=== jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] heya Spec , 'sup? [12:03] LaserJock: I did debuild -sa , still did not produce the orig. [12:04] sivang: debuild -S -sa [12:04] err [12:04] the hour :) === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] LaserJock: hrm, debuild hates me. I added this and still no orig. [12:09] LaserJock: anything specificin the packages' strucutre I may be doing wrong to not get it? [12:09] LaserJock: (I did debuild -S -sa) [12:09] sivang: oh wait, doh. I see it [12:10] sivang: you created a debian native package. [12:10] sivang: that means everything is in the tar.gz file [12:10] LaserJock: is that bad? I think I want native debian package no? [12:11] sivang: well, it sorta depends. [12:11] LaserJock: please, explain if you can, I'm listening. [12:11] sivang: well, a debian native package has the debian/ directory in the source [12:12] sivang: so if you want to distribute your app to other distros it is a bit messier [12:12] sivang: any change in the packaging requires a new .tar.gz file [12:12] HomeUserBackup sounds like a good candidate for a native package, though [12:13] would it be useful on non-Ubuntu/Debian systems? [12:13] i dont see how anything is a candidate for a native package, tbh [12:13] azeem: I agree. I just wanted to put out the pros and cons [12:13] it isnt really any easier to work with imo [12:14] sivang: if don't do a native debian package then the packaging part (debian/ etc.) is separate from the actual app source (which is in the .orig.tar.gz) === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] sivang: it makes things a bit cleaner IMO and as tseng says it can be easier to work with since you can update the .diff.tar.gz without messing with original app source [12:16] azeem: could be a gnome upstream package someday, I hope. I just need to add dar as a depdency to setup.py [12:16] LaserJock: yes, indeed. [12:16] LaserJock: I'm sold, how to convert it? [12:17] azeem: could be useful on any system which has the right version of python , glade and gtk and dar ofcourse. [12:17] then it might make sense to convert it, yes [12:17] debian-mentos FAQ also suggests it as a better approach [12:22] sivang: so do you have a tarball of the source without the debian/ directory, etc. [12:23] LaserJock: I can create one [12:24] sivang: ok, do that [12:25] sivang: but make sure to save the parts that you take out [12:26] ofcourse, everything I Have under bzr rcs :-) [12:27] yay bzr [12:27] sivang: ah, good [12:27] tseng: sweetness === dolzzzon is now known as dolson === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-10-146.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] LaserJock: okay, I have a source tar.g [12:41] tar.gz [12:42] sivang: ok, so what is it named? [12:44] LaserJock: upbackup-0.0.1.tar.gz [12:45] sivang: ok, so now copy that to upbs_0.0.1.orig.tar.gz === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] sivang: and then untar the .orig.tar.gz [12:47] LaserJock: where in? [12:48] sivang: where it is [12:49] LaserJock: done [12:49] sivang: ok, so what is the untarred directory called? [12:50] LaserJock: darn, like the original name upbackup-0.0.1 [12:50] LaserJock: but I can change my pakcage to that name, it's not biggy [12:50] sivang: well, whatever [12:50] LaserJock: then I drop the debian dir inside and debuild -S -sa? [12:50] yeah [12:51] cool, I think I got it. [12:51] LaserJock: thanks. [12:51] sivang: np === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] hi marcin` === Erlang [i=neumann@toronto-HSE-ppp4000837.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] someone needs to fix the proftpd packages to deal with /var/run/proftpd being missing after a reboot [01:04] LaserJock: hi [01:06] TerminX: go for it :-) === redguy [n=mati@adp217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] hi [01:07] hi [01:07] I just wanted to ask if there are any efforts on bringing the last.fm player into ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask? [01:08] what's the proper way to deal with that? modify the init script to create it (because even if the daemon is started from inetd/xinetd, the init script still runs to say "proftpd is started from inetd")? [01:09] redguy: you might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates It looks like it might be on the list [01:10] LaserJock: indeed. [01:11] thanks! [01:12] np [01:12] there's one more question I would like to ask. How are menu entries managed in ubuntu? It seems that the "menu" debian package only manages the Debian tree of the menu. How are menu items supposed to be added in the gnome or kde menus? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] redguy: the freedesktop.org standard .desktop files are used by gnome and kde [01:14] hmm, so "menu" is deprecated? [01:14] redguy: basically, yeah === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] redguy: if you drop a .desktop complaient file under /usr/share/applications it will appear in the menu accoording to the catagories you specified. [01:25] thanks guys === theCore [n=alex@Toronto-HSE-ppp3785508.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] sivang: how goes home-user-backup? ;) [01:37] Spec: fine, will be uploading a package soon, so you could join me and help. and I do need help :) [01:38] what language are we dealing with? [01:38] Spec: python [01:38] oh thank god [01:38] Spec: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/upbackup--main/ [01:38] that's the only language i can program half-decently, but even then, i'm not that good of a programmer [01:38] Spec: branch it, as I don't update the working tree there [01:38] Spec: how much experience do you have? [01:38] probably not enough to be all that much of a useful asset [01:38] i've been to pycon a few times [01:39] Can't say I've ever used bzr though :p [01:39] Spec: well, any other good experience is okay. I didn't know python bottom-up , but being long time pro0grammer I just got addicted for the batteries included and how easy is to do certain stuff in python [01:40] Spec: the complex parts, are ofcourse possilbe, if however take a little longer. [01:40] Spec: bzr is so cool and easy. [01:40] Spec: http://bazaar-vcs.org/IntroductionToBzr [01:40] i've heard [01:41] but isn't merging branches a bitch? [01:41] Spec: depends :) [01:41] no, it's rather simple usually [01:41] it's very simple by UI, and it helps if you know around yoru code [01:42] (for resolving conflicts etc) === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] but if three people are working on three branches and do, let's say, 3 weeks of work each, then merge it all together...it's still easy? [01:44] Spec: you can never remove the need for developers to communicate [01:45] ah, okay :p [01:45] Spec: if they don't break one another's work yes, and if they make sure to pull from each other before cotninue work [01:45] so, bzr branch [01:45] no system can solve stupidity :) [01:45] ajmitch: indeed :) [01:45] that seems pretty complex :p [01:45] ajmitch: darn :( [01:45] Spec: think in O(n^n) ;-) [01:46] LaserJock: I wish bzr would write code for me too.. [01:46] yeah, ...why does't it? === ajmitch will bbl [01:50] err, i'm getting an error sivang [01:50] bzr: ERROR: Error retrieving http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/upbackup--main/.bzr/revision-store/49/sivan%40ubuntu-20060111153425-0658effc5cefdb6e: [01:51] although it connects at first, and seems to download some stuff [01:53] Spec: ah, soprry, I'm currently updating the branch [01:53] Spec: better retry later [01:53] Spec: and I'm using the sftp plugin which allows locking [01:53] weird that it gives that sort of message [01:55] ah, ok [01:56] almost there [01:56] loading revisions 168/248 0:01:43 [01:59] Spec: done, retry === pietrus [n=pietrus@c925bcc0.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] so what's the state of this? [02:01] err, nevermind, i still get an error === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] Spec: talk to you tomorrow, sorry, gotta hit bed. [02:13] yeah, i haven't slept in two days [02:14] Spec: oh god, that's not good. [02:14] Spec: night! [02:14] spring break ended [02:14] work had to be done :-/ === bddebian [n=bddebian@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] hello MOTUs [02:39] Hello minghua [02:39] hi bddebian! see you around quite often recently, coming back for ubuntu work? :-) [02:40] bddebian, I heard you are one of those GNU/Hurd freaks :P [02:40] I should be :-) Probably not much until Dapper + 1though :-( [02:40] Kyral: Aye :-) [02:40] bddebian, I've been wanting to try it on this laptop [02:41] Kyral: Not a good idea if you want network support :-) [02:41] but I heard laptop support for it is where Linux was 10 years ago :P [02:41] I'm about to try GNU/Solaris (Nexenta) [02:42] Cool, I was looking at that [02:42] I'll let you know how it goes [02:42] I mean I think my wireless card is gonna be a PAIN [02:42] it uses the ACX drivers === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] Heya crimsun [03:09] heya bddebian [03:11] crimsun: How well do you know qt-x11-free? [03:12] bddebian: about this well: > < [03:12] (not well) [03:12] :-( [03:13] packaging or code issue? [03:13] Both :-) [03:19] ick, the worst of both worlds :) [03:19] crimsun: Well the code issues I can get around. The build thing, I can't figure out :-( === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua goes home. be back later. [03:25] bddebian: it's good to see you again [03:25] tritium: You too brudda [03:26] How ya been? [03:26] Same old. You? [03:26] Pretty much. Was busy as shit at work for a while :-( [03:27] I am too. [03:27] yeah, everytime it seems there might be a breather, stuff hits the fan again [03:27] 'lo tritium [03:28] hi crimsun :) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] if a package version is "4" and I want to do a rebuild for unmet deps is "4-build1" ok? === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] 4build1 isn't it? [03:39] 4build1 [03:39] ok === bddebian remembers something, WOW :-) [03:39] of course :) [03:39] no dash since there isn't a package version [03:39] right? [03:39] bddebian: you are the man :) [03:39] heh [03:50] bmonty: no, BddebianIsGod [03:50] Noooooooooooo === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hi minghua [04:15] hello bmonty [04:20] brb === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:53] guys im getting hdd errors in dmesg that says 'ata5' 'ata7' etc [04:54] how do i find out what disk that actually refers too? [04:57] Isn't that equivalent to hda5, hda7, etc? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] what do they align to in /sys/block/ ? [05:11] gn8 motus [05:58] Night MOTUish people === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nate_ [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] maybe someone here can help, I'm trying to customize an ubuntu installation CD for creation of a college-specific computer forensics ubuntu distro and I was wondering if anyone knows of any good docs for ubuntu's implementation of d-i and specifically the setup of preseed files? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] hi nate_, the only preseeding doc I know about is Debian's, and I have no idea if it applys to Ubuntu or not [06:32] minghua, i appreciate the reply. I've been through their docs and found them lacking and was really looking for any of those well-hidden gems of docs some people have in their bookmarks :D [06:33] nate_: there has doc on wiki for remarster install cd [06:33] freeflying, yes, but it doesn't explain the install process or the various preseed file directives [06:33] freeflying, except in very general/generic terms [06:34] nate_: you can use oem preseed [06:35] Anyone know how to get the serial out of a hard drive? sata? [06:35] in /sys i can find the vendor and model adn everything but not the serial [06:36] freeflying, i've looked through it, but it's still not very helpful. Thank you for trying though [06:36] nate_: I assume you know the link http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed then [06:37] minghua, i can look that over, but i'm really looking for ubuntu's implementation [06:37] minghua, i don't know how much they differ [06:37] nate_: I don't either [06:37] nate_: sorry can't help much [06:37] minghua, alas! woe is me! :D [06:38] nate_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo [06:39] freeflying, yeah, working with that already, but I want to understand the installation and the preseed files and whatnot, so my customization isn't haphazard, and so troubleshooting isn't a nightmare [06:40] someone on ubuntu-boot pointed me to a VERY useful doc (well, so far): http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ [06:40] just now === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb219-75-72-99.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F3309.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-092-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0DDA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] morning [08:52] dholbach: good afternoon :) === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-76-112.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec_ [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] hiu all [09:58] hi zakame [09:58] hello dolson [09:58] hey zakame === Jobman [n=Jobman@acer4001.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] hello freeflying , whazup? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@212.123.212.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-152-1-40-63.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freetux [n=dapper4@rc137-1-82-233-159-138.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freetux [n=dapper4@rc137-1-82-233-159-138.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Jobman [n=Jobman@acer4001.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] evening [10:56] heya ajmitch === ajmitch missed the start of the meeting, though not a lot has been happening :) [10:59] sounds to me like there isn't really a thought to not delaying [10:59] it's more of a "don't worry, the delay is Good" thing [11:00] yeah [11:06] either way we've got a *lot* of work to do on universe [11:13] yay [11:13] heh === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] Hi, MOTUs. I want to help/contribute. Can anyone tell me how to start? [11:21] hey Jobman - nice to hear! :) [11:21] in the current phase of the release process we are mostly fixing bugs and getting things work [11:22] http://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs for example is a list of bugs that are assigned to our team [11:22] and there are quite a bunch of packages that are not installable at the moment - we're trying to sort them out as well [11:22] apt-cache -i unmet might give you an idea [11:24] dolson: I'm tempted to do the WPA thing myself, since it'd be nice to have :) [11:25] Jobman: help is always welcome :) [11:25] yeah, i'd like wpa to be working, i struggled with that for a long time [11:25] wpa works perfectly fine as-is [11:25] as long as you know how to set it up [11:26] the issue is mainly integrating with NetworkManager, and porting a lot of the NM 0.5 patches to 0.6 [11:26] it's not a simple task :) [11:27] ajmitch: go for it [11:27] you got sabdfl's approval [11:27] hah === ajmitch uses WPA exclusively at home [11:27] dolson: ok, well spread the word that a contribution will make it happen [11:27] in case you missed it :D [11:27] yeah I was reading the meeting === ajmitch didn't feel it was necessary to volunteer myself in there :) [11:28] heh [11:32] plus it's the sort of thing that has to pass mdz's approval for UVF exception, feature freeze exception, etc [11:32] not simple === nate- [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] dholbach, what was that link to the upgrader? [11:35] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html [11:35] on my laptop now [11:37] now the meeting channel turns into a general free-for-all :) [11:37] ajmitch: you use wpa at home? May I use you as guinea pig? ;) [11:38] siretart: sure, what are you planning? [11:38] ajmitch: we improved integration of wpasupplicant in ifupdown a lot [11:38] this has to be tested [11:39] ajmitch: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-wpa/branches/wpasupplicant-0.5/?rev=0&sc=0 [11:39] this is our svn of the wpasupplicant-0.5 branch. [11:39] i struggled with wpa and never got it configured properly [11:39] great, I'll fetch it [11:39] I'm testing this if this works somehow and plan to have it uploaded to experimental as soon as I get it working on my laptop [11:39] and if someone else could confirm it works, even better [11:40] ajmitch: thanks. you help us a lot! === ajmitch goes to break his laptop === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] checking out === Jobman also uses WPA @ home [11:41] argh [11:41] siretart, i can try it out for ya, i'm about to upgrade to dapper, is that neccessary? [11:41] I permanently broke CTRL+L in xchat-gnome apparently [11:41] nate-: I don't have any binary packages prepared your, you will have to check out the svn manually and build it yourself in dapper [11:42] nate-: the supplicant itself works for me on dapper, but I haven't tested the integration scripts yet [11:42] see the README.modes file === DapperDrake [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] siretart, well, just hit me up if you need me to test any of that, just stating i have a guinea-pig system for ya [11:44] nate-: cool. that'll be great [11:44] siretart: I don't have a current sid setup on my laptop to test in debian [11:45] testing in dapper should be adequate for a start? [11:45] ajmitch: you'll have to rebuild it manually anyway [11:45] I'm building [11:45] I'm just uploading binaries [11:45] install: cannot create regular file `debian/wpasupplicant/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf': No such file or directory [11:45] *cough* [11:46] wpasupplicant.dirs? [11:46] http://siretart.tauware.de/wpasupplicant holds binaries built in a dapper chroot [11:47] ajmitch: err, huh? [11:47] siretart: debian/wpasupplicant/etc wasn't created, so install failed [11:47] intersting why it doesnt fail for me.. hmm [11:48] siretart: btw if you have time I have a UVF exception report written up for f-spot again [11:48] l [11:48] ajmitch: I'll do that tonight, I need to leave now [11:48] alright, thanks [11:49] hm. I don't think that file should be installed at all, btw [11:49] just comment that install out [11:49] cu tonight. [11:49] ok, see you later === dolson is now known as dolzzzon === ajmitch had better sleep now also, night all [11:50] later ajmitch [11:50] and siretart === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F3CFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaschW [n=LaschW@dyndsl-085-016-033-017.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaschW [n=LaschW@dyndsl-085-016-033-017.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-209-160.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] hi siretart [01:30] the handling of "driver_file" in wpasup is kinda annoying me, is its aim to be user configurable? (not admin) [01:30] no, its location rules that out . . . === Jobman [n=Jobman@acer4001.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@97.Red-83-58-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tetris [n=nshoes@213.78.64.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] hi people === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@p5483F786.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] Hey gang === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] howdy === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jobman [n=Jobman@p508E7F1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] Morning MOTUish peoples [04:28] Heya Kyral === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] i just announced a HUG DAY on Friday [04:35] hope you'll all going to be there === nate_ cries === Kyral hugs dholbach [04:36] so we get up to scratch with Universe again === G0SUB will be there dholbach [04:36] oh not that kinda hug lol [04:36] ROCK [04:36] Oh well, I'm not on my main box, but I can traige like crazy [04:37] dholbach: what's the timing for the Hugs? [04:37] friday all day [04:37] G0SUB, 5 per minute if youre good [04:37] yah I haven't been checking my mailing list email [04:37] fine [04:37] channel? [04:37] what does HUG stand for? [04:37] #ubuntu-bugs [04:37] ty ogra [04:37] ogra: I will manage 1 per 5 minute :) [04:37] hehe [04:38] I'll go on a triaging spree like you have never SEEN [04:38] nate_, its another word for embrace [04:38] ogra, wow.... [04:38] there will be no untriaged bugs in LP when I get done with it [04:38] haha === Kyral pulls out a case of Bawls [04:39] hehehe Caffine :D [04:39] # Unconfirmed (6858) [04:39] # Unassigned (3959) [04:40] yah I'll target those [04:40] Kyral, that would be quite impressive if you'd manage to get it down to zero in one day :) [04:40] ogra, that should look good when I go for MOTU lol [04:40] "Reduced the number of untriaged bugs to Zero in one day" [04:40] hehe, you'd be MOTU HC [04:40] HC? [04:41] honoris causa :) [04:41] ...translation? [04:41] < === Just woke up [04:41] (latin and means MOTU by honor) [04:41] ah [04:41] actually wait.. [04:42] I just woke up *looks at his stomach* [04:42] yah thats what the sound was [04:42] get dressed man !!! [04:42] No I'm dressed [04:42] heh === Kyral goes to download a current LiveISO [04:44] ..good god cdimage is slow... [04:46] Yes :-( [04:46] Does Kernel.org mirror us yet? [04:47] I know I get awesome speeds from Kernel.org [04:48] Actually....whats that Debian program that determines the fastest mirror for you? Apt-Spy? === mat|work [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:55] hmm [04:55] we could easily adapt apt-spy to work with Ubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-250.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-209-160.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] I think I've fixed at least one unmet dep (enigmail-locales). So what sould I do next? Upload to REVU? [05:13] do you need to get permission from the developers of a package to maintain a package of it? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] nate_: no, but it's good to let them know, that you're working on it [05:14] hey LaserJock [05:15] hi phanatic [05:15] Yeah for a HUG Day! [05:16] phanatic, and how do i go about applying to have a package added to the repos?? I'm really surprised it isn't actually [05:16] LaserJock: :) [05:17] G0SUB: I sent the list (with a few deletions) of science related apps to the lp admins so that the MOTU Science team will be added to the initial bug contact list [05:17] nate_: do you mean getting permission from upstream? or ubuntu devs? [05:17] LaserJock: oh, that's great [05:18] phanatic, ubuntu devs i suppose, i'd like to see it in breezy [05:18] nate_: there is no way to include a package in breezy [05:18] slomo: what di you change to autopano-sift? [05:18] nate_: what is the package? It won't be in breezy and it probably can't make Dapper either [05:18] its development cycle has closed [05:18] hub: it's using gtk#2 now [05:19] LaserJock, pyflag [05:19] slomo: ah ok [05:19] hub: just some Makefile patching [05:19] slomo: okay [05:19] bddebian: hows it going [05:19] Busy man, you? [05:19] slomo: I thought there was another bug [05:19] busy [05:19] but less than you, I guess [05:20] LaserJock, ubuntu has all the dependencies and there is a package that has already been made by the pyflag people that works just fine [05:20] nate_: nobody has put it on the Candidates list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates) [05:20] hrm [05:21] nate_: and I don't see anything on REVU [05:21] hello MOTU's [05:21] ;-) [05:21] hi netzmeister [05:21] LaserJock, so....how can I go about getting it added? [05:21] nabend? netzmeister [05:21] nate_: add it to that wiki page [05:21] nate_: can you package it? or you need someone to get it packaged? [05:22] hi phanatic, hi LaserJock [05:22] hi slomo :-) [05:22] phanatic, i can package it [05:22] hi netzmeister [05:22] nate_: follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New [05:23] exactly :) [05:23] crimsun: ah, yeah. good page [05:27] kk, got my own name now :) [05:27] natroll: :) [05:32] so it's too late to add a package to breezy or have it added to dapper? [05:32] hmm :-) [05:32] so i would have to wait until the next release? [05:33] natroll: quite possibly [even with the probable 6-wk delay] [05:33] natroll: the packaging work can be done anytime [05:34] crimsun, that doesn't seem right...but what do i know. i suppose it could conflict with something and make testing a nightmare === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] natroll: well, you can't add anything to breezy period; it froze almost 5 months ago [05:35] wow, didn't even know that [05:35] natroll: dapper is possible but fairly improbable [05:36] what would make it more probable? [05:36] natroll: Dapper hasn't been released yet [05:36]