[12:04] Psi-Jack: 3.4 [12:04] Aha! That's why spca5xx locks up on me. :) [12:05] hi tritium [12:05] hi LaserJock === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolsonap is now known as dolson === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] LaserJock: ping [12:37] dolson: pong [12:37] LaserJock: you busy? :) [12:37] hmm, depends [12:38] this just needs to be uploaded, that's all http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2130 [12:39] if you have time to do it, this is the UVF for it https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34244 [12:39] malone bug 34244 in seq24 "seq24 UVF request" [Normal,Confirmed] [12:39] dolson: it looks like the comment says it was done [12:41] dolson: have you looked at the build on LP? [12:43] LaserJock: it isn't uploaded yet [12:43] feel free to do so... otherwise i will upload it ;) [12:44] slomo: ok, I'll do it === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] heh, that was quite a bug (34606)... [12:51] Ubugtu: bug #34606 [12:51] malone bug 34606 in Nexenta OS "Administrator root password readable in cleartext on Breezy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34606 [12:52] sorry LaserJock I went to the washroom. the build didn't fail, did it? [12:52] by all users, at that. [12:52] it's confirmed and fixed already though, so that's wrong... [12:52] dolson: no, it hasn't be uploaded. I'm going to do that now. [12:54] Colin Watson fixed it really quickly but the news has spread all over the net faster than that :/ [12:54] ooo, Ubuntu is joining the Linux Audio dot Org consortium... I wonder who is responsible for that [12:54] well, as long as it's fixed quickly, that's good. [12:55] although i have to wonder how long this has been a bug.... [12:55] about 5 months... [12:56] nice... [12:58] I can already read the forums' headlines : "the best distro of the year was in fact the less secure"... 1 month and a half before dapper release that sucks... === theCore [n=alex@Toronto-HSE-ppp3785508.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] now I have to go to bed if I want be able to wake up for school tomorrow, gn8 everybody [01:04] hmm, /var/run/tor dir tends to disappear a lot === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] dolson: ok, seq24 hit dapper-changes [01:24] thanks LaserJock :) [01:25] dolson: np === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec_ [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === windom [n=windom@host-84-220-6-62.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spec_ [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === windom [n=windom@host-84-220-6-62.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@220-245-224-46.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BlueT_ [n=BlueT@61-59-209-195.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] hi Kyral and minghua [03:47] hey [03:47] anyone know where anacron logs too? [03:47] hello LaserJock and Kyral [03:47] Kyral: /var/logs I would imagine [03:47] hmm [03:48] trying to figure out if the update script I put in /etc/cron.daily on my server is firing off [03:48] minghua: need any uploads? [03:48] LaserJock: heh. not yet [03:49] LaserJock: will pester you when I need :-) [03:49] minghua: ok fine. I'm in a bit of a sponsoring mood tonight ;-) [03:49] We are "sponsoring" now? [03:50] well, I'll sponsor uploads if they need to get done [03:50] Hehe, soon XenBreezy will become Xen Dapper === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] LaserJock: So you've become the Master eh? :-) [03:52] when did bddebian get here [03:53] Heya Kyral [03:55] Fuuuuuuuuck I hate qt-x11-free [03:55] editing a wiki, what's the best way to flag command? bolding them? === Kyral yawns [03:55] I'll get my MOTUNess during Dapper+1 [03:56] Kyral: Awesome [03:56] right now I'm learning about Xen and webservers and stuff :D [03:56] Spec: in MediaWiki, I always put a space at the start of the line. not sure about MoinMoin or any others [03:56] xen is cool [03:56] Xen pfft :-) [03:56] dolson: i'm using wiki.ubuntu.com [03:56] that's not a moinmoin, is it? [03:56] oh, it is [03:56] hi bddebian btw. I'm a MOTU now. In some ways I don't feel like one but I try. I am sure grateful that you got me started with the MOTU [03:57] LaserJock: Awesome, congrats. I feel REALLY bad that I have been MIA. :-( [03:57] I'm gonna try Gentoo on this laptop tomorrow [03:57] yah I feel bad that I have been slacking off lol [03:57] I'm trying to become a member still :p [03:58] I had to leave early the last meeting so i could attend a conference and give out ~1300 ubuntu cds to people who work in the government, so they didn't let me join 'cause i wasn't there :p [03:58] bddebian: don't worry, we are MIA at some point [03:58] Spec: Well I did quite a bit of stuff for Breezy but I'm still not a Member according to Launchpad :-) [03:59] Spec: well, that contribution should help towards becoming a member for sure [04:00] bddebian: don't worry, you're special wiki is still around ;-) [04:00] ah hah! it's {{{ and }}} [04:00] LaserJock: i know, it was unfortunate timing, they said my profile looked good enough to become a member [04:00] LaserJock: That's sad :-) [04:02] Spec: well, next time. I'm sorry that you weren't able to make it. [04:02] how do I make a block of text render like a block of text as i've written it in the wiki editor? [04:02] like, in html, it'd be """ whatever """ [04:05] Spec: You might check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing [04:05] ah, i thought all the help was only at the bottom of the page [04:05] which is very limited :p [04:07] ah, very helpful, thanks [04:07] np === Erlang looks but will hopefully be very much more helpful with Dapper+1 too... === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] Heya ajmitch_ [04:12] hello [04:13] what's new? [04:13] I fixed all the bugs === ajmitch_ can't ssh to his home box from uni for some reason [04:13] ;-P [04:13] great, I can go back to holiday mode then [04:14] hi ajmitch_ === ajmitch_ sees his home box is still on irc, so nothing too major has happened [04:14] hey LaserJock [04:14] ajmitch_: that happens to me all the time when I leave my computer alone too long... they can't seem to live without me. [04:15] ajmitch_: do you know if builds are retried after failure on soyuz? [04:15] yeah [04:15] I'd better go home & sort it out :) [04:15] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiBroadcomDriver [04:15] since the lab here has taken about 10 minutes to do 75% of it [04:15] and I could do the rest at home === ajmitch_ feels like a nice cold drink [04:16] last time it was only dyndns.org screwing up. [04:18] sure, except I'm getting 'no route to host', and dns is correctly resolving === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] ogra: do you want the bugs filed against gnome-screensaver? no, right? you want them against the apps themselves === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] hi G0SUB [04:51] LaserJock :) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-89.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus_ [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] hmm, stupid laptop ran out of juice :( [05:31] Night MOTU [05:36] cya Kyral === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === floam [n=nnnnfloa@sh.nu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [05:43] hi Hobbsee [05:43] hey LaserJock [05:43] hello Hobbsee [05:43] hey ajmitch [05:44] hi [05:44] hey spacey, what's up? [05:46] i want to sleep [05:47] how are you doing ajmitch:) [05:48] good night MOTUs [05:49] good :) === bet0x [n=barrahom@105-38-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@59.95.18.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson installs 55 games to test gnome-screensaver [06:30] lol [06:30] go report those bugs ;-) [06:37] LaserJock: ogra must been away, do you think that if gnome-screensaver comes on during then the bug goes against g-s or [06:38] hmm, I'm not sure. If you do it against the game you should probably subscribe ogra so he can see it easily. [06:39] yeh i agree with lj [06:45] k, that's what I will do if any of these don't respect g-s === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] Mailman/lists.ubuntu.com should require gpg keys, and encrypt any e-mail sent to me that contains my password... Where would I file that suggestion officially? === dzonni [n=dzonni@ordi.ee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-65-246-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt2ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] so, making wiki pages gives you no karma? [08:13] I don't think it does. Fixing bugs does - hint hint ;) === ajmitch gets a-fixin' === ajmitch is actually working on a bug at the moment [08:15] I amazed my wife today. I showed here how with 1 line of text I could set ubuntu up to record, trancode and burn the japanese news at 5:30am for her, automatically, 6 days a week. [08:16] wonderful :) [08:16] isn't cron nice ;) [08:16] how well do you understand japanese? [08:17] more spoken then written. I can do very basic conversation [08:17] I can start to understand some preschool shows now [08:19] I wish cron also let me specify seconds as well as minutes [08:19] you need it to be that accurate? [08:20] for tv recording, it would be nice. currently I trigger recoding 1 minute before the program is due to start === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-092-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] Yagisan: you could put a sleep 45 at the start of your cron command line :) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] dolson: yes that is a possibility. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] Yagisan: you often want a minue fuzzyness on recording anyway? [09:00] *minute [09:00] i in fact use 5 minutes.. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0CBE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] Lathiat: 5 ? I give a few minutes past the end in case it's late, but not that much. I chew up 6GB/hr just dumping it down [09:03] good morning [09:06] hello dholbach [09:07] morning dholbach [09:08] hey guys! :) [09:09] dholbach: how was your weekend? :) [09:09] G'day dholbach [09:10] Yagisan: yeh but 5 minues isnt going to hurt ;p [09:11] Yagisan: i dont know about tv there, but tv here can tend to move around by a few minutes [09:11] mayeb yours is better, i dunn [09:11] o [09:11] ajmitch: merci beaucoup - it was fine... caught up with mails, did a bit of python hacking, tried the new records i bought in london, went to a thai place - stuff like that [09:11] ajmitch: how was your weekend? [09:14] i've been meaning to find a good thai place [09:15] Lathiat: it does move around here, but as I can only pick up one channel (when the wind is blowing right), I don't mind missing the ads at the start ;) [09:18] dholbach: alright, flew back to NZ on saturday, did very little yesterday === ajmitch is back to hacking now === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["leaving..] === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] ouch 1 channel ;p [09:32] Lathiat? [09:32] yagisan [09:32] ah, I see context [09:33] context from 3 lines up ;p [09:33] 3 lines + extra junk in between :) [09:33] my terminals 80x35 and i could see it still ;p [09:33] ajmitch: still working on the embedded project? :) [09:33] err, 80x25 === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] sivang: ? [09:35] see context above.. ;) === ajmitch is back in NZ === Lathiat kicks ajmitch === ajmitch kicks Lathiat [09:36] ouch [09:36] bastard. [09:36] enough of that [09:36] I'm not here to be nice === Lathiat pulls the CoC card [09:37] can anyone tell how bored i am? ;p [09:37] yes [09:37] 23 minutes and counting.. :) [09:38] morning siretart! :) [09:42] looking for review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2143 === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz [09:43] Mongoose: please turn off public away [09:46] hi ajmitch [09:47] how are you? [09:48] thanks fine. I'm currently at work. how are you? [09:50] alright [09:50] :) === ajmitch is keen to get back into packaging [09:53] a friend is telling me that he was just bitten by selinux not letting him run vmware [09:54] I think selinux is right ;) [09:54] hehe [09:55] haha === dolson just noticed that the music for the late-night Girls Gone Wild advertisements is similar to the music in the Nintendo video games such as Mario Golf... hmm === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] looks like I don't need to send out another sync report === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-152-1-20-234.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] sistpoty has uploaded them all? [10:20] no idea [10:20] seems like someone (*sigh*) needs to check each item if it is uptodate in dapper === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on fixing bugs, malone is full of them. === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by siretart at Fri Feb 24 15:35:58 2006 [04:17] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I fixed upstream [04:17] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: with the maintainer permission [04:17] (azeem/#ubuntu-motu) ah, cool [04:17] (Spec/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I thought the dh_python was supposed to find all the depenencies, this program depends on python2.4-reportlab, python2.4-wxgtk2.6, etc [04:17] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: but I just wonder if I just should bother making a clean patch or not [04:18] (Spec/#ubuntu-motu) it's easy enough to make my own dependencies though [04:18] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: because next update upstream will not need the clean patch [04:18] (azeem/#ubuntu-motu) hub: having it in the diff is better practise I think, splitting up the .ac patch from the regeneration patch would be nice, though [04:18] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) s/clean// [04:18] (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I have to change the rules to also regenerate auto* [04:18] etc [04:18] and that is more work [04:18] hub: that's the other possibility [04:19] for something that won't be need at next version [04:19] Riddell: ok, so if I use version like 4:3.5.1-kopete0.12, I still have "initial release" in changelog? [04:19] then you would have to Build-Depend on autotools, which some people don't like [04:19] Spec: dh_python can only figure out the correct python version to use I think [04:19] Tm_T: yes [04:19] imo [04:19] huh [04:19] azeem: that's good, because i explicitely specify that :p [04:19] because it's the first release of this source [04:20] and the changelog is linked to the source, not to the binaries [04:20] raphink: yeah, you know it's hard to make nice debian dir ;) [04:20] Tm_T: hehe [04:20] not much idea what there should be and what not [04:20] hehe [04:21] Riddell: /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz after last upgrade of k-d-s [04:21] ;) [04:22] doesn't sem to have really fixed the wallpaper, on the contrary [04:22] raphink: hmm? [04:22] oops sorry, wrong paste [04:22] hehe [04:22] wait [04:22] $ kdesktop: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz [04:22] that's it ;) [04:22] I had pasted just the end of it [04:22] how is source distrobuted when you apt-source something, is that the created tar.gz file? [04:22] since i upgraded k-d-s, I hvae no wallpaper anymore [04:23] :p === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] raphink: that's kubuntu-default-settings? [04:23] Spec: you get the orig.tar.gz, the .dsc and the diff.gz (or other files in case this is a debian-native), then it runs dpkg-source -x on the dsc to extract the dir [04:23] Tm_T: yes [04:23] aye [04:24] Well, i didn't get an orig.tar.gz or a diff.gz created, but I did get a python-package-version.tar.gz created === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] I don't have any diffs either [04:25] Spec: orig is just renamed default package [04:25] s/default/original [04:25] just the tarball of the source? [04:25] Riddell: it installs a png wallpaper but still gets the svg as default it seems [04:25] (I still dislike this new wallpaper very much)= [04:26] hehe, yay, it worked [04:32] Cya guys I'm off to play with my puppies :D [04:45] Kyral: what kind of puppies? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-152-1-20-234.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-250.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson is now known as dolzzzon === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on fixing bugs, malone is full of them. === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by siretart at Fri Feb 24 15:35:58 2006 [05:16] (Kyral/#ubuntu-motu) hub: a 3 year old Chocolate Lab and a 1 year old West Highland White Terrier [05:17] -ELATE === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] chocolate lab as human baby? === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] Tm_T, no, dog breed [05:18] aah [05:18] eat it [05:18] .... [05:18] STAB! [05:18] ah, two e [05:19] not dog bread [05:19] .... [05:19] ;) === Kyral hands Tm_T a bottle of Bawls [05:19] Caffine you need, Yoda say! [05:19] Actually I can pull up pics of the dogs if you really wanna see them [05:20] I do I do [05:20] http://clarkson.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2000901&l=ba169&id=21601643 [05:21] :) === Tm_T is more child- than dogperson === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] could anyone have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2059 ? [05:29] Kyral: cute [05:30] hub: Don't I know it [05:30] Kyral: looks really dark for a chocolate lab [05:30] my GF wants a Boston Terrier [05:30] hub, Its prolly my camera, but yah, Mia pup is kinda dark. But when the light hits her coat right... === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] Terrier == Hyper [05:37] Kyral: I remember a Westie nagging my ex-in-laws' Lab [05:40] hub, they get along well :P [05:40] yeah [05:40] but one was behing the gate [05:40] lol [05:40] and they both had the same name :-) [05:42] where are ubuntu version docs? (how to version packages...) === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] so who maintains multiverse? [05:58] what do you mean? there are many multiverse maintainer! [05:58] which package? [06:01] Spec: MOTU maitains multiverse [06:03] ah, okay, so they maintain both universe and multiverse [06:04] Spec what did you think? MOTM ? [06:05] well, i had a feeling there was a secret underground organization called MOTM.... [06:05] hehe === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tm_T hides === bert__ [n=bert@202-136-109-65.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] is Kubuntu providing KDE updates for Breezy? === tritium [n=rimbert@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] hello MOTU's ;-) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@169.66.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@Toronto-HSE-ppp3785508.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] morning everybody! [07:17] LaserJock it's almost 00:00 here :) [07:18] well, good afternoon and good evening everybody! [07:18] hehe === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] netzmeister: nabend! [07:19] LaserJock have you dist-upgraded to dapper btw? [07:20] G0SUB: what do you mean? like dist-upgraded today? [07:20] LaserJock no ... not today [07:20] LaserJock: hello [07:20] Xgl is a funny thing.. :-D [07:21] G0SUB: well, I've been running Dapper-only since the repos opened [07:21] G0SUB: I haven't seen Breezy since ~ November last year ;-) [07:21] LaserJock hehe ... okay ... I am thinking about upgrading today ... hope nothing breaks :) [07:22] be wary of initramfs... [07:22] Erlang I don't use / need any [07:22] good. [07:23] you wont get around it :) [07:24] my kernels got kinda broke when I dist-upgraded to dapper. [07:24] 2.6.14+ *needs* initramfs ... [07:24] just dont fiddle with the defaults, then all is fine :) [07:25] it was sad because once I fixed that problem Dapper booted and ran just fine on the KDE side. [07:26] GNOME was/is still annoying because of that bug with evdev. === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] Erlang which bug? [07:27] i was about to ask this ... [07:27] gnome-settings-daemon crashes if one uses evdev with a strange button setup... [07:27] i also would like to know which kind of initramfs probs yopu had ... [07:28] me? [07:28] since on 8 machines here i never saw any probs with initramfs ... [07:28] (3 different arches) [07:28] I wish I understood better. [07:29] so what did that mean? be wary of initramfs... [07:29] ogra: who are the buildd admins? elmo and Kamion? [07:29] I don't really understand how it happened. I just know that there was no /dev/hda in the initramfs. [07:30] Erlang, after you upgraded to dapper ? [07:30] I don't know how but the dist-upgrade process seems to have skipped the install of udev. [07:30] ogra: yes. [07:30] LaserJock, infinity and lamont normally [07:31] Erlang, when was this ? in the middle of the udev rewrite ? [07:31] ogra: hmm, ok. so do I just ask for a give-back? [07:31] yep [07:31] morning [07:31] ogra: but I tried so much things to fix the problem that I'd have troubles pinpointing which steps fixed the problems. [07:31] hi ajmitch [07:32] Erlang, we rewrote udev completely, that was an expected behavior in the beginning of the release cycle ... === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] I might have been unlucky... === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:33] Seeing "/dev/hda not found" was quite a bit traumatic. I'm luckly I've had enough nerves remaining to fix the problem. I did not try to undeerstand what caused it at first. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] you should have only come to #ubuntu-boot as advised on the mailing list [07:35] and would have fixed it within 10 mins :) [07:35] but that was fixed ages ago ... [07:35] I might have used the wrong channel. I did not get much support from IRC. In fact, I remember providing support to some people wanting to install Xgl. [07:37] Erlang how did you fix your issue? [07:37] ogra what's the standard procedure to fix such problems? [07:38] G0SUB, follow the development very closely ;) [07:38] heh [07:38] ususally if we have expected brakage like that one, it gets annunced in advance [07:38] GOSUB: Booted from breezy rescue, installed udev and many other packages, fiddled wit the config a bit, and dpkg-reconfigured my kernels several times. That's all I remember. [07:38] ogra is any such breakage expected now? [07:38] ogra: I'm guilty of not following closely enough. I'm rather new to this. I'll certainly be more wary. [07:38] G0SUB, also dont upgrade to a development release to early in the cycle ... [07:39] ok [07:39] but today? I am dist-upgrading today [07:39] we usually rip everything apart in the beginning and glue it together again :) [07:39] we're near the end land past most freezes, upgrade should be fine nowadays [07:40] s/land/and [07:40] ok [07:40] I upgraded just after UVF I think. === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FAA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] hrm, we still have no new motu report in place :-/ [07:55] who was up to do it ? [07:55] or better, was anyone up to do it ? [07:56] whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY ISSUE [07:57] hm? [07:57] whose birthday? [07:57] MOTU REPORT [07:57] ok [07:57] and MOTU is just a bit older :) [07:57] has much been happening in the MOTU world lately? === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] sure === dholbach starts to add to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Report === ajmitch starts to write a UVF exception request for f-spot [08:02] "has much been happening in the MOTU world lately?" is not exactly cheery :) [08:03] sure, but it's mainly been more of the same - more bugfixing :) === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] sometimes no news is good news :) [08:03] lol, true [08:03] hrm [08:03] but we did get some new MOTUs ;-) [08:04] dholbach: Hi Daniel :-) [08:04] hi bddebian === dholbach hugs bddebian [08:04] :-) === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] dholbach, bddebian is back, isnt that worth an erntry in the motu report ? :) [08:05] Not hardly, unless I get my ass in gear :-) [08:06] consider it encouragement to do so? :-) === Erlang is now known as Erlang[Redaction [08:07] dholbach: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/34799 [08:07] malone bug 34799 in f-spot "UVF Exception: 0.1.10 -> 0.1.11" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [08:07] :) === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] Mithrandir: :-) === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@p5483F513.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] bddebian hello! [08:33] is there any reasons for a package build to fail in soyuz but work in a pbuilder? [08:34] they should be essentially the same, right? [08:35] Hello G0SUB [08:35] bddebian you might know me ... I used to be GNULinuxer ;) [08:36] Ah nice. :-) I REALLY should change my nick :-) [08:36] bddebian hehe [08:36] bdubuntu ? [08:36] bdhurd ;-P [08:36] pfft [08:37] not unless you ported ubuntu to it [08:37] bddebian hehe ... [08:37] LaserJock: which package is it? something that uses scons? [08:37] bdworthlessass? :-) === ajmitch thinks bddebian shoudl change nick to stjude [08:37] slomo: yes, supercollider [08:37] patron saint of lost causes ;) [08:37] ajmitch: Hahaha [08:37] lol [08:38] LaserJock: talk to a buildd admin about it... afaik all scons stuff fails on the buildds [08:38] slomo: hmmm, ok. That stinks. [08:38] slomo: thanks for the heads up [08:38] slomo: thanks for UVF :) [08:39] LaserJock: it's the same for ardour iirc [08:39] ajmitch: np ;) [08:39] slomo: at least it isn't just me. 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