[12:00] <tristanmike> Silent_shadow900, you have to enter your bios and change it to boot from cd
[12:00] <lusepuster> okay, if anyone can help, my dist-upgrade has stalled on some dependency problem...
[12:00] <navarone> Silent have you changed boot order in bios so that puter tries to boot from cd first?
[12:00] <Mosi> jmoncayo:  i'd be willing to bet if you  have a firewall, it's dropping all packets to port 80
[12:00] <Silent_shadow900> How would I go about doing that
[12:00] <Silent_shadow900> ?
[12:00] <Sunky> hi
[12:00] <Mosi> jmoncayo: or it may not be letting server responses back to me
[12:00] <tristanmike> Silent_shadow900, in most cases it's "Del" when the computer first boots up during the ram check
[12:00] <cwillu> Silent_shadow900:  it's different on every computer :/
[12:00] <Silent_shadow900> oh
[12:01] <tristanmike> Silent_shadow900, "del" as in the "delete" key
[12:01] <Silent_shadow900> because there's a split second before it boots windows when I start it up
[12:01] <Sunky> can i see the .* files?
[12:01] <malta_> could someone tell me why when i use 'apt-get install some_app' apt-get asks me to run 'apt-get update' and downloads a huge file (about 2 mb). I downloaded it 10 times already!
[12:01] <poningru> Silent_shadow900: when you start up your computer look at the msgs at the bottom of the screen in that split second
[12:01] <tristanmike> Silent_shadow900, it should say somewhere when you boot "Press BLAH to enter setup utility"  or similar
[12:01] <swim> anto9us, ok Ill set it up but, why isnt that under some regular ubuntu setup guide,  that tells you everything one should setup theyre system like before everything works well
[12:01] <navarone> Silent when the computer is first booting wait for message about setup and press appropriate key...usually "del" then you should be in bios setup and you can arrange the boot option so that it tries cd drive first instead of floppy or hard drive
[12:01] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  hey there
[12:01] <orn> my touchpad is really slow and not responding to xset changes. anyone got a clue how to make it more sensitive?
[12:01] <Silent_shadow900> alright, thanks guys
[12:01] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Hi
[12:01] <poningru> Sunbug: what do you mean?
[12:02] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Mic just blew up
[12:02] <poningru> err Sunky
[12:02] <cwillu> neat
[12:02] <poningru> Sunky: what was your question dude?
[12:02] <anto9us> swim, it's a very young distribution, it's all coming together though, the wiki contains lots of useful stuff
[12:02] <poningru> malta_: hmm you have to do that everytime?
[12:02] <poningru> malta_: or periodicly?
[12:02] <leogibson> why are the icons the same sizein ubuntu even when my resolution is cranked all the way up...ive seen this with other distros, both gnome and kde
[12:03] <leogibson> is there a cmd to change this?
[12:03] <Mosi> malta_: when you run 'sudo apt-get update' it does something liek going to all the listed repositories you  have in /etc/apt/sources.list and re-downloads the complete list of packages available from that repo. probably what's happening is the file you want just isn't available from your repos, so it htinks you need to updatee your list.
[12:03] <leogibson> like "Appearences" in windows background
[12:03] <malta_> poningru: time to time. looks like every time where i turn on the PC
[12:03] <swim> anto9us, yes I like the wiki, but I wouldnt have been aware of that without asking in here and having people know what I should do
[12:03] <Howitzer> Man, xubuntu rules
[12:03] <Howitzer> i love it
[12:03] <navarone> Sunky if you mean files that begin with "." then you need to enable viewing hidden files from the "view" menu option in Nautilus
[12:03] <poningru> leogibson: icons are always the same pixels
[12:03] <anto9us> swim, as I say, it's a great community driven distribution :)
[12:03] <poningru> size
[12:03] <leogibson> i dont really like that
[12:04] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  next up; do a host archive.ubuntu.com <dns ip>, running it once for each dns ip address you had;  tell me if any of them show that warning message
[12:04] <leogibson> is there a way to change this? using the terminal?
[12:04] <leogibson> it reminds me too much of those kids MACs wed use in primary school
[12:04] <poningru> leogibson: what icons do you mean? like the ones in the windows?
[12:04] <poningru> like on the desktop
[12:04] <Lani> When I try "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" I get this error message "(gedit:6131): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open displa:"
[12:04] <leogibson> the icons on the desktop and the toolbars on all windows
[12:04] <poningru> or the ones in the menu
[12:05] <poningru> well the ones on the desktop are variable
[12:05] <poningru> right click on it
[12:05] <flux___> leogibson, you mean gnome?
[12:05] <jaldhar> I upgraded from breezy to dapper and now gnomad2 doesn't work.  I think it is because udev makes USB devices readable by root only.  What's the fix?
[12:05] <anto9us> swim, I think dma being enabled by default my cause more compatibility issues than it solves
[12:05] <malta_> Mosi: I got it. But I downloaded a simple soft like gppp, gftp, mysql-server, apache.
[12:05] <leogibson> gnome  yes
[12:05] <flux___> leogibson, just the gnome theme (ugly human?)
[12:05] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:05] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[12:05] <jaldhar> needless to say it works if I use sudo.  But I don't want that obviously
[12:05] <cwillu> !tell jaldhara about dapper
[12:05] <leogibson> but is trhere a universal setting
[12:05] <ompaul> jaldhar, ^^^^^^^
[12:05] <poningru> leogibson: right click on it and click stretch
[12:05] <leogibson> yes gnome breezy and dapper
[12:05] <jaldhar> aah.  Right ho then
[12:06] <Mosi> Lani: that's because gnome is running on a different server, there is no graphics to run gedit in from that terminal
[12:06] <leogibson> is there a way to apply a certain size to all toolbars menus and icons all at once?
[12:06] <dabaR> Lani: well, it means you can not open the disply for windows.
[12:06] <leogibson> windows does this very easily
[12:06] <flux___> does it?
[12:06] <Celestianpower> cwillu: No errors
[12:06] <dabaR> lani: Where are you typing this in?
[12:06] <CookyPuss> anyone here use gizmo?
[12:07] <flux___> leogibson, i got fed up with ugly huge gnome icons and installed fluxbox, but that was a mission in itself with font sizes etc
[12:07] <Mosi> Lani: you can either run that command with the --display=0:0 option to run it in gnome, (which it sounds like is not working), or you can use a connad-line editor instead
[12:07] <flux___> now i use xfe
[12:07] <leogibson> xfe ok
[12:07] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  okay, next, when you were repeating resolv.conf to me over and over again, were you reopening it each time, or did you just have the editor still open from before?
[12:07] <leogibson> thanks
[12:07] <navarone> flux___,  me too
[12:07] <Lani> dabaR: I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1 in XWindows and got to a prompt
[12:07] <navarone> xfce
[12:07] <flux___> navarone, you must be a minimalist too ;)
[12:07] <Lani> Mosi: Yes I need a command-line editor :) got a name? ;)
[12:07] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Still open
[12:07] <Mosi> Lani: command-line, that is.  i like vi
[12:07] <Lani> Mosi: ok!
[12:07] <dabaR> Lani: gedit, and all other gui applications will never work in alt-ctrl-f1. use a text editor there, like vi or nano.
[12:08] <cwillu> okay, on a terminal:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:08] <Mosi> Lani: other ones are Pico, which is simple and pretty easy to learn, or Emacs
[12:08] <cwillu> and tell me if it's different
[12:08] <navarone> flux...not really a minimalist...just trying to squeeze as much as I can out of four year old hardware
[12:08] <Lani> ok
[12:08] <lusepuster> Hi - there is some dependency problem blocking the finishing of my dist-upgrade from hoary. How can I get on? It says that dpkg is trying to overwrite some file that's also in another package...
[12:08] <Mosi> Lani: if yoou don't know VI or Emacs, i'd say use Pico, because it's easy.
[12:08] <slew> hi. does anyone know how to install a new mouse cursor theme?
[12:08] <flux___> navarone, ahh :) well even on new hardware it's runs nicer
[12:08] <Mosi> Lani: but if you plan on spending much time using connad-line editors, learn vi, because it doesn't suck :P
[12:09] <Mosi> wow, how did i make that typo twice?
[12:09] <navarone> flux i will post a screenshot...<s>
[12:09] <Sunky> navarone, thanks
[12:09] <dan_> when i try 2 unmout my windows partitions because they aint there any more i get the error message "umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda5 from /media/sda5" how do i fix that?
[12:09] <swim> anto9us, is dapper useable enough for me to install it right now?
[12:10] <anto9us> swim, I've not tried it yet
[12:10] <anto9us> !dapper
[12:10] <raz0r> can someone tell me why my max resol. is 1024? i checked xorg.conf 1152 is listed there but i cant choose it
[12:10] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[12:10] <dabaR> dan_: use sudo for now, and then fix your /etc/fstab to allow normal users to mount and unmount the drive if you want that.
[12:10] <Lani> Mosi: ok, I try pico for now, I'm hoping to leave command-line behind for editing purposes as soon as I can get XWindows running properly ;)
[12:10] <Mosi> Lani: good luck :)
[12:10] <cwillu> Celestianpower: got that
[12:10] <cwillu> ?
[12:11] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Sorry
[12:11] <LjL> Lani: strangely enough, my X is working perfectly and yet i use nano (akast pico) for most of my editing ;)
[12:11] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Oh, it says something else
[12:11] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  #%^^##  :)
[12:11] <dan_> dabaR, i am the only user. and because they aint there any more i cant open them and access what i put on the other partitions.
[12:11] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Is that good?
[12:12] <cwillu> it's good in a bad way :p
[12:12] <Makura> Question: Why is it when I start installing something that requires multiple cds, when it asks for the second CD, why can't I eject it?
[12:12] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Oh :(
[12:12] <Lani> LjL: hehe ok
[12:12] <dabaR> dan_: are you saying you can not access the files?
[12:12] <cwillu> Celestianpower: go to that tab I just opened on your irc
[12:13] <Celestianpower> cwillu: I can't see any extra tab?
[12:13] <cwillu> :/
[12:13] <cwillu> oh well, it was worth a shot
[12:13] <dan_> dabaR, yeah.
[12:13] <cwillu> anyway, paste me what the cat said
[12:13] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10026   Sunky flux <--
[12:13] <Celestianpower> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[12:13] <cwillu> heh
[12:13] <slew> hi. does anyone know how to install a new mouse cursor theme?
[12:13] <cwillu> there's the problem
[12:14] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Ah
[12:14] <raz0r> can someone tell me why my max resol. is 1024? i checked xorg.conf 1152 is listed there but i cant choose it
[12:14] <cwillu> anybody know how to make a manually entered dns server stick when you're using dhcp for everything else?
[12:14] <dabaR> dan_: well, again, it is cause you allowed only the super user to use it. Or your system did anyhow. Can you join #dabaR? I am at work, and things scroll off the screen cause I can not constantly monitor this chat room.
[12:14] <montbazin> hello, can somebody tell me how to install Skype ?
[12:15] <Lani> I'm in the xorg.conf now, I have a Section called "Screen", I don't get it all, but all modes that ar listed is "1024x768", "800x600" and "640x480", which should be ok, but the mode i get looks more like 1280x512
[12:15] <Celestianpower> !tell montbazin about skype
[12:15] <Jemt> !skype
[12:15] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:15] <jmoncayo_> how can i know if ISP is blocking my port 80
[12:15] <Lani> the difrent subsections have different depth, 1, 4, 8 and 15, but I don't know what that means?
[12:15] <lusepuster> Weee.... Poor montbazin ;-)
[12:15] <slew> navarone, what wm is that?
[12:16] <breezy> can some one help me
[12:16] <navarone> xfce...with dusky dark theme I think
[12:16] <Jemt> breezy: Ask your question..
[12:16] <lusepuster> breezy, depends on your problem :-)
[12:16] <slew> sekseee
[12:16] <cwillu> breezy, don't ask if you can ask, just ask :)
[12:16] <montbazin> why poor montbazin ???
[12:16] <Makura> Why can't I eject my CD?  I need to put in the other CD for an installation to continue but it's kind of hard when it wont eject. =p
[12:17] <Lani> ah 16 and 24, probably color depth then :)
[12:17] <lusepuster> montbazin, being flooded with bot-explanations about skype....
[12:17] <Siddhartha211> how do i access Windows files on ubuntu?
[12:17] <Lani> and it's set for 24, which should work
[12:17] <breezy> How do i find my 2nd hard drive i've just installed breezy and i dont know where it is? i made sure in setup that i didn't wipe it.. its got all my music...?
[12:17] <jmoncayo> how can i know if ISP is blocking my port 80
[12:17] <slew> Makura, right click on the cd icon and choose eject
[12:17] <Makura> slew: Doesn't work.
[12:17] <dabaR> jmoncayo: do you have a router?
[12:17] <Makura> slew: Some nonsense about it being busy. =\
[12:17] <zyth> jmoncayo, call them and ask?
[12:17] <navarone> slew...with custom icons I chose for volumes on desktop
[12:17] <CarlFK> what is the name of the image-magick package?
[12:17] <slew> =[
[12:17] <Siddhartha211> how do i access windows files on ubuntu?
[12:17] <montbazin> sorry, what do you mean, my english is not that good ?!?
[12:17] <Siddhartha211> ubuntu live cd
[12:18] <tristanmike> !tell breezy about windowsdrives
[12:18] <tristanmike> breezy, see your pm
[12:18] <zyth> So I have a weird issue.  I install Kubuntu, then my nividia drivers, all is well.  I install normal Ubuntu, then the nvidia drivers, and I get a nice 1" line on the side of screen that is white where windows will not go, but the mouse can.  Anyone ever seen anything similar before?
[12:18] <CarlFK> imagemagick
[12:18] <Siddhartha211> !tell Siddhartha211 about windowsdrives
[12:18] <cwillu> Celestianpower: this might work
[12:18] <cwillu> Celestianpower: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:18] <FlannelKing> hmm, flight 5 is out.
[12:18] <jmoncayo> dabaR: yes i do have an adsl router and a wireless router
[12:18] <breezy> its not a windows drive its set as a rieser... my mate said it would work better
[12:18] <Siddhartha211> can someone help me?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> !tell Siddhartha211 about someone
[12:19] <dabaR> jmoncayo: did you forward port 80 on both devices?
[12:19] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Okay
[12:19] <tristanmike> Siddhartha211, read your pm
[12:19] <navarone> !diskmounter
[12:19] <Jemt> FlannelKing: Yep, and it rox. I have just installed it today along with XGL :)
[12:19] <ubotu> well, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[12:19] <slew> does anyone know how to install a new mouse cursor theme?
[12:19] <Siddhartha211> OMFG I already stated my questions but you arent listening
[12:19] <navarone> Siddhartha211, read the diskmounter iurl
[12:19] <cwillu> find the section "iface eth0 ..."
[12:19] <pdavid> afternoon all
[12:19] <Genfoo> af. 2 u 2
[12:19] <dabaR> OMGWTFLOLROFLMFAO
[12:19] <Jemt> Siddhartha211: .......
[12:19] <robinl1> ...
[12:19] <Siddhartha211> diskmounter UL?
[12:19] <Siddhartha211> Jemt; what
[12:20] <cwillu> probably be
[12:20] <cwillu> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:20] <Siddhartha211> Jemt: what?
[12:20] <robinl1> OH BEHAVE
[12:20] <Lani> Wohaaaa! I changed the color depth to 16 and now it works! And it looks slick! :)
[12:20] <robinl1> I STEAL YOUR MOJO!
[12:20] <dabaR> :-D
[12:20] <robinl1> XD
[12:20] <Jemt> Siddhartha211: Relax, will ya' ?
[12:20] <LjL> Siddhartha211: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter <- this one
[12:20] <slew> Makura, try Applications, Sytem Tools, System Monitor and see if anything is using the drive
[12:20] <lusepuster> pdavid, midnight here :-)
[12:20] <Lani> Thank you all for your help! Very nice with such a helpful community!
[12:20] <pdavid> lusepuster: where u at
[12:20] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Yes
[12:20] <Celestianpower> It is
[12:20] <robinl1> i need to go sleep
[12:20] <robinl1> so.. bye, lol
[12:20] <Jemt> Nighty, robinl1
[12:20] <slew> =] 
[12:20] <jmoncayo> dabaR: i did dmz on both devices
[12:20] <lusepuster> pdavid, Copenhagen, Denmark
[12:21] <robinl1> Thanks, Jemt, Gnight all ^^
[12:21] <cwillu> Celestianpower: actually forget that
[12:21] <cwillu> :p
[12:21] <dabaR> jmoncayo: that is not the same.
[12:21] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Oh
[12:21] <robinl1> no, that doesnt mean gnome-night
[12:21] <Jemt> :)
[12:21] <robinl1> or GnuNight
[12:21] <crittafa> hola
[12:21] <pdavid> lustpuster nice
[12:21] <robinl1> it means Good Night!
[12:21] <cwillu> Celestianpower: go to System | administration | networking
[12:21] <pdavid> victoria, bc here
[12:21] <Nessa> hi all
[12:21] <Nessa> newbie here
[12:21] <crittafa> hola
[12:21] <robinl1> ALERT!
[12:21] <pdavid> hi
[12:21] <robinl1> NEWBIE DETECTED@
[12:21] <Nessa> I need help with the codecs and stuff
[12:21] <robinl1> PREPARING LASERBEAM
[12:21] <Celestianpower> Okay
[12:21] <Nessa> I can't play mp3 or any kinda movie
[12:21] <jmoncayo> dabaR: so what should i do?
[12:21] <tristanmike> !tell Nessa about restricted formats
[12:21] <robinl1> LASERBEAM FIRES IN 3.. 2... 1..
[12:21] <pdavid> which codecs?
[12:21] <crittafa> de donde es
[12:21] <Siddhartha211> LjL: how do i use this web page when im using live cd...because im on widnows right now and i cant access the internet from ubuntu because its AOL dialup
[12:22] <montbazin> hola crittafa
[12:22] <LjL> !es
[12:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:22] <IdleOne> robin_>  caps off please
[12:22] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Done
[12:22] <LjL> Siddhartha211: you start up firefox, and go to it
[12:22] <crittafa> lo siento mate
[12:22] <zyth> I wish someone would release an Ubuntu build for those of us NOT in the US that already has all the silly restricted stuff
[12:22] <robinl1> IdleOne: alrighty :P
[12:22] <Nessa> I'm really sorry if I'm bothering you
[12:22] <zyth> but alas, I will take the few minutes and manually install them ;)
[12:22] <Siddhartha211> LjL: but i cant access the internet from ubuntu
[12:22] <crittafa> gday
[12:22] <Nessa> it's just this my first time with ubuntu
[12:22] <Nessa> :)
[12:22] <Siddhartha211> LjL: i have AOL dialup, which doesnt work with ubuntu
[12:22] <Makura> slew: I have no idea what I'm looking for. =[
[12:23] <pdavid> nessa: what are you trying to play?
[12:23] <SAM_theman> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[12:23] <SAM_theman> ?
[12:23] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  you know your internal ip address?
[12:23] <IdleOne> !tell Nessa about repos
[12:23] <cwillu> 192.168.0.something?
[12:23] <slew> does anyone know how to install a new mouse cursor theme?
[12:23] <crittafa> first time ubuntu chat for mi
[12:23] <Celestianpower> cwillu: 192.168.1.1 is what I type to load the settings for my router
[12:23] <Siddhartha211> LjL: and anyways, i dont understand half the stuff in there, where can i get help with it
[12:23] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  that's your router, what's your desktop?
[12:23] <LjL> siddhartha211: can't you put that program on a floppy disk or a usb key or something?
[12:23] <slew> Makura, you can try sudo umount /dev/hdd or /hdc, which ever is your drive.
[12:23] <jmoncayo> monger: where you helpping me earlier
[12:23] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  ifconfig in a terminal to find out
[12:23] <montbazin> LjL her I am again, what must I do to quit the chat properly (sorry for my stupid questions)
[12:24] <LjL> Siddhartha211: i think you simply need to run that script, though i never really used it
[12:24] <Siddhartha211> LjL: okay, but how do i access the floppy, because livecd only detects my cd rom
[12:24] <Siddhartha211> oh wait
[12:24] <Siddhartha211> im so stupid
[12:24] <LjL> montbazin: nothing special, just close the program. or "/quit"
[12:24] <Siddhartha211> i can burn it on cd
[12:24] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  once you know that:  in network settings, under the connections tab, select your interface (eth0), hit properties
[12:24] <tristanmike> Siddhartha211, it's probably the size of a floppy
[12:24] <montbazin> Thanx LjL
[12:24] <jmoncayo> dabaR: what should i do man??
[12:24] <LjL> Siddhartha211: you need to "sudo mount /media/floppy" to mount floppies, normally
[12:25] <tristanmike> Siddhartha211, that file is 4.8 k
[12:25] <Makura> slew: Hold that though, let me restart
[12:25] <Siddhartha211> LjL: i got ubuntu this morning, where do i put this sudo mount thing
[12:25] <vmware> lol
[12:25] <vmware> stupid..me
[12:25] <Celestianpower> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10028
[12:25] <LjL> Siddhartha211: main menu / Accessories / Terminal
[12:25] <cwillu> join #Celestianpower:
[12:25] <cwillu> bah
[12:26] <dabaR> jmoncayo: I am at work so I do not see all the posts right away. Patience;) You go into your router setup and forward port 80 to the IP address of the comnputer with the web server. If you want more info from me, come to #dabaR
[12:26] <Siddhartha211> LjL: you said all i need to do is run the script...how do i do that
[12:27] <tristanmike> Siddhartha211, in a terminal change directory to the file and type "./diskmounter" and that should get you going
[12:27] <dabaR> tristanmike: chmod it first
[12:27] <LjL> Siddhartha211: from the same Terminal i just mentioned, go to the directory where the program is (for example /media/floppy) by typing like "cd /media/floppy", then do "chmod +x name-of-the-program-file", then "./name-of-the-program-file"
[12:27] <jason_> i downloaded the ubuntu installation files from the ubuntu ftp site, and i cannot find the actual image
[12:27] <Formidable> Anyone here think they can help me with my problem encoding video into iPod format? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946&page=16
[12:27] <tristanmike> dabaR, yeah, you got me, dang it!
[12:27] <mikeazorin> when i'm running many programs, my mouse gets jerky, what should i do?
[12:28] <Siddhartha211> LjL: sorry to be so stupid at ubuntu, but I have no idea what you mean by program file
[12:28] <tristanmike> dabaR, thanks for keeping me on my toes :)
[12:28] <LjL> Siddhartha211: the thing that you download from that site
[12:28] <Siddhartha211> okay
[12:28] <Siddhartha211> ill try it
[12:29] <LjL> Siddhartha211: ok, let's restart from the beginning. write down what i'll say
[12:29] <mikeazorin> many programs meaning gimp, rythmbox, firefox and OO.o. but i have 1gb ram
[12:29] <caglar_> where is gnome saving the themes or window borders?
[12:29] <LjL> Siddhartha211: when you are in the live cd desktop, go to the main menu, Accessories, Terminal
[12:29] <Managu> Question: Is there any way I can arrange to get sound out of VMWare player (which uses OSS sound) and Cedega (my choice, OSS or ALSA) at the same time?  I've tried esddsp to no avail =(
[12:29] <LjL> Siddhartha211: when the terminal starts, type:      wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[12:29] <LjL> Siddhartha211: then type:     chmod +x diskmounter
[12:29] <LjL> Siddhartha211: then type:    ./diskmounter
[12:30] <Siddhartha211> LjL: but im not connected to the internet...AOL dialup doesnt work on Ubuntu
[12:30] <LjL> Siddhartha211: right. i'm stupid
[12:30] <SAM_theman> :p
[12:30] <ubuntudengel> new ubuntu/firefox user here looking for java runtime environment... can anyone help?
[12:30] <caglar_> where does gnome save the themes and window borders?
[12:31] <LjL> Siddhartha211: so, the last two steps are still valid, but ignore the first step... instead, download the thing (the "diskmounter" file from that site) from Windows and put it on a floppy
[12:31] <tristanmike> !tell ubuntudengel about java
[12:31] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntudengel about java
[12:31] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntudengel about repos
[12:31] <LjL> Siddhartha211: when in Ubuntu, type "sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy", and then "cd /media/floppy"
[12:31] <Lani> humm, next problem, ubuntu has not found my nic
[12:31] <Yugoslavia> How do I assign a function to my Windows key?
[12:31] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can run an x app on my server via an ssh connection(with it running on the server, not the client)
[12:31] <Lani> but i don't even know where to start
[12:31] <LjL> Siddhartha211: then, as before, "chmod +x diskmounter", and "sudo diskmounter" (i didn't mention "sudo" before, but i think it'll be needed here)
[12:32] <ruzgar> what are the windows emulator programs (like wine) ?
[12:32] <IdleOne> Lani>  System > Administration > Networking and enable eth0
[12:32] <IdleOne> !tell ruzgar  about wine
[12:33] <IdleOne> !tell ruzgar  about cedega
[12:33] <Siddhartha211> LjL: okay, and then what should happen
[12:33] <dabaR> Yugoslavia: Sistem> Administracija>Kybd shortcuts.
[12:33] <LjL> Siddhartha211: so, summarizing again -- download "diskmounter" from Windows, put it on a floppy, then from ubuntu, "sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy", "cd /media/floppy", "sudo chmod +x diskmounter", "sudo diskmounter"   (yeah, that's another sudo that might be needed)
[12:33] <Yugoslavia> DabaR, thank you!!! :)
[12:34] <ubuntudengel> new ubuntu/firefox user here looking for java runtime environment... can anyone help?
[12:34] <Siddhartha211> LjL: and then once all of that is done what should happen?
[12:34] <LjL> Siddhartha211: then you should have your windows drives mounted, under the /media directory (in sub-directories like /media/hda1, or similar). use the graphical file browser (= windows explorer) to find them
[12:34] <IdleOne> ubuntudengel>  look for a msg from ubotu  on your screen
[12:34] <Siddhartha211> under the media directory...which is in file system?
[12:34] <dabaR> Yugoslavia: mane na muce, tell me if that was what you were looking for.
[12:34] <ubuntudengel> thanks!!!
[12:34] <Yugoslavia> Yes, it was.
[12:34] <IdleOne> you are welcome
[12:34] <Siddhartha211> LjL: under the media directory...which is in file system?
[12:35] <Lani> IdleOne: Thank you! That were really easy :)
[12:35] <dabaR> Yugoslavia: OK.
[12:35] <dabaR> Yugoslavia: you know you are living in the past?;)
[12:35] <IdleOne> Lani>  most of the time it isnt :)
[12:35] <LjL> Siddhartha211: yes... if i recall correctly, under Gnome you have a "Places" menu, which has "/" in it among other things. click on it, and then navigate to "media", and "hdwhatever"
[12:35] <IdleOne> Lani>  glad it worked :)
[12:35] <Lani> IdleOne: hehe :)
[12:36] <cshaman> hello, world
[12:36] <Siddhartha211> LjL: will i have to do this everytime i use livecd
[12:36] <beefsprocket> has anyone managed to get a lexmark z60x printer working in dapper?
[12:36] <LjL> Siddhartha211: yes
[12:36] <IdleOne> hello cshaman
[12:36] <Siddhartha211> LjL: okay thanks
[12:36] <Drac[Server] > My gtk-gnutella is messed up. Can somebody give me a few IP addresses from the "GnutellaNet" section to connect to so I can jumpstart my network?
[12:36] <Jimmey__> Guys, I got a serial port terminal, can I use this to install Ubuntu on a monitor-less PC, if I connect to it with an ethernet cable?
[12:36] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[12:36] <caglar_> does anyone know where gnome saves its window border themes?
[12:37] <we2by_> hi
[12:37] <IdleOne> caglar_>  system prefrences themes
[12:37] <we2by_> how do I disable the minimize animation?
[12:37] <cshaman> i'm having slight troubles with configuring my partition table on this new ubuntu install...
[12:37] <beefsprocket> IdleOne: ah, much quieter there, thanks
[12:37] <IdleOne> beefsprocket>  no problem
[12:37] <CanadianSnow> so, what should I use to play movies?
[12:37] <cshaman> usually i use the installer's auto-partition scheme -- essentially a root partition with the boot loader on it and a swap partition...
[12:37] <Drac[Server] > beefsprocket, how big is the harddrive?
[12:38] <LjL> CanadianSnow: Totem, Kaffeine, VLC, mplayer, xine-ui... pick your choice
[12:38] <dabaR> caglar_: art.gnome.org faq section maybe.
[12:38] <cshaman> but this time i want to try having a seperate partition for /home so i don't have to backup my files with new os installations etc. and possibly a partition for /usr?
[12:38] <Makura> Why can't I eject my CD?  The button doesn't work, right click > eject doesn't work, umount doesn't work.  I need to eject and put in another CD for the installation to continue. >_<
[12:38] <Drac[Server] > CanadianSnow, mplayer is good. I've yet to try VLC, but I hear it's awesome. You need the w32codecs package, first, though.
[12:38] <CanadianSnow> Totem wont work
[12:38] <pedro> hi, any one here with the Segmentation Fault problem on FF1.5.0.1 ?
[12:38] <Mosi> rumor has it dapper has gone stable
[12:38] <cshaman> the problem is that i don't know what size to specify for each partition -- what size is adequate etc.
[12:38] <Mosi> does that mean there's also a stable PPC release, or does that take more time?
[12:38] <mikebot> can someone help me get this program running in ubuntu?: http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[12:39] <CanadianSnow> how do I get the w32codecs then?
[12:39] <CookyPuss> anyone here use gizmo
[12:39] <we2by_> how do I disable the minimize animation?
[12:39] <Celestianpower> !opera
[12:39] <ubotu> [opera]  not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[12:39] <LjL> !tell CanadianSnow about w32codecs
[12:39] <LjL> !tell CanadianSnow about restrictedformats
[12:39] <dabaR> Mosi: lies! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight5
[12:39] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, how big is the harddrive?
[12:39] <Makura> No one?
[12:40] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, also, are you dual booting? How much memory do you have?
[12:40] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , the size of the harddrive is 8.6 gigabytes
[12:40] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , i am not dual-booting.
[12:40] <BBHoss> !java
[12:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:40] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , I have 128mb of RAM
[12:40] <BBHoss> !javadebs
[12:40] <fade_> hello
[12:40] <Jimmey__> Guys, I got a serial port terminal, can I use this to install Ubuntu on a monitor-less PC, if I connect to it with an ethernet cable?
[12:41] <Mosi> dabaR: thanks :)
[12:41] <dan_> !tell dan_ about mp3
[12:41] <mikebot> or rather, can soemone help me run an exe that doesn't work in wine?
[12:41] <fade_> anybody know about w32codecs at amd64-based system?
[12:42] <dan_> how do i play mp3s?
[12:42] <LjL> !mp3
[12:42] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:42] <CanadianSnow> thanks gtg bye
[12:42] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, okay. You'll want to make a separate home partition for backup, too. This is a wise decision. Go to "manually edit partition table" - I suggest ReiseFS for slow harddrives. Make a 3GB ReiserFS partition for root and mark the bootable flag, then make 5GB a ReiserFS home partition. Finally, make the remaining space swap. The partition is easy to work with. Don't worry.
[12:43] <IdleOne> mikebot>  you can check for compatibility on www.winehq.com I believe
[12:43] <we2by_> how do I disable the minimize animation?
[12:43] <mikebot> IdleOne, it's like a program a professor made that i have to run
[12:43] <z6bt> hello i would like to know what i ahve to do to dual boot ubuntu and windows?
[12:43] <mikebot> IdleOne, it isn't like WoW or anything
[12:43] <IdleOne> mikebot>  chances are it wont work then
[12:43] <fade_> we2by_, i think in gnome config
[12:44] <mikebot> IdleOne, there is no way to get it to run in ubuntu?
[12:44] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , thanks very much
[12:44] <mikebot> IdleOne, it's just an exe and some text files
[12:44] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, the home partition will make reinstallation/upgrading much easier for you - it'll save your main files and program preferences in a separate partition that can be retained in any kind of reinstallation of Linux.
[12:44] <IdleOne> mikebot>  you can try cedega
[12:44] <mikebot> !cedega
[12:44] <we2by_> fade_, where is gnome config?
[12:44] <Lani> And now I'm _adding_ Eclipse to my installed applications, if this works it's superb! :)
[12:44] <we2by_> how do I open it?
[12:44] <IdleOne> mikebot>  I understand but it doesnt mean that it will be supported by wine
[12:44] <mikebot> IdleOne, this progam doesn't need directx api
[12:45] <mikebot> IdleOne, oh i don't care if i need to use wine or not, i just need to get it to run
[12:45] <fade_> etc/gnome may be. i'm newbie too )))
[12:45] <anto9us> mikebot, what's the program written in? Can you get the source code?
[12:45] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , is it worth making a partition for /usr? i wouldn't think so because the file structure could change among different linuces, but just out of curiosity...
[12:45] <caglar_> how do I get a text bar in nautilus instead of the directory icons in under the menu?
[12:45] <mikebot> anto9us, i can check the documentation, one moment
[12:45] <Madpilot> caglar_, Ctrl+L
[12:45] <dabaR> z6bt: I install windows first to the first partition, and then install ubuntu after that. It just works from there on.
[12:46] <mikebot> this is the program btw:
[12:46] <mikebot> http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[12:46] <fade_> anybody here use amd64-based mashine?
[12:46] <Drac[Server] > z6bt, First make a Windows installation, defrag the harddrive in Windows, then use gparted on an ubuntu live CD to resize the partition down to your liking (leave a good amount if it's for gaming). Then install Ubuntu on the remaining space and be sure to say yes to the option to write the GRUB bootloader to the master boot record.
[12:46] <Cryption> I use AMD64
[12:46] <cwillu> !1.0.0.0
[12:46] <caglar_> Madpilot: how do I make it applied for everytime?
[12:46] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, No. Not at all. That's just the next default. Make it swap.
[12:47] <caglar_> because when I click on another folder it gets normal again
[12:47] <fade_> Cryption, do you have installed w32codecs?
[12:47] <mikebot> also, the documentation says this: At present, the program runs only in a computer lab, and only on a PC.  It can run on a MAC with a PC emulator, and on Windows running over VMWare for Linux.
[12:47] <z6bt> Drac[Server] : its not for gaming do you have a suggesstion of how big the partition should be resized?
[12:47] <Cryption> Yes i do
[12:47] <fade_> Cryption, i don't find it
[12:47] <fade_> where?
[12:48] <Cryption> Did you grab them through Synaptic?
[12:48] <fade_> no
[12:48] <z6bt> Drac[Server] : i read somewhere that i dont need to use gparted with a live cd because theres an option to resize during the install is thsi true?
[12:48] <Cryption> What distro are you using?
[12:48] <Lani> and now I'm running Eclipse :)
[12:48] <we2by_> fade_, just found how to do it :)
[12:48] <Madpilot> caglar_, I'm actually not sure - have a look thru Edit->Prefs
[12:48] <Celestianpower> !1.0.0.0
[12:48] <fade_> breezy
[12:48] <Cryption> Ubuntu?
[12:48] <Cryption> k
[12:48] <Lani> is everything this simple?!?!? :)
[12:48] <anto9us> mikebot, it looks like the exe is just an installer, maybe you can decompress the files from it?
[12:48] <fade_> 5.10] 
[12:48] <fade_> 5.10
[12:48] <Drac[Server] > z6bt, it is, but I'd favor gparted. It's up to you.
[12:48] <Cryption> Load up Synaptic (Package Manager) and search for w32codecs
[12:49] <mikebot> Antiquitus, i don't know what that means
[12:49] <mikebot> anto9us, **
[12:49] <Cryption> They are not installed by default
[12:49] <fade_> i'll try
[12:49] <we2by_> 10 more days for the next Ubuntu version.. :\
[12:49] <Cryption> 10 more days?
[12:49] <Drac[Server] > z6bt, if it's not for gaming, and you're not going to install or save much on that partition.. um.. 5GB should be fine. If it's a big drive, give it a bit more. Also consider making a fat32 partiton in the Ubuntu installer's manual editor if you'd like, so you can share files between Windows and Linux via a partition.
[12:49] <Cryption> Try 6 wks
[12:49] <Madpilot> !tell fade_ about w32codecs
[12:49] <we2by_> Cryption, i think so
[12:49] <anto9us> mikebot, try opening the exe with Archive Manager
[12:49] <z6bt> aright
[12:49] <we2by_> wait, that was the realease shedule for fc5
[12:49] <Cryption> April 15th was the Release Date for 6.04
[12:49] <z6bt> thanx
[12:50] <Cryption> Now it is up for delay
[12:50] <we2by_> next ubuntu release will be in April
[12:50] <Lani> allthou I didn't get the latest version :/ ;)
[12:50] <Cryption> Maybe
[12:50] <fade_> Madpilot, i have seen that))
[12:50] <Cryption> Read on launchpad
[12:50] <Cryption> Mark's proposal is there
[12:50] <dabaR> !enter
[12:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:50] <Drac[Server] > Cryption, what's all the hype about Dapper having problems? My various Dapper installations are running fine. o_O
[12:50] <Cryption> and this channel will be used to debate the delay
[12:50] <mikebot> anto9us, Could not open "Logic2K.exe"     Archive type not supported.
[12:50] <Cryption> I don't know
[12:50] <Cryption> My dapper installs function correctly
[12:50] <mikebot> anto9us, or open the install one with it?
[12:50] <dabaR> Cryption: it will be no such thing, there are other ubuntu channels for that.
[12:50] <cshaman> Drac[Server] , i appreciate every bit of help you've given me! should i mark the swap partition as 'primary' or 'logical'
[12:50] <fade_> Cryption, may be i have a trouble with repositories list? i can't find it
[12:50] <Cryption> k
[12:51] <Cryption> I am on FC4 right now
[12:51] <anto9us> mikebot, install cabextract and try again
[12:51] <Kr0ntab> hows everyone doing?
[12:51] <fade_> Madpilot, thanks anyway
[12:51] <Madpilot> fade_, follow the URL the bot sent you - w32codecs are not in Ubuntu repos anymore
[12:51] <Drac[Server] > cshaman, I don't think it matters. I always go with primary, though. You're very welcome. Enjoy your new Ubuntu system. ^_^
[12:51] <stpere> Drac[Server] , Dapper will be supported much longer than older ones have been
[12:51] <Cryption> I'm sorry but I don't have Dapper installed in my VMWare at home
[12:51] <mikebot> anto9us, is that in synaptic?
[12:51] <BBHoss> java should be installed by default in ubuntu
[12:51] <stpere> Drac[Server] , maybe they want to be sure to get it right
[12:51] <anto9us> mikebot, yes, in universe repository
[12:51] <fade_> !w32codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:51] <BBHoss> its a pain in the ass to use all the java-tools and crap to install
[12:51] <Drac[Server] > stpere, ah, I understand. gtk-gnutella doesn't work on it yet, I noticed. >_>
[12:52] <mikebot> sudo apt-get install cabextract
[12:52] <mikebot> ha look at that, first time i figured out a command
[12:52] <anto9us> mikebot, it's just that the program is actually java, if you can extract the java executables they may work
[12:52] <cwillu> SpComb:   found the mystery of the 1.0.0.0
[12:52] <Drac[Server] > Speaking of gtk-gnutella, can somebody PLEASE give me a couple IPs to drop in the "GnutellaNet" section? I really need to get my searches going. x_X
[12:52] <mikebot> anto9us, same error
[12:52] <fade_> Madpilot, there is no packages for amd64
[12:52] <skip> can someone please point me towards a repository (such as antesis) where I can get sun-j2sdk, libdvdcss etc. I've tried a few antesis mirrors and none seem to be working
[12:52] <sorush20> hi guys here to help..
[12:52] <BBHoss> you should just be able to install with apt, and it automaticly make symbolic links for ff
[12:52] <Madpilot> fade_, no, because they're Win32 codecs - you're out of luck if you're running a full 64bit install
[12:52] <Cryption> fade_ Are you using an Athlon64?
[12:52] <anto9us> mikebot, talk with your professor and see if he/she will give you the source code
[12:53] <sorush20> skip: try source-o-matic website
[12:53] <IdleOne> !tell skip  about java
[12:53] <fade_> Madkiss, yes
[12:53] <mikebot>  anto9us ah, it isn't my professor, it's a professor at a diferent university
[12:53] <BBHoss> i hate java anyways
[12:53] <Jimmey__> Guys, I got a serial port terminal, can I use this to install Ubuntu on a monitor-less PC, if I connect to it with an ethernet cable?
[12:53] <sorush20> IdleOne: that was not helpfull..
[12:53] <mikebot> anto9us, is there no way to run this thing in an emulator or anything?
[12:53] <sorush20> skip: !source-o-matic
[12:53] <Madkiss> fade_: wtf
[12:53] <Drac[Server] > All I need is for somebody to start gtk-gnutella, wait a minute, check the IPs that show up in their GnutellaNet section and tell me a couple. If I put one in, it'll lead to a bunch of others and I'll be all set. This is a small bug that has yet to be noticed in the program. :\
[12:53] <fade_> !wtf
[12:53] <ubotu> wtf do you mean, fade_ ?
[12:53] <skip> thanks ppl
[12:53] <BBHoss> trying to get java to work so i can make my grandmother happy
[12:53] <sorush20> !source-o-matic
[12:53] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:53] <Cryption> fade_ If you are using an Athlon64 and your media player is 32-bit they can use the 32bit w32codecs
[12:53] <Madpilot> BBHoss, Sun doesn't allow Java to be distributed that way
[12:53] <anto9us> mikebot, yes, you could install qemu and windows inside of it
[12:53] <IdleOne> sorush20>  why not?
[12:53] <BBHoss> i know, but they should
[12:53] <Cryption> gcj is a OS jvm
[12:54] <mikebot> anto9us, haha well i have dual boot set up, i just didn't want to have to use windows
[12:54] <anto9us> mikebot, qemu is like vmware
[12:54] <Madpilot> BBHoss, the wiki's Java page is fairly easy to follow - have you seen it?
[12:54] <fade_> Cryption, i use fully 64-bit system
[12:54] <BBHoss> yeah
[12:54] <sorush20> IdleOne: he wanted a repository
[12:54] <caglar_> how do I change the location bar of nautilus to a textbox? (not CTRL+L)
[12:54] <mikebot> !qemu
[12:54] <ubotu> from memory, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[12:54] <NickGarvey> what is the command to hardlink something?
[12:54] <IdleOne> sorush20>  he wants to install java sdk
[12:54] <we2by_> how do I change the icons size??
[12:54] <Cryption> fade_, Sorry about that, I assumed you were mixing it up
[12:54] <BBHoss> i got it installed
[12:54] <erUSUL> NickGarvey, ln
[12:54] <BBHoss> after installing all of those packages
[12:54] <dabaR> we2by_: icons on your desktop?
[12:55] <fade_> Cryption, ok
[12:55] <sorush20> we2by_: tell us gnome or kde?
[12:55] <we2by_> yep
[12:55] <we2by_> gnome
[12:55] <Cryption> fade_, Why do you run all 64-bit anyway if you don't mind me asking?
[12:55] <dabaR> we2by_: right click and use an option there. I bet you will guess which one.
[12:55] <tristanmike> we2by_, in nautilus?
[12:55] <BBHoss> another thing that bugs me..
[12:55] <BBHoss> is that the codecs for totem aren't already installed
[12:55] <BBHoss> this is a huge hassle for a new user
[12:55] <we2by_> I want to change the size of the icons on my desktop
[12:55] <Cryption> That is because of legal issues
[12:55] <dabaR> we2by_: right click on one.
[12:55] <Cryption> And differs with the distro
[12:55] <sorush20> we2by_: sorry I don't use gnome? you can try kde its a lot more intuitive..
[12:55] <Madpilot> BBHoss, again, crap like mp3 has legal issues
[12:55] <Drac[Server] > BBHoss, there are.. yeah. Legal issues.
[12:55] <fade_> Cryption, i don't understand...
[12:55] <mikebot> anto9us, well thanks for your help
[12:56] <mikebot> cya
[12:56] <IdleOne> BBHoss>  simple reason is Ubuntu could install EVERYTHING by default but it would take 5 cd install is that what you want?
[12:56] <fade_> my english is not so good
[12:56] <sorush20> we2by_: but to save you installing kde just wait for someone else to help you..
[12:56] <yoda> can someone please tell me where my slave drive has gone after installing breezy after dapper?
[12:56] <Jimmey__> In Gnome, change the icons name to '', and then click on "stretch icon"
[12:56] <BBHoss> why does windows have mp3 support by default
[12:56] <tristanmike> BBHoss, you'd be surprised to find out how many "popular" codecs are encumbered by patent issues
[12:56] <dabaR> we2by_: there is an option, like resize icon.
[12:56] <Madpilot> BBHoss, because MS pays for it
[12:56] <tritium> BBHoss: they pay the licensing fees
[12:56] <BBHoss> ok
[12:56] <Drac[Server] > BBHoss, Microsoft licenses all sorts of crap. Complain to Microsoft if you care so much. It's their fault. :P
[12:56] <BBHoss> can't we write our own mp3 codec?
[12:56] <tristanmike> BBHoss, because Microsoft has payed for the royalties and in turn, you pay them
[12:56] <anto9us> yoda, it won't have gone anywhere, it's just not mounted
[12:56] <cwillu> bbhoss, it's a patent issue
[12:56] <sorush20> yoda: try to type df see what is mounted..
[12:56] <sorush20> yoda: sudo df
[12:57] <cwillu> if you write one, you owe the patent holder a fee
[12:57] <tristanmike> BBHoss, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:57] <BBHoss> why can you apt-get the codecs ten
[12:57] <Drac[Server] > BBHoss, that wouldn't be legal. Microsoft is evil, yes? :)
[12:57] <yoda> ok i'll try
[12:57] <cwillu> even if you discover it independantly
[12:57] <we2by_> thanks :=)
[12:57] <erUSUL> BBHoss, there are a lot of ones but still they use patented tecnology
[12:57] <tristanmike> BBHoss, that's with a sudo, and it's with breezy
[12:57] <Cryption> Microsoft allows the W32 codecs to be distributed
[12:57] <dabaR> we2by_: $20.
[12:57] <BBHoss> brb
[12:57] <yoda> its not mounted... how do i mount it?
[12:57] <Cryption> That's why
[12:58] <Madpilot> !tell yoda about mount
[12:58] <dabaR> Cryption: says who they allow that?
[12:58] <Cryption> And the MP3 codecs are technically not legal, thus the reason they are not usually included
[12:58] <tristanmike> Cryption, no they don't, technically you have to own a copy of windows to use their codecs and even that's sketchy
[12:58] <we2by_> dabaR, that is cheap for such a great support
[12:58] <Celestianpower> IdleOne: Synaptic and apt work!
[12:58] <Celestianpower> :D
[12:58] <Celestianpower> cwillu is a superstar :)
[12:58] <IdleOne> Celestianpower>  happy to hear :)
[12:58] <sorush20> yoda: i would recommend a little reading on the man mount.. but generally sudo mout /dev/hd?
[12:58] <fade_> !kde
[12:58] <ubotu> kde is, like, totally, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:58] <tristanmike> Cryption, same with the fonts, that's why they've been removed
[12:58] <Drac[Server] > I REALLY need those GTK-Gnutella IP addresses... D:
[12:58] <sorush20> yoda: i would recommend a little reading on the man mount.. but generally sudo mout /dev/hd? /media/hd?
[12:58] <Cryption> The way I understood it is that they are distributed under a license that is quite broad
[12:58] <cwillu> IdleOne, if you ever hear somebody else with the same problem, hit up !1.0.0.0
[12:59] <Cryption> They were doing the same with their Fonts remember, until they decided to be evil about that ;)
[12:59] <IdleOne> cwillu>  k lemme check it out
[12:59] <tristanmike> Cryption, they are much more evil about their video ;)
[12:59] <Cryption> The MS TrueType fonts was by them initially
[12:59] <Cryption> oh ok
[12:59] <Felesh> hi
[12:59] <Cryption> News to me
[12:59] <IdleOne> cwillu>  Ill try to remember that
[12:59] <yoda> i'm missing the mtab and fstab folders... that was where it looked
[01:00] <Cryption> I don't really care because I don't usually need to use the windows codecs
[01:00] <Felesh> is hope that the next ubuntu will have the new xgl of novell????
[01:00] <Cryption> ;)
[01:00] <we2by_> http://www.cinaq.net/Screenshot.png <-- my Ubuntu desktop. installed today
[01:00] <tristanmike> Cryption, i suppose uber-technically, you should extract the codecs yourself, but who can be bothered :P
[01:00] <Cryption> XGL is not stable yet
[01:00] <gean> bye-bye all ! May the spirit of ubuntu be with you !
[01:00] <Cryption> And will most likely be ready this Fall
[01:00] <tristanmike> !tell Felesh about xgl
[01:00] <sorush20> yoda: do you know about tab completing my name ?
[01:00] <fade_> i have mounted ntfs-drives, but i can't read it. it says, i haven't enough access
[01:00] <tristanmike> Felesh, see your pm for all the xgl glory
[01:00] <Cryption> It is under heavy dev, and many of the vid cards don't have DRI support yet
[01:00] <Cryption> and won't for several months
[01:00] <yoda> ???
[01:00] <tristanmike> Cryption, but it is available for dapper
[01:00] <Cryption> Yes
[01:01] <BBHoss> back
[01:01] <BBHoss> alright
[01:01] <Cryption> It is available in FC5, Novell 10.1 as well
[01:01] <Cryption> But not on by default
[01:01] <IdleOne> yoda type soru and hit tabkey
[01:01] <tristanmike> it's beautiful :')
[01:01] <yoda> ok
[01:01] <BBHoss> having trouble with the codecs i installed
[01:01] <Cryption> You have to enable it at your own risk
[01:01] <Cryption> ;)
[01:01] <tristanmike> for that, I'll take the risk :P
[01:01] <cwillu> it also doesn't like 16bit mode, which is all I have :(
[01:01] <BBHoss> i have totem set up correctly in ff
[01:01] <dan_> anything good i can do on linux over XP?
[01:01] <Cryption> Well you should look up whether you vid card is supported
[01:01] <Celestianpower> How come inform doesn't appear in the applications list after getting it with Synaptic?
[01:01] <Cryption> nVidia does not
[01:02] <Cryption> Only ATI
[01:02] <tristanmike> BBHoss, for video streaming "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[01:02] <BBHoss> when i try to go to break.com, it always like segfaults or something
[01:02] <Cryption> nVidia is working on their closed DRI implementation for their drivers as we speak
[01:02] <yoda> sorush20: i get it now...
[01:02] <sorush20> yoda: so do I
[01:02] <tristanmike> BBHoss, works for me :)
[01:02] <Cryption> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html
[01:02] <Felesh>  i know what is xgl, and how can i install, but, i want to know if is hope that in the next ubuntu (drapper) xgl will be stable?
[01:02] <cwillu> I'm read that you can use the current prop nvidea drivers with xgl via mesa
[01:03] <yoda> does anyone know what it means when you dont have a fstab folder of mtab folder
[01:03] <Cryption> Shuttleworth Proposes Delaying Ubuntu Dapper
[01:03] <BBHoss> so mplayer is better than totem?
[01:03] <soLOs> hello all
[01:03] <IdleOne> Felesh>  no it wont be stable
[01:03] <soLOs> i'm new to ubuntu
[01:03] <Cryption> xine is great too
[01:03] <sorush20> Felesh: that would depend on the ati company
[01:03] <void^> all the new eyecandy works with 3d accel only.. which doesn't work with oss drivers for most current boards.. sort of stupid
[01:03] <Cryption> you have to have an fstab folder
[01:03] <IdleOne> soLOs>  welcome
[01:03] <Cryption> it stores your file system information
[01:03] <Cryption> ;)
[01:03] <soLOs> can anyone help me with a problem i have after running ubunto 5.0 live cd?
[01:03] <thelsdj> how do i disable bash completion addon?
[01:03] <sorush20> BBHoss: yes it is
[01:03] <Celestianpower> How come inform doesn't appear in the applications list after getting it with Synaptic?
[01:04] <IdleOne> soLOs>  ask your question
[01:04] <erUSUL> !anyone
[01:04] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:04] <tristanmike> BBHoss, better? well it does handle the streaming internet better
[01:04] <gabe> whats up
[01:04] <gabe> hos
[01:04] <gabe> POOP
[01:04] <gabe> POOOOOOOOOOP
[01:04] <gabe> sadklfasf
[01:04] <gabe> poooooooop
[01:04] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:04] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:04] <Celestianpower> And what's with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i10031 ? I can Skype perfectly...
[01:04] <Jimmey__> Guys, I got a serial port terminal, can I use this to install Ubuntu on a monitor-less PC, if I connect to it with an ethernet cable?
[01:04] <IdleOne> errrr
[01:04] <yoda> does anyone know what it means when you dont have a fstab folder of mtab folder
[01:05] <Cryption> 6.04 Flight 5 was released today
[01:05] <IdleOne> Seveas>  he left :/
[01:05] <soLOs> ok thanks. i using dell inspiron 1100 but i can't seem to change the screen resolution...
[01:05] <soLOs> whats the problem?
[01:05] <Seveas> IdleOne, I saw - thanks anyway for poking 
[01:05] <IdleOne> no problem
[01:05] <Cryption> X doesn't recognize your screen
[01:05] <Seveas> anto9us, ?
[01:05] <Cryption> that is the problem with your Dell Laptop
[01:05] <thelsdj> anyone know how to disable the bash completion stuff?
[01:05] <AMCDeathKnight> guys I want to clear some hard drive space up what directories can I clean up?
[01:06] <anto9us> Seveas, in offtopic
[01:06] <Celestianpower> How come inform doesn't appear in the applications list after getting it with Synaptic?
[01:06] <Celestianpower> And what's with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i10031 ? I can Skype perfectly...
[01:06] <soLOs> Cryption yes i noticed. is there a way to fix it?!
[01:06] <cwillu> thelsdj, /etc/bash.bashrc, and look it up on google;  there's quite a few things to play with there
[01:06] <LjL> AMCDeathKnight: probably the contents of /var/log, and you could run "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:06] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks
[01:06] <erUSUL> !tell soLOs about fixres
[01:06] <LjL> AMCDeathKnight: do not remove the *directories* in /var/log though
[01:06] <AMCDeathKnight> Hmm
[01:06] <linuxN00B> HI I am having problems instaling a flash player I went to the ubuntu user guide and input  sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and that did not work
[01:07] <linuxN00B> any ideas
[01:07] <linuxN00B> ?
[01:07] <Madpilot> Celestianpower, not everything has a menu entry by default
[01:07] <AMCDeathKnight> Couldnt find clean package
[01:07] <IdleOne> !tell linuxN00B  baout repos
[01:07] <erUSUL> thelsdj, edit your bashrc
[01:07] <Celestianpower> Madpilot: Oh - can I create one?
[01:07] <tristanmike> !tell linuxN00B about flash
[01:07] <LjL> AMCDeathKnight: uh?
[01:07] <Felesh> linuxN00B, you need a beet repository
[01:07] <AMCDeathKnight> Someone told me to apt-get clean
[01:07] <IdleOne> !tell linuxN00B  about repos
[01:07] <Madpilot> Celestianpower, yes - right-click on the menu, hit Edit Menus
[01:07] <z6bt> hey tell me if this pick up line will work
[01:08] <thelsdj> thanks guy, i found Alt+/ which appears to get around file type restrictions so that should be good for me
[01:08] <LjL> AMCDeathKnight: yeah, i did. did you by any chance type "sudo apt-get install clean"?
[01:08] <z6bt> whopps wrong channel
[01:08] <z6bt> sorry
[01:08] <Mosi> does anyone know where i can get plugins for quicktime and flash for Mozilla that will work on PowerPC?
[01:08] <AMCDeathKnight> Yes
[01:08] <iguel>  /server irc.fansub-irc.org
[01:08] <LjL> AMCDeathKnight: which is wrong - "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:08] <ozrg> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:08] <AMCDeathKnight> It goes back to prompt
[01:08] <dabaR> !flash
[01:08] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:08] <whiter> hello, in gnome how can i make the menu bigger
[01:08] <whiter> its very small now, i want the icons bigger and such
[01:08] <Felesh> AMCDeathKnight, apt-get clean, drop all the files that you have downloaded with apt in the past
[01:08] <LjL> ozrg: ubuntu ships with Gnome, kubuntu with KDE
[01:08] <AMCDeathKnight> i c
[01:09] <dabaR> whiter: change the resolution is one way.
[01:09] <whiter> hm
[01:09] <whiter> i dont think thats it
[01:09] <erUSUL> ozrg, one uses gnome the other kde as desktop envoirment
[01:09] <dabaR> whiter: that is what I do.
[01:09] <whiter> it was fine before i rebooted
[01:09] <whiter> same resolution
[01:09] <wickers> dabaR, no no
[01:09] <IdleOne> whiter>  System > Preferences look in there you will find it
[01:09] <whiter> k
[01:09] <ozrg> gnome and kde whats the difference?
[01:09] <dabaR> wickers: you have a better idea?
[01:09] <Madpilot> ozrg, they're different desktop enviroments
[01:10] <LjL> ozrg: they're two different desktop environment. made by different people, written in different languages, running different programs
[01:10] <whiter> IdleOne what am i to be looking for?
[01:10] <Felesh> AMCDeathKnight, if you want to delete the files with rm, you can drop the .deb files into /var/cache/apt/... directory
[01:10] <yanis> hi, is there any virtual package to install the whole kde desktop at my ubuntu5.10?
[01:10] <IdleOne> whiter>  anything to do with appearence?
[01:10] <wickers> dabaR, whiter, system > preferences > file management > icon size
[01:10] <tristanmike> ozrg, the difference is basically how everything looks and interacts
[01:10] <erUSUL> ozrg, too long to tell shortly without gross simplification
[01:10] <looksaus> hi, question about dapper and via chipsets
[01:10] <cwillu> !kubuntu
[01:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:10] <whiter> heh
[01:10] <ozrg> which one is better?
[01:10] <LjL> yanis: kubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <Madpilot> yanis, kubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <yanis> thanks
[01:10] <FlannelKing> ozrg: neither.  theyre different.  Suiting different niches.
[01:10] <Madpilot> ozrg, better is a matter of debate :P (and holy wars)
[01:10] <tristanmike> ozrg, that is a matter of preference
[01:10] <LjL> ozrg: if one was definitely "better", ubuntu would only ship one
[01:10] <erUSUL> ozrg, the one you like much
[01:10] <ozrg> lol
[01:10] <dabaR> wickers: you tested that?
[01:11] <wickers> just now.. and it does not work.
[01:11] <wickers> :(
[01:11] <dabaR> ya:)
[01:11] <tristanmike> ozrg, use both and decide for yourself, most apps are interchangeable between the two
[01:11] <IdleOne> ozrg>  did you get your answer? lol
[01:11] <dabaR> wickers: I just change the resolution size, and make the icons a little smaller.
[01:11] <Celestianpower> Where does Synaptic save programs?
[01:11] <looksaus> I managed to force dapper to install onto my via 82c586 chipset based machine
[01:11] <wickers> you could always increase the panel size...
[01:11] <ozrg> yes, got my answer thanks a lot! :))
[01:12] <LjL> Celestianpower: in /var/cache/apt i would think
[01:12] <ozrg> but i have a problem when installing ubuntu
[01:12] <looksaus> after adding pci=noacpi and ide=nodma command line options at startup
[01:12] <wickers> but that only changes the icon size of the panel icons, not the menu
[01:12] <ozrg> the canderas dos appears.
[01:12] <FlannelKing> So, what do you guys think about the proposed delay in dapper?
[01:12] <looksaus> but the installed system hangs on boot
[01:12] <LjL> ozrg: ... the what does what? =)
[01:12] <linkd> FlannelKing: delay?
[01:12] <dabaR> wickers: which would perhaps change the menu size. THose are all good ideas, though.
[01:12] <looksaus> any suggestions?
[01:13] <whiter> wickers i dont see 'icon sisze'
[01:13] <AMCDeathKnight> My ipod has a Backup/Movies directory. I also have a partition on my computer named Scratch where I save stuff that I can share between Windows and Linux. How do I set up rsync to keep the Scratch Movie directory up to date with the ipod Movies directory?
[01:13] <IdleOne> FlannelKing>  if it means that it will be more stable. I'm all for it :/
[01:13] <wickers> whiter, yeah, I'm not sure...
[01:13] <tristanmike> FlannelKing, I think that's a perfect discussion for -offtopic :)
[01:13] <wickers> it should be simple.
[01:13] <wickers> maybe in gconf
[01:13] <FlannelKing> tristanmike: I don't see how it would be offtopic.
[01:13] <whiter> oh i see it
[01:13] <ozrg> when I try installing ubuntu, boot it from the cd, i get a dos screen which only allows me to type commands
[01:13] <whiter> didnt work though
[01:13] <tristanmike> FlannelKing, because this is strictly a support channel
[01:13] <dabaR> wickers: I do not expect it to be possible at all.
[01:13] <LjL> FlannelKing: look at the topic, it says "official ubuntu support channel". is that a support question? :)
[01:13] <whiter> ozrg, thats not a dos screen...
[01:13] <IdleOne> FlannelKing>  here is for help there is for talk :)
[01:14] <FlannelKing> psh.
[01:14] <Madpilot> ozrg, try typing "startx"
[01:14] <Madpilot> ozrg, with no quotes around it
[01:14] <BBHoss> are you passing any boot commands? or are you just pressing enter?
[01:15] <CrackersKeenan> quick question for everyone: if i upgrade from hoary to breezy, will my home directory be overwritten?
[01:15] <looksaus> CrackersKeenan, no
[01:15] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[01:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:15] <Mosi> CrackersKeenan: no
[01:15] <CrackersKeenan> as far as i know i didn't put /home on a different partition
[01:15] <ozrg> whiter: what is it then? they have told me that it has nothing to do with linux.. would typing startx work?
[01:15] <CrackersKeenan> ok thanks looksasus andmosi
[01:15] <whiter> ozrg i dont know, never tried the live cd
[01:16] <LjL> is it just me, or the !upgrade factoid doesn't make much sense right now?
[01:16] <ozrg> its installation cd.
[01:16] <whiter> they said it isnt a linux question because you said "dos"
[01:16] <whiter> technically its a terminal
[01:16] <Celestianpower> Oh no
[01:16] <AMCDeathKnight> ....
[01:16] <IdleOne> ozrg>  pop in the install cd and hit enter for the default installation
[01:16] <Mosi> CrackersKeenan: if you're really worried about it, just tar -cf /.home_backup.tar ~$LOGNAME
[01:16] <tristanmike> ozrg, did you press "enter" at the boot prompt ?
[01:16] <megaherz> is there anyone familiar with cvs who can help a man that is about to lose his mind? please!
[01:16] <ozrg> i havent
[01:17] <ozrg> let me try that
[01:17] <Celestianpower> I just accidentally removed the applications, places and settings menus from my top panel
[01:17] <ozrg> ill commit suicide if that works
[01:17] <Celestianpower> How do I get them back?
[01:17] <Mosi> CrackersKeenan: er, no -f.  tar -c /.home_backup.tar ~$LOGNAME
[01:17] <IdleOne> ozrg>  also good idea to read what is on the screen :)
[01:17] <cwillu> megaherz:  I have a passing familiarity with it
[01:17] <anto9us> Celestianpower, right click, add to panel
[01:17] <BBHoss> don't commit suicide
[01:17] <ozrg> ok thanks
[01:17] <cwillu> although the loosing one's mind thing is typical of cvs :p
[01:17] <BBHoss> killall self :)
[01:17] <tristanmike> lol @ BBHoss
[01:17] <Celestianpower> anto9us: Okay
[01:18] <IdleOne> BBHoss>  does that work?
[01:18] <IdleOne> heh
[01:18] <champ> anyone know where i can download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip at? I am getting 2kb/s off ubuntu.com
[01:18] <anto9us> Celestianpower, add the menu bar
[01:18] <megaherz> I've been fighting for a couple of hours trying to setup a pserver that I could use locally
[01:18] <BBHoss> if you have a program named self thats hooked up to your heart, yes
[01:18] <megaherz> I followed several tutorials and checked the docs without any results
[01:18] <Celestianpower> anto9us: Yay! Thanks!
[01:19] <megaherz> I always get Connection Refused
[01:19] <looksaus> hm, I have a system here that locks up hard after having installed just fine
[01:19] <BBHoss> whats the problem
[01:19] <BBHoss> megaherz
[01:19] <champ> anyone know where i can download Ubuntu VMWare Player Virtual Environment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip at? I am getting 2kb/s off ubuntu.com
[01:19] <megaherz> I try to setup pserver to access my local cvs repository
[01:19] <IdleOne> !vmware
[01:19] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:20] <BBHoss> and you get connection refused>
[01:20] <megaherz> yup
[01:20] <BBHoss> does local mean on the same computer
[01:20] <megaherz> yes
[01:20] <BBHoss> hmm
[01:20] <quickblaine> hi all, im a bit of a noob, and i need some help, what shud i do?
[01:21] <anto9us> quickblaine, just ask :)
[01:21] <erUSUL> !help
[01:21] <champ> anyone know where i can download Ubuntu VMWare Player Virtual Environment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip at? I am getting 2kb/s off ubuntu.com
[01:21] <IdleOne> quickblaine>  start by asdking a question
[01:21] <Mosi> quickblaine: you should ask your wuestion so we can help you :P
[01:21] <exacube> get a 9mm gun
[01:21] <megaherz> the steps seem very straightforward, but there may be something missing, I don't know
[01:21] <exacube> and play around with it
[01:21] <tristanmike> ask a question quickblaine
[01:21] <exacube> until *something* happens
[01:21] <bjornkri> !something
[01:21] <ubotu> bjornkri: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:21] <bjornkri> ah, just curious
[01:22] <megaherz> if I intended to just backup my code, I could use the command line
[01:23] <megaherz> but I'm developing on Eclipse, and I can't just use the local commands, it only supports rsh or pserver
[01:23] <quickblaine> right, basically i installed ubuntu about 2 hours ago, expert installation cos i didnt wanna lose windows. for some reason it wont pick up my mouse and i have to use my trackpad (how do i fix that) and also, when i try to open a number of different apps, like add new apps and networking, nothing happens. i need networking to setup my wifi card
[01:23] <BBHoss> try rsh to you local setup then
[01:23] <champ> anyone know where i can download Ubuntu VMWare Player Virtual Environment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip at? I am getting 2kb/s off ubuntu.com
[01:23] <IdleOne> !tell quickblaine  about mouse
[01:23] <IdleOne> !tell quickblaine  about wifi
[01:23] <BBHoss> quit spamming champ
[01:23] <megaherz> could do that...
[01:23] <IdleOne> !tell quickblaine  about repos
[01:24] <LjL> quickblaine: that, i think, is a consequence of you chosing the "expert" mode. the "expert" mode creates a root password, which interferes with the working of control panel applets
[01:24] <megaherz> I'll be back, after some swearing ;)
[01:24] <BBHoss> ok
[01:24] <LjL> quickblaine: by the way, as far as i know, "normal" install is definitely not going to destroy your windows.
[01:24] <looksaus> hm, I just wiped my parents' old debian machine and installed dapper, not without hickups
[01:24] <quickblaine> thats what it said inside the CD sleeve
[01:24] <skreet> Does Ubuntu have *any* NTFS write support. And if not does anyone know where I can go to impliment such a feature?
[01:24] <nscheper> could someone point me in the right direction for info on setting up an SMP kernel in a new ubuntu install?  I can't seem to find a simple HOWTO.  I'm running a dual PIII-800
[01:24] <LjL> !tell quickblaine about root
[01:24] <champ> anyone know where i can download Ubuntu VMWare Player Virtual Environment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip at? I am getting 2kb/s off ubuntu.com
[01:25] <IdleOne> skreet>  ntfs is read only
[01:25] <LjL> quickblaine: that site should explain you how to remove the root password
[01:25] <looksaus> -> had to throw undocumented pci=noacpi ide=nodma at the installer
[01:25] <skreet> IdleOne: There has to be write support somewhere..?
[01:25] <erUSUL> skreet, look for captive driver iirc
[01:25] <tristanmike> quickblaine, that is poor wording
[01:25] <tristanmike> quickblaine, on the sleeve that is
[01:25] <IdleOne> skreet>  no there doesnt ...ask windows about it
[01:25] <looksaus> the machine is installed now, but the kernel gives a hard lock in a very early stage
[01:25] <looksaus> any suggestions?
[01:26] <quickblaine> soz about my wording lol, thanks very much all will check out the links now
[01:26] <Jimmey__> He meant the sleve's poor wording.
[01:26] <Jimmey__> *Sleeve.
[01:26] <tristanmike> quickblaine, not your wording, the wording on the sleeve
[01:26] <IdleOne> quickblaine>  start with the repos one
[01:26] <quickblaine> lol
[01:26] <quickblaine> repos one? eh?
[01:26] <IdleOne> repositories
[01:26] <quickblaine> which one is that?
[01:27] <IdleOne> universe/multiverse
[01:27] <quickblaine> oh rite
[01:27] <tristanmike> quickblaine, the "default" installation will let you choose where you want to put it, if there's something there, it will erase it, if you choose to put it on free space, your good to go
[01:27] <quickblaine> should i just remove linux and do it agen?
[01:27] <quickblaine> i havent installed anything new so there nowt lost
[01:27] <IdleOne> quickblaine>  you could do that if you feel more comfortable with it
[01:27] <spoop> what exactly is this new iso out
[01:28] <Jimmey__> quickblaine - You from the UK?
[01:28] <quickblaine> yup
[01:29] <edcorcoran> I Have a total newb question.
[01:29] <quickblaine> so if i reinstall, will i still have to do the mouseand wifi  thing?
[01:29] <tristanmike> and we have an answer
[01:29] <tristanmike> ....probably
[01:29] <edcorcoran> I can't figure out how to search for a file or folder.
[01:29] <Jimmey__> locate <filename>
[01:29] <looksaus> edcorcoran, ubuntu version?
[01:29] <edcorcoran> How do I do it in the GUI?
[01:29] <mikere> edcorcoran: apt-get install slocate
[01:29] <edcorcoran> I'm using Breezy Badger
[01:29] <tristanmike> Places-Search for files
[01:30] <edcorcoran> From Nautilus?
[01:30] <mikere> edcorcoran: then locate <myfile>
[01:30] <looksaus> mikere, the man is asking for a gui tool...
[01:30] <lontong> excuse me, what is service named lpp source:127.0.0.1 with the same destination???using port 631
[01:31] <LjL> edcorcoran: try what tristanmike said
[01:31] <Jimmey__> Something to do with printing, I think
[01:31] <quickblaine> whats the best way to uninstall linux?
[01:31] <LjL> lontong: the CUPS web interface i guess
[01:31] <lontong> i see
[01:31] <mikere> looksaus: bah only as an afterthought.  I'm *sure* he really wants to use CLI tools!
[01:31] <edcorcoran> I don't see "search" in the places bar in Nautilus
[01:31] <Jimmey__> quickblane: I use the liveCD or the install CD to delete the linux partition.
[01:31] <Stormx2> Where does firefox store it's cookies?
[01:31] <edcorcoran> Well, I want to know how to do it in the terminal, eventually. But first I want to learn the GUI.
[01:31] <anto9us> lontong, that's your shared printer
[01:32] <tristanmike> quickblaine, yeah, just delete the linux partitions (both ext3 and swap) then automatically configure the free space
[01:32] <looksaus> edcorcoran, it definitely will be there in Dapper; sorry, no access to a breezy machine right here
[01:32] <imagemaker> I wonder if anyone can help me solve a problem.. on boot, my local filesystems fail to mount
[01:32] <lontong> and what about device sit0 ipv6 tunnel
[01:32] <Xenguy> edcorcoran: if you have fast hardware, 'krusader' is a decent file manager (does nautilus not have a search function?!?)
[01:32] <anto9us> lontong, that's so you can access ipv6 addresses
[01:32] <Xenguy> bbl
[01:32] <tristanmike> edcorcoran, Place - Search for Files   on the menu bar
[01:32] <erUSUL> imagemaker, any error msg?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2, In your profile folder somewhere (~/.mozilla), not sure of the subfolder structure.
[01:33] <lontong>  why i ask this, because i cant use synaptic or apt anymore
[01:33] <edcorcoran> I can't imagine Nautilus not having a search function.
[01:33] <Mihir> LjL: this is Siddhartha 211
[01:33] <Xenguy> tristanmike: phew
[01:33] <Mihir> LjL: are you there
[01:33] <anto9us> lontong, what do they say to you?
[01:33] <IdleOne> !1.0.0.0
[01:33] <ubotu> 1
[01:33] <LjL> Mihir: yes
[01:33] <edcorcoran> It's like a on OS not having a compiler.
[01:33] <linuxN00B> Thanks everyone for the Help!
[01:33] <edcorcoran> It just doesn'6t make any sense.
[01:33] <linuxN00B> Thankyou
[01:33] <Mihir> LjL: What you told me to do didn't work, they said that they couldnt find /media/floppy
[01:33] <anto9us> edcorcoran, you have search, it's on your places menu
[01:33] <erUSUL> edcorcoran, Places->Search in menubar
[01:33] <lontong> i`ll show the output ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:33] <edcorcoran> Thanks!
[01:33] <edcorcoran> I found it.
[01:34] <lontong> please help
[01:34] <flummoxed> come someone please help me with this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=814660#post814660
[01:34] <edcorcoran> I was looking at the Places sidebar in Nautilus, not the Places menu on the main menu.
[01:34] <edcorcoran> what is the real name for the menubar at the top.
[01:34] <tristanmike> edcorcoran, lol
[01:34] <Mihir> LjL: so i went to Computer, and i saw a floppy icon, and when i double clicked it to mount it, it said that the UDI was the problem
[01:34] <lontong> i used to install proxify but now had uninstalled
[01:34] <flummoxed> im trying to resize my breezy partition and install dapper, but its givin me crap
[01:34] <tristanmike> edcorcoran, ready for this.....The Menu Bar
[01:34] <LjL> Mihir: UDI? i do not know what that is
[01:35] <imagemaker> erUSUL I have only been able to recognise the error on the kubuntu display as the system boots... it simply says mounting local filesystems fail... so ho hum, after some searching around I have not found much at all
[01:35] <Mihir> LjL: any ideas what I should do to mount it
[01:35] <edcorcoran> Makes sense. Thanks tristanmike
[01:35] <Mihir> i tried clicking on /dev/fd0 but it says that it is inaccessible
[01:35] <LjL> can the live cd not mount floppies using "sudo mount /media/floppy"?
[01:35] <tristanmike> edcorcoran, :P lol No probs
[01:35] <Mihir> when i do that
[01:35] <erUSUL> imagemaker, so the boot process fails?
[01:36] <Mihir> it says
[01:36] <anto9us> lontong, check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:36] <flummoxed> can someone please help me with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=814660#post814660
[01:36] <Mihir> state the file system
[01:36] <edcorcoran> I have another question. I'm trying to install Firefox 1.5.0.1
[01:36] <lontong> ok i`ve check it
[01:36] <mikebot> anyone here know any formal logic?
[01:36] <Mihir> so i added that vfat thing but it still didnt work
[01:36] <lontong> and whatshould ?
[01:36] <edcorcoran> I downloaded the tarball from the firefox website, but I'm a little confused on what to do next.
[01:36] <Madpilot> !tell edcorcoran about ff1.5
[01:36] <edcorcoran> SHould I just decompress it and then copy it over the firefox folder in my file system?
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> flummoxed, The one thing I can tell you is that the scsi/sata naming confusion is normal.  As far as the partitioning, it involves lvm and stuff, which I've never tried, so can't really help you there.  Also, when you're not getting an answer, wait a while (I've been told >= 8 minutes), since someone who knows may have joined since you asked last.
[01:37] <imagemaker> erUSUL yes, all the processes succeed other than mounting local filesystems...
[01:37] <Madpilot> edcorcoran, no - see the URL the bot just sent you
[01:37] <flummoxed> does anyone know what the LVM and ext3 filesystems mean?
[01:37] <anto9us> lontong, it should look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[01:37] <LuKe-LuKe> hello, is it possible to run acrobat reader on amd64?
[01:37] <edcorcoran> awesome, checking the link
[01:38] <LuKe-LuKe> also as a plugin to firefox
[01:38] <LjL> Mihir: i'm a bit confused about that. you could try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /any/directory/that/actually/exists".... like, first create a directory, e.g. "mkdir /home/username/floppymount", then "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /home/username/floppymount"
[01:38] <erUSUL> imagemaker, have you tried rescue mode?
[01:38] <mikebot> what do you guys use as a text editor for python?
[01:38] <Jimmey__> Kate's good
[01:38] <looksaus> mikebot, vi? gedit?
[01:38] <Unity> mikebot: vi, emacs, kate, kdevelop
[01:38] <lontong> actually mine is much longer because i added it manually
[01:38] <mikebot> you use more than one?
[01:38] <Unity> mikebot: anything but idle
[01:38] <flummoxed> thanks tony, didnt see that
[01:38] <imagemaker> erUSUL, yes I did, but when there I didnt know what to do.. I ended up reading a load of info on mounting, but didnt find the solution
[01:38] <mikere> mikebot: I like vim for most purposes - kates good too
[01:39] <mikebot> Unity, how can i get vi?
[01:39] <lontong> because needed for instyalled previous software
[01:39] <Unity> mikebot: type `vi` at a shell
[01:39] <quickblaine> whats the windows command for the thing where you edit partitions?
[01:39] <flummoxed> but still... anyone else know?
[01:39] <anto9us> lontong, sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <LuKe-LuKe> hello, is it possible to run acrobat reader on amd64?
[01:39] <LuKe-LuKe> gparted
[01:39] <mikebot> Unity, ah, thanks
[01:39] <lontong> i`ve done that to
[01:39] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, no experience with that, but evince runs fine
[01:39] <lontong> but with errors
[01:39] <Unity> mikebot: warning, it takes a while to learn
[01:39] <erUSUL> imagemaker, you get to the terminal in recue mode?
[01:39] <mikere> mikebot: if you haven't used vi/vim much you will want to read a tutorial on it.
[01:39] <anto9us> lontong, what errors?
[01:39] <LjL> "a while"
[01:40] <imagemaker> erUSUL yes mate...
[01:40] <mikere> Unity: I teach grade 9/10 students the basics in one lesson.
[01:40] <Unity> mikebot: if you are not willing to learn, you may prefer a graphical editor
[01:40] <mikere> like kate
[01:40] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, I might be telling you something you already know, but it's a really fine and well integrated pdf reader
[01:40] <tristanmike> mikebot, you can type "vimtutor" for vim's tutor
[01:40] <Unity> looksaus: it's not really fine...
[01:40] <imagemaker> erUSUL terminal as root
[01:40] <LuKe-LuKe> looksaus, thanks but i have to view the page on which i can only view the pdf, not download
[01:40] <Unity> looksaus: takes a long time to sample certain pdf pages, and it shows others incorrecly
[01:40] <mikebot> tristanmike, mikere  Unity okay, thanks
[01:41] <mikere> tristanmike: better to google for a tutorial.  I spent 2-3 hours figuring out the vimtutor my first time, lol
[01:41] <erUSUL> imagemaker, try a mount -a
[01:41] <lontong> most of them like this Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages
[01:41] <lontong>   Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refus ed)
[01:41] <looksaus> Unity, file bugs, and be patient...
[01:41] <LuKe-LuKe> looksaus: can i make it with something else that acroread
[01:41] <LuKe-LuKe> ?
[01:41] <coz> has anyone here used root-portal i can;t seem to get it to run under dapper
[01:41] <lontong> and this Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:41] <lontong> this is the last pats E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:41] <lontong> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:41] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, if you can view it, you can also download it
[01:42] <anto9us> lontong, please use my nick, when replying type anto and press tab to complete it, I see now you had a proxy set up
[01:42] <imagemaker> erUSUL thank you, will do that very soon, I wonder if you could tell me the precise syntax to type as I am a bit new to this?
[01:42] <BlueEagle> lontong: are you attempting to atp-get more than once?
[01:42] <erUSUL> lontong, use pastebin
[01:42] <BlueEagle> lontong: Is synaptic or another package manager running?
[01:42] <anto9us> lontong, your proxy setup has caused the problem
[01:42] <Unity> looksaus: or work on it myself, or use acroread
[01:42] <erUSUL> imagemaker, just type "mount -a" (without quotes) and hit enter
[01:42] <lontong> anto9us,i"m sorry this is my first time ion irc
[01:42] <LuKe-LuKe> looksaus: tell me how! this is http://aiw2.uspto.gov/.aiw?Docid=20050264680&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fappft1.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsearch-bool.html%2526r%3D2%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526co1%3DAND%2526d%3DPG01%2526s1%3Dauto.TTL.%2526s2%3Dfocus.TTL.%2526OS%3DTTL%2Fauto%252BAND%252BTTL%2Ffocus%2526RS%3DTTL%2Fauto%252BAND%252BTTL%2Ffocus&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&id
[01:42] <LuKe-LuKe> key=219793498125
[01:43] <anto9us> lontong, no problem :)
[01:43] <LuKe-LuKe> this is a page with us patents
[01:43] <LjL> gaa, is that even a url?
[01:43] <Unity> beautiful link you got there
[01:43] <looksaus> ah, LuKe-LuKe , nice...
[01:43] <LuKe-LuKe> thanks :)
[01:43] <imagemaker> erUSUL thank you very much mate will try it now b4n
[01:43] <LuKe-LuKe> sorry for that
[01:43] <anto9us> lontong, reconfigure your network and make sure your gateway is set to your router
[01:44] <robertj> heya all. I'm running quake3 on breezy and getting a weird delay on input, anyone else got the same config
[01:44] <Mihir> LjL: wait, i create a random directory anywhere and then mount it?
[01:44] <anto9us> lontong, I'm only guessing that this will solve it though
[01:44] <lontong> anto9us, actually i dont have proxy
[01:44] <LjL> Mihir: yeah. (mount *on* it, actually. you mount /dev/fd0 on it)
[01:44] <lontong> anto9us, idont have router
[01:44] <anto9us> lontong, you had one, it's left its configuration
[01:44] <Mihir> wait so i create a directory, and what is the specific command i do?
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Mihir, mkdir
[01:45] <LjL> Mihir: "mkdir /some/directory"
[01:45] <lontong> anto9us, i used to configure proxify, but i ve uninstall it
[01:45] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, looking at it...
[01:45] <LuKe-LuKe> thanks ..
[01:45] <anto9us> lontong, that's the problem, your system is still looking for it
[01:45] <Mihir> LjL: thats the command to make the directory
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Mihir, Yeah, just read that.
[01:45] <Mihir> LjL: but how do i mount fd0 on top of that?
[01:45] <Mihir> LjL: what is the command for that
[01:45] <anto9us> lontong, make sure the gateway is set to your network card
[01:46] <lontong> BlueEagle, syn/apt isnot running when i use it
[01:46] <swim> hey folks what do you all use on breezy, for music playback?
[01:46] <LjL> Mihir: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /some/directory". i did say this though
[01:46] <anto9us> lontong, this is usually eth0
[01:46] <Jimmey__> I use Xfmedia
[01:46] <lontong> anto9us, yes i can see etho
[01:46] <BlueEagle> lontong: Then it might be a lock file left by an unclean shutdown perhaps.
[01:46] <ardchoille> Anyone know where I can get some debian artwork besides the *-look.org sites?
[01:46] <anto9us> lontong, wait, I'll see what I can find out about proxify
[01:47] <murtun> hey all
[01:47] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, as explained in the manual on the site, these are tiff files
[01:47] <Jimmey__> Yes. I-R-R-tist.
[01:47] <BlueEagle> lontong: ps aux|grep apt
[01:47] <lontong> BlueDevil, opps last time syn is running this is the update result W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:47] <lontong> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:47] <murtun> what kinda power management (laptop wise) does ubuntu use..
[01:47] <LuKe-LuKe> looksaus: where?
[01:47] <looksaus> the images you pointed at...
[01:47] <LuKe-LuKe> sorry
[01:47] <anto9us> lontong, there's no package named proxify
[01:47] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <smo> breezy doesn't seem to see lvm groups that hoary does .. what changes should I be looking for ?
[01:48] <lontong> BlueEagle, wat is ps aux .....?
[01:48] <Phoul> Hello
[01:48] <Phoul> I have a non responding program that i dont know how to kill
[01:48] <murtun> anyone what kinda power management (laptop wise) does ubuntu uses..
[01:49] <LjL> Phoul: "kill -s 9 pid". you find out the pid by typing "ps aux"
[01:49] <murtun> is there any point downloading some more powermamangement apps?
[01:49] <BlueEagle> lontong: ps lists running processes aux are flags to give useful info and |grep apt searches for strings containing apt (synaptig aptitude apt-get)
[01:49] <lontong> anto9us, are u sure...its proxyify or sumthin to make me invisible
[01:49] <Mihir> LjL: when i try to create a directory it says permission denied
[01:49] <BlueEagle> lontong: for more info type: man ps
[01:49] <BlueEagle> lontong: and: man grep
[01:49] <Phoul> umm
[01:49] <Phoul> its not listed
[01:49] <Jimmey__> sudo mkdir /some/dir
[01:49] <BlueEagle> lontong: man is the command to list the manual pages for commands.
[01:49] <LjL> Mihir: even if you create it in your home dir (/home/username/somedirectory) as i suggested?
[01:50] <Phoul> I thought i killed it before but it just sat there
[01:50] <BlueEagle> lontong: always use man <command> when people tell you to run a command you do not know what does.
[01:50] <BlueEagle> lontong: in this case: man man :p
[01:50] <Mihir> LjL: u suggested /some/directory not home...but lemme try that
[01:50] <Mosi> does anyone know how gnome launches helper applications? i messed up something while trying to upgrade to firefox 1.5, and while i fixed my browser launcher icon in my panel, when i click on a hyperlink in another program nothing happens, i have to manually copy it to a browser window
[01:50] <lontong> BlueEagle, this is the result d1ll1x69 17737  0.0  1.8  18932  9632 ?        S    09:20   0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synapt ic
[01:50] <lontong> root     17741  0.7  0.0      0     0 ?        Zs   09:20   0:12 [synaptic]  <defunct>
[01:50] <lontong> d1ll1x69 18901  0.0  0.1   3668   748 pts/0    R+   09:49   0:00 grep apt
[01:50] <LjL> 01:38]  <LjL> Mihir: i'm a bit confused about that. you could try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /any/directory/that/actually/exists".... like, first create a directory, e.g. "mkdir /home/username/floppymount", then "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /home/username/floppymount"
[01:50] <BlueEagle> ubotu, tell lontong about pastebin
[01:51] <LjL> Mihir: that was what i suggested
[01:51] <looksaus> anyone here with experience with a dapper machine locking up hard (not even kernel panic) on a via chipset?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> lontong: You appear to have a stale synaptic still running.
[01:51] <Inc> why's the release delayed?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo kill -9 17741
[01:51] <Inc> songbird?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> lontong: that should end it
[01:51] <Mihir> LjL: Jimmey's sudo method did the trick
[01:51] <anto9us> looksaus, try channel #ubuntu+1
[01:51] <mikebot> what's the terminal command for finding something?
[01:52] <looksaus> anto9us, what is that channel for?
[01:52] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo executes commands as root user, kill kills processes and 17741 is the process id of the defunct synaptic
[01:52] <looksaus> dev releases?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, locate or find, depending what you're doing.
[01:52] <anto9us> looksaus, dapper discussion
[01:52] <LjL> Mihir: good. don't ever do that to a real linux installation though (i.e. live cd) unlesss you know exactly what you're doing.
[01:52] <Madpilot> looksaus, that's the Dapper channel
[01:52] <mikebot> tonyyarusso, i want to find a file with x in its filename
[01:52] <looksaus> anto9us, Madpilot , thx
[01:52] <lontong> BlueEagle,  done that then?
[01:52] <BlueEagle> lontong: ps aux|grep apt
[01:52] <BlueEagle> lontong: just to make sure it's actually dead
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, All files with an x?  Can you narrow that down at all?
[01:53] <Goldfisch> Guys, do you know which part of gnome manages the application tabs at the bottom of the screen? Mine tabs at the bottom are screwed up. They were fine until I restored an account from another system that had the same problem. I want to blow away the .<gnome> config directory in my home account and have it fall back to default. ANy ideas?
[01:53] <mikebot> tonyyarusso, "blah"
[01:53] <BlueEagle> lontong: should return no lines or the line that greps for apt (like the last line you got last time)
[01:53] <lontong> BlueEagle, 09:20   0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[01:53] <lontong> root     17741  0.6  0.0      0     0 ?        Zs 09:20   0:12 [synaptic]  <defunct>
[01:53] <BlueEagle> lontong: hmmm..
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, Oh, got it.  'locate blah'.
[01:53] <bjornkri> I have a program running in background, how can I bring it to the foreground and/or shut it down?
[01:53] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo killall -9 /usr/bin/synaptic
[01:53] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo killall -9 gksudo
[01:54] <anto9us> Goldfisch, do you mean the window list?
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, You can cut down the list too if necessary.  Say you know it's in your home directory somewhere, 'locate blah | grep /home/yourusername'.
[01:54] <mikebot> tonyyarusso, thanks
[01:54] <BlueEagle> lontong: that really ought to finish it. :)
[01:54] <erUSUL> bjornkri, fg %1
[01:54] <mikebot> tonyyarusso, what is grep?
[01:54] <NCLife> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/11/2041240&from=rss   :O
[01:54] <Madpilot> Goldfisch, I think the dot-file you want to nuke is .gnome2 - not sure how much other stuff stores it's settings there, though
[01:54] <NCLife> didnt know that
[01:54] <BlueEagle> mikebot: man grep
[01:54] <flummoxed> is the partition you have your data on supposed to be an LVM partition?
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, If you lose a file the same day you get it though, you'll have to run 'sudo updatedb' to tell locate it's there in the first place.
[01:54] <lontong> BlueEagle, /usr/bin/synaptic: No such file or directory
[01:54] <BlueEagle> mikebot: grep searches and returns strings containing other strings
[01:54] <BlueEagle> umm
[01:54] <randabis> !grep
[01:54] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, randabis
[01:54] <Unity> gnu regular expression parser
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> mikebot, Yeah, man it.  Basically searches and returns.
[01:54] <BlueEagle> !info grep
[01:54] <ubotu> grep: (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep), section base, is required. Version: 2.5.1.ds1-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 126 kB, Installed size: 680 kB
[01:55] <Goldfisch> I can move the file out of the way, and restart X, and if it is bad, restore it. Sound like a plan?
[01:55] <Mihir> LjL: it says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/fd0
[01:55] <Unity> i don't think you can have many packages without grep
[01:55] <Goldfisch> Well...move DIRECTORY out of the way.
[01:55] <BlueEagle> lontong: sudo killall -9 synaptic
[01:55] <mikebot> tonyyarusso, BlueEagle, okay, thanks a lot
[01:55] <lontong> BlueEagle, ,i run ps aux|grep apt
[01:55] <lontong> BlueEagle,  no result
[01:55] <Madpilot> Goldfisch, yeah, just rename the directory
[01:56] <flummoxed> is the partition you have your data on supposed to be an LVM partition?
[01:56] <BlueEagle> lontong: run that twice and if you don't get "no such process" I am out of clues tbh.
[01:56] <BlueEagle> lontong: Well then it should be dead and burried.
[01:56] <Mihir> LjL: u get my message...?
[01:56] <lontong> BlueEagle,  i got synaptic: no process killed
[01:56] <magenet> what the password for root when u install ubuntu freshly
[01:56] <maxie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/ <- flight5 for kubuntu not ready?
[01:56] <BlueEagle> lontong: you can now start a new synaptic session or use apt-get if that was what you were doing. ie. sudo apt-get update
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> ubotu, tell magenet about root
[01:57] <BlueEagle> lontong: The lock should now have been removed.
[01:57] <BlueEagle> mikebot: np.
[01:57] <magenet> o.o
[01:57] <lontong> BlueEagle,  the same error Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:57] <Madpilot> maxie, AFAIK none of the Flight5 isos are ready yet
[01:57] <flux___> su
[01:57] <lontong> BlueEagle,  thats from sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <maxie> maddler
[01:57] <maxie> Madpilot
[01:57] <Mosi> does anyone know how gnome launches helper applications? i messed up something while trying to upgrade to firefox 1.5, and while i fixed my browser launcher icon in my panel, when i click on a hyperlink in another program nothing happens, i have to manually copy it to a browser window
[01:57] <Jimmey__> What's 'AFAIK' mean?
[01:57] <flux___> err, wrong window lol
[01:57] <maxie> the ubuntu ones are you
[01:58] <maxie> Jimmey__, as far as i know
[01:58] <BlueEagle> lontong: I see. You'll need to update a config file or two then. Hang on.
[01:58] <Xal_> Hi
[01:58] <Mosi> Jimmey--: As Far As I Know
[01:58] <Jimmey__> Thanks
[01:58] <maxie> yo maddler
[01:58] <maxie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[01:58] <maxie> er Madpilot
[01:58] <LjL> Mihir: might the floppy be corrupted?
[01:58] <Xal_> I'm trying to reinstall grub with the settings I already have in ubuntu. I'm in a grub console off a recovery shell. What command do I need to use?
[01:58] <LjL> Mihir: was it already formatted, or did you format it before putting the file on it?
[01:58] <lontong> BlueEagle,  yeah, ithink ,the config file from previous proxy thing still mesh it
[01:59] <robertj> is there an updated version of restricted modules for breezy?
[01:59] <sstchur> Anyone know what the "Remote Network" textbox (followed by / 24 in a dropdown list) is in KVpnc?
[01:59] <erUSUL> Mihir, try -t msdos or -t fat (floppys does not use FAT32 usually)
[01:59] <Jimmey__> Xal_: setup (hd0,0)
[01:59] <Mihir> LjL: nope its almost brand new, and even if it wasnt formatted i formatted it from Computer in ubuntu
[01:59] <Madpilot> maxie, I just found the Flight5 Ubuntu stuff - no idea when the Kubuntu ISOs will be up
[01:59] <lontong> BlueEagle,  but dunno what is it or where isit
[01:59] <LjL> erUSUL: oh, right. but shouldn't vfat cover that too?
[01:59] <maxie> yer ;P
[01:59] <maxie> i hate gnome :D
[01:59] <BlueEagle> lontong: which irc client are you using?
[01:59] <maxie> it's the devil + 1
[01:59] <lontong> xchat
[02:00] <lontong> BlueEagle, xchat
[02:00] <BlueEagle> lontong: K.
[02:00] <lontong> BlueEagle,  k?
[02:00] <milhan> hello
[02:00] <IdleOne> heya
[02:00] <erUSUL> LjL, vfat is FAT32 afaik
[02:00] <BlueEagle> lontong: ls /etc/apt   <= post the output to pastebin
[02:00] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[02:00] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:00] <LjL> Mihir: you formatted it and *then* you put the file on it, hopefully ;) anyway, try what erUSUL said
[02:01] <lastent> hi is there anybody here that can help me, i just installed Ubuntu
[02:01] <lontong> BlueEagle, apt-build.conf
[02:01] <lontong> apt.conf.d
[02:01] <lontong> apt-file.conf
[02:01] <lontong> secring.gpg
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list~
[02:01] <LjL> erUSUL: weird, i've got a floppy in my drive that mounts with vfat. perhaps i have formatted it as vfat under ubuntu though, who knows
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list_backup_200603071834
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list_backup_200603071913
[02:01] <NickGarvey> !paste
[02:01] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:01] <BlueEagle> lontong: no, no no!!!
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list_backup_arnie
[02:01] <lontong> sources.list.save
[02:01] <lontong> trustdb.gpg
[02:01] <IdleOne> lastent>  ask you question
[02:01] <BlueEagle> lontong: pastebin
[02:01] <NickGarvey> !tell lontong about paste
[02:01] <lontong> trusted.gpg
[02:01] <lontong> trusted.gpg~
[02:01] <Genfoo> plz kick lontong
[02:01] <BlueEagle> lontong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:01] <flummoxed> will someone please answer my question? is the partition you have your data on supposed to be an LVM partition?
[02:01] <Genfoo> -_____-
[02:01] <lontong> BlueEagle,  have checked that
[02:01] <NickGarvey> !patience
[02:01] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:01] <Xal_> Jimmey__, I tried that command and it says Invalid device requested.
[02:02] <BlueEagle> lontong: use that for pasting directory listings and such.
[02:02] <BlueEagle> lontong: We don't want that in the channel!!
[02:02] <lontong> BlueEagle,  am sorry
[02:02] <Jimmey__> Xal, you need to change the (hd0,0) to suit your hard drive set up, hd0 reffers to the first hard-drive, and the first partition ( I think ).
[02:02] <BlueEagle> lontong: Well you live and learn. :)
[02:02] <NickGarvey> I am able to receive e-mail, but not send it, where should I start looking?
[02:02] <lontong> BlueEagle, my first time on irc
[02:02] <NickGarvey> I host my own e-mail server
[02:02] <gilesw> heya peeps
[02:03] <BlueEagle> lontong: Well read the messages you get from ubotu. :)
[02:03] <Genfoo> NickGarvey, wow
[02:03] <Genfoo> I have the opposite problem
[02:03] <Genfoo> wtf
[02:03] <lastent> hi i just intalled ubuntu, and my first question is, is there any plug in or any program to play mp3s?
[02:03] <NickGarvey> heh
[02:03] <LjL> !tell lastent about mp3
[02:03] <Jimmey__> Xfmedia
[02:03] <BlueEagle> !mp3
[02:03] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: using sendmail or postfix
[02:03] <whaley> lastent: xmms works well
[02:03] <NickGarvey> ?
[02:03] <bjornkri> anyone installed wine with Automatix?
[02:04] <LjL> !automatix
[02:04] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:04] <Genfoo> I use sendmail
[02:04] <gilesw> i'm trying to get ubuntu setup but after the system loading splash i just get a jagged blue line at the top
[02:04] <bjornkri> I just did, but there's nothing called 'wine' installed
[02:04] <bjornkri> Ah, now you tell me
[02:04] <bjornkri> :P
[02:04] <tatters> how do I find what write permission user have in CLI?
[02:04] <Jimmey__> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:04] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: I never got that working, postfix did it for me
[02:04] <maxie> anyone get bcm43xx
[02:04] <maxie> or 34xx
[02:04] <Genfoo> oh
[02:04] <maxie> i forget
[02:04] <starscalling> !upgrade
[02:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:04] <maxie> working on ubuntu
[02:04] <LjL> tatters: ls i guess
[02:04] <Genfoo> NickGarvey, how did u setup your server so you can recieve
[02:04] <maxie> boss's laptop has that shitty chipset, and i can't get it to work :\
[02:05] <BlueEagle> lontong: Well I am sorry, but I have never used proxy on linux so I cannot tell you how to fix it. Try google or the wiki
[02:05] <BlueEagle> !tell lontong about wiki
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: apt-get it, it might work out of the box, I am not sure though
[02:05] <BlueEagle> !wiki
[02:05] <BlueEagle> hmm..
[02:05] <lontong> BlueEagle, i dont see message from ubotu..
[02:05] <Genfoo> NickGarvey, port forwarding is not apt-gettable rofl
[02:05] <IdleOne> wiki.buntu.com
[02:05] <BlueEagle> lontong: Should be a different query window tbh.
[02:06] <BlueEagle> thanks idleone.
[02:06] <IdleOne> wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <mordof> question: i have firefox's download folder set to my desktop.. why is it that every time i download a file, it is halfway on the desktop, and halfway off the left side?
[02:06] <gilesw> i used to run rpm -qa |sort >rpms
[02:06] <AngryElf> where do I stick commands that I want run as root during bootup??
[02:06] <mikebot> is there a way i can make a link on my desktop, and when i open it, it runs terminal commands like cd /blah/blah2/program
[02:06] <gilesw> is there an equivilent on a deb based distro?
[02:06] <lastent> excuse me im using the X-chat how do i send private messages'?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: I ment apt-get postfix
[02:06] <LjL> gilesw: what does that do?
[02:06] <Madpilot> mordof, that's a bug in gnome's desktop - I think it's one of the things that'll be fixed in Dapper
[02:06] <Goldfisch> Well, didn't quite work as planned. However, I deleted the old panel, and created a new one. Net effect: my panel at the bottom is okay now. :)
[02:06] <NickGarvey> port forwarding is a router thing
[02:06] <gilesw> list all your packages
[02:06] <Genfoo> ah
[02:06] <mordof> Madpilot, that sucks
[02:06] <lontong> BlueEagle,  sorry but dont get it
[02:06] <Madpilot> lastent, 1. ask before pm'ing someone - then use /msg <nick> <msg>
[02:06] <gilesw> i installed dapper..
[02:06] <LjL> gilesw: try dpkg --get-selections
[02:06] <Genfoo> NickGarvey, sendmail works perfecto for me :D
[02:06] <BlueEagle> lontong: don't get what?
[02:07] <NickGarvey> to send e-mail?
[02:07] <gilesw> the kubuntu dapper iso
[02:07] <BlueEagle> lontong: oh, the messages?
[02:07] <gilesw> ta lj
[02:07] <lontong> BlueEagle,  message from ubotu
[02:07] <BlueEagle> lontong: That's weird. Are you registered with nickserv on freenode?
[02:07] <mikebot> anyone?
[02:07] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: I don't really know how sending e-mail works
[02:07] <gilesw> inever used a deb based distro before..
[02:07] <Mosi> does anyone know how gnome launches helper applications? i messed up something while trying to upgrade to firefox 1.5, and while i fixed my browser launcher icon in my panel, when i click on a hyperlink in another program nothing happens, i have to manually copy it to a browser window
[02:07] <gilesw> all a bit foreign
[02:07] <NickGarvey> Genfoo: so I am messing with tat now
[02:07] <NickGarvey> !ff1.5
[02:07] <IdleOne> BlueEagle>  dont need to be registered to get msg form ubotu
[02:07] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:07] <BlueEagle> idleone: Well then I don't get it. ;D
[02:07] <lontong> BlueEagle, dunno wat ur talkin but i just entered it, and really my first time
[02:08] <Iceman> how hard to install kernel 2.4.19  to the newest ....
[02:08] <Genfoo> ok this is retarded
[02:08] <Genfoo> NickGarvey, I can't send email to my server
[02:08] <Genfoo> from gmail
[02:08] <Genfoo> PM ?
[02:08] <LjL> !enter
[02:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:08] <BlueEagle> iceman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:08] <mikebot> LjL, how can i make a link that runs terminal commands?
[02:09] <mikebot> LjL, like it opens terminal and runs whatever
[02:09] <alex__> I installed xfce4.2, how could I add it to my gdm sessions?
[02:09] <LjL> mikebot: in gnome you mean? i don't use gnome
[02:09] <BlueEagle> iceman: that should usually do it. However if you're using hoary 2.4.19 might be the newest backport.
[02:09] <mikebot> LjL, yeah.oh
[02:09] <mikebot> LjL, okay, thanks anyway
[02:10] <gilesw> any ideas on how i can debug my xfree problem when kubuntu dapper starts?
[02:10] <BlueEagle> mikebot: make an executable shell script.
[02:10] <gilesw> i've got a nvidia 7800
[02:10] <IdleOne> BlueEagle>  there is no entry for wiki in the bot :P
[02:10] <caglar> will xgl work if you just install it like the wiki tells you to do on a flight 4 dapper?
[02:10] <mikebot> BlueDevil, how do i do that?
[02:10] <gilesw> i looked in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:10] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[02:10] <BlueEagle> mikebot: executable shell scripts works like .bat files in DOS/Win16/32/64.
[02:10] <lontong> ok thanks al guys
[02:10] <lontong> bye
[02:11] <mikebot> BlueEagle, how do i format it though?
[02:11] <BlueEagle> mikebot: Start the file with #!/bin/bash on a single line and enter the commands on separate lines below it.
[02:11] <alex__> gilesw, are you talking to me?
[02:11] <caglar> how do I make my partition appear in network:// (nautilus)
[02:11] <BlueEagle> mikebot: Before you can execute it you need to change the mode of the file so it is executable. You can do that with chmod u+x /path/to/filename.sh
[02:12] <BlueEagle> mikebot: (it's not neccessery but useful to name shell scripts filename.sh)
[02:12] <gilesw> umm to the chan generally
[02:12] <BlueEagle> mikebot: just so you can easily see what it is.
[02:12] <mikebot> BlueEagle, okay, cool, thanks--how do i run it?--double clicking it make it open in a text editor
[02:13] <mikebot> BlueEagle, ah, nevermind
[02:13] <BlueEagle> mikebot: If it starts with #!/bin/bash it should be executed by default iirc.
[02:13] <BlueEagle> mikebot: as long as it is executable.
[02:13] <alex__> how do you add a window manager to gdm?
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikebot: also if you want others to be able to execute the script (but not everybody) concider making a group common to those users and use chmod g+x filename.sh
[02:14] <robertj> is it possible to boot a chroot from grub?
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikebot: for more information on groups: man addgroup and man chown
[02:15] <mikebot> BlueEagle, i'm having trouble makeing it just run one line
[02:15] <BlueEagle> mikebot: oh and man usermod
[02:15] <BlueEagle> mikebot: Let me test that. Just gotta fire up nautilus here...
[02:15] <mikebot> BlueEagle, i'm going to send you a pm real fast
[02:16] <BlueEagle> ok
[02:17] <firstent> can any of u help me installing the xmms?
[02:18] <detinith> i need help with installing rhythmbox..can anyone help?
[02:18] <tatters> how can I find write permission for user apache in group deamons with CLI?
[02:19] <AngryElf> hey all, where can i stick a command so that it gets run as root during bootup?
[02:20] <tatters> chconfig whatever on
[02:20] <detinith> or just how i can install libxml2.so.2
[02:20] <interferon> is dapper released?  update-manager is giving me the option to instlal it
[02:21] <Genfoo> interferon, no
[02:21] <Genfoo> not until april 20
[02:21] <interferon> so what is this, a beta?
[02:21] <Madpilot> detinith, Rhythymbox is installed by default
[02:22] <detinith> is it in synaptic? i can't find it
[02:22] <firstent> madpilot can u help me istalling xmms?
[02:22] <detinith> heheh just found it
[02:22] <detinith> thanks for that madpilot
[02:23] <Madpilot> firstent, xmms is in the repos too- look in Synaptic or "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[02:23] <interferon> Genfoo, if i upgrade to dapper now, will i have to do anything special when the stable version is released?
[02:23] <Genfoo> I don't know
[02:24] <LuKe-LuKe> does anyone knows how can i see tiff files in firefox.mozilla??
[02:24] <randabis> you'll have to dist-upgrade regularly
[02:24] <Genfoo> except that its not super safe to upgrade now interferon
[02:24] <randabis> not super safe, but not super dangerous either
[02:24] <LuKe-LuKe> or make firefox/mozilla download it
[02:24] <^Odd^> !sources
[02:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:24] <randabis> I have to use dapper currently because breezy has no support for my wifi
[02:24] <syrex> hello all,I using ubuntu 5.10 amd 64 and I don't have my refresh rate right (showed in my monitor) but in "screen resulaiton prefences" it's showed ok.how to fix it? thanks
[02:25] <firstent> hey madpilot are u getting my messages (the privates)}
[02:25] <Madpilot> firstent, please ask *before* you start sending pms, thanks
[02:25] <firstent> can i send u?
[02:25] <finurlig> is it safe to do a dist-upgrade at this stage?
[02:25] <firstent> i mean i dont even know how to
[02:26] <Madpilot> firstent, stick with Breezy now, get Dapper when it's finally released
[02:28] <swim> hey folks whats the best way to turn off services from starting at boot that I do not use?
[02:28] <LuKe-LuKe> does anyone knows how can i see tiff files in firefox.mozilla??
[02:29] <LuKe-LuKe> or make firefox/mozilla download it
[02:29] <LuKe-LuKe> ?
[02:29] <Xenguy> swim: isn't there a System - Admin - Services ?
[02:30] <finurlig> swim: aol with Xenguy
[02:30] <looksaus> LuKe-LuKe, if you just save the page, it will be in there...
[02:30] <looksaus> tedious, not practical, but it worked for me
[02:30] <tjb891> does anyone here no how to use ubuntu with a nvidea  TNT2, whenever i isntall it it boot to a black screen afterwords
[02:30] <Frogzoo> !tell tjb891 about xorg
[02:30] <HymnToLife> !tell tjb891 about nvidia
[02:30] <swim> Xenguy, finurlig yah there is but I remember setting it in there once and it not saving after next boot...
[02:31] <Frogzoo> tjb891: run the command ubuntu sent you & answer the questions
[02:31] <tjb891> ok
[02:31] <Xenguy> swim: there's another GUI called 'bum'...
[02:32] <no0tic> openoffice packages on dapper are still broken?
[02:32] <Xenguy> !services
[02:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[02:32] <swim> ok thx Xenguy
[02:32] <Xenguy> swim: yw
[02:32] <no0tic> I'd like to do a dist-upgrade in my dapper, but it would remove OOo
[02:32] <firstent> hey one question i have installed ubuntu in an slave disk, now i cant see the other disk, and i want to use some files in the other disk what can i do?
[02:32] <swim> hmm how about Banshee, is anyone using it successfully in Breezy?
[02:33] <LuKe-LuKe> looksaus: thanks, it realy works. its not nice-working, but working. thank you
[02:33] <Xenguy> firstent: what kind of filesystem is on disk1 ?
[02:33] <Frogzoo> firstent: me thinks you need to double check your master/slave jumpers on the disks - they're on the same ide channel I'm guessing?
[02:33] <slipk> can anyone help me out when i try to update with apt-get update, i get this error message  at the end.......  "..... failed to fetch package, MD5SUm mismatch", can anyone point to a guide how to fix this issue?
[02:33] <CookyPuss> anyone here use gizmo?
[02:33] <Xenguy> firstent: or maybe Frogzoo understands the question better than I did
[02:33] <firstent> no
[02:34] <firstent> they are in different ide
[02:34] <farous> anyone know how to import my mail from evolution to sylpheed?
[02:34] <maxtor> can you helpme?
[02:34] <tjb891> my problem is the ubuntu graphical startup dialog displays and when gnome should start instead i get a black screen with no curser
[02:35] <Frogzoo> firstent: pastebin your /etc/fstab pls
[02:35] <AngryElf> !ubotu dvd
[02:35] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:35] <cshaman> hmm. so after the initial ubuntu installation the installer said to remove disc media and let the computer reboot. i did. it continued unpacking and installng the rest of the packages as it should. but, when it finished, the screen went blank with a '_' cursor in the top left
[02:35] <cshaman> what's up??
[02:35] <Xenguy> tjb891: you could try using the 'vesa' driver until you get the proper one working
[02:35] <farous> !sylpheed
[02:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[02:35] <maxtor> can you helpme please
[02:35] <firstent> frogzoo its the first time i use linux
[02:35] <slipk> can anyone help me out when i try to update with apt-get update, i get this error message  at the end.......  "..... failed to fetch package, MD5SUm mismatch", can anyone point to a guide how to fix this issue?
[02:35] <tjb891> how do i do that
[02:35] <swim> so noone uses Banshee on Breezy?
[02:36] <Frogzoo> tjb891: did you run dpkg-reconfigure ?
[02:36] <farous> slipk: it might be a problem with your mirror. Change to another or use the main repos site
[02:36] <Frogzoo> !tell firstent about pastebin
[02:36] <Frogzoo> firstent: check the pm from ubotu
[02:36] <tjb891> no, i can though, i think i can boot into the kernel
[02:37] <firstent> how do you send that msg that i see in red?
[02:37] <maxtor> hellpmeeeeeeeeeeee pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:37] <tjb891> those are from the server
[02:37] <Frogzoo> tjb891: run the dpkg-reconfigure cmd - it will rewrite your xorg.conf & create proper settings for your monitor
[02:37] <Xenguy> firstent: /msg ubotu help
[02:37] <NickGarvey> firstent: when your name is in the message its in red for you
[02:37] <tjb891> thankyou ill go do that
[02:37] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[02:37] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:38] <firstent> ok
[02:38] <Xenguy> maxtor: stop that - just ask the question already
[02:38] <carpenoctem> hey all
[02:38] <maxtor> how to acelerate graphics with my graphics card?
[02:38] <tjb891> frogzoo: do i just type in dpkg-reconfigure cmd  or does it have some kind of prefix
[02:38] <tjb891> carpenoctem:install the driver
[02:39] <Madpilot> firstent, ask your questions here, not in pm!
[02:39] <Frogzoo> tjb891: will require 'sudo dpgkg-reconfigure...'
[02:39] <maxtor> lspci says  VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[02:39] <carpenoctem> i-m trying to mount a striped windows raid volume, but I can't seem to do it. Any help please?
[02:39] <tjb891> ok
[02:39] <andriijas> how do i make a user crontab that runs every fifth minute?
[02:39] <maxtor> glxindo says  glxinfo | grep direct
[02:39] <maxtor> direct rendering: No
[02:39] <maxtor> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:39] <osz> hello
[02:40] <Frogzoo> andriijas: 0,5,10,15... you get the idea
[02:40] <osz> hello
[02:40] <Nidah> i have this stupid intel camera that doesnt have linux drivers anything i can do to make it work with qnext?
[02:41] <Edgan> carpenoctem: windows server raid, onboard raid, or somethign else?
[02:41] <osz> just wondering if it is possible to force a screen resolution even if its not listed in the display settings module ?
[02:41] <firstent> madpilot i have two disks, i installed ubuntu in the slave, when i am in ubutu i cant get in the master disk
[02:41] <Xenguy> !tell osz about resolution
[02:41] <carpenoctem> Edgan: striped raid configured with two SATA drives
[02:41] <Madpilot> firstent, you need to mount it
[02:41] <Madpilot> !tell firstent about mount
[02:42] <Edgan> carpenoctem: that still doesn't answer the question of what is doing that raid for you
[02:42] <osz> wats !tell ?
[02:42] <Frogzoo> osz: take a look around /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:42] <osz> ok
[02:42] <carpenoctem> windows is, I built it thru Disk Manager
[02:42] <Xenguy> osz: look for a /msg from ubotu
[02:42] <osz> so if u change it would it work?
[02:42] <Frogzoo> osz: !tell makes ubotu send people informational pms
[02:42] <Edgan> carpenoctem: this 2000 or 2003 server?
[02:42] <carpenoctem> XP
[02:43] <Nidah> i have this stupid intel camera that doesnt have linux drivers anything i can do to make it work with qnext?
[02:43] <osz> ok
[02:43] <rob> Nidah, throw it at a wall?
[02:43] <Edgan> carpenoctem: then it isn't windows software raid, sounds like onboard raid
[02:43] <osz> ive neva used irc b4
[02:43] <osz> thats all thanx
[02:43] <flux___> Nidah, write some drivers?
[02:43] <firstent> madpilot and whats this "pastebin your /etc/fstab"  frogzzo told me to do that
[02:43] <maxtor> xorg.conf says Section "Device"
[02:43] <maxtor>         Identifier      "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video"
[02:43] <maxtor>         Driver          "via"
[02:43] <maxtor>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:43] <Nidah> how can i edit my grub file?
[02:43] <Madpilot> !tell firstent about pastebin
[02:43] <Makura> Is there a channel for help with Wine?
[02:44] <Xenguy> !tell maxtor about paste
[02:44] <maxtor> Section "Screen"
[02:44] <IdleOne> #winehq
[02:44] <maxtor>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[02:44] <maxtor>         Device          "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video"
[02:44] <maxtor>         Monitor         "SyncMaster"
[02:44] <maxtor>         DefaultDepth    24
[02:44] <maxtor>         SubSection "Display"
[02:44] <maxtor>                 Depth           1
[02:44] <maxtor>                 Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:44] <Edgan> carpenoctem: What motherboard?
[02:44] <maxtor>         EndSubSection
[02:44] <Makura> IdleOne: Thanks. =] 
[02:44] <maxtor>         SubSection "Display"
[02:44] <maxtor>                 Depth           4
[02:44] <Frogzoo> Nidah: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:44] <flux___> Nidah, /boot/grub/menu.lst i think
[02:44] <maxtor>                 Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:44] <elkbuntu> glah
[02:44] <maxtor>                                                               93,1-8        71%
[02:44] <IdleOne> maxtor>  stop
[02:44] <elkbuntu> !op
[02:44] <ubotu> elkbuntu: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:44] <Delmar> maxtor, pastebin please
[02:44] <elkbuntu> !ops
[02:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[02:44] <carpenoctem> i have both, Intel onboard RAId mounts without a hitch but thru windows I created a dynamic disk and created a volume with the second disk and the remaining space of the first one
[02:44] <elkbuntu> has it stopped?
[02:44] <Mosi> !tell maxtor about pastebin
[02:44] <LjL> maxtor: we don't necessarly like the channel being flooded by your entire 100-lines xorg.conf
[02:44] <Frogzoo> maxtor: please, no pasting thanks
[02:45] <flux___> !tell maxtor about pastebin
[02:45] <firstent> madpilot what is it for?
[02:45] <Madpilot> firstent, it's so you don't flood the channel & get kicked like maxtor just did
[02:45] <Frogzoo> I'm not sure how helpful it is to just summarily boot someone without at least letting them know what they've done wrong...
[02:45] <andriijas> Frogzoo: is that the same as (0-55)/5 ?
[02:45] <Edgan> carpenoctem: if it is a dynamic disk, then it is a no go. You aren't going to be able to mount it under Linux directly. Your only hope is booting off a custom BartPE(Windows boot CD) in VMware.
[02:45] <carpenoctem> I see. well, there goes it then
[02:45] <mordof> how do i change my splash image?
[02:46] <carpenoctem> thx Edgan
[02:46] <Edgan> carpenoctem: you are welcome
[02:46] <Nidah> if there anyway to force strat my intal pc camera on ubuntu without freezing the o/s
[02:46] <tatters> does anyone know how I can read  which permissions user  apache has  in cli ?
[02:46] <Edgan> tatters: permissions?
[02:46] <firstent> madpilot if i mount the other disk, do i have to format it?
[02:46] <flux___> mordof, damn good question that
[02:46] <LjL> Frogzoo: well, personally i'd expect people to *realize* that pasting 100 lines at once on a public channel isn't nice. failing that, they can still ask for an explanation about the kick - which, by the way, is more meant as a way to *stop them from flooding them channel* than as a way to "punish" them
[02:47] <tatters>  if it has permission or not
[02:47] <Madpilot> firstent, not if it's already formatted
[02:47] <tatters> write permission or not ^^^^
[02:47] <mordof> flux___, lol, brb
[02:47] <flux___> mordof, the splash image made me so ill i removed it in favor of plain text
[02:47] <maxtor> how to acelerate graphics with my video card ?
[02:47] <maxtor> please
[02:47] <flux___> maxtor, card brand/model?
[02:48] <Nitro88> good evening
[02:48] <Edgan> tatters: easiest way would be su - apache, then id to get a list of groups it is in. Then figure it out in your head from there. Otherwise you can piece it together by looking at /etc/groups
[02:48] <osz> morning
[02:48] <IdleOne> evening
[02:48] <Frogzoo> LjL: I just think newbs will find just being kicked out of a channel without any warning a little offputting, is all
[02:48] <flux___> afternoon
[02:48] <maxtor> VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[02:48] <Nitro88> i need an advice, for make windows program works
[02:48] <sls> does anyone use gnome photo printer a lot?
[02:48] <Nitro88> is better wine or cedega?
[02:48] <flux___> maxtor, give up now
[02:48] <IdleOne> Nitro88>  use wine
[02:48] <Nitro88> IdleOne
[02:48] <Nitro88> so i've installed a game
[02:49] <IdleOne> Nitro88>  use cedega for games
[02:49] <maxtor>  lspci says  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[02:49] <Nitro88> ok
[02:49] <flux___> maxtor, go buy an nvidia card and curse s3
[02:49] <maxtor> my video card
[02:49] <Nitro88> IdleOne
[02:49] <Nitro88> but the game don't work
[02:49] <IdleOne> Nitro88>  try with wine
[02:49] <LjL> Frogzoo: well, i wouldn't call the standard choir of "stop!" "don't do that!" "use the pastebin!" etc "no warning". it is true that they usually *have no way* to stop pasting once they started, but then again, if they can't stop, the ops make them stop, so that people in the channel can resume talking
[02:49] <Nitro88> it requests some 3D and acceleration values from the Video Card
[02:49] <IdleOne> !tell Nitro88  about wine
[02:49] <flux___> maxie, there are various links to get it to work, hell even i got it working after a few days before it stoped working again and i ripped half my hair out and bought a decent nvidia card.
[02:50] <maxtor> upsssssssss thank you but i dont no have a money $$$$
[02:50] <flux___> mateon, even ^
[02:50] <flux___> maxtor, *
[02:50] <Nidah> i have an nvidia card so far ive not been able to run ubuntu on my nvidia so instead im using my onboard graphic card instead
[02:50] <firstent> madpilot is there any problem if the other partition is ntfs?
[02:50] <Nitro88> ok thanks IdleOne
[02:50] <tatters> apache is in group daemon, but I cannot figure how to find its write permission using shell only , are you saying there is a file containing this user permissions?
[02:50] <Madpilot> firstent, no - but NTFS will be read-only
[02:50] <Madpilot> !tell firstent about ntfs
[02:51] <firstent> madpilot ok thanks
[02:51] <Ropechoborra> Anybody knows if the Breeze LiveCd can redimention an ntfs partition ?
[02:51] <flux___> Nidah, perhaps you needed the kernel source to compile the nvidia driver
[02:51] <LjL> tatters: uhm, users don't have "write permission". *files* do
[02:51] <_nocilis_> can anyone assist me with a few questions?
[02:51] <maxtor> helpme please
[02:51] <Ropechoborra> Anybody knows if the Breeze LiveCd can redimention an ntfs partition ?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> LjL: I see your point - we were good for the whole xorg.conf from the looks of things
[02:52] <Edgan> Ropechoborra: redimention?
[02:52] <LjL> tatters: every file specifies which user owns it and which group it belongs to, as well as what permissions (read, write, execute) the owner, the group and the rest of the world have. that's all there is to it, mostly
[02:52] <Frogzoo> Ropechoborra: yes, but please defrag from doze first
[02:52] <elithrar> I wonder how the new x86 Macs will handle Ubuntu.
[02:52] <syrex> hello all,I using ubuntu 5.10 amd 64 and I don't have my refresh rate right (showed in my monitor) but in "screen resulaiton prefences" it's showed ok.how to fix it? thanks
[02:52] <V4Vendetta> hmm
[02:52] <maxtor> in xorg.conf apear a very lots of things
[02:52] <Ropechoborra> Edgan not good at english =/ MMM need to create a D: without deleting anything in the C:
[02:52] <LjL> tatters: you can see what permissions a file has set by using "ls -l filename"
[02:53] <flux___> maxtor, http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ ... good luck have fun :/
[02:53] <Ropechoborra> Just takin some space from the C: to create a D:
[02:53] <Ropechoborra> Understand?
[02:53] <osz> hello again
[02:53] <maxtor> thanks i try
[02:53] <Frogzoo> maxtor: please don't paste in channel - it makes the channel unusable for everyone else - use pastebin
[02:53] <osz> im trying to find the refresh rates of my monitor but i cant find them
[02:53] <Frogzoo> !tell maxtor about pastebin
[02:53] <Frogzoo> maxtor: read the pm from ubotu
[02:53] <Edgan> Ropechoborra: Reparition/resize, that is something parted might be able to do, but you would be better off using Partition Magic.
[02:53] <freebse> hi is anyone using xgl on dapper?
[02:53] <LjL> !dapper
[02:54] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[02:54] <osz> ive tried using google and the dccprobe
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> Edgan do you know if the Trial version of Partition Magic can do that?
[02:54] <Edgan> Ropechoborra: no idea
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> And if it cant... any other solution?
[02:55] <balu1> so does anyone here use an ATI Radeon 9200
[02:55] <Edgan> balu1: I have before
[02:55] <osz> can i make a guestimate in what my refresh rates are on a monitor cos ddcprobe has nfi
[02:55] <balu1> edgan: on a desktop or lap?
[02:56] <Frogzoo> !tell balu1 about fglrx
[02:56] <balu1> no frogzoo
[02:56] <tatters> so if apache server which I understand goes by the name apache has not write permissions , then surely chmod and chown a folder would not give apache the write permission becuase it is disbled in its user account
[02:56] <balu1> u know ive been reading about it for months now.
[02:56] <Edgan> balu1: desktop, I have a radeon u1 in my laptop
[02:56] <balu1> only way i can ever solve the prob is by finding an identical user
[02:56] <AngryElf> i've got libdvdcss2 installed and xine can play the video streams, but it doesn't recognize the dvd structure (menus, chapters...etc) what do i have to do now?
[02:56] <ccc_> balu1: i have a 9200se on one box
[02:56] <tatters> or is giving a folder write permission enough to give apache the server write permission?
[02:56] <Frogzoo> balu1: have you tried the updated fglrx from the seveas repo?
[02:56] <balu1> ccc_ : is it the shared kind??
[02:57] <AngryElf> !ubotu libdvdcss2
[02:57] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:57] <wickers> does anyone here know of a good GNUcash-like program?
[02:57] <balu1> frogzoo: i have tried everything as of last motnh. exhausted it all.
[02:57] <wickers> Hoping for something that's not gnome1
[02:57] <ccc_> balu1: shared?
[02:57] <balu1> ccc_: the onboard, shared ram
[02:57] <ccc_> oh, no.
[02:57] <mikeazorin> where does wine put it's c directory on ubuntu? it's not in /usr/local/wine_c like it says in the docs
[02:57] <balu1> ati radeon 9000 IGP
[02:57] <LjL> tatters: *if* the file/folder is owned by the relevant user ("apache" i assume), then a chmod +r will give it write permissions
[02:58] <LjL> tatters: i meant chmod +w
[02:58] <Greyscalefox> Hello, does anyone have any time to help me with my network problem?
[02:58] <BBHoss> maybe in ~/.wine
[02:58] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[02:58] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:58] <Greyscalefox> True.
[02:58] <mikeazorin> thanks BBHoss
[02:58] <BBHoss> no
[02:58] <BBHoss> we dont have time :)
[02:58] <Frogzoo> Greyscalefox: just state your problem - if someone can help, they will
[02:59] <jjs01h> when i start firefox the touchpad stops responding and i have to ctrl+alt+backspace. i am using the synaptic driver. anyone know what this is about?
[02:59] <Greyscalefox> How would I go about letting the world access my server? The thing is the guides show for a direct connection to the net. There is another computer on the network that serves the 'net to the server. How can I get it to play nice and allow either remote SSH or apache to get through?
[02:59] <balu1> if anyone has used an ati 9000-9200 IGP (onboard, usually in a laptop) vid card. let me know. thanks
[02:59] <Greyscalefox> No, but a 9200 works.
[02:59] <Greyscalefox> Sorry, 9200SE
[03:00] <NickGarvey> Greyscalefox: does your other computer connect to it using a local ip?
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> A local IP being?
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> It has static IP on the network.
[03:00] <balu1> greyscalefox: what do u mean by works?? OPENGL supported?
[03:00] <NickGarvey> 192.168.?.?
[03:00] <NickGarvey> what it is
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> Oooh. It has static IP
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> Not a clue about openGL.
[03:00] <NickGarvey> Greyscalefox: does that one work?
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> Last time I used my 9200 with Gnome all was moving
[03:00] <NickGarvey> Greyscalefox: do other computers on your network connect to it
[03:00] <Greyscalefox> Yes.
[03:00] <FlannelKing> anyone happen to know offhand if the ubuntu installer supports external (serial cable) CDRom drives?
[03:01] <Greyscalefox> At 192.168.0.64
[03:01] <Frogzoo> Greyscalefox: you'll need to nat/redirect from the net accessible host
[03:01] <Greyscalefox> How would I do that?
[03:01] <NickGarvey> Greyscalefox: connect to your router and forward ports 80 and 22 to that IP address
[03:01] <Greyscalefox> (the redirector is a winbox)
[03:01] <Frogzoo> Greyscalefox: which OS on the externally visiable host?
[03:01] <Greyscalefox> Windows.
[03:01] <Greyscalefox> Not my comp.
[03:02] <Greyscalefox> If it were up to me I'd have bought a proper router for this.
[03:02] <osz> ok im trying wat u said xenguy
[03:02] <Greyscalefox> But alas, I live at home and share my parents connection
[03:02] <osz> brb
[03:02] <sterk> what is everyone's favorite binary news client for *nix?
[03:02] <balu1> greyscalefox:  your 9200 SE, is it a sharedvram card?
[03:02] <Engla> binary
[03:02] <Engla> ?
[03:03] <Greyscalefox> No. 128mb fitted
[03:03] <sterk> like newsbin pro for windows
[03:03] <Frogzoo> Greyscalefox: google is your friend
[03:03] <r4zz> yeah, something that can grab yENC binaries from usenet, like powergrab
[03:03] <Greyscalefox> ^_^ How many times I've said that.
[03:04] <NickGarvey> when I send e-mail to myself at ngarvey@nerdshack.com it is received, but when I send to my hotmail and to other people it does not work, what might cause this?
[03:04] <sterk> i've googled pimpin, just thought i would see what the recommendations are looking like
[03:04] <Greyscalefox> But I don't know what I'm searching for. Its like looking in a dictionary with no idea on how to spell the word.
[03:04] <sterk> powergrab ehh? I'
[03:04] <Frogzoo> Greyscalefox: 'windows port forward'
[03:04] <sterk> ll check that out
[03:04] <Greyscalefox> Thanks.
[03:04] <Greyscalefox> =D
[03:04] <r4zz> sterk, that's for windows :P
[03:04] <sterk> ahh,  damn
[03:04] <Munchkinguy> How do I specify permissions when I mount my floppy drive? I'm trying to make it so that every user (not just root) can save files to it, etc.
[03:05] <r4zz> I was just asking the same thing, hoping that two people asking would get a reply ;)
[03:05] <Greyscalefox> Debian people are foul, but its nice to see a pocket of delightfully helpful people willing to help idiots like myself =D
[03:05] <starscalling> well that broke it
[03:05] <starscalling> :P
[03:05] <Edgan> NickGarvey: All kinds of reasons
[03:05] <rg> what is it brazilian ubuntu irc?
[03:05] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: fdutilsconfig
[03:06] <rukuartic> !bz
[03:06] <sterk> i wonder how well newsbin pro would work within wine?
[03:06] <ubotu> rukuartic: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:06] <sterk> anyone tried?
[03:06] <Madpilot> !br
[03:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:06] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: Thank you
[03:06] <r4zz> sterk, might want to try these out: http://www.yenc.org/linux.htm
[03:06] <Edgan> r4zz: pan can do yEnc, but it can't deal with Huge! groups
[03:06] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: yw
[03:06] <r4zz> let me know which one works best :P
[03:07] <rg> obrigado
[03:07] <NickGarvey> Edgan: what might be the most likely?
[03:07] <sterk> r4zz, thanks, i'll check it out
[03:07] <Edgan> NickGarvey: I would need exact details of how everything is setup.
[03:07] <BlueEagle> http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/yenc.html
[03:08] <V4Vendetta> whats the default cups username/password ?
[03:08] <V4Vendetta> !cups
[03:08] <ubotu> from memory, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[03:08] <fadedsun> Ou ubuntu-pt
[03:08] <firstent> madpilot ive done this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNtfsOnBoot?highlight=%28ntfs%29%7C%28mount%29
[03:08] <NickGarvey> nerdshack is a pop e-mail account that is free online
[03:08] <mikeazorin> anyway to run google earth on wine on ubuntu 5.10?
[03:08] <firstent> but it didnt work i think
[03:08] <constantine-xvi> mikeazorin: google winetools
[03:09] <mikeazorin> hokay
[03:09] <Nirvana> Does anyone know the build dependancies of Fx 1.5.0.1? Mozilla build page isn't quite clear
[03:09] <mikeazorin> it's rated garbage on wineapp db
[03:09] <Hysty> mikeazorin, with a lot of stuffin around
[03:09] <grout58> i just downloaded the nerolinux .deb file and its sitting on my desktop, how can i install it?
[03:09] <Hysty> mikeazorin, there are instructions out there to do it
[03:09] <constantine-xvi> out of curisoity, is there any good reason that NetworkManager is not in main?
[03:10] <tatters> drwxr-xr-x <--- if that is the write permission for a folder and was owned by apache then would apache be able to rite to it?
[03:10] <rukuartic> grout58: sudo dpkg-i <your file>
[03:10] <rukuartic> grout58: sorry, sudo dpkg -i <your file>
[03:10] <Frogzoo> mikeazorin: winetools indeed is not garbage but rocks - just be sure to use the stock wine repo NOT sourceforge
[03:10] <heyjoe2> Hi there. I was wanting some instruction on how to mount a 128mb usb flash drive. Breezy Badger doesn't seem to be reocgnizing it. When i plug it in and type mount i get: http://pastebin.com/597315
[03:11] <Frogzoo> heyjoe2: ordinarily you shouldn't have to mount at all - just plug it in
[03:11] <constantine-xvi> winetools helps you set all sort of windows software, sort of like APT for wine
[03:11] <carl> can someone help please
[03:11] <rukuartic> heyjoe2: checked /media?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> heyjoe2: try 'tail -f /var/log/messages'  - then plugin the usb & see what gets reported
[03:12] <carl> i keep crashing out to the login screen
[03:12] <fragspaz> hey
[03:12] <Frogzoo> carl: which vid card?
[03:12] <suryam> hey hey
[03:12] <Greyscalefox> Back.
[03:12] <rukuartic> carl: Is there an error message reported?
[03:12] <carl> geforce 4 mx
[03:12] <Greyscalefox> I think it should wokrk now.
[03:12] <constantine-xvi> carl: right after logon?
[03:12] <fragspaz> i deleted my ubuntu partition and now grub gets an error17
[03:12] <fragspaz> stupid me
[03:12] <carl> at different times it's ver unpredictable
[03:12] <fragspaz> but i need to load into windows
[03:12] <neoginn_1> yo people i require assistance of the intelligent kind. i when to add application to install a game and some apps, and i cant find them now.
[03:13] <Fushi> fragspaz: boot disk, then fdisk /MBR
[03:13] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: windows disk, recovery consle, fixmbr
[03:13] <Fushi> Or that
[03:13] <fragspaz> thakns a bunch
[03:13] <joshhendo> I am looking for experienced Ubuntu users who would be interested in posting on my Ubuntu blog, www.ubuntuos.com . If any of you are interested, please contact me here or email me at josh@ubuntuos.com. Thanks.
[03:13] <fragspaz> now onto actually finding my windows disk
[03:13] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: How can I do the same thing for "mount vfat /dev/fd0 /media/Floppy"?
[03:13] !lilo:*! Hi all. There's a user with the nick 'timetolag' wandering about, supposedly selling laptops. Please IM him on AIM account ogd443 if you'd like let him know that his activities are off-topic and annoying. Thanks. :)
[03:14] <Frogzoo> carl: have you looked around for a more recent driver
[03:14] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: any win NT/2k/Xp/03s disk will do
[03:14] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: if you set it up right, you should just need 'fdmount' & 'fdumount'
[03:14] <carl> frogzoo:i went to the nvidia website to download but it crashed
[03:14] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: mabye not nt
[03:15] <carl> do you think my vid card is the prob cause i've had suspicions
[03:15] <fragspaz> constantine-xvi, not nt?
[03:15] <^Odd^> !codecs
[03:15] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:15] <^Odd^> !media
[03:15] <ubotu> ^Odd^: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:15] <Nirvana> Does anyone know the build dependancies of Fx 1.5.0.1? Mozilla build page isn't quite clear
[03:15] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: probably not NT4
[03:15] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: I typed "fdmount /dev/fd0"...
[03:15] <Munchkinguy> ... and got the message "fdmount (): invalid drive name: /dev/fd0"
[03:16] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: dont know if NT4 uses same NTLDR
[03:16] <fragspaz> i use XP... is that NT4?
[03:16] <heyjoe2> frogzoo: the thing is my usb device works sporadically
[03:16] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: no
[03:16] <firstent> madpilot i need help mounting can u help me
[03:16] <heyjoe2> frogzoo: liike just then it loaded, i safely unmounted it, and put it back in and now nothin
[03:16] <fragspaz> then i should be right?
[03:16] <nalioth> ^Odd^: are you lost?
[03:16] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: try /dev/fd/0
[03:16] <joshhendo> Is there any experienced Ubuntu user here that would be interested in posting on a Ubuntu blog?
[03:16] <firstent> madpilot i already tried by myself
[03:16] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: that falls under 2k/xp/03s, so you're fine
[03:17] <fragspaz> awsomeness.
[03:17] <nalioth> joshhendo: planet.ubuntu.com
[03:17] <rukuartic> joshhendo: Looks like a neat blog ;)
[03:17] <axisys> anyone know how to activate my infra red on my laptop compaq 6220?
[03:17] <jjs01h> my synaptics touchpad stops responding after i start firefox. anyone know anything about what is causing this?
[03:17] <carl> thanks for your help guys :) i'll try the driver and one last thing ubuntu is awesome keep up the good work
[03:17] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: I tried "/dev/fd/0" and got the same message
[03:18] <neoginn_1> i install stuff but i cant find its icon anywhere...someone help me.
[03:18] <constantine-xvi> neoginn_1: what did you install?
[03:18] <joshhendo> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 nice!
[03:18] <joshhendo> :)
[03:18] <neoginn_1> Constantine: i installed backgammon as an example.
[03:19] <constantine-xvi> neoginn_1: try typing the name in a console
[03:19] <fadedsun> neoginn_1, that happened with me as well when I installed gnucash
[03:19] <neoginn_1> ok
[03:19] <fragspaz> YES, it worked and it only took 10 minutes... tis a record to say the least!
[03:19] <fragspaz> thanks
[03:19] <fragspaz> bye
[03:19] <constantine-xvi> fragspaz: welcome
[03:19] <balu1> im installing supermario world :))
[03:19] <fadedsun> constantine-xvi, for me, the app (gnucash) is there, I can run it, but it is just odd that gnome didn't put an icon in the Applications menu.
[03:19] <balu1> :D
[03:20] <Shachaf> I just upgraded to the development branch of Dapper, and things seem to be working, mostly, except for ndiswrapper (I use a Broadcom wireless card). Why is my network device called eth1 instead of wlan0, and why isn't it working? Has anyone else had this problem?
[03:20] <constantine-xvi> fadedsun: not all packages put in an entry automagically
[03:20] <neoginn_1> Constantine: what is a console?
[03:20] <constantine-xvi> neoginn_1: command prompt
[03:20] <fadedsun> constantine-xvi, I see. I used Smeg and fixed it anyway. Just wondered.
[03:20] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: you might need to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure fdutils' & confirm suid
[03:20] <khanman02> what is a good (easy/simple) dvd-> divx/xvid ripping program for ubuntu?
[03:21] <constantine-xvi> neoginn_1:  accessories -> terminal
[03:21] <neoginn_1> Constantine: you mean the Terminal?
[03:21] <neoginn_1> ok
[03:21] <neoginn_1> BRB
[03:21] <constantine-xvi> khanman02: acidrip
[03:21] <fadedsun> neoginn_1, Try Alt-F2 for a "Run" box you can launch apps from
[03:21] <khanman02> constantine-xvi: thanks
[03:21] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: no, fdutilsconfig should do that already...
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: what happens for just 'fdmount'  - no drive specified?
[03:23] <neoginn_1> contantine or fadesun: do you guys know where a file would be installed to? and how do you guys send private messages in IRC?
[03:23] <constantine-xvi> fadedsun: i usually just drop a command line in the top panel
[03:23] <fadedsun> constantine-xvi, Cool.
[03:23] <balu1> my ubuntu says it comes with SDL, where is it installed anyoen know?
[03:24] <heyjoe2> Frogzoo: re my usb problem: i typed what u told me to and got http://pastebin.com/597325
[03:24] <constantine-xvi> neoginn_1: go to synaptic, right-click package, properties, installed files
[03:26] <Greyscalefox> you guys kick ass!
[03:26] <zouhair> slt
[03:26] <Greyscalefox> Seriously.
[03:26] <Greyscalefox> Its working now.
[03:27] <Greyscalefox> Thanks, guys!
[03:27] <Makura> I love you too Greyscalefox
[03:27] <Greyscalefox> Really, I appriciate it =D
[03:27] <constantine-xvi> anyone had trouble working a printer in dapper?
[03:27] <Greyscalefox> Meh. I think the whole printer set up system is a bit messy
[03:27] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with a usb problem ive been having since i loaded ubuntu last week: it is sometimes recognized, but usually not, when it didnt work i got this in terminal following a tail -f /var/log/messages
[03:27] <heyjoe2>  command- http://pastebin.com/597325
[03:27] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: I confirmed set user-id-root, and I still have the same problem
[03:27] <heyjoe2> http://pastebin.com/597325
[03:28] <Greyscalefox> try doing lsusb to see if its recognising the device
[03:28] <Hysty> linux+printer = lots of problems
[03:28] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: When I just type fdmount, I get "fdmount (/dev/fd0): Can't access /fd0: No such file or directory"
[03:28] <rukuartic> constantine-xvi: try #ubuntu+1?
[03:28] <Greyscalefox> I agree with hysty
[03:28] <Greyscalefox> It hard to get drivers.
[03:28] <constantine-xvi> my epson wont show in the config, and i just cant get a usb port like in breezy
[03:29] <Greyscalefox> 'specially if its a combi thing like mine
[03:29] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: 'sudo mkdir /fd0'  & try again
[03:29] <elkbuntu> constantine-xvi, epson what?
[03:30] <constantine-xvi> elkbuntu, stylus cx3200
[03:30] <Munchkinguy> Frogzoo: Works like a charm! Thank you, again.
[03:30] <elkbuntu> constantine-xvi, is this for breezy or dapper?
[03:30] <constantine-xvi> elkbuntu, scanner works fine
[03:30] <heyjoe2> can someone help me with a usb problem ive been having since i loaded ubuntu last week: it is sometimes recognized, but usually not, when it didnt work i got this in terminal following a tail -f /var/log/messages   - http://pastebin.com/597325
[03:30] <constantine-xvi> elkbuntu: dapper
[03:30] <elkbuntu> constantine-xvi, you have the opposite situation to i
[03:30] <elkbuntu> constantine-xvi, move to #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <Frogzoo> Munchkinguy: enjoy ;)
[03:31] <fuzzymonster> hello, I was wondering how to find if i'm using the optimum video driver, I have a radeon mobility 9000
[03:31] <Frogzoo> !tell fuzzymonster about ati
[03:31] <Frogzoo> !tell fuzzymonster about fglrx
[03:32] <Frogzoo> fuzzymonster: check the pms from ubotu
[03:32] <fuzzymonster> am i to use fglrx?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> fuzzymonster: yes, if fglrx supports your card - check the docs if noone else knows
[03:32] <A10n> how can i add 1600x1200 to my resolution list?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> !tell A10n about xorg
[03:33] <A10n> cool thanks Frogzoo
[03:33] <wastrel> ubotu's wep keyword returns a broken link
[03:33] <balu1> can someone tell me how to update SDL in ubuntu?
[03:33] <fuzzymonster> ty frogzoo
[03:33] <Frogzoo> yw
[03:34] <suture> How would I cd into a dir that has spaces in it?
[03:34] <Makura> Why does Azureus not even run anymore?  I used Automatix to install it, then I let it fully update, now it doesn't run.  I've completely removed it and reinstalled it, but it still doesn't run, not even to update
[03:34] <wastrel> suture:  cd foo\ bar
[03:35] <IdleOne> !tell Makura about automatix
[03:35] <ITSa341> Is there a way to easily convert RH drivers to work with Ubuntu?
[03:35] <suture> wastrel: ty
[03:35] <A10n> is nv or nvidia the correct driver to choose if i have an nvidia and the driver already installed?
[03:35] <IdleOne> !tell Makura about azureus
[03:35] <wastrel> what's the other encryption thing besides wep?
[03:35] <Makura> IdleOne: Someone here suggested Automatix.  Ack.
[03:36] <DarkMageZUbuntu> wastrel: wpa or wpa2
[03:36] <balu1> does ubuntu suport RPMs?
[03:36] <IdleOne> Makura>  I dont know who it was but they were wrong
[03:36] <Makura> IdleOne: I hope nothing too bad happened.
[03:36] <wastrel> thanks DarkMageZUbuntu
[03:36] <IdleOne> Makura>  hopefully not but not you have the correct way of installing azurues
[03:37] <IdleOne> balu1>  no ubuntu uses .deb
[03:37] <frank23> Makura: make sure you have sun's java,  java -version.  next install azureus as a user, from a downloaded tar   not with a package (this is because of the auto update feature) this is how I installed azureus
[03:37] <ITSa341> balu1  I have had pretty good luck installing rpm's with alien
[03:37] <mcmahon> Hello everyone. I have a questions I was hoping someone could help out with.
[03:37] <Makura> frank23: I have Sun's Java.
[03:37] <DarkMageZUbuntu> if i have an idea for ubuntu, is it appropriate to report it as a bug and tag it as wishlist?
[03:37] <balu1> itsa341 really? well im trying to instal hte latest SDL .. havnet the slightest clue how.. so  im trying to find a runtime files
[03:37] <IdleOne> mcmahon>  ask away
[03:37] <mcmahon> I am running ubuntu 5.10 and upgraded Firefox to version 1.5
[03:38] <mcmahon> After doing so and updating my symbolic links I can no longer connect to a samba share using Firefox
[03:38] <ITSa341> balu1  I am the wrong person to ask for advice on any advanced problems. I just wanted to give you a place to start and I know alien worked flawlessly for me so far
[03:39] <ITSa341> Is there a way to easily convert RH drivers to work with Ubuntu? The only linux drivers I can find for my GPS are for RH
[03:39] <mcmahon> No problem, I just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone had a suggestion.
[03:39] <balu1> itsa341: k ill use alien to do the conversions.  wher e can i dl it?
[03:39] <tristanmike> balay, sudo apt-get install alien
[03:39] <ITSa341> balu1  it is available with the ubuntu package manager
[03:39] <balu1> oh really? k
[03:39] <mcmahon> The message received says 'Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (smb) isn't associated with any program.
[03:39] <ITSa341> balu1  have fun
[03:40] <balu1> yep thanks
[03:40] <Muleario> hey how in the world do I get ubuntu to stop restarting X when I hit shift + backspace?
[03:40] <IdleOne> Muleario>  stop doing that
[03:40] <[TR0N] > lol
[03:41] <ITSa341> hehe
[03:41] <malv> why does everyone use firefox when nautilus feels smoother and more responsive?
[03:41] <Muleario> isn't there a way to bind that action to another key? or something like that?
[03:41] <malv> my mistake, I mean epiphany
[03:41] <mcmahon> well, I am trying to view pictures on a samba share
[03:41] <FlannelKing> malv: nautilus is a file browser
[03:41] <IdleOne> Muleario>  System > administration > keyboard shortcuts might have something in it you can disable
[03:42] <mcmahon> Nautilus will not display the picture.
[03:42] <malv> epiphany versus firefox
[03:42] <balu1> its: how do u use alien to install an RPM?
[03:42] <Hysty> has anyone had issues with ubuntu locking up the ide devices?
[03:42] <mcmahon> Actually I go to the share via Nautilus and then right click on the picture and open with Firefox
[03:42] <[TR0N] > Muleario: maybe this helps you http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q3/msg00559.html
[03:42] <mcmahon> epiphany works but the image is very large, will not scale down.
[03:42] <ITSa341> alien -install your.rpm   I think but look in the forums you'll find more info
[03:43] <balu1> k tnx
[03:43] <ITSa341> balu1  Like I said  I am a newbie
[03:43] <IdleOne> balu1>  what package you trying to install
[03:43] <IdleOne> ?
[03:44] <ITSa341> Does anyone know of a way to easily convert RH drivers to work with Ubuntu? The only linux drivers I can find for my GPS are for RH
[03:44] <balu1> idleone: im tyring to install SDL (using its rpm) , and attempting to use alien
[03:44] <balu1> idleone: img oing to try to convert it now
[03:44] <suture> How can I tell a script to open the file i right clicked on and replace spaces in the file name with "\ "
[03:44] <Makura> IdleOne: It still wont run at ALL.  I fear something is really damaged
[03:44] <IdleOne> balu1>  what is SDL?
[03:44] <balu1> simple media layer, it has to do with providing basic support for 2d audio/video/joysticks (used with super nintendo emulators such as ZNES)
[03:45] <balu1> www.libsdl.org for basic over view
[03:45] <Makura> IdleOne: Nevermind, I ran it through Terminal and it worked
[03:45] <IdleOne> Makura> I dont know how else to help you sorry
[03:45] <IdleOne> Makura>  ok cool then
[03:45] <randabis> ITSa341 if you can get the source for them, then you could probably compile a module that would work in ubuntu
[03:45] <ITSa341> balu1   You do realize snes and nes roms are better on a modded xbox
[03:45] <[TR0N] > Muleario: http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=38992
[03:46] <ITSa341> ranabis  they don't offer the source just RH drivers
[03:46] <balu1> itsa341 yes...but i dont have an xbox lol..
[03:46] <[TR0N] > Muleario: http://davesource.com/Solutions/20050105.Control_Alt_Delete_Disable.html
[03:46] <balu1> itsa341 if i had an xbox, id hack it to the max. ill buy one off ebay when its a little cheaper
[03:46] <ITSa341> balu1  I mod xboxes almost daily
[03:46] <randabis> ITSa341 are they rpm?
[03:46] <Muleario> Tron: wow thanks I'm gonna try that right now...
[03:46] <balu1> itsa341, i have a ps2, im thinking about getting a new nosolder modchip.. the DMSO one.. any adivce on that?
[03:46] <ITSa341> balu1  I have over 1700 roms on my xbox
[03:47] <balu1> itsa341 thats cool, theres jst one problem i DONT have an xbox lol. i know very well its capabilities.
[03:47] <randabis> roms are just fine on pc
[03:47] <ITSa341> balu1  just get a swap majic kit and burn your disks to cdr or dvdr
[03:47] <[TR0N] > Muleario: ;-)
[03:48] <Goldfisch> Alright. I just finished a test run of converting my system to ubuntu. I backed up key folders earlier from my prior distribution. Now I have ubuntu on a spare partition, and restored everything from backup.
[03:48] <balu1> itsa341: ok see! this is my dilemma.. mind if i PM u? so  we dont flood this..
[03:48] <wastrel> is it possible to view html source of messages in evo?
[03:48] <randabis> balu1, isn't SDL in the repos already?
[03:49] <randabis> i believe it is
[03:49] <ITSa341> randabis: all they give is a rar with a makefile, a pl2303.c and info about running "make inst"
[03:49] <balu1> randabis: i checked and it was.. but apparently i need a more uptodate version with ZNES.. have u any expiereince with ZNES?
[03:49] <randabis> balu1, ZNES? do you mean ZSNES?
[03:49] <balu1> itsa341:  HOW well does swapmagic wrok? i contemplated getting it, but i hear different things, some say alot of games need to patched, etc etc
[03:49] <randabis> never heard of ZNES
[03:49] <balu1> randabis: yes sorry ZSNES
[03:49] <wastrel> ah nvm, not in preview pane but in message window
[03:50] <randabis> balu1, I just use the zsnes package in the repos...never had a problem
[03:50] <flux___> what codec is used for encoding video into dvd format (playable in dvd players) ?
[03:50] <ITSa341> balu1   swapmagic is the best we have found at systembytes so far for the ps2's and it even works with the newer slimlines
[03:50] <balu1> randabis: really? can u guide me? i d/led a manual znes package, didt know it was in repos..mybe thats the issue
[03:50] <balu1> itsa341: are there ANY major drawbacks??
[03:50] <randabis> balu1, sudo aptitude install zsnes
[03:50] <randabis> done
[03:50] <randabis> as long as you have universe enabled
[03:51] <balu1> randabis: wow i sure love ubuntu..thanks rand, worked fine:)
[03:51] <ITSa341> not really, actually all I can say about it is take care of the swap magic disk as it is the only real important part
[03:51] <nush> someone helped me b4 with my resulution and told me to do a dpkg reconfigure, but I didn't go that way, and instead just edited /etc/x11/xorg.conf . My question is how do i check that linux/ubuntu has my correct video card's ram size?
[03:51] <LjL> multiverse actually
[03:51] <balu1> randabis: how do u run a game?? can i add znes to an applicatio menu or something
[03:51] <balu1> randabis: i used it in windows all the time. dno if it works same in linux
[03:51] <eletido> im looking to make a Symlink, whats the command for that?
[03:52] <LjL> eletido: ln -s
[03:52] <nush> ln -s
[03:52] <randabis> it works the same way as its windows counterpart balu1
[03:52] <ITSa341> randabis: no rpm's or I would just install with alien. All they give is a rar with a makefile, a pl2303.c and info about running "make inst"
[03:52] <balu1> itsa341:  really? well then the deal is sealed itsa.. im going to get it, ive been vacillating between swapmagic, DMSO non solder, or SOlder..
[03:52] <Goldfisch> eletido: ln  <--- ln -s /the/real/file /the/sym/link/file
[03:52] <randabis> ITSa341, that's source then...you'll have to compile the module
[03:52] <ITSa341> balu1  My son uses swapmagic all day every day
[03:52] <dabaR> ITSa341: did you find out what kernel version number that driver is for?
[03:52] <eletido> thanks guys.
[03:52] <balu1> itsa341: ok great. ill get it then.
[03:53] <ITSa341> randabis  when I try to run config or make it just says no rule to make target
[03:53] <Shachaf> Has anyone else had trouble with ndiswrapper under dapper (BCM4318 card)? It worked on Breezy, and Dapper says it has native support, but it doesn't work at all. Also, the network device's name was changed from wlan0 to eth1. Has anyone else had this problem?
[03:53] <balu1> itsa341: i was planning on it for a long time, and alot heresay has prevented me from it.
[03:53] <balu1> itsa341: do u sell it ?
[03:53] <ITSa341> dabaR  all they say is it's for RH9
[03:53] <randabis> Shachaf, I'm using ndiswrapper with bcm4318 with no troubles here in dapper (64-bit build)
[03:53] <dabaR> ITSa341: find out what kernel number they yse
[03:54] <balu1> is dapper sexy? :D
[03:54] <randabis> Shachaf, #ubuntu+1 is for dapper support
[03:54] <ITSa341> balu1   hang on a minute I'll see if we have any in stock right now
[03:54] <balu1> itsa341: thanks bud.
[03:54] <shiv> how do I get rid of this error
[03:54] <shiv> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file
[03:54] <shiv> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:54] <wickers> bachler, sexy like a well coded computer program, yes.
[03:54] <Goldfisch> balu1: I saw a demo of xgl (which requires dapper). That was neat with the guy spinning his desktop like a cube.
[03:54] <nush> someone helped me b4 with my resulution and told me to do a dpkg reconfigure, but I didn't go that way, and instead just edited /etc/x11/xorg.conf . My question is how do i check that linux/ubuntu has my correct video card's ram size?
[03:54] <randabis> ITSa341, if it is for RH9, it probably isn't going to work in ubuntu no matter how you try to work it
[03:54] <balu1> goldfisch: woo cant wait :)
[03:54] <randabis> RH9 uses the 2.4.x kernel
[03:54] <randabis> I think
[03:54] <randabis> maybe even 2.2.x
[03:54] <nush>  how do i check that linux/ubuntu has my correct video card's ram size for X?
[03:55] <balu1> randabis: this is a newb question.. but how come i dont see any shortcut for zsnes
[03:55] <Shachaf> randabis: OK, thanks.
[03:55] <randabis> balu1, it doesn't put one for it by default
[03:55] <ITSa341> randabis    figures, I need this GPS to work in linux so I can go completely Winblows free on this laptop
[03:55] <balu1> randabis: is.. so id hav eto go make one?
[03:55] <randabis> ITSa341, i'd check google...might be some way to get it working
[03:56] <randabis> balu1, yeah, otherwise just type zsnes in a console
[03:56] <Goldfisch> ITSa341: You have a GPS system tied in with your laptop? I missed the earlier part of your conversation.
[03:56] <balu1> randabis: hm id rather have a link..leme go figure out where it installed
[03:56] <ITSa341> randabis  I tried that and everything turned out to be unrelated or written for a software engineer
[03:56] <randabis> ITSa341, i'd bitch at the manufacturer then :/ sorry bud
[03:57] <ITSa341> Goldfish  Yup, a rikaline gps-6010  usb gps
[03:57] <ITSa341> works great in MS with streets and trips but can't get it to recognize in ubuntu or Xandros 4
[03:58] <DaLinuxCode> hi
[03:58] <dmakalsky> Hi All
[03:58] <dmakalsky> I am new to Ubuntu
[03:58] <dmakalsky> and I have a quick question for you all
[03:58] <ITSa341> I also can't get gps drive to go past the initial splash screen ( probably searching for the gps )
[03:58] <dmakalsky> what kernel version should I be if I install ubuntu from the cd?
[03:58] <ITSa341> balu1   PM me
[03:58] <Muleario> I have another question: is it possible to make xchat do a system beep when someone sends a message with your name in it? ;)
[03:59] <dmakalsky> uname -a says:
[03:59] <dmakalsky> Linux dementor2 2.6.12-10-386 #1
[03:59] <Protocol1> I wish there was an ebook on ubuntu 5.10
[03:59] <Goldfisch> ITSa341: Sounds like a kernel issue to me. When I initially got my Sony digital camera, system didn't recognize due to lack of a USB entry in the kernel map. I upgraded to a later 2.6 kernel, and it was recognized.
[03:59] <Edgan> Muleario: yes
[03:59] <Protocol1> or a good reference book for it
[03:59] <dmakalsky> I am afraid the auto updater updated my Kernel
[03:59] <dmakalsky> can someone confirm?
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> why would you be afraid.
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> you can always choose what kernel to use
[04:00] <carl> can someone help please , i'm not sure how to install drivers , sorry i'm a linux newb
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> carl, drivers for what
[04:00] <dmakalsky> I am trying to use vmplayer (vmware
[04:00] <dmakalsky> )
[04:00] <carl> nvidia graphics card
[04:00] <V4Vendetta> dmakalsky, just reconfigure it
[04:00] <dmakalsky> V4Vendetta, could you point me to the instructions
[04:01] <dmakalsky> on how to do that?
[04:01] <V4Vendetta> dmakalsky, sudo vmware-config.pl
[04:01] <Goldfisch> !tell dmakalsky about punctuation
[04:01] <Edgan> Muleario: I created the original patch to do it, and it was ignoring. A while later they author did added the feature. It is currently called Beep on hilighted messages.
[04:01] <V4Vendetta> i hate when people do that
[04:01] <Edgan> Muleario: I mean ignored
[04:02] <carl> how can i test if my graphics card is causing me probs in linux as it did cause probs when i used xp
[04:02] <dmakalsky> V4Vendetta, so it is asking me for the kernel source location.  Is that in a separate deb ?
[04:02] <scarpia> hi ppl, have a problem with dvd playback in totem (after automatix installation) - totem says it can't play a dvd, but if I drag & drop a VOB file from the dvd onto the totem window, it is played perfectly... have you any idea?
[04:02] <IdleOne> who has that rikaline gps driver issue?.... www.rikaline.com website not found :(
[04:02] <Muleario> Edgan: and I would just put Muleario in the "Extra words to highlight on" field?
[04:02] <Greyscalefox> Right. More problems. When I FTP locally to my server, I get the file list. Externally, it stops at this:
[04:03] <flux___> carl, the best way to test that would be to try the card in another windows box
[04:03] <Greyscalefox> 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,0,64,4,14).
[04:03] <Greyscalefox> LIST
[04:03] <ITSa341> IdleOne  it's me
[04:03] <Edgan> Muleario: No, it should just work. It auto highlights when someone says your nick
[04:03] <Greyscalefox> What am I doing wrong?
[04:03] <Muleario> Oh I see
[04:03] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  your manufacturer doesnt have a website
[04:04] <balu1> anyone use evolution mail???
[04:04] <Muleario> hmm it's not working...I wonder if perhaps I have system beeps disabled or something. Just upgraded to dapper two days ago
[04:04] <Shachaf> randabis: It works now.
[04:04] <flux___> !anyone
[04:04] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:04] <balu1> can i get the damn thing to autosend? instead of manuallying hitting send/closing
[04:04] <carl> ok thanks and also when ubuntu is booting up everything comes up ok (i.e starting raid etc) except starting hotplug system could this cause my system to crash
[04:04] <Goldfisch> balu1: All the time. Ever since kmail started seg faulting on me for over a month. :)
[04:04] <dabaR> Greyscalefox: you have a router, and a computer connected to it with an FTP server. When connecting to it from the general internet, you get an error, but when ftping to it locally it works. Is taht what you are saying?
[04:04] <Shachaf> randabis: I was looking through the lsmod list and didn't see bcm43xx.
[04:04] <Edgan> Muleario: does your pc speaker work? Not sure if Ubuntu enables it by default.
[04:04] <balu1> randabis:  where can i find zsnes on my HD? ;x i typed it in console and nothing hapend
[04:04] <Shachaf> randabis: But I guess it was there.
[04:04] <randabis> just a sec
[04:04] <Shachaf> randabis: Thanks.
[04:04] <Edgan> Muleario: you may need to modprobe pcspkr as root
[04:05] <Greyscalefox> Yes.
[04:05] <randabis> Shachaf, did what I suggest work?
[04:05] <balu1> goldfisch:  r there settings where after i finish writing a mail i hav eit send right away, as opposed to going to outbox first?
[04:05] <ITSa341> IdleOne  http://www.rikaline.com/download02.htm
[04:05] <Greyscalefox> Thats EXACTLY whats happening.
[04:05] <Greyscalefox> It stops specificly at the LIST command
[04:05] <Muleario> Edgan: I just did sudo modprobe pcspkr and there was no output
[04:05] <IdleOne> balu1>  did you install it sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:05] <Edgan> Muleario: that is normal for modprobe
[04:05] <Nabiki> Is there a command for dpkg or apt-get that will do a depenency check on all the packages installed to make sure that everything is where it needs to be?
[04:05] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, shouldn't use ftp anyway
[04:05] <Greyscalefox> ? Whats the alternative?
[04:05] <randabis> Nabiki, aptitude does
[04:06] <carl> can someone help please ? when ubuntu is booting up everything comes up ok (i.e starting raid etc) except starting hotplug system could this cause my system to crash
[04:06] <randabis> I always use aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:06] <Muleario> edgan: oh wow, it works now! Ha. is it on by default now or will I have to add this to sessions?
[04:06] <Goldfisch> balu1: Probably. I am ssh'd in through a termainal session right now, so I can't look it up. (P.S. Terminal mode, lying on the sofa quite comfortably, I might add).
[04:06] <Nabiki> aptitude.. I shall have to make sure it is installed.
[04:06] <Shachaf> randabis: Yes, it did.
[04:06] <Edgan> Muleario: I guess it isn't. You will need to make sure the module is loaded on each boot
[04:06] <Greyscalefox> V4vendetta - Whats the alternative?
[04:06] <dabaR> Greyscalefox: you should use at least as many words as I did when asking a question, so people can answer in one sentence instead of having to type 5. Just as an aside. Another one is prepend the message with the nick of the person you are speaking to. Did you forward the port on the router?
[04:06] <Shachaf> randabis: I was looking through the lsmod list before, and didn't find bcm43xx.
[04:06] <Nabiki> I can install things just fine, but whenever I do, it gets to the end of the list and tells me somethning didn't install right because of a dependancy error...
[04:06] <Nabiki> now
[04:06] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  well they have a linux.exe driver
[04:06] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, ssh
[04:06] <Nabiki> now I feel dumb.. I shoulda thought to check dselect. :P hehehehehe
[04:07] <starscalling> hey
[04:07] <phantasmoholic> what does this mean: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[04:07] <starscalling> if i wanna leave room for stupid shit like wine and games
[04:07] <starscalling> how big should i make root
[04:07] <Greyscalefox> dabaR - Sorry about that. None too coherant today.
[04:07] <randabis> Shachaf, good...:) weird about not finding it...also, you might wanna blacklist the module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:07] <phantasmoholic> ppl talking about bcm43xx.......??? i have some problems here also
[04:07] <Nabiki> phantasmoholic: Means that the network card is not responding.
[04:07] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, 3.0gb
[04:07] <Shachaf> randabis: I guess I just missed it.
[04:07] <Edgan> Muleario: Not sure if Ubuntu has it's own way, but you could create rc.modules as a shell script to call modprobe pcspkr. I know Debian used to do it that way. You could also add it to rc.local.
[04:07] <phantasmoholic> Shachaf: are you trying to use bcm43xx on dapper?
[04:08] <Edgan> Muleario: and that is /etc/rc.modules
[04:08] <Shachaf> randabis: Are you using ndiswrapper or the native driver?
[04:08] <randabis> i'd use bcm43xx but it freezes my system
[04:08] <Shachaf> phantasmoholic: Yes, and it works now.
[04:08] <starscalling> V4Vendetta, my typical install is only about 2.2gigs
[04:08] <carl> v4vendetta: when ubuntu is booting up everything comes up ok (i.e starting raid etc) except starting hotplug system could this cause my system to crash
[04:08] <starscalling> but not messed with wine and the like
[04:08] <Greyscalefox> V4vendetta - I use SSH to control it. But I need FTP for file transfers and stuff. I'd prefer to use FTP at the moment for this sort of thing.
[04:08] <Muleario> Edgan: I'm about to enter it as an entry in /etc/modules. should that work?
[04:08] <randabis> Shachaf, I'm using ndiswrapper because bcm43xx freezes my system if I try to use it
[04:08] <V4Vendetta> carl, yes
[04:08] <phantasmoholic> i'm having a difficult time
[04:08] <Edgan> Muleario: probably
[04:08] <starscalling> been thinking about trying some of the gaming stuffzorz
[04:08] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, ssh can transfer files
[04:08] <Goldfisch> Greyscalefox: Well, use sftp (ssh+ftp).
[04:08] <carl> v4vendetta: ok do you know how i fix this
[04:08] <Muleario> :D
[04:08] <V4Vendetta> carl, do you get any specific errors?
[04:08] <caglar> how do I make a window transparent with Xgl?
[04:08] <phantasmoholic> I will be glad to get ndiswrapper out of my system
[04:09] <Goldfisch> Greyscalefox: Also, read up on scp. That is my favorite way of moving stuff around the network.
[04:09] <Greyscalefox> Okeydoke.
[04:09] <carl> v4vendetta: no it just crashes back to login or hangs everytime
[04:09] <starscalling> V4Vendetta, does wine use /home space to do stuff?
[04:09] <randabis> phantasmoholic, as would I, but it's not an option at this point until bcm43xx improves
[04:09] <NickGarvey> encrypted file transfer :)
[04:09] <Nabiki> phantasmoholic: If you use ndiswrapper, check the wiki.  It tells which drivers to use and how to put the info into ubuntu.
[04:09] <Greyscalefox> But how would I fix the issue as it is?
[04:09] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, yea it will be .wine in your home folder
[04:09] <jean__> hi is there software that can see caller id etc?
[04:09] <phantasmoholic> i cant tell if its the driver causing my problems or some other configuration problem
[04:10] <phantasmoholic> i've done all the firmware cutting and installing
[04:10] <phantasmoholic> the driver will load with modprobe
[04:10] <phantasmoholic> but then, silence
[04:10] <phantasmoholic> scary silence, that leaves you confused
[04:10] <Nabiki> phantasmoholic: Did you put the info int he network configuration?
[04:10] <V4Vendetta> phantasmoholic, lol
[04:10] <NickGarvey> phantasmoholic: I spent 2 days working on wireless and linux and it didn't work, I was using a broadcom card also
[04:10] <Goldfisch> !tell phantasmoholic about punctuation
[04:10] <phantasmoholic> Which info?
[04:10] <V4Vendetta> Goldfisch, why bother
[04:10] <Edgan> Goldfisch: rsync+ssh works better and more efficently in most cases, rsync -e ssh -P -v   and it uses scp like syntax.
[04:11] <phantasmoholic> I have my /network/interfaces set up
[04:11] <phantasmoholic> but it may be wrong
[04:11] <phantasmoholic> just sets id and wep key
[04:11] <Greyscalefox> *sigh* but I _need_ FTP!
[04:11] <phantasmoholic> and then auto eth1
[04:11] <IdleOne> !enter
[04:11] <Makura> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10032  I get this when trying to run Azureus.  Anyone have any idea what it means?
[04:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:11] <Greyscalefox> Security and efficency isn't too important.
[04:11] <Goldfisch> Edgan: Yeah, I know about that too. I use to backup my systems. That is also what I used to restore my home partitions etc. to an ubuntu installation. Cart before the horse, I say.
[04:11] <cyphase> does anyone know of any way that my X server would invert colors?
[04:11] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, bad driver
[04:12] <Muleario> If I install a new icon set, where are the icon files stored? I want to add a custom icon to a shortcut I'm making...
[04:12] <Goldfisch> Edgan: I am working on setting up a wiki server at work. I am telling them I can keep our backup site synced up with the primary at little cost. I plan to use rsync for that. :)
[04:12] <Nabiki> phantasmoholic:  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu   It tells you where the file is and everything.
[04:12] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, it was working fine before
[04:12] <Edgan> Goldfisch: Though I learned http is the only thing that scales to gigabit speeds.
[04:12] <dabaR> Greyscalefox: DId you answer whether you forwarded ports? (no worries, I was just giving you advice).
[04:12] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, ?
[04:12] <Muleario> launcher, I mean
[04:12] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, then i was away from the computer for a 1 1/2 hours
[04:12] <phantasmoholic> Nabiki, I'm trying to use the new bcm43xx driver
[04:12] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, http loses alot of speed actually ..
[04:12] <Nabiki> phantasmoholic: Once the module is willing to load, you still have to tell the system that you want to set a network.
[04:12] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, you tried restarting X ?
[04:12] <Edgan> V4Vendetta: not when compared to rsync and scp
[04:12] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, now it's inverted
[04:12] <Greyscalefox> dabaR :yeah I did. I can get a connection to it and it authenticates
[04:12] <maximaus> heya, what's the ubuntu chat or off topic channel called again? (brain fart)
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu, Hi, how are you doing?
[04:13] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[04:13] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:13] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, ftp is the best for constancy i think
[04:13] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, not yet, i was wondering if there was a away to invert colors
[04:13] <cyphase> maybe a key combo..
[04:13] <cyphase> hoping :P
[04:13] <Edgan> V4Vendetta: but ftp requires logging in, unnecessary steps
[04:13] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, i doubt it
[04:13] <Greyscalefox> I know, but I want my ftp!
[04:13] <cyphase> yea..
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu, I have some news about my Synaptic
[04:13] <cyphase> oh well
[04:13] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, yea, so does ssh related things..
[04:14] <Makura> IdleOne: Do you know what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10032
[04:14] <Greyscalefox> *has a death-grip on ftp*
[04:14] <Edgan> V4Vendetta: and the ftp protocol is messy
[04:14] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, it's insecury. but the speed is fine
[04:14] <V4Vendetta> insecure*
[04:14] <Goldfisch> If you setup the trusted ssh keys, sftp/scp/rsync-over-ssh all begin to work effortlessly and securely. You can focus on the real problem, and not worry about securing the transport layer.
[04:14] <Edgan> V4Vendetta: if you can't afford the encryption, then it is best to no use auth
[04:14] <starscalling> ah thanx V4Vendetta
[04:14] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, ?
[04:15] <IdleOne> Makura>  gimme a sec
 starscalling, yea it will be .wine in your home folder
[04:15] <whiter> anyone know how to make the panel font larger in size?
[04:15] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, oh okay, no problem.
[04:15] <Makura> IdleOne: Thank you. =] 
[04:15] <starscalling> phantasmoholic, dont pm without asking >.<
[04:15] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, you can also type ~/.wine no matter where you are
[04:15] <starscalling> what cha need?
[04:15] <cedriczg> Managu, Are you there?
[04:15] <starscalling> yeah not new to linux
[04:15] <Edgan> V4Vendetta: rsync+ssh maxed out at like 18mb/s, scp at like 20mb/s, rsync at like 60mb/s and http could do full speed if the disks could keep up
[04:15] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, okay sorry.
[04:15] <starscalling> just the messing around with wine thing :P
[04:15] <starscalling> no no no sorry needed ^^
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> Edgan, but when do you transfer tat those speds
[04:16] <cyphase> ok, i just took a screenshot and out it on another computer
[04:16] <cyphase> it looks normal there
[04:16] <Greyscalefox> Sooo.. Can anyone actually help me, or are you going to just discuss the nuances of ftp and other methods I've never heard of?
[04:16] <jean__> what is PBX
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, just reboot lazy guy
[04:16] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, whats the problem
[04:16] <Greyscalefox> ...
[04:16] <Goldfisch> Edgan: Next time I have a 60Mb network pipe, I will consider that. :)
[04:16] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i would think rebooting would be lazy :P
[04:16] <dopry> PBX = public branch exchange...
[04:16] <ut-> i'm having a graphics card problem i think.... i can install ubuntu with no problem but when it goes to boot into ubuntu the first time the screen hangs when loading the gnome display manager
[04:16] <IdleOne> Makura>  none whats so ever
[04:16] <ut-> any ideas?
[04:16] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i was just wondering if it was hardware or software
[04:16] <Greyscalefox> I can access FTP from both local and internet connections. BUT I can't get the file list from the 'net
[04:16] <cyphase> anyway..
[04:17] <danl> how would one go about upgrading their existing install to dapper flight 5?
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, did you have a screen saver on?
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> danl, i don't recommend it
[04:17] <cyphase> yes
[04:17] <starscalling> !ops phantasmoholic is being abusive :/.
[04:17] <ubotu> okay, starscalling
[04:17] <Managu> cedriczg: what's up?
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> danl, dapper is a terrible mess
[04:17] <cyphase> and the screensaver was inverted too
[04:17] <Makura> IdleOne: Bummer...  Do you have any suggestions for bittorrent clients where I can control the UDP port it uses?  (I'm behind a router)
[04:17] <jean__> anyone know how i make my modem pick up caller id?
[04:17] <danl> V4vendetta, really?
[04:17] <starscalling> !op phantasmoholic is being abusive :/.
[04:17] <ubotu> okay, starscalling
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> Makura, azureus
[04:17] <Goldfisch> Greyscalefox: Is it some sort of shadow ftp site? I have seen those, where you have to know the file you are getting.
[04:17] <V4Vendetta> danl, yes
[04:17] <starscalling> !_!
[04:17] <ubotu> starscalling: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:17] <cyphase> V$Vendetta, yes, and the screensaver was inverted too
[04:17] <ut-> i have a onboard agp card and a pci card, i use the pci card...when i plug my monitor into the onboard card everything works, but how to i setup my pci card?
[04:17] <cedriczg> Managu, well this boot was not succesful for the synaptic
[04:17] <starscalling> fucking pos
[04:18] <Greyscalefox> Goldfisch - No. It just stops when it sends the LIST command
[04:18] <Makura> V4Vendetta: That's exactly what's not working ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10032 )
[04:18] <Managu> cedriczg: doh.  Not a clue what your problem is =(
[04:18] <danl> serious stability issues?
[04:18] <ut-> i can't disable the onboard card via the bios..
[04:18] <cedriczg> Managu, all the needed files in /var/lib/apt disapeared
[04:18] <IdleOne> Makura>  i dont torrent but maybe someone else knows of a client besides azurues
[04:18] <cedriczg> Managu, And the empty "lock" file I told you appeared!!!
[04:18] <Edgan> rtorrent, bittornado, bittorrent-curses are good and work under Linux.
[04:19] <IdleOne> starscalling>  watch the language please
[04:19] <cedriczg> Managu, Then I copied the files I buchuped
[04:19] <Makura> IdleOne: I'm completely lost for clients for linux.
[04:19] <V4Vendetta> Makura, sudo apt-get install libswt3.1-gtk-java
[04:19] <cyphase> it looks awesome
[04:19] <Makura> V4Vendetta: Thanks. =] [
[04:19] <ut-> anyone have a idea how i can fix this problem?
[04:19] <cedriczg> Managu, And voila, the Synaptic worked
[04:19] <starscalling> IdleOne, tell em to fix the triggers then
[04:19] <Edgan> I personally use Azureus for all the features though.
[04:19] <Managu> cedriczg: well, that's good at least
[04:19] <cedriczg> Managu, This way at least I don't have to download all
[04:19] <cedriczg> Managu, One more thing
[04:19] <Greyscalefox> Somebody help me and my despirate ftp situation. I'm begining to loose hope.
[04:19] <danl> V4Vendetta, Does it have stability issues, or something worse?
[04:20] <IdleOne> starscalling>  nothing wrong with the triggers you just need to trigger for something it knows or try /msg ubotu  searchterm
[04:20] <cedriczg> Managu, When executin the synaptic before in the command line
[04:20] <V4Vendetta> danl, well i tried to update yesterday and it killed one of my ubuntu installs, so i'd wait till after it comes out... till AFTER
[04:20] <danl> lol, ok thanks
[04:20] <starscalling> iirc it used to have an !op or !ops or something trigger
[04:20] <V4Vendetta> danl, beta anything always blows
[04:20] <starscalling> ~_~
[04:20] <Greyscalefox> I'd give it 2 weeks before upgrade for the gremlins to surface
[04:20] <ut-> anyone know how to switch gfx cards during the install???
[04:20] <ut-> or afterwards?
[04:20] <dabaR> Greyscalefox: you get logged in? Stops at listing the directory?
[04:20] <IdleOne> starscalling>  why do you need the ops?
[04:20] <Greyscalefox> Yes
[04:20] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, i'm giving it a month after it comes out
[04:20] <balu1> randabis: hey randa.. any idea where i look for ZSNES after i installed it form my repo? ..using "znes" in console dosnt do anything
[04:21] <cedriczg> Managu, I had this output : (synaptic:7908): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[04:21] <cedriczg> (synaptic:7908): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[04:21] <Greyscalefox> V4vendeta - I don't blame you.
[04:21] <jean__> is 256mbram not enough?
[04:21] <dabaR> Greyscalefox: how many different ftp clients have you tried? Have you tried a simple command line?
[04:21] <randabis> balu1, type zsnes not znes
[04:21] <Managu> cedriczg: I wouldn't worry about it.  It doesn't look relivant
[04:21] <dabaR> jean__: for an ubuntu install iot is.
[04:21] <cedriczg> Managu, It seems that I have this output also now... But now it works as I tod you
[04:21] <balu1> randabis: thats hwat i am typing
[04:21] <Edgan> Greyscalefox: I like lftp when it comes to command line ftp
[04:21] <Greyscalefox> Dabar - will try more clients
[04:21] <balu1> randabis: no nm thats what im not typing -_-
[04:21] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, tried gftp ?
[04:21] <jean__> dabaR: lots of things are crashing
[04:21] <starscalling> IdleOne,
[04:21] <cedriczg> Managu, So none of us have a clue what may be happening
[04:21] <randabis> balu1 heh
[04:21] <starscalling> this is a text based game irc is
[04:21] <phantasmoholic> where do you alias network interfaces
[04:22] <starscalling> either start reading or quit playing tyvm
[04:22] <balu1> randabis: yep thnx lol..any idea how i turn this into a shortcut?
[04:22] <Greyscalefox> V4vendeta - The server is the only linbox at the moment.
[04:22] <jean__> how come lots of things are crashing the system
[04:22] <Managu> cedriczg: you could try digging through your startup files (in /etc/init.d) to see if any of them are doing something fishy.  That's the only thing I can think of
[04:22] <jean__> is it cause 256mb is not enough?
[04:22] <IdleOne> starscalling>  thanks for the info ..watch the language please
[04:22] <Greyscalefox> Its running ubuntu server, and I'm quite proud of that.
[04:22] <balu1> omg super mario, and its awesome
[04:22] <balu1> <3
[04:22] <starscalling> IdleOne, deal with it.
[04:23] <cedriczg> Managu, Thnaxs, I'll try to look that
[04:23] <starscalling> i dunno who you are nor do i care that much
[04:23] <greenguy> Hi, does anyone know where I need to place a *.el file for emacs to use it?
[04:23] <starscalling> but i certainly dont appreciate your attitude
[04:23] <starscalling> so please go check it at the door and reenter
[04:23] <randabis> balu1, make the shortcut to /usr/bin/zsnes
[04:23] <IdleOne> starscalling>  I asked you politely to watch your language I dont recall giving any attitude
[04:23] <balu1> randabis: well my prob is making the actual short cut.. i im not sure how
[04:23] <Greyscalefox> *Geeky showdown*
[04:23] <kill-bill> i tryed to instal some debian packages on my ubuntu.. but now some packages r broken and i just can't install any packages... what can i do to solve this
[04:23] <ut-> has anyone had any problems with a pci nvidia card? yes i've tried reading the manual and I cannot find out where to switch the gfx card
[04:24] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, lol
[04:24] <Madpilot> starscalling, cool it - and what do you need an op for?
[04:24] <jean__> when they say fight or flight they dont mean to choose either or
[04:24] <Muleario> When you install a theme, where does it install to?
[04:24] <IdleOne> kill-bill>  sudo apt-get -f install
[04:24] <starscalling> then you should also check your personal monitor dial or something.... b/c thats pretty much what im getting from you.
[04:24] <Managu> ut-: it's entirely possible that your motherboard doesn't support another graphics card
[04:24] <V4Vendetta> Greyscalefox, i'm the swamp fox
[04:24] <starscalling> meh
[04:24] <starscalling> one sec
[04:24] <Greyscalefox> Heh.
[04:24] <ut-> but in other linux distros i don't have this problem
[04:24] <Greyscalefox> Anyway, SmartFTP does similar.
[04:25] <ut-> i've used linux before with this setup
[04:25] <ut-> i can't figure out how to get it to work with ubuntu
[04:25] <starscalling> should have enabled timestamps
[04:25] <kill-bill> i'll try that
 !op phantasmoholic is being abusive :/.
[04:25] <starscalling> i dont really appreciate abuse from anyone
[04:25] <randabis> balu1, if you want it on the desktop, just right-click and choose create launcher
[04:25] <jean__> can i install fluxbox off the install cd?
[04:25] <starscalling> especially when im trying to get away from some
[04:25] <phantasmoholic> what is LPF/eth1
[04:25] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, clam down
[04:25] <starscalling> this is the reason i left friggan ubuntu last time
[04:25] <MrRio> why doesnt ubuntu come with sun's java 1.5 in the universe repo?
[04:25] <cedriczg> Managu, I have only a file called /etc/initab, you mean that one?
[04:25] <V4Vendetta> starscalling, calm*
[04:25] <randabis> jean__, doubtful...fluxbox is in universe
[04:25] <starscalling> *am fairly calm
[04:25] <Greyscalefox> Why doesn't ubuntu come with AOL. XD
[04:25] <cedriczg> Managu, I mean inittab
[04:25] <V4Vendetta> MrRio, copyright issues
[04:26] <Madpilot> starscalling, I've just had a look thru the backscroll, and can't see any "abuse"
[04:26] <starscalling> just getting more and more annoyed.
[04:26] <Greyscalefox> Its slowwww and shitty 90% of the time.
[04:26] <Managu> cedriczg: no.  There should be a number of files in the /etc/init.d directory
[04:26] <Nabiki> ut-:  It is an nvidia thing.  There is some info on the Wiki.  You may need to get the driver fromt he nvidia web site possibly. I fiddled arrounda bit with mine, and it suddenly decided to work. ^^;;
[04:26] <starscalling> thats the whole thing
[04:26] <Greyscalefox> (in my experiance anyway)
[04:26] <IdleOne> starscalling>  I didnt notice any abuse but I wasnt looking at irc at the momment all I saw was you cursing so I asked for you to please watch your language...you could of just told me that before instead of " giving me attitude " :)
[04:26] <cedriczg> Managu, oh the directory
[04:26] <starscalling> scroll up further past that
[04:26] <phantasmoholic> someone please ban starscalling
[04:26] <starscalling> and perhaps it will be clear
[04:26] <balu1> randabis: k tnx.. got it
[04:26] <starscalling> IdleOne, really stfu
[04:26] <randabis> no prob
[04:26] <V4Vendetta> lol
[04:26] <phantasmoholic> he making alot of trouble
[04:26] <starscalling> phantasmoholic, just b/c i tell you not to pm me
[04:26] <balu1> is there a way to alt+tab between apps?
[04:27] <IdleOne> starscalling>  fine I will ..you have a good night
[04:27] <starscalling> does not mean you need to bring all kinds of sexual innuendo's into it
[04:27] <Greyscalefox> idleone didn't say anything for ages...
[04:27] <balu1> hey gusy calm down...this isa help channel.
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> balu1, yea, you hit alt+tab
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> balu1, LOL
[04:27] <MrRio> V4Vendetta: what about a package who's install script fetches the sun package, makes u agree to their terms, etc..
[04:27] <phantasmoholic> Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
[04:27] <starscalling> frankly i dont appreciate the harrassment ive gotten today
[04:27] <balu1> v4vendetta funny it doesnt work with zsnes as full screen
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> MrRio, yea, i used one earlier today
[04:27] <Madpilot> phantasmoholic & starscalling - I can't see anything to ban either of you about. Just calm down and move on, OK?
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> phantasmoholic, FUCK
[04:27] <starscalling> and im starting to think it really is typical of this distro
[04:27] <ut-> how do you configure X in ubuntu? there is no x11config or any program like that, that i can find anyway
[04:27] <starscalling> Madpilot its in pm
[04:27] <V4Vendetta> ut-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <phantasmoholic> Ok
[04:28] <starscalling> crap about cocks
[04:28] <starscalling> and muching
[04:28] <ut-> that doesn't do shit
[04:28] <starscalling> and stuff like that
[04:28] <ut-> i've tried that
[04:28] <Greyscalefox> ...
[04:28] <ut-> excuse my language
[04:28] <V4Vendetta> ut-, yes it does ..
[04:28] <starscalling> and frankly im tired of it
[04:28] <phantasmoholic> im trying to work here and this guy is trying to fight
[04:28] <phantasmoholic> i'll just put him on ignore
[04:28] <ut-> all it does is setup my onboard gfx card
[04:28] <Greyscalefox> Both of you shut the fuck up and get along, mmm'kay?
[04:28] <starscalling> and frankly i dont think i should have to deal with this fucking bullshit
[04:28] <starscalling> ok now im done,.
[04:28] <MrRio> Hey, can everyone stop swearing
[04:28] <Madpilot> phantasmoholic & starscalling - frankly, I'm tempted to boot you both. Drop it.
[04:28] <Greyscalefox> people have problems. Help them deal with them.
[04:28] <V4Vendetta> listen up kids
[04:28] <V4Vendetta> take your riddalin
[04:28] <V4Vendetta> and stfu
[04:28] <elkbuntu> V4Vendetta, you're not helping the situation
[04:28] <starscalling> Madpilot, is that a typical reaction these days?
[04:28] <Nabiki> ut-:  Are you trying to use both cards at once, or JUST the nvidia?
[04:29] <V4Vendetta> elkbuntu, no you are not helping it
[04:29] <ut-> just the nvidia
[04:29] <V4Vendetta> ignore
[04:29] <elkbuntu> V4Vendetta, im not the one swearing
[04:29] <ut-> i had to plug my monitor into my intel 810 just to get here
[04:29] <phantasmoholic> we take Aderal now days Vendetta
[04:29] <Nabiki> Then go into the bios, and disable the onboard video.
[04:29] <jean__> hey oh eh what happened to "HUMANITY TO OTHERS"
[04:29] <Greyscalefox> Oh I give up. my FTP situation will probably never be repaired. Thanks for the port forwarding though.
[04:29] <starscalling> ~_~
[04:29] <ut-> i can't all i can select in the bios is pci or agp
[04:29] <ut-> either options doesn't affect ubuntu though
[04:29] <ut-> it still selects my onboard card
[04:29] <Makura> V4Vendetta: I did what you told me to do, but I try to install Azureus (it uninstalled it for some reason..?) and I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10034
[04:30] <elkbuntu> jean__, it helps for people to act human for that
[04:30] <jean__> dont the evil people goto #debian
[04:30] <Nabiki> Is the Nvidia card PCI or AGP?  And does it have an option to set how much ram you give to the onboard video? If it does, then setting it to 0 will disable it.
[04:30] <jean__> :>
[04:30] <jean__> ?
[04:30] <Madpilot> elkbuntu, jean__, starscalling phantasmoholic: Drop it. Right now.
[04:30] <ut-> it is pci
[04:30] <ut-> the onboard is agp i think
[04:31] <jean__> or i thought evil people were to hang out on efnet
[04:31] <kill-bill> what's the meaning of this
[04:31] <kill-bill> Error: the current /etc/modules.conf is not automatically generated.
[04:31] <V4Vendetta> Makura, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:31] <Nabiki> You may need to uninstall and reinstall X11, or at least reconfigure it.  If it installed the onboard as the video.
[04:31] <Nabiki> ack.. bad punctuation.
[04:31] <phantasmoholic> Why would my eth1 be using an inet6 addr
[04:31] <ut-> i've done the dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg think many times
[04:32] <ut-> it doesn't do nothing but the set the config file to what it is originally set too
[04:32] <Makura> V4Vendetta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10035 =\
[04:32] <ut-> during the boot i do see something about apci ignoring display on 0:01e:00 or something like that, so i know it reconizes the card
[04:32] <V4Vendetta> makura
[04:32] <V4Vendetta> do you have aim or msn
[04:32] <Makura> V4Vendetta: Both.
[04:32] <V4Vendetta> well add me on aim'
[04:32] <V4Vendetta> FearTheTrain
[04:32] <Makura> V4Vendetta: Will do
[04:33] <NickGarvey> when trains attack
[04:33] <NickGarvey> dum dum dum
[04:33] <V4Vendetta> lol
[04:33] <V4Vendetta> :-D
[04:33] <V4Vendetta> i made the name because
[04:33] <dabaR> Please do not use enter too much if the channel is busy.
[04:33] <V4Vendetta> i saw a news episode where 10 people got hit by a train
[04:33] <V4Vendetta> :
[04:33] <mlalkaka> how do i open the gnome cd creator? i forgot lol
[04:33] <elkbuntu> !enter
[04:33] <Unity> thank you for that colon on the previous line
[04:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:34] <IdleOne> Unity>  lmao :)
[04:34] <dabaR> mlalkaka: maybe it is in the applications menu on the top of your screen under music./
[04:35] <di> how do i find the 10 largest directories in my system?
[04:35] <mlalkaka> dabaR, i dont see it. i only see gnomebaker
[04:35] <Managu> ut-, as I recall, the NVidia-glx driver documentation touches on a spot where you can specify the PCI id numbers (or some such) for a particular card.  Have you read that documentation?
[04:35] <kill-bill> i tryed using sudo apt-get -f install but this error shows up Error: the current /etc/modules.conf is not automatically generated. script post-removal returned error code 1
[04:35] <V4Vendetta> Unity, you are welcome
[04:36] <kill-bill> the same eerror every time i gotta use apt-get n stuff
[04:36] <mlalkaka> dabaR, nevermind. once i put in the blank cd, it popped up
[04:36] <dabaR> mlalkaka: maybe that is it.
[04:36] <Unity> di: konqueror has a file view that shows folders in different sizes proportional to how much space they take up
[04:36] <dabaR> mlalkaka: sweetness
[04:37] <Unity> di: i don't know there is a simpler way though
[04:37] <markk> What can I get for burning ISO's?
[04:37] <di> Unity: i use gnome
[04:37] <dabaR> markk: just right click on them,
[04:37] <Unity> markk: cdrecord maybe
[04:37] <Managu> kill-bill: it's just a random thought, but you might try this: make a backup of your /etc/modules.conf; then delete it.  Then try the apt-get command again
[04:37] <IdleOne> markk>  gnomebaker , k3b , serpantine
[04:37] <Unity> di: you can install konqueror without installing all of kde if you think it's worth the trouble
[04:37] <f00f_bug> how do i keep xscreensaver from locking my screen everytime i shut my laptop?
[04:37] <Unity> di: using gnome doesn't stop you from using konqueror
[04:38] <wastrel> hi
[04:38] <dabaR> f00f_bug: it is an option of the screensaver. Probably alterable in System>Prefs>Screensaver.
[04:38] <Unity> there is no gnome thing that says thou shalt not use kde apps in gnome
[04:38] <tyler_> How can I play a streaming .pls file (ie, from di.fm) from the command line?
[04:38] <f00f_bug> dabaR: ok thanks
[04:38] <dabaR> tyler_: how do you play it otherwise? in xmms/bmp?
[04:39] <rdw200169> i can never get beep media player to start
[04:39] <Madpilot> markk, just right-click on them, select Burn To Disc, and let it run
[04:39] <dabaR> rdw200169: how did you install it?
[04:39] <markk> ok
[04:39] <rdw200169> repository
[04:39] <markk> thanks all
[04:39] <rdw200169> it's in the Applications menu
[04:39] <rdw200169> but when i click it nothing happens
[04:40] <dabaR> rdw200169: run "strace bmp" in a terminal, and paste output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please.
[04:40] <rdw200169> ok
[04:40] <dabaR> one sec
[04:40] <kill-bill> Managu: it seems working till now... thx
[04:40] <tyler_> dabaR, I don't really... but I've been using mpg123 to play all my mp3's on my media server, so I can control what plays on my home system remotely, but I'd really like to stream fresh content from the shell
[04:41] <balu1> what was that sweet mario rpg game for gameboy color
[04:41] <V4Vendetta> balu1, lol ..
[04:41] <Managu> kill-bill: glad if my suggestion helped.  Be sure to restore the modules.conf file -- it's important
[04:41] <dabaR> rdw200169: "strace beep-media-player"
[04:41] <tyler_> dabaR,  normally I boot to windows to listen to di.fm streams, cuz I can't figure it out
[04:41] <rdw200169> i was about to say that ;)
[04:41] <rdw200169> thanks
[04:41] <Nabiki> :P So, what would I need to install to get DVD's running? :P  I saw a notice ont he wiki that Ubuntu doesn't do DVD's directly.. ^^  I have VLC media player, but I haven't given it a try yet. hehehe
[04:41] <V4Vendetta> tyler_, xmms can stream radio
[04:41] <dabaR> tyler_: what do you have installed codecs-wise?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell Nabiki about dvd
[04:42] <Dingbat> Question: Got ubuntu running -- I've been running it for the past 3 weeks replacing windoze.  My only problem is that I can't get it to go higher than 1024x768 resolution-wise (ATI Radeon 9600)
[04:42] <Nabiki> Thank you ubotu! :)
[04:42] <balu1> paper mario
[04:42] <balu1> that was it
[04:42] <rdw200169> how do i get it to dump that to a text file?
[04:42] <ITSa341> IdleOne   sorry, got the boot from my ISP
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell Dingbat about resolution
[04:42] <kill-bill> is there a safe way to install debian packages on ubuntu questio mark
[04:42] <rob__> would there be a reason why my sisters window's laptop picks up wireless and it works perfecty and my ubuntu laptop picks it up somehwat and it is really patchy and disconnects a lot (most of the time)
[04:43] <dabaR> rdw200169: "strace bmp>file" output redirection.
[04:43] <nerv> i'm trying to make ubuntu available for multiple users. however, when i lock my screen, log in to another username, lock it, and come back to mine, ubuntu crashes. ideas?
[04:43] <rdw200169> OHH, that's right, thanks
[04:43] <nerv> the screen becomes weird, i can't make out what it is. everything is garbled, then i have to restart.
[04:43] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  rikaline has a linux driver for your gps only thing is that its a .exe
[04:43] <Managu> rob__: linux and ubuntu wireless support still isn't all that great.  Things might get better for you on ubuntu if you're willing to fight the ndiswrapper game
[04:43] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  not certain how you would go about installing it
[04:43] <rob__> (she's on windows)
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> kill-bill: It sometimes works.  Ideally, look for a native Ubuntu build.  If that doesn't exist for sure (you've checked with all sources enabled), you could either learn to build your own from source, or just try one from Debian.  Basically, it might work, but no guarantees whatsoever, so try at your own risk.
[04:44] <rob__> gettin help about wireless is tough when your on the wireless that is not working
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> nerv: I had that issue with fglrx if you're using that, otherwise don't know.
[04:44] <tyler_> V4Vendetta, thanks, but how can I get xmms to play when I am logged in from another machine through the shell?  I run:   'xmms playlist.pls &'   remotely, but nothing shows up on the local machine and no sound output.  Also the process dies shortly afterward
[04:45] <slew> hi, has anyone ever seen this: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found ?
[04:45] <nerv> tonyyarusso, yes i am using fglrx
[04:45] <balu1> anyoen use any N64 emulators
[04:45] <V4Vendetta> tyler_, dunno sorry
[04:45] <Managu> rob__: classic network installation fun
[04:45] <tyler_> V4Vendetta, basically I want to be able to control my sound system from my other computer, anywhere in the house
[04:45] <nerv> tonyyarusso: i couldn't find a better way to get hardware accel w/ati radeon x600xt.
[04:45] <n8> has anyone heard of the display on boot-up in breezy kinda garbled (verticle lines) but once you get to gnome it's fine?  I have a Dell Latitude C840....
[04:45] <V4Vendetta> !gdm
[04:45] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, V4Vendetta
[04:45] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i logged off, then restarted the X server, then restarted the whole computer, and it was inverted the whole time, including the BIOS
[04:45] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, wow your card fried
[04:45] <f00f_bug> tyler_: have you tried xmms?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> nerv: Try switching the driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to radeon instead if you can part with the accel for now; the switching problem is a known bug with fglrx.
[04:46] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, no
[04:46] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i've fixed it
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, ... i'd say so
[04:46] <f00f_bug> tyler_: ummmm i mean mplayer
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, what was wrong
[04:46] <slew> balu1, did you check synaptic?
[04:46] <kill-bill> any drivers 4 genious webcams ... easycam doesn't work
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> cyphase, loose connection ?
[04:46] <wastrel> n8 your vga settings need tweaked, but once you're in X it works.
[04:46] <nerv> tonyyarusso, i can't =P...i have to develop stuff for school and need it
[04:46] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i had to unplug the monitor from power
[04:46] <balu1> slew: what do u mean?
[04:46] <wastrel> n8 i have no idea how to fix tho :] 
[04:46] <nerv> tonyyarusso, i guess im SOL, but thanks =P
[04:46] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, i probably could have done it without restarting
[04:46] <slew> balu1, i mean load synaptic and do a search for n64 emulator
[04:46] <cyphase> V4Vendetta, but oh well
[04:46] <Nabiki> Inverted? BIOS? I missed something. :P
[04:46] <tyler_> f00f_bug, not yet... trying it now, thx
[04:46] <balu1> slew: oh.. didnt think of that
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> nerv: For now, we'll see what the developers can manage.
[04:46] <n8> ah....
[04:46] <slew> balu1, synaptic is your friend. =] 
[04:47] <balu1> lol
[04:47] <slew> hi, has anyone ever seen this: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found ?
[04:47] <rob__> ...
[04:47] <balu1> im so used to findin stuff on my own
[04:47] <f00f_bug> tyler_: also can you get like an xterm to launch while you're ssh'd?
[04:47] <Nabiki> slew: What version of glibc do you have installeD?
[04:47] <Ohm> Hi
[04:47] <wastrel> v=ir
[04:48] <wastrel> V=IR i guess is correct
[04:48] <dabaR> wastrel: e = m*c*c
[04:48] <Ohm> My totem don't plays any video file, what do I?
[04:48] <wastrel> dabaR:  well einstein didn't just join the channel
[04:48] <tristanmike> !tell Ohm about restrictedformats
[04:48] <dabaR> wastrel: ya, I've been here all this time,..
[04:49] <slew> Nabiki, 2.2, afaik
[04:49] <themachine> Ohm install the win32 codecs
[04:49] <Ohm> Where I found?
[04:49] <slew> Ohm, check the ubunutu wiki
[04:49] <bhaberman> hi
[04:49] <Ohm> where is that? #)
[04:49] <bhaberman> i'm having a weird problem with Xgl - it says "no screens found", but when I use Xorg everything works fine
[04:50] <slew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:50] <tristanmike> Ohm, check the message ubotu just sent you
[04:50] <Ohm> I saw, thanks
[04:50] <Nabiki> slew:  The error is saying it wants 3.4.6 it looks like.
[04:51] <slew> Nabiki, yah, its not available anywhere that i've found so far. any ideas where to look?
[04:51] <slew> i've even considered aliening an rpm
[04:51] <balu1> no luck on synapitc N64 emus
[04:51] <bhaberman> i'm using a rage 128
[04:51] <bhaberman> if that helps
[04:51] <slew> balu1, i think scummvm is one
[04:51] <Nabiki> slew: What program are you trying to install?
[04:52] <randabis> balu1, there are some out there in the wild, but none in ubuntu repos
[04:52] <randabis> balu1, there's a few on zophar
[04:52] <slew> Nabiki, just a game, Widelands. its in the repositories, im trying to get the new version.
[04:52] <randabis> I don't know how well they work...I don't do n64 emulation
[04:52] <balu1> randabis: whats the best one?? i used project 64 alot in windows
[04:52] <randabis> balu1, I don't use 'em so I dunno
[04:52] <Nabiki> slew:  Is the new version for Breezy or for dapper?
[04:53] <Nabiki> slew: If it is for dapper, then you may need to look to dapper for some of the libs.
[04:53] <slew> Nabiki, its got both source and 'executable.' i've tried to build from source and using the 'executable' but get the same problem
[04:54] <slew> Nabiki, would it break a lot of stuff if i added a few dapper repositories to the breezy sources.list?
[04:54] <Nabiki> slew:  You likely will.  It is trying to load a module dynamically.  If the module is not there it cannot load it.
[04:55] <Nabiki> slew:  I don't know.  It is possible.
[04:55] <slew> =[
[04:55] <balu1> randabis: np ill do some research..
[04:55] <IdleOne> slew>  not the best thing to do
[04:55] <balu1> watchinn my first movie on linux. woo
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> slew: You might be slightly safer only adding them long enough to get the lib you need, and then commenting them out again so they don't interfere with other things...
[04:55] <treke|home> Hey folks. Just swapped my machines over from kubuntu to ubuntu. Really impressed
[04:56] <Nabiki> slew:  Another possability is to just download the .deb file for that lib.  Keep the .deb file for the old on on standby just incase.  When it tells you what files will be effected, read the list it shows so you know if you want to continue with the install.
[04:56] <godfathr> why am i retarted? I'm using 5.10 breezy and can't get sshd working
[04:56] <wastrel> i got wireless working
[04:56] <Cece> argh
[04:56] <Cece> what is this..
[04:56] <slew> Nabiki, where would i find the .deb for that? i've been googling but all i can find are rpms.
[04:56] <Cece> -_____________-
[04:56] <Cece> okay i'm leaving.
[04:56] <IdleOne> Cece>  this is irc
[04:57] <Nidah> hi i need help
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[04:57] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:57] <Nidah> this is re bittorent in linux
[04:57] <slew> hehe
[04:57] <slew> Nidah, yeah
[04:57] <godfathr> can't install the ssh package nor can i install openssh-server
[04:57] <godfathr> what is that?
[04:57] <Nabiki> try packages.ubuntu.com for starters.
[04:57] <slew> Nidah, bittornado..
[04:57] <Nidah> is asking for some mta file thing which i dont know
[04:57] <treke|home> Never been much of a gnome fan, but I'd have to say this is kind of rubbing off on me
[04:57] <IdleOne> godfathr>  we need more info like errors your getting , how are you trying to install?
[04:57] <slew> treke|home, in a good way?
[04:58] <treke|home> aye
[04:58] <Nidah> is asking me to open locaton for bittorrent meta files
[04:58] <godfathr> sudo apt-get install openssh-server says it depends on openssh-client (which is latest version) but can't install
[04:58] <Nidah> i dont know where they are
[04:58] <Nabiki> slew: start with packages.ubuntu.com   if you cant find it there, move on to packages.debian.org
[04:58] <slew> treke|home, i was the same way. totally <3'd kde. saw ubuntu and that was it.
[04:58] <phantasmoholic> why does bcm43xx suck?
[04:58] <godfathr> does breezy come standard with sshd?
[04:58] <metalhedd> could a grub error 18 be indicative of a failing motherboard?  I'm positive that its loading from hd0,0 and it used to work perfectly.. at the same time I also noticed that my pc has started booting directly into cmos setup about 50% of the time, but everything seems to be correct there.
[04:58] <slew> Nabiki, cool thanks homie.
[04:58] <treke|home> slew: been using the kubuntu stuff since it came out :)
[04:58] <Nabiki> But if you can get debs for it, they are prefferable to having to comple it all yourself. :)
[04:59] <Nidah> :(
[04:59] <slew> treke|home, you looked at xfce yet?
[04:59] <treke|home> not recently
[04:59] <wastrel> i changed to wifi
[04:59] <bhaberman> hey can you help me? Xgl is telling me "fatal error: no screens found", while Xorg works fine
[04:59] <rdw200169> dabaR: ok got it, it's posted
[04:59] <treke|home> slew: is it still a cde clone? :p
[04:59] <godfathr> does breezy come standard with sshd?
[04:59] <Nidah> can anyone help with bitorrent or bitornado or whateer it is
[05:00] <IdleOne> godfathr>  rumour has it, sshd is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[05:00] <wastrel> ssh isn't installed by default.
[05:00] <godfathr> idleone: ok.. here is the error issuing apt-get install openssh-server
[05:00] <bhaberman> anyone?
[05:01] <Yugoslavia> DabaR, heh!!! :)
[05:01] <slew> treke|home, looks more like a kde / enlightenment love child
[05:01] <Nidah> how do i use bitoorent with ubuntu
[05:01] <treke|home> hehe
[05:01] <rukuartic> Nidah: Should be installed as default
[05:01] <godfathr> openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4) but 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
[05:01] <godfathr> Broken Dependencies
[05:01] <godfathr> err.. Packages
[05:01] <treke|home> the biggest thing I'm loving right now is beagle
[05:02] <bhaberman>  Xgl is telling me "fatal error: no screens found", while Xorg works fine
[05:02] <Madpilot> Nidah, find a .torrent file, click on it, it should start right away
[05:02] <slew> Nidah, open your synaptic and do a search for bittorrent
[05:02] <Nidah> yes but everytime i run it its asking me to open location for meta files
[05:02] <slew> =] 
[05:02] <Madpilot> bhaberman, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper issues
[05:02] <bhaberman> thanks
[05:02] <Madpilot> Nidah, meta file = the .torrent files you get off the web
[05:02] <godfathr> apt-get install openssh-client gives me latest version already installed
[05:02] <rukuartic> !XGL
[05:02] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> treke|home: Is that graphical or text?
[05:03] <Nidah> oh
[05:03] <treke|home> tonyyarusso: It has a gui
[05:03] <Nidah> where do i get torrent files or the net
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> treke|home: Hmm, will be checking that out tonight.
[05:03] <Nabiki> go to the command line and type ssh username@servername  and see if it works. ^^
[05:03] <lukins> is there a way for evolution to display in message threads like gmail?
[05:03] <treke|home> tonyyarusso: install deskbar-applet :)
[05:03] <tyler_> I have an asus laptop and the sound drivers won't work - any tips on a good method to troubleshoot or configure drivers properly?
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> treke|home: 'k.
[05:03] <Madpilot> Nidah, depends what you're looking for - there's lots of torrent-index sites
[05:03] <IdleOne> godfathr>  sudo apt-get -f install
[05:03] <tristanmike> lukins, i don't think so, that's a gmail thing
[05:03] <godfathr> idleone: ok.. but why would i be getting that?
[05:04] <slew> i need one more thing, how do i install a new mouse cursor theme?
[05:04] <IdleOne> godfathr>  the error tells you . broken packages
[05:04] <lukins> tyler does the sound work using knoppix?
[05:04] <wastrel> sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:04] <treke|home> the vfs stuff is the only thing I kind of miss
[05:04] <godfathr> why do i have broken packages? :)
[05:04] <ITSa341> IdleOne   sorry about earlier   kept getting booted
[05:04] <godfathr> and apt-get -f install does the same thing
[05:04] <lukins> neone know of an email client desktop based that has message threading like gmail?
[05:04] <Nabiki> The mouse cursor I have not played wit yet, so I don't know. :)  gomenne.
[05:04] <Madpilot> slew, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy#HOWTO:_INSTALL_CURSOR_THEMES_ON_UBUNTU.2FGNOME
[05:05] <godfathr> wwastrel: i get the same thing with that
[05:05] <DaLinuxCode> there is only linux channels on freenode?
[05:05] <tyler_> lukins, I havn't tried it with knoppix yet.. what does it mean if it does work or does not work with knoppix?
[05:05] <Madpilot> DaLinuxCode, no, there's lots of other stuff
[05:05] <wastrel> godfathr:  breezy?   did you apt-get update?
[05:05] <Nabiki> Lukins: does Evolution have it?
[05:05] <godfathr> yes.. ofcoz
[05:05] <lukins> tyler it at least tells you that the sound works and that there are drivers for it
[05:05] <lukins> Nabiki no
[05:05] <DaLinuxCode> Madpilot: how can i check what kinda channels are there"?
[05:06] <tyler_> lukins, ok thx, so if it does not work then I am SOL ?
[05:06] <treke|home> I dont know of anything that does threads like gmail
[05:06] <tyler_> lukins, fwiw, it works with windows...
[05:06] <Madpilot> DaLinuxCode, which IRC app are you using? In XChat it's Window->Channel Listing
[05:06] <Nabiki> :P MAybe someone should suggest that to the Evolution dev people.  The client is really nice overall. ^_^
[05:06] <lukins> tyler not necessarily, back in the day i had to go to the alsa site and find out what driver...
[05:06] <wastrel> godfathr:  try installing openssh-client first
[05:06] <godfathr> i used the sources.list included with ubuntuguide.org
[05:06] <slew> Madpilot, T H A N K   Y O U
[05:06] <godfathr> wastrel: says already latest version
[05:06] <Nabiki> You can type /list in almost any window in most clients.
[05:06] <lukins> tyler that i had and modprobe the right driver in, it was a pain, but ubuntu fixed it
[05:06] <IdleOne> godfathr>  bingo
[05:06] <DaLinuxCode> Madpilot: irssi
[05:06] <roblaptop> godfathr, ouch, don't use ubuntuguide
[05:06] <Madpilot> DaLinuxCode, hmm, no idea then
[05:06] <IdleOne> !tell godfathr  about repos
[05:07] <Madpilot> !tell godfathr about ubuntuguide
[05:07] <wastrel> oh that's the problem you're using weird sources?
[05:07] <tyler_> !tell tyler_ about repos
[05:07] <Dingbat> Yay!
[05:07] <Dingbat> Got my resolution fixed.
[05:07] <Dingbat> Now going at 1280x1024! :)
[05:07] <Dingbat> Thanks to whomever gave me the tip.
[05:07] <metalhedd> what is gam_serve ?
[05:07] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode: in irssi I think /list works, but it is going to be ugly.
[05:07] <IdleOne> godfathr>  use that link to fix your repos/sources.list
[05:07] <godfathr> heh.. i have a sources.list backup
[05:07] <elkbuntu> DaLinuxCode, /cs list i believe
[05:07] <godfathr> ok
[05:07] <godfathr> thanks
[05:08] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode: What kind of channel do you want?
[05:08] <IdleOne> godfathr>  no problem dude hope it works out
[05:08] <godfathr> can i still use seveas source?
[05:08] <godfathr> has useful stuff like ati drivers
[05:08] <IdleOne> godfathr>  yes
[05:08] <elkbuntu> DaLinuxCode, /cs list searchterm would be better in irssi though
[05:08] <godfathr> ok that's all i wanted from ubuntu guide anyways
[05:08] <tyler_> lukins, thanks, i'll try it out
[05:08] <DaLinuxCode> Nabiki: no idea... I mean too much linux... something to chat... and to find some chics :)
[05:08] <DaLinuxCode> lemme try
[05:09] <DaLinuxCode> this --> /cs list <-- unknown command
[05:09] <elkbuntu> ah ok
[05:09] <elkbuntu> try /msg chanserv instead of /cs
[05:09] <godfathr> haha.. mv in my sources.list backup and everything lights up like a xmas tree
[05:09] <godfathr> Thanks again!
[05:09] <Nidah> still trying to figure out how to download files using bittorrent in linux
[05:09] <DaLinuxCode> I get this message  with /list DOING this is NOT A GOOD IDEA...
[05:09] <DaLinuxCode> so I am afraid to proceed
[05:10] <elkbuntu> it might be irssi warning you
[05:10] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode:  Freenode is primarily a dev network.  :P You will find a lot of computer people.  Linux, Windows, Mac, etc...  You will find a lot of channels devoted to GNU projects.  That is what the network is about mostly.  But you can look arround.
[05:10] <wastrel> DaLinuxCode:  that's because some irc networks (efnet) have a lot of channels and it can take a long time to list all the channels.
[05:10] <Madpilot> DaLinuxCode, it's mostly a bad idea because there are something like 3000 channels on Freenode
[05:10] <fastbreak> Hello I put the "install cd" pc verison in my cd-rom and restarted my computer, but the linux does doesnt any installing.
[05:10] <DaLinuxCode> o.O 3000!!
[05:11] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode:  That is why I said that it would be ugly in irssi.
[05:11] <DaLinuxCode> Nabiki: aha... so there's little social enterntainment here...
[05:11] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode: Console based irc clients are scarry.
[05:11] <rukuartic> Nabiki: What now?
[05:11] <Madpilot> DaLinuxCode, 2922, in fact - and I don't count the ones with fewer than 3 people in them!
[05:11] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode: For people like those assembled in this channel, there is pleanty. :)
[05:11] <IdleOne> fastbreak>  did you burn iso image or data cd?
[05:11] <DaLinuxCode> Nabiki: for instance a channel to talk about Space Exploration and stuff like that
[05:11] <fastbreak> IdleOne I got the cd in the mail
[05:12] <streetbmx> how well has ubuntu amd64 been running?
[05:12] <Nabiki> Let me do a /list real quick.  My client is window based. :P IT's safe for me. hehe
[05:12] <zembee> fastbreak, is bios set to boot from CD?
[05:12] <fastbreak> zembee dont know
[05:12] <godfathr> idleone: yeah.. a bunch of packages were tweaked cuz of that bad sources.list
[05:12] <fastbreak> do i have to boot from cd 1st
[05:12] <godfathr> idleone: fixing them now
[05:12] <Nabiki> DaLinuxCode: Are you running X11 or are you telneted?  How are you connected to the machine that you are connected to the IRC channel through? :)
[05:12] <godfathr> thanks for the heads up
[05:13] <IdleOne> godfathr>  Im sure they were :)
[05:13] <DaLinuxCode> Nabiki: X with irssi
[05:13] <godfathr> heh.. someone needs to get ubuntuguide owner to either update or specify some problems with his guide
[05:13] <metalhedd> i cant unmount a hard drive partition. I'm running from a livecd and I mounted a hd partition but now I can't unmount it. it says device is busy but I know its not!
[05:13] <godfathr> cuz it's like #1 on google
[05:13] <zembee> fastbreak, when you turn on PC does it come up in the orginal OS, while the CD is in?
[05:14] <godfathr> idleone: it's my understanding that xmms won't play music or mp3's from a samba volume directly
[05:14] <rukuartic> metalhedd: no programs running on it?
[05:14] <ddonky> has anyone else tried 'Gizmo Project" voip?
[05:14] <godfathr> but tottem will.. do you know of any other app?
[05:14] <IdleOne> godfathr>  I couldnt say
[05:14] <Nabiki> Are you using the GTK version?
[05:14] <xnull> how much is a harddisk on usb?
[05:14] <godfathr> ok no worries
[05:15] <IdleOne> godfathr>  someone in here should know
[05:15] <metalhedd> lsof | grep mnt doesn't only shows gam_serve i dont know what it is, but its not a process that I can kill.
[05:15] <rukuartic> metalhedd: I'm sure you can force it with -f, don't know if that's dangerous or not
[05:15] <metalhedd> i can't force it either.
[05:15] <fastbreak> zembee yes it comes into windows xp
[05:15] <fastbreak> zembee it works on my laptop but not my desktop
[05:16] <fastbreak> zembee my guess as you said before it might be not reading the cd-rom as boot #1
[05:16] <zembee> fastbreak, sounds like it :)
[05:16] <tyler_> How can I find out what kind of sound card I have?
[05:16] <metalhedd> tyler_: lspci
[05:17] <rukuartic> tyler_: lspci? ;)
[05:17] <tyler_> thankyou :)
[05:17] <fastbreak> tyler_ aida32
[05:17] <IdleOne> fastbreak> if its a Dell hit F12 at boot up that will ask where you want to boot from and choose the dcrom
[05:17] <rukuartic> tyler_: No problem :)
[05:17] <rukuartic> tyler_: Fastbreak's suggestion might help
[05:17] <IdleOne> cdrom*
[05:17] <metalhedd> okay, I cannot force this partition to unmount... i get 2 errors, one from umount 2 and one from umount
[05:17] <rukuartic> IdleOne: On the newer ones... Some its DEL stil
[05:17] <metalhedd> what in gods name is gam_serve ?
[05:17] <rukuartic> metalhedd: whatis gam_serve
[05:18] <IdleOne> fastbreak>  try DEL or F12 heh
[05:18] <metalhedd> whatis gam_serve
[05:18] <fastbreak> IdleOne ok
[05:18] <metalhedd> ?
[05:18] <fastbreak> ill be back once it install
[05:18] <Madpilot> metalhedd, try that command in a terminal
[05:18] <zembee> metalhedd, what process owns gam_serve?
[05:18] <metalhedd> zembee: I'm not too sure.. this is the output from lsof | grep mnt    (the mount point is /mnt)
[05:18] <IdleOne> away reading to my son :)
[05:19] <metalhedd> gam_serve 18158     ubuntu   38r      DIR        3,4      920          2 /mnt
[05:19] <hiswacko> im having trouble installing easyubuntu
[05:19] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Haha... That sounds bad. Whats the problem?
[05:19] <hiswacko> i extarct it
[05:19] <hiswacko> run the .sh script
[05:19] <Sir_quicken> hey all I am looking for a ftp server program for ubuntu, any suggestions?
[05:19] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: ProFTPd?
[05:19] <hiswacko> as it says in the readme
[05:19] <hiswacko> and nothing happens
[05:19] <Sir_quicken> for linux?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Sir_quicken,  other then learning to use ssh :P not really.
[05:20] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Of course :)
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:20] <rukuartic> hiswacko: did you try bash ./<scriptfile.sh> ? Try it with sudo?
[05:20] <rob__> would there be a reason why my sisters windows laptop (dell latitude) can reach our wireless router, but my ubuntu (dell inspiron) cannot? would she have a stronger wirelss card or something?
[05:20] <hiswacko> no idea what those r
[05:20] <metalhedd> zembee: It belongs to the process gam_server but every time I kill it it respawn
[05:20] <hiswacko> note: ive never used linux
[05:20] <rukuartic> rob__: does the wireless card work?
[05:20] <Sir_quicken> I want 2 be able 2 access my linux box on any pc via ftp, what about cerberus?
[05:21] <caglar> which command do I have to execute to make a window transparent in Xgl/Compiz?
[05:21] <rukuartic> rob__: Try looking for ndiswrapper in the wiki
[05:21] <rob__> or could it be something in my setup ( really hard geting help for this since i am on a really patchy internet which is my problem)
[05:21] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Accessing your linux box is probably best done through SSH
[05:21] <TeRaHuRtZ> Sir_quicken, proftpd or pureftp
[05:21] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: ssh and winscp is great
[05:21] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Or PuTTy
[05:21] <rob__> is anyone evne seening this...
[05:21] <ITSa341> IdleOne  did you have any ideas on those gps drivers from the manufacturers site?
[05:21] <TeRaHuRtZ> It depends what he means by "access
[05:21] <zembee> metalhedd, yes I see it on my sys - init is respawning it appears
[05:21] <caglar> which command do I have to execute to make a window transparent in Xgl/Compiz?
[05:21] <Sir_quicken> you cant ssh a linux box very well using a windows system..
[05:21] <metalhedd> zembee: why wont it let go of my disk?
[05:22] <TeRaHuRtZ> ya you can
[05:22] <TeRaHuRtZ> sshwin32
[05:22] <jbroome> metalhedd: BS
[05:22] <metalhedd> BS?
[05:22] <Sir_quicken> ftp is simplest for anywhere
[05:22] <TeRaHuRtZ> thats onlt accss to files
[05:22] <rob__> guessing no
[05:22] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: winscp is free windows software that works just like ftp
[05:22] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: But you can only download and send files. If you want complete controll, ssh is really nice
[05:22] <TeRaHuRtZ> as you probably no...
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Sir_quicken,  yes you can 'winscp' makes it very nice.
[05:22] <Sir_quicken> all I need is files for website updates
[05:22] <TeRaHuRtZ> scp is based on ssh, seems he doesnt want that
[05:22] <Sir_quicken> I ont need control
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> i find getting ssh and winscp - easir then twiddling with samba :P
[05:23] <TeRaHuRtZ> ftp is fine then
[05:23] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Oh, then ProFTPd is a great program
[05:23] <jorge_> !backports
[05:23] <ubotu> backports is, like, totally, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:23] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: trust me, try winscp. its perfect for exactly what you need. and a million times easier to set up than na ftp server
[05:23] <Sir_quicken> where I get linux verison of that?
[05:23] <godfathr> anybody here now of a good mp3 player that will play mp3's directly from a samba filesystem?
[05:23] <godfathr> for ubuntu
[05:23] <TeRaHuRtZ> of proftpd?
[05:23] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: konqueror and nautilus both handle it natively.
[05:23] <TeRaHuRtZ> !info proftpd
[05:23] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> godfathr,  Hmm mount the shares and they all should play them.
[05:24] <Sir_quicken> I dont use either
[05:24] <Sir_quicken> I use firefox
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> godfathr,  if using kde/gnomes samba browser. you may have 'issues'
[05:24] <rob__> ping...
[05:24] <metalhedd> they are both file managers. like windows explorer.
[05:24] <godfathr> dr_willis: yeah.. that's what i'm having
[05:24] <Sir_quicken> simple where do I get proftpd for linux?
[05:24] <godfathr> it does worked mounted
[05:24] <TeRaHuRtZ> !info proftpd
[05:24] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[05:24] <godfathr> not through gnome's little "psuedo mount"
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> godfathr,  they 'download' the file and not play it eh...
[05:24] <Sir_quicken> !info proftpd
[05:24] <godfathr> yeah.. just doesn't work right
[05:24] <godfathr> with xmms
[05:25] <godfathr> but it does work right with totem..
[05:25] <TeRaHuRtZ> sir quicken apt-get install proftpd
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> godfathr,  yep - thats why i normally mount the samba shares with smb4k or similer.
[05:25] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> totem must be smarter :P
[05:25] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: you can also mount an ssh filesystem I believe. that would be the simpleset way to access is from another linux machine
[05:25] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: XD So many people are helping you...
[05:25] <TeRaHuRtZ> if you cant figure that out you wont be able to set it up
[05:25] <TeRaHuRtZ> lol
[05:25] <godfathr> dr_willis.. i but the mounts in fstab and that works.. i guess i'll keep that up
[05:25] <Sir_quicken> ggggr not many listening I dont have 2 linuix machines, :P some helpin others just not listening :P
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> godfathr,  yea. ya got  2 ways of doing the samba access i guess you could say
[05:26] <metalhedd> some help me dang it! lol... i'm running off a LIVE-CD and it won't let go of my hard drive...
[05:26] <ITSa341> Anyone know how I can convert RH drivers to work with Ubuntu? I need my GPS working and all I can find is RH drivers which won't load.
[05:26] <metalhedd> demonspawn
[05:26] <TeRaHuRtZ> Sir_quicken, we just told you where to get proftpd
[05:26] <TeRaHuRtZ> Have fun writing the proftpd.conf though :)
[05:26] <Sir_quicken> not working
[05:27] <Sir_quicken> another proccess is using it?? locked
[05:27] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Put sudo infront of apt-get
[05:27] <godfathr> one last questoin.. can i have multiple "Real-Names" or usernames with irssi.. i need to connect ot the same server 4 times.. psybnc.. and it needs a different "real name" each time
[05:27] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: and close synaptic
[05:27] <TeRaHuRtZ> lol
[05:27] <hiswacko> ok, i ran it from the terminal, gave it my pass(which it didnt ask for b4)
[05:27] <metalhedd> Sir_quicken: there is no simpler way to access your linux machine from anywhere in the world, regardless of what operating system than plain old ssh server and winscp/putty/konqueror/etc etc. just take the advice and save yourself alot of trouble.
[05:27] <hiswacko> then it spit up a bunch of xml errors
[05:27] <metalhedd> you dont want ftp
[05:27] <rukuartic> metalhedd: He doesn't want ssh. It doesn't matter if its easier.
[05:27] <elkbuntu> TeRaHuRtZ, Sir_quicken webmin makes configuring proftpd easier, if you really must use ftp
[05:28] <metalhedd> i dont think he understand what ssh can do, that's why.
[05:28] <hiswacko> and said it couldnt creat GladeXML object
[05:28] <TeRaHuRtZ> elkbuntu, webmin isnt the most secure thing these days
[05:28] <elkbuntu> TeRaHuRtZ, nor is ftp
[05:28] <rukuartic> metalhedd: I don't think he cares. He wants a FTP server, thats it.
[05:28] <TeRaHuRtZ> It can be if you make it
[05:28] <Sir_quicken> exactly
[05:28] <metalhedd> whatever.... you gotta learn somehow I guess.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> i always am sure to set webmin to only allow localhost access.
[05:28] <metalhedd> bad idea.
[05:28] <NickGarvey> scp > ftp
[05:29] <TeRaHuRtZ> Most distros wont include webmin anymore, for security reasons
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> of course ive rarely seen/heard of a webmin issue. But anything can be a security issue.
[05:29] <rukuartic> Thats the problem with linux people... >< Its like, "I want to do this that way." "But its easier to do this this way!" "I don't care..." "Well tough bikkies! You'll do it our way!"
[05:29] <treitter_> has anyone used the tetex package? I'm new to it all, but I swear it's broken..
[05:29] <Sir_quicken> I know ftp well & know how 2 secure it, not a problem 2 me
[05:29] <TeRaHuRtZ> Either way he wont figure out webmin, ssh, or proftpd
[05:29] <Sir_quicken> lets see any one get through 2 firewalls pppfft
[05:29] <V4Vendetta> Sir_quicken, can't secure an insecure technology
[05:29] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: If I had a nickel for everyone said "firewalls = protection"
[05:29] <hiswacko> rukuartic: i ran it from the terminal, this time got a whole bunch of xml errors, and it said it couldnt initialize gladexml object
[05:29] <Sir_quicken> really I never got hacked FTP Ever
[05:29] <treitter_> I get: "! Undefined control sequence."  for:    "\documentclass[a4paper,11pt] {article}"
[05:29] <NickGarvey> yeah my thoughts exactly V4Vendetta
[05:30] <jimd> Is there a separate channel for Kubuntu?
[05:30] <TeRaHuRtZ> Sir_quicken, if you knew how to do ftp servers than why did you ask us where to get it
[05:30] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Whaa? :P
[05:30] <TeRaHuRtZ> my god
[05:30] <bimberi> jimd: #kubuntu
[05:30] <metalhedd> boo this man!
[05:30] <tyler_> Sir_quicken, lol are you taunting someone to try? :)
[05:30] <metalhedd> lol
[05:30] <V4Vendetta> NickGarvey, anything that transmit's a password in plain text SUCKS
[05:30] <Sir_quicken> because I sue windows
[05:30] <hiswacko> you answered my question about easyubuntu
[05:30] <V4Vendetta> Sir_quicken, i "sue" windows also
[05:30] <elkbuntu> TeRaHuRtZ,
[05:30] <V4Vendetta> since it sucks
[05:30] <r0bin> jesus there's alot of people in here
[05:30] <tyler_> lol
[05:30] <NickGarvey> yeah
[05:30] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Ooooh don't get it going.
[05:30] <Sir_quicken> I dont find many linux avalible programs
[05:30] <TeRaHuRtZ> Sir_quicken, your either a dumbass or a moronic troll, im dumb trying to help
[05:30] <^Dingbat^> <-- happy got ubuntu running.  3 weeks and going.
[05:30] <V4Vendetta> rukuartic, i'm gonna fuel this fire
[05:30] <hiswacko> rukuartic: you answered my question about easyubuntu
[05:31] <elkbuntu> gah, TeRaHuRtZ the attitude is not appropriate
[05:31] <jimd> bimberi, Thanks.
[05:31] <NickGarvey> I use ssh to tunnel a proxy in school all the time ;)
[05:31] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Oooh. X-x
[05:31] <rukuartic> NickGarvey: XD Me too!
[05:31] <hiswacko> rukuartic: it did nothing when i ran the script
[05:31] <TeRaHuRtZ> elkbuntu, oh well
[05:31] <Sir_quicken> Ter  iknow security well, as someone who used 2 hack I know security so STFU you piss ant
[05:31] <TeRaHuRtZ> Im done with him
[05:31] <r0bin> I got 15 ubuntu cds delivered today :) ... and flight-5 was released today. Whoo. not much point now eh? :D
[05:31] <lukins> do you ssh guys keep your computers on all the time at home?
[05:31] <elkbuntu> Sir_quicken, your attitude now is not appropriate either
[05:31] <metalhedd> lukins: yep
[05:31] <NickGarvey> Sir_quicken: lets not make it a flame fest
[05:31] <TeRaHuRtZ> lmao, used to hack, you can't even type for christ sake
[05:31] <NickGarvey> lukins: I turn it off buring the night
[05:31] <hiswacko> rukuartic: you said run it i ferget what, i ran it from terminal(only thing i know ow to use)
[05:31] <lukins> metelhedd does it have wake on lan or is it on full power all day
[05:32] <elkbuntu> TeRaHuRtZ, Sir_quicken, drop it
[05:32] <NickGarvey> its loud and I can't sleep heh
[05:32] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Oh, could you output what happens to the pastebin?
[05:32] <gnut> hi
[05:32] <hiswacko> rukuartic: and it gave me a whole bunch of xml errors and crapped out
[05:32] <hiswacko> rukuartic:different pc
[05:32] <gnut> i have some 32-bit apps on an amd64 machine
[05:32] <gnut> how do i install the 32-bit version of libxp6?
[05:32] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Arg... Ok so what command did you ruh?
[05:32] <lukins> can us ssh and have and have the computer wake?
[05:32] <gnut> when i do apt-get install libxp6, it only installs 64-bit versions, but i need the 32-bit version to run some commercial software
[05:32] <r0bin> gnut: create a dchrooted 32-bit system
[05:33] <hiswacko> rukuartic:launcheasyubuntu.sh
[05:33] <gnut> r0bin: hmmm.... is that relatively simple?
[05:33] <r0bin> lukins: you could enable wake-on-lan
[05:33] <rukuartic> hiswacko: did you install it right?
[05:33] <hiswacko> rukuartic: its a script in the easyubuntu package
[05:33] <gnut> so there's no way to just install a 32-bit lib?
[05:33] <hiswacko> rukuartic:thats suposed to launch an installer
[05:33] <Sir_quicken> still cant sudo apt-get install proftpd :(
[05:33] <rukuartic> hiswacko: I'm affraid I've never used/installed it...
[05:33] <Sir_quicken> sasy locked still
[05:33] <hiswacko> rukuartic: aight, thanks anyway
[05:33] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Try putting sudo infront of it. Do you know what sudo does?
[05:33] <hiswacko> rukuartic: any idea why id get a whole bunch of glade errors?
[05:34] <r0bin> gnut: You could install a binary if you could find it? but I'm still thinking that a dchrooted 32-bit system would be the safest way to go.
[05:34] <tyler_> Sir_quicken, install from source, haxor
[05:34] <hiswacko> rukuartic: no idea
[05:34] <rukuartic> Sir_quicken: Close Aptitude/Synaptic/other package managers
[05:34] <rukuartic> !tell hiswacko about root
[05:34] <Sir_quicken> TeRaHuRtZ!*@* added to ignore cunt list.
[05:34] <Sir_quicken> \
[05:34] <Sir_quicken> lol script
[05:34] <rukuartic> hiswacko: To do stuff like install, you need to do it as the super user.
[05:34] <rukuartic> Wow, this is gonna be a quick ick.
[05:34] <gnut> r0bin: hmm... okay. you're probably right. i guess i'll attempt that. i've spent too long looking for a 32-bit version of libxp6 already. thanks!
[05:34] <r0bin> Sir_quicken: have you added universe/multiverse repositories?
[05:34] <elkbuntu> Sir_quicken, cut the language or you'll be forced out of the channel
[05:34] <r0bin> gnut: np
[05:35] <rukuartic> hiswacko: And to do that, you use sudo, for Super User DO.
[05:35] <r0bin> elkbuntu: Do you think your name means some kind of profanity in africaans? :P
[05:35] <rukuartic> -.- What is it with those people.
[05:35] <elkbuntu> robin_, no more than kubuntu or xubuntu would
[05:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic: same stuff
[05:36] <r0bin> The zero is there for ironic perposes ;)
[05:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic: whole bunch of xml errors
[05:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic: something about glade
[05:36] <r0bin> pastebin it
[05:36] <hiswacko> cantr
[05:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Might need to install glade...
[05:36] <Sir_quicken> ok now I got an error with my packages running sudo apt-get update :(
[05:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: sudo apt-get install glade
[05:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic:i think easyubuntu is crapping out when it tries to
[05:36] <r0bin> what error quicken?
[05:36] <elkbuntu> r0bin, if you have knowledge of what my nick means then please, do elaborate
[05:37] <rukuartic> hiswacko: did you try sudo apt-get install easyubuntu?
[05:37] <r0bin> elkbuntu: not the foggiest, but I do have a friend from SA who would probably tell me if I gave her a cookie.
[05:37] <hiswacko> rukuartic: not yet
[05:37] <Blippe> does the live versions have a install to hd yet?
[05:37] <TeRaHuRtZ> Whats the package name for that widget thing for gnome?
[05:37] <Blippe> gdesklet
[05:37] <TeRaHuRtZ> ahh
[05:37] <hiswacko> rukuartic: its not networked though, doesnt appget used the inet?
[05:37] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Often times, stuff like that can be installed with apt-get, and it makes things much easier. If you need any programs to run it though...
[05:37] <TeRaHuRtZ> i forgot about ti
[05:37] <Sir_quicken> a malitious program evesdropping
[05:37] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Ah, yes it does.
[05:37] <elkbuntu> r0bin, then by all means ask her, but lets take this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <r0bin> lol
[05:37] <Sir_quicken> BAN that faggot he trying 2 ahck me & is about 2 get rooted
[05:38] <rukuartic> hiswacko: have you tried getting the .deb package then?
[05:38] <rukuartic> !ops
[05:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:38] <hiswacko> rukuartic:easyubuntu is suposed to instll a bunch of often needed apps for the new linux user
[05:38] <hiswacko> rukuartic: .deb?
[05:38] <r0bin> Sir_quicken: which bundle of sticks are you referring to in particular?
[05:38] <rukuartic> hiswacko: a .deb is like a .rpm, makes installation easier
[05:38] <elkbuntu> Sir_quicken, if you're worried, pull the ethernet cable
[05:38] <rukuartic> elkbuntu: XD
[05:38] <Sir_quicken> that isiot that was arguing with me the one I ignored
[05:38] <hiswacko> rukuartic: from their site "EasyUbuntu is an easy to use (duh!) script that gives the Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse."
[05:39] <r0bin> Most secure box is an unconnected box.
[05:39] <Madpilot> Sir_quicken, language. This is your last warning.
[05:39] <Sir_quicken> not worried I am rooting the lil hax0r wannabee
[05:39] <r0bin> uh-huh
[05:39] <TeRaHuRtZ> crap, can someone pastebin there default ubuntu dapper sources.list for me?
[05:39] <Sir_quicken> map then ban that retard trying 2 hack my linux
[05:39] <rukuartic> TeRaHuRtZ: #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, TeRaHuRtZ is allegedly hacking Sir_quicken
[05:39] <TeRaHuRtZ> I am?
[05:39] <elkbuntu> --^ translation of the juvenile swearing
[05:39] <bimberi> TeRaHuRtZ: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[05:40] <TeRaHuRtZ> I haven't said a word to him in a few minutes
[05:40] <r0bin> Trolling is an art form Sir_quicken has not yet mastered.
[05:40] <rukuartic> What the poor operators have to go through...
[05:40] <Sir_quicken> didnt get this evesdropping error till he threatened me
[05:40] <r0bin> Sir_quicken: How about a screenshot of this error? ;)
[05:40] <rukuartic> scp /dev/oven/cookie /home/shared/ops/mouth
[05:40] <Sir_quicken> robin kiss my butt u tard..
[05:40] <rukuartic> r0bin: ROFL
[05:40] <Blippe> yay
[05:41] <r0bin> Doot.
[05:41] <TeRaHuRtZ> Heh, he must've kept carrying it on
[05:41] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:41] <rukuartic> omgoodness I got an evesdropping error!!
[05:41] <r0bin> So, anyone know why when I did an apt-get upgrade on breezy, X stopped working?
[05:41] <ITSa341> lol   some people are just looking for trouble
[05:41] <rukuartic> ITSa341: They should use Gentoo.
[05:41] <ITSa341> lol
[05:42] <r0bin> rukuartic: *They ARE using gentoo.
[05:42] <metalhedd> hey now.
[05:42] <metalhedd> gentoo is nice.
[05:42] <r0bin> I used gentoo back in 2003.
[05:42] <rukuartic> ITSa341: r0bin, We're far too friendly in here. They go to Gentoo/Fedora, they won't servive
[05:42] <ITSa341> <-- has to admit he's not running ubuntu right now    Xandros4 for the moment
[05:42] <rukuartic> Thanks operators btw.
[05:42] <metalhedd> gentoo taught me everything I know.
[05:42] <glick> excuse me is there anyway to undelete something?
[05:42] <Eleaf> mm
[05:43] <ITSa341> But I find this the friendliest help room I have been to in years and very helpful usually
[05:43] <r0bin> True, but it also taught me that life's too short to waste watching a console stream compilation verbosity.
[05:43] <Blippe> keep ontopic?
[05:43] <rukuartic> glick: Did you check ~/.trash
[05:43] <rukuartic> glick: How did you delete the file?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> glick,  depends on how you deleted it.
[05:43] <glick> rukuartic, yeah its not in trash
[05:43] <metalhedd> r0bin: exactly why I switched.
[05:43] <Suture> most of the other help channels will eat you alive..
[05:43] <glick> right clicked and then selected delete
[05:43] <Nabiki> glick:  If you dragged it to the trash can you can drag it out...   If you actually deleted it, it is likely gone.
[05:43] <rukuartic> Nabiki: What about autopsy?
[05:43] <glick> isnt there a way to see whats on the disk itself?
[05:43] <Nabiki> Check your trash can. ^_^
[05:43] <rukuartic> Nabiki: Not in trash...
[05:44] <Nabiki> What is autopsy? Maybe I need to look it up. ^_^
[05:44] <rukuartic> Nabiki: Its a front end to something... forensics tool
[05:44] <r0bin> when you detele data, it's not really deleted. The area of the disk occupied by that data is marked empty in the journal / file allocation table.
[05:44] <Madpilot> !info autopsy
[05:44] <metalhedd> so who's running dapper anyway?  any major snags? i'm considering it
[05:44] <ubotu> autopsy: (graphical interface to TASK), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.05-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[05:44] <glick> so i take it im screwed
[05:44] <hiswacko> rukuartic: in the process of copying over the error. im guessing i shouldnt paste it in the chan? its like 15 lines
[05:44] <rukuartic> Madpilot: why'd you ban the second guy btw?
[05:44] <r0bin> metalhedd: I was running it a few days ago, not one bother for me. Used it for a weeks.
[05:44] <r0bin> * few weeks
[05:44] <rukuartic> !tell hiswacko about pastebin
[05:44] <Madpilot> rukuartic, read the backscroll - he was trolling first
[05:45] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Kay
[05:45] <metalhedd> r0bin: so why aren't you running it now? ;)
[05:45] <rukuartic> glick: Not all is lost...
[05:45] <ITSa341> Anyone know how I can convert RH drivers to work with Ubuntu? I need my GPS working and all I can find is RH drivers which won't load.
[05:45] <rukuartic> glick: There's always ways of getting things back..
[05:45] <r0bin> metalhedd: decided to install OSX86 for a while ;) Couldn't get networking to work so I'm switching back currently.
[05:45] <hiswacko> rukuartic: ty, ill post it shortly
[05:45] <metalhedd> ITSa341: alien?
[05:46] <metalhedd> r0bin: i always wanted to try that...
[05:46] <glick> how can i recover it?
[05:46] <rukuartic> hiswacko: No problem
[05:46] <ITSa341> metalhedd  alien is only for packages right? Not actual drivers? All I can get is the driver.c files
[05:46] <rukuartic> glick: Hold up... looking around. Tried Google?
[05:46] <r0bin> metalhedd: It's good if your hardware is compatible. AMD64 + ATI = No. Intel + ATI = Yes, no networking. Gah.
[05:46] <r0bin> Very pretty
[05:46] <metalhedd> ITSa341: you could run a redhat kernel probably.
[05:46] <rukuartic> glick: In the future, its probably best to alias your rm command to mv (file) ~/.trash
[05:46] <r0bin> but that's all it is.
[05:47] <rukuartic> glick: and change rm to something like remove. Makes the action more deliberate
[05:47] <r0bin> hmm
[05:47] <metalhedd> r0bin what about k7+nvidia?
[05:47] <r0bin> No nvidia drivers :(
[05:47] <r0bin> ATI only, or Intel SIS.
[05:48] <metalhedd> ITSa341: otherwise you'd have to pick through the error messages to find out which patches you need to apply to get the driver to work.
[05:48] <r0bin> The nvidia driver doesn't have any 3d accel, so no CoreImage or OpenGL or QuartzExtreme. So no prettyness.
[05:48] <dli> how do I get the total disk space used by an installed package?
[05:48] <hiswacko> ok, now i cant save anything to my usb key
[05:48] <rukuartic> glick: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.02.shtml Perhaps...
[05:48] <ITSa341> metalhedd    there are 100's of them to pick through and I'm a relative newbie
[05:48] <hiswacko> tried to add write permission,s but it says im not the owner and cant change the setting
[05:48] <blanky> !ati
[05:48] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:49] <metalhedd> ITSa341: probably have better luck installing a redhat kernel.
[05:49] <metalhedd> ITSa341: you can probably find instructions somewhere.
[05:49] <ITSa341> metalhedd    yuck
[05:49] <metalhedd> ITSa341: meh
[05:49] <Nabiki> I'm out everyone.  Gotta go. ^_^
[05:49] <metalhedd> ITSa341: ubuntu's kernel is nothing special either.
[05:49] <rukuartic> Bye Nabiki
[05:49] <liable> meh, a udev upgrade, wonder if it will break stuff.
[05:49] <maximaus> dli, one way is to open synaptic and fine the package and get its properties.
[05:49] <r0bin> metalhedd: Cheap ATI 9* or > cards are good on osx86, with intel/amd. amd64 = no.
[05:50] <dli> maximaus, thanks
[05:50] <metalhedd> ITSa341: you need to compile your own from scratch if you wnat a real nice one.
[05:50] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Btw on the ban thing again, I was just curious to see if you had like, "Oh yeah... I found out he really was hacking by doing this l33t stuff with the console" XD
[05:50] <r0bin> rukuartic: ping -f!
[05:50] <Madpilot> rukuartic, nothing so fancy - I just read the backscroll
[05:50] <metalhedd> r0bin: maybe i'll try it if I can find a copy. i'm sure i can pick up an old ati card.
[05:50] <rukuartic> r0bin: dd /dev/random /dev/stdio
[05:50] <r0bin> rukuartic: ! ;o; noes! my computer asplode! bad hax0r
[05:51] <bryan_> list
[05:51] <ITSa341> metalhedd  of all the times I have tried to compile my own kernel  2 have actually been bootable after
[05:51] <metalhedd> ITSa341: practice practice practice.
[05:51] <ITSa341> hehe
[05:51] <metalhedd> ITSa341: in my gentoo days I could reconfigure a kernel in 2 minutes flat.
[05:51] <rukuartic> Madpilot: :P I figured as much.
[05:51] <glick> screw it ill just download it again
[05:51] <rukuartic> glick: Good luck mate
[05:52] <glick> thanks
[05:52] <rukuartic> glick: WAIT!? You can just download it? -.-
[05:52] <r0bin> ping-f.us would be a kick ass vhost/domain name
[05:52] <ITSa341> metalhedd I just need to learn to BACKUP then practice
[05:52] <glick> rukuartic, yeah but its a large file
[05:52] <rukuartic> glick: Don't forget to turn rm to mv
[05:52] <rukuartic> glick: Aww... x-x
[05:52] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  what is that link for rikaline?
[05:52] <metalhedd> just keep a working kernel entry in menu.lst you should be fine
[05:52] <ITSa341> IdleOne   brb
[05:52] <bryan_> hey, i'm a complete nix noob
[05:52] <bryan_> could anybody give me a hand? i'm trying to install an nes emulator
[05:53] <ITSa341> IdleOne   http://www.rikaline.com/download02.htm
[05:53] <bryan_> i have the folder on my desktop, but none of the executables will open
[05:53] <rukuartic> bryan_: What seems to be the problem? (I'm a bit of a nub myself but it might be an easy problem)
[05:53] <r0bin> It's five am. Am I obsessed?
[05:53] <ITSa341> IdleOne   sorry about earlier when you were trying to help   kept getting the boot
[05:53] <metalhedd> bryan_: use synaptic  search for 'nes' and install one
[05:53] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  no problem
[05:54] <thomas`> anyone know how a prog for reiserfs fileststem were i can pull files off my linux drive to my windows ntfs
[05:54] <bryan_> but, what if i want the already downloaded ones? can i not use those?
[05:54] <hiswacko> ok im getting confused
[05:54] <ITSa341> IdleOne  I have the gps-6010  usb
[05:54] <rukuartic> thomas`: You can't quite write to ntfs from linux...
[05:54] <r0bin> bryan_: did you download the nes emulator for linux? or windows?
[05:54] <hiswacko> its not letting me change these permissions cause im not the owner
[05:54] <thomas`> not write
[05:54] <metalhedd> bryan_: the rom's or the emulator?
[05:54] <bryan_> for linux
[05:54] <bryan_> the binaries
[05:54] <thomas`> but if i was in window
[05:54] <r0bin> rukuartic: unless you build it into the kernal
[05:54] <hiswacko> but it says the owner is mrglass
[05:54] <hiswacko> and im logged in as mrglass!
[05:54] <r0bin> thomas`: you want to read the file system
[05:54] <Jocko9> you can with captive ntfs
[05:54] <rukuartic> bryan_: Ya need to explain what the problem is :p
[05:54] <thomas`> windows xp for isntance and wanna get some files off linux drive partition
[05:54] <narg_> r0bin: nah, at noon tomorrow, if your still here, THEN your are obsessed :)
[05:55] <thomas`> then read
[05:55] <rukuartic> Isn't writing to NTFS rather dangerous/experimental?
[05:55] <bryan_> i have the emulator binary for linux
[05:55] <thomas`> and copy to windows
[05:55] <rukuartic> bryan_: and?
[05:55] <r0bin> thomas`: there is a reiserfs system driver for windows
[05:55] <r0bin> google it
[05:55] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  gimme a minute gonna see what I can figure out
[05:55] <metalhedd> bryan_: the software you downloaded is probably also available in synaptic, which is how you would install it instead of just having the binaries sitting there.
[05:55] <thomas`> werd k
[05:55] <bryan_> sorry. and the executable file (or whatever there called) won't open
[05:55] <r0bin> reiserfs device driver windows
[05:55] <ITSa341> I found it easiest to just share one filesystem with WinXP and Ubuntu
[05:55] <ITSa341> IdleOne   ty
[05:55] <n0yd> the reiserfs driver doesn't support anythign yet besides viewing files
[05:55] <rukuartic> bryan_: metalhedd  is right. Its much easier to apt-get stuff
[05:55] <bryan_> but, isn't there some way to open the binaries without synaptic?
[05:55] <r0bin> n0yd: shit? really
[05:56] <n0yd> yup
[05:56] <rukuartic> bryan_: Should be
[05:56] <r0bin> n0yd: not even copying them?
[05:56] <rukuartic> bryan_: ./<the file name>
[05:56] <n0yd> It's not like the ext2/3 driver
[05:56] <bryan_> k
[05:56] <bryan_> just use the terminal?
[05:56] <rukuartic> bryan_: Did it come with an "install" file?
[05:56] <n0yd> Hopefully someday it will be
[05:56] <metalhedd> bryan_: yes
[05:56] <rukuartic> bryan_: yeah. the ./ is really important btw
[05:56] <r0bin> thomas`: your best bet would be to copy it to a fat32 drive
[05:56] <bryan_> okay, thx, i'll see if i can figure it out
[05:56] <metalhedd> bryan_: what emulator is it? whats the link to download it.
[05:56] <tyler_> I'm trying to install alsa sound drivers, but it looks like it doesn't like any of the compilers:  "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"    what to do?
[05:57] <n0yd> NTFS support in 2.6.15 is a lot better than any other kernel version i can remember
[05:57] <r0bin> tyler_: install gcc?
[05:57] <ITSa341> Doesn't Paragon still make a program to read/write to etx3??
[05:57] <bryan_> it's...lemme look real quick
[05:57] <rukuartic> bryan_: Come back if y'need any help :)
[05:57] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  go to that link and download the Linux driver for your gps it should be called Linux.exe then in terminal type cd Desktop and then ./linux.exe and it should install itself and then your gps should work ( crossed fingers )
[05:57] <tyler_> r0bin, hehe, thanks I just assumed it was already there, doh!
[05:58] <r0bin> That company that makes an HFS+ device driver for windows (mac drive I think), made an ext2/3 and reiserfs extension iirc
[05:58] <rukuartic> Where would we send feature requests, out of interest?
[05:58] <ITSa341> IdleOne  brb  already downloaded
[05:58] <r0bin> tyler_: apt-get install build-essentials gcc3.3-dev
[05:58] <atlaswd> ftpd not workin
[05:58] <r0bin> rukuartic: turn up to an ubuntu meeting I guess? :P
[05:58] <bryan_> don't remember who asked
[05:58] <atlaswd> how do I ssh?
[05:59] <bryan_> but i'm using http://fceultra.sourceforge.net/
[05:59] <rukuartic> atlaswd: ssh username@host
[05:59] <tyler_> r0bin, Couldn't find package build-essentials, am I missing a repository or something?
[05:59] <hiswacko> rukuartic: im issing something. i cant change permissions for my usb drive cause im not the owner, but the owner is listed as mrglass and im logged into ubuntu as mrglass
[05:59] <r0bin> Oh god. They actually made a library called "poppler".
[05:59] <ipfw> how come evolution doesn't allow you to select a smtp/pop3/imap4 port to run on ?
[05:59] <r0bin> sorry, build-essential
[05:59] <r0bin> no s
[05:59] <solaar> quick question, does ubuntu support usb wlan?
[05:59] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Hmm now? whats the exact ls -la?
[05:59] <r0bin> o.o
[05:59] <tyler_> r0bin, thanks, now it is:  Couldn't find package gcc3.3-dev
[06:00] <hiswacko> rukuartic: -la?
[06:00] <rukuartic> solaar: Try ndiswrapper. :)
[06:00] <metalhedd> bryan_: funny, theres no source there. :)
[06:00] <rukuartic> hiswacko: -la = list format with all files shown
[06:00] <r0bin> tyler: apt-cache search gcc3.3
[06:00] <solaar> so i'll take that as a no
[06:00] <solaar> thanks
[06:00] <solaar> cheers
[06:00] <rukuartic> solaar: No, probably does
[06:00] <r0bin> and get the package name from there
[06:00] <solaar> oh
[06:00] <solaar> hmm i have a wlan pci card
[06:00] <rukuartic> solaar: I'm using a PCI wlan card, but there's difinately stuff out there for usb wlan
[06:00] <rukuartic> !tell solaar about ndiswrapper
[06:00] <metalhedd> bryan_: anyway, fceultra is the most popular probably... it almost definitely in the repositories... just typeing 'sudo apt-get install fceultra' would install it perfectly.
[06:01] <solaar> i tried to get my wlan card to work with pc-bsd
[06:01] <solaar> didn't work
[06:01] <r0bin> tyler_: gcc-3.3-base and gcc-3.3
[06:01] <rukuartic> solaar: Most wlan things need ndiswrapper to get working. Pretty easy to install
[06:01] <atlaswd> would a sleeping x-scrensaver cause linux 2 think it has an evesdropper?
[06:01] <solaar> so now i'm gonna try ubuntu
[06:01] <hiswacko> rukuartic: i couldnt write to the usb key, so i wet to the folder properties to enable write access
[06:01] <atlaswd> or other sleeping program
[06:01] <ITSa341> IdleOne  sudo: ./Linux.exe: command not found
[06:01] <tyler_> r0bin, cool, thanks but it looks like it might not even use it... i just inatlled the build-essential and ran the ./install for my realtek alsa and its doing its thing :)
[06:01] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Do you know what filesystem it is?
[06:01] <solaar> people always taut linux but damn, it's pretty cool that with windows hardware just works
[06:01] <r0bin> apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.3 gcc-3.3-base
[06:01] <r0bin> tyler_: cool :)
[06:02] <hiswacko> rukuartic: probly fat32, i can check
[06:02] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  let me try
[06:02] <rukuartic> Can linux write to fat32? Or only fat?
[06:02] <ITSa341> IdleOne  I did run that file in WinXP and it is s self extracting zip
[06:02] <atlaswd> because linux talks directly 2 device no BS windows software 2 egt in way
[06:02] <hatake_kakashi> rukuartic: should be both
[06:02] <ITSa341> it extracts some files and folders
[06:02] <r0bin> okay wtf, my X server just started
[06:02] <^Dingbat^> rukuartic -> both.
[06:03] <atlaswd> mine is on also
[06:03] <hiswacko> rukuartic: nvm, its fat
[06:03] <solaar> rukuartic: do you know of any *nix that supports pci wlan cards natively? it's a dlink card (atheros chipset) if that helps
[06:03] <rukuartic> hatake_kakashi, ^Dingbat^, hiswacko is having problems with his usb card
[06:03] <rukuartic> solaar: nope... Ndiswrapper's really easy to install though
[06:03] <ITSa341> sad when  a manufacturer gives you a self extracting .exe file for the linux drivers
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ITSa341,  :)
[06:03] <rukuartic> solaar: didja check the ubuntu wiki? its got a step by step install tutorial
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> wine drivers.exe
[06:03] <ron_> whats a good BT client?
[06:03] <rukuartic> solaar: and what program are ya using?
[06:04] <rukuartic> ron_: Azureus
[06:04] <solaar> right now? irssi
[06:04] <ron_> ty
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> ron_,  i tend to use Azuraus
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> or however the *$*#(@ its spelt
[06:04] <ron_> :)
[06:04] <rukuartic> solaar: Der I'm sorry... wlan card
[06:04] <r0bin> Azureus is java based and memory hungry :(
[06:04] <ITSa341> Dr_Willis I am sharing a filesystem with WinXP  I just switched windows and ran it there
[06:04] <rukuartic> r0bin: Yes, but feature filled and it has a cool frog.
[06:04] <metalhedd> solaar: i have a dwl-g510 w/ atheros chipset.  had to use ndiswrapper, but there is an atheros native driver that works, but last i tried it was a bit flaky.
[06:04] <solaar> it's a 108mbps dlink card, air xpress or soething
[06:04] <atlaswd> ok ssh timed out :P
[06:04] <r0bin> and utorrent under wine is painful death.
[06:04] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: you have to first unmount the device, set it to rw access under /etc/fstab and then try remounting it manually. Not by plugging and unplugging because that may set automount to mount it as ro instead of rw
[06:04] <solaar> hold up i'll get the model number
[06:05] <rukuartic> solaar: Definately check the ndiswrapper pages at https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:05] <r0bin> does dapper flight-5 have gnome 2.14?
[06:05] <metalhedd> theres a flight 5?
[06:05] <solaar> rukuartic: dwl-g520
[06:05] <hatake_kakashi> r0bin: some runs utorrent under cedega. Don't know whats the output of that in the long run however
[06:05] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi: how do i set it to rw access under /etc/fstab
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> utorrent under cedega.. lol..
[06:05] <r0bin> hatake_kakashi: under wine it's a terrible lag on system resources, even when not downloading anything
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> thats scary.
[06:05] <rukuartic> solaar: I'm tellin ya man, linux people only help ya to some point :P Then ya gotta kinda learn to do things yourself.
[06:06] <solaar> wtf
[06:06] <tyler_> r0bin, I spoke too soon.. it quit on an error, so then I installed the gcc-3.3 (not the dev) and now it fails with:  configure: error: this packages requires a curses library,  and 'apt-get install curses' and 'apt-get install lcurses' both won't work  - any ideas?
[06:06] <rukuartic> solaar: ndiswrapper is something that takes windows drivers, and makes them work in linux
[06:06] <r0bin> try apt-get install ncurses
[06:06] <solaar> rukuartic: lol thanks man. i'm reading :)
[06:06] <eugman> What commands do I use to recursively change group ownership and group permisions?
[06:06] <rukuartic> solaar: No problem. Tell me if you get stuck
[06:06] <atlaswd> eeerr ssh is timing out, any otehr things I can do?
[06:06] <r0bin> tyler_: ncurses as oppose to lcurses/curses
[06:06] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  does that site have a howto that explains how to install it ?
[06:06] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: you have to edit it with your favourite text editor and there is a field where you type in for usb devices to set it to rw I think
[06:06] <Madpilot> eugman, chown & chmod, with the -R option
[06:06] <metalhedd> eugman: chmod and chown
[06:06] <tyler_> r0bin, Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.    :(
[06:07] <^Dingbat^> isn't an ndiswrapper something you'd use with novell a long time ago? To wrap their packets over ethernet? :)
[06:07] <ITSa341> IdleOne  when you run the file in windows it extracts some files and folders with a text file that says  ...brb
[06:07] <hatake_kakashi> r0bin: well, that could technically be the design of the utorrent could be somewhat flawed. Then again, wine is a temporary freedom access compared to nothing
[06:07] <eugman> Is there a way to change the group aspects without defining everything?
[06:07] <r0bin> tyler: apt-cache search curses
[06:07] <tyler_> r0bin, E: Package ncurses has no installation candidate - what does that mean?
[06:07] <bryan_> k, so i almost got the file opened. i'm in terminal, but is there some kind of command similar to cd in windows?
[06:07] <hatake_kakashi> tyler_: its libncurses
[06:07] <metalhedd> bryan_: its cd
[06:07] <r0bin> yeah
[06:07] <NickGarvey> bryan_: cd is the same thing
[06:07] <Madpilot> eugman, read man chmod
[06:07] <bryan_> just cd usr (for example)
[06:08] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  dont paste in here if its a large amount of text
[06:08] <eugman> fair enough
[06:08] <Madpilot> !tell bryan_ about cli
[06:08] <r0bin> brb, i'm off to rebootz0rs
[06:08] <mordof> is there something for gnome that is like superkaramba?
[06:09] <rukuartic> mordof: What is superkaramba?
[06:09] <^Dingbat^> define superkaramba? :)
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> gdesklets for gnome, karamba for kde
[06:09] <tyler_> r0bin, hatake_kakashi, thanks
[06:09] <atlaswd> there is X ked & gnome thats ones I know
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> YahooWhateveritscalld for XP
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:09] <glick> superkaramba is just stupid gizmo shit to make your shit run slower
[06:09] <ITSa341> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:09] <mordof> Dr3as, thanks :)
[06:09] <rukuartic> mordof: Try gkrellm then :P
[06:09] <mordof> ooo
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> and all 3 are nasty Eye candy
[06:09] <randabis> super karamba is karamba but super
[06:09] <elkbuntu> glick, language check please
[06:09] <randabis> lol
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> #windows people are funny
[06:10] <atlaswd> AND you talk about my language
[06:10] <Jhair> rukuartic, sounds like KDE crap
[06:10] <atlaswd> ...
[06:10] <eugman> umm how do you get out of a man page?
[06:10] <rukuartic> Jhair: No not really. Pretty good. Sysmon thing.
[06:10] <rukuartic> eugman: press q
[06:10] <elkbuntu> eugman, q
[06:10] <dark_light> what is the package with mp3 codec?
[06:10] <eugman> thanks
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> dark_light, w32codecs
[06:10] <ITSa341> IdleOne  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10038
[06:10] <^Dingbat^> automatix.
[06:10] <rukuartic> !tell dark_light about forbiddenformats
[06:10] <solaar> oh hmm i can't send messages on this network
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> !restrictedformats
[06:10] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:10] <atlaswd> register first
[06:10] <solaar> rukuartic: thanks for the help--you ever on efnet?
[06:10] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Thats it :p
[06:10] <Madpilot> !tell ^Dingbat^ about automatix
[06:10] <randabis> you don't need w32codecs for mp3
[06:10] <V4Vendetta> rukuartic, forbidden, sounds naughty :-D
[06:10] <rukuartic> solaar: Naw... I'm only on this channel. Trying not to get addicted
[06:11] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Bwaahah... JPG...
[06:11] <ITSa341> IdleOne   got booted over the pasting thing in the first 10 seconds during my first visit  guess I didn't consider a two line paste as flooding until this room LOL
[06:11] <solaar> this server is too regulated for me
[06:11] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi: ok, i opened /etc/fstab, i dont see anything about usb
[06:11] <solaar> rukuartic: what irc client do you use?
[06:11] <^Dingbat^> rukuartic <- using ubuntu for 3 weeks now.  Love it.
[06:11] <rukuartic> ITSa341: We're sensitive. One line pastes are too much XD
[06:11] <V4Vendetta> solaar, yea especially this channel, it's run like stalin's russia
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Stalins russia? never noticed.
[06:11] <solaar> V4Vendetta: i just meant compared to efnet they're all pretty strict
[06:11] <rukuartic> ^Dingbat^: Three weeks as well, hlds/mysql/apache server
[06:11] <fastbreak> I got this error message that says "Base system installation error" "The deboottrap program exited with an error (return value 1)." "check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log fir details.
[06:11] <Madpilot> V4Vendetta, really?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[06:12] <rukuartic> solaar: I'm using issirc or something like that...
[06:12] <dark_light> V4Vendetta, there are no w32codecs for amd64
[06:12] <rukuartic> solaar: type "IRC" in the consle :P
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: in another window, type mount on itself
[06:12] <^Dingbat^> <-- trying to convince himself to cut over completely (now dualboot)
[06:12] <atlaswd> How do I get the stuff I install on my app menu?/ it doesnt show in he list after install
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Efnet - 'one step above total anarchy'
[06:12] <dark_light> rukuartic, the bot don't said anything :P
[06:12] <solaar> Dr_Willis: efnet is not above anarchy :)
[06:12] <rukuartic> Why would anyone want to destroy their computer with w32 stuff?
[06:12] <Madpilot> atlaswd, a lot of stuff doesn't have menu entries
[06:12] <rukuartic> dark_light: It was restricted formats, not forbidden :P
[06:12] <ITSa341> rukuartic  I just was used to most rooms allow up to 3 lines and the info didn't give a cutoff    found out the hard way    But I learn quick  :-)
[06:12] <^Dingbat^> Need an extra HD to backup my Winstuff before I reformat everything for linux ;)
[06:12] <rukuartic> ITSa341: Yeah... :P
[06:12] <eugman> Hey anyone know hwo to set it up so when a file is copied from a ntfs partition it doesn't retain it's no read status?
[06:12] <eugman> er no write
[06:12] <hiswacko> see it there
[06:12] <dark_light> !tell dark_light about restrictedformats
[06:13] <metalhedd> rukuartic: people who want to watch the things they download. :)
[06:13] <elkbuntu> V4Vendetta, can you imagine how chaotic this channel would be if flaming and enter spam were let run rampant?
[06:13] <rukuartic> ^Dingbat^: Just buy a new one ;) They're pretty cheap
[06:13] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi: i see it there, but its not in the fstab file
[06:13] <Madpilot> eugman, you have to chmod it after you transfer it, AFAIK
[06:13] <rukuartic> metalhedd: :P
[06:13] <DaLinuxCode> I heard Slask is dying
[06:13] <V4Vendetta> elkbuntu, dunno
[06:13] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Where would me make feature requests?
[06:13] <Madpilot> rukuartic, for what?
[06:13] <^Dingbat^> Make your own dang feature rukuartic ;) ;)
[06:13] <atlaswd> HELP I need 2 install proftpd as standalone but getting errors
[06:13] <fastbreak> hello, I got this error message that says "Base system installation error" "The deboottrap program exited with an error (return value 1)." "check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log fir details.
[06:13] <metalhedd> i have to admit though, its easier under linux to get every format to play than it is in windows...
[06:13] <ITSa341> If I can get this GPS and GPSdrive working I can go completely Win free on this laptop and on ALL the laptops here soon
[06:13] <bryan_> okay, now i'm having some more idiot trouble
[06:13] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Ubuntu. EG: A minimal install option etc
[06:14] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: ok, do you see the exact locations, paste that line for USB
[06:14] <metalhedd> i've never come across a file that i can't play.
[06:14] <bryan_> how come i can't copy anything to my hd? it says i don't have permissions
[06:14] <Madpilot> rukuartic, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:14] <rukuartic> fastbreak: Didja do tail /target/var/log/bootstrap.log?
[06:14] <DaLinuxCode> I heard Slask is dying
[06:14] <bryan_> though my account has admin permissions
[06:14] <atlaswd> you have 2 use sudo
[06:14] <rukuartic> Madpilot: bugs works for requests too?
[06:14] <^Dingbat^> You mean Slackware Dalinuxcode?
[06:14] <cafuego> Who is Slask and why isn't ge in hospital?
[06:14] <rukuartic> cafuego: +lol
[06:14] <metalhedd> bryan_: your account only has permission to its own home directory... the 'admin' privilige means you are allowed to use sudo
[06:14] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  well it looks like you need to make install but Im not certain from what directory you do it :/
[06:14] <Madpilot> rukuartic, yes, there's a bug category for requests/wishlist items
[06:15] <ITSa341> IdleOne  it just gives me a bunch of errors   brb
[06:15] <randabis> IdleOne, iirc, the module he's trying to install is for RH9, incompatible kernel
[06:15] <bryan_> can i delete the account and just have full privleges? and what is sudo?
[06:15] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  sudo apt-get build-essential then try the make command
[06:15] <atlaswd> How do I clear my apt-get cache?
[06:15] <cafuego> bryan_: You could, but it would be an extremely bad idea.
[06:15] <bryan_> okay
[06:15] <ITSa341> IdleOne  already did all that for Win4LinPro
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  sudo apt-get build-essential install build-essential then try the make command
[06:16] <^Dingbat^> bryan_ it's best to run on non-priviledge account most of the time -- you can hurt your system otherwise if you make a stupid mistake.
[06:16] <metalhedd> bryan_: no you can't.  if you could, it would still be a horrible idea, and thirdly, sudo will let you run commands as if you were the superuser.
[06:16] <balu1> what is a .tar.bz2?
[06:16] <atlaswd> I cant get proftpd 2 install in standalone now need help clearing cache
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  cancel all that lol
[06:16] <balu1> i dont see an install or anything in it
[06:16] <ITSa341> IdleOne  this is the second bootable kernel I have compiled myself  :-)
[06:16] <randabis> atlaswd, one way is to do rm /var/cache/apt/packages/*
[06:16] <bryan_> k, what is sudo and how do i use it?
[06:16] <gebharra> atlaswd: sudo apt-get clean
[06:16] <cafuego> !sudo
[06:16] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:16] <metalhedd> for example 'sudo apt-get install fceultra' would install the emulator for you and save you all this trouble... where as just plain old 'apt-get install fceultra' would tell you you don't have permissions
[06:16] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  Im at a loss buddy sorry
[06:16] <metalhedd> bryan ^^
[06:16] <randabis> atlaswd, apt-get clean is better though
[06:16] <^Dingbat^> you put "sudo" before any linux command -- it'll ask you for your superuser password.
[06:16] <ITSa341> IdleOne  thanks for trying
[06:17] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi:how do i open fstab with write permissions?
[06:17] <atlaswd> will it also remove record of old install?
[06:17] <cafuego> bryan_: In short: an easy-to-configure wrapper that allows you to tweak root access for user accounts.
[06:17] <bryan_> okay, thx
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> supy cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[06:17] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  the driver is there there has to be someone who knows how to get this working
[06:17] <hatake_kakashi> hiswacko: you are supposed to run it via sudo
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> I mean sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[06:17] <hiswacko> hatake_kakashi:kk
[06:17] <rukuartic> hiswacko: sudo <text editor> fstab
[06:17] <randabis> bryan_, if you don't want to type sudo all the time, try sudo -i in the console and you'll have a root terminal
[06:17] <ITSa341> IdleOne  GPS mapping and tracking are the only things I need to be able to go Win free on all the company laptops
[06:17] <r0bin> back
[06:17] <rukuartic> r0bin: Your boot went well?
[06:17] <^Dingbat^> There's already a root terminal in one of the Gnome menus.
[06:18] <IdleOne> ITSa341>  email the company give them heck see if you can egt help from them
[06:18] <atlaswd> where wouldI find proftpd? I need 2 remove 2 get fresh install
[06:18] <randabis> ^Dingbat^, true
[06:18] <r0bin> rukuartic, indeed :) running a nice copy of dapper now :)
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[06:18] <bryan_> so, there's no easy drag-drop way to the primary drive?
[06:18] <r0bin> ubuntulooks is sexy
[06:18] <rukuartic> atlaswd: Weren't you here before?
[06:18] <cafuego> atlaswd: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge proftpd'
[06:18] <balu1> is there something in linux that opens .rars
[06:18] <keith> can anyone here help me with installing UT2003?
[06:18] <ITSa341> IdleOne  been doing that for two years now. They finally released the RH drivers so maybe soon they'll do more.
[06:18] <IdleOne> !rar
[06:18] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:18] <r0bin> balul: www.rarlabs.com
[06:18] <r0bin> cli rar
[06:18] <HappyFool> !ops
[06:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:19] <gebharra> atlaswd: you can remove a package by using 'sudo apt-get remove <package name>'
[06:19] <metalhedd> bryan_: you can run a root filemanager.
[06:19] <randabis> balu1, rar-nonfree
[06:19] <gebharra> not quite sure I understand what you are asking
[06:19] <Madpilot> HappyFool, what?
[06:19] <balu1> randabis: wat is that lol
[06:19] <solaar> thanks for all the help everybody
[06:19] <HappyFool> Madpilot: spammer - saxible
[06:19] <rukuartic> Madpilot: I think that proftpd guy's back ;P
[06:19] <atlaswd> I removed it but ti wont reinstall new
[06:19] <randabis> balu1, the package from the repos that will let you open .rar
[06:19] <gebharra> does it give you an error message?
[06:19] <^Dingbat^> Spammers here?
[06:19] <cafuego> bryan_: As long as you set fil;e/directory permissions correctly, drag & drop will work fine.
[06:19] <balu1> ohh
[06:19] <balu1> i suck ;p
[06:19] <metalhedd> rukuartic: I was waiting for someone to make that connection :) atlaswd -> Sir_Something-or-ther
[06:19] <cafuego> ^Dingbat^: viagra?
[06:19] <solaar> anybody here know anything about an SSL proxy?
[06:20] <^Dingbat^> :)
[06:20] <HappyFool> yeesh. feels like i called the swat team
[06:20] <ITSa341> anyone know how to get a RH driver.c file converted to ubuntu ??
[06:20] <rukuartic> metalhedd: Yeaa... Meh.
[06:20] <HappyFool> ;)
[06:20] <r0bin> O, what tangled webs we weave..
[06:20] <r0bin> Eh atlaswd?
[06:20] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Yeaaa :P But don't overabuse it. Opers don't get enough love.
[06:20] <randabis> ITSa341, again, if the driver is for RH9, you aren't going to be able to get it working in ubuntu unless there is an updated version of the driver that supports the 2.6.x kernel.
[06:21] <Madpilot> HappyFool, I've got my client set up to beep twice when someone hits the ops tell - gets my attetion. I know most of the other ops do something similar
[06:21] <rukuartic> metalhedd: He's got a different whois though
[06:21] <metalhedd> atlaswd: hows the super elite warez ftp server coming along?
[06:21] <HappyFool> Madpilot: cool. thanks :)
[06:21] <randabis> modules written for a 2.4.x series kernel aren't going to work in a distro that uses a 2.6.x kernel
[06:21] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Has anyone given you your hug today?
[06:21] <balu1> there is no rar-nonfree ;x
[06:22] <Madpilot> rukuartic, I've got a cold, so hugging me is not a good idea :P
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> balu1, yes their is
[06:22] <cafuego> balu1: 'unrar-nonfree' (breezy) or just 'unrar' (dapper)
[06:22] <rukuartic> cafuego: XD How many times are you on bash?
[06:22] <rukuartic> Madpilot: Oh dear...
[06:22] <balu1> am i typing the apt get wrong?
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> lol #saxible just got banned in ##windows
[06:22] <randabis> balu1, it's unrar-nonfree; sorry
[06:22] <cafuego> rukuartic: twice that i know of
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> by lilo lmfao.
[06:22] <balu1> sudo apt-get (name)
[06:22] <ITSa341> randabis   I got ya
[06:22] <^Dingbat^> Rukuartic -- put a body condom first if you wanna hug im
[06:22] <rukuartic> cafuego: XD Awesome.
[06:22] <r0bin> lilo fails. that is all.
[06:22] <rukuartic> ^Dingbat^: eww.
[06:22] <HappyFool> balu1: it's in the multiverse package repository -- perhaps you haven't set that up ?
[06:22] <metalhedd> wjat'
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, ?
[06:22] <balu1> i think im typing the sudo command wrong
[06:22] <balu1> i set up the multiverses
[06:22] <r0bin> Nothing.
[06:22] <metalhedd> *whats the process for upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[06:22] <rukuartic> I just see Madpilot now as a steel sentry, waiting to strike at the nubs... Thanks for destroying my image of nice admins...
[06:22] <V4Vendetta> metalhedd, don't do it
[06:23] <rukuartic> metalhedd: yeah.
[06:23] <randabis> ITSa341, it sucks, but that's all I can say :/
[06:23] <cafuego> metalhedd: /j #ubuntu+1
[06:23] <randabis> !dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[06:23] <HappyFool> balu1: ok, make sure you run 'sudo apt-get update' before trying to install.
[06:23] <r0bin> metalhedd, replace your sources.list from a breezy one to a dapper one
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> metalhedd, don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:23] <Madpilot> rukuartic, :P
[06:23] <r0bin> V4Vendetta, I just did it.
[06:23] <r0bin> Just then
[06:23] <r0bin> not five minutes ago
[06:23] <ITSa341> randabis   I hate to back down from 2.6.15
[06:23] <atlaswd> Eh i do it tommorow
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, it's not a good idea
[06:23] <HappyFool> balu1: also, try 'apt-cache show unrar-nonfree' -- that will let you test if you *have* set the repositories up correctly
[06:23] <r0bin> Worked alright for me
[06:23] <randabis> ITSa341, yeah, that'd be bad
[06:23] <metalhedd> so the only way to get dapper is to install it from cd/dvd?
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> r0bin, you'll see:-P
[06:23] <rukuartic> r0bin: Can ya wait for it to come out first :P
[06:23] <hiswacko> how do i run a text editor from a terminal?
[06:23] <rukuartic> hiswacko: VI or gedit
[06:23] <V4Vendetta> hiswacko, nano
[06:24] <metalhedd> hiswacko: nano is a good to
[06:24] <randabis> metalhedd, no, you can choose the dist-upgrade method
[06:24] <rukuartic> hiswacko: gedit is much more user friendly
[06:24] <godfathr> i added a custom launcher application to my panel to launch /usr/bin/ncftp and i have it set to launch in terminal but when i click it.. nothing appears to happen?
[06:24] <r0bin> No, I must have _everything_ at bleeding edge.
[06:24] <godfathr> it was doing this with googlizer too
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> hiswacko ... you already have nano on gnome ... nano <filename>
[06:24] <r0bin> Tis why I cvs most things.
[06:24] <randabis> please note that if you dist-upgrade at this point, openoffice is going to be broken
[06:24] <IdleOne> hiswacko>  sudo nano or gedit /path/to/file
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> gedit <filename> will aslo work.
[06:24] <r0bin> I don't use openoffice
[06:24] <ITSa341> randabis   especially since this is the second bootable kernel I have ever managed to compile
[06:24] <rukuartic> r0bin: Its really not bleeding edge... I don't think. More like dull club.
[06:24] <randabis> ITSa341, why did you compile the kernel?
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> vi <filename> if you are adventurous.
[06:24] <^Dingbat^> :)
[06:25] <ITSa341> randabis   to learn
[06:25] <r0bin> rukuartic, Dull Club more like Hull Club.
[06:25] <randabis> ITSa341, fair enough
[06:25] <rukuartic> r0bin: But wait until it comes out, it'll be the sharper than any two edged sword as far as linux goes
[06:25] <balu1> i have hte repos set up right
[06:25] <ITSa341> randabis   like I said, I am new but I like to learn
[06:25] <r0bin> Double edged swords are usually _bad_
[06:25] <godfathr> any ideas?
[06:25] <HappyFool> not if you're fighting two-headed trolls
[06:25] <rukuartic> r0bin: Ooooh but its twice the fun!
[06:25] <btdown> Anyone running Hula here?
[06:25] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Haha
[06:25] <r0bin> lol
[06:25] <cafuego> HappyFool: tasmania is back online?
[06:25] <balu1> is sudo apt-get unrar ?
[06:26] <balu1> correct?
[06:26] <HappyFool> balu1: no, 'sudo apt-get install unrar'
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: sudo apt-get install unrar ;)
[06:26] <balu1> doh .. much to learn
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: Yep. Good for the brain though
[06:26] <rukuartic> balu1: And college transcripts
[06:26] <metalhedd> i'm bored.
[06:26] <metalhedd> ask a question
[06:26] <ITSa341> randabis   needed to install sources to be able to install parallels, vmware and win4linpro anyway so wanted to do the whole thing
[06:26] <balu1> ya ;) that much is true
[06:26] <HappyFool> apt-get feels like a verb to me too ;) I often forget the install
[06:26] <r0bin> brb
[06:27] <cafuego> metalhedd: That's not a gooed enough reason for possibly trashing your system <heh>
[06:27] <rukuartic> HappyFool: Yeah... they should just call it apt
[06:27] <randabis> ITSa341, I gotcha
[06:27] <blanky> hey guys, for ati card, my driver should be ati not fglrx right
[06:27] <^Dingbat^> Question:  I'm an old-fashion C programmer and would like to write apps for Gnome and/or KDE ... is there  a good integrated IDE available?  I know there's Kdevelop for KDE ... how about Gnome?
[06:27] <ITSa341> Night everyone  I'm outta here
[06:27] <rukuartic> later ITSa341
[06:27] <HappyFool> rukuartic: if you're a command-line user, i recommend aptitude anyway
[06:27] <rukuartic> HappyFool: If I'm looking for a package... haha I'm too lazy to save time
[06:28] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: are you using the IDE to create GUIs via drag-and-drop?
[06:28] <randabis> blanky, if you want 3D acceleration, then you'll want fglrx
[06:28] <rukuartic> HappyFool: I'll look it up in synaptic, and then download/install with apt-get
[06:28] <godfathr> what's the latest version of gdesklets for ubuntu (available via apt-get
[06:28] <metalhedd> cafuego: theres not much of a system to trash really. I dont have anything installed right now, I'm running off a live cd because my motherboard wont boot from the hard drive. i only have a breezy cd right to isntall from, so I'd have to upgrade to dapper in order to try it.
[06:28] <^Dingbat^> I'd like that Gebhara
[06:28] <metalhedd> or install twice.
[06:28] <randabis> blanky, or possibly radeon
[06:28] <blanky> randabis, HOLY *** SERIOUSLY, I JUST CHOSE ATI OMG!
[06:28] <blanky> radeon i think it is right?
[06:28] <rukuartic> teh caps blanky...
[06:29] <foampeace> why are my programs all crashing all the time
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> Blanky -- running a 9600 fine here.
[06:29] <randabis> blanky, radeon is the open source ati driver that enables 3D acceleration on some cards; fglrx is the official ATI driver
[06:29] <blanky> ^Dingbat^, what's your driver name, ati, radeon, or fglrx
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> using fglrx.
[06:29] <metalhedd> foampeace: flaky hardware?
[06:29] <metalhedd> overheating?
[06:29] <^Dingbat^> foampeace -- stop spilling coffee on that mobo
[06:29] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: you might want to check out Eclipse with CDT
[06:29] <foampeace> my programs dont stay open for long then they crash
[06:29] <rukuartic> Anyone know a great/cheap/easy/readilyaccessible way to keep your CPU cool?
[06:30] <rukuartic> Aside from hosting your servers in deepspace? XD
[06:30] <gebharra> ^Dingbat^: i hear the visual editor is quite nice. I use it for java and c projects at work
[06:30] <godfathr> i just used the fglrx drivers from seveas on my 5.10 system.. upped my framerates like 200%
[06:30] <blanky> hey guys
[06:30] <godfathr> at least it did on matrix screensaver :)
[06:30] <metalhedd> man, what is XD all about? i think i've seen it 30 times since i joined the channel.
[06:30] <randabis> rukuartic, you could try one of those big box fans as a comedy option
[06:30] <blanky> if I change the driver in xorg.conf from "ati" to "fglrx", how do I make the changes take effect?
[06:30] <^Dingbat^> Tkx Gebharra -- if only I could get some good starting docs on using the dang thing ;)  Already have eclipse installed.  Using NSIS for other projects with Eclipse plugin.
[06:30] <blanky> restart my computer? or can i just restart x server or whatever
[06:30] <randabis> blanky, you must restart the xserver
[06:31] <blanky> randabis, how can i do that please
[06:31] <gebharra> blanky: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop followed by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:31] <blanky> okay thanks
[06:31] <metalhedd> dremel out a skull shape in the front of your case for extra 4iR PHL0//
[06:31] <randabis> blanky, easiest way is CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:31] <blanky> randabis, just that by itself?
[06:31] <blanky> or followed by a command
[06:31] <randabis> just press those 3 keys at once
[06:31] <rukuartic> randabis: Heh...
[06:31] <gebharra> lol
[06:32] <randabis> ha
[06:32] <randabis> didn't know he'd do it
[06:32] <randabis> right then and there
[06:32] <metalhedd> hahaha
[06:32] <ubuntu> opa
[06:32] <ubuntu> boa noite
[06:32] <metalhedd> what if he gets stuck at the prompt and doesn't know to startx?
[06:32] <randabis> X "should" restart for him though
[06:32] <metalhedd> haha
[06:32] <metalhedd> 'should'
[06:32] <IdleOne> !br
[06:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:32] <godfathr> any help on custom application launcher? not doing anything when i click it
[06:32] <balu1> how do i forcequit an application
[06:32] <randabis> metalhedd, :p
[06:32] <blanky> randabis, i frickin installed the official ati drivers and they wont work, they worked perfectly just now (reformatted)
[06:33] <rukuartic> balu1: sudo killall <procname>
[06:33] <godfathr> balu1: sudo ps aux
[06:33] <metalhedd> ubuntu is the only distro i've had that problem with actually... sometimes it just wont boot into X.
[06:33] <godfathr> sudo kill -9 pid
[06:33] <metalhedd> maybe because I use GDM and i always used to use kdm before.  gdm is more finicky or something
[06:33] <balu1> well.. do i have to go into terminal? what bout a gui popup menu
[06:33] <vladuz976> is there a repo for xgl and compiz?
[06:33] <eletido> can someone recommend me a podcast client? along the lines of Juice or iTunes???
[06:33] <randabis> metalhedd, yeah sometimes it does that for me too...I think it is gdm related
[06:33] <rukuartic> balu1: gnome-system-monitor
[06:33] <godfathr> balu1: console won't bite
[06:33] <balu1> k tnx
[06:34] <balu1> no i know it wont
[06:34] <randabis> my console bit me once
[06:34] <randabis> it hurt
[06:34] <balu1> but im tryin to learn al luser friendly aspects to get my younger sibs into linux
[06:34] <IdleOne> balu1>  if it does bite then you kick it
[06:35] <gebharra> mind just randomly sends ^Gs to keep me on my toes
[06:35] <hiswacko> rukuartic: ok, the long awaited error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10039
[06:35] <gebharra> mine*
[06:35] <metalhedd> i feel so sploiled by ubuntu sometimes.. I think everyone should have to learn linux with gentoo.
[06:35] <rukuartic> hiswacko: XD And stop me from going to sleep why won't you? :P Lemme look
[06:35] <V4Vendetta> if ./configure isn't found what packages does the person need
[06:36] <gebharra> you shouldn't wish that on anyone :)
[06:36] <balu1> anyone here ever use mupen64
[06:36] <hiswacko> rukuartic: lol, sry
[06:36] <IdleOne> build-essential
[06:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Not your fault XD
[06:36] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Um... do you have python installed? Might need that... libglade as well
[06:36] <metalhedd> XD XD XD!?!?!
[06:36] <metalhedd> grrr.
[06:37] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Thats at least what I see...
[06:37] <metalhedd> V4Vendetta: if ./configure isn't found then you dont need any packages.. you need ./configure ;)
[06:37] <randabis> metalhedd, gentoo doesn't really teach you linux
[06:37] <IdleOne> V4Vendetta>  build-essential is the package you need
[06:37] <blanky> anyone here ever use easyubuntu
[06:37] <randabis> metalhedd, it teaches you to read more than anything else
[06:37] <cafuego> !easyubuntu
[06:37] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[06:37] <jean> hi is there a command to tell what motherboard i have?
[06:38] <blanky> yeah i know that
[06:38] <V4Vendetta> IdleOne, yea it's somone else they said they have build-essential
[06:38] <blanky> but I wnat to know which driver to use cuase it's asking for it when i try to install ati drivers, i know its either ati or fglrx
[06:38] <ddonky> jean - lspci
[06:38] <metalhedd> randabis: if you actually absorb what you read then you learn more about the command line in general and the way everything works, than you would learn in years of using ubuntu
[06:38] <blanky> to what
[06:38] <IdleOne> V4Vendetta>  are they sure?
[06:38] <blanky> easyubuntu?
[06:38] <blanky> fine
[06:38] <blanky> lol
[06:38] <hiswacko> rukuartic: im pretty sure the idea of this is that it installs all that stuff
[06:38] <cafuego> blanky: fglrx if you have a newish radeon
[06:39] <blanky> hey on an +2500 ATHLON XP BARTON, what's my arch
[06:39] <rukuartic> I really need to go to sleep. Can anyone make sure hiswacko gets it installed right?
[06:39] <cafuego> blanky: i386
[06:39] <blanky> ;) thanks cafuego
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Yeah... But I think libglade is required for the program to run, and it doesn't have it
[06:39] <hiswacko> :(
[06:39] <randabis> metalhedd, probably, but I think there are better methods of learning linux than installing gentoo
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: I can stay for ajust a bit longer...
[06:39] <rukuartic> hiswacko: But from that pastebin, it looks like you're missing libglade
[06:39] <jean> ddonky: lspci how?
[06:40] <hiswacko> rukuartic: get to sleep
[06:40] <randabis> of course, I'm mad at gentoo so I'm kinda biased. I used to use it a lot
[06:40] <rukuartic> jean: run it in a terminal :)
[06:40] <ddonky> jean - open a terminal and type it
[06:40] <metalhedd> randabis: its the suffering and pain that teach you the lesson... that's why gentoo is important.
[06:40] <hiswacko> anyone here know about easyubuntu?
[06:40] <blanky> hiswacko, using it
[06:40] <^Dingbat^> I hear you can use Knoppix to help with a Gentoo install.
[06:40] <TylerWalts> if you want suffering and pain, use slackware :)
[06:40] <^Dingbat^> Knoppix hacks book.
[06:40] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Ok man... Good luck getting it to run. I'm sure it will. I think you'd still need internet access to use it though
[06:40] <ddonky> jean - bunch of stuff will scroll by, and your motherboard stuff should be inthere
[06:41] <blanky> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:41] <keith> http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot50ku.jpg
[06:41] <rukuartic> hiswacko: Good luck again mate. I'm out for the night. G'nite
[06:41] <randabis> metalhedd, hehe slackware would be equally good in that case
[06:41] <keith> oops
[06:41] <metalhedd> ^Dingbat^: you can basically install gentoo from any other live cd anywhere.
[06:41] <keith> my appologies, what i meant to paste didnt copy correctly
[06:41] <HappyFool> !tell hiswacko about easyubuntu
[06:41] <Ramnath> ok need help with this wine deal
[06:41] <keith> is there a way other than the included shell script to install UT2003?
[06:41] <cafuego> keith: I doubt it, it's propiertary.
[06:41] <hiswacko> ramnath: im having trouble running/instaling it
[06:42] <metalhedd> randabis: no way... the REAL pain is recompiling mplayer 10 times becuase you keep missing a stupid use flag.
[06:42] <blanky> cafuego, pwetty pweeze can you tell me which arch i use for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , i tried 386 and i386 and neither work
[06:42] <randabis> metalhedd, hehe true
[06:42] <blanky> remember, I have an athlon xp +2500 barton core
[06:42] <frogzoo> Ramnath: install from the stock wine repo & install winetools - easy as
[06:42] <keith> then could you help me figure out a way to get UT to install using the shell script?
[06:42] <Ramnath> i double click war3install.exe and it says error no program start menu found?
[06:42] <metalhedd> randabis: but to its credit, portage works REALLY Smoothly for such a complicated beast.
[06:42] <cafuego> metalhedd: No, the _real_ pain is recompiling it at all, just the the other millions of users, who all have _exactly_ the same config. It's a waste.
[06:43] <cafuego> blanky: Ok, k7
[06:43] <blanky> yay that's what i used last time (im stupid)
[06:43] <jonathan_> hello how are you
[06:43] <blanky> bad
[06:43] <blanky> you?
[06:43] <jonathan_> what are you up to tonight everone
[06:43] <Ramnath> stock wine repo and winetools?
[06:43] <cafuego> Using gentoo destroys the environment. And really isn't topical on #ubuntu.
[06:43] <randabis> haha
[06:43] <metalhedd> cafuego: i agree.. the compiling is what made me leave it... i couldn't waste the cpu cycles any more.  I still love emerge though
[06:44] <randabis> to me apt-get/aptitude > emerge
[06:44] <cafuego> And anyone who wants to argue on that is free to join #argue
[06:44] <metalhedd> haha.
[06:44] <metalhedd> i'm just sayin is all.
[06:44] <Ramnath> and what exactly is "stock wine repo"?
[06:44] <randabis> Ramnath, it's a conspiracy
[06:45] <jquixote> hi
[06:45] <odat> anyone know how i need to configure my fstab to have my second hard drive appear on my desktop?
[06:45] <frogzoo> !tell Ramnath about repos
[06:45] <blanky> cafuego :'( i keep getting this error
[06:45] <randabis> !fstab
[06:45] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:45] <blanky> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:45] <blanky> (sorry for pasting :P )
[06:45] <metalhedd> i dont like not being able to get the latest stuff...
[06:45] <Xenguy> .oO(and they told me there was no cabal...)
[06:45] <cafuego> blanky: Insert your Ubuntu cd
[06:45] <blanky> cafuego, do i neeeed to :(
[06:45] <cafuego> Xenguy: That was debian, surely.
[06:45] <Xenguy> cafuego: hehe
[06:45] <cafuego> blanky: Not if you delete the apt-cdrom line from osurces.list
[06:46] <jquixote> I'm having a little problem
[06:46] <frogzoo> Ramnath: if you install wine from the sourceforge repo, wine tools won't run
[06:46] <blanky> cafuego, oooo
[06:46] <jquixote> trying to install fglrx drivers
[06:46] <Ramnath> ah i see now
[06:46] <odat> randabis, what the hell is all that   i did it before by changing my fstab
[06:46] <Ramnath> so i get it from the universe and multiverse?
[06:46] <jquixote> I did the command: sudo m-a a-i fglrx
[06:47] <jquixote> and i got an error saying /usr/src/modules doesn't exist
[06:47] <blanky> cafuego, I installed a program and I got that warning, but when i go to install it again it says '0 installed, 0 upgraded' and all that stuff
[06:47] <blanky> so...should I just leave it? could it mean it worked?
[06:47] <jquixote> but I did sudo m-a prepare and sudo m-a update, so shouldn't that have been created or something
[06:48] <TylerWalts> So I need to install linux-headers, and found a bunch with apt-cache search, but how do I tell which one I should install?
[06:48] <metalhedd> mmm. thrice
[06:48] <frogzoo> Ramnath: correct
[06:49] <randabis> TylerWalts, you need the one that is for the kernel you are running
[06:49] <randabis> !kernel
[06:49] <alicia> Does anyone know the apt / sed or awk foo to show the number of packages available in the repositories?
[06:49] <TylerWalts> !kernel
[06:49] <thrice`> !+kernel
[06:50] <randabis> hmm
[06:50] <randabis> did ubotu die?
[06:50] <randabis> !fstab
[06:50] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:50] <randabis> nope
[06:50] <Xenguy> alicia: perhaps: dpkg -l |wc -l   ?
[06:50] <frogzoo> alicia: something like 'apt-cache search \* | wc'
[06:50] <randabis> guess he doesn't know !kernel
[06:50] <FlannelKing> alicia: you mean apt-cache stats?
[06:50] <jquixote> has anyone installed the fglrx drivers?
[06:50] <randabis> jquixote, yes
[06:50] <jquixote> randabis: I'm having trouble installing it
[06:50] <randabis> jquixote, but I used the one included in restricted modules
[06:50] <RemyLaptop> hi guys.
[06:50] <frogzoo> jquixote: yup - works like a charm - for best results, use the seveas repo
[06:51] <Xenguy> alicia: nope it shows the number of packages installed I think
[06:51] <randabis> os[Linux 2.6.15-18-amd64-k8 x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-32 @ 796MHz]  mem[Physical : 1443MB, 65.1% free]  disk[Total : 223.00GB, 60.00% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955]  sound[ATIIXP - ATI IXP] 
[06:51] <randabis> jesus
[06:51] <randabis> I gotta stop doing that
[06:51] <jquixote> randabis: the instructions told me to remove restricted modules
[06:51] <RemyLaptop> I'm trying to get a rio mp3 player to work with Ubuntu, anyone know how I can use it ?
[06:51] <randabis> sorry fellas
[06:51] <jquixote> randabis: I have the m300
[06:52] <jquixote> sweet box though
[06:52] <frogzoo> jquixote: read the docs - not sure fglrx supports m300
[06:52] <dabaR> RemyLaptop: plug it in
[06:52] <RemyLaptop> dabaR have done, nothing seems to happen
[06:52] <randabis> frogzoo, it supports the m200 at least
[06:52] <jquixote> frogzoo: damn
[06:52] <alicia> Xenguy: no, thats easy. I mean using apt-cache blah blah | wc -l
[06:52] <randabis> 200m
[06:53] <alicia> FlannelKing: correct
[06:53] <Derailed> hi all
[06:53] <blanky> i feel like cussing like never before
[06:53] <randabis> jquixote, well, fglrx is included in restricted modules
[06:53] <cheal> hi. I'm trying to get root using an Ubuntu LiveCD. I don't remember setting a root password, and an empty string fails. what should I try?
[06:53] <jquixote> randabis: well, my only problem is that /usr/src/modules isn't found in the install process
[06:53] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[06:53] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <FlannelKing> cheal, read that.
[06:53] <blanky> !ati
[06:53] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:53] <frogzoo> jquixote: as I say, _I'm not sure_ so check the docs - fglrx doesn't support everything ;)
[06:53] <randabis> jquixote, I didn't install fglrx that way so I don't know...
[06:53] <jquixote> randabis: are you familiar with the fglrx installation how-to?
[06:54] <alicia> Xenguy:  Kind of a hack, but just about every word in english has a vowel so this should be close: apt-cache search [aeiou]  | wc -l
[06:54] <randabis> jquixote, depends on which one you are using...there is more than one method
[06:54] <alicia> thanks guys
[06:54] <Derailed> a quick question, what's the nice easy way Gnome/GUI/Nautilus way to find out how much disk space is remaining on a device/directory (as opposed to just using 'df')
[06:54] <randabis> I've seen several how-tos on fglrx
[06:55] <Derailed> what would be *sweet* is an applet or something that'll tell you how much space you have in /home
[06:55] <carlk> RemyLaptop: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/rio and ri0500
[06:55] <randabis> the method I found that is the easiest was to use the fglrx from restricted modules
[06:55] <jquixote> randabis: are you telling me that from dapper, all I have to do to is pretty much dpkg -i *fglrx* or whatever?
[06:55] <thrice`> Derailed, right click and hit properties?
[06:55] <blanky> Taken from a wiki page "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver"
[06:55] <cheal> FlannelKing: hum, I don't feel like learning sudo, but I haven't set *any* password anyway
[06:55] <carlk> RemyLaptop: er, rio500
[06:55] <blanky> would that be the same as editing xorg.conf and putting ati as the driver?
[06:55] <blanky> cafuego?
[06:55] <FlannelKing> cheal: you set your user password, correct? sudo is just like su.
[06:55] <dabaR> cheal: use "sudo ls" and use your password.
[06:55] <Toma-> Derailed: it automatically tells you when you dont select anything in nautilus
[06:55] <randabis> jquixote, pretty much...a little more to it than that, but not much more
[06:56] <Xenguy> alicia: looks plausible (but there has to be a more elegant solution surely :-)
[06:56] <blanky> cafugo yoohoo buddy! please help :(
[06:56] <RemyLaptop> carlk, thanks, will check it out!
[06:56] <cheal> FlannelKing/dabaR: I don't remember setting *any* password
[06:56] <Derailed> Toma-:  it does indeed, thanks :-)
[06:56] <alicia> Xenguy: I've seen it before... but can't remember it meh
[06:56] <carlk> RemyLaptop: yer welcome
[06:56] <blanky> is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver" the same as editing xorg.conf and adding "ati" as the driver or whatever
[06:56] <FlannelKing> cheal: so, is this a liveCD? or what
[06:56] <jquixote> will I have to have /usr/src/modules present? and if not, how do I make that show up? I installed build essentials
[06:56] <gebharra> alicia: do you want to know the number of packages installed, or available?
[06:56] <Derailed> thrice`:  that mostly works, except it's hard to click 'nowhere' when you're in list view
[06:56] <fridge> Hi, I am converting a few systems to Ubuntu from RedHat -- is there an equivalent tool to RedHat's 'chkconfig'? If so, what is the standard cmd line tool on Ubuntu for managing init scripts?
[06:56] <cheal> FlannelKing: yes, I'm trying to use it as a rescue CD
[06:57] <alicia> gebharra: available. Hence using apt-cache. Installed is easy with dpkg -l | wc -l
[06:57] <thrice`> Derailed, learn to use command, tis the linux way :)
[06:57] <FlannelKing> cheal: (you should've said so): ubuntu is the user, no password.
[06:57] <gebharra> i see.
[06:57] <TylerWalts> How do I install the kernel source?
[06:57] <gebharra> that would still give you the wrong answer tho :)
[06:57] <metalhedd> how are the dapper gui admin tools shaping up as compared to ubuntu's?
[06:57] <jquixote> I just had a great idea
[06:57] <IdleOne> can easyubuntu bork my system?
[06:57] <cheal> FlannelKing: he... (you should probably read what people say instead)
[06:57] <Derailed> thrice`:  LOL :-) I been command-line-boy since '98, but I'm trying to teach my dad how to move away from Windows XP
[06:57] <metalhedd> err. kubuntu's gui admin tools
[06:58] <alicia> fridge: update-rc.d
[06:58] <Toma-> IdleOne: not really....
[06:58] <jquixote> for anyone here that spends time helping people here, I just had a great idea
[06:58] <IdleOne> Toma->  ok then Ill give it a shot
[06:58] <FlannelKing> cheal: ah, youre right.  sorry, doing a few things at once.
[06:58] <Derailed> thrice`:   With ubuntu, I have a real chance if it being successful, but I want everything to be as easy as possible
[06:58] <blanky> cafuego, !!! you there
[06:58] <alicia> fridge: 'chkconfig --del service' is 'update-rc.d -f service remove'
[06:58] <thrice`> Derailed, ah; I gotcha
[06:58] <jquixote> integrate paypal into irc and each user can have a tip jar.. and if the user feels helped, they can tip you!
[06:58] <RemyLaptop> carlk, do you know how I can check what port it is on ?
[06:59] <cheal> FlannelKing: thanks, I set root password and succeeded to login
[06:59] <thrice`> Derailed, wish I could help more; but most of my file management is done in console :|
[06:59] <Toma-> jquixote: call me crazy, but id rather go un-rewarded
[06:59] <cafuego> blanky: no, I ran away
[07:00] <blanky> YAY
[07:00] <Derailed> thrice`:   Nope that's plenty of help :-) maybe I'll start looking at the gnome applet coding API... I'm surprised there isn't just a quick diskfree applet
[07:00] <fridge> alicia: Oh, thank you ever so much! It should be quite trivial for me to port my cfengine scripts across to Ubuntu now :D
[07:00] <jquixote> Toma-: that's noble, but imagine the dynamics.. you'd have more people trying to help people, opening PMs etc
[07:00] <Ramnath> ...
[07:00] <blanky> hey cafuego, is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver" the same as making ati for the driver in xorg.conf cuase i hate xorg-setup thingy
[07:00] <alicia> fridge: cfengine is awesome :)
[07:00] <Toma-> jquixote: PM's are a pain in the backside.
[07:00] <Ramnath> i found wine in the cross platform universe
[07:00] <Ramnath> is that the one?
[07:01] <alicia> fridge: man update-rc.d should totally do the trick for you :) and you're welcome
[07:01] <blanky> my buddy cafuego has left me :'()
[07:01] <frogzoo> Ramnath: that's fine
[07:01] <jquixote> gosh, now I wish I didn't remove restricted modules
[07:01] <RemyLaptop> Question: How can I check what port my mp3 player is on when I plug it into the USB ?
[07:01] <randabis> jquixote, you can reinstall them
[07:01] <jquixote> now lets see if a newbie can undo his felanderings
[07:02] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: lsusb will have some info on that
[07:02] <metalhedd> someone ask a question. i'm bored again
[07:02] <jquixote> randabis: ok.. this howto dug pretty deep, I'll let you know what happens
[07:02] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[07:02] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:02] <alicia> metalhedd: the answer to life and the universe?
[07:02] <Toma-> 42
[07:02] <carlk> RemyLaptop: no clue - http://idoru.world.co.uk/sba/  <-shocking dmca crud about mp3 player drivers
[07:02] <alicia> Toma-: You guys rock
[07:03] <Toma-> :P~
[07:03] <metalhedd> alicia: if I knew that, Id have someting more interesting to do than offer free tech support. :)
[07:03] <Ramnath> winetools has to be downloaded right?
[07:03] <blanky> wth all of a sudden i forgot where xorg.conf was
[07:03] <blanky> etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:03] <alicia> metalhedd: Like become a stock tycoon and do a hostile takeover of M$
[07:03] <Toma-> metalhedd: i got bored so i downloaded looking glass live cd
[07:03] <Half-Left> CarlFK, and so you should :-)
[07:03] <metalhedd> alicia: precisely.
[07:03] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10040
[07:03] <RemyLaptop> any idea what that means ?
[07:04] <RemyLaptop> which is the "port" ?
[07:04] <odat> anyone know how to have your second drive show up on your desktop?
[07:04] <blanky> guys, where can I find xorg.conf again
[07:04] <blanky> /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <vladuz976> when is dapper going to be released? is flight 5 usuable?
[07:04] <alicia> metalhedd: And my next step would be to hire Eric Raymond as the CEO of M$ and let him do whatever he wanted
[07:04] <metalhedd> Toma-: yeah, i'm stuck running from a liveCD right now, which means I cant even eject it to burn a new cd... i'm pretty limited in my ability to entertain myself. and I'm real good at gnometris
[07:04] <IdleOne> !tell odat  about mount
[07:04] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: try "lsusb -vv" more or less v's give you more info
[07:04] <thrice`> blanky, /etc/X11 shoudl contain it; use "locate" in future
[07:04] <blanky> *panic* IT'S NOT THERE!?
[07:04] <Toma-> i prefer SameGnome :D
[07:04] <metalhedd> alicia: i got your back on that.
[07:04] <osz> hi
[07:04] <blanky> nevermind
[07:05] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: on personal boxes, yeah. fairy stable for common things on common hardware.  like all betas.
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> Got a problem... I installed breezy but it wont enter in the Graphic mode
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> =(
[07:05] <metalhedd> i just wanted to listen to thrice and rhythmbox has been 'loading songs' for like... ever.
[07:05] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[07:05] <metalhedd> ?
[07:05] <Xenguy> alicia: I think this works...
[07:05] <osz> hi all im quite new to ubuntu and it seems that it doesnt come with any compilers ?
[07:05] <Xenguy> alicia: grep ^Package /var/lib/dpkg/available |wc -l
[07:05] <Ropechoborra> metalhedd is that the same as startx ?
[07:05] <metalhedd> err gdm not xmd
[07:06] <alicia> osz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:06] <Ramnath> ropechoborra: configure the xserver
[07:06] <jquixote>  randabis: how does sudo apt-get -i linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) look?
[07:06] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: is it pretty good at getting the monitor settings for xorg. i remember 5.04 always got that wrong. somehow with fedora i never had to mess with that
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> Ramnath how ?
[07:06] <Xenguy> alicia: assuming that is what you were asking about ;-)
[07:06] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: not really... it will load the graphical login manager which in turn runs an x session
[07:06] <osz> and thx xenguy 4 the monitor thingy it works well
[07:06] <nuts> finally got linux to install
[07:06] <odat> IdleOne, i want it visible on the desktop
[07:06] <BlingFree> lil help needed if possible...seems ubuntu config'd my onboard vid diver instead of my PCI vid card....first question how can i make Ubuntu go into "safe mode" to edit xorg.conf?
[07:06] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: no idea.  I don't have a GUI on mine.
[07:06] <alicia> Xenguy: I know there are more than 15000 packages in main + multiverse + universe. That can't be correct?
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> metalhedd but why it doesnt do it at the start like it should
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> ?
[07:06] <Ramnath> it's a command
[07:06] <nuts> this is cool they have irc install
[07:06] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: wow, what do you use it for?
[07:06] <osz> alicia: can  u choose wat u get thru apt ?
[07:06] <IdleOne> odat>  want what visible?
[07:07] <IdleOne> ohh
[07:07] <jquixote> randabi: s/-i/install
[07:07] <metalhedd> Ropechoborra: like Ramnath said. x or gdm isn't configured properly.  if that command fails it will give you more info
[07:07] <Xenguy> alicia: I get 17815 as output; what do you get?
[07:07] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: ssh in and do everything.  No sound, no X.  I have no problems ;)  (those seem to be the biggest problems in this channel, heh)
[07:07] <nuts> i was wonder when i installed ubuntu did I erase windows xp
[07:07] <IdleOne> can someone tell odat  how to have an icon that points to a mounted drive
[07:07] <alicia> Xenguy: 15000. With the stock sources.list + universe / multiverse AND the wine repositories from wine.sf.net
[07:07] <FlannelKing> nuts: that depends on how you installed it.
[07:08] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[07:08] <Xenguy> osz: glad to hear it (can't quite remember what the issue was tho :-)
[07:08] <metalhedd> nuts: no its still there.
[07:08] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: i guess that's true
[07:08] <metalhedd> sometimes i forget.
[07:08] <Ropechoborra> So...... i should try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm" and if it dont work.. i return here with what showed up?
[07:08] <Xenguy> alicia: dunno about your setup, but my number sounds closer
[07:08] <nuts> metalhedd when i restart it goes to linux. I want something that shows which on i want to should
[07:09] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: so, I suppose I'm not the most relevant guy to ask.  But, from what Ive heard, it's pretty stable, but dont use it for mission critical stuff (and if you find a bug, good job, report it and help us out)
[07:09] <osz> xenguy: i cldnt get the res over 640x480 abt 4 hrs ago
[07:09] <metalhedd> nuts: that is, you COULD have installed it over top of windows, but i think by default it installs along side it.
[07:09] <osz> thx
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> Toma- still not sure which is the "Port"
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/rio
[07:09] <nuts> ok
[07:09] <carlk> RemyLaptop: have you tried it with the default ?
[07:09] <metalhedd> nuts: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> carlk, yup
[07:09] <Xenguy> osz: oh yeah, now I remember - excellent :-)
[07:09] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: its not going to matter... tried mounting /dev/sda1 ?
[07:09] <nuts> i am not worry becuase I didnt have anything when I had windows that was important
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> Toma is that fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> I've tried that, doesn't work
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> nothing happsn
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> *happens
[07:10] <Toma-> i c
[07:10] <carlk> RemyLaptop: on fdisk - sudo fdisk -l
[07:10] <thrice`> dmesg | tail
[07:10] <alicia> Xenguy: I saw it in #ubuntu-devel ~5 months ago and it was something like 18,000+. More have been added since then so I would assume it is more than the number you gave
[07:10] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: dmesg will give you more info on what device the player is linked to
[07:10] <jquixote> had anyone ever done sudo aticonfig --initial ??
[07:10] <Xenguy> alicia: /me shrugs
[07:10] <vladuz976> i have arch linux installed right now on one big "/" partition, what is the best way of getting dapper for a test drive other than live cd. i don't wanna necessarily lose archlinux right now.
[07:10] <gebharra> apt-cache search .* | wc -l ?
[07:10] <carlk> alicia: what is 18,000?
[07:11] <gebharra> that's different than the # reported by synaptic tho for listed packages
[07:11] <Ramnath> How do i get the winetools installed correctly?
[07:11] <gebharra> has anyone tried building wine from source for x86_64?
[07:11] <IdleOne> !wine
[07:11] <alicia> gebharra: .* /* etc does not work in apt
[07:11] <metalhedd> nuts: in ubuntu's system->administration menu theres a section for disk partitions.. see if your windows partition is still intact..  if so, you can give it a mount point and access the partition directly.
[07:11] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10042
[07:11] <RemyLaptop> that's the information in dmesg
[07:11] <gebharra> alicia: it does for me
[07:11] <IdleOne> !wine
[07:12] <RemyLaptop> not sure what to do with that information
[07:12] <frogzoo> Ramnath: download - unpack & 'sudo ./install'
[07:12] <gebharra> gebharra@lenin:/var/cache/apt$ apt-cache search .* | wc -l
[07:12] <gebharra> 18657
[07:12] <randabis> gebharra, I don't think you can build wine from source in 64bit
[07:12] <gebharra> apt-cache search [a-zA-Z0-9]  --names-only | wc -l
[07:12] <gebharra> 18657
[07:12] <vladuz976> FlannelKing: you think i can repartion my current root directory during dapper install?
[07:12] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: can you gimme all of those 20 lines tou tail'ed?
[07:12] <randabis> at least, that's what I've heard
[07:13] <RemyLaptop> Toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10043
[07:13] <FlannelKing> vladuz976: no idea.  Probably.  You could also repartition beforehand.
[07:13] <carlk> vladuz976: yes
[07:13] <vladuz976> carlk: yes, to during install?
[07:13] <vladuz976> carlk: how safe is that?
[07:13] <jquixote> randabis: I did sudo aticonfig --initial and I see it updated my xorg.conf
[07:13] <nuts> metalhedd: it says partition 1 and free space
[07:13] <metalhedd> nuts: yeah windows is gone
[07:13] <metalhedd> :)
[07:14] <carlk> the ubuntu installer lets you create/remove and even resize partitions - very well tested, so very safe
[07:14] <nuts> oh well its not a big deal
[07:14] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: weird, its not making a device node?
[07:14] <nuts> i had nothing that i really needed to save
[07:14] <RemyLaptop> Toma- How would I check that ?
[07:14] <jquixote> randabis: can you look at my xorg.conf in #pastebin?
[07:14] <frogzoo> vladuz976: why not shrink your / partition & create new partition after it, & install dapper there?
[07:14] <metalhedd> nuts: what carlk just said would work for you as well, to install windows again beside linux
[07:14] <vladuz976> frogzoo: yeah, maybe good idea
[07:15] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: are there any /dev/sd* devices?
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> how do I check ?
[07:15] <vladuz976> frogzoo: what's a good repartioning program?
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> RemyLaptop  = noobie :)
[07:15] <jquixote> vladuz976: parted
[07:15] <frogzoo> vladuz976: parted, qtparted, gparted - but you'll need to run it from the live cd
[07:15] <carlk> btw - if you resize an NTFS partition, give it 10 min or so.  it doesn't report any progress, but you will see the HD light blinking
[07:15] <jquixote> qtparted
[07:15] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: ls /dev/sd*
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> nope
[07:16] <RemyLaptop> nothing there
[07:16] <carlk> I was tempted to reboot, which I am sure whoule have been bad
[07:16] <nuts> thanks for the help
[07:16] <nuts> i will reinstall windows later
[07:16] <metalhedd> nuts: n/p
[07:16] <Ramnath> ok this bastard keeps giving me a command not found error
[07:16] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: possible a hotplug/udev problem...
[07:16] <Ramnath>  sudo ./install winetools-0.9jo-III
[07:16] <Ramnath> is it like that?
[07:16] <vladuz976> frogzoo: maybe i'll put it on a different drive better
[07:16] <jquixote> can someone look at my xorg.conf at #pastebin? I think its fishy
[07:17] <liable> Ramnath: what did you expect that to do?
[07:17] <carlk> RemyLaptop: Toma-, is there anything that says it should look like a drive?
[07:17] <BlingFree> lil help needed if possible...seems ubuntu config'd my onboard vid diver instead of my PCI vid card....first question how can i make Ubuntu go into "safe mode" to edit xorg.conf?
[07:17] <Ramnath> something
[07:17] <Toma-> carlk: hu?
[07:17] <jquixote> (I have two ati devices, both on pci:1,0,0
[07:17] <jquixote> )
[07:17] <metalhedd> TOP TEN CONFIG FILES TO ALWAYS ALWAYS BACK UP?
[07:17] <frogzoo> jquixote: post the pastebin url
[07:17] <metalhedd> xorg.conf
[07:18] <jquixote> frogzoo: I'm in the #pastebin channel
[07:18] <liable> the whole of /etc..
[07:18] <jquixote> I thought you guys used that
[07:18] <gebharra> oo oo .vimrc
[07:18] <Toma-> menu.lst
[07:18] <frogzoo> !tell jquixote about pastebin
[07:19] <RemyLaptop> carlk, dunno
[07:19] <notos> i need help im trying to install ubuntu breeze but halts on network Configuration...
[07:19] <metalhedd> notos: like it freezes?
[07:19] <vladuz976> anybody know if there are iso for i686 or k7?
[07:19] <frogzoo> Ramnath: no - cd into winetoolg-... & run the install script
[07:19] <RemyLaptop> carlk, the software says it might need a different port than the default, but I can't find what port it's assigned to.
[07:19] <notos> yep
[07:19] <notos> in a  blue screen
[07:19] <jquixote> frogzoo, randabi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10044
[07:20] <metalhedd> notos: freaky... what kind of network adapter do you ahve?
[07:20] <osz> ok guys thx for all ur help catchya :)
[07:20] <carlk> RemyLaptop: looks like the port is fine: "USB Rio found at address 3"
[07:20] <osz> im goin 2 have to learn bit more abt apt
[07:20] <jquixote> frogzoo: it looks like that after I did sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:20] <notos> D-Link RTL8139
[07:20] <jquixote> frogzoo: you want me to paste the whole thing?
[07:21] <RemyLaptop> ok, gotta go fellas, will try later.
[07:21] <notos> and an onboard Davicom Eth...
[07:21] <vladuz976> the 64 bit edition of ubuntu, does it use 64 bit packages only?
[07:21] <frogzoo> jquixote: not necessary - you need to specify EITHER fglrx OR ati - not both
[07:21] <notos> Speed Stream 5200 router
[07:21] <metalhedd> try disabling the onboard or removing the card.
[07:21] <jquixote> frogzoo: thought so
[07:21] <metalhedd> one of them is garbage
[07:21] <frogzoo> vladuz976: 64bit is a pita - best not go there
[07:21] <jquixote> frogzoo: so just comment out the old (upper) one?
[07:22] <RemyLaptop> carlk the software for it expects the address to be a hex address
[07:22] <frogzoo> jquixote: yes - the whole device section
[07:22] <vladuz976> frogzoo: yeah that's what i am wondering about, i wanna get a laptop with amd turion 64, but better to stick to k7 no?
[07:22] <RemyLaptop> like 0x278
[07:22] <jquixote> frogzoo: rgr
[07:22] <notos> :O i will try that thankyou for the idea
[07:22] <metalhedd> notos: no problem :)
[07:22] <frogzoo> vladuz976: yes indeedy
[07:23] <Toma-> 686 kernels run fine on k8 systems
[07:23] <Half-Left> vladuz976, that processor will be fine in the 32bit version
[07:24] <Ramnath> cd into winetoolg...? what does that mean?
[07:24] <carlk> RemyLaptop: but "USB Rio found at address 3" - I don't thnk it would print that if it wasn't the right address
[07:24] <vladuz976> Half-Left: it's a crappy processor though, isn't it?
[07:24] <jquixote> frogzoo: ok, the deed is done
[07:24] <j-linux> I have a thinkpad t43.  I could not make a dual boot out of it (long story) so I bought another hard drive and an ultrabay adapter.  So I have two hard drives in my laptop.  I moved the ubuntu one to the ultrabay slot, and the windows in the original slot.  Now when I try to boot ubuntu it says something like "sda1 not found" ?  Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:24] <Half-Left> vladuz976, why would it be?
[07:24] <RemyLaptop> carlk, that address doesn't tell me anything though...
[07:24] <jquixote> frogzoo: ok, I have to reboot now.. cross your fingers
[07:25] <vladuz976> Half-Left: i dunno, that's just what i heard from some people, but that's all i can afford
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> the format for the command is "rio -p 0x247 -d" where -p 0x247 is the address of the RIO
[07:25] <frogzoo> jquixote: gl :)
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> I've tried all variations of '3', and still nothing
[07:25] <Half-Left> vladuz976, sound good to me
[07:25] <frogzoo> Ramnath: cd winetools-0.9jo-III; sudo ./install
[07:25] <blanky> man gnome lags a lot for me, when i move windows around
[07:26] <Half-Left> vladuz976, look on tomshardware.com and look for a review
[07:26] <nuts> with linux do i still need a firewall
[07:26] <carlk> RemyLaptop: im saying you don't need to know anything about the address
[07:26] <vladuz976> Half-Left: thanks
[07:26] <nuts> if so can i use my current firewall from norton
[07:26] <carlk> RemyLaptop: but thats just a guess
[07:26] <nuts> or zonealarm
[07:27] <carlk> nuts: yes.  put it near your door to distract criminals
[07:27] <frogzoo> nuts: never a bad idea
[07:27] <Half-Left> vladuz976, A athlon64 will fly in a 32bit distro so dont worry about it
[07:27] <volCOM_b0i> lol
[07:27] <ajopaul> haha
[07:27] <gebharra> nuts: take a look at the firestarter package
[07:27] <vladuz976> Half-Left: yeah but that's an athlon, i am talking about a turion
[07:28] <metalhedd> nuts: just a bit of warning. forget everything you know about software firewalls. they're NOTHING like they are in windows.
[07:28] <nuts> gebharra: where is the firestarter package
[07:28] <Half-Left> vladuz976, I assume thats the mobile version by it's name
[07:29] <vladuz976> Half-Left: if that's the only differnce, then i guess there's no worries, i thought it's like the celeron of the intels
[07:29] <gebharra> nuts: universe
[07:29] <Half-Left> vladuz976, no, I dont think so somehow, AMD dont do things like that :-)
[07:30] <BlingFree> ok... what program do i use in rescue mode to edit xorg.conf?
[07:30] <ajopaul> vim
[07:30] <alicia> Xenguy, gebharra: I figured it out: apt-cache stats | grep Normal | awk '{print $3}'
[07:30] <frogzoo> BlingFree: sudo gedit
[07:30] <volCOM_b0i> vi
[07:31] <BlingFree> thank you
[07:31] <frogzoo> emacs :p
[07:31] <Half-Left> vladuz976, i'm pretty sure it would piss my athlonxp 2600+ and my system is fast so
[07:31] <nuts> how to get to desktop faster by mininzing the other stuff. In windows it was windows +D
[07:32] <elmo909> any idea why the ubuntu live cd is locking up when its configuring hardware (it locks up right after it determines the keyboard type)
[07:32] <ajopaul> depends upon ur desktop , guess theres one in Gnome.
[07:32] <thewayofzen> keyboard shortcut question:     Eject is   0xcc ..    What keys are those?
[07:32] <vladuz976> Half-Left: i guess it'll be ok too, i was just worried coz i do wanna compile large stuff from time to time and on a laptop i didn't know how it will be
[07:32] <gebharra> nuts: Ctrl-Alt-D
[07:32] <volCOM_b0i> I have mobile sempron 3000
[07:32] <volCOM_b0i> it is fine
[07:32] <nuts> ok thanks
[07:33] <nuts> guess i have to reinstall windows xp today becuase now i find out that i cant play online poke
[07:33] <nuts> poker
[07:33] <volCOM_b0i> You have an Ati card?
[07:33] <BlingFree> to save on time... is it possible for me to edit ubuntu's xorg.conf from this Knoppix live cd?
[07:33] <gebharra> nuts: does it use activex?
[07:33] <metalhedd> nuts, look into wine, or maybe even vmware
[07:34] <metalhedd> mmmm vmware
[07:34] <gebharra> i thought there was a company that made an activex shim layer for linux
[07:34] <metalhedd> BlingFree: sure. you'll have to boot back to test it though
[07:34] <V4Vendetta> !dma
[07:34] <elmo909> any ideas anyone?
[07:34] <carlk> nuts: i bet you can play online poker
[07:34] <nuts> it a exe file
[07:34] <BlingFree> yeah thats cool
[07:34] <metalhedd> nuts: wine might run it
[07:34] <carlk> nuts: just not that pokler
[07:34] <BlingFree> so how do i gain write privelige?
[07:35] <volCOM_b0i> sudo
[07:35] <Half-Left> vladuz976, you'll be fine
[07:35] <carlk> nuts - what is the URL of the poker site?
[07:35] <metalhedd> BlingFree: sudo or just su.
[07:35] <BlingFree> ok i'll try
[07:35] <nuts> fulltiltpoker.com
[07:35] <metalhedd> i dunno how knoppix does that stuff
[07:35] <volCOM_b0i> make a backup Bling :)
[07:35] <elmo909> any idea why the ubuntu live cd is locking up when its configuring hardware (it locks up right after it determines the keyboard type)
[07:35] <tanq> ok.. ubuntu is apparently so simple it's hard.
[07:36] <elmo909> bad dvd?
[07:36] <Auci> Hello ppl
[07:36] <metalhedd> elmo909: possibly.
[07:36] <metalhedd> i had one
[07:36] <nuts> metalhedd: what is wine or where to find it
[07:36] <metalhedd> synaptic is your best friend for finding software.
[07:36] <tanq> i had my laptop dual boot with another linux distro.  when I went to install ubunti I selected to format the partition,
[07:36] <gebharra> synaptic has helped me through some rough times
[07:36] <tanq> but when it gets tot he installer it says something about no root
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[07:37] <tanq> so its like I can't say that /dev/hda4 is /
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> add those lines to your Repo
[07:37] <metalhedd> tanq: you have to choose to manually edit the partitions and assign the root mouuntpoint manually to that partition
[07:37] <j-linux> Anyone have any idea how to set up hard drives in Ubuntu so that I can move locations of the hard drive?  For example, from the regular location to an "ultrabay" on a thinkpad.  After I moved the drive to a different position it tells me something like 'sda1 cant be found'.
[07:37] <gebharra> j-linux: labels
[07:37] <tanq> metalhedd: where does it let you assign / to the partition? I didn't see the option.. like i said its so simple its hard
[07:37] <Auci> Can I paste an error that im getting? when I click the update icon i get an error.
[07:37] <roaet> I would like to download all of the files and links from a site (make a local mirror). i know I can do it with wget, but how?
[07:38] <j-linux> gebharra: what is a label?
[07:38] <metalhedd> tanq: i dont remember exactly, but its an option when you select the partition you want to modify.
[07:38] <cafuego> j-linux: You cna do cool stuff with udev; have it identify the drive and create say /dev/ultrabay for a specific module.
[07:38] <Auci> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directo
[07:38] <tanq> metalhedd: ahh i see it..
[07:38] <ajopaul>  metalhedd: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:38] <metalhedd> tanq might not have an obvious name, maybe 'target' or something
[07:38] <V4Vendetta> on the wiki, it says for dma, you need to set it each time the computer boots up, that's wrong isn't it ..
[07:38] <tanq> i didnt select mount point because i thought it meant the partition to mount
[07:38] <j-linux> cafuego: is that something that has to be done from Ubuntu?  I can't boot it
[07:38] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: yep
[07:39] <tanq> it shouldnt default to the freaking partition name
[07:39] <V4Vendetta> Toma-, why does it say that then
[07:39] <cyphase> YEAA!!!
[07:39] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: someone doesnt know what theyre talking about?
[07:39] <cyphase> Flight 5 fixed the Netgear MA111 on ndiswrapper
[07:39] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: see /etc/hdparm.conf for more details
[07:39] <jquixote> frogzoo: well, that didn't work :)
[07:39] <jquixote> !pastebin
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:39] <metalhedd> tanq: it tries to mount every partition that it finds.
[07:39] <V4Vendetta> Toma-, i got dma on that's all i need to know :-p
[07:39] <volCOM_b0i> add this to hdparm.conf
[07:40] <Toma-> V4Vendetta: ok then
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> /dev/hdc {
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> dma = on
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> }
[07:40] <Auci> How can i fix this? W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directo
[07:40] <jquixote> it said could find fglrx driver
[07:40] <Half-Left> vladuz976,  I cannot find a Turon64 review anywhere on tomshardware :-o
[07:40] <metalhedd> Auci: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the lines for the cdrom
[07:40] <jquixote> and when doing fglrxinfo it errored saying couldn't fine screen 0
[07:40] <cafuego> Auci: Insert yout breezy cd
[07:40] <metalhedd> Auci: or better yet, comment them out
[07:41] <Auci> the cd is inserted
[07:41] <blanky> WOOO SUCCESS
[07:41] <blanky> GOT ATI DRIVERS TO WORK, TOOK ME TWO HOURS, WOO!
[07:41] <randabis> yay
[07:41] <volCOM_b0i> blanky, ati or fglrx?
[07:41] <Half-Left> ATI suck thats why
[07:41] <blanky> uh, let me see
[07:41] <randabis> now give yourself a gold star
[07:42] <V4Vendetta> Half-Left, ati is fine..
[07:42] <j-linux> blanky: good work... I gave up on it... Every time I've tried, my whole system goes down.
[07:42] <blanky> Half-Left, no last time I got them to work instantly
[07:42] <blanky> no no no guys!
[07:42] <blanky> every other time, my drivers work instnatly, i love ati
[07:42] <blanky> but this time i was using the official company drivers
[07:42] <jquixote> blanky: how'd you do it?
[07:42] <blanky> (latest ones)
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> J-linux, when you use ATI you have to add Option = "noaccel" to xorg.conf
[07:42] <blanky> watch, i'll show you!
[07:42] <blanky> *gasp*
[07:42] <metalhedd> Auci: use synaptic, settings -> repositories remove the cd entries and add some good ones.
[07:42] <jquixote> I'm trying to get glrxf to work
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> for newer cards
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> and use fglrx
[07:42] <metalhedd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:43] <blanky> i did exactly what this says ! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:43] <blanky> :D :D :D
[07:43] <Auci> Ill try it , tanks for your ime
[07:43] <j-linux> volCOM_b0o: thanks, I'll try it once I can get my sytem back online this time :S
[07:43] <blanky> volCOM_b0i, noaccel? what's that do?
[07:43] <blanky> might it be the solution to my laggy windows?
[07:43] <blanky> !newfirefox
[07:43] <ubotu> blanky: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:43] <blanky> !firefox
[07:43] <volCOM_b0i> ati's drivers don't support 3d accel on newer cards
[07:44] <blanky> eh? yeah they do!
[07:44] <jquixote> blanky: that gave me problems at "sudo m-a a-i fglrx" .. no /usr/src/modules directory
[07:44] <blanky> did you install the linux headers thingies
[07:44] <blanky> what's your processor
[07:44] <metalhedd> bedtime
[07:44] <nuts> i download wine and when i clicked on it, it says could not open "win_0.9.9-winehq1_i386.deb"
[07:44] <tkup> is it possible to mount an NFS share from OSX? it's being exported from a linux box.
[07:44] <blanky> jquixote, nevermind you dont need that
[07:44] <volCOM_b0i> at least that is how it is on my Ati 200m
[07:44] <salah> Hi, I am using Hp laptop. How can I setup my wirless internet?
[07:45] <jquixote> blanky: in the directions it said to install build-essentials, which should have all that
[07:45] <blanky> nuts, you dont install it that way, you click ubuntu and do what it says (add the wine repository)
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> salah, Ndiswrapper
[07:45] <blanky> jquixote, yeah, you mean this right
[07:45] <blanky> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[07:45] <blanky> that?
[07:45] <blanky> you did that right
[07:45] <salah> How can I do it Please help me
[07:45] <jquixote> blanky: right
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> apt-get ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <blanky> jquixote, and you have the ati driver right
[07:45] <jquixote> I followed the instructions to a T on a fresh dapper install
[07:45] <volCOM_b0i> you need your windows drivers, do you have them on disk?
[07:45] <ppd> has nobody managed to get overlay mode working with his/her tv card?
[07:46] <blanky> jquixote, that must be it, you're on dapper
[07:46] <blanky> im on breezy
[07:46] <jquixote> bah
[07:46] <jquixote> yea
[07:46] <blanky> jquixote, join #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <blanky> they should be able to know
[07:46] <nuts> wow linux is so complicated
[07:46] <blanky> *they should know
[07:46] <jquixote> ah
[07:46] <blanky> nuts, nah it's not
[07:47] <volCOM_b0i> salah, here is a link to a howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:47] <nuts> blanky: when you says click on ubuntu I dont know what you mean
[07:47] <zack> Im wondering how to edit " bootstring " what file and were is it
[07:47] <blanky> nuts, www.winehq.org , click download, and click ubuntu
[07:48] <Half-Left> nuts, do you even know how to install a deb?
[07:48] <devios> how do I mount hda1 inside of gnome...  (ntfs)
[07:48] <blanky> nuts, the deb is for debian, but you can try and install it with dpkg -i (namehere)
[07:48] <jquixote> is frogzoo around?
[07:49] <ajopaul> nuts: try sudo apt-get install wine in your terminal
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> add the wine repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[07:49] <volCOM_b0i> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[07:49] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[07:49] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:49] <Half-Left> or do it in synaptic
[07:50] <Mosi> 'evening everyone
[07:50] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, synaptic is probably easier; learn to use vi though, it will save your life one day!
[07:50] <Auci> Hello, now Im getting this error when i try to update.E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[07:51] <Mosi> vi for the win
[07:51] <tkup> I get this error when I try to mount an nfs share
[07:51] <tkup> unknown special file or file system.
[07:51] <Half-Left> nano is easier
[07:52] <Mosi> but vi is superior :P
[07:52] <blanky> VIM FOR THE WIN
[07:52] <shreevatsa> ed ! ed! the standard!
[07:52] <Half-Left> yer but a arse for noobs
[07:52] <Mosi> doesn't mean it isn't best :P
[07:52] <Mosi> but  yes, that is true
[07:52] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, vi is one of those things you hate until you sit down and learn it. imo
[07:52] <blanky> volCOM_b0i, seriously man
[07:52] <blanky> I learned it and wow
[07:53] <Ramnath> i still don't see why linux is that much better than microsoft
[07:53] <shreevatsa> emacs isn't *that* slow, really...
[07:53] <j-linux> Someone mentioned that I might be able to fix my hard drive problem with "labels" (my hard drive was moved to a different slot -- a thinkpad ultrabay and now won't boot becuase it says 'cant find sda1' or something similar).   I can boot into a # prompt, but it's not my regular directory.  Can it be fixed from there?  I can't boot into the regular Ubuntu screens.
[07:53] <Ramnath> it's about the same really
[07:53] <Half-Left> vi is not clear at all when doing commands like saving and quiting
[07:53] <Mosi> ok guys, this should be easy. why does it tell me i don't have glib 2.0 installed when i try to compile swfdec for flash on PPC? Assuming i really don't have it, where do i get it? it's not in the repos...
[07:53] <TylerWalts> there is also gvim for graphical
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Ramnath: Because it was free, shipped too my door, and doesn't crash on me?
[07:53] <Half-Left> :write
[07:53] <blanky> Half-Left, :save filename, or :w
[07:53] <Half-Left> :qa
[07:53] <mordof> anyone here make gdesklet applet things? i need to know how to convert a string to an int
[07:53] <volCOM_b0i> it is very clear :w :q
[07:53] <blanky> :q!
[07:53] <Half-Left> wtf
[07:53] <blanky> :wq
[07:53] <volCOM_b0i> if you fuxxx it up :qa!
[07:54] <shreevatsa> ZZ
[07:54] <blanky> :q!
[07:54] <brettzilla> so i cant get my freakin ati card to work
[07:54] <brettzilla> :/
[07:54] <shreevatsa> Is "ZZ" the same as ":wq" ?
[07:54] <nuts> ok now i get this
[07:54] <Mosi> yeah
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> blanky: What are you doing?
[07:54] <nuts> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[07:54] <nuts> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:54] <nuts> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:54] <blanky> ubotu tell brettzilla about ati
[07:54] <Mosi> i use ZZ and :wq with roughly equal requency, and they seem to work identically
[07:55] <nuts> does it want me to put in the cd-rom
[07:55] <brettzilla> yeah i saw that, but i just read that there's a way to do it with 2 commands.
[07:55] <volCOM_b0i> brettzilla, you gotta get fglrx for some ati cards.
[07:55] <Auci> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[07:55] <Auci>     what is this error I cant update.
[07:55] <brettzilla> i realize that
[07:55] <brettzilla> i've been trying for 2 days
[07:55] <Mosi> j-linux: your problem is with your boot loader. i think Ubuntu generally uses GRUB, so you need to edit the boot label in /etc/grub.conf
[07:55] <brettzilla> i've gone as far as recompiling it
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> brettzilla: Get it with apt from the seveas repo.
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> make sur eyou have kernel headers installed
[07:56] <Half-Left> nah, nano works like a GUI text editor
[07:56] <brettzilla> saveas repo?
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> !seveas
[07:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> and after you get it all installed, try to reconfigure your xserver. it worked for me.
[07:56] <volCOM_b0i> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i think it is
[07:57] <j-linux> Mosi:  Do you know where I can find that?  I can boot into a # prompt, but I hit "ls" and it doesn't look like my regular file system.
[07:57] <j-linux> (e.g., no "home" directory)
[07:57] <volCOM_b0i> make sure you choose fglrx instead of ATI when you reconfigure
[07:57] <salah> I am trying to setup wirlesss network when I run sudo modprobe -r bcmwl5 I get a msg ( Module bcmwl5 not found.) What I shd do?
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> salah, you ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:58] <Mosi> j-linux if you type "cd /" it will set your current directory to your system root. etc is directly under that. (cd /etc) will takeyou straight to the directory you need)
[07:58] <brettzilla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142427#8
[07:58] <brettzilla> thats what im talking about
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> you have to have those drivers though, are they in the directory your working in?
[07:58] <volCOM_b0i> copy all your windows wireless drivers into a folder and type that
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> in terminal
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> and after you type that, sudo ndiswrapper -l
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> and make sure hardware and software is present
[07:59] <j-linux> Mosi: thank, I will try that...
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i> if it is, sudo ndiswrapper -m
[07:59] <Mosi> j-linux: do you know how to use any command-line editors?
[07:59] <volCOM_b0i>  then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:59] <Mosi> j-edit: text editors that is
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> to make sure ti is working, now you can use commands to connect.
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:00] <Mosi> heh, j-edit....
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> that will scan for networks
[08:00] <j-linux> Mosi: emacs
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (network name)
[08:00] <volCOM_b0i> sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:00] <Mosi> j-linux: good deal. do you happen to know what the device file that contains yoru home directory on it is?
[08:01] <salah> i don't get it,Can u explain ltl more?
[08:01] <volCOM_b0i> that should get your wireless working..  Screw the GUI prorgams, use the command line, it is far easier and works 100%
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> you need a program to wrap around your windows drivers to make them work in linux.  that is what ndiswrapper does
[08:03] <j-linux> Mosi: what do you mean?  (sorry... I'm not an advanced user)
[08:03] <brettzilla> so how do i edit grub? i've got like 8 things in my list
[08:03] <brettzilla> mostly repeats
[08:03] <Mosi> j-linux: can you describe what you did to your hardware that caused the problem?
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> when you type 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf' you are telling ndiswrapper to install the driver bcmwl5.inf
[08:03] <salah> So, How can I setup  it?
[08:03] <volCOM_b0i> HAHA, I am telling you.
[08:04] <blanky> !mplayer
[08:04] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:04] <Morrowyn> morning
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> first you need to get your wireless drivers in a folder
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> your windows ones, they are probably found on your restore disk that came with your computer.
[08:04] <Half-Left> brettzilla, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <volCOM_b0i> should be in a folder called WLAN
[08:04] <brettzilla> thanks!
[08:04] <brettzilla> gedit?
[08:04] <brettzilla> or nano
[08:04] <brettzilla> right
[08:04] <j-linux> Mosi: I had ubuntu breezy on my thinkpad -- 100% of the drive.  I took out the hard drive and put it in an ultrabay adapter and now it wont boot.  So basically, just changed the locaiton of the hard drive and now it says something like "can't find sda1" and gives me a # prompt.
[08:04] <salah> yah
[08:05] <Morrowyn> when i boot ubuntu, it always loads my snd modules, is there any way for me to disable that?
[08:05] <Half-Left> whatever suits you
[08:05] <brettzilla> thanks.
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> when you get them in a folder, you go to that directory in a terminal
[08:05] <salah> Where I should copy them ? in dextop or other place?
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> you can dir to make sure they are there, and your in the right place
[08:05] <Half-Left> remember to sudo :-)
[08:05] <n0yd> Anyone running flight 5 yet?
[08:05] <tkup> I get permission denied whenever I try to mount a linux nfs share from osx. Does anyone know why?
[08:05] <volCOM_b0i> when you are in the folder, you can begin to install the drivers with ndiswrapper.
[08:06] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> you type this
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> that will install it
[08:06] <Morrowyn> ok thanks
[08:06] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -l
[08:07] <blanky> !multiverse
[08:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> that will check to make sure it is installed right; you want to to say software present, hardware present
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> if it says hardware present, and software present
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> you can move on
[08:07] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> that will add a modprobe entry so you don't have to modprobe after every reboot
[08:08] <markk> ok, I am going out of my mind
[08:08] <Mosi> j-linux: during the process of booting up, your computer starts out running BIOS directly off the motherboard, this is a very simple, primitive stage that doesn't have very much intelligence. That passes the job of booting off to a few other stages one at a time, each one progressively smarter and more complicated then the last. The second to last stage is your boot loader, which should be GRUB. GRUB looks for all the necessary filesystem
[08:08] <Mosi> s and such, and it refers to them by special files called device files that are contained in the system directory '/etc'
[08:08] <manda> hai
[08:08] <salah> sudo: ndiswrapper: command not found
[08:08] <salah>  I am getting  this msg
[08:08] <manda> hai
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> have you installed ndiswrapper?
[08:08] <volCOM_b0i> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:09] <markk> my first ubuntu install, I could play americas army just fine.   But i had to reinstall, and now it won't play the game for spit.   Driver changes the same, etc...   but it won't do more than 8 fps, when it did 30 before.   any ideas?
[08:09] <randabis> there's always a keg of beer and a block of cheese
[08:09] <polpak> markk: what video card?
[08:09] <j-linux> Mosi: Thanks... I am going to look at that file in a few minutes...
[08:09] <markk> radeon 9700
[08:09] <markk> pro
[08:09] <polpak> markk: and you've installed the drivers per the HOWTO ?
[08:09] <markk> yes
[08:09] <markk> all 4 installs, yes
[08:09] <markk> only the first one worked
[08:10] <Mosi> j-linux: sda1 is one of those files (the full path name is /etc/sda1). What happened when you switched your hard drive around was that it is now pointed to by a different device file.
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> Salah, did it install?
[08:10] <markk> and yes, formatted the drive each time
[08:10] <salah> yah i did it but it says
[08:10] <Auci> What do I need to do  in order to fix this?E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[08:10] <salah> some file not updated
[08:10] <markk> i'm using fglrx
[08:10] <polpak> markk: what is the output of this command ?? glxinfo  | grep direct
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> ok, see if it installed. type
[08:10] <volCOM_b0i> whereis ndiswrapper
[08:10] <Mosi> j-linux: when your computer boots, what happens when you do LS from the directory you start out in?
[08:10] <j-linux> Mosi: is there any way to figure out what it is suppsoed to be?
[08:11] <manda> hai
[08:11] <markk> direct rendering; yes
[08:11] <j-linux> Mosi: I get a strange looking file system (no home directory)
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> ndiswrapper: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper /etc/ndiswrapper /usr/share/man/man8/ndiswrapper.8.gz
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux: it would be easier if i could see it, but we should be able to figure it out
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> should say something liek that
[08:11] <polpak> markk: have you tried other openGL games?
[08:11] <salah> yah
[08:11] <V4Vendetta> LMFAOOO .... http://www.demonlegion.net/private/Hammer/Screenshot3.png
[08:11] <markk> no
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> so it installed
[08:11] <salah> that's true
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux: can you name two or three of the files in the directory you're in?
[08:11] <j-linux> Mosi: I think I tried typing 'emacs' with no luck.,
[08:11] <markk> I don't know of any other games this demanding
[08:11] <salah> now what is next to do
[08:11] <Mosi> j-linux or directories
[08:11] <j-linux> I think there were the regular directories: dev, etc, bin
[08:11] <volCOM_b0i> ok, is your terminal in the same directory as your drivers
[08:12] <n0yd> Anyone have a link to the flight 5 release notes?
[08:12] <Mosi> j-linux: what's in /home?
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> type ls to see if they are there
[08:12] <Morrowyn> Half-Left, i dont have that blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d/ any idea?
[08:12] <j-linux> Mosi: I couldn't find a home directory...
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcm43xxa.cat  bcmwl5.PNF    bcmwlhom.ini  data2.cab     layout.bin  setup.inx
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcm43xx.cat   bcmwl5.sys    bcmwlntp.sys  ikernel.ex_   setupa.ini  setup.iss
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5a.inf   bcmwld2k.exe  bcmwlu00.exe  infcache.1    setupd.ini  sp29842.cva
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5a.PNF   bcmwlhoa.ini  data1.cab     is.exe        setup.exe
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> bcmwl5.inf    bcmwlhom.exe  data1.hdr     launcher.ini  Setup.ini
[08:13] <volCOM_b0i> you should see something liek that.
[08:13] <n0yd> heh
[08:13] <blanky> hey guys
[08:13] <blanky> in terminal
[08:13] <blanky> could I CD into a hidden folder
[08:13] <Mosi> j-linux: is the directory itself not there, or no files in it?
[08:13] <blanky> cause, cd .mplayer isn't working
[08:13] <n0yd> A bunch of windows drivers
[08:13] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, I'm in Dapper so
[08:13] <polpak> blanky: yes
[08:13] <alicia> volCOM_b0i: !flood
[08:13] <salah> not really
[08:13] <alicia> !flood
[08:13] <ubotu> it has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:13] <salah> I have in CD
[08:13] <salah> Should I copy in dextop?
[08:13] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: One of those evil buggers can be used natively in Dapper.
[08:14] <blanky> jorge@blank:~$ cd .mplayer
[08:14] <blanky> bash: cd: .mplayer: No such file or directory
[08:14] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't see a home directory there... very strange
[08:14] <n0yd> !info gnome
[08:14] <alicia> bcm43xx can be used natively in Dapper
[08:14] <polpak> blanky: then the directory isn't there
[08:14] <ubotu> gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[08:14] <volCOM_b0i> cafuego, i thought i saw it detect my card in dapper install!
[08:14] <Mosi> j-linux: that is strange. can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/fstab? ( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )
[08:14] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: I use it (pcmcia) on my laptop and on my wife's iBook.
[08:14] <n0yd> The package size looks a bit off :)
[08:14] <randabis> bcm43xx is evil in dapper
[08:14] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[08:14] <ubotu> bcm43xx is, like, You can get a working firmware set from http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/bcm43xx_firmware.zip for your bcm4306 based card (iBook, Powerbook)
[08:14] <j-linux> Mosi:  I will have to reboot: I am stuck in Window$ at the moment.
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: ok
[08:15] <salah> wheer I should copy?
[08:15] <Auci> What do I need to do  in order to fix this?E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> wow, I only know the ndiswrapper route, I will check this out when dapper is stable.
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: wait
[08:15] <n0yd> !info xfce4
[08:15] <Mosi> j-linux: post the contents of /etc/grub.conf and /etc/passwd while you're at it
[08:15] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:15] <j-linux> Mosi: ok
[08:15] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: If wpasupplicant wasn't so crappy, it would rock :-)
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> how do you get it installed native in dapper?
[08:15] <n0yd> !info jwm
[08:15] <Morrowyn> ok\
[08:16] <j-linux> Mosi: I'll be back in a few minutes.
[08:16] <n0yd> :( no jims window manager
[08:16] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, i'll wait
[08:16] <j-linux> Mosi: thanks for your help.
[08:16] <n0yd> or is it "joe"
[08:16] <volCOM_b0i> salah, make a folder in your HOME called wlan
[08:16] <Mosi> j-linux: no worries, giving back to the community :)
[08:16] <keherman> I love Ubuntu!
[08:16] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: You install dapper, and fetch that firmware zip, place firmware in /lib/firmware/$(uname -r) and it works.
[08:16] <keherman> i wish i could marry it
[08:17] <keherman> but Bush would say that's against the constitution!
[08:17] <randabis> cafuego, not for me :p it freezes my system
[08:17] <Half-Left> Morrowyn, see if there is a blacklist file, do locate blacklist
[08:17] <randabis> and causes kernel panic
[08:17] <volCOM_b0i> does it need to be the firmware zip? Or can i use the files from my restore disk?
[08:17] <keherman> is the Dapper delay definite?
[08:17] <Morrowyn> its in /etc/hotplug :)
[08:17] <randabis> !dapper
[08:17] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:17] <cafuego> randabis: Got a non 4306?
[08:18] <salah> Yah I made it
[08:18] <volCOM_b0i> ok, got them copied salah?
[08:18] <salah> yah
[08:18] <salah> done
[08:18] <cafuego> volCOM_b0i: You need the extraced frmware, you cna use a util to get it from the windoze drivers, but it's hassle (and I _know_ mine work :-)
[08:18] <n0yd> !info xgl
[08:18] <^Dingbat^> arivne
[08:18] <randabis> cafuego, yes, I bcm4318..I don't use the firmware you provide though..I use the firmware I got from using fwcutter on the driver that works with ndiswrapper
[08:19] <volCOM_b0i> ok salah, are you on the computer right now that you are trying to get working?
[08:19] <salah> yah
[08:19] <cafuego> randabis: Mine works on my linksys card and the iBook, i got it by using fwcutter on a firmware for an access point.
[08:19] <salah> I am using lan
[08:19] <blanky> guys, for the new firefox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion says i need the tar.gz file, where can i find it here ? what director? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1/
[08:20] <eubenesa> hey
[08:20] <volCOM_b0i> ok take a terminal to that wlan directory
[08:20] <eubenesa> when i do sudo apt-get install nabi
[08:20] <eubenesa> it says it cannot find the package
[08:20] <randabis> cafuego, yeah, I think it's just not gonna work with the 4318
[08:20] <Morrowyn> eubenesa, try adding the proper repository to your sources.list
[08:20] <Morrowyn> and do a apt-get update
[08:20] <eubenesa> morrowyn, how?
[08:21] <Toma-> blanky: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> are you there, type ls to make sure.
[08:21] <eubenesa> i got it
[08:21] <eubenesa> thanks
[08:21] <Morrowyn> i dont know in what rep nabi resides, but searcg on that
[08:21] <salah> yah
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> you should see the bcmwl5.inf file
[08:21] <salah> I got it
[08:21] <salah> yah I can see
[08:21] <blanky> thats what i thought Toma- but I got i386 (athlon xp +2500), isn't i686 for 64 bit?
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> ok, now type ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> sudo first
[08:21] <Half-Left> blanky, http://www.mozilla.com/
[08:21] <volCOM_b0i> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[08:22] <blanky> Toma-, ?
[08:22] <Half-Left> just click the download link
[08:22] <Toma-> blanky: no. x86_64 is 64 bit, 386,586,686 is all 32 and favorable for you
[08:22] <salah> yah
[08:22] <blanky> oooo thanks!
[08:22] <volCOM_b0i> then type, ndiswrapper -l
[08:22] <volCOM_b0i> does it say hardware present, and software present
[08:22] <salah> both are present
[08:23] <volCOM_b0i> ok, type sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:23] <salah> yah
[08:23] <volCOM_b0i> ok, you onlky need to do this because we don't want to reboot, type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:24] <salah> operation not permitted sir.
[08:24] <volCOM_b0i> did you use sudo
[08:25] <salah> yah
[08:25] <salah> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:25] <salah> my light is not coming
[08:25] <blanky> !firefox1.5
[08:25] <salah> should i restart?
[08:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:25] <devios> what's everyone using to manage music library in gnome on ubuntu?
[08:25] <volCOM_b0i> no, not yet.  I am trying to think of why it is doing that.
[08:26] <alicia> devios: rhythmbox + easytag
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> if it isn't going to modprobe now, I don't see why it will when you reboot
[08:26] <salah> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:26] <ajopaul> devios: xfmedia, which came with xfce desktop!! cool n simple
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> one second, maybe you need your kernel drivers.  This is just a guess though.
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> kernel headers
[08:26] <volCOM_b0i> sorry
[08:27] <n0yd> Could these be a problem?  I'm getting while installing gnome in kubuntu...: ** (process:17177): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[08:27] <salah> it's ok
[08:27] <Mosi> ok guys, this should be easy. why does it tell me i don't have glib 2.0 installed when i try to compile swfdec for flash on PPC? Assuming i really don't have it, where do i get it? it's not in the repos...
[08:27] <volCOM_b0i> I have never had this happen before.
[08:27] <linuxmonkey> cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0) <---i forget what i need to install prior to installing cedega <---anyone know?
[08:27] <Morrowyn> apt-get install x11lib or something like that?
[08:27] <devios> alicia: ajopaul: thanks
[08:28] <alicia> devios: np
[08:28] <Healot> libx11... for the runtime... and libx11-dev for the development
[08:28] <ajopaul> morrowyn: try sudo apt-get install xlibs
[08:28] <Morrowyn> :)
[08:28] <volCOM_b0i> Salah, what processor are you using? AMD?
[08:28] <Morrowyn> not for me, but thanks
[08:28] <salah> no
[08:28] <salah> Intel p4
[08:28] <ajopaul> oh k..
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> ok type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> ok type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[08:29] <volCOM_b0i> the second one.
[08:30] <salah> could not find
[08:30] <aragorn> aragorn
[08:30] <aragorn> hi
[08:31] <randabis> heh
[08:31] <_-H22> hello everyone
[08:31] <salah> it's not finding
[08:31] <randabis> all hail the return of the king
[08:31] <_-H22> could someone help me please?
[08:31] <elkbuntu> randabis, i dont see elvis anywhere, sorry
[08:31] <volCOM_b0i> ok, use synaptic and search kernel headers
[08:31] <volCOM_b0i> see what comes up
[08:31] <luke_> I know I can connect to another linux box via "Connect to server" in the places menu, but what program does it use to mount?
[08:31] <Mosi> j-linux: welcome back, get the files?
[08:31] <luke_> I know it uses ssh, but how?
[08:31] <j-linux> Mosi:  I couldn't find any of those files, but I wrote down the messages that I got.
[08:32] <randabis> elkbuntu, bah
[08:32] <j-linux> I'll post them to pastebin, just a moment.
[08:32] <_-H22> i have a problem with a webcam
[08:32] <ajopaul> salah:  or u cud try this sudo apt-get check linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[08:32] <volCOM_b0i> do you see anything like linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[08:32] <linuxmonkey> help.... i get cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  when i try to install it
[08:32] <_-H22> i have a labtec webcam
[08:33] <_-H22> i have followed the procedure on the wiki
[08:33] <volCOM_b0i> thanks ajopaul
[08:33] <_-H22> and i still have my pc frozen when i use it
[08:33] <Healot> and the cam doesn't work, still?
[08:33] <Mosi> j-linux: that's troubling... all three of those should be fairly vital to the functionality of your operating  system
[08:33] <ajopaul> fine :)
[08:34] <Whatsisname> greetings all
[08:34] <salah> no it's not
[08:35] <ppd> hello. how do I enable DGA in dapper?
[08:35] <volCOM_b0i> there is nothing there?  Or is it not installed?
[08:35] <j-linux> Mosi: http://pastebin.com/597522
[08:35] <Gener21839> Anyone mind helping me learn how to compile something I have the source code to?
[08:36] <j-linux> Mosi: the /dev folder had a list of drives in it -- sda sda1 etc...
[08:36] <Half-Left> Gener21839, sure
[08:36] <salah> Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 386
[08:36] <salah> i just installit
[08:36] <Whatsisname> gener21839 have you read the INSTALL file in the tar.gz
[08:36] <linuxmonkey> help.... i get cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  when i try to install it, any ideas?
[08:36] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, it looks like your harddive is not being found at all
[08:37] <Gener21839> I dont really know much of linux or IRC btw
[08:37] <Mosi> j-linux: do you remember if /dev also had device files named hda1 hda2 etc in it?
[08:37] <Gener21839> just really general and basic stuff
[08:37] <j-linux> Mosi: that sounds very possible... since I moved it.  It it is booting from that drive though
[08:37] <Half-Left> Gener21839, why do you want to compile?
[08:37] <volCOM_b0i> there was no 2.6.9?
[08:37] <j-linux> Mosi:  I don't remember, but I think so.
[08:37] <Gener21839> I'd like to install Emule thats why
[08:37] <Mosi> j-linux: it probably does.... what exactly did you say you did tot he hard drive again?
[08:38] <joachim-n> how do I get nautilus to refresh its scripts folder?
[08:38] <Half-Left> Gener21839, there is no .deb?
[08:38] <joachim-n> oh nm, might be a chmod thing
[08:38] <volCOM_b0i> damn, eh..., I hope it wasn't just his kernel headers missing!!  What a shame.
[08:38] <Gener21839> mind telling me how to chat directly with you half-left?
[08:38] <ajopaul> linuxmonkey: sudo apt-get install xlibs
[08:38] <j-linux> Mosi: I took it from its original spot in my laptop and moved it to an ultrabay adapter (a plastic tray that sits in my laptop's CD/DVD drive slot)... so now I ahve two hard drives... my original one (linux) in the ultrabay, and the windows one (this one) in the regular hard drive slot.
[08:39] <Half-Left> Gener21839, pm me
[08:39] <volCOM_b0i> Have a great night everyone!  Eh, rather depressed after my failed attempt at helping :/ haha
[08:40] <linuxmonkey> ajopaul, Package xlibs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:40] <Whatsisname> gener21839 why don't you try installing xmule instead, its in the apt repository
[08:40] <Mosi> j-linux: was the drive with windows on it installed in the computer prior to the switch?
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> wait, anyone get XGL & COMPIZ running, boy is it beautiful!
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> runs great on my 6600gt!
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> some locks. but still fun
[08:41] <Half-Left> XGL rocks
[08:41] <Whatsisname> is the XGL thing going to be in gnome 2.14 or is it to come later
[08:41] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't have that drive until today.  I just installed windows this afternoon... was 100% linux for two months, but now have to occasionally boot the other OS :S
[08:41] <volCOM_b0i> Isn't that stable, more of a toy right now, imho
[08:42] <Half-Left> Whatsisname, it's not dependent on gnome release
[08:42] <Mosi> j-linux: that sucks :P but off-topic. Is the drive in the uldrabay still marked as the master?
[08:42] <Whatsisname> oh
[08:42] <Whatsisname> hmm I thought gnome was working on a 3d card powered window manager
[08:42] <Half-Left> it works with any window manager
[08:42] <j-linux> Mosi: hmm... I don't know.  How can I tell?
[08:43] <volCOM_b0i> I have only got it working with gnome so far, haven't tried kde or anything yet.
[08:43] <brettzilla> so for some reason, my mouse settings in gnome for motion are set to the lowest levels.. and it doesnt change  a damn thing about my mouse.... any suggestions?
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: I didn't do anything to change it.  I just pulled it out, put it in the ultrabay... put the other drive in, and installed windows... then removed the CD drive and replaced it with my original linux hard drive.
[08:43] <Mosi> j-linux: did you play with any jumpers on the physical case on either drive when you were isntalling the new one?
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: didn't change anything.
[08:43] <j-linux> Mosi: never done this before... :S
[08:43] <linuxmonkey> is there a way to add something to ubotu
[08:43] <volCOM_b0i> haha xgl and xfce!  That would be sweet!
[08:44] <Gener21839> k I saw xMule, and I just learned how to use the repository better
[08:44] <Half-Left> like I said, ANY windows manager works with XGL
[08:44] <volCOM_b0i> cool
[08:44] <Mosi> j-linux: ok. i can't be sure, but i'm guessing what happened is that you're still booting initially onto the old linux drive, but when it gets to the boot menu and you choose linux, it goes looking for itself by it's old name, and it's probably now /dev/sdb1 or /dev/hda1
[08:45] <Half-Left> GNOME is better because of gconf, thats why it was done first, amoung other things
[08:45] <Mosi> pardon me folks, does anyone know if it's possible to use Cygwin to mount an ext2 partition in windows?
[08:45] <j-linux> Mosi: that sounds likely.  It is saying "sda1 no such device"
[08:45] <volCOM_b0i> Yeah, I only know the gconf way.
[08:45] <Half-Left> for compiz anyway
[08:45] <volCOM_b0i> makes it easy to edit how the window behavior
[08:46] <Half-Left> yer
[08:46] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, i'd be willing to bet the problem is just that the linux drive has a different device file pointing to it now.
[08:46] <j-linux> Mosi: is there a way to make it look for the new name?
[08:46] <Half-Left> and store info
[08:46] <Whatsisname> Mosi I know there is an ext2 file system driver for windows
[08:46] <volCOM_b0i> Does it crash randomly on you while you are typing sometimes?  That is my problem with it.
[08:46] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, but i'm not entirely sure what it is just yet. when your computer is booting up and you get to the menu whereyou choose your OS, what does it look like roughly?
[08:47] <Mosi> whatsisname: do you know where to get it?
[08:47] <Whatsisname> have you made sure all your jumpers and stuff are correct
[08:47] <Whatsisname> somewhere on sourceforge, i'll grab a link
[08:47] <Half-Left> volCOM_b0i, crashed once and that was while trying  a some screensaver
[08:47] <j-linux> It gives me a list of about 6 ubuntu options... different kernels and safe modes.. and then one for XP, but I didn't have XP when I did that.  I think there was a bug...
[08:48] <Half-Left> pefectly stable otherwise
[08:48] <Whatsisname> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[08:48] <j-linux> Mosi: I think it looked at my IBM thinkpad 'recovery partition' and thought that it was XP.
[08:48] <volCOM_b0i> I found that it crashes when I am holding SHIFT for capitals
[08:48] <Mosi> j-linux: is the background blue, or black?
[08:48] <Whatsisname> err wait
[08:49] <j-linux> Mosi: black... regular white-on-black terminal (no graphics)
[08:49] <Whatsisname> here http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[08:49] <Mosi> j-linux: does it say either GRUB or Lilo anywhere in the menu or title?
[08:50] <j-linux> Mosi: I think so.  I've done so many linux installs that I can't remember which one I have.  Whatever the standard Breezy bootloader is...
[08:50] <Healot> good luck on those driver, remember that it is still development... might mess with your e2 partition
[08:51] <Mosi> i don't know Lilo very well, but i'm sure it wouldn't be hard to figure out with google... i think Breezy uses GRUB by default, but i don't know because i'm on PPC and PPC uses Yaboot (pain in the ass) :(
[08:51] <Mosi> anyone know what the default boot loader is for Breezy? is it GRUB?
[08:51] <nhaines> Yes, Ubuntu does use GRUB by default.
[08:51] <Mosi> thanks
[08:51] <volCOM_b0i> GRUB
[08:51] <j-linux> nhaines: Grub?  I just looked on google and got this page: http://www.nerdylorrin.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=BootLoader
[08:52] <j-linux> says lilo  (?)
[08:52] <nhaines> It's mistaken.  It does use GRUB by default.
[08:52] <j-linux> But I think I remember it being grub... can't remember
[08:52] <volCOM_b0i> /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:52] <nhaines> Yes, that's the file.
[08:52] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm pretty sure ubuntu uses GRUB, i dunno why that page says not
[08:53] <j-linux> Lots of junk out there on the web...
[08:53] <volCOM_b0i> just search the wiki at ubuntu.
[08:53] <Whatsisname> it uses grub unless you have XFS for your / or /boot partitions i am 99% sure
[08:53] <j-linux> So it must be grub...
[08:54] <volCOM_b0i> My breezy install is.
[08:54] <j-linux> Mosi: do you know how I can get into grub.conf if I can't find the hard drive?
[08:54] <Healot> Grub is recommended and default for ubuntu, but it still allows LIlo to be installed...
[08:54] <Mosi> j-linux: try downloading the ext2 plugin for windows at this link:
[08:54] <Mosi> http://ghisler.fileburst.com/fsplugins/ex2fs.zip
[08:54] <j-linux> Mosi: or, maybe I will have to swap the hard drives, make the changes, and then swap again...
[08:55] <Mosi> j-linux: Windows should have autodetected it, so you can probably get to it no problem
[08:55] <j-linux> Mosi: or boot from an external CD drive and use Knoppix to do it.
[08:55] <volCOM_b0i> i edit my grub by editing, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:55] <Whatsisname> anyone know where one could find some sort of official "feature request" for ubuntu
[08:55] <Mosi> j-linux: your drive should be perfectly accessable, since if it were booting with NTLDR instead of GRUB you wouldn't even get the option to boot into linux, and windows doesn't use GRUB
[08:55] <Healot> Whatsisname: : try its launchpad
[08:55] <Healot> yeah what's th address of "ubuntu";s launchpad site?
[08:55] <joachim-n> can anyone think of a way to get the background-busy pointer to show?
[08:56] <Mosi> it's just liked to the wrong name in GRUB, but it's still there and accessable i'd assume
[08:56] <nhaines> http://launchpad.net/
[08:56] <j-linux> Mosi: I don't have the option to boot linux... I have to go into the bios and change the boot order (but that is another problem to fix later)
[08:56] <matthew> Hi I'm brand new to Ubuntu as of today, can someone help me run Xboard to play chess online?
[08:56] <volCOM_b0i> ohhh. j-linux, did you install windows after you installed linux?
[08:56] <Whatsisname> is xboard installed
[08:56] <Whatsisname> matthew
[08:56] <j-linux> volCOM_b0i: it's not a dual boot -- two separate drives.
[08:56] <matthew> is the best way to install it from the website?
[08:57] <matthew> i didnt see it in the apps list
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> simple
[08:57] <jetscreamer> you need a chess engine as well as xboard
[08:57] <volCOM_b0i> hmm.. I use grub to boot from two different hard disks on my desktop.
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> open a terminal
[08:57] <Healot> nhaines: : the micro site of ubuntu bug report. etc... anyways that's a good hint
[08:57] <Mosi> j-linux: if you have Knoppix, boot into that so we can IRC while you work on it :)
[08:57] <_-H22> could anyone help me with a labtec webcam?
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> type "sudo apt-get update"
[08:57] <_-H22> it freezes my system
[08:57] <TeRaHuRtZ> and then type "sudo apt-get install xboard"
[08:57] <matthew> ok i updated them
[08:57] <jetscreamer> you need a chess engine as well as xboard
[08:57] <j-linux> Mosi: well... I have a knoppix disk with me (always carry one), but I have no more CD drive because I put this ultrabay thing in it :S  I'm at a cafe for the Internet access... :S
[08:58] <TeRaHuRtZ> off course without the the quotes
[08:58] <Mosi> volCOM_b0i you can boot to different drives from one GRUB, but if he put windows on the other drive then it wouldn't have been overwritten by NTLDR, is all
[08:58] <matthew> can i use it without an engine, just to connect to the internet chess club?
[08:58] <nhaines> Healot: well, that's Malon, but it's there too.  :)
[08:58] <jetscreamer> and don't forget the extra pieces
[08:58] <Mosi> j-linux: oh, bummer :(
[08:58] <j-linux> Mosi: I wish I had put puppy linux on my thumb drive..
[08:58] <julian> Hi. Does anyone know where I can find printer drivers for my Canon MP760
[08:58] <volCOM_b0i> yeah, could he reinstall grub to overwrite it?
[08:58] <j-linux> Mosi: if I had a choice to use Knoppix, I would definately be using it right now :)
[08:58] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew, apt-get install gnuchessx
[08:58] <matthew> matthew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install xboard
[08:58] <matthew> Reading package lists... Done
[08:58] <matthew> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:58] <matthew> Package xboard is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:58] <matthew> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:58] <matthew> is only available from another source
[08:58] <matthew> E: Package xboard has no installation candidate
[08:59] <volCOM_b0i> or set his linux drive as the master and then edit his menu.list manually for windows?
[08:59] <jetscreamer> must be in universe
[08:59] <Mosi> j-linux: lol, i was wondering. umm.... yeah. go get that plugin for windows. without that we can't get to your grub.conf.
[08:59] <TeRaHuRtZ> matthew, you need to change your apt sources.list then
[08:59] <Madpilot> matthew, pastebin next time!
[08:59] <nhaines> volCOM_b0i: you wouldn't wnat to change the way the drives are set.
[08:59] <Madpilot> !info xboard
[08:59] <ubotu> xboard: (An X Window System Chess Board.), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.2.6-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1644 kB
[08:59] <matthew> i dont know how to pastebin :)
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell matthew about pastebin
[08:59] <TeRaHuRtZ> pastebin.com :)
[08:59] <jetscreamer> !tell matthew -about paste
[08:59] <nhaines> But if he makes the Linux drive bootable, then he can configure GRUB the right way.
[08:59] <j-linux> Mosi: is there a plugin?
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell matthew about universe
[09:00] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah, i gave you the link. let me find it agian
[09:00] <j-linux> Mosi: sorry I might have missed that part of the conversation
[09:00] <volCOM_b0i> oh, i see, thanks.  I may need that info one day!
[09:00] <Mosi> http://ghisler.fileburst.com/fsplugins/ex2fs.zip
[09:00] <Mosi> j-linux no worries
[09:00] <matthew> so whats my next step?
[09:00] <jetscreamer> crafty is the best chess engine imo, with the medium sized books
[09:00] <matthew> I need to run this in universe?
[09:00] <jetscreamer> enable universe matthew
[09:00] <jetscreamer> no you need to enable universe
[09:00] <j-linux> Mosi: ok got it... will install now.,
[09:00] <KakiPukul> The universe...
[09:01] <matthew> ok i'll try
[09:01] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, let me knwo when it's done
[09:01] <Mosi> does anyone here know if it's possible to mount ext2 filesystems in windows with Cygwin?
[09:01] <transgress_> okay i'm trying to get my wifi card to work in ubuntu... i had the problem with ndiswrapper in breezy, have the same problem using the firmware and fwcutter in dapper, but had it working fine with ndiswrapper in gentoo... it will let me connect to my home router but nowhere else.  it scans and sees stuff fine, but it won't connect.
[09:01] <j-linux> Mosi: what is total commander?  Do I need to download that also?
[09:01] <transgress_> Mosi not sure, but there are windows drivers available to mount them in windows
[09:01] <Whatsisname> Mosi
[09:01] <KakiPukul> transgress: : it works the same in ubuntu...
[09:02] <Whatsisname> just use the ext2 file system driver I linked to
[09:02] <DCCole> how do i unpack tar,bz2 files
[09:02] <Whatsisname> i've used it, it works perfectly
[09:02] <transgress_> KakiPukul what do you mean?
[09:02] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm not sure. i don't use windows, so i've never used that. i got the link on this page: http://www.ghisler.com/plugins.htm
[09:02] <Whatsisname> DCCole: man tar
[09:02] <KakiPukul> DCCole: , bunzip2 filename
[09:02] <Whatsisname> type that command and learn to use tar
[09:02] <DCCole> thanks
[09:02] <j-linux> Mosi: ok... I think I have to download this other shareware program also.. .just a min...
[09:02] <nhaines> KakiPukul: Ubuntu may use different versions of ndiswrapper.
[09:03] <Mosi> j-linux: wait
[09:03] <Mosi> j-linux: i just found the link whatsisname gave me,  try it instead: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[09:03] <transgress_> the big difference i notice with ubuntu and gentoo is that with gentoo, my wifi card power button worked... the light stayed on when i had ndiswrapper loaded... it doesn't in ubuntu... not in breezy or dapper.  and it's two different programs doing it...
[09:03] <julian> does anyone know where I can find additional printer drivers to use with Ubuntu 5.10?
[09:04] <KakiPukul> julian:  www.linuxprinting.org
[09:04] <volCOM_b0i> are you connecting from the command line trans?
[09:04] <DCCole> that doesnt help me any
[09:04] <j-linux> Mosi: wow... I didn't know this existed... downloading now...
[09:04] <transgress_> volCOM_b0i command line, wifi-radar, and the networking applet
[09:04] <julian> KakiPukul Thanks. I'll give it a try
[09:04] <Mosi> j-linux: three cheers for sourceforge :P
[09:05] <volCOM_b0i> iwlist wlan0 scan, iwconfig wlan0 essid (network name), dhclient wlan0.... that is what i do
[09:05] <volCOM_b0i> all SU of course.
[09:05] <KakiPukul> julian: : it is not the ubuntu official drivers. but it may have the latest drivers for some newer printers out here
[09:05] <transgress_> volCOM_b0i i tried that.  dhclient is the only thing that fails.
[09:06] <matthew> ok i'm reloading packages now from universe
[09:06] <cebulon> hi, -:)
[09:06] <nhaines> Hi, cebulon.  :)
[09:06] <volCOM_b0i> ok, when you go to other places, are you shutting down the computer, or suspending it?
[09:07] <transgress_> shutting down
[09:07] <volCOM_b0i> have you tried to ifconfig wlan0 down first?
[09:07] <transgress_> yeah
[09:07] <transgress_> except now it's ifconfig eth1 down
[09:07] <Whatsisname> i thnink i'm going to go bake a pan of lasagna
[09:07] <nhaines> I have a pretty serious problem with my bcm4306 wireless network card using the native drives in Dapper.  Is there an #ubuntu-kernel room or something?
[09:07] <volCOM_b0i> weird, I know I have that problem sometimes when I change networks too, but once i set it back down and start over it connects.
[09:07] <nhaines> I want to get more information so I can maybe file a bug.
[09:08] <transgress_> nhaines what is the problem?
[09:08] <j-linux> Mosi: I'm trying to figure it out... not a straightforward installatoin
[09:08] <cebulon> iam looking into installing Ubuntu 64bit on a TARGA Turion 64 Notebook, any experience here (Touchpad,Wlan,Bluetooth, WEBCam (built in,) TV Card (PCMCIA) )))
[09:08] <nhaines> Basically, the card works perfectly with the bcm43xx module, but when I restart the computer, it never works right.
[09:08] <matthew> i got xboard running!
[09:08] <Mosi> j-linux: i'm working ons tuff overhere, so no hurry
[09:09] <j-linux> Mosi: thanks again for your help...
[09:09] <transgress_> nhaines is it loading the bcm module at boot?
[09:09] <liable> transgress_: so you can ping the router?
[09:09] <volCOM_b0i> Ah, there was just someone here that had the dapper native work too!
[09:09] <damian_> hi
[09:09] <nhaines> Sometimes I can go to network-admin and just set the gateway, but usually I have to do sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo depmod -a; sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[09:09] <transgress_> liable can't ping the router, i can just see it's there.
[09:09] <liable> transgress_: how?
[09:09] <KakiPukul> cebulon: |: Bluetooth and touchpad parts are the easiest... webcam and TVcard are the hardest
[09:09] <transgress_> liable iwlist scanning
[09:10] <damian_> who here can code and wats to help work on what im calling the untimate linux media player basically dont like whats there want ot get the good parts of every player and make the ultimate
[09:10] <nhaines> At which point it doesn't work, but I go into network-admin and set eth0 as the gateway and everything is happy again.  :)
[09:10] <nhaines> I believe it is, transgress, yes.
[09:10] <liable> transgress_: right, so you srentactually connected to it?
[09:10] <cebulon> KakiPukul: still sound s good so far ...
[09:10] <transgress_> liable not here.  i've connected once, but it lost the signal immediately... even though it's a perfect signal throughout her house
[09:11] <squid0> hi guys
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: paste output of ifconfig -a, iwconfig and route to a paster
[09:11] <nhaines> Hi, squid0   :)
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: its an open ap?
[09:11] <KakiPukul> cebulon: because bluetooth and touchpad are mostly configured automatically... webcam and TVcard mostly manually
[09:11] <squid0> i can't log in to ubuntu properly; the monitor seems to crash, or something like that
[09:11] <transgress_> liable i can't atm... i can't get online in linux.  and yes it's an open ap
[09:11] <liable> transgress_: dhclient <iface> fails?
[09:12] <cebulon> KakiPukul: its a DVB-T / ANALOG / FM TUNER Card from TARGA     (PCMCIA)
[09:12] <transgress_> liable yes
[09:12] <squid0> as soon as I log in from gdm, the screen goes black and won't output anything at all until I shutdown completely and then start up again
[09:12] <Mosi> j-linux: no problem :) i took a few years of linux classes at my JC, but i don't have a lot of hands-on experience actually running linux, so i feel like a noob most of the time ^_^. it's nice to be able to use my technical knowledge from time to time.
[09:12] <liable> transgress_: tried setting a static ip?
[09:12] <cebulon> KakiPukul: WEBCAM is a Buil-in one
[09:12] <transgress_> nope but i don't see how that would differ since the one time i did get connected to her it lost the connection
[09:13] <cebulon> KakiPukul: WEBCAM is a built-in one
[09:13] <liable> transgress_: dont guess, know.
[09:13] <liable> jetscreamer: hi :)
[09:13] <KakiPukul> oh... built-in eh,.. I guess more trouble to that :)
[09:13] <transgress_> liable okay well i'ma reboot and try again and i'll see how that goes
[09:13] <nhaines> Well, good news with my network card is that I can just go back to ndiswrapper, but I'd of course be much happier if the native drivers would work.  :)
[09:14] <cebulon> KakiPukul: are there TV Card howto's out there ??   I can look at ???
[09:14] <KakiPukul> cebulon: : you can install TVtime or Zapping TV Viewer... ask the other who has successfully done that...
[09:14] <nhaines> Or, more accurately, I'd really like to help get the native drivers working.
[09:14] <KakiPukul> as I don't own any TVcard
[09:14] <cebulon> KakiPukul: thx
[09:14] <KakiPukul> cebulon: : there a lot out there... and Google isn't so evil
[09:15] <volCOM_b0i> Any suggestions on a better looking IRC than XCHAT?
[09:15] <transgress_> irssi
[09:15] <cebulon> KakiPukul: Google is alwas a last resort
[09:15] <nhaines> Google is a really good first result.
[09:15] <mustard5> cebulon, xawtv is a basic tv app that works well
[09:16] <nhaines> Or, barring that, the Ubuntu forums can be a good first resort.
[09:16] <Mosi> can anyone tell me why the hell tar just decided to write to stdout when i did tar -c /boot?
[09:16] <KakiPukul> ubuntu forums, I think someone discuss about TVtuner here yesterday
[09:16] <cebulon> got that, BTW i am new to Ubuntu, still working with Fedora 4
[09:17] <KakiPukul> just "tar", Mosi?
[09:17] <vladuz976> is there a way to get gnome-terminal in the right-click menu?
[09:17] <volCOM_b0i> thank you trans, i just looked at some screens, that is exactly what I am looking for.
[09:17] <cebulon> maybe Fedora 5 next week <BG>
[09:17] <mustard5> vladuz976, yep
[09:17] <mustard5> vladuz976, I'll just find the package name..
[09:17] <vladuz976> mustard5: would you tell me how?
[09:18] <Mosi> KakiPukul: generates an argument error
[09:18] <mustard5> vladuz976, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:18] <vladuz976> mustard5: how does that allow me to edit the menu?
[09:18] <mustard5> vladuz976, you may have to restart nautilus to see it
[09:19] <KakiPukul> should refers to ubuntu's tar manual...
[09:19] <mustard5> vladuz976, it doesnt allow you to edit it, it puts the option in the menu when you install it
[09:19] <cebulon> OK, thx for your help, have to leave for now ...
[09:19] <nhaines> Take care, cebulon.
[09:20] <cebulon> Take care, too
[09:20] <vladuz976> when i install gnome-terminal?
[09:20] <mustard5> vladuz976, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:20] <mustard5> vladuz976, read the package name at the end of that line
[09:20] <vladuz976> mustard5: thanks
[09:21] <nhaines> Guten Morgen, meinaeiner.  :)
[09:21] <TeRaHuRtZ> dang, gnuchess engine is hard
[09:22] <meinaeiner> hi nhaines, all
[09:23] <ajopaul> i get this message when i try to run any program as su, its fine if i do it with sudo, wat cud be wrong ???    Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:23] <ajopaul> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:23] <ajopaul> (xfmedia:9493): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:23] <Mosi> KakiPukul: i RTFM first :)
[09:23] <notos> Hi does any one know Why ubuntu Breezey does not detect my network but Debian Sarge Does
[09:23] <notos> im trying to install breezy
[09:24] <j-linux> Anyone know where grub.conf might live?  I can't find it in /etc or /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:24] <nhaines> It's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:24] <j-linux> nhaines: menu.lst is my grub.conf file?
[09:24] <nhaines> Yes, to edit the grub menu.  :)
[09:24] <mustard5> notos, I have no idea :)
[09:24] <KakiPukul> notos: ubuntu breezy != Debian sarge
[09:24] <mustard5> notos, what type of connection?
[09:25] <Mosi> nhaines: i shoud know that, why don't i? is there another file named grub.conf?
[09:25] <notos> ADSL ... via Ethernet
[09:25] <Mosi> j-linux: did you get your linux drive mounted?
[09:25] <j-linux> Mosi: I got it working... still looking for grub.conf.. :)
[09:25] <notos> im now using Debian sarge
[09:25] <nhaines> mosi: It sounds familiar but I've never needed anything else but menu.lst
[09:26] <mustard5> notos, see if there is anything at this link that is helpful..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[09:26] <j-linux> Mosi: amazing program... very glad that this exists (read Linux partitions from windows)
[09:26] <mustard5> notos, was it plugged in when you installed?
[09:26] <notos> yep
[09:27] <KakiPukul> for a hardware DSL setup... you might need to enabled DHCP client manually or use dpkg-reconfigure... /etc/network/interfaces file to be exact
[09:27] <mustard5> notos, k
[09:27] <notos> it used to be a bridge but i updated the firmware
[09:27] <Mosi> j-linux: thanks to whatsisname for the link :)
[09:27] <notos> so i can use it as a router
[09:27] <nhaines> mosi: it seems that some distros create /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/grub.conf as links to /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:27] <Mosi> j-linux: i didn't know about it either. really no reason why windows wouldn't be able to do that htough, other than that they're lasy and imperialist
[09:27] <mustard5> notos, hmm that page is pretty sparse now I look at it :)
[09:28] <Mosi> nhaines: that could make sense
[09:29] <j-linux> Mosi: I think Microsoft wants to make it as difficult as possible for people do dual boot, or use other operating system.
[09:29] <Mosi> j-linux: they would. scumbags.
[09:29] <nhaines> I just think that Microsoft doesn't really have any reason to write drivers for other OS's file systems.
[09:29] <robbie_> is there any way to use the numerical keypad on my keyboard as a mouse?
[09:29] <nhaines> And especially not if Open Source and commercial ones exist.  :)
[09:30] <mustard5> robin_, there are keyboard options..I just can't recall them atm
[09:30] <nhaines> robbie_: I think there is a package called mousekeys, you should check the Gnome Accessibility applet.
[09:30] <mustard5> robbie_, see above line to the wrong nick :)
[09:30] <Mosi> nhaines: yeah :P but they're only gonna screw themselves in the end. Some day soon Linux is ginally gonna hit the 'friendly enough for average users' mark, and then there will be no rason to stay with microsoft
[09:30] <j-linux> Mosi: any ideas?  I wonder which file tells Ubuntu what hard drive to look for...
[09:31] <nhaines> But not much reason to go to Linux, either, which is the biggest problem, I think.
[09:31] <Mosi> j-linux: did you not find /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:31] <robbie_> aptitude couldnt find anything with mousekeys
[09:31] <Agent_bob> j-linux boot trubble ?
[09:31] <j-linux> Mosi: yeah... I can paste it.  It doesn't seem to have much in it.
[09:31] <nhaines> In any case, that's the time that Microsoft will throw together a extfs driver.  :)
[09:31] <Mosi> nhaines: lack of 400$ licensing fees, superior stability and flexibility, and superior backwards compatability sounds pretty ood to me...
[09:31] <KakiPukul> they don;t have to, nhaines
[09:32] <j-linux> Agent_bob: yes... moved Ubuntu hard drive to a different locaoitn on my computer and now it wont boot.
[09:32] <Mosi> j-linux: the file you're looking for will be small, maybe half a page. can you pastebin it?
[09:32] <Seveas> j-linux, no surprise...
[09:32] <j-linux> Mosi: sure... just a min.
[09:32] <Martolod> is there something special to set in gdmsetup in order to be able to use the "connexion in a nested window" ?
[09:32] <Seveas> j-linux, edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:32] <FlannelKing> j-linux: you probably need to change the hdd number in your grub config
[09:32] <Martolod> Gnome tell me that my gdm isn't fine configured
[09:32] <robbie_> linux needs improvement in sound and printing management then I think itll be as easy to use as windows...you got multiple sound & printing systems competing with each other
[09:32] <Seveas> Martolod, you need to install xnest
[09:33] <notos> mustar5, i used to connect that way before
[09:33] <Martolod> Seveas, it's done
[09:33] <FlannelKing> robbie_: isn't that how most FOSS works?
[09:33] <Agent_bob> j-linux you did adjust /etc/fstab to reflect the change, and reinstall grub from the new local (assumes /boot moved also)  ?
[09:33] <robbie_> half of the sound apps are hard coded for one sound system or the other
[09:33] <robbie_> oss or alsa
[09:33] <robbie_> whats foss?
[09:33] <nhaines> mosi: Yes, but with Windows coming with PCs by default is the determining factor.
[09:33] <Martolod> which Xnest
[09:33] <Martolod> /usr/bin/Xnest
[09:33] <Mosi> Agent_bob: we're working on it :)
[09:33] <FlannelKing> robbie_: its the same way with desktop environments, you just don't notice.
[09:33] <brettzilla>  www.exonotion.com/carpc <- my friend is actually talking to me from this right now.. haha
[09:33] <Seveas> Martolod, then gdmflexiserver --xnest should work
[09:34] <FlannelKing> robbie_: Free & Open Source Software
[09:34] <robbie_> yeah true
[09:34] <robbie_> there should be some kind of standards body I think
[09:34] <Mosi> nhaines: computer illiterate grandparents follow the trend. If businesses start using linux widely, vendor will start shipping it. if vendors ship it, it will be cheaper. if it's cheaper, the end-user will start to migrate.
[09:34] <Agent_bob> mosi ok, i'll go back to lunch then ;)
[09:34] <Mosi> Agent_bob: thanks anyways :P
[09:34] <j-linux> Mosi: hmm... looks like more there than I saw.  Notepad (arrgg..) doesn't handle linux line-termination characters. anyway, here it is: http://pastebin.com/597542
[09:35] <robbie_> or some kind of compatability layer between sound & printing systems
[09:35] <KakiPukul> FlannelKing: : sounds like FLOSS, Free, Lame and Open Source Software, nah just kidding...
[09:35] <nhaines> j-linux, DOS edit command can handle Linux endlines.  :)
[09:35] <j-linux> Agent_bob: I didn't do any of that :S
[09:36] <Martolod> Seveas, no it doesn't :( look at that image : http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1156/screenshot14fb.png
[09:36] <j-linux> I downloaded jEdit... will install that later...
[09:36] <nhaines> Mosi: Yes, that's true, but with no support and so many "borrowed" copies of Windows going around, plus a lock on retail software, well, it's more complicated than that.
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, try Shift + numlock
[09:36] <FlannelKing> KakiPukul: yes, well, I didn't come up with it ;)
[09:36] <robbie_> worked
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, then use the num pad for directions
[09:36] <Ramnath> Im getting an error when i try to unpack winetools
[09:36] <robbie_> thanks for that
[09:36] <mustard5> robbie_, its very slow
[09:36] <mustard5> :)
[09:37] <Ramnath> tar: winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:37] <Seveas> Martolod, interesting - did you mess with gdm.conf manually?
[09:37] <mustard5> robbie_, I had to google it in the end
[09:37] <Martolod> Seveas, no
[09:37] <Ramnath> but it's there on my desktop
[09:37] <mustard5> robbie_, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html
[09:37] <mustard5> robbie_, above link for all options
[09:37] <robbie_> ok
[09:38] <KakiPukul> Ramnath: : are you sure you are on the correct pwd?
[09:38] <Mosi> j-linux: if you go down towards the bottom of the files you can see the boot label entries. Hint: any line that starts with a # is completely ignored by the compiler, so look for blocks of lines without # at the beginning
[09:38] <Ramnath> pwd?
[09:38] <Mosi> j-linux: er, GRUB, not compiler, lol. too many programming classes this semester ^_^
[09:38] <steven_> wow, irssi is a completely different world than xchat
[09:39] <Mosi> Ramnath: Power Word Dookie
[09:39] <j-linux> Mosi: so... Line 105 says root (hd0,0)... do I want to change those lines?
[09:39] <g0dchild> how do i install opera?
[09:39] <Agent_bob> Ramnath present working dir
[09:39] <g0dchild> wait...
[09:39] <Mosi> steven_: fun, eh?
[09:39] <g0dchild> !opera
[09:39] <ubotu> somebody said opera was not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:39] <g0dchild> heh.
[09:39] <j-linux> g0dchild: automatix can install it.
[09:39] <Madpilot> g0dchild, beat me to it :P
[09:39] <Agent_bob> Ramnath or password   heh
[09:39] <Madpilot> !tell j-linux about automatix
[09:39] <Ramnath> present working directory
[09:39] <Seveas> j-linux, automatix is a virus
[09:40] <Seveas> don't use it
[09:40] <j-linux> Madpilot: hmm... thanks for that info...
[09:40] <Ramnath> is that what you mean?
[09:40] <j-linux> Seveas: a virus?
[09:40] <g0dchild> :( it is? how come?
[09:40] <Mosi> j_linux: that's the start of the label section, yes. but don't change that line. What you need to change is the line that starts with kernel.
[09:40] <j-linux> Seveas: what does it do?
[09:40] <Seveas> yes, it has quite a few properties of a virus
[09:40] <KakiPukul> Ramnath, type "pwd", see what directory are you on now? the file is on your home "Desktop" right, you need to cd to that "Desktop" directory firsr :)
[09:40] <j-linux> Seveas: is it malicious software?
[09:40] <linuxmonkey> automatix shouldnt be used, seriously
[09:40] <defrysk> Seveas,  a plague I would say
[09:40] <Seveas> it's horribly destructive, written by a 14-year-old punk who can't program
[09:40] <j-linux> If automatix is bad, it should be removed from the ubuntu forums
[09:40] <Seveas> and does crap to your system beyond belief
[09:40] <Jhair> Seveas: are you talking about php?
[09:41] <Agent_bob> Ramnath there is a veriable set that will show the present working directory   $PWD    Ramnath  (linux standards...)
[09:41] <Seveas> Jhair, no php is heaven compaired to automatix
[09:41] <Seveas> (php still is quite hellish)
[09:41] <g0dchild> i've been using gentoo all this time- but due to a shortage of bandwidth I am being forced to switch to another distro- ubuntu naturally, was the most favoured one- for transitional n00bs like meself-
[09:41] <Jhair> Seveas: ohhh automatix of course :)
[09:41] <Ramnath> i see
[09:41] <nhaines> Hm, that's interesting.  Why am I using XChat over SSH on my Windows machine when I coud have just used irssi?  ;)
[09:41] <Seveas> nhaines, very good question 
[09:41] <Mosi> j-linux: kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash needs to be changed. try changing the root parameter to sdb1, because that seems like a likely one. (kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet splash)
[09:41] <g0dchild> but i do miss the build feature with options....
[09:42] <g0dchild> what has ubuntu got to offer in the way of compensating for custom build options ?
[09:42] <nhaines> Wasn't it Jeff Waugh who recently said in a presentation, "Ubuntu is an ancient African word for 'I'm sick of compiling Gentoo.' "?
[09:42] <Mosi> j-linux: once we figure out what the correct file is, you'll want to change all the label blocks to the correct file, but let's just try the top one until we get the right one
[09:42] <Agent_bob> Ramnath in the irc client type "/exec echo $PWD "
[09:42] <j-linux> Mosi: is that the link 106?
[09:42] <Martolod> Seveas, # the X nest command
[09:42] <Martolod> Xnest=/usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest -br -audit 0 -name Xnest
[09:42] <Martolod>  lol !
[09:42] <j-linux> sorry... line 106
[09:42] <Mosi> j-linux: yes
[09:42] <Martolod> while it is /usr/bin/Xnest !
[09:42] <steven_> ssh from windows?
[09:42] <Madpilot> nhaines, Ubuntu appears to have a number of translations :P
[09:42] <steven_> why?
[09:43] <steven_> nvm haha
[09:43] <nhaines> g0dchild, mostly that things Just Work and that you're not losing more than maybe 2-5% efficiency.
[09:43] <Seveas> Martolod, hmm, is your system perhaps an upgraded hoary system?
[09:43] <Ramnath> yeah
[09:43] <Martolod> Seveas, no, an upgraded breezy to dapper
[09:43] <Ramnath> i found it
[09:43] <Martolod> Seveas, is it possible to reload the gdm config without restart it ?
[09:43] <nhaines> steven_: ssh from Windows is nice because I can work on any computer with any program.  :)
[09:43] <Seveas> Martolod, not that I know of
[09:44] <Martolod> ok
[09:44] <steven_> yeah, i just realized that after I said it. haha
[09:44] <Ramnath> apparently it works now
[09:44] <nhaines> Although I'm working on the pruning and sorting and backing up that'll let me jump entirely to Ubuntu and just run Windows in VMware when I need the two programs that don't work in wine.  :)
[09:44] <Ramnath> thanks for the help
[09:44] <steven_> does the -X work?
[09:45] <j-linux> Mosi: should I just change that line 106 to sdb1 ?
[09:45] <nhaines> And if Windows let me cherrypick the remote apps I wanted like Linux/SSH/Cygwin does, I'd have switched long ago!  :D
[09:45] <j-linux> (backup first of course)
[09:46] <Mosi> j-linux: not the whole line, just change the 'boot=' parameter from 'boot=/dev/sda1' to 'boot=/dev/sdb1'
[09:46] <steven_> OK, for example, you could use putty to ssh into your nix box right,and when you ssh can you -X and get the GUI still?
[09:46] <j-linux> Mosi: ok :)  just a min.
[09:46] <Mosi> j-linux: the only thing you should have to change is one letter, a to b in sda
[09:46] <j-linux> Mosi: ok
[09:46] <nhaines> Yeah.  In fact, on the wiki there's even a howto to use XDMCP and overlay a Gnome desktop, so you can use proggies from both environments seamlessly!  :D
[09:47] <g0dchild> nhaines, even so- i am often used to strip down the applications to only those  functions i'd need - notwithstanding, ubuntu seems to be good in its own way- i suppose
[09:47] <KakiPukul> just enables XDMCP with GDM login manager right?
[09:47] <steven_> WOW, I did not realize that.  Thanks for the info.
[09:47] <nhaines> It doesn't work for me (doubtless a problem with my Cygwin/X config) but SSH'ing in and running proggies is almost as good.
[09:48] <nhaines> That's how I'm running XChat and typing here right now.  :D
[09:48] <FlannelKing> XDMCP uses UDP, so it won't work through most routers.  Just on LANs
[09:48] <brettzilla> i just realized when trying to install the ATI graphics drivers for ubuntu, i get an error saying my xorg is 7.0 when the packager was meant for i think 6.8
[09:49] <steven_> FlannelKing, couldn't you port route for UDP in your router?
[09:49] <j-linux> Mosi: I'm trying to read how to write, and it's saying that it's a bit experiemental and can ruin your data if it crashes.  I should probably do it with Knoppix... :S
[09:49] <KakiPukul> isn't it what XDCMP supposed to do... local access only?
[09:49] <Whatsisname> you don't need XDMCP to use other applications
[09:49] <Whatsisname> just use X11 forwarding
[09:49] <jetscreamer> write what, ntfs? don't.
[09:49] <j-linux> Mosi... or maybe I can download puppy linux, burn it to my usb and use it...
[09:49] <FlannelKing> steven_: I dont know.  havent tried.
[09:49] <KakiPukul> btw you can reroute the connection
[09:49] <Mosi> j-linux: probably :/
[09:49] <j-linux> jetscreamer: write ex2 with windows :S
[09:50] <steven_> I set up a ssh and could still get X11 from non-local IP
[09:50] <FlannelKing> Whatsisname: yeah, but to log into your desktop completely, its rather sexy.
[09:50] <Mosi> j-linux: also, keep in mind you have two problems going on here
[09:50] <jetscreamer> boot a kanotix cd
[09:50] <anto9us> ssh can tunnel through and map ports to machines
[09:50] <Mosi> j-linux: the second problem is that your jumpers on your drives are set wrong, you need the windows drive to be set as slave and the linux drive to be master
[09:50] <Ramnath> the winetools program is unpacked but im not sure how to install it
[09:50] <anto9us> router is irrelevant
[09:50] <anto9us> other than letting 22 get to a target linux box
[09:51] <nhaines_> Oh sure, as *soon* as I say something, it dies.  :)
[09:51] <Mosi> j-linux or you need to install grub in the master boot record of the windows drive, and i'm not sure if that will work without a linux distro on that drive
[09:51] <nhaines_> XDCMP is not secure really.
[09:51] <j-linux> Mosi: how appropriate
[09:51] <mustard5> Ramnath, no README or INSTALL file?
[09:51] <anto9us> nhaines, everything is secure over ssh
[09:51] <j-linux> (linux = master, windows = slave)
[09:51] <Ramnath> install.sh
[09:51] <anto9us> look at -L option
[09:51] <nhaines_> Very true, anto.
[09:51] <No1Viking> Some days ago the kernel was updated to 2.6.15-18-686. I still have 2.6.15-17-686 and it seem that the kernel was not changed. What can I do about it?
[09:51] <Mosi> j-linux: i assume there's a reason you can't just put the linux drive back where it was, and put the windows drive in the CD tray slot?
[09:51] <Ramnath> but nothing happens when i excute it
[09:51] <Agent_bob> trying to fix linux from windows is a little like whining to your big sister to stop picking on you,  it may work but why go through all that trubble....
[09:52] <nhaines_> It is okay to install GRUB on a Windows machine.  It is not okay to delete your Linux partition after you do that, though.  ;)
[09:52] <nhaines_> Err, a Windows drive, I mean, not machine.
[09:52] <j-linux> Mosi: apparently Windows doesn't like being in the secondary hd slot.  I'm trying to avoid hours of trying to get this to work :S
[09:52] <Mosi> j-linux: isn't it already too late for that? :P
[09:52] <j-linux> Mosi: I was avpiding that option becuase it involves some strange configurations...
[09:52] <bestadvocate> help!
[09:52] <bestadvocate> my computer just turned orange!
[09:52] <kosnick> if i have a yahoo account can i use gaim for instant messanger ?
[09:52] <j-linux> Mosi: yeah... I think it is...
[09:52] <steven_> exit
[09:52] <bestadvocate> kosnick: yes you can
[09:52] <Seveas> bestadvocate, squeeze and and drink the juice ;)
[09:53] <steven_> oops.
[09:53] <nhaines_> bestadvocate: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:53] <ajopaul> quit
[09:53] <Mosi> j-linux: multi-booting usually requires strange configureations anyways ^_^;
[09:53] <bestadvocate> dapper
[09:53] <Seveas> nhaines, dapper - obviously ;)
[09:53] <nhaines_> bestadvocate: the new Dapper theme is very orange in places.  ;)
[09:53] <kosnick> bestadvocate : could you plz explain ? i have tried but no works
[09:53] <bestadvocate> I think i still like warty's theme the best
[09:53] <linuxmonkey> !dapper
[09:53] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:53] <nhaines_> Actually, I do like it.  :)  But I'm sure they'll tone it down a little.
[09:53] <KakiPukul> I wonder about Dapper's official CD cover? more people?
[09:53] <Mosi> j-linux: i feel like a gimp for not saying this before, but the easiest thing to do would probably be just to switch your drives around wihtout ediitng the grub file, so linux boots normally. then just add a working windows boot label to the grub file so you can boot to windows from that menu.
[09:53] <milamber> hello everyone,
[09:54] <Mosi> j-linux: unless you know windows won't boot that way
[09:54] <nhaines_> Windows should boot that way--it registers the drive letters by serial number.
[09:54] <milamber> someone knows how to open password encrypted pps files in ubuntu, if possible with ooops
[09:55] <nhaines_> bestadvocate: nothing for it but to change to another theme than Human.  :)
[09:55] <j-linux> Mosi: I think that Windows won't work that way without some strange configuring.  I'll have to look into it.  I need to check if this cafe is closing in 5 min or if it stays open late tonight :S
[09:55] <bestadvocate> KakiPukul: a diverse bunch of Suit warring people
[09:55] <bestadvocate> this is the buisness edition
[09:55] <Mosi> j-linux: i know for a fact it normally works fine that way, but when you're using a laptop and an external hard drive adapter, it might not work the normal way. you never know. :(
[09:55] <bestadvocate> does anyone know where you can find packages for the old versions of the Human themes?
[09:55] <milamber> @linuxmonkey u were saing sometyhing yesterday buth i cant find it in my logs, pls repeat mesg pc went down due power failure
[09:56] <j-linux> Mosi: hmmm... Maybe I will just try that then...
[09:56] <nhaines_> bestadvocate: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <Mosi> j-linux: if you can't just do that, you have two other options. either install grub on the windows partition, which i don't remember how to do, but is not terribly hard, just a little arcane
[09:56] <j-linux> Mosi: I would rather have Linux be in my main hard drive slot anyway...
[09:56] <Ramnath> To install WineTools extract the archive in a temporary directory and call
[09:56] <Ramnath> "./install" as user "root". WineTools will get installed at
[09:56] <Ramnath> /usr/local/winetools.
[09:56] <linuxmonkey> milamber, regarding what?
[09:56] <bestadvocate> i think they may be the last versions of a brown system theme for a while,
[09:56] <milamber> newsservers/readers
[09:56] <Mosi> j-linux: or you can just have it boot from the slave drive, and have a grub boot label that points to windows
[09:57] <linuxmonkey> oh ya here let me pm ya
[09:57] <milamber> k
[09:57] <Mosi> j-linux: er, boot form the secondary drive (which means making it the master)
[09:57] <j-linux> Mosi: so if I move Linux back to its normal spot, should I set it as slave or master?
[09:58] <Mosi> j-linux: if you move Linux back to it's normal spot, just about everything is already set up perfect, except you need a way to make grub jump the boot process to the other drive. which basically just means adding a label to point to windows.
[09:58] <mustard5> Ramnath, check that the install script has executable permission?
[09:58] <Lani2> I'm running ubuntu in a Microsoft Virtual PC enviorment, if I give the ubuntu instance more than 512MB of memory it locks upp while booting. Do I need to change some setting when hanging the amount of RAM the system has?
[09:58] <bestadvocate> i got to change my firefox theme, it does not jive with the new Human
[09:58] <Martolod> how can i create a team in the "ubuntu translatos group" in rosetta ?
[09:58] <j-linux> Mosi: ok... I'll do that after I get home (no tools here at the cafe)...
[09:58] <nhaines_> Lani2, it should be automatically detected.
[09:59] <Mosi> j-linux: if you put the linux drive back in place, you don't need to mess with line 106 in the grub file, or the jumpers on the drive, but you need to edit the boot label in the grub file that starts at line 158 (the very last one, for XP) so it boots windows corectly
[10:00] <Mosi> j-linux: sorry for wasting several hours of your time trying to figure out just what was going on ^_^; i'm rather spacy today, i was up for 39 hours yesterday and the day before
[10:00] <j-linux> Mosi: so I don't have to change the jumpers on either hard drive?
[10:00] <bestadvocate> nhaines: i dont think just installing the old package will work.
[10:00] <Mosi> j-linux: you may have to change the jumpers on your windows hard drive to be a primary slave. can you tell me what the manufacturer and model on it is?
[10:00] <nhaines_> Probably not, but that's where you find them.
[10:01] <j-linux> Mosi: you aren't wasting any of my time... Thanks for you assistance... I'm learning a lot about hard drives :)
[10:01] <Lani2> nhaines_: ok, it could be some strange Virtual PC behavior, but I find it works when I set the memory to 512MB but not above. The memtest option in the boot menu works and gives no errors.
[10:01] <Mosi> j-linux: no problem :)
[10:01] <j-linux> Mosi: sounds like you need some sleep...
[10:01] <Mosi> j-linux: i got 11 hours last night, but you can't make up for a run like that in one night.
[10:01] <nhaines_> What does memtest say if you use more than 512MB?
[10:02] <j-linux> Mosi: Are you in the US?  It must be late there.
[10:02] <Mosi> j-linux: yeah. it's 1 here.
[10:02] <j-linux> Mosi... west coast?
[10:02] <bestadvocate> j-linux, its 4 in the morning here
[10:02] <Lani2> nhaines_: it reports the correct amount of ram and doesn't give any error
[10:02] <nhaines_> Hm, how do I tell Ubuntu (dapper) to use eth0 (or anything) as the default gateway?
[10:02] <Mosi> j-linux: yep, Cali, south of San Francisco
[10:03] <j-linux> Honolulu here... still early...
[10:03] <nhaines_> Lani2, I'm not sure what to say, then.  It may be a Virtual PC problem.  Better not to use more than 512MB.
[10:03] <Mosi> j-linux: it's what.. 10 PM there?
[10:03] <j-linux> 11
[10:03] <Mosi> j-linux: oh yeah, you guys don't use DST, do you?
[10:03] <j-linux> no...
[10:03] <Mosi> j-linux: that always confuses me :P
[10:03] <nhaines_> It's not DST yet, is it?
[10:04] <Agent_bob> no
[10:04] <Mosi> j-linux: anyways, can you get inside your case to tell me what the model of your hard drives is? i'll check them both, just to be sure.
[10:04] <Lani2> nhaines_: Yeah, the only solution that I have so far, but Eclipse really eats memory ;)
[10:04] <nhaines_> Oh, that's right, I was going to kill my ghost.  :)
[10:05] <Mosi> nhaines_: lol. the fact that it exists means that half the year it's 2 horus difference from hawaii and the other half it's 3 hours. i don't remember which is which most of the ime.
[10:05] <nhaines> Ahhhh.  :)
[10:05] <milamber> nowbuddy nows howto open password encrypted files without ms-powerpoint ?
[10:05] <Mosi> milamber: XXD ;P
[10:06] <Mosi> It will become abundantly clear...!
[10:06] <nhaines> milamber, if you cannot open it in OOo, then you should save it witout a password in PowerPoint first.
[10:06] <bestadvocate> milamber: ask mr. powerpoint to open it
[10:07] <Mosi> j-linux: any luck?
[10:07] <KakiPukul> milamber: : there are a lot of MS Office document cracker out there... just Search for it...
[10:07] <bestadvocate> anyone else notice a Rhythmbox running much less efficiently since its dapper "upgrades"?
[10:08] <Seveas> few floods incoming, sorry for the inconvenience
[10:10] <Seveas> all done 
[10:10] <bestadvocate> yay Seveas!
[10:10] <kusmuk> hey. I have a simple question for you guys; I need to reinstall XP in C: but I think it will clean grub.
[10:10] <KakiPukul> "tsu"
[10:10] <kusmuk> so I need ubuntu boot diskettes if I need to boot.
[10:10] <Seveas> kusmuk, it will indeed
[10:10] <kusmuk> how can I create boot diskettes for ubuntu?
[10:10] <Seveas> !+grub
[10:10] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:10] <nhaines> That's right, kusmuk, it will.  :)
[10:10] <Seveas> kusmuk, check the above links
[10:11] <j-linux_> sorry... windows crashed on me... :S
[10:11] <Seveas> j-linux, how surprising ;)
[10:11] <Agent_bob> there is also an app  grub-disk  iirc
[10:11] <kusmuk> sveas, is there a quick utility to create boot diskettes?
[10:11] <jetscreamer> blame the admin
[10:11] <kusmuk> without grub even.
[10:11] <KakiPukul> makeboot... kusmuk
[10:11] <messi[ah] > good morning all.. i also have a question ;) installing via aptitude is really nice, cuz files are automatically stored in the right directorys.. but how do i, when i compile a program which isnt available via aptitude ? in which dir(s) must it be stored ?
[10:11] <kusmuk> grub-disk, hmm.
[10:11] <jetscreamer> grub-floppy
[10:12] <kusmuk> grub-floppy, makeboot. too many choices (:
[10:12] <bestadvocate> i have multiple windows open right now, but I dont reccomend running on a window
[10:12] <KakiPukul> choose. kusmuk :)
[10:12] <coyctecm> How stable flight 5 is? safe to dist-upgrade?
[10:12] <Mosi> j-linux: how poetic :P
[10:12] <KakiPukul> any of them works
[10:12] <j-linux_> Mosi:  You asked a question about my hard drives?
[10:12] <CaptainMorgan> .jpg is an unrecognized file format??? wtf?
[10:12] <CaptainMorgan> when did this happen?
[10:12] <Mosi> j-linux: can you check to see what the model on your hard drives is, or can you not open your case without tools?
[10:12] <nhaines> coyctecm, flight CDs are attempts at a relatively stable snapshot of the current development phase.  :)
[10:12] <Seveas> coyctecm, at the moment not - openoffice localizations are broken
[10:12] <j-linux_> Mosi: the original one is hitachi 60gb 5400
[10:13] <eradik> hello everyone. I just installed Ubuntu, and either I didnt see it or it didnt show it, but I did not get a chance to set my root password.. how can I do this?
[10:13] <j-linux_> The new one is probably hitachi 40gb 5400
[10:13] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[10:13] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:13] <messi[ah] > eradik
[10:13] <FlannelKing> read that eradik
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> !ubotu .jpg
[10:13] <messi[ah] > rtfm
[10:13] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> !ubotu jpg
[10:13] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:13] <j-linux_> Mosi: ata
[10:13] <eradik> thank you
[10:13] <eradik> :)
[10:13] <coyctecm> Seveas: Ok. Thanks. I think i'll stick with breezy until official release :)
[10:13] <Seveas> !tell messi[ah]  about conduct
[10:13] <nhaines> I usually switch at either the beta or the RC.
[10:14] <nhaines> Although now that I have a new laptop, the ancient one has dapper!  :D
[10:14] <j-linux_> Mosi: hts541060g9at00
[10:14] <nhaines> <-- masochist.
[10:14] <j-linux_> Mosi: that is the ubuntu drive... the windows one is being used.
[10:15] <FlannelKing> nhaines: if youre looking to get rid of that laptop.... ;)
[10:15] <Mosi> do you know which one it is: Ultrastar, Deskstar, Travelstar, Endurastar, Microdrive, DK23xx, or DK32xx?
[10:15] <Mosi> that's all i can find on their website
[10:15] <messi[ah] > sry Seveas :/
[10:15] <nhaines> FlannelKing, it's 450MHz PIII with 128MB RAM and a 6GB hardrive.  ;)
[10:15] <FlannelKing> nhaines: my current laptop is a PI with 40mb ram and a 2GB HD ;)
[10:15] <Mosi> j-linux: those are the only product lines listed
[10:15] <j-linux_> Mosi: I think it is travelstar.
[10:16] <j-linux_> Mosi: hts541060g9at00  -- that is the model number
[10:16] <nhaines> Hehe, impressive!  ;)
[10:16] <Agent_bob> my present lappy is 486 with 20m ram 256m hdd  duel booting linux 2.4  and  win95  hehhe   next.
[10:17] <KakiPukul> it is a Travelstar
[10:17] <nhaines> If I can get my 386 up and running again... it's a 33MHz 386SX with 6MB RAM and a 1.27GB harddrive (had to upgrade from 80MB, heh).
[10:17] <nhaines> A fine candidate for a thin client!
[10:17] <FlannelKing> yeah, mines got 8mb with the 32mb expansion card.
[10:18] <kusmuk> kakipukul : I have no suck command like makeboot, and grub-floppy crashes down.
[10:18] <kusmuk> kakipukul : Can't find /lib/grub/*-*/stage1, aborting
[10:18] <Agent_bob> nhaines that should run basic-linux
[10:19] <matthew> whats the best way to upgrade to firefox 1.5?
[10:19] <Lani2> Are there any special reason for that only version 1.0.7 of mozilla Firefox is included in the repository and not version 1.5.0.1?
[10:19] <nhaines> Agent_bob, I have a copy of Debian 0.93 on CD here...  :)
[10:19] <Lani2> matthew: ;)
[10:19] <tott> anyone got a min? getting problems when i try to install BitcX, while running the ./configure command..
[10:19] <matthew> haha same question.. i just signed on here
[10:19] <Hysty> Lani2, yes there is
[10:19] <sYs^> Hi, i've got a question, i just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15.6 (which has no devfs) and now i  can't mount my other hdd-s , it seems like i should use udev , i already istalled it (apt-get install udev) but who could get my system to use that?
[10:20] <Lani2> Hysty: ok? ;)
[10:20] <nhaines> Lani2: much depends on firefox (like grub-help, I think), and they tried to backport 1.5 officially but it broke things.
[10:20] <matthew> so is it best to keep firefox 1.0.7?
[10:20] <Lani2> nhaines: ah ok :/
[10:20] <nhaines> Yes, you must keep it, but there's no reason you can't install 1.5 alongside.
[10:20] <Hysty> Lani2, i just installed it to a seperate directory ran that instead of the default 1.0.7
[10:21] <Agent_bob> sYs^  sudo /etc/init.d/udev start     maybe ?
[10:21] <unimatrix9> its a bit strange
[10:21] <unimatrix9> the new ubuntu dapper live cd
[10:21] <sYs^> hmm, mom, i think i tried that already, but i'll try it again ^^
[10:21] <matthew> whats the best way to go about installing 1.5.0.1
[10:21] <nhaines> Typically, Ubuntu freezes software version (like dapper was frozen a couple weeks ago) and sticks with that version until the next release.
[10:21] <KakiPukul> !ff1.5
[10:21] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:21] <nhaines> It keeps things from breaking randomly.
[10:22] <orangehaw> tott: this program is in repositories. No need to compile it by hand
[10:22] <Lani2> Hysty: ok, thanks
[10:22] <Lani2> ubotu: thank you
[10:22] <ubotu> pas de quoi, Lani2
[10:22] <matthew> i had trouble installing to the opt folder
[10:22] <Agent_bob> sYs^ is hotplug running might need to restart it ?
[10:22] <Mosi> j-linux: ok, that took a while, but you don't need to change the jumpers on your linux drive :P
[10:22] <sYs^> hmm
[10:22] <tott> orangehaw: aaw.. ok, thanks.. i'll try that..
[10:22] <Lani2> ubotu: I'm sorry, I don't understand?
[10:22] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Lani2
[10:22] <FlannelKing> Lani2: ubotu is a bot.
[10:22] <Mosi> j-linux: i thought you wouldn't but i wanted to be sure. some manufacturers require different settings for "master (only drive)" and "master with slave present"
[10:22] <unimatrix9> whats wrong with firefox?
[10:23] <Lani2> hahaha
[10:23] <Lani2> ok, hehe
[10:23] <sYs^> i dunno, i'm installed kubuntu yesterday i never used it before, so im really noob :p sorry
[10:23] <sYs^> what should i do?:p
[10:23] <j-linux_> Mosi: thanks for checking... so I should just leave everything with the default hard drive settings?
[10:23] <unimatrix9> and master with cable select
[10:23] <sYs^> i tried udev start but it wreites: RUNNING THIS COMMAND IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED! :>
[10:23] <nhaines> matthew, try using sudo while installing.
[10:23] <unimatrix9> and cable select only...
[10:24] <unimatrix9> :)
[10:24] <nhaines> No, cable select is always evil!
[10:24] <unimatrix9> yeah thats true\
[10:24] <matthew> nhaines, ok i'll try it
[10:25] <Agent_bob> i'm really sorry sYs^ i should have kept my mouth shut.  i shouldn't even be here.   i've got a bad case of newbee burn out.
[10:25] <Mosi> j-linux: with the exception of that you want to edit the Windows XP entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst so it points to your windows partition. i'm not sure exatly what that will look like, but you can probably find info on it by googling for "grub label windows" or some such.
[10:25] <sYs^> Agent_bob: eh, thx.
[10:25] <unimatrix9> have you read the ubuntu disclaimer? this software comes with no garanty at all as far as appliciable by law...
[10:25] <unimatrix9> or something like that
[10:25] <unimatrix9> lOL
[10:25] <Mosi> j-linux: you will probably want to change the jumpers on the windows drive to "Primary slave"
[10:26] <nhaines> Yess, unimatrix9, that's a standard GPL disclaimer.
[10:26] <Mosi> j-linux: to find out what that setting looks like, find out the model and manufacturer, and go to the maker's website and go to the support section, look for technical docs. most manufacturers have all that info on their site.
[10:26] <j-linux_> Mosi: sounds appropriate... I'll try that..
[10:26] <unimatrix9> ah, he is making windows the " slave' hehe
[10:27] <Mosi> j-linux: failing that, try googling for the model number of the drive, and the word 'jumper'
[10:27] <Mosi> j-linux: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5k100/5k100jum.htm
[10:27] <Mosi> j-linux: just for reference. that's the jumper page for your linux drive.
[10:27] <j-linux_> Mosi: thanks... I bookmarked it.
[10:28] <Agent_bob> unimatrix9 the same "no warntee" line is in M$ EULA.  it's worded a bit differently of course.
[10:28] <Mosi> j-linux: no problem, i hope that works everything out :)
[10:28] <jetscreamer> the hd 'should' have a picture on it btw
[10:28] <Mosi> j-linux: sorry i couldn't get everything workign for you ^_^
[10:28] <Mosi> j-linux: jetscreamer has a point, some drives have the jumper info right on the case label
[10:29] <jetscreamer> 'some' do not though
[10:29] <Mosi> mine does not :P
[10:29] <j-linux_> Mosi: it has some info about the jumper on the label, but I didn't read it... didn't know what it meant, but I'll look it up in Google.
[10:29] <Mosi> but that's because it's Apple OEM, so it's cracky
[10:29] <Mosi> j-linux: good luck then
[10:29] <jetscreamer> udev 2.6 and initrd btw
[10:30] <jetscreamer> fun eh
[10:30] <Mosi> j-linux: i should really sleep, i need to get my schedule back on track before class next monday :P
[10:30] <j-linux_> Mosi:  Thanks again for your help... have a good night...
[10:30] <matthew> matthew@ubuntu:/home$ sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[10:30] <Mosi> j-linux: you too, and no problem ^_^
[10:30] <matthew> i tried that and got an error no such file or directory
[10:30] <matthew> after installing the tar.gz file to the home directory
[10:31] <jetscreamer> matt_: xvzf
[10:31] <mustard5> j-linux_, I've been trying to work out what you have both been doing, you got time to explain the issue?
[10:31] <jetscreamer> no spaces, no -'s
[10:31] <nhaines> Take care, mosi.  :)
[10:31] <Agent_bob> matthew so is  firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz  in /opt ?
[10:31] <j-linux_> mustard5: I put my ubuntu hard drive into a thinkpad ultradrive... so it's not where it was originally... won't boot now.
[10:31] <matthew> now it says you must specify one of the '-Acdtrux' options
[10:32] <matthew> no it's not
[10:32] <matthew> its in Home
[10:32] <nhaines> matthew, it's not in your home directory?
[10:32] <jetscreamer> wouldn't you want it in /usr/src btw
[10:32] <j-linux_> mustard5:  long story...  I think I am done with it for tonight...11:30pm here.  I think there is another solution that I am going to try in the morning :S
[10:32] <jetscreamer> you want to INSTALL it to /opt
[10:32] <mustard5> j-linux_, k :)
[10:32] <j-linux_> thanks though :)
[10:33] <matthew> oh so i have to move it to /opt
[10:33] <nhaines> jetscreamer, he has a binary installer I think.
[10:33] <jetscreamer> no, but you could i 'guess'
[10:33] <Agent_bob>        -C, --directory DIR
[10:33] <Agent_bob>               change to directory DIR
[10:33] <Agent_bob> if you use that you do.
[10:33] <jetscreamer> he's trying to just unpack it afaict
[10:33] <jetscreamer> then do 'something'
[10:34] <nhaines> Yes, but why would he unpack binaries to /usr/src?
[10:34] <jetscreamer> why would a tar have binaries... wouldn't it be a .bin ?
[10:34] <j-linux_> goodnight all...
[10:34] <nhaines> It's a gzipped tarfile.
[10:35] <jetscreamer> yeah yeah
[10:35] <matthew> it says i dont have permission to write to opt
[10:35] <jetscreamer> go figure
[10:35] <onkarshinde> jetscreamer: I guess he has downloaded directly from mozilla website
[10:35] <nhaines> You have to use sudo, matthew.
[10:35] <jetscreamer> i think he has source, myself
[10:35] <Agent_bob> correct.   so prepend sudo
[10:35] <jetscreamer> but i'll back off
[10:35] <onkarshinde> matthew: 'sudo'
[10:35] <thunderbird> what is the command to give permission to execute files? have forgotten it;)
[10:35] <jetscreamer> chmod +x ?
[10:35] <thunderbird> thnx
[10:36] <matthew> whats the command to change the folder its in then
[10:36] <uros> hello
[10:36] <uros> anybody now how to zoom picture in vlc player
[10:36] <mustard5> sudo mv sourcefilepath destinationfilepath
[10:37] <g0dchild> ok, at the end of the synaptic update i am getting an exit error from the edubuntu installation script- any ideas? a bug perhaps?
[10:37] <Agent_bob> jetscreamer i tend to agree, it probably is source,  and if so will need to build in ~  but  somethimes it's easier just to answer the question and move on....
[10:37] <nhaines> I just checked mozilla.com.  The current download for Linux is named firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz and I just untarred it.  It's binaries.
[10:38] <g0dchild> errm...excuse me- but has anyone experienced anything like this? :(
[10:39] <nhaines> I have not, g0dchild.
[10:39] <onkarshinde> g0dchild: Are there any broken packages?
[10:39] <mustard5> g0dchild, can you pastebin the error?
[10:39] <Agent_bob> nhaines so i could use that on this 2.4 sustem.   heh but why.
[10:40] <nhaines> Agent_bob, all I know is that he has a binary download, not a source one.  :)
[10:41] <g0dchild> mustard5, afraid not- in the haste, i closed the console window
[10:41] <mustard5> g0dchild, k
[10:41] <bigfoot1> i'm reading http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=913. so after dapper is released, there will be no new ubuntu for 5 years?
[10:42] <mustard5> g0dchild, so when you say update, do you mean upgrading packages?
[10:42] <mustard5> bigfoot1, no
[10:42] <nhaines> bigfoot1, every 6 months.  But Dapper will be supported for 5 years.
[10:42] <nhaines> So you can run a server using Dapper and get security updates for 5 years, basically, without having to upgrade.
[10:43] <matthew> ok i finally got the firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz file in the opt folder
[10:43] <nhaines> Only 3 years for desktop packages.  :)
[10:43] <defrysk> desktopsuppert for 3 years
[10:43] <matthew> but i accidentally lost my home/matthew folder because i moved it then when i tried moving it back i cant find it now
[10:43] <matthew> i'm so bad at this
[10:43] <bigfoot1> why would anyone want to stick to dapper when a newerubuntu would be made available?
[10:44] <jetscreamer> sudo updatedb && sudo locate matthew
[10:44] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: This is specifically for corporate environments.
[10:44] <Agent_bob> nhaines really, you mean it wont be like all the other ubuntu "worthless crap" in 3 months ?
[10:44] <nhaines> bigfoot1, because you can't afford to take down a working server and upgrade without knowing for certain it will work again.
[10:44] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: In my company, we still use Win 2k
[10:44] <nhaines> Agent_bob, I don't really appreciate being spoken to in that tone.
[10:44] <Jhair> bigfoot1: because some people use it in production servers and can take the risk of shutdown critical applications without reason?
[10:44] <Jhair> s/can/can't
[10:44] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: And even Redhat 9
[10:45] <Agent_bob> onkarshinde in my country we still use win95 :)
[10:45] <nhaines> bigfoot1, so if you know that you're covered with security updates and support for 5 years, you can feel confident to use Ubuntu 6.04 Server when it comes out.  :)
[10:45] <ChaKy> What's the name of the new icons from Dapper herehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUbuntuIcons. I mean, what's the package name?
[10:45] <nhaines> ooh, that's a good question.
[10:45] <bigfoot1> ok.
[10:45] <vladuz976> did firefox repos update to 1.5
[10:45] <vladuz976> ?
[10:46] <defrysk> no
[10:46] <matthew> jetscreamer i tried that and i still dont understand
[10:46] <onkarshinde> vladuz976: which repos? breezy or dapper?
[10:46] <vladuz976> onkarshinde: breezy
[10:46] <mustard5> vladuz976, not in breezy
[10:46] <vladuz976> oh wow, still not?
[10:46] <mustard5> vladuz976, it won't be happening I dont think
[10:46] <matthew> it says /Home/.nautilus/metafiles/file:%2F%2F%2Fhome%2Fmatthew.xml
[10:46] <nhaines> Is it gnome-humility-icon-theme ?
[10:46] <mustard5> vladuz976, it is dapper though
[10:47] <joelbryan> why does the current gnome-vfs is striipped down? start-here:, all-applications: doesn't work anymore.
[10:47] <onkarshinde> ChaKy: I guess that is 'Tango' icon set
[10:47] <xstation> hey
[10:47] <vladuz976> mustard5: i am not sure if i wanna go for dapper, yet
[10:47] <vladuz976> how much longer til dapper?
[10:47] <defrysk> vladuz976, packages in stable ubuntu versions wil only be upgraded for security reasons
[10:47] <ChaKy> onkarshinde: thanks
[10:47] <mustard5> vladuz976, now is not a good time for using dapper no :)
[10:47] <mustard5> vladuz976, you can manually install firefox to the latest version
[10:47] <vladuz976> mustard5: when do you think it'll become semi stable?
[10:47] <thunderbird_> have some trouble with installing superkaramba:S
[10:47] <mustard5> !firefox15
[10:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:48] <onkarshinde> vladuz976: According to latest developments, Dapper may be delayed
[10:48] <matthew> i lost my  home/matthew folder
[10:48] <vladuz976> onkarshinde: really? why and for how long?
[10:48] <mustard5> vladuz976, I wouldnt use it until a little while after the stable release
[10:48] <xstation> Am I missing something just installed openssl from source but now cannot find it at the prompt configure make and make install from desktop
[10:48] <nhaines> Six weeks, vladuz976.
[10:48] <mustard5> vladuz976, mind you I run it on another partition already
[10:48] <vladuz976> mustard5: oh even after tha
[10:48] <Agent_bob> matthew do you have a terminal open ?
[10:48] <matthew> yeah
[10:48] <spikeb> :)
[10:48] <xstation> mustard5: hello
[10:48] <mustard5> vladuz976, thats just my opinion though :)
[10:49] <mustard5> xstation, greetings
[10:49] <onkarshinde> vladuz976: Mark Shuttleworth has proposed the delay of 6 weeks. Let me find the posting
[10:49] <Agent_bob> matthew sudo find / -name .bashrc
[10:49] <jetscreamer> matthew: 'should' tell you where your old homedir is... substitute the real name of the dir...
[10:49] <jetscreamer> just do what Agent_bob said
[10:49] <xstation> mustard5: take a look at my question
[10:50] <spikeb> if the delay doesn't effect the release schedule from here on out, i don't see the big deal
[10:50] <Agent_bob> matthew how many results you got on that ?    (hope 2)
[10:50] <matthew> haha well its searching my external hard drive
[10:51] <Jesse> hey everybody
[10:51] <mustard5> xstation, you mean you can't find the command to execute from terminal?
[10:51] <messi[ah] > gtk is a c compiler ?
[10:51] <matthew> let me try again
[10:51] <Jesse> I have a question about installation of ubuntu5.10
[10:51] <Jesse> wondering if anybody would be willing to spare a few moments
[10:51] <onkarshinde> messi[ah] : No. GTK is a ui library (toolkit)
[10:51] <xstation> mustard5: openssl command not found
[10:51] <matthew> it says WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.
[10:51] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Ask the question
[10:51] <messi[ah] > mh ok tx onkarshinde
[10:52] <mustard5> xstation, try typing just open and then hit tab completion and see what options it shows
[10:52] <onkarshinde> vladuz976: Here you go. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html
[10:52] <Agent_bob> matthew  sudo / -xdev -name .bashrc       it should stay on the root system.
[10:52] <Jesse> lol this may  seem like a newb question, I apologize
[10:52] <Whatsisname> just shoot
[10:52] <Whatsisname> worst that happens is noone answers
[10:53] <Agent_bob> errr crap.   sudo find / -xdev -name .bashrc
[10:53] <matthew> ok it gave me 3 things
[10:53] <Agent_bob> boy am i like too many hours at the key board...
[10:53] <matthew> /etc/skel/.bashrc      /root/.bashrc      /Home/.bashrc
[10:53] <Agent_bob> ok
[10:53] <Agent_bob> and the one in /root
[10:53] <Agent_bob> and ?
[10:54] <matthew> one in Home
[10:54] <matthew> with an upper case H
[10:54] <matthew> maybe thats what i did wrong
[10:54] <Agent_bob>   /Home/.bashrc  yep.
[10:54] <Jesse> during installation, and I mean 5-10 seconds into the install, after it detects my cd-rom drives, I see in the documentation it should then start to detect my network card and such, but instead it just creates a white line at the bottom which allows me to type , but I do not know of any commands which would let it continue, i'm guessing for some reason the installer froze or is hanging on that certain point
[10:54] <matthew> i'm glad this irc channel is here i'd be back to windows only :)
[10:55] <xstation> mustard5  open then space and enter got this Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:55] <Agent_bob> now matthew    sudo  mv /Home  /home/matthew
[10:55] <matthew> so i'm trying: sudo mv /Home/matthew /home
[10:55] <matthew> oh
[10:55] <Whatsisname> Jesse, rerun the installer, when it gets to the white line hit escape and see what happens, if a menu of 'steps' pops up, post what step its at
[10:55] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Why don't you just try pressing enter
[10:55] <Agent_bob> if you run along ahead you get ran over.  stay in time here.
[10:55] <mustard5> xstation, I was more thinking use the TAB key to give you a list of commands that start with 'open' :)
[10:55] <matthew> great it works now
[10:56] <Agent_bob> your welcome. matthew
[10:56] <xstation> mustard5 ok
[10:56] <matthew> thank you!
[10:56] <Jesse> oh trust me I have tryed all the 'common keys' escape just brings up like '[12' or somthing similar
[10:56] <matthew> agent_bob can you help me install firefox 1.5.0.1 now? :)  I have it in the opt folder
[10:56] <Whatsisname> what version of ubuntu are you trying to install
[10:56] <Whatsisname> 5.10?
[10:56] <onkarshinde> Jesse: What else do you see on screen?
[10:57] <Jesse> yes 5.10
[10:57] <Agent_bob> matthew sudo -i
[10:57] <xstation> mustard5 here is what I got    open    openvt
[10:57] <Jesse> onkarshinde: all I see is a blue screen with the horizontal grey bar at the bottom
[10:57] <matthew> ok, root@ubuntu
[10:57] <Agent_bob> matthew cd /opt
[10:57] <Whatsisname> jesse: what is your experience with linux in general
[10:57] <mustard5> xstation, I have never really used openssl, so I'm pretty much out of ideas atm :)
[10:57] <matthew> ok
[10:57] <Whatsisname> brb I have to grab my lasagna out of the oven
[10:57] <Jesse> minimal
[10:57] <Jesse> :(
[10:57] <Agent_bob> matthew tar -xzvf *
[10:58] <xstation> mustard5: ok I ask in the forum
[10:58] <matthew> ok it looks like it installed
[10:58] <matthew> extracted i mena
[10:58] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Is there any way you can post some screenshot (taken from some camera) somewhere?
[10:58] <mustard5> Jesse, did you do a check on the md5sum of the ISO or verify the integrity of the media?
[10:58] <xstation> mustrad5: thanks
[10:59] <mustard5> Jesse, I take it you burnt this disk yourself?  Or is an Ubunut CD from shipit?
[10:59] <Jesse> mustard5: havn';t checked
[10:59] <mustard5> xstation, sorry I couldnt help more
[10:59] <Jesse> I have burnt it myself
[10:59] <Agent_bob> now you need to read the README and any other howto's that pertain    if you have questions ask  and when you have finished  exit   matthew
[10:59] <Jesse> 4x rate just to be on the safe side
[10:59] <mustard5> Jesse, i would get hold of a md5sum checker of some kind online..and find the md5 hash from the download site you used
[10:59] <matthew> ok thanks
[10:59] <Whatsisname> I'd burn a new one
[10:59] <Whatsisname> and make sure the image is good like mustard5 mentioned
[10:59] <Agent_bob> any time matthew
[10:59] <Jesse> mustard5: alright i'll give that a try
[11:00] <Whatsisname> if that doesn't work
[11:00] <mustard5> Jesse, then run a check on the downloaded ISO is not corrupted by comparing the md5 hashes
[11:00] <Almindor> did they fix the "service removal bug" in drapper?
[11:00] <Whatsisname> eh, just see if that works first
[11:00] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Do you have a network card? Is it connected to some network?
[11:00] <Almindor> I remember that whenever I removed a service the killer script remained
[11:00] <Jesse> yes it is connected
[11:01] <Whatsisname> have you tried installing with it disconnected at first
[11:01] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Just a try. Remove network cable from the network card and restart computer (retry installation)
[11:01] <Agent_bob> i'll be back....
[11:01] <Jesse> i'll give it a try, gimme a sec
[11:01] <ardchoille> I see a keyboard shortcut in the shortcut prefs, the shortcut is "0xde". What key combo is that? Is there a chart of those key combo's?
[11:01] <intelikey> i'm back.
[11:02] <mustard5> wb intelikey
[11:02] <Jesse> i'm on my powerbook right now so I can do both at the same time
[11:02] <mustard5> Jesse, k
[11:02] <spikeb> im on my mac mini right now :)
[11:02] <intelikey> mustard5 i thank you and Agent_bob thanks you and .....
[11:02] <Whatsisname> ardchoille, often I have seen those key's to be multimedia keys and whatnot
[11:03] <z3r0x> hi guys
[11:03] <Whatsisname> greetings
[11:03] <mustard5> intelikey, hehe..ah ok! :)  I see now :D
[11:03] <ardchoille> Whatsisname: oh, ok. Thanks
[11:03] <intelikey> :)
[11:04] <Whatsisname> usually if it's just a single key it will say "Ctrl+A" or whatever
[11:04] <ardchoille> yeah, and I can change them anyway
[11:04] <Tadej`Certanc> o
[11:05] <Jesse> trying the install without the network cable plugged in failed, note: would having a cd-rom drive and a dvd-rom drive cause any trouble?
[11:05] <z3r0x> I'm trying to install a java application but I can't -> libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file does anybody know which package I have to install?
[11:06] <nhaines> Jesse, that shouldn't cause a problem.
[11:06] <onkarshinde> z3r0x: What application is it?
[11:06] <z3r0x> zend studio
[11:07] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[11:07] <z3r0x> but also if I try to install other java applications
[11:07] <intelikey> mustard5 i think it's a bug in this old version of bx i'm running but if i log on as Agent_bob i don't get nick highlighting when people address me.  i can change nicks but it doesn't help  if i log on with a nick that doesn't have _ in it it works ok....  so i just popped out and back in for that.   not that you care tho....
[11:07] <kaede> Hi
[11:07] <onkarshinde> z3r0x: Will answer that question in 5 minutes
[11:08] <ciro> hi all
[11:08] <mustard5> intelikey, hehehe..
[11:08] <z3r0x> onkarshinde, ok
[11:08] <Jesse> Ichecking md5 right now
[11:08] <nhaines> intelikey, can you check for a .bitchx file or directory?
[11:08] <kaede> Please, are here some people from czech or slovak republic?
[11:08] <ciro> guys Im not able to open a cd.my ubuntu says me that is impossible to start pmount.who can help me?
[11:08] <onkarshinde> z3r0x: Install libxp6 package from Synaptic
[11:08] <intelikey> nhaines i have a custom .bitchxrc   and saved data in .bitchx/
[11:08] <z3r0x> I already did
[11:09] <Jesse> ubuntu.com
[11:09] <mustard5> Jesse, k
[11:09] <onkarshinde> z3r0x: Then why this problem? The library you mentioned comes with this package
[11:09] <Jesse> sorry, got my keyboards confused
[11:09] <z3r0x> onkarshinde, I've read in a board that I have to install xorg-x11-deprecated-libs but I can't find it in the packagelist
[11:09] <ciro> cant somebody help me?
[11:09] <nhaines> Hmm, that is a bit odd.
[11:09] <onkarshinde> ciro: What CD is it? I mean Audio, Data etc.
[11:10] <ciro> onkarshinde, data
[11:11] <intelikey> ciro have you tried mounting it from CLI ?
[11:11] <onkarshinde> ciro: Try 'pmount /dev/cdrom' from command line
[11:11] <ciro> intelikey, I tried to do nothin
[11:11] <intelikey> ciro give it a shot and see if you get error messages or not
[11:12] <ciro> onkarshinde, mounted.but what do I gotta do to let my ubuntu mount it automatically?
[11:12] <snadge> does anyone here know of a successful dos emulator that will support the serial port.. ie com1
[11:12] <FlannelKing> DOSBox
[11:13] <nhaines> I believe VMware Server does that as well.
[11:13] <onkarshinde> ciro: I have never encountered such a problem. May be some problme with HAL. I hope a simple reboot will help
[11:13] <intelikey> i thought doesmu did ?
[11:13] <intelikey> dosemu that is
[11:13] <ciro> onkarshinde, I have already tried to reboot
[11:13] <snadge> DOSBox doesnt work for some reason.. even though i tell it to use /dev/ttyS0 as com1.. dosemu wont support the vga mode properly
[11:14] <Jesse> I just checked md5, it matches
[11:14] <mustard5> Jesse, bummer..I was hoping it wasnt going to get any harder to solve :)
[11:14] <intelikey> snadge bachs or what ever it's called ?
[11:14] <Jesse> I also burnt iso twice, one for me and another for a friend, I tryed both cd's and get the same error both times
[11:15] <snadge> intelikey, i cant seem to get bochs to work either ;0
[11:15] <Jesse> mustard5: yea i'm kinda bummed, but hopefully i'll be able to figure it out
[11:15] <FlannelKing> Jesse: you probably need to burn it slower
[11:15] <FlannelKing> Jesse: I had that problem on my first few ISOs
[11:15] <mustard5> Jesse, what type of hardware are we looking at on your system?
[11:15] <onkarshinde> Jesse: On what machine are you tried to install it? Is it a laptop?
[11:15] <Jesse> complete specs?
[11:15] <Jesse> nope desktop
[11:16] <intelikey> snadge sorry dosemu is the only one i have much exp with.  and it always worked non-gradus for me...
[11:16] <mustard5> Jesse, just rough idea not comprehensive specs
[11:16] <FlannelKing> snadge: did you enable COM emulation in the config file?  I know you have to for the net stuff.
[11:17] <mustard5> Jesse, hmmm..a desktop system..thats good news
[11:17] <snadge> yes i did.. im wondering if theres a way i can tell if ubuntu has detected the com ports itself
[11:17] <Jesse> Asus p4c800-deluxe, so its onboard Gb ethernet, 1GB ram, 2.8GHz pentium 4
[11:17] <mustard5> Jesse, so what graphics card? cpu?
[11:17] <mustard5> doh..sorry late typing that one
[11:17] <Jesse> x800
[11:17] <nhaines> COM ports ought to be very standard.
[11:17] <Jesse> I know linux has had trouble with ati hardware
[11:17] <mustard5> Jesse, yeah
[11:18] <intelikey> snadge got and old seriel mouse ?
[11:18] <snadge> i might do
[11:18] <mustard5> Jesse, since its desktop I wonder whether you could run the install with some extra options
[11:18] <Whatsisname> hmm i wonder if I should apt-get upgrade up to dapper
[11:18] <nhaines> Good morning, Toadstool!
[11:18] <Whatsisname> hopefully it wouldn't biff my computer
[11:18] <Jesse> mustard5: like what?
[11:18] <intelikey> anything you can input sig into ttyS0      then   od /dev/ttyS0    and move the mouse
[11:18] <mustard5> Jesse, try going to the function keys for help on what extra options you can try
[11:19] <mustard5> Jesse, I would think noapic nolapic or whatever they are
[11:19] <Toadstool> hi here
[11:19] <Jesse> noapic?
[11:19] <mustard5> Jesse, I'm just guessing here mind you :)
[11:19] <rdw200169> i'm gonna go try flight 5 here in a minute :)
[11:19] <Whatsisname> snadge what about wine
[11:19] <nhaines> I needed noacip nolacip for my laptop with ATI and Turion64 processor.
[11:19] <mustard5> Jesse, when you start the install disk you will see the option to go to help menus with function keys
[11:20] <Jesse> alright :)
[11:20] <brosioz_> hi
[11:20] <brosioz_> how can i known which is the number of serial port that is connected to my router ?
[11:20] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> nhaines: new HP notebook?
[11:20] <Whatsisname> just guess
[11:20] <Whatsisname> if one doesnt work, use the other
[11:20] <nhaines> Yes, a Compaq Presario some odd v2000z.
[11:20] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> Hehe
[11:20] <Whatsisname> otherwise consult your motherboard manual
[11:20] <matthew__> if gaim 2 final get's released before dapper final is released will it get included with dapper?
[11:20] <lotu5> hello all
[11:20] <lotu5> is there an ubuntu ppc channel?
[11:21] <Whatsisname> matthew__, depends on timing
[11:21] <nhaines> mathew__: probably not.
[11:21] <lotu5> or is there a kernel channel?
[11:21] <Whatsisname> maybe if it gets released tomorrow or something
[11:21] <mustard5> lotu5, I would think there might just be...
[11:21] <matthew__> Whatsisname - how about next thursday?
[11:21] <gargas> hi guys i need help with ubuntu am i on the right chanel?
[11:21] <nhaines> There is #ubuntu-kernel for dev chat.
[11:21] <lotu5> i'm trying to compile sofmac to get my airportextreme working, but i keep getting an error...
[11:21] <Whatsisname> how many people here are using the dapper flight thing
[11:21] <rdw200169> what's the chance that the new macpro laptop will ever work w/i386 linux...
[11:21] <onkarshinde> Jesse: I gues some display option like cga should help. Not sure though
[11:21] <nhaines> This is the place, gargas, unless maybe if you need help with Dapper.  :)
[11:21] <Whatsisname> or are most people holding out on breezy until it is officially launched
[11:21] <lotu5> nhaines: thanks
[11:21] <Jesse> onkarshinde: checking now, thanks :)
[11:21] <kusmuk> hey, what is your choice to burn dvd-rw
[11:22] <nhaines> I using dapper on my old laptop and Breezy on my new one.
[11:22] <mustard5> gargas, you are here yes
[11:22] <Whatsisname> how well does dapper work
[11:22] <Jhair> Whatsisname: I am running dapper on a vmware virtual machine but keep my machine with breezy
[11:22] <gargas> ok how can i restore the bar where i can see my open windows when minimized?
[11:22] <onkarshinde> Whatsisname: I will wait till official release, since I only one PC and it has only one OS installed.
[11:22] <mustard5> Whatsisname, I'm using it on another partition..but not regularly
[11:22] <lotu5> so anyone know why i would be getting this error when trying to compile the softmac snapshot?
[11:22] <lotu5> make[1] : Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.15.1/build'
[11:22] <lotu5> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[11:22] <Whatsisname> hmm
[11:22] <Whatsisname> meh, I suppose I can at least wait until the 15th
[11:22] <nhaines> Whatsisname, I do like it but it does need some work and my network card (a barely-supported one) is being really flakey.
[11:23] <kusmuk> I think noone saw it so its again : guys, what is your favorite tool to burn/erase dvd+rw?
[11:23] <mustard5> lotu5, no build-essential package maybe?
[11:23] <Seveas> lotu5, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:23] <onkarshinde> gargas: Id you see a panel in the bottom, right click, select add to panel and then window list
[11:23] <Whatsisname> i'm all excited over the new gedit that will be in gnome 2.14
[11:23] <mustard5> lotu5, ah there you go...Seveas has an answer :)
[11:23] <Whatsisname> I think i'll just wait till gnome 2.14 is released and just build the whole thing myself
[11:23] <Seveas> Whatsisname, vim is still better ;)
[11:23] <intelikey> lotu5 error running ./configure  prior ?
[11:23] <nhaines> gargas: right-click on your top bar and choose New Panel.
[11:23] <Whatsisname> screw vim
[11:24] <Whatsisname> I usually use nano when I'm editing stuff on the remote webserver through ssh
[11:24] <kadet> what wrong with you
[11:24] <Whatsisname> but with gedit I can get all the nice pretty syntax highlighting and run it on my local machine
[11:24] <spikeb> who had the libXp.so.6 problem?
[11:24] <kadet> Iam not understand
[11:24] <Whatsisname> and it will save and load to the remote file
[11:24] <lotu5> mustard5: the problem is that there's no kernel headers package available for 2.6.15
[11:24] <Seveas> Whatsisname, hint: gedit now also understands sftp:// and ssh:// urls for editing 
[11:24] <Whatsisname> kusmuk
[11:24] <Seveas> so no need for nano
[11:24] <mustard5> gargas, add an applet...to the bottom bar...just trying to remember its name
[11:24] <Whatsisname> kusmuk, I use k3b
[11:25] <Whatsisname> what really since when
[11:25] <Whatsisname> lemme check it out
[11:25] <lotu5> mustard5: so i dl'ed the kernel source, did make mrproper and then make oldconfig and moved it to /usr/src/linux
[11:25] <Seveas> Whatsisname, since the one in gnome 2.14
[11:25] <gargas> ok i found it
[11:25] <gargas> thanx
[11:25] <Whatsisname> oh
[11:25] <lotu5> but its looking fo a modules build dir
[11:25] <mustard5> lotu5, its beyond my knowledge unfortunately
[11:25] <Seveas> so one more reason to look forward to it
[11:25] <spikeb> damn it
[11:25] <Whatsisname> yeah, thats what I was talking about Seveas
[11:25] <spikeb> i just found the solution
[11:25] <spikeb> heh
[11:25] <Whatsisname> the version in 2.12 doesnt
[11:25] <Jesse> apparently my machine is special
[11:25] <lotu5> what was that kernel channel again?
[11:25] <Jesse> a total short bus
[11:25] <mustard5> gargas, k..well done :)
[11:25] <gargas> now an other question how cani install limewire?
[11:25] <nhaines> Should be #ubuntu-kernel :)
[11:26] <Whatsisname> ugh you got me all excited :(
[11:26] <gargas> sorry but i m newbie
[11:26] <lotu5> heh
[11:26] <lotu5> thanks
[11:26] <Jhair> uh?
[11:26] <Whatsisname> lotu5, #ubuntu-kernel
[11:26] <mustard5> !tell gargas about limewire
[11:26] <kusmuk> whatsisname, I think I don't have any KDE now.
[11:26] <mustard5> gargas, look for a message from ubotu
[11:26] <Seveas> Whatsisname, upgrade to dapper ;)
[11:26] <mustard5> gargas, and do this next message first
[11:26] <tushkee> hey, what's the program he's using at the bottom of his screen? --> http://www.blueblog.org/wp-content/screenshots/xmms/xmms2.png
[11:26] <mustard5> !tell gargas about java
[11:27] <mustard5> gargas, so install java..then install limewire
[11:27] <Whatsisname> kusmuk you don't need all of kde, just the libs
[11:27] <Whatsisname> its only a couple meg no big deal
[11:27] <kusmuk> whatisisname, what about gnomebaker?
[11:27] <kusmuk> did you ever use it?
[11:27] <Whatsisname> never used it
[11:27] <mustard5> gargas, if you have further questions just ask in here
[11:27] <gargas> ok
[11:27] <gargas> i will
[11:27] <onkarshinde> Anybody owning a SE (bluetooth) phone willing to try my remote control configuration for Totem?
[11:27] <mustard5> gargas, have a read right through the guides first
[11:27] <kusmuk> k, I will firstly try baker. then k3b.
[11:27] <Whatsisname> ok
[11:27] <Whatsisname> i should try baker
[11:28] <gargas> where can i find those guides
[11:28] <intelikey> xcdroast
[11:28] <Whatsisname> k3b would be awesome if they'd have two things changed/added
[11:28] <Whatsisname> xcdroast is ass
[11:28] <mustard5> gargas, look for a private message from the help bot 'ubotu'
[11:28] <onkarshinde> gargas: wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <Whatsisname> if k3b was made "g3b" and if it supported simultaneous burning or multiple recorders
[11:28] <intelikey> gtoaster
[11:28] <Jesse> system locks up with noapic nolapic
[11:28] <gargas> thanx gyus
[11:28] <gargas> seeya
[11:28] <spikeb> gtoaster and gnomebake are alright
[11:29] <onkarshinde> I haven't tried k3b. I am happy with gnome-baker
[11:29] <nhaines> I like k3b.
[11:29] <mustard5> Jesse, hmmm
[11:29] <Whatsisname> spikeb how does gnomebake compare to k3b
[11:29] <nhaines> Although I'm just using Gnomebaker since my last reinstall.
[11:29] <spikeb> Whatsisname: i dont remember
[11:29] <Jesse> what was that vga param you said before?
[11:29] <intelikey> k3b is to windowish for me...
[11:29] <Lani2> how can I add soundblaster 16 support to my utuntu installation?
[11:30] <Lani2> *ubuntu
[11:30] <mustard5> Jesse, I don't know it ..but its in the function key menus
[11:30] <Whatsisname> looks like gnomebaker is similar to k3b, in that it is simply a frontend for cdrecord / mkisofs / etc
[11:30] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Pull out the installation Cd out of drive. And browse it from some other machine. There is an installtion guide on that
[11:30] <Jesse> I was checking under special machines, and it gave as an example, linux vga=771 noapic nolapic
[11:30] <intelikey> Whatsisname all of them are
[11:30] <Jesse> onkarshinde: thanks i'll give it a try
[11:30] <Whatsisname> intelikey: well, you can use cdrecord then, k3b is basically just drag+drop front end for it
[11:30] <lotu5> anyone know of a good kernel channel? apparently everyone in ubuntu-kernel is asleep...
[11:30] <kusmuk> whatisname, wauv, gnomebaker looks awesome. like nero.
[11:31] <lotu5> or a ppc channel?
[11:31] <intelikey> Whatsisname yup
[11:31] <Whatsisname> yeah, I might as well try it out
[11:31] <mustard5> lotu5, kernel chat is not a big draw for IRC I suppose :)
[11:31] <Whatsisname> brb grabbing some food
[11:31] <lotu5> heh
[11:31] <kusmuk> I'm tryin to have a KDE-free system. I hate it (:
[11:31] <alheim> hi I have an issue with my sound card..it is no more detected
[11:31] <lotu5> yeah, maybe a good channel would be kernel-netsex
[11:32] <mustard5> lotu5, that just might work :)
[11:32] <intelikey> yeah i'd hate a kde-less system too kusmuk
[11:32] <intelikey> :)
[11:32] <spikeb> hey
[11:32] <spikeb> there's always kubuntu
[11:33] <onkarshinde> Anybody owning a SE (bluetooth) phone willing to try my remote control configuration for Totem?
[11:33] <bliss1_> hey
[11:33] <mustard5> greetings bliss1_
[11:33] <nhaines> I'd better pop out for some food.
[11:34] <bliss1_> how do I supply or show a full path to a directory at command line ie to /usr/local/ssl
[11:34] <chell> just installed dapper drake flight 5 - looks nice so far
[11:34] <quickblaine> hi, can some one do that thing where you send me the linksabout stuff, for mouse setup, wifi and repos
[11:34] <bliss1_> mustard5: hi
[11:34] <mustard5> bliss1_, I'm not understanding the question
[11:34] <Frogzoo> tell quickblaine about wifi
[11:34] <Frogzoo> !tell quickblaine about repos
[11:34] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: What do you mean by full path? Isn't /usr/local/bliss already ful path?
[11:34] <intelikey> bliss1_ me neither
[11:35] <intelikey> ?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> !tell quickblaine about xorg
[11:35] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: May you are asking about command 'pwd'
[11:35] <chell> /usr/local/ bliss is the full path indeed
[11:35] <quickblaine> i didnt get the wifi one. how do i get linux to recognise my mouse?
[11:36] <Whatsisname> why are you trying to have a kde-free system
[11:36] <Frogzoo> quickblaine: run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - should pickup your mouse, fingers x'd
[11:36] <quickblaine> soz, im a noob, dont get that :S
[11:36] <Frogzoo> tell quickblaine about wifi
[11:36] <chell> How do I change the default document language in Abiword?
[11:37] <intelikey> quickblaine use the proper protocal and device in the reconfigure process sujested above ^
[11:37] <mustard5> bliss1_, ?
[11:37] <n3m3s1s> hey plz, how do fix this bug plz : http://nemddl.free.fr/Ubuntu/Capture-2.png
[11:37] <n3m3s1s> -do
[11:37] <liable> why not have a kde free system :)
[11:37] <bliss1_> ok I have installed openssl from source with configure make and make install normally at prmpt you type openssl  but at the moment bash cannot find openssl there is a directory in /usr/local/ssl but at prompt command ssl and openssl do not respond
[11:38] <Whatsisname> because there are many great softwares written that use kde components
[11:38] <eradik> Another quick question, I have a second backup drive formatted to ntfs, and I am able to access it at root, but i am unable to change permissions using chmod because of chmod saying its a read only FS. How can i fix this please?
[11:38] <chell> n3m3sls: I can't read french...
[11:38] <Frogzoo> mshade: click 'details' & repost, svp
[11:38] <intelikey> liable that's as good of a question as 'why not have a gnome free system?' .
[11:38] <Whatsisname> although if one was to try and create a "one true GNU system" they'd have to have no kde
[11:38] <quickblaine> still havent got anything about wifi
[11:38] <Frogzoo> n3m3s1s: click 'details' & repost, svp
[11:39] <bliss1_> mustard5: xstation now know as bliss1
[11:39] <Whatsisname> or a "one true free system"
[11:39] <liable> intelikey: and the answer is?
[11:39] <Frogzoo> soz mshade - typo
[11:39] <n3m3s1s> ok
[11:39] <Whatsisname> eradik, free ntfs support in linux is beyond shitty
[11:39] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: Because /usr/local/ssl is not in path
[11:39] <n3m3s1s> chec: chec: Le schma /schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_workspace_names spcifi pour /apps/panel/applets/applet_12/prefs/display_workspace_names ne contient pas une valeur de schma
[11:39] <n3m3s1s> chec: chec: Le schma /schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces spcifi pour /apps/panel/applets/applet_12/prefs/display_all_workspaces ne contient pas une valeur de schma
[11:39] <lotu5> anyone know how to build kernel modules?
[11:39] <n3m3s1s> sorry.
[11:39] <Whatsisname> lotu5 they are built when you build the whole kernel
[11:39] <intelikey> liable the answer is the reverse of the origenal    'why ?'
[11:40] <liable> no your not, otherwise you wouldnt have done it..
[11:40] <eradik> so there is no easy way to allow access to my normal account?
[11:40] <Whatsisname> *you're
[11:40] <Whatsisname> you can try captive-ntfs
[11:40] <liable> intelikey: and that answer is why not. because you dont want to i guess..
[11:40] <n3m3s1s> So Frogzoo ?
[11:40] <eradik> ok
[11:40] <eradik> ty
[11:40] <Whatsisname> the wiser choice would be to format the backup drive with a non-shitty filesystem
[11:40] <Whatsisname> do you dual boot or is your machine linux only
[11:40] <quickblaine> !tell quickblaine about wifi
[11:40] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: thanks so how to make it so it is in path
[11:40] <onkarshinde> Whatsisname: I choose last option
[11:41] <lotu5> whatsisname: i'm trying to buidl the softmac module, but it goes into the /lib/modules dir and fails
[11:41] <eradik> im moving to linux only
[11:41] <intelikey> liable prezactly.   it is choice.  nothing more.
[11:41] <Frogzoo> desole n3m3s1s: don't recognise the error
[11:41] <eradik> but i have data on my backup
[11:41] <eradik> just backup files
[11:41] <Whatsisname> onkarshinde, with respect to what, the backup drive?
[11:41] <eradik> suppose i could copy it to a local directory on my main drive and reformat it
[11:41] <n3m3s1s> :'(
[11:41] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: typr followng command to do it temporary 'export PATH=/usr/local/ssl/bin:$PATH'
[11:41] <Whatsisname> eradik, that would be the best option
[11:41] <intelikey> liable i have kde and gnome free system,   no x at all.  *shrugs*
[11:42] <liable> intelikey: why are you asking me anyway. i just countered to another question..
[11:42] <eradik> thanks
[11:42] <Whatsisname> intelikey: I bet you don't6
[11:42] <onkarshinde> Whatsisname: No. The only operating system on my machine is Ubuntu 5.10
[11:42] <liable> intelikey: yeah yeah, me too..
[11:42] <intelikey> Whatsisname do you pay when you bet ?
[11:42] <Whatsisname> a lot of gnome's stuff has nothing to do with X
[11:42] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: To do that on permanent basis, add same line to ~/.bashrc and ~/.basg_profile
[11:43] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: Why did you install openssl this way?
[11:43] <Whatsisname> sure, I will bet you 800 million dollars
[11:43] <liable> ...
[11:43] <Frogzoo> n3m3s1s: are you using a gdesklet workspace switcher? maybe remove & problem will go away
[11:43] <alheim> hi I have an issue with my sound card..it is no more detected
[11:43] <Tigger_> Hello there,
[11:43] <Frogzoo> alheim: tried a reboot?
[11:43] <intelikey> well pay up Whatsisname, cause you just bet....
[11:44] <onkarshinde> alheim: what sound card?
[11:44] <Whatsisname> lol I don't see any proof that i am incorrect
[11:44] <Jesse> grrrr,this is troublesom
[11:44] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Hello
[11:44] <alheim> frogzoo nothing related to a rebbot but thanks
[11:44] <bliss1_> onkarshide: I did not relise I just installed from desktop with configre make and make install how should I do it please ?
[11:44] <alheim> onkarshinde chipset intel realteck
[11:44] <intelikey> Whatsisname doesn't matter you bet and you said you pay when you bet.  :)
[11:44] <Frogzoo> so alheim - what does /var/log/messages say?
[11:45] <Afief> Is there a way to "easily" update from Breezy to Dapper flight 5? i'm okay with editing config files and using terminal
[11:45] <intelikey> pay up or shut up....
[11:45] <Frogzoo> intelikey: bets made on the net aren't really enforceable btw
[11:45] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: I mean openssl is already installed I guess. If it is not then you should install from Synaptic.
[11:45] <Tigger_> i have a small problem, i connect using DHCP Connection and connect to a proxy, i surf the web without any problem but i cannot use msn or irc unless i manually add the dns in the /etc/hosts file
[11:45] <Whatsisname> intelikey: it's usually understood to mean that you only pay when you lose
[11:45] <Tigger_> how can i solve this
[11:45] <intelikey> Frogzoo did you read what just happened ?   :)
[11:45] <onkarshinde> alheim: What exactly problem? Does 'lspci' command shows it?
[11:46] <Whatsisname> hmm i'm going to give this gnomebaker a quick spin
[11:46] <intelikey> Whatsisname but i asked you specificly  ;)
[11:46] <alheim> snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device
[11:46] <alheim> Mar 12 10:44:24 localhost kernel: [4294708.441000]  snd_hwdep: disagrees about version of symbol snd_device_new
[11:46] <Afief> Is there a way to "easily" update from Breezy to Dapper flight 5? i'm okay with editing config files and using terminal
[11:46] <Frogzoo> ;)
[11:46] <Whatsisname> if it supports multiple burning instances that would rule
[11:46] <alheim> it actually does not load the modules
[11:46] <Whatsisname> i could put an end to the multiple user k3b shenanigans
[11:47] <bozzu> where is notify window in xchat-gnome?
[11:47] <Frogzoo> !tell Afief about upgrade
[11:47] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Have you put proxy settings at 'System->Preferences->Network Proxy'?
[11:47] <Tigger_> yes
[11:47] <Tigger_> and that's why i am finding this a wierd problem
[11:47] <onkarshinde> Afief: That is the easiest way.
[11:47] <alheim> onkarshinde I see the chipset with lspci
[11:47] <cassidy> bozzu: it's a plugin
[11:47] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: ARe you using Gaim for MSN and IRC?
[11:47] <alheim> onkarshinde 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[11:48] <Tigger_> Gaim
[11:48] <lotu5> ciao
[11:48] <onkarshinde> Afief: I would recommend not to upgrade. Wait till final release.
[11:48] <Afief> onkarshinde: what is? I have no idea how to do it
[11:48] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Try configuring Gaim's proxy settings separately
[11:48] <liable> gotta keep up with the jones's
[11:48] <Frogzoo> Afief: dapper is beta - so things will break
[11:49] <Afief> onkarshinde: well, i feel like playing with my system before my second college semester starts again... and i don't feel like loosing what i've installed/downloaded
[11:49] <St_Iron> hello
[11:49] <onkarshinde> alheim: Try running alsamixer from command line and see if you haven't accidentally muted some output
[11:49] <Whatsisname> hmm
[11:49] <Tigger_> i am not having the problem with gaim only, i am facing this problem in every application that connects to the internet other than the browser, although the dns is okay, if added the ip manually for the repositories in order to use apt-get
[11:49] <bozzu> cassidy: i have enabled "notification plugin", but it does not seem to work... (someone in my notify list connects to the server -> nothing happens, someone query me -> nothing happens)
[11:50] <Whatsisname> i think I'm going to have to wait until gnomebaker is a bit more developed before giving it a shot
[11:50] <onkarshinde> St_Iron: Hi
[11:50] <St_Iron> hi Whatsisname  :)
[11:50] <onkarshinde> Whatsisname: I use Gnomebaker from breezy-backports and found no problem
[11:50] <alheim> onkarshinde when I go in the system preferences for the sound I cannot see my sound card....so when i launch alsa-mixer it says that there is no output available
[11:50] <cassidy> bozzu: the notification isn't the notify. It's in the notification area (on the panel)
[11:51] <Whatsisname> greetings St_Iron
[11:51] <Jesse> hey guys, i've tried burning it again on a 4x cycle
[11:51] <Whatsisname> what can I do for you
[11:51] <St_Iron> and hi onkarshinde :)
[11:51] <Jesse> still getting the grey bar, its basically hanging
[11:51] <Whatsisname> onkarshinde, i'm not so sure if it will properly handle burning a video DVD, and I don't want to throw away a DVDR on it
[11:51] <cassidy> bozzu: try the "on screen display" plugin
[11:51] <Whatsisname> i guess I'll just stick with k3b for now
[11:51] <onkarshinde> alheim: This is weird
[11:52] <Whatsisname> looks like theres also another program graveman http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/
[11:52] <gargas> gyus i need help my /opt file seems to be locked
[11:52] <bozzu> cassidy: i'll try it. thanks. but... what a notification area is for if it doesn't notify me for events? :)
[11:52] <Jesse> install still hanging after detection of cd-rom drivers, even after I burned a second cop
[11:53] <Jesse> any more suggestions?
[11:53] <Tigger_> what do you think is the problem ?
[11:53] <cassidy> bozzu: it's a notification but with a tray icon, not using libnotify (i know it's not very clear)
[11:53] <onkarshinde> Jesse: Wait for some time
[11:53] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Did you configure Gaim's proxy settings?
[11:53] <chell> I've got Dapper Drake Flight 5 right now, will it automatically upgrade to Flight 6, 7 etc. and then to the final product when I run dist-upgrades?
[11:53] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: export --command not found
[11:53] <Whatsisname> gargas: are you trying to write to it as a regular user
[11:53] <gargas> i guess so.
[11:53] <Whatsisname> chell I would presume so
[11:53] <gargas> do i have to change user?
[11:54] <chell> Okay thank you
[11:54] <Jesse> onkarshinde: so while that grey bar is on the bottom, just leave it for 5 minutes
[11:54] <onkarshinde> chell: Of course it will, provided your /etc/apt/sources.list contains dapper repos.
[11:54] <Whatsisname> gargas yes you'll have to elevate your prividges (good way) and edit it, or edit /opt's file permissions (bad way)
[11:54] <chell> okay thank you too
[11:54] <Tigger_> ye
[11:54] <Tigger_> yes
[11:54] <Whatsisname> sudo will take care of elevating your prevlidges
[11:54] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: What kind fo network is it?
[11:55] <gargas> ook
[11:55] <Tigger_> i am connected to wireless network ( hot spot )
[11:55] <gargas> sudo is the command line ? the terminal?
[11:55] <Tigger_> onkarshinde, does this cause problems ?
[11:56] <Frogzoo> alheim: did you upgrade/recompile your kernel?
[11:56] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Not sure if MSN or IRC is blocked on this netwrok.
[11:56] <Whatsisname> sudo is a command on the command line yes
[11:56] <Tigger_> i can use msn well on my windows pc
[11:57] <Whatsisname> sudo will elevate your account to root priveldges, use it with care
[11:57] <quickblaine69> hi... i have a laptop with ubuntu on, it wont recognise my 2 button Ps/2 no scroll mouse. howdo i make it recognise it?
[11:57] <Tigger_> using the same network
[11:57] <bliss1_> onkarshine: you said use export PATH=/usr/local/ssl/bin:$PATH
[11:57] <bliss1_>  but export command not found
[11:57] <Whatsisname> quickblaine69, you'd have to set it up in your xorg
[11:57] <Whatsisname> or just get a usb mouse lol
[11:57] <Frogzoo> quickblaine69: did you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'   ?
[11:57] <quickblaine69> no. not yet... is that just in the terminal yeh?
[11:57] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: On my system I can run export command just fine.
[11:58] <Frogzoo> quickblaine69: yeh, just in the terminal - it will rewrite your xorg - & will set your mouse settings also
[11:58] <Tigger_> onkarshinde: but the problem is not in gaim only
[11:58] <quickblaine69> what is the xorg?
[11:58] <Whatsisname> xorg is the X server
[11:59] <Frogzoo> quickblaine69: /etc/X11/xorg.conf - it's the settings for your X server
[11:59] <Whatsisname> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[11:59] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Can you surf websites?
[11:59] <quickblaine69> ok. also, what are the repos things? last night someone told me to check it out, which im doing now... why should i?
[12:01] <Whatsisname> repos
[12:01] <Whatsisname> ?
[12:01] <Tigger_> yes, i can surf websites but i cannot do anything else unless i add the ip of the network manually in the hosts file
[12:01] <Whatsisname> did they say repositories?
[12:01] <chell> http://www.y-windows.org/index.html
[12:01] <Nitro88> hi all
[12:01] <Whatsisname> greetings
[12:01] <Nitro88> i've got a problem with flash...
[12:01] <Frogzoo> quickblaine: repo = repository - they are collections of ubuntu installable software
[12:01] <RemyLaptop> Hi, I have a rio mp3 player I'm trying to get to work.  I've got the software installed, but I can't get it to detect the player.  Even though it is listed under lsusb
[12:02] <Nitro88> so, when i go in a website made in flash
[12:02] <Frogzoo> !tell quickblaine about repos
[12:02] <Nitro88> it doesn't go
[12:02] <RemyLaptop> !tell Nitro88 about easyubuntu
[12:02] <RemyLaptop> !repos
[12:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:03] <Jesse> hey I let the installer sit for about 5 minutes, and I was getting an error saying that it was not able find drivers comnpatible with my cd-rom drive, or that the cd may not be in the drive and to check and place cd in drive.
[12:03] <onkarshinde> Tigger_: Sorry, can't help.
[12:03] <giggsey> I have a WinTV card in my PC, and I am wondering if I can watch TV using it on my ubuntu dapper
[12:03] <babo> hi guys, I'm trying to set up a socks proxy for websurfing, I've googled it but no luck there ... can anyone point me in the right direction ? pls ?
[12:03] <remavalu> hi
[12:03] <babo> it's also not in the wiki ...
[12:03] <onkarshinde> Jesse: So I guess it is problem with CD drive. Is it anything other than an IDE cdrom?
[12:04] <Jesse> nope, I have two though, 1 cd-rw and a dvd-rw
[12:04] <chell> How come Times New Roman looks better in Abiword than in MS Word?
[12:04] <remavalu> excuse me can I ask you how to install xwpe on ubuntu o.s.?
[12:04] <Tigger_> anyone can help me with the DNS problem ???
[12:04] <Jesse> I swapped the cd into the dvd-rw just to make sure
[12:04] <RemyLaptop> Hi, I have a rio mp3 player I'm trying to get to work.  I've got the software installed, but I can't get it to detect the player.  Even though it is listed under lsusb
[12:04] <onkarshinde> remavalu: what is xwpe?
[12:04] <jquixote> hello
[12:04] <chell> hello
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> !tell onkarshinde about xwpe
[12:05] <remavalu> xpwe support c programming
[12:05] <onkarshinde> RemyLaptop: What software did you install? Is it from Rio?
[12:05] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: which package does export come with
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> onkarshinde, I installed the RIO software from the repository
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> which is that same as what is on sourceforge
[12:05] <remavalu> no onka...... it's a software like turbo c in winzoz.....
[12:05] <jquixote> can anyone educate me as to what is going on with this command? (because it's giving me a permission denied error): KVERS=`uname -r` KSRC=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/source debian/rules binary_modules
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> it's meant to work, but I can't work out how to point it to the right port for it to pick up the player
[12:06] <remavalu> but i'm new for ubuntu.... now it's difficult for me go on
[12:06] <RemyLaptop> jquixote are you running it as sudo ?
[12:06] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: I don't know.
[12:06] <gargas> i give the command unzip -u LimeWireOther.zip -d /opt/ and i get cannot find or open LimeWireOther.zip, LimeWireOther.zip.zip or LimeWireOther.zip.ZIP.
[12:06] <gargas>  the file is in my desktop. what am i doing wrong?
[12:06] <Whatsisname> don't run that ocmmand as sudo it won't work
[12:06] <Whatsisname> because its a bash command, not an executable command
[12:06] <RemyLaptop> gargas are you in the desktop directory ?
[12:06] <Tigger_> No one can help with my DNS problem ???
[12:06] <Whatsisname> switch to a root shell with sudo -s
[12:06] <gargas> yes
[12:06] <Whatsisname> then run that command
[12:07] <Jesse> nope, it wasn't my dvd-drive, so it must be my cd-rw
[12:07] <remavalu> can I give you the link of xwpe if anyone is better of me..... of course ;)
[12:07] <Jesse> for some reason it can't find compativle drivers for it
[12:07] <Jesse> or it can't detect it properly
[12:07] <jquixote> Whatsisname: nice1
[12:07] <onkarshinde> SOmeone help me, I can't handle these many questions at a time. Seveas: where are you?
[12:08] <RemyLaptop> question:  how can I get an MP3 player to talk to ubuntu ?  anyone done it ?
[12:08] <Seveas> onkarshinde, hehe 
[12:08] <jariep1_> hello
[12:08] <Whatsisname> hi there
[12:08] <Seveas> Whatsisname, sudo -s is bad, sudo -i is prefered
[12:08] <remavalu> hi to anyone.... someone can help me in xpwe installation?
[12:09] <jariep1_> does anybody here have experience with installing reiser4 file system on ubuntu 5.10
[12:09] <Frogzoo> jariep1_: sigh - if you can't install reiser - you don't need it...
[12:09] <Whatsisname> hmm yeah -i is much better I agree now after looking at the man page
[12:09] <RemyLaptop> question:  how can I get an MP3 player to talk to ubuntu ?  anyone done it ?
[12:10] <Seveas> RemyLaptop, plug it in
[12:10] <Whatsisname> too many variables in that RemyLaptop
[12:10] <Whatsisname> plug it in and see what happens
[12:10] <Seveas> it shoud work ootb, depending on the type of it
[12:10] <Frogzoo> RemyLaptop: amarok supports ipod out of the box
[12:10] <remavalu> excuse me what do you use for c programming also included tcp/ip library?
[12:10] <RemyLaptop> Seveas, I do, nothing happens...
[12:10] <jariep1_> Frogzoo, yes I do... I have a flatfile wiki that's growing, and reiser would let me add unlimited files to the filesystem
[12:10] <Seveas> remavalu, vim as editor, gcc as compiler
[12:10] <Jesse> nevermind, it says the cd-rom could not be mounted
[12:10] <Seveas> RemyLaptop, what kind of player?
[12:10] <RemyLaptop> Whatsisname what do you need to know to help you?
[12:10] <RemyLaptop> Frogzoo it's not an ipod, it's a rio 500
[12:10] <remavalu> seveas is easy to install?
[12:11] <chell> Any good free guide on the web to c++ programming in a linux environment?
[12:11] <Seveas> ah, rio - try banshee or rhythmbox with that
[12:11] <RemyLaptop> k, thanks
[12:11] <onkarshinde> Jesse: did you succeed with DVD drive?
[12:11] <Seveas> remavalu, apt-get install build-essential
[12:11] <balay> how do i set up syntax highlighment in vi?
[12:11] <remavalu> so seveas..... excuse me but i'm new for linux :(
[12:11] <Whatsisname> Remy once you plug it in type lsusb and see what kind of device it is
[12:12] <Seveas> balay, :syntax on
[12:12] <Jesse> onkarshinde: nope that wasnt being recognized yet, so it wasn't causing an error, I left it for 5 minutes, and I was saying that my cd could not be mounted
[12:12] <bliss1_> onkarshide: ok export works so after doing this in temp I can run openssl?
[12:12] <balay> tks seveas :)
[12:12] <Whatsisname> chell: programming in c++ is the same in linux for the most part
[12:12] <Whatsisname> the only difference is where you use signals or you start using GNU\Linux libraries
[12:12] <chell> all right cheers
[12:12] <Whatsisname> but then you would consult those specific libraries documentations
[12:13] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: You should be.
[12:13] <Whatsisname> if this next DVD is a coaster I'm going to be pissed
[12:13] <Jesse> I remember seeing somthing about that on the forums, so i'm just checking now
[12:13] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:14] <remavalu> who has installed xwpe software run on linux?
[12:14] <jafdet> balay, edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment syntax on
[12:14] <RemyLaptop> Whatsisname , when I type lsusb I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10047
[12:14] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: thanks it works now if I want this to happen always what is the full command at prompt
[12:14] <tuxi> salut
[12:14] <Whatsisname> looks like your device is a rio something or other
[12:15] <clast> what is the BurnFREE option in Gnomebaker all about?
[12:15] <Whatsisname> clast
[12:15] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: Add the same command to .bashrc and .bash_profile in your home directory
[12:15] <Whatsisname> burn free is some sort of uh
[12:15] <remavalu> seveas can i give you the link of xwpe for looking just a few second to programm?
[12:15] <Whatsisname> dvd media reading checking technology or something
[12:15] <remavalu> i need a help installation :(
[12:15] <balay> tks jafdet
[12:15] <Whatsisname> so the burner doesnt try to burn too fast and stuff like that
[12:15] <Jesse> anybody know how I can mount my cd-rom to finish install lol
[12:15] <g0dchild> my opera menus are god ugly- :( whats the deal with it? openmotif?
[12:16] <Whatsisname> just leave it checked on
[12:16] <Seveas> remavalu, what is xwpe?
[12:16] <RemyLaptop> Seveas neither of those apps seem to talk to it...
[12:16] <RemyLaptop> Whatsisname any other suggestions?
[12:16] <quickblaine> hi all, thanks for the help, i now have wifi connection on linux. i ran the xorg command you gave me but it still didnt pick up the mouse
[12:16] <g0dchild> how can i get it to use the WM's styles?
[12:16] <remavalu> have you ever seen turbo c in windows..... it's similar but for linux
[12:16] <g0dchild> quickblaine, try setting it to /dev/input/mouse0
[12:16] <Whatsisname> i forget the command to see what devices appeared in the /dev/ directory
[12:16] <clast> Whatsisname, k, thanks :) so i guess some hardware vendors call it BurnProof!
[12:17] <Whatsisname> see if any sdaX's appeared in /dev/
[12:17] <Whatsisname> when you plugged it in
[12:17] <remavalu> with that programm i can use c language......
[12:17] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: you mean this command export PATH=/usr/local/ssl/bin:$PATH
[12:17] <bliss1_>  (with or without export
[12:17] <Whatsisname> sometimes removable drives appear as scsi disks when they are plugged in
[12:17] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: With export
[12:17] <quickblaine> how do i do that g0dchild?
[12:17] <Whatsisname> why not make a symlink to /usr/local/ssh/bin/whatever instead of modifying the search path
[12:17] <onkarshinde> Whatsisname: Do you mean USB drives? Yes, they always appear scsi disks
[12:18] <Whatsisname> usb drives and mp3 players and whatnot yeah
[12:18] <remavalu> www.identicalsoftware.com/xwpe/    ----> if someone can help me thanks
[12:18] <Jesse> during install I get an error message saying it could not mount my cd-rom drive, any ideas?
[12:19] <Whatsisname> not really, see if you have another cdrom laying around
[12:19] <Whatsisname> what IDE chipset is your mobo using
[12:19] <g0dchild> quickblaine, - if u are doing what I think you are doing, then you should be able to set it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf - just find the mouse section and change it
[12:19] <quickblaine> what do i need to do to get this mouse work? when i move the mouse the trackpad freezes fro a bit so im guessing it recognises it in some respect
[12:19] <Whatsisname> or sata chipset or whatever
[12:19] <Frogzoo> Jesse: try booting the install as follows 'linux acpi=off'
[12:19] <quickblaine> ok, i just change the code yeh?
[12:19] <g0dchild> quickblaine, - yes, try changing the drivers too
[12:19] <quickblaine> what do i change it to?
[12:19] <onkarshinde> remavalu: Must you use and IDE?
[12:20] <Jesse> frigzii: ill give it a try
[12:20] <g0dchild> yeah, have the config you have now backed up and try experimenting it with the different dirvers -
[12:20] <remavalu> yes onkarshide...... for school
[12:20] <remavalu> engineering information
[12:20] <jafdet> quickblaine u a
[12:21] <onkarshinde> remavalu: I even heard that rhide is good. Never tried it though. If GUI is available then Anjuta is best
[12:21] <Jesse> I'm using an intel chipset on my board
[12:21] <remavalu> in an other case i don't disturb all the community for this problem.....
[12:21] <jafdet> quickblaine u can boot in knoppix in graphic mode, view the X11 setting and then implement it in your installation of ubuntu
[12:21] <Whatsisname> yeah anjuta or kdevelop are good but you need to use X for them
[12:21] <remavalu> but i must use it :(
[12:21] <Whatsisname> why must you use it
[12:22] <remavalu> and I don't know nothing about linux kernel :(
[12:22] <bornschein> hi, does anybody of you know how to install a passive isdn card (avm fritz card pci) at least i installed it, but i cant send a fax because he doesn't know /dev/modem
[12:22] <remavalu> i must learn all!
[12:22] <quickblaine> im in the xorg.conf file now, is this what i need to change: InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[12:22] <quickblaine> it wont let me change it
[12:23] <jafdet> quickblaine, Section "InputDevice"
[12:23] <remavalu> someone use xwpe?
[12:23] <quickblaine> yeh. it wont let me change it
[12:23] <Whatsisname> ah sweet a non coaster
[12:23] <jafdet> quickblaine, got root?
[12:23] <quickblaine> root password? yes
[12:24] <jafdet> and you're trying change it under root account?
[12:24] <quickblaine> yes
[12:24] <quickblaine> i think
[12:24] <quickblaine> im not sure
[12:25] <jafdet> quickblaine, try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <nijan> Hello, I've a lot of problem using apt. I've been trying to install a package, but alway idle on "getting header" or something like that; I've tried to change the repository from de.archive.ubuntu... to it.archive.... But still getting a lot of error after apt-get update: 99% [5 Packages gzip 0]  [In attesa degli header]                                                                 2877B/s 0s
[12:25] <nijan> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:25] <nijan> ; and idle too.
[12:25] <g0dchild> are there any packages to download all the cool gnome themes and style?
[12:25] <g0dchild> its a bother to download them one by one :(
[12:26] <quickblaine> done the sudo nano thing... what now im just in  terminal with a black bit
[12:26] <remavalu> someone can help me? I don't know how to run xwpe installation
[12:27] <chuckyp> morining peoples
[12:27] <jafdet> quickblaine and there is no config lines?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> morning
[12:27] <remavalu> good morning
[12:27] <g0dchild> !themes
[12:27] <chuckyp> remavalu, how are you trying t install it?
[12:28] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: so at the prompt which is bliss1 which is where .bashrc and .bash-profile are I expect I just type export PATH=/usr/local/ssl/bin:$PATH
[12:28] <quickblaine> no
[12:28] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, can you suggest any apt-get package that'll download all the cool gnome themes out there?
[12:28] <quickblaine> np config lines
[12:28] <remavalu> i don't know.... i have the tar file..... I have extracted it.... and now i don't know how I must do
[12:28] <remavalu> to use it
[12:28] <jafdet> quickblaine, hm, are u sure, using the xorg?
[12:28] <remavalu> yes chuckyp..... i want to install it
[12:28] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: there isnt one you can use gnome-art that will load the themes from art.gnome.org and you choose
[12:29] <chuckyp> !tell remavalu about compile
[12:29] <quickblaine> in terminal i typed in sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:29] <chuckyp> remavalu, real th emessage from ubotu
[12:29] <g0dchild> !kdethemes
[12:29] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: sudo apt-get install gnome-art for that package
[12:29] <quickblaine> all o got was a blank thing with a few ^comands at the bottom
[12:29] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, - done that already ;)
[12:29] <remavalu> thanks
[12:29] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: than try kde-look.org
[12:29] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, you need a leading / so it would be sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <jafdet> quickblaine, i see, it means, that u don't have this file
[12:30] <chuckyp> err quickblaine  *********
[12:30] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: i know ;)
[12:30] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:30] <chuckyp> quickblaine, try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, - have you got opera installed? the menus look terrible- wish if i can gnomize 'em
[12:30] <chuckyp> g0dchild, possible poke around on opera's site about customizing.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: i havent been able to install opera since like dec
[12:31] <chell> what are your opinions on dapper so far?
[12:31] <g0dchild> pity, since opera keeps getting better and better with every new release.
[12:31] <quickblaine> chuckyp, got the same result, just blank
[12:31] <jafdet> quickblaine, do u have /etc/X11/xorg.conf and does it not empty?
[12:31] <chuckyp> chell, I like it you can check out #ubuntu+1 for chat about it.
[12:31] <nijan> Hello, I've a lot of problem using apt. I've been trying to install a package, but alway idle on "getting header" or something like that; I've tried to change the repository from de.archive.ubuntu... to it.archive.... But still getting a lot of error after apt-get update: 99% [5 Packages gzip 0]  [In attesa degli header]    2877B/s 0s
[12:31] <j-linux> So I heard that automatix is bad.  How about easyubuntu?  Any problems with using that?  Or is there another one that people would recommend?
[12:31] <chuckyp> quickblaine, or ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf and what distro are you running?
[12:31] <nijan> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:31] <quickblaine> yeh i have that fille and its not blank
[12:32] <quickblaine> ubuntu 5.10
[12:32] <chell> is xgl going to be enabled by default in dapper?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> j-linux: easy ubuntu is safer by a long shot but i perfer to do things by hand its much easier
[12:32] <green_earz_> hi nige is it true the you run debain ?
[12:32] <chuckyp> nijan, #ubuntu-it for italian I beleive
[12:32] <gnomefreak> chell: for dapper dicusstion please join #ubuntu+1
[12:32] <chell> okay
[12:32] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: that is correct :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !it
[12:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <jafdet> quickblaine, what right are set on xorg.conf?
[12:32] <nijan> chuckyp, also .de doesn't work, but idle. Do you think is an italian servers problem?
[12:33] <g0dchild> #kubuntu
[12:33] <nige> yes i run debian
[12:33] <quickblaine> its read only if thats what you mean jafdet
[12:33] <chuckyp> nijan, I don't know I don't use italian servers.  I don't even know which repos i'm using I think they are the uk repos.
[12:33] <j-linux> gnomefreak: I help people get started with Ubuntu and there is no way they can do this stuff by hand... I thought automatix was great because it did everything, but I just heard that it's not good... Some people just want everything to work and never know what xorg.conf is... :S
[12:33] <chuckyp> quickblaine, what is your problem and what distro are you running?
[12:34] <balay> is there a way to get man pages for the header files of C ? to see their functions specifications .
[12:34] <gnomefreak> nige: try #debian for help with debian we only support ubuntu here
[12:34] <jafdet> quickblaine, read-only for everyone? can u say: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:34] <gnomefreak> balay: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:34] <remavalu> hi excuseme.... i have a tar package.... but ubuntu package pages gave me deb file
[12:34] <quickblaine> i am running ubuntu 5.10 and the problem is i cant get it to recognise my mouse, i have to use the trackpad which is really annoying
[12:34] <remavalu> how can i use deb packages?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> remavalu: what app?
[12:34] <chuckyp> !tell remavalu about dpkg
[12:35] <bjornkri> Any F1 fans here? This may seem off-topic, but the live timing java thing on f1.com doesn't work for me and I was hoping someone might know how to fix it. (It works fine in Firefox in Windows)
[12:35] <chuckyp> quickblaine, well you need to edit the xorg.conf and there is an input device section in there.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> remavalu: what package are you looking for a deb for?
[12:36] <jafdet> quickblaine, and what type of mouse u have?
[12:36] <quickblaine> yeh but the xorg.conf file is read only
[12:36] <quickblaine> its a 2 button ps2
[12:36] <chuckyp> quickblaine, not if you use sudo its not.  Should be writable by root.
[12:36] <gnomefreak> oh well brb
[12:36] <jafdet> quickblaine, if u r root, then u can edit it anyway
[12:36] <chuckyp> quickblaine, i.e. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or nano which ever you prefer.
[12:37] <remavalu> the shell say me: selected xwpe package that it wasn't
[12:37] <snadge> how do i get vmware to compile its kernel modules for breezy ubuntu? :)
[12:37] <jafdet> chuckyp, he just get black sreen as if this file is empty
[12:37] <remavalu> read database....... file & directory installed
[12:37] <snadge> i have install kernel-source-2.6.12 and its still not happy
[12:37] <remavalu> configured xwpe
[12:37] <gnomefreak> remavalu: what package are you looking for a tar is not a deb
[12:37] <chuckyp> remavalu, do sudo apt-get install xwpe
[12:37] <chuckyp> remavalu, will install the app for you.
[12:37] <remavalu> i must write that?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> xwpe in repos?
[12:38] <quickblaine> i did sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:38] <quickblaine>  and it opened a blank thing
[12:38] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, its in my dapper repos
[12:38] <[cro] smiley> how to run a program from console on diferent workspace?
[12:38] <milamber> lo there, ive got error message from repisitories, 404 file not found 403 forbidden, yesterday it worked today not, temporarily problem ?
[12:38] <balay> gnomefreak: I already got that , I run : apropos stdio  or apropos scanf , and it doesn't find any man page with that words!
[12:39] <remavalu> ok i did it.... say 0 file added...... so deb package install me..... & now i must know command to use it?
[12:39] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, change workspaces opena console and start the program
[12:39] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, or hit alt+F2 in that workspace and type the name of the program.
[12:39] <jafdet> quickblaine, sudo is working if u r the first user after root in system, or if u in Admin group, maybe u have another users?
[12:39] <chuckyp> remavalu, your english is really hard to understand you may want to try to join the channel #ubuntu-it
[12:39] <[cro] smiley> chuckyp, no i want from workspace 1 start a program on workspace 2
[12:39] <remavalu> yes..... :P
[12:40] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, hrm... hold up a sec let me see i'll have to look that one up.
[12:40] <remavalu> ok chuckyp :P
[12:40] <[cro] smiley> chuckyp, without changing workspace
[12:40] <remavalu> thanks a lot ;)
[12:41] <enkrav> Hello, I noticed a flaw in ubuntu: A user should be able to change his password graphically, but it does not work if he's not in sudoers. He's forced to remember the "passwd" command
[12:42] <chell> Do you guys know any good website for free music?
[12:42] <bimberi> enkrav: System -> Preferences -> About Me ??
[12:43] <manish_m> hello
[12:43] <balay> chell: free download or free listening?
[12:43] <kbrooks> FLIGHT5?
[12:44] <bimberi> kbrooks: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[12:44] <gnomefreak> balay: did you type word man first?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: flights are alpha releases
[12:44] <elkbuntu> kbrooks, and #ubuntu+1 is the appropriate place for discussion about it
[12:44] <balay> gnomefreak: where ?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> balay: in terminal type man <what you are looking for
[12:45] <altwizard> hey, Can Any1 tell me why the nvidia drivers take soo long to load when booting into ubuntu ? I mean, the splash screen takes 2 Mins to load
[12:45] <gnomefreak> balay: like man dpkg  will give you the dpkg man page
[12:46] <gnomefreak> altwizard: it doesnt :( but you can get rid of the splash screen
[12:46] <[Leo] > hi all
[12:47] <fer> hello
[12:47] <altwizard> gnomefreak: Do You know if there is a howto on howto ( :p) remove it??
[12:47] <sebastian> guys
[12:47] <sebastian> i have a networking question
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell altwizard about nvidia
[12:47] <balay> yeah , I've try : man stdio.h , man glibc , man libc , and there's no results , that's wy I tried to look for those keywords in man pages ( apropros glibc/libc/etc) . And i got no results
[12:47] <gnomefreak> altwizard: its on that page
[12:48] <sebastian> what is the best/quickest/cheapest way to set up wireless netwwork at home?
[12:48] <kingfisher> hi all
[12:48] <gnomefreak> balay: did you try man apropos?
[12:48] <[Leo] > sebastian: with or without encryption?
[12:48] <elkbuntu> sebastian, if it's not specifically an ubuntu question, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <chell> rythmbox rules... just listening to virgin
[12:49] <sebastian> [Leo] , without encryption
[12:49] <Nogimics> What's the difference between Unix and Linux?
[12:50] <balay> yeah , but didn't actually read it lol . I'll do that now . tks
[12:50] <roccociro> #-ubuntu-it
[12:50] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, there is something called matched windows you could use but I think its dated.
[12:50] <elkbuntu> Nogimics, there's no one difference
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: unix is the backing of linux like dos is the backing of windows
[12:50] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
[12:50] <roccociro> #debia-it
[12:50] <roccociro> #debian-it
[12:50] <Nogimics> so who made unix?
[12:50] <chuckyp> Nogimics, its not really the backing its the daddy.
[12:51] <meta> nogimics - Unix systems were designed in the old days in academic and commercial places, like Bell Labs and MIT
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: this is better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:51] <[cro] smiley> chuckyp, thanx ill try
[12:51] <Nogimics> heh ok gnomefreak
[12:51] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, I don't know if there is a better way perhaps check in #gnome
[12:51] <meta> nogimics - and when people like Stallman saw it was going to be commercialised they decided to make it free with GNU (GNU is Not Unix) with the same design principals, but different code
[12:51] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, there might be something built in.
[12:52] <chuckyp> meta, you forgot linus
[12:52] <remavalu> gcc is included in ubuntu?
[12:52] <[cro] smiley> chuckyp, ok thax a lot
[12:52] <chuckyp> [cro] smiley, np
[12:52] <blrich> can someone point me to a good howto/manual for setting up apache2 on ubuntu? i've come from gentoo and it seems to be very different
[12:52] <chuckyp> remavalu, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:52] <meta> remavalu - not by default, "apt-get build-essentials"
[12:52] <elkbuntu> remavalu, sort of, it doesnt install by default but it's on the CD. you can install it by installing the 'build-essential' package
[12:53] <remavalu> thanks
[12:53] <elkbuntu> blrich, it's not hard, in fact, it's so easy it's not funny
[12:54] <meta> chuckyp - linus only comes in using GPL in 1990-1 whereas Stallman is doing his stuff in the 80s, I start the story at Stallman.... not to say linus is unimportant, just that's where the story starts
[12:54] <blrich> elkbuntu, okay, but i just don't know where to start
[12:54] <chell> where can I get "rar" for ubuntu? It's not in the repos...
[12:54] <gnomefreak> guys #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:54] <elkbuntu> blrich, i'll explain in pm
[12:54] <Nogimics> meta and people thought we were discussing this in #ubuntu-offtopic lol
[12:54] <blrich> elkbuntu, i used to install apache2 raw and used the apache2 guide for setting it up, ubuntu seems to set up the configuration for it very differently
[12:54] <blrich> elkbuntu, okay thanks
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chell about rar
[12:54] <brach> Just a humble input of something prolly already known...im on Dapper Drake flight5 i386 live cd w/ a built by ATI 9600xt gfxcard   and all my screensavers are flickering bad (epilepsy bad)
[12:55] <chell> I don't want to access them via the unpacker software... I need the commandline tool "rar"
[12:55] <gnomefreak> brach: #ubuntu+1 is for dapper
[12:55] <brach> whoops
[12:55] <brach> heh
[12:55] <kbrooks> question.
[12:55] <Nogimics> I guess nobody wants to chat about it in that room gnomefreak and I would like to know :D
[12:55] <elkbuntu> blrich, are you gettitng my PM?
[12:56] <altwizard> Could Any1 tell me if there is why  AmaroK  and for that matter anything that uses sound dosnt seem to give any audio output after running a previous program that uses sound
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: ask meta to join you in there and to tell you everything all over again or scroll
[12:56] <nhaines> ubotu tell nhaines about rar
[12:56] <elkbuntu> altwizard, make sure alsa is the output engine
[12:56] <kbrooks> is itt fair if  a ubuntu member kicks anyone out of here just because they speak out against them? *wondering*
[12:56] <Gorth-> Is it possible to install Ubuntu _onto_ a fat32 partition?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> chell: your looking for a cli unpacking tool for rars?
[12:56] <chell> no. I want to install a program that requires "rar"
[12:57] <kbrooks> Gorth-, No. At least, I don't think so.
[12:57] <tux> o
[12:57] <Gorth-> kbrooks: ahh ok, I was hoping it was possible to do so via. some sort of loopback
[12:57] <altwizard> elkbuntu : Should alsa be  the output engine in all the software?
[12:57] <chell> so any idea where I can get that?
[12:57] <kbrooks> Gorth-, permissioins on a fat32 filesystem are limited to 644 (read/write, read, read)
[12:57] <chuckyp> Gorth-, you could probably do it as an img on fat32.  Would be pointless though.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: well depends who and what was said but still this convo needs to be between you and that person in #ubuntu-offtopic or better yet privately
[12:58] <chuckyp> !rar
[12:58] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:58] <blrich> elkbuntu, i am getting your PM, and replying, but you don't seem to be able to see it
[12:58] <chuckyp> chell, ^^^^^^^^^^
[12:58] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, it
[12:58] <elkbuntu> altwizard, i dont know about all the software, but it's what i needed to make amarok work
[12:58] <kbrooks> er
[12:58] <chell> I do not want to access RAR files through the archive manager
[12:58] <Gorth-> chuckyp: yeah, that was what I was thinking. Why would it be pointless? ;)
[12:58] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, its a question.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> chell: do you want to make a rar file?
[12:58] <nhaines> No, it couldn't really be done on a FAT32 fs as an image, because there's a 2.1GB file limit and Ubuntu takes up that much just for a basic install.
[12:58] <elkbuntu> blrich, is your nick registered on freenode?
[12:58] <blrich> elkbuntu, that would be it
[12:58] <chuckyp> Gorth-, There are all sorts of reasons that I don't really want to get into here.
[12:59] <kbrooks> chuckyp, hah.
[12:59] <chuckyp> Gorth-, maybe some people on #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:59] <chell> again no. I have a progam here right. It requires a tool named "rar" (it's a command line tool) to run
[12:59] <blrich> elkbuntu, reg'd now
[12:59] <Gorth-> chuckyp: That's ok.
[12:59] <chuckyp> !tell chell about rar
[12:59] <kbrooks> nhaines, there isnt a 2.1gb file limit on fat32. were you thinking about fat?
[12:59] <xbit_> hello. i'm new in linux at all, and i've got lot of questions. the first one: how can i get acces to my ntfs partitions?
[12:59] <chuckyp> chell, rar is a compressed file?
[12:59] <chell> there IS a command line tool. It is called rar
[12:59] <chell> I need it
[12:59] <kbrooks> xbit_, well, see the topic.
[01:00] <chuckyp> chell, well if you would read the fn link you would have it already
[01:00] <nhaines> Oh, on FAT32 is it 4.xGB?
[01:00] <chell> really?
[01:00] <kbrooks> nhaines, No.
[01:00] <sp3ed> anyone knows what the "$str" means in shellscript?
[01:00] <kbrooks> nhaines,  fat32 worked for me on a 20gb hd
[01:00] <sp3ed> i mean what the " " dose
[01:00] <kbrooks> nhaines, (in windows)
[01:00] <chell> I did read it
[01:00] <chuckyp> chell, really because its riht here in the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[01:01] <chell> I read it
[01:01] <chuckyp> Well then I can't help you.
[01:01] <chell> it doesn't say where or how to get the nonfree rar tool
[01:01] <nhaines> kbrooks, I not talking about partition size limits, I'm talking about file size limits.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> sp3ed: check the abs guide in your repos or try #ubuntu-offtopic for programming needs
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !rar
[01:01] <ubotu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:01] <chuckyp> chell, if you refuse to read the link i'm not going to waste the time explaining it.  I even sent you a direct link to the section you need to read.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> it says non-free adn gives a link
[01:01] <jetscreamer> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=184006
[01:01] <chell> I did read the link mate
[01:02] <kbrooks> nhaines, well, i havent testred that on win32
[01:02] <ppd> hi. what program do you use for recording from your analogue tv card?
[01:02] <chell> sorrsy
[01:02] <chell> I am just having a bad day
[01:02] <kbrooks> nhaines, and now: what is the partition size limit for fat32?
[01:02] <jetscreamer> You cannot create a file larger than (2^32)-1 bytes (this is one byte less than 4 GB) on a FAT32 partition.
[01:02] <jetscreamer> 2tb i think
[01:03] <jetscreamer> The maximum disk size is approximately 8 terabytes when you take into account the following variables: The maximum possible number of clusters on a FAT32 volume is 268,435,445, and there is a maximum of 32 KB per cluster, along with the space required for the file allocation table (FAT).
[01:03] <jafdet> chell http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#rar
[01:03] <chuckyp> Gorth-, http://www.maxpc.co.uk/tips/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=7192&subsectionid=718&subsubsectionid=563 there good read for your fat32 idea
[01:03] <kbrooks> jafdet, dont recommend this ubuntu guide
[01:04] <Lani2> I've searched the forums trying to find out how to install MySQL5, but there are references to alot of things that I don't understand and some suggests that I should compile it myself, are there no package for MySQL5?
[01:04] <jafdet> kbrooks, why?
[01:04] <kbrooks> its (no, you dont need to apologize) out of date and unofficial
[01:04] <chuckyp> !mysql5
[01:04] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[01:04] <chuckyp> Lani2, there is something about it in the wiki
[01:04] <jafdet> kbrooks, ok, tnx
[01:05] <chuckyp> Lani2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MYSQL5FromSource
[01:05] <kbrooks> jafdet, let me check though
[01:05] <Lani2> chuckyp: yes, but in the forums they suggest against doing that?
[01:05] <chuckyp> Lani2, against doing it from source?
[01:05] <chuckyp> Lani2, why?
[01:06] <kbrooks> jafdet, yeah checked the site and its the old ubuntu guide
[01:06] <kbrooks> jafdet, i wasnt sure if i was right.
[01:06] <nhaines> Ah, a fellow Californian.  Welcome, subadditive.  :)
[01:06] <Lani2> chuckyp: because it only has default language encoding and is compiled in with static linking that breaks many stuff and so on
[01:06] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[01:06] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:06] <kbrooks> jafdet, ^^^
[01:06] <chuckyp> Lani2, well then I don't know how else you'd do it unless you find a deb somewhere.
[01:07] <jafdet> kbrooks, i see
[01:07] <Lani2> chukyp: yes they say that there is a deb, that have worked for many people, but I don't eaven know what a deb is?
[01:07] <chuckyp> !tell Lani2 about deb
[01:08] <gnomefreak> what app are we looking for?
[01:08] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, mysql5
[01:08] <gnomefreak> ill look for a deb
[01:08] <chuckyp> Lani2, a deb is just a package that installs the software for you.
[01:09] <Lani2> chuckyp: ah ok
[01:09] <nhaines> I have a question.  I need to specify the default gateway device for one of my Breezy computers.  On startup, it has no network connection, but going into network-admin and selecting eth0 makes it all work.
[01:09] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: you on breezy by chance?
[01:09] <Howitzer> Is it possible to have only the nautilus file browser on xubuntu, and not have the nautilus desktop?
[01:09] <Howitzer> like still being able to right-click for the menu and so on
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Lani2: are you on breezy also?
[01:09] <bjornkri> I'm trying to make something, but almost immediately I get the following "error cfgfile.c:35:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory" and then everything goes down the tubes. Does this mean anything to anyone?
[01:09] <Howitzer> bjornkri, sudo apt-get install curses
[01:10] <Lani2> gnomefreak: eh, i think so ;)
[01:10] <jafdet> Lani2, actuly deb is just an ar archive
[01:10] <dsas> Howitzer: yes i believe so, you'll just have to make sure that nautilus isn't set to start up when you login.
[01:10] <Lani2> gnomefreak: i've started to understand that ubuntu names there versions? so that 5.10 is named breezy? is that asumption correct?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Lani2: apt-cache search shows me mysql5 but im not on breezy what does yours say when you run that
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Lani2: yes
[01:11] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, really I don't see it.
[01:11] <bjornkri> Howitzer: no such thing, but there is something called libcurses4, how does that sound?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: on dapper?
[01:11] <Howitzer> dsas, but when i start nautilus in the term, i get the usual ubuntu desktop with its wallpaper and icons
[01:11] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, what'd you search for?  yeah on dapper
[01:11] <gnomefreak> let me policy for it
[01:11] <Howitzer> bjornkri, yep that's the one
[01:11] <chuckyp> err never mind.
[01:11] <bjornkri> libncurses, actually
[01:11] <dsas> Howitzer: i think you have to use nautilus --no-desktop or something
[01:11] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:11] <Howitzer> ty
[01:11] <chuckyp> Lani2, try apt-cache search mysql-server
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> In wich directory is located my ntfs partition??
[01:11] <nhaines> Lani2, they're codenames.  :)  Breezy Badger is the current release, and Dapper Drake will be the next one in April or May.
[01:11] <Howitzer> woo
[01:11] <Howitzer> it worked
[01:12] <Howitzer> thanks a lot!
[01:12] <dsas> Howitzer: no probs.
[01:12] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, its not in any directory yet.  Unless you mounted it
[01:12] <chuckyp> !tell Ropechoborra about ntfs
[01:12] <Lani2> chuckyup: i only get version 4.1 when i do a apt-cache search
[01:12] <Lani2> nhaines: ok :)
[01:13] <chuckyp> Lani2, when you do a search for mysql-server
[01:13] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: its in main repo for dapper apt-cache policy mysql-client-5.0 :)
[01:13] <chuckyp> ?
[01:13] <Lani2> chuckyp: yes
[01:13] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp, Ajap, so i type "mount /mnt /<what?>
[01:13] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, I know i found it I wasn't seeing it searching for mysql I had to search for mysql-server
[01:13] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, just read the site that ubotu sent you.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:14] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp,  ok thankx
[01:14] <gnomefreak> the thing im thinking is i dont think breezy came with 5.0 (not really sure though)
[01:14] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, it will explain stuff better than i will.
[01:14] <irma> hai
[01:14] <chuckyp> Lani2, yeah I don't believe 5 is availible.  unless through a backport for breezy but you may be able to find a deb and install that.
[01:15] <irma> hai
[01:16] <Lani2> chuckyp: ok, but drapper drake isn't final? and maybe nothing for a linux newbe to install at this time?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Lani2: correct
[01:16] <Lani2> ok
[01:16] <gnomefreak> dapper not drapper
[01:16] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:16] <Lani2> ah ok :)
[01:17] <kbrooks> Lani2, dapper drake might not be released on april 20. it might be in may (6 week proposal...)
[01:17] <nhaines> Lani2, dapper is scheduled for 20 April 2006, but may be delayed 6 weeks to add more polish.  They'll make that decision soon.
[01:17] <SeriousSven> good afternoon, has anyone some information on the Intel 875i chipset? (canterwood)
[01:17] <SeriousSven> cuz Ubuntu works
[01:17] <kbrooks> nhaines, in 2 days, actually.
[01:17] <gnomefreak> tuesday :)
[01:17] <kbrooks> nhaines, two meetings on tuesday
[01:17] <messi[ah] > hey guys.. can anyone help me with this: http://www.phpfi.com/106840 im trying to install atk .. compiled glib 2.9.6 by myself but its still complaining.. ?
[01:17] <SeriousSven> but no other distro works with my chipset...
[01:17] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[01:17] <chuckyp> Lani2, you can try these but they are not official
[01:18] <chuckyp> Lani2, http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/sarge/mysql-5.0/
[01:18] <elkbuntu> we shouldnt speculate too much just yet
[01:18] <nhaines> nhaines, acording to the sabdfl, it'll be decided by the Technical and Community Councils a week after Tuesday.
[01:18] <kbrooks> chuckyp, do not recommend that.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> nhaines: gets the mailing list too yay finally someone other than me :)
[01:18] <Lani2> chuckyp: I also just found that page :) so it's safe to install debian packages with ubuntu as ubuntu is derivered from debian?
[01:19] <nhaines> kbrooks Actually, I suppose it'll be "by the end of the week" that we'll know.  :)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Lani2: not really
[01:19] <nhaines> gnomefreak, best way to keep up to date.  :)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> yes it is :)
[01:19] <elkbuntu> Lani2, chuckyp it is not always recommended. you do so at your own risk
[01:19] <chuckyp> Lani2, Like I said its not official and it won't be supported.  Its kinda enter at your own risk type thing.
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Lani2: hold on i might just have something for ya
[01:20] <_a-dam> has anyone had success configuring freenet on Ubuntu?
[01:20] <Lani2> well i just installed ubuntu to use it with mysql5, php and ruby on rails, so if i can't get that to work I might as well give it a try
[01:21] <Lani2> and to learn some linux :)
[01:21] <nhaines> Lani2, debian packages are not always compatible with Ubuntu.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> mysql5.0 can _only_ be installed by compiling
[01:21] <Lani2> ok, i can see some people in the forum that says that they have used the deb package with success
[01:21] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28mysql%29
[01:22] <Ropechoborra> How do i switch work spaces with the keyboard ?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> unless Seveas packaged it i know he has lamp but not sure what version of mysql he has in it
[01:22] <Ropechoborra> In graph mode
[01:22] <nhaines> Ctrl-Alt-Left or Right
[01:22] <Ropechoborra> Love ya
[01:22] <Ropechoborra> =)
[01:22] <elkbuntu> !lamp
[01:22] <ubotu> I heard lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:22] <tarzeau> does someone use qc-usb-source on 2.6 kernels?
[01:22] <Seveas> gnomefreak, dapper has mysql 5
[01:23] <Seveas> I though breezy had it too - but could be wrong
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Seveas: this person is on breezy
[01:23] <rysiek|pl> hi there, guys
[01:23] <chuckyp> Seveas, yes its availible in the repos as well as 4
[01:23] <elkbuntu> moin seveas!
[01:23] <gnomefreak> the wiki says it has to be compiled in 5.10
[01:23] <_a-dam> looking for help with freenet
[01:23] <Seveas> ah, breezy hasn't
[01:23] <elkbuntu> not even in backports?
[01:23] <Seveas> no
[01:24] <elkbuntu> phpmyadmin looks and acts weird with 5 too i've noticed
[01:24] <Lani2> everything that has worked so well untill know, i really started to like ubuntu, everything was so easy, but someone in here warned me that that was not always the case ;)
[01:25] <gargas> sorry gyus can you suggest any mp3 player?
[01:25] <richardv> hello... do anyone can help ? do where I see the list of packages to install xgl ?
[01:25] <Seveas> !xgl
[01:25] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:25] <richardv> tks...
[01:25] <chuckyp> gargas, rythmbox
[01:25] <messi[ah] > only on dapper `?
[01:25] <messi[ah] > sad
[01:25] <Marlun> If I install something from source-code into my home directory, is there a special way of "uninstalling" it or can I just remove the files?
[01:25] <takedown> gargas: amarok, xmms
[01:25] <ViennaLinux> what xorg version comes with ubuntu???
[01:25] <Seveas> Marlun, just remove
[01:25] <Marlun> Seveas: ok, thanks
[01:25] <rysiek|pl> ok, anybody knows, why these are FALSE during boot-up (they're in the /etc/init.d/usplash script): 1. pidof usplash > /dev/null 2. [ "$(fgconsole 2>/dev/null)" = "8" ] 
[01:26] <Seveas> ViennaLinux, dapper: 7.0 breezy: 6.8.2 which actually is close to 6.9 and 7
[01:26] <ViennaLinux> Seveas: thx
[01:26] <Marlun> Anyone knows if there is a bugzilla irc channel somewhere?
[01:26] <rysiek|pl> they're responsible for the console font not being set properly :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Marlun: ubuntu doesnt use bugzilla any longer
[01:27] <Marlun> gnomefreak: the question doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu =) I just wanted to know if theres a bugzilla irc channel somewhere :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Marlun: there might be did you try #bugzilla????
[01:28] <grogoreo> hi
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> 'ello
[01:28] <nhaines> Hi, grogoreo.  :)
[01:28] <Marlun> gnomefreak: yeah ;P
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Marlun: questions unrelated to ubuntu please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, its on irc.mozilla.org
[01:29] <grogoreo> if I dist-upgraded my current breezy install to dapper flight, would it be easy enough to then dist-upgrade to the proper Dapper when it comes out?
[01:29] <rysiek|pl> yep
[01:29] <nhaines> You just do normal updates until then, grogoreo.  :)
[01:30] <rysiek|pl> you won't even have to change the repos in sources.list
[01:30] <nhaines> Well, a dist-upgrade is needed now and again, but basically everything stays the same, all the repos and everything.
[01:31] <rysiek|pl> I always do dist-upgrade rather than just upgrade
[01:31] <unimatrix9> hello
[01:31] <rysiek|pl> yell'oh
[01:31] <gnomefreak> me too it gets everything at one time :)
[01:31] <unimatrix9> any one here used the ubuntu live cd 5.10
[01:31] <Sparky34> hi
[01:31] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[01:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:31] <grogoreo> nhaines, so I would just do:    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper    or    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-flight?
[01:31] <Sparky34> no, i have installed kubuntu on my computer
[01:31] <unimatrix9> i get an error with gparted, did some ine get that too?
[01:31] <nhaines> grogoreo, just dapper.
[01:32] <gnomefreak> grogoreo: are you sure you want to upgrade to dapper now?
[01:32] <grogoreo> nhaines, ok, thanks
[01:32] <Gambit-> hey guys
[01:32] <nhaines> grogoreo, but please be aware that dapper is not too stable yet.
[01:32] <grogoreo> gnomefreak, I hear it's quite stable
[01:32] <gnomefreak> grogoreo: who you hear that from?
[01:32] <Gambit-> someone have a list of repositories for 5.10 including universal and multiverse?
[01:32] <grogoreo> just reading on forums
[01:32] <grogoreo> isn't it?
[01:32] <nhaines> grogoreo, your experience will probably vary pretty wildly, and even from day to day.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> grogoreo: its not stable (in the sense that it can break and render you ubuntuless at any time)
[01:33] <nhaines> grogoreo, there's still a lot of shifting around and tweaking to do, so things can break and just not work for a few days.  I would hesitate to install it on my only computer.
[01:33] <grogoreo> nhaines, gnomefreak: ok, I'll try it out on another computer then. Thanks guys
[01:33] <gnomefreak> they have alot of work to do on OOo
[01:35] <drshiv> How do I install the new icons that I downloaded?
[01:36] <Gambit-> If I put a packages line in my sources.list file as "main restricted universe multiverse" will it pull in all pacakges?
[01:37] <Ropechoborra> got a problem... i want to install my video card driver, in the readme.txt says 2.  Go to the directory where you saved the driver package and type:
[01:37] <Ropechoborra>         a.  rpm -i dri-I915-v1.1-20041217.i386.rpm
[01:37] <Ropechoborra>         Note:  The console prompt will reappear in a few moments
[01:37] <Ropechoborra>  but when i do that is says Command not found
[01:37] <nhaines> Gambit-, yes.
[01:37] <k31th> Hi, my squirrelmail is not working its picking up mail fine but not sending it... I logged onto the mailserver locally using telnet to port 25 and i could send mail fine
[01:37] <Gambit-> nhaines, so I don't need to have multiple lines?
[01:37] <k31th> but SM wont send it. Any ideals ?
[01:37] <nhaines> Gambit-, Nope.  :)
[01:37] <Gambit-> nhaines, heh ok, let me try to put all that together.
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> Ropechoborra: Ubuntu is a *.deb, not *.rpm, based distribution
[01:38] <gnomefreak> brb gonna work on homepage
[01:38] <Ropechoborra> rysiek|pl,  how do i convert the file then... ?
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> Ropechoborra: so id doesn't use the rpm command
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> Ropechoborra: alien it :]  just read man alien
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> !alien
[01:38] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:38] <nhaines> Ropechoborra, You can't convert it.  You can use the alien command but it is not guarenteeed to work.
[01:38] <Ropechoborra> Oka =)
[01:39] <Gambit-> warning, alien may hug your face and implant things in your tummy.
[01:39] <rysiek|pl> Ropechoborra: but I would look for a deb file from the driver vendor
[01:40] <snadge> how do i turn my ubuntu kernel source package into one which allows me to add other modules etc to it?
[01:40] <bunniears2> hey everyone#
[01:40] <bunniears2> can someone tell me what this means: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:41] <nhaines> bunniears2, it means you must install build-essentials
[01:41] <sophtpaw> when i click on wineExplorer the computer just freezes up now
[01:41] <bunniears2> ty :)
[01:41] <chuckyp> bunniears2, you need the package build-essential   NO S
[01:42] <bunniears2> installing now :)
[01:42] <snadge> im having trouble building the kqemu part of qemu.. has anyone here got this working before?
[01:42] <kbrooks> chuckyp, hey, NO CAPS.
[01:42] <bunniears2> thanks chuckyp & nhaines
[01:42] <toxic_> Hi, quick bash Q. Having a simple bash script, why do I need to call: bash myscript and not use ./myscipt ?
[01:42] <sophtpaw> when i try and open Explorer using wine the computer freezes up; this has just happened overnite.
[01:42] <chuckyp> kbrooks, i like caps everyone says build-essentials when its build-essential
[01:42] <sophtpaw> Can someone tell me why this might be
[01:42] <Ropechoborra> If you want to convert packages into debian packages, you will need the dpkg, dpkg-dev <-- I already have that... dont i ?
[01:42] <chuckyp> kbrooks, and it confuses people.
[01:43] <nhaines> Grr, I always--every single time--forget if there's an s or not.  :)
[01:43] <kbrooks> chuckyp, a factoid?
[01:43] <rysiek|pl> Ropechorra: apt-get install dpkg-dev
[01:43] <Ropechoborra> oka
[01:43] <sophtpaw> i installed kubuntu on my other partition, the buggy 6.04 version, could that possibly have infected my system?
[01:43] <rysiek|pl> (do it as root, of course :) )
[01:43] <toxic_> Having a simple bash script, why do I need to call: bash myscript and not use ./myscipt ?
[01:43] <sophtpaw> anyone?
[01:44] <rysiek|pl> sophtpaw: no, rather unlikely
[01:44] <Whatsisname> toxic_,
[01:44] <bjornkri> is it executable?
[01:44] <Whatsisname> is it executable
[01:44] <Gambit-> toxic_, place the directory the script is in in your path.
[01:44] <rysiek|pl> what do you mean by "infected", sophtpaw
[01:44] <Whatsisname> Gambit-, that is a bad solution
[01:44] <sophtpaw> does wine just grind to a halt after a certain amount of use
[01:44] <toxic_> Whatsisname, oh .. Thanks
[01:44] <Gambit-> toxic_, but be careful, it's easy to open yourself to problems that way.
[01:44] <toxic_> Gambit-, I'll probably just move the script to the bash path I guess
[01:44] <sophtpaw> rysiek|pl: well that kubuntu is buggy and in some way is affecting the performance of Breezy in Ubuntu
[01:44] <Whatsisname> toxic_, just make it executable
[01:44] <bjornkri> !wine
[01:45] <karachi> hi, Can anyone guide me regarding "Asterisk-Installation" on Ubuntu
[01:45] <Whatsisname> or run sh whateverbashscriptnameis
[01:45] <sophtpaw> I know ludicrous idea - just grasping at straws
[01:45] <karachi> I have doenloaded it
[01:45] <karachi> hi, Can anyone guide me regarding "Asterisk-Installation" on Ubuntu
[01:45] <sophtpaw> ...for an explanation
[01:45] <toxic_> Whatsisname, thx
[01:45] <Whatsisname> because even if the path environment variable points to wherever said script is
[01:45] <rysiek|pl> sophtpaw: no, it's impossible, IMHO
[01:45] <Whatsisname> again, if it doesnt have executable file permission set, its not going to run
[01:45] <Whatsisname> simple as that
[01:45] <rysiek|pl> sophtpaw: if it uses a different partition - it uses different config files, different executables and so on
[01:45] <sophtpaw> well, you got any ideas why apparently suddenly i can't use Explorere
[01:46] <karachi> Have anyone ever installed a working Asterisk VoIP PBX on UBUNTU ??
[01:46] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, because its a windows app.
[01:46] <sophtpaw> chuckyp: like i said i use wineExplorer
[01:46] <sophtpaw> obviously...
[01:47] <karachi> I have downloaded the source of Asterisk VoIP PBX but can not get it perfectly installed
[01:47] <sophtpaw> is it expected that it would just cease after some time
[01:47] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, I dunnomaybe ask the wine poeple. I don't use that app and wine is buggy.
[01:47] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, #winehq
[01:47] <sophtpaw> ok! thx!
[01:48] <chuckyp> !tell karachi about anyone
[01:48] <dollar> everyone.. can u please tell me how to change my root password and also my user password because i think my friends have them and said they could hack into my system
[01:48] <Whatsisname> use the passwd command
[01:48] <nhaines> dollar, there is no root password.  The account is disabled.
[01:48] <chuckyp> dollar, well if you never set a root password you don't have one
[01:48] <sophtpaw> what would be the way to uninstall wineExplorer if i wanted to start fresh again
[01:48] <Whatsisname> and it looks like its time to find some new friends
[01:48] <karachi> Asterisk VoIP PBX Installation ???
[01:48] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, I thnk wine has an unistaller but i'm not sure.,
[01:48] <karachi> Asterisk VoIP PBX Installation ???
[01:49] <rysiek|pl> dollar: passwd
[01:49] <rysiek|pl> if you execute that as a user, you'll change the password for that user
[01:49] <dollar> no they're teasing me ... they installed linux for me and i know nothing abt it
[01:49] <nhaines> karachi, no one here seems to have experience with Asterisk.  Perhaps you could try the Ubuntu forums?
[01:49] <Whatsisname> then look up the usage for the passwd command
[01:49] <Whatsisname> man passwd
[01:49] <sophtpaw> chuckyp: ok, i'm asking winehq, maybe they'll know
[01:49] <karachi> ok thanks nhaines
[01:50] <dollar> and i know there's a root password cuz when we installed linux it asked to put a root password
[01:50] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, yeah they would know for sure.  My buddy is not online right now I'd ask him he's a wine freak.
[01:50] <karachi> how to search for Ubuntu Forums
[01:50] <chuckyp> dollar, well are you running ubuntu?
[01:50] <chuckyp> karachi, click on "search"
[01:50] <dollar> yeah but with KDE
[01:50] <chuckyp> dollar, so
[01:50] <nhaines> dollar, then they did an expert install.  Try typing 'sudo passwd'
[01:50] <chuckyp> dollar, the only password it asked for was your user password
[01:50] <nhaines> No, that doesn't work, does it?
[01:50] <nhaines> Bummer.  :)
[01:50] <nijan> Hello, I'm trying to play some mp3 from amarok. I'm using gstreamer as engine and osssink for output, it seems to work, but if I try to use alsasink it fails. Using ossink, but it disallow me for reproducing any sound from other media player saying the sound server is already in use. What should I look for?
[01:50] <sophtpaw> thx chuckyp- there should be some winefreaks over at #winehq too, : )
[01:51] <chuckyp> dollar, well change the passwd of your user.
[01:51] <dollar> don't tell me so man.. i know nothin abt linux,,, i spent 30 min to find where i can get ur support :P
[01:51] <chuckyp> dollar, then to be sure you can sudo passwd  to change the passwd for root.
[01:51] <Gambit-> hmmm
[01:51] <chuckyp> dollar, well if you open a terminal and type in man passwd it will tell you how to use it.  then you hit q to quit
[01:52] <Gambit-> On a fresh 5.10 system I do a apt-get upgrade, and it says two packages have been kept back, any ideas what that means?
[01:52] <Whatsisname> it means it won't upgrade them for some "good" reason
[01:52] <chuckyp> Gambit-, it means those packages where kept back.
[01:52] <nhaines> Gambit-, it means that there were dependancy problems and you should use apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:52] <Gambit-> ok, like previous dependencies requiring that version?
[01:52] <Gambit-> ahh
[01:52] <dollar> yeah i changed the user password
[01:52] <Whatsisname> an example "good" reason is becuase it knows it will break something if it upgrades
[01:52] <Gambit-> should I do dist-upgrade and then upgrade, or upgrade and then dist-upgrade?
[01:52] <dollar> i'm gonna try sude passwd now
[01:52] <dollar> thx u guys
[01:52] <nhaines> Just dist-upgrade.
[01:52] <Whatsisname> do you want to use dapper
[01:53] <Gambit-> dist-upgrade does upgrade underneath?
[01:53] <Whatsisname> because thats what dist-upgrade will do
[01:53] <Gambit-> I think for production staying on 5.10 atm is the smart thing to do, yes?
[01:53] <Whatsisname> or, at least thats what its meant to do
[01:53] <Whatsisname> yes
[01:53] <Whatsisname> then just do upgrade
[01:53] <nhaines> Gambit-, upgrade has a built-in safety check.
[01:53] <Whatsisname> don't dist-upgrade
[01:53] <Ropechoborra> how do i install my video drivers (the file is .tar.gz) ??
[01:53] <Whatsisname> dist-upgrade will upgrade everything and not care about things breaking
[01:53] <nhaines> Gambit-, something changed that is more major, so you can either use dist-upgrade, or just upgrade and go into Synaptic and check on the held-back packages.
[01:54] <chuckyp> Whatsisname, actually dist-upgrade is the smart way of upgrading.
[01:54] <kbrooks> Whatsisname, wrong.
[01:54] <nhaines> Gambit-, Whatsisname is not correct about it upgrading to Dapper.
[01:54] <Gambit-> or whether you're upgrading from release to a middle version?
[01:54] <chuckyp> Whatsisname, and upgrade just upgrades installed packages.
[01:54] <Whatsisname> Ropechoborra, unpack them using tar then read the INSTALL file contained within
[01:54] <chuckyp> Gambit-, what you want to do after install of breezy for production.  then apt-get update  then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <Gambit-> hmm
[01:54] <chuckyp> Gambit-, dist-upgrade does a smart upgrade and removal of un needed packages.  If you don't believe me do a man apt-get and read.
[01:55] <Gambit-> well wtf, it's a vanilla system, only thing lost if it all dies in flames is my time :D
[01:55] <Gambit-> yeah I'm pulling up man pages as we speak :)
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> Whatsisname, i unpack it in graphic mode, you mean Install.sh ?
[01:55] <Whatsisname> no i mean INSTALL
[01:55] <chuckyp> Gambit-, vanilla system is probably just terminal no x no desktop apps.
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> MM
[01:55] <Gambit-> chuckyp, not probably, it is.
[01:55] <Whatsisname> it will contain installation instructions
[01:55] <nhaines> Gambit-, once Dapper comes out, you can use dist-upgrade to update your Breezy system.  But you must first manually change your repositories, or it'll stay as Breezy.
[01:56] <nhaines> Gambit-, so it is quite safe (as far as not surprising you with a development release!).
[01:56] <Ropechoborra> Whatsisname, cant find it :(
[01:56] <Gambit-> nhaines, This machine's getting configured and then sent out into the wild, patching opportunities will be pretty slim afterwards.
[01:56] <Whatsisname> what kind of video card drivers are you trying to install
[01:56] <nhaines> Gambit-, my main point is that dist-upgrade won't suddenly throw you ahead into dapper.
[01:57] <Gambit-> nhaines, Right, that's an important detail, and more in line with what I'd expect :)
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> The file is called i915Graphics.tar.gz and its the official driver for an oboard intel video card
[01:57] <Gambit-> nhaines, it's all based on whats in the sources.list file anyways, isn't it?
[01:57] <zipper> !xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:57] <nhaines> Gambit-, yes, precisely.
[01:57] <Whatsisname> did you look for instructions on intels site
[01:57] <Gambit-> nhaines, cheers for the info :)
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> Yeap... Ill paste the line i dont understand
[01:58] <chuckyp> 915 drivers are in apt I thought
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> 1.  Ensure the X-server is not currently running.
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> 2.  Go to the directory where you saved the driver package and type:
[01:58] <Ropechoborra>         a.  rpm -i dri-I915-v1.1-20041217.i386.rpm
[01:58] <Ropechoborra>         Note:  The console prompt will reappear in a few moments
[01:58] <nhaines> Gambit-, I hope it helped.  :)
[01:58] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/i915Driver
[01:58] <chuckyp> there follo that
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> There is no file called that way ! =(
[01:58] <Gambit-> It'd be nice if there was the option to spit out a dependency tree for the upgrades, instead of just a list...
[01:58] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, follow the link in the wiki
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[01:59] <Whatsisname> Gambit-, what good would that do
[01:59] <nhaines> It would be nice to read.
[01:59] <nhaines> Hi, Matt.
[01:59] <g0dchild> hi, i am unable to play songs on amarok :(
[01:59] <chuckyp> Gambit-, man apt
[01:59] <nhaines> Gambit-, for that, there's always browsing in Synaptic after the fact.  :)
[01:59] <Gambit-> heh true
[01:59] <chuckyp> !tell g0dchild about restricted
[01:59] <Gambit-> I don't have X on this box though...
[01:59] <g0dchild> i can see the tracks selected- they just go by without any sound.
[01:59] <nhaines> Actually, apt-cache does the same, I think.
[02:00] <Whatsisname> how would you display that, becuase everything doesnt only have a single dependency
[02:00] <Whatsisname> you'd have to have some sort of weird 3d tree thing
[02:00] <chuckyp> I could just see the nightmare of lines criss crossing everywhere.
[02:01] <chuckyp> !915
[02:01] <ubotu> chuckyp: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:02] <zipper> Where can i get a video that shows the wobbly effect of xgl?
[02:03] <g0dchild> chuckyp-smoking, are you sure its something to do with restricted formats?
[02:03] <g0dchild> i have already installed gstreamer universe
[02:03] <Ropechoborra> It says run "915resolution -l" as root <-- How do i do that?
[02:03] <Whatsisname> use the sudo command
[02:03] <fules67> hi
[02:03] <nhaines> !tell zipper about xgl
[02:04] <Ropechoborra> sudo 915resolution -l ??
[02:04] <Whatsisname> yeah
[02:04] <Ropechoborra> Oka
[02:04] <Ropechoborra> sudo: 915resolution: command not found
[02:04] <zipper> nhaines, the videos there doesnt show the wobbly effects
[02:04] <Whatsisname> try sudo ./915resolution
[02:05] <Whatsisname> -l
[02:05] <nhaines> zipper, I could have sworn it did.  My apology, then.
[02:05] <Ropechoborra> ok
[02:05] <zipper> only transparency, cube and window management
[02:05] <zipper> no problem
[02:05] <gargas> hi when i go to my computer i see only the floppy the cdrom and the file system how can i see my secondary hdd?
[02:05] <tarzeau> anyone for some http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ? there's a new metaserver
[02:06] <chuckyp> gargas, what type of partition is on your secondary hdd?
[02:06] <elkbuntu> g0dchild, can you tell me what soundsystem and output plugin your amarok is using? settings -> configure amarok -> engine
[02:06] <gargas> my primary is formated by ibuku
[02:06] <gargas> the secondary is nfts
[02:06] <chuckyp> !tell gargas about ntfs
[02:06] <gargas> i cant see none of them
[02:06] <chuckyp> gargas, read the link ubotu sent you
[02:07] <g0dchild> elkbuntu, i've tried gstreamer, xine and arts- and tried varying the system sound settings too-
[02:07] <chuckyp> g0dchild, what type of file are you trying to play?
[02:07] <g0dchild> mp3 :S
[02:07] <elkbuntu> set soundsystem to 'xine-engine' and output plugin to 'alsa'
[02:07] <chuckyp> g0dchild, does sound work on the system for other sounds. ?  i.e. login etc...?
[02:08] <g0dchild> chuckyp, it does.
[02:08] <elkbuntu> err, correction soundsystem to 'xine Engine'
[02:08] <chuckyp> g0dchild, well try another audio player just to make sure but it is probably somehting wth your codec.  You need to isntall the restricted codecs stuff.
[02:10] <g0dchild> chuckyp, - thanks. am doing that right now.
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> The readme says Installing
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> ----------
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> $ make
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> $ su
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> # make install what should i do there?
[02:13] <theD3viL> anyone know which is depends of gsetroot ?
[02:13] <simon__> Im sitting her and try to follow the Ubuntu FAQ guide for how to installe Java.. Anyone who could answer a question?
[02:13] <onkarshinde> ANybody using any bluetooth related things on dapper? How does it compare with Breezy?
[02:13] <fredrik> I can't decide wich scripting lang I should learn, python or perl
[02:13] <chuckyp> onkarshinde, dapper discusions are at #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <onkarshinde> Ropechoborra: instead of make install do 'sudo make install'
[02:13] <Ropechoborra> Oka =)
[02:14] <onkarshinde> chuckyp: No oen is there
[02:14] <chuckyp> onkarshinde, i'm in there with 118 other people
[02:14] <onkarshinde> oops
[02:14] <onkarshinde> I guess I previously typed wrong name
[02:14] <shiv> I was installing captive-static. Now I get this message: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:14] <shiv> How do I get rid of this
[02:14] <simon__> How do I change something requires superuser privilege in terminal?
[02:14] <Ropechoborra> cp 915resolution /usr/sbin
[02:14] <Ropechoborra>  <--- That appeas when i but sudo make install
[02:15] <elkbuntu> shiv, open terminal and run the command it says
[02:15] <Ropechoborra> *put
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: checkinstall is better (IMO)
[02:15] <sophtpaw> i have a breezy install and i installed Dapper (kubuntu) on (apparently, but not sure) another partition. Now Breezy is acting up weird. "dpkg -l |grep wine "even gives error
[02:15] <sophtpaw> Help
[02:15] <Ropechoborra> gnomefreak,  O_o what?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Ropechoborra about checkinstall
[02:16] <Ropechoborra> Thankx xD
[02:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:16] <SWAT> sophtpaw, can you 'see' the dapper install on one of your mounted HD's?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: might not fix your error but i recommend it over make install
[02:16] <rambo3> tell /me paster
[02:16] <rambo3> !paster
[02:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[02:17] <rambo3> !paste
[02:17] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:17] <sophtpaw> SWAT: ) how do i check that?
[02:17] <SWAT> sophtpaw, mount your partitions and look if you see a 'root folder' like structure (like /dev /etc /usr /sbin etc.)
[02:18] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, also I wouldn't try to install an rpm.
[02:18] <sophtpaw> SWAT, yes what do you mean mount - how please?
[02:18] <shiv> elkbuntu: I already did that it keeps giving me this error and I cannot find these files anywhere.
[02:18] <shiv> Still needed essential module: ntoskrnl.exe
[02:18] <shiv> Still needed essential module: ntfs.sys
[02:19] <chuckyp> shiv, what are you trying to do?
[02:19] <b1010> lol?
[02:19] <SWAT> sophtpaw, "cat /proc/partitions" should let you view all the partitions.
[02:19] <Ropechoborra> sudo apt-get install checkinstall <-- paq. dont found
[02:19] <shiv> chuckyp, install captive-static, ntfs write support. But now it seems its too buggy so want to go back where I was.
[02:19] <SWAT> sophtpaw, then just mount them in your /mnt  and then go through them..... Example "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1"
[02:19] <nhaines> shiv is trying to use captiventfs.
[02:20] <gargas> hi gus i have 5.1 speakers but only 3 work how to enable all?
[02:20] <SWAT> sophtpaw, "sudo mount"..... offcourse
[02:20] <chuckyp> shiv, then uninstall captive-static
[02:20] <sophtpaw> SWAT, ok did the first bit, now how do i mount?
[02:20] <SWAT> gargas, you did something wrong
[02:20] <gargas> what
[02:20] <SWAT> sophtpaw, read my second bit
[02:20] <chuckyp> !tell sophtpaw about ntfs
[02:20] <gargas> tell me
[02:20] <chmod775> is there any good audio cd player for gnome
[02:20] <chmod775> ?
[02:21] <SWAT> gargas, hell if I know. Give more information. What speakerset, soundcard etc. ?
[02:21] <Frogzoo> chmod775: xmms? but amarok is much better
[02:21] <chuckyp> chmod775, put a cd in and play it.
[02:21] <gargas> aidigy 2 value
[02:21] <chmod775> ok
[02:21] <chuckyp> rythmbox
[02:21] <gargas> 5.1 creative speakers
[02:21] <chmod775> Which is good ?
[02:21] <SWAT> gargas, audigy 2 works fine here. No problem whatsoever
[02:21] <chmod775> Amarok
[02:21] <chmod775> ?
[02:21] <jimcooncat> is mondorescue broken? need guidance please
[02:21] <chuckyp> chmod775, try them and see which one you like
[02:21] <shiv> chuckyp, this is what I get though
[02:21] <shiv> shiv@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get remove captive-static
[02:21] <shiv> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:21] <chmod775> okie
[02:21] <gargas> i have no problem with rhe sound
[02:22] <gargas> but only the front speakers play
[02:22] <elkbuntu> shiv which ubuntu version are you using?
[02:23] <SWAT> gargas, did you put a DVD in the tray with 5.1 sound, configured your dvd-software to use 5.1?
[02:23] <richardv> !xgl
[02:23] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:24] <sophtpaw>  sudo mount
[02:24] <sophtpaw> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:24] <shiv> elkbuntu, its breezy 5.10
[02:24] <chmod775> ls
[02:24] <SWAT> sophtpaw, wtf?
[02:24] <chmod775> hey I have been using ubuntu since oct 2004 and I am madly in love with it
[02:24] <chmod775> It's rocks
[02:24] <chmod775> it sure rocks
[02:25] <chmod775> SOrry I mean 2005
[02:25] <sophtpaw> SWAT: one of the transcrips. Can i sent the rest to you?
[02:25] <sophtpaw> i'm lost now
[02:25] <SWAT> sophtpaw, use pastebin
[02:25] <onkarshinde> Anyone can tell me exact way to move my existing /home directory to different partition.
[02:26] <chuckyp> onkarshinde, mount the partitoin to /home
[02:26] <sophtpaw> i can't open a browser at all now!
[02:26] <chuckyp> onkarshinde, no wait
[02:26] <SWAT> sophtpaw, why the hell not?
[02:26] <sophtpaw> no response!
[02:26] <sophtpaw> this is getting scary
[02:27] <chuckyp> onkarshinde, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[02:27] <elkbuntu> sophtpaw, what browser are you trying to open?
[02:27] <chuckyp> there
[02:27] <sophtpaw> firefox
[02:27] <SWAT> sophtpaw, what does 'uname -r' give you?
[02:27] <Ropechoborra> I cant get installed the package :( dont know what to do
[02:27] <sophtpaw> i just clicked on ubotu's link to pastebin, and that wouldn't open either
[02:28] <elkbuntu> sophtpaw, you could try installing epiphany as an alternative
[02:28] <SWAT> sophtpaw, manually open firefox and TYPE the URL
[02:28] <nhaines> Try right-clicking it, sophtpaw.
[02:28] <petterah> hello :) anyone here run ubuntu on corporate servers ?
[02:28] <sophtpaw> SWAT: uname -r give 2.6.12-10-386
[02:29] <chuckyp> !tell petterah about anyone
[02:29] <ompaul> sophtpaw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[02:29] <sophtpaw> SWAT, manually open firefoex? The whole top bar, Applications/ Places/ System does not respond
[02:29] <elkbuntu> sophtpaw, so gnome isnt working?
[02:29] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, open a terminal or ctrl+altF2 and type in killall gnome-panel
[02:30] <SWAT> sophtpaw, told you that your system was b0rked
[02:30] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, should restart you panel
[02:30] <ompaul> sophtpaw, what tool did you use to "help" you?
[02:30] <elkbuntu> ctrl+alt+backspace should kill gnome. if it doesnt restart automatically, type 'startx' at the console prompt
[02:30] <chuckyp> ompaul, tool lol
[02:31] <SWAT> I bet you it was Automatix or something ;)
[02:32] <mrpink> Ropechoborra: have you tried to google for your problem
[02:32] <mrpink> Ropechoborra: i had the same too
[02:32] <simon__> How do you get Superuser Privilege???
[02:32] <elkbuntu> !sudo
[02:32] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:32] <takedown> sudo
[02:33] <mrpink> Ropechoborra: on what kind of machine you want to install ubuntu
[02:33] <Ropechoborra> No... not ubuntu
[02:33] <Ropechoborra> Just the drivers for my video card
[02:33] <kbrooks> i *think* think that there is a bug in xchat 2..4.4 on ubuntu breezy
[02:33] <sophtpaw> wow, totally froze up , and had to reboot
[02:34] <elkbuntu> couldnt even do startx?
[02:34] <Ropechoborra> mrpink, i have to install the official intel drivers but my problem is that i dont know how (im new in linux)
[02:34] <sophtpaw> what is the url for pastebin again?
[02:34] <mrpink> ok
[02:34] <mrpink> rope
[02:34] <mrpink> Ropechoborra: there is an howto in google for installing them
[02:34] <mrpink> Ropechoborra: iam right back
[02:35] <elkbuntu> ubotu tell sophtpaw about pastebin
[02:36] <Ropechoborra> mrpink, query for a moment plz
[02:36] <shiv> what is the command to execute captive-install-acquire
[02:36] <sophtpaw> thx, elkbuntu
[02:36] <sophtpaw> SWAT: please remind me of the command to get my filesystem up?
[02:37] <sophtpaw> had to reboot
[02:37] <nhaines> !tell sophtpaw about ntfs
[02:38] <Chetic> Can Gnome start executable binaries if you double-click them?
[02:38] <shiv> what is the command to execute captive-install-acquire?
[02:39] <nhaines> Chetic, yes, it can.
[02:39] <Chetic> Does it by default?
[02:40] <nhaines> Chetic, as far as I know, it does.
[02:41] <k0p> hi all
[02:41] <bDerrly> greetings
[02:41] <Chetic> Cool. Thanks nhaines
[02:42] <sophtpaw> SWAT: did you get that?
[02:43] <chmod775> what is drapper flight
[02:44] <chmod775> ?
[02:44] <chmod775> is it a new distro
[02:44] <chmod775> I have heard of drapper drake
[02:44] <chmod775> ?
[02:44] <chmod775> not flight
[02:44] <chmod775> ?
[02:45] <rambo3> testing version of dapper
[02:45] <nhaines> "flight" is the name given to the test releases of Dapper Drake.
[02:45] <nhaines> The last versions used "colony" but that doesn't fit with drakes.  :)
[02:46] <rambo3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10051  any ideas why this is happening .
[02:49] <gnomefreak> nhaines: colony was used as alpha for breezy as flight is used for the ducky :)
[02:49] <nhaines> gnomefreak, that what I said.  :)
[02:50] <nhaines> Well, there's some fuss about whether drake means a duck or a dragon.  I decided not to put forth an opinion.  ;)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> nhaines: drake = duck (the way they mena it)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> atleast thats everywhere
[02:51] <nhaines> I'm pretty sure they mean the duck too.  :)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> dragons are probly more fun, but a duck would be lower maintenance
[02:51] <gnomefreak> as long as it works i can care less what its called :)
[02:51] <nhaines> hehe  :)
[02:52] <recon00> I'm looking for a window manager (like fluxbox). Can anybody recommend one to me?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> fluxbox is the most like fluxbox
[02:52] <gnomefreak> recon00: openbox blackbox
[02:52] <gnomefreak> or
[02:53] <gnomefreak> enlightenment is another good one
[02:53] <recon00> gnomefreak: I'll try both. And I didn't mean literally "like fluxbox".
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:54] <C-O-L-T> I have just got my second ubuntu shipit cd! UBUNTU ROCKS!!!
[02:54] <nhaines> Congrats, C-O-L-T :)
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> nhaines: thansk
[02:55] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: next time, order 20 & hand them around ;)
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: I have been doing it for a while :)
[02:56] <i486SL> anyone can help with installation problem maybe=
[02:56] <shiv> I am stuck half way installing a package. Now I want to abort it. How do I do that?
[02:56] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[02:56] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:56] <i486SL> my installation hangs, with the message "linux - no synced "
[02:56] <i486SL> or so..and then kernel panic
[02:56] <i486SL> its kubuntu
[02:56] <chuckyp> i486SL, what type of hardware?
[02:57] <karachi> how to remove a link from anyfile
[02:57] <karachi> What is command to remove link from any file. Please !!
[02:57] <chuckyp> karachi, chill for a sec jesus it takes more than a second for someone to respond
[02:57] <karachi> :)
[02:57] <karachi> right
[02:58] <alapzaj> i have instaled fglrx, but when i type modprobe fglrx FATAL ERROR no such devince (i have radeon mobility 9000)! pls help
[02:58] <i486SL> chuck: old system from 1999, VIA apollo pro + chipset, pentium 3 500 mhz katmai
[02:58] <nhaines> You don't modprobe fglrx.  You modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to reference it.
[02:59] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: have you checked fglrx supports 9000?
[02:59] <chuckyp> karachi, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=415701
[02:59] <i486SL> chuck: btw, i cannot install ANY linux distro
[03:00] <i486SL> i always get stucked in the installation process
[03:01] <alapzaj> yes, fglrx support mobility 9000
[03:01] <travis_> hi, just isnstalled linux(ubuntu) and it seems to be great!!! my freind put it on my system and has been showing me around the OS. but i have to get my computer back to my apartment.. i just wanted to say hi to the community. so hi, how you all doing?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> i486SL: 1st thing to try, disabling acpi - boot the install with 'linux acpi=off'
[03:01] <alapzaj> nhaines: but xorg doesn't works
[03:01] <i486SL> frog: according to teh instructions i typed linux pci=noacpi
[03:01] <i486SL> i will try your info
[03:02] <magi> giorno
[03:02] <nhaines> alapzaj, has it xorg ever worked before?
[03:02] <nhaines> travis_, I'm really glad you're enjoying Ubuntu so far.  :)
[03:02] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: modprobe should work - run modprobe & check /var/log/messages
[03:03] <alapzaj> nhaines: yes
[03:03] <i486SL> frogzoo: any more possibilities?
[03:03] <i486SL> exceopt to throw away the VIA chipset
[03:03] <i486SL> ;)
[03:04] <xaero_> i need some help with mp3 playback
[03:04] <xaero_> i can't get python_pymad to install
[03:05] <alapzaj> i don't understand this, message log said fglrx works:D
[03:05] <xaero_> anyone who can help?
[03:05] <alapzaj> but i have radeon 7500 mobility:D:D:D
[03:05] <xaero_> anyone who can help out?
[03:05] <alapzaj> this isn't real
[03:06] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: so which is it - 9000 or 7500?
[03:06] <alapzaj> 9000 real , but kernel said this is 7500
[03:06] <nhaines> I don't have a mobility card but I do have a 7200, which works.  You might want to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI as a starting point?
[03:06] <whyami> how can I silence the built-in system bell that beeps whenever I boot the computer, wake it from hibernation, or put it to sleep?
[03:07] <QbY> anyone know of a good util that will recover data from a screwed up xp partition?
[03:07] <SilentJ> Howdy
[03:07] <QbY> whyami. unplug it.
[03:07] <SilentJ> Anyone help me with a Ubuntu Install? Would appriciate it
[03:07] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: so what's the problem? modprobe works, but x doesn't start?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[03:07] <xaero_> can someone help please? i can't get mp3 to work under ubuntu.. i tried installing the packages but i can't satisfy the dependencies
[03:07] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:07] <alapzaj> nhaines: i read, and do this
[03:07] <whyami> QbY: this is a laptop. All sounds are set to be silenced.
[03:07] <alapzaj> frogzoo yes
[03:07] <alapzaj> but i said modprobe doesn't workd
[03:07] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:07] <renato> hello
[03:08] <alapzaj> works
[03:08] <alapzaj> ok i try this
[03:08] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: but modprobe worked? it reported 7500?
[03:08] <renato> is there a package for system maintenance?? like defrag and checking the system for optimal performance?
[03:08] <xaero_> ubotu, can you help me please? i need some help with the installation of certain packages
[03:08] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, xaero_
[03:08] <whyami> anybody have a broadcom wireless chipset working with ndiswrapper and WEP?
[03:08] <chuckyp> whyami, yeah I have one on my knoppmyth box
[03:08] <nhaines> renato, Linux filesystems don't need defragmented.
[03:08] <Frogzoo> renato: defrag isn't needed for ext3
[03:08] <nhaines> whyami, I do.
[03:08] <xaero_> Frogzoo, can you help please?
[03:09] <chuckyp> whyami, oh no wep though but htat shouldn't matter.
[03:09] <rambo3> !paste
[03:09] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[03:09] <Frogzoo> xaero_: the way it works is, if peeps can answer your question, they will
[03:09] <nhaines> alapzaj, better run 'sudo lspci' and tell us what model it says your ATI card is.
[03:09] <chuckyp> !tell xaero_ about install
[03:09] <xaero_> k
[03:09] <renato> Frogzoo, yes i know but what about other types of mainteinance?
[03:09] <i486SL> who installed this distro successfully on a VIA chipset computer?
[03:09] <whyami> chuckyp, nhaines: I have tried everything. The wireless works great on my unencrypted network at home. But if I add encryption, it can't even find the access point.
[03:09] <chuckyp> i486SL, lots of people
[03:10] <Viper5703> Hey is there networknig support in Dapper?
[03:10] <chuckyp> i486SL, what type of hardware are you using mainly what type of cpu etc..
[03:10] <chuckyp> Viper5703, dapper talk is in #ubuntu+1
[03:10] <Viper5703> oh ok. Sorry
[03:10] <whyami> i486SL: I have a VIA chipset with dapper which works great.
[03:11] <nhaines> whyami, can you show us your /etc/networks/interface file with pastebin?
[03:11] <xaero_> btw thanks chuckyp
[03:11] <Frogzoo> renato: hate to disappoint, but ubuntu doesn't need much maintenance - maybe install & run regularly 'smartmontools' for starters
[03:12] <alapzaj> lspci says RADEON MOBILITY M7 LW (Radeon 7500)
[03:12] <whyami> nhaines: sure. Can you remind me the url for pastebin?
[03:12] <renato> Frogzoo, ok... thanks
[03:12] <SilentJ> Cant install Ubundu from the Install disk or the LIVE CD. I have 2 partitions one Windoze XP sp2 the other Xandros Linux... I tried to install Ubuntu, (wanted to replace Xandros)  it goes threw the text and stuff then it stops and I get this crazy multi-colored screen. it's completely garbled no text no pictures nothing.. just a bright  crazy colors. . My computer is ... Dell 9300 1GB Ram, 100GB HD Centrino...  I tried "boot: linux vga=771 nopic
[03:12] <Frogzoo> whyami: maybe try your luck with wifi-radar
[03:13] <nhaines> !paste
[03:13] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[03:13] <SilentJ> me?
[03:13] <whyami> Frogzoo: tried that. It hangs...
[03:13] <dylan__> nhaines, where does all this text go?  in the server somewhere?
[03:13] <Frogzoo> alapzaj: don't believe everything lspci tells you ...
[03:13] <SilentJ> Ubotu you speaking to me?
[03:13] <ubotu> SilentJ: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:13] <yezariael> hey, how can i change the order of the daemons run at boot-time?
[03:13] <dylan__> SilentJ, sounds like your MBR is busted, buddy
[03:13] <SilentJ> MBR?
[03:13] <nhaines> dylan__, yup, and then you paste the URL into this channel.
[03:14] <SilentJ> What do you mean?
[03:14] <Ox0000> I have 10 Floppy Drivers in my GNOME-VFS filechoosers dialog... how can I remove them (I don't have a floppy)
[03:14] <Frogzoo> SilentJ: ubotu's a bot
[03:14] <SilentJ> oh haha
[03:14] <chuckyp> Frogzoo, lol
[03:14] <SilentJ> figures
[03:14] <distrojunkie> MBR = Master Boot Record
[03:14] <SilentJ> ahh
[03:14] <SilentJ> possiably
[03:14] <duckblur> I need help with fonts. No matter what I do I can't seem to get msttcorefonts looking good in Breezy.
[03:14] <i486SL> chuckyp: P3 500 mhz, Katmai..my pc is full packed with pci cards and 1 isa NIC card, all pci slots and isa slots are occupied
[03:14] <SilentJ> Any idea how to fix it?
[03:15] <chuckyp> i486SL, check the media possibly or try to burn the distro at a slower speed like 8x or lower.
[03:15] <bigbill50> good morning all, i would like to know if anyone has been able to get a westell PCCARD to work with  ubuntu
[03:15] <i486SL> cd rom, cd burner..zip drive on the parallelport
[03:15] <chuckyp> i486SL, other than that it should work find.
[03:15] <i486SL> dont know why linux doesnt want to install
[03:15] <LinuxJones> duckblur, you have an lcd screen ?
[03:15] <duckblur> No
[03:15] <duckblur> CRT
[03:15] <Frogzoo> i486SL: might not be a bad idea to remove all your cards & see if install will run, then install cards one by one
[03:15] <chuckyp> !tell bigbill50 about anyone
[03:15] <SilentJ> < LCD screen laptop
[03:15] <whyami> nhaines: okay. The interfaces file is there: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10055
[03:16] <gazanfer> hi all
[03:16] <duckblur> The fonts look mirrored or whatever you may call it
[03:16] <LinuxJones> duckblur, in the fonts dialog box, have you played with all the different settings ?
[03:16] <xaero_> what is the password to the 'sudo' command?
[03:16] <chmod775> 
[03:16] <chmod775> 
[03:16] <xaero_> it doesnt take in the user's password
[03:16] <i486SL> chuckyp: yes i tried that one..burned the ISO with 8x speed..since the second master drive is an old mitsumi 2x burner (8x reading)
[03:16] <dsas> xaero_: is the user in the right group?
[03:16] <duckblur> Well, the only app I use that uses msttcorefonts is opera, and opera doesnt use gnome's settings, it goes directly by what fontconfig has.
[03:16] <xaero_> which group should it be in dsas ?
[03:16] <chuckyp> i486SL, well then possibly remove some of the cards and go from there.
[03:16] <SilentJ> what do you think is jackin me up?
[03:16] <gazanfer> is this the right channel to ask newbie questions?
[03:16] <i486SL> generally it doesnt like 24x burned cds..so i tried 8x..but is this the reason?
[03:17] <chuckyp> i486SL, but ti should work.
[03:17] <chuckyp> gazanfer, yes ask
[03:17] <gnomefreak> gazanfer: yes
[03:17] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, jesus
[03:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:17] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, the best one this morning was how do I search on the forums.
[03:17] <distrojunkie> silentj: if your MBR is corrupt, boot with live cd rescue and reinstall grub
[03:17] <LinuxJones> duckblur, I havn't tried Opera in about 5 years
[03:17] <i486SL> chuckyp..oh yeah..i heardthat one..but i really dont want to go that way...finally i will need all those cardslater..even if teh install works..
[03:17] <SilentJ> Tried booting with the live CD get the same crap
[03:17] <i486SL> no other way to get it installed?
[03:17] <gazanfer> i just installed ubuntu, but i also need to access my winxp partition. but somehow grub doesnt have that option by default. i tried to setup grub, but its too complicated for me.
[03:17] <chuckyp> i486SL, yeah theres an option try to boot a live cd.
[03:17] <gnomefreak> lmao i still like the how can i upgrade from flight4 -flight5
[03:17] <duckblur> LinuxJones: Well, the same is true with Firefox as far as I've noticed too
[03:17] <nhaines> whyami, okay, that looks pretty standard.
[03:18] <gyoya> wow
[03:18] <xaero_> which group should the user be in to run the 'sudo' command? it asks for a pssword and doesn't take in the user's password.. any ideas?
[03:18] <distrojunkie> i doubt its the mbr then
[03:18] <chuckyp> !tell gazanfer about ntfs
[03:18] <whyami> nhaines: it doesn't even find the access point, which I think it weird...
[03:18] <Frogzoo> i486SL: oh, the cd burning is a good point - your (old) cd reader may require MODE 1
[03:18] <gnomefreak> gazanfer: did you install ubuntu after installing windows?
[03:18] <dsas> xaero_: it should be in the admin group IIRC
[03:18] <nhaines> whyami, but it does see it if you disable WEP?
[03:18] <SilentJ> Think it has something to do with my other Linux Partitions?
[03:18] <xaero_> IIRC is the admin group dsas ?
[03:18] <LinuxJones> duckblur, I like the Bitstream fonts that are installed by default. They look the best on my system :)
[03:18] <gazanfer> yes. winxp was already installed and working
[03:18] <dsas> xaero_: no it should be in the 'admin' group
[03:19] <chuckyp> gazanfer, so you can boot to winxp or not?
[03:19] <xaero_> ok thanks dsas
[03:19] <gnomefreak> gazanfer: and now grub doesnt give you windows as a boot option?
[03:19] <gazanfer> i can not
[03:19] <duckblur> LinuxJones : Well I use windows from time to time too, and I get annoyed by changes.
[03:19] <gazanfer> yes it doesnt have that option
[03:19] <distrojunkie> silenj: i don't think so maybe a problem with your x.org config
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !grub
[03:19] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:19] <SilentJ> no idea how to fix it
[03:19] <dsas> xaero_: the easy way to do it is to use the 'users and groups' tool
[03:19] <SilentJ> i would really like to try Ubuntu,,, hear its a kick ass distro
[03:19] <xaero_> dsas,  may i PM you?
[03:20] <distrojunkie> did you get ubuntu installed?
[03:20] <xaero_> if you do not mind
[03:20] <dsas> xaero_: sure
[03:20] <xaero_> thanks
[03:20] <LinuxJones> duckblur, That's understandable
[03:20] <Ropechoborra> How do i save an archive modified in vim ?
[03:20] <Nogimics> hmmm just went to install something and it asked for the Breezy Badger CD, its the first time its ever asked for the CD whent installing is there a lot on the CD which it wont grab from the net instead?
[03:20] <i486SL> frogzoo...whats that? you mean i should burn the cd with less than 8x?
[03:20] <SilentJ> What a bummer I spent 2 days downloading this damn thing
[03:20] <i486SL> but it can read the cd here or not?
[03:21] <distrojunkie> SilentJ: did the ubuntu install go ok?
[03:21] <i486SL> it starts teh installation..then it hangs..i see nothing about a crc error or something..
[03:21] <Ropechoborra> How do i save an archive modified in vim ?
[03:21] <Frogzoo> i486SL: no, CDs are either mode 2 or mode1 - very old readers can't handle mode 2
[03:21] <bigbill50> i have a wireless westell pc card that i am trying to get to work
[03:21] <SilentJ> naw, it gets half way threw then it goes on an Acid trip
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: edit you sources.list to use the repos instead of the cdrom
[03:21] <duckblur> Anyway. The guys on the forums mentioned that it looks bad because bytecode interpreter is off (as of default in breezy). I don't know how much of that is true. But I'd like the bytecode interpreter.
[03:21] <i486SL> frogzoo: you think this is the reason for the hangup?
[03:21] <chuckyp> gazanfer, here's a sample of my menu.1st and i'm dual booting xp to help you out a little. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10058
[03:21] <SilentJ> my screen wacks out and it freezes
[03:21] <Frogzoo> i486SL: it's worth reburning to test the theory
[03:21] <i486SL> ok
[03:21] <Nogimics> gnomefreak how would I go about that?
[03:21] <nhaines> whyami, I'm sorry, I need to leave.  :/  Try checking the Ubuntu forums if no one else here can help you.
[03:21] <i486SL> i will try that one too
[03:21] <distrojunkie> SilentJ: at what point?
[03:21] <i486SL> noted.
[03:22] <whyami> nhaines: no problem. thanks.
[03:22] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp,  How do i save an archive modified in vim ?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: in /etc/apt/sources.list  the line that starts with cdrom its the very first one put a # infront of it
[03:22] <nhaines> whyami, try that or the wiki.  It was the wiki that got me set up long ago.  :)
[03:22] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, what do you mean a file modified with vim?
[03:22] <CFNinja> I'm registering for the ubuntu forums, anyone want to be the person that referred me?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: than take the # away from lines that start with word deb
[03:22] <gazanfer> thanks for help. now i downloaded diskmounter, run it, and succeeded mounting my winxp partition. do i need to do anything else?
[03:22] <eXtas-Styrkja-> Anywhon know if there is a special cs for Sparc ?
[03:22] <Nogimics> ok will try
[03:22] <SilentJ> umm, press enter to start installation... goes threw all the text then aparently when it is about to boot to the GUI it wacks out
[03:22] <nhaines> CFNinja, be sure and check out the amazing Ubuntu forums.  ;)
[03:23] <i486SL> frogzoo: one more question..to speed up the installation..can i install this system from the HDD?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> gazanfer: the diskmounter isnt gonna help you boot to xp
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp,  yep.. i modified the xorg.conf and i want to save it..
[03:23] <chuckyp> gazanfer, yeah to boot xp you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and append the xp partitoin in there so you can dual boot it.  If thats what you are after.
[03:23] <CFNinja> That good eh?
[03:23] <gazanfer> ok ill try that now
[03:23] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, hit esc they type :   then w  to write then q to quit
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:23] <gnomefreak> make sure windows has chainloader +1 i think it is
[03:23] <distrojunkie> SilentJ: so it install ok, reboots, then screws up before you get the login screen?
[03:23] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, yeah
[03:24] <Frogzoo> i486SL: I don't think ubuntu installs from HDD afaik :(
[03:24] <chuckyp> i486SL, sure you can
[03:24] <nhaines> Take care, everyone.  :)
[03:24] <chuckyp> i486SL, but pita to do.
[03:24] <Viper5703> see ya haines
[03:24] <CFNinja> Anyone experience any caveats with the live cd for a G3 imac? I can't seem to get mine to boot from the cd.
[03:25] <k31th> Afternoon
[03:25] <i486SL> frogzoo: last questions: what do you think about BeOS?
[03:25] <i486SL> alternative to linux?
[03:25] <LinuxJones> CFNinja, don't you only have to press the c button while booting for your mac to boot to the cdrom drive ?
[03:25] <eXtas-Styrkja-> Anywhon know if there is a special cs for Sparc ?
[03:25] <CFNinja> that was my thought
[03:25] <distrojunkie> linuxjones: that is corect
[03:26] <slickeddie> hey everybody I have a question
[03:26] <whyami> !irq
[03:26] <ubotu> whyami: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <Torsson> cd*
[03:26] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp, it says it is in readonly
[03:26] <duckblur> hmm, why can't I download source with "apt-get source *name*"?
[03:26] <CFNinja> I burned the iso from a pc. I wonder if that makes a difference. Shouldn't.
[03:27] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, you need to edit it using sudo
[03:27] <Codenut> I need help with administration
[03:27] <whyami> is there a reference for diagnosing and fixing irq conflicts?
[03:27] <recon00> In enlightenment, when trying to go to the "debian menus->apps->net", so many items come up the menu gets scrolled and then disappears. Any help?
[03:27] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, so you would do sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  that way you can write the file since you need root to do it.
[03:27] <slickeddie> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday (an older version I think) it came with Firefox 1.07 I want to update to the latest Firefox, how do I do it? I have the latest version downloaded, i just can't figure out where to extract it to.
[03:28] <recon00> In enlightenment, when trying to go to the "debian menus->apps->net", so many items come up the menu gets scrolled and then disappears. Any help?
[03:28] <chuckyp> !tell Codenut about ask
[03:28] <LinuxJones> CFNinja, does the livedcd actually start or you just can't boot to cdrom drive ?
[03:28] <chuckyp> !tell slickeddie about ff1.5
[03:28] <Frogzoo> i486SL: I'll fess up - never tried it *shrug*
[03:28] <i486SL> ok ;)
[03:28] <slickeddie> thanks chucky i'll give it a try
[03:28] <LinuxJones> whyami, you're running an old 16 bit device ?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> recon00: logout and log back in see if that helps
[03:29] <distrojunkie> slickeddie: just extract it to your home folder, then run firefox from that folder
[03:29] <CFNinja> So far I can't boot to the cd when OS 8 (yes, original imac release collecting dust on my desk) it wants to initialize the CD.
[03:29] <CFNinja> Hmmm.
[03:29] <Ropechoborra> chuckyp, can i talk to you in query ?
[03:29] <chuckyp> recon00, also ask in #debian maybe
[03:29] <chuckyp> Ropechoborra, yeah
[03:30] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: i would have sent him to #enlightenment first but im sure they will send him there ;)
[03:30] <whyami> LinuxJones: no I'm running a fairly modern Laptop. I'm trying to figure out why ndiswrapper sometimes hangs the entire machine.
[03:30] <Codenut> I need to remove access to things for my young son, such as browsing and administration when he logs on using his username. I just want hiim to have chat and openoffice here in the Garage.
[03:31] <LinuxJones> CFNinja, maybe you burned the livecd.iso as a file rather than an actual image file.
[03:31] <LinuxJones> whyami, what kind of machine do you have ?
[03:31] <vader> heh I did that for the first time in ages the other day LinuxJones
[03:31] <sorush20> whyami: are you trying to start and restart ndiswrapper like this sudo /etc/init.d/ndiswrapper stop
[03:31] <whyami> LinuxJones: Dell Latitude D600
[03:31] <LinuxJones> vader, everyone has done it at least once :)
[03:32] <LinuxJones> whyami, let me have a look around
[03:32] <whyami> sorush20: no, just ifup wlan0 and ifdown wlan0
[03:32] <CFNinja> LinuxJones: that's a good thought but the tool I use for burning is specific for writing isos. I'm going to reburn anyway.
[03:32] <sorush20> whyami: do you get any errors?
[03:32] <CFNinja> digg had something the other day about the new release is "almost" out. Is 5.10 what they were referring to?
[03:32] <recon00> Gnomefreak: Nope, didn't help. I think that the problem is that the menu is too big to fit on the screen.
[03:33] <vader> I am currently using Dapper, only problem I have found thus far is I cannot get the broadcom wireless working for some dumb reason, but I will one of these days lol
[03:33] <whyami> sorush20: none that I have found. I'm not sure I have checked the system logs.
[03:33] <Frogzoo> Codenut: just remove the user from group admin
[03:33] <LinuxJones> whyami, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell?highlight=%28laptop%29
[03:33] <slickeddie> what is the default root password? The installer didn't let me choose one
[03:33] <sorush20> vader: there is development being done on making a driver for it look on google..
[03:33] <gnomefreak> recon00: open menu at top of screen hold mouse over opened menu it should stay there
[03:34] <Frogzoo> CFNinja: breezy is 5.10 - the new release will be dapper
[03:34] <sorush20> whyami: are you sure you have set the interfaces file right?
[03:34] <CFNinja> thx
[03:34] <LinuxJones> whyami, looks like an easy fix for you there
[03:34] <sorush20> whyami: paste it as a link so that we can take a look
[03:34] <recon00> gnomefreak: nope. the new net menu actually scrolls the rest of the menu off the screen so I can't pick it.
[03:34] <distrojunkie> slickeddie: root is disabled, use sudo for admin tasks
[03:34] <whyami> LinuxJones: the D600 listed there has a different wireless card.
[03:35] <chuckyp> !tell slickeddie about sudo
[03:35] <vader> I have.....like I said one of these days
[03:35] <vader> no worries sorush20
[03:35] <sorush20> slickeddie: there is no root you just type sudo and your password..
[03:35] <LinuxJones> whyami, yeah but it's the same problem
[03:35] <shane__> !sources
[03:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:35] <recon00> slickeddie: if you want to enable it, try sudo passwd root. that will enable the root account.
[03:35] <LinuxJones> whyami, more than likely it will fix your problem
[03:36] <gnomefreak> recon00: in terminal type update-menus that hopfully will fix it
[03:36] <sorush20> LinuxJones: what did you recommend to whyami
[03:36] <whyami> LinuxJones: are you talking about disabling the parallel port? Yeah I did that already...
[03:37] <ropechoborra> How can i chat in text mode?
[03:37] <whyami> !paste
[03:37] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[03:37] <recon00> gnomefreak: 1. it didn't work. 2. if you can tell me how to edit the contents of the menu then I think I can fix it
[03:37] <chuckyp> ropechoborra, what do you mean chat?
[03:37] <sorush20> ropechoborra: what do you mean explain
[03:37] <chuckyp> sorush20, lol
[03:37] <ropechoborra> chuckyp, enter the IRC in text mode
[03:37] <jonolson> ropechoborra, ...In the terminal?
[03:37] <chuckyp> ropechoborra, irssi is one client.  bitchx is another
[03:37] <chuckyp> ropechoborra, I think irssi is installed by default.
[03:37] <ropechoborra> Yep
[03:38] <gnomefreak> recon00: on that menu im not sure try #enlightenment they maybe can help more
[03:38] <LinuxJones> sorush20, there's a fix on the wiki for passing noacpi in grub or disabling the paralell port in his laptop's biox
[03:38] <Frogzoo> ropechoborra: irssi
[03:38] <ropechoborra> What should i do then?
[03:38] <chuckyp> ropechoborra, if not you just sudo apt-get  one of them that you want.
[03:38] <chuckyp> ropechoborra, type in irssi in a terminal
[03:38] <whyami> sorush20: here's my interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10055
[03:38] <sorush20> LinuxJones: thanks..
[03:38] <chuckyp> !irssi
[03:38] <ubotu> irssi is probably http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[03:38] <Frogzoo> ropechoborra: then '/connect irc.freenode.org'
[03:38] <ropechoborra> Ok
[03:38] <chuckyp> Frogzoo, isn't it freenode.net
[03:39] <Frogzoo> chuckyp: maybe it is, but irc.freenode.org works for me :D
[03:39] <chuckyp> Frogzoo, yeah either works.
[03:39] <sorush20> whyami: have you done a auto wlan0?
[03:39] <karachi> Asterisk Installation met problem ? Can anyone help me ?
[03:39] <threeseas> hello
[03:40] <Frogzoo> karachi: you'd probly do better in an asterisk specific channel I'm guessing
[03:40] <whyami> sorush20: I've done ifup wlan0. It works *most* of the time, then occassionally the whole machine including the mouse becomes unresponsive.
[03:40] <bigfoot1> if i convert our company from windows to ubuntu, will this provide us with the ability to see what website the employees are visiting?
[03:40] <freebse> Hi, kde has just crashed to gdm and now I can not start it anymore (reboboted etc. allready)... it says dcopserver isn't running, if I try to start dcopserver manually I get an error
[03:41] <freebse> also Gnome is hanging when starting it
[03:41] <sorush20> whyami: add the line auto wlan0 to you interfaces file... before the iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[03:41] <threeseas> I have a hard drive with ubuntu 5.10 installed with LVM and some time ago something got screwed, and now I can only log into a shell and have very little ability to run programs
[03:41] <karachi> yes but there it is hard to find anyone having experirence with Ubuntu & Asterisk
[03:41] <SilentJ> Anyone help me with the Ubuntu install having alot of problems
[03:41] <threeseas> There is some way to fix it but I don't know
[03:41] <freebse> bigfoot1: off course, install any proxy server and log it
[03:41] <whyami> sorush20: okay, I'll try it.
[03:41] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: no - the usual way to monitor traffic is proxy logs
[03:42] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, you can just check the proxy server logs for that
[03:42] <bigfoot1> and if i set up this "proxy logs" thing, there's no way for an employee to try to hack his way out of it?
[03:42] <xgltest> hey anyone got xgl to run on dapper
[03:43] <nico8481> hi
[03:43] <xgltest> i get this error about a security file and then something about failing opcodes
[03:43] <sorush20> whyami: after you have done that just do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:43] <bigfoot1> and is there a way i could stop the employees from installing programs without our permission?
[03:43] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, if you have someone in your company doing naughty things on your network, fire him/her.
[03:43] <sorush20> nico8481: hi
[03:43] <SilentJ> having big problems with laptop install
[03:43] <Healot> like child porn?
[03:44] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones: yes, but first we need to cach them
[03:44] <SilentJ> Ummm Child porn.. Yummy
[03:44] <SilentJ> haha
[03:44] <sorush20> Healot: what about it?
[03:44] <bigfoot1> you know human nature... when the boss is away, the employees are at play.
[03:44] <distrojunkie> SilentJ: what is your hardware?
[03:44] <ropechoborra> chuckyp, well... i couldnt solve the resolution problem =(
[03:44] <triablo_> hi! How to check my Ip adress in linux ?
[03:44] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: to totally stop unauthorised installs, you need physical security or some way to stop people booting to single user
[03:44] <SilentJ> Dell Insperation 9300
[03:44] <SilentJ> Lappy
[03:44] <nico8481> when you rip to FLAC/ogg, do you have to specify anything to obtain "gapless" files or are they gapless by default?
[03:45] <sorush20> SilentJ: I hope you didn't mean what you said..
[03:45] <SilentJ> 1gb Ram 100 GB HD
[03:45] <SilentJ> centrino
[03:45] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: ? what do you mean? Can't ubuntu's software handle this?
[03:45] <nico8481> because having ripped a CD to ogg, i feel like totem insert smalls blanks between tracks when playing it...
[03:45] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, normal users can't install programs in Ubuntu. Usually only the person who installs it get's to install programs. The next version (Dapper) will have better features for locking down the Gnome desktop for users like you.
[03:45] <freebse> bigfoot1: for installing programs you need root privileges... so no user can install programs. He/She can install them to home but this is a minor problem
[03:45] <xgltest> triablo_, open terminal and use ifconfig
[03:46] <bigfoot1> freebse: a regular user can still install programs?
[03:46] <chuckyp> !tell freebse about sudo
[03:46] <triablo_> xgltest ,ifconfig doesnt show me my Ip adress
[03:47] <shane__> !w32codecs
[03:47] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:47] <bigfoot1> is there a way to just set up the company computers with all the work applications that are needed and have no other programs installed without my (management)permission?
[03:47] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: it's all doable, just depends how much trouble you want to go to
[03:47] <sorush20> triablo_: try sudo ifup -a
[03:47] <xgltest> triablo_, you interface is not up and or configured then
[03:47] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: this feature is coming with Dapper
[03:47] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: what's doable: installing stuff? or preventing it?
[03:47] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: good!
[03:47] <freebse> bigfoot1: no, he can install stat. linked executable files and run them from there... like sh (any downloaded file)...
[03:47] <CFNinja> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs  2/3 the way explains bootx is needed for the live cd on older macs
[03:47] <brosioz> how can i add
[03:47] <brosioz> user nobody ?
[03:47] <brosioz> on ubuntu ?
[03:48] <distrojunkie> SilentJ: does it have nvidia graphics?
[03:48] <Thug-N-Me> brosioz same as on any other linux distro ....
[03:48] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Dapper is going to be tageted towards corporate environments.
[03:48] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: you can restrict admin access - but as I say, if people have physical access, they can boot single user - there's a couple of ways to stop this though - one is to use encrypted file systems, the other is to run tripwire regularly
[03:48] <sorush20> brosioz: you can use a gui of a terminal.. for terminal just do sudo adduser
[03:48] <onkarshinde> brosioz: I think it is already there
[03:48] <threeseas> how do I reconfigure ubuntu? from the shell
[03:48] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, you can get around that fairly easily though, a number of ways. like I said Gnome 2.16 will have features for locking down the system and preventing users access to things like terminals etc...
[03:48] <brosioz> adduser nobody ?
[03:48] <shane__> so dapper isen't going to be for the typical home user?
[03:48] <xgltest> threeseas, the ip ?
[03:49] <threeseas> the system
[03:49] <Thug-N-Me> threeseas reconfigure what ?
[03:49] <xgltest> threeseas, like apt-get ?
[03:49] <triablo_> xgltest, everything is ok, just I want to know my IP adress because I have internet access throught cable.
[03:49] <Frogzoo> onkarshinde: oh goodie!
[03:49] <xukun> is there somehting wrong with the ubuntu sources.list? I,m getting a lot of failed to fetch errors
[03:49] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: physical access to the pc box?
[03:49] <Frogzoo> triablo_: ifconfig
[03:49] <threeseas> I'm stuck in a sheel that is limited, can't get it to boot into the GUI
[03:49] <LinuxJones> shane__, sure it is but the admin will have a more fine grained control over what other users can do on the system.
[03:49] <xgltest> triablo_, try ifconfig eth0
[03:49] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones: good to hear!
[03:50] <xgltest> triablo_, unless you use wifi or have several network cards
[03:50] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: if they can boot a CD or floppy, they can get root access
[03:50] <shane__> oh ok
[03:50] <Thug-N-Me> threeseas your x server inst set up properly
[03:50] <threeseas> Thug-N-Me: probably
[03:50] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: but isnt't there a way to get the computer to only boot from harddrive? or maybe there's a way to be able to boot from cd or floppy only after you enter the passtword.
[03:50] <sorush20> triablo_:  inet addr: is the server you are connected to and
[03:50] <dade> hello! can someone help me with my laptop?
[03:51] <Thug-N-Me> threeseas it should work by default actually .. what did you change last ?
[03:51] <defrysk> !someone
[03:51] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:51] <defrysk> !helpme
[03:51] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:51] <kevor> Hmm when aptgetting, files i get: 403 forbidden
[03:52] <sorush20> triablo_: here is your ip address.. n=triablo@86.126.200.135
[03:52] <threeseas> Thug-N-Me: some time ago I tried some script that was suppose to set it up to compile AROS source code, that script scred it up
[03:52] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: depends on how l33t your users are - for instance, consider - there's no lock that will keep out an expert locksmith
[03:52] <threeseas> the main line I believe, was dpkg-reconfigure locals
[03:52] <kevor> W: Kan http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-libs/libgnomesupport0_1.4.2-20_i386.deb niet ophalen
[03:52] <dade> my problem is that three hardware components are not working: 1)usb hub 2) ethernet (sis 900) 3) AC97
[03:52] <threeseas> but it says locals is not now loaded
[03:52] <kevor> what's up with this?
[03:52] <penguin42> my mozilla is repeatedly segging on www.iee.org ; is this just my setup or does it happen for everyone? (I suspect the flash plugin - but I dont think it used to happen)
[03:53] <dade> !helpme
[03:53] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:53] <penguin42> dade: You say the usb hub doesnt work - does any USB you have work?
[03:53] <onkarshinde> dade: what problems exactly?
[03:53] <kevor> !helpme forbidden 403
[03:53] <ubotu> kevor: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:53] <sorush20> dede: unless any one here has had the same problem as you day can't help you .. but wait and see..
[03:54] <Frogzoo> penguin42: works fine on ff1.5 for me
[03:54] <defrysk> penguin42, sure you are not spamming a website ?
[03:54] <penguin42> defrysk: ?
[03:54] <dade> penguin: no, whenever i attach a USB peripheral, nothing happens
[03:54] <penguin42> Frogzoo: Do you have flash plugin?
[03:54] <Frogzoo> penguin42: indeed I do
[03:55] <penguin42> Frogzoo: Hmm - mozilla seems to get itself into holes like this from time to time
[03:55] <nico8481> hmm is there some kind of "metapackage" for codecs stuff (mp3...?) coz for whatever reason i can't get rhythmbox to play FLAC... :-/
[03:55] <penguin42> Frogzoo: Thanks for trying
[03:55] <dade> onkar: the probelm is that the hardware i mentioned doesn't work under ubuntu, so no sound, no ethernet (!!!) and no USB (!!!)
[03:55] <chuckyp> !tell nico8481 about restricted
[03:55] <onkarshinde> dade: What kind of device? Try 'lsusb' so see if you see device listed
[03:55] <Thug-N-Me> threeseas so your x server doesnt start ?
[03:55] <dade> onkar: i try immediately
[03:56] <kevor> Can anybody help me, i can't install anything, i get an error that the files are not found or forbidden (404 or 403)
[03:56] <penguin42> kevor: When you do what? An apt-get or upgrade?
[03:56] <Thug-N-Me> threeseas try start x from a diffrent terminal " ctrl + alt + F1" ... and look for the logs
[03:56] <gazanfer> my winxp partition is at hda5 (or it seems so). what should i write for root at grub configuration file?
[03:56] <kevor> penguin42: install something with synaptic
[03:56] <Frogzoo> penguin42: which flash do you use though? I use flashplugin-nonfree
[03:57] <sorush20> gazanfer: I think there is a really good wiki on ubuntu..
[03:57] <sorush20> !grub
[03:57] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:57] <penguin42> kevor: Do you need to use a proxy or anything like that to get to the net?
[03:57] <kevor> penguin42: nothing, and it has always worked
[03:57] <onkarshinde> gazanfer: In /boot/grub/menu.lst you will find example configuration
[03:57] <penguin42> Frogzoo: I think I probably have a manually installed one - I'll give that a go
[03:58] <Thug-N-Me> kevor what about browsing ?
[03:58] <penguin42> kevor: OK, from a root command line try    apt-get update
[03:59] <GFDL> penguin42, why from a root command line?
[03:59] <nico8481> chuckyp, yeah i know about that but i mean it's a pain in the *** to install all that things one by one... i thought there was a metapackage or something (with a name like "easy-something")?
[03:59] <pab1> is there any way to access a printer that is hooked up to a windows machine with linux?
[03:59] <penguin42> GFDL: Or a sudo - just as root
[03:59] <onkarshinde> pab1: samba
[03:59] <penguin42> pab1: Yeh you should be able to print to it if Windows shares it
[03:59] <slank> Hello! I've got a question...who pays for the free CDs that Ubuntu ships for free? I assume it's donations, but it's not actually stated anywhere on the website that I can find.
[03:59] <GFDL> penguin42, that's better
[03:59] <Healot> easy-source?
[04:00] <Frogzoo> !sabdfl
[04:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, sabdfl is Mark Shuttleworth, cosmonaut and founder of Canonical and Ubuntu
[04:00] <dade> onkar: lsusb yelds bus 003, 002, 001 device 001 for all these 3 devices and ID 0000:0000 for all the three
[04:00] <pab1> onkarshinde: the printer is on the windows box :)
[04:00] <onkarshinde> slank: Canonical Limited
[04:00] <GFDL> slack_prad, mr. shuttleworth himself, he is a millionaire
[04:00] <GFDL> slack_prad, he has enough money to burn
[04:00] <pab1> penguin42: really?  nothing special required eh?
[04:00] <onkarshinde> pab1: Oops. I think Samba works for reverse thing.
[04:00] <pab1> ya hehe
[04:00] <chuckyp> http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2006031201326NWDBDT
[04:00] <dade> onkar: when i try to attach say a mouse lsusb freezes
[04:00] <penguin42> dade: Now plug something in
[04:00] <Healot> slank, they are evil organizations donating to ubuntu, just kidding
[04:00] <kbrooks> GFDL, craziness.
[04:00] <airmikey> breezy sees my 1.1 usb port but not my 2.0 usb port...how do i fix this ?
[04:01] <penguin42> pab1: Well there is a thing called samba that does it - I'm just assuming Ubuntu has it preinstalled
[04:01] <pab1> doh
[04:01] <sorush20> whyami: did you manage to fix things up?
[04:01] <onkarshinde> dade: Never geard of such problem with USB ever.
[04:01] <pab1> penguin42: i want to do the reverse of what smb does
[04:01] <dade> penguin: done: lsusb just crashes
[04:01] <dade> !
[04:01] <ubotu> dade: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:01] <slack_prad> GFDL huh?
[04:01] <pab1> penguin42: printer plugged to windows box
[04:01] <penguin42> pab1: Yeh - just go to administration->printing, add a printer, select network printer->windows printer
[04:01] <GFDL> slack_prad, huh what
[04:02] <pab1> penguin42: hm ill try
[04:02] <slack_prad> GFDL were you saying something to me?
[04:02] <GFDL> slack_prad, yes
[04:02] <slank> onkarshinde: Shouldn't that be in the FAQ? Seems like a missed marketing opp at the very least :)
[04:02] <penguin42> pab1: Samba actually covers the sins of both directions of working with Windows
[04:02] <Healot> airmikey, do "modprobe ehci_hcd", if it returns without error, then your USB 2.0 should be fine
[04:02] <jono> hi all
[04:03] <slack_prad> GFDL didn't get it
[04:03] <airmikey> ok ill try tat
[04:03] <jono> there is an ubuntu init script for adding extra programs that be started at boot - what is it?
[04:03] <jono> like a local init script
[04:03] <GFDL> slack_prad, it's OK don't worrz
[04:03] <GFDL> worry
[04:03] <Healot> btw, ehci_hcd is the thing that enables full speed USB 2.0
[04:03] <slack_prad> GFDL :/
[04:04] <dade> okarshinde: yes, but I actually have that problem: my USB seems dead!
[04:04] <onkarshinde> slank: I don't understand how it is Marketing opp?
[04:04] <Frogzoo> jono: update-rc.d  or 'bum' perhaps
[04:04] <airmikey> Healot: Module ehci not found.
[04:04] <slack_prad> anyone have any ideas on the ubuntu Certification that's coming up?
[04:04] <penguin42> dade: So if you plugin another USB device does lsusb change?
[04:04] <sorush20> onkarshinde: linux has been around and running like this for years..
[04:05] <dade> so guys, what do I do? lsusb freezes everytime I type the command...
[04:05] <slickeddie> thanx for all the help guys, i got it installed.
[04:05] <Healot> "modprobe ehci_hcd" >> did you miss anything. airmikey
[04:05] <kevor> penguin42: still not working
[04:05] <sorush20> onkarshinde: simple supply and demand,, like a charity..
[04:05] <dade> penguin: no lsusb doesn't print anythig after i connected that mouse
[04:05] <Frogzoo> slack_prad: linkie pls?
[04:05] <LinuxJones> jono, you can use /etc/rcS.d/5bootmisc.sh
[04:06] <penguin42> dade: Freezes?  Every time?   Does it matter which of your many USB ports you plug the mouse into?
[04:06] <airmikey> yeap sorry
[04:06] <onkarshinde> sorush20: But some projects like GNOME receive industry funding.
[04:06] <Frogzoo> slack_prad: oh, here we go... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EngineerCertification
[04:06] <slank> onkarshinde: Well, publicity for the organisation. In any case, I was surprised not to find that info on the website. I would think it was important to know who's money you're getting when you order the CDs.
[04:06] <dade> penguin: i've tried only with one port!
[04:06] <LinuxJones> jono, err make that /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:06] <slack_prad> or better : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification
[04:06] <dade> penguin: i reboot and try another
[04:06] <kbrooks> lol
[04:06] <penguin42> kevor: Have a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list   and see which mirror it points to  - then see if you can get to it in a browser
[04:07] <sorush20> onkarshinde: well you get what you ask for and you don't get what you don't ask for.. if you want have your say just check out #ubuntu-meetings and ask when meeting is best to talk about this..
[04:07] <slack_prad> are they trying to compete with the RHCE ?
[04:07] <slack_prad> sounds so commercial to me :/
[04:07] <Zardiac> I have my camera working.. and I wonder if you guys know a software wheere I can have vieo conversation with windoes users.. (I can nto use amsn because I am runnign xgl)
[04:08] <sorush20> kevor: make a new source list with source-o-matic
[04:08] <penguin42> Zardiac: Try   gnomemeeting
[04:08] <kevor> penguin42: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ are you able to view this file?
[04:08] <sorush20> !source-o-matic
[04:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:08] <airmikey> Heatlot:gonna reboot to turn 2.0 port back on
[04:08] <kbrooks> windows is a sin.
[04:08] <lck1> why ubuntu+X+gnome starts acting dumb after 2 days of uptime?
[04:08] <onkarshinde> sorush20: I didn't start the topic. I am not this new to Linux. I have been using Linux for about four years now.
[04:08] <predius_> sssis there a way to mount .bin files? just as isos?
[04:09] <sorush20> onkarshinde: okay
[04:09] <penguin42> kevor: No, it should be   http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:09] <kbrooks> REPEAT: ANYONE WHO USES WINDOWS IS SINFUL
[04:09] <kbrooks> MICROSOFT IS SINFUL FOR CREATING WINDOWS
[04:09] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: No debates on this channel please.
[04:09] <Frogzoo> slack_prad: certification is where the whole industry's headed...
[04:09] <IdleOne> kbrooks>  caps off please and no microsoft bashing either :)
[04:09] <recon00> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:09] <penguin42> kbrooks: Shhhh
[04:10] <slack_prad> kbrooks : can't we just focus on ubuntu ?
[04:10] <Healot> kbrooks, hell no...
[04:10] <brosioz> syslog:Mar 12 16:11:14 Melchior-1 atftpd[28347] : Advanced Trivial FTP server started (0.7)
[04:10] <brosioz> syslog:Mar 12 16:11:14 Melchior-1 atftpd[28348] : atftpd: can't bind port 192.168.1.4:21/udp
[04:10] <kbrooks> :)
[04:10] <brosioz> i get this in syslogd :\
[04:10] <brosioz> anyone can help me to resolve ?
[04:10] <Healot> brosioz, use pastebin for logs
[04:10] <penguin42> brosioz: Are you running that as root?
[04:10] <brosioz> yes
[04:11] <penguin42> brosioz: Do you have another tftp server running?
[04:11] <recon00> "sudo apt-get install blackbox" isn't working for me. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10061. Any help?
[04:11] <alapzaj_> I have problem with radeon mobility 7500 and fglrx! Can give me a help or a good how-to?
[04:11] <slack_prad> Frogzoo: the certification would certainly bring ubuntu into mainstream
[04:11] <kevor> penguin42: i guess they have shut down the update servers... time for gentoo now i guess, this is bs.. pure bs
[04:11] <marlun_> If I've got ssh running (hanging) in terminal 1, how can I kill it from another terminal?
[04:11] <penguin42> slack_prad: I'm not sure - certification doesnt really do anything for me
[04:11] <penguin42> marlun_: Try typing ~.  into the failing one
[04:11] <slack_prad> Frogzoo: but it feels like it is being, you know, commercialed
[04:11] <brosioz> sure not
[04:12] <brosioz> i doesn't bind to 21
[04:12] <brosioz> port :|
[04:12] <penguin42> kevor: No! Just make it   /ubuntu on the end of that URL
[04:12] <recon00> Can anybody help me with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10061 ?
[04:12] <slack_prad> commercialized
[04:12] <Frogzoo> brosioz: what the hell are you running tftp on port 21 for? 69 usually...
[04:12] <LinuxJones> marlun_, sudo killall servicename
[04:12] <onkarshinde> recon00: It is conflicting with fluxbox. Not your fault
[04:12] <marlun_> penguin42: nothing happends.
[04:12] <sorush20> alapzaj_: i take is you have read the wiki on the ATI how to ?
[04:12] <sorush20> !ATI
[04:12] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:12] <marlun_> LinuxJones: thanks, will try.
[04:12] <sophtpaw> SWAT: u there?
[04:12] <recon00> onkarshinde: Is it safe to overwrite?
[04:12] <ompaul> Frogzoo, people use different ports to walk around security
[04:12] <brosioz> Frogzoo: maybe dhclient
[04:12] <brosioz> ?
[04:12] <jono> cheers
[04:13] <kevor> penguin42: this is not the first time this happens, in some hours i'm possebly possible to dl the updates..
[04:13] <dade> penguin: the story is the same even if I change the usb port i plug my device into: lsusb freezes
[04:13] <kbrooks> ompaul, thats security thru obscurity
[04:13] <vader> I givue up on it for now.......been going on it too long, maybe I will see my problem with fresh eyes
[04:13] <onkarshinde> recon00: Not sure. Never used fluxboz or blackbox
[04:13] <Frogzoo> brosioz: well kill off whatever ftpd you have running & try again
[04:13] <penguin42> kevor: It sounds to me like your source.list is just wrong
[04:13] <kbrooks> ompaul, anyone WILL EVENTUALLY find the port
[04:13] <slack_prad> penguin42 when there's a certification for something ... it does add 'value' to ubuntu
[04:13] <ompaul> kbrooks, concur, you build a high wall and people want to know how to walk around it
[04:13] <penguin42> slack_prad: Hmm
[04:13] <sorush20> recon00: i'm having the same problem..
[04:14] <kevor> penguin42: my source.list has been "right" for half a year now :P
[04:14] <slack_prad> penguin42 like all those MCSE exams
[04:14] <slack_prad> ;)
[04:14] <penguin42> slack_prad: Hmm
[04:14] <recon00> onkarshinde: sorush20: since fluxbox is based on blackbox, i'm gonna use --overwrite and take my chances.
[04:14] <slack_prad> penguin42: hmm = thinking?
[04:14] <sorush20> recon00: oaky
[04:14] <penguin42> kevor: It sounds wrong now!  Or perhaps the .nl guys moved it; just go and fix it to point to the right URLs
[04:14] <penguin42> slack_prad: No - hmm as in not quite believing it
[04:15] <oasick> hi
[04:15] <sophtpaw> Hoping someone can help me: installed Dapper on my partition apparently, but since then Breezy has been acting up. Can someone help me sort this out, please?
[04:15] <sorush20> hi
[04:15] <slack_prad> penguin42 so you're saying it won't add any value
[04:15] <sorush20> oasick: hi
[04:15] <penguin42> slack_prad: I'm not convinced it will
[04:16] <Lorvija> Boinc Projekt: Progress: 0.% Time: N/A Credits: Recent average credit: Spike: Total CPU Time: N/A Team: Name: Reg Date:
[04:16] <Lorvija> wops sorry
[04:17] <oasick> i have updated to ubuntu dapper
[04:17] <oasick> but my dns dont save to reboot...
[04:17] <airmikey> how do i get breezy to see my 2.0 usb port, sees 1.1 ort just fine
[04:17] <sophtpaw> no?
[04:18] <ppd> hi, does anybody happen to know how to get the lirc modules on dapper?
[04:18] <sophtpaw> hello, can someone help me please?
[04:18] <IdleOne> !someone
[04:18] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:18] <penguin42> airmikey: if you do an lspci do you see a line that talks about 'ehci' ?
[04:18] <sorush20> sophtpaw: what is the problem?
[04:18] <sophtpaw> welll i did post my question more thanonce
[04:18] <IdleOne> ppd join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[04:18] <sophtpaw> so i'm not part of that 9%
[04:18] <sophtpaw> 90%
[04:19] <bicky> wow, this must be the most fullest channel I've ever seen
[04:19] <prateep> hi, i'm not sure if this is the right place for this but i've just upgraded to Dapper and now I can't get sound to work.   Any assistance would be much appreciated
[04:19] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: if you installed dapper onto the same partition as breezy, you are in for a world of hurt
[04:19] <sorush20> bicky: I saw if once in the 700
[04:19] <LinuxJones> bicky, tell all your friends ;)
[04:19] <sophtpaw> Fogzoo, i'm hoping i didn't
[04:19] <IdleOne> prateep>  join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[04:19] <triablo_> How to fix this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH ??????
[04:19] <chuckyp> IdleOne, pie?
[04:19] <sophtpaw> but i need help to check out whether i did or not
[04:19] <bicky> IdleOne = thotter ?
[04:19] <airmikey> penguin42: nope
[04:19] <LinuxJones> triablo_, install the build-essential package
[04:19] <dade> i don't think i'll go through this USB, ethernet and AC97 problems so...i'll format partition and give space back to windows. Thanks for help anyway
[04:19] <sorush20> sophtpaw: remind us
[04:20] <IdleOne> triablo_>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:20] <IdleOne> chuckyp>  yeah pie is good !
[04:20] <penguin42> airmonkey: Oh
[04:20] <chuckyp> dade, ac97 works usb should work and ethernet will work.
[04:20] <chuckyp> dade, bud do what you wish.
[04:20] <AUCI> Hello ppl,
[04:20] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cat /etc/issue
[04:20] <ompaul> hello AUCI
[04:20] <AUCI> Can I restore Ubuntu using the cd?
[04:20] <sophtpaw> like Frogzoo says, i installed Dapper on possibly a breezy partition. Ever since breezy has been acting up
[04:20] <penguin42> airmonkey: Can you post a copy of your lspci to pastebin please
[04:20] <dade> chuckyup: yes but it's 2 days i'm searching forums...
[04:20] <airmikey> awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:21] <airmikey> lol
[04:21] <sophtpaw> i need help to see whether i've done that or not and what  the situation is, sorush20
[04:21] <dade> chuckyup: with absoluely no results
[04:21] <bicky> any1 here with a AMD athlon thunderbird 1400mghz ?
[04:21] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cat /etc/issue
[04:21] <sorush20> sophtpaw: done what?
[04:21] <sophtpaw> conrad@x1-6-00-0b-6a-16-78-f0baraka:~$ cat /etc/issue
[04:21] <sophtpaw> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[04:22] <penguin42> bicky: I've got a dual Athlon MP 1500MHz - so similar
[04:22] <bicky> pinguin does ubuntu runs stable on your pc ?
[04:22] <penguin42> bicky: Yes
[04:22] <bicky> ... I cant get mine stable :'(
[04:22] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: well that looks promising - if it had said dapper it'd all be over
[04:22] <sophtpaw> sorush20: i installed Dapper yesterday, on my spare partition, or so i thought. Ever since i've got problems with Breezy, which leads me to suspect i might have made a mistake with the Dapper insallation
[04:22] <penguin42> bicky: Any particular problems?
[04:23] <LinuxJones> AUCI, what is wrong ?
[04:23] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: phew, ok, what next?
[04:23] <bicky> penguin: yes, I think it's something in the bios, only win98 wants to run a bit stable on my pc
[04:23] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: is that all your partitions?
[04:23] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: i did fdisk -l
[04:23] <penguin42> bicky: Run a ram test (memtest86) on it over night and see if it is happy
[04:23] <recon00> gnomefreak: Just one more question: I'm looking for a file viewer to use in fluxbox. for example: konquerer is to KDE as nautilus is to GNOME as ? is to fluxbox.
[04:23] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: pastebin?
[04:23] <sophtpaw> can i send it in the pastebin
[04:23] <sophtpaw> ok
[04:24] <chuckyp> !paste
[04:24] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:24] <sophtpaw> havent done it before do i just put your name in?
[04:24] <sorush20> sophtpaw: personally I would not upgrade to dapper because I'm happy with what I have at the moment.. and since its got bugs still.. and I don't know how they are going to fix the hotplug system
[04:24] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, your name doesn't matter just post thne copy the url
[04:24] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: just post the URL back here when you're done
[04:24] <AUCI> Has any of you seen this and have a working solution? Error:
[04:24] <AUCI> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnautilus-extension1_2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline.
[04:24] <chuckyp> sophtpaw, if you are trying to upgrade to dapper you should be in #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <penguin42> AUCI: Odd - is your disc full - or been full recently?
[04:25] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10067
[04:25] <sorush20> sophtpaw: your name would be good so that you could search and find your posts quickly..
[04:25] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: the point is, you need to check for each partition you haven't written dapper over breezy - ie / /etc /home ...
[04:26] <sophtpaw> chuckyp: not upgrading breezy to dapper; i wanted to have kubuntu on my other half, while keeping breezy as it was till the formal full release
[04:26] <AUCI> no, i did have some problems and use fsck.
[04:26] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: looks like you have breezy on hda1 & dapper on hda2 - this should be fine (in a perfect world)
[04:27] <sorush20> bye guys got to go..
[04:27] <sophtpaw> sorush20: is that better; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10068
[04:27] <ompaul> AUCI, try >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< as a command line
[04:27] <ompaul> AUCI, does the box come up at all?
[04:27] <AUCI> hmm nice Ill try it
[04:27] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: is this a lappie? are you using suspend?
[04:28] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: yes, that was what was intended breezy on hda1 & dapper(kubuntu) on hda2 - exactly. So, what could be the problem?
[04:28] <bicky> penguin: I ran a ram test lately and there's no problems with that,.. you dont think it's in the bios ?
[04:28] <sophtpaw> lappie; suspend?
[04:28] <david64> Hye evrybdy, is smbdy run laszlo system under linux?
[04:28] <wonder> hello, i have got a problem with installing the nvidia gfx card driver. i removed the ubuntu driver and grabbed the driver from nvidias website. i run the installer and everything works fine. after restarting gdm i get my graphical interface. BUT.... when rebooting the xserver is unable to start. it complains about having loaded a different kernel module then needed. when i reinstall the nvidia driver it works for the session but after re
[04:28] <wonder> boot x won't start agian.
[04:28] <AUCI> yes, when im installing the updates is when I recieve this error about nautilus
[04:28] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: laptop & suspend to disk (which might be a problem with swap shared between installs)
[04:28] <sophtpaw> i'm using a pc desktop?
[04:29] <LinuxJones> wonder, stick with the ubuntu version and add nvidia to the /etc/modules file.
[04:29] <ompaul> AUCI, just try that and maybe before that - >>sudo apt-get update<< first
[04:29] <wonder> LinuxJones: i have got nvidia in /etc/modules
[04:29] <penguin42> bicky: Well it could be - but I'd only trust memtest86 overnight for a good ram test - you could have a heat problem or the like - its a bit difficult to tell
[04:29] <SpookyET> hi
[04:29] <ompaul> AUCI, I take it you are not on dapper
[04:29] <AUCI> I did that and i got critical errors
[04:29] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo:  i thought one swap was sufficient for two installs to share - its not been a problem before. Is it better to have separate swaps for each install?
[04:30] <SpookyET> Rhythmbox is driving me nuts.  It keeps crashing.
[04:30] <LinuxJones> wonder, but it only works once it's been initially installed but not after ?
[04:30] <AUCI> can I boot from the ubuntu cd and repair?
[04:30] <kbrooks> sophtpaw, there is no norm.
[04:30] <sophtpaw> kbrooks: ok, recommended?
[04:30] <penguin42> right; Futurama calls
[04:30] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: it's fine - just not sure if suspend to disk would have a problem
[04:30] <kbrooks> but you might as well use 1 swap for multiple distros
[04:30] <orangizer> hi
[04:31] <ompaul> AUCI, not yet start here >>apt-get -f update<<
[04:31] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: if Dapper is indeed on hda2 then there would be no way for it to infect hda1, right?
[04:31] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: but as you're not using suspend to disk - it's a non issue
[04:31] <AUCI> ill try it
[04:31] <bicky> penguin: it isn't a heat problem, it's also unstable when I boot ubuntu at the first computer start up of the day
[04:31] <SpookyET> can anyone tell me where the rhythmbox error log is?
[04:31] <ompaul> AUCI, -f is your friend, did you by any chance use any tools to help you "improve" on your install
[04:32] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: in a perfect world, no - but then what messed your menus up? dapper looks like the only culprit ?
[04:32] <ompaul> sophtpaw, in 9,999 out of 10,000 cased you should be okay
[04:32] <dan> how do i access my Windows partitions A
[04:32] <bicky> mount it
[04:32] <ompaul> !tell dan about ntfs
[04:32] <ompaul> dan, read the note from the bot
[04:33] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: exactly, what did mess the menus up. All started with wineExplorer crashing
[04:33] <dan> how do i access my Windows partitions as it says that i do not have permisson to open it - i am the only person and account who uses it and they are mounted
[04:33] <sophtpaw> ompaul: that is a 0.01% chance?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> dan: sudo
[04:33] <SpookyET> Is there a way to tell rhythmbox to use sqlite instead of xml to store the library?
[04:33] <dan> sudo?
[04:34] <bicky> it gives you privileges
[04:34] <dan> how do i do that?
[04:34] <ompaul> sophtpaw, you could strike it lucky :-/
[04:34] <bicky> just put sudo in front of you mount command
[04:34] <Frogzoo> ompaul: what if the install uses volume labels instead of device names? that could be a problem in some places
[04:34] <sophtpaw> i wish i was that lucky, i'd play the lottery now
[04:34] <bicky> like: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /windows
[04:35] <Ironhand> could someone give me some pointers to package names and/or documents that are relevant for managing a network of identical Ubuntu-based workstations?
[04:35] <ompaul> dan, the bot sent you a URL with full instructions on how to do that
[04:36] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: only way to really know what's going on is mount hda2 & check dapper is actually installed there - I take it grub lets you boot hda2 ?
[04:36] <AUCI> yep not on dapper, Im just a newbie on Linux, I like it but like with all things i need to have patience, because im screwing up every couple of days .lol
[04:36] <kbrooks> AUCI, screwing up how? heh
[04:36] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: tried sudo mount /dev/hda2 but the command don't work, Which is the right command please?
[04:37] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: sudo mkdir /mnt; sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[04:37] <sophtpaw> mount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:37] <bicky> open fstab and put the info about /dev/hda2 in there
[04:39] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: sudo mkdir /mnt
[04:39] <sophtpaw> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt': File exists
[04:39] <maihem> I've just tried to test accessibility support in Dapper, and after enabling it then logging out and in again, my gnome desktop won't start. nor will a failsafe gnome - or any gnome programs from under enlightenment.
[04:39] <sophtpaw> ?
[04:39] <maihem> Does anybody know how to disable accessibility from the commandline?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cool, just 'sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:39] <GTX> maihem, #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <sophtpaw> that didn' twork either
[04:40] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cool, just 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:40] <maihem> GTK?
[04:40] <maihem> GTX?
[04:40] <LoPMX> eeehaaa
[04:40] <ompaul> AUCI, you mentioned fsck - why was it run? also if your getting used to reinstalling, you could consider a reinstall before you alter anything come back to us and we can help you a lot to do things right, saves on learning by breaking time :-)
[04:40] <LoPMX> running xchat on windows ;] 
[04:41] <GTX> maihem, no dapper support in here. only beezy
[04:41] <maihem> oh
[04:41] <ompaul> maihem, dapper is in channel #ubuntu+1
[04:41] <heyjoe2> when trying to open an avi file in totem, i only get the sound, not the picture. is it a dodgy cd burn or is it ubuntu?
[04:41] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt
[04:41] <sophtpaw> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /mnt busy
[04:41] <sophtpaw> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[04:41] <AUCI> thanks ill do that
[04:41] <AUCI> thanks for your time, I really appreciated it
[04:41] <max300> whats the string to install a dpkg after you cd it?
[04:41] <bicky> sophtpaw unmount it, and remount it then
[04:42] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: & you're sure you didn't already mount hda2 on /mnt ?
[04:42] <sophtpaw> no, i'm not sure i didn't already -   i may have.
[04:42] <heyjoe2> when trying to open an avi file in totem, i only get the sound, not the picture. is it a dodgy cd burn or is it ubuntu?
[04:42] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cat /mnt/etc/issue
[04:43] <max300> how do i install a deb pakage
[04:43] <Frogzoo> !deb
[04:43] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:43] <lck1> how do you add a user and give it an admin access?
[04:43] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: Ubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l
[04:43] <bicky> any1 here got this combo: epox EP-8KTA3 with AMD athlon thunderbird 1400mghz ?? =P
[04:43] <warpzone> hey guys, having a strange problem. My sudo command doesn't work at all. Any command following 'sudo' does nothing.
[04:44] <Jemt> Greetz. I have and old IBM laptop which I want to install Ubuntu onto. But all I got is a non-bootable CD-ROM drive. It works fine from Windows95 though. Is there some way I can boot the Ubuntu installer from Windows?
[04:44] <heyjoe2> now ubuntu isnt opening my cd rom? can i make it from terminal?
[04:44] <max300> thx
[04:44] <Jemt> heyjoe2: You need to umount the drive
[04:44] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: ls -ld /mnt/home/USER/.*
[04:44] <Jemt> heyjoe2: Running Gnome?
[04:44] <heyjoe2> jemt: yep
[04:45] <kbrooks> here is a (slightly offtopic) question: why would anyone want the "latest" version of anything (e.g. Xorg 7 instead of a older Xorg version)?
[04:45] <Jemt> heyjoe2: Right click on the drive on your desktop and choose 'eject'
[04:45] <Frogzoo> kbrooks: for the old features & new bugs :)
[04:45] <lck1> how do you add a user and give it an admin access?
[04:45] <Jemt> kbrooks: To get the most recent features, yes
[04:45] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo:  ls -ld /mnt/home/USER/.*
[04:45] <sophtpaw> ls: /mnt/home/USER/.*: No such file or directory
[04:46] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: well, USER should be your base user
[04:46] <dan> where would i find /etc/fstab   ?
[04:46] <heyjoe2> jemt: cheers
[04:46] <bicky> XD
[04:46] <heyjoe2> when trying to open an avi file in totem, i only get the sound, not the picture. is it a dodgy cd burn or is it ubuntu?
[04:46] <sophtpaw> what is base user? is that me?
[04:46] <bicky> dan: maybe in /etc :)
[04:46] <airmikey> how do i get breezy to detect anything plugged into my 2.0 usb port ?
[04:46] <Jemt> heyjoe2: Welcome :)
[04:46] <Frogzoo> dan: is this a trick question? who lies buried in Grant's tomb?
[04:47] <gargas> hwllo!i have a tv tuner card. how can i find if its compartible with linux and if yes how can i operate it?
[04:47] <dan> Frogzoo, no - where do i look for the ect folder?
[04:47] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: yes, I mean you
[04:47] <dan> etc*
[04:47] <carl> need help system keeps crashing
[04:47] <gargas> hwllo!i have a tv tuner card. how can i find if its compartible with linux and if yes how can i operate it?
[04:47] <nubious> frog: cd /etc
[04:48] <lck1> does 'sudo' only work on ubuntu or all nix ?
[04:48] <zxcvbn> gargas, do you know the chipset it's based on?
[04:48] <bicky> people always told me that there are no dumb questions, but dan is getting near ;)
[04:48] <Frogzoo> dan: fstab is in the directory 'etc' - this directory can be found within '/'
[04:48] <nubious> I think sudo is an ubuntu thing
[04:48] <lck1> i know 'su' works on any nix
[04:48] <nubious> hey Gargas - have you tried the manufacturer's website?  what kinda tv tuner you got?
[04:48] <lck1> i don't know about sudo
[04:48] <nubious> <-- has a WinTV PVR-150
[04:48] <Frogzoo> nubious: sudo is a unix/linux thing - it's fairly general - might be posix? dunno
[04:48] <gargas> leadtek
[04:48] <nubious> really frogzoo?
[04:48] <nubious> hmm
[04:48] <GFDL> lck1, set a password for root and you can bypass the sudo stuff
[04:48] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10073
[04:49] <nubious> I thought you had to SU into root
[04:49] <kbrooks> sudo works on all unix
[04:49] <lck1> ic
[04:49] <nubious> does it work on other linux tho?
[04:49] <nubious> or just unix
[04:49] <chuckyp> gargas, there is a lot of support for tv cards with ivtv drivers.
[04:49] <dan> bicky - sorry i jast have not got a clue what i am doing, last time i mounted my Hd i could access them fine but for some reason when i had to format my HD - and mounted the HDs i couldn get access to then
[04:49] <GFDL> I don't like sudo. I don't like to type sudo this, sudo that
[04:49] <GFDL> I want to du su ONCE
[04:49] <FenX> re
[04:49] <chuckyp> GFDL, then sudo passwd
[04:49] <GFDL> and then run the commands I need
[04:49] <nubious> I agree gfdl
[04:49] <zxcvbn> gah, i can't remember how to view the pci bus device information..
[04:49] <chuckyp> GFDL, and type a password for root.
[04:49] <GFDL> no I don't want to do sudo passwd
[04:50] <ron_> lol
[04:50] <nubious> ahahaha
[04:50] <chuckyp> lol
[04:50] <simo_> do u know where can  i find the artwork room?
[04:50] <max300> i installed cedega 5.2 but wen i try to open an exe with it it says to install a vertsion of cedega
[04:50] <GFDL> on my suse boxes I do su, redhat boxes I do su, debian boxes I do su
[04:50] <GFDL> not sudo
[04:50] <nubious> whats the apt-get install command to install the KDE environment?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> GFDL: sudo -i
[04:50] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: well it's all there - doesn't look like anything's amiss really
[04:50] <GFDL> no no sudo
[04:50] <chuckyp> max300, #cedega
[04:50] <kbrooks> simo_, #ubuntu-art
[04:50] <ompaul> GFDL, then ubutus ways are not for you
[04:50] <eFfeM> GFDL: su bash
[04:50] <gnomefreak> GFDL: than use debian or redhat
[04:50] <kbrooks> or #ubuntu-artwork
[04:50] <simo_> thanks kbrooks
[04:50] <GFDL> you can change ubuntu to behave like a sane distribution
[04:50] <gargas> the drivers for the tv card are only for windows
[04:50] <chuckyp> GFDL, if you type sudo passwd its the last time you have to type sudo.
[04:50] <eFfeM> or sudo bash
[04:50] <carl> how do i install nvidia drivers?
[04:51] <GFDL> I never use sudo on my breezy or dapper systems
[04:51] <lck1> nubious,  sudo aptitude install kde ?
[04:51] <kbrooks> chuckyp, ubuntu way please!!!!!
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell carl about nvidia
[04:51] <eFfeM> or once sudo bash then set the root passwd
[04:51] <chuckyp> !tell carl about nvidia
[04:51] <eFfeM> and use su
[04:51] <GFDL> I hate sudo
[04:51] <nubious> ubotu tell nubious about nvidia
[04:51] <ompaul> GFDL, I consider you trolling
[04:51] <kbrooks> GFDL, then dont use ubuntu.
[04:51] <triablo_> how to fix this: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0...
[04:51] <triablo_> *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.10.1, but GLIB (2.8.3)
[04:51] <triablo_> *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
[04:51] <triablo_> *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
[04:51] <triablo_> *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
[04:51] <triablo_> *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
[04:51] <triablo_> *** required on your system.
[04:51] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: well, that is good news i suppose. Just left wondering ovre the coincidence of wineExplorer crashing just after installing Dapper and my menus getting frozen too
[04:51] <triablo_> *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[04:51] <ompaul> triablo_, dont do that
[04:51] <triablo_> *** to point to the correct configuration files
[04:51] <ompaul> triablo_, STOP!
[04:51] <kbrooks> ompaul, whats a troll?
[04:51] <triablo_> k:(
[04:51] <chuckyp> kbrooks, why not let GFDL get rid of sudo like he wants. To ubuntu way is to customize to your liking.  Not to use sudo as the end all tool.
[04:51] <GFDL> why? I can use sudo and still use ubuntu
[04:51] <lck1> sometimes i just 'su' so i aint got to type sudo everytime
[04:51] <GFDL> I mean su
[04:51] <lck1> you know
[04:52] <chuckyp> GFDL, you can get rid of sudo also.
[04:52] <nubious> woah
[04:52] <chuckyp> GFDL, you can do what ever you like.
[04:52] <zxcvbn> gargas,  cat /proc/bus/pci/devices may give you some more detailed info about your card (i'm sure there is a better way, anyone?)
[04:52] <eFfeM> GFDL: only sudo once then do rm /usr/bin/sudo (and don't complain here afterwards)
[04:52] <kbrooks> ompaul, What is a troll?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> GFDL: using su screws with permissions for sudo that means the apps that need sudo password will not work
[04:52] <GFDL> I know, care to explain why do some folks claim "ubuntu is not for you" when I use ubuntu everyday but can't stand sudo?
[04:52] <heyjoe2> when trying to open an avi file in totem, i only get the sound, not the picture. is it a dodgy cd burn or is it ubuntu?
[04:52] <bicky> gaint ugly beast in fantasy worlds ;)
[04:52] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: SWAT gave me a dpkg command earlier which came back with errors which hinted at a major problem, which isalso partly how this whole hunt began
[04:53] <ompaul> kbrooks, msg for u
[04:53] <zxcvbn> i use su. i set the sudo timeout to 0. :)
[04:53] <IdleOne> GFDL>  that is a perfect topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:53] <nickrud> triablo_: you need to install libglib2.0-dev, but why are you compiling anyway?
[04:53] <GFDL> whatever
[04:53] <sophtpaw> so now still dont know if i've successfully removed wineExplorer completely so that i can create a fresh install
[04:53] <desousa2> hello :)
[04:53] <knubbe> anyone familiar with using Lucene?
[04:53] <kbrooks> GFDL, ...
[04:53] <elkbuntu|snoring> !troll http://www.psychocats.net/essays/linuxtroll.php
[04:53] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elkbuntu|snoring
[04:54] <kbrooks> GFDL, join it please.
[04:54] <elkbuntu|snoring> hmm
[04:54] <elkbuntu|snoring> ooh
[04:54] <elkbuntu> !troll http://www.psychocats.net/essays/linuxtroll.php
[04:54] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elkbuntu
[04:54] <triablo_> nickrud, I downloaded beta2 gaim, and it is available only in source tar ball
[04:54] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: do you, or anyone for that matter, know, how to check whether wineExplorer is completely wiped of the panet Breezy, please?
[04:54] <kbrooks> ompaul, "rude or offensive messages" -> how was his "rant" about sudo rude or offensive?
[04:55] <warpzone> speaking of sudo, my sudo command doesnt work at all. is there a way I can reinstall in?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> dpkg -r --purge wineExplorer
[04:55] <triablo_> nickrud, I installed Glib2 but the system doesnt recognize it :(
[04:55] <nickrud> triablo_: ok. you're gonna run into a bunch more errors like that, the simplest way to get past most of those will be sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[04:55] <desousa2> im learning php on school but they only teach us how to set it all up (home server) in windows ... since i have only ubuntu could you teach me how to set it up? i already gone to Synaptic and instal php5 (wich installs other modules ) and php5-mysql
[04:55] <Frogzoo> warpzone: are you a member of group admin?
[04:56] <Tikurion> This question was probably asked hundrets of times, but anybody got an idea when (K)Ubuntu 6.04 will be released?
[04:56] <max300> -_- all #cedega are empty!!
[04:56] <ompaul> kbrooks, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <kbrooks> desousa2, no one will teach you.
[04:56] <zxcvbn> Tikurion, same time as duke nukem forever
[04:56] <kbrooks> desousa2, only *guide* you.
[04:56] <warpzone> Frogzoo: yup. the command is there, and I dont get any permission errors, just literally, nothing happens with any command following sudo
[04:56] <Tikurion> ;)
[04:56] <simo_> i'm working on a skin for xmms for the drake human theme, can you tell me what r u thinking about? http://membres.lycos.fr/floyd168/main.bmp
[04:56] <nickrud> triablo_: that will get the development files you're gonna need
[04:56] <desousa2> or guide me
[04:56] <Tikurion> So, I'll wait 'til it's done, thanks ^_^
[04:57] <oe1hoerer> hello everyone
[04:57] <zxcvbn> lol
[04:57] <Frogzoo> warpzone: any chance someone's playing funny games with you?
[04:57] <triablo_> nickrud, thanx
[04:57] <oe1hoerer> anyone tried to customze usplash on dapper?
[04:58] <warpzone> Frogzoo: nope. it's been like this since I installed. I've just been using 'su' instead
[04:58] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo:  sudo dpkg -r wineExplorer
[04:58] <sophtpaw> Password:
[04:58] <sophtpaw> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1382:
[04:58] <sophtpaw>  `inst!lled' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field
[04:59] <desousa2> any one to help me?
[04:59] <desousa2> im learning php on school but they only teach us how to set it all up (home server) in windows ... since i have only ubuntu could you help me how to set it up? i already gone to Synaptic and instal php5 (wich installs other modules ) and php5-mysql
[04:59] <heyjoe2> when trying to open an avi file in totem, i only get the sound, not the picture. is it a dodgy cd burn or is it ubuntu?
[05:00] <simo_> what do u thing about that?  http://membres.lycos.fr/floyd168/main.bmp
[05:00] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: wow - that sucks
[05:01] <dan> i really cba to play around with it trying to get it working - if i reinstall linux and mount my partitions it should work right?
[05:01] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: yeah, that how this whole enquiry started
[05:01] <zxcvbn> !tell zxcvbn about fonts
[05:01] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: i don't know what it means, but looks like there is a problem with dpkg?
[05:01] <nickrud> sophtpaw: just above line 1382, what package is it referencing?
[05:02] <desousa2> heyjoe2, i have that problem to
[05:02] <desousa2> i install automatix
[05:02] <sophtpaw> nickrud: i don't understand. was trying to remove wineExplorer
[05:03] <desousa2> and it solved some problems
[05:03] <ompaul> !automatix
[05:03] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:03] <triablo_> nickrud, I installed the development files but it gives me the same error: Glib2.0 is required
[05:03] <bigfoot1> how come sound-converter's lowest bitrate is 64kbps? i'd like to do half of that.
[05:04] <sophtpaw> well, i'm stumped then
[05:05] <nickrud> triablo_: you could take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim?highlight=%28gaim%29
[05:05] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: is this the end of the line?
[05:05] <jaeek> can i upgrade to dapper from 5.10?
[05:05] <IdleOne> elkbuntu>  that was a good article in the spirit of Ubuntu :)
[05:05] <sophtpaw> nickrud: sorry i did n't understand your question
[05:05] <Drakonia> hello everyone
[05:05] <IdleOne> hello
[05:05] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, its not mine, but it's pretty good, describes it right down to a t
[05:05] <jaeek> howdy
[05:05] <bigfoot1> how can i downgrade a 164 kpbs mp3 to 32 kbps?
[05:06] <Drakonia> i have a g4 and downloaded the powerpc install iso for ubuntu on my PC
[05:06] <nickrud> sophtpaw: I'm dancing on the edge of what I know now, but you do need to fix that. I'd back up that status file, and make line 1382 have installed
[05:06] <IdleOne> elkbuntu>  I liked it and think it is a good article for a factoid
[05:06] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[05:06] <Drakonia> i burned the iso on cd and put that disc into my g4 but it doesn't load the install when the powerpc boots up
[05:06] <Drakonia> can anyone help?
[05:06] <Gomez> #debia-it
[05:06] <IdleOne> Drakonia>  reboot and hold the C key
[05:06] <Gomez> #debian-it
[05:06] <nickrud> sophtpaw: I think there's a way to automatically fix status files (I would hope, anyway) but don't know them.
[05:07] <IdleOne> Gomez>  /j #ubuntu-it
[05:07] <IdleOne> Drakonia>  holding the C will boot up from the cd
[05:07] <sophtpaw> nickrud: geez, well, if youre dancing at the edge; i'm freefalling over the precipice. This is now all way beyond me. so, looks like i'm fucked
[05:08] <IdleOne> sophtpaw>  looks like you may be in a ajm but not what you said . whatch the language please
[05:08] <nickrud> sophtpaw: if you're in that bad of shape, you have nothing to lose.
[05:08] <IdleOne> ajm=jam
[05:08] <Drakonia> just tried that... doesn't work (I get the ? folder icon because there is a winodws formatted HD in the g4 - i wanted to format that drive and use it on the g4 with a linux distro)
[05:08] <Drakonia> so again... holding c didn't work
[05:08] <balu1> hey guys
[05:08] <balu1> what is the terminal command, to edit xorg.conf
[05:09] <IdleOne> hmmm Drakonia  sorry I dont know more then that
[05:09] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: the question is how badly corrupted is the file - might just be that one entry - try changing to 'installed' and try again
[05:09] <Frogzoo> !tell balu1 about xorg
[05:09] <balu1> ..
[05:09] <balu1> tnx
[05:09] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: how do you mean 'changing' to installed?
[05:10] <balu1> ok, now how do i see a list of drivers that are supplied WITH ubuntu breezy
[05:10] <desousa2> !tell desousa2  about php5
[05:10] <nickrud> sophtpaw: one of the great things about linux is just about everything is a text file, so you could gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status , and fix it 
[05:10] <desousa2> !tell desousa2  about apache
[05:10] <scapor> How can I know the exact memory usage of 1 particular program with a shell command ?
[05:11] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: in /var/lib/dpkg/status, line 1382, change 'inst!lled' to 'installed'
[05:11] <kbrooks> nickrud, not everything is a file
[05:11] <lck1> where can i find make.conf?
[05:11] <balu1> erm isnt there a better editor?
[05:11] <nickrud> kbrooks: I quote 'just about everything'
[05:12] <balu1> text editor* to edit w/
[05:12] <sophtpaw> nickrud: thx, nice idea. this is what happened? :       Failed to run gedit/var/lib/dpkg/status as user root:
[05:12] <sophtpaw>  Child terminated with 1 status
[05:12] <kbrooks> nickrud, you didnt.
[05:12] <kbrooks> gedit <file>
[05:13] <lck1> where can i find make.conf?
[05:13] <sophtpaw> sudo: gedit/var/lib/dpkg/status: command not found
[05:13] <desousa2> lckl whereis make.conf
[05:13] <desousa2> i think :P
[05:13] <Frogzoo>  sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status:
[05:13] <Frogzoo>  sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:13] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: nickrud is write anyfile can be opened as a text file
[05:13] <gnomefreak> right even
[05:14] <nuambenzina> how can I start the script debian-installer from ubuntoo live cd?
[05:14] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, not everything. you cant open fifos in a text file, for example.
[05:14] <tisuang> hello! i deleted kde menu icons. dummie. can someone tell me what I need to reinstall????
[05:15] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo:        : )  i figured it might be that. Already tried that, but the cursor is just flashing and i'm not getting the file?
[05:15] <nuambenzina> how can be ubuntu live cd installed on hdd ?
[05:15] <nuambenzina> can somebody help us ?
[05:15] <nuambenzina> :D
[05:15] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: cat /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:15] <nickrud> sophtpaw: are you in a root terminal? if so, you need to exit that one and run a normal one for gksudo/sudo to work
[05:16] <tisuang> I think it's not possible, nuambenzina
[05:16] <kbrooks> not on breezy, anyway.
[05:16] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: i dont have a fifos file ;)
[05:16] <kbrooks> *maybe* in dapper it will be
[05:16] <desousa2> is there any
[05:17] <gnomefreak> nuambenzina: for dapper you can not for breezy
[05:17] <desousa2> is there any ubuntu # for portugal? :P
[05:17] <warpzone> okay, I'm in the 'adm' and 'sudo' groups, but using 'sudo -i' returns 'Sorry, user warpzone may not run sudo on localhost.'
[05:17] <nuambenzina> it has to be possible
[05:17] <nuambenzina> ;)
[05:17] <warpzone> pardon, 'sudo -l'
[05:17] <gnomefreak> nuambenzina: it hasnt been tested alot so not sure if it works might wait till its released so it can have time for testing
[05:17] <ba> RTFM! everyone
[05:17] <tisuang> i'm from brazil, desousa2
[05:17] <warpzone> do I need to have a line in /etc/sudoers?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> !br
[05:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:17] <kbrooks> ba: language
[05:18] <Jemt> ba: Relax......
[05:18] <desousa2> well i gess br will do it :P
[05:18] <gomti> #join linux
[05:18] <ba> we'll how hard is it to read a book... when i was a n00b to linux i got flamed hard! and you know what, it helped me soooo much more
[05:19] <kbrooks> ba: please.
[05:19] <kbrooks> ba: rtfm is not very helpful here
[05:19] <Xenguy> ba: this channel doesn't really flame
[05:19] <nuambenzina> this channel isn`t helping/suporting his distribution
[05:19] <nuambenzina> well
[05:19] <SilentJ> can someone help me here?
[05:19] <sophtpaw> after trying the sudo gedit /var/etc.... the screen froze again and i had to reboot
[05:20] <SilentJ> I have some problems installing Ubuntu
[05:20] <ba> well i must say your tollerance levels must be high
[05:20] <Xenguy> ba: rather, this is the general guideline...
[05:20] <Xenguy> !coc
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:20] <kbrooks> !coc
[05:20] <SilentJ> I have 2 partitions one Windoze XP sp2 the other Xandros Linux... I tried to install Ubuntu, (wanted to replace Xandros) it goes threw the text and stuff then it stops and I get this crazy multi-colored screen Again. it's completely garbled no text no pictures nothing.. just a bright crazy colors.
[05:20] <SilentJ> 
[05:20] <SilentJ> My computer is ...
[05:20] <SilentJ> Dell 9300 Laptop, 1GB Ram, 100GB HD Centrino, blah blah blah...
[05:20] <SilentJ> I tried "boot: linux vga=771 nopic nolapic" brought me to a text install but when it came to the partition table, I chose to overwrite Xandros, it just turned blue and stayed that way...
[05:20] <kbrooks> !coc
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> Wich drivers should I use if I have a ATI R250 card? (Radeon 9000) ?
[05:20] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: are you sure it's not a disk problem? check in /var/log/messages for warnings
[05:20] <SilentJ> Any ideas?
[05:20] <Xenguy> !tell SilentJ about paste
[05:20] <nickrud> nuambenzina: on breezy, it's not really possible to install from the livecd; the dapper release will
[05:20] <gnomefreak> SilentJ: don not paste in here i thought someone told you that already today
[05:20] <ba> SilentJ, i also have a dell laptop... did you repartition correctly?
[05:21] <SilentJ> umm
[05:21] <SilentJ> well
[05:21] <SilentJ> Ba
[05:21] <GnarusLeo> !tell GnarusLeo about ATI
[05:21] <SilentJ> i dont think so
[05:21] <SilentJ> haha
[05:21] <nickrud> sophtpaw: are you running X, or working from a text console (that would explain no gedit 
[05:21] <tecs> fglrx
[05:21] <warpzone> okay, I'm in the 'adm' and 'sudo' groups, but using 'sudo -l' returns 'Sorry, user warpzone may not run sudo on localhost.' Is there another file I need to edit?
[05:21] <ba> hahaha SilentJ, you have to use a live disk
[05:21] <sophtpaw> nickrud: X of course
[05:21] <ba> lemme find it for you
[05:21] <SilentJ> I deleted the whole thing formated the entire partition and installed win xp and Xandros
[05:21] <SilentJ> I have the live disk
[05:21] <SilentJ> but it dosent work eather
[05:22] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: sudo gedit/var/log/messages    ??
[05:22] <nickrud> sophtpaw: try sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/status it's not as easy an editor, but it works inside a terminal
[05:22] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: just 'less /var/log/messages'
[05:22] <ba> SilentJ, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php get this live disk
[05:22] <mark__> How do you check your MAC address on ubuntu?
[05:22] <ba> mark, ifconfig\
[05:22] <ba> i mean, ifconfig
[05:23] <nickrud> mark__: ifconfig | grep HWaddr
[05:23] <sophtpaw> can ubuto tell me about pastebin again please?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell sophtpaw about pastebin
[05:23] <sophtpaw> ubotu tell sophtpaw about pastebin
[05:23] <sophtpaw> hehe, cool i can tell myself
[05:23] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> !pastebin
[05:23] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:24] <koin> hi
[05:24] <tinus> hey, what package in drake provides /usr/include/GL/gl.h ?
[05:24] <koin> where can i find the meaning of an ls output?
[05:24] <nickrud> tinus: you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for that file, it'll tell you the package name
[05:24] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> ls --help
[05:24] <koin> i tried man ls and info ls with out much success
[05:24] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: you can just pm ubotu directly '/msg ubotu blah'
[05:24] <nuambenzina> how can i change the passwor from live cd ?
[05:25] <xukun> can anybody please tell how I can remove Localization?
[05:25] <sophtpaw> yeah, ubotu, just told me that. got told off too : <
[05:25] <jke> http://pastebin.com/597998 i get this output quite often; nothing fails, its just anoying  :)
[05:25] <benoitc> mmm how can I get the default themes of gnome ?
[05:25] <sophtpaw> hehe
[05:25] <nuambenzina> from the defalut user for getting the root privilges with su
[05:25] <nuambenzina> ?
[05:25] <nuambenzina> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3772.html
[05:25] <nuambenzina> uff
[05:25] <gomti> join #gentoo
[05:25] <gomti> ls
[05:25] <brosken> what is this
[05:25] <koin> i am wondering about the number shown right after the permits and before the name of the owner
[05:26] <SFTR> does anybody know the name of the C man pages package?
[05:26] <SFTR> apt-get install...
[05:26] <Frogzoo> koin: -> man ls
[05:26] <balu1> what is the terminal command that gives me info about openGL onmyc omp
[05:26] <Cyorxamp> How do I change the password for ROOT ?
[05:26] <balu1> cyro, go to system, administration, user& groups
[05:26] <Cyorxamp> yeah been there
[05:27] <Managu> balul: glxinfo?
[05:27] <GnarusLeo> Wich drivers should I use if I have a ATI R250 card? (Radeon 9000) ??? Is laptop the same as a notebook? :)
[05:27] <SFTR> does anybody know the name of the C man pages package?
[05:27] <balu1> cyorxamp: then click show all users
[05:27] <Frogzoo> !info build-essential
[05:27] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[05:27] <koin> -rw-r--r--  1 dani dani        25 2006-03-01 22:39 Unsaved Document 1
[05:27] <tinus> nickrud: but the package does not provide it, even though it says so on the webpage
[05:27] <Cyorxamp> balu1, thanx
[05:27] <koin> what is the meaning of the number "1"?
[05:27] <balu1> cyroxamp:  then u will see root at the very top, click properties: and then in that menu it says "set password by hand" type in what uw ant there
[05:28] <LinuxJones> koin, that's the number of links to the file
[05:28] <SFTR> well ive already done build-essential
[05:28] <SFTR> so
[05:28] <SFTR> where is it in the man?
[05:28] <Frogzoo> SFTR: oh, soz it's late - just a sec
[05:28] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: don't know about this. it just goes on and on and on. This is some of it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10076
[05:28] <koin> LinuxJones:  thanks!!
[05:28] <nickrud> tinus: I apologize, I didn't realize that the file search portion doesn't reference dapper.
[05:29] <tinus> nickrud: ah right ... np :)
[05:29] <LinuxJones> koin, one step at a time :)
[05:29] <balu1> mangau: not sure, isnt there like a grep something something.. it says if my openGL is hardware renderd or mesa rendered
[05:29] <balu1> gnarusleo:  whats wrong w/ ur card??
[05:29] <nickrud> tinus: look into the apt-file program, that will give you the same info locally
[05:29] <koin> koin
[05:30] <GnarusLeo> balu1, I need 3D acceleration
[05:30] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: just wanted to know that you could cat the file without problems - so no disk problem
[05:30] <SFTR> what am i waiting for btw?
[05:30] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo: oh...ok
[05:30] <balu1> gnarusleo: welcome to my boat, i ve beenlookin around for a long time..what laptop do u have? and what game r u trying to play
[05:30] <sophtpaw> i tried the nano thing nickrud suggested that has opened it in the terminal
[05:30] <sophtpaw> just don't know how to get to the files now
[05:31] <jke> balu1: passwd root?
[05:31] <sophtpaw> nickrud: you know how to navigate inside nano?
[05:31] <GnarusLeo> balu1, Im trying to install the glfrx drivers ... have a HP pavilion ZT3000 XWGA
[05:31] <balu1> jke:  wats that??
[05:31] <nickrud> sophtpaw: I just opened it  Hit Ctl-w , and type inst!ll (or whatever the exact error was)
[05:31] <balu1> gnarusleo:  maybe u'll have beter luck than me, i use ur same vid card.. i dno hwo to get opengl rendering either
[05:31] <SFTR> What's the package name for C man pages?
[05:32] <desrt> manpages-dev
[05:32] <nickrud> SFTR: manpages-dev
[05:32] <SFTR> thanks
[05:32] <blanky> !java
[05:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:32] <jke> balu1: changing root password
[05:33] <Frogzoo> SFTR: manpages-dev
[05:33] <jke> balu1: sorry, it wasn't you that asked :P
[05:33] <balu1> jke: u want to chagne your root password?
[05:33] <IdleOne> !tell jke  about root
[05:33] <balu1> jke: oh ;p np, i already helpd that guy out
[05:33] <sophtpaw> oh, by the way, i changed breezy to the edubuntu desktop. Just thought that might have something to do with it all
[05:33] <jke> balu1: yeah, just me that is sloow :)
[05:33] <kaha> GnarusLeo: IIRC, I had to install xorg-fglrx when I had my radeon card, and then run (I believe it was) fglrxconfig. That got me 3D acceleration.
[05:33] <balu1> wats the diff w/ edubuntu?
[05:34] <sophtpaw> forgot about that- kubuntu Dapper might have been a redherring
[05:34] <nickrud> sophtpaw: nah, it's still breezy, just some more packages
[05:34] <balu1> kaha: what card did u have tho? its important if ur card is above 9300
[05:34] <sophtpaw> ok
[05:34] <LinuxJones> Can anyone who has used both thoggen and dvdrip comment on whether dvdrip is much faster than thoggen (which is brutaly slow) ?
[05:34] <GnarusLeo> kaha, ok, thanks!
[05:34] <balu1> kaha : because the same procedures working for 9300+ radeons, dont work for 9200-9000..
[05:34] <sophtpaw>  The greeti.g window is wri4ten using the G^NOME libraries a.d hence
[05:34] <sophtpaw>  looks ,ike a GNOME app,ication- even t/ the extent of 3upporting
[05:34] <sophtpaw>  them%s! By default, 4he greeter is r5n as an unprivi,eged user for
[05:34] <sophtpaw>  3ecurity.
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Packa'e: openoffice.org2-math
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Status: install ok inst!lled
[05:34] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: I would say then it's a certainty that dapper isn't the problem
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Priority: /ptional
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Section: editors
[05:34] <kaha> balul: OH, didn't know that. I had a 9200 Sapphire. So disregard the above, I guess.  :(
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Instal,ed-Size: 1112
[05:34] <sophtpaw> M!intainer: Debia. OpenOffice Tea- <debian-openof&ice@lists.debia..org>
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Architect5re: i386
[05:34] <sophtpaw> Source: openoffice.org2
[05:35] <LinuxJones> sophtpaw, please don't paste in here
[05:35] <balu1> kaha: 9200 sapphire?? whats that ;p .. a radeon?
[05:35] <sophtpaw> sorry mr LinuxJones
[05:35] <LinuxJones> ;)
[05:35] <kaha> balul: yep
[05:35] <nickrud> that is incredibly ugly
[05:35] <Frogzoo> sophtpaw: oh man, that is so messed up...
[05:35] <GnarusLeo> kaha, nothing called fglrxconfig :(
[05:35] <sophtpaw> Frogzoo, should i just jump off a bridge?
[05:35] <balu1> kaha: well its worked a shot i guess.. i'll try it as well.. ive tried every other wiki out there.
[05:36] <gnomefreak> try to get OOo2 on breezy?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> trying*
[05:37] <kaha> GnarusLeo: it might have been "fglrx-conf" or something. I don't remember. What does fglrxTAB get you?
[05:37] <sophtpaw> nickrud: i did Ctl R for read files; enetered 1382 but it doesn't find it?
[05:37] <nickrud> sophtpaw: ctl-w is search
[05:37] <cdromke> i think i'm stupid....
[05:38] <cdromke> my apt doesn't work, on a fresh install
[05:38] <cdromke> like.... 404 errors..
[05:38] <narzy> sure you have the network configured properly?
[05:38] <cdromke> yeah
[05:38] <nickrud> sophtpaw: That is like, so messed up, I can't begin to think of an suggestions (I prefer tall buildings)
[05:38] <LinuxJones> cdromke, sudo apt-get update
[05:39] <cdromke> if i didn't i couldn't connect to the irc
[05:39] <sophtpaw> nickrud: )) yea
[05:39] <lord_zero> hy 2 all
[05:40] <gnomefreak> cdromke: paste your sources.list to pastebin
[05:40] <cdromke> pastebin channel?
[05:40] <balu1> i have pretty much given up on 3d accel on my toshiba
[05:40] <lord_zero> does somebody have a few minutes for me? pls
[05:40] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[05:40] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:41] <sophtpaw> ubotu tell cdromke about pastebin
[05:41] <gnomefreak> lord_zero: ask your questions in the room
[05:41] <lord_zero> i have kubuntu and it doesn't see my network mainnboard
[05:41] <lord_zero> what can i do?
[05:41] <sophtpaw> * a little freaked out
[05:42] <Kikkertje> I, I have a HP 1500 COLOR LASERJET printer, it uses usb conection, but i can't find any drivers for ubuntu :s does someone has a clue?
[05:42] <lord_zero> but ubuntu sees my network mainboard
[05:42] <nickrud> balu1: you could try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba
[05:42] <LinuxJones> lord_zero, do lspci in terminal and find out the make/model of your network card
[05:42] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[05:42] <balu1> nickrud: ill take a look
[05:42] <jean> hi
[05:42] <jean> how do i tell if my setup is using swap?
[05:42] <lord_zero> and where can i found drivers?
[05:42] <lord_zero> for linux?
[05:42] <Chousuke> I wonder if it is possible to somehow integrate Firefox' update utility with Ubuntu's package management.
[05:42] <cdromke> gnomefreak, i have pasted the errors i get firstly... now the sources.list
[05:43] <LinuxJones> lord_zero, if your network card works in gnome it should work in kubuntu
[05:43] <gnomefreak> cdromke: than paste the link to pastebin page in here
[05:43] <lord_zero> i'll try
[05:43] <lord_zero> thanks LinuxJones
[05:43] <LinuxJones> :)
[05:43] <Chousuke> and/or firefox' plugin install utility.
[05:43] <blanky> guys what's the package I use to make debian packages
[05:43] <blanky> dpkgdev?
[05:43] <blanky> or smething
[05:43] <lord_zero> brb, i hope...
[05:43] <lord_zero> bye all
[05:43] <jono> hi all
[05:43] <cdromke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10077
[05:43] <Chousuke> it would be cool if firefox could check if an appropriate plugin is installable via APT before downloading from the web.
[05:43] <jono> how can I find out which are the largest files on the system?
[05:44] <LinuxJones> jono, hiya
[05:44] <jean> shouldnt something in fstab be seen when you type mount like the swap partition for example
[05:44] <Chousuke> and then prompt the user for sudo access to APT etc.
[05:44] <cdromke> is it me being stupid?
[05:44] <jean> how do i tell if my sys is using the swap partition
[05:44] <Jhair> jono: du | sort -n | tail
[05:45] <Kikkertje> I, I have a HP 1500 COLOR LASERJET printer, it uses usb conection, but i can't find any drivers for ubuntu :s does someone has a clue?
[05:45] <Jhair> jono: du -a | sort -n | tail
[05:45] <jono> Jhair is that for the entire filesystem?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> cdromke: we are gonna try something please oepn your sources.list and erase everything and get read to paste a new on in there
[05:46] <LinuxJones> jono, use du -h (for human readable filesizes)
[05:46] <MikeStyle> hi...uhm i just compiled blackbox and i dunno how to start it...also i tried installing fluxbox but it didnt work...can anyone help?
[05:46] <Jhair> jono: run it from / to search the whole filesystem (use it care, if you have nfs or samba partitions)
[05:46] <jean> how do i tell if my sys is using the swap partition
[05:46] <IdleOne> !tell MikeStyle  about fluxbox
[05:46] <nickrud> jean: cat /proc/swaps
[05:46] <IdleOne> !tell MikeStyle  about blackbox
[05:47] <lck1> what's 'cat' mean?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> cdromke: you ready?
[05:47] <cdromke> yeah
[05:47] <jean> nickrud: /dev/hda5                               partition       738948  6384    -1
[05:47] <nickrud> cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[05:47] <jean> nickrud: this is yes?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> cdromke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6932   go to the white part and paste it into your list after deleting your list
[05:47] <lck1> ic
[05:47] <nickrud> jean: there you go, hda5 is your swap and it's in use
[05:47] <gnomefreak> cdromke: save run sudo apt-get update :)
[05:47] <jean> nickrud: why is it hda5 and not hda2 ie
[05:48] <nickrud> jean: that's the partition that was defined as swap. I don't know your disk layout
[05:48] <MikeStyle> idleone..sorry doesnt help
[05:48] <MikeStyle> anyone else?
[05:49] <cdromke> wieeee
[05:49] <jean> does ext3 have limitations? compared to reiser?
[05:49] <cdromke> it works :)
[05:49] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle: on the log-iin screen click sessions than choose what wm you want to log into than log in
[05:49] <cdromke> if you were a woman i would have kissed you gnomefreak :P
[05:49] <hatake_k1kashi> jean: technically, no
[05:49] <gnomefreak> cdromke: ;)
[05:49] <sassenach> hallo. kann mir vielleicht jemand helfen?
[05:50] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, fluxbox shows up and doesnt work, and blackbox doesnt show up at all
[05:50] <gnomefreak> !de
[05:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:50] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle: why compile them instead of uing apt-get
[05:50] <gnomefreak> using*
[05:50] <MOEBIOUS> helloo
[05:50] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak..there is a package in repos for flux and black
[05:50] <MikeStyle> ?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle: yes
[05:51] <gnomefreak> and openbox
[05:51] <IdleOne> xfce4
[05:51] <nickrud> and ion, and, and, and
[05:51] <IdleOne> icewm
[05:51] <MOEBIOUS> IM FROM COLOMBIA
[05:51] <gnomefreak> there are like 20 of them
[05:51] <MOEBIOUS> THIS IS MY FIRST TIME
[05:51] <cdromke> well..
[05:51] <cdromke> firstly.. turn of your caps
[05:51] <IdleOne> !es
[05:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:51] <nickrud> MOEBIOUS: please turn off your caps lock, and welcome!
[05:51] <gnomefreak> MOEBIOUS: lose the caps and try #ubuntu-es if you feel more comfy in spanish
[05:52] <cdromke> lol
[05:52] <cdromke> there are more languages then english for support...
[05:52] <cdromke> gmm
[05:52] <cdromke> hmm..
[05:52] <cdromke> !nl
[05:52] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> lots of them
[05:52] <MikeStyle> thanks gnomefreak
[05:52] <cdromke> LOL
[05:52] <gnomefreak> yw MikeStyle
[05:52] <cdromke> installing kde
[05:52] <MOEBIOUS> NO I CAN WITH THIS
[05:52] <ircleuser> ?
[05:52] <Nwallins|home> what's the best way to get a launcher for a terminal window on a remote host via ssh?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> MOEBIOUS: lose the caps please
[05:53] <cdromke> TURN OFF YOUR CAPS PLEASE
[05:53] <MOEBIOUS> BUT HOWI MAKE IT
[05:53] <cdromke> press the caps lock button?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> MOEBIOUS: the cap locks key on your keyboard
[05:53] <GFDL> ROTFL
[05:53] <MOEBIOUS> AND LATER
[05:53] <Nwallins|home> and then?
[05:53] <MOEBIOUS> ?
[05:53] <thompa> LOL
[05:53] <cdromke> linux sees the difference between caps and normal letters...
[05:53] <cdromke> we too
[05:54] <cdromke> two*
[05:54] <GFDL> great start!
[05:54] <Nwallins|home> so, um, what's the best way to get a launcher for a terminal window on a remote host via ssh?
[05:54] <MOEBIOUS> EU FREAK
[05:54] <IdleOne> troll
[05:54] <GFDL> who
[05:54] <gnomefreak> nalioth: you got a sec for a troll?
[05:54] <milamber> someone have other repositories then nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <nalioth> gnomefreak: are you practicing?
[05:55] <gnomefreak> milamber: nl seems down
[05:55] <napsy> Hi. I have a problem with my digital camera. The 'Import Photos' dialog appers and shows the stored images, but when I try to import them, it says: "The path file:///store_0001_0001/DCIM is not absolute'. Why is this?
[05:55] <milamber> foor multiverse
[05:55] <gnomefreak> nalioth: no for what?
[05:55] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you requested service? who needs it?
[05:55] <cdromke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6932 << gnomefreak pasted this
[05:55] <milamber> yes gnomefreak i sawq it, most of it is up, buth multiverese etc is not reacheable
[05:55] <IdleOne> MOEBIOUS>  needs it
[05:55] <gnomefreak> MOEBIOUS: i think is a troll that doesnt listen
[05:55] <milamber> gnomefreak located in netherlants ?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> milamber: take the nl. out of all the repos in your list
[05:56] <Frogzoo> but MOEBIOUS also might just be having a language difficulty...
[05:56] <nalioth> MOEBIOUS: please join #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-br
[05:56] <cdromke> hmm
[05:56] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: he was given it 3 times
[05:56] <MOEBIOUS> ehh yes
[05:56] <MOEBIOUS> maybe
[05:56] <Frogzoo> yes, MOEBIOUS can be taught!
[05:57] <gnomefreak> MOEBIOUS: type /j #ubuntu-es
[05:57] <MOEBIOUS> the fact of beein hispanohablante
[05:57] <MOEBIOUS> doesnt mean i cannot do it here
[05:57] <MOEBIOUS> be trusted
[05:57] <gnomefreak> the caps are finnaly gone
[05:57] <nickrud> ah, I can see again, thanks MOEBIOUS 
[05:57] <joeljkp> where do we get the public key to verify the CD downloads?
[05:57] <nalioth> MOEBIOUS: por favor, vaya de #ubuntu-es (por espaol) o #ubuntu-br (por portugues)
[05:58] <nalioth> joeljkp: there are md5sums on the download page
[05:58] <joeljkp> nalioth: yeah, but there's a gpg sig to verify the md5sums file
[05:58] <MOEBIOUS> thanksss
[05:58] <MOEBIOUS> for beeing helpers on t cause
[05:58] <Klohunt> For some reason I dont believe I am getting accelerated graphics support with my Nvidia 7800 GTX
[05:59] <Jimmey__> How much is Dapper going to change from the flight5 I'm downloading now?
[05:59] <nickrud> Klohunt: you can test with glxinfo | grep direct , it should say yes if it's working
[05:59] <narzy> Flight5 is ALPHA, it might change considerably
[05:59] <Frogzoo> Jimmey__: about 5 weeks of work's worth :D
[05:59] <Jimmey__> It's looking good though
[05:59] <Klohunt> hmm it says yes
[05:59] <Jimmey__> And I've heard it's very good performance wise...All's looking well
[05:59] <Klohunt> nickrud: thanks
[06:00] <narzy> Frogzoo, there was some rublings about a Dapper Delay
[06:00] <narzy> read about it on /. this morning
[06:00] <Frogzoo> NOoooo.....
[06:00] <MOEBIOUS> how can i goo
[06:00] <cdromke> /quit
[06:00] <IdleOne> cdromke>  that is not helping
[06:01] <IdleOne> MOEBIOUS>  /j #ubuntu-es
[06:01] <cdromke> he asks... how can i go
[06:01] <cdromke> i tell him how he can go
[06:01] <IdleOne> cdromke>  when you came in asking for help you didnt get a response like that..pay it forward please :)
[06:01] <kleinerwilly> sorry, new here, do I have to register my nick anywhere?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> cdromke: he wants to go to another channel not leave
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kleinerwilly about register
[06:02] <Klohunt> How can I make the FireFox icon on my desktop smaller?
[06:02] <IdleOne> kleinerwilly>  /msg nickserv help
[06:02] <milamber> thnx again gnomefreak:D u've helped me again, btw it seems slower then the .nl rep
[06:02] <cdromke> milamber, het scheelt niet alles
[06:02] <IdleOne> Klohunt>  right click propertires
[06:02] <nickrud> Klohunt: right click the icon, choose stretch icon
[06:02] <gnomefreak> milamber: it might be because it might not be close to you
[06:03] <St_Iron> hello
[06:03] <Frogzoo> narzy: 6 weeks would push release to early june
[06:03] <cdromke> ik haal hier 321 kB/s ipv. de 350 normaal
[06:03] <milamber> who knows gnomefreak who knows
[06:03] <Daza> Good afternoon! like I woud fax server in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <servjew> hi, is viewing images possible without x on a server install ?
[06:03] <nickrud> Daza: efax-gtk , & hylafax. efax is easier, hylafax is more powerful but hard to set up
[06:03] <cdromke> nope servjew
[06:03] <General_Error> anyone have any help on installin gaim beta lol
[06:04] <cdromke> afaik you need x
[06:04] <milamber> @cdromke i don't think it is polite to other to talk duch in the main room,
[06:04] <Engla> servjew: you can use a framebuffer viewer
[06:04] <gomti3> ls
[06:04] <cdromke> hmm
[06:04] <cdromke> you're right :P
[06:04] <cdromke> but dutch was easier...
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[06:04] <Engla> servjew: I've forgotten teh name, and when I tried it the colors were a bit off, but search for "framebuffer image viewer" or somesuch
[06:05] <gnomefreak> General_Error: you have to compile it i would run sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall than run sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[06:05] <nickrud> cdromke: /quit, then /join #ubuntu-nl ;)
[06:05] <jke> How do i install framebuffer for my tty's? i have searched the forum, but there soes not seem to come anythin usefyl up
[06:05] <gnomefreak> General_Error: than download tar and get to work :)
[06:05] <servjew> framebuffer is the display system already active on a server install, right ?
[06:05] <revartj> hello
[06:05] <Engla> should be, although I know -> 0 about htis
[06:06] <revartj> somebody could tell me, how I configure de vnc.conf
[06:06] <servjew> ok :) ill check it out better than nothing, and i dont mind if the images are a little screwy :)
[06:06] <milamber> @ cdromke i understand, my english is alsno not that great and  nice to see/read/hear, prefer other languages buth well it goes
[06:06] <servjew> thanks
[06:06] <cdromke> yeah ok..
[06:06] <jke> servjew: dont know, newer made an server install :)
[06:06] <cdromke> brb
[06:06] <balu1> how do i check what version of xfree i have instaleld
[06:06] <Daza> Nickrud: I do how download this?
[06:06] <nickrud> balu1: xdpyinfo | head
[06:06] <balu1> tnx
[06:06] <Frogzoo> balu1: check /var/log/xorg.log
[06:06] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy balu1
[06:07] <nickrud> Daza: it's in the repositories; if apt-cache policy efax-gtk does not have a 'Candidate', you'll need to enable some more repos
[06:08] <revartj> help, please
[06:08] <aeolist> hi all
[06:08] <milamber> bogger, no sound in frozen bubble, my favourite time killing game
[06:09] <gnomefreak> revartj: what do you need help with?
[06:09] <revartj> about vnc
[06:10] <revartj> how i could configure vnc.conf
[06:10] <gnomefreak> revartj: if you tell us what the problem is than we might beable to help
[06:10] <aeolist> can i make nautilus display files like windows "list"? that is, having files and folders displayed in a list, with no extra details, scrolling to the sides, not up and down
[06:10] <blanky> !automatix
[06:10] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:10] <blanky> !libdvdcss
[06:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:10] <Frogzoo> revartj: -> man vnc.conf
[06:10] <balu1> how can i tell if agpgart support is active?
[06:10] <balu1> i need to inactivate it
[06:10] <revartj> xd
[06:11] <Engla> aeolist: I'm pretty sure that you cannot do this in nautilus
[06:11] <General_Error> gnomefreak, thanks :), doing it now, sorry for late reply lol
[06:11] <aeolist> Engla, what about other file managers like konqueror and midnight commander?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> General_Error: its fine
[06:12] <LinuxJones> balay, lsmod | grep agpgard to see if it's loaded
[06:12] <Engla> aeolist: I have no idea about that. One could guess that konqueror has more options
[06:12] <aeolist> thanks Engla
[06:13] <Daza> I not use my modem fax motorola v92!
[06:14] <gnomefreak> later everyone
[06:14] <alextsr> hello boys and girls, can some1 help a poor little guy? :) lately I noticed that something is eating up my cpu especially when launching an image viewer or using a torrent client or such. I've noticed this on both gnome and kde. Here's what top shows ie : "Cpu(s):  2.3% us,  0.7% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 96.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si" any ideas?
[06:14] <Cyorxamp> how do you install a .deb files?
[06:14] <Cyorxamp> !deb
[06:14] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[06:15] <St_Iron> !repos
[06:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:16] <St_Iron> !easysource
[06:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:16] <Daza> I NOT USE MY MODEM MOTOROLA V92!
[06:16] <Magnamundian> How do you change the GRUB menu?
[06:16] <LinuxJones> Daza, why do we care about that ?
[06:17] <jbroome> Daza: i have no idea WTF you are talking about
[06:17] <aeolist> Magnamundian, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:18] <Nogimics> How can I edit the login message you get when you SSH into ubuntu? also how I can reprint it without loggging back in please?
[06:18] <dradul> Daza, please go to the channel #ubuntu-br
[06:19] <jmoncayo> monger: hey buddy
[06:19] <monger> jmoncayo: hey
[06:19] <jke> and nobody knows how to install framebuffer? all i wan't is to run links2 -g in my tty's :8
[06:20] <jke> and get a better resulotion
[06:20] <alextsr> Hello boys and girls, lately I've noticed that sthing is eating up my cpu, especially when launching an image viewer, a bittorrent client or such. Here's an example top output: Cpu(s):  2.3% us,  0.7% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 96.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si. Any ideas? (ubuntu 5.10/linux-2.6.12-10-k7)
[06:20] <blanky> success once more, LIBDVDCSS!
[06:21] <eFfeM-log> hi, i  just installed dapper drake flight 5 coming from FC4 and I have an oddity with my mouse that I don't know how to fix. If I am in firefox and I scroll quickly instead of scrolling down it moves me in my history (scroll up moves back, scroll down forwrd). This is very irritating. Is there a way to change this?
[06:21] <__mikem> alextsr what thing?
[06:21] <MikeStyleNet> uhm my fluxbox still isnt working :(
[06:21] <alextsr> __mikem: what what thing?
[06:21] <MikeStyleNet> well i can get into it but when i right click to access apps nothing shows
[06:21] <jbroome> alextsr: your paste really doesn't give much info.
[06:21] <__mikem> you just said a "thing" was eating up your cpu, I am trying to inquire as to what you are talking about so I can help you
[06:22] <alextsr> __mikem: well this is what I'm trying to figure out :)
[06:22] <__mikem> namely?
[06:22] <jmoncayo> monger: where you helpping me with the router stuff??
[06:22] <Daza> tHANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON!
[06:23] <alextsr> jbroome: the processes are not using much cpu so I only pasted this to show the high % in wa
[06:23] <monger> jmoncayo: I don't remember that, but if you have a question i might be able to answer it
[06:23] <jmoncayo> i have aquestion, when my ubuntu linux starts it gives me two errors, it says couldnt find and load a module for the fan and other stuff like that
[06:24] <blanky> !mp3
[06:24] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:24] <balu1> anyone usd the ati proprietry drivers?
[06:24] <Nogimics> How can I edit the login message you get when you SSH into ubuntu? also how I can reprint it without loggging back in please?
[06:24] <jmoncayo> monger: i have two errors when trying to load the fan module and the thermal can i fix it
[06:25] <LinuxJones> jmoncayo, your using the Hoary release ?
[06:25] <monger> jmoncayo: just put the modules on the blacklist
[06:25] <nico8481> Nogimics, vi /etc/motd ?
[06:25] <monger> jmoncayo: than they won't be loaded and won't cause any errors
[06:26] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:26] <Nogimics> nico8481 Thanks
[06:26] <Shed> Can I logout and restart X by terminal, anyone?
[06:26] <nico8481> np
[06:26] <alextsr> anyone knows what is "wa" in tops' output?
[06:27] <monger> Shed: how do you mean that exactly as in your in a terminal and your x is dead?
[06:27] <Nogimics> Can the motd be re-printed to the screen without logging back in?
[06:27] <madmancanuck> Shed: are you looking just to basically stop x and restart it?
[06:27] <aridese> what's a good video editing tool for linux?
[06:27] <Shed> I want to write a script that restarts my X session with a different xorg.conf
[06:27] <nickrud> Shed: use sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop ; that stops your current X, and startx from a terminal (you may need an ~/.xsession file)
[06:27] <LinuxJones> Shed, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:27] <jbroome> Nogimics: cat /etc/motd
[06:27] <LinuxJones> aridese, there aren't many right at the moment
[06:27] <__mikem> Anyone want to see something truely horific
[06:27] <jmoncayo> monger: but it says error trying to load those modules the files ..../fan.ko couldnt be found?? what should i do
[06:27] <jind> aridese: I know there is this program called kino. If it's any good I however don't know
[06:28] <LinuxJones> aridese, in fact there are none
[06:28] <LinuxJones> :(
[06:28] <__mikem> Anyone want to see something truely horific
[06:28] <Nogimics> Thanks :) does can print a file to screen then?
[06:28] <Nogimics> cat*
[06:28] <jbroome> Nogimics: screen
[06:28] <Nogimics> why did cat work then?
[06:28] <Shed> Thanks nickrud, LinuxJones, I'll try that.
[06:28] <monger> jmoncayo: do you have that problem during install?
[06:29] <jmoncayo> i think so, but i dont really remember
[06:30] <ice60> is it possible to modify and recompile the Ubuntu livecd with 3GB of free space and 640MB RAM?
[06:30] <confrey> anybody using ddict? I can't work with it
[06:30] <aridese> LinuxJones, any alternatives?
[06:30] <jmoncayo> monger: i think so, but i dont really remember
[06:31] <eFfeM> anyone an idea on this ?? i  just installed dapper drake flight 5 coming from FC4 and I have an oddity with my mouse that I don't know how to fix. If I am in firefox and I scroll quickly instead of scrolling down it moves me in my history (scroll up moves back, scroll down forwrd). This is very irritating. Is there a way to change this?
[06:31] <LinuxJones> aridese, there is mainactor for linux but I don't know how stable it is. They have a demo downloadable from www.mainconcepts.com
[06:31] <aridese> LinuxJones, ah, thanks
[06:31] <confrey> and how can I reduce fonts' size of QT application?
[06:32] <ice60> aridese: here are some mp3 about it http://www.twatech.org/eps/twat070.mp3 http://www.twatech.org/eps/twat072.mp3
[06:32] <aridese> ice60, thanks :D
[06:32] <LinuxJones> aridese, >> http://www.mainconcept.com/mainactor_v5_linux.shtml
[06:33] <alextsr> can someone explain this: http://pastebin.com/598120 ? any ideas what could be causing it? (all processes with low cpu usage and a high wa%)
[06:33] <fade_> hello
[06:33] <tomcatt> hi
[06:33] <fade_> im in trouble
[06:34] <ice60> aridese: np here's the home page http://twatech.org/index.php
[06:34] <fade_> liitle
[06:34] <fade_> !gaim
[06:34] <ubotu> hmm... gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[06:34] <jmoncayo> hey i have a problem when linux starts, it says can load fan module, the file fan.ko couldnt be found
[06:35] <fade_> in gaim howto i have read only about creating account... but if I already have one?
[06:35] <LinuxJones> jmoncayo, type cat /etc/issue and see what version of Ubuntu you're running (If it's Hoary you can ignore the messages)
[06:36] <blanky> !mountwindows
[06:36] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:36] <|mp|> where/how do you set file associations / app preferences in gnome?
[06:36] <nickrud> |mp|: right click an appropriate file, select properties, and the tab open with
[06:37] <fade_> yeah
[06:37] <jmoncayo> somebody have any idea on how can i fix it???????
[06:37] <LinuxJones> |mp|, right click te file and open with, then click the checkbox do this every time or whatever.
[06:37] <bk> does anybody know when the next release of Ubuntu is going to be?
[06:37] <lastent> does any of u have experience mounting second hard drives??
[06:37] <mohkohn> Hi does anybody here know how to get captive ntfs going on ubuntu
[06:37] <mohkohn> ?
[06:38] <LinuxJones> bk, June by the sounds of it
[06:38] <roger> Hello
[06:38] <bk> cool.
[06:38] <Antwarrior> does anyone know how to download the gnome source for Ubuntu from the ubuntu src repos,can't work it from synaptic ,and apt-get build-dep is giving error
[06:38] <fade_> mohkohn, you have mounted it?
[06:38] <mohkohn> Do you need to install something?
[06:38] <roger> I just dragged a folder from my samba server to my newly installed ubuntu desktop, and the folder disappeared. Where did it go?
[06:38] <|mp|> nickrud - ok, but hat about a DVD, for instance?
[06:38] <lastent> fade_ can u help me mounting a drive
[06:39] <lastent> fade_ ive already tried by myself
[06:39] <lastent> fade_ but i couldnt
[06:39] <Antwarrior> fade_ : mount -t fs /dev/hdX /media/hdaX
[06:39] <roger> anyone?
[06:39] <fade_> lastent, all i know - man mount. sorry
[06:39] <revartj> lastent
[06:39] <Makura> Anyone savvy with video drivers etc?  I don't think I have my 3d drivers installed correctly.
[06:39] <revartj> that you want mount
[06:39] <lastent> revartj tell me
[06:39] <nickrud> |mp|: System  Preferences  Removable Drives & Media
[06:39] <fade_> Antwarrior, i've mounted it, but i couldn't read.
[06:39] <Antwarrior> fade_:  what are you trying to mount ?
[06:40] <|mp|> ah
[06:40] <revartj> what ????
[06:40] <lastent> revartj im trying to mount the master drive
[06:40] <fade_> Antwarrior, ntfs drive. mounted. not readable (((
[06:40] <Antwarrior> fade_ : are you sure its mounted ?
[06:40] <lastent> revartj ive installed ubuntu on the slave drive
[06:40] <revartj> what is format???
[06:40] <fade_> yes
[06:40] <revartj> ntfs, fat???
[06:40] <HymnToLife> !tell fade_ about ntfs
[06:40] <jmoncayo>  can somebody tell if the apache webserver shows up in this url http://200.107.53.32
[06:40] <lastent> revartj ntfs
[06:40] <deluxe> i usually use gentoo but decided to try out ubuntu for the week well ive finished installing ubuntu breezy 5.10 on my msi 1029 laptop but i only have sound through the headphone jack i know what card and everything i need from gentoo but it seems like a i need a newer version of alsa that fixed the problem
[06:41] <glezizdo> hola
[06:41] <lastent> jmoncayo excuse me where are u from?
[06:41] <glezizdo> spain
[06:41] <glezizdo> hello
[06:41] <fade_> it says me, i have not enough access
[06:41] <jmoncayo> lastent: ecuador why?
[06:41] <revartj> ntfs only can be mounted fo read
[06:41] <lastent> jmoncayo my grandma is moncayo too
[06:41] <deluxe> how do i get a version of alsa that is 1.0.1 or newer
[06:41] <jbroome> jmoncayo: no webserver at that address
[06:41] <nickrud> jmoncayo: seems to be timing out on the connect
[06:41] <lastent> revartj yes i know
[06:41] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  if you have mounted it should read
[06:41] <HymnToLife> jmoncayo> connection timeout
[06:41] <jmoncayo> lastent: thats cool
[06:41] <lastent> revartj but i want to mount it anyway
[06:41] <Antwarrior> fade_ : what command did you use to mount ?
[06:41] <revartj> but download captive-ntfs
[06:42] <HymnToLife> Antwarrior> not with the defaults parameters
[06:42] <jmoncayo> would it be for a firewall blocking 80 connection??
[06:42] <lastent> revartj where?
[06:42] <HymnToLife> (It's readable only as root with those)
[06:42] <revartj> wait
[06:42] <fade_> Antwarrior, it mounted automatically
[06:42] <lastent> revartj ok thanks
[06:42] <lastent> jmoncayo but we are from PEru
[06:42] <biloyp> is it possible to make a .bin file into a package for install or how to I install a .bin file
[06:42] <fade_> i need to remount?
[06:43] <lastent> jmoncayo eres familia del general moncayo?
[06:43] <Antwarrior> fade_ : have you tried  to read from your root account ?
[06:43] <HymnToLife> !es
[06:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:43] <jmoncayo> lastent: es primo de mi papa
[06:43] <fade_> how? sudo *****
[06:43] <revartj> lastent ---> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[06:43] <lastent> revartj thanks ill try
[06:43] <HymnToLife> fade_> sudo ls /path/to/drive
[06:43] <MOEBIOUS> how can i play mp3
[06:43] <SpookyET> ls -l
[06:43] <MOEBIOUS>  y t ubuntu player
[06:44] <fade_> HymnToLife, i'll try now...
[06:44] <Antwarrior> fade_ : sudo ls /media/whereyoumounted
[06:44] <HymnToLife> !tell MOEBIOUS about mp3
[06:44] <biloyp> how do I install a .bin app
[06:44] <biloyp> do i do a "make" command
[06:44] <HymnToLife> biloyp> what app is it ?
[06:44] <MOEBIOUS> please
[06:44] <giggsey> I'm trying to add a network windows printer (Epson CX5200) - I've selected SMB, the computer name, and the share, gone to next, and can't find the CX5200 on the epson list
[06:44] <biloyp> y4mscaler
[06:45] <Antwarrior> biloyp : go to your shell
[06:45] <biloyp> there
[06:45] <Antwarrior> biloyp : type chmod 755 nameoffile.bin
[06:45] <lastent> revartj im new in linux, can u tell me what version to download?
[06:45] <biloyp> ahh k
[06:45] <Antwarrior> biloyp : then type ./nameoffile.bin
[06:45] <MOEBIOUS> to play mp3
[06:45] <revartj> lasten, tar.gz
[06:46] <fade_> Antwarrior, ahh, there access 500. how to change?
[06:46] <biloyp> thx a bunch
[06:46] <Antwarrior> fade_ : use the chmod cmd
[06:46] <MOEBIOUS> HymnToLifE
[06:46] <MOEBIOUS> how i can do it
[06:46] <Antwarrior> fade_ : like this chmod XXX file
[06:46] <revartj> lasten, when you will have mount, put  --> mount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hdax /mnt/disco
[06:46] <nickrud> MOEBIOUS: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has instructions for that
[06:47] <HymnToLife> everything is explained in the link MOEBIOUS
[06:47] <Henry_Bean> hi, anybody has a deb package for mac-port codecs?
[06:47] <MOEBIOUS> THANKS
[06:47] <fade_> Antwarrior, file = dir?
[06:47] <w32> hey I'm having some trouble with my wireless card on my Laptop its and integrated intel wireless card on a Gateway M275 (convertible tablet) Its there and active and the wep key is right but i get like 81% packet loss when i try to ping the the ap which is also the gateway and dns- i get some of the headers from web pages or when I try to go into the management interface of the ap but it never displays and eventually the connection t
[06:47] <MOEBIOUS> the truth is that this modification is essencial for my final change
[06:47] <MOEBIOUS> to ubuntu from xp
[06:47] <lastent> revartj ok
[06:48] <fade_> ahh, man chmod
[06:48] <Antwarrior> fade_ : yep , chmod 755 dir
[06:48] <rukuartic> fade_: If you want to do a dir, you probably want to change all the files in it too. if you use chmod -R XXX ./directory, it'll change the perms of every file in the directory
[06:48] <lastent> revartj can i talku in privaate?
[06:48] <Antwarrior> fade_ : gives everyone read access and r/w to supervisor
[06:48] <Antwarrior> fade_ : sorry like this : sudo chmod 755 dir
[06:48] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: Not unless he owns the files himself...
[06:49] <revartj> yes
[06:49] <Antwarrior> rukuartic: it's a directory mounted by root
[06:49] <rukuartic> Hey balu1... didja get yer problem fixed? (What was it again? :P)
[06:49] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: Ay.
[06:49] <Antwarrior> rukuartic : sorry
[06:49] <MOEBIOUS> i have a live version of my ubuntu
[06:49] <balu1> rukuartic: nope, , failed miserably :/ it was enabling OPENGL on a mobility radeon 9000 igp..
[06:49] <Antwarrior> rukuartic : i didnt mean to sound rude
[06:50] <MOEBIOUS> but seriously
[06:50] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: You didn't O_o XD
[06:50] <fade_> Antwarrior, it's read-only; 700 instead 755?
[06:50] <balu1> rukuartic: now im trying to figureout how i can restore the origna video drivers i got w/ ubuntu
[06:50] <MOEBIOUS> im gonna install it
[06:50] <w32> i'm using hoary on the laptop- breezy locks up no matter what- haven't tried dapper with it yet
[06:50] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: Is it a ntfs mount or something?
[06:50] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  just set it to 755 , if you want other users to read not just root
[06:50] <Antwarrior> rukuartic: yep ... i think it is an ntfs fs
[06:50] <] BreliC[> does anyone have 2.6.14 or 2.6.15 running on breezy?
[06:50] <fade_> Antwarrior, `/media/sda6': Read-only file system
[06:51] <rukuartic> fade_: Can you see/access the file? Or are you trying to write to it?
[06:51] <rukuartic> fade_: If its an ntfs file system, you can't write to it.
[06:51] <balu1> if anyoen knwos how to restore original ubuntu vid drivers,, let me know
[06:51] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  you can't write to ntfs ,just as rukuartic has just said
[06:51] <m4steR> hi all
[06:51] <fade_> rukuartic, i know, i just try to set normal access
[06:51] <Morfosomo> whats the command to get a listing of active precesses again?
[06:51] <] BreliC[> or is it a bad idea to try and compile 2.6.14/2.6.15 for Breezy?
[06:51] <lck1> ps x
[06:51] <Antwarrior> Morfosomo : ps
[06:51] <fade_> Antwarrior, so now all users can read this drive?
[06:52] <lck1> or ps aux
[06:52] <] BreliC[> i think i need it for my WinTV PVR150
[06:52] <Morfosomo> cheeras
[06:52] <m4steR> i can't write audio cd because serpentine and k3b say: unsupported format
[06:52] <JayR> hi
[06:52] <HymnToLife> m4steR> from mp3 ?
[06:52] <Antwarrior> fade_ ; well if  set perms are  755  for your directories
[06:52] <rukuartic> Morfosomo: ps x/ps aux
[06:52] <JayR> I just installed ubuntu
[06:52] <Antwarrior> then they should be able to
[06:52] <] BreliC[> my tuner model is not recognized even though the IVTV drivers have compiled and are otherwise fine
[06:52] <rukuartic> JayR: W00t! Welcome to th' community
[06:52] <fade_> Antwarrior, thanks for all! ))
[06:52] <Scorchsaber> Hey, uh... I've been having problems with Nvidia. A while ago I got Ubuntu, and I had just gotten a nice aTI card to replace Nvidia. Unfortunately, ATI has minimal support for Linux. So today I replaced it with my old GeForce 5200 FX. I had downloaded the drivers, and when I restarted the computer with the card in it, my computer wouldn't start the X server (or whatever. I'm new...). It sent me into command line, so I entered in the config comma
[06:52] <JayR> im using kernel 2.6.8-12
[06:52] <JayR> but I have a problem
[06:52] <Antwarrior> fade_ : np
[06:53] <rukuartic> !tell JayR about enter
[06:53] <m4steR> yes HymnToLife
[06:53] <m4steR> from mp3
[06:53] <firstent> revartj are u getting my messages?
[06:53] <MOEBIOUS> what kinds of audio formats play ubuntu
[06:53] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, modprobe nvidia then restart x if it works add nvidia to /etc/modules
[06:53] <JayR> ubuntu freezes randomly in gnome or KDE
[06:53] <Antwarrior> does any one know how to download ubuntu packages as a src package for compiltation , pls
[06:53] <fade_> Antwarrior, no, i can't read... maybe mount -a?
[06:53] <Scorchsaber> err, what?
[06:53] <HymnToLife> m4steR> you need to install a plugin for k3b to read mp3
[06:53] <w32> !wireless
[06:53] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:53] <revartj> si
[06:53] <HymnToLife> search for it in synaptic
[06:53] <Henry_Bean> hi, anybody has a deb package for mac-port codecs?
[06:53] <JayR> anybody here can help me?
[06:54] <Antwarrior> fade_ : okay ,let's start from the beginning ,  i guess.
[06:54] <m4steR> HymnToLife, can you tell me the name ?
[06:54] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[06:54] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:54] <rukuartic> JayR: Ya kind of need to give us some more symptoms, we have no clue whats causing the problems. Check your kernel logs
[06:54] <fade_> Antwarrior, ok
[06:54] <Antwarrior> fade_ : do you just want to copy files from the ntfs
[06:54] <firstent> revartj hablas espaol?
[06:54] <kudeta> i have 2 questions :) 1) is drapper good now? or wait a while before trying. 2) which version of gcc does breezy come with (how can i tell) (good for my newwwb knowledge)
[06:54] <HymnToLife> m4steR> something like k3b-plugin-mp3
[06:54] <fade_> Antwarrior, of course
[06:54] <Scorchsaber> what do you mean "modprobe"?
[06:54] <HymnToLife> search for it in synaptic
[06:54] <Antwarrior> fade_ : which account are you logged in as ?
[06:54] <JayR> were can I find the kernel logs?
[06:54] <rukuartic> !logs
[06:54] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic
[06:54] <fade_> Antwarrior, first, e.g. root
[06:54] <rukuartic> !kernel logs
[06:54] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic
[06:54] <Antwarrior> fade : are using the gui or the shell ?
[06:55] <m4steR> HymnToLife, thanks a lot ;)
[06:55] <fade_> Antwarrior, gui
[06:55] <fade_> gnome
[06:55] <kudeta> what version of GCC does ubuntu have?
[06:55] <kudeta> 3.x?
[06:55] <HymnToLife> m4steR> you're welcome :)
[06:55] <kudeta> or 2.x?
[06:55] <Antwarrior> fade_ : are you sure you are logged in as root and not a regular user ?
[06:55] <MOEBIOUS> hymtolife please help me with it
[06:55] <JayR> were can I find the kernel logs?
[06:55] <fade_> Antwarrior, so sudo is working...
[06:55] <firstent> revartj hablas espaol?
[06:55] <HymnToLife> MOEBIOUS> what's the problem ?
[06:55] <ankka> does anybody use netwmpager? I can't get it to be lower than other windows, it always is on top of them, which is annoying when watchin videos full-screen
[06:55] <HymnToLife> !es
[06:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:55] <deluxe> how do i get a version of alsa that is 1.0.1 or newer
[06:55] <kudeta> ??
[06:55] <fade_> Antwarrior, root of course
[06:56] <rukuartic> JayR: Actually, might be better to check your GUI's logs...
[06:56] <Troll> how do i know which version of ubuntu is best for my pc ?
[06:56] <rukuartic> Anyone know where you can find GDM's log?
[06:56] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, modprobe is a connand to load the nvidia module into the running kernel so do sudo modprobe nvidia if that loads correctly do /etc/init.d/gdm restart and your x whould come up as normal
[06:56] <JayR> where can I find GDM and KDE's log?
[06:56] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  okay , fire up a shell , type the mount command like you did before if it is not already mounted, then go to your /media directory and type :
[06:56] <nickrud> rukuartic: /var/log
[06:56] <Antwarrior> ls - l /media
[06:56] <Henry_Bean> hello, how to decode ape files?
[06:56] <Antwarrior> and tell me what perms the mounted directory has
[06:56] <Scorchsaber> okay. I'll ckeck back to you after I try it
[06:57] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, I am the best typer of all time BTW :)
[06:57] <HymnToLife> hm
[06:57] <HymnToLife> !ape
[06:57] <ubotu> HymnToLife: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:57] <firstent> revartj are u there
[06:57] <fade_> Antwarrior, all ntfs partitions are marked as root
[06:57] <firstent> revartj are u there?
[06:57] <firstent> revartj do u speak spanish?
[06:57] <revartj> sip
[06:57] <Troll> how do i know which version of ubuntu is best for my pc ?
[06:57] <MOEBIOUS> hola firstent
[06:58] <Scorchsaber> what am I supposed to see after modprobe?
[06:58] <LinuxJones> Troll, that would be the stable release
[06:58] <Antwarrior> Antwarrior : okay , but i need you to tell me what the numbers say
[06:58] <rukuartic> JayR: Look in /var/logs/gdm -- see if you can find information there
[06:58] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, nothing errors would be bad
[06:58] <Scorchsaber> Ok. Good
[06:58] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, did it go ok ?
[06:58] <Antwarrior> Antwarrior  : mine looks like this
[06:58] <Antwarrior> dr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 2048 2003-07-18 23:26 cdrom0
[06:58] <fade_> Antwarrior, sda1, sda5, sda6
[06:58] <JayR> ok ill try that
[06:58] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, now do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:58] <firstent> MOEBIOUS hola
[06:58] <Antwarrior> fade_ : okay we are getting somewhere, you forget to put -l
[06:58] <Scorchsaber> ok
[06:58] <fade_> dr-x------
[06:59] <Antwarrior> fade_ : ls -l , not ls
[06:59] <fade_> Antwarrior, ls -l
[06:59] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  and paste that
[06:59] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root  8192 2006-03-12 14:56 sda1
[06:59] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root  4096 2006-03-11 13:01 sda5
[06:59] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root 16384 2006-03-12 17:23 sda6
[06:59] <Antwarrior> okay
[06:59] <firstent> revartj me puedes decir como instalar ese programa que me he bajado?
[06:59] <Antwarrior> fade_ : now type , sudo chmod 755 *
[06:59] <fade_> ok
[06:59] <Antwarrior> fade_ : and paste the contents again
[07:00] <fade_> `/media/sda6': Read-only file system
[07:00] <revartj> firstent --> tar zxvf arvhio que te has bajado
[07:00] <Antwarrior> fade_ : now type , sudo chmod 755 *
[07:00] <Antwarrior> fade_ : and paste the contents again
[07:01] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root  8192 2006-03-12 14:56 sda1
[07:01] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root  4096 2006-03-11 13:01 sda5
[07:01] <fade_> dr-x------  1 root root 16384 2006-03-12 17:23 sda6
[07:01] <_epp> whats a giu for samba that works well?
[07:01] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, your gnome up and runing now ?
[07:01] <rukuartic> fade_: are you in /dev or /mnt or /media?
[07:01] <Scorchsaber> nope
[07:01] <firstent> revartj me he bajado captive-static-1.1.7
[07:01] <zth> this is weird, i've got 3D accel but no OpenGL Direct Rendering support
[07:01] <Scorchsaber> it's restarted, but it's holding at "checking battery state"
[07:01] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  where your ntfs is mounted
[07:01] <fade_> /media
[07:01] <tritium> !es
[07:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:01] <firstent> revartj que hago con eso
[07:01] <deluxe> can somebody please help me upgrade alsa to a newer  version that supports my card fully
[07:01] <Antwarrior> fade_ : it should be media on Ubuntu systems, could be mnt though
[07:02] <fade_> /media
[07:02] <revartj> habres una consola
[07:02] <revartj> y lo pones
[07:02] <firstent> listo
[07:02] <firstent> como
[07:02] <Antwarrior> fade_ : okay , now i need you to type chmod 755 *
[07:02] <Seveas> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:02] <Antwarrior> fade_ : sorry , sudo chmod 755 *
[07:02] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, you installed the ubuntu version of the nvidia driver correct ?
[07:02] <Antwarrior> fade_ : and paste after the command
[07:02] <Scorchsaber> yes
[07:02] <revartj> entras en el directorio donde tengas bajado el captve-ntfs
[07:02] <MOEBIOUS> UBOTU
[07:02] <firstent> ok
[07:03] <Coocks> what is the difference between the amd64 ubuntu, i386 ubuntu and power pc ubuntu ?
[07:03] <fade_> Antwarrior, 'readonly file system', thats all
[07:03] <firstent> revartj primero lo extraigo y luego entro en el directorio
[07:03] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, did you edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make the necessary changes like adding the nvidia driver to use as the video card driver ?
[07:03] <rukuartic> Seveas: You know what we need to do? Get old people whove never used computers before and get them to tell us how they think computers should work.
[07:03] <firstent> revartj listo ya lo hice
[07:03] <fade_> 755 - access with writing, right?
[07:03] <Antwarrior> fade_ : that's not right , fade_ , did you follow my instructs EXACTLY ?
[07:03] <Scorchsaber> erm
[07:03] <GFDL> firstent, don't write in spanish anymore, did you hear me?
[07:03] <fade_> yeeees
[07:03] <Scorchsaber> don't beleive so
[07:03] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, that's the problem
[07:04] <Scorchsaber> ah
[07:04] <Antwarrior> fade_ : nooooo, not really . i asked you t o type
[07:04] <GFDL> right
[07:04] <Scorchsaber> Kind of used to windows. sorry
[07:04] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, do sudo -s in terminal
[07:04] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: He probably needs to be in /media or /mnt... he might be in /dev
[07:04] <tritium> Scorchsaber: sudo -i
[07:04] <rukuartic> Scorchsaber: We all were at one point... or at least I was :p
[07:04] <Antwarrior> fade_ : sudo chmod 755 * , in your media directory and then ls -l to screen
[07:04] <Eleaf> hi..
[07:04] <JayR> ive check my logs nothing helpful
[07:04] <Antwarrior> fade_ : make sure you are back in your media directory
[07:04] <Scorchsaber> well my cmputer is still checking battery state. Funnily enoug, there are no batteries
[07:04] <fade_> Antwarrior, so it is!
[07:04] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, that's ok it takes a while to get used to linux :)
[07:04] <Eleaf> I'm having really horrible network problems here
[07:05] <fade_> not one time
[07:05] <Antwarrior> fade_ : now that you are in /media
[07:05] <fade_> yes
[07:05] <Antwarrior> fade_ : type  sudo chmod 755 /media  and
[07:05] <kudeta> hey anybody tell me if the drapper drake is good to use now?
[07:05] <Antwarrior> fade_ : wait !!!
[07:05] <kudeta> or still too buggy
[07:06] <tritium> kudeta: see the topic
[07:06] <rukuartic> kudeta: When its released, it'll be good for use :)
[07:06] <_epp> can i just type smb://MSHOME in opera and get my windows network?
[07:06] <fade_> Antwarrior, i did it for two times
[07:06] <LinuxJones> Coocks, install Breezy or wait till June for the dapper release
[07:06] <Antwarrior> fade : type sudo chmod 755  /media/* ;and then type ls -l in your directory
[07:06] <Antwarrior> and paste to the irc screen
[07:06] <fade_> ok
[07:06] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, you have that command entered ?
[07:06] <Makura> Is there any way to adjust the brightness without using the monitor stuff?  (My monitor's brightness is maxed out and it's really dark)
[07:06] <Scorchsaber> LinuxJones, is there a way to get it to stop checking battery state, because it's still there
[07:06] <Seveas> ehrm, pasting in the channel is a bad idea
[07:06] <rukuartic> Antwarrior: Oooooh... Paste bin is better for that mate >>
[07:06] <Scorchsaber> checking the battery state
[07:06] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  is it ?
[07:06] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, umm
[07:06] <fade_> chmod:     `/media/cdrom': Read-only file system
[07:06] <fade_> chmod:     `/media/cdrom0': Read-only file system
[07:06] <fade_> chmod:     `/media/sda1': Read-only file system
[07:06] <fade_> chmod:     `/media/sda5': Read-only file system
[07:06] <fade_> chmod:     `/media/sda6': Read-only file system
[07:07] <Antwarrior> fade_ :  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!?!?!
[07:07] <Scorchsaber> seems to me it's frozen
[07:07] <rukuartic> !tell fade_ about pastebin
[07:07] <Seveas> NO pasting in here
[07:07] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, I dunno why it's doing that, this is a laptop ?
[07:07] <JayR> whats the difference between the kernel with i386 and i686 suffix?
[07:07] <Scorchsaber> nope, this is a desktop
[07:07] <nickrud> Makura: you can change the gamma of your monitor
[07:07] <rukuartic> JayR: Built to work better on the platform you're working on
[07:07] <Makura> nickrud: I said that my monitor is already maxed out =p
[07:07] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, can you do ctrl+alt+F3 ?
[07:07] <rukuartic> JayR: View /proc/cpuinfo and see what you've got
[07:08] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, does that give you a new login window ?
[07:08] <zth> is there a way to start an additional X server without XGL enabled but have the original one iwht XGL? (gonna use the 2nd one for gaming, need DRI for that)
[07:08] <nickrud> Makura: at the X level; experiment with xgamma (just .02 changes and the like) and then make it permanent in xorg.conf
[07:08] <Scorchsaber> hold on, let me try
[07:08] <Scorchsaber> yep, command line login
[07:08] <Makura> nickrud: Can you tell me where to change this?  I'm still very new to Linux. =p
[07:08] <_epp> can i just type smb://MSHOME in opera and get my windows network?
[07:08] <Jimmey__> Is 'remote assistance' easy to deal out to someone behind a NAT router?
[07:09] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, ok login then do sudo -s (re-enter your user password)
[07:09] <nickrud> Makura: when you know what value to use, add the line Option "Gamma" <number> to the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:09] <JayR> i have a P4 3.0 HT
[07:09] <Scorchsaber> done
[07:09] <dtamas> I have a problem with filesystems, I can not write to mounted usb and vfat drive. Strange because it is not mounted read-only...
[07:09] <Makura> nickrud: Where do I go to change values at the X level like you told me?
[07:09] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, ok do nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:10] <rukuartic> dtamas: What filesystems are they? NTFS?
[07:10] <Scorchsaber> ok
[07:10] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, do you see a config file ?
[07:10] <dtamas> rukuartic: fat32
[07:10] <roger> I dragged a file from an smb share to my desktop with the left button... now I can't find the file anywhere.. where did it go?
[07:10] <Scorchsaber> yea, I see the config file
[07:11] <dtamas> I checked my fstab and it seemed to be all right
[07:11] <Scorchsaber> sorry for the delays, I have to run between computers
[07:11] <nickrud> Makura: in a terminal, type xgamma -gamma 1.1 , see if that brightens your display
[07:11] <cdromke> hmm
[07:11] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, great now use the arrow down key to find the lines that have dri and glcore near the top (under the modules section) and put a # in front of each of those lines.
[07:11] <Makura> nickrud: Okay, thanks for you help! =] 
[07:12] <cdromke> i want to lower the resolution, in order to make 75Hz possible
[07:12] <Scorchsaber> done
[07:12] <nickrud> Makura: try xgamma -gamma 1.2 , see if that's better. experiment for the best value
[07:12] <cdromke> my evil monitor doesn't like reso's above 1152*864@75Hz
[07:12] <Makura> nickrud: Okay, and do you know why 1024x768 is the highest resolution I can go?
[07:13] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, once that is done scroll down near the middle of the file where it says nv or vesa and replace that text with nvidia (that's in the video card driver section)
[07:13] <Jimmey__> Is 'remote assistance' easy to deal out to someone behind a NAT router?
[07:13] <nickrud> Makura: possibly your Monitor config doesn't match your monitor correctly, see the link from ubotu below for fixing resolutions
[07:13] <TeRaHuRtZ> Forward ports
[07:13] <nickrud> !fixres
[07:13] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:13] <Makura> nickrud: Thanks again.
[07:14] <Rawplaye1> MI
[07:14] <Scorchsaber> the "Device" section?
[07:14] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, yeah it should say either nv or vesa replace that with nvidia
[07:15] <Scorchsaber> wierd. It has "ATI Radeon" thing, then "nvidia", then "PCI" on each of the three lines
[07:15] <Scorchsaber> not sure what to do
[07:15] <Scorchsaber> especially since I have an AGP card
[07:15] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, radeon ?
[07:16] <Scorchsaber> On the first line it has stuff about the ATI Radeon card
[07:16] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, ok replace the ati part with nvidia
[07:16] <erg0t_> hi every|
[07:16] <erg0t_> :)
[07:16] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, sorry I forgot you swapped out cards my bad :)
[07:17] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, it should say drive nvidia now right ?
[07:17] <Scorchsaber> It always said Driver Nvidia
[07:17] <roger> Anyone: When I dragged a file to my desktop, the file disappeared... anyone know why?
[07:17] <Scorchsaber> Thats why I thought it was wierd
[07:18] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, it's case sensitive that should be nvidia not Nvidia
[07:18] <Scorchsaber> On the line above the driver, it mentioned ATI Technologies
[07:18] <Makura> nickrud: Is there any way to only raise the gamma for a certain application?
[07:18] <Scorchsaber> yeah, it siad that
[07:18] <Scorchsaber> nvidia
[07:18] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, that's ok as long as it says driver nvidia you'll be ok
[07:18] <Scorchsaber> hm
[07:18] <napsy> Hi. When I pug in my camera the 'Import Photos' dialog appears. But when I try to import the photos, a buttom message appears, saying: "The path 'file://store_00303/DCIM/23' is not absolute.". What's wrong?
[07:18] <Scorchsaber> should I restart now?
[07:18] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, now do ctrl + o and press enter to save the changes
[07:19] <Scorchsaber> done
[07:19] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, then ctrl + x to exit the nano editor
[07:19] <nickrud> Makura: not without writing a bash script; and it would affect the entire screen anyway
[07:19] <Scorchsaber> um
[07:19] <Scorchsaber> the driver always was nvidia.
[07:19] <Makura> nickrud: Ah, alright.
[07:20] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, did the file save ?
[07:20] <Scorchsaber> yea
[07:20] <wonder_> hey, how would i found out what version the nvidia-kernel module loaded in my linux is?
[07:20] <Scorchsaber> nano's gone
[07:20] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, your back at terminal ?
[07:20] <Scorchsaber> yep
[07:20] <nico8481> damn i'm hesitating between american or british english for the system's default wordlist... what would you select? :o)
[07:20] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, now do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:20] <nico8481> (yes, i know, i have existencial questions... :o) )
[07:21] <Jimmey__> British
[07:21] <nickrud> wonder_: if you have nvidia-settings installed, run that. It'll tell you
[07:21] <wonder_> thats a part of my problem
[07:21] <Scorchsaber> "FAILED TO START THE X SERVER."
[07:21] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, oh god
[07:22] <wonder_> gives me segmentation fault
[07:22] <lezouave> #ubuntu-fr
[07:22] <Scorchsaber> sorry
[07:22] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, ok do apt-get update
[07:22] <wonder_> i fear the ubuntu nvidia packages and the downloaded one from nvidia.com got mixed up somehow
[07:22] <ChildOfGod> Hi. :)
[07:22] <nico8481> Jimmey__, coz, if you're interested into my pondering, british is maybe the most "pure" english; on an other hand they are far more people speaking the american one ;-)
[07:22] <Makura> nickrud: How would I edit the xorg.conf ?  I don't have priviledges to change it
[07:22] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, once that's done do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <wonder_> i get segmentation faults now for many apps, like wine, xawtv
[07:23] <Scorchsaber> updating
[07:23] <nickrud> Makura: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:23] <nickrud> Makura: enter your personal password
[07:23] <wonder_> i have got no idea how to cleanly uninstall everything nvidia
[07:23] <Makura> nickrud: Thanks
[07:23] <Scorchsaber> "done"
[07:23] <tritium> nico8481: the language has evolved over time...
[07:23] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, BTW this is alot harder than it should be :D
[07:23] <wonder_> and then fresh install the driver from nvidia.com
[07:23] <_kaos_> how would i use find to show only files that arent .mp3?
[07:23] <tritium> wonder_: please don't advise that
[07:23] <wonder_> ?
[07:23] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  did you do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[07:23] <nico8481> tritium, how am i supposed to take it? :)
[07:24] <Scorchsaber> no...
[07:24] <tritium> nico8481: hmm?
[07:24] <Scorchsaber> um, if it matters, gnome hasn't been working since a power failure
[07:24] <wonder_> tritium: what do you mean?
[07:24] <nico8481> tritium, i mean what do you mean :)
[07:24] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  do that and see if you are missing any necessary xorg packages
[07:24] <ChildOfGod> For Gnome apt-get install gnome For KDE apt-get install kde, works for me. :)
[07:24] <tritium> wonder_: it's preferable to use ubuntu packages, not downloads off of nvidia.com or ati.com
[07:24] <nico8481> tritium, about the language having evolved
[07:24] <nickrud> ChildOfGod: those are the debian meta packages, not ubuntu's
[07:24] <ChildOfGod> Are they?
[07:24] <Makura> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10078 ?
[07:25] <erg0t_> hello all, im wondering what is the "ubuntu way", if it exists one, to download and install a new kernel?
[07:25] <wonder_> ok
[07:25] <erg0t_> or does it have to be done by hand?
[07:25] <wonder_> but i installed the ubuntu package too
[07:25] <wonder_> didn't work
[07:25] <wonder_> thats why i have tried the nvidia package
[07:25] <tritium> nico8481: "purity" is relative.  English has many German, Greek, Latin root words..
[07:25] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  is it downloading anything ?
[07:25] <Scorchsaber> did the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, nothing downloaded
[07:25] <lionpaw> hello! i have a question and hope you can help me. i would like to add something in my sourcelist. but i have no permission to do so. how can i get it?
[07:25] <Jimmey__> In synaptic, I downloaded and installed the 686 kernel.
[07:25] <nickrud> Makura: but, gedit opened, right? (those are transient failures)
[07:25] <tritium> wonder_: perhaps you didn't follow the wiki instructions thoroughly?
[07:25] <ChildOfGod> Sorry, i always chane the sources.list file.
[07:25] <ChildOfGod> *change
[07:25] <nico8481> ah uh yeah maybe....
[07:25] <Makura> nickrud: The conf was blank
[07:25] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  ok 1 last thing to try do dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:25] <nickrud> ChildOfGod: no, those meta's are in ubuntu as well
[07:26] <quickblaine> hi all
[07:26] <nickrud> Makura: close, and reopen. You probably mistyped the path -> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:26] <nico8481> tritium, so what? you would advocate learning the american one instead of the british one? :)
[07:26] <ChildOfGod> I ususally use FluxBox, nice desktop. :)
[07:26] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  nvidia should be listed when you get to the video card driver settings select that and leave everything else default unless you know for sure what it is.
[07:26] <tritium> nico8481: I didn't advocate anything.
[07:26] <erg0t_> xfce rules
[07:27] <Makura> nickrud: The path is correct
[07:27] <Jimmey__> erg0t_: Sure does.
[07:27] <nico8481> tritium, i know, that's why i used the conditionnal (would) ;-)
[07:27] <ron_> is there a quickpar app?
[07:27] <Scorchsaber> did that
[07:27] <erg0t_> Jimmey__, oh, what is it??
[07:27] <tritium> nico8481: I'd probably make that decision based on regional preferences
[07:27] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  try re-starting gdm again arrow up till you see the line again
[07:27] <Jimmey__> erg0t_, XFCE?
[07:27] <lionpaw> @all: do you know how to get permission to change the sourcelist?
[07:28] <nickrud> Makura: cut and paste this exactly:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <demonnaie> sudo vi
[07:28] <erg0t_> Jimmey__, i like it, yes. (xfce)
[07:28] <nico8481> tritium, hmm nice idea :)
[07:29] <Jimmey__> erg0t_, I know, it rules.
[07:29] <ChildOfGod> sudo -i use your user name password.
[07:29] <Makura> nickrud: Same thing happens.  Do I need to cd?
[07:29] <erg0t_> Jimmey__, oh yes it does. lightweight and beautiful.
[07:29] <Scorchsaber> just says that it's stopping and starting gnome, with oks by both
[07:29] <erg0t_> heh.
[07:29] <nico8481> tritium, anyway for the system's language i think the wiser choice is to select the one offering the most available stuff (docs, translations etc) isn't it?
[07:29] <Scorchsaber> nothibng else
[07:29] <tritium> nico8481: perhaps so
[07:29] <Jimmey__> erg0t_, I think there's going to be an Xubuntu Dapper release.
[07:29] <nico8481> :-)
[07:29] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  hit ctrl + alt + F7
[07:29] <ron_> anyone know of a app to run par2 files?
[07:29] <rsyncx> Hi, is there command set of erasing one of the files out of the rc*.d directories?
[07:29] <ron_> like quickpar
[07:29] <Seveas> !info gpar
[07:29] <ron_> ?
[07:29] <erg0t_> Jimmey__, no shiat?
[07:29] <nickrud> Makura: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:29] <erg0t_> Jimmey__, sweet.
[07:29] <tritium> rsyncx: update-rc.d
[07:29] <rsyncx> for debian
[07:29] <rsyncx> tritium, thanks!
[07:29] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  do you see gnome ?
[07:30] <Makura> nickrud: Ubuntu Breezy 5.10
[07:30] <Scorchsaber> it nowsays that the X server is now disabled, and to restart GDM when it is reconfigured correctly
[07:30] <tritium> rsyncx: sure.  You'll want to see the manpage for full details.  :)
[07:30] <rsyncx> tritium, just a n00b from gentoo lol.
[07:30] <Scorchsaber> Should I just reinstall ubuntu with my Nvidia card in?
[07:30] <tritium> rsyncx: welcome :)
[07:30] <Scorchsaber> instead of ATI?
[07:30] <nickrud> Makura: then that should work.  try this one in a terminal:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:30] <Jimmey__> 'n00b from gentoo' - Do they exist?
[07:31] <Scorchsaber> I get the vague feeling reinstalling will fix everything
[07:31] <Scorchsaber> and if it doesn't, at least I'll have GNOME back up
[07:31] <tritium> Scorchsaber: no, follow the wiki page for nvidia
[07:31] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  ok well you can go back and use the vesa driver to get gnome back up and running
[07:31] <nickrud> Makura: be sure to have the first X capitalized
[07:31] <tritium> Scorchsaber: all you need to do is install the nvidia packages, reconfigure xserver-xorg, and you should be fine
[07:31] <Makura> nickrud: Copied and pasted, it worked.
[07:31] <Makura> nickrud: Looks strange to navigate though
[07:31] <rsyncx> Jimmey__, debian core in whole lot better shape since 1999, when i tried it first with deselect and proto-emacsian keystrokes
[07:31] <nickrud> Makura: page up, page down, arrow keys, and the like 
[07:31] <erg0t_> rsyncx, hi
[07:31] <Jimmey__> lol, did I just get pwnd?
[07:32] <Makura> nickrud: Yeah, it's easy.  Nevermind!
[07:32] <tritium> Scorchsaber: not necessary, and too much hassle
[07:32] <rsyncx> erg0t_, eh sup
[07:32] <Scorchsaber> LinuxJones?
[07:32] <quickblaine> hey guys... was trying to make ubuntu recognise my ps2 mouse by editing the xorg.conf file which i did, but each time i did it i restarted and got an error to do with the xserver, something graphical, so that all i got was the black and white writing. after rebooting a few times i gave up and reinstalled linux. it worked fine again, but then when i tried to edit the xorg.conf file it did it again! i re installed again and dont dare
[07:32] <quickblaine>  touch the xorg.conf file but im still worried it will do it again so i dont dare reboot. anyone know whats going on?
[07:32] <nickrud> Scorchsaber: does the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log (at the end) tell you anything?
[07:32] <erg0t_> rsyncx, eh. lol. so canadian.
[07:32] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  run dpkg-reconfigure again and select vesa as the video driver
[07:32] <warty_> hola
[07:32] <Makura> nickrud: And to save?
[07:32] <torttu> !w32codecs
[07:32] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:32] <rsyncx> erg0t_, meh
[07:32] <nickrud> Makura: ctl-x , and save
[07:33] <rsyncx> erg0t_, know srbaker/
[07:33] <Makura> nickrud: I appreciate all the help!
[07:33] <Scorchsaber> umm... I can't exit the screen saying X server isn't configured
[07:33] <Scorchsaber> Maybe I should just reinstall
[07:33] <nickrud> Makura: no problem, I had to learn that stuff for a crappy monitor of my own once
[07:33] <tritium> Scorchsaber: that's not necessary, I've said.
[07:33] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber,  hit escape key
[07:33] <yezariael> hi
[07:33] <rsyncx> erg0t_, u canadian?
[07:34] <yezariael> can anyone tell me how to remove the boot-splash???
[07:34] <erg0t_> rsyncx, lol, nah
[07:34] <erg0t_> rsyncx, Mexican
[07:34] <Scorchsaber> escape key does nothing
[07:34] <erg0t_> rsyncx, aye carumba
[07:34] <Makura> nickrud: What suprises me is that the LCD monitor for the other computer (which I can't pilfer, sadly =P) is brighter than this one (CRT)
[07:34] <nickrud> Makura: go figure 
[07:34] <rsyncx> erg0t_, eh, send me some of that cheap tequila
[07:35] <tritium> Scorchsaber: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and setup nvidia...
[07:35] <Makura> nickrud: Oh well, this method works great.
[07:35] <erg0t_> rsyncx, hahahahaha
[07:35] <erg0t_> rsyncx, sure man, but will take that literally
[07:35] <quickblaine> hey guys... was trying to make ubuntu recognise my ps2 mouse by editing the xorg.conf file which i did, but each time i did it i restarted and got an error to do with the xserver, something graphical, so that all i got was the black and white writing. after rebooting a few times i gave up and reinstalled linux. it worked fine again, but then when i tried to edit the xorg.conf file it did it again! i re installed again and dont dare
[07:35] <quickblaine>  touch the xorg.conf file but im still worried it will do it again so i dont dare reboot. anyone know whats going on?
[07:35] <erg0t_> rsyncx, will send you the cheapest
[07:35] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, can you do ctrl+alt+F3
[07:35] <Scorchsaber> I can't get to the console, there's this screen saying X server is not configured, and I can't get out of it
[07:35] <erg0t_> rsyncx, you know, the one that leaves you blind?
[07:35] <Scorchsaber> Ill try that...
[07:35] <nickrud> yezariael: in /boot/grub/menu.lst , remove the references to splash
[07:35] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, arrow up to the dpkg-reconfigure line
[07:36] <Scorchsaber> exited
[07:36] <yezariael> nickrud: hmm. i use yaboot, but i'll see if i can find a similar line there
[07:36] <nickrud> yezariael: I've never yaboot'd , so I can't help
[07:36] <rsyncx> erg0t_, you haven't tried anything if you haven't tried dollar 1.5 liter russian vodka
[07:37] <erg0t_> rsyncx, hahahaha
[07:37] <erg0t_> rsyncx, i dont think i wanna try that
[07:37] <quickblaine> hey guys... was trying to make ubuntu recognise my ps2 mouse by editing the xorg.conf file which i did, but each time i did it i restarted and got an error to do with the xserver, something graphical, so that all i got was the black and white writing. after rebooting a few times i gave up and reinstalled linux. it worked fine again, but then when i tried to edit the xorg.conf file it did it again! i re installed again and dont dare
[07:37] <quickblaine>  touch the xorg.conf file but im still worried it will do it again so i dont dare reboot. anyone know whats going on?
[07:38] <quickblaine> and besides that, i still cant get it to recognise my mouse? any suggs?
[07:38] <Scorchsaber> Doesn't work. I'm just going to reinstall, my computer is more messed up than when I first came here
[07:38] <Scorchsaber> thanks anyway
[07:38] <nickrud> tritium: had be goin' for a sec
[07:39] <tritium> nickrud: :)
[07:39] <tritium> *sigh*
[07:39] <quickblaine> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my mouse??
[07:39] <tritium> quickblaine: normally, you need do nothing
[07:39] <void^> linux users reinstalling because of X config issue?
[07:40] <mdmkolbe> I am looking at installing ubuntu and I was wondering if it has any other color schemes than the default brown.  Are there any screenshots of these?
[07:40] !christel:*!  Are you good with LAMP? Looking for developer to build on existing voip billing system! Previous work examples advantegous. Contact InfraRed for more information.
[07:40] <Blippe> gnome-look.org
[07:40] <void^> i'm pretty sure you can use any gnome theme.
[07:40] <quickblaine> tritium: yeh, but im on a laptop, its found the touchpad but not the ps2 mouse. when i move it the touchpad freezes for a bit so i think it sees in in some respect.
[07:40] <nickrud> mdmkolbe: check out System-Preferences-Theme, and art.gnome.org
[07:40] <tritium> void^: unnessary.   only for the impatient
[07:41] <tritium> quickblaine: breezy?
[07:41] <erisco> is there a program available to Ubuntu that allows you to record your screen? Like to make a video?
[07:41] <quickblaine> tritium: yeh, 5.10
[07:41] <nickrud> erez: istanbul I think it's called
[07:41] <tritium> quickblaine: have you tried loading the "psmouse" module?
[07:41] <zth> i need some help, typing xinit gives me X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[07:42] <quickblaine> tritium: no, how do i go about doing that?
[07:42] <zth> any tips?
[07:42] <tritium> quickblaine: sudo modprobe psmouse
[07:42] <void^> touchpad+external hotplugged mouse is a bit difficult
[07:42] <tritium> quickblaine: is it loaded already?
[07:42] <nickrud> zth: try echo "gnome-session" >> ~/.xsession && startx
[07:42] <void^> may have to add both devices to the xorg.conf separately
[07:42] <erisco> zth, did you try sudo xinit ?
[07:42] <ssh-less> Hey trying to get ssh running on a strange port and not having luck. Ssh works fine but if I change sshd_config to port 3210 it refuses to answer.
[07:42] <tritium> zth: most users use the default display manager
[07:43] <jke> zth: try runnning gdm/kdm
[07:43] <zth> nickrud, gives me the same thing
[07:43] <quickblaine> tritium: did that, nothing happened
[07:43] <zth> i'm trying to start an additional server at display 1
[07:43] <nickrud> zth: startx -- :1
[07:44] <nickrud> zth: I think 
[07:44] <TeRaHuRtZ> thats right
[07:44] <TeRaHuRtZ> startx -- :1
[07:44] <zth> still gives me "user not authorized"
[07:44] <nickrud> TeRaHuRtZ: thanks, it's been a while
[07:44] <tritium> quickblaine: can you paste your /proc/bus/input/devices on pastebin please?
[07:44] <samuel> ciao
[07:45] <quickblaine> tritium: eh? whats pastebin?
[07:45] <nickrud> zth: I don't know X near enough to help troubleshoot that.
[07:45] <tritium> !tell quickblaine about paste
[07:45] <samuel> do you speak italian?
[07:45] <tritium> not here, samuel
[07:45] <tritium> !it
[07:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:45] <zth> nickrud, ok thanks anyway
[07:45] <khxxm> downloaded mplayer from ubuntu but there isn't any text file how do I install mplayer?  I only been on linux for a few days any hint would help me greatly
[07:46] <nickrud> zth: maybe one more thing: rm ~/.Xauthority and try again?
[07:46] <Ramunas> hello
[07:46] <Ramunas> how can i make some free space? like removing log files or clearing apt cache
[07:46] <ssh-less> where is sshd running? I am used to /etc/init.d/sshd but it's not there. a quick locate shows that it's installed as openssh-server
[07:46] <nickrud> zth: no, not right I don't think
[07:46] <tritium> ssh-less: did you install it?
[07:47] <quickblaine> tritium: what should i name it?
[07:47] <ssh-less> tritium, I installed openssh-server
[07:47] <tritium> ssh-less: it should auto-start after install, and upon each reboot.  You can "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart" to restart it.
[07:47] <ssh-less> Thanks, Tritium
[07:47] <ssh-less> Very much
[07:48] <tritium> ssh-less: sure.  :)
[07:49] <quickblaine> tritium: what should i name the pastebin thing?
[07:49] <tritium> quickblaine: anything you like.  just let me know
[07:49] <samuel> ciao
[07:50] <samuel> italian
[07:50] <ninzin> afternoon all! was wondering if the PLF repository was down, I can't seem to get any ubuntu packages from them
[07:50] <tritium> I already told you, samuel
[07:50] <samuel> you have got gnome meeting?
[07:51] <Makura> nickrud: Would you know how I could change ownership of a folder so I could copy some files into it
[07:51] <jind> Does breezy badger have a known problem with external dvdwriters?
[07:51] <jind> I have a problem writing dvd with the device and not cd
[07:51] <samuel> you have got gnome meeting?
[07:51] <quickblaine> tritium: ok there ya go.
[07:51] <ninzin> Makura: do you want to be the primary owner?
[07:51] <Makura> ninzin: I have no clue, I just need to copy some files to a directory
[07:52] <Makura> ninzin: I figured ownership must be what's keeping me from doing so
[07:52] <ssh-less> tritium: in /etc/ssh/sshd i did strict mode no, saved, restarted and still I am told that it is in strict mode. Know what gives?
[07:52] <idefix> ./jquest: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory but I did mark the upgrade in synaptic
[07:53] <ninzin> Makura: there are a couple of issues to consider.  one who owns it and two who can write to it. if you just want anyone to be able to write to it try: sudo chmod 777 /path/to/directory
[07:53] <Makura> ninzin: I'll try that, thanks
[07:53] <ssh-less> n /etc/ssh/sshd i did strict mode no, saved, restarted and still I am told that it is in strict mode. Know what gives?
[07:54] <quickblaine> tritium: i posted it on there, what now?
[07:54] <ninzin> afternoon all! was wondering if the PLF repository was down, I can't seem to get any ubuntu packages from them
[07:54] <Averiano>  ?
[07:54] <idefix> aha
[07:54] <idefix> ninzin, so that's my problem too then!
[07:55] <tritium> ssh-less: no, not sure what that mode is
[07:55] <tritium> quickblaine: what's the name?
[07:55] <Averiano>    
[07:55] <ninzin> idefix: can't get to the PLF?
[07:55] <Averiano>  
[07:55] <ssh-less> StrictMode
[07:55] <tritium> Averiano: english, please
[07:55] <nickrud> Makura: a quick over view of file permissions is at http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs235ta/winter2006/help/security.php
[07:55] <Averiano>  ?
[07:55] <Makura> nickrud: Thanks
[07:55] <quickblaine> tritium: quickblaine
[07:55] <idefix> ninzin, I tried to mark and load libsdl-image1.2
[07:55] <ninzin> Makura: points to nickrud's link ::good read::
[07:56] <Makura> ninzin: Okay. =p
[07:56] <idefix> but i get the following error: ./jquest: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:56] <idefix> nincin!
[07:56] <idefix> ninzin
[07:56] <Averiano>  ,  ?
[07:56] <aljoschak> Hallo?
[07:56] <GFDL> ?
[07:56] <ninzin> idefix: I can't seem to get any info from that repository not sure if same issue or no.
[07:57] <mdmkolbe> If I install flight 5 now, then when dapper final comes out, would it be better to do a clean reinstall or just update to it via apt?
[07:57] <idefix> so we have to wait a couple of days and then everything'll work again?!
[07:57] <idefix> ninzin
[07:57] <idefix> ?
[07:57] <Verbal_> hey everybody, I had a question about installing
[07:57] <Verbal_> during install I get an error message after it detects my cd-rom, it says error in mounting CD, check to make sure the CD is in the drive, which I know it is, and I tell it to try mounting again and I get the same error message
[07:57] <V4Vendetta> what the hell
[07:57] <V4Vendetta> my keyboard keys all work now?
[07:57] <Averiano>  
[07:57] <V4Vendetta> they never worked before
[07:57] <nickrud> idefix: try installing libsdl-image1.2
[07:57] <Verbal_> I get this just after I choose my country,language etc. about 10 seconds into the install
[07:57] <Averiano>  ?
[07:58] <quickblaine> tritium: so what shud i do?
[07:58] <idefix> so I just mark them and then reload?
[07:58] <GFDL> Averiano stop
[07:58] <idefix> nickrud?
[07:58] <aljoschak> I've got a problem using wlan with IPW2100, can anyone help me?
[07:58] <idefix> nickrudI did that, restarted my PC but now they are unmarked again
[07:58] <ninzin> aljoschak: what's up
[07:58] <robeer> hello
[07:58] <idefix>  nickrud I did that, restarted my PC but now they are unmarked again
[07:58] <idefix> * caglar has quit (Rem
[07:58] <tritium> quickblaine: I'm looking.  GIve me a sec...
[07:58] <quickblaine> tritium: okay
[07:58] <nickrud> idefix: have you been mixing apt-get and aptitude installs?
[07:59] <aljoschak> My ipw2100 seems to be up, but has no txpower and I can't connect to my ap.
[07:59] <tritium> quickblaine: it's that Aiptek device?
[07:59] <idefix> nickrud I used synaptic
[07:59] <ninzin> aljoschak: what do you mean by seems to be up?
[07:59] <nickrud> idefix: very strange then.
[08:00] <idefix> nickrud ninzin said some server was down, could that be the problem?
[08:00] <quickblaine> tritium: yeh thats what i though... but it doesnt work... when i move the mouse nowt happens and the touchpad freezes for a bit
[08:00] <V4Vendetta> why would my multimedia keyboard keys start working for no reason?
[08:00] <Verbal_> during install I get an error message after it detects my cd-rom, it says error in mounting CD, check to make sure the CD is in the drive, which I know it is, and I tell it to try mounting again and I get the same error message, anybody have an idea as to why its giving me this message
[08:00] <aljoschak> it is marked as activated
[08:00] <aljoschak> in the systemtray
[08:00] <ninzin> et all is anyone using the PLF repositories
[08:00] <nickrud> idefix: if you never got the package, then closed synaptic, I could imagine synaptic deciding not to install.
[08:00] <V4Vendetta> ninzin, i am
[08:01] <ninzin> V4Vendetta: can you check and see if they're up atm plz
[08:01] <tritium> quickblaine: had to say
[08:01] <nickrud> Verbal_: I had that happen to me on a 2 cd machine once, I put the cd in the other drive
[08:01] <quickblaine> tritium, what?
[08:01] <ninzin> V4Vendetta: would like to rule of my insanity as a possible issue with not being able to get a connection
[08:01] <V4Vendetta> ninzin, they are up
[08:01] <tritium> quickblaine: sorry, it's hard to say what the problem is
[08:02] <aljoschak> Ninzin: But the txpower is off and `sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on` just says "Invalid argument"
[08:02] <Verbal_> nickrud: exactly I have a dvd-rw and a cd-rw, but I tried putting it in the other drive, the system locked up
[08:02] <quickblaine> tritium: any suggestions for solutions? its just i have a problem in my wrist that makes it hard to write.
[08:02] <V4Vendetta>                            12
[08:02] <Verbal_> unless it was mounting the drive and it takes loger than 3-4 minutes to do so without giving the user any info of what its doing
[08:03] <Verbal_> mounting the cd*
[08:03] <ninzin> aljoschak: what type of notebook?
[08:03] <quickblaine> tritium: wait a sec! that aiptek device isnt the mouse! thats my graphics tablet, whoops
[08:03] <tritium> quickblaine: please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastebin also
[08:03] <nickrud> Verbal_: no, it came right up
[08:03] <Verbal_> nickrud: oh lol, then nope :s
[08:03] <aljoschak> ninzin: FS AMilo M7400
[08:03] <tritium> quickblaine: is it plugged in?  I need to see that output when it's connected
[08:03] <idefix> nickrud, what's the difference between libsdl-image 1.2 and libsdl-image1.2-dev ?
[08:03] <quickblaine> tritium: yeh it is connected
[08:03] <Bisschop> I'm pretty new to ubuntu but I want to know if there is a screen capturing program to make video's with included with ubuntu?
[08:03] <tritium> idefix: the -dev includes the header files for development, not just the lib
[08:04] <nickrud> idefix: the -dev package has the headers & other useful stuff for compiling apps that use sdl
[08:04] <godfathr> is there a deb for gdesklets 0.35.3 ?
[08:04] <ninzin> aljoschak: this is going to sound funny but there is a hotkey to turnon the power to your wireless internal card.  FN + something or something like that... what is it for your model?
[08:04] <godfathr> i think the version that gets installed by default is buggy as hell.. 0.34 or something
[08:04] <tritium> !info gdesklets
[08:04] <ubotu> gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 404 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[08:05] <twa1296> how do i take a screenshot in xfce4?
[08:05] <ninzin> aljoschak: sounds like you're power is off to the card atm
[08:05] <Bisschop> I'm pretty new to ubuntu but I want to know if there is a screen capturing program to make video's with, included with ubuntu?
[08:05] <tritium> Bisschop: stop repeating please
[08:05] <idefix> tritium nickrud do you have to click on reload before you click on apply?
[08:05] <tritium> idefix: ?  Are you referring to synaptic, or something?
[08:05] <godfathr> how do i query a package version with apt-get before installing
[08:05] <idefix> tritium yes
[08:05] <nickrud> idefix: no. Reload gets the list of packages, apply installs packages
[08:05] <ninzin> anyone else successfully connect to the PLF repository today?
[08:06] <quickblaine> tritium: so does that mean that its not recognising the mouse at all
[08:06] <tritium> godfathr: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[08:06] <idefix> ninzin yes me
[08:06] <godfathr> thanks
[08:06] <tritium> quickblaine: well, is it already plugged in?
[08:06] <idefix> ninzin I think...
[08:07] <nickrud> godfathr: a couple other useful apt-cache invocations: apt-cache show <pkg> and apt-cache search <search string>
[08:07] <aljoschak> ninzin: It has a separat button. But the LED powers up while initializing. That way it worked with debian some time ago
[08:07] <ninzin> idefix: therefore you are.
[08:07] <ninzin> aljoschak: is it on now?
[08:07] <a-dam> anyone know how to install Freenet on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <quickblaine> tritium: yes its plugged in, and btw my xorg.conf is now on the pastebin under quickblaine2
[08:08] <tritium> okay
[08:08] <godfathr> nickrud: thanks. i use search quite a bit but thanks about show
[08:08] <aljoschak> The LED is now on and acts like searching for an AP under windows
[08:08] <idefix> nickrud great, i installed libSDL-image-1.2.so.0 now the program says it can't open libstdc++.so.5, how long can this go on?
[08:08] <nickrud> idefix: until your program ends up in the repos  install libstdc++5
[08:09] <kudeta> hey can someone tell me a good place tokeep new programs im installing by hand?
[08:09] <kudeta> not shure where to put it
[08:09] <nickrud> idefix: there's a new gui utility in dapper, gdebi or something like that which will take away a lot of that pain
[08:09] <tritium> /usr/local
[08:09] <GFDL> idefix, install build-essential
[08:09] <ninzin> aljoschak: ok now try this.... iwlist eth1 scan     *or whatever eth device it is*
[08:09] <ssh-less> tritium, can you please have a look at http://pastebin.com/598303 at my sshd_config file? StrictModes are OFF yet ssh is complaining that they are ON
[08:09] <tritium> idefix: once you install what you need, it'll stop
[08:09] <tritium> ssh-less: I'm not familiar with strict modes
[08:10] <aljoschak> ninzin: eth1 No scan results
[08:10] <ssh-less> Okay thanks.
[08:10] <ninzin> aljoschak: that means that your card is up. it's scanning. and it dosent see your wap
[08:10] <quickblaine> tritium: it looks like the xorg.conf file recognises the mouse
[08:10] <ssh-less> Can ANYONE familiar with SSH setup tell me what's wrong with the config at http://pastebin.com/598303
[08:10] <aljoschak> Ninzin: iwconfig eth1 says Tx-Power:off, is that a problem?
[08:10] <idefix> so I install all 5 libstdc++5's ?
[08:11] <ninzin> aljoschak: try setting it to on.
[08:11] <gnu2it2> where is gdm or xdm started from on boot? i need to stop it till i get my video figgured out
[08:11] <nickrud> idefix: no, the exact package name I gave you
[08:11] <tritium> idefix: no
[08:11] <ninzin> aljoschak: I'm not sure why it would be set to off.  may be because it can't find a wap...
[08:12] <ninzin> idefix: did you see the list i sent you?
[08:12] <idefix> ninzin no
[08:12] <ninzin> are these settings correct?
[08:12] <idefix> is it because I'm not registered?
[08:13] <idefix> ninzin, can you resend it?
[08:13] <ninzin> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free
[08:13] <ninzin> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf breezy free non-free
[08:13] <kbrooks> ...
[08:13] <ninzin> are those correct?
[08:13] <kbrooks> theSE ARE UNOFFICIAL.
[08:13] <aljoschak> Ninzin: "sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on" says "Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument." :-(
[08:13] <tritium> quickblaine: it looks fine
[08:13] <kbrooks> !marillat
[08:13] <ubotu> If you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.
[08:14] <ninzin> kbrooks: those aren't the marillat
[08:14] <kbrooks> ubotu, marillat is also don't overuse them.
[08:14] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[08:14] <nickrud> probably plf's repos are as good as any.
[08:14] <GFDL> why do you need marillat stuff in ubuntu?
[08:14] <kbrooks> ninzin, i was checking the factoid
[08:14] <nickrud> outside ones, that is
[08:14] <quickblaine>  tritium: but the mouse ent working :(
[08:14] <ninzin> nickrud: are those correct?
[08:14] <tritium> quickblaine: ent?
[08:15] <kbrooks> its dangerous to mix debian anxd ubuntu.
[08:15] <quickblaine> tritium: isnt... sorry south english accent :)
[08:15] <nickrud> ninzin: I don't use them, I'm not sure if that's the correct invocation
[08:15] <tritium> quickblaine: oh, heh.  I know, not sure what the reason might be.
[08:15] <dee_> hello. could someone help with "gnome bug tracker"? It's not ubuntu-related in general, but the crash appears in ubuntu.
[08:15] <ninzin> nickrud:can't figure why i can't coonect to the repository today,,,
[08:15] <jenda> can grep open .odts or .rtfs?
[08:15] <nickrud> kbrooks: plf makes repos for breezy illegal stuff, it's not debian debs
[08:16] <Engla> I need help with epiphany. It doesn't want to open external links in tabs..
[08:16] <ninzin> nickrud: not all illegal just license encombored
[08:16] <GFDL> jenda, what are rtfs?
[08:16] <kbrooks> nickrud, i was being irrevelant
[08:16] <quickblaine> tritium: how bout if i tried disabling the touchpad in the BIOS? would that force the mouse to work (if it doesent i have the graphics tablet to fall back on)
[08:16] <godfathr> is there a program like dvd shrink out?
[08:16] <gnu2it2> where is gdm or xdm started from on boot? i need to stop it till i get my video figgured out
[08:16] <tritium> quickblaine: I can't guarantee that.  You can try it, though.
[08:16] <nickrud> ninzin: for me, that's the same thing, boo hoo
[08:16] <tarzeau> gnu2it2: rc2.d
[08:16] <godfathr> i know seveas has a dvd shrink package.. but that doesn't retain menus or anything
[08:16] <gnu2it2> thanks
[08:17] <ninzin> nickrud: then why use Ubuntu?
[08:17] <tritium> gnu2it2: all the initscripts are in /etc/init.d, and symlinked in the /etc/rc*.d directories
[08:17] <CarinArr> hurts;/
[08:17] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[08:17] <CarinArr> heh
[08:17] <xulin> xav t la ?
[08:17] <nickrud> ninzin: main & universe are free
[08:17] <tritium> gnu2it2: use update-rc.d
[08:17] <jenda> GFDL: They are RTFMs without the manual... no, in fact, they are Rich Text Format files.
[08:17] <ninzin> nickrud: not all in mail is "free" just no cost
[08:17] <ninzin> nickrud: not all in universe i mean
[08:17] <ninzin> !universe
[08:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:17] <nickrud> ninzin: what, in universe, is not freely redistributable?
[08:17] <jenda> GFDL: And it seems it can't...
[08:18] <ron_> no audio in vlc :/
[08:18] <nickrud> !components
[08:18] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[08:18] <aljoschak> Ninzin: "sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on" says "Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument." :-(
[08:18] <ninzin> nickrud: now I gotta go dig up that article on the ubuntu forums lol *sigh*
[08:18] <ankka> does anybody use netwmpager? I can't get it to be lower than other windows, it always is on top of them, which is annoying when watchin videos full-screen
[08:18] <quickblaine> tritium: well im gonna a try it for the hell of it, thanks for your time
[08:18] <GFDL> jenda, you can use unrtf on the file to transform it to text and then grep the text
[08:19] <ninzin> nickrud: freely redistributable does not = "free as in freedom" softwrae
[08:19] <jenda> GFDL: OK, thankx
[08:19] <tritium> quickblaine: good luck.  I need to go, anway.
[08:19] <Phoul> How do i use this command right
[08:19] <Phoul> sudo chown -R user:**user_name** ~/.ecore
[08:19] <kudeta> how do i remove the java j2e
[08:20] <kudeta> can i just rmdir the directory
[08:20] <kudeta> or?
[08:20] <nickrud> ninzin: often true, the beer stuff is supposed to be in multiverse I think
[08:20] <jenda> GFDL: Will that overwrite the rtfs or not?
[08:20] <mdmkolbe> If I install flight 5 now, then when dapper final comes out will it be better to fresh reinstall or upgrade via apt?
[08:20] <NegativeSpace> Hi, I got mplayer and when I watch a DVD on it, the sound is slightly off with the picture, and the picture isn't of the best quality -- is there any way of improving the sound and picture?
[08:21] <GFDL> jenda, no AFAIK you can specify an output file
[08:21] <j2daosh> ok... i have a question about vi. how do i make it change colors for different things? like commands, variables, commented out lines... stuff like that?
[08:21] <jenda> GFDL: I need to do it en masse
[08:21] <jenda> GFDL: RTFMing now
[08:21] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: try the config in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto, and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:21] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay, thanks. Oh yeah, I got Java working, by the way.
[08:22] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: hey, good. I thought your nick was familiar 
[08:22] <jenda> GFDL: but it won't say...
[08:22] <j2daosh> anyone?
[08:23] <nickrud> j2daosh: on the bottom line, syntax on
[08:23] <zoombiepiratex> \U30C4
[08:23] <GFDL> jenda, you can do inside a script, or ls *.rtf|xargs -i unrtf ...
[08:23] <j2daosh> hey!! long time no see... whats up man?
[08:23] <jenda> GFDL: OK, thanks.
[08:24] <nickrud> j2daosh: add that line to ~/.vimrc to make it permanent
[08:24] <kaha> Question: is there an unofficial repository where I could get the 2.3x (unstable) version of the Gimp?
[08:24] <j2daosh> lol
[08:26] <ion> I'd download a softaware if wanna install wich commands I have to type ....sorry I forgot
[08:26] <prxq> how do I get kubuntu to load my .Xmodmap at login?
[08:26] <mdmkolbe> If I install flight 5 now, then when dapper final comes out will it be better to fresh reinstall or upgrade via apt?
[08:27] <GFDL> mdmkolbe, will be exactly the same
[08:27] <thinkle> Anyone done a breezy->dapper update recently & have a report on success or failure?
[08:27] <nickrud> mdmkolbe: and, you won't have to redo all your work
[08:27] <mdmkolbe> cool
[08:28] <j2daosh> nickrud, .vimrc is a new file?
[08:28] <idefix> nickrud hey it works now
[08:28] <nickrud> j2daosh: yeah
[08:28] <j2daosh> oh... ok
[08:28] <j2daosh> lol
[08:28] <nickrud> idefix: good. I hate deb heck 
[08:29] <idefix> how do you make this japanese sign?
[08:29] <idefix> nickrud what's deb heck?
[08:29] <GFDL> 
[08:29] <idefix> ?
[08:29] <GFDL> very easy
[08:29] <grout58> hey nickrud
[08:29] <idefix> you probably have a superkeyboard
[08:29] <GFDL>  no
[08:29] <nickrud> idefix: I have the : ) smiley face replaced with  in xchat's advance prefs (auto replace)
[08:30] <thinkle> GDFL Control-Shift+some magic code?
[08:30] <GFDL>  no
[08:30] <thinkle> GFDL -- alas -- do you know the unicode for the funky :)
[08:30] <Scorchsaber> LinuxJones? It's scorchsaber
[08:30] <GFDL> no man no idea I just copy/paste the thingie
[08:30] <idefix> :)
[08:30] <GFDL> 
[08:30] <idefix> 
[08:31] <idefix> heh
[08:31] <jc-denton> if i install ubuntu on a dual core pentium
[08:31] <idefix> so  is not a japanese sign, but merely a smiley
[08:31] <nickrud> grout58: hi
[08:31] <Scorchsaber> LinuxJones: I'm pretty sure that the Nvidia card problem is a hardware problem.
[08:31] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, hi
[08:31] <jc-denton> will i be able to take advantage of it?
[08:31] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, what kind of card is it ?
[08:31] <thouters> Hi, are there Ubuntu/powerpc users here I can have a litle chat with?
[08:31] <Scorchsaber> GeForce 5200 FX
[08:32] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, I have one of those and never had any real problems with it
[08:32] <Scorchsaber> Yeah, but, well, I'm not exactly the most delicate person
[08:33] <Scorchsaber> LinuxJones: Is there anything special I have to do involving configuration when I put my ATI card back in?
[08:33] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, :)
[08:33] <LinuxJones> Scorchsaber, I have never used an ati card but I'm sure someone here can help you
[08:33] <NapoleonBC> I have a question about NDISWRAPPER
[08:33] <my_true_hero> could anyone point me to directions on how I can map a linux directory to a folder that is being shared on an OS X machine on my local network? I tried searching for this, but could not find what I needed
[08:33] <litb> what does 'universe' mean?
[08:33] <jc-denton> i mean for dual core i need to enable multi processoring support in the kernel
[08:34] <nickrud> !tell litb about components
[08:34] <NapoleonBC> does anyone know if ubuntu comes with a wifi scanner that works with NDISWRAPPER
[08:34] <jc-denton> does this works out of the box or do i have to compile it myself?
[08:34] <LinuxJones> my_true_hero, something like samba ?
[08:34] <nickrud> litb: read that link, it'll give you an overview of all of the repos
[08:34] <NegativeSpace> Other than mplayer, what's a decent media player that I can install?
[08:34] <litb> thxx
[08:34] <GFDL> NegativeSpace, xine
[08:34] <thouters> NegativeSpace: totem?
[08:34] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: I use xine-ui package to watch dvd's
[08:34] <litb> NegativeSpace: xine
[08:34] <GFDL> totem is not decent
[08:34] <my_true_hero> LinuxJones: I'm not sure... it sounds familiar, but I'm very new to all of this
[08:34] <thouters> NegativeSpace: and, vlc
[08:34] <LinuxJones> NapoleonBC, what kind of card do you have ?
[08:34] <NegativeSpace> thouters Totem doesn't wanna let me play DVDs.
[08:34] <NapoleonBC> Buffalo
[08:34] <NegativeSpace> Okay guys, cheers.
[08:35] <LinuxJones> my_true_hero, give me 1 sec
[08:35] <litb> NegativeSpace: gxine
[08:35] <kaha> Any tips on a repository for Gimp 2.3x debs?
[08:35] <thinkle> idefix, GFDL: Control-Shift 263A ->  Control-Shift 263B -> ... I still don't like those as well as your smiley though.
[08:35] <thouters> NegativeSpace: I'm sure I did do that once, maybe not in ubuntu
[08:35] <Scorchsaber> hey guys, I reinstalled Ubuntu with an Nvidia card inside, however, it's not working, and I'd like to put in my ATI card. However, I don't know if I need to edit any configuration files or anything.
[08:36] <guy44600> slt
[08:36] <cello_rasp> hi, is anyone able to load drawball.com with breezy's firefox (and the universe flash plugin?)
[08:36] <GFDL> Scorchsaber, at least you need to change your xorg.conf file
[08:36] <nickrud> Scorchsaber: just slap it in, reboot and (after X fails) log into a consle and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <GFDL> Scorchsaber, to change the driver name to the ATI one
[08:36] <LinuxJones> my_true_hero, here's a samba link, once it's setup you should be able to share a folder with mac >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[08:36] <Scorchsaber> what is te ATI driver...?
[08:36] <GFDL> just follow nickrud suggestion
[08:37] <Scorchsaber> oh, ok. Thanks
[08:37] <Scorchsaber> thanks nickrud
[08:37] <NegativeSpace> Okay, maybe I'll try and get Totem working first: any idea what "Unexpected error status 8192 while mounting /media/cdrom0" means and how I can fix it?
[08:37] <nickrud> Scorchsaber: np. You've had a bad day. I hope it gets better 
[08:37] <my_true_hero> LinuxJones: Awesome, thanks so much.
[08:38] <matthew> what's the equivalent to Itunes for linux?
[08:38] <jke> matthew: try rythmbox, amarok or something like them :)
[08:38] <IdleOne> how do I take a screenshot with xfce?
[08:38] <cello_rasp> matthew: rhythmbox
[08:39] <thinkle> cello_rasp, I can load drawball.com with breezy + automatix-supplied-flash.
[08:39] <thouters> matthew: banshee's another good player
[08:39] <thouters> IdleOne: import -w root file.png
[08:39] <cello_rasp> anything except gnupod :|
[08:39] <szapi> Hi everyone! Have you ever used an ATI 9800SE card on an Intel 45GV chipset motherboard under ubuntu?
[08:39] <cello_rasp> thx thinkle
[08:39] <matthew> and will those play regular mp3's?
[08:39] <GFDL> matthew, mpg123
[08:39] <kenny> yo
[08:39] <greatgazoo> Hi all, How do I get the Debian menu in Openbox?
[08:39] <GFDL> matthew, sure
[08:39] <jke> IdleOne: call gnome-screenshot :)
[08:39] <thouters> matthew: provided you have codecs installed
[08:39] <thinkle> matthew, The mp3 issue is separate from the player you have loaded.
[08:40] <kenny> hey guess what the new updates for Windows Xp, are crashing systems
[08:40] <NegativeSpace> Any idea what "Unexpected error status 8192 while mounting /media/cdrom0" means when trying to run a DVD in Totem and how I can fix it?
[08:40] <IdleOne> jke>  thanks dude :)
[08:41] <matthew> oh i need codecs installed
[08:41] <IdleOne> thouters>  thank you  also
[08:41] <greatgazoo> Hi all, How do I get the Debian menu in Openbox?
[08:41] <kenny> gosh guys, I'm bored
[08:41] <nickrud> greatgazoo: If things haven't changed, install menu
[08:42] <greatgazoo> nickrud:  I made sure that it was installed and it appears in the menu.xml
[08:43] <pilly> is it possible to have a nvidia card (mx4000) in multihead mode allow icons/windows to be dragged across screens? I really don't care for the whole xinerama large desktop as my tv is "leftof" main monitor and windows default to this screen I'll send my xorg.conf if needed
[08:43] <nickrud> greatgazoo: you could try running update-menus (and I've reached about my limit in remembering debian's menu structure)
[08:43] <Makura> is it possible to run .bat files in linux?
[08:44] <nickrud> greatgazoo: also, install menu-xdg (may or may not help)
[08:44] <litb> does ubuntu have xine with wmv support ?
[08:44] <GFDL> Makura, why do you want to do such a thing!?
[08:44] <greatgazoo> nickrud: Thx, I really appreciate the help. I'll try that.
[08:44] <nico8481> re
[08:44] <nickrud> Makura: not windows .bat files (snicker ;)
[08:44] <Makura> GFDL: Why, is it bad?
[08:44] <litb> and all the common kinds of supported codecs, such as ffmpeg and win32dll ?
[08:44] <Makura> nickrud: Alright, just checking
[08:44] <GFDL> Makura, bad?
[08:45] <pilly> shell script are better than bats
[08:45] <Stormx2> How would i limit my connection speed in ubuntu?
[08:45] <GFDL> bad is not the right word
[08:45] <crouchingMonkey> i need some help with my repositories, i added them but they are not enabled
[08:45] <IdleOne> !tell litb about restrictedformats
[08:45] <crouchingMonkey> i did sudo apt-get update but still no luck
[08:45] <Makura> nickrud: How would I launch a game with special parameters?
[08:45] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: pastebin your sources.list
[08:45] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a paste bin?
[08:46] <pilly> anyone have skills with nvidia and xorg?
[08:46] <FirstLite> Hi, does anyone know if there's a way to eject PCMCIA cards using a user-friendly GUI (i.e. not cardctl) in hoary or breezy?  Is cardinfo in the GNOME menu, or is there a special Ubuntu tool?  Thanks
[08:46] <nickrud> Makura: in a terminal, you'd type the program name and follow that with the parameters
[08:46] <pilly> just need a minor tweak...
[08:46] <pdavid> what do you need ,pilly
[08:46] <Tutankamon> skype its sounds like robocop
[08:46] <Tutankamon> :(
[08:46] <greatgazoo> nickrud: Thx, update-menus worked!!
[08:46] <pilly> then my pvr is done!!
[08:46] <pdavid> pilly, what do you need?
[08:46] <Makura> nickrud: Okay, I hope the ones I need work =p
[08:46] <szapi> I need someone with ATI and Xorg :(((
[08:46] <xukun> what do I need to download files and articles from usenet in ubuntu?
[08:46] <pilly> ati good luck
[08:46] <crouchingMonkey> what is the pastebin address nickrud ?
[08:47] <polpak> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:47] <godfathr> anybody use corner xmms in ubuntu with gdesklets?
[08:47] <pilly> I have a mepis machine with a 9250 in it .... chipset is useless in linux
[08:47] <pdavid> so what does this have to do with nvidia and xorg?
[08:47] <godfathr> i'm getting a script error.. cannot find control
[08:47] <SpookyET> hi, can anyone tell me how to change the virtual terminal resolution to the same resolution x is running on, 1680x1050?
[08:47] <pilly> nononono
[08:48] <rukuartic> SpookyET: All ya gotta do is add a line in grub... you use grub?
[08:48] <xukun> anybody?
[08:48] <GFDL> szapi, I use ATI Radeon Express 200M (tm) with xorg
[08:48] <pilly> my pvr has ubuntu 5.10 with nvidia mx 4000
[08:48] <deemo> hello everyone, im having a bit of trouble with my network interfaces. none of my interfaces start up (eth0 and eth1) and i have no idea why. they were working find yesterday and they work fine on the liveCD so i know its a configuration problem
[08:48] <nickrud> xukun: pan is popular
[08:48] <xukun> nickrud, thanks
[08:48] <pdavid> pilly: your question was something to do with xorg and nvidia, so what, exactly, is your question?
[08:48] <nickrud> xukun: also, thunderbird can do it
[08:49] <pilly> pdavid: I need multihead mode but to be able to drag icons/indows across
[08:49] <crouchingMonkey> Stormx2, or nickrud  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10085
[08:49] <nickrud> !xinerama
[08:49] <ubotu> somebody said xinerama was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[08:49] <rukuartic> SpookyET: Find one of your boots and append vga=XXX to kernel
[08:49] <pdavid> pilly: have you looked at xinerama?
[08:49] <nickrud> pilly: ubotu above
[08:49] <SpookyET> rukuartic: Yes, I do.  But there has to be a command that i can give it too.  When I installed Ubuntu, 1680x1050 was not in the list, and so, I choose 1450x1050.
[08:50] <rukuartic> SpookyET: Ooh, you mean, change it dynamically? :P I have no clue
[08:50] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: Which ones did you add?
[08:50] <nico8481> what's gstreamer actually? should one install the gstreamer- or the xine- versions or totem and such stuff?
[08:50] <crouchingMonkey> Stormx2, all of them
[08:50] <nico8481> "...of totem..."
[08:50] <crouchingMonkey> i got every single box checked
[08:50] <Scorchsaber> okay, something I've always wanted to know--How do I restart from the command line?
[08:50] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: o.O and when you launch synaptic, you still get the same as before?
[08:50] <bimberi> deemo: does the file /etc/network/interfaces have a line like 'auto eth0' in it?
[08:50] <pilly> pdavid: I don't care for the streched desktop and my tv is "leftof" and windows icons default to this monitor
[08:51] <bimberi> Scorchsaber: sudo reboot
[08:51] <Scorchsaber> thanks
[08:51] <jeff_hann> scorchsaber:telinit 6
[08:51] <crouchingMonkey> Stormx2, of course
[08:51] <SpookyET> rukuartic: menu.lst? is that what I edit in grub?
[08:51] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: you're missing a line: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:51] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: sudo apt-get update gives you no errors? >.>
[08:51] <rukuartic> SpookyET: Go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and scroll down to find the option that you boot with
[08:51] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: also, you might want to comment out the cdrom line (put a # at the beginning)
[08:51] <pdavid> pilly: if you want multihead mode where you have the ability to drag windows across screens, the easiest path is to use xinerama
[08:52] <crouchingMonkey> Stormx2, yes it does when i try to install mplayer-586
[08:52] <swim> wow the quodlibet version for breezy is really old... and I am having too many issues compiling the latest one... any ideas?
[08:52] <rukuartic> SpookyET: Its probably close to the bottom, after "## ## End default Options ##"
[08:52] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: But when actually running sudo apt-get update <-- that command gives no errors?
[08:52] <pdavid> pilly: you can change the parameters of which desktop is the primary/default one, and what gets put where
[08:52] <SpookyET> VGA=1680x1050?
[08:52] <rukuartic> SpookyET: No... Um, I don't know a list of vga values...
[08:53] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: whups, change the dapper in that line to breezy
[08:53] <deemo> bimberi, no it does not. It has auto lo, but no auto eth1
[08:53] <pilly> pdavid: could you point me to the docs for this?
[08:53] <rukuartic> SpookyET: My kernel line ends with vga=791
[08:53] <pdavid> !xinerama
[08:53] <ubotu> somebody said xinerama was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[08:53] <rukuartic> nickrud: Do you know a list of vga values for the menu.lst in grub?
[08:53] <SpookyET> i got 0x345
[08:53] <Scorchsaber> thanks guys
[08:53] <pilly> pdavid: or can I send you my xorg.conf?
[08:53] <nico8481> !tell nico8481 mp3
[08:53] <rukuartic> SpookyET: Drop you menu.lst to pastebin real quick
[08:53] <nico8481> !tell nico8481 codecs
[08:53] <nickrud> rukuartic: there's a nice chart somewhere on the net, I'll see if I can find it
[08:53] <crouchingMonkey> no errors when i run sudo apt-get update Stormx2
[08:54] <pdavid> pilly: first try the link ubotu put up
[08:54] <rukuartic> nico8481: /msg ubotu tell me about codecs
[08:54] <pdavid> if there are still problems, come back with your xorg.conf and we'll figure it out
[08:54] <pilly> pdavid: ok
[08:54] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: Dunno. Follow nickrud's advice... also check out easysource
[08:54] <nico8481> ah :) thx :)
[08:54] <godfathr> what do you guys get when trying sudo apt-get -s install pyxmms ?
[08:54] <Stormx2> !easysource
[08:54] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:54] <bimberi> deemo: ok, such a line brings the interface up at boot time, try adding one (separate 'auto' line for each interface you want to start)
[08:54] <pilly> pdavid: thanks
[08:54] <Tigger_> Hello there, i have DNS problem, can anyone help me ?
[08:54] <godfathr> i don't see pyxmms, but i do see pyxmms-remote
[08:54] <pdavid> pilly: my pleasure!
[08:54] <godfathr> a different package
[08:54] <swim> anyone please?
[08:54] <Stormx2> Tigger_: Whats the problem?
[08:55] <SpookyET> rukuartic: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wY0rsi62.html
[08:55] <SpookyET> This is how openbsd does it dynamically http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#80x50
[08:55] <Stormx2> swim: No idea, what is quotlibet?
[08:55] <deemo> bimberi, ok i did that but its still not working
[08:55] <Tigger_> i cannot resolve from the terminal unless i add the address manually in the /etc/hosts file, what is the problem? although i can surf the web without problems!
[08:55] <swim> its a music app
[08:55] <a-dam> anyone know how to install Freenet on Ubuntu?
[08:56] <swim> is anyone even using breezy anymore ?!
[08:56] <nickrud> rukuartic: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer , about half way down
[08:56] <nico8481> can someone explain about gstreamer? what's its purpose? and why do most people replace "gstreamer versions" of media-playing software by "xine versions"?
[08:56] <rukuartic> SpookyET: This isn't open bsd :P on line 122, change vga=0x345 to vga=791
[08:56] <Stormx2> swim: Most people
[08:56] <vars> hey i am trying to install win2k with vmplayer  it has worked so far but i'm having a hellofatime  getting the graphics driver to work, is there anything i can do for this?
[08:57] <SpookyET> what will 791 give me?
[08:57] <rukuartic> SpookyET: That link nickrud just dropped has a few more options in it too
[08:57] <crouchingMonkey> how do i add deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted to the sources list Stormx2 ?
[08:57] <godfathr> somone help me pyxmms
[08:57] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:57] <GFDL> nico8481, because gstreamer versions are bloated and buggy? mplayer works fine out of the box
[08:57] <Tigger_> Stormx2: any idea ?
[08:57] <Stormx2> then add it at the end, save, and exit
[08:57] <Stormx2> Tigger_: Nope, sorry
[08:57] <rukuartic> SpookyET: 1024x768
[08:58] <Tigger_> can anyone help me in the DNS problem please ?
[08:58] <nico8481> GFDL, yeah but what is it exactly? what do "normal" versions of totem&such seem to use it?
[08:58] <rukuartic> SpookyET: http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub%20configure%20examples?version=5 try looking here :)
[08:58] <Stormx2> Someone help Tigger_, I have no idea with DNS ^.^
[08:58] <nico8481> GFDL, i mean they seem to *need* it
[08:58] <SpookyET> rukuartic: I got 1450x1050 in there currently
[08:58] <GFDL> nico8481, yes they depend on them to handle the video and sound streams, the core functionality is given by the gstreamer framework
[08:58] <bimberi> deemo: hm, ok, there might be other issues with your interfaces file.  Does everything in System -> Administration -> Networking look OK?
[08:59] <SpookyET> reading..
[08:59] <SpookyET> thanks for the help
[08:59] <rukuartic> say No problem :)
[08:59] <nico8481> GFDL, yup but if i install -xine versions i can remove totally all gstreamer-related stuff from my system isn't it?
[08:59] <scorchsaber> Hey, uh... I can't remember the locations of the kubuntu repositories
[08:59] <rukuartic> scorchsaber: join #kubuntu
[09:00] <khafra> I quit cedega, and the speaker keeps playing the last half-second of sound
[09:00] <Tigger_> anyone can help me in the DNS issue please ???
[09:00] <deemo> bimberi, no, the two interfaces are disabled and when i click to enable them, the checkmark pops up for a second, then gets disabled again
[09:00] <scorchsaber> ok
[09:00] <khafra> How do I reset the sound, or make it stop, or whatever?
[09:00] <bimberi> godfathr: python-xmms ??
[09:00] <khafra> I mean, in ubuntu, how do I stop and start the sound, which is what I'm guessing will fix it?
[09:00] <GFDL> nico8481, if you mean a totem version without any gstreamer I haven't used such thing, probably it works
[09:00] <nico8481> cause i just upgraded my system from 5.04 to 5.10 and for some reason, after the upgrade totem was no longer there, and after an apt-get install totem i can't get it to output any sound (although it seems to start playing the file, i mean the progress bar of the song is moving and all)
[09:00] <whiter> how can i search for installed packages with dpkg -l
[09:01] <jke> somebody using ndiswrapper?
[09:01] <khafra> In other words, how do I stop the sound driver and restart it, in ubuntu?
[09:01] <pestilence> does anybody know the syntax for rdiff-backup, how does one exclude any file matching "cache"?  is it --exclude "**cache**" ?
[09:01] <whiter> like im looking for a specific program but it lists them all too fast
[09:01] <nickrud> whiter: dpkg -l <searchstring>
[09:01] <tolstoy>  Folks, how do I tell dapper I'm an american-english speaker, not british?  The language selector thing says American, but my gnome-terminal (and LANG setting) thinks British.  Is there a package I can dpkg-reconfigure?
[09:01] <rukuartic> jke: A lot of us are. I am :)
[09:01] <nico8481> GFDL, i dunno actually whether i need it or not... i'm just wondering why totem doesn't work anymore (see a few lines up)
[09:01] <godfathr> bimberi: i thinkt hat's differentt than pyxmms
[09:01] <GFDL> nico8481, uninstall totem, use xine or mplayer and be happy. I know some folks use totem and are happy with it, but the amount of bugs and angry users tell another story
[09:01] <godfathr> bimberi: pyxmms latest version is like 2.06 or something
[09:01] <bimberi> godfathr: kk :|
[09:01] <khafra> Whoah.  It stopped.  Thanks, whoever hacked my machine and fixed it
[09:01] <rukuartic> whiter: dpkg -l | grep <name>
[09:02] <rukuartic> whiter: the | grep <name> searches the output for whatever you put in there :)
[09:02] <nico8481> GFDL, well i've always be pleased about it before the upgrade :)
[09:02] <jke> rukuartic: asked in the rong channel, sry
[09:02] <rukuartic> jke: Naw... you can ask here O_o
[09:02] <crouchingMonkey> thank you so much Stormx2  and nickrud i finally got it to work :)
[09:03] <rukuartic> jke: Oh XD never mind ;P
[09:03] <GFDL> nico8481, now you hit your first totem bug :(
[09:03] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: good 
[09:03] <Stormx2> crouchingMonkey: Horray!
[09:03] <bimberi> deemo: i don't know what causes that sorry.  It could be a misconfigured interfaces file.  I can pastebin mine for comparison if you like
[09:03] <godfathr> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/python/python-xmms
[09:03] <landonf> Anyone run into the Thunderbird "An error occured while creating a message compose window. Please try again." error in Dapper?
[09:03] <jke> rukartic: heh, okay, but it on a gentoo machine
[09:03] <whiter> thank you ruki
[09:03] <whiter> ruku*
[09:03] <Stormx2> Someone help Tigger_!!
[09:03] <godfathr> "This package does not containt PyXMMS itself"
[09:03] <nickrud> GFDL: most people who like totem are using totem-xine
[09:03] <rukuartic> landonf: #ubuntu+1
[09:03] <deemo> bimberi, dont worry about it, ill figure it out
[09:03] <rukuartic> whiter: No problem :)
[09:03] <Stormx2> godfathr: XMMS is outdated :P
[09:03] <landonf> Ah. I missed it in the 5 mile long topic.
[09:04] <godfathr> Stormx2: that doesn't help :)
[09:04] <bimberi> deemo: kk :/
[09:04] <KenSentMe> does anyone know how i can really test if my 3d acceleration works without having to install a huge 3d game
[09:04] <Stormx2> godfathr: So use an xmms-like app :P
[09:04] <GFDL> nickrud,  you are right because the absent dependency on the gstreamer nightmare
[09:04] <nico8481> GFDL, uuh ok... shame on me actually... my speakers were off ^_^;
[09:04] <KenSentMe> is there a small 3d-game or something
[09:04] <nickrud> GFDL: nico8481 has cleared it up nicely
[09:05] <Tigger_> Stormx2: it seems that no one has the DNS expertise here, thanks anyway
[09:05] <GFDL> nice for you!
[09:05] <nico8481> otherwise it works :-)
[09:05] <Stormx2> One last call, someone help Tigger_! Someone who knows about DNS!
[09:05] <darkfires> what's the problem
[09:05] <virgule> hey guys what is the switch to restore a user account? "adduser -? virgule" so it will recycle the home dir
[09:05] <Stormx2> nickrud: xD
[09:05] <darkfires> fuck I am getting so sick of debian
[09:06] <jenda> Tigger_: did you try ##networking ?
[09:06] <darkfires> They should rename debian to SLACKIAN
[09:06] <darkfires> and BROKIAN
[09:06] <Tigger_> no
[09:06] <Stormx2> darkfires: Why? :P
[09:06] <godfathr> stormx2: that doesn't help either
[09:06] <darkfires> Because debian takes forever to update anything and they do a shitty job of it
[09:06] <darkfires> shit's always broken
[09:06] <virgule> hey guys what is the switch to restore a user account? "adduser -? virgule" so it will recycle the home dir
[09:07] <jenda> darkfires: That means Ian would have to divorce and get a new wife by the name of Slacktatia or Broketta
[09:07] <luisito> hello
[09:07] <Tigger_> jenda: i am trying now
[09:07] <darkfires> you mean he called it debian because his wife's name is debbie ?
[09:07] <jenda> good luck, Tigger_
[09:07] <GFDL> darkfires, feel free to contribute to make the updates faster
[09:07] <darkfires> deb + ian ?
[09:07] <luisito> can I convert windows cursors to X11 cursors?
[09:07] <Tigger_> thanks jenda
[09:07] <smo> partially.  and partially because his name's ian :)
[09:07] <jenda> darkfires: yup :)
[09:07] <virgule> hey guys what is the switch to restore a user account? "adduser -? virgule" so it will recycle the home dir pleeease :)
[09:07] <darkfires> thats kinda funny
[09:07] <bimberi> nickrud: good idea :P
[09:08] <darkfires> GFDL: or I could just switch to a real distro, ie ubuntu ?
[09:08] <nico8481> nickrud, do you know if i still need to keep gstreamer stuff if i use totem-xine?
[09:08] <nico8481> nickrud, (for other apps maybe?)
[09:08] <GFDL> darkfires, you can do whatever you please
[09:08] <nickrud> bimberi: 50 times bitten, I've learned
[09:08] <pestilence> virgule, man adduser ?
[09:08] <emo_> I'm struggling to install to install limiwire any help...
[09:08] <KenSentMe> does anyone know how i can really test if my 3d acceleration works without having to install a huge 3d game
[09:08] <emo_> I'm limewire..
[09:08] <darkfires> emo_ why would you want to install limewire anyway, it sucks...use amule  :)
[09:08] <pestilence> virgule, --home DIR
[09:08] <nickrud> nico8481: yes, for rhythmbox, other things.
[09:09] <virgule> pestilence: I can't read these man pages.. not helpful to me ;)
[09:09] <darkfires> KenSentMe glxgears
[09:09] <pestilence> virgule, why not?
[09:09] <emo_> darkfires:very very slowly...
[09:09] <virgule> its too technical for me.. it sound like they wrote these for  rocket scientists or something
[09:09] <emo_> darkfires:take me ages...always...
[09:09] <nico8481> nickrud, k thx
[09:09] <darkfires> emo_ on amule ?
[09:10] <emo_> darkfires:yeah....
[09:10] <darkfires> emo_: do you have your ports setup properly?
[09:10] <jenda> KenSentMe: glgears --printfps, I think
[09:10] <pestilence> virgule, the more of them you look at, the more logical they become.  and then you won't have any problems.
[09:10] <nico8481> nickrud, actually i think the totem that's installed now is the "normal" one, not the -xine one... and it seems to work, although i see movies in black and white
[09:10] <GFDL> lol
[09:11] <KenSentMe> darkfires, jenda thanx
[09:11] <virgule> I shall persevere (never give up :)) thanks you.. it seam to work.. the switch, i think, is -d
[09:11] <tray> hi. what should i enter when the ubuntu install starts? it prompts for network info. it displays my temporary adsl ip address for hostname and then gives some dslaccess.co.uk address for my domain. i gather both are taken from my adsl modem that is connected by an ethernet card. do i edit these entries to my own choosing or leave them? i am using a standalone machine.
[09:11] <nickrud> nico8481: I don't think I've run totem-gstreamer , except once
[09:11] <KenSentMe> when i see the gears it means 3d works?
[09:11] <emo_> darkfires:actually I didn't touch them...was running all right...but I don't know what's going on now...
[09:11] <darkfires> KenSentMe how many fps are you getting
[09:11] <jenda> KenSentMe: what numbers does it show?
[09:11] <jenda> KenSentMe: you need the --printfps flag.
[09:12] <darkfires> jenda, glxgears prints fps for me without specifying the flasg
[09:12] <darkfires> flag
[09:12] <godfathr> how can i enhance my vnc performance..
[09:12] <godfathr> my screen doesn't draw / update itself.. vncviewer on winxp
[09:12] <jenda> darkfires: not in breezy
[09:12] <darkfires> jenda, oh right, sorry
[09:12] <GFDL> godfathr, man vnc is slow...
[09:12] <godfathr> i have to move windows around to see their contents
[09:12] <jenda> np
[09:12] <emo_> darkfires:any idea...?
[09:12] <pestilence> tray, you can do either, it's your choice
[09:12] <godfathr> i'd just be happy if it drew itself correctly
[09:12] <KenSentMe> jenda, --printfps is a unknown parameter
[09:13] <jenda> KenSentMe: j'sec...
[09:13] <remavalu> hi
[09:13] <remavalu> one question please
[09:13] <darkfires> emo_: u have to make sure you have incoming 4662 and 4672, also make sure ur using latest amule, 2.1
[09:13] <pestilence> tray, if i were you, i'd give it my own name (not the dynamic name assigned by your isp)
[09:13] <darkfires> 4662 tcp 4672 udp
[09:13] <remavalu> I've tried to install qt-X11
[09:13] <darkfires> emo_ also make sure you pick files that have lots of sources
[09:13] <darkfires> emo_ otherwise you will never get or take weeks to get the file
[09:14] <remavalu> but i haven't xlibs & shell told me
[09:14] <tray> pestilence, thanks. for both? or just for the localhost name?
[09:14] <remavalu> how can I install xlib?
[09:14] <taoscotch> anybody here knows about usb memory/pen memory sticks
[09:14] <Edgan> taoscotch: what of them?
[09:14] <GFDL> taoscotch, just ask, maybe somebody knows
[09:14] <godfathr> is it okay to enable the backport sources?
[09:14] <emo_> darkfires:well I even reinstall again but still the same thing...
[09:15] <taoscotch> Edgan : hi, my ubuntu is not able to see them.
[09:15] <pestilence> tray, yea, just enter whatever you want.  if you aren't running a server it won't make much of a difference.  the hostname is the most important one, you shouldn't change the domain
[09:15] <vars> remavalu, apt-get install xlib
[09:15] <vars> sudo
[09:15] <taoscotch> Edgan : but it recognizes a ps2 to usb for my laptop
[09:15] <darkfires> emo_: check and make sure your ports are working
[09:15] <Edgan> taoscotch: you using usb ports on the back panel with the ps2 connectors or others?
[09:15] <Alapzaj> hy! i have a big problem, i installed a open-source ati driver , and x crased completly! How can i reinstall x and xorg completly. I tryed apt-get install reinstall x-server-xorg but apt doesn't can remove fireglrx driver! pls help me
[09:16] <taoscotch> Edgan : yes i have a laptop and i use the mouse and keyboard on one of the usb ports which works fine. but when i use the memory stick on another port it doesn't recognize.
[09:16] <emo_> darkfires:have you got any experience wiht limewire?
[09:16] <pestilence> Alapzaj, what error does it give when you try to uninstall fireglrx
[09:16] <Edgan> taoscotch: ah, it is a laptop
[09:16] <Edgan> taoscotch: breezy?
[09:16] <godfathr> !info backports
[09:16] <offby1> I feel like upgrading my "Breezy Badger" system to "Dapper".  Is there anything more to it than simply changing the word "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then running "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade" ?
[09:16] <taoscotch> Edgan : ys
[09:17] <gilianima> "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled." says totem on dapper
[09:17] <Edgan> taoscotch: you tried swapping the mouse and flash drive?
[09:17] <rukuartic> Would anyone know how to start from a base system (eg just linux and drivers) and move all the way to XOrg and Gnome?
[09:17] <pestilence> offby1, that should do it.
[09:17] <darkfires> emo_: yes, enough to realize that it's pretty useless for finding anything besides music and the latest versions of limewire have search filtering so you can't download copyrighted shit
[09:17] <gilianima> (when i try to read a mp3)
[09:17] <offby1> pestilence: thanks
[09:17] <jenda> KenSentMe: glxgears -printfps
[09:17] <pestilence> offby1, you might want to make sure you have ubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <Alapzaj> pestilence: fireglx addiction xserver-xorg
[09:17] <jenda> KenSentMe: only one dash :)
[09:17] <pestilence> offby1, or possibly kubuntu-desktop :)
[09:17] <offby1> pestilence: whY?  I'm a ratpoison guy :-)
[09:17] <pestilence> offby1, oh, so forget about it
[09:17] <Alapzaj> and i can't remove xserver-xorg
[09:18] <emo_> darkfires:all right....cheers...
[09:18] <taoscotch> Edgan : yes i tried that. i have another computer a desktop with windows on it.. the memory was working on it till yesterday. this is the first time i used it one linux/ubuntu
[09:18] <pestilence> Alapzaj, that's not an error... what is the error it gives you
[09:18] <KenSentMe> jenda, 23760 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4751.967 FPS
[09:18] <jenda> KenSentMe: better than mine :)
[09:18] <Edgan> taoscotch: so swapping the mouse and flash drive didn't help?
[09:18] <KenSentMe> then i hope i can install enemy territory etc
[09:18] <GFDL> what do the kernel logs say?
[09:18] <darkfires> KenSentMe wow i would say your 3d accel works awesome
[09:18] <darkfires> i get like 2800fps
[09:18] <taoscotch> Edgan : no that didn't work ...
[09:18] <emo_> darkfires:I gonna see what's goig on with my aMule.....
[09:19] <GFDL> if something goes wrong the kernel will log it
[09:19] <Alapzaj> i read in /var/log/x.log (EE) pci module can't load
[09:19] <Edgan> taoscotch: what does dmesg have to say about it?
[09:19] <darkfires> emo_ do you have a router?
[09:19] <KenSentMe> darkfires, i only have a radeon 9800
[09:19] <KenSentMe> pro
[09:19] <jr0> hi, can anyone tell me where "swapon" is run at startup?
[09:19] <darkfires> KenSentMe i have a geforce 4 4400
[09:19] <pestilence> Alapzaj, no, the error when you try to reinstall the xserver
[09:19] <dhesryhsew> .: AdultMeetingPlace:.         http://s2.1-2-free-forums.com     wannabe a moderator for the new forum?
[09:19] <pestilence> Alapzaj, you said it can't remove a package
[09:19] <Edgan> jr0: my first guess would be rc.sysinit
[09:19] <ReWT_> Is Serpentine always pretty slow?
[09:19] <jr0> ok..
[09:19] <emo_> darkfires:I do but also doesn't work properly...:(
[09:19] <Overand> GFDL: that assumes that what went wrong wasn't your IDE driver/etc
[09:20] <Alapzaj> pestilence: ok just a minute i watch the error message
[09:20] <Overand> =] 
[09:20] <Edgan> jr0: try, grep -r -i swap /etc/rc.d/*
[09:20] <offby1> off we go!
[09:20] <darkfires> emo_: that would most likely be part of the reason why your emule sucks... make sure your router has the latest firmware and that ports 4662/tcp and 4672/udp are forwarded to the computer that you're trying to use emule on
[09:20] <emo_> darkfires:is a shit evething happen at the same time....
[09:20] <emo_> darkfires:I hate that...
[09:21] <darkfires> emo_: what kind of router do you have?
[09:21] <GFDL> Overand, why? usb sticks (at least mine) gets recogized by the usb mass storage driver, when something fails i see it in /var/log/messages
[09:21] <GFDL> s/recogized/recognized
[09:21] <thomas`> is there a disk cleanup in ubuntu? to clean any unneccasary files? kindalike windows disk cleanup. i
[09:21] <taoscotch> Edgan : at two different places in dmesg it says usb driver registered and loaded but none of them is the memory
[09:21] <emo_> darkfires:is from my housemate I thing is cisco...something...
[09:21] <godfathr> simple question: I just enabled backports binary and source repos in synaptic.. it now finds 20 upgraded programs.. is it a problem to update?
[09:21] <remavalu> who has never installed qt-x11?
[09:22] <pestilence> !anybody
[09:22] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[09:22] <darkfires> emo_: ah... you will have to talk to him then and get the ports forwarded
[09:22] <Edgan> taoscotch: try modprobe usb-storage
[09:22] <jke> okay... i have made an ndiswrapper -i <inf>, but what now?
[09:22] <emo_> darkfires:I gave up I'm on the cable already....
[09:22] <root____> re
[09:22] <pestilence> jke, modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:23] <Rusty_Trombone> ok
[09:23] <darkfires> emo_: oh, so you're directly on the internet now ?
[09:23] <Rusty_Trombone> maybe this will get more responses.
[09:23] <emo_> darkfires:so is not the router...
[09:23] <p0mppu> is it part of the Ubuntu-thing that my console is located a bit too much left so part of the content is outside my screen?
[09:23] <darkfires> emo_ do you have amule running right now ?
[09:23] <Rusty_Trombone> simple question: I just enabled backports binary and source repos in synaptic.. it now finds 20 upgraded programs.. is it a problem to update?
[09:23] <toko123> greetings
[09:23] <p0mppu> X is ok, but console isn't :)
[09:23] <taoscotch> Edgan : ran modprobe usb-storage as a regular user.. said operation not permitted.
[09:24] <emo_> darkfires:no...but I can turn on....
[09:24] <freak4pc> Hey all
[09:24] <pestilence> p0mppu, that's possibly an adjustment to be made on your monitor
[09:24] <p0mppu> Rusty_Trombone: update and find out
[09:24] <darkfires> emo_ yeah turn it on
[09:24] <freak4pc> hello ?
[09:24] <freak4pc> =] 
[09:24] <taoscotch> Edgan : ran modprobe usb-storage as root says nothing all i see is the prompt...
[09:24] <p0mppu> pestilence: but wouldn't it affect the positioning in X too, if I altered it?
[09:24] <jr0> Edgan, thanks but I can't 'slocate' rc.sysinit anywhere...where is it??
[09:24] <Edgan> taoscotch: which is normal
[09:24] <Rusty_Trombone> is it a good or bad idea to enable backports?
[09:24] <freak4pc> i have a couple of questions... can anyone help me for a sec?
[09:24] <toko123> how do I make it so useres1 can't see user2 folder they both reside in /home
[09:24] <Edgan> taoscotch: try the flash drive now
[09:24] <pestilence> p0mppu, oh, so you mean it's cut off on the virtual terminals?
[09:24] <p0mppu> I mean, X is all right but when I switch to console, then the screen is suddenly on a wrong place
[09:24] <emo_> darkfires:done..
[09:24] <taoscotch> Edgan : how... i mean what do i do...
[09:24] <freak4pc> i have a couple of questions... can anyone help me for a sec? o.O
[09:24] <Edgan> jr0: normally /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, try, grep -r -i swap /etc/rc.d/*
[09:25] <pestilence> p0mppu, i would guess it's running at a different refresh rate on the VT's...
[09:25] <darkfires> emo_: i can't connect to your ip at all.... you will have to reconfigure your firewall
[09:25] <p0mppu> pestilence: surely, since I can get tv-out when in console, but not while in X :)
[09:25] <rukuartic> freak4pc: Just come on in and say yer question :P
[09:25] <p0mppu> which is another problem
[09:25] <jke> pestilence:  thanks... done now
[09:25] <freak4pc> im looking for a good photo editing software such as photoshop , for linux... do you think gIMP can do the work ?
[09:25] <rukuartic> freak4pc: Make sure y'describe everythin in detail
[09:25] <pestilence> p0mppu, some monitors can "remember" screen positions for different frequencies
[09:25] <gazanfer> hello. i have installed english files, but also i need to type some turkish-only characters. even though my keyboard layout and variant is set correctly, i can not use those characters.
[09:25] <darkfires> emo_: i can't even touch your ip at all...it's dropping all packets I send to it
[09:25] <swim> hi, what do you folks use for audio file management/play on Breezy?
[09:25] <rukuartic> freak4pc: gimp is great, gimpshop too
[09:25] <darkfires> emo_ so that would be your problem now, firewall
[09:25] <p0mppu> pestilence: is that so? hmm..never heard before..
[09:25] <emo_> darkfires:you wanna get on my machine you mean...?
[09:25] <freak4pc> gimpshop? what is that?
[09:25] <Xybernaut> hi, how i'm install kubuntu live cd from system ?
[09:25] <GFDL> swim, xterm
[09:25] <rukuartic> freak4pc: GIMP with a photoshop look/feel
[09:25] <root____> so the error message is "mismach on diver to when removing of diversion of /usr/lib/libgl.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversion/libgl.so.1.2 by fglrx-driver
[09:26] <freak4pc> sounds nice ill try it tomorrow
[09:26] <freak4pc> =] 
[09:26] <darkfires> emo_: I am just trying to connect to your computer like other emule clients would to transfer files, and your firewall is dropping the packets
[09:26] <freak4pc> im installing it for a server p3 ... i think it can run ubuntu
[09:26] <freak4pc> i hope
[09:26] <swim> ok, anyone else?
[09:26] <darkfires> I don't know where the config file for the firewall is on ubuntu though
[09:26] <freak4pc> is there any program for flash?
[09:26] <KenSentMe> jenda, darkfires woohoo, my first 3d game darwinia works!
[09:26] <Rusty_Trombone> damn.. vnc viewer is so gay
[09:26] <rukuartic> freak4pc: I'm on a p3 (1.2 ghz/256 mb ram) runs fine
[09:26] <darkfires> KenSentMe yay :D
[09:26] <Edgan> freak4pc: as in macromedia flash?
[09:26] <freak4pc> yeah .
[09:26] <gazanfer> can anyone help me with a keyboard/localization problem?
[09:26] <rukuartic> freak4pc: If you want a faster interface, use XFCE/blackbox
[09:26] <Tigger_> hello, does ubuntu has a firewall by default when installed ?
[09:26] <emo_> darkfires:I turn off if you tell me how....
[09:26] <Edgan> freak4pc: there is a plugin
[09:26] <jenda> KenSentMe: congrats
[09:26] <NetwrkMonkey> how do I add the terminal program shortcut to the "right click" menu in gnome when you right click on the desktop
[09:26] <p0mppu> pestilence: nope, just tried and it moves the screen in every terminal = in different freqs
[09:27] <freak4pc> does it actually generate SWF files
[09:27] <freak4pc> ?
[09:27] <p0mppu> any other ideas?
[09:27] <Edgan> freak4pc: no
[09:27] <freak4pc> ah ha ...
[09:27] <darkfires> emo_: well, you can try iptables -F as root, but that turns it totally off... but at least you could figure out if that's the problem
[09:27] <freak4pc> so it wont really help because i cant web use it...
[09:27] <p0mppu> Tigger_: iptables
[09:27] <alapzaj> so pre~ (sorry but i dont remember your name" what can i do?
[09:27] <pestilence> p0mppu, no, sorry.
[09:27] <freak4pc> ehm is there any package for installing a fuill server with apache and mysql?
[09:27] <freak4pc> or im just to install apache first , then mysql and php etc...?
[09:27] <emo_> darkfires:so hold on....
[09:27] <p0mppu> ok :/
[09:27] <alapzaj> oh pestilence sorry:D
[09:28] <pestilence> p0mppu, i'm not sure if you set the refresh in X to match the VT refresh if that would fix it
[09:28] <pestilence> alapzaj, ?
[09:28] <alapzaj> ja
[09:28] <Edgan> pestilence: what video card?
[09:28] <alapzaj> i have problem with ati driver
[09:28] <ssam> freak4pc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:28] <alapzaj> i can't remove fglrx driver
[09:28] <freak4pc> ssam, thanks very much ^___^
[09:28] <pestilence> Edgan, dunno, it's p0mppu's problem
[09:28] <remavalu> who has never install qt-x software?
[09:28] <Edgan> p0mppu: what video card?
[09:28] <pestilence> alapzaj, ok, and what's the error
[09:28] <alapzaj> so the error message is "mismach on diver to when removing of diversion of /usr/lib/libgl.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversion/libgl.so.1.2 by fglrx-driver
[09:28] <p0mppu> pestilence: the problem in that would be (I've tested) that then Windows is moved off the screen, as this is a dual-booting machine :) (and my girlfriend uses Windows, so I really can't delete it even if I wanted to)
[09:29] <p0mppu> Edgan: radeon 9200 se
[09:29] <Edgan> p0mppu: I have one of those. It should just work with X and the console.
[09:29] <pestilence> p0mppu, so you should just match settings between windows and ubuntu, then things won't have to be adjusted (match refresh + resolution)
[09:29] <andyjeffries> A really quick question.  What would be involved to get me from scratch a working XGL/Compiz-enabled Ubuntu installation?  I'm not a newbie to Linux, but I am to Ubuntu.  Is it really simple (a few steps) or is it an absolute arse?  I'm a current Gentoo user who'd love to have a full-on day-to-day play with XGL/Compiz but upgrading Gentoo to use it is a fricking nightmare.  TIA
[09:30] <simon__> hi could someone reccomend a link for a complete beginner to setup ltsp in Edubuntu cheers
[09:30] <pestilence> alapzaj, hrmm...
[09:30] <freak4pc> guyz last question , does compiling have a standard procedure or it changes in every case?
[09:30] <pestilence> alapzaj, how about "sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/libgl.so.1.2"
[09:31] <pestilence> alapzaj, then run the apt command again
[09:31] <p0mppu> pestilence: well how would I do that? Windows seems to place the screen into different place than Ubuntu, even when I do use the same frequencies/resolutions in both of them (as far as I know and if I assume Windows doesn't lie to me)
[09:31] <ssam> andyjeffries, some people find it fairly easy to install
[09:31] <p0mppu> which is something I don't quite understand :)
[09:31] <emo_> darkfires: I think is done...
[09:31] <ssam> andyjeffries, can be tricky if you need to get the nvidia drivers installed
[09:31] <pestilence> p0mppu, hrmm...so you can have the monitor confirm what the software is telling you about refresh/resolution
[09:31] <p0mppu> maybe I just have a black hole inside my monitor which makes the laws of physics a little curvy
[09:31] <darkfires> emo_: i still can't touch your IP at all.... is your computer plugged directly into the cable modem?
[09:32] <pestilence> p0mppu, it's in the OSD
[09:32] <andyjeffries> ssam: Are installing the nvidia drivers hard under Ubuntu then?
[09:32] <alapzaj> the same
[09:32] <freak4pc> guyz last question , does compiling have a standard procedure or it changes in every case?
[09:32] <taoscotch> Edgan : it is still not showing up in usbview
[09:32] <ssam> andyjeffries, i have never had to do it, i just use the opensource ati drivers :-)
[09:32] <p0mppu> pestilence: yes, of course the monitor shows the freqs when I push that "menu" button
[09:32] <emo_> darkfires: yeah but there are others machines as well, in the same modem...
[09:32] <pestilence> p0mppu, and they are the same in windows and ubuntu?
[09:33] <fit4lfe> !vnc
[09:33] <ubotu> vnc is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[09:33] <ssam> andyjeffries, but if you have an nvidia you need to install the binary drivers
[09:33] <p0mppu> at least they were last time I tried to set them
[09:33] <darkfires> emo_ so you're not going through a router then right
[09:33] <ssam> andyjeffries, have a look in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=111
[09:33] <darkfires> emo_ what is the IP of your ethernet carD?
[09:34] <p0mppu> well, it's kinda late so maybe I'll get back to this some other day.. thanks for your time this far :) video cards/monitors do produce a problem with linux, I've noticed
[09:34] <emo_> :yeah another one because the one which doesn't work is wireless...
[09:34] <pestilence> alapzaj, how about "sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq fglrx-driver"
[09:34] <andyjeffries> ssam: thanks for the pointer, reading now....
[09:34] <darkfires> emo_ u need to configure your router to forward the ports
[09:35] <ssam> andyjeffries, glad to help, good luck
[09:35] <Edgan> taoscotch: lsmod | grep storage
[09:35] <wentura> have any one problems with comp after dist-upgrade 5.04->5.10 ???
[09:35] <taoscotch> Edgan : do i have to change the /proc/bus/usb/device fiole
[09:35] <Edgan> taoscotch: shouldn't have to
[09:35] <ssam> wentura, what sort of problems
[09:35] <alapzaj> same
[09:35] <taoscotch> Edgan : usb_storage            64704  0
[09:35] <taoscotch> scsi_mod              124872  3 usb_storage,sr_mod,sbp2
[09:35] <taoscotch> usbcore               104316  5 usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:35] <taoscotch> ide_core              125268  5 usb_storage,ide_disk,ide_cd,ide_generic,piix
[09:36] <taoscotch> all : i m sorry
[09:36] <Edgan> taoscotch: ok, what does dmesg say
[09:36] <emo_> darkfires: Actually I haven't done anything they just gave the cable I sticked on my pc and that's it...
[09:36] <alapzaj> but this package called xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:36] <Nogimics> How can I change my password via SSH?
[09:36] <wentura> all is too slow, on 5.04 it was fine, but after upgrade something went wrong
[09:36] <LSZH> Hello... can I use dist-upgrade for an upgrade from Flight4 to Flight5?
[09:36] <pestilence> alapzaj, ok, so try dpkg -r on that one
[09:36] <alapzaj> nogimics passwd
[09:36] <andyjeffries> ssam: Just a quick one, does partition resizing during install work well (FAT32?).  If so, I'll resize down a shared drive I have and give it a whirl....
[09:36] <alapzaj> same
[09:36] <alapzaj> :D
[09:36] <scorchsaber> Does anyone know where the Kubuntu repositories are? The Kubuntu guys at #kubuntu weren't too helpful...
[09:36] <ssam> wentura, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:37] <pestilence> alapzaj, does it give you that error on the dpkg -r ?
[09:37] <emo_> darkfires: my mate is not here e the room is closed....
[09:37] <taoscotch> Egan : same as before about the key0pboard and mouse
[09:37] <alapzaj> so the error message is "mismach on diver to when removing of diversion of /usr/lib/libgl.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversion/libgl.so.1.2 by fglrx-driver
[09:37] <ssam> andyjeffries, should work fine, you could use a windows partitoner if you wanted
[09:37] <emo_> darkfires: is a shit...
[09:37] <alapzaj> this is same as apt-get remove
[09:37] <pestilence> alapzaj, ok
[09:37] <wentura> yes, i have done everything what was there
[09:37] <Nogimics> alapzaj thanks
[09:37] <vook> scorchsaber, just google it "apt kubuntu source" should work
[09:37] <kudeta> anyone anygood with azureus
[09:37] <kudeta> tried to install it
[09:37] <pestilence> alapzaj, oh...what if you apt-get install fglrx-driver?
[09:37] <taoscotch> Egan : at the bottom says registered new driver usb-storage
[09:37] <kudeta> i get this: Exception in thread "main" org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [gtk_init_check() failed] 
[09:37] <LSZH> Can I use dist-upgrade for an upgrade from Flight4 to Flight5?
[09:38] <Edgan> kudeta: yes
[09:38] <alapzaj> but 1 more line
[09:38] <kudeta> when i start it
[09:38] <wentura> but after new install is allright :) but i don`t know why
[09:38] <nickrud> scorchsaber: ubuntu & kubuntu repos are exactly the same.
[09:38] <kudeta> appreciate the help Edgan :)
[09:38] <ssam> LSZH, yes
[09:38] <LSZH> ssam: Thanks!
[09:38] <ssam> LSZH, though you'll also get the updates since flight5
[09:38] <kudeta> any idea?
[09:39] <alapzaj> found diversion of /usr/lib/libgl.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversion/libgl.so.1.2.xlibmesa by fglrx-driver
[09:39] <shiznatix> i have firefox 1.5 on ubuntu and every time I do a tap-to-click on my laptop it acts like I pressed the middle mouse button even though I tap in the middle of the pad. How do I disable this?
[09:39] <LSZH> ssam: That's OK...
[09:39] <andyjeffries> ssam: All good, thanks for your help - I may be back on later tonight.....
[09:39] <beewee> ogra: ping
[09:39] <pestilence> alapzaj, but did it complete?
[09:39] <jr0> Egan, wow, that was 'grepping' stuff... seems to be in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh here, FWIW
[09:39] <Edgan> kudeta: your java setup properly?
[09:39] <LSZH> ssam: ... it's a test system... although Flight 4 has been very stable...
[09:39] <alapzaj> no , it says "can't download this package"
[09:39] <andyjeffries> ssam: Sorry, hit Alt-F4 faster than I can think - meant to say "Thanks" as well :-)
[09:39] <pestilence> alapzaj, well that's a different brand of error
[09:39] <FrdPrefct> alapzaj: verify your sources
[09:39] <Edgan> taoscotch: try disconnecting both the mouse and keyboard, reboot, and then try the flash drive
[09:39] <kudeta> i did what it said on the sun site.. just installed the bin to its own directory (i chose a place in /usr/local)
[09:40] <ssam> LSZH, there shouldn't be any more problems, everythings frozen for bug fixing now
[09:40] <ssam> andyjeffries, have fun good luck
[09:40] <taoscotch> Edgan: i will be gone for a while
[09:40] <andyjeffries> ssam: ta
[09:40] <andyjeffries> see ya
[09:40] <alapzaj> FrdPrefct: how?? sorry but i'm beginner
[09:40] <kudeta> Edgan, i couldn't see any more obvious instructions :S?
[09:40] <LSZH> ssam: Hmm, hibernation/sleep doesn't work on my system, however, that isn't a Dapper problem I'm afraid...
[09:40] <Edgan> kudeta: I think there is a proper dpkg out there someone has made
[09:41] <ssam> LSZH, have you filed a bug about it?
[09:41] <emo_> darkfire:well I gonna carry on....to see what's happening...
[09:41] <kudeta> edgan where should i look?
[09:41] <bradd_> hello
[09:41] <Edgan> kudeta: looking
[09:41] <Spee_Der> Hello everyone.
[09:41] <bradd_> Is there a way I can get a list of gnome applications???
[09:41] <tjb891> i need to configure my computers BIOS, do i do this different with grub than i did on windows?
[09:41] <LSZH> ssam: No, ssam... the problem is that I don't know what I could report... just reporting that hibernation doesn't work wouldn't be helpful I guess...
[09:41] <MikeStyleNet> hi, im using openbox and when i right click for my apps, my chat app doesnt show up...how would i make it show up
[09:41] <MikeStyleNet> ?
[09:42] <ssam> LSZH, if you give some details about your hardware it would
[09:42] <scorchsaber> nickrud: the repos are not the same, because I cannot install KDE with just the Ubuntu stuff (yes, even with  universe and multiverse)
[09:42] <LSZH> ssam: OK, I'll report the problem ASAP!
[09:42] <Edgan> kudeta: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[09:42] <ssam> LSZH, ti cant hurt anyway
[09:42] <Seveas> Edgan, ubuntuguide.org is a BAD resource
[09:42] <nickrud> scorchsaber: you're doing sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ?
[09:42] <TheThreat> Hello everybody!!!
[09:43] <tjb891> like on windows i hit one of the F keys  right  as i was starting to configure it to boot from a cd, can i do that in grub and how
[09:43] <redLAW> can anybody tell me what is the diference beetwen ubuntu cd and dvd, sorry for bad english
[09:43] <TheThreat> I have a question for you.
[09:43] <vook> bradd_, apt-cache search gnome | grep (what your lookingfor) | less    (you'll have to dig a bit)
[09:43] <Edgan> Seveas: And I care why? :)
[09:43] <Seveas> dvd contains more packages
[09:43] <TheThreat> Can anybody help me, please ?
[09:43] <scorchsaber> actually I was using synaptic. Shouldn't I have?
[09:43] <MikeStyleNet> how do i configure the applications menu in Openbox/blackbox/fluxbox?
[09:43] <Seveas> Edgan, don't point people to it.
[09:43] <Edgan> Seveas: Why?
[09:43] <Seveas> because it's a bad resource
[09:43] <Seveas> it has very crappy instructions
[09:43] <vook> or synaptic
[09:43] <alapzaj> wich command can i rename files?
[09:43] <Seveas> alapzaj, mv
[09:43] <alapzaj> thx
[09:44] <Edgan> Seveas: what do you suggest?
[09:44] <MikeStyleNet> i reccomend ubuntuforums  [dot]  org
[09:44] <nickrud> scorchsaber: as long as it was kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <Seveas> Edgan, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:45] <raindog> When attempting to resize my ntfs partition the ubuntu partitioner does not resize it, it simply returns to the previous menu.  Any ideas?
[09:45] <loco> hi there
[09:45] <scorchsaber> in any case, last install, after I added the kubuntu sources, I got everything, including libSDL-Image
[09:45] <scorchsaber> which wasn't in Ubuntu for some reason
[09:45] <warren1> how would i go about finding packages for apache 2.2 and subversion 1.3?
[09:45] <Edgan> kudeta: You can also look at http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:FASD0ZtRTQYJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76702.html+java+ubuntu+dpkg&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8&lr=lang_en
[09:45] <scorchsaber> maybe it's just my CD, or what I'm doing, but...still.
[09:45] <toko123> anyone running vmware?
[09:45] <alapzaj> YES!!! i found a script in /usr/share/fglrx called fglrx_uninstall.sh and maybe it's work
[09:45] <alapzaj> :D
[09:45] <MikeStyleNet> toko123 yes
[09:45] <alapzaj> thx for a help
[09:45] <alapzaj> and sry for bad english:D
[09:46] <kudeta> Edgan i think i discovered the problem
[09:46] <toko123> MikeStyleNet, on 5.10
[09:46] <nickrud> scorchsaber: if you have an ubuntu disk, kubuntu isn't on it. Thas a different cd 
[09:46] <MikeStyleNet> toko123 yes
[09:46] <Edgan> kudeta: what?
[09:46] <kudeta> i installed a jre from the sun site in one directory
[09:46] <kudeta> but ubuntu alreayd has one
[09:46] <kudeta> 1.4
[09:46] <colm> !java
[09:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:46] <Seveas> kudeta, you think you installed it in one dir
[09:46] <Seveas> but the installer put crap in other places too
[09:46] <recon00> How can I use my new biometrics device with ubuntu?
[09:46] <scorchsaber> nickrud: Of course. I just want KDE and LibSDL Image
[09:47] <toko123> MikeStyleNet, I get an error on strart up libpng12.so not found?
[09:47] <recon00> !biometrics
[09:47] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, recon00
[09:47] <Edgan> kudeta: might be the issue
[09:47] <ssam> raindog, i don't think the installer supports ntfs resizing, you could try http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page make sure you back up your data though
[09:47] <recon00> How can I use my new biometrics device with ubuntu?
[09:47] <ITSa341> Is there a place I can pay someone to write a driver for my GPS? I have the drivers for RH but they won't load in Ubuntu or Xandros.
[09:47] <maximaus> quickie for ya guys. dist-upgraded to dapper. X broke as expected. Saw "UseFBDev" in xorg.conf didn't recognize it so disabled it. What is it? :P
[09:47] <kudeta> this is what happend: i got the .bin from the sun site and installed it(version 1.5-6)
[09:47] <recon00> How can I use my new biometrics device with ubuntu?
[09:47] <maximaus> btw, it fixed X
[09:47] <kudeta> but when i type in java -version
[09:47] <MikeStyleNet> toko123, are you using the deb or are you compiling from source or did you get it from synaptic?
[09:47] <kudeta> i get 1.4
[09:47] <kudeta> the ubuntu version i presume
[09:47] <ssam> ITSa341, you could make a bouty at launchpad.net
[09:47] <cwillu> maximaus: I think that's the fallback I-can't-figure-out-your-card device
[09:47] <kudeta> so i need to work out what to do?
[09:48] <kudeta> uninstall the new version
[09:48] <ITSa341> ssam  thanks  I'll check that out
[09:48] <maximaus> thanx, cwillu. good enough for me. :P
[09:48] <cwillu> fb being framebuffer
[09:48] <toko123> MikeStyleNet, tried to compile from source I didn't see it it packages?
[09:48] <kudeta> and set the azureus path to the bin folder of the old version
[09:48] <raindog> ssam:  the installer partitioner does work with ntsf.  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[09:48] <kudeta> is that right?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> idleone ping
[09:48] <IdleOne> gnomefreak> pong
[09:48] <void^> kudeta: no need to set anything in the azureus script. just follow the wiki guide to _properly_ install sun's java.
[09:49] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  whats up?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> pop.gmail.com smtp.gmail.com :)
[09:49] <toko123> MikeStyleNet, compiled using vmware-install -compile command
[09:49] <kudeta> but what do i do with the old versio(s)?
[09:49] <fromeroc> how can I desinstall kubunt.?" from ubuntu
[09:49] <MikeStyleNet> toko123...go to vmware site and download the RPM along with the alien package in synaptic, then cd to area where rpm is and do 'sudo alien nameofrpm.rpm' and it will create a .deb for you
[09:49] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  hehe yeah I found it lol thanks :)
[09:49] <NegativeSpace> Hi, I get "Depends: libavcodec2  but it is not installable" when trying to install mencoder-custom. How can I get it?
[09:49] <TheThreat> Is there anyone that uses Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[09:49] <andyjeffries> Sorry to ask a dopey question but how big is a full-on Ubuntu install (OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, etc) without data?  Would 15GB be enough (/home is on a separate partition)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> andyjeffries: 15 gig should be plenty
[09:50] <SL|warlock> Hiya
[09:50] <SL|warlock> I need some help.
[09:50] <SL|warlock> I need to uninstall something i've installed, how do i do?
[09:50] <toko123> thanks
[09:50] <SL|warlock> let's call it gallery
[09:50] <ssam> andyjeffries, even 5gb would be fine
[09:50] <toko123> MikeStyleNet, thanks
[09:50] <andyjeffries> gnomefreak: Ta ("come on Dapper Drake Flight4, hurry up and finish downloading....")
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i logout from "sudo"
[09:50] <TheThreat> I downloaded yesterday, but I can not use PERSISTENCE.
[09:50] <andyjeffries> ssam: OK, maybe I'll split the difference and do 10GB then....
[09:50] <ssam> andyjeffries, there is a flight 5
[09:51] <MikeStyleNet> toko123 or right now try this: 'sudo make clean; ./configure; sh vmware-config.pl' (?)
[09:51] <j-linux> MetaMorfoziS: 'sudo' only lasts for one command
[09:51] <andyjeffries> ssam: Damn?  Really???
[09:51] <TheThreat> I follow the steps in the web page, but it still does not work.
[09:51] <cwillu> unless you do sudo bash, but you don't want to do that :)
[09:51] <recon00> Does anybody know how I can use my new fingerprint scanner with ubuntu?
[09:51] <NegativeSpace> Hi, I get "Depends: libavcodec2  but it is not installable" when trying to install mencoder-custom. How can I get it?
[09:51] <TheThreat> Can anyone help me, please ?
[09:51] <recon00> Does anybody know how I can use my new fingerprint scanner with ubuntu?
[09:51] <barry> anyone got a good link for automatrix?
[09:51] <neoncode> andyjeffries: Yea, I got it
[09:51] <ssam> andyjeffries, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/
[09:51] <SL|warlock> Could anyone help me uninstall some shit please? I dont know the command :(
[09:51] <j-linux> recon00: is it a thinkpad?
[09:51] <recon00> barry: use easy ubuntu.
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[09:51] <ali> is it safe to delete /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat ?
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> it isn't ask me about pasword
[09:52] <neoncode> Does anyone know what Dapper's "OEM mode" does?
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> after the first time
[09:52] <ssam> SL|warlock, system -> administation -> synaptic package manger
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> for ~5minutes it asks again
[09:52] <andyjeffries> neoncode,ssam: thanks (and thank god I'm on a fast line and don't care about downloading many CD images)
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> j-linux
[09:52] <recon00> j-linux: it's a usb "biometric password manager" made by "APC".
[09:52] <ssam> ali, yes
[09:52] <barry> thanks recon00
[09:52] <SL|warlock> Sorted out ssam, but thanks!
[09:52] <ssam> ali tho there should be a fix out pretty soon
[09:52] <j-linux> reconn00: ok... I know some links for the thinkpad one, but not others...  Try the thinkpad digest archives...
[09:53] <SL|warlock> I used ubuntu-server, apt-get remove name :-D
[09:53] <andyjeffries> Are there any release notes for Flight 5?  Can't find them through Google and they aren't linked from that download page.
[09:53] <SL|warlock> Oh btw, does anyone know a "good" looking apache server? So the icons looks good etc?
[09:53] <MikeStyleNet> anyone here know how to configure the applications menu in openbox/fluxbox/blackbox ??
[09:53] <j-linux> MetamorphosiS: so you typed 'sudo' sometihng and then it didn't ask for your password for 5 min?
[09:53] <ssam> neoncode, its for companies to install ubuntu on a computer before selling it
[09:54] <Mosi> SL|warlock: does it really  matter? webservers aren't there to look good...
[09:54] <SL|warlock> it does actually Mosi :(
[09:54] <SL|warlock> care to help out perhaps?
[09:54] <Mosi> SL|warlock: just out of curiosity, why?
[09:54] <khxxm> 5mins ago my usb hardrive are on my desktop now they all gone how to I put them back on my desktop anyone please
[09:54] <ssam> SL|warlock, apatch does not have an icon
[09:54] <SL|warlock> is there something else?
[09:54] <SL|warlock> Mosi, for the look -i will be using the apache server for lots of things
[09:54] <alapzaj> :( , it doesn't works
[09:55] <alapzaj> the x-server:(
[09:55] <MikeStyleNet> ?>??
[09:55] <alapzaj> any idea?
[09:55] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i'm not sure i can help, aside from making a note that Apache's icons aren't hard-coded. You can download your own icons and dump them in a directory,  then reconfigure what it uses in httpd.conf
[09:55] <ssam> SL|warlock, you can make your website look like anything on any web server
[09:55] <SL|warlock> Mosi, any clues of where i can download apache-icons ?
[09:56] <khxxm> my external USB isn't on my desktop, there has to be a quick way to get them back does anyone know?
[09:56] <Mosi> SL|warlock: you can download any icons you want and use them. Go gooling for icons, they can't be hard to find
[09:56] <SL|warlock> where are the orginal icons placed at ?
[09:56] <barry> is there an easy wat to add a local repository to synaptic?
[09:56] <MikeStyleNet> anyone?
[09:56] <Mosi> SL|warlock: but you know that the only time icons for apache are used is when there is no index.html in a direcotry and apache has to auto-generate a file listing, right?
[09:57] <therp> Can I expect a working system after sed -i -e s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list or are there any pitfalls?
[09:57] <Mosi> SL|warlock: hold on, i'm installing it so i can go check ")
[09:57] <gnomefreak> therp: i wouldnt expect a working system (there is no telling)
[09:57] <MikeStyleNet> anyway...anyone know a good sources.list file that has some good stuff in it?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell MikeStyleNet about easysource
[09:58] <therp> gnomefreak: hm, I was hoping that, as the release date of dapper shouldn't be more than a month away right?
[09:58] <Mosi> Can anyone tell me why upgrading my kernel to SMP and a slightly newer version broke my XMMS?
[09:58] <fromeroc> how can I desinstall kubunt.?" from ubuntu
[09:58] <fromeroc> how can I desinstall kubunt.?" from ubuntu
[09:58] <gnomefreak> therp: it might be held back 6 more weeks
[09:58] <FlannelKing> therp: well, it's scheduled for april 20 (which is a month and a week), and then they talked about a delay for 6 more.
[09:58] <MikeStyleNet> fromeroc: sudo apt-get remove kde
[09:58] <MikeStyleNet> fromeroc: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <NegativeSpace> Are there are any skins or anything for MPlayer I can download?
[09:58] <fromeroc> MikeStyleNet: from gnome or where?
[09:59] <therp> gnomefreak&flannelking: reminds me of debian :)
[09:59] <fromeroc> kde can I
[09:59] <shiv> I really need to install the clock screensaver from KDE to my Gnome. I am not able to find in the repos. What do I look for?
[09:59] <FlannelKing> therp: nah, it's six weeks with a purpose.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> MikeStyleNet: dont forget after that he needs to uninstall the packages too :(
[09:59] <MikeStyleNet> gnomefreak thanks i forgot
[09:59] <MikeStyleNet> also thanks for the list thingy :)
[09:59] <therp> flannelking: that seems like a difference :)
[09:59] <gargas> hi i m looking a driver for my printer. where should i check?
[09:59] <therp> linuxprinting.org
[09:59] <_jason2> !print
[09:59] <ubotu> [print]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:59] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: so how can I did it.."
[10:00] <gnomefreak> thers a lib to uninstall i just cant remember it :(
[10:00] <MikeStyleNet> hey guys what the 2 digit code of my country?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> MikeStyleNet: what country
[10:01] <MikeStyleNet> Unitedstates
[10:01] <gnomefreak> us
[10:01] <MikeStyleNet> ohh ok i thought it was asking for numbers
[10:01] <aeolist> :O
[10:01] <NegativeSpace> In MPlayer, what are the best audio/visual codecs to use with it?
[10:01] <fromeroc> MikeStyleNet: so how can i do that?
[10:01] <netsurf3> i am getting an insaine number of drops from internet and crashes of hotplug it seems as i have a usb key which crashes on insert of the machine anyone able to shed some ideas WTF is going on i am using the RT2570 drivers
[10:01] <TheThreat> gnomefreak: can I bother you for a moment, please ?
[10:01] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, xv?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the lib to get rid of for kubuntu uninstall?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> TheThreat: ask i shall try to help
[10:02] <fit4lfe> does anyone have vncserver installed
[10:02] <NegativeSpace> aeolist What about audio?
[10:02] <Fitzsimmons> is beagle standard in dapper?
[10:02] <TheThreat> Thanks.
[10:02] <SAM_theman> yo people
[10:02] <SAM_theman> :P
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Fitzsimmons: you have to isntall it and please take dapper questions to #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <SAM_theman> Ubutnu 6.04 ROCKS
[10:02] <nickrud> gnomefreak: libqt3-mt or something like that
[10:02] <SAM_theman> FUKING rockS!!
[10:02] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, there arent mucho stuff there... alsa i guess?
[10:02] <SL|warlock> hows it going Mosi ?
[10:02] <TheThreat> I downloaded and burned the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD.
[10:02] <khxxm> my external USB isn't on my desktop, there has to be a quick way to get them back does anyone know?
[10:02] <SAM_theman> its like Mac OSX just brown
[10:03] <TheThreat> I want to put it to work with persistent.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> SAM_theman: #ubuntu+1 and please dont use that kind of language in either of the channels
[10:03] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Okay dude, cheers.
[10:03] <aeolist> khxxm, what do you mean?
[10:03] <fit4lfe> vnc anyone
[10:03] <SAM_theman> srry man
[10:03] <gargas> i cant find my printer on the sites u gave me. i can only find 1100 while my printer is x1180 any suggestions?
[10:03] <idrix> Why does gxine only play some radiochannels for me, even though they all play mp3?
[10:03] <Fitzsimmons> what is this #ubuntu+1?
[10:03] <SAM_theman> it won't happen again
[10:03] <SAM_theman> i am just so happy
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Fitzsimmons: its the dapper channel
[10:03] <TheThreat> I followed the steps in the web page, but it does not work.
[10:03] <Fitzsimmons> oh
[10:03] <SAM_theman> *ubutnu
[10:03] <NegativeSpace> aeolist MPlayer tells me I have XviD 1.0 -- is that the latest?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> TheThreat: what do you mean work? are you trying to install it from live cd?
[10:03] <SAM_theman> whatever
[10:03] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: I think that you got it right,"?
[10:03] <aeolist> gargas, i take it you visited linuxprinting.org
[10:03] <TheThreat> No.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> fromeroc: explain please
[10:04] <TheThreat> I run the Live CD with persistence.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> TheThreat: please give me the site your looking at
[10:04] <gargas> i cheched it
[10:04] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, i dont know, relax with the "having the most up-to-date" syndrome, if you watch all your videos, you are fine
[10:04] <TheThreat> I want my memory stick to save my configurations for the next reboot.
[10:04] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Yeah but the sound is off and the picture quality not great.
[10:05] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, the sound problem is specific to mplayer?
[10:05] <TheThreat> Right.
[10:05] <TeRaHuRtZ> How do I get packages from apt which have "kept back" ?
[10:05] <TheThreat> I give you it.
[10:05] <MikeStyleNet> hey gnomefreak
[10:05] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: [15:02]  <nickrud> gnomefreak : libqt3-mt or something like that <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[10:05] <gnomefreak> TheThreat: that i know nothing about
[10:05] <gnomefreak> TeRaHuRtZ: in dapper?
[10:05] <TeRaHuRtZ> ya
[10:05] <balu1> so
[10:05] <gnomefreak> TeRaHuRtZ: you dont
[10:05] <Mosi> SL|warlock: working on it, but i'm talking to someone
[10:05] <TheThreat> Auch!!!
[10:05] <balu1> where can u get some coool looking wall paper/themes
[10:05] <TeRaHuRtZ> Argh ya i do :)
[10:05] <nickrud> fromeroc: I checked, that's the right one
[10:05] <TheThreat> Do you know someone ?
[10:05] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Yeah, and synaptic tells me I have ALSA installed but it's not listed on the audio codecs for MPlayer.
[10:05] <kudeta> is it easy to add a link to azureus in my menu someone?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> TeRaHuRtZ: please disscuss dapper on #ubuntu+1
[10:05] <MikeStyleNet> gnomefreak...any experience with fluxbox/openbox/blackbox?
[10:05] <SL|warlock> Mosi, do you know where i put the icons in? - i found a icon source
[10:06] <TeRaHuRtZ> #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <TeRaHuRtZ> oops
[10:06] <gnomefreak> MikeStyleNet: i use flux sometimes if that counts
[10:06] <khxxm> is there a reason y my usb connection isn't hot on blugin after i change language?
[10:06] <MikeStyleNet> gnomefreak, do you know how to edit the applications menu? because atm, nothing shows up when i right click
[10:06] <Mosi> SL|warlock: still looking, hold on
[10:06] <balu1> what directory do most programs u install go to?? (like in windows they usually end up in program files)
[10:07] <SL|warlock> ok
[10:07] <gnomefreak> MikeStyleNet: i would use the docs on fluxbox.com its not an easy thing if your not used to playing in fs
[10:07] <MikeStyleNet> gnomefreak, fs?
[10:07] <_user>  does gnome have the ability to cycle through multiple wallpapers. I know kde has that ability
[10:07] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: when I installed kubuntu on ubuntu I finished my session and I started like KDE and it answered to me. how I want the style. UNIX WINDOWS MAC OS OR KDE And I put MAC ... how can I change it know.-" FOR Examples. If I want style like UNIX??
[10:08] <Mosi> SL|warlock: the icons folder is /usr/share/apache/icons and the config file you need to edit to change which ones it uses for which files is /etc/apache/conf.d/httpd.conf
[10:08] <gnomefreak> fromeroc: the kde control panel iirc
[10:09] <MikeStyleNet> gnomefreak, btw:its fluxbox.sf.net i think
[10:09] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: what??
[10:09] <Mosi> jesus christ!
[10:09] <SL|warlock> O,o
[10:09] <MikeStyleNet> whats with the netsplit thing?
[10:09] <Mosi> SL|warlock: did you get that?
[10:10] <recon00> holy crap, that's a lot of joins?
[10:10] <recon00> !!!
[10:10] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, recon00
[10:10] <SL|warlock> Yeah Mosi, but still dont understand
[10:10] <pbxr> when trying to boot the installation- and/or live-discs of flight 4 and 5 on PPC i get "arch: exit" and a hard freeze. any ideas? the 5.10 install and live works just fine.
[10:10] <SL|warlock> seems like its alot of work todo
[10:10] <SL|warlock> to edit the icons
[10:10] <SL|warlock> :(
[10:10] <nickrud> heh they said 4000 users, we are a tiny fraction
[10:10] <gnomefreak> recon00: freenode is reseting
[10:10] <MikeStyleNet> lol
[10:10] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i don't think the icons do what you think they do
[10:10] <gnomefreak> if you read your server page you would have read that
[10:10] <SL|warlock> Mosi, i just wish to change the look
[10:10] <SL|warlock> like this perhaps:
[10:10] <SL|warlock> 1sec
[10:10] <jimm1> Hiya - I'm having real trouble mounting my old HDD- I've bought a new one and installed ubuntu on it, ive connected my old one to the secondary IDE cable, I want to mount my old ubuntu partition so i can get my old data off, could someone give me a hand?
[10:10] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, did you get that message?
[10:10] <Mosi> SL|warlock: what are you trying to change the look of?
[10:11] <Mosi> jimm1: what's the problem?
[10:11] <SL|warlock> Mosi, apache thingy
[10:11] <SL|warlock> look
[10:11] <SL|warlock> http://dust2.mine.nu
[10:11] <SL|warlock> You see?
[10:11] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: do you understand?
[10:11] <balu1> where do most files install to in linux? what general directory
[10:11] <SL|warlock> I wish to add icons or something
[10:11] <SL|warlock> 1sec
[10:11] <SL|warlock> i'll find something i like
[10:12] <MikeStyleNet> ok guys im switching back to kde for a bit even tho i love irssi...bbl
[10:12] <NegativeSpace> aeolist No, I'm afraid not.
[10:12] <jimm1> well i was kind of hopeing when i just connected it up - ubuntu would auto mount the partitions it found on it - but i don't think(!) it has?
[10:12] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, alsa is not an audio codec.. audio codecs are algorithms that extract sound from the avi,divx etc video formats. alsa is like the interaction layer between linux and the sound card.. so if sound works in your ubuntu but doesnt in mplayer, then maybe you are using the wrong audio codec for the job? cant say much more than that
[10:12] <pilly> new to ubuntu, but not to linux... whats up with the f'n root acount?!?!
[10:12] <gnomefreak> fromeroc: did you look in kde control panel (gnome does not carry kde themes)
[10:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell pilly about root
[10:12] <MikeStyleNet> pilly what about root?
[10:12] <pilly> it's really annoying
[10:12] <Mosi> jimm1: are you trying to get it to automount, or are you just trying to mount it?
[10:12] <SL|warlock> Mosi, like this: http://www.endpoint.nu/img/servers/
[10:12] <aeolist> pilly, it's considered safer... you can however follow the standard scheme and have a root account
[10:12] <jimm1> well i only really need to mount it once - to get all my old docs off it - so i guess just mount
[10:12] <SL|warlock> something nice, i have my own loggo etc.
[10:12] <pilly> like no pw
[10:13] <Mosi> SL|warlock: the difference is they made a webpage, and you didn't
[10:13] <aeolist> pilly, either by installing in expert mode, or by creating a root user with all root priviledges
[10:13] <_jason> pilly: ubuntu uses sudo instead of root for a variety of reasons, take a look at the link the bot sent you for more info
[10:13] <SL|warlock> that's editing apache Mosi.
[10:13] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Actually I realised I was looking in the wrong place. I think the problem is the video codec as well -- now I'm looking in the right place for sure, and I can't find XviD. Egad.
[10:13] <khxxm> balul - there is application finder Xfce 4 application finder Accessories
[10:13] <fromeroc> gnomefreak: how can I change to UNIx."? for example. the style."!
[10:13] <balu1> khxxm: there is?
[10:13] <pilly> root's locked... to save my system from others or me??
[10:13] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, is sound off in all videos/dvds etc?
[10:13] <gargas> i found my printers software but printing doesnt start.do i have to mount the usb?
[10:13] <Mosi> SL|Warlock: yeah, you can edit apache so the page it autogenerates looks customized. you do know HTML, right?
[10:13] <_jason> pilly: probably a bit of both
[10:13] <IdleOne> pilly> yes both
[10:13] <SL|warlock> Yeah i do
[10:14] <j-linux> Mosi, I put the windows hard drive in the secondary slot (ultrabay) and am running ubuntu in its normal place.  I was told by someone to change grub so that hd1 turns to hd0 and vice versa, otherwise it windows wont like not being on the main hard drive.  Is that basically the same thing you were telling me last night?
[10:14] <jimm1> pilly: you know about sudo right?
[10:14] <SL|warlock> kinda, easily managed
[10:14] <pilly> yeah...
[10:14] <SL|warlock> what file do i edit?
[10:14] <jimm1> okay
[10:14] <nickrud> fromeroc: run kcontrol
[10:14] <balu1> khxxm:  i dont see it ? ;X
[10:14] <pilly> never had a distro that I actually had to use it in...
[10:14] <pilly> mostly debian experience
[10:14] <jimm1> Mosi: can you help me get my secondary ide hdd mounted?
[10:14] <Mosi> j-linux: helping two other people right now, can you message me so i can keet it straight?
[10:14] <fromeroc> nickrud: I did it now.!
[10:15] <pilly> looks like a good dist though
[10:15] <NegativeSpace> aeolist No, I've got xine and everything's fine -- I try MPlayer and the picture is off with the sound. I think the problem is the picture, though, not sound -- I go to "Video", but there's no XviD there.
[10:15] <Mosi> jimm1: do you know how to use the mount command?
[10:15] <aeolist> pilly, dont know about that, all my debian friends hate ubuntu
[10:15] <Mosi> SL|warlock: hold on, let me find it
[10:15] <nickrud> pilly: you'll feel pretty much at home, then. Just redecorated 
[10:16] <Kurupt1> Hello I am trying to install ubuntu on my system but it's not prompting me which os to load on boot
[10:16] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, in the video tab of preferences menu, you are supposed to have xv checked
[10:16] <jimm1> i've mounted by digital camera before-  but i might have forgotten how to do it - i can mount a drive but i dont know how to find out which hda/b 1,2,3 ect it is - does that make sence ? :S
[10:16] <pilly> well gnome will take some getting used to but the only weird part was the lack of a root pw....
[10:16] <j-linux> Mosi: sure.. sorry.  I'll check back later... I just found the grub manual... looks a bit intimidating, but there is probably something in there about it :)
[10:16] <aeolist> NegativeSpace,  have you installed mplayer-fonts (not that it should matter of course)
[10:16] <Whatsisname> jimm1 it should be a scsi drive when it is plugged in
[10:16] <Whatsisname> sdX
[10:16] <GFDL> jimm1, doesn
[10:17] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Okay, I do and it's still off. Fair enough. Then I go to codec families or something, and choose XviD 1.0, and the picture is still off.
[10:17] <GFDL> jimm1, sorry, doesn't gtkam do this automatically for you?
[10:17] <fromeroc> nickrud: now?
[10:17] <joevandyk> I'm using evolution in dapper.  there's no mail notification when i get mail.  how can i enable mail notifications?
[10:17] <NegativeSpace> aeolist No, I don't.
[10:17] <jimm1> for some reason Mosi -= when i goto computer it shows x2 cdroms - i only have one connected right now (as i unplugged the second to get my old hdd plugged in) - i think ubuntu is thinking the hdd is a cdrom device?
[10:17] <fdr> hello... could you please suggest me some photo retouching program? I tried with the gimp but I don't like it... i need something simpler to rotate/crop photos, and maybe do a little of colour correction... thanks
[10:17] <pilly> anyone use ubuntu for a pvr with mythtv?
[10:17] <ubuntu_> Hi
[10:17] <netsurf3> can anyone help me stop the bluetooth modules loading on boot please?
[10:18] <V4Vendetta> when something is set to off in alsa mixer
[10:18] <jimm1> GFDL - im not sure, how can i tell?
[10:18] <V4Vendetta> how do i turn it on
[10:18] <Mosi> jimm1: the third letter of the name of the device file (hdAx, hdBx, etc) is the one that indicates which physical drive. while the number (hda1, hda2, hda3, etc) points to the partition on that drive. try 'sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/hdb0 /mnt'
[10:18] <NegativeSpace> aeolist The picture is quite liney, too, if you know what I mean.
[10:18] <nickrud> fromeroc: I don't use kde, I just know that's the control panel for it
[10:18] <netsurf3> anyone?
[10:18] <recon00> Does anybody know how to get a "APC BioPOD" working?
[10:18] <V4Vendetta> how do i turn it on
[10:18] <nickrud> fromeroc: if I did, that's where I would look first
[10:18] <fromeroc> nickrud: what do you use?
[10:18] <recon00> It's a fingerprint device.
[10:19] <nickrud> fromeroc: gnome
[10:19] <GFDL> jimm1, I've never mounted my digicam, I just use gtkam, no need to mount at all (at least explicitly)
[10:19] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts, it neeeds them... in video codec family i have "none" and in audio "libmad mpeg audio decoder"
[10:19] <jimm1> i have a few partitions on the old HDD - my swap space, the ubuntu partition and then windows XP pro - does that mean i need to find which partition number the ubuntu (ext3) is?
[10:19] <ice-tux> Hi
[10:19] <SAM_theman> brb
[10:19] <Mosi> jimm1: yes
[10:19] <kleinerwilly> is there a way to get an iPod running under ubuntu
[10:19] <myki> What should I install to get python.h? One app needs it.
[10:20] <recon00> If I can't get this thing working, I swear i'm switching back to Windows.
[10:20] <V4Vendetta> kleinerwilly, gtkpod
[10:20] <recon00> If I can't get this thing working, I swear i'm switching back to Windows.\
[10:20] <kleinerwilly> thx
[10:20] <kleinerwilly> =)
[10:20] <jimm1> is there a command i can run to see all the partitions on hdb?
[10:20] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Okay I'll try that. Cheers dude, I appreciate it.
[10:20] <fdr> kleinerwilly, have a look at gtkpod, my ipod nano works nicely with it
[10:20] <V4Vendetta> fdr, mine too
[10:20] <LSZH> How can I configure my touchpad? Is there a GUI?
[10:20] <jke> does aybody have an D-Link Air Plus Xtreme G+ DWL-G520+ 54Mbps?
[10:20] <Mosi> jimm1: if your ubuntu partition is the only ext3 partiion on the drive, you can try by trial and error ifyou don't know... i.e. specify '-t ext3' in the mount command and do all the partitions one at a time. if it's not ext3 it should exit 1 and you can try again
[10:20] <pbxr> what does "arch: exit" and a hardfreeze during boot indicate?
[10:20] <myki> What should I install to get python.h? One app needs it.
[10:20] <ice-tux> recon00: well, then go back if ubuntu is not this what you are expecting^^
[10:21] <fdr> V4Vendetta, did you find a way to import photos onto the ipod?
[10:21] <SL|warlock> Mosi
[10:21] <kleinerwilly> thx, @ fdr V4Vendetta
[10:21] <V4Vendetta> fdr, nope
[10:21] <SL|warlock> what was the file i needed to edit?
[10:21] <jimm1> ah cool - ill give it a try now Mosi then report back, thanks for this
[10:21] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, check the "deinterlace" thingy then
[10:21] <recon00> ice-tux: I've been using ubuntu for years. It's just that I can't get my fingerprint scanner working.
[10:21] <fdr> kleinerwilly, you're welcome
[10:21] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i'm working on it, httpd.conf is huge.
[10:21] <ice-tux> LSZH: i configured it in the xorg.conf
[10:21] <SL|warlock> ah, ok
[10:21] <ice-tux> recon00: is this so importaint for you?
[10:21] <fromeroc> nickrud:  I used gnome to. but I install aptitude install kde. 'n aptitude kubuntu-desktop and now I want to uninstall it but I do not know how do it."
[10:22] <recon00> ice-tux: yes.
[10:22] <fromeroc> nickrud: maybe u can help me?
[10:22] <quickblaine> hi all... a bit noobish i know, but im new to linux, and for some reason my external hdd has been set to read only and it wont let me change the permissions. what shud i do to fix this?
[10:22] <recon00> all well.
[10:22] <LSZH> ice-tux: I know that I could edit xorg.conf... however, there should be a GUI too?! ;)
[10:22] <nickrud> fromeroc: sudo aptitude remove libqt3-mt <-- 99.44% removal of kde
[10:23] <ubuntu_> !touchpad
[10:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <jimm1> omg Mosi, i've mounted the current volume im using! hdb must be my current HDD - in /mnt is exactly the same computer i currently have?!
[10:23] <aeolist> LSZH, real men do it with the keyboard
[10:23] <fromeroc> ok
[10:23] <NegativeSpace> aeolist Where abouts is deinterlace? I see something about interleaving, maybe that?
[10:23] <ubuntu_> will there be support for apls touchpad?
[10:23] <quickblaine> hi all... a bit noobish i know, but im new to linux, and for some reason my external hdd has been set to read only and it wont let me change the permissions. what shud i do to fix this?
[10:23] <fromeroc> nickrud: and I should do that in KDE or Gnome."
[10:23] <LSZH> aeolist: *ggg*
[10:23] <void^> quickblaine: what filesystem is it?
[10:23] <jimm1> Mosi: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb3 /mnt  =  the current hdd and partition im using!
[10:23] <ice-tux> LSZH: there should. nothing is perfect ;)
[10:23] <fdr> could somebody please suggest me some photo retouching program? I tried with the gimp but I don't like it... i need something simpler to rotate/crop photos, and maybe do a little of colour correction... thanks
[10:24] <jimm1> how do i unmount that volume?
[10:24] <quickblaine> void^: its NTFS
[10:24] <void^> quickblaine: don't write on it, then
[10:24] <nickrud> fromeroc: from a text console is best, when you're digging into the guts of a desktop
[10:24] <aeolist> NegativeSpace, i dont know, you gotta search for that in the manual... i made the deinterlace thingy up... but there should be something for that, i am sure
[10:24] <quickblaine> void^: huh?
[10:25] <nickrud> fromeroc: log out of your desktop and hit ctl-alt-f1. Log in, and run that removal line there.
[10:25] <Rusty_Trombone> anybody here use Corner XMMS gdesklet?
[10:25] <Francisco> nickrud, so
[10:25] <Mystery47_Newbie> Hello....i have some question about wine....
[10:25] <IdleOne> .
[10:25] <jimm1> Mosi: i've now got my current active ubuntu partition mounted twice, one in / and the other in /mnt  - how do i get rid of the one i've just mounted in /mnt?
[10:26] <Mystery47_Newbie> how my wine can detect cd/dvd on drive?
[10:26] <nickrud> then, hit ctl-alt-f7 and hit ctl-alt-backspace , and log in 
[10:26] <Mosi> jimm1: sudo umount /mnt
[10:26] <Rusty_Trombone> jimm1: sudo umount /mnt?
[10:26] <nickrud> Francisco: ?
[10:26] <Mystery47_Newbie> wine says that put disk on cdrom drive....and there is one...
[10:26] <quickblaine> hi all... a bit noobish i know, but im new to linux, and for some reason my external hdd has been set to read only and it wont let me change the permissions. what shud i do to fix this?
[10:26] <Rusty_Trombone> quickblaine: is it ntfs?
[10:26] <Francisco> nickrud, Im fromeroc but on gnome"
[10:26] <void^> quickblaine: there is no write support for ntfs
[10:27] <void^> (unless you call what is described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaptiveHowTo support)
[10:27] <s|k> how do I run a python file from the terminal? just typing it's name doesn't work
[10:27] <nickrud> Francisco:  fromeroc: log out of your desktop and hit ctl-alt-f1. Log in, and run that removal line there.
[10:27] <Mystery47_Newbie> is there some file that can be modified that wine can find my cdrom drive?
[10:27] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i can't find it. try googling for apache configuration guides.
[10:27] <quickblaine> void^: is there a way of formatting it to linux type? and if so can windows read that?
[10:27] <nickrud> Francisco:  then, hit ctl-alt-f7 and hit ctl-alt-backspace , and log in  Write that down.
[10:27] <s|k> oh I type python first
[10:27] <ubuntu_> fdr: imagemagik?
[10:27] <SL|warlock> kk np Mosi
[10:27] <Mosi> quickblaine: FAT32 works with windows and is usable by linux as well
[10:28] <SL|warlock> but thanks ALOT for trying and helping me out, cheers!
[10:28] <jimm1> Mosi: that worked - its not in /mnt anymore - how can I find out which hd my second hard drive is? (we established hdb = my current hdd)
[10:28] <void^> quickblaine: use FAT32 (mkfs.vfat)
[10:28] <quickblaine> is there a linux app that will format it to fat32?
[10:28] <Mosi> jimm1: if hdb is your current hard drive, try hda then O_o
[10:28] <IdleOne> Mystery47_Newbie>  wine /media/cdrom/file.exe I guess
[10:28] <fdr> ubuntu_, hmm.. thx for the advice, but I was thinking of something with a GUI....
[10:28] <Francisco> nickrud, what it the line I will type."
[10:28] <Mosi> quickblaine: try mkfs
[10:29] <jimm1> Mosi: i found it - hdc!
[10:29] <Francisco> for to remove it
[10:29] <Mosi> jimm1: cool :)
[10:29] <jimm1> thanks so much - thats sorted now
[10:29] <jimm1> thank you! *hugs*
[10:29] <Mosi> jimm1: no worries :P
[10:29] <Whatsisname> fdr for simple stuff gthumb might suffice
[10:29] <Mystery47_Newbie> yes....but when program is launched....program ask me put cd in....but there is one allready...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> quickblaine: gparted should format a partition to fat32 (not the one for linux)
[10:29] <Mystery47_Newbie> is there some file that can be modified?
[10:29] <Mosi> jimm1: if you want you can add it to /etc/fstab so it automounts when your system boots up
[10:29] <nickrud> Francisco:  sudo aptitude remove libqt3-mt
[10:30] <IdleOne> Mystery47_Newbie>  hit enter and see if that helps
[10:30] <Nogimics> hmmm if I think someone is SSH'd into my box using my username and pass how can I check the Ip of that SSH user?
[10:30] <Mystery47_Newbie> no help for that....:(
[10:30] <Mystery47_Newbie> many of my installation have that same prob...
[10:30] <IdleOne> Mystery47_Newbie>  try #winehq they could help more
[10:30] <Mystery47_Newbie> only if my wine can see that cd in that drive...
[10:31] <j-linux> I have a new hard drive mounted in a thinkpad "ultrabay" (where the CD drive normally goes).  Ubuntu can't see this hard drive... How can I get ubuntu to see it?
[10:31] <MetaMorfoziS> isthere any cd emulator program for ubuntu like alcohol or daemontools @ win?
[10:31] <fdr> Whatsisname, thanks, i'll give it a try
[10:31] <void^> j-linux: does it even have partitions?
[10:31] <SL|warlock> oh btw Mosi
[10:31] <SAM_theman> yo people my sound don't work
[10:31] <SL|warlock> how to make a file writeable ?
[10:31] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok...ill check that somewhere else....thanks anyway...
[10:31] <Nogimics> if I think someone is SSH'd into my box using my username and pass how can I check the Ip of that SSH user?
[10:31] <quickblaine> so what do i need to do to format this disk?
[10:31] <jimm1> cheers Mosi - i might just do that :D
[10:31] <Mosi> SL|warlock it depends on who owns it and what it's group is
[10:32] <j-linux> void^ the other hard drive is winodws
[10:32] <FlannelKing> Nogimics: check /var/log/auth_log
[10:32] <Mosi> jimm1: it's pretty easy, let me know if you want help ^_^
[10:32] <SL|warlock> Mosi, just making a file called: LGSL_CACHE.DAT writeable
[10:32] <SL|warlock> trough root
[10:32] <SL|warlock> what's the command? =D
[10:32] <jimm1> k thanx again :)
[10:32] <Nogimics> FlannelKing thats empy
[10:32] <nickrud> j-linux: sudo fdisk -l should tell you something
[10:33] <Mosi> SL|warlock: who do you want to make it writable for?
[10:33] <ploom> anyone else seeing google in "Ewmew Fudd" language?
[10:33] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks
[10:33] <kleinerwilly> MetaMorfoziS, mount -o loop should do
[10:33] <ploom> just funny :-)
[10:33] <SL|warlock> it needs to be writeable for some reason
[10:33] <Aven> hey, anyway to upload a file in gftp while the file is opened?
[10:33] <SL|warlock> THE FILE LGSL_CACHE.DAT IS NOT WRITABLE
[10:33] <SL|warlock> :/
[10:33] <Nico_> Problem....
[10:33] <Nico_> 45 CDs requested in 2006-02-03. 45 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-02-08. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[10:33] <Nico_> havent seen em yet
[10:34] <bosco> alright how do i change my time in ubuntu even though i run e17
[10:34] <SL|warlock> 45? lol
[10:34] <Nogimics> FlannelKing if thats empty does it mean someone has deleted the log too?
[10:34] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i'm asking you a question. if you keep giving me an answer that doesn't work, i can't help you. typing it caps doesn't make it clearere. what user or process do you want to make that file writable by?
[10:34] <SL|warlock> No Mosi, It's in caps, i just copy/pasted from the site
[10:34] <SL|warlock> http://dust2.mine.nu/status/
[10:34] <SL|warlock> as you see
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> mount -o loop something.iso?
[10:34] <FlannelKing> Nogimics: could be.  Are there no archives (.gz) files either?
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> or how?
[10:34] <Nogimics> that file doesnt even exists
[10:35] <Mosi> SL|warlock: what does that page do, and why does it need that cache?
[10:35] <kleinerwilly> no, you have to specify a device and directory
[10:35] <FlannelKing> Nogimics: yeah, but do old versions of it (in the /var/log folder) exist?
[10:35] <kleinerwilly> man mount
[10:35] <IdleOne> Nico_> why dont you just download and burn?
[10:35] <SL|warlock> Mosi, shows game-servers and if they are online or ont
[10:35] <SL|warlock> not *
[10:35] <j-linux> nickrud: it tells me that my NTFS disk is /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 (probably the thinkpad diagnostics stuff).  How can I get Ubuntu to put that drive permanently in the "places"
[10:35] <Mosi> SL|warlock: what process does the monitoring of the game servers?
[10:35] <nickrud> j-linux: you ever gonna pull this disk back out?
[10:35] <kleinerwilly>  mount /tmp/fdimage /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[10:35] <SL|warlock> i dunno :o
[10:36] <j-linux> nickrud: yes.. .it's sitting in my CD slot on my laptop.  It will be there most of the time but not always.
[10:36] <Nogimics> ah you gave me wrong filename FlannelKing they are there
[10:36] <Nogimics> thanks
[10:36] <jared_> I don't know if this question is valid here but I'll try it anyways: Ubuntu 64 bit.  Good? Bad?  What are the major pains?  Only thing i've heard is the flash plugin...
[10:36] <Mosi> SL|warlock: do you even know where that cache file is?
[10:36] <MetaMorfoziS> trhx
[10:37] <SL|warlock> Yeah Mosi, i think, 1sec.
[10:37] <SL|warlock> lgsl_module_cache.dat
[10:37] <SL|warlock> there ?
[10:37] <kleinerwilly> Meta, you have to change it to fit your needs
[10:37] <GFDL> jared_, flash, java plugins work fine inside a 32bit chroot
[10:37] <Whatsisname> MetaMorfoziS, if its an iso you can mount it just like a disk
[10:37] <Nico_> 45 CDs requested in 2006-02-03. 45 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-02-08. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[10:37] <SL|warlock> and yea i know where it's located
[10:37] <Nico_> havent seen em yet
[10:37] <Nico_> whats taking so long
[10:37] <SL|warlock> /var/www/status/lgsl_module_cache.dat
[10:37] <GFDL> jared_, I use the amd64 version on my laptop w.o. issues
[10:37] <nickrud> j-linux: you need to edit your /etc/fstab . Start with the ubotu message below.
[10:37] <nickrud> !ntfs
[10:37] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:37] <kleinerwilly> have to go, bye
[10:37] <Mosi> SL|warlock: that's a filename, not a location. it's also the wrong filename. you need LGSL_CACHE.DAT
[10:38] <jared_> GFDL, So Java and Flash work with a 32 bit version of Firefox then? =\
[10:38] <IdleOne> Nico_>  they are free it could take longer to receive be patient or download and burn them yourself :)
[10:38] <GFDL> jared_, yes
[10:38] <jared_> GFDL, But is that the only issues?  Because if so, I think I might take the dive ;)
[10:38] <SL|warlock> lgsl_cache.dat
[10:38] <SL|warlock> there it is
[10:38] <Nico_> IdleOne.. ok
[10:38] <Mosi> SL|warlock: where is that file located?
[10:38] <SL|warlock> same location where the other file is located.
[10:38] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks... I am looking at a web page that says I can mount a disk by typing $ mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy... can I just do $mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ? (for temporary purposes)
[10:39] <GFDL> jared_, those that I know, there are issues with ATI drivers, but they are solvable
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> Whatsisname: yes its an iso..
[10:39] <SL|warlock> /var/www/status/
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> but it said
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> loop3 not found
[10:39] <jared_> GFDL, I had some problems getting my ATI to work with the 32 bit too  Just a matter of installing the packages right?
[10:39] <nickrud> j-linux: exactly; make sure that you run sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1 first
[10:39] <Whatsisname> what was the command you used
[10:39] <Mosi> SL|warlock: ok. what's the output of the command 'ls -l /var/www/status/lgsl_cache.dat'?
[10:39] <predius_> hey, I'm trying to set up a samba share, and trying to connect from a windows laptop, problem is that the laptp is in another domain, so whenever I try to log in or map the network drive, the username is replaced by $DOMAIN\user, instead of just user, is there a way to fix this?
[10:39] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks...
[10:39] <Whatsisname> you should be using
[10:39] <Whatsisname> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/image /mount/point
[10:40] <aeolist> is there a way to record multiple channels at the same time in linux?
[10:40] <SL|warlock> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7322 2005-12-20 01:43 /var/www/status/lgsl_cache.dat
[10:40] <GFDL> jared_, yes, just you need to have the right driver ATI propietary driver works me, the issues are mainly with the acceleration of the cards
[10:40] <nickrud> j-linux: if it fails, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[10:40] <Whatsisname> aeolist, from a tv card?
[10:40] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo mount /media/mysql/Alcohol\ 120%/doom/cd1/rld-d3a.bin /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[10:40] <Catala> hello i have a problem wtih a DRI i have a Ati 9600 xt and i can't acceleration 3d http://pastebin.com/598531 <-- The error is this pelase help me
[10:40] <GFDL> jared_, if you don't use 3d accelaration it should work with the free drivers
[10:40] <Whatsisname> you'll need multiple tuners
[10:40] <Wardead> Gentoo > Ubuntu
[10:40] <Fitzsimmons> lol.
[10:40] <jared_> GFDL, Hmm, is there a way to get 3d acceleration?
[10:40] <Whatsisname> MetaMorfoziS, thats because you are trying to mount a bin, not on iso
[10:40] <aeolist> Whatsisname, no, from an audio card which has multiple line-ins
[10:41] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i don't suppose you know the group of the process that's trying to write it...
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and it has any differencies?
[10:41] <SL|warlock> not really :/
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> isn't any program that doo that?
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> like alcohol
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> or daemon tools?
[10:41] <GFDL> jared_, I think so I have a recent version of the drivers and I don't have the NonAccel option in the xorg.conf set, I haven't tested the 3d accel though
[10:41] <Whatsisname> use apt-get
[10:41] <j-linux> nickrud: Do I have to do something with permissions?  I tried to navigate into /mnt/sdb1 after mounting and it says I don't have permissions...:S
[10:41] <Whatsisname> and install bchunk
[10:41] <Whatsisname> use bchunk to convert the bin/cue to an iso
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[10:41] <Catala> hello can i help me
[10:41] <Whatsisname> then mount it, with -t iso9660 not msdos
[10:41] <nickrud> j-linux: yeah, read that wiki page. it covers that 
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> and any program which manages iso-s from gui
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[10:42] <Whatsisname> no
[10:42] <Whatsisname> there aren't
[10:42] <Mosi> SL|warlock: you can make it world writable, but it could be a bad idea. it'll work, but it might open up a security vulnerability through Apache. not a gaping one, but still.
[10:42] <Whatsisname> because noones ever going to bother
[10:42] <Whatsisname> also
[10:42] <Whatsisname> don't specify a loop device
[10:42] <jared_> GFDL, Alright, thank you.  I'll do a bit more googling before I dive into it.  But glad to hear from a human ;)  Thanks again.
[10:42] <Whatsisname> just use -o loop
[10:42] <Whatsisname> the mount utility will take care of picking which loopback device
[10:42] <j-linux> nickrud: ok, thanks.
[10:42] <GFDL> jared_, ok, good luck
[10:42] <SL|warlock> Mosi, i'll handle it , 1sec.
[10:43] <Catala> http://pastebin.com/598531 <--This is my error please
[10:43] <suppaman> hi
[10:43] <nickrud> j-linux: it explains it better than I can
[10:43] <aeolist> Whatsisname, can you help me?
[10:43] <max300> im trying to install a program but wen i type ./configure it says "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[10:43] <suppaman> how can I know from what repository in my sources.list a package came from ?
[10:44] <SL|warlock> what i was looking for was chmod 777 filename
[10:44] <SL|warlock> -_-
[10:44] <jordan> how the freak do u even install stuff?
[10:44] <_jason> suppaman: apt-cache policy packagename
[10:44] <Whatsisname> aeolist, i don't think so I've never attempted to record from multiple inputs
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell jordan about synaptic
[10:44] <SL|warlock> argv512, i figured it out - thanks alot !
[10:44] <Mosi> SL|warlock: i could have told you that right off, but the idea of doing that to webserver file makes me cringe
[10:44] <Whatsisname> I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult with multiple soundcards
[10:44] <suppaman> _jason: thanks
[10:44] <j-linux> nickrud: It looks like a good page... I was so eager to mount the drive that I went to the terminal before checking that page... thanks for pointing the page out to me...
[10:44] <Whatsisname> but beyond that I don't know
[10:44] <max300> no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:44] <Whatsisname> max30 you don't have gcc installed
[10:44] <_jason> max300: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[10:44] <Whatsisname> install it with apt-get
[10:45] <jordan> how  do u install AIM
[10:45] <jordan> ?
[10:45] <Mosi> SL|warlock: but if you're gonna do it anyways, sorry for wasting your time.. ^_^;
[10:45] <NegativeSpace> How can I move the contents of a folder into another folder?
[10:45] <_jason> jordan: you have gaim in applications menu > internet
[10:45] <TheGuitar> hi maxx300
[10:45] <p01n7> mv ./* /folder/
[10:45] <iceman> shoot, what channel to join to build onto a very strange linux install ...
[10:45] <suppaman> btw why hasn't apitutde the "source" option ?
[10:45] <jordan> huh?
[10:45] <Whatsisname> what the hell when did this aptitude / apt-get renaming shenanigans come about
[10:45] <maxus> hm
[10:45] <aeolist> is there an apt-get log somewhere?
[10:45] <NegativeSpace> p01n7 Cheers.
[10:45] <jordan> o ok thax
[10:45] <jordan> thanx**
[10:45] <SL|warlock> no Mosi, but thank you bigtimes for even trying :)
[10:45] <p01n7> np
[10:45] <jordan> i got it
[10:45] <SL|warlock> highly appriciated mate.
[10:46] <Mosi> SL|warlock: heh, no worries
[10:46] <Francisco> nickrud, I have done."
[10:46] <SL|warlock> http://dust2.mine.nu/status/
[10:46] <SL|warlock> that's how its supposed to look
[10:47] <SL|warlock> :)
[10:47] <Francisco> nickrud, so it have removed at all kde.. amarok too and all I have from kde..
[10:47] <Mosi_vaccuuming> SL|warlock: grats :)
[10:47] <SL|warlock> thanks, just remaking it though
[10:47] <jimm1> hi, does ubuntu not come pre-installed with gftp? i can't find it in the 'add application' program either?
[10:47] <max300> TheGuitar,do i know u?
[10:47] <Whatsisname> jimm1 just type sudo apt-get install gftp
[10:47] <Whatsisname> just use apt-get to use it
[10:47] <jordan> how do i install Microsoft Office?
[10:47] <Whatsisname> *err to install it
[10:47] <jimm1> thanx
[10:47] <GFDL> jordan, what_
[10:48] <jared_> jordan, Have you taken a look at Open Office?
[10:48] <Whatsisname> jordan don't, use open office, its better and its free as in freedom
[10:48] <trent> How do I force eject a cd drive that is in use?
[10:48] <trent> or "busy"
[10:48] <Whatsisname> trent you have to make sure nothing is using it
[10:48] <Whatsisname> then eject /dev/hdX
[10:48] <p01n7> eject -t?
[10:48] <trent> Whatsisname, What if it has to be in use while I want to eject.
[10:48] <trent> See I am installing a app that requires 2 discs.
[10:48] <Whatsisname> make sure no bash shells are in the cdroms mounted directory and stuff
[10:48] <Mosi_vaccuuming> trent: sudo su - ; eject -t; exit
[10:48] <nickrud> Francisco: you said all. If you want just amarok, install amarok. You don't need all of kde
[10:48] <msg43> Heloo
[10:49] <Whatsisname> otherwise you'll have to do a force unmount then eject it
[10:49] <msg43> How can I check the version of a ubuntu cd I have that I burned
[10:49] <max300> the cammand "grep gcc /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat" doesnt do anything
[10:49] <jordan> will open office files.. be able to open on the windows operating system?
[10:49] <trent> Mosi_vaccuuming, No go.] 
[10:49] <trent> -t closes a drive.
[10:49] <Whatsisname> jordan, sort of
[10:49] <Whatsisname> you can save them in the secret proprietary office format
[10:49] <jared_> jordan, Open Office can save as MS docs.
[10:49] <jordan> u serious?
[10:49] <HymnToLife> jordan> of course, if you save them in a proper format (RTF or doc)
[10:50] <trent> Whatsisname, Would force unmount and remount work?
[10:50] <jared_> jordan, Yes.
[10:50] <jordan> sweet
[10:50] <jared_> jordan, :)
[10:50] <nickrud> jordan: sometimes. If you need access to ms office, look at crossover office. It used to work well, probably still does.
[10:50] <Whatsisname> although you'll have to take care to format them properly otherwise when they are opened on the windows machine they might look a tad strange but its not a huge deal
[10:50] <Whatsisname> trent, i would expect it to
[10:50] <gnomefreak> msg43: where did you get iso from?
[10:50] <jordan> k how do i network this computer?
[10:50] <jordan> with my others
[10:50] <drake2> or open them on openoffice on windows
[10:50] <shachaf> nickrud: MS Office runs under regular WINE too, doesn't it?
[10:50] <trent> oh I got it.
[10:51] <trent> eject -m cdrom0
[10:51] <shachaf> nickrud: I remember doing that a while ago.
[10:51] <jared_> jordan, Define "network"
[10:51] <IceTox> Hello, where do I set the root passwd in ubuntu? I'm not used to a distro without an active root
[10:51] <msg43> gnomefreak, never mind I found out th eversion
[10:51] <jared_> jordan, As in share folders?
[10:51] <jordan> eyah
[10:51] <jordan> yeah**
[10:51] <Whatsisname> drake2's suggestion is good, install openoffice on winders
[10:51] <msg43> gnomefreak, I'm helping a friend install ubuntu in vmware
[10:51] <argv512> IceTox, sudo passwd
[10:51] <gnomefreak> shachaf: hmmmmmm thats not a good idea if it does but i dont thin it does
[10:51] <jared_> !tell IceTox about root
[10:51] <polpak> !samba
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:51] <nickrud> shachaf: probably with some work. The only reason I'd use msoffice was if it was mission critical, and wine is alpha
[10:51] <jordan> yeah, share files
[10:51] <IceTox> argv512: yeah, but where do I find the root passwd?
[10:51] <_jason> IceTox: don't run 'sudo passwd', read what the bot sent you first
[10:51] <gnomefreak> !root
[10:51] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:51] <polpak> !tell jared_ about samba
[10:52] <IceTox> ah, nevermind argv512... I got it.. :-)
[10:52] <j-linux> I need to change grub so that my hd1 becomes hd0 and vice versa.  Is this the right procedure that I am looking for: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows (just want to make sure I don't end up with a non-bootable system)
[10:52] <jared_> polpak, I know about Samba ;) Thanks.
[10:52] <jordan> how do i network them to share files?
[10:52] <jared_> !tell jordan about samba
[10:52] <polpak> jared_: whoops
[10:52] <jared_> jordan, take a look see at what ubotu sent you.
[10:53] <shachaf> nickrud: Actually, when I did, it a while ago (I don't even remember what distribution I was running), it worked out of the box.
[10:53] <jordan> they sent me a CD
[10:53] <jordan> lol
[10:53] <jared_> jordan, (on the tabs)
[10:53] <SAM_theman> yo my nvidia driver is giving me problems
[10:53] <jordan> what tabs?
[10:53] <shachaf> nickrud: Though MS Office was already installed in a Windows partition, and the installation is probably the hardest part.
[10:53] <jared_> jordan, Assuming you are using Xchat, under where you insert your text.
[10:53] <Overand> what command-line app can i use to look up the reverse dns entry from an IP?
[10:54] <nickrud> shachaf: luckily, I don't need too 
[10:54] <Overand> apparently it's 'host'
[10:55] <Catala> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[10:55] <Catala> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[10:55] <Catala> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[10:55] <Catala> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[10:55] <Catala> what is this error ?
[10:55] <Catala> plase
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Catala: please dont paste in here use pastebin
[10:56] <jared_> !tell Catala about pastebin
[10:56] <Catala> sorry
[10:56] <maxus> how can i change my monitor refreshrate ?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Catala: install the restricted kernel mods for your kernel
[10:56] <aeolist> maxus, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <sorush20> guys I keep getting the message that I can't save to my folders.. I get the message when I try to do this with ksnapshot
[10:56] <Catala> gnomefreak it have !
[10:56] <jordan> im using gaim
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Catala: did you reboot after you installed it?
[10:57] <jordan> not xchat..
[10:57] <maxus> aoelist ... ok ... but im a mega n00b with this :p ...
[10:57] <NegativeSpace> When I try and install something it tells me I can't install it because it needs another package, so I search for that package and it doesn't turn up any results. Any ideas wy?
[10:57] <msg43> can somone tell me if the repos have vmware tools?
[10:57] <aeolist> maxus, no, sorry, that's for typing in the frequencies, go to system -> preferences -> screen reso
[10:57] <jordan> I am Using GAIM not Xchat!!
[10:57] <NegativeSpace> why*
[10:57] <jared_> jordan, Yea..why? :P
[10:57] <jared_> here Jordan, look at this
[10:58] <jared_> !samba
[10:58] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:58] <msg43> would someone tell me if ubuntu has vmware-tools?
[10:58] <ubuntu_> msg43: vmwares tools come with vmware
[10:58] <graveson> when logging X my complete display hangs.what is the command to reconfigure X
[10:58] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: are you talking about installing something from the ubuntu repositories?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> msg43: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <msg43> gnomefreak, ok thanks
[10:58] <jordan> how do i share files with my other computers?
[10:58] <msg43> ubuntu_, so it not in the repo's?
[10:58] <jared_> jordan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[10:58] <pilly> jordan: setup samba
[10:58] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Yeah, using Synaptic Package Manager -- I thought I had it searching the universe and multiverse, but it can't find this package.
[10:58] <gnomefreak> msg43: that site will tell you also apt-cache search vmware will tell you
[10:58] <maxus> it says only 60hz and im sure it can run @ 75.
[10:59] <ubuntu_> msg43: read the vmware docs on how to install vmware tools
[10:59] <maxus> getting a headache here :/
[10:59] <odat> hello everyone
[10:59] <msg43> ubuntu_, I'm helping my fried via instanst messanger
[10:59] <pilly> jordan: swat is a good config tool for samba
[10:59] <odat> i am having a problem with gedit loading and or opening eachtime i startup
[10:59] <msg43> hes a noob with linux
[10:59] <msg43> and  I just happen not to use ubuntu
[10:59] <jordan> where do i get swat..
[10:59] <jordan> ?
[10:59] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: how about putting your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[10:59] <mikeazorin> HELLo
[10:59] <p01n7> jordan: i dont need to shre much.. so just use an ftp server
[10:59] <mikeazorin> hello
[10:59] <gnomefreak> nickrud: is it not polite to bet on the issue?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:00] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: I think this is where we left off last time 
[11:00] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Heh heh.
[11:00] <IceTox> is there non ssh installed at ubuntu?
[11:00] <nickrud> gnomefreak: NegativeSpace rflol
[11:00] <_jason> ubuntu_: tell IceTox about ssh
[11:00] <SAM_theman> my sound is not working
[11:00] <gnomefreak> NegativeSpace: more than likely you added the multiverse backports
[11:00] <NegativeSpace> gnomefreak ?
[11:00] <pilly> jordan: open synaptec.... search for samba and swat
[11:00] <graveson> anyone can help me to reconfigure X ,i need to change to VESA ,so at least UBUNTU can login
[11:00] <jordan> aight
[11:00] <SAM_theman> i can't hear music or my games on the sound themes
[11:00] <NegativeSpace> gnomefreak Dude I'm a newbie, I don't know what I'm doing.
[11:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell IceTox about ssh
[11:00] <IceTox> didn't get that _jason
[11:01] <IceTox> there ya go :-)
[11:01] <SAM_theman> *ONLY  the sound themes
[11:01] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: he's just named the most likely problem. and we know ;p
[11:01] <odat> i am having a problem with gedit loading and or opening eachtime i startup
[11:01] <ubuntu_> !ssh
[11:01] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:01] <cwillu> whats the command to change swappiness again?
[11:01] <SAM_theman> ------- sound initialization -------
[11:01] <SAM_theman> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[11:01] <SAM_theman> Could not open /dev/dsp
[11:01] <jordan> k  i searched it what now?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> NegativeSpace: thats why we use pastebin so others can help (its nothing against you) lately everyoine has been doing it
[11:01] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Will I get kicked for pasting this much?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SAM_theman about pastebin
[11:01] <SAM_theman> srry
[11:02] <jordan> what do i do after searching it?
[11:02] <graveson> anyone know the dpkg command to reconfigure X :(
[11:02] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Never mind.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> graveson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:02] <passantino> wo gieb es einen deuschen chat??????
[11:02] <teknopath> can someone do me a favor,  go to redgate.b0ne.com and check to see if I have apache configed correctly I need to check from outside my network?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !de
[11:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:02] <jordan> what do i do after searching samba?
[11:02] <_jason> teknopath: I see you
[11:02] <teknopath> thank you
[11:02] <passantino> wo finde ich es
[11:02] <polpak> cwillu: To tune, simply echo a value from 0 to 100 onto /proc/sys/vm/swappiness. The higher a number set here, the more the system will swap.
[11:03] <graveson> thank you gnome freak
[11:03] <gnomefreak> yw graveson
[11:03] <comradevik> is it safe to delete /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat
[11:03] <jordan>  what do i do after searching samba?
[11:03] <Catala> gnomefreak i have a kernel-restricted-modules oK !
[11:03] <gargas> hi are there any ati vga cards linux drivers?
[11:03] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: (was gone for a sec) asolute tutely 
[11:03] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay I posted it.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> comradevik: if you have to ask i would say no but i dont know that file
[11:03] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: now paste the one line link here, so I can see it
[11:03] <pilly> jordan: priv message...
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Catala: you still havent answered my question
[11:03] <jordan> k
[11:03] <FICKA> hello
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Catala: did you reboot after you installed them?
[11:04] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay but don't laugh if I've noobed up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10086
[11:04] <comradevik> gnomefreak it contains your root password available for everyone to see
[11:04] <AMDXP> whew i made it back
[11:04] <aeolist> graveson, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[11:04] <FICKA> i would like to know how to install ubuntu on a fast trak 100 raid controller
[11:04] <Tonus> gnomefreak, you should know that file as of today, if you have a breezy or once-was-breezy system. check out https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606
[11:04] <Catala> gnomefreak sorry ,  i have only speek english a bit
[11:04] <Catala> xD
[11:04] <max300> i got this error "ERROR!  Libpcre header not found, go get it from
[11:04] <Catala> how is your question ?
[11:05] <max300>    http://www.pcre.org
[11:05] <max300> "so i went to this link but it gave me all these things to download and i dont know wich to get
[11:05] <Catala> sorry xD
[11:05] <FICKA> i would like to know how to install ubuntu on a fast trak 100 raid controller
[11:05] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: not bad, but you have multiverse universe referenced twice. I've seen that cause people problems.
[11:05] <gargas> How to install ati Graphics Driver
[11:05] <odat> i am having a problem with gedit loading and or opening eachtime i startup
[11:05] <ssam> Tonus, changing your password will make you safe
[11:05] <pilly> jordan: what irc client you in?
[11:05] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: I'm not sure how to do this in synaptic, so:
[11:05] <FICKA> who??
[11:06] <jordan> how do i open samba?
[11:06] <Tonus> ssam, did that on my once-was-breezy system indeed.
[11:06] <cwillu> on _ubuntu_ how do you change swappiness (it's not just echo, there's some command you need)
[11:06] <max300> gargas: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search it
[11:06] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Can I just rename the file?
[11:06] <jordan> how do i open samba?
[11:06] <FICKA> is there someone that can help me??
[11:06] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Edit, rather*
[11:06] <General_Error> Hey, does anyone have any advice installing VLC, it needs the ffmpeg thingy but that wont install either
[11:06] <Catala> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10087
[11:06] <Tonus> ssam, shamefull 'bug' though. :/
[11:06] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: edit, exactly. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and put a # at the beginning of the first two lines of text
[11:06] <bimberi> jordan: you can configure samba shares via System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[11:06] <FICKA> is there someone that can help me??
[11:07] <gnomefreak> i would wait its a securty item it should have a patch released for the password issue
[11:07] <pilly> jordan: i'll help you but I'll do it in private so I can keep up with the conversation
[11:07] <ssam> Tonus, yes, but it did not seem to get my computer
[11:07] <jordan> alright
[11:07] <jordan> thx
[11:07] <synd> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334
[11:07] <synd> ?
[11:07] <pilly> jordan: check your private messages...
[11:07] <jordan> how?
[11:07] <FICKA> is there someone that can help me?? inj installing ubuntu on raid controller?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Catala: what language are you more comfortable with?
[11:08] <ssam> i think there will be an update very quickly, but until then changing your password is a good idea
[11:08] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay, let's see if this works.
[11:08] <PieR> ssam: update to ?
[11:08] <Tonus> gnomefreak, waiting for an official solution is always best. but sometimes the risk is so high that you can't wait. eg. if you run a shell server in this case.
[11:08] <pilly> jordan: do you see my name in red near the bottom?
[11:08] <jordan> i c oubotu
[11:08] <in_itsero> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[11:08] <cwillu> sudo sysctl vm/swappiness <value>
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Tonus: i understand but me personally not sure if that file is deletable
[11:08] <FICKA> is there someone that can help me?? in installing ubuntu on a fasttrak 100 raid controller?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> sobs are still at it
[11:09] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Nooo.
[11:09] <FICKA>  is there someone that can help me?? in installing ubuntu on a fasttrak 100 raid controller?
[11:09] <PieR> fasttrak = " software raid on a card " :/
[11:09] <Tonus> gnomefreak, i simply changed my pass there to 'foo' and changed my user-pass with passwd as usual.
[11:09] <Catala> gnomefreak speack spanis h ?
[11:09] <tritium> FICKA: no need to repeat yourself
[11:09] <tritium> !es
[11:09] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: did you hit reload on synaptic first?
[11:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:09] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Yeah.
[11:09] <PieR> !it
[11:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:09] <FICKA> ok sry
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Catala: join #ubuntu-es
[11:09] <Catala> a ok
[11:09] <p01n7> odat, in KDE its in .kde/Autstart/ where you should look.. im not to sure about gnome though
[11:10] <Catala> xDDD
[11:10] <pilly> jordan: do you see my name is red at the bottom of your irc window?
[11:10] <NegativeSpace> nickrud I want oKle, which wants ogle-mmx, which wants liba52-0.7.4, which is the one it can't find.
[11:10] <Catala> i didin't have the solution !
[11:10] <Catala> xD
[11:10] <NegativeSpace> okle*
[11:10] <jordan> its not..
[11:10] <jordan> red
[11:10] <pilly> well wahtever click on it
[11:11] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: let me wipe this egg off
[11:11] <raindog> I have a 40GB hard drive with an XP install on it.  I'm trying to use the ubuntu partitioning tool within the installer to manually resize the existing partition and then create an ext3 partition and a FAT32 partition from the freespace created.
[11:11] <setuid> How do I stop Breezy from trying to bring up eth0 every time it boots?
[11:11] <p01n7> anyone know where gnome saves the apps to load at start?
[11:11] <jordan> i dont even see it...
[11:11] <setuid> it causes a 3-4 minute delay in boot time
[11:11] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Good idea, egg is bad.
[11:11] <p01n7> odat wants to know why gedit always starts with gnome
[11:11] <odat> i am having a problem with gedit loading and or opening eachtime i startup
[11:11] <raindog> When I adjust the partition size it appears to do nothing but return to the same menu screen.  Any ideas?
[11:11] <p01n7> if someone could please help him that would be great
[11:11] <jp1962> Evolution Question: Howto import Outlook 2002 contacts?
[11:12] <bimberi> setuid: look for a the line 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces and comment/remove it
[11:12] <nickrud> I've bitched about this for almost a year now, ubuntu's sources are *hard to read*
[11:12] <tritium> odat: did you logout and save your session when it was running?
[11:12] <bimberi> s/a the/a/
[11:12] <setuid> n/m, I found it...
[11:12] <ideaone> hey ppl=)
[11:12] <jordan> i need help!! soneone please help me
[11:12] <Catala> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10087 It can look at this error please
[11:12] <setuid> I wonder why the gnome-panel applet allows me to "Disable" the interface, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Breezy at all
[11:12] <Catala> i use a traductor xD
[11:12] <odat> tritium, i dunno how it happened but it opens everytime now
[11:12] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: on lines 3 & 4, remove the # you just added, and change universe multiverse to main restricted
[11:13] <tritium> odat: have you tried killing it, and logging out, saving your session when you do so?
[11:13] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay.
[11:13] <pilly> jordan: I've tried to help you I will if we can do it 1 on 1
[11:13] <odat> tritium, you mean closing it then logging out?
[11:13] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: thanks for the exact error message, I was able to zero right in on my mistake
[11:13] <pilly> jordan accept dcc chat
[11:13] <ideaone> anyone here familiar with installing ubuntu without a cd drive? few questions for u that the tutorials cant answer if anyone can help?
[11:14] <jordan> theres nothing asking me to accept..
[11:14] <tritium> odat: yes, but beyond just closing it, make sure there are no gedit processes running
[11:14] <odat> tritium, whats the kill command    i forget
[11:14] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Well ultimately it's for my benefit.
[11:14] <tritium> kill, odat
[11:14] <martii> ideaone: floppy?
[11:14] <pilly> jordan: what irc client you using?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> gaim he said
[11:15] <ideaone> yea got floppy drive
[11:15] <jordan> xchat
[11:15] <nickrud> NegativeSpace: exact errors really help, it saves a lot of time
[11:15] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Man you are so awesome.
[11:15] <ideaone> ive tried numerous different ways all to no avail
[11:15] <pilly> look at the bottom of the screen it'll say freenode  then #ubuntu then what??
[11:15] <cwillu> nickrud:  amazing how poor of a terminal humans make :)
[11:16] <odat> THAT DID DO JACK
[11:16] <nickrud> cwillu: that's the uncertainty that makes life fun
[11:16] <odat> ooops
[11:16] <odat> that didn't do anything
[11:16] <pilly> jordan: look at the bottom of the screen it'll say freenode  then #ubuntu then what??
[11:16] <odat> gedit still opens
[11:17] <martii> ideaone: are you talking ab out breezy install ?
[11:17] <ideaone> yep
[11:17] <gnomefreak> odat: did you go into system>preff>sessions>startup and delete gedit from there?
[11:17] <cwillu> nickrud:  I think I might have to hack eliza into bash :p
[11:17] <pilly> jordan: if you want help you have to help me help you....
[11:18] <_jason> odat: you've checked your session preferences?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> pilly: lol
[11:18] <odat> gnomefreak, there is nothing related to gedit in there
[11:18] <pilly> argh!!! wahtever......
[11:18] <nickrud> cwillu: I would swear, if it were permitted :P
[11:18] <pilly> some ppl should stay in bed with bill
[11:18] <jp1962> Anyone have info on importing OUTLOOK contacts into EVOLUTION? - tks!
[11:18] <aeolist> is there a log of apt-get's activity?
[11:18] <odat> _jason, nothing related to gedit in there
[11:18] <tritium> jp1962: check out outport (google)
[11:18] <suppaman> bye
[11:18] <tritium> suppaman: going to eat your suppa?
[11:19] <jp1962> tritium - outport - will do, thanks!
[11:19] <gnomefreak> aeolist: you can type history in terminal
[11:19] <suppaman> tritium: is that a joke ?
[11:19] <tritium> well, you did say "bye"
[11:19] <suppaman> tritium: indeed it has some sense even in my language
[11:19] <suppaman> like suppa/soup
[11:19] <vmware> hellooo
[11:20] <tritium> sounds like "supper", suppaman
[11:20] <bimberi> aeolist: no, but there is /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:20] <vmware> hello from italy
[11:20] <aeolist> gnomefreak, that's not what i am looking for... i have already removed the program, nw i want to remove it's dependencies
[11:20] <I586> i have get error with  windowsxp i reinstal it
[11:20] <graveson> is anyone aware of this issue with ubuntu where the incorrect kernel is installed ie 386 instead of 686
[11:20] <martii> ideaone: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[11:20] <ubuntu> hi, i have a problem
[11:20] <ideaone> martii: basically im tryin to install on a old omnibook, with just a floppy drive and a wireless network card, i also have a 2.5" to 3.5" ide cable so i can use to hdd on my windows box and ive tried all the tutorials ways but havnt had any luck yet
[11:20] <cwillu> graveson: I'm not sure, but I don't think it actually detects the optimized kernels automatically
[11:21] <tritium> graveson: that's the default install.  If you want, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[11:21] <IdleOne> aeolist>  apt-get --purge remove program
[11:21] <Gambit-> hey guys
[11:21] <martii> ideaone: the best idea then
[11:21] <bimberi> graveson: 386 runs on more PCs so the CD ships with it only.  Other kernels can be downloaded
[11:21] <jordan> hey pilly can u try that again
[11:21] <ubuntu> what that means Error 17 ?!
[11:21] <martii> is to take harddrive out
[11:21] <gnomefreak> psssssst IdleOne that doesnt get rid of depends
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: grub?
[11:21] <eva_> What repository do I need to get supertux 0.1.3?
[11:21] <martii> ideaone: install somewhere else
[11:21] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  what does ?
[11:21] <suppaman> tritium: anyway I'm gonna sleeping
[11:21] <suppaman> bye
[11:21] <Gambit-> I'm trying to get ddns working with dhcpd3 and bind9, but dhcpd3 is giving me a "can't open rndc.key: Permission Denied" error unless I make my rndc.key file globally readable... Any clues?
[11:21] <martii> ideaone: and finetune
[11:21] <I586> i have get error with  windowsxp i reinstal it but now the   grub is not appear  linux is dissapear why
[11:21] <I586> ?
[11:21] <cwillu> gambit, how are you running it?
[11:21] <martii> ideaone: on omnibook
[11:22] <gnomefreak> lol IdleOne i havent found anything try man apt or man dpkg
[11:22] <eva_> Which repository do I need to get supertux 0.1.3?
[11:22] <graveson> thanks bimberi
[11:22] <Gambit-> cwillu, Both on boot and by hand from the init.d script
[11:22] <ubuntu> gnomefreak, and what i supost to do?
[11:22] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  I cant be bothered lmao
[11:22] <bimberi> graveson: np :)
[11:22] <cwillu> Gambit-:  what user?
[11:22] <Mastastealth> hey, anyone know what would cause X-chat (in Dapper) not to connect online?
[11:22] <tritium> aeolist: aptitude keeps a log, but not apt-get
[11:22] <Mastastealth> i have to use Chatzilla...
[11:22] <pilly> i586: you need to reinstall your boot loader
[11:22] <Gambit-> cwillu, root, but I tried su'ing over to dhcpd and I can cat the file.
[11:22] <cwillu> Gambit-: i.e., double check that the ownership is right
[11:22] <I586> how
[11:22] <tritium> Mastastealth: dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <jordan> PILLY help!!!!
[11:22] <Gambit-> cwillu, the file is group named, of which dhcpd and bind are both members.
[11:23] <IdleOne> Gambit->  you in Isreal?
[11:23] <Gambit-> ideaone, nope
[11:23] <IdleOne> ok nm
[11:23] <iocaste> ugh... the breezy security bug is gonna be all over the web in no time
[11:23] <Mastastealth> Gambit, you ever play BF1942? :X
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntu abotu grub
[11:23] <Gambit-> Mastastealth, Nope.
[11:23] <pilly> get a live cd  (do you use lilo or grub)
[11:23] <gnomefreak> read that find the error and find the fix
[11:23] <_jason> aeolist: well you can list depends with apt-cache depends, but to remove them automatically I only know aptitude will do so if you installed it using aptitude
[11:23] <eva_> Nobody here uses supertux?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> !info supertux
[11:23] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[11:23] <aeolist> ok _jason, thanks
[11:24] <ideaone> martii: i tried that first as i thought would be best idea, but when i put the hdd back in the omnibook it kept coming up with errors and then dropped to a shell
[11:24] <gnomefreak> eva_: you need universe enabled
[11:24] <IdleOne> !tell ubuntu  about grub
[11:24] <Gambit-> cwillu, any other tips?
[11:24] <cwillu> :/  not really;
[11:24] <eva_> gnomefreak, I have and i use breezy, but version 0.1.2 doesn't have the new levels
[11:24] <toko123> anyone here running vmware
[11:24] <ltR^> is it safe to run drapper?
[11:24] <pilly> i586: do you use lilo or grub??
[11:24] <martii> ideaone: what errors?
[11:25] <IdleOne> ltR^>  yeah at your own risk :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> eva_: than it looks like alot of work
[11:25] <Gambit-> cwillu, This is a real pisser :/
[11:25] <bipolar> toko123: yes, I do.
[11:25] <cwillu> Gambit-:  my guess would be that it's spawning a process as nobody or something, but that's just a guess :)
[11:25] <ideaone> martii: one sec ill just find them
[11:25] <p01n7> odat.. im not on ubuntu now.. or gnome for that matter.. but does ~/.gnome/session exist?
[11:25] <bimberi> aeolist: debfoster and deborphan may be of use to you as well
[11:25] <gnomefreak> eva_: you will have to compile the version you want if not that version
[11:25] <eva_> gnomefreak, but there must be some repository that has it?
[11:25] <Gambit-> cwillu, if it is, it shows up as dhcpd later on, which is nonsensical.
[11:25] <ltR^> is there transparacy and stuff in drapper?
[11:25] <durga> how do i minimize evolution to the system tray ?
[11:25] <tritium> ltR^: there is definitely stuff
[11:25] <cwillu> :/
[11:25] <eva_> gnomefreak, version 0.1.3 has been aout like half a year now!!
[11:26] <aeolist> ok bimberi, will look in that too thanks you
[11:26] <IdleOne> ltR^>  join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[11:26] <gnomefreak> eva_: you can check packages.ubuntu.com under breezy
[11:26] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[11:26] <ltR^> i saw a demo that novel did
[11:26] <dabaR_> Ya, not sure about the transparency, but there sure is stuff.
[11:26] <tritium> bimberi: heh :)
[11:26] <bimberi> aeolist: np :)
[11:26] <toko123> bipolar, just tried to get it working using latest .rpm and alien vmplayer wont start says /etc/vmware/locations does not exist?
[11:26] <iocaste> can anyone tell me how i view the root password in Breezy :)
[11:26] <IdleOne> !tell iocaste about root
[11:26] <nickrud> ltR^: like IdleOne said, lots of pie 
[11:26] <bipolar> toko123: don't use the RPM. use the TGZ
[11:26] <jordan> hey how do i access files on my other computers
[11:27] <airmikey> why no ubuntu 64bit room
[11:27] <Mastastealth> supertux (with the 26 levels, which i believe is the latest) would be 0.1.3 and is in dapper
[11:27] <gnomefreak> eva_: more than likely the version you want was released after breezy so it wouldnt be included in breezy (i doubt the backports have it but on that site will tell you
[11:27] <jordan> hey how do i access files on my other computers, they aer networked through Samba
[11:27] <toko123> bipolar, tried that but got error libpng12.so missing?
[11:27] <Mastastealth> jordan: Places -> network Servers?
[11:27] <p01n7> jordan, i use 'mount -t smbfs //192.168.x.x/<share name here> /directory/to/mount/to
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Mastastealth: yes but that doesnt help someone on breezy
[11:28] <bipolar> toko123: apt-cache search libpng12.so to find out what package has it.
[11:28] <toko123> thanks
[11:28] <Mastastealth> ahh well, incase he wants to try packages from dapper...dont know how many dependies are involved tho
[11:28] <eva_> gnomefreak, But there is no unsupported repository that may have it?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> never mix dapper and breezy repos
[11:28] <jordan> thanx dude
[11:28] <eva_> gnomefreak, Where can I find some unsupported repositories?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> eva_: adding the dapper repo may get you it but it _will_ bork your system
[11:29] <iocaste> IdleOne: guess you haven't seen the major bug news then?
[11:29] <ltR^> im going back to linux, how big should the partition be?
[11:29] <I586> gnomefreak,  how i reinstall grub in  my pc
[11:29] <ltR^> i'm running it with windows
[11:29] <airmikey> breezy sees any connected to my 1.1 usb port..but not my 2.0 usb..how do i fix that ?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> eva_: go to the website and see if there is a way to get it
[11:29] <eva_> gnomefreak, I don't want to bork my system
[11:29] <ltR^> 20 gigs?
[11:29] <graveson> how do i download the 686 kernel ,the command i am using "sudo apt-get install linux-686" is not working
[11:29] <dabaR_> ltR^: sure, that will work.
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell I586 about grub
[11:29] <IdleOne> iocaste>  bug news about?
[11:29] <tritium> graveson: that's how you do it
[11:29] <bipolar> toko123: libpng12-0 is what you want. apt install that.
[11:29] <eva_> gnomefreak, Which website?
[11:30] <p01n7> eva_, you and me both :P
[11:30] <PieR> source list generator : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:30] <tritium> graveson: have you run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> eva_: i dont know search supertux it should be there in google
[11:30] <iocaste> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Administrator_root_password_readable_in_cleartext_on_Ubuntu_Breezy
[11:30] <Mastastealth> there was apparently a site that had supertux ubuntu debs, buts its been down since Feb
[11:30] <sumon> I am from canada . I am facing problem in download
[11:30] <NegativeSpace> Whereabouts are the files downloaded for installing applications stored?
[11:31] <_jason> sumon: downloading what?
[11:31] <IdleOne> iocaste>  yeah I saw it . that bug is fixed in Dapper iirc
[11:31] <sumon> Is there any other way to change my download location?
[11:31] <pilly> I have a small home network with 4 pc's (3 linux) assigned ip's by dhcp (so ip's aren't constant) how can I get the machines to respond by hostname?? I've tried samba wins is there another way?
[11:31] <eva_> gnomefreak, is Dapper already released?
[11:31] <sumon> ndiswrapper
[11:31] <gnomefreak> eva_: no
[11:31] <sumon> for wirless
[11:31] <martii> ideaone: going to bed sorry
[11:31] <nuambenzina> I have an old videocard, onboard (alladin TNT2) what video drivers do you guys recommand? those from nvidia.com or those from synaptic ?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> and its looking 6 weeks later also
[11:31] <gnomefreak> sumon: how are you downloading it?
[11:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell sumon about ndiswrapper
[11:31] <tritium> gnomefreak: assuming the vote goes that way
[11:32] <gnomefreak> tritium: yes i will be there to watch and prolly add my 2 cents
[11:32] <airmikey> oh well guess breezy isnt ready for high speed 2.0 usb yet
[11:32] <tritium> gnomefreak: good :)
[11:32] <nickrud> it does make sense, 5 years is a long time
[11:32] <sumon> it's saying some are not dowloaded for server
[11:32] <gnomefreak> sumon: how are you downloading it using apt-get using ff?
[11:32] <IdleOne> tritium>  when is this meeting I would like to attend if allowed ?
[11:32] <b33r> hello how can I make the font larger in unbuntu?
[11:32] <sumon> can I change my download server
[11:32] <sumon> yah
[11:32] <tritium> nickrud: yeah, especially in dog years
[11:32] <gnomefreak> i give up
[11:33] <bimberi> nickrud: but ...  the congruence ...  (April 20) :)
[11:33] <mp3guy> I think everyone should see this, if you haven't already; https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606
[11:33] <nickrud> bimberi: I backspaced 
[11:33] <tritium> mp3guy: it's being addressed
[11:33] <gnomefreak> sumon: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[11:33] <sumon> it's really uncomfortable os.
[11:33] <nickrud> bimberi: but thanks
[11:33] <I586> type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install :(where is my root install?)
[11:33] <sumon> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:33] <mp3guy> tritium, will we have to wait for dapper, or will an update through synaptic do it?
[11:34] <sumon> sudo apt-get update after run this
[11:34] <V4Vendetta> mp3guy, i'd wait
[11:34] <bimberi> nickrud: not sure if you understood, i'm talking birthdays :)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> sumon: help me by doing as i asked please that is the only way we can help you
[11:34] <tritium> mp3guy: you can even 1) change your password, or 2) remove the file
[11:34] <ideaone> anyone here familiar with installing ubuntu without a cd drive? few questions for u that the tutorials cant answer if anyone can help?
[11:34] <I586> gnomefreak
[11:34] <sumon> how can i do it
[11:34] <nickrud> bimberi: yeah, it is, and thanks for remembering 
[11:34] <gnomefreak> I586: what?
[11:35] <sumon> actually i m new user
[11:35] <I586> type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install :(where is my root install?)
[11:35] <forteller> Hi! I'm a linux newbee and I've got a problem with Firefox after trying to upgrade it manually folowing an instruction at ubuntux. Anyone that would like to help me..? :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> sumon: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the contents to pastebin please
[11:35] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:35] <tritium> I586: the partition where your / is mounted
[11:35] <bipolar> that bug is bad, but not THAT bad. anyone with physical access to a box can get root anyway, so unless you are using remote accounts its no big deal. worst case, just change your password.
[11:35] <bimberi> nickrud: ha, np :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> I586: /
[11:35] <tritium> bipolar: yes, my friend
[11:35] <gnomefreak> i dont know where yours is located
[11:36] <gnomefreak> now brb i think
[11:36] <DrinuS> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13951
[11:36] <DrinuS> nice bug
[11:36] <graveson> gnomefreak : i am getting this error "E: Couldn't find package linux-686"
[11:36] <toko123> what is wrong withthis command #dpkg -r foo.deb?
[11:36] <anonregisteredni> mp3guy, lol, has my old user password
[11:36] <sumon> it's blank
[11:36] <tritium> graveson: it's  in the main repo.  Did you apt-get update as I told you to?
[11:36] <SAM_theman> hey i am running into this anyoing problem
[11:36] <remavalu> hi
[11:36] <kudeta> hello, i would like to make a shortcut for azureus in the applications menu. I was just wodnering how. to start it u have to do ./azureus, so i tried ./path/azureus but it didn't work. Anyone give me some help please?
[11:36] <SAM_theman> my sound!
[11:36] <orbitron> Using breezy (5.10).  When I plug in my USB Stick I get "error -110" in dmesg.   Tried doing pci=noacpi at grub w/ no luck
[11:36] <bipolar> graveson: I think thats linux-kernel-686 or some such.
[11:36] <SAM_theman> its not working
[11:36] <remavalu> qmake command not recognised.... make file recognised
[11:36] <tritium> no, bipolar.  linux-686 is what he wants
[11:36] <remavalu> qt-x11 installed
[11:37] <remavalu> what can I do?
[11:37] <_jason> kudeta: get rid of the initial . and give the full path
[11:37] <bipolar> tritium: ah... must have changed in dapper?
[11:37] <graveson> tritium: yes and the same thing
[11:37] <gopi> Hi I tried to install xdtv by doing, sudo apt-get install xdtv  but it said E: Couldn't find package xdtv
[11:37] <sumon> source is blank
[11:37] <kudeta> ok thanks ill try :)
[11:37] <tritium> bipolar: no, was never like that
[11:37] <pilly> I have a small home network with 4 pc's (3 linux) assigned ip's by dhcp (so ip's aren't constant) how can I get the machines to respond by hostname?? I've tried samba wins is there another way?
[11:37] <bipolar> tritium: i've got linux-image-686 on my dapper install
[11:37] <gopi> Isnt xdtv not available in repos ?
[11:37] <tritium> graveson: then you don't have even your main repo setup properly
[11:37] <remavalu> qmake not recognised.... what can I do?
[11:38] <tritium> bipolar: yes, you should also have linux-686.  The difference lies in the dependencies.  Look at them...
[11:38] <LinuxJones> pilly, assign static ip addresses
[11:38] <tritium> linux-686 will pull in the matching restricted-modules
[11:38] <andyj2> ssam, you still online?
[11:38] <graveson> tritium: this is a new distro for me ,i have this issue and an issue with my ATI card which worked with my previous distro :(
[11:39] <remavalu> why doesn't ubuntu know qmake command after qt-x11 installation?
[11:39] <pilly> Linuxjones: can't in my circumstances
[11:39] <SAM_theman> all i get is "/dev/dsp: No such file or directory"
[11:39] <tritium> graveson: there's an ATI wiki page I'll have you look at later.  First, let's get this taken care of.
[11:39] <gopi> Isnt it possible to install xdtv through apt-get command ???
[11:39] <SAM_theman> and "Could not open /dev/dsp"
[11:39] <bipolar> tritium: I see... it wants to install restricted modules with linux-686... since I use fglrx drivers from ati I can't use that, but I see the diffrence.
[11:39] <tritium> graveson: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin, and then give me the URL
[11:39] <marlun> Whats the command to get a list of all the arguments a configure file takes?
[11:39] <VictorFade> hallo
[11:39] <marlun> (When installing from source-code)
[11:39] <forteller> Hi! I'm a linux newbee and I've got a problem with Firefox (it crashes every time I open it) after trying to upgrade it manually folowing an instruction at ubuntux. Anyone that would like to help me..? :)
[11:39] <ideaone> can anyone help with installing ubuntu without a cd drive? few questions for u that the tutorials cant answer if anyone can help pls?
[11:40] <pilly> I'd like to be able to "ping hostmane" or "ssh hostmane"
[11:40] <dk>  grub-install /dev/hda
[11:40] <dk> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[11:40] <andyj2> I was online earlier (asking about XGL under Ubuntu and then disk space requirements) - I've installed Ubuntu now but I can't get my rt2500 wireless network working (it complains about Temporary failure in name resolution and says Encryption=Off in iwconfig although I've set a WPAPSK key in /etc/network/interfaces)
[11:40] <tritium> bipolar: yes, we want users to be using ubuntu fglrx packages, not ati.com downloads
[11:40] <dabaR_> ideaone: do you have a floppy drive?
[11:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Arghhh.  Anjuta is hereby boycotted for putting pop-up ads in their sourceforge page.
[11:40] <ideaone> yep
[11:40] <bipolar> marlun: usualy './configure --help'
[11:40] <tritium> graveson: you still with me?
[11:40] <SAM_theman> ubotu Could not open /dev/dsp
[11:40] <ubotu> SAM_theman: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:40] <ideaone> dabaR: basically im tryin to install on a old omnibook, with just a floppy drive and a wireless network card, i also have a 2.5" to 3.5" ide cable so i can use to hdd on my windows box and ive tried all the tutorials ways but havnt had any luck yet
[11:40] <gopi> please can anyone help me in getting xdtv ?
[11:41] <graveson> tritium: yes ,where do i paste this
[11:41] <bipolar> tritium: are the dapper fglrx drivers working now? I couldn't get them to work before, but that was about a month ago.
[11:41] <tritium> !tell graveson about paste
[11:41] <dabaR_> ideaone: well, get a debian netboot disk, and during the install set up the Ubuntu sources instead of the debian ones.
[11:41] <init> please sign the petition http://www.petitiononline.com/vorb123/petition.html
[11:41] <orbitron> Using breezy (5.10).  When I plug in my USB Stick I get "error -110" in dmesg.   Tried doing pci=noacpi at grub w/ no luck
[11:41] <tritium> bipolar: not sure.  I don't have ati hardware
[11:41] <marlun> bipolar: thanks!
[11:41] <bipolar> marlun: np
[11:41] <init> please sign the petition http://www.petitiononline.com/vorb123/petition.html
[11:41] <tritium> init: please, no soliciting here
[11:41] <andyj2> If it helps anyone, I had the rt2500 card working fine under Gentoo about an hour ago, so I know neither the card nor the AP are faulty?
[11:41] <toko123> dpkg -i foo.deb work I can't use dpkg -r foo.deb??
[11:42] <SAM_theman> ubotu "/dev/dsp: No such file or directory"
[11:42] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SAM_theman
[11:42] <bipolar> tritium: I guess I should try again. last time I asked someone said they were being fixed, but I couldn't wait :P
[11:42] <ideaone> dabaR: know where i can get a .img of that disk?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> sumon: if typed right its not blank
[11:42] <gnomefreak> sumon: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <nickrud> toko123: once you've done a dpkg -i , an apt-get remove works as well
[11:42] <VictorFade> hey, people, Seveas isn't bot?
[11:42] <dk>  grub-install /dev/hda
[11:42] <dk> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[11:42] <dk> what is this
[11:42] <gnomefreak> VictorFade: no Seveas is not a bot
[11:42] <tritium> bipolar: perhaps, except now you've got files from your ati.com download on your system, not under package management
[11:42] <VictorFade> thanks
[11:42] <toko123> nickrud, thanks
[11:42] <sumon> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:42] <sumon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:42] <sumon> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:42] <sumon> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:42] <sumon> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:42] <IdleOne> VictorFade>  we ask ourselfs that everyday :)
[11:42] <sumon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:42] <sumon> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:42] <nickrud> he just knows about as much
[11:43] <graveson> tritium: i pasted it in #flood
[11:43] <gnomefreak> sumon: i said on pastebin
[11:43] <SAM_theman> can sombody help me
[11:43] <IdleOne> !somebody
[11:43] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:43] <gopi> gnomefreak: I am trying to get xdtv through apt-get command but it said couldnt find package..... so only way to get it is to manually download and install it ?
[11:43] <bipolar> tritium: I was smart enough to have the ati packager make dapper debs :)
[11:43] <tritium> graveson: I'm not there...let me join, and please repaste after I do
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !info xdtv
[11:43] <IdleOne> gopi>  thats because it isnt in repos
[11:43] <tritium> bipolar: nice :)
[11:43] <graveson> tritium : ok
[11:43] <B_166-ER-X> how do i run a .run ??
[11:43] <argv512> Does anyone know why questions start with does anyone know why?
[11:43] <tritium> sumon: no pasting here, please
[11:43] <gopi> IdleOne: Then what to do ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> gopi: use google find a deb if not you will be compiling it
[11:44] <SAM_theman> excute ie
[11:44] <andyj2> Can someone help me convert to Ubuntu (by helping track down my wireless problem...)?
[11:44] <SAM_theman> *excute the .run file
[11:44] <sumon> sorry
[11:44] <IdleOne> gopi>  download and compile it yourself
[11:44] <gnomefreak> sumon: use pastein
[11:44] <sumon> where is pastebin
[11:44] <gnomefreak> pastebin even
[11:44] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:44] <sumon> where is pastein sir
[11:44] <SAM_theman> Right Click on it (the file) and go to permissions then selet all the exe
[11:44] <gnomefreak> sumon: see above
[11:45] <tritium> graveson: for whatever reason, your repos are all commented out.  You need to uncomment at a bare minimum the "main restricted" lines
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sumon about pastebin
[11:45] <bipolar> B_166-ER-X: you can ether chmod it and make it executable, or just use sh... 'sh ./theFileDownloaded.bin'
[11:45] <gnomefreak> sumon: its now in your pm
[11:45] <benplaut> "[ @Jesper ]  windows is really secure, they just hid the close exploits check box very well"
[11:45] <B_166-ER-X> thnkx
[11:45] <jeekl> Can someone hlp me get my ssh-server going? I'm trying to install it but I'm not sure im doing it right.
[11:45] <graveson> tritium: ok will do and then run your command again
[11:46] <gnomefreak> for windows talk please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:46] <andyj2> Is there a better place for me to ask for help about rt2500 under Ubuntu?  What about ubuntu+1 (I've seen that mentioned on here a couple of times, but I'm an Ubuntu-newbie)
[11:46] <tritium> graveson: yes, uncomment the repos you want (I'd recommend universe and multiverse as well, actually), then sudo apt-get update, then proceed as planned
[11:46] <gnomefreak> andyj2: are you on breezy?
[11:46] <tritium> graveson: I'll return shortly
[11:46] <andyj2> gnomefreak, Nope, Dapper Flight 5 (as discussed earlier regarding XGL, I think my nic was andyj - but I'm having to do this from my wife's Windows laptop)
[11:47] <JimmyPToz> Why do I have to hit the 'Reload' button in Update Manager to get the latest updates, isn't that supposed to happen automatically?
[11:47] <tritium> andyj2: #ubuntu+1 for all dapper questions
[11:47] <gnomefreak> andyj2: ask on #ubuntu+1 for dapper if not there check bugs
[11:47] <jafn> hello :) Does anyone know how compatible breezy is with Silicon Images Raid chipsets running multiple SATA drives? (not raided?)
[11:47] <haha> how do i install flash player?
[11:47] <andyj2> tritium, Fantastic - thanks :-)
[11:47] <EnsignRedshirt> jeekl: Have you installed the ssh package?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell haha about flash
[11:47] <dk> dapper or breezy, witch is the best?
[11:47] <nickrud> JimmyPToz: it is scheduled regularly, but hitting refresh hurts nothing
[11:48] <gnomefreak> dk: breezy
[11:48] <gopi> IdleOne, gnomefreak: Is that the link to add given in the following page? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96631
[11:48] <gopi> IdleOne, gnomefreak: The first deb link in that page...
[11:48] <dk> but witch is more faster for an Amd Duron at 750 mhz ?
[11:48] <jeekl> EnsignRedshirt: Yes, I've installed ssh and openssh-server. Ive edited the sshd_config file and added a line called allowedusers and restarted the deamon. Now, my firend wants to access it but he keeps getting authentication errors...
[11:48] <gnomefreak> gopi: dont
[11:48] <haha> how do i install flash?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> debian repos can bork your system bad
[11:48] <gnomefreak> haha: read your pm
[11:49] <gopi> gnomefreak: why?
[11:49] <dk> gnomefreak, but witch is more faster for an Amd Duron at 750 mhz ?
[11:49] <eva_> Thanx for the help guys!
[11:49] <gopi> gnomefreak: Anyway I downloaded it ... so better I will install it manually
[11:49] <gnomefreak> gopi: this isnt debian and debian will have/use differnet libs than are in ubuntu
[11:49] <andyj2> gnomefreak, Are the two versions particularly different with regards to configuring ralink cards using /etc/network/interfaces?  It's just that ubuntu+1 seems kinda quiet? :-)
[11:49] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[11:50] <gnomefreak> andyj2: ubuntu+1 is always quite
[11:50] <dk> gnomefreak ??
[11:50] <vicks> dk: dapper is the next release which is still in beta. there has been optimizations since breezy, but you can't expect it to be stable (it may crash)
[11:50] <argv512> Ok, so what exactly does rm -fr / do?
[11:50] <andyj2> gnomefreak, bugger! So I'm between a rock and a hard place - run the latest beta version but not get any help or run the current release version but not be able to play with XGL?.  Damn :-(
[11:51] <dk> vicks, tks
[11:51] <Xenguy> Can I ask what should be a simple OOo question here (my brain is fried after hours of wrestling with OOo, and I have a deadline looming) ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> andyj2: dapper isnt beta yet
[11:51] <gnomefreak> andyj2: truthfully xgl isnt wortha  crap
[11:51] <bipolar> argv512: that comand deletes every file on your system without asking for conformation.
[11:51] <nickrud> Xenguy: you know this channel, but shoot 
[11:52] <p01n7> argv[1]  would be force and recursive and argv[2]  would be telling rm to start from root
[11:52] <rambo3> -rf there
[11:52] <Xenguy> nickrud: thank you, here goes...
[11:52] <bipolar>  <never seen that one before....
[11:52] <Mosi> hey everyone
[11:52] <haha> DUDE!!!! how do i install FLASH!!!????
[11:52] <andyj2> gnomefreak, I had a quick go with Kororaa (sp?) earlier and thought it looked absolutely great :-)  To be honest though, I've been considering going to Ubuntu for a while anyway - it's just the easier installation of XGL made me decide to do it now.
[11:52] <[cro] smiley> I have a problem with devilspie:  Could not load theme: Failed to open file '/home/smiley/.devilspie.xml': No such file or directory
[11:52] <gnomefreak> haha: did you read your pm?
[11:52] <rambo3> with capslock
[11:52] <haha> yeah
[11:52] <haha> it makes no sense...
[11:52] <gnomefreak> than install it using those ways
[11:53] <Mosi> i'm trying to build swfdec so i can run flash, but the config script is erroring with 'no glib found'. i can't find glib with apt-get, anyone know where i can get it?
[11:53] <EnsignRedshirt> jeekl: I'm no expert, so you might want to ask your question again.  In the mean time, see if there is a log file for sshd (or if one can be enabled with an appropriate line in sshd_config).
[11:53] <techrush> hi
[11:54] <ltR^> I'm intalling uBuntu, i'm making a new partition... what filesystem do you recomend?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> haha: what arch and version are you using?
[11:54] <[cro] smiley> I have a problem with devilspie:  Could not load theme: Failed to open file '/home/smiley/.devilspie.xml': No such file or directory
[11:54] <IdleOne> gopi>  why dont you use mythtv?
[11:54] <fluxt> Mosi, apt-cache search glib
[11:54] <gopi> gnomefreak, IdleOne: I followed install instructions by doing, ./configure --prefix=/usr and at the end of the big list the following was said, configure: error: *** Unable to find a suitable Athena Widget library (Xaw)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> haha: tell me what uname -r spits back at you when typed in terminal
[11:54] <gopi> IdleOne: I tried a lot to install it but in vain :(
[11:54] <Xenguy> OOo question (simple?): I have 3 levels of heading (16pt, 14pt, and 12pt), and I want to simply configure the heading numbers to be the same font size as the headings themselves.  How can I do what should be this simple thing?
[11:54] <rambo3> then install that lib
[11:54] <gnomefreak> gopi: read the readme or install files you need to install libs
[11:55] <Mosi> fluxt: i got about a page and a half of inscrutable output from that... now what?
[11:55] <ltR^> I'm intalling uBuntu, i'm making a new partition... what filesystem do you recomend?
[11:55] <nickrud> Mosi: sudo ap-get build-dep libswfdec0.3 (if the one in the repository is too old for you )
[11:55] <dabaR_> ltR^: use the defaults if you are not sure what to use.
[11:55] <ltR^> i didn't load the ubuntu cd yet
[11:55] <ltR^> im making the partition manually
[11:55] <Xenguy> (OOo = OpenOffice.org)
[11:55] <ltR^> raiserFS?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> haha: you want help now would be a good time to answer my questions <hint>
[11:55] <fluxt> Mosi, heard of apt-get? synaptic?
[11:56] <dabaR_> leave the file system type unformatted. THe install CD can format it for you into the default file system type.
[11:56] <nickrud> Xenguy: I've used it since 5.2, but no promices
[11:56] <haha> dude.. how do i use the terminal?
[11:56] <Mosi> fluxt: yeah. I've heard swfdec is unstable on PowerPC, and it's better to build it from source
[11:56] <ideaone> im trying to boot the installer from grub but it gets so far and comes up with an error saying... vfs:cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block(8,3) anyone help?
[11:56] <dabaR_> haha: open it.
[11:56] <dabaR_> !cli
[11:56] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[11:56] <jafn> sweet nevermind it worked this time, it musta been the semi hosed artition on disk one that ws holding up grub he first few times I tried to install :) thank you people
[11:56] <gnomefreak> haha: go to applications>accessories>terminal
[11:56] <vars> hey how do i reconfigure x so i can use higher resolutions?
[11:56] <argv512> !help
[11:56] <dabaR_> vars: you can always fixres...
[11:57] <toxic_> How can I get rid of faulty output in bash scripting ? Ie rm non_existinf_file => Error: file wasn't found .. Adding rm file 2> /dev/null won't work
[11:57] <dabaR_> !fixres
[11:57] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:57] <fluxt> Mosi, apt-get insall libglib1.2
[11:57] <fluxt> install*
[11:57] <ltR^> Do i have to burn the ISO to a CD?
[11:57] <ltR^> can i mount it in windows
[11:57] <gnomefreak> argv512: if you dont tell us you issue we cant help you
[11:57] <dabaR_> ltR^: yes, as a disk image.
[11:57] <Mosi> fluxt: that might be the problem, swfdec requires 2.0 or higher
[11:57] <haha> it gives me
[11:57] <ltR^> i can mount it?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ltR^: its the easiest
[11:57] <Xenguy> nickrud: OK, you have any ideas (I cannot believe I am stumped on this BTW)
[11:57] <haha> 2.6.12-9-386
[11:57] <dabaR_> no burn it as a disk image.
[11:57] <fluxt> Mosi, download, compile it, etc
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:57] <ltR^> k
[11:57] <jb1> why doesn't the dapper installer have an option for installing from another hard drive?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> haha: brb
[11:57] <gnomefreak> leave terminal open
[11:57] <haha> k
[11:58] <fluxt> Mosi, or apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[11:58] <gnomefreak> argv512: dont pm me without asking
[11:58] <Xenguy> ?
[11:58] <fluxt> Mosi, 'apt-cache search' is your friend
[11:58] <EnsignRedshirt> toxic_: Try rm -f
[11:58] <argv512> gnomefreak, Why can't I PM you without asking?
[11:58] <MaXuS> where can i find more for multiscreen configuration ?
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> What version of gcc is the breezy kernel-image compiled with?
[11:58] <Mosi> fluxt: :\ says libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version
[11:58] <toxic_> EnsignRedshirt, This is an example .. var=`rm -i *pattern` | 2> /dev/null
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ok haha in termnial type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list adn keep it open for a min
[11:58] <nickrud> ah, I had to scroll back for the question 
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell argv512 about coc
[11:59] <Psi-Jack> argv512: Most people consider that rude.
[11:59] <fluxt> fluxt, then you already have glib installed.. so what's the problem again?
[11:59] <Mosi> fluxt: i sorta figured i probably already had glib, it's a pretty basic library to have... any idea why the configure script for swfdec won't find it?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> haha: let me know when its open please
[11:59] <gopi> gnomefreak: In the installation file its specified that "X11 + XPM + Xaw + Xterm" libraries are in all distros but why when I tried to install it said configure: error: *** Unable to find a suitable Athena Widget library (Xaw) ? ...... plz see installation file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10091
[11:59] <fluxt> Mosi, perhaps you need libglib2.0-dev ?
[11:59] <Xenguy> nickrud: Sorry I didn't prepend your nick, but sent to channel instead
[11:59] <Mosi> fluxt: i'll try that