[07:42] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: How doI find out the key?
[07:42] <cwillu> I can't make xgl work on my card;  but we'll leave this particular conversation to #dapper+1 :p
[07:42] <Xeem> Hi
[07:42] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, as I said, it's in your sources.list   (packages, GPG key: blah)
[07:42] <paradizelost> Protocol1: not sure.  but the next major release is still a ways off.
[07:43] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, but add the ".us" first
[07:43] <paradizelost> Protocol1: and i'll take known stable over bleeding edge any day
[07:43] <blue__> Anyone..?  Dual monitors?
[07:43] <_Felix> ^^
[07:43] <tristanmike> Celestianpower, never mind that last statement, I'm a fool
[07:43] <SoulPropagation> blue__: look into something called xinerama
[07:43] <blue__> ok, thankyou
[07:43] <Protocol1> yeah I hear ya
[07:43] <Protocol1> im for stable
[07:43] <jetscreamer> for nvidia just read their readme even if you don't use the binary
[07:44] <cjuner> Hi there... I'd like to keep my home directory under version control. Which version control system to use? Are there ways to make working with those more transparent?
[07:44] <Xeem> Somebody know how can i update list of sources to apt-get ?
[07:44] <SoulPropagation> Xeem: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and run sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <soundray> !tell Xeem about easysource
[07:44] <cwillu> SoulPropagation: what's the computer, how old, how old is the drive if different from the computer, how big's the drive?
[07:45] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: pentium 3 800mhz from circa 1999, drive came with computer, drive is 30gb
[07:45] <cwillu> xeem, there's a sources.list builder on ubuntu.com (google for "sources.list builder ubuntu")
[07:45] <cwillu> 7 years is a long time for a drive :/
[07:45] <cwillu> it _could_ be the drive is failing
[07:46] <_Felix> seems like no-one can help
[07:46] <_Felix> bye
[07:46] <cwillu> _felix, try again later
[07:46] <_Felix> heh, k
[07:46] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: aw, darn... that's no fun. i'm broke up the wazoo
[07:46] <cwillu> people will answer if they know anything
[07:46] <cwillu> (sorry)  :)
[07:46] <CarinArr> _felix, what's the actual problem?
[07:46] <tristanmike> _Felix, what's the problem?
[07:46] <_Felix> oh
[07:46] <cwillu> modem issue?
[07:46] <_Felix> Yes
[07:46] <_Felix> trying to setup my sm56
[07:47] <CarinArr> oh, probably can't help you then, never had the pleasure of having to set one up;)
[07:47] <cwillu> SoulPropagation: I'm not dead sure how, but an hd scan of some sort might shed some light
[07:47] <_Felix> And i downloaded the sm56.tk
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: linux has a scandisk?
[07:47] <cwillu> you can probably get a diagnostic util from the manufacturer (typically a boot disk of some kind)
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> oh
[07:47] <_Felix> i mean the file from there, and it couldn't compile...
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> right
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> fsck
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> i didn't say anything . . . . . .
[07:47] <cwillu> lol
[07:47] <tristanmike> _Felix, why? what were the errors ?
[07:47] <cwillu> fsck is more filesystem level though
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> is there a drive check thing?
[07:48] <cwillu> we're talking surface scan type stuff, I don't know that fsck does that (does it?)
[07:48] <_Felix> Loads of them....
[07:48] <_Felix> First in slab.h, then in stdio.h.... :/
[07:48] <_Felix> And in the actual program... :/
[07:48] <tristanmike> _Felix, lol, that's no good, pastebin them ?
[07:48] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: i don't think so i mean it is FSck
[07:48] <_Felix> im looking for the good alternative...
[07:48] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: know of any surface scanners?
[07:48] <_Felix> this doesn't seem to work :/
[07:48] <tristanmike> _Felix, pastebin the errors
[07:49] <_Felix> huh
[07:49] <cwillu> no;  I've got a cd of a collection of vendor's diagnostics, but can't remember what it's called
[07:49] <cwillu> !paste
[07:49] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:49] <_Felix> i'm not on the lin right now
[07:49] <tristanmike> thank you cwillu
[07:49] <tristanmike> _Felix, ok, are you using gcc 3?
[07:49] <DaNeon> any how-to's?
[07:49] <SoulPropagation> DaNeon: on what
[07:49] <Xeem> Somebody know how can i update list of sources to apt-get ?
[07:49] <Xeem> But i do apt-get update. but when i do apt-get install conky its give me erroe
[07:49] <_Felix> 4 i think... :/
[07:49] <GTX> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[07:49] <GTX> how do I fix this?
[07:50] <DaNeon> SoulPropagation, sorry wrong channel
[07:50] <tristanmike> _Felix, that may be your first problem
[07:50] <DaNeon> SoulPropagation, i'm on dapper
[07:50] <SoulPropagation> _Felix: well, there's no spoon
[07:50] <tristanmike> _Felix, according to the website it compiles under gcc2 and gcc3
[07:50] <Jonnings_> I've installed the latest Blackdown Java runtime environment, but i still get the "additional plugins needed" msg when i enter some pages. Are there any additional settings i need to change to make this work?
[07:50] <SutureSleep> Can somone tell me why my DNS servers wont stay the way I set them up..
[07:50] <_Felix> ok
[07:51] <_Felix> if i alien the .rpm driver and install
[07:51] <_Felix> will it work*
[07:51] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: are you sure its add - key?
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> _Felix: Maybe.
[07:51] <nickrud> Jonnings, some of the newer applets need java 1.5, see !java
[07:51] <CarinArr> _felix, possibly, but that's probably one of the cases where it's touch and go
[07:51] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-key add - key?
[07:51] <CarinArr> for drivers and stuff
[07:51] <Jonnings_> !java
[07:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:51] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, the other way wouldn't work for me, I always had to add the key at the end and I'd get an "OK" and not an error
[07:51] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, i thought the same thing too
[07:51] <gnomefreak> i get error
[07:52] <mattwestm> where do I set users that aren't allowed to login via SSH?
[07:52] <_Felix> so, 50:50
[07:52] <gnomefreak> running update to see if the error meant anything
[07:52] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, try it without the space between the - and the key
[07:52] <CarinArr> _felix, if you can save the error, or at least the first few lines of the error and pastebin it to us we might be able to help tho
[07:52] <CarinArr> _felix, i wouldn't give any odds for it heh
[07:52] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: that is an unknown command
[07:52] <gnomefreak> i tried that way too
[07:52] <_Felix> k, guys thx
[07:53] <SutureSleep> Can somone tell me why my DNS servers wont stay the way I set them up..
[07:53] <_Felix> i'll tell you when  i do, if i dont solve it... :/
[07:53] <gnomefreak> the error means nothing it worked :)
[07:53] <ubuntu29> live cd huh?
[07:53] <cwillu> SutureSleep; if I had to guess, I'd say they're getting reconfigured by dhcp
[07:53] <Jonnings> !javadebs
[07:53] <tristanmike> gnomefreak, good :)
[07:53] <SutureSleep> cwillu: is there a way to keep them how I set them
[07:54] <peratu> Hi.
[07:54] <peratu> Somebody with iBook + AirportExtreme?
[07:54] <GTX> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[07:54] <GTX> how do I fix this?
[07:55] <ubuntu29> any way to burn your setting when ruinning a live cd????????????
[07:55] <cwillu> SutureSleep:  look at /etc/network
[07:56] <ubuntu29> system settings like firefox?
[07:56] <cwillu> SutureSleep: you should be able to specifically set the dns in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:56] <tristanmike> ubuntu29, on breezy live ?
[07:56] <SutureSleep> cwillu: ok ill check that out, thanks
[07:56] <cwillu> SutureSleep: man interfaces will give you the syntax
[07:57] <cwillu> hhmm
[07:57] <akcom> I feel extremely stupid asking this, but I just installed the eclipse-ecj-gjt package, how do I actually get eclipse running?
[07:57] <xanavim> does Ubuntu run on both processors on the new AMD dual-core processors?
[07:57] <tristanmike> ubuntu29, so that when you use the livecd again, you can start where you left off ?
[07:57] <cwillu> SutureSleep:  I might have lead you wrong though;  I'm not dead sure dns is set from there anymore :)
[07:57] <akcom> neither "eclipse" nor "eclipse-ecj-gjt" are recognized at the console
[07:57] <caravena> Hello
[07:57] <cwillu> akcom, are you in their directory?  make sure you do ./eclipse
[07:57] <gnomefreak> akcom: restart menus
[07:57] <akcom> "no suck file/directory"
[07:57] <akcom> gnomefreak: how would I go about doing that?
[07:58] <bosco> how do i add more desktops in terminal
[07:58] <gnomefreak> akcom: did you install eclipse common? i think they all depend on that one
[07:58] <xanavim> bosco: please be more descriptive
[07:58] <akcom> yes, I installed eclipse common
[07:59] <gnomefreak> akcom: try killall gnome-panel it should come right back up and you should if installed find it in menu
[07:59] <Alapzaj> what is the packagen name where included mkinitrd?
[07:59] <bosco> xanavim,  i have 4 desktops and the graphical way will not work correctly and i want to mannually ad them i have 4 but i want 7 or so
[07:59] <jordo2323> I know this is a non UBUNTU question but does anyone have any experience with FEDORA DIRECTORY SERVER?
[07:59] <akcom> gnomefreak: tried it and its not in the menu
[08:00] <akcom> nor is it in the list of applications that can be added
[08:00] <Protocol1> can someone tell me how to get into the xorg configuration?
[08:00] <bosco> xanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work
[08:00] <gnomefreak> akcom: that tells me its not installed properly or fully
[08:00] <OmniColos> ubuntu crashes my trs-80 :P
[08:00] <cwillu> Protocol1:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:00] <akcom> ah, my mistake, you need the eclipse package, not just eclipse-ecj-gjt
[08:01] <Protocol1> i meant for configuring the video setup?
[08:01] <cwillu> alternatively, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you the gui
[08:01] <nickrud> Protocol1, or for easy config, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:01] <cwillu> (or is it xorg-xserver?)
[08:01] <cwillu> xserver-xorg :p
[08:01] <Protocol1> nickrud thanks
[08:01] <gnomefreak> :) no more errors
[08:01] <akcom> thank you very much :)
[08:01] <DjQcZonE> someone can tell me if it's normal that my ubuntu is different than what it's writed in the docs....like installing proftp and in the doc it's writed that proftpd.conf is in /etc but in my system it's not at this place...
[08:01] <gnomefreak> nickrud: what teh -phigh do?
[08:01] <Rambo3> !dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[08:02] <kditty> can anyone help me with a network problem?
[08:02] <kditty> i tried the forum nobody seems to want to respond
[08:02] <gnomefreak> kditty: if you tell us we might
[08:02] <nickrud> gnomefreak, reduces (drastically) the number of questions you have to answer
[08:02] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh nice :)
[08:02] <cwillu> kditty, just shout it out, if anybody knows, they'll answer
[08:02] <kditty> gnomefreak, couldi link you to the forum thread to make it easier to explain my situation?
[08:03] <bosco> xanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work
[08:03] <gnomefreak> kditty: please ask the whole room
[08:03] <NegativeSpace> What would be the best channel for a newbie?
[08:03] <gnomefreak>  oh and yes kditty
[08:03] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:03] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, here
[08:03] <NegativeSpace> Okay, cool.
[08:04] <kditty> ok, i am online right now throuhg unbuntu live cd, everything works fine and dandy, so i decided to format my old computer and unstall ubuntu 5.10
[08:04] <Protocol1> that command just let me close out of my session?
[08:04] <kditty> but when i logged on i couldnt get access to my network, but the live cd under network properties lists all available networks, and the hard drive install doesnt
[08:04] <NegativeSpace> I want to uninstall Firefox 1.0.7 and install 1.5 but Ubuntu complains when I try and get rid of it.
[08:04] <Protocol1> and I had to log back in
[08:04] <NegativeSpace> Any ideas why? And how to get 1.5?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> NegativeSpace: not on breezy you dont
[08:05] <cwillu> !firefox
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell NegativeSpace about firefox1.5
[08:05] <tristanmike> !ff1.5
[08:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:05] <gnomefreak> NegativeSpace: you have to keep 1.0.7 and install 1.5 next to it
[08:05] <vars_> hey how do i test my graphics card?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> brb again this time im getting up
[08:05] <dyrne> vars_: you can type glxgears
[08:05] <NegativeSpace> Okay, guys, cheers.
[08:05] <vars_> is there a good free fps for ubuntu?
[08:06] <NegativeSpace> I'm afraid I may be asking several questions.
[08:06] <kditty> gnomefreak, here is the url to the topic http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142098
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> vars_: You can get frames per second with glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:06] <Protocol1> I did type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"  and it just logged me out of my session
[08:06] <Protocol1> ?
[08:06] <cwillu> :/
[08:07] <cwillu> Protocol1:  I'm sorry, we should have mentioned that
[08:07] <Protocol1> im trying to go through video setup
[08:07] <orbitron> Finding little help in the forums abotu gnome-admin.  I want to restrict users from changing the background
[08:07] <CarinArr> vars_, you'll want to copy/paste cause believe me there are a million ways you can typo that;)
[08:07] <Protocol1> how can I get there?
[08:07] <cwillu> the xserver needs to restart to apply the settings, and so ya, it kinda kills your session
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'9
[08:07] <lsuactiafner> 7 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers
[08:08] <lsuactiafner> nforce4 chipset
[08:08] <nickrud> Protocol1, it shouldn't have logged you out. Are you in a console (text screen)?
[08:08] <CarinArr> lsuactiafner, i think that's the motherboard i have on my workstation upstairs
[08:08] <rantak> vars_: try enemy territory, it has good multiplayer
[08:08] <vars_> cool
[08:08] <CarinArr> but don't have a surround system set up at the moment so i couldnt' tell you if it works
[08:08] <Protocol1> i have one out ...yeah
[08:08] <vars_> how do i get framespersecond on glxgears?
[08:09] <nickrud> Protocol1, run that command in the console, then type sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[08:09] <HappyFool> glxgears -printfps
[08:09] <lsuactiafner> vars_ : run it from a terminal, it will display fps on the terminal
[08:09] <bosco> xanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work
[08:09] <maenty> hi, all
[08:09] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool : you know anything about sorround sound 5.1 an linux?
[08:09] <HappyFool> in the breezy version, you have to ask for fps
[08:09] <maenty> I have installed automake1.9 with apt-get install, but when i type automake --version it still shows it is 1.4
[08:09] <Protocol1> all I want is the video setup screen to select which drivers to selct from
[08:09] <maenty> can someone help, how can I make automake to point to the new 1.9 version?
[08:09] <Rambo3> i have soundblaster 5.1
[08:09] <Protocol1> its like a blue screen
[08:10] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: no, sorry. i've got a crappy sound system
[08:10] <nickrud> Protocol1, that's it
[08:10] <lsuactiafner> Rambo3 : all your speakers work like it should?
[08:10] <Protocol1> ok
[08:10] <Rambo3> yeah
[08:10] <lsuactiafner> Rambo3 : what card ect do you have?
[08:10] <Rambo3> sb live 5.1
[08:10] <LuisBG> is there a cputemp app for ppc?
[08:10] <kyncani> maenty: dpkg -l automake1.9 | grep bin/
[08:10] <vars_> is 4000 any good?
[08:11] <vars_> fps?
[08:11] <Rambo3> 1 central base speaker and 2 sorund
[08:11] <nickrud> Protocol1, if you still have problems with it (that is, you have odd enough hardware that the dpkg-reconfigure can't figure it out,
[08:11] <maenty> kyncani: no result
[08:11] <CarinArr> kyncani, it doesn't actually symlink automake to automake-1.9 tho
[08:11] <nickrud> Protocol1, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; there's a lot more questions you'll have to answer.
[08:11] <Rambo3> abyway you fix them in alsa mixer  or alsa mixer gui
[08:12] <bosco> how do i run a script
[08:12] <Protocol1> nickrud thats the command
[08:12] <Protocol1> heh
[08:12] <CarinArr> i have both 1.4 and 1.9 installed and automake points to 1.4
[08:12] <kyncani> maenty: an automake package that would install no binary ? You got me there
[08:12] <bosco> Protocol1,  no it says command not found
[08:12] <dyrne> bosco: sh scriptname or chmod +x scriptname then ./scriptname
[08:12] <maenty> kyncani: I'm honest
[08:12] <thompa> does anyone know if the notebook reboot problem has been solved for centrinos?
[08:12] <kyncani> maenty: i believe you, but can't help you :)
[08:12] <maenty> kyncani: I just typed what you said, dpkg -l automake1.9 | grep bin and no result
[08:13] <Protocol1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> thompa: What problem would that be?
[08:13] <Protocol1> that opens up the screen I wanted
[08:13] <Protocol1> heh
[08:13] <maenty> kyncani: dpkg -l automake1.9 gives me 6 lines of stuff
[08:13] <nickrud> Protocol1, heh, -phigh works 95% of the time :)
[08:13] <fintler>  13:13:18 up 86 days, 22:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[08:13] <fintler> with breezy :)
[08:13] <maenty> kyncani: when I don't greb the bin part, and it seems there is nothing about bin
[08:13] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all
[08:13] <SoulPropagation> Xorg is what's causing the problem
[08:13] <SoulPropagation> it eats up 308m of ram
[08:14] <CrAzYoNi> Where can I find the current pictures of the theme I'm using?
[08:14] <cwillu> SoulPropagation:  resident or vm?
[08:14] <nickrud> SoulPropagation, part of that 308 is your video card memory; do not trust that number
[08:14] <CarinArr> maenty, do dpkg -L automake1.9 | grep bin/
[08:14] <SoulPropagation> cwillu: res, i believe
[08:14] <CarinArr> should list /usr/bin/automake-1.9
[08:15] <gnomefreak> CrAzYoNi: in gnome system>preff>theme and it should show you the theme you are using
[08:15] <thompa> tonyyarusso: my sony vaio starts to reboot, after a while gets to "rebooting" and hangs
[08:15] <CrAzYoNi> not that..
[08:15] <kyncani> maenty, CarinArr : did i say -l and not -L ? my mistake :)
[08:15] <CrAzYoNi> In the panel in Ubuntu 5.10 There is the ubuntu logo
[08:15] <CrAzYoNi> I want to change it
[08:15] <thompa> i just installed ubuntu and ran updates
[08:15] <CarinArr> maenty, if you want it to automatically use 1.9 you can always brute force it by symlinking automake to automake-1.9
[08:15] <maenty> /usr/bin/aclocal-1.9
[08:15] <maenty> /usr/bin/automake-1.9
[08:15] <CrAzYoNi> Ill still use this logo though I want to replae its background color
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Hmm, curious.  Was wondering b/c I have and IBM/Lenovo laptop with Centrino, no problem with that.
[08:15] <nickrud> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[08:15] <nickrud>  CrAzYoNi
[08:15] <jmartini> is there a way to get synaptic to always go to the internet rather than look for a CD?
[08:16] <CrAzYoNi> thank you
[08:16] <gnomefreak> CrAzYoNi: i dont know if you can i know you can change the middle section of the panel but either end i havent found a way yet
[08:16] <vars_> hey i want to run some stuff just out of windows, what is the best way to virtualize windows
[08:16] <maenty> CarinArr: where is the automake that I should symlink to 1.9?
[08:16] <CarinArr> maenty, but for whatever reason it doesn't repoint the symlink automatically
[08:16] <maenty> CarinArr: sorry, I'm a bit new to this
[08:16] <SoulPropagation> jmartini: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of the deb-cdrom line
[08:16] <CrAzYoNi> I want to change the "applications' backgroud if to be specific
[08:16] <thompa> tonyyarusso: did you add anything like noapic to boot, are you running stock kernel?
[08:16] <jmartini> Thanks
[08:16] <vars_> is qemu anygood?
[08:16] <maenty> CarinArr: ln -s  is symlink ?
[08:16] <kyncani> maenty, CarinArr : from the package description, it does not work well
[08:17] <CarinArr> maenty, well /usr/bin/automake points to /etc/alternatives/automake, which points to /usr/bin/automake-1.4
[08:17] <CarinArr> heh
[08:17] <jetscreamer> man alternatives
[08:17] <nadia007> anyone familiar with wpa_supplicant?  for wireless WPA.
[08:18] <CarinArr> so you can either point /usr/bin/automake direct to /usr/bin/automake-1.9 or you can point /etc/alternatives/automake to the 1.9 binary
[08:18] <nickrud> CarinArr, sudo update-alternatives --config automake
[08:18] <CarinArr> nickrud, oh didn't know about that:)
[08:18] <bosco> xanavim,  i need to do it in terminal mannually since the graphical way wont work
[08:18] <CarinArr> maenty, you'll want to do what nickrud says then
[08:19] <thompa> tonyyarusso: im just going through a thread and it seems as if there is a bug, to be fixed in dapper
[08:19] <nickrud> CarinArr, ubuntu makes switching that stuff easy, look at /etc/alteratives for the stuff that can be configured that way
[08:19] <CarinArr> no point in brute forcing if there's an alternative
[08:19] <maenty> great, thanks alot nickrud
[08:19] <jetscreamer> i can never remember what is what so i just do update-alternatives --all
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> I've used without problems 2.6.12-{9-386,10-386,10-686}.  All with that boot addition.
[08:19] <maenty> and thanks also CarinArr and kyncani
[08:19] <CarinArr> nickrud, cool, didn't know about that
[08:19] <xvisor> hello all
[08:20] <thompa> tonyyarusso: the thread says: (Add the reboot=h to the end of the kernel line.)
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> thompa: So what's that do?
[08:20] <nickrud> CarinArr, yw
[08:20] <ghoulee> how do I disable beagles world accessible web service?  I have port 8888 open on my system whenever beagled is running and it's bothering me
[08:21] <xvisor> can somebody help me with an error installing openoffice.org2-writer???
[08:21] <ghoulee> when visiting :8888 in a web browser it gives an error message, but it shouldn't even have the port open on external interfaces
[08:21] <nickrud> ghoulee, I don't have beagle installed, but check  /etc/ for beagle, and in your home directory (probably .beagle)
[08:22] <thompa> tonyyarusso: no idea, it could be a problem with ipw2200 though, dapper reboots fine, maybe i should go to dapper
[08:22] <SoulPropagation> so what's wrong with X?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Eh, release is soon enough.
[08:23] <sinaduel> Hello, I came to ask, on how I go about, burning AVI's to DVD's, so they are playable on DVD Players?
[08:24] <oblib> I'm having a strange audio problem. After I run fceu many times (like 15-20) it starts to choke (just shows a grey scren). If i run another process to play music, fceu works fine because it can't get the audio device. When I stop the music player, it loops whatever it was playing (like .5 seconds worth) for a bit, then finally quits. anyone know what's happening to my audio?
[08:24] <Zjm7891> For future note... if anyone wants to use their trackpad and disable tap to click on a Dell Inspiron 6000 Mention to them they need a heavy drink and they need to compile thier own kernal
[08:24] <Zjm7891> Now where is my heavy drink?
[08:25] <thompa> tonyyarusso: the other small problem is fan is always running high, do you have that?
[08:25] <xanavim> how stable is Ubuntu on an AMD x2 processor?  I would like to get one, but I'm not sure
[08:25] <thompa> i want to try maybe cpu throttle id that works, but cant find it in gnome
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Higher than it probably should, but not excessively so.  There are some notes on the ThinkWiki about that, but I'm not going to bother until I have Dapper installed.
[08:26] <Rambo3> xanavim like in smp kernel ?
[08:26] <xanavim> Rambo3: yeah
[08:26] <tomukas> does anyone use scribus with dapper?
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> tomukas: Ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions.
[08:27] <thompa> tonyyarusso: im going to read up on it, thanks. the fan should not be running always high, that and nvidia make this very hot notebook
[08:27] <Rambo3> using intel hyperthreading , looks like X 2 , anyway it works ok
[08:27] <tomukas> tonyyarusso: ok, kthxbye
[08:27] <kerute> hi
[08:27] <Zjm7891> For future note what is dapper?
[08:27] <Rambo3> it should work on amd X 2 x86
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> thompa: I'm at 51 C right now.
[08:27] <Zjm7891> !dapper
[08:27] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[08:27] <xanavim> Rambo3: sweet, they are blazing fast, maybe I'll get one  :D
[08:27] <Zjm7891> ohhhh pretty
[08:27] <thompa> tonyyarusso: how can i check temp?
[08:28] <Rambo3> !smp
[08:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> thompa: acpi -AV
[08:28] <Zjm7891> For future note... I suggest burning of all ALPS based Mousepads
[08:28] <Epo^^> Hi again :)
[08:28] <sinaduel> would someone please explain how I burn AVI's onto dvd's so they are playable on dvd players
[08:28] <thompa> tonyyarusso: 52 C
[08:28] <LightBeam> Hello
[08:29] <Epo^^> Onther question, once again
[08:29] <Zjm7891> Hello Epo
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Yeah, so we're a little on the warm side atm.
[08:29] <Epo^^> I want to enable my Wireless connection, so I go to the tab in the control panel
[08:29] <thompa> tonyyarusso: do you use cpu throttle?
[08:29] <Epo^^> It says "you need root access", but there isn't a button to get it
[08:29] <Zjm7891> <.<
[08:29] <Zjm7891> Weird
[08:29] <Epo^^> In other dialogs (like fonts or something) there is one
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Yeah.  It's at 42%.
[08:29] <Zjm7891> run it using sudo and ndiswrapper
[08:29] <xvisor> if i try installing openoffice.org2-writer on my dapper install i get an error message saying it depends on python-uno >2.0.1 but i can't install python-uno saying it needs openoffice.org instead of openoffice.org2 :((
[08:29] <Epo^^> I get the "type the root pw", but that doesn't work
[08:30] <LightBeam> how to know he partition i am logged on ? please
[08:30] <Epo^^> like sudo ndiswrapper?
[08:30] <LightBeam> the
[08:30] <Epo^^> (First time linux user)
[08:30] <vars_> how do i format a fat32 to ext3
[08:30] <Zjm7891> yessums ndiswrapper is another
[08:30] <Zjm7891> oh wait
[08:30] <Zjm7891> nevermind
[08:30] <Zjm7891> stick to the GUI =P
[08:30] <thompa> tonyyarusso: how do i change cpu throttle ?
[08:30] <Epo^^> lol ;)
[08:30] <Zjm7891> You are using ubuntu not kubuntu?
[08:30] <Zjm7891> and gnome?
[08:30] <SoulPropagation> my Xorg process sometimes eats up a crapload of ram, and it slows down my computer to the extent that i have to reboot cuz it completely hangs... so what's wrong with X?
[08:30] <Epo^^> kubuntu
[08:30] <Zjm7891> oh
[08:30] <robinl1> can i spam for something?
[08:30] <Zjm7891> Can't help you there... sorry?
[08:31] <cmug> Anyone upgraded from breezy to dapper succesfully?
[08:31] <Epo^^> hm, this is my dads system lol
[08:31] <nickrud> xvisor, openoffice.org in dapper is 2.something now
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> thompa: I have it up with the Gnome applet, and that has right-click to change option.
[08:31] <robinl1> and can i ask you guys to help me with my project?
[08:31] <Epo^^> I didn't notice this was the wrong channel :)
[08:31] <Zjm7891> lol
[08:31] <Epo^^> sorry to have bothered you
[08:31] <Zjm7891> no problem
[08:31] <SoulPropagation> robinl1: yeah, go ahead, what's yar project?
[08:31] <cwillu> !tell cmug about dapper
[08:31] <cmug> cwillu, thanks
[08:31] <sinaduel> okay, all I am asking, is at least a link, or the name of a program. To burn my movies onto DVD's
[08:31] <Zjm7891> Its only KDE difference but I don't know KDE's GUI
[08:31] <robinl1> http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/
[08:31] <robinl1> quick and dirty explanation
[08:31] <Zjm7891> and HOLY CRAP it takes forever and a day to compile a accursed Kernel!
[08:31] <xvisor> nickrud, so you saying i should not use openoffice.org2 but openoffice.org??
[08:32] <nickrud> xvisor, yes. I got bit by that a day or two ago
[08:32] <jmartini> Zjm7891: try compiling everything like in gentoo...
[08:32] <LightBeam> please, how can I know the partition i am logged on ?
[08:32] <robinl1> SoulPropagation: read it all over, they are logs from IRC (i'm not good at explaining,but if you read the whole thing you will understand it)
[08:32] <xvisor> nickrud, ok gonna try it right away brb
[08:32] <Zjm7891> jmartini: What do you mean by that?
[08:32] <nickrud> xvisor, if you compare which package actually provides openoffice.org & ooo2, you'll see they are the same
[08:32] <cyberknarf> #ubuntu-de
[08:33] <oblib> exit
[08:33] <xvisor> ok
[08:33] <jmartini> Zjm7891: gentoo is a "from source" distro so you literally compile everything from scratch
[08:33] <thompa> tonyyarusso:  thanks, i cant seem to find it though
[08:33] <SoulPropagation> robinl1: you're only 13?
[08:33] <robinl1> yes :)
[08:33] <robinl1> after i have brushed my teeth and such i'm going to make a good site fori t
[08:33] <Zjm7891> jmartini:  Well I have to recompile the kernel to get my alps pointing device working... its just slow
[08:33] <SoulPropagation> well, major props to you for this
[08:34] <Zjm7891> jmartini:  It is currently compiling
[08:34] <robinl1> SoulPropagation: thanks ^^
[08:34] <robinl1> SoulPropagation: wanna help with it? can't do it on my own :P
[08:34] <SoulPropagation> course ^^
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> thompa: It's part of the Gnome right-click Add to panel stuff.
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'9
[08:34] <SoulPropagation> robinl1: sure!
[08:34] <robinl1> SoulPropagation: okay then! we'll talk in PM
[08:34] <SoulPropagation> alright
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4
[08:34] <cyberknarf> #ubuntu-de
[08:35] <Pegasos989> Does ubuntu automatically update to Open office 2.0.2, do I need to put some apt get install commands or download the package?
[08:36] <Rambo3> when its stable it should be auto
[08:36] <thompa> tonyyarusso:  i have cpu freq. scaling monitor, but it has no options
[08:37] <nickrud> Pegasos989, if you're on breezy and truly want 2.0.2, you'll need to look for an outside package
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> thompa: Sorry, single-click.  Frequencies > .
[08:37] <Zjm7891> How does port 8001 protect you from exploits?
[08:37] <Pegasos989> nickrud, okay, thanks
[08:37] <mementor> how do i enable cpu freq for turion64? modprobe something?
[08:38] <soundray> Pegasos989: if you're on breezy, it'll stay at what it is. When you go to dapper, it'll be 2.0.1 -- not sure if they'll go to 2.0.2.
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> Zjm7891 : prolly filters out the text that hits those affected routers
[08:38] <Rambo3> as its not root ports
[08:38] <augusto> sempreaqui
[08:38] <Rambo3> !backports
[08:38] <ubotu> hmm... backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:39] <ubuntux> augusto, brazillian?
[08:39] <augusto> nao portugues
[08:39] <ubuntux> augusto, pode conversar em portugues aqui?
[08:39] <soundray> !br
[08:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:39] <soundray> !pt
[08:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:40] <Zjm7891> What happened to english?
[08:40] <ubuntux> sorry
[08:40] <LightBeam> df -h
[08:40] <soundray> !en
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[08:40] <Zjm7891> =P
[08:40] <ubuntux> :)
[08:40] <_21h_> hello. I'm from Russia. I'm new ubuntu user :)
[08:41] <rukuartic> Great, welcome to the community _21h_ :)
[08:41] <squiddle> congratulations _21h_
[08:41] <ubuntux> ubuntu rox, _21h_
[08:41] <xanavim> 21 hours?
[08:41] <Zjm7891> Welcome
[08:41] <xanavim> oh, oops lol
[08:41] <rukuartic> Anyone know if it's possible to change the resolution of a terminal? (As in, no GDM/Xorg)
[08:41] <_21h_> xanavim, no. it's interrupt of DOS
[08:41] <xanavim> rukuartic: yes
[08:42] <_21h_> DOS API function
[08:42] <rukuartic> xanavim: Can ya point me to a link?
[08:42] <xanavim> rukuartic: you configure it in your grub or lilo settings
[08:42] <BobC2> Welcome 21h  I'll still dealing with my old wintel machine to get it ready for Ubuntu..I can't wait
[08:42] <xanavim> rukuartic: are you using grub, yaboot, or lilo?
[08:42] <LG> :S
[08:43] <Drac|Crate> How do I disable color-coded things in the terminal?
[08:43] <rukuartic> xanavim: Eh... XD Its so long since I've booted my computer I don't know... Should be grub... thats what Ubuntu comes installed default right?
[08:43] <_21h_> why grub falls to death with usb-keyboard?
[08:43] <xanavim> rukuartic: are you on ppc or x86 arch?
[08:43] <Zjm7891> has anyone tested XGL?
[08:43] <rukuartic> xanavim: x86
[08:43] <xanavim> rukuartic: then yes, grub is the default
[08:44] <soundray> _21h_: because of the BIOS. You should enable legacy mode for USB.
[08:44] <_21h_> soundray, i know it. mode is truely setted
[08:44] <soundray> Drac|Crate; try ls --color=none
[08:44] <NRG88> hi, how can i login somewhere with gnome remote desktop?
[08:44] <xanavim> rukuartic: I can't find a set in stone link... you'll have to google for the resolution you want and "grub" and "resolution"
[08:45] <xanavim> rukuartic: such as: 1024x768 grub screen resolution
[08:45] <soundray> Drac|Crate: if you like it, 'alias ls="ls --color=none"'
[08:45] <KoruptidPryde> where do I change the associations for file extensions?
[08:45] <rukuartic> xanavim: Thanks ;)
[08:45] <xanavim> rukuartic: that's how I set mine..
[08:45] <V4Vendetta> KoruptidPryde~ right click a file, go to properties then opens with
[08:45] <xanavim> rukuartic: and if you get it wrong, you'll have no backup virtual terminal so be careful
[08:46] <LinuxJones> KoruptidPryde, richt click file and open with other app. do this every time checkbox.(or whatever it's named)
[08:46] <KoruptidPryde> V4Vendetta: I want to change the association permentantly and the various data associated with the association
[08:46] <xanavim> rukuartic: be sure to have your failsafe grub setting there just in case
[08:46] <xanavim> rukuartic: or a livecd handy just in case  :D
[08:46] <Larsson-Sweden> I just got a new HD and i formatted it in reiserfs. The partition will just contain videos, mp3's and so on. No OS:es at all. Is Reiser a bad choice for this? Will i get trouble sharing my videos on DC and such?
[08:47] <rukuartic> xanavim: Eh... Haven't done much boot configuring...
[08:47] <soundray> Larsson-Sweden: your choice of reiserfs is just fine ;)
[08:47] <Drac|Crate> soundray: That works fine, but how do I make it a permanent change?
[08:47] <robinl1> Anybody wanna help with my YouBuntu project? PM me! http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/
[08:47] <Hysty> Larsson-Sweden, better than fat32
[08:47] <Hysty> ;)
[08:48] <xanavim> rukuartic: to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, you find the line that looks like kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[08:48] <psusi> reiserfs is a perfectly good linux filesystem... better than ext3 in some respects
[08:48] <soundray> Drac|Crate: add the alias line to .bashrc
[08:48] <xanavim> rukuartic: then you find the magic number you need and add it so it looks like:  kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash vga=xxx
[08:48] <Larsson-Sweden> Thanks. :) Second question: Now i want to add it to fstab so it gets mounted when i start. It is also important that my user (that is, not root) can read and write to it. What options should i write in fstab to achieve this?
[08:49] <xanavim> rukuartic: where xxx is the magic number
[08:49] <psusi> for the most part though, it doesn't really matter which one you use
[08:49] <squiddle> Larsson-Sweden  just defaults is enough, reiserfs has normal unixpermissions
[08:49] <rukuartic> xanavim: :P I just found that, but thanks. How would I set up a failsafe incase everything fell apart?
[08:49] <squiddle> Larsson-Sweden  mount it and say chmod/chown like you want
[08:49] <xanavim> rukuartic: the next configs down in grub should be failsafe "recovery mode"
[08:50] <xanavim> rukuartic: if those are there, you can recover with them
[08:50] <rukuartic> xanavim: Thanks a lot. I'm guessing this requires reboot?
[08:50] <xanavim> rukuartic: if not, don't make the change without a livecd
[08:50] <cwillu> how do I bind an action to a function key in bash?
[08:50] <xanavim> rukuartic: yes
[08:50] <Larsson-Sweden> squiddle, oh, so i can mount it with options defaults, then just chmod it? will those changes be there when fstab mounts the drive next time?
[08:50] <BobC2> Thanks for the help people!    ...CYA
[08:50] <suture1> Hmm why does it say I have 259 Prosseses and 1 Running
[08:50] <xanavim> rukuartic: you can also make copies of your configs with different resolutions to test several at once
[08:50] <squiddle> Larsson-Sweden  yes
[08:51] <xanavim> rukuartic: it usually speeds up the trial and error process a bit
[08:51] <Larsson-Sweden> squiddle, thank you! I will return if it doesent work. Thanks!
[08:51] <Jonnings> Is there some way to switch to superuser so you dont have to specify the sudo command? (sry for noob question)
[08:51] <psusi> Jonnings: sudo -s
[08:51] <squiddle> sudo su -
[08:51] <xanavim> gotta run, lunch calls
[08:52] <soundray> rukuartic, did you edit the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[08:53] <XiCillin> where can i find what nvidia driver i need for a specific card? i think i need the 7676 for 7800 GT
[08:53] <XiCillin> but i'm not sure
[08:53] <biloyp> anyone know of a keylogger for Linux?
[08:53] <soundray> XiCillin: one size fits all.
[08:53] <XiCillin> so that would work?
[08:54] <soundray> XiCillin: I think 7676 is a version number.
[08:54] <Drac|Crate> soundray: Here's a laugh. The color feature is enabled by an alias in bashrc. I actually have to comment it out. :P
[08:54] <XiCillin> the version of the driver
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?
[08:54] <soundray> Drac|Crate: I should have remembered that...
[08:54] <soundray> XiCillin: yes. You can't go wrong if you follow the wiki stuff:
[08:55] <soundray> !nvidia
[08:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:56] <biloyp> I take that as a no then?
[08:56] <DjQcZonE> hi, someone can help me with a problem with k3b ???
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> soundray : k
[08:56] <soundray> lsuactiafner: that wasn't for you :)
[08:57] <robinl1> DAMN KEY
[08:57] <robinl1> i just typed in my sentence
[08:57] <soundray> lsuactiafner: I just have bad lag at the moment. I was responding to XiCillin.
[08:57] <biloyp> DjQcZonE, what is the problem?
[08:57] <DjQcZonE> biloyp: Le programme  mkisofs  a retourn une erreur inconnue (code 1)
[08:58] <DjQcZonE> uh sorry....the program mkisofs has returned an unknown error (code 1)
[08:58] <biloyp> DjQcZonE, no spekenzie French..only Enlish and Spanish curse words
[08:58] <DjQcZonE> I can't burn cd....but I can erase it
[08:59] <biloyp> DjQcZonE...do you mean music cd
[08:59] <DjQcZonE> no data cd
[08:59] <soundray> DjQcZonE: what happens when you enter "mkisofs" on a terminal command line?
[08:59] <biloyp> hold on let me give it a try
[08:59] <biloyp> do you mean text files etc?
[08:59] <DjQcZonE> soundray: mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> thre is a differnece between nvidia and nforce, the one is the chipset, the other one is the graphics card
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> soundray : oh heh
[09:00] <LuisBG> what's ESSID and why do I think is SSID?
[09:00] <soundray> DjQcZonE: strange, you don't seem to have mkisofs. Try 'sudo apt-get install mkisofs' and restart k3b before you try again.
[09:01] <Drac|Crate> commands gtk-config and xmms-config do not exist. What do I need to install to have them?
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[09:01] <robinl1> re info on http://datablast.ath.cx/projects/YouBuntu/, if you're interested, join #YouBuntu and start contributing your ideas!
[09:01] <DjQcZonE> soundray: I tried apt-get but I already have the latest version...
[09:02] <dyrne> DjQcZonE: you might also try sudo k3b
[09:02] <DjQcZonE> I tried sudo k3b too and there is no difference :)
[09:02] <biloyp> did you install K3b via the Synaptic Pacakge manager?
[09:03] <DjQcZonE> hum....not sure but I think it was installed by default when I have installed k-destop
[09:03] <soundray> DjQcZonE: your path seems to be screwed...
[09:03] <Stormx2> Hai
[09:03] <biloyp> Dj , I don't think it comes installed
[09:03] <soundray> Drac|Crate: there is no gtk-config for gtk2. xmms-config is in xmms-dev
[09:04] <Drac|Crate> soundray: Well, I'm trying to build something that uses gtk-config. What do I do?
[09:04] <LuisBG> wasn't the drapper install going to be visually enhanced?
[09:05] <DjQcZonE> so, what can I do to solve this problem....rebooting ?
[09:05] <Drac|Crate> LuisBG: It's still in progress. Don't complain. :P
[09:05] <soundray> biloyp, kubuntu-desktop depends on k3b.
[09:06] <soundray> Drac|Crate: install libgtk1.2-dev ? I don't know...
[09:06] <LuisBG> Drac|Crate, it's not a complain :( just curiosity, want to see the new one
[09:06] <soundray> DjQcZonE: do you see any output when you enter 'echo $PATH' on the command line?
[09:07] <DjQcZonE> yes
[09:07] <Drac|Crate> LuisBG: Flight 4 runs really well. Go give it a try.
[09:07] <soundray> LuisBG: ESSID is the identification that wireless access points broadcast.
[09:08] <soundray> LuisBG, did you find a way to read ppc CPU temperatures?
[09:08] <Drac|Crate> soundray: That shouldn't interfere with future compilations that try to use gtk 2.0, should it?
[09:08] <LuisBG> soundray, still instaling the system
[09:08] <soundray> Drac|Crate: only if the programs that depend on gtk2 are really stupidly written.
[09:08] <Staz> Oh shit I just installed UBUNTU and also GRUB. Now when I boot up I get "error loading operating system"
[09:08] <LuisBG> Drac|Crate, i'm installing it right now
[09:09] <Staz> I think GRUB is screwed how can I get rid of it
[09:09] <soundray> Staz: no need to invoke excrements. Read ubotu's message about grub.
[09:09] <soundray> !tell Staz about grub
[09:09] <sbartleylinux> Is there a page that descibes how to get the ltsp packages working under dapper yet?
[09:10] <Drac|Crate> LuisBG: You'll like it. GNOME 2.15 has a lot of interesting improvements. It'll look a lot like Breezy, of course, but it'll feel a lot better, I think.
[09:10] <Drac|Crate> LuisBG: Sorry, I mean GNOME 2.13.
[09:10] <soundray> Drac|Crate: 2.*15*?
[09:10] <Drac|Crate> soundray: Typo. :P
[09:11] <soundray> Drac|Crate: I think you mean 2.14 ;)
[09:11] <Lordthundering> guys, if u use network folders in gnome, how can i use them in quanta or any other non-gnome app?
[09:11] <Drac|Crate> soundray: 2.13, technically.
[09:11] <Staz> thanks soundray
[09:11] <Lordthundering> s/network/ssh
[09:11] <Drac|Crate> Lordthundering: I'm pretty sure FTP folders are strictly a nautilus feature.
[09:11] <soundray> Lordthundering: you can only use those folders with programs that are "gnome vfs-aware".
[09:11] <Staz> Im not screwed then? :)
[09:12] <soundray> Staz: you can reinstall grub with the install CD. See the wiki instructions linked by ubotu.
[09:12] <joelw23> how do i install a dmg
[09:12] <sbartleylinux> ogra, ?you around?
[09:12] <soundray> Lordthundering: you could try mounting your folders with sshfs instead of nautilus.
[09:13] <akcom> Is ther any way to figure out what version of firmware a device is running?
[09:13] <NegativeSpace> When trying to uninstall a program and it says "There are other applications depending on this one", what does it mean, and can it still be removed?
[09:13] <soundray> akcom: it depends on the device.
[09:13] <Drac|Crate> soundray: xmms-dev installs libgtk2.0-dev, which fixes the problem. :P
[09:13] <Lordthundering> soundray, which are?
[09:13] <akcom> say an internal broadcom wireless 802.11 b/g card
[09:13] <s-wx> hp: unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpiod.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 75 Ever seen this error ?
[09:13] <soundray> Drac|Crate: ah good.
[09:14] <soundray> Lordthundering: I don't understand your question.
[09:14] <joelw23> how do i install a .dmg
[09:14] <Lordthundering> soundray, which application outside gnome itself are gnome vfs aware?
[09:15] <akcom> joelw23: that's a mac disk image, i don't believe linux supports installing those
[09:15] <joevandyk> I have ip and dns masquerading on my ubuntu box.  however, i can't ping my gateway (permission denied) after a reboot until I restart ip and dns masq.  Any ideas on why that is?
[09:15] <joelw23> ok
[09:15] <soundray> Lordthundering: I don't know. Check out my other suggestion, sshfs
[09:16] <joevandyk> does gigabit networking speed up remote X at all?
[09:16] <theskunk> yes
[09:16] <[Leo] > joevandyk: you have tu setup ip settings at startup
[09:16] <[Leo] > *to
[09:16] <[Leo] > :P
[09:16] <joevandyk> theskunk, is it noticable?
[09:16] <theskunk> anybody know how to setup a second x-session? (so i can hit alt-f2 and then login and startx again)
[09:16] <joevandyk> [Leo] , er, what?
[09:17] <xvisor> does anyone now what i need to install when getting "smb:///" is not a valid location in the file browser while trying to access microsoft network??
[09:17] <theskunk> joevandyk, depends.... i think its pretty quick already, but thats me
[09:17] <Davey> theskunk: use XNest
[09:17] <[Leo] > xvisor: dapper?
[09:17] <xvisor> leo: yup
[09:17] <soundray> joevandyk: these things are timing sensitive. You could add a script that restarts ipmasq to /etc/network/if-up.d
[09:18] <{fastlane}> hola
[09:18] <Davey> theskunk: Applications > System Tools >  New Login in a New Window (install xnest package if you don't have that)
[09:18] <{fastlane}> necesito un poco de ayuda
[09:18] <[Leo] > xvisor: you miss a package
[09:18] <{fastlane}> con mi dispositivo wifi
[09:18] <xvisor> leo: don't tell me it's a bug i can;t do anything about
[09:18] <theskunk> lemme rephrase this -- i'd like to know how to modify the screens section in my xorg.conf so that i can use a totally different .xinitrc to start the x-session.
[09:18] <NegativeSpace> Is gaim the best MSN alternative?
[09:18] <[Leo] > xvisor: gnomevfs2-extra... or something like that!
[09:18] <joevandyk> soundray, ah, thanks.
[09:18] <theskunk> NegativeSpace, yes
[09:18] <Davey> NegativeSpace: in Gnome, yes. Kopete is nicer in KDE
[09:19] <xvisor> leo: aaaahh oke i'll start searching for summat like that, thnx
[09:19] <Davey> (because it uses the same toolkit as the rest of the UI)
[09:19] <[Leo] > NegativeSpace: try amsn too
[09:19] <NegativeSpace> Okay theskunk, Davey, cheers.
[09:19] <soundray> !es
[09:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:19] <NegativeSpace> Leo, I'll check it out, thanks.
[09:19] <[Leo] > NegativeSpace: amsn supports a lot of msn features
[09:20] <biloyp> Dj, k3b worked fine for me
[09:20] <biloyp> oh he is gone
[09:21] <DoTheRodeo> is there any other CD burner than Nero?
[09:21] <linkd> DoTheRodeo: k3b is a goodun
[09:21] <f1k0ym4k4> hi
[09:21] <biloyp> DoTheRodeo try k3b
[09:21] <f1k0ym4k4> i need help! =(
[09:21] <DoTheRodeo> k3b?
[09:21] <biloyp> yeah
[09:21] <linkd> DoTheRodeo: a CD/DVD burner
[09:21] <soundray> !helpme
[09:21] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:22] <soundray> ^ I like that one :)
[09:22] <f1k0ym4k4> how can i install the amsn?
[09:22] <soundray> f1k0ym4k4: 'sudo apt-get install amsn' or use synaptic.
[09:23] <DoTheRodeo> you can burn movie with it?
[09:24] <pabea135> hi
[09:24] <f1k0ym4k4> no, i cant install with sudo apt-get install amsn =(
[09:24] <[Leo] > f1k0ym4k4: why?
[09:24] <natalie> Hello, I have another question to ask
[09:25] <soundray> f1k0ym4k4: probably because you need to activate repositories. Look out for ubotu's message
[09:25] <soundray> !tell f1k0ym4k4 about repos
[09:25] <pabea135> what hapen?
[09:26] <soundray> natalie: just ask.
[09:26] <natalie> I installed 5.10 and can only access the gdm when I am in recovery mode.  If I boot normally it just freezes.  I already tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg, just not sure what to do now.
[09:26] <nicholaspaul> i've installed Ubuntu x86 server, and then installed gnome desktop, but some of the menus are missing. how do i populate the Applications and System menus?
[09:27] <natalie> I looked through the forums, but I couldn't really find anything that helped with that issue.
[09:27] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: ubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <DoTheRodeo> linkd, im trying to burn .mp3's but it says unsupported format, etf?
[09:27] <DoTheRodeo> wtf?
[09:27] <DoTheRodeo> *
[09:27] <dyrne> natalie: you using framebuffer?
[09:27] <FunnyLookinHat> natalie, it just freezes and won't even send you to a text/console login instead?
[09:27] <nicholaspaul> bimeri: gotcha..thanks!
[09:27] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: np :)
[09:28] <dyrne> DoTheRodeo: in k3b? sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[09:28] <s-wx> Everybody is talking about my problem but nobody can give me the solution.. now wht i should do :P
[09:28] <natalie> FunnLookinHat: that is correct.  Dyrne: I do believe that I am useing frame buffer.
[09:28] <DoTheRodeo> oh nvm
[09:28] <DoTheRodeo> i just did sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:28] <joelw23> can anyone help me install sauerbraten
[09:29] <bimberi> DoctorMO: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[09:29] <bimberi> DoTheRodeo: ^^^^ (sorry DoctorMO)
[09:30] <FunnyLookinHat> natalie, sorry, but I am unsure how to fix that.  It's probably related to the line in your GRUB conf file concerning the video mode.  But I don't know which
[09:31] <joelw23> can anyone help me install sauerbraten
[09:31] <DoTheRodeo> yeah
[09:31] <DoTheRodeo> now it works
[09:31] <soundray> joelw23: http://www.basic-recipes.com/r/sa/quick2.htm ;)
[09:31] <joelw23> hahaha
[09:32] <DoTheRodeo> another, is there any video converter for linux? like .avi to .vob?
[09:33] <soundray> natalie, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want us to have a look at it.
[09:33] <soundray> DoTheRodeo: transcode
[09:33] <ddonky> DoTheRodeo - I'm late to the conversation, but transcode is pretty good for command-line
[09:33] <DoTheRodeo> is it fast? or it depends on your system?
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> DoTheRodeo : mencoder part of mplayer
[09:34] <joelw23> can anyone help me install sauerbraten
[09:34] <ddonky> yeah, that too
[09:34] <DoTheRodeo> i don't use mplayer
[09:34] <soundray> joelw23: sauerbraten.org is down at the moment, so I can't give you specific help. Maybe you can help yourself based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[09:34] <davidX-> i just let synaptic update my kernel to -10 from -9 and now i'm seeing "VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)" after reboot
[09:35] <davidX-> what should i do?
[09:35] <ddonky> DoTheRodeo - mencoder worked in real-time if i remember right, but it was a small file. .ra to .avi I think
[09:35] <rambo3> boot from older kernel
[09:35] <rambo3> and fix grub menu
[09:36] <soundray> rambo3: is that for davidX-?
[09:36] <biloyp_> anyone ever burn mp3 with k3b
[09:36] <soundray> biloyp, yes.
[09:36] <ddonky> ditto
[09:36] <biloyp_> soundray, I just tries and got a "unsupported format error"
[09:37] <davidX-> hrmm
[09:37] <bimberi> biloyp: install k3b-mp3
[09:37] <biloyp_> bimberi..ok thx
[09:37] <davidX-> the boot options in grub look the same for both kernels
[09:37] <soundray> biloyp, it's libk3b-mp3 here
[09:37] <soundray> biloyp, sorry, trying again: libk3b2-mp3
[09:37] <natalie> I posted it as Natalie's Xorg
[09:37] <rambo3> what does your system look like where is ubuntu ? davidX
[09:38] <davidX->  /dev/sda1
[09:38] <rambo3> you can edit grub on boot menu
[09:38] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?
[09:38] <davidX-> ya when i go to edit and compare -9 to -10 everything is the same
[09:38] <soundray> natalie: is it hanging at this point?
[09:39] <Tezkah> okay, so when i am in KDE and click on the battery monitor, theres an option to hibernate the laptop, and that works
[09:39] <Tezkah> is there a way i can do this outside of running that applet, like a command?
[09:39] <biloyp_> soundray..I just installed k3b-mp3..via Synaptic Package manager...same thing?
[09:40] <rambo3> ok try changing root(hd0,0) to root(hdo1,0) and make shoure that in kernel line there is root=/dev/sda1
[09:40] <davidX-> alright brb
[09:40] <natalie> soundray: what do you mean?
[09:40] <makkk> how do I make bash display the current directory path at the prompt?  (this is obviously not an ubuntu machine, since ubuntu does this automaticall)
[09:40] <soundray> biloyp, should be fine (it's probably different here because I'm on dapper atm).
[09:40] <LuisBG> the mouse (trackpad) acceleration it's at its max and it is still very very slow
[09:40] <dyrne> Tezkah: maybe apmsleep
[09:40] <LuisBG> what can I do?
[09:40] <biloyp_> soundray ahh ok, I am on breezt..ok let me give it a shot
[09:40] <raphink> makkk: set it in your .bashrc. I can send you an example of mine if you want
[09:41] <LuisBG> how do I install a bluetooth mouse?
[09:41] <Tezkah> dyrne, apmsleep: Your kernel does not support APM.
[09:41] <makkk> raphink. i thought it would be this, but i dont know the exact command
[09:41] <Stargazers> Hi. I have a problem with ATI driver fglrx on Dapper Drake with XOrg 7.0.0. It says "Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory You may override the detected version using the following syntax: X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install] "
[09:41] <raphink> makkk: it's a whole language stuff
[09:41] <raphink> makkk: come to PV please
[09:41] <soundray> natalie, was gdm hanging at the time you posted Xorg.0.log ?
[09:41] <raphink> makkk: it's too crowded here to talk about such a huge subject ;)
[09:41] <Stargazers> dmesg | grep fglrx
[09:41] <Seveas> Stargazers, use the Ubuntu provided drivers
[09:41] <raphink> lol
[09:41] <Stargazers> I tried
[09:41] <makkk> raphink, where is that?
[09:41] <Stargazers> [4294702.921000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[09:42] <Stargazers> That it what dmesg says
[09:42] <Stargazers> I have Club Radeon 7500
[09:42] <soundray> Tezkah: try 'sudo echo 4 >/proc/acpi/sleep
[09:42] <dyrne> Tezkah: sorry not really sure maybe try the --noapm
[09:42] <soundray> '
[09:42] <natalie> soundray: That is the Xorg for 5.10, unfortunately, no. I am presently on 4.1 rignt now.
[09:42] <joelw23> /home/joel/Desktop/sauerbraten/sauerbraten/bin_unix/linux_client: cannot execute: Success
[09:42] <joelw23> help
[09:42] <yacc> soundray: Modern version would be echo 'disc' >/sys/power/state or so.
[09:42] <natalie> soundray: That is the last Xorg from that drive.
[09:43] <SpComb> hmm, will the normal 5.10 AMD64 installer work on a dualcore 3800+ ? The installer loads up fine, and partitions (and unset the bootable flag on my windows partition too), but it doesn't get past 0% on the "Installing base system", says it can't get the packages off the CD, and no apt mirror configured
[09:43] <yacc> soundray: disk ;)
[09:43] <Stargazers> Seveas: On that driver it won't start X
[09:43] <Seveas> Stargazers, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <marcel> what is the best ftp server for a beginner ,  i want to do it from the command line
[09:43] <soundray> natalie: in the hanging state, can you still switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[09:43] <Seveas> (just replacing ati with fglrx is NOT enough)
[09:43] <Tezkah> soundray, bash: /proc/acpi/sleep: Permission denied
[09:43] <Stargazers> I have done it and rebooted my computer, but still it goes on text mode and dmesg says that [4294702.921000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[09:44] <SpComb> or do I need to get one with a SMP kernel?
[09:44] <soundray> Tezkah: did you forget the sudo? Also read yacc ^^
[09:44] <GTX> SpComb, You'll have to get SMP kernel man, like me
[09:44] <natalie> soundray:  No I cannot, it is completly frozen.  If I try to promt it by switching over before it finishes loading, the prompt itself will freeze after it finishes loading.
[09:44] <SpComb> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136048&highlight=installing+base+system <-- that looks like the identical error
[09:45] <Tezkah> yeah i did sudo, but i see
[09:45] <SpComb> it doesn't work without?
[09:45] <GTX> SpComb, It will work without smp just wont use the 2 cpus only 1
[09:45] <SpComb> that's not a problem
[09:45] <SpComb> trying to get it to at least install the kernel
[09:45] <LuisBG> the mouse (trackpad) acceleration it's at its max and it is still very very slow
[09:45] <rambo3> just typing server should install base system
[09:45] <SpComb> hmm, it's really shady media though, might well be corrupted
[09:46] <arnoud> hi all
[09:46] <insites> what is the normal way to mount a fat disk in ubuntu so  that it stays persistent? i used system/administration/disks to mount a vfat drive on /media/storage and it disconnects everytime i restart.
[09:46] <Tezkah> even with sudo, i am getting permission denied
[09:46] <SpComb> didn't do a md5 check on anything
[09:46] <dwight> what file p2p client would you recommend to me?
[09:46] <NegativeSpace> Downloading JRE, do I want Linux RMP self-extracting, or just Linux self-extracting?
[09:46] <SpComb> oh, and it's a bit weird that it detects my SATA disk as a SCSI disk...
[09:46] <NegativeSpace> RPM*
[09:46] <SpComb> got the partitions right though :)
[09:46] <soundray> natalie, you could try disabling gdm with 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' and see if it still freezes when you do a normal reboot and start gdm by hand (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start).
[09:46] <arnoud> I'm using an ASUS ATI graphics card, and I want to install the latest drivers. Due to the fact that I am new to Linux...... Can someone help me?
[09:46] <dwight> NegativeSpace: not RPM the other one will do just fine
[09:46] <SpComb> the stupid thing about it was that it swapped the bootable flags.... after the installer failed, windows wouldn't boot
[09:47] <SpComb> which is quite a not-good thing
[09:47] <SpComb> had to go swap the boot flags in the partitioner myself
[09:47] <NegativeSpace> dwight: Thanks dude.
[09:47] <soundray> arnoud: follow the wiki instructions as recommended by ubotu's pm:
[09:47] <rambo3> if you have network you can allways hit ctrl+c and stop apt . change sources and install from net
[09:47] <dwight> NegativeSpace: no prob
[09:47] <soundray> !tell arnoud about ati
[09:47] <robinl1> okay, my project is done.. can i spam for it?
[09:48] <SpComb> I tried burning the image twice on two cds, failed on those
[09:48] <SpComb> I guess my CD is just corrupt
[09:48] <xstation> hey
[09:48] <arnoud> hmm can you tell me where to search?
[09:48] <soundray> arnoud: look at the private message you got from ubotu
[09:49] <LuisBG> how do I install a bluetooth mouse?
[09:49] <marcel> what is the best ftp server for a beginner ,  i want to do it from the command line
[09:49] <Seveas> robinl1, no, spamming is not tolerated
[09:49] <Seveas> marcel, stop repeating
[09:49] <robinl1> Seveas: ok, and in -offtopic?
[09:49] <marcel> ok
[09:49] <Seveas> you were given answers already
[09:49] <marcel> oops sorry
[09:49] <xstation> who would the command look like in if I wanted to use the cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA in openssl
[09:49] <Stargazers> So, anyone have no any other ideas to get FGLRX work?
[09:49] <Stargazers> :'(
[09:49] <Stargazers> Ati sucks
[09:50] <Seveas> !tell Stargazers about ati
[09:50] <arnoud> thank you Soundray
[09:50] <dwight> Stargazers: yeah it does... well on Linuix it does
[09:50] <xstation> Seseas: hows it going
[09:50] <natalie> soundray:  Thanks, I'll give that a try
[09:50] <Stargazers> Yep
[09:50] <dyrne> marcel: i like vsftpd but i believe proftpd has a gui frontend you can apt-get
[09:50] <robinl1> Seveas: ok, and in -offtopic?
[09:51] <Seveas> robinl1, spam is never tolerated - you can discuss your project there though
[09:51] <Stargazers> Thx Seveas, I try to look about those links
[09:51] <SpComb> but wouldn't it be more sensible to only set the bootable flag on the ubuntu partition at a later stage?
[09:51] <robinl1> Seveas: okay, but i mean it's a simple URL.
[09:51] <SpComb> say, at GRUB install
[09:52] <Seveas> robinl1, #u-offtopic please
[09:52] <SpComb> it's just a bit silly that if it fails, you have to manually set windows to boot again
[09:52] <SpComb> and most people wouldn't know how to do that
[09:52] <tushkee> who's on Dapper now and just did an update? The OPEN/LOAD/BROWSE dialogue doesnt show up instantly, the program freezes up and resumes after a minute or two.
[09:52] <soundray> SpComb: that's why there is a support channel.
[09:52] <tarzeau> which driver do i load for linux 2.6, for my mcp high definition nvidia soundcard? 0000:00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[09:52] <SpComb> what if someone has a single computer?
[09:52] <marcel> dyrne:    thx ill try vsftpd
[09:52] <SpComb> it's not too much fun
[09:53] <soundray> SpComb: Live CD?
[09:53] <SpComb> uhm
[09:53] <SpComb> how to download/burn it?
[09:53] <SpComb> just in theory
[09:53] <SpComb> it's not fun to have a computer that doesn't boot
[09:53] <Jonnings> I get "subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2"  while trying to install automatix. Anyone familar with this?
[09:53] <SpComb> and setting a empty partition to boot isn't too nice
[09:53] <soundray> SpComb: in theory, the problem will be solved in dapper, where the install CD is also the live CD.
[09:53] <LuisBG> how do I install a bluetooth mouse? the trackpad is too too too slow, a pain just going to system
[09:54] <SpComb> huh?
[09:54] <soundray> SpComb: I would argue that installing OSs isn't for the timid, anyway.
[09:54] <TheMadGeek> Hey
[09:54] <SpComb> `the issue is that the boot flag on the windows partition is unset, and set on the soon-to-be linux partiion
[09:54] <SpComb> soundray: isn't ubuntu meant for the timid?
[09:54] <tushkee> LuisBG: you mean touchpad?
[09:54] <TheMadGeek> Can anyone tell me a cheap, external, usb modem/router that will work with ubuntu with ease?
[09:54] <TheMadGeek> And I can connect to using windows xp default networking tools?
[09:55] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, usb is not meant for networking, don't abuse it
[09:55] <LuisBG> tushkee, yes
[09:55] <tushkee> LuisBG: for the touchpad to work properly, i had to edit my xorg.conf
[09:55] <LuisBG> sorry
[09:55] <TheMadGeek> Seveas, I mean like the connect to panel in the start menu
[09:55] <LuisBG> and what did you write there?
[09:55] <soundray> TheMadGeek: go for an Ethernet router. Much, much better.
[09:55] <tushkee> LuisBG: hang on ill give you the link
[09:55] <TheMadGeek> soundray, I want to connect to the internet, I used the term networking loosely
[09:55] <prxq> hi. anyone knows how to get the coda file system working with ubuntu? I see no package for it, but some other packages reference it. (WebDAV, for instance). Any ideas?
[09:56] <tushkee> LuisBG:  are you on dapper?
[09:56] <SpComb> ethernet modem is far more flexible and useable than a usb modem
[09:56] <soundray> tushkee, LuisBG, check out the docs in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/
[09:56] <TheMadGeek> Spcomb, How do I connect one?
[09:56] <SpComb> a ethernet one?
[09:56] <soundray> TheMadGeek: Seveas is still right, and Ethernet is still the best.
[09:56] <LuisBG> tushkee, yes, just installed
[09:57] <yacc> soundray: I think we forgot the sh :( sudo sh -c "echo disk >/sys/power/state" :(
[09:57] <SpComb> a normal lan card and then as a ppp interface
[09:57] <tushkee> LuisBG, soundray, -> i followed this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=800083&postcount=3
[09:57] <TheMadGeek> SpComb, How do I find out of my computer has a lan card?
[09:57] <soundray> yacc: ahh...
[09:57] <SpComb> TheMadGeek: look at the back of it. It's like a big telephone socket :/
[09:57] <SpComb> hard to say
[09:57] <LuisBG> and how I install a bluetooth mouse?
[09:57] <soundray> TheMadGeek: look for a socket that is similar to a phone socket, but wider.
[09:58] <SpComb> TheMadGeek: http://info.pcwebshop.ch/Glossar/images/rj-45.jpg
[09:58] <TheMadGeek> Soundray, I've got one with three computers connected as an icon
[09:58] <squirrelstyle> jetscreamer --- you there
[09:58] <SpComb> yep
[09:58] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, that's a good one
[09:59] <TheMadGeek> Seveas, So I can use that for a ethernet router that will work for ubuntu and windows for connecting to the interneT?
[09:59] <soundray> TheMadGeek: you said cheap -- how much are you willing to spend?
[09:59] <SpComb> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/ might be a read (first google result for linux dsl howto)
[09:59] <TheMadGeek> soundray, Whats the cheapest for a good one
[09:59] <SpComb> hmm, verbose howtos <3
[09:59] <SpComb> whatever, I'll keep out of this
[09:59] <SpComb> I assume my CD is corrupt
[09:59] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, correct, both ubuntu and winXP will work with it out of the box
[09:59] <squirrelstyle> vmware all installed in 5.10 --- this rocks --- just installed winblows xp  >:)
[09:59] <tushkee> So anyone on Dapper who updated today and the OPEN/LOAD DIALOGUE is not responsive and hangs up?
[09:59] <emilianom> hello
[10:00] <thomass_> emi
[10:00] <TheMadGeek> So whats the cheapest for a good one, i'll probley get it off ebay
[10:00] <CarlFK> how to I change hostname so that it doesn't change back after a reboot?
[10:00] <Seveas> CarlFK, edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[10:01] <soundray> TheMadGeek: Linksys WRT54GL are good ones, and not too expensive
[10:01] <Seveas> soundray, isn't that a wireless thing?
[10:01] <emilianom_> after reboot?
[10:01] <thomass_> n
[10:01] <thomass_> no
[10:01] <thomass_> no
[10:01] <thomass_> never
[10:01] <thomass_> u noob
[10:01] <TheMadGeek> Soundray, So this will replace my ADSL usb modem?
[10:01] <CarlFK> Seveas: thanks.  I thought the hostname command set /etc/hostname.  I see now that isn't true
[10:02] <soundray> TheMadGeek: oops, Seveas is right, forget it.
[10:02] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, ah, you have a usb adsl modem...
[10:02] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, in that case you can't use any router
[10:03] <TheMadGeek> seveas So what can I do?
[10:03] <TheMadGeek> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linksys-wireless-G-Broadband-Router-WRT54G-Instal-CD_W0QQitemZ5878236758QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWD7VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[10:03] <SpComb> hmm, ppp works together with DHCP, doesn't it?
[10:03] <SpComb> so it's plug & 'play'
[10:03] <Seveas> TheMadGeek, you need an adsl router supported by your adsl company
[10:03] <tushkee> so how can i change from DHCP to STATIC IP via command line?
[10:03] <Seveas> or just use your current hardware
[10:03] <SpComb> *modem
[10:03] <Seveas> tushkee, sudo nano /etc/interfaces
[10:04] <Staz> Damn Something is REALLY screwed up :( I get "Error loading operating system" just after rebooting after installing GRUB during Ubuntu install.
[10:04] <SpComb> oh, mutliple comptuers?
[10:04] <SpComb> a second NIC is cheaper :P
[10:04] <tushkee> Seveas: thx, ill try that now :)
[10:04] <tushkee> Seveas: it's empty
[10:04] <natalie> soudray:  I removed the gdm, but it still froze at terminal prompt
[10:04] <Seveas> tushkee, ehrm /etc/network/interfaces
[10:05] <peratu> Somebody with iBook + AirportExtreme?
[10:05] <tushkee> Seveas: it worked, thx again.
[10:05] <TheMadGeek> These are my companys routers: http://www.tiscali.dslshop.co.uk/routers.asp
[10:05] <Seveas> peratu, airportextrem does not work with ubuntu breezy and earlier, works buggy with dapper
[10:05] <soundray> TheMadGeek: (ebay link) that one doesn't have a modem built in, but there is a variation that has one.
[10:05] <erisco> what is the gnome desktop referred as in the killall command?
[10:05] <[Leo] > how can i make pkg-config see a new (compiled) version of a lib?
[10:05] <[Leo] > erisco: maybe gnome-session
[10:05] <peratu> Seveas , yes, I have Dapper.
[10:06] <TheMadGeek> Soundray, would the aforemented one work with linux?
[10:06] <erisco> [Leo]  I don't want to end the session, I just want to refresh the desktop as I changed my wallpaper and I want to see the change
[10:06] <Seveas> peratu, the broadcom card (airport extreme) is not supported with Ubuntu - there are drivers for it but you need to get the firmware yourself
[10:06] <TheMadGeek> Soundray: Its usb
[10:06] <suture1> How can I change my refreshrate, the one in gnome only says 60 but i know it can be higher
[10:06] <daneturner> hello
[10:06] <soundray> TheMadGeek: check out Linksys WAG354G, e.g. on aria.co.uk
[10:06] <[Leo] > erisco: try killall gnome-panel
[10:06] <erisco> [Leo]  that is for panels though ;)
[10:07] <erisco> [Leo]  I will give the session a shot
[10:07] <Seveas> suture1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <tushkee> byez
[10:07] <erisco> [Leo]  gnome-session: no process killed
[10:07] <natalie> soundray:  I removed the gdm, but it still froze at terminal prompt
[10:08] <soundray> TheMadGeek: Speedtouch modems are kind-of supported, but it's *really* better to go for a proper router.
[10:08] <[Leo] > erisco: but why kill panel or session to refresh wallpaper?
[10:08] <peratu> Seveas , look this please. http://pastebin.com/595173
[10:08] <erisco> [Leo]  You suggested that, not me
[10:08] <[Leo] > erisco: it should refresh automatically
[10:08] <erisco> [Leo]  Is there a gui way to refresh it?
[10:08] <erisco> [Leo]  the fact is that it is not
[10:08] <erisco> [Leo]  and there must be a better way than logging out then back in
[10:08] <soundray> natalie: that's interesting. I don't think the X server is your problem at all, and it didn't look like it from your X log either.
[10:09] <TheMadGeek> soundray Okay, thats something to consider#
[10:09] <TheMadGeek> soundray Thanks for all the help.
[10:09] <LuisBG> anybody knows to to configure a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu?
[10:09] <soundray> natalie: could this be a hardware problem? Overheating?
[10:09] <Seveas> peratu, check the manpage for ifconfig, iirc you don't write it that way...
[10:09] <[Leo] > erisco: sure, but i can't help you :)
[10:09] <athlon> is it possible to run both KDE and Gnome ? but without using Xnest, but rather like virtual terminal
[10:09] <erisco> can anyone else tell me how to refresh my desktop background image?
[10:09] <natalie> soundray:  I don't really see how, I have no problems running my other version on the same computer.  Which is what I am doing right now
[10:09] <ProN00b> how can i burn .dmg files ?
[10:10] <peratu> Seveas , I can do ifconfig for other wlan device.
[10:10] <athlon> so I want to be able to switch between desktop manager easily (ctrl-alt-f7 to go to kde, ctrl-alt-f8 to go to gnome, etcetera)
[10:10] <soundray> LuisBG: bluetooth isn't ready for prime time in breezy afaik.
[10:10] <Syco54645> how can i upgrade my mozilla?
[10:10] <Seveas> Syco54645, why?
[10:10] <Syco54645> firefox rather
[10:11] <Syco54645> Seveas: because i went to 1.5 and it is using 100% of my processor when it renders pages.  i want to go to 1.5.1 to see if that helps
[10:11] <Seveas> !ff1.5
[10:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:11] <natalie> soundray:  I can also start the gdm from recovery mode and run it mostly fine.
[10:11] <soundray> natalie: can you check /var/log/syslog to see if there's an entry related to the crash?
[10:11] <Syco54645> thanks Seveas
[10:12] <Syco54645> Seveas: dumb question, but is that link down?
[10:12] <Seveas> Syco54645, works fine here
[10:12] <trappist> public away messages suck.
[10:12] <lampshade> what exactly does /etc/init.d/networking restart do?  The reason I ask is that I put my computer into hibernation, and then awaken it to find my wireless gone.  I have to manually reset it with /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant restart and then ifup eth1.  Shouldn't /etc/init.d/networking do all that?
[10:13] <Seveas> trappist, that's why there's an auto-kick on awaymsg
[10:13] <natalie> soundray:  If I post it, will you take a look at it, I'm actually fairly new to linux, so I'm still learning a lot of the things I need to know.
[10:13] <knubbe> anyone using mysql who knows if its possible to get the /include directory (with mysql.h for example) from the repository?
[10:13] <trappist> Seveas: oh I didn't even notice.  Excellent.
[10:13] <erisco> Can anyone tell me how to refresh my desktop?
[10:13] <ProN00b> how can i burn .dmg files ?
[10:14] <Syco54645> Seveas: that is odd.  maybe something with my isp, splra.org doesnt work for me either
[10:14] <trappist> knubbe: libmysqlclient14-dev
[10:14] <bolrod> .dmg = file for OS X ?
[10:14] <daneturner> I'd like to add a trusted CA Cert to Firefox for all users.  According to folks on #firefox at irc.mozilla.org the default certs are compiled in.  Is there a way to add additional CA Certs without having to touch each user's firefox profile?  I have 100 users on 50 Hoary workstations.
[10:15] <ace66> yes its a program of some sort.
[10:15] <ace66> dmg that is.
[10:15] <LuisBG> soundray, i'm in drapper and before I reinstalled my system I used the bluetooth mouse I'm trying to configure
[10:15] <bolrod> it is something like .iso..  only for mac ?
[10:15] <bolrod> :)
[10:15] <ace66> mac os x mounts dmg files when you click. under linux its meaningless as far as I know
[10:15] <LuisBG> soundray, so I know it works
[10:16] <bolrod> yes
[10:16] <mile> hi
[10:16] <bolrod> you could burn a .dmg to a file...
[10:16] <natalie> soundray:  I went ahead and posted it under my name.
[10:16] <Stargazers> Is there any smart reasons to use Xorg 7.0 instead of 6.8? I mean, 'cause 7.0 is not supported by ATI drivers but 6.8 is
[10:16] <ace66> why do you want to burn a dmg ?
[10:16] <bolrod> I dont
[10:16] <soundray> natalie: okay, I'll have a look. I have terrible lags here, so pls be patient.
[10:16] <dda> uname -r says I have 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic, but apt-cache search shows only kernel-source-2.6.11 - wrong version. Where do I get the ltest kernel-source package?
[10:17] <natalie> soundray: not a problem.
[10:17] <Klohunt> Is it easy to change the desktop icon size for all icons at the same time?
[10:18] <keherman> Anyone have issues with printing only from Acroread?
[10:18] <soundray> natalie: that's only the top of the file. Please do a 'tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog >/tmp/logtail' and pastebin /tmp/logtail
[10:18] <H4RDC0RE> hi
[10:18] <H4RDC0RE> ae
[10:18] <keherman> Kpdf works fine, since it uses the default printer and not this "print command = /usr/bin/lop" function
[10:18] <keherman> lp
[10:19] <daneturner> any knowledgeable firefox sysadmins?
[10:19] <natalie> soundray:  I posted all of today's reports in the syslog
[10:19] <soundray> natalie: pastebin accepts a limited amount only.
[10:19] <nickrud> Klohunt, you can do that with System-prefs-file manager icon view defaults, but that affects the whole system. You may need to change other folders by hand
[10:19] <knubbe> trappist: great, thank you!
[10:20] <natalie> soundray: sorry, I'll get the rest
[10:20] <trappist> knubbe: the results of apt-file search mysql.h.  apt-file is great stuff.
[10:20] <Klohunt> nickrud: I see, thanks
[10:21] <Klohunt> Just that firefox's icon is huge
[10:21] <Neth> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:21] <nickrud> Klohunt, maybe right click the firefox icon, and choose stretch if it's the only one bothering you
[10:22] <nickrud> Neth, sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[10:22] <ace66> neth: looks like your missing a c file
[10:22] <dda> uname -r says I have 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic, but apt-cache search shows only kernel-source-2.6.11 - wrong version. Where do I get the latest kernel-source package? Please advise..
[10:22] <soundray> natalie: still not the whole story. Please use the tail procedure I recommended.
[10:22] <nickrud> dda, get linux-source (a change)
[10:23] <Neth> thanks nickrud
[10:23] <ace66> dda: have you got the right repository for apt cache ?
[10:24] <dda> ace66, I run dist-upgrade and got the kernel 2.6.12, so I asume the repository is correct
[10:24] <Seveas> dda, linux-source, not kernel-source...
[10:24] <dda> trying...
[10:24] <keherman> is it too late to request a package upgrade for Dapper?
[10:25] <dda> nickrud, Seveas - thanks. seems that it will help!
[10:25] <one> help please; where is the kernel commandline found ?
[10:25] <keherman> Why isn't Adobe Acroread being upgraded in Dapper at all?
[10:25] <Seveas> one, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:25] <natalie> soundray: I did what you said.
[10:26] <keherman> staying at 7.0.1 even though 7.0.5 is out and includes CUPS support now?
[10:26] <keherman> sucks..
[10:27] <lampshade> what exactly does /etc/init.d/networking restart do?  The reason I ask is that I put my computer into hibernation, and then awaken it to find my wireless gone.  I have to manually reset it with /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant restart and then ifup eth1.  Shouldn't /etc/init.d/networking do all that?
[10:27] <antibus> does ubuntu support xen?
[10:27] <DRbr> Hey guys
[10:27] <DRbr> I need a little help here
[10:28] <nickrud> DRbr, ask, no one can help if they don't know the problem
[10:28] <DRbr> I installed Ubuntu on a old desktop(K6-2 450) and it was too slow so I installed xubuntu-desktop
[10:28] <soundray> natalie: I have two suggestions: remove the hplip-base. If that doesn't help, try booting without acpi (edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, appending acpi=off to the #kopt line; then run update-grub).
[10:28] <DRbr> but the default display manager is still gdm
[10:28] <soundray> *hplip-base package
[10:29] <DRbr> which is too heavy
[10:29] <themachine> are there any unbreakable cipher programs?
[10:29] <nickrud> DRbr, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm , I think
[10:29] <DRbr> I remember that I had used a terminal command that allowed me to choose between kdm and gdm
[10:29] <DRbr> I want to know if the same is true for xfce
[10:29] <DRbr> I already tried that and it didn't help
[10:30] <nickrud> DRbr, does apt-cache policy xdm show it as installed?
[10:30] <soundray> themachine: there is no such thing. You can brute-force any algorithm (it may take 10^100 years, though).
[10:30] <themachine> alright
[10:30] <themachine> thanks soundray
[10:30] <pragun> what software should i get to convert my .doc file to .pdf?
[10:30] <Jhair> pragun: word!?!
[10:30] <trappist> peratu: openoffice.org
[10:30] <pragun> i saw some stuff about OO printing to a pdf printer
[10:31] <trappist> Jhair: word can't do it
[10:31] <natalie> soundray: back in a few
[10:31] <pragun> but i dont have that in my printers list
[10:31] <trappist> pragun: it can expert straight to pdf, you don't need a pdf printer
[10:31] <soundray> natalie: I won't be here.
[10:31] <Jhair> oh I forgot word was crap :)
[10:31] <peratu> transgress, kde.org
[10:31] <DRbr> nickrud, let me check.... the computer is crawling
[10:31] <pragun> let me look again
[10:31] <pragun> brb
[10:31] <soundray> natalie: but there are other helpful people around.
[10:31] <pragun> ha
[10:31] <pragun> er
[10:31] <pragun> oh
[10:31] <pragun> haha
[10:31] <pragun> thanks, found it
[10:31] <pragun> didnt see it before
[10:32] <nickrud> DRbr, you could shut down X and work from a console (ctl-alt-f 1-6) until you get it straight
[10:32] <trappist> !tell pragun about enter
[10:32] <DRbr> nickrud, it wasn't installed, I dunno why though since xfce is up and running
[10:32] <DRbr> thanx, let me restart x and see what happens
[10:33] <themachine> is there some place I can get a list of all the words in the english alphabet  like a list on a text file
[10:33] <pragun> sorry trappist
[10:33] <nickrud> DRbr, if you do apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop, that will tell you what packages were installed by xubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <pragun> didn't realize
[10:33] <trappist> themachine: google for wordlists
[10:33] <pragun> anyways, thanks for the help, guys =P. i feel so silly.
[10:34] <eternaljoy> i just did an update, and get this: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:34] <eternaljoy>   totem
[10:34] <themachine> tried that for a while..
[10:34] <Super_King> hey all, what's the best solution for unpacking .rar files in Ubuntu?
[10:34] <eternaljoy> The following packages have been kept back: totem.
[10:34] <trappist> themachine: actually I think there's an app like cracklib-data or something that has a wordlist
[10:34] <eternaljoy> any fix?
[10:34] <nickrud> totem, which distro?
[10:34] <eternaljoy> trappist: hello! any ideas?
[10:34] <themachine> ah
[10:34] <themachine> thx
[10:34] <trappist> eternaljoy: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:34] <eternaljoy> nickrud: I use Breezy and today it said I have upgrades!  so I clicked install!  but at the end it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.
[10:35] <nickrud> eternaljoy, either trappist's or aptitude upgrade
[10:35] <ablomen> hey people, im compiling wine at the moment (becouse there arnt any 64bit .debs) but i get an error saying it cant find the right version of libXext, anybody had/solved this problem?
[10:35] <eternaljoy> trappist: when I type that command it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.
[10:35] <eternaljoy> nickrud: when I type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it says: The following packages have been kept back: totem.
[10:35] <trappist> themachine: sudo apt-get install wamerican-large
[10:35] <eternaljoy> nickrud: any fix?
[10:36] <trappist> eternaljoy: sudo apt-get install totem?
[10:36] <nickrud> eternaljoy, then you have something installed, that conflicts with totem's upgrade. You could try to track that down :)
[10:36] <trappist> eternaljoy: did you maybe install totem from outside the repos or something?
[10:36] <DjQcZoNE> hi, I want to know wich package is the best if I want to install programs with RPM -> alien or rpm
[10:36] <eternaljoy> trappist: trying  sudo apt-get install totem now
[10:36] <trappist> DjQcZoNE: avoid doing either
[10:36] <eternaljoy> trappist: not sure
[10:36] <brainiac_ghost> is todays (daily) cdimage going to be the same as flight 5?
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> anyone here have 5.1 speakers and asus nvidia soundcard (onboard) nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller? i dont have sound in rear and center speakers. ive installed the nforce driver, my motherboard is a/k 8n-4, anyone know of something i could read/howto?
[10:36] <Goldfisch> How do I install ubuntu on a closed network, where I don't have the packages available via Internet? I mean, they aren't all on the installl CD, right?
[10:37] <DjQcZoNE> trappist, why ?
[10:37] <eternaljoy> trappist: it says: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[10:37] <eternaljoy>   totem-xine
[10:37] <eternaljoy> !
[10:37] <ubotu> eternaljoy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:37] <trappist> DjQcZoNE: for the same reason you shouldn't install debian packages on ubuntu - packages from other distros are likely to be binary-incompatible with ubuntu and cause serious problems.
[10:37] <jetscreamer> !
[10:37] <cyphase> lol, that's funny..
[10:37] <antibus> lsuactiafner, my mobo supports that too.. and i havent been able to get it, i just duplicated front and back sound
[10:37] <ablomen> DjQcZoNE: bocouse rpms are made for redhat style distros, not for debian/ubuntu
[10:37] <DjQcZoNE> oh okay...:)
[10:37] <cyphase> "Don't pay the Microsoft tax! get a compuer with Linspire!"
[10:38] <cyphase> Get* computer*
[10:38] <ace66> Goldfish:the install should all basic requirements on disc
[10:38] <cyphase> uhh, and how about the linspire tax?
[10:38] <DjQcZoNE> and a last one question....when I download a .bin, how do I do to install it ?
[10:38] <cyphase> you run it
[10:38] <trappist> DjQcZoNE: sudo sh filename.bin
[10:38] <trappist> usually
[10:38] <DjQcZoNE> I already tried but I always got errors msg
[10:38] <Goldfisch> Is there an apt tool that handily will pull all the debs, so I can stage them on a flash drive, and then walk them in to my production network?
[10:38] <DjQcZoNE> trappist, thanks :)
[10:39] <linuxboy> can I get ubuntu ltsp help here?
[10:39] <nickrud> Goldfisch, apt-zip
[10:39] <Seveas> linuxboy, try #edubuntu
[10:39] <linuxboy> Seveas: thanks
[10:40] <antibus> nickrud, so if you use apt-zip, and you specify a flash drive as an apt-source on anotehr compy.. what you put on the flash drive using apt-zip can be apt-get install from the flash drive on another comp?
[10:40] <leafw> which is the app to detect an external monitor
[10:40] <chrisw69> can anyone tell me how to install firefox 1.5
[10:40] <antibus> nickrud, is that the way it works
[10:40] <leafw> or do I have to touch the xorg configuration ?
[10:40] <chrisw69> I'm having problems lol :\
[10:41] <nickrud> antibus, essentially, you do an apt-zip on the machine you want to install, it writes a script you can take to another manchine & run. That'll get the debs you need
[10:41] <keherman> chrisw69, whats yer real name?
[10:41] <antibus> ohh ok
[10:41] <chrisw69> chris
[10:41] <keherman> chrisw69, you can install firefox 1.5, but you have to follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <nickrud> android, it's been about 4 years since I used it, so the exact technique of installing on the original machine slips my mind, but it was simple
[10:41] <keherman> chrisw69, ward?
[10:41] <chrisw69> no soz
[10:41] <keherman> oh nm
[10:42] <chrisw69> i followed those instructions
[10:42] <Goldfisch> Bingo! apt-zip appears to be what I need. When I get home from work, I will play with it a little to get familiar with it.
[10:42] <chrisw69> and it's still running 1.0.7
[10:42] <chrisw69> when i tried to do em again
[10:42] <chrisw69> it says file exists etc
[10:42] <keherman> chrisw69, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[10:43] <chrisw69> yes.. that's what i did
[10:43] <nickrud> android, sorry, that was for antibus
[10:43] <chrisw69> I had problems
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> antibus : how did you duplicate the sound?
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> i wouldnt mind mono as much as no sound from rear
[10:43] <nickrud> Goldfisch, you might want to look at setting up your own apt repository, that might be simpler in the long run
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> private query me if possible
[10:44] <antibus> lsuactiafner, my sub has a switch to handle that.. i just flipped it, im not really sure how to do it in linux
[10:44] <antibus> nickrud, ahh, fun.
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> k
[10:45] <Jonnings> !java
[10:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:45] <leafw> external monitor howto ?
[10:45] <Jonnings> !javadebs
[10:45] <leafw> I need help there
[10:46] <deefzi> offtopic: does anyone know how much ipod mini's retail earplugs cost?
[10:46] <nickrud> deefzi, too much?
[10:47] <deefzi> perhaps on a apple store, but a "friend" of mine has several of 'em. just wondering how much could i offer
[10:47] <Goldfisch> nickrud: My goal is to load a production server with apache2 and mediawiki. Then I need to monitor for security updates and download them as they come, sneakernetting them into production.
[10:47] <nickrud> deefzi, start low, and haggle. He'll have a cutoff (so off topic :)
[10:48] <ace66> deefzi: apple earbuds are ok but not great
[10:48] <deefzi> nickrud, i was wondering about 5 euros (~6 dollars) but that's maybe too low. although he said "they suck and he never uses them" :-)
[10:48] <deefzi> ace66, they are ok for me. i'm not willing to invest much on earplugs. main headphones are more important
[10:49] <nickrud> Goldfisch, I am *not a sysadmin, but I've sneakernet'd a lot of stuff, and maybe bringing on line a test production system that you can drop and add to the net (along with the repo)
[10:49] <deefzi> which btw broke today :-(
[10:49] <nickrud> Goldfisch, as needed.
[10:49] <ace66> deefzi: bummer.
[10:50] <shiv> I just installed i810switch. Where do I look for it?
[10:50] <ace66> deefzi: I have a good set of sennheisers for home. sony earbuds for the ipod.
[10:50] <nickrud> shiv, dpkg -L i810switch | grep bin
[10:51] <Goldfisch> nickrud: I would like to, only they would never allow that. Our development lab has internet connectivity, but everything else is isolated, period.
[10:51] <nickrud> Goldfisch, ah, I see. One of those :)
[10:51] <shiv> nickrud: I installed it from synaptic so that should be done. Where do I look for it now?
[10:51] <deefzi> ace66, say no more. came from shower and noticed the right bail was broken
[10:52] <trappist> shiv: do what he said.
[10:52] <shiv> ok wait
[10:52] <deefzi> ace66, sennheiser hd500. gotta buy some epox tomorrow, although for a second i though of spending some 90 dollars for hd555:s :p
[10:52] <Goldfisch> nickrud: I carry a 1Gb flashdrive around my neck. It is no issue to write some scripts and push that stuff onto it, then walk it into the server room as needed. :)
[10:53] <shiv> this is what I got
[10:53] <nickrud> Goldfisch, I have no issue with security
[10:53] <shiv> /usr/bin
[10:53] <shiv> /usr/bin/i810switch
[10:53] <shiv> /usr/bin/i810rotate
[10:53] <shiv> shiv@ubuntu:~$
[10:53] <trappist> shiv: don't paste here
[10:53] <loz14> hey
[10:53] <nickrud> shiv, there you go, those are the commands you can run (and see trappist)
[10:53] <trappist> shiv: and run i810switch from the console
[10:53] <jetscreamer> around your neck? omg
[10:53] <ace66> deefzi: I hav an old pair of hd570s so I'm sure either are good
[10:53] <shiv> I see thanks
[10:53] <trappist> jetscreamer: I keep mine on my keychain
[10:53] <loz14> hello everbody
[10:54] <Goldfisch> jetscreamer: It's a thumb drive!
[10:54] <loz14> how can i find wha tyou guys were talking about
[10:54] <loz14> it's my first time
[10:54] <nickrud> Goldfisch is a thumbdrive kid!
[10:55] <Neth> Totem could not play 'file:///home/epic/Desktop/SCDA.mov'. any help?
[10:55] <ace66> loz: just lurk for awhile then jump in
[10:55] <Goldfisch> Well...carrying around putty and tightvnc is kind of handy! (It let's me ssh into my home machine, then vnc onto my desktop so I can IRC with you guys, from anywhere!)
[10:55] <loz14> cool
[10:55] <trappist> Goldfisch: you use vnc to irc?!!
[10:55] <shiv> nickrud: so I made both crt and lcd on. Now when I plug in my projector for presentaion i should be all set. Is that correct?
[10:55] <trappist> Goldfisch: irssi + screen man
[10:56] <Goldfisch> trappist: What is irssi?
[10:56] <leafw> anyone on how to plug an external monitor?
[10:56] <trappist> Goldfisch: console irc client
[10:56] <leafw> it's not automatically recognized
[10:56] <nickrud> shiv, I don't have an i810, so I can't really say (well, I do, but I have an nvidia installed)
[10:56] <Goldfisch> trappist: sudo apt-get install irssi?
[10:56] <tushkee> Where the heck is OpenOffice on Dapper??!?
[10:56] <loz14> can anyone direct me to channel for complete beginners like me, first week with ubuntu...
[10:56] <trappist> Goldfisch: I think it's irssi-text (which I find weird)
[10:56] <lampshade> tushkee, probably need to add .org on it
[10:56] <neiras> shiv, http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/i810.4.html
[10:56] <natalie> hello, Can anyone tell me exactly how my grub should look if I have changed it to turn ACPI off?  It looks like this right now "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb1 ro ACPI=off"
[10:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> loz14: I think this is it :)
[10:57] <lampshade> tushkee, that always happens to me at least, I forget the .org and then I can't find it in repos
[10:57] <cwillu> loz14, this is the place
[10:57] <Staz> Hey is anybody able to help out. After installing GRUB during UBUNTU install I now get a "DISK BOOT FAILURE" message
[10:57] <loz14> ok
[10:57] <cwillu> just shout out the questions, and people may or may not answer if they know :)
[10:57] <dda> back to the linux-source problem: i'm trying to compile the latest alsa drivers, and I'm getting checking for kernel linux/version.h... no
[10:57] <dda> The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[10:57] <dda> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[10:57] <loz14> i'm a quick learner
[10:57] <tushkee> lampshade: so it's not included on the install?
[10:57] <trappist> dda: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:58] <loz14> does anybody know if xgk can be stable for ubuntu users?
[10:58] <Goldfisch-irssi> Hey guys, this is interesting!
[10:58] <loz14> xgl
[10:58] <trappist> dda: after that you may need to sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux
[10:58] <siggi> how do i upgrade xorg from 6.8 to 6.9 or 7 ?
[10:58] <chimera321> goldfisch, what's interesting? ^^
[10:58] <trappist> Goldfisch: use it for a while, play with settings, check out the kinds of scripts available... you'll never go back :)
[10:58] <dda> trappist, trying now, thanks. Always wondering, how to get this info except from IRC? :)
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used Skype on dialup?  Does it work?
[10:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> loz14: It can be, although it's only abailable for Dapper which is still beta.
[10:58] <cwillu> loz14, you're new to linux you said?
[10:59] <nickrud> siggi, you would have to compile it yourself (on breezy) but waiting a month & 10 days will get it for you
[10:59] <loz14> t yep
[10:59] <Goldfisch-irssi> trappist: thanks.
[10:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/abailable/available/
[10:59] <cwillu> probably not a good idea to play with it yet :/
[10:59] <loz14> yeah i was going to uinstall the latest version
[10:59] <Goldfisch-irssi> chimera321: I am using the console version of irc. My regular freenode account is registered as Goldfisch, using X-Chat.
[10:59] <trappist> dda: experience, mostly.  you could install apt-file, run apt-file update and apt-file search linux/version.h but we couldn't really expect you to think of that
[10:59] <siggi> nickrud: ahh ok
[10:59] <cwillu> it's an experimental thing available on an experimental version of this operating system, which is still experimental for you :)
[10:59] <cwillu> that's three layers of experimental
[10:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> loz14: I wouldn't recommend Dapper until it hits release candidates... they're still making fairly big changes.
[10:59] <jaygeek> loz14: you are new to linux and me to english ;) help me I'll help you
[11:00] <nickrud> sniff* console geeks
[11:00] <chimera321> lol
[11:00] <siggi> nickrud: im totaly new to kubuntu, what is breezy ?
[11:00] <loz14> ok, ok jay
[11:00] <loz14> see you on msn
[11:00] <trappist> PuMpErNiCkLe: we release flight cds instead of release candidates, and we're on #5 I think
[11:00] <Goldfisch-irssi> trappist: Let me guess...you're favorite browser is links/lynx?
[11:00] <chimera321> siggi: the latest stable version of ububtu/kubuntu
[11:00] <nickrud> siggi, that's the elitest name for the current release of ubuntu
[11:00] <siggi> and ustable being ?
[11:00] <natalie> How do I turn ACPI off?
[11:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trappist: I thought after a certain point - when it hit feature freeze - they got called RCs?
[11:00] <siggi> unstable
[11:00] <cwillu> warty -> hoary -> breezy (current) -> dapper (latest that's not released yet)
[11:01] <chimera321> siggi: dapper #4
[11:01] <jaygeek> natalie: acpi=off on kernel parameters ?
[11:01] <trappist> Goldfisch-irssi: hehe, no - I don't even use a console email client anymore.  but with irssi + screen + bitlbee I have achieved chat nirvana and I can access it from anywhere and leave it running 24x7
[11:01] <Neth> how do i fix totem? is it broken for everyone?
[11:01] <lampshade> tushkee, No, it should come with the basic install :-/?
[11:01] <siggi> is it possible to go from breezy to dapper easily ?
[11:01] <chimera321> not yet
[11:01] <chimera321> wait till its stable
[11:01] <trappist> PuMpErNiCkLe: dapper's pretty frozen like that.  it would be disingenuous to call them release candidates since we're on a fixed release cycle.
[11:01] <Goldfisch> Okay. I'll look at that tonight, as well. :)
[11:01] <cwillu> siggi, there's a repo to do it, but again it's experimental;  when the time comes, it'll just be a 'click here to upgrade' and your done
[11:02] <chimera321> which should be soon
[11:02] <siggi> ok :)
[11:02] <natalie> jaygeek:  That's correct, it was suggested that I turn it off because it seems to be causing problems with startup.
[11:02] <chimera321> couple months at most
[11:02] <siggi> I used gentoo before
[11:02] <tushkee> lampshade: i had it like a few days before, then did an update, now it's gone. hehe funny. ah well, i grabbed Abiword instead.
[11:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trappist: They did the RC# thing for Breezy, though, didn't they? O_o
[11:03] <chimera321> btw, you're all invited to #ubuntuforums, it's lonely there:P
[11:03] <aeolist> now that you mention upgrading to dapper, have dapper's flight 4 dvd, couldnt upgrade though... needed to download 350 mb
[11:03] <Neth> or dont answer me thats good too
[11:03] <Goldfisch> I think if you put noacpi as an argument on booting your kernel, should do the trick.
[11:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trappist: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12142 for example.
[11:03] <natalie> also, what are the commands to reinstall something that has been removed?
[11:04] <nickrud> Neth, we're not sure of the problem, you weren't the first to ask
[11:04] <cwillu> natalie, should just be able to reselect it from synaptic, or sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[11:04] <trappist> PuMpErNiCkLe: ah, I guess they do one RC for either a final bugfix sprint or call-it-good-and-release-it just before the release date
[11:04] <Hysty> who here rips dvd's and what app do you use?
[11:05] <jetscreamer> don't use dvdrip
[11:05] <natalie> cwillu:  thanks
[11:05] <jetscreamer> it seems to make empty files after 2 hours
[11:05] <jetscreamer> used to work
[11:05] <Jonnings> I've installed and selected the j2re1.5-sun, but i still get a damned message saying i need java runtime environment. What am i doing wrong?
[11:05] <jetscreamer> !info avidemux
[11:05] <odat> hi everyone
[11:05] <aeolist> Hysty, if you need a quick solution, use k9copy (search google)
[11:05] <odat> anyone using dapper yet?
[11:05] <Hysty> jetscreamer, ok cool
[11:05] <nickrud> odat, #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <cwillu> PuMpErNiCkLe:  the flights are still making changes;  beta's/rc's are feature complete fixing the bugs on hundreds of random people's machines :)
[11:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trappist: ah, ok
[11:06] <Hysty> aeolist, yer just want to dump main movie and re-burn to dvd, closest thing to dvdshrink in windows is what I want
[11:06] <jetscreamer> there's a dvdshrink in linux isn't there
[11:06] <trappist> Hysty: dvdshrink runs in wine :)
[11:06] <aeolist> yes, k9copy is for you... 1 click and you are done
[11:06] <Hysty> trappist, really, excellent *insert mr burns overtone*
[11:06] <jetscreamer> all the tools you want will be in that marillat-like repo though
[11:06] <jetscreamer> what's it called?
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> dark dapper
[11:06] <trappist> there's some frontend that uses vobcopy, transcode and some other tools that tries to be like dvdshrink.  I forget what it is.
[11:07] <aeolist> Hysty, http://repos.knio.it
[11:07] <natalie> jaygeek: I modified my # kopt to look like this "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb1 ro ACPI=off"
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> How to blank screen and turn off backlight on a laptop?
[11:07] <trappist> natalie: acpi wants to be lowercase
[11:07] <natalie> trappist: Oh, okay, didn't know that, thanks.
[11:07] <jaygeek> natalie: what's kopt ? I do not know I'm running gentoo linux
[11:08] <natalie> trappist:  Is the rest of the line okay?
[11:08] <NegativeSpace> Does it matter were I install JRE?
[11:08] <tushkee> tonyyarusso: nice question. anyone shares something here? it's funny that when it blanks screen, it only turns black and the backlight is still ON. hehe
[11:08] <natalie> jaygeek:  it's the automatic options for the kernel
[11:08] <shiv> I have the Mcrosoft trips and streets with GPS device. I am trying to use that with GPS software to completely switch to linux. This is the only thing pending now. I tried GPS drive it did not work with the pharos device. ANy help on that please?
[11:08] <dancingmonkey> preferabily where you tell the browser it will be.
[11:08] <trappist> natalie: not if it's in your menu.lst
[11:09] <dancingmonkey> most of the time in ENV somewhere
[11:09] <Hysty> aeolist, awesome,..cheers
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> tushkee: Exactly.  And I don't really want my laptop being a really expensive nightlight, but still wanted it open.
[11:09] <natalie> trappist:  all right, how would I change that to turn off the ACPI?  I think it may be causing my problem with start up.
[11:10] <DjQcZoNE> what is the best way for me to configure my local network ( File sharing et Internet sharing ) between my ubuntu and a Windows 98 machine... ? (Is there any graphical tools who can do this)
[11:10] <s|k> which is the shared directory where I can put images that other users can also access?
[11:10] <NegativeSpace> dancingmonkey: Excuse my stupidity, but where is that?
[11:10] <trappist> natalie: I misspoke, sorry.  Yes, the rest of the line is correct.
[11:10] <timmy334> has anybody gotten xgl/compiz working on a mobility radeon x600?
[11:10] <edan> how do i past errors?
[11:10] <tushkee> tonyyarusso: exactly, coz the "lid closing" function is still really buggy, i always end up forcing my laptop to restart when it wont come alive again.
[11:10] <natalie> trappist: thank you.
[11:10] <trappist> natalie: that is, the syntax is correct - I have no idea if sdb1 is really your root device.
[11:11] <natalie> trappist:  it is in this instance
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> tushkee: Actually, the lid function works fine for me, I just wanted it open.
[11:11] <edan> can anyone tell me how do i past errors?
[11:11] <tushkee> tonyyarusso: it works at times for me. but if i let it for long, like overnight, the morning after it wont light up anymore. :(
[11:12] <chimera321> #UBUNTUFORUMS IS ALMOST EMPTY WE COULD USE MORE PEOPLE TO FLAME IN HERE
[11:12] <tushkee> so guys, BLANK SCREEN just turns the monitor black and it doesnt turn if OFF?
[11:12] <Jhair> uh?
[11:13] <rob> chimera321, don't do that
[11:13] <biovore> tushkee: yup, check power managment.. monitor should turn off after 20 mins or so
[11:13] <skit> Hello
[11:13] <loz14> see ya boys n girls, time to get some beers!
[11:14] <trappist> chimera321: please don't yell.
[11:14] <ion_> rob: why not ?
[11:14] <chimera321> ok
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> I know there's a command to blank the screen; what is it?
[11:14] <rob> ion_, its annoying for one thing
[11:14] <chimera321> could some more of you pretty please join #ubuntuforums for a more relaxed discussion about non-ubuntu stuff?
[11:14] <rob> chimera321, use #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[11:15] <WildTangent> but we <3 #ubuntuforums :P
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I'm having some issues with irssi, back in a flash for anyone about to answer my question...
[11:15] <chimera321> ya
[11:15] <skipt> Hello everyone ...
[11:15] <skipt> Has someone XGL runing ?
[11:15] <chimera321> #ubuntuforums FTW!!!
[11:16] <skipt> Under an ATI 9200 ? for example ?
[11:16] <ubuntux> gnome was written in C?
[11:16] <NegativeSpace> Should the JRE be installed to /usr/local?
[11:16] <WildTangent> i shall take my leave now...
[11:16] <ion_> tonyarusso:perhaps your question is my as well....
[11:17] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, you'd be better off getting something from !javadebs
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> ion_: Sounds like we should start a club.
[11:17] <ion_> tonyarusso:any time....my friend...
[11:17] <trappist> tonyyarusso: in X or console?
[11:18] <Celestianpower> I'm still having trouble
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> trappist: Either.
[11:18] <trappist> tonyyarusso: in a real console try setvesablank on
[11:18] <ion_> tonyarusso:you see we are three already...
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> trappist: Anything special to bring it back afterwards?
[11:18] <shiv> How do I make terminal transparent?
[11:19] <NegativeSpace> nickrud: Sorry but I'm really rather stupid, what's javadebs?
[11:19] <trappist> tonyyarusso: setvesablank off :)
[11:19] <nickrud> !javadebs
[11:19] <ion_> tonyarusso:we growing fast....:)
[11:19] <nickrud> argh
[11:19] <nickrud> !tell NegativeSpace about javadebs
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> trappist: setvesablank on didn't do anything...
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> ion_: Yep!
[11:20] <trappist> tonyyarusso: in X, xlock blank should do it
[11:20] <one> i edited /boot/grub/menu.lst so that nonaltoptions=lapic pci=biosirq but dmesg still says local apic disabled by bios - - you can enable it with 'lapic'.  Is this a grub bug ?
[11:20] <Celestianpower> tristanmike: Are you still here?
[11:20] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, if you got that message, go to Seveas
[11:20] <trappist> one: does /proc/cmdline reflect your grub changes?
[11:21] <Celestianpower> Can someone help me with Synaptic - it won't work
[11:21] <Celestianpower> Please
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: same issue?
[11:21] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yes
[11:21] <Celestianpower> :'(
[11:21] <Seveas> rob, thanks for kicking the spammers
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> trappist: My suspend script uses 'vbetool dpms off' to do it.  I discovered that 'vbetool dpms on' is a bad idea though.
[11:21] <rob> Seveas, np
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ok Celestianpower please paste me your sources.list so i can start there
[11:22] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: It's on there - I'll find it
[11:22] <Neth> The Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:22] <Neth> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[11:22] <ion_> tonyarusso:because I'm useing irssi right now but I don't how to use properly....
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: please paste me what you have in there now
[11:22] <Neth> thats the farthest i've gotten in fixing totem
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> trappist: Although that's exactly what's in resume.sh
[11:22] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Cheers dude.
[11:23] <U2-buntu> Anyone know how to install Freenet?  It hangs when I follow the wiki on the Ubuntuforum site...
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> trappist: Done manually on its own I got a screen that just cycled through colors and I had to hit the power button.
[11:23] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9978
[11:24] <nuke> U2-buntu> go to the freenet website and read install instructions
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> ion_: My irssi issue was by doing something dumb before I read the clarification in some #ubuntu-offtopic bantering...
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: can you please paste exactly whats in the list now also
[11:24] <ardchoille> If a friend hooks up her Windows box to my switch, is there a way for me to open nautilus and browse that computer?
[11:24] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: That's what it says right now
[11:24] <biloyp> anyone ever use a keylogger called "uberkey"
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ok hold on i wanna try something :)
[11:25] <U2-buntu> nuke: I have...can't find anything that answers my question...it hangs when I run the "sh start-freenet.sh" command...
[11:25] <rob> biloyp, take it elsewhere please, off topic
[11:25] <ddonky> ardchoille - yes if samba is installed and running on yours
[11:25] <Neth> biloyp why would you wanna keylog? HMMM?
[11:25] <biloyp> rob, where
[11:25] <rob> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <ardchoille> ddonky: oh, so it's samba that I need?
[11:25] <ddonky> yes
[11:25] <biloyp> Neth... problem with gf daughter
[11:25] <biloyp> ok rob thx
[11:25] <nuke> U2-buntu and why does he hang? whats the output?
[11:26] <ardchoille> ddonky: thanks
[11:26] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Please do
[11:26] <Celestianpower> )
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: what does uname -r say?
[11:26] <amonroy> for some reason I am getting this errror when trying to ssh to my ubunutu box "Kerberos authentication disabled in SUID client". It happened all of the sudden.
[11:26] <ion_> tonyarusso:well for example I don't waht I can do with irssi I mean how to run properly.....
[11:26] <amonroy> could I have been hacked?
[11:26] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: uname -r?
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Detected freenet-ext.jar
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Detected freenet.jar
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Sun java detected.
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Done
[11:26] <U2-buntu> cousindaddy@EDS:~/freenet$ os.arch = i386
[11:26] <U2-buntu> Loading native...
[11:26] <rob> bah, don't paste
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: in terminal type uname -r
[11:26] <ddonky> er
[11:26] <Hysty> aeolist, thanks for that k9copy link, it works sensationally well
[11:27] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: 2.6.12-10-386
[11:27] <kwame> Hi, I just installed my laptop, it gives me 1024x768 resolution, but it supports 1400x1050, how can I change that?
[11:27] <Neth> biloyp if you have a legit problem you should just buy a keylogger from a retailer. thatd be the easiest solution. the bought ones prolly work better than any hackers leylogger
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell kwame about resolution
[11:27] <aeolist> :D
[11:27] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Sorry for being a pain
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: do me a favor and clear everything out of your sources.list and paste the one from the link i will be giving you
[11:28] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: No problem
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: let me know when your ready
[11:28] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I'm ready now
[11:28] <kwame> How do I find out what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ok here you go http://pastebin.com/595330
[11:29] <ion_> tonyarusso:sorry to ask but what you wanna do with your irssi ?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !version
[11:29] <ubotu> well, version is 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue'
[11:29] <wastrel> that's new
[11:29] <kwame> tonyyarusso, thanks for the help :) reading the url
[11:29] <biloyp> Neth..ok thx I found a hardware solution but I would also like to get this to work just because
[11:29] <kwame> In fedora I did a cat /etc/redhat-release, but don't know how to get that here in Ubuntu
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> ion_: Actually that was more of a side note.  My main question now is the blanking.  For a bit there I had it not scrolling, and only showing the most current line of text.
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: after you paste the bottom white part into you file save close and run sudo apt-get update and let me know :)
[11:30] <Seveas> kwame, /etc/lsb-release
[11:30] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I am lame. How did you get the debs for e17, please save me having to figure it out
[11:30] <nuke> !resolution
[11:30] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:30] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud
[11:30] <recon00> I'm looking for a freeware 2D movie maker, preferably easy to use. Any HELP?
[11:30] <kwame> Seveas, thanks! one more question, is  Breezy the newest version?
[11:30] <Staz> When Dual Booting XP and UBUNTU, In the UBUNTU install should the XP partition be set as "bootable" ?
[11:30] <ion_> tonyarusso:well so do I...
[11:30] <Seveas> kwame, Breezy is the latest stable
[11:31] <nuke> Staz no
[11:31] <Neth> biloyp well since ive had no use/need/experience with keyloggers i guess i cant help you. i have failed you...and stuff
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> kwame: Current, yes.  Dapper April 20th.
[11:31] <kwame> Seveas, cool!
[11:31] <gnomefreak> nickrud: went to the repo (site) and each package there is 4 things hold your mouse over it look at bottom it will tell you if its a deb or a tar or whatever it is
[11:31] <Staz> thanks nuke
[11:31] <biloyp> Neth..nah not at all..good suggestion
[11:31] <NegativeSpace> How do I set Firefox 1.5 to be the default browser?
[11:31] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, don't be too certain about the date - sabdfl wants to postpone
[11:31] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Same as before
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> Staz: I believe that's correct, yes.  That's how my dual-boot is.
[11:31] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: "0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] "
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: please paste the errors you are getting as of right now
[11:31] <Celestianpower> Then nothing
[11:31] <Neth> biloyp alright cool. you're the first person i've gotten to help on this chat
[11:31] <Seveas> Celestianpower, your dns is broken
[11:31] <ion_> tonyarusso:did you look on the irssi's  web page ?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> on pastebin
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Oh yeah?  I hadn't heard anything about that.  What's up?
[11:32] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yeah, obviously
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: did you see what Seveas said?
[11:32] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yes
[11:32] <Celestianpower> DNS?
[11:32] <Celestianpower> Sounds serious
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: If it's after the 29th I have to wait for ShipIt, b/c that's when I lose my school internet and go home to dialup.
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> ion_: Nah, just restarted it.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> not sure what it stand for off hand
[11:33] <gnomefreak> server i know :)
[11:33] <recon00> Does anybody know of a freeware 2D movie maker (kinda like flash)?
[11:33] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: So how do I fix it?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Seveas: dns = dynamic name server?
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> Celestianpower: Dynamic Name Server I think.  The thing that takes www.google.com and makes it an IP address.
[11:34] <Celestianpower> Oh but how do I acces the internet then?
[11:34] <wastrel> dns is domain name system
[11:34] <Celestianpower> I can surf all I like - and chat here
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> Celestianpower: wastrel could very well be right as well.  I believe I have the function correct anyway.
[11:35] <Celestianpower> tonyyarusso: But if that's broken - hoe can I be accessing the internet right now?
[11:35] <Celestianpower> *how
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> Celestianpower: That I don't know.
[11:35] <jimakos> hi everyone
[11:35] <Celestianpower> tonyyarusso: lol
[11:35] <Celestianpower> :P
[11:35] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  are you using dhcp or manually configured network?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: open up ff and go to www.google.com
[11:36] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Okay
[11:36] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Done
[11:36] <SpComb> the same computer connects to freenode and resolves archive.ubuntu.com to 1.0.0.0 ?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: answer wastrel
[11:36] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  dns = domain name system  :] 
[11:36] <Celestianpower> wastrel: DHCP I think
[11:36] <docgnome> is there a tool to convert from ogg to mp3?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: 'k.  I stand corrected.
[11:36] <Celestianpower> tonyyarusso: Audacity should do it
[11:37] <SpComb> what do you get if you go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[11:37] <Celestianpower> *should = does
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> Celestianpower, you using a router?
[11:37] <Celestianpower> nomasteryoda: Yes
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> Celestianpower: What?
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> ah, that's doing it for you ...
[11:37] <shiv> when I boot I see 2 kernels. How do I get rid of the old one? Will this mess up things?
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> i love my router
[11:37] <Celestianpower> tonyyarusso: Audacity, the program
[11:37] <SpComb> what does it a router have to do with dns?
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> audacity rocks!
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> Celestianpower: Do what though?  What are you referring to?
[11:37] <Celestianpower> nomasteryoda: I know
[11:37] <NegativeSpace> Egad, I type "su" at the terminal and enter my password only to be given an Authentication Error.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> shiv: you would get rid of it in synaptic but its not hurting anything by being there
[11:37] <SpComb> Celestianpower: what do you get if you go to http://security.ubuntu.com/ ?
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> SpComb, it grabs them from the network and feeds it when asked by the pcs
[11:38] <SpComb> no
[11:38] <nomasteryoda> mine does
[11:38] <shiv> gnomefreak: should I keep it then?
[11:38] <Celestianpower> tonyyarusso: Sorry, wrong person
[11:38] <SpComb> what does a router have to do with resolving security.ubuntu.com to 1.0.0.0 ?
[11:38] <SpComb> nothing
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> shiv: You can also take it out of the grub menu only if you want, but I just leave them there just in case.
[11:38] <Celestianpower> docgnome: Audacity'll do it for you
[11:38] <gnomefreak> shiv: i would it being there isnt helping or hurting you if you remove it theres no telling
[11:38] <g3nocide> can someone please send me xorgconfig
[11:38] <gnomefreak> SpComb: go into your router setting and look for dns
[11:38] <gnomefreak> its there
[11:38] <Celestianpower> SpComb: Index of /Ubuntu
[11:39] <shiv> hmm I see. I will leave it then
[11:39] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  so if you do something like  "host example.com"  at the command line - does it return an IP address?
[11:39] <nomasteryoda> mine resolves to 82.211.81.138
[11:39] <g3nocide> i cant start x and setting it up using dpkg-reconfigure isnt working
[11:39] <SpComb> gnomefreak: that's the setting for the dns server
[11:39] <SpComb> hmm
[11:39] <SpComb> that's weird, now
[11:39] <SpComb> http proxy?
[11:39] <docgnome> Celestianpower: yeah but i have a lot of files to do it to and would prefer soemthing i can tell to do everything in a dir
[11:39] <themachine> what plays .mov?
[11:39] <g3nocide> SpComb: can you send me xorgconfig ?
[11:39] <SpComb> how can firefox resolve it right, but apt-get can't?
[11:39] <nomasteryoda> mplayer, xine
[11:39] <SpComb> g3nocide: no... why do you ask?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> SpComb: good now if the dns settings are messed up whats gonna happen?
[11:39] <nomasteryoda> firefox with mplayerplug-in
[11:39] <Celestianpower> docgnome: Oh okay
[11:39] <SpComb> firefox won't be able to reslve anything
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Do you have more info about what you said before?  I'm curious now.
[11:40] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Yes
[11:40] <gnomefreak> try pinging it
[11:40] <SpComb> but since it can...
[11:40] <Celestianpower> I'll pastebin the result
[11:40] <SpComb> there is something weird
[11:40] <SpComb> everythign should just use the standard dns stuff, which uses /etc/resolv.conf
[11:40] <Celestianpower> wastrel: http://pastebin.com/595372
[11:40] <g3nocide> SpComb: because i need it to properly set my horizontal/vertical refresh rates, because using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isnt working
[11:40] <SpComb> adnimistrator: that's so mispelled!
[11:40] <g3nocide> i cant startx at all
[11:40] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, check the mailinglist archive for ubuntu-devel-announce
[11:41] <g3nocide> i get the no signal/blank screen/sync out of range message from my monitor
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell g3nocide about fixres
[11:41] <SpComb> asking random people seems pretty desperate
[11:41] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: And stuff pings
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Okay, where will I find that archive?
[11:41] <SpComb> and no, I don't have X configured
[11:41] <mnemnonic> I have a question regaring double layer dvd writing ... anyone ever written a souble layer?
[11:41] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html
[11:41] <mikebot> hey guys, i think easy ubuntu messed up my audio drivers, so iw as wondering if anyone knows how tog et rid of the error "failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10" in xmms
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Thanks.
[11:41] <SpComb> Celestianpower: hmm, possibly try a apt-get update? that seems like something very, very weird
[11:41] <siggi> I just cant install mplayer by using apt-get, anyone know how i can ?
[11:41] <SpComb> or do you happen to use a http proxy?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> he cant update
[11:42] <SpComb> twisted
[11:42] <Celestianpower> SpComb: Tried update thingy loads of times
[11:42] <Celestianpower> SpComb: http proxy?
[11:42] <SpComb> that a very silly thing
[11:42] <Celestianpower> No idea
[11:42] <d> i have a problem with install 5.10
[11:42] <SpComb> as in, do you use a http proxy? if you do, you would have configured it yourself. so you probably haven't
[11:42] <d> it got stuck on 44% and i had to reboot
[11:42] <Celestianpower> SpComb: Okay
[11:43] <d> any way to continue ? (this was after the cd was ejected)
[11:43] <SpComb> bah
[11:43] <gnomefreak> d: make sure the md5sum is correct
[11:43] <NegativeSpace> I have a folder /usr/share/java -- should I install the JRE there?
[11:43] <d> ganadist it is
[11:43] <gnomefreak> d: what speed did you burn it on?
[11:43] <d> i need to resume install coz it takes ages to start over
[11:43] <mikebot> hey guys, i think easy ubuntu messed up my audio drivers, so iw as wondering if anyone knows how tog et rid of the error "failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10" in xmms
[11:43] <Staz> Can someone please please please help me ? :( I get "Error loading operating system" on bootup. I have just installed GRUB during UBUNTU install.
[11:43] <wastrel> you can set a proxy for apt i believe.
[11:44] <SpComb> Celestianpower: as I'm sure everyone else is
[11:44] <d> speed was 16x
[11:44] <d> cd's are 32x
[11:44] <Celestianpower> SpComb: Oh lol
[11:44] <gnomefreak> d: try burning it at like 2 if you can
[11:44] <siggi> I want to install mplayer with apl-get but it cant find it, what do i need to do ?
[11:44] <d> it said i could continue where i left off but there were no option to do so
[11:44] <ProN00b> why does ubuntu suck so much
[11:44] <d> is there  away to continue install ?
[11:44] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Do you have any more suggestions?
[11:44] <wastrel> !tell siggi about mplayer
[11:44] <mikebot> !paste
[11:44] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:44] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  so example.com will resolve for you?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ProN00b: this is not the time nor the place for that please take it to #offtopic
[11:45] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Oh ummmm
[11:45] <NegativeSpace> I have a folder /usr/share/java -- should I install the JRE there? Or does it not matter where?
[11:45] <d> gnomefreak is there a way to resume installation ?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: im almost tempted to say reset the router
[11:45] <gnomefreak> d: no
[11:45] <d> then why did it say i could?
[11:45] <Celestianpower> wastrel: I'll pastebin
[11:45] <SpComb> it's not the router.....
[11:45] <d> it said u can retry aggain but there was no option
[11:45] <mnemnonic> @NegativeSpace: Yes that's the right place
[11:45] <d> now it just boots to login screen in prompt
[11:45] <mikebot> last night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9979
[11:45] <gnomefreak> d: i dont remember ever being able to resume install after taking disk out
[11:46] <Celestianpower> wastrel: http://pastebin.com/595389
[11:46] <SpComb> the router only gives the dns server ip over DHCP, gnomefreak
[11:46] <ramza3> with emacs, where is site-lisp normally located
[11:46] <NegativeSpace> mnemnonic: Cheers dude.
[11:46] <d> ok is SSHD default run on first boot? i need to know because i am leaving the officd
[11:46] <d> office
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: has this happened from the beginning? or is this something that happened the other day
[11:47] <mikebot> last night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9979
[11:47] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Well, the beginning was the other day
[11:47] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  something's weird- you can resolve names but i'm not sure what that malformed message packet error means.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: it has never worked?
[11:47] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: It never worked, no
[11:47] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Yeah :(
[11:47] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  your DNS is g00fy.  i also recommend resetting your router
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: i know your gonna hate this but i would reset router if that doesnt work re-install :(
[11:48] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I can't reinstall :(
[11:48] <Celestianpower> *can't = don't want to
[11:48] <Celestianpower> wastrel: So long as I can get the internet back afterwards
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: what type of install did you do?>
[11:48] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: My friend installed by CD
[11:49] <Celestianpower> But he has the CD
[11:49] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  what do you have in /etc/resov.conf
[11:49] <peipei> hi al
[11:49] <peipei> hi all
[11:49] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Nought
[11:49] <NickGarvey> hi
[11:49] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Nothing at all
[11:49] <Jonnings> I've installed and selected the j2re1.5-sun, but i still get a damned message saying i need java runtime environment. What am i doing wrong?
[11:49] <mikebot> last night i got easyubuntu, with the help of some members of this chat, and this morning, when i open synaptic, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9979
[11:49] <peipei> some one have test xgl ?
[11:49] <lampshade> I want to install anew kernel but I'm scared about messing up my video drivers I already have installed :-/
[11:50] <gnomefreak> wastrel: if the friend set up a domain in the network menu could that cause this?
[11:50] <SpComb> woah
[11:50] <mnemnonic> @mikebot: Probably you have to put the install CD in your drive ....
[11:50] <gnomefreak> peipei: yes and its garbage
[11:50] <SpComb> Celestianpower: /Etc/resolv.conf is blank?
[11:50] <nomasteryoda> lampshade, then don't if you compiled them
[11:50] <SpComb> *etc
[11:50] <Celestianpower> SpComb: Yes
[11:50] <SpComb> that's not a good sign :O
[11:50] <SpComb> that would explain some things
[11:50] <SpComb> although it wouldn't explain why firefox works
[11:50] <Celestianpower> Oh good
[11:50] <Celestianpower> lol
[11:51] <SpComb> next step is figuring out what should be in there....
[11:51] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  try putting the line   nameserver <your router IP address>    in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:51] <peipei> gnomefreak, i have a breedzy badger can i have xgl ?
[11:51] <SpComb> WHAAT?
[11:51] <SpComb> router != DNS server
[11:51] <gnomefreak> peipei: no
[11:51] <wastrel> SpComb:  a lot of routers run chaching dns
[11:51] <SpComb> how would that work?
[11:51] <SpComb> really?
[11:51] <peipei> gnomefreak, what version must i have ?
[11:51] <djm62> yep
[11:51] <SpComb> that's interesting
[11:51] <SpComb> never seen that before
[11:51] <djm62> izzat not how DHCP works?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> peipei: dapper and its not worth the upgrade to be fully unstable
[11:52] <SpComb> DHCP tells the dhclient what to put in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:52] <gnomefreak> peipei: i advise waiting til atleast april
[11:52] <SpComb> and that's all
[11:52] <lampshade> nomasteryoda, I didn't compile them per say, but I did download them from the ATI website and somehow installed them like that, I d on't quite remember how I just followed one of the guides in the forums
[11:52] <mnemnonic> Has anyone ever written double layer DVD ?
[11:52] <SpComb> Celestianpower: you need to figure out (from your ISP/admin) what your DNS servers are
[11:52] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Done
[11:52] <SpComb> or, if you have this silly router, then put that in there
[11:52] <peipei> gnomefreak, april you says ... All right. That is not much long
[11:52] <Celestianpower> 192.168.1.1
[11:52] <nomasteryoda> lampshade, ic
[11:52] <nomasteryoda> just find the site and follow guide
[11:53] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  try again to run a host / nslookup / dig
[11:53] <peipei> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:53] <NegativeSpace> Um, I'm the only user on Ubuntu but I don't have root access, how can I get it?
[11:53] <SpComb> dig @192.168.1.1 google.com
[11:53] <aeolist> i finally did it! i hacked 127.0.0.1
[11:53] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Host does the same thing as it did before
[11:53] <cwillu> sudo
[11:53] <wastrel> !tell NegativeSpace about root
[11:53] <SpComb> aeolist: congratulations!
[11:53] <cwillu> NegativeSpace:   sudo <command>
[11:53] <djm62> NegativeSpace: use sudo.  the syntax is "sudo commandtorunasroot
[11:53] <SpComb> try hacking 127.45.7.43 next
[11:54] <NegativeSpace> Cheers guys.
[11:54] <aeolist> :D
[11:54] <peipei> gnomefreak, what do you think about ogg video codec ?
[11:54] <lampshade> nomasteryoda, I guess my fear is that, once installing the new kernel, I might break something with the old kernel and its install of ATI.  If I knew for sure that messing around with the new kernel and following the guide wouldn't interfere, I would be ok with doing it
[11:54] <SpComb> Celestianpower: what does it say?
[11:54] <SpComb> or are you busy pinging out :/
[11:54] <wastrel> Celestianpower:  still that malformed packet error?
[11:54] <Celestianpower> wastrel: Yes
[11:54] <SpComb> hmm, malformed packets now?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> wastrel: wouldnt he need to reboot?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> after changing the resolv.config
[11:55] <SpComb> rebooting stuff might be a option... but a blank /etc/resolv.conf also says something
[11:55] <gnomefreak> conf
[11:55] <wastrel> gnomefreak:  i don't believe so - couldn't hurt :] 
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> when i use mplayer -channels 6 and i play a file that has 6 channels 4/5 of my 5.1 speakers work. but when i play a 2 channel file only 2/5 speakers work, is there somethin i can tweak in alsa to detect 2 channel sound to make it use the other speakers also?
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> How to change the amount of time sudo caches your password?
[11:55] <SpComb> if it doesn't work with the DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf, start rebooting :P
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf now?
[11:55] <SpComb> you might have a smelly NIC/router ?
[11:55] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[11:55] <Celestianpower> No need to pastebin that
[11:56] <gnomefreak> is that you routers ip?
[11:56] <SpComb> hmm
[11:56] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: Yes
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: i know that
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ok Celestianpower try reboot
[11:56] <SpComb> Celestianpower: try dig @192.168.1.1 google.com
[11:56] <jjs01h> how can i configure xorg to do 1920x1280 on this lcd display (its the native resolution). it runs a max of 1600x1200 instead. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detects it as generic and sets it to do 1920x1280 but then x crashes if there isn't something to fall back on when that fails :
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Celestianpower: would still reset router
[11:56] <SpComb> try dig first
[11:56] <SpComb> just to check if the router is a caching DNS server
[11:56] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: SpComb Pastebinning now
[11:57] <gnomefreak> easier to do it all at once than spend an hr trying to figure out (oh damn all i needed to do was reset router)
[11:57] <jjs01h> i don't know the timings. they  were "unavailable" in windows.. an inspiron 6000 btw
[11:57] <nuke> !tell
[11:57] <Phoul> Umm
[11:57] <gnomefreak> while your pastbinning im going for a smoke
[11:57] <Phoul> How do i get wmv's working
[11:57] <Celestianpower> SpComb: http://pastebin.com/595408
[11:57] <Phoul> I checked ubutnu restricted
[11:57] <Phoul> And its not there
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Phoul about codecs
[11:57] <SpComb> aha
[11:57] <javi__> alguien habla espaol?
[11:57] <Celestianpower> gnomefreak: I'll reset my router then
[11:57] <SpComb> Celestianpower: perfect... if it doesn't work with that in resolv.conf, reboot ;)
[11:57] <Phoul> gnomefreak,
[11:58] <Phoul> How do i get them exactly
[11:58] <SpComb> as in, tried the apt-get again?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Phoul:
[11:58] <nuke> how can i see what ubotu "knows"?
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Phoul: read the pm ubotu gave you
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> javi__: ^
[11:58] <SpComb> if you are running chclient, be aware that that overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[11:58] <SpComb> *dhclient
[11:58] <Phoul> w32codecs
[11:58] <javi__> si?
[11:58] <Phoul> I have that one
[11:58] <Phoul> !easysource
[11:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> nuke: Sorry nuke, that was wrong.
[11:58] <Celestianpower> Well, see you in a moment while I reset the router and reboot
[11:59] <nuke> tonyyarusso ok
[11:59] <SpComb> I'm still confused how firefox managed to resolve stuff witha  empty resolv.conf :/
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> !searchthebotforwhatitknows-Ihopethisfactoiddoesn'texist
[11:59] <cwillu> tonyyarusso:  I think its an option in sudoers
[11:59] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> nuke: ^^
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> cwillu: Okay, will look there.
[11:59] <nuke> lol