[12:04] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Search in adept, java. I'd recommend, and only that, you use sun's java.
[12:05] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: oki thanx
[12:05] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: weird... now the module loads, but the v4l system doesn't see the camera. *sigh*
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[12:06] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: I figured out what I need to do. I compiled spca5xx with gcc 4.0.2.. The kernel is done with fcc 3.4. BIG difference. :)
[12:06] <bipolar> I need to test the new fglrx packages in dapper anyway. I'll work on this later. :P
[12:06] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: yeah, that would do it :)
[12:07] <Psi-Jack> So, I'm re-doing it now. :)
[12:13] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: ok i have downloaded and extracted jre from sun's site...where should i copy it?
[12:13] <Psi-Jack> !java
[12:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:13] <Psi-Jack> !javadebs
[12:20] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: thanx again...
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> bash: deb: command not found
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> i get that error in konsole
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> whats it mean
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> anyone?
[12:23] <Psi-Jack> !spca5xx
[12:23] <ubotu> Breezy drivers for spca5xx based webcams are broken. Follow this howto if they don't work for you - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=407656&postcount=1
[12:24] <Datsunzoso> ugh is that for me? psi-jack?
[12:24] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: No.
[12:24] <Datsunzoso> oh
[12:24] <Datsunzoso> k
[12:24] <Datsunzoso> bash: deb: command not found
[12:25] <Datsunzoso> whats that mean in konsole! im a noob :(
[12:25] <Red_Herring> uhh
[12:25] <Red_Herring> that deb is not a command
[12:25] <Datsunzoso> ...
[12:25] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:25] <Red_Herring> what are you trying to do?
[12:25] <_can> i've a problem
[12:25] <Red_Herring> thats a given
[12:26] <Datsunzoso> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.8.php
[12:26] <Datsunzoso> that
[12:26] <_can> my sound card can send that 1 soung
[12:26] <Datsunzoso> im doing the apt source thingy
[12:27] <Red_Herring> ok Datsunzoso, waht you wanna do is add that deb line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <Datsunzoso> idk how to do that though
[12:27] <Red_Herring> !sources
[12:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:27] <Datsunzoso> ook
[12:27] <Red_Herring> _can: can you elaborate a bit?
[12:28] <_can> if a other program send a sound, it can not
[12:28] <Red_Herring> heh
[12:28] <_can> what is a bit ?
[12:28] <Red_Herring> its a problem that is a very wide known one
[12:28] <Red_Herring> its not your sound card, nor is it the driver
[12:28] <Red_Herring> hrm, i dunno the answer, but im sure someone here does
[12:29] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, FINALLY got my camera working.
[12:29] <Psi-Jack> But, it's very piss-poor quality. heh
[12:29] <Red_Herring> heh, thats camara's for you
[12:29] <Psi-Jack> Red_Herring: This spca5xx driver gives it no justice. I know it's better than that garbage.
[12:30] <Red_Herring> i see
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> ok i tried adding that deb
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> but it says i dont have acess to write on it
[12:30] <_can> where can i find a driver sound card on kumbuntu ?
[12:30] <Red_Herring> Datsunzoso: yup, you need to run it as su
[12:30] <Psi-Jack> A... driver sound card? On.. kumbuntu?
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> oh ook
[12:30] <Red_Herring> "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <Red_Herring> _can: its not a driver problem!
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:31] <_can> where is this problem ?
[12:31] <_can> so
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> now it says sudo: gedit: command not found
[12:31] <bumper_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606
[12:31] <Red_Herring> its a problem with linux's sound architecture
[12:32] <Red_Herring> Datsunzoso: oops, my bad, its "kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:32] <Red_Herring> add that line to that, then save and update
[12:32] <_can> how it's repar ?
[12:32] <bumper_> PRECAUTION https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606
[12:33] <Datsunzoso> how do i update?
[12:33] <Datsunzoso> on adept?
[12:34] <Red_Herring> bumper_: will it be fixed soon?
[12:34] <Red_Herring> Datsunzoso: sure, adept works
[12:34] <Datsunzoso> hmmm
[12:34] <Datsunzoso> k
[12:34] <bumper_> delete    /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat
[12:35] <_can> thanks for all !
[12:35] <_can> bonne nuit :)
[12:44] <mikelk> hola
[12:44] <mikelk> hi
[12:47] <sledge> I've got a quick Ooo2 question: I added a tab (you know, the little L's at the top) in a table. If I want to indent text to that tab using the tab key the cursor jumps to the next cell. How do I insert a tab now? :P
[12:48] <bimberi> sledge: it's alt-tab i think (or ctrl- or shift-), can't recall
[12:49] <bimberi> sledge: heh, probably ctrl-tab  (should have experimented before posting) :)
[12:49] <sledge> bimberi: Nope. That switches between windows and/or desktops.
[12:50] <ganymed_> how do i get root access in swat?
[12:50] <nalioth> !kdesu
[12:50] <ubotu> I guess kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[12:54] <HymnToLife> !no kdesu is <reply> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[12:54] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[12:57] <GameOver69> hey guys i recently upgraded to dapper and now my wireless card is called eth2 instead of wlan0... i am using ndiswrapper and a linksys wirless card... anyway to get it working again
[12:58] <sledge> So no idea on my openoffice.org issue?
[12:59] <ixiion> ryu  still here ?
[12:59] <bimberi> sledge: ctrl-tab
[12:59] <GameOver69> no one can help?
[01:00] <sledge> bimberi: As mentioned above: it doesn't work. That switches desktops.
[01:01] <Random_Transit> sweet zombie jeebus...has anyone heard about the new installer log security hole?
[01:01] <Random_Transit> just found out from OSNews.com...
[01:02] <bimberi> sledge: kk, I thought you were referring to alt-tab.  That switches desktops in Gnome so ctrl-tab works in OOo2.  You'll probably have to look at your keymappings
[01:02] <Random_Transit> the root password is plainly available in plain text in /var/log/cdebconf/questions.dat
[01:03] <bimberi> Random_Transit: yes, an absolute howler unfortunately :(((
[01:03] <Random_Transit> currently only breezy is affected
[01:03] <bimberi> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606
[01:04] <Random_Transit> dapper seems to have fixed this, and the jury's still out on hoary
[01:04] <Random_Transit> brb
[01:04] <bimberi> yes, but as said in the bug comments, people who upgrade from a breezy install will still be affected
[01:06] <GameOver69> hey guys i recently upgraded to dapper and now my wireless card is called eth2 instead of wlan0... i am using ndiswrapper and a linksys wirless card... anyway to get it working again
[01:16] <ganymed_> does anybody have any experiences with 1blu.de?
[01:16] <visik7> Random_Transit: can I safely remove that file ?
[01:18] <ganymed_> how should i do a kdesu to get into swat? kdesu konqueror or what?
[01:19] <visik7> ganymed_: swat is  "Samba Web Administration Tool"
[01:20] <visik7> so u need to access it via http://localhost:931/ IIRC
[01:20] <visik7> sorry
[01:20] <ganymed_> i know ths. sb answered with kdesu... i thought it was :901
[01:20] <visik7> locahost:901
[01:21] <visik7> kdesu is nonsense in this case
[01:21] <ganymed_> but then i only get user access. i cannot change anything
[01:23] <visik7> I think swat need root passwd not user (even if u have sudo priviledge) but why don't u use kcmshell fileshare
[01:24] <GameOver69> hey guys i recently upgraded to dapper and now my wireless card is called eth2 instead of wlan0... i am using ndiswrapper and a linksys wirless card... anyway to get it working again
[01:31] <conn> hi, does anyone know how to change the gamma level? When I watch a movie using XVideo output, the gamma/brightness is way too high, but for X11 it's perfect (it's not an issue with the monitor brightness). Can someone help?
[01:32] <Blissex> conn: 'man xgamma'
[01:32] <Blissex> conn: but note that Xvideo overlays probably are not affected.
[01:32] <conn> Blissex, yes, I saw that command and it didn't give me much help
[01:33] <Blissex> conn: most DVD players have brightness and gamma controls...
[01:34] <leafw> conn, Blissex : I have a similar problem. The screen doesn't have the same colors as it does when booting from macosx. Colors are somewhat darker.
[01:34] <conn> Blissex, VLC?
[01:34] <Blissex> conn: or perhaps you can adjust the monitor to be right for movies and then use 'xgamma' to set the right gamma for non-movies.
[01:34] <kool_atron> I've got a silly problem
[01:34] <conn> Blissex, no, the monitor is at an optimal setting, I use it for photo editing in Windows so I won't much with the settings
[01:34] <Blissex> leafw: that is to be expected -- monitor color calibrations  can be all over the place.
[01:34] <kool_atron> the fonts in xine-ui are _gigantic_
[01:35] <leafw> Blissex: so how can they be adjusted
[01:35] <nuky> do you know where kubuntu keeps the colour (schema) settings for the konsole? i though it would be in .bashrc.. or ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/ ...
[01:35] <conn> I installed flight 5 (fresh reinstall), yet since flight 2 I've never encountered this issue
[01:35] <conn> (Ubuntu this time, but usually i installed Kubuntu)
[01:35] <Blissex> leafw: there are several ways, the crudest is to use 'xgamma' and that usually is enough.
[01:36] <kool_atron> anyone know what controls the font size in xine-ui's preferences page?
[01:36] <Blissex> leafw: also, you can install the Linux CMS to go further.
[01:36] <leafw> Blissex: hum, the colors are not overburned, I don't expect to put down the red channel would do much
[01:36] <leafw> CMS ?
[01:37] <conn> Blissex, very odd.. I ran totem and changed the brightness, contrast saturation and hue to their lowest levels, it's darkish, but technically, the picture should be completely black
[01:38] <leafw> Blissex: you meant liblcms1 ? or the -utils ?
[01:38] <Blissex> leafw: the utils
[01:38] <leafw> ok
[01:38] <leafw> I assume the command is 'cms' ?
[01:38] <Blissex> leafw: that will get the library too.
[01:39] <leafw> the lib is here already, according to adept
[01:39] <leafw> by the way, Adept has been crashing lately
[01:39] <Blissex> leafw: can't remeber, it is all explained http://www.littlecms.com/
[01:39] <leafw> when finishing, and "sorting...." again
[01:39] <leafw> thank you
[01:40] <hugo_> where can I get sources for KDE 3.5?
[01:40] <Random_Transit> hey, so this installer log security hole...can i just fix it by deleting the logs?
[01:40] <Random_Transit> and also disabling SSH?
[01:41] <kool_atron> My wireless tends to reassociate regularly even though I don't tell it to.  Is there a way to keep it from doing that?
[01:41] <kool_atron> as in, reassociate to a different AP to which I do not want to be connected
[01:42] <Blissex> kool_atron: seems to be in '~/.xine/config', and it uses FontConfig, not X11, style fonts
[01:43] <Blissex> Random_Transit: just delete the install log.
[01:43] <leafw> how can one list the executable files of a package with apt-get ?
[01:43] <leafw> can't see which commands the cms utils broght me
[01:43] <Blissex> kool_atron: reassociate is usually because of bugs in drivers etc.
[01:43] <Blissex> leafw: dpkg -L .....
[01:43] <leafw> thanks
[01:45] <Blissex> leafw: you have to use it from a LCMS enabled app, like Gimp IIRC
[01:46] <leafw> Blissex: and it will calibrate for that application, or for the whole system?
[01:46] <leafw> it'd be nice to do it for KDE, since kpdf shows CMYK images a little weird
[01:46] <Blissex> leafw: can't remember...
[01:47] <leafw> xD
[01:47] <leafw> thanks anyway
[01:47] <leafw> I'm getting there
[01:47] <leafw> gimp IIRC is different than the Gimp that the repositories have ?
[01:48] <ganymed_> sorry, was busy... thx
[01:50] <Blissex> leafw: interesting page on less formal calibration: http://www.erikburrows.com/index.php?node=Digital+Photography+with+Linux
[01:50] <leafw> thanks!
[01:53] <ganymed_> i know that's not the topic, but does anybody know how to enforce borders without CSS?
[02:08] <Kingpomba> morming everyone
[02:08] <Kingpomba> morning*
[02:08] <Kingpomba> man i need coffee
[02:11] <ganymed_> ciao
[02:23] <Kingpomba> theres atleast 374 linux users in my city http://counter.li.org/reports/place.php?place=AU%3AVi%3AMelbourne
[02:28] <Tompok> This is a stupid question, and it's probably a easy fix but I can't figure it out so here is goes, in Konqueror I'm missing the normal Search bar that is to the right of the address bar, how do I get it back
[02:34] <sistar> lo?
[02:40] <bla> i have problem installing kubuntu anyone up to help me?
[02:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> What's the problem?
[02:41] <sistar> Ah so there are ppl here
[02:41] <sistar> groovy!
[02:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah :P
[02:42] <bla> i downloaded instalation cd, i set bios and boot from cd, after 1st part of instaling and after reboot there is some package instaling and my comp always freez at like 7x%
[02:43] <sistar> Anoyone wanna help me fix up m' sound? (imac)
[02:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, I can only do one thing at a time. :P
[02:43] <bla> me me :)
[02:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, how long have you waited? ;)
[02:43] <bla> hmm
[02:43] <bla> funny part is
[02:43] <bla> that freez
[02:44] <bla> isnt always at same percent
[02:44] <sistar> Cheese--> hence the ne1
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[02:44] <bla> but i noticed that the most time it freezes at instaling XSET
[02:44] <bla> i tried to w8 for like 20min
[02:44] <sistar> but I'm happy to take a number and wait in line
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Check your ISOs MD5 checksum
[02:45] <bla> md5?
[02:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> or if you deleted it, you can check the CD from the installer.
[02:45] <bla> whats md5?
[02:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5
[02:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Basically tells you if it's corrupted or not.
[02:46] <wimpies> My KDE download manager is popping up every time I click on an URL ? Any ideas to get rid of it ?
[02:46] <bla> hmm how to test it ? : (
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> wimpies: What download manager
[02:47] <wimpies> kget
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uninstall it. :P
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> bla: http://www.fastsum.com/
[02:47] <wimpies> It is handy if you do real downloads (see progress) but not if you just click on an url
[02:48] <bla> burgerman : ) i dont know how to test it, anyway i tried 64amd version to, and i dled it from diff location, but same problems apears
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, I've seen that
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> (happened to me :P)
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> What speed did you burn it at?
[02:49] <bla> hmm
[02:49] <bla> 40
[02:49] <sistar> wimpies somewher in the settings you should find an option ''intergate with web browser'' (or sum such) find it and turn it off
[02:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> bla: Burn it at a slower speed
[02:50] <bla> hmm i am not sure thats the problem, once i tried to install it from rw disc and rw was burned at 12x cuz its maximum
[02:50] <bla> and its freezed at 72%
[02:51] <sistar> Wimpies-->Sorry I can't be more specific, but I aint got it on this box
[02:51] <Fear_cult> how do you set the clock for 12h instead of 24h
[02:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> I burned it at 1x :P
[02:51] <Tompok> Damn...
[02:51] <bla> hmm :) so u think thats a potentioal problem? is there something else?
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, it worked for me...
[02:52] <Tompok> I can't figure out how to get the search box back on my konqueror taskbar, any ideas?
[02:52] <m5m> What determines what applications run when I insert an audio CD?  Right now Konqueror and KSCD are both loading and I just want Kaudiocreator to respond, not the others... Help please if you can.
[02:52] <Tompok> I installed kdeaddons, which they said to do in #kde
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uhhh, I figured out how to take it off, Tompok. I'll see if I can figure out how to get it on.
[02:52] <bla> burgerman u had same problem?
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, my CDs were corrupted 'cause I burned them too fast.
[02:54] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, thanks, I'm going to run next dor to the gas station, if you can PM any ideas I'd appreciate so i dont have to search through my buffer
[02:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, I'll see what I find.
[02:54] <bla> is there a way to test if thats the problem?
[02:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> bla: Yeah, burn it at a slower speed and try installing. :P
[02:54] <kroisis> grrr.... "Flight 5 not ready yet,",....while distrowatch is stating "As usual, the Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu live and installation ISO images, as well as torrent files for the three supported architectures, are available from the project's download server".... >:P   (heh)
[02:55] <kroisis> somebody needs to get on the stick at/to distrowatch...
[02:56] <bla> i will give it a try, THX
[02:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: What's the problem with the sound?
[02:56] <m5m> How can I prevent KsCD and Konqueror from popping up every single time I insert an audio CD?
[02:58] <sistar> WIMPIES: Settings-> Configure Kget-> Advanced settings->Enable inergration     uncheck that and u should be away!
[02:59] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, Close but not quite :/
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know.
[02:59] <Tompok> I'm looking for the search box that is normally next to the address bar in most distros
[03:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know what you're looking for - I just thought it was related and interesting. :P
[03:00] <Tompok> Like the same thing that is in FF
[03:00] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, ya i already knew of those
[03:00] <Tompok> There is a crap load of em
[03:00] <m5m> does anyone else suffer from KSCD popping up every time you insert an audio cd or am I alone?
[03:00] <kroisis> anybody ever tried crossover on kubuntu?
[03:00] <Tompok> i have
[03:00] <Tompok> I noticed a bug
[03:01] <Tompok> It won't show the "Windows Applications" on k-menu
[03:01] <kroisis> Tompok  what kind of bug?  windows?
[03:01] <Tompok> pain in the arse
[03:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Tompok: Look in Settings > Configure Toolbars and Settings > Configure Extensions
[03:01] <sistar> m5m yep I do, but I dunno how to fix it either, I'm here to try and get my sound goin first off!
[03:01] <kroisis> Tompok   windows technically isn't a bug or virus, for one thing, virii DO something :P
[03:02] <m5m> ok thanks sistar
[03:02] <Tompok> i was talking a bug as in a glitch
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: what's the problem with the sound?
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK...dumb question
[03:02] <kroisis> Tompok, ahh...I gathered, I was just taking a cheap sot at windowze
[03:02] <kroisis> shot*
[03:02] <Tompok> I haven't used windows since 1997
[03:03] <Tompok> Been all BeOS and *nix since then
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: Do you get an error when you try to play sounds?
[03:03] <kroisis> Tompok, :)
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Tompok: I haven't used Windows for days. :P
[03:03] <sistar> CBM-> All the error sounds and sounds in basic games r working, but no musi (pun intended) from cd's etc.
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> AmaroK?
[03:04] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, that worked wonderfully, It was selected already but for some reason it wasn't showing up, i unchecked it and recheck and it came up
[03:04] <Tompok> Thank you very much :)
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> You may need the amarok-arts package
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP, Tompok
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: sudo apt-get install amarok-arts in a terminal should do.
[03:05] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, better yet I even got my backports search back :)
[03:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> sweet. :)
[03:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone here know how to integrate wget and Opera?
[03:07] <Tompok> wget? wget isnt a gui, how about kget?
[03:07] <Tompok> thats probably doable
[03:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, but I like wget better :P
[03:08] <Tompok> haha
[03:08] <kroisis> Tompok, there are several wget front ends
[03:08] <Tompok> Umm...
[03:08] <Tompok> such as kget
[03:08] <kroisis> ..some are better than others.
[03:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> I didn't find the KGet GUI very nice. :\
[03:08] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, you could write your own opera extension to open a shell script with wget
[03:08] <Tompok> heh
[03:08] <sistar> CBM-> I aint got amarok engines either. Is it a dumb question to ask if i should get that too?
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: Um, not sure.
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why not? It can't hurt...
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:09] <kroisis> yesterday I d'ld  www.fema.gov using wget with the -r :)   came out to a bit over 12 GB
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> haha
[03:09] <Tompok> haha
[03:09] <kroisis> heh
[03:09] <kroisis> much fun was had
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> now what would be fun
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> is to wget -r webarchive.com
[03:10] <Tompok> --21:10:12--  http://www.whitehouse.gov/
[03:10] <Tompok>            => `www.whitehouse.gov/index.html'
[03:10] <Tompok> Resolving www.whitehouse.gov... 70.183.191.72, 70.183.191.80
[03:10] <Tompok> Connecting to www.whitehouse.gov|70.183.191.72|:80... connected.
[03:10] <Tompok> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[03:10] <Tompok> Length: 37,311 (36K) [text/html] 
[03:10] <Tompok>     0K .......... .......... .......... ......               100%  285.71 KB/s
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[03:10] <Tompok> Loading robots.txt; please ignore errors.
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[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
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[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> WB
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[03:10] <kroisis> er...Tomok be careful not to grab whitehouse.com
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[03:11] <kroisis> uh oh
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[03:11] <kroisis> Tompok, might wanna belay that
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[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, this is exciting
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[03:13] <kroisis> heya PhilKC
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[03:13] <Tompok> hahaha
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[03:14] <Adam_Kubuntu> HOLA A TODOS
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[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello.
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[03:14] <Adam_Kubuntu> TODOS SOMOS KUBUNTU, VERDAD?
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[03:15] <pinpoint> Tompok: can you please stop pasting.
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[03:15] <kroisis> I have to assume Tompok is not intending this result and is probably frantically trying to find a way out of it
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[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
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[03:15] <pinpoint> Tompok: NOW!
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[03:15] <kroisis> ...but I've been wrong before
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[03:15] <Tompok> --21:10:15--  http://www.whitehouse.gov/firstlady/
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[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> OPera doesn't have an ignore feature either. :(
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[03:15] <jsubl2> Tompok: you mind not flooding the channel
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[03:16] <kroisis> the joy of not having ops in channel
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[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah...
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[03:16] <PhilKC> nalioth++
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> thank you. :D
[03:16] <nalioth> y'all use !kops for help in here, ok?
[03:16] <PhilKC> nalioth, I do now :)
[03:16] <pinpoint> lol
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'll remember that, thanks. :)
[03:17] <pinpoint> suckas!
[03:17] <kroisis> heh
[03:17] <jsubl2> so hows the newest flight lookin.  anyone on it
[03:18] <kroisis> ...the sad thing is THAT one could have gone on for HOURS
[03:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah.
[03:18] <nalioth> it looks wonderful
[03:18] <kroisis> (please do not ask me how I know)
[03:18] <nalioth> flight 5 is lookin up
[03:18] <jsubl2> hey nalioth how are ya
[03:18] <nalioth> jsubl2: am quite fine, and you?
[03:18] <jsubl2> nalioth: good thanks
[03:20] <jafn> hello quick question to anyone in the know?
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> jafn: depends
[03:20] <Tompok> Im so sorry about that, I had no idea it was still pasting
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> what's the question.
[03:20] <Tompok> :(
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:20] <jafn> Is it possible to use konqueror as an actual full usage file browser ?
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> oops
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Full usage file browser?
[03:20] <Tompok> Thats why i left the first time
[03:20] <nalioth> jafn: yes, it is
[03:20] <jafn> as in GUI cut/paste?
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh, yes.
[03:21] <_michael> hi guys, i forgotten how to install apps again lol
[03:21] <Tompok> And when I came back I figured it wouldve stopped
[03:21] <jafn> everytime I try to use it to move a file It seems like i dont have permission, Im guessing I have to adjust a command line someplace to sudo when it opens?
[03:21] <nalioth> jafn: watch ubotu
[03:21] <nalioth> !kdesu
[03:21] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, I didn't know that
[03:21] <nalioth> jafn: if you use sudo to start konq, you will have trouble later
[03:21] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, what was the guys name who kicked me?
[03:22] <nalioth> Tompok: i removed you.
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've been using sudo to start Konq
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[03:22] <kroisis> the key is to finda front end that edits the links to a local file location
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[03:22] <Tompok> nalioth, Im so sorry about that
[03:22] <jafn> ok thaks for the info...Ill go find information on kdesu :)
[03:22] <EnglishStan> hello.... i downloaded yahoo messenger for debian, but i can't nstall it
[03:22] <nalioth> EnglishStan: better to compile it from source
[03:22] <Tompok> nalioth, I didn't even think it would let me exec wget let alone use the -o and keep doing it after i left the room
[03:22] <Tompok> :(
[03:22] <EnglishStan> i don't want to :P
[03:22] <nalioth> Tompok: don't use /exec
[03:22] <EnglishStan> i just wanna install this app
[03:23] <Tompok> nalioth, well it depends -o isnt a good idea
[03:23] <EnglishStan> i followed the instructions but it didn't work
[03:23] <nalioth> EnglishStan: using debian packages is not a good idea in ubuntu
[03:23] <kroisis> ...nor is -r ;)
[03:23] <Tompok> I use exec all the time to open programs while keeping focus on xchat
[03:23] <EnglishStan> nalioth: i was told to use debian  :/
[03:24] <EnglishStan> so what package do i use?? i got 2 other choices, redhat or freebsd
[03:25] <nalioth> EnglishStan: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[03:25] <nalioth> EnglishStan: if you have to force it, you are advised to find an ubuntu pkg
[03:25] <EnglishStan> :(
[03:25] <jafn> hmmm adept isnt finding anything for kdesu?
[03:25] <Tompok> !info kdesu
[03:26] <nalioth> jafn: alt-f2 > kdesu konqueror
[03:26] <anubis> Library files for "libknodepart.la" not found in paths.
[03:26] <EnglishStan> so how do i put the downloaded package in the package manager?
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> nalioth: out of curiosity, what's the difference between a debian package and an ubuntu package?
[03:26] <nalioth> EnglishStan: you don't. you run the command on it i gave you from a terminal interface
[03:27] <jafn> Ahh I see thank you nal
[03:27] <EnglishStan> i did but nothing happened
[03:27] <EnglishStan> i got an error
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> What error?
[03:27] <nalioth> CheeseBurgerMan: there are differences in core libs, that debian pkgs require. these are not present in ubuntu, and if you import them, you break ubuntu
[03:27] <EnglishStan> error procesing package.deb
[03:27] <jafn> 13 years of windows knowledge flushed down the drain, welcome to n00bville again /cry
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> ahhh
[03:27] <nalioth> EnglishStan: use the ******* name of the package.deb
[03:27] <EnglishStan> cannot access file archivew
[03:27] <jafn> thank you :)
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> jafn: hehe, fun isn't it? :P
[03:28] <EnglishStan> will it find it if i downloaded it to my desktop or do i need to download it to a certain location??
[03:29] <nalioth> EnglishStan: if you open a terminal, and type "cd Desktop", then run the command, you'll be fine
[03:29] <jafn> Im sure Ill get the hang of it sooner or later, I just need to hang in there, type what Im told enough times til I get it :)
[03:29] <EnglishStan> k
[03:30] <jafn> This is actually about the 4th or 5th time Ive tried a Linux install...this time I managed to get 3d acceleration working soooo *fingers crossed*
[03:30] <EnglishStan> nope, it won't have any of it mate
[03:30] <jafn> I figure as long as I can get this thing to play enemy territory...*shrug*
[03:30] <EnglishStan> it's saying no such directory
[03:31] <nalioth> EnglishStan: then i suggest you ask the great google about an ubuntu package for it, or compile it yourself or /msg ubotu seveas
[03:31] <EnglishStan> is compiling from source difficult?
[03:31] <nalioth> !compile
[03:31] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[03:32] <nalioth> EnglishStan: gaim does not do what you desire?
[03:32] <Kingpomba> i need to buy a ps2 keyboard :/
[03:32] <Tompok> or kopete
[03:33] <EnglishStan> i wanted to see what yahoo's Linux client was like, i'll give it a miss :P
[03:33] <EnglishStan> i'll stick with GAIM
[03:34] <EnglishStan> thanks for your help anyway :D
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Kopete sucks IMHO, but that's just me. :)
[03:34] <Kingpomba> really
[03:34] <Kingpomba> what do you use then
[03:35] <EnglishStan> btw, can you get scripts for Konversation IRC client?
[03:35] <Kingpomba> !konversation
[03:35] <ubotu> Konversation is an IRC client for KDE. See http://konversation.org
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Kingpomba: Gaim
[03:35] <Kingpomba> cool
[03:36] <EnglishStan> konversation.org
[03:36] <EnglishStan>  This domain may be for sale by its owner!  More details...
[03:36] <Kingpomba> i just need to buy a ps2 keyboard for my linux to work.... the waiting is killing me
[03:36] <Kingpomba> maybe i could hibernate for a few days
[03:37] <Kingpomba> only thing i need is msn and irc
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Kingpomba: I'm using Opera for IRC - not currently online with my IM accounts
[03:38] <Tompok> Ya I can't stand kopete
[03:38] <Tompok> It just seems so kiddish
[03:38] <Kingpomba> but the look of the screenshots neither can i
[03:38] <Kingpomba> I*
[03:39] <Kingpomba> http://konversation.kde.org/ ^ ^
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> yup
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan>  :P
[03:40] <EnglishStan> i am having difficuklty downloading a file
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
[03:40] <EnglishStan> it says 'access denied could not write to /usr/
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> EnglishStan: download to somewhere in your home folder
[03:42] <EnglishStan> the instruction for the script tells me to download it to /usr/
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> then sudo wget it
[03:42] <EnglishStan> whats that?
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> wget is a command line downloading program
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo gives you root priveliges.
[03:43] <EnglishStan> i know that, but what do you nmean by sudo wget
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Use wget with root privileges to downlod it to /usr/
[03:45] <EnglishStan> how do you cut and paste in a terminal window?
[03:45] <morpheus2485> i've been working at geting my pcmcia wifi card running for several hours - is there anyone who can help me?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> EnglishStan: Paste is Shift-Insert
[03:45] <morpheus2485> i can't seem to get pcmcia-cs to work
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Copy/cut you right click and click on copy
[03:46] <tristanmike> morpheus2485, is it a supported card ?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> or cut if that's what you want to do.
[03:46] <morpheus2485>  i think so
[03:46] <EnglishStan> ok, i sudo wget then the url... but where did it go?
[03:46] <tristanmike> morpheus2485, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> By default your home folder
[03:47] <EnglishStan> so how do i change it to sudo wget it to the /usr/ folder?
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> EnglishStan: what's the file you downloaded called?
[03:47] <EnglishStan> infobash
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> use sudo cp ~/infobash /usr/infobash
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> which copies it to /usr
[03:48] <Tompok> CheeseBurgerMan, tell me what you think of my screenies :) http://www.putfile.com/n0yd
[03:49] <Kingpomba> Pr0n :p
[03:49] <Tompok> The top 3 are kubuntu, the snext 3 are my gentoo box, and the bottom one is my server on mepis
[03:49] <Tompok> Pr0n?
[03:49] <Kingpomba> you mean screen 3 2 and 1
[03:49] <Tompok> huh?
[03:50] <morpheus2485> tristanmike moddles very close to it are supported, but i'm not sure that's the problem
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> As always, I like that butterfly-smashing-Tux one. :P
[03:50] <Tompok> haha
[03:50] <EnglishStan> Chmod +x infobash <--- what does that mean?
[03:50] <Tompok> makes infobash executable
[03:50] <morpheus2485> when i use 'cardctl ident' it says 'no product info available'
[03:50] <tristanmike> morpheus2485, just be aware that wireless is still kinda sketchy
[03:50] <Kingpomba> i was wondering where do you get widgets like that anyway Tompok
[03:50] <Tompok> i use superkaramba
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> SuperKaramba if I'm not mistaken
[03:50] <EnglishStan> where do i type that command?
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> WHich I'm not. :D
[03:50] <morpheus2485> shouldn't something come up even if there is no module for the card?
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Konsole
[03:50] <Tompok> apt-get install superkaramba
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> EnglishStan: Konsole
[03:51] <Tompok> gdesklets are like that bt much uglier imo
[03:51] <EnglishStan> hmmm, this is getting ridiculous lol.... kubuntu is way hard.... lol
[03:52] <EnglishStan> i'm off to bed, gonna have a go tomorrow
[03:52] <EnglishStan> lol
[03:52] <EnglishStan> ciao] 
[03:52] <morpheus2485> tristanmike and when i plug it in, dmesg gives no indication
[03:52] <Tompok> Kubuntu is by far the easiest distro I've ever used
[03:52] <morpheus2485> tristanmike, could it be a problem with hotplug?
[03:52] <Tompok> Especially with the large and friendly user base :)
[03:52] <tristanmike> are you saying it's a usb wifi?
[03:52] <morpheus2485> no
[03:52] <morpheus2485> pcmcia
[03:53] <morpheus2485> doesn't pcmcia use hotplug?
[03:53] <tristanmike> oh, sorry, misunderstood
[03:54] <morpheus2485> i'm out of ideas...
[03:55] <Tompok> wow amarok is going wacky
[03:55] <Tompok> is going through every song in my collection like every second without playing
[04:06] <sledge> I can't get my Laptop LCD to work in its native res (1280x800) in dual head mode
[04:13] <jafn> Does anyone know what i would have to do to get Enemy Territory to allow mod downloads and all the executing of custom cfg files from console?
[04:14] <jafn> they seem to download, but they wont actually install the mods or extra map files even if I start the game with a kdesu?
[04:17] <frank23> jafn: what you should have done is install as a user. running that as root is not the best idea
[04:18] <frank23> jafn: create a ~/opt/et directory and install it there maybe
[04:18] <jafn> ugh
[04:19] <jafn> so this is another.....try it and *mebbe* it will work option? :|
[04:20] <jafn> ok excuse the silly question, but whats the difference between installing it, and installing it as a user?
[04:20] <jafn> it seems to have planted itself in the usr folder? is that not installed as user?
[04:20] <jafn> O_o
[04:21] <frank23> jafn: if you install as user, all the files will be owned by the user. If you install as root, they are owned by root.
[04:21] <jafn> Im still not sure I follow....how would you go about installing anything as a user?
[04:22] <frank23> jafn: generally, if you can install something as a user its safer to do that. (and you eliminate the possibility that the installer screws up your system
[04:22] <jafn> as opposed to root, seeing as without a sudo or kdese you cant do jack****
[04:22] <frank23> jafn: how did you install it? I don't remember exactly how its packaged
[04:22] <jafn> sorry, my frustration level with this is starting to build
[04:23] <jafn> uhh  I downloaded the zip, changed it to a ....bin? file? I think and then SHd the bin file...I think..
[04:24] <jafn> I had to sudo the sh though or it wouldnt write the files, said I didnt have permissions otherwise
[04:24] <frank23> did you do sudo sh name.bin?  you just do sh name.bin instead
[04:24] <jafn> nope the install wouldnt let me have access to the folders required without using the sudo
[04:25] <frank23> jafn: maybe the install should work as root too, I really don't remember.  did you have the choice of where to install the program?
[04:25] <jafn> Im pretty sure it gave me an option for location for install
[04:26] <frank23> what I would do is create   ~/opt/enemyterritory  and tell it to install there
[04:26] <jafn> the thing is, if I try to run it without a kdesu command, I get the kubuntu gear spinning in the background and then it just sits there for about 15-20 seconds thinking about opening it and I get a bunch of errors in the console about couldnt open various things...
[04:26] <jafn> it still runs to start up screen, but not properly
[04:27] <frank23> jafn: what happens if you try to run it with sudo?
[04:27] <jafn> it wont work
[04:27] <frank23> is the game playable at all?
[04:27] <jafn> nope
[04:27] <frank23> what are the errors?
[04:27] <frank23> do you have 3d drivers?
[04:28] <jafn> yeah I checked that out, I spent 3 hours getting the ATI drivers for my 9800pro to work properly in OpenGL
[04:28] <frank23> jafn: did you install from the ati.com website or with apt-get?
[04:28] <jafn> last 2 hours have been trying to get this installed and functioning properly..
[04:29] <jafn> uhhhh
[04:29] <jafn> well, initially I grabbed the installed from the ATI site, realized I was clueless as to what to do with it
[04:29] <jafn> so I ran the apt-get for the 3 things that they recommend as the initial available components in the default repositories for breezy
[04:30] <jafn> and of course, those didnt work, so then I looked up some big thing on the wiki about installing them by converting them to .deb files
[04:30] <jafn> that finally worked
[04:30] <_bbeck> I have just converted an svg icon set to a native KDE icon set, but I'm running into this strange problem where if I run KMail by itself (alt+F2 then kmail) it uses the fall back icon set, but if I start Kontact, and go to Mail it uses the new set.  Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:30] <frank23> !ati
[04:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:31] <jafn> I just want to be able to run this thing and bust my custom cfgs so that I dont have to go in and spend 30 minutes typing commands into the console before I can play :|
[04:32] <frank23> jafn: what are the error messages when you try to run the game?
[04:33] <jafn> actually its not there anymore
[04:34] <jafn> I think its because the first time ET starts up, it writes to a default cfg file, and it wouldnt let it do that before
[04:34] <jafn> once I ran it once with the kdesu, it was allowed to write to that file so its no longer flaking at start up
[04:34] <jafn> even though I have removed that from the command line in the shortcut I made
[04:35] <jafn> trying to reproduce the error
[04:35] <jafn> I wonder if I could run it from the command line once with kdesu, run the cfgs and then remove it? :|
[04:36] <jafn> (kdesu)
[04:39] <jafn> thats weird...
[04:39] <frank23> jafn: maybe. although there is no good reason why you should need to run the game as root. If you actually need to run as root, maybe you should install it as a user instead as I suggested
[04:39] <jafn> its obviously downloaded the mod, but its not showing the modded files anyplace in the file browser? :|
[04:39] <jafn> I can get into game...
[04:40] <jafn> so it HAD to download the mod
[04:40] <jafn> but its not showing up anyplace in the install folder :|
[04:40] <frank23> jafn: maybe its in your home directory.     in   .et  or something.
[04:41] <frank23> jafn: in linux, program files and user files are kept separate
[04:41] <jafn> oh bleh
[04:41] <jafn> so if I placed....my custom cfg in the ET folder in the usr folder?
[04:41] <jafn> that might not have been the right section of the install?
[04:41] <jafn> O_o
[04:41] <sledge> jafn: /home/jafn/.et/
[04:42] <sledge> jafn: actually, /home/jafn/.et/baseet/
[04:42] <jafn> all I got in my home directory is Desktop
[04:42] <sledge> jafn: .et is a hidden directory
[04:43] <frank23> jafn: the .dot files may be hidden
[04:43] <sledge> jafn: Are you using konqueror or the console?
[04:43] <jafn> ahh ha
[04:43] <jafn> Konqueror
[04:43] <jafn> ok there it is, .etwolf
[04:44] <jafn> hmmm still no etpub mod folder :|
[04:44] <jafn> where on earth did that thing go? :|
[04:46] <jafn> could it all still be residing in memory? without being written to disk?
[04:46] <frank23> jafn: no ;)
[04:47] <jafn> Im sporting a gig, so its not like 50 megs of custom maps and and a 3 meg mod file would really be taking up a lot of space
[04:47] <frank23> jafn: in konqueror  F5 does a refresh
[04:48] <frank23> jafn: well whether files are physically on disk or not, the OS will always tell you they are there if they're supposed to be
[04:51] <jafn> can I do a search with a * wildcard?
[04:52] <jafn> if the file is going to be named 2006somedatehere.pk3
[04:52] <jafn> Im guessing not cause nothing was found..
[04:54] <jafn> finally...there it is
[04:55] <jafn> ok there are two hidden etwolf folders, one in home/username/.etwolf
[04:56] <jafn> and one in /root/.etwolf
[04:56] <sledge> the root one was creates when you did th kdesu thing
[04:57] <jafn> ok Im assuming thats the problem then...that it has been installed as root under the root folder? So how do I uninstall this and put it someplace where can I have access without using a sudo or kdesu thing?
[04:57] <jafn> hmmm is there a way to get rid of it at this point ?
[04:57] <sledge> jafn: move all et files into your home .et directory
[04:57] <sledge> jafn: sudo rm -rf /root/.et
[04:59] <jafn> rm : invalid option?
[04:59] <sledge> rm -r
[05:00] <jafn> ok...so now if I just run this thing without the kdesu..
[05:00] <jafn> it should work?
[05:01] <sledge> should do
[05:07] <jafn> hmmm odd...now I as soon as I connect to the server it crashes
[05:07] <jafn> dumps right out to desktop...
[05:08] <jafn> err graphical environment
[05:09] <RossH> hello
[05:15] <jafn> crud....I do believe im stuck
[05:15] <robotgeek> jafn: does it tell you why
[05:16] <robotgeek> jafn: go to console login, and check /home/user/.xsession-errors and /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:16] <jafn> nope...just connects to the server, tries to open a connection to download the content files for the etpub mod and a few of the custom maps and immeadiately crashes
[05:17] <jafn> console login? terminal?
[05:17] <robotgeek> yes
[05:20] <jafn> Sys_Error: Sys_LoadDll(ui) failed, no corresponding .so file found in fs_homepath or fs_basepath
[05:21] <robotgeek> jafn: is that what  it says in the file?
[05:21] <jafn> yeppers
[05:21] <jafn> aside from about 150 kbluetoothd bind failed errors after it
[05:21] <robotgeek> to be honest, i havent seen that one ever. i don't know what it means
[05:21] <jafn> apparently there is something bluetooth running
[05:21] <jafn> alot
[05:23] <jafn> oh wait..no that was just the final error before it crashed
[05:23] <jafn> several before that as well..
[05:24] <jafn> Couldn't write profiles/AKA/etconfig.cfg.
[05:24] <jafn> ERROR: DL_BeginDownload unable to open '/home/bill/.etwolf/etpub/ut_sexy.pk3.tmp' for writing
[05:24] <jafn> Failed to initialize download for 'http://www.bpark3downloads.serverservices.net//etpub/ut_sexy.pk3
[05:25] <jafn> CL_Shutdown -----
[05:25] <jafn> RE_Shutdown( 1 )
[05:25] <jafn> X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[05:25] <robotgeek> jafn: hmm, maybe not paste here?
[05:27] <jafn> sorry just easiest, I cant remember where the heck the pastebin is, and I really dont feel like searching around for 15 minutes on wiki or ubuntuforums or wherever the heck its lurkin
[05:27] <frank23> jafn: how did you move those files from /root/.et
[05:27] <frank23> jafn: look at the topic
[05:27] <jafn> I didnt, I deleted them
[05:27] <frank23> jafn: oh ok
[05:27] <jafn> they wouldnt move
[05:27] <jafn> so I gave em and chucked em completely
[05:27] <jafn> *gave up
[05:28] <robotgeek> jafn, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:28] <jafn> I figured if they downloaded once under kdesu they would download again if I didnt use root
[05:28] <jafn> I was wrong
[05:29] <jafn> I take it the only way I can do this is to do some sort of custom install in folders I have sudo'd myself full read write and execute priviledges for?
[05:29] <mrblue> stopkeylogger
[05:29] <jafn> O_o im lost
[05:30] <robotgeek> jafn: what were you trying to isntall again?
[05:31] <jafn> Enemy Territory
[05:31] <jafn> its supposed to be linux friendly
[05:31] <jafn> *ha*
[05:31] <robotgeek> jafn: i have no clue, i don;t play games.
[05:31] <robotgeek> the gamer dudes are not on right now
[05:31] <jafn> it installs and runs...but not without sudoing
[05:32] <jafn> and im 'not supposed to do it that way'
[05:32] <robotgeek> jafn: then sudo chown -R yourname Enmeyterritory
[05:32] <frank23> jafn: can't you just specify a folder in your home directory during install? then you never have to sudo anything
[05:32] <robotgeek> the whole directory
[05:32] <jafn> so if it installs into my home directory...then...I can run it without sudo commands?
[05:33] <jafn> well let me see if i can uninstall where its at now
[05:33] <jafn> and see what happens
[05:33] <jafn> crud..
[05:34] <jafn> I would do that....by....sudo apt-get remove nameofapphere?
[05:34] <jafn> would that be the full name of the original shell install script or ? :|
[05:37] <Kingpomba> !games
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[05:40] <KaoticEvil> hey Hobbsee :)
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hey KaoticEvil :)
[05:40] <Hobbsee> do i want to reinstall my entire machine?
[05:41] <KaoticEvil> probably not...
[05:41] <KaoticEvil> i know i hate doing that
[05:41] <KaoticEvil> you never get everything quite the way it was
[05:43] <Hobbsee> oh i dont know...backup of the /home partition
[05:43] <KaoticEvil> yeah, true...
[05:43] <KaoticEvil> im still used to working with anohter OS ;)
[05:44] <jafn> Voila....ok I managed to delete all the folders containing the old install
[05:44] <jafn> (no uninstal files...so)
[05:44] <anubis> Library files for "libknodepart.la" not found in paths.
[05:44] <KaoticEvil> im still wondering if i can get Diablo 2 to work ;)
[05:44] <jafn> so this time Im going to run the installer...but not use sudo?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: i've tripple booted before :P
[05:44] <KaoticEvil> triple? that all? :P
[05:45] <KaoticEvil> at one point in time, i have 6 OS's installed ;)
[05:45] <KaoticEvil> had*
[05:45] <Hobbsee> now that's crazy
[05:45] <jafn> ok installing sans sudo command
[05:45] <Hobbsee> i found 3 crasy!
[05:45] <Hobbsee> *crazy!
[05:46] <KaoticEvil> nah.... 98, ME, 2k, XP, Slack and Mandrake, and Win2003 :)
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ewww...
[05:46] <KaoticEvil> troubleshooting purposes...
[05:46] <jafn> ok so where would I want the 'symbolic links' for this game? Also under my home directory?
[05:46] <Hobbsee> hmmm ok
[05:48] <KaoticEvil> that was was when i was still running my business...
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:48] <KaoticEvil> ok, this is seriously staring to annoy me.
[05:49] <jafn> Would I stick the symbolic links to ET also in my home directory or just the main portion of the install?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> my problem is: if i reinstall XP, i'll have to reinstall the entire machine, and the only reason i'd need to reinstall XP is for networking on there, ie, nice wireless connections.
[05:49] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: ndiswrapper?
[05:49] <KaoticEvil> worked for me :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: i have ndiswrapper on here, and it works - but it doesnt connect to the network at my uni
[05:49] <jafn> do yourself a favor, drop the 40 bucks and buy a Dlink g630
[05:50] <KaoticEvil> different encryption sheme?
[05:50] <KaoticEvil> scheme*
[05:50] <jafn> after dicking with ndiswrapper and all that garbage for no less than 3 days
[05:50] <jafn> I popped in that card from my wifes dead laptop and rebooted, blammo
[05:50] <jafn> it worked fine
[05:50] <KaoticEvil> jafn: took me less than 20 minutes...
[05:50] <jafn> depends on the wireless card
[05:51] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: yeah, wpa here, no encryption at uni
[05:51] <Hobbsee> it just refuses to connect
[05:51] <jafn> I have an HP laptop
[05:51] <KaoticEvil> Marvell chipset
[05:51] <Hobbsee> jafn: try 80 - i'm in australia
[05:51] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: thats not ndiswrapper...
[05:51] <jafn> ahhh australia :P
[05:51] <Hobbsee> card connects using ndiswrapper, WPA is the encryption used
[05:51] <KaoticEvil> thatsin your wireless network settings... i had to tinker with all that myself
[05:51] <KaoticEvil> ndiswrapper only loads the drivers....
[05:52] <Hobbsee> yeah, that
[05:52] <Hobbsee> sorry, brain's a little dead
[05:52] <Hobbsee> but i finished my assignment!
[05:52] <KaoticEvil> but that doesnt tell it how to connect
[05:52] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:52] <KaoticEvil> that only tells the kernel how to talk to it
[05:52] <KaoticEvil> you can still change the encryption scheme..
[05:52] <jafn> so how do I install ET to my home directory? and do I also have to install the symbolic links to the same directory? or a different one under my home ?
[05:52] <KaoticEvil> i had to do all that, becaus ei changed the network config from WAP to no encryption here
[05:53] <jafn> and if I do all of this, does this mean more editing and crap so that everything knows where the rest of it is? :|
[05:53] <KaoticEvil> but ndiswrapper has nothig to do with any of that
[05:54] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: true, how's the easiest way to change the encryption scheme?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> apart from disabling wpa in the config file
[05:55] <KaoticEvil> in Settings, under the Internet and networkin section, go to Wireless Network
[05:55] <KaoticEvil> you can have up to 4 different configurations
[05:55] <Hobbsee> ah, true
[05:55] <KaoticEvil> ;)
[05:55] <KaoticEvil> just activate a different config setup :)
[05:56] <jlund> Is there a separate channel for Dapper questions?
[05:56] <frank23> jafn: where did you install the program?
[05:56] <KaoticEvil> just have one thats WPA, and one thats no ecryption :)
[05:56] <jafn> finally...
[05:56] <jafn> w00t
[05:56] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: it only works for WEP, not WAP, it seems
[05:56] <Hobbsee> or did i miss it?
[05:56] <KaoticEvil> oh?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> jlund: #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <KaoticEvil> i had wap on here...
[05:56] <jafn> I put the main files in home/myname/games/enemy-territory and then put the symbolic links in /home/myname
[05:57] <frank23> jafn: ok
[05:57] <jafn> cause it was the only place it would let me install the latter without using sudo
[05:57] <frank23> jafn: without sudo you have access anywhere inside /home/myname/
[05:58] <jafn> actually...thats what I figured too, I was going to put it in a subfolder in there but it told me I still didnt have access..
[05:58] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: there is another place i was in, doing configurations...
[05:58] <jafn> kinda weird :|
[05:58] <frank23> jafn: maybe its because the subfolder wasn't created yet
[05:58] <jafn> so I had to actually stick in right in my home, but we'll see
[05:59] <KaoticEvil> let me look, i dont have to do it all the time, and it may have moved on me since i went to KDE3.5... gimme a second to look around, ok?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: if you could find it, that'd be cool
[05:59] <jafn> yeah but it worked for the main install folder, just not the 'symbolic links'?
[05:59] <jafn> what are those/.
[05:59] <jafn> ?
[05:59] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: ill look... wait one
[05:59] <frank23> jafn: symbolic links?  they are special files that redirect to another file
[05:59] <jafn> hmmm
[05:59] <Hobbsee> cool
[06:00] <frank23> jafn: try  ls -l in your home  you should see the links it installed
[06:00] <jafn> ok let me try this again and see if it works this time
[06:00] <KaoticEvil> it may have been in the actual kcontrol.. instead of the kubuntu version of it...
[06:00] <Hobbsee> yeah, i saw somethign there - but it had no setting for wpa
[06:01] <frank23> I don't think there is any gui way to setup wpa
[06:01] <Hobbsee> pity
[06:01] <KaoticEvil> frank23: i had it setup
[06:01] <Hobbsee> there will be in netmanager 0.6, but that's for dapper +1
[06:02] <Hobbsee> and the kubuntu version of it...
[06:02] <KaoticEvil> and i sue GUI whenever possible.. and i remember using GUi to do it.. ive just to find where it was :P
[06:02] <Hobbsee> hehe go for it
[06:02] <frank23> KaoticEvil: for wpa or wep?
[06:02] <KaoticEvil> wpa
[06:02] <Kingpomba> !et
[06:02] <ubotu> Kingpomba: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:02] <jlund> I should probably do a full post about this on the forums but all of your guys here on IRC should be aware of Rockbox. It's open source alternative firmware for portable music players. It has all kind of cool features such as gapless playback, crossfade, and most importantly Ogg Vorbis support. It runs on iPod too. So now my Nano with Rockbox is seen as a just a drive and I can drag files and folders straight to it with no Gtkpod step. It
[06:02] <jlund> ww.rockbox.org
[06:02] <Kingpomba> !Enemy territory
[06:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kingpomba
[06:03] <robotgeek> jlund: thanks for the info, but please keep it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:03] <Kingpomba> don't see how its off topic
[06:03] <robotgeek> it's not support related?
[06:04] <robotgeek> tho it is linux related. and interesting. that is why I said thanks :)
[06:04] <Kingpomba> this is a support channel O_o
[06:10] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i have no idea man.. i cant find it now...
[06:10] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:10] <KaoticEvil> they must have moved it around or something between KDE3.4 and 3.5
[06:11] <KaoticEvil> but i KNOW it ws there, because i had to do it when i changed our home network between wpa and no encryption
[06:11] <KaoticEvil> but all ndiswrapper does is tell the kernel how to talk to the device
[06:13] <Hobbsee> yeah, you're right
[06:13] <Hobbsee> wonder where it is
[06:14] <Bicchi> If dapper doesn't have the lattest version of a software, to whom to i report/suggest an upgrade?
[06:14] <Mosi> hey folks... anyone know if amaroK needs any special libs to play mp3 files?
[06:14] <Hobbsee> Bicchi: which in particular?
[06:14] <Bicchi> Hobbsee: tkcvs
[06:14] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i know im right :P
[06:15] <KaoticEvil> drivers to the same thing no matter what OS you're running ;)
[06:15] <KaoticEvil> :)
[06:15] <Hobbsee> lol
[06:15] <Tm_T> Bicchi: problem is, we can't push newest stuff to dapper just like that, freeze and all ;(
[06:15] <Hobbsee> it'll need to wait till dapper +1
[06:16] <KaoticEvil> ill keep looking tho
[06:16] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: hi :)
[06:16] <Hobbsee> hey Tm_T
[06:16] <Mosi> does anyone know if i need to download a particular lib for amaroK to run mp3s?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[06:16] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:16] <KaoticEvil> xmms does it oob, btw :)
[06:17] <Bicchi> Tm_T: sorry i didn't understand you. but you mean there is a freeze for new software now.
[06:17] <Mosi> i did that. Rythmbox works fine, but amaroK won't
[06:17] <frank23> Mosi: did you try amarok-xine?
[06:17] <jlund> Mosi - You need to install libxine-extracodecs
[06:17] <Mosi> thanks
[06:17] <jlund> It's something like that. I may not be getting the name exactly right.
[06:18] <Tm_T> Bicchi: I'm not good to explain to stuff, but in basic: we can add bugfixes etc etc but no new features if it's not something "must"
[06:18] <KaoticEvil> Tm_T: would i be correct to assume that you're on the dapper team?
[06:19] <Tm_T> I am and I'm not =)
[06:19] <KaoticEvil> lol ok
[06:19] <Tm_T> I dont actually know where I am atm
[06:19] <Bicchi> so you right and wrong ?
[06:19] <KaoticEvil> heh ok... did you have anything to do with breezy?
[06:19] <Tm_T> KaoticEvil: ...maybe?
[06:19] <KaoticEvil> lol
[06:19] <Tm_T> hmm, I hide a lot these days
[06:20] <KaoticEvil> nothing bad man....
[06:20] <KaoticEvil> i just wanted to congratulate yall (the whole team) on creating a linux distro that is very easy to use for a newb, and yet still has the features available for more advanced users, and those who are in-between
[06:20] <Tm_T> heh
[06:21] <KaoticEvil> and to say thanks :)
[06:21] <Tm_T> I'm more just tester and shit-talker
[06:21] <Kingpomba> the ubuntu meeting for me is at 7 am :/
[06:21] <robotgeek> Tm_T: i'm going to blame you if i can't kopete
[06:21] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: right?
[06:21] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: i think you're counted as part of the kubuntu dapper devel team
[06:21] <KaoticEvil> ah, ok
[06:21] <Tm_T> robotgeek: =)
[06:21] <Kingpomba> ... im on holidays .. do they expect me to get up that early lol
[06:21] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[06:21] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I think so too
[06:21] <Hobbsee> Kingpomba: yes, meet all the kubuntu meetings for me - it' snot too bad
[06:21] <KaoticEvil> well, yall have done a bang-up job :)
[06:22] <Hobbsee> speaking of which, i have to finish doing somethign with checkinstall...
[06:22] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I'm also going to see doctor again, so see you later and have a good day :) ->
[06:22] <Hobbsee> cya :)
[06:23] <frank23> robotgeek: what desktop guide?
[06:23] <KaoticEvil> for the first time EVER... i have printing, file sharing (between windows and linux.. in BOTH directions) and sound all OOB
[06:23] <Hobbsee> yay!
[06:23] <KaoticEvil> now, if i could just get 3d acceleration....
[06:23] <robotgeek> !kdg
[06:23] <ubotu> is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/index.html
[06:24] <KaoticEvil> my next step... CD burning...
[06:24] <robotgeek> frank23: ^^
[06:25] <frank23> robotgeek: is it gonna be included in dapper?
[06:25] <robotgeek> frank23: yes
[06:25] <KaoticEvil> i hope to have a computer fast enough that will be able to appreciate dapper by the time its released..
[06:28] <KaoticEvil> ok, well, im off to bed... Hobbsee... ill do some more looking around tomorrow if i have time to see if i can find where that is, ok?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: yeah, that'd be great.  if i'm not there, either email me, or memo me
[06:28] <frank23> robotgeek: what does  libxine-extracodecs include and will amarok and kaffeine go back to xine as default?
[06:28] <Hobbsee>  /msg memoserv help to find out about memos, and my email's in my whois, IIRC
[06:29] <Hobbsee> or if not, /msg nickserv Hobbsee info
[06:29] <robotgeek> frank23: i havent installed any gstreamer stuff, and it works fine. so i am guessing it works cirrectly
[06:30] <frank23> robotgeek: I'm guessing  libxine-extracodecs still doesn't include w32codecs does it?
[06:30] <robotgeek> frank23: right
[06:30] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: got it... ill let ya know :)
[06:30] <Hobbsee> k :)
[06:30] <KaoticEvil> peace yall! *throws dueces*
[06:31] <frank23> robotgeek: dapper has a automatic updater in the system tray. maybe that should be added to the guide.
[06:31] <robotgeek> frank23: it is?
[06:32] <robotgeek> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/ch02s04.html
[06:32] <frank23> robotgeek: ok I didn't read far enough ;)
[06:32] <robotgeek> heh
[06:35] <pradeepto> robotgeek: I am here already
[06:36] <robotgeek> Tm_T: Hobbsee https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/30634
[06:36] <robotgeek> has it been fixed in breezy release?
[06:37] <Hobbsee> in breezy?  how would i know?  :P
[06:39] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: kde 3.5.1?
[06:39] <robotgeek> same for dapper also, right
[06:39] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:40] <frank23> robotgeek: I was thinking about this earlier:  Would it be possible to make the existence of easyubuntu obvious when you first log in. I'm sure that would be useful for many. It would be the official unoffical ubuntu desktop setup tool
[06:41] <Red_Herring> nice idea
[06:41] <robotgeek> frank23: that doesn't work on kubuntu.
[06:41] <Red_Herring> i wanna have kxdocker come by default, with all the nice icons too
[06:42] <frank23> robotgeek: I've never actually used easyubuntu but it looks nice. I didn't know easyubuntu was ubuntu-specific
[06:43] <robotgeek> frank23: i know, cause i write that :)
[06:43] <frank23> robotgeek: you wrote easyubuntu?
[06:43] <robotgeek> frank23: part of the team writing it now
[06:43] <Red_Herring> robotgeek: but its it a very easy change from ubuntu-specific stuff to kubuntu?
[06:43] <frank23> robotgeek: how different would easykubuntu be?
[06:44] <robotgeek> can we discussin #easyubuntu please
[06:44] <Red_Herring> nah, i just was wondering
[06:44] <Red_Herring> w/e
[07:13] <Teknoenie> i cannot seem to get rails to display the scaffolding for my controller
[07:13] <Teknoenie> any help please?
[07:15] <robotgeek> Teknoenie: what are you talkin about :)
[07:16] <Teknoenie> i did a script/generate scaffold MyCompany and when i go to /MyCompany it's blank instead of the scaffold
[07:18] <frank23> you mean a directory?
[07:18] <Teknoenie> no i mean a blank page
[07:20] <frank23> I'm pretty sure I won't be able to help you but I'm curious, what program are you talking about?
[07:21] <frank23> I'm not getting any smarter tonight ;)
[07:24] <anubis> where is the control center?
[07:24] <anubis> please
[07:24] <anubis> I need KDE to stop trying to turn on composite and trans in X?
[07:25] <mimi> I'm trying to install a theme under kubuntu and I need a bit of help, if anyone is free?
[07:25] <robotgeek> anubis, use alt + f2, kcontrol
[07:27] <Red_Herring> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Wilde
[07:27] <Red_Herring> spread the word!
[07:27] <mimi> the instructions say "Under control center select 'look'n'feel" i do not have that
[07:27] <mimi> i have appearances though
[07:29] <mimi> does anyone have any experience installing themes?
[07:29] <robotgeek> mimi: try it from kcontrol
[07:29] <mimi> what is kcontrol?
[07:29] <robotgeek> mimi, use alt + f2, kcontrol
[07:29] <robotgeek> type kcontrol
[07:30] <frank23> mimi: like system settings but different
[07:31] <mimi> well this is my friends comp and we have been working for nearly 4 hours to install this theme and...well we are tired
[07:31] <anubis> robotgeek: thx
[07:31] <mimi> Select Theme Manager and then kde_xp in the theme list. Click on Apply.
[07:31] <mimi> there is no 'Theme Manager' to click on...
[07:31] <robotgeek> mimi: maybe i can help you if you link me to the theme
[07:31] <mimi> wait ok found it but the kde_xp theme is not here...hmm
[07:31] <mimi> ok!
[07:33] <mimi> wow! I think I finally got it!
[07:33] <mimi> robotgeek thank you SO much for pointing me kcontrol! thats just what we needed!!
[07:33] <robotgeek> Mater: cool
[07:40] <swedish> is there a program similar to object dock for linux?
[07:40] <swedish> or like the program bar in OSX
[07:40] <anubis> The Composite Manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session.
[07:40] <anubis> Where do I turn this off please?
[07:44] <mimi> one more question how can I add the home and and such icons to the desktop?
[07:45] <anubis> Where do I turn this off please?
[07:45] <mimi> turn what off, anubis?
[07:49] <frank23> anubis: is the composite manager something you activated yourself?
[08:06] <swedish> is there a way to change the default os that lilo/grub boots when i dont select an OS?
[08:07] <frank23> swedish: you can try editing /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:07] <frank23> menu.lst sorry
[08:08] <frank23> I'm not totally sure that's it though
[08:09] <swedish> yeah im lookin at it right now....
[08:09] <frank23> I think its the default line
[08:11] <swedish> yea
[08:11] <swedish> not sure
[08:12] <swedish> anyways, anyone know of a objectdock like program for linux
[08:12] <swedish> similar to the OSX bar
[08:12] <mijndert> Good morning
[08:12] <frank23> If you want the 4th entry in the list to be default, put default 3
[08:12] <swedish> ok
[08:13] <swedish> i jsut want XP to be my default
[08:13] <swedish> but i think the savedefault command selects the last OS i ran to be default
[08:13] <swedish> ill have to tes
[08:13] <swedish> test
[08:13] <frank23> swedish: yeah
[08:13] <swedish> ok well, night all
[08:35] <slyphon> does anyone have a good way to keep kde prefs between a laptop and desktop synchronized?
[08:36] <slyphon> is it as simple as just using rsync?
[08:38] <kalenedrael> 'synchronized'?
[08:39] <kalenedrael> You can copy the contents of the .kde directory to the other computer...
[08:39] <slyphon> well, i want to keep the settings for my panels and such the same on both my laptop and desktop
[08:39] <_frank> slyphon: if you keep both .kde folders syncronised, I guess that would be it
[08:39] <slyphon> ok, just didn't know if it were more complicated than that
[08:39] <slyphon> i'm not new to linux, just to kde3
[08:59] <johnathana> a serious bug was discovered in ubuntu
[08:59] <johnathana> saw it in slashdot.org
[08:59] <robotgeek> johnathana: yes. and fixed too
[08:59] <robotgeek> like 10 hours ago
[09:01] <DeBert> yeah, kinda embarasing bug if u ask me... :s
[09:02] <robotgeek> DeBert: :)
[09:33] <SlicerDicer-> I am running dual X sessions and trying to figure out why I can only get one of my kicker bars to go transparent
[09:33] <SlicerDicer-> any ideas?
[09:36] <armin> Hallo
[09:37] <Kingpomba> yeah i read about that bug
[09:37] <Kingpomba> wow plain text...
[09:42] <SlicerDicer-> nobody famliar with dual X sessions?
[09:55] <henk> hi, how do i configure katapult to include some of my own shortcuts?
[10:07] <Riddell> henk: add them as bookmarks
[10:09] <SlicerDicer-> I am running seperate X sessions I can get one kicker to go transparent the other kicker refuses to accept any modifications I do to the actual color of it I cannot change it to any color or transparent it.
[10:09] <henk> Riddell bookmarks where ?
[10:10] <Riddell> henk: to KDE (konqueror is the usual place)
[10:10] <farous> ubotu recommend sharpmusique as replacement for itunes anyone tried it
[10:10] <Tm_T> hullo
[10:11] <Tm_T> farous: nah, amaroK <3
[10:11] <Tm_T> ;)
[10:11] <teequ> hi. Does someone now how to disable automatic launching of konqueror when you insert (audio) cd? I want it to be automatically mounted, but I just want to disable Konqueror launching.
[10:11] <teequ> s/now/know
[10:11] <farous> Tm_T: so it is compat with itunes. am looking for stanford lectures that seem to be offered only on itunes
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> damn damn damn :/
[10:12] <Tm_T> farous: no, amaroK is very different
[10:12] <henk> Riddell but that can only be a location i guess ?
[10:12] <Riddell> henk: what else do you want?
[10:12] <farous> hm so back to my first quest what is a package that is compat with itunes.
[10:12] <Tm_T> farous: what you are actually looking for? what lectures?
[10:12] <farous> Tm_T: i am still trying to browse it but looking for manufacturing lectures
[10:13] <Tm_T> farous: and how it have something to do with itunes?
[10:13] <Tm_T> farous: only play in itunes or what?
[10:13] <henk> Riddell i was kinda looking for a way to define a set of commands that katapult whould try to match firt before using the systems bookmarks/programs/locations etc.
[10:14] <farous> Tm_T: that is what they say on their website
[10:14] <farous> only accessi through itunes am now try to search where can i get it but so far failed
[10:14] <Tm_T> farous: ah, then any proper player suits fine
[10:14] <Tm_T> should work atleast
[10:14] <farous> thanx Tm_T will try that
[10:15] <farous> thanx again
[10:15] <Tm_T> farous: they are audio? oh, he's gone...
[10:15] <henk> Riddell for instance i whould like to define a shortcut to konsole logging into a few remote locations by typing the servername
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> !xgl
[10:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:17] (Melsen/#kubuntu) Any networking experts here?
[04:17] (bipolar/#kubuntu) thompa: I would like to see the KDE GUI tools for it, but my limited playing did not show anything useful.
[04:17] (thompa/#kubuntu) ive done that too, but in ubuntu the network config is there on desktop
[04:17] (bipolar/#kubuntu) Melsen: depends on your deff of "Expert"
[04:17] (thompa/#kubuntu) in kde there is still nothing by default to show you are even connected
[04:18] (Melsen/#kubuntu) Well... Im trying to figure out is there is a way to backtrace an IP number if all you have is the MAC address of the netcard on the LAN
[04:18] (bipolar/#kubuntu) thompa: yes, the integration is still slightly lacking on kubuntu.
[04:18] <Melsen> I thought I could use arp.. but that doesnt seem to be able to do it
[04:18] <bipolar> Melsen: heh.... have access to the DHCP server?
[04:18] <Melsen> Yep.. but let's just say I dont =)
[04:19] <boz> those folk over in #ubuntu are kinda nervous types, huh?
[04:19] <bipolar> Melsen: well... I don't now off the top of my head. but the dhcp leases file would show you.
[04:19] <thompa> well i found in system: networking, the same tool as in gnome
[04:19] <conn> can someone do me a favour? apt-get stress and invoke it with "stress -c 100" (to create 100 sqrt() workers) while running in gnome or kde, and tell me if it interferes with multitasking to the extent that the mouse is almost unusuable and extremely jerky? (control+c will exit the program as long as your terminal is focused)
[04:19] <thompa> that will work
[04:19] <Melsen> Im sitting here locally on my machine... Next to me, I got my laptop.. Now.. I can naturally see the IP number myself.. but, just for the fun of it.. is there any possible way to do a spoof or something on the network that would tell you the IP number of a specific MAC address
[04:21] <Melsen> Is it possible from locate the IP number of a specific machine if all you have is the MAC address... ?
[04:21] <bipolar> Melsen: arp -a
[04:21] <thompa> bipolar: how can i check my primary dns, i did iwconfig, dhcp seems ok?
[04:21] <Melsen> Nope =)
[04:21] <bipolar> Melsen: ping the IP. then run it
[04:21] <Melsen> I thought that myself
[04:21] <Melsen> I dont have the IP =)
[04:21] <Melsen> All I got is a MAC Address
[04:22] <thompa> cool, i just found a bunch of networking tools under system:
[04:22] <bipolar> Melsen: well, first the machine would not need to have an IP to be on the network with a mac address.
[04:22] <bipolar> Melsen: broadcast ping the subnet, then use arp -a
[04:23] <Melsen> I can do that?
[04:23] <Melsen> How do I do a broadcast ping?
[04:23] <thompa> network tools 2.13.91 is included, seems to have everything in a nice gui
[04:23] <bipolar> Melsen: ping 192.168.1.255
[04:23] <Melsen> Ohh
[04:23] <Melsen> duh
[04:23] <Melsen> hehe
[04:23] <bipolar> need to use sudo I think.
[04:24] <thompa> Melsen: do you have network tools under system: from menu?
[04:24] <Melsen> sec
[04:24] <thompa> it has ping etc in nice gui
[04:24] <thompa> im on dapper though
[04:24] <Melsen> kde 3.5.1 here
[04:25] <bipolar> thompa: your running gnome then.
[04:25] <Melsen> Nope
[04:25] <Melsen> I dont thompa
[04:25] <thompa> im in kubuntu, is the app part of gnome?
[04:25] <bipolar> thompa: oh... you mean the system under the K menu?
[04:25] <thompa> yes
[04:25] <Melsen> I use Kubuntu too
[04:25] <bipolar> thompa: NM.... /me kicks self
[04:26] <thompa> i did install ubuntu first though
[04:26] <bipolar> thompa: I think those are gnome apps.
[04:27] <thompa> under synaptic its called net-tools
[04:27] <thompa> oh, well im going to use it, maybe it will be part of kubuntu
[04:28] <bipolar> thompa: nope. it's a gnome app. it will apt-getable, of course, but not on the CD.
[04:29] <thompa> so is there a kubuntu equivalent?
[04:29] <thompa> there is network settings in control panel anyway
[04:31] <thompa> bipolar: how can i check if im using some kind of secondary dns or something?
[04:32] <bipolar> thompa: check /etc/resolv.conf. see how many 'nameserver' entries are there.
[04:32] <thompa> ok
[04:32] <bipolar> thompa: if there is only one, ping it and see if it responds quickly...
[04:33] <bipolar> thompa: then, try 'nslookup google.com' and see how long it takes to resolve.
[04:34] <bipolar> thompa: that nslookup command tells me googles ip address in less then 1/2 a sec.
[04:34] <thompa> i have one nameserver in resolve
[04:35] <thompa> ping was 3 secs- 1 sec
[04:35] <bipolar> thompa: that seems high.
[04:35] <thompa> do you mean good?
[04:35] <bipolar> thompa: so there is part of your problem.  try the nslookup
[04:35] <bipolar> thompa: no, lower is better.
[04:36] <thompa> average 2.59 secs
[04:36] <bipolar> thompa: you mean sec's or Mili-secs?
[04:37] <thompa> mili, secs sorry
[04:37] <thompa> so its fast
[04:37] <bipolar> thompa: ok. then thats ok.
[04:37] <balu1> gasp :X
[04:37] <bipolar> thompa: try the nslookup... let me give you an exact command....
[04:38] <bipolar> thompa: 'time nslookup google.com'
[04:38] <bipolar> thompa: what is the result after 'Real'
[04:38] <thompa> .019
[04:38] <bipolar> thompa: I get 'real    0m0.043s'
[04:39] <thompa> so its good
[04:39] <bipolar> thompa: not bad
[04:39] <thompa> im wireless cable also
[04:39] <bipolar> thompa: try 'time nslookup yahoo.com' and tell me what it says
[04:40] <thompa> .046
[04:40] <thompa> real
[04:40] <bipolar> ok.
[04:40] <bipolar> thats in line. the .019 sounded like a cached lookup :)
[04:40] <bipolar> thompa: I don't know what else could be causing the slowdown.
[04:41] <bipolar> thompa: I'm out of ideas :\
[04:41] <thompa> its not too bad,
[04:45] <thompa> bipolar: i get sometimes timeout on server though
[04:45] <thompa> most noticibly , in some thing like bzflag, it has to sit some 30 secs before its online
[04:45] <thompa> lots of lag
[04:46] <bipolar> thompa: hmmm... wireless?
[04:46] <thompa> yes, and i just did another traceroute 4.130ms
[04:46] <thompa> i think its acpi
[04:46] <bipolar> thompa: interferance maybe.... try running a cable to your box and see if it goes away.
[04:47] <thompa> good point
[04:47] <thompa> im going to shut off wireless, brb
[04:47] <bipolar> k
[04:50] <thompa> bipolar: i cant enable eth1, netwrok settings also crashes when i do
[04:50] <ninHer> hi all
[04:50] <thompa> at least the wireless works
[04:51] <bipolar> thompa: bah... eth1 is wired?
[04:51] <bipolar> thompa: has eth1 ever been configured?
[04:51] <thompa> yes, if i click configure, i get crash window
[04:51] <bipolar> thompa: don't do it there. edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:51] <bipolar> thompa: it's all dhcp, right?
[04:51] <thompa> yes
[04:52] <bipolar> thompa: yeah, just edit that file. see what it says for iface eth1, if it's there.
[04:52] <bipolar> thompa: if eth1 is not there at all, add 'iface eth1 inet dhcp' to the end of the file.
[04:53] <thompa> no eht1 is not there, can i use same line as eth0,?
[04:53] <thompa> RIGHT
[04:53] <bipolar> thompa: :)
[04:53] <bipolar> thompa: then after you save the file, run 'sudo ifup eth1'
[04:54] <bipolar> thompa: you might want to deactivate eth0 first
[04:54] <bipolar> ifdown eth0
[04:54] <thompa> do i need auto eth1? eth0 has it
[04:54] <bipolar> thompa: the 'auto' line tells the network system what to start on boot. don't touch it until you know what you want.
[04:54] <thompa> brb
[04:59] <ziza> hi
[05:09] <noteventime> 'ello
[05:10] <noteventime> Why doesn't Ubunt have built in MIDI playback?
[05:10] <ziza> maybe it needs a codec?
[05:10] <noteventime> No, a squencer
[05:10] <noteventime> sequencer*
[05:10] <noteventime> Or however it is spelled ^^
[05:11] <thompa-B> bipolar: thanks for the help
[05:11] <ziza> well, i don't know much about MIDI anyway :)
[05:11] <thompa-B> still there is some lag, im going to try again with a live cd
[05:13] <visik7> finally I got decent gtk1 theme and font
[05:14] <dennis_p> Hi Riddell, I'm getting a new harddisk for my beige powermac g3 233MHz is there a dapper CD I should try-out?
[05:15] (Riddell/#kubuntu) dennis_p: you can test the flight 5 candidate in an hour or two
[05:15] (snikker/#kubuntu) my network connection work only if i run: "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.10. broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" (interfaces file is ok)
[05:16] (snikker/#kubuntu) what mean?
[05:16] (dennis_p/#kubuntu) wow nice service :-), but the drive has not arrived yet
[05:18] <snikker> no ones?
[05:23] <ubuntu> hello, I wuse Kubuntu LIVE-CD. I want to mount 2 hds. In "disk & filesystems", they are not enabled an i want to enable, but the "modify..."-fields are greyed out :-( How to mount them.
[05:23] <ubuntu> ?
[05:24] <ubuntu> do i need admin/root rights?
[05:24] <ubuntu> how to have them with the live-cd?
[05:26] <Tm_T> ubuntu: sudo su
[05:26] <Tm_T> and then mount --help
[05:28] <dipnlik> what is the program that locks the screen in kde?
[05:28] <ubuntu> Tm_T: tryed that but it didn't mount...
[05:28] <ubuntu> it said
[05:28] <ubuntu> "hda1 is already mounted
[05:28] <ubuntu> or is busy
[05:28] <ubuntu> something like that...
[05:29] <ubuntu> but the HD IS NOT mounted
[05:30] <Tm_T> ok then..
[05:30] <ubuntu> then what ?
[05:30] <ubuntu> :-)
[05:32] <bipolar> thompa-B: it's working?
[05:38] <thompa-B> bipolar: not really working as well as it should, its sometimes slow
[05:39] <bipolar> thompa-B: hmm... and wireless is down and not being used, right?
[05:40] <thompa-B> right
[05:40] <syzgod> how can i activate the scroll button mouse for using in kde?
[05:41] <bipolar> thompa-B: hmmm.... and only on this machine? not on others on the network?
[05:41] <thompa-B> i think so. ill have to check that,
[05:42] <thompa-B> bipolar: i just tried sending some emails and it waited about a minute
[05:43] <thompa-B> im going to try changing desktop environments, who knows
[05:43] <bipolar> thompa-B: that really sounds like a dns issue. if it hangs for a while, then sends all the data quickly, it sounds like it's a slow dns lookup. weird
[05:48] <ubuntu> ok, i just read on the internet that mounting harddisks with live-cd is NOT possible at all :-( :-( :-(
[05:48] <thompa-B> bipolar: well to be sure im going to try a live cd of something first, what do you think?
[05:48] <bipolar> ubuntu: thats not true
[05:48] <thompa-B> then maybe i should call comcast
[05:48] <bipolar> thompa-B: that would prove out software. check your other machines for slowdowns first.
[05:49] <thompa-B> right, ill be back later this afternoon if your curious
[05:49] <thompa-B> thanks again
[05:49] <bipolar> no thompa-B
[05:49] <bipolar> no prob*
[05:50] <bipolar> ubuntu: as long as the modules are in the live cd dist for mounting IDE disks and for the file system you want access to, you can mount a hard disk on a directory from a live cd. I've done it many times.
[05:55] <noteventime> ubuntu: Although NTFS support isnt on the LiveCD, as far as i know anyway.
[05:56] <bipolar> noteventime: that's probbly ubuntu's problem.
[05:56] <bipolar> ubuntu: knopix has it if you need to do some recovery work.
[05:57] <marseillai> Riddell: i don't know if you have enough time for this and you must be borrow about xgl question but i think it would be a good idea to make a Kubuntu live cd using Xgl with kde-compiz, kdm, and kde-window-decorator when it'll work with xgl! it'll make promotion for kubuntu and show that xgl work with kde too and not only gnome!
[05:58] <ubuntu> bipolar: i know
[05:58] <ubuntu> but i'm talking about the kubuntu live-cd
[05:58] <ubuntu> at least not ntfs
[05:59] <ubuntu> or did you manage to mount it?
[05:59] <Riddell> marseillai: I don't expect xgl to work with kde for a while
[06:00] <marseillai> Riddell: because of kde-window-decorator ?
[06:01] <Tm_T> because it's not done to work in KDE
[06:01] <marseillai> Riddell: because on my dapper partition it works! it's not simple to do, not everything work but it works
[06:01] <Riddell> marseillai: yes, and xgl generally is unreliable to work
[06:01] <Tm_T> aye
[06:01] <marseillai> oki
[06:01] <noteventime> Apt, could use a new version of Crystal Space
[06:02] <ubuntu> bipolar, noteventime: so it's definately NOT possible to mount a hd (ntfs!) with the kubuntu live-cd?
[06:02] <noteventime> As far as i know no
[06:02] <ubuntu> without having to modify it?
[06:02] <bipolar> ubuntu: try 'modprobe ntfs' and see if the module exists.
[06:02] <noteventime> marseilla: You can use XGL with kde
[06:02] <noteventime> marseilla: Just use the gnome-window-decorator
[06:02] <noteventime> marseilla: If you by Xgl mean compiz
[06:03] <ubuntu> that's what i get:
[06:03] <ubuntu> FATAL: Error inserting ntfs (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:03] <ubuntu> ubuntu@x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45:~$ sudo modprobe ntfs
[06:03] <ubuntu> ubuntu@x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45:~$
[06:03] <noteventime> sudo ;)
[06:04] <ubuntu> yeah i did it
[06:04] <bipolar> ubuntu: that looks like it loaded.
[06:04] <bipolar> ubuntu: so, now try mounting the drive to a directory
[06:04] <ubuntu> ok
[06:04] <marseillai> noteventime: i know! but i wonder to see a kubuntu livecd and it seems it's not a plan
[06:05] <johnathana> ubuntu: try lsmod | grep ntfs
[06:05] <noteventime> ahhh, you could make one ^^
[06:05] <marseillai> t1! j'ai du mal avec l'anglais moi en ce moment
[06:06] <ubuntu> FATAL: Error inserting ntfs (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:06] <ubuntu> ubuntu@x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45:~$ sudo modprobe ntfs
[06:06] <ubuntu> ubuntu@x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45:~$
[06:06] <ubuntu> i get this as always :-( :
[06:06] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[06:06] <ubuntu> but it's not mounted...
[06:07] <bipolar> ubuntu: what commands are you using to mount?
[06:07] <ubuntu> sudo mount
[06:07] <bipolar> ubuntu: whats the entire command?
[06:08] <ubuntu> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc /media/hda1
[06:08] <bipolar> ubuntu: you are trying to mount an entire drive, you need to pick a partition.
[06:08] <ubuntu> jonathana: i get this when typing what you suggested: "ntfs                   92016  0"
[06:08] <ubuntu> well i have no partition
[06:08] <ubuntu> just 2 hds
[06:08] <bipolar> ubuntu: IE... *not* /dev/hdc
[06:08] <Tm_T> ...
[06:09] <Tm_T> there is always partitions
[06:09] <bipolar> ubuntu: trust me... there is a partition...
[06:09] <Tm_T> or there's no data
[06:09] <ubuntu> ok
[06:09] <ubuntu> so what then?
[06:09] <Tm_T> if just one, it's 1
[06:09] <ubuntu> hda1?
[06:09] <bipolar> ubuntu: use fdisk to check. run fdisk, then hit 'p' <enter> to list them.
[06:09] <Tm_T> for example yes
[06:09] <johnathana> ubuntu: ntfs driver is loaded
[06:09] <bipolar> ubuntu: fdisk /dev/hdc
[06:10] <ubuntu> ok
[06:10] <ubuntu> Unable to open /dev/hdc
[06:11] <ubuntu> it says
[06:11] <bipolar> ubuntu: are you sure its /deb/hdc then?
[06:11] <noteventime> Are you sure /dev/hdc is your HD?
[06:11] <ubuntu> yes or hdc1
[06:11] <ubuntu> but i get the same
[06:11] <bipolar> ubuntu: is it the only hard drive on the system?
[06:11] <noteventime> hdc1 is a partition ;)
[06:12] <noteventime> i think
[06:12] <ubuntu> no, i have hdc and hdd
[06:12] <bipolar> ubuntu: /dev/hdc is the primary IDE drive on the secondary IDE chanel.
[06:12] <ubuntu> hehe
[06:12] <ubuntu> i tried again
[06:12] <ubuntu>  with sudo
[06:12] <ubuntu> that's what i get
[06:12] <bipolar> ubuntu: that would do it...
[06:12] <bipolar> what do you get?
[06:13] <ubuntu> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4866.
[06:13] <ubuntu> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[06:13] <ubuntu> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[06:13] <ubuntu> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[06:13] <ubuntu> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[06:13] <ubuntu>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[06:13] <bipolar> ignore that.
[06:13] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[06:13] <ubuntu> johnathana
[06:13] <ubuntu> and then?
[06:14] <johnathana> ubuntu: works?
[06:14] <ubuntu> i get "drive type"
[06:14] <johnathana> you get error?
[06:14] <ubuntu> ah no sorry i get an error :-(
[06:15] <johnathana> can you tell me you r /etc/fstab file
[06:15] <ubuntu> what's that exactly :-)?
[06:15] <ubuntu> i have the live-cd
[06:15] <johnathana> no matter
[06:16] <johnathana> type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:16] <ubuntu> sudo: gedit: command not found
[06:16] <ubuntu> ?
[06:16] <johnathana> type sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:17] <ubuntu> yep did worked
[06:17] <johnathana> so?
[06:17] <ubuntu> should i paste it?
[06:17] <johnathana> yes
[06:18] <ubuntu> ubuntu@x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45:~$ sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:18] <ubuntu> /usr/bin/iceauth:  creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority
[06:18] <ubuntu> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:18] <ubuntu> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:18] <ubuntu> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[06:18] <ubuntu> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[06:18] <ubuntu> Creating link /root/tmp-x1-6-00-30-4f-11-c9-45.
[06:18] <bipolar> lol
[06:18] <ubuntu> flooder i am :-)
[06:18] <robotgeek> ubuntu, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:18] <bipolar> ubuntu: don't paste so much
[06:18] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[06:18] <johnathana> no that
[06:19] <johnathana> the contencts of the file
[06:19] <bipolar> ubuntu: it's ok. uran00b :P
[06:19] <ubuntu> hehe
[06:19] <ubuntu> don't make fun
[06:19] <bipolar> ubuntu: we all started there. :)
[06:19] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo cat /etc/fstab
[06:20] <ubuntu> ok
[06:20] <ubuntu> the kate windows opened with an error
[06:20] <johnathana> ubuntu: ok try sudo cat /etc/fstab
[06:20] <ubuntu> ok
[06:21] <ep> What is KDE's office package, koffice?  I've been using Openoffice.  Should I try this also.  I reads OpenDocument files, right?   Does it run anything in the background?   I hate a bunch of stuff running that I don't use.
[06:21] <robotgeek> ep: try it and find out?
[06:21] <bipolar> ep: eh... koffice isn't as full featured as OpenOffice. its getting better, but for interoperabilities sake I'd stick with openoffice.
[06:22] <noteventime> ep: kword is nice, although i sometimes like OO better
[06:22] <bipolar> ep: but by all means, try it out. it doesn't cost anything... :)
[06:22] <ep> ok
[06:22] <ubuntu> johnathana: what should happen ?
[06:22] <ep> thanks
[06:22] <Gentix> I want to browse a network share with smb4k but I get the error smbmnt must be installed suid root ......
[06:22] <bipolar> Gentix: don't use that.
[06:23] <bipolar> Gentix: in konq, use smb:/<server>
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[06:23] <johnathana> ubuntu: this command shows the content of the file
[06:23] <bipolar> Gentix: or, better yet, if the server is a linux server runing samba, use fish:/ to access via ssh.
[06:23] <bipolar> Gentix: yeah. replace <server> with the name or IP of the server
[06:23] <Gentix> it's a true windows share
[06:23] <ubuntu> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[06:23] <ubuntu> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[06:23] <ubuntu> when i type this i get that in terminal window:
[06:24] <at1as> Melsen: You could do a ping sweep using nmap or you could do some sort of nmblookup...
[06:24] <johnathana> ubuntu: ok
[06:24] <ubuntu> and now ?
[06:24] <ubuntu> :-)
[06:27] <johnathana> ubuntu: you have two hd?
[06:27] <ubuntu> yes
[06:27] <johnathana> type dmesg | grep hda
[06:27] <johnathana> and tell me what you get
[06:28] <ubuntu> get that:
[06:28] <ubuntu> [4294690.912000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
[06:28] <ubuntu> [4294691.584000]  hda: SAMSUNG DVD R/RW SH-W08A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[06:28] <ubuntu> [4294695.289000]  hda: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[06:28] <johnathana> ubuntu: your hd is SATA
[06:29] <johnathana> ?
[06:29] <ubuntu> to be honest, i don't now :-(
[06:29] <johnathana> ubuntu: type dmesg | grep sda
[06:30] <johnathana> and tell me
[06:30] <_lucas> Hi. How do I install the flash plugin in konqueror?
[06:31] <ubuntu> johnathana, nothing happens
[06:31] <johnathana> ubuntu: type dmesg | grep ide1 and tell me
[06:32] <ubuntu> [4294690.912000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
[06:32] <ubuntu> [4294692.363000]  Probing IDE interface ide1...
[06:32] <ubuntu> [4294692.933000]  ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
[06:32] <ubuntu> is it ide then?
[06:33] <HymnToLife> !tell ubuntu about pastebin
[06:33] <johnathana> ubuntu: no, last command :)   type  dmesg | grep hd  and tell me
[06:34] <ubuntu> it's ok to put it in the chat?
[06:34] <_lucas> Hello, any idea on how to install flash in konqueror?
[06:34] <johnathana> ubuntu: yes
[06:36] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10128 here
[06:36] <johnathana> ubuntu: ok I see it
[06:37] <HymnToLife> !tell _lucas about flash
[06:37] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/
[06:38] <_lucas> cheers HymnToLife
[06:38] <ubuntu> what is my hd now? sata?
[06:39] <johnathana> ubuntu: it's parallel ata
[06:39] <johnathana> PATA
[06:39] <ubuntu> ok
[06:40] <ubuntu> so typed it in
[06:40] <johnathana> ubuntu: type  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/   and tell me about error
[06:40] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /media/ busy
[06:40] <ubuntu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd1 is mounted on /media
[06:41] <Tompok> ubuntu, cd /media then type ls
[06:41] <Tompok> is anything there?
[06:41] <marseillai> ubijtsa: fuser -mauv /dev/hdd1
[06:41] <johnathana> ubuntu: type mount and tell me
[06:41] <ubuntu> ok
[06:42] <ubuntu> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)
[06:42] <ubuntu> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[06:42] <ubuntu> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[06:42] <ubuntu> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[06:42] <ubuntu> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[06:42] <ubuntu> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[06:42] <ubuntu> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[06:42] <ubuntu> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[06:42] <ubuntu> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[06:42] <ubuntu> /dev/hdd1 on /media type ntfs (rw)
[06:42] <HymnToLife> second time
[06:43] <HymnToLife> !tell ubuntu about pastebin
[06:43] <johnathana> ubuntu: /dev/hdd1 on /media type ntfs (rw)
[06:43] <ubuntu> i know hymntolife
[06:43] <Tompok> ubuntu, that drive is already mounted
[06:43] <robotgeek> ubuntu: can you please use the pastebin if you are pasting anything over 2 lines
[06:44] <ubuntu> ok
[06:44] <ubuntu> johnathana: should i type "/dev/hdd1 on /media type ntfs (rw)"?
[06:44] <Tompok> wtf
[06:44] <Tompok> ubuntu, what are you tying to do exactly?
[06:44] <ubuntu> mount my disc
[06:44] <Tompok> just access that drive?
[06:44] <Tompok> its mounted!
[06:44] <ubuntu> but they are not mounted
[06:45] <Tompok> yes it is
[06:45] <ubuntu> hmm
[06:45] <ubuntu> so where?
[06:45] <Tompok> do this
[06:45] <johnathana> ubuntu: your hd is mounted !!!!!!
[06:45] <Tompok> cd /media
[06:45] <Tompok> and then type ls
[06:46] <_lucas> cu
[06:46] <ubuntu> get this: bash: cd: /media: Permission denied
[06:46] <Tompok> wtf
[06:46] <Tompok> ok
[06:46] <ubuntu> johnathana: where can i access it ??
[06:46] <Tompok> ubuntu
[06:46] <Tompok> just do this
[06:47] <Tompok> umount /dev/hdd1
[06:47] <Tompok> tell me when you've done that
[06:47] <johnathana> ubuntu: Tompok said you
[06:47] <chx> i have http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/600026 this for sources.list and apt does not do upgrade for me
[06:47] <johnathana> ubuntu: cd /media ; ls
[06:47] <chx> for quite a long time i have no upgrades :( despite update run fine
[06:48] <Tompok> johnathana, he tried that it said access denied, probably because /media isnt where it should be mounted to
[06:48] <Tompok> i might be wrong
[06:48] <ubuntu> johnatana: i get this when typing cd /media: bash: cd: /media: Permission denied
[06:48] <chx> for eg. i have 2.67ubuntu19 and i think it should be 2.67ubuntu20
[06:48] <Tompok> ubuntu, umount /dev/hdd1
[06:49] <ubuntu> ok
[06:49] <ubuntu> with sudo
[06:49] <Tompok> yes
[06:49] <ubuntu> done
[06:49] <Tompok> no errors?
[06:49] <ubuntu> no
[06:49] <Tompok> alright
[06:49] <Tompok> as a normal user do this mkdir /ntfs
[06:49] <leafw> did anyone ever got an external display to work in a laptop running breezy?
[06:50] <ubuntu> tompok: just letting you know: i just want to mount it read-only,. as i'm with the live-cd ;-)
[06:50] <Tompok> ....
[06:50] <johnathana> ubuntu: for last time
[06:50] <bipolar> anyone know any kde tools for keeping an encryped list of passwords and/or files? I'm looking for something simple to use without getting into loopback devices and such :)
[06:50] <ubuntu> nothing
[06:50] <Tompok> nothing what?
[06:50] <ubuntu> done it with sudo
[06:50] <Tompok> did you do mkdir /ntfs
[06:51] <ubuntu> ok?
[06:51] <bipolar> leafw: yep. and dapper. ati chipset?
[06:51] <Tompok> omg
[06:51] <Tompok> just answer my question
[06:51] <leafw> bipolar: powerpc, this is a powerbook
[06:51] <Tompok> did you do "mkdir /ntfs" as a normal user?
[06:51] <bipolar> leafw: hmmm.... mines a dell. can't comment on the powerbook. :\
[06:51] <johnathana> ubuntu: listen to me for a while  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media
[06:51] <leafw> bipolar: so what is the logic of the whole thing, do I have to setup the display in the xorg.conf, or there are auto tools?
[06:51] <ubuntu> tompol: mkdir: cannot create directory `/ntfs': Permission denied
[06:52] <leafw> bipolar: does one need to reboot the computer, or just plug and play?
[06:52] <johnathana> ubuntu: then sudo cd /media ; ls
[06:52] <Tompok> oh i forgot your using the livecd
[06:52] <Tompok> nvm
[06:52] <bipolar> leafw: depends on how you want to do it. You can set up dual head (major PITA) or you can just switch to the external monitor and shut the screen off. X should just work then.
[06:52] <leafw> bipolar: I need the dual head
[06:53] <Tompok> johnathana, he already had it mounted before and couldnt read it
[06:53] <ubuntu> johnatana: i get this:
[06:53] <leafw> bipolar: the point of the setup is to "enlarge" my screen, so I don't want a copy, but extra screen space
[06:53] <ubuntu> sudo: cd: command not found
[06:53] <ubuntu> Bilder  Desktop  Dokumente  Downloads  Musik  share
[06:53] <Tompok> k so its mounted...
[06:53] <johnathana> ubuntu: then  sudo ls /media
[06:54] <bipolar> leafw: ok then. the only thing I can tell you is google for "dual head" and the model of your laptop. I'm working from my dell 600m right now with that setup, but I can't help with your's :\
[06:54] <leafw> ok bipolar, thanks
[06:54] <ubuntu> johnathana: it's listing it's content! :-D
[06:54] <Tompok> no crap
[06:54] <bipolar> leafw: the specific technology you are going to be useing is called 'xinerama' so adding that to the google search might help.
[06:54] <johnathana> ubuntu: amen
[06:55] <bipolar> leafw: note that if you are going to use ATI's binary drivers, xinerama is not what to use. I don't know if they make PPC drivers though.
[06:55] <leafw> bipolar: I have just found a webpage that suggests a setup, including xinerama
[06:55] <leafw> we'll see!
[06:55] <ubuntu> johnathana: where can i access it then?
[06:55] <leafw> http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/
[06:55] <ubuntu> for example to play music
[06:56] <johnathana> ubuntu: always remember that your ntfs partition is hdd1
[06:56] <Tompok> the path is /media
[06:56] <ziza> !hibernate
[06:56] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ziza
[06:56] <bipolar> leafw: cool. good luck! multihead is one of the weak points when it comes to X. It's almost always possible, but a PITA to get working.
[06:57] <johnathana> ubuntu: you are using kde?
[06:57] <ubuntu> ok, thanks, but when i type /media
[06:57] <ubuntu> in konqueror -> no enough rights to acces
[06:57] <ubuntu> johnathana: yes
[06:58] <Tompok> ubuntu sudo chmod 777 /media
[06:58] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo konqueror /media
[06:58] <johnathana> Tompok: I can handle this
[06:59] <Tompok> why would he want to run konq under high privlege?
[06:59] <Tompok> thats a pain in the arse
[06:59] <johnathana> Tompok: he is using live cd
[06:59] <johnathana> Tompok: I just show a way
[06:59] <Tompok> Ya he can still chmod a directory so you he can just open up his media player and add all his music to his playlist
[07:00] <johnathana> Tompok: chmod 7777 in a read only partition don't work
[07:00] <ubuntu> johnatana: i typed it
[07:00] <Tompok> then chown it
[07:00] <johnathana> ubuntu: and?
[07:01] <chx> the other day I found Kompose. Other Mac OS X goodness ported to KDE? :)
[07:01] <ubuntu> empt konqueor wwindow opened
[07:01] <leafw> chx: baghira
[07:01] <leafw> chx: gives you the same window decorations and buttons.
[07:02] <Tompok> johnathana, have fun "helping" jim :)
[07:02] <chx> leafw: thanks. and the nice taskbar or whatever Mac OS X calls it?
[07:02] <johnathana> ubuntu: type in the url  /media
[07:02] <leafw> the "dock" ?
[07:02] <leafw> chx: you can configure the kde kicker to look like it, to some extent
[07:02] <chx> leafw: probably yes
[07:02] <ubuntu> johnathana: "protocol is not supported"
[07:02] <Tompok> chx, ksmoothdock, kxdocker
[07:02] <leafw> see the baghira website in "Advanced"
[07:03] <Tompok> there is a bunch of docks
[07:03] <chx> leafw: with that icons that change their size on mouseover?
[07:03] <leafw> chx: never heard of that
[07:03] <Tompok> chx, install ksmoothdocker or kxdocker
[07:03] <Tompok> ops
[07:03] <Tompok> ksmoothdock
[07:03] <johnathana> ubuntu: then file:///media/
[07:04] <ubuntu> same thing
[07:04] <chx> Tompok: is there a page which contains all these Mac OS X alike (kompose, baghira, dockers etc) stuff?
[07:04] <johnathana> ubuntu: then only /
[07:04] <Tompok> chx, um not specifically, try kde-look.org
[07:05] <ubuntu> johnatana when i opened the konqueror window i received an error:
[07:05] <mijndert> ugh, what does the output of 'cat /proc/uptime' mean? the numbers that is
[07:05] <ubuntu> MIME-Typ not found
[07:05] <Tompok> heh
[07:05] <johnathana> ubuntu: press F9
[07:06] <johnathana> ubuntu: you 'll see the root tree in the left
[07:06] <chx> Tompok: you know, ksmoothdock is on kde-apps and baghira is on kde-looks and kompose is tucked away in other
[07:06] <ubuntu> johnathana: nothing happenswhen pressing F9
[07:06] <Tompok> chx, ya there isn't just one site that I know of that contains the osx stuff
[07:06] <johnathana> ubuntu: in the konqueror window
[07:08] <ubuntu> johnathana: in the normal konqueror windows the root tree appears but not in the one opened with "sudo konqueror /media"
[07:08] <AnObfuscator> Kubuntu 5.10 is the 2.6.12 kernel, right?
[07:08] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo konqueror
[07:08] <johnathana> ubuntu: then try again
[07:09] <ubuntu> same error
[07:09] <ubuntu> "mime type not ofund..."
[07:09] <ubuntu> no tree
[07:09] <chx> Tompok: let's assume I would like ot help in having one
[07:10] <johnathana> ubuntu: even if you type / as url
[07:10] <Tompok> having one of what?
[07:10] <ubuntu> johnathana: when opening sudo konqueror i get this error
[07:10] <ubuntu> every time
[07:10] <johnathana> ubuntu: ok
[07:10] <Tompok> ubuntu hit alt+f2 and type kdesu konqueror
[07:11] <chx> Tompok: having a "make KDE like Mac OS X"
[07:11] <Tompok> chx, a website?
[07:11] <ubuntu> johnathana: it did work
[07:12] <ubuntu> now
[07:12] <ubuntu> i retried
[07:12] <chx> Tompok: aye
[07:12] <johnathana> ubuntu: Thank Tompok
[07:12] <ubuntu> no  i mean with sudo konqueror
[07:12] <ubuntu> but it also worked with the hint of tompok
[07:12] <ubuntu> thanks tompok ;-)
[07:12] <johnathana> ubuntu: then thank me ;)
[07:13] <ubuntu> thanks both
[07:13] <ubuntu> so what now
[07:13] <ubuntu> ok
[07:13] <ubuntu> working now
[07:13] <ubuntu> typed media
[07:13] <ubuntu> and it opened
[07:13] <ubuntu> THANKS jonathana!
[07:13] <johnathana> ubuntu: have fun bye
[07:13] <ubuntu> hey
[07:13] <ubuntu> what are the steps for next time?
[07:14] <ubuntu>  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/ and then sudo konqueror?
[07:14] <_marco> cuniu
[07:14] <johnathana> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /media/ -o umask=022
[07:15] <ubuntu> and then it shpuld work without sudo konqueror?
[07:15] <johnathana> ubuntu: then open konqueror as normal user and should work
[07:15] <ubuntu> ok nice!
[07:15] <ubuntu> what's unmask for?
[07:16] <johnathana> ubuntu: do you know anything about permissions?
[07:16] <ubuntu> nope :-)
[07:17] <johnathana> ubuntu: then you have to find.... ;)
[07:17] <ubuntu> ok i understand i'll let you alone now
[07:17] <ubuntu> thanks anyway
[07:17] <mijndert> You can put it in your FSTAB of you like, read UbuntuGuide for instructions on that :)
[07:18] <Tompok> mijndert, hes on a livecd
[07:18] <mijndert> Oh I didn't know. Sorry :)
[07:18] <Tompok> np
[07:18] <mijndert> just got back home heh
[07:18] <ubuntu> ok, i will test kubuntu and maybe install, then i will comeback to flood the channel
[07:18] <ubuntu> :-)
[07:18] <ubuntu> no i will google and read FAQs first
[07:19] <mijndert> lol good
[07:32] <StyXman> hi all
[07:33] <heinkel_111> hi :)
[07:33] <StyXman> I'm having problems printing in a smb-shared printer. I can use smbclient to reach it, it accepts my passwd, I can consult the queue, but I can't make cups send a job to it. trying the test page I get a niced cups eating all the free cpu that there is.
[07:36] <thompa> bipolar: hi!
[07:37] <thompa> i ran some more simple tests
[07:37] <bipolar> thompa: hi
[07:38] <thompa> i tried a live cd of a deb distro and wired, pages in konqeror were coming up in 5 secs
[07:38] <bipolar> thompa: interesting.
[07:38] <thompa> the other 3 computers are also same speed, each running different linuxes
[07:38] <bipolar> thompa: so it's a config issue or a bug in something.
[07:38] <thompa> im running dapper flight 5 on the one in question
[07:39] <thompa> it does boot faster though
[07:39] <bipolar> thompa: I really don't know where to start, and right now I'm trying really hard to wrap my head around LDAP, Kerberos, and how they work together. I'm having a hell of a time of it.
[07:40] <thompa> a web page will hesitate for 10 seconds, start to load and halt at 66%, then again it sticks at 98%
[07:40] <bipolar> I'm on my 2nd can of Red Bull and very slowly making progress. Hope I get it before I run out of this 4 pack. :P
[07:40] <thompa> get some herbal tee dude!
[07:41] <thompa> 4 of those will kill you
[07:41] <bipolar> thompa: that sounds like an IP issue. Somthing is making the network lag. but it's only your box. bah!
[07:41] <bipolar> thompa: I've done 6.... still here. :)
[07:41] <bipolar> thompa: i've also done 4 quad shot expressos in a row.
[07:42] <bipolar> thompa: that was wild. I got a lot done, but basicly collapsed after 4 hours.
[07:42] <thompa> i usually do about 3 cups a day coffee
[07:43] <thompa> im going to try a different window manager, maybe xfce, but i know its the same
[07:45] <belo> hi
[07:45] <heinkel_111> guys & gals...where do i find the best guide to /etc/fstab syntax, permissions, filesystems etc?
[07:45] <heinkel_111> ./etc/fstab editing is my chore today
[07:45] <belo> sorry, but do u guys have some experience with PPC kubuntu?
[07:45] <leafw> bipolar: it WORKS! I have an extended desktop into the external monitor! AHHHH! MAGIC!
[07:46] <leafw> bipolar: the website http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ proved most useful (I have a powerbook), but it's not necessary to compile or download any extra stuff.
[07:46] <bipolar> leafw: wow... thats a hell of a lot quicker then I got it. maybe mine is just a dificult model.
[07:47] <leafw> bipolar: well, this one had DVI output, but apparently the driver handles it (I didn't have to do anything about it)
[07:47] <bipolar> leafw: I needed the closed source ati drivers too...
[07:47] <leafw> bipolar: I was lucky then, no drivers needed other than the defaults.
[07:47] <bipolar> leafw: awesome. 'gratz!
[07:47] <leafw> :)
[07:48] <leafw> and this is Xorg 6.8, which still is not as polished in this respect as 7.0
[07:48] <leafw> I can't wait for Dapper, there are some many tiny glitches that need fixing
[07:48] <belo> hello any expirience with PPC ubuntu, I cant mount LiveCD...
[07:48] <leafw> for example, I have the extra desktop on top of the laptop's; if I put it on the side, the laptop's screen scrolls, which is annoying (different vertical lenghts)
[07:49] <leafw> belo: I run breezy-ppc
[07:51] <belo> leafw and do u know how to boot it
[07:51] <belo> leafw: just restart the computer with mounted DVD (yeah and its a combined DVD)
[07:52] <belo> leafw: ?
[07:52] <leafw> yes
[07:52] <leafw> well, I always used a live CD, not a live DVD (does it exist?)
[07:52] <belo> leafw: mmnt
[07:52] <leafw> belo: just restart with the liveCD in. Make sure it's the ppc live CD !
[07:53] <belo> leafw: Both live (runs off the CD) and install versions are available. The DVDs are combined live and install.
[07:53] <belo> leafw: ...,but I've done that...computer pulled that DVD out and booted the system normally
[07:54] <leafw> never heard, and I've never used them. The Breezy live CD works very well in every ppc I've tried (a powerbook, an ibook, and an old newworld powermac)
[07:54] <leafw> belo: maybe you need to reboot and hold the C key to boot from the CD
[07:54] <leafw> depends on your Firmware configuration.
[07:54] <heinkel_111> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1  <----means i should patch my kubuntu installation?
[07:55] <belo> leafw: where can I setup OpenFirmware?? or just start that boot sequence manually
[07:55] <frank_> heinkel_111: just do an update with adept
[07:55] <belo> leafw: because holding C dont work either
[07:55] <leafw> belo: openfirware is not very easy to learn, I would just boot holding the C key.
[07:55] <heinkel_111> frank_: the update button, that's all?
[07:55] <leafw> if it's a DVD maybe it's different? Lookup the booting magic keys on google
[07:56] <belo> leafw: I'll try again
[07:56] <belo> leafw: thanx
[07:56] <belo> :-)
[07:56] <leafw> you're welcome
[07:56] <heinkel_111> frank_: ?
[07:56] <frank_> heinkel_111: fetch updates, full upgrade, commit
[07:56] <heinkel_111> :)
[07:56] <heinkel_111> thank you very much!
[07:57] <frank_> heinkel_111: no problem
[07:59] <frank_> heinkel_111: If you never did this, maybe you have a bunch of packages to upgrade
[07:59] <heinkel_111> i just saw that ;)
[08:00] <frank_> heinkel_111: in the next version of kubuntu there will be an icon that alerts of security updates
[08:00] <heinkel_111> as an official n00b I am amazed that this is a lot smoother than a windows upgrade :P
[08:01] <frank_> heinkel_111: I wouldn't want to only have a modem connection though ;)
[08:01] <heinkel_111> no problem..i have 7Mbit/s download
[08:02] <frank_> heinkel_111: I have something in that range too. It's pretty amazing
[08:02] <frank_> 6.1 Mbit/s I think
[08:03] <clem_yeats> hi there
[08:03] <clem_yeats> simple question...
[08:03] <clem_yeats> how can I follow the builds of kubuntu ?
[08:03] <clem_yeats> I mean ... some kind of Unstable branch ?? :)
[08:04] <frank_> clem_yeats: there is one but
[08:04] <frank_> !dapper
[08:04] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:04] <frank_> clem_yeats: but it can be very unstable
[08:05] <clem_yeats> you don't recommend it ?
[08:05] <clem_yeats> I'm quite happy with breezy... I was just being curious.
[08:05] <clem_yeats> little things like firefox 1.07--> 1.5.. and all
[08:05] <frank_> clem_yeats: probably more than debian unstable. I wouldn't recommend it for daily use
[08:06] <clem_yeats> ok
[08:06] <frank_> !ff1.5
[08:06] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:06] <frank_> clem_yeats: and dapper will be released in one month
[08:06] <clem_yeats> yes.
[08:06] <clem_yeats> ok, you convinced me.
[08:06] <clem_yeats> patience is a vertue.
[08:06] <clem_yeats> :)
[08:07] <clem_yeats> thanks for your answers.
[08:07] <frank_> clem_yeats: you can try dapper if you have an extra partition to install it to or with vmware or something like that
[08:07] <clem_yeats> when dapper is released, can I just point to it using sources.list and upate like that ?
[08:07] <frank_> clem_yeats: yep
[08:07] <clem_yeats> ok.
[08:08] <clem_yeats> and there's no kind of "testing" between breezy and dapper is there ?
[08:08] <frank_> clem_yeats: no. only breezy and dapper (maybe equivalent to experimental)
[08:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: don't you think it could be interesting making a screenshots and post it to kde-look ?
[08:09] <Riddell> Tonio_: of what?
[08:09] <frank_> clem_yeats: you can install kde 3.5.1 in breezy if you want though
[08:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: could be informative to get a real user feedback
[08:09] <clem_yeats> oh yes.. I did that.
[08:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: of the desktop design
[08:09] <Riddell> sure, please do :)
[08:09] <Tonio_> okay ;)
[08:09] <tsdgeos> Riddell: today i noticed 3.5.1 packages for breezy make konqy identify as dapper ;-)
[08:10] <Riddell> tsdgeos: hmm, interesting
[08:10] <frank_> tsdgeos: that's true, I just checked
[08:11] <clem_yeats> I though it was weird that kde3.5.1 was put on breezy.. after it was released....
[08:12] <clem_yeats> but I'm glad at the same time though :) I love it :)
[08:12] <frank_> clem_yeats: it's not official I think. it's a backport basically
[08:12] <Bennnner> hi all, i was with ubuntu, i got it at 1024x768 by tricking with the xorg.conf file, i installed kubuntu, i cant get it in 1024x768... and now i cant edit the file with kate with the sudo command, tells me "ERROR: Commnucation problem with kate, it probably crashed"
[08:13] <frank_> Bennnner: you can't open kate with sudo
[08:13] <frank_> Bennnner: use  kdesu kate instead.   kdesu opens kde programs as root. You'll probably also have to kill the crashed kate process you have now
[08:14] <Bennnner> good to know!! what is the command line for kill
[08:15] <frank_> kill pid
[08:15] <frank_> killall kate should do it too
[08:16] <vikke> hi, i have a very irritating konqueror problem: when i open any konqueror window an error message display: Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.
[08:16] <frank_> vikke: when did that starts?
[08:18] <vikke> do you mean when the problem started to show up?
[08:18] <frank_> vikke: yeah
[08:19] <vikke> im not sure, but awhile ago my konqueror stopped working, so i reinstalled it. I think its around then it started
[08:20] <frank_> vikke: stopped working? that's strange. did you only install from ubuntu repositories?
[08:20] <Bennnner> frank, when i have done changes to xorg.conf..  should i restart the cpu or ctrl-alt-bspace is enough
[08:20] <frank_> Bennnner: ctrl-alt-backspace is aenough
[08:21] <frank_> vikke: I think deleting   ~/.kde  would might fix it but you would also lose all of your kde settings
[08:22] <vikke> ill check it out, thanks :)
[08:23] <Bennnner> thanks frank, i am now able to correctly edit the file... but even if i write 1024x768 kne dont see that resolution... somes are changing but doesnt add this one
[08:23] <elixir> hello
[08:24] <cycus_zwisus> vikke, don't delete .kde!!!!!!!!
[08:24] <frank_> Bennnner: what is the highest resolution you have available
[08:24] <elixir> does anyone have Maya7.0 installed and working properly?
[08:24] <Bennnner> 800x600
[08:25] <cycus_zwisus> just copy it somewhere else
[08:25] <frank_> Bennnner: I'm not sure.
[08:25] <frank_> !tell Bennnner about fixres
[08:26] <elixir> Maya7.0  ??? anyone
[08:26] <clem_yeats> I'm trying easykubuntu at the moment... it's a bit spooky.. I chose all options :)
[08:27] <clem_yeats> Maya as in the 3D soft ?? (also the name of my daughter) or the HTML viewer/editor...
[08:27] <elixir> Yes Clem
[08:27] <elixir> I have installed it but I can't get it to run
[08:27] <clem_yeats> it costs a fortune doesn't it ? Did they go open-source ?
[08:28] <clem_yeats> I didn't know it ran under linux.
[08:28] <elixir> lol,,, no. It does cost a fortune
[08:28] <Tonio_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36409
[08:28] <Tonio_> feedback required !
[08:28] <clem_yeats> is it a linux version or are you trying to run it through wine, crossover.. etc. ?
[08:28] <elixir> Yes it runs on linux.  I think it was originally unix based before pc's became capable of running it
[08:29] <clem_yeats> oh ok..
[08:29] <elixir> I have linux version
[08:29] <clem_yeats> I've heard a lot of good things about it. I never used it though.
[08:29] <elixir> I think since I am so new to linux that I might just be making a general mistake
[08:30] <clem_yeats> what does it say ?
[08:30] <tsdgeos> elixir: if you don't tell anything more it's difficult anyone can help you
[08:30] <elixir> I installed it as per the installation guide (very poor I might add) but ...
[08:30] <elixir> it shows up as installed in adept
[08:31] <elixir> it is in the usr/aw/maya7.0/bin folder
[08:31] <Bennnner> frank: THANKS you alot!, i'm now in 1024x768!! YES!
[08:31] <Tompok> is kubuntu dapper f5 goign to be released today by any chance?
[08:31] <elixir> I see what looks to be the executible (maya.bin)
[08:32] <elixir> but I click it and it has no response
[08:32] <frank_> Bennnner: you and the wiki did it, not me ;)
[08:32] <elixir> I right click it and the permissions are set to root
[08:32] <tsdgeos> elixir: run it from command line
[08:32] <tsdgeos> and see if it says something
[08:32] <clem_yeats> in a console elixir... chmod a+rx ./maya.bin
[08:32] <arrinmurr> Tonio_: so that's the default theme/look in dapper?
[08:32] <clem_yeats> and ./maya.bin
[08:33] <Tonio_> arrinmurr: it is the actual
[08:33] <Tonio_> I personnaly dislike and we want to get global opinion on this
[08:33] <Tonio_> arrinmurr: what's your feeling ?
[08:33] <Tonio_> arrinmurr: it can of course change before release depending the users idea
[08:34] <arrinmurr> Tonio_: make the panel tiny and it will look much better ;)
[08:34] <clem_yeats> tonio_ : it's not too bad. The background picture is not great though..
[08:36] <arrinmurr> yeah, i think the background in breezy was quite nice
[08:36] <elixir> Clem...  I tried that and it said no such file or directory
[08:37] <clem_yeats> elixir.. you're not in the right directory then.
[08:37] <clem_yeats> you need to cd first..
[08:37] <clem_yeats> or to use absolute path..
[08:38] <clem_yeats> type /usr/aw/maya7.0/bin/maya.bin
[08:38] <elixir> ok I did that and it said operation not permitted
[08:38] <clem_yeats> ok
[08:38] <clem_yeats> type sudo /usr/aw/maya7.0/bin/maya.bin
[08:41] <elixir> cannot open shared object file
[08:41] <slow-motion_> re
[08:42] <tsdgeos> elixir: which one?
[08:43] <elixir> ok... I am in the directory in Konsole, and I can see the file(dir) if I type sudo maya.bin it says command not found
[08:43] <tsdgeos> because it is
[08:43] <tsdgeos> sudo ./maya.bin
[08:43] <clem_yeats> . is not in the PATH by default...
[08:44] <elixir> .. error while opening shared librabry
[08:44] <tsdgeos> elixir: WHICH library
[08:44] <elixir> sorry I am a total noob
[08:44] <elixir> oh sorry Clem... libMaya.so
[08:44] <tsdgeos> do a find -iname libMaya*
[08:45] <clem_yeats> oh... does this need to be put in the ldconfig dir ?
[08:45] <clem_yeats> or locate ...
[08:46] <tsdgeos> locate will only work if he as run updatedb recently
[08:46] <clem_yeats> it's a pity to have to all of that ... when Kubuntu uses such a great package management such as deb/apt..
[08:46] <clem_yeats> yes.
[08:46] <Blissex> clem_yeats: you mean RPM/Yum :-)
[08:46] <leafw> anyone, the GCC 4.1 for breezy? I need the gcj to work properly ... haven't heard of the package being released at all for kubuntu!
[08:47] <clem_yeats> do I ????
[08:47] <tsdgeos> nah
[08:47] <clem_yeats> lol !!!
[08:47] <clem_yeats> you got me :)
[08:47] <tsdgeos> elixir: did you find where is libMaya.so located?
[08:48] <elixir> yes.  usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/
[08:48] <tsdgeos> elixir: do
[08:48] <clem_yeats> tsdgeos : do you intend to make him add it to ldconfig.so.conf ?
[08:48] <tsdgeos> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/ sudo ./maya.bin
[08:49] <tsdgeos> clem_yeats: no need, you can use LD_LIBRARY_PATH ;-
[08:49] <clem_yeats> oh ok..
[08:49] <elixir> do I type that in the main maya7.0/bin directory?
[08:49] <clem_yeats> yes
[08:51] <Dasnipa`> man... i wish i had maya lol
[08:51] <elixir> ok, so I got the same error while loading the shared libraries : libMaya.so
[08:51] <tsdgeos> did you?
[08:52] <tsdgeos> strange
[08:52] <tsdgeos> that should have worked
[08:52] <clem_yeats> did you miss a ; between the LD_... and sudo ..
[08:52] <tsdgeos> or at least give you a different error :D
[08:52] <tsdgeos> clem_yeats: no no, no ; is needed
[08:52] <clem_yeats> ok
[08:52] <tsdgeos> maybe the sudo is resetting the vars
[08:52] <elixir> cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[08:52] <tsdgeos> elixir:
[08:52] <tsdgeos> can you do
[08:53] <tsdgeos> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/ ldd ./maya.bin
[08:53] <tsdgeos> and see how many not found library references the maya binary has?
[08:54] <elixir> it found them all
[08:54] <tsdgeos> then maybe sudo is resetting the bars
[08:54] <tsdgeos> bars -> vars :D
[08:54] <tsdgeos> try just
[08:54] <tsdgeos> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/ ./maya.bin
[08:54] <_redondos> hi
[08:55] <_redondos> I have a question
[08:55] <tsdgeos> hi
[08:55] <tsdgeos> ask it
[08:55] <_redondos> ok
[08:55] <_redondos> I installed dapper drake
[08:55] <_redondos> 4
[08:56] <_redondos> the devel version
[08:56] <_redondos> to see how it was going on
[08:56] <_redondos> and I cant play avi files and mp3...
[08:56] <elixir> ok... some success
[08:56] <raphink-pbook> please take a time to get a look at http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36409 and vote
[08:56] <elixir> Error: default temp directory /usr/tmp does not have write permissions.
[08:57] <_redondos> ???
[08:57] <clem_yeats> _redondos : you need to get non-free codecs for this..
[08:57] <tsdgeos> elixir: chmod 777 /usr/tmp
[08:57] <tsdgeos> or even mkdir if it does not exist
[08:57] <_redondos> yes.. but... this version comes with xine engine...
[08:57] <_redondos> in hoary xine engine was perfect
[08:57] <elixir> type that in the main /bin directory?
[08:58] <clem_yeats> _redondos : but you can't expect ubuntu to come with mp3 and divx support...
[08:58] <clem_yeats> _redondos : you'll always need to add it yourself.
[08:58] <tsdgeos> elixir: wherever, the first / says you are going to do it in a non relative way
[08:58] <_redondos> ok
[08:58] <clem_yeats> _redondos : unless you choose to use stuff like Mepis, Linspire, or Microsoft Windows.
[08:58] <_redondos> but what are the packages ??
[08:58] <_redondos> clear
[08:58] <elixir> ok...  no such file
[08:59] <elixir> or dir
[08:59] <clem_yeats> _redondos : have a look on the ubuntu wiki for unsupported formats
[08:59] <_redondos> mmm...
[08:59] <_redondos> mad ?
[08:59] <tsdgeos> with the chmod? then create the dir with mkdir
[08:59] <_redondos> ok
[08:59] <clem_yeats> _redondos : they're easy to install once you find the proper wiki page.
[08:59] <_redondos> thanks
[08:59] <_redondos> ok
[08:59] <clem_yeats> I think it's called "restricted formats"
[08:59] <Snake__> !mp3
[08:59] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:59] <Snake__> Thats the page
[08:59] <clem_yeats> else, you can use easy ubuntu, and easy kubuntu..
[09:00] <clem_yeats> but they're based on breezy.
[09:00] <elixir> what is the command to make dir??  is it mkdir tmp?
[09:00] <Snake__> _redondos: theres your page
[09:00] <_redondos> I didn't heard about that...
[09:00] <_redondos> yeah
[09:00] <tsdgeos> elixir: mkdir /usr/tmp
[09:00] <_redondos> easy kubuntu..
[09:00] <Snake__> elixir: mkdir /path/to/what/dir/here
[09:00] <_redondos> all ilegal jajaja
[09:00] <tsdgeos> maybe with sudo as you probably don't have enough privilegies
[09:00] <clem_yeats> I've just tried easy kubuntu.. didn't find it great.. (it changed my amarok 1.3.8 to 1.3.5 :)).
[09:01] <elixir> sorry for being totally lame about this
[09:01] <clem_yeats> it's probably cool on a fresh install..
[09:01] <Snake__> clem_yeats: thats what its made for
[09:01] <clem_yeats> lame :) lol.. the pun with _redondos's mp3 problem "!!!
[09:02] <tsdgeos> elixir: no prob, just try to understand what you are doing, not just type it and forget
[09:02] <_redondos> jej
[09:02] <elixir> thanks  :)
[09:03] <elixir> Error: default temp directory /usr/tmp does not have write permissions.
[09:03] <elixir> Ok.  it says Error: default temp directory /usr/tmp does not have write permissions.
[09:03] <tsdgeos> elixir: ok, now do the chmod i told you
[09:03] <tsdgeos> chmod 777 /usr/tmp
[09:03] <clem_yeats> sudo chmod 777 /usr/tmp
[09:03] <tsdgeos> that gives write read and execute perimsions to that dir to eveyone
[09:03] <tsdgeos> yeah sudo
[09:05] <raphink-pbook> ok seems nobody here is interested in kubuntu's default look. You'll get an ugly one then ;)
[09:05] <Snake__> raphink-pbook: Huh
[09:05] <tsdgeos> raphink-pbook: thanks ;-)
[09:05] <Snake__> Ehat
[09:05] <Snake__> What**
[09:05] <raphink-pbook> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36409 please give your opinion
[09:05] <Snake__> I cant stand teh ugly. whatcha doin
[09:05] <elixir> ok.  I got it to run, but I have to sort out my license (but that is a whole different shototing match)
[09:05] <raphink-pbook> vote and post comments, please
[09:05] <Snake__> Will do
[09:06] <Snake__> :)
[09:06] <elixir> will I have to run it from command line everytime
[09:06] <tsdgeos> elixir: you can do a little script
[09:06] <tsdgeos> and add that text i told you on it
[09:06] <tsdgeos> and then double click on the script
[09:06] <tsdgeos> but that is a bit "difficult"
[09:06] <Snake__> raphink-pbook: Who do we have to complain to to get the KDE bar and what not customized
[09:06] <tsdgeos> ask somebody to help you
[09:07] <tsdgeos> bye!
[09:07] <raphink-pbook> Snake__: put your comments there, we'll read them
[09:07] <Snake__> raphink-pbook: alright
[09:07] <raphink-pbook> Snake__: you can propose your ideas
[09:07] <Snake__> raphink-pbook: I have no ideas aside from CHANGE IT and dont use the human colors
[09:08] <raphink-pbook> we don't use the human colors in kubuntu
[09:08] <Snake__> I noticed, thats one of the reasons I went with it ;)
[09:08] <JakubS> that's good, brown looks shitty
[09:08] <Snake__> JakubS: watch the language
[09:09] <JakubS> let me rephrase then: brown looks ******
[09:09] <Snake__> lol
[09:09] <Snake__> :)
[09:09] <clem_yeats> blue is so common though...
[09:09] <clem_yeats> could kubuntu experience some turquoise or something original ?
[09:09] <Snake__> clem_yeats: Yes, but blue is also welcoming
[09:10] <Snake__> clem_yeats: Blue is a color of acceptance, and purity
[09:10] <Snake__> Hence why so many waterbottles use it ;)
[09:10] <clem_yeats> hmm...
[09:10] <clem_yeats> :)
[09:10] <Snake__> clem_yeats: Im not just saying that as a opinion, thats the effect it has on the human brain
[09:10] <JakubS> and it is simply easy on eyes
[09:11] <JakubS> better this than make it unique and weird looking
[09:11] <clem_yeats> did you think of people who are not thinking with their brain ?
[09:11] <clem_yeats> like... me ... ?
[09:11] <Snake__> clem_yeats: were always thinking with our brains, colors do things to you subliminally
[09:11] <Snake__> You can use certain colors to set moods
[09:11] <clem_yeats> yes.. I suppose. It's a bit boring all this blue all the time though.
[09:11] <pestilence> does anybody else use matlab in kde and have problems with it stealing focus when a new plot is generated?
[09:12] <pestilence> it's really aggrivating
[09:12] <Snake__> clem_yeats: well we could make it dark green.... (the color associated with wild :P)
[09:12] <JakubS> clem_yeats: replace B and R wires in your vga<->monitor cable
[09:12] <Snake__> LOL
[09:12] <clem_yeats> seriously, the suse green, the ubuntu brown.. I really think they attract people, because they see something different.
[09:12] <pestilence> i've tried setting the "focus stealing" prevention to "extreme", it doesn' tchange anything
[09:12] <clem_yeats> LOL !! jakubs
[09:12] <JakubS> clem_yeats: this kind of "attracting" is good maybe for first 5  minutes
[09:13] <Snake__> clem_yeats: the suse green is more of a theme for to go with the whole chamilion thing
[09:13] <Snake__> I propose hot pink.
[09:13] <Snake__> :P
[09:13] <clem_yeats> I don't know.. I'm not an expert. But blue's boring. WE WANT COLORS !! :)
[09:13] <clem_yeats> lol
[09:13] <HymnToLife> hot pink is a pain for the eyes :/
[09:13] <JakubS> i propose turning monitor off to have perfect black theme :-)
[09:13] <Snake__> clem_yeats: what color do you think would look good for ubuntu
[09:14] <Snake__> HymnToLife: It was a joke :)
[09:14] <HymnToLife> I hope so lol
[09:14] <Snake__> :)
[09:14] <Snake__> HymnToLife: I had my theme as hot pink for a while, home built, it was pretty punk rock
[09:14] <Snake__> Hehe
[09:14] <clem_yeats> Snake__ I really don't have a clue.. I wish it was a bit more original. I like the way Ubuntu went brown, even though I do like it myself.. (do I make sense) ?
[09:15] <Snake__> I cannot stand the brown
[09:15] <Snake__> Perhaps red and white.... you never seen a red distro
[09:15] <Snake__> Red and not a white white, but a white with a slight tint to make it easy on the eyes
[09:15] <clem_yeats> red.. it go more with a debian or freebsd...
[09:16] <HymnToLife> or RH lol
[09:16] <Snake__> HymnToLife: Na with redhat, then they would be overplaying it :P
[09:16] <clem_yeats> kubuntu's always been blue, but maybe it could use some kind of original tint in the blue colors..
[09:16] <clem_yeats> that's why I was suggesting turquoise.
[09:17] <Snake__> HymnToLife: http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6357/sweet23dr.jpg
[09:17] <Snake__> Check that out
[09:17] <clem_yeats> waoo... :)
[09:18] <clem_yeats> that might be a bit too original though.. :)
[09:18] <Snake__> Hehe
[09:18] <Snake__> I gave it to my sis
[09:18] <HymnToLife> damn, I can hardly read the top panel's text lol
[09:18] <clem_yeats> lol
[09:19] <Snake__> Hang on ill show you a modern SS
[09:19] <Snake__> This doesnt begin to show off my system, I got autohiding taskbars running all over the place
[09:19] <elixir> blue has the shorted focal range thus it is easier on the eye.  I work in UI and Usibility. First rule
[09:20] <elixir> the eye focuses very easily on blue... for obvious reasons
[09:21] <clem_yeats> I've got blue eyes myself... handy to look at myself in the mirror.. easy on the eyes :)
[09:21] <Snake__> lol
[09:21] <elixir> lol... yes me too :)
[09:21] <clem_yeats> women find it easy to look at me two.
[09:21] <sledge> clem_yeats: Do you think people look at you in a funny way? :P
[09:21] <Snake__> I got the human eyes..
[09:21] <Snake__> :P
[09:21] <clem_yeats> lol !
[09:21] <JakubS> bah, mirror always break if i try to look into it
[09:22] <Snake__> clem_yeats: wheres my current set up, im workin on a new one tho
[09:22] <Snake__> http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8612/untitled5tr1.jpg
[09:22] <sledge> clem_yeats: I drive a blue car!
[09:22] <sledge> clem_yeats: But it ain't no chick magnet. :(
[09:22] <clem_yeats> lol
[09:22] <Snake__> clem_yeats: I have autohiding taskbars in the bottom left, right hand corners, and a hiding media panel that drops down over my system tray/clock
[09:23] <Snake__> Very usable, yet still sleek
[09:23] <clem_yeats> my whife's redhair.. I feel like I can trust her.
[09:23] <sledge> clem_yeats: HOT!
[09:24] <sledge> clem_yeats: Redheads are redhot :D
[09:24] <Snake__> oh gosh. bring it to -offtopic
[09:24] <clem_yeats> so anyway.. I did mean to say something serious : I'd like to have a button for Konsole by default, next to Konqueror and Kontact.
[09:24] <sledge> by default?
[09:24] <clem_yeats> I can't stand these distribs which make it hard to find a console.
[09:24] <clem_yeats> yes.
[09:24] <sledge> Oh, I see what you mean.
[09:25] <Snake__> clem_yeats: its always right at Alt+F2
[09:25] <Snake__> :)
[09:25] <clem_yeats> I like the idea of the console being accessible from the click:// protocol..
[09:27] <admrl> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/screenie.png
[09:27] <clem_yeats> maybe the default desk could do with some default superkaramba desklets as well....
[09:27] <Snake__> More hot pinkness!?
[09:27] <admrl> this is a screenshot of my desktop
[09:27] <Snake__> admrl: not bad
[09:27] <elixir> thanks for your help clem.  I might ask you for help in the future
[09:28] <elixir> bye for now
[09:28] <acesso05> SPEAK PORTUGUESE?
[09:28] <clem_yeats> damn... :)
[09:28] <acesso05> ANY?
[09:28] <elixir> :)
[09:28] <clem_yeats> only kidding, my pleasure.
[09:28] <Snake__> acesso05: TURN OFF THE CAPS k THANKS
[09:28] <admrl> Snake__ icons or the desktop or the icons im using
[09:28] <acesso05> ok.
[09:28] <clem_yeats> admrl: if I want my desk to become just like that.. will you help me ?
[09:28] <Snake__> acesso05: icons on the desktop
[09:29] <Snake__> oops
[09:29] <Snake__> admrl: **
[09:29] <admrl> clem_yeats
[09:29] <clem_yeats> admrl: cause.. I really do !!
[09:29] <clem_yeats> it's really nice looking
[09:29] <admrl> i will but ijust got a phone call
[09:29] <acesso05> i dont speak english.
[09:29] <acesso05> you speak portuguese?
[09:29] <Snake__> !po
[09:29] <ubotu> Snake__: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:29] <admrl> i will b right back tho
[09:29] <Snake__> Hmm
[09:29] <Snake__> acesso05: No, but there may be a channel for portuguese
[09:30] <acesso05> ok
[09:30] <acesso05> where is he?
[09:30] <Parkotron> #ubuntu-br
[09:31] <admrl> ok im back now
[09:31] <Parkotron> or #ubuntu-pt
[09:31] <Parkotron> Depending on your locale.
[09:31] <admrl> Snake__ there are alot of files on my desktop that i use alot
[09:32] <admrl> like im writing a script for an automated radio station for my school
[09:32] <admrl> and my iconset
[09:32] <admrl> i keep those on my desktop becuz it sucks having to open konqueror all the time
[09:33] <Snake__> heh
[09:33] <Snake__> admrl: CLI it!
[09:33] <Snake__> :)
[09:34] <admrl> i cant get vi to work like i had it in a different distro when i used vi so i stopped using it so i use kate
[09:34] <Snake__> heh
[09:34] <admrl> i never really got into vi i used nano before that
[09:35] <Snake__> I dont like CLI text editors personally
[09:35] <admrl> but if you use a colour scheme its amazing
[09:35] <admrl> that was bash scripting that i was doing
[09:36] <chulin> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:36] <chulin> ke onda
[09:36] <chulin> como va la cosa por aka??
[09:37] <chulin> estoy recien config. el kub
[09:37] <Snake__> !es
[09:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:37] <chulin> una pregunta para uds:
[09:37] <chulin> los repsitorios de la version 5.10 de breezy kubuntu esta actualizada??
[09:37] <chulin> ok
[09:38] <chulin> me cambio
[09:38] <chulin> sorry
[09:38] <admrl> clem_yeats: here is the wallpaper http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35826
[10:09] <jpatrick> ** please test amarok1.4-beta2 for Kubuntu Dapper x86 packages: http://tiber.tauware.de/~jpatrick/debs/amarok1.4-beta2/ - thanks
[10:09] <Snake__> ARGH
[10:09] <Snake__> Are you joking!
[10:10] <Snake__> jpatrick: I just fought for 3 days to complie that stupid program
[10:10] <dark_suic> mmm
[10:10] <dark_suic> why compiling when he is offering you the packages?
[10:10] <jpatrick> Snake__: haha!
[10:10] <Snake__> dark_suic: Because the packages wernt avalible
[10:10] <dark_suic> :P
[10:11] <Husio> Hi
[10:11] <inteliwasp> hello
[10:11] <Husio> i have a problem with cherrypy
[10:11] <jpatrick> Snake__: well now they are
[10:11] <Snake__> heh
[10:12] <Snake__> jpatrick: the only problem with that beta is the vfat support (that ive seen so far)
[10:12] <Snake__> Otherwise, it seems close to read to gold for me
[10:12] <Husio> I've apt it, and everything is ok, but when I whant to run script, I have a message that there is no module named cherrypy :/
[10:12] <Husio> any idea ? :-)
[10:13] <Snake__> ready**
[10:13] <ubuntu_test_thaf> Someone knows the ZETA OS here?
[10:14] <Husio> someone used cherrypy ?
[10:14] <jpatrick> Snake__: can you tell me if the gst0.10 is working in those packs?
[10:15] <Snake__> jpatrick: I would if I ran it, but then I woiuld need to recomplie, im in breezy :)
[10:15] <inteliwasp> Husio, have you tried the #ubuntu channel for help, sorry i'm still new to linux
[10:15] <jpatrick> Snake__: damn
[10:15] <Snake__> jpatrick: and its 3 hours a complie...so in conclusion, Not really :(
[10:16] <Husio> my number is banned on #ubuntu... I have to restart pppo
[10:16] <Snake__> Husio: why are you banned
[10:16] <Husio> but I probably won't conect to freenode then
[10:16] <Husio> Snake__ : no ide
[10:16] <Husio> my IP isn't the same every time
[10:16] <Snake__> Husio: Talk to seveas about it in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[10:17] <jpatrick> Snake__: took ~30 minutes here
[10:17] <Snake__> Husio: its in the same pool
[10:17] <Snake__> jpatrick: Yea well im on a 700 mhz PC... :P
[10:18] <Bennnner> I'm trying to install W32CODECS with http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/w32codecs?s=codecs but when i type "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" says cant find w32codecs package
[10:18] <Bennnner> any help?
[10:19] <Snake__> Bennnner: you have to download it from the webpage, then install it with "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs" (or watever the package you downloaded is called)
[10:19] <dark_suic> u need to add the repository where w32codecs are
[10:19] <Snake__> dark_suic: is there a repo with it?
[10:19] <dark_suic> plf have them
[10:19] <dark_suic> i installed them from repos
[10:19] <dark_suic> hangon a sec
[10:20] <Skrot> hmm.. how's Xgl support with kubuntu (as in KDE)
[10:20] <Snake__> Skrot: non existant in breezy
[10:20] <Skrot> Using dapper
[10:20] <Bennnner> dark-suic: i did it, and did update i can see the url when i type apt-get....
[10:20] <Snake__> !+xgl
[10:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:20] <dark_suic> Snake__, i think it's in backports aside from plf
[10:21] <dark_suic> Bennnner, what repo did you add?
[10:21] <Bennnner> snake: thanks... that's my last option... not yet familiar with files system & commands
[10:21] <dark_suic> i have them in the repos, for sure
[10:21] <Skrot> Snake__: Thanks. I'll check it out.
[10:21] <Snake__> Bennnner: listen to dark_suic , hes got repos I didnt know existed :)
[10:21] <Bennnner> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:21] <Bennnner> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:21] <dark_suic> Bennnner, downloading it just gets in console doing a single "dpkg -i w32codecs.deb"
[10:22] <dark_suic> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:22] <dark_suic> deb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:22] <dark_suic> these are mine
[10:22] <dark_suic> try them
[10:22] <Bennnner> ok 2sec
[10:25] <Bennnner> currently downloading... seems to work :)
[10:28] <clem_yeats> hey there... I've got a weird problem..
[10:29] <clem_yeats> my laptop ran out of batteries, since then my keyboard layout is totally messed up in X..
[10:29] <clem_yeats> config file look alright though..
[10:29] <clem_yeats> any idea ?
[10:29] <Bennnner> seems to have completly installed, should i do something in kaffeine and others? because i tried a VCD(MPEG1) didnt work, and a AVI(No compressed) i hear the sound, but no video
[10:30] <dark_suic> Bennnner, just make sure to restart kaffeine
[10:30] <dark_suic> and it should work
[10:30] <dark_suic> Bennnner, u use gstreamer or xine?
[10:32] <Bennnner> not sure whats your talking abour
[10:32] <dark_suic> in kaffeine
[10:32] <dark_suic> go to options menu
[10:32] <dark_suic> and there you should have an "engine" option
[10:33] <dark_suic> there will appear gstreamer
[10:33] <Bennnner> ah ok.. i see, in the button right is writed gstreamerpart
[10:33] <dark_suic> do you have the kaffeine option????
[10:33] <dark_suic> ok
[10:33] <dark_suic> then install kaffeine-xine
[10:33] <Bennnner> yes
[10:33] <dark_suic> (with adept for example)
[10:33] <dark_suic> ok
[10:33] <dark_suic> then just select kaffeine instead of gstreamer
[10:33] <dark_suic> (kaffeine is the xine engine)
[10:34] <clem_yeats> anybody knows for my keyboard layout problem ?
[10:34] <clem_yeats> I'm stuck in console :)
[10:37] <Bennnner> thanks darksuic, i'll try that... im comming back in couple of minutes ill tell you if you're still there.. thanks alot
[10:39] <clem_yeats> where is keyboard layout defined in KDE appart from xorg.conf ?
[10:40] <frank_> clem_yeats: try setxkbmap -layout us
[10:40] <clem_yeats> frank_ : ok
[10:41] <clem_yeats> oh....
[10:41] <clem_yeats> that's weird now.
[10:41] <clem_yeats> I didn't change anything.
[10:41] <clem_yeats> and it works.
[10:41] <clem_yeats> the only thing I did was to remove the easykubuntu package.
[10:41] <frank_> it fixed itself?
[10:41] <clem_yeats> hmm...
[10:41] <ciga> hi
[10:41] <clem_yeats> that would indicate some kind of hardware problem would it ?
[10:42] <frank_> clem_yeats: I don't know.
[10:42] <clem_yeats> oh. I think I spotted something.
[10:42] <clem_yeats> the character layout I got is the same as if I keep my Fn key pressed.
[10:42] <ciga> is it good/secure/wise to go from breezy to dapper now? Or I should white?
[10:42] <clem_yeats> maybe it was stuck..
[10:43] <clem_yeats> ok, anyway.. thanks a lot for the help.
[10:43] <clem_yeats> I was ready to panic :)
[10:43] <frank_> ciga: I suggest waiting. dapper is still in development. there are no garantees that it will work well
[10:43] <clem_yeats> I'll leave and log in again in X-mode..
[10:46] <clem_yeats> re
[10:47] <clem_yeats> I was talking to somebody before who showed us a screenshot of his desk.. showing transparency and nice looking things. Can't remember who it was...
[10:48] <clem_yeats> oh.. it was admrl.
[11:15] <chx> how could I remove those packages that are signed "rc" by dpkg -l ?
[11:18] <clem_yeats_away> are there many chx ?
[11:18] <chx> clem_yeats_away: not that many, why?
[11:19] <chx> clem_yeats_away: that I asked the same in debian? yes I did
[11:19] <Skrot> How can I tell kubuntu dapper to load the ipw2200 module with a extra parameter at boot (led=1)?
[11:20] <clem_yeats_away> you can remove them by type sudo aptitude remove package1 package2 and so on...
[11:20] <Red_Herring> Skrot: sudo modprobe ipw2200 led=1
[11:20] <Red_Herring> first ya gotta remove it first
[11:20] <clem_yeats_away> I didn't say anything about debian...
[11:20] <Skrot> Red_Herring: At boot. Every time the machine boots i want it to use led=1
[11:20] <Red_Herring> ah
[11:20] <Red_Herring> even easier
[11:20] <Red_Herring> sudo vim /etc/modules
[11:20] <Red_Herring> i think
[11:21] <clem_yeats_away> yep
[11:21] <Red_Herring> hold on, dont use vim
[11:21] <Red_Herring> nano
[11:21] <Red_Herring> "sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:21] <clem_yeats_away> matter of preference..
[11:21] <dark_suic> :P
[11:21] <dark_suic> vim roolz :P
[11:21] <Red_Herring> then add "ipw2200 led=1"
[11:21] <Red_Herring> dark_suic: too true, but its hard to explain on irc
[11:21] <dark_suic> loll, i know, don't mind :P
[11:22] <Skrot> Red_Herring: Sure that'll to the trick? =)
[11:22] <Red_Herring> yup
[11:22] <Red_Herring> :-D <-- that sure!
[11:22] <Skrot> hehe :D
[11:26] <slow-motion> n8
[11:39] <lextul> ohh amarok 1.4 b2 is out : http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta2/
[11:39] <Red_Herring> ok, whats the difference?
[11:40] <prague> hello
[11:40] <Red_Herring> hi
[11:41] <prague> do you have to edit inittab in order to boot ot command line? init 3 doesn't do anything.
[11:41] <prague> *to
[11:41] <Red_Herring> hrm, just hit ctrl-alt-backspace? :-P
[11:42] <frank23> prague: the run levels are different
[11:42] <frank23> prague: try init 1
[11:43] <frank23> prague: init 1 is single user
[11:43] <prague> yeah ok... brb
[11:43] <prague> :)
[11:48] <ziza> hello, is there a vmplayer specialist awake here? i'm trying to find a link to the vmware tools which i'd like to install on my guest OS (WinXP and Ubuntu Dapper Drake)
[11:49] <frank23> ziza: it's in the vmware menu: install vmware tools
[11:49] <Red_Herring> has someone made a XP thing for vmplayer?
[11:49] <Red_Herring> i wanna borrow it ;-)
[11:49] <frank23> Red_Herring: a what?
[11:49] <Red_Herring> jkjk
[11:49] <ziza> afaik this option is only available in vmware ws
[11:49] <Red_Herring> well
[11:50] <frank23> ziza: oh you have the player?
[11:50] <Red_Herring> there is a free version of vmware, vmplayer
[11:50] <Red_Herring> yeah
[11:50] <ziza> yeah :)
[11:50] <Red_Herring> has someone made XP for the player?
[11:50] <frank23> ziza: maybe you can download vmware tools from the website.
[11:50] <ziza> i think that's illegal
[11:50] <Red_Herring> not if you own a legit copy of the OS
[11:51] <ziza> well, i'm searching on the official website and the official forum already...
[11:51] <Red_Herring> my parents got a legit copy of XP, so i am entitled to an XP image
[11:51] <ciga> frank23: yes, I know dapper is under development, but I'd like to upgrade, not install from the start. Is that make a difference?
[11:51] <Red_Herring> you cant upgrade from breezy to dapper now
[11:52] <Red_Herring> but you can upgrade from flight 1 to flight X
[11:52] <frank23> ziza: ciga you can upgrade to dapper now but if I were you, I would wait until the release in a month
[11:53] <Red_Herring> frank23: not if shuttleworth gets his way:-P
[11:53] <Tm_T> :p
[11:53] <Tm_T> it's not only mark ;)
[11:53] <frank23> Red_Herring: I don't understand
[11:53] <Red_Herring> i totally aggree with what mark wants
[11:54] <Red_Herring> but 6 weeks is a bit much, unless you really wanna emphasize this release
[11:54] <Bennnner> darksuic are you still there?
[11:54] <Red_Herring> then again, i really have high hopes for dapper, at least in the ubuntu branch anyway, kubuntu still has some work to do
[11:54] <frank23> Red_Herring: if your parents have a xp copy they're not using, you could put it in vmware
[11:55] <frank23> Red_Herring: oh they want to delay the release? this one is big, 3 years support, maybe it's understandable
[11:55] <Red_Herring> lextul: whattts the difference?
[11:55] <yanis> hello world
[11:55] <lextul> mom .
[11:55] <Red_Herring> frank23: yeah, he really wannts to emphasize this release
[11:56] <ziza> playing frozen-bubble on my guest Ubuntu Dapper Drake is really fun :)
[11:56] <Bennnner> dark_suic are you there
[11:56] <lextul> http://kopete.kde.org/roadmap.php
[11:56] <HymnToLife> ziza> playing FB on whatever Linux distro is fun :D
[11:56] <dark_suic> yep
[11:56] <ziza> yeah but it's amazing that it runs smoothly in a VM!
[11:56] <lextul> amarok 1.4b2 http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/multimedia/amarok/ChangeLog?rev=516027&view=markup
[11:57] <ziza> and i can even shut down my VM, and restore the state at a later time, hibernation so to say :)
[11:57] <Red_Herring> w00t
[11:57] <Red_Herring> i like kopete
[11:57] <Red_Herring> but i hate its irc plugin
[11:57] <ziza> so i can continue playing FB from where I left! lol, what a cheater I am :D
[11:58] <ciga> why there is no amarok 1.4b2 for breezy?
[11:58] <Bennnner> dark_suic it works for the codecs, every file type ive opened works, but somes are very slow, or no sound
[11:58] <Red_Herring> whens the next kubuntu meeting here gonna be?
[11:59] <sledge> When it's done. (TM)
[11:59] <Red_Herring> really?
[11:59] <Red_Herring> we arent gonna have another?
[11:59] <dark_suic> Bennnner, i don't know
[11:59] <dark_suic> maybe the codecs u need are even newer than what w32codecs supports
[11:59] <dark_suic> try with videolan vlc or mplayer
[12:00] <Snake__> ciga: You still around?
[12:00] <Red_Herring> vlc = l33t
[12:00] <lextul> and amarok for dapper is in german ;) (not like the old one 1.3..8 in the dapper repos)
[12:00] <dark_suic> if u play them ok then it will probably be a weird thing
[12:00] <Bennnner> yeah, i only tried kaffeine yet.. but doesnt matters a good step have been done..
[12:00] <dark_suic> ye p:)
[12:01] <dark_suic> i don't have problems with my videos with kaffeine though
[12:01] <ciga> Snake__: expect an answer? ;)
[12:01] <Red_Herring> i dont like kaffine, i hope dapper's is better, because kaffiene for breezy sucked
[12:01] <Red_Herring> !w32codecs
[12:01] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:01] <Snake__> ciga: Yulp, The reason theres not amarok beta 2 is because of the taglibs, the one in the repos is 1.3, amarok requires 1.4
[12:01] <frank23> Red_Herring: I use kaffeine-xine, its not that bad
[12:02] <Red_Herring> allright, gstreamer in general
[12:02] <Snake__> ciga: So you can get amarok beta 2 if you complie it up, but you need to also complie taglibs, and remove the old ones
[12:02] <ziza> xine and mplayer are the only players that really work without complaints
[12:02] <Bennnner> should i change some settings in the xine motor config? or by default is working great?
[12:02] <dark_suic> Red_Herring, he has insatlled w32codecs
[12:02] <ziza> on my system of course :)
[12:02] <ciga> Snake__: I have the taglib, but amarok does not compile.
[12:02] <frank23> Red_Herring: I know. gstreamer is horrible
[12:02] <dark_suic> and i dont have any problem with a clear install of breezy and kaffeine
[12:02] <Snake__> ciga: you have taglib 1.4?
[12:02] <dark_suic> i havent changed anything