[01:22] <iGotNoTime> You know this seems very unstable maybe you guys can help figure out why
[01:23] <iGotNoTime> First I lost my Gnome-terminal and only xterm would work
[01:23] <iGotNoTime> then I lost the drive that were mounted while I was out to lunch
[01:23] <iGotNoTime> the system time is set not to synch yet changes at all hours
[01:24] <iGotNoTime> and lastly I have now lost the add programs option
[01:24] <iGotNoTime> the things that are lost flash momentarily but no GUI
[01:24] <Burgwork> have you confirmed that it is not hardware?
[01:24] <iGotNoTime> Burgwork, you may laugh but I listened to an MP3 went to lunch and all drive shortcuts were gone
[01:24] <iGotNoTime> disappeared from my desktop
[01:25] <iGotNoTime> how do I know if it is hardware?
[01:25] <iGotNoTime> why would hardware make it say Gnome-terminal is not found?
[01:25] <Burgwork> random things crashing might be
[01:26] <Burgwork> you are running 5.10, no?
[01:26] <iGotNoTime> yes 5.10
[01:26] <iGotNoTime> even Synaptic does nothing when I click on it
[01:26] <Burgwork> is this a stock install?
[01:26] <iGotNoTime> that is a core feature of this OS is it not?
[01:27] <iGotNoTime> yes completely
[01:27] <iGotNoTime> I only installed Skype
[01:27] <Burgwork> is this a workstation or thinclient?
[01:27] <iGotNoTime> but drives, clock and terminal was gone before Skype came in
[01:27] <iGotNoTime> Workstation
[01:30] <iGotNoTime> Burgwork, no big deal. I thank you for allowing me to rant
[01:30] <iGotNoTime>  :)
[01:31] <iGotNoTime> Have a nice night everyone! :)
[08:04] <linuxboy> ogra_
[08:18] <z2274743> hi there
[08:18] <Burgundavia> salut z2274743
[08:19] <z2274743> hey, im new to ubuntu and edubuntu =)
[08:19] <Burgundavia> well, welcome
[08:19] <z2274743> just wondering - is there any way of running both ubuntu and edubuntu on the same machine, and having 2 user accounts - one for adults and one for children?
[08:19] <z2274743> because that would be very cool
[08:20] <linuxboy> anybody here know anything about PXE booting for ltsp?
[08:21] <enyc> xoop
[08:21] <linuxboy> what?
[08:21] <enyc> linuxboy: ?does you macihne definittyly PXE boot okay from another PXE boot server that definitely already works ?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> z2274743: yes
[08:22] <linuxboy> enyc: I'm trying to get a PC to boot with a PXE boot floppy
[08:22] <Burgundavia> z2274743: they are basically the same
[08:25] <enyc> linuxboy: I know that
[08:25] <enyc> linuxboy: Id try a different combination of network-card/machine to boot from the network
[08:25] <linuxboy> enyc: I can't
[08:25] <enyc> linuxboy: or try a different boot server
[08:25] <enyc> and see what changes... process of elimination ;-)
[08:26] <linuxboy> I can't
[08:26] <enyc> well vmmmmgh
[08:26] <z2274743> what are the differences between ub and edub then?  just the apps that are pre-installed, and the skins?
[08:26] <Burgundavia> z2274743: both of those
[08:26] <Burgundavia> theme is the word
[08:27] <z2274743> themes, sorry...  are you involved?  im interested in getting involved in some way
[08:27] <enyc> z2274743: there is a different base package installed which installs a different base set of packages.......
[08:27] <linuxboy> enyc: in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf I have: "filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";"
[08:28] <linuxboy> enyc: but /ltsp/pxelinux.0 doesn't exist
[08:28] <z2274743> ok, so thats the only difference?  thats cool
[08:28] <enyc> linuxboy: thats probably relatife t a tftp root or something
[08:28] <linuxboy> enyc: where is the tftp root?
[08:28] <Burgundavia> z2274743: edubuntu also includes ltsp
[08:29] <enyc> z2274743: ubuntu kubuntu edubuntu ubuntu all use the same package store....
[08:29] <Burgundavia> enyc: but edubuntu and ubuntu both use GNOME
[08:29] <enyc> linuxboy: im not really familitar with pxe booting
[08:29] <z2274743> ok, great, thanks
[08:29] <enyc> Burgundavia: I know that [????] 
[08:30] <Burgundavia> enyc: just wanted to make certain you didn't confuse z2274743
[08:30] <enyc> linuxboy: erm paste you dhcpd.conf somewhere...
[08:30] <z2274743> thank you.  do you know of any way i can get involved?
[08:30] <linuxboy> enyc: I thought you didn't know ltsp
[08:30] <enyc> linuxboy: Ill try these things after dapper released ;-)
[08:31] <z2274743> im using dapper now, seems to work great
[08:32] <enyc> I thought flight-5 was going to be built shortly...
[08:32] <Burgundavia> enyc: delayed due to an error with espresso on ppc
[08:32] <Burgundavia> z2274743: http://www.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu
[08:34] <enyc> Burgundavia: aah ok....
[08:34] <z2274743> burg: thanks.  how are you involved now?
[08:35] <Burgundavia> z2274743: I do documentaition, marketing, hot air producing
[08:35] <z2274743> b: nice one
[08:36] <z2274743> b: thanks for that.  im off now
[08:39] <enyc> Burgundavia: ?what do you know about plans for openoffice.org ver 2.0.2 and flight-5?  [http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 mentions openoffice.org 2.0.2 but thats not in the package database on packages.ubuntu.com] 
[08:40] <Burgundavia> enyc: 2.0.2 should be there. It got uploaded yesterday I believe
[08:40] <enyc> Burgundavia: afher the Upstream Version Freeze... but very sensible!
[08:41] <enyc> Burgundavia: have all the problems with AMD64 etc. gone away since vor 2.0 upstream ?
[08:41] <Burgundavia> enyc: .0.2 is very much a bug fix release
[08:41] <Burgundavia> no idea
[08:44] <enyc> Burgundavia: no matter ;-)
[09:56] <enyc> '0000
[03:13] <Tachyon[] > hi