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RiddellTm_T: there's no .orig12:13
Tm_TRiddell: hum :o01:08
Tm_Tah, original upstream source01:09
Tm_Tcoming rightaway01:10
Tm_TI knew I forgot something01:10
Tm_Tbah01:15
Tm_Toh well, doing things twice is also twice as much fun ;)01:16
Tm_TRiddell: I'm uploading new set of files :)01:38
Tm_Toh01:41
Tm_TRiddell: hmm, what exaclty you need?01:43
Tm_Twhat files01:43
RiddellTm_T: .orig, .diff, .dsc01:48
Tm_Tah01:52
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Tm_Thum, looks like I have to do things hard way :/01:52
RiddellseaLne: could you try the latest kdelibs to see if it fixes that avahi problem?01:52
Tm_Talso learn hard way01:52
RiddellTm_T: what's the problem?01:52
Tm_Tnah, forgot that orig file at first place from build01:53
Tm_Tand then.. I don't know, I do clean build from start :p01:54
Tm_Tthis is exactly what you get when you can't sleep01:54
rraphinkargh *01:54
rraphinkanyone with a ppc here?01:54
Riddellrraphink: not just now but in general yes01:55
rraphinkI've got a big encoding issue after update01:55
rraphinkand tonio doesn't hav eit on i38601:55
rraphinkI can't type stressed letters01:55
rraphinkthey show as squares01:55
rraphink01:55
rraphinkcan you see them?01:55
rraphink01:56
rraphinkRiddell: can you see letters here or only squares?01:56
Tm_Trraphink: Isee letters01:56
rraphinkreally?01:56
rraphinkweird01:56
rraphinkI see squares01:56
rraphinkand if I commit these characters on kopete it crashes 01:57
rraphinkcrashes the connection to teh jabber server that is01:57
rraphinknot sig 1101:57
Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59558601:57
Tm_Tbah01:57
raphinkwell I'm stupid I could tell from here01:58
raphinkI can read wha tI typed from the other comp01:58
raphinklol01:58
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raphinkand I can read on the ppc what I type here01:58
raphinkthat's weird01:59
raphinkI just can' tsee wha tI type when I type it on the ppc01:59
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raphinkand apps don't like them either01:59
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raphinkhaving fun Tonio_ ?02:00
Riddelllooks good to me02:00
raphinkah02:00
Tonio_raphink: I'm testing konversationrc for you ;)02:00
raphinkok toma_ ;)02:01
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raphinkah a marche :)02:01
Tonio_raphink: tabs on bottom for me.......02:02
Tm_Thah, have to first run ./configure and then start building :p02:02
Tm_Toh well...02:02
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rraphinkthere02:03
rraphink:)02:03
rraphinkbetter 02:03
rraphinkwhat a lag!02:04
raphink-powerbootoo long02:04
raphink-pbook:)02:04
Tm_Taah02:11
rraphink-pbookprudence is a good thing02:11
rraphink-pbookbetter register enough links ;)02:11
raphink-pbook:)02:11
raphinkhehe02:12
Tm_Tthis is strange, didn't accept kopete_0.12-beta1.orig.tar.gz02:12
raphinkwhat reason did it give?02:12
Tm_T"orig directory is not in format program-version" etc02:13
Tm_Tsomething like that02:13
raphink-pbookthat's clear enough imo02:13
raphink-pbookthe folder in the orig tarball should be named kopete-0.12beta102:13
Tm_Tit is02:13
raphink-pbookobviously it is not02:13
Tm_Taaaah!02:14
Tm_Tyou're right02:14
raphink-pbooksure02:14
raphink-pbookif soyuz says it02:14
Tm_Ttwo "-" there02:14
raphink-pbookit can't be wrong on such a basic test ;)02:14
raphink-pbookhehe02:15
raphink-pbookyeah you used kopete-0.12-beta102:15
raphink-pbookthat can't work ;)02:15
Tm_Tnot my idea ;)02:15
raphink-pbookhehe02:15
raphink-pbookpolicy02:15
Tm_Tok, so I have to change that everywhere?02:15
raphink-pbookhow do you mean everywhere?02:15
Tm_Tlike in changelog etc etc02:15
raphink-pbookits just in the directory02:15
Tm_Tah ok02:15
raphink-pbookwell you shouldn't use 0.12-beta1 in for the binary anyway02:15
raphink-pbookyou should use 0.11.99+0.12beta102:16
raphink-pbookimo02:16
raphink-pbookfor versioning reasons02:16
Tm_T0.11.92 :)02:16
Tm_Tyou're right02:16
raphink-pbookyes 92 02:16
raphink-pbookso correct this too02:16
raphink-pbookkopete-0.12beta1 is fine for the dir02:16
raphink-pbookand 0.11.92+0.12beta1-0ubuntu1 for the binary version02:17
raphink-pbook;)02:17
Tm_Tthanks02:17
raphink-pbookdi nada02:17
raphink-pbook:)02:17
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raphink-pbookwhat is last packaged version Tm_T?02:18
raphink-pbookhi Hobbsee02:18
Tm_Traphink-pbook: what you mean?02:18
Hobbseehey raphink-pbook 02:18
raphink-pbooklast version of kopete02:18
Tm_Tin repository, or in here or...02:19
raphink-pbookah it's 4:3.5.1 ...02:19
Tm_Tyup02:19
raphink-pbookobviously02:19
raphink-pbook;)02:19
Hobbsee0.1102:19
Tm_T0.11.102:19
Tm_T;)02:19
raphink-pbookwell not in the repository, since it's officially in kdenetwork02:19
Tm_Tbinary version is finally defined in "changelog" file?02:21
raphink-pbookcontrol02:21
Tm_Tah!02:21
raphink-pbookwell the version sorry02:21
raphink-pbookthe version is in changelog02:21
raphink-pbookthe name of the binary is in control02:21
raphink-pbookhehe02:21
Tm_Tyup02:21
Tm_Tyou're trying to confuse me, aren't you?!02:21
raphink-pbooknope I'm tired 02:21
raphink-pbookslept 2 hours last night02:21
raphink-pbookand it's 2:20 AM now02:22
Tm_Tso "version" in changelog is something like this: 5:0.11.92+0.12beta1-0ubuntu102:22
Tm_Tright?02:22
raphink-pbookyes02:22
Tm_Tok02:22
raphink-pbookthat's what has to be in the brackets02:23
Tm_T"kopete (5:0.11.92+0.12beta1-0ubuntu1) unstable; urgency=low"02:23
Tm_Tfirst line in there02:23
Tm_Tnow renaming dirs...02:23
Tm_Thmm, I can't just rename dir inside tar.gz :o02:24
Tm_Thow sad02:24
raphink-pbooknope02:24
raphink-pbooknot unstable02:24
raphink-pbookTm_T: distribution is not unstable02:25
Tm_Tdapper?02:25
raphink-pbookof course ;)02:25
Tm_Tah that's distribution part02:25
raphink-pbookunless you're packaging it for sid02:25
Tm_Tnot yet02:25
raphink-pbookhehe02:25
Tm_Tmaybe later ;)02:25
raphink-pbookok02:25
raphink-pbookor you're packaging it for yourself02:25
raphink-pbookin which case "twity" is also a good name fo rthe distribution02:25
Hobbseehehe02:25
raphink-pbook;)02:26
Tm_Tor "raphink's special"02:26
raphink-pbookhmm sure02:26
Tm_Thmm, too long02:26
raphink-pbookif you want to make it a tribute to me somehow02:26
Tm_Tjust "raph"02:26
raphink-pbookfor a reason I'd ignore02:26
Tm_T=)02:26
raphink-pbook;)02:26
Tm_Taye aye sir!02:26
Tm_To702:26
raphink-pbooklol02:26
Tm_Twhat's next...02:26
raphink-pbookwhat's next is what's after02:28
raphink-pbook;)02:28
raphink-pbookgrrr02:28
raphink-pbooksome stupid .doc file had my konqui crash on me in gmail 02:28
raphink-pbookgrr02:28
Tm_T=)02:29
raphink-pbookwhile I was chatting on it02:29
raphink-pbooklol02:29
raphink-pbookstupid formats02:30
Tm_They, is this stupid thing to do, in control file: Standards-Version: 3.6.202:30
raphink-pbookmhm02:30
raphink-pbookis this package a new one you're doing from scratch?02:31
raphink-pbookor is it based on a sync from debian?02:31
Tm_Tfrom scratch02:31
raphink-pbookok02:31
Tm_TI already asked from debian ml but they directed to ask about it from myself02:31
Tm_Tso I have to do one man show here ;)02:32
Tm_Tso, it's ok?02:32
raphink-pbookabout what you asked, sure02:32
raphink-pbookdoesn't mean the rest is02:32
Tm_Tok02:32
raphink-pbook;)02:32
Tm_Thaha02:32
raphink-pbookI'd suggest you review your package yourself a bit ;)02:32
raphink-pbookhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing02:33
raphink-pbookTm_T: if you don't know the page already, you can refer to it02:33
Tm_Twell, the first version of package installed and worked fine this far02:33
raphink-pbookdoesn't mean it's good in regards to policy02:33
Tm_Taye02:35
raphink-pbookalthough I certainly prefer a package that works and is not perfect on policy stuff*02:35
raphink-pbookto a package that is totally nice in regards to policy and doesn't work ;)02:36
raphink-pbookthe latter being not very useful to the distro somehow02:36
Tm_Thmm, that's nice page02:37
raphink-pbookthanks02:38
raphink-pbookit's made to be more informative than nice, but I'm glad you like it02:38
Tm_Thmm, so, this package is not in debian nor in ubuntu ofcourse (I'm talking about only 0.12 version)02:39
raphink-pbookmhm02:40
raphink-pbookwould you like me to put it on my repo?02:40
raphink-pbookso people can try it out02:40
Tm_Twell, andre^off already host it :)02:41
Tm_Tin his repo02:41
raphink-pbookok as you wish :)02:41
Tm_TI'm not saying you can't have it too ;)02:41
Tm_TI don't care as long as people wo needs it gets it02:41
raphink-pbookwell it's open-source, so if I want to host it I'll do ;)02:41
raphink-pbooks/I'll do/I will/02:42
Tm_T...do I get some money from it?02:42
Tm_T] ;=02:42
raphink-pbooklol02:42
Tm_Tbah, keep working ->02:42
raphink-pbooklol02:42
raphink-pbookTm_T: http://www.mrmiddleamerica.com/uploaded_images/pony-769979.jpg02:43
raphink-pbooksorry ;)02:44
HobbseeLOL!02:44
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raphink-pbookhehe02:46
Tm_Traphink-pbook: =)02:46
Tm_Traphink-pbook: marry me?02:46
raphink-pbookyou're a girl?02:47
Tm_Tif you like so02:47
raphink-pbookdon't take it bad, but I don't plan on marrying anyone but a woman you see02:47
Hobbseeoh dear...did i switch into #ubuntu-offtopic without noticing lol?02:48
raphink-pbookno02:48
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raphink-pbookofftopic is much more serious a place02:48
Hobbseehehe02:48
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raphink-pbookTm_T: hmm I see... 02:49
Tm_Thaha02:50
Tm_Tjust cidding02:50
Tm_Tk02:50
raphink-pbookHobbsee: only people who come once in a while and do nothing are not allowed to go offtopic on a channel ;)02:50
Tm_Tbah, whatever02:50
Tm_Traphink-pbook: what's this REVU thing02:50
Hobbseehehe02:50
raphink-pbookothers are allowed to take a fun time from work 02:50
raphink-pbookTm_T: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU02:50
raphink-pbookTm_T: it's not hard to search on the wiki you see02:51
raphink-pbookyou put REVU in the field, press OK02:51
raphink-pbookor even you click on the link that refers to it02:51
raphink-pbookyeah the pbook is all clean and soft and smooth :)02:52
Tm_Thaha02:52
raphink-pbookhehe :D02:52
Tm_Tyoure "funny"02:53
Tm_T;)02:53
raphink-pbookwhat's this "funny" for ?02:53
Tm_Tnicer wayto say "smartass"02:54
Tm_Tbut ignore me, I need proper sleep02:54
raphink-pbookI need sleep too02:55
raphink-pbookwhere are you from Tm_T,02:55
raphink-pbook?02:55
Tm_TI wonder, since when all text in Konsole started to jump up and down02:55
raphink-pbookfinland02:55
Tm_TFinland yes, from East :)02:55
raphink-pbookTm_T: since you programmed yourself a virus?02:55
Tm_Twhat?!02:56
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raphink-pbookTm_T: there's east finland?02:56
Tm_Thttp://worldwide.kde.org/02:56
Tm_Tuse interactive map ;)02:56
raphink-pbookoh you're a kde dev02:56
Tm_Talteast trying to be02:56
raphink-pbookargh java02:56
raphink-pbookhaven't installed java yet02:56
Tm_Thaha02:57
raphink-pbookI'll try on the i38602:57
Tm_TI'm more talker than doer02:57
Tm_Tbut yes, I have done something :)02:57
raphink-pbookwhat have you done?02:58
raphink-pbookwho can have their names on this map?02:58
Tm_Twell, Kopete 0.12 ... ;)02:58
Tm_Tnoidea02:58
raphink-pbookwell you are part of these though02:58
raphink-pbookthere's a kind of big blank in France02:59
Tm_Talso I try to help with Kids Office when we start to do that02:59
raphink-pbookright where I currently live02:59
Tm_T:)02:59
raphink-pbookobviously the majority of devs are german 02:59
raphink-pbookin europe02:59
Tm_Theh02:59
Tm_Tnot enough from Finland imho02:59
Tm_Tshame02:59
Tm_Tbut I can make something for it03:00
Tm_Tand I will03:00
raphink-pbookyou do much better than latvai03:00
raphink-pbooklatvia03:00
raphink-pbookdo'nt worry03:00
raphink-pbookyou're two in finland, it could be much worse ;)03:00
raphink-pbookha03:00
raphink-pbooknot even03:00
raphink-pbookmore03:00
Tm_Ttwo?!03:00
raphink-pbookthere are more in the south03:00
Tm_Tyup, more like, uhm 803:00
raphink-pbookthat I had not seen03:01
raphink-pbookI thought they were in estonia03:01
Tm_T:p03:01
raphink-pbookcause it's all mixed when names get on one another03:01
Tm_Ttrue03:01
raphink-pbookand when tireness get my eyes to mix, too03:01
raphink-pbooktireness or tiredom?03:01
raphink-pbookhmmm03:01
Tm_Ttireness03:01
raphink-pbookok03:01
Tm_T"tiredom" sounds afwul03:02
raphink-pbooklol03:02
raphink-pbookjust like boredom :p03:02
raphink-pbookbut boreness sounds even worse03:02
Tm_Tbut as you see, I nearly live in, err, Siperia?03:03
raphink-pbookno way03:03
raphink-pbookyou're very far from it03:03
Tm_Thaha03:03
raphink-pbook;o03:03
raphink-pbookI've been to moscow some years ago03:03
raphink-pbookloved it there :)03:03
Tm_Tyou're right, it's only about a meter of snow in here03:03
raphink-pbookin winter, sure03:03
raphink-pbookbut in the summer, siberia is very hot ;)03:04
raphink-pbookwell depends what parts of siberia, too ;)03:04
Tm_Tand quite warm too, -22,9 C03:04
raphink-pbooka friend of mine married a girl from there :)03:04
Tm_Tyay!03:04
raphink-pbookI was in moscow with him, long before he knew her03:05
raphink-pbook7 years ago 03:05
Tm_Tyou'll see some nice photos as soon as I re'start my blog03:05
raphink-pbooksounds like an eternity ago03:05
raphink-pbookah good03:05
raphink-pbooki've restarted blogging too03:05
Tm_Ta/'/-/03:05
raphink-pbookspent last night working on my blog :)03:05
Tm_Thehe03:05
raphink-pbookhttp://www.raphink.info :)03:05
raphink-pbookwordpress does a great job :)03:05
Tm_TI'm not sure what I should use03:06
Tm_Tserendipity last time03:06
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raphink-pbookHobbsee: as you wish ;)03:06
Hobbseehehe03:06
Tm_Tbut when we moved database server, I lost it03:07
Hobbseei should though03:07
raphink-pbookTm_T: ah :(03:07
raphink-pbookHobbsee: why should you?03:07
raphink-pbookHobbsee: if you wanna blog, try wordpress, it's set in 5 minutes and it rox :)03:07
Tm_Traphink-pbook: there was three or five entries from last year, so no real loss03:07
Hobbseebecause it seems like everyone else has a blog or whatever03:07
Tm_Theh03:07
Tm_Tyup, but don't worry, it will go away03:08
raphink-pbookHobbsee: yeah, especially whatever03:08
Tm_Tlike tamagotchi03:08
Hobbseehehe03:08
raphink-pbookhmm03:08
raphink-pbookI wouldn't like to see planet.tamagochi.jp03:08
raphink-pbookwith lots of tamagotchis from lots of people03:09
raphink-pbookgathered in the same place03:09
raphink-pbookthat would be scary03:09
Hobbseeraphink-pbook: and that'd be cool :P  (from your blog, that is)03:09
raphink-pbooknope :p03:09
raphink-pbookanyway03:09
raphink-pbookit's 3AM03:09
raphink-pbooktime to go to bed for me03:09
raphink-pbook;)03:09
raphink-pbookciao03:10
Tm_Tnoooooooo03:10
Tm_Tit's 0410 here03:10
raphink-pbookTm_T: :p03:10
Hobbseesleep is for wusses :P03:10
Hobbseestaying up all night is far more fun :P03:10
raphink-pbookTm_T: I slept from 5:30 to 7:30 last night03:10
Tm_Traphink-pbook: that's much03:10
Tm_Ttoo much ;)03:10
raphink-pbookhaving spent the night on thinking of the best way to embed my CV on my blog03:10
raphink-pbooklol03:10
Hobbseehehe03:11
raphink-pbookI used iframes in the end03:11
raphink-pbookembedding pdf in iframe dealt with css looks very nice :)03:11
raphink-pbookhaven't tested it on IE *cough* *cough* yet *cough*03:12
Tm_T=)03:12
raphink-pbookso if anyone has a copy of this *cough* program *cough* and can tell me if it works, I'll feel good to go to bed03:12
Hobbseewho uses it anyway?03:12
Hobbseepft lol03:12
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raphink-pbookknowing stupid people who can't install good browsers can view my CV03:12
raphink-pbookHobbsee: HR use it... 03:13
raphink-pbookfor example03:13
Hobbseeno...wait...maybe i do...somewhere...after a reboot....03:13
Hobbseetrue03:13
raphink-pbookhahaha03:13
Hobbseewhich reminds me - must grab portable firefox!!!!03:13
raphink-pbooksomeone it matters to me that HR can see my CV ...03:13
Hobbseethanks for that!03:13
raphink-pbookhehe ;)03:13
raphink-pbookI've got safari on reboot...03:13
raphink-pbookhaven't tested it in safari03:13
raphink-pbookI guess I'd need acroread to get it embed, just like w/ FF or IE03:14
raphink-pbookKonqui rocks :)03:14
raphink-pbookhe can use kpdf to embed it without using any closed-source app :)03:14
raphink-pbookhehe03:14
raphink-pbooks/he/it/03:14
Hobbseeit.  yep.  gotta remember about those green furry bug-eyed monsters that like go looking at blogs...03:15
raphink-pbookyou mean blogremlins?03:15
Hobbseethem too03:16
raphink-pbookanyway03:20
raphink-pbookI'm off*03:20
raphink-pbooklater03:20
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Tm_Traphink-pbook: http://www.tm-travolta.net/kde/kopete/0.12/ is getting new stuff03:34
Tm_Twhat else to you Hobbsee ?03:35
HobbseeTm_T: huh?03:36
Tm_Tyeah, I'm talking to you03:36
Hobbseei dont understand the question03:36
Tm_Twhat's up03:36
Hobbseereading the newspaper, looking vaguely at my computing assignment...thinking about how it's due for a checkpoint on monday...03:37
Tm_T:)03:37
Hobbseeand thinking about how it doesnt work as intended03:38
Tm_Tyou're student?03:38
Hobbseesomething's screwing up with it, and i'm not sure what that something is yet03:38
Hobbseeyes03:38
Tm_Tstudying what and where03:38
Hobbseeoptoelectronics at macquarie university, in sydney03:40
Tm_Tsounds fun03:40
Hobbseeyeah03:40
Hobbseeit is03:40
Hobbseehope i'm not the only person doign it though03:40
Tm_TDegree Programme in Business Information Technology <- yay03:42
Tm_Tsounds bad, and it defiantely is03:42
Tm_T"lets use more MS Office"03:42
Tm_Tabout all we do03:42
Tm_Tthis is supposed to be polytechnics03:43
Hobbseehehe03:44
Hobbseegreat03:44
Tm_Tyeah, really boring, really frustrating, really waste of time03:47
Tm_Tad I don't really have any options03:47
Tm_Tsounds good03:47
Tm_Tjolly good indeed =)03:47
Hobbseeah ha!  mailing list stuff is interesting!03:48
Tm_Tcan't be 03:53
Hobbseethe one about delaying dapper is...03:55
Tm_They, forward it to kubuntu-devel03:56
Hobbseeit was on kubuntu-devel03:56
Hobbseethat's where i read it...03:56
Tm_TI don't see it03:56
Hobbseeoh grrr!03:59
Hobbseewhere the heck did it go????03:59
Hobbseeall right, it's gone fishing somewhere - i did read it on kubuntu-devel - either that or kubuntu-users - but i'm pretty sure it was on -devel04:00
Hobbseesomeone's been munching on my email...04:01
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Tm_Theh04:05
Tm_TI can't see it in ubuntu-devel list in here either: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-March/04:06
Hobbseeit definetly was in one of those... - kubuntu-users, or kubuntu-devel04:06
Hobbseebut as for where...that i cant seem to find04:07
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seaLneRiddell: i won't be able to check kded/avahi till monday as i still have breezy at home, if someone else wants to chack all they need to do is stop avahi-daemon06:32
Lathiatthat reminds mei was goign to take a look at that06:33
freeflyinganyone can file a bug on skim for it can automatically start up in en_US locales06:44
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robotgeekfreeflying: has someone filed a bug yet, i can file one now09:40
robotgeekBug #3442209:46
Ubugtumalone bug 34422 in scim "scim starts automatically on en_US locale" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3442209:46
freeflyingrobotgeek: thx09:49
robotgeekmaybe not against scim?09:49
freeflyingrobotgeek: assigned to skim , not scim09:50
robotgeekgrr, sorry09:50
freeflyingrobotgeek: deb http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/archive/ ./09:50
freeflyingrobotgeek: add this to your sources.list09:51
freeflyingand upgrade 09:51
robotgeekfreeflying: if i already removed it from my menu entry, would that help?09:51
freeflyingrobotgeek: before upgrade , delete th file about skim in &HOME.kde/share/config/09:51
Tm_Trobotgeek: I'll take it back, more investigating, in aminute..09:52
robotgeekTm_T: kk09:52
Tm_Trobotgeek: no any "nvidia settings" here09:52
robotgeekTm_T: meaning?09:53
Tm_Tbecause "nvidia-settings" package in dapper is not "installable"09:53
Tm_Tif I install it, I lose nvidia-glx09:54
Tm_Tsooo09:54
robotgeekTm_T: workarounds, etc?09:55
robotgeekfreeflying: hmm, dist-upgrading, can take about 10 mins09:56
Tm_TI think "nvidia-settings" binary is included in nvidia-glx package :o09:56
robotgeekTm_T: is that a bug or a feature :P09:56
Tm_Tbut doesn't appear to menu09:57
Tm_Tso, just open it thru run dialog09:57
robotgeekokay, cool. 09:58
Tm_Tno idea what is default shortcut to it09:59
Tm_TI have win+r here09:59
robotgeekalt + f209:59
Tm_Tok10:00
robotgeekfreeflying: i deleted .kde/share/apps/skimrc, before dist-upgrading, skim is back 10:04
freeflyingrobotgeek: ?10:05
robotgeekfreeflying: in the system tray10:05
freeflyingrobotgeek: after del the file andupgrade skim , it will startup again ?10:05
robotgeekfreeflying: yes. what is the command to verify the policy?10:06
freeflyingrobotgeek: I'd try again 10:06
robotgeekfreeflying: hmm, i don't have a skimrc even :P10:07
freeflyingrobotgeek: without skimrc , it will not start up automaticlly10:08
robotgeekfreeflying: hmm, but it did 10:08
freeflyingCategories=Qt;KDE;Utility;10:08
freeflyingX-KDE-autostart-after=panel10:08
freeflyingCategories=Qt;KDE;Utility;10:08
freeflyingrobotgeek: X-KDE-autostart-condition=skimrc:General:Autostart:true10:09
robotgeekfreeflying: where do i check this again?10:10
robotgeekfreeflying: lots of bug acitivity, i think better to change it ?10:17
freeflyingrobotgeek: you mean scim ?10:17
robotgeekyes, from scim to skim?10:17
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freeflyingrobotgeek: change what ?10:18
robotgeekfreeflying: the bug was assigned to scim, it should have been skim, right?10:18
freeflyingrobotgeek: ya10:19
robotgeekfreeflying: changed10:20
freeflyingrobotgeek: thx10:21
robotgeekfreeflying: how which file do i check all what you pasted?10:21
freeflyingrobotgeek: you may disable it in /usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop10:23
robotgeekfreeflying: thanks10:25
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freeflyingrobotgeek_zzz: ping11:14
jpatrickmorning11:40
freeflyinghey jpatrick 11:40
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jpatrickhi freeflying, Hobbsee11:41
Hobbseehey jpatrick 11:41
jpatrickhow are you?11:42
Hobbseegood, was coding earlier, and finally figured out which bit was wrong.  then went to work, and had two nice big guys to protect me from a couple of thugs that were lurking around in back dock (and i have no clue how they got there!)11:44
freeflyingHobbsee: would u like do a test on skim in you system ?11:45
Hobbseeer, not particularly lol - i'm about to go and grab some dinner11:45
Hobbseeand skim, when you try to disable it, seems to crash my system a bit11:45
freeflyinghow ca it crash your system ?11:46
jpatrickI've had some ups and downs recently11:46
freeflyings/ca/can11:46
Hobbseei think i tried removing it, then got a lot of kde program crashes for some reason...11:46
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apokryphosj #kubuntu-offtopic01:51
apokryphoshm :)01:51
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freeflyingjpatrick: ping02:27
jpatrickfreeflying: pang02:27
freeflyingjpatrick: need upload sponsor02:27
jpatrickto universe?02:28
jpatrickwhat package?02:28
freeflyinghttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=213602:28
freeflyingjpatrick: but it's approved to be in main 02:29
jpatrickfreeflying: okay, I'm on it02:35
freeflyingjpatrick: upload ?02:35
jpatrickno, reviewing02:35
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jpatrickfreeflying: version=2 watch?02:36
jpatrickI believe 3's latest02:37
freeflyingjpatrick: that's upgrade from the maintainer,so don't wanna chage too much on it 02:37
jpatrickok02:37
freeflyingany others ?02:38
jpatricklooks good02:43
jpatrickhaving revu-tools ran on it02:45
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freeflyingjpatrick: aleady run with pbuilder02:55
jpatrickfreeflying: built on revu already :P02:57
freeflyingjpatrick: have you ever used mdt ?02:59
jpatrickmdt?02:59
freeflyingmultidistrotool03:00
jpatricknope03:00
freeflyingis kubuntu flight-5 out?03:01
jpatricknoone tested it03:01
freeflyingI just do a fresh install with 10/3 daily cd 03:04
freeflyingjpatrick: how about the result ?03:21
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jpatrickfreeflying: one sexc03:28
jpatricksec*03:28
jpatrickfreeflying: I'm happy with the package03:48
freeflyingjpatrick: upload 03:48
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jpatrickfreeflying: done, close bugs, etc03:56
freeflyingjpatrick: okthx03:56
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robotgeekfreeflying: pong04:47
freeflyingrobotgeek: would u like have a try again ?04:48
robotgeekfreeflying: hmm, okay i just booted into breezy, let me reboot04:48
freeflyingrobotgeek: thx04:48
robotgeekfreeflying: i don't have any updates?04:56
Tm_Traphink-pbook: ping04:56
freeflyingrobotgeek: sudo apt-get --reinstall install skim 04:56
jpatrickTm_T: I believe that he went out05:01
robotgeekfreeflying: i deleted .kde/share/apps/config/skimrc, then did sudo apt-get --reinstall install skim. skim is back in my system tray 05:03
freeflyingrobotgeek: and you add the source I gave u ?05:03
robotgeekfreeflying: yes, but i get no updates since yesterday05:04
freeflyingrobotgeek: can u show me the skimrc and /usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop05:05
Tm_Tjpatrick: ok thank05:05
Tm_Ts05:05
Tm_Tjpatrick: new polished package of Kopete (in case you're interested): http://www.tm-travolta.net/kde/kopete/0.12/05:06
jpatrickah so andred's not doing them anymore?05:06
freeflyingTm_T: I have interesting , but access to your website05:07
robotgeekhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/59635205:07
robotgeekfreeflying: no skimrc after reinstall05:07
Tm_Tfreeflying: =05:07
Tm_T?05:07
freeflyings/access/ can't access05:07
Tm_Twhat you mean05:09
jpatrickfreeflying: the Great Firewall I guess05:09
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jpatrickTm_T: the Chinese government have blacklisted your site :o05:10
Tm_Thaha05:10
Tm_Tthey should05:11
jpatrickfor they're sanity05:11
jpatricktheir* ;)05:11
robotgeekhey Tm_T jpatrick 05:11
Tm_Trobotgeek: moin05:11
jpatrickhey robotgeek 05:12
robotgeekhow do i check where i installed a particulat package from?05:12
freeflyingrobotgeek: reinstall it again , I forgot pbuild it 05:12
jpatrickapt-cache policy ?05:12
robotgeekthaks :)05:12
freeflyingjpatrick: you got it , :)05:13
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jpatrickTm_T: patrick@rothera:~$ lintian -i kopete_0.11.92+0.12beta1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb <- woah, messy05:13
robotgeekfreeflying: okay, it did not install skim from your site05:13
jpatrickTm_T: and put '--disable-rpath' in ./configure command05:14
robotgeekfreeflying: on apt-get update, i get IGN http://ubuntu-zh.3222.org ./ Release.gpg05:14
freeflyingrobotgeek: or you can download it directly 05:15
robotgeekfreeflying: okay, it's cause you don't have ppc versions :)05:16
Tm_Tjpatrick: have to remember05:16
freeflyingrobotgeek: oh ya , u r using ibook , I foogot it , I may build a ppc for you 05:16
robotgeekfreeflying: thanks. sorry for confusion. i should have checked earlier05:17
freeflyingrobotgeek: or you can download the source package , and build for you own :)05:17
robotgeekfreeflying: hmm, later in the day. just got up :)05:18
freeflyingrobotgeek: then I mail you the source package now 05:19
freeflyingrobotgeek: give me your mail address , plz 05:20
raphink-pbookTm_T: pong05:22
robotgeekfreeflying: venkatvc at ubuntu.com05:30
freeflyingrobotgeek: sent it 05:33
robotgeekfreeflying: recvd, thanks05:34
freeflyingrobotgeek: thx for test 05:34
Tm_Tjpatrick: what's that exactly?05:36
jpatrickTm_T: what?05:37
Tm_T'--disable-rpath'05:37
jpatricknot sure but it'll get rid of the "W: kopete: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath" errors05:37
Tm_Taah05:38
Tm_Ttry that05:38
Tm_Tjpatrick: else?05:40
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Tm_Tgood ;)05:40
jpatrickright05:42
Tm_Tah!05:43
Tm_TI do need some coffee05:44
robotgeekif we get a 6 weeks extensions, we should put network-manager from cvs06:00
Tm_Thow about Kopete 0.12? ;--P06:08
robotgeekseriously, kde lacks a good wireless management tool06:09
Tm_Ttrue06:09
Tm_Tnot that I know anything about it but that's been complained often06:09
robotgeekkwifimanager sucks. it causes more harm than good06:09
robotgeeki just refer people to the cli method instead of gui method in kde06:10
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robotgeekof course, i don't know what is involved in getting it from cvs and stuff 06:15
Tm_Tjpatrick: looks like lintian gives nice bunch of errors... let's see if I know what to do with them06:19
jpatrickTm_T: upload it to revu06:23
Tm_Thmm, have to learn that06:51
Tm_Twanna help with it?06:51
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jpatrickTm_T: poke sistart on #ubuntu-motu07:04
Tm_Tyay07:05
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Tm_Traphink-pbook: check #u-motu07:29
Tm_Tnow coffee ->07:29
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