[12:34] <Mez> evening Hobbsee 
[12:34] <Hobbsee> morning Mez 
[01:54] <Mez> hmmles
[01:54] <Mez> my kgpg isnt working
[01:58] <Hobbsee> Mez: how does one go about writing a UVF exception thingo?
[02:00] <Mez> Hobbsee, universe or main ?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> universe
[02:00] <Mez> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html
[02:00] <Hobbsee> thanks
[02:01] <Mez> Hobbsee, fancy writing some documentation ;) ?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> Mez: and how do i file a bug, if checkinstall is not in malone?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> er...nope!
[02:01] <Mez> Hobbsee, er - just file it against ubuntu
[02:01] <Mez> oh
[02:01] <Mez> er
[02:02] <Mez> is checkinstall in ubuntu ?
[02:02] <Mez> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/checkinstall/+filebug
[02:03] <Hobbsee> yes, it is
[02:03] <Mez> file a bug under that URL ;)
[02:05] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:41] <robotgeek> Tm_T: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/nvidia-settings
[05:42] <robotgeek> what was the part about not installable? :P
[05:49] <freeflying> robotgeek: hi
[05:49] <robotgeek> hey freeflying , just got back
[05:49] <Tm_T> robotgeek: well, if I try to install that package, it will remove nvidia-xgl packages
[05:50] <Tm_T> glx even
[05:50] <robotgeek> Tm_T: why, it recommends that package?
[05:50] <Tm_T> no idea
[05:51] <robotgeek> Tm_T: maybe it wants to install a different version of it?
[05:51] <freeflying> Tm_T: where can I get the kopete-0.12
[05:51] <robotgeek> but the nvidia-settings binary is included in nvdia.glx ?
[05:52] <freeflying> robotgeek: not inluded in 
[05:52] <Tm_T> hmm
[05:53] <Tm_T> I don't say anything
[05:53] <Tm_T> freeflying: http://www.tm-travolta.net/kde/kopete/0.12/
[05:53] <Tm_T> there's something
[05:53] <freeflying> Tm_T: I can not access to it , :)
[05:56] <Tm_T> haha
[05:56] <Tm_T> I can send to you, err, was it jabber...
[05:56] <robotgeek> but goes to build skim
[05:57] <Tm_T> I haven't sleep at all
[05:57] <Tm_T> so, good morning to you too
[05:57] <freeflying> Tm_T: it's afternoon here :)
[05:58] <Tm_T> freeflying: I do have your msn contact, yes?
[05:58] <freeflying> Tm_T: ya
[05:58] <Tm_T> hm, you're not online?
[05:58] <freeflying> Tm_T: just a moment
[05:58] <Tm_T> ah :)
[05:58] <freeflying> Tm_T: ok
[05:59] <freeflying> Tm_T: have you add the suppourt of jingle 
[05:59] <robotgeek> anyone knows status of libdvdcss on amd64?
[05:59] <Tm_T> freeflying: not yet, have to discuss about it with higher authorities :)
[06:03] <robotgeek> freeflying: built the pacakges, moment of truth :)
[06:03] <freeflying> robotgeek: hehe
[06:05] <robotgeek> freeflying: was i supposed to delete the .kde/share/config/skimrc before installation
[06:05] <freeflying> robotgeek: ya
[06:05] <robotgeek> i did it, it still came up
[06:06] <freeflying> robotgeek: after rebuild the package ?
[06:06] <robotgeek> wait
[06:10] <robotgeek> freeflying: okay, i removed skim, removed skimrc. (right now, skim is still in my panel). do you want me to do anything specifically before i logout and install and login?
[06:11] <freeflying> robotgeek: then just reinstall the package you rebuild and restart your kde 
[06:11] <robotgeek> kk
[06:14] <robotgeek> freeflying: it still comes up, let me try moving my .kde?
[06:14] <freeflying> robotgeek: no, you needn't remove .kde dir 
[06:14] <robotgeek> i think it's cause i have "save session on kde logout"
[06:14] <freeflying> robotgeek: I'd work on it more , so thx a bu nch for your tes 
[06:15] <robotgeek> freeflying: okay, thanks
[11:09] <Lathiat> hrm, i got all excited kaffeine supported DVB out of the box, doesnt scan any channels tho :\
[11:09] <Lathiat> oh well
[11:20] <Lathiat> hrm anyone elsehave amarok not have the collection show up
[11:20] <Lathiat> i build one, i get plyalists but no collection
[11:50] <glatzor> Hi. I would like to open the help of update-manager and the software-properties in the kde. therefor I want to call "khelp" and the url to the in scrollkeeper registered document.
[11:50] <glatzor> can kde handle ghelp URIs?
[12:08] <glatzor> is there any kde user around?
[12:08] <glatzor> could anyone please try if the following command works:
[12:08] <glatzor>  /usr/bin/khelpcenter ghelp:update-manager#setting-preferences
[12:09] <Hobbsee> what's it supposed to do?
[12:09] <tvo> doesn't work; it opens the khelpcenter with an error page
[12:09] <Hobbsee> glatzor: it opens khelpcentre, and this is the output inside it.
[12:09] <Hobbsee> An error occurred while loading ghelp:update-manager#setting-preferences:
[12:09] <Hobbsee> Thefileorfolderupdate-managerdoesnotexist.
[12:11] <glatzor> Hobbsee: thanks. could you please try  /usr/bin/khelpcenter ghelp://update-manager
[12:12] <Hobbsee> An error occurred while loading ghelp://update-manager:
[12:12] <Hobbsee> Thefileorfolderghelp://update-managerdoesnotexist.
[12:14] <glatzor> Hobbsee: :/
[12:15] <glatzor> /usr/bin/khelpcenter file:///usr/share/gnome/help/update-manager/C/update-manager.xml
[12:15] <glatzor> this does work?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///usr/share/gnome/help/update-manager/C/update-manager.xml does not exist.
[12:16] <glatzor> Hobbsee: ah, ok. You are not on dapper, or?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> i am on dapper
[12:18] <Hobbsee> i do not have gnome installed
[12:24] <glatzor> Hobbsee: but the update-manager, or?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> glatzor: i dont understand - which update manager?
[12:30] <glatzor> Hobbsee: the ubuntu update-manager
[12:30] <tvo> glatzor: I'm on dapper and have both gnome and kde installed, here you're last command shows the help page, but without any formatting
[12:31] <tvo> s/you're/your/
[12:31] <Hobbsee> i dont have any of gnome - including the update manager
[12:31] <glatzor> tvo: thanks. is it still readable?
[12:31] <glatzor> Hobbsee: update-manager is no gnome app
[12:32] <tvo> not really
[12:32] <glatzor> Hobbsee: and this here is one effort to not make it one.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> according to the description in apt, it is
[12:33] <tvo> brb
[12:35] <glatzor> Hobbsee: yes. the desc seems to be outdated. there is also still a dependency on python2-gnome
[12:35] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:35] <glatzor> Hobbsee: but the aim is to provide a gtk app
[12:37] <glatzor> tvo: thanks. I think that i have to install kde myself :/
[12:40] <tvo> I could give you a screenshot instead :)   unless you want to try out much more of course, then that won't work
[12:40] <glatzor> tvo: this would be nice
[12:42] <tvo> http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/junk/temp1.png
[12:49] <glatzor> tvo: thanks. does the documentation appear in the "scrollkeeper" tree?
[01:36] <kmon> good morning
[01:36] <tvo> glatzor: I don't see the update manager there
[01:37] <tvo> glatzor: but it seems lots of gnome doc is there, so I might be looking wrong
[01:37] <glatzor> tvo: it should be n the root of the "applications" tree
[01:37] <kmon> anyone knows when flight-5 for kubuntu is expected to be released? Maybe on monday?
[01:38] <tvo> glatzor: it's there. even more intersting is that when I reach the update manager docs through the scrollkeeper tree, it does show up correctly
[01:39] <glatzor> tvo: that is nice. but I haven't found any documentation using goolge that explains how the ghelp uri should be formated
[01:40] <glatzor> only: scrollkeeper is supported via the ghelp kio handler
[01:41] <jeroenvrp> anyone else problems with OOo 2.0.2 not being there, except for the language files?
[01:44] <kmon> I wanted to install today flight-5 but there are no kubuntu cd's. Anyone knows when they will be available?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> kmon: i'm not sure, but you can try installing off one of the daily cds, if you like
[01:45] <kmon> ok Hobbsee, thanxs
[01:52] <Lathiat> it seems that whatever has kdnssd-avahi in it
[01:52] <Lathiat> doesnt depend on libavahi-client3
[01:52] <Lathiat> which is causing some issues
[01:53] <Lathiat> indeed
[02:05] <ubijtsa> flight5 been released? :)
[02:09] <Lathiat> yes
[03:18] <ubijtsa> excellent
[05:01] <mornfall> Riddell: adept_batch worky
[05:01] <Riddell> mornfall: ooh!
[05:01] <mornfall> Riddell: it's adept_batch install <packages> and adept_batch remove <packages>, anything more specific we need?
[05:02] <mornfall> also, do we want some sort of confirmation or just run the actions right away
[05:02] <Riddell> I think it's just run the actions right away
[05:02] <mornfall> that's what i do now, yes
[05:05] <Riddell> trying to get synaptic to work but I have no idea how to tell it what action to do so it just starts then quits
[05:06] <Lure> synaptic for KDE?
[05:07] <mornfall> people never give up do they? :P
[05:07] <Riddell> no, I was just trying it to see what the behaviour was
[05:07] <Lure> mornfall: I am still on apt-get ;-)
[05:16] <mornfall> Riddell: synaptic reads from stdin
[05:16] <mornfall>         cmd = ["/usr/sbin/synaptic", "--hide-main-window",
[05:16] <mornfall>                "--non-interactive", "--set-selections",
[05:16] <mornfall>                "--parent-window-id", "%s" % (id),
[05:16] <mornfall>                "--finish-str", _("The list of available languages on the "
[05:16] <mornfall>                                  "system has been updated.")
[05:16] <mornfall>                ] 
[12:03] <_Sime> sebas: I'm going to have a go at sorting out the UTF-8 and character encoding issues in Guidance this week. If you are not already working on that.