=== claydoh [n=clay@65.99.187.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.187.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Kingpomba [n=no@144.131.178.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.102] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:35] heh, more whinging about how bugs on the forums arent being fixed, only the ones in launchpad... [06:37] Hobbsee: where? lol [06:37] robotgeek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140336 [06:37] i need a good laugh with my beer [06:37] hehe === _maydayjay_ [n=jason@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] hmm === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] "this is the only distribution where the developers don't read the forums" I don't know any developers in any project who reads forums [08:40] well, users [08:40] who cares :) [08:43] heh [08:50] they have a point though, the cups stuff has taken too long to fix [08:50] oh [08:50] so thats not just me [08:50] i was meaning to ask about that [08:50] now i noticed it was broken on my fresh install at home [08:51] amu: cool, you found the new logo [08:51] new logo? [08:52] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperKubuntuWebSiteLogo [08:53] cool [08:53] needs to be more spacing [08:53] between the gears and the semicircle thingys [08:53] more white [08:54] Riddell: any chance to pulling network manager in kubuntu, if we get the 6 week extension? [08:54] robotgeek: nope [08:54] the extra 6 weeks is to fix bugs [08:54] not make more [08:54] ;p [08:55] hmm? :) [08:55] my personal guess is that the 6 weeks are to make up for the lack of freeze discipline ;-) [08:55] only asking cause there is not a decent wirelss tool in kubuntu. if this is not true, please let me know. and i will fix it in the guide [08:56] btw, the guide is almost done. 95%, and will make the doc string freeze too [08:56] mornfall: partly yes, also it's partly for espresso [08:56] robotgeek: url? :) [08:57] mornfall: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/index.html [08:57] thx [08:59] Riddell: how about the knetwork manager ? [09:00] hmm, adept guide is stalled again :| [09:00] or more like still [09:01] maybe i have to write my own docs [09:01] mornfall: jjesse was asking on the doc list, maybe you can answer [09:01] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-March/005494.html [09:02] i'll try to catch him online [09:03] bug #30634 [09:03] malone bug 30634 in koffice "Cannot start any koffice application" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30634 [09:03] anyone knows where the fix is? breezy-updates? [09:18] robotgeek: should just be in breezy [09:18] Riddell: hmm, one guy was having this issue, kde 3.5.1 and stuff [09:20] hmm, i think i need to file a 'wishlist' bug about this. System Settings uses "install new theme" when it probably should be "install new icon set" === verwilst [n=bv@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:40] allee: does the "Debian's Position on the GFDL" vote mean KDE docs don't have to be split out? [09:41] Riddell: yes!! [09:41] Riddell: and I can move digikam-doc and digiamimageplugins-doc from non-free to main :) [09:41] yay :) [09:42] what happened to the various problems the FDL had then? [09:43] Riddell: the exception is only granted to FDL _without_ unmodifiable sections [09:43] Riddell: that what KDE uses by default [09:43] Riddell: so KDE docs (after verifying that the license says _without_ unmodifiable sections) is okay [09:44] Riddell: a plain GFDL is still non-free in the sense of the DFSG [09:48] but there's all this stuff http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml [09:48] DRM sections and the need for a transparent copy [09:53] wow that was enlightening [09:54] Riddell: AFAIU all these problems are still unsolved. The resolution does not say that the license is now free. It only says it okay to include GFDL _without_ unmodifiable sections is okay to be included in main. [09:55] there's also stuff like requirements on sections called "acknowledgements" and the like which assumes documents are in English [09:56] the vote does say the FDL (without unmodifiable sections) is free [09:56] "GFDL-licensed works without unmodifiable sections are free" [09:56] is a vote really technically sound tho :) [10:01] acknowledgements restriction are in unmodifiable section categorie AFAIU. But I'm far from a license expert ;) === allee prefers to ask upstream for gdfl -> gpl conversion whenever possible === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@tor/session/x-782457c49cafa791] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:09] hi all [10:09] Kubuntu Dapper Flight 5 isn't out or am I wrong? [10:09] Ubuntu Link works but not the one of kubuntu [10:10] MrFaber: it is not, I'll be doing that today [10:10] anyone got an amd64 to test on? [10:10] thx [10:10] Riddell: nalioth has one, but he's sleeping atm [10:10] Does anyone know if the installer security hole of Breezy is in Flight 5 too? [10:11] saving the password in question.dat without encryption? [10:11] MrFaber: that's only on breezy [10:11] MrFaber: it's not in dapper at all [10:11] robotgeek, thanks [10:11] Riddell: i also know apokryphos has a amd64 machine too [10:12] thx and cu all === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@tor/session/x-782457c49cafa791] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [10:21] sucky, went to see doctor to find a way to stop eating painkillers... doctor ordered _more_ pills [10:22] I bet it's very normal that 21 year old person eat several drugs to be able to sleep and walk... [10:22] [10:22] tea -> === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- note the change in date, and be there! === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Mon Mar 6 11:38:35 2006 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D1983.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:13] has kded/mountwatcher.desktop been in dapper at all? [05:14] doesn't seem to be [05:14] kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : kded/mountwatcher.desktop [05:14] ^ an error i'm getting === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- note the change in date, and be there! === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Mon Mar 6 11:38:35 2006 [05:15] (Tm_T/#kubuntu-devel) AAAARGH!!2!#234 [05:15] (Tm_T/#kubuntu-devel) must buy some cd's to my sister... [05:15] (Tm_T/#kubuntu-devel) had enough from that [05:15] (Riddell/#kubuntu-devel) seaLne: when are you getting that? [05:15] (seaLne/#kubuntu-devel) no sign of it in /usr/share/services/kded [05:16] (Tm_T/#kubuntu-devel) you know, you can stand song one or three times a day... but 6 in one hour ;( [05:17] Riddell: one of the errors i'm getting from katch, my ruby prog [05:19] Riddell: my code runs fine on breezy 3.5.1 rdale checked it, 95% of the time it crashes on my dapper [05:24] mountwatcher is the thing that watches /etc/fstab. we use hal instead [05:24] so I don't see why that should be a problem [05:24] is there a backtrace from the crash? [05:24] i'm not sure they are related just wanted to check it hadn't recently changed === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:26] Riddell: www2.duffus.org/kubuntu/katch.txt [05:27] hmm, knetworksocket [05:27] wouldn't surprise me if that was avahi related [05:28] that was one of my earlier thoughts but it makes no difference with avahi-daemon running or not === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:31] if i disable garbage collection it dosen't crash and if i enable debugging it dosen't either [05:31] its very strange [05:32] now that is strange [05:33] well, the garbage collection I can understand I guess [05:33] yeah it could make sense [05:37] but it dosen't really === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:47] I have to say I have noticed new Kubuntu look. ;-) [05:48] where? [05:48] why I miss all things like that [05:48] After today update of kubuntu-default-settings [05:48] Boot splash, login screen, background, window colors [05:48] hmm, my kubuntu still looks like this: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png [05:49] I like new boot splash - old one was barely seen on my LCD, new is stronger and therefore better [05:49] yeah thankfully those changes shouldn't affect anyone [05:49] seaLne: =) [05:50] unlike spending hours sorting fonts [05:50] haha [05:50] But my login screen is completly strange... [05:50] I don't understand, pypanel just don't work here [05:50] Riddell: who is working on this and should we already report issues or is this still work in progress? [05:50] hunger: ping ? === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] Lure: kwwii is working on it [05:51] Lure: what's the issue? [05:51] kwwii <3 [05:52] moin [05:52] <3 ? [05:52] aaah! [05:52] you're here! === Tm_T hides === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] Login screen has HUGE fonts (they get out of dialog) and backround image (blue) does not cover whole screen [05:52] there is some trashy stuff on right side (like k3b window and old kubuntu logo) [05:53] kwwii: and just when I didn't look login/logout messages =) [05:53] I can make a photo... [05:53] oh well, more drugs and coffee -> [05:53] Lure: what resolution is your monitor? [05:54] are we talking about kdm? [05:54] 1920x1200 [05:54] ahaa [05:54] the pic is only 1600x1200 [05:54] kwwii: yes, kdm login screen [05:54] ah yes, that will happen then [05:54] it would be quite easy to make a bigger resolution bg for kdm [05:54] yes, we should do that === kwwii adds that to the list of things to do [05:55] I suppose font size is caused by the fact that kde-guidance script to fix DPI is executed only on login [05:56] I have similar issue on Breezy (but old dapper was OK) [05:57] bah, it's so strange, pypaneljust don't work here... [05:57] Riddell, allee: any opinion on latest (k)powersave packages? [05:58] They work for me, however I do not like that acpid rerouting that much (will impact ubuntu-desktop) [05:58] Lure: had not time to test. Familie need attention. Only this I noted is that fan was running permanently. And cpu freq was at max without reason :( [05:58] Lure: I've not had time to read the thread one the mailing list :( [05:59] allee: fan is OK with me, CPU is on max if you are on power (at least by default) [05:59] arg my eyes :) that is very bright usplash [05:59] Riddell: I can understand... [06:00] Lure: yeah, I set it to powersave. with max cpufreq fan turn on ~ 15 min and never stops :( [06:00] so while we are on kdm, does everyone agree that the highlight buttons need some work? [06:01] is ksplash supposed to be transparent and off center now? [06:01] allee: interesting... what I noticed that in dynamic mode, we quickly switch to 1.6/2.1GHz [06:01] this probably explains why WinXP can get ~50% more time out my two batteries [06:01] Lure: IMHO it makes not such sense to let CPU consume power for nothing when plugged in. I always used dyn freq with all cpudaemong I used over the time ;) [06:01] (no scientific measurement, just looking at wall clock) [06:01] kwwii: yeah way to blue [06:02] allee: I agree, this also reduces heat (hurts my left hand ;-)) and fan noise [06:02] kwwii: they don't really fit in with the rest of the login [06:03] kwwii: what are "hightlight buttons"? [06:03] Lure: yeah, I remember. At my desk I use a external keyboard with the latop, so I forgot the heat factor below hands already === allee back to AFS ... [06:03] seaLne: it's not [06:04] seaLne: what's your resolution(s) [06:04] i'm assuming "menu" and ">" [06:04] 1024 [06:04] Lure: the ones when you mouse over them [06:04] seaLne: that's kdm [06:04] seaLne: are you having problems with ksplash or kdm? [06:05] ksplash [06:06] seaLne: can I get a screenshot? [06:06] ksplash --test [06:06] hmm maybe it isn't off center but because its left justified it looks that way? [06:06] i was about to ask :) [06:07] it should be centres [06:07] it should be centred === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] Riddell: actually, icons are also moved left and up (out of dialog) on my system [06:08] Lure: on what? [06:08] ah, ksplash [06:08] Lure: screenshot from you would be helpful too [06:08] yes, ksplash [06:10] http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/snapshot1.png http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/snapshot2.png [06:11] hrrr, so "smooth" [06:11] seaLne: that's 1280 [06:11] I don't like [06:11] but... [06:11] hmm, it's missing Dialog.png or something [06:11] Riddell: err ok i mean its at 1280 [06:11] does that make a difference apart from making me look silly? [06:12] seaLne: the difference is that I'm using 1024 so I know it works at that, and it breaking at other resolutions isn't too surprinsing since I had nothing else to test it on [06:12] shouldn't be too hard to fix though [06:13] Riddell: http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=1236895 [06:14] should the bubble background be there for kdm? [06:16] or is it ment to be slatey blue color? [06:16] sabdfl preferred the stripy yellow/blue one for kdm [06:16] but kdm and ksplash should have the same [06:16] yeah that was what i was going to say [06:17] i couldn't decide if it was stripey or just the tft looking crap [06:17] the stripey on kdm looks better imho than the bubbles [06:17] Riddell: why I still get old Moodin splash instead of bubble (like seaLne) [06:18] Lure: did you manually change it? [06:18] Not this time - I installed fresh Flight4+updates yesterday [06:18] (to clarify that i didn't to get it, just in case you had previously) [06:18] it was this afternoons updates i think? [06:19] yes, new artwork only compiled successfully this afternoon [06:20] interesting - test does old backround, while preview picture in SS->Desktop->Splash is with bright blue background... [06:20] but I suppose this is just preview picture... [06:22] Lure: ah, maybe it's cached [06:22] rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash [06:22] that cache is quite evil [06:24] Riddell: true, k-d-s should probably do this automatically [06:25] i think my ruby problem might be something to do with kio_file [06:25] now I see more or less the same as seaLne - bubbles (streched) with icons of-center === robotgeek sees a bunch of upgrades [06:26] what changed recently in kdelibs? [06:26] seaLne: nothing that I can think of except avahi, check the changelog though [06:27] vim-gnome is getting removed, strange === toma_ is now known as toma [06:29] yeah and it dsen't touch kio_file [06:30] Riddell, kwwii: photo of kdm login screen: http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=1236914 [06:30] I like "Menu" button ;-) [06:30] oh joy [06:31] Riddell: not that different than my Breezy install ;-) [06:31] This is cause by huge DPI (147) and too-big fonts [06:32] and your not happy with that??? :-) [06:32] kwwii: I am, as I know that after login everything will look great, but not sure about newcomers... ;-) [06:32] I think it says "boy, I have a big display" [06:32] hehe, sure [06:33] tell you what, send me the display for testing and I'll make sure it works :-) [06:34] kwwii: it is built-in in my company notebook, therefore I bit hard to do... ;-) === AgarFu [n=konversa@85.155.7.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:37] actually, I simply make the picture big enough to fit resolutions that large [06:37] Hi all [06:39] Riddell: did you have time to look at my repo? [06:39] AgarFu: not yet, I will do so by tomorrow though [06:40] oka [06:41] AgarFu: I'm unsure about this re-writing idea though, it makes it harder to keep in sync with the gtk frontend [06:42] I know but ... give an oportunity to it [06:43] I'm shure when you look inside both and compare them you'll love our rewrite [06:43] absolutely shure [06:50] s/shure/sure/g [06:51] Riddell: yep, logo is too light imho, well if i'm not online or i say nothing means not i'm far away :) [06:52] by! [06:52] uos [06:52] ups [06:53] bye [06:54] just got new k-d-s and kubuntu-artwork packages [06:54] what does this message means: [06:54] KDM theme customised or already enabled, not touching kdmrc ... === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === JRe is now known as JRe_ === JRe_ is now known as JRe [07:08] the "plain text password in log" was pretty scary === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:51] hi [07:51] who looked the new design ? [07:51] Riddell: would you have any use for 17" CRTs? [07:52] seaLne: not really [07:53] thought i'd ask :) === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] Riddell: new ksplash doesn't work for me [07:54] Tonio_: what's the problem? [07:54] Riddell: icons on the left [07:54] seaLne: thanks [07:54] no white square [07:54] Tonio_: yeah, known, I'll look at it in a bit [07:55] and sorry for saying this, but I *really* dislike the new color shemes [07:55] tell it to sabdfl :) [07:55] too flashy, blue everywhere..... [07:55] Riddell: I will [07:55] Riddell: you know how much I love kubuntu [07:56] Riddell: but honnestly, this is too me the worst default design I have seen on a distro [07:56] Tonio_: i think we are getting off lightly compared to gnome :) [07:56] ubuntu/gnme is really nice [07:56] I love it [07:56] ah you like it [07:57] but now, from the kusplash, to the colorsheme, the new "kubuntu" image on the left of Kmenu [07:57] everything is ugly.... [07:57] the bright blue does seem to be proving the people that describe KDE as fisher price right [07:57] seaLne: compared to what I have in front of my eyes, yes, definitly [07:58] could be interesting to make a pool [07:58] AAARGH! [07:59] Tm_T: you too ????? ^^ [07:59] wtf, I can't remove "search" from konqi?! [07:59] damn, I really hate toolbar settings of konqi [08:00] otherwise killer app but toolbar settings just simply suck [08:00] +s [08:01] come on, is there any way to remove it? [08:01] it would be a shame if the first thing people (that knew how) did was undo kubuntu-default-settings [08:01] haha [08:02] and I'm supposed to know... [08:02] but i know its easier to bitch than come up with a solution [08:02] Tm_T: what about the new design ? [08:02] Tonio_: I don't use search thing [08:02] just. don't. [08:02] i personall don't like half of the changes, to be honest, simple things like tabs are now on the bottom, had to make changes to kate, etc [08:02] and I wan't it to go away [08:03] Tm_T: you can [08:03] how? === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] Tm_T: configure toolbars -> Search toolbar -> remove the entry on the left [08:04] ? [08:04] gnaah, what part didn't you understand? [08:04] Tm_T: I was talking about the new design, not the new settings ;) [08:04] Tonio_: I haven't seen any new design yet === Tm_T has "bit" tweaked KDE ;( [08:05] andred: I don't have any search toolbar [08:05] huh? in the configure toolbars dialog, there's a dropdown list with the toolbars [08:06] one of them is the searchbar [08:06] it's actually in Configure Extensions [08:06] Riddell: yeah, that works, too :) [08:06] Riddell: thanks <3 [08:07] now there's 2 search thing extensions, only that new one was enabled === raphink-pbook hides his eyes and screams [08:08] wazzis blue? [08:09] haha [08:09] it's horrible, honnestly [08:09] maybe I should try those defaults =) [08:09] the theme is far too dark [08:10] the wallpaper ... well I've already given my opinion on the wallpaper many times === toma_ is now known as toma [08:10] the usplash is agressive and childish [08:10] the kdm login is even worse [08:10] never seen that === _Sime hopes that Alt+D works in Dapper as shortcut for the location bar in konq. === raphink-pbook loved Breezy look [08:11] the Kmenu doesn't work properly [08:11] ksplash crashes when and doesn't have the same theme [08:13] fuck I'm tired... === Tm_T washes his mouth === seaLne hands Tm_T some soap to chew on :) [08:15] *mfffaaahhh* === Tm_T speaks bubbles [08:16] heh === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:22] ok so I definitely prefer the previous usplash theme :) [08:22] the new kdm theme is fine [08:23] the ksplash is strange [08:23] I also have a bug with kcontrol / appearance / window decoration [08:23] since the installation of kwin-theme-crystal [08:24] how and yes, I also think that the color theme is too dark [08:25] hmm, have to create temp user so I can test that === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T goes crazy -> === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D1983.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:29] JRe: a va tu restes poli toi [08:30] raphink-pbook: why? [08:30] (and hi BTW) [08:31] JRe: because I just think this whole look&feel is horrible [08:31] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36409 [08:32] if you want to give your feedback there, to get a global opinion [08:32] :) [08:32] Tonio_: sure good idea [08:35] yay, that was... ugly [08:35] :) [08:37] after verification the ksplash seems to be buggy [08:37] yup [08:37] all those pics were left [08:38] about centered to one third of width [08:38] and my second session is using some weird settings, like all fonts are dejavu sans (size 9) [08:38] is that default? [08:38] what else... [08:40] ah i never got the bubble background just plain bright blue [08:40] that actually isn't as bad [08:40] lol [08:40] seaLne: did you vote on kde-look? [08:40] not yet [08:41] what if i like parts of it? :") [08:42] jjesse: you can't [08:42] weird i didn't have the box round ksplash either [08:42] http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/snapshot2.png [08:43] seaLne: exactly same render for me [08:43] seaLne: same [08:44] you got the box? [08:44] seaLne: no i got just like you [08:45] ah right [08:45] where did the k-l screenshot come from? [08:47] seaLne: another default is the usplash [08:47] the ratio is 16/9 [08:47] which renders a deformed image on my classic screen [08:47] I suspect mark for working with a widescreen screen [08:47] seaLne: did you notice that also ? [08:48] not really, the fonts were unreadable tho [08:48] seaLne: was the image in a normal ratio while booting ? [08:49] hard to say [08:49] sorry was a couple of hours ago [08:50] on one of my dev machines at work, at home now so can't check [08:51] until i can burn dvds on dapper i'll stick to breezy at home [08:53] I don't get it [08:53] we had a beautiful look&feel, working and all [08:53] just a few days ago [08:55] i wasn't a big fan of the old background but at least it looked quite profesional and was a nice color [08:55] seaLne: yeah I agree [08:55] yes [08:55] totally agreed [08:55] I think new colors are just too "agressive" [08:56] please do vote on kde-look [08:56] I however like new boot splash as old one was barely noticable on my LCD [08:56] seaLne: agree too [08:56] the actual colors are VERY agressive [08:56] and look "fisher price" [08:56] Lure: what do you compare it with? [08:57] to me the old look was very nice [08:57] Lure: did you compare it with the original moodin kdm it was based on ? [08:57] that we had a few days ago [08:57] we had to change the background, and polish the ksplash a bit [08:57] and was great imo [08:57] but the blue used on the ksplash is really agressive [08:57] raphink-pbook: I am talking about boot (usplash), not login splash (moodin) [08:57] Lure: ah ok [08:57] I just changed the contrast of my screen cause it was hard to look at the screen [08:58] Lure: well the old usplash was too dark, but this one looks fisherprice like [08:58] yeah I have the same impression [08:58] raphink-pbook: true, but at least people around notice that I am not boooting Windows ;-) [08:59] the old usplash looke very grainy for me [08:59] strange... [08:59] seaLne: "grainy" ?? what does this mean ? [08:59] all fonts were crap in other session, might be settings though [08:59] seaLne: that was also true - like it was resized from something really small [08:59] bad gradient fill [08:59] I even thought that this was due to high-res display, but now I knwo it was not [08:59]