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frank23PsyberOne: its equivalent to a reinstall12:00
clem_yeatsMaxus : some kind of Samba client..12:00
SeveasPsyberOne, impossible12:00
oklinuxI was using debian before using ubuntu my hd crashed on me.12:00
wweaselCould someone please help me with setting up wpasupplicant? I am following the instructions on a HOWTO but am running into trouble.12:00
PsyberOnei was afraid of that12:00
brennersmellican, oklinux: debian-based12:00
MaXuSow i was looking in the filebrowser at connect to server.12:00
kameron!tell firstent about xgl12:00
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, malone is a component of launchpad12:00
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wweaselI get the error message "Failed to read configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'." even though I have made that configuration file.12:00
oklinuxbrenner debain-base ?12:00
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dispanserwweasel: do you have read permissions on that file?12:01
smellicanit's debian :P12:01
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clem_yeatswweasel : is there sufficient permissions ?12:01
lokihaving issues getting an ms optical wireless mouse working properly (it moves, but it constantly brings up the right-click menu in fluxbox and the buttons are dodgey). The keyboard works fine though? I've tried all the protocols in xorg.conf (now using ImPS/2). would this be an X thing or a kernel thing?12:01
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robertjhow do you turn an .mp4 into a video dvd?12:01
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brennersmellican: tell that to the guy who tried to dist-upgrade from sarge to breezy12:02
smellicanLOL12:02
clem_yeatslol12:02
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smellicanbrenner, it uses apt-get...it's debian for all intents and purposes :P12:02
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smellicanoklinux said it best:  easier debian12:03
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wweaseldispanser, no I didn't. It was root only. I figured it was OK because I was accessing it using sudo, but from a root terminal it works now.12:03
clem_yeatsI wouldn't said easier... I'd say preconfigured, ready to use Debian.12:03
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wweaseldispanser, how would I change the permissions on it from a terminal?12:03
Sanneoklinux, this explains it nicely: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship12:03
frank23robertj: there is a program called   tovid  that does that.  takes any format and converts to dvd12:03
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Travis_what package do I need to make apache2 have SSL? so like https://?????????12:04
dispanserwweasel: chmod +r <filename>12:04
Makarakican I get12:04
dispanserthis sets the read permission (for yourself)12:04
SeveasTravis_, libapache2-mod-ssl12:04
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fdsfsdfI ned some help : My internet connection won't work at all even tho my cards are detected :(12:04
Makarakifrank_: are you there?12:04
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frank23Makaraki: yeah12:04
Travis_thanks12:04
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Wizz_kiddhow cna i install and DL gksudo ?12:04
Wizz_kiddgk12:04
robertjfrank23:  is that packaged?12:04
MakarakiI don't know why they log me out....12:05
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Travis_root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl12:05
Travis_Reading package lists... Done12:05
Travis_Building dependency tree... Done12:05
Travis_E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl12:05
nilewis it just me that has problems with rt2500 on my wifi?12:05
frank23robertj: no. google for it12:05
Wizz_kiddmy packamager isnt working casue its not there12:05
robertjhttp://tovid.berlios.de/12:05
frank23Makaraki: its because you pasted a bunch of lines12:05
SeveasWizz_kidd, if apt-get install ubuntu-desktop didn't install it, you have bigger problems12:05
SeveasWizz_kidd, in which case you'd better simply reinstall12:05
Wizz_kiddwell the apt install thing12:05
dispanserwweasel: but you will probably want to do: chmod o+r because you want to allow read permissions for other users (that's what the 'o' is for)12:05
robertjfrank23: it does hvae one!12:05
Makarakifrank_:I tried a lot of time to join but ubuntu doesn't allow me12:05
gileswhow do i change the default app to run files?12:05
Wizz_kiddtried to install from the CD12:05
gileswi want to use vlc for videos12:05
gileswnot totem12:05
Wizz_kiddand i guess those sectors of the CD is corrupted12:05
Wizz_kiddhow cna i dl and install it form the internet ?12:06
frank23Makaraki: yeah you were banned for a while12:06
Makarakifrank_: I think there are a special way to give you the error report with a special paste12:06
Seveas!tell Makaraki pastebin12:06
Seveas!tell Makaraki about pastebin12:06
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robertjfrank23: but thanks12:06
Wizz_kiddSeveas, kknow what i mean ?12:06
frank23robertj: np12:06
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SeveasWizz_kidd, remove the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list12:07
Makarakiso many things for a newbie but I wil tri12:07
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Travis_Seveas what other package could it be?12:07
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Travis_root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl12:07
Travis_Reading package lists... Done12:07
Travis_Building dependency tree... Done12:07
Travis_E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl12:07
SeveasTravis_, do NOT paste in here12:07
Travis_k12:08
Wizz_kiddcan i do a apt from the internet ?12:08
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brennergilesw: right-click media file>properties>open-with tab12:08
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frank23Makaraki: give me the pastebin link when you you paste the errors there12:08
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Makarakiok12:09
redguyWizz_kidd: sure you can12:09
SeveasWizz_kidd, yes12:09
miveczupdate  manager  and  synaptic  crash  how i  resolve  these provlem12:09
Makarakifrank23: ok12:09
MaXuSis there a package for hdtv codec ?12:09
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ubtnwbhi12:09
b_e_n_zany xen (http://xen.sf.net) package for ubuntu?12:09
brennermivecz: run them in terminal.  you might get some errors12:10
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Knorriemivecz: what exactly did you do (or try to do) when it crashed?12:10
Wizz_kiddSeveas, could you give me thatapt code again12:10
miveczupdate  manager  start 2-3 seconds  after  disappear12:10
Wizz_kiddfor the ubuntu desktop  htingy12:10
Seveassudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:10
Wizz_kiddthanks12:10
miveczsynaptick is  workk   but  after12:10
miveczE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.12:11
mivecz<mivecz> E: Unable to correct dependencies12:11
ubtnwbsomebody can say me a dapper repository with decent transfer rate?12:11
freenodeswhen upgrading breezy->dapper, is that thru apt-gets or need reinstall?12:11
Knorriefreenodes: apt-get dist-upgrade12:11
dispanserb_e_n_z: i have xen-tools package in my repository, but i'm using dapper so i'm not sure about breezy users12:11
ubtnwbi am doing dist-upgrade and archive.ubuntu.com downloads at 10 kn/s...12:11
b_e_n_zdispanser, ic12:11
balu1how do i go about installing a new video card ???12:12
balu1its a PCI card12:12
Makarakifrank23: I'm not used to use the english lenguage and once I had already filed the form how to send it to you?12:12
miveczi use  kde 3.512:12
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brennerbalu1: take the old one out and put the new one in? :P12:12
kbrooksis ubuntu easy?12:12
Knorriemivecz: sounds bad, can you open a terminal, and type 'sudo apt-get update', and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and paste all output to pastebin.com?12:12
balu1brenner well its sorta diff..12:12
frank23Makaraki: just paste the link here12:12
NiskuPLater12:13
mikebotdoes anyone know why it is that sometimes in firefox it doesn't display images?12:13
maximausSeveas, I think I switched off cron when editing the run levels, would explain those files getting huge. LOL. Thanks, deleted files then touched them.12:13
smellicanwho knows why synaptic is giving this error on fluxbox install :     " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox12:13
miveczmivecz@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:13
miveczE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:13
miveczE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:13
balu1brenner:  i have a integrated gfx card on my mobo.  I want to install my 3dfx Voodoo card.. but when i installed it, xserver isnt starting properly12:13
Wizz_kiddey Seveas thanks for helping a Gnome n00b out that worked ;) thanks again12:13
firstentdoes any of u uses limewir?12:13
balu1brenner: so im not sure what to do.12:13
firstentdoes any of u uses limewire?12:13
mikebotanyone please?12:13
Seveasmivecz, don't paste in here12:13
Knorriemivecz: paste to pastbin.com, not here12:13
miveczok sorry12:13
brennerbalu1: did you try reconfigging xorg?12:13
gazanferi got an error while installing fluxbox, can anyone please help me?12:13
dispansermikebot: maybe you have activated the option to only show images from the same server?12:14
Makarakifrank: its called frank23: Azureus error12:14
oklinuxno just tequilla and lime firstent12:14
Knorriemivecz: first, close al other package manager programs, like synaptic12:14
balu1brenner: well i dno when to do that??? ive never installed a card in linux b4..12:14
miveczis  close12:14
mivecz:)12:14
brennerkbrooks: depends.  you usually have to buy her a few drinks.12:14
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miveczhow  can i  restart kde12:14
brennerbalu1: have you already put the card in and tried booting?12:14
miveczin terminal12:15
ompaulmivecz, ctrl + alt + backspace12:15
mikebotdispanser, well i saw the images  second ago, but now they don't appear12:15
balu1brenner: right. it disables xserver12:15
Knorriemivecz: why restart kde?12:15
balu1brenner: put my gfx card in, and x doesnt load..12:15
gazanfercan anyone help me about this error? i got it while installing fluxbox: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox12:15
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dispanserstrange. never seen that, sorry12:15
frank23Makaraki: I don't know. I can tell you how I installed azureus. the way you did it, the auto update won't work anyways12:15
mikebotit's okay12:15
Wizz_kiddiu like this gnome over kde seems more well put together12:15
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ubtnwba mirror to for archive.ubuntu.com with decent DL rate?12:16
Knorriegazanfer: b0rk3d packages....12:16
Makarakifrank23: Ok thanks again12:16
sethkWizz_kidd, i prefer kde.  it depends somewhat on what's important to you.  they each have advantages12:16
brennerbalu1: right.  you should get dumped to a prompt.  you should then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:16
gazanferKnorrie, what does that mean?12:16
Wizz_kiddwhat is a good music player for Gnome similar to amarok for kde12:16
miveczbefore  superkaramba crash  before  1-2 months someone  tell me  a  command to  restart kde and is  work ok12:16
Knorriegazanfer: packages shouldn't use the same filenames while not conflicting with each other12:16
miveczrestart for  terminal12:16
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Knorriegazanfer: that's debian policy12:16
sethkWizz_kidd, you can use amarok with gnome12:16
dispansermivecz: so your kde is currently not running?12:16
frank23Makaraki: download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.4.0.0_linux.tar.bz2?download12:16
Wizz_kiddsethk, i do more developing etc kde might be a little mroe user friednly but i like this a lil better12:17
Sanneubtnwb, there's a tool for finding the fastest mirror... apt-spy, I believe.12:17
miveczdispanser now kde is  running12:17
Wizz_kiddsethk, I was trying to keep things native ;)12:17
brennerWizz_kidd: banshee maybe?12:17
dispansermivecz: if it's running, why don't you just use the menu for a restart?12:17
sethkWizz_kidd, I'm a developer also.  I'm still trying to figure out how to resize windows with alt-right click in gnome.  I've heard that it's possible, but I haven't found the secret12:17
gazanferKnorrie, now what should i do?12:17
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miveczis now  work12:17
dispanserk12:18
gileswdunno why they don't use vlc as the default movie player..12:18
mivecznothing  i  do   33 times:P12:18
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Eleafhi12:18
gileswit just plays everything no hastle12:18
frank23ubtnwb: use a local mirror us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com12:18
Knorriegazanfer: remove blackbox, or tell apt to force things12:18
dispansergilesw: mplayer does that, too :)12:18
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Makarakifrank23: do I have to dpkg --purge azureus before?12:18
frank23Makaraki: yeah ok12:19
gileswk i'll try that12:19
gazanferKnorrie, weird thing is, i never installed blackbox :)12:19
gileswapt-get install azereus12:19
balu1brenner thanks, ill be afk for a few min..12:19
gileswoops12:19
gileswlols12:19
Stormx2gilesw: Wrong window :P12:19
gileswwhere's me xterm!12:19
Knorriegazanfer: dpkg -l | grep black12:19
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AnObfuscatorCan anyone help me figure out why I can't mount my IDE HFS+ drive? I keep getting a weird "unable to find superblock" error12:19
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dispanserAnObfuscator: what's the mount command you are using?12:20
gileswhmm it's not in me repos..12:20
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mivecz Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? (what is these?12:20
SAM_themanyo people12:20
Makarakifrank23: it is that correct after cheking with dpkg -l azureus : pn  azureus        <ninguna>      (no hay ninguna descripcin disponible)12:20
SAM_themanmy sound still doesn't work :C12:20
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brennermivecz: close synaptic12:20
mikebotdoes ubuntu come with another web browser besides firefox?12:21
frank23Makaraki: do a sudo apt-get remove azureus12:21
brennermivecz: w3m :P12:21
dispansermikebot: mozilla suite is installed, too12:21
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dispansermikebot: at least on my system12:21
mikebotdispanser, how do i open that?12:21
frank23Makaraki: mkdir ~/opt   and copy the file you downloaded to ~/op12:21
brennerdispanser: not on mine :-/12:21
gazanferKnorrie,  seems like you were right. i got blackbox installed12:21
mikebotdispanser, oh,..i don't see that under internet12:22
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dispansermikebot: then it's probably not installed... apt-get install mozilla12:22
Makarakifrank23: ok12:22
mikebotdispanser, thanks12:22
AnObfuscatorDispanser: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdc1 [mountpoint] 12:22
brennermikebot: what's wrong with ff?12:22
miveczbrenner  i dont  look  synaptic   no  where in desktop so   grrrrrrrr12:22
mikebotbrenner, for some reason, sometimes it doesn't display images12:22
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miveczi  close synaptic  maybe is  run   behind?12:22
ChodderIs there a way to use apt-get to remove all of gnome?  apt-get remove gnome is only going to remove the base12:23
frank23Makaraki: then   cd ~/opt    tar zjvf Azureus.filename12:23
dispanserAnObfuscator: that mount cmd looks good...12:23
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brennermikebot: is this 1.5 or 1.0.7?12:24
Knorriegazanfer: so there's a bug in the fluxbox package, because it should have a 'Conflicts' line against blackbox12:24
pramzhi12:24
ChodderBTW, im using kubuntu dapper, and i installed gnome but don't really want it anymore12:24
mikebotbrenner, 1.512:24
frank23Makaraki: if you speak spanish you can also try  #ubuntu-es  for spanish discussion12:24
mikebotbrenner, and like i'll see the images, but later i wont12:24
AnObfuscatordispanser: yeah, it's how I mounted other drives i've added. I get the HFS+ superblock error from dmesg12:24
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mikebotbrenner, like if i go to the page again12:24
dispanserfrom dmesg?12:24
TheUltimateWarriAnybody managed to install postfix with SASL?12:24
dispansernot on the cmd line? That's strange12:24
vincenzWhy can't the new totem-gstreamer not play any formats that totem-xine could... it just shows drawings of what is most likely an audio-display12:24
AnObfuscatordispanser: mount tells me to check dmesg12:25
KnorrieTheUltimateWarri: yes12:25
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TheUltimateWarriKnorrie, Any step-by-step directions available?! :D12:25
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gileswhmm mplayer looks nice but it goes crazy when playing12:25
gileswkeeps asking for pcm device 012:25
Stormx2gilesw: Just use Audacious :P12:25
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html ?12:26
dispanserAnObfuscator: hm, no idea, sorry.12:26
Makarakifrank23: I used tar jxvf instead of yours but It seems being well descompressed12:26
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: or isn't the answer to your question around there?12:26
miveczbrenner?12:26
RemyLaptophi guys: how do I add an application to start up ?12:26
miveczbrenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these12:26
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Let me take a peek and I'll let you know! :)12:26
AnObfuscatordispanser: thanks anyway12:26
frank23Makaraki: yeah. I made a mistake there ;)12:27
SAM_themani gives me this http://pastebin.com/60066712:27
SAM_themanI get that12:27
frank23Makaraki: cd azureus,  ./azureus12:27
KnorrieRemyLaptop: (gnome) system -> preferences -> sessions12:27
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I think that's the thing... But would you remember which Ubuntu packages you've installed to get it working?12:27
Stormx2RemyLaptop: Careful doing that though. it waits for the apps to finish before continuing... I think12:27
Psykusi'm having problems again with gnome starting to fail to refresh windows, and then freezing hard where I can't do anything...I asked in here before, and with help I determined it was being caused by some sort of network printer problem, I did something and was able to stop it from happening, but i've had to recently install ubuntu again, and it's started again. i've turned off printer sharing on the windows box it's connected to, and even disabled file/pri12:27
Psykusnter sharing altogether, yet it still keeps freezing. i've also tried killing the cupsd process12:27
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: what exactly are you trying to do, and what errors do /var/log/syslog show?12:28
SAM_themanTry openin termianl and type " killall gnome-panel  "12:28
Wizz_kiddwhat is a location i can use with apt-get that has Opera in it ?12:28
Makarakifrank23: well now its on the screen12:28
Psykusif I could figure out a way to uninstall cups without uninstalling the gnome-desktop package, I would12:28
Stormx2"Update your system using your favorite apt tool for the visible user password fix" <-- What is this about?12:28
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Psykusbut the package manager won't let me force it12:28
KnorrieWizz_kidd: you can use the .deb from opera.com, use the etch version12:28
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I just want that everybody not in 'mynetworks' could authenticate with their regular unix password to be able to use the smtp service.12:29
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frank23Makaraki: the program started?12:29
cafuegoStormx2: The breezy installer left the 1st user's password in a world readable file in /var/log/installer12:29
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: ok, that helps me to help :)12:29
Makarakifrank23: time to chek if it works ... he he a lot of thanks12:29
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, :D12:29
Stormx2cafuego: And you only just noticed? :12:29
Stormx2:P12:29
cafuegoStormx2: me?12:29
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frank23Makaraki: no problem. you installed as a user in your home directory so the auto-update will work this way12:29
cafuegoStormx2: No, I never had this problem.12:29
Stormx2cafuego: Well, *we* only just noticed12:30
Psykusif I kill the GUI fast enough when it starts to happen, I can save myself from rebooting12:30
cwilluanybody know of a gnutella client that has good/reasonable provisions for scripting?12:30
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johnny22khello all12:30
cwillupython or http bindings would be preferred :D12:30
frank23Makaraki: make a link in the menu for it somewhere to start it more easily12:30
Psykusbut once it freezes, I can't move the cursor or switch to virtual terminals12:30
Makarakifrank23: how?12:30
miveczbrenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these12:30
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: (clickety)12:30
frank23Makaraki: auto-update? it will be automatic12:31
miveczcan n ayone help me12:31
cwillu#gnutella12:31
cwillubah12:31
frank23Makaraki: if there is an update the program will tell you12:31
frank23Makaraki: oh the link12:31
brennermivecz: what command are you running?12:31
Makarakifrank23: I understand the utility it has but not how to create the link12:31
gileswE: Package azureus has no installation candidate12:31
gileswi got this but it say it's mentioned12:32
gileswi enabled every repo in the sources.list12:32
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frank23Makaraki: there is a menu editor for gnome. someone here should know about it. I don't use gnome12:32
dabearalacarte(old: smeg)12:32
miveczSudo apt-get  update  complete ok12:33
gileswhmm all 3rd party repos i add look for binary-amd64/Packages12:33
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miveczSudo apt-get  dist-upgrade12:33
Makarakifrank23: Thats good enough you help I will keep in mind12:33
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frank23Makaraki: no problem ;)12:33
gileswis there a way to specifiy i386 binaries?12:33
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techrushim gonna try to code a craps game in python12:34
techrushlol12:34
gilesweven though i'm runnin a6412:34
techrushgood learnign project i think :)12:34
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Makarakifrank23: I will search information about it, greetings from spain here its late and tomorrow time to work again...12:34
frank23gilesw: if you want to try that look in the forums for the chroot howto12:34
Jambonok random question: how are drivers implemented in linux?12:34
frank23Makaraki: later12:34
poromenoscan someone help me set up my dual head desktop? :/12:34
balu1brenner: it is asking me to select an xserver driver, im using a 3dfx voodoo3 2000, should i pick glide?12:34
mikebotbrenner, why do you use ff over epiphany?12:34
techrushjambon they are kernel modules12:34
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, 'Dovecot provides an alternative that may be worth considering.' - What do you think about that?12:34
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frank23!tell gilesw about chroot12:35
Makarakifrank23: hehe ok have fun man, ans see you here other day12:35
frank23Makaraki: ok. glad I could help12:35
wickershey, kinda off topic, but who here knows of a good ad placement company (like adsense) that's, well, not adsense?12:35
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brennermikebot: ff was already installed. :)12:35
mikebotbrenner, hehe okay12:35
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014512:35
Jambontechrush: ok. how does that differe from having a binary layer? I saw this discussion on slashdot a while back, and I'm wondering how Linux's implemenation of drivers may hinder people from making drivers for linux?12:36
brennermikebot: they both use the gecko engine don't they?  i guess i just prefer the interface12:36
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: dovecot is an imap server, it's not like postfix12:36
mikebotbrenner, yeah they do, okay12:36
Wizz_kidd8,000 emails on my server  damn shit12:36
brennermikebot: but i was a long time user of mozilla12:36
brennerbefore i switched to ff12:36
poromenoshow can i configure the X server to behave correctly on my dual screen setup12:36
poromenos?12:36
techrushjambron im not sure....sorry12:36
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mikebotbrenner, me oto, until it stopped displaying images12:36
brennerbalu1: i'm not sure to tell you the truth.12:37
gazanfersmellican, are you here?12:37
Jambonanyone else know about this?12:37
brennerbalu1: but you could always choose vesa as a failsafe12:37
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UltimateWarriorUltimateWarrior, Ok, I'm already running qpopper through inetd (pretty unstable, by the way) for POP3 access, which is all I want. I just wanted postfix to be able to authenticate users, the simplest way as possible.12:37
balu1brenner: actually i think i fiugerd that part out.. how do i figure out the PCI Bus ID??12:37
gazanferhow can i restart x server?12:37
dabeardoes anybody know where I can get binaries for the latest firefox development version?12:37
miveczi  give  up12:37
mivecz:(12:37
brennerbalu1: if you're unsure of something, the default is usually the right thing to choose (i.e. just press enter)12:38
brennerbalu1: but you could always run lspci12:38
balu1brenner: but couldnt it be picking up my previous integrated gfx card?.. how do i run lspci during x set up?12:38
cwillugazanfer:  ctrl+alt+backspace is an ugly way to force the issue12:38
brennerbalu1: you can't.  you'd have to quit the setup12:38
gazanfercwillu, it jumps to graphical interface in a second...12:38
poromenossomeone help me, ubuntu is displayed on the wrong screen :(12:38
cwilludabear;  check mozilla.org;  those builds will work, they're just a bit trickier to integrate completely into ubuntu12:39
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: the pastebin i just gave you is the way to get postfix to accept relaying outbound mail and checking passwds against the local /etc/passwd12:39
cwillugazanfer; did you want to shut it down or restart it?12:39
balu1brenner: ah i c. k well i ll figure the rest out by some trial and error.. gotta learn linux some way.. thanks man :)12:39
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brennermikebot: so epiphany works for you?12:39
cwilluctrl+alt+backspace will restart it, taking you back to the gui12:39
brennerbalu1: np good luck12:39
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Hmmm, got it! Thanks a lot!12:39
mikebotbrenner, hrm..i thought it did...12:39
Snake__Hey guys, where are the ubuntu irc log files at?....12:39
gazanferi think i need to restart it, but i dont know if atrl alt backspace works, because there should be a fluxbox option when i restart, its not there...12:39
cwilluoops12:39
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: i'm sorry it's a bit complicated, but hey... sasl is too complicated :|12:40
mikebotbrenner, when you go to amazon and click on a book and click look inside this book, do yous ee images?12:40
brennercwillu: not always in my experience.  he might have to login and type 'startx'12:40
cwillunvm the oops12:40
mikebotcause for me they aren't appearing12:40
cwillu(oops the oops)12:40
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dabearcwillu, Having problem finding anything newer than  1.5.0.1. I want to test the bleeding edge, not the latest stable..12:40
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frank23dabear: firefox 2 alpha came out I think12:40
cwilludabear;  look around for tinderbox or the nightly builds;  you should be able to find something on their dev site12:40
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: just look at the postfix lines in your /var/log/syslog to see whatever you forgot to do12:40
Snake__Oh comeone I Know someone here knows lol12:41
cwillugazanfer; elaborate on that;  you just installed a new wm?12:41
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naliothdabear: mozilla.org click on "developer"12:41
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brennermikebot: do you have a sample url?12:41
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Thanks, man! Indeed!12:41
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naliothSnake__: have you not already asked this?12:41
gazanfercwillu, yes. fluxbox12:41
Snake__nalioth: I have without answer...12:41
cwillugazanfer; there's an option on the login page to choose your session;  hit that, and you should see any new wm's in the list12:41
naliothSnake__: the site is down atm12:41
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: actually, i do things like that on debian servers, but ubuntu is the same way.. :)12:41
Snake__nalioth: alright thats all I needed lol12:41
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naliothSnake__: have patience, the logs aren't goin anywhere12:41
gazanferi did that, but its not there...12:41
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mikebotbrenner, yeah..12:42
gazanfercwillu, i did that, its not there...12:42
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, A little 'better', I'd say! :)12:42
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mikebotbrenner, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/041522862X/sr=8-1/qid=1142293352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2000169-1794258?%5Fencoding=UTF812:42
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: ahum, please don't start flame wars12:42
mikebotbrenner, and click on the picture of the book12:42
cwillugazanfer; sudo gdm restart should do the trick too, but I get the feeling fluxbox isn't installed right12:42
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cwilluor is it gdm stop followed by gdm start...12:43
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, okeedokee12:43
brennermikebot: i get a white box...12:44
brenneractually12:44
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: i, personally prefer debian on server and ubuntu on desktop, but ymmv and perhaps you have other thoughts ;)12:44
mikebotbrenner, and not text from the book, right?12:44
mikebotbrenner, it should be showing pages12:44
brennermike-e: the cover just loaded12:44
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mikebotbrenner, oh..odd12:44
brennerand i see text12:44
gazanfercwillu, how can i test if its installed right or not?12:45
mikebotbrenner, for me it says 'Done' in the bottom corner, and nothing loads12:45
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cwillugazanfer; I think you did, and it's not :)12:45
msttanyone know how to make icons smaller (gnome)12:45
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mstt?12:45
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brennermikebot: odd.  and i'm on dialup too!12:45
cwillugazanfer; one sec, I think I've installed it on mine, let me check what packages were involved12:45
judgenAnyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?12:45
gazanfercwillu, when i dpkg -l | grep flux, it shows up... doesnt that mean its installed?12:46
mikebotbrenner, oh,...i was forcing a black background12:46
brennermatt_: which icons?12:46
cwillunot if that's not the package that makes it work12:46
mikebotbrenner, and i guess this thing is a gif with the white part being transparent12:46
cwillulike installing gnome vs ubuntu-desktop :)12:46
balu1anyone here ever install a 3dfx voodoo3?12:46
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I completely 'moved' to Ubuntu when installing a DELL machine with a PERC controller or something like that and Debian required a lot of struggling with driver diskettes while Ubuntu would simply support it out-of-the-box... But as you said, your mileage may vary... ;)12:47
balu1wooot. got it. it worked :)12:47
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brennerbalu1: nice.12:47
balu1thanks brenner, go tit up and runnign, had tro change the pci slot12:47
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: true12:47
balu1it was picking up my integrated gfx card. had to manually put in the voodoo12:47
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judgenAnyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?12:48
brennerbalu1: by specifying the pci slot?12:48
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brennerjudgen: seveas' one might have it.12:48
naliothubotu: tell judgen about realplayer12:48
Knorriejudgen: don't repeat please, we have eyes, we can read12:48
mikebothrm, but epiphany doesn't load these images..odd12:48
mikebotoh there it goes12:48
mikebottakes quite a while12:48
brenner*nod*12:49
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judgenbrenner: what is  the deb url?12:50
MakarakiFrank23: hehe ejem... I have a problem12:50
brennerjudgen: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:50
brennerjudgen: i'm not certain they are in there though12:50
Makarakifrank23: Still you here?12:51
cwillugazanfer;  sorry, I don't have it installed;  I'd try removing it and reinstalling it though, also, run a google and see if you can find anything regarding fluxbox gdm integration12:51
frank23Makaraki: yeah. azureus is not working?12:51
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gazanfercwillu, thx12:51
SAM_themanwhat does it mean when u have a nvidia card with the "Binary Drivers"??12:51
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SAM_themanfrom ubutnu of nvidia's site??12:52
cwillugazanfer; also, you can try running a bare xserver, and then running fluxbox by hand pointing it to that12:52
KnorrieSAM_theman: the nvidia ones12:52
frank23SAM_theman: binary drivers give you 3d acceleration12:52
KnorrieSAM_theman: the 'closed source'12:52
SAM_themanso it's better?12:52
Knorriewel.... :)12:52
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The_Isle_of_Markhey all, anyone know of a good regex crib sheet out there?12:53
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frank23SAM_theman: if you need 3d yeah.  you can install them easily with synaptic12:53
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Man... After editing FSTAB to get SASL working I though 'Man, THAT's complicated!!' :o12:53
SAM_themanhow12:53
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark; the python regex docs are okay12:53
SAM_themani have the nv drivers from synaptic already12:53
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SAM_themanbut can't seem to run glx gears it's not giving me fps12:53
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark; I've also used sun's java docs, but they're much harder to find stuff in12:53
Makarakifrank23: its about sound , after closing the lastfm I can not listen to the sound of a youtube video12:53
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frank23!tell SAM_theman about nvidia12:53
Travis_how can I use AuthType Digest with apache2 on Ubuntu12:53
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: oh, but that's because saslauthd uses a unix socket and postfix is in chroot12:54
The_Isle_of_Markcwillu thanks, I'll check it out, just nee a quick guide when I am doing stuff12:54
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark; I've been unimpressed by the free standing tutorials I've found though12:54
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frank23Makaraki: I don't know that lastfm program12:54
brennerSAM_theman: glxgears doesn't print the fps by default12:54
SAM_themano12:54
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark;   python.org, 2.4 docs, module 're'12:54
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: a mount --bind can be more safe than not-chrooting postfix12:54
The_Isle_of_Markcwillu, I have been using the learning perl oreilly book, but it is a pain since I dont have it in e format12:54
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I get the point, but let's agree that this step adds a lot of 'complication' to the whole thing! :D12:54
SAM_themancause when i play my games i have alsome fps but no sound12:54
frank23!glxgears12:54
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"12:54
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sure.12:54
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: yeah, it's not really excellent documented12:55
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark; are you doing stuff online?  i.e., trying examples as you see them?12:55
SAM_themandon't know whats up with my sound12:55
cwillubest way to learn 'em12:55
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, What do I need to restart to get the whole thing working? I guess I'll have to mount that mountpoint and restart postfix, right?12:55
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Makarakifrank23: it also hapends when for exemple I am listening to rhythmbox ans after closing the music player the youtube videos or thevideo google not sound12:55
gazanfercwillu, i removed and reinstalled fluxbox and it worked :)12:55
SAM_themancan u just help me on this on to12:56
cwillugazanfer; yay!12:56
SAM_themanits about my sound12:56
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: mount /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd12:56
Stormx2how do I check what apps are listing to what ports?12:56
The_Isle_of_Markcwillu, when I need them I use grep or sed to check them, etc. I sometimes have to write some complicated searches so I just want a quick reference12:56
frank23Makaraki: sorry I don't know12:56
cwilluThe_Isle_of_Mark; no better way to figure out what match(r"(?:foo)bar(baz)", "foobarbaz") actualy does :)12:56
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: sudo invoke-rc.d postfix restart12:56
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The_Isle_of_Markcwillu, right12:56
Ads_Hello All! ^_^12:56
UltimateWarriorI've mounted the shorter string :D -> 'mount /var/run/saslauthd'12:56
gazanfercwillu, now can i remove gnome and everything related to it?12:57
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: if you want to use TLS also, you got to have ssl certificates12:57
The_Isle_of_Markcwillu, I use sed for testing mostly...gotta love sed12:57
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o|AhfeeLhi all12:57
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: thats ok12:57
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cwillugazanfer; depends on if you want whatever gnome integration fluxbox has or not12:57
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Not sure what TLS is about. Is SASL enough for plain simple password authentication?12:57
Makarakifrank23: well man no problem thanks again becouse azureus is working quite goog12:57
ahFeelcould someone help me ? i need to create the /dev/tun0 device to set up a VPN12:57
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SAM_themanhttp://pastebin.com/60070612:57
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ahFeelbut i don't have any idea of how creating this device :/12:57
cwilluahFeel; look up mktun12:57
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: yes it is, but the passwords travel in 'plain' text over the internet12:58
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Also: What's the big deal about invoke-rc.d? I always run /etc/init.d/service blahblah...12:58
SAM_themanthats what i get when i try to play music or my games12:58
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: so blah tcpdump... ethereal etc etc12:58
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ahFeelcwillu ? a lil more details please ? :)12:58
gazanfercwillu, i dont know what you mean (im total noob), but im pretty sure i will not use anything related to gnome anymore.12:58
ahFeelis it a command ?12:58
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: it's almost the same12:58
MakarakiHi people I can not listen the audio from the youtube or videogogle after closing an audio player why it hapends?12:58
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d is the 'official' way12:58
Wizz_kiddwhat are some sources ......i dont have many avalibale applications in my synnaptic12:58
cwilluahFeel; what vpn are you using?  openvpn?12:58
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Hmmm... And is it a pain-in-the-@$$ to get TSL working?12:58
Wizz_kiddlike no gnomebaker etc12:58
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Got it. Let's switch to the official stuff, then!12:58
ahFeelahhh ok cwillu12:59
ahFeeli saw in the help12:59
IdleOneWizz_kidd>  wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories12:59
cwillu:p12:59
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ahFeeli'll try to go on on that12:59
ahFeel=] 12:59
ahFeelthank you man12:59
cwillugazanfer; you can try removing it, if things break you should be able to reinstall ubuntu-desktop to fix it12:59
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: depends... it's handy to know things about ssl, certificate authorities etc12:59
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SAM_theman!soundproblems01:00
ubotusoundproblems is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:00
!lilo:*! Channel hint.... in addition to the various existing channels on web site design and standards, a new group, on #httpcraft, a channel for friendly and knowledgeable assistance to folks putting together web sites. I think they'd like your help in growing a bit. :)01:00
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cwillugazanfer; unless you're running on a 300mhz with a 500MB hard drive, it's probably not worth it (imho)01:00
Rubinwhat exactly is the difference between the stock kernel.org kernel and an ubuntu one?01:00
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Ok. So I'd have to generate keys and stuff like that? What about client configuration after doing that?01:00
rob138what would cause all my repositories being 404 not found?01:00
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: but there are lots of howto's on the web about creating a simple self-signed cert01:00
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: eg http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html01:00
Rubini need to build a 2.6.16 kernel should i try to patch it with ubuntu?01:00
Ads_Hello all, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.01:00
cwillurob138, paste your sources.list (use the pastebin)01:00
cwillu!paste01:00
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.01:00
Wizz_kiddIdleOne, where are the repsositories?01:00
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gazanfercwillu, thx again. bye all01:01
cwilluRubin; I believe there are packages in synaptic with the ubuntu patches already applied01:01
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IdleOneWizz_kidd>  you need to enable universe and multiverse. follow that link I gave you01:01
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Rubincwillu: i need 2.6.16 specifically, and its not in there yet01:01
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Cool. By the way, how can I test the authentication now? I'm familiar with 'telnetting smtps' but I don't have a clue about how I'd authenticate on it...01:01
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: the client doesn't need configuration most of the time. fetchmail won't complain, thunderbird etc users will see a dialog telling them if they want to trust your server01:01
b33rhow can I install java?01:01
rob138where is my sources.list?01:01
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IdleOne!java01:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:01
ReadTopicForTimeI'm so psyched for tomorrow's meeting01:02
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b33rty01:02
IdleOnerob> /etc/apt/sources.list01:02
IdleOnerob138> > /etc/apt/sources.list01:02
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: fetchmail?01:02
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: ow no01:02
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silvaranRubin: There was a wiki post on digg awhile back on compiling your own kernel (with or without ubuntu patches--I'm afraid you're going to have to go without), I'll see if I can find it.01:02
cwilluIdleOne; gotta love it when completion requires more keypresses than just typing the thing in the first place :)01:03
rob138cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014701:03
IdleOnelol yeah01:03
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: erhm... using a mail client and configuring smtp server with a login is the most simple i guess01:03
jdmpike2hello01:03
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I think I'll just set up something like that, thanks.01:03
felix_hi, i am searching for the command to run Open Office writer in terminal ? can someone help01:03
Rubinsilvaran: i know how to do it, with. just curious if i need to keep anything in mind when going without01:04
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: on the cli... i used to use esmtp01:04
slynuxhey I need install the  libqt-mt.so.3 library01:04
LucasArrudaPeople, is there a way to install Dapper Drake from a LiveCD with a ISO on a ReiserFS?01:04
jdmpike2when is Dapper RC going to be released?01:04
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Last, but not least... I'm having some weird behaviour with qpopper/inetutils-inetd. It just becomes unavailable after a while, then I have to restart inetd. Any suggestion?01:04
cwillurob138; are all the repositories giving 404's, or just some/most?01:04
mikeo1hmmm01:04
silvaranRubin: Well you're going to lose stuff like linux-restricted-modules (including the nvidia stuff) which you'll need to add back on yourself if you have an nvidia card... if you're using ndiswrapper you're also going to have to compile it yourself (for the ndiswrapper module).01:04
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: no, i never used qpopper01:05
cwillurob138; next, do you use a proxy?01:05
felix_How cna i run Oowriter from console ?01:05
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Kyralfelix_, oowriter?01:05
silvaranRubin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835 lists some of the gotchas.01:05
Rubinthanks01:05
rob138some/most, i am also cannot connect to gaim, and had to ping irc.freenode.net before connecting to irc, i think there is something wrong with my computer figuring out adresses01:05
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felix_doesnt work :\01:05
cwillurob138; finally, can you enter any of the url's in firefox and have them show up?01:05
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felix_command not found01:05
slynuxHi b33r, I can help you step by step01:05
mikeo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014801:05
rob138i am on a wireless router (not sure about proxy)01:05
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Kyralfelix_, uhh, go to Menu Editor and find out what command the Menu Entry is runnign?01:06
judgenhaha i just tried to install ksirc from dappers repo and now im apperantly upgrading the entire system =P01:06
cwillurob138; paste the output of "host -v archive.ubuntu.com"01:06
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: without TLS(encryption) dont use the TLS section from main.cf, and dont use smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes01:06
cwillualso, what model/type of router is it?01:06
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slynuxHow I can refresh the Ubuntu Bredzy to Dapper, I can't01:07
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Thanks a lot!01:07
firstent!c01:07
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firstent01:07
rob138cwillu, what part of it?01:07
firstent!c++01:07
cwilluthe whole thing01:07
cwillupaste bin it01:07
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Do you suggest anything to replace qpopper?01:07
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: when using tls, be sure tlsmgr is uncommented at the bottom of /etc/postfix/master.cf (no problem :)01:07
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Ads_people, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.01:08
judgenslynux: just rename every instance of breezy to dapper in the sources.list and then type "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade"01:08
silvaranslynux: Followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:08
cwilluAds_; firefox open?01:08
Wizz_kiddwhy isnt Opera in any repsotitory01:08
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judgenWizz_kidd: it is01:08
Ads_yes cwillu01:08
Wizz_kiddwhat one01:08
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: i dont know, if you want to use /var/spool/mail to collect incoming mail in mbox and just have some users who pop it from there...01:08
stoatanyone know how I can get my rtl8180 wlan card going on a PPC laptop?01:08
cwilluAds_; check how much vm and resident its using (top in a terminal)01:09
rob138cwillu, i can get the repositories if i first ping them in the terminal, as with most sites,01:09
silvaran!tell Wizz_kidd about opera01:09
Ads_ok cwillu01:09
cwillurob138; I really need to see the host -v archive.ubuntu.com :)01:09
rob138sure, one sec01:09
slynuxI did this but I had Erros01:09
cwillurob138; and what brand of router is it?  :)01:09
Wizz_kidd opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser01:09
cwillupay attention dammit :p01:09
Wizz_kiddthoght u saiud it was in the repos01:09
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: i use Cyrus IMAPd for imap access most of the time, also for virtual hosting, with accounts that don't exist in /etc/passwd01:10
silvarancwillu: ;)01:10
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: but cyrus is also a @# in the #@% for the first time01:10
cwilluAds_; if it's more than 200Mb virtual or so, and things get immediately better when you "pkill firefox" from a terminal (which kills it)01:10
rob138cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014901:10
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Yeah, I wouldn't like to concern about Maildir and all that stuff... Just something that offers POP3 to the regular mbox thing.01:10
cwillurob138; thx01:10
cwillurob138; one sec01:10
Ads_cwilli thats fine, it does it any too01:10
Ads_anyway*01:11
Wizz_kiddhow cna i install a .deb file01:11
judgenplenet penguin racer rox! =)01:11
Wizz_kiddsorry for sounding like a n00b01:11
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: there are lots of pop3 daemons outta there01:11
silvaranWizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i <pkg>.deb01:11
cwillurob138; it's a problem with your router; it's screwing up the dns resolution just enough to confuse apt-get01:11
cwillu!1.0.0.001:11
ubotu101:11
cwillubah01:11
Wizz_kiddwjat dir will that point 201:11
cwilluwho deleted that01:11
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rob138cwillu, what should i do then?01:11
cwillurob138; what type of router is it?01:11
silvaranWizz_kidd: Current directory.. so cd to where your deb file is (opera-....deb) and do a dpkg -i opera-....deb01:12
cwilluI really want to know :)01:12
silvarancwillu: sudo apt-get install nmap :)01:12
cwillulol01:12
mikeo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014801:12
rob138cwillu, what should i do then?01:12
cwilluand I still am looking for a good solution for override dhcp's dns setting in resolv.conf01:12
rob138oops01:12
Ads_device ra0 activated but no lights on my wireless card are flashing and its not showing any activity for the network :(01:12
rob138cwillu, it is an actiontec01:12
cwillurob138; .... :/01:12
cwillu:p01:12
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Wizz_kiddthanks silvaran01:12
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: http://www.openwall.com/popa3d/ looks nice01:12
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I'll check them out. Strange... My mail client is asking for the SMTP password (as expected) but the password doesn't match, though I'm SURE it's right. I've just selected the client's option to use the same password it uses for POP3. :'(01:12
silvarancwillu: Can you pass parameters to dhcpcd via the /etc/network/interfaces file?01:13
cwilluokay, go into the router configuration page, and look around to figure out what your isp's dns server is01:13
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: syslog01:13
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d saslauthd start01:13
rob138cwillu, do i need the username/password?01:13
lechuck_can anybody tell me what's better: server hosting at /srv or /var ... never had /srv earlier01:13
cwillusilvaran; the best I've seen so far is to do an 'up' action to add the data to resolv.conf;  I really don't like that though because if they ever fix it, you'll start getting a huge resolv.conf file01:13
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=== mikeo1 wonders how to fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10148
cwillurob138; probably admin|admin or admin|<blank>01:13
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silvaranAhhh...01:14
cafuegolechuck_: it makes exactly _no_ difference.01:14
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lechuck_thx01:14
cwillusilvaran; I've usually been getting people to just use a static address, but I don't like doing that either01:14
rob138cwillu, no luck with those two01:14
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silvarancwillu: Yeah, I feel your pain, I was trying to help him out earlier, but couldn't figure anything out...01:14
stoatany wifi gurus around?01:14
James_hello01:14
cwillusilvaran; I know the problem, it's just complicated by the behaviour of dns and dhcp :)01:15
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cwillusilvaran; his router is mangling the dns packets it passes through, just enough to confuse apt01:15
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Nwallinsso... i was trying to follow some instructions from /. on how to fix the cleartext passwd...  one step was 'sudo passwd base-config' but got error message 'Unknown user base-config'01:15
tabby_Does postgresql-8.1.3 need an additional source to install?01:15
cwillusilvaran; the major symptom is the warning message you get when you do a 'host <some host name>'01:15
silvarancwillu: Can I see that output?01:15
jdmpike2I CAN'T WAIT FOR DAPPER!!!01:15
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cwilluhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014901:15
soronOk, I managed to do something stupid.  I deleted the entire Gnome Panel and now can't figure out how to get it back.01:15
cwillu;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.01:16
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silvaranAhhhh...01:16
rob138cwillu i got in!01:16
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Ads_any link to a decent guide on using ndiswrapper anyone?01:16
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cwilluyay!  look for a status page;  might end up going through every page on it01:16
Nwallinswhat's the sound of a thousand hands wanking?01:16
rob138i'm on the status page, and see two dns servers01:17
logical_markSo is XGL ever going to get to the point that it is not a pain in the but to setup?01:17
silvaranThis room got blue really quick.01:17
cwillurob138; your looking for "dns server" or "name server" or something along thos lines01:17
jdmpike2where are things in the trash can actually stored?01:17
jdmpike2I need to delete them01:17
cwillulogical_mark; -->#ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-xgl01:17
silvaranjdmpike2: Right-click, Empty Trash :)01:17
rob138cwillu, dns #1 and #2...01:17
millenium_handI dont know what is the sound of a thousand hands wanking01:17
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cwillurob138; what are the ip addresses?01:17
bluesignhi all, what does eject command do ?01:17
Nwallinsmillenium_hand: it's louder than the sound of one hand clapping01:18
tabby_ok i need to upgrade my postgres to 8.1.3 (from 8.0.3). apt-get doesn't recognize that package though01:18
UltimateWarriorKnorrie,  warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied01:18
silvaranjdmpike2: Seriously, ~/.Trash, but you should be using the trash can icon.01:18
rob138205.171.3.65 and 205.171.2.6501:18
Eleafwoaahh01:18
intelikeyok i guess i need help with 'alsa'  anyone game ?01:18
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jdmpike2silvaran, it won't let me delete a few things01:18
tabby_is this not compaitble with ubuntu?01:18
jdmpike2silvaran, so I am going to cd into it and rm -r01:18
cwillurob138; k, one second, I'm going to see if I can find a better fix than the one I'm about to tell you :)01:18
Eleafrob138, those are my dns servers... o.o01:18
Nwallinstabby_: open synaptic, search for postgresql, and see what's available01:19
logical_markcwillu, thanks01:19
intelikey   alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"01:19
rob138heh01:19
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Toma-is there a wiki for kernel build?01:19
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: adduser postfix sasl01:19
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Nwallinstabby_: most likely, it hasn't been packaged for ubuntu proper.  there may be a 3rd-party package01:19
silvaranToma-: Try FindPage on the main wiki, there's also a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=5683501:19
bimberiToma-: yep, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto01:19
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Adding user `postfix' to group `sasl'... Done. <- Is that what you wanted?01:20
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: yes01:20
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Toma-thanks bimberi i was looking at this page but thought it was a bit iffy...01:20
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tabby_okay that's helpful! thanks01:20
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: drwx--x---  2 root     sasl     1024 2006-02-12 18:54 saslauthd01:20
blrichcan someone help? KDE won't start because it says it can't find the .DCOPserver_myhost file. this is after a bad reboot, so I assumed it was some sort of lock issue - I deleted all the lockfiles I could find, the existing .dcop_myhost file, everything in /tmp, but still it won't work and comes up with the same error at startup. what do i do? I'm in a real bind01:20
Toma-i guess ill just use my ownm source step01:20
Nwallinstabby_: np01:21
Ads_firefox sucks tits :(01:21
bimberiToma-: ah, kk, can only vouch for its existence, not its quality :)01:21
Toma-hehe :P01:21
farouscan some one tell me how would who and w produce that no users are on the system. Then all my sounds were muted and i got a 2 users using the system while only one was and i did not have any terminal opened at the time?01:21
NwallinsAds_: accuweather.com, the website for the forecastfox, will crash firefox if you load the animated radar overhead01:21
blrichcan anyone help? please?01:21
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NwallinsAds_: well, it won't crash immediately, more like a slow death spiral that consumes all your RAM and CPU01:22
abhorsenOk, can anyone help me out here?01:22
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sorry man, what did you mean with that? The saslauthd binary?01:22
Ads_nwallins, i see01:22
NwallinsAds_: sorry, just venting my ff frustrations, too :)01:22
intelikeyblrich the lock file will be in  ~/.kde/01:22
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: no, just to show that to use the saslautd socket, a process has to be in the sasl group01:23
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intelikeyor some sub dir01:23
Ads_nwallins, its ok lol01:23
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blrichintelikey: deleted everything i could find in there too, still has the same error01:23
silvaranmikeo1: "Please set the correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script"01:23
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, So if my saslauthd is owned by root.root I'd have to chgrp it to sasl?01:23
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: hmmmm01:23
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: wait a moment (getting complicated lalalala :P )01:24
intelikeyblrich perhaps a 'clean' reboot would find it for you ?01:24
abhorsencan someone help me?  I was trying to install second life with their new linux installer, but I am new to Ubuntu, and linux, and I got this error:  2006-03-14T00:17:28Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!01:24
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Yeah, sorry to ask so much info...01:24
abhorsenWhat does that mean?01:24
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UltimateWarriorBy the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P01:25
blrichintelikey: i would do that, except i can't run 'reboot' from the commandline kdm has provided for me. everytime i try sudo or sudo su it says 'can't lookup yourhost' and it wont work01:25
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Nwallinshmm, why do i have a user 'irc'?01:25
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, By the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P01:25
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naliothNwallins: are you running an irc server?01:25
Nwallinsnalioth: no01:25
IvaldiThere's alot of traceroute entries showing up in my firestarter events log. should I be concerned?01:26
Nwallinsnalioth: home folder shows /var/run/ircd01:26
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intelikeyblrich there it the problem 'hostname is not set.'  so  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    and reboot the thing from there.01:26
Toma-you have an irc server installed01:26
Nwallinsnalioth: which doesn't exist01:26
abhorsencan someone please help?  Im sorry to be a pest, But it seems noone is talkin to me. . .01:26
NwallinsToma-, nalioth: /var/run/ircd doesn't exist01:26
Toma-Nwallins: did you install an irc server at some point?01:27
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naliothNwallins: i'm not good at mysteries, perhaps Toma- can help01:27
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blrichintelikey: ctrl+alt+f1, like, break out of kdm?  how do i set the hostname, it *says* the hostname, it just can't 'look it up' according to the error01:27
NwallinsToma-: maybe.. i'm pretty sure i haven't01:27
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Just rebooted the f machine... Sometimes it just fixes everything! :D01:27
Toma-Nwallins: what time/date was it created?01:27
NwallinsToma-: i have a debian box that functions as a server. ubuntu is my desktop01:27
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cwillusilvaran; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has the approriate line commented out01:27
NwallinsToma-: i am looking at /etc/passwd right now01:27
UNiXWHoRehmmm peepz?01:27
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: install postfix-doc and look at /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz, i'm gonna quote from there now01:27
cwillusilvaran; easy enough to put in the dns server and uncomment to unbreak this, I think01:28
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NwallinsToma-: irc's home folder does not exist (/var/run/ircd)01:28
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Ok, installing it...01:28
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Toma-Nwallins: well the easiest thing to do is just remove the user and go on with your life...01:28
XpCrashi know this has nothing to do with linux but does anyone know how to get into the bios on a g3 i mac01:28
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UNiXWHoRehow do i compile a new kernel under ubuntu? tells me i need qt for xconfig and ncurses for menuconfig01:28
intelikeyblrich yes "break out of kdm"     get in linux and and [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]  reboot01:28
NwallinsToma-: easy, sure, but I'd like to sleep at night too01:28
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: less /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz01:28
abhorsencan somebody pleeeeeeease help me?01:28
UNiXWHoRewhy arent these packages already installed?01:28
tonyyarussosilvaran, mikeo1: I saw that once.  I think it's looking for fonts in the old X (What's that called again?) directory, and can be fixed by placing a symlink to the X.org one.01:28
bimberiNwallins, Toma-: I have an irc user too01:28
ruzgari have a problem with evolutin i cant change the pop ports01:28
Toma-Nwallins: what permissions does this user have?01:29
ruzgari cant find that atribute01:29
Nwallinsbimberi: but no irc server/daemon installed?01:29
Toma-or what groups is it in?01:29
bimberiNwallins: never01:29
blrichintelikey: got it, i'll try that01:29
ruzgarcan anyone help me?01:29
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: erhm.. :| it's not in there... i'm searching for a dpkg-override like command01:29
intelikeyabhorsen that warning you posted just means that that particular function will not be used.01:29
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: is your /var/run/saslauthd really root:root?01:29
bimberiNwallins: haven't even run an irc client on that machine01:29
Toma-cool, i have an irc user aswell01:30
NwallinsToma-: uid = 39   i guess it's setup by the installer?      no groups, btw01:30
abhorsenI got a warning for something, odd01:30
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Oh no, I was talking about `whereis saslauthd`01:30
NwallinsToma-: i guess the mystery is solved ;)01:30
Toma-Nwallins: well no need to worry. no groups generally means no permissions01:30
silvaranNwallins: If it makes you feel any better, I have that user too... I wouldn't worry about it.01:30
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sorry! `which saslauthd`01:30
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intelikeyother than the lldlinux one abhorsen ?01:30
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: what permissions does /var/run/saslauthd have?01:30
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Let me see...01:31
Nwallinsthe thought of some script kiddie using my box and pipe for a irc warez server...   :/01:31
cwillurob138; are you getting any of my messages in the other chat01:31
Toma-sif a script kiddie could break a linux box01:31
UNiXWHoResomebody help me please, i need to get qt-devel or ncurses-devel, so i can configure and compile a new kernel...01:31
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, drwx--x---  2 root sasl 136 2006-03-13 21:31 /var/run/saslauthd/01:31
rob138cwillu, no did you get mine?01:31
bimberiNwallins: looks like it comes with the default install01:31
abhorsenIm sorry, Im slow, I have no freakin Idea what I am doing intelikey01:31
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: oh thats ok01:31
cwillurob138; yep :)01:31
rob138try again01:31
cwillurob138; I wrote like 30 lines of instructions :)01:31
rob138i was disconnected01:31
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: just try to send some mail :)01:31
rob138sorry01:32
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Ok! :)01:32
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cwillurob138; I take it you're not seeing them still :p01:32
abhorsenall I did was run the program, and the last thing in the log was that.  What it means, no clue.01:32
cwillurob138; how did you end up fixing it?01:32
rob138yeah do i need to turn them on in xirc?01:32
abhorsenI just want it to work!!!01:32
NwallinsToma-: i am part of a hosting cooperative..  a hole in Drupal allowed an italian warez group to use our main debian box to serve movies01:32
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Toma-what the heck is drupal?01:33
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: nonetheless i recommend reading some docs about what you're doing now, so you understand all of it... that's a good thing01:33
NwallinsToma-: CMS for php01:33
MakuraIs it possible to use remote desktop between a computer using Linux and a computer using Windows?01:33
intelikeyUNiXWHoRe if you don't even know how to install a devel package why are you compiling a kernel ?    but at any rate,   use  apt-cache search <package>  to find the full package name you are trying to get and then   sudo apt-get install <package>01:33
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silvaranMakura: yup, vnc or rdp01:33
rob138well i first went to networking from administration in gnome, and saw that one of the dns servers was not one of the two i mentioned, in fact it was an old one from another wireless connection, so i changed that, but it didnt seem to do me any help, so i edited resolv.conf and saw the same results as networking, so i again changed it, and now everything is working perfectly01:33
Toma-Nwallins: i see.01:33
Makurasilvaran: Awesome, I didn't know VNC worked for Linux.  Thanks.01:33
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UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sure! Just to let you know, sendimg mail succeeded, but now POP3 sucked! :P01:34
mettallicathey dudes ... i'm wondering why i've this error01:34
cwillurob138; okay, that's the root cause :)01:34
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mettallicatroot@aragon:/etc/X11# nano xorg.conf01:34
mettallicatError opening terminal: gnome.01:34
Toma-anyone know what Timer Frequency is in the kernel options? ive got 100, 250 and 1000 mhz...01:34
cwillurob138; your problem however will now be that resolv.conf gets overwritten by dhcpd everytime it renews the lease :)01:34
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mettallicati'm trying to do something by ssh01:34
rob138oh thats not good01:34
rob138heh01:34
cwillulol01:34
NwallinsToma-: watching that go down taught me about the perils of complacency01:34
UNiXWHoReintelikey: i know how to download it, i was just wondering if a package for it already exists on ubuntu, or if i need to compile it from source, and if i will be missing any more trivial packages after that...01:34
silvaran100 = low latency, 1000 = high throughput, 250 = somewhere in between :)01:34
brenneris there a specific package that fixes the password flaw?  i'm on dialup and would like to try and minimise the amount od d/loading i need to do (updates are currently ~65mb)01:34
rob138is there a fix?01:34
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: w00t, i dont know that pop3 thing, but im sure there will be info in syslog or you need to do some configuratin01:34
abhorsenJust got a different error: LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log01:34
brenners/od/of01:35
cwillurob138; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf01:35
mettallicati've tried forums but no solve for that01:35
cwillurob138;  there's a line01:35
Toma-silvaran: i see. i just enabled preempt, so should i go the whole she-bang and go 100?01:35
UNiXWHoReintelikey: i just dont understand why these packages werent installed initially, you need those to compile pretty much anything...01:35
cwillurob138; prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;01:35
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Hmmm, I've just found the problem while grepping for popa3d in syslog... Bad file permissions... :( (sorry!)01:35
rob138that line is #'d01:35
cwillurob138; uncomment it and change 127.0.0.1 to your dns server01:35
UNiXWHoReubuntu is very nice and smooth, but its missing a LOT of key packages...01:35
cwilluyep, it'll override what the dhcp client passes you01:35
bimberibrenner: the updates to passwd and base-config are the ones01:35
bluefoxicyhttp://anjuta.sourceforge.net/  Is anyone else offered a free ipod nano?!01:36
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: syslog rocks :)01:36
bluefoxicy>:|01:36
cwilluthen if-down eth0 and if-up eth0, and see if everything still works01:36
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sure!01:36
Wizz_kiddwhy is it saying my mp3 files are not audio streams01:36
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rob138cwillu, is there a better way to do that? (i am on wlan0 btw)01:36
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Which packages do you miss?01:36
brennerbimberi: thanks01:36
cwillurob138; host archive.ubuntu.com should not give you any warnings01:36
bimberibrenner: np :)01:36
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cwillurob138; it doesn't replace the entry, it just adds the hard coded one in front01:36
abhorsenINTELIKEY, ARE YOU THERE?01:36
cwilluso if it can't find that dns server, it'll fail over to whichever the dhcp provides01:36
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intelikeyUNiXWHoRe pardon my saying so, but you prove that you don't know by the question you just asked.   if apt-cache finds it it is a ubuntu package.  and the reason that 'not all devel' packages (any really) are installed is because the base install would be over 6g01:37
Toma-bluefoxicy: i get some crappy advert *updated his hosts file*01:37
Knorrieabhorsen: guess he's awake now :D01:37
rob138but what will happen in four days, when i am going to be on a different wireless router?01:37
cwillurob138; it's better than my usual fix (using a static address :)01:37
abhorsenWHAT DOES THAT MEAN?01:37
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KnorrieUltimateWarrior: you know about tail -f?01:37
UNiXWHoReintelikey: it doesnt, and please stop being an ass01:37
brennerhehe01:37
Knorrieabhorsen: press caps lock please01:37
bluefoxicyToma-:  doesn't that violate sf.net policy01:37
abhorsenSorry01:37
cwillurob138; you could try playing around with the network-locations stuff, but I haven't played with that before01:38
bluefoxicytoma also wtf anjuta 2.0 is awesome look at the screenshats.01:38
cwillurob138; the prepend line shouldn't break other providers01:38
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Sure, that's a handy one!01:38
Knorrieabhorsen: nice :)01:38
Wizz_kiddwhat package do i need ot get my mp3 fiels to work01:38
cwilluit just uses it first if its available, otherwise it'll use the dhcp provded one01:38
Toma-bluefoxicy: they might have been hacked01:38
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Do you know about 'grep -v' :)01:38
silvaran!tell Wizz_kidd about mp301:38
UNiXWHoReintelikey: and these BASIC devel packages are installed by default with pretty much any linux distro ou there, and i havent see any go over 1.5/2 gig01:38
intelikeyabhorsen you have build-essential installed ?01:38
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: sure01:38
abhorsenUnless it came with Kubuntu, I dont have it.01:38
rob138cwillu, Oh okay, i gotcha, should i bother using wifi-radar?01:38
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: qt-devel and ncurses-devel01:39
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, That's another precious tool sometimes...01:39
bluefoxicyToma-:  doubtful.01:39
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abhorsen*Ubuntu*01:39
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brennerWizz_kidd: mp3 fiels?01:39
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intelikeydevel packages are default install in what distro ?01:39
cwillurob138; sorry, I don't know anything about that01:39
Toma-bluefoxicy: well email them01:39
cwillurob138; my laptop doesn't like ubuntu :)01:39
Toma-intelikey: sourcemage :D01:39
Knorrieintelikey: gentoo? :)01:39
UNiXWHoReintelikey: any that lets you choose development packages01:39
cwillu(hardware problems that windows copes with better)01:39
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rob138mine barely does01:39
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, I'm not sure, but have you added 'universe' and 'multiverse' to your '-src' entries in sources.list?01:39
intelikeylol Toma-01:39
akcomhow would I restart inetd (I need to enable tftpd, which I just installed).  i tried /etc/init.d/inetd restart and it said inetd was not found01:40
abhorsenwhat is build-essential?01:40
rob138how do i turn on private messages in XIRC01:40
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akcomabhorsen, it is used for compiling applications01:40
nalioth!info build-essental01:40
intelikeybut "lets you choose" hardly qualifies as default anyway.01:40
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akcomincludes gcc, g++ etc01:40
Kyralabhorsen, the GCC compiler and its friends01:40
cwilluakcom;  try a locate inet to see where it might be01:40
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: nope, where is that sources.list?01:40
cwilluakcom;  locate inetd that is01:40
abhorsendoes it come with ubuntu, or do I have to get it online?01:40
abhorsenIm such a noob01:40
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brennerrob: you need to register with nickserv01:40
mikebotcan someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..01:40
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rob138i am registered...01:41
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Man... Many many thanks for the great help. Now I have got something to study, the whole sasl process... I just need to know what we just did! :o)01:41
bimberiabhorsen: build-essential is on the CD, just not installed by default01:41
UNiXWHoReintelikey: as i said before, stop being an ass, please01:41
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, /etc/apt/sources.list01:41
Knorrieabhorsen: if possible *always* use official ubuntu packages01:41
UNiXWHoReintelikey: i asked for help, not flames...01:41
intelikeyabhorsen in a terminal type    sudo apt-get install build-essential01:41
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarriorL thanks m801:41
silvaranmikebot: Make sure the options column of /etc/fstab has "ro,umask=0222" for your ntfs entry.01:41
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cwillurob138; can you see me?01:41
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brennerrob138: is the person your pm'ing registered too?01:41
MeetThaFockerHi, can anyone tell me how to fix the password problem in ubuntu Breezy?  There is a file that actually has the root password listed, should I delete the file or just delete the password entry?01:41
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silvaranThere he is!01:41
mikebotsilvaran, i haven't edited fstab at all...do i need to do that?01:41
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: i spend some hours to get this thing working, so i m happy i can help you01:41
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UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, You could try adding 'universe multiverse' right after 'main restricted' to your 'deb-src' entries and run 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'aptitude search packages-you-want'.01:42
intelikeyUNiXWHoRe if the little bit of light i gave caused flames  Stop hagnifying it.01:42
silvaranmikebot: TO keep the ro,umask=0222 settings between mounts, yes.01:42
judgenWhere can i find the cool graphical tool for configuring ATI Remote wonder remotes found in distros like geekbox01:42
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, I understand that feeling. ;)01:42
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: sasl is not very well documented01:42
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wbarnescan someone explain what purpose initrd serves01:43
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abhorsenIt is installing now01:43
KnorrieUltimateWarrior: the postfix docs (also on www.postfix.org) are reallly good01:43
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Yeah, you were right when you sais it was complicated.01:43
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silvaranwbarnes: It's a miniature filesystem-in-a-file to serve as a launchpad for booting the system.  abbreviation for "initial ramdisk"01:43
bimberiMeetThaFocker: a fix has been released if you are up to date with updates.  The fixed packages are base-config and passwd01:43
abhorsenIn terminal, it says its done, what now?01:43
UltimateWarriorKnorrie, Agreed. I just wanted to make sure I would install the whole thing in Ubuntu-way. :)01:43
intelikeywbarnes yes.  it provides the kernel with ext#fs support and you can not boot without it.01:44
balu1anyone here ever run a 3dfx voodoo card?01:44
MeetThaFockerbimberi Ok thanx01:44
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cafuegoOnly a voodoo201:44
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Keep in mind that sometimes package names aren't written like you'd expect. Make sure you try a few variations if you don't find them at the first time.01:44
UNiXWHoReintelikey: please tell me why whenever someone asks for help in this so-called linux "community", hes called a newbie or flamed... i mean this is a fairly new linux distro, and i recompiled kernels countless times on RH, Slack, and Mandrake, i know how to do it, i just dont get why this distro seems so windows wannabe, hiding everything you need or want from linux..01:44
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mikebotsilvaran, i still can't access it01:45
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wbarnessilvaran: why can't the kernel just boot directly.  both kernel and initrd are pointing to same device .... so it seems both should be able to access?01:45
cafuegoif you have either of those, trash it and go buy a cheap nvidia card01:45
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cafuegoit'll 1) work and 2) be about 1000% faster01:45
balu1hmm nah.. any 3dfx voodoo3s??? (2000 if possible)01:45
mikebotsilvaran, right now it is this in ftasb: /dev/hdb5       /media/f:ntfs     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,umask=0222        0       001:45
Protocol1cafuego, holy cow voodoo cards are pretty old.....01:45
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cafuegoProtocol1: only a decade or so ;-)01:46
Protocol1i remember having one back in 9701:46
NCLifeto get for example a realplayer movie to work, i need the w32codecs installed right? to install them is the guide given at wiki still up to date?01:46
silvaranwbarnes: It can... but to make things as general as possible, core drivers (for scsi, ide, etc.) are put in the initrd.  Then it grabs that initrd on bootup (using very simple disk access code), and loads whatever it needs from the initrd to access the rest of the system.  It's a conservative approach to the chicken-and-egg problem of needing a hard disk driver off a hard disk to access a hard disk :)01:46
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abhorsenWhat now, it still wont install, and in terminal, I did what you said.01:46
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, The Ubuntu-way-of-life tries to get the best out of the abstraction layers the distro implements. This is vital for administration purposes.01:47
Protocol1so April 20th is the launch date for dapper?01:47
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dcodeI just bought this Intel SRCS28X serial ATA raid controller to drop in my ubuntu file server, and I found that the card doesn't fit in my PCI slot.  The card is PCI-X but backwards compatitable with 32-bit PCI01:47
brennerNCLife: w32codecs don't cover realmedia files iirc01:47
rukuartic!seen Seveas01:47
ubotuseveas is currently on #ubuntu+1 (49m 53s) #ubuntu-offtopic (49m 53s) #ubuntu (49m 53s)01:47
ssamProtocol1, yes, if its not delayed (we'll find out tomorrow)01:47
dcodemy friend told me that it works in older PCI slots if you turn it around...is that true?01:47
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Slackware is great, and it's surely the best distro to do things 'by hand'. Ubuntu tries to abstract many things to make everything more scalable, upgradable, etc.01:47
mikebothrm01:47
mikebotcan someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..01:47
dcodeI think it would fit01:47
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: at the cost of flexibility...01:48
brennermikebot: weren't you having this problem yesterday?01:48
Protocol1ssam, i see01:48
intelikeyUNiXWHoRe i can't answer that.  i neither coded nor packaged any part of ubuntu,  i agree completely that it is a windows wanabeee   the answer i got on that was that it is made for the windows users first step into linux.   as to being called .... or flamed    if you stop wareing your feelings on your shirt sleve, people wont destrub them near as much.01:48
Protocol1cool01:48
mikebotbrenner, yeah, it was never resolved01:48
ssamProtocol1, mark shuttleworth has suggested a 6week delay to get everything highly polished01:48
brennermikebot: pastebin /etc/fstab01:48
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, It's not 'Windows-like' though, since it keeps everything open and it's not so difficult to understand how things work.01:48
mikebotbrenner, okay01:48
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, as a newbie that i am, how would u compare ubuntu with say, Mandriva? I have both distros installed now.  Which is more "newb friendly?"  Mandrivia seems to be slightly moreso to me01:48
mikebot!paste01:48
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.01:48
Protocol1ssam, thats ok.....the more stable the better01:48
silvaranShoot what's the name of that vnc viewer for gnome?  vino or something?01:48
NCLifebrenner, uh. is it impossible to watch them on ubuntu then?01:48
abhorsenIs this the last thing that is supposed to be displayed? Setting up build-essential (11.1) ...01:49
rukuarticDoes anyone know about #shadowserver and SoBe-?01:49
mikebotbrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015201:49
ssamProtocol1, indeed, and the adventurous can help do the final testing, there shouldnt be any serious bugs left by april01:49
intelikeyabhorsen yeah01:49
shivhow do I know which version of gnome do I have?01:49
dcodecan someone help me?  Is it possible to get a PCI-X card into a PCI slot by turning it around?01:49
dcode(and it works)01:49
shivI got it01:49
brennerNCLife: no.  you just need to install realplayer01:49
Protocol1yeah01:49
abhorsenthen now what do I do?01:49
rukuarticdcode: Probably a bad idea :P01:49
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: I still wish a future release would include development packages, maybe not install them by default, but at least include them...01:49
UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, I think everybody has a distro that fits best their needs and that's a very personal choice. I haven't tried Mandriva yet, so I couldn't try to comment on it. But I really think Ubuntu is a great distro for beginners, all of my family (all ages) use it at home.01:49
dcode:-(01:50
Knorrierukuartic: sounds like botnets and so01:50
mikebotbrenner, now here's the thing...it's hdb5 that i can't access..and yesterday it worked, but i wanted to change the name from hdb5 to f:ntfs, so i unmounted it from hdb5 and mounted it on f:ntfs01:50
brennerNCLife: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:50
Toma-if i build a kernel for k8, will i break my 32-bit system?01:50
dcodewhy doesn't anything ever work out for me :'-(01:50
mikebotbrenner, and now it says i can't access it01:50
UNiXWHoReI mean, its pretty complete, but it's not linux if its not customizable...01:50
rukuarticKnorrie: Yea... Can you answer a few questions for me? No, its not about getting back :P01:50
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, So you couldn't find the packages even after adding 'universe multiverse'?01:50
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, Well I suggest trying Mandriva.  I really like it, and it gives you the choice of Gnomne or KDE or Xfce or others01:50
NCLifebrenner, okay. So, ill install the w32codecs anyway in case i need them later. Is the faq provided at the wiki reliable?01:50
dcodethnx rukuartic01:50
brennermikebot: did you create /media/f:ntfs ?01:50
englawith gnome/metacity, is there a way to create a "temporary workspace" on-the-go.. like you press some magic combo and you make a fifth workspace, even if you use 4 by default01:50
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: didnt check yet, just added it, was busy talking... :)01:50
mikebotbrenner, yeah01:50
brennerNCLife: yes.  it's the official wiki01:51
silvaranUNiXWHoRe: apt-cache stats... I've almost 24,000 packages available.01:51
englaI don't want it to stay until next login01:51
abhorsenintelikey: what do I do next?01:51
mikebotbrenner, and when i mounted it on that, i got the fodler on my desktop..but when i try to open it i get the error:01:51
NCLifebrenner, thanks!01:51
UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, Ubuntu also gives you that choice. You can easily get a complete KDE or Xfce solution by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' or 'xubuntu-desktop'.01:51
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intelikeytry what ever you were trying that brought us to that point,  again    abhorsen  :)01:51
mikebotbrenner, The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "f:ntfs".01:51
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, yeah but I am on dial-up and am not downloading KDE, which is probably 100 or more MBs01:51
abhorsenI did, no change, unfortunatly01:52
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Please try it, I'm almost sure you'll find them! :)01:52
Knorrierukuartic: i read some article about an irc conversation with a teenager involved in running botnets some days ago01:52
Wizz_kiddhow do you install .deb again :P01:52
UNiXWHoReokay synaptic is downloading new package info now...01:52
MeetThaFockerOf course, I do have KDE 3.5 on a DVD but have no idea how to compile and install it01:52
silvaranWizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb01:52
brennermikebot: well, the fstab options are ok01:52
Wizz_kiddthanks again :p01:52
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: seems to work, thanks again man...01:52
abhorsen2006-03-14T00:52:18Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!01:52
abhorsen2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING01:52
abhorsen2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING01:52
abhorsen2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING01:52
MeetThaFockerMandriva comes with KDE and Gnome on the CD01:52
brennermikebot: do you get that when you dbl-click on the icon?01:52
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shivhow do i upgrade to gnome 2.14? is it advisable?01:52
fiendskull9hello01:52
mikebotbrenner, yes01:52
naliothubotu: tell abhorsen about paste01:52
fiendskull9where is the install path to gaim located?01:52
naliothshiv: join #ubuntu+1 to discuss gnome 2.1401:53
UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, Got it. I must admit I only switched to Ubuntu after getting my ADSL connection. Before that I had to compile my winmodem drivers by hand and used Slackware. But you can also get the Kubuntu CD, which provides KDE.01:53
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Toma-Ive got a 64-bit cpu on a 32bit system, if i build a kernel with K8/64bit processor family, will it break my 32bit system?01:53
abhorsensorry, wont happen again01:53
MeetThaFockerMan its been years since I have been on IRC, this is the first channel I came to tonight that people were actually TALKING01:53
intelikeyabhorsen one line pastes are tolerated very well here    but do not flood.01:53
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, No problem, man!01:53
abhorsenlike I said, wont happen again01:53
fiendskull9where is the install path to gaim?01:53
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, I am on dial-up and 14.4K at that.  Why? because I am not paying Linuxant.com for the "full version" of my drivers...I wish I could find a hack.01:54
englaMeetThaFocker: you'll find that there is too much talk here, it moves too fast01:54
bimberiengla: not that i know of, but you add more new workspaces by right-clicking on the switcher applet and selecting Preferences, Number of Workspaces01:54
fiendskull9please send answer to my question through pm01:54
silvaranMeetThaFocker: Same here, I just joined yesterday after a 5-6 year hiatus :)01:54
fiendskull9agaqin01:54
fiendskull9q is01:54
abhorsenwhat now, intelikey?01:54
Toma-MeetThaFocker: why not? did linux cost too much to buy? :)01:54
fiendskull9where is the install path to gaim located?01:54
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UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, Have you tried the Smartlink drivers? Those were the best drivers I could find when I had to struggle with my now-disabled winmodem!01:54
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englabimberi: of course. I'd like a solution with some flow.. guess I need a cooler wm than metacity for that01:54
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brennermikebot: can you access it thru terminal?01:54
^Odd^whats the command to set up lm-sensors for the first time?01:54
intelikeyabhorsen what do you mean what now ?   i didn't see any error message ?01:54
NCLifemh, got another question. Im experiencing jerky dvd playback. I've already enabled the DMA transfer, is there another thing i could do to avoid this?01:55
silvaranfiendskull9: dpkg -L gaim will list files.01:55
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, no I have not, do they work with Conexant HCF winmodems?01:55
bimberiengla: kk01:55
englaStill for me, it's dissapointing that workspaces in os x > workspaces in gnome01:55
bpucciowhat's do I have to delete in .evolution to get rid of the IMAP cache, but not clobber all my settings, filters, etc?01:55
abhorsenIt was the same error message01:55
mikebotbrenner, do i just cd /media/f:ntfs?01:55
intelikeyabhorsen notice     warning != error01:55
brennermikebot: yes01:55
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UNiXWHoRehehehe01:55
abhorsenLLDir_Linux not fully implemented!01:55
MeetThaFockerToma, I don't agree with forcing people to pay for hardware they ALREADY own.  that's what linuxant does.01:55
OmegaAlphahello all, i was wondering is someone knew of a data recovery program to use from a partition screwup01:55
intelikeyabhorsen that is a warning, not an error.01:56
Toma-MeetThaFocker: theyre giving you support for a devious peice of hardware. reverse engineering something like a winmodem is no easy task. throwing them a little bit of money isnt evil.01:56
abhorsenthen what does it mean, it still isnt installed, is it?01:56
mikebotbrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015301:56
MeetThaFockerToma, yeah but if there is an alternative to their driver, I will gladly resist giving up my money.01:57
silvaranToma-: I suspect it's more of a personal preference than an ethical dilemma... paying one company to make up for another company's shortcomings.01:57
UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, That's one of the modems I have had in the past and I can't remember it right, but I think it's worth a try!01:57
^Odd^anyone know what the configure command to set up lm-sensors01:57
MeetThaFockerUltimateWarrior, have a link?01:57
intelikeyabhorsen it's telling you that that function is not going to be used.     i have no idea what the function will or wont do but the program should work.01:57
UltimateWarriorMeetThaFocker, Just a minute and I'll see if I can find some useful information from my past experiences!01:57
Toma-hmm k. anyway, who would wanna support linux anyway.01:58
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MeetThaFockerToma, I would think designing and developing KDE is no easy task, yet I don't see them setting up a paypal account on their website01:58
Toma-MeetThaFocker: they still make a pretty penny.01:58
intelikeyabhorsen in linux   no error    generally means  no error.01:58
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abhorsenwell, The program has not launched, is there something i have to do to make the program RUN?01:59
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abhorsenIm sorry, Im used to the windows point and click01:59
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intelikeyabhorsen probably  what program are you installing there ?01:59
mikebotbrenner, any idea?01:59
serenanyone know when flight-5 kubuntu iso will be released?01:59
blrichcan anyone help? having trouble starting kde because of ICE/DCOP not working. there's something wrong with my host. I can't even sudo on the command line, because it says 'cannot lookup <myhostname> - loclahost via gethostbyname()'02:00
abhorsenit is just a game, but Ive been having problems installing a number of programs.02:00
abhorsenit is called second life02:00
brennermikebot: ls -l /media | grep ntfs02:00
intelikeyabhorsen and did you follow the instruvtions provided by it's author ?02:00
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mikebotbrenner, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 f:ntfs02:00
blrichmy host seems to be r00ted but this is all after a bad reset, so i don't know what could have happened.02:01
techrushnot to but in here as im not all that familiar with your problem abhorsen but i believe second life for linux is still in alpha stages02:01
nickrudblrich, your hostname doesn't match what's in /etc/hosts ; type  hostname && cat /etc/hostname | head -102:01
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abhorsenIt is, but Ive had errors and problems with a number of programs, such ass WINE and others02:01
intelikeyabhorsen if it was a source package (file.tar.gz)  look for any files in the unpacked directory that are all caps.   README  INSTALL ...02:01
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brennermikebot: you should be able to read it.  i don't know to be honest.  you stumped me.02:02
UNiXWHoRebleh02:02
UltimateWarriorDoes anyone know if the '/notice' irc command is client or server based?02:02
Toma-hmmm. do i need to build this kernel with initrd or no initrd? that is the question...02:02
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: doesnt work02:02
UNiXWHoReapt-cache stats still gives me only about 1500 packages02:02
mikebotbrenner, heh okay02:02
brennercould someone help mikebot access his ntfs partition?  his ftsab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10152.  his error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015302:02
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Damn, I wanted to leave a note for MeetThaFocker02:02
mikebotbrenner, ah thank oyu02:03
blrichnickrud: it comes out as richcorp localhost richcorp02:03
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UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: mind sending me a copy of your sources.list?02:03
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nickrudblrich, how about pasting just the first line of /etc/hosts02:03
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: im starting to think it might be broken02:03
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Just a second!02:03
FlannelKingUltimateWarrior: you can leave him a message via MemoServ02:03
Toma-UNiXWHoRe: what are you looking for?02:03
djs_2_6Hey all.  Does anyone know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?02:03
UltimateWarriorFlannelKing, Hmmm... Thanks!02:04
abhorsenforget second life.  I need help installing WINE02:04
UNiXWHoReToma-: ncurses-devel and qt-devel02:04
blrichnickrud: the thing was, this problem was happening before when my /etc/hosts was 127.0.0.1 loclahost, 127.0.1.1 richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp. so i got rid of the second entry, fixed things up, this is still happening tho02:04
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abhorsenCan you help me with that?02:04
Toma-djs_2_6: acidrip does it for me02:04
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UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Please pvt msg me.02:04
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Toma-UNiXWHoRe: i just installed "ncurses-dev"02:04
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Toma-for qt, i imagine its qt-dev02:04
djs_2_6Toma- - Does that work with already ripped dvd files?02:04
Toma-djs_2_6: nope02:04
mwehow can you know what package a specific file belongs to?02:04
Toma-djs_2_6: like, vobs?02:05
UNiXWHoReToma-: except synaptic or apt doesnt find it...02:05
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djs_2_6Toma- - Yep02:05
Toma-quirky02:05
nickrud127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp <--- make it look something like that blrich02:05
Toma-!info ncurses-dev02:05
Toma-whaaat02:05
nickrudinfo libncurses5-dev02:05
nickrud1info libncurses5-dev02:05
Unitylol02:05
brennermikebot: you *could* try and change the fstab option to just: umask=022202:05
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Toma-!info libncurses-dev02:05
nickrud!info libncurses5-dev02:05
Unityyou ok there nickrud ?02:06
ubotulibncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1218 kB, Installed size: 5656 kB02:06
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brennermikebot: that's what the starter guide in the help menu says to use02:06
Toma-ahh :/ thx nickrud02:06
bimberihoo-ray!02:06
nickrudI dropped my cigarette, and paniced02:06
mikebotbrenner, okay, i'll try that02:06
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Toma-ahh well02:06
Toma-bbl02:06
^Odd^so does anyone know what the command to configure lm-sensors is?02:06
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Kyralsensors-detect02:07
mikebotbrenner, so tak away fmask and dmask?02:07
Toma-^Odd^: sensors-detect02:07
djs_2_6Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?02:07
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beppesalve a tutte......sono nuovo....ma credo di essere nel posto sbagliato02:07
noce_br!it02:07
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:07
abhorsencan you help me install WINE intelikey?  You have been very helpful so far02:07
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: crap, server doesnt accept privates unless registered02:07
Toma-djs_2_6: anything that uses mencoder will do02:07
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Damn!02:08
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mikebotbrenner, same error...it may have somethign to do witht he fact that i partioned this in windows using partition magic?02:08
beppeok....... sorry........02:08
intelikeyabhorsen sudo apt-get install wine02:08
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tomypreachhi all -02:08
noce_brdjs_2_6: try dvdrip for ripping dvds into avis02:08
brennermikebot: everything except umask=022202:08
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Let's see what happens if I...02:08
intelikeyabhorsen it's in the repos02:08
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tomypreachi need a divx player ? do any of you know a good one ?02:08
raphvlc02:08
djs_2_6noce_br - Thanks, but I already have some ripped dvds that I need to convert...02:08
mikebotbrenner, ah okay02:08
noce_brdjs_2_6: ripped into what? .vob files?02:09
bimberi!tell abhorsen about wine02:09
djs_2_6noce_br - Yep02:09
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: ill try and ctcp you my e-mail adress, hold on...02:09
tomypreachis there an installer for it ? :-(02:09
mikebotbrenner, same error...all i'm doing is saving fstab then trying to open it again--i don't have to restart or anything, right?02:09
blrichnickrud: should i do the same for the second line with the 192.168.0.2 ip?02:09
tomypreachhey mike02:09
brennermikebot: you have to remount!02:09
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, I'm trying to DCC chat you... Did you get any request?02:09
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brennermikebot: sudo mount -a02:09
UNiXWHoRegot it?02:09
intelikeyabhorsen  wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     wine-utils - Windows Emulator (Utilities)     wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     winesetuptk - Windows Emulator (Configuration and Setup Tool)   <--- they are all in the repos.02:10
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: nope02:10
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, nope. :(02:10
PuppiesOnAcidThe proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?02:10
UNiXWHoRebleh02:10
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Do you have ICQ?02:10
mikebotbrenner, ahhh02:10
tomypreachbababooey ?02:10
mikebotbrenner, okay, let me try02:10
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: nope, msn02:10
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UNiXWHoReironic, isnt it?02:10
sadokwassup?02:10
nickrudblrich, I don't know, I've just seen your error before. I run from real network problems02:10
UNiXWHoRelol02:10
UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Hmmm... Yahoo! Messenger? :)02:10
Wizz_kiddwtf lol my bad one more time someone ........how do you install .deb packages my comp restarting02:10
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sadokdude ubuntu is awsome02:10
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blrichnickrud: as do i02:10
mikebotbrenner, same thing02:10
sadokubuntu rules!!!02:10
blrichnickrud: oh well thanks for your help =)02:11
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UltimateWarriorUNiXWHoRe, Sorry, I don't have an MSM account... (and proud of it! :D )02:11
tomypreachWhat do i do - if i wanna install vlc ?02:11
brennermikebot: damn02:11
bimberiUNiXWHoRe, UltimateWarrior: just make your own channel - /j #unixwarrior (or the like)02:11
raphapt-get install vlc02:11
sadoki wanna get red hat though02:11
tomypreachokey02:11
nickrudblrich, make that change to /etc/hosts, it'll fix the sudo problem. You may need to boot into recovery mode, if sudo's broken02:11
intelikeyabhorsen   man apt-cache       apt-cache  is your friend.02:11
UNiXWHoReUltimateWarrior: yeah join me on privatetest02:11
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UltimateWarriorbimberi, LOL!! :D02:11
mikebotbrenner, =/02:11
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bimberi:P02:11
varsblender rocks you should check it out02:12
brennermikebot: what about the script found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions02:12
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abhorsenok thanks for the help!!!02:12
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mikebotbrenner, i'll install it, one second02:12
svuwhat is the correct way to enable automatical beagle startup on ubuntu? just putting beagled into the session?02:12
bimberiUltimateWarrior, UNiXWHoRe: I did think that was better than #ultimatewhore :P02:12
PuppiesOnAcidThe proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?02:13
intelikeybrenner mikebot not to but in but you should comment out the lines in fstab that pretain to ntfs before running that script.02:13
nickrudmikebot, brenner mount -a doesn't remount ; umount the disk directly then remount to test02:13
shiftoidamn, i can't find any player to read my ape tags properly02:13
brennerintelikey, nickrud : thanks guys02:13
varsshiftoi, what is an ape tag?02:13
UltimateWarriorbimberi, ROTFLMAO!!02:13
djs_2_6Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?02:13
varsmplayer02:14
balu1anyone ever get a 3dfx voodoo3 direct rendering to work?02:14
djs_2_6tritium - I linke your Sn.  Any particular reason?02:14
nickrudbalu1, sure did02:14
shiftoiape is the tagging format for monkeys audio files, and a few other formats02:14
enycmeep02:14
balu1nickrud: NO WAY NICK02:14
brennernickrud: gee, the help menu entry is misleading then: "How do I remount /etc/fstab without rebooting? sudo mount -a"02:14
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balu1nickrud: please share your heavenly knowledge.02:14
tritiumdjs_2_6: thanks.  A few reasons, one of which is I'm from Albuquerque, and our baseball team (from the Simpsons) is the Isotopes.02:14
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mikebotokay so wait, what should i do02:15
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mikeboti'm going to change that ntfs back to umask, then unmount and mount it02:15
djs_2_6tritium - Ah.  I always was fascinated with the experiments that scientists had been trying with Deuterium and Tritium...02:15
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tritiumdjs_2_6: agreed02:16
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brennernickrud: do you want to take over? :)02:16
nickrudbrenner, from the man page: -a     Mount all filesystems (of the given types) mentioned in fstab.02:16
balu1djs_2_6: u like fusion/fission concepts huh?02:16
Protocol1is the a way I can get win32 codecs onto mplayer?02:16
UltimateWarriorOk, great people... Gotta plat at least one 'coin' of WWF Superstars on xmame before going to bed! :D See ya!02:16
bimberi:)02:16
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Protocol1or for it?02:16
tritiumbimberi: :)02:16
nickrudbalu1, I wrote it up, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Vodoo3doesnotdo3D02:16
balu1nickrud: um ;x that didnt work for me?02:16
djs_2_6balu1 - Yeah, for what my little brain can comprehend of them...02:16
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nickrudbalu1, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a pastebin for me02:17
balu1nickrud: xserver just dosnt start up on the voodoo.conf.accel02:17
brennermikebot: what options line are you going back to?02:17
balu1nickrud: k will do.02:17
balu1!pastebin02:17
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)02:17
mike_i just  got linux and i need to know a audio plugin to play audio files02:17
mikebotbrenner, umask=022202:17
tomypreachhmm - cant install it - damn02:17
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UNiXWHoRebimberi: ROFL02:17
brennermikebot: didn't you try that already?02:17
tonyyarussomike_: Specifically?02:17
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mike_well mp3 files02:18
tonyyarussoubuntu: tell mike_ about mp302:18
insidious|zzzso what time is the discussion tomorrow?02:18
mikebotbrenner, but they said that that i can't just do mount -a, but have to unmount then remount02:18
nickrudbrenner, mount -o remount /dev/hda5  is remounting (I did have to look it up again ;)02:18
tonyyarussomike_: The link from ubotu should get you started.02:18
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tonyyarussoOops.02:18
tonyyarussoubotu: tell mike about mp302:18
Toma-mike_: xmms will play mp3's and look good doing it02:19
mike_ok thx02:19
brennermikebot: ah, ok.  then yeah, follow nickrud's syntax02:19
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nickrudexcept I got hda5 there , a typo02:19
mikebotnickrud, brenner, okay, i can open the ntfs now, except it doesn't display any of the files02:19
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mikebotbrenner, nickrud, this is with only the umask=0222 line02:19
brennernickrud: hence the "follow his syntax", not "use the command" ;)02:20
englaI wonder... what is gam_server? Is beagled running that?02:20
nickrudmike-e, ls /media/f:ntfs -d , what permissions02:20
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mikebotnickrud, it displayed this: /media/f:ntfs02:20
nickrudengla, that's what gnome uses to watch for general file changes, it's how nautilus knows to refresh it's windows02:20
tonyyarussoAnyone know of a gui frontend to ntfsresize?02:20
brennermikebot: you did use /dev/hdb5 right?02:20
mikebotbrenner, yeah02:20
mikebotbrenner, hehe02:21
nickrudmikebot, sorry, ls -l /media/f:ntfs -d02:21
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brennerok, just asking :)02:21
tonyyarussonickrud: I always kind of wondered how it did that...it's just so cool that way.02:21
mikebotnickrud, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 /media/f:ntfs02:21
antisocial_boriswhat's this i hear about any user being able to find the first registered user's password?02:21
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Unity!installerbug02:22
ubotuA fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.02:22
nickrudmike-e, you still haven't got the access right. cd / && umount /media/hdb5 && ls /media/hdb5 -ld02:22
brennertonyyarusso: can't the parted utilities do that?02:22
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englanickrud: you sure? I've never seen it running like it does now.. grabbing lots of memory02:22
lullantisocial_boris: i suppose we know the answer to the age old question "got root?"02:22
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jeanwhats a gmail fs?02:22
englanickrud: how do I find out what the "parent" of this process is?02:22
nickrudengla, yeah, it screws up sometimes, just type killall gam_server in a terminal, it'll reset02:22
balu1Nickrud:  This is my noaccel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10155        ::::: and This is my ACCEL  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015402:22
tonyyarussobrenner: Not to my knowledge anyway.  They make some overtures like they're thinking about it, but don't quite pull through.  G anway, maybe QT works?...02:23
lullengla: `pstree` is a neat display of the process hierarchy.02:23
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englanickrud: hehe okay. I love that kind of robustness02:23
englalull: ooh. New command to me, great, I love good commands02:23
blrichcan someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start02:23
mikebotnickrud, after unmounting: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-02-27 13:17 /media/hdb502:23
blrichi'm in a major bind02:23
brennertonyyarusso: dunno.  just a stab02:23
nickrudmikebot, then put your current fstab up again :)02:24
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tonyyarussobrenner: Wait, maybe it just requires the suggested package, let me check something.02:24
mike_whats the universal codec for playing audio files02:24
lullantisocial_boris: it's not letting me PM you.02:24
mikebot!paste02:24
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.02:24
englalull: sadly most of the applications are started by "initng", that doesn't give that much information. Neat command anyway02:24
mikebotnickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015702:24
englanickrud: thanks02:24
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balu1nickrud:  ps , when i ran the reconfigure xserver, i had to enter alot of stuff manually.. so i may have mssed up there..: x02:24
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tonyyarussohfs is mac's filesystem, right?02:25
lulltonyyarusso: yup02:25
tonyyarusso'k.02:25
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blrichcan someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start02:25
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bimberijean: lets you use your dmail account as a filesystem02:25
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mike_wats the universal codec for playing music files02:25
bimberi*gmail02:25
lullblrich: did you try running dexconf ?02:25
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Wizz_kiddhow do i install .debs ??????02:25
Wizz_kiddwhats the terminal command ?02:26
bimberi!deb02:26
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)02:26
englamike_: there is no universial codec. But there are some packages that keep track of mostly all of them02:26
brennermike_: there isn't a codec for everything.02:26
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Wizz_kiddthanks02:26
brennerWizz_kidd: what are you installing?02:26
mike_i just need one for common audio files like mp302:26
Wizz_kiddOpera02:26
bimberiWizz_kidd: np02:26
LinuxJonesblrich: delete the .iceauthority file using sudo and then re-login02:26
jeanbimberi: did u try it?02:26
blrichlull: no whats that?02:26
nickrudmikebot, try the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015802:26
brennermike_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:26
jean!tell gmailfs02:26
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blrichLinuxJones: did that, hasn't worked02:27
mikebotnickrud, so mount hdb5 again?02:27
nickrudmikebot, yes.02:27
bimberijean: no i haven't, nice idea, not sure about the privacy though02:27
blrichLinuxJones lull I also can't sudo because it says it can't lookup my host02:27
tonyyarussobrenner: That did it.  I just didn't have the extra part because it was suggested and not a dependancy.02:27
LinuxJonesblrich: you re-started the login manager after deleting the file ?02:27
blrichLinuxJones: lull but i haven't changed the /etc/hosts file02:27
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brennermikebot: lol. waasn't that your original fstab?02:27
nickrudbalu1, still looking :)02:27
nickruda good one :)02:27
balu1nickrud: ya dont worry :) take ur time.. ill occupy myself with super mario world02:27
englamike_: for mp3, it's "gstreamer0.8-mad" but you could just get all of "gstreamer0.8-plugins" and "gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"02:27
blrichLinuxJones: yep, del'd everything, del'd the .DCOPserver files, del'd .kde/tmp* and socket* and so on, del'd /tmp/*02:28
blrichLinuxJones: nothing seems to work02:28
_jasonblrich: pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname02:28
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brennertonyyarusso: so qtparted works?02:28
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LinuxJonesblrich: do it from a virtual terminal (ie ctrl + alt + F3) once you delete the file /etc/init.d/gdm restart then login normally02:28
blrich_jason: can i msg them to you? they're only 2 lines02:28
Salahdoes 3D work with Intel graphic chipsets in Ubuntu?02:28
mikebotbrenner, i don't know hehe02:28
_jasonblrich: just paste it here then02:28
blrich127.0.0.1 localhost02:28
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zythSalah, only Mesa, not accelerated02:29
blrich127.0.1.1 richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp02:29
tonyyarussobrenner: Yep; gparted too.02:29
mikebotnickrud, is it: sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/f:ntfs02:29
Salahzyth, what's the different?02:29
zythSalah, mesa = all done in software = slow02:29
trans_errIs there any simple way to get faad (mp4) support into gstreamer0.10 (ie. in dapper)02:29
nickrudmikebot, since it's in the fstab, all you need is sudo mount /dev/hdb502:29
_jasonblrich: the first one is hostname I assume?02:29
mikebotnickrud, okay02:30
tonyyarussoWhat's the newest kernel for Breezy?02:30
blrich_jason: yep02:30
mikebotnickrud, ahhhhhhh02:30
englamike_: tell us if it works or not later02:30
Salahzyth, how much is the difference between mesa and accelerated? :)02:30
mikebotnickrud, brenner, works thanks a bunch02:30
mikebotnickrud, thanks02:30
brennernickrud: afaict, that was his original fstab.  why can he access the part. now and couldn't before?02:30
_jasonblrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '/home/jasonr/docs/school/cse398/hw2.pdf02:30
blrich_jason: i'm worried i might have mangled some file iceauth or dcop uses, there was a bad reset and then this trouble started02:30
nickrudmikebot, if that fails , I have one last suggestion, which I"m gonna make anyway: get rid of the name f:ntfs, I can see that : touching off silly bugs02:30
_jasonblrich: one sec, that was a typo :)02:30
mikebotnickrud, nono it works02:30
brennerwell, actually, the original had an extra tab02:31
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mikebotnickrud, thank you02:31
nickrudmikebot, somewhere else, somewhere02:31
HymnToLifequestion : how do I restart the network without rebooting ?02:31
mikebotnickrud, sorry?02:31
_jasonblrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp'.  That's what mine look like.  That should let you use sudo at least02:31
djs_2_6Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?02:31
LinuxJonesblrich: the .iceauthority file will be re-created when you login to your system02:31
zythSalah, let's just say, i wouldn't try playing any games ;)02:31
HymnToLifedjs_2_6> avidemux02:31
blrich_jason: why not richcorp.localhost richcorp localhost?02:31
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nickrudmikebot, I know it's a legal character for a directory name, but I cringe on some of the programming errors that will kick out02:32
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_jasonblrich: sure that will work too I suppose02:32
mikebotnickrud, even though it's working?02:32
LinuxJonesdjs_2_6: dvdrip or theoggen (but thoggen rips to .ogg and is painfully slow)02:32
nickrudmikebot, I'm talking about other programs using that dir, not the mounting of it.02:32
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mikebotnickrud, ah okay...do i just edit fstab, then unmount and mount it?02:32
blrich_jason LinuxJones oh my *god* found problem - in my /etc/hostname i have richcorp<new line>localhost02:32
nickrudmikebot, that name is what caught my attention in the first place, and yes.02:33
blrich_jason LinuxJones so that explains that02:33
LinuxJonesblrich: heh02:33
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mikebotnickrud, okay..can i ask you one more question?02:33
blrich_jason LinuxJones thanks for your help, rebooting and fixing it now =P02:33
zythSalah, is your system a notebook or a desktip?02:33
LinuxJonesblrich: how did that happen ?02:33
grout58nickrud what was that command to mount the ext3?02:33
nickrudgrout58, I was helping him with getting an ntfs partition readable by all02:33
jmoncayowhat should i do so instead of typing 192.168.0.1 i only type for example linuxbox202:33
blrichLinuxJones: my senile 54yo developer father stuffed it up on his new kubuntu system and i've been trying to fix it for an hour02:33
flodineanyone use mtail for there log files?02:34
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LinuxJonesblrich: haha02:34
grout58whats the command to mount hdb1?02:34
blrichLinuxJones: that would explain why the prompt always came up as user@richcorp<nl>localhost$02:34
V4Vendettasudo mount /dev/hdb102:34
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V4Vendettahow do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?02:34
LinuxJonesblrich: yeah your not from the Netherlands :)02:35
mikebotnickrud, for an ext3 partition, what are the options in fstab/02:35
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blrichgrout58: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/<dir you want to mount it in>02:35
nickrudbalu1, now, would you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log error from the acell02:35
themachinewhere can I configure programs for start-up?02:35
ph1qt10ni need to restore the GDM02:35
blrichLinuxJones: no <nl> = \n  newline i mean02:35
ph1qt10nim getting the ugly blue KDE KDM02:35
nickrudmikebot, pretty much all the same, except for the fmask & dmask02:35
_jasonthemachine: system > prefs > sessions > startup02:35
Salahzyth, my system is a notebook :)02:35
jbeagleyHow do I change the properties of my USB drive so users other than root can use it?02:35
grout58says cant find hdb1 in fstab or mtab02:35
balu1nickrud :x um.. how do i know its from my accel?02:35
jmoncayowhat permission should I give to a *.jpg file so i can opened from the internet in my apache web server02:35
mikebotnickrud, just take those out?02:35
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LinuxJonesthemachine: system > preferences > sessions > startup programs02:35
zythSalah, ahh, no chance to upgrade the graphics then :(02:35
V4Vendettajbeagley, sudo chmod 777 /mnt/point02:35
LinuxJonesblrich: yeah I know that was a lame attempt at humour :P02:35
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EleafDoes anybody know of any dns servers?02:36
V4Vendettahow do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?02:36
blrichLinuxJones: =P02:36
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zyth777? is that necessary? :P02:36
EleafV4Vendetta, try opening the file I guess?02:36
nickrudbalu1, copy over the acell to x.org, then restart X. when it fails, save /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and send me that02:36
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V4VendettaEleaf, what file is it?02:36
Eleafuhh02:36
Eleaf/var/log/something...02:36
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bimberiubotu tell V4Vendetta about installerbug02:36
EleafI forgot it, somebody else here probably knows02:36
Eleafyea thanks ;p02:36
Drakeson!visible password02:36
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Drakeson02:36
V4VendettaEleaf, 68.87.75.19402:36
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grout58is there a command where i can see all hd's in my comp even if there not monuted?02:37
EleafV4Vendetta, which one is that?02:37
_jason!installerbug02:37
ubotuA fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.02:37
V4VendettaEleaf, comcast02:37
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Eleafmmk02:37
nickrudmikebot, nah, those defaults are pretty much vetted02:37
balu1nickrud: sorry.. how would i save the log?02:37
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V4Vendettaso02:37
nekostarhey02:37
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V4Vendettajust changing my password fixes it?02:37
Salahzyth, anyways, thanks :) the nvidia drivers are better supported ;)02:37
nekostark3b keeps complaining that it cant close dvd tray for verification on burns02:37
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nekostarany clues as to what is REALLY going on?02:38
brennergrout58: you need to mount them to see them02:38
MaRk182hi guys02:38
nickrudbalu1, just cp it to your home dir02:38
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mikebotnickrud, sorry?02:38
MaRk182im having some problems with the nic02:38
grout58how do i find the name of the second drive?02:38
Drakesonhas anybody decided how to handle the installer bug crisis? (or we are waiting for the crisis to happen then figure it ;)02:38
nickrudmikebot, I though you asked about ext3 changes02:38
ph1qt10nnalioth: busy?02:38
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grout58how do i find the name of the second drive?02:38
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brennerV4Vendetta: well, someone told me to update passwd and base-config02:39
MaRk182its a intel 815 with pro/100 ve any help?+02:39
bimberiubotu tell Drakeson about installerbug02:39
V4Vendettabrenner, how do i update base-config02:39
mikebotnickrud, yes02:39
nickrudgrout58, sudo fdisk -l should tell you02:39
mikebotnickrud, what defaults are we talking about?02:39
brennerV4Vendetta: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install base-config02:39
nickrudmikebot, your fstab is excellent for what you have in it; enjoy02:39
jeando sempron 64bit systems require 64bit software?02:39
zythjean, no they can run 32bit02:39
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Drakesonbimberi: of course I know about it, I just meant if there will be any news break or so02:40
brennerV4Vendetta: i meant passwd the package btw02:40
bimberiDrakeson: a fix is out ...02:40
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jeanzyth: then why is this so flaky02:40
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zythjean, I have no idea what you mean02:40
mikebotnickrud, hehe okay thanks02:40
Protocol1my kernel updated today02:40
purpleidea!pastebin02:40
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)02:40
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MaRk182its ubuntu having problems with intel pro/100 lan?02:40
jeanstuff keeps crashing02:40
mikebotnickrud, wait, so just to make sure: /dev/hdb6       /media/fext3   ext3    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000        0       002:41
ph1qt10nnalioth: busy?02:41
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HymnToLifedoes anyone know how to change a hostname from command line ?02:41
zythMaRk182, never has for me.02:41
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grout58i can see the hdb1 in fdisk but it says its not there when i try to mount it02:41
V4Vendettabrenner, got it, thanks02:41
overriderHymnToLife, man hostname02:41
V4VendettaHymnToLife, sudo gedit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts02:41
zythjean, which version of ubunutu are you using?02:41
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nickrudmikebot, no, don't add those masks, i meant the available options where the same, not make them the same :)02:41
HymnToLifeV4Vendetta> I did it, now the network won't restart02:41
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V4VendettaHymnToLife, hm... weird02:41
concept10Anyone need some server racks?02:42
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grout58nickrud help!!!02:42
_jasonHymnToLife: hostname command will do but you need to update /etc/hosts as well or you will lose the ability to sudo02:42
zythconcept10, you paying for shipping? ;) hehe.02:42
mikebotnickrud, no, nick, i'm sorry, i didn't explain...i'm adding an ext3 that wasn't in fstab yet, cause i hadn't added it yet, so i didn't know what to put for the options02:42
concept10zyth, no, thats the only problem, you could have em for free02:42
nickrudmikebot, what you were doing with those mask was applying a static permission to all the files in the partition; ext3 permissions are dynamic, so you don't need those entries02:42
ph1qt10nnalioth: busy?02:42
MaRk182zyth, is not installing the nic driver02:43
jeanzyth: i386 upped to k7 breezy02:43
zythconcept10, hehe, the shipping cost alone would be nuts.  hehe. :)02:43
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naliothph1qt10n: never02:43
V4Vendettawhat kind of school do i go to when they ask you what the word diverse means02:43
mikebotnickrud, so i don't need any options?02:43
V4VendettaLmfao02:43
jeanzyth: too many problems02:43
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nickrudmikebot, all you need is 'defaults'02:43
jeanzyth: its like why me zyth02:43
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ph1qt10nnalioth: how do i restore the GDM02:43
lewixyop02:43
mikebotnickrud, oh okay, thanks02:43
zythJean, and you're not trying to run any 64bit software, right?02:43
nickrudmikebot, for your new ext302:43
naliothph1qt10n: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm   ?02:44
ph1qt10nnalioth: didnt work02:44
naliothph1qt10n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  ?02:44
jeanzyth: no i havent02:44
grout58it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:44
mikebotnickrud, i don't have permission to write on it now...the new ext302:44
mikebotnickrud, haha02:44
ph1qt10nnalioth: after i installed kubuntu desktop, when i turn my laptop on the blue GDM comes up from kubuntu02:44
nickrudmikebot, of course, you need to set the permissions :)02:45
jeanzyth: i go away and programs i have running are just missing off the screen02:45
naliothph1qt10n: you are talking about the "splash screen" ?02:45
mikebotnickrud,  how do i do that?02:45
ph1qt10nnalioth: yes02:45
grout58it says theres no /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab but its in fdisk02:45
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jeanzyth: they crash02:45
nickrudmikebot, do you intend this partition to be readable by only you?02:45
naliothph1qt10n: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please02:45
ph1qt10nok02:45
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mikebotnickrud, i'm the only user, so i don't mind02:46
MaRk182zyth did you install something or it just detects it?02:46
mikebotnickrud, i just want to use it as storage02:46
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djs_2_6Anyone know how to install avidemux?  I am getting an error that it cannot find spidermonkey, even after I have installed it, the -bin, the -dev, libjs, and libjs-dev...02:46
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MrRiowow, im loving flight 502:46
nickrudmikebot, then sudo chown mike:mike /path/to/mount/point02:46
jeanzyth: not sure how long its gonna take before i become the guy who kills his family. but i dont have any wife and kids so its ok :D02:46
mikebotmike is my ubuntu log on name?02:46
nickrudmikebot, exactly02:46
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mikebotso michael:michael?02:47
grout58how do i mount hdb102:47
nickrudmikebot, if that's who you log in as, yes02:47
zythjean, well, unfortunately 'stuff crashes' is kinda like  taking your car to the mechanic and saying 'it's making a weird noise, what's wrong'.  They won't be able to tell from just that.02:47
grout58it asks for the file system02:47
mikebotnickrud, sudo chown michael:michael /media/fext302:47
mikebotokay02:47
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wittejean,02:47
V4Vendettals02:47
V4Vendettaoops02:47
V4Vendetta:-P02:48
wittestuff crashing could be problems with memory02:48
wittesorry02:48
balu1nickrud:  the log was long so i had to split it up in 3 parts... part 1 :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10160                 PART 2:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10161                                           Part 3:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1016202:48
mikebotnickrud, ah wonderful, thank you; can i delete that "lost and found" folder in it?02:48
V4Vendettadamn a new kernel is out02:48
nickrudmikebot, it's a filesystem housekeeping thing, let it live02:48
balu1 a new kernel is out?02:48
V4Vendettabalu1, yes02:48
witteI've seen mozilla die unexpectedly, memtest found problems with the memory02:48
nickrudbalu1, k02:48
balu1nickrud: thanks again02:48
mikebotnickrud, can i hide it?02:48
jeanwitte: im running a full gnome with 256mb02:48
zyththere's *always* a new kernel out.  Don't run off and upgrade like a lemming :P02:48
djs_2_6witte - My firefox dies all the time...02:48
grout58how do i mount hdb102:48
deviansmy phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?02:49
grout58it asks for the file system02:49
zythgrout58, -t fstype02:49
zythlike -t ext302:49
nickrudbalu1, do you have libglide3 installed?02:49
zyther assuming you're using the mount command02:49
balu1nickrud: yes i folowed ur instructions and installed it.02:49
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balu1nickrud: i can check it if u can tell me how ;p02:49
wittedjs_2_6, have you run memtest86?  I've also seen firefox randomly crash on a computer with good memory02:50
nickrudapt-cache policy libglide302:50
japanloverFor some reason it won't let me check off the add check box for the multiverse...any idea why?02:50
zythpersonally, I'd reccomend opera 9 over Firefox, but I'm a heretic :P02:50
grout58it says hdb1 does not exist02:50
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mikebotnickrud, okauy, one more thing..hehe...as for the f:ntfs...if i want to change the mount point to fntfs, can i just edit fstab then do that remount command, and i wont have to do all this editing again?02:50
zythjapanlover, have you specified any multiverse repos in your sources?02:50
rukuarticdevians: http://phpmyadmin.sf.net :)02:50
djs_2_6witte - Yep, my memory is perfect.  It is firefox on this distro...02:50
jeanwith not enough memory would the system just slow down?02:50
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_jasonjapanlover: do you mean it is there and when you click it does nothing or it doesn't even show up?02:50
japanloverit is there, but i check it off and click ok and go back, and it's unchecked02:51
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balu1nickrud : libglide3:  installed: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu1 // candidate: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu102:51
djs_2_6witte - BTW, I have 1GB of OCZ Gold VX @ 240FSB and it tests consistently perfect...02:51
nickrudmikebot, you'll umount, change fstab, then mv /media/f:ntfs /media/fntfs , then remount02:51
balu1nickrud: so ya i think it is instaleld02:51
djs_2_6So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??02:51
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mikebotnickrud, okay thanks02:52
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nickrud[dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024, <-- this is the problem, you aren't using a low enough res02:52
wittedjs_2_6 from my experience, on instance of firefox will run for 2-3 days and then crash.  Mozilla seems to last weeks soemtimes.02:52
zyth16mb ram?02:52
zythickyy.02:52
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djs_2_6witte - That, and it hates to have more than like 3 windows open with more than say 15-20 tabs...02:52
japanloverthe universe check box won't stay checked either02:52
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nickrudbalu1, but, your accell says 1024x768 for 16 bit; you're not running accell on this log02:53
jeanwhats a PMMU02:53
grout58i need help getting a drive mounted02:53
mikebotnickrud, ugh, don't have permissions again02:53
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jeanPaged memory management unit02:53
nickrudzyth, 1998 tech, it blew our socks off :)02:53
Ads_omg02:53
Ads_i got my wireless working on my own ^_______________________^02:53
Ads_and i'm a n00b02:53
zythnickrud, hehehe :D I remember X on an 8mb card... Windowmaker was soo pretty02:54
nickrudmikebot, you've had a working one; go back to it, then work your way forward again. It's exactly the same process02:54
balu1nickrud: ?? i saved the log right after the accel errored.02:54
lewixhow can I make a website on linux ?02:54
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nickrudbalu1, but, the log's say otherwise02:54
zythAds_, I bet you read the instructions, eh?02:54
mikebotnickrud, haha okay02:54
jeanLinux is easily portable to most general-purpose 32- or 64-bit architectures as long as they have a paged memory management unit (PMMU) and a port of the GNU C compiler (gcc) (part of The GNU Compiler Collection, GCC). Linux has also been ported to a number of architectures without a PMMU, although functionality is then obviously somewhat limited. See the Clinux project for more info.02:54
Protocol1ok if cedega doesnt support direct 3d does anyone know what does?02:54
Ads_zyth now i didn't02:54
balu1nickrud: hm..so what should i attempt?02:54
EleafI'm have DRASTIC dns issues02:54
jeanwhat is this PMMU02:55
lewixis there a speific software /02:55
lewix?02:55
zythProtocol1, what are you talking about?02:55
grout58i cant mount /dev/hdb102:55
balu1nickrud: i could edit the xorg.conf?? instead of trying to switch between accel/nonaccel?02:55
EleafUbuntu is NOT using a dns for anything02:55
grout58it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:55
wittedjs_2_6 - I've read someware about configuration file issues with both mozilla and firefox, but that seems like it would have been fixed ages ago.02:55
Ads_zyth: i just used ndiswrapper and it didn;'t work so i tried to gedit the interface listing and changed something and it worked :D02:55
zythEleaf, do you have an /etc/hosts ?02:55
Eleafyes02:55
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Protocol1zyth, playing in direct 3d format02:55
zythAds_, ahh.  So you couldn't do it again if needed? ;)02:55
Eleafzyth, all was working fine, now it is not02:55
grout58i cant mount /dev/hdb102:55
grout58it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:55
EleafDNS support waves in and out of ubuntu as the day goes on02:55
zythProtocol1, as in games?02:56
Eleafzyth, ^02:56
Ads_zyth: no i can now :)02:56
nickrudbalu1, cp xorg.accell xorg.conf ; restart X. before you start X, verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024x76802:56
Protocol1instead of open gl...can I?02:56
Protocol1yeah02:56
Ads_zyth: i just moved auto wlan0 above some lines02:56
zythProtocol1, depends on the game with cedega.02:56
EleafThis is a HORRIBLE bug if it is one02:56
balu1nickrud: how can i verify that??02:56
Protocol1ok02:56
djs_2_6witte - You would have figured, but really, Ubuntu is still teething, so I will be patient for a while...02:56
grout58it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:56
Eleafhow do I FORCE ubuntu to use dns?02:56
zythProtocol1, check Cedega's compatibility lost.02:56
EleafIt is currently using localhost as the dns, but I specified it to do this NOWHERE02:56
zythEleaf, msg me your /etc/hosts02:56
djs_2_6witte - BTW, I have even upgraded to the new 1.5 FF and it made no difference...02:56
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mikebotnickrud, thanks for your help02:56
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grout58can u help me nickrud02:57
zythProtocol1, er.. list02:57
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lewixI would like to make a website, but I'm quite new with linux(more precisely ubuntu). Do you know how I can make a website ?02:57
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V4Vendettalewix, sudo apt-get install bluefish02:57
wittedjs_2_6 - Are you running 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?  My experience is with the 64 bit flavor.02:57
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grout58can u help me nickrud02:57
lewixthanks02:57
percent_20ubuntu 64? what is the default sound system it uses? does anyone know?02:57
zythlewix, step 1) learn HTML., step 2) get an editor, step 3) design a page, 4) make some nice graphics...02:57
djs_2_6witte - 32 bit...02:58
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jeanwitte: what is your cpu?02:58
V4Vendettahmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay02:58
V4Vendettawhats up /w that?02:58
lewixhmm Html for simple website but I'm talking about interactif website02:58
devians_my phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?02:58
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lewixV4Vendetta, thank you02:58
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V4Vendettalewix, no problem02:59
wittejean - Its dual opteron based .02:59
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grout58nickrud i need ur help02:59
MrRiolewix: 'interactive' websites use javascript02:59
balu1nickrud: how do i verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024 b4 i restart X?02:59
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nickrudgrout58, I'm back, lemme finish balu102:59
MrRiolewix:: or if you mean websites that does stuff server-side, you'll need to learn PHP02:59
devians_noone?02:59
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xm07how do you unpack deb files?03:00
V4Vendettaxm07, sudo dpkg -i name.deb03:00
polpakMrRio, java applets work too03:00
grout58how do i mount /dev/hdb103:00
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balu1i dunno how to verify03:00
lewixMrRio: I know about those languages, but I you guys know frontpage or dreamwaver in windows , those are powerful software to design website easily03:00
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grout58how do i mount /dev/hdb103:01
bimberigrout58: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/mountpoint03:01
polpak!info nvu03:01
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB03:01
nickrudbalu1, after you copy over the xorg.conf, read it, make sure there are no resolutions higher for SubSection Display Depth 1603:01
balu1k03:01
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fatehazeI got Phil Zimmermann to use Ubuntu03:02
polpaklewix, if you have universe enabled you can use sudo apt-get install nvu03:02
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balu1nickrud: yes the 16 maxes out03:02
fatehazeHe JUST NOW found out about GnuPG03:02
eobanbhi all.  i have ubuntu on an older dell latitude and i want to completely remove gnome and install fluxbox.  what's the best way to remove gnome?03:02
nickrudbalu1, at 1024x768?03:02
witteI'm trying to troubleshoot an LSI 53C1030 scsi controller that is throwing scsi errors several times a week.  One of the common erros are:  mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0047): SCSI Protocol Error And mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0044): SCSI Data Overrun03:02
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lewixpolpak, thank, how do I execute it ?03:03
nickrudbalu1, if yes, log out, ctl-alt-backspace, log back in03:03
balu1nickrud: yep.. is thre a proper way to restart the X? , i always go ctrl alt f1, then type "sudo killall -9 gdm"03:03
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balu1nickrud: k ill do that03:03
ads_Anyone know how I can sort out this keyboard and mouse lag which occasional occurs?03:03
witteIt has two scsi drives on a properly terminated U320 cable and one cd burner on a 68-50 pin converter on the second channel03:03
ubuntutestctrl-alt-backspace?03:03
HymnToLifebalu1> Ctrl+Alt+BkSpc03:03
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nickrudgrout58, what are you trying to do?03:03
polpaklewix, it should make an icon for it under either applications->internet or applications->programming03:03
balu1nickrud: ctrl+al+backspaced... im sitting at a terminal..its not really doing anything?03:04
lewixk thanks again, I've typed nvu in the terminal and it works03:04
polpakbalu1, are you in X windows now?03:04
nickrudbalu1, switch to terminal one, and copy over the /var/log/Xorg.0.log now, this will preserve the error messages03:04
balu1polpak: um..im at a terminal on a black screen.03:04
witteI've googled this and come up with only a few hits, suggesting there is an instability in the 2.6 kernel driver.03:04
polpakbalu1, if not, (and you are using ubuntu not kunbuntu) try /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:05
balu1nickrud: how do i switch to terminal 1??03:05
nickrudbalu1, ctl-alt-f1 :)03:05
balu1nickrud: god im a noob03:05
nickrudlol, it's all about context, you're sitting at a blank terminal 7, that's where X runs03:05
mikebotwhat's a good cd burner for ubuntu?03:06
balu1nickrud: k..now how do i go back to my desktop? ;p ctrl alt f7?03:06
polpakmikebot, there something wrong with the default?03:06
nickrudbalu1, exactly03:06
witteI'm using an old BP503:06
mikebotpolpak, wasn't aware there was a default--what's it called?03:06
V4Vendettahmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay03:06
V4Vendettawhats up /w that?03:06
polpakmikebot, for audio cd's it's serpentine03:07
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mikebotpolpak, and that's already installed?...is there one program that can burn audio and data like a nero?03:07
djs_2_6So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??03:07
polpakmikebot, k3b is pretty similiar to nero03:07
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mikebotsudo apt-get install k3b?03:08
polpakmikebot, yeah, but it requires a bunch of kde liba03:08
polpaklibs03:08
RemyLaptophi, anyone know much about gdesklets ?03:08
regeyanickrud, it's darn rude of a kde app to be more full-featured...erm, I mean, confusingly full-featured...erm, I mean, confusing to the average user...03:08
nickrudregeya, you think he got it?03:08
mikebotpolpak, oh i don't want that03:08
mikebotis there a gnome one?03:08
V4VendettaRemyLaptop, ask away03:08
balu1nickrud: i want to check that i got u the right log b4 posting.. how can i do that03:09
regeyamikebot, um, there's, uh, shoot, gnomebaker?  that's not the one I'm thinking of...hang on, I'm doing a search03:09
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mikebotregeya, hehe okay thanks03:09
nickrudbalu1, if you copied /var/log/Xorg.0.log to home before you restarted X, you got the right one03:09
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regeyathere's a nice gnome app that does just about everything other than automating video dvd burns03:09
balu1nickrud:  i did that. k leme post it03:09
RemyLaptopV4Vendetta I'm getting an error when starting a network monitor... error: http://pastebin.com/60088203:09
polpakmikebot, the forum lists gnomebaker as a replacement app for nero03:10
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polpakmikebot, I've never used it though03:10
mikebotpolpak, okay thanks03:10
carnyhello03:10
nickrudbalu1, an easy way to post: gedit <file>, ctl-a , paste to pastebin03:10
carnyhow do i exit to the console in ubuntu 5.10?03:10
thizilatihello, i am trying to play mp3's but cannot. wich program should i use?03:10
V4VendettaRemyLaptop, have you configged the gdesklet to use the right device, example: eth003:10
carnysorry exit to the command line*03:10
_jason!mp303:10
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:10
nickrudcarny, alt-ctl-f 1 thru 603:10
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regeya!tell carny about restricted formats03:10
polpakcarny, you want to stop X, or you just want a terminal?03:10
RemyLaptopV4Vendetta, yup.  It actually works...03:11
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polpaktell thizilati about mp303:11
polpak!tell thizilati about mp303:11
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RemyLaptopjust that it gives me that error every time I load it...03:11
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V4VendettaRemyLaptop, have you tried more then 1 desklet?03:11
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mike-ee!restricted03:11
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:11
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RemyLaptopV4Vendetta I have heaps of others that work fine...  I haven't tried a different network monitor, no.03:11
regeyajeez louize03:11
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V4VendettaRemyLaptop, try another one, maybe that one is coded wrong, and are you using eth0 for internet?03:12
ph1qt10nHow can i remove the Kubuntu splash screen and restore the original brown ubuntu splash screen?03:12
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regeyamost can be replaced by FreeFormats...tell that to my dvd player03:12
polpakph1qt10n, use gdm instead of kdm03:12
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nickrudlol03:12
regeyatell that to the quicktime developers, come to that.03:12
_jasonph1qt10n: first 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' let me know when you finish that03:12
RemyLaptopV4Vendetta, will do.  yes, I am using eth003:12
djs_2_6Hey, does anyone know where to find libmp4-0??03:12
brennerregeya: hence the "most" :P03:13
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balu1nickrud:              part 1 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10163                 part 2  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10164                part 203:13
V4VendettaRemyLaptop, okay03:13
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Casanovadoes someone here use scim?03:13
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regeyabrenner, well, mp3 can be replaced.  or it can't.  depends on who you ask. :->03:13
mikebothrm gnomebaker doesn't seem to add itself to anything under Applications03:14
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nickrudbalu1, same error: [dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024,03:14
V4Vendettamikebot, it's under multimedia03:14
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V4Vendettamikebot, sound & video sorry03:14
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balu1balu1: wtf..so did i ntot do it right?03:14
mike-eewhy can't i get sound when playing AVIs?03:14
grout58anyone here use lighttp?03:14
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_jasonubotu: tell mike-ee about multimedia03:15
jcarterwoo! thanks ubuntu for autodetecting my 2200b/g03:15
V4Vendettamike-ee, do you have the right codecs installed03:15
mike-eeporn is not the same without audio =T03:15
regeyaconsidering that there are well-funded orgs in this country who don't think I have the right to take a CD home and rip it to listen to on my computer, I don't worry myself overly much about MP3. besides, Fraunhofer is a german company.  just let 'em sue someone for private use of an unlicensed idea.03:15
nickrudbalu1, make your copy of the accell to xorg, then paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf (the one you intend to be accellerated)03:15
mikebotV4Vendetta, ah, thanks03:15
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RemyLaptopanyone know if you can get Yahoo Widgets to work on linux ?  http://widgets.yahoo.com03:15
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mike-eeV4Vendetta i have the cipherfunk codec package installed03:15
V4Vendettamike-e, np03:15
Toma-mike-ee: some say theres some issues with widows media 9 codecs...03:15
PuppiesOnAcidIs there any way to make xchat-gnome operate like the xchat of olde?03:15
mikebotV4Vendetta, this burns audio cds too?03:15
ubi_SKhello there, sorry to bother you.  I`m a windows user and Ive a problem trying to run ubuntu from the live cd.  The loading process dies at "Startin Hotplug Subsystem". Does anyone know a way to solve it?03:15
_jasonph1qt10n: well after you finish updating alternatives, you have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'03:15
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mikebotV4Vendetta, oh i see it, nevermind03:16
nickrudahFeel, I finally can get rid of the ugly xubuntu splash screen03:16
Toma-ubi_SK: sounds like some bad harware.03:16
nickrudsorry ahFeel03:16
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mikebotso does anyone here use banshee?03:16
ubi_SKthanks Toma-03:17
intelikeyubi_SK start with nohotplug03:17
adam_I'm having trouble with printing and margins -- things print outside their margins regardless of what I do the size of the paper is letter: 8-1/2" x 11" and the printer is an HP PSC 1315 For example, whenever I print something in Firefox, everything shows up fine except the top text (page number and date), they're cut off (only a very small portion of the text shows)03:17
balu1nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 here u are03:17
Toma-ubi_SK: np. doubt thats going to help tho :/ try the dapper/flight 5 live cd?03:17
adam_changing the margin in Firefox from 0.5" to 1.0" changed nothing03:17
jcarterhas anyone here gotten xgl working?03:17
tonyyarussoIn Windows I used to get messages about extending my battery life (laptop) by setting thresholds for battery charge while plugged into the AC adaptor, and completely discharging and recharging the battery periodically.  Can/should I do this in Ubuntu, and how?03:17
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ubi_SKsorry, I only have Ubuntu 5.1.  How do I sart without hotplug?03:18
Toma-jcarter: i tried it, but got lots and lots of artifacts. ask in #ubuntu+1 and/or #xgl03:18
jcartertoma: oh, ok, thanks03:18
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Jared[1] hey, quick question about Grub03:18
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nickrudPuppiesOnAcid, apt-get install xhat03:18
nickrud*xchat03:18
jeancan someone tell me if when you compile a kernel theres an option for sempron in the list in one of the versions?03:19
Jared[1] I installed it in the MBR of one of my drives, and when I try to boot using it, it just repeats the text "GRUB" many times03:19
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tonyyarussoubi_SK: You can hit Ctrl-C when it hangs to skip it in the startup process.03:19
Toma-jean: nope. but it still works as a k7, or if its a 64-bit sempron, k803:19
DarkMageZhas anyone installed ut2k4?, how did it go?03:19
ubi_SKthanks tonyyarusso, bot Ive already tried that03:19
Toma-DarkMageZ: yep, works fine03:19
nickrudbalu1, that one looks right. you got DefaultDepth 16, & Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" in Depth 1603:19
adam_anyone know why I might be having trouble with printer margins in Ubuntu?03:19
grout58i need to restart lighttp whats the command?03:20
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tonyyarussoubi_SK: Oh, okay.03:20
intelikeyJared[1]  are you changing bios setting to cause boot from that drive ?03:20
brenneri thought all semprons were 32bit03:20
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DingbatQuestion:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?03:20
balu1nickrud: right..maybe im doing the error logging wrong03:20
Jared[1] yeah, it is set to boot from that drive03:20
balu1nickrud: can u out line it step by step..now that i ahve the xorg.conf as accel03:20
Toma-nah, new semprons are 64bit socket 754. ive got a 64-bit sempron 3100 :)03:20
Jared[1] when I installed grub on it, I did the following:03:20
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Jared[1] root (hd5,0)03:20
Jared[1] setup (hd2)03:20
nickrudbalu1, the error log gets written over every time you restart X03:20
ubi_SKdo you know how to diable hotplug in the startup?03:21
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Jared[1] because my /boot partition is on hd5 in the first parition, and I want to boot off of drive hd203:21
Toma-ubi_SK: intelikey told you, nohotplug at the boot line options03:21
MakuraDo favorite pages in Firefox have a place on the harddrive?  If so, where is the folder where they are kept?03:21
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nickrudbalu1, your xorg is right, and you said you have libglide3 installed, that's all you need to do.03:21
balu1nickrud:  i understand but if thats the case, the weird error log u see is either a left over, or i didnt copy it over at the right time?03:21
Toma-darn friends using outlook. they keep sending me virus's :D *chuckle*03:21
nickrudbalu1, probably not at the right time.03:21
balu1nickrud: yes but X doesnt restart.03:22
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DingbatQuestion:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?03:22
ubi_SKthaks you all very much, I ll try it right away03:22
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Toma-Dingbat: run ksnapshot03:22
balu1nickrud: k so thats what i meant.. can u out line step by step starting from copying xorg.conf as my accel file03:22
tonyyarussoMakura: There's a file containing them, I think something like ~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html.03:22
nickrudbalu1, I ran that near exact xorg for 4 years.03:22
Jared[1] has anyone had this problem with grub?  it's a very difficult thing to search for on google03:22
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intelikeyJared[1]  what i'm asking is if the bios has changed sense you set that up.   cause mbr is read and grub expects that to be hd0       a confused way to handel booting if you ask me.    that's why i like lilo.03:22
RemyLaptopanyone have any words to recommend superkaramba over gdesklets ?03:22
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Makuratonyyarusso: Thanks03:22
balu1nickrud: i dnt get it, why on earth is it not workin on my end ;x03:22
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Toma-RemyLaptop: depends on if youre using KDE or gnome03:23
DingbatThank you Toma-03:23
nickrudbalu1, it makes better sense for now, to get a working xorg, then copy it over to accell03:23
RemyLaptopusing gnome03:23
Toma-Dingbat: np03:23
UnityRemenic: gdesklets are =( but i never tried the other one03:23
Jared[1] intelikey: yes, I had to tell the bios to boot off of the drive where I installed Grub in the MBR03:23
Toma-RemyLaptop: stick to gdesklets03:23
RemyLaptopis superkaramba kde only ?03:23
RemyLaptopk03:23
balu1nickrud: but thatd mean no 3d accel right?03:23
DarkMageZToma-: did u install the patch?03:23
Toma-RemyLaptop: not kde ONLY, just it used kde libs so itll take up more ram03:23
RemyLaptopI was checking out yahoo widgets, and they have soooo many cool widgets.03:23
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nickrudbalu1, no, get it right, then save the working xorg03:23
Jared[1] intelikey: you can boot using grub from any drive, right?  why does it expect it to be hd0?03:23
Toma-DarkMageZ: what patch? just used the linux installer and run03:23
RemyLaptopgdesklets has some cool stuff, but widgets craps all over it :-P03:23
nickrudbalu1, gotta go for 5-10 minutes03:24
ph1qt10nhow can i change the usplash?03:24
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percent_20!xgl03:24
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:24
_jasonph1qt10n: I just told you :/03:24
balu1nickrud: thats what i have been attempting.. , k np, thanks for ur time tho.. appreciate it03:24
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_jasonubotu: tell ph1qt10n about usplashchange03:24
percent_20!dapper03:24
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion03:24
abarbacciahey all - if i have a doc file and want it to be a pdf is there any linux tool to accomplish this easily?03:24
Jared[1] use openoffice writer03:24
_jasonabarbaccia: OOo writer exports to pdf03:25
abarbacciaooo fun03:25
DarkMageZToma-: oh, well there's an offical patch, bringing it to 3355, making it equal to the windows version03:25
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abarbacciathanks guys03:25
abarbacciadidn't even know that03:25
Toma-_jason: any idea on how to make your own artwork.so? :)03:25
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_jason!usplash03:25
ubotu[usplash]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto03:25
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ph1qt10nthanks _jason03:25
Toma-DarkMageZ: oic. i dont play online with the fullversion :/ not enough players... only the demo has lots of players in my area03:25
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DarkMageZToma-: ah, k, i guess i'll just see if i can get the patch working, should be fun03:26
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Toma-thx _jason03:26
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intelikeyJared[1]  that's the problem then.   grub is looking for the bios drive hd5 which is now bios drive hd0  ie you confused grub by changing bios settings.     i'm not sure there is a way around what you have done.    if you can boot a grub disk with the present bios setting and reconfigure grub to act according to this new bios settings it should then boot.03:26
NickNozehello03:26
NickNozeI want to tru ubuntu03:27
NickNozehow do ifigure out whichdvdtodownload03:27
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tonyyarussoJared[1] , intelikey: What about the live CD way of fixing grub problems?03:27
NickNozethere are303:27
hejin /msg treetree Register treetree03:27
Jared[1] intelikey:  well the thing is, I have my /boot on one drive, and I have the Grub bootloader in the MBR of another drive03:27
Toma-NickNoze: what type of CPU/PC do you have?03:28
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NickNozewell, an HP and it is 5 years old03:28
Jared[1] intelikey: so you're saying that the drive numbers get changed around depending on which one is set as the boot drive?03:28
NickNozecpu... AMD933 Mhz03:28
intelikeytonyyarusso that is kinda what i said.   but if he has to change bios to boot the live then he wont be able to fix it there either.03:28
haasteemhi, i am looking for a good podcasting application... any suggestions?03:28
Toma-NickNoze: get the 386 version03:28
NickNozeok.thanks03:28
tonyyarussointelikey: Point.  Wasn't really following, but caught a little bit.03:28
Toma-haasteem: what is podcasting?03:28
Jared[1] intelikey: I haven't changed the bios settings since I installed grub in the MBR03:28
thizilatihmm, i have installed w32codecs and gstreamer, but i still cannot play mp3's. any insights?03:28
_jasonubotu: tell thizilati about mp303:29
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lullabudToma-: podcasting is like rss for audio files.03:29
percent_20!alsa03:29
ubotualsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix03:29
thizilati_jaon: ive read that page and it did not help03:29
lullabudinstead of downloading news articles, it downloads audio files.03:29
Toma-internet radio?03:29
lullabudsorta like that, yeah.03:29
haasteemToma: that's it03:29
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haasteemToma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast03:29
Toma-haasteem: shoutcast or icecast03:29
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Jared[1] intelikey: also, the drive I'm trying to install it on is on a 3rd party IDE PCI card03:30
powderhowdy03:30
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Jared[1] intelikey: which my BIOS sees as a SCSI card03:30
_jasonthizilati: what does 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed' say?03:30
lullabudToma-: it's not a live stream, it actually downloads an mp3.03:30
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Toma-haasteem: icecast or darkice... i used to run a radio station with darkice :D03:30
grout58what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot03:30
grout58what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot03:30
Toma-oh.03:30
bimberilullabud: an app to manage podcast feeds?  ipodder03:31
Toma-isnt that illegal?03:31
thizilatiInstalled: 0.8.12-0unofficialubuntu103:31
Eleaf?03:31
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Eleaflol03:31
Jared[1] grout58: edit your /etc/fstab file to include that drive03:31
vehow can I bind vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment03:31
Jared[1] grout58: you should be able to figure it out from the other lines in that file03:31
lullabudToma-: just like anything people could use it to do illegal things, but most of it is authorized.03:31
lullabudToma-: for instance, NPR has most of their radio shows available as podcasts.03:31
Toma-i see.03:31
Jared[1] grout58: but, you should read man fstab03:31
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_jasonthizilati: unofficialubuntu? what is that... pastebin 'apt-cache policy apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed03:31
_jasonthizilati: bah typo, I mean 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad'03:32
bimberiToma-: as does the ABC over 'ere :)03:32
lullabudbimberi: i'm not looking for a podcast manager, i have a mac. ;-)03:32
nalioth!offtopic03:32
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!03:32
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haasteemToma: ok, i'll look into it... thanks03:32
Toma-so P2P networks should just run a small radio station and say that its all just podcasting? :)03:32
bimberilullabud: kk, i wasn't sure from your Q03:32
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intelikeyJared[1]  i thought you just told me you did ?      Jared[1]  this is what you are up against.   linux does NOT use bios to determine hdd addressing.  but mbr looks on the address you tell it, according to what bios address it can access.   i.e.  if you are reading an mbr from something besides /dev/hda you will probably have problems with grub.    can it be worked out.  short answer yes.   but not easily03:32
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Jared[1] intelikey: okay, thanks for your help03:33
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thizilati_jason: check pastebin03:33
_jasonthizilati: link?03:33
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intelikeyJared[1]  lilo loads into mbr  so it does not suffer from that restriction.03:34
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thizilati_jason: http://pastebin.com/60091803:34
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_jasonthizilati: what are you playing the file with? and what happens when you try?03:34
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thizilati_jason: ive tried totem and rhythmbox, totem says decoder not found, while rhythmbox acts like its going to play it for a split second then does nothing03:35
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nekostarDAM03:36
nekostarwhy is k3b burning at 2x all the time?!?!?!03:36
nickrudbalu1, ping03:36
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denverits not03:36
_jasonthizilati: run 'gst-register-0.8' and restart the players03:36
OmegaAlphaanyone know how to run updates in terminal instead of using synaptic. I know of sudo apt-get update. but is there something else i have to do?03:36
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balu1nickrud: sup?03:36
nickrudOmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get update03:36
nickrudOmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get upgrade :)03:36
nickrudbalu1, any progress?03:37
bimberilullabud: and now i realise it was haasteem who asked anyway (D'Oh).   hasteem:  ipodder03:37
balu1nickrud: nope :(03:37
veOmegaAlpha: aptitude?03:37
balu1nickrud: i made a new log.. where do  i check fo rthe resolutoin thing03:37
OmegaAlphave, forgot about that. but are there parameters ?03:38
venon necessary03:38
venone03:38
intelikeywhat is the easiest way to start an app every time twm starts ?   .Xresources ?03:38
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intelikeyanybody know ?03:39
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nickrudbalu1, starting from the bottom of the log, you wanna look roughly 90 lines back03:39
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veso, anyone know how to vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment?03:39
thizilati_jason: well im further, its doing more than before. XMMS showed up under apps > sound& video, and it plays the song. Except it's giving me an error about my sound card.03:39
balu1nickrud: k03:39
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FunnyLookinHatve, vncserver --help  ?03:39
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StargazersHi03:40
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nickrudbalu1, if nothing else, you'll learn to read X logs, which are long :)03:40
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_jasonthizilati: check the output, make sure it uses esd or alas, whichever you use.  Does it work in totem now?03:40
haasteembimberi: ok... i see it is in the repository... that's good ;)03:40
_jasonthizilati: s/alas/alsa03:40
intelikeyi want links2 to open a .gif  when i login to twm.    anyone ever mess with this before ?03:40
StargazersHow I can get URL from PHP-file? I mean, I use wget to download one PHP-file and then I need to get URL on $URL variable. How I can do that?03:40
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brenneranyone set up a gmail notifier?03:40
_jasonbrenner: yes03:40
veFunnyLookinHat, refers me to Xvnc..which has options for port, and localhost only, but nothing to bind to specific interface/IP03:40
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brenner_jason: which one/how'd you do it?03:41
FunnyLookinHatve, hmm strange.  Try man xvnc03:41
OmegaAlphave, im not familiar with aptitude. how would i do what the auto updater does... when you see it appearing on the top panel bar03:41
FunnyLookinHat"man xvnc"03:41
thizilati_jason: how do i check the output?03:41
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_jasonthizilati: xmms preferences03:41
trymI have added a repository to be able to install kde 3.5.1.. What do I have to do afterwards to install it? doing a upgrade doesnt cut it03:41
veFunnyLookinHat, essentially the same as Xvnc --help03:42
FunnyLookinHatOmegaAlpha, apt-get upgrade I believe is what you are looking for03:42
StargazersAnyone any ideas?03:42
_jasonbrenner: gmail-notifier in the repos.  Just enable pop in your settings through the normal gmail web interface and then configure gmail-notifier with your username and password03:42
FunnyLookinHatve, that's unfortunate.  I assume you already googled and all, right?  Becasue that's whree i owuld look next03:42
_jasonbrenner: gmail-notify is the acutal package name03:42
brenner_jason: was wondering why i couldn't find it. thanks03:43
veOmegaAlpha, u to Update, then g to Download/Install?03:43
TheWrenchHi, I am reformatting my hard drive (200GB) and would like to try having multiple multiple operating systems.03:43
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veOmegaAlpha, may have to mark all items in Upgraded category first03:43
TheWrenchWindows XP home and Ubuntu.03:43
balu1nickrud: i c what ur saying about the log tho.. even dri says ur 3d will only work when damn res is set right, all in the log ;x03:43
TheWrenchwhat size partitions should I use?03:43
balu1prety helpful stuf03:43
veTheWrench: grub is your friend03:43
nickrudX is pretty good, some others are not so clear03:44
OmegaAlphadoesnt apt-get upgrade, upgrade the kernel?03:44
trymhelp? :)03:44
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veOmegaAlpha, generally..if you haven't compiled a custom one03:44
FunnyLookinHatTheWrench, partition sizes?  Well you probably only need 10 gig for ubuntu healthy...  but XP needs at least 25 to be a good install03:44
nickrudbalu1, but you can nearly always get a decent error log, sometimes you just have to turn on an option03:44
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intelikeyTheWrench i would sujest about 10g each win ntfs  and  ubuntu ext3   then a media partition of about 40g  fat32 that either os can access easily03:45
Rowerswe?03:45
balu1nickrud:  well.. this new error log sasy samething about virtual x res and y res..03:45
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OmegaAlphawell what im trying to do is.. i have updates ready right now on the panelbar but it doesnt install them for some reason and does nothing03:45
brenner_jason: i assume it's meant to be run in the background?03:45
nickrudbalu1, one I've looked at, or a new one03:46
OmegaAlphasoi figured trying to do it from terminal. i did sudo apt-get update but that doesnt seem to get rid of the updates on the panel bar from flashing03:46
_jasonbrenner: shows up in notifaction area03:46
veFunnyLookinHat, any other ideas re: vnc?03:46
FunnyLookinHatve, yea...  im googling, hold on03:46
ArthurBapt-get update firstt03:46
nickrudheh, new03:46
brenner_jason:03:46
brenner_jason: ah03:46
balu1nickrud: this is what i do .. tellme if im wrong 1) i replace the xorg.conf w/ the accel version, then i do a ctrl+alt+ backspace, and then at the terminal .. i do the sudo cp /var/log/xorg.0.conf /home/baluvideo.log  and then i revert to a working xorg.conf so i can get to my desktop03:46
ArthurBand apt-get upgrade then03:46
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FunnyLookinHatve, tried xvnc -interface eth0 ?03:47
balu1nickrud: the new one i jst took has the samething in it03:47
veFunnyLookinHat, guess I could do the localhost thing and just ssh connect with port forward03:47
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veFunnyLookinHat, no....lemme try03:47
OmegaAlphaoh wait nmd now its actually installing them..03:47
FunnyLookinHatve, I'm seeing a patch update here that says -interface should work03:47
nickrudbalu1, I'd do those steps, just as you have them. Maybe wait about 20 sec, before going to the text console03:47
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balu1nickrud: ya thats what i did..the logs not right tho?03:48
OmegaAlphaanyways should i do the sudo apt-get upgrade? people in the past told me that i shouldn't.03:48
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nickrudbalu1, if it's the one that says 1280x1024, no, you're not getting the right data into /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:49
FunnyLookinHatOmegaAlpha, I personally think it doesn't make much of a difference.  Since ubuntu repos are all fairly well tested you should be ok doing that03:49
ph1qt10n!wine03:49
am3r1caHELP !! i have a FAT32 partition but cant mount it, getting some weird erro, already edited fstab, but still wont work03:49
FunnyLookinHatOmegaAlpha, you shouldn't always do taht with debian etch /unstable however unless you like to live on the wild side03:49
Roweris there a web browser in the terminal i can use?03:49
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intelikeyam3r1ca show the line in /etc/fstab please03:49
_jasonRower: lynx03:49
thizilati_jason: where do i find preferences in xmms?03:49
Rower_jason: thanx..03:50
am3r1caintelikey here ??03:50
balu1nickrud ; grrrrrrrr...03:50
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intelikeyam3r1ca yes just the one line03:50
thizilati_jason: nevermind03:50
FunnyLookinHatthizilati, you click the top left part of XMMS03:50
FunnyLookinHat; )03:50
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carnyhello03:50
FunnyLookinHatve, did that work??03:50
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TheWrenchok, so 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, mabye 100GB (fat32) for media.03:50
balu1nickrud: how can just chang ethe resolution of my system?? Like sasy "just load 1024  as a default03:50
am3r1caintelikey :dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   003:50
carnyim trying to install ati drivers for my rage mobility m103:50
OmegaAlphabtw anyone know how to recover files from a screwy partition?03:50
carnyand i get the error message: ./aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open03:51
FunnyLookinHatTheWrench, that would work fairly well probably03:51
carnycould anyone please help me?03:51
veOmegaAlpha, define screwy?03:51
TheWrenchI also have lots of big programs for windows (MATLAB, Mathematica,VisualStudio...etc) should I makea big NTFS partition forthose?03:51
FunnyLookinHatTheWrench, probably.03:51
am3r1caintelikey when i run the comand dmesg | tail i get a weird error03:51
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nickrudbalu1, lol, it is a total pain for old cards. I bought an nvidia just so I could get away from voodoo3 gl03:52
_jasonTheWrench: I believe you can run matlab and mathematica in linux03:52
balu1nickrud: hm maybe thats what ill do , just pick up a cheap card.. im doing this cuz it wa the only spare card around03:52
nickrudI went as far as a 5200, I throw money :)03:52
tritiumyou can, _jason03:52
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intelikeyam3r1ca  how about  " dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat       users,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0  "  adding users should allow you to mount it.   you could add auto  so that it would be auto.         show the "weird" error.03:52
FunnyLookinHat_jason, TheWrench , you can run those programs in linux, but you need to purchase the linux versions.03:52
OmegaAlphave, screwy as in, i can see it on linux, but not exactly what should be there, i cant access it on windows. but can see it with partition magic03:52
_jasonFunnyLookinHat, TheWrench: I know my matlab came with the linux version on the same cd03:53
balu1nickrud: do u know how to install a joystick/ ;p03:53
nickrudthe voodoo was a great 2d card for the machine I ran it on.03:53
FunnyLookinHat_jason, oh reallly?  that's freakin awesome!03:53
flodineanyone use mtail for there log files?03:53
OmegaAlphave, the directories are there as they shoudl be but once you access them.. the files arent there but a bunch of files written in ascii characters03:53
nickrudJoystick = 5 years of frustration03:53
balu1nickrud: ya 2d works just fine03:53
balu1nickrud: god bless ubuntu ;p03:53
tritium_jason: student version?03:53
_jasonFunnyLookinHat: yeah, I was pretty surprised when I saw it03:53
am3r1caintelikey the erro is [4295331.193000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!03:53
am3r1ca[4295331.198000]  FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors03:53
am3r1ca[4295331.198000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda7.03:53
_jasontritium: it was actually a friends, not sure03:54
am3r1casory03:54
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veOmegaAlpha, what does fsck have to say about it?03:54
xm07im new to linux how would i run "./install.sh" as root03:54
OmegaAlphave, also i can no longer move or resize the partition in a partition program on windows or linux. also i have errors - something about missing clusters03:54
veOmegaAlpha, does it report it as clean?03:54
asdfasdfn__what the file equivalent for /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?03:54
_jasonxm07: what are you trying to install?03:54
xm07divx03:54
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FunnyLookinHatxm07, On ubuntu, you do sudo ./install.sh03:54
xm07ok thx03:54
OmegaAlphave whats fsck?03:54
FunnyLookinHatxm07, but wait!03:54
tritiumasdfasdfn__: /etc/ld.so.conf ;)03:54
_jasonxm07: don't do that03:55
FunnyLookinHatxm07, Depending on what you are trying to install, I would suggest using synaptic03:55
xm07good thing i didnt03:55
balu1nickrud: so no easy way to detect a joystick huh?03:55
FunnyLookinHatxm07, What are you trying to install?03:55
xm07the divx codec for linux03:55
intelikeyam3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda7     tell us ?03:55
FunnyLookinHatoh dude03:55
thizilatifuck my soundcard isnt even detected03:55
_jasonubotu: tell xm07 about restricted03:55
FunnyLookinHatxm07, Go to System - Administration - Synaptic03:55
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FunnyLookinHatxm07, yea do what ubotu tells u03:55
intelikeyor just sda03:55
nickrudbalu1, I should refine that: 2 years of frustration, and 3 years of not really caring. I haven03:55
nickrud't had a joystick recently, anyway.03:55
am3r1caintelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda703:55
intelikeyor just sda03:56
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freenodeshow do i make from bootable cd to a bootable dvd ?03:56
intelikeyam3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda     tell us ?03:56
asdfasdfn__tritium, this file does not exist here03:56
misthi, i'm working on ubuntu on intel macs, and i'd like to discuss booting.... is anyone here who would like to talk about that? :-)03:56
intelikeysorry for the   7  up there.03:56
OmegaAlphave, i dont know what fsck is...03:56
tritiumasdfasdfn__: did you delete it?03:56
veOmegaAlpha, fsck is file system check03:56
asdfasdfn__tritium, no :>03:56
am3r1caintelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda703:56
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veOmegaAlpha, "man fsck"03:56
OmegaAlphave, well i justentered it and i dont think it sees the hd03:56
lewixwhat can I do to be able to watch videos online03:56
intelikeyam3r1ca please read.03:56
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TheWrenchok, so perhaps: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 100GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 25GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications.  Total 200GB.03:57
FunnyLookinHatlewix, I would install xine03:57
_jasonlewix: mplayer plug-in works well for me03:57
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TheWrenchwhat doyou think?03:57
OmegaAlphave, so i entered no for it to continue becuase it says it can cause severe damage03:57
lewixi have xine but apparently there is an error03:57
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FunnyLookinHatlewix, Try installing gxine package as well03:57
am3r1caintelikey i ran the command fdisk -l, and the terminal says : intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda703:57
veOmegaAlpha, you'll want to unmount the drive and run fsck against only that drive via the device name03:57
lewixxine engine failed to start.03:58
lewixNo demuxer found - stream format not recognised.03:58
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FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell lewix about restricted formats03:58
lewixFunnyLookinHat, sorry but Iam truly a newbie, can you be more explicit03:58
intelikeyam3r1ca eeeek      then that sounds like a job for testdisk03:58
_jasonlewix: install w32codecs (see ubotu's message)03:58
OmegaAlphave, ok yeah i was just about to do that.. but now the damn drive wont stop reading hehe.  I hope it sees it once i unmount it03:58
am3r1caintelikey it cant open /dev/sda703:58
FalstiusTheWrench: if you mostly use linux, consider using ext3 for your media partition and loading an ext3 driver in windows.03:58
veOmegaAlpha, run "mount" to see device name.....run "umount /dev/foo", then "fsck /dev/foo"03:58
TheWrenchI have never used Linux before.03:58
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am3r1caintelikey how to testdisk ??03:59
lewixI already installed those package03:59
intelikeyam3r1ca bad partition table.   testdisk might be able to recover it.03:59
crxyemTheWrench:  ext3 drivers work great03:59
FunnyLookinHatlewix, sure thing03:59
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lewix...03:59
intelikeyam3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && testdisk03:59
_jasonlewix: try mplayer :)03:59
FunnyLookinHatlewix, The problem is that you most likely don't have the libs installed for the codecs you are trying to view03:59
FalstiusTheWrench: you don't need 25GB for apps ... I have 7.5 GB for apps and that is just barely halffull (and I have most things installed twice! 32/64 bits)03:59
intelikeyor sudo the second03:59
intelikeyam3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk03:59
FalstiusTheWrench: and that includes all of the system apps.04:00
crxyemso anyone falmiliar with repartioning hard disk space (dual boot winxp and ubuntu) ??? I need to give Ubuntu more room04:00
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Falstiuscrxyem: back up your date first ...04:00
FunnyLookinHatlewix, this site has names of many packages you will need to get those restricted formats to play, such as mp304:00
FunnyLookinHatlewix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:00
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freenodeshow do i make from a live bootable cd to a live bootable dvd ?04:00
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Toma-would a dapper kernel run on breezy? just compiled 2.6.15 and getting some nasty driver errors.04:00
am3r1caintelikey, ok but check this out, the fat 32 partition was created with the ubuntu instalation, i created it, and in windows when i acessed the partion, it had all these folders in it04:00
lewixthanks again, give me one moment..just the time to read throughout the article04:01
am3r1cai deleted them all, were they important ???04:01
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crxyemnot a problem , my question would be I need to repart my NTFS drive in winxp, and then add more space to / and /home , anything Ishould be aware of, will I need to edit grub04:01
balu1nickrud:  tdfx, im assuming, IS the right driver for the card right?? not glide?04:01
FunnyLookinHatlewix, ok, you will install all of these packages via synaptic,   Found at System - Administration - Synaptic04:01
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am3r1cain windows the partition works fine, it just doesn work in ubuntu04:01
intelikeyam3r1ca it is a clean partition ?      format it ?04:01
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Rowerhow to install lynx?04:02
am3r1caintelikey, yeah i just formated it in windows04:02
_jasonRower: you should have it, otherwise probably sudo apt-get install lynx04:02
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Falstiuscrxyem: if you are only increase the size of the current partitions you won't need to edit grub.  The easiest way is to download an ubuntu or knoppix live cd and use the partition tools there.04:02
Rowerthanx04:02
TheWrenchok, all advice considered.04:02
intelikeyformated to fat32  or ntfs ?04:02
Falstiusgparted or qparted.04:02
TheWrench 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 110GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 15GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications. Total 200GB.04:02
Rower_jason: if i have it i only have to type lynx to start it?04:03
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_jasonRower: yep04:03
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balu1nickrud: the other thing...when i do an LSPCI...i get hex values (in terminal 1) ..04:03
lgcHello all from Mexico!04:03
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crxyemI didn;'t think you could partition ntfs space with knoppix of ubuntu04:03
nickrudbalu1, yes. The only thing that comes to mind, is possibly your monitor refresh rates are no quite right. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 , along with libglide3 must work04:03
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Rower_jason: it told me that the package lynx wasnt there..04:04
TheWrenchSo you think that this distributionis not possible?04:04
_jason!info lynx04:04
ubotulynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB04:04
FalstiusTheWrench: Why don't you try 15 GB for windows, 40 GB for your warez, 10 GB for /, 15 GB for /home and the rest for media.04:04
balu1nickrud:  well i want to make sure im putting the right pci slot also.. when i do lspci,  my vid card value is 0000:01:00.004:04
Falstiusplus 2 GB swap.04:04
balu1nickrud: what par tof that is the PCI card value?04:04
percent_20!bluetooth04:04
ubotuI heard bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote04:04
_jasonRower: what version of ubuntu are you running and what kind of install did you do?04:04
nickrudbalu1, pci is ok04:05
Rowerserver install04:05
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veFunnyLookinHat, got sidetracked....still messing with it04:05
intelikeyam3r1ca if it is blank  i'd do this.      sudo cfdisk /dev/sda          delete anything not wanted.  make new partition set it to 06 or what ever you like   and write to disk & exit.  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda#   where # is the new number   7 or other.   then mount it.04:05
percent_20how do yo turn bluetooth off?04:05
FalstiusTheWrench: it is very possible, just not efficient :)04:05
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Rower_jason: 5.10 version04:05
_jasonRower: that's probably why.  Did 'sudo aptitude install lynx' not work?04:05
balu1nickrud: yes but i want to learn to distinguish between the two...so in a hex value.. how do i know which corresponds to the PCI?04:05
FunnyLookinHatve, haha, ok04:05
nickrudbalu1, it was the same in both configs you showed me04:05
Rower_jason: didnt work04:05
TheWrenchFalstius, why is itnot efficient?04:05
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balu1nickrud: i set that pci manually :X04:05
lgcI wish someone could help me with this: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that? How about you, _jason? Could you help me?04:05
OmegaAlphave, ok first i ran mount and saw it was sda1 but it was still reading so i waited and disconnected it and now its labeled as sdb1?04:05
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_jasonRower: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the online repos.  Then do 'sudo apt-get update'04:05
FunnyLookinHat_jason, perhaps have Rower use Synaptic?04:05
_jasonRower: do you have X?04:06
Rower_jason: no04:06
FunnyLookinHatew gros.04:06
nickrudbalu1, all I cared about pci values was that PCI:1: meant it was agp, everything else was bus04:06
wicked_hi! when i updates my sources list i got some of those failed, i did it in console and saw those ing thing... what r those?04:06
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FalstiusTheWrench: applications in Linux don't eat up harddrive in the same way as windows so devoting a large amount of space to them is impratical (unless you're running special CAD software or some such)04:06
am3r1caintelikey ok !! thanks ill give it a go04:06
balu1nickrud: but its not an AGP card??04:06
Rower_jason: the final thing is that i want it to run as a server machine for cgi irc =) and its my first time trying to install linux.. :D04:06
balu1nickrud: im using a PCI card.04:06
_jasonRower: k, just uncomment the lines that start with ``deb'' in /etc/apt/sources.list04:06
intelikeyam3r1ca it kinda sounds like you made a partition and file system that didn't match and windows read it wrong and compounded the problem.04:06
FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell wicked_ about easysource04:07
crxyemcan parted or qtparted resize ntfs partitions ?/04:07
_jasonRower: are you comfortable editing files in the terminal?04:07
am3r1caintelikey ok04:07
FunnyLookinHatwicked_, that should help you out, let me know04:07
wicked_funny thats where i went.. then i activated the gpg04:07
Rower_jason: yeah..04:07
Falstiuscrxyem: you should check the website.04:07
nickrudbalu1, sudo lspci -v has the reference numbers (don't wanna say canonical)04:07
_jasonRower: k, just making sure :)04:07
OmegaAlphabrb04:07
Rower_jason: done it 2 times before =P04:07
crxyemgood idea04:07
TheWrenchFlastius: so you are not saying the formats are inefficient, just the sizes of the partitions?04:07
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Rower_jason: running linux on this machine to.. but the problem is that im running a dualcore cpu..04:08
intelikeywhere is crimsun ?04:08
Rowerand also, cant get the audio drivers correct..04:08
lgcnalioth, cafuego _jason could anyone of you help me with tonight's beef?04:08
naliothlgc: what cut would that be?04:08
FalstiusTheWrench: yep.  Although fat32 is pretty lame ... ext3 with ext3 drivers for windows or NTFS support in Linux is nicer ... but those both take some special loving.  So go with fat32 your first time.04:08
nightvisionsup04:08
crimsunintelikey: he's fighting ssh tunneling atm04:08
_jasonlgc: you want it to remember your last session or no?04:08
DarkMageZToma-: :P these patches are great fun04:09
wicked_what does ign stand for.. ex: Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Sources04:09
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balu1nickrud: u misunderstand me, i just want to know how to read the value, so like if i did lspci, i get a hex value of 0000:01:00.0, i f i wanted to enter a PCI: x:x:x  howd i type it?04:09
naliothwicked_: ignore, cuz it already has that file04:09
intelikeycrimsun would you beep me when you have a minute?04:09
Toma-DarkMageZ: oh rly04:09
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crimsunintelikey: sure04:09
lgc_jason, nalioth: here it is again: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that?04:09
carnyhello04:09
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wicked_ho ok so that might be the reason why it failed i guess04:09
naliothlgc: uncheck the box for 'remember this session'04:09
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DarkMageZToma-: ya, i sucessfully stuffed it up :)04:09
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Toma-oh no :(04:10
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carnyis there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???04:10
carnyis there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???04:10
carnyis there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???04:10
Rower_jason: hmmza.. couldt edit the file :D04:10
am3r1caintelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??04:10
_jasoncarny: that only gets you ignored04:10
tonyyarussocarny: First, to be more likely to get help don't flood.04:10
_jasonRower: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:10
Toma-carny: repeating gets you onto my ignore list04:10
Roweraah nano was the command :D04:10
carnyyeh well i get ignored either way04:10
carnyplease04:10
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ph1qt10n!sound04:10
balu1not sure if im explaining myself well x04:10
ubotufrom memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary04:10
naliothubotu: tell carny about attitude04:10
balu1:x04:10
carnyive asked about 10 times and ive been ignored every time04:10
lgcnalioth, that option is on the logout window, if I am correct. The problem is that I end up with the same "$#%# old session!04:10
nickrudbalu1, :)04:10
naliothph1qt10n: why are you flooding this channel?04:11
_jason!ati04:11
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:11
nickrudbalu1, I04:11
intelikeycarny there is a quick to get banned from the channel,  just do that repete thing again   :)04:11
carnythankyou :D04:11
balu1nickrud  did ya get what i was saying? ;x04:11
ph1qt10nam i flooding it?04:11
lewixFunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default04:11
nickrudbalu1, yeah, and I am not a PCI calculator, I guess :)04:11
naliothph1qt10n: /msg ubotu msg the bot04:11
tonyyarussocarny: That probably means nobody who knows is here at the time that you ask.04:11
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TheWrenchFalstius: ok, now for the dumb questions.  why do you say 10g for / and 15g for /home?  what does this mean? alternatively, where should I go to find out?04:11
_jasonlgc: system > preferences > sessions, was what nalioth was referring to I believe04:11
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balu1nickrud: now im really confused, i thot it was just a difference in formats..?04:11
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rishihey buys04:12
rishiguys*04:12
rishii have a question...04:12
EleafCan anybody else give me some dns servers?04:12
nickrudbalu1, exactly, and I don't even get close enough to that kind of stuff to be able to roll it off the top of my head.04:12
am3r1caintelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??04:12
rishiis dapper flight 5 pretty much usable04:12
rishi?04:12
Toma-rishi: yep04:12
shivam I just imagining things or the audio in kinux appears actually better than windows?04:12
balu1nickrud: dang.. k didnt kno it was that complicated04:12
RemyLaptopHey guys, I managed to remove the clock from the system tray (top right hand corner04:12
FalstiusTheWrench: / will be where all of your system configuration and program files go.  And where your logs and such are.  /home is where your personal configuration and files will be.04:12
tonyyarussorishi: You can get details in #ubuntu+1 too.04:12
shivam I just imagining things or the audio in linux appears actually better than windows?04:12
lewixFunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default04:13
RemyLaptophow do I get it back ?04:13
mytrueheroI'm afraid I'm stumped here... I'm trying to curl a URL that includes an ampersand, but the result of "curl http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1&b=2" is just "http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1" that is, it only grabs everything before the first ampersand04:13
intelikeyam3r1ca if you leave them alone it wont do a thing to them04:13
Rowerapt-get update04:13
rishiso if i download and install dapper flight 5...once it becomes a release, will it update it automatically, or will i have to reinstall?04:13
am3r1caintelikey ok thanks04:13
_jasonRemyLaptop: right click on the panel > add to panel > clock04:13
nickrudbalu1, I don't even know if it's complicated, I just know enough to recognize different dialects04:13
RemyLaptopI can't get it to appear in the right most panel though....04:13
FalstiusGenerally, programs and logs won't get about 5GB, but 10 leaves plenty of room for temp files and a few big games if you lean that way.04:13
RemyLaptoponly on the middle panel04:13
lgc_jason, I don't see any pertinent option (except perhaps "automatically save session changes", which is not selected)04:13
intelikeyam3r1ca uf you tell cfdisk to delete them it will....  so use good sense.04:13
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balu1nickrud: i c, well i just thot something was wrong when u said that PCI : 1 = agp, but im running a pci card04:13
MadpilotRemyLaptop, after you get it back, right-click on it & select Move04:13
EleafAnybody know of any dns servers I can use?04:13
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freenodes:(:::04:14
RemyLaptopStill can't move it to the right...04:14
tonyyarussoRemyLaptop: Drag and drop?04:14
RemyLaptopit will only move inside the middle top panel04:14
freenodes4.2.2.204:14
MadpilotEleaf, your own ISP should supply those?04:14
freenodes4.2.2.304:14
naliothlgc: i'm not sure where in your homedir it saves session info04:14
Eleafyes04:14
_jasonlgc: you can delete ~/.gnome2/session, I believe it's where it gets stored04:14
RemyLaptopMoving it doesn't work either...04:14
freenodesthat was for eleaf04:14
EleafMadpilot, but I need some more, I don't even want to explain my situation, sorry04:14
intelikeyam3r1ca don't forget to write to disk before you exit.04:14
Eleafalright04:14
Eleaffreenodes, those work?04:14
lewix how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default04:14
MadpilotEleaf, no idea, sorry04:14
lgc_jason, nalioth, thanks. Let me check that out...04:14
freenodesyep theyre some big provider04:14
EleafMadpilot, yea,  it's such a big thing, it would take forever to explain04:15
Eleafthanks freenodes !04:15
EleafI'll try them now04:15
rishiwait, so if i d/l dapper flight 5, will it update to release?04:15
lewix how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default or how can i uninstall xine04:15
nickrudbalu1, like I said, I can recognize dialects, but context matters: ok , it's 2. sorry. Not the first time I've gotten details wrong, won't be the last. Heh.04:15
naliothrishi: yes it will04:15
brobertsmytruehero: Did you try to backslash it?  http://foo.com/bar.php\?a=1\?b=204:15
_jasonlewix: in firefox you mean?04:15
rishisweet...one more question...does dapper 5 have all the xgl goodness?04:15
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lewixjason yes04:16
naliothrishi: it does not. you can add it, tho04:16
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am3r1caintelikey i think i found whats wrong, in the cfdisk comand the fat 32 is sda6, and in fstab its sda704:16
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rishiah...okay, i think i saw that tutorial on digg04:16
lewix_jason, that's exactly what i mean04:16
am3r1casda 7 in cfdisk is swap04:16
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am3r1cathats why it didnt find anything04:16
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lgc_jason, Bingo! It actually was the one from a month ago. Thanks!04:16
am3r1ca:)04:16
intelikeyam3r1ca that'll do it.04:16
balu1nickrud: the only reason i was concerned is, if i defined my card as something it isnt, it could cause probs04:16
_jasonlewix: hrmm, I don't know what package provides the xine plug-in.  You've installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer already?04:17
am3r1caso now i just have to edit fstab corresponding with the info in the cfdisk ??04:17
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mytrueherobroberts: that works. thanks :)04:17
TheWrenchok, so: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 10GB (ext3) for /, 15GB (ext3) for /home, 110GB (fat32) for media.04:17
balu1nickrud: well thnks for ur help anyway man..that was alot of time.04:17
rishihave you guys played with the xgl xororaa or whatever04:17
rishigood lord04:17
rishiits sweet04:17
balu1appreciate it*04:17
TheWrenchnow, how do I go about creating an ext3 partition?04:18
intelikeyam3r1ca that is not what was giving the error can not open sda7  message in fdisk -l   it should NOT report on non-existant partitions.  so  there is a test you can use.04:18
rishibut nothing is more nub friendly than ubuntu...and i am one of those.04:18
FalstiusTheWrench, don't forget 1 GB for swap space (that is what Linux uses when it runs out of RAM).04:18
naliothrishi: once you go to dapper, discussion is in #ubuntu+104:18
rishiokay...thanks nalioth...i really appreciate the help.04:18
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lewixyes I installed mozilla-mplayer..I think i installed mplayer a long time ago , I;m not sure though . How can I check it out04:18
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intelikeyTheWrench with the ubuntu installer maybe ?04:19
FalstiusTheWrench: do you have a blank disk now?  It is easier to install windows first and Linux second.  You can create empty partitions in the windows install and then format them during the Linux install.04:19
veOmegaAlpha, fall out?04:19
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mordofhow do i grab all the dependancies for a package?04:19
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cleit0nhi, how i install one modem intel 537 in kubuntu?04:19
TheWrenchok.  Anything else like that that I might need to know (the swap space)?04:19
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_jasonlewix: try running 'mplayer' in a terminal would be one way.  Put ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:19
intelikeyTheWrench sudo cfdisk if you are in linux and this is another drive.04:19
nickrudbalu1, I was multitasking, but np. You have the right xorg, get a decent log showing 1024x76804:19
TheWrenchthe drive crashed, i am writing zeros to it now04:19
naliothmordof: apt-get does it for you04:19
mordofnalioth, i wan't to compile the package from source04:20
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OmegaAlphave, no i had a kernel upgrade and didnt know that i had to restart the computer for it to finish i guess upgrading.. but i didnt see the upgrade in the upgrade menu.. so i dont think whatever it did.. didnt work haha04:20
_jasonlewix: also, can you prefix your messages with '_jason' please so that I don't miss them04:20
mordofthere is a newer version than the repos have04:20
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TheWrenchI am on a different (windows) computer now04:20
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ITSa341Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?04:20
pvd2006I noticed in the Ubuntu documentation to install Limewire it had this link, but the link is now broken does anyone know where to get limewire for Ubuntu?04:20
percent_20what is the config file for aptget?04:21
lewix_jason, thanks again. hmm so I just time ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:21
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ITSa341pvd2006  Limewire.com04:21
intelikeyTheWrench i don't use swap.  if you want to use swap partition 2x ram is plenty  on all newer systems.   1x ram for those with 1g+ ram04:21
FalstiusTheWrench, you should probably put the partitions in the right order, something like C:, /, swap, extended(D:, /home, media)04:21
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ITSa341pvd2006   the stock Limewire release works just fine in Ubuntu 5.10  I run it myself04:21
pvd2006Ill check it04:21
_jasonlewix: just run the command and copy and paste to that site, then give me a link04:21
OmegaAlphave, i unmounted and did fsck it now says /Unfinished DLs Contains a free cluster (275286). Assuming EOF. Reserved field in VFAT long filename slot is not 0 (but 0xa7). 1: Fix. 2. leave it04:21
pvd2006Oh ok04:21
pvd2006no spyware/adware?04:22
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ITSa341Nope04:22
intelikeybut of course you could have 2g ram and 100g swap if you want it.04:22
pvd2006ok cool04:22
Falstiusintelikey: why don't you use swap?  you've never had a runaway proccess eat all your memory and cause a kernel panic?04:22
pvd2006Thanks04:22
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naliothpvd2006: use frostwire if you don't want any chance of spyware adware04:22
percent_20how can i enable restricted repos?04:22
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ITSa341pvd2006  It worked flawlessly for me04:22
intelikeyFalstius oom killer takes care of that.04:22
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percent_20!nonfree04:23
Myrthhi, apt-get upgrade says that libapr0 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-common apache2-utils libpq4 can't be authenticated - is it a problem?04:23
ubotupercent_20: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:23
ITSa341pvd2006 Frostwire is almost identical and it's in the repositories04:23
percent_20!non-free04:23
ubotupercent_20: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:23
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TheWrenchI have 500MB ram, so 1GB swap sounds good to me.04:23
pvd2006Ohhh ok.04:23
pvd2006That will work04:23
lgc_jason, do you know how04:23
PuMpErNiCkLepercent_20: system -> administration -> synaptic -> settings -> repos -> settings04:23
intelikeyFalstius and if it didn't it wouldn't matter how much swap you had it would still fill it all up and panic anyway.04:23
jakedahnHey, can someone upload to pastebin, what the /etc/apt/sources.list looks like for Dapper?04:23
rohanRemyLaptop: you still struggling with the clock???04:23
_jasonlgc: sorry, how what?04:23
ITSa341Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?04:23
PuMpErNiCkLepercent_20: check the box 'show disabled repos'04:23
pvd2006is it under mutliverse?04:23
Falstiusintelikey: takes longer :)04:24
lgc_jason, sorry. Do you know how can I add elements to the Gnome menus?04:24
PuMpErNiCkLepercent_20: Then go back to the 'repos' window and enable them all.04:24
veOmegaAlpha, fix?  you must decide04:24
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ITSa341pvd2006  I'm not sure which repo and not running my Ubuntu machine right now04:24
_jasonlgc: system tools > applications menu editor04:24
naliothubotu: tell percent_20 about repos04:24
veOmegaAlpha, I don't know the history of the drive, or the sensitivity of the data04:24
TheWrenchFalstius: you are saying I must create the partitions is a specific order?04:24
percent_20PuMpErNiCkLe:swee thank you04:24
PuMpErNiCkLepercent_20: np :)04:24
RowerWhen im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D04:24
OmegaAlphave can you message me04:25
lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017104:25
FalstiusTheWrench: no, but there are limitations.  If you put / too far back on the disk grub won't work (atleast older versions wouldn't, I haven't tried with the latest and greatest).04:25
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percent_20nalioth: thank you coouldn't remember multivers or universe ty04:25
carny!ati04:25
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:25
Falstiusbut Windows wants to install on the first partition, so it helps to make linux the second.04:25
_jasonlewix: get rid of kaffeine-mozilla package04:25
carny!ati rage pro04:25
ubotucarny: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:26
crxyemwell, my / is pretty much the last partition and no problems here04:26
lewixit was told to install it in the wiki04:26
naliothubotu: tell carny about ati04:26
Falstiuscrxyem: on a 200 GB disk?04:26
_jasonlewix: link?04:26
lewix_jason, I don't know how to get rid of it04:26
intelikeyFalstius yeah.... and i have one box with no usb and every linux i have installed on it yet, boots to a point where it sets up usb and "runs away" there,  if it has to fill swap it takes a long time for it to oomK and continue the boot,  without swap about 5 minutes.   so  there are pros & cons  to everything.04:26
crxyemum, oops a 40GB04:26
lewixhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6766cd689854da82b6ce8c6563b42f617e42639804:26
balu1nickrud: what did u say bout refresh rates? did they ahve to be a minimu of a #hz?04:26
veOmegaAlpha, I msg'd..you there?04:26
_jasonlewix: use synaptic or just do: sudo aptitude remove kaffeine-mozilla04:27
OmegaAlphayeah i didnt get it04:27
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am3r1caintelikey it mounted, thanks alot04:27
intelikeyam3r1ca np    welcome04:27
lewix_jason, thanks. It's done04:27
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_jasonlewix: restart firefox and it should be using mplayer04:27
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lgc_jason, I can't find exactly that. What seems more like it is "system > preferences > menus and toobars" (well, more or less. I'm translating from Spanish).04:28
lewixwhat happened to xine04:28
veOmegaAlpha, odd...I'm using gaim...dunno what the prob could be04:28
pvd2006:-\ I dont see frostwire on the list04:28
lewix_jason, what happened to xine ?04:28
intelikeyso anyone know an easy way to auto launch an app when twm starts ?04:28
pvd2006im searching through, "ALL"04:28
OmegaAlphave, i sent you a message did you get it?04:28
naliothintelikey: .twcrc ?04:28
_jasonlewix: you still have xine if you had it before, just not the kaffeine plugin for firefox04:28
nickrudbalu1, if you want to check that idea of mine, drop the horizsync 10%, & the vertfresh 20%.04:29
naliothintelikey: er, .twmrc04:29
veOmegaAlpha, nope...afraid not04:29
_jasonlgc: it should be in applications menu > system tools, the command is 'smeg' if you want to run it form a terminal04:29
intelikeynalioth just make one ?    with the command i want to run in it ?04:29
lewix_jason,  I just restarted mozilla but xine is still set as the default player04:29
OmegaAlphave, no i think my xchat is messed up04:29
balu1nickrud: k ill take a look04:29
crimsunintelikey: ping04:29
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nickrudbalu1, most hypotheses never see the light of day04:29
_jasonlewix: hrmm, pastebin the same ls command from before again04:29
veOmegaAlpha, use AIM/MSN/Yahoo...could use one of those04:29
Falstiuscrxyem: I was looking for the GRUB boot partition limit but can't find it .. I think its like 80GB but that's just a guess.04:29
naliothintelikey: there probably is no such thing as a .twmrc, i just said it to make you think04:29
intelikeycrimsun you good with alsa problems ?04:29
crimsunintelikey: as long as hardware isn't the culprit04:30
_jasonlewix: wait, when you say mozilla, do you actually mean mozilla or firefox?04:30
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balu1nickrud: absolutley no reason for this to not work i muts be doing something or the other wrong04:30
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balu1nickrud: i had to define most of the xorg myself to set voodoo as primary vid card over my integrated vid card04:30
Falstiusintelikey: is oomK a standard part of the kernel or does it need to be installed and configured?04:30
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ITSa341balu1   got your email and will send you info in the morning04:30
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balu1itsaa341: im glad04:30
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balu1itsa341: im glad ;)04:31
intelikeycrimsun i've had it working under ubuntu before but this time i cant seem to get it to work....  alsamixer E: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory04:31
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intelikeyFalstius default afik04:31
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balu1nickrud: holy shit i dno wha ti did but its working at 1024 res :x04:31
veOmegaAlpha, I could try trillian's irc on my windows laptop...but, I dunno I'm feeling lazy :P04:31
lewix_jason, firefox04:31
pvd2006I am just going to download limewire. they only have it as RPM, hmmm.04:31
lewixsorry04:31
pvd2006oh well, good time to learn that.04:31
OmegaAlphave, anyways i got another message asking if i want to fix numbering (truncating long name to a short name, delete LFN or ignore04:31
lewix_jason, I forgot the site to paste stuff04:31
crimsunintelikey: cat /proc/asound/cards04:31
balu1nickrud: i reconfigured xserver.. wtf this is cooky.. so how can i see if direct rendering works now?04:31
nickrudbalu1, you got the right values into xorg.conf. save that one as your acell04:31
jasonkang86umm...04:31
_jasonlewix: it's in /topic but it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:31
nickrud*accel04:31
ITSa341pvd2006  get the "other" version04:31
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OmegaAlphalol i dont know how to use yahoo messenger or msn to message someone on irc04:32
jquixoteanyone running an ati mobility x300 ?04:32
jasonkang86can we use Linux Ubuntu to learn how to hack?04:32
balu1nickrud: cant i just leave this as my permanent xorg? i dont mind it04:32
nickrudbalu1, glxconfig | grep direct04:32
RowerWhen im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D04:32
lewix_jason, isn't mozilla the same as firefox ?04:32
OmegaAlphai know how to sign on irc with gaim but im already signed here with xchat04:32
intelikeycrimsun you want that pastebined or is there a specific line you want ?04:32
veOmegaAlpha, no worries....04:32
Falstiusintelikey: okay ... I was doing some reading up.  Now that I know what it is, I've seen this in action before when it couldn't find any proccesses to kill to free memory and then still kernel panicked (that was some really badly configured machine)04:32
crimsunintelikey: pastebinned, please04:32
_jasonlewix: there's also a mozilla web browser04:32
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balu1nickrud: glxconfig: command not found? err..04:32
veOmegaAlpha, sounds like good stuff to fix....04:32
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Xenguynickrud: Hi again - I think I got that OOo problem mostly licked, thanks to some kind soul on the OOo channel...04:32
pvd2006ah alright found it04:32
jasonkang86can we learn how to hack?04:33
jquixotebalu1: you need fglrx installed04:33
lewix_jason, Im talking about firefox web browser04:33
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olliehi all04:33
nickrudbalu1, glxinfo, I'm busy (listening to chatter on the phone)04:33
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intelikeycrimsun actually its only 2 lines "0 [AD1816A        ] : AD1816A - ADI SoundPort AD1816A                ADI SoundPort AD1816A, SS at 0x100, irq 5, dma 1&0"04:33
_jasonlewix: k04:33
veOmegaAlpha, obviously it recognizes the file system.....good sign04:33
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percent_20is there going to be an pudate for badger to gnome 2.14 when it comes out?04:33
Xenguynickrud: it was much simpler solution than I expected :-)04:33
balu1nickrud: glxinfo WOOOOOOOOOOOO directrendering on! we have 3d accel! LIFTOFF04:33
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iGotNoTimeDoes anyone here use Meebo.com?04:33
nickrudbalu1, ok!04:33
jquixotewhat is glxconfig? I thought it was aticonfig04:33
Xenguynickrud: anyway styles are our friend I think04:33
iGotNoTimeI am not advertising, my question goes further into depth04:33
balu1nickrud: THANK YOU man. serously.04:33
jon_04:33
nickrudXenguy, they usually are, we are blind (and lazy, in this case)04:33
balu1nickrud: can i add a snippet to your wikki??04:33
crimsunintelikey: ok. Does ``alsamixer -c0'' work?04:33
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_jasonjon_: /join #ubuntu-zh04:33
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jasonkang86jon_: here all european04:34
Xenguynickrud: I was overcomplicating things in this case04:34
nickrudbalu1, please. that was the first one I did, sort of as a test. It needs work.04:34
jasonkang86me chinese04:34
veOmegaAlpha, I think I'm having issues of my own...I'll brb04:34
jasonkang86XD04:34
OmegaAlphave, yeah but looks like i got alot of errors04:34
intelikeycrimsun alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:0: No such file or directory04:34
vegonna reboot04:34
OmegaAlphave, im still answering alot of questions fixing stuff04:34
crimsunintelikey: lsmod output, please04:34
balu1nickrud: lovely :) i get to contribute back to the community!04:34
OmegaAlphave, ok04:34
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iGotNoTimedoes anyone have a suggestion for displaying a live webpage as my desktop background?04:34
pvd2006Itsa341: ok I found the other Limewire download how do I install it again? I am pretty new to linux forgot which command to use04:35
intelikey!paste04:35
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.04:35
XenguyiGotNoTime: change your nick to MultimediaMan :-)04:35
ITSa341pvd2006  this is the version I use (click the "other OS2 solaris, linux)04:35
BlippeiGotNoTime, doesn't gdesklet have that feature?04:35
iGotNoTimeXenguy ??04:35
lgc_jason, the closest I get is "applications > system tools > configuration editor", but it lists a myriad of options, not just (and not) the few ones I have on the menu. On the other hand, "smeg" doesn't exist on my system (I'm on good old Hoary).04:35
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pvd2006yes04:35
lewix_jason, please don't forget me lol04:35
pvd2006that is the one I downloaded04:35
iGotNoTimeBlippe I don't know, does it?04:35
ITSa341go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh04:35
iGotNoTimeBlippe I will search04:36
XenguyiGotNoTime: humour'; there must be a way tho04:36
Blippei think so...04:36
_jasonlewix: did you pastebin that ls command?04:36
ITSa341pvd2006 go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh04:36
crxyemso anyone familiar with acpi and resulting issues with samba04:36
iGotNoTimeXenguy sorry just a littel tired :)04:36
balu1wow fixing stuff in linux is way more frustrating + gratifying than windows ;p04:36
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_jasonlgc: install smeg, I think it is in hoary repos.  Let me know if you can't find it04:36
TheWrenchso, in order:04:36
intelikeycrimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1017304:36
XenguyiGotNoTime: ahh, me too actually :-)04:36
TheWrenchC:      25GB  (NTFS) for windows04:36
ITSa341pvd2006 there should be a readme or a txt file with instructions04:36
intelikeycrimsun that's just the snd portion.04:36
lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017404:36
FalstiusTheWrench, don't paste them to their own lines ...04:36
TheWrenchok04:36
TheWrenchsorry04:37
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crimsunintelikey: k, entire lsmod output, please04:37
_jasonlewix: you sure you closed all instances of firefox?04:37
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Alex2I am new to Ubuntu and have tried the LiveCD on an emachine with wireless, everything worked but the wireless, any hints...I am leary of trying the full install if the woreless will not work.04:37
lewixsure04:38
lgc_jason, "smeg" seems not to be on the repositories.04:38
cleit0nae uma duvida os procedimentos pra instalar um modem intel num ubuntu seria o mesmo num debian? ou muda?04:38
OmegaAlphawhat does it mean when fsck asks you if you want to drop a directory?04:38
lewix_jason, I'm sure04:38
rishiguys, where do i go to download dapper04:38
_jasonlewix: 'killall firefox-bin' just to be certain04:39
intelikeycrimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1017504:39
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naliothubotu: tell rishi about upgrade04:39
intelikeydon't know what differance that makes but there ya are.04:39
RemyLaptophey guys, I changed the theme on my system, and now the icon for the trash can has dissapeared... any ideaS?04:39
FalstiusPortuguese?04:39
_jason!pt04:39
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.04:39
techrush its garbage day04:39
_jasonlgc: you have universe and multiverse enabled?04:39
BlippeAlex2, you might wanna try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25398.html04:39
techrushtrash truck must have thrown away your can04:39
techrush:(04:40
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rishinalioth...ubotu didn't tell me04:40
rishihaha04:40
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TheWrenchso, inorder. C: (25GB NTFS) for windows, / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32).04:40
naliothrishi: look at your private messages04:40
lewix_jason, the same result..it doesnt work04:40
crxyemhello any help with acpi issues ?04:40
rishiwoah.04:40
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lgc_jason, yes.04:40
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FalstiusTheWrench: that should work happily.  How much RAM do you have?04:40
_jasonlewix: it still loads xine?04:40
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lewix_jason, yep04:41
bassinboyok, my dns report shows I have Lame nameservers, what file do I edit to delete those04:41
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, ve, here04:41
TheWrenchFalstius:and to do this, I install windows first, leaving blank partitions, then install ubuntu?04:41
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lewix_jason, can't I just uninstall xine ?04:41
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OmegaAlphavercellone, welcome back04:41
TheWrenchFalstius:500megs04:41
Guest63120where is the download directory of lynx04:41
TylerWaltsHi, I was trying to follow the Ubuntu starter guide to install Java Firefox plugin:  (sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5) but then it gives an error:  "E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate04:41
TylerWalts" - am I missing a repository or something?04:41
FalstiusTheWrench: that is the easiest way.  You should probably make a 1GB partition for "swap" too.04:41
MrRioopening beagle search, in the about window just says 'Desktop Search 0.0'04:41
bluefoxicyubotu: anjuta04:41
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluefoxicy04:41
_jasonlewix: wel you removed the plugin, do this and pastebin and results: 'locate kaffeineplugin.so'04:41
FalstiusIt can go anywhere.04:41
crimsunintelikey: the 'sound' (OSS/Free) module is loaded. Please unload it and all the ALSA modules, then reload the ALSA ad1816a driver (modprobe -r sound snd-ad1816a && modprobe snd-ad1816a)04:41
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, I'm using trillian now...sent you a msg...I take it you didn't receive it still?04:42
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naliothGuest63120: the directory that you start it from04:42
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_jasonin Hoary, wasn't smeg available in the repos?  which one?04:42
OmegaAlphavercellone, nope sorry04:42
RemyLaptop!smeg04:42
ubotuAlacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/04:42
BlippeTheWrench,  C: (24GB NTFS) for windows, e: (1gig ntfs) for virtual memory, (swap) (1gig) / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32)04:42
OmegaAlphavercellone, what is the context of the word 'drop' when using fsck?04:42
intelikeycrimsun done,   same error.04:42
_jasonlgc: see ubotu's message above I guess.  But I could have sworn it was in the repos :)04:42
OmegaAlphavercellone, im getting alot of messages asking if i want to drop directories and files04:43
crimsunintelikey: and /proc/asound/cards still reports the ad1816a as valid?04:43
BlippeTheWrench, why 40 gig warez?04:43
lewix_jason,  I installed the mozilla-kaffein package at the same time I installed mozzilla-firefox. Xine was already installed04:43
nalioth_jason: it was not available, iirc04:43
FalstiusBlippe: probably DVD images of games ...04:43
lewix_jason, then I installed w32codecs04:43
BlippeFalstius, why not put them in a 150gig media?04:43
intelikeycrimsun just a sec... re trying and got this.   devfs_remove: sound/audio not found, cannot remove04:43
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_jasonlewix: ok check 'about:plugins' in the firefox url bar and see if it is using mplayer or not04:44
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, not good, I believe that deletes04:44
TheWrenchBlippe, Flastius: i have lots of large windows applications.  Actually, no games.04:44
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intelikeycrimsun and    "pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 01:01.01.     ad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure "04:44
FalstiusBlippe, you can't mount fat32 as folders in NTFS, you can with NTFS/NTFS?  I dunno.04:44
lgc_jason, I'm on it.04:44
intelikeynow check the card crimsun ?04:44
OmegaAlphavercellone, i got a message saying one of my music files has a bad file name and wants to know if i want to drop the file, or rename it, auto rename it, or keep it... these are the kind of messages im getting.. alot of them04:44
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jquixoteanyone notice how ubuntu and digg are such good friends?04:45
XenguyI can dig it :-)04:45
crimsunintelikey: ah. Please forcibly unload ALSA: invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload04:45
BlippeFalstius, i thought you could with fat, shows what i know!04:45
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jakedahnok, who here is running dapper?04:45
intelikeycrimsun ok04:45
jakedahnanyone?04:45
laggerzeroHello, I'm running into some troubles with dapper (yeah I know it's alpha)04:45
laggerzerome04:45
_jasonjakedahn: #ubuntu+1 for dapper04:45
TheWrenchBlippe: i wanted the media partition to contain files that i would use from both operating systems04:45
laggerzeroand the problem is not XGL!04:45
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, might want to google the text of the error.....I don't have experience with that one04:45
Blippejakedahn,  try #ubuntu+104:45
OmegaAlphavercellone, like right now.. all my files names have changed.. and i cant see them how i used to.. like there are more. and the names are of ascii characters.. really mumbo jumbo... and the same with the sub directories04:45
fatehazejakedahn, #ubuntu+104:45
SlicerDicercan somebody help me figure out why when I try to sudo it says "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname ()"04:45
jakedahnkk04:45
laggerzeroi'm getting some tcltk errors04:46
_jasonSlicerDicer: put the contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:46
jquixotemy ubuntu is so slow04:46
intelikeycrimsun k that seems to have worked. now ?04:46
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OmegaAlphadoes ubuntu have a remoter terminal like program?04:46
Xenguyjquixote: define slow; what hardware?04:46
laggerzero__main__.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"04:46
SlicerDicer_jason: I can tell you whats there hehe :)04:46
laggerzeroanyone know what that means?04:46
OmegaAlphai can let you see it lol its messy04:46
_jasonSlicerDicer: that works too04:46
crimsunintelikey: please confirm no ALSA modules are loaded (``lsmod|grep ^snd'' -> nothing)04:46
laggerzeroi get that on every app that tries to use tcl tk04:47
jquixoteXenguy: mobility x300; dell D81004:47
OmegaAlphathere are errors with the clusters on the drive.. i dont really know what a cluster is..04:47
crimsunintelikey: and neither ad1816 nor sound are loaded04:47
BlippeOmegaAlpha, you mean a graphical or a textbased?04:47
SlicerDicer_jason: '127.0.0.1 hostname' for /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname its 'hostname'04:47
Xenguyjquixote: that is hardware-speak to me04:47
jquixoteXenguy: I fear I didn't install fglrx correctly or something04:47
intelikeycrimsun confirmed04:47
OmegaAlphafor example i cant resize or move the partition because it comes up with too many errors and stops itself04:47
Xenguyjquixote: I stand aside for this question :-)04:47
bluefoxicyubotu: build04:47
ubotuIf you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with04:47
TheWrenchBlippe: well, no, but I don't have that much media either...04:47
crimsunintelikey: ok. Does ``modprobe snd-ad1816a'' still return a PnP error?04:47
OmegaAlphaBlippe, as in what? what the files look like?04:47
jquixoteXenguy: you wanted me to tell you the hardware04:48
jquixoteI thought04:48
intelikeyad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure04:48
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BlippeOmegaAlpha, as in the remote terminal...04:48
intelikeycrimsun ^04:48
_jasonSlicerDicer: I would think it would work like that, but my hosts looks like: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost hostname04:48
bluefoxicyubotu please give more detail, like saying that I could also apt-get source something essentials and then apt-get -b and have it install all needed build packages and build the package automaticalyl.04:48
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, bluefoxicy04:48
Xenguyjquixote: yes, you did, and I realize I can't help, so others must come forth04:48
bluefoxicysomebody make whatever i said make sense04:48
OmegaAlphaand then itll say that there are too many lost clusters or something liek that04:48
bluefoxicyand tell ubotu04:48
SlicerDicer_jason: ahh ok04:48
laggerzeroanyone have any idea?04:48
SlicerDicer_jason: time to livecd again :)04:48
OmegaAlphaBlippe, doesnt matter to me.. either or04:48
crimsunintelikey: ok, then you're facing a similar bug to Malone #1186804:48
iGotNoTimeBlippe I am new to Gdesklets, I have the engine installed and running but where do I begin looking for packages that work with it?04:48
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lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017604:49
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jquixoteothers: come forth, be plentiful04:49
_jasonSlicerDicer: make sure no typos and nothing extra in the files (newlines maybe)04:49
BlippeOmegaAlpha, ssh and/or vnc04:49
crimsunintelikey: Have you tried Dapper Flight 4 and Dapper Flight 5 live cds?04:49
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OmegaAlphaBlippe, if i view the harddrive via terminal it still shows the crazy file names and how everythign has changed04:49
intelikeycrimsun i'm on dialup.04:49
intelikeyshort answer no.04:49
bluefoxicycrimsun:  any idea for a repo with dapper-ready anjuta 2.0.1?04:49
SlicerDicer_jason: yeah I just never had to do it like that before with other distros so I was not familar I will give it a shot see what happens04:49
_jasonlewix: 'locate gxineplugin.so'04:49
OmegaAlphaBlippe, umm whats vnc?04:49
BlippeiGotNoTime, not really sure, quite some time ago since i last used it04:49
balu1nickrud: blahh cant edit ur wiki. ubuntu keeps giving me some log in bs04:50
crimsunintelikey: still on Hoary, or using Breezy?04:50
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I know you guys have like 6 billion repos around :>04:50
intelikeycrimsun but i have had the sound working on this 5.4 before on this box.04:50
vejanquestion?????04:50
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, vnc is similar to remote desktop04:50
lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017704:50
vercellonenot secure or encrypted though04:50
Xenguy /xngy trs t tlk wth n vwls...04:50
laggerzeroi wasn't all to impressed with breezy04:50
laggerzeroI had so many issues with it04:50
OmegaAlphavercellone, oh how do i check to see which one i have if i do have any04:50
crxyemso anyone wanna answer an acpi Q ? ?04:50
iGotNoTimeBlippe, no big deal found a huge resource :) thx again for the tip04:50
vercelloneif connecting over public internet, you should use vnc04:50
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vejanfirefox will not connect to sun.com to get java04:51
vercelloneer, ssh04:51
crimsunbluefoxicy: not that I'm aware (at least not one blessed by archive.ubuntu.com)04:51
vercellonedoh04:51
laggerzeromainly because it seemed it was have gcc 4.0 and the other half gcc 3.404:51
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naliothubotu: tell vejan about javadebs04:51
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BlippeOmegaAlpha,  a program that providing remote access to the GUI, keyboard and mouse04:51
bluefoxicycrimsun:  seveas has some stuff laying around, the rest of you don't have anything?04:51
V4Vendettalaggerzero, that's not a problem ..04:51
_jasonlewix: k, see where gxineplugin.so is with 'locate gxineplugin.so'04:51
lewix_jason, it's loading04:51
laggerzeroit is when you have hardware driver conflicts04:51
XenguyOmegaAlpha: you need to run it tunnelled over SSH04:51
nate_anyone know of a good doc for creating preseed files for d-i for ubuntu?04:51
crimsunintelikey: do you happen to remember which kernel you were running when it did produce sound?04:51
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vejanTHANK U!!!!!04:51
bluefoxicydeb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid04:51
intelikeythis one.04:52
OmegaAlphaoh i dont really know how to do that stuff.. i remember someone tellign me about tunneling04:52
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, if you are running ubuntu, you can enable vnc by going to System->Preferences->REmote Desktop04:52
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jquixotehere's a question.. My desktop locked up and I had to restart.. now my apt-get doesn't work.. complains that "E: Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:52
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intelikeysame 2.6.10-5-386 crimsun04:52
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bluefoxicycrimsun:  acn you help me well-form this line?04:52
XenguyOmegaAlpha: just find a HOWTO - you can use SSH tunneling for a lot of things04:52
BlippeOmegaAlpha, if textbased is ok with you, you should look into ssh!04:52
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nate_jquixote, is something else that uses it open?  like the updater in the taskbar?04:52
vercellonebut, it listens on your external network interface by default....I'm trying to deal with that myself at the moment04:52
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jquixotenevermind.. was doing a an update.. tanks nate04:53
nate_no problem :D04:53
OmegaAlphavercellone, i enabled it04:53
crimsunintelikey: interesting. Have you added or removed any hardware?04:53
laggerzerohey I'm having some TCL TK issues04:53
SlicerDicer_jason: still not working04:53
OmegaAlphaXenguy, yeah thats what someone was telling me04:53
laggerzerois anyone else having them?04:53
vercelloneSSH tunnelling rocks.....I use it to remote desktop to my laptop at home04:53
nate_so, anyone know of any good docs for preseeding the debian-installer in ubuntu? :D04:53
jquixotebut I did have that problem before, and then just rm-ed the cache04:53
OmegaAlphaXenguy, i was asking the one day about doing networking stuff and thats when someone brought up putty and ssh and tunneling and being able to access my computer from anywhere04:54
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intelikeycrimsun nope.  that is what is throwing me.... it is not a wh issus in as much as it still works the same on other os's04:54
vercelloneBlippe, do you know where I can set vino-server command line options?04:54
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_jasonSlicerDicer: try a different hostname (in other words I don't know :))04:54
Franciscoanyone. can  help me. I junt wanna know how to insert a picture on kile. LATEX04:54
vercelloneBlippe, I want to either pass it the localhost option, or bind to a specific interface04:54
crimsunintelikey: /proc/interrupts contents?04:54
jquixoteyou know this gaim aint so bad for irc04:54
nate_OmegaAlpha, there's an app that's not available in ubuntu repos, but it integrates ssh and vnc in one app, it's prety nice04:54
intelikeysec04:54
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OmegaAlphaBlippe, text or gui doesnt matter.. whatever is easier first i guess since im kinda a newbie i havnt been using linux long.. and dont know much about networking.04:55
crimsunbluefoxicy: you need to state the candidate(s), like main contrib non-free04:55
XenguyOmegaAlpha: so you are looking for VNC tunneled over SSH?04:55
nate_OmegaAlpha, I think it's ne...something04:55
bluefoxicycrimsun:  thanks.04:55
lewixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017904:55
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_jasonSlicerDicer: what is your actual hostname?  it's not 'hostname' right?04:55
intelikeycrimsun unless you want them all  "  5:          2          XT-PIC  AD1816A"04:55
XenguyOmegaAlpha: if yes, use x11vnc04:55
lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1017904:55
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crxyemso anyone wanna help with an acpi issue04:55
crimsunintelikey: all would be most helpful04:55
zedzero_hellp04:55
OmegaAlphanate_, so it integrates both text and gui together?04:55
XenguyOmegaAlpha: a bit of a pain to configure, I thought, but do-able...04:55
nate_crxyem, i would, but i wouldn't be very helpful04:55
bluefoxicyGet:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe anjuta-common 1.2.4a-2 [5823kB] 04:56
crxyemlol04:56
nate_OmegaAlpha, yep :D04:56
XenguyOmegaAlpha:  I have an article somewhere04:56
bluefoxicycrimsun:  how do I force it to use sid ?04:56
OmegaAlphaXenguy, i dont know what that means hehe.. i dont remember what tunneling isi remember it was kinda simple though04:56
bluefoxicyi am trying to crossbuild anjuta 2.0.1 here.04:56
zedzero_can anyone please help me?04:56
nate_OmegaAlpha, I think it will probably be in dapper though04:56
_jasonlewix: thos are errors from your terminal after running locate gxineplugin.so?  did you get a chance to run 'sudo updatedb' before?04:56
Blippevercellone,  i guess a hack would be to bind its port to a specific interface04:56
intelikeycrimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1018004:56
Franciscosome body knows how to use LaTex??04:56
nate_zedzero_, what's the problem?04:56
naliothzedzero_: ask a question, please04:56
crimsunbluefoxicy: do you have a Dapper pbuilder configured?04:56
bluefoxicypbuilder?04:57
BlippeOmegaAlpha,  try starting vino-preferences04:57
OmegaAlphanate_, sounds cool i need to look into that as soon as i get this harddrive fixed so i can do all that networkign stuff that i want to do04:57
CloFanHow do I navigate to my secondary disk drive?04:57
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nate_OmegaAlpha, what's wrong with the drive?04:57
crimsunbluefoxicy: yeah, it'll be much easier to pbuilder build anjuta..dsc04:57
percent_20!64bit04:57
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_2004:57
TheWrenchBlippe, Falstius: does swap need to be called /swap?04:57
BlippeOmegaAlpha, but i don't know about its security04:57
percent_20!nvidia64bit04:57
pvd2006this is really weird, I Can't figure out my root password... How stupid is that....04:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_2004:57
XenguyOmegaAlpha: basically it just means that you can encrypt various services you use over the Net; also you can forward one port to another, to circumvent firewalls, and so on04:57
intelikeyCloFan is it mounted ?04:57
crimsonany body know where i can get a halflife f4or linux04:57
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&page=704:57
FalstiusTheWrench: no, you format it as swap (instead of ext3, fat, etc)04:57
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I have no idea what that is.  I'm just trying to grab http://packages.debian.org/experimental/gnome/anjuta with apt-get -b04:57
crimsonor if they have it04:57
zedzero_to get rid of gnome, i installed ubuntu as server , afterwards i installed fluxbox, and some xserver things i dont know. but now i dont know how to get into graphical interface, im using a command line irc client04:57
lewix_jason, one moment I'm doing it right now04:58
nate_zedzero_, startx04:58
CloFanintelikey, it was in windows. my main drive failed and I replaced it and put linux on because I can't find my windows disk.04:58
crimsunintelikey: do you have anything attached to your printer port?04:58
BlippeTheWrench, no... let the install decide the for your swap...04:58
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I added debian sid to sources.list and tried to tell it to apt-get build-dep anjuta and apt-get -b it.04:58
zedzero_nate, i tried that but it doesnt work. it says no such command exists04:58
lewix_jason, /usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so04:58
lewix/home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so04:58
lewix/home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so04:58
bluefoxicycrimsun:  do you have a better recommendation?04:58
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lewixoups sorry04:58
bluefoxicyubotu pbuilder04:58
ubotusomebody said pbuilder was a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto04:58
Falstiuszedzero_: startx04:58
OmegaAlphaBlippe, what vino.. how do i start the prefernces? do you mean wine?04:58
crimsunbluefoxicy: wait, 2.x is in experimental, not unstable, correct?04:58
lewixI forgot to paste04:58
intelikeycrimsun yes but not powered up.04:58
nate_zedzero_, what precisely are you trying to start up?  x?04:58
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zedzero_nate, yes04:59
bluefoxicycirmsun ah ok, so....?  Gimme some helph ere.04:59
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, how's that fsck going..did you finish?  Did your music files have ID3 tags, perhaps you can rename based on tags?04:59
Xenguypvd2006: I love your original question - it's so honest :-)04:59
nate_zedzero_, give me a minute04:59
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zedzero_nate, ok04:59
CloFanintelikey: how do I mount it in ubuntu?04:59
pvd2006XenGuy: lol04:59
BlippeOmegaAlpha, press alt-f2 and write vino-preferences04:59
OmegaAlphanate_, the entire partition got messed up during a resizing.. now all the directories and file names are different.. and there are more files than before and the drive doesnt look right in the partition programs. and i cant resize it or move it.. it says there are errors - bad clusters or soemthing04:59
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, vino-preferences just brings up the same thing as System->Preferences->RemoteDesktop04:59
_smd_I have gain v1.50 right now,  however i canot get any user info05:00
crimsunintelikey: could you disable lpt0 in bios and see if that permits the snd* modules to load successfully on boot?05:00
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Falstiuszedzero_: this probably doesn't help now, but most graphical apps in Linux use either gnome or kde libraries so you don't gain very much by not installing at least one of them :)05:00
_jasonlewix: pastebin 'ls /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/ /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/ && dpkg -S /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so'05:00
OmegaAlphaBlippe, i already enabled it05:00
nate_OmegaAlpha, time to reinstall my man.  You have to weigh the amount of work versus the benefits....05:00
TheWrenchBlippe, Falstius: does media need to be called something like F:, not just media?05:00
crimsunbluefoxicy: you can't pull it from unstable; you want to pull it from experimental05:00
Dr_WillisThers too many good gnome and kde aps out - to not install both. :P05:00
zedzero_falstius, i just wanted fluxbox because it was very lightweight05:00
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I can't make this pull from experimental either :(05:01
nate_zedzero_, i would install gnome, but use fluxbox as your WM05:01
lgc_jason, as far as I see, "smeg" and "alacarte" come from the same site. By the way, according to the ubuntuforums page I would need to enable backports on "sources.list". But they say it's kind of risky (why?). I'm still puzzled that I just can't edit the silly thing from the menu. How about enabling an icon for an application present? (For example, "AbiWord" appears with a generic icon, that I would like to change).05:01
bluefoxicycrimsun:  it keeps preferring dapper05:01
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OmegaAlphavercellone, i paused on it at the moment because i ketp getting alot of questions asking me to drop or rename the files.. and from what i seen in a file broswer.. there are shit loads of them.. ill be here all night05:01
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nate_zedzero_, type 'ls -l /usr/bin/startx'05:01
OmegaAlphaso i enabled vino now what05:01
crimsunbluefoxicy: you should use 'deb-src http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free'05:01
jquixoteHow do I check what display I'm running in right  now, :0 or :105:01
jquixote?05:01
OmegaAlphayeah someone told me last case scenario was to reformat05:01
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intelikeyCloFan someone could help you with a GUI way of doing that.    in cli do a "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mountpoint "    where mountpoint is some dir you want to use /mnt/disk for example  and  hdb1 assumes it is now first ide slave drive....05:01
nate_jquixote, if you didn't change anything, then it's :005:01
BlippeTheWrench, you have to mount it somewhere like /stuff,  I would recommend /home/media or /home/[username] /media05:01
crimsunbluefoxicy: then apt-get source -texperimental anjuta05:02
OmegaAlphabut someone said there is a way to recover the data in here earlier05:02
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bluefoxicycrimsun:  ah, I was just using deb-src http;//blahblahblah/debian experimental main05:02
zedzero_[A05:02
jquixotenate_: I changed all kinds of stuff ;005:02
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jquixote;)05:02
am3r1caHELP ?? anyone know why when i insert a torrent into Azureus it says setLengy failed and doesnt dl ???05:02
naliothlgc: alacarte is the latest version of smeg. they are both from the same author05:02
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OmegaAlphawhat is better anyways.. vnc or ssh?05:02
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, is it ext2?05:02
_smd_Also i hate amsn, but i like seeing user info,05:02
_jasonlgc: smeg should allow you to edit icons.  Backports can be risky because they are packages brought from the new release in development.  For example, the firefox backport in hoary messed up people's firefox for a while.  It's probably ok to use now imo05:02
OmegaAlphavnc is the gui and ssh is the text bases05:02
OmegaAlphavercellone, no fat3205:02
BlippeOmegaAlpha, ssh is safest05:02
Dr_WillisOmegaAlpha,  totally different tools for differnt tasks05:02
vercellonessh can be configured to be encrypted (very secure)05:02
Dr_Willis:P05:02
naliothlgc: i've never enabled backports, but then again, i am not one to whom "newer is better" BLING05:03
nate_OmegaAlpha, unless you understand what you did, anyone in here will be hard-pressed to help you recover it.  I can point you to a forensics liveCD which can recover nearly anything as long as the drive spins, but it's complicated05:03
Falstiusam3r1ca: maybe you're trying to download to somewhere without enough space or write permissions.05:03
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zedzero_nate, i dont have that file :(05:03
XenguyOmegaAlpha: orthogenal05:03
lewix_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1018105:03
pvd2006Besides re-installing linux, how can you obtain a new root password?05:03
CloFanintelikey: I foudn it in the Disk Manager, but the partitions are Windows NTFS.  Would that be a problem?05:03
naliothubotu: tell pvd2006 about root05:03
nate_zedzero_, then you don't have x installed, likely, so trying to start x is impossible05:03
zedzero_,nate, but i have startfluxbox, which doesnt work because it needs X to be started first05:03
Falstiusnate_: a free one?  What is it (for future reference)?05:03
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XenguyOmegaAlpha: er, orthogonal05:03
intelikeycrimsun yeah i can change the irq in the bios.    i can disable it for testing but it will have to be turned back on.  so if changing it wont work there is still a problem.   but that hasn't been tuched sense the last time sound was working in ubuntu05:03
zedzero_nate, thanks, how do i install x?05:03
OmegaAlphalol sounds like complicated stuff well im a newbie to some of this stuff05:03
intelikeyCloFan yes it sould05:03
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, ugh..FAT32 :(05:03
nate_Falstius, it is free: http://www.e-fense.com/helix05:03
Falstiuszedzero_: try running "startx"05:03
am3r1caFalstius i check, more than enough05:04
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I broke it.05:04
zedzero_falstius, it doesnt work05:04
_jasonlewix: 'rm /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so', restart firefox05:04
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, hope you backed up before resize05:04
naliothzedzero_: installing a desktop environment would do it05:04
Chris_Cdoes anyone know how to force a password change past the "too similar to old password" rejection?05:04
bluefoxicycrimsun:  it installed anjuta 1.4.2 from dapper or something and I ctrl+c'd it and it broke the dpkg database!  :O05:04
TheWrenchBlippe, I don't know about mounting. I have never used linux, could you give more detail?05:04
am3r1caFalstius, i am dling to a fat32 partiontion, so i can resume the dl when in windows05:04
bluefoxicydpkg: error processing anjuta (--remove):05:04
bluefoxicy Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should05:04
bluefoxicy reinstall it before attempting a removal.05:04
zedzero_nalioth, isnt fluxbox a desktop environment?05:04
pvd2006Nalioth: thanks, I didn't remember entering a root password ever, I thought I was going crazy at first.05:04
Falstiuszedzero_: I didn't think it would, but it might give us some errors to work from .. what does it say?05:04
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pvd2006until now I mean05:05
OmegaAlphawhat happened was i ran out of space on a fat32 partition at the end of the drive, i use it for my p2p downloads.. so i went to resize it to be bigger and move it to the beginning of the drive..partition magic frozed during it.. and this is what happened05:05
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am3r1cabut its wont start and says setLength failed !?!05:05
intelikeycrimsun i'll go play with it some more.   thanks for all the effort.   i'll let you know if i get it.05:05
nate_zedzero_, fluxbox is a window manager, not a desktop environment05:05
zedzero_falstius, it doesnt exist :)05:05
Falstiuszedzero, then you need to install xorg.05:05
lgcnalioth, _jason, thanks. But then how does an application installed by "apt-get" manages into the menu at all?05:05
nate_yep05:05
OmegaAlphavercellone, is fat32 bad? i had to use a fat because i use windows to use my p2p sharing05:05
crimsunintelikey: ok, thanks05:05
BlippeTheWrench, when you install ubuntu it will ask you about the mountpoint, it will feel a wee bit natural... linux uses a "root" / for all the media instead of A: b: C: D: etx05:05
Blippeetc05:05
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OmegaAlphaXenguy,  what do you mean orthogonal05:05
nate_zedzero_, just install gnome then select fluxbox as your window manager05:05
bluefoxicycrimsun:  the source line worked, how do I build it?05:05
naliothlgc: the pkg has a set of instructions inside to place the components of the pkg into their respective places upon installation05:06
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nate_OmegaAlpha, there are drivers for windows to read some linux filesystems that are far better than fat3205:06
Falstiuszedzero_: There is probably a cleaner way to do it, but you can run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"05:06
zedzero_nate, im not sure i did understand, isnt fluxbox a total substitue of gnome or kde? does fluxbox need gnome or kde to work?05:06
nate_OmegaAlpha, I think Reiser just came out with one and I think there has been an ext3 and ext2 one for a while05:06
lgcnalioth, I surmise. But do you know some of the details?05:06
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naliothzedzero_: it does not05:06
naliothlgc: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:06
crimsunbluefoxicy: make sure you have installed all the build-deps that are listed in debian/control:Build-Depends (or adjust them as necessary to fit what Dapper has), then ``debuild binary''05:06
nate_zedzero_, it needs xorg at least05:06
bluefoxicysudo apt-get build-dep -texperimental anjuta anjuta-common05:07
OmegaAlphanate_, i thought the exts were only for linux.. i heard of the reiser ones though...05:07
bluefoxicycrimsun:  :)05:07
CloFanintelikey, thanks, I figured it out!05:07
CryoToxAnyone know of a app for ubuntu that I can create flash with?05:07
zedzero_nate, can you please tell me which packages i need to install to get xorg? (xorg doesnt work)05:07
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bluefoxicycrimsun:  yes everytihng it grabbed came from dapper, not debian ;)05:07
nate_OmegaAlpha, exts ARE linux-use only, but there are drivers so windows can use them as well05:07
OmegaAlphanate_, its basically me using windows and downloading and having the fat32 fs just so i can be in linux and access them05:07
Dr_Williswindows can make use of ext2/3 with the right download. :P05:07
lgcnalioth, sure, but excuse the simple question. How? Something like /join #...?05:07
crimsunbluefoxicy: yeah, I can't generally recommend that with a mixed sources.list unless you have pinning enabled05:07
OmegaAlphanate_, crap wish i knew that earlier haha05:07
naliothlgc: /j #ubuntu-offtopic05:08
lewixouah05:08
nate_OmegaAlpha, you live, you learn :D05:08
nate_zedzero_, lemme look05:08
lewix_jason,  thanks05:08
lewix_jason,  thanks thanks thanks05:08
OmegaAlphai really dont want to format because illl lose everythign right?05:08
bluefoxicycrimsun:  i need to install debuild right?  I thought I could just apt-get -b -something -make-me-a-package it  :)05:08
percent_20unubtu uses xorg.conf doesn't it? cuz i keep configuring it but none of the chnages seem to take affect05:08
bluefoxicyE: Couldn't find package debuild05:08
OmegaAlphanate_, you said something about a live cd?05:08
crimsunbluefoxicy: devscripts05:08
_jasonlewix: np05:08
bluefoxicycrimsun:  on my way.  :)05:08
CryoToxLooked everywhere but I can't find a bloody program..05:08
nate_OmegaAlpha, http://www.e-fense.com/helix05:09
Rowerim getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem05:09
lewix_jason, no seriously THANKS lol...hmm finally linux isnt bad :)05:09
bluefoxicycrimsun:  do you recommend fakeroot or just running as root?  (dumb ass question but)05:09
Falstiuszedzero_: the base package is xserver-xorg ... but you'll probably need to grab the right drivers and such.05:09
nate_zedzero_, 'apt-get -y install xserver-xorg05:09
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crimsunbluefoxicy: fakeroot05:09
zedzero_thanks05:09
bluefoxicydpkg-source: failure: create file anjuta_2.0.1-2.diff.gz: Permission denied05:09
bluefoxicydpkg-buildpackage failed!05:09
bluefoxicycrimsun:  fakeroot doesn't work.  :(05:10
zedzero_also ive got another problem05:10
nate_zedzero_, no i will not make out with you05:10
zedzero_how can i force apt-get to get files only from internet, not cd?05:10
crimsunbluefoxicy: did you apt-get as root?05:10
nate_zedzero_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list05:10
bluefoxicycrimsun:  i'm changing permissions now thanks.05:10
nate_zedzero_, and put a # before the first line05:10
lewix_jason, do you code ?05:10
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nate_zedzero_, then do an apt-get update05:10
pvd2006I am having a problem running limewire on Ubuntu. I pasted the errors to pastebin at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/60105105:10
TheWrenchBlippe, ok. I am still not quite clear. I want a big partition which is accessable from both linux and windows, on which to store my media files.  I will make it fat32 since I am new to linux, so I will probably create it when I install windows.  this means thatit will have a lettername, like a: right?05:10
Rowerim getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem05:11
_jasonlewix: here and there, not much05:11
Falstiuszedzero_: modify /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD entry.05:11
nate_The_Isle_of_Mark, install windows dirst05:11
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_jasonRower: what error code?05:11
Dr_WillisTheWrench,  it will have a letter under windows, same as normal. You can mount it whever ya want under linux.05:11
lewix_jason, ok05:11
nate_TheWrench, install windows first, imo05:11
zedzero_thanks05:11
nate_TheWrench, off-subject for your question, but good advice05:12
OmegaAlphanate_,  what exactly is that.. a booting cd? this is an external harddrive.. so i dont boot from it05:12
TheWrenchnate_, Falstius: ok. thanks.05:12
OmegaAlphaBlippe, when you were telling me about vnc were you referring to how i can go somewhere else and access my computer or were you getting to somethign else to do with it?05:12
zedzero_i have installed xserver-xorg and configured the resolution. now what should i do? (startx still doesnt work)05:12
BlippeTheWrench, yes, in windows it will have a lettername, in linux, no!05:13
intelikeywell i'm going to break this thing.   i've started removing kernel modules from lib/  if it can't find them it can't load them.05:13
nate_OmegaAlpha, it's a bootable CD that boots you into Helix, a debian-derived liveCD linux distribution, that is specifically for computer forensics, which happens to also be useful for data-recovery05:13
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OmegaAlphavercellone, that is a good link you sent me on vnc.. so i guess i can access my computer somewhere else.. even the same session somewhere else?05:13
BlippeTheWrench, but I would recommend you to create the fat artition in linux instead!05:13
Alex2blippe, thanks a good read, a little greek but looks like the answer..05:13
nate_zedzero_, ls -l /usr/bin/startx05:13
lewix_jason,  how can I delete files in the terminal05:13
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lewixdel* ?05:13
_jasonlewix: rm05:13
OmegaAlphanate_, ah i see. sounds very nice to have... i take it i burn it as an iso and just pop it in?05:13
_jasonubotu: tell lewix about cli05:14
zedzero_nate, no such file or dir...05:14
BlippeAlex2, I haven't used it myself, but a friend told me it was good... I don't know...05:14
Dr_WillisTime to google for a Bash Tutorial or 4 :P05:14
TheWrenchBlippe, why?05:14
thisguyhey, my install cd doesnt work on this laptop, how can i manually install from livecd?05:14
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CryoToxArggh, ye all be useless :P05:14
nate_OmegaAlpha, yes, but like I said before, using the forensics tools is not a trivial task, it may take a lot of fiddling and a lot of doing05:14
CryoToxfound my own05:14
intelikeyDr_Willis bash-doc ?05:14
lewix_jason, and if it's a folder ?05:14
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thisguyanyone?05:14
BlippeTheWrench, if you are new to linux it will be easier to find for you...05:14
lastetn!pastebin05:14
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)05:14
nate_thisguy, doesn't work?05:14
_jasonlewix: if it is empty 'rmdir', otherwise 'rm -r' will delete recursively05:15
nate_thisguy, how does it 'not work'?05:15
BlippeTheWrench, just a thing tha will make your total setup easier...05:15
thisguyerror loading kernel and timesettings, only live cd works (which im using now)05:15
Dr_Willisintelikey,  any of the hundreds of bash tutorials out on the web :P05:15
vercelloneOmegaAlpha, I'm outta here for now...sorry I couldn't be more help, but it looks like you are in good hands...good luck05:15
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OmegaAlphanate_, yes i see they offer training with it and for law enforcements.. wow this is the good stuff eh? and to think i paid some guy in a computer shop 100 dollars to retrieve data on my internal hd when i crashed this laptop05:15
TheWrenchBlippe, it will be easier from both windows and linux, or just from linux?05:15
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XenguyOmegaAlpha: 2 concept categories at right angles; they don't fit on the same level05:15
thisguyother distros have install commands, how do i do this in ubuntu?05:15
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BlippeTheWrench, otherwise you need to learn how to automount and stuff... And easier from both...05:16
intelikeyDr_Willis i was asking if you have looked at  package  bash-doc05:16
OmegaAlphavercellone, thanks alot for you help i appreciate.. yeah i think ill be ok05:16
zedzero_nate, do you have any ideas?05:16
intelikeybash-doc - Documentation and examples for the The GNU Bourne Again SHell05:16
nate_OmegaAlpha, another option is to use helix from windows.  It has many many VERY useful windows tools for data recovery which are easier to use (but not as effective)05:16
XenguyOmegaAlpha: in this case vnc and ssh work together better, not apart :-)05:16
nate_OmegaAlpha, just pop it in and the auto-run will bring up the menu05:16
FalstiusIs it worth it to upgrade to dapper (from Breezy) for my only desktop?  AKA, is it stable enough?05:16
Kanalalcan someone tell me if its possible to bind two commands to a key? or to bind a script to a key05:16
_jasonubotu: tell thisguy about synaptic05:16
Dr_Willisintelikey,  i was refering to the OTHEr person needing to google for some bash fundamental docs. :P05:16
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_jasonubotu: tell thisguy about apt05:17
XenguyFalstius: stick with stable; what justifies a risk currently?05:17
chuckypFalstius, you question would be better fielded in #ubuntu+1  <<< that is dapper discussion05:17
FalstiusKanalal: yes, it is.05:17
Kanalalwhich one?05:17
nate_TheWrench, easier to just use one operating system, but if you want to do both, install windows first (leaving room on the hard drive), then install linux05:17
Kanalalthe two commands or the script?05:17
thisguy....install from live-cd....yes? anyone?05:17
Xenguychuckyp: the question is breezy vs. dapper05:17
lewix_jason,  I have an *.exe file I can't erase it05:17
chuckypKanalal, both05:17
zedzero_i have installed xserver-xorg but startx still doesnt work. is this normal_?05:17
Dr_Willisthisguy,  work in progress for Dapper. I hear.05:17
OmegaAlphanate_, guess ill have to steal another cd-r off my bro haha05:17
FalstiusXenguy: that's what I was wondering, what would be worth it ;)05:17
chuckypXenguy, he's asking if its stable enough05:17
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nate_OmegaAlpha, hehe :D05:17
_jasonlewix: where is it and what does it say when you try05:17
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OmegaAlphanate_, how can i scan and fix the errors.. i cant do it with chkdsk in windows...05:18
chuckypFalstius, what are you trying to gain by going to dapper?05:18
Blippenate_ we were talking about the fat32 partition...05:18
XenguyFalstius: nothing, except bleeding-edge risk :-)  It's but a month (or 2) away05:18
OmegaAlphaXenguy, so i guess that program that integrates the both of them is the way to go.. if i can only find it05:18
nate_OmegaAlpha, fschk in linux05:18
TheWrenchnate_,I plan ondoing windows first05:18
thisguycome on someone, install cd dont load, i need a walkthrough for live-cd install....05:18
Kanalalchuckyp: how do i do the two commands i tried using | ; and : as seperators| but i dont know what else to try?05:18
Xenguychuckyp: rather, is stable current enough I think05:18
chuckypOmegaAlpha, what are you trying to do?05:18
chuckypKanalal, & <<<05:18
XenguyOmegaAlpha: you need specific software?05:19
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Kanalalthanks05:19
nate_TheWrench, good :D05:19
OmegaAlphaXenguy, im totally new to using either. so i wouldn tknow where to begin. i did learn how todo the control -alt f# thing and to log in again but i forgot what that new command like is.. a console right? someone was trying to explain everythign to me.. and the differences05:19
_jasonthisguy: did you burn the disc at a low speed?05:19
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XenguyOmegaAlpha: my gawd, stick with breezy/stable...05:19
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OmegaAlphaheres what i want to do overall...05:19
am3r1caFalstius thanx05:19
thisguyi got the official disk through canonical05:20
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XenguyOmegaAlpha: if there is a specific problem, focus on that05:20
OmegaAlphaXenguy,  this is breezy05:20
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chuckypOmegaAlpha, the best thing to do would be to read the wiki so you get a grasp then check out tldp05:20
XenguyOmegaAlpha: good05:20
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_jasonthisguy: sometimes they get messed up.  Have you tried other cd's?05:20
Falstiuschuckyp: I want to clean up some of the x86_64 issues mostly ... and mysql5.05:20
Falstiusalthough, just got that working from source.05:20
thisguyi have multiple copies...05:20
lewix_jason, no such files (the same for some images)05:20
pvd2006arg, Ubuntu is giving me problems again.  I tried to put limewire.sh on the desktop buts it not opening when I try to run Gedit its just sitting there in the terminal doing nothing.05:20
thisguynoone knows how to set this up from live-cd?05:20
nate_OmegaAlpha, your best bet is to buy a book or two, go through those, then break every linux distro you can find, then settle on one.....but that's just me i guess :D05:20
_jasonlewix: read through the tutorials ubotu gave you and come back if you are still stucj05:20
lewixok05:21
pvd2006sorry05:21
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pvd2006I meant limewire.desktop05:21
pvd2006trying to create a new file with Gedit05:21
OmegaAlphathis just happened recently and unexpected i was on my way to setting up a network in samba to share my ext hd with my bro who has a win box.. and then learned of putty but right now my ext hd is messed up so stopping me from everything05:21
_jasonthisguy: search ubuntuforums.org, I believe there was a thread explaining it.  try wiki.ubuntu.com too05:21
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Xenguynate_: gawd no - why waste all that time -- debian based distros are ahead in the end05:21
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unfoOmegaAlpha: every linux distro has strengths or weaknesses. ask someone, preferably one person u trust, to help you decide.05:21
zedzeronate, can you help me a bit more please?05:21
unfos/or/and05:21
OmegaAlphanate_, haha if i had the time and patience i would. for now ubuntu breezy is good enough for me05:21
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OmegaAlphanate_, ill just wait till 4/20 for dapper05:22
Xenguyunfo: no no Debian/Ubu is superior :P05:22
OmegaAlphalol im not trying to pick otu a distro05:22
unfoXenguy: i agree, im on Debian.05:22
thisguyalright i will do that05:22
Xenguyunfo: hah05:22
nate_Xenguy, because not everyone uses debian-based-distros, it's valuable to learn other ones as well, then you see what the features of each are05:22
nickrudheh. dropped back in just in time. nate's advice is the best I've seen in a while05:22
TheWrenchWell, thanks everybody for all of the help.  I'll see what happpens05:22
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nate_Xenguy, and superior in what aspect?05:22
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OmegaAlphaim just trying to fix my ext hd so i can share it with my network using samba.. and then after that set up my linux so i can access my computer from anywhere i want05:22
Xenguynate_: no, a waste of time, unless you have too much time ;-)05:22
Xenguynate_: all respects :-)05:23
nickrudof course, look where we've all ended up :)05:23
BlippeTheWrench, good luck and have fun!05:23
nate_Xenguy, your head-in-the-sand my-distro-is-better-than-yours attitude is ignotance at its worst05:23
pvd2006its not letting me,  "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/LimeWire.desktop"05:23
zedzeroi installed xserver-xorg, but startx still doesnt work. what should i do?05:23
nate_ignorance*05:23
Xenguynate_:  nyah nyah05:23
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vaslowhere do you get started with all this stuff?05:24
Xenguynate_: ubuntu *is* better than a lot of others :-)05:24
unfopvd2006: learn Vim or Emacs :)05:24
nate_Xenguy, while I do agree that Debian based distros are GREAT desktops and often great servers, other distros have their places05:24
nate_Xenguy, just not on my boxes :)05:24
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Xenguynate_: yes, the end of the line ;-)05:24
pvd2006I can learn those, but still.. the program should work, a lot of programs on Ubuntu have been unresponsive for me05:25
Xenguynate_: hehe05:25
unfovaslo: you mean with linux?05:25
V4Vendettadamn05:25
V4Vendettakde is slower then gnome05:25
V4Vendettaway slower05:25
nate_Xenguy, we quieted down the channel pretty well :D05:25
lastetnhi i need help, i instaled dapper, before i installed it i could should bettewn Ubunut or Windows now i cant05:25
Dr_WillisV4Vendetta,  never noticed.05:25
unfoV4Vendetta: but the extra features make the startup time worthwhile.05:25
lastetncan any of u help me05:25
V4VendettaDr_Willis, never ?05:25
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BlippeV4Vendetta, you running gnome stuff in kde?05:25
Xenguynate_: heheh (where's that pin?)05:25
V4Vendettaunfo, i mean during use, not startup persay05:25
Dr_WillisV4Vendetta,  nope. cant say that ive ever noticed differance at all.05:26
V4VendettaBlippe, not running kde anymore, but no it was a fresh install05:26
zedzerocan someone please help me?05:26
V4Vendettaxfce is the fastest, but i don't like it05:26
Blippeic05:26
Xenguy!anyone05:26
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>05:26
unfoV4Vendetta: really? even if it were so, it'd be worth it.05:26
Dr_Willisdepends on what tools you are using as well. :P05:26
V4Vendettaunfo, maybe05:26
nate_zedzero, still the same problem?05:26
Falstiuszedzero: does it give you an error yet?05:26
vasloyes i mean generally with linux, any good books out there? tools? where do you get started?05:26
zedzeronate_, yes...05:26
BlippeV4Vendetta, what about pekvw or even better, no x?05:26
Blippe:D05:26
XenguyV4Vendetta: awww, I like xfce - it's fast, and what not to like?05:26
nate_zedzero, srry, ummm05:26
V4Vendettaall i ever run is xchat xmms, azureus, gaim firefox and gmail-notify and the occasional abiword.05:26
lastetnhi i need help, i instaled dapper, before i installed it i could should bettewn Ubunut or Windows now i cant05:26
V4Vendettaoh and gizmo.05:26
Dr_Willisvaslo,  http://google.com/linux05:26
unfovaslo: first you find a friend who's willing to help you, or a book05:26
bluefoxicygrep: /usr/lib/libwnck-1.la: No such file or directory05:26
zedzeronate_, xserver-xorg is installed, but startx still doesnt work05:26
bluefoxicycrimsun: it missed a build dep.05:27
unfovaslo: then you save all your documents to a burned cd05:27
Rower_jason: fixed the error.. thanx anyway05:27
nate_zedzero, apt-get install xorg-common05:27
Dr_Willisvaslo,  the ubuntu homepage has links to good sites as well05:27
unfovaslo: then you reformat your entire hard drive - this is important.05:27
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Xenguyvaslo: debian-administration.org05:27
unfovaslo: then you start to learn.05:27
zedzeronate_, its already installed and latest version05:27
unfoXenguy: why?05:27
pvd2006Having problems wioth programs in ubuntu being unresponsive and having to force them to quit. Can anyone relate to this?05:27
Falstiuslastetn: you have to modify /boot/grub/grub.conf05:28
nate_zedzero, argh...05:28
unfopvd2006: I can, I use Windows sometimes :)05:28
Xenguyunfo: 4205:28
Falstiusyou can search google for "grub windows boot" and probably find something quickly.05:28
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Falstiuszedzero: is startx found?05:28
zedzerofalstius, nope05:28
lastetnFalstius how can u help me please05:28
unfoXenguy: 42???05:28
nate_Falstius, naw, heh05:28
vasloi have reformatted the drive and put the fedora core on my computer, just because i found a decent book with it05:28
unfovaslo: fine.05:28
pvd2006Ive had less problems with windows xp so far as far as unresponsiveness goes:-\05:29
vaslocant get ubuntu to work on it :(05:29
unfovaslo: but then the best help is from IRC channel #fedora.05:29
Blippelastetn you need to "restore" grub...05:29
Xenguyunfo: HHG2TG reference05:29
Falstiuslastetn: there are many webpages that describe how to do that.05:29
nate_zedzero, apt-get install xdm05:29
unfoXenguy: i know, why did you throw in the ultimate answer? what was the question?05:29
cafuegoxenguy: oi05:29
lastetnFalstius ok05:29
pvd2006I have the latest kernel modules and apps installed05:29
lastetnBlippe how do i do that?05:29
Falstiuszedzero: apt-get install gnome :)05:29
Xenguycafuego: heh, gabba gabba hey05:30
Xenguyunfo: it's hard to say sometimes :-)05:30
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FalstiusThen just configure gdm to run fluxbox instead of gnome .. and do you really need something that light?  Are you running a PIII?05:30
nate_anyone know any docs for the preseed files in the installer?05:30
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Badm4nhello05:30
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nate_Falstius, I'm running gnome on a p3 right now with no problems05:31
lastetnBlippe how do i do that?05:31
Badm4nUbuntu Security Notice USN-262-1 <-- is this true ?05:31
MrRiowhen i type 'fi' or 'st' together in gedit, it replaces it with one character05:31
unfoXenguy: ok... :)05:31
MrRiothis is in the dapper release with Freemono Medium 1105:31
unfoMrRio: are you using an un-American keyboard map?05:31
unfo:)05:31
Blippehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%2905:31
Xenguyunfo: sorry for any unintentional obsfucation at the moment :-)05:31
nate_unfo, lol, un-american05:31
cafuegoBadm4n: yes05:31
zedzero~)05:31
nate_UN-PATRIOTIC!!!05:31
nate_lol05:32
MrRiounfo, British, standard latin character-set05:32
unfoMrRio: oh. then I don't know, sorry.05:32
Badm4ncafuego : is that can be fix only by : apt-get update /upgrade ?05:32
cafuegonate_: Are you implying non-US contries don't have partiots?05:32
zedzeronate_, xdm worked but there were only some silly lines (resolution problem?) and it quited on its own without any error message. now what does that mean?05:32
cafuegoBadm4n: Well, you could trash the installer logs, that'd do the trick too .05:32
nate_cafuego, i just thought saying un-american keyboard map was funny lol05:32
nate_cafuego, they're part of the axis of evil!05:32
nate_cafuego, lol05:33
dooglusBadm4n: the only solution is to change your password05:33
Badm4ncafuego : where i can find installer log ? i'm on server mode ... console only05:33
cafuegoBadm4n: /var/log/installer/*05:33
Badm4nallrite05:33
dooglusBadm4n: the update won't help, because someone may already have read the file in the past.05:33
nate_zedzero, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server05:33
Badm4ni c05:33
Falstiuszedzero: I think you need "xinit"05:33
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nate_Falstius, I think he's getting the 'lines' because the resolution or refresh rate is off05:34
cafuegodooglus: Still, removing the temptation is not a bad thing.05:34
lewix_jason, I'm watching a video with mplayer. i would like ot put fullscreen. DO you have an any idea ? thanks again05:34
doogluscafuego: what temptation?05:34
cafuegodooglus: existing installer logs05:34
Falstiusnate_, having startx will make it a lot easier to debug problems starting xwindows.  xinit includes startx.05:34
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nate_lewix, press f05:34
Badm4n/var/log/installer/ <-- valid to remove ? rm -rf ? will not make my system crash ?05:34
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doogluscafuego: does it make any sense at all to you that the update doesn't force a password change?05:35
lewixit is small though05:35
nate_Falstius, I had him install xdm, which i believe gives you startx05:35
cafuegodooglus: _if_ noone's read them _and_ they're still there, fixing the problem would be a good thing regardless.05:35
zedzeronate_, it says xorg-server is not installed05:35
_jasonlewix: press 'f'05:35
lewixnate_,  it just gives the impression to be bigger but it isnt05:35
heatxsinkanyone in here run a saa7134 with tvtime on ubuntu?05:35
doogluscafuego: there's no way of knowing whether anyone has read them05:35
nate_lewix, hmmm, i dunno then05:35
nate_zedzero, ha!05:35
_jasonlewix: in preferences, choose 'xv' as your video output05:35
CryoToxOkay, just got a prog unzipped it, But low and behold I forget a command i need. It's something like 'make install' is that correct05:35
cafuegodooglus: Yes, forcing a password change is something MS would do. It's not up to Canonical to decide whether I want to or not, at best they could advise that it would be a good idea.05:36
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lewix_jason, how do I do that ?05:36
am3r1caHELP ! i have a link on my desktop that i cant remove, when i try to delete it says : not on same file system ???05:36
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nate_zedzero, ummm, i dunno05:36
_jasonlewix: are you using the gui?05:36
zedzeronate_, but also there is no package with that name...05:36
cafuegodooglus: That depends on who has access to the system05:36
nate_zedzero, what?05:36
Badm4ndooglus : after i remove the log and change my password ... should i do apt-get update/upgrade ?05:36
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lewix_jason, nope05:36
zedzeronate_, i tried to sudo apt-get install xorg-server, and it said no such package exists05:36
lastetnhey can anybody helpme with the grub05:36
Falstiuszedzero: do "sudo apt-get install xinit"05:36
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lewix_jason,  I just type mplayer in the terminal05:37
dooglusBadm4n: if you change your password then there's no need to reboot or upgrade, no.05:37
unfozedzero: xserver-xorg05:37
dabaRam3r1ca: what does it look like? take a screenshot, paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, the pastebin.05:37
_jasonlewix: edit ~/.mplayer/config and add the line 'vo = xv'05:37
zedzerofalstius, xinit is already installed05:37
zedzerounfo, that is installed too :)05:37
CryoToxOkay, just got a prog unzipped it, But low and behold I forget a command i need. It's something like 'make install' is that correct05:37
dabaRam3r1ca: and paste the output of ls -l ~/Desktop, from a "Applications>Utils>Terminal"05:37
Badm4ni c05:37
unfozedzero: oh. you could try installing x-window-system too, thats the full system.05:37
Paper183can i delete the whole /var/log/installer safely ??05:38
CryoToxI'm in the folder I've just forgot the command05:38
Falstiuszedzero: and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fix your video driver and refresh rate.05:38
zedzerounfo, what do you mean by full system?05:38
cafuegoPaper183: yes05:38
lewix_jason, Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"05:38
lewixlewix@Lewix:/media/win/Documents and Settings/Lewis/My Documents/M05:38
rexkwondoHere I sit with my new Averatec 3700 and a Dapper (5) disk... someone stop me!05:38
unfozedzero: xclock, xterm, etc.05:38
Paper183cafuego: thanks05:38
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_jasonlewix: sudo nano ~/.mplayer/config, by 'edit' I just meant choose your favorite editor :)05:38
rexkwondothank, man05:38
Badm4nwhat is the channel of ubuntu art ?05:38
zedzeroxwindow system is not available via apt-get (yes i have universe servers selected)05:39
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unfozedzero: maybe x-window-system-core05:39
iGotNoTimewhat engine has the most "widgets" available? I am getting nothing but errors with gdesklet :(05:39
_jasonlewix: you don't need the sudo in that command by the way05:39
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Falstiusunfo: so thats the full wrapper .. good to know :)05:39
Falstius(x-window-system-core)05:39
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MadpilotiGotNoTime, there are lots of interesting Gnome-native applets - what're you trying to do?05:40
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CryoToxAny help?05:40
fiveironok, anyone running xgl?05:40
V4Vendettahow do i clear downloaded but not installed stuff ?05:40
lewix_jason, ok. hmm now im stuck..dunno how to save05:40
V4Vendettadelete i mean.05:40
iGotNoTimeMadpilot get a webpage on my desktop background05:40
unfoFalstius: yep. iirc its x-window-system tho.05:40
unfoFalstius: on debian atleast05:40
dabaRBadm4n: /j #ubuntu-artwork05:40
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dabaRBadm4n: /j #ubuntu-art05:40
Falstiusunfo, no x-window-system-core (according to apt-cache)05:40
dabaRpah!05:40
MadpilotiGotNoTime, hmm, no idea - sorry05:40
unfoFalstius: oh05:40
_jasonlewix: see the bottom? it's a cheat sheet.  ^X means ctrl-x05:40
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am3r1cadabaR i sent it to the paste bin05:41
nickrudV4Vendetta, sudo apt-get autoclean, removes any downloaded but not used packages05:41
_jasonlewix: save is writeout by the way, but you can jsut exit and it will prompt you to save05:41
unfoV4Vendetta: low on space?05:41
iGotNoTimeMadpilot, do you by chance have a link to some interesting reading on some of these gnome native applets?05:41
V4Vendettaunfo, no05:41
unfoV4Vendetta: so why?05:41
V4Vendettaunfo, because i like a clean system05:41
zedzeroyay, it dpkg-reconfigure seems to work :) its reconfigured and startx is found. now getting some other packages it wanted. thank you all :)05:41
iGotNoTimeMadpilot, I really don't want to add more than I need lol05:41
lewix_jason, no such file or directory05:42
eric_i'm hoping to run apache web server behind a wireless router. port forwarding doesn't seem to work with my current linksys router. any suggestions?05:42
Falstiuszedzero: you should install x-terminal-emulator too ... it looks like x-window-system-core doesn't include that.05:42
unfoV4Vendetta: can sometimes be a waste of time.05:42
balu1well shit05:42
balu1some how it works05:42
balu1amazing05:42
V4Vendettaunfo, it took one second, and i saved 2 gigs05:42
balu1how does mupen work on my comp05:42
unfoV4Vendetta: oh. :)05:42
balu1when i have no 3d accel?05:42
dabaRam3r1ca: which one? it is not on the ubuntu pastebin.05:42
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zedzeronow how can i get graphical login screen on startup?05:42
am3r1cadabaR it just finished sending now05:42
am3r1casorry05:42
unfoV4Vendetta: but you just blew away a cache of useful stuff incase of uninstall then reinstall a package.05:42
V4Vendettaunfo, eh, i don't install stuff often. i have a core set of stuff i always use05:43
nickrudV4Vendetta, you can configure apt to do that automatically, man apt.conf05:43
MadpilotiGotNoTime, just right-click on either the top & bottom bar of your desktop, and select Add To Panel - that'll bring up (most of) the stuff you can add. Some apps add new applets.05:43
unfoV4Vendetta: ok05:43
V4Vendettanickrud, cheers mate :-D05:43
dabaRam3r1ca: :D05:43
iGotNoTimeMadpilot, thanks for the tip :)05:43
dabaRam3r1ca: so which one does not want to go? the dos one?05:43
_jasonlewix: mkdir ~/.mplayer05:43
am3r1cayeah05:44
dabaRam3r1ca: paste output of "sudo mount" to pastebin.05:44
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nate_zedzero, i think that's what xdm is, a graphical login that is x-only05:44
am3r1caok05:44
V4Vendettanickrud, is  Clean-Installed05:44
V4Vendetta what i want?05:44
nate_zedzero, srry for leavin btw, nature called05:44
_jasonlewix: after that, just do 'gedit ~/.mplayer/config', it will be easier than nano05:44
Badm4nany one can tell me about the screensaver timeout command on console ? so it will display on my putty05:44
nickrudV4Vendetta, heck, I don't know, I haven't actually looked at the options lately (I keep old debs)05:45
V4Vendettanickrud, ok05:45
Grarkman o man.....if apps are suddenly not loading, is it worthwhile to reload them or to find out why they're not loading?05:45
am3r1cadabaR done05:45
V4Vendettanickrud, where is the apt config, /ect/apt ?05:45
V4Vendettaetc*05:45
zedzeronate_, its ok. you helped a lot already :)05:45
dabaRam3r1ca: "sudo umount /dev/sda6" enter your password. It was a drive mounted at that spot.05:46
nickrudV4Vendetta, yeah, Clean-Installed, it's /etc/apt/apt.conf05:46
V4Vendettanickrud, mine is blank ..05:46
zedzerois there a way to search package descriptions at apt-get?05:46
nate_zedzero, but really though, i think you would be better off reinstalling normally, then installing xdm and fluxbox, then reconfiguring x to use those instead of gdm and gnome05:46
MrRiozedzero: you can in synaptic05:47
am3r1caWORKED !!05:47
nickrudV4Vendetta, it's a new file you create, yes.05:47
am3r1cathanks05:47
bimberizedzero: use synaptic, or 'apt-cache search <string>' on the command line05:47
V4Vendettanickrud, do i just paste Clean-Installed in it?05:47
lewix_jason, vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)05:47
lewixIt seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.05:47
lewixRun 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!05:47
lewixSee 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x1105:47
lewixError opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.05:47
am3r1cabut sda6 is the swap partition05:47
am3r1cashould it be mounted ???05:47
lewixarf sorry again.05:47
dabaRam3r1ca: :-/? it worked? cause I told you what to do to make it go away...05:47
nate_zedzero, but you could apt-get install aptitude05:47
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nate_zedzero, it's like synaptic, but for the command line05:47
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_jasonlewix: what kind of video card do you have and have you installed the drivers for it?05:48
GrarkCan someone help me reinstall gcc 3 instead of 4...I think that's what's choking vmware05:48
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_jasonGrark: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.405:48
lewix_jason,  I don't know..I've just installed ubuntu05:48
naliothlewix: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin (wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules)05:48
am3r1cadabaR i was fiddling around with fstab, could you take a look at it to see ir everything is ok ??05:48
V4VendettaGrark, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:48
XenguyGrark: apt-get install gcc-3.4  ?05:48
Falstiuszedzero: apt-cache search string string to find interesting packages and apt-cache show package to get the info about it.05:48
lewixnalioth, ok sorry05:48
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nickrudV4Vendetta, I would think it's Apt::Clean-Install05:49
_jasonlewix: you have an nvidia or ati?05:49
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V4Vendettanickrud, okay thank you05:49
lewixATI, _jason05:49
Grarkfigures it would be that simple.05:49
_jasonubotu: tell lewix about ati05:49
ale_i installed linux on a new computer (pentium 4). Ubuntu installed itself very nicely, and i have basic sound, but no sound coming from wavs, mpegs or flash files. Even xmms crashes. Suggestions?05:49
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Grarkcrap.05:50
Grarkthat didn't work05:50
nate_ale_, it may be that your sound-playing program is not playing sound to esd, the default sound daemon05:50
ale_but no sound playing program works05:50
V4Vendettaale_, are you using ALSA ?05:50
Madpilotale_, do you have the extra codecs installed for wavs & such?05:50
ale_yes im using alsa05:50
dabaRam3r1ca: you would have to show me the file, on pastebin, and write an explanation of what you would like it to do.05:50
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nickrudGrark, try export CC="gcc-3.4"05:50
V4Vendettaale_, do you have XMMS set to use alsa ?05:51
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alimhNeed some help... when i try to "sudo cat 1 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to change my brightness on laptop, it says permission denied. Any ideas?05:51
nate_doesn't ubuntu use esd by default?05:51
nate_or did they move away from that?05:51
V4Vendettanate_, i don't think it does05:51
ale_let me check that last thing05:51
V4Vendettai think it picks based on the card05:51
nate_they did in hoary05:51
V4VendettaOSS ALSA or ESD05:51
bob123hi there, i cant see my ubuntu machine on the DHCP table of my router but i can see my windows machine, can anyone help me ?05:51
nickrudalsa oss esd i think05:51
Grarknickrud, what does that do?05:51
nate_i would bet why it crashes and won't play those files is the wrong one is selected05:52
Varangerhello... I am having problem logging with gdm, letter keys are not recognized05:52
nate_Varanger, what did you do just before this happened?05:52
Varangernate_: Reboot05:52
nickrudGrark, I my creaky memory serves, when a config script or make calls for a c compiler, it looks at CC first05:52
nate_Varanger, what did you do just before reboot?05:52
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Varangernate_: Maybe, I upgraded the system, but I don't remember what, just the default options from Synaptic05:53
lastetnhi plese help me with the grub05:53
am3r1cadabaR ok i pasted it05:53
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lastetnive  been trying a lot of things05:53
Falstiusalimh: sudo "cat 1 > /proc/blah/blah"05:53
nate_Varanger, well, I may not be able to help you much, but I would be looking to that as the likely cause05:53
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Varangernate_: I rebooted again and entered to the console, and the keyboard was working well, then I started X with startx and the keyboard was working well under GNOME05:54
FalstiusVaranger: is it a laptop with numlock?  turn it off ... (thats all I can think of)05:54
nickrudGrark, what that's doing is setting an environment variable, you can see yours with env | sort05:54
ale_V4Vendetta, now i set xmms to use alsa, and it doesnt crash anymore.. but still no sound05:54
Falstiusale_: did you run the mixer?  the volume might be 0.05:55
V4Vendettaale_, okay, do this for me, type alsa mixer in a terminal and see if anything is set to off, on the top left corner use the arrow keys to move, and up to turn volume up05:55
dabaRam3r1ca: cfdisk formats the hard disk.05:55
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nate_Varanger, so the problem is no more?05:55
VarangerFaltstius: Is a USB keyboard, and I already tried on/off the NumLock05:56
ale_the mixer was the first thing i checked, both in X and in the terminal05:56
ale_Falstius, V4Vendetta  the mixer was the first thing i checked, both in X and in the terminal05:56
am3r1cadabaR it also creates partitions05:56
V4Vendettaale_, nothing is set to off?05:56
alimhFalstius: that gives me "command not found"05:56
nate_Varanger, oh, USB keyboard, now we enter into even more possible issues...05:56
dabaRam3r1ca: ya, which is what I said.05:56
am3r1caok05:56
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ale_nothing is off. And i DO have the basic ubuntu sounds. Just no sound for wav, mp3, flash...05:56
Grarknickrud, anywhere I can see a "log" for opening apps?05:56
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_jasonale_: you probably have esd, does xmms crash when you try to use esd?05:57
SlicerDicer-does anybody know what I would need to install to get /usr/include/GL/gl.h05:57
_jasonSlicerDicer-: libgl1-mesa-dev05:57
V4Vendettaale_, in the sound applet in gnome, where it says device, what device do you have enabled05:57
V4Vendettaale_, file>change device05:57
dabaRam3r1ca: it looks like the dos drive was mounted in vfat format. What ws not working exactly?05:57
am3r1cadabaR the swap and fat32 were switched, sda6 and 7, in fstab with the info in cfdisk05:57
nickrudGrark, you can see a history of your terminal, type history ; I don't think that's what you're looking for, though05:57
SlicerDicer-_jason: that wants to remove nvidia-glx though05:58
dabaRam3r1ca: post output of "sudo fdisk -l"05:58
Grarkno, i'm looking to see why my apps are "disappearing"05:58
Grarkor crashing.05:58
ale_V4Vendetta, sound applet? what and where is that?05:58
_jasonSlicerDicer-: strange, I have both installed05:58
ale__jason, yes05:59
V4Vendettaale_, it looks like a speaker05:59
nickrudGrark, does pressing alt-tab show you the apps? (maybe a stupid question, but let's get it out of the way)05:59
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ale_wait05:59
moshehello05:59
am3r1cadabaR ok i pasted it05:59
moshedoes skype on Linux work with webcams?05:59
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Grarknickrud, no it doesn't06:00
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unfomoshe: i use it. no, it doesn't. use gnomemeeting instead.06:00
ale_i tried putting ESD instead of ALSA in XMMS and now the sound works06:00
ale_like _jason said06:00
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nickrudGrark, ok. which apps? You have a very vague problem06:00
Carbon14Anyone free?06:00
moshegnomemeeting crashes on me with no terminal output to diagnose the cause06:00
levander'uname -a' isn't reporting the patch level of the kernel i'm running.  Anybody know a command to get a more specific kernel version?06:00
unfomoshe: oh :(06:00
SlicerDicer-_jason: wait no I have that installed it gives glx.h not gl.h06:00
ale_that's amazing06:00
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dabaRam3r1ca: looks fine here. Does it work for you?06:01
Grarknickrud, two apps specifically that I installed..06:01
Grarkazareus and vmware06:01
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_jasonSlicerDicer-: libgl1-mesa-dev 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1 gives me usr/include/GL/gl.h06:01
darkmatterhey06:01
darkmatteranyone here?06:01
nekostarIO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq    =  0 (off) using_dma    =  1 (on) keepsettings =  0 (off) readonly     =  0 (off) readahead    = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument  <<--- how do i turn all that on?06:01
nickrudGrark, vmware, I havent' a clue. Do you have java installed?06:01
dabaRno06:01
zedzerostartx doesnt work... it says it cant start without .xsession file and window manager06:01
Carbon14darkmatter: look to the right06:01
moshegetting my labtec webcam running has been a fiasco and a half06:02
darkmatteryes.... I know..... but ive had bad experieces with irc06:02
Carbon14:P06:02
darkmatterlol06:02
Carbon14fun fun06:02
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Grarkyes I do.06:02
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Carbon14yah I don't think anyones free at the moment06:02
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darkmatterhey, Im completely new to linux, just tried the ubuntu 5.1 live06:02
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am3r1cadabaR yeah but when i load ubunto in all the loading steps, when is Check Mounting Local File System---- it says Failed06:03
darkmatterand I was impressed, so i want to install it06:03
zedzerodarkmatter, i saw your post at ubuntuforums :)06:03
nickrudGrark, does java -version say something about 1.4.2 or 1.5?06:03
darkmatterhuh?06:03
darkmattermust be another darkmatter06:03
ReWT_i used the update repository website to updatre all my repositories and after copy andpasting the file, I'm getting some errors on the last 2 on the list?06:03
dabaRam3r1ca: weird, sec.06:03
am3r1cabut it mounts all the partions alright06:03
zedzerodarkmatter4004 or smthg like that06:03
Carbon14darkmatter: Ubuntu's a good choice. My worst enemy right now is memory loss06:03
darkmatteryeah, not me06:03
Carbon14can't remember commands06:03
Grarknickrud, well I reinsatalled v1.4.2 to get azareus working...06:03
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alimhAnyone know why when i try to "sudo cat 1 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to change my brightness on laptop, it says permission denied. Any ideas?06:03
Grarkbut everything WAS working.06:03
darkmatterok, so basically, can i just buy a second hard drive, and have 1 windows hard drive, 1 linux?06:04
Grarkthen it just stopped loading properly.06:04
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darkmatterand just choose which one to boot from every time I boot06:04
Carbon14alimh: Did you try it in root?06:04
ReWT_can anyone hel?06:04
ReWT_*help06:04
alimhbut i don't know the root password...06:04
Grarknickrud, NOW when I go to install vmware again, it's giving me "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running06:04
Grarkkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 06:04
GrarkThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.06:04
Grark"06:04
_jason!helpme06:04
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:04
cilynxalimh: what do you get if you "sudo cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" ?06:04
chuckypalimh, if youa re using sudo it should work.  Maybe make sure that /proc is getting mounted.  and that /proc/..../brightness is there06:04
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ReWT_i used the update repository website to updatre all my repositories and after copy andpasting the file, I'm getting some errors on the last 2 on the list?06:04
darkmatterah, hello?06:05
ReWT_jason....i said that earlier06:05
ReWT_scroll up.06:05
chuckypalimh, try sudo su06:05
ale_what are the common packages i should install so that gxine will be able to play the sound in movies?06:05
alimhyeah, it is there and whhen I cat /proc/..../brightness is shows the levels and current06:05
chuckypalimh, err.. sudo -s06:05
ale_what are the common packages i should install so that gxine will be able to play the sound in movies? (mpeg, etc)06:05
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nickrudGrark, Like I said, I've no clue about vmware, except you gotta recompile your kernel or modules or some such. Never used it :)06:05
chuckypalimh, yeah sudo -s then try it.06:05
_jasonReWT_: put the errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ as well as your /etc/apt/sources.list06:05
SlicerDicer-_jason: I guess its different in dapper06:05
Carbon14chuckyp: He doesn't have the root pass..06:05
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_jasonSlicerDicer-: ah, must be06:05
chuckypalimh, just use your users password at the prompt when you sudo -s06:05
cilynxale_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:05
_jasonSlicerDicer-: ask the folk in #ubuntu+106:05
chuckypCarbon14, he doesn't need it.06:05
Grarknickrud, strange because I had it working....06:05
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Carbon14okay06:05
nekostarcrap06:05
Grarkok so about azareus.06:05
alimhIt works! the sudo su worked. thanks a lot guys!06:05
darkmatteris anyone who knows a bit free to answer a poor noobs ridiculusly easy questions?06:06
Grarkwhere was that HOWTO install?06:06
nekostaranyone know how to fix permissions for cdroms // dvdroms ?06:06
nekostarhm06:06
nekostarthe hdparm stuff06:06
chuckypalimh, you should actually use sudo -s just for the future06:06
nekostarmine is all borked06:06
Grark!tell Grark Azareus06:06
lastetni need help with the grub please help me06:06
Grarkhehehe06:06
ale_cilynx, thanks06:06
nickrudGrark, and if java is kicking back 1.4, maybe you need 1.5. I don't use java much, and azureus not at all.06:06
chuckypalimh, either way works06:06
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Carbon14chuckyp: Do you know the make file command?06:06
A10nhey guys i have a question about removing libfreetype6-dev06:06
cilynxdarkmatter: what you got?06:06
Carbon14I've forgotten06:06
cilynxale: np06:06
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Grarkwhere's that wiki?06:06
chuckypCarbon14, make?06:06
Grark:(06:06
A10nif i do a apt-get remove libfreetype6-dev it wants to remove the following packages, shold i say yes?06:06
A10nftgl-dev libcairo2-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgtk2.0-dev libpango1.0-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libxft-dev06:07
nickrudGrark, your vague question came down to things I don't know :)06:07
darkmattercilynx, how do i do private chat?06:07
alimhchuckyp: is there any way i can use a script to control that06:07
MadpilotGrark, you mean wiki.ubuntu.com?06:07
A10nhow do i just remove libfreetype6-dev and nothing else06:07
Carbon14chuckyp: it says it isn't a command06:07
chuckypCarbon14, what are you trying to do?06:07
dabaRam3r1ca: show output of dmesg |tail06:07
_jasonA10n: the things it wants to remove probably depend on libfreetype6-dev06:07
XenguyA10n: looks alright, but no guarantees of course :-)06:07
A10nlol06:07
Falstiusalimh: you can also do sudo "cat 1 > /procl/blah/lbah".  the problem with sudo cat1 > is that the "cat" is executed as superuser but not the redirection.  So you have to put quotes around the whole thing.06:07
cilynxdarkmatter: /msg <nick> <message>06:07
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chuckypalimh, you would have to give the script root access I believe would be a security issue.  But i'm sure it could be done.06:07
A10ni'm sure when i installed libfreetyp6-dev those were already installed bveofre06:08
lastetnplease somebody help with the grub06:08
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ReWT__jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1018906:08
Carbon14chuckyp: I have an achive unzipped and I need to use the make command, i.e 'make clean' 'make install' or something like that. but I forget the command06:08
chuckypalimh, try asking in #linuxhelp there are some knowledgable shell script guys there.06:08
A10nbefore06:08
cilynxlastetn: what are you trying to accomplish?06:08
SlicerDicer-_jason: will do06:08
alimhchuckyp: see, i want to have my script run when i press a certain key combination06:08
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chuckypCarbon14, well first you would ./configure usually then make then sudo make install06:08
XenguyCarbon14: learn checkinstall too :-)06:08
Carbon14okay06:08
chuckyp!tell Carbon14 about compile06:08
me2win!LAMP06:08
ubotuhmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:08
alimhchuckyp: oh. is that #linuxhelp in this server?06:08
lastetncilynx see i dont know why i can see the menu in the grub06:08
chuckypalimh, No i hear you its possible yes its on this server06:09
pvd2006I Got limewire and java working right, thanks.  Now I am trying to access my files that are on my windows partition. it shows up as /hdc1 but it wont show or let me access any of the files inside of it.06:09
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am3r1cadabaR ok i pasted it06:09
lastetncilynx so i cant chosse betewn the windows and ubuntu06:09
dabaRam3r1ca: show output of just dmesg06:09
alimhchuckyp: thanks. this is great!06:09
Falstiusalimh: you write the script as if you were root and then run sudo script ...06:09
chuckypalimh, I know you can do it i'm just not sure how.  i'm sure they would know06:09
lastetncilynx i think ubuntu havent detect the other os will installing06:10
Grarkok let's start backwards.06:10
Xenguyhurdy gurdy man...06:10
_jasonReWT_: ``We support only i386 mainly because thats all weve got'' http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf06:10
chuckypalimh, yeah thats the way to do it.06:10
Grarkhow do I uninstall a program06:10
lastetni just installed dapper06:10
chuckypFalstius, but he wants to bind it to a key also06:10
ReWT_so what do i do about these errors?06:10
_jasonReWT_: get rid of the two plf line sin your /etc/apt/sources.list06:10
XenguyGrark: dpkg -r (if it's an installed package)06:10
am3r1cadabaR ok i sent it06:10
cilynxlastetn: you're saying that when you boot, it doesn't give you the menu, it just boots Ubuntu, right?  I'm assuming that it throws a "press ESC to show the menu" really quickly on boot... look in your /boot/grub/menu.lst for hiddenmenu and comment it out06:11
iGotNoTimeIf in Gnome I use desklets, what is it people use in KDE?06:11
darkmatterhey, can someone help answer a noobs questions on WiFi and Dual booting?06:11
Grarkgod I'm lost.06:11
lastetncilynx it is not comment06:11
iGotNoTimeI know it is relative and desklets can be used in KDE but it is a general question06:11
XenguyGrark: well, what do you want to do next?06:11
lastetncilynx and when i press esc nothing happens06:11
ReWT__jason....is there any I can add onto it?06:11
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cilynxlastetn: if it is not comment out, then the menu will be hidden on boot.  if you comment it out, it will give you the menu on boot.06:12
GrarkI want to unstall and reinstall azarus06:12
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Grarkazureus06:12
lastetncilynx so u want me to put the #06:12
cilynxlastetn: the "press ESC for menu" is only up for a short time on boot, you can miss it if not paying attention06:12
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chuckypGrark, sudo apt-get reinstall azureus06:12
_jasonReWT_: I don't know of any repos like plf that support amd64, but I don't use 64bit so I don't know much about it06:12
cilynxlastetn: yup (as per the #)06:12
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GrarkI'm ok06:13
chuckypGrark, wat that won't work06:13
Grarkso far.06:13
nickrudGrark, a shortcut for that might be just removing azureus's config in your home dir.06:13
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GrarkI found the package in synaptic06:13
ReWT_Okay....well anyone here running 64 bit with updated repos?06:13
Grarkand uninstalling06:13
XenguyGrark: I've read the buffer and I can't help, sorry06:13
darkmatteris anyone free to answer some questions?06:13
dabaRam3r1ca: but you can use all the drives, or no?06:13
ReWT_darkmatter, what questions?06:13
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Xenguydarkmatter: that's the whole point :-)06:14
epimeteogood morning, everybody06:14
chuckypGrark, you can just remove it and install it again I know theres a way to reinstall with one command I ust can't think of it now.06:14
ReWT_Morning epimeteo06:14
nickrudgood morning epimeteo06:14
chuckyp!ask06:14
pvd2006604 is a lot of people, must be hard to keep up with everyone, is there more than one support channel for ubuntu?06:14
dabaRgood morning only to those to whom it is morning...:P06:14
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_jasonchuckyp, Grark: apt-get install --reinstall packagename06:14
XenguyGrark: search for 'reinstall' stuff06:14
Xenguyyes06:14
ReWT_Anyone here running 64 bit with updated repos?06:14
chuckypthere it is06:14
lastetncilynx can u help me editing the menu?06:14
darkmatterso, Im a complete noob, tried the ubuntu 5.10 live cd06:14
chuckyp_jason, ty bro06:14
darkmatterand was impressed06:15
ReWT_okay, so what is the problem?06:15
Xenguydarkmatter: that's A-OK06:15
darkmatterthe only thing that got me was i couldnt connect to my wifi06:15
naliothReWT_: don't repeat so often, please06:15
GrarkOk everyone, I've now uninstalled and reinstalled the appz, still getting the same "error" launching them.06:15
cilynxlastetn: what are you looking to do with it?06:15
am3r1cadabaR yeah i use everything and all the partitions mount06:15
ReWT_Do you have an integrated or external?06:15
_jasonGrark: what error and what apps?06:15
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darkmatterI have a belgin G router06:15
darkmatterbelkin*06:15
chuckypdarkfires, what type of net card06:15
lastetncilynx i think something is wrong there06:15
epimeteoi downloaded ubuntu dapper livecd today, did anybody tried the expresso to install it_06:15
ReWT_Uh huh.....and your card?06:15
FalstiusGrark: have you tried launching them from the command line?  That way you can see error messages.06:15
Grark_jason azureus and Vmware mysteriously launch, then disappear06:15
naliothyou folks, it works better if you preface the nick of the person you are talking to to your posts06:15
GigaByte_help me06:15
chuckypdarkmatter, what type of net card do you have?06:15
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Grarkno I haven't Falstius06:16
cilynxlastetn: what is it doing as opposed to what do you want it to be doing?06:16
darkmatterand I tried it on a computer with an internal wifi card and a usb one06:16
naliothepimeteo: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper talk06:16
GrarkI'll try now06:16
_jasonGrark: any output to the terminal?06:16
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chuckypdarkmatter, what type of wifi card do you want to get to work06:16
darkfireschuckyp it has a tlan 10/100 onboard, but i don't see why cemu would try to use my net card06:16
epimeteook nalioth! thanks06:16
lastetncilynx it is not showing the menu06:16
darkfiresoh sorry06:16
darkfireswrong window.06:16
ReWT_lol06:16
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am3r1cadabaR i am going to restart to see what it says exactly.. thanx alot for the help :D06:17
ReWT_darkmatter, what type of card are you trying to use? Is it supported?06:17
cilynxlastetn: once you comment out the hiddenmenu line and reboot, it still doesn't show the menu?06:17
Falstiuslastetn: there might be a message when it is booting that says "press any key in the next 3 2 1 seconds to see the GRUB menu"06:17
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chuckypdarkfires, lol06:17
chuckypdarkmatter, what type of wifi card do you have?06:17
silvaranFalstius: I think it's ESC06:17
nate_so anyone know of any good docs on the ubuntu-installer and preseeding and whatnot?06:17
darkmatterI have a belkin g router06:18
darkmatterand I tried the live cd on 2 computers06:18
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ReWT_I know....what wireless card?06:18
chuckypdarkmatter, I know what router you have06:18
lastetnFalstius & cilynx let me try agin06:18
darkmatter1 with a usb wifi card06:18
darkmatterand 1 with an internal one06:18
ReWT_You need a router and a card for wireless to work mate.06:18
Falstiussilvaran: maybe ... I reboot my machine once every few months.06:18
GigaByte_i'm will find  for manual that it's was develop the linux dritribution on ubuntu06:18
silvaranFalstius: That's a good sign ;)06:18
ReWT_What brand is the card?06:18
chuckypdarkmatter, jesus what KIND OF USB CARD MODEL MAKE ETC....06:18
GigaByte_help06:18
GigaByte_i'm will find  for manual that it's was develop the linux dritribution on ubuntu06:18
darkmatterI said.... Belkin06:18
nalioth!wireless06:18
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers06:18
ReWT_Thats the router...06:18
darkmatterthe router and the card are belkin06:18
ReWT_Okay.06:18
MadpilotGigaByte_, what are you looking for?06:18
darkmatter802.11 g 54mbps06:18
ReWT_-.-06:19
ReWT_is the card in?06:19
darkmatteryes06:19
darkmatterwell, its usb06:19
darkmatterso sorta06:19
ReWT_type ifconfig06:19
darkmatternot in the case06:19
ReWT_see the card anywhere?06:19
GigaByte_Madpilot,note ubuntu06:19
darkmatterbut, functioning06:19
darkmatterin the terminal?06:19
chuckypdarkmatter, the router doens't matter jus thte card ifyou follow the link above about wireless it will tell you how to install it.06:19
ReWT_yes06:19
darkmatterifconfig06:19
ReWT_yes06:19
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darkmatterok, ill try that06:20
chuckypdarkmatter, please stop using enter as punctuation.  READ ^^^^^06:20
GigaByte_Madpilot, devolop of  distribution on ubuntu06:20
GigaByte_Madpilot, develop of  distribution on ubuntu06:20
Xenguy!terminal06:20
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chuckypReWT_, he needs ndiswrapper drivers06:20
GigaByte_Madpilot, note maual06:20
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darkmatterthen what?  In the networks menu there was no option for WifI or to add one06:20
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GigaByte_Madpilot, how to access06:20
chuckypdarkmatter, you need drivers if you would read the link above06:20
chuckyp!tell darkmatter about wifi06:20
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chuckyp!tell darkmatter about wireless06:21
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chuckypdarkmatter, there read the link ubotu sent you.06:21
ReWT_That's where I was getting to with this :-P06:21
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MadpilotGigaByte_, I do not know which manuals you want. The regular Ubuntu manuals are at http://help.ubuntu.com/06:21
darkmatterive been there'06:21
TSCHAKis there a way to make my laptop suspend when I close the lid?06:21
TSCHAKwithout hacking the acpid scripts?06:21
alimh would it be bad to do "chmod a+w /proc/.../brightness" so that way i don't have to sudo everytime?06:21
dabaRTSCHAK: there probably is, just a command...06:21
chuckypdarkmatter, well you need the ndiswrapper drivers for you card.06:21
ltR20Hello I installed ubuntu (first time linux user) - I can't get a 1280x1024 Resolution and my gamma is dark and i would like to increase it how do i do it? Thanks!06:21
ReWT_Any one have all the 64 bit repos?06:21
GigaByte_Madpilot,ok06:21
chuckypalimh, yes06:21
cilynxltR20: what's your video hardware?06:22
chuckypalimh, i think that might mess some stuff up but hell why not try it.06:22
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GigaByte_Madpilot,i'm will the plan06:22
ltR20cilynx, nvidia 4800se 128meg06:22
MadpilotltR20, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:22
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Madpilot!nvidia06:22
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:22
vdvhi everybody06:22
chuckypalimh, I would try it and goof around like unplug the power etc.. make sure when it switches back down it doesn't blow up.  restart allt hat good stuff.06:22
MadpilotltR20, the Nvidia link too ^^^06:22
volCOM_b0i!nvidia06:22
alimhchuckyp: lol. well, it seems like it works. i'm the only one using my laptop... so i'll stick with it06:22
GrarkFINALLY found it..... where do I output the errors I'm seeing?06:23
chuckypalimh, yeah did you make a shell script then and bind it to a key?06:23
silvaran!paste06:23
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.06:23
cilynxltR20: what they said =)   Read the doco, nVidia is well supported.  Feel free to PM me if you run into issues, I run nVidia on all my machines06:23
GigaByte_Madpilot,i'm make for linux that  ubuntu will be modify to relases for in plan06:23
vdvI'm using Ubuntu 5.04.  why can't I mount sata disk?06:23
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MadpilotGigaByte_, what is your native language?06:23
GigaByte_Madpilot,i'm sorry''06:23
dabaRvdv: cause we do not know what you have tried so far.06:24
GigaByte_Madpilot,i'm not enlinsh06:24
MadpilotGigaByte_, it's OK, but there are Ubuntu channels for lots of languages06:24
GigaByte_Madpilot,ok06:24
vdvis there support for sata in ubuntu?06:24
dabaRyes.06:24
Madpilotvdv, yes, my only HD is SATA06:24
GigaByte_Madpilot,i'm form The Korean06:24
dabaRvdv: what have you tried?06:24
cilynxvdv: I know there is support from Breezy (5.10) on, not sure about Hoary (5.04)06:24
alimhchuckyp: that's the plan....06:24
naliothis there an #ubuntu-kr ?06:25
volCOM_b0iHas anyone changed their repos to dapper and dist-upgrade yet?  If so, how stable was it?06:25
dabaRnalioth: is there a /j;-P06:25
vdvi've got hoary one06:25
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silvaranvolCOM_b0i: I had great luck here, but that's anecdotal.06:25
GigaByte_Madpilot,it's placed06:25
naliothvolCOM_b0i: it's a development distro06:25
Grarkok I just posted it06:25
alimhchuckyp: but i want the script to remember the previous state..06:25
silvaranGrark: If you want other people in the room to see it, you're going to have to post the URL :)06:25
cilynxvolCOM_b0i: I did an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper a while ago and have had few problems.  It did require an hour of messing with broken deps to get everything working though.  ymmv06:25
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Grarkdoh06:25
chuckypalimh, or you can give your user access tot he /proc/.../brightness in sudoers06:25
GigaByte_Madpilot,it's placed from the koreat in chnnel06:25
Grarkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1019306:26
GigaByte_Madpilot,however it's not anwser06:26
MadpilotGigaByte_, try #ubuntu-ko for Korean help06:26
chuckypalimh, i dunno i'm not that far into shell scripts yet.06:26
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GigaByte_Madpilot,ok06:26
vdvis a good idea make LFS using ubuntu 5.04 hoary?06:26
SamineruDoes anyone know how t make it so when image viewer goes to the next image in a series it does not squeeze it to the window size but leaves it zoomed 1:1?06:26
volCOM_b0iI am currently running ubuntu on a laptop, so I am worried that something important may be broken.  I have a bug with gnome-power-manager, so that is my motive for a dist-upgrade as I read it has been fixed in newer versions.06:26
alimhchuckyp: i read man sudoers.. but dono't really understand it06:26
silvaranGrark: That's an awfully weird error... did you try googling for wt-pi-gtk or update your swt libraries?06:26
cilynxvdv: in my experience, you can build LFS from just about anything with a bash shell and a toolchain06:27
chuckypvolCOM_b0i, dist-upgrade should be used instead of upgrade anyways.  Its a smart upgrade06:27
NembutalDoes anyone know what setup tools are the most needed in ubuntu atm=?06:27
Nembutalor most  requested?06:27
vdvby the way, it doesn't build from fedora core06:27
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NembutalI'm planning to write some tool06:27
Nembutalbut don't know yet about what. First planned about a centralized tv card setup tool06:28
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Nembutalvdv, I guess we don't need them :)06:28
Nembutalthey are porting yast2 to debian06:28
Grarkok silvaran I'm going to try vmware now06:28
Nembutal... even though, I haven't seen much progress lately06:28
Nembutal=(06:28
cilynxvolCOM_b0i: one of my Breezy -> Dapper upgrades was on the VPR Matrix 220a5 that I'm on right now.  Again, it took some playing with deps, but it runs nicer now than it did with Breezy06:28
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nekostareh06:28
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nekostarok.06:29
silvaranGrark: Uh, okay...06:29
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Madpilotnalioth, try !msg ubotu ko06:29
Nembutalcilynx, dapper runs remarkably faster than breezy :)06:29
vdvfedora really silly distrib06:29
vdvthat's true06:29
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Nembutalwenn I installed it the frist time, I really wondered about the speed06:29
dabaRvdv: no flaming here.06:29
Nembutalvdv, fedora has no advances t o me somehow06:29
ReWT_Fedora destroyed me.06:29
nekostarhow do i set keepsettings for my hdd in hdparm when it wont let me?06:29
volCOM_b0iYes, I heard that gnome 2.14 was faster than 2.1206:29
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NembutalThe software list isn't quite as big as ubuntus or suse06:29
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vdvsorry, I don't mean it06:29
cilynxNumbutal: I've noticed that overall.  The hardware support, particularly hotplug and laptop junk seems to work much nicer as well.06:29
Nembutaland the hardware recognition is still far behind06:29
hav0khi, im wondering how to use *.run files.  i tried just clicking on them, but it brings up gedit and says it cant view the file.  how can i run the *.run file so it will install?06:29
Nembutalbut I like it , that they help gnome :)06:30
chuckyp********  Here difference between apt-get update,upgrade,and dist-upgrade I'm tired of arguiing.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1019506:30
Nembutalhav0k, chmod +x file.run06:30
nekostarand how else can i make dma=on permenant06:30
Nembutalif it has a execute flag06:30
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chuckypvolCOM_b0i, yes in .14 I see speed increases06:30
Nembutalnekostar, with a script at boottime06:30
chuckypvolCOM_b0i, but if you ar eworried about you laptop crashing dapper is not the answer.06:30
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hav0kNembutal, oh, i didnt know the permissions werent already set06:30
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Nembutalhav0k, gnome asks you if it has an execute flag if you want to look at it with a texteditor06:30
mtopfhi06:30
Nembutalor to execute it06:30
dabaRHi, mtopf06:31
Nembutal(damn, I love gnome :))06:31
mtopfhi dabar06:31
hav0koh06:31
cilynxnekostar: "man hdparm" I think the flag to keep settings is '-k'.  If that doesn't work, i think there is a hdparm script in /etc/init.d where you can set your hdparm settings on boot06:31
dabaRmtopf: just read a little.06:31
Nembutaluser friendly is a way underrated term for gnome / ubuntu06:31
mtopfdabar: aiight homie06:31
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pvd2006how do you figure out what your NTFS windows partition is called under /dev directory? I see hda, hdc1, 2, 3, 406:32
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chuckyp!ntfs06:32
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:32
chuckyppvd2006, ^^06:32
pvd2006Thanks06:32
AshyIsMei'm trying to apt-get install java-package but java-package can't be found apparently06:32
ltR20WHAT'S THE DEFAULT ROOT PWD for a ubuntu install?06:33
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cilynxpvd2006: if you know which hard drive it is on, you can fdisk that hard drive and do a 'p' for 'print' and that will show you what filesystem is on each individual partition06:33
AshyIsMei've enabled all the repositories in synaptic package manager06:33
ltR20the installer never asked me06:33
bimberi!tell ltR20 about root06:33
alimhexit06:33
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volCOM_b0iOK, has anyone experience a bug with gnome-power-manager that when you unplug and close the lid to suspend it ruins suspend all together?  It will only suspend when I log out now..06:33
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MadpilotltR20, there is no root pw working - use sudo & your own user pw06:33
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volCOM_b0iMy laptop would suspend fine until this.06:34
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merchow can i find out what version of ubuntu im running?06:34
bimberimerc: lsb_release -a06:34
mercie. breezy badger 3million etc..06:34
mercah, thanks06:34
hav0kthanks so much Nembutal06:34
dabaRpvd2006: you would "sudo fdisk -l"06:34
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hav0kive been trying to figure out run files for awhile now, and everyone i asked didnt help at all06:34
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volCOM_b0iyou need to chmod the run file to executable. and ./run_file.run in a terminal06:35
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cilynxhav0k: .run is a B.S. file extension for a shell script.  If you "chmod +x" the file, then you can run it like "./blah.run" or if you double click on it, it should ask if you want to execute it06:36
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dabaRAshyIsMe: that is in debian, or in some old version of ubuntu, like maybe warty, or it is an extraneous package. There is no Sun Java in Ubuntu, cause it is not free. You can read about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:36
pvd2006cool I found it06:36
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dabaRpvd2006: ya, it shows there readily visible.06:37
pvd2006If, it tells me that I dont have persmission to view the contents of hdc1 does that mean I need to sudo06:37
AshyIsMedabaR: thanks06:37
Nembutalhav0k, no problem06:37
hav0kwell, later doods06:37
Nembutalhav0k, keep asking if you got probems06:37
dabaRno, it means you need to mount better. or if you like using sudo for something like that...06:37
Nembutalwhoops :/06:37
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Nembutalpvd2006, how did you access it?06:37
Nembutalgnome volume manager?06:37
volCOM_b0idab i installed  j2sdk1.4 and my java applications run fine06:37
pvd2006yes, I used the file browser in gnome06:38
silvaranYarrr... why can't the ntfs driver just set the umask to world-readable?.. is there a logical reason behind that?06:38
pvd2006to try to access it06:38
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chuckyppvd2006, if its ntfs you have to mount it ro,user,auto like the page says06:38
lastetn!pastebin06:38
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:38
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silvaranEverybody and their dog has an ntfs volume by now, it should be user-readable on first boot...06:38
ale_to all: thanks a lot for your help, now i got the sound working and all the codecs installed. I've been using ubuntu for a year, but since in my previous computer ubuntu installed itself with no problems at all, i hadnt needed to learn anything. Thanks again06:38
volCOM_b0iI can run limewire and I installed the mozilla-java deb as well and that works fine too.06:38
Badm4nquestion for newbie : help me pls :( how to clear history on root access and/or user access06:38
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dabaRvolCOM_b0i: that is the blackdown Java. It is shown on that page, I believe. Go read and tell me.06:39
silvaranBadm4n: Delete ~/.bash_history06:39
mconroyCan anyone tell me how to setup xwindows to support my widescreen laptop display?06:39
Badm4nty06:39
silvaranBadm4n: Assuming that's what you want ... ??06:39
silvaranHeh06:39
cilynxmconroy: depends on the display06:40
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volCOM_b0iyup, it is black down, i just looked.06:40
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cilynxmconroy: what have you got?06:40
mconroyIt is a Gateway 3550gz06:40
dabaR!fixres06:40
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:40
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mconroyok06:40
nate_anyone who wants to know more about the ubuntu installer and how to customize and whatnot, check out: someone on ubuntu-boot pointed me to a VERY useful doc (well, so far): http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/06:40
zedzerohow can i generate a .xsession file? without it, i can not startx...06:41
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dabaRThat shows you some things. Or just google for "<your monitor> refresh rates" and follow the instructions on that page for adding them.06:41
manjihey how does one kill a running X server?06:41
nate_i was hassling you all earlier and thought I should show you the outcome06:41
silvaranmanji: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace06:41
manjiah, thank you, thats right06:41
nate_manji, kill or restart?06:41
silvaranmanji: Or from a separate terminal, killall -9 X :)06:41
lastetncilynx watch this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1019706:41
siglaptopanyone know how to get the yahoo part working for gaim?06:41
chuckypmanji, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:41
lastetncilynx wich of them shold i use06:41
siglaptopseems not to be able to connect06:41
dabaRsiglaptop: it works here.06:42
siglaptophrrmm06:42
siglaptopno here06:42
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Badm4n:) thx06:42
dabaRno s***06:42
Badm4noh yes one more06:42
siglaptopI'm using 1.5.006:42
nate_zedzero, seriously, you should just reinstall normally, install xdm and fluxbox, then reconfigure x to use those06:42
dabaRsiglaptop: that is not even in ubuntu, is it? dapper?06:42
nate_zedzero, you would already have it done otherwise06:42
siglaptopno06:42
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zedzeronate_, i tried that but then uninstalling gnome make things even worse06:42
nate_zedzero, why uninstall it?06:43
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nate_zedzero, is hard drive space that precious?06:43
Badm4ni have connected to ISP by cable modem that use dynamic ip ... every n minuetes my resolve.conf always back with line 1 search ispname06:43
silvarandabaR: 1.5.0 is in dapper.06:43
zedzeronate_, because i dont need it, i will never use it, and i need the diskspace badly :)06:43
Badm4neven i have change it to nameserver 191.168.1.25406:43
nate_zedzero, having it installed does not = having it running06:43
Badm4nhow to make it fix06:43
cilynxlastetn: you've got a whole slew of kernel packages installed.   If you're running the most up to date (check with 'cat /proc/version') you can safely apt-get uninstall the rest of them.  After that, 'update-grub' will automatically rebuild your menu to use the kernel you have installed.06:43
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dabaRsilvaran: :/06:43
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yuri_good evening guys, could some expert help me out? I encrypted a file on windows using systweak file encryptor, how do i decrypt that file in ubuntu?06:43
nate_zedzero, ahhh, i see06:43
volCOM_b0iBadm4n, get a router :)06:44
nate_zedzero, isn't there an xubuntu?06:44
Badm4nhuhuehueueh06:44
cafuegoyuri_: my guess would be "not".06:44
dabaR!info gaim06:44
dabaR:/06:44
Badm4n:(06:44
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB06:44
siglaptopI'm not using dapper06:44
Badm4ni mean on my ubuntu server06:44
zedzeronate_, what is xubuntu?06:44
Badm4n:(06:44
silvaranOh there's breezy too..06:44
nate_zedzero, xubuntu with x instead of gnome or kde06:44
silvaran!info xubuntu-desktop06:44
Badm4nis there any ways to make it fix06:44
Badm4n ?06:44
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB06:44
dabaRWhich is strange to me...it should not be there.06:44
siglaptopseems to be breezy stuff in my sources.list06:44
nate_zedzero, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:45
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volCOM_b0iSorry Badm4n, my servers have all been behind a router.06:45
zedzeronate_, now im confused... i thought x is just like a framework for desktop enviroments to run. isnt it? hwo can it run on its own?06:45
Icemanwhats the live cd file system ?06:45
Badm4n:(06:45
Badm4ni c06:45
cilynxzedzero: xubuntu uses a lightweight desktop manager...i think it uses Xfce06:45
bimberi!xubuntu06:45
ubotuxubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu06:45
volCOM_b0iyup, xfce, it is very nice.06:45
silvaranzedzero: xubuntu-desktop uses XFCE, another desktop environment... it's a little more lightweight.06:45
nate_very lightweight, xfce is06:46
cilynxwell, i think we've driven that point into the ground =)06:46
Badm4nanyone knows how to make screensaver auto run on idle x second ? ( i want it will load "cmatrix" on idle )06:46
Icemancrap how to install a complete custom linux distro ... ;(06:46
zedzeroi tried xfce, and its still heavy for my notebook... i think i will insist on fluxbox :)06:46
silvaranHeh06:46
nekostarNembutal, cilynx command_line { hdparm -q -c1 -q -d1 -q -m16 -q -A1 -q -W0 /dev/hdc hdparm -q -c1 -q -d1 -q -m16 -q -A1 -q -W0 /dev/hdd }06:46
nekostarcan i do that?06:46
AshyIsMezedzero: fvwm is good also06:46
Icemanbeen trying for 3 day to build a install ...06:46
AshyIsMeand much more customizable06:46
nekostar[more than one line in the command_line { thing?06:46
nekostaror do i need to do more than one command line?06:46
volCOM_b0iIceman, google Linux from Scratch06:47
lastetncilynx how do i desinstall the others apt-get uninstall kernel 2.6.15-18-386?06:47
Nembutalnekostar, mh?06:47
Nembutalwhat is cilynx ??06:47
nate_zedzero, it's cool, just that xfce takes much less space than gnome, i'm pretty sure, so installing flux alongside that wouldn't be so hard-disk-space intensive06:47
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Nembutalnekostar, actually06:47
silvaranNembutal: Somebody's handle in this channel :)06:47
Nembutalwait a second06:47
nate_zedzero, but it would simplify the installation06:47
Nembutalill show you an example for hdparm06:47
Nembutalon nopaste06:47
Nembutalfor a script06:47
nekostarthanx06:47
IcemanvolCOM_b0i you kow of a distro that will still install to a fat 32 partition ...06:48
nekostarthe /etc/hdparm.conf ?06:48
nate_zedzero, but I'll try to google about creating a .xsession file06:48
cilynxnekostar: looks good to me06:48
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nekostarcilynx, i used two lines there... hdparm starts a line.. *goes to paste hehe*06:48
nekostar!paste06:48
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.06:48
cilynxlastetn: yup "apt-get uninstall [package name] 06:48
zedzeronate_, ok then. so what should i do now? should i reinstall with gnome, get xubuntu images and write on cd and then reinstall??06:48
AlbanianLordive recently tried to compile adesklets on breezy and I keep getting this libiconv error. I installed it, so I don't know whats going on.06:48
nekostarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10198   <<<------ that06:49
AlbanianLordany help would be appreciated06:49
volCOM_b0iI install to a ext3 paritition, and use fat32 for mounts so that it is available in both windows and linux06:49
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Nembutalnekostar, ne sec06:49
Nembutaloh, right06:49
IcemanvolCOM_b0i where to find a linux distro, that can install in fat3206:49
Nembutalhdparm.conf06:49
Nembutalhttp://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=e8c86f177506:49
Nembutalstupid me06:49
nate_zedzero, hmmm, isn't there an xubuntu cd?  let me look06:49
nekostaryes thats in hdparm.conf :)06:49
Nembutalbut this would work also06:49
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axisyshey guys.. when i run irdadump I see it finds nokia 610106:49
Nembutalyou could just link a start script06:49
nekostaro.O06:49
cilynxnekostar: as a straight command line, it looks good to me.  the idea of doing a conf file isn't a bad one though06:50
axisysbut now how do i ping and connect06:50
p01n7Iceman, DSL runs under fat32 and dos i think06:50
zedzeronate_, i only have core ubuntu cd. no kubuntu, no xubuntu, no edubuntu :)06:50
nekostari like that bash script thingie too ... how does one get that to actually run?06:50
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p01n7a.k.a: Damn Small Linux06:50
Icemandsl have kde ?06:50
nekostarand does noflushd interfere with hdparm ?06:50
unfo_Iceman: yes. get D***SmallLinux Embedded.06:50
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nekostardsl is great to play with :P06:50
cilynxIceman: Damn Small Linux can run inside of Windows, else you can use the VMWare Player (which is free) to run "appliances" of many different flavors06:51
unfo_Iceman: it's much slower than an ordinary linux distro tho.06:51
AlbanianLordso does anyone have a solution for my problem?06:51
Icemanpackage managmet ... how buildable ..06:51
p01n7been awhile since i ran it06:51
unfo_VMW Player is faster.06:51
manjialright, so i run the nvidia official driver installer, and it tells me that i need gcc-3.4 to work properly06:51
Icemanp4 2.8 should preform ok ...06:51
axisysi was using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkpadT40IrdaHowto?highlight=irda06:51
manjiso how can i get that to work?06:51
nate_zedzero, hmmm, ok, nevermind the xubuntu, lets continue from where you left off with getting this running, what is your next step?06:51
p01n7Dragon linux will run from dos06:51
zedzeronate_, i just learned that i can install xubuntu by just installing xubuntu-desktop06:51
Nembutalnekostar, tried puppy linux?06:51
axisysbut i have a nc622006:51
cilynxAlbanianLord: why are you complining instead of installing the prefab package?06:51
Nembutalpuppy linux uses fvwm or something alike06:51
nate_zedzero, so do that? :D06:51
silvaranAlbanianLord: What iconv error?06:51
NembutalI like the win95 style06:51
Nembutalplain simple and useful06:51
Nembutal:)06:51
zedzeronate_, i will now :)06:52
cilynxmanji: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.406:52
Nembutalbut compared to win9506:52
nate_zedzero, let me know :)06:52
Nembutalit is stable ;I06:52
AlbanianLordill paste it silvaran06:52
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manjicilynx: yeah but the system wants to use gcc-4.0 only06:52
Icemanp01n7 tried dragon, lacks newer hardware support, and just had bash runnung06:52
silvaranmanji: Why not get the prepackaged one (linux-restricted-modules or whatever)06:52
lastetncilynx "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-" isn't it this way06:52
pvd2006It is not giving me persmission to change the settings for hdc1 which is my NTFS partition it keeps saying permission denied and I followed the guide I tried the script and the manual way.06:52
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Icemanp01n7 d s l has what packages available ...06:52
nekostarNembutal, nope not tried p l ... heard it was fun htough06:53
manjisilvaran: i was told (by the website) that i should get rid of those, should i get it back and try again?06:53
p01n7Iceman, i'm on Mandrivia now .. and i love it.. dsl, being 50 mb's, doesnt have many apps.. but you can change that06:53
cilynxlastetn: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.12-9-386" and such06:53
manjisilvaran: im trying to get GLX working06:53
silvaranmanji: Hang on, what link told you this?06:53
axisysi wonder if there is a infra read chnl for linux06:53
axisyswhere I can get sme help06:53
Icemanp01n7 whats app install like ... ?06:53
silvaranmanji: The prepackaged stuff should work great...06:53
chuckypaxisys, what are you trying to do?06:53
chuckypaxisys, get ir working?06:54
cilynxmanji: why not use the nvidia module in the restricted-modules package as opposed to building it?06:54
axisyschuckyp: yeap06:54
p01n7Very simple.. i think it boots like a live distro then you can install it after that06:54
Nembutalnekostar, it's well made06:54
NembutalI like the gui06:54
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chuckypaxisys, lirc is what youa re looking for06:54
manjisilvaran: ubuntu.com, search 'nvidia', first found link, then the article on nvidia not working06:54
NembutalI don't remember if it was fvwm9506:54
p01n7it's been awhile.. things may have chnaged06:54
Icemanp01n7 though i read it want to partition, i'll look again06:54
manjicilynx: because after a fresh install, glxgears were running horribly06:54
axisysso this is not good https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkpadT40IrdaHowto?highlight=irda06:54
AlbanianLordsilvaran see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1019906:54
pvd2006it wont let me change anything in the etc/fstab file for the NTFS partition06:55
chuckypaxisys, let me see06:55
cilynxmanji: did you check your glxinfo to make sure direct rendering was working?  i use GLX with the Ubuntu nVidia drivers06:55
manjicilynx: no, i didnt.06:55
silvaran!info adesklets06:56
volCOM_b0ipvd2006: to my knowledge, it isn't safe to edit contents of your ntfs partition from linux.06:56
ubotuadesklets: (interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.8-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 295 kB, Installed size: 1516 kB06:56
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lastetncilynx thanks i already did it06:56
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chuckypaxisys, that should work06:56
silvaranAlbanianLord: I'm guessing you want a more recent version, which is why you're compiling yourself?06:56
cilynxmanji: might want to do that.  "glxinfo | grep direct" should say yes, not no06:56
manjicilynx: direct rendering: no06:57
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axisyschuckyp: but i have a nc6220 .. not thinkpad06:57
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manjicilynx: but, this is after i uninstalled all my stuff06:57
Icemanp01n7 does dsl include x ... gnome ?06:57
chuckypaxisys, err lirc is for remote controls.  I don't know exactly what you ware trying to do.  But that wiki should work.06:57
manjicilynx: let me get back to you, and thanks for the help06:57
cilynxmanji: np, i'll be around for a while06:57
chuckypaxisys, the packages arent' specifically for a thinkpad.  The only difference maybe the /dev/<devicename>06:57
axisyschuckyp: i am trying to download file to my phone06:58
AlbanianLordsilvaran this is the output im getting from the adesklets06:58
intelikeydoes xorg   or gnome support the screen shots ?06:58
axisyschuckyp: how do i find what would be my device06:58
Nembutalintelikey, press print screen06:58
chuckypaxisys, I would just figure out which /dev/<name>  your irda port is on.06:58
lastetncilynx thank u wery much06:58
Nembutalit takes a screensho and tkaes you to a dialog06:58
p01n7Iceman, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/06:58
silvaranAlbanianLord: Are you on breezy or dapper?06:58
p01n7www.distrowatch.org for reviews06:58
Nembutalintelikey, or did I misunderstand you?06:58
intelikeyNembutal did that,   i have twm not gnome..06:58
axisyschuckyp: ifconfig shows irda0 up06:58
p01n7but this is #ubuntu06:58
p01n7not #dsl06:59
cilynxlastetn: np, feel free to ask if you run into anything else06:59
AlbanianLordbreezy silvaran06:59
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silvaranAlbanianLord: Does "./configure --help" give you anything about enabling/disabling iconv support?06:59
lastetncilynx thank u wery much06:59
Icemanp01n7 looking ... dont see gnome ... ;(06:59
manjicilynx: gonna give her a restart, brb07:00
Suture__..07:00
intelikeyNembutal i was looking for a way to make a screen shot, yes.   but print screen doesn't seem to do anything in twm.07:00
Grarkok one program fixed...moving to next one.07:00
lastetncilynx the las question, now i can install the xgl07:00
Grarkjust wanted to come back and say thanks to everyone for the encouragement07:00
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AlbanianLordsilvaran ill see07:00
gravesonubuntu 5.10 installs the incorrect kernel ,so i downloaded an installed -liunx-686 ,but i am sure my pc has a pentium 4 processor.is this the correct kernel?07:00
chuckypaxisys, hrm... I've never used ir like you are using it perhaps someone else here is.07:00
volCOM_b0iXGL and Compiz was painless with an nvidia card, haven't got it to work with my ati though :(07:00
cilynxdoes anyone know if the Dapper install is accessible such that a blind user can do their own install?07:01
chuckypvolCOM_b0i, was it worth the hassle?07:01
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AlbanianLordnegative silvaran07:01
chuckypvolCOM_b0i, I'm just forseeing the nightmares when I want to remove its pakcages and it wants to whipe gnome or something.07:01
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intelikeygraveson smp ?07:01
axisyschuckyp: thnx07:01
nate_WOW, XGL IS AWESOME!!!!07:01
nate_i've got it running, w00t!07:02
gravesonintelikey: i am not sure ,how can i verify that ?07:02
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volCOM_b0iIt would crash randomly.  when running from xgl, it would start normally, but only start when i ran a script placed in the /usr/bin07:02
intelikeyheheh graveson i don't know    all i have is old p1 stuff07:02
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lastetncilynx sorry disconnect, now i can install the xgl07:02
Nembutalintelikey, ah, yo uuse twm :)07:02
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Badm4nhow to make idle action on user that connect using putty ?07:02
nate_i'm running xgl from a livecd called kororaa07:02
cilynxhave other people had issues with XGL/Compiz messing up if you change the keybindings?07:03
Nembutaldoesn' work of course that way07:03
Nembutalstart gimp07:03
silvaranAlbanianLord: Argh... I have no idea... sorry07:03
Nembutalif you have it07:03
volCOM_b0iIt wasn't usable, but fun to play with.  I found it crashed when I would type.07:03
Nembutalyou can take a screenshot with gimp07:03
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cilynxlastetn: np, have fun with it07:03
chuckypNembutal, you can take a screen shot with gnome07:03
AlbanianLordsilvaran thanks anyway07:03
volCOM_b0iWhen I would type capital letters, XGL would always crash.07:03
Nembutalchuckyp, I just said that?07:03
Nembutal^^07:03
lastetncilynx do u know a good manual?07:03
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NembutalFile->Get(? I got the german version, "Hole")07:03
AlbanianLordanyone know why im getting this blasted error?07:03
cilynxlastetn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto07:04
chuckypNembutal, Oh i'm not really reading07:04
lastetnok thanks07:04
Nembutalmaybe it's import instead of get07:04
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chuckypstupid printer istn' working.  arghhh07:04
lastetnok bye07:04
Nembutalintelikey, did it work?07:04
intelikeyNembutal ok... no gimp either.  so it is gnome that is supporting screen shots     but i'm sure there is a cli way to print one frame of the vidio output.07:04
gravesonhow can i make sure that ,my installationis not using the default  installed kernel ,but the kernel  i  installed07:04
carnyhow do i check for opengl??07:04
manjicilynx: yeah so i re-installed what i figured was glx stuff, restarted, and now X doesnt even start with GLX07:04
silvaranAlbanianLord: After you run ./configure, try editing by hand config.in to change "HAVE_ICONV_H 1" to "HAVE_ICONV_H 0"07:04
AlbanianLordchuckyp try getting a cannon PIXMA to work!07:04
silvaranAlbanianLord: Sorry, config.h I think07:05
AlbanianLordyou think it will work07:05
AlbanianLord?07:05
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silvaranAlbanianLord: Nope, but give it a shot anyways ;)07:05
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intelikeyNembutal it's no biggy anyhow.   tanks for the  TOD07:05
nekostarah07:05
manjicilynx: any ideas?07:05
cilynxmanji: as in no direct rendering?  do you have the nvidia modules installed?  are you using the nvidia xorg module as opposed to nv? (I hope I'm on the right train of thought)07:05
nekostari needed seperate lines for each drive in /etc/hdparm.conf07:05
nekostarand it didnt like the -q swith07:06
nekostar*switch07:06
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pvd2006finally got it to work:)07:06
volCOM_b0iYes, just because you've installed the nvidia-glx doesn't mean it will run unless you change the NV to nvidia in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:06
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manjicilynx: X does not have GLX extensions running at all currently, and how does one go about using nvidia-xorg instead of nv?07:06
pvd2006I had to unmount the windows partition and delete its entry from the fstab file and re-run the script.07:07
manjicilynx: Driver "nvidia" instead of "nv"?07:07
carnyhello.. how can i check if opengl is running??07:07
volCOM_b0imanji: change nv to nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:07
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cilynxmanji: as volCOM_B0i said, look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ..... yeah...what he said07:07
intelikey!tell manji about nvidia07:07
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AlbanianLordno luck silvaran07:07
silvarancarny: glxinfo will give you that...07:07
silvaranAlbanianLord: Did you run a "make clean all"?07:08
cilynxcarny: glxinfo will tell you a lot of good stuff07:08
chuckypHelps if I was using proper drivers07:08
chuckyplol07:08
chuckypAlbanianLord, ^^07:08
blueOrangehi to all the ubu folks! im linux noob, have tried mandrake and i expect to install ubuntu on an IBM thinkpad t21 i ordered off ebay.07:08
chuckypAlbanianLord, ahh poop out of ink too just greate07:09
cilynxblueOrange: greetings and salutations.  any questions?07:09
carnydoes that mean its not accelerated?07:09
AlbanianLordlol chuckyp07:09
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manjicilynx: thanks so much, got everything working07:09
cilynxcarny: "glxinfo|grep direct" will tell you if you have acceleration working or not07:10
manjicilynx: you have a good night07:10
cilynxmanji: np.  congrats on getting it up and running.  you too.07:10
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carny  OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect07:10
AlbanianLordno luck07:11
chuckypAlbanianLord, well got enough ink to print the xgl instructions07:11
cilynxcarny: what's your video hardware?07:11
carnyOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect07:11
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carnyits an ati mobility m107:11
blueOrangei will want to buy a  pcmcia/card bus (is there a diference) 802.11g card for it right off. i have been looking at the list of suported cards at ubuntu.com .  Since i am sure this is a very common thing for people to buy, can anyone make a recomendation of a card they know works. I'd be looking to get the least expensive card that works well.07:11
carnyso its a rage pro chipset.. 8mb ram07:11
AlbanianLordahh chuckyp then all is not lost lol07:11
CrashProneSo eh.. I installed Xgl on Ubuntu and it works great-- one thing, (this is more about "how do I use .Xsession" than Xgl) I changed the settings in ~/.Xsession after I ran it the first time, but it's still using the old settings.  How do I get it to... use the changed settings I set in .Xsession?07:11
V4Vendettawhats XGL ?07:11
cilynxcarny: beyond my experience...  this will probably be helpful:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:12
volCOM_b0iI juse fglrx for my ati card07:12
carnythanx.. but thats not helpful.. been there07:12
cilynxV4Vendetta: XGL is eye candy.  Really nice eye candy07:12
V4Vendettacilynx, how do i get it07:12
Icemanp01n7 whats package install like in dsl  ?07:12
blueOrangeit can be a little confusing when looking at the list of suported cards and then trying to match that to the least expensive cards at, for instance, newegg.com as none of the less expensive ones are mentioned.07:12
cilynxV4Vendetta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto07:12
silvaran!tell V4Vendettaabout xgl07:12
silvaranHaha...07:13
silvaran!tell V4Vendetta about xgl07:13
AlbanianLordbah! I give up in this endeavor, but sooner or later I will succeed07:13
AlbanianLordand I will use adesklets to rule the world!07:14
cilynxblueOrange: for all intents and purposes pcmcia == card bus.  It's not really true, but it may as well be.  I have found the Prism54 chipset to be a nice 802.11g setup.07:14
CrashProneSo yeah, can anybody tell me of ~/.Xsession (I'm unfamiliar-ish with its use) and how I'd get it to use the settings I just changed in it?07:14
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silvaranCrashProne: Is there a "default" session in the list?07:14
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nekostar;p;07:15
nekostarlol07:15
blueOrangemost of the sights i look at dont say which chipset a specific card uses, which makes it dificult to figure out.07:15
nekostarthat looks like a glorified 3ddesktop07:15
nekostaranyone tried that?07:15
nekostarits rather kewl07:15
nekostar:D07:15
CrashPronesilvaran: Yes, I used it, it worked.  But then I changed the settings in .Xsession , but default seemed to use the settings before I changed it..07:15
volCOM_b0iyes, XGL & COMPIZ, though very unstable, is very nice07:15
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silvaranCrashProne: What if you change to another one, then change back? ;)07:16
Grarkok dumb question07:16
silvaranCrashProne: Sucks, but it's the only thing I can think of.07:16
GrarkI seem to have "locked" apt-get in a session.07:16
CrashPronesilvaran: tried that too. *sniff*07:16
cilynxblueOrange: I hate to put it this way, but "welcome to Linux".  You have already found the list of supported cards.  Beyond that, it's just good quality time with Google to find out what you need.07:16
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Grarkwhere's the equivilance to "task manager" to see the processes running and kill them?07:16
volCOM_b0iGrark, do you have synaptic running?07:16
volCOM_b0iOr any other Package manager?07:16
GrarkvolCOM_b0i, can't it says it can't get a lock07:17
bradd_Is there anything cool about Linux?07:17
bradd_Like... what can I do w/ it that I can't w/ anyother OS?07:17
bradd_besides get rid of Windows07:17
GrarkvolCOM_b0i, that's what I'm trying to undo07:17
liableps aux, kill killall pkill and friends.07:17
BlippeGrark in terminal top and killall07:17
cilynxGrark: 'top' or 'ps aux' are good places to start07:17
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silvaranGrark: If you can find the locked file (/var/lib/apt?) you can do an lsof ... but if you don't have lsof, you need to apt-get install it, which defeats the purpose ;)07:17
farousanyone using fluxbox here have a problem with presentations being out of screen in openoffice or powerpoint under wine07:18
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V4Vendettahow do i get gtk+-2.0 i can't find it in apt07:18
carnyhow can i enable dri?????07:18
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cilynxbradd: Advanced networking stuff is nice.  Not dealing with viruses is nice.  Switching what your interface looks like whenever you want is nice.  It's really just up to your preferences.07:18
Grarkyou guys are so smart :)07:18
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Grarkunlocked, thank you07:18
V4Vendetta!gtk07:18
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, V4Vendetta07:18
volCOM_b0icarny, you have ATI right? Have you tried to use the fglrx drivers instead of ATI?07:18
Grarkjust had to remove cd-rom from "source"07:18
silvaranGrark: What did it?07:19
bradd_what do you think of OSX?07:19
chuckypya xgl works07:19
blueOrangeok, thxs silynx. i guess i was hoping for a shortcut, but i should be able to figure out.  it just seemed like enough othher people must have figured this out recently that each new person shouldnt have to figure it out all over again! but yea, i got it.  well, im sure ill be back once i have ubuntu up and running! thxs.07:19
V4Vendettahow do i get gtk+-2.0 i can't find it in apt07:19
cilynxcarny: look in your xorg.conf and make sure "dri" is a loaded module07:19
Grarksilvaran, top07:19
carnyit is loaded07:19
silvaranV4Vendetta: Unless you're running a minimal system, you pretty much have to have gtk already installed..07:19
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carnybut when i do glxinfo grep|direct it says its disabled07:19
cilynxV4Vendetta: libgtk2.0-007:19
V4Vendettasilvaran, gtkpod says i need gtk+-2.007:19
V4Vendettacilynx, thanks07:19
volCOM_b0iATI drivers stink, my 200m doesn't accept DRI from ati drivers, but flgrx work07:20
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volCOM_b0ifglrx^07:20
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bradd_Nvidia Drivers don't work all the great eather07:20
silvaranV4Vendetta: are you getting an error message, or just checking prerequisites?07:20
cilynxbradd: Personally, I like OSX.  I run a couple of OSX servers and I don't hate the interface.  OSX is basically BSD with a pretty front end.07:20
V4Vendettasilvaran, configure: error: *** Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search pa th.07:20
V4VendettaPerhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'07:20
bradd_BSD?07:20
bradd_what's BSD?07:20
silvaranV4Vendetta: Ahhh... you need the dev stuff.07:20
cilynxblueOrange: sorry to not be more help.  Good luck on the hunt.07:21
V4Vendettasilvaran, how do i get that07:21
CrashProneBSD is like Linux ... different lisence on it..07:21
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heatxsink_anyone in here know how to get the firewire port wokring on a Audigy 2 ZS?07:21
cilynxbradd: BSD == Berkely System Distribution or something like that.  It's another varient of UNIX just like Linux is07:21
silvaranV4Vendetta: Looking...07:21
carnyIn the xorg.conf file under Section "DRI" it has mode 066607:21
silvaranLet me throw this out here... which package contains the GTK2 development files?07:21
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bradd_I see07:22
V4Vendettasilvaran, i'm downloading it from an ftp, server maybe i can get it installed if it's source or something07:22
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silvaranV4Vendetta: How about "apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev"?07:22
cilynxsilvaran: libgtk2.0-dev07:22
bradd_it's licenced... so it will cost $$$?07:22
V4Vendettasilvaran, okay one sec07:22
silvarancilynx: Haha thanks.07:22
V4Vendettasilvaran, getting it, thanks07:23
cilynxbradd: there are free $ versions of BSD07:23
cilynxbradd: look into OpenBSD and NetBSD for a start07:23
silvaranAnd freeBSD07:23
V4Vendetta:-D07:23
cilynxthat too07:23
silvaranWhich puts the f-r-e-e in, ... uh, free.07:23
V4Vendettasilvaran, the gtkpod that's packaged for breezy crashes07:23
V4Vendettasilvaran, that's why i'm upgding07:23
silvaranV4Vendetta: gotcha...07:23
V4Vendettasilvaran, it writes the files succesfully, but i always have to xkill it07:23
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bradd_I found it... is it cool???07:24
volCOM_b0ibradd_: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:24
bradd_do any of you have BSD?07:24
Nembutalmh, does gtkpod work with other mp3 players, too?07:24
V4VendettaNembutal, no, i think not07:24
Nembutalok07:24
V4VendettaNembutal, because they don't use iTunes databases07:24
Nembutalah, right07:25
Nembutalapple uses that sucky proprietary thign :|07:25
V4VendettaNembutal, alot of mp3 players you can just drag ffiles/folders into them07:25
cilynxbradd:  I have run BSD on a couple of different systems.  Many people promote it for security.  It's right up impossible for a newcomer to maintain though.07:25
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V4VendettaNembutal, i wish ipod was like that.07:25
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michael117can anyone help me get fluxbox working?07:26
jetscreamerflux requires selinux and bsd... (j/k)07:27
Nembutalmichael117, what's the prob?07:27
V4Vendettamichael117, sudo apt-get install fluxbox07:27
V4Vendettaand select it from the sessions on the login page07:27
bradd_hmm, thanks07:27
bradd_what do you guys do all night? Just help people w/ this linux stuff?07:27
michael117I'm actually have ubuntu on my regular machine and debian on a server/testbox on which I am trying to remotely install fluxbox07:27
V4Vendettabradd_, and sleep07:28
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bradd_I am looking to make this a server... is it easy to run a server?07:28
volCOM_b0iI am just reading and look to see what others are having trouble with.07:28
V4Vendettamichael117, ssh in and type, sudo apt-get install fluxbox07:28
boscohow do i remove one file not the whole directory07:28
cilynxbradd_: normally, I sleep.  I try to give a little back to the community before that though.07:28
V4Vendettabosco, sudo rm -r filename07:28
michael117but debian and ubuntu are very similar and the folks over at #debian seem to ignore me07:28
bradd_that's cool... I would like to... but i am a noob07:28
bradd_to Linux07:29
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michael117V4Vendetta: I have already installed it but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/60007307:29
cilynxbradd_: it depends on what you want it to do.  What do you want this server to do for you?07:29
bradd_but I like it... It helps kill windows07:29
bradd_like... pictures and music and VIDEOS07:29
carny!ati07:29
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358907:29
volCOM_b0iBradd, google around for ways to secure debian, that is what I did when I set up a server.07:29
bradd_what IS debian? is that Ubuntu?07:30
michael117bradd_: Debian is a different distribution that Ubuntu is based off of which created the whole apt package system07:31
cilynxbradd_: I also got into Linux on an Anti-Windows binge, but these days, I simply find it easier to use and maintain.  Debian is the distribution of Linux that Ubuntu is based on.  Ubuntu is more politically strict whereas Ubuntu is more user friendly07:31
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heatxsink_anyone in here know how to get the firewire port working on a Audigy 2 ZS?07:31
CrashProne!tell CrashProne about xgl07:31
CrashProneYay!07:32
jetscreameri think you mistyped that cilynx07:32
bradd_I see....07:32
jetscreamer2 ubuntu07:32
bradd_so what is the best looking GUI of any Linux?07:32
bradd_Like which dist.?07:32
cilynxjetscreamer: how so?07:32
CrashProneYou can get any GUI in most distros of Linux!07:32
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cilynxbradd_: in my opinion, the Gnome setup that Ubuntu uses is more attractive than the default setup in any other flavor07:33
cilynxbradd_: KDE in SUSE isn't bad though07:33
volCOM_b0ibradd_ you can see this for yourself.  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE07:33
bradd_Oh yah, SUSE..... I was thinking about buying that... does anyone know anything about that....07:34
cilynxjetscreamer: wow...i should sleep....    Debian is more politically strict.  Ubuntu is more user friendly.07:34
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boscois there anyway to add more desktops vai teminal07:34
pvd2006WOOT! being able to watch my favorite videos, use limewire, chat, burn a cd, and run terminal programs at once is a lot better than what I was doing on windows.07:34
boscoi have google it and looked in the ububntu forums and notihgng came up07:34
rixthHow can I get the card reader in my laptop to work?07:35
rixthOr not even try?07:35
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cilynxbradd: SUSE is pretty good.  I don't know that I would pay for it though.  something you might find useful: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/07:35
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V4Vendettasecurity.ubuntu.com is down isn't it07:36
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cilynxbradd: the VMWare Player lets you try out operating systems without having to really install them07:36
bradd_is it like.... a liveCD? kinda07:37
volCOM_b0iVirtual Machine07:37
bradd_I see07:37
cilynxbosco: are you trying to add more text consoles or more graphical desktops?07:37
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boscocilynx more graphical desktops07:38
bradd_is there a way to get SUSE w/ out buying it?07:38
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volCOM_b0iyes07:38
bradd_b/c I looked and it just said where to get it07:38
bradd_and It was like $6007:38
bradd_where?07:38
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volCOM_b0ilet me get the link07:39
bradd_thnx07:39
frank23bradd_: opensuse07:39
NembutalBadm4n, there is opensuse07:39
volCOM_b0iopensuse.org i think07:39
cilynxbosco: i think you said before, but what window manager are you using?07:39
NembutalI tried it07:39
volCOM_b0ihttp://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org07:39
Nembutalin my opinion, it completly loses against ubuntu dapper07:39
boscocilynx, i am using e1707:39
Nembutaleven though YaST2 is  nice07:39
nekostar\o/07:40
Nembutalbut the current opensuse has many flaws07:40
nekostarhey thanx guys for your help on hdparm07:40
nekostar:)07:40
ChoddedOne of the apt mirrors seems to be down :/07:40
boscocilynx, do you have any idea07:40
boscos07:40
frank23Nembutal: like what? i don't really know opensuse07:40
Nembutaland opensuse has very few mirrors compared to ubuntu07:40
volCOM_b0iI just installed fedora today, I wasn't that impressed compared to ubuntu.07:40
Nembutalfrank23, the hardware recognition somehow sucked. a lot of things didn work (my old tv card that worked on any linux, a quite new webcam, my digicam)07:41
boscocilynx, cuz i am out of ideas07:41
cilynxbosco: sorry, Enlightenment is beyond me.  I didn't see anything on a quick Google run.  Anyone else?07:41
boscocilynx, nor did i but thank you07:41
Nembutaland it misses a lot of ubuntu-setup tools and enhancements07:41
Nembutalin gnome07:41
Nembutalthat only ubuntu has07:41
bradd_is Ubuntu the most popular/07:41
NembutalI really can't recommend anyone opensuse07:41
frank23Nembutal: ok07:41
Nembutalbradd_, for good reason07:41
NembutalI used debian for years07:41
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GrarkWell well what a LOT of futzing and reading :) I LOVE IT07:42
Nembutalarch linux, somewhen tried mandriva for a while and even ran opensuse for a few months07:42
cilynxbradd_: check out distrowatch.com07:42
GrarkI'm up and running now07:42
Grarkthanks everyone07:42
Nembutalas I am desktop user, ubuntu is really the best to me$07:42
NembutalI'm a developper and desktop user07:42
FlannelKingEnlightenments documentation isn't anywhere to be found... easily anyway.  Their sites just an ad.07:42
bradd_k07:42
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boscowhen is the new ubuntu comming out does anyone know i know that it comes out every 6 months or so07:42
volCOM_b0ihttp://www.enlightenment.org/07:42
boscobreezy badger is the latest07:42
Nembutalbosco, 20th of april07:42
Nembutalafair$07:43
GrarkJust a hint in the future, this HELPED a lot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare07:43
boscoNembutal, what is it called do you konw07:43
Nembutalbut it maybe gbecomes late07:43
Nembutaldapper drake07:43
Nembutalthe new ubuntu07:43
boscoNembutal, yes07:43
Nembutalor what do you mean?07:43
chuckypshoutcast techno rocks07:43
mamanjoin #hula07:43
Nembutalit's named dapper drake07:43
bradd_doesn't OSX use gnome???07:43
Nembutalbradd_, hell no ;)07:43
Choddedno lol07:43
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boscoNembutal,  the name like breezy badger07:43
NembutalOSX uses Aqua07:43
chuckypNembutal, possible delay though07:43
Nembutalgnome just imitates the OSX look a bit07:43
Nembutalbosco, yes, that's dapper drake07:44
bradd_Oh..I thought I saw something in osx about gnome07:44
boscoNembutal,  thank you07:44
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bdash__Is it possible to have gnome remember windows locations on the screen or is it programme specific?07:44
volCOM_b0iyou can run it on osx. Because it is unix based07:44
boscoNameeater, can i ubdate without loosing all of my stuff i have already07:44
cilynxbradd_: you can run gnome under X11 under OSX, but that's an advanced configuration, by no means the default setup07:44
Nameeaterbosco: I have no idea, but hello! :)07:45
bradd_yah... I haven't fucked w/ the mac like that... I dont plan to07:45
ChoddedIs there anyway to resize a ext3 partition?07:45
boscoNameeater, hello07:45
bradd_well... b/c it costs $$$07:45
Nembutalbradd_, anyway, I wouldn't use gnome on OSX anyway :)07:45
bradd_yah07:45
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boscoNameeater,  i run a computer bussiness and i just got 500 coppies to distribute for free with pc repairs07:45
Nembutalgnome tries to look quite a bit like OSX in terms of using07:45
cilynxChodded: look into gParted07:45
ChoddedWell qtparted should be able to07:46
NembutalI love the way gnome interacts with the user07:46
ChoddedBut it's my root partition07:46
Nembutalcompeltly functional-oriented07:46
ChoddedSo I think that may be why I can't resize it07:46
cilynxChodded: get a live cd.  The Ubuntu live cd has gParted on it, not sure about qtparted07:46
frank23Chodded: maybe if you run the live cd,07:46
Choddedhmm07:46
volCOM_b0iis there an e17  repo for breezy?07:46
ChoddedIs it safe to do such a thing though?07:47
Nameeaterbosco: thats a real bastard considering the latest security risk :/07:47
ChoddedI've put ALOT of work into my system so I don't won't to start over07:47
boscoNameeater,  i know07:47
cilynxChodded: I have done it to no ill effect.  It should work with no problem.  As always, YMMV07:47
Nameeaterbosco: do you have a rifle + disc launcher? ^^07:47
boscoName yes i do07:47
Choddedcilynx, alright07:47
chuckypNameeater, it will auto update07:47
boscoNameeater,  yes i do07:48
volCOM_b0iAnyone know of an e17 repo for breezy?07:48
Nameeaterthat could be some good fun ;)07:48
ChoddedSpeaking of Aqua, is it possible to port Aqua to Linux?07:48
FlannelKingChodded: it currently runs on BSD, so, technically.07:49
ChoddedWell ya07:49
Nameeaterchuckyp: synaptic auto updates the flaw or does it require user interaction?07:49
ChoddedDarwin is BSD07:49
FlannelKingNameeater: it updates it07:49
GTroyshould I go to ubuntu-offtopic to ask about a good video card?07:49
Nameeaterwith no interaction what so ever?07:49
FlannelKingNameeater: if they install, then update, they're good.07:49
jetscreamerthink nvidia07:49
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GTroyjetscreamer: under 75?07:49
V4Vendettawhat package is libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?07:49
jetscreamerand do research first07:49
Nameeateryes but your talking potenially morons here who wont care what the flashing icon is07:50
volCOM_b0iGTroy, I would get an Nvidia over ATI card if your wanting to run linux.07:50
FlannelKingNameeater: it doesn't flash ;) but yeah, no interaction if they update.07:51
nate_GTroy, go nvidia....07:51
jetscreamerGTroy: yeah you can find something for that... fx6200 maybe.. fx5500 for sure07:51
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GTroyjetscreamer: cool07:51
FlannelKingactually, doesn't the installer check for new packages?07:51
cilynxGTroy: I have an fx5500 (which as JS said, you can get on the cheap) and I am very happy with it for normal use and 3d acceleration07:51
boscohey how do i register in the linux room07:52
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floppyearshi07:52
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GTroyI want to use xgl and compiz, and.......second life and Wow07:52
floppyearshow can I mount and unmount an usb thumbdrive?07:52
GTroyI know.....tall order07:52
Choddedbosco /msg nickserv register passwordhere07:52
V4Vendettasecurity.ubuntu.com is down isn't it07:52
frank23GTroy: I don't know where the price for fx5900 is now but it works great07:52
nate_GTroy, lol, you might want to spend more on a gfx card then07:52
knoppixhello.  my breezy badger indigested on gnome-baker and now the root mounts ro because of the errors=remount-ro entry in fstab.  can't boot because too many errors because files are read only.  what should I do ?07:52
ChoddedV4Vendetta, it was but it appears to be back up07:52
cilynxGTroy: xgl/compiz is smooth as silk, as is Unreal Tourny...that's my experience07:52
V4VendettaChodded, :-d07:53
boscoChodded, so i type in my nick serv and what07:53
boscomy pass07:53
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GTroycilynx: what do you uses?07:53
Choddedbosco just do that command that i wrote07:53
Choddedbosco /msg nickserv register passwordhere07:53
cilynxGTroy: nVidia fx550007:53
nate_GTroy, do you have PCI xpress?07:53
GTroysorry about the repeat07:53
MCskill-itI hope that dapper includes the latest network-manager ( version6.1 ) when it's released07:53
boscoChodded, thankyou07:53
Choddedno prob07:53
GTroyno...crap I've only got a agp 4x07:53
frank23will it be easy to setup wpa in dapper?07:53
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Nembutalfrank23, quite07:54
Nembutalfrank23, there's a graphical tool07:54
Nembutalndisgtk07:54
Choddedbosco, and when you disconnect and come back on freenode and want to log back in as a registered user type /msg nickserv identify passwordhere07:54
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Nembutalif you need ndiswrapper07:54
nate_GTroy, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681419001007:54
Nembutalif not, network-admin07:54
GTroynate_: thanks, I love newegg07:54
kethinovhi all, i just install xgl and compiz from universe and they work great. but is there anyway to get a respectable nvidia twinview setup under this?07:54
cilynxknoppix: boot a live cd.  fsck your root partition of the actual system.  boot back into your real system07:54
frank23Nembutal: does network-admin work well in breezy? I never tried it07:54
MCskill-itkethinov: what guide did you follow?07:55
FlannelKingcilynx: something tells me he's on a liveCD right now ;)07:55
MCskill-itto setup xgl07:55
bradd_does Linux understand ISO files??? like, will it burn them for me or do I have to get a program for it?07:55
Choddedyes07:55
kethinovMCskill-it, just apt-get installed all the stuff07:55
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V4Vendettabradd_, it will burn them07:55
cilynxFlannelKing: good point =)07:55
bradd_sweet07:55
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Nembutalfrank23, of course07:55
Nembutal:)07:55
nate_GTroy, that one should run most of what you want07:55
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Nembutalfrank23, you can configure the key for the wlan etc.07:55
GTroynate_: very cool, thanks07:55
Nembutalas far as I rembmer07:55
MCskill-itkethinov: did you have to make changes to your X.org files or gdm files?07:56
knoppixcilynx ok I am live on knoppix.  what is the commandline. e2fsck ?07:56
NembutalI only have a non-wireless network card here07:56
ryoohkii'm think i was just root-kitted via apt-get07:56
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Nembutalbut I used it on my laptop07:56
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kethinovMCskill-it, i had to alter gdm to start the xgl server instead of xorg07:56
nate_GTroy, and if you want to see the rest of the vid cards from $50-$75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010380048+4026&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48&Order=priced07:56
frank23Nembutal: ok.  so it does both wep and wpa?07:56
Nembutalmh, good  question07:56
NembutalI'm not sure07:56
frank23Nembutal: right now in kde I can only setup wep07:56
NembutalI thought both07:56
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MCskill-itokay thanks07:56
Nembutalbut I might be wrong07:56
cilynxknoppix: Assuming your root partition is ext3 (which I think is Ubuntu default) "fsck.ext3"07:56
Nembutaldon't quote me on that07:56
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FlannelKingryoohki: why's that07:57
nate_GTroy, you love me, I know07:57
GTroynate_: thanks, for now I'll look at the reviews of the 620007:57
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GTroyhahaha07:57
ryoohkisu and login changed07:57
frantichello ubuntu friends07:57
bradd_oh hey, I have 2 hdds.... Why can't the 2nd one be enabled when I try to in the disk util. in linux?07:57
ryoohkion a kernel update that seemed to take forever to download07:57
bradd_it's set up as a slave to the other hdd07:57
FlannelKingryoohki: official repositories?07:57
cilynxbradd_: what's on said second hard drive?07:57
knoppixcilynx ok, it is an ext3 filesystem Thanks, going to do.07:57
cilynxknoppix: good luck07:58
bradd_huh?07:58
ryoohkii think it's probably due to there being more than vmlinuz in there also my root .bash_history was wiped out07:58
bradd_what's on the other hdd?07:58
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cilynxbradd_: yeah, what's on the hard drive that you can't access.  What filesystem and such07:58
ryoohkiprobably not the official repos - have to check07:58
bradd_I think... another OS... it's another Ubuntu07:58
ryoohkiit was a new 2.6.12-10-powerpc07:59
schmirgodoes anone have ubuntu running un an ibook with internal airport(not airport extreme) and wpa? i have some probs with wpasupplicant07:59
bradd_same file system07:59
cilynxbradd_: hm...that should be easily automagically accessible...does it throw an error?07:59
bradd_nope07:59
bradd_I click enable and it doesn't to anything07:59
franticcan someone just tell me why there's an amd64 ubuntu, and whether or not i'd want to use it with my pentium d 920.. i want 64bit if at all possible do i not07:59
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cilynxbradd_: gotta love that.  is the drive you can't get to listed in your /etc/fstab?08:00
nate_bradd_, what disk util?08:00
bradd_the one that comes with Linux....08:00
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nate_cilynx, oooh, good idea, it probably relies on that to automount08:00
bradd_called "Disks"08:00
bradd_lol08:00
cilynxnate_: he's using the things under Admin in Gnome08:00
frank23frantic: you will get a bit better performance with amd64 version of ubuntu. You will also have to deal with flash/codecs/commercial software/etc problems08:00
frantichmm08:01
nate_cilynx, kk :D08:01
frank23frantic: I suggest the i386 ubuntu to everyone. unless you like tinkering08:01
bradd_could it be that one is an ata-150 and the other an ata-100?08:01
franticwhy is it labeled amd6408:01
franticok08:01
nate_bradd_, hrm, you'd think it would allow for that08:01
cilynxbradd_: shouldn't matter at all.  I'm guessing your fstab doesn't have an entry for the other drive and that's why you can't mount (access) it.08:01
bradd_and different speeds, cache and.... size08:01
chuckypfrank23, runnin 686 on my p408:01
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bradd_hmm08:02
franticseriously folks, i love ubuntu.  I could seriously use it all the time happily, except that i fancy myself a musician and i'd miss cubase08:02
bradd_what's a fstab?08:02
schmirgodoes anyone have some experience with airport wlan and wpa encryption?08:02
nate_bradd_, cat /etc/fstab and cat /etc/mtab and paste to pastebin08:02
Nembutalfrantic, have you tried Buzz? =)08:02
franticbuzz?08:02
frank23frantic: the amd64 version actually runs in 64 bit. the i386 version runs in 32bits. your processor can do both (I think, I don't know exactly which intel processors run 64bit code)08:02
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Nembutalbuzz works with wine perfectly08:02
Nembutalfrantic, www.buzzmachines.com08:02
Nembutalmight not be the best to you08:03
Nembutalbut I love it08:03
Nembutal:)08:03
Nembutalbut you are right08:03
cilynxbradd_: /etc/fstab is the list of your filesystems and where they are mounted.  do what nate said and we'll go from there08:03
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Nembutallinux misses the best music software08:03
NembutalI wish there would be more compatible software08:03
ryoohki-rw-r--r--  1 root root 18005526 Mar 13 02:06 linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc_2.6.12-10.30_powerpc.deb08:03
Chodded!bootsplash08:03
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chodded08:03
Madpilot!tell Nembutal about enter08:03
bradd_grr, h/o08:03
ryoohkiin /var/cache/apt/archive08:03
frantici'm aiming to get a nice soundcard supported by alsa in my next computer08:03
ChoddedIs there a guide to changing the bootsplash?08:04
franticif i can find a program that supports vst instruments and midi, i think it'd be possible to switch08:04
mtopfquit08:04
mtopfpeace08:04
eobanbcan anyone help me with xorg? i uninstalled all of the ubuntu-desktop packages and planned on replacing it all with xdm and fluxbox.  but for some reason i get to a text login on startup even though xdm is started by init.d.  can anyone help??08:05
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frank23Nembutal: frantic yeah linux still is missing specialised software.08:05
Slecxwith what option do I mount the floppy drive?08:05
cilynxfrantic: outdated, but: http://www.djcj.org/LAU/quicktoots/toots/vst-plugins/08:05
franticyou should have just installed fluxbox without removing anything.  gdm allows you to select fluxbox when you log in08:05
nate_eobanb, welcome back :D08:06
eobanbthanks..any idea about getting x working?08:06
eobanbif i do startx it brings up an error saying 'unable to start x session, no .xsession file found, aborting'08:07
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nate_frantic, he wants to get rid of the bulkiness of gdm and gnome.  hdd space is critical for him08:07
franticah ok08:07
jetscreamerGTroy: http://labs.anandtech.com/products.php?sfilter=32408:07
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franticanyway, in regard to specialised software, i have no doubt it'll come someday08:07
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Slecxhow do I mount the floppy08:07
eobanbx does start, though.08:07
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cilynxSlecx: "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt" or some such08:08
floppyearshow can I mount and unmount an usb thumbdrive in ubuntu ?08:08
nbjaymehello. is there a cross platform flash designer/development environment that works with ubuntu?08:08
frank23frantic: yeah, I agree. as long as linux increases in popularity, eventually the OS wont be ignored by commercial software vendors08:08
g0dchildI am getting this 'libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate' - so how do i find the correct name for the package?08:08
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nate_eobanb, i dunno, i don't have a .xsession file either08:08
cilynxfloppyears: if you have gnome-volume-manager installed, it should just work08:08
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eobanbmaybe i'll try installing gdm..08:08
nate_frank23, yeah, there needs to be the demand for it08:08
carnyhow do i get the latest kernel modules?08:08
Slecxokay, will a dd command automatically format the floppy when copying a new image there?08:09
floppyearscilynx: but I use kde :(08:09
cilynxg0dchild: libdvdcss2 is official illegal software for most people.  You might find the information in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples most valuable08:09
jetscreamerg0dchild: it's in that other repository... i forget the name...08:09
jetscreamer!easysource08:09
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:09
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jetscreamerbut many ppl know the name here08:09
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g0dchildah, ok then. :)08:10
jetscreamerSlecx: if the image you write is formatted :)08:10
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jetscreamerit will overwrite whatever is on the floppy and replace it with the image you have08:10
carny!kernel08:10
jetscreamerat a low level08:10
carny!ati08:11
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358908:11
cilynxfloppyears: um...KDE is totally not my forte... any other takers?     command line wise it's generally "mount /dev/sda /mnt" or "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" or some such08:11
carny!kernel-source08:11
ubotucarny: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:11
ge_gefnaa c mj_f?08:11
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floppyearscilynx: thanks08:11
frantici know noone who does not find vista repulsive08:11
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jetscreamerit's not done08:11
larrylol just installing vista to have a look funny enough08:11
carnycilynx how do i get the kernel source and so forth?08:11
jetscreamerah08:11
franticlinux has (apparently) reached the point where it's the most user friendly OS08:11
jetscreamer!w32codecs08:11
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:11
jetscreamersame place08:12
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liable!kernel-source is if you need to install the kernel source for your running kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)08:12
ubotuokay, liable08:12
g0dchildumm...is there anyone who can give me some thoughts on how to best update packages- problem is down here in the maldives, the download speed is about 10kbps max-08:12
volCOM_b0iHow can I set an application to skip the taskbar in Gnome?08:12
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ge_gefhelo everybody08:12
A10nhey guys08:12
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ChoddedAnyone know how to install new bootsplashes?08:12
jetscreamernot linux-headers ?08:12
cilynxcarny: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15  (or whatever version you want)08:12
g0dchildits not hard to see why most people wont switch or use open source even if it is benficial08:12
A10nwhen i try to do apt-get update i get a warning about packages that can't be authenticated.08:12
franticthe point is, i see microsoft losing some of it's share within a few years, and a good share of that is bound to go to linux, probably moreso os x though08:13
A10nWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!08:13
A10n  cpio discover1-data libdiscover1 discover1 hdparm jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2 liblircclient0 libsnmp-base nvidia-settings python2.4-osd libssl0.9.608:13
carnysays it cant find the pakage??08:13
nate_eobanb, hey08:13
eobanbnate_, what's up08:13
nate_eobanb, echo "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" > ~/.xsession08:13
A10nany advice? is my apt sources un trusted?08:13
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jetscreamerA10n: long as you trust the source, it's ok. you'll need a gpg key for the server to fix that08:13
nate_eobanb, then start it up08:13
cilynxg0dchild: do you updates overnight?  I have administered boxen that did slow updates every night due to bandwidth issues.08:14
jetscreamerA10n: but you can install the programs, it will work08:14
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A10nyes i know but don't know if i trust them. let me check my sources really quick08:14
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volCOM_b0iHow can I set an application to skip the taskbar in Gnome?08:14
nate_eobanb, you might need to kill any x servers that already started (killall -9 X)08:14
cilynxcarny: breezy may be 2.6.12, i'm not sure.  keep walking down versions till you get a hit08:14
frank23g0dchild: I don't know. I always wonder why, if a change to a package is small, you still have to download all of it again. I have a high speed connection  so it's ok but if you have a slow connection....08:15
nate_volCOM_b0i, skip it?08:15
A10ni had everything with ubuntu.com and one line that had debian08:15
volCOM_b0iNot show in the taskbar.08:15
eobanbnate_, hold on, i already started installing gdm again08:15
volCOM_b0iLike open a terminal, but not show on the taskbar08:15
zekafredoonate_ eobanb, you might need to kill any x servers that already started (08:15
g0dchildcilynx, - no i do it at daytime- i am trying to start up a small computer tuition class- nothing big- but am trying to use as much as edubuntu i can08:15
nate_volCOM_b0i, I've only been able to do it through specific applications08:15
A10njetscreamer, I guess having a line that said debian.com is a mistake huh?08:15
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zekafredoo who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach08:16
volCOM_b0iI want to put a terminal on my desktop background, any suggestions on terminals?08:16
jetscreamerA10n: ahhh....08:16
nate_volCOM_b0i, and we're talking gnome, which is, by the developer's own admission, less configurable08:16
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frank23zekafredoo: il y a #ubuntu-fr en francais08:16
g0dchildfrank23, - no, its not that I want the small changes updates- just more functionality corresponding alternatives for windows-based software-08:16
jetscreamerA10n: no don't mix debian and ubuntu sources08:16
A10nokay i thought it would be okay. I wonder whyi put it there in the first place...08:17
cilynxg0dchild: are you trying to demonstrate the update proces or are you just trying to get the updates done?  I believe the update manager has the option to download updates as they become available.  If you enable that, it will download in the background as it goes and not have to do it all at once.08:17
liable!no kernel-source is if you need to install the kernel source for your running kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r), more than likely though, all you need is to install the kernel headers for your running kernel. (if you need to compile a module) sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:17
ubotuokay, liable08:17
frank23g0dchild: there is already alot available but it takes time08:17
volCOM_b0iYes, i do it in KDE, but KDE hogs my resources, so trying to in gnome...08:17
A10njetscreamer, is there a way to check if i installed anythign from the debian repository?08:17
chuckypliable, or linux-headers-`uname -r`08:17
franticanyway, i gotta go to bed.  i don't know if you guys are affiliated with ubuntu in any official capacity... but y'all are doing a fantastic job either way08:17
franticgnight08:17
knoppixcilynx:  umount fails.  how do I unbusy a file system so I can fsck it, safely ?08:17
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zekafredooqui peut m aider.savoir comment on fait pour changer pyvoice savoir qui utilise gyach08:18
liablechuckyp: the way i typed it works too.08:18
A10nlooks like you guys put out a new kernel08:18
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nooneelseHi all08:19
cilynxknoppix: Make sure your current working directory is not on the filesystem that you need to unmount and umount should work.08:19
bradd_is there a way i can get my Nvidia setting up???08:19
g0dchildfrank23, - yeah, but there seems to be no better solution than this- atleast its going to be a one-off thingy08:19
nate_so anyone know of any docs that explain what is going on behind the scenes in the ubuntu install?08:19
nooneelseI'm trying to install sun-j2re1.5 but it says that theres no candidate to install08:19
frank23zekafredoo: va a #ubuntu-fr pour discuter en francais08:19
jetscreamerA10n: yes, but i don't know how exactly. (you don't know?) one way would be to comment out the debian line, use a front end like (gasp) dselect or aptitude synaptic and see what winds up 'orphaned'... that's not the exact term, but you can tell the orphan state when you see it.08:19
chuckypnate_, what are yout rying to do?08:19
jetscreamerthen just uninstall those08:19
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nate_bradd_, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html08:19
g0dchildonly problem is, once i copy the archives directory and apt settings from /etc to offline machines, some of them takes a lotta time to download- many packages could only be installed manually.08:19
chuckypnate_, you could do an expert install and then see for your self what it is doing.08:19
jetscreamerunless you did an upgrade :(08:19
g0dchild..i mean using dpkg-....most of the time, synaptic would try to download the gpg keys and all08:20
cilynxbradd_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:20
A10njetscreamer, okay :/ i think i messed around with installing flash for mozilla firefox but its not that big of a deal08:20
A10nthanks for all the help!08:20
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zekafredoo* nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) a rejoint #ubuntu08:20
nate_chuckyp, no, i mean what is actually going on, preseed directives being used at whatever points, virtual directories being used, etc08:20
A10ntime for bed, goodnight all08:20
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intelikeywhat is the command to set the users shell ?08:21
zekafredoo who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach08:21
knoppixcilynx  OK  I think knoppix has done a union with the root on the hard drive.  any suggestions ?08:21
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frank23g0dchild: are you downloading the packages once and updating several machines?08:21
nate_chuckyp, i need to understand it to customize it for a specific use and to troubleshoot the inevitable breakage that will occur08:21
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cilynxg0dchild: do i understand your setup?  You have a low bandwidth internet connection.  You download updates to one machine.  You then copy the updates to the other machines to save band on your outside connection.08:22
zekafredoo who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach08:22
chuckypintelikey, what do you mean?08:22
cilynxg0dchild:  if that is the case, look into apt-proxy or my own solution of abusing your debcache over ssh: http://www.wolfteck.com/debcache/08:22
ge_gefhello08:22
nate_intelikey, usermod08:23
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nate_intelikey, man usermod08:23
volCOM_b0iAnyone know of any terminals that can Skip the taskbar in Gnome?08:23
intelikeynate_ can't man it i hosed man....08:23
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nate_intelikey, what's the path to the shell youw ant to use?08:23
zekafredoo who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach08:23
cilynxknoppix: i figure knoppix puts your real root system somewhere, I'm just not sure where08:23
frank23zekafredoo: tape  /join #ubuntu-fr  pour parler en francais08:23
chuckypintelikey, what do you want to do?  just change you shell?08:24
intelikey /bin/bash08:24
chuckypintelikey, you can cat /etc/shells for a list08:24
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knoppixcilynx thanks.  I' goo poke around.08:24
nate_intelikey, usermod -s /bin/bash username08:24
intelikeyk thanks nate_08:24
g0dchildfrank23, - yeah, i have some friends at a local ISP- so I use their network to download the archives to a PC on which ubuntu is installed- next, i take 'em back home and try to install those packages on all the machines there.08:24
nate_intelikey, np08:24
cilynxknoppix: "df" is your friend08:24
heatxsink_anyone in here have problems getting their iPod to mount proper over Firewire?08:25
nate_g0dchild, ummm, so you want to set up your own local mirror then?08:25
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eobanbheatxsink, i've been able to do it.  try just having it plugged in when you're starting up.08:25
jetscreamerg0dchild: you could just d/l a dvd and use it for a source.. even network it out08:25
eobanband it should get added to your /etc/fstab08:25
eobanband then automount08:26
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Nunquam_FidelisIs there a way to watch an ongoing process (right now, I am doing dist-upgrade on Breezy) in one terminal from another?08:26
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nate_eobanb, any luck on the .xsession or whatever?08:26
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cilynxNunquam_Fidelis: You want to see the same thing on both terminals?08:27
nate_Nunquam_Fidelis, best way is to use 'screen'08:27
ufowhy the sudo thing its even unsecure thing08:27
nate_Nunquam_Fidelis, then you can re-attach the screen to see the progress then detatch it08:27
eobanbnate_, apt-get installing gdm seemed to do the trick.08:27
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g0dchildnate_, I suppose. would be more efficient- so where do I have to read up on setting up a local mirror that'll serve packages to the hosts on a LAN?08:27
Nunquam_Fideliscilynx: I started the process on the desktop, but want to watch it on my laptop via SSH.08:27
chuckyp!rar08:27
ubotuit has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression08:27
nate_eobanb, ooh, good :)08:27
ufohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/3460608:27
eobanbnate_, it leaves me with a few gnome libraries, but ehh08:27
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eobanbi dont care TOO much.08:27
cilynxNunquam_Fidelis: as nate said, the "screen" program is the way to go08:28
eobanbit's only like 8 MB of gnome stuff (compared to like 150 before)08:28
nate_g0dchild, check out wiki.ubuntu.com08:28
nmsahello08:28
nate_Nunquam_Fidelis, I've used screen extensively in gentoo with emerge, which may take days depending on the machine, so i can check the progress08:28
ge_gefhi08:28
heatxsinkeobanb:  thanks08:28
nate_eobanb, good to hear :D08:28
ge_gefhows life08:29
nmsaI need to use pptp, but I can't find out a way to config the vpn08:29
cilynxg0dchild: it may be simpler to simply reuse your debcache instead of doing a real mirror08:29
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eobanbnmsa, you might try using the IU USSG's script08:30
hacker_  - .08:30
eobanbhttp://www.ussg.iu.edu/index4676.html?option=displaypage&Itemid=82&op=page&SubMenu=08:30
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Nunquam_Fidelisnate_: Ok, so how do I use screen via SSH?08:30
eobanb!ru08:30
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help08:30
Hmmmmhi anyone use remind?08:30
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nmsaeobanb: ok, where can I find it ?08:30
nate_Nunquam_Fidelis, read the man page on screen first, then come back and ask, it explains most of it.  if you have questions about the man page, i can help08:31
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nate_g0dchild, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78801.html08:31
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cilynxNunquam_Fidelis: quick and dirty -- on the desktop, before running the command you want to later watch, run "screen".  You will get dropped back to a terminal where you can run whatever.  On your laptop, log into the desktop and run "screen -dr".  This will detach the screen from the desktop and reattach to your current ssh session08:31
nmsaeobanb: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/ 'thnx I'll take a look08:31
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nate_g0dchild, I think basically you'll want the debmirror program08:31
cilynxNunquam_Fidelis: there are a lot more neat features to "screen", but that should get you started08:32
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intelikeyufo  hehhe yeah but look how much safer it is to use a default setup of sudo than setting a root passwd08:32
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Auckland_Pigi need help with Vino or VNC can any one help please08:32
Auckland_Pigubotu tell me about vino08:32
Auckland_Pigubotu tell me about vnc08:32
nate_!vnc08:32
ubotuI guess vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html08:32
g0dchildnate, thanks. am looking it up.08:32
Auckland_Pigthanks nate08:33
nate_g0dchild, kk :D08:33
nate_Auckland_Pig, np08:33
ge_gefhello08:34
Nunquam_Fideliscilynx and nate_ , thank you both for the help.08:34
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cilynxNunquam_Fidelis: np08:34
nate_g0dchild, I plan on using that for a project soon, so if you need help with it later this week, i'd be glad to help08:34
heatxsinkeobanb:  that rebooting thing didn't work08:34
heatxsinkdoh08:34
nate_Nunquam_Fidelis, come back if you need help08:34
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nate_heatxsink, what device in /dev handles firewire?08:35
intelikeyE: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code08:35
elkbuntuhow long till meetings now, seveas?08:35
heatxsinknate_:  no idea08:35
heatxsinknate_:  how could I figure that out?08:35
Seveaselkbuntu, 1h25m08:35
nate_heatxsink, no idea to tell you the truth08:35
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nate_intelikey, is apt or dpkg being used by another program?08:36
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Frogzoonate_: /dev/sdX apparently - emulates scsi08:36
Auckland_Piganyone here using vncviewer to a vncserver thats behind a firewall?08:36
nate_Frogzoo, thanks08:36
nate_heatxsink, dmesg | grep /dev/sd08:37
intelikeynate_ it was apt but i got it.    thanks anyway.   and no need explaining that one. you'll never see it again from the same cause.08:37
heatxsinknate_:  nothing08:37
heatxsinknate_:  any idea on the module name for scsi?08:37
nate_heatxsink, unplug your ipod08:37
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nate_heatxsink, then plug it in08:38
heatxsinkunpluged08:38
OmegaAlpha!pastebin08:38
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)08:38
heatxsinkpluged in08:38
nate_then dmesg | tail08:38
nate_then paste that in pastebin08:38
intelikeyit seems that /bin/sh can not be a shell warper  or apt wont work.08:38
nate_intelikey, ?08:38
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nate_intelikey, /bin/sh is the shellscript interpreter, right?08:39
intelikeyno it's a symlink08:39
intelikeyto bash08:39
nate_to /bin/bash??08:39
nate_ahh08:39
nate_and it doesn't like the symlink08:39
nate_see, learn something new every day08:39
solid_liqanyone know of an app I can use to fill in a form that's in pdf format?08:39
intelikeybut if you make it a shell script that starts bash apt will fail.08:39
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heatxsink_nate_:  http://pastebin.ca/4559908:40
nate_intelikey, ha08:40
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intelikeynate_ actually it likes the symlink, doesn't like a script.08:40
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mcquaidhello all, my gf4 card just died, and i had to resort to my old 3dfx voodoo308:41
jacksonjust installed ubuntu with default setup. How do l get or set the root password.08:41
nate_heatxsink, nothing in dmesg reflects that you plugged something into the firewire port, that would definitely be cause for concern.08:41
intelikeyalso man fails, if /bin/sh is a shell warper.  that fixed man too.08:41
Frogzoo!tell jackson about sudo08:42
mcquaidit seems to work so far except opengl mode. glxgears launches and it spins a few times then halts08:42
_0331_USMCAnyone know when something will come out for the new intel-based mac's?  I just got a new intel dual-core mac mini :)08:42
nate_heatxsink, has your firewire port ever worked before?  because I would suspect your hardware wasn't detected and configured properly08:42
heatxsinknate_:  any ideas one how I can get to that point?08:42
mcquaidanyone know much about 3dfx cards in xorg?08:42
Frogzoonate_: heatxsink: the fw is there: ohci1394: fw-host0: Waking dma ctx=0 ... processing is probably too slow08:43
heatxsinknate_:  my firewire port worked back in Hoary08:43
Frogzoo1394 is firewire...08:43
heatxsinkhasn't since08:43
heatxsinknate_:  I have a Sound Blaster Audigy with a Firewire Port on it08:43
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ge_gefjoi08:43
nate_Frogzoo, ahhh, i was looking for an sd device08:43
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heatxsink_could it be that I don't have any of the scsi stuff loaded as a module?08:44
nate_heatxsink, it was detected properly, i'm sorry, i missed it08:44
mcquaidhow do i reconfigure xorg?08:44
heatxsink_nate_:  doh.....08:44
nate_heatxsink, i'm not familiar with troubleshooting much past this point08:44
heatxsink_nate_:  cool thanks for your help08:44
nate_mcquaid, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:44
nate_mcquaid, i think :D08:45
nate_heatxsink, np man08:45
nate_heatxsink, copy that line about being to slow and paste it into google08:45
heatxsinkcool08:45
MCskill-itso does anyone know the lastest about dapper being delayed?08:46
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Frogzoo!tell mcquaid about xorg08:46
MCskill-itIt sounded it was going to happen08:46
Lotus-6Hey, quick question if anyone can answer... I'm running ubuntu with GNOME, i was wondering if there were any way I could bind my Windows key to a command (want it to run a program whenever i hit it)08:46
Frogzoo!dapper08:46
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion08:46
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MCskill-itoh08:47
Frogzooheh - no release date I see O_o08:47
MCskill-itokay thanks08:47
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lcoreHow to change system clock time from UTC to local?08:47
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lcore* aka the win/linux time problem.08:48
squeaka1hello08:48
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MCskill-it!dapper08:48
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion08:48
nate_i heard they were considering a three-week delay08:49
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nate_but that was through some article off digg, so who knows08:49
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MCskill-ithmm08:49
nate_google it yet?08:49
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MCskill-itnope08:49
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intelikeylcore the cli way would be to set the clock and change the symlink  /etc/localtime  to point to utc  then update the system i guess.08:50
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Frogzoodelay on dapper is 6 weeks (proposed): http://lwn.net/Articles/175272/08:50
lcoreintelikey: so it has nothing to do with /etc/adjtime ?08:50
intelikeylcore iirc /etc/adjtime is for fixing drift  not timezone08:51
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intelikeybut you may be able to set it and do the same thing..... i don't see how without changing the symlink tho08:52
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BeleysBonjour08:54
nate_heatxsink, ha, i found the spot in the source that throws that error08:54
heatxsinknate_:  NICE08:54
heatxsinknate_:  what is the error?08:54
nate_ohci1394: fw-host0: Waking dma ctx=0 ... processing is probably too slow08:54
nate_not sure why, to be honest08:55
nate_could be something in the kernel even08:55
Frogzoobeleys pour Ubuntu en Francais, allez #ubuntu-fr08:55
nate_i'd google ipod on breezy08:55
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lcoreintelikey: /etc/localtime is not s symbolic link it is a file. Can U redirect me to some man / web info?08:57
intelikeyit's a symlink here.08:57
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intelikeylcore there should be a dpkg-reconfigure <blah>   if you knew what the blah was08:58
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god#ubuntu-cn08:59
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linuxboyfriendhi all08:59
pvd2006I installed the required codecs to get all my files to work including video, audio, etc.. Then I installed the win32 to get some .wmv files to work and now my .mp3 files wont play anymore08:59
pvd2006win32_codec09:00
nate_heatxsink, another issue is that the error might have nothing to do with it not working09:00
linuxboyfriendi have many users in my system and i wanna allow all of them to connect to internet (wvdial) but i dont wanna share my root password, how can i enable them to dial?09:00
godhelp09:00
god:help09:00
heatxsinknate_:  hahahahah09:00
nate_make a group that can dial and add the users and the device to that group09:00
heatxsinknate_:  this is jjust pissing me off now09:01
heatxsinkseriously09:01
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: try groups dialout & dip09:01
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nate_heatxsink, have you tried installing some ipod software and looking for it in that?  in might not behave the same in breezy09:01
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: is this a command "groups dialout & dip"09:01
heatxsinknate_:  even worse I'm in dapper09:02
heatxsinkhaha09:02
nate_heatxsink, oh, well, that just introduces even more possible issues09:02
heatxsinkGREAT!09:02
heatxsinkI'll just forget about it then09:02
heatxsinklet it slide09:02
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nate_heatxsink, you have to be willing to accept that a lot of stuff isn't going to be working yet09:03
teoniliahallo09:03
heatxsinknate_:  well i got almost everything working :-)09:03
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: can you tell me that what will be my syntax of command?09:03
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heatxsinknate_:  but I understand09:03
nate_heatxsink, although the developers may appreciate you telling them about this09:03
heatxsinknate_:  this is acting the same stinking way it was acting when I was on breezy09:03
heatxsinki will09:03
teoniliahi wotyu name09:03
teoniliaiem deutach09:04
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dispanserlinuxboyfriend: I believe he wants you to add every user to the "dialout" group09:04
dispansertry system -> administration -> users and groups09:04
linuxboyfrienddispanser: lemme check09:05
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: 'sudo usermod -Gdip,dialout USERNAME'09:05
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Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: or just 'sudo vi /etc/group'   ...09:06
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nmsaeobanb: fyi: http://quozl.us.netrek.org/ anyway I can't start my vpn connection, it looks after a ppp0 which I don't have09:06
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linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: ok, done, thanks a lot09:08
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Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: let me know if it works, pls09:08
intelikeywhy would /usr/share/man/man8/ld.so.8.gz  be executable ?  that makes no sense.....09:08
carnyhey where is the kernel config file on ubuntu 5.10??09:09
pvd2006ok I installed all the packages I needed to going by the ubuntu guide to installing codecs.  I had them all working then I installed the win32_codec to play certain .wmv files, no my mp3 files wont play09:09
pvd2006I tried to reinstall it, but it didnt work09:09
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: ok, i am going off line for 5 mins for that checking09:09
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carnyanyone?09:10
intelikeycarny did ya look in /boot ?09:10
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skratHi there. can anybody help with installation problem? I am installing 5.10 from DVD.. after installing base system, and rebooting, the installer says "Configuring installer" or "Preparing installation", I don't know exactly, it's just a first screen after system startup.. and top says that apt-get is eating 99.9% CPU09:11
carnyohh nice09:11
nate_skrat, installing from DVD?09:12
skratbut nothing happen then, do I need internet connection to install ubuntu from DVD?09:12
intelikeybeen one there on every default linux i've ever messed with.  carny  :)09:12
skratnate_: yeah, from DVD09:12
nate_skrat, what are your system specs?09:12
heatxsink_nate_:  I modprobed sg09:12
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heatxsink_nate_:  and now when I unplug then plugin my ipod I get a SCSI subsystem initialized09:13
skratnate_: i686 (Centrino 1,4 GHz), 256 MB RAM, 60 GB HD, 6 GB linux partition, it's a notebook..09:13
aroticozPlaying avi and other video files ? Codecs? Where do I get them? Thanks in advance09:13
Frogzoo!restricted09:13
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:13
intelikeyaroticoz also see vlc09:13
intelikey!vlc09:13
ubotufrom memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)09:13
aroticozthanks09:14
nate_heatxsink, sweeeeet09:14
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carnythanx mate09:14
carnyhey a program im trying to install says it cant find it.. is there any default place programs usually look09:14
carnyor do i need to get the kernel source??09:14
nate_skrat, was just thinking that it could have memory issues with installing from a DVD, what with having so many more packages and whatnot, but not with your setup....so nvm09:14
pvd2006IF you do an apt-get install can it mess up previous packages you installed?09:15
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intelikeycarny you got b-e installed ?09:15
nate_pvd2006, how do you mean, mess up?09:15
intelikey!b-e09:15
ubotufrom memory, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.09:15
skratnate_: so? do you have any idea how to solve this?09:15
nate_skrat, no, sorry09:16
skratI just want the installer to continue09:16
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carnyits saying: the kernel modules did not compile and in the log its says its because it cant find the kernel config file09:16
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heatxsink_nate_:  now I modprobe'd sbp209:16
heatxsink_sitll no scsi devices09:16
nate_heatxsink, and the box exploded?09:16
heatxsink_nope09:16
heatxsink_not yet...09:16
pvd2006nate_: well you see I installed all the codecs I needed through the synaptic and I got all my movie and mp3 files to work then I installed a win_32codec to play certain .wmv files and now I cant play any mp3 files.09:16
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heatxsink_still didn't mount the thing09:16
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skratnate_: or any suggestion where can I found help?09:16
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intelikeykernel headers installed ?    kernel source ?   carny that error you give, not knowing what you are messing with doesn't tell me much ?09:17
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pvd2006I followed the ubuntu guide to install the codecs09:17
nate_heatxsink, it may be that firewire scanning software is underdeveloped, as one of the results of searching your error indicated.  I didn't look to see how old it was.  You should hit up the developers though09:17
nate_skrat, google?09:17
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servjewhello, i would like to send two different outputs to two video cards. one is agp, and is currently installed. the other is a PCI standard issue cirrus logig or something. specifically, id like to be able to send the Xorg output to the AGP and the console output to PCI video card. should i even be thinking about this kinda stuff ?09:18
heatxsink_nate_:  k09:18
nate_pvd2006, are you in the US?09:18
pvd2006nate_ yes09:18
nate_pvd2006, sorry, i don't support illegal activities09:18
carnyapparently09:18
chuckypservjew, hrm.. I dunno about splitting console output from x output09:18
pvd2006what are you talking about nate_?09:18
pvd2006illegal09:18
nate_pvd2006, but i'm sure someone else here will09:18
pvd2006what is illegal?09:19
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carnyhow do i install kernel source?09:19
nate_pvd2006, those win32codecs and mp3 codecs are illegal09:19
chuckypnate_, depends were he lives09:19
Nembutalillegal to copy09:19
Nembutalyou mean09:19
Nembutal?09:19
fekmoin09:19
nate_ha09:19
Nembutalor to use09:19
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Nembutalin the usa$09:19
squeaka2goobay09:19
nate_he is in the us09:19
nate_that's why i asked09:19
NembutalI don't believe a codec is illegal just by existing :)09:19
Lorentz`could someone explain to me how to edit global menu's in gnome2 on ubuntu breezy? we're trying out ubuntu to use on our desktop systems, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to edit menu's for all users. i remember SuSE and RH having something like applications-all-users:/// in nautilus, but i can't seem to find em in ubuntu09:19
blady??09:20
nate_well, i choose not to be involved, enough said09:20
Lorentz`so is there a way to edit menu's globally, or will it be hacking into xml files?09:20
NembutalLorentz`, alacarte editor09:20
intelikeycarny  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux   maybe  or search there...09:20
Lorentz`alacarte?09:20
Nembutaloh, for all users09:20
Lorentz`ok, great... let me see09:20
Lorentz`yeah, for all users :)09:20
pvd2006Hmm what is the program like winamp but for linux?09:20
Lorentz`xmms09:20
Lorentz`beep09:20
pvd2006thanks09:20
nate_Lorentz`, there is a /usr/share directory for adding files for all users09:20
servjewyeah, i was just thinking that its going to be an arduous if not impossible task. but as far as sticking a second video card in a free PCI slot, should i just try it and see what happens ? anything i should know ? or where should i be looking for info/help on WWW ?09:21
intelikeycarny synaptic should have a list of kernel/linux trees   or aptitude for that matter.09:21
FrogzooLorentz`: must be something under /etc/gnome09:21
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nate_let me find more info09:21
carnyok thanx :)09:21
bradd__hey, How do I put files on a disk???09:21
bradd__Like iso09:21
Lorentz`true, there is, but since some other distro' s had easy accessible menu's within nautilus through gnome-vfs, i was wondering if ubuntu had something like that09:21
Frogzoobradd__: k3b is very nice09:21
Lorentz`and since sometimes apps need to be added by people without any real knowledge of editing system files...09:21
Frogzoobradd__: but you can just right click & iso & select write to disk09:22
nate_Lorentz`, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id252249209:22
nate_Lorentz`, an example of adding it for all users09:22
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intelikeybradd__ gnome-backer ?09:22
bradd__I did, there is no ISO thing09:22
intelikeyxcdroast ?09:22
nate_Lorentz`, no app for it, but quite easy09:22
intelikeycdrecord ?09:22
Lorentz`aah09:22
Lorentz`ok09:22
MrDezis craigslist down for you folks?09:23
Lorentz`ehm09:23
ABCDI cannot get vncserver to work - I can get it to show the crosshatch pattern, but no actual GUI loads09:23
Lorentz`that's " How can I browse files and folders as root user in Nautilus  ?"09:23
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bradd__I got the 1st SUSE CD.... it came in a tar.gz09:23
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pvd2006there we go09:24
pvd2006I just have to use xmms for mp3s09:24
bradd__OH NEVER MIND09:24
pvd2006and the other ones for everything else09:24
pvd2006hehe09:24
nate_Lorentz`, it adds it into the menu09:24
Lorentz`ah ok :)09:24
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: hi09:24
Frogzoohow'd you do?09:24
Lorentz`sorry, didn't have coffee yet ;)09:24
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linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: yes, my other user is able to dial but he can not edit /etc/wvdial.conf09:25
nate_Lorentz`, under Application->System, hence the Categories=Application;System;09:25
Lorentz`true, true09:25
Lorentz`thanks :)09:25
zanthgood day, after having been away from my comp for a little while I booted it up and to my dismay, I can't get gnome nor kde to load, not sure why this happened at all it worked fine when I shut down09:25
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linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: adding the user in dialout didn't work, then i edited sudoers09:25
zanthI'm presently in failsafe mode09:25
nate_linuxboy, change the group rights to /etc/wvdial.conf to allow writing and change the group to whatever the dialer group is09:25
bradd__ok, so I go the .iso and opened it.... it came up in a new window... what do I do now?09:26
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: what's wvdial.conf ? (maybe just chgrp to dialout...)09:26
nate_zanth, install updates before shutdown?09:26
Frogzoobradd__: right click09:26
zanthoh09:26
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zanthyes I did do that :)09:26
bradd__on what?09:26
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nate_zanth, so it's likely one of them caused it09:26
Frogzoobradd__: on the iso09:26
ABCDI cannot get vncserver to work - I can get it to show the crosshatch pattern, but no actual GUI loads09:26
intelikeyzanth rm /home/<user>/.*auth*    then reboot.09:26
nate_zanth, but in the meantime look at the X logs to see why it isn't starting09:27
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: i am using wvdial to dialout09:27
bradd__OH09:27
bradd__thanks09:27
bradd__I was doing it wrong09:27
nate_zanth, or do what intelikey said09:27
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: do you mean that primary group should be dialout?09:27
ndlovuI want to use hdparm to streamline my system, any ideas how to figure out what are the correct settings to pass for my hard drive?09:27
zanthintelikey I will give that a shot09:27
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zanthnate I'll do that09:27
nate_ndlovu, if you find out, tell me09:27
ndlovunate_ will do09:27
zanthI'll check it out before I kill the file09:27
LS|-away-why does "sudo nautilus" work but "gksudo nautilus" did not?09:28
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nate_ndlovu, only way i figured it out was by changing settings and running: hdparm -tT09:28
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: no, not necessary at all09:28
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nate_ndlovu, and just keeping whichever ones were fastest09:28
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linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: my other user is not able to edit /etc/wvdial.conf, this file stores the username and password and dialup number09:28
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zanthbrb09:29
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: why does anyone else need to edit wvdial.conf - just set & forget09:29
intelikeyLS|-away- "sudo nautilus" will hose your .Xauthority file and you'll be like zanth looking for a way to get x to start without failsafe mode....09:29
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btnHas anyone here installed MuPad 3.2 succesfuly?09:29
ndlovunate_, thanks for the suggestion... I'm hoping I can find out more directly, but it is a good backup strategy09:29
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: because here in my country there is a card system and everyone has his own card to use user and password and dialup09:29
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nate_ndlovu, might want to check out sourceforge or freshmeat, this sounds like a common request09:30
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Zanththat worked :)09:30
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: user specific settings can go in ~/.wvdialrc09:30
Zanthso what is the .*auth* file and what does it do?09:30
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ndlovuthanks nate_ I'm trolling through the ubuntuforums at the moment but still no direct answers09:31
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: there is no file with this name09:31
purpleide1does some know how to "apt-cdrom add" an ubuntu .iso image that i downloaded (eg: flight 5) without burning it to a real disk. i tried mounting it with -o loop and i'm not sure how to get apt-cdrom to pick that up.09:31
btnI installed MuPad 3.2 with dpkg -i "xyz" and that worked, but if I run the command mupad i get a lib error..09:31
nate_ndlovu, just turned up this in the repos: blktool09:31
ManticeHow come when I click System --> then About Ubuntu it says  Cannot launch entry09:31
ManticeDetails: Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory)09:31
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: not yet there isn't but wvdial looks for it09:31
nate_ndlovu, not as specific as hdparm and might offer some better config tools09:31
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: wait09:31
intelikeyFrogzoo and linuxboyfriend maybe let each user run  wvdialconf .wvdialrc  thus setting up the local user .wvdialrc so they can all have custom settings and privet info...09:31
Frogzoointelikey: I agree09:32
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nate_purpleide1, try file:///path/to/iso/mount09:32
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nate_purpleide1, in the sources.list09:32
Zanthintelikey: what is the *auth* file that I deleted?09:33
Bmoneyhow can I make xbindkeys start automaticly?09:33
intelikeycould even make a master copy with the personal info as "#put your info here"   and put it in /etc/skel/09:33
Bmoneywhen Linux boots09:33
GnarusLeoDo you  have like daemon tools for linux? So I can mount an .iso so it will appear as a cdrom?09:33
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: intelikey: should i give write permission of wvdial.conf to my other user09:33
intelikeyZanth two of them probably  .Xauthority  and .Iceauthority    lock files of a sort zanth.09:34
ABCDnevermind...09:34
purpleide1nate_: so:09:34
purpleide1in sources.list:09:34
purpleide1deb file:[/home/name/file.iso]  ?? or what?09:34
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Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: no - as intelikey suggests 'chgrp dialout /usr/bin/wvdialconf'09:34
Zanthintelikey: thanks09:34
nate_purpleide1, no09:34
intelikeyyoure welcome.09:35
Chodder!xfishtank09:35
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chodder09:35
Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: scratch that - not necessary09:35
nate_purpleide1, deb file:///path/to/iso/mount/ breezy main restricted09:35
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Frogzoolinuxboyfriend: just 'wvdialconf ~/.wvdialrc'  should do09:35
nate_purpleide1, why even use the cdrom anyways, do you have constant network access?09:35
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intelikey<linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: intelikey: should i give write permission of wvdial.conf to my other user <--- could remove it if you are letting them make their own  .wvdialrc files.09:36
pvd2006whats the best package to use to run windows programs through linux?09:36
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GigaClonwine09:36
nate_pvd2006, best free one is wine09:36
nate_pvd2006, but there are arguably better ones that cost $$$09:36
pvd2006like VMware?09:36
purpleide1nate_: but that has to be a mounted dir from a mount -o loop right? i can't just plug a pointer to a .iso file?09:36
purpleide1i do, but for the flight5 files i was having trouble finding a correct repo that has them09:36
nate_pvd2006, that and CrossOverOffice and Cedega09:37
purpleide1unless you have a suggestion for that which is appreciated09:37
Frogzoointelikey: you need wvdial.conf to set modem initialisation, leave dial strings to .wvdialrc09:37
nate_purpleide1, correct09:37
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: intelikey plz give me some time09:37
btnI can't find scilab with an apt-cache search yet it is supposedly in multiverse, any reason?09:37
intelikeylinuxboyfriend i use wvdial.   and i don't have a global config at all.   only the local .wvdialrc.09:37
linuxboyfriendFrogzoo: intelikey beb09:37
nate_purpleide1, i just know that i comment out my cdrom and haven't needed to use the cdrom yet.  what is flight5?09:37
intelikeyFrogzoo see above ^09:37
linuxboyfriendbrb09:37
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purpleide1nate_: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight509:38
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fla|office?09:39
nate_purpleide1, ahh, i'm sorry i have only used up to breezy09:39
ABCDhow can I get vncserver to actually start gnome - it doesn't appear to be working, currently09:40
NembutalABCD, just use vino ?09:40
intelikeyFrogzoo also the /etc/ppp/*secrets  files are removed here to add a bit of privicy09:40
nate_purpleide1, your only option i can see is to automount the iso on boot and have apt point to the mountpoint09:40
NembutalABCD, vino is the vncserver for gnome$09:40
ABCDah, ok09:40
purpleide1nate_: no worries, i've been going with dapper, because i've got new new hardware, and it's a laptop on top of it. needed something newer. pretty stable so far09:40
Nembutalit's in Preferences/remote desktop09:40
GnarusLeoDo you  have like daemon tools for linux? So I can mount an .iso so it will appear as a cdrom?09:40
NembutalI mean, Gnome-Menu->System->Preferences-> Remote Desktop09:40
Nembutalor something alike09:41
nate_purpleide1, you might need to point apt to a directory within the iso, btw09:41
NembutalGnarusLeo, you can mount the iso09:41
Nembutalwith mount09:41
Nembutalit can handle iso9660 files09:41
GnarusLeoNembutal, or really? How do I?09:41
intelikeymount -o loop file.iso mountpoint09:41
Nembutalyep09:41
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GnarusLeointelikey, sweet, thanks alot09:41
ABCDNembutal: I'm working on a "machine" that has no display driver - ergo, no gdm - how do I get to it from the command line?09:41
nate_mount -o loop -t iso9660 <source iso> <target dir>09:41
NembutalABCD, oh09:42
nate_or leave off the t if it will take it09:42
NembutalABCD, you want a vnc to a commandlien?09:42
purpleide1nate_: yup, hang on a sec, just seeing if the file: directive works09:42
Nembutalmh, is that even possible?09:42
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intelikey-t is not needed for iso9660   but not a bad idea.09:42
Nembutalyep09:42
Nembutalit will recognize it automatically09:42
Nembutalusually09:42
mcquaidhello, my gf4 card died and i have to use this old voodoo3 for the time being09:42
nate_purpleide1, i'd be surprised if it didn't09:42
mcquaidit's working except for opengl09:42
mcquaidi installed libglide3 and ran ldconfig but not sure if it's still using libglide2 which was already installed09:43
mcquaidglxgears runs for a couple of secs and then seems to lock09:43
ABCDno, I have ubuntu-desktop installed, but I don't have a display driver on that machine - I want to use VNC to get a display phyically on this machine, but logically on that one, if that makes sence09:43
mcquaidand glxinfo states i don't have hardware accel09:43
intelikeytightvnc to console..... not ssh ?09:43
intelikeyoh yeah....  sorry.... i caught up now.09:44
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aside?09:44
asidefirst try:)09:45
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ABCDI just need to be able to start a VNC server (that works) from the command line - the VNC client is on another "machine"09:46
intelikeyi think i'll uncover a box and pull the hd out of it.......09:46
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FlannelKingintelikey: just rip it out!09:46
intelikey:)09:46
FlannelKingthe still beating HD, ripped out of the case, with your bare hands.09:46
asidewow09:47
FlannelKingthen you could eat it!09:47
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intelikeymy teeth are not that good.09:47
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FlannelKingdentures are the answer.09:47
asidemine is ok09:47
asidehah09:47
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Frogzoois it possible to proxy gaim through the corporate firewall via http if port 6667 is blocked? is proxying irc via port 80 possible, for instance?09:47
Frogzoointelikey: stay away from aerated drinks09:48
purpleide1nate_: the flight cd is mounted at /mnt/iso and i put deb file:/mnt/iso/ dapper main restricted09:48
purpleide1in sources.list... currently not sure it's working, still playing around09:48
intelikeyaerated ?    carbonated ?09:48
Frogzoointelikey: the same09:49
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intelikeyok will do09:49
Frogzoolol09:49
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nate_purpleide1, file:///09:50
nate_purpleide1, not file:/09:50
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Zanthhow difficult is it to change the overall look of the desktop when running gnome?  I guess, how do I install a theme?09:50
nate_purpleide1, it's file://, like http://, then /mnt/iso, making it file:///mnt/iso09:51
nate_Zanth, download the tarball and install it from the theme manager09:51
nate_Zanth, check out www.gnome-look.org09:51
ABCDto ask my question again, how do I run a VNC server from a command line09:51
ABCD?09:51
Zanththanks nate09:51
intelikeyusing the local ip  file://09:51
Zanthdo I look for the GDM themes?09:51
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lolziaci got a problem installing gnome, or when i do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i get the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1020709:52
Zanthor gtk2.x?09:52
nate_Zanth, ummm, i think it's listed on the left09:52
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nate_Zanth, on that site09:52
purpleide1nate_: i don't know if that changed it... it says something in man sources.list but it's not working 100% (scroll to the file: example)09:52
lolziacits not only gnome, i cant install kynaptic or synaptic09:52
intelikeyyou can browse your system in ff  or  lynx  or w3b   with file://09:52
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nate_purpleide1, did you try file://?09:53
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trucmuchhello09:53
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nate_purpleide1, oh, right09:53
nate_purpleide1, you need to put /mnt/iso/pool i think09:53
purpleide1nate: pool?09:54
nate_purpleide1, it's the directory all the packages are in on the cd09:54
purpleide1oh yes, i see. really pool. i'll try09:54
nate_so literally: file:///mnt/iso/pool/09:54
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Mmancan anyone help me..i got a problem on how to share files from other computers in a network09:54
BmoneyI need to know that too09:55
nate_and it only takes main and restricted09:55
Mmancan anyone help me?09:55
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nate_Mman, never got it working or really cared to myself, srry09:55
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nate_purpleide1, wait, hmmm, maybe not pool, let me check something out09:56
BmoneyI have a Mac I want to share w/.... Im sharing an internet connection via ibook airport, then to Ethernet.... but I still can't set up a network09:56
purpleide1nate: i was trying with dists09:56
Bmoneyor share files09:56
purpleide1which has a good structure, but not picking it up really.09:56
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nate_purpleide1, no, not dists or pool actually09:57
Frogzoodapper discussion is starting -> #ubuntu-meeting for those interested09:57
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nate_purpleide1, the entry would be: deb file:///mnt/iso/ breezy main restricted09:57
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nate_errr09:57
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nate_dapper09:57
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marlunWhat file controls which partitions that should be mounted at start?09:58
nate_that is, if dapper has thos sections on their iso09:58
Frogzoomarlun: /etc/fstab09:58
marlunFrogzoo: thanks!09:58
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purpleide1nate_: that's what i've got exactly. (actually i tried it with file:/ but even file:/// and same thing... doesn't seem to pick it up. it says failed09:59
purpleide1:(09:59
tomarasdoes anyone use nagios with apan?09:59
trucmuchhello, does anybody have already installed fltk from sources under breezy ?09:59
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nate_purpleide1, hmmm, maybe it doesn't deal with a mounted iso well09:59
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nate_purpleide1, you might need to copy the repos to a directory on the file system then10:00
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purpleide1nate_: maybe you're right. i might have to copy hrm. doesn't seem to make sense.10:02
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nate_purpleide1, i don't know how mounting to loop behaves when interacting with programs10:02
nate_purpleide1, which i suspect is to blame for the weirdness10:03
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purpleide1well i'll give the copying a try... it says in the source.list man the file is for an NFS mounts or local mirrors or archives10:04
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nate_yeah, but I suspect mounting it to loop isn't the same as mounting normal file systems, but that there is a 'virtual10:05
aeolistanybody know how i can rip a vcd?10:05
nate_'virtual' aspect to it10:05
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nate_lol, i feel like one of those guys who used to give me help all the time10:06
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jc-dentonwhat font is used in the ubuntu logo10:07
jc-denton?10:07
nate_you can find it in synaptic10:07
TylerWaltsIs there a good codec pack or player combo that I can get, (similar to the k-lite pack for windows w/ media player clasic) that will work for all kinds of the random avi, mpg, divx, etc ?10:07
nate_ttf-ubuntu-title10:07
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jc-dentonah they have an extra font10:08
slindsayKernel compiling question for you guys:  I want to make some modifications to snd_nm256 module.  How do I compile *just* that module?  I have the full kernel source, but I'd prefer not to compile all of it.  Is there makefile target that will do that?10:08
KakiPukulxine... TylerWalts, xine + gxine10:08
TylerWaltssweet, thanks10:08
GigaClonTylerWalts, w32codecs10:08
jc-dentonnate_: thx10:08
nate_slindsay, not that i know of, sorry10:08
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jc-dentoni'm also looking for a good ubuntu artwork site10:09
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MistaEDhey just wondering with dapper drake, will there be a really good frontend/program for xorg configuration?10:10
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jock09!restricted10:10
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats10:10
nate_!FreeFormats10:11
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats10:11
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intelikeyMistaED if by good frontend  you mean gui,  no.  how can you configure x from within x  cause most people needing to config x cant get x to start.....10:11
nate_jc-denton, lots of ubuntu art can be found among the other backgrounds on gnome-look.org10:12
KakiPukulMistaED, like the one in Fedore Core?10:12
intelikeybut there will be good apps.10:12
jock09dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a gui tool10:12
intelikeydpkg is not a gui tool....10:12
MistaEDthat's where that utility would have a viable failsafe, although i was thinking upon the lines of configuring twinview/dual monitors efficiently without needing to edit xorg.conf to death10:12
aeolistjock09, it's not gui10:12
MistaEDlike SaX2 for instance or redhat's one10:12
KakiPukulyeah10:13
aeolistintelikey, let's kill him...10:13
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intelikeyyou hold him i'll kick him10:13
KakiPukulI would like that too, MistaED, missed some Fedora Core's features...10:13
molkko_ubotu: free formats quite ok. everybody: when buying consumer electronics e.g. "mp3" players remember to require support for those free formats. there are media players that support ogg10:13
farousMistaED: what card you have10:13
ubotumolkko_: that's too long10:13
aeolistokie10:13
jc-dentonnate_: k i'll check that10:13
jc-dentonthx again10:13
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MistaEDi personally don't have a problem editing xorg.conf, but it's just a good idea which i wanted to ask for dapper drake, as it will be maintained for 5 years10:14
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MistaEDfarous: an nvidia 6800GT10:14
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ubtnwbhi10:15
nate_i likey nvidia10:15
farousMistaED: ok good point though. Do not know how feasible a gui could be built for that. By the way on ati we have aticonfig which handle most of that10:15
ubtnwbhow can to know if i have xorg 7.0?10:15
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TylerWaltsWhat repository do I need to have to be able to install w32codecs?  I get this error message:  E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate10:15
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farousTylerWalts: there is a link on the forums do not think it is in repos10:16
KakiPukulSeveas repos... it's not the official repos10:16
KakiPukulthat's why i suggest xine-ui libxine gxine10:16
jock09!tell TylerWalts about restricted10:16
TylerWaltsI get the same error when trying to get xine also :(10:16
chuckypTylerWalts, The w32codecs aren't in the repos10:17
farous!tell TylerWalts about repos10:17
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intelikey!tell TylerWalts about restricted10:17
nate_don't support restricted formats, imo :/10:17
Chodderis ubotu not working?10:17
farousTylerWalts: you might need to enable some extra repos like universe and multiverse10:17
intelikeyjust didn't want to be out of suit10:17
KakiPukulTylerWalts, you need to enable "universe" section of your repos...10:17
TylerWaltsfarous, its working, thanks10:17
farousyw :)10:18
nate_there are not win32codecs or divx4linux in any official repositories10:18
KakiPukulfor example. TylerWalts10:18
nate_they are illegal in the US10:18
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KakiPukul"deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse"10:18
jock09they are not nate10:18
chuckypTylerWalts, you can use vlc10:18
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intelikey!tell TylerWalts about vlc10:18
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jock09win32codecs are not illegal if you have a valid windows copy10:18
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intelikey!win32codecs10:19
ubotufrom memory, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/10:19
molkko_ref freeformats: when buying "mp3" players, remember to require ogg format support. such players are in the stores but somewhat more expensive :(10:19
psycho_oreosjock09: I couldn't imagine trying to fork out another ~$300 just for that purpose10:19
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ubtnwbhow i can to know which xorg version i have installed?10:19
jock09psycho most people have a valid windows license since they bought a preinstalled windows10:19
psycho_oreosjock09: ahh yes, that comes with the prebuilt computers heh.. That's mostly XP Home10:20
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TylerWaltsKakiPukul & all, thanks10:20
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KakiPukulI love my oneliner10:20
KakiPukulI don;t have any valid Windows license :)10:21
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psypher246can anyone pls help me with a mysql install on a server install. when trying to install mysql-server i get an error that I have to make a choice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. which one do I choose, why do I choose it and how do I choose it, there is no synaptic install or x. pls help quite urgent, thanks. nothing on forums bout this10:21
intelikeyubtnwb did you try  X -version10:21
TylerWaltsSoftware copyright should not last for 70 yrs, or even been around for that long10:21
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purpleide1nate: i think atm i'm givin up and poppin in a cd :(10:22
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KakiPukulwell... "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted since it first released10:22
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chuckyppsypher246, are you running breezy?10:22
KakiPukulthat's like more than 100 years10:22
psypher246yes10:22
chuckyppsypher246, well then apt-get install mysql-server-4.110:22
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Paul89hello everyone, can anyone tell me why my server keeps on setting himself back to his old ip while i told /etc/network/interfaces to use a fixed IP?10:23
ubtnwbintelikey, thx10:23
psypher246why?10:23
TylerWaltsKakiPukul, are you sure?  I believe "Happy Birthday" is in the public domain.  If not, who owns it?10:23
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chuckyppsypher246, that will install mysql 4.110:23
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poningruTylerWalts: time warner owns the lyrics10:23
psypher246why not the ubuntu one and for interest sake how do I choose that one10:23
KakiPukulTylerWalts, you can google for that...10:23
TylerWaltsDamn that sucks10:23
psypher246sorry I just don't get the diff between choosing ubuntu packages and the real ones, why are they there to confuse us?10:24
KakiPukulhehe... yeah Happy Birthyday is copyrighted... it sucks...10:24
chuckyppsypher246, I don't knwo what you are talking about wiht the ubuntu one but if you want ot see what is availible try apt-cache search mysql-server   and it will list availible options10:24
psycho_oreosKakiPukul: welcome to the capitalist/propriatory world10:24
ahFeelj#eoz10:24
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KakiPukulI am a capitalist myself... :)10:24
chuckyppsypher246, and if you want to see package info just apt-cache showpkg <packagename>  that should tell you the difference10:24
psypher246pakage mysql-server is a virtual package provided by:10:24
psypher246mysql-server10:25
psypher2464.110:25
KakiPukulbut i made money by allowing others to use my works :)10:25
cwilluPaul89: i.e., turning off dhcp?10:25
psypher246and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.110:25
nath...10:25
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Paul89cwillu: i can't do that, it's on someone else's network and that's a mixed network, some pc's rely on the dhcp10:25
psypher246chuckyp thanks I will try that10:25
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chuckyppsypher246, I dunno is it a security patch maybe?  I'm running dapper perhaps someone with breezy can apt-cache search and help you.10:26
cwilluno, I was asking if you turned it off in the config file :p10:26
GigaClonKakiPukul, how did you do that?10:26
intelikeyHappy Birthyday is copyrighted ?    so sue me.10:26
psypher246nath? your not called bish nath by any chance?10:26
KakiPukulcopyrighting and patents?10:26
purpleide1paul89: why do you need a static ip if you are on a dhcp configured network/10:26
Paul89cwillu: i have "iface eth0 inet static"10:26
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Paul89purpleide1: for internet forwarding10:26
cwillupurpleide1: all sorts of reasons10:26
nate_setup dhcp to hand out the same address :)10:26
TylerWaltsMaybe we can claim fair use for reasons of parody or vast public use10:26
KakiPukulI am very generous yet very giving, if you give me money :)10:26
cwilluPaul89: what does it say in system|admin|networking?10:26
cwilluI think it _might_ store that setting seperately10:27
Paul89cwillu: /system/admin/networking ?10:27
chuckyp7 minutes till xubuntu blows up my laptop10:27
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cwilluPaul89: System | Administration | Networking10:27
cwilluyes10:27
Paul89cwillu: i didn't install X, it's a p2 server10:27
cwillusorry, thought you were turning it into a filesystem path :p10:27
intelikeychuckyp you got it on a count down timer ?10:27
Paul89cwillu: i was :p10:28
cwilluokay, so the next question is how does that gui work in the command line world :p10:28
cwillulet me check something10:28
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Paul89cwillu: there's a config file: /etc/network/interfaces10:28
cwillucan you pastebin me your interfaces file?10:28
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farousPaul89: can you post your interfaces file10:28
Paul89er yes10:28
HusioHi10:28
farouslol cwillu beat me to it10:28
cwilluPaul89: yes, but obviously it's not the last word in this :)10:29
chuckypintelikey, apt has a estimated time left..... its downloading the packages now.10:29
Paul89i think i somehow set it up wrong10:29
KakiPukulcwillu, just run a terminal in any desktop environment... that's how10:29
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cwilluKakiPukul: what are you talking about?10:30
HusioI have a problem with cherrypy. I've install it by apt and everything goes fine until running script - the message was no such a module cherrypy... any ideas ?10:30
intelikeyoh it won't blow imediately chuckyp,  it will have to start installing crap first. then after about 2 minutes ........  POW !10:30
chuckypintelikey, lol10:30
chuckypintelikey, ands it dapper too extra boom10:30
Paul89uh.. where's the ubuntu pastebin? ^^;;10:30
cwilluKakiPukul: I know what a terminal is, I've got 4 of them active;  the question is whether the networking dialog in gnome does something other than edit the interfaces file10:30
cwillu!paste10:30
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.10:30
Paul89ty10:31
cwillunp :)10:31
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KakiPukulcwillu, oh, GUI tool for networking in GNOME10:31
cwilluI'm really not trying to be grumpy, it's just coming naturally today :)10:31
intelikeydid you      sudo tar -czf backup.tgz /etc      chuckyp10:31
KakiPukuljust point System->Adminstration->Networking10:31
cwilluKakiPukul: he doesn't have gnome installed :)10:31
Paul89http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1021210:31
Husiocome on... any help ?10:31
chuckypintelikey, nah fresh install of server from cd then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop dont' really care if it breaks10:32
cwilluthanks Paul8910:32
intelikeyk10:32
KakiPukulwell... or KDE, open control Panel and chck out for the Network control panel...10:32
cwilluno gui10:32
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cwilluhence the initial confusion about paths10:32
Paul89KakiPukul: just console10:32
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martyHusio, what exact ly is theerror10:33
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KakiPukulno gui... try ifconfig?10:33
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intelikeyPaul89 you don't have x ?     is that possable ?10:33
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cwilluintelikey: servers commonly don't have x10:33
Paul89intelikey: yes, type "server" when installing ubuntu10:33
marlunIs there a way to get only the calendar functionality of evolution? I don't want the rest.10:33
KakiPukulthat;s the father of all GNU/Linux networking configurator10:33
KakiPukulmarlun, evolution is a suite... it comes with all the features...10:33
intelikeyno body can breath without X    don't kid me.10:34
Paul89intelikey: personally i don't like X10:34
marlunKakiPukul: argh, ok10:34
cwilluPaul89: what's the mapping and script lines about?10:34
Paul89cwillu: i don't know, it was already in there10:35
cwilluor were they just there?10:35
cwilluhmm10:35
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cwillumine doesn't have 'em10:35
cwillu(static as well)10:35
KakiPukul"network-console-config" .... cwillu, the same package that you setup network with during install10:35
Paul89Paul89: i just changed iface eth0 inet dhcp to iface eth0 inet static and the load underneath that10:35
Paul89KakiPukul: hey that could help, i'll try it10:35
farousPaul89: the only difference from your config and mine is netmask is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.0.010:35
intelikeyPaul89 i installed xorg and links2  to view pictures that were sent to me.... i generally have no x either.   was being facious10:36
KakiPukulwell, you ask for no-gui right...10:36
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cwillustill nice to know what the file being changed is;  doesn't look like theres anything wrong with the interfaces file10:36
farousPaul89: and i disableled the hotplug mapping10:36
Lakinianyone know of a way to change the size/colour of the popup in Rythymbox at all?10:36
Paul89farous: i'm not too familiar with that, what is it?10:36
cwilluPaul89: probably those lines I was asking about :)10:37
farousPaul89: first correct your netmask10:37
cwillutry commenting the three of them10:37
intelikeyi remove hotplug and udev both.....10:37
farousPaul89: its the first time i seen it set it like you did10:37
cwillufarous: do you know that's not his netmask?10:37
cwillu255.255.0.0 is perfectly valid, almost certainly not the problem here10:37
cwillui.e., it won't break anything on a 192.168.0.0 network10:37
farousyou are most familia cwillu with it10:38
Paul89inet addr:172.19.3.3 Bcast:172.19.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.010:38
Paul89that's what's appointed by dhcp.. i think10:38
cwilluPaul89: your netmask is fine :)10:38
cwillucomment out the three lines (mapping, script and map) and see if it makes a difference for you10:38
Paul89ok :)10:38
Paul89ok, but won't it break anything?10:38
intelikeydefault netmask is 255.0.0.110:39
cwilluworst case, uncomment them10:39
cwilluifdown and ifup again10:39
cwilluintelikey: ?10:39
Paul89heh, worst case i can't get on it anymore because the server is 50 km away from me =p10:39
nate_restart networking even, /etc/init.d/networking restart10:39
cwilluahhhhh10:39
cwilluit comes into focus :)10:39
Paul89that's why i want to be sure10:39
nate_Paul89, wow, know what you're doing then10:39
Paul89because the guy hosting it isn't home atm10:39
farousPaul89: wait till you are there than10:40
cwilludo you have access to the dhcp server?10:40
cwillumight be safer to just tell it to statically assign the address10:40
Paul89unfortunatly not, it's the router and it's restricted to the lan subnet10:40
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Paul89but this guy has a mixed network and some laptops rely on dhcp so i can't just turn it off.. :(10:40
cwilluno10:40
cwillunot talking about turning it off :)10:41
cwillujust telling it that the server's mac address always gets that particular ip address10:41
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nate_static dhcp10:41
Paul89KakiPukul: that package, how er.. how do i use it? ^^;;10:41
intelikeyMask:255.255.255.255 seems to work also....10:41
cwilluexactly10:41
Paul89cwillu: i'm not sure how/if that's possible10:41
cwilluintelikey: what are you talking about?10:41
cwilluwhat type of router?10:41
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Paul89intelikey: dont think so -.-'10:41
rixthI installed expocity. Now metacity is fucked. I removed expocity and restarted X, it's still fucked. I have NO window borders.10:41
raphaHi all!10:41
Paul89cwillu: copperjet10:41
Paul89intelikey: with 255.255.255.255 it's not possible to assign ANY ip's >.>10:42
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intelikeyPaul89 that's what mine is right now.... hehhe10:42
cwilluif it's at all industry strength, (which it sounds like it is, not a home router) it should be able to, but you need to configure it10:42
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KakiPukulPaul89, checkout the file list...10:42
cwilluPaul89: that would actually just mean that absolutely everything is bounced off the default gateway10:42
Fudgiepoosrixth: metacity --replace &10:43
Paul89cwillu: there's a problem, because i can't get on it, and i had to explain the guy owning it to forward ports >.>10:43
cwillulol10:43
faroushmm would starting the dhcp assignment at a higher number than the one given to your static ip work?10:43
cwilluif it were me, I'd comment out the three lines, but I also like driving :)10:43
raphaHow can I get all the locale information installed in a Ubuntu system that was previously only set up as a server? I'm specifically missing the files under /usr/share/locale/*/LC_TIME10:43
mrtwister|mobilehello. have issue. installed Fc4/debian/ubuntu in saudi arabia. wget and apt-get not works. ping to hosts works. any suggest? aybe there some filters?10:43
martyPaul89, I missed the beginning of your prob - what are you trying to do? if you are concerned about when the DHCP lease will expire you can find it by " cat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases10:43
marty"10:43
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Paul89farous: worth a try10:43
m1chahey10:44
cwillufarous, the problem is that his server is being assigned by dhcp overriding his static settings (right?)10:44
cwillucareful Paul8910:44
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Paul89cwillu: i can't do it right now, i don't have access to the dhcp :P10:44
TylerWaltsmrtwister|mobile, can you ping google?  telnet 80 google.com?10:44
mrtwister|mobileyes10:44
cwillugood :)10:44
mrtwister|mobilei can10:44
Paul89marty: i'm trying to fix the IP of my server, but the thing won't listen to me10:44
kujaBah! Dapper has caused me massive troubles, grr. Should've just waited :(10:44
farouscwillu: this might be because the ip is already taken. Frankly i do not knwo why that happen10:44
cwillumight cease to have access to the server :p10:44
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cwilluPaul89: let me make sure I'm reading this right10:45
cwilluYou're trying to statically assign an address10:45
m1chai have a problem with the nvidia-glx driver. i messed around with the installer from nvidia and after that the "nvidia" driver i put in xorg.conf outputs "(EE) no devices found" how can i go revert the installer-mess ?10:45
Paul89farous: it's not taken, if i restart the network it takes .200 but after a while it switches back10:45
mrtwister|mobileroot@amajid:~# telnet 80 google.com10:45
TylerWaltsmrtwister|mobile, try lynx google.com ?10:45
Paul89cwillu: yes10:45
Paul89lol10:45
cwillubut the actual address (including the interfaces file itself?) gets set to a dhcp assigned address?10:45
mrtwister|mobileTylerWalts - not have lynx and links10:45
mrtwister|mobileserver install10:45
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cwilludoes it actually change the interfaces file, or is it just the active settings (ifconfig)?10:46
mrtwister|mobilebut ping work10:46
TylerWaltsmrtwister|mobile, do you have a ftp client working?10:46
mrtwister|mobilewget and apt-get dont10:46
martyso what does "cat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases10:46
marty" show?10:46
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Paul89cwillu: the interfaces file doesn't change, just active settings10:46
mrtwister|mobileftp work too10:46
Paul89cwillu: but it takes a while.. about 20 minutes last time i think10:46
martyPaul89, this will confirm who is the dhcp server and what the lease time is10:46
cwilluabout the time of a dhcp renew :/10:46
OmegaAlphasomeone know of a data recovery tool for a partition gone to a mess?10:46
cwillumarty, it's not supposed to be using dhcp at all10:47
mrtwister|mobileTylerWalts: you suggest to replace http:// to ftp:// in apt.conf?10:47
martyPaul89, your ubuntu box will try to renew the lease when it gets to half-way through the lease10:47
intelikeyrapha  only thing i have in any of those dirs is one symlink.... lrwxrwxrwx  1 0 0 27 Mar 13 03:36 coreutils.mo -> ../LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo10:47
cwillumarty, the interface file specifies static10:47
Paul89marty: it shouldn't be renewing no leases, it's supposed to be static10:47
TylerWaltsmrtwister|mobile, possibly, you could try that but I've never done it10:48
cwilluPaul89: the only thing stopping me from telling you to just comment out the lines is the fact that it's remote, but I'm quite sure that's the problem10:48
cwilluhow big of a deal is it if the server goes away until you can get to it?10:48
Paul89btw, cwillu, i'm looking at the interface file, at the mapping lines, but it just looks like the nic's are detected by hotplug, nothing more. but i could be wrong10:48
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cwillusee, mine doesn't have those lines, and the other guy said he commented them out10:49
raphaintelikey: same thing for me. The thing I'm ultimately trying to achieve is a working strftime() output in PHP (working == displaying the date in the right locale). And so far the only thing I can think of why this wouldn't work is the empty German locale dir...10:49
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Paul89cwillu: err.. not a really big deal, but i'd like to finish a vpn i'm setting up. but i guess it's worth a try10:49
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cwilluhotplug got the ability to handle those settings, it's not the device detection that your seeing there10:49
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Paul89cwillu: just comment them out and /etc/init.d/networking restart?10:49
Paul89cwillu: ok10:49
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cwilluoo!! vpn!  fun :)10:50
cwilluopenvpn?10:50
Paul89cwillu: yup ^^10:50
cwillusweeeet10:50
cwillugot 4 of those in production :)10:50
locomortoDoes anyone have a suggestion for a good font for use around KDE/GNOME?10:50
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martyPaul89, you should be able to stop the process that is doing the dhcp renew - at least until you get access to the box properly10:50
locomortoAs in, the main text body, title bar and so forth10:50
Paul89cwillu: i already got it set up on my home box, and it's working quite well now with ethernet tunneling10:50
KakiPukul"good" font. in what sense, locomorto ?10:50
farousso what does the  dhcdb do10:50
intelikeyrapha  you could  " sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)   "  if you think some of your installed packages are broken or have broken or missing files.   but that's probably over kill.10:50
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Rowerhttp://82.196.99.35/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi <-- Check that out..10:51
locomortoKakiPukul: Sorry about that, I meant easily readible for long periods of time, and worked well with hinting10:51
jquixoteI have a mouse problem with a Dell Latitude D810:  the pad is way slow, but the rubber pointer is the proper speed10:51
jquixotedapper here10:51
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Paul89wish me luck :P10:52
cwillugood luck!10:52
cwillu:)10:52
KakiPukulVirtual Richard M. Stallman (vrms) - I really like Mr. Stallman in my pc inspecting "non-free" packages10:52
farousPaul89: alli can say is that i had network-manager installed on my other pc and had the same problem you have now10:52
KakiPukullocomorto, checkout the cleartype fonts...10:52
farousdo you have it installed10:52
Paul89farous: what's network-manager ?10:52
x3onI've not been able to use my internal sd reader so I just plugged in a usb sd reader, how do I get ubuntu to see it?10:52
Paul89farous: i guess not then :p10:53
farousPaul89: if you do not know it you do not have it lol10:53
Rowerdo anyone know where the config file is for cgiirc10:53
Paul89yay, the network is still alive, and it's on the right IP right now10:53
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cwilluheh10:53
Paul89now it just has to -stay- on the right ip :P10:53
Paul89i uncommented the hotplug lines10:54
cwillu?10:54
farousPaul89: hopefully give it another 20 min lol10:54
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cwillucommented you mean10:54
Paul89yes commented10:54
cwilluscaring me here :)10:54
Paul89heh10:54
Paul89but the funny thing is, i asked a friend his interfaces file and i practically copied it but i just changed the ip/netmask/gateway10:55
Paul89and he set his box up for static ip in the setup10:55
cwillumight be another config file I don't know about10:55
farousPaul89: i found that having it commented or not did not make lot of difference here10:55
Paul89ok10:56
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Paul89but cwillu, you know a lot about openvpn ?10:57
cwillubeen using it a couple years10:57
cwillumostly bridged connections (easier on the windows clients)10:57
_Rappy_I want to run a command, on startup. Well, really after startup, when I'm logged inn, automatically. the command is just a single wordto run a program. How can I do this?10:57
Paul89bridged=ethernet tunnel?10:57
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cwilluno10:57
cwilluit's the other mode10:57
cwilluoops10:57
cwilluyes10:57
cwilluethernet as opposed to ip10:58
Paul89_Rappy_: so when you log in you want to run a command?10:58
cwilluit's the mode where even netbios and ipx traffic works :)10:58
OmegaAlphaanyone have poker3d-server setup on their box?10:58
Paul89_Rappy_: if you want that to happen on just a single account just edit .bashrc in your homedir10:58
_Rappy_Yes. Insted of opening the shell, and typing the command, I just want it to execute by it self10:58
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Paul89cwillu: that's ethernet tunnel10:58
Paul89cwillu: but i don't understand bridging10:59
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cwilluheh, it's bridged :p10:59
Paul89i set it up for me and a few friends so we could play lan-games over the vpn10:59
cwillutap vs tun10:59
Paul89i'm using tap, but not bridged10:59
cwilluyou sure?  :)11:00
Paul89no :p11:00
Paul89but i didn't deliberately bridge it or something11:00
_Rappy_Ok, but I've edited .bashrc for aliases, but I have no idea what to write for it to execute commands11:00
cwilluit's either routed or bridged11:00
KakiPukulbridging... it's like ICS or something?11:00
Paul89_Rappy_, it's just a shell script, i think :/11:01
KakiPukulor forwarding = 1 in /proc...11:01
cwillunot really;  openvpn running as a bridge means that the clients appear directly on the target lan;  the server isn't acting as a visible router11:01
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Paul89cwillu: well, then it's bridged11:01
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martyPaul89, Your config looks good11:01
martyPaul89, I think the problemis that dhclient3 is still running11:01
Paul89ok11:01
cwillunow, it can still be set to not actually talk to anything else (i.e., if you didn't bridge the tap device to the eth device)11:02
martyPaul89, I assume that you changed the config but doidn't restart networking?11:02
Paul89root 3558 0.0 0.7 2140 1012 ? S<s Mar11 0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth011:02
Paul89root 28866 0.0 0.4 1624 524 pts/3 S+ 11:02 0:00 grep dhclient311:02
Paul89marty: yes i did11:02
Paul89cwillu, ah like that11:02
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martywell from what I read of "interfaces" it looks for "dhcp" in the "iface" line and then starts dhclient311:03
Paul89but do you know if you can connect to openvpn with the windows built in vpn-client? i'm using openvpn gui right now but if the built in client would work too that'd be awesome11:03
Paul89marty: the iface has "static"11:03
cwilluPaul89:  nope11:03
Paul89i thought so11:03
cwilluthere's a windows openvpn build you use11:03
cwillumore secure and faster and easier to setup and all anyway :)11:04
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Paul89heh, that's true11:04
cwillubut they're completely different protocols11:04
Paul89i use openvpn GUI, it's plain openvpn but with a gui frontend11:04
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cwillureally, you haven't lived until you've tried to set up a ipsec/pptp vpn :)11:04
cwilluyep, same here11:04
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Paul89eh what's ipsec/pptp? >.>11:05
Poromenosmy ubuntu setup is displayed on the wrong screen (dual screens), how do i fix that?11:05
cwilluthe windows builtin vpn client, the same as basically every other vpn implementation11:05
Paul89marty: is it ok to just kill dhclient3 ?11:05
martyif you kill "dhclient3" at least it shouldn't renew the lease. i just did that on my laptop and if you receive this msg i still have IP working ;-)11:05
cwillubuggy and incompatible, etc11:05
cwillulol @ marty :)11:05
Paul89marty: ok ty11:05
Paul89will do11:05
Paul89cwillu: so openvpn is better?11:06
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martyyou can then manually change the IP (if you really have to) using just "ifconfig"11:06
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cwilluPaul89:  it should still work even with it running, but it must have gotten itself confused  (i'm running one device with dhcp and other static)11:06
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g0dchildhi, is there anything i should do to get a decent speed on bittorrent?11:06
Paul89marty: last time i changed it using ifconfig it didn't have a gateway anymore and i couldn't get on it..11:06
cwilluPaul89: simplicity is generally good for security;  openvpn is easy to understand end to end, and the networking config is just normal config stuff;  ipsec is extremely invasive11:07
inetihi does anybodyy know where how to activate automatic page numebering in openoffice 2.x?11:07
tarzeauineti: footer ?11:07
martyPaul89, sure you have to do it "atomically" - either in the one command or with one script11:07
cwilluheh, indeed11:07
g0dchild!azureus11:07
farousineti insert page number11:07
GigaClong0dchild, make sure your uploading is not capped11:07
Paul89cwillu: ok, i'll stick with openvpn then.. the hassle of creating certs is worth the effort ^^11:07
ubotuazureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo11:07
martyPaul89, one other thing you can add a second virtual interface with the new address11:08
martythat way you won't break the old one , but can use the new one11:08
Paul89marty: why would i want to do that?11:08
Paul89ah11:08
farousinsert>field>pagenumber11:08
psypher246hey all, still having trouble installing mysql-server on a vanilla install of breezy. changed repo's to allow main restricted universe multiverse backports, ran updates. when i try to install mysql-server I have to make a hcoice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. when i try mysql-server-4.1 i get dependency errors with regards to mysql client. what is wrong?11:08
cwillulet the dhcp client do its thing with an interface that doesn't matter :)11:08
inetifarous: nope that isn't the right thing11:08
Poromenoscan anyone help? :(11:08
Paul89sounds way too complicated.. if it does switch ip's that's just tough luck, port 22 on the old ip is still mapped to another port so i can get on it if it switches back11:09
martyPaul89, anyway I think you can probably live with what you have - until you can get someone in front of the console11:09
farousineti ?11:09
cwilluPoromenos: try back later;  just repeat the question and if somebody's familiar with it, they'll answer11:09
Poromenoscwillu: ah, thanks11:09
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martyPaul89, I know your fear - I have had whole networks (Cisco routers and firewalls) in my hands remotely - knowing that if i slip up I chop off my legs11:10
cwilluPoromenos: sorry I couldn't help :)11:10
Paul89marty: heh11:10
Poromenoscwillu: it's ok :) i just need the xorg.conf settings11:10
inetiinsert page number does this only for one page, but i want everythin automaticly numbered11:10
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CraiZEhi11:10
farousineti insert it in the footer11:10
psypher246hey all, still having trouble installing mysql-server on a vanilla install of breezy. changed repo's to allow main restricted universe multiverse backports, ran updates. when i try to install mysql-server I have to make a hcoice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. when i try mysql-server-4.1 i get dependency errors with regards to mysql client. what is wrong?11:10
KakiPukulupdates, updates... passwd, login have new security updates...11:10
CraiZEI wanted to install Ubuntu on my Promise Ultra TX 133 PCI IDE Card (a hdd on it), will i be able to do that?11:10
martyPaul89, CIsco has a nice feature - "reload 5", which means that if it doesn't hear from me it will restart in 5 minutes - that way you can change a config dynamically and knwo it will come back11:11
Poromenosmy ubuntu setup is displayed on the wrong screen (dual screens), how do i fix that?11:11
Paul89marty: that's pretty nice, that guy has a Cisco router. i'll ask him to set that up some time11:11
farousor the header ineti depend on where you want it11:11
KakiPukulpsypher246, please paste the errors the the pastebin, so we can learn about your problem better11:12
martyPaul89, you could do the same - do "shutdown -r +5" and then do some non-permanent tests, and then if you still have connection do "shutdown -c"  to cancel11:12
psypher246cool11:12
psypher246i forgot how do i get to the pastebin again11:12
cwillu!paste11:12
KakiPukul!pastebin11:12
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.11:12
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)11:12
martyPaul89, this is always useful if you are working remotely and can afford a reboot if you break it11:12
inetifarous: i already have footnotes, for the sources that are used11:12
farousineti the footer not footnotes11:13
Paul89marty: i still have to set up all the init-scripts on that box ~_~11:13
martyPaul89, of course the best option is "out of band" access with say a modem into the console11:13
farousinsert header or footer11:13
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inetifarous: if i enable footer it creates a news footnote placed under my current footnotes11:13
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inetithis doesn't look good and uses lot of space11:14
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martyPaul89, or if you have a nice shiny (insert the vendor I work for) server you would have remote lights out feature :-)11:14
Paul89lol :p11:14
farousineti it is not a footnote it is a footer end of page where you can put your page number. you can insert a header and put it ther if you like also11:14
Paul89it's just a hobby box11:15
djs_2_6Morning all.11:15
farousineti: though i think it should be the default template with openoffice was somehow dazzelled to see it is not there by default11:15
Paul89marty: we're using it for the team bitstorm (our LAN-party group) VPN, http development and playing with IRC bots11:15
djs_2_6Anyone know of any good apps to turn ripped dvds into avis or mpegs?11:15
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CraiZElol11:16
inetifarous: ok thx so far11:16
farousineti: make me certain now that it was good idea to switch to latex :)11:16
CraiZEanyone got a Radeon 9700 Pro running in ubuntu11:17
CraiZEwith hardware acceleration11:17
CraiZE?11:17
farousCraiZE: you know about the ati link and fglrx did you try that11:17
CraiZEnot yet11:17
intelikeyanybody good with fixing alsa ?11:17
KakiPukuldvdrip, djs_2_6, it's a frontend to transcode... have no idea about it... but try if you want to11:17
Paul89CraiZE: i use nvidia but i think i also saw something about ati binarydriver on the wiki11:17
CraiZEbut i remember not getting anything to work 2 years ago ;P11:17
farous!tell CraiZE about ati11:17
farousCraiZE: i have 9600 running fine here11:17
psypher246cwillu, KakiPukul, it's pasted under psypher246. thanks11:18
intelikeyi have like no sound11:18
djs_2_6KakiPukul - Does that work for already ripped dvd files?11:18
CraiZEthanks11:18
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Paul89oh yes, about the sound card, i have a weird problem, i can only use the sound card for the user i'm logged in on "physically"11:18
cwillusay wha?11:18
Paul89like, logged in on the box itself, not on ssh11:18
cwillu(say wha referring to the paste bin above :p)11:19
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Paul89lol11:19
farousintelikey: i used to play with it but am rusty now. Have been concentrating on real work for a while :)11:19
cwilluI think there's a group with sound access, anyone know?11:19
farousintelikey: so what is your problem state it first11:19
intelikeymodprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_011:19
intelikeymodprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_service_0_011:19
intelikeyaumix:  error opening mixer11:20
farousintelikey: are hyou running dapper11:20
Paul89i'm trying to install MPD on my home server, so i have music 24:7 :o11:20
intelikeyhoary11:20
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KakiPukultranscode is the backend... you need some encoders for that though, djs_2_611:20
farousthere is a good howto for hoary on the forums look it up11:20
intelikeyyep good for nothing....11:20
farouslet me check if i have the link for ti11:20
psypher246cwillu, with regards to mysql11:20
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farouslol so i guess you were there11:20
intelikeybeen there, there is not one thing about this kind of error.11:21
KakiPukulyes... it should works fine... even with ripped DVD's VOBs... djs_2_611:21
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intelikeyalso farous  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory11:21
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farousintelikey: have no idea sorry and have no brain now too lol11:22
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cwillupsypher246: I know next to nothing about mysql, but on a hunch I'd say try the ubuntu version of it11:23
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KakiPukulyou LAMPers11:23
Paul89psypher246: the mysql apt package didn't work really well for me, i compiled it from source without any problems11:23
Paul89what's the L for.. -.-'11:24
psypher246well thats not very impressive?? thats what apt there for. and thats not what the mythtv howto's say. no offence, I know how to compile, but why shoudl i this stuff is supposed to work11:25
Paul89cwillu: about ovpn, -if i'd manage to bridge the server's eth0 with tap0- how would it handle that? because my subnet here is 192.168.2.* and the vpn would be using 10.8.0.*11:25
intelikeyfarous you aint gonna believe this,   i had modprobed snd-ad1816a  fifty times on this thing.   but this time it took.... it seems that running the aumix  without the module loaded made the device node   then loading the driver worked.....     thanks anyway.11:25
intelikeyi've got sound now.11:25
cwilluwhen you bridge two or more devices, they end up sharing a single br device for ip's etc11:25
farousintelikey: you did all the work lol thank you for the information11:25
farousmight be helpful to add it to the forums11:26
farousa tip11:26
Paul89psypher246: well you don't have to, you can use apt just as well, just a matter of preferrence i guess. i'd like to have more control over it so i compiled mysql apache and php from source11:26
cwilluwhen the bridge is down, they use their configured ip's, etc, but when the bridge is up, the bridge config is used11:26
intelikeyi had fought with that off and on for 6 hours now.11:26
cwilluthe naming is a bit weird :/11:26
Paul89cwillu: and what is the bridge config? is that configured in ovpn or on the linux box ?11:26
Paul89on the linux box itself*11:27
intelikeyyeah well i guess someone might have an old isa sound card     like me.    but not likely farous11:27
cwilluI think I may have confused issues, it's really more of a tap vs tun implementation11:27
cwillutap can be used for bridged or routed, tun only for routed11:27
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Paul89yes, i know that11:27
cwilluthe tap device can be used like any other adapter in the system11:27
Paul89that's why i was having problems with icmp before.. i was using tun instead of tap -.-11:27
cwilluyep11:28
farousintelikey: it will never heart and it is already bloated lol :)11:28
Paul89tap is awesome :D11:28
farousa small tip will help a poor guy man11:28
cwilluheh :)11:28
cwilluit's also slightly less efficient :)11:28
psypher246paul89 so then whats the things trouble? how do i actually choose the ubuntu package, mysql-server-4.1 is easy but how do you instal the other one from command line?11:28
Paul89but what are the advantages of tun over tap then?11:28
Paul89oh11:28
cwillu<--  :)11:28
cwillubeat you to it :)11:28
psypher246btw tap give you bridgeing which allows upd braodcast to travel across vpns11:28
intelikeynow i have x and sound and everything  in ubuntu hoary    on a p1mmx 100 mhz    on a 610m hard drive, dual boot with win95       shoot.....  i'm bad....11:29
farouslike when i put a tip on firefox never thought it will give the thread five stars or trees lol11:29
cwillualthough if you're not using bridging, the difference is slight11:29
Paul89psypher246: install what other one? what i did was compile mysql 5.something from source, that's all i can say11:29
psypher246I use tap vpn's for lan games and browsing winsux networks11:29
MistaEDintelikey: what kind of x? xorg?11:29
farousintelikey: just curious why not use damnsmalllinux it is best suited for old pcs11:29
cwilluquestion:  what should the clients be able to access on the network?11:29
Paul89psypher246: i managed to browse win networks on tun aswell11:30
intelikeyfarous i'v got dsl also just not on this box.11:30
Paul89cwillu: every other client, and preferrably the server aswell11:30
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farousgreat this distro is amazing in every sence of the word11:30
cwilluand should things on the network be able to access the clients?11:30
psypher246tun vpn's are faster as far as I know cos braodcast packets do not go over it, but if you need tap for something specific then u need tap, otherwise tun is fine for most settings. note that setting tun to use udp does not allow braodcasts, only tap allows this11:31
intelikeyMistaED  yeah default hoary,  nothing special except the package list.  i could almost post it in here without getting kicked.11:31
MistaEDi'd like to road-test ubuntu with something like kdrive but keep gnome or kde in there, things like damn small linux or basic WM with nothing else are too flaky around the edges11:31
MistaEDand see what the ram requirements are11:31
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psypher246paul89 is i try install mysql-server i get this error11:31
Paul89cwillu: currently the vpn server is hosted on my own network, so i'd like to access the vpn without a client if possible11:31
psypher246;:11:31
cwillupsypher246: with the exception that if your not bridging them, then broadcasts aren't getting sent over it anyway11:31
psypher246Package mysql-server is a virtual package provided by:11:31
psypher246  mysql-server-4.1 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.111:31
intelikeyi over clocked the mobo so the 100 mhz is at 266 now.  it works pretty good.11:31
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psypher246how do i install the second package on that error11:32
Poromenosmy soundblaster 4 channel card's speaker sound is inverted (back to front), how do i fix that?11:32
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intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 109.11:32
intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 112.11:32
intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 112.11:32
intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 124.11:32
intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in division (/) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 134.11:32
intelikeyUse of uninitialized value in division (/) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 135.11:32
intelikeyIllegal division by zero at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 136.11:32
Jhairouch11:32
intelikeywow  not hta.....11:32
MistaEDwould anyone know if using a basic gtk2 engine gives speed/ram benefits than to say, a pixmap-induced clearlooks?11:32
psypher246yeah sure if you didn't bridge the tap device and yr eth device then nothing will go through11:32
Paul89psypher246: i don't think i can help much with that, i've never successfully used the package11:32
intelikeyi think that was an oooops.11:32
psypher246wow thats sucks11:32
Nermalintelikey: maybe don't overclock it ? :)11:32
intelikeylol11:32
psypher246thats why i use debian and ubuntu, no compile crap11:32
intelikeynaw it's an error in a script.....11:33
Paul89psypher246: but my guess is; did you enable multiverse etc..?11:33
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Paul89psypher246: normally i'd use apt aswell, but not for php apache and mysql11:33
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psypher246stuffir, i'm going to treat this things as windows, format re-install. i had none of this crap with my workstation, just installed my-sql no probs11:33
lampshadeIf I am going to install a new 686 kernel via apt, do I need to reinstall video drivers?  I don't quite understand how this works.11:34
intelikeyback in i minute.11:34
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Jhairlampshade: no need to install video drivers, video drivers are part of the X server not of the kernel11:34
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Poromenosmy soundblaster 4 channel card's speakers are inverted (back to front), how do i fix that?11:34
lampshadeJhair, really?  I don't have to reinstall if I do a new kernel??11:35
Poromenosi.e. the rear speakers play instead of the front ones11:35
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cwilluPaul89: if you want everything to just work, and the server isn't already the default gateway on the network, then bridging is the simplest way to make it work;  this means that the clients can even get their ip address from the networks dhcp server11:35
lampshadeI swore you did--or that I might have read that, that's why I'm confused and asking here.  Then Again, I can always revert back to the old kernel if needed I guess huh11:35
Paul89uh.. put the rear speakers in the front? :p11:35
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Paul89cwillu: but then the entire vpn would be using 192.168.2.* instead of 10.8.0.* ?11:36
Jhairlampshade: no if the driver has no issues with the new kernel. Can be, that some interface in the kernel changes and the driver relies on functionality that is not the same in the new kernel anymore. This is rather rare11:36
PoromenosPaul89: haha, thanks :P11:36
Healotlampers rule!11:36
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Poromenosfound it though :p11:36
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g0dchildis there a way to enable multiple instances of apt-get/synaptic?11:36
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Whatsisnameno11:36
Whatsisnameand it wouldn't be a good idea to allow it11:37
lampshadeJhair, cool, thank you.  Gonna try it out,  worse case I can revert back to the old kernel on my systerm11:37
g0dchildaw, shoot.11:37
Poromenosso, dual screen setup, anyone?11:37
Paul89aarhg noo11:37
cwilluPaul89: if it's bridged, the vpn is the same as the network;  any client that connects is connecting straight into the switch in the network by a really long cord11:37
psypher246paul89 i got a great howto for what you want, send me yr email and I will mail it now11:37
Paul89i've tried dual screen only once with gnome and i broke X because i forgot to backup xorg.conf.. i know, stupid mistake11:37
g0dchildWhatsisname, yeah- thats why i always say gentoo portage style emerge is a bit better- ok, lets hope i dont spark a distro war- it wasnt intended11:37
Paul89psypher246: kamikazesponge@hotmail.com11:38
Whatsisnamewhy should you need multiple instances of apt-get at the same time11:38
PoromenosPaul89: my dual screen setup has the same problem as my speakers, it's on the wrong screen :p11:38
Whatsisnameer11:38
Whatsisnamenot why should, why would11:38
Paul89Poromenos: exchange your screens :P11:38
Poromenoshaha11:38
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Poromenosyou're great at advice :p11:38
Ciemakhello11:38
Paul89Poromenos: but you managed to get dual screen to work?11:38
Paul89i know :p11:38
Healotanyways, apt locks the sources files...11:38
Poromenoswell, it was working out of the box11:38
Poromenosactually only one screen works11:38
Poromenosthe wrong one11:38
cwilluPaul89:  if you really really want them to have distinct ip subnets, you either need to set up routing (which can be done with tun or tap, although win32 has some issues with tun), or using nat11:38
Whatsisnameyeah, its so that the dependencies properly line up11:38
Poromenosi just want to switch it, not get dualscreen to work11:39
psypher246dpaul89, done11:39
Whatsisnameotherwise one apt-get instance could undermine the efforts of the other11:39
Paul89cwillu: ok, that sounds complicated.. i think i'll just use a client on every pc then :p11:39
cwillu?11:39
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Paul89vpn client11:39
cwillu??11:39
Ciemaki've got 2 problems: first is a amule: ciemak@Laptop:~$ amule11:39
CiemakThis binary requires you to use the flag --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me and only if you're very sure of it.11:39
cwilluyou already need to11:39
cwilluevery client connecting to the vpn needs, um, a client :)11:39
Ciemakwhat should I do?11:39
Jhair --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me? WTF11:40
cwilluthis is talking about how the server connects those clients to anything else11:40
g0dchildWhatsisname, - suppose i wanted to install something while another is being downloaded...given the crappy download speeds, couldnt a guy wish if apt-get supported multiple instances? heh.11:40
cwilluif they only need to talk to each other and the server, then you're done, right now11:40
Healotwtf... chuck norris11:40
Paul89yes, but i said, the server is already on my lan, so if i would bridge tap0 and eth0 on the box my entire lan would be on the vpn.. right?11:40
g0dchildi aint complaining though- i am sure there's a very good reason for it though11:40
lampshadedo the pentium m's use SMP at all?  I wanna say no, but I'm not quite sure.  (Looking to know if I should use just the 686 kernel or the 686-smp kernel)11:40
cwilluif they need to talk to anything else on that network, you have to decide how it should connect;11:40
cwilluyes, that's correct11:40
psypher246paul89, unless you REALLY wanna run openvpn on ubuntu as a server, just use ipcop with the zerina addon, AMAZING, so easy and so stable11:41
Paul89so that's why i said i'd just install a vpn client on every pc in my lan11:41
Poromenoshow do i make ubuntu recognize a new screen?11:41
cwilluahh, okay11:41
Whatsisnameg0dchild, i'm pretty sure if all you do is download, it won't lock the file11:41
Whatsisnameif you use the "only download flag"11:41
Paul89psypher246: yes, i really want to11:41
Whatsisnameyou may have to try it out11:41
Whatsisnameerr, i suppose I could try it out too lol11:41
Paul89Poromenos: i think i read something about that in the wiki11:41
Paul89!tell Poromenos about dual screen11:41
psypher246then u gonna need a pretty big server to encrypt many pc's on a lan11:41
Whatsisnameyou know of two big packages off the top of your head11:41
PoromenosPaul89: aha, i'll look, thanks11:41
Ciemaki find this flag in help:   -onlychucknorriswouldstopme, --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me        Runs aMule scary SVN development version at your own risk.11:41
Paul89!tell Poromenos about dualscreen11:42
cwillupsypher246: no bigger than you'd need for ipcop11:42
Ciemakbut amule doesn't want to run in normal mode11:42
PoromenosPaul89: it's not doing anything11:42
Paul89psypher246: it'll work11:42
psypher246or get one of the new via mini-itx boards as yr vpn server that has the builtin hardware aes encryption function, a 1 ghz cpu with this outclocks and current p4 or amd11:42
cwilluand unless you've got a 100mb upload, even a 400mhz will handle the encryption11:42
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psypher246yeaH I KNOW, EITHER WAY U NEED A SERVER THAT CAN DO A LOT OF ENCRYPTING11:43
cwillui.e., a linksys home router can encrypt fast enough to saturate a mb11:43
Paul89well then it won't be a problem, it is 400 mhz11:43
Paul89450 actually11:43
cwillulol  :)11:43
psypher246sorry caps off now11:43
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cwilluthat's what I'm running in two of the installations11:43
Agent_bobwell i seem to have hosed it again....11:43
cwillu400mhz handles about 7mbit11:43
psycho_oreosSun Sparc T natively supports encrypting on the CPU :)11:43
Agent_bobmy new prompt is       tty24 [I have no name!$~] 11:43
Poromenoscwillu: really? aes is quite fast11:43
Paul89cwillu: and the vpn can only handle 1 mbit :p11:43
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psypher246back in the openswan days it was like 500mhz per 10mb/s conection, dunno so much for openvpn11:43
lampshadewhat's the difference between linux-image-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 ??11:43
Healotand that VIA's CPU...11:44
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Paul89well.. 1 mbit upstream, 30 downstream but that won't make a big difference11:44
Agent_bobtty24 [I have no name!$~]  whoami11:44
Agent_bobwhoami: cannot find username for UID 100011:44
spiritzlampshade: linux-image-686 is a meta package11:44
psypher246so yeah if you want many clients on a lan to connect to a file server you gonna need more than 400mhz11:44
Whatsisnamelampshade, not sure, i'd go with linux-image-2.6.1blah personally11:44
psypher246oh i thought u want your whole lan vpn'd11:44
Healottried to break the encryption once in some exhibition... only got 1 character in 3.5 hours11:44
psycho_oreoslampshade: linux-image-686 is a more generic name targeted at the latest linux-iamge-686 available in the repos. It is more or less the same as the other one however its a more generic naming convention11:44
Agent_bobwhat is causing that ?   not being able to read /etc/groups  ?11:45
Paul89my whole lan consists of 4 pcs psypher246..11:45
lampshadepsycho_oreos, kk, thank you11:45
psypher246COOOOl!11:45
Poromenoscan anyone tell me the xorg.conf line for an LG 19" TFT monitor?11:45
psypher246sorry11:45
psycho_oreoserr generic naming.. meta package is the more correct words.. as spiritz mentioned11:45
psypher246;)11:45
Paul89but i have to go now, or im going to be late for school11:45
psypher246then yeah go 4 it11:45
psycho_oreoss/words/way11:45
Frogzoo!tell Poromenos about xorg11:45
WhatsisnameAgent_bob, possibly that or unable to read /etc/passwd11:45
psypher246OPENVPN ROCKS!!!11:45
bungle!repos11:45
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:45
HealotPoromenos, do you know the scanline vert and horz?11:45
Paul89cwillu, do you have msnim or something ?11:46
Whatsisnameeither that or a uid/name mismatch11:46
Agent_bobanybody ever break bash before ?11:46
cwillucwillu@sasktel.net11:46
Paul89ty11:46
WhatsisnameAgent_bob, what do you mean by bash11:46
Agent_bobi'm a nobody now.......11:46
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Whatsisname*break11:46
Agent_bobwhoami: cannot find username for UID 100011:46
Whatsisnamethats not bash's proble11:46
Whatsisname*problem11:46
Whatsisnameanyways11:46
FrogzooAgent_bob: /etc/passwd lose your user?11:46
Paul89anyway, i'm off to school now or i'll be in trouble11:46
Whatsisnamecheck your /etc/passwd, make sure there isnt a username / uid mismatch11:46
Paul89bye11:47
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Whatsisnamealrighty later11:47
cwillulater11:47
HealotAgent_bob, you changed the UID before?11:47
Agent_bobdoes passwd have to be readable ?11:47
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Whatsisnameyeah11:47
Whatsisnamei think11:47
Whatsisnameyes11:47
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Frogzoo ls -l /etc/passwd11:48
Whatsisnameit doesnt contain any passwords or anything so it should be readable by all11:48
Frogzoo-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd11:48
Frogzoo ls -l /etc/passwd11:48
Frogzoo-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd11:48
Whatsisnamewritable only by root11:48
Healotto the root and root process only...11:48
Agent_bobyeah that's it.... so /etc passwd has to be world readable.....   that don't seem right.11:48
Frogzools -l /etc/passwd11:48
Frogzoo-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd11:48
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Whatsisnameno, not to the root process only11:48
Whatsisnamethats why whoami is failing11:48
Whatsisnamewhoami is running under a user's privledges, and reading passwd is failing11:49
FrogzooAgent_bob: before you're logged in - you're a nobody, but still need to be able to read passwd to login...11:49
MistaEDporomenos: what's the model no. of the LG monitor?11:49
Whatsisname/etc/passwd should be readable and writable by root, and readable by the shadow user11:49
PoromenosHealot: i don't11:49
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Agent_bobyeah i fixed it.  but that don't seem right.    world readable  /etc/passwd and /etc/groups files....11:49
WhatsisnameAgent_bob, thats fine11:49
PoromenosMistaED: L1915s11:49
beeswaxwhere kan i get sum news bout dapper?11:49
Whatsisnamepasswords are stored in /etc/shadow11:49
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g0dchild!kopete11:49
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ubotuKopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org11:49
Poromenoswhat is the number of the second screen? 1:0:1?11:49
cirohi all11:49
Whatsisnamestored encrpyted anyway11:49
beeswax!dapper11:50
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion11:50
ciroim using amule 2.1.0 but my kad is always firewalled. who can help me?11:50
Agent_bobencripted and in another file not world readable.11:50
Agent_bobshadow11:50
Frogzoobeeswax: btw - looks like the 6 week slip is going to happen11:50
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Whatsisnametats what I said, /etc/shadow lol11:50
MistaEDporomenos: horiz = 30-63KHz, vert = 56-7511:50
Agent_bobok brb11:50
MistaED*Hz11:50
PoromenosMistaED: thanks a lot11:51
Poromenoscan i restart X without stopping my apt-getting?11:51
MistaEDnp, ubuntu needs something like SaX2 (in suse atm)11:51
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intelikeyback11:51
intelikeyyep fixed.11:51
FrogzooPoromenos: don't think so11:51
PoromenosFrogzoo: ah, thanks11:51
intelikeyKernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 263 Mhz | Mem usage: 14.9/92.4 MB (16%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%) | Uptime: 4 hrs 7 mins 36 secs11:51
MistaEDumm, i'm sure there's a way to send the pid of apt-get to something which isn't dependent on X11:51
WhatsisnamePoromenos, yes11:52
MistaEDnfi how though11:52
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Whatsisnamejust fork the apt-get process11:52
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Whatsisnamealthough if it requires your intervention you're screwed11:52
Whatsisnameunless you use it in screen or something11:52
PoromenosWhatsisname: hmm, yeah11:52
Poromenoswell, i'll wait11:52
intelikeynot bad for a modern linux with no major changes from the default eeh11:52
FrogzooWhatsisname: but once it's running... otherwise just nohup would be cool11:52
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Poromenosby the way, can i get dpkg-reconfigure to autodetect the OTHER screen settings? what number is the second screen?11:52
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Whatsisnamei don't think so11:53
intelikeydistro unknown ????     i guess it can't read the release file11:53
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g0dchilddo i need to anyth out of the ordinary to sign into msn network using kopete?11:53
Poromenosit's asking me for a bus and it has PCI:1:0:011:53
Whatsisnamefor what11:53
Whatsisnamewhats asking you for a bus11:53
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intelikeyPCI:1:0:14:0  ?11:54
Whatsisnameis it asking you to specify a video card or something11:54
Healotno, g0dchild11:55
Poromenosto autodetect my screen, i think11:55
Whatsisnamewell11:55
g0dchild:(11:55
Whatsisnamein a terminal run11:55
Poromenosbut yeah, it doesn't make much sense that the screen would be in the PCI bus11:55
Whatsisnamelspci -X11:55
Whatsisnameand it will spit out PCI devices with identifiers useful for X configurations11:55
HealotPoromenos, read the manual of that monitor?11:55
intelikeyPCI:0:14:0  <--- that's my pci vidio card11:55
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g0dchildit tries signing in for a while and then goes dead after a while- just to make sure, i tried signing in with gaim- it worked there11:56
PoromenosWhatsisname: yeah, the vidcard is there11:56
Poromenosi'm just trying to get it to autodetect the other screen11:56
intelikeysorry i got the leading 1: in the first post.11:56
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Healotthen keep using gaim, I think11:56
Poromenosi might just unplug the second screen and see if it works11:56
intelikeyagp uses pci also iirc11:56
Poromenosintelikey: yeah, my card is agp11:57
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Healotmy card is made from paper11:57
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intelikeyPCI:0:16:0  ?    or something like that ?11:57
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bunglejust installed badger 5.1 image is a 386 and should be 686 how can i change it?11:58
HealotPCI:1:0:0 - for most AGP...11:58
ShedHow can I change which application is launched by GNOME's "Launch music player" keyboard shortcut?11:58
RockClimberis it possible to install the test of dapper drake and then upgrade to the release version using whatever the update tool is (I'm a fedora user considering ubuntu for 1 machine, just got the 5.10 live cds and I like how polished it looks).11:59
Healotbungle, you need to dl a different kernel online...11:59
bunglehow healot? can i use apt -get?11:59
FrogzooRockClimber: definite maybe - you're running a test setup - so the upgrade _could_ fail11:59
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intelikeyah it may also depend on which agp you have  2x 4x 8x .......11:59
Healotyes... checkout http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for latest kernel packages12:00
bunglecheers Healot12:00
Whatsisnameintelikey, did you ever get that thing with your keyboard shortcuts working12:00
RockClimberFrogzoo, I gues what I'm asking is *how much* has been frozen. In fedora upgrading 1 version to the next isn't the recommended route, but upgrading from the final RC is easier.12:00
WhatsisnameRockClimber, most likely yes12:00
pbrEvery time I run update-manager I'm presented with a dialogue box: [Information] 12:00
pbrIt is not possible to upgrade all packages.12:00
pbrThis means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.12:00
pbrThe following packages are not upgraded:12:00
pbr  unison12:00
intelikeyWhatsisname which thing ?12:00
intelikeywas that me ?12:00
Whatsisnamei thought so12:00
Whatsisnamemaybe not lol12:01
RockClimberWhatsisname, thanks I'll give it a whirl. Are there any openoffice beta 64bit packages built for ubuntu?12:01
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intelikeyi was trying to get twm to auto load  links2 when i login into x12:01
WhatsisnameRockClimber, what beta version?12:01
ron_what is the name of the partition app?12:01
pbrapt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do anything. I've tried deleting the contents of /var/cache/apt, /var/lib/dpkg/available, removing unison and reinstalling it, but I can't get rid of the message.12:01
Whatsisnamei wouldn't think so, I don't know of any major "beta" version12:02
intelikeyi don't remember working on keys tho Whatsisname12:02
Whatsisnameron_, could be parted, gparted, qtparted12:02
ron_ty12:02
pbrAny suggestions for how to work out why it is complaining about upgrading unison?12:02
Whatsisnameintelikey, i thought you encountered some 0x08B or something in a keyboard shortcut dialog, forget about it I guess12:02
RockClimberThere is a 64bit build of 2.0.2 floating around, I found some rpms but my 64bit machine isn't suitable for playing with and non of the fedora users I've spoken too have tried it. Wondered if any ubuntu people had tried12:02
Frogzoopbr: check your /etc/apt/sources.list for hoary repos?12:02
intelikeyWhatsisname wasn't me.12:03
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pbr"grep hoary /etc/apt/sources.list" retruns nothing (ie hoary isn't mentioned in my sources.list)12:03
Healot12:03
WhatsisnameRockClimber, I only see 1.9.129 in the apt repository for 32 bit, its likely the same for 6412:04
klfd4when booting up with a custom kernel, i get insmod failures right at the start, but i cant find the messages in dmesg.. my /etc/modules file has none of the modules its trying to insert there.. any place else modules are listed to be loaded?12:04
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Nermalklfd4: in the initrd ?12:05
FrogzooWhatsisname: there is a test 2.0.1breezy12:05
klfd4hmm, let me check12:05
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JhairHealot: what does  mean12:05
pbrFrogzoo: what do you mean by "repos"?12:05
WhatsisnameFrogzoo, whats the package name?12:05
Frogzoopbr: pastebing /etc/apt/sources.list12:05
Frogzoo!ooo212:06
ubotuTo upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)12:06
Healotcan you see that? Utada Hikaru btw... just testing this SCIM-UIM thing12:06
Whatsisnameoh12:06
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Whatsisnamei was only looking in the normal apt list12:06
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pbrgrep -Ev '^(#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list12:07
pbrdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted12:07
pbrdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted12:07
pbr deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe12:07
pbrdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted12:07
pbr deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe12:07
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Healotyou!12:08
Healotuse pastebin12:08
JhairHealot: yes, Emacs is great for that12:08
anakronisme'ello. i have a non-specific question i was hoping to get answered: does anyone know how to get emacs to automatically indent when you press enter? i've read up on it, but i cant seem to find it12:08
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intelikey Mem usage: 24.8/92.4 MB (27%)12:08
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jnoonanyone know how to do this... in a bash script run by root, i want to run a command but as another user..?12:09
Jhairanakronisme: electric indentation12:09
Jhairanakronisme: Electric C section in the Emacs manual12:09
liablei think an op seriously needs to add DO NOT PASTE IN THE CHANNEL to the topic...12:09
ndlovunate_, thanks for the suggestions earlier - in the end I couldn't find any better way than testing settings with hdparm -tT12:09
intelikeyrunning x and a web browser     no swap.   pretty light eeh ?12:09
anakronismejhair: i shall investigate, thank you.12:09
klfd4Nermal, how do i view the initrd file? or should i just edit it out from grub/menu.lst?12:09
Whatsisnamejnoon, i'm sure there is a way let me give a quick check12:10
Nermalermm... I thought there was a file somewhere that told mkinitrd what modules to put in the initrd image12:10
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Nermalbut I can't find it :|12:10
klfd4how about log-files? is there a boot-up log? besides dmesg12:10
jnoonWhatsisname, sweet thanks... its for a background process script so i cant do password input etc12:10
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Nermalthere is /etc/mkinitramfs/modules12:11
klfd4its all commented out there12:11
klfd4or, its just comments :)12:11
Whatsisnamejdoon, use su12:11
Nermalhave you tried running mkinitrd for your current kernel ?12:11
Whatsisnameyou can pass a parameter it that will have it execute a commad12:12
jnoonWhatsisname,  ok ill try that out12:12
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Frogzoopbr: no problems there...12:13
klfd4i just followed a howto i found on ubuntuforums :) think it was make-kpkg --initrd blabla12:13
intelikey<klfd4> Nermal, how do i view the initrd file? or should i just edit it out from grub/menu.lst? <--- unless you build a kernel with fs support for your / file system  you MUST use initrd to boot.12:13
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klfd4then i dont need initrd then \? since i built ext3 into the kernel12:14
nate-wow, Nermal12:14
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nate-haven't seen you in forever, but I don't remember my name when i knew you12:14
marlunWhat package do I need to be able to compile java code?12:14
Healotsun' jdk + make-jpkg12:15
intelikeyklfd4 until ubuntu left ext2 out of the default kernels  i never used an initrd.12:15
Healotor try the jdk from blackdown (available in universe section)12:15
marlunHealot: That was to me?12:15
marlunok12:15
Nermalklfd4: just out of interest - why do you need a custom kernel ?12:15
pbrA while back I installed unison from debian (before I discovered the unison2.9.1 packages in ubuntu) so I could sync with a debian box. I've since removed that package, but update-manager is still complaining.12:15
klfd4k. maybe thats not my problem. when i boot up with the custom kernel, i get insmod-failures which doesnt show in dmesg12:15
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Nermalklfd4: ran depmod -a12:16
Nermal?12:16
klfd4trying to load modules which doesnt exist12:16
klfd4i'll try that12:16
anakronismejhair: the electric indentation is proving quite the challenge :)12:16
Frogzoopbr: dpkg --purge unison    & try again mebbe12:16
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ubushinehey folks, anyone have enlightenment installed?12:17
klfd4Nermal, need it for sound to work..12:17
Nermalklfd4: ah..12:17
Healotmarlun, anyways... the version of Blackdown jdk is 1.4, and the latest from Sun is 1.5 update 612:17
Nermaltried just booting with pci=noacpi noapic ?12:17
ndlovudoes anyone know how smartd works? I've got it running, but I can't seem to find any output that it generates... (I've used smartctl before though)12:17
klfd4tried everything on the forums with the default kernel12:17
Nermalndlovu: it probably outputs to syslogh12:17
marlunHealot: The sun jdk is not available in any repository?12:17
Healotubushine, I am enlightened by GNOME 2 :)12:17
klfd4Nermal, i dont really have any problems with the new kernel, its just that the error-messages on the start are fugly :)12:18
Nermalklfd4: ah.12:18
Healotno... marlun12:18
ubushinefunny12:18
Healot!javadebs12:18
Nermalklfd4: close your eyes when you start the os :)12:18
ubushineanyone -- no enlightenment users?12:18
klfd4heh12:18
Nermalubushine: in #e ?12:18
ndlovuNermal: thanks, I see it there... so syslog is different from /var/log/messages?12:19
Nermalndlovu: erm.. I think so12:19
Healotwe use metacity+gnome 2... here... or maybe not12:19
klfd4what file logs the startup process?12:19
ubushinei tried. no one there12:19
webexcan aonyone explain the use of the file /etc/nsswitch.conf or give me a link to where i can read about it?12:19
Healotsyslogd is the daemon... that's file... /var/log/messages12:20
klfd4thanks12:20
Healotman nsswitch.conf?12:20
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Nermalwebex: it tells the system what resources to use to resolve names12:20
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Nermalusually tells systems to look in /etc/hosts first (ie: files) then use things like NIS and DNS12:20
webexHealot, oh didnt know there was a man page for it, thanks12:21
Healotthere is :)12:21
pbrI've tried --purge, but it didn't help. I'll try it again...   Does update-manager have a separate list of packages? apt-get upgrade has no mention on unison.12:21
webexNermal, ok thanks12:21
Nermalpbr: tried apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:21
Healotyay, new colonel (kernel)12:22
Nermalmine exploded last night after running out of space on /boot ;)12:22
HealotI love GNU/Linux, because there is always a man to rely on :)12:22
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NermalI still have a 40mb /boot partition from the good 'ol redhat 5.1 days :)12:23
Healotthat's way too OLD12:23
Nermalnah.. we just didn't have 4mb + initrd images then :)12:23
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intelikeyok this is a ubuntu linux advertisement.     i've got 5 consoles logged in + X  xdm and one user  running a graphic web browser (links2)  an irc client (bitchx)   a sound mixer (aumix)   xterm session     and check this memory usage.    Mem usage: 26.5/92.4 MB (29%)   <-- that's right.  for all you folks with 2g+ ram  i've got less than 100m  and no swap.   :)12:24
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intelikeyplaying songs,   did i mention that12:24
intelikeysounds great   looks great12:24
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Nermalintelikey: splendid.. now fire up quake4-demo12:24
klfd4Nermal, commenting out initrd in grub/menu.lst worked :) no more insmod errors  !12:24
Healotmonolithic kernels are the pain the behind...12:24
intelikeyNermal not a gamer actually.12:25
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pbrNothing from "apt-get dist-upgrade". "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."12:26
intelikeyhdd is pretty full   but it is less than one gig.12:26
intelikeyDisk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%)12:26
snowblinkpbr, unison is in universe on 5.1012:27
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intelikeydid i mention this box came to it's origenal owner with windows 95 pre installed....   and still has it     lol12:28
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intelikeyok i'm finished bragging.....12:29
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Zero_Dayawww shucks i missed the braggong12:30
anakronismeso, you're bragging about ubuntu to ubuntu-users?12:30
Zero_Daybragging*12:30
anakronismesemms superfluous12:30
elkbuntuintelikey, write a howto for the forums or put a page up somewhere12:30
anakronismesemms, yes12:30
anakronismenot seems.12:30
pbrIf I run "dpkg --purge unison" the update-manager message about it goes away. After running "aptitude install unison" the update-manager message comes back.12:30
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StargazersHi. Have anyone of you made bash scripts?12:31
snowblinkpbr, apt-cache search unison12:31
pbr(Where dpkg --purge removes unison, and aptitue installs it again)12:31
intelikeyelkbuntu i couldn't begin to write a howto....    but i've found so nice pictures......   google images    PPMM    :)12:31
snowblinkpbr, cat /etc/apt/sources.list12:31
snowblinkpbr, do you have universe repos?12:31
Frogzoopbr: mebbe 'sudo dpkg --purge unison unison-gtk' & try again?12:32
intelikeyhmmm oooops they are not all G rated tho.12:32
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pbrI had to do "dpkg --purge unison-gtk" before "dpkg --purge unison" would work.12:33
Zero_Dayat least this room is active, i hate my distros room12:33
nachollegu...12:33
pbrdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe + security universe12:33
StargazersHow I can wget files from some server to "blah_from_variable-filenameinserver.jpg"? I mean that I have $filename array where is 100 filenames seperating by spaces and I'd like to wget all files from some server and use filenames which is defined on $filename variable? How I can do that, cause wget -O - $URL > $filename gives "Ambiguos error"?12:33
Zero_Dayi woulda just told ya intelikey12:34
intelikeywhat is your distor Zero_Day    your version info doesn't say12:34
FrogzooStargazers: man wget - check -i option12:34
StargazersOk, have to look12:34
intelikeyah ok12:35
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pbrapt-cache serach unison comes up with: tra, unison, unison-gtk, unison2.9.1, & unison2.9.1-gtk.12:35
Zero_Dayi have ubuntu here but its a fileserver for the LAN12:35
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snowblinkpbr, sudo apt-get remove unison12:36
pbrsnowblink: My /etc/apt/sources.list can be found at http://pastebin.com/60109512:36
Darkyi have to change HZ screen how i do this?12:36
nate_hmm, is apt-cache search the equivalant of searching in synaptic?12:36
intelikeywell this is the only ubuntu box i have...   and this is the first time i got all the kinks out of it.    so i might let it stay more than two days this time.12:37
Darkycan any one give me guide?12:37
pbrsnowblink: is "apt-get remove unison" significantly different to removing the package with "dpkg --purge unison"?12:37
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Zero_Dayyes ubuntu is nice, i like debian based systems12:37
Darkyi have to change HZ screen how i do this?12:37
Darkycan any one give me guide?12:37
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Darkyi have to change HZ screen how i do this?12:38
Darkycan any one give me guide?12:38
snowblinkpbr, um I think so. Apt is dealing with apt, whereas dpkg is dealing with packages...12:39
GnarusLeoAnone using a HP Pavilion laptop? Having some issues with screen flickering on using fglrx drivers ... works great with ati-driver (but no 3d acc :( ... I can start gnome, no errors, but the screen just flickers alot12:39
intelikeyDarky    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and answer all questions correctly.      "do not choose 'simple'"  when asked about rezelution.12:39
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JhairGnarusLeo: I do use a zv6000 Pavilion12:39
snowblinkpbr, by doing apt-get remove you are telling apt that you don't want it anymore12:39
GnarusLeoJhair, have you fglrx drivers?12:39
eubenesahey guys12:39
snowblinkpbr, I don't know if dpkg does that.12:39
pbrsnowblink: using apt-get to remove unison works the same as dpkg for this example. Remove package, error message goes away. Reinstall package, error message comes back12:39
snowblinkpbr, what are you trying to do?12:40
Zero_Dayty intelkey i dont use a GUI on ubuntu so i couldnt remember to tell him lol12:40
JhairGnarusLeo: sometimes it flickers, when I do ALT+F3, but it's rare12:40
sohologicdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:40
JhairGnarusLeo: never flickers under X though12:40
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GnarusLeoJhair, but you use flgrx drivers, or the ati drivers?12:40
JhairGnarusLeo: yes, I use the propietary drivers12:40
pbrsnowblink: when I run update-manager I get a dialogue box with "It is not possible to upgrade all packages. ... The following packages are not upgraded: unison"12:41
GnarusLeoJhair, and its a WXGA with radeon 9000? If so, you think I could have a look at your xorg.conf file?12:41
GnarusLeoThat would be great12:41
JhairGnarusLeo: it's another card radeon 200M12:41
Zero_Dayoops12:41
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pbrsnowblink: I'd like to know what the message keeps on appearing, and how to get rid of it.12:41
GnarusLeoJhair, I see .. I have R25012:42
JhairGnarusLeo: does it flicker under X in your case?12:42
Nameeaterhmm, my X just died and hardlocked12:42
GnarusLeoJhair, When I bott with flrx drivers  the screen goes crazy ... flcikers alot and its almost impossible to see anything ... though 3d acc works and all .. its probably monitor or screen settings12:42
JhairGnarusLeo: yes can be. 3D works for me too but only with the propietary drivers12:43
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GnarusLeoexacly .. but you have a widescreen tft right?12:44
GnarusLeoJhair,12:44
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snowblinkpbr, have you ever used backports?12:44
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snowblinkpbr, apt-cache show unison12:44
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GnarusLeoJhair, and what does alt-f3 do? :)12:44
JhairGnarusLeo: yes TFT WXGA (1280x800)12:45
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pbrNot on this box. I did manually install unison from debian a long time ago. unison has since been purged  several times.12:45
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GnarusLeoI fell out, sorry ..12:45
JhairGnarusLeo: yes TFT WXGA (1280x800)12:45
snowblinkpbr, what do you mean manually installed unison from debian?12:46
GnarusLeoJhair, exacly what I want to use ... you think I can get a copy of your xorg.conf? Maybe at pastebin?12:46
JhairGnarusLeo: under X, ALT-f3 switches to a console (text based terminal)12:46
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JhairGnarusLeo: I am sorry but I am now at work and my laptop is at home :(12:46
snowblinkpbr, what did you do? change apt sources? downloaded the deb? recompiled the debian package?12:46
GnarusLeoJhair, oh .. you mean alt - ctrl - f3 ...12:46
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JhairGnarusLeo: of course! silly me, that was what I meant12:46
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GnarusLeoJhair, ok :) Maybe Ill catch you another time .. do you remember how you installed the drivers btw?12:47
pbrsnowblink: Download and install the debian stable unison package (so I could sync between a ubuntu box and debian box with the same version before I discovered the unison2.9.1 packages).12:47
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JhairGnarusLeo: I transformed the .rpm to .deb with alien and installed the .deb with dpkg12:48
Dr3asi had big problems with getting the nivida driver to work on my system (pci-e 7800gt dual dvi), i just want to say i found a solution :D adding ignoredevices in xorg.conf12:48
pbrsnowblink: apt-cache show unison: Section: universe/net Version: 2.10.2-2build1, any other details you would like?12:48
GnarusLeoJhair, ty .. Ill try that12:48
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intelikeyATTENTION   using pastebin for transfering configuration files,  you will get markup   and need to run  dos2unix file newfile12:48
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intelikeyor use an editor and remove the markup12:48
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snowblinkpbr, ah so you directly installed a debian package onto ubuntu...12:49
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omniahola alguien sabe como se instala un modem adsl por usb12:49
Jhairomnia: WHAT!?12:50
Jhairomnia: go to ubuntu-es12:50
snowblink!es12:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:50
warpzonepardon, can somebody help me with a quick SSH problem? or is there a better channel to ask in?12:50
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omnia#ubuntu-es12:51
pbrsnowblink yes, though I've since purged the package. Something is remembering, but I can't work out where.12:51
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Jhairwarpzone: just ask12:51
snowblinkpbr, try cleaning apt12:51
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jnoonwhats up with killall -9 not getting everything? i have to run it a couple times for it to work12:52
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warpzoneI'm trying to connect to myself via SSH, but I get "connection refused". I have port 22 open, and can connect to myself using the internal network address.12:52
pbrsnowblink "apt-get clean"? which just deletes files from /var/cache/apt/archives?12:52
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briceghello everybody!12:53
intelikeyjnoon killall -9   will only kill   -9 and it's sub processes       is  -9 running on your system ?12:53
pbrsnowblink I've tried dpkg --purge unison; rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*; aptitude install unison. But that didn't help.12:53
bricegDoes someone use grdesktop or rdesktop ?12:53
Jhairjnoon: kill -9 doesn't work for zombie processes12:53
intelikeyyou are thinking of   kill -9 <pid>12:53
testDoes anyone know how I can set some options for the snd_emu10k1 module in Ubuntu? Since there are no /etc/modprobe.conf I have no idea12:53
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intelikeyi like   sudo kill -9 -112:54
Jhairbriceg: I do use rdesktop12:54
nate_how do you extract all the contents of a deb file?12:54
jnoonhmm ok... so i dont want killall -9? whats the best way to kill surely something by name (like killall)12:54
pbrsnowblink I suspect it is just update-manager which is remember it (does it have a private cache?) apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't list anything (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.)12:54
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Whatsisnamesudo killall -9 init rofl12:54
snowblinkpbr, apt-get clean; apt-get autoclean12:54
Whatsisnamedon't do that12:54
nate_or better yet, how do you create a dummy-package that just has certain dependencies12:55
intelikeyjnoon kill -9 <pid>    or   killall <name>    but   sudo either for more force12:55
pbrsnowblink Then what?12:55
intelikeyjnoon ever use   top12:56
snowblinkpbr, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install unison12:56
bricegJhair : I've installed the programme, everything seem to be OK, I've also setup windows to allow "remote admin." but when I try on my Linux to do (g)rdesktop IP_of_Windows, after a while I have the message "Connection TIme Out", could you help me?12:56
intelikeynate_ meta packages12:56
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nate_intelikey, ?12:56
Jhairbriceg: what happens if you ping the remote machine, is there?12:57
intelikeya package of dependencies12:57
intelikeymeta package12:57
jnoonintelikey,  ya use it12:57
intelikeyjnoon yeah12:57
nate_intelikey, ahh, ok thanks12:57
epssyindeed, nate_ make a meta package similar to say build-essential12:57
bricegit's alright with the ping , in fact Samba is also installed and everything work right...12:57
snowblinkpbr, if you insist on using update-manager, then clear out that cache.12:57
warpzoneI'm trying to connect to myself via SSH, but I get "connection refused". I have port 22 open, and can connect to myself using the internal network address, just not from outside12:57
Jhairbriceg: I've never seen such a message, unless the remote machine is available (I've tested Ubuntu<->Windows XP)12:58
pbrsnowblink How?12:58
intelikeyit's an interactive process manipulation app    CLI    jnoon12:58
Jhairbriceg: maybe a firewall is in the way?12:58
bricegJhair : I've also turn it off...12:58
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Jhairbriceg: maybe you can try ngrep no the remote machine to see if you get some traffic from your linux box12:59
snowblinkpbr, in the preferences somewhere there are options to clear the cache IIRC12:59
Jhairbriceg: I mean some rdesktop related traffic12:59
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Jhairngrep is available for windows afaik01:01
intelikeynate the way a meta package works when setup correctly is,  if you install it (it's empty by the way) all the deps it lists will be installed.  and if you remove it. you don't loose any files. it just removes the meta package.    how ever some meta packages have reverse dep'd  that is if you remove the meta package you uninstall lots of stuff.01:01
bricegJhair : my distribution doesn't the ngrep command...01:01
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s_spiffhello guys..01:02
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pbrsnowblink My main reason for using update-manager is that is what runs when the task bar update reminder is used to initiate package upgrade.01:02
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intelikeyshoot i gota get ready to go.    see yall when.01:02
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aliquisSo could someone tell me how to set options for a module without /etc/modprobe.conf?01:03
Jack_2000any one here have yamaha sound card and ubuntu breezy badger ?01:03
StargazersUh. Can't make wget work like I need :( I have file "files.txt" which contains all URL's I need to download. I have "filenames.txt" which contains all names how files should be renamed. Both contains as much lines, of course. So how I can download files.txt files but use names which are listed on filesnames.txt?01:03
aliquisi have "options snd-emu10k1x extin=0x3fff extout=0x7fff" in /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe01:03
aliquisbut that doesn't seem to be enough01:03
aliquisor alsa doesn't support the spdif on the livedrive01:04
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bricegJhair : would you think it could be a problem because of my Laptop wideScreen or my linux distribution 64bit?01:05
webexwhats the command to mount a smb drive in linux?01:06
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Chris_Chello everyone01:07
Stargazers Hi01:07
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Chris_Cdoes anyone know how to force a password change past the "too similar to old password" rejection?01:07
Jhairbriceg: I don't think so, I use rdesktop almost daily with a widescreen laptop running 64bit ubuntu...01:07
briceg...like me...01:07
Jhairbriceg: I use it when connected to a VPN... Probably your problem has to do with some network issue01:08
Jack_2000change pass twice ??01:08
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Jack_2000change first time to something diferent (321) and then to the desired pass :D01:08
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Chris_Cit might remember more than one password back; I wonder how to tell if it does; concerned that I'll get stuck with the new "temporary" password01:11
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bas_anyone know a calendar app like evolution, but without the email functionality?01:12
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Jack_2000have you tryed to search for some config or somerhing ?01:12
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zbysalut01:13
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snowblinkChris_C, /etc/pam.d01:16
bas_anyone?01:16
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shukhratHello All ! My Apache not runing when computer restart?01:16
marlunHow do I change tabs in vi to the length of 4 spaces instead of 8?01:17
snowblinkbas_, sunbird01:17
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bas_sunbird.. I'll check it out, thanks01:17
shukhratevery time i'm type sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start01:17
shukhrat then i's work01:17
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snowblinkmarlun, look at tabstop and shiftwidth01:17
esoterichow can i tell if the kernel im running has QoS compiled in? (2.6.12-10-386)01:18
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aliquisshukhrat: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/01:18
marlunsnowblink: it doesn't seem to recognize either of them =/01:19
Jhairesoteric: in your linux sources: grep -i qos .config01:19
X3n0nhi, I have a problem with my gamepad. It seems that the gameport receives button clicks that I don't do.01:19
shukhratThanks Aliquis01:19
X3n0nThe gamepad is sidewinder gamepad01:19
Darky//01:19
snowblinkmarlun, set tabstop=4 doesn't work?01:20
aliquisSo I'll ask one more time, how can I set some options for the ALSA snd_emu10k1 module in Ubuntu? I want to enable my sb audigy livedrive.01:20
marlunsnowblink: ah, I didn't use the "set" sorry for that.01:20
X3n0nis there any command so that ubuntu do not listen on gameport at all?01:20
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shukhrataliquis do we have easy way ?01:22
X3n0ni also want to say that wether i have my gamepad plugged or not, it receives button clicks01:23
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nate_anyone know a good howto on creating metapackages?01:25
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ateveshi, my x server doesn't start automatically anymore. i login via console and then startx01:25
ateveshow can if fix that?01:25
aliquisshukhrat: I don't know much about ubuntu/debian way of doing things but probably something like: 1) look in /etc/init.d after something which looks like a file for apache, 2) type  update-rc.d <name of whatever has to do with apache> default01:25
aliquisdefaults even01:26
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Chris_Csnowblink: thanks01:27
Chris_CI've found the /etc/pam.d/passwd file ...01:27
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Chris_Cit contains simply "@include common-password"01:28
snowblinkChris_C, so look at /etc/pam.d/common-password01:28
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snowblinkChris_C, do you have cracklib enabled?01:29
Chris_Clooking at file ...01:29
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aliquisshukhrat: was that enough?01:29
Chris_Ccracklib isn't called out in /etc/pam.d/passwd01:29
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shukhrataliquis i don't understand what to do next i found folder /ets/init.d wgat next ?01:30
shukhrat*what next01:31
snowblinkChris_C, is obscure enabled?01:31
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Chris_Cyes01:31
blk^i install telnetd but it doesn't run the service,what can i do ?01:31
snowblinkChris_C, that's probably what's doing some basic checks then01:31
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Chris_Clooking now for a man page for this ...01:31
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Chris_Cand unfortunately googling for "common-password" is no help01:32
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blk^anyone can tell me how to start the telnetd service ?01:32
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webexwhats the ubuntu command or way to renew ip? (started the computer whit out the cable)01:34
shukhrataliquis maybe i should change in /etc/default/apache2 ? directory01:34
soundraywebex: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart01:35
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aliquisshukhrat: type ls in /etc/init.d and see if there are some file called apachesomething or httpsomething01:35
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aliquisshukhrat: and then type update-rc.d thenameofthatfile defaults01:35
soundrayblk^: 'sudo apt-get install telnetd ; /etc/init.d/telnetd start'01:35
dv_hm where are the opengl manpages?01:35
dv_which package?01:35
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s_spiffguys is there something like kazaa for linux.... or any substitute?01:36
dv_I need some glDrawElements reference for example01:36
dv_s_spiff, (k)mldonkey and amule01:36
dv_also several torrent clients01:36
soundrays_spiff: apt-cache search peer file sharing01:36
s_spiffok..thnx01:36
blk^PID TTY TIME CMD01:36
blk^7199 pts/0 00:00:00 ps01:36
blk^sorry01:36
dv_or are the opengl dev manpages in a X11 dev package?01:37
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Chris_Cstill can't find documentation for /etc/pam.d/passwd or common-password ...01:38
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LinuxJonesGood Morning01:39
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soundrayChris_C: maybe what you need is in /usr/share/doc/libpam*01:39
esotericis there a way to load QoS into ubuntu without compiling a custom kernel?01:40
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shukhrataliquis in directory /etc/init.d i have file apache201:41
soundrayIs there something like an adapter that will let me use a Compact Flash memory card in place of a laptop HD?01:41
DeadZedCan anyone suggest a good back-up tool .. that would save current state of enviroment, so that in case I break the system, I could easily restore it?01:42
aliquisshukhrat: so type update-rc.d apache2 defaults01:42
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soundrayDeadZed: check out sbackup01:42
DeadZeddanke01:42
soundrayDeadZed: gern01:42
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EdLinDeadZed, make your /etc updated by cvs01:42
DeadZedcause I broke my ubuntu by updating it to dapper01:43
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JhairEdLin: what happens if the cvs repository breaks? that's not a good backup. CVS is intended for version control not backup01:43
shukhrataliguis: so should i only type in terminal this update-rc.d apache defaults it all ?01:44
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QixHi, just installed ubuntu, now im stuck with a linux-windows problem01:44
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Qixis there any slightly reliable way to write to a ntfs drive from ubuntu ?01:44
DeadZedQix state your problem01:44
EdLinJhair, he wasn't looking for a backup, he was looking for restoring configuration files01:44
soundrayesoteric: all the QoS stuff is compiled as modules, so it should be possible.01:44
QixDeadZed, busy ;) -- gimme a sec01:44
aliquisshukhrat: i think that is all yes01:45
Qixalternatively... is there a way i can convert it to a different filesystem without losing data ?01:45
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JhairEdLin: <DeadZed> Can anyone suggest a good back-up tool01:45
esotericsoundray, any perticular direction you can point me in, im not having much luck01:45
Jhairbut it's ok, it doesn't matter :)01:45
Qixbut then, i may wish to go back to windows, so if i do convert it, can the new system be read from inside windows ?01:45
ragunathwhen i tried to install kdevelop in ubuntu it gave me an error kde-config not installed , what should i do01:45
DeadZedQix there is no RELIABLE way to write onto ntfs in linux01:45
shukhrataliquis: It say like this : ( System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache already exist.01:45
Qixok, so what about converting ?01:45
Qixand, if i do convert-  can i convert it back ?01:45
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EdLinQix, shrink your NTFS parittion and make a FAT32 parittion for sharing your Windows and GNU/Linux files01:45
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aliquisEdLin: aren't there some program to use ext2 partitions in windows?01:46
DeadZedQix I only use fat32 .. never ntfs - its risky01:46
aliquisin that case isn't it better to make the shared partition ext201:46
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EdLinaliquis, yes, but I think they are read-only01:46
Qixok...01:46
soundrayesoteric: no experience here, sorry. Look at the modules in /lib/modules/<your kernel version/kernel/net/sched/01:46
lucas123help with sweex router01:47
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DeadZedaliquis ther's plenty of software for windows reading ext2, ext3 etc01:47
aliquisDeadZed: but not writing?01:47
EdLinhe needs to *write*01:47
lucas123I have to reset my sweex router when I start ubuntu 5.10 to get a internet connection01:47
lucas123after a reset all is fine01:48
shukhratPeople how to start Apache2 auto-ly after reboot com ?01:48
lucas123please some help with the router01:49
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Qixag, for now ill just leave it as it is01:50
lucas123anny help with the sweex router???please01:50
Qixill work on it when i decided which OS im sticking with01:51
shukhrataliquis: :(01:51
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soundrayesoteric, have you found http://www.opalsoft.net/qos/DS.htm ?01:51
Toma-!vfat01:51
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:51
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ReWT_AxSHow do you burn an ISO with serpentine?01:52
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lucas123why do I have to reset my sweex router to get a internet connection??01:52
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aliquisshukhrat: I have no idea why it doesn't work if the scripts already are there (and the command was the right one), you have installed apache as ubuntu packages and not compiled it by yourself or something?01:52
funkyHatReWT_AxS, you don't, use gnomebaker or k3b01:53
ReWT_AxSWHich one is better?01:53
soundraylucas123, how is your router connected to the PC?01:53
lucas123lan eth001:53
aliquisk3b01:53
funkyHatReWT_AxS, both are fine, k3b is a KDE app01:53
Toma-k3b, but youll need to install some of kde to use it01:53
aliquiskde apps are good01:53
aliquis;D01:53
ReWT_AxSoh okay01:53
shukhrataliquis: I remove Apache and install Apache2 .01:53
EdLinReWT_AxS, I like k3b better, but using it means you have to have KDE and Qt libraries01:53
zer0ncan anyone tell me whether i'm gonna have to reinstall my nvidia drivers if try this howto:01:53
zer0nHow-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset (Enhanced Performance kernel01:53
funkyHatk3b is generally considered better but if you use gnome you might be better off with gnomebaker, especially if you have limited memory or disc space01:54
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soundraylucas123, can you explain the problem in more detail please01:54
aliquisif you really have limited anything why use any of them instead of cdrecord / cdrecord-prodvd01:54
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lucas123soundray I have a onboard eth card. adsl modem en sweex router all works perfect only after booting ubunte I have to reset the router to get a internet connection01:55
Seveaszer0n, yes you will have to reinstall01:55
shukhrataliquis: in directory /etc/defaults/apache2 i have this)     0 = start on boot; #1 = don't start on boot01:55
shukhratNO_START=101:55
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aliquisso set it to 0 then01:55
soundraylucas123, so you suspect ubuntu to interrupt the router's internet connection?01:55
zer0nhey 10x, but i installed them with automatix, so can I do it again with automatix after the kernel update?01:55
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shukhratNO_START=0 ? u meam ?01:56
aliquisyes01:56
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EdLinbrb01:56
shukhratOk ...01:56
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lucas123Soundray yes its all I can think of all other computers have internet when I start ububtu all internet is gone a reset of the router and all is working again01:56
aliquisshukhrat: nice that you found it01:56
Toma-Seveas: silly question, ive installed a custom kernel, it boots fine, but no restricted modules :/ and also no ndiswrapper so i can get wireless network connected. any tips?01:57
aliquislucas123: I can't understand why that would be except if you run a dhcpd in the ubuntu machine which starts updating the other machines ips or something weird like that01:57
soundraylucas123, does your router act as a DHCP and/or DNS server?01:58
LinuxJonesToma, that's the joy of running custom kernels :)01:58
Toma-im guessing its just a matter of rebuilding linux-modules-restricted...01:58
aliquisToma-: don't use the custom kernel or build with with support for restricted modules and ndiswrappre?01:58
lucas123soundray yes its dhcp01:58
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Toma-i need a custom kernel tho, my mobo is too new for .1201:59
bungle!bluetooth01:59
ubotubluetooth is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote01:59
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soundraylucas123, and does ubuntu get its IP from the router okay?01:59
lucas123soundray yes all data is fine ip etc02:00
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Qixhi, I have one more odd problem...02:01
Qixhow do i set the permissions, on a readonly file system02:01
lucas123soundray I can acces the router by http://192.168.2.1/02:01
lucas123 ans it says connected but there is no connection until I reset it02:01
Qixi have mounted my windows drive (read only), on /win/c02:01
Qixbut can only access it from a root login02:02
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Qixroot@qix:/win# chmod 555 /win/e02:02
Qixchmod: changing permissions of `/win/e': Read-only file system02:02
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soundraylucas123: can you access any log info on the router via http?02:02
SeveasQix, duh02:02
Seveasyou can't chmod on a r/o fs02:02
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lucas123soundray yes and all it's telling me is all computers are connected02:03
drummer87arrgh... hi there, can someone help, i just got a sound card cos my onboard isn't working and I can't set it up...02:03
QixSeveas, ok...02:03
Qixso how do i read from it when not as root ?02:03
drummer87it's chipset is cmi8738 and the kernel modules are loaded02:03
SeveasQix, correct mount options (umask=2222)02:03
Qixand /win isnt a read-only fs02:03
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Qixi set it through System=>Administration=>Disks02:04
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Qixtheres no mount options there02:04
Qixand its not in /etc/fstab02:04
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drummer87and in system>preferenves>sound , it appears in the default device list, but when i select it, the change doesn't stick when i open 'sound' again02:04
drummer87:(02:04
soundraylucas123: you could run a ping to an internet site on one of your computers, then boot the ubuntu box and find out exactly at what stage of the boot process the ping stops working.02:04
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soundraylucas123, make sure you set VERBOSE to yes in /etc/default/rcS02:05
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bungle!java02:05
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:05
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lucas123soundray how do I do that exactly I run ubuntu for 2 weeks so pleas give command line02:05
drummer87what do i need to do to get this pci card working as the default device over the onboard chip??02:06
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LinuxJonesdrummer87: disable your onboard sound card in systems bios02:07
lucas123soundray during install the internet connection workd got all updates after the first real boot the problem started02:07
drummer87thanks, will try that02:07
soundraylucas123, 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/rcS'; find the line that says "VERBOSE=no", change no to yes, save the file and exit the editor. Stop ubuntu, reset the router, run the ping on the other machine, boot ubuntu, use a digital camera to take a screenshot the moment that the ping on the other machine stops.02:07
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soundraylucas123, you can post the screenshot on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want people here to have a look at it.02:08
Qixguys, how do I ste mount options on a disk ive mounted02:08
LinuxJonesdrummer87: you can specify which soundcard your system uses but it's easier just to disable the soundcard since your not using it.02:09
QixSeveas said i must set it to umask=2222 but in System=>Administration=>Disks the option isnt there02:09
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tristan_Qix, umask=2222 has to be set in fstab02:10
Qixok02:10
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Qixwell, id rather not go into editting fstab (but will if i have to)02:10
lucas123soundray oke will try it thanks for the help so far by the way ubuntu is the first linux version that I realy like and have installed in my computer without Window$ internet problem or not its stil great02:10
Qixim using that disks admin, but when i mount something - its only visible as root, how can i make it visible for all users ?02:11
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tristan_Qix, I did not follow the topic but you want to mount a hard disk with specific right, don't you?02:11
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webexanyone remembers the string to allow a specific user to a samba share? everyone in samba channel is away..02:11
tristan_I gibe you the example for my data partition : /dev/hda5       /media/Donnees  vfat    user,umask=000  0       002:11
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Qixerm, i have a ntfs disk (well, partition) which im mounting at /win/c... i can access it as root, but as another user it doesnt work02:12
Sp4rKydoes anyone know where i have to put the plugin file of punBB?02:12
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shukhrataliquis: Viola ! it's work Thanks :)02:12
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jetscreamerqix add that umask like tristan just posted in fstab02:13
tristan_then you can put instead of defaults for option : user,umask=00002:13
Qixwell, ill try write an ntfs line02:13
Qixkk02:13
Qixthanks02:13
tristan_and be sure in my line to replace vfat by ntfs02:13
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paolobHi guys! What is there in ubuntu to make panorama photos?02:14
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elkbuntupaolob, gimp is similar to photoshop, if that's what you're asking?02:15
LinuxJonespaolob: the gimp I remember a howto hit google and you'll find it02:15
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soundraypaolob: ale. Don't expect anything fancy, though.02:15
paolobsoundray, elkbuntu LinuxJones thank you!02:16
soundraypaolob: there is also a gimp plugin by the name of pandora02:16
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gnomefreakLinuxJones: the how to is in repos too02:17
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gnomefreakgropping or something like that'02:18
LinuxJonesgnomefreak: I don't even use the gimp I just remember browsing the howto on a website like 5 months ago :)02:19
gnomefreak;) i never learned how to use it02:19
bungle!easyrepos02:19
ubotubungle: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:19
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soundray!easysource02:19
gnomefreakeverytime i open it i have windows flashbacks of pop ups02:19
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:19
LinuxJonesgnomefreak: I am not creative enough (ie smart enough) to learn The Gimp :D02:19
elkbuntugnomefreak, i believe there's some plugin or script you can get that has all the panes joined02:20
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soundrayCome on guys! Gimp is really easy if you follow Grokking the Gimp02:20
ramthapeace ;)02:20
ramthageneral tls question02:20
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gnomefreakthats the how-to ty02:20
gnomefreaksoundray: i can barely use tuxpaint02:20
ramthadoes tls encrypt the whole mail transport or only authentification?02:20
Jhairtest02:21
ramthatest succesfull02:21
soundraygnomefreak: :D  Try turning the sound on...02:21
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elkbuntusoundray, i agree, gimp > all02:22
Jhairramtha: now I know what "/amsg" is for...02:22
elkbuntui forget what to do when im in that photoshop thing ;)02:22
soundrayelkbuntu: I like imagemagick, too.02:22
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elkbuntuhehe02:22
bunglehow do i edit my sources list?02:22
ramthano one ones the encryption behavior of tls?02:22
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webexanyone knows how to restart samba?02:22
soundrayramtha: it encrypts the whole exchange afaik02:23
Amaranthgnomefreak: sends the message to every channel you're in02:23
kemikwebex: /etc/init.d/samba restart02:23
webexkemik, thanks02:23
bungle!sources list02:23
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle02:23
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LinuxJonesramtha: hit google and find out al you need to know about it.02:23
bungle!sources02:23
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:23
natalieHello, I was wondering if anyone could help me.  I am still trying to get 5.10 to work.  right now, I can only get the gdm to start up whenever I startup in recovery mode.  If I start up in normal mode it freezes at the gdm.  I have tried turning off my ACPI, but then it just freezes when my kernel is loading.  Any help would be much appreciated.02:23
ramthaok i have a look02:23
gnomefreakah ty02:24
elkbuntunatalie, did you run any possible updates?02:24
soundraynatalie: oh dear, you're still at it :(  Sorry the acpi suggestion didn't help.02:24
natalieelkbuntu: Yes, I have run all possible updates.02:24
elkbuntuand you're using breezy, not dapper?02:24
nataliesoundray: Yeah, still at it, though thank you for the suggestion.02:24
natalieelkbuntu: Yes, It is breezy not dapper02:25
elkbuntuwhat errors are you having come up?02:25
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Unimatrix9hi there02:26
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bintutwhen will dapper be release?02:26
soundray!dapper02:26
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion02:26
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gnomefreakbintut: april 20th or 6 weeks later than that02:26
Unimatrix9is there an easy repair for the ubuntu breezy flaw? ( passwd )?02:26
LinuxJonesbintut: it probably will be delayed till middle of June though02:26
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gnomefreakUnimatrix9: yes upgrade your kernel02:27
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kemikUnimatrix9: update02:27
Unimatrix9thats not easy02:27
LinuxJonesUnimatrix9: jsut update and upgrade your system02:27
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Unimatrix9ah, i see02:27
shukhrati couln'dt connect to mysql ? from index.php ? how to test it ?02:27
gnomefreakUnimatrix9: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:27
gnomefreak^^thats easy02:27
EvilDinam guys need to install mail server which have webmail support for all users! which one to use it! and how?02:27
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Unimatrix9cool, becuase i have an presentation this night, about ubuntu, and its the old breezy that we hand out...02:27
Unimatrix9thats why is ask :P02:28
elkbuntushukhrat, you should probably go to either #php or #mysql for that, but if you pm me i'll give suggestions02:28
aliquisEvilDin: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.1002:28
ramthaEvilDin: try courier or postfix / cyrus02:28
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Unimatrix9ok, i will recommend update....02:28
Unimatrix9thanx02:28
ramthaEvilDin: or some phpgroupware02:28
natalieelkbuntu: not really sure.... It just freezes when it loads the gdm.  It's a full kernel panic.  I can't even switch screens with CTRL+ALT+F1.02:28
aliquisshukhrat: if you can connect with the shell client to the database and phpinfo() says php have mysql support it should work02:28
aliquisbut postgresql is the better open database ;/02:28
gazanferhi02:28
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gazanfernate_: are you online? im zedzero...02:29
_jasonUnimatrix9: I would update and change password since someone may have seen it before the update02:29
nate_sup02:29
EvilDinam problem i am using not ubuntu apache but package XAMPP02:29
EvilDinso what do i use02:29
soundraynatalie: what graphics card and driver are you running?02:29
elkbuntushukhrat, aliquis you really should take the php/mysql talk to #ubuntu-offtopic at minimum02:29
Unimatrix9ah, yes good thinking02:29
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aliquisan smtp/pop3/imap server to begin with?02:29
bintutgnomefreak and LinuxJones: thank you for your reply02:29
gazanfernate_, xubuntu is very nice. but now i would like a graphical login screen. that is gdm or kdm right?02:30
gnomefreakits gdm02:30
gazanfer!gdm02:30
ubotugazanfer: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:30
nataliesoundray: I have a ATI 9800 radeon Pro.  Those are the drivers that I am using for it.02:30
soundraynatalie, ati or fglrx?02:30
avalostthere are several display managers you can use, gdm, xdm, kdm etc..02:30
nataliesoundray: ATI02:30
avalostdepends on which window manager you would like to use02:30
gnomefreakxubuntu,fluxbox,openbox,blackbox use gdm (but i think you can use different ones)02:30
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avalostgnomefreak: you can use virtually any display manager with any window manager02:31
nataliesoundray:  I have already tried redoing the xserver-xorg02:31
soundraynatalie: I have loads of trouble whenever I try ati. I suggest you try fglrx -- look at ubotu's pm02:31
soundray!tell natalie about ati02:31
Chris_Cdoes anyone know of any tools (hopefully available in the ubuntu repository) for downloading all of the pages of a website in one fell swoop?02:31
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mercChris_C: wget? :)02:31
nate_gazanfer, ya, or xdm02:31
LinuxJonesChris_C: there's an extension to FF that does that I believe02:31
Chris_CI basically need to a quick backup of a text-only internal website that I run02:31
gnomefreakChris_C: there is onein repos but i dont remember name of it02:31
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gazanfer!xdm02:32
mercChris_C: im almost positive wget does it.02:32
avalostChris_C: if it is internal just gzip it02:32
Chris_Cmerc: thanks, I'll check wget, indeed that might have an option02:32
nate_gazanfer, if you want to keep that theme you could go with xdm, but it's ugly02:32
mercChris_C: np..02:32
Chris_Cavalost: can't do that, it's zope, long story02:32
avalostor make a tar02:32
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GodFatherhi02:33
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avalostChris_C: hang on I had something about mirroring sites, let me see if it's here02:33
GodFathercan anybody help me plz ?02:33
gnomefreakiirc wget will only get index pages02:33
gnomefreak!helpme02:33
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.02:33
soundrayGodFather: I don't know. Depends on the problem.02:33
GodFatherthx02:33
athlonhas anyone here managed to compile the latest gnome using garnome (either cvs-daily or 2.13.92 version )02:33
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GodFatherI install on my pc02:34
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soundray!enter02:34
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.02:34
Unimatrix9natalie : if you boot with an linux live cd, you could edit the xorg file, in fact you could put back the "old"working version thats backupped when you wrote the new file02:34
GodFatherbut I can`t login as root02:34
GodFatherwhy ?02:34
gnomefreakubotu tell GodFather about root02:34
chuckyp!tell GodFather about sudo02:34
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cyphasehaha, that's funny: http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=171506#17150602:34
soundrayUnimatrix9: natalie has already found out about recovery mode.02:34
cyphasesomeone thinks microsoft can top XGL02:34
cyphase:P02:34
avalosthttp://www.jim.roberts.net/articles/wget.html02:34
avalostChris_C: ^02:34
gnomefreakbrb smoke02:34
GodFatherthx02:34
chuckypcyphase, who?02:34
chuckypbrb smoking also02:35
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josehola02:35
Unimatrix9natalie, if you use knoppix ( or even better kanotix ) you can copy the xorg.conf ( ah, i see recovery it is )02:35
joseQuien habla espanol02:35
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cyphasechuckp, some guy on the MSDN forums02:35
Unimatrix9:)02:35
snowblink!tell jose about es02:35
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shukhrataliguis: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 2002:37
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webexhow do i restart bashrc ? keep forgetting it02:37
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ahFeelsource .bashrc02:37
ahFeelwe002:38
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ahFeelwebex02:38
ahFeel:)02:38
webexthanks ahFeel02:38
ahFeelnp02:38
ahFeel:)02:38
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shukhrataliguis: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 2002:40
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flooHow do i get things to open with a SINGLE mouse click02:41
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_jasonubotu: tell shukhrat about lamp02:42
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Chris_Cmerc: all done, thanks again02:42
elrohow do I set emacs to use the same font as the gnome terminal ('Monospace')?02:42
gnomefreakfloo: kind of depends what your opening and from where. (you can also make a launch for it02:42
gnomefreaklauncher )02:43
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flooWell if I want to oopen files on my desktop for example02:43
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chuckypmorning gnomefreak02:43
drgREBORNI need a little help with onboard sound02:43
shukhratubotu: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 2002:43
ubotushukhrat: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about02:43
gnomefreakmorning chuckyp02:43
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Jhairelro: emacs -fn 6x1002:43
_jasonshukhrat: did you read the page ubotu sent you to?02:43
Sp4rKyplease, where must i put the plugin file of punBB (in which directory ) ?02:44
gnomefreakshukhrat: that might be better suited for #mysql (sounds like either a config issue or a issue with w/e that file is02:44
gnomefreak)02:44
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aliquisDid anyone know how to set options for an alsa module in ubuntu? i need to get my livedrive working02:45
drgREBORNI need a little help with onboard sound, ubuntu has taken over the onboard chip and now windows cannot sense the chip and thus I have no sound.02:45
chuckypaliquis, alsamixer?02:46
thefishdrgREBORN: you have windows and ubuntu running simultaneously?02:46
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aliquischuckyp: i can't find any options for the external spdif in it02:46
drgREBORN(thefish): no02:46
chuckypaliquis, and alsactl maybe02:46
aliquischuckyp: if i turn over the analog / spdif setting all it changes it the spdif on the sound card02:46
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thefishthen how do you think ubuntu has taken it over?02:46
shukhrat_jason: yes read ! several times02:47
aliquischuckyp: but not on the livedrive, and i have no optical cable to test the livedrive with02:47
drgREBORN(thefish): I'm now in windows, when I check hardware manager it state my sound chip is at /root/dev/sound which ubuntu uses02:47
_jasonshukhrat: did you install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and php(4/5)-mysql02:47
aliquischuckyp: also i sad options and meant module options, not mixer02:47
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chuckypaliquis, Dunno then but alsamixer might allow you to turn on the spdif02:47
chuckypaliquis, if not I dunno02:47
aliquischuckyp: yeah but switching over from analog to spdif only turn on spdif on the sound card, not on the livedrive02:48
thefishdrgREBORN: i think you have a windows problem there, ubuntu cant write to hardware02:48
drgREBORNcant be02:48
aliquisso i guess either alsa doesn't support it on the livedrive or i have to set the options for the snd_emu10k1 module02:48
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aliquisand that's why I wonder how to do that in ubuntu02:48
drgREBORNthink ubuntu overrode my windows driver or something02:48
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thefishdrgREBORN: it cant02:48
aliquisi've created the file /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe with the options02:48
pdHi there all02:49
shukhrat_jason: now i trying install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql but it say W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_bina02:49
drgREBORNbut it cant even detect the chip02:49
aliquisbut I have no idea if that is enough or if it works, i just know i don't get the result i'm looking for ;)02:49
drgREBORNand its displaying the path of teh chip as in ubuntu02:49
_jasonshukhrat: sudo apt-get update02:49
drgREBORNsomehow they got mixed.02:49
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thefishdrgREBORN: where do you see /root/dev/sound in windows?02:49
pdI dont have  linux specific topic, but I would like to know how to make my vim editor colorful while editing bash scripts02:49
drgREBORNdevice manager02:49
pdI believe in RHEL systems it come automatically02:49
shukhrat_jason: Thanks02:49
drgREBORNthe sound devices02:49
drgREBORNinstance id02:50
aliquispd: :set syntax on and :set nocompatible02:50
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gnomefreakpd: you mean syntax coloring?02:50
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thefishdrgREBORN: thats a windows error, also there is no such thing as /root/dev in any linux afaik02:50
pdgnomefreak: yes02:50
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gnomefreakpd: see aliquis comment02:51
thefishdrgREBORN: also, your ubuntu will probably use /dev/dsp for access to the soundcard02:51
pdaliquis: I did not understand you properly,02:51
aliquisor just touch ~/.vimrc since that will turn on nocompatible settings02:51
aliquispd: in vim type :set syntax on02:51
pdaliquis: I am trying now02:52
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drgREBORNthefish:thanks anyways I'll just buy a dedicated soudncard then02:52
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aliquispd: ESC before if you are in insert mode02:52
tomaszhej02:52
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Andr31Does anybody know why don`t my mp3`s play, and I installed gstreamer.02:52
pdok02:52
_jason!mp302:52
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:52
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Andr31I INSTALLED GSTREAMER _jason02:53
_jasonAndr31: I wasn't sure if you were referring to gstreamer0.8-mad02:53
Andr31I did02:53
_jasonAndr31: gst-register-0.8 and restart totem02:53
Andr31_jason, you mean download it?02:54
_jasonAndr31: run the command 'gst-register-0.8'02:54
pdaliquis: I get this message "E492: Not an editor command: et syntax on"02:54
_jasonpd: :set not :et02:54
Andr31H/o02:54
Andr31_jason,  still not... :/02:55
Andr31Only one mp3 plays02:55
aliquispd: so type SET instead of ET02:55
aliquis;/02:55
_jasonAndr31: if one mp3 plays then you can play mp3's02:55
Andr31No I can`t02:56
pdaliquis: now i get it02:56
aliquisor well, :set syntax=on02:56
aliquis;/02:56
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Andr31can I run Totem from command line?02:56
_jasonAndr31: 'totem'02:56
Andr31H/o02:56
aliquispd: sorry about that, should had been "syntax on" or ":set syntax=on"02:56
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Darkyhow can i do this icons (look at the butom of the pic):02:57
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Darkyhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354802:58
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Darkyhow can i do this icons (look at the butom of the pic):02:58
Darkyhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354802:58
aliquisdarkfires: look at the comments02:58
aliquisDarky: second comment02:58
aliquis;)02:58
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aliquisalternative answers: 1) buy a mac 2) use kde and the superkaramba thing which supplies them02:59
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Andr31_jason, I managed to play that mp3 with RythmBox02:59
kfransenis there a way to lock ssh?02:59
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Juhazit might be starterbar gdesklets. or it could be nothing, considering that screenshot is obviously fake02:59
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kouweis there an application, so i can see the temperature of my pc and fan speed etc for ubuntu?02:59
aliquiskfransen: lock? like in not enable it?02:59
elkbuntu!sensors03:00
ubotusensors is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto03:00
kouwe:)03:00
kfransenyes03:00
elkbuntukouwe, --^03:00
_jasonAndr31: so you can only play one mp3 out of your whole collection?  what happens with the other ones?03:00
aliquis!snd_emu10k1_options03:00
kouwenice thnx03:00
aliquis;/03:00
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aliquis03:00
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Andr31_jason,  they simply don`t load03:00
_jasonAndr31: you are using breezy?03:00
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sobersabrehi guys. i got the dapper .... is there a repo for it, with, say backports ?03:01
Andr31meaning 5.10?03:01
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_jasonsobersabre: there are no backports for dapper since backports come from the next version of ubuntu and there isn't one yet03:01
elkbuntusobersabre, there's a channel for it, it's #ubuntu+103:01
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_jasonAndr31: yeah03:02
Andr31Yes03:02
Aarohihi guys. i can't unload using rmmod..03:02
Aarohii need help03:02
sobersabre_jason: I currently have main,restricted,universe,multiverse sections.03:02
_jasonAndr31: I don't know, I can't understand how one can play.  I would think it would be all or nothing03:02
chuckypAarohi, are you using sudo rmmod?03:02
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sobersabreAre there "extras" or something ?03:02
Aarohichuckyp, should i?03:03
Andr31_jason, me too03:03
_jasonsobersabre: not that I know of, try #ubuntu+103:03
chuckypsobersabre, yes the universe and multiverse03:03
chuckypAarohi, yes03:03
Aarohik i'll try again chuckyp thanks03:03
Aarohi_jason, jason crosby?03:03
_jasonAarohi: nope03:03
Andr31_jason, do I need sudo <something>03:03
Andr31?\03:03
Aarohik sorry _jason03:03
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_jasonAndr31: shouldn't, that gstreamer0.8-mad package is all you need to play mp3's03:04
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Andr31_jason,  can you reccomend me a command line mp3 player?03:06
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briceghello03:06
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_jasonAndr31: mpg12303:06
chuckypAndr31, vlc?03:06
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bricegDoes someone ever had this message in var/log/messages :  localhost kernel: usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address03:06
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chuckyp!tell briceg about someone03:07
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moshehello03:07
chuckypyellow03:07
briceghi chucky !03:08
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Andr31I get vlc for Debian, right?03:09
chuckypAndr31, its in the universe repos03:09
_jasonAndr31: vlc is in universe03:09
chuckypAndr31, sudo apt-get install vlc03:09
Andr31Ok03:09
chuckypAndr31, thats if you have the universe enabled03:10
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chuckypAndr31, theres even a x frontend and a mozilla plugin for it.03:10
FrogzooI'm looking for a freenode server with port 443 usable (through corporate proxy) any ideas?03:10
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CraiZEhello, i just installed ubuntu03:10
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CraiZEbut it keeps on prompting me when trying to SU to root for a pwd03:11
Andr31After the dependencie root is made there are lotsa errors03:11
CraiZEi never entered one....03:11
Frogzoo!sudo03:11
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:11
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Andr31chuckyp, I have universe enabled, but it can`t find it03:12
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Andr31:/03:12
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soundrayAndr31, did you run apt-get update?03:12
webexman i cant get the samba to work.. hade the sameproblem the last time. cant log in whit the windows propt.. i have encrypted passwords = yes, and user = webex, and i have added webex whit smbpasswd -a webex.. anyone have an ide? (all is aw in sabma channel)03:12
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CraiZEhm03:12
CraiZEcraize@ip-192-168-0-50:~/Desktop$ sudo chmod 777 C03:12
CraiZEchmod: changing permissions of `C': Read-only file system03:12
Enthusiast78Anyone playing around with OpenVPN?03:12
CraiZEi just want to be able to read it ffs :(03:12
Andr31soundray, how`s that03:13
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soundrayAndr31: are you using synaptic?03:13
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Andr31Yes03:13
snowblinkCraiZE, sudo chmod a+r ...03:13
CraiZEok03:13
Andr31soundray, yes03:13
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soundrayAndr31, click the update button on the very left.03:13
CraiZEsnowblink, sudo chmod a+r C03:14
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CraiZEdoesnt work either :(03:14
soundrayCraiZE: where is C located?03:14
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CraiZEin /home/craize/Desktop/C03:14
Andr31Wow, my connection has 50kbps Never taught it would03:14
metelliushow can I set the qt-style to plastique instead of the ugly cde-default? (for qt4 on ubuntu)03:14
Andr31I had 2703:14
CraiZEand i am in /home/craize/Desktop03:14
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CraiZEhow can i change the owner03:15
CraiZEso the owner becomes me, instead of root?03:16
_jasonCraiZE: what is C?03:16
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CraiZEa mounted NTFS partition03:16
soundrayCraiZE, if your home is a read-only filesystem, there's something wrong.03:16
psycho_oreosCraiZE: chown03:16
soundrayCraiZE: ahh03:16
CraiZEyah03:16
CraiZEi mounted it with the disk tool03:16
_jasonCraiZE: mount it with umask=222 as an option03:16
soundrayCraiZE: NTFS is read only.03:16
CraiZEin ubuntu03:16
psycho_oreosCraiZE: you need to set the umask=0600 or something03:16
CraiZEwhere do i set the mask?03:16
CraiZEi used the provided tools to do it03:16
psycho_oreos/etc/fstab03:16
CraiZEwhich fail to work :P03:16
CraiZEk03:16
soundray!tell CraiZE about enter03:17
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_jasonubotu: tell CraiZE about ntfs03:17
psycho_oreosbtw, after you edit the file, you need to unmount the partition/disk and then remount it. After that check it via 'mount' or cat /proc/mouts or cat /etc/mtab03:17
CraiZEuh03:17
psycho_oreoss/mouts/mounts03:18
CraiZEi can use that script?03:18
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psycho_oreoswhat script?03:18
edancan anyone help me? it seems that my firefox keyboard shourts are not working how do i fix that??03:18
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CraiZEokay that script helped03:19
CraiZEthanks alot :)03:19
CraiZEnow on to my next problem, my keymap, where can i change it?03:19
psycho_oreosCraiZE: ubotu is a bot03:19
CraiZEyeah i know , heheh03:19
CraiZEi thank the guy who made the bot tell me the info03:19
CraiZE:)03:19
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CraiZEso how can i change my keymap?03:20
takedowndpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:21
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CraiZEok thanks03:21
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CraiZEuhm03:22
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edansomone knows how to get firefox shourtcuts to work?03:22
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chuckypedan, like what sort of shortcuts?03:22
CraiZEi only want to change the keyboard layout03:22
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CraiZEnot my config of X1103:22
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CraiZE:(03:22
edanchuckyp, keyboard03:22
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sdfzxwhere can i download the diskmounting bash script?03:23
soundrayCraiZE: check out the keyboard indicator utility for the gnome panel.03:23
Steve^I'm wanting to update gaim to the new beta, hoping it will remove some of the ultra-annoying bugs. Since it is beta, should I uninstall the older version first, or can I just install the newer version over the top?03:23
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chuckypedan, well what did you change?03:23
edanchuckyp, like ctrl+t and stuff like that...03:23
chuckypedan, and which ones don't work?03:23
CraiZEsoundray, where is that?03:23
edanchuckyp, all of them...03:23
soundrayCraiZE: right click panel, select Add to panel, under Utilities03:23
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bobulatoranyone got any ideas why my soundblaster audigy isnt working? ive tried pretty much everything i can find on tinternet. it worked before we moved the computer into a new case...03:24
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CraiZEyes03:24
CraiZEthat lets me see it03:24
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CraiZEbut not change?03:24
chuckypedan, hrm... do the mouse shortcuts work?03:24
CraiZEoh03:25
CraiZEfound it, thank you :)03:25
chuckypedan, what did you change before they stopped working?03:25
edanchuckyp, all my key boared shourtcuts kined whent crazy is ther any way to change them backe to defualet03:25
chuckypbobulator, is the os detecting it.  i.e. lspci03:25
bobulatoryup03:25
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chuckypbobulator, also make sure you are plugged in to the right port on the bakc.  and that your speakers work.03:25
bobulatoryup03:25
bobulatorchecked a million times, haha03:26
chuckypedan, I dunno where firefox holds its shortcuts let me poke around.03:26
edanchuckyp,i changed somthing in confuguration editor....03:26
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sdfzxpls give me the link of diskmounting script03:26
_jason!diskmounter03:27
uboturumour has it, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter03:27
Shigutsois there any application in Linux for me to program in Turbo Pascal language?03:27
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ElektrochelovekShigutso, fpc03:27
Elektrochelovekfree pascal compiler03:27
Shigutsohmm and where can i get it?03:28
Steve^is there a free Delphi complier?03:28
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Elektrochelovekhttp://www.freepascal.org/03:28
Shigutsothank you very much :D03:28
Steve^that website has been down for a while...03:28
Elektrocheloveknp;)03:28
Andr31soundray, I managed to make VLC play.. !03:29
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soundrayAndr31: well done.03:30
edanchuckyp, its really wiered bucoase now it workes all by itself.....03:30
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chuckypedan, i dunno it appears the shortcuts are built into the binary.  is it possible you changed your keyboard layout or something goofy?03:30
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chuckypedan, hrm..03:30
Andr31Thanks guys!03:30
benkong2Hey, all dapper drake is awesome in ubuntu I love the graphics03:31
edanchuckyp, anything is possible....03:31
RendoAnyone know where I can find a site with the features of Dapper Drake?03:31
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benkong2Only one thing I had ubuntu working perfectly ifplug, net-manager applet wireless and all switched perfectly etc. Then when I did an apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop it all broke. What happened?03:31
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elkbuntudapper discussions should be in #ubuntu+103:32
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edanchuckyp, thnx for helping :)03:32
znoopeedeutsch sprechende hier?03:32
gnomefreak!de03:32
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de03:32
soundraybenkong2: have you tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?03:32
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ruzgari cant play my dvd in ubuntu03:32
ruzgarwhich programs can play dvd formak03:32
soundray!tell ruzgar about restricted03:32
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Frogzooruzgar: have you installed libdecss03:33
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benkong2soundray: no but I will03:33
CraiZEhrm, i guess i need to restart X1103:33
benkong2soundray: what does it -f "force"03:33
CraiZEto test it out03:33
CraiZEi bbl03:33
bobulatoranyone got any other ideas for getting my SB audigy to work? im certain its  asoftware problem03:33
ruzgari can play divx avi format03:33
ruzgarbut i cant open dvd format03:33
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soundraybenkong2: when you do a big(gish) install like kubuntu, you will sometimes have left over work for apt. 'apt-get -f install' fixed that.03:34
soundrayruzgar, read ubotu's message.03:34
benkong2soundray: k I am running it now03:34
ruzgarok03:34
soundrays/fixed/fixes/03:34
djk_does dapper include more languages by default?03:35
soundraydjk_: yes.03:35
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djk_soundray: where can i get a list of them?03:36
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Fablelist of wat?03:36
benkong2soundray: hmmm all I get is a "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 55 not upgraded." so I guess I gotta dig more. Ifplugd borks on boot after the install03:36
soundraydjk_: have you got it installed yet?03:36
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Frogzooruzgar: try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdread3' - but consider if you're violating patent/legal restrictions03:37
djk_soundray: no, 5.10.03:37
soundraydjk_: I've posted the output of apt-cache search language-pack to http://www.soundray.org/dapperlanguages.txt03:38
djk_soundray: err.. that was not the question..03:38
djk_soundray: the question was, does dapper include more languages by default, meaning, without apt-get..03:38
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soundraydjk_: you mean on the install CD? I don't know.03:39
djk_soundray: yea, that's what i mean.03:39
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elkbuntusince dapper isnt complete yet, it's unlikely there's a full list just yet03:40
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soundraydjk_: what decision is going to be based on the answer?03:43
Frogzoodjk_: dapper will support korean, japanese & mandarin amongst others - & better support & probably more languages than breezy03:44
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djk_soundray: whether or not it'll be installed on a pc without inet-access.03:45
Frogzoodjk_: ooh... high stakes :)03:45
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znoopeewhere can i find a working ati driver installation howto? i tried about 6 and they all resultet in x-server crash -.-03:46
Frogzoo!ati03:46
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358903:46
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sp3ed hey, can someone tell me how to mount a filesystem? i can list the shared file whit smbclient //ip/share -U username.. but i cant get the mount commands to work03:46
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Frogzooznoopee: which vid card?03:46
znoopeex80003:46
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soundraydjk_: there are ways to add packages to machines that are offline.03:46
Frogzooznoopee: you want the fglrx driver03:46
Frogzoo!fglrx03:46
ubotufglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
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znoopeei'm noob ^^ just some 3d acceleration03:47
djk_soundray: for example?03:47
Frogzooznoopee: I'd suggest you go the seaveas repo route03:47
Fableis DAPPER getin the latest GNOME... cuz it is out 15th/3 which is by my CALCULATION 2moz03:47
mikelonew kernel image out03:47
znoopeefglrx is the easiest to install right? well then i try this first ;)03:48
FrogzooFable: definite maybe - schedules are being debated as we speak03:48
sp3edPlease? can someone help me mount a samba filesystem? the books stupid commands dont work =(03:48
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crybabyI thought that drapper wil be delayed for some weeks03:48
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dooglusBadm4n: /join #ubuntu-meeting03:48
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kas_hallo03:48
FableFrogzoo: AWS03:48
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soundraydjk_: look at the print-uris option of apt-get03:49
zebarbunewbie question: where may I find the .config used to compile the linux-image installed?03:49
gazanferwhat packages do i need to use graphical sudo?03:49
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CraiZEuhm, hello again :P03:50
zebarbuanybody to answer me, please?03:50
CraiZEthe keymap i change from the utility panel, doesnt affect the keyboard at all as it seems03:50
Frogzoozebarbu: /boot03:50
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JazarusHello there friends03:51
zebarbuFrogzoo: ok, thanks. An other question: I install kernel sources, but the version is 'truncated'03:51
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djk_soundray: that would require another fresh install.03:52
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zebarbulinux-source-2.6.15, but the installed kernel is  2.6.15-18-03:52
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zebarbuFrogzoo: why this version different?03:53
JazarusI have a question: Would ubuntu be able to boot on my pci graphics pre-sawtooth 350mhz PowerMac G4?03:53
soundrayzebarbu, the 18 is a build number added by ubuntu.03:53
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zebarbuFrogzoo: yes, but sources are patched for -18 ?03:53
CraiZEcould anyone help me to change the Keymap of my Keyboard?03:53
zebarbuFrogzoo: how may I do if I want to recompile a -17?03:53
Seveaszebarbu, no, 18 is just an abi number03:53
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LS|-away-wusste garnet das Slackware so verbreitet ist03:54
soundrayJazarus: probably. Check out a live CD if you are unsure.03:54
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phreak97how do i enable dma acceleration on my cd burner?03:54
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SeveasLS|-away-, this is #ubuntu - english only and no slackware...03:54
Frogzoo!dma03:54
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soundrayphreak97: use hdparm03:54
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mikeloubuntu rulez03:54
LS|-away-sry03:54
mikelowindoz sux03:54
LS|-away-wrong channel03:54
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rasputnikSeveas: but surely there's a patchset to apply to the stock source?03:54
Seveasrasputnik, ubuntu-patch-$abinumber03:54
Frogzoophreak97: /etc/hdparm.conf03:54
weedarHi guys! I downloaded and installed 2.6.14 kernel (as per the HOWTO on ubuntu-forums), can I safely remove ubuntu packages of older kernels?03:54
zebarbuSeveas: Debian.src.changelog says that sources are pateched to follow -17, -18 and so on...03:54
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rasputnikSeveas: cheers (I"m having a go at xen soon and could do with a headstart)03:55
rasputnikweedar: if it boots, yes03:55
Seveas!xen03:55
ubotuwell, xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .03:55
Jazarussoundray : is this what you mean ? -->  http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php03:55
CraiZEcould anyone help me to change the Keymap of my Keyboard?03:55
Frogzoothat will completely rock when pacifica launches03:55
weedarrasputnik, it boots nicely =) The reason I ask is because I noticed that adept wants to upgrade my 2.6.12 packages...yet since I'm not using them I don't see the point =)03:56
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Toma-!nvidia03:56
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:56
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FrdPrefctHello03:56
JazarusI still dont know what I am meant to do with that list03:56
FrdPrefctIs there anything better than dia or kivio for ubuntu?03:56
rasputnikFrogzoo: it's pretty good now :) - but tricky if you want to add to the build (lvm in my case)03:56
phreak97soundray, Frogzoo, i think im gonna need more help than that.. im a fair noob03:56
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dzonni!intel03:57
ubotudzonni: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:57
rasputnikJazarus: there's an ubuntu livecd for powerpc03:57
CraiZEhrm this sucks, i cant even get my right keymap :(03:57
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ardchoilledid they take libdvdcss2 out of the plf repos?03:57
villerhi03:57
FrdPrefctFYI, I've passed out over 100 Ubuntu cd's at my office, and everyone seems to be loving it.03:57
fyrzenright keymap on what? Ubuntu?03:57
dispanserCraiZe: you can use the xmodmap command03:57
villeris linux (kernel) monolithic or is it a microkernel??03:57
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CraiZEdispanser, thanks i look into that03:57
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Jazarusthanks03:57
rasputnikCraiZE: it's under the admin menu? or kbdconfig if you want the console03:57
psycho_oreosviller: monolithic03:57
soundrayJazarus: no, I mean http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ (Mac live CD)03:57
Frogzooviller: mono03:57
gazanfercan anybody help me with a specific xfce4 problem?03:58
Seveasviller, monolithic but with loadable module support03:58
sp3edAnyone ever mounted a samba filsystem in ubuntu? please i really need help03:58
villernow i have to make a suicide03:58
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rasputniksp3ed: nautilus can do it03:58
FrdPrefctsp3ed: Yup, what's the issue?03:58
dispanserCraiZe: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<your_country_code>03:58
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villeri have always thought that Linux is a microkernel03:58
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soundrayphreak97: there is a guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA03:58
FrdPrefctsp3ed: Even got it set up for automount  =P03:58
psycho_oreosviller: that does not mean you can turn it into microkernel yourself with a bit of messing around with kernel configs and recompiling03:58
FrdPrefct(don't ask)03:58
rasputnikviller: why? nothing uses microkernel, it's not worth the bother these days03:59
gazanferanybody knows what do i need to run sudo in x? (im not using gnome or kde, xfce4)03:59
villerit's not about how good it is03:59
CraiZEits still wrong03:59
sp3edFrdPrefct: i cant get it to work. i have red all there is to read and come up whit the command: mount -t smbfs //IP/folder /mountfolder -o username=sp3ed03:59
phreak97soundray, thanks03:59
psycho_oreosrasputnik: GNU/Hurd is microkernel IIRC03:59
CraiZEi change it and all, but it doesnt affect my system03:59
CraiZE:(03:59
villerit's that i have been living in a big lie for all the time I have used Linux (6 months :D)03:59
Jazarusthanks all03:59
rasputnikpsycho_oreos: exactly. how many boxes do you know that run that?03:59
sp3edFrdPrefct: but it dosnt work.. i can list the files whit smbclient //IP/Folder -U sp3ed04:00
dispanserCraiZe: I assume you're talking about running X?04:00
soundrayCraiZE: does the indicator icon change when you click it?04:00
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CraiZEnot really04:00
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CraiZEit seems like its not doing its job :(04:00
Frogzoosp3ed: is the shell stripping your chars? try  mount -t smbfs //IP/folder /mountfolder -o04:00
rasputnikanyone know a command line dvd burner ?04:00
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gazanferanybody knows what do i need to run sudo in x? (im not using gnome or kde, xfce4)04:00
CraiZEi just want the regular german keymap to run on my whole system, is that somehow doable?04:00
villerbut what about bsd? It has came from UNIX so it's monolithic?04:00
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psycho_oreosrasputnik: not many but then again, its not like as if its non-existant :)04:01
soundrayCraiZE: then you're back to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.04:01
fyrzenhave you tryed editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf layout setting?04:01
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rasputnikCraiZE: sudo kbdconfig04:01
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dispanserCraiZe: under X, you can set your keyboard layout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the following line:04:01
Frogzoosp3ed: scratch that04:01
soundrayCraiZE: You can just accept the defaults for anything you don't want to change.04:01
CraiZEsoundray, ah okay04:01
CraiZEthanks04:01
CraiZEdispanser, also thanks, kudos to rasputnik also04:01
CraiZEi try04:01
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rasputnikviller: BSD is monolithic with loadable modules, yes04:02
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soundrayCraiZE: under keyboard layout, enter "de"04:02
Frogzoosp3ed: experiment with smbclient 1st maybe04:02
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linxtvrHi, I'm stupid I deleted the proftpd file from /etc/init.d/ anyone know how I can add this again?04:02
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soundrayCraiZE: under keyboard ruleset, "xorg", and under model "pc105"04:03
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sp3edFrogzoo: there is so mutch text, can we take it priv?04:03
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Pecisknewest so called "Human" theme for Ubuntu Dapper - it is final version or there will be improvements?04:03
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kennethdUsually I use ~/.bash_profile to adjust my PATH and start keychain @ login, & these things are inherited by all terminals I open, etc, but this is not working with the default gdm setup04:03
Peciskbecause if it is first, it looks seriously half-backed, and very odd04:03
Frogzoosp3ed: soz - I'm busy this end, so won't be much help04:04
rasputnikhow would I bump my ubuntu to dapper? just change s/breezy/dapper in sources.list and 'apt-get dist upgrade' ?04:04
soundrayPecisk: it is not ready.04:04
soundrayFor dapper questions, go to #ubuntu+104:04
kennethdrasputnik, growisofs is a command-line dvd burner04:04
sp3edFrdPrefct, you still here?04:04
rasputnikkennethd: that burns too? nice, thanks04:04
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CraiZEhow can i now restart X11 ?04:05
CraiZElol04:05
rasputniksoundray: when I get dapper, I will :)04:05
rasputnikCraiZE: ctrl-alt-backspace04:05
Pecisksoundray: thanks04:05
CraiZEthanks04:05
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Kezzercrikey =O I guess Ubuntu is quite popular then04:06
WapppoHello I would like to know if there's a way to know what deb package provides a file with apt or dpkg?04:06
KezzerI'm just about to install it onto another partition as dual boot with XP, anything I should keep in mind?04:06
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soundrayWapppo: check out the apt-file package04:07
kennethdWapppo, apt-file search04:07
Wapppothanks ;-)04:07
soundrayKezzer: avoid selecting the LVM option during install, unless you already have experience with it.04:08
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soundrayKezzer: most install troubles (if any) seem to have to do with grub, so look at the wiki page:04:08
blendahow can i get firefox 1.5 to work in breezy? did anyone have success with the debian/rules in firefox-1.5rc3-source.tar.bz2?04:08
soundray!tell Kezzer about grub.04:09
colm!firefox1.504:09
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:09
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sp3edsomeone know how to mount a samba system? why doesnt the command: mount -t  smbfs //ip/folder ~/mount -o username=sp3ed work???04:09
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rasputniksp3ed: you are putting the IP address where it says //ip/, right?04:10
sp3edrasputnik: yeh04:10
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rasputniksp3ed: what's the error?04:10
Frogzoosp3ed: easiest might me to install smb4k & then see how it mounts the fs04:11
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rasputniksp3ed: just open a nautilus window and type 'smb://ip/folder' in the location bar. easy.04:12
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sp3edrasputnik: lots of errors.. =( man why isnt there just a simple command for it?04:12
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sdfzxiei can somebody give me the script of diskmounting04:13
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blendasdfzx: what script?04:13
Frogzoosp3ed: no password there04:13
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teh_SSdudes, in dapper the devie for floppy is /dev/fd/0 ?04:14
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caglar_do you know a program which can download selected items from an rss?04:14
Frogzoosp3ed: but if you want to make sure it's possible - first install smb4k & run/mount from there04:14
_jasonubotu: tell sdfzx about diskmounter04:14
teh_SS*device04:14
LKRaideranyone knows how to make XChat don't show JOINs PARTs and QUITs?04:14
Frogzoocaglar_: there's the 'sage' extension in firefox which is pretty nice04:14
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CraiZEAHhey hey04:15
caglar_Frogzoo: thanks, ill have a try04:15
CraiZEAH!help ATI04:15
soundrayCraiZEAH: working?04:15
CraiZEAHsoundray, yeah04:15
CraiZEAHalthough im stuck at 60Hz on a CRT now04:15
CraiZEAHweirdly, but i think installing the driver will help :P04:15
soundray!tell CraiZEAH about fixres04:15
soundrayCraiZEAH: yes, fglrx is good to have04:16
teh_SSi must install windows on a pc with Dapper in other partition and i dont want to lose my grub, so i wanted to format a floppy but i dont find /dev/fd0 just /dev/fd/0, is this last the device for the floppy in dapper?04:16
CraiZEAHyeah04:16
CraiZEAH!tell CraiZEAH about ATI04:16
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CraiZEAHthere are 3 links soundray04:16
rasputnikteh_SS: no, that's 'file descriptor 0' i.e. standard out04:16
CraiZEAHwhich one is better to be used?04:16
soundrayteh_SS: it very likely is.04:16
phaedrali'm toying with the idea of going ubuntu on my new compaq laptop (presario v2000) instead of debian testing; suggestions from #ubuntu?04:17
soundrayoops, thanks rasputnik04:17
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gnomefreakphaedral: we are gonna pick ubuntu for that04:17
rasputnikheh no problem - good luck formatting that04:17
snowblinkLKRaider, settings->advanced->text events04:17
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mikelolong live ubuntu04:18
LKRaidersnowblink: and I just delete the lines?04:18
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luis_hola04:18
teh_SSim getting the same error when trying to access to it, /dev/fd/0 is not a valid block device, that must be an floppy disk error? i mean, its an old floppy (who has floppy this days)04:18
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phaedralgnomefreak: i dig; any special gotchas on the laptop install?04:18
Frogzoo!tell phaedral about hardware04:18
luis_alguien por ahi de habla hispana04:18
phaedralFrogzoo: thanks04:18
luis_neceito ayuda04:18
Frogzoophaedral: check the config against supported hardware04:18
soundrayphaedral: if you like a bit of troubleshooting excitement, help testing dapper, the next release of ubuntu.04:18
snowblink!tell luis_ about es04:18
gnomefreakphaedral: i dont know all hardware is different04:18
luis_neceito ayuda04:18
teh_SSrasputnik: soundray thanx for both answers :D04:18
mikeloluis_, veo si puedo ayudarte04:19
luis_hola vale como estas04:19
gnomefreak!es04:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:19
mikelook04:19
luis_mi yo me estoy iniciando en linux04:19
soundrayteh_SS: have you found it yet? You may have to insert a module to get the device.04:19
luis_y uso ubunto04:19
mikelowe cant talk here04:19
luis_prto no se instalar pogramas04:19
tristanmikeDoes anyone know how to change the language track in MPlayer ?04:19
luis_quiero instalar amule04:19
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luis_y no pudo04:20
luis_puedo04:20
tristanmike!es04:20
gnomefreakluis_: /join #ubuntu-es please04:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:20
teh_SSluis_: no esta permitido hablar en espaol aca, anda a #ubuntu-es o habla ingles aca04:20
luis_ok04:20
mikeloluis_, #ubuntu_es04:20
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luis_esta bien04:20
QixIm having trouble installing ATI linux drivers under ubuntu 5.1004:20
luis_explicamelo en ingles04:21
Qixi searhed google for the error message, not much turned up04:21
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Qixroot@qix:/usr/share/fglrx# aticonfig04:21
Qixaticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:21
mikeloanybody here uses ibm laptop x40?04:21
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Qixwhat can i do about it ?04:21
gnomefreakluis_: take it to #ubuntu-es please!04:21
luis_where do you from04:21
rasputnikQix: you're missing a library04:21
Qixi kind of guessed that rasput04:22
teh_SSsoundray: well, i see no floppy or so when doing lsmod04:22
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Qixproblem is, where do i get it from, and why ?04:22
rasputnikQix: probably it's in /usr/local/lib? have a look04:22
Qixi mean, i installed the ati driver set from their site04:22
Qixok, its there04:22
Qixso why isnt it picking it up ?04:22
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Qix/usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_pp.so.1.004:22
Qixits looking for libfglrx_pp.so04:23
Qix*.104:23
rasputnikOix: you didn't tell the dynamic linker where it is04:23
soundrayteh_SS: try 'sudo modprobe floppy', check the output, and perhaps "ls -lrt /dev | tail" will give you an indication what the device name is.04:23
Qixnah, its a slightly different name ?04:23
CraiZEAHokay04:23
Qixis that the problem ?04:23
josehola04:23
mikeloluis escribe //join #ubuntu-es04:23
rasputnikQix: yes, that's how shared libs work , the .1 file is a symlink to .1.004:23
joseajuda04:23
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phaedralsoundray: was off reading about hardware04:23
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rasputniktry adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running 'sudo ldconfig'04:24
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phaedralnot up to testing; want something easy this time ;)04:24
teh_SSsoundray: tnx a lot, now i have /dev/fd0 (after modprobe floppy)04:24
teh_SSxD04:24
sdfzxthanks for the help04:24
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CraiZEAHuhm, i lost the fixres link04:26
teh_SSdudes, is there a link i can read to have an idea of which modules i can load the the ubuntu kernel?04:26
CraiZEAHcould some1 link to it again ?04:26
soundray!tell CraiZEAH about fixres04:26
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luis_/ join #ubuntu.es lo coloco en donde04:26
Qixrasputnik, tx, it worked04:26
rasputnikQix: cool.04:26
rasputnikQix: you'll need to do that when you build from source. add the lib/ directory to ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig04:27
znoopeeme again... i tried the howto from wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI       x-server crashed again :( wtf is wrong?04:27
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luis_disculpa la burrada04:27
luis_pero quiero ir donde hablen espaol04:28
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crybabyluis_ I want to learn spanish04:28
gnomefreakluis_: /join #ubuntu-es04:29
soundrayGuys, make yourselves a Spanish learning channel. Leave this one to Ubuntu support in English please.04:29
teh_SSluis_: tipea "/j #ubuntu-es" en el lugar donde tipeas los mensajes (sin las comillas)04:29
Frogzooznoopee: xserver crashed, or monitor freaked out?04:29
luis_ok04:30
sp3edPlease i have spent all day trying to do this. The command: smbclient //192.168.0.32/shared -U sp3ed works perfectly but i cant get the mount commands 2 work! i have read all there is to read! please!04:30
teh_SSexcuse for the spanish, just instructions for luis to join ubuntu-es04:30
soundrayteh_SS: thanks.04:30
znoopeex-server didnt start, just got some not clearly readable error message04:30
Frogzoosp3ed: have you tried installing smb4k ???04:30
rasputniksp3ed: HAVE YOU TRIED NAUTILUS ??04:30
sp3edno i want to use the mount commands04:30
luis_/ join #ubuntu-es04:31
Frogzoosp3ed: but an automated tool will prove the fs is mountable - then figure the fstab entry04:31
rasputnikyou need to tell us the errors then really04:31
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone04:32
luis_" j #ubuntu-es"04:32
CraiZEAHi brb hoping it fixed itself :P04:32
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gnomefreaksomeone that speaks spanish tell luis_ the /join are together not seprate04:34
gnomefreakplease04:34
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone04:34
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tuxedo_kamenlisten, I am a newbie, can anyone help me install a program?04:34
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gnomefreaktuxedo_kamen: what program04:35
Kyral!synaptic04:35
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:35
tuxedo_kamenvmware tools04:35
Kyral!apt-get04:35
crybabyluis_ tienes que hacer / join unbuntu-es . pero entre la / i join no tiene que tener un espacio04:35
ubotufrom memory, apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto04:35
Kyralnevermind04:35
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crybabygnomefreak: I have tried04:35
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gnomefreakty crybaby04:35
znoopeeFrogzoo: any idea why x-server does not like fgrlx?04:35
tuxedo_kamenI have an RPM and a TGZ04:35
gnomefreaki dont think vmware is in the repos04:35
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rasputniktuxedo_kamen: then you want the tgz04:36
gnomefreaktuxedo_kamen: you will want to use the tgz04:36
tuxedo_kamenok04:36
tuxedo_kamenand how can I install it?04:36
gnomefreaktuxedo_kamen: its a long process04:36
Frogzoosp3ed: guess what - man mount says smbfs is not supported - you need to use smbmount04:36
snowblinktuxedo_kamen, search the forums. IIRC there is something about patching vmware tools first...04:36
rasputniktuxedo_kamen: it's like a zipfile. it'll probably have a long boring readme.04:36
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gnomefreakunpack the tar configure make than make install04:36
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michal_yis there 'safe mode' in ubuntu? i messed my xorg.conf i my laptop just hangs when loading x-server, please help04:37
gnomefreakor checkinstall is better than make install04:37
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rasputnikFrogzoo: if only there had been some kind of errors to warn us :)04:37
soundraymichal_y: can you switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F104:37
soundray?04:37
gnomefreakmichal_y: yes boot to the kernel i cant think of what the name is off hand04:37
michal_yno :(04:37
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rasputnikmichal_y: you killed your virtual terminals? how did you manage that?04:38
soundraymichal_y: then you should watch the boot messages. Hit Esc to get the grub menu, select the recovery kernel (probably the second one down).04:38
michal_yok i am trying04:38
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gnomefreaklol rasputnik if i had to guess we dont wanna know how he did it :(04:39
lafferptwhat packages do I need to install to start coding in python?04:39
gnomefreakbut we all make fun mistakes like that04:39
soundraymichal_y: you will get to a root shell where you can re-run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:39
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CraiZEhmm, fixres doesnt help :S04:39
rasputnikgnomefreak: don't worry, soundray will save him.04:39
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gnomefreaklafferpt: use synaptic there are a ton of them but you should already have everything you need04:40
CraiZEanyhow, how can i check if 3D Acceleration is working?04:40
znoopeedamn linux >< ill reboot to windows now where i just download and run driver-installation.exe and everything working fine -.-04:40
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michal_ysoundray: i swithed to ctrl+alt+f1 during boot messages but it is trying to load gnome anyway04:40
lafferptgnomefreak, ok tks04:40
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gnomefreakCraiZE: glxgears -printfps04:40
CraiZEthx04:40
tuxedo_kamenbut can anyone please help me installing this?04:40
CraiZEit doesnt show the FPS04:41
CraiZEoh04:41
CraiZEit does04:41
mikeloanybody here uses ibm laptop x40?04:41
CraiZE700004:41
CraiZEis that good?04:41
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soundraymichal_y: select the recovery kernel from the grub menu, very early in the boot process.04:41
gnomefreakCraiZE: welcome to 3d if that is the last number on the line04:41
teh_SSsoundray: tnx for your assitance, im off now, bytes04:41
CraiZE35389 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7077.693 FPS04:41
gnomefreakCraiZE: welcome to 3d :)04:42
michal_ysoundray: thx, booting the recorvery kernel now...04:42
snowblinktuxedo_kamen, what part are you stuck on?04:42
CraiZEthx04:42
CraiZEnow i heard about this new Desktop on digg.com04:42
CraiZEwhat is it called again?04:42
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gnomefreaksnowblink: he doesnt know hot o compile it04:42
CraiZEi wanted to try that one out :)04:42
gnomefreaks/hot o/how to04:42
rasputniktuxedo_kamen: it's a world of pain. search for vmware on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/04:42
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rasputniktuxedo_kamen: and may god have mercy on your black soul.04:42
gnomefreakCraiZE: do you have dapper or breezy04:42
Frogzooso sp3ed: you need something like:  sudo smbmount //aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd /mnt -o username=###,password=###04:42
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CraiZEi got breezy04:42
CraiZEi think04:42
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CraiZE5.1004:43
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gnomefreakCraiZE: you dont get to play with xgl04:43
jeremy1hello everyone, I have a question. How do i get my ubuntu to startup into firefox04:43
CraiZEi dont?!04:43
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CraiZEwhy not?04:43
gnomefreakCraiZE: its not worth it04:43
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gnomefreak!xgl04:43
michal_ysoundray: thanks you all for help, i have prompt, i know what to do next, thanks again ;)04:43
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:43
CraiZEit looked nifty04:43
FiNeXhi!04:43
lucaaassomething stole a lot of space just now, i have no idea what, any ideas?04:43
CraiZEcan i convert breezy to dapper?04:43
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lucaaascupsd was using lots of cpu%04:44
Frogzoojeremy1: just put firefox in ~/.gnomerc ?04:44
gnomefreakCraiZE: yes but dapper is still in testing and may break (upgrade has good chance of breaking)04:44
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CraiZEwell04:44
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CraiZEi still want to try04:44
CraiZEhow would i go about upgrading to dapper?04:44
Frogzoo!upgrade04:44
rasputnikjeremy1: system -> prefs -> sessions. there's a startup items tab04:44
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.04:44
CraiZEthis is a "for fun" linux install :P04:45
jeremy1Frogzoo: can start ubuntu with minimim resources and use firefox alone04:45
gnomefreakCraiZE: change your sources list from breezy to dapper sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:45
soundrayCraiZE: dapper is great fun. I would install from scratch, though.04:45
gnomefreak^^^use the upgrader04:45
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lucaaasCraiZE, change breezy to dapper in sources.list and do a apt-get dist-upgrade :)04:45
CraiZEwell where is sources.list?04:45
lucaaas/etc/apt/04:46
Frogzoojeremy1: with some fiddling, anything's possible04:46
sp3edFrogzoo: sudo smbmount gives "unknow command"04:46
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CraiZEi just change the line on top04:46
CraiZEthat Says _Breezy Badger_04:46
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gnomefreakCraiZE: either burn the iso or use the upgrader04:46
CraiZEto Dapper ?04:46
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jeremy1What I want to do is use the web-browser as the main screen when the system is started04:46
gnomefreakCraiZE: ^^^ read above04:46
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rasputnikCraiZE: no, look at the lines that start 'deb' - change the breezy in there to dapper04:47
CraiZEwell i am confused :(04:47
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soundraysp3ed: sudo apt-get install smbfs04:47
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jeremy1I dont want any other stuff to take resources and make the system slow04:47
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rasputnikCraiZE: being confused is natures way of telling you you're about to screw up your system04:47
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CraiZEi dont mind screwing it up04:47
MasterCwho is responsible for the german localisation?04:48
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CraiZEso where can i download the ISO04:48
pulsar84Hi.04:48
gnomefreakCraiZE: we are not allowed to help screw up your system tho04:48
CraiZEi jsut do the install from scratch then :)04:48
rasputnikjeremy1: just use a different window manager. ratpoison is about as minimal as it gets04:48
gnomefreak!dapper04:48
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion04:48
rasputnikCraiZE: see subject of the channel04:48
gnomefreak!dailybuild04:48
ubotuDapper daily build CD images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/04:48
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MasterCthe gksu german local in dapper has an error04:48
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CraiZEokay04:48
CraiZEleeching it04:48
MasterCit says "Bitts.....", but it have to be "Bitte..."04:49
gnomefreakMasterC: dapper related issues please join #ubuntu+104:49
MasterCokay04:49
CraiZEso after i install from scratch04:49
CraiZEi am able to use glx ?04:49
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gnomefreakCraiZE: no04:49
me2winxgl you mean?04:50
soundrayCraiZE: glx != xgl04:50
CraiZEyeah , dang04:50
soundray!xgl04:50
CraiZEsorry04:50
gnomefreakyou have to install it and get your 3d back04:50
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:50
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CraiZEyah getting the 3D was alright with the tutorial the !tell bot gave me04:50
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jeremy1Frogzoo rasputnik: What do you mean on a diffrent window manager04:50
rasputnikjeremy1: instead of gnome. gnome is enormous04:51
CraiZExgl looked like alot of fun to me!04:51
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CraiZEyeah04:51
CraiZEif it doesnt, fuck it ;)04:51
CraiZEits not the end of the world04:51
CraiZEi want to try it04:51
SeveasCraiZE, language...04:51
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me2winremember to get fglrx first04:51
me2win!fglrx04:51
ubotufglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:51
soundrayCraiZE: you're not allowed to use profanity in here.04:51
CraiZEsorry, i didnt mean it in a bad way at all though04:51
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jeremy1Frogzoo rasputnik: ok but I want to start the system without a login screen and start a web-browser instead04:52
soundrayCraiZE: the polite word is "intercourse" ;)04:52
CraiZEit was just to demonstrate how little i would care if it wouldn't work :)04:52
Frogzoosoundray: f**k isn't profane but obscene04:52
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CraiZEalright, well off to the dentist04:52
soundrayFrogzoo: oh. Off to answers.com to learn about the difference...04:52
CraiZEthanks guys04:52
rasputnikjeremy1: you're going to need a window manager to do most things. there's an auto-login option on gdm somewhere04:53
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snowblinkFrogzoo, of course it is profane.04:54
jeremy1rasputnik: oh I see, So is there a way of making it minimal as possible and just use the web-browser04:54
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soundrayFrogzoo: I think it is both profane and obscene, and I object to it because of its profanity more than because of its obscenity.04:54
eth42hi! is it possible to reassign a menu-item shortcut in a gtk application? (I think it was at some point...)04:54
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chuckyprasputnik, bah need a wm no you don't04:54
rasputnikjeremy1: yes, you just tell X to start firefox. put 'exec firefox' in ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession04:55
snowblinkjeremy1, you want a kiosk type function?04:55
rasputnikchuckyp: If you don't know what one is, you probably do.04:55
chuckyprasputnik, lol04:55
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diskodavecan anyone make any sense of http://pastebin.com/601433 ?04:56
internetihow do I remedy this? http://pastebin.com/601423 : using ubuntu breezy if that helps04:56
jeremy1rasputnik: can you explain it step by step, cos I want to get it up04:56
Frogzoosoundray: answers.com has it wrong - profane always carries a religious connotation04:56
snowblinkFrogzoo, check a dictionary04:56
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jeremy1snowblink: Ya sort of04:56
lucaaasevilness, /var/log/cups/access_log is 2.4gb04:56
akuHi people04:57
rasputnikjeremy1: not in IRC really. as others said, just google for kiosk howtos04:57
gnomefreakdiskodave: what are you tryign to do?04:57
jeremy1rasputnik: ok I'll do that04:57
jeremy1rasputnik: You maybe know of website or wiki pages04:57
akuey someone knows why my video and sound arent sincroniced04:58
diskodavegnomefreak: was doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy (but it hasnt completed and apt is seemingly wedged like this http://pastebin.com/601433 )04:58
rasputnikjeremy1: i've done it recently (with about 200 diskless clients) and it's fairly straightforward04:58
chuckypjeremy1, ifyou just configure the session and set it to auto login and put whatever apps you want to auto launch in .gnomerc you should be good to go.04:58
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gnomefreakdiskodave: when you run dist-upgrade what does it say?04:59
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soundrayFrogzoo: even if I accept that, I consider the subject matter sacred enough to object to the word we are discussing.04:59
Frogzoosnowblink: soundray: I stand corrected - thanks04:59
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jeremy1chuckyp: Wont that start other programs in the background and eat performance power04:59
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gnomefreakdiskodave: also do me a favor and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin please04:59
KezzerI can't get X server to start at all, I can't even configure it. I'm using 64-bit version of Ubuntu and the error says "Fatal server error: No screens found"05:00
Kezzercould this be an ATI problem?05:00
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soundrayjeremy1: for a minimal-footprint system, Ubuntu is not the best distribution.05:00
chuckypjeremy1, well you could just start an X server and then launch the apps you wanted without gnome05:00
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webexhow can i get "smbfs" whats it used for?05:01
chuckypsoundray, it can be as minimal as any, where do you guys get this stuff?  Do you make it up as you go along?  Or are you reading it from a book?05:01
chuckypwebex, what are you trying to do?05:01
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rasputnikwebex: if you don't know what it's for, why do you want it ??05:01
soundraychuckyp, you've misread me, and why the aggression?05:02
Frogzoowebex: it's used for mounting windows server file systems05:02
Frogzoowebex: or samba servers, for that matter05:02
pulsar84I've got strange problems related to wxWidgets and/or GTK-1.2 font-sizes. I think it's something about my dpi settings. Has anyone ideas how to fix it? See http://pulsar.lart.info/vlc.png for a screenshot of wxvlc.05:02
chuckypsoundray, No aggression just tired.05:02
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diskodavegnomefreak: thanks! all additional stuff is now here http://pastebin.com/60145105:02
soundraychuckyp: the point is not that ubuntu *cannot* be minimal, but that there are other projects out there that are better suited for a minimal-footprint system.05:02
Mananohi everybody05:03
diskodavegnomefreak: i think my apt/sources.list is exactly as the breezy upgrade webpage had it ... i just pasted in the replacement exactly as they gave it05:03
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Mananocon i make some question about ubuntu???05:03
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_jasonManano: sure just ask, no need to ask for permission05:03
webexFrogzoo, i want to mount my samba share in this ubuntu computer and all the books talks about "smbfs" and "smbmount" cant find the commands..05:03
soundrayManano: that's what this channel is for.05:03
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gnomefreakdiskodave: you need to make sure none of the deb lines have a # infront of them05:04
Mananookie thkx05:04
CyorxampHey,  I need to mount my fat32 partition read/write - and I forgot how - anyone know?05:04
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Cyorxampit's the fstab line I need05:04
_jasonubotu: tell Cyorxamp about vfat05:04
chuckypsoundray, i dunno my fealing on it lately is all linux distros are getting closer and closer together.  I really don't care whihc distro i'm running anymore.  There is no longer a need ot roll your own kernel with modules being loaded and unloaded etc... I dunno i'm tired.05:04
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CyorxampI don't want some program _jason05:04
MananoI want to access Windows share folder but I con not05:04
CyorxampJust 'the line'05:04
chuckyp!tell Manano about ntfs05:04
_jasonCyorxamp: scroll towards the middle of the page05:04
Mananodo you show me plz??05:04
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Mananoyess05:05
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chuckypManano, read the message ubotu sent you05:05
Mananowait me 1m05:05
_jasonCyorxamp: I'm referring to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions by the way05:05
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diskodavegnomefreak: all clear as far as i can see05:05
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Mananouhm I using ubuntu throught VMWare05:06
chuckypgnomefreak, huh?05:06
gnomefreakdiskodave: i hate to say this but the best thing to do is go back to old sources.list and sudo sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox than change the sources.list again and run dist-upgrade (this will fix it for sure)05:06
diskodavegnomefreak: grep deb /etc/apt/sources.list | grep '#'     returns no output05:06
gnomefreakchuckyp: ?05:06
chuckypgnomefreak, whats he trying to do?05:06
rasputnikManano: so you want to mount files from your windows computer into the VM?05:06
gnomefreakdiskodave: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will give you the list im not sure on how to grep for it05:06
diskodavegnomefreak: ok .. no problem if its a pain .. its all less of a pain than a reinstall from ISO!05:06
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diskodavechuckyp: just a dist-upgrade to breezy but its well stuck http://pastebin.com/60145105:07
gnomefreakchuckyp: upgrade to breezy but looks more like a dapper upgrade by the ff depends issues05:07
Mananoyes ro the same work05:07
rasputnikManano: then you probably want to use samba.05:07
gnomefreakor hes running ff1.5 on hoary05:07
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Mananonow I want to access the window share folder05:08
chuckyp!tell Manano about samba05:08
MananoIt request the authentication05:08
Mananoyess plz05:08
chuckypManano, again read what ubotu said05:09
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Mananowhen I acess the share resource05:09
redondosHello. After a reboot, I had to run fsck on my / partition (unmounted), when that finished, every file (and I mean *every* file) went into /lost+found. On reiserfs you have the --rebuild-tree argument for fsck, but what for ext3? Any suggestions, please?05:09
internetihow do I remedy this? http://pastebin.com/601423 : using ubuntu breezy if that helps....05:10
diskodavegnomefreak: ok i've put my apt/sources.list back to warty and i'm doing to sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox ... hopefully that gets this mess untangled :) thanks!05:10
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gnomefreakdiskodave: ahhhhhhhhhh05:10
MananoSorry about problem05:10
gnomefreakdiskodave: you need to go from warty to hoary than to breezy05:11
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Mananowhen I access the share resource05:11
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internetiso there is not one person who has has a similar problem (http://pastebin.com/601423)05:11
MananoIt display : You must log in to access 192.168.133.12805:11
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Mananoand request me username, domain, pass05:12
rasputnikinterneti: nope. it tells you whats up though, you need to tell it where the library is05:12
diskodavegnomefreak: oops .. my bad... i meant hoary all along! false alarm sorry05:12
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TuxMeisterhey guys05:12
rasputnikwe don't know what they should be Manano05:12
chuckypManano, is there a password on the share05:12
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Mananono05:12
Mananoi have not set password on it05:13
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TuxMeistercould anybody tell where can i find a supported hard list for ubuntu's latest version? i have certain problems makin' a wifi pc-card work under linux05:13
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zipper!upgrade05:13
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.05:13
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internetirasputnik: what would linux be if it wasnt occasionally a pain in the ass05:13
rasputnikinterneti: osx. hahahahahahaha05:14
mustard5interneti, tried installing libebook1.2-dev ?05:14
Mananocan U help me05:14
Manano???05:14
MananoRasputnik & chuckyp05:14
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aeolisti just ran readcd -clone bla-bla and it created a .raw and a .raw.toc! exceptional! but how do i burn them now? i cant treat it like an .iso, can i?05:15
LKRaiderany way of restoring sudo capabilities without resorting to a livecd?05:15
rasputnikManano: no, sorry - don't know the first thing about setting up shares from windows05:15
Jemt!remaster05:15
ubotuJemt: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:15
Jemt!remastering05:15
ubotuJemt: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:15
mustard5LKRaider, recovery mode at grub05:15
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JemtIs there any information on remastering Ubuntu available?05:15
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LKRaidermustard5: okay, thanks :)05:15
defryskaeolist, cdrdao write blah.toc ?05:15
chuckypManano, and what happens when you leave it blank and did you read the link I sent?05:15
aeolistsounds like a plan defrysk05:15
internetilol rasputnik05:16
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defryskaeolist, works with .cue so also might work with .toc05:16
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valichola05:18
javiolo!es05:18
valichay algun chileno05:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:18
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valicokXD05:18
rasputnikyuk. dapper has a horrible windows progress bar when it loads the kernel05:18
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feresmohi people05:18
defryskRaskall, horrible ?05:18
mustard5greetings feresmo05:18
internetirasputnik is dapper stable enough at this point to upgrade to?05:19
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defryskrasputnik, I mean05:19
katz0rhi, i was looking forward for the new composition manager in metacity 2.14, however todays update did not change anything (visually)...where did it go?05:19
soopi've been using dapper for a while now05:19
soopit seems fine05:19
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soopno issues05:19
rasputnikinterneti: it's stable enough to boot as far as dhcp config from the install cd. more news as i get it.05:19
Mananochuckyp, I don't recieve any link05:19
Mananosend me again plz!!!05:19
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chuckyp!tell Manano about samba05:20
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chuckypManano, read the link that ubotu is sending you05:20
crimsunkatz0r: you don't happen to actually read the changelogs, do you?05:20
Paperwhere can i find good repositories for breezy ?05:20
chuckypPaper, what do you mena good?05:20
defrysk!repository05:20
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk05:20
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chuckypPaper, the official ones?05:20
defrysk!repo05:20
feresmova o no va05:20
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk05:20
chuckyp!repos05:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:20
crimsunkatz0r: in 1:2.13.144-0ubuntu1, note: "..Compositor improvements [remember, still off by default] .."05:20
defryskdang:s05:20
feresmoalguien habla espaol?????05:20
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Paperchuckyp: not necessarely05:20
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crimsunferesmo: #ubuntu-es05:20
chuckypferesmo, #ubuntu-es05:20
Paper!repos05:20
chuckypPaper, well then what do you mean?05:21
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feresmohow can i get there05:21
feresmo???05:21
Paperones with alot of different things05:21
feresmoto -es05:21
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sooptype /j #ubuntu-es05:21
feresmowhere05:21
feresmo???05:21
soopwhere you are typing now05:21
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feresmo_feresmo is more gay than elton john05:22
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soophrm no version response from him05:22
feresmo_ey05:22
feresmook05:22
feresmothx05:22
Dr34mC0d3rim running ubuntu - but i dont remember if i installed 5.04 or 5.11 - from a command line - how can i tell?05:22
Dr34mC0d3r5.10 - oops05:22
chuckypDr34mC0d3r, uname -r05:22
defrysk cat /etc/issue05:22
chuckypyeah that would work better05:23
sooputhat gives you your kernel05:23
Dr34mC0d3rthanks05:23
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chalcedonyi'm trying to view a PDF.. i'm getting an error message. Google let me view it as html no problem, but part of one page is missing and I want to access the PDF to see if that error exists there.05:23
feresmo_eyyyyyyy05:23
soopi mean the uname -r05:23
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feresmo_holaaaaa adriii05:23
defrysk /exec cat /etc/issue05:23
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SymokHmm05:23
feresmosi si05:23
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feresmohola ferrannnnnn05:24
feresmo_adri gay05:24
feresmo_funciona??05:24
chuckyp!spanish05:24
ubotuchuckyp: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:24
chuckyp!espanol05:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp05:24
_jason!es05:24
defrysk!es05:24
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:24
feresmo_spanishh a sakoo05:24
SymokCan someone please tell me how to determine which items under /dev/ my other partitions would be located in?05:24
javiolotry lsb_release -a05:24
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feresmo / j #ubuntu-es05:24
tahooieQuestion: My monitor docs say my monitor can do 1920 x 1440 @   73Hz, but the dropdown in view resolution only goes up to 60Hz at the max res. Does anyone know where I can set this? I've been running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and have tried nearly every combination of options I can think of, and this usually just makes the monitor say 'frequency out of range' when I restart gdm. I'm running breezy. Any ideas?05:24
javioloDr3405:24
chuckypSymok, fdisk -l05:24
chalcedonythere is no #Evince .. where to ask about problems with PDFs ?05:24
gnomefreakferesmo: /join #ubuntu-es05:24
aeolistwhat's your problem soldier?05:25
chuckypSymok, sudo fdisk -l05:25
defryskwithout the space05:25
javioloDr34mC0d3r lsb_release -a05:25
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feresmo_hey  cacho gays05:25
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chalcedonywb b33r05:25
Dr34mC0d3rjaviolo - thanks05:25
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gnomefreakubotu tell tahooie  about fixres05:25
mustard5tahooie, one second..I'll get a good link for you05:26
tahooiethanks!05:26
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izmaeliswhy should I disable Gnome system sounds as it is told in Ubuntu Guide (or after applying Automatix)?05:26
gnomefreakizmaelis: dont use automatix05:26
gnomefreakdont use ubuntuguide05:26
rasputnikizmaelis: so other people in the office don't stab you to death with pencils05:26
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chalcedonyi'm serious about needing help with this PDF thing.05:26
crimsunizmaelis: it's an outdated recommendation, but some games require direct /dev/dsp access, which system sounds (or any other sounds) block05:26
gnomefreakubotu tell izmaelis about automatix05:27
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gnomefreakubotu tell izmaelis about ubuntuguide05:27
diskodavegnomefreak: hoary 'apt-get install -f' is doing lots of things ... hopefully this fixes my half-breeze dependancy issues ...05:27
chalcedonyhello Blame05:27
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defryskubotu slap izmaelis with automatix05:27
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk05:27
Blamehello05:27
crimsunizmaelis: if you're playing SDL games, you should install libsdl1.2debian-alsa if it's not installed05:27
SymokThnx. I remember reading/hearing a whileback that Linux can read from NTFS but can't write to it, is this still the case ?05:27
pulsar84chalcedony: So what exactly is your problem about PDFs?05:27
katz0rcrimsun: k, thx05:28
chalcedonypulsar84: can you see #flood ?05:28
chalcedonyi'll paste the error msg05:28
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izmaelisok, so I don't use Automatix or UbuntuGuide, but why I can get sound work properly on older machine05:28
pulsar84Symok: It's still like... let's say russian roulette to write on NTFS, although it's theoretically possible to write if you don't change file sizes.05:28
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diskodaveSymok: you can write files in situe too but, list i heard, making new files (or growing existing ones) was still a bad idea05:28
chuckyp!tell izmaelis about sound05:29
mz_workSymok: linux can write to ntfs w/ captive05:29
pulsar84chalcedony: Do.05:29
pAKOWOWOOYE ESE FERESMO TE HA LLLAMADO ADRI, FERESMO?????05:29
gnomefreak!es05:29
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:29
crimsunpAKOWOWO: dude...05:29
katz0r!tell katz0r about sound05:29
chuckyp!tell pAKOWOWO about es05:29
defryskmethings there is some spanish troll active here ;p05:29
chuckyplol05:29
SymokThree answers from three users... ~_~;;05:29
defryskspanish troll spanish troll05:29
chuckypsi05:29
gnomefreakdefrysk: i think it is05:29
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Symokall different05:29
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=== chuckyp I just keep it on the down low
pAKOWOWOoye feresmo!!!!05:30
gnomefreakthats either it or es05:30
pAKOWOWOOYE FERESMO EREES FERNANDO?????05:30
gnomefreakpAKOWOWO: italian or spanish?05:30
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pAKOWOWOspanihs05:30
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chuckypodele vatos05:30
pAKOWOWOwhy??05:30
gnomefreakpAKOWOWO: /join #ubuntu-es05:30
pAKOWOWOyes i know05:31
Nembutalboah05:31
chuckyptu madre es un queso pera05:31
gnomefreakpAKOWOWO: because this is an english only channel05:31
pAKOWOWOonly??05:31
Nembutalwhy do you talk spanish in an eglish channel?05:31
pAKOWOWOno no05:31
gnomefreakonly!!!!!!105:31
defryskgeez05:31
Nembutalthis is not america05:31
pAKOWOWOwhy not?05:31
chuckypsi engles05:31
defryskwhats geez in spanish ?05:31
SymokIll just keep my Fat32 exchange drive, then05:31
pAKOWOWOwhy not??05:31
chuckypdefrysk, jesus05:31
crimsunpAKOWOWO: this is an English-only channel, yes.05:31
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pAKOWOWOonly??05:31
defrysklol chuckyp05:31
gnomefreaki know a few words in spanish but cant spell them05:31
pAKOWOWOwhy?05:31
chuckyppAKOWOWO, Yes only05:31
pAKOWOWOspanglish05:31
crimsunpAKOWOWO: there exist localised channels like #ubuntu-es05:31
gnomefreakcan we get some help for pAKOWOWO please/05:32
defryskgnomefreak, I only know spanish gestures05:32
chuckyp!ops05:32
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee05:32
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b33rhow can I login as root in terminal?05:32
diskodavegnomefreak: right 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox' in hoary worked so im heading back to breezy now ;) 2nd time lucky05:32
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Seveaschuckyp, ?05:32
chuckyppAKOWOWO,05:32
rasputnikb33r: sudo -i05:32
defrysk!tel b33r about sudo05:32
pAKOWOWOwhat kind of help????'05:32
ubotudefrysk: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:32
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_jasonubotu: tell b33r about root05:32
defrysk!tell b33r about sudo05:32
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b33rty05:32
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b33r:)05:32
gnomefreakty we have had a crap load of spanish come in here not wanting to go to ubuntu-es05:33
tatters If two different online port scanners give me the all green no pen ports, yet ppl can connect to my server port 443 from outside my network basically is this setup correctly or am I getting an erroneous reults possibly ?05:33
chuckypand then they proceed to ask why this is an english only channel just hanging here trolling05:33
gnomefreakthat make 4 or 5 in last 1hr05:33
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javiolocrap load of spanish ?05:33
chuckyptatters, 443?05:33
tattersssl05:33
gnomefreakspanish only speakers05:33
Steve^Why is Num Lock not automatically enabled when I start Ubuntu and how can I change it?05:33
defryskjaviolo, spanish trolls05:33
p01n7tatters, use nmap05:34
chuckyptatters, did you want to shut that down?  I'm not under standing your question?05:34
javiolook..05:34
mustard5Steve44, install numlockx in synaptic05:34
mz_workSymok: captive uses winxp drivers to write to ntfs - captive-install-acquire can even do this for you if you mount up your ntfs partition05:34
gnomefreakSteve^: if it was it would be too much like windows?05:34
gnomefreaklol05:34
rasputniktatters: what does 'netstat -pant|grep 443' say?05:34
SymokIs the root password created by default? I wasn't prompted to enter one when i was installing ...05:34
gnomefreakSymok: sudo not su05:34
gnomefreakubotu tell Symok about root05:34
defrysk!tell Symok about sudo05:34
rasputnikSteve^: i think there's a button you have to press.....05:34
chuckypargh beet me to it.05:34
Steve^gnomefreak, that would make it too user friendly in this case05:34
gnomefreak;)05:34
mz_work!tell mzilikazi about root05:34
mz_work!tell mz_work about root05:34
SymokThanks05:35
defrysktell everyone about everything!05:35
gnomefreakSteve^: in your help icon it tells you how to do it very very easy05:35
Steve^rasputnik, why press it everytime i log in, when there is never a reason for it to be off (for me)?05:35
_jasoneveryone: 4205:35
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rasputnikSteve^: well if you're too lazy, i can't help :)05:35
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tatterswell I cannot shell into box everything is shutdown  and its running headless :/05:35
chuckyptatters, ssh is disabled on default install05:35
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chuckyptatters, err not listening atleast05:36
White_PrideDoes anyone know how to set up a http-server on ubuntu???05:36
mustard5Steve^, install numlockx problem solved05:36
chuckyp!tell White_Pride about lamp05:36
fell_salut05:36
gnomefreakmustard5: still have to add it to script05:36
b33rhow can I install yahoo messenger on linux?05:36
rasputniktatters: are you using some kind of proxy? maybe that runs https and you don't05:36
defryskb33r, try gaim05:36
White_PrideI dont understand lamp...05:36
gnomefreakb33r: you dont want to use gaim05:36
rasputnikWhite_Pride: that's an...interesting nick05:36
chuckyp!tell b33r about gaim05:36
Steve^gnomefreak, does this help happen to have a search function?05:36
_jasonWhite_Pride: which part don't you understand?05:36
gnomefreakok wait05:36
mz_workuser is given root privaleges in ubuntu? omg that can't be good05:36
chuckypWhite_Pride, can you not read?05:37
gnomefreakyou dont want to!!!! use gaim05:37
chuckypWhite_Pride, lamp= linux apache mysql and php install05:37
fell_comment sa vas05:37
_jasonmz_work: the first user created during the isntall is given sudo05:37
rasputnikmz_work: no, it uses sudo05:37
defrysk!fr05:37
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:37
gnomefreakSteve^: use the starter guide in your help icon05:37
chuckypWhite_Pride, if you just want apache just sudo apt-get install apache205:37
fell_salut05:37
White_PrideI dont understand how to install... I have never used linux before, until yesterday...05:37
chuckypsalut05:37
fell_salutcomment as  vas05:37
chuckypWhite_Pride, well read the apache2 part of the wiki05:37
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mz_workbut the guide says "installer will setup sudo to allow the user that is created during install to run all administrative commands."05:38
chuckypWhite_Pride, just read the message ubotu sent you it has a link to read.05:38
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mz_workso what can the user NOT do?05:38
White_Prideokey, ill try that... thnx05:38
chuckypmz_work, yes05:38
thomas__#ubuntu-meeting05:38
chuckypmz_work, user can do everything with sudo05:38
chuckypmz_work, root account is locked by default05:38
mz_workand you don't thin that's dangerous?05:38
Goldfischmz_work: User is put into a group that has sudo privileges (which can later be adjusted, if necessary).05:38
mz_workthink05:38
chuckypmz_work, no05:38
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rasputnikmz_work: do you know what sudo does? cos if not, this is a bit pointless05:39
_jasonmz_work: why is it dangerous?05:39
mz_workwell why should user be allowed to issue commands as root?05:39
tattersI have the server setup in the DMZ on my router , a scan from from one of my other boxes reveals from grc.com no open ports, I use dynds to turn my public IP into a name https;??myweb.com  when ppl type e myweb on any box outside my network they can connect05:39
Steve^sure saves me time05:39
defryskmz_work, only the main user account can use sudo other account cannot by default , unles you change the defaults05:39
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chuckypmz_work, if you don't like it you can sudo passwd give root a password and then /etc/sudo/sudoers and remove  the user fromt he file.  Then it will go back to the way your used to.05:39
gnomefreakmz_work: read the wiki ubotu sent you when you asked him too it explains it pretty clearly05:39
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Goldfischmz_work: Every command run through sudo gets logged to /var/log/auth.log. That is a better audit trail than su'ing to become root, and then doing whatever.05:39
SeveasGoldfisch, hint: sudo -i ;)05:40
Steve^and when the user is the root, it is easier05:40
chuckypmz_work, the primary user can issue commands as root.05:40
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Moe|Joehey people05:40
zlatan58g05:40
GoldfischYo, Moe|Joe05:40
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Moe|Joeanyone know the link for the ubuntu starter guide?05:40
Moe|Joei cant seem to find it05:40
chuckyp!guide05:40
ubotuchuckyp: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:40
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gnomefreakMoe|Joe: your help icon05:40
ilgufohi05:40
rasputnikMoe|Joe: it burnt down05:40
_jason!ubuntuguide05:40
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead05:40
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Blippei'm on a breezy live and are able to ping a local computer 2, but not ssh... ssh to remote from comp2 to remote and ssh back to comp2 is succesful.05:41
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rasputnikbiovore: computer 2 probably isn't running ssh05:41
chuckypBlippe, ssh is disabled by default05:41
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chuckypBlippe, the listen that is.05:41
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defryskMoe|Joe, http://help.ubuntu.com/05:41
Moe|Joeah ideal :D05:41
chuckypBlippe, eidt /etc/ssh/ssh_config05:41
Moe|Joecheers05:41
Moe|Joealso05:41
defryskMoe|Joe, unlogical I know ;p05:42
Moe|Joecan someone help me with install ndiswrapper via apt-get?05:42
Blippebut the computer i am trying to reach is reachable from a remote place!05:42
chuckypBlippe, s/eidt/edit05:42
_jasonubotu: tell Moe|Joe about ndiswrapper05:42
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chuckypBlippe, maybe clear the ssh keys then05:42
rasputnikBlippe: sorry missed that. firewall then I guess?05:42
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GoldfischSeveas: I just read the sudo man page, and must confess that the reason for using "-i" was confusing and did not leap off the page at me.05:42
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Blipperasputnik, no firewall05:42
feresmo_hey....05:42
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feresmo_Im here now again05:43
Subhumanhi, im having some networking problems, it's not that the connection is down (Im using it now), but the speed is terrible, firefox times out loading google etc... however apt seems to work at normal speed and IRC works fine? Anyone heard of something similar? It's not the router as windows worked fine.05:43
rasputnikBlippe: then check your sshd_config file, there are ways to restrict access by ip address05:43
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feresmo_PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW I CAN ENTER TO UBUNTU-ES05:43
soopSubhuman: trace to the www host you are trying to reach05:43
chuckypGoldfisch, it uses the users root instead of roots root05:43
Goldfisch!es05:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:43
_jasonferesmo_: type: /join #ubuntu-es05:43
chuckypGoldfisch, er path05:43
Subhumank ill do it and show you.05:43
defryskferesmo_,  /j #ubuntu-es05:43
feresmo_THANKS JASON05:43
chuckypGoldfisch, lets try this again -i will use your users path -s will use roots path05:44
feresmo_SPANISH POWER!!!05:44
soopcasteyano05:44
GrarkHello everyone, What's the favorite Ubuntu FTP Server?  Or a way to transfer files remotely to my pc?05:44
chuckypGoldfisch, if that makes sence05:44
CarlFKBlippe: how many boxes in your ping/ssh and back thing?05:44
feresmo_ESO SOOP ESPAOL05:44
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soopGrark: whats the originating point?05:44
Goldfischchuckyp: Okay. I haven't needed that, yet.05:44
gnomefreak!es05:44
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:44
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soopun poco05:44
feresmo_ADIOS05:44
BlippeCarlFK,  direct link...05:44
Grarksoop, work (XP) to home (Ubuntu)05:44
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soopGrark: install ssh05:45
M_A_KI am running Breezy and have been trying for hours to get tftpd running. Has anybody been successful with it?05:45
chuckypGrark, vsftp05:45
soopthen use coreftp from xp to linux box05:45
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Subhumansoop, i tried tracepath, and i get to my router and then no replu05:45
GoldfischGood thing I'm not going to -es channel. Gonna' be a lot of YELLING over there soon. :)05:45
CarlFKBlippe: um..   not extra... you mentioned remote and remote2, but I have a feeling there are 3 all together05:45
soopcoreftp = free windows scp client05:45
chuckyp!tell M_A_K about anyone05:45
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Grarksoop, see, now you're scaring me :)05:45
soopSubhuman: try tracertoute05:45
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Goldfischputty = free window scp/sftp/ssh client. ;)05:45
Grarkchuckyp, is that a server as well?05:45
Subhumanthe router seems to be acting strange for linux?05:45
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CarlFKBlippe: basicaly restate that using boxA, boxB... for all the machines05:46
Steve^When I hit ctrl-alt-backspace, I am left with just the command line. How do I get the gnome desktop back up? Is it just 'startx'?05:46
Subhumani only seem to have traceroute6, isnt that for ip6?05:46
BlippeCarlFK no i tried one remote, ssh there and back05:46
mikeloi can't read ms asf videos05:46
GoldfischSteve^: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:46
gnomefreakSteve^: startx05:46
chuckypGrark, thats what I thought you where asking use vsftp can be an ftp server damaen05:46
soopSteve^: alt-f705:46
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crimsunSubhuman: use tracepath05:46
chuckypGrark, do apt-cache search vsftp05:46
Subhumancrimsun, i did.05:46
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Steve^thanks thanks thanks05:46
gnomefreakSteve^: pick your posion ;)05:46
Subhumani get to my router then no reply.05:46
M_A_Kchuckyp : whats up with anyone?05:46
chuckypGrark, if you are looking for a client who knows05:46
Blippetwo boxes here, direct link. The one I am trying to reach is reachable from remote!05:46
GoldfischSteve^: gdm runs startx for you.05:46
chuckypM_A_K, read what ubotu told you.05:47
crimsunSubhuman: your isp probably blocks, then05:47
Blippetwo nics in the one I am trying to reach05:47
Steve^Goldfisch, but it requires more typing :P05:47
chuckypBlippe, firewall?05:47
gnomefreakalt-f7 brings you back to current session05:47
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mz_workwell i just can't agree with the sudo logic for ubuntu05:47
Grarkchuckyp, "client who knows?"05:47
Subhumancrimsun, okay but then how does the router work fine with windows?05:47
mz_workthink i'll stick w/ real debian05:47
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michael117Is there a GUI tool out there to easily edit your fstab and mount partitions with?05:47
CarlFKBlippe: so if you can ssh there and back, what is the problem?05:47
M_A_KAh, I didnt even see teh little window that opened. I get it ... thanks.05:47
chuckypGrark, just type ftp in terminal for a client05:47
Blippechuckyp,  no firewall, how did i restart sshd again?05:47
crimsunSubhuman: "work fine"?05:47
GoldfischSteve^: Build those fingers of steel!05:47
Subhumani mean packets are packets arent they? doesnt matter what OS I use, this is a friends pc too and im on the same isp and have no problems in linux05:47
soopmz_work: pfft ... you don't know what you are missing05:48
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Subhumanlol work fine as in connects, downloads etc.05:48
soopsubhuman, its only www that is giving you issues right?05:48
Goldfischsudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart <--- restarts ssh server.05:48
Subhumanyes, seems so.05:48
Blippethe one box i want to call from (locally) suceeds to ping but not ssh05:48
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Aarohihey guys. i can't use the 'make' command on ubuntu.. it says the command doesnt exist. how do i compile without the make command? some help please..05:48
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fell_salllutt05:48
soopsub, have you tried removing his router from the equationa nd just plugging in directly?05:48
chuckypBlippe, to restart it try sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart05:48
hypa7iaAarohi: sudo ap-get install build-essentials05:48
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GoldfischAarohi: You probably need the build tools. sudo apt-get install build-essential05:48
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soopaaroni: you have to get the development package05:48
Subhumanbut i cant figure out why, like even on the time sync it fails.05:48
gnomefreaksudo apt-get isntall build-essential05:48
Aarohikk thanks guys05:48
hypa7iaAarohi: oops, minus the s on the end :)05:48
gnomefreakinstall05:48
Grarksvftp seems like it wil do the trick05:49
fell_salut05:49
Subhumanim i cant really remove it, have no other modem.05:49
chuckypgnomefreak, I was diggin xgl earlier today05:49
Grarkchuckyp, I'm new so gui is preferred.05:49
chuckypgnomefreak, like the f12 or window display05:49
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soopok, so your wan modem is plugged directly into the machine?05:49
gnomefreakchuckyp: its ok i gave up becasue it cant do what i want it to05:49
chuckypGrark, well you can always use synaptic and search for ftp and hunt arround.05:49
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Blippestill pingable no ssh!05:49
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gnomefreakthat and my synaptic issue05:49
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xoan_afrogayhy05:49
chuckypgnomefreak, know of a good gui ftp client05:50
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gnomefreakgftp?05:50
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xoan_afrogayhow can I kick somoone????????05:50
chuckypGrark, there okay there ya go gftp05:50
soopxoan_afrogay: you can't05:50
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GoldfischBlippe: ps -ef | grep sshd <---- any hint of an ssh daemon running?05:50
gnomefreakxoan_afrogay: you cant05:50
M_A_KOk so here goes.  I have been trying to get tftpd running so I can copy configs from routers and switches, but have had no success.  I seem to be unable to get tftpd running properly or at all.  I need some help.  I just got some help from #linuxhelp and still no luck.05:50
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zekafredoore05:50
xoan_afrogaybut Some one kicks me05:50
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gnomefreakxoan_afrogay: there had to have been a reason05:50
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CarlFKBlippe: if no ssh, then what do you mean ", ssh there and back" ?05:50
Grarkchuckyp, I installed svftp through synaptic...now I just have to find where it installed it :)05:50
chuckypxoan_afrogay, kick some one from where?05:50
xoan_afrogayAnd I have a reason too05:50
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chuckypGrark, type in terminal which svftp05:51
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xoan_afrogayfrom ubuntu-s05:51
jaramillogr, i hate this sounds problems05:51
jaramillothese*05:51
hypa7iaM_A_K: tftpd is a pain to get running.  have you edited the config yet?  i remember that you need to to even get it to start05:51
Aarohihypa7ia, Goldfisch, there is no such package as 'build-essentials'05:51
chuckypGrark, it should be in /usr/bin/svftp or whateve rthe name of the app is.05:51
crimsunjaramillo: what sound problems?05:51
Qixhi - I've been trying for ages to get my ati gfx card (9600XT) to work under a fresh install of ubuntu 5.1005:51
Blippei ssh to the university and ssh back, that works, i try to ssh from another local to the first local, doesn't work05:51
GoldfischAarohi: You probably need the build tools. sudo apt-get install build-essential05:51
Qixit just doesnt work, i mean... i try:05:51
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gnomefreakxoan_afrogay: take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue05:51
gnomefreakplease*05:51
Grarkchuckyp, odd, when I typed "which svftp" it didn't do anything05:51
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Qix/usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc ++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:51
Aarohithere is no such package Goldfisch05:51
GoldfischAarohi: Not what I typed. :)05:51
M_A_Ki edited the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp file and it seems to look ok.05:51
hypa7iaAarohi: what version of ubu are you running?05:51
Qix(libstdc++.5 doesnt exist, anywhere)05:51
chuckypBlippe, because its not listening on 22 on the internal nic only on the external perhaps?05:51
Aarohibreezy05:51
soopholy scroll05:51
xoan_afrogayey gnome...He kicks me only for enter05:52
jaramilloi upgraded to dapper a few days ago, everything was fine, this morning i did updated a few files, rebooted and now i dont have sound05:52
chuckypGrark, did you mena you installed vsftp?05:52
xoan_afrogaymen...teach me05:52
GoldfischAarohi: No "s" on the end.05:52
Grarkchuckyp, yes via synaptic05:52
Aarohik05:52
nickrudQix, no period in it05:52
Subhumansoop,  i have a vigor router, with a direct connection to the net, and im connected via ethernet to it, in windows i have no problems, but in linux, it seems to be http which is having a problem, although apt works fine.05:52
Qixroot@qix:~/Desktop# ./ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy05:52
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Qix - gives me:::::::::;;05:52
jaramillojavier@noms:~$ alsamixer -> No mixer elems found05:52
crimsunjaramillo: none, not even with the gdm greeter?05:52
gnomefreakjaramillo: hence the term testing/unstable05:52
Qix./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 51: dpkg-architecture: command not foundError: unsupported architecture:05:52
chuckypGrark, and if you want to set vsftp up your config will be in like /etc/vsftp.conf or /etc/vsftp/vsftp.conf something similiar05:52
Qixi mean, wtf does that mean ?05:52
jaramillonope, not even with the gdm greeter05:52
hypa7iaAarohi: build-essential - informational list of build-essential packages05:52
crimsunjaramillo: pastebin output from lsmod && cat /proc/asound/cards05:52
chuckypGrark, vsftp is a ftp server05:52
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chuckyp!vsftp05:52
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ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp05:52
chalcedonydarn.. Lynx just didn't show the 'continued on page.." and didn't work with Evince.05:52
gnomefreakQix: please stay on topic05:52
Qixis there any way to just get a package with the ati files ?05:52
Grarkchuckyp, yes that's exactly what I needed.05:53
Qixgnomefreak, whats the topic ?05:53
gnomefreakubotu tell Qix about ati05:53
Qixits all related to my issue ;/05:53
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Aarohik hypa7ia .. i tried essentials earlier, instead of essential05:53
Grarkchuckyp, thank you05:53
gnomefreakQix: type /topic05:53
gnomefreakwtf is not related to anything for ubuntu05:53
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Aarohiworking.. thanks hypa7ia Goldfisch05:53
Grarkodd...no files found.05:53
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chuckypGrark, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371&highlight=vsftp  is usefull for you also05:53
jaramillohere http://rafb.net/paste/results/UZTP6135.html05:53
nickrudQix, the dpkg-arch error means you need to install build-essential05:53
hypa7iaM_A_K: double-check that config, it's finnicky05:54
Grarkchuckyp, gimme a few minutes to figure this out, thanks for the point in the right direction05:54
chuckypGrark, np05:54
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CarlFKBlippe: your box names are less than crystal clear.  is this correct: ": i ssh from BoxA to BoxB (the university) and ssh from BoxB back to BoxA, that works, i try to ssh from BoxC (another local) to BoxA (the first local), doesn't work" ?05:54
crimsunjaramillo: oh, that's simple. Does ``alsamixer -c1'' work?05:54
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M_A_KI am not sure what it should look like.05:54
jaramilloyeah05:54
chuckypCarlFK, its because he has two nics one internal one external and internal nic isn't listening on port 2205:54
BlippeCarlFK exactly05:55
gnomefreakCarlFK: that even confused me :(05:55
gnomefreaklol05:55
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CarlFKok, we are getting somewhere...05:55
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ChodderWhats the option you put in your X config to disable taps on a touchpad?  I can't remember...05:56
chuckypCarlFK, atleast thats the only thing I can think of that would cause this but an edit of /etc/ssh/ssh_config would set him straight.05:56
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M_A_Khypia7ia : where can I get a sample to see what it *should* look like?05:56
crimsunjaramillo: the problem is straightforward to resolve. When you plugged in your usb webcam, it took over. You need to make sure it doesn't do that. At the cli, echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base05:56
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Blippei'm gonna try to get ssh deamons running on the both local machines...05:56
chuckyp!synaptics05:56
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soopanyone know of a script that will convert an html form submission into a pdf?05:56
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp05:56
CarlFKif BoxA has 2 nics and BoxB is on one and BoxC on the other,   then i agree: sshd not listening on the BoxB side nic05:56
chuckyp!mittens05:56
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ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp05:56
chuckyplol05:56
gnomefreakwhy does he keep comming in and leaving05:56
tU_VES_XOANTeyyy please   Someone banned me for a channelll!!!!!!!05:56
Chodderchuckyp, it's just a simple option05:56
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setog3lut05:56
tU_VES_XOANTey chuckyp05:56
gnomefreaktU_VES_XOANT: talk to the people in that channel05:57
chuckypChodder, i dunno googly for synaptic disable touch05:57
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chuckyp!fr05:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:57
Chodderchuckyp, i have :/05:57
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chuckypChodder, let me search see what I can find hold up05:57
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jonatashello05:57
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Grarkok grark's an idiot.05:57
Chodderchuckyp, nvm05:58
Grarkhas to get the name of the app right :|05:58
crimsunjaramillo: then, if you don't wish to reboot, simply log out of GNOME, log into a virtual console, then ``sudo modprobe -r snd-usb-audio snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 snd-usb-audio''05:58
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jaramillo;o05:58
jaramillok05:58
Chodderchuckyp, I think I remember it, it's like maxtaptime=0 or something05:58
jaramillolet me try it05:58
chuckypChodder, Option "SHMConfig" "on"  and Option "MaxTapTime "0"05:58
jaramillothx <305:58
chuckypChodder, yeah maxtaptime 0 should be all you need05:58
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Chodderyup05:58
chuckypdisregard the first one shouldn't be needed05:58
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gazanferanyone knows a good lightweight allaround media player? (to play avi/mpg/mp3/wav/ogg/etc..)06:00
ChodderVLC :P06:00
gnomefreakubotu tell gazanfer about mplayer06:00
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Mr_Spiffgazanfer: second that VLC06:01
Blippegnomefreak, does the new (dapper) ubuntu have an option to install to harddrvie from the live cd?06:01
SubhumanZOMG LOLZWTF06:01
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crimsunBlippe: yes.06:01
Subhumanokay my dns is the problem.06:01
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Mr_Spiffi like vlc with vc1 built in06:01
Blippecrimsun, i freaking love you all!06:01
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Subhumanwhich is odd since i dont have a problem in win, so anyone know why linux shits on my dns?06:01
ChodderVLC is great, but obviously illegal06:02
k0ckSubhuman: what do u mean?06:02
ChodderUnless it's developed in canada or something06:02
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BlippeI'm gonna install hoary, get sshd up and running get the iso for dapper, burn it and reinstall... excellent plan!06:02
LinuxJonesSubhuman: it's probably because of ipv6 support being loaded06:02
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chuckypBlippe, why?06:03
Aarohione of the packages i'm installing wants me to have libid3tag.. i do have libid3tag0 installed, and there is no libid3tag in the list in synaptic.. what can i do?06:03
chuckypAarohi, what package are you trying to install and from where?06:04
b33ris there a software for linux like winamp?06:04
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Blippeseveral reasons, one of them being that i can't burn a cd when the livecd is in the cdtray06:04
_jasonb33r: I like beep-media-player06:04
Aarohichuckyp, xmms now playing plugin06:04
Aarohifrom sf.net06:04
mustard5Aarohi, I see it in synaptic for breezy06:04
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crimsunArnald: you need the -dev package06:05
b33r_jason, how can I install it?06:05
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Aarohimustard5, libid3tag?06:05
crimsunArnald: (if you're attempting to compile the program)06:05
Arnaldcrimsun: not me06:05
_jasonb33r: enable universe and install the beep-media-player package using synaptic06:05
crimsunArnald: sorry06:05
mustard5Aarohi,06:05
mustard5libid3tag0-dev yep06:05
_jasonubotu: tell b33r about universe06:05
Arnald;)06:05
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LinuxJonesSubhuman: you can turn off ipv6 support by editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and near the top in the first section make the line look like this >> alias net-pf-10 off ipv6      Save te file and run sudo update-modules then re-boot your computer, dns should be quicker once you've done that.06:05
Aarohimustard5, not libid3tag0-dev, its asking for libid3tag06:06
Aarohiis it the same one?06:06
mustard5Aarohi, thats the package you need yes06:06
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diskodavegnomefreak: dist-upgrade ran to completion ;) bam! cheers dude06:06
hubertSalut  tous ;) je dcouvre l'IRC en direct grce  ubuntu en connexion 56K (!) a marche... Hallucinant...06:06
Aarohiokay.. thank you mustard506:06
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Aarohii'll try it out06:06
mustard5Aarohi, if you have dependency problems compiling..its often a -dev package that is needed06:06
defrysk!fr06:06
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:06
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Aarohii see06:06
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ccc_Chodder: illegal? maybe in usa, but i couldn't care less for their retarded laws. it is mainly a french project, but has devs all over.06:06
ChodderI could care less either06:07
robinl1i need a full HOWTO on playing windows games on Ubuntu and generally Linux, can somebody help me/06:07
robinl1?06:07
Chodder:)06:07
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chuckypITS NOT ILLEGAL IF YOU HAVE A LEGIT COPY OF WINDOWS.  why does no one get this06:07
mustard5Aarohi, you can use the apt-cache search <keyword>   .....to search for stuff06:07
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PuMpErNiCkLerobinl1: They have stuff like that - generally, they have specific ones for each game - over at www.winehq.com06:07
ChodderI've never been one to care for copyright06:07
chuckyp;ljkasj;lk asd;ljk vjk laj kav I need a smoke06:07
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chuckyp^^^ me slamming on my keyboard06:07
Chodderchuckyp, wtf are you talking about?06:07
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_jasonhow come mplayer is in multiverse (as opposed to universe)?06:08
jaramillothx guys, everything's fine ;)06:08
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monroehey there06:09
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GoldfischChodder: Well, ubuntu is copyrighted. Just not the same type as certain other products.....06:09
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ChocoboHello monroe06:09
ChodderGPL :)06:09
j2daoshgot a problem... i cant seem to log into my network... it is asking me for a password... i put it in and it just asks me for it again. i know the password is correct because it worked when i first set it up06:09
aragornhi at all06:09
Wizz_kiddhow cna i view .mpeg in ubuntu06:09
j2daoshwhy would it not accept it now?06:09
Wizz_kiddwhat package do i need06:09
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monroehi chocobo06:09
Chodder!win32codecs06:10
uboturumour has it, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/06:10
_jasonubotu: tell Wizz_kidd about multimedia06:10
j2daoshi recently did a reinstall of the windows xp os on my upstairs box (the one im trying to connect to). does that have anything to do with it?06:10
oblihey, can I get some newbie ubuntu support here?06:10
j2daoshmaybe because the ip addy of the box changed?06:10
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Wizz_kiddis there an actual package name i can DL off synaptic06:10
jbroomej2daosh: windows firewall?06:10
monroeI just ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and now my mouse touch pad is moving VERY slow, any ideas?06:10
_jasonWizz_kidd: check your private messages06:10
j2daoshdamnit06:10
j2daoshyeah06:10
j2daoshand that is probably it06:10
Goldfischj2daosh: Remote or console login?06:10
jbroomej2daosh: :)06:11
j2daoshniether06:11
PuMpErNiCkLeWizz_kidd: totem-xine and/or w32codecs06:11
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j2daoshim just trying to get to the hard drive06:11
j2daosh"mapping"06:11
chuckypj2daosh, yeah just turn off window firewall and use smbclient06:11
j2daoshwait... it is off06:11
hartzobli - I'll try to answer any questions :-)06:11
chuckypthen just browse to the network share06:11
Grark!vsftp06:11
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Grark06:11
j2daoshim trying06:11
j2daoshthats what asks me for my password06:11
oblihartz, I have this NTFS partition I've realized I can't use, so I'm going to convert to to a linux file system06:12
michael117Is there a GUI tool out there to easily edit your fstab and mount partitions with?06:12
PuMpErNiCkLemonroe: system -> prefs -> mouse -> motion -> sensitivity?06:12
psycho_oreostry pressing enter instead06:12
j2daoshenter06:12
obliI went into the disk manager, converted it, but when I go back it still says NTFS06:12
j2daoshwont let me06:12
mustard5michael117, not that I know of for ubuntu06:12
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gnomefreak_jason: its in multiverse because not a huge user base i think06:12
obliI don't care about the data, all my mp3s can be recovered from my ipod, and the movies were already watched :)06:12
psycho_oreosj2daosh: what about a no user/password field?06:13
hartzobli ... go  on ....06:13
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TuxMeisterhey guys06:13
gazanferhow can i let apt-get to install not only dependencies but also suggested packages?06:13
obliwell, I want to use the disk, as mounting an ntfs drive apparently didn't work very well06:13
j2daoshnope... now its telling me i have to log into linux (the computer im using right now)06:13
obliit had UTF characters in it06:13
TuxMeisteranybody could tell me if this chipset "Broadcom BCM4318" is supported by ubuntu (latest version)?06:13
obli()06:13
monroepumpernickle: I did that, it works for the knob in the keyboard, but not the touch pad06:13
gnomefreakgazanfer: man apt-get but i dont remember ever comming across flags for that06:14
psycho_oreosobli: you can temporarily copy the data elsewhere and then format that partition/disk. Once done, you copy the data back06:14
Goldfischgazanfer: Well, first cancel the initial apt-get command. Then kick off the command again, this time listing the other ones you want as well.06:14
mustard5gazanfer, interesting question...hmmm..I'll have to check that one out06:14
_jasongnomefreak: I though multiverse was reserved for things that weren't open source, so I thought that maybe a part of mplayer was (maybe a codec)06:14
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PuMpErNiCkLemonroe: odd06:14
oblipsycho_oreos, will try, thanks06:14
hartzobli> Does th disk need to remain as an NTFS disk?06:14
j2daosh... man... this is pissing me off06:14
robinl1PuMpErNiCkLe: who have lots of stuff like that?06:14
oblino, not really06:14
Genfoowhat mode do I need to chmod so I users will not be able to delete files?06:14
Goldfisch_jason: Depending on which, there is also restricted.06:14
robinl1PuMpErNiCkLe: and like what?06:14
gazanferGoldfisch, i didnt get it... can you explain please?06:14
obliI think I've already messed it up anywya06:14
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Genfoochmod 700 ?06:14
zoonk://06:15
Genfoo644?06:15
psycho_oreosj2daosh: still no go? ok, is windows the host?06:15
gnomefreak_jason: maybe for some reason i remember reading something about they move repos as they become more demanded but the codecs is a good one06:15
hartzobli Then I echo physo-oreos06:15
Goldfischgazanfer: Can you give me a package you tried, and one of the suggested ones?06:15
k_uusubatuhas anyone had any success transferring songs from rhthymbox to an ipod?06:15
monroepumpernickle: yes, I agree06:15
setog3Hi , can I found an ubuntu cdrom with french package ?06:15
obliok, I'll give it a try06:15
psycho_oreosobli: you should have the disk unmounted before any conversion is taking place, etc06:15
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j2daoshyep06:15
hartzobli > But if you don't have the space to copy all the data elsewhere, I suggest back it up to CD or DVD.06:15
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gazanferGoldfisch, package is vlc, and one of the suggested is lirc06:15
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defryskk_uusubatu, I have an Iaudio G206:15
psycho_oreosj2daosh: and can other windows box see and access teh shares?06:15
defryskit rules06:15
psycho_oreoss/teh/the06:15
Genfoomaybe chmod -t ?06:15
gnomefreaksetog3: you set the lanugage you want during install06:16
gnomefreakGenfoo: man chmod06:16
Goldfischgazanfer: Okay, when you first try sudo apt-get install vlc, you then see lirc listed. Ctrl-C to break out of the your current command. Then type "sudo apt-get install vlc lirc". That will install both of the packages.06:16
chuckypgnomefreak, do you know how to make a correction to ubotu?06:16
k_uusubaturhthymbox sees the ipod, but when I drag songs to it, nothing happens, but I am able to transfer songs in amarok06:16
gnomefreakchuckyp: i hate when things start off like that lol whats up?06:16
gazanferGoldfisch, thank  you. so i must do it manually :)06:17
chuckypgnomefreak, go to +106:17
Genfoognomefreak -_- ok06:17
hubertSetog, bien sr tu peux trouver sur le cd ubuntu les paquets en franais...06:17
s|kI'm trying to install the mplayer-plugin and during configuration it's telling me I'm missing gthread, don't I have glib installed out of the box?06:17
Goldfischgazanfer: As far as I know. If you automated that, your system would probably HUGE based on the number of suggestions.06:17
Goldfischprobably grow HUGE06:17
psycho_oreos!tell hubert about fr06:17
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robinl1i need a full HOWTO on playing windows games on Ubuntu and generally Linux, can somebody help me/06:17
meborc!wine06:18
psycho_oreosrobinl1: doubt that would be easily found06:18
s|kanyone?06:18
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meborcrobinl1 - try searching ubuntuforums.org ... there is a section called gaming06:18
k_uusubatuis there any other package I need to install in order to transfer songs to an ipod in dapper?06:18
_jasons|k: mplayer plugin is in the repos as mozilla-mplayer06:18
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Stormx2robinl1: You'll want cedega or wine. What games?06:18
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TuxMeisteranybody could tell me if this chipset "Broadcom BCM4318" is supported by ubuntu (latest version)? if not, just say no, and i lose no more time around here, please06:19
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j2daoshbbiaf phone06:20
gazanferbye all06:20
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martynHi all06:21
martyndoes any 1 know how to install a soundblaster 24 bit sound card06:21
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hartzwhat is dapper?06:22
b33rdo I need an antivirus or firewall for linux?06:22
_jason!dapper06:22
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion06:22
chuckypb33r, thats up to you06:22
blekosdapper is the new ubuntu06:22
blekos:)06:22
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blekoship hip horey06:22
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s|knot out yet :(06:22
blekoswell just about...06:22
b33rchuckyp, is it safe to use without it?06:22
blekos36 days and counting06:22
s|karen't they going to put it off blekos ?06:22
blekosnop06:23
_jasonb33r: you don't need an antivirus unless you run a mail server for windows users imo.  You don't really need a firewall either on a default install, but it won't hurt06:23
s|kdelay the release to june is what I read06:23
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psycho_oreosb33r: primarily firewire is important, antivirus is only to scan files that are destined for win32 boxes, etc06:23
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blekosreally??06:23
blekosgrrr06:23
chuckypb33r, depends on how paranoid you are I guess.  But most systems that are targeted are windows in my eyes atleast.  You won't find many linux viruses.06:23
blekosi'm using it since realese4 its great...06:23
hartzThen I should not have ordered a bunch of CDs a few weeks ago :-(  Why another release so soon?  What is dapper about?06:23
b33rok thnx06:23
s|kb33r I use firestarter06:23
s|k!firestarter06:23
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.06:23
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blekosapart from the fact i cannot sync my palmotp which drive me to use win...06:23
psycho_oreoslinux virus only occurs if one is stupid/ignorant/blind about it06:24
_jasonhartz: scheduled to release in april but it may be postponed 6 weeks06:24
gnomefreak35 more mins :(06:24
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s|kif during a configure gthread wasn't found (part of glib) should I not 'make' ?06:25
s|kI have glib06:25
s|kI don't know why it's not fidning it06:25
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blekosthe problem with the ubuntu1 channel is that u can hardly find anyone there or get any answer :(06:25
gnomefreakblekos: i didnt see you ask anything im sorry06:25
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psycho_oreosblekos: being on the bleeding edge does have its problems :)06:26
blekosi've tried again gnome freek06:26
chuckypblekos, thats because its ubuntu+106:26
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blekosand again...06:26
s|kanyone?06:26
gnomefreakblekos: i havent seen it please try again i can only scroll so far06:26
HappyFools|k: you've installed libglib2.0-dev ?06:26
blekosgnome freak maybe u can help me with this one06:26
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chuckyp!ask06:27
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mikebothas anyone gotten any p2p other than torrenting to work well in ubuntu?06:27
SubhumanHey LinuxJones thats for the help06:27
chuckypmikebot, yeah06:27
gnomefreakblekos: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper related issues im in there so if i can help i will06:27
mikebotchuckyp: which?06:27
blekosthe current version of kernel 2.6.15-16-386(i'm using dd) does not include the usbserial module06:27
chuckypmikebot, amule06:27
LinuxJonesSubhuman: no problem :)06:27
SubhumanInternet is as quick as it hsoudl be now.06:27
mikebotchuckyp: i heard that that was really slow06:27
blekoshow can i load modules on a kernel?06:27
chuckypmikebot, not for me.06:27
SubhumanBut the second problem now is gaim wont connect06:27
LinuxJonesSubhuman: good to hear06:27
psycho_oreosblekos: modprobe or insmod06:28
mikebotchuckyp: okay, i'll try it...sudo apt-get install amule>06:28
_jasonmikebot: frostwire works well for me06:28
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Subhumani didnt connect before nor does it connect now06:28
s|kHappyFool: no :006:28
chuckypblekos, and rmmod to remove it.06:28
s|kHappyFool: do I need that?06:28
blekosbasically i do not have a /device/usb folder06:28
mikebot_jason: i couldn't conncet to frostwire, and could get help with it06:28
blekosi'll try that06:28
HappyFools|k: to compile glib-related stuff, yes06:28
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HappyFools|k: what are you compiling?06:28
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obliok, that didn06:28
chuckypblekos, it may be under /dev/sd?  or something goofy I saw people reporting06:28
obli't work very well06:28
chuckypblekos, try lsusb etc..06:28
s|kHappyFool: the latest version of the mplayer-plugin06:28
_jasonmikebot: maybe a firewall issue?  it just worked as soon as I installed it here06:28
obliMy NTFS partition is still alive and well06:29
laurisimaHi06:29
obli>:(06:29
mikebot_jason: don't have a firewall06:29
psycho_oreosobli: what did you convert from and to?06:29
chuckypobli, what do you want to do get rid of it?06:29
andbeloI am trying to print files as .pdf... What is the best drive to print .pdf files from applications?06:29
SubhumanYeah so my gaim wont connect, any idea. It connected only 2 times in the last 2 days?06:29
HappyFools|k: hrm. not an ubuntu package?06:29
_jasonmikebot: router?06:29
laurisimahow many code lines have got the ubuntu06:29
laurisima?06:29
blekoshmm, with lsusb i get Bus 006 ... etc06:29
mikebot_jason: nope06:29
chuckypandbelo, best drive?  best app maybe?06:29
HappyFools|k: i was going to recommend 'apt-get build-dep', but that only works if the thing you're compiling exists in ubuntu06:29
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obliyes, screw the data, I won't bother connecting it to my other computer for saving06:29
psycho_oreoslaurisima: more than several billion lines of different coding :p06:30
blekosbasically I'm trying to locate where on earth my ipaq connect so i can get sync06:30
_jasons|k: try apt-get build-dep mozilla-mplayer, and if you still need things take a look at the README file06:30
obliI'm just converting to anything linux doesn't hate06:30
chuckypblekos, is your device showing up in lsusb06:30
mikebot_jason: oh no no, i did get frostwire working, i had to put in a username and password--but when i searched i got like 3 responces06:30
s|kHappyFool: the ubuntu package is 4 versions out of date and runs terribly06:30
mikebotresponses*06:30
obliSo I can use my secondary hard drive06:30
laurisimahello guys06:30
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_jasonmikebot: oh, maybe it's just a rare file06:30
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laurisimai wanted to know06:30
chuckypobli, fat3206:30
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laurisimahow many lines has the source code of UBUNTU06:30
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mikebot_jason: no i would search generic things like one word queries06:30
s|k_jason: I have that, it doesn't run well, so I'm upgrading to the recent release06:30
oblichuckyp, fine by me, but how? :(06:30
blekosyes06:30
andbeloYes, can be. My idea was to find an application that worked as a printer...06:31
_jasons|k: take a look at my command closely :)06:31
HappyFools|k: anyway, most libraries (including glib) comes in two packages, one normal and one for development (ending in -dev). You'll probably need a few -dev packages to get this compiled. Read the README/INSTALL files in the source tree to find out what06:31
laurisimaor where i can find that information06:31
s|k_jason: oh yes06:31
psycho_oreosobli: you first unmount the partition/disk, use fdisk and change the partition/disk type. Use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat to make it readable and mountable under windows/linux. Mount it, and you are set06:31
chuckypobli, you want to keep the data and convert to fat32 right?06:31
_jasonmikebot: don't know then06:31
laurisimamariconasos06:31
s|kHappyFool: okay thanks :)06:31
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HappyFools|k: I recommend 'apt-cache search "name.*dev"' and packages.ubuntu.com to help you find the right libs06:31
chuckypobli, or the data doesn't matter on it?06:31
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oblichuckyp, If possible, but I'm not going to bother connecting it to another computer to save the data06:31
lakcajlaurisima, ubuntu is just a collection of programs including the linux kernel and many other programs that run on top of it.  If you want to know how many lines there are in the kernel, go to kernel.org and download one yourself.06:31
mikebothowd o i search for packages in terminal?06:31
_jasonmikebot: apt-cache search06:32
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s|k_jason: I got it, thank you :)06:32
blekosbut if i follow the instructions for synce, I am supposed 2 c, smg like /devices/USB/ttyUSB0, in order to sync it with evolution etch06:32
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obliI can't access it right now due to invalid UTF coding or something like that (foreign letters, )06:32
blekosetc06:32
chuckypobli, well you could mount the ntfs partition copy the data to your nix drive.  if you have the space.  Then partition the ntfs drive for fat32.06:32
laurisimathanks man06:32
_jasons|k: you've installed build-essential?06:32
chuckypobli, and format mount it and move the data back.06:32
mikebot_jason: thanks06:32
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kdombmikebot, there are a lot of ubuntu users on slsk using nicotine06:32
psycho_oreosobli: under linux?06:32
obliyeah06:33
chuckypblekos, I don't have a lot of experience with usb.  What type of device is it?06:33
psycho_oreosobli: set the mount option to include 'iocharset=utf8' (save it into /etc/fstab), unmount it and remount it06:33
blekosan hp ipaq06:33
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obliwill try06:33
chuckypblekos, k06:33
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blekoswell, i modprobe ipaq & usbserial06:34
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cyphasewhy doesn't ubuntu set the hostname on my router06:34
andbelochuckyp, mistyping.... 'driver' I'am looking for an application to install that works like a printer to generate .pdf files.06:34
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cyphasei have to go in manually to change it06:35
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chuckypblekos, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24805&highlight=%22hp+ipaq%2206:35
chuckypandbelo, hold up let me check06:35
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cyphasei've tried it with a friends windows laptop. it sets the name, and the router doesn't let me change it06:35
oblipsycho_oreos, this may seem like a stupid question, but how do I edit it, I can't get into the root account06:35
blekosi'll try it chukup06:36
gnomefreakobli: you cant use sudo?06:36
berndhi i have a problem with my mysql did anybody know what do to with this?06:36
oblijust "sudo (command)" ?06:36
psycho_oreosobli: yes06:36
berndStopping MySQL database server: mysqld.06:36
berndStarting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.06:36
bernd        Please take a look at the syslog.06:36
bernd/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed06:36
bernderror: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'06:36
berndCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!06:36
oblioh ^^06:36
gnomefreakobli: sudo egedit <path/to/file06:36
psycho_oreosbernd: ask in #mysql06:36
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berndok06:36
gnomefreakbernd: please dont paste in here use pastebin06:37
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bddebianHey folks06:37
ChocoboIs there a way to clean (remove) all downloaded packages that are currently just using up disk space?06:37
obliok, how do I unmount/mount it06:37
_jasonbernd: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please, and what caused that to happen?06:37
gnomefreaksudo gedit even06:37
s|k_jason: that made it work :D06:37
chuckypanbelo, cups-pdf maybe?06:37
psycho_oreosChocobo: man apt-get.. I think its apt-get purge06:37
chuckypandbelo, cups-pdf?06:37
obliI used to know, but that was under red hat, like three years ago :(06:37
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psycho_oreosobli: umount <dev> && mount <dev>06:37
gnomefreakpsycho_oreos: apt-get remove --purge06:37
_jasonChocobo: apt-get clean I believe06:38
andbelochuckyp, thanks, let me try...06:38
bddebianI'm trying to do a server install on a Compaq Proliant ML350 of Flight-5 Dapper.  It was getting ACPI:  Looking for DSDT.. Not found, then hanging.  So I did boot: server acpi=off and I don't get the ACPI error but it still hangs?  Any ideas?06:38
psycho_oreosgnomefreak: ahh, I think thats it, thanks.. should have been directed to Chocobo :)06:38
martynhow do i configure alsa drivers to work with my soundcard06:38
gnomefreakapt-get clean was right sorry didnt read the whole thing06:38
crimsunmartyn: they should work automatically. What sound card do you have?06:39
gnomefreakremove --purge gets rid of an app and its config files06:39
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andbelobernd, I had a similar problem. The causes in my case were: 1. wrong permissions to the directories and 2. need to edit a file that says to MySQL where to llok for the sockt.06:39
martyncrimsun: soundblaster live 24bit06:39
gnomefreakbddebian: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper related issues06:39
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bddebiangnomefreak: Ah, thx06:39
crimsunmartyn: pastebin output from cat /proc/asound/cards06:39
ChocoboThanks _jason and psycho_oreos.06:39
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gnomefreakbddebian: your welcome06:39
martyncrimsun: what soes that mean am a wee bit ofa noob to linux lol06:40
crimsun!tell martyn about pastebin06:40
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crimsunmartyn: Applications> Accessories> Terminal06:40
martynthx06:40
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gnomefreakcrimsun: i have same card he should just beable to go into the settings and choose the card he wants to use (if onboard is shut off)06:41
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oblipsycho_oreos, It says "special device /dev/hdd5 does not exist" =\06:41
martynyeah its shut of it does not pick it up at all06:41
iGotNoTimeHey I have a problem with my video files, they all seem to play at doublespeed. Does anyone have a guess as to why?06:41
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iGotNoTimeall media players do it, even VLC06:42
chuckypobli, sudo fdisk -l to see what drives you have06:42
marlunIs there no simple direct connect client for linux? I tried "Dc++ Linux" but it was a big mess.06:42
psycho_oreosobli: paste your fdisk -l /dev/hdd5 on pastebin's site06:42
chuckypmarlun, what do youmean direct connect?06:42
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chuckypmarlun, like a remote shell?06:42
crimsunmartyn: I need the output from that command on pastebin06:42
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iGotNoTimemarlun, DC++ is actually quite good06:42
marlunchuckyp: Nope I mean like DC++ :)06:42
iGotNoTimemarlun, what was the problem?06:42
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chuckypmarlun, a p2p program06:43
martyncrimsun: what do i do with paste bin got the site page open06:43
chuckypmarlun, amule06:43
oblipsycho_oreos, where?06:43
VIMmerhi, can anyone suggest me a good svn client for ubuntu?06:43
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psycho_oreos!tell obli about pastebin06:43
marluniGotNoTime: The linux version? The UI was a big mess and it didn't save my settings and hang all the time.06:43
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weedarHow can I specify default device to use to connect to internet?06:43
VIMmeri tried rapidsvn, but it sucks06:43
obliah, thanks06:43
chuckypmarlun, ahh you want a dc++ clinet hodl up06:43
crimsunmartyn: take the output from the command I gave you and paste it into the text entry area06:43
marlunchuckyp: not the same type :)06:43
crimsunmartyn: then submit it, and tell me the url06:43
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marlunchuckyp: yeah :P06:43
iGotNoTimemarlun, the layout is considerably different, bt it is better that a command-line version06:43
martynok 2 sec06:44
iGotNoTimemarlun, that is what we had 2 years ago06:44
oldbear!tell oldbear about pastebin06:44
iGotNoTimeDC++ Linux is the only DC client I am aware of06:44
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oblipsycho_oreos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1022906:44
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iGotNoTimethere are a few in Java I have heard though06:44
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marluniGotNoTime: I don't like java apps :P hehe06:45
chuckypmarlun, thats the only one I see also06:45
drayenanyone have the breezy mySQL server installed able to test something for me?06:45
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martyncrimsun: searched its and 0 search for 006:45
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martyncrimsun: 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA010606:46
martyn                     Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xa400 irq 1806:46
martyn1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART06:46
martyn                     MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 1006:46
defryskerrr06:46
crimsunmartyn: it's recognized just fine06:46
marlunToo bad theres not a gnome-direct-connect or something with a nice simple UI. I'll have to create one myself =P (yeah right)06:46
psycho_oreos!tell martyn about pastebin06:46
crimsunmartyn: pastebin, not here06:46
crimsunmartyn: I need the output from ``amixer -c0''06:46
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psycho_oreosobli: looks like your partition is stuffed, there is nothing listed in /dev/hdd06:46
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martyncrimsun: lol i know i just pasted that in to the search function of paste bin and got 0 search for 006:47
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elPepohi friends...06:47
obliweird, but how do I find it? =\06:47
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crimsunmartyn: no, not the _search_ but the _text_ area06:47
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obliI used it just before I shut down windows before installing ubuntu06:47
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elPepoplease, how do I can do a remote installation using cd/image of Ubuntu in my server?06:48
martyncrimsun: ok cheers 2 sec mate06:48
mike-ecan anyone tell me how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1013306:48
psycho_oreosthat paste you showed, has a gap between /dev/hda and /dev/hdd. You can see /dev/hdd has nothing extra listed there06:48
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blekos20mins... I am dist-upgrading :) I want the new (R)evolution06:48
psycho_oreosobli: well, I kinda doubt rebooting back to windows is possible again06:48
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obliI'm not planning to ;006:48
VIMmerguys, when is drapper stable scheduled to come out?06:48
martyncrimsun: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023006:48
crimsunVIMmer: that's up for discussion06:48
defryskmike-e, try apt-get -f install06:48
s|kyay I got mplayer to work really well :D06:49
blekostha bad thing with the lates evolution is that it didn have spam filter as good as Kontact...06:49
crimsunVIMmer: (11 minutes, #ubuntu-meeting)06:49
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crimsunmartyn: no, I saw that already. I need ``amixer -c0''06:49
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psycho_oreosobli: well, get into cfdisk, recreate a linux partition, make the partition into a type that you want. If you want windows compatibility, there is the option of ex2/ext3, fat32, reiserfs(read only on windows)06:49
martyncrimsun: and whats that lol sorry06:49
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crimsunmartyn: it's a command you type into the Terminal06:50
crimsun(without the quotes)06:50
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chuckypobli, you situation fat32 is the way to go probably06:50
martynok 2 sec06:50
Moe|Joeisnt their a webpage with all the ubuntu commands on how to install stuff via apt-get?06:50
_jason!apt06:50
uboturumour has it, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto06:50
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obliFATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical06:51
obli=\06:51
obli...partitions overlap06:51
mike-edefrysk : i did =/06:51
martyncrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023106:51
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crimsunmartyn: your 'Analog Front' is set to 0, so of course you won't hear anything06:51
martynand how do i change this06:52
crimsunmartyn: amixer sset 'Analog Front' 22506:52
crimsunmartyn: or use the volume control to adjust 'Analog Front'06:52
defryskmike-e, open synaptic select broken packages and remove them with synaptic06:52
crimsunmartyn: or use ``alsamixer -c0''06:52
martyncrimsun: CHeers mate works great ta06:53
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crimsunmartyn: np06:53
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martynKKK06:53
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obliMeh, I'll just try running the ubuntu installer again, thanks for listening, chuckyp , psycho_oreos06:54
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chuckypobli, you just have to delete the ntfs partitoin then write the changes06:54
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SilvereXdoes someone experience gnome panel crashing upon clicking menu item "add to panel" in latest dapper?06:55
_poetls06:55
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iGotNoTimelibmpeg2 is playing my .mpg files at doublespeed, can anyone help?06:55
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mordofhow do i md5 a file?06:55
s_spiffguys whats the command to install a .deb package?06:56
bddebiandpkg -i06:56
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tristanmikeSilvereX, please take all Dapper discussions to #ubuntu+106:56
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siriusnovahullo06:56
mike-eE: webmin-inetd: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 206:56
distantdoes anyone know of a nice system monitor to run on my desktop (gnome)06:56
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s_spiffbddebian, thanks man06:56
chuckypdistant, gdesklets06:56
mordofdistant, gnome already has a system monitor06:56
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bddebians_spiff: NP06:56
mordofchuckyp, nah gdesklets are buggy06:57
siriusnovacan anyone help me getting dri to work on my ibm thinkpad t30, it has a radeon 7500 M7 Mobility and i just cant get dri to work,06:57
stianmy nm-applet is buggy :(06:57
siriusnovaim using 5.1006:57
iGotNoTimedistant, my monitor is a samsung LOL06:57
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mordofdistant, click add to panel, and then there is a system monitor in there..06:57
mike-ecan anyone tell me how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10133 - using synaptec to remove the broken packages doesn't work, it gives me: E: webmin-inetd: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 206:57
thelsdjanyone else have a noticable lag when opening up a new terminal because of the time it takes to update /var/log/wtmp?06:57
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defryskmike-e, go to edit tab and select fix broken packages06:58
iGotNoTimeso nobody has had their video files play back too fast?06:58
mordofiGotNoTime, nope06:58
defryskmike-e, in synaptic that is06:58
distantI don't see it in there06:58
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thelsdjtakes nearly 5 seconds for bash prompt to come up!06:58
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s_spiffguys anyone here installed audacious player?06:58
mordofthelsdj, mine opens instantely :( sorry06:58
thelsdj:(06:58
distantoh I see it06:58
thelsdjwonder whats up with that06:58
distantbut I want something more detailed06:58
distantwith network, ram, etc06:59
mike-edefrysk : ok then?06:59
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s_spiffalso... how do i install fonts? i got the ms default fonts ..ina folder on my desktop...how to install those?06:59
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_jason!fonts06:59
ubotu[fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto06:59
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Celestehi06:59
s_spiff_jason, thanks06:59
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Celestehow can I flush the DNS cach please?06:59
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defryskmike-e, in synaptic that is07:00
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defryskmike-e, kliked fix broken packages ?07:01
defrysksorry for typos07:01
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mordofhow do i md5 a file?07:02
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sybaritenevening07:02
defryskmd5sum file07:02
mordofty07:02
s_spiffanyone tried the audacious player?07:02
sybariteni made a bin dir in my homedir ... whats the best place to implement that it should be in the path every time i log in over SSH ?07:02
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mike-eaudacity?07:02
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s_spiffhold on07:02
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adamhI'm looking to buy a new laptop. How well would an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 do with 3D acceleration on Linux?07:03
s_spiffmike-e, its at http://www.audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page07:03
sybaritenor, in other words: i have some scripts etc that i want to use without supplying the whole path. How do i make sure07:03
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thelsdjmd5sum is a good test of your ram as i found out the other day, md5sum kept returning different checksums lol07:03
sybaritenor, in other words: i have some scripts etc that i want to use without supplying the whole path. How do i make sure ~/bin is in the path in each bash session ?07:03
EvilDinhow to install compat-libstdc++-33 on ubuntu07:03
_jasonsybariten: look at ~/.bash_profile, I *think* that gets sourced when you login over ssh.  If not, just put it in ~/.bashrc07:03
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defrysks_spiff, just use beep media player07:04
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mike-ehmm07:04
mike-eno i haven't, i will though07:04
blueskyanyone know why /sbin/service doesn't exist on ubuntu ?07:04
mike-ei like bmp over xmms, so what could another fork possibly go wrong.07:04
jae_hello all07:04
adamhbluesky: Because it doesn't :P07:04
adamhbluesky: It's a Red Hat thing07:04
blueskyadamh : ahah, and I need to restard the iptables service07:04
sybariten_jason: thank you!07:04
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blueskyhow can I do that ?07:05
adamhbluesky: On ubuntu, use /etc/init.d/[whatever]  start|stop|restart|etc07:05
s_spiffdefrysk, i wanted to ...but someone yesterday suggsted..that this is much better besides i checkd pout on the forums...i found a lot of people sayin that audacious is a better player..but no where could i find a way to install it!07:05
defryskmike-e, try to stay away from non ubuntu packages07:05
thelsdjsybariten: ~/.bashrc changes will take effect as soon as you open new shell,w hile ~/.bash_profile only gets sourced on login i believe07:05
SolikoI am looking for a good linux, is Ubuntu good for me?07:05
blueskyahah ok thanks adamh07:05
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EvilDinam compat-libstdc++-33 is red hat thing what should i use for ubuntu07:05
adamhbluesky: np, but I don't think "restart iptables" is really what you want to do. The only *real* way to restart iptables is to reboot...07:05
sybaritenthelsdj:  ah, there i got an answer to the difference between them too ... splendid07:05
mike-edefrysk : yeah i noticed, hence my apt problems.07:05
adamhUnless "iptables" refers to the default firewall rules...07:05
s_spiffdefrysk, only problem is that the dependecies of audacious is like crazy! and synaptic apparently cant install those packages!07:05
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GITANAHELO07:05
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Solikoany one can tell me y ubuntu???07:06
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defrysks_spiff, you too stay away from non ubuntu packages ;)07:06
blueskyadamh: well I found a script to pass from LowID to HighID behind a NAT, and it has a /sbin/service iptables restart07:07
ads_Crap!! Please help I killed my clock applet and now that I have rebooted it's gone. How do I go about getting it back please? Thanks.07:07
defrysks_spiff, and any idiot can write any crap in every forum so be carefull with that and stick to the official ubuntu pages07:07
sybaritenSoliko: hmmmmmm...??07:08
adamhbluesky: Probably best *not* to use that script, then. You can most likely find an equivalent script better-suited for Ubuntu on the Ubuntu forums.07:08
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blueskyadamh: ok, searching..07:08
zAo^does anyone have a DEB of the new Gimpshop? thanks!07:08
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_jasonads_: right click on the panel > add to panel > clock07:09
ads__jason: thanks I will try it now07:09
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ads__jason: thanks a lot it worked. Just one question related though, since I killed it via "top" how would I go about bringing back a process I killed?07:10
_jasonads_: what did you kill?07:10
ads_clock applet07:10
ads_although its back now since i added it to panel the way you said07:11
GrarkWhew.07:11
GrarkFinally got FTPD working.07:11
_jasonads_: I suppose you would press ALT+F2 and run the command07:11
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ads_i see07:11
Grarkbut I have some general questions...is there a set "home" for ftp?07:11
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paul__hey all07:11
HappyFoolprocesses are not `resurrectable' via top; you need to restart them07:11
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GrarkWhere do I edit FTPUsers, is it generic? or app specific?07:11
sybaritenby the way; i noticed i already had a path-adding-statement for bin in my .bash_profile    *ehmm*   so there was never any problem07:11
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_jasonsybariten: it's commented though07:12
_jasonsybariten: at least I think it is07:12
thomas`anyone here manage to install updated nvidia drivers on there ubuntu 5.10? i need a bit of help setting this up.07:12
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_jason!nvidia07:12
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:12
sybariten_jason: no, it wasnt, i probably removed that comment if there was one ... in other words, i had already fixed what i came here asking about07:12
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mikebotdoes an ftp client thing come already installed in ubuntu?07:12
DVSoftwarehi07:12
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sybaritenHOWEVER ... it does not use the EXPORT-command, as is often done when people explain how to use path07:12
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_jasonsybariten: ah so it works then?07:12
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DVSoftwareis there any faster dapper mirror than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com07:12
lucas_what is your favourite media player07:13
sybariten_jason: yes, it worked all the time, forgot to check     *blush*07:13
samueldo you speak italian?07:13
DVSoftwarei get approx 30kb/s07:13
mikebotdoes ubuntu come with an ftp program installed, that is07:13
ReWT_AxSif im manually starting thw internet, what commands do i use?07:13
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DVSoftwarebut i need it within 1 hour07:13
DVSoftwarethis will last 5 hrs07:13
HappyFoolmikebot: an easy answer is firefox (browse to ftp://ftp.blah.com)07:13
samueldo you speak italian?07:13
thomas`that doesnt tell me how to update drivers07:13
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Grark!ftpd07:13
ubotuGrark: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:13
thomas`synaptic only has 766707:13
imachinelucas_, mplayer <307:13
HappyFool!it07:13
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:13
GFDLsamuel, why do you want something who speaks italian IN AN ENGLISH SPEAKING CHANNEL AH?07:13
mikebotHappyFool: thanks07:13
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thomas`i want driver version 8178 newest one atleast.. heh07:13
sybaritenthis is the statement it uses   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"    which is logical to mee, it makes the PATH variable contain somedir + PATH ....  but when's the need to do that export-thing ?07:13
thomas`7667 comes with ubuntu 5.1007:13
Madpilotmikebot, Nautilus does basic FTP stuff07:13
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nervhi07:14
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DVSoftwareplease, any faster dapper mirror?07:15
adamhsybariten: If you don't type "export" it'll only last until the command/script is done.07:15
samuelnervetto07:15
samuelparli italiano?07:15
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adamhsybariten: "export" puts it in the environment.07:15
Madpilot!it07:15
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:15
bozjoin #ubuntu-meeting07:15
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sybaritenadamh: ok ... and in this case, in the .bash_profile   ......?07:15
bozlol07:15
HappyFooladamh: not quite; export causes it to be 'exported' to processes started by the shell07:15
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adamhHappyFool: Ah, good to know, thank :)07:16
imachineboz, spam ;)07:16
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sybaritenok07:16
sybaritensame here more or less07:16
imachinetheres nothing wrong with the c-shell [;07:16
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imachinebash is unnecesary imho ^^07:16
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imachinebtw, substituting dash for /bin/sh seems to cause weird error messages at times.07:17
imachineis it even recommended?07:17
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DVSoftware:(07:18
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crimsuncyphase: yes, network-manager is in main07:18
HappyFoolimachine: dash's package description suggests that bash is preferred for interactive use07:18
crimsuncyphase: and please, don't blurt out in the meeting07:18
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cyphasecrimsun, i know, i didn't think before i spoke07:19
cyphasesorry :)07:19
erUSULimachine, some do not think like you http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/07:19
HappyFoolsackcloth and ashes for you, sonny07:19
imachineHappyFool, yes ofcourse; i was merely wondering if the dpkg-reconfigure dash option is wise to choose, that is substituting it for /bin/sh. it claims to be quicker ;)07:19
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imachineerUSUL, i am aware; world would be a pretty dull place then again if all people thought alike ;-)07:20
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imachinebut i hardly find it an issue anyway ^^07:20
roicomy cd-burner (samsung SW-252B) works slower on ubuntu than on windows... how can i fix that?07:20
DVSoftwareplease, is there a faster dapper flight5 mirror?07:20
crimsunDVSoftware: try se.archive.ubuntu.com's mirro07:20
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s_spiffDVSoftware, i think all the mirrors will be equally loaded...cuz many are having a run for it..07:20
imachineerUSUL, ah, lol, this is programming in csh.07:20
imachineerUSUL, ofcourse, i meant interactive use.07:21
imachineprogramming should be done in sh.07:21
s_spiff by da way...was anyone present at the ubuntu-meeting today?07:21
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DVSoftwares_spiff: but i need iso07:21
_jasons_spiff: the delay one is going on right now (part 2)07:21
DVSoftwarenot repository07:21
s_spiffcool07:21
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MadpilotDVSoftware, I got the flight5 ISO in about 4hrs with BitTorrent a day or two ago07:21
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VictorFadehello07:22
DVSoftwareMadpilot: problem is that i can't use bittorent07:22
DVSoftwareuniversity packet filter is blocking p2p traffic07:22
roicomy cd-burner (samsung SW-252B) works slower on ubuntu than on windows... how can i fix that?07:22
jetscreamerenable dma for it07:22
jetscreamerunless it already is07:23
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roicowhats DMA?07:23
jetscreamerdirect memory access i think but i forget07:23
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Madpilot!tell roico about dma07:24
jetscreamer!dma07:24
jetscreamerah07:24
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roicoand how do i enable it?07:24
Madpilotroico, see the URL the bot just sent you07:24
roicook htanks07:24
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jetscreamerby using the very dangerous if you misuse it program named hdparm07:26
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Malinthanks for removing the ban for neoplus :-)07:26
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roicoshould i enable it for both my DVD-playuer and my CD-burner?07:27
edmroico, you should know what DMA is.07:27
SymokI downloaded DivX for linux (from DivX site) but I can't run the install.sh script07:27
Madpilotroico, might as well07:27
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edmNo, only enable DMA on drives that you want to work quickly.07:27
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SymokIve been looking at the install thing from the faq but I'm not quite following it07:28
jetscreamerlike your cd and dvd and hd07:28
jetscreamerbut hey don't mess around, you can really bork stuff with hdparm if you mess up07:28
jetscreamerKNOW07:28
roicowhat coukld happen?07:28
jetscreamerheh07:29
jetscreameri never tried to find out07:29
jetscreamerman hdparm it might say07:29
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jetscreamerSymok: just add that repo that has w32codecs and it should have divx you can install via apt-get i believe (could be wrong)07:29
DVSoftwarejetscreamer: you shouldn't mess with linux at all if hdparm is 'very dangerous' thing to you07:30
jetscreamer-_-07:30
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felix_Ah the chat canal ... I am toally new to umbutu and say HELLOOO to all UMBUTU friends07:30
Symokjetscreamer, what is 'repo'?07:30
roicoso should i do it for all my drives?07:31
jetscreamerrepository07:31
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jetscreamer!easysource07:31
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:31
DVSoftwareroico: all except satas07:31
roicowhats satas?07:32
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Symokah, ok... *goes looking*07:32
Madpilotroico, SATA drives don't do DMA07:32
roicoahh ok... lol...07:32
HappyFoollinux kernel doesn't do dma on sata drives, i'd say07:32
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MadpilotHappyFool, I don't think (from what I've read) that SATA drives do DMA at all (not sure, though)07:33
HappyFoolMadpilot: i'd be *really* skeptical of that; otherwise the CPU needs to handle all i/o from the drives07:33
roicowhat about floppys/windows partitions (FAT32)/swap07:33
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edmfelix_, what is UMBUTU and where can I get it?07:34
jetscreamerubuntu07:34
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edmjetscreamer, bless you.07:34
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maltwhat is a MYSQL Control Center is it like something to make it easyer to control mysql like a gui?07:34
bddebianmalt: Try SQylog07:35
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DVSoftwarephpmyadmin07:35
DVSoftwarelol07:35
GFDLwhen are the new ISO images fixing the root security bug out?07:35
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pittiGFDL: will be discussed in tonight's TB meeting07:35
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GFDLpitti, thanks07:36
felix_oh UBUNTU sorry i was so exited ......07:36
HappyFoolroico: i doubt dma on floppies is possible (or worth it). it's probably enabled on your hard-drive already, and you need to manually enable it on cd/dvd drives (where it usually *is* worth it).07:36
malti have ubuntu on my old pc running apache with php well i want to get mysql installed now and i was wondering does MYSQL Control Center make it easyer to control mysql like accounts and dbs and all that07:36
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mfb__malt > phpmydmin crtainly does07:37
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maltbut i already have apache with php installed i was just wondering what does MYSQL Control Center do?07:37
felix_So thanks for the talk time ... i have to learn how to use my ubuntu ... cheers everyone07:37
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Andrew|unusual question - how do i change the screen res? my old monitor is all fuzzy at 1024*76807:38
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phiber_opticAndrew system->preferences->screen resolution07:39
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HappyFoolAndrew|: have you tried System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution ?07:39
Andrew|ok thanks07:39
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SymokHmm... I added the other repositories, but I don't see anything in the audio/video that looks like a codec pack07:41
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tristanmike!tell Symok about w32codecs07:42
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ubuntuola07:46
cheese23hey yall07:46
ibob63is there another program in ubuntu that does the job of kibitz?07:46
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cheese23so guys i'm somewhat new to ubuntu and i can't figure out how to enable my onboard sound device..any help?07:47
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Drehello, I have just installed ubuntu and when I system was booting, I had this black screen. heard the drum beat and there was this black screen07:49
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mordofcheese23, have you checked your motherboard manufacturers website for linux drivers?07:49
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Dretyped my username + password, heard the music07:49
Dreand still the black screen07:49
mordofDre, your video card is not displaying on the correct screen, do you have another monitor (possibly s-video or something) plugged in?07:49
cheese23not yet mordof07:49
mordofcheese23, try that07:49
Elyxiwhat can the problem be when i cant dl torrent files in ubuntu its new installed i get connected to the files but the downloading dosent start07:50
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Dreno I don't mordof07:50
mordofElyxi, are you sure you have sources for the file?07:50
Drehow am I gonna fix this problem?07:50
DreI'm on a laptop07:50
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Elyximordof about 200 sources :P07:50
mordofDre, is this machine at your house? can it possibly be connected with your other computer07:50
mordofElyxi, possibly try getting another torrent client?07:51
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Elyximordof already tested 307:51
Elyxisame problem with all07:51
DreI am at work.. I have another computer beside me BUT I installed Ubuntu on this laptop I'm using which now I run winXP07:51
mordofDre, because you can always use your laptop to ssh into your computer that the display isn't working on, and try installing other drivers07:51
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mordofElyxi, possibly you have ports that need to be forwarded?07:51
Elyxii just use a regular modem07:52
Dreis it because of me not installing the drivers on windows first?07:52
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mordofElyxi, i am not sure.. it seems most people are at the meeting.. so i'm trying to help people07:52
Drecause I did not install any drivers in windows07:52
mordofDre, windows has nothing to do with linux07:52
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Dreafter installing a fresh copy of windows i installed ubuntu07:52
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mordofDre, linux uses basic drivers for your video card.. they aren't working properly, what video card does it have?07:52
ktogiasHi. i am willing to fill in some translations in ubuntu installation cd installer for greek language. I am looking in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/el , but con not find out the installer package. Isn't it listed there? How can I help with the installer translation?07:52
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gravesonis vmware available ,how come i cannot find it on he syaptics packet manager07:53
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cheese23can you install new drivers in ubuntu without a floppy?07:53
mordofktogias, there is a meeting currently going on, alot of people are there.. if you could wait in here for a bit until the experts start coming back in, im sure someone would know... the community can always use help in translating stuff07:54
mordofcheese23, of course, there are always alternatives07:54
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HappyFoolktogias: if you don't get an answer here, perhaps you can ask on #ubuntu-devel (though as mordof says, there's a community meeting going on)07:54
mordofgraveson, have you tried installing the universe and multiverse repos yet?07:54
Andrew|hey folks, how do i change the clock?07:54
cheese23hmm no floppy...07:54
DreGraphics Driver for ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Chipset07:54
Drethis is my graphics card07:54
mordofAndrew|, right click, either properties or change time07:54
cheese23so then mordof looks like i'll need to buy a new round floppy cable07:54
mordofDre, ooo, a weird one.. i have nvidia.. i've heard ati is tricky07:55
mordofcheese23, why do you need to buy a floppy?07:55
HappyFool!ati07:55
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358907:55
Dreoh no07:55
GFDLDre, that card works in breezy07:55
Dreis there a way of deleting ubuntu now07:55
Andrew|mordof - thanks :)07:55
GFDLDre, I am using it now07:55
mordofDre, ok, i guess it is supported :P sorry for the scare07:55
cheese23you did say installing new drivers in ubuntu a floppy is the only way right?07:55
HappyFoolDre: i recommend trying the first link there (wiki.ubuntu.com/...)07:55
mordofAndrew|, np07:55
jon__GFDL, I have ATI Xpress 200 also, but I can't seem to get 3d acceleration to work.  how did you?07:55
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mordofcheese23, no i said there are many other ways to install stuff07:56
cheese23ahh yes07:56
cheese23indubidably07:56
avoinehi, someone know how add argument to X at startup? like -query 192.168.0.1 dor remote Xserveur07:56
GFDLjon__, I installed the following package07:56
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HappyFoolnot to mention that windows sound drivers probably won't help07:56
mordofbrb07:56
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gravesonmordof: i have enabled all the repos in the source file ,is there something additional i need to do07:56
mordofgraveson, i am not sure..07:57
Dreoh yeah by the way I am using 5.0407:57
mordofshould get 5.10..07:57
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DreI don't see how the link can help me troubleshooting my display problem07:57
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GFDLii  fglrx64-6-8-0                     8.13.4-2                          XFree86 display driver for the ATI graphics07:57
mordofDre, no it is to download new drivers, i can help you install them if it tells you how07:57
Dremordof : how do i delete ubuntu without screwing up my bootloader07:57
jon__GFDL, What package?07:57
jon__ah07:57
jon__nvm07:57
mordofDre, you have a windows xp cd right?07:58
HappyFool!tell cheese23 about sound07:58
Dresince now I have 2 OS in my lappy and ubuntu does not work07:58
Dreyes I do07:58
jetscreamerrm -fr /07:58
jetscreamer:o07:58
cheese23Windows 9X/ME/NT4/2000/2003/XP 32/64bit these are my only manufacturer audio driver supported os's07:58
GFDLyou need to transform the rpm from ati to .deb format with alien07:58
jetscreamerDre: ^^07:58
HappyFoolcheese23: i'd recommend reading that wiki page for help with sound07:58
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jetscreamererr R not r07:58
gravesonanuone can help me on how to install vmware07:58
jetscreameror just format it07:58
Madpilotjetscreamer, not amusing - besides, that wouldn't work w/o 'sudo'...07:58
cheese23ty happy07:58
jetscreamerhey he asked07:58
mordofDre, iirc, windows xp comes with an option to fix the boot (fixboot or something).. that may work once you have taken out ubuntu.. possibly download gparted live cd.. and then you can get rid of linux from there07:58
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Dreoh okie07:59
mordofDre, however, your problem is not too difficult to solve if you have the right resources07:59
jetscreameryou wnat your xp bootloader back? boot a w9x ebd and run fdisk /mbr07:59
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jetscreameror a cd, or the xp install cd and choose 'repair'07:59
Dreso i use the liveCD of ubuntu to delete ubuntu installed in my hdd and then use the XP cd to fix boot?07:59
mordofor gparted live cd07:59
jetscreamerno don't bother erasing ubuntu07:59
lucas_Is there any way I can make VLC look better? Like a proper GTK2 player?07:59
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mordofDre, but you can still get it working08:00
jetscreamerjust format the partition after you get xp back08:00
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mordofohh, right. you don't need to whipe out ubuntu first. you can just restore winxp's mbr08:00
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Drehow do I do that again?08:00
bart__Hi all08:00
wuzzyhi! today when i got home i can't boot my ubunu! it goes black after i choose ubuntu from the grub menu. then it loads the hd for a while and then stops. thats it. xp boots fine. can i enable some logging or something?08:01
mordofuse the xp install cd and choose repair08:01
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Dreokie dokie08:01
Dregimme a min08:01
chuckypDre, off the xp cd its called fixmbr08:01
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mordofDre, yeah what chuckyp said.. you will be able to choose that command after you enter repair in the install menu08:01
chuckypwuzzy, you can select recovery mode singl user?08:01
wuzzychalcedony, yep but its the same08:01
chuckypwuzzy, then run the command to check the file system or flag it to be checked08:02
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Dreso I have to boot with wind0ze's CD?08:02
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wuzzychuckyp, can i select that from grub?08:02
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lucas_Is there any other (better looking) media player that has VLC's functionality08:02
chuckypwuzzy, yes should be an option08:03
_jasonlucas_: you can skin mplayer08:03
HappyFoolktogias: have you seen this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslationTeam ?08:03
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lucas_But can it really look good?08:03
chuckypwuzzy, when you get to the grub menu right under the normal kernel there should be a recovery mode.08:03
techrushive seen some nice mplayer skins yes08:03
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wuzzychuckyp, ok i'll try.. how can i tell if it is a hd issue? i suspect one of my hds is failing on e.. it says missing interrups and so on i dmseg the last weeks..08:03
cheese23https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2090..any help with realtek audio?08:03
cheese23oss08:04
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crimsuncheese23: erm, it's already resolved, no?08:04
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chuckypwuzzy, wuzzy you can fsck it.08:05
_jasonlucas_: look at the skins here http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html08:05
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cheese23well then i guess i have a bastard child of a motherboard08:06
ReWT_my integrated isnt working anymore after using a diff. distro live cd08:06
ReWT_?08:06
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wuzzychuckyp, do you meen the recovery option in grub? that gives the same result..08:06
oblipsycho_oreos, I'm back, the installer didn't manage to nume the NTFS drive...08:06
lucas_So there is no way to make VLC look better?08:06
obli:(08:06
obli*nuke08:06
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obliIs there any tool I can use to just erase the MBR and start from scratch?08:07
_jasonlucas_: I think vlc is skinnable too, but not the version in the repos08:07
ReWT_why would my ndiswrapper not be working anymore?08:07
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lucas_any way of making it GTK208:08
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HappyFoolobli: do you want to get windows back?08:08
fiveirondo you have to have compiz for xgl to work?08:08
oblinope08:08
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fiveironk.. didn't think so ... but i wanted to check08:08
obliI just want to use my 80 gb hard drive, currently infested with NTFS08:08
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cheese23shall i just buy a supported soundcard?08:08
fiveironoh rofl...08:08
fiveironnm08:08
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FjodorDoes anyone know about running different distros in a chroot under ubuntu?08:08
cheese23i refuse to return to windows08:08
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HappyFoolobli: erasing the mbr is not all that hard, but i think it's probably a bad idea08:09
cheese23i'm just not a mainstream type of guy08:09
chuckypobli, just sudo cfdisk /<device>  delete the ntfs partition and write the changes.  THe create a fat32 partition and wite hte changes08:09
oblilinux is installed on hda, my 80 gb is hdd08:09
cheese23any ideas on any good cheep pci soundcards that support most modern linux distros?08:10
ajmitchcheese23: what sound card & realtek codec does it use?08:10
HappyFoolcheese23: unfortunately the real gurus (e.g., crimsun) are busy in a meeting; maybe you can get better help a bit later or tomorrow08:10
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chuckypobli, okay well sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd08:10
chuckypobli, and delete it08:10
cheese23brb with that ajmitch08:10
obliok, neat08:10
JemtUhm where can I see which modules is loaded on my computer? I don't have X installed08:10
obliprimary of logical when creating a new one?08:10
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roicofor people who remember me, turning on DMA worked, thanks a lot... :)08:12
chuckypJemt, lsmod08:12
Jemtchuckyp: Ah, thanks08:12
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nidahhi08:12
nidahnewbie here08:12
nidahusing ubuntu08:12
nidahloking for assistance re dvd's08:12
chuckypnidah, ask08:13
LasseL!dvd08:13
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)08:13
cheese23Realtek ALC655 6 Channel Audio Codec ajmitch08:13
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nidahok so my totem player is able to play dvd 's but the quality is real jerky what can i do to fix the issue08:13
FjodorAnyone with chroot experience at all?08:14
chuckypnidah,  in the wiki on the restricted format page they discuss jerky play back08:14
chuckyp!restricted08:14
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats08:14
oblichuckyp, what do I do after deleting the partition?08:14
oblito get a usable fat3208:14
_jasonubotu: tell nidah about dma08:14
chuckypobli, write the changes08:14
nidahsorry come again?08:14
nidahwhat is wiki?08:14
chuckypobli, you then should have a blank drive08:14
obliyup, done08:14
nidahwhat is dma08:14
chuckypobli, okay now create a partition08:14
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chuckypobli, and after you create it you want to set the type to fat3208:15
HappyFoolnidah: this web-page will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:15
obliin cfdisk?08:15
oblilogical or primary?08:15
JemtI need to load the module 'isofs.o' in order to create a Linux live CD. How do I do that? I have performed a server install08:15
chuckypobli, in cfdisk you want to make a primary08:15
pdklim installing ruby gems, and i get an error about it not being able to find zlib. i have zlib-ruby installed.08:15
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chuckypobli, then if you hit the right arrow you can highlight type and hit enter.08:15
ajmitchcheese23: and what sound card? realtek codecs are used with a variety of different sound drivers08:16
cheese23ok biostar tforce 6100 939 with Realtek ALC655 6 Channel Audio Codec08:16
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cheese23onboard audio on this board08:16
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ajmitchdoesn't tell me what sound driver it might use08:17
cheese23i have like a legacy soundcard from 1994 buit i'm sure traht isn't supported either ajmitch08:17
HappyFoolpdkl: maybe it needs 'zlib1g-dev' (C header files and libs) if it access C calls directly (I don't know ruby at all)08:17
chuckypobli, then select fat32 or vfat whatever the option is.08:17
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suppamanhi08:17
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chuckypobli, then write that to the disk and you can now exit.08:17
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chuckypobli, only thing left is to format the disk08:17
icetrying to get freenx for dapper08:17
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iceanyone know how08:17
Chodder!cowsay08:17
ubotuChodder: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:17
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suppamanis there a way to not get an error when quitting a vnc session with Applications->Internet->Client Terminal Server ?08:18
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HappyFool!freenx08:18
ubotu[freenx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX08:18
iceyeah that doesn't have the dapper package08:18
iceonly breezy and horay08:18
obliok, Disk manager, I guess, chuckyp ?08:18
cheese23nVIDIA nFORCE4 C19/MCP5108:18
HappyFooloh, dapper. sorry, i don't know08:18
chuckypobli, did you set the type to fat32?08:19
obliyes08:19
chuckypobli, and did you write it?08:19
obliyes08:19
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chuckypobli, okay now we format I think its mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd1 or whatever the partion is.08:19
cheese23http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20939/tforce6100-939/product_details.php this is the mobo's website08:20
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x128how can i record the screen for a movie under x11 - but no vnc?08:20
chuckypobli, you can chekc which partition number it is by sudo fdisk -l08:20
nidahhow do i find out what dev is what i have a cd rom and a dvd rom08:20
obliok08:20
chuckypnidah, sudo fdisk -l08:20
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chuckypnidah, sry that wasn't meant for you.08:21
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glassjawukhey you guys08:21
cheese23ajmitch08:21
cheese23?08:21
HappyFoolnidah: what does 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' say ?08:21
suppamanHappyFool: thanks, that was for me08:21
ice!remote desktop08:21
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ice08:21
HappyFoolnidah: sorry, you need to run that in a terminal08:21
chuckypnidah, you can cat /etc/fstab it may be in there.08:21
oblichuckyp, vfat in fstab, right?08:22
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dr_kabuto /join #ubuntu-meeting08:22
HappyFoolnidah: it's best to keep the chat in here, that way others can correct my mistakes08:22
chuckypobli, no sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd#  < substitute your number there.08:22
nidahall very confusing come again08:22
chuckypobli, in terminal08:22
gnomefreakdr_kabuto: meeting is over08:22
oblidone that08:22
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chuckypok08:22
chuckypobli, now to mount it08:22
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HappyFoolnidah: you should have an 'Applications' menu in the top left corner of your screen08:23
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HappyFoolnidah: in that menu, follow 'Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal'08:23
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chuckypobli, do you have a folder to mount the drive to?  i.e. /media/storage or something similiar?08:24
nidahi dont have fstab under etc08:24
obliyeah, I was thinking /storage08:24
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chuckypobli, okay did you mkdir /storage ?08:24
oblidoen08:24
chuckypk08:24
Andrew|how can i view hdd space?08:24
JemtWhere is initrd located?08:24
crimsunJemt: /boot/08:25
cheese23does anyone know or any linux soundblaster capable pci soundcards?08:25
Jemtcrimsun: Thanks08:25
_jasonAndrew|: df -h08:25
chuckypobli, so you need to add a line like "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" to fstab08:25
cheese23ie to work with breezy?08:25
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nidah/dev/cdrom->hdc08:25
HappyFoolnidah: then the device is /dev/hdc08:25
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Andrew|thnx08:26
Wizz_kiddi gots a problem ,,,,,,,08:26
nidahhow to i find what my toher drive ie dvd rom is?08:26
oblias vfat?08:26
chuckypobli, /dev/hdd1 /storage vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=000008:26
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oblidump and pass should be 0?08:26
chuckypobli, that would make it accesible to anyone.08:26
BigIslandIs there a simple way to install Flash and Java support in the browser on Ubuntu 5.10 for AMD 64 or PPC?08:26
nidahhow to i find what my other drive ie dvd rom is?08:26
HappyFoolnidah: maybe 'ls -l /dev/dvd'08:26
chuckypobli, if you want to lock it down more to like users or something let me know08:26
obliI'm the only user, so that's not a problem08:26
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chuckypobli, /dev/hdd1 /storage vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000     0     008:27
Wizz_kiddi cant open up syntaptic or anything that rrequires root ........it comes up and ask me for your password then i wenter root password deosnt work then i try to open another root app doesnt even come up with a password box nothing happens08:27
obliok08:27
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nidahsays the same thing hdc08:27
chuckypobli, yeah I forgot dump and pass08:27
_jasonWizz_kidd: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?08:27
chuckypobli, after you've added it the just sudo mount -a08:27
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Wizz_kiddalso i installed Opera on root i try to run it on my other account and it doesnt wiork08:27
cheese23hmm linux compatible sheep pci soundcards anyone?08:27
nidahshould i assume my other drive is hdd?08:27
oblihey, it worked08:27
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chuckypobli, cool now it will mount on reboot08:27
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Wizz_kiddjus gives me one of these ">08:28
nidah:(08:28
Wizz_kiddeido whoc hi'08:28
_jasonWizz_kidd: what is the output of 'groups'08:28
HappyFoolnidah: do you have a cd in the other drive?08:28
Wizz_kidd>08:28
nidahi suck at linux08:28
obliawesome, now all I need is a program to read all the IDv3 tags on my mp3 and m4a files and rename them to something more suiable than the ipod names...08:28
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nidahno should i put one in it08:28
Wizz_kiddwhat do you mean08:28
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_jasonWizz_kidd: enter the command 'groups'08:28
chuckypWizz_kidd, log in a user and type in terminal "which opera"08:28
HappyFoolnidah: yes, then run 'mount' to see if there are any mentions of cdrom devices08:29
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chuckypobli, mp3rename08:29
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chuckypobli, will rename based on id308:29
nidahauto mounts08:29
nickrudobli: or easytag08:29
Wizz_kiddok i entered group s now i see all the accounts08:29
_jasonWizz_kidd: paste it here please08:29
HappyFoolnidah: it should, but you can use 'mount' to see what it is mounted as08:29
Wizz_kiddme adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner08:29
nidahhow do i do that08:30
obliok, I'll look for it08:30
_jasonWizz_kidd: is this the first user you created during the install?  and is this an expert install?08:30
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HappyFoolnidah: run 'mount' or 'mount|grep cdrom' and look at the output08:30
obliany idea on how to cicumvent the itunes DRM? I've got a few rare songs I suspect I'm not going to be able to play08:30
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jpablohey people, I'm trying to upgrade a mac mini from breezy to drapper but i get a md5 error in main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz when doing the apt-get update. any ideas ?08:31
nidah/dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type iso966008:31
mike19803Can anyone plese tell me where I can get the latest netinstall imapges please?08:31
HappyFoolnidah: ok, now put it in the other drive and do the same thing08:31
chuckypjpablo, are you using a cd or doing a net upgrade?08:31
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lastentcan anybody help me08:31
jpablochuckyp, net08:31
_jason!helpme08:31
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.08:32
chuckypjpablo, just make sure your soruces.list is right.08:32
oblihow do I add all files in a folder into a zip file?08:32
chuckypobli, gzip08:32
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nidahnothing08:32
mike4479Can anyone plese tell me where I can get the latest netinstall imapges please?08:33
obliGzip * <name>?08:33
HappyFoolnidah: did it mount ?08:33
HappyFoolnidah: i mean, automount ?08:33
jpablochuckyp, I copied them from a url ...08:33
chuckypjpablo, what url the official repos are here08:33
chuckyp!repos08:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:33
nidahyes it did an auto mount08:33
mike4479!netinstall08:33
ubotumike4479: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:33
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jpablolet's see08:33
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obli!easyresource08:33
chuckypnidah, cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom08:33
ubotuobli: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:33
HappyFoolnidah: it's a cd, right?08:33
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mike4479ubotu: ok thanks08:34
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mike447908:34
HappyFoolnidah: try 'mount|grep iso'08:34
nidahsorry i had a dvd movie in my dvd rom so im assuming hdc is my dvd rom drive08:34
HappyFoolnidah: hrm08:34
chuckypomg08:34
edanhi can anyone tell me whats solaris os ???08:34
lastent!xgl08:34
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:34
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chuckypnidah, yes that would be your secondary master08:34
nidah/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto08:34
chuckyp!sun08:34
edanhi can anyone tell me whats solaris os ???08:34
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp08:34
nidah/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto08:34
jpablochuckyp, thanks, thoses lines worked.08:35
HappyFoolnidah: well, i don't know which is which08:35
binain kmix, how do you savew your volume settings? just tell it not to restore volume levels on login?08:35
HappyFoolnidah: enable dma on both, anyway08:35
nickrudedan: sun.com08:35
cheese23solaris on idea08:35
chuckypjpablo, np08:35
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jpablochuckyp, what's prefered ? apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade ?08:35
nidahdoesnt matter i can enable dma on both right?08:35
gnomefreakedan: an operating system that should be talked about in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)08:35
nidahby editing hdparm08:35
chuckypjpablo, doesn't matter make sure you sudo apt-get update then do like apt-get dist-upgrade08:35
edannickrud, been there dudnt really understaned....08:35
HappyFoolnidah: yip08:35
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edangnomefreak, ok ssry08:35
birdfishIs there any way to download gnome for ubuntu?08:36
Wizz_kidd_jason, what do you mean yes it is the user i created during the install08:36
schmitywhats the minimum space needed to install ubuntu?08:36
birdfishOr would I have to compile from source?08:36
jetscreamermore like by using hdparm08:36
tristanmikebirdfish, gnome is Ubuntu08:36
chuckypbirdfish, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:36
_jasonWizz_kidd: did you choose 'expert install'?08:36
Wizz_kidddont think so08:36
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birdfishchuckyp: thanks :)08:36
schmitybirdfish sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:36
wuzzyhi! how do i remove the lame "animation" that occurs when i click an app-launcher from the top panel? (as an example, the firefox launcher)08:36
schmitywhats the minimum space needed to install ubuntu?08:36
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chuckypwuzzy, animation?08:36
birdfishtritanmike: I installed server so that I didn't get all of the other packages.  I can't stand crap on my system :)08:36
birdfishshmity: thank you also =] 08:37
chuckypwuzzy, the cursor wait?08:37
mischkoHow to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?08:37
tristanmikeschlurchz, 1.8 gig, but I recommend at least 308:37
_jasonschmity: ~1.8gb08:37
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Wizz_kiddthis is annoying me08:37
wuzzychuckyp: yeah, lines that kind of "scale" up" to the program windows.. ehh..08:37
_jasonWizz_kidd: well the reason your sudo isn't working is because you aren't a member of the admin group08:37
jpablochuckyp, thanks a lot for the help. bye.08:37
chuckypwuzzy, don't knwo what you are talking about?  are you running xgl?08:37
Wizz_kiddhow od i chnage that08:38
schlurchztristanmike: erm, what?08:38
Wizz_kidddo08:38
tristanmikesorry schlurchz that was for schmity08:38
nidahi wrote the following at the end of hdparm.conf :/dev/hdc {08:38
nidah   dma = on08:38
nidah   }08:38
nidah/dev/hdd {08:38
nidah   dma = on08:38
nidah   }08:38
_jasonWizz_kidd: did you enable root for some reason?08:38
chuckyp!paste08:38
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.08:38
Wizz_kiddenable ?08:38
gnomefreaknidah: use pastebin please08:38
schlurchztristanmike: np08:38
Wizz_kiddi logged onas root 1 time08:38
Wizz_kiddlogged08:38
nidahwhats paste bin?08:38
tristanmikeschlurchz, darn tab autocomplete08:38
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chuckypnidah, read what ubotu said08:38
_jasonWizz_kidd: ok, did you ever do 'sudo passwd root' to enable it?08:38
nidahok08:38
schlurchztristanmike: I guessed it :-)08:38
wuzzychuckyp: yeah, but this is not part of compiz.. it feels "old", just like lines that give the illusion of thefirefox  winow coming from the panel08:38
Wizz_kiddno08:38
cheese23does anyone know how to bring up alsamixer settings?08:38
natrolllooks like a 6-week delay on dapper is what's in the mix08:39
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_jasonWizz_kidd: ok you probably did an expert install then.  su to root and put /etc/sudoers on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please08:39
nidahbut i didnt put any #} sign before what i wrote08:39
chuckypwuzzy, The effect you are talking about is an xgl thing.  Its like the menu is out of focus for a second is what you mean?08:39
cheese23terminal won't work08:39
gnomefreaknatroll: hasnt been decided yet (you were there in meeting with me)08:39
Wizz_kiddi dont think i did an expert install08:39
tristanmikecheese23, it's sudo alsamixer08:39
Wizz_kiddit was pretty automatic ish08:39
gnomefreakubotu tell nidah about pastebin08:39
chuckypcheese23, ctrl+alt+f208:39
_jasonWizz_kidd: ok that's fine, we'll take care of it08:39
natrollgnomefreak, yeah, but supporters of the delay are at the top and just below the top08:39
Wizz_kiddbut the cd had a bad sector and it didnt install a few things right08:39
chuckypcheese23, and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x08:39
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natrollgnomefreak, hence the 'looks like' :D08:40
Wizz_kiddso i had ot  do an apt-get to get the remaining packages08:40
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_jasonWizz_kidd: just give me the link to your paste when you finish, I'll be back in a bit08:40
Wizz_kiddok08:40
chuckypWizz_kidd, what is your problem?  Or what are you trying to do?08:40
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pdklhow much ram can you have on a dual core processor (amd) ?08:41
natrollso anyone here got xgl working properly in dapper?08:41
wuzzychuckyp: this is difficult to explain.. no its not like that.. it draws, first i small rectangle with blue lines, then it draws a bigger rectangle, and then a bigger one, do you follow?08:41
chuckyppdkl, dunno how much will your mother board handle08:41
tristanmikepdkl, depends on the motherboard08:41
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pdklanything over 4 gigs08:41
chuckypwuzzy, yes but I don' thave that problem08:41
VictorFadehi! anybody have configured vpn?08:41
Wizz_kiddi did, sudo root08:41
^Odd^!sources08:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:41
Wizz_kiddi entered the root password i set but it didnt work08:41
cheese23well chucky p not working08:41
chuckypnatroll, I was running it earlier08:41
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natrollchuckyp, any issues?  what hardware?08:42
nidahits asking me for a name to send pastebin too08:42
CrAzYoNiI've a simple question, How can I extract a RAR file in linux?:\08:42
cheese23but i love the ctrl alt f2 sohorcut08:42
tristanmikenidah, yeah, just put your nick that you use here08:42
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natrolloh poo i have a drs appointment today08:42
chuckypWizz_kidd, are you talking about he password it prompts you for when you type in sudo08:42
wuzzychuckyp: strange, i haven't changed anything.. and xgl work perfect for me.. this dow not feel like xgl08:42
VictorFadeCrAzYoNi, sudo apt-get install rar08:42
_jasonWizz_kidd: no, just type 'su'08:42
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Wizz_kiddk that worked08:42
techrushCrAzYoNi you need install rar then use the command 'rar -e' i believe08:42
schmityis swap memory that needed?08:42
wuzzywuzzy: its just simple, blue 1pixel rectangles..08:42
tristanmike!tell Wizz_kidd about rootsudo08:42
VictorFade!vpn08:43
ubotuVictorFade: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:43
_jasontristanmike: his sudo is broken08:43
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VictorFade!08:43
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade08:43
natrollschmity, depends on your system08:43
tristanmike_jason, oh, sorry, my mistake08:43
nidahi think i posted08:43
wuzzychuckyp:  its just simple, blue 1pixel rectangles..08:43
Wizz_kiddbash: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied08:43
mischkoHow to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?08:43
CrAzYoNicool, thanks a lot :)08:43
VictorFade!pptp08:43
Wizz_kiddim in there as root08:43
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade08:43
schmitynatroll: i got 10gb08:43
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chuckypwuzzy, don't have that on my screen.08:43
natrollof RAM?08:43
_jasonWizz_kidd: heh how can you get permission denied as root08:43
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Wizz_kiddi dont know08:43
VictorFade!helpme vpn08:43
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade08:43
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nidahdid anyone get my paste?08:43
cheese23my mobo is ugly08:43
wuzzychuckyp: ok, thanks anyway!08:43
gnomefreakubotu tell VictorFade about msg the bot08:44
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katarothey08:44
schmitynatroll: of HD space08:44
chuckyp_jason, cuz he's not root.08:44
_jasonWizz_kidd: how did you try to open it?08:44
tristanmikenidah, you have to paste the link here for people to see08:44
Wizz_kiddroot@cpe-71-65-52-9:/home/me# /etc/sudoers08:44
Wizz_kiddbash: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied08:44
VictorFadegnomefreak, i don't need bot's help... i need real help08:44
natrollschmity, i mean, it depends on how much RAM you have and what you're doing with the system08:44
CrAzYoNiThough it is strange that apt-get tells me there is no rar package..08:44
_jasonWizz_kidd: it's a text file.  Try 'cat /etc/sudoers'08:44
cheese23help with turning off IEC?08:44
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katarotanyone here had to use ndiswrapper im really puzzled with it08:45
tritiumWizz_kidd: visudo is used to edit /etc/sudoers.  However, if you want to give a user sudo priveleges, just add that user to the admin group.08:45
gnomefreakVictorFade: fist than dont play with the bot sencond here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD?highlight=%28vpn%2908:45
nidahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023308:45
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nidahi think08:45
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gnomefreakfirst*08:45
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afd_hi! Anyone here that has experience with Xgl + Ati + compiz? I'd like to ask a few questions on this08:45
ReWT_i ran a live cd just a minute ago and i switched back over here to ubuntu and now when I try to start ndiswrapper, nothing happens?08:46
tritiumafd_: that's a dapper question...please ask in #ubuntu+108:46
gnomefreakubotu tell afd_ about xgl08:46
VictorFadegnomefreak, thanks, i get it08:46
Wizz_kiddhttp://pastebin.com/60219708:46
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=== gnomefreak send xgl to xgl channel ;)
schmitynatroll: i got bout 128mb ram, and im gonna be doing high-end gaming08:46
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afd_thanks guys08:46
tritiumgnomefreak: yeah, that's even better :)08:46
medhounysalut08:46
nidahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023508:47
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kataroti cant get it to work can i write what i have been doing because it really long like 21 line08:47
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_jasonWizz_kidd: use the command 'visudo' and make it look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/702108:47
medhounycomment on instal sur linux svp???08:47
natrollschmity, i doubt with 128 mb ram you'll be doing high-end gaming08:47
Wizz_kiddi jus want my user to be able to add apps n stuff08:47
nidahadded a screeshot08:47
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tritiumWizz_kidd: I already told you.  Add that user to the admin group.  Ne need to even use visudo.08:47
nidahjust wanna know if i have it correct so i can save it08:48
_jasontritium: his sudoers does not have %admin blah in it08:48
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tritium_jason: hmm, okay.  How did it end up like that?08:48
ReWT_any idea?08:48
icemanwhats a kernel panic error ... saying no initrd mean08:48
Wizz_kidd:( 2 people telling me 2 different things me = getting cinfused08:48
_jasontritium: no idea08:48
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nidah:(08:48
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_jasontritium: expert install does that and he has a root account without using sudo passwd, but he does not think he did an expert install08:49
tritiumiceman: did you compile your own kernel?08:49
chuckypWizz_kidd, your user can add apps just sudo apt-get or use synaptic08:49
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moyogohi08:49
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nidahi think pastebin doesnt work08:49
Wizz_kiddi am trying to use synaptic08:49
icemantritium custom insall yes ...08:49
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tritium_jason: I see...08:49
chuckypnidah, yes it does you click send then you copy the url08:49
gnomefreaknidah: why do you say that i saw your first post08:49
Wizz_kiddit pops up and says .......please enter your password im guessing it wants root password i enter it and nothing happens08:49
tristanmikenidah, I'd personally put it between the last 2 options08:49
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ragunathhi when i try to run java code i get this error , what else i have to install in ubuntu , " gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit not found"08:49
moyogoi'm testing dapper and i get weird kering for letters after T, Y, V and W in some fonts08:50
gnomefreakWizz_kidd: it wants your user password08:50
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ReWT_chuckyp, i just tried running a live d other than ubuntu and when i returened to my ubuntu, my ndiswrapper no longer works?08:50
Wizz_kiddi enter that also and nothing happens08:50
gnomefreakmoyogo: please see #ubuntu+108:50
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chuckypReWT_, a live d?08:50
ReWT_cd08:50
moyogognomefreak: thanks08:50
ReWT_lol08:50
gnomefreakmoyogo: yw08:50
chuckypReWT_, what type of netcard?08:50
tristanmikenidah, betweet #}   and   #command_line....   with a blank line above and below the new entry08:50
ReWT_braodcom integrated08:50
fiveironsweet08:50
tritiumiceman: did you use kernel-package?  What options in your grub's menu.lst do you have for that image?08:50
gnomefreakWizz_kidd: this is one of the reasons its not advisable to enable su08:50
fiveironubuntu seems to be installing fine now.... i think i had a bad cd-rw before08:50
tristanmikenidah, are both drives DVD compatible ?08:51
chuckypReWT_, live cd shouldn't have done anything with ndiswrapper.  Unless the device is locked up somehow.  maybe full power off and back on?08:51
Wizz_kiddjust how do i make it so i can open up synaptic and add pakcages08:51
Wizz_kiddpackages08:51
ReWT_it was working fine before08:51
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_jasonWizz_kidd: did you add those two lines to your sudoers08:51
ReWT_i just shut it down and restarted it08:51
ReWT_still nothing08:51
Wizz_kidd2 lines?08:51
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_jasonWizz_kidd: never mind, just do this: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin08:52
ReWT_oh and when the live cd was done08:52
ReWT_and i rebooted08:52
cheese23do you think if i pop in an install cd i could get my oss working?08:52
ReWT_The grub list had like 2 more options to choose for ubuntu it hada previous default anda regular default added to it?08:52
Wizz_kidds oif my user i wantot use is called me08:53
Wizz_kiddhow would it be ?08:53
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Wizz_kiddsorry for sounding so n00bish08:53
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_jasonWizz_kidd: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser me admin08:53
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schmityhow do i make ubuntu look like windows XP?08:54
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_jasonschmity: browse gnome-look.org for some windows-like themes08:54
Wizz_kiddunder su ?08:54
cheese23why would you want it to look like xp?08:54
_jasonWizz_kidd: yeah08:54
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Wizz_kiddAdding group `admin' (113)...08:54
Wizz_kiddDone.08:54
Wizz_kiddAdding user `me' to group `admin'...08:54
Wizz_kiddDone.08:54
visik7how can I get pctv usb2 working on ubuntu ?08:54
Wizz_kiddthat mean it should work now ?08:54
_jasonWizz_kidd: you may need to logout and log back in08:55
Wizz_kiddok it worked08:55
Wizz_kiddyay thanks08:55
Wizz_kiddreally thanks :P08:55
_jasonubotu: tell Wizz_kidd about sudo08:55
_jasonWizz_kidd: now, you can read that :)08:55
cheese23how does cheese 23 get his onboard audio to work with breezy?08:55
Wizz_kiddwill do :P08:55
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ReWT_how do you kill a mod?08:56
Wizz_kiddwhen i was in root i install the oper.deb but when I try to run it it doesnt work any ideas?08:56
cheese23any help with audio would be great08:56
Wizz_kiddsays command not found08:57
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_jasonWizz_kidd: where did you get oper.deb from?08:57
Wizz_kiddopera website08:57
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nidahW: GPG error: http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46608:57
panosHello, I'm installing Ubuntu using debootstrap, how do I install the server packages only? It installs the desktop system when I'm doing "base-config new"08:57
_jasonWizz_kidd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser08:57
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schmity_jason: how do i open up MS-DOS then?08:58
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ReWT_cmd08:58
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QUASARhello to everyone08:58
ReWT_hi08:58
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_jasonschmity: why would you want MS-DOS?08:58
phiber_opticI have a jogl.so in my home folder what does it mean?08:58
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Andrew|any ideas how i can change the login screen to be 800x600? i already set my desktop to that res..08:59
cheese23hey guys i just burnt a data mp3 cd from windows to back up my music from a nother hd so i could install it in ubunto how would i be able to open or rip these files?08:59
gnomefreakyuck @ ms dos08:59
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schmitydoesnt ubuntu use MS-DOS _jason?08:59
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QUASARAndrew, if you don't use that res remove from xorg.conf08:59
_jasonschmity: no, are you just referring to the terminal?08:59
schmitywhats the best linux distro for lookin at porn?08:59
zAo^Andrew|: make 800x600 the highest res possible in xorg.conf08:59
schmitywhats terminal?09:00
p01n7bant09:00
void^schmity: you fail at trolling09:00
=== ReWT_ ROFLCOPTER @ schmity
gnomefreakschmity: applications>accesories>terminal09:00
Andrew|cheese23 - applications > sound and video > sound juicer09:00
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martyn_is there drivers for the NVIDIA 7800gt out09:00
phiber_opticI have a jogl.so in my home folder what does it mean?09:01
Andrew|zAo^ - wheres xorg.conf?09:01
gnomefreakubotu tell martyn_ about nvidia09:01
cheese23Andrew i have tried this i don't have my onboard audio working yet either?09:01
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zAo^Andrew|: /etc/X11/09:01
Andrew|ok09:01
p01n7Wheres the Start button??!?!09:01
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p01n7:P09:01
Andrew|lol p01n7 :D09:01
jxay_ITAciao09:01
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jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:02
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jxay_ITAdir09:02
jxay_ITAcd Desktop09:02
jxay_ITAsu09:02
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p01n7lol..09:02
Wizz_kiddhow cna i edit my sources.list file if i am not in root09:02
jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
p01n7alias dir='ls'09:03
jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
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jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
jxay_ITAcome funziona qui????09:03
Wizz_kiddit lets me read it but not chnage it or add anything09:03
_jasonWizz_kidd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
p01n7enough spam09:03
_jason!es09:03
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:03
Wizz_kiddthanks again :P09:03
Lutany!it09:03
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:03
Wizz_kiddlittle crap like that is whatgets me09:03
DigitalGhekoWizz_kidd, sudo gedit sources.list09:03
Lutanygrazie :)09:03
DigitalGhekoor nano =P09:03
jxay_ITAsorry09:03
_jasonWizz_kidd: for gui apps you use gksudo, so it would be: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'09:03
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sam__is there a specific channel for newbie support?09:04
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jxay_ITAubuntu it come si fa09:04
_jasonsam__: you are in it :)09:04
DigitalGhekosam__, you're in it09:04
sam__ah nice :)09:04
DigitalGhekolol09:04
p01n7just the display environment variable is what matter, right? :S09:04
martyn_how do u mount you ntfs drives09:04
_jasonjxay_ITA: italian?09:04
jxay_ITAyes09:04
_jason!it09:04
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:04
jxay_ITAok ok09:04
schmityvoid^: im not trolling!09:04
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JemtHm, I am trying to share a folder on my laptop using Samba. I have given it a share-name and opened port 137-139 and 445 for incomming connection in my firewall. When I try to access the share on my stationary workstation (mount -t smbfs -o username=usr,password=psw //ip/share-name /media/net) I get "Connection refused". What is wrong?09:05
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phiber_opticDoes anybody know what is jogl.so?09:05
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gnomefreakubotu tell martyn_ about ntfs09:06
ramza3silly me, how do I get a version that is clearly out, but not for ubuntu, for example ruby1.8.409:06
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sam__if anybody fancys helping me out :) I can hear system sounds fine, and cd's when played in sound juicer, but am unable to hear mp3s playing in amaroK etc09:06
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gnomefreakmartyn_: just remember writing to it is not suggested as things may break09:06
nidahhow do i enable dma on my hdc/hdd drive?09:06
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p01n7ramza3, it's called python09:06
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p01n7:P09:06
gnomefreaksam__: did you install the software for mp309:06
ramza3p01n7, my code wont run09:07
_jasonsam__: make sure they use esd as the output too09:07
p01n7install form source or use an up-to-date .deb from their homepage09:07
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gnomefreakubotu tell sam__ about mp309:07
p01n7ramza3 ^^09:07
chuckyp!tell sam__ about restricted09:07
gnomefreaksam__: sent it to you just incase09:07
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p01n7remove the old installation first, ramza309:08
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cheese23would any one like to help me with getting my onboard audio working on my biostar tforce 6100 939?09:09
thomas`i think when i installed my ubuntu i didnt set no swap space at all09:10
thomas`so its running off all ram is this a bad thing?09:10
gnomefreakthomas`: default install did it for you09:10
thomas`it was giving me a hard time when i was trying to set it up09:10
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thomas`u sure gnome freak09:10
rancorusis Cn3D in the repositories somewhere ?09:10
gnomefreakthomas`: im not sure what default size is but im sure that swap is partitioned09:10
pilgrimHi all. I want to install and start sshd. How do I do this in ubuntu?09:11
Andrew|how do i change the login screen to be 800x600? look at this screenshot http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/6016/xorg6zo.png what do i need to change?09:11
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gnomefreakthomas`: is you open terminal and type top you should see swap up there09:11
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gnomefreakthomas`: it should tell you the size of it and how much is free09:12
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void^Andrew|: put the "800x600" before "1024x768"09:12
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thomas`it says09:12
thomas`0total09:12
thomas`0 free09:12
thomas`for swap09:12
Andrew|thanks void^09:12
apollo2011so what was the outcme of the meetings to extend Dapper development?09:12
thomas`i dont think i set it up.. at all09:12
gnomefreakapollo2011: nothing yet09:12
thomas`i remember skipping it to during installation09:12
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pilgrimHow do I install Open-SSH?09:12
rukuarticAnyone know a way to block an IP address from your computer with iptables?09:12
gnomefreakthomas`: did you manully partition the drive?09:13
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apollo2011gnomefreak: ok09:13
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cheese23does anyone know anyother ubuntu rooms?09:13
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thomas`it says 20200k used tho09:13
crimsunkbrooks: please see the wiki for meeting summary09:13
thomas`next to 0free and 0total by swap09:13
pilgrimcheese23, #kubuntu09:13
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crimsunkbrooks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDelayMeetingSummary09:13
nidahstill having issues with dvd playback despite dms on09:13
thomas`i used the instalations format stuff09:13
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nidahstill having issues with dvd playback despite dma being on09:13
thomas`i deleted my old one made it reiserfs09:13
cheese23ohh yeah what is kubuntu all about?09:13
kbrookscrimsun, ty09:13
rukuarticpilgrim: sudo apt-get install openssh09:13
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thomas`i was using ext3 b4 but heard reiserfs is better for gaming09:13
gnomefreakthat could be a reason09:13
chuckypcheese23, its just ubuntu with kde as the desktop instead of gnome09:14
Andrew|xorg.conf is read only...?!09:14
Xanaducheese32: kubuntu is a kde version of ubuntu09:14
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ReWT_whats the best way to move an iso from one computer without a cd burner to one with a cd burner?09:14
rukuarticpilgrim: then after that, make sure if you're running a firewall that you configure ports right09:14
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pilgrimrukuartic, E: Couldn't find package openssh09:14
ReWT_running wireless internet09:14
cheese23do any of you reccommend it09:14
rukuarticReWT_: SSH?09:14
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chuckypReWT_, over the net09:14
cheese23i don't believe in it09:14
rukuarticpilgrim: Hold up real quick09:14
ReWT_rukuaric how would i do that?09:14
gnomefreakext3is default when you changed it to reiserfs you more than likely had to manully add a swap space09:14
XanaduAndrew|: you need root to edit xorg.conf09:14
chuckypReWT_, scp09:14
obliIs there any keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces?09:14
ReWT_scp?09:14
rukuarticpilgrim: sudo apt-get install openssh-server09:14
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gnomefreakcheese23: what seems to be the problem?09:15
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pilgrimcheese23, no because I don't like KDE09:15
Xanaduobli: ctrl-alt-arrow right and left09:15
oblithanks09:15
thomas`is it to late to set swap space09:15
thomas`trying to send u a pic so you can see this09:15
pilgrimrukuartic, thanks. Now the firewall thing? How do I do that?09:15
thomas`make sure everythings fine09:15
thomas`my games run fine09:15
rukuarticReWT_: Download and install openssh, then just use scp09:15
thomas`q4 is flawless09:15
cheese23gnomefreak onboard audio drivers09:15
rukuarticpilgrim: Make sure you have port 22 open :P09:15
Andrew|Xanadu - how do i get in root? sorry i'm new to all this09:15
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chuckypthomas`, no you can make the swap larger later09:15
pilgrimrukuartic, heh. I know that, but how?09:16
Wizz_kiddEvolution seems like a great mail program09:16
gnomefreakthomas`: i think you can do that in fstab but someone else might be able to answer better09:16
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rukuarticpilgrim: Find another computer, and run ssh user@youripaddress09:16
chuckyp!tell Andrew| about sudo09:16
gnomefreakcheese23: what type of card is it09:16
XanaduAndrew|: open a console and type "sudo yourcommand"09:16
thomas`really?  how do i go about making the swap larger09:16
thomas`is it really neccessary09:16
pilgrimrukuartic, no no. How do I get to the firewall config?09:16
thomas`i know alot of my rams being used09:16
Xanaduso to edit xorg.conf, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"09:16
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thomas`700or so outta 1gb09:16
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Xanadusudo = super user do09:16
thomas`but performance wise my pc seems fine09:16
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cheese23the mobo is a tforce 6100 939 with a realtek onboard audio card09:16
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gnomefreakthomas`: how much mem do you have in there?09:16
chuckypthomas`, your fine09:16
rukuarticpilgrim: Are you running a firewall?09:17
thomas`oh ok09:17
ardchoilleI am using Window Maker and want to run an app when Window Maker starts. How would I do that?09:17
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ardchoilleI know to put an "&" in the command but I am unsure as to which file to put the command in. I tried ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession.. neither work. I am on Ubuntu 5.1009:17
pilgrimrukuartic, isn't there a default one runing?09:17
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cheese23nvidia of corse gnomefreak09:17
KezzerDOes anyone have any decent links to a howto for XGL under Ubuntu?09:17
rukuarticpilgrim: Shouldn't be, unless you've got a hardware one (your router)09:17
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chuckypardchoille, you may need the full path to the command i.e. /usr/sbin/<prgram> &09:17
KlohuntDoes anyone know of a way to see if my Nvidia video card is being used?09:18
programador1hello hi09:18
rukuarticpilgrim: If you want, you could make a test user and I could try to get in09:18
KlohuntI just installed the drivers, dunno if they work09:18
ardchoillechuckyp: used that, didn't help09:18
pilgrimrukuartic, yeah the router I got...damn..no firewall eh.....hmm...damn...fedora was nice for this.09:18
hartzbye09:18
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XanaduKezzer:http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=91609:18
ReWT_rukuartic, where do i get open ssh09:18
ReWT_?09:18
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pilgrimrukuartic, I got computer at home. no worries.09:18
Andrew|okay so how do i use sudo to edit xorg.conf?09:18
Lil-AbnerHi. I just finished installig ubuntu and made a major goof. I apparently stopped the downloading of current updates and can't restart them without going into superuser.09:18
rukuarticReWT_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server09:18
moonmani need help extracting a .rar file, it say that its unsupported09:18
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rukuarticLil-Abner: :P Thats ok, just log in as super user. You always have to09:19
Klohuntsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something like that09:19
pilgrimrukuartic, I got computer(s) .so I can test the connection. But the firewall thing is shocking me.09:19
gnomefreakubotu tell moonman about rar09:19
Xanadulol @ Andrew|09:19
ReWT_rukuartic, once that is done, what do i do in open ssh?09:19
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ReWT_sorry new to this stuff09:19
pilgrimReWT_, you can login remotely into your machine :D09:19
rukuarticpilgrim: You're fine O_o don't worry about it. If you can't connect from the outside though, you probably should check to make sure you don't have any problems09:19
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Lil-AbnerThat's the problem, rukuartic. I don't have a pw for superuser, I don't think.09:19
ReWT_How?09:19
rukuarticReWT_: Well, if you want to copy a file09:19
rukuarticReWT_: You'd use this syntax09:20
JemtHm, I am trying to share a folder on my laptop using Samba. I have given it a share-name and opened port 137-139 and 445 for incomming connection in my firewall. When I try to access the share on my stationary workstation (mount -t smbfs -o username=usr,password=psw //ip/share-name /media/net) I get "Connection refused". What is wrong?09:20
Lil-AbnerI was asked to put in a user name and pw for myself but not for root.09:20
rukuarticReWT_: scp username@computer:/path/to/your/file.ext /where/to/save/your/file.ext09:20
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thomas`anyone ever get to successfully update there nvidia card drivers to 8178 with all the gcc changing and all anyone manage to actually get that working? im stuck on 7667 drivers would like to upgrade09:20
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rukuarticLil-Abner: The password you put in is the root's password09:20
chuckyp!tell Lil-Abner about sudo09:20
rukuartic!tell Lil-Abner about root09:20
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jon__!tell Lil-Abner about root09:20
rukuarticXD09:20
jon__ah..beat me to it ;)09:20
ardchoilleLil-Abner: when sudo asks for a password, put in your password09:20
thomas`im kinda scared to mess up my installation again over trying to update videocard drivers.09:21
Lil-AbnerHmm. I  tried that09:21
chuckypI think reading the wiki should be a requirement before you download.09:21
Lil-AbnerWhat is "sudo"?09:21
Jemt!samba09:21
ardchoillechuckyp: lol09:21
chuckypomfg09:21
XanaduJemt: run smbpasswd from console to add a user for samba09:21
ubotuit has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:21
jon__thomas` Just make a backup of your xorg.conf09:21
Kezzerthanks Xanadu =)09:21
ReWT_so it will work if one of us is in windows and the other in ubuntu?09:21
cheese23ok i'm getting an error in kaffeine when i try to open oog files that says ALSA device default not supported09:21
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ReWT_running off the same AP?09:21
JemtXanadu: Of cause - i forgot that. Thanks09:21
Xanadunp Kezzer09:21
Xanadunp09:21
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thomas`yea iknow but its kinda annoying cuz i messed mny stuff all up messing with a howto09:21
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rukuarticLil-Abner: Super user do09:21
samlhey pulled out my network cable :/09:22
thomas`gcc compiler stuff09:22
Andrew|[20:19:24]  <Xanadu> lol @ Andrew| <<--- hey we're all new at some stage! ;-)09:22
mmiikkee12what language is the ubuntu installer written in?09:22
thomas`sheesh i might just wait til dapper rlses09:22
rukuarticReWT_: Use putty for that, go onto google and search for "putty"09:22
XanaduLil-Abner: sudo = superuser od09:22
thomas`i think that comes with 8178..09:22
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XanaduAndrew| not making fun, but still funny09:22
rukuarticReWT_: And in that case, you'd use pscp user@host:/path/to/file C:\Place\To\file09:22
jon__mmiikkee12, I'm pretty sure but don't quote me, python?09:22
ReWT_Im in linux09:22
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mmiikkee12yay, a language i kinda know \o/09:22
ReWT_I'm moving an iso from windows to my linux09:22
rukuarticReWT_: You want to copy from windows to linux, or from linux to windows?09:22
samlhello, I have having a problem with media players e.g. amaroK not playing mp3s09:22
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samlthey play just deliver no sound :/09:23
mmiikkee12last i tried it, it needed serious improvement.09:23
rukuarticReWT_: Ooooh... Can't burn a CD?09:23
ReWT_nope >.<09:23
XanaduLil-Abner: the super user, or root user, is like the ultimate user on the system with permission to do just about anything09:23
ReWT_his notebook is shit09:23
Lil-AbnerDo I enter that in the terminal app? I tried changing directories to root and that didn't work.09:23
rukuarticReWT_: Uhmmm...09:23
ScislaC2 qs... how big is a base install and would ubuntu run "okay" on a 466mhz 486 w/ 256megs?09:23
jon__mmiikkee12, What was wrong with it?09:23
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mmiikkee12let's see...09:23
mmiikkee12no package selector09:23
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jon__mmiikkee12, Besides it being txt only.  I consider that a plus.09:23
ReWT_ruk can u join me in #transferhelp09:23
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ScislaCerrr... 466mhz p109:23
pilgrimrukuartic, SSHing works. How do I open close ports in Ubuntu?09:23
XanaduLil-Abner: to go permanently into super user mode type "sudo -s" but be careful cause you can do some serious damage as super user09:23
jon__mmiikkee12, The 1 CD only installs what you "need" there is no package selection needed.09:23
gnomefreakbrb09:24
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Lil-AbnerWhat is the command to change from user terminal to root terminal? I tried cd / but that didn't work.09:24
mmiikkee12jon__, i don't need openoffice, evolution, whatever other s**t it installs09:24
p01n7ls09:24
p01n7:P09:24
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mmiikkee12Lil-Abner, su09:24
p01n7su, Lil-abner, su09:24
jon__mmiikkee12, Then remove it.09:24
XanaduLil-Abner: You're confusing the root user with the root directory09:24
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jon__mmiikkee12, sudo apt-get remove blah09:25
mmiikkee12jon__, but my point is it's wasting my time to download it and the ubuntu servers' too.09:25
mmiikkee12(the servers' bandwidth, not time)09:25
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samlhello, I have having a problem with media players e.g. amaroK not playing mp3s09:25
samlthey play just deliver no sound :/09:25
Lil-AbnerOh?! What is the difference, Xanadu? I thought they were the same, sorry.09:25
samlcds play fine09:25
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mmiikkee12saml, turn your speakers on ;)09:26
p01n7mmikkee12, why deb? RPM09:26
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samlheheh I wish09:26
jon__mmiikkee12, Well it takes it off the CD, and there's no other versions as far as I know...?  Soo, make a suggestion to have a minimal install CD ;)  Or just install ubuntu as 'server' mode and work your way up from there.09:26
mmiikkee12p01n7, ?09:26
rukuarti1Oww, got disconnected09:26
chuckyp!tell saml about mp309:26
mmiikkee12i like apt09:26
XanaduLil-Abner: / is the root directory. It's called "root" because the directory structure is like a tree, with "root" at the bottom09:26
ReWT_rukuarti1, #transferhelp09:26
fiveironuh.. what is the default ubuntu root password?09:26
mmiikkee12your user pswd09:26
mmiikkee12brb09:26
chuckyp!tell fiveiron aoubt sudo09:26
jon__fiveiron, Same as what you set for your userpassword.09:26
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samlI have installed all the required packages I think09:26
saml:/09:26
Wizz_kiddwhat is a good p2p app for GNOME09:26
fiveironno it isnt09:27
jon__saml, Is sound working *at all*?  for anything?09:27
ohgoodWizz_kidd: bittorrent09:27
XanaduLil-Abner: The directories are like branches of the tree and the files like the leaves, hence the analogy09:27
p01n7i forget.. does ubuntu auto-update?09:27
jon__fiveiron, Should be.09:27
ReWT_or amule09:27
fiveiron!tell fiveiron about sudo09:27
samlyeah it works fine for system sounds and for cds in the juice ripper jobby :)09:27
rukuarti1Arg... I just got disconnected... How do I kick my dead username? (rukuartic)09:27
darkravengood evening, i try to use dapper with xgl, but after setting the simlink he says "couldnt open RGB_DB /usr/share/X11/rgb"?09:27
p01n7wait, no.. the user has to "agree"09:27
XanaduLil-Abner: The "root account" is a user account with permission to do just about anything on the system, like create new users and edit protected files09:27
p01n7alright.09:27
jon__saml, Ah, I remember vaguely hearing about problems with amarok before...09:27
p01n7uid 009:27
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Xanadurukartil: /ghost <username> <password>09:28
samlare there better audio players09:28
Lil-AbnerXanadu, thanks. I just tried to use my user password, but it didn't work. Is it supposed to be invisible? No "*'s"?09:28
samli read somewhere it's the best09:28
chuckypsaml, read the message from ubotu09:28
rukuarti1Xanadu: that a clinet based command? Works with Irssi?09:28
chuckypsaml, I use vlc personally09:28
samlI have thanks09:28
XanaduLil-Abner yeah it's invisible09:28
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Ov3rlordi use ubuntu and gnome meeting for voip telephony but i have one problem : i can't find the option to set my caller id so it does not send any caller id and that is not good.09:28
samlI've installed the packages and that09:29
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samlvlc is the ugleh :P09:29
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Xanadurukuartil: should be a server command (haven't tried it on this server tho)09:29
Lil-AbnerI've got a second desktop open, so I'll try it again. brb09:29
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rukuarticXanadu: Thanks09:29
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chuckypsaml, you can skin vlc09:29
pmontesiis there any other mirror for dapper? ubunut.com is going very slow here09:29
ReWT_rukuartic, #transferhelp     please mate09:29
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ohgoodman, the s/n is pretty bad in here.09:30
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Xanadusaml: you got multiverse repositories enabled? look for gstreamer stuff in Synaptic (there should be a gstreamer-multiverse metapackage) and install those09:30
rukuarticReWT_: /msg me :P09:30
Xanadusaml: once you done that run gst-register0.8 (AFAIR) as a normal user09:30
samlXanadu, I have multiverse enabled, I'll check if i have installed that09:30
Lil-AbnerXanadu, it keeps coming up "authentication failure". Is there a way to verify that I'm not making a mistake typing my pw?09:31
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XanaduLil-Abner: are you the first user on the system?09:31
Lil-AbnerYup. First user and only user. I just installed it.09:31
XanaduLil-Abner: The first user created gets permission to be root, the other users have to be given permission09:32
XanaduLil-Abner: try copy n paste09:32
Lil-AbnerWifey had her own pc w/XP on it.09:32
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XanaduLil-Abner: Paste is ctrl-shift-v in the console (not just ctrl-v like normal)09:32
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lewixyo09:32
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Lil-AbnerWhere do I type original to paste from?09:33
lewixI would like to install dc++ on linux. any idea ?09:33
XanaduLil-Abner: It's caps sensitive so check that too09:33
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samlXanadu, I have already got that package, what command do you mean by "gst-register0.8 (AFAIR)"09:33
grigoradoes anyone know of OpenOffice has Solver capabilities and if so, how can I install it on Ubuntu? Thanks09:33
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samllewix, get wine, it's a windows emulator09:33
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Xanadusaml: should be gst-register-0.8 (my bad)09:33
_jasongrigora: what is Solver?09:34
samlXanadu,09:34
samlXanadu, cheers :)09:34
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grigora_jason: it let's you adjust values in various cells to minimize/maximize a certain cell09:34
devscottHi I was wondering if someone could help me confirm a bug in dapper09:34
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lewixsaml, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2837809:34
Xanadusaml: just lets the system know about the new gstreamer stuff.09:34
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samllewix, cheers09:35
lewix:)09:35
fiveironhmm..09:35
zF!azureus09:35
ubotuazureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo09:35
Xanadusaml: you running under Gnome or KDE?09:35
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samlXanadu, Gnome09:35
_jasongrigora: that's kind of specific.  If no one here knows, you may want to try #OpenOffice.org09:35
rukuarticsaml: WINE = _W_ine _i_s _n_ot an _E_mulator09:35
samlheheheh ok09:35
hypnotichey guys is the new beta out?09:36
samli'm a newb tbh :P09:36
hypnoticwell the new ubunut09:36
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marcyhi09:36
hypnotichi09:36
Lil-AbnerXanadu, some how the pass word is messed up 'cause it doesn't work.09:36
Xanadusaml: I think that Amarok tries to pipe to Alsa but Gnome uses ESD as default09:36
marcyhow can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu09:36
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devscott1.) open volume control09:36
devscott2.) on the volume applet, move the sound all the way down.  see that volume contol slider is now at bottom09:36
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XanaduLil-Anber: you can change your password by running "passwd" from the console09:36
devscott3.) now on the volume applet move it to the middle09:36
devscott4.) volume control slider is still at the bottom and still thinks the volume is muted09:36
aaronshafWhat do I need to "apt-get install" in order to start using "make" (besides "make" itself)?09:36
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marcyhow can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu ?? someone please09:37
ohgoodLil-Abner: whos password exactly ?09:37
seliniumchuckyp, How do you skin vlc?09:37
samlthat was it09:37
rukuarticmarcy: sudo apt-get install kde I think...09:37
samlcheers Xanadu !09:37
_jasonmarcy: install the ubuntu-desktop package09:37
marcythanks09:37
Lil-AbnerOK. Are "console" and "terminal" the same?09:37
Xanaduaaronshaf: build-essential09:37
aaronshafthanks09:37
gnomefreakselinium: i got a package of skins for it have yet to try them tho09:37
paxmasterI am having problem with my sound09:37
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samllewix, that link is ace, thanks! wine looks a bit rubbish :P09:37
paxmasterit was working yesterday09:38
seliniumHi gnomefreak :) Where from?09:38
gnomefreaksynaptic09:38
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PierPPhello doods :)09:38
gnomefreakim assuming breezy has the package also09:38
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Xanadupaxmaster: the question is: what did you do between today and yesterday? ;)09:38
PierPP'lo gnomefreak =)09:38
Lil-Abnerohgood, mine. Xanadu, I'll change my password and see what happens. Thanks.09:39
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marten71hello09:39
paxmasternothing09:39
XanaduLil-Abner: just don't forget it ;)09:39
gnomefreakhi PierPP09:39
fiveironhmm... ok the ubuntu wiki tells me to get xserver-xgl if i want to use xgl, but I can't seem to find "xserver-xgl"09:39
ohgoodLil-Abner: it's as simple as typing : passwd             (as whatever user you wish to change the password for)09:39
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ohgoodLil-Abner: if you forget the password, you can always change it. no big deal.09:39
paxmasterso how would i reconfigure my sound card09:40
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Xanaduohgood: providing you haven't logged out09:40
ohgoodXanadu: anytime. logged out or not doesn't matter.09:40
marten71i am woundering if it is possible to run Ubuntu on a sony portebal and if it can find my wireless card09:40
Xanadupaxmaster: what sound card u using?09:40
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llODxCOll!dapper09:41
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion09:41
rukuarticAnyone had experience with GuildFTPd? ReWT_ needs a bit of help09:41
Xanadumarten71: I'm running on a Sony Vaio now and it works fine09:41
fiveironanyone know if i need to set up a different sources list to get xserver-xgl?09:41
fiveironoh yeah09:41
fiveironnm09:41
fiveironi see it09:41
marten71<Xanadu>cool09:41
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LeeJunFananyone know a fix for install hanging on pci: multiple domains not supported?09:41
paxmasterMaestro-3i pci09:41
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marten71<Xanadu>I have downloaded the dvd and thinking about putting it in09:42
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Falstiusis there a good way to access CDs/DVDs under wine running in a chroot?  I can mount them there directly, but that breaks the normal automount.09:42
kagedoes anyone know of a program for like a 3d window manager?09:42
paxmasterhow i reconfigure alsa09:42
Xanadumarten71: you used Linux before?09:42
paxmasteri forget the command09:42
marten71just little Suse09:42
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marten71<Xanadu>just little suse09:42
ohgoodkage: there are several, all of them gernally unusable.09:43
zFAnyone know of an Azureus  2.4.0.0-1 .deb?09:43
fiveironwow09:43
Xanadupaxmaster: check out System/Prefs/Multimedia Systems Selector09:43
fiveironi really like the package manager09:43
kagei see09:43
gnomefreakyou mean big bulky slow as syrup suse?09:43
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kagethanks09:43
Xanadumarten71: this your main machine? will you still have net access if it doesn't work?09:43
gnomefreak!azureus09:43
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo09:43
ohgoodgnomefreak: suse is slow and bulky ? :\09:43
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Lil-AbnerXanadu and ohgood, apparently I must have added mysefl as a second user 'cause the changing of the password didn't work. I still get an authentication failure at su.09:43
gnomefreakohgood: ohgood yes09:43
paxmasteri am not using gnome09:43
gnomefreak:) sorry had to09:43
marten71<Xanadu>no it is not my main pc it is a spare09:43
signiusHey up09:43
ohgoodgnomefreak: maybe you should append 'imho' ?09:44
marten71<Xanadu>i have it for e-mail09:44
Xanadumarten71: well then I'd say go for it09:44
Ov3rlordcan anybody answer my question ?09:44
ohgoodLil-Abner: su, and your user password are not the same09:44
signiusI installed breezy badger today and then did an apt-get dist-upgrade and all seems fine09:44
gnomefreakok good point IMHO09:44
paxmasterXanadu: I am not using gnome09:44
lewixi have a problem with it though...it doesnt recongnize the command cvs, saml09:44
k31thIs there a way i can mount a lv partion from an ubuntu live cd ?09:44
marten71<Xanadu>do Ubuntu have a good bluetooth support09:44
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signiusbut i have since tried toget my wireless nic working and its not getting any IP info from the DHCP bu wired NIC does09:45
Xanadumarten71: yeah it's okay. Easier to set up in Kubuntu imho09:45
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Lil-Abnerohgood, at the prompt in terminal, I type su after the : ~ $, is that correct?09:45
Xanadupaxmaster: soz running Gnome at the moment09:45
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signiusi have ran dmesg and it looks like its trying to use ipv6 for eth1 which i dont want i want it to use ipv4 is anyone aware of this09:45
marten71<Xanadu>Ok thanks alot09:45
marlunWhat does Ubuntu add to debian? I know it's based on debian but whats added that makes it better?09:45
XanaduLil-Abner: try type "sudo -s" (without the inverted commas)09:45
ohgoodLil-Abner: usually, 'su -' is what i use, but if your root password has changed, you'll have to boot 'single' mode to change it again.09:46
Lil-AbnerThe prompt gives my name, ubuntu and my computer name.09:46
GigaClonlots of repos, lots of hardware autodection09:46
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Lil-Abnerok09:46
gnomefreakmarlun: its newer packages (for most part) its 6 month release cycle better hardware detection09:46
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gnomefreakand use of sudo :)09:46
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marlungnomefreak: ok so the main part is that it's newer packages and better hardware detection?09:47
Xanadumarten71: I've managed to send files and stuff thru bluetooth without too much hassle. Just check for "bluez" in the repository (look for something called Synaptic under System/Admin after install to see all available packages)09:47
mmiikkee12"About 1,000 pieces of software are installed by default, out of the basic fully supported software list of 1,300 packages." - there's something wrong there.09:47
Xanadumarten71: I think that a lot of the bluetooth stuff might just install out of the box with Breezy09:47
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gnomefreakmarlun: yep for the most part there are other things but too much to name09:47
kageThe new version of Ubuntu is named Breezy right?09:48
Xanadukage: current version is breezy09:48
Xanadukage: next version is Dapper Drake09:48
La_PaRCakage, that is the latest stable one. The development one is called dapper.09:48
marten71<Xanadu>thanks again09:48
kageThanks.  To update to that, do I just rename the hoary repos to breezy ones in sources.list?09:48
gnomefreakkage: the latest stable is named breezy badger 5.10 sort of09:48
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gnomefreak!upgrade09:49
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.09:49
gnomefreak^^kage the first link09:49
Xanadukage: yeah and then run "apt-get update", "apt-get dist-upgrade" (as opposed to apt-get upgrade like normal)09:49
gnomefreakmake sure ubuntu-desktop is installed first09:49
signiusAnyone got any ideas regarding this IPV6 stuff and disabling so eth1 uses IPV4 ?09:49
Xanadukage: make sure you've got a good book to read while it installs ;)09:49
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gnomefreak!ipv609:49
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:50
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_jasonipv609:50
paxmasterhow come in ubuntu it don't have alsaconfig09:50
gnomefreakpaxmaster: iirc you have to install it09:50
kageThanks09:50
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Xanadualsactl?09:50
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signiusu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:50
signiusooops09:50
signiussorry09:50
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fell_salut09:51
gatpandoahi09:51
_jason!FR09:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:51
gatpandoaneed help with 3 things09:51
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jordiablotell us ....09:51
Falstiusgatpandoa, only the first hit is free :)09:51
Xanadupaxmaster: it's a long shot cause I got a different card but one prob I had was that "external mixer" was turned on, which stopped sound from working09:51
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gatpandoa1.dvd playback issue despite dma enabled and I/o 32 bit09:52
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Xanadugatpandoa: 1. what's the issue? Jerky or just not working?09:52
gatpandoajerky09:52
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dexili need help with a simple thing. Just downloaded j2se (a *.bin) and i know i have to make a .deb-file out of it. What is the command?09:53
craizehey hey09:53
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_jasonubotu: tell dexil about java09:53
ohgooddexil: you don't. you execute it.09:53
gnomefreakubotu tell dexil about javadebs09:53
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Xanadugatpandoa: what player and basic specs on your machine?09:53
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_jasonohgood: no, he's right.  It's better to make a deb09:53
craize!tell craize about ATI09:53
ohgood_jason: why ?09:53
dexilhow do i execute it ohgood ?09:53
silvaranohgood: java-package has support for .bin -> .deb to facilitate easy installation09:53
gatpandoaspecs p3 800mhz 320 mb ram09:53
silvarandexil: Don't, just follow the howto09:53
_jasonohgood: so that you can remove it easily with the package manager later if you want09:53
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dexilok :)09:54
gnomefreakdexil: follow the link ubotu sent you09:54
signiushmmm has breezy switched from using dhcpd to dhcp3 ?09:54
signiusappears wuite a few people experiencing the same problem as myself09:54
Xanadugatpandoa: what player?09:54
gatpandoacan use totem ,& ogle mplayer refuses to play file09:54
cheese23AOpen 4 Channel PCI Soundcard AW-840 is this a good ubuntu soundcard09:54
justintime32hey, does anyone know how to remove the bcm43xx driver from dapper?09:54
ohgood_jason: <shrug> rm -rf /opt/something  is too difficult ?09:54
silvaranjustintime32: blacklist it09:54
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Xanadugatpandoa: maybe try vlc or mplayer - both are superiour to totem imnsho09:54
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craizewow09:54
_jasonohgood: the point isn't difficulty, it is a lot more convenient to use apt09:54
craizexchat changed quite a bit :(09:55
gatpandoamplayer refuses any suggestions?09:55
justintime32yeah, i did that09:55
hypnotici upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10.. now i cannot find my command prompt can someone help09:55
nickrudjustintime32, you can add the driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ , that will prevent it from loading09:55
cheese23ok it would be in09:55
ohgoodhmm09:55
justintime32but is there a way to completely remove it09:55
gnomefreakhypnotic: applications>accessories>terminal09:55
justintime32it screws up ndiswrapper09:55
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Xanadugatpandoa: upgrade hardware?09:55
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hypnoticgnomefreak: you are awesome!09:55
cheese23hypnotik applications accessories terminal or ctrl+alt+f209:56
abonillaDoes anyone know if moving right now from Breezy to Dapper is safe?09:56
nickrudjustintime32, it won't affect anything if it isn't loaded09:56
Xanadugatpandoa: you got the decss stuff installed?09:56
silvaranjustintime32: It's part of linux-image ... Dapper right?09:56
justintime32yeah09:56
gnomefreakty but i didnt do anything :(09:56
gatpandoau/g hardware to?09:56
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abonilla!dapper09:56
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion09:56
silvaranPut "blacklist bcm43xx" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist09:56
justintime32i did that and added ndiswrapper to load at boot, but there are a couple problems09:56
PierPP!debian09:56
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/09:56
PierPP=)09:56
gnomefreakabonilla: there is no such thing as safe in dapper hence the term testing/unstable09:56
silvaranjustintime32: What kinds of problems?09:56
gatpandoadecss? is?09:57
justintime321. it won't start the interface at boot (i have to do that once i log in)09:57
_jasonohgood: you are right that both methods would work.  But if you install a lot of things without using apt, then it becomes more and more difficult to figure out where things get installed to09:57
abonillagnomefreak: is like a month from release and is on freeze. but OK.09:57
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justintime322. it is still eth0 when it should be wlan009:57
Xanadugatpandoa: decodes encrypted DVDs and should make DVD playback much better09:57
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gnomefreakabonilla: dont be so sure about that09:57
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PSP1337Anyone knows how to change the menu bar applet icon size (16px) in gnome?09:57
gnomefreakabonilla: looking at a 6 week delay09:57
silvaranjustintime32: You could add "ndiswrapper" to /etc/modules and do "lsmod|grep bcm" to make sure the bcm43xx driver isn't still being loaded.09:57
justintime32it's wlan0 in dmesg, but not in everything else09:57
gatpandoawhere do i fetch decodes?09:57
gnomefreakabonilla: also its still alpha09:57
paxmasterit lol working09:57
Xanadugatpandoa: just looking for link09:58
abonillagnomefreak: I know. i hope they add NM there too.09:58
Xanadupaxmaster: what you do? turn the speakers on? ;P09:58
justintime32right now it's not loaded09:58
_jason!dvd09:58
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)09:58
paxmasterna09:58
silvaranjustintime32: Do an "ifconfig wlan0" -- do you get anything?09:58
dhewgcan i compile a 32bit i386 kernel on a 64bit ubuntu box?09:58
silvaranjustintime32: It's possibly not being listed elsewhere because it's not configured.09:58
justintime32that's the weird thing09:58
justintime32it should be wlan009:58
justintime32but it's eth009:58
gatpandoalink for decss?09:58
ohgood_jason: interesting.09:58
paxmastersome reason when it boot it didn't detect the sound card09:59
silvaranjustintime32: Sounds like you either have the wrong windows driver, or bcm43xx is still being loaded09:59
paxmasterso I restart it09:59
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paxmasterpeace of cake09:59
_jasongatpandoa: do you mean libdvdcss?09:59
justintime32i manually did a rmmod and unloaded it09:59
justintime32and i used the same windows driver that i've used before09:59
Xanadugatpandoa: you'll find it in the repositories - like where ubotu said09:59
obliCould someone help me with creating a script for batch renaming of files?09:59
signiusok made changes to /etc/modeprobe fingers crossed no more IPV6 problems09:59
_jasonobli: you already have one, it's called 'rename'09:59
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cheese23puts in a dip of skoal peach09:59
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silvaranjustintime32: Not sure that would cut it... you might want to stick "ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules, reboot, and lsmod to make sure bcm43xx is gone.10:00
oblioh, nifty10:00
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justintime32ndiswrapper is in /etc/modules10:00
silvaranjustintime32: If dmesg lists it as "wlan0", then there's no question, it's not eth0, eth0 must be an ethernet card.10:00
vsivakhi10:00
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vsivaka have some problem with gcc10:01
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gnomefreakvsivak: what is it10:01
justintime32i have eth0 and eth110:01
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justintime32eth1 is the network card10:01
vsivakgcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory10:01
justintime32when i installed it, it detected the wireless card as eth010:01
gnomefreakvsivak: sudo apt-get isntall build-essential10:01
justintime32(using the bcm driver)10:01
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craizehow can i check if my hardware acceleration is working ?10:02
silvaranYeah, but you don't want the bcm driver... you want the ndiswrapper driver with the win32 driver.10:02
justintime32yeah10:02
silvaranjustintime32: Reboot and pastebin your dmesg10:02
Xanaducraize: for your vid card?10:02
craizeyah10:02
erUSULvsivak, try reinstalling sudo apt-get install build-essentials10:02
justintime32ok10:02
vsivakok10:02
vsivakoO another error10:02
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vsivakubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get isntall build-essential10:02
vsivakE: Invalid operation isntall10:02
gatpandoatried vlc and i think i already have libdvdcss10:03
_jasonvsivak: install not isntla10:03
Xanaduvsivak: install not isntall10:03
Falstiusvsivak, you need to spell it right :)10:03
justintime32how can i add a dirver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/10:03
justintime32driver*10:03
Xanadunah it was gnomefreak spelt it wrong10:03
craizeanyone knows?10:03
sobersabrehi... Is there a backport of gnome 2.14 into breezy ?10:03
silvaranjustintime32: Just use modprobe.d/blacklist instead ("blacklist bcm43xx")10:03
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justintime32ok10:04
Xanaducraize: glxgears -printfps10:04
craizethanks Xanadu10:04
vsivaki say and also write install10:04
vsivakwhat do you mean instla10:04
vsivak:)10:04
sobersabregnomefreak have you rtfm'ed about filesystemz stucture already ?10:04
justintime32is there a difference between modprobe and hotplug10:04
craizehrm10:04
Xanaduif your framerate is over 1000 your 3D acceleration is probably working10:04
craizedoesnt seem to work10:04
sobersabrejustintime32 of course :)10:04
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craizectrl + alt + backspace restarts X11 right?10:04
silvaranXanadu: Or it's a really, really, really tiny glxgears window :)10:04
jbroomey10:04
vsivakok i see10:04
sobersabrecraize not rite!10:04
craizeso it should be hardware accelerated if i added the fireGL drivers10:04
Xanadusilvaran: or you got a killer processor10:04
silvaranHeheh10:04
sobersabrecraize Alt+Ctl+Backspace kills X.10:05
craizeso i need to reboot the whole box ?10:05
craizeah10:05
justintime32ok, rebooting...10:05
craizewell i installed the driver10:05
craizeand told it to use fglx10:05
Xanaducraize: no you probably don't need to reboot10:05
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craizeweird10:05
sobersabrejustintime32 why are you rebootuing ?10:05
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craizeit worked previously fine10:05
sobersabretoo late.10:05
Xanadubut u need to add fglrx as the driver to xorg.conf10:05
obliWhat would the command for 'rename' be to omit an extra '.mp3' in the file names? my files are called file.mp3.mp310:05
craizehmmmz10:05
craizeim gonna double check10:05
oblithey're all in subfolders, by the way10:05
craizexorg.conf resides where?10:05
Xanadu/etc/X11/xorg.conf10:06
gnomefreaksobersabre: im gonna read up more tomorrow ive been sort of busy and its almost time to eat :)10:06
Falstiusobli, rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" *mp310:06
craizethx10:06
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obliok, thanks10:06
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Falstiusobli, uhm, if they're in subfolders you need more10:06
Xanaducraize: if the drivers are "ati" then it's the ones that come with Ubuntu. If it's "fglrx" then that's what you want.10:06
craizeyeah it says it right10:06
craizeno they are "fglrx"10:06
silvaranrename "s/\.mp3$//" *mp3 <-- HAH shorter :)10:06
ReWT_anyone here ever use guild ftpd?10:06
craizein the conf10:06
Xanaduand you restarted X yet?10:06
craizeim gonna try killing X10:06
craizeyes once10:07
craizewith ctrl + alt + backspace10:07
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sobersabreREPEATING: is there a backport of gnome 2.14 for breezy ?10:07
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Falstiusobli, silvaran, I always forget the regexp niceties.10:07
silvaransobersabre: NO, you need to wait for Dapper.10:07
paxmasternow it have no sould10:07
paxmasternow it have no sound *10:07
Xanaduokay try again10:07
silvaranFalstius: All is fair, I wasn't aware of the "rename" util :)10:07
gnomefreaksobersabre: no10:07
sobersabresilvaran or build it myself, or use Debian pacakge....10:07
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Falstiussilvaran, the ubuntu rename works differently than the redhat ... confused me for awhile.10:07
craizebrb10:08
silvaranAhh...10:08
gnomefreaksobersabre: 2.14 was released this morning10:08
Xanadupaxmaster: you sure the sound card is plugged in nice and snug? might be reason for it sometimes working and sometimes not10:08
sobersabregnomefreak SO WHAT ?!?!10:08
silvarangnomefreak: But will never be in the breezy repo -- since it's what dapper's for.10:08
sobersabreit is in dapper already.10:08
oblisilvaran, didn't seem to work on the subdirs10:08
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Falstiusobli, it won't ... didn't read that part at first :)10:08
gnomefreaksobersabre: this am10:08
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oblioh10:08
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kolosudoalguien habla espanol?10:09
gnomefreaksilvaran: it might be im not writing the backports for ubuntu10:09
gnomefreak!es10:09
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silvaran!es10:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:09
sobersabrekolosudo try ubuntu-es10:09
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Enchanter_timhello10:09
ploomkhm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?10:09
cyphasemy brezzy machine is crashing soon after logon10:09
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OhmHey guys, somebody use the PYTONE?10:09
Falstiusobli, you need: find . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;10:09
cyphasebreezy*10:09
sobersabrecyphase what lang have you used before ?10:09
Xanaducyphase: at what point does it crash?10:09
silvarangnomefreak: There are backports for gnome?10:09
obliok, trying it10:10
gnomefreaksilvaran: not yet10:10
cyphasesobersabre, ?10:10
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Enchanter_timis there a way to use newer versions of certain packages than are available in breezy ?10:10
sobersabreI meant ploom10:10
Falstiusobli, you can pass the -n option to rename the first time for a "test run"10:10
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mischkoHow to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?10:10
cyphaseXanadu, soon after i log on and everything has started (gaim, xchat, etc)10:10
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gnomefreaki havent yet heard plans on there being one since gnome 2.14 was released this morning10:10
sobersabreploom what lang is this: "khm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?"10:10
obliI'm testing it on a separate folder, it didn't seem to work, not even on the file not in a subfolder10:11
ploomEesti keel, sobersabre10:11
sobersabremischko you've messed up repositories10:11
Enchanter_tim(for example, i have libgcrypt11  1.2.1-3 but i need >= 1.2.210:11
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cyphaseXanadu, i start to use a program, and soon, it crashes10:11
sobersabreestonian ?10:11
gnomefreakEnchanter_tim: enable backports for some packages im have ubotu pm you the link10:11
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cyphasevarious programs10:11
sobersabreploom ... estonian ?10:11
justintime32ok, it's still eth010:11
gnomefreakubotu tell Enchanter_tim about backports10:11
Ohmsomebody use the PYTONE for plays mp3?10:11
ploomsobersabre, natuke vru murraku poole, aga eesti jah :-)10:11
mischkosobersabre, I don't have it hooked to the network. It's only getting things from CD. New install.10:11
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Xanaducyphase: might be a hardware problem or incompatibility10:11
Enchanter_timgnomefreak: thanks, ill check it out10:11
Falstiusobli, I probably had a typo ...10:11
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craizeuhm, this is weird, the first 2 seconds the glxgears runs at a proper framerate, but it drops over to software? my xorg.conf is fine and tells it to use fglrx.... any takers? :(10:11
sobersabreploom I have no idea what have you typed.10:11
cyphaseXanadu, it started when i was running vncviewer10:12
ploomsobersabre, you should know, your name sounds like friendsabre when taken in estonian :-)10:12
cyphasethen kept going10:12
oblifind . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;        ?10:12
Xanaducraize: try aticonfig10:12
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craizeok10:12
Falstiusobli, find . -name "*mp3" -exec rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" \{} \;10:12
craizexanadu, what i do with ati config?10:12
justintime32the bcm43xx module isn't loaded, and it's still eth010:12
gnomefreakEnchanter_tim: they are unoffical you use tham at own risk10:12
Falstiusnot that I don't trust silvaran, but I know my switch will work :)10:13
Xanaducraize: not entirely sure - don't have an ati card :/10:13
silvaranobli: Go with Falstius -- my regex will end up renaming the files you've already renamed10:13
Enchanter_timgnomefreak: well, if i dont, things wont work :D10:13
silvaranjustintime32: What does iwconfig say about your interfaces?10:13
obliaye, that's it, worked like a charm, my F2 button is grateful10:13
ploomsobersabre, but I guess you chose the name for sobre (as not drunk in english) rather than friend (sber) :-)10:13
craizeXanadu: , thanks anyhow :)10:13
silvaranjustintime32: And can you pastebin your dmesg?10:13
Xanaducraize: there's also a howto in the ubuntuforums on how to install the latest ATI drivers10:13
justintime32it says eth0 too10:13
gnomefreak!ati10:13
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358910:13
Xanaducraize: also saw that ATI released new Linux drivers like yesterday10:13
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silvaranjustintime32: pastebin time :)10:14
justintime32[4294696.570000]  ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Linksys,02/12/2003, 3.10.39.7) loaded10:14
justintime32[4294696.571000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:09.0[A]  -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 20910:14
justintime32[4294696.660000]  ndiswrapper: using irq 20910:14
justintime32[4294697.670000]  wlan0: vendor: ''10:14
justintime32[4294697.670000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0c:41:14:17:97 using driver bcmwl5, 14E4:4320.5.conf10:14
justintime32[4294697.670000]  ndiswrapper (set_auth_mode:686): setting auth mode to 3 failed (C0010015)10:14
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justintime32[4294697.670000]  wlan0: encryption modes supported: none10:14
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silvaranjustintime32: Nonono10:14
silvaran!paste10:14
gnomefreakjustintime32: use pastebin please10:14
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.10:14
siggiwhere can I see what version of kubuntu im using ?? like breezy or what ?10:14
silvaranjustintime32: After you've submitted to ubotu's link, post the link to it in this channel.10:14
justintime32sorry, what's that (i'm a noob)10:14
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sobersabreploom I really have no idea in "Estii" or whatever it is. I have very little knowledge in any baltic language...10:15
gnomefreaksiggi: iirc there is an about in the menu but its been so long since i used kde it might have changed10:15
zFGrrr!10:15
silvaranjustintime32: Go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, submit your entire dmesg, and send us the link it provides you with.10:15
zFI hate CUPS!10:15
ploomsiggi, cat /etc/issue would help I guess10:15
zFI remove it10:15
zFand somehow it gets reinstalled.10:15
gnomefreakzF: its part of gnome10:15
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ploomsobersabre, you know its baltic - thats a start10:15
justintime32ok10:15
sobersabrezF CUPS is dependency for many things.10:15
JDahlsiggi, you don't know if you installed breezy or another version?10:15
siggiploom: thakns :D10:15
zFit keeps an open port running, gnomefreak - isn't it just for printing?10:15
sobersabreploom, c'mon, my gf/bride is from Riga.10:16
hypnotichey guys how can i get access to my backup drive (it's a windows formatted hd)10:16
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gnomefreakJDahl: he wants to know kde version i think10:16
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Enchanter_timgnomefreak: thanks, it doesnt solve my issue, but it might be helpfull knowing that :D10:16
siggiim just messing with it a lot :)10:16
nargwhy is it that pressing shift+backspace or shift+enter restarts x? It is usually only ctrl+alt+backspace...10:16
gnomefreakhypnotic: ntsf or fat10:16
cyphasehypnotic, on breezy?10:16
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ploomsobersabre, damn - they really are beautiful down south there10:16
OmegaAlphahello, i have a problem with 3dpoker-server that i tried installing a month ago. it never fully installed so now when i install anything it keeps trying to finish installing but then gets an error about mysql and connecting? anyone know how i can remove this package from installing.. i dont want it10:16
Xanadunarg: it shouldn't (but I'm not going to try it)10:16
sobersabre:)10:16
casnarg: because you use xgl?10:16
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sobersabreok kids, must continue working... will build the gnome for breezy later on.10:17
Enchanter_timxgl works?10:17
ploomsobersabre, but the latvian language is so different - its as similar to lithuanian as estonian is to finnish10:17
gnomefreak!xgl10:17
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:17
nargcas: I've toyed with it, but I'm on xorg atm (I think :p) /etc/X11/X points to xorg.10:17
cyphasehypnotic, on breezy?10:17
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nickrudzF, cups only listens to localhost on that port by default10:18
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Enchanter_timit doesnt work on the ati mobility chipset, i think10:18
sobersabreploom I am sure it is more than romano-germanic group. I mean, I looked at texts in either of the 4 languages, and they have similarities.10:18
sailorI've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?10:18
gatpandoai have libdvdcss enabled via synaptic10:18
Enchanter_tim(well, last i tried, it broke my display)10:18
siggiJDahl: im pretty new to kubuntu and now im messing with xgl setup and just dit apt-get dist-upgrade10:18
gatpandoastill issue with dvd10:18
gnomefreakEnchanter_tim: it wont work for alot of people10:18
sobersabreI don't know how they sound like, but written form has some similarities.10:18
sobersabrebye10:18
silvaransailor: Loose video card on the motherboard?10:18
justintime32here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023710:18
Xanadugatpandoa: try mplayer now10:18
ploomno - estonian is ugri or finnish language group10:18
nargcas: so are those the shortcuts in xgl to restart it?10:18
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sailorsilvaran: no, it boots windows or a live cd just fine, so its not hardware10:18
hypnoticcyphase: i am on the newest ubuntu10:19
casnarg: dunno then, I know this is a xgl/compiz bug, so I think it's weird you have it with the normal X10:19
ploomand latvian is romanian i guess - at least really different10:19
kriduninkHello.10:19
arnoudHey10:19
Enchanter_timgnomefreak: the weird thing is, it sort of works. i get it working with kdm, then when i try to use a windomanager it either dies (goes back to kdm,no mouse and keyboard) or it fails to properly initialize a windowmanager10:19
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cyphasehypnotic, System -> Administration -> Disks10:19
nargcas: hrm. I can't get Xgl to even start on mine, even though I have the most vanilla nvidia card out there :p Very odd.10:19
arnoudAnyone known with SuSe Linux 10.0?10:19
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kriduninkI am new to linux. Can any one help with a totem error?10:19
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silvaranjustintime32: eth0 is your RealTek card, wlan0 is your wireless... do you get normal output with "iwconfig wlan0" ?10:20
craizeim back :(10:20
seliniumgnomefreak, I have look in the repos and cant find any vlc skins? Have you got any strange repos in your sources?10:20
gatpandoaerror opening/initializing selected video is what mplayer says10:20
gnomefreakEnchanter_tim: that is highly unstable10:20
ssamkridunink, whats the error10:20
ReWT_anyone here ever use guild ftpd?10:20
lewixkridunink, im new too and i have an errot with totem but I dont use that i use rythmic box instead10:20
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JDahlsiggi, I dont think you will have changed the version of KDE just by doing an upgrade. Breezy should be kde3.4 and Dapper should be kde3.510:20
richard_hi there. i have a probelm with my wlan device. after updating to dapper drake i have no wlan0 device anymore10:20
sailoranyone else have any ideas?10:20
alessandro_anyone have a asus a2k notebook? query me...10:20
gnomefreakselinium: ofcourse i do i wouldnt be me if i didnt :)10:20
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Xanadugatpandoa: what does "hdparm -d /dev/dvd" tell you?10:20
richard_i use ndiswrapper10:20
Enchanter_timgnomefreak: indeed :D im not complaining though. if i break it, i get to fix it again :D10:20
kriduninkssa, Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing10:20
hypnoticcyphase: it says inaccessible.. even when i click enable10:20
gnomefreakbut really selinium they should be in multiverse i would think10:20
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casnarg: try xgl-ubuntu for xgl related stuff, I do think you allready run xgl because of this bug but you have problems with compiz10:21
justintime32wlan0     No such device10:21
seliniumgnomefreak, lol, that would explain it. I have multiverse....10:21
ssamkridunink, what are you trying to play10:21
silvaranrichard_: Do you have a broadcom-based device? (ie: bcmwl5)?10:21
richard_yes10:21
casnarg: i ment #xgl-ubuntu10:21
lewixssam, are you saml ?10:21
justintime32i can do the pastebin for the whole iwconfig output10:21
sureshotHello can anyone tell me if there is a linux or ubuntu equivlent to the microsoft phone manage for the ms 900 phone manager10:21
richard_i have a linksys pci wireless card with the bcmwl5 driver10:21
ssamlewix, no sorry10:21
JDahlsiggi, maybe that sounded a bit vague.. you will _not_ have changed the version of KDE just by playing around with upgrades etc - there's only one version in the repositories10:21
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hypnoticcyphase: do i need to add a access path?10:21
nargcas: ...how would I be running xgl? the X symlink points to Xorg :p10:21
seliniumgnomefreak, I am pretty sure I have!.... [sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list]   :)10:21
kriduninkssa, it is a mpg file. I got codecs and packages info from a forum.10:21
silvaranjustintime32: Sure, and also ifconfig -a would help10:21
gatpandoa/dev/dvd using dma=1 (on)10:21
justintime32ok10:21
gatpandoathats all10:21
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cyphasehypnotic, yes10:22
gnomefreakselinium: it may only be in dapper also10:22
craizeanyone got a Radeon 9700 Pro to be hardware accelerated? I installed the driver, its used from xorg.conf too, but it still only gives me ~180FPS when running glxgears....10:22
ssamkridunink, does any sound play from other applications?10:22
Xanadugatpandoa: could be video card, or a lot of other stuff10:22
nargcas: its #ubuntu-xgl btw ;)10:22
casnarg: I only changed my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf10:22
silvaranrichard_: Dapper comes with an experimental bcm43xx driver .. I haven't got it to work, neither has justintime32 :).  Shoot where's that wiki?  I know there's a page for switching back to ndiswrapper...10:22
hypnoticcyphase: what should i put the access path at? desktop?10:22
gnomefreakselinium: the name of package iirc is vlc-skins but dont hold me to that10:22
casnarg: neh, #xgl-ubuntu has better support :P10:22
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seliniumgnomefreak, cheers.10:22
kriduninkssam, yes on boot up and sounds from using ubuntu10:22
richard_silvaran: thanks, that was a usefull hint. I'll try to find it10:23
justintime32apparently, the bcm43xx only works on some wmp54g cards10:23
nargcas: woah, two channels. Odd :p10:23
gnomefreakselinium: check on packages.ubuntu.com10:23
martyn_can an1 point me in the right direction on how to install drivers for a nvida 7800gt grapics card10:23
cyphasehypnotic, look in the wiki. wiki.ubuntu.com . i'm in the middle of a crisis right now :S10:23
gnomefreakubotu tell martyn_ about nvidia10:23
gatpandoahmmm10:23
ssamkridunink, ok, what other programs do you have open? some programs are rude and block the sound from other10:23
justintime32here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023810:23
gnomefreakmartyn_: your pm has instructions10:23
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sureshotis there any such software to handle a phone and such for telephone connected to the serial port10:23
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silvaranrichard_: Check out section "2.3.3" of  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28bcm43xx%2910:23
sailor I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?10:23
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silvaranThis should really be in #ubuntu+1, but now we've got 3 broadcom people in here already :)10:24
Xanaducraize: did you install the linux-restricted-modules packages?10:24
thomas`how do you benchmark with glxgears?10:24
gnomefreak!broadcom10:24
ubotubroadcom is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards10:24
thomas`to see your fps? cuz id like to seemine10:24
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gatpandoathat brings me the the graphic card question i have 2 graphic card one is an nvidia which is an add on vga card10:24
richard_silvaran: great!!10:24
kriduninkssam, i just have the disks manager and file system and a couple of internet open. no other apps.10:24
gnomefreakthomas`: glxgears -printfps and its not a benchmark10:24
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thomas`cool10:24
gatpandoahow do i enable that and enabble ubuntu to see it as an add on vga10:24
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weedarsilvaran, I use the bcmwl5a module in ndiswrapper too, do I count? :)10:24
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craizeXanadu: yes i believe so10:24
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gnomefreakgatpandoa: use the nvidia if i were you10:25
ssamkridunink, do you have firefox on a page with flash? that might do it10:25
craizefor 38610:25
silvaranweedar: Yup, so that's 4 :)10:25
Falstiusgatpandoa, you want two screens or?10:25
seliniumgnomefreak, only shows the ones I have in my repos...10:25
craizelast time i did it for 686, then it worked10:25
thomas`i get 10,700fps10:25
gatpandoano one screen is fine10:25
craizeguess im gonna try that10:25
thomas`in glx gears10:25
Xanaduthomas`: yeah it's not authorative in any way but if you change something in the drivers and you run it again and you get more fps, it's a good sign10:25
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thomas`nice lol.10:25
silvaranjustintime32: That is some weird, wild funky stuff... you've got dmesg spouting out wlan0 but finally settling on eth0 after assigning eth0 away to your realtek card!!! (only I didn't believe you at first :)10:25
justintime32i know10:25
MisterNhi10:25
erUSULsailor, try looking at /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:25
craizetell CraiZE about ati10:25
justintime32i'm not a linux noob, an irc noob10:25
Enchanter_timthomas`: or minimize glxgears and get more fps ;)10:25
kriduninkssam, i think not. there seems to be no flash up, just forums from ubuntu10:25
craizehrmm10:25
craizethe bot isnt msging me .(10:25
Specjustintime32: what's up?10:25
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urmomhowdy would any of you know where to get a pcb for my westerndigital caviar 8oGB EIDE or if this would even be a plausable alternative to RMAing it?10:26
gatpandoabut il have to enable nvidia as as on in cmos10:26
craize!tell CraiZE about ATI10:26
justintime32on breezy, without the bcm driver, it worked fine10:26
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Specjustintime32: you're trying to use bcm43xx?10:26
gatpandoaquestion is i can do that but how will ubuntu know its an add on10:26
justintime32nope, that didn't work10:26
silvaranjustintime32: If you get a chance, try sending your 2 pastebin links http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 to #ubuntu+1 -- they may have more experience with it, since dapper made the executive decision to stick the bcm43xx into dapper.10:26
justintime32i'm trying ndiswrapper10:26
Xanaducraize: what does "uname -r" tell you?10:26
gatpandoaand where and how do i eanble nvidia in ubuntu10:26
Specjustintime32: what kernel are you running?10:26
silvaranSpec: We've disabled it (seemingly) by blacklisting it.10:26
ssamkridunink, ok, i recommend that you try a couple of other video players, totem is not that good yet10:26
urmomneed a wd PCB10:26
Specjustintime32: lsmod |grep -i bcm please10:26
ssamkridunink, xine and vlc are quite good10:27
justintime322.6.15-18-38610:27
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kriduninkssam, ok cool thanks. alot i will try that.10:27
silvaranSpec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 if I can rope you into this one :)10:27
justintime32Spec: it returns nothing10:27
ssamkridunink, are you ok at installing stuff?10:27
Specexcellent10:27
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Specdid it load when you booted?10:27
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Specor have you since rebooted since blacklisting?10:27
gouchiHi10:27
Specif it loaded when you booted, be sure to rmmod ndiswrapper;modprobe ndiswrapper10:27
justintime32nope10:28
urmomhelp with finding a new PCB for my harddrive any one?10:28
justintime32i blacklisted it10:28
Specthen rebooted?10:28
weedarsilvaran, sorry for butting in the conversation =) but does this mean that when dapper is released we will have an alternative to ndiswrapper?10:28
kriduninkssam, it takes me a little while to figure it out. only had linux for three days. i have to use a terminal and type in the code right?10:28
Specyes10:28
silvaranjustintime32: Is it still working okay, even with the erroneous device assignments?10:28
justintime32yeah10:28
Specweedar: i don't use ndiswrapper10:28
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sailoranyone?10:28
Specweedar: i have a bcm430610:28
gatpandoaany help with nvidia?10:28
ssamkridunink, you can use system -> administation -> synaptic package manger10:28
silvaranweedar: For only 1-2 specific wireless cards, and the driver is currently experimental.  And you still need to manually extract the proprietary firmware from the windows .sys drivers.10:28
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Xanadusailor whats the question?10:28
Specsilvaran: no you don't10:29
Specsilvaran: there are unofficial debs available10:29
justintime32the internet is working10:29
Specjustintime32: hmm?10:29
justintime32however, i still have to manually start it each time10:29
Xanadugatpandoa: you can download basic nvidia drivers through synaptic10:29
weedarSpec, ah. I'm using a belkin card, but it uses the same chip it would seem10:29
kriduninkssam, oh yeah that too. thanks. and i have to make the new one the primary player right10:29
gouchiHi10:29
justintime32and i can't access my own computer10:29
silvaranSpec: Ahhh... still.10:29
Specjustintime32: manually start what?10:29
justintime32for example, i have an apache server running10:29
justintime32and i can't access it from localhost10:29
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ssamkridunink, if you right click on a file you can choose play with -> xine10:29
sailor I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?10:29
justintime32Spec: the wireless card10:29
Xanadugatpandoa: or get the linux drivers from nvidia.com which I always find a little tricky to install10:29
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Specis apache bound to a specific ip?10:29
gouchiwhich new tool allow to manage right user ? I don't remember10:30
justintime32nope10:30
Specjustintime32: okay, so, you can get the wireless card to work with ndiswrapper?10:30
justintime32however, i forwarded port 8080 to my pc (the port apache runs on)10:30
gouchithere is Sabayon and ? something like Persoluss10:30
Xanadugatpandoa: do you want two screens running off the two cards?10:30
ssamkridunink, or from right click -> properties you can choose the default app for that file type10:30
Falstiussailor, you should try booting into single user mode ...10:30
gouchisomething like that10:30
siggiJDahl: im using this tutorial http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=91610:30
Specjustintime32: what do you need to do to get it to work after it boots?10:30
justintime32i can get at it using my wan IP from here and other computers10:30
gouchiany idea ?10:30
sailorFalstius, how do I do that?10:30
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justintime32after it boots, i need to open the network manager and activate it10:30
urmomok then does any one have any good ubuntu compatible RTS games like command and conquer look alikes?10:30
kriduninkssam, thanks for the tip. you have been lots of help. do you know any way to play games designed for windows?10:30
justintime32for some reason, ifup won't work10:30
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Specjustintime32: wanna take this to PM?10:31
Specso you can paste me some info10:31
justintime32sure10:31
justintime32ok10:31
silvaranSpec: Thanks ;) I tried.10:31
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Falstiussailor, when the system is booting hit "esc" to enter the grub menu, hit "e" to edit the entry and and "single" to the end of the kernel line.  Hit enter and "b" for boot.10:31
justintime32thanks10:31
ssamkridunink, i haven't done it myself, but you might want to look up wine10:31
JDahlsiggi, I didn't catch what your problem was... did you dist-upgrade and things stopped working?10:31
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sailorFalstius, lemme give that a try...10:31
kriduninkssam, i did find that was just not sure how it would work, thanks10:31
Xanaduurmom: Wesnoth is a very addictive turn-based strat game10:32
WhyvasLTis gmail down for anyone else?10:32
gatpandoano xanadu justone monitor here10:32
weedarThe day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly I'll have nothing to complain over10:32
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ssamkridunink, there should be a howto somewhere, maybe someone else can help10:32
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ssamkridunink, there a quite few good linux games10:32
Falstiussailor, there will be some notes at the bottom of the screen to remind you10:32
Moe|Joehey people10:32
WhyvasLTweedar, go back to windows and shut up then....10:32
Xanadugatpandoa: okay let me get this straight: you got two cards and one is nvidia and one is just an arb card right?10:32
martyn_yeah gmail is down10:32
silvaranweedar: The day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly Linus' grandchildren will have written their own operating system.10:32
gatpandoayes10:32
Moe|Joei need a ndiswrapper expert :P10:32
urmomxandu anyothers you know of?10:32
gatpandoausing onboard card right now10:33
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siggiJDahl: no I havo no problem other than i wanted know where i cound see the version i was using: cat /etc/issue10:33
kriduninkssam, yes thanks alot, i will have to look into the linux games. i just love baldur's gate though10:33
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siggi:)10:33
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weedarWhyvasLT, thanks for that insightful comment I'm glad I wasted bandwidth getting it to display on my monitor10:33
Specweedar: my wireless card is working right now10:33
Specweedar: but you mean any as in all?10:33
Xanaduurmom: check out Ur Quan Masters (uqm in the repos) - a re-release of Star Control II10:33
martyn_buy a wirless bridge10:33
gatpandoainstalled nvidia for gaming10:33
Xanaduurmom: v cool10:33
Moe|Joeanyone here using ndiswrapper? i got a problem :s10:33
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ssamkridunink, glad to help, freeciv and wesnorth a good if you like turnbased stratergy10:34
silvaranMoe|Joe: Dapper?10:34
urmomty xandu are these in the apget program?10:34
Xanadugatpandoa: and you're not getting anything thru the nvidia card but you are through the vga?10:34
weedarSpec, well not necessarily "all" cards available on the market. But it seems to me that many of the cards available in the norwegian market needs some fiddling around to work10:34
kbrooksany cool games in the ubuntu repos?10:34
Xanaduurmom: yeah (might be universe or multiverse - not sure)10:34
Moe|Joeubuntu says my card is installed but...the lights on the wifi card are not showing10:34
tristanmikekbrooks, define "cool"10:34
kriduninkssam, thanks for the tip10:34
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Falstiuskbrooks, nethack and Maelstorm :)10:34
Moe|Joesilvaran: nope breezy10:34
gatpandoayes10:34
weedarSpec, and since we all want Linux used by most people (right?) they should work prettymuch out of the box like regular ethernet cards :)10:34
urmomty much xandu10:34
gatpandoathat is true z=xanadu10:34
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sailorFalstius, that worked... so now how do I figure out why and how to fix it so I can boot normally?10:34
Specyes, the problem is10:34
Specproprietary firmware10:34
Specand the fact that they don't release any information to us10:34
kbrookstristanmike, why is "cool" soooo subjective10:34
silvaranMoe|Joe: Nasty... I don't have any wireless experience other than ndiswrapper on dapper with a broadcom card :(10:34
Moe|Joehmm10:35
tristanmikekbrooks, cause I don't think nethack, for instance, is "cool"10:35
Moe|Joeim using that ndisgtk10:35
Xanadugatpandoa: okay each card should have its own PCI address10:35
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kbrooksFalstius, what is maelstorm?10:35
Xanadugatpandoa hang on have to check this out myself ;)10:35
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gatpandoaokie10:35
gatpandoa:)10:35
Falstiussailor, the first then you should do it turn off gdm ... chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm10:35
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kbrookstristanmike, cool: not textbased, easy to play10:35
tristanmikekbrooks, supertux10:36
Falstiussailor, that will keep it from booting into the graphical environment for now (until you can fix it)10:36
weedarSpec, sure I know the reason. But I doubt joe-anybody cares - Most people just want things to work :/10:36
hypnotici now have access to my HD but when i made a shortcut it said this user does not have permission to view it.. can someone help me10:36
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kbrookstristanmike, i have already played that.10:36
sailorFalstius, OK, i'll try that... any ideas on how I'd try to figure out whats making it do this though?10:36
JDahlsiggi, I normally use aptitude to browse package information... you can also do that from the command line 'dpkg --help'. For example, dpkg -s kubuntu-desktop spits out a lot of info10:36
silvaranhypnotic: ntfs?10:36
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ssamkbrooks, wesnorth10:36
kbrooksFalstius, what is maelstorm?10:36
tristanmikekbrooks, then you played frozenbubble then too ?10:36
hypnoticyes silvaran10:36
kbrookstristanmike, yes10:36
tristanmikekbrooks, maelstrom An arcade-style game resembling Asteroids.10:36
weedarMoe|Joe, some cards don't light up until you connect to a wireless network. Have you tried?10:36
Specweedar: Yes, but Ubuntu doesn't like having proprietary stuff in it (obviously), so...we're at a stand still :p10:36
kbrooksssam: and what is wesnorth? :)10:37
Falstiussailor, use "startx" to start xwindows from the command line.  It may still fail but should give you some error info to go by.  Did you recently update your video drivers?10:37
Specweedar: justintime quit, he never responded to my pms? :p10:37
Xanaduokay gatpandoa you should have a section under xorg.conf called "Device" which should have a "BusID" thingy in it10:37
tristanmikekbrooks, what about Wesnoth ?10:37
kbrooksspec: um.10:37
ssamkbrooks, wesnoth (sorry typo before) is a turn based stratergy10:37
kbrooksspec: first things first10:37
Falstiuskbrooks: asteroids clone.10:37
Xanadugatpandoa: that BusID points to the PCI slot that the card it's accessing is in10:37
Speckbrooks: yes?10:37
urmomhow large is freeciv?10:37
sailorFalstius, no, I haven't changed them since I installed them with Automatix10:38
ssamkbrooks, mission based, lots of campaigns10:38
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Falstiussailor, I don't know what automatix is ...10:38
kbrooksspec: ubuntu doesnt block you from installing proprietary stuff10:38
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urmomand where do i get wesnoth?10:38
gatpandoahow do i access xorg.conf via term?10:38
Xanadugatpandoa: so to get the right card working, change the BusID to the correct one (figuring that out is another story - will have to do some digging). Suggest you just leave the driver as "vga" untill it's working10:38
Speckbrooks: no, but it's not in MAIN10:38
tristanmikekbrooks, how about Stratagus10:38
silvaranhypnotic: I never really read that wiki... essentially all I do is edit /etc/fstab, and for my ntfs line, I make sure "options" has "ro,umask=0222" ... then umount /media/hda1 and mount /media/hda1 or wherever your mountpoint is.10:38
Xanadugatpandoa: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:38
Speckbrooks: and therefore will not Just Work (tm)10:39
ssamurmom, you can install it with synaptic package manager10:39
Kyralgatpandoa, sudo <insert favorite editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:39
sailorFalstius, it's just an auto install script for lots of commonly used packages--it installed the nvidia driver for me10:39
kbrooksspec: second, the ubuntu community will never charge a fee to people who wish to install these proprietary programs10:39
urmomtyssam10:39
Xanadugatpandoa: it's the main file containing all the devices for X so it's pretty useful10:39
hypnoticthank you bud10:39
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gouchipessulus ;-)10:39
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kbrooksspec, and finally: it doesnt object to the use of them, either.10:39
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OhmHow I install the JAVA SCRIPT?10:40
Kyral!java10:40
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:40
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weedarJava is not javascript10:40
silvaranI hope he didn't mean JavaScript.10:40
Falstiussailor, and it worked after that?  You might poke around in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if there's something glaringly wrong.  But seeing stuff like that takes some experience.10:40
KyralActually do you know what I found is the best popup blocker?10:40
Speckbrooks: that has nothing to do with what i said?10:40
weedarKyral, lynx? ;)10:40
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paxmasterI am removable dvd drive10:40
SpecUbuntu will not put proprietary stuff into it's distrobution.10:40
urmomwhere do i find synaptic in add programs? ssasm10:40
bddebianKyral: NOt using dar intarweb?10:40
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OmegaAlphaanybody use 3ddesktop in here?10:40
Falstiussailor, you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:40
gatpandoahow do i use that paste site to paste u what xorg says10:40
sailorFalstius, yeah, it worked just fine after that, and then this randomly started happening some weeks later... And I'm not sure I have enough experience to really notice anything wrong with the xorg conf10:41
silvaranpaxmaster: I'm an internal hard drive, nice to meet you.10:41
Specend of story, next fact -> lots of wireless cards won't work without proprietary stuff10:41
ssamurmom, system -> admin10:41
Kyralbddebian, nope, not installing Java :P10:41
Kyralnor Flash :P10:41
paxmasternow when I try put it back it no detectonf10:41
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marcyhi10:41
paxmastersame10:41
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marcyhow can i take off the kubuntu splash from grub10:41
Falstiussailor, its also possible that you have some hardware that is failing ...10:41
marcy?10:41
Kyralwhen you consider that most popups use Java and Flash to work... :P10:41
gatpandoaxanadu? how do i pate you what my xorg.conf says10:41
paxmasterI am have a removable dvd drive10:41
silvarangatpandoa: Did you get ubotu's message about pastepin?10:42
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paxmasternow when I try put it back it no detecting10:42
silvarans/pastepin/pastebin/10:42
gatpandoayes one sec10:42
sailorFalstius, the machine boots fine to windows or a live cd, so I don't think it's hardware10:42
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gatpandoaasting to u10:42
kbrooksi'm a USB hard drive, nice to meet you. now use me, someone.10:42
paxmasterwhat wrong10:42
gatpandoapasting to u10:42
weedarSpec, if you know - does the centrino wlan cards work "out of the box" now?10:42
silvarankbrooks: You're a serial device!10:42
Specnope, I do not know10:42
marcyi wanna put the ubuntu splash when the computer starts instead of kubuntu10:42
Specbroadcom doesn't work out of the box :-/10:42
Specin fact, broadcom is broken out of the box due to lack of firmware10:42
silvarankbrooks: I guess it's not as funny in chat as it was in my head.10:42
_jasonubotu: tell marcy about usplashchange10:42
Specsilvaran: :p10:43
OmegaAlphano 3ddesktop users in here?10:43
marcythanks10:43
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kbrookssilvaran, i was merely being creative10:43
Falstiussailor, probably not then.  Well, first try startx and look in .xsession-errors to see what it says.10:43
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MdSalihhello all10:43
OmegaAlphaok how about does anyone know how to remove a package that isnt fully installed from fully installing?10:43
weedarSerial devices are never funny. Unterminated external SCSI-devices though..10:43
MdSalihHow do i start Gnome in ubuntu ?10:43
silvarankbrooks: Nah it was my lame answer to your comment.10:43
Xanadugatpandoa what's the pastebin link?10:43
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Moe|JoeMdSalih: startx10:43
psycho_oreos!tell Xanadu about pastebin10:43
kbrookssilvaran, ya ya right...........10:44
ReWT_anyone here ever use guild ftpd?10:44
silvaranpsycho_oreos: He needs the link to something somebody else pasted.10:44
ssamOmegaAlpha, synaptic package manager should list it as a broken package10:44
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silvaranMaybe ubotu should remind people to resubmit their pasted text link to the channel :)10:44
ramza3anybody use gnuserv with emacs10:44
cerebrixcould someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)10:44
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kbrooks!pastebin10:44
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)10:44
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MdSalihMoe|Joe - startx doesn't seem to do anything.. my screen goes blank :(10:44
shivWhat does this command mean? sudo rm -f /usr/share/applications/nvu.desktop10:44
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ReWT_my sound isnt working?10:44
psycho_oreossilvaran: ahh ok my bad10:44
Moe|Joehmmm10:44
Moe|Joewird10:44
OmegaAlphassam, its not a broken package10:44
silvaranMmm... webboard, gotta try that.10:44
Moe|Joe*weird10:44
gazanferhello10:44
PaoloChi all, can anybosy help me in adding again winXP to my grub boot?10:44
kbrooksubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install (.*?)//10:45
ubotuthat doesn't contain 'Install (.*?)', kbrooks10:45
PaoloCi lost it upgrading to drapper...10:45
gatpandoahow do i find out pastebin link10:45
Xanadugatpandoa: that's a screenshot and the stuff I need to see is further down10:45
ssamOmegaAlpha, i think it counts things that did not cleanly install10:45
gatpandoahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:45
silvarankbrooks: Is that how you "program" the guy?10:45
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sailorFalstius, how would I make the machine start booting x again automatically? chmod a+x?10:45
kbrooksubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)//10:45
ubotuOK, kbrooks10:45
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gazanferi have a problem: my ubuntu system can not see one of two exact windows xp computers.10:45
gatpandoahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1023910:45
Seveaskbrooks, ?10:45
Xanadugatpandoa look for "section Device"10:45
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PaoloCplease, can anybody contact me privatly?10:45
Seveasdon't mess with perfectly fine factoids10:46
OhmHow can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT?10:46
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Ohm???10:46
Falstiussailor, yep10:46
Seveas!java10:46
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:46
Seveas!pastebin10:46
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org -10:46
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MdSalih!startx10:46
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MdSalih10:46
urmomis 100kB/s any good for a cheap dsl connection?10:46
silvaranSeveas: Why did he do that?10:46
Falstiusbut since in testing you might reboot or crash the system, its best to leave that off for now.10:46
Xanadugatpandoa or just dump the whole file in pastebin10:46
Seveas!no pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar 10:46
ubotuokay, Seveas10:46
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sailorFalstius, OK, i'm going to reboot now10:46
Falstiussailor, to make it book into graphics, chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm10:46
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OmegaAlphassam, well the reason its not fully installed is that it try to connects to a mysql server which i dont think i have installed and gets an error. but then stops right there and everytime i try to install anything it keeps trying to connecting to the server and gets the error again10:47
ssamurmom, bits or bytes?10:47
LRFThis is my first use of X-chat so pardon stupid question.  I am trying to use Totem to play a .wmv file and get this message:  The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.  I am a brand new linux user so any help would be appreciated.  I tried searching for help, but could not find anything.  Also, sorry if I'm not posting in c10:47
LRForrect "channel".10:47
sailorFalstius, should I boot into single again?10:47
Falstiussailor, did xwindows work?10:47
eobanbcan anyone recommend a small lightweight acpi battery monitor, preferably one that integrates with fluxbox10:47
gatpandoahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024010:47
ssamOmegaAlpha, how did you try to install it?10:47
sailorFalstius, it did in single, rebooting now to check xsession-errors10:47
urmombytes10:47
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cerebrixcould someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)10:47
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silvaran!fixres10:47
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:47
OmegaAlphassam, terminal10:47
silvarancerebrix: There you go :)O10:47
IceToxHey.. I wanna try this new graphical environment (other than KDE and Gnome). I just noticed there are no /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. It it replaced somewhere?10:47
Falstiussailor, just type "init 2"10:47
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martyn_whats the comand from the comand line not termianl to start gnome aganin10:48
gatpandoaxanadu its10:48
gatpandoahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024010:48
ssamOmegaAlpha, with apt-get?10:48
Falstiusthat will go into multiuser mode without rebooting.10:48
kbrooksthanks Sevites :P10:48
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Xanadugatpandoa: that BusID "PCI:0:1:0" is pointing to your vga card10:48
gatpandoayup10:48
silvarankbrooks: Why remove the webboard reference?10:48
OmegaAlphassam, nevermind i just found it in synaptic.. it said it was installed but it isnt so now im doing a complete removal10:48
sailorFalstius, OK, one sec...10:48
kbrookssilvaran, never mind. its over.10:48
Xanaduanyone know off the top of their heads how to get the PCI address of an AGP card? (save some google time for me)10:48
silvaranOK10:49
ssamOmegaAlpha, ok, thats the easiest way to deal with it10:49
p01n7howdy OmegaAlpha10:49
zezuIs there a backup copy of my hosts file that ubuntu would have created ?10:49
_jasonmartyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:49
FalstiusXanadu, lspic?10:49
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Falstiuser lspci10:49
zezuI seem to be ok without it but gnome complains10:49
silvaranXanadu: lspci can give it to you10:49
zezuor how can i add my current host to it so it will stop ?10:49
ssamlrf, did you get a reply yet?10:49
PaoloCis there a tool for automatically detect the menu.lst setting for booting winxp?10:49
OmegaAlphap01n7, hey man whats burning?10:49
Xanadukewl ta10:49
gazanferFalstius, can you help me with a network issue?10:49
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_jasonmartyn_: or I suppose it would just be 'start' instead of 'restart' if it isn't running10:49
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, sadly nothing10:49
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OmegaAlphassam, thanks for your time though.. i wonder if that poker3d game is good graphics like the holdem online games10:50
martyn_k10:50
OmegaAlphap01n7, heh not over here10:50
LRFssam, not yet10:50
zezuhm10:50
Xanadugatpandoa: lspci | grep -i nvidia | more10:50
zezuit wont let me do sudo -i either10:50
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zezugethostbyname() doesn't work for my host10:50
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ssamLRF, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats let us know if you dont understand anything10:51
zezulessee what google says about the format of hosts file i guess10:51
OmegaAlphap01n7, busy as ever trying to get this harddrive fix... i took a lil break though and now screwing around with VNC but cant get that to work right either10:51
martyn_i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line to this folder10:51
kbrooksROFL Seveas10:51
annahi guys, can somebody help me? i cant play mkv files..10:51
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kbrooksSeveas: you kicked yourself out of here10:51
Xanadugatpandoa: then pastebin it (mark with mouse and ctrl-shift-c to copy from the console)10:51
p01n7OmegaAlpha, leave me the hell out of it :P10:51
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OhmHow can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT???10:52
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zezuerr i can't do sudo to write to the /etc/hosts10:52
zezuany ideas ?10:52
sailorFalstius, when I try to load .xsession-errors, it says gedit was not able to detect the character encoding10:52
Seveas!tell Ohm about java10:52
OmegaAlphap01n7, lol no i will leave you in!10:52
sailorFalstius, nano will read it10:52
EvilDinwhy my ubuntu have avalable only resolution 640x48010:52
urmomhow does one install wes10:52
ssamOhm, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:52
zezuand i can't modify it to be writeable10:52
silvaranPaoloC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024210:52
zezuanyone?10:52
OmegaAlphap01n7, ever use 3ddesktop?10:52
sailorFalstius, what are you looking for in this file?10:52
martyn_i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder10:52
p01n7yes10:53
Xanaduzezu: who's the owner of the file?10:53
Falstiussailor, you are able to boot into xwindows to run gedit?10:53
ssamurmom, synaptic package manager10:53
zezuXanadu, probably root10:53
zezulemme check10:53
Xanaduzezu: then should work fine10:53
annadoes anyone know how to play matroska files?10:53
sailorFalstius, in single user mode, yes10:53
gatpandoawish me luck ,otherwise its back to reinstalling ubuntu10:53
urmomgame have any 3d graphics support?10:53
caszenrox: did you tried `sudo gedit /etc/hosts` ?10:53
OmegaAlphap01n7, i installed it thru terminal. and i typed in '3ddesktop' and nothing happened10:53
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zezuerr10:53
Falstiussailor, then xsession-errors isn't likely to tell you very much ...10:53
p01n7lol, it's running10:53
caszenrox: sorry ment zezu10:53
zezuthe problem is that sudo isn't working10:53
ssamOmegaAlpha, apt-get install packagename10:53
zezub/c the hosts file can't find my hostname10:54
sailorFalstius, I can't check it when I have the problem since I can't get signal from the vid card...10:54
ssamOmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get install packagename10:54
zezuor else i'd just readd it10:54
gatpandoaXanadu nvidia driver installation says installer must be run as root10:54
LRFssam, thanks, I'll have a look at the wiki.  However, Totem will not start up from the application menu even before i specify what type of file to open. ????10:54
OmegaAlphassam, yes i know10:54
gatpandoai thought user is root in ubuntu10:54
Xanaduzezu sudo isn't dependent on host file10:54
martyn_can any help or not10:54
martyn_can any help or not10:54
martyn_i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder10:54
OmegaAlphassam, i know how to install stuff :)10:54
Falstiussailor, you can quit xwindows and start gdm manually.10:54
caszezu: boot into save mode and add it then10:54
Xanadugatpandoa you already on to that?10:54
oblihow do I get a higher screen res than 1024x768? I'm pretty sure I picked 1280x1024 when installing...10:54
zezuzezu@faerun:~$ sudo vi /etc/hosts10:54
zezusudo: unable to lookup faerun via gethostbyname()10:54
sailorFalstius, trying to boot as normal without auto gdm right now10:54
Xanadugatpandoa: run it as sudo nvidia-blahblah10:54
silvaranmartyn_: You should probably use the prepackaged nvidia driver.10:54
_jasonubotu: tell obli about fixres10:54
gatpandoayes why is it saying must be installed as root10:54
zezusave mode ?10:55
zezuperhaps i can just switch to RL1 ?10:55
p01n7OmegaAlpha, run 3ddesk in a terminal10:55
obliyay10:55
gatpandoahow do i change to root10:55
ssamOmegaAlpha, you can do man 3desktop to find out about it10:55
caszezu: yes it should be in your grub menu by default10:55
Xanadugatpandoa: it's been a looong time since I installed nvidia stuff10:55
OmegaAlphassam, i installed 3ddesktop thru terminal..no errors... so then i went to run it.. which i assume by typing '3ddesktop' in ther terminal and nothing happened.. same thing with my glunarclock program10:55
p01n7after first run.. '3ddesk' again with launch the switcher10:55
_jasonobli: do that if you don't have choices in system > preferences > screen resolution10:55
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martyn_silvram: i am trying ti get them installed to lower the gou fan speed as its very loud plus for playing games10:55
ramza3what is a good ftp client for ubuntu10:55
zezuso if my hostname is faerun, should i just add : 127.0.0.1 faerun localhost ?10:55
obliok10:55
Falstiussailor, okay.  You can also try starting gdm from the command line (chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm; /etc/init.d/gdm start)10:55
ramza3besides ftp10:55
Xanadugetpandoa: run it from the command line with "sudo nvidia-blahblah" (whatever it's called)10:55
OmegaAlphap01n7, awesome that worked!10:56
ssamOmegaAlpha, for glunarclock you need to right click on the panal and choose add, then find it in the list10:56
obliDo i need to download the catalyst drivers from ATI ?10:56
silvaranmartyn_: nvidia-settings?10:56
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, did you get that?10:56
Xanaduzezu: try nano or pico10:56
p01n7OmegaAlpha, ok10:56
seliniumis there a commnd line ftp command as standard?10:56
sailorFalstius, OK10:56
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zezuI'm still not going to have permissions to write10:56
zezubut i'll try10:56
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gatpandoano luck eh10:56
p01n7OmegaAlpha,i have it bined to short-cut-keys10:56
silvaranselinium: lftp should be there on fresh install ... otherwise apt-get it.10:56
OmegaAlphap01n7, yeah its pretty cool.  not necessary but neat, def can impress my buddies with this since they know nothign about ocmputers10:56
seliniumsilvaran, cheers10:56
p01n7binded *10:56
ssamOmegaAlpha, you should see xgl10:57
caszezu: reboot and select the select the (recovery mode)10:57
OmegaAlphap01n7, yeah ill have to keep typing it in terminal if i dont bind a key to it right?10:57
martyn_silvram: all am trying to do is to know how to get to my home dir. form the command line . i can install ok from there just dont know how to direct it there i.e is i " cd home/martyn/10:57
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Xanadugatpandoa: I suggest yo u start with the Ubuntu nvidia drivers, get that working first then brave the install from nvidia.com10:57
zezuok i'll try thanks10:57
silvaranmartyn_: "cd" by itself will take you home.10:57
zezubut is that line ok ?10:57
caszezu: then add it with pico/vim/nano or whatever10:57
silvaranmartyn_: Then "pwd" to show where you are (Print Working Directory)10:57
p01n7OmegaAlpha, yes10:57
IceToxIs it possible to run XPDE at Ubuntu? Anyone tried that before?10:57
sailorFalstius, it seems that when I boot in multi-user (as normal) but startx manually, it works10:57
zezu127.0.0.1 faerun faerun   or  127.0.0.1 faerun localhost ?10:57
cas127.0.0.1 localhost faerun10:57
zezuok10:58
zezuthx, brb10:58
Falstiussailor, that's good to know.  Have you tried starting gdm manually?10:58
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sailorFalstius, I'm gonna reboot again with it automatically starting gdm10:58
martyn_silvram: i have place them in my folder called home folder called martyn so waould that be cd /home/martyn10:58
Xanadugatpandoa: the packages you want are linux-restricted-modules, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-settings10:58
Falstiussailor, I would try starting gdm manually first10:58
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sailorFalstius, I booted it with the chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm and then ran startx from the terminal when it booted10:58
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sailorFalstius, was that what you meant?10:59
silvaranmartyn_: If you downloaded it directly from nvidia's site, "find ~/ -iname '*nvidia*'" will find the actual path to the .bin10:59
OmegaAlphap01n7, guess im gonna have to read wiki on binding keys... i forgot how to do it.. i learned how to make it so all iha ve to type is acs instaed of "apt-cache search" :)10:59
Falstiussailor, gdm is the graphical login package.  If you start it with /etc/init.d/gdm start it should come up just as if you booted with it on.10:59
suryambreezy 'server' install has so many things broken... i guess all the focus is given to making 'desktop' install very nice :*-(10:59
Xanadugatpandoa: then you want to change "Driver" under that Section "Device" section to "nv" and change BusID to point at your nvidia card10:59
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OmegaAlphassam, what is xgl?10:59
ssamOmegaAlpha, you should see xgl10:59
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sailorFalstius, OK10:59
p01n7OmegaAlpha, it's a gnome setting.. i used KDE10:59
ramza3anything like winscp for unbuntu?11:00
ssamOmegaAlpha, its the best desktop bling ever11:00
silvaransuryam: I've never had any problems... I usually just do a server install and can later do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.11:00
p01n7It would be just as good to add an icon to the panel or desktop11:00
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ssamOmegaAlpha, its not to easy to install yet, but its very good11:00
silvaranubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about xgl and how awesome it is.11:00
silvaranAwww...11:00
silvaran!xgl11:00
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/11:00
suryamsilvaran: are you able to switch between virtual terminals with ctr-alt-F1..6 ?11:00
Xanadugatpandoa: and if you get into trouble and X won't start, edit xorg.conf from the command line (sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and change "nv" to "vga"11:00
ssamsilvaran, thanks11:00
paxmasterI have a removable dvd drive (laptop), now i try put it back it's not detecting it,11:01
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dos000_howdy11:01
silvaransuryam: Yup ...11:01
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paxmasterhow should I detect it11:01
silvaransuryam: Although when you're in the console it's usually just Alt+F?11:01
dos000_i just installed matchbox .. how do i switch my windowmanager to it ?11:01
suryamsilvaran: i guess ubuntu-desktop package has all the magic then. i'll install it11:01
suryamsilvaran: correct11:01
b33rhow can I make unbuntu see my fat32 partition?11:01
ssampaxmaster, i think there is some info in man hdparm11:01
SGershonHi All!11:01
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silvaransuryam: It'll pull down a LOT of stuff as well, pretty much the whole default install, which kind of defeats the purpose of doing 'server' in the first place (I used it to update dapper before I had a dapper flight cd)11:02
ssamdos000_, log out and it shoulf be in the session menu11:02
p01n7mount -t vfat /dev/devicname /dir/to/.place/you/want/to/mount/it/to11:02
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OmegaAlphacoolness i got some reading to do.. what else is new11:02
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p01n7:P11:02
dos000_ssam, i dont see it in the session menu11:02
SGershon"Unable to get exclusive lock", but it seems to be no "locking" application open... How can I detect the "blocking" application?11:02
sailorFalstius, when I run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, it tells me command not found11:02
suryamsilvaran: yeah... but i can't get a working system (can't switch between VTs!!) without that bloat i guess11:02
thesilentkilleri am looking for a good calendar server that i can run on ubuntu.....it shud run on some standard (like ical) so that outlook users can use the server too.....any suggestions?11:02
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ssamdos000_, hmm, could be a bit trickier, have you tried searching th wiki and forum?11:03
gatpandoai found nvidia in synaptic via search now what11:03
silvaranSGershon: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:03
silvaransuryam: That's weird... the vts should be taken care of by init, I can't see ubuntu-desktop making any difference.11:03
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kvarntunanyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?11:03
Xanadugatpandoa: scoll up ;)11:03
silvarangatpandoa: Are you following the nvidia wiki?11:03
gatpandoano11:03
dos000_ssam, i tried all over .. no one seems to document it . i even tried update-alternatives --config x-windowmanager11:03
gatpandoawheres the nvidia wiki11:03
silvaranubotu: tell gatpandoa about nvidia11:03
Falstiussailor, did you "chmod +x gdm" first?11:04
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thegladiatorso guys11:04
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Xanaduso thegladiator11:05
thegladiatoryes11:05
ohgonebbl11:05
kvarntunanyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?11:05
paxmasterthere is no device node in /dev/11:05
oklinuxdid any one try wine in ubuntu ?11:05
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thegladiatoryeah11:05
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thegladiatori have wine installed11:05
sailorFalstius, that was it... and it boots just fine11:05
LinuxJonesSo we will see Gnome 2.14 in Dapper tomorrow ?11:05
Xanaduoklinux: yeah running Photoshop just fine11:05
seliniumsilvaran, Cheers for the pointer. Have you used lftp? It has one of the biggest man pages I have seen in a while!11:05
suryamsilvaran: hmm.. let me clarify: i do a server install, then i install xserver-xorg and xterm, then i run 'xinit `which xterm`'... at this point i cannot switch to the other VTs!11:05
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andrewPCTi was upgraded to gnome 2.14 today11:05
oklinuxso did it work ok really Xanadu11:05
Xanaduyeah works fine11:06
sailorFalstius, OK, now, I think I'll re-enable gdm on boot and try that... dunno whats going on11:06
oklinuxwhat about IE11:06
dos000_ssam, any ideas ?11:06
Xanadusome stuff better than others11:06
silvaransuryam: Ohhh, mixing X into the bunch... never tried that... I went straight to dapper's ubuntu-desktop.11:06
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Falstiussailor, go for it11:06
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thesilentkillercan anyone suggest a good calendar server? typical clients in use are mozilla thunderbird and ms outlook11:06
Xanaduoklinux I even got google earth kinda working11:06
thegladiatorXanadu, why not gimp ?11:06
LinuxJonesandrewPCT: but it's not released till tomorrow11:06
suryamsilvaran: yeah... it looks like ubuntu-desktop has some xorg magic inside it11:06
andrewPCTok11:06
jwilliamsHi all.  Has anyone tried to smoketest GNOME 2.14 on Breezy?  I get lots of "internal compiler error"s when compiling!11:06
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silvaranselinium: I know a bit about lftp... it has tab and command completion, the only thing that pisses me off is the delayed connect (it doesn't actually connect until you type a command like ls and stuff).11:06
Xanaduthegladiator: I usually use gimp but photoshop good for some stuff, like animating gifs11:06
thegladiatorisnt it as good as photoshpop ? ofcourse adbobe is a good company11:06
thegladiatorah11:06
silvaransuryam: It might have all the hardware detection utils necessary for automatic X setup as well.11:07
seliniumsilvaran, I just want to copy a file from one server to another....11:07
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EdLinthesilentkiller, Ximian Connector (now from Novell) or some-such is one.11:07
Xanaduthegladiator: freedom to choose is what they mean by "linux is free" - perfect cause now I can choose the best tool for the job every time ;)11:07
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ohgoneselinium: scp it11:07
ssamdos000_, i am having a look11:07
zFAnyone have an Azureus 2.4.0.0 deb?11:07
zFOr should I just install the old version :[11:07
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thegladiator:-)11:07
silvaranselinium: lftp will do it.  lftp user:password@hostname11:07
suryamsilvaran: hmm.. i haven't had any hardware problems. i can run X just fine... only switching VTs doesn't work11:07
dos000_ssam, i am on breezy btw11:07
sailorFalstius, OK, it worked just fine11:07
wastrelok i'm annoyed.  why is my wireless connection associtating with a random neighbor's AP, rather than mine (which is configured in /etc/network/interfaces)11:07
seliniumohgone, I only have ftp access to one server11:07
silvaranselinium: Then "put /path/to/local/file" or "get /path/to/remote/file"11:07
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ohgoneselinium: oh, well then11:08
silvaransuryam: Yah that's really weird...11:08
sailorFalstius, I have no idea why... but it concerns me that it's going to start doing it again11:08
seliniumsilvaran, cool!11:08
silvaranselinium: Of course, remote machine must have an FTP server running :)11:08
thesilentkillerEdLin: hmm ok.....thanks..i will have a look at it11:08
caszF: you can also download azureus and run it in your home instead of installing it11:08
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zFcas, I have the 2.4.0.0 tar.bz2, how do I run it?11:08
seliniumsilvaran, CHeers, It is my remote FTP backup server. I only have ftp access so it had better be working! :)11:09
silvaranHeh yah..11:09
LogicalDashHi everyone, I've set up my Ubuntu to use my wireless network, but it takes a really long time at startup when it tries to establish network connections. I don't think I really need that step since all it does is synchronize the clock, is there any way to turn it off?11:09
caszF: extract it and just execute the azurues11:09
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zFexecute the .jar?11:09
caszF: but be sure you have java installed, the sun version11:09
suryamsilvaran: argh... there has to be a better way... all this bloat is hurting me: gnome, evolution, metacity... *cringes*11:09
zFsyntax is jar Azureus.jar?11:09
ssamdos000_, ok i think i have an answer11:09
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suryamzF: java -jar the-jar-file11:10
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Falstiussailor ... maybe.  Atleast now you have an idea on how to start fixing it if it comes back.11:10
silvaransuryam: After you're done, if you're picky, you can always remove ubuntu-desktop, then manually go through and remove the packages you don't want.  Synaptic does a nice job of warning you about other packages that might get hit in the anti-bloat crossfire :)11:10
caszF: no, just `azureus` will do11:10
ssamdos000_, are you happy editing text files11:10
servjewhello. i have ubuntu installed on my PC and i have a video capture card. an ATI MSI theater 550 pro. its not being detected11:10
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dos000_ssam, sure11:10
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ssamdos000_, ok there is a folder /usr/share/xsessions11:10
suryamsilvaran: true. thx for listening to my troubles :-)11:10
VannWhenever i boot under ubuntu, I have no internet connection and it is "Unreachable" when I try to ping the router.  Any ideas how I fix that, it just started for no reason.11:11
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silvaransuryam: Heh, not a problem... it's helpful to me, I'm interested in running ubunto on a server machine without a lot of heft in it... not being able to switch VTs would be nasty.11:11
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sailorFalstius, yeah... I wonder what made it do it though...11:11
MdSalihanyone know of a mirror for ubuntu 6.04 dapper ?11:11
allievoGreetings, I'm installing Ubuntu and have already gotten myself into trouble. The installation asked me for my name, which contains "" (Nicely transformed into <E9>). The problem is that it will not accept this character, and I cannot remove it either.11:11
dos000_ssam, thats a dir with only gnome.desktop in it11:11
wastrelVann:  wireless, dialup or ethernet?11:11
zFcas: I can't seem to get it to work.11:11
Vannwastrel, ethernet11:11
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allievoDoes anyone know of a way to remove it, or another work around, so that I won't have to restart the installation?11:11
ssamdos000_, and you need to make a matchbox.desktop file11:11
zFwhat's the syntax I run after I extract it?11:11
XanaduVaan: does pinging IP addresses work (as opposed to domain names?)11:11
silvaranMdSalih: Might want to check #ubuntu+1 -- mention whether you need a mirror for cd iso or repos11:11
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zFI ran jar -jar Azureus2.jar and it gave me the proper syntax usage. :/11:12
Falstiussailor, did you do a dpkg-reconfigure ?11:12
wastrelVann:  your system->administration->networking  all configured properly?11:12
VannXanadu, pinging 192.168.1.1 results in "Network Unreachable."11:12
ssam!pastebin11:12
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Vannwastrel, not sure, but it was the last time i booted :/11:12
silvaranzF: java -jar, not jar -jar11:12
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yuri_hi! anyone know of a gui for apache2?11:12
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silvaranyuri_: Firefox11:13
XanaduVaan: try "ifconfig eth0" in your console and make sure you're on the right subnet (and that eth0 is there of course)11:13
dos000_ssam, lemme try11:13
casallievo: reboot and select the "recovery mode", then do adduser to make a new user11:13
silvaranyuri_: Sorry, that was assholish .. what do you mean?11:13
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OmegaAlpha!xgl11:13
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/11:13
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VannXanadu, I did that and it was.11:13
sailorFalstius, no11:13
allievoHas no one in here ever give the installation a special character as mentioned above? I really don't want to start over with the installation11:13
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kagewhat is the repo that has the package w32 codecs?11:13
allievogiven*11:13
ssamdos000_, and put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10243 in it11:13
XanaduVaan: you using dhcp?11:13
yuri_I want use apache2 to run a server, but what i found in synaptic is all commandline. I'd like a gui11:13
VannXanadu, yeh11:13
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casallievo: you could use deluser to delete the user but because you have weird characters you prolly need to edit your /etc/passwd and /etc/groups manually11:13
Paperhi, anyone here is familiar with vmware ?11:14
silvaranyuri_: A GUI would really only be useful for configuration... apache just serves web pages based on static, or modules and other plugins... the magic is in the config file.11:14
OmegaAlphassam, is xgl for breezy?11:14
allievocas: Um, well I'm in the installation process as I said, and I can't really access any files at the moment :/11:14
silvaranPaper: A little bit.11:14
Speci'm fairly familiar with vmware, Paper11:14
XanaduVaan: I *think* sudo dhclient should refresh your DHCP stuff11:14
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ssamOmegaAlpha, i think you need dapper11:14
SpecPaper: but not with running vmware workstation on linux11:14
casOmegaAlpha: no only for dapper, you need x 7.0.0 for it11:14
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wastrelsudo dhclient eth011:14
PaperOk cause im trying to add a physical drive to a vritual machine but i only get errors11:14
VannXanadu, alright, I'll try that when I reboot into ubuntu, thanks11:14
OmegaAlphaoh i thought so11:14
Vannmm'11:14
OmegaAlphaoh well no xgl for me till april 20th11:14
silvaranPaper: What kind of errors?11:14
yuri_i see,,, What's the easiest program to host a small server?11:14
Paperwait11:15
ssamOmegaAlpha, if you just want to try it out there is an xgl live cd11:15
yuri_ive used analogx simpleserver back in win11:15
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trentI was wondering why limewire or mercury messenger does not recognise my installed jre.11:15
kageanyone know the pakage for all the codecs?11:15
kagepackage*11:15
dos000_ssam, not matchbox-ession in the executable ?11:15
casallievo: where are you now, still in the installation?11:15
_jasonubotu: tell kage about multimedia11:15
OmegaAlphassam, nah im running low on cdr to burn it11:15
XanaduVaan: also check your subnet mask - make sure it's 255.255.255.011:15
ssamdos000_, possibly, i am not 100% sure11:15
PaperSilvaran: The specified device is not a valid physical device11:15
VannXanadu, how do i change it in case it isn't?11:16
OmegaAlphassam, its no biggie really i was just looking for somethign cool to play around with on ubuntu.. like 3ddesktop11:16
XanaduVaan: or could be a prob with the router's config of course11:16
trentI installed the latest jre.11:16
silvaranPaper: What /dev/ are you specifying for it?11:16
OmegaAlphassam, do you know VNC stuff?11:16
ssamdos000_, i based it off the openbox one11:16
PaperSilvaran: /dev/hdb1/11:16
dos000_ssam, ois there a way i can switch to it whithout loging out ?11:16
sailorFalstius, thanks for the help, I gotta run11:16
ompaul!tell kage about restricted11:16
allievocas: Um, the strangest thing just happened. This was about the fifth time I tried to create the account with the special character, and now it worked :O11:16
ssamOmegaAlpha, no sorry11:16
EdLintrent, did you install it with java-package?11:16
suryam!acpi11:16
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, suryam11:16
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suryamwhat is acpi?11:16
ssamdos000_, maybe matchbox --replace11:16
XanaduVaan: you can set your IP address manually with sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 255.255.255.011:16
silvaranPaper: Don't use the trailing slash ... if that's not it, make sure you can access the device through a command prompt like "sudo file /dev/hdb1" without errors11:16
ompaul!tell suryam about bootoptions11:16
trentEdLin, Java-package... I don't think so.  I downloaded it off the java website.11:16
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PaperSilvaran: ok wait11:17
XanaduVaan: if it's DHCP then the server gives you your IP address and mask (and DNS servers usually too)11:17
allievocas: But when I have gotten into the Ubuntu environment, how can I change the full name of my user?11:17
OmegaAlphadamn. anyone know about VNC?11:17
zFis there anyway I can "azurues" form the command line and have the terminal window exit after the program has been started?11:17
casallievo: hehe, well be glad it works, I never used anything but ascii chars for usernames so I can't tell if you get problems with it11:17
zFSo I don't have two windows open.11:17
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trentEdLin, Should I install java-package from apt instead?11:17
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EdLintrent, first you download it, then use java-package. The procedure is on the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki11:17
XanaduVaan: just make sure there's no other machine on .20 of course ;)11:17
VannXanadu, yup, i know how it works, just not the commands in ubunut :/11:17
allievocas: It's not my username, it's my "full name", so there shouldn't be a problem I guess? :/11:17
Hobbs`holy shit /names was a bad idea :11:17
PaperSilvaran: /dev/hdb1: block special (3/65) | i get that on console when i type sudo file /dev/hdb111:18
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XanaduVaan: you can also check route -r which shows your default gateway etc11:18
metalheddzF: why don't you just start it from a run dialog or the menu?'11:18
ompaulHobbs`, mind the language please :)11:18
silvaranPaper: Was it the trailing slash causing the problem?  Or was that just a chat typo?11:18
Hobbs`k11:18
PaperSilvaran: and i still get an error without the trailing slash11:18
Hobbs`srry11:18
casallievo: change it in your /etc/passwd11:18
silvaranPaper: Are you doing this within the running VM, or in vmware's settings on the host machine?11:18
PaperSilvaran: Invalid Argument without the slash11:18
allievocas: ok, thank you for your help! :)11:18
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casallievo: and reboot after you done it to be sure, your welcome11:19
Paperin vmware, the settings of the host machine11:19
silvaranPaper: Where exactly are you specifying /dev/hdb1?11:19
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silvaranRight... and you have a partitioned IDE drive with at least one partition on primary slave active in that machine?11:19
Papersilvaran: you can add a device, i chose hdd and physical11:19
Papersilvaran: yes it's all partitioned11:20
clem_yeatsis it ok to use snapshot ? I mean is it stable enough for everyday desktop use ?11:20
silvaranPaper: Yeah I see it in the settings... so in the host machine it's visible as hdb1?11:20
blekosi dont know how this has happen, but the buttons in open office(eg writer) are not visible, while in kde they are (in gnome they act like having the hover effect=they bcome visible when u pass the mouse pointer over them)11:20
Papersilvaran: yes in /dev/hdb111:20
blekosany ideas? can i change the theme somewhow?11:20
Papersilvaran: and when i use sudo fdisk -l11:20
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shivI have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...11:21
gatpandoathe nvidia wiki sucks11:21
Papersilvaran: ive been able to mount it without any problems...11:21
PierPP%s/wiki//g11:21
Papersilvaran: in my host machine11:21
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silvaranPaper: Is it unmounted, and accessible to vmware when you try to add it?11:21
gazanferhello. i have 2 windows and 1 ubuntu boxes in this network. all of the computers can see and identify each other, except this one and and one of windows box. i didnt have this issue until i reinstalled ubuntu as server. can anyone help me?11:22
gatpandoaso apparently accroding to synaptic i have both legacy and non legacy nvidi drivers11:22
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gatpandoanow what xanadu?11:22
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Papersilvaran: its mounted in my current host machine as /media/storage/11:22
silvaranPaper: You need to unmount it11:22
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JemtDoes the Ubuntu kernel has unionfs and squashfs modules included?11:22
metalheddgazanfer, install samba?11:22
shivI have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...11:22
Papersilvaran: ok11:22
suryamsilvaran: there's a package x-window-system-core... which ubuntu-desktop installs.  that might have the VT switching magic11:23
metalheddshiv, chmod +x install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh11:23
gazanfermetalhedd, in fact, samba is installed in my opinion, because it is already identified as smb network or smthg like that11:23
Xanadugatpandoa: okay where are you in this process? you changed your xorg.conf file yet?11:23
metalheddshiv then ./install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh11:23
silvaransuryam: We're talking about the Alt-F1 to Alt-F6 stuff right? ... still sounds weird... all that stuff should be handled by init and agetty or whatever...11:23
gatpandoano i havent yet changed that11:23
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silvaransuryam: And Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go from X to console.11:23
suryamsilvaran: we're talking switching to any VT from an X session.11:23
Xanaduokay type the following in a console:11:24
silvaransuryam: Yah... maybe it's an xorg.conf setting ... it's possible to disable it from within there...11:24
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Xanadulspci | grep -i nvidia11:24
Xanaducopy and paste into pastebin11:24
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metalheddgazanfer, so what exactly is the problem if it can see the smb network?11:24
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IGUESSIWASPUNKONcan i install ubuntu with the 2.4 kernel instead of the 2.6?11:24
ozziehey guys11:24
gatpandoawhat changes to i perform to it?11:24
suryamsilvaran: that didn't work.. i have the following inside Section "ServerFlags": Option  "DontVTSwitch"  "no"11:25
SeveasIGUESSIWASPUNKON, no.11:25
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ozziehow do i kill X server in the command line so i can install nvida drivers11:25
Papersilvaran: ok it works when unmounted, but is there a way for it to be mounted at the same time ??11:25
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gazanfermetalhedd, i can only see one box in network, but cant see the other one.11:25
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IGUESSIWASPUNKONSeveas, ok, thanks :)11:25
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casozzie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:25
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shivmetalhedd: thanks a lot11:25
silvaransuryam: That sucks... and you have ubuntu-desktop installed and it STILL doesn't do that crap for you?  What if you start X with startx or gdm/kdm?11:25
silvaransuryam: Or xdm for that matter?11:25
Xanaduyou'll be changing your BusID to something else, and you'll be changing "Driver" from i810 to "nvidia"11:25
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silvaranPaper: NO, it is VERY DANGEROUS to do this.11:25
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suryamsilvaran: haven't installed ubuntu-desktop yet. i'm gonna try and see if the x-window-system-core does the magic11:26
wastrel"bah"11:26
metalheddgazanfer, no idea then, sorry11:26
XanaduThe BusID depends on what you find in the lspci command11:26
gazanfermetalhedd, thx anyway11:26
silvaranPaper: If you want vmware to access it at the same time, it might be best to set it up as a windows share using samba, or if both host/guest are linux-based, NFS.11:26
nargcas: Woot, I got it all working. Thanks :)11:26
gatpandoahow do i find out my nvidia bus11:26
wastrelx-window-system-core is fine but you'll want a windowmanager11:26
suryamsilvaran: i have xdm installed, but it doesn't show up once the boot sequence has finished11:26
Xanaducopy the output of that lspci command to pastebin and I'll look at it11:26
Papersilvaran: no my host is linux ubuntu and guest is win9811:26
suryamwastrel: xterm's all i need ;-P11:26
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casnarg: hehe good to hear :)11:27
Papersilvaran: ill try using samba11:27
silvaranPaper: Best bet is to share it through samba.11:27
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Papersilvaran: k thanks11:27
suryamhere i go11:27
Xanaduat a guess it's probably PCI:1:0:0 or PCI:2:0:011:27
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tjb891ok, mabey im stupid but which color plug on my soundcard dot he speakers go in (my in the green one and it has a very faint sound)11:28
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gatpandoaany way i can find out exactly?11:28
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Xanadugatpandoa: YES! Paste!11:28
MakuraCan someone help me?  My programs randomly close all the time.11:28
gatpandoaXanadu paste what?11:29
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ompaulMakura, what version are you using?11:29
Xanadulspci | grep -i nvidia11:29
Makuraompaul: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy11:29
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=== suryam w00t! it worked.. i can switch VTs now ^_^
trentEdLin, In the part where it says about if you get the "no matching plugin" and you use the second backup command and I still get the same error what should I do? this function "DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"11:29
gatpandoa nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440 ]  (rev a3)11:29
gatpandoa doesnt tell me bus11:29
ompaulMakura, what wm are you using?11:29
=== suryam x-window-system-core fixes the problem :-D
Makuraompaul: wm?  (Linux newbie)11:30
ompaulMakura, gnome / kde?11:30
Xanaducheck the last line - there should be a number before it11:30
suryamMakura: window manager11:30
Makuraompaul: gnome11:30
gatpandoa000:01:04.0 vga compatible11:30
ompaulMakura, is it any particular app or set off apps?11:31
gatpandoathats al it says xanadu11:31
Makuraompaul: Games, Firefox, Gaim, everything.11:31
Xanadugatpandoa: yeah that's the one11:31
gatpandoalol so whats my bus11:31
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Amishwhy not connect then type ls so it connects11:32
Xanadugatpandoa: I *think* it should be 1:4:011:32
AmishWoops11:32
Amishwrong window11:32
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Matt___hey guys11:32
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ompaulMakura, that is very strange, I suggest you do this, reboot the box, as it starts to boot, press escape when the 2 seconds for grub come up, choose memtest and leave the machine there to see if it detects faulty ram11:32
Matt___i am having the biggest problem11:32
Xanaduokay gatpandoa First you need to know what to do if it doesn't work11:32
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Matt___i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd11:33
Xanaducause you won't have X11:33
gatpandoai wrote it down11:33
Matt___and now grub is giving me error 2111:33
Makuraompaul: I've done that before.  There's nothing wrong with my hardware.11:33
Matt___i can even boot into windows....11:33
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Xanadugatpandoa: okay so you'll be able to edit your xorg.conf and set it back to what it was?11:33
Makuraompaul: I left it running for a couple of hours.11:33
Matt___I really Need Help!11:33
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gatpandoasudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf change nv to vga11:33
wastrelMakura:  maybe you're running out of drivespace11:33
Makurawastrel: I have 150 gigs free11:34
Blippewhere is the READMDebian apt-build wants you to read?11:34
wastrelon the linux partition?11:34
martyn_i am having troble installing nvida driver via comand line i hit ctrl-alt+F1 to get in to comnad line then run the nvida install file but it wont let me install because the x sever is still running any ideas ?11:34
gatpandoaits not allowing paste in xcon11:34
Matt___i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd11:34
Xanadugatpandoa: even better: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak11:34
Matt___and now grub is giving me error 2111:34
Xanadudo that now11:34
Makurawastrel: This only runs on linux11:34
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suryammartyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:34
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ompaulMakura, do this >>df -h<< and put the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:34
gatpandoai think i have conf.bak11:34
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Xanadugatpandoa then if it doesn't work: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:35
martyn_suryam: i tried that just says no cammand11:35
vince_hello11:35
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ompaul!ask11:35
Xanadugatpandoa so you're making a backup of xorg.conf that you can just easily restore from the command line11:35
wastrelbot's down it seems :] 11:35
Matt___man11:35
BSDinuxmatt, maybe reinstalling grub helps?11:35
suryammartyn_: do: ls /etc/init.d/*dm11:35
Matt___how?11:35
BSDinuxget a live cd11:35
Matt___and....11:35
BSDinuxboot with the live cd and reinstall grub11:35
BSDinuxi think it's grub-install11:36
Matt___ok booted11:36
vince_sorry i've got problems to install mixxx11:36
Makuraompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024411:36
martyn_suryam: ok do u think that will kill the x server11:36
gatpandoagot it11:36
gatpandoanow what do edit11:36
Xanadugatpandoa: AFTER you've backed up xorg.conf, open it with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:36
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suryammartyn_: yes. then u can install nvidia. and finally u start X again11:36
XanaduGo down to that Section "Device" bit11:36
Matt___will i have to config anything?11:37
martyn_suryam: cheers be back in a mo if it does not lol11:37
ompaulMakura, did you use some software to "improve" your install?11:37
Makuraompaul: Huh?11:37
ompaulMakura, well you have lots of room :)11:37
BSDinuxmatt, you only need to define where grub should be installed... ie the harddisk where it should be.11:37
Xanaduchange "i810" to "vga" (we'll change it to nvidia later - let's just make sure we're accessing the right bus first ;))11:37
BSDinuxfor example grub-install /dev/hda11:37
Makuraompaul: I also have something in the terminal from a game crash that happened11:37
ompaulMakura, paste the result of this >>free<<11:37
Matt___hmm, well i have 2 hdds11:37
Matt___one with win and one with ubuntu11:37
Xanaduchange PCI:0:1:0 to whatever I said above11:37
Matt___i tryed installing ubuntu on one11:38
ompaulMakura, paste any text info there11:38
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Matt___and so i used grub as my boot loader11:38
Makuraompaul: Here's what you told me to do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024511:38
gatpandoawhat do i put in driver part11:38
soopanyone here running wine?11:38
Matt___now it isn't working, just giving me error 2111:38
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gatpandoaunder Device what should i out in as Driver?11:38
Xanadugatpandoa: "vga" (for now - we'll change it again later if it works)11:38
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BSDinuxtry a "grub-install /dev/hda" (in case you have ide-harddisks)11:39
gatpandoaas bus xanadu11:39
Makuraompaul: Here's the other info - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024611:39
Xanadugatpandoa: Driver "vga"11:39
gatpandoaand bus xanadu?11:39
Xanadugatpandoa: BusID "1:4:0"11:39
Matt___BSDinux, will that effect anything if my ubunut drive is slave>11:39
kagehow do I mount my windows partition and give my user account ownership?11:39
Xanadugatpandoa: now save it and close gedit11:40
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wastrelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently11:40
allievoI was told that I could change my full name in "/etc/passwd" which seems impossible, could anyone please tell me where to do this?11:40
Chodderchuckyp, you still around? If so I need that tap option for X again, I forgot it :/11:40
kagethanks11:40
BSDinuxi don't think so. grub should recognize ubuntu and win... if not you can later change it in the menu.lst in /boot/grub11:40
Xanadugatpandoa: you're going to be on your own a bit while you restart X so touch wood, cross fingers and whatever else you do for luck11:41
ompaulMakura, >> ps auwx | grep jamp.exe | grep -v grep <<11:41
wastrelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions11:41
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gatpandoalol11:41
gatpandoathanks buddy11:41
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Makuraompaul: all in one line11:41
Xanadugatpandoa: close everything (including XChat) and then hit "ctrl-alt-backspace"11:41
ompaulMakura, you bettcha11:41
Xanadugatpandoa: if it works we'll see you here again soon11:41
gatpandoai dont fel and sound like a newbie no more even though ive only had the o/s installed 3 days ago11:41
soundrayallievo: what's the problem when you try to edit /etc/passwd?11:41
Makuraompaul: What was it supposed to do?  There was no output in the terminal.11:41
Xanadugatpandoa: if not sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:41
gatpandoak xan11:42
wastrelwhat's jamp.exe?11:42
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Xanaduand then "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo gdm"11:42
ompaulMakura, that is okay, it was going to or not produce output11:42
martyn_i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas11:42
BSDinuxsounds like a win executable11:42
Makuraompaul: Okay11:42
Xanadugatpandoa or just restart11:42
ompaulwastrel, some wine based game he appears to run11:42
Matt___BSDinux: this is what i get "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."11:42
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gatpandoal8r11:42
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ompaulMakura, >> ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep <<11:42
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Makuraompaul: And for gaim, for a while it was crashing when I tried to send a message or let IRC connect >_<  For Firefox, if I tried to download or save as it crashed.11:42
Makuraompaul: Done.11:43
kagehow do I give ownership of a certain directory to a user?11:43
_jasonkage: chown11:43
ompaulMakura, any output?11:43
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ompaulMakura, pastebin please11:43
Matt___yeah so it won't let me install grub11:43
wastreldon't use chown unless you know what you're doing.11:43
martyn_i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas11:43
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Makuraompaul: No output.11:43
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BSDinuxwhat kind of hds are you using? serial or parallel?11:43
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_jasonmartyn_: try /etc not /ect11:44
soundraywastrel, the same applies to scalpels ;)11:44
martyn_lol11:44
Matt___hmmm11:44
Matt___ide11:44
MisterNn811:44
Matt___so parallel11:44
martyn__jason: thx that mite help ;p11:44
BSDinuxk11:44
Makuraompaul: Did you mean for the last command you gave me?11:45
metalheddmartyn_, it might... it will tell you the location of the script that starts the gui login manager. but it wont kill X11:45
ompaulMakura, you can't if you have no output :)11:45
rnd_nulli am about to install Ubuntu linux, i'm very new to linux, someone suggested ubuntu to me.  i run an athlon 64, is there any reason that i should not install the 64bit version and just install the 32bit version?11:45
suryammartyn_: that LS was for you to find which dm your system was using11:45
Matt___rnd_null11:45
Makuraompaul: I was just wondering what output you wanted11:45
Matt___dont install 64bit11:45
ompaulMakura, have you installed any program not using "synaptic package manager"11:45
Makuraompaul: Obviously for ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep there was none though11:45
rnd_nullwhy not?11:45
richard_how can i see php code in my computer?11:45
suryamoh well11:46
Makuraompaul: Yeah. =\11:46
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Xanadurichard_: open the file11:46
Matt___unless you know that all your hardware is 64bit compadible11:46
metalheddrichard_, open a php file with a text editor ?11:46
soundrayrnd_null: amd64 works great for me, except that some applications are only available for 32bit. Notably Macromedia Flash plugin for Firefox.11:46
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ompaulMakura, what did you use? (gulp)11:46
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Makuraompaul: Terminal11:46
rnd_nulli see, that why dsl and mepis dont work then...11:46
rnd_nullthank you11:46
Matt___rnd_null: just stick with 32bit11:46
jadaz87hello everyone11:46
rnd_nullyep11:46
rnd_nullthats what it's gonna be11:46
rnd_null: )11:47
Matt___BDSinux: anyidea?11:47
richard_Xanadu: now i want to see the page in my computer? i use apache but i don't know where can i put it11:47
ompaulMakura, what did you use in the terminal? for instance did you use non .deb packages11:47
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Xanadurichard_: /var/www/somedirectory11:47
Makuraompaul: compiling stuff from tar.gz11:47
BSDinuxyeah wait.. i think i had to mount the ubuntu distro as root when i reinstalled grub11:47
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rnd_nullany tips on the ubuntu install i might like to know?11:47
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Xanadurichard_: then point browser to http://localhost/somedirectory11:47
metalheddrnd_null, its a breeeeze11:47
rnd_nullthanks11:47
BSDinuxjust booted with the live cd, then mounted the ubuntu partition, then chrooted to ubuntu11:48
Matt___are you going to dual boot?11:48
soundrayrnd_null, avoid LVM unless you have some experience with it.11:48
BSDinuxi have a quad-boot... ;-)11:48
metalheddrnd_null, ubuntu has one of the easiest installs i've used.11:48
rnd_nullno, i'm going straight linux11:48
Matt___ok11:48
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Matt___go for it11:48
Matt___you'll have alot of fun11:48
BSDinuxubuntu/winxp/freebsd/macosx11:48
Klick_http://pastebin.com/602557  hey all can anyone tell me why after i install XGL can i NOT open up gnome?11:48
BSDinuxgot it up and running11:48
_jasonallievo: chfn command11:48
rnd_nulli'm through with microshaft, they belong in the circus, the only os that is self destructive11:48
ompaulMakura, what did you compile from tar.gz?11:48
Makuraompaul: A bunch of stuff =\11:49
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Matt___BSDinux: ?11:49
metalheddrnd_null, good call, I haven't touched windows (except for at work) in 5 years11:49
ompaulMakura, I would suggest that may be where the problem lies11:49
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kagei typed "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this :11:49
BSDinuxi think you have to do it that way.. chroot to your ubuntu hd11:49
rnd_nullthats what i would like to say 5 years from now11:49
Matt___man i am still a n00b11:49
b33rhow can I install wine?11:49
Makuraompaul: Ack, but what is the problem? >_<11:49
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kagehold on a sec I messed up XD11:49
raheelhi11:49
Makuraompaul: Did you read the other output I pasted?11:49
Matt___could you help me BSDinux?11:49
ompaulMakura, I am going to get the bot to send you a set of pages about how you should install stuff in ubuntu, I have read all you posted11:50
raheelcan anyone help me work realplayer in the mozillla firefox browser11:50
metalheddrnd_null, it takes time to figure out how to do all th things yoou used to be able to do before, but once you get it figured out you'll just have no need to boot back to windows ever.11:50
jadaz87has anyone had success with installing ndiswrapper in ubuntu?11:50
raheelthis is the only thing that isnt working for me11:50
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weedarjadaz87, sure11:50
metalheddjadaz87, I did once.11:50
Makuraompaul: I install stuff only if I can't get it from Synaptic, but what do you suggest I do11:50
soundrayjadaz87: it *can* work.11:50
BSDinuxmatt, just a moment11:50
b33rcan anyone tell me how 2 install wine?11:50
jadaz87weedar: i keep running into the cannot find kernel source problem11:50
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Matt___sure11:50
soundrayb33r: how about 'sudo apt-get install wine'?11:51
weedarjadaz87, in that case - install the kernel source =)11:51
metalheddjadaz87, you need to install a kernel source tree. check synaptic for11:51
raheelcan anyone help me with realplayer in the mozilla browser11:51
raheelpleaee11:51
wastrelMakura:  did you add univers & multivers repositories?11:51
rnd_nulli tried linux back in 95 and didn't have a really good time, i just recently (last month) found out how far it's come in useability and have decided to give it a try again11:51
ompaulMakura, you see I find that hard to believe cos there are over 17000 packages in synaptic for 5.1011:51
raheeli already installed realplayer 10 on my computer11:51
Random_Transithey, how do i uninstall old kernels?11:51
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Makurawastrel: I believe I did11:51
gazanferanybody knows which package do i need to setup samba?11:51
richard_Xanadu: Thank you... now i can see my pages... Thanks a lot11:51
kageI type in "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this message: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error11:51
raheelbut i cant get to work on streaming audio11:51
kageany help?11:51
Makuraompaul: What about Hamachi?11:51
ompaulwastrel, allready there got the bot to give Makura lots11:51
Xanadurichard_: np11:51
metalheddrnd_null, took me 3 years or so of going back and forth before I found a distro (gentoo) that taught me enough that I never needed to go back to windows again11:52
Makuraompaul: What should I do about this though?11:52
jadaz87weedar: oh ok thanks because i was afraid i whould end up not using ubuntu :-Z i am on suse 10.0 right now :-\11:52
soundrayrnd_null: back then you didn't have a chance, unless you compiled your own kernel...11:52
wastrelokey dokey11:52
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raheelcan anyone help with realplayer11:52
maxhello all, i have made dmraid work with a ubuntu instalation "from scratch" with a breezylivecd11:52
Random_Transitkage....worst case scenario...the NTFS drive's boot sector is borked11:52
weedarjadaz87, I haven't used Suse in years so I don't know how easy it is to use, but Ubuntu has so far the best distribution I've tried/used :)11:52
rnd_nulli played with gentoo a little and i dont like the gentoo command line11:52
soundraykage, maybe you don't have an NTFS on hda1?11:53
BSDinuxmatt open a terminal and create a folder for your orignial ubuntu11:53
metalheddrnd_null, the command line is pretty much the same in every distro11:53
ompaulMakura, okay well first off I don't know whats taking down your machine, and without it here and watching at whats going on I don't think I can find the actual culprit11:53
Choddercommand lines? how does gentoo bash differ from ubuntu bash?11:53
kageit's XP so it's ntfs right?11:53
Chodderlol11:53
Xanaduraheel: never heard of anyone running realplayer in firefox under linux but you should try the mplayer firefox plugin - might just play those ra files11:53
rnd_nullright, but there's just something about it...not sure what11:53
BSDinuxsudo mkdir /ubuntu for example11:53
rnd_nullits like uncomfortable socks11:53
soundraykage, is it on hda1 for sure?11:53
maxtrying to install the 2.6.15-6 kernel, its impossible to manage dmraid to work with it?11:53
raheeli have all the plugins11:53
weedarjadaz87, what you could do is try "uname -r" in console to find out which kernel version you're using and then do a search for a kernel-headers package for that version :) If you use synaptic or adept that should be easy :)11:53
Makuraompaul: Oh..11:53
raheelbut they just wont work11:53
metalheddrnd_null, I actually like it better than ubuntu's if anything.. its coloured better by default :)11:53
Matt___ok11:53
kagei'm fairly sure, I tried hda2 as well and got the same message11:53
jadaz87weedar: yes i know that is why i wanted to get ndiswrapper to work on ubuntu :-)11:54
virusI'm having some troubles logging into another Ubuntu Box via XDMCP - the GUI is far from snappy - it's not a network issue as x apps started via "ssh -X" work as expected: fast and snappy. Just XDMCP is causing this problems. I'm running Ubuntu Breezy on both boxes.11:54
Matt___BSDinux: pm me11:54
Makuraompaul: Well, can you tell me where I might learn to install windows and use a dual boot so I can just run stuff off windows?11:54
ompaulMakura, it is not something one usually sees, I don't know that program, I had a quick look at it11:54
Random_Transitkage, do you have entries for hda* in /etc/fstab?11:54
Matt___this place is getting to crowded11:54
jadaz87weedar: oh ok so just install all the kernel headers?11:54
rnd_nullmetalhead, is this how i make the text red?11:54
kagelet me check11:54
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weedarjadaz87, yes - the one that matches your kernel version11:54
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kageno11:54
rnd_nullmetalhedd, is this red?11:55
Matt___ok i mkdir now11:55
metalheddrnd_null, yep11:55
Random_Transithmm..okay, so then doing a sudo mount -a won't work11:55
ompaulMakura, lots of pages there for you to read, when you are done I would consider the following if it is not native to Ubuntu then you need to be very careful about building a package11:55
rnd_nullmetalhedd, ok, so now it should easier11:55
BSDinuxdon't know how to pm.. lol. k, now mount your ubuntu harddisk.. sudo mount /dev/hdb /ubuntu11:55
jadaz87weedar: because there are a couple i think i have to install the 386 version11:55
MdSalihGDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin.X L0 0br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 Error: command could not be executed! Please install the X server or correct GDM configuration and restart GDM11:56
MdSalihANyone know what taht means :-.11:56
MdSalihand how to fix ?11:56
Matt___BSDinux: i must specify the filesystem type11:56
Matt___ext3?11:56
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maxQ: dmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... Getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.11:56
Makuraompaul: I didn't understand the last part you said =P11:56
rnd_nullmetalhedd, when i tried nix before i used slackware with xwindows11:56
jadaz87weedar: that is what the kernel messages say when i first boot up before the ubuntu splash screen comes up11:56
metalheddrnd_null, how is the font color in your irc client going to make the command line easier? :)11:56
Random_Transitkage, do you mind if i PM you?...as Matt____ said, it's crowded here...11:56
Random_Transitanyone else who can possibly help kage is free to join in...11:56
weedarjadaz87, if you write "uname -r" in a console window, what output does that give you?11:56
kageRandom Transit: no, I don't11:56
kageI don't mind11:56
soundraykage, what partition is Ubuntu root on? (First line of your "mount" output)11:56
rnd_nullmetalhedd, i did it so you can see me better11:56
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metalheddrnd_null,  I see I see.11:56
BSDinuxhmm... is hdb your ubuntu hd?11:56
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kagesoundray 1sec lol11:57
kagehda311:57
metalheddrnd_null, It was fine before though :)11:57
richard_Xanadu: I have another question... why i can save any page in this directory? /var/www11:57
Matt___im pretty sure11:57
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BSDinuxah11:57
rnd_nullmetalhedd, ok11:57
Matt___well it was / when i formated it11:57
jadaz87weedar: it says 2.6.12-9-38611:57
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BSDinuxshould be hdb111:57
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BSDinuxbecause that's the partition11:57
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Matt___ok it did11:57
Matt___it mnted11:57
jocke1shello everybody. I am trying to install Krusader 1.7 deb but I seem to be missing libqt3c102-mt ?? Any ideas how to fix that?11:58
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nicholaspaulSamba trouble : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart doesnt do anything. Anyone know why that might be?11:58
digital00ri-sera11:58
BSDinuxnow activate it by using sudo chroot /ubuntu11:58
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nicholaspauljocke1s, might be obvious, but you can try googling for it.11:58
maxdmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... --- OK compiling, but getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.11:58
soundraykage, have you got the ntfsprogs package installed?11:58
Blissexjocke1s: if you use an APT frontend that should not have happened.11:58
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Matt___ok11:58
Matt___done11:58
kageI doubt it...unless it's installed by default...11:58
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Blissexjocke1s: it looks like anyhow that you are installing a binary for a different version of Ubuntu than the one you have installed.11:58
BSDinuxk, now you are in your original ubuntu again... try sudo grub-install /dev/hda now11:59
Xanadurichard_: er what do you mean?11:59
Blissexjocke1s: 'libqt3c102-mt' is for Hoary and before.11:59
Matt___ok11:59
BSDinuxdid it work?12:00

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