=== sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jdahlin [n=jdahlin@201-27-5-189.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:53] (re-asking question asked in #ubuntu-devel) Was CONFIG_KPROBES recently turned on in ubuntu kernels? [02:46] jdahlin: it's disabled on all our architectures [02:46] BenC: just curious, do you know why? [02:48] because it's meant for kernel testing and debugging [02:48] and generally if you are doing debugging and testing of the kernel, you are compiling your own [02:48] developers are also ubuntu users [02:48] I'm mainly asking, because I'd like to run systemtap [02:49] and I'm not really interested in recompling my kernel [02:49] it isn't a matter of developer....kernel developers are building their own kernels [02:49] what is systemtap? [02:49] 'dtrace for linux' [02:49] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A//www.redhat.com/magazine/011sep05/features/systemtap/&ei=LX4TROzjAZ6wqQKb7oWYDQ&sig2=Wov4CjGvzajGwoweaSbqtQ [02:49] oops [02:49] http://www.redhat.com/magazine/011sep05/features/systemtap/ [02:49] KPROBES is also marked experimental [02:50] isn't dtrace a kernel level tracing tool? [02:50] are experimental features generally turned off in stock kernels? [02:51] yes, but useful for monitoring applications [02:51] yes, generally, unless enough demand warrants it [02:51] fedora might have turned on by default [02:51] but this is only the first request [02:51] systemtap seems pretty new, I haven't actually managed to use it (since it requires a kernel recompilation) [02:52] it's a little late in dapper cycle to enable it, maybe propose it for dapper+1 [02:52] but assuming it can do useful things, it should probably be turned at some point (when both kernel and user space matures) [02:52] sure, I'm not proposing turning it off just yet [02:52] err, on [02:54] BenC: sounds good. I'll investigate the tool and file a bug for turning on CONFIG_KPROBES for dapper+1 iff it turns out to be useful === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-065-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jdahlin [n=jdahlin@201-27-5-189.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === triceratops [n=tricerat@dyndsl-085-016-042-012.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:16] Will the needed fglrx kernel modules be in dapper to fix bugs #32332 and #34314? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === triceratops [n=tricerat@dyndsl-085-016-042-012.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === j_ack [n=nico@p508D951E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === nhaines [n=nhaines@adsl-69-231-123-155.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:22] Hello, everyone. :) [09:29] It's quiet here, so I'll check back later. Good bye, all. === nhaines [n=nhaines@adsl-69-231-123-155.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === gargas [n=gargas@ppp43-adsl-194.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gargas [n=gargas@ppp43-adsl-194.ath.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-kernel [""] === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lotu5 [n=lotu5@ip68-101-185-60.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:26] hello all... [11:26] i'm having a little trouble building the softmac module to get my airportextreme card working... can anyone help a bit? [11:27] specifically, i'm getting this error: make[1] : Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.15.1/build' [11:27] make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. [11:29] anyone here? === lotu5 [n=lotu5@ip68-101-185-60.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-074-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-074-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ppd [n=max@dslb-084-056-016-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:50] hi. building lirc modules doesn't work in dapper. is that known? === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-165-224.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:25] does standard dapper kernel omit any soundcard drivers? === ppd [n=max@dslb-084-056-016-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:26] hello, I was sent here from ubuntu-desktop with that question. Can it be that the ingain channel is missing on dapper for c-media soundcards? === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FC391.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:33] anybody in da house? :-D === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host83-39.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zyga_ [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:28] anybody in da house? :-D [07:28] how can i use ioperm in my kernel modul? [07:29] Warning: implizite declaration of function ioperm [07:31] netzmeister: You can't. It's a userland call. [07:31] any alternatives? [07:32] Why do you need it? [07:32] The kernel can read/write any io ports it wants [07:32] i develop a kernel modul to read my uGuru MainBoard controller.. (CPU temp etc..) [07:33] mjg59: That's nice to hear.. ;-) [07:33] do you've any code example for me? [07:33] No [07:33] :-( [07:34] You can just use inb and outb [07:35] okay [07:36] yes it works.. [07:36] i convert a "userland" source in a kernel module source.. [07:36] i do not need the ioperm function.. [07:37] '/* ioperm...... */ and all is fine. ;) [09:33] mjg59: Are you there? [09:34] netzmeister: Hi [09:34] hi [09:34] one question.. [09:34] i have two source files.. [09:34] one.c and two.c [09:35] in one.c i use some functions which are in two.c [09:35] but i don't know how i should create the makefile [09:35] (i will create a kernel module) [09:35] netzmeister: If it's a kernel module, you need to look at the makefiles in the kernel [09:36] The only supported way of producing kernel modules is to use the kernel build system now [09:36] (Even if you're building outside the kernel) [09:37] kernel build system? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === hile [i=hile@hack.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cjb [n=cjb@islay.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D951E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === netzmeister_ [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-074-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel