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jordiLarstiQ: oh well, he's gone12:20
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oohlafHi10:13
oohlafLaunchpad should sync every day it's bzr branch with upstream cvs right?10:14
oohlafOr does it take longer?10:14
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LarstiQjordi: where should he be directed if he wants to talk some more?10:31
LarstiQoohlaf: yeah, but there can be kinks in cables10:32
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oohlafIn which timezone does it operate? Yate cvs was updated Mon Mar 13 09:37:56 2006 UTC (24 hours, 19 minutes ago)10:35
oohlafLaunchpad says Date last sync finished:  2006-03-1410:35
carlosoohlaf: the servers are on UTC10:36
oohlafMaybe add hours to sync finished?10:37
oohlafOr sync started, as that would be the time of upstream cvs that is definately included10:38
carlosoohlaf: where are you looking that date?10:38
oohlafhttps://launchpad.net/products/yate/+series/devel10:39
oohlafhttp://voip.null.ro/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/yate/modules/ysipchan.cpp has the latest upstream revision, but is not in launchpad10:40
carlosoohlaf: Import status:  Syncing10:42
carlosoohlaf: it says it's being syncing atm....10:43
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oohlafOh, I never saw that status change..everytime I look it says syncing10:44
oohlafOr is it really syncing more times a day10:44
carlosoohlaf: I cannot answer that question, ddaa is your man, but he's busy atm10:45
oohlafok, I'll just wait another couple of hours10:45
oohlafenough things to do in the meantime :)10:46
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kikospiv!11:01
spivMe~11:02
spivHow's your end of the room? ;)11:03
kikoit is giving me lowercase failures11:11
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salgadostub, around?11:29
kikogood idea11:29
kikowhere's stub the stud11:29
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carlosspiv: https://launchpad.net/products/bzr/+bug/3416611:38
Ubugtumalone bug 34166 in bzr "bzr push pushes a nested tree while it didn't in the past" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  11:38
spivcarlos: thanks11:42
SteveAstub: ping11:50
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seb128hi11:58
seb128is anybody working on fixing the build logs page?11:58
kikoseb128, what's up with that page?11:58
kikois there a reported bug? I'm unaware of the issue11:58
seb128log are 1 month old11:58
kikoreally?11:58
seb128https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds11:58
seb128no no, I just come here to make jokes and complain :p11:58
seb128no, no bug yet, I prefer to ask before filing a bug that's likely to have no reply for some time :)12:00
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kikostub, ping?12:10
kikoseb128, I didn't quite get that -- the /logs/ are 1 month old?12:10
kikoor do you mean there are builds pending for 1 month?12:10
seb128kiko: no, that page look at the dates listed12:10
kikothat's because those builds still haven't gone through12:11
kikoI suspect those builds are superseded12:11
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sabdflhey lunchpadders12:11
jordicarlos: what is, briefly, the status of firefox & ooo translationsm for dapper?12:11
sabdflhow's the sprinting?12:11
kikoyep12:11
kikogoing well!12:11
jordikiko: have you been running?12:12
jordidon't say yes.12:12
kikoevery day, jordi12:12
jordioh man12:12
carlosjordi: ooo translations are working since breezy (pending to be imported for dapper)12:12
seb128kiko: how do I see that my GNOME uploads built fine so? And don't tell me to go on 40 differents page for every single package 12:13
carlosjordi: about firefox... nothing has been done yet after Montreal. Anyway, I guess I will 'fix' that situation during this sprint as it's part of the solid import/exports task12:13
jordicarlos: what about that bug "untranslated messages are copied in english", is that a non-issue?12:13
jordinod12:13
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carlosjordi: as I didn't get any input on that, I don't think it's an issue but a misunderstood of the system12:14
jordiok. hopefully12:14
carlosjordi: are you able to reproduce it?12:14
jordicarlos: no12:14
jordicarlos: ah, my other items: any chance you can get ahold of stub today, for both the import fix merge and my akan/breton requests?12:14
kikoseb128, well, for now, you are better off using https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=pending&batch_start=40&batch_end=6012:15
carlosjordi: import fix merge is not blocked on stub but on weird test failures that we are debugging atm12:15
jordioh ok12:16
seb128kiko: that page has stuff from previous month12:16
kikoseb128, this is fixed but not rolled out yet -- cprov and Kinnison wrote a new status, SUPERSEDED, that will avoid us trying to rebuild and give-back superseded packages, which is what's causing those first 43 packages to hang around.12:16
carlosjordi: about the plural forms, yes I will do it today now that our network is stable enough to work12:16
kikoseb128, those packages are all superseded.12:16
jordicarlos: I send you my best wishes to get that sorted. :)12:16
seb128kiko: like is there any way to fail what packages failed to build since yesterday?12:16
jordicarlos: ok12:16
kikoseb128, yes, in fact there are12:16
kikoseb128, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=failed12:17
seb128s/fail/see12:17
carlosjordi: well, at least I'm not the only one getting that problem. Kiko got it too with another branch so I'm not alone :-P12:17
seb128kiko: ah, thank you12:17
seb128kiko: weird that builds doesn't list them so12:17
seb128kiko: and is there a way to list by arch? :)12:18
kikobuilds does list them12:18
kikoyou just need to toggle the build state select box12:18
seb128where is that box?12:18
seb128ah right12:18
kikoright12:18
kikoseb128, there is no way to list by arch. however, there is /people/seb128/+packages which does give you some information, and I've reformatted that page -- it should go live today12:19
seb128is there any way to sort them by date so?12:19
kikoin +packages?12:19
seb128https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state= list not chronologic stuff12:19
seb128that's not usable12:19
seb128like I don't care about stuff one month old12:19
kikohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=failed is chronological12:20
kikothe issue with the other listing is that there are packages with builds pending that shouldn't be pending12:20
seb128ok, that will do for today I guess, thank you12:20
kikothat will be fixed in the next soyuz rollout12:20
kikohowever12:20
kikoif you use the link I gave you before:12:20
kikohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=pending&batch_start=40&batch_end=6012:21
kikoyou'll see any "new" pending builds12:21
seb128"41   43  of 43 results"12:21
seb128k, so nothing pending atm?12:21
kikoseb128, exactly.12:21
seb128alright12:21
kikoanything beyond 43 will be pending12:21
kikothe 43 packages will die12:21
seb128was not obvious at looking at the page12:22
kikothey will go to a new SUPERSEDED state12:22
kikoyes, it's a bug12:22
kikothey are superseded packages that we keep retrying to build12:22
kikowhich is crack12:22
kikothey don't need to ever build12:22
seb128is there a plan to have "build logs for the packages I've uploaded"?12:22
kikohave you seen https://launchpad.net/people/seb128/+packages --?12:23
kikoit links to all failed build logs in your uploaded packages12:23
kikohowever, the current organization of the page is suboptimal12:23
kikoit will be improved in the next rollout, which is scheduled for today, however12:23
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anvarprofhi12:25
anvarprofis anybody here12:25
seb128kiko: right, the page is not easy to parse, having a "my uploads which have an issue" page would be nice. Anyway that will be good enough for now, thank you12:25
anvarprof:(12:26
anvarprofI need some help...12:26
kikoseb128, wait till the update -- I think it will give you exactly that information12:27
anvarprofshit12:28
anvarprofis anybody here?12:28
seb128kiko: thank you12:28
anvarprofcan smb help me...12:29
seb128if you don't ask your question no risk12:29
kikothat's true12:30
anvarprofhow can I join to Ubuntu translaters group12:30
kikotalk to jordi anvarprof 12:30
jordianvarprof: hello12:30
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jordianvarprof: what language do you want to work on?12:31
anvarprofUzbek12:31
anvarprofjordi, Is it possible12:32
jordianvarprof: give me a minute12:34
anvarprofok12:35
jordiThere is no Uzbek team. It seems you'll be a pioneer.12:35
jordianvarprof: is it just you, or do you know of more people who want to translate?12:36
anvarprofjordi, I hope...12:36
anvarprofI saw it on Launchpad site12:36
jordiI mean, do you know of more people wanting to translate ubuntu to uzbek right now?12:36
anvarprofjordi, I'll try to find12:37
anvarprofjordi righ now? hmm, maybe we can find, but not now12:37
anvarprofin 2 days it's max12:38
jordino, just asking.12:39
jordiIf you want to get started now, I can appoint you as the Uzbek team.12:39
jordiAnd when more people join you, you can createa a Ubuntu Uzbek translators team12:39
anvarprofthere is not enough people who knows how to translate it12:40
anvarprofso 12:40
jordiyou might prefer to search for more people first, or go ahead on your own12:40
jordiyour choice12:40
anvarprofok12:40
anvarprofso I have to register more people on launchpad site?12:40
jordiany ubuntu  translators needs to have a launchpad account.12:41
jordiDo you have an account?12:41
anvarprofyes12:41
anvarprofI have but my friends haven't12:41
jordioh, but your friends will join you in a matter of days, when they get accounts?12:42
jordihow long will it take for them to get launchpad accounts? If its going to be soon, we might want to wait for them.12:42
anvarprofthey are not here right now12:43
anvarprofso it is possible in a 2 days12:43
anvarprofis it possible to open group before and other translators can join later?12:43
jordianvarprof: ok. Get them launchpad.net accounts, and create a ubuntu-l10n-uz team.12:44
jordiyes, if you're absolutely sure they will join you in a few days12:44
jordihttps://launchpad.net/people/+newteam12:44
jordiyou can create a team here.12:44
anvarprofthanks a lot.12:45
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anvarprofjordi should i create it "open"?12:48
jordimost of the teams are moderated.12:48
anvarprofyes12:48
jordiI advise you moderate it.12:48
anvarprofbut my friends must join my team, so it must be opened?12:49
anvarprofthanks12:49
jordino12:49
jordimoderated means you'll get a confirmation email whenever someone wants to join12:49
anvarprofooh 12:49
jordiso you'll go into your team page, and accept them on by hand.12:49
anvarprofthanks a lot12:49
jordiit's open, but not so open.12:49
anvarprofok12:49
anvarprofjordi, can we talk private12:50
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jordisure12:51
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jordihm, launchpad doesn't set a favicon01:04
mptyes it does01:08
mpt<link rel="shortcut icon" href="/@@/launchpad_favicon.png" />, jordi01:08
carlosjordi: that's your crappy browser :-P01:09
mptThough the "shortcut" in that is redundant, since it's noticed only by Internet Explorer for Windows, which doesn't recognize PNG icons anyway01:09
jordiepiphany is the epiphany01:11
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jordihmm, lack of ephy extensions...01:12
mptjordi, no, if Epiphany is not recognizing *that* kind of icon declaration it's a bug.01:13
carlosjordi: did you installed the web navigation extension?01:13
carlos:-P01:13
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mvoG0SUB: jordi told me you are one of the bengali i18n project leaders. there is some discussion about bengali in #ubuntu-l10n01:17
G0SUBmvo: I am there01:17
carlosjordi: we already have 12777 entries on the queue... :-(01:17
mvoG0SUB: thanks!01:18
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G0SUBmvo: heh, soumyadip is my guy ... he went there from #ubuntu-in :)01:18
jordicarlos: oh great.01:23
jordimpt: hm01:23
carlosjordi: the good news is that today, 1500 entries were imported automatically01:25
jordicarlos: that's a start :)01:26
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mptjordi, the Launchpad icon bug is apparently fixed in trunk Epiphany01:32
jordimpt: oh I see.01:33
jordimpt: did it go in 2.14?01:33
mptjordi, sometime between Breezy and Dapper :-)01:33
jordiah01:33
jordithen it's good01:33
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stubSo should I do the upgrade now or defer until tomorrow?01:39
kikostub, unless the two need to be linked, I'd do the PgSQL 8.1 upgrade today, and then roll out head on thursday01:39
jordicarlos: https://launchpad.net/people/uzbek01:40
jordicarlos: I need you to rename this to standard ubuntu-l10n names01:40
kikostub, or roll out a previous revision, sorry.01:40
jordiI told him the exact names, but he didn't follow.01:40
stubkiko: I need to roll out at least r3243 for PG8.101:40
carlosjordi: Remember that I'm not and admin anymore....01:41
carlosstub: we will need to cherry pick my import queue branch anyway this week if pqm and make check stop breaking the merge...01:41
jordicarlos: oh, thought you could do that anyway.01:42
carlosjordi: no, I don't know what's going on with appointing translators, but in the other parts of launchpad, I have the same permissions you have01:42
jordiok, so I need stub or SteveA here. https://launchpad.net/people/uzbek <- can you edit to be "ubuntu-l10n-uz" and read "Ubuntu Uzbek Translators"?01:43
jordicarlos: I still get that perms denied thing.01:43
jordiare you sure you're only a rosetta-expert?01:43
carlosjordi: and a launchpad developer01:43
carlosjordi: that's the only difference01:44
jordithen there's the bug I guess.01:44
carlosanyway, I hadn't look at the code to know how is that I have permissions and you don't01:44
carlosjordi: right01:44
jordithis should be available to rosetta experts, not developers01:44
stubjordi: What do you want me to do on that page? I didn't understand your request.01:44
carlosjordi: I don't remember adding the launchpad developers there01:44
stubOh... just change the description01:44
stuband the name01:44
carlosstub: go to https://launchpad.net/people/uzbek/+review01:44
carlosthat's it01:45
stubShouldn't need +review for that01:45
carlosstub: I think you need it to rename the team01:45
carlosstub: only admins can rename people/teams, right?01:45
jordistub: yeah, that's it, thanks01:45
stubAll done from +edit01:46
jordiand now that I've got both of you here, it'd be cool if carlos could give sql magic to stub :)01:46
jordistub: thanks dude01:46
carlosjordi: I don't have it ready, I need to get all information in place...01:47
jordiI can try to assemble it, and you OK it.01:47
jordilet me see.01:47
carlosjordi: sure01:47
carlosjordi: You have the SQL code that we use to update plural forms01:47
SteveAstub: ping01:48
stubSteveA: pong01:49
jordiyes01:50
jordicarlos, stub: sent to launchpad@02:02
carlosjordi: ok, thanks02:04
carlosjordi: WHERE code IN ('ak', 'br') will need just one line02:05
carlosstub: r=carlos02:05
carlosstub: please, execute jordi's SQL commands on production 02:06
kikostub, then do them together, I'd say.02:06
jordicarlos: I'll have that in mind02:06
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SteveAstub: going for lunch now.   can we talk after my lunch about problems getting the test suite to run on bellany, and apparent slowness in the test suite recently?02:13
SteveAand also about zope3.2 branches?02:13
SteveAand also about the xmlrpc stuff i'm doing02:14
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stubSteveA: Back?03:22
kikostub, yes, we're back -- SteveA's around03:22
carlosstub: btw, if you do a production rollout, there is already one of my branches merged that needs some data migration03:26
carlosstub: we already tested it on staging03:26
carlosstub: how could I note it to you so you don't forget it?03:27
carlosnothing will break (more than it's already broken) , but we should do it as soon as possible after the code landing so we improve our database content03:27
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stubcarlos: Is this carlos-fix-newlines-chars.py ?03:28
carlosstub: yes03:28
jordistub: thanks03:28
stubcarlos: is it to be run just before or after the next rollout?03:28
carlosstub: the script needs the new code, so I guess after the next rollout03:29
carlosstub: it doesn't depend on db schema changes03:29
stubok. 03:29
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carlosstub: thanks. Remember that the script has a check mode to be sure that the migration was completely done (the -c argument)03:30
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jordicarlos: can you add ubuntu-l10n-br to Ubuntu translators?03:34
kikostub, can you do some pqmming for me?03:34
kikowe're getting an odd failure and we need to get this merged at some point03:34
stubwhussup? Feel like bouncing me the result so I can see?03:34
kikostub, yes.03:34
jordicarlos: again, one person team, but as it's created I don't think it's worth adding him alone03:34
kikostub, sent -- it's a test run that takes 3h to run and then fails mysteriously03:35
spivkiko: Same error carlos is getting?03:35
kikospiv, exact same error. I've bounced to stub03:36
jordimpt: ping03:36
stubkiko: erm.. where is all the output? That pqm response is tiny?03:37
kikoI'm afraid that's all I got. 03:37
kikoand carlos' branch has the same failure03:38
kikotest_on_merge doesn't run with -vv03:38
kikoand so we don't know where it stopped03:38
kikostub, any chance you would like to merge and run that manually?03:38
kikoit's blocking everybody merging here03:38
stubtest_on_merge used to run with -vv 03:39
kikoI liked it03:39
stubIts pretty useless without it03:39
kikoplease re-add it, spiv and I agree03:40
carloskiko: I'm waiting much more time than you... my branch should be fixed first... :-P at least before your batch navigation changes ;-)03:40
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stubspiv: I'm going to have to kill your merge03:40
spivstub: sure.03:41
stubDid you know about this yesterday btw? If so, why am I only being told about it now?03:41
spivstub: is it possible kiko's test run segfaulted?  does pqm keep corefiles?03:42
carlosjordi: done03:42
stubspiv: I have no idea. I know next to nothing about pqm. I just belt it with a hammer occasionally.03:42
kikostub, I knew about it since early this morning03:42
carlosstub: we were debugging it this morning03:42
kikoI tried to contact you earlier, and SteveA called your sister in .au03:42
stubEmail can be useful.03:43
kikogood point!03:44
jordicarlos: cool03:45
kikostub, I suck with email when OOO though 03:47
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SteveAhello stub03:55
stubSteveA: yo03:55
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SteveAstub: various reports of the test suite running extremely slowly, particularly on hardware with less good disk IO03:56
SteveAmaybe since changing to postgres 8.103:57
kikoSteveA, no, I'm on 8.0.03:57
kikoand it is very slow.03:57
stubI suspect it is since the postgresql session machinery landed03:57
SteveAalso, various problems with the test suite running on balleny, and exiting strangely03:57
stubThis causes the database to be dropped after each story and after each standalone pagetest03:57
spivstub: In particular, for carlos it takes about 45 seconds to do the StartStory setup for the page tests.03:57
SteveAsession machinery?03:58
spiv(on my system, it's more like 8 seconds)03:58
SteveAas in, web sessions?03:58
stubSteveA: yes. Although that doesn't have anything to do with StartStory taking 45 seconds. That sounds like a lack of ram, possibly due to 8.1 or possibly due to different default settings with 8.1.03:59
SteveAi'm wondering whether 8.1 does more sync()ing by default04:00
carlosstub: 1.5GB of RAM here04:00
SteveAor something like that04:00
stubSteveA: Possibly. I don't think createdb performance is something upstream bother to optimize.04:01
stubIn any case, there is nothing we can do about it in the short term except stick with 8.1 on those workstations.04:01
stuberm... 8.004:01
kikoI doubt it's 8.1, again04:02
carloskiko: did you timed how many time does it take on your laptop to get the DB SetUp done?04:08
kikonope04:09
kikoit is slow but not 45s04:09
carloskiko: that's the point, perhaps with 8.1 it gets worse04:11
stubStick an 'import pdb; pdb.set_trace()' in setup routine in test_pages.py and step through it. We will then know what is taking time rather than needing to guess.04:12
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carlosstub: doing it atm...04:16
SteveAstub: i missed from :04:17
SteveASteveA i'm wondering whether 8.1 does more sync()ing by default04:17
SteveAcarlos stub: 1.5GB of RAM here04:17
SteveASteveA or something like that04:17
SteveA* Disconnected ().04:17
SteveA04:17
SteveAkiko is certain that it isn't specific to 8.1, as he sees problems on 8.004:17
stubkiko has a different problem04:18
carlosSteveA: I'm debugging the setup method now to discover where the problem is04:18
mptjordi, pong04:18
stubor at least a scaled down version.04:19
mptstub, when you have time, could you query the DB and mail me a list of upstreams that are using Malone?04:19
mpt(as measured by the "uses Malone" flag)04:20
jordimpt: I forgot04:20
jordidamn, what was it04:20
carlosstub: FYI, kiko and I have the same computer, the only difference is the amount of memory. He has 512MB and I have 1.5GB. Don't know if that helps04:20
mptjordi, it was two minutes after you asked carlos about -br translators04:20
kikowelll, tbh, I don't care about local test speed right now -- I want PQM!04:22
stubmpt: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/filevAYwRa.html04:23
stubcarlos: have you stepped through the setup yet?04:24
stubSteveA: You had other things you wanted to talk about?04:24
carlosstub: I pressed c instead of n04:24
carlossorry...04:24
carlosLaunchpadFunctionalTestSetup().setUp() is taking most of the time04:25
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stubcarlos: I suspect it will actually be PgTestSetup inside there (possibly two more layers down)04:29
carlosstub: yes, it is04:29
carlosI'm already there04:29
jordimpt: no idea04:30
jordimpt: nm :)04:30
carlosstub: CREATE DATABASE at lib/canonical/ftests/pgsql.py:200 is taking around 30 seconds to be executed04:32
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stubok. we can't optimize that. If you look at top while that is happening, I think you will find the time is all spend running 'cp'.04:33
carlosI guess so04:34
carlosstub: as my hard drive gets crazy while it's being executed04:34
carlosstub: I get a security warning with make schema and 8.0, that's why I moved to 8.104:35
stubcarlos: Actually, you might be able to get away with turning fsync off in /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/postgresql.conf. If your laptop powers down unexpectedly you might need to repair your database, but potential dataloss isn't an issue if you are just using PostgreSQL for launchpad development04:35
carlosstub: do you think if I move back to 8.0 I will be able to develop launchpad or the tree is not working atm with 8.0 ?04:35
carlosstub: hmm that seems like a good idea...04:36
stubcarlos: Launchpad still works with 8.0 AFIK04:36
carloslet's try fsync disabled first...04:37
stubcarlos: Make sure you restart PostgreSQL 8.1 after changing the setting04:38
carlosstub: it's much better now. Only 15 seconds using pdb04:38
stubcarlos: ok. You might want to experiment with just 'cp' on your laptop compared to others. You might have a particularly sucky drive, or some hdparm option needs to be enabled.04:39
carlosstub: 5 seconds running without pdb04:39
kikostub, hdparm doesn't work on our SATA drives04:40
carlosstub: I have a know issue with hard drive performance04:40
carlosstub: but it didn't became a big issue until now04:41
carlosstub: thanks for your help04:41
stubcarlos: feel free to make a note about fsync on the DatabaseSetup wiki page. If your database corrupts (should only be possible if PostgreSQL does not get to shutdown cleanly), recreating the cluster as per that wikipage will get you going again.04:42
carlosstub: ok04:43
=== stub wonders if he should use that option on balleny...
carlosstub: that would speed up pqm.. I suppose it depends on the way pqm setups the database....04:46
stubsame same.04:47
carlosso if balleny goes down, pqm gets stalled...04:47
SeveasDoes anyone know when the LP maintenance will be?04:48
mptstub, thanks04:52
stubSeveas: not yet. Any opinions?04:52
stubcarlos: maybe not. PostgreSQL is pretty good at recovering from stuff like that. But it becomes a possibility.04:53
carlosstub: I would say... let's test it and revert it if we have problems...04:54
Seveasstub, 2nd dapper meeting is at 18:00 UTC, I'd prefer after that meeting04:54
Seveasthe wiki wa used briefly during the first meeting04:54
stubSeveas: yup. it won't be today anyway, so no probs.04:54
Seveasgreat04:55
Seveasthanks for taking this into account 04:55
carlosSeveas: I guess that was a chinese or japanese character, right? It's a wonderful way to do smiles :-P04:56
Seveashehe04:56
carlosstub: can I resubmit my merge request? or should I wait?04:57
stubcarlos: Resubmit away. Might as well get it in the queue.04:57
carlosstub: done.05:00
stubkiko: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileOGGWrS.html05:06
kikostub, I have never seen that before -- is something wrong in the database setup on balleny?05:07
stubI don't think so. Never seen what?05:07
kiko    ProgrammingError: ERROR:  permission denied for sequence distroreleasepackagecache_id_seq05:07
kikostub, which tree is this? and could you add -vv to test_on_merge?05:08
stubSomething is trying to insert into that table. Which is bad, because the only thing with permission to insert into that table is the statistician.05:08
kiko    warty.updateCompletePackageCache()05:09
kikoare you sure about that?05:09
stubCheck security.cfg05:09
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stubWhat is odd is that the test succeeded at all05:10
kikoand the other one succeeded as well05:10
kikoand is now failing05:10
kikoin all trees05:10
stubThat wasn't the first failure anyway05:11
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stubI suspect that call to updateCompletePackageCache has been succeeding because nothing has actually needed to be done before. But now perhaps it is being victimized by an earlier test.05:12
kikoyes, that may be possible.05:13
kikostub, and so carlos' branch is also failing on a test?05:13
stubNo idea - haven't looked at carlos' branch05:13
carloskiko: mine, and mpt's one and spiv's one05:13
kikoheh05:13
kikoso it appears that make check is not outputting errors at all 05:15
stubI'm removing that test anyway - it is pointless (the method is called, but results are not checked. We do more testing of that method in the statistician tests)05:16
kikostub, I think the failures there are a red herring05:17
kikospiv is pointing out correctly that the tests didn't finish running when being run via pqm05:17
kikostub, have you added the -vv flag to the test invocation in PQM?05:17
kikooh, sorry, just saw it.05:18
stubkiko: It will land in my merge, which is first in the queue05:18
stubkiko: Looks like the earlier test may be relying on ids being the same each run, which we can't actually do.05:18
stub(or can we? I can't remember if we are resetting sequence id numbers even when we don't destroy the database)05:19
kikostub, the earlier test is actually right in failing, because I had added sampledata05:19
stubkiko: ok.05:19
kikostub, if you like I can fix the latter test as well, or, well, you say you have, right?05:20
stubkiko: I'm just committing and will land it with my merge05:20
carlosstub: I suppose that means that all merge request will fail until your new branch gets merged, right?05:22
kikookay, perfect.05:22
stubcarlos: mine is at the front of the queue05:22
kikopossibly already merging05:22
stubnope05:22
stubpqm is still disabled05:22
kikooh you pqm haxor05:22
stub(from me running your tests)05:22
carlosstub: I'm talking about the test that you are disabling05:22
carlosooh, I see05:22
carlosstub: dude, you are the king of the cheaters....05:23
carlosWhen I grow, I want to be like stub :-P05:23
kikoevery day I wish I was stub at least once05:23
stubNone of you have the follicles for it05:23
kikoI am working on it05:24
bradbThere's been some follicle follies at this sprint05:24
mptNow I remember why I stayed off IRC yesterday :-P05:27
kikompt, because the network was down?05:28
mptwell, that was one reason05:30
carlosstub: fsync option added to the wiki05:33
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  test_on_merge.py needs to issue verbose output (r3259: Stuart Bishop)05:49
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kikothanks stub 05:50
kikonow for carlos' wait05:50
cprovstub:  I have a DB patch almost ready, please don't go before look on it, okay ?05:50
stubBetter hurry. It is almost midnight and I might turn into a pumpkin.05:51
carlosstub: If my merge request works now... I will need it cherry picked05:53
cprovstub: ehe, sure05:53
carlosstub: I will send you the details by email to do it tomorrow, don't worry05:53
stubcarlos: Ta05:53
carlosstub: or well, if you do a production rollout... the cherry pick will not be needed05:53
cprovstub: bzr push, must work faster here 05:53
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carloscprov: I think it's my fault... I'm pushing a new branch....05:54
stubcarlos: I'd rather not rollout head05:54
carlosstub: ok05:55
carlosstub: kiko asks 'Why not?'05:55
stubok. my merge is through. All subsequent merges should get -vv output on failures (unless there is too much output and mailservers refuse the emails...)05:55
carlosstub: thanks for that05:56
stubBecause most of the time when we rollout head we find nasty bugs that need fixes made and cherry picked in a hurry.05:56
carlosok05:57
cprovstub: it's in PendingReviews, cprov/launchpad/small-fixes, new PPA tables and constraints fixes, patch 98 & 9906:03
carloswhy do we keep getting pyme with rocketfuel-get?06:07
carlosshouldn't it be removed from the rocketfuel mirror?06:08
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jameshcarlos: I thought I submitted a dists merge to fix that, but I might have forgot06:11
mdzcarlos: your branch landed OK?06:13
carlosmdz: I guess it didn't as dilys didn't say anything....06:15
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mdzsaw it in PQM before and gone now06:16
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carlosmdz: it failed06:17
kikojamesh, you didn't then06:17
carlosmdz: I don't understand why, but seems like a change that is not yet merged affected it :-?06:18
carloskiko: dude, I hate your branch!06:18
mdzcarlos: nooooooo06:18
carlosmdz: at least I get an error now...06:19
carlosmdz: so I hope it will be merged today06:19
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carloskiko: ok, It's my fault. Seems like I did a change after the test system started to be completely fucked and thus it was not detected....06:24
jameshkiko: I did06:25
kikommm06:25
jameshkiko: the problem is that config-manager uses the working tree on chinstrap to build rocketfuel-built06:25
kikoah06:26
kikothat is no good06:26
jameshkiko: but when pqm does a merge and push to chinstrap, it just updates the .bzr directory, leaving the working tree as is06:26
KinnisonSo we just need to do a bzr revert in the tree before invoking cm?06:27
jameshyeah06:28
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jameshor checkout the dists tree and work from that06:28
jbaileyHey'all.06:29
kikoyo jeff06:29
jbaileymvo and I are looking at https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/17470706:29
jameshit'd probably be a good idea to get rid of the stale working trees for stuff under /home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/06:29
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jbaileyI don't see the updated python-vte in breezy-updates for amd64, even though it was built on the 20th.06:29
carlosjordi: hi, around?06:29
mvowe are wondering where the python-vte package from that build ended up06:31
mvoit seems to be not in the archive06:31
kikoKinnison, can you take a look at that for us please?06:32
jordicarlos: yes06:34
carlosjordi: I told mark about your idea of coming here to work on dappers imports approval06:35
carlosjordi: he said it's a good idea06:35
jordiaha06:35
jordiwhich day?06:35
carlosjordi: so I guess if we get my branch merged today, and stub merges it into production tomorrow you could come when you get some free time at the l10n sprint06:36
carlosjordi: I will confirm If I get my branch merged today06:36
mvoit's very odd, because the python-vte package is build fine in the buildlog 06:36
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jordicarlos: ok06:41
KinnisonOkay, so the queue indicates that it's all done06:42
KinnisonAnd a quick locate indicates it's in universe06:43
Kinnisonmvo: /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vte/python-vte_0.11.15-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb06:43
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mvoKinnison: thanks. 06:43
Kinnisonmvo: Can you guys check universe before asking in future?06:44
Kinnisonthis is about the fourth one of these "Oh my god, where is it?!?!?!?!?!?!" alerts I've investigated and they've all resolved as "it's in universe, ya daft git"06:44
Kinnison:-)06:44
mvoKinnison: I'm very sorry, it is in main in dapper, that caused my cofusion06:44
Kinnisonmvo: s'okay06:44
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Kinnison:-)06:44
mvojbailey: hm, this is a problem for the dist-upgrader :/ let's continue talking about this in ubuntu-devel06:46
Kinnisonmvo: We should sort out signing the dist-upgrader tarballs06:48
cprovKinnison: good point06:48
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jbaileyKinnison: Since we had made it this far.  I'm wondering if there's a reasonable way to make it clear on this screen that things went to universe.06:48
mvoKinnison: yes!06:48
Kinnisonjbailey: "this screen" ?06:49
jbaileyLike, if it's a common question, perhaps we should solve it a different way.06:49
Kinnisonmvo: What do you want signed and where do you want the sigs?06:49
jbailey<jbailey> mvo and I are looking at https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/17470706:49
jbaileyKinnison: The resulting binaries are listed to the right.  Perhaps they should have the component listed next to the name in () or something?06:49
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Kinnisonjbailey: If you think it needs to be on the build page too, please file a bug06:50
jbaileyKinnison: I'm hoping for an opinion before I randomly file a bug.06:50
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jbaileymvo: Do you think that would've helped you?06:51
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jameshmvo: make your browser window wider06:53
Kinnison:-)06:53
jameshcontent area overlapping with portlets06:53
mvojamesh: it's about as width now as my screen can do06:53
jameshbecause of long "build log" url06:53
mvoif I make it insanely wide (1.5 times my screen) it works06:54
KinnisonHmm, perhaps we need to make _s breakable in librarian links06:54
Kinnisonmvo: What size is your screen?06:54
jameshmvo: on my computer, the "python-vte ..." link is clickable past the end of the build log URL06:54
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mvo1024x768 (epiphany)06:54
KinnisonDo you have insanely huge fonts or something?06:54
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jbaileyBy "insanely huge", you mean readable ;)06:55
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jbaileyBut widescreen.  So not an issue here for that problem.06:55
Kinnisonjbailey: do you have your DPI set properly?06:55
jbaileyKinnison: YEs.  I keep larger fonts so that I don't have to wear reading glasses.06:55
Kinnisonjbailey: heh06:56
jbaileyI'm *old*, remember?06:56
KinnisonI guess.06:56
jbailey;P06:56
mvoKinnison: well, if 12pt is  "insanely huge" then yes :P06:56
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jameshjbailey: maybe you could get laser eye surgery.  Then you could use smaller fonts06:56
=== Kinnison volunteers to run the laser
Kinnisonzzzzzzzzzzzzap!06:56
jbaileyjamesh: My wife got that done.  She went from -9, -9.5 diopters with an astigmatism in each eye to 20/2006:56
Kinnisoncrikey, that was effective06:57
jbaileyjamesh: Mostly my problem is eye strain caused by staring at screens too long and bad florescent lights.06:57
jbaileyjamesh: The simpler solution is to reduce the eye strain. =)06:57
jbailey(Where too long is.  mm.. 27 years.)06:57
jameshjbailey: I'm sure they've got lasers that can fix that these days06:57
jbaileyjamesh: The green ones.  Full intensity.  Never have to worry about eye strain again ;)06:58
jbaileyjamesh: Seriously, I could probably get the -1 corrected, but it doesn't make sense.  I'll wait another 10 years.  My father's vision started to degrade around then, and see if I can get something done.06:58
jbaileyIn the meantime, large fonts make for interesting accessibility testing.06:59
jameshjbailey: if you want to have fun testing accessibility, find the bsod gnome theme06:59
jameshit makes things blue06:59
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Fix backwards logic in test suite hang detection in test_on_merge.py. (r3260: Andrew Bennetts)07:06
kikowoohoo!07:06
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=salgado]  Fixes bug 3002(Malone messes up comment formatting). (r3262: Matthew Paul Thomas)07:52
carlosjordi: dude, cross your fingers, the import queue fix is the next one on the queue07:57
jordihehe07:57
jordigo dilys 07:57
carlosjordi: no, go pqm!08:00
jordidilys is the messenger.08:01
jordiif it doesn't go well, we kill dilys08:01
carlosjordi: also, BjornT just told me how to prefill the forms so it would simplify our work, I will try to have it implemented and reviewed tomorrow08:02
jordioh man that's good news for tomorrow08:02
jordiactually I think that we should get started on that after that's in08:02
jordiit will make our time a lot more productive08:02
carlosjordi: I know08:04
carlosjordi: that's why I'm going to concentrate on it as next task08:04
jordicool08:05
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=BjornT]  Import queue reimplementation and many export fixes to close bug #33020. It adds -vv to the test run to debug the problems I'm having to merge this branch (r3263: Carlos Perello Marin)08:15
dafwooooooooo!08:15
carlosjordi: you see that???08:15
carlosfinally!08:15
daf\o/08:15
carlosmdz: it's done08:15
dafmdz has left the building08:16
carloswrong comment... but finally, it's merged08:16
Martolodthanks jordi :D08:16
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jordiMartolod: np! :)08:20
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jordicarlos: so, neewd to decide if tomorrow or later09:02
jordiif that feature will be in on thursday, it might be worth09:03
jordiwaiting09:03
jordiwe gotta go09:03
jordilaters09:03
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carlosjordi: dude, Akan plural form information was already in our database....11:31
jordicarlos: it didn't work, for some reason11:37
jordiI was getting oopses when trying to translate to ak11:37
carlosjordi: are you sure it didn't work for ak instead of ak_IN?11:37
carlosjordi: dude, an opps doesn't mean we are missing the plural forms11:37
carlosthat's a bug11:38
carlosnot missing information...11:38
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jordicarlos: try translating to "co"11:40
jordihttps://launchpad.net/products/xqf/+series/main/+pots/xqf/br/+translate11:40
jordithis was oopsing hours ago11:40
jordinot now11:40
jordihttps://launchpad.net/products/xqf/+series/main/+pots/xqf/co/+translate11:40
jorditry that11:41
jordino plural forms, oopses11:41
carlosjordi: ok, the problem was that with the rename of ak to akk the plural form was also moved....11:41
carlosjordi: I see, I didn't know that bug was produced just loading the page11:42
jordii can file a bug11:42
jordiI found out these days :)11:42
carlosjordi: we have a bug already for that bug11:43
carloshmmm11:43
carloschange the first 'bug' with 'report'11:43
jordioh11:43
jordiright11:43
jordiok11:43
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