[12:00] <frank23> PsyberOne: its equivalent to a reinstall
[12:00] <clem_yeats> Maxus : some kind of Samba client..
[12:00] <Seveas> PsyberOne, impossible
[12:00] <oklinux> I was using debian before using ubuntu my hd crashed on me.
[12:00] <wweasel> Could someone please help me with setting up wpasupplicant? I am following the instructions on a HOWTO but am running into trouble.
[12:00] <PsyberOne> i was afraid of that
[12:00] <brenner> smellican, oklinux: debian-based
[12:00] <MaXuS> ow i was looking in the filebrowser at connect to server.
[12:00] <kameron> !tell firstent about xgl
[12:00] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, malone is a component of launchpad
[12:00] <wweasel> I get the error message "Failed to read configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'." even though I have made that configuration file.
[12:00] <oklinux> brenner debain-base ?
[12:01] <dispanser> wweasel: do you have read permissions on that file?
[12:01] <smellican> it's debian :P
[12:01] <clem_yeats> wweasel : is there sufficient permissions ?
[12:01] <loki> having issues getting an ms optical wireless mouse working properly (it moves, but it constantly brings up the right-click menu in fluxbox and the buttons are dodgey). The keyboard works fine though? I've tried all the protocols in xorg.conf (now using ImPS/2). would this be an X thing or a kernel thing?
[12:01] <robertj> how do you turn an .mp4 into a video dvd?
[12:02] <brenner> smellican: tell that to the guy who tried to dist-upgrade from sarge to breezy
[12:02] <smellican> LOL
[12:02] <clem_yeats> lol
[12:02] <smellican> brenner, it uses apt-get...it's debian for all intents and purposes :P
[12:03] <smellican> oklinux said it best:  easier debian
[12:03] <wweasel> dispanser, no I didn't. It was root only. I figured it was OK because I was accessing it using sudo, but from a root terminal it works now.
[12:03] <clem_yeats> I wouldn't said easier... I'd say preconfigured, ready to use Debian.
[12:03] <wweasel> dispanser, how would I change the permissions on it from a terminal?
[12:03] <Sanne> oklinux, this explains it nicely: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:03] <frank23> robertj: there is a program called   tovid  that does that.  takes any format and converts to dvd
[12:04] <Travis_> what package do I need to make apache2 have SSL? so like https://?????????
[12:04] <dispanser> wweasel: chmod +r <filename>
[12:04] <Makaraki> can I get
[12:04] <dispanser> this sets the read permission (for yourself)
[12:04] <Seveas> Travis_, libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:04] <fdsfsdf> I ned some help : My internet connection won't work at all even tho my cards are detected :(
[12:04] <Makaraki> frank_: are you there?
[12:04] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah
[12:04] <Travis_> thanks
[12:04] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i install and DL gksudo ?
[12:04] <Wizz_kidd> gk
[12:04] <robertj> frank23:  is that packaged?
[12:05] <Makaraki> I don't know why they log me out....
[12:05] <Travis_> root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:05] <Travis_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:05] <Travis_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:05] <Travis_> E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:05] <nilew> is it just me that has problems with rt2500 on my wifi?
[12:05] <frank23> robertj: no. google for it
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> my packamager isnt working casue its not there
[12:05] <robertj> http://tovid.berlios.de/
[12:05] <frank23> Makaraki: its because you pasted a bunch of lines
[12:05] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, if apt-get install ubuntu-desktop didn't install it, you have bigger problems
[12:05] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, in which case you'd better simply reinstall
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> well the apt install thing
[12:05] <dispanser> wweasel: but you will probably want to do: chmod o+r because you want to allow read permissions for other users (that's what the 'o' is for)
[12:05] <robertj> frank23: it does hvae one!
[12:05] <Makaraki> frank_:I tried a lot of time to join but ubuntu doesn't allow me
[12:05] <gilesw> how do i change the default app to run files?
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> tried to install from the CD
[12:05] <gilesw> i want to use vlc for videos
[12:05] <gilesw> not totem
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> and i guess those sectors of the CD is corrupted
[12:06] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i dl and install it form the internet ?
[12:06] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah you were banned for a while
[12:06] <Makaraki> frank_: I think there are a special way to give you the error report with a special paste
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell Makaraki pastebin
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell Makaraki about pastebin
[12:06] <robertj> frank23: but thanks
[12:06] <Wizz_kidd> Seveas, kknow what i mean ?
[12:06] <frank23> robertj: np
[12:07] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, remove the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:07] <Makaraki> so many things for a newbie but I wil tri
[12:07] <Travis_> Seveas what other package could it be?
[12:07] <Travis_> root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:07] <Travis_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:07] <Travis_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:07] <Travis_> E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:07] <Seveas> Travis_, do NOT paste in here
[12:08] <Travis_> k
[12:08] <Wizz_kidd> can i do a apt from the internet ?
[12:08] <brenner> gilesw: right-click media file>properties>open-with tab
[12:08] <frank23> Makaraki: give me the pastebin link when you you paste the errors there
[12:09] <Makaraki> ok
[12:09] <redguy> Wizz_kidd: sure you can
[12:09] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, yes
[12:09] <mivecz> update  manager  and  synaptic  crash  how i  resolve  these provlem
[12:09] <Makaraki> frank23: ok
[12:09] <MaXuS> is there a package for hdtv codec ?
[12:09] <ubtnwb> hi
[12:09] <b_e_n_z> any xen (http://xen.sf.net) package for ubuntu?
[12:10] <brenner> mivecz: run them in terminal.  you might get some errors
[12:10] <Knorrie> mivecz: what exactly did you do (or try to do) when it crashed?
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> Seveas, could you give me thatapt code again
[12:10] <mivecz> update  manager  start 2-3 seconds  after  disappear
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> for the ubuntu desktop  htingy
[12:10] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> thanks
[12:10] <mivecz> synaptick is  workk   but  after
[12:11] <mivecz> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
 E: Unable to correct dependencies
[12:11] <ubtnwb> somebody can say me a dapper repository with decent transfer rate?
[12:11] <freenodes> when upgrading breezy->dapper, is that thru apt-gets or need reinstall?
[12:11] <Knorrie> freenodes: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:11] <dispanser> b_e_n_z: i have xen-tools package in my repository, but i'm using dapper so i'm not sure about breezy users
[12:11] <ubtnwb> i am doing dist-upgrade and archive.ubuntu.com downloads at 10 kn/s...
[12:11] <b_e_n_z> dispanser, ic
[12:12] <balu1> how do i go about installing a new video card ???
[12:12] <balu1> its a PCI card
[12:12] <Makaraki> frank23: I'm not used to use the english lenguage and once I had already filed the form how to send it to you?
[12:12] <mivecz> i use  kde 3.5
[12:12] <brenner> balu1: take the old one out and put the new one in? :P
[12:12] <kbrooks> is ubuntu easy?
[12:12] <Knorrie> mivecz: sounds bad, can you open a terminal, and type 'sudo apt-get update', and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and paste all output to pastebin.com?
[12:12] <balu1> brenner well its sorta diff..
[12:12] <frank23> Makaraki: just paste the link here
[12:13] <NiskuP> Later
[12:13] <mikebot> does anyone know why it is that sometimes in firefox it doesn't display images?
[12:13] <maximaus> Seveas, I think I switched off cron when editing the run levels, would explain those files getting huge. LOL. Thanks, deleted files then touched them.
[12:13] <smellican> who knows why synaptic is giving this error on fluxbox install :     " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox
[12:13] <mivecz> mivecz@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <mivecz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:13] <mivecz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:13] <balu1> brenner:  i have a integrated gfx card on my mobo.  I want to install my 3dfx Voodoo card.. but when i installed it, xserver isnt starting properly
[12:13] <Wizz_kidd> ey Seveas thanks for helping a Gnome n00b out that worked ;) thanks again
[12:13] <firstent> does any of u uses limewir?
[12:13] <balu1> brenner: so im not sure what to do.
[12:13] <firstent> does any of u uses limewire?
[12:13] <mikebot> anyone please?
[12:13] <Seveas> mivecz, don't paste in here
[12:13] <Knorrie> mivecz: paste to pastbin.com, not here
[12:13] <mivecz> ok sorry
[12:13] <brenner> balu1: did you try reconfigging xorg?
[12:13] <gazanfer> i got an error while installing fluxbox, can anyone please help me?
[12:14] <dispanser> mikebot: maybe you have activated the option to only show images from the same server?
[12:14] <Makaraki> frank: its called frank23: Azureus error
[12:14] <oklinux> no just tequilla and lime firstent
[12:14] <Knorrie> mivecz: first, close al other package manager programs, like synaptic
[12:14] <balu1> brenner: well i dno when to do that??? ive never installed a card in linux b4..
[12:14] <mivecz> is  close
[12:14] <mivecz> :)
[12:14] <brenner> kbrooks: depends.  you usually have to buy her a few drinks.
[12:14] <mivecz> how  can i  restart kde
[12:14] <brenner> balu1: have you already put the card in and tried booting?
[12:15] <mivecz> in terminal
[12:15] <ompaul> mivecz, ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:15] <mikebot> dispanser, well i saw the images  second ago, but now they don't appear
[12:15] <balu1> brenner: right. it disables xserver
[12:15] <Knorrie> mivecz: why restart kde?
[12:15] <balu1> brenner: put my gfx card in, and x doesnt load..
[12:15] <gazanfer> can anyone help me about this error? i got it while installing fluxbox: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox
[12:15] <dispanser> strange. never seen that, sorry
[12:15] <frank23> Makaraki: I don't know. I can tell you how I installed azureus. the way you did it, the auto update won't work anyways
[12:15] <mikebot> it's okay
[12:15] <Wizz_kidd> iu like this gnome over kde seems more well put together
[12:16] <ubtnwb> a mirror to for archive.ubuntu.com with decent DL rate?
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: b0rk3d packages....
[12:16] <Makaraki> frank23: Ok thanks again
[12:16] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, i prefer kde.  it depends somewhat on what's important to you.  they each have advantages
[12:16] <brenner> balu1: right.  you should get dumped to a prompt.  you should then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <gazanfer> Knorrie, what does that mean?
[12:16] <Wizz_kidd> what is a good music player for Gnome similar to amarok for kde
[12:16] <mivecz> before  superkaramba crash  before  1-2 months someone  tell me  a  command to  restart kde and is  work ok
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: packages shouldn't use the same filenames while not conflicting with each other
[12:16] <mivecz> restart for  terminal
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: that's debian policy
[12:16] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, you can use amarok with gnome
[12:16] <dispanser> mivecz: so your kde is currently not running?
[12:16] <frank23> Makaraki: download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.4.0.0_linux.tar.bz2?download
[12:17] <Wizz_kidd> sethk, i do more developing etc kde might be a little mroe user friednly but i like this a lil better
[12:17] <Sanne> ubtnwb, there's a tool for finding the fastest mirror... apt-spy, I believe.
[12:17] <mivecz> dispanser now kde is  running
[12:17] <Wizz_kidd> sethk, I was trying to keep things native ;)
[12:17] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: banshee maybe?
[12:17] <dispanser> mivecz: if it's running, why don't you just use the menu for a restart?
[12:17] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, I'm a developer also.  I'm still trying to figure out how to resize windows with alt-right click in gnome.  I've heard that it's possible, but I haven't found the secret
[12:17] <gazanfer> Knorrie, now what should i do?
[12:17] <mivecz> is now  work
[12:18] <dispanser> k
[12:18] <gilesw> dunno why they don't use vlc as the default movie player..
[12:18] <mivecz> nothing  i  do   33 times:P
[12:18] <Eleaf> hi
[12:18] <gilesw> it just plays everything no hastle
[12:18] <frank23> ubtnwb: use a local mirror us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:18] <Knorrie> gazanfer: remove blackbox, or tell apt to force things
[12:18] <dispanser> gilesw: mplayer does that, too :)
[12:18] <Makaraki> frank23: do I have to dpkg --purge azureus before?
[12:19] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah ok
[12:19] <gilesw> k i'll try that
[12:19] <gazanfer> Knorrie, weird thing is, i never installed blackbox :)
[12:19] <gilesw> apt-get install azereus
[12:19] <balu1> brenner thanks, ill be afk for a few min..
[12:19] <gilesw> oops
[12:19] <gilesw> lols
[12:19] <Stormx2> gilesw: Wrong window :P
[12:19] <gilesw> where's me xterm!
[12:19] <Knorrie> gazanfer: dpkg -l | grep black
[12:19] <AnObfuscator> Can anyone help me figure out why I can't mount my IDE HFS+ drive? I keep getting a weird "unable to find superblock" error
[12:20] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: what's the mount command you are using?
[12:20] <gilesw> hmm it's not in me repos..
[12:20] <mivecz>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? (what is these?
[12:20] <SAM_theman> yo people
[12:20] <Makaraki> frank23: it is that correct after cheking with dpkg -l azureus : pn  azureus        <ninguna>      (no hay ninguna descripcin disponible)
[12:20] <SAM_theman> my sound still doesn't work :C
[12:20] <brenner> mivecz: close synaptic
[12:21] <mikebot> does ubuntu come with another web browser besides firefox?
[12:21] <frank23> Makaraki: do a sudo apt-get remove azureus
[12:21] <brenner> mivecz: w3m :P
[12:21] <dispanser> mikebot: mozilla suite is installed, too
[12:21] <dispanser> mikebot: at least on my system
[12:21] <mikebot> dispanser, how do i open that?
[12:21] <frank23> Makaraki: mkdir ~/opt   and copy the file you downloaded to ~/op
[12:21] <brenner> dispanser: not on mine :-/
[12:21] <gazanfer> Knorrie,  seems like you were right. i got blackbox installed
[12:22] <mikebot> dispanser, oh,..i don't see that under internet
[12:22] <dispanser> mikebot: then it's probably not installed... apt-get install mozilla
[12:22] <Makaraki> frank23: ok
[12:22] <mikebot> dispanser, thanks
[12:22] <AnObfuscator> Dispanser: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdc1 [mountpoint] 
[12:22] <brenner> mikebot: what's wrong with ff?
[12:22] <mivecz> brenner  i dont  look  synaptic   no  where in desktop so   grrrrrrrr
[12:22] <mikebot> brenner, for some reason, sometimes it doesn't display images
[12:22] <mivecz> i  close synaptic  maybe is  run   behind?
[12:23] <Chodder> Is there a way to use apt-get to remove all of gnome?  apt-get remove gnome is only going to remove the base
[12:23] <frank23> Makaraki: then   cd ~/opt    tar zjvf Azureus.filename
[12:23] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: that mount cmd looks good...
[12:24] <brenner> mikebot: is this 1.5 or 1.0.7?
[12:24] <Knorrie> gazanfer: so there's a bug in the fluxbox package, because it should have a 'Conflicts' line against blackbox
[12:24] <pramz> hi
[12:24] <Chodder> BTW, im using kubuntu dapper, and i installed gnome but don't really want it anymore
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, 1.5
[12:24] <frank23> Makaraki: if you speak spanish you can also try  #ubuntu-es  for spanish discussion
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, and like i'll see the images, but later i wont
[12:24] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: yeah, it's how I mounted other drives i've added. I get the HFS+ superblock error from dmesg
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, like if i go to the page again
[12:24] <dispanser> from dmesg?
[12:24] <TheUltimateWarri> Anybody managed to install postfix with SASL?
[12:24] <dispanser> not on the cmd line? That's strange
[12:24] <vincenz> Why can't the new totem-gstreamer not play any formats that totem-xine could... it just shows drawings of what is most likely an audio-display
[12:25] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: mount tells me to check dmesg
[12:25] <Knorrie> TheUltimateWarri: yes
[12:25] <TheUltimateWarri> Knorrie, Any step-by-step directions available?! :D
[12:25] <gilesw> hmm mplayer looks nice but it goes crazy when playing
[12:25] <gilesw> keeps asking for pcm device 0
[12:25] <Stormx2> gilesw: Just use Audacious :P
[12:26] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html ?
[12:26] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: hm, no idea, sorry.
[12:26] <Makaraki> frank23: I used tar jxvf instead of yours but It seems being well descompressed
[12:26] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: or isn't the answer to your question around there?
[12:26] <mivecz> brenner?
[12:26] <RemyLaptop> hi guys: how do I add an application to start up ?
[12:26] <mivecz> brenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these
[12:26] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Let me take a peek and I'll let you know! :)
[12:26] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: thanks anyway
[12:27] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah. I made a mistake there ;)
[12:27] <SAM_theman> i gives me this http://pastebin.com/600667
[12:27] <SAM_theman> I get that
[12:27] <frank23> Makaraki: cd azureus,  ./azureus
[12:27] <Knorrie> RemyLaptop: (gnome) system -> preferences -> sessions
[12:27] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I think that's the thing... But would you remember which Ubuntu packages you've installed to get it working?
[12:27] <Stormx2> RemyLaptop: Careful doing that though. it waits for the apps to finish before continuing... I think
[12:27] <Psykus> i'm having problems again with gnome starting to fail to refresh windows, and then freezing hard where I can't do anything...I asked in here before, and with help I determined it was being caused by some sort of network printer problem, I did something and was able to stop it from happening, but i've had to recently install ubuntu again, and it's started again. i've turned off printer sharing on the windows box it's connected to, and even disabled file/pri
[12:27] <Psykus> nter sharing altogether, yet it still keeps freezing. i've also tried killing the cupsd process
[12:28] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: what exactly are you trying to do, and what errors do /var/log/syslog show?
[12:28] <SAM_theman> Try openin termianl and type " killall gnome-panel  "
[12:28] <Wizz_kidd> what is a location i can use with apt-get that has Opera in it ?
[12:28] <Makaraki> frank23: well now its on the screen
[12:28] <Psykus> if I could figure out a way to uninstall cups without uninstalling the gnome-desktop package, I would
[12:28] <Stormx2> "Update your system using your favorite apt tool for the visible user password fix" <-- What is this about?
[12:28] <Psykus> but the package manager won't let me force it
[12:28] <Knorrie> Wizz_kidd: you can use the .deb from opera.com, use the etch version
[12:29] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I just want that everybody not in 'mynetworks' could authenticate with their regular unix password to be able to use the smtp service.
[12:29] <frank23> Makaraki: the program started?
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: The breezy installer left the 1st user's password in a world readable file in /var/log/installer
[12:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ok, that helps me to help :)
[12:29] <Makaraki> frank23: time to chek if it works ... he he a lot of thanks
[12:29] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, :D
[12:29] <Stormx2> cafuego: And you only just noticed? :
[12:29] <Stormx2> :P
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: me?
[12:29] <frank23> Makaraki: no problem. you installed as a user in your home directory so the auto-update will work this way
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: No, I never had this problem.
[12:30] <Stormx2> cafuego: Well, *we* only just noticed
[12:30] <Psykus> if I kill the GUI fast enough when it starts to happen, I can save myself from rebooting
[12:30] <cwillu> anybody know of a gnutella client that has good/reasonable provisions for scripting?
[12:30] <johnny22k> hello all
[12:30] <cwillu> python or http bindings would be preferred :D
[12:30] <frank23> Makaraki: make a link in the menu for it somewhere to start it more easily
[12:30] <Psykus> but once it freezes, I can't move the cursor or switch to virtual terminals
[12:30] <Makaraki> frank23: how?
[12:30] <mivecz> brenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these
[12:30] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: (clickety)
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: auto-update? it will be automatic
[12:31] <mivecz> can n ayone help me
[12:31] <cwillu> #gnutella
[12:31] <cwillu> bah
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: if there is an update the program will tell you
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: oh the link
[12:31] <brenner> mivecz: what command are you running?
[12:31] <Makaraki> frank23: I understand the utility it has but not how to create the link
[12:31] <gilesw> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[12:32] <gilesw> i got this but it say it's mentioned
[12:32] <gilesw> i enabled every repo in the sources.list
[12:32] <frank23> Makaraki: there is a menu editor for gnome. someone here should know about it. I don't use gnome
[12:32] <dabear> alacarte(old: smeg)
[12:33] <mivecz> Sudo apt-get  update  complete ok
[12:33] <gilesw> hmm all 3rd party repos i add look for binary-amd64/Packages
[12:33] <mivecz> Sudo apt-get  dist-upgrade
[12:33] <Makaraki> frank23: Thats good enough you help I will keep in mind
[12:33] <frank23> Makaraki: no problem ;)
[12:33] <gilesw> is there a way to specifiy i386 binaries?
[12:34] <techrush> im gonna try to code a craps game in python
[12:34] <techrush> lol
[12:34] <gilesw> even though i'm runnin a64
[12:34] <techrush> good learnign project i think :)
[12:34] <Makaraki> frank23: I will search information about it, greetings from spain here its late and tomorrow time to work again...
[12:34] <frank23> gilesw: if you want to try that look in the forums for the chroot howto
[12:34] <Jambon> ok random question: how are drivers implemented in linux?
[12:34] <frank23> Makaraki: later
[12:34] <poromenos> can someone help me set up my dual head desktop? :/
[12:34] <balu1> brenner: it is asking me to select an xserver driver, im using a 3dfx voodoo3 2000, should i pick glide?
[12:34] <mikebot> brenner, why do you use ff over epiphany?
[12:34] <techrush> jambon they are kernel modules
[12:34] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, 'Dovecot provides an alternative that may be worth considering.' - What do you think about that?
[12:35] <frank23> !tell gilesw about chroot
[12:35] <Makaraki> frank23: hehe ok have fun man, ans see you here other day
[12:35] <frank23> Makaraki: ok. glad I could help
[12:35] <wickers> hey, kinda off topic, but who here knows of a good ad placement company (like adsense) that's, well, not adsense?
[12:35] <brenner> mikebot: ff was already installed. :)
[12:35] <mikebot> brenner, hehe okay
[12:35] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10145
[12:36] <Jambon> techrush: ok. how does that differe from having a binary layer? I saw this discussion on slashdot a while back, and I'm wondering how Linux's implemenation of drivers may hinder people from making drivers for linux?
[12:36] <brenner> mikebot: they both use the gecko engine don't they?  i guess i just prefer the interface
[12:36] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: dovecot is an imap server, it's not like postfix
[12:36] <mikebot> brenner, yeah they do, okay
[12:36] <Wizz_kidd> 8,000 emails on my server  damn shit
[12:36] <brenner> mikebot: but i was a long time user of mozilla
[12:36] <brenner> before i switched to ff
[12:36] <poromenos> how can i configure the X server to behave correctly on my dual screen setup
[12:36] <poromenos> ?
[12:36] <techrush> jambron im not sure....sorry
[12:36] <mikebot> brenner, me oto, until it stopped displaying images
[12:37] <brenner> balu1: i'm not sure to tell you the truth.
[12:37] <gazanfer> smellican, are you here?
[12:37] <Jambon> anyone else know about this?
[12:37] <brenner> balu1: but you could always choose vesa as a failsafe
[12:37] <UltimateWarrior> UltimateWarrior, Ok, I'm already running qpopper through inetd (pretty unstable, by the way) for POP3 access, which is all I want. I just wanted postfix to be able to authenticate users, the simplest way as possible.
[12:37] <balu1> brenner: actually i think i fiugerd that part out.. how do i figure out the PCI Bus ID??
[12:37] <gazanfer> how can i restart x server?
[12:37] <dabear> does anybody know where I can get binaries for the latest firefox development version?
[12:37] <mivecz> i  give  up
[12:37] <mivecz> :(
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: if you're unsure of something, the default is usually the right thing to choose (i.e. just press enter)
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: but you could always run lspci
[12:38] <balu1> brenner: but couldnt it be picking up my previous integrated gfx card?.. how do i run lspci during x set up?
[12:38] <cwillu> gazanfer:  ctrl+alt+backspace is an ugly way to force the issue
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: you can't.  you'd have to quit the setup
[12:38] <gazanfer> cwillu, it jumps to graphical interface in a second...
[12:38] <poromenos> someone help me, ubuntu is displayed on the wrong screen :(
[12:39] <cwillu> dabear;  check mozilla.org;  those builds will work, they're just a bit trickier to integrate completely into ubuntu
[12:39] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the pastebin i just gave you is the way to get postfix to accept relaying outbound mail and checking passwds against the local /etc/passwd
[12:39] <cwillu> gazanfer; did you want to shut it down or restart it?
[12:39] <balu1> brenner: ah i c. k well i ll figure the rest out by some trial and error.. gotta learn linux some way.. thanks man :)
[12:39] <brenner> mikebot: so epiphany works for you?
[12:39] <cwillu> ctrl+alt+backspace will restart it, taking you back to the gui
[12:39] <brenner> balu1: np good luck
[12:39] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm, got it! Thanks a lot!
[12:39] <mikebot> brenner, hrm..i thought it did...
[12:39] <Snake__> Hey guys, where are the ubuntu irc log files at?....
[12:39] <gazanfer> i think i need to restart it, but i dont know if atrl alt backspace works, because there should be a fluxbox option when i restart, its not there...
[12:39] <cwillu> oops
[12:40] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i'm sorry it's a bit complicated, but hey... sasl is too complicated :|
[12:40] <mikebot> brenner, when you go to amazon and click on a book and click look inside this book, do yous ee images?
[12:40] <brenner> cwillu: not always in my experience.  he might have to login and type 'startx'
[12:40] <cwillu> nvm the oops
[12:40] <mikebot> cause for me they aren't appearing
[12:40] <cwillu> (oops the oops)
[12:40] <dabear> cwillu, Having problem finding anything newer than  1.5.0.1. I want to test the bleeding edge, not the latest stable..
[12:40] <frank23> dabear: firefox 2 alpha came out I think
[12:40] <cwillu> dabear;  look around for tinderbox or the nightly builds;  you should be able to find something on their dev site
[12:40] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: just look at the postfix lines in your /var/log/syslog to see whatever you forgot to do
[12:41] <Snake__> Oh comeone I Know someone here knows lol
[12:41] <cwillu> gazanfer; elaborate on that;  you just installed a new wm?
[12:41] <nalioth> dabear: mozilla.org click on "developer"
[12:41] <brenner> mikebot: do you have a sample url?
[12:41] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Thanks, man! Indeed!
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: have you not already asked this?
[12:41] <gazanfer> cwillu, yes. fluxbox
[12:41] <Snake__> nalioth: I have without answer...
[12:41] <cwillu> gazanfer; there's an option on the login page to choose your session;  hit that, and you should see any new wm's in the list
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: the site is down atm
[12:41] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: actually, i do things like that on debian servers, but ubuntu is the same way.. :)
[12:41] <Snake__> nalioth: alright thats all I needed lol
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: have patience, the logs aren't goin anywhere
[12:41] <gazanfer> i did that, but its not there...
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, yeah..
[12:42] <gazanfer> cwillu, i did that, its not there...
[12:42] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, A little 'better', I'd say! :)
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/041522862X/sr=8-1/qid=1142293352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2000169-1794258?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[12:42] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ahum, please don't start flame wars
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, and click on the picture of the book
[12:42] <cwillu> gazanfer; sudo gdm restart should do the trick too, but I get the feeling fluxbox isn't installed right
[12:43] <cwillu> or is it gdm stop followed by gdm start...
[12:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, okeedokee
[12:44] <brenner> mikebot: i get a white box...
[12:44] <brenner> actually
[12:44] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i, personally prefer debian on server and ubuntu on desktop, but ymmv and perhaps you have other thoughts ;)
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, and not text from the book, right?
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, it should be showing pages
[12:44] <brenner> mike-e: the cover just loaded
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, oh..odd
[12:44] <brenner> and i see text
[12:45] <gazanfer> cwillu, how can i test if its installed right or not?
[12:45] <mikebot> brenner, for me it says 'Done' in the bottom corner, and nothing loads
[12:45] <cwillu> gazanfer; I think you did, and it's not :)
[12:45] <mstt> anyone know how to make icons smaller (gnome)
[12:45] <mstt> ?
[12:45] <brenner> mikebot: odd.  and i'm on dialup too!
[12:45] <cwillu> gazanfer; one sec, I think I've installed it on mine, let me check what packages were involved
[12:45] <judgen> Anyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?
[12:46] <gazanfer> cwillu, when i dpkg -l | grep flux, it shows up... doesnt that mean its installed?
[12:46] <mikebot> brenner, oh,...i was forcing a black background
[12:46] <brenner> matt_: which icons?
[12:46] <cwillu> not if that's not the package that makes it work
[12:46] <mikebot> brenner, and i guess this thing is a gif with the white part being transparent
[12:46] <cwillu> like installing gnome vs ubuntu-desktop :)
[12:46] <balu1> anyone here ever install a 3dfx voodoo3?
[12:47] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I completely 'moved' to Ubuntu when installing a DELL machine with a PERC controller or something like that and Debian required a lot of struggling with driver diskettes while Ubuntu would simply support it out-of-the-box... But as you said, your mileage may vary... ;)
[12:47] <balu1> wooot. got it. it worked :)
[12:47] <brenner> balu1: nice.
[12:47] <balu1> thanks brenner, go tit up and runnign, had tro change the pci slot
[12:47] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: true
[12:47] <balu1> it was picking up my integrated gfx card. had to manually put in the voodoo
[12:48] <judgen> Anyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?
[12:48] <brenner> balu1: by specifying the pci slot?
[12:48] <brenner> judgen: seveas' one might have it.
[12:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell judgen about realplayer
[12:48] <Knorrie> judgen: don't repeat please, we have eyes, we can read
[12:48] <mikebot> hrm, but epiphany doesn't load these images..odd
[12:48] <mikebot> oh there it goes
[12:48] <mikebot> takes quite a while
[12:49] <brenner> *nod*
[12:50] <judgen> brenner: what is  the deb url?
[12:50] <Makaraki> Frank23: hehe ejem... I have a problem
[12:50] <brenner> judgen: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:50] <brenner> judgen: i'm not certain they are in there though
[12:51] <Makaraki> frank23: Still you here?
[12:51] <cwillu> gazanfer;  sorry, I don't have it installed;  I'd try removing it and reinstalling it though, also, run a google and see if you can find anything regarding fluxbox gdm integration
[12:51] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah. azureus is not working?
[12:51] <gazanfer> cwillu, thx
[12:51] <SAM_theman> what does it mean when u have a nvidia card with the "Binary Drivers"??
[12:52] <SAM_theman> from ubutnu of nvidia's site??
[12:52] <cwillu> gazanfer; also, you can try running a bare xserver, and then running fluxbox by hand pointing it to that
[12:52] <Knorrie> SAM_theman: the nvidia ones
[12:52] <frank23> SAM_theman: binary drivers give you 3d acceleration
[12:52] <Knorrie> SAM_theman: the 'closed source'
[12:52] <SAM_theman> so it's better?
[12:52] <Knorrie> wel.... :)
[12:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey all, anyone know of a good regex crib sheet out there?
[12:53] <frank23> SAM_theman: if you need 3d yeah.  you can install them easily with synaptic
[12:53] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Man... After editing FSTAB to get SASL working I though 'Man, THAT's complicated!!' :o
[12:53] <SAM_theman> how
[12:53] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; the python regex docs are okay
[12:53] <SAM_theman> i have the nv drivers from synaptic already
[12:53] <SAM_theman> but can't seem to run glx gears it's not giving me fps
[12:53] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; I've also used sun's java docs, but they're much harder to find stuff in
[12:53] <Makaraki> frank23: its about sound , after closing the lastfm I can not listen to the sound of a youtube video
[12:53] <frank23> !tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[12:53] <Travis_> how can I use AuthType Digest with apache2 on Ubuntu
[12:54] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: oh, but that's because saslauthd uses a unix socket and postfix is in chroot
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu thanks, I'll check it out, just nee a quick guide when I am doing stuff
[12:54] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; I've been unimpressed by the free standing tutorials I've found though
[12:54] <frank23> Makaraki: I don't know that lastfm program
[12:54] <brenner> SAM_theman: glxgears doesn't print the fps by default
[12:54] <SAM_theman> o
[12:54] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark;   python.org, 2.4 docs, module 're'
[12:54] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: a mount --bind can be more safe than not-chrooting postfix
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, I have been using the learning perl oreilly book, but it is a pain since I dont have it in e format
[12:54] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I get the point, but let's agree that this step adds a lot of 'complication' to the whole thing! :D
[12:54] <SAM_theman> cause when i play my games i have alsome fps but no sound
[12:54] <frank23> !glxgears
[12:54] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[12:54] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure.
[12:55] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yeah, it's not really excellent documented
[12:55] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; are you doing stuff online?  i.e., trying examples as you see them?
[12:55] <SAM_theman> don't know whats up with my sound
[12:55] <cwillu> best way to learn 'em
[12:55] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, What do I need to restart to get the whole thing working? I guess I'll have to mount that mountpoint and restart postfix, right?
[12:55] <Makaraki> frank23: it also hapends when for exemple I am listening to rhythmbox ans after closing the music player the youtube videos or thevideo google not sound
[12:55] <gazanfer> cwillu, i removed and reinstalled fluxbox and it worked :)
[12:56] <SAM_theman> can u just help me on this on to
[12:56] <cwillu> gazanfer; yay!
[12:56] <SAM_theman> its about my sound
[12:56] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: mount /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd
[12:56] <Stormx2> how do I check what apps are listing to what ports?
[12:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, when I need them I use grep or sed to check them, etc. I sometimes have to write some complicated searches so I just want a quick reference
[12:56] <frank23> Makaraki: sorry I don't know
[12:56] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; no better way to figure out what match(r"(?:foo)bar(baz)", "foobarbaz") actualy does :)
[12:56] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sudo invoke-rc.d postfix restart
[12:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, right
[12:56] <Ads_> Hello All! ^_^
[12:56] <UltimateWarrior> I've mounted the shorter string :D -> 'mount /var/run/saslauthd'
[12:57] <gazanfer> cwillu, now can i remove gnome and everything related to it?
[12:57] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: if you want to use TLS also, you got to have ssl certificates
[12:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, I use sed for testing mostly...gotta love sed
[12:57] <o|AhfeeL> hi all
[12:57] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: thats ok
[12:57] <cwillu> gazanfer; depends on if you want whatever gnome integration fluxbox has or not
[12:57] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Not sure what TLS is about. Is SASL enough for plain simple password authentication?
[12:57] <Makaraki> frank23: well man no problem thanks again becouse azureus is working quite goog
[12:57] <ahFeel> could someone help me ? i need to create the /dev/tun0 device to set up a VPN
[12:57] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/600706
[12:57] <ahFeel> but i don't have any idea of how creating this device :/
[12:57] <cwillu> ahFeel; look up mktun
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yes it is, but the passwords travel in 'plain' text over the internet
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Also: What's the big deal about invoke-rc.d? I always run /etc/init.d/service blahblah...
[12:58] <SAM_theman> thats what i get when i try to play music or my games
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: so blah tcpdump... ethereal etc etc
[12:58] <ahFeel> cwillu ? a lil more details please ? :)
[12:58] <gazanfer> cwillu, i dont know what you mean (im total noob), but im pretty sure i will not use anything related to gnome anymore.
[12:58] <ahFeel> is it a command ?
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: it's almost the same
[12:58] <Makaraki> Hi people I can not listen the audio from the youtube or videogogle after closing an audio player why it hapends?
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d is the 'official' way
[12:58] <Wizz_kidd> what are some sources ......i dont have many avalibale applications in my synnaptic
[12:58] <cwillu> ahFeel; what vpn are you using?  openvpn?
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm... And is it a pain-in-the-@$$ to get TSL working?
[12:58] <Wizz_kidd> like no gnomebaker etc
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Got it. Let's switch to the official stuff, then!
[12:59] <ahFeel> ahhh ok cwillu
[12:59] <ahFeel> i saw in the help
[12:59] <IdleOne> Wizz_kidd>  wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories
[12:59] <cwillu> :p
[12:59] <ahFeel> i'll try to go on on that
[12:59] <ahFeel> =] 
[12:59] <ahFeel> thank you man
[12:59] <cwillu> gazanfer; you can try removing it, if things break you should be able to reinstall ubuntu-desktop to fix it
[12:59] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: depends... it's handy to know things about ssl, certificate authorities etc
[01:00] <SAM_theman> !soundproblems
[01:00] <ubotu> soundproblems is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:00] !lilo:*! Channel hint.... in addition to the various existing channels on web site design and standards, a new group, on #httpcraft, a channel for friendly and knowledgeable assistance to folks putting together web sites. I think they'd like your help in growing a bit. :)
[01:00] <cwillu> gazanfer; unless you're running on a 300mhz with a 500MB hard drive, it's probably not worth it (imho)
[01:00] <Rubin> what exactly is the difference between the stock kernel.org kernel and an ubuntu one?
[01:00] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok. So I'd have to generate keys and stuff like that? What about client configuration after doing that?
[01:00] <rob138> what would cause all my repositories being 404 not found?
[01:00] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: but there are lots of howto's on the web about creating a simple self-signed cert
[01:00] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: eg http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html
[01:00] <Rubin> i need to build a 2.6.16 kernel should i try to patch it with ubuntu?
[01:00] <Ads_> Hello all, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.
[01:00] <cwillu> rob138, paste your sources.list (use the pastebin)
[01:00] <cwillu> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:00] <Wizz_kidd> IdleOne, where are the repsositories?
[01:01] <gazanfer> cwillu, thx again. bye all
[01:01] <cwillu> Rubin; I believe there are packages in synaptic with the ubuntu patches already applied
[01:01] <IdleOne> Wizz_kidd>  you need to enable universe and multiverse. follow that link I gave you
[01:01] <Rubin> cwillu: i need 2.6.16 specifically, and its not in there yet
[01:01] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Cool. By the way, how can I test the authentication now? I'm familiar with 'telnetting smtps' but I don't have a clue about how I'd authenticate on it...
[01:01] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the client doesn't need configuration most of the time. fetchmail won't complain, thunderbird etc users will see a dialog telling them if they want to trust your server
[01:01] <b33r> how can I install java?
[01:01] <rob138> where is my sources.list?
[01:01] <IdleOne> !java
[01:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:02] <ReadTopicForTime> I'm so psyched for tomorrow's meeting
[01:02] <b33r> ty
[01:02] <IdleOne> rob> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <IdleOne> rob138> > /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: fetchmail?
[01:02] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ow no
[01:02] <silvaran> Rubin: There was a wiki post on digg awhile back on compiling your own kernel (with or without ubuntu patches--I'm afraid you're going to have to go without), I'll see if I can find it.
[01:03] <cwillu> IdleOne; gotta love it when completion requires more keypresses than just typing the thing in the first place :)
[01:03] <rob138> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10147
[01:03] <IdleOne> lol yeah
[01:03] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: erhm... using a mail client and configuring smtp server with a login is the most simple i guess
[01:03] <jdmpike2> hello
[01:03] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I think I'll just set up something like that, thanks.
[01:03] <felix_> hi, i am searching for the command to run Open Office writer in terminal ? can someone help
[01:04] <Rubin> silvaran: i know how to do it, with. just curious if i need to keep anything in mind when going without
[01:04] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: on the cli... i used to use esmtp
[01:04] <slynux> hey I need install the  libqt-mt.so.3 library
[01:04] <LucasArruda> People, is there a way to install Dapper Drake from a LiveCD with a ISO on a ReiserFS?
[01:04] <jdmpike2> when is Dapper RC going to be released?
[01:04] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Last, but not least... I'm having some weird behaviour with qpopper/inetutils-inetd. It just becomes unavailable after a while, then I have to restart inetd. Any suggestion?
[01:04] <cwillu> rob138; are all the repositories giving 404's, or just some/most?
[01:04] <mikeo1> hmmm
[01:04] <silvaran> Rubin: Well you're going to lose stuff like linux-restricted-modules (including the nvidia stuff) which you'll need to add back on yourself if you have an nvidia card... if you're using ndiswrapper you're also going to have to compile it yourself (for the ndiswrapper module).
[01:05] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: no, i never used qpopper
[01:05] <cwillu> rob138; next, do you use a proxy?
[01:05] <felix_> How cna i run Oowriter from console ?
[01:05] <Kyral> felix_, oowriter?
[01:05] <silvaran> Rubin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835 lists some of the gotchas.
[01:05] <Rubin> thanks
[01:05] <rob138> some/most, i am also cannot connect to gaim, and had to ping irc.freenode.net before connecting to irc, i think there is something wrong with my computer figuring out adresses
[01:05] <felix_> doesnt work :\
[01:05] <cwillu> rob138; finally, can you enter any of the url's in firefox and have them show up?
[01:05] <felix_> command not found
[01:05] <slynux> Hi b33r, I can help you step by step
[01:05] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10148
[01:05] <rob138> i am on a wireless router (not sure about proxy)
[01:06] <Kyral> felix_, uhh, go to Menu Editor and find out what command the Menu Entry is runnign?
[01:06] <judgen> haha i just tried to install ksirc from dappers repo and now im apperantly upgrading the entire system =P
[01:06] <cwillu> rob138; paste the output of "host -v archive.ubuntu.com"
[01:06] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: without TLS(encryption) dont use the TLS section from main.cf, and dont use smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
[01:06] <cwillu> also, what model/type of router is it?
[01:07] <slynux> How I can refresh the Ubuntu Bredzy to Dapper, I can't
[01:07] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Thanks a lot!
[01:07] <firstent> !c
[01:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firstent
[01:07] <rob138> cwillu, what part of it?
[01:07] <firstent> !c++
[01:07] <cwillu> the whole thing
[01:07] <cwillu> paste bin it
[01:07] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Do you suggest anything to replace qpopper?
[01:07] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: when using tls, be sure tlsmgr is uncommented at the bottom of /etc/postfix/master.cf (no problem :)
[01:08] <Ads_> people, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.
[01:08] <judgen> slynux: just rename every instance of breezy to dapper in the sources.list and then type "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:08] <silvaran> slynux: Followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:08] <cwillu> Ads_; firefox open?
[01:08] <Wizz_kidd> why isnt Opera in any repsotitory
[01:08] <judgen> Wizz_kidd: it is
[01:08] <Ads_> yes cwillu
[01:08] <Wizz_kidd> what one
[01:08] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i dont know, if you want to use /var/spool/mail to collect incoming mail in mbox and just have some users who pop it from there...
[01:08] <stoat> anyone know how I can get my rtl8180 wlan card going on a PPC laptop?
[01:09] <cwillu> Ads_; check how much vm and resident its using (top in a terminal)
[01:09] <rob138> cwillu, i can get the repositories if i first ping them in the terminal, as with most sites,
[01:09] <silvaran> !tell Wizz_kidd about opera
[01:09] <Ads_> ok cwillu
[01:09] <cwillu> rob138; I really need to see the host -v archive.ubuntu.com :)
[01:09] <rob138> sure, one sec
[01:09] <slynux> I did this but I had Erros
[01:09] <cwillu> rob138; and what brand of router is it?  :)
[01:09] <Wizz_kidd>  opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:09] <cwillu> pay attention dammit :p
[01:09] <Wizz_kidd> thoght u saiud it was in the repos
[01:10] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i use Cyrus IMAPd for imap access most of the time, also for virtual hosting, with accounts that don't exist in /etc/passwd
[01:10] <silvaran> cwillu: ;)
[01:10] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: but cyrus is also a @# in the #@% for the first time
[01:10] <cwillu> Ads_; if it's more than 200Mb virtual or so, and things get immediately better when you "pkill firefox" from a terminal (which kills it)
[01:10] <rob138> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10149
[01:10] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, I wouldn't like to concern about Maildir and all that stuff... Just something that offers POP3 to the regular mbox thing.
[01:10] <cwillu> rob138; thx
[01:10] <cwillu> rob138; one sec
[01:10] <Ads_> cwilli thats fine, it does it any too
[01:11] <Ads_> anyway*
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i install a .deb file
[01:11] <judgen> plenet penguin racer rox! =)
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> sorry for sounding like a n00b
[01:11] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: there are lots of pop3 daemons outta there
[01:11] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i <pkg>.deb
[01:11] <cwillu> rob138; it's a problem with your router; it's screwing up the dns resolution just enough to confuse apt-get
[01:11] <cwillu> !1.0.0.0
[01:11] <ubotu> 1
[01:11] <cwillu> bah
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> wjat dir will that point 2
[01:11] <cwillu> who deleted that
[01:11] <rob138> cwillu, what should i do then?
[01:11] <cwillu> rob138; what type of router is it?
[01:12] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: Current directory.. so cd to where your deb file is (opera-....deb) and do a dpkg -i opera-....deb
[01:12] <cwillu> I really want to know :)
[01:12] <silvaran> cwillu: sudo apt-get install nmap :)
[01:12] <cwillu> lol
[01:12] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10148
[01:12] <rob138> cwillu, what should i do then?
[01:12] <cwillu> and I still am looking for a good solution for override dhcp's dns setting in resolv.conf
[01:12] <rob138> oops
[01:12] <Ads_> device ra0 activated but no lights on my wireless card are flashing and its not showing any activity for the network :(
[01:12] <rob138> cwillu, it is an actiontec
[01:12] <cwillu> rob138; .... :/
[01:12] <cwillu> :p
[01:12] <Wizz_kidd> thanks silvaran
[01:12] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://www.openwall.com/popa3d/ looks nice
[01:12] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I'll check them out. Strange... My mail client is asking for the SMTP password (as expected) but the password doesn't match, though I'm SURE it's right. I've just selected the client's option to use the same password it uses for POP3. :'(
[01:13] <silvaran> cwillu: Can you pass parameters to dhcpcd via the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:13] <cwillu> okay, go into the router configuration page, and look around to figure out what your isp's dns server is
[01:13] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: syslog
[01:13] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d saslauthd start
[01:13] <rob138> cwillu, do i need the username/password?
[01:13] <lechuck_> can anybody tell me what's better: server hosting at /srv or /var ... never had /srv earlier
[01:13] <cwillu> silvaran; the best I've seen so far is to do an 'up' action to add the data to resolv.conf;  I really don't like that though because if they ever fix it, you'll start getting a huge resolv.conf file
[01:13] <cwillu> rob138; probably admin|admin or admin|<blank>
[01:14] <silvaran> Ahhh...
[01:14] <cafuego> lechuck_: it makes exactly _no_ difference.
[01:14] <lechuck_> thx
[01:14] <cwillu> silvaran; I've usually been getting people to just use a static address, but I don't like doing that either
[01:14] <rob138> cwillu, no luck with those two
[01:14] <silvaran> cwillu: Yeah, I feel your pain, I was trying to help him out earlier, but couldn't figure anything out...
[01:14] <stoat> any wifi gurus around?
[01:14] <James_> hello
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; I know the problem, it's just complicated by the behaviour of dns and dhcp :)
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; his router is mangling the dns packets it passes through, just enough to confuse apt
[01:15] <Nwallins> so... i was trying to follow some instructions from /. on how to fix the cleartext passwd...  one step was 'sudo passwd base-config' but got error message 'Unknown user base-config'
[01:15] <tabby_> Does postgresql-8.1.3 need an additional source to install?
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; the major symptom is the warning message you get when you do a 'host <some host name>'
[01:15] <silvaran> cwillu: Can I see that output?
[01:15] <jdmpike2> I CAN'T WAIT FOR DAPPER!!!
[01:15] <cwillu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10149
[01:15] <soron> Ok, I managed to do something stupid.  I deleted the entire Gnome Panel and now can't figure out how to get it back.
[01:16] <cwillu> ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
[01:16] <silvaran> Ahhhh...
[01:16] <rob138> cwillu i got in!
[01:16] <Ads_> any link to a decent guide on using ndiswrapper anyone?
[01:16] <cwillu> yay!  look for a status page;  might end up going through every page on it
[01:16] <Nwallins> what's the sound of a thousand hands wanking?
[01:17] <rob138> i'm on the status page, and see two dns servers
[01:17] <logical_mark> So is XGL ever going to get to the point that it is not a pain in the but to setup?
[01:17] <silvaran> This room got blue really quick.
[01:17] <cwillu> rob138; your looking for "dns server" or "name server" or something along thos lines
[01:17] <jdmpike2> where are things in the trash can actually stored?
[01:17] <jdmpike2> I need to delete them
[01:17] <cwillu> logical_mark; -->#ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:17] <silvaran> jdmpike2: Right-click, Empty Trash :)
[01:17] <rob138> cwillu, dns #1 and #2...
[01:17] <millenium_hand> I dont know what is the sound of a thousand hands wanking
[01:17] <cwillu> rob138; what are the ip addresses?
[01:17] <bluesign> hi all, what does eject command do ?
[01:18] <Nwallins> millenium_hand: it's louder than the sound of one hand clapping
[01:18] <tabby_> ok i need to upgrade my postgres to 8.1.3 (from 8.0.3). apt-get doesn't recognize that package though
[01:18] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie,  warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied
[01:18] <silvaran> jdmpike2: Seriously, ~/.Trash, but you should be using the trash can icon.
[01:18] <rob138> 205.171.3.65 and 205.171.2.65
[01:18] <Eleaf> woaahh
[01:18] <intelikey> ok i guess i need help with 'alsa'  anyone game ?
[01:18] <jdmpike2> silvaran, it won't let me delete a few things
[01:18] <tabby_> is this not compaitble with ubuntu?
[01:18] <jdmpike2> silvaran, so I am going to cd into it and rm -r
[01:18] <cwillu> rob138; k, one second, I'm going to see if I can find a better fix than the one I'm about to tell you :)
[01:18] <Eleaf> rob138, those are my dns servers... o.o
[01:19] <Nwallins> tabby_: open synaptic, search for postgresql, and see what's available
[01:19] <logical_mark> cwillu, thanks
[01:19] <intelikey>    alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[01:19] <rob138> heh
[01:19] <Toma-> is there a wiki for kernel build?
[01:19] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: adduser postfix sasl
[01:19] <Nwallins> tabby_: most likely, it hasn't been packaged for ubuntu proper.  there may be a 3rd-party package
[01:19] <silvaran> Toma-: Try FindPage on the main wiki, there's also a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835
[01:19] <bimberi> Toma-: yep, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:20] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Adding user `postfix' to group `sasl'... Done. <- Is that what you wanted?
[01:20] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yes
[01:20] <Toma-> thanks bimberi i was looking at this page but thought it was a bit iffy...
[01:20] <tabby_> okay that's helpful! thanks
[01:20] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: drwx--x---  2 root     sasl     1024 2006-02-12 18:54 saslauthd
[01:20] <blrich> can someone help? KDE won't start because it says it can't find the .DCOPserver_myhost file. this is after a bad reboot, so I assumed it was some sort of lock issue - I deleted all the lockfiles I could find, the existing .dcop_myhost file, everything in /tmp, but still it won't work and comes up with the same error at startup. what do i do? I'm in a real bind
[01:20] <Toma-> i guess ill just use my ownm source step
[01:21] <Nwallins> tabby_: np
[01:21] <Ads_> firefox sucks tits :(
[01:21] <bimberi> Toma-: ah, kk, can only vouch for its existence, not its quality :)
[01:21] <Toma-> hehe :P
[01:21] <farous> can some one tell me how would who and w produce that no users are on the system. Then all my sounds were muted and i got a 2 users using the system while only one was and i did not have any terminal opened at the time?
[01:21] <Nwallins> Ads_: accuweather.com, the website for the forecastfox, will crash firefox if you load the animated radar overhead
[01:21] <blrich> can anyone help? please?
[01:22] <Nwallins> Ads_: well, it won't crash immediately, more like a slow death spiral that consumes all your RAM and CPU
[01:22] <abhorsen> Ok, can anyone help me out here?
[01:22] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sorry man, what did you mean with that? The saslauthd binary?
[01:22] <Ads_> nwallins, i see
[01:22] <Nwallins> Ads_: sorry, just venting my ff frustrations, too :)
[01:22] <intelikey> blrich the lock file will be in  ~/.kde/
[01:23] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: no, just to show that to use the saslautd socket, a process has to be in the sasl group
[01:23] <intelikey> or some sub dir
[01:23] <Ads_> nwallins, its ok lol
[01:23] <blrich> intelikey: deleted everything i could find in there too, still has the same error
[01:23] <silvaran> mikeo1: "Please set the correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script"
[01:23] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, So if my saslauthd is owned by root.root I'd have to chgrp it to sasl?
[01:23] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: hmmmm
[01:24] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: wait a moment (getting complicated lalalala :P )
[01:24] <intelikey> blrich perhaps a 'clean' reboot would find it for you ?
[01:24] <abhorsen> can someone help me?  I was trying to install second life with their new linux installer, but I am new to Ubuntu, and linux, and I got this error:  2006-03-14T00:17:28Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:24] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, sorry to ask so much info...
[01:24] <abhorsen> What does that mean?
[01:25] <UltimateWarrior> By the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P
[01:25] <blrich> intelikey: i would do that, except i can't run 'reboot' from the commandline kdm has provided for me. everytime i try sudo or sudo su it says 'can't lookup yourhost' and it wont work
[01:25] <Nwallins> hmm, why do i have a user 'irc'?
[01:25] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, By the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P
[01:25] <nalioth> Nwallins: are you running an irc server?
[01:25] <Nwallins> nalioth: no
[01:26] <Ivaldi> There's alot of traceroute entries showing up in my firestarter events log. should I be concerned?
[01:26] <Nwallins> nalioth: home folder shows /var/run/ircd
[01:26] <intelikey> blrich there it the problem 'hostname is not set.'  so  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    and reboot the thing from there.
[01:26] <Toma-> you have an irc server installed
[01:26] <Nwallins> nalioth: which doesn't exist
[01:26] <abhorsen> can someone please help?  Im sorry to be a pest, But it seems noone is talkin to me. . .
[01:26] <Nwallins> Toma-, nalioth: /var/run/ircd doesn't exist
[01:27] <Toma-> Nwallins: did you install an irc server at some point?
[01:27] <nalioth> Nwallins: i'm not good at mysteries, perhaps Toma- can help
[01:27] <blrich> intelikey: ctrl+alt+f1, like, break out of kdm?  how do i set the hostname, it *says* the hostname, it just can't 'look it up' according to the error
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: maybe.. i'm pretty sure i haven't
[01:27] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Just rebooted the f machine... Sometimes it just fixes everything! :D
[01:27] <Toma-> Nwallins: what time/date was it created?
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: i have a debian box that functions as a server. ubuntu is my desktop
[01:27] <cwillu> silvaran; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has the approriate line commented out
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: i am looking at /etc/passwd right now
[01:27] <UNiXWHoRe> hmmm peepz?
[01:27] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: install postfix-doc and look at /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz, i'm gonna quote from there now
[01:28] <cwillu> silvaran; easy enough to put in the dns server and uncomment to unbreak this, I think
[01:28] <Nwallins> Toma-: irc's home folder does not exist (/var/run/ircd)
[01:28] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok, installing it...
[01:28] <Toma-> Nwallins: well the easiest thing to do is just remove the user and go on with your life...
[01:28] <XpCrash> i know this has nothing to do with linux but does anyone know how to get into the bios on a g3 i mac
[01:28] <UNiXWHoRe> how do i compile a new kernel under ubuntu? tells me i need qt for xconfig and ncurses for menuconfig
[01:28] <intelikey> blrich yes "break out of kdm"     get in linux and and [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]  reboot
[01:28] <Nwallins> Toma-: easy, sure, but I'd like to sleep at night too
[01:28] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: less /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz
[01:28] <abhorsen> can somebody pleeeeeeease help me?
[01:28] <UNiXWHoRe> why arent these packages already installed?
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> silvaran, mikeo1: I saw that once.  I think it's looking for fonts in the old X (What's that called again?) directory, and can be fixed by placing a symlink to the X.org one.
[01:28] <bimberi> Nwallins, Toma-: I have an irc user too
[01:28] <ruzgar> i have a problem with evolutin i cant change the pop ports
[01:29] <Toma-> Nwallins: what permissions does this user have?
[01:29] <ruzgar> i cant find that atribute
[01:29] <Nwallins> bimberi: but no irc server/daemon installed?
[01:29] <Toma-> or what groups is it in?
[01:29] <bimberi> Nwallins: never
[01:29] <blrich> intelikey: got it, i'll try that
[01:29] <ruzgar> can anyone help me?
[01:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: erhm.. :| it's not in there... i'm searching for a dpkg-override like command
[01:29] <intelikey> abhorsen that warning you posted just means that that particular function will not be used.
[01:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: is your /var/run/saslauthd really root:root?
[01:29] <bimberi> Nwallins: haven't even run an irc client on that machine
[01:30] <Toma-> cool, i have an irc user aswell
[01:30] <Nwallins> Toma-: uid = 39   i guess it's setup by the installer?      no groups, btw
[01:30] <abhorsen> I got a warning for something, odd
[01:30] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Oh no, I was talking about `whereis saslauthd`
[01:30] <Nwallins> Toma-: i guess the mystery is solved ;)
[01:30] <Toma-> Nwallins: well no need to worry. no groups generally means no permissions
[01:30] <silvaran> Nwallins: If it makes you feel any better, I have that user too... I wouldn't worry about it.
[01:30] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sorry! `which saslauthd`
[01:30] <intelikey> other than the lldlinux one abhorsen ?
[01:30] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: what permissions does /var/run/saslauthd have?
[01:31] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Let me see...
[01:31] <Nwallins> the thought of some script kiddie using my box and pipe for a irc warez server...   :/
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; are you getting any of my messages in the other chat
[01:31] <Toma-> sif a script kiddie could break a linux box
[01:31] <UNiXWHoRe> somebody help me please, i need to get qt-devel or ncurses-devel, so i can configure and compile a new kernel...
[01:31] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, drwx--x---  2 root sasl 136 2006-03-13 21:31 /var/run/saslauthd/
[01:31] <rob138> cwillu, no did you get mine?
[01:31] <bimberi> Nwallins: looks like it comes with the default install
[01:31] <abhorsen> Im sorry, Im slow, I have no freakin Idea what I am doing intelikey
[01:31] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: oh thats ok
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; yep :)
[01:31] <rob138> try again
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; I wrote like 30 lines of instructions :)
[01:31] <rob138> i was disconnected
[01:31] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: just try to send some mail :)
[01:32] <rob138> sorry
[01:32] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok! :)
[01:32] <cwillu> rob138; I take it you're not seeing them still :p
[01:32] <abhorsen> all I did was run the program, and the last thing in the log was that.  What it means, no clue.
[01:32] <cwillu> rob138; how did you end up fixing it?
[01:32] <rob138> yeah do i need to turn them on in xirc?
[01:32] <abhorsen> I just want it to work!!!
[01:32] <Nwallins> Toma-: i am part of a hosting cooperative..  a hole in Drupal allowed an italian warez group to use our main debian box to serve movies
[01:33] <Toma-> what the heck is drupal?
[01:33] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: nonetheless i recommend reading some docs about what you're doing now, so you understand all of it... that's a good thing
[01:33] <Nwallins> Toma-: CMS for php
[01:33] <Makura> Is it possible to use remote desktop between a computer using Linux and a computer using Windows?
[01:33] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe if you don't even know how to install a devel package why are you compiling a kernel ?    but at any rate,   use  apt-cache search <package>  to find the full package name you are trying to get and then   sudo apt-get install <package>
[01:33] <silvaran> Makura: yup, vnc or rdp
[01:33] <rob138> well i first went to networking from administration in gnome, and saw that one of the dns servers was not one of the two i mentioned, in fact it was an old one from another wireless connection, so i changed that, but it didnt seem to do me any help, so i edited resolv.conf and saw the same results as networking, so i again changed it, and now everything is working perfectly
[01:33] <Toma-> Nwallins: i see.
[01:33] <Makura> silvaran: Awesome, I didn't know VNC worked for Linux.  Thanks.
[01:34] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure! Just to let you know, sendimg mail succeeded, but now POP3 sucked! :P
[01:34] <mettallicat> hey dudes ... i'm wondering why i've this error
[01:34] <cwillu> rob138; okay, that's the root cause :)
[01:34] <mettallicat> root@aragon:/etc/X11# nano xorg.conf
[01:34] <mettallicat> Error opening terminal: gnome.
[01:34] <Toma-> anyone know what Timer Frequency is in the kernel options? ive got 100, 250 and 1000 mhz...
[01:34] <cwillu> rob138; your problem however will now be that resolv.conf gets overwritten by dhcpd everytime it renews the lease :)
[01:34] <mettallicat> i'm trying to do something by ssh
[01:34] <rob138> oh thats not good
[01:34] <rob138> heh
[01:34] <cwillu> lol
[01:34] <Nwallins> Toma-: watching that go down taught me about the perils of complacency
[01:34] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i know how to download it, i was just wondering if a package for it already exists on ubuntu, or if i need to compile it from source, and if i will be missing any more trivial packages after that...
[01:34] <silvaran> 100 = low latency, 1000 = high throughput, 250 = somewhere in between :)
[01:34] <brenner> is there a specific package that fixes the password flaw?  i'm on dialup and would like to try and minimise the amount od d/loading i need to do (updates are currently ~65mb)
[01:34] <rob138> is there a fix?
[01:34] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: w00t, i dont know that pop3 thing, but im sure there will be info in syslog or you need to do some configuratin
[01:34] <abhorsen> Just got a different error: LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
[01:35] <brenner> s/od/of
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[01:35] <mettallicat> i've tried forums but no solve for that
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138;  there's a line
[01:35] <Toma-> silvaran: i see. i just enabled preempt, so should i go the whole she-bang and go 100?
[01:35] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i just dont understand why these packages werent installed initially, you need those to compile pretty much anything...
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
[01:35] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm, I've just found the problem while grepping for popa3d in syslog... Bad file permissions... :( (sorry!)
[01:35] <rob138> that line is #'d
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; uncomment it and change 127.0.0.1 to your dns server
[01:35] <UNiXWHoRe> ubuntu is very nice and smooth, but its missing a LOT of key packages...
[01:35] <cwillu> yep, it'll override what the dhcp client passes you
[01:35] <bimberi> brenner: the updates to passwd and base-config are the ones
[01:36] <bluefoxicy> http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/  Is anyone else offered a free ipod nano?!
[01:36] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: syslog rocks :)
[01:36] <bluefoxicy> >:|
[01:36] <cwillu> then if-down eth0 and if-up eth0, and see if everything still works
[01:36] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure!
[01:36] <Wizz_kidd> why is it saying my mp3 files are not audio streams
[01:36] <rob138> cwillu, is there a better way to do that? (i am on wlan0 btw)
[01:36] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Which packages do you miss?
[01:36] <brenner> bimberi: thanks
[01:36] <cwillu> rob138; host archive.ubuntu.com should not give you any warnings
[01:36] <bimberi> brenner: np :)
[01:36] <cwillu> rob138; it doesn't replace the entry, it just adds the hard coded one in front
[01:36] <abhorsen> INTELIKEY, ARE YOU THERE?
[01:36] <cwillu> so if it can't find that dns server, it'll fail over to whichever the dhcp provides
[01:37] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe pardon my saying so, but you prove that you don't know by the question you just asked.   if apt-cache finds it it is a ubuntu package.  and the reason that 'not all devel' packages (any really) are installed is because the base install would be over 6g
[01:37] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: i get some crappy advert *updated his hosts file*
[01:37] <Knorrie> abhorsen: guess he's awake now :D
[01:37] <rob138> but what will happen in four days, when i am going to be on a different wireless router?
[01:37] <cwillu> rob138; it's better than my usual fix (using a static address :)
[01:37] <abhorsen> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
[01:37] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: you know about tail -f?
[01:37] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: it doesnt, and please stop being an ass
[01:37] <brenner> hehe
[01:37] <Knorrie> abhorsen: press caps lock please
[01:37] <bluefoxicy> Toma-:  doesn't that violate sf.net policy
[01:37] <abhorsen> Sorry
[01:38] <cwillu> rob138; you could try playing around with the network-locations stuff, but I haven't played with that before
[01:38] <bluefoxicy> toma also wtf anjuta 2.0 is awesome look at the screenshats.
[01:38] <cwillu> rob138; the prepend line shouldn't break other providers
[01:38] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure, that's a handy one!
[01:38] <Knorrie> abhorsen: nice :)
[01:38] <Wizz_kidd> what package do i need ot get my mp3 fiels to work
[01:38] <cwillu> it just uses it first if its available, otherwise it'll use the dhcp provded one
[01:38] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: they might have been hacked
[01:38] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Do you know about 'grep -v' :)
[01:38] <silvaran> !tell Wizz_kidd about mp3
[01:38] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: and these BASIC devel packages are installed by default with pretty much any linux distro ou there, and i havent see any go over 1.5/2 gig
[01:38] <intelikey> abhorsen you have build-essential installed ?
[01:38] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sure
[01:38] <abhorsen> Unless it came with Kubuntu, I dont have it.
[01:38] <rob138> cwillu, Oh okay, i gotcha, should i bother using wifi-radar?
[01:39] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: qt-devel and ncurses-devel
[01:39] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, That's another precious tool sometimes...
[01:39] <bluefoxicy> Toma-:  doubtful.
[01:39] <abhorsen> *Ubuntu*
[01:39] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: mp3 fiels?
[01:39] <intelikey> devel packages are default install in what distro ?
[01:39] <cwillu> rob138; sorry, I don't know anything about that
[01:39] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: well email them
[01:39] <cwillu> rob138; my laptop doesn't like ubuntu :)
[01:39] <Toma-> intelikey: sourcemage :D
[01:39] <Knorrie> intelikey: gentoo? :)
[01:39] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: any that lets you choose development packages
[01:39] <cwillu> (hardware problems that windows copes with better)
[01:39] <rob138> mine barely does
[01:39] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, I'm not sure, but have you added 'universe' and 'multiverse' to your '-src' entries in sources.list?
[01:39] <intelikey> lol Toma-
[01:40] <akcom> how would I restart inetd (I need to enable tftpd, which I just installed).  i tried /etc/init.d/inetd restart and it said inetd was not found
[01:40] <abhorsen> what is build-essential?
[01:40] <rob138> how do i turn on private messages in XIRC
[01:40] <akcom> abhorsen, it is used for compiling applications
[01:40] <nalioth> !info build-essental
[01:40] <intelikey> but "lets you choose" hardly qualifies as default anyway.
[01:40] <akcom> includes gcc, g++ etc
[01:40] <Kyral> abhorsen, the GCC compiler and its friends
[01:40] <cwillu> akcom;  try a locate inet to see where it might be
[01:40] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope, where is that sources.list?
[01:40] <cwillu> akcom;  locate inetd that is
[01:40] <abhorsen> does it come with ubuntu, or do I have to get it online?
[01:40] <abhorsen> Im such a noob
[01:40] <brenner> rob: you need to register with nickserv
[01:40] <mikebot> can someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..
[01:41] <rob138> i am registered...
[01:41] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Man... Many many thanks for the great help. Now I have got something to study, the whole sasl process... I just need to know what we just did! :o)
[01:41] <bimberi> abhorsen: build-essential is on the CD, just not installed by default
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: as i said before, stop being an ass, please
[01:41] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:41] <Knorrie> abhorsen: if possible *always* use official ubuntu packages
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i asked for help, not flames...
[01:41] <intelikey> abhorsen in a terminal type    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarriorL thanks m8
[01:41] <silvaran> mikebot: Make sure the options column of /etc/fstab has "ro,umask=0222" for your ntfs entry.
[01:41] <cwillu> rob138; can you see me?
[01:41] <brenner> rob138: is the person your pm'ing registered too?
[01:41] <MeetThaFocker> Hi, can anyone tell me how to fix the password problem in ubuntu Breezy?  There is a file that actually has the root password listed, should I delete the file or just delete the password entry?
[01:41] <silvaran> There he is!
[01:41] <mikebot> silvaran, i haven't edited fstab at all...do i need to do that?
[01:41] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i spend some hours to get this thing working, so i m happy i can help you
[01:42] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, You could try adding 'universe multiverse' right after 'main restricted' to your 'deb-src' entries and run 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'aptitude search packages-you-want'.
[01:42] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe if the little bit of light i gave caused flames  Stop hagnifying it.
[01:42] <silvaran> mikebot: TO keep the ro,umask=0222 settings between mounts, yes.
[01:42] <judgen> Where can i find the cool graphical tool for configuring ATI Remote wonder remotes found in distros like geekbox
[01:42] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I understand that feeling. ;)
[01:42] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sasl is not very well documented
[01:43] <wbarnes> can someone explain what purpose initrd serves
[01:43] <abhorsen> It is installing now
[01:43] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the postfix docs (also on www.postfix.org) are reallly good
[01:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, you were right when you sais it was complicated.
[01:43] <silvaran> wbarnes: It's a miniature filesystem-in-a-file to serve as a launchpad for booting the system.  abbreviation for "initial ramdisk"
[01:43] <bimberi> MeetThaFocker: a fix has been released if you are up to date with updates.  The fixed packages are base-config and passwd
[01:43] <abhorsen> In terminal, it says its done, what now?
[01:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Agreed. I just wanted to make sure I would install the whole thing in Ubuntu-way. :)
[01:44] <intelikey> wbarnes yes.  it provides the kernel with ext#fs support and you can not boot without it.
[01:44] <balu1> anyone here ever run a 3dfx voodoo card?
[01:44] <MeetThaFocker> bimberi Ok thanx
[01:44] <cafuego> Only a voodoo2
[01:44] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Keep in mind that sometimes package names aren't written like you'd expect. Make sure you try a few variations if you don't find them at the first time.
[01:44] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: please tell me why whenever someone asks for help in this so-called linux "community", hes called a newbie or flamed... i mean this is a fairly new linux distro, and i recompiled kernels countless times on RH, Slack, and Mandrake, i know how to do it, i just dont get why this distro seems so windows wannabe, hiding everything you need or want from linux..
[01:45] <mikebot> silvaran, i still can't access it
[01:45] <wbarnes> silvaran: why can't the kernel just boot directly.  both kernel and initrd are pointing to same device .... so it seems both should be able to access?
[01:45] <cafuego> if you have either of those, trash it and go buy a cheap nvidia card
[01:45] <cafuego> it'll 1) work and 2) be about 1000% faster
[01:45] <balu1> hmm nah.. any 3dfx voodoo3s??? (2000 if possible)
[01:45] <mikebot> silvaran, right now it is this in ftasb: /dev/hdb5       /media/f:ntfs     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,umask=0222        0       0
[01:45] <Protocol1> cafuego, holy cow voodoo cards are pretty old.....
[01:46] <cafuego> Protocol1: only a decade or so ;-)
[01:46] <Protocol1> i remember having one back in 97
[01:46] <NCLife> to get for example a realplayer movie to work, i need the w32codecs installed right? to install them is the guide given at wiki still up to date?
[01:46] <silvaran> wbarnes: It can... but to make things as general as possible, core drivers (for scsi, ide, etc.) are put in the initrd.  Then it grabs that initrd on bootup (using very simple disk access code), and loads whatever it needs from the initrd to access the rest of the system.  It's a conservative approach to the chicken-and-egg problem of needing a hard disk driver off a hard disk to access a hard disk :)
[01:46] <abhorsen> What now, it still wont install, and in terminal, I did what you said.
[01:47] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, The Ubuntu-way-of-life tries to get the best out of the abstraction layers the distro implements. This is vital for administration purposes.
[01:47] <Protocol1> so April 20th is the launch date for dapper?
[01:47] <dcode> I just bought this Intel SRCS28X serial ATA raid controller to drop in my ubuntu file server, and I found that the card doesn't fit in my PCI slot.  The card is PCI-X but backwards compatitable with 32-bit PCI
[01:47] <brenner> NCLife: w32codecs don't cover realmedia files iirc
[01:47] <rukuartic> !seen Seveas
[01:47] <ubotu> seveas is currently on #ubuntu+1 (49m 53s) #ubuntu-offtopic (49m 53s) #ubuntu (49m 53s)
[01:47] <ssam> Protocol1, yes, if its not delayed (we'll find out tomorrow)
[01:47] <dcode> my friend told me that it works in older PCI slots if you turn it around...is that true?
[01:47] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Slackware is great, and it's surely the best distro to do things 'by hand'. Ubuntu tries to abstract many things to make everything more scalable, upgradable, etc.
[01:47] <mikebot> hrm
[01:47] <mikebot> can someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..
[01:47] <dcode> I think it would fit
[01:48] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: at the cost of flexibility...
[01:48] <brenner> mikebot: weren't you having this problem yesterday?
[01:48] <Protocol1> ssam, i see
[01:48] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe i can't answer that.  i neither coded nor packaged any part of ubuntu,  i agree completely that it is a windows wanabeee   the answer i got on that was that it is made for the windows users first step into linux.   as to being called .... or flamed    if you stop wareing your feelings on your shirt sleve, people wont destrub them near as much.
[01:48] <Protocol1> cool
[01:48] <mikebot> brenner, yeah, it was never resolved
[01:48] <ssam> Protocol1, mark shuttleworth has suggested a 6week delay to get everything highly polished
[01:48] <brenner> mikebot: pastebin /etc/fstab
[01:48] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, It's not 'Windows-like' though, since it keeps everything open and it's not so difficult to understand how things work.
[01:48] <mikebot> brenner, okay
[01:48] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, as a newbie that i am, how would u compare ubuntu with say, Mandriva? I have both distros installed now.  Which is more "newb friendly?"  Mandrivia seems to be slightly moreso to me
[01:48] <mikebot> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:48] <Protocol1> ssam, thats ok.....the more stable the better
[01:48] <silvaran> Shoot what's the name of that vnc viewer for gnome?  vino or something?
[01:48] <NCLife> brenner, uh. is it impossible to watch them on ubuntu then?
[01:49] <abhorsen> Is this the last thing that is supposed to be displayed? Setting up build-essential (11.1) ...
[01:49] <rukuartic> Does anyone know about #shadowserver and SoBe-?
[01:49] <mikebot> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10152
[01:49] <ssam> Protocol1, indeed, and the adventurous can help do the final testing, there shouldnt be any serious bugs left by april
[01:49] <intelikey> abhorsen yeah
[01:49] <shiv> how do I know which version of gnome do I have?
[01:49] <dcode> can someone help me?  Is it possible to get a PCI-X card into a PCI slot by turning it around?
[01:49] <dcode> (and it works)
[01:49] <shiv> I got it
[01:49] <brenner> NCLife: no.  you just need to install realplayer
[01:49] <Protocol1> yeah
[01:49] <abhorsen> then now what do I do?
[01:49] <rukuartic> dcode: Probably a bad idea :P
[01:49] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: I still wish a future release would include development packages, maybe not install them by default, but at least include them...
[01:49] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, I think everybody has a distro that fits best their needs and that's a very personal choice. I haven't tried Mandriva yet, so I couldn't try to comment on it. But I really think Ubuntu is a great distro for beginners, all of my family (all ages) use it at home.
[01:50] <dcode> :-(
[01:50] <Knorrie> rukuartic: sounds like botnets and so
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, now here's the thing...it's hdb5 that i can't access..and yesterday it worked, but i wanted to change the name from hdb5 to f:ntfs, so i unmounted it from hdb5 and mounted it on f:ntfs
[01:50] <brenner> NCLife: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:50] <Toma-> if i build a kernel for k8, will i break my 32-bit system?
[01:50] <dcode> why doesn't anything ever work out for me :'-(
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, and now it says i can't access it
[01:50] <UNiXWHoRe> I mean, its pretty complete, but it's not linux if its not customizable...
[01:50] <rukuartic> Knorrie: Yea... Can you answer a few questions for me? No, its not about getting back :P
[01:50] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, So you couldn't find the packages even after adding 'universe multiverse'?
[01:50] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, Well I suggest trying Mandriva.  I really like it, and it gives you the choice of Gnomne or KDE or Xfce or others
[01:50] <NCLife> brenner, okay. So, ill install the w32codecs anyway in case i need them later. Is the faq provided at the wiki reliable?
[01:50] <dcode> thnx rukuartic
[01:50] <brenner> mikebot: did you create /media/f:ntfs ?
[01:50] <engla> with gnome/metacity, is there a way to create a "temporary workspace" on-the-go.. like you press some magic combo and you make a fifth workspace, even if you use 4 by default
[01:50] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: didnt check yet, just added it, was busy talking... :)
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, yeah
[01:51] <brenner> NCLife: yes.  it's the official wiki
[01:51] <silvaran> UNiXWHoRe: apt-cache stats... I've almost 24,000 packages available.
[01:51] <engla> I don't want it to stay until next login
[01:51] <abhorsen> intelikey: what do I do next?
[01:51] <mikebot> brenner, and when i mounted it on that, i got the fodler on my desktop..but when i try to open it i get the error:
[01:51] <NCLife> brenner, thanks!
[01:51] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Ubuntu also gives you that choice. You can easily get a complete KDE or Xfce solution by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' or 'xubuntu-desktop'.
[01:51] <intelikey> try what ever you were trying that brought us to that point,  again    abhorsen  :)
[01:51] <mikebot> brenner, The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "f:ntfs".
[01:51] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, yeah but I am on dial-up and am not downloading KDE, which is probably 100 or more MBs
[01:52] <abhorsen> I did, no change, unfortunatly
[01:52] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Please try it, I'm almost sure you'll find them! :)
[01:52] <Knorrie> rukuartic: i read some article about an irc conversation with a teenager involved in running botnets some days ago
[01:52] <Wizz_kidd> how do you install .deb again :P
[01:52] <UNiXWHoRe> okay synaptic is downloading new package info now...
[01:52] <MeetThaFocker> Of course, I do have KDE 3.5 on a DVD but have no idea how to compile and install it
[01:52] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:52] <brenner> mikebot: well, the fstab options are ok
[01:52] <Wizz_kidd> thanks again :p
[01:52] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: seems to work, thanks again man...
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <MeetThaFocker> Mandriva comes with KDE and Gnome on the CD
[01:52] <brenner> mikebot: do you get that when you dbl-click on the icon?
[01:52] <shiv> how do i upgrade to gnome 2.14? is it advisable?
[01:52] <fiendskull9> hello
[01:52] <mikebot> brenner, yes
[01:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell abhorsen about paste
[01:52] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim located?
[01:53] <nalioth> shiv: join #ubuntu+1 to discuss gnome 2.14
[01:53] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Got it. I must admit I only switched to Ubuntu after getting my ADSL connection. Before that I had to compile my winmodem drivers by hand and used Slackware. But you can also get the Kubuntu CD, which provides KDE.
[01:53] <Toma-> Ive got a 64-bit cpu on a 32bit system, if i build a kernel with K8/64bit processor family, will it break my 32bit system?
[01:53] <abhorsen> sorry, wont happen again
[01:53] <MeetThaFocker> Man its been years since I have been on IRC, this is the first channel I came to tonight that people were actually TALKING
[01:53] <intelikey> abhorsen one line pastes are tolerated very well here    but do not flood.
[01:53] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, No problem, man!
[01:53] <abhorsen> like I said, wont happen again
[01:53] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim?
[01:54] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, I am on dial-up and 14.4K at that.  Why? because I am not paying Linuxant.com for the "full version" of my drivers...I wish I could find a hack.
[01:54] <engla> MeetThaFocker: you'll find that there is too much talk here, it moves too fast
[01:54] <bimberi> engla: not that i know of, but you add more new workspaces by right-clicking on the switcher applet and selecting Preferences, Number of Workspaces
[01:54] <fiendskull9> please send answer to my question through pm
[01:54] <silvaran> MeetThaFocker: Same here, I just joined yesterday after a 5-6 year hiatus :)
[01:54] <fiendskull9> agaqin
[01:54] <fiendskull9> q is
[01:54] <abhorsen> what now, intelikey?
[01:54] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: why not? did linux cost too much to buy? :)
[01:54] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim located?
[01:54] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Have you tried the Smartlink drivers? Those were the best drivers I could find when I had to struggle with my now-disabled winmodem!
[01:54] <engla> bimberi: of course. I'd like a solution with some flow.. guess I need a cooler wm than metacity for that
[01:54] <brenner> mikebot: can you access it thru terminal?
[01:54] <^Odd^> whats the command to set up lm-sensors for the first time?
[01:54] <intelikey> abhorsen what do you mean what now ?   i didn't see any error message ?
[01:55] <NCLife> mh, got another question. Im experiencing jerky dvd playback. I've already enabled the DMA transfer, is there another thing i could do to avoid this?
[01:55] <silvaran> fiendskull9: dpkg -L gaim will list files.
[01:55] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, no I have not, do they work with Conexant HCF winmodems?
[01:55] <bimberi> engla: kk
[01:55] <engla> Still for me, it's dissapointing that workspaces in os x > workspaces in gnome
[01:55] <bpuccio> what's do I have to delete in .evolution to get rid of the IMAP cache, but not clobber all my settings, filters, etc?
[01:55] <abhorsen> It was the same error message
[01:55] <mikebot> brenner, do i just cd /media/f:ntfs?
[01:55] <intelikey> abhorsen notice     warning != error
[01:55] <brenner> mikebot: yes
[01:55] <UNiXWHoRe> hehehe
[01:55] <abhorsen> LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:55] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, I don't agree with forcing people to pay for hardware they ALREADY own.  that's what linuxant does.
[01:55] <OmegaAlpha> hello all, i was wondering is someone knew of a data recovery program to use from a partition screwup
[01:56] <intelikey> abhorsen that is a warning, not an error.
[01:56] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: theyre giving you support for a devious peice of hardware. reverse engineering something like a winmodem is no easy task. throwing them a little bit of money isnt evil.
[01:56] <abhorsen> then what does it mean, it still isnt installed, is it?
[01:56] <mikebot> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10153
[01:57] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, yeah but if there is an alternative to their driver, I will gladly resist giving up my money.
[01:57] <silvaran> Toma-: I suspect it's more of a personal preference than an ethical dilemma... paying one company to make up for another company's shortcomings.
[01:57] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, That's one of the modems I have had in the past and I can't remember it right, but I think it's worth a try!
[01:57] <^Odd^> anyone know what the configure command to set up lm-sensors
[01:57] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, have a link?
[01:57] <intelikey> abhorsen it's telling you that that function is not going to be used.     i have no idea what the function will or wont do but the program should work.
[01:57] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Just a minute and I'll see if I can find some useful information from my past experiences!
[01:58] <Toma-> hmm k. anyway, who would wanna support linux anyway.
[01:58] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, I would think designing and developing KDE is no easy task, yet I don't see them setting up a paypal account on their website
[01:58] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: they still make a pretty penny.
[01:58] <intelikey> abhorsen in linux   no error    generally means  no error.
[01:59] <abhorsen> well, The program has not launched, is there something i have to do to make the program RUN?
[01:59] <abhorsen> Im sorry, Im used to the windows point and click
[01:59] <intelikey> abhorsen probably  what program are you installing there ?
[01:59] <mikebot> brenner, any idea?
[01:59] <seren> anyone know when flight-5 kubuntu iso will be released?
[02:00] <blrich> can anyone help? having trouble starting kde because of ICE/DCOP not working. there's something wrong with my host. I can't even sudo on the command line, because it says 'cannot lookup <myhostname> - loclahost via gethostbyname()'
[02:00] <abhorsen> it is just a game, but Ive been having problems installing a number of programs.
[02:00] <abhorsen> it is called second life
[02:00] <brenner> mikebot: ls -l /media | grep ntfs
[02:00] <intelikey> abhorsen and did you follow the instruvtions provided by it's author ?
[02:00] <mikebot> brenner, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 f:ntfs
[02:01] <blrich> my host seems to be r00ted but this is all after a bad reset, so i don't know what could have happened.
[02:01] <techrush> not to but in here as im not all that familiar with your problem abhorsen but i believe second life for linux is still in alpha stages
[02:01] <nickrud> blrich, your hostname doesn't match what's in /etc/hosts ; type  hostname && cat /etc/hostname | head -1
[02:01] <abhorsen> It is, but Ive had errors and problems with a number of programs, such ass WINE and others
[02:01] <intelikey> abhorsen if it was a source package (file.tar.gz)  look for any files in the unpacked directory that are all caps.   README  INSTALL ...
[02:02] <brenner> mikebot: you should be able to read it.  i don't know to be honest.  you stumped me.
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> bleh
[02:02] <UltimateWarrior> Does anyone know if the '/notice' irc command is client or server based?
[02:02] <Toma-> hmmm. do i need to build this kernel with initrd or no initrd? that is the question...
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: doesnt work
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> apt-cache stats still gives me only about 1500 packages
[02:02] <mikebot> brenner, heh okay
[02:02] <brenner> could someone help mikebot access his ntfs partition?  his ftsab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10152.  his error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10153
[02:02] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Damn, I wanted to leave a note for MeetThaFocker
[02:03] <mikebot> brenner, ah thank oyu
[02:03] <blrich> nickrud: it comes out as richcorp localhost richcorp
[02:03] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: mind sending me a copy of your sources.list?
[02:03] <nickrud> blrich, how about pasting just the first line of /etc/hosts
[02:03] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: im starting to think it might be broken
[02:03] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Just a second!
[02:03] <FlannelKing> UltimateWarrior: you can leave him a message via MemoServ
[02:03] <Toma-> UNiXWHoRe: what are you looking for?
[02:03] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Does anyone know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:04] <UltimateWarrior> FlannelKing, Hmmm... Thanks!
[02:04] <abhorsen> forget second life.  I need help installing WINE
[02:04] <UNiXWHoRe> Toma-: ncurses-devel and qt-devel
[02:04] <blrich> nickrud: the thing was, this problem was happening before when my /etc/hosts was 127.0.0.1 loclahost, 127.0.1.1 richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp. so i got rid of the second entry, fixed things up, this is still happening tho
[02:04] <abhorsen> Can you help me with that?
[02:04] <Toma-> djs_2_6: acidrip does it for me
[02:04] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Please pvt msg me.
[02:04] <Toma-> UNiXWHoRe: i just installed "ncurses-dev"
[02:04] <Toma-> for qt, i imagine its qt-dev
[02:04] <djs_2_6> Toma- - Does that work with already ripped dvd files?
[02:04] <Toma-> djs_2_6: nope
[02:04] <mwe> how can you know what package a specific file belongs to?
[02:05] <Toma-> djs_2_6: like, vobs?
[02:05] <UNiXWHoRe> Toma-: except synaptic or apt doesnt find it...
[02:05] <djs_2_6> Toma- - Yep
[02:05] <Toma-> quirky
[02:05] <nickrud> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp <--- make it look something like that blrich
[02:05] <Toma-> !info ncurses-dev
[02:05] <Toma-> whaaat
[02:05] <nickrud> info libncurses5-dev
[02:05] <nickrud> 1info libncurses5-dev
[02:05] <Unity> lol
[02:05] <brenner> mikebot: you *could* try and change the fstab option to just: umask=0222
[02:05] <Toma-> !info libncurses-dev
[02:05] <nickrud> !info libncurses5-dev
[02:06] <Unity> you ok there nickrud ?
[02:06] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1218 kB, Installed size: 5656 kB
[02:06] <brenner> mikebot: that's what the starter guide in the help menu says to use
[02:06] <Toma-> ahh :/ thx nickrud
[02:06] <bimberi> hoo-ray!
[02:06] <nickrud> I dropped my cigarette, and paniced
[02:06] <mikebot> brenner, okay, i'll try that
[02:06] <Toma-> ahh well
[02:06] <Toma-> bbl
[02:06] <^Odd^> so does anyone know what the command to configure lm-sensors is?
[02:07] <Kyral> sensors-detect
[02:07] <mikebot> brenner, so tak away fmask and dmask?
[02:07] <Toma-> ^Odd^: sensors-detect
[02:07] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:07] <beppe> salve a tutte......sono nuovo....ma credo di essere nel posto sbagliato
[02:07] <noce_br> !it
[02:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:07] <abhorsen> can you help me install WINE intelikey?  You have been very helpful so far
[02:07] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: crap, server doesnt accept privates unless registered
[02:07] <Toma-> djs_2_6: anything that uses mencoder will do
[02:08] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Damn!
[02:08] <mikebot> brenner, same error...it may have somethign to do witht he fact that i partioned this in windows using partition magic?
[02:08] <beppe> ok....... sorry........
[02:08] <intelikey> abhorsen sudo apt-get install wine
[02:08] <tomypreach> hi all -
[02:08] <noce_br> djs_2_6: try dvdrip for ripping dvds into avis
[02:08] <brenner> mikebot: everything except umask=0222
[02:08] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Let's see what happens if I...
[02:08] <intelikey> abhorsen it's in the repos
[02:08] <tomypreach> i need a divx player ? do any of you know a good one ?
[02:08] <raph> vlc
[02:08] <djs_2_6> noce_br - Thanks, but I already have some ripped dvds that I need to convert...
[02:08] <mikebot> brenner, ah okay
[02:09] <noce_br> djs_2_6: ripped into what? .vob files?
[02:09] <bimberi> !tell abhorsen about wine
[02:09] <djs_2_6> noce_br - Yep
[02:09] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: ill try and ctcp you my e-mail adress, hold on...
[02:09] <tomypreach> is there an installer for it ? :-(
[02:09] <mikebot> brenner, same error...all i'm doing is saving fstab then trying to open it again--i don't have to restart or anything, right?
[02:09] <blrich> nickrud: should i do the same for the second line with the 192.168.0.2 ip?
[02:09] <tomypreach> hey mike
[02:09] <brenner> mikebot: you have to remount!
[02:09] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, I'm trying to DCC chat you... Did you get any request?
[02:09] <brenner> mikebot: sudo mount -a
[02:09] <UNiXWHoRe> got it?
[02:10] <intelikey> abhorsen  wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     wine-utils - Windows Emulator (Utilities)     wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     winesetuptk - Windows Emulator (Configuration and Setup Tool)   <--- they are all in the repos.
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, nope. :(
[02:10] <PuppiesOnAcid> The proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> bleh
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Do you have ICQ?
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, ahhh
[02:10] <tomypreach> bababooey ?
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, okay, let me try
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope, msn
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> ironic, isnt it?
[02:10] <sadok> wassup?
[02:10] <nickrud> blrich, I don't know, I've just seen your error before. I run from real network problems
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> lol
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Hmmm... Yahoo! Messenger? :)
[02:10] <Wizz_kidd> wtf lol my bad one more time someone ........how do you install .deb packages my comp restarting
[02:10] <sadok> dude ubuntu is awsome
[02:10] <blrich> nickrud: as do i
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, same thing
[02:10] <sadok> ubuntu rules!!!
[02:11] <blrich> nickrud: oh well thanks for your help =)
[02:11] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Sorry, I don't have an MSM account... (and proud of it! :D )
[02:11] <tomypreach> What do i do - if i wanna install vlc ?
[02:11] <brenner> mikebot: damn
[02:11] <bimberi> UNiXWHoRe, UltimateWarrior: just make your own channel - /j #unixwarrior (or the like)
[02:11] <raph> apt-get install vlc
[02:11] <sadok> i wanna get red hat though
[02:11] <tomypreach> okey
[02:11] <nickrud> blrich, make that change to /etc/hosts, it'll fix the sudo problem. You may need to boot into recovery mode, if sudo's broken
[02:11] <intelikey> abhorsen   man apt-cache       apt-cache  is your friend.
[02:11] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: yeah join me on privatetest
[02:11] <UltimateWarrior> bimberi, LOL!! :D
[02:11] <mikebot> brenner, =/
[02:11] <bimberi> :P
[02:12] <vars> blender rocks you should check it out
[02:12] <brenner> mikebot: what about the script found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:12] <abhorsen> ok thanks for the help!!!
[02:12] <mikebot> brenner, i'll install it, one second
[02:12] <svu> what is the correct way to enable automatical beagle startup on ubuntu? just putting beagled into the session?
[02:12] <bimberi> UltimateWarrior, UNiXWHoRe: I did think that was better than #ultimatewhore :P
[02:13] <PuppiesOnAcid> The proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?
[02:13] <intelikey> brenner mikebot not to but in but you should comment out the lines in fstab that pretain to ntfs before running that script.
[02:13] <nickrud> mikebot, brenner mount -a doesn't remount ; umount the disk directly then remount to test
[02:13] <shiftoi> damn, i can't find any player to read my ape tags properly
[02:13] <brenner> intelikey, nickrud : thanks guys
[02:13] <vars> shiftoi, what is an ape tag?
[02:13] <UltimateWarrior> bimberi, ROTFLMAO!!
[02:13] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:14] <vars> mplayer
[02:14] <balu1> anyone ever get a 3dfx voodoo3 direct rendering to work?
[02:14] <djs_2_6> tritium - I linke your Sn.  Any particular reason?
[02:14] <nickrud> balu1, sure did
[02:14] <shiftoi> ape is the tagging format for monkeys audio files, and a few other formats
[02:14] <enyc> meep
[02:14] <balu1> nickrud: NO WAY NICK
[02:14] <brenner> nickrud: gee, the help menu entry is misleading then: "How do I remount /etc/fstab without rebooting? sudo mount -a"
[02:14] <balu1> nickrud: please share your heavenly knowledge.
[02:14] <tritium> djs_2_6: thanks.  A few reasons, one of which is I'm from Albuquerque, and our baseball team (from the Simpsons) is the Isotopes.
[02:15] <mikebot> okay so wait, what should i do
[02:15] <mikebot> i'm going to change that ntfs back to umask, then unmount and mount it
[02:15] <djs_2_6> tritium - Ah.  I always was fascinated with the experiments that scientists had been trying with Deuterium and Tritium...
[02:16] <tritium> djs_2_6: agreed
[02:16] <brenner> nickrud: do you want to take over? :)
[02:16] <nickrud> brenner, from the man page: -a     Mount all filesystems (of the given types) mentioned in fstab.
[02:16] <balu1> djs_2_6: u like fusion/fission concepts huh?
[02:16] <Protocol1> is the a way I can get win32 codecs onto mplayer?
[02:16] <UltimateWarrior> Ok, great people... Gotta plat at least one 'coin' of WWF Superstars on xmame before going to bed! :D See ya!
[02:16] <bimberi> :)
[02:16] <Protocol1> or for it?
[02:16] <tritium> bimberi: :)
[02:16] <nickrud> balu1, I wrote it up, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Vodoo3doesnotdo3D
[02:16] <balu1> nickrud: um ;x that didnt work for me?
[02:16] <djs_2_6> balu1 - Yeah, for what my little brain can comprehend of them...
[02:17] <nickrud> balu1, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a pastebin for me
[02:17] <balu1> nickrud: xserver just dosnt start up on the voodoo.conf.accel
[02:17] <brenner> mikebot: what options line are you going back to?
[02:17] <balu1> nickrud: k will do.
[02:17] <balu1> !pastebin
[02:17] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:17] <mike_> i just  got linux and i need to know a audio plugin to play audio files
[02:17] <mikebot> brenner, umask=0222
[02:17] <tomypreach> hmm - cant install it - damn
[02:17] <UNiXWHoRe> bimberi: ROFL
[02:17] <brenner> mikebot: didn't you try that already?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> mike_: Specifically?
[02:18] <mike_> well mp3 files
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: tell mike_ about mp3
[02:18] <insidious|zzz> so what time is the discussion tomorrow?
[02:18] <mikebot> brenner, but they said that that i can't just do mount -a, but have to unmount then remount
[02:18] <nickrud> brenner, mount -o remount /dev/hda5  is remounting (I did have to look it up again ;)
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> mike_: The link from ubotu should get you started.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Oops.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell mike about mp3
[02:19] <Toma-> mike_: xmms will play mp3's and look good doing it
[02:19] <mike_> ok thx
[02:19] <brenner> mikebot: ah, ok.  then yeah, follow nickrud's syntax
[02:19] <nickrud> except I got hda5 there , a typo
[02:19] <mikebot> nickrud, brenner, okay, i can open the ntfs now, except it doesn't display any of the files
[02:19] <mikebot> brenner, nickrud, this is with only the umask=0222 line
[02:20] <brenner> nickrud: hence the "follow his syntax", not "use the command" ;)
[02:20] <engla> I wonder... what is gam_server? Is beagled running that?
[02:20] <nickrud> mike-e, ls /media/f:ntfs -d , what permissions
[02:20] <mikebot> nickrud, it displayed this: /media/f:ntfs
[02:20] <nickrud> engla, that's what gnome uses to watch for general file changes, it's how nautilus knows to refresh it's windows
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of a gui frontend to ntfsresize?
[02:20] <brenner> mikebot: you did use /dev/hdb5 right?
[02:20] <mikebot> brenner, yeah
[02:21] <mikebot> brenner, hehe
[02:21] <nickrud> mikebot, sorry, ls -l /media/f:ntfs -d
[02:21] <brenner> ok, just asking :)
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I always kind of wondered how it did that...it's just so cool that way.
[02:21] <mikebot> nickrud, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 /media/f:ntfs
[02:21] <antisocial_boris> what's this i hear about any user being able to find the first registered user's password?
[02:22] <Unity> !installerbug
[02:22] <ubotu> A fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.
[02:22] <nickrud> mike-e, you still haven't got the access right. cd / && umount /media/hdb5 && ls /media/hdb5 -ld
[02:22] <brenner> tonyyarusso: can't the parted utilities do that?
[02:22] <engla> nickrud: you sure? I've never seen it running like it does now.. grabbing lots of memory
[02:22] <lull> antisocial_boris: i suppose we know the answer to the age old question "got root?"
[02:22] <jean> whats a gmail fs?
[02:22] <engla> nickrud: how do I find out what the "parent" of this process is?
[02:22] <nickrud> engla, yeah, it screws up sometimes, just type killall gam_server in a terminal, it'll reset
[02:22] <balu1> Nickrud:  This is my noaccel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10155        ::::: and This is my ACCEL  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10154
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Not to my knowledge anyway.  They make some overtures like they're thinking about it, but don't quite pull through.  G anway, maybe QT works?...
[02:23] <lull> engla: `pstree` is a neat display of the process hierarchy.
[02:23] <engla> nickrud: hehe okay. I love that kind of robustness
[02:23] <engla> lull: ooh. New command to me, great, I love good commands
[02:23] <blrich> can someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start
[02:23] <mikebot> nickrud, after unmounting: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-02-27 13:17 /media/hdb5
[02:23] <blrich> i'm in a major bind
[02:23] <brenner> tonyyarusso: dunno.  just a stab
[02:24] <nickrud> mikebot, then put your current fstab up again :)
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Wait, maybe it just requires the suggested package, let me check something.
[02:24] <mike_> whats the universal codec for playing audio files
[02:24] <lull> antisocial_boris: it's not letting me PM you.
[02:24] <mikebot> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:24] <engla> lull: sadly most of the applications are started by "initng", that doesn't give that much information. Neat command anyway
[02:24] <mikebot> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10157
[02:24] <engla> nickrud: thanks
[02:24] <balu1> nickrud:  ps , when i ran the reconfigure xserver, i had to enter alot of stuff manually.. so i may have mssed up there..: x
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> hfs is mac's filesystem, right?
[02:25] <lull> tonyyarusso: yup
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> 'k.
[02:25] <blrich> can someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start
[02:25] <bimberi> jean: lets you use your dmail account as a filesystem
[02:25] <mike_> wats the universal codec for playing music files
[02:25] <bimberi> *gmail
[02:25] <lull> blrich: did you try running dexconf ?
[02:25] <Wizz_kidd> how do i install .debs ??????
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> whats the terminal command ?
[02:26] <bimberi> !deb
[02:26] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:26] <engla> mike_: there is no universial codec. But there are some packages that keep track of mostly all of them
[02:26] <brenner> mike_: there isn't a codec for everything.
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> thanks
[02:26] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: what are you installing?
[02:26] <mike_> i just need one for common audio files like mp3
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> Opera
[02:26] <bimberi> Wizz_kidd: np
[02:26] <LinuxJones> blrich: delete the .iceauthority file using sudo and then re-login
[02:26] <jean> bimberi: did u try it?
[02:26] <blrich> lull: no whats that?
[02:26] <nickrud> mikebot, try the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10158
[02:26] <brenner> mike_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <jean> !tell gmailfs
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones: did that, hasn't worked
[02:27] <mikebot> nickrud, so mount hdb5 again?
[02:27] <nickrud> mikebot, yes.
[02:27] <bimberi> jean: no i haven't, nice idea, not sure about the privacy though
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones lull I also can't sudo because it says it can't lookup my host
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> brenner: That did it.  I just didn't have the extra part because it was suggested and not a dependancy.
[02:27] <LinuxJones> blrich: you re-started the login manager after deleting the file ?
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones: lull but i haven't changed the /etc/hosts file
[02:27] <brenner> mikebot: lol. waasn't that your original fstab?
[02:27] <nickrud> balu1, still looking :)
[02:27] <nickrud> a good one :)
[02:27] <balu1> nickrud: ya dont worry :) take ur time.. ill occupy myself with super mario world
[02:27] <engla> mike_: for mp3, it's "gstreamer0.8-mad" but you could just get all of "gstreamer0.8-plugins" and "gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"
[02:28] <blrich> LinuxJones: yep, del'd everything, del'd the .DCOPserver files, del'd .kde/tmp* and socket* and so on, del'd /tmp/*
[02:28] <blrich> LinuxJones: nothing seems to work
[02:28] <_jason> blrich: pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[02:28] <brenner> tonyyarusso: so qtparted works?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> blrich: do it from a virtual terminal (ie ctrl + alt + F3) once you delete the file /etc/init.d/gdm restart then login normally
[02:28] <blrich> _jason: can i msg them to you? they're only 2 lines
[02:28] <Salah> does 3D work with Intel graphic chipsets in Ubuntu?
[02:28] <mikebot> brenner, i don't know hehe
[02:28] <_jason> blrich: just paste it here then
[02:28] <blrich> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[02:29] <zyth> Salah, only Mesa, not accelerated
[02:29] <blrich> 127.0.1.1 richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Yep; gparted too.
[02:29] <mikebot> nickrud, is it: sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/f:ntfs
[02:29] <Salah> zyth, what's the different?
[02:29] <zyth> Salah, mesa = all done in software = slow
[02:29] <trans_err> Is there any simple way to get faad (mp4) support into gstreamer0.10 (ie. in dapper)
[02:29] <nickrud> mikebot, since it's in the fstab, all you need is sudo mount /dev/hdb5
[02:29] <_jason> blrich: the first one is hostname I assume?
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, okay
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> What's the newest kernel for Breezy?
[02:30] <blrich> _jason: yep
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, ahhhhhhh
[02:30] <engla> mike_: tell us if it works or not later
[02:30] <Salah> zyth, how much is the difference between mesa and accelerated? :)
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, brenner, works thanks a bunch
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, thanks
[02:30] <brenner> nickrud: afaict, that was his original fstab.  why can he access the part. now and couldn't before?
[02:30] <_jason> blrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '/home/jasonr/docs/school/cse398/hw2.pdf
[02:30] <blrich> _jason: i'm worried i might have mangled some file iceauth or dcop uses, there was a bad reset and then this trouble started
[02:30] <nickrud> mikebot, if that fails , I have one last suggestion, which I"m gonna make anyway: get rid of the name f:ntfs, I can see that : touching off silly bugs
[02:30] <_jason> blrich: one sec, that was a typo :)
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, nono it works
[02:31] <brenner> well, actually, the original had an extra tab
[02:31] <mikebot> nickrud, thank you
[02:31] <nickrud> mikebot, somewhere else, somewhere
[02:31] <HymnToLife> question : how do I restart the network without rebooting ?
[02:31] <mikebot> nickrud, sorry?
[02:31] <_jason> blrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp'.  That's what mine look like.  That should let you use sudo at least
[02:31] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:31] <LinuxJones> blrich: the .iceauthority file will be re-created when you login to your system
[02:31] <zyth> Salah, let's just say, i wouldn't try playing any games ;)
[02:31] <HymnToLife> djs_2_6> avidemux
[02:31] <blrich> _jason: why not richcorp.localhost richcorp localhost?
[02:32] <nickrud> mikebot, I know it's a legal character for a directory name, but I cringe on some of the programming errors that will kick out
[02:32] <_jason> blrich: sure that will work too I suppose
[02:32] <mikebot> nickrud, even though it's working?
[02:32] <LinuxJones> djs_2_6: dvdrip or theoggen (but thoggen rips to .ogg and is painfully slow)
[02:32] <nickrud> mikebot, I'm talking about other programs using that dir, not the mounting of it.
[02:32] <mikebot> nickrud, ah okay...do i just edit fstab, then unmount and mount it?
[02:32] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones oh my *god* found problem - in my /etc/hostname i have richcorp<new line>localhost
[02:33] <nickrud> mikebot, that name is what caught my attention in the first place, and yes.
[02:33] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones so that explains that
[02:33] <LinuxJones> blrich: heh
[02:33] <mikebot> nickrud, okay..can i ask you one more question?
[02:33] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones thanks for your help, rebooting and fixing it now =P
[02:33] <zyth> Salah, is your system a notebook or a desktip?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> blrich: how did that happen ?
[02:33] <grout58> nickrud what was that command to mount the ext3?
[02:33] <nickrud> grout58, I was helping him with getting an ntfs partition readable by all
[02:33] <jmoncayo> what should i do so instead of typing 192.168.0.1 i only type for example linuxbox2
[02:33] <blrich> LinuxJones: my senile 54yo developer father stuffed it up on his new kubuntu system and i've been trying to fix it for an hour
[02:34] <flodine> anyone use mtail for there log files?
[02:34] <LinuxJones> blrich: haha
[02:34] <grout58> whats the command to mount hdb1?
[02:34] <blrich> LinuxJones: that would explain why the prompt always came up as user@richcorp<nl>localhost$
[02:34] <V4Vendetta> sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[02:34] <V4Vendetta> how do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?
[02:35] <LinuxJones> blrich: yeah your not from the Netherlands :)
[02:35] <mikebot> nickrud, for an ext3 partition, what are the options in fstab/
[02:35] <blrich> grout58: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/<dir you want to mount it in>
[02:35] <nickrud> balu1, now, would you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log error from the acell
[02:35] <themachine> where can I configure programs for start-up?
[02:35] <ph1qt10n> i need to restore the GDM
[02:35] <blrich> LinuxJones: no <nl> = \n  newline i mean
[02:35] <ph1qt10n> im getting the ugly blue KDE KDM
[02:35] <nickrud> mikebot, pretty much all the same, except for the fmask & dmask
[02:35] <_jason> themachine: system > prefs > sessions > startup
[02:35] <Salah> zyth, my system is a notebook :)
[02:35] <jbeagley> How do I change the properties of my USB drive so users other than root can use it?
[02:35] <grout58> says cant find hdb1 in fstab or mtab
[02:35] <balu1> nickrud :x um.. how do i know its from my accel?
[02:35] <jmoncayo> what permission should I give to a *.jpg file so i can opened from the internet in my apache web server
[02:35] <mikebot> nickrud, just take those out?
[02:35] <LinuxJones> themachine: system > preferences > sessions > startup programs
[02:35] <zyth> Salah, ahh, no chance to upgrade the graphics then :(
[02:35] <V4Vendetta> jbeagley, sudo chmod 777 /mnt/point
[02:35] <LinuxJones> blrich: yeah I know that was a lame attempt at humour :P
[02:36] <Eleaf> Does anybody know of any dns servers?
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> how do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?
[02:36] <blrich> LinuxJones: =P
[02:36] <zyth> 777? is that necessary? :P
[02:36] <Eleaf> V4Vendetta, try opening the file I guess?
[02:36] <nickrud> balu1, copy over the acell to x.org, then restart X. when it fails, save /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and send me that
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, what file is it?
[02:36] <Eleaf> uhh
[02:36] <Eleaf> /var/log/something...
[02:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell V4Vendetta about installerbug
[02:36] <Eleaf> I forgot it, somebody else here probably knows
[02:36] <Eleaf> yea thanks ;p
[02:36] <Drakeson> !visible password
[02:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Drakeson
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, 68.87.75.194
[02:37] <grout58> is there a command where i can see all hd's in my comp even if there not monuted?
[02:37] <Eleaf> V4Vendetta, which one is that?
[02:37] <_jason> !installerbug
[02:37] <ubotu> A fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, comcast
[02:37] <Eleaf> mmk
[02:37] <nickrud> mikebot, nah, those defaults are pretty much vetted
[02:37] <balu1> nickrud: sorry.. how would i save the log?
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> so
[02:37] <nekostar> hey
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> just changing my password fixes it?
[02:37] <Salah> zyth, anyways, thanks :) the nvidia drivers are better supported ;)
[02:37] <nekostar> k3b keeps complaining that it cant close dvd tray for verification on burns
[02:38] <nekostar> any clues as to what is REALLY going on?
[02:38] <brenner> grout58: you need to mount them to see them
[02:38] <MaRk182> hi guys
[02:38] <nickrud> balu1, just cp it to your home dir
[02:38] <mikebot> nickrud, sorry?
[02:38] <MaRk182> im having some problems with the nic
[02:38] <grout58> how do i find the name of the second drive?
[02:38] <Drakeson> has anybody decided how to handle the installer bug crisis? (or we are waiting for the crisis to happen then figure it ;)
[02:38] <nickrud> mikebot, I though you asked about ext3 changes
[02:38] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:38] <grout58> how do i find the name of the second drive?
[02:39] <brenner> V4Vendetta: well, someone told me to update passwd and base-config
[02:39] <MaRk182> its a intel 815 with pro/100 ve any help?+
[02:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell Drakeson about installerbug
[02:39] <V4Vendetta> brenner, how do i update base-config
[02:39] <mikebot> nickrud, yes
[02:39] <nickrud> grout58, sudo fdisk -l should tell you
[02:39] <mikebot> nickrud, what defaults are we talking about?
[02:39] <brenner> V4Vendetta: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install base-config
[02:39] <nickrud> mikebot, your fstab is excellent for what you have in it; enjoy
[02:39] <jean> do sempron 64bit systems require 64bit software?
[02:39] <zyth> jean, no they can run 32bit
[02:40] <Drakeson> bimberi: of course I know about it, I just meant if there will be any news break or so
[02:40] <brenner> V4Vendetta: i meant passwd the package btw
[02:40] <bimberi> Drakeson: a fix is out ...
[02:40] <jean> zyth: then why is this so flaky
[02:40] <zyth> jean, I have no idea what you mean
[02:40] <mikebot> nickrud, hehe okay thanks
[02:40] <Protocol1> my kernel updated today
[02:40] <purpleidea> !pastebin
[02:40] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:40] <MaRk182> its ubuntu having problems with intel pro/100 lan?
[02:40] <jean> stuff keeps crashing
[02:41] <mikebot> nickrud, wait, so just to make sure: /dev/hdb6       /media/fext3   ext3    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000        0       0
[02:41] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> does anyone know how to change a hostname from command line ?
[02:41] <zyth> MaRk182, never has for me.
[02:41] <grout58> i can see the hdb1 in fdisk but it says its not there when i try to mount it
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> brenner, got it, thanks
[02:41] <overrider> HymnToLife, man hostname
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> HymnToLife, sudo gedit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:41] <zyth> jean, which version of ubunutu are you using?
[02:41] <nickrud> mikebot, no, don't add those masks, i meant the available options where the same, not make them the same :)
[02:41] <HymnToLife> V4Vendetta> I did it, now the network won't restart
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> HymnToLife, hm... weird
[02:42] <concept10> Anyone need some server racks?
[02:42] <overrider> me
[02:42] <grout58> nickrud help!!!
[02:42] <_jason> HymnToLife: hostname command will do but you need to update /etc/hosts as well or you will lose the ability to sudo
[02:42] <zyth> concept10, you paying for shipping? ;) hehe.
[02:42] <mikebot> nickrud, no, nick, i'm sorry, i didn't explain...i'm adding an ext3 that wasn't in fstab yet, cause i hadn't added it yet, so i didn't know what to put for the options
[02:42] <concept10> zyth, no, thats the only problem, you could have em for free
[02:42] <nickrud> mikebot, what you were doing with those mask was applying a static permission to all the files in the partition; ext3 permissions are dynamic, so you don't need those entries
[02:42] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:43] <MaRk182> zyth, is not installing the nic driver
[02:43] <jean> zyth: i386 upped to k7 breezy
[02:43] <zyth> concept10, hehe, the shipping cost alone would be nuts.  hehe. :)
[02:43] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: never
[02:43] <V4Vendetta> what kind of school do i go to when they ask you what the word diverse means
[02:43] <mikebot> nickrud, so i don't need any options?
[02:43] <V4Vendetta> Lmfao
[02:43] <jean> zyth: too many problems
[02:43] <nickrud> mikebot, all you need is 'defaults'
[02:43] <jean> zyth: its like why me zyth
[02:43] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: how do i restore the GDM
[02:43] <lewix> yop
[02:43] <mikebot> nickrud, oh okay, thanks
[02:43] <zyth> Jean, and you're not trying to run any 64bit software, right?
[02:43] <nickrud> mikebot, for your new ext3
[02:44] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm   ?
[02:44] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: didnt work
[02:44] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  ?
[02:44] <jean> zyth: no i havent
[02:44] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:44] <mikebot> nickrud, i don't have permission to write on it now...the new ext3
[02:44] <mikebot> nickrud, haha
[02:44] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: after i installed kubuntu desktop, when i turn my laptop on the blue GDM comes up from kubuntu
[02:45] <nickrud> mikebot, of course, you need to set the permissions :)
[02:45] <jean> zyth: i go away and programs i have running are just missing off the screen
[02:45] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: you are talking about the "splash screen" ?
[02:45] <mikebot> nickrud,  how do i do that?
[02:45] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: yes
[02:45] <grout58> it says theres no /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab but its in fdisk
[02:45] <jean> zyth: they crash
[02:45] <nickrud> mikebot, do you intend this partition to be readable by only you?
[02:45] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:45] <ph1qt10n> ok
[02:46] <mikebot> nickrud, i'm the only user, so i don't mind
[02:46] <MaRk182> zyth did you install something or it just detects it?
[02:46] <mikebot> nickrud, i just want to use it as storage
[02:46] <djs_2_6> Anyone know how to install avidemux?  I am getting an error that it cannot find spidermonkey, even after I have installed it, the -bin, the -dev, libjs, and libjs-dev...
[02:46] <MrRio> wow, im loving flight 5
[02:46] <nickrud> mikebot, then sudo chown mike:mike /path/to/mount/point
[02:46] <jean> zyth: not sure how long its gonna take before i become the guy who kills his family. but i dont have any wife and kids so its ok :D
[02:46] <mikebot> mike is my ubuntu log on name?
[02:46] <nickrud> mikebot, exactly
[02:47] <mikebot> so michael:michael?
[02:47] <grout58> how do i mount hdb1
[02:47] <nickrud> mikebot, if that's who you log in as, yes
[02:47] <zyth> jean, well, unfortunately 'stuff crashes' is kinda like  taking your car to the mechanic and saying 'it's making a weird noise, what's wrong'.  They won't be able to tell from just that.
[02:47] <grout58> it asks for the file system
[02:47] <mikebot> nickrud, sudo chown michael:michael /media/fext3
[02:47] <mikebot> okay
[02:47] <witte> jean,
[02:47] <V4Vendetta> ls
[02:47] <V4Vendetta> oops
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> :-P
[02:48] <witte> stuff crashing could be problems with memory
[02:48] <witte> sorry
[02:48] <balu1> nickrud:  the log was long so i had to split it up in 3 parts... part 1 :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10160                 PART 2:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10161                                           Part 3:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10162
[02:48] <mikebot> nickrud, ah wonderful, thank you; can i delete that "lost and found" folder in it?
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> damn a new kernel is out
[02:48] <nickrud> mikebot, it's a filesystem housekeeping thing, let it live
[02:48] <balu1>  a new kernel is out?
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> balu1, yes
[02:48] <witte> I've seen mozilla die unexpectedly, memtest found problems with the memory
[02:48] <nickrud> balu1, k
[02:48] <balu1> nickrud: thanks again
[02:48] <mikebot> nickrud, can i hide it?
[02:48] <jean> witte: im running a full gnome with 256mb
[02:48] <zyth> there's *always* a new kernel out.  Don't run off and upgrade like a lemming :P
[02:48] <djs_2_6> witte - My firefox dies all the time...
[02:48] <grout58> how do i mount hdb1
[02:49] <devians> my phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?
[02:49] <grout58> it asks for the file system
[02:49] <zyth> grout58, -t fstype
[02:49] <zyth> like -t ext3
[02:49] <nickrud> balu1, do you have libglide3 installed?
[02:49] <zyth> er assuming you're using the mount command
[02:49] <balu1> nickrud: yes i folowed ur instructions and installed it.
[02:49] <balu1> nickrud: i can check it if u can tell me how ;p
[02:50] <witte> djs_2_6, have you run memtest86?  I've also seen firefox randomly crash on a computer with good memory
[02:50] <nickrud> apt-cache policy libglide3
[02:50] <japanlover> For some reason it won't let me check off the add check box for the multiverse...any idea why?
[02:50] <zyth> personally, I'd reccomend opera 9 over Firefox, but I'm a heretic :P
[02:50] <grout58> it says hdb1 does not exist
[02:50] <mikebot> nickrud, okauy, one more thing..hehe...as for the f:ntfs...if i want to change the mount point to fntfs, can i just edit fstab then do that remount command, and i wont have to do all this editing again?
[02:50] <zyth> japanlover, have you specified any multiverse repos in your sources?
[02:50] <rukuartic> devians: http://phpmyadmin.sf.net :)
[02:50] <djs_2_6> witte - Yep, my memory is perfect.  It is firefox on this distro...
[02:50] <jean> with not enough memory would the system just slow down?
[02:50] <_jason> japanlover: do you mean it is there and when you click it does nothing or it doesn't even show up?
[02:51] <japanlover> it is there, but i check it off and click ok and go back, and it's unchecked
[02:51] <balu1> nickrud : libglide3:  installed: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu1 // candidate: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu1
[02:51] <djs_2_6> witte - BTW, I have 1GB of OCZ Gold VX @ 240FSB and it tests consistently perfect...
[02:51] <nickrud> mikebot, you'll umount, change fstab, then mv /media/f:ntfs /media/fntfs , then remount
[02:51] <balu1> nickrud: so ya i think it is instaleld
[02:51] <djs_2_6> So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??
[02:52] <mikebot> nickrud, okay thanks
[02:52] <nickrud> [dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024, <-- this is the problem, you aren't using a low enough res
[02:52] <witte> djs_2_6 from my experience, on instance of firefox will run for 2-3 days and then crash.  Mozilla seems to last weeks soemtimes.
[02:52] <zyth> 16mb ram?
[02:52] <zyth> ickyy.
[02:52] <djs_2_6> witte - That, and it hates to have more than like 3 windows open with more than say 15-20 tabs...
[02:52] <japanlover> the universe check box won't stay checked either
[02:53] <nickrud> balu1, but, your accell says 1024x768 for 16 bit; you're not running accell on this log
[02:53] <jean> whats a PMMU
[02:53] <grout58> i need help getting a drive mounted
[02:53] <mikebot> nickrud, ugh, don't have permissions again
[02:53] <jean> Paged memory management unit
[02:53] <nickrud> zyth, 1998 tech, it blew our socks off :)
[02:53] <Ads_> omg
[02:53] <Ads_> i got my wireless working on my own ^_______________________^
[02:53] <Ads_> and i'm a n00b
[02:54] <zyth> nickrud, hehehe :D I remember X on an 8mb card... Windowmaker was soo pretty
[02:54] <nickrud> mikebot, you've had a working one; go back to it, then work your way forward again. It's exactly the same process
[02:54] <balu1> nickrud: ?? i saved the log right after the accel errored.
[02:54] <lewix> how can I make a website on linux ?
[02:54] <nickrud> balu1, but, the log's say otherwise
[02:54] <zyth> Ads_, I bet you read the instructions, eh?
[02:54] <mikebot> nickrud, haha okay
[02:54] <jean> Linux is easily portable to most general-purpose 32- or 64-bit architectures as long as they have a paged memory management unit (PMMU) and a port of the GNU C compiler (gcc) (part of The GNU Compiler Collection, GCC). Linux has also been ported to a number of architectures without a PMMU, although functionality is then obviously somewhat limited. See the Clinux project for more info.
[02:54] <Protocol1> ok if cedega doesnt support direct 3d does anyone know what does?
[02:54] <Ads_> zyth now i didn't
[02:54] <balu1> nickrud: hm..so what should i attempt?
[02:54] <Eleaf> I'm have DRASTIC dns issues
[02:55] <jean> what is this PMMU
[02:55] <lewix> is there a speific software /
[02:55] <lewix> ?
[02:55] <zyth> Protocol1, what are you talking about?
[02:55] <grout58> i cant mount /dev/hdb1
[02:55] <balu1> nickrud: i could edit the xorg.conf?? instead of trying to switch between accel/nonaccel?
[02:55] <Eleaf> Ubuntu is NOT using a dns for anything
[02:55] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:55] <witte> djs_2_6 - I've read someware about configuration file issues with both mozilla and firefox, but that seems like it would have been fixed ages ago.
[02:55] <Ads_> zyth: i just used ndiswrapper and it didn;'t work so i tried to gedit the interface listing and changed something and it worked :D
[02:55] <zyth> Eleaf, do you have an /etc/hosts ?
[02:55] <Eleaf> yes
[02:55] <Protocol1> zyth, playing in direct 3d format
[02:55] <zyth> Ads_, ahh.  So you couldn't do it again if needed? ;)
[02:55] <Eleaf> zyth, all was working fine, now it is not
[02:55] <grout58> i cant mount /dev/hdb1
[02:55] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:55] <Eleaf> DNS support waves in and out of ubuntu as the day goes on
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, as in games?
[02:56] <Eleaf> zyth, ^
[02:56] <Ads_> zyth: no i can now :)
[02:56] <nickrud> balu1, cp xorg.accell xorg.conf ; restart X. before you start X, verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024x768
[02:56] <Protocol1> instead of open gl...can I?
[02:56] <Protocol1> yeah
[02:56] <Ads_> zyth: i just moved auto wlan0 above some lines
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, depends on the game with cedega.
[02:56] <Eleaf> This is a HORRIBLE bug if it is one
[02:56] <balu1> nickrud: how can i verify that??
[02:56] <Protocol1> ok
[02:56] <djs_2_6> witte - You would have figured, but really, Ubuntu is still teething, so I will be patient for a while...
[02:56] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:56] <Eleaf> how do I FORCE ubuntu to use dns?
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, check Cedega's compatibility lost.
[02:56] <Eleaf> It is currently using localhost as the dns, but I specified it to do this NOWHERE
[02:56] <zyth> Eleaf, msg me your /etc/hosts
[02:56] <djs_2_6> witte - BTW, I have even upgraded to the new 1.5 FF and it made no difference...
[02:56] <mikebot> nickrud, thanks for your help
[02:57] <grout58> can u help me nickrud
[02:57] <zyth> Protocol1, er.. list
[02:57] <lewix> I would like to make a website, but I'm quite new with linux(more precisely ubuntu). Do you know how I can make a website ?
[02:57] <V4Vendetta> lewix, sudo apt-get install bluefish
[02:57] <witte> djs_2_6 - Are you running 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?  My experience is with the 64 bit flavor.
[02:57] <grout58> can u help me nickrud
[02:57] <lewix> thanks
[02:57] <percent_20> ubuntu 64? what is the default sound system it uses? does anyone know?
[02:57] <zyth> lewix, step 1) learn HTML., step 2) get an editor, step 3) design a page, 4) make some nice graphics...
[02:58] <djs_2_6> witte - 32 bit...
[02:58] <jean> witte: what is your cpu?
[02:58] <V4Vendetta> hmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay
[02:58] <V4Vendetta> whats up /w that?
[02:58] <lewix> hmm Html for simple website but I'm talking about interactif website
[02:58] <devians_> my phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?
[02:58] <lewix> V4Vendetta, thank you
[02:59] <V4Vendetta> lewix, no problem
[02:59] <witte> jean - Its dual opteron based .
[02:59] <grout58> nickrud i need ur help
[02:59] <MrRio> lewix: 'interactive' websites use javascript
[02:59] <balu1> nickrud: how do i verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024 b4 i restart X?
[02:59] <nickrud> grout58, I'm back, lemme finish balu1
[02:59] <MrRio> lewix:: or if you mean websites that does stuff server-side, you'll need to learn PHP
[02:59] <devians_> noone?
[03:00] <xm07> how do you unpack deb files?
[03:00] <V4Vendetta> xm07, sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[03:00] <polpak> MrRio, java applets work too
[03:00] <grout58> how do i mount /dev/hdb1
[03:00] <balu1> i dunno how to verify
[03:00] <lewix> MrRio: I know about those languages, but I you guys know frontpage or dreamwaver in windows , those are powerful software to design website easily
[03:01] <grout58> how do i mount /dev/hdb1
[03:01] <bimberi> grout58: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/mountpoint
[03:01] <polpak> !info nvu
[03:01] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[03:01] <nickrud> balu1, after you copy over the xorg.conf, read it, make sure there are no resolutions higher for SubSection Display Depth 16
[03:01] <balu1> k
[03:02] <fatehaze> I got Phil Zimmermann to use Ubuntu
[03:02] <polpak> lewix, if you have universe enabled you can use sudo apt-get install nvu
[03:02] <balu1> nickrud: yes the 16 maxes out
[03:02] <fatehaze> He JUST NOW found out about GnuPG
[03:02] <eobanb> hi all.  i have ubuntu on an older dell latitude and i want to completely remove gnome and install fluxbox.  what's the best way to remove gnome?
[03:02] <nickrud> balu1, at 1024x768?
[03:02] <witte> I'm trying to troubleshoot an LSI 53C1030 scsi controller that is throwing scsi errors several times a week.  One of the common erros are:  mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0047): SCSI Protocol Error And mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0044): SCSI Data Overrun
[03:03] <lewix> polpak, thank, how do I execute it ?
[03:03] <nickrud> balu1, if yes, log out, ctl-alt-backspace, log back in
[03:03] <balu1> nickrud: yep.. is thre a proper way to restart the X? , i always go ctrl alt f1, then type "sudo killall -9 gdm"
[03:03] <balu1> nickrud: k ill do that
[03:03] <ads_> Anyone know how I can sort out this keyboard and mouse lag which occasional occurs?
[03:03] <witte> It has two scsi drives on a properly terminated U320 cable and one cd burner on a 68-50 pin converter on the second channel
[03:03] <ubuntutest> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> balu1> Ctrl+Alt+BkSpc
[03:03] <nickrud> grout58, what are you trying to do?
[03:03] <polpak> lewix, it should make an icon for it under either applications->internet or applications->programming
[03:04] <balu1> nickrud: ctrl+al+backspaced... im sitting at a terminal..its not really doing anything?
[03:04] <lewix> k thanks again, I've typed nvu in the terminal and it works
[03:04] <polpak> balu1, are you in X windows now?
[03:04] <nickrud> balu1, switch to terminal one, and copy over the /var/log/Xorg.0.log now, this will preserve the error messages
[03:04] <balu1> polpak: um..im at a terminal on a black screen.
[03:04] <witte> I've googled this and come up with only a few hits, suggesting there is an instability in the 2.6 kernel driver.
[03:05] <polpak> balu1, if not, (and you are using ubuntu not kunbuntu) try /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:05] <balu1> nickrud: how do i switch to terminal 1??
[03:05] <nickrud> balu1, ctl-alt-f1 :)
[03:05] <balu1> nickrud: god im a noob
[03:05] <nickrud> lol, it's all about context, you're sitting at a blank terminal 7, that's where X runs
[03:06] <mikebot> what's a good cd burner for ubuntu?
[03:06] <balu1> nickrud: k..now how do i go back to my desktop? ;p ctrl alt f7?
[03:06] <polpak> mikebot, there something wrong with the default?
[03:06] <nickrud> balu1, exactly
[03:06] <witte> I'm using an old BP5
[03:06] <mikebot> polpak, wasn't aware there was a default--what's it called?
[03:06] <V4Vendetta> hmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay
[03:06] <V4Vendetta> whats up /w that?
[03:07] <polpak> mikebot, for audio cd's it's serpentine
[03:07] <mikebot> polpak, and that's already installed?...is there one program that can burn audio and data like a nero?
[03:07] <djs_2_6> So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??
[03:07] <polpak> mikebot, k3b is pretty similiar to nero
[03:08] <mikebot> sudo apt-get install k3b?
[03:08] <polpak> mikebot, yeah, but it requires a bunch of kde liba
[03:08] <polpak> libs
[03:08] <RemyLaptop> hi, anyone know much about gdesklets ?
[03:08] <regeya> nickrud, it's darn rude of a kde app to be more full-featured...erm, I mean, confusingly full-featured...erm, I mean, confusing to the average user...
[03:08] <nickrud> regeya, you think he got it?
[03:08] <mikebot> polpak, oh i don't want that
[03:08] <mikebot> is there a gnome one?
[03:08] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, ask away
[03:09] <balu1> nickrud: i want to check that i got u the right log b4 posting.. how can i do that
[03:09] <regeya> mikebot, um, there's, uh, shoot, gnomebaker?  that's not the one I'm thinking of...hang on, I'm doing a search
[03:09] <mikebot> regeya, hehe okay thanks
[03:09] <nickrud> balu1, if you copied /var/log/Xorg.0.log to home before you restarted X, you got the right one
[03:09] <regeya> there's a nice gnome app that does just about everything other than automating video dvd burns
[03:09] <balu1> nickrud:  i did that. k leme post it
[03:09] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta I'm getting an error when starting a network monitor... error: http://pastebin.com/600882
[03:10] <polpak> mikebot, the forum lists gnomebaker as a replacement app for nero
[03:10] <polpak> mikebot, I've never used it though
[03:10] <mikebot> polpak, okay thanks
[03:10] <carny> hello
[03:10] <nickrud> balu1, an easy way to post: gedit <file>, ctl-a , paste to pastebin
[03:10] <carny> how do i exit to the console in ubuntu 5.10?
[03:10] <thizilati> hello, i am trying to play mp3's but cannot. wich program should i use?
[03:10] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, have you configged the gdesklet to use the right device, example: eth0
[03:10] <carny> sorry exit to the command line*
[03:10] <_jason> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <nickrud> carny, alt-ctl-f 1 thru 6
[03:10] <regeya> !tell carny about restricted formats
[03:10] <polpak> carny, you want to stop X, or you just want a terminal?
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta, yup.  It actually works...
[03:11] <polpak> tell thizilati about mp3
[03:11] <polpak> !tell thizilati about mp3
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> just that it gives me that error every time I load it...
[03:11] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, have you tried more then 1 desklet?
[03:11] <mike-ee> !restricted
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta I have heaps of others that work fine...  I haven't tried a different network monitor, no.
[03:11] <regeya> jeez louize
[03:12] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, try another one, maybe that one is coded wrong, and are you using eth0 for internet?
[03:12] <ph1qt10n> How can i remove the Kubuntu splash screen and restore the original brown ubuntu splash screen?
[03:12] <regeya> most can be replaced by FreeFormats...tell that to my dvd player
[03:12] <polpak> ph1qt10n, use gdm instead of kdm
[03:12] <nickrud> lol
[03:12] <regeya> tell that to the quicktime developers, come to that.
[03:12] <_jason> ph1qt10n: first 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' let me know when you finish that
[03:12] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta, will do.  yes, I am using eth0
[03:12] <djs_2_6> Hey, does anyone know where to find libmp4-0??
[03:13] <brenner> regeya: hence the "most" :P
[03:13] <balu1> nickrud:              part 1 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10163                 part 2  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10164                part 2
[03:13] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, okay
[03:13] <Casanova> does someone here use scim?
[03:13] <regeya> brenner, well, mp3 can be replaced.  or it can't.  depends on who you ask. :->
[03:14] <mikebot> hrm gnomebaker doesn't seem to add itself to anything under Applications
[03:14] <nickrud> balu1, same error: [dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024,
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> mikebot, it's under multimedia
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> mikebot, sound & video sorry
[03:14] <balu1> balu1: wtf..so did i ntot do it right?
[03:14] <mike-ee> why can't i get sound when playing AVIs?
[03:14] <grout58> anyone here use lighttp?
[03:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell mike-ee about multimedia
[03:15] <jcarter> woo! thanks ubuntu for autodetecting my 2200b/g
[03:15] <V4Vendetta> mike-ee, do you have the right codecs installed
[03:15] <mike-ee> porn is not the same without audio =T
[03:15] <regeya> considering that there are well-funded orgs in this country who don't think I have the right to take a CD home and rip it to listen to on my computer, I don't worry myself overly much about MP3. besides, Fraunhofer is a german company.  just let 'em sue someone for private use of an unlicensed idea.
[03:15] <nickrud> balu1, make your copy of the accell to xorg, then paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf (the one you intend to be accellerated)
[03:15] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, ah, thanks
[03:15] <RemyLaptop> anyone know if you can get Yahoo Widgets to work on linux ?  http://widgets.yahoo.com
[03:15] <mike-ee> V4Vendetta i have the cipherfunk codec package installed
[03:15] <V4Vendetta> mike-e, np
[03:15] <Toma-> mike-ee: some say theres some issues with widows media 9 codecs...
[03:15] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is there any way to make xchat-gnome operate like the xchat of olde?
[03:15] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, this burns audio cds too?
[03:15] <ubi_SK> hello there, sorry to bother you.  I`m a windows user and Ive a problem trying to run ubuntu from the live cd.  The loading process dies at "Startin Hotplug Subsystem". Does anyone know a way to solve it?
[03:15] <_jason> ph1qt10n: well after you finish updating alternatives, you have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'
[03:16] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, oh i see it, nevermind
[03:16] <nickrud> ahFeel, I finally can get rid of the ugly xubuntu splash screen
[03:16] <Toma-> ubi_SK: sounds like some bad harware.
[03:16] <nickrud> sorry ahFeel
[03:16] <mikebot> so does anyone here use banshee?
[03:17] <ubi_SK> thanks Toma-
[03:17] <intelikey> ubi_SK start with nohotplug
[03:17] <adam_> I'm having trouble with printing and margins -- things print outside their margins regardless of what I do the size of the paper is letter: 8-1/2" x 11" and the printer is an HP PSC 1315 For example, whenever I print something in Firefox, everything shows up fine except the top text (page number and date), they're cut off (only a very small portion of the text shows)
[03:17] <balu1> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 here u are
[03:17] <Toma-> ubi_SK: np. doubt thats going to help tho :/ try the dapper/flight 5 live cd?
[03:17] <adam_> changing the margin in Firefox from 0.5" to 1.0" changed nothing
[03:17] <jcarter> has anyone here gotten xgl working?
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> In Windows I used to get messages about extending my battery life (laptop) by setting thresholds for battery charge while plugged into the AC adaptor, and completely discharging and recharging the battery periodically.  Can/should I do this in Ubuntu, and how?
[03:18] <ubi_SK> sorry, I only have Ubuntu 5.1.  How do I sart without hotplug?
[03:18] <Toma-> jcarter: i tried it, but got lots and lots of artifacts. ask in #ubuntu+1 and/or #xgl
[03:18] <jcarter> toma: oh, ok, thanks
[03:18] <Jared[1] > hey, quick question about Grub
[03:18] <nickrud> PuppiesOnAcid, apt-get install xhat
[03:18] <nickrud> *xchat
[03:19] <jean> can someone tell me if when you compile a kernel theres an option for sempron in the list in one of the versions?
[03:19] <Jared[1] > I installed it in the MBR of one of my drives, and when I try to boot using it, it just repeats the text "GRUB" many times
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> ubi_SK: You can hit Ctrl-C when it hangs to skip it in the startup process.
[03:19] <Toma-> jean: nope. but it still works as a k7, or if its a 64-bit sempron, k8
[03:19] <DarkMageZ> has anyone installed ut2k4?, how did it go?
[03:19] <ubi_SK> thanks tonyyarusso, bot Ive already tried that
[03:19] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: yep, works fine
[03:19] <nickrud> balu1, that one looks right. you got DefaultDepth 16, & Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" in Depth 16
[03:19] <adam_> anyone know why I might be having trouble with printer margins in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <grout58> i need to restart lighttp whats the command?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> ubi_SK: Oh, okay.
[03:20] <intelikey> Jared[1]  are you changing bios setting to cause boot from that drive ?
[03:20] <brenner> i thought all semprons were 32bit
[03:20] <Dingbat> Question:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?
[03:20] <balu1> nickrud: right..maybe im doing the error logging wrong
[03:20] <Jared[1] > yeah, it is set to boot from that drive
[03:20] <balu1> nickrud: can u out line it step by step..now that i ahve the xorg.conf as accel
[03:20] <Toma-> nah, new semprons are 64bit socket 754. ive got a 64-bit sempron 3100 :)
[03:20] <Jared[1] > when I installed grub on it, I did the following:
[03:20] <Jared[1] > root (hd5,0)
[03:20] <Jared[1] > setup (hd2)
[03:20] <nickrud> balu1, the error log gets written over every time you restart X
[03:21] <ubi_SK> do you know how to diable hotplug in the startup?
[03:21] <Jared[1] > because my /boot partition is on hd5 in the first parition, and I want to boot off of drive hd2
[03:21] <Toma-> ubi_SK: intelikey told you, nohotplug at the boot line options
[03:21] <Makura> Do favorite pages in Firefox have a place on the harddrive?  If so, where is the folder where they are kept?
[03:21] <nickrud> balu1, your xorg is right, and you said you have libglide3 installed, that's all you need to do.
[03:21] <balu1> nickrud:  i understand but if thats the case, the weird error log u see is either a left over, or i didnt copy it over at the right time?
[03:21] <Toma-> darn friends using outlook. they keep sending me virus's :D *chuckle*
[03:21] <nickrud> balu1, probably not at the right time.
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: yes but X doesnt restart.
[03:22] <Dingbat> Question:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?
[03:22] <ubi_SK> thaks you all very much, I ll try it right away
[03:22] <Toma-> Dingbat: run ksnapshot
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: k so thats what i meant.. can u out line step by step starting from copying xorg.conf as my accel file
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Makura: There's a file containing them, I think something like ~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html.
[03:22] <nickrud> balu1, I ran that near exact xorg for 4 years.
[03:22] <Jared[1] > has anyone had this problem with grub?  it's a very difficult thing to search for on google
[03:22] <intelikey> Jared[1]  what i'm asking is if the bios has changed sense you set that up.   cause mbr is read and grub expects that to be hd0       a confused way to handel booting if you ask me.    that's why i like lilo.
[03:22] <RemyLaptop> anyone have any words to recommend superkaramba over gdesklets ?
[03:22] <Makura> tonyyarusso: Thanks
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: i dnt get it, why on earth is it not workin on my end ;x
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: depends on if youre using KDE or gnome
[03:23] <Dingbat> Thank you Toma-
[03:23] <nickrud> balu1, it makes better sense for now, to get a working xorg, then copy it over to accell
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> using gnome
[03:23] <Toma-> Dingbat: np
[03:23] <Unity> Remenic: gdesklets are =( but i never tried the other one
[03:23] <Jared[1] > intelikey: yes, I had to tell the bios to boot off of the drive where I installed Grub in the MBR
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: stick to gdesklets
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> is superkaramba kde only ?
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> k
[03:23] <balu1> nickrud: but thatd mean no 3d accel right?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: did u install the patch?
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: not kde ONLY, just it used kde libs so itll take up more ram
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> I was checking out yahoo widgets, and they have soooo many cool widgets.
[03:23] <nickrud> balu1, no, get it right, then save the working xorg
[03:23] <Jared[1] > intelikey: you can boot using grub from any drive, right?  why does it expect it to be hd0?
[03:23] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: what patch? just used the linux installer and run
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> gdesklets has some cool stuff, but widgets craps all over it :-P
[03:24] <nickrud> balu1, gotta go for 5-10 minutes
[03:24] <ph1qt10n> how can i change the usplash?
[03:24] <percent_20> !xgl
[03:24] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:24] <_jason> ph1qt10n: I just told you :/
[03:24] <balu1> nickrud: thats what i have been attempting.. , k np, thanks for ur time tho.. appreciate it
[03:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell ph1qt10n about usplashchange
[03:24] <percent_20> !dapper
[03:24] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[03:24] <abarbaccia> hey all - if i have a doc file and want it to be a pdf is there any linux tool to accomplish this easily?
[03:24] <Jared[1] > use openoffice writer
[03:25] <_jason> abarbaccia: OOo writer exports to pdf
[03:25] <abarbaccia> ooo fun
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: oh, well there's an offical patch, bringing it to 3355, making it equal to the windows version
[03:25] <abarbaccia> thanks guys
[03:25] <abarbaccia> didn't even know that
[03:25] <Toma-> _jason: any idea on how to make your own artwork.so? :)
[03:25] <_jason> !usplash
[03:25] <ubotu> [usplash]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:25] <ph1qt10n> thanks _jason
[03:25] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: oic. i dont play online with the fullversion :/ not enough players... only the demo has lots of players in my area
[03:26] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: ah, k, i guess i'll just see if i can get the patch working, should be fun
[03:26] <Toma-> thx _jason
[03:26] <intelikey> Jared[1]  that's the problem then.   grub is looking for the bios drive hd5 which is now bios drive hd0  ie you confused grub by changing bios settings.     i'm not sure there is a way around what you have done.    if you can boot a grub disk with the present bios setting and reconfigure grub to act according to this new bios settings it should then boot.
[03:26] <NickNoze> hello
[03:27] <NickNoze> I want to tru ubuntu
[03:27] <NickNoze> how do ifigure out whichdvdtodownload
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> Jared[1] , intelikey: What about the live CD way of fixing grub problems?
[03:27] <NickNoze> there are3
[03:27] <hejin>  /msg treetree Register treetree
[03:27] <Jared[1] > intelikey:  well the thing is, I have my /boot on one drive, and I have the Grub bootloader in the MBR of another drive
[03:28] <Toma-> NickNoze: what type of CPU/PC do you have?
[03:28] <NickNoze> well, an HP and it is 5 years old
[03:28] <Jared[1] > intelikey: so you're saying that the drive numbers get changed around depending on which one is set as the boot drive?
[03:28] <NickNoze> cpu... AMD933 Mhz
[03:28] <intelikey> tonyyarusso that is kinda what i said.   but if he has to change bios to boot the live then he wont be able to fix it there either.
[03:28] <haasteem> hi, i am looking for a good podcasting application... any suggestions?
[03:28] <Toma-> NickNoze: get the 386 version
[03:28] <NickNoze> ok.thanks
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Point.  Wasn't really following, but caught a little bit.
[03:28] <Toma-> haasteem: what is podcasting?
[03:28] <Jared[1] > intelikey: I haven't changed the bios settings since I installed grub in the MBR
[03:28] <thizilati> hmm, i have installed w32codecs and gstreamer, but i still cannot play mp3's. any insights?
[03:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell thizilati about mp3
[03:29] <lullabud> Toma-: podcasting is like rss for audio files.
[03:29] <percent_20> !alsa
[03:29] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:29] <thizilati> _jaon: ive read that page and it did not help
[03:29] <lullabud> instead of downloading news articles, it downloads audio files.
[03:29] <Toma-> internet radio?
[03:29] <lullabud> sorta like that, yeah.
[03:29] <haasteem> Toma: that's it
[03:29] <haasteem> Toma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast
[03:29] <Toma-> haasteem: shoutcast or icecast
[03:30] <Jared[1] > intelikey: also, the drive I'm trying to install it on is on a 3rd party IDE PCI card
[03:30] <powder> howdy
[03:30] <Jared[1] > intelikey: which my BIOS sees as a SCSI card
[03:30] <_jason> thizilati: what does 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed' say?
[03:30] <lullabud> Toma-: it's not a live stream, it actually downloads an mp3.
[03:30] <Toma-> haasteem: icecast or darkice... i used to run a radio station with darkice :D
[03:30] <grout58> what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot
[03:30] <grout58> what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot
[03:30] <Toma-> oh.
[03:31] <bimberi> lullabud: an app to manage podcast feeds?  ipodder
[03:31] <Toma-> isnt that illegal?
[03:31] <thizilati> Installed: 0.8.12-0unofficialubuntu1
[03:31] <Eleaf> ?
[03:31] <Eleaf> lol
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: edit your /etc/fstab file to include that drive
[03:31] <ve> how can I bind vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: you should be able to figure it out from the other lines in that file
[03:31] <lullabud> Toma-: just like anything people could use it to do illegal things, but most of it is authorized.
[03:31] <lullabud> Toma-: for instance, NPR has most of their radio shows available as podcasts.
[03:31] <Toma-> i see.
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: but, you should read man fstab
[03:31] <_jason> thizilati: unofficialubuntu? what is that... pastebin 'apt-cache policy apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed
[03:32] <_jason> thizilati: bah typo, I mean 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad'
[03:32] <bimberi> Toma-: as does the ABC over 'ere :)
[03:32] <lullabud> bimberi: i'm not looking for a podcast manager, i have a mac. ;-)
[03:32] <nalioth> !offtopic
[03:32] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:32] <haasteem> Toma: ok, i'll look into it... thanks
[03:32] <Toma-> so P2P networks should just run a small radio station and say that its all just podcasting? :)
[03:32] <bimberi> lullabud: kk, i wasn't sure from your Q
[03:32] <intelikey> Jared[1]  i thought you just told me you did ?      Jared[1]  this is what you are up against.   linux does NOT use bios to determine hdd addressing.  but mbr looks on the address you tell it, according to what bios address it can access.   i.e.  if you are reading an mbr from something besides /dev/hda you will probably have problems with grub.    can it be worked out.  short answer yes.   but not easily
[03:33] <Jared[1] > intelikey: okay, thanks for your help
[03:33] <thizilati> _jason: check pastebin
[03:33] <_jason> thizilati: link?
[03:34] <intelikey> Jared[1]  lilo loads into mbr  so it does not suffer from that restriction.
[03:34] <thizilati> _jason: http://pastebin.com/600918
[03:34] <_jason> thizilati: what are you playing the file with? and what happens when you try?
[03:35] <thizilati> _jason: ive tried totem and rhythmbox, totem says decoder not found, while rhythmbox acts like its going to play it for a split second then does nothing
[03:36] <nekostar> DAM
[03:36] <nekostar> why is k3b burning at 2x all the time?!?!?!
[03:36] <nickrud> balu1, ping
[03:36] <denver> its not
[03:36] <_jason> thizilati: run 'gst-register-0.8' and restart the players
[03:36] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to run updates in terminal instead of using synaptic. I know of sudo apt-get update. but is there something else i have to do?
[03:36] <balu1> nickrud: sup?
[03:36] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get update
[03:36] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[03:37] <nickrud> balu1, any progress?
[03:37] <bimberi> lullabud: and now i realise it was haasteem who asked anyway (D'Oh).   hasteem:  ipodder
[03:37] <balu1> nickrud: nope :(
[03:37] <ve> OmegaAlpha: aptitude?
[03:37] <balu1> nickrud: i made a new log.. where do  i check fo rthe resolutoin thing
[03:38] <OmegaAlpha> ve, forgot about that. but are there parameters ?
[03:38] <ve> non necessary
[03:38] <ve> none
[03:38] <intelikey> what is the easiest way to start an app every time twm starts ?   .Xresources ?
[03:39] <intelikey> anybody know ?
[03:39] <nickrud> balu1, starting from the bottom of the log, you wanna look roughly 90 lines back
[03:39] <ve> so, anyone know how to vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment?
[03:39] <thizilati> _jason: well im further, its doing more than before. XMMS showed up under apps > sound& video, and it plays the song. Except it's giving me an error about my sound card.
[03:39] <balu1> nickrud: k
[03:39] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, vncserver --help  ?
[03:40] <Stargazers> Hi
[03:40] <nickrud> balu1, if nothing else, you'll learn to read X logs, which are long :)
[03:40] <_jason> thizilati: check the output, make sure it uses esd or alas, whichever you use.  Does it work in totem now?
[03:40] <haasteem> bimberi: ok... i see it is in the repository... that's good ;)
[03:40] <_jason> thizilati: s/alas/alsa
[03:40] <intelikey> i want links2 to open a .gif  when i login to twm.    anyone ever mess with this before ?
[03:40] <Stargazers> How I can get URL from PHP-file? I mean, I use wget to download one PHP-file and then I need to get URL on $URL variable. How I can do that?
[03:40] <brenner> anyone set up a gmail notifier?
[03:40] <_jason> brenner: yes
[03:40] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, refers me to Xvnc..which has options for port, and localhost only, but nothing to bind to specific interface/IP
[03:41] <brenner> _jason: which one/how'd you do it?
[03:41] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, hmm strange.  Try man xvnc
[03:41] <OmegaAlpha> ve, im not familiar with aptitude. how would i do what the auto updater does... when you see it appearing on the top panel bar
[03:41] <FunnyLookinHat> "man xvnc"
[03:41] <thizilati> _jason: how do i check the output?
[03:41] <_jason> thizilati: xmms preferences
[03:41] <trym> I have added a repository to be able to install kde 3.5.1.. What do I have to do afterwards to install it? doing a upgrade doesnt cut it
[03:42] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, essentially the same as Xvnc --help
[03:42] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, apt-get upgrade I believe is what you are looking for
[03:42] <Stargazers> Anyone any ideas?
[03:42] <_jason> brenner: gmail-notifier in the repos.  Just enable pop in your settings through the normal gmail web interface and then configure gmail-notifier with your username and password
[03:42] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, that's unfortunate.  I assume you already googled and all, right?  Becasue that's whree i owuld look next
[03:42] <_jason> brenner: gmail-notify is the acutal package name
[03:43] <brenner> _jason: was wondering why i couldn't find it. thanks
[03:43] <ve> OmegaAlpha, u to Update, then g to Download/Install?
[03:43] <TheWrench> Hi, I am reformatting my hard drive (200GB) and would like to try having multiple multiple operating systems.
[03:43] <ve> OmegaAlpha, may have to mark all items in Upgraded category first
[03:43] <TheWrench> Windows XP home and Ubuntu.
[03:43] <balu1> nickrud: i c what ur saying about the log tho.. even dri says ur 3d will only work when damn res is set right, all in the log ;x
[03:43] <TheWrench> what size partitions should I use?
[03:43] <balu1> prety helpful stuf
[03:43] <ve> TheWrench: grub is your friend
[03:44] <nickrud> X is pretty good, some others are not so clear
[03:44] <OmegaAlpha> doesnt apt-get upgrade, upgrade the kernel?
[03:44] <trym> help? :)
[03:44] <ve> OmegaAlpha, generally..if you haven't compiled a custom one
[03:44] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, partition sizes?  Well you probably only need 10 gig for ubuntu healthy...  but XP needs at least 25 to be a good install
[03:44] <nickrud> balu1, but you can nearly always get a decent error log, sometimes you just have to turn on an option
[03:45] <intelikey> TheWrench i would sujest about 10g each win ntfs  and  ubuntu ext3   then a media partition of about 40g  fat32 that either os can access easily
[03:45] <Rower> swe?
[03:45] <balu1> nickrud:  well.. this new error log sasy samething about virtual x res and y res..
[03:45] <OmegaAlpha> well what im trying to do is.. i have updates ready right now on the panelbar but it doesnt install them for some reason and does nothing
[03:45] <brenner> _jason: i assume it's meant to be run in the background?
[03:46] <nickrud> balu1, one I've looked at, or a new one
[03:46] <OmegaAlpha> soi figured trying to do it from terminal. i did sudo apt-get update but that doesnt seem to get rid of the updates on the panel bar from flashing
[03:46] <_jason> brenner: shows up in notifaction area
[03:46] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, any other ideas re: vnc?
[03:46] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, yea...  im googling, hold on
[03:46] <ArthurB> apt-get update firstt
[03:46] <nickrud> heh, new
[03:46] <brenner> _jason:
[03:46] <brenner> _jason: ah
[03:46] <balu1> nickrud: this is what i do .. tellme if im wrong 1) i replace the xorg.conf w/ the accel version, then i do a ctrl+alt+ backspace, and then at the terminal .. i do the sudo cp /var/log/xorg.0.conf /home/baluvideo.log  and then i revert to a working xorg.conf so i can get to my desktop
[03:46] <ArthurB> and apt-get upgrade then
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, tried xvnc -interface eth0 ?
[03:47] <balu1> nickrud: the new one i jst took has the samething in it
[03:47] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, guess I could do the localhost thing and just ssh connect with port forward
[03:47] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, no....lemme try
[03:47] <OmegaAlpha> oh wait nmd now its actually installing them..
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, I'm seeing a patch update here that says -interface should work
[03:47] <nickrud> balu1, I'd do those steps, just as you have them. Maybe wait about 20 sec, before going to the text console
[03:48] <balu1> nickrud: ya thats what i did..the logs not right tho?
[03:48] <OmegaAlpha> anyways should i do the sudo apt-get upgrade? people in the past told me that i shouldn't.
[03:49] <nickrud> balu1, if it's the one that says 1280x1024, no, you're not getting the right data into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, I personally think it doesn't make much of a difference.  Since ubuntu repos are all fairly well tested you should be ok doing that
[03:49] <ph1qt10n> !wine
[03:49] <am3r1ca> HELP !! i have a FAT32 partition but cant mount it, getting some weird erro, already edited fstab, but still wont work
[03:49] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, you shouldn't always do taht with debian etch /unstable however unless you like to live on the wild side
[03:49] <Rower> is there a web browser in the terminal i can use?
[03:49] <intelikey> am3r1ca show the line in /etc/fstab please
[03:49] <_jason> Rower: lynx
[03:49] <thizilati> _jason: where do i find preferences in xmms?
[03:50] <Rower> _jason: thanx..
[03:50] <am3r1ca> intelikey here ??
[03:50] <balu1> nickrud ; grrrrrrrr...
[03:50] <intelikey> am3r1ca yes just the one line
[03:50] <thizilati> _jason: nevermind
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> thizilati, you click the top left part of XMMS
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[03:50] <carny> hello
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, did that work??
[03:50] <TheWrench> ok, so 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, mabye 100GB (fat32) for media.
[03:50] <balu1> nickrud: how can just chang ethe resolution of my system?? Like sasy "just load 1024  as a default
[03:50] <am3r1ca> intelikey :dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0
[03:50] <carny> im trying to install ati drivers for my rage mobility m1
[03:50] <OmegaAlpha> btw anyone know how to recover files from a screwy partition?
[03:51] <carny> and i get the error message: ./aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, that would work fairly well probably
[03:51] <carny> could anyone please help me?
[03:51] <ve> OmegaAlpha, define screwy?
[03:51] <TheWrench> I also have lots of big programs for windows (MATLAB, Mathematica,VisualStudio...etc) should I makea big NTFS partition forthose?
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, probably.
[03:51] <am3r1ca> intelikey when i run the comand dmesg | tail i get a weird error
[03:52] <nickrud> balu1, lol, it is a total pain for old cards. I bought an nvidia just so I could get away from voodoo3 gl
[03:52] <_jason> TheWrench: I believe you can run matlab and mathematica in linux
[03:52] <balu1> nickrud: hm maybe thats what ill do , just pick up a cheap card.. im doing this cuz it wa the only spare card around
[03:52] <nickrud> I went as far as a 5200, I throw money :)
[03:52] <tritium> you can, _jason
[03:52] <intelikey> am3r1ca  how about  " dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat       users,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0  "  adding users should allow you to mount it.   you could add auto  so that it would be auto.         show the "weird" error.
[03:52] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, TheWrench , you can run those programs in linux, but you need to purchase the linux versions.
[03:52] <OmegaAlpha> ve, screwy as in, i can see it on linux, but not exactly what should be there, i cant access it on windows. but can see it with partition magic
[03:53] <_jason> FunnyLookinHat, TheWrench: I know my matlab came with the linux version on the same cd
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: do u know how to install a joystick/ ;p
[03:53] <nickrud> the voodoo was a great 2d card for the machine I ran it on.
[03:53] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, oh reallly?  that's freakin awesome!
[03:53] <flodine> anyone use mtail for there log files?
[03:53] <OmegaAlpha> ve, the directories are there as they shoudl be but once you access them.. the files arent there but a bunch of files written in ascii characters
[03:53] <nickrud> Joystick = 5 years of frustration
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: ya 2d works just fine
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: god bless ubuntu ;p
[03:53] <tritium> _jason: student version?
[03:53] <_jason> FunnyLookinHat: yeah, I was pretty surprised when I saw it
[03:53] <am3r1ca> intelikey the erro is [4295331.193000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[03:53] <am3r1ca> [4295331.198000]  FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
[03:53] <am3r1ca> [4295331.198000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda7.
[03:54] <_jason> tritium: it was actually a friends, not sure
[03:54] <am3r1ca> sory
[03:54] <ve> OmegaAlpha, what does fsck have to say about it?
[03:54] <xm07> im new to linux how would i run "./install.sh" as root
[03:54] <OmegaAlpha> ve, also i can no longer move or resize the partition in a partition program on windows or linux. also i have errors - something about missing clusters
[03:54] <ve> OmegaAlpha, does it report it as clean?
[03:54] <asdfasdfn__> what the file equivalent for /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[03:54] <_jason> xm07: what are you trying to install?
[03:54] <xm07> divx
[03:54] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, On ubuntu, you do sudo ./install.sh
[03:54] <xm07> ok thx
[03:54] <OmegaAlpha> ve whats fsck?
[03:54] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, but wait!
[03:54] <tritium> asdfasdfn__: /etc/ld.so.conf ;)
[03:55] <_jason> xm07: don't do that
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, Depending on what you are trying to install, I would suggest using synaptic
[03:55] <xm07> good thing i didnt
[03:55] <balu1> nickrud: so no easy way to detect a joystick huh?
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, What are you trying to install?
[03:55] <xm07> the divx codec for linux
[03:55] <intelikey> am3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda7     tell us ?
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> oh dude
[03:55] <thizilati> fuck my soundcard isnt even detected
[03:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell xm07 about restricted
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, Go to System - Administration - Synaptic
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, yea do what ubotu tells u
[03:55] <intelikey> or just sda
[03:55] <nickrud> balu1, I should refine that: 2 years of frustration, and 3 years of not really caring. I haven
[03:55] <nickrud> 't had a joystick recently, anyway.
[03:55] <am3r1ca> intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:56] <intelikey> or just sda
[03:56] <freenodes> how do i make from bootable cd to a bootable dvd ?
[03:56] <intelikey> am3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda     tell us ?
[03:56] <asdfasdfn__> tritium, this file does not exist here
[03:56] <mist> hi, i'm working on ubuntu on intel macs, and i'd like to discuss booting.... is anyone here who would like to talk about that? :-)
[03:56] <intelikey> sorry for the   7  up there.
[03:56] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i dont know what fsck is...
[03:56] <tritium> asdfasdfn__: did you delete it?
[03:56] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fsck is file system check
[03:56] <asdfasdfn__> tritium, no :>
[03:56] <am3r1ca> intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:56] <ve> OmegaAlpha, "man fsck"
[03:56] <OmegaAlpha> ve, well i justentered it and i dont think it sees the hd
[03:56] <lewix> what can I do to be able to watch videos online
[03:56] <intelikey> am3r1ca please read.
[03:57] <TheWrench> ok, so perhaps: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 100GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 25GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications.  Total 200GB.
[03:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, I would install xine
[03:57] <_jason> lewix: mplayer plug-in works well for me
[03:57] <TheWrench> what doyou think?
[03:57] <OmegaAlpha> ve, so i entered no for it to continue becuase it says it can cause severe damage
[03:57] <lewix> i have xine but apparently there is an error
[03:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, Try installing gxine package as well
[03:57] <am3r1ca> intelikey i ran the command fdisk -l, and the terminal says : intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:57] <ve> OmegaAlpha, you'll want to unmount the drive and run fsck against only that drive via the device name
[03:58] <lewix> xine engine failed to start.
[03:58] <lewix> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[03:58] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell lewix about restricted formats
[03:58] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, sorry but Iam truly a newbie, can you be more explicit
[03:58] <intelikey> am3r1ca eeeek      then that sounds like a job for testdisk
[03:58] <_jason> lewix: install w32codecs (see ubotu's message)
[03:58] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok yeah i was just about to do that.. but now the damn drive wont stop reading hehe.  I hope it sees it once i unmount it
[03:58] <am3r1ca> intelikey it cant open /dev/sda7
[03:58] <Falstius> TheWrench: if you mostly use linux, consider using ext3 for your media partition and loading an ext3 driver in windows.
[03:58] <ve> OmegaAlpha, run "mount" to see device name.....run "umount /dev/foo", then "fsck /dev/foo"
[03:58] <TheWrench> I have never used Linux before.
[03:59] <am3r1ca> intelikey how to testdisk ??
[03:59] <lewix> I already installed those package
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca bad partition table.   testdisk might be able to recover it.
[03:59] <crxyem> TheWrench:  ext3 drivers work great
[03:59] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, sure thing
[03:59] <lewix> ...
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && testdisk
[03:59] <_jason> lewix: try mplayer :)
[03:59] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, The problem is that you most likely don't have the libs installed for the codecs you are trying to view
[03:59] <Falstius> TheWrench: you don't need 25GB for apps ... I have 7.5 GB for apps and that is just barely halffull (and I have most things installed twice! 32/64 bits)
[03:59] <intelikey> or sudo the second
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk
[04:00] <Falstius> TheWrench: and that includes all of the system apps.
[04:00] <crxyem> so anyone falmiliar with repartioning hard disk space (dual boot winxp and ubuntu) ??? I need to give Ubuntu more room
[04:00] <Falstius> crxyem: back up your date first ...
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, this site has names of many packages you will need to get those restricted formats to play, such as mp3
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:00] <freenodes> how do i make from a live bootable cd to a live bootable dvd ?
[04:00] <Toma-> would a dapper kernel run on breezy? just compiled 2.6.15 and getting some nasty driver errors.
[04:00] <am3r1ca> intelikey, ok but check this out, the fat 32 partition was created with the ubuntu instalation, i created it, and in windows when i acessed the partion, it had all these folders in it
[04:01] <lewix> thanks again, give me one moment..just the time to read throughout the article
[04:01] <am3r1ca> i deleted them all, were they important ???
[04:01] <crxyem> not a problem , my question would be I need to repart my NTFS drive in winxp, and then add more space to / and /home , anything Ishould be aware of, will I need to edit grub
[04:01] <balu1> nickrud:  tdfx, im assuming, IS the right driver for the card right?? not glide?
[04:01] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, ok, you will install all of these packages via synaptic,   Found at System - Administration - Synaptic
[04:01] <am3r1ca> in windows the partition works fine, it just doesn work in ubuntu
[04:01] <intelikey> am3r1ca it is a clean partition ?      format it ?
[04:02] <Rower> how to install lynx?
[04:02] <am3r1ca> intelikey, yeah i just formated it in windows
[04:02] <_jason> Rower: you should have it, otherwise probably sudo apt-get install lynx
[04:02] <Falstius> crxyem: if you are only increase the size of the current partitions you won't need to edit grub.  The easiest way is to download an ubuntu or knoppix live cd and use the partition tools there.
[04:02] <Rower> thanx
[04:02] <TheWrench> ok, all advice considered.
[04:02] <intelikey> formated to fat32  or ntfs ?
[04:02] <Falstius> gparted or qparted.
[04:02] <TheWrench>  25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 110GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 15GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications. Total 200GB.
[04:03] <Rower> _jason: if i have it i only have to type lynx to start it?
[04:03] <_jason> Rower: yep
[04:03] <balu1> nickrud: the other thing...when i do an LSPCI...i get hex values (in terminal 1) ..
[04:03] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico!
[04:03] <crxyem> I didn;'t think you could partition ntfs space with knoppix of ubuntu
[04:03] <nickrud> balu1, yes. The only thing that comes to mind, is possibly your monitor refresh rates are no quite right. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 , along with libglide3 must work
[04:04] <Rower> _jason: it told me that the package lynx wasnt there..
[04:04] <TheWrench> So you think that this distributionis not possible?
[04:04] <_jason> !info lynx
[04:04] <ubotu> lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB
[04:04] <Falstius> TheWrench: Why don't you try 15 GB for windows, 40 GB for your warez, 10 GB for /, 15 GB for /home and the rest for media.
[04:04] <balu1> nickrud:  well i want to make sure im putting the right pci slot also.. when i do lspci,  my vid card value is 0000:01:00.0
[04:04] <Falstius> plus 2 GB swap.
[04:04] <balu1> nickrud: what par tof that is the PCI card value?
[04:04] <percent_20> !bluetooth
[04:04] <ubotu> I heard bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[04:04] <_jason> Rower: what version of ubuntu are you running and what kind of install did you do?
[04:05] <nickrud> balu1, pci is ok
[04:05] <Rower> server install
[04:05] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, got sidetracked....still messing with it
[04:05] <intelikey> am3r1ca if it is blank  i'd do this.      sudo cfdisk /dev/sda          delete anything not wanted.  make new partition set it to 06 or what ever you like   and write to disk & exit.  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda#   where # is the new number   7 or other.   then mount it.
[04:05] <percent_20> how do yo turn bluetooth off?
[04:05] <Falstius> TheWrench: it is very possible, just not efficient :)
[04:05] <Rower> _jason: 5.10 version
[04:05] <_jason> Rower: that's probably why.  Did 'sudo aptitude install lynx' not work?
[04:05] <balu1> nickrud: yes but i want to learn to distinguish between the two...so in a hex value.. how do i know which corresponds to the PCI?
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, haha, ok
[04:05] <nickrud> balu1, it was the same in both configs you showed me
[04:05] <Rower> _jason: didnt work
[04:05] <TheWrench> Falstius, why is itnot efficient?
[04:05] <balu1> nickrud: i set that pci manually :X
[04:05] <lgc> I wish someone could help me with this: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that? How about you, _jason? Could you help me?
[04:05] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok first i ran mount and saw it was sda1 but it was still reading so i waited and disconnected it and now its labeled as sdb1?
[04:05] <_jason> Rower: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the online repos.  Then do 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, perhaps have Rower use Synaptic?
[04:06] <_jason> Rower: do you have X?
[04:06] <Rower> _jason: no
[04:06] <FunnyLookinHat> ew gros.
[04:06] <nickrud> balu1, all I cared about pci values was that PCI:1: meant it was agp, everything else was bus
[04:06] <wicked_> hi! when i updates my sources list i got some of those failed, i did it in console and saw those ing thing... what r those?
[04:06] <Falstius> TheWrench: applications in Linux don't eat up harddrive in the same way as windows so devoting a large amount of space to them is impratical (unless you're running special CAD software or some such)
[04:06] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok !! thanks ill give it a go
[04:06] <balu1> nickrud: but its not an AGP card??
[04:06] <Rower> _jason: the final thing is that i want it to run as a server machine for cgi irc =) and its my first time trying to install linux.. :D
[04:06] <balu1> nickrud: im using a PCI card.
[04:06] <_jason> Rower: k, just uncomment the lines that start with ``deb'' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <intelikey> am3r1ca it kinda sounds like you made a partition and file system that didn't match and windows read it wrong and compounded the problem.
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell wicked_ about easysource
[04:07] <crxyem> can parted or qtparted resize ntfs partitions ?/
[04:07] <_jason> Rower: are you comfortable editing files in the terminal?
[04:07] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> wicked_, that should help you out, let me know
[04:07] <wicked_> funny thats where i went.. then i activated the gpg
[04:07] <Rower> _jason: yeah..
[04:07] <Falstius> crxyem: you should check the website.
[04:07] <nickrud> balu1, sudo lspci -v has the reference numbers (don't wanna say canonical)
[04:07] <_jason> Rower: k, just making sure :)
[04:07] <OmegaAlpha> brb
[04:07] <Rower> _jason: done it 2 times before =P
[04:07] <crxyem> good idea
[04:07] <TheWrench> Flastius: so you are not saying the formats are inefficient, just the sizes of the partitions?
[04:08] <Rower> _jason: running linux on this machine to.. but the problem is that im running a dualcore cpu..
[04:08] <intelikey> where is crimsun ?
[04:08] <Rower> and also, cant get the audio drivers correct..
[04:08] <lgc> nalioth, cafuego _jason could anyone of you help me with tonight's beef?
[04:08] <nalioth> lgc: what cut would that be?
[04:08] <Falstius> TheWrench: yep.  Although fat32 is pretty lame ... ext3 with ext3 drivers for windows or NTFS support in Linux is nicer ... but those both take some special loving.  So go with fat32 your first time.
[04:08] <nightvision> sup
[04:08] <crimsun> intelikey: he's fighting ssh tunneling atm
[04:08] <_jason> lgc: you want it to remember your last session or no?
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: :P these patches are great fun
[04:09] <wicked_> what does ign stand for.. ex: Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Sources
[04:09] <balu1> nickrud: u misunderstand me, i just want to know how to read the value, so like if i did lspci, i get a hex value of 0000:01:00.0, i f i wanted to enter a PCI: x:x:x  howd i type it?
[04:09] <nalioth> wicked_: ignore, cuz it already has that file
[04:09] <intelikey> crimsun would you beep me when you have a minute?
[04:09] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: oh rly
[04:09] <crimsun> intelikey: sure
[04:09] <lgc> _jason, nalioth: here it is again: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that?
[04:09] <carny> hello
[04:09] <wicked_> ho ok so that might be the reason why it failed i guess
[04:09] <nalioth> lgc: uncheck the box for 'remember this session'
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: ya, i sucessfully stuffed it up :)
[04:10] <Toma-> oh no :(
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <Rower> _jason: hmmza.. couldt edit the file :D
[04:10] <am3r1ca> intelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??
[04:10] <_jason> carny: that only gets you ignored
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> carny: First, to be more likely to get help don't flood.
[04:10] <_jason> Rower: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <Toma-> carny: repeating gets you onto my ignore list
[04:10] <Rower> aah nano was the command :D
[04:10] <carny> yeh well i get ignored either way
[04:10] <carny> please
[04:10] <ph1qt10n> !sound
[04:10] <balu1> not sure if im explaining myself well x
[04:10] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carny about attitude
[04:10] <balu1> :x
[04:10] <carny> ive asked about 10 times and ive been ignored every time
[04:10] <lgc> nalioth, that option is on the logout window, if I am correct. The problem is that I end up with the same "$#%# old session!
[04:10] <nickrud> balu1, :)
[04:11] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: why are you flooding this channel?
[04:11] <_jason> !ati
[04:11] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:11] <nickrud> balu1, I
[04:11] <intelikey> carny there is a quick to get banned from the channel,  just do that repete thing again   :)
[04:11] <carny> thankyou :D
[04:11] <balu1> nickrud  did ya get what i was saying? ;x
[04:11] <ph1qt10n> am i flooding it?
[04:11] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:11] <nickrud> balu1, yeah, and I am not a PCI calculator, I guess :)
[04:11] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: /msg ubotu msg the bot
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> carny: That probably means nobody who knows is here at the time that you ask.
[04:11] <TheWrench> Falstius: ok, now for the dumb questions.  why do you say 10g for / and 15g for /home?  what does this mean? alternatively, where should I go to find out?
[04:11] <_jason> lgc: system > preferences > sessions, was what nalioth was referring to I believe
[04:11] <balu1> nickrud: now im really confused, i thot it was just a difference in formats..?
[04:12] <rishi> hey buys
[04:12] <rishi> guys*
[04:12] <rishi> i have a question...
[04:12] <Eleaf> Can anybody else give me some dns servers?
[04:12] <nickrud> balu1, exactly, and I don't even get close enough to that kind of stuff to be able to roll it off the top of my head.
[04:12] <am3r1ca> intelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??
[04:12] <rishi> is dapper flight 5 pretty much usable
[04:12] <rishi> ?
[04:12] <Toma-> rishi: yep
[04:12] <shiv> am I just imagining things or the audio in kinux appears actually better than windows?
[04:12] <balu1> nickrud: dang.. k didnt kno it was that complicated
[04:12] <RemyLaptop> Hey guys, I managed to remove the clock from the system tray (top right hand corner
[04:12] <Falstius> TheWrench: / will be where all of your system configuration and program files go.  And where your logs and such are.  /home is where your personal configuration and files will be.
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> rishi: You can get details in #ubuntu+1 too.
[04:12] <shiv> am I just imagining things or the audio in linux appears actually better than windows?
[04:13] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> how do I get it back ?
[04:13] <mytruehero> I'm afraid I'm stumped here... I'm trying to curl a URL that includes an ampersand, but the result of "curl http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1&b=2" is just "http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1" that is, it only grabs everything before the first ampersand
[04:13] <intelikey> am3r1ca if you leave them alone it wont do a thing to them
[04:13] <Rower> apt-get update
[04:13] <rishi> so if i download and install dapper flight 5...once it becomes a release, will it update it automatically, or will i have to reinstall?
[04:13] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok thanks
[04:13] <_jason> RemyLaptop: right click on the panel > add to panel > clock
[04:13] <nickrud> balu1, I don't even know if it's complicated, I just know enough to recognize different dialects
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> I can't get it to appear in the right most panel though....
[04:13] <Falstius> Generally, programs and logs won't get about 5GB, but 10 leaves plenty of room for temp files and a few big games if you lean that way.
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> only on the middle panel
[04:13] <lgc> _jason, I don't see any pertinent option (except perhaps "automatically save session changes", which is not selected)
[04:13] <intelikey> am3r1ca uf you tell cfdisk to delete them it will....  so use good sense.
[04:13] <balu1> nickrud: i c, well i just thot something was wrong when u said that PCI : 1 = agp, but im running a pci card
[04:13] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, after you get it back, right-click on it & select Move
[04:13] <Eleaf> Anybody know of any dns servers I can use?
[04:14] <freenodes> :(:::
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> Still can't move it to the right...
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> RemyLaptop: Drag and drop?
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> it will only move inside the middle top panel
[04:14] <freenodes> 4.2.2.2
[04:14] <Madpilot> Eleaf, your own ISP should supply those?
[04:14] <freenodes> 4.2.2.3
[04:14] <nalioth> lgc: i'm not sure where in your homedir it saves session info
[04:14] <Eleaf> yes
[04:14] <_jason> lgc: you can delete ~/.gnome2/session, I believe it's where it gets stored
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> Moving it doesn't work either...
[04:14] <freenodes> that was for eleaf
[04:14] <Eleaf> Madpilot, but I need some more, I don't even want to explain my situation, sorry
[04:14] <intelikey> am3r1ca don't forget to write to disk before you exit.
[04:14] <Eleaf> alright
[04:14] <Eleaf> freenodes, those work?
[04:14] <lewix>  how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:14] <Madpilot> Eleaf, no idea, sorry
[04:14] <lgc> _jason, nalioth, thanks. Let me check that out...
[04:14] <freenodes> yep theyre some big provider
[04:15] <Eleaf> Madpilot, yea,  it's such a big thing, it would take forever to explain
[04:15] <Eleaf> thanks freenodes !
[04:15] <Eleaf> I'll try them now
[04:15] <rishi> wait, so if i d/l dapper flight 5, will it update to release?
[04:15] <lewix>  how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default or how can i uninstall xine
[04:15] <nickrud> balu1, like I said, I can recognize dialects, but context matters: ok , it's 2. sorry. Not the first time I've gotten details wrong, won't be the last. Heh.
[04:15] <nalioth> rishi: yes it will
[04:15] <broberts> mytruehero: Did you try to backslash it?  http://foo.com/bar.php\?a=1\?b=2
[04:15] <_jason> lewix: in firefox you mean?
[04:15] <rishi> sweet...one more question...does dapper 5 have all the xgl goodness?
[04:16] <lewix> jason yes
[04:16] <nalioth> rishi: it does not. you can add it, tho
[04:16] <am3r1ca> intelikey i think i found whats wrong, in the cfdisk comand the fat 32 is sda6, and in fstab its sda7
[04:16] <rishi> ah...okay, i think i saw that tutorial on digg
[04:16] <lewix> _jason, that's exactly what i mean
[04:16] <am3r1ca> sda 7 in cfdisk is swap
[04:16] <am3r1ca> thats why it didnt find anything
[04:16] <lgc> _jason, Bingo! It actually was the one from a month ago. Thanks!
[04:16] <am3r1ca> :)
[04:16] <intelikey> am3r1ca that'll do it.
[04:16] <balu1> nickrud: the only reason i was concerned is, if i defined my card as something it isnt, it could cause probs
[04:17] <_jason> lewix: hrmm, I don't know what package provides the xine plug-in.  You've installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer already?
[04:17] <am3r1ca> so now i just have to edit fstab corresponding with the info in the cfdisk ??
[04:17] <mytruehero> broberts: that works. thanks :)
[04:17] <TheWrench> ok, so: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 10GB (ext3) for /, 15GB (ext3) for /home, 110GB (fat32) for media.
[04:17] <balu1> nickrud: well thnks for ur help anyway man..that was alot of time.
[04:17] <rishi> have you guys played with the xgl xororaa or whatever
[04:17] <rishi> good lord
[04:17] <rishi> its sweet
[04:17] <balu1> appreciate it*
[04:18] <TheWrench> now, how do I go about creating an ext3 partition?
[04:18] <intelikey> am3r1ca that is not what was giving the error can not open sda7  message in fdisk -l   it should NOT report on non-existant partitions.  so  there is a test you can use.
[04:18] <rishi> but nothing is more nub friendly than ubuntu...and i am one of those.
[04:18] <Falstius> TheWrench, don't forget 1 GB for swap space (that is what Linux uses when it runs out of RAM).
[04:18] <nalioth> rishi: once you go to dapper, discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <rishi> okay...thanks nalioth...i really appreciate the help.
[04:18] <lewix> yes I installed mozilla-mplayer..I think i installed mplayer a long time ago , I;m not sure though . How can I check it out
[04:19] <intelikey> TheWrench with the ubuntu installer maybe ?
[04:19] <Falstius> TheWrench: do you have a blank disk now?  It is easier to install windows first and Linux second.  You can create empty partitions in the windows install and then format them during the Linux install.
[04:19] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fall out?
[04:19] <mordof> how do i grab all the dependancies for a package?
[04:19] <cleit0n> hi, how i install one modem intel 537 in kubuntu?
[04:19] <TheWrench> ok.  Anything else like that that I might need to know (the swap space)?
[04:19] <_jason> lewix: try running 'mplayer' in a terminal would be one way.  Put ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:19] <intelikey> TheWrench sudo cfdisk if you are in linux and this is another drive.
[04:19] <nickrud> balu1, I was multitasking, but np. You have the right xorg, get a decent log showing 1024x768
[04:19] <TheWrench> the drive crashed, i am writing zeros to it now
[04:19] <nalioth> mordof: apt-get does it for you
[04:20] <mordof> nalioth, i wan't to compile the package from source
[04:20] <OmegaAlpha> ve, no i had a kernel upgrade and didnt know that i had to restart the computer for it to finish i guess upgrading.. but i didnt see the upgrade in the upgrade menu.. so i dont think whatever it did.. didnt work haha
[04:20] <_jason> lewix: also, can you prefix your messages with '_jason' please so that I don't miss them
[04:20] <mordof> there is a newer version than the repos have
[04:20] <TheWrench> I am on a different (windows) computer now
[04:20] <ITSa341> Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?
[04:20] <pvd2006> I noticed in the Ubuntu documentation to install Limewire it had this link, but the link is now broken does anyone know where to get limewire for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <percent_20> what is the config file for aptget?
[04:21] <lewix> _jason, thanks again. hmm so I just time ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:21] <ITSa341> pvd2006  Limewire.com
[04:21] <intelikey> TheWrench i don't use swap.  if you want to use swap partition 2x ram is plenty  on all newer systems.   1x ram for those with 1g+ ram
[04:21] <Falstius> TheWrench, you should probably put the partitions in the right order, something like C:, /, swap, extended(D:, /home, media)
[04:21] <ITSa341> pvd2006   the stock Limewire release works just fine in Ubuntu 5.10  I run it myself
[04:21] <pvd2006> Ill check it
[04:21] <_jason> lewix: just run the command and copy and paste to that site, then give me a link
[04:21] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i unmounted and did fsck it now says /Unfinished DLs Contains a free cluster (275286). Assuming EOF. Reserved field in VFAT long filename slot is not 0 (but 0xa7). 1: Fix. 2. leave it
[04:21] <pvd2006> Oh ok
[04:22] <pvd2006> no spyware/adware?
[04:22] <ITSa341> Nope
[04:22] <intelikey> but of course you could have 2g ram and 100g swap if you want it.
[04:22] <pvd2006> ok cool
[04:22] <Falstius> intelikey: why don't you use swap?  you've never had a runaway proccess eat all your memory and cause a kernel panic?
[04:22] <pvd2006> Thanks
[04:22] <nalioth> pvd2006: use frostwire if you don't want any chance of spyware adware
[04:22] <percent_20> how can i enable restricted repos?
[04:22] <ITSa341> pvd2006  It worked flawlessly for me
[04:22] <intelikey> Falstius oom killer takes care of that.
[04:23] <percent_20> !nonfree
[04:23] <Myrth> hi, apt-get upgrade says that libapr0 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-common apache2-utils libpq4 can't be authenticated - is it a problem?
[04:23] <ubotu> percent_20: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <ITSa341> pvd2006 Frostwire is almost identical and it's in the repositories
[04:23] <percent_20> !non-free
[04:23] <ubotu> percent_20: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <TheWrench> I have 500MB ram, so 1GB swap sounds good to me.
[04:23] <pvd2006> Ohhh ok.
[04:23] <pvd2006> That will work
[04:23] <lgc> _jason, do you know how
[04:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: system -> administration -> synaptic -> settings -> repos -> settings
[04:23] <intelikey> Falstius and if it didn't it wouldn't matter how much swap you had it would still fill it all up and panic anyway.
[04:23] <jakedahn> Hey, can someone upload to pastebin, what the /etc/apt/sources.list looks like for Dapper?
[04:23] <rohan> RemyLaptop: you still struggling with the clock???
[04:23] <_jason> lgc: sorry, how what?
[04:23] <ITSa341> Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?
[04:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: check the box 'show disabled repos'
[04:23] <pvd2006> is it under mutliverse?
[04:24] <Falstius> intelikey: takes longer :)
[04:24] <lgc> _jason, sorry. Do you know how can I add elements to the Gnome menus?
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: Then go back to the 'repos' window and enable them all.
[04:24] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fix?  you must decide
[04:24] <ITSa341> pvd2006  I'm not sure which repo and not running my Ubuntu machine right now
[04:24] <_jason> lgc: system tools > applications menu editor
[04:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell percent_20 about repos
[04:24] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I don't know the history of the drive, or the sensitivity of the data
[04:24] <TheWrench> Falstius: you are saying I must create the partitions is a specific order?
[04:24] <percent_20> PuMpErNiCkLe:swee thank you
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: np :)
[04:24] <Rower> When im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D
[04:25] <OmegaAlpha> ve can you message me
[04:25] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10171
[04:25] <Falstius> TheWrench: no, but there are limitations.  If you put / too far back on the disk grub won't work (atleast older versions wouldn't, I haven't tried with the latest and greatest).
[04:25] <percent_20> nalioth: thank you coouldn't remember multivers or universe ty
[04:25] <carny> !ati
[04:25] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:25] <Falstius> but Windows wants to install on the first partition, so it helps to make linux the second.
[04:25] <_jason> lewix: get rid of kaffeine-mozilla package
[04:25] <carny> !ati rage pro
[04:26] <ubotu> carny: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <crxyem> well, my / is pretty much the last partition and no problems here
[04:26] <lewix> it was told to install it in the wiki
[04:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carny about ati
[04:26] <Falstius> crxyem: on a 200 GB disk?
[04:26] <_jason> lewix: link?
[04:26] <lewix> _jason, I don't know how to get rid of it
[04:26] <intelikey> Falstius yeah.... and i have one box with no usb and every linux i have installed on it yet, boots to a point where it sets up usb and "runs away" there,  if it has to fill swap it takes a long time for it to oomK and continue the boot,  without swap about 5 minutes.   so  there are pros & cons  to everything.
[04:26] <crxyem> um, oops a 40GB
[04:26] <lewix> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6766cd689854da82b6ce8c6563b42f617e426398
[04:26] <balu1> nickrud: what did u say bout refresh rates? did they ahve to be a minimu of a #hz?
[04:26] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I msg'd..you there?
[04:27] <_jason> lewix: use synaptic or just do: sudo aptitude remove kaffeine-mozilla
[04:27] <OmegaAlpha> yeah i didnt get it
[04:27] <am3r1ca> intelikey it mounted, thanks alot
[04:27] <intelikey> am3r1ca np    welcome
[04:27] <lewix> _jason, thanks. It's done
[04:27] <_jason> lewix: restart firefox and it should be using mplayer
[04:28] <lgc> _jason, I can't find exactly that. What seems more like it is "system > preferences > menus and toobars" (well, more or less. I'm translating from Spanish).
[04:28] <lewix> what happened to xine
[04:28] <ve> OmegaAlpha, odd...I'm using gaim...dunno what the prob could be
[04:28] <pvd2006> :-\ I dont see frostwire on the list
[04:28] <lewix> _jason, what happened to xine ?
[04:28] <intelikey> so anyone know an easy way to auto launch an app when twm starts ?
[04:28] <pvd2006> im searching through, "ALL"
[04:28] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i sent you a message did you get it?
[04:28] <nalioth> intelikey: .twcrc ?
[04:28] <_jason> lewix: you still have xine if you had it before, just not the kaffeine plugin for firefox
[04:29] <nickrud> balu1, if you want to check that idea of mine, drop the horizsync 10%, & the vertfresh 20%.
[04:29] <nalioth> intelikey: er, .twmrc
[04:29] <ve> OmegaAlpha, nope...afraid not
[04:29] <_jason> lgc: it should be in applications menu > system tools, the command is 'smeg' if you want to run it form a terminal
[04:29] <intelikey> nalioth just make one ?    with the command i want to run in it ?
[04:29] <lewix> _jason,  I just restarted mozilla but xine is still set as the default player
[04:29] <OmegaAlpha> ve, no i think my xchat is messed up
[04:29] <balu1> nickrud: k ill take a look
[04:29] <crimsun> intelikey: ping
[04:29] <nickrud> balu1, most hypotheses never see the light of day
[04:29] <_jason> lewix: hrmm, pastebin the same ls command from before again
[04:29] <ve> OmegaAlpha, use AIM/MSN/Yahoo...could use one of those
[04:29] <Falstius> crxyem: I was looking for the GRUB boot partition limit but can't find it .. I think its like 80GB but that's just a guess.
[04:29] <nalioth> intelikey: there probably is no such thing as a .twmrc, i just said it to make you think
[04:29] <intelikey> crimsun you good with alsa problems ?
[04:30] <crimsun> intelikey: as long as hardware isn't the culprit
[04:30] <_jason> lewix: wait, when you say mozilla, do you actually mean mozilla or firefox?
[04:30] <balu1> nickrud: absolutley no reason for this to not work i muts be doing something or the other wrong
[04:30] <balu1> nickrud: i had to define most of the xorg myself to set voodoo as primary vid card over my integrated vid card
[04:30] <Falstius> intelikey: is oomK a standard part of the kernel or does it need to be installed and configured?
[04:30] <ITSa341> balu1   got your email and will send you info in the morning
[04:30] <balu1> itsaa341: im glad
[04:31] <balu1> itsa341: im glad ;)
[04:31] <intelikey> crimsun i've had it working under ubuntu before but this time i cant seem to get it to work....  alsamixer E: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:31] <intelikey> Falstius default afik
[04:31] <balu1> nickrud: holy shit i dno wha ti did but its working at 1024 res :x
[04:31] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I could try trillian's irc on my windows laptop...but, I dunno I'm feeling lazy :P
[04:31] <lewix> _jason, firefox
[04:31] <pvd2006> I am just going to download limewire. they only have it as RPM, hmmm.
[04:31] <lewix> sorry
[04:31] <pvd2006> oh well, good time to learn that.
[04:31] <OmegaAlpha> ve, anyways i got another message asking if i want to fix numbering (truncating long name to a short name, delete LFN or ignore
[04:31] <lewix> _jason, I forgot the site to paste stuff
[04:31] <crimsun> intelikey: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:31] <balu1> nickrud: i reconfigured xserver.. wtf this is cooky.. so how can i see if direct rendering works now?
[04:31] <nickrud> balu1, you got the right values into xorg.conf. save that one as your acell
[04:31] <jasonkang86> umm...
[04:31] <_jason> lewix: it's in /topic but it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:31] <nickrud> *accel
[04:31] <ITSa341> pvd2006  get the "other" version
[04:32] <OmegaAlpha> lol i dont know how to use yahoo messenger or msn to message someone on irc
[04:32] <jquixote> anyone running an ati mobility x300 ?
[04:32] <jasonkang86> can we use Linux Ubuntu to learn how to hack?
[04:32] <balu1> nickrud: cant i just leave this as my permanent xorg? i dont mind it
[04:32] <nickrud> balu1, glxconfig | grep direct
[04:32] <Rower> When im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D
[04:32] <lewix> _jason, isn't mozilla the same as firefox ?
[04:32] <OmegaAlpha> i know how to sign on irc with gaim but im already signed here with xchat
[04:32] <intelikey> crimsun you want that pastebined or is there a specific line you want ?
[04:32] <ve> OmegaAlpha, no worries....
[04:32] <Falstius> intelikey: okay ... I was doing some reading up.  Now that I know what it is, I've seen this in action before when it couldn't find any proccesses to kill to free memory and then still kernel panicked (that was some really badly configured machine)
[04:32] <crimsun> intelikey: pastebinned, please
[04:32] <_jason> lewix: there's also a mozilla web browser
[04:32] <balu1> nickrud: glxconfig: command not found? err..
[04:32] <ve> OmegaAlpha, sounds like good stuff to fix....
[04:32] <Xenguy> nickrud: Hi again - I think I got that OOo problem mostly licked, thanks to some kind soul on the OOo channel...
[04:32] <pvd2006> ah alright found it
[04:33] <jasonkang86> can we learn how to hack?
[04:33] <jquixote> balu1: you need fglrx installed
[04:33] <lewix> _jason, Im talking about firefox web browser
[04:33] <ollie> hi all
[04:33] <nickrud> balu1, glxinfo, I'm busy (listening to chatter on the phone)
[04:33] <intelikey> crimsun actually its only 2 lines "0 [AD1816A        ] : AD1816A - ADI SoundPort AD1816A                ADI SoundPort AD1816A, SS at 0x100, irq 5, dma 1&0"
[04:33] <_jason> lewix: k
[04:33] <ve> OmegaAlpha, obviously it recognizes the file system.....good sign
[04:33] <percent_20> is there going to be an pudate for badger to gnome 2.14 when it comes out?
[04:33] <Xenguy> nickrud: it was much simpler solution than I expected :-)
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: glxinfo WOOOOOOOOOOOO directrendering on! we have 3d accel! LIFTOFF
[04:33] <iGotNoTime> Does anyone here use Meebo.com?
[04:33] <nickrud> balu1, ok!
[04:33] <jquixote> what is glxconfig? I thought it was aticonfig
[04:33] <Xenguy> nickrud: anyway styles are our friend I think
[04:33] <iGotNoTime> I am not advertising, my question goes further into depth
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: THANK YOU man. serously.
[04:33] <jon_> 
[04:33] <nickrud> Xenguy, they usually are, we are blind (and lazy, in this case)
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: can i add a snippet to your wikki??
[04:33] <crimsun> intelikey: ok. Does ``alsamixer -c0'' work?
[04:33] <_jason> jon_: /join #ubuntu-zh
[04:34] <jasonkang86> jon_: here all european
[04:34] <Xenguy> nickrud: I was overcomplicating things in this case
[04:34] <nickrud> balu1, please. that was the first one I did, sort of as a test. It needs work.
[04:34] <jasonkang86> me chinese
[04:34] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I think I'm having issues of my own...I'll brb
[04:34] <jasonkang86> XD
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, yeah but looks like i got alot of errors
[04:34] <intelikey> crimsun alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:0: No such file or directory
[04:34] <ve> gonna reboot
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, im still answering alot of questions fixing stuff
[04:34] <crimsun> intelikey: lsmod output, please
[04:34] <balu1> nickrud: lovely :) i get to contribute back to the community!
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok
[04:34] <iGotNoTime> does anyone have a suggestion for displaying a live webpage as my desktop background?
[04:35] <pvd2006> Itsa341: ok I found the other Limewire download how do I install it again? I am pretty new to linux forgot which command to use
[04:35] <intelikey> !paste
[04:35] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:35] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: change your nick to MultimediaMan :-)
[04:35] <ITSa341> pvd2006  this is the version I use (click the "other OS2 solaris, linux)
[04:35] <Blippe> iGotNoTime, doesn't gdesklet have that feature?
[04:35] <iGotNoTime> Xenguy ??
[04:35] <lgc> _jason, the closest I get is "applications > system tools > configuration editor", but it lists a myriad of options, not just (and not) the few ones I have on the menu. On the other hand, "smeg" doesn't exist on my system (I'm on good old Hoary).
[04:35] <pvd2006> yes
[04:35] <lewix> _jason, please don't forget me lol
[04:35] <pvd2006> that is the one I downloaded
[04:35] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I don't know, does it?
[04:35] <ITSa341> go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh
[04:36] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I will search
[04:36] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: humour'; there must be a way tho
[04:36] <Blippe> i think so...
[04:36] <_jason> lewix: did you pastebin that ls command?
[04:36] <ITSa341> pvd2006 go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh
[04:36] <crxyem> so anyone familiar with acpi and resulting issues with samba
[04:36] <iGotNoTime> Xenguy sorry just a littel tired :)
[04:36] <balu1> wow fixing stuff in linux is way more frustrating + gratifying than windows ;p
[04:36] <_jason> lgc: install smeg, I think it is in hoary repos.  Let me know if you can't find it
[04:36] <TheWrench> so, in order:
[04:36] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10173
[04:36] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: ahh, me too actually :-)
[04:36] <TheWrench> C:      25GB  (NTFS) for windows
[04:36] <ITSa341> pvd2006 there should be a readme or a txt file with instructions
[04:36] <intelikey> crimsun that's just the snd portion.
[04:36] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10174
[04:36] <Falstius> TheWrench, don't paste them to their own lines ...
[04:36] <TheWrench> ok
[04:37] <TheWrench> sorry
[04:37] <crimsun> intelikey: k, entire lsmod output, please
[04:37] <_jason> lewix: you sure you closed all instances of firefox?
[04:37] <Alex2> I am new to Ubuntu and have tried the LiveCD on an emachine with wireless, everything worked but the wireless, any hints...I am leary of trying the full install if the woreless will not work.
[04:38] <lewix> sure
[04:38] <lgc> _jason, "smeg" seems not to be on the repositories.
[04:38] <cleit0n> ae uma duvida os procedimentos pra instalar um modem intel num ubuntu seria o mesmo num debian? ou muda?
[04:38] <OmegaAlpha> what does it mean when fsck asks you if you want to drop a directory?
[04:38] <lewix> _jason, I'm sure
[04:38] <rishi> guys, where do i go to download dapper
[04:39] <_jason> lewix: 'killall firefox-bin' just to be certain
[04:39] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10175
[04:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rishi about upgrade
[04:39] <intelikey> don't know what differance that makes but there ya are.
[04:39] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I changed the theme on my system, and now the icon for the trash can has dissapeared... any ideaS?
[04:39] <Falstius> Portuguese?
[04:39] <_jason> !pt
[04:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:39] <techrush>  its garbage day
[04:39] <_jason> lgc: you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:39] <Blippe> Alex2, you might wanna try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25398.html
[04:39] <techrush> trash truck must have thrown away your can
[04:40] <techrush> :(
[04:40] <rishi> nalioth...ubotu didn't tell me
[04:40] <rishi> haha
[04:40] <TheWrench> so, inorder. C: (25GB NTFS) for windows, / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32).
[04:40] <nalioth> rishi: look at your private messages
[04:40] <lewix> _jason, the same result..it doesnt work
[04:40] <crxyem> hello any help with acpi issues ?
[04:40] <rishi> woah.
[04:40] <lgc> _jason, yes.
[04:40] <Falstius> TheWrench: that should work happily.  How much RAM do you have?
[04:40] <_jason> lewix: it still loads xine?
[04:41] <lewix> _jason, yep
[04:41] <bassinboy> ok, my dns report shows I have Lame nameservers, what file do I edit to delete those
[04:41] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, ve, here
[04:41] <TheWrench> Falstius:and to do this, I install windows first, leaving blank partitions, then install ubuntu?
[04:41] <lewix> _jason, can't I just uninstall xine ?
[04:41] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, welcome back
[04:41] <TheWrench> Falstius:500megs
[04:41] <Guest63120> where is the download directory of lynx
[04:41] <TylerWalts> Hi, I was trying to follow the Ubuntu starter guide to install Java Firefox plugin:  (sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5) but then it gives an error:  "E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate
[04:41] <TylerWalts> " - am I missing a repository or something?
[04:41] <Falstius> TheWrench: that is the easiest way.  You should probably make a 1GB partition for "swap" too.
[04:41] <MrRio> opening beagle search, in the about window just says 'Desktop Search 0.0'
[04:41] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: anjuta
[04:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluefoxicy
[04:41] <_jason> lewix: wel you removed the plugin, do this and pastebin and results: 'locate kaffeineplugin.so'
[04:41] <Falstius> It can go anywhere.
[04:41] <crimsun> intelikey: the 'sound' (OSS/Free) module is loaded. Please unload it and all the ALSA modules, then reload the ALSA ad1816a driver (modprobe -r sound snd-ad1816a && modprobe snd-ad1816a)
[04:42] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, I'm using trillian now...sent you a msg...I take it you didn't receive it still?
[04:42] <nalioth> Guest63120: the directory that you start it from
[04:42] <_jason> in Hoary, wasn't smeg available in the repos?  which one?
[04:42] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, nope sorry
[04:42] <RemyLaptop> !smeg
[04:42] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[04:42] <Blippe> TheWrench,  C: (24GB NTFS) for windows, e: (1gig ntfs) for virtual memory, (swap) (1gig) / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32)
[04:42] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, what is the context of the word 'drop' when using fsck?
[04:42] <intelikey> crimsun done,   same error.
[04:42] <_jason> lgc: see ubotu's message above I guess.  But I could have sworn it was in the repos :)
[04:43] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, im getting alot of messages asking if i want to drop directories and files
[04:43] <crimsun> intelikey: and /proc/asound/cards still reports the ad1816a as valid?
[04:43] <Blippe> TheWrench, why 40 gig warez?
[04:43] <lewix> _jason,  I installed the mozilla-kaffein package at the same time I installed mozzilla-firefox. Xine was already installed
[04:43] <nalioth> _jason: it was not available, iirc
[04:43] <Falstius> Blippe: probably DVD images of games ...
[04:43] <lewix> _jason, then I installed w32codecs
[04:43] <Blippe> Falstius, why not put them in a 150gig media?
[04:43] <intelikey> crimsun just a sec... re trying and got this.   devfs_remove: sound/audio not found, cannot remove
[04:44] <_jason> lewix: ok check 'about:plugins' in the firefox url bar and see if it is using mplayer or not
[04:44] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, not good, I believe that deletes
[04:44] <TheWrench> Blippe, Flastius: i have lots of large windows applications.  Actually, no games.
[04:44] <intelikey> crimsun and    "pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 01:01.01.     ad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure "
[04:44] <Falstius> Blippe, you can't mount fat32 as folders in NTFS, you can with NTFS/NTFS?  I dunno.
[04:44] <lgc> _jason, I'm on it.
[04:44] <intelikey> now check the card crimsun ?
[04:44] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i got a message saying one of my music files has a bad file name and wants to know if i want to drop the file, or rename it, auto rename it, or keep it... these are the kind of messages im getting.. alot of them
[04:45] <jquixote> anyone notice how ubuntu and digg are such good friends?
[04:45] <Xenguy> I can dig it :-)
[04:45] <crimsun> intelikey: ah. Please forcibly unload ALSA: invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload
[04:45] <Blippe> Falstius, i thought you could with fat, shows what i know!
[04:45] <jakedahn> ok, who here is running dapper?
[04:45] <intelikey> crimsun ok
[04:45] <jakedahn> anyone?
[04:45] <laggerzero> Hello, I'm running into some troubles with dapper (yeah I know it's alpha)
[04:45] <laggerzero> me
[04:45] <_jason> jakedahn: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[04:45] <TheWrench> Blippe: i wanted the media partition to contain files that i would use from both operating systems
[04:45] <laggerzero> and the problem is not XGL!
[04:45] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, might want to google the text of the error.....I don't have experience with that one
[04:45] <Blippe> jakedahn,  try #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, like right now.. all my files names have changed.. and i cant see them how i used to.. like there are more. and the names are of ascii characters.. really mumbo jumbo... and the same with the sub directories
[04:45] <fatehaze> jakedahn, #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <SlicerDicer> can somebody help me figure out why when I try to sudo it says "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname ()"
[04:45] <jakedahn> kk
[04:46] <laggerzero> i'm getting some tcltk errors
[04:46] <_jason> SlicerDicer: put the contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:46] <jquixote> my ubuntu is so slow
[04:46] <intelikey> crimsun k that seems to have worked. now ?
[04:46] <OmegaAlpha> does ubuntu have a remoter terminal like program?
[04:46] <Xenguy> jquixote: define slow; what hardware?
[04:46] <laggerzero> __main__.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[04:46] <SlicerDicer> _jason: I can tell you whats there hehe :)
[04:46] <laggerzero> anyone know what that means?
[04:46] <OmegaAlpha> i can let you see it lol its messy
[04:46] <_jason> SlicerDicer: that works too
[04:46] <crimsun> intelikey: please confirm no ALSA modules are loaded (``lsmod|grep ^snd'' -> nothing)
[04:47] <laggerzero> i get that on every app that tries to use tcl tk
[04:47] <jquixote> Xenguy: mobility x300; dell D810
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> there are errors with the clusters on the drive.. i dont really know what a cluster is..
[04:47] <crimsun> intelikey: and neither ad1816 nor sound are loaded
[04:47] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, you mean a graphical or a textbased?
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> _jason: '127.0.0.1 hostname' for /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname its 'hostname'
[04:47] <Xenguy> jquixote: that is hardware-speak to me
[04:47] <jquixote> Xenguy: I fear I didn't install fglrx correctly or something
[04:47] <intelikey> crimsun confirmed
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> for example i cant resize or move the partition because it comes up with too many errors and stops itself
[04:47] <Xenguy> jquixote: I stand aside for this question :-)
[04:47] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: build
[04:47] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[04:47] <TheWrench> Blippe: well, no, but I don't have that much media either...
[04:47] <crimsun> intelikey: ok. Does ``modprobe snd-ad1816a'' still return a PnP error?
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, as in what? what the files look like?
[04:48] <jquixote> Xenguy: you wanted me to tell you the hardware
[04:48] <jquixote> I thought
[04:48] <intelikey> ad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure
[04:48] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, as in the remote terminal...
[04:48] <intelikey> crimsun ^
[04:48] <_jason> SlicerDicer: I would think it would work like that, but my hosts looks like: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost hostname
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> ubotu please give more detail, like saying that I could also apt-get source something essentials and then apt-get -b and have it install all needed build packages and build the package automaticalyl.
[04:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, bluefoxicy
[04:48] <Xenguy> jquixote: yes, you did, and I realize I can't help, so others must come forth
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> somebody make whatever i said make sense
[04:48] <OmegaAlpha> and then itll say that there are too many lost clusters or something liek that
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> and tell ubotu
[04:48] <SlicerDicer> _jason: ahh ok
[04:48] <laggerzero> anyone have any idea?
[04:48] <SlicerDicer> _jason: time to livecd again :)
[04:48] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, doesnt matter to me.. either or
[04:48] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, then you're facing a similar bug to Malone #11868
[04:48] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I am new to Gdesklets, I have the engine installed and running but where do I begin looking for packages that work with it?
[04:49] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10176
[04:49] <jquixote> others: come forth, be plentiful
[04:49] <_jason> SlicerDicer: make sure no typos and nothing extra in the files (newlines maybe)
[04:49] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, ssh and/or vnc
[04:49] <crimsun> intelikey: Have you tried Dapper Flight 4 and Dapper Flight 5 live cds?
[04:49] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, if i view the harddrive via terminal it still shows the crazy file names and how everythign has changed
[04:49] <intelikey> crimsun i'm on dialup.
[04:49] <intelikey> short answer no.
[04:49] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  any idea for a repo with dapper-ready anjuta 2.0.1?
[04:49] <SlicerDicer> _jason: yeah I just never had to do it like that before with other distros so I was not familar I will give it a shot see what happens
[04:49] <_jason> lewix: 'locate gxineplugin.so'
[04:49] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, umm whats vnc?
[04:49] <Blippe> iGotNoTime, not really sure, quite some time ago since i last used it
[04:50] <balu1> nickrud: blahh cant edit ur wiki. ubuntu keeps giving me some log in bs
[04:50] <crimsun> intelikey: still on Hoary, or using Breezy?
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I know you guys have like 6 billion repos around :>
[04:50] <intelikey> crimsun but i have had the sound working on this 5.4 before on this box.
[04:50] <vejan> question?????
[04:50] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, vnc is similar to remote desktop
[04:50] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10177
[04:50] <vercellone> not secure or encrypted though
[04:50] <Xenguy>  /xngy trs t tlk wth n vwls...
[04:50] <laggerzero> i wasn't all to impressed with breezy
[04:50] <laggerzero> I had so many issues with it
[04:50] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, oh how do i check to see which one i have if i do have any
[04:50] <crxyem> so anyone wanna answer an acpi Q ? ?
[04:50] <iGotNoTime> Blippe, no big deal found a huge resource :) thx again for the tip
[04:50] <vercellone> if connecting over public internet, you should use vnc
[04:51] <vejan> firefox will not connect to sun.com to get java
[04:51] <vercellone> er, ssh
[04:51] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: not that I'm aware (at least not one blessed by archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:51] <vercellone> doh
[04:51] <laggerzero> mainly because it seemed it was have gcc 4.0 and the other half gcc 3.4
[04:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vejan about javadebs
[04:51] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha,  a program that providing remote access to the GUI, keyboard and mouse
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  seveas has some stuff laying around, the rest of you don't have anything?
[04:51] <V4Vendetta> laggerzero, that's not a problem ..
[04:51] <_jason> lewix: k, see where gxineplugin.so is with 'locate gxineplugin.so'
[04:51] <lewix> _jason, it's loading
[04:51] <laggerzero> it is when you have hardware driver conflicts
[04:51] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: you need to run it tunnelled over SSH
[04:51] <nate_> anyone know of a good doc for creating preseed files for d-i for ubuntu?
[04:51] <crimsun> intelikey: do you happen to remember which kernel you were running when it did produce sound?
[04:51] <vejan> THANK U!!!!!
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid
[04:52] <intelikey> this one.
[04:52] <OmegaAlpha> oh i dont really know how to do that stuff.. i remember someone tellign me about tunneling
[04:52] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, if you are running ubuntu, you can enable vnc by going to System->Preferences->REmote Desktop
[04:52] <jquixote> here's a question.. My desktop locked up and I had to restart.. now my apt-get doesn't work.. complains that "E: Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:52] <intelikey> same 2.6.10-5-386 crimsun
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  acn you help me well-form this line?
[04:52] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: just find a HOWTO - you can use SSH tunneling for a lot of things
[04:52] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, if textbased is ok with you, you should look into ssh!
[04:52] <nate_> jquixote, is something else that uses it open?  like the updater in the taskbar?
[04:52] <vercellone> but, it listens on your external network interface by default....I'm trying to deal with that myself at the moment
[04:53] <jquixote> nevermind.. was doing a an update.. tanks nate
[04:53] <nate_> no problem :D
[04:53] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i enabled it
[04:53] <crimsun> intelikey: interesting. Have you added or removed any hardware?
[04:53] <laggerzero> hey I'm having some TCL TK issues
[04:53] <SlicerDicer> _jason: still not working
[04:53] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, yeah thats what someone was telling me
[04:53] <laggerzero> is anyone else having them?
[04:53] <vercellone> SSH tunnelling rocks.....I use it to remote desktop to my laptop at home
[04:53] <nate_> so, anyone know of any good docs for preseeding the debian-installer in ubuntu? :D
[04:53] <jquixote> but I did have that problem before, and then just rm-ed the cache
[04:54] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, i was asking the one day about doing networking stuff and thats when someone brought up putty and ssh and tunneling and being able to access my computer from anywhere
[04:54] <intelikey> crimsun nope.  that is what is throwing me.... it is not a wh issus in as much as it still works the same on other os's
[04:54] <vercellone> Blippe, do you know where I can set vino-server command line options?
[04:54] <_jason> SlicerDicer: try a different hostname (in other words I don't know :))
[04:54] <Francisco> anyone. can  help me. I junt wanna know how to insert a picture on kile. LATEX
[04:54] <vercellone> Blippe, I want to either pass it the localhost option, or bind to a specific interface
[04:54] <crimsun> intelikey: /proc/interrupts contents?
[04:54] <jquixote> you know this gaim aint so bad for irc
[04:54] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, there's an app that's not available in ubuntu repos, but it integrates ssh and vnc in one app, it's prety nice
[04:54] <intelikey> sec
[04:55] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, text or gui doesnt matter.. whatever is easier first i guess since im kinda a newbie i havnt been using linux long.. and dont know much about networking.
[04:55] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you need to state the candidate(s), like main contrib non-free
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: so you are looking for VNC tunneled over SSH?
[04:55] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think it's ne...something
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  thanks.
[04:55] <lewix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10179
[04:55] <_jason> SlicerDicer: what is your actual hostname?  it's not 'hostname' right?
[04:55] <intelikey> crimsun unless you want them all  "  5:          2          XT-PIC  AD1816A"
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: if yes, use x11vnc
[04:55] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10179
[04:55] <crxyem> so anyone wanna help with an acpi issue
[04:55] <crimsun> intelikey: all would be most helpful
[04:55] <zedzero_> hellp
[04:55] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, so it integrates both text and gui together?
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: a bit of a pain to configure, I thought, but do-able...
[04:55] <nate_> crxyem, i would, but i wouldn't be very helpful
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe anjuta-common 1.2.4a-2 [5823kB] 
[04:56] <crxyem> lol
[04:56] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, yep :D
[04:56] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha:  I have an article somewhere
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  how do I force it to use sid ?
[04:56] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, i dont know what that means hehe.. i dont remember what tunneling isi remember it was kinda simple though
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> i am trying to crossbuild anjuta 2.0.1 here.
[04:56] <zedzero_> can anyone please help me?
[04:56] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think it will probably be in dapper though
[04:56] <_jason> lewix: thos are errors from your terminal after running locate gxineplugin.so?  did you get a chance to run 'sudo updatedb' before?
[04:56] <Blippe> vercellone,  i guess a hack would be to bind its port to a specific interface
[04:56] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10180
[04:56] <Francisco> some body knows how to use LaTex??
[04:56] <nate_> zedzero_, what's the problem?
[04:56] <nalioth> zedzero_: ask a question, please
[04:56] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: do you have a Dapper pbuilder configured?
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> pbuilder?
[04:57] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha,  try starting vino-preferences
[04:57] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, sounds cool i need to look into that as soon as i get this harddrive fixed so i can do all that networkign stuff that i want to do
[04:57] <CloFan> How do I navigate to my secondary disk drive?
[04:57] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, what's wrong with the drive?
[04:57] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: yeah, it'll be much easier to pbuilder build anjuta..dsc
[04:57] <percent_20> !64bit
[04:57] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_20
[04:57] <TheWrench> Blippe, Falstius: does swap need to be called /swap?
[04:57] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, but i don't know about its security
[04:57] <percent_20> !nvidia64bit
[04:57] <pvd2006> this is really weird, I Can't figure out my root password... How stupid is that....
[04:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_20
[04:57] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: basically it just means that you can encrypt various services you use over the Net; also you can forward one port to another, to circumvent firewalls, and so on
[04:57] <intelikey> CloFan is it mounted ?
[04:57] <crimson> any body know where i can get a halflife f4or linux
[04:57] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&page=7
[04:57] <Falstius> TheWrench: no, you format it as swap (instead of ext3, fat, etc)
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I have no idea what that is.  I'm just trying to grab http://packages.debian.org/experimental/gnome/anjuta with apt-get -b
[04:57] <crimson> or if they have it
[04:57] <zedzero_> to get rid of gnome, i installed ubuntu as server , afterwards i installed fluxbox, and some xserver things i dont know. but now i dont know how to get into graphical interface, im using a command line irc client
[04:58] <lewix> _jason, one moment I'm doing it right now
[04:58] <nate_> zedzero_, startx
[04:58] <CloFan> intelikey, it was in windows. my main drive failed and I replaced it and put linux on because I can't find my windows disk.
[04:58] <crimsun> intelikey: do you have anything attached to your printer port?
[04:58] <Blippe> TheWrench, no... let the install decide the for your swap...
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I added debian sid to sources.list and tried to tell it to apt-get build-dep anjuta and apt-get -b it.
[04:58] <zedzero_> nate, i tried that but it doesnt work. it says no such command exists
[04:58] <lewix> _jason, /usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <lewix> /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <lewix> /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  do you have a better recommendation?
[04:58] <lewix> oups sorry
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> ubotu pbuilder
[04:58] <ubotu> somebody said pbuilder was a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[04:58] <Falstius> zedzero_: startx
[04:58] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, what vino.. how do i start the prefernces? do you mean wine?
[04:58] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: wait, 2.x is in experimental, not unstable, correct?
[04:58] <lewix> I forgot to paste
[04:58] <intelikey> crimsun yes but not powered up.
[04:58] <nate_> zedzero_, what precisely are you trying to start up?  x?
[04:59] <zedzero_> nate, yes
[04:59] <bluefoxicy> cirmsun ah ok, so....?  Gimme some helph ere.
[04:59] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, how's that fsck going..did you finish?  Did your music files have ID3 tags, perhaps you can rename based on tags?
[04:59] <Xenguy> pvd2006: I love your original question - it's so honest :-)
[04:59] <nate_> zedzero_, give me a minute
[04:59] <zedzero_> nate, ok
[04:59] <CloFan> intelikey: how do I mount it in ubuntu?
[04:59] <pvd2006> XenGuy: lol
[04:59] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, press alt-f2 and write vino-preferences
[04:59] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, the entire partition got messed up during a resizing.. now all the directories and file names are different.. and there are more files than before and the drive doesnt look right in the partition programs. and i cant resize it or move it.. it says there are errors - bad clusters or soemthing
[04:59] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, vino-preferences just brings up the same thing as System->Preferences->RemoteDesktop
[05:00] <_smd_> I have gain v1.50 right now,  however i canot get any user info
[05:00] <crimsun> intelikey: could you disable lpt0 in bios and see if that permits the snd* modules to load successfully on boot?
[05:00] <Falstius> zedzero_: this probably doesn't help now, but most graphical apps in Linux use either gnome or kde libraries so you don't gain very much by not installing at least one of them :)
[05:00] <_jason> lewix: pastebin 'ls /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/ /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/ && dpkg -S /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so'
[05:00] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, i already enabled it
[05:00] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, time to reinstall my man.  You have to weigh the amount of work versus the benefits....
[05:00] <TheWrench> Blippe, Falstius: does media need to be called something like F:, not just media?
[05:00] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you can't pull it from unstable; you want to pull it from experimental
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Thers too many good gnome and kde aps out - to not install both. :P
[05:00] <zedzero_> falstius, i just wanted fluxbox because it was very lightweight
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I can't make this pull from experimental either :(
[05:01] <nate_> zedzero_, i would install gnome, but use fluxbox as your WM
[05:01] <lgc> _jason, as far as I see, "smeg" and "alacarte" come from the same site. By the way, according to the ubuntuforums page I would need to enable backports on "sources.list". But they say it's kind of risky (why?). I'm still puzzled that I just can't edit the silly thing from the menu. How about enabling an icon for an application present? (For example, "AbiWord" appears with a generic icon, that I would like to change).
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  it keeps preferring dapper
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i paused on it at the moment because i ketp getting alot of questions asking me to drop or rename the files.. and from what i seen in a file broswer.. there are shit loads of them.. ill be here all night
[05:01] <nate_> zedzero_, type 'ls -l /usr/bin/startx'
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> so i enabled vino now what
[05:01] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you should use 'deb-src http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free'
[05:01] <jquixote> How do I check what display I'm running in right  now, :0 or :1
[05:01] <jquixote> ?
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> yeah someone told me last case scenario was to reformat
[05:01] <intelikey> CloFan someone could help you with a GUI way of doing that.    in cli do a "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mountpoint "    where mountpoint is some dir you want to use /mnt/disk for example  and  hdb1 assumes it is now first ide slave drive....
[05:01] <nate_> jquixote, if you didn't change anything, then it's :0
[05:01] <Blippe> TheWrench, you have to mount it somewhere like /stuff,  I would recommend /home/media or /home/[username] /media
[05:02] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: then apt-get source -texperimental anjuta
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> but someone said there is a way to recover the data in here earlier
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  ah, I was just using deb-src http;//blahblahblah/debian experimental main
[05:02] <zedzero_> [A
[05:02] <jquixote> nate_: I changed all kinds of stuff ;0
[05:02] <jquixote> ;)
[05:02] <am3r1ca> HELP ?? anyone know why when i insert a torrent into Azureus it says setLengy failed and doesnt dl ???
[05:02] <nalioth> lgc: alacarte is the latest version of smeg. they are both from the same author
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> what is better anyways.. vnc or ssh?
[05:02] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, is it ext2?
[05:02] <_smd_> Also i hate amsn, but i like seeing user info,
[05:02] <_jason> lgc: smeg should allow you to edit icons.  Backports can be risky because they are packages brought from the new release in development.  For example, the firefox backport in hoary messed up people's firefox for a while.  It's probably ok to use now imo
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> vnc is the gui and ssh is the text bases
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, no fat32
[05:02] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, ssh is safest
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> OmegaAlpha,  totally different tools for differnt tasks
[05:02] <vercellone> ssh can be configured to be encrypted (very secure)
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:03] <nalioth> lgc: i've never enabled backports, but then again, i am not one to whom "newer is better" BLING
[05:03] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, unless you understand what you did, anyone in here will be hard-pressed to help you recover it.  I can point you to a forensics liveCD which can recover nearly anything as long as the drive spins, but it's complicated
[05:03] <Falstius> am3r1ca: maybe you're trying to download to somewhere without enough space or write permissions.
[05:03] <zedzero_> nate, i dont have that file :(
[05:03] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: orthogenal
[05:03] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10181
[05:03] <pvd2006> Besides re-installing linux, how can you obtain a new root password?
[05:03] <CloFan> intelikey: I foudn it in the Disk Manager, but the partitions are Windows NTFS.  Would that be a problem?
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about root
[05:03] <nate_> zedzero_, then you don't have x installed, likely, so trying to start x is impossible
[05:03] <zedzero_> ,nate, but i have startfluxbox, which doesnt work because it needs X to be started first
[05:03] <Falstius> nate_: a free one?  What is it (for future reference)?
[05:03] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: er, orthogonal
[05:03] <intelikey> crimsun yeah i can change the irq in the bios.    i can disable it for testing but it will have to be turned back on.  so if changing it wont work there is still a problem.   but that hasn't been tuched sense the last time sound was working in ubuntu
[05:03] <zedzero_> nate, thanks, how do i install x?
[05:03] <OmegaAlpha> lol sounds like complicated stuff well im a newbie to some of this stuff
[05:03] <intelikey> CloFan yes it sould
[05:03] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, ugh..FAT32 :(
[05:03] <nate_> Falstius, it is free: http://www.e-fense.com/helix
[05:03] <Falstius> zedzero_: try running "startx"
[05:04] <am3r1ca> Falstius i check, more than enough
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I broke it.
[05:04] <zedzero_> falstius, it doesnt work
[05:04] <_jason> lewix: 'rm /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so', restart firefox
[05:04] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, hope you backed up before resize
[05:04] <nalioth> zedzero_: installing a desktop environment would do it
[05:04] <Chris_C> does anyone know how to force a password change past the "too similar to old password" rejection?
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  it installed anjuta 1.4.2 from dapper or something and I ctrl+c'd it and it broke the dpkg database!  :O
[05:04] <TheWrench> Blippe, I don't know about mounting. I have never used linux, could you give more detail?
[05:04] <am3r1ca> Falstius, i am dling to a fat32 partiontion, so i can resume the dl when in windows
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> dpkg: error processing anjuta (--remove):
[05:04] <bluefoxicy>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[05:04] <bluefoxicy>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[05:04] <zedzero_> nalioth, isnt fluxbox a desktop environment?
[05:04] <pvd2006> Nalioth: thanks, I didn't remember entering a root password ever, I thought I was going crazy at first.
[05:04] <Falstius> zedzero_: I didn't think it would, but it might give us some errors to work from .. what does it say?
[05:05] <pvd2006> until now I mean
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> what happened was i ran out of space on a fat32 partition at the end of the drive, i use it for my p2p downloads.. so i went to resize it to be bigger and move it to the beginning of the drive..partition magic frozed during it.. and this is what happened
[05:05] <am3r1ca> but its wont start and says setLength failed !?!
[05:05] <intelikey> crimsun i'll go play with it some more.   thanks for all the effort.   i'll let you know if i get it.
[05:05] <nate_> zedzero_, fluxbox is a window manager, not a desktop environment
[05:05] <zedzero_> falstius, it doesnt exist :)
[05:05] <Falstius> zedzero, then you need to install xorg.
[05:05] <lgc> nalioth, _jason, thanks. But then how does an application installed by "apt-get" manages into the menu at all?
[05:05] <nate_> yep
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, is fat32 bad? i had to use a fat because i use windows to use my p2p sharing
[05:05] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, thanks
[05:05] <Blippe> TheWrench, when you install ubuntu it will ask you about the mountpoint, it will feel a wee bit natural... linux uses a "root" / for all the media instead of A: b: C: D: etx
[05:05] <Blippe> etc
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy,  what do you mean orthogonal
[05:05] <nate_> zedzero_, just install gnome then select fluxbox as your window manager
[05:05] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  the source line worked, how do I build it?
[05:06] <nalioth> lgc: the pkg has a set of instructions inside to place the components of the pkg into their respective places upon installation
[05:06] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, there are drivers for windows to read some linux filesystems that are far better than fat32
[05:06] <Falstius> zedzero_: There is probably a cleaner way to do it, but you can run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[05:06] <zedzero_> nate, im not sure i did understand, isnt fluxbox a total substitue of gnome or kde? does fluxbox need gnome or kde to work?
[05:06] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think Reiser just came out with one and I think there has been an ext3 and ext2 one for a while
[05:06] <lgc> nalioth, I surmise. But do you know some of the details?
[05:06] <nalioth> zedzero_: it does not
[05:06] <nalioth> lgc: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:06] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: make sure you have installed all the build-deps that are listed in debian/control:Build-Depends (or adjust them as necessary to fit what Dapper has), then ``debuild binary''
[05:06] <nate_> zedzero_, it needs xorg at least
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> sudo apt-get build-dep -texperimental anjuta anjuta-common
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, i thought the exts were only for linux.. i heard of the reiser ones though...
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  :)
[05:07] <CloFan> intelikey, thanks, I figured it out!
[05:07] <CryoTox> Anyone know of a app for ubuntu that I can create flash with?
[05:07] <zedzero_> nate, can you please tell me which packages i need to install to get xorg? (xorg doesnt work)
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  yes everytihng it grabbed came from dapper, not debian ;)
[05:07] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, exts ARE linux-use only, but there are drivers so windows can use them as well
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, its basically me using windows and downloading and having the fat32 fs just so i can be in linux and access them
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> windows can make use of ext2/3 with the right download. :P
[05:07] <lgc> nalioth, sure, but excuse the simple question. How? Something like /join #...?
[05:07] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: yeah, I can't generally recommend that with a mixed sources.list unless you have pinning enabled
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, crap wish i knew that earlier haha
[05:08] <nalioth> lgc: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <lewix> ouah
[05:08] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, you live, you learn :D
[05:08] <nate_> zedzero_, lemme look
[05:08] <lewix> _jason,  thanks
[05:08] <lewix> _jason,  thanks thanks thanks
[05:08] <OmegaAlpha> i really dont want to format because illl lose everythign right?
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  i need to install debuild right?  I thought I could just apt-get -b -something -make-me-a-package it  :)
[05:08] <percent_20> unubtu uses xorg.conf doesn't it? cuz i keep configuring it but none of the chnages seem to take affect
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> E: Couldn't find package debuild
[05:08] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, you said something about a live cd?
[05:08] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: devscripts
[05:08] <_jason> lewix: np
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  on my way.  :)
[05:08] <CryoTox> Looked everywhere but I can't find a bloody program..
[05:09] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, http://www.e-fense.com/helix
[05:09] <Rower> im getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem
[05:09] <lewix> _jason, no seriously THANKS lol...hmm finally linux isnt bad :)
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  do you recommend fakeroot or just running as root?  (dumb ass question but)
[05:09] <Falstius> zedzero_: the base package is xserver-xorg ... but you'll probably need to grab the right drivers and such.
[05:09] <nate_> zedzero_, 'apt-get -y install xserver-xorg
[05:09] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: fakeroot
[05:09] <zedzero_> thanks
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> dpkg-source: failure: create file anjuta_2.0.1-2.diff.gz: Permission denied
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> dpkg-buildpackage failed!
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  fakeroot doesn't work.  :(
[05:10] <zedzero_> also ive got another problem
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, no i will not make out with you
[05:10] <zedzero_> how can i force apt-get to get files only from internet, not cd?
[05:10] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: did you apt-get as root?
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  i'm changing permissions now thanks.
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, and put a # before the first line
[05:10] <lewix> _jason, do you code ?
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, then do an apt-get update
[05:10] <pvd2006> I am having a problem running limewire on Ubuntu. I pasted the errors to pastebin at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/601051
[05:10] <TheWrench> Blippe, ok. I am still not quite clear. I want a big partition which is accessable from both linux and windows, on which to store my media files.  I will make it fat32 since I am new to linux, so I will probably create it when I install windows.  this means thatit will have a lettername, like a: right?
[05:11] <Rower> im getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem
[05:11] <_jason> lewix: here and there, not much
[05:11] <Falstius> zedzero_: modify /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD entry.
[05:11] <nate_> The_Isle_of_Mark, install windows dirst
[05:11] <_jason> Rower: what error code?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> TheWrench,  it will have a letter under windows, same as normal. You can mount it whever ya want under linux.
[05:11] <lewix> _jason, ok
[05:11] <nate_> TheWrench, install windows first, imo
[05:11] <zedzero_> thanks
[05:12] <nate_> TheWrench, off-subject for your question, but good advice
[05:12] <OmegaAlpha> nate_,  what exactly is that.. a booting cd? this is an external harddrive.. so i dont boot from it
[05:12] <TheWrench> nate_, Falstius: ok. thanks.
[05:12] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, when you were telling me about vnc were you referring to how i can go somewhere else and access my computer or were you getting to somethign else to do with it?
[05:12] <zedzero_> i have installed xserver-xorg and configured the resolution. now what should i do? (startx still doesnt work)
[05:13] <Blippe> TheWrench, yes, in windows it will have a lettername, in linux, no!
[05:13] <intelikey> well i'm going to break this thing.   i've started removing kernel modules from lib/  if it can't find them it can't load them.
[05:13] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, it's a bootable CD that boots you into Helix, a debian-derived liveCD linux distribution, that is specifically for computer forensics, which happens to also be useful for data-recovery
[05:13] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, that is a good link you sent me on vnc.. so i guess i can access my computer somewhere else.. even the same session somewhere else?
[05:13] <Blippe> TheWrench, but I would recommend you to create the fat artition in linux instead!
[05:13] <Alex2> blippe, thanks a good read, a little greek but looks like the answer..
[05:13] <nate_> zedzero_, ls -l /usr/bin/startx
[05:13] <lewix> _jason,  how can I delete files in the terminal
[05:13] <lewix> del* ?
[05:13] <_jason> lewix: rm
[05:13] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, ah i see. sounds very nice to have... i take it i burn it as an iso and just pop it in?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell lewix about cli
[05:14] <zedzero_> nate, no such file or dir...
[05:14] <Blippe> Alex2, I haven't used it myself, but a friend told me it was good... I don't know...
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Time to google for a Bash Tutorial or 4 :P
[05:14] <TheWrench> Blippe, why?
[05:14] <thisguy> hey, my install cd doesnt work on this laptop, how can i manually install from livecd?
[05:14] <CryoTox> Arggh, ye all be useless :P
[05:14] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, yes, but like I said before, using the forensics tools is not a trivial task, it may take a lot of fiddling and a lot of doing
[05:14] <CryoTox> found my own
[05:14] <intelikey> Dr_Willis bash-doc ?
[05:14] <lewix> _jason, and if it's a folder ?
[05:14] <thisguy> anyone?
[05:14] <Blippe> TheWrench, if you are new to linux it will be easier to find for you...
[05:14] <lastetn> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:14] <nate_> thisguy, doesn't work?
[05:15] <_jason> lewix: if it is empty 'rmdir', otherwise 'rm -r' will delete recursively
[05:15] <nate_> thisguy, how does it 'not work'?
[05:15] <Blippe> TheWrench, just a thing tha will make your total setup easier...
[05:15] <thisguy> error loading kernel and timesettings, only live cd works (which im using now)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  any of the hundreds of bash tutorials out on the web :P
[05:15] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, I'm outta here for now...sorry I couldn't be more help, but it looks like you are in good hands...good luck
[05:15] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, yes i see they offer training with it and for law enforcements.. wow this is the good stuff eh? and to think i paid some guy in a computer shop 100 dollars to retrieve data on my internal hd when i crashed this laptop
[05:15] <TheWrench> Blippe, it will be easier from both windows and linux, or just from linux?
[05:15] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: 2 concept categories at right angles; they don't fit on the same level
[05:15] <thisguy> other distros have install commands, how do i do this in ubuntu?
[05:16] <Blippe> TheWrench, otherwise you need to learn how to automount and stuff... And easier from both...
[05:16] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i was asking if you have looked at  package  bash-doc
[05:16] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, thanks alot for you help i appreciate.. yeah i think ill be ok
[05:16] <zedzero_> nate, do you have any ideas?
[05:16] <intelikey> bash-doc - Documentation and examples for the The GNU Bourne Again SHell
[05:16] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, another option is to use helix from windows.  It has many many VERY useful windows tools for data recovery which are easier to use (but not as effective)
[05:16] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: in this case vnc and ssh work together better, not apart :-)
[05:16] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, just pop it in and the auto-run will bring up the menu
[05:16] <Falstius> Is it worth it to upgrade to dapper (from Breezy) for my only desktop?  AKA, is it stable enough?
[05:16] <Kanalal> can someone tell me if its possible to bind two commands to a key? or to bind a script to a key
[05:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell thisguy about synaptic
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i was refering to the OTHEr person needing to google for some bash fundamental docs. :P
[05:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell thisguy about apt
[05:17] <Xenguy> Falstius: stick with stable; what justifies a risk currently?
[05:17] <chuckyp> Falstius, you question would be better fielded in #ubuntu+1  <<< that is dapper discussion
[05:17] <Falstius> Kanalal: yes, it is.
[05:17] <Kanalal> which one?
[05:17] <nate_> TheWrench, easier to just use one operating system, but if you want to do both, install windows first (leaving room on the hard drive), then install linux
[05:17] <Kanalal> the two commands or the script?
[05:17] <thisguy> ....install from live-cd....yes? anyone?
[05:17] <Xenguy> chuckyp: the question is breezy vs. dapper
[05:17] <lewix> _jason,  I have an *.exe file I can't erase it
[05:17] <chuckyp> Kanalal, both
[05:17] <zedzero_> i have installed xserver-xorg but startx still doesnt work. is this normal_?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> thisguy,  work in progress for Dapper. I hear.
[05:17] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, guess ill have to steal another cd-r off my bro haha
[05:17] <Falstius> Xenguy: that's what I was wondering, what would be worth it ;)
[05:17] <chuckyp> Xenguy, he's asking if its stable enough
[05:17] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, hehe :D
[05:17] <_jason> lewix: where is it and what does it say when you try
[05:18] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, how can i scan and fix the errors.. i cant do it with chkdsk in windows...
[05:18] <chuckyp> Falstius, what are you trying to gain by going to dapper?
[05:18] <Blippe> nate_ we were talking about the fat32 partition...
[05:18] <Xenguy> Falstius: nothing, except bleeding-edge risk :-)  It's but a month (or 2) away
[05:18] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, so i guess that program that integrates the both of them is the way to go.. if i can only find it
[05:18] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, fschk in linux
[05:18] <TheWrench> nate_,I plan ondoing windows first
[05:18] <thisguy> come on someone, install cd dont load, i need a walkthrough for live-cd install....
[05:18] <Kanalal> chuckyp: how do i do the two commands i tried using | ; and : as seperators| but i dont know what else to try?
[05:18] <Xenguy> chuckyp: rather, is stable current enough I think
[05:18] <chuckyp> OmegaAlpha, what are you trying to do?
[05:18] <chuckyp> Kanalal, & <<<
[05:19] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: you need specific software?
[05:19] <Kanalal> thanks
[05:19] <nate_> TheWrench, good :D
[05:19] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, im totally new to using either. so i wouldn tknow where to begin. i did learn how todo the control -alt f# thing and to log in again but i forgot what that new command like is.. a console right? someone was trying to explain everythign to me.. and the differences
[05:19] <_jason> thisguy: did you burn the disc at a low speed?
[05:19] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: my gawd, stick with breezy/stable...
[05:19] <OmegaAlpha> heres what i want to do overall...
[05:19] <am3r1ca> Falstius thanx
[05:20] <thisguy> i got the official disk through canonical
[05:20] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: if there is a specific problem, focus on that
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy,  this is breezy
[05:20] <chuckyp> OmegaAlpha, the best thing to do would be to read the wiki so you get a grasp then check out tldp
[05:20] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: good
[05:20] <_jason> thisguy: sometimes they get messed up.  Have you tried other cd's?
[05:20] <Falstius> chuckyp: I want to clean up some of the x86_64 issues mostly ... and mysql5.
[05:20] <Falstius> although, just got that working from source.
[05:20] <thisguy> i have multiple copies...
[05:20] <lewix> _jason, no such files (the same for some images)
[05:20] <pvd2006> arg, Ubuntu is giving me problems again.  I tried to put limewire.sh on the desktop buts it not opening when I try to run Gedit its just sitting there in the terminal doing nothing.
[05:20] <thisguy> noone knows how to set this up from live-cd?
[05:20] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, your best bet is to buy a book or two, go through those, then break every linux distro you can find, then settle on one.....but that's just me i guess :D
[05:20] <_jason> lewix: read through the tutorials ubotu gave you and come back if you are still stucj
[05:21] <lewix> ok
[05:21] <pvd2006> sorry
[05:21] <pvd2006> I meant limewire.desktop
[05:21] <pvd2006> trying to create a new file with Gedit
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> this just happened recently and unexpected i was on my way to setting up a network in samba to share my ext hd with my bro who has a win box.. and then learned of putty but right now my ext hd is messed up so stopping me from everything
[05:21] <_jason> thisguy: search ubuntuforums.org, I believe there was a thread explaining it.  try wiki.ubuntu.com too
[05:21] <Xenguy> nate_: gawd no - why waste all that time -- debian based distros are ahead in the end
[05:21] <unfo> OmegaAlpha: every linux distro has strengths or weaknesses. ask someone, preferably one person u trust, to help you decide.
[05:21] <zedzero> nate, can you help me a bit more please?
[05:21] <unfo> s/or/and
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, haha if i had the time and patience i would. for now ubuntu breezy is good enough for me
[05:22] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, ill just wait till 4/20 for dapper
[05:22] <Xenguy> unfo: no no Debian/Ubu is superior :P
[05:22] <OmegaAlpha> lol im not trying to pick otu a distro
[05:22] <unfo> Xenguy: i agree, im on Debian.
[05:22] <thisguy> alright i will do that
[05:22] <Xenguy> unfo: hah
[05:22] <nate_> Xenguy, because not everyone uses debian-based-distros, it's valuable to learn other ones as well, then you see what the features of each are
[05:22] <nickrud> heh. dropped back in just in time. nate's advice is the best I've seen in a while
[05:22] <TheWrench> Well, thanks everybody for all of the help.  I'll see what happpens
[05:22] <nate_> Xenguy, and superior in what aspect?
[05:22] <OmegaAlpha> im just trying to fix my ext hd so i can share it with my network using samba.. and then after that set up my linux so i can access my computer from anywhere i want
[05:22] <Xenguy> nate_: no, a waste of time, unless you have too much time ;-)
[05:23] <Xenguy> nate_: all respects :-)
[05:23] <nickrud> of course, look where we've all ended up :)
[05:23] <Blippe> TheWrench, good luck and have fun!
[05:23] <nate_> Xenguy, your head-in-the-sand my-distro-is-better-than-yours attitude is ignotance at its worst
[05:23] <pvd2006> its not letting me,  "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/LimeWire.desktop"
[05:23] <zedzero> i installed xserver-xorg, but startx still doesnt work. what should i do?
[05:23] <nate_> ignorance*
[05:23] <Xenguy> nate_:  nyah nyah
[05:24] <vaslo> where do you get started with all this stuff?
[05:24] <Xenguy> nate_: ubuntu *is* better than a lot of others :-)
[05:24] <unfo> pvd2006: learn Vim or Emacs :)
[05:24] <nate_> Xenguy, while I do agree that Debian based distros are GREAT desktops and often great servers, other distros have their places
[05:24] <nate_> Xenguy, just not on my boxes :)
[05:24] <Xenguy> nate_: yes, the end of the line ;-)
[05:25] <pvd2006> I can learn those, but still.. the program should work, a lot of programs on Ubuntu have been unresponsive for me
[05:25] <Xenguy> nate_: hehe
[05:25] <unfo> vaslo: you mean with linux?
[05:25] <V4Vendetta> damn
[05:25] <V4Vendetta> kde is slower then gnome
[05:25] <V4Vendetta> way slower
[05:25] <nate_> Xenguy, we quieted down the channel pretty well :D
[05:25] <lastetn> hi i need help, i instaled dapper, before i installed it i could should bettewn Ubunut or Windows now i cant
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> V4Vendetta,  never noticed.
[05:25] <unfo> V4Vendetta: but the extra features make the startup time worthwhile.
[05:25] <lastetn> can any of u help me
[05:25] <V4Vendetta> Dr_Willis, never ?
[05:25] <Blippe> V4Vendetta, you running gnome stuff in kde?
[05:25] <Xenguy> nate_: heheh (where's that pin?)
[05:25] <V4Vendetta> unfo, i mean during use, not startup persay
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> V4Vendetta,  nope. cant say that ive ever noticed differance at all.
[05:26] <V4Vendetta> Blippe, not running kde anymore, but no it was a fresh install
[05:26] <zedzero> can someone please help me?
[05:26] <V4Vendetta> xfce is the fastest, but i don't like it
[05:26] <Blippe> ic
[05:26] <Xenguy> !anyone
[05:26] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:26] <unfo> V4Vendetta: really? even if it were so, it'd be worth it.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> depends on what tools you are using as well. :P
[05:26] <V4Vendetta> unfo, maybe
[05:26] <nate_> zedzero, still the same problem?
[05:26] <Falstius> zedzero: does it give you an error yet?
[05:26] <vaslo> yes i mean generally with linux, any good books out there? tools? where do you get started?
[05:26] <zedzero> nate_, yes...
[05:26] <Blippe> V4Vendetta, what about pekvw or even better, no x?
[05:26] <Blippe> :D
[05:26] <Xenguy> V4Vendetta: awww, I like xfce - it's fast, and what not to like?
[05:26] <nate_> zedzero, srry, ummm
[05:26] <V4Vendetta> all i ever run is xchat xmms, azureus, gaim firefox and gmail-notify and the occasional abiword.
[05:26] <lastetn> hi i need help, i instaled dapper, before i installed it i could should bettewn Ubunut or Windows now i cant
[05:26] <V4Vendetta> oh and gizmo.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> vaslo,  http://google.com/linux
[05:26] <unfo> vaslo: first you find a friend who's willing to help you, or a book
[05:26] <bluefoxicy> grep: /usr/lib/libwnck-1.la: No such file or directory
[05:26] <zedzero> nate_, xserver-xorg is installed, but startx still doesnt work
[05:27] <bluefoxicy> crimsun: it missed a build dep.
[05:27] <unfo> vaslo: then you save all your documents to a burned cd
[05:27] <Rower> _jason: fixed the error.. thanx anyway
[05:27] <nate_> zedzero, apt-get install xorg-common
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> vaslo,  the ubuntu homepage has links to good sites as well
[05:27] <unfo> vaslo: then you reformat your entire hard drive - this is important.
[05:27] <Xenguy> vaslo: debian-administration.org
[05:27] <unfo> vaslo: then you start to learn.
[05:27] <zedzero> nate_, its already installed and latest version
[05:27] <unfo> Xenguy: why?
[05:27] <pvd2006> Having problems wioth programs in ubuntu being unresponsive and having to force them to quit. Can anyone relate to this?
[05:28] <Falstius> lastetn: you have to modify /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:28] <nate_> zedzero, argh...
[05:28] <unfo> pvd2006: I can, I use Windows sometimes :)
[05:28] <Xenguy> unfo: 42
[05:28] <Falstius> you can search google for "grub windows boot" and probably find something quickly.
[05:28] <Falstius> zedzero: is startx found?
[05:28] <zedzero> falstius, nope
[05:28] <lastetn> Falstius how can u help me please
[05:28] <unfo> Xenguy: 42???
[05:28] <nate_> Falstius, naw, heh
[05:28] <vaslo> i have reformatted the drive and put the fedora core on my computer, just because i found a decent book with it
[05:28] <unfo> vaslo: fine.
[05:29] <pvd2006> Ive had less problems with windows xp so far as far as unresponsiveness goes:-\
[05:29] <vaslo> cant get ubuntu to work on it :(
[05:29] <unfo> vaslo: but then the best help is from IRC channel #fedora.
[05:29] <Blippe> lastetn you need to "restore" grub...
[05:29] <Xenguy> unfo: HHG2TG reference
[05:29] <Falstius> lastetn: there are many webpages that describe how to do that.
[05:29] <nate_> zedzero, apt-get install xdm
[05:29] <unfo> Xenguy: i know, why did you throw in the ultimate answer? what was the question?
[05:29] <cafuego> xenguy: oi
[05:29] <lastetn> Falstius ok
[05:29] <pvd2006> I have the latest kernel modules and apps installed
[05:29] <lastetn> Blippe how do i do that?
[05:29] <Falstius> zedzero: apt-get install gnome :)
[05:30] <Xenguy> cafuego: heh, gabba gabba hey
[05:30] <Xenguy> unfo: it's hard to say sometimes :-)
[05:30] <Falstius> Then just configure gdm to run fluxbox instead of gnome .. and do you really need something that light?  Are you running a PIII?
[05:30] <nate_> anyone know any docs for the preseed files in the installer?
[05:30] <Badm4n> hello
[05:31] <nate_> Falstius, I'm running gnome on a p3 right now with no problems
[05:31] <lastetn> Blippe how do i do that?
[05:31] <Badm4n> Ubuntu Security Notice USN-262-1 <-- is this true ?
[05:31] <MrRio> when i type 'fi' or 'st' together in gedit, it replaces it with one character
[05:31] <unfo> Xenguy: ok... :)
[05:31] <MrRio> this is in the dapper release with Freemono Medium 11
[05:31] <unfo> MrRio: are you using an un-American keyboard map?
[05:31] <unfo> :)
[05:31] <Blippe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29
[05:31] <Xenguy> unfo: sorry for any unintentional obsfucation at the moment :-)
[05:31] <nate_> unfo, lol, un-american
[05:31] <cafuego> Badm4n: yes
[05:31] <zedzero> ~)
[05:31] <nate_> UN-PATRIOTIC!!!
[05:32] <nate_> lol
[05:32] <MrRio> unfo, British, standard latin character-set
[05:32] <unfo> MrRio: oh. then I don't know, sorry.
[05:32] <Badm4n> cafuego : is that can be fix only by : apt-get update /upgrade ?
[05:32] <cafuego> nate_: Are you implying non-US contries don't have partiots?
[05:32] <zedzero> nate_, xdm worked but there were only some silly lines (resolution problem?) and it quited on its own without any error message. now what does that mean?
[05:32] <cafuego> Badm4n: Well, you could trash the installer logs, that'd do the trick too .
[05:32] <nate_> cafuego, i just thought saying un-american keyboard map was funny lol
[05:32] <nate_> cafuego, they're part of the axis of evil!
[05:33] <nate_> cafuego, lol
[05:33] <dooglus> Badm4n: the only solution is to change your password
[05:33] <Badm4n> cafuego : where i can find installer log ? i'm on server mode ... console only
[05:33] <cafuego> Badm4n: /var/log/installer/*
[05:33] <Badm4n> allrite
[05:33] <dooglus> Badm4n: the update won't help, because someone may already have read the file in the past.
[05:33] <nate_> zedzero, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[05:33] <Badm4n> i c
[05:33] <Falstius> zedzero: I think you need "xinit"
[05:34] <nate_> Falstius, I think he's getting the 'lines' because the resolution or refresh rate is off
[05:34] <cafuego> dooglus: Still, removing the temptation is not a bad thing.
[05:34] <lewix> _jason, I'm watching a video with mplayer. i would like ot put fullscreen. DO you have an any idea ? thanks again
[05:34] <dooglus> cafuego: what temptation?
[05:34] <cafuego> dooglus: existing installer logs
[05:34] <Falstius> nate_, having startx will make it a lot easier to debug problems starting xwindows.  xinit includes startx.
[05:34] <nate_> lewix, press f
[05:34] <Badm4n> /var/log/installer/ <-- valid to remove ? rm -rf ? will not make my system crash ?
[05:35] <dooglus> cafuego: does it make any sense at all to you that the update doesn't force a password change?
[05:35] <lewix> it is small though
[05:35] <nate_> Falstius, I had him install xdm, which i believe gives you startx
[05:35] <cafuego> dooglus: _if_ noone's read them _and_ they're still there, fixing the problem would be a good thing regardless.
[05:35] <zedzero> nate_, it says xorg-server is not installed
[05:35] <_jason> lewix: press 'f'
[05:35] <lewix> nate_,  it just gives the impression to be bigger but it isnt
[05:35] <heatxsink> anyone in here run a saa7134 with tvtime on ubuntu?
[05:35] <dooglus> cafuego: there's no way of knowing whether anyone has read them
[05:35] <nate_> lewix, hmmm, i dunno then
[05:35] <nate_> zedzero, ha!
[05:35] <_jason> lewix: in preferences, choose 'xv' as your video output
[05:35] <CryoTox> Okay, just got a prog unzipped it, But low and behold I forget a command i need. It's something like 'make install' is that correct
[05:36] <cafuego> dooglus: Yes, forcing a password change is something MS would do. It's not up to Canonical to decide whether I want to or not, at best they could advise that it would be a good idea.
[05:36] <lewix> _jason, how do I do that ?
[05:36] <am3r1ca> HELP ! i have a link on my desktop that i cant remove, when i try to delete it says : not on same file system ???
[05:36] <nate_> zedzero, ummm, i dunno
[05:36] <_jason> lewix: are you using the gui?
[05:36] <zedzero> nate_, but also there is no package with that name...
[05:36] <cafuego> dooglus: That depends on who has access to the system
[05:36] <nate_> zedzero, what?
[05:36] <Badm4n> dooglus : after i remove the log and change my password ... should i do apt-get update/upgrade ?
[05:36] <lewix> _jason, nope
[05:36] <zedzero> nate_, i tried to sudo apt-get install xorg-server, and it said no such package exists
[05:36] <lastetn> hey can anybody helpme with the grub
[05:36] <Falstius> zedzero: do "sudo apt-get install xinit"
[05:37] <lewix> _jason,  I just type mplayer in the terminal
[05:37] <dooglus> Badm4n: if you change your password then there's no need to reboot or upgrade, no.
[05:37] <unfo> zedzero: xserver-xorg
[05:37] <dabaR> am3r1ca: what does it look like? take a screenshot, paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, the pastebin.
[05:37] <_jason> lewix: edit ~/.mplayer/config and add the line 'vo = xv'
[05:37] <zedzero> falstius, xinit is already installed
[05:37] <zedzero> unfo, that is installed too :)
[05:37] <CryoTox> Okay, just got a prog unzipped it, But low and behold I forget a command i need. It's something like 'make install' is that correct
[05:37] <dabaR> am3r1ca: and paste the output of ls -l ~/Desktop, from a "Applications>Utils>Terminal"
[05:37] <Badm4n> i c
[05:37] <unfo> zedzero: oh. you could try installing x-window-system too, thats the full system.
[05:38] <Paper183> can i delete the whole /var/log/installer safely ??
[05:38] <CryoTox> I'm in the folder I've just forgot the command
[05:38] <Falstius> zedzero: and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fix your video driver and refresh rate.
[05:38] <zedzero> unfo, what do you mean by full system?
[05:38] <cafuego> Paper183: yes
[05:38] <lewix> _jason, Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[05:38] <lewix> lewix@Lewix:/media/win/Documents and Settings/Lewis/My Documents/M
[05:38] <rexkwondo> Here I sit with my new Averatec 3700 and a Dapper (5) disk... someone stop me!
[05:38] <unfo> zedzero: xclock, xterm, etc.
[05:38] <Paper183> cafuego: thanks
[05:38] <_jason> lewix: sudo nano ~/.mplayer/config, by 'edit' I just meant choose your favorite editor :)
[05:38] <rexkwondo> thank, man
[05:38] <Badm4n> what is the channel of ubuntu art ?
[05:39] <zedzero> xwindow system is not available via apt-get (yes i have universe servers selected)
[05:39] <unfo> zedzero: maybe x-window-system-core
[05:39] <iGotNoTime> what engine has the most "widgets" available? I am getting nothing but errors with gdesklet :(
[05:39] <_jason> lewix: you don't need the sudo in that command by the way
[05:39] <Falstius> unfo: so thats the full wrapper .. good to know :)
[05:39] <Falstius> (x-window-system-core)
[05:40] <Madpilot> iGotNoTime, there are lots of interesting Gnome-native applets - what're you trying to do?
[05:40] <CryoTox> Any help?
[05:40] <fiveiron> ok, anyone running xgl?
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> how do i clear downloaded but not installed stuff ?
[05:40] <lewix> _jason, ok. hmm now im stuck..dunno how to save
[05:40] <V4Vendetta> delete i mean.
[05:40] <iGotNoTime> Madpilot get a webpage on my desktop background
[05:40] <unfo> Falstius: yep. iirc its x-window-system tho.
[05:40] <unfo> Falstius: on debian atleast
[05:40] <dabaR> Badm4n: /j #ubuntu-artwork
[05:40] <dabaR> Badm4n: /j #ubuntu-art
[05:40] <Falstius> unfo, no x-window-system-core (according to apt-cache)
[05:40] <dabaR> pah!
[05:40] <Madpilot> iGotNoTime, hmm, no idea - sorry
[05:40] <unfo> Falstius: oh
[05:40] <_jason> lewix: see the bottom? it's a cheat sheet.  ^X means ctrl-x
[05:41] <am3r1ca> dabaR i sent it to the paste bin
[05:41] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, sudo apt-get autoclean, removes any downloaded but not used packages
[05:41] <_jason> lewix: save is writeout by the way, but you can jsut exit and it will prompt you to save
[05:41] <unfo> V4Vendetta: low on space?
[05:41] <iGotNoTime> Madpilot, do you by chance have a link to some interesting reading on some of these gnome native applets?
[05:41] <V4Vendetta> unfo, no
[05:41] <unfo> V4Vendetta: so why?
[05:41] <V4Vendetta> unfo, because i like a clean system
[05:41] <zedzero> yay, it dpkg-reconfigure seems to work :) its reconfigured and startx is found. now getting some other packages it wanted. thank you all :)
[05:41] <iGotNoTime> Madpilot, I really don't want to add more than I need lol
[05:42] <lewix> _jason, no such file or directory
[05:42] <eric_> i'm hoping to run apache web server behind a wireless router. port forwarding doesn't seem to work with my current linksys router. any suggestions?
[05:42] <Falstius> zedzero: you should install x-terminal-emulator too ... it looks like x-window-system-core doesn't include that.
[05:42] <unfo> V4Vendetta: can sometimes be a waste of time.
[05:42] <balu1> well shit
[05:42] <balu1> some how it works
[05:42] <balu1> amazing
[05:42] <V4Vendetta> unfo, it took one second, and i saved 2 gigs
[05:42] <balu1> how does mupen work on my comp
[05:42] <unfo> V4Vendetta: oh. :)
[05:42] <balu1> when i have no 3d accel?
[05:42] <dabaR> am3r1ca: which one? it is not on the ubuntu pastebin.
[05:42] <zedzero> now how can i get graphical login screen on startup?
[05:42] <am3r1ca> dabaR it just finished sending now
[05:42] <am3r1ca> sorry
[05:42] <unfo> V4Vendetta: but you just blew away a cache of useful stuff incase of uninstall then reinstall a package.
[05:43] <V4Vendetta> unfo, eh, i don't install stuff often. i have a core set of stuff i always use
[05:43] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, you can configure apt to do that automatically, man apt.conf
[05:43] <Madpilot> iGotNoTime, just right-click on either the top & bottom bar of your desktop, and select Add To Panel - that'll bring up (most of) the stuff you can add. Some apps add new applets.
[05:43] <unfo> V4Vendetta: ok
[05:43] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, cheers mate :-D
[05:43] <dabaR> am3r1ca: :D
[05:43] <iGotNoTime> Madpilot, thanks for the tip :)
[05:43] <dabaR> am3r1ca: so which one does not want to go? the dos one?
[05:43] <_jason> lewix: mkdir ~/.mplayer
[05:44] <am3r1ca> yeah
[05:44] <dabaR> am3r1ca: paste output of "sudo mount" to pastebin.
[05:44] <nate_> zedzero, i think that's what xdm is, a graphical login that is x-only
[05:44] <am3r1ca> ok
[05:44] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, is  Clean-Installed
[05:44] <V4Vendetta>  what i want?
[05:44] <nate_> zedzero, srry for leavin btw, nature called
[05:44] <_jason> lewix: after that, just do 'gedit ~/.mplayer/config', it will be easier than nano
[05:44] <Badm4n> any one can tell me about the screensaver timeout command on console ? so it will display on my putty
[05:45] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, heck, I don't know, I haven't actually looked at the options lately (I keep old debs)
[05:45] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, ok
[05:45] <Grark> man o man.....if apps are suddenly not loading, is it worthwhile to reload them or to find out why they're not loading?
[05:45] <am3r1ca> dabaR done
[05:45] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, where is the apt config, /ect/apt ?
[05:45] <V4Vendetta> etc*
[05:45] <zedzero> nate_, its ok. you helped a lot already :)
[05:46] <dabaR> am3r1ca: "sudo umount /dev/sda6" enter your password. It was a drive mounted at that spot.
[05:46] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, yeah, Clean-Installed, it's /etc/apt/apt.conf
[05:46] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, mine is blank ..
[05:46] <zedzero> is there a way to search package descriptions at apt-get?
[05:46] <nate_> zedzero, but really though, i think you would be better off reinstalling normally, then installing xdm and fluxbox, then reconfiguring x to use those instead of gdm and gnome
[05:47] <MrRio> zedzero: you can in synaptic
[05:47] <am3r1ca> WORKED !!
[05:47] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, it's a new file you create, yes.
[05:47] <am3r1ca> thanks
[05:47] <bimberi> zedzero: use synaptic, or 'apt-cache search <string>' on the command line
[05:47] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, do i just paste Clean-Installed in it?
[05:47] <lewix> _jason, vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
[05:47] <lewix> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[05:47] <lewix> Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!
[05:47] <lewix> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11
[05:47] <lewix> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[05:47] <am3r1ca> but sda6 is the swap partition
[05:47] <am3r1ca> should it be mounted ???
[05:47] <lewix> arf sorry again.
[05:47] <dabaR> am3r1ca: :-/? it worked? cause I told you what to do to make it go away...
[05:47] <nate_> zedzero, but you could apt-get install aptitude
[05:47] <nate_> zedzero, it's like synaptic, but for the command line
[05:48] <_jason> lewix: what kind of video card do you have and have you installed the drivers for it?
[05:48] <Grark> Can someone help me reinstall gcc 3 instead of 4...I think that's what's choking vmware
[05:48] <_jason> Grark: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4
[05:48] <lewix> _jason,  I don't know..I've just installed ubuntu
[05:48] <nalioth> lewix: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin (wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules)
[05:48] <am3r1ca> dabaR i was fiddling around with fstab, could you take a look at it to see ir everything is ok ??
[05:48] <V4Vendetta> Grark, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:48] <Xenguy> Grark: apt-get install gcc-3.4  ?
[05:48] <Falstius> zedzero: apt-cache search string string to find interesting packages and apt-cache show package to get the info about it.
[05:48] <lewix> nalioth, ok sorry
[05:49] <nickrud> V4Vendetta, I would think it's Apt::Clean-Install
[05:49] <_jason> lewix: you have an nvidia or ati?
[05:49] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, okay thank you
[05:49] <lewix> ATI, _jason
[05:49] <Grark> figures it would be that simple.
[05:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell lewix about ati
[05:49] <ale_> i installed linux on a new computer (pentium 4). Ubuntu installed itself very nicely, and i have basic sound, but no sound coming from wavs, mpegs or flash files. Even xmms crashes. Suggestions?
[05:50] <Grark> crap.
[05:50] <Grark> that didn't work
[05:50] <nate_> ale_, it may be that your sound-playing program is not playing sound to esd, the default sound daemon
[05:50] <ale_> but no sound playing program works
[05:50] <V4Vendetta> ale_, are you using ALSA ?
[05:50] <Madpilot> ale_, do you have the extra codecs installed for wavs & such?
[05:50] <ale_> yes im using alsa
[05:50] <dabaR> am3r1ca: you would have to show me the file, on pastebin, and write an explanation of what you would like it to do.
[05:50] <nickrud> Grark, try export CC="gcc-3.4"
[05:51] <V4Vendetta> ale_, do you have XMMS set to use alsa ?
[05:51] <alimh> Need some help... when i try to "sudo cat 1 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to change my brightness on laptop, it says permission denied. Any ideas?
[05:51] <nate_> doesn't ubuntu use esd by default?
[05:51] <nate_> or did they move away from that?
[05:51] <V4Vendetta> nate_, i don't think it does
[05:51] <ale_> let me check that last thing
[05:51] <V4Vendetta> i think it picks based on the card
[05:51] <nate_> they did in hoary
[05:51] <V4Vendetta> OSS ALSA or ESD
[05:51] <bob123> hi there, i cant see my ubuntu machine on the DHCP table of my router but i can see my windows machine, can anyone help me ?
[05:51] <nickrud> alsa oss esd i think
[05:51] <Grark> nickrud, what does that do?
[05:52] <nate_> i would bet why it crashes and won't play those files is the wrong one is selected
[05:52] <Varanger> hello... I am having problem logging with gdm, letter keys are not recognized
[05:52] <nate_> Varanger, what did you do just before this happened?
[05:52] <Varanger> nate_: Reboot
[05:52] <nickrud> Grark, I my creaky memory serves, when a config script or make calls for a c compiler, it looks at CC first
[05:52] <nate_> Varanger, what did you do just before reboot?
[05:53] <Varanger> nate_: Maybe, I upgraded the system, but I don't remember what, just the default options from Synaptic
[05:53] <lastetn> hi plese help me with the grub
[05:53] <am3r1ca> dabaR ok i pasted it
[05:53] <lastetn> ive  been trying a lot of things
[05:53] <Falstius> alimh: sudo "cat 1 > /proc/blah/blah"
[05:53] <nate_> Varanger, well, I may not be able to help you much, but I would be looking to that as the likely cause
[05:54] <Varanger> nate_: I rebooted again and entered to the console, and the keyboard was working well, then I started X with startx and the keyboard was working well under GNOME
[05:54] <Falstius> Varanger: is it a laptop with numlock?  turn it off ... (thats all I can think of)
[05:54] <nickrud> Grark, what that's doing is setting an environment variable, you can see yours with env | sort
[05:54] <ale_> V4Vendetta, now i set xmms to use alsa, and it doesnt crash anymore.. but still no sound
[05:55] <Falstius> ale_: did you run the mixer?  the volume might be 0.
[05:55] <V4Vendetta> ale_, okay, do this for me, type alsa mixer in a terminal and see if anything is set to off, on the top left corner use the arrow keys to move, and up to turn volume up
[05:55] <dabaR> am3r1ca: cfdisk formats the hard disk.
[05:55] <nate_> Varanger, so the problem is no more?
[05:56] <Varanger> Faltstius: Is a USB keyboard, and I already tried on/off the NumLock
[05:56] <ale_> the mixer was the first thing i checked, both in X and in the terminal
[05:56] <ale_> Falstius, V4Vendetta  the mixer was the first thing i checked, both in X and in the terminal
[05:56] <am3r1ca> dabaR it also creates partitions
[05:56] <V4Vendetta> ale_, nothing is set to off?
[05:56] <alimh> Falstius: that gives me "command not found"
[05:56] <nate_> Varanger, oh, USB keyboard, now we enter into even more possible issues...
[05:56] <dabaR> am3r1ca: ya, which is what I said.
[05:56] <am3r1ca> ok
[05:56] <ale_> nothing is off. And i DO have the basic ubuntu sounds. Just no sound for wav, mp3, flash...
[05:56] <Grark> nickrud, anywhere I can see a "log" for opening apps?
[05:57] <_jason> ale_: you probably have esd, does xmms crash when you try to use esd?
[05:57] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody know what I would need to install to get /usr/include/GL/gl.h
[05:57] <_jason> SlicerDicer-: libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:57] <V4Vendetta> ale_, in the sound applet in gnome, where it says device, what device do you have enabled
[05:57] <V4Vendetta> ale_, file>change device
[05:57] <dabaR> am3r1ca: it looks like the dos drive was mounted in vfat format. What ws not working exactly?
[05:57] <am3r1ca> dabaR the swap and fat32 were switched, sda6 and 7, in fstab with the info in cfdisk
[05:57] <nickrud> Grark, you can see a history of your terminal, type history ; I don't think that's what you're looking for, though
[05:58] <SlicerDicer-> _jason: that wants to remove nvidia-glx though
[05:58] <dabaR> am3r1ca: post output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:58] <Grark> no, i'm looking to see why my apps are "disappearing"
[05:58] <Grark> or crashing.
[05:58] <ale_> V4Vendetta, sound applet? what and where is that?
[05:58] <_jason> SlicerDicer-: strange, I have both installed
[05:59] <ale_> _jason, yes
[05:59] <V4Vendetta> ale_, it looks like a speaker
[05:59] <nickrud> Grark, does pressing alt-tab show you the apps? (maybe a stupid question, but let's get it out of the way)
[05:59] <ale_> wait
[05:59] <moshe> hello
[05:59] <am3r1ca> dabaR ok i pasted it
[05:59] <moshe> does skype on Linux work with webcams?
[06:00] <Grark> nickrud, no it doesn't
[06:00] <unfo> moshe: i use it. no, it doesn't. use gnomemeeting instead.
[06:00] <ale_> i tried putting ESD instead of ALSA in XMMS and now the sound works
[06:00] <ale_> like _jason said
[06:00] <nickrud> Grark, ok. which apps? You have a very vague problem
[06:00] <Carbon14> Anyone free?
[06:00] <moshe> gnomemeeting crashes on me with no terminal output to diagnose the cause
[06:00] <levander> 'uname -a' isn't reporting the patch level of the kernel i'm running.  Anybody know a command to get a more specific kernel version?
[06:00] <unfo> moshe: oh :(
[06:00] <SlicerDicer-> _jason: wait no I have that installed it gives glx.h not gl.h
[06:00] <ale_> that's amazing
[06:01] <dabaR> am3r1ca: looks fine here. Does it work for you?
[06:01] <Grark> nickrud, two apps specifically that I installed..
[06:01] <Grark> azareus and vmware
[06:01] <_jason> SlicerDicer-: libgl1-mesa-dev 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1 gives me usr/include/GL/gl.h
[06:01] <darkmatter> hey
[06:01] <darkmatter> anyone here?
[06:01] <nekostar> IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq    =  0 (off) using_dma    =  1 (on) keepsettings =  0 (off) readonly     =  0 (off) readahead    = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument  <<--- how do i turn all that on?
[06:01] <nickrud> Grark, vmware, I havent' a clue. Do you have java installed?
[06:01] <dabaR> no
[06:01] <zedzero> startx doesnt work... it says it cant start without .xsession file and window manager
[06:01] <Carbon14> darkmatter: look to the right
[06:02] <moshe> getting my labtec webcam running has been a fiasco and a half
[06:02] <darkmatter> yes.... I know..... but ive had bad experieces with irc
[06:02] <Carbon14> :P
[06:02] <darkmatter> lol
[06:02] <Carbon14> fun fun
[06:02] <Grark> yes I do.
[06:02] <Carbon14> yah I don't think anyones free at the moment
[06:02] <darkmatter> hey, Im completely new to linux, just tried the ubuntu 5.1 live
[06:03] <am3r1ca> dabaR yeah but when i load ubunto in all the loading steps, when is Check Mounting Local File System---- it says Failed
[06:03] <darkmatter> and I was impressed, so i want to install it
[06:03] <zedzero> darkmatter, i saw your post at ubuntuforums :)
[06:03] <nickrud> Grark, does java -version say something about 1.4.2 or 1.5?
[06:03] <darkmatter> huh?
[06:03] <darkmatter> must be another darkmatter
[06:03] <ReWT_> i used the update repository website to updatre all my repositories and after copy andpasting the file, I'm getting some errors on the last 2 on the list?
[06:03] <dabaR> am3r1ca: weird, sec.
[06:03] <am3r1ca> but it mounts all the partions alright
[06:03] <zedzero> darkmatter4004 or smthg like that
[06:03] <Carbon14> darkmatter: Ubuntu's a good choice. My worst enemy right now is memory loss
[06:03] <darkmatter> yeah, not me
[06:03] <Carbon14> can't remember commands
[06:03] <Grark> nickrud, well I reinsatalled v1.4.2 to get azareus working...
[06:03] <alimh> Anyone know why when i try to "sudo cat 1 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to change my brightness on laptop, it says permission denied. Any ideas?
[06:03] <Grark> but everything WAS working.
[06:04] <darkmatter> ok, so basically, can i just buy a second hard drive, and have 1 windows hard drive, 1 linux?
[06:04] <Grark> then it just stopped loading properly.
[06:04] <darkmatter> and just choose which one to boot from every time I boot
[06:04] <Carbon14> alimh: Did you try it in root?
[06:04] <ReWT_> can anyone hel?
[06:04] <ReWT_> *help
[06:04] <alimh> but i don't know the root password...
[06:04] <Grark> nickrud, NOW when I go to install vmware again, it's giving me "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:04] <Grark> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:04] <Grark> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[06:04] <Grark> "
[06:04] <_jason> !helpme
[06:04] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:04] <cilynx> alimh: what do you get if you "sudo cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" ?
[06:04] <chuckyp> alimh, if youa re using sudo it should work.  Maybe make sure that /proc is getting mounted.  and that /proc/..../brightness is there
[06:04] <ReWT_> i used the update repository website to updatre all my repositories and after copy andpasting the file, I'm getting some errors on the last 2 on the list?
[06:05] <darkmatter> ah, hello?
[06:05] <ReWT_> jason....i said that earlier
[06:05] <ReWT_> scroll up.
[06:05] <chuckyp> alimh, try sudo su
[06:05] <ale_> what are the common packages i should install so that gxine will be able to play the sound in movies?
[06:05] <alimh> yeah, it is there and whhen I cat /proc/..../brightness is shows the levels and current
[06:05] <chuckyp> alimh, err.. sudo -s
[06:05] <ale_> what are the common packages i should install so that gxine will be able to play the sound in movies? (mpeg, etc)
[06:05] <nickrud> Grark, Like I said, I've no clue about vmware, except you gotta recompile your kernel or modules or some such. Never used it :)
[06:05] <chuckyp> alimh, yeah sudo -s then try it.
[06:05] <_jason> ReWT_: put the errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ as well as your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:05] <SlicerDicer-> _jason: I guess its different in dapper
[06:05] <Carbon14> chuckyp: He doesn't have the root pass..
[06:05] <_jason> SlicerDicer-: ah, must be
[06:05] <chuckyp> alimh, just use your users password at the prompt when you sudo -s
[06:05] <cilynx> ale_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <_jason> SlicerDicer-: ask the folk in #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <chuckyp> Carbon14, he doesn't need it.
[06:05] <Grark> nickrud, strange because I had it working....
[06:05] <Carbon14> okay
[06:05] <nekostar> crap
[06:05] <Grark> ok so about azareus.
[06:05] <alimh> It works! the sudo su worked. thanks a lot guys!
[06:06] <darkmatter> is anyone who knows a bit free to answer a poor noobs ridiculusly easy questions?
[06:06] <Grark> where was that HOWTO install?
[06:06] <nekostar> anyone know how to fix permissions for cdroms // dvdroms ?
[06:06] <nekostar> hm
[06:06] <nekostar> the hdparm stuff
[06:06] <chuckyp> alimh, you should actually use sudo -s just for the future
[06:06] <nekostar> mine is all borked
[06:06] <Grark> !tell Grark Azareus
[06:06] <lastetn> i need help with the grub please help me
[06:06] <Grark> hehehe
[06:06] <ale_> cilynx, thanks
[06:06] <nickrud> Grark, and if java is kicking back 1.4, maybe you need 1.5. I don't use java much, and azureus not at all.
[06:06] <chuckyp> alimh, either way works
[06:06] <Carbon14> chuckyp: Do you know the make file command?
[06:06] <A10n> hey guys i have a question about removing libfreetype6-dev
[06:06] <cilynx> darkmatter: what you got?
[06:06] <Carbon14> I've forgotten
[06:06] <cilynx> ale: np
[06:06] <Grark> where's that wiki?
[06:06] <chuckyp> Carbon14, make?
[06:06] <Grark> :(
[06:06] <A10n> if i do a apt-get remove libfreetype6-dev it wants to remove the following packages, shold i say yes?
[06:07] <A10n> ftgl-dev libcairo2-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgtk2.0-dev libpango1.0-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libxft-dev
[06:07] <nickrud> Grark, your vague question came down to things I don't know :)
[06:07] <darkmatter> cilynx, how do i do private chat?
[06:07] <alimh> chuckyp: is there any way i can use a script to control that
[06:07] <Madpilot> Grark, you mean wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:07] <A10n> how do i just remove libfreetype6-dev and nothing else
[06:07] <Carbon14> chuckyp: it says it isn't a command
[06:07] <chuckyp> Carbon14, what are you trying to do?
[06:07] <dabaR> am3r1ca: show output of dmesg |tail
[06:07] <_jason> A10n: the things it wants to remove probably depend on libfreetype6-dev
[06:07] <Xenguy> A10n: looks alright, but no guarantees of course :-)
[06:07] <A10n> lol
[06:07] <Falstius> alimh: you can also do sudo "cat 1 > /procl/blah/lbah".  the problem with sudo cat1 > is that the "cat" is executed as superuser but not the redirection.  So you have to put quotes around the whole thing.
[06:07] <cilynx> darkmatter: /msg <nick> <message>
[06:07] <chuckyp> alimh, you would have to give the script root access I believe would be a security issue.  But i'm sure it could be done.
[06:08] <A10n> i'm sure when i installed libfreetyp6-dev those were already installed bveofre
[06:08] <lastetn> please somebody help with the grub
[06:08] <ReWT_> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10189
[06:08] <Carbon14> chuckyp: I have an achive unzipped and I need to use the make command, i.e 'make clean' 'make install' or something like that. but I forget the command
[06:08] <chuckyp> alimh, try asking in #linuxhelp there are some knowledgable shell script guys there.
[06:08] <A10n> before
[06:08] <cilynx> lastetn: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:08] <SlicerDicer-> _jason: will do
[06:08] <alimh> chuckyp: see, i want to have my script run when i press a certain key combination
[06:08] <chuckyp> Carbon14, well first you would ./configure usually then make then sudo make install
[06:08] <Xenguy> Carbon14: learn checkinstall too :-)
[06:08] <Carbon14> okay
[06:08] <chuckyp> !tell Carbon14 about compile
[06:08] <me2win> !LAMP
[06:08] <ubotu> hmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:08] <alimh> chuckyp: oh. is that #linuxhelp in this server?
[06:08] <lastetn> cilynx see i dont know why i can see the menu in the grub
[06:09] <chuckyp> alimh, No i hear you its possible yes its on this server
[06:09] <pvd2006> I Got limewire and java working right, thanks.  Now I am trying to access my files that are on my windows partition. it shows up as /hdc1 but it wont show or let me access any of the files inside of it.
[06:09] <am3r1ca> dabaR ok i pasted it
[06:09] <lastetn> cilynx so i cant chosse betewn the windows and ubuntu
[06:09] <dabaR> am3r1ca: show output of just dmesg
[06:09] <alimh> chuckyp: thanks. this is great!
[06:09] <Falstius> alimh: you write the script as if you were root and then run sudo script ...
[06:09] <chuckyp> alimh, I know you can do it i'm just not sure how.  i'm sure they would know
[06:10] <lastetn> cilynx i think ubuntu havent detect the other os will installing
[06:10] <Grark> ok let's start backwards.
[06:10] <Xenguy> hurdy gurdy man...
[06:10] <_jason> ReWT_: ``We support only i386 mainly because thats all weve got'' http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[06:10] <chuckyp> alimh, yeah thats the way to do it.
[06:10] <Grark> how do I uninstall a program
[06:10] <lastetn> i just installed dapper
[06:10] <chuckyp> Falstius, but he wants to bind it to a key also
[06:10] <ReWT_> so what do i do about these errors?
[06:10] <_jason> ReWT_: get rid of the two plf line sin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:10] <Xenguy> Grark: dpkg -r (if it's an installed package)
[06:10] <am3r1ca> dabaR ok i sent it
[06:11] <cilynx> lastetn: you're saying that when you boot, it doesn't give you the menu, it just boots Ubuntu, right?  I'm assuming that it throws a "press ESC to show the menu" really quickly on boot... look in your /boot/grub/menu.lst for hiddenmenu and comment it out
[06:11] <iGotNoTime> If in Gnome I use desklets, what is it people use in KDE?
[06:11] <darkmatter> hey, can someone help answer a noobs questions on WiFi and Dual booting?
[06:11] <Grark> god I'm lost.
[06:11] <lastetn> cilynx it is not comment
[06:11] <iGotNoTime> I know it is relative and desklets can be used in KDE but it is a general question
[06:11] <Xenguy> Grark: well, what do you want to do next?
[06:11] <lastetn> cilynx and when i press esc nothing happens
[06:11] <ReWT_> _jason....is there any I can add onto it?
[06:12] <cilynx> lastetn: if it is not comment out, then the menu will be hidden on boot.  if you comment it out, it will give you the menu on boot.
[06:12] <Grark> I want to unstall and reinstall azarus
[06:12] <Grark> azureus
[06:12] <lastetn> cilynx so u want me to put the #
[06:12] <cilynx> lastetn: the "press ESC for menu" is only up for a short time on boot, you can miss it if not paying attention
[06:12] <chuckyp> Grark, sudo apt-get reinstall azureus
[06:12] <_jason> ReWT_: I don't know of any repos like plf that support amd64, but I don't use 64bit so I don't know much about it
[06:12] <cilynx> lastetn: yup (as per the #)
[06:13] <Grark> I'm ok
[06:13] <chuckyp> Grark, wat that won't work
[06:13] <Grark> so far.
[06:13] <nickrud> Grark, a shortcut for that might be just removing azureus's config in your home dir.
[06:13] <Grark> I found the package in synaptic
[06:13] <ReWT_> Okay....well anyone here running 64 bit with updated repos?
[06:13] <Grark> and uninstalling
[06:13] <Xenguy> Grark: I've read the buffer and I can't help, sorry
[06:13] <darkmatter> is anyone free to answer some questions?
[06:13] <dabaR> am3r1ca: but you can use all the drives, or no?
[06:13] <ReWT_> darkmatter, what questions?
[06:14] <Xenguy> darkmatter: that's the whole point :-)
[06:14] <epimeteo> good morning, everybody
[06:14] <chuckyp> Grark, you can just remove it and install it again I know theres a way to reinstall with one command I ust can't think of it now.
[06:14] <ReWT_> Morning epimeteo
[06:14] <nickrud> good morning epimeteo
[06:14] <chuckyp> !ask
[06:14] <pvd2006> 604 is a lot of people, must be hard to keep up with everyone, is there more than one support channel for ubuntu?
[06:14] <dabaR> good morning only to those to whom it is morning...:P
[06:14] <_jason> chuckyp, Grark: apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[06:14] <Xenguy> Grark: search for 'reinstall' stuff
[06:14] <Xenguy> yes
[06:14] <ReWT_> Anyone here running 64 bit with updated repos?
[06:14] <chuckyp> there it is
[06:14] <lastetn> cilynx can u help me editing the menu?
[06:14] <darkmatter> so, Im a complete noob, tried the ubuntu 5.10 live cd
[06:14] <chuckyp> _jason, ty bro
[06:15] <darkmatter> and was impressed
[06:15] <ReWT_> okay, so what is the problem?
[06:15] <Xenguy> darkmatter: that's A-OK
[06:15] <darkmatter> the only thing that got me was i couldnt connect to my wifi
[06:15] <nalioth> ReWT_: don't repeat so often, please
[06:15] <Grark> Ok everyone, I've now uninstalled and reinstalled the appz, still getting the same "error" launching them.
[06:15] <cilynx> lastetn: what are you looking to do with it?
[06:15] <am3r1ca> dabaR yeah i use everything and all the partitions mount
[06:15] <ReWT_> Do you have an integrated or external?
[06:15] <_jason> Grark: what error and what apps?
[06:15] <darkmatter> I have a belgin G router
[06:15] <darkmatter> belkin*
[06:15] <chuckyp> darkfires, what type of net card
[06:15] <lastetn> cilynx i think something is wrong there
[06:15] <epimeteo> i downloaded ubuntu dapper livecd today, did anybody tried the expresso to install it_
[06:15] <ReWT_> Uh huh.....and your card?
[06:15] <Falstius> Grark: have you tried launching them from the command line?  That way you can see error messages.
[06:15] <Grark> _jason azureus and Vmware mysteriously launch, then disappear
[06:15] <nalioth> you folks, it works better if you preface the nick of the person you are talking to to your posts
[06:15] <GigaByte_> help me
[06:15] <chuckyp> darkmatter, what type of net card do you have?
[06:16] <Grark> no I haven't Falstius
[06:16] <cilynx> lastetn: what is it doing as opposed to what do you want it to be doing?
[06:16] <darkmatter> and I tried it on a computer with an internal wifi card and a usb one
[06:16] <nalioth> epimeteo: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper talk
[06:16] <Grark> I'll try now
[06:16] <_jason> Grark: any output to the terminal?
[06:16] <chuckyp> darkmatter, what type of wifi card do you want to get to work
[06:16] <darkfires> chuckyp it has a tlan 10/100 onboard, but i don't see why cemu would try to use my net card
[06:16] <epimeteo> ok nalioth! thanks
[06:16] <lastetn> cilynx it is not showing the menu
[06:16] <darkfires> oh sorry
[06:16] <darkfires> wrong window.
[06:16] <ReWT_> lol
[06:17] <am3r1ca> dabaR i am going to restart to see what it says exactly.. thanx alot for the help :D
[06:17] <ReWT_> darkmatter, what type of card are you trying to use? Is it supported?
[06:17] <cilynx> lastetn: once you comment out the hiddenmenu line and reboot, it still doesn't show the menu?
[06:17] <Falstius> lastetn: there might be a message when it is booting that says "press any key in the next 3 2 1 seconds to see the GRUB menu"
[06:17] <chuckyp> darkfires, lol
[06:17] <chuckyp> darkmatter, what type of wifi card do you have?
[06:17] <silvaran> Falstius: I think it's ESC
[06:17] <nate_> so anyone know of any good docs on the ubuntu-installer and preseeding and whatnot?
[06:18] <darkmatter> I have a belkin g router
[06:18] <darkmatter> and I tried the live cd on 2 computers
[06:18] <ReWT_> I know....what wireless card?
[06:18] <chuckyp> darkmatter, I know what router you have
[06:18] <lastetn> Falstius & cilynx let me try agin
[06:18] <darkmatter> 1 with a usb wifi card
[06:18] <darkmatter> and 1 with an internal one
[06:18] <ReWT_> You need a router and a card for wireless to work mate.
[06:18] <Falstius> silvaran: maybe ... I reboot my machine once every few months.
[06:18] <GigaByte_> i'm will find  for manual that it's was develop the linux dritribution on ubuntu
[06:18] <silvaran> Falstius: That's a good sign ;)
[06:18] <ReWT_> What brand is the card?
[06:18] <chuckyp> darkmatter, jesus what KIND OF USB CARD MODEL MAKE ETC....
[06:18] <GigaByte_> help
[06:18] <GigaByte_> i'm will find  for manual that it's was develop the linux dritribution on ubuntu
[06:18] <darkmatter> I said.... Belkin
[06:18] <nalioth> !wireless
[06:18] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:18] <ReWT_> Thats the router...
[06:18] <darkmatter> the router and the card are belkin
[06:18] <ReWT_> Okay.
[06:18] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, what are you looking for?
[06:18] <darkmatter> 802.11 g 54mbps
[06:19] <ReWT_> -.-
[06:19] <ReWT_> is the card in?
[06:19] <darkmatter> yes
[06:19] <darkmatter> well, its usb
[06:19] <darkmatter> so sorta
[06:19] <ReWT_> type ifconfig
[06:19] <darkmatter> not in the case
[06:19] <ReWT_> see the card anywhere?
[06:19] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,note ubuntu
[06:19] <darkmatter> but, functioning
[06:19] <darkmatter> in the terminal?
[06:19] <chuckyp> darkmatter, the router doens't matter jus thte card ifyou follow the link above about wireless it will tell you how to install it.
[06:19] <ReWT_> yes
[06:19] <darkmatter> ifconfig
[06:19] <ReWT_> yes
[06:20] <darkmatter> ok, ill try that
[06:20] <chuckyp> darkmatter, please stop using enter as punctuation.  READ ^^^^^
[06:20] <GigaByte_> Madpilot, devolop of  distribution on ubuntu
[06:20] <GigaByte_> Madpilot, develop of  distribution on ubuntu
[06:20] <Xenguy> !terminal
[06:20] <chuckyp> ReWT_, he needs ndiswrapper drivers
[06:20] <GigaByte_> Madpilot, note maual
[06:20] <darkmatter> then what?  In the networks menu there was no option for WifI or to add one
[06:20] <GigaByte_> Madpilot, how to access
[06:20] <chuckyp> darkmatter, you need drivers if you would read the link above
[06:20] <chuckyp> !tell darkmatter about wifi
[06:21] <chuckyp> !tell darkmatter about wireless
[06:21] <chuckyp> darkmatter, there read the link ubotu sent you.
[06:21] <ReWT_> That's where I was getting to with this :-P
[06:21] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, I do not know which manuals you want. The regular Ubuntu manuals are at http://help.ubuntu.com/
[06:21] <darkmatter> ive been there'
[06:21] <TSCHAK> is there a way to make my laptop suspend when I close the lid?
[06:21] <TSCHAK> without hacking the acpid scripts?
[06:21] <alimh>  would it be bad to do "chmod a+w /proc/.../brightness" so that way i don't have to sudo everytime?
[06:21] <dabaR> TSCHAK: there probably is, just a command...
[06:21] <chuckyp> darkmatter, well you need the ndiswrapper drivers for you card.
[06:21] <ltR20> Hello I installed ubuntu (first time linux user) - I can't get a 1280x1024 Resolution and my gamma is dark and i would like to increase it how do i do it? Thanks!
[06:21] <ReWT_> Any one have all the 64 bit repos?
[06:21] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,ok
[06:21] <chuckyp> alimh, yes
[06:22] <cilynx> ltR20: what's your video hardware?
[06:22] <chuckyp> alimh, i think that might mess some stuff up but hell why not try it.
[06:22] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,i'm will the plan
[06:22] <ltR20> cilynx, nvidia 4800se 128meg
[06:22] <Madpilot> ltR20, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:22] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:22] <vdv> hi everybody
[06:22] <chuckyp> alimh, I would try it and goof around like unplug the power etc.. make sure when it switches back down it doesn't blow up.  restart allt hat good stuff.
[06:22] <Madpilot> ltR20, the Nvidia link too ^^^
[06:22] <volCOM_b0i> !nvidia
[06:22] <alimh> chuckyp: lol. well, it seems like it works. i'm the only one using my laptop... so i'll stick with it
[06:23] <Grark> FINALLY found it..... where do I output the errors I'm seeing?
[06:23] <chuckyp> alimh, yeah did you make a shell script then and bind it to a key?
[06:23] <silvaran> !paste
[06:23] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:23] <cilynx> ltR20: what they said =)   Read the doco, nVidia is well supported.  Feel free to PM me if you run into issues, I run nVidia on all my machines
[06:23] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,i'm make for linux that  ubuntu will be modify to relases for in plan
[06:23] <vdv> I'm using Ubuntu 5.04.  why can't I mount sata disk?
[06:23] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, what is your native language?
[06:23] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,i'm sorry''
[06:24] <dabaR> vdv: cause we do not know what you have tried so far.
[06:24] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,i'm not enlinsh
[06:24] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, it's OK, but there are Ubuntu channels for lots of languages
[06:24] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,ok
[06:24] <vdv> is there support for sata in ubuntu?
[06:24] <dabaR> yes.
[06:24] <Madpilot> vdv, yes, my only HD is SATA
[06:24] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,i'm form The Korean
[06:24] <dabaR> vdv: what have you tried?
[06:24] <cilynx> vdv: I know there is support from Breezy (5.10) on, not sure about Hoary (5.04)
[06:24] <alimh> chuckyp: that's the plan....
[06:25] <nalioth> is there an #ubuntu-kr ?
[06:25] <volCOM_b0i> Has anyone changed their repos to dapper and dist-upgrade yet?  If so, how stable was it?
[06:25] <dabaR> nalioth: is there a /j;-P
[06:25] <vdv> i've got hoary one
[06:25] <silvaran> volCOM_b0i: I had great luck here, but that's anecdotal.
[06:25] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,it's placed
[06:25] <nalioth> volCOM_b0i: it's a development distro
[06:25] <Grark> ok I just posted it
[06:25] <alimh> chuckyp: but i want the script to remember the previous state..
[06:25] <silvaran> Grark: If you want other people in the room to see it, you're going to have to post the URL :)
[06:25] <cilynx> volCOM_b0i: I did an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper a while ago and have had few problems.  It did require an hour of messing with broken deps to get everything working though.  ymmv
[06:25] <Grark> doh
[06:25] <chuckyp> alimh, or you can give your user access tot he /proc/.../brightness in sudoers
[06:25] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,it's placed from the koreat in chnnel
[06:26] <Grark> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10193
[06:26] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,however it's not anwser
[06:26] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, try #ubuntu-ko for Korean help
[06:26] <chuckyp> alimh, i dunno i'm not that far into shell scripts yet.
[06:26] <GigaByte_> Madpilot,ok
[06:26] <vdv> is a good idea make LFS using ubuntu 5.04 hoary?
[06:26] <Samineru> Does anyone know how t make it so when image viewer goes to the next image in a series it does not squeeze it to the window size but leaves it zoomed 1:1?
[06:26] <volCOM_b0i> I am currently running ubuntu on a laptop, so I am worried that something important may be broken.  I have a bug with gnome-power-manager, so that is my motive for a dist-upgrade as I read it has been fixed in newer versions.
[06:26] <alimh> chuckyp: i read man sudoers.. but dono't really understand it
[06:26] <silvaran> Grark: That's an awfully weird error... did you try googling for wt-pi-gtk or update your swt libraries?
[06:27] <cilynx> vdv: in my experience, you can build LFS from just about anything with a bash shell and a toolchain
[06:27] <chuckyp> volCOM_b0i, dist-upgrade should be used instead of upgrade anyways.  Its a smart upgrade
[06:27] <Nembutal> Does anyone know what setup tools are the most needed in ubuntu atm=?
[06:27] <Nembutal> or most  requested?
[06:27] <vdv> by the way, it doesn't build from fedora core
[06:27] <Nembutal> I'm planning to write some tool
[06:28] <Nembutal> but don't know yet about what. First planned about a centralized tv card setup tool
[06:28] <Nembutal> vdv, I guess we don't need them :)
[06:28] <Nembutal> they are porting yast2 to debian
[06:28] <Grark> ok silvaran I'm going to try vmware now
[06:28] <Nembutal> ... even though, I haven't seen much progress lately
[06:28] <Nembutal> =(
[06:28] <cilynx> volCOM_b0i: one of my Breezy -> Dapper upgrades was on the VPR Matrix 220a5 that I'm on right now.  Again, it took some playing with deps, but it runs nicer now than it did with Breezy
[06:28] <nekostar> eh
[06:29] <nekostar> ok.
[06:29] <silvaran> Grark: Uh, okay...
[06:29] <Madpilot> nalioth, try !msg ubotu ko
[06:29] <Nembutal> cilynx, dapper runs remarkably faster than breezy :)
[06:29] <vdv> fedora really silly distrib
[06:29] <vdv> that's true
[06:29] <Nembutal> wenn I installed it the frist time, I really wondered about the speed
[06:29] <dabaR> vdv: no flaming here.
[06:29] <Nembutal> vdv, fedora has no advances t o me somehow
[06:29] <ReWT_> Fedora destroyed me.
[06:29] <nekostar> how do i set keepsettings for my hdd in hdparm when it wont let me?
[06:29] <volCOM_b0i> Yes, I heard that gnome 2.14 was faster than 2.12
[06:29] <Nembutal> The software list isn't quite as big as ubuntus or suse
[06:29] <vdv> sorry, I don't mean it
[06:29] <cilynx> Numbutal: I've noticed that overall.  The hardware support, particularly hotplug and laptop junk seems to work much nicer as well.
[06:29] <Nembutal> and the hardware recognition is still far behind
[06:29] <hav0k> hi, im wondering how to use *.run files.  i tried just clicking on them, but it brings up gedit and says it cant view the file.  how can i run the *.run file so it will install?
[06:30] <Nembutal> but I like it , that they help gnome :)
[06:30] <chuckyp> ********  Here difference between apt-get update,upgrade,and dist-upgrade I'm tired of arguiing.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10195
[06:30] <Nembutal> hav0k, chmod +x file.run
[06:30] <nekostar> and how else can i make dma=on permenant
[06:30] <Nembutal> if it has a execute flag
[06:30] <chuckyp> volCOM_b0i, yes in .14 I see speed increases
[06:30] <Nembutal> nekostar, with a script at boottime
[06:30] <chuckyp> volCOM_b0i, but if you ar eworried about you laptop crashing dapper is not the answer.
[06:30] <hav0k> Nembutal, oh, i didnt know the permissions werent already set
[06:30] <Nembutal> hav0k, gnome asks you if it has an execute flag if you want to look at it with a texteditor
[06:30] <mtopf> hi
[06:30] <Nembutal> or to execute it
[06:31] <dabaR> Hi, mtopf
[06:31] <Nembutal> (damn, I love gnome :))
[06:31] <mtopf> hi dabar
[06:31] <hav0k> oh
[06:31] <cilynx> nekostar: "man hdparm" I think the flag to keep settings is '-k'.  If that doesn't work, i think there is a hdparm script in /etc/init.d where you can set your hdparm settings on boot
[06:31] <dabaR> mtopf: just read a little.
[06:31] <Nembutal> user friendly is a way underrated term for gnome / ubuntu
[06:31] <mtopf> dabar: aiight homie
[06:32] <pvd2006> how do you figure out what your NTFS windows partition is called under /dev directory? I see hda, hdc1, 2, 3, 4
[06:32] <chuckyp> !ntfs
[06:32] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:32] <chuckyp> pvd2006, ^^
[06:32] <pvd2006> Thanks
[06:32] <AshyIsMe> i'm trying to apt-get install java-package but java-package can't be found apparently
[06:33] <ltR20> WHAT'S THE DEFAULT ROOT PWD for a ubuntu install?
[06:33] <cilynx> pvd2006: if you know which hard drive it is on, you can fdisk that hard drive and do a 'p' for 'print' and that will show you what filesystem is on each individual partition
[06:33] <AshyIsMe> i've enabled all the repositories in synaptic package manager
[06:33] <ltR20> the installer never asked me
[06:33] <bimberi> !tell ltR20 about root
[06:33] <alimh> exit
[06:33] <volCOM_b0i> OK, has anyone experience a bug with gnome-power-manager that when you unplug and close the lid to suspend it ruins suspend all together?  It will only suspend when I log out now..
[06:33] <Madpilot> ltR20, there is no root pw working - use sudo & your own user pw
[06:34] <volCOM_b0i> My laptop would suspend fine until this.
[06:34] <merc> how can i find out what version of ubuntu im running?
[06:34] <bimberi> merc: lsb_release -a
[06:34] <merc> ie. breezy badger 3million etc..
[06:34] <merc> ah, thanks
[06:34] <hav0k> thanks so much Nembutal
[06:34] <dabaR> pvd2006: you would "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:34] <hav0k> ive been trying to figure out run files for awhile now, and everyone i asked didnt help at all
[06:35] <volCOM_b0i> you need to chmod the run file to executable. and ./run_file.run in a terminal
[06:36] <cilynx> hav0k: .run is a B.S. file extension for a shell script.  If you "chmod +x" the file, then you can run it like "./blah.run" or if you double click on it, it should ask if you want to execute it
[06:36] <dabaR> AshyIsMe: that is in debian, or in some old version of ubuntu, like maybe warty, or it is an extraneous package. There is no Sun Java in Ubuntu, cause it is not free. You can read about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:36] <pvd2006> cool I found it
[06:37] <dabaR> pvd2006: ya, it shows there readily visible.
[06:37] <pvd2006> If, it tells me that I dont have persmission to view the contents of hdc1 does that mean I need to sudo
[06:37] <AshyIsMe> dabaR: thanks
[06:37] <Nembutal> hav0k, no problem
[06:37] <hav0k> well, later doods
[06:37] <Nembutal> hav0k, keep asking if you got probems
[06:37] <dabaR> no, it means you need to mount better. or if you like using sudo for something like that...
[06:37] <Nembutal> whoops :/
[06:37] <Nembutal> pvd2006, how did you access it?
[06:37] <Nembutal> gnome volume manager?
[06:37] <volCOM_b0i> dab i installed  j2sdk1.4 and my java applications run fine
[06:38] <pvd2006> yes, I used the file browser in gnome
[06:38] <silvaran> Yarrr... why can't the ntfs driver just set the umask to world-readable?.. is there a logical reason behind that?
[06:38] <pvd2006> to try to access it
[06:38] <chuckyp> pvd2006, if its ntfs you have to mount it ro,user,auto like the page says
[06:38] <lastetn> !pastebin
[06:38] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:38] <silvaran> Everybody and their dog has an ntfs volume by now, it should be user-readable on first boot...
[06:38] <ale_> to all: thanks a lot for your help, now i got the sound working and all the codecs installed. I've been using ubuntu for a year, but since in my previous computer ubuntu installed itself with no problems at all, i hadnt needed to learn anything. Thanks again
[06:38] <volCOM_b0i> I can run limewire and I installed the mozilla-java deb as well and that works fine too.
[06:38] <Badm4n> question for newbie : help me pls :( how to clear history on root access and/or user access
[06:39] <dabaR> volCOM_b0i: that is the blackdown Java. It is shown on that page, I believe. Go read and tell me.
[06:39] <silvaran> Badm4n: Delete ~/.bash_history
[06:39] <mconroy> Can anyone tell me how to setup xwindows to support my widescreen laptop display?
[06:39] <Badm4n> ty
[06:39] <silvaran> Badm4n: Assuming that's what you want ... ??
[06:39] <silvaran> Heh
[06:40] <cilynx> mconroy: depends on the display
[06:40] <volCOM_b0i> yup, it is black down, i just looked.
[06:40] <cilynx> mconroy: what have you got?
[06:40] <mconroy> It is a Gateway 3550gz
[06:40] <dabaR> !fixres
[06:40] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <mconroy> ok
[06:40] <nate_> anyone who wants to know more about the ubuntu installer and how to customize and whatnot, check out: someone on ubuntu-boot pointed me to a VERY useful doc (well, so far): http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/
[06:41] <zedzero> how can i generate a .xsession file? without it, i can not startx...
[06:41] <dabaR> That shows you some things. Or just google for "<your monitor> refresh rates" and follow the instructions on that page for adding them.
[06:41] <manji> hey how does one kill a running X server?
[06:41] <nate_> i was hassling you all earlier and thought I should show you the outcome
[06:41] <silvaran> manji: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[06:41] <manji> ah, thank you, thats right
[06:41] <nate_> manji, kill or restart?
[06:41] <silvaran> manji: Or from a separate terminal, killall -9 X :)
[06:41] <lastetn> cilynx watch this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10197
[06:41] <siglaptop> anyone know how to get the yahoo part working for gaim?
[06:41] <chuckyp> manji, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:41] <lastetn> cilynx wich of them shold i use
[06:41] <siglaptop> seems not to be able to connect
[06:42] <dabaR> siglaptop: it works here.
[06:42] <siglaptop> hrrmm
[06:42] <siglaptop> no here
[06:42] <Badm4n> :) thx
[06:42] <dabaR> no s***
[06:42] <Badm4n> oh yes one more
[06:42] <siglaptop> I'm using 1.5.0
[06:42] <nate_> zedzero, seriously, you should just reinstall normally, install xdm and fluxbox, then reconfigure x to use those
[06:42] <dabaR> siglaptop: that is not even in ubuntu, is it? dapper?
[06:42] <nate_> zedzero, you would already have it done otherwise
[06:42] <siglaptop> no
[06:42] <zedzero> nate_, i tried that but then uninstalling gnome make things even worse
[06:43] <nate_> zedzero, why uninstall it?
[06:43] <nate_> zedzero, is hard drive space that precious?
[06:43] <Badm4n> i have connected to ISP by cable modem that use dynamic ip ... every n minuetes my resolve.conf always back with line 1 search ispname
[06:43] <silvaran> dabaR: 1.5.0 is in dapper.
[06:43] <zedzero> nate_, because i dont need it, i will never use it, and i need the diskspace badly :)
[06:43] <Badm4n> even i have change it to nameserver 191.168.1.254
[06:43] <nate_> zedzero, having it installed does not = having it running
[06:43] <Badm4n> how to make it fix
[06:43] <cilynx> lastetn: you've got a whole slew of kernel packages installed.   If you're running the most up to date (check with 'cat /proc/version') you can safely apt-get uninstall the rest of them.  After that, 'update-grub' will automatically rebuild your menu to use the kernel you have installed.
[06:43] <dabaR> silvaran: :/
[06:43] <yuri_> good evening guys, could some expert help me out? I encrypted a file on windows using systweak file encryptor, how do i decrypt that file in ubuntu?
[06:43] <nate_> zedzero, ahhh, i see
[06:44] <volCOM_b0i> Badm4n, get a router :)
[06:44] <nate_> zedzero, isn't there an xubuntu?
[06:44] <Badm4n> huhuehueueh
[06:44] <cafuego> yuri_: my guess would be "not".
[06:44] <dabaR> !info gaim
[06:44] <dabaR> :/
[06:44] <Badm4n> :(
[06:44] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[06:44] <siglaptop> I'm not using dapper
[06:44] <Badm4n> i mean on my ubuntu server
[06:44] <zedzero> nate_, what is xubuntu?
[06:44] <Badm4n> :(
[06:44] <silvaran> Oh there's breezy too..
[06:44] <nate_> zedzero, xubuntu with x instead of gnome or kde
[06:44] <silvaran> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <Badm4n> is there any ways to make it fix
[06:44] <Badm4n>  ?
[06:44] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:44] <dabaR> Which is strange to me...it should not be there.
[06:44] <siglaptop> seems to be breezy stuff in my sources.list
[06:45] <nate_> zedzero, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:45] <volCOM_b0i> Sorry Badm4n, my servers have all been behind a router.
[06:45] <zedzero> nate_, now im confused... i thought x is just like a framework for desktop enviroments to run. isnt it? hwo can it run on its own?
[06:45] <Iceman> whats the live cd file system ?
[06:45] <Badm4n> :(
[06:45] <Badm4n> i c
[06:45] <cilynx> zedzero: xubuntu uses a lightweight desktop manager...i think it uses Xfce
[06:45] <bimberi> !xubuntu
[06:45] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:45] <volCOM_b0i> yup, xfce, it is very nice.
[06:45] <silvaran> zedzero: xubuntu-desktop uses XFCE, another desktop environment... it's a little more lightweight.
[06:46] <nate_> very lightweight, xfce is
[06:46] <cilynx> well, i think we've driven that point into the ground =)
[06:46] <Badm4n> anyone knows how to make screensaver auto run on idle x second ? ( i want it will load "cmatrix" on idle )
[06:46] <Iceman> crap how to install a complete custom linux distro ... ;(
[06:46] <zedzero> i tried xfce, and its still heavy for my notebook... i think i will insist on fluxbox :)
[06:46] <silvaran> Heh
[06:46] <nekostar> Nembutal, cilynx command_line { hdparm -q -c1 -q -d1 -q -m16 -q -A1 -q -W0 /dev/hdc hdparm -q -c1 -q -d1 -q -m16 -q -A1 -q -W0 /dev/hdd }
[06:46] <nekostar> can i do that?
[06:46] <AshyIsMe> zedzero: fvwm is good also
[06:46] <Iceman> been trying for 3 day to build a install ...
[06:46] <AshyIsMe> and much more customizable
[06:46] <nekostar> [more than one line in the command_line { thing?
[06:46] <nekostar> or do i need to do more than one command line?
[06:47] <volCOM_b0i> Iceman, google Linux from Scratch
[06:47] <lastetn> cilynx how do i desinstall the others apt-get uninstall kernel 2.6.15-18-386?
[06:47] <Nembutal> nekostar, mh?
[06:47] <Nembutal> what is cilynx ??
[06:47] <nate_> zedzero, it's cool, just that xfce takes much less space than gnome, i'm pretty sure, so installing flux alongside that wouldn't be so hard-disk-space intensive
[06:47] <Nembutal> nekostar, actually
[06:47] <silvaran> Nembutal: Somebody's handle in this channel :)
[06:47] <Nembutal> wait a second
[06:47] <nate_> zedzero, but it would simplify the installation
[06:47] <Nembutal> ill show you an example for hdparm
[06:47] <Nembutal> on nopaste
[06:47] <Nembutal> for a script
[06:47] <nekostar> thanx
[06:48] <Iceman> volCOM_b0i you kow of a distro that will still install to a fat 32 partition ...
[06:48] <nekostar> the /etc/hdparm.conf ?
[06:48] <nate_> zedzero, but I'll try to google about creating a .xsession file
[06:48] <cilynx> nekostar: looks good to me
[06:48] <nekostar> cilynx, i used two lines there... hdparm starts a line.. *goes to paste hehe*
[06:48] <nekostar> !paste
[06:48] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:48] <cilynx> lastetn: yup "apt-get uninstall [package name] 
[06:48] <zedzero> nate_, ok then. so what should i do now? should i reinstall with gnome, get xubuntu images and write on cd and then reinstall??
[06:48] <AlbanianLord> ive recently tried to compile adesklets on breezy and I keep getting this libiconv error. I installed it, so I don't know whats going on.
[06:49] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10198   <<<------ that
[06:49] <AlbanianLord> any help would be appreciated
[06:49] <volCOM_b0i> I install to a ext3 paritition, and use fat32 for mounts so that it is available in both windows and linux
[06:49] <Nembutal> nekostar, ne sec
[06:49] <Nembutal> oh, right
[06:49] <Iceman> volCOM_b0i where to find a linux distro, that can install in fat32
[06:49] <Nembutal> hdparm.conf
[06:49] <Nembutal> http://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=e8c86f1775
[06:49] <Nembutal> stupid me
[06:49] <nate_> zedzero, hmmm, isn't there an xubuntu cd?  let me look
[06:49] <nekostar> yes thats in hdparm.conf :)
[06:49] <Nembutal> but this would work also
[06:49] <axisys> hey guys.. when i run irdadump I see it finds nokia 6101
[06:49] <Nembutal> you could just link a start script
[06:49] <nekostar> o.O
[06:50] <cilynx> nekostar: as a straight command line, it looks good to me.  the idea of doing a conf file isn't a bad one though
[06:50] <axisys> but now how do i ping and connect
[06:50] <p01n7> Iceman, DSL runs under fat32 and dos i think
[06:50] <zedzero> nate_, i only have core ubuntu cd. no kubuntu, no xubuntu, no edubuntu :)
[06:50] <nekostar> i like that bash script thingie too ... how does one get that to actually run?
[06:50] <p01n7> a.k.a: Damn Small Linux
[06:50] <Iceman> dsl have kde ?
[06:50] <nekostar> and does noflushd interfere with hdparm ?
[06:50] <unfo_> Iceman: yes. get D***SmallLinux Embedded.
[06:50] <nekostar> dsl is great to play with :P
[06:51] <cilynx> Iceman: Damn Small Linux can run inside of Windows, else you can use the VMWare Player (which is free) to run "appliances" of many different flavors
[06:51] <unfo_> Iceman: it's much slower than an ordinary linux distro tho.
[06:51] <AlbanianLord> so does anyone have a solution for my problem?
[06:51] <Iceman> package managmet ... how buildable ..
[06:51] <p01n7> been awhile since i ran it
[06:51] <unfo_> VMW Player is faster.
[06:51] <manji> alright, so i run the nvidia official driver installer, and it tells me that i need gcc-3.4 to work properly
[06:51] <Iceman> p4 2.8 should preform ok ...
[06:51] <axisys> i was using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkpadT40IrdaHowto?highlight=irda
[06:51] <manji> so how can i get that to work?
[06:51] <nate_> zedzero, hmmm, ok, nevermind the xubuntu, lets continue from where you left off with getting this running, what is your next step?
[06:51] <p01n7> Dragon linux will run from dos
[06:51] <zedzero> nate_, i just learned that i can install xubuntu by just installing xubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <Nembutal> nekostar, tried puppy linux?
[06:51] <axisys> but i have a nc6220
[06:51] <cilynx> AlbanianLord: why are you complining instead of installing the prefab package?
[06:51] <Nembutal> puppy linux uses fvwm or something alike
[06:51] <nate_> zedzero, so do that? :D
[06:51] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: What iconv error?
[06:51] <Nembutal> I like the win95 style
[06:51] <Nembutal> plain simple and useful
[06:51] <Nembutal> :)
[06:52] <zedzero> nate_, i will now :)
[06:52] <cilynx> manji: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[06:52] <Nembutal> but compared to win95
[06:52] <nate_> zedzero, let me know :)
[06:52] <Nembutal> it is stable ;I
[06:52] <AlbanianLord> ill paste it silvaran
[06:52] <manji> cilynx: yeah but the system wants to use gcc-4.0 only
[06:52] <Iceman> p01n7 tried dragon, lacks newer hardware support, and just had bash runnung
[06:52] <silvaran> manji: Why not get the prepackaged one (linux-restricted-modules or whatever)
[06:52] <lastetn> cilynx "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-" isn't it this way
[06:52] <pvd2006> It is not giving me persmission to change the settings for hdc1 which is my NTFS partition it keeps saying permission denied and I followed the guide I tried the script and the manual way.
[06:52] <Iceman> p01n7 d s l has what packages available ...
[06:53] <nekostar> Nembutal, nope not tried p l ... heard it was fun htough
[06:53] <manji> silvaran: i was told (by the website) that i should get rid of those, should i get it back and try again?
[06:53] <p01n7> Iceman, i'm on Mandrivia now .. and i love it.. dsl, being 50 mb's, doesnt have many apps.. but you can change that
[06:53] <cilynx> lastetn: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.12-9-386" and such
[06:53] <manji> silvaran: im trying to get GLX working
[06:53] <silvaran> manji: Hang on, what link told you this?
[06:53] <axisys> i wonder if there is a infra read chnl for linux
[06:53] <axisys> where I can get sme help
[06:53] <Iceman> p01n7 whats app install like ... ?
[06:53] <silvaran> manji: The prepackaged stuff should work great...
[06:53] <chuckyp> axisys, what are you trying to do?
[06:54] <chuckyp> axisys, get ir working?
[06:54] <cilynx> manji: why not use the nvidia module in the restricted-modules package as opposed to building it?
[06:54] <axisys> chuckyp: yeap
[06:54] <p01n7> Very simple.. i think it boots like a live distro then you can install it after that
[06:54] <Nembutal> nekostar, it's well made
[06:54] <Nembutal> I like the gui
[06:54] <chuckyp> axisys, lirc is what youa re looking for
[06:54] <manji> silvaran: ubuntu.com, search 'nvidia', first found link, then the article on nvidia not working
[06:54] <Nembutal> I don't remember if it was fvwm95
[06:54] <p01n7> it's been awhile.. things may have chnaged
[06:54] <Iceman> p01n7 though i read it want to partition, i'll look again
[06:54] <manji> cilynx: because after a fresh install, glxgears were running horribly
[06:54] <axisys> so this is not good https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkpadT40IrdaHowto?highlight=irda
[06:54] <AlbanianLord> silvaran see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10199
[06:55] <pvd2006> it wont let me change anything in the etc/fstab file for the NTFS partition
[06:55] <chuckyp> axisys, let me see
[06:55] <cilynx> manji: did you check your glxinfo to make sure direct rendering was working?  i use GLX with the Ubuntu nVidia drivers
[06:55] <manji> cilynx: no, i didnt.
[06:56] <silvaran> !info adesklets
[06:56] <volCOM_b0i> pvd2006: to my knowledge, it isn't safe to edit contents of your ntfs partition from linux.
[06:56] <ubotu> adesklets: (interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.8-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 295 kB, Installed size: 1516 kB
[06:56] <lastetn> cilynx thanks i already did it
[06:56] <chuckyp> axisys, that should work
[06:56] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: I'm guessing you want a more recent version, which is why you're compiling yourself?
[06:56] <cilynx> manji: might want to do that.  "glxinfo | grep direct" should say yes, not no
[06:57] <manji> cilynx: direct rendering: no
[06:57] <axisys> chuckyp: but i have a nc6220 .. not thinkpad
[06:57] <manji> cilynx: but, this is after i uninstalled all my stuff
[06:57] <Iceman> p01n7 does dsl include x ... gnome ?
[06:57] <chuckyp> axisys, err lirc is for remote controls.  I don't know exactly what you ware trying to do.  But that wiki should work.
[06:57] <manji> cilynx: let me get back to you, and thanks for the help
[06:57] <cilynx> manji: np, i'll be around for a while
[06:57] <chuckyp> axisys, the packages arent' specifically for a thinkpad.  The only difference maybe the /dev/<devicename>
[06:58] <axisys> chuckyp: i am trying to download file to my phone
[06:58] <AlbanianLord> silvaran this is the output im getting from the adesklets
[06:58] <intelikey> does xorg   or gnome support the screen shots ?
[06:58] <axisys> chuckyp: how do i find what would be my device
[06:58] <Nembutal> intelikey, press print screen
[06:58] <chuckyp> axisys, I would just figure out which /dev/<name>  your irda port is on.
[06:58] <lastetn> cilynx thank u wery much
[06:58] <Nembutal> it takes a screensho and tkaes you to a dialog
[06:58] <p01n7> Iceman, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[06:58] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Are you on breezy or dapper?
[06:58] <p01n7> www.distrowatch.org for reviews
[06:58] <Nembutal> intelikey, or did I misunderstand you?
[06:58] <intelikey> Nembutal did that,   i have twm not gnome..
[06:58] <axisys> chuckyp: ifconfig shows irda0 up
[06:58] <p01n7> but this is #ubuntu
[06:59] <p01n7> not #dsl
[06:59] <cilynx> lastetn: np, feel free to ask if you run into anything else
[06:59] <AlbanianLord> breezy silvaran
[06:59] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Does "./configure --help" give you anything about enabling/disabling iconv support?
[06:59] <lastetn> cilynx thank u wery much
[06:59] <Iceman> p01n7 looking ... dont see gnome ... ;(
[07:00] <manji> cilynx: gonna give her a restart, brb
[07:00] <Suture__> ..
[07:00] <intelikey> Nembutal i was looking for a way to make a screen shot, yes.   but print screen doesn't seem to do anything in twm.
[07:00] <Grark> ok one program fixed...moving to next one.
[07:00] <lastetn> cilynx the las question, now i can install the xgl
[07:00] <Grark> just wanted to come back and say thanks to everyone for the encouragement
[07:00] <AlbanianLord> silvaran ill see
[07:00] <graveson> ubuntu 5.10 installs the incorrect kernel ,so i downloaded an installed -liunx-686 ,but i am sure my pc has a pentium 4 processor.is this the correct kernel?
[07:00] <chuckyp> axisys, hrm... I've never used ir like you are using it perhaps someone else here is.
[07:00] <volCOM_b0i> XGL and Compiz was painless with an nvidia card, haven't got it to work with my ati though :(
[07:01] <cilynx> does anyone know if the Dapper install is accessible such that a blind user can do their own install?
[07:01] <chuckyp> volCOM_b0i, was it worth the hassle?
[07:01] <AlbanianLord> negative silvaran
[07:01] <chuckyp> volCOM_b0i, I'm just forseeing the nightmares when I want to remove its pakcages and it wants to whipe gnome or something.
[07:01] <intelikey> graveson smp ?
[07:01] <axisys> chuckyp: thnx
[07:01] <nate_> WOW, XGL IS AWESOME!!!!
[07:02] <nate_> i've got it running, w00t!
[07:02] <graveson> intelikey: i am not sure ,how can i verify that ?
[07:02] <volCOM_b0i> It would crash randomly.  when running from xgl, it would start normally, but only start when i ran a script placed in the /usr/bin
[07:02] <intelikey> heheh graveson i don't know    all i have is old p1 stuff
[07:02] <lastetn> cilynx sorry disconnect, now i can install the xgl
[07:02] <Nembutal> intelikey, ah, yo uuse twm :)
[07:02] <Badm4n> how to make idle action on user that connect using putty ?
[07:02] <nate_> i'm running xgl from a livecd called kororaa
[07:03] <cilynx> have other people had issues with XGL/Compiz messing up if you change the keybindings?
[07:03] <Nembutal> doesn' work of course that way
[07:03] <Nembutal> start gimp
[07:03] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Argh... I have no idea... sorry
[07:03] <Nembutal> if you have it
[07:03] <volCOM_b0i> It wasn't usable, but fun to play with.  I found it crashed when I would type.
[07:03] <Nembutal> you can take a screenshot with gimp
[07:03] <cilynx> lastetn: np, have fun with it
[07:03] <chuckyp> Nembutal, you can take a screen shot with gnome
[07:03] <AlbanianLord> silvaran thanks anyway
[07:03] <volCOM_b0i> When I would type capital letters, XGL would always crash.
[07:03] <Nembutal> chuckyp, I just said that?
[07:03] <Nembutal> ^^
[07:03] <lastetn> cilynx do u know a good manual?
[07:03] <Nembutal> File->Get(? I got the german version, "Hole")
[07:03] <AlbanianLord> anyone know why im getting this blasted error?
[07:04] <cilynx> lastetn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[07:04] <chuckyp> Nembutal, Oh i'm not really reading
[07:04] <lastetn> ok thanks
[07:04] <Nembutal> maybe it's import instead of get
[07:04] <chuckyp> stupid printer istn' working.  arghhh
[07:04] <lastetn> ok bye
[07:04] <Nembutal> intelikey, did it work?
[07:04] <intelikey> Nembutal ok... no gimp either.  so it is gnome that is supporting screen shots     but i'm sure there is a cli way to print one frame of the vidio output.
[07:04] <graveson> how can i make sure that ,my installationis not using the default  installed kernel ,but the kernel  i  installed
[07:04] <carny> how do i check for opengl??
[07:04] <manji> cilynx: yeah so i re-installed what i figured was glx stuff, restarted, and now X doesnt even start with GLX
[07:04] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: After you run ./configure, try editing by hand config.in to change "HAVE_ICONV_H 1" to "HAVE_ICONV_H 0"
[07:04] <AlbanianLord> chuckyp try getting a cannon PIXMA to work!
[07:05] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Sorry, config.h I think
[07:05] <AlbanianLord> you think it will work
[07:05] <AlbanianLord> ?
[07:05] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Nope, but give it a shot anyways ;)
[07:05] <intelikey> Nembutal it's no biggy anyhow.   tanks for the  TOD
[07:05] <nekostar> ah
[07:05] <manji> cilynx: any ideas?
[07:05] <cilynx> manji: as in no direct rendering?  do you have the nvidia modules installed?  are you using the nvidia xorg module as opposed to nv? (I hope I'm on the right train of thought)
[07:05] <nekostar> i needed seperate lines for each drive in /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:06] <nekostar> and it didnt like the -q swith
[07:06] <nekostar> *switch
[07:06] <pvd2006> finally got it to work:)
[07:06] <volCOM_b0i> Yes, just because you've installed the nvidia-glx doesn't mean it will run unless you change the NV to nvidia in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:06] <manji> cilynx: X does not have GLX extensions running at all currently, and how does one go about using nvidia-xorg instead of nv?
[07:07] <pvd2006> I had to unmount the windows partition and delete its entry from the fstab file and re-run the script.
[07:07] <manji> cilynx: Driver "nvidia" instead of "nv"?
[07:07] <carny> hello.. how can i check if opengl is running??
[07:07] <volCOM_b0i> manji: change nv to nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:07] <cilynx> manji: as volCOM_B0i said, look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ..... yeah...what he said
[07:07] <intelikey> !tell manji about nvidia
[07:07] <AlbanianLord> no luck silvaran
[07:07] <silvaran> carny: glxinfo will give you that...
[07:08] <silvaran> AlbanianLord: Did you run a "make clean all"?
[07:08] <cilynx> carny: glxinfo will tell you a lot of good stuff
[07:08] <chuckyp> Helps if I was using proper drivers
[07:08] <chuckyp> lol
[07:08] <chuckyp> AlbanianLord, ^^
[07:08] <blueOrange> hi to all the ubu folks! im linux noob, have tried mandrake and i expect to install ubuntu on an IBM thinkpad t21 i ordered off ebay.
[07:09] <chuckyp> AlbanianLord, ahh poop out of ink too just greate
[07:09] <cilynx> blueOrange: greetings and salutations.  any questions?
[07:09] <carny> does that mean its not accelerated?
[07:09] <AlbanianLord> lol chuckyp
[07:09] <manji> cilynx: thanks so much, got everything working
[07:10] <cilynx> carny: "glxinfo|grep direct" will tell you if you have acceleration working or not
[07:10] <manji> cilynx: you have a good night
[07:10] <cilynx> manji: np.  congrats on getting it up and running.  you too.
[07:10] <carny>   OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:11] <AlbanianLord> no luck
[07:11] <chuckyp> AlbanianLord, well got enough ink to print the xgl instructions
[07:11] <cilynx> carny: what's your video hardware?
[07:11] <carny> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:11] <carny> its an ati mobility m1
[07:11] <blueOrange> i will want to buy a  pcmcia/card bus (is there a diference) 802.11g card for it right off. i have been looking at the list of suported cards at ubuntu.com .  Since i am sure this is a very common thing for people to buy, can anyone make a recomendation of a card they know works. I'd be looking to get the least expensive card that works well.
[07:11] <carny> so its a rage pro chipset.. 8mb ram
[07:11] <AlbanianLord> ahh chuckyp then all is not lost lol
[07:11] <CrashProne> So eh.. I installed Xgl on Ubuntu and it works great-- one thing, (this is more about "how do I use .Xsession" than Xgl) I changed the settings in ~/.Xsession after I ran it the first time, but it's still using the old settings.  How do I get it to... use the changed settings I set in .Xsession?
[07:11] <V4Vendetta> whats XGL ?
[07:12] <cilynx> carny: beyond my experience...  this will probably be helpful:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:12] <volCOM_b0i> I juse fglrx for my ati card
[07:12] <carny> thanx.. but thats not helpful.. been there
[07:12] <cilynx> V4Vendetta: XGL is eye candy.  Really nice eye candy
[07:12] <V4Vendetta> cilynx, how do i get it
[07:12] <Iceman> p01n7 whats package install like in dsl  ?
[07:12] <blueOrange> it can be a little confusing when looking at the list of suported cards and then trying to match that to the least expensive cards at, for instance, newegg.com as none of the less expensive ones are mentioned.
[07:12] <cilynx> V4Vendetta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[07:12] <silvaran> !tell V4Vendettaabout xgl
[07:13] <silvaran> Haha...
[07:13] <silvaran> !tell V4Vendetta about xgl
[07:13] <AlbanianLord> bah! I give up in this endeavor, but sooner or later I will succeed
[07:14] <AlbanianLord> and I will use adesklets to rule the world!
[07:14] <cilynx> blueOrange: for all intents and purposes pcmcia == card bus.  It's not really true, but it may as well be.  I have found the Prism54 chipset to be a nice 802.11g setup.
[07:14] <CrashProne> So yeah, can anybody tell me of ~/.Xsession (I'm unfamiliar-ish with its use) and how I'd get it to use the settings I just changed in it?
[07:14] <silvaran> CrashProne: Is there a "default" session in the list?
[07:15] <nekostar> ;p;
[07:15] <nekostar> lol
[07:15] <blueOrange> most of the sights i look at dont say which chipset a specific card uses, which makes it dificult to figure out.
[07:15] <nekostar> that looks like a glorified 3ddesktop
[07:15] <nekostar> anyone tried that?
[07:15] <nekostar> its rather kewl
[07:15] <nekostar> :D
[07:15] <CrashProne> silvaran: Yes, I used it, it worked.  But then I changed the settings in .Xsession , but default seemed to use the settings before I changed it..
[07:15] <volCOM_b0i> yes, XGL & COMPIZ, though very unstable, is very nice
[07:16] <silvaran> CrashProne: What if you change to another one, then change back? ;)
[07:16] <Grark> ok dumb question
[07:16] <silvaran> CrashProne: Sucks, but it's the only thing I can think of.
[07:16] <Grark> I seem to have "locked" apt-get in a session.
[07:16] <CrashProne> silvaran: tried that too. *sniff*
[07:16] <cilynx> blueOrange: I hate to put it this way, but "welcome to Linux".  You have already found the list of supported cards.  Beyond that, it's just good quality time with Google to find out what you need.
[07:16] <Grark> where's the equivilance to "task manager" to see the processes running and kill them?
[07:16] <volCOM_b0i> Grark, do you have synaptic running?
[07:16] <volCOM_b0i> Or any other Package manager?
[07:17] <Grark> volCOM_b0i, can't it says it can't get a lock
[07:17] <bradd_> Is there anything cool about Linux?
[07:17] <bradd_> Like... what can I do w/ it that I can't w/ anyother OS?
[07:17] <bradd_> besides get rid of Windows
[07:17] <Grark> volCOM_b0i, that's what I'm trying to undo
[07:17] <liable> ps aux, kill killall pkill and friends.
[07:17] <Blippe> Grark in terminal top and killall
[07:17] <cilynx> Grark: 'top' or 'ps aux' are good places to start
[07:17] <silvaran> Grark: If you can find the locked file (/var/lib/apt?) you can do an lsof ... but if you don't have lsof, you need to apt-get install it, which defeats the purpose ;)
[07:18] <farous> anyone using fluxbox here have a problem with presentations being out of screen in openoffice or powerpoint under wine
[07:18] <V4Vendetta> how do i get gtk+-2.0 i can't find it in apt
[07:18] <carny> how can i enable dri?????
[07:18] <cilynx> bradd: Advanced networking stuff is nice.  Not dealing with viruses is nice.  Switching what your interface looks like whenever you want is nice.  It's really just up to your preferences.
[07:18] <Grark> you guys are so smart :)
[07:18] <Grark> unlocked, thank you
[07:18] <V4Vendetta> !gtk
[07:18] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, V4Vendetta
[07:18] <volCOM_b0i> carny, you have ATI right? Have you tried to use the fglrx drivers instead of ATI?
[07:18] <Grark> just had to remove cd-rom from "source"
[07:19] <silvaran> Grark: What did it?
[07:19] <bradd_> what do you think of OSX?
[07:19] <chuckyp> ya xgl works
[07:19] <blueOrange> ok, thxs silynx. i guess i was hoping for a shortcut, but i should be able to figure out.  it just seemed like enough othher people must have figured this out recently that each new person shouldnt have to figure it out all over again! but yea, i got it.  well, im sure ill be back once i have ubuntu up and running! thxs.
[07:19] <V4Vendetta> how do i get gtk+-2.0 i can't find it in apt
[07:19] <cilynx> carny: look in your xorg.conf and make sure "dri" is a loaded module
[07:19] <Grark> silvaran, top
[07:19] <carny> it is loaded
[07:19] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Unless you're running a minimal system, you pretty much have to have gtk already installed..
[07:19] <carny> but when i do glxinfo grep|direct it says its disabled
[07:19] <cilynx> V4Vendetta: libgtk2.0-0
[07:19] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, gtkpod says i need gtk+-2.0
[07:19] <V4Vendetta> cilynx, thanks
[07:20] <volCOM_b0i> ATI drivers stink, my 200m doesn't accept DRI from ati drivers, but flgrx work
[07:20] <volCOM_b0i> fglrx^
[07:20] <bradd_> Nvidia Drivers don't work all the great eather
[07:20] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: are you getting an error message, or just checking prerequisites?
[07:20] <cilynx> bradd: Personally, I like OSX.  I run a couple of OSX servers and I don't hate the interface.  OSX is basically BSD with a pretty front end.
[07:20] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, configure: error: *** Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search pa th.
[07:20] <V4Vendetta> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[07:20] <bradd_> BSD?
[07:20] <bradd_> what's BSD?
[07:20] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Ahhh... you need the dev stuff.
[07:21] <cilynx> blueOrange: sorry to not be more help.  Good luck on the hunt.
[07:21] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, how do i get that
[07:21] <CrashProne> BSD is like Linux ... different lisence on it..
[07:21] <heatxsink_> anyone in here know how to get the firewire port wokring on a Audigy 2 ZS?
[07:21] <cilynx> bradd: BSD == Berkely System Distribution or something like that.  It's another varient of UNIX just like Linux is
[07:21] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: Looking...
[07:21] <carny> In the xorg.conf file under Section "DRI" it has mode 0666
[07:21] <silvaran> Let me throw this out here... which package contains the GTK2 development files?
[07:22] <bradd_> I see
[07:22] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, i'm downloading it from an ftp, server maybe i can get it installed if it's source or something
[07:22] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: How about "apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev"?
[07:22] <cilynx> silvaran: libgtk2.0-dev
[07:22] <bradd_> it's licenced... so it will cost $$$?
[07:22] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, okay one sec
[07:22] <silvaran> cilynx: Haha thanks.
[07:23] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, getting it, thanks
[07:23] <cilynx> bradd: there are free $ versions of BSD
[07:23] <cilynx> bradd: look into OpenBSD and NetBSD for a start
[07:23] <silvaran> And freeBSD
[07:23] <V4Vendetta> :-D
[07:23] <cilynx> that too
[07:23] <silvaran> Which puts the f-r-e-e in, ... uh, free.
[07:23] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, the gtkpod that's packaged for breezy crashes
[07:23] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, that's why i'm upgding
[07:23] <silvaran> V4Vendetta: gotcha...
[07:23] <V4Vendetta> silvaran, it writes the files succesfully, but i always have to xkill it
[07:24] <bradd_> I found it... is it cool???
[07:24] <volCOM_b0i> bradd_: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:24] <bradd_> do any of you have BSD?
[07:24] <Nembutal> mh, does gtkpod work with other mp3 players, too?
[07:24] <V4Vendetta> Nembutal, no, i think not
[07:24] <Nembutal> ok
[07:24] <V4Vendetta> Nembutal, because they don't use iTunes databases
[07:25] <Nembutal> ah, right
[07:25] <Nembutal> apple uses that sucky proprietary thign :|
[07:25] <V4Vendetta> Nembutal, alot of mp3 players you can just drag ffiles/folders into them
[07:25] <cilynx> bradd:  I have run BSD on a couple of different systems.  Many people promote it for security.  It's right up impossible for a newcomer to maintain though.
[07:25] <V4Vendetta> Nembutal, i wish ipod was like that.
[07:26] <michael117> can anyone help me get fluxbox working?
[07:27] <jetscreamer> flux requires selinux and bsd... (j/k)
[07:27] <Nembutal> michael117, what's the prob?
[07:27] <V4Vendetta> michael117, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:27] <V4Vendetta> and select it from the sessions on the login page
[07:27] <bradd_> hmm, thanks
[07:27] <bradd_> what do you guys do all night? Just help people w/ this linux stuff?
[07:27] <michael117> I'm actually have ubuntu on my regular machine and debian on a server/testbox on which I am trying to remotely install fluxbox
[07:28] <V4Vendetta> bradd_, and sleep
[07:28] <bradd_> I am looking to make this a server... is it easy to run a server?
[07:28] <volCOM_b0i> I am just reading and look to see what others are having trouble with.
[07:28] <V4Vendetta> michael117, ssh in and type, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:28] <bosco> how do i remove one file not the whole directory
[07:28] <cilynx> bradd_: normally, I sleep.  I try to give a little back to the community before that though.
[07:28] <V4Vendetta> bosco, sudo rm -r filename
[07:28] <michael117> but debian and ubuntu are very similar and the folks over at #debian seem to ignore me
[07:28] <bradd_> that's cool... I would like to... but i am a noob
[07:29] <bradd_> to Linux
[07:29] <michael117> V4Vendetta: I have already installed it but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/600073
[07:29] <cilynx> bradd_: it depends on what you want it to do.  What do you want this server to do for you?
[07:29] <bradd_> but I like it... It helps kill windows
[07:29] <bradd_> like... pictures and music and VIDEOS
[07:29] <carny> !ati
[07:29] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:29] <volCOM_b0i> Bradd, google around for ways to secure debian, that is what I did when I set up a server.
[07:30] <bradd_> what IS debian? is that Ubuntu?
[07:31] <michael117> bradd_: Debian is a different distribution that Ubuntu is based off of which created the whole apt package system
[07:31] <cilynx> bradd_: I also got into Linux on an Anti-Windows binge, but these days, I simply find it easier to use and maintain.  Debian is the distribution of Linux that Ubuntu is based on.  Ubuntu is more politically strict whereas Ubuntu is more user friendly
[07:31] <heatxsink_> anyone in here know how to get the firewire port working on a Audigy 2 ZS?
[07:31] <CrashProne> !tell CrashProne about xgl
[07:32] <CrashProne> Yay!
[07:32] <jetscreamer> i think you mistyped that cilynx
[07:32] <bradd_> I see....
[07:32] <jetscreamer> 2 ubuntu
[07:32] <bradd_> so what is the best looking GUI of any Linux?
[07:32] <bradd_> Like which dist.?
[07:32] <cilynx> jetscreamer: how so?
[07:32] <CrashProne> You can get any GUI in most distros of Linux!
[07:33] <cilynx> bradd_: in my opinion, the Gnome setup that Ubuntu uses is more attractive than the default setup in any other flavor
[07:33] <cilynx> bradd_: KDE in SUSE isn't bad though
[07:33] <volCOM_b0i> bradd_ you can see this for yourself.  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE
[07:34] <bradd_> Oh yah, SUSE..... I was thinking about buying that... does anyone know anything about that....
[07:34] <cilynx> jetscreamer: wow...i should sleep....    Debian is more politically strict.  Ubuntu is more user friendly.
[07:34] <bosco> is there anyway to add more desktops vai teminal
[07:34] <pvd2006> WOOT! being able to watch my favorite videos, use limewire, chat, burn a cd, and run terminal programs at once is a lot better than what I was doing on windows.
[07:34] <bosco> i have google it and looked in the ububntu forums and notihgng came up
[07:35] <rixth> How can I get the card reader in my laptop to work?
[07:35] <rixth> Or not even try?
[07:35] <cilynx> bradd: SUSE is pretty good.  I don't know that I would pay for it though.  something you might find useful: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/
[07:36] <V4Vendetta> security.ubuntu.com is down isn't it
[07:36] <cilynx> bradd: the VMWare Player lets you try out operating systems without having to really install them
[07:37] <bradd_> is it like.... a liveCD? kinda
[07:37] <volCOM_b0i> Virtual Machine
[07:37] <bradd_> I see
[07:37] <cilynx> bosco: are you trying to add more text consoles or more graphical desktops?
[07:38] <bosco> cilynx more graphical desktops
[07:38] <bradd_> is there a way to get SUSE w/ out buying it?
[07:38] <volCOM_b0i> yes
[07:38] <bradd_> b/c I looked and it just said where to get it
[07:38] <bradd_> and It was like $60
[07:38] <bradd_> where?
[07:39] <volCOM_b0i> let me get the link
[07:39] <bradd_> thnx
[07:39] <frank23> bradd_: opensuse
[07:39] <Nembutal> Badm4n, there is opensuse
[07:39] <volCOM_b0i> opensuse.org i think
[07:39] <cilynx> bosco: i think you said before, but what window manager are you using?
[07:39] <Nembutal> I tried it
[07:39] <volCOM_b0i> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
[07:39] <Nembutal> in my opinion, it completly loses against ubuntu dapper
[07:39] <bosco> cilynx, i am using e17
[07:39] <Nembutal> even though YaST2 is  nice
[07:40] <nekostar> \o/
[07:40] <Nembutal> but the current opensuse has many flaws
[07:40] <nekostar> hey thanx guys for your help on hdparm
[07:40] <nekostar> :)
[07:40] <Chodded> One of the apt mirrors seems to be down :/
[07:40] <bosco> cilynx, do you have any idea
[07:40] <bosco> s
[07:40] <frank23> Nembutal: like what? i don't really know opensuse
[07:40] <Nembutal> and opensuse has very few mirrors compared to ubuntu
[07:40] <volCOM_b0i> I just installed fedora today, I wasn't that impressed compared to ubuntu.
[07:41] <Nembutal> frank23, the hardware recognition somehow sucked. a lot of things didn work (my old tv card that worked on any linux, a quite new webcam, my digicam)
[07:41] <bosco> cilynx, cuz i am out of ideas
[07:41] <cilynx> bosco: sorry, Enlightenment is beyond me.  I didn't see anything on a quick Google run.  Anyone else?
[07:41] <bosco> cilynx, nor did i but thank you
[07:41] <Nembutal> and it misses a lot of ubuntu-setup tools and enhancements
[07:41] <Nembutal> in gnome
[07:41] <Nembutal> that only ubuntu has
[07:41] <bradd_> is Ubuntu the most popular/
[07:41] <Nembutal> I really can't recommend anyone opensuse
[07:41] <frank23> Nembutal: ok
[07:41] <Nembutal> bradd_, for good reason
[07:41] <Nembutal> I used debian for years
[07:42] <Grark> Well well what a LOT of futzing and reading :) I LOVE IT
[07:42] <Nembutal> arch linux, somewhen tried mandriva for a while and even ran opensuse for a few months
[07:42] <cilynx> bradd_: check out distrowatch.com
[07:42] <Grark> I'm up and running now
[07:42] <Grark> thanks everyone
[07:42] <Nembutal> as I am desktop user, ubuntu is really the best to me$
[07:42] <Nembutal> I'm a developper and desktop user
[07:42] <FlannelKing> Enlightenments documentation isn't anywhere to be found... easily anyway.  Their sites just an ad.
[07:42] <bradd_> k
[07:42] <bosco> when is the new ubuntu comming out does anyone know i know that it comes out every 6 months or so
[07:42] <volCOM_b0i> http://www.enlightenment.org/
[07:42] <bosco> breezy badger is the latest
[07:42] <Nembutal> bosco, 20th of april
[07:43] <Nembutal> afair$
[07:43] <Grark> Just a hint in the future, this HELPED a lot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:43] <bosco> Nembutal, what is it called do you konw
[07:43] <Nembutal> but it maybe gbecomes late
[07:43] <Nembutal> dapper drake
[07:43] <Nembutal> the new ubuntu
[07:43] <bosco> Nembutal, yes
[07:43] <Nembutal> or what do you mean?
[07:43] <chuckyp> shoutcast techno rocks
[07:43] <maman> join #hula
[07:43] <Nembutal> it's named dapper drake
[07:43] <bradd_> doesn't OSX use gnome???
[07:43] <Nembutal> bradd_, hell no ;)
[07:43] <Chodded> no lol
[07:43] <bosco> Nembutal,  the name like breezy badger
[07:43] <Nembutal> OSX uses Aqua
[07:43] <chuckyp> Nembutal, possible delay though
[07:43] <Nembutal> gnome just imitates the OSX look a bit
[07:44] <Nembutal> bosco, yes, that's dapper drake
[07:44] <bradd_> Oh..I thought I saw something in osx about gnome
[07:44] <bosco> Nembutal,  thank you
[07:44] <bdash__> Is it possible to have gnome remember windows locations on the screen or is it programme specific?
[07:44] <volCOM_b0i> you can run it on osx. Because it is unix based
[07:44] <bosco> Nameeater, can i ubdate without loosing all of my stuff i have already
[07:44] <cilynx> bradd_: you can run gnome under X11 under OSX, but that's an advanced configuration, by no means the default setup
[07:45] <Nameeater> bosco: I have no idea, but hello! :)
[07:45] <bradd_> yah... I haven't fucked w/ the mac like that... I dont plan to
[07:45] <Chodded> Is there anyway to resize a ext3 partition?
[07:45] <bosco> Nameeater, hello
[07:45] <bradd_> well... b/c it costs $$$
[07:45] <Nembutal> bradd_, anyway, I wouldn't use gnome on OSX anyway :)
[07:45] <bradd_> yah
[07:45] <bosco> Nameeater,  i run a computer bussiness and i just got 500 coppies to distribute for free with pc repairs
[07:45] <Nembutal> gnome tries to look quite a bit like OSX in terms of using
[07:45] <cilynx> Chodded: look into gParted
[07:46] <Chodded> Well qtparted should be able to
[07:46] <Nembutal> I love the way gnome interacts with the user
[07:46] <Chodded> But it's my root partition
[07:46] <Nembutal> compeltly functional-oriented
[07:46] <Chodded> So I think that may be why I can't resize it
[07:46] <cilynx> Chodded: get a live cd.  The Ubuntu live cd has gParted on it, not sure about qtparted
[07:46] <frank23> Chodded: maybe if you run the live cd,
[07:46] <Chodded> hmm
[07:46] <volCOM_b0i> is there an e17  repo for breezy?
[07:47] <Chodded> Is it safe to do such a thing though?
[07:47] <Nameeater> bosco: thats a real bastard considering the latest security risk :/
[07:47] <Chodded> I've put ALOT of work into my system so I don't won't to start over
[07:47] <bosco> Nameeater,  i know
[07:47] <cilynx> Chodded: I have done it to no ill effect.  It should work with no problem.  As always, YMMV
[07:47] <Nameeater> bosco: do you have a rifle + disc launcher? ^^
[07:47] <bosco> Name yes i do
[07:47] <Chodded> cilynx, alright
[07:47] <chuckyp> Nameeater, it will auto update
[07:48] <bosco> Nameeater,  yes i do
[07:48] <volCOM_b0i> Anyone know of an e17 repo for breezy?
[07:48] <Nameeater> that could be some good fun ;)
[07:48] <Chodded> Speaking of Aqua, is it possible to port Aqua to Linux?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> Chodded: it currently runs on BSD, so, technically.
[07:49] <Chodded> Well ya
[07:49] <Nameeater> chuckyp: synaptic auto updates the flaw or does it require user interaction?
[07:49] <Chodded> Darwin is BSD
[07:49] <FlannelKing> Nameeater: it updates it
[07:49] <GTroy> should I go to ubuntu-offtopic to ask about a good video card?
[07:49] <Nameeater> with no interaction what so ever?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> Nameeater: if they install, then update, they're good.
[07:49] <jetscreamer> think nvidia
[07:49] <GTroy> jetscreamer: under 75?
[07:49] <V4Vendetta> what package is libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[07:49] <jetscreamer> and do research first
[07:50] <Nameeater> yes but your talking potenially morons here who wont care what the flashing icon is
[07:50] <volCOM_b0i> GTroy, I would get an Nvidia over ATI card if your wanting to run linux.
[07:51] <FlannelKing> Nameeater: it doesn't flash ;) but yeah, no interaction if they update.
[07:51] <nate_> GTroy, go nvidia....
[07:51] <jetscreamer> GTroy: yeah you can find something for that... fx6200 maybe.. fx5500 for sure
[07:51] <GTroy> jetscreamer: cool
[07:51] <FlannelKing> actually, doesn't the installer check for new packages?
[07:51] <cilynx> GTroy: I have an fx5500 (which as JS said, you can get on the cheap) and I am very happy with it for normal use and 3d acceleration
[07:52] <bosco> hey how do i register in the linux room
[07:52] <floppyears> hi
[07:52] <GTroy> I want to use xgl and compiz, and.......second life and Wow
[07:52] <floppyears> how can I mount and unmount an usb thumbdrive?
[07:52] <GTroy> I know.....tall order
[07:52] <Chodded> bosco /msg nickserv register passwordhere
[07:52] <V4Vendetta> security.ubuntu.com is down isn't it
[07:52] <frank23> GTroy: I don't know where the price for fx5900 is now but it works great
[07:52] <nate_> GTroy, lol, you might want to spend more on a gfx card then
[07:52] <knoppix> hello.  my breezy badger indigested on gnome-baker and now the root mounts ro because of the errors=remount-ro entry in fstab.  can't boot because too many errors because files are read only.  what should I do ?
[07:52] <Chodded> V4Vendetta, it was but it appears to be back up
[07:52] <cilynx> GTroy: xgl/compiz is smooth as silk, as is Unreal Tourny...that's my experience
[07:53] <V4Vendetta> Chodded, :-d
[07:53] <bosco> Chodded, so i type in my nick serv and what
[07:53] <bosco> my pass
[07:53] <GTroy> cilynx: what do you uses?
[07:53] <Chodded> bosco just do that command that i wrote
[07:53] <Chodded> bosco /msg nickserv register passwordhere
[07:53] <cilynx> GTroy: nVidia fx5500
[07:53] <nate_> GTroy, do you have PCI xpress?
[07:53] <GTroy> sorry about the repeat
[07:53] <MCskill-it> I hope that dapper includes the latest network-manager ( version6.1 ) when it's released
[07:53] <bosco> Chodded, thankyou
[07:53] <Chodded> no prob
[07:53] <GTroy> no...crap I've only got a agp 4x
[07:53] <frank23> will it be easy to setup wpa in dapper?
[07:54] <Nembutal> frank23, quite
[07:54] <Nembutal> frank23, there's a graphical tool
[07:54] <Nembutal> ndisgtk
[07:54] <Chodded> bosco, and when you disconnect and come back on freenode and want to log back in as a registered user type /msg nickserv identify passwordhere
[07:54] <Nembutal> if you need ndiswrapper
[07:54] <nate_> GTroy, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814190010
[07:54] <Nembutal> if not, network-admin
[07:54] <GTroy> nate_: thanks, I love newegg
[07:54] <kethinov> hi all, i just install xgl and compiz from universe and they work great. but is there anyway to get a respectable nvidia twinview setup under this?
[07:54] <cilynx> knoppix: boot a live cd.  fsck your root partition of the actual system.  boot back into your real system
[07:54] <frank23> Nembutal: does network-admin work well in breezy? I never tried it
[07:55] <MCskill-it> kethinov: what guide did you follow?
[07:55] <FlannelKing> cilynx: something tells me he's on a liveCD right now ;)
[07:55] <MCskill-it> to setup xgl
[07:55] <bradd_> does Linux understand ISO files??? like, will it burn them for me or do I have to get a program for it?
[07:55] <Chodded> yes
[07:55] <kethinov> MCskill-it, just apt-get installed all the stuff
[07:55] <V4Vendetta> bradd_, it will burn them
[07:55] <cilynx> FlannelKing: good point =)
[07:55] <bradd_> sweet
[07:55] <Nembutal> frank23, of course
[07:55] <Nembutal> :)
[07:55] <nate_> GTroy, that one should run most of what you want
[07:55] <Nembutal> frank23, you can configure the key for the wlan etc.
[07:55] <GTroy> nate_: very cool, thanks
[07:55] <Nembutal> as far as I rembmer
[07:56] <MCskill-it> kethinov: did you have to make changes to your X.org files or gdm files?
[07:56] <knoppix> cilynx ok I am live on knoppix.  what is the commandline. e2fsck ?
[07:56] <Nembutal> I only have a non-wireless network card here
[07:56] <ryoohki> i'm think i was just root-kitted via apt-get
[07:56] <Nembutal> but I used it on my laptop
[07:56] <kethinov> MCskill-it, i had to alter gdm to start the xgl server instead of xorg
[07:56] <nate_> GTroy, and if you want to see the rest of the vid cards from $50-$75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010380048+4026&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48&Order=priced
[07:56] <frank23> Nembutal: ok.  so it does both wep and wpa?
[07:56] <Nembutal> mh, good  question
[07:56] <Nembutal> I'm not sure
[07:56] <frank23> Nembutal: right now in kde I can only setup wep
[07:56] <Nembutal> I thought both
[07:56] <MCskill-it> okay thanks
[07:56] <Nembutal> but I might be wrong
[07:56] <cilynx> knoppix: Assuming your root partition is ext3 (which I think is Ubuntu default) "fsck.ext3"
[07:56] <Nembutal> don't quote me on that
[07:57] <FlannelKing> ryoohki: why's that
[07:57] <nate_> GTroy, you love me, I know
[07:57] <GTroy> nate_: thanks, for now I'll look at the reviews of the 6200
[07:57] <GTroy> hahaha
[07:57] <ryoohki> su and login changed
[07:57] <frantic> hello ubuntu friends
[07:57] <bradd_> oh hey, I have 2 hdds.... Why can't the 2nd one be enabled when I try to in the disk util. in linux?
[07:57] <ryoohki> on a kernel update that seemed to take forever to download
[07:57] <bradd_> it's set up as a slave to the other hdd
[07:57] <FlannelKing> ryoohki: official repositories?
[07:57] <cilynx> bradd_: what's on said second hard drive?
[07:57] <knoppix> cilynx ok, it is an ext3 filesystem Thanks, going to do.
[07:58] <cilynx> knoppix: good luck
[07:58] <bradd_> huh?
[07:58] <ryoohki> i think it's probably due to there being more than vmlinuz in there also my root .bash_history was wiped out
[07:58] <bradd_> what's on the other hdd?
[07:58] <cilynx> bradd_: yeah, what's on the hard drive that you can't access.  What filesystem and such
[07:58] <ryoohki> probably not the official repos - have to check
[07:58] <bradd_> I think... another OS... it's another Ubuntu
[07:59] <ryoohki> it was a new 2.6.12-10-powerpc
[07:59] <schmirgo> does anone have ubuntu running un an ibook with internal airport(not airport extreme) and wpa? i have some probs with wpasupplicant
[07:59] <bradd_> same file system
[07:59] <cilynx> bradd_: hm...that should be easily automagically accessible...does it throw an error?
[07:59] <bradd_> nope
[07:59] <bradd_> I click enable and it doesn't to anything
[07:59] <frantic> can someone just tell me why there's an amd64 ubuntu, and whether or not i'd want to use it with my pentium d 920.. i want 64bit if at all possible do i not
[08:00] <cilynx> bradd_: gotta love that.  is the drive you can't get to listed in your /etc/fstab?
[08:00] <nate_> bradd_, what disk util?
[08:00] <bradd_> the one that comes with Linux....
[08:00] <nate_> cilynx, oooh, good idea, it probably relies on that to automount
[08:00] <bradd_> called "Disks"
[08:00] <bradd_> lol
[08:00] <cilynx> nate_: he's using the things under Admin in Gnome
[08:00] <frank23> frantic: you will get a bit better performance with amd64 version of ubuntu. You will also have to deal with flash/codecs/commercial software/etc problems
[08:01] <frantic> hmm
[08:01] <nate_> cilynx, kk :D
[08:01] <frank23> frantic: I suggest the i386 ubuntu to everyone. unless you like tinkering
[08:01] <bradd_> could it be that one is an ata-150 and the other an ata-100?
[08:01] <frantic> why is it labeled amd64
[08:01] <frantic> ok
[08:01] <nate_> bradd_, hrm, you'd think it would allow for that
[08:01] <cilynx> bradd_: shouldn't matter at all.  I'm guessing your fstab doesn't have an entry for the other drive and that's why you can't mount (access) it.
[08:01] <bradd_> and different speeds, cache and.... size
[08:01] <chuckyp> frank23, runnin 686 on my p4
[08:02] <bradd_> hmm
[08:02] <frantic> seriously folks, i love ubuntu.  I could seriously use it all the time happily, except that i fancy myself a musician and i'd miss cubase
[08:02] <bradd_> what's a fstab?
[08:02] <schmirgo> does anyone have some experience with airport wlan and wpa encryption?
[08:02] <nate_> bradd_, cat /etc/fstab and cat /etc/mtab and paste to pastebin
[08:02] <Nembutal> frantic, have you tried Buzz? =)
[08:02] <frantic> buzz?
[08:02] <frank23> frantic: the amd64 version actually runs in 64 bit. the i386 version runs in 32bits. your processor can do both (I think, I don't know exactly which intel processors run 64bit code)
[08:02] <Nembutal> buzz works with wine perfectly
[08:02] <Nembutal> frantic, www.buzzmachines.com
[08:03] <Nembutal> might not be the best to you
[08:03] <Nembutal> but I love it
[08:03] <Nembutal> :)
[08:03] <Nembutal> but you are right
[08:03] <cilynx> bradd_: /etc/fstab is the list of your filesystems and where they are mounted.  do what nate said and we'll go from there
[08:03] <Nembutal> linux misses the best music software
[08:03] <Nembutal> I wish there would be more compatible software
[08:03] <ryoohki> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 18005526 Mar 13 02:06 linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc_2.6.12-10.30_powerpc.deb
[08:03] <Chodded> !bootsplash
[08:03] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chodded
[08:03] <Madpilot> !tell Nembutal about enter
[08:03] <bradd_> grr, h/o
[08:03] <ryoohki> in /var/cache/apt/archive
[08:03] <frantic> i'm aiming to get a nice soundcard supported by alsa in my next computer
[08:04] <Chodded> Is there a guide to changing the bootsplash?
[08:04] <frantic> if i can find a program that supports vst instruments and midi, i think it'd be possible to switch
[08:04] <mtopf> quit
[08:04] <mtopf> peace
[08:05] <eobanb> can anyone help me with xorg? i uninstalled all of the ubuntu-desktop packages and planned on replacing it all with xdm and fluxbox.  but for some reason i get to a text login on startup even though xdm is started by init.d.  can anyone help??
[08:05] <frank23> Nembutal: frantic yeah linux still is missing specialised software.
[08:05] <Slecx> with what option do I mount the floppy drive?
[08:05] <cilynx> frantic: outdated, but: http://www.djcj.org/LAU/quicktoots/toots/vst-plugins/
[08:05] <frantic> you should have just installed fluxbox without removing anything.  gdm allows you to select fluxbox when you log in
[08:06] <nate_> eobanb, welcome back :D
[08:06] <eobanb> thanks..any idea about getting x working?
[08:07] <eobanb> if i do startx it brings up an error saying 'unable to start x session, no .xsession file found, aborting'
[08:07] <nate_> frantic, he wants to get rid of the bulkiness of gdm and gnome.  hdd space is critical for him
[08:07] <frantic> ah ok
[08:07] <jetscreamer> GTroy: http://labs.anandtech.com/products.php?sfilter=324
[08:07] <frantic> anyway, in regard to specialised software, i have no doubt it'll come someday
[08:07] <Slecx> how do I mount the floppy
[08:07] <eobanb> x does start, though.
[08:08] <cilynx> Slecx: "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt" or some such
[08:08] <floppyears> how can I mount and unmount an usb thumbdrive in ubuntu ?
[08:08] <nbjayme> hello. is there a cross platform flash designer/development environment that works with ubuntu?
[08:08] <frank23> frantic: yeah, I agree. as long as linux increases in popularity, eventually the OS wont be ignored by commercial software vendors
[08:08] <g0dchild> I am getting this 'libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate' - so how do i find the correct name for the package?
[08:08] <nate_> eobanb, i dunno, i don't have a .xsession file either
[08:08] <cilynx> floppyears: if you have gnome-volume-manager installed, it should just work
[08:08] <eobanb> maybe i'll try installing gdm..
[08:08] <nate_> frank23, yeah, there needs to be the demand for it
[08:08] <carny> how do i get the latest kernel modules?
[08:09] <Slecx> okay, will a dd command automatically format the floppy when copying a new image there?
[08:09] <floppyears> cilynx: but I use kde :(
[08:09] <cilynx> g0dchild: libdvdcss2 is official illegal software for most people.  You might find the information in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples most valuable
[08:09] <jetscreamer> g0dchild: it's in that other repository... i forget the name...
[08:09] <jetscreamer> !easysource
[08:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:09] <jetscreamer> but many ppl know the name here
[08:10] <g0dchild> ah, ok then. :)
[08:10] <jetscreamer> Slecx: if the image you write is formatted :)
[08:10] <jetscreamer> it will overwrite whatever is on the floppy and replace it with the image you have
[08:10] <carny> !kernel
[08:10] <jetscreamer> at a low level
[08:11] <carny> !ati
[08:11] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:11] <cilynx> floppyears: um...KDE is totally not my forte... any other takers?     command line wise it's generally "mount /dev/sda /mnt" or "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" or some such
[08:11] <carny> !kernel-source
[08:11] <ubotu> carny: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <ge_gef> naa c mj_f?
[08:11] <floppyears> cilynx: thanks
[08:11] <frantic> i know noone who does not find vista repulsive
[08:11] <jetscreamer> it's not done
[08:11] <larry> lol just installing vista to have a look funny enough
[08:11] <carny> cilynx how do i get the kernel source and so forth?
[08:11] <jetscreamer> ah
[08:11] <frantic> linux has (apparently) reached the point where it's the most user friendly OS
[08:11] <jetscreamer> !w32codecs
[08:11] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:12] <jetscreamer> same place
[08:12] <liable> !kernel-source is if you need to install the kernel source for your running kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[08:12] <ubotu> okay, liable
[08:12] <g0dchild> umm...is there anyone who can give me some thoughts on how to best update packages- problem is down here in the maldives, the download speed is about 10kbps max-
[08:12] <volCOM_b0i> How can I set an application to skip the taskbar in Gnome?
[08:12] <ge_gef> helo everybody
[08:12] <A10n> hey guys
[08:12] <Chodded> Anyone know how to install new bootsplashes?
[08:12] <jetscreamer> not linux-headers ?
[08:12] <cilynx> carny: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15  (or whatever version you want)
[08:12] <g0dchild> its not hard to see why most people wont switch or use open source even if it is benficial
[08:12] <A10n> when i try to do apt-get update i get a warning about packages that can't be authenticated.
[08:13] <frantic> the point is, i see microsoft losing some of it's share within a few years, and a good share of that is bound to go to linux, probably moreso os x though
[08:13] <A10n> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[08:13] <A10n>   cpio discover1-data libdiscover1 discover1 hdparm jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2 liblircclient0 libsnmp-base nvidia-settings python2.4-osd libssl0.9.6
[08:13] <carny> says it cant find the pakage??
[08:13] <nate_> eobanb, hey
[08:13] <eobanb> nate_, what's up
[08:13] <nate_> eobanb, echo "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" > ~/.xsession
[08:13] <A10n> any advice? is my apt sources un trusted?
[08:13] <jetscreamer> A10n: long as you trust the source, it's ok. you'll need a gpg key for the server to fix that
[08:13] <nate_> eobanb, then start it up
[08:14] <cilynx> g0dchild: do you updates overnight?  I have administered boxen that did slow updates every night due to bandwidth issues.
[08:14] <jetscreamer> A10n: but you can install the programs, it will work
[08:14] <A10n> yes i know but don't know if i trust them. let me check my sources really quick
[08:14] <volCOM_b0i> How can I set an application to skip the taskbar in Gnome?
[08:14] <nate_> eobanb, you might need to kill any x servers that already started (killall -9 X)
[08:14] <cilynx> carny: breezy may be 2.6.12, i'm not sure.  keep walking down versions till you get a hit
[08:15] <frank23> g0dchild: I don't know. I always wonder why, if a change to a package is small, you still have to download all of it again. I have a high speed connection  so it's ok but if you have a slow connection....
[08:15] <nate_> volCOM_b0i, skip it?
[08:15] <A10n> i had everything with ubuntu.com and one line that had debian
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> Not show in the taskbar.
[08:15] <eobanb> nate_, hold on, i already started installing gdm again
[08:15] <volCOM_b0i> Like open a terminal, but not show on the taskbar
[08:15] <zekafredoo> nate_ eobanb, you might need to kill any x servers that already started (
[08:15] <g0dchild> cilynx, - no i do it at daytime- i am trying to start up a small computer tuition class- nothing big- but am trying to use as much as edubuntu i can
[08:15] <nate_> volCOM_b0i, I've only been able to do it through specific applications
[08:15] <A10n> jetscreamer, I guess having a line that said debian.com is a mistake huh?
[08:16] <zekafredoo>  who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach
[08:16] <volCOM_b0i> I want to put a terminal on my desktop background, any suggestions on terminals?
[08:16] <jetscreamer> A10n: ahhh....
[08:16] <nate_> volCOM_b0i, and we're talking gnome, which is, by the developer's own admission, less configurable
[08:16] <frank23> zekafredoo: il y a #ubuntu-fr en francais
[08:16] <g0dchild> frank23, - no, its not that I want the small changes updates- just more functionality corresponding alternatives for windows-based software-
[08:16] <jetscreamer> A10n: no don't mix debian and ubuntu sources
[08:17] <A10n> okay i thought it would be okay. I wonder whyi put it there in the first place...
[08:17] <cilynx> g0dchild: are you trying to demonstrate the update proces or are you just trying to get the updates done?  I believe the update manager has the option to download updates as they become available.  If you enable that, it will download in the background as it goes and not have to do it all at once.
[08:17] <liable> !no kernel-source is if you need to install the kernel source for your running kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r), more than likely though, all you need is to install the kernel headers for your running kernel. (if you need to compile a module) sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:17] <ubotu> okay, liable
[08:17] <frank23> g0dchild: there is already alot available but it takes time
[08:17] <volCOM_b0i> Yes, i do it in KDE, but KDE hogs my resources, so trying to in gnome...
[08:17] <A10n> jetscreamer, is there a way to check if i installed anythign from the debian repository?
[08:17] <chuckyp> liable, or linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:17] <frantic> anyway, i gotta go to bed.  i don't know if you guys are affiliated with ubuntu in any official capacity... but y'all are doing a fantastic job either way
[08:17] <frantic> gnight
[08:17] <knoppix> cilynx:  umount fails.  how do I unbusy a file system so I can fsck it, safely ?
[08:18] <zekafredoo> qui peut m aider.savoir comment on fait pour changer pyvoice savoir qui utilise gyach
[08:18] <liable> chuckyp: the way i typed it works too.
[08:18] <A10n> looks like you guys put out a new kernel
[08:19] <nooneelse> Hi all
[08:19] <cilynx> knoppix: Make sure your current working directory is not on the filesystem that you need to unmount and umount should work.
[08:19] <bradd_> is there a way i can get my Nvidia setting up???
[08:19] <g0dchild> frank23, - yeah, but there seems to be no better solution than this- atleast its going to be a one-off thingy
[08:19] <nate_> so anyone know of any docs that explain what is going on behind the scenes in the ubuntu install?
[08:19] <nooneelse> I'm trying to install sun-j2re1.5 but it says that theres no candidate to install
[08:19] <frank23> zekafredoo: va a #ubuntu-fr pour discuter en francais
[08:19] <jetscreamer> A10n: yes, but i don't know how exactly. (you don't know?) one way would be to comment out the debian line, use a front end like (gasp) dselect or aptitude synaptic and see what winds up 'orphaned'... that's not the exact term, but you can tell the orphan state when you see it.
[08:19] <chuckyp> nate_, what are yout rying to do?
[08:19] <jetscreamer> then just uninstall those
[08:19] <nate_> bradd_, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[08:19] <g0dchild> only problem is, once i copy the archives directory and apt settings from /etc to offline machines, some of them takes a lotta time to download- many packages could only be installed manually.
[08:19] <chuckyp> nate_, you could do an expert install and then see for your self what it is doing.
[08:19] <jetscreamer> unless you did an upgrade :(
[08:20] <g0dchild> ..i mean using dpkg-....most of the time, synaptic would try to download the gpg keys and all
[08:20] <cilynx> bradd_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:20] <A10n> jetscreamer, okay :/ i think i messed around with installing flash for mozilla firefox but its not that big of a deal
[08:20] <A10n> thanks for all the help!
[08:20] <zekafredoo> * nooneelse (n=nooneels@unaffiliated/nooneelse) a rejoint #ubuntu
[08:20] <nate_> chuckyp, no, i mean what is actually going on, preseed directives being used at whatever points, virtual directories being used, etc
[08:20] <A10n> time for bed, goodnight all
[08:21] <intelikey> what is the command to set the users shell ?
[08:21] <zekafredoo>  who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach
[08:21] <knoppix> cilynx  OK  I think knoppix has done a union with the root on the hard drive.  any suggestions ?
[08:21] <frank23> g0dchild: are you downloading the packages once and updating several machines?
[08:21] <nate_> chuckyp, i need to understand it to customize it for a specific use and to troubleshoot the inevitable breakage that will occur
[08:22] <cilynx> g0dchild: do i understand your setup?  You have a low bandwidth internet connection.  You download updates to one machine.  You then copy the updates to the other machines to save band on your outside connection.
[08:22] <zekafredoo>  who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach
[08:22] <chuckyp> intelikey, what do you mean?
[08:22] <cilynx> g0dchild:  if that is the case, look into apt-proxy or my own solution of abusing your debcache over ssh: http://www.wolfteck.com/debcache/
[08:22] <ge_gef> hello
[08:23] <nate_> intelikey, usermod
[08:23] <nate_> intelikey, man usermod
[08:23] <volCOM_b0i> Anyone know of any terminals that can Skip the taskbar in Gnome?
[08:23] <intelikey> nate_ can't man it i hosed man....
[08:23] <nate_> intelikey, what's the path to the shell youw ant to use?
[08:23] <zekafredoo>  who can m aider.savoir how one makes to change pyvoice to know which uses gyach
[08:23] <cilynx> knoppix: i figure knoppix puts your real root system somewhere, I'm just not sure where
[08:23] <frank23> zekafredoo: tape  /join #ubuntu-fr  pour parler en francais
[08:24] <chuckyp> intelikey, what do you want to do?  just change you shell?
[08:24] <intelikey>  /bin/bash
[08:24] <chuckyp> intelikey, you can cat /etc/shells for a list
[08:24] <knoppix> cilynx thanks.  I' goo poke around.
[08:24] <nate_> intelikey, usermod -s /bin/bash username
[08:24] <intelikey> k thanks nate_
[08:24] <g0dchild> frank23, - yeah, i have some friends at a local ISP- so I use their network to download the archives to a PC on which ubuntu is installed- next, i take 'em back home and try to install those packages on all the machines there.
[08:24] <nate_> intelikey, np
[08:24] <cilynx> knoppix: "df" is your friend
[08:25] <heatxsink_> anyone in here have problems getting their iPod to mount proper over Firewire?
[08:25] <nate_> g0dchild, ummm, so you want to set up your own local mirror then?
[08:25] <eobanb> heatxsink, i've been able to do it.  try just having it plugged in when you're starting up.
[08:25] <jetscreamer> g0dchild: you could just d/l a dvd and use it for a source.. even network it out
[08:25] <eobanb> and it should get added to your /etc/fstab
[08:26] <eobanb> and then automount
[08:26] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Is there a way to watch an ongoing process (right now, I am doing dist-upgrade on Breezy) in one terminal from another?
[08:26] <nate_> eobanb, any luck on the .xsession or whatever?
[08:27] <cilynx> Nunquam_Fidelis: You want to see the same thing on both terminals?
[08:27] <nate_> Nunquam_Fidelis, best way is to use 'screen'
[08:27] <ufo> why the sudo thing its even unsecure thing
[08:27] <nate_> Nunquam_Fidelis, then you can re-attach the screen to see the progress then detatch it
[08:27] <eobanb> nate_, apt-get installing gdm seemed to do the trick.
[08:27] <g0dchild> nate_, I suppose. would be more efficient- so where do I have to read up on setting up a local mirror that'll serve packages to the hosts on a LAN?
[08:27] <Nunquam_Fidelis> cilynx: I started the process on the desktop, but want to watch it on my laptop via SSH.
[08:27] <chuckyp> !rar
[08:27] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:27] <nate_> eobanb, ooh, good :)
[08:27] <ufo> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/34606
[08:27] <eobanb> nate_, it leaves me with a few gnome libraries, but ehh
[08:27] <eobanb> i dont care TOO much.
[08:28] <cilynx> Nunquam_Fidelis: as nate said, the "screen" program is the way to go
[08:28] <eobanb> it's only like 8 MB of gnome stuff (compared to like 150 before)
[08:28] <nate_> g0dchild, check out wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <nmsa> hello
[08:28] <nate_> Nunquam_Fidelis, I've used screen extensively in gentoo with emerge, which may take days depending on the machine, so i can check the progress
[08:28] <ge_gef> hi
[08:28] <heatxsink> eobanb:  thanks
[08:28] <nate_> eobanb, good to hear :D
[08:29] <ge_gef> hows life
[08:29] <nmsa> I need to use pptp, but I can't find out a way to config the vpn
[08:29] <cilynx> g0dchild: it may be simpler to simply reuse your debcache instead of doing a real mirror
[08:30] <eobanb> nmsa, you might try using the IU USSG's script
[08:30] <hacker_>   - .
[08:30] <eobanb> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/index4676.html?option=displaypage&Itemid=82&op=page&SubMenu=
[08:30] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nate_: Ok, so how do I use screen via SSH?
[08:30] <eobanb> !ru
[08:30] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:30] <Hmmmm> hi anyone use remind?
[08:30] <nmsa> eobanb: ok, where can I find it ?
[08:31] <nate_> Nunquam_Fidelis, read the man page on screen first, then come back and ask, it explains most of it.  if you have questions about the man page, i can help
[08:31] <nate_> g0dchild, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78801.html
[08:31] <cilynx> Nunquam_Fidelis: quick and dirty -- on the desktop, before running the command you want to later watch, run "screen".  You will get dropped back to a terminal where you can run whatever.  On your laptop, log into the desktop and run "screen -dr".  This will detach the screen from the desktop and reattach to your current ssh session
[08:31] <nmsa> eobanb: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/ 'thnx I'll take a look
[08:31] <nate_> g0dchild, I think basically you'll want the debmirror program
[08:32] <cilynx> Nunquam_Fidelis: there are a lot more neat features to "screen", but that should get you started
[08:32] <intelikey> ufo  hehhe yeah but look how much safer it is to use a default setup of sudo than setting a root passwd
[08:32] <Auckland_Pig> i need help with Vino or VNC can any one help please
[08:32] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu tell me about vino
[08:32] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu tell me about vnc
[08:32] <nate_> !vnc
[08:32] <ubotu> I guess vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[08:32] <g0dchild> nate, thanks. am looking it up.
[08:33] <Auckland_Pig> thanks nate
[08:33] <nate_> g0dchild, kk :D
[08:33] <nate_> Auckland_Pig, np
[08:34] <ge_gef> hello
[08:34] <Nunquam_Fidelis> cilynx and nate_ , thank you both for the help.
[08:34] <cilynx> Nunquam_Fidelis: np
[08:34] <nate_> g0dchild, I plan on using that for a project soon, so if you need help with it later this week, i'd be glad to help
[08:34] <heatxsink> eobanb:  that rebooting thing didn't work
[08:34] <heatxsink> doh
[08:34] <nate_> Nunquam_Fidelis, come back if you need help
[08:35] <nate_> heatxsink, what device in /dev handles firewire?
[08:35] <intelikey> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code
[08:35] <elkbuntu> how long till meetings now, seveas?
[08:35] <heatxsink> nate_:  no idea
[08:35] <heatxsink> nate_:  how could I figure that out?
[08:35] <Seveas> elkbuntu, 1h25m
[08:35] <nate_> heatxsink, no idea to tell you the truth
[08:36] <nate_> intelikey, is apt or dpkg being used by another program?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> nate_: /dev/sdX apparently - emulates scsi
[08:36] <Auckland_Pig> anyone here using vncviewer to a vncserver thats behind a firewall?
[08:36] <nate_> Frogzoo, thanks
[08:37] <nate_> heatxsink, dmesg | grep /dev/sd
[08:37] <intelikey> nate_ it was apt but i got it.    thanks anyway.   and no need explaining that one. you'll never see it again from the same cause.
[08:37] <heatxsink> nate_:  nothing
[08:37] <heatxsink> nate_:  any idea on the module name for scsi?
[08:37] <nate_> heatxsink, unplug your ipod
[08:38] <nate_> heatxsink, then plug it in
[08:38] <heatxsink> unpluged
[08:38] <OmegaAlpha> !pastebin
[08:38] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:38] <heatxsink> pluged in
[08:38] <nate_> then dmesg | tail
[08:38] <nate_> then paste that in pastebin
[08:38] <intelikey> it seems that /bin/sh can not be a shell warper  or apt wont work.
[08:38] <nate_> intelikey, ?
[08:39] <nate_> intelikey, /bin/sh is the shellscript interpreter, right?
[08:39] <intelikey> no it's a symlink
[08:39] <intelikey> to bash
[08:39] <nate_> to /bin/bash??
[08:39] <nate_> ahh
[08:39] <nate_> and it doesn't like the symlink
[08:39] <nate_> see, learn something new every day
[08:39] <solid_liq> anyone know of an app I can use to fill in a form that's in pdf format?
[08:39] <intelikey> but if you make it a shell script that starts bash apt will fail.
[08:40] <heatxsink_> nate_:  http://pastebin.ca/45599
[08:40] <nate_> intelikey, ha
[08:40] <intelikey> nate_ actually it likes the symlink, doesn't like a script.
[08:41] <mcquaid> hello all, my gf4 card just died, and i had to resort to my old 3dfx voodoo3
[08:41] <jackson> just installed ubuntu with default setup. How do l get or set the root password.
[08:41] <nate_> heatxsink, nothing in dmesg reflects that you plugged something into the firewire port, that would definitely be cause for concern.
[08:41] <intelikey> also man fails, if /bin/sh is a shell warper.  that fixed man too.
[08:42] <Frogzoo> !tell jackson about sudo
[08:42] <mcquaid> it seems to work so far except opengl mode. glxgears launches and it spins a few times then halts
[08:42] <_0331_USMC> Anyone know when something will come out for the new intel-based mac's?  I just got a new intel dual-core mac mini :)
[08:42] <nate_> heatxsink, has your firewire port ever worked before?  because I would suspect your hardware wasn't detected and configured properly
[08:42] <heatxsink> nate_:  any ideas one how I can get to that point?
[08:42] <mcquaid> anyone know much about 3dfx cards in xorg?
[08:43] <Frogzoo> nate_: heatxsink: the fw is there: ohci1394: fw-host0: Waking dma ctx=0 ... processing is probably too slow
[08:43] <heatxsink> nate_:  my firewire port worked back in Hoary
[08:43] <Frogzoo> 1394 is firewire...
[08:43] <heatxsink> hasn't since
[08:43] <heatxsink> nate_:  I have a Sound Blaster Audigy with a Firewire Port on it
[08:43] <ge_gef> joi
[08:43] <nate_> Frogzoo, ahhh, i was looking for an sd device
[08:44] <heatxsink_> could it be that I don't have any of the scsi stuff loaded as a module?
[08:44] <nate_> heatxsink, it was detected properly, i'm sorry, i missed it
[08:44] <mcquaid> how do i reconfigure xorg?
[08:44] <heatxsink_> nate_:  doh.....
[08:44] <nate_> heatxsink, i'm not familiar with troubleshooting much past this point
[08:44] <heatxsink_> nate_:  cool thanks for your help
[08:44] <nate_> mcquaid, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:45] <nate_> mcquaid, i think :D
[08:45] <nate_> heatxsink, np man
[08:45] <nate_> heatxsink, copy that line about being to slow and paste it into google
[08:45] <heatxsink> cool
[08:46] <MCskill-it> so does anyone know the lastest about dapper being delayed?
[08:46] <Frogzoo> !tell mcquaid about xorg
[08:46] <MCskill-it> It sounded it was going to happen
[08:46] <Lotus-6> Hey, quick question if anyone can answer... I'm running ubuntu with GNOME, i was wondering if there were any way I could bind my Windows key to a command (want it to run a program whenever i hit it)
[08:46] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[08:46] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:47] <MCskill-it> oh
[08:47] <Frogzoo> heh - no release date I see O_o
[08:47] <MCskill-it> okay thanks
[08:47] <lcore> How to change system clock time from UTC to local?
[08:48] <lcore> * aka the win/linux time problem.
[08:48] <squeaka1> hello
[08:48] <MCskill-it> !dapper
[08:48] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:49] <nate_> i heard they were considering a three-week delay
[08:49] <nate_> but that was through some article off digg, so who knows
[08:49] <MCskill-it> hmm
[08:49] <nate_> google it yet?
[08:49] <MCskill-it> nope
[08:50] <intelikey> lcore the cli way would be to set the clock and change the symlink  /etc/localtime  to point to utc  then update the system i guess.
[08:50] <Frogzoo> delay on dapper is 6 weeks (proposed): http://lwn.net/Articles/175272/
[08:50] <lcore> intelikey: so it has nothing to do with /etc/adjtime ?
[08:51] <intelikey> lcore iirc /etc/adjtime is for fixing drift  not timezone
[08:52] <intelikey> but you may be able to set it and do the same thing..... i don't see how without changing the symlink tho
[08:54] <Beleys> Bonjour
[08:54] <nate_> heatxsink, ha, i found the spot in the source that throws that error
[08:54] <heatxsink> nate_:  NICE
[08:54] <heatxsink> nate_:  what is the error?
[08:54] <nate_> ohci1394: fw-host0: Waking dma ctx=0 ... processing is probably too slow
[08:55] <nate_> not sure why, to be honest
[08:55] <nate_> could be something in the kernel even
[08:55] <Frogzoo> beleys pour Ubuntu en Francais, allez #ubuntu-fr
[08:55] <nate_> i'd google ipod on breezy
[08:57] <lcore> intelikey: /etc/localtime is not s symbolic link it is a file. Can U redirect me to some man / web info?
[08:57] <intelikey> it's a symlink here.
[08:58] <intelikey> lcore there should be a dpkg-reconfigure <blah>   if you knew what the blah was
[08:59] <god> #ubuntu-cn
[08:59] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:59] <pvd2006> I installed the required codecs to get all my files to work including video, audio, etc.. Then I installed the win32 to get some .wmv files to work and now my .mp3 files wont play anymore
[09:00] <pvd2006> win32_codec
[09:00] <nate_> heatxsink, another issue is that the error might have nothing to do with it not working
[09:00] <linuxboyfriend> i have many users in my system and i wanna allow all of them to connect to internet (wvdial) but i dont wanna share my root password, how can i enable them to dial?
[09:00] <god> help
[09:00] <god> :help
[09:00] <heatxsink> nate_:  hahahahah
[09:00] <nate_> make a group that can dial and add the users and the device to that group
[09:01] <heatxsink> nate_:  this is jjust pissing me off now
[09:01] <heatxsink> seriously
[09:01] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: try groups dialout & dip
[09:01] <nate_> heatxsink, have you tried installing some ipod software and looking for it in that?  in might not behave the same in breezy
[09:01] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: is this a command "groups dialout & dip"
[09:02] <heatxsink> nate_:  even worse I'm in dapper
[09:02] <heatxsink> haha
[09:02] <nate_> heatxsink, oh, well, that just introduces even more possible issues
[09:02] <heatxsink> GREAT!
[09:02] <heatxsink> I'll just forget about it then
[09:02] <heatxsink> let it slide
[09:03] <nate_> heatxsink, you have to be willing to accept that a lot of stuff isn't going to be working yet
[09:03] <teonilia> hallo
[09:03] <heatxsink> nate_:  well i got almost everything working :-)
[09:03] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: can you tell me that what will be my syntax of command?
[09:03] <heatxsink> nate_:  but I understand
[09:03] <nate_> heatxsink, although the developers may appreciate you telling them about this
[09:03] <heatxsink> nate_:  this is acting the same stinking way it was acting when I was on breezy
[09:03] <heatxsink> i will
[09:03] <teonilia> hi wotyu name
[09:04] <teonilia> iem deutach
[09:04] <dispanser> linuxboyfriend: I believe he wants you to add every user to the "dialout" group
[09:04] <dispanser> try system -> administration -> users and groups
[09:05] <linuxboyfriend> dispanser: lemme check
[09:05] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: 'sudo usermod -Gdip,dialout USERNAME'
[09:06] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: or just 'sudo vi /etc/group'   ...
[09:06] <nmsa> eobanb: fyi: http://quozl.us.netrek.org/ anyway I can't start my vpn connection, it looks after a ppp0 which I don't have
[09:08] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: ok, done, thanks a lot
[09:08] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: let me know if it works, pls
[09:08] <intelikey> why would /usr/share/man/man8/ld.so.8.gz  be executable ?  that makes no sense.....
[09:09] <carny> hey where is the kernel config file on ubuntu 5.10??
[09:09] <pvd2006> ok I installed all the packages I needed to going by the ubuntu guide to installing codecs.  I had them all working then I installed the win32_codec to play certain .wmv files, no my mp3 files wont play
[09:09] <pvd2006> I tried to reinstall it, but it didnt work
[09:09] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: ok, i am going off line for 5 mins for that checking
[09:10] <carny> anyone?
[09:10] <intelikey> carny did ya look in /boot ?
[09:11] <skrat> Hi there. can anybody help with installation problem? I am installing 5.10 from DVD.. after installing base system, and rebooting, the installer says "Configuring installer" or "Preparing installation", I don't know exactly, it's just a first screen after system startup.. and top says that apt-get is eating 99.9% CPU
[09:11] <carny> ohh nice
[09:12] <nate_> skrat, installing from DVD?
[09:12] <skrat> but nothing happen then, do I need internet connection to install ubuntu from DVD?
[09:12] <intelikey> been one there on every default linux i've ever messed with.  carny  :)
[09:12] <skrat> nate_: yeah, from DVD
[09:12] <nate_> skrat, what are your system specs?
[09:12] <heatxsink_> nate_:  I modprobed sg
[09:13] <heatxsink_> nate_:  and now when I unplug then plugin my ipod I get a SCSI subsystem initialized
[09:13] <skrat> nate_: i686 (Centrino 1,4 GHz), 256 MB RAM, 60 GB HD, 6 GB linux partition, it's a notebook..
[09:13] <aroticoz> Playing avi and other video files ? Codecs? Where do I get them? Thanks in advance
[09:13] <Frogzoo> !restricted
[09:13] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:13] <intelikey> aroticoz also see vlc
[09:13] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:13] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[09:14] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:14] <nate_> heatxsink, sweeeeet
[09:14] <carny> thanx mate
[09:14] <carny> hey a program im trying to install says it cant find it.. is there any default place programs usually look
[09:14] <carny> or do i need to get the kernel source??
[09:14] <nate_> skrat, was just thinking that it could have memory issues with installing from a DVD, what with having so many more packages and whatnot, but not with your setup....so nvm
[09:15] <pvd2006> IF you do an apt-get install can it mess up previous packages you installed?
[09:15] <intelikey> carny you got b-e installed ?
[09:15] <nate_> pvd2006, how do you mean, mess up?
[09:15] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:15] <skrat> nate_: so? do you have any idea how to solve this?
[09:16] <nate_> skrat, no, sorry
[09:16] <skrat> I just want the installer to continue
[09:16] <carny> its saying: the kernel modules did not compile and in the log its says its because it cant find the kernel config file
[09:16] <heatxsink_> nate_:  now I modprobe'd sbp2
[09:16] <heatxsink_> sitll no scsi devices
[09:16] <nate_> heatxsink, and the box exploded?
[09:16] <heatxsink_> nope
[09:16] <heatxsink_> not yet...
[09:16] <pvd2006> nate_: well you see I installed all the codecs I needed through the synaptic and I got all my movie and mp3 files to work then I installed a win_32codec to play certain .wmv files and now I cant play any mp3 files.
[09:16] <heatxsink_> still didn't mount the thing
[09:16] <skrat> nate_: or any suggestion where can I found help?
[09:17] <intelikey> kernel headers installed ?    kernel source ?   carny that error you give, not knowing what you are messing with doesn't tell me much ?
[09:17] <pvd2006> I followed the ubuntu guide to install the codecs
[09:17] <nate_> heatxsink, it may be that firewire scanning software is underdeveloped, as one of the results of searching your error indicated.  I didn't look to see how old it was.  You should hit up the developers though
[09:17] <nate_> skrat, google?
[09:18] <servjew> hello, i would like to send two different outputs to two video cards. one is agp, and is currently installed. the other is a PCI standard issue cirrus logig or something. specifically, id like to be able to send the Xorg output to the AGP and the console output to PCI video card. should i even be thinking about this kinda stuff ?
[09:18] <heatxsink_> nate_:  k
[09:18] <nate_> pvd2006, are you in the US?
[09:18] <pvd2006> nate_ yes
[09:18] <nate_> pvd2006, sorry, i don't support illegal activities
[09:18] <carny> apparently
[09:18] <chuckyp> servjew, hrm.. I dunno about splitting console output from x output
[09:18] <pvd2006> what are you talking about nate_?
[09:18] <pvd2006> illegal
[09:18] <nate_> pvd2006, but i'm sure someone else here will
[09:19] <pvd2006> what is illegal?
[09:19] <carny> how do i install kernel source?
[09:19] <nate_> pvd2006, those win32codecs and mp3 codecs are illegal
[09:19] <chuckyp> nate_, depends were he lives
[09:19] <Nembutal> illegal to copy
[09:19] <Nembutal> you mean
[09:19] <Nembutal> ?
[09:19] <fek> moin
[09:19] <nate_> ha
[09:19] <Nembutal> or to use
[09:19] <Nembutal> in the usa$
[09:19] <squeaka2> goobay
[09:19] <nate_> he is in the us
[09:19] <nate_> that's why i asked
[09:19] <Nembutal> I don't believe a codec is illegal just by existing :)
[09:19] <Lorentz`> could someone explain to me how to edit global menu's in gnome2 on ubuntu breezy? we're trying out ubuntu to use on our desktop systems, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to edit menu's for all users. i remember SuSE and RH having something like applications-all-users:/// in nautilus, but i can't seem to find em in ubuntu
[09:20] <blady> ??
[09:20] <nate_> well, i choose not to be involved, enough said
[09:20] <Lorentz`> so is there a way to edit menu's globally, or will it be hacking into xml files?
[09:20] <Nembutal> Lorentz`, alacarte editor
[09:20] <intelikey> carny  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux   maybe  or search there...
[09:20] <Lorentz`> alacarte?
[09:20] <Nembutal> oh, for all users
[09:20] <Lorentz`> ok, great... let me see
[09:20] <Lorentz`> yeah, for all users :)
[09:20] <pvd2006> Hmm what is the program like winamp but for linux?
[09:20] <Lorentz`> xmms
[09:20] <Lorentz`> beep
[09:20] <pvd2006> thanks
[09:20] <nate_> Lorentz`, there is a /usr/share directory for adding files for all users
[09:21] <servjew> yeah, i was just thinking that its going to be an arduous if not impossible task. but as far as sticking a second video card in a free PCI slot, should i just try it and see what happens ? anything i should know ? or where should i be looking for info/help on WWW ?
[09:21] <intelikey> carny synaptic should have a list of kernel/linux trees   or aptitude for that matter.
[09:21] <Frogzoo> Lorentz`: must be something under /etc/gnome
[09:21] <nate_> let me find more info
[09:21] <carny> ok thanx :)
[09:21] <bradd__> hey, How do I put files on a disk???
[09:21] <bradd__> Like iso
[09:21] <Lorentz`> true, there is, but since some other distro' s had easy accessible menu's within nautilus through gnome-vfs, i was wondering if ubuntu had something like that
[09:21] <Frogzoo> bradd__: k3b is very nice
[09:21] <Lorentz`> and since sometimes apps need to be added by people without any real knowledge of editing system files...
[09:22] <Frogzoo> bradd__: but you can just right click & iso & select write to disk
[09:22] <nate_> Lorentz`, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2522492
[09:22] <nate_> Lorentz`, an example of adding it for all users
[09:22] <intelikey> bradd__ gnome-backer ?
[09:22] <bradd__> I did, there is no ISO thing
[09:22] <intelikey> xcdroast ?
[09:22] <nate_> Lorentz`, no app for it, but quite easy
[09:22] <intelikey> cdrecord ?
[09:22] <Lorentz`> aah
[09:22] <Lorentz`> ok
[09:23] <MrDez> is craigslist down for you folks?
[09:23] <Lorentz`> ehm
[09:23] <ABCD> I cannot get vncserver to work - I can get it to show the crosshatch pattern, but no actual GUI loads
[09:23] <Lorentz`> that's " How can I browse files and folders as root user in Nautilus  ?"
[09:23] <bradd__> I got the 1st SUSE CD.... it came in a tar.gz
[09:24] <pvd2006> there we go
[09:24] <pvd2006> I just have to use xmms for mp3s
[09:24] <bradd__> OH NEVER MIND
[09:24] <pvd2006> and the other ones for everything else
[09:24] <pvd2006> hehe
[09:24] <nate_> Lorentz`, it adds it into the menu
[09:24] <Lorentz`> ah ok :)
[09:24] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: hi
[09:24] <Frogzoo> how'd you do?
[09:24] <Lorentz`> sorry, didn't have coffee yet ;)
[09:25] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: yes, my other user is able to dial but he can not edit /etc/wvdial.conf
[09:25] <nate_> Lorentz`, under Application->System, hence the Categories=Application;System;
[09:25] <Lorentz`> true, true
[09:25] <Lorentz`> thanks :)
[09:25] <zanth> good day, after having been away from my comp for a little while I booted it up and to my dismay, I can't get gnome nor kde to load, not sure why this happened at all it worked fine when I shut down
[09:25] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: adding the user in dialout didn't work, then i edited sudoers
[09:25] <zanth> I'm presently in failsafe mode
[09:25] <nate_> linuxboy, change the group rights to /etc/wvdial.conf to allow writing and change the group to whatever the dialer group is
[09:26] <bradd__> ok, so I go the .iso and opened it.... it came up in a new window... what do I do now?
[09:26] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: what's wvdial.conf ? (maybe just chgrp to dialout...)
[09:26] <nate_> zanth, install updates before shutdown?
[09:26] <Frogzoo> bradd__: right click
[09:26] <zanth> oh
[09:26] <zanth> yes I did do that :)
[09:26] <bradd__> on what?
[09:26] <nate_> zanth, so it's likely one of them caused it
[09:26] <Frogzoo> bradd__: on the iso
[09:26] <ABCD> I cannot get vncserver to work - I can get it to show the crosshatch pattern, but no actual GUI loads
[09:26] <intelikey> zanth rm /home/<user>/.*auth*    then reboot.
[09:27] <nate_> zanth, but in the meantime look at the X logs to see why it isn't starting
[09:27] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: i am using wvdial to dialout
[09:27] <bradd__> OH
[09:27] <bradd__> thanks
[09:27] <bradd__> I was doing it wrong
[09:27] <nate_> zanth, or do what intelikey said
[09:27] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: do you mean that primary group should be dialout?
[09:27] <ndlovu> I want to use hdparm to streamline my system, any ideas how to figure out what are the correct settings to pass for my hard drive?
[09:27] <zanth> intelikey I will give that a shot
[09:27] <zanth> nate I'll do that
[09:27] <nate_> ndlovu, if you find out, tell me
[09:27] <ndlovu> nate_ will do
[09:27] <zanth> I'll check it out before I kill the file
[09:28] <LS|-away-> why does "sudo nautilus" work but "gksudo nautilus" did not?
[09:28] <nate_> ndlovu, only way i figured it out was by changing settings and running: hdparm -tT
[09:28] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: no, not necessary at all
[09:28] <nate_> ndlovu, and just keeping whichever ones were fastest
[09:28] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: my other user is not able to edit /etc/wvdial.conf, this file stores the username and password and dialup number
[09:29] <zanth> brb
[09:29] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: why does anyone else need to edit wvdial.conf - just set & forget
[09:29] <intelikey> LS|-away- "sudo nautilus" will hose your .Xauthority file and you'll be like zanth looking for a way to get x to start without failsafe mode....
[09:29] <btn> Has anyone here installed MuPad 3.2 succesfuly?
[09:29] <ndlovu> nate_, thanks for the suggestion... I'm hoping I can find out more directly, but it is a good backup strategy
[09:29] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: because here in my country there is a card system and everyone has his own card to use user and password and dialup
[09:30] <nate_> ndlovu, might want to check out sourceforge or freshmeat, this sounds like a common request
[09:30] <Zanth> that worked :)
[09:30] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: user specific settings can go in ~/.wvdialrc
[09:30] <Zanth> so what is the .*auth* file and what does it do?
[09:31] <ndlovu> thanks nate_ I'm trolling through the ubuntuforums at the moment but still no direct answers
[09:31] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: there is no file with this name
[09:31] <purpleide1> does some know how to "apt-cdrom add" an ubuntu .iso image that i downloaded (eg: flight 5) without burning it to a real disk. i tried mounting it with -o loop and i'm not sure how to get apt-cdrom to pick that up.
[09:31] <btn> I installed MuPad 3.2 with dpkg -i "xyz" and that worked, but if I run the command mupad i get a lib error..
[09:31] <nate_> ndlovu, just turned up this in the repos: blktool
[09:31] <Mantice> How come when I click System --> then About Ubuntu it says  Cannot launch entry
[09:31] <Mantice> Details: Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory)
[09:31] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: not yet there isn't but wvdial looks for it
[09:31] <nate_> ndlovu, not as specific as hdparm and might offer some better config tools
[09:31] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: wait
[09:31] <intelikey> Frogzoo and linuxboyfriend maybe let each user run  wvdialconf .wvdialrc  thus setting up the local user .wvdialrc so they can all have custom settings and privet info...
[09:32] <Frogzoo> intelikey: I agree
[09:32] <nate_> purpleide1, try file:///path/to/iso/mount
[09:32] <nate_> purpleide1, in the sources.list
[09:33] <Zanth> intelikey: what is the *auth* file that I deleted?
[09:33] <Bmoney> how can I make xbindkeys start automaticly?
[09:33] <intelikey> could even make a master copy with the personal info as "#put your info here"   and put it in /etc/skel/
[09:33] <Bmoney> when Linux boots
[09:33] <GnarusLeo> Do you  have like daemon tools for linux? So I can mount an .iso so it will appear as a cdrom?
[09:33] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: intelikey: should i give write permission of wvdial.conf to my other user
[09:34] <intelikey> Zanth two of them probably  .Xauthority  and .Iceauthority    lock files of a sort zanth.
[09:34] <ABCD> nevermind...
[09:34] <purpleide1> nate_: so:
[09:34] <purpleide1> in sources.list:
[09:34] <purpleide1> deb file:[/home/name/file.iso]  ?? or what?
[09:34] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: no - as intelikey suggests 'chgrp dialout /usr/bin/wvdialconf'
[09:34] <Zanth> intelikey: thanks
[09:34] <nate_> purpleide1, no
[09:35] <intelikey> youre welcome.
[09:35] <Chodder> !xfishtank
[09:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chodder
[09:35] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: scratch that - not necessary
[09:35] <nate_> purpleide1, deb file:///path/to/iso/mount/ breezy main restricted
[09:35] <Frogzoo> linuxboyfriend: just 'wvdialconf ~/.wvdialrc'  should do
[09:35] <nate_> purpleide1, why even use the cdrom anyways, do you have constant network access?
 Frogzoo: intelikey: should i give write permission of wvdial.conf to my other user <--- could remove it if you are letting them make their own  .wvdialrc files.
[09:36] <pvd2006> whats the best package to use to run windows programs through linux?
[09:36] <GigaClon> wine
[09:36] <nate_> pvd2006, best free one is wine
[09:36] <nate_> pvd2006, but there are arguably better ones that cost $$$
[09:36] <pvd2006> like VMware?
[09:36] <purpleide1> nate_: but that has to be a mounted dir from a mount -o loop right? i can't just plug a pointer to a .iso file?
[09:36] <purpleide1> i do, but for the flight5 files i was having trouble finding a correct repo that has them
[09:37] <nate_> pvd2006, that and CrossOverOffice and Cedega
[09:37] <purpleide1> unless you have a suggestion for that which is appreciated
[09:37] <Frogzoo> intelikey: you need wvdial.conf to set modem initialisation, leave dial strings to .wvdialrc
[09:37] <nate_> purpleide1, correct
[09:37] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: intelikey plz give me some time
[09:37] <btn> I can't find scilab with an apt-cache search yet it is supposedly in multiverse, any reason?
[09:37] <intelikey> linuxboyfriend i use wvdial.   and i don't have a global config at all.   only the local .wvdialrc.
[09:37] <linuxboyfriend> Frogzoo: intelikey beb
[09:37] <nate_> purpleide1, i just know that i comment out my cdrom and haven't needed to use the cdrom yet.  what is flight5?
[09:37] <intelikey> Frogzoo see above ^
[09:37] <linuxboyfriend> brb
[09:38] <purpleide1> nate_: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[09:39] <fla|office> ?
[09:39] <nate_> purpleide1, ahh, i'm sorry i have only used up to breezy
[09:40] <ABCD> how can I get vncserver to actually start gnome - it doesn't appear to be working, currently
[09:40] <Nembutal> ABCD, just use vino ?
[09:40] <intelikey> Frogzoo also the /etc/ppp/*secrets  files are removed here to add a bit of privicy
[09:40] <nate_> purpleide1, your only option i can see is to automount the iso on boot and have apt point to the mountpoint
[09:40] <Nembutal> ABCD, vino is the vncserver for gnome$
[09:40] <ABCD> ah, ok
[09:40] <purpleide1> nate_: no worries, i've been going with dapper, because i've got new new hardware, and it's a laptop on top of it. needed something newer. pretty stable so far
[09:40] <Nembutal> it's in Preferences/remote desktop
[09:40] <GnarusLeo> Do you  have like daemon tools for linux? So I can mount an .iso so it will appear as a cdrom?
[09:40] <Nembutal> I mean, Gnome-Menu->System->Preferences-> Remote Desktop
[09:41] <Nembutal> or something alike
[09:41] <nate_> purpleide1, you might need to point apt to a directory within the iso, btw
[09:41] <Nembutal> GnarusLeo, you can mount the iso
[09:41] <Nembutal> with mount
[09:41] <Nembutal> it can handle iso9660 files
[09:41] <GnarusLeo> Nembutal, or really? How do I?
[09:41] <intelikey> mount -o loop file.iso mountpoint
[09:41] <Nembutal> yep
[09:41] <GnarusLeo> intelikey, sweet, thanks alot
[09:41] <ABCD> Nembutal: I'm working on a "machine" that has no display driver - ergo, no gdm - how do I get to it from the command line?
[09:41] <nate_> mount -o loop -t iso9660 <source iso> <target dir>
[09:42] <Nembutal> ABCD, oh
[09:42] <nate_> or leave off the t if it will take it
[09:42] <Nembutal> ABCD, you want a vnc to a commandlien?
[09:42] <purpleide1> nate_: yup, hang on a sec, just seeing if the file: directive works
[09:42] <Nembutal> mh, is that even possible?
[09:42] <intelikey> -t is not needed for iso9660   but not a bad idea.
[09:42] <Nembutal> yep
[09:42] <Nembutal> it will recognize it automatically
[09:42] <Nembutal> usually
[09:42] <mcquaid> hello, my gf4 card died and i have to use this old voodoo3 for the time being
[09:42] <nate_> purpleide1, i'd be surprised if it didn't
[09:42] <mcquaid> it's working except for opengl
[09:43] <mcquaid> i installed libglide3 and ran ldconfig but not sure if it's still using libglide2 which was already installed
[09:43] <mcquaid> glxgears runs for a couple of secs and then seems to lock
[09:43] <ABCD> no, I have ubuntu-desktop installed, but I don't have a display driver on that machine - I want to use VNC to get a display phyically on this machine, but logically on that one, if that makes sence
[09:43] <mcquaid> and glxinfo states i don't have hardware accel
[09:43] <intelikey> tightvnc to console..... not ssh ?
[09:44] <intelikey> oh yeah....  sorry.... i caught up now.
[09:44] <aside> ?
[09:45] <aside> first try:)
[09:46] <ABCD> I just need to be able to start a VNC server (that works) from the command line - the VNC client is on another "machine"
[09:46] <intelikey> i think i'll uncover a box and pull the hd out of it.......
[09:46] <FlannelKing> intelikey: just rip it out!
[09:46] <intelikey> :)
[09:46] <FlannelKing> the still beating HD, ripped out of the case, with your bare hands.
[09:47] <aside> wow
[09:47] <FlannelKing> then you could eat it!
[09:47] <intelikey> my teeth are not that good.
[09:47] <FlannelKing> dentures are the answer.
[09:47] <aside> mine is ok
[09:47] <aside> hah
[09:47] <Frogzoo> is it possible to proxy gaim through the corporate firewall via http if port 6667 is blocked? is proxying irc via port 80 possible, for instance?
[09:48] <Frogzoo> intelikey: stay away from aerated drinks
[09:48] <purpleide1> nate_: the flight cd is mounted at /mnt/iso and i put deb file:/mnt/iso/ dapper main restricted
[09:48] <purpleide1> in sources.list... currently not sure it's working, still playing around
[09:48] <intelikey> aerated ?    carbonated ?
[09:49] <Frogzoo> intelikey: the same
[09:49] <intelikey> ok will do
[09:49] <Frogzoo> lol
[09:50] <nate_> purpleide1, file:///
[09:50] <nate_> purpleide1, not file:/
[09:50] <Zanth> how difficult is it to change the overall look of the desktop when running gnome?  I guess, how do I install a theme?
[09:51] <nate_> purpleide1, it's file://, like http://, then /mnt/iso, making it file:///mnt/iso
[09:51] <nate_> Zanth, download the tarball and install it from the theme manager
[09:51] <nate_> Zanth, check out www.gnome-look.org
[09:51] <ABCD> to ask my question again, how do I run a VNC server from a command line
[09:51] <ABCD> ?
[09:51] <Zanth> thanks nate
[09:51] <intelikey> using the local ip  file://
[09:51] <Zanth> do I look for the GDM themes?
[09:52] <lolziac> i got a problem installing gnome, or when i do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i get the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10207
[09:52] <Zanth> or gtk2.x?
[09:52] <nate_> Zanth, ummm, i think it's listed on the left
[09:52] <nate_> Zanth, on that site
[09:52] <purpleide1> nate_: i don't know if that changed it... it says something in man sources.list but it's not working 100% (scroll to the file: example)
[09:52] <lolziac> its not only gnome, i cant install kynaptic or synaptic
[09:52] <intelikey> you can browse your system in ff  or  lynx  or w3b   with file://
[09:53] <nate_> purpleide1, did you try file://?
[09:53] <trucmuch> hello
[09:53] <nate_> purpleide1, oh, right
[09:53] <nate_> purpleide1, you need to put /mnt/iso/pool i think
[09:54] <purpleide1> nate: pool?
[09:54] <nate_> purpleide1, it's the directory all the packages are in on the cd
[09:54] <purpleide1> oh yes, i see. really pool. i'll try
[09:54] <nate_> so literally: file:///mnt/iso/pool/
[09:54] <Mman> can anyone help me..i got a problem on how to share files from other computers in a network
[09:55] <Bmoney> I need to know that too
[09:55] <nate_> and it only takes main and restricted
[09:55] <Mman> can anyone help me?
[09:55] <nate_> Mman, never got it working or really cared to myself, srry
[09:56] <nate_> purpleide1, wait, hmmm, maybe not pool, let me check something out
[09:56] <Bmoney> I have a Mac I want to share w/.... Im sharing an internet connection via ibook airport, then to Ethernet.... but I still can't set up a network
[09:56] <purpleide1> nate: i was trying with dists
[09:56] <Bmoney> or share files
[09:56] <purpleide1> which has a good structure, but not picking it up really.
[09:57] <nate_> purpleide1, no, not dists or pool actually
[09:57] <Frogzoo> dapper discussion is starting -> #ubuntu-meeting for those interested
[09:57] <nate_> purpleide1, the entry would be: deb file:///mnt/iso/ breezy main restricted
[09:57] <nate_> errr
[09:57] <nate_> dapper
[09:58] <marlun> What file controls which partitions that should be mounted at start?
[09:58] <nate_> that is, if dapper has thos sections on their iso
[09:58] <Frogzoo> marlun: /etc/fstab
[09:58] <marlun> Frogzoo: thanks!
[09:59] <purpleide1> nate_: that's what i've got exactly. (actually i tried it with file:/ but even file:/// and same thing... doesn't seem to pick it up. it says failed
[09:59] <purpleide1> :(
[09:59] <tomaras> does anyone use nagios with apan?
[09:59] <trucmuch> hello, does anybody have already installed fltk from sources under breezy ?
[09:59] <nate_> purpleide1, hmmm, maybe it doesn't deal with a mounted iso well
[10:00] <nate_> purpleide1, you might need to copy the repos to a directory on the file system then
[10:02] <purpleide1> nate_: maybe you're right. i might have to copy hrm. doesn't seem to make sense.
[10:02] <nate_> purpleide1, i don't know how mounting to loop behaves when interacting with programs
[10:03] <nate_> purpleide1, which i suspect is to blame for the weirdness
[10:04] <purpleide1> well i'll give the copying a try... it says in the source.list man the file is for an NFS mounts or local mirrors or archives
[10:05] <nate_> yeah, but I suspect mounting it to loop isn't the same as mounting normal file systems, but that there is a 'virtual
[10:05] <aeolist> anybody know how i can rip a vcd?
[10:05] <nate_> 'virtual' aspect to it
[10:06] <nate_> lol, i feel like one of those guys who used to give me help all the time
[10:07] <jc-denton> what font is used in the ubuntu logo
[10:07] <jc-denton> ?
[10:07] <nate_> you can find it in synaptic
[10:07] <TylerWalts> Is there a good codec pack or player combo that I can get, (similar to the k-lite pack for windows w/ media player clasic) that will work for all kinds of the random avi, mpg, divx, etc ?
[10:07] <nate_> ttf-ubuntu-title
[10:08] <jc-denton> ah they have an extra font
[10:08] <slindsay> Kernel compiling question for you guys:  I want to make some modifications to snd_nm256 module.  How do I compile *just* that module?  I have the full kernel source, but I'd prefer not to compile all of it.  Is there makefile target that will do that?
[10:08] <KakiPukul> xine... TylerWalts, xine + gxine
[10:08] <TylerWalts> sweet, thanks
[10:08] <GigaClon> TylerWalts, w32codecs
[10:08] <jc-denton> nate_: thx
[10:08] <nate_> slindsay, not that i know of, sorry
[10:09] <jc-denton> i'm also looking for a good ubuntu artwork site
[10:10] <MistaED> hey just wondering with dapper drake, will there be a really good frontend/program for xorg configuration?
[10:10] <jock09> !restricted
[10:10] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:11] <nate_> !FreeFormats
[10:11] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:11] <intelikey> MistaED if by good frontend  you mean gui,  no.  how can you configure x from within x  cause most people needing to config x cant get x to start.....
[10:12] <nate_> jc-denton, lots of ubuntu art can be found among the other backgrounds on gnome-look.org
[10:12] <KakiPukul> MistaED, like the one in Fedore Core?
[10:12] <intelikey> but there will be good apps.
[10:12] <jock09> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a gui tool
[10:12] <intelikey> dpkg is not a gui tool....
[10:12] <MistaED> that's where that utility would have a viable failsafe, although i was thinking upon the lines of configuring twinview/dual monitors efficiently without needing to edit xorg.conf to death
[10:12] <aeolist> jock09, it's not gui
[10:12] <MistaED> like SaX2 for instance or redhat's one
[10:13] <KakiPukul> yeah
[10:13] <aeolist> intelikey, let's kill him...
[10:13] <intelikey> you hold him i'll kick him
[10:13] <KakiPukul> I would like that too, MistaED, missed some Fedora Core's features...
[10:13] <molkko_> ubotu: free formats quite ok. everybody: when buying consumer electronics e.g. "mp3" players remember to require support for those free formats. there are media players that support ogg
[10:13] <farous> MistaED: what card you have
[10:13] <ubotu> molkko_: that's too long
[10:13] <aeolist> okie
[10:13] <jc-denton> nate_: k i'll check that
[10:13] <jc-denton> thx again
[10:14] <MistaED> i personally don't have a problem editing xorg.conf, but it's just a good idea which i wanted to ask for dapper drake, as it will be maintained for 5 years
[10:14] <MistaED> farous: an nvidia 6800GT
[10:15] <ubtnwb> hi
[10:15] <nate_> i likey nvidia
[10:15] <farous> MistaED: ok good point though. Do not know how feasible a gui could be built for that. By the way on ati we have aticonfig which handle most of that
[10:15] <ubtnwb> how can to know if i have xorg 7.0?
[10:15] <TylerWalts> What repository do I need to have to be able to install w32codecs?  I get this error message:  E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:16] <farous> TylerWalts: there is a link on the forums do not think it is in repos
[10:16] <KakiPukul> Seveas repos... it's not the official repos
[10:16] <KakiPukul> that's why i suggest xine-ui libxine gxine
[10:16] <jock09> !tell TylerWalts about restricted
[10:16] <TylerWalts> I get the same error when trying to get xine also :(
[10:17] <chuckyp> TylerWalts, The w32codecs aren't in the repos
[10:17] <farous> !tell TylerWalts about repos
[10:17] <intelikey> !tell TylerWalts about restricted
[10:17] <nate_> don't support restricted formats, imo :/
[10:17] <Chodder> is ubotu not working?
[10:17] <farous> TylerWalts: you might need to enable some extra repos like universe and multiverse
[10:17] <intelikey> just didn't want to be out of suit
[10:17] <KakiPukul> TylerWalts, you need to enable "universe" section of your repos...
[10:17] <TylerWalts> farous, its working, thanks
[10:18] <farous> yw :)
[10:18] <nate_> there are not win32codecs or divx4linux in any official repositories
[10:18] <KakiPukul> for example. TylerWalts
[10:18] <nate_> they are illegal in the US
[10:18] <KakiPukul> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse"
[10:18] <jock09> they are not nate
[10:18] <chuckyp> TylerWalts, you can use vlc
[10:18] <intelikey> !tell TylerWalts about vlc
[10:18] <jock09> win32codecs are not illegal if you have a valid windows copy
[10:19] <intelikey> !win32codecs
[10:19] <ubotu> from memory, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:19] <molkko_> ref freeformats: when buying "mp3" players, remember to require ogg format support. such players are in the stores but somewhat more expensive :(
[10:19] <psycho_oreos> jock09: I couldn't imagine trying to fork out another ~$300 just for that purpose
[10:19] <ubtnwb> how i can to know which xorg version i have installed?
[10:19] <jock09> psycho most people have a valid windows license since they bought a preinstalled windows
[10:20] <psycho_oreos> jock09: ahh yes, that comes with the prebuilt computers heh.. That's mostly XP Home
[10:20] <TylerWalts> KakiPukul & all, thanks
[10:20] <KakiPukul> I love my oneliner
[10:21] <KakiPukul> I don;t have any valid Windows license :)
[10:21] <psypher246> can anyone pls help me with a mysql install on a server install. when trying to install mysql-server i get an error that I have to make a choice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. which one do I choose, why do I choose it and how do I choose it, there is no synaptic install or x. pls help quite urgent, thanks. nothing on forums bout this
[10:21] <intelikey> ubtnwb did you try  X -version
[10:21] <TylerWalts> Software copyright should not last for 70 yrs, or even been around for that long
[10:22] <purpleide1> nate: i think atm i'm givin up and poppin in a cd :(
[10:22] <KakiPukul> well... "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted since it first released
[10:22] <chuckyp> psypher246, are you running breezy?
[10:22] <KakiPukul> that's like more than 100 years
[10:22] <psypher246> yes
[10:22] <chuckyp> psypher246, well then apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[10:23] <Paul89> hello everyone, can anyone tell me why my server keeps on setting himself back to his old ip while i told /etc/network/interfaces to use a fixed IP?
[10:23] <ubtnwb> intelikey, thx
[10:23] <psypher246> why?
[10:23] <TylerWalts> KakiPukul, are you sure?  I believe "Happy Birthday" is in the public domain.  If not, who owns it?
[10:23] <chuckyp> psypher246, that will install mysql 4.1
[10:23] <poningru> TylerWalts: time warner owns the lyrics
[10:23] <psypher246> why not the ubuntu one and for interest sake how do I choose that one
[10:23] <KakiPukul> TylerWalts, you can google for that...
[10:23] <TylerWalts> Damn that sucks
[10:24] <psypher246> sorry I just don't get the diff between choosing ubuntu packages and the real ones, why are they there to confuse us?
[10:24] <KakiPukul> hehe... yeah Happy Birthyday is copyrighted... it sucks...
[10:24] <chuckyp> psypher246, I don't knwo what you are talking about wiht the ubuntu one but if you want ot see what is availible try apt-cache search mysql-server   and it will list availible options
[10:24] <psycho_oreos> KakiPukul: welcome to the capitalist/propriatory world
[10:24] <ahFeel> j#eoz
[10:24] <KakiPukul> I am a capitalist myself... :)
[10:24] <chuckyp> psypher246, and if you want to see package info just apt-cache showpkg <packagename>  that should tell you the difference
[10:24] <psypher246> pakage mysql-server is a virtual package provided by:
[10:25] <psypher246> mysql-server
[10:25] <psypher246> 4.1
[10:25] <KakiPukul> but i made money by allowing others to use my works :)
[10:25] <cwillu> Paul89: i.e., turning off dhcp?
[10:25] <psypher246> and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1
[10:25] <nath> ...
[10:25] <Paul89> cwillu: i can't do that, it's on someone else's network and that's a mixed network, some pc's rely on the dhcp
[10:25] <psypher246> chuckyp thanks I will try that
[10:26] <chuckyp> psypher246, I dunno is it a security patch maybe?  I'm running dapper perhaps someone with breezy can apt-cache search and help you.
[10:26] <cwillu> no, I was asking if you turned it off in the config file :p
[10:26] <GigaClon> KakiPukul, how did you do that?
[10:26] <intelikey> Happy Birthyday is copyrighted ?    so sue me.
[10:26] <psypher246> nath? your not called bish nath by any chance?
[10:26] <KakiPukul> copyrighting and patents?
[10:26] <purpleide1> paul89: why do you need a static ip if you are on a dhcp configured network/
[10:26] <Paul89> cwillu: i have "iface eth0 inet static"
[10:26] <Paul89> purpleide1: for internet forwarding
[10:26] <cwillu> purpleide1: all sorts of reasons
[10:26] <nate_> setup dhcp to hand out the same address :)
[10:26] <TylerWalts> Maybe we can claim fair use for reasons of parody or vast public use
[10:26] <KakiPukul> I am very generous yet very giving, if you give me money :)
[10:26] <cwillu> Paul89: what does it say in system|admin|networking?
[10:27] <cwillu> I think it _might_ store that setting seperately
[10:27] <Paul89> cwillu: /system/admin/networking ?
[10:27] <chuckyp> 7 minutes till xubuntu blows up my laptop
[10:27] <cwillu> Paul89: System | Administration | Networking
[10:27] <cwillu> yes
[10:27] <Paul89> cwillu: i didn't install X, it's a p2 server
[10:27] <cwillu> sorry, thought you were turning it into a filesystem path :p
[10:27] <intelikey> chuckyp you got it on a count down timer ?
[10:28] <Paul89> cwillu: i was :p
[10:28] <cwillu> okay, so the next question is how does that gui work in the command line world :p
[10:28] <cwillu> let me check something
[10:28] <Paul89> cwillu: there's a config file: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:28] <cwillu> can you pastebin me your interfaces file?
[10:28] <farous> Paul89: can you post your interfaces file
[10:28] <Paul89> er yes
[10:28] <Husio> Hi
[10:28] <farous> lol cwillu beat me to it
[10:29] <cwillu> Paul89: yes, but obviously it's not the last word in this :)
[10:29] <chuckyp> intelikey, apt has a estimated time left..... its downloading the packages now.
[10:29] <Paul89> i think i somehow set it up wrong
[10:29] <KakiPukul> cwillu, just run a terminal in any desktop environment... that's how
[10:30] <cwillu> KakiPukul: what are you talking about?
[10:30] <Husio> I have a problem with cherrypy. I've install it by apt and everything goes fine until running script - the message was no such a module cherrypy... any ideas ?
[10:30] <intelikey> oh it won't blow imediately chuckyp,  it will have to start installing crap first. then after about 2 minutes ........  POW !
[10:30] <chuckyp> intelikey, lol
[10:30] <chuckyp> intelikey, ands it dapper too extra boom
[10:30] <Paul89> uh.. where's the ubuntu pastebin? ^^;;
[10:30] <cwillu> KakiPukul: I know what a terminal is, I've got 4 of them active;  the question is whether the networking dialog in gnome does something other than edit the interfaces file
[10:30] <cwillu> !paste
[10:30] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:31] <Paul89> ty
[10:31] <cwillu> np :)
[10:31] <KakiPukul> cwillu, oh, GUI tool for networking in GNOME
[10:31] <cwillu> I'm really not trying to be grumpy, it's just coming naturally today :)
[10:31] <intelikey> did you      sudo tar -czf backup.tgz /etc      chuckyp
[10:31] <KakiPukul> just point System->Adminstration->Networking
[10:31] <cwillu> KakiPukul: he doesn't have gnome installed :)
[10:31] <Paul89> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10212
[10:31] <Husio> come on... any help ?
[10:32] <chuckyp> intelikey, nah fresh install of server from cd then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop dont' really care if it breaks
[10:32] <cwillu> thanks Paul89
[10:32] <intelikey> k
[10:32] <KakiPukul> well... or KDE, open control Panel and chck out for the Network control panel...
[10:32] <cwillu> no gui
[10:32] <cwillu> hence the initial confusion about paths
[10:32] <Paul89> KakiPukul: just console
[10:33] <marty> Husio, what exact ly is theerror
[10:33] <KakiPukul> no gui... try ifconfig?
[10:33] <intelikey> Paul89 you don't have x ?     is that possable ?
[10:33] <cwillu> intelikey: servers commonly don't have x
[10:33] <Paul89> intelikey: yes, type "server" when installing ubuntu
[10:33] <marlun> Is there a way to get only the calendar functionality of evolution? I don't want the rest.
[10:33] <KakiPukul> that;s the father of all GNU/Linux networking configurator
[10:33] <KakiPukul> marlun, evolution is a suite... it comes with all the features...
[10:34] <intelikey> no body can breath without X    don't kid me.
[10:34] <Paul89> intelikey: personally i don't like X
[10:34] <marlun> KakiPukul: argh, ok
[10:34] <cwillu> Paul89: what's the mapping and script lines about?
[10:35] <Paul89> cwillu: i don't know, it was already in there
[10:35] <cwillu> or were they just there?
[10:35] <cwillu> hmm
[10:35] <cwillu> mine doesn't have 'em
[10:35] <cwillu> (static as well)
[10:35] <KakiPukul> "network-console-config" .... cwillu, the same package that you setup network with during install
[10:35] <Paul89> Paul89: i just changed iface eth0 inet dhcp to iface eth0 inet static and the load underneath that
[10:35] <Paul89> KakiPukul: hey that could help, i'll try it
[10:35] <farous> Paul89: the only difference from your config and mine is netmask is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.0.0
[10:36] <intelikey> Paul89 i installed xorg and links2  to view pictures that were sent to me.... i generally have no x either.   was being facious
[10:36] <KakiPukul> well, you ask for no-gui right...
[10:36] <cwillu> still nice to know what the file being changed is;  doesn't look like theres anything wrong with the interfaces file
[10:36] <farous> Paul89: and i disableled the hotplug mapping
[10:36] <Lakini> anyone know of a way to change the size/colour of the popup in Rythymbox at all?
[10:36] <Paul89> farous: i'm not too familiar with that, what is it?
[10:37] <cwillu> Paul89: probably those lines I was asking about :)
[10:37] <farous> Paul89: first correct your netmask
[10:37] <cwillu> try commenting the three of them
[10:37] <intelikey> i remove hotplug and udev both.....
[10:37] <farous> Paul89: its the first time i seen it set it like you did
[10:37] <cwillu> farous: do you know that's not his netmask?
[10:37] <cwillu> 255.255.0.0 is perfectly valid, almost certainly not the problem here
[10:37] <cwillu> i.e., it won't break anything on a 192.168.0.0 network
[10:38] <farous> you are most familia cwillu with it
[10:38] <Paul89> inet addr:172.19.3.3 Bcast:172.19.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
[10:38] <Paul89> that's what's appointed by dhcp.. i think
[10:38] <cwillu> Paul89: your netmask is fine :)
[10:38] <cwillu> comment out the three lines (mapping, script and map) and see if it makes a difference for you
[10:38] <Paul89> ok :)
[10:38] <Paul89> ok, but won't it break anything?
[10:39] <intelikey> default netmask is 255.0.0.1
[10:39] <cwillu> worst case, uncomment them
[10:39] <cwillu> ifdown and ifup again
[10:39] <cwillu> intelikey: ?
[10:39] <Paul89> heh, worst case i can't get on it anymore because the server is 50 km away from me =p
[10:39] <nate_> restart networking even, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:39] <cwillu> ahhhhh
[10:39] <cwillu> it comes into focus :)
[10:39] <Paul89> that's why i want to be sure
[10:39] <nate_> Paul89, wow, know what you're doing then
[10:39] <Paul89> because the guy hosting it isn't home atm
[10:40] <farous> Paul89: wait till you are there than
[10:40] <cwillu> do you have access to the dhcp server?
[10:40] <cwillu> might be safer to just tell it to statically assign the address
[10:40] <Paul89> unfortunatly not, it's the router and it's restricted to the lan subnet
[10:40] <Paul89> but this guy has a mixed network and some laptops rely on dhcp so i can't just turn it off.. :(
[10:40] <cwillu> no
[10:41] <cwillu> not talking about turning it off :)
[10:41] <cwillu> just telling it that the server's mac address always gets that particular ip address
[10:41] <nate_> static dhcp
[10:41] <Paul89> KakiPukul: that package, how er.. how do i use it? ^^;;
[10:41] <intelikey> Mask:255.255.255.255 seems to work also....
[10:41] <cwillu> exactly
[10:41] <Paul89> cwillu: i'm not sure how/if that's possible
[10:41] <cwillu> intelikey: what are you talking about?
[10:41] <cwillu> what type of router?
[10:41] <Paul89> intelikey: dont think so -.-'
[10:41] <rixth> I installed expocity. Now metacity is fucked. I removed expocity and restarted X, it's still fucked. I have NO window borders.
[10:41] <rapha> Hi all!
[10:41] <Paul89> cwillu: copperjet
[10:42] <Paul89> intelikey: with 255.255.255.255 it's not possible to assign ANY ip's >.>
[10:42] <intelikey> Paul89 that's what mine is right now.... hehhe
[10:42] <cwillu> if it's at all industry strength, (which it sounds like it is, not a home router) it should be able to, but you need to configure it
[10:42] <KakiPukul> Paul89, checkout the file list...
[10:42] <cwillu> Paul89: that would actually just mean that absolutely everything is bounced off the default gateway
[10:43] <Fudgiepoos> rixth: metacity --replace &
[10:43] <Paul89> cwillu: there's a problem, because i can't get on it, and i had to explain the guy owning it to forward ports >.>
[10:43] <cwillu> lol
[10:43] <farous> hmm would starting the dhcp assignment at a higher number than the one given to your static ip work?
[10:43] <cwillu> if it were me, I'd comment out the three lines, but I also like driving :)
[10:43] <rapha> How can I get all the locale information installed in a Ubuntu system that was previously only set up as a server? I'm specifically missing the files under /usr/share/locale/*/LC_TIME
[10:43] <mrtwister|mobile> hello. have issue. installed Fc4/debian/ubuntu in saudi arabia. wget and apt-get not works. ping to hosts works. any suggest? aybe there some filters?
[10:43] <marty> Paul89, I missed the beginning of your prob - what are you trying to do? if you are concerned about when the DHCP lease will expire you can find it by " cat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[10:43] <marty> "
[10:43] <Paul89> farous: worth a try
[10:44] <m1cha> hey
[10:44] <cwillu> farous, the problem is that his server is being assigned by dhcp overriding his static settings (right?)
[10:44] <cwillu> careful Paul89
[10:44] <Paul89> cwillu: i can't do it right now, i don't have access to the dhcp :P
[10:44] <TylerWalts> mrtwister|mobile, can you ping google?  telnet 80 google.com?
[10:44] <mrtwister|mobile> yes
[10:44] <cwillu> good :)
[10:44] <mrtwister|mobile> i can
[10:44] <Paul89> marty: i'm trying to fix the IP of my server, but the thing won't listen to me
[10:44] <kuja> Bah! Dapper has caused me massive troubles, grr. Should've just waited :(
[10:44] <farous> cwillu: this might be because the ip is already taken. Frankly i do not knwo why that happen
[10:44] <cwillu> might cease to have access to the server :p
[10:45] <cwillu> Paul89: let me make sure I'm reading this right
[10:45] <cwillu> You're trying to statically assign an address
[10:45] <m1cha> i have a problem with the nvidia-glx driver. i messed around with the installer from nvidia and after that the "nvidia" driver i put in xorg.conf outputs "(EE) no devices found" how can i go revert the installer-mess ?
[10:45] <Paul89> farous: it's not taken, if i restart the network it takes .200 but after a while it switches back
[10:45] <mrtwister|mobile> root@amajid:~# telnet 80 google.com
[10:45] <TylerWalts> mrtwister|mobile, try lynx google.com ?
[10:45] <Paul89> cwillu: yes
[10:45] <Paul89> lol
[10:45] <cwillu> but the actual address (including the interfaces file itself?) gets set to a dhcp assigned address?
[10:45] <mrtwister|mobile> TylerWalts - not have lynx and links
[10:45] <mrtwister|mobile> server install
[10:46] <cwillu> does it actually change the interfaces file, or is it just the active settings (ifconfig)?
[10:46] <mrtwister|mobile> but ping work
[10:46] <TylerWalts> mrtwister|mobile, do you have a ftp client working?
[10:46] <mrtwister|mobile> wget and apt-get dont
[10:46] <marty> so what does "cat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[10:46] <marty> " show?
[10:46] <Paul89> cwillu: the interfaces file doesn't change, just active settings
[10:46] <mrtwister|mobile> ftp work too
[10:46] <Paul89> cwillu: but it takes a while.. about 20 minutes last time i think
[10:46] <marty> Paul89, this will confirm who is the dhcp server and what the lease time is
[10:46] <cwillu> about the time of a dhcp renew :/
[10:46] <OmegaAlpha> someone know of a data recovery tool for a partition gone to a mess?
[10:47] <cwillu> marty, it's not supposed to be using dhcp at all
[10:47] <mrtwister|mobile> TylerWalts: you suggest to replace http:// to ftp:// in apt.conf?
[10:47] <marty> Paul89, your ubuntu box will try to renew the lease when it gets to half-way through the lease
[10:47] <intelikey> rapha  only thing i have in any of those dirs is one symlink.... lrwxrwxrwx  1 0 0 27 Mar 13 03:36 coreutils.mo -> ../LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo
[10:47] <cwillu> marty, the interface file specifies static
[10:47] <Paul89> marty: it shouldn't be renewing no leases, it's supposed to be static
[10:48] <TylerWalts> mrtwister|mobile, possibly, you could try that but I've never done it
[10:48] <cwillu> Paul89: the only thing stopping me from telling you to just comment out the lines is the fact that it's remote, but I'm quite sure that's the problem
[10:48] <cwillu> how big of a deal is it if the server goes away until you can get to it?
[10:48] <Paul89> btw, cwillu, i'm looking at the interface file, at the mapping lines, but it just looks like the nic's are detected by hotplug, nothing more. but i could be wrong
[10:49] <cwillu> see, mine doesn't have those lines, and the other guy said he commented them out
[10:49] <rapha> intelikey: same thing for me. The thing I'm ultimately trying to achieve is a working strftime() output in PHP (working == displaying the date in the right locale). And so far the only thing I can think of why this wouldn't work is the empty German locale dir...
[10:49] <Paul89> cwillu: err.. not a really big deal, but i'd like to finish a vpn i'm setting up. but i guess it's worth a try
[10:49] <cwillu> hotplug got the ability to handle those settings, it's not the device detection that your seeing there
[10:49] <Paul89> cwillu: just comment them out and /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[10:49] <Paul89> cwillu: ok
[10:50] <cwillu> oo!! vpn!  fun :)
[10:50] <cwillu> openvpn?
[10:50] <Paul89> cwillu: yup ^^
[10:50] <cwillu> sweeeet
[10:50] <cwillu> got 4 of those in production :)
[10:50] <locomorto> Does anyone have a suggestion for a good font for use around KDE/GNOME?
[10:50] <marty> Paul89, you should be able to stop the process that is doing the dhcp renew - at least until you get access to the box properly
[10:50] <locomorto> As in, the main text body, title bar and so forth
[10:50] <Paul89> cwillu: i already got it set up on my home box, and it's working quite well now with ethernet tunneling
[10:50] <KakiPukul> "good" font. in what sense, locomorto ?
[10:50] <farous> so what does the  dhcdb do
[10:50] <intelikey> rapha  you could  " sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)   "  if you think some of your installed packages are broken or have broken or missing files.   but that's probably over kill.
[10:51] <Rower> http://82.196.99.35/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi <-- Check that out..
[10:51] <locomorto> KakiPukul: Sorry about that, I meant easily readible for long periods of time, and worked well with hinting
[10:51] <jquixote> I have a mouse problem with a Dell Latitude D810:  the pad is way slow, but the rubber pointer is the proper speed
[10:51] <jquixote> dapper here
[10:52] <Paul89> wish me luck :P
[10:52] <cwillu> good luck!
[10:52] <cwillu> :)
[10:52] <KakiPukul> Virtual Richard M. Stallman (vrms) - I really like Mr. Stallman in my pc inspecting "non-free" packages
[10:52] <farous> Paul89: alli can say is that i had network-manager installed on my other pc and had the same problem you have now
[10:52] <KakiPukul> locomorto, checkout the cleartype fonts...
[10:52] <farous> do you have it installed
[10:52] <Paul89> farous: what's network-manager ?
[10:52] <x3on> I've not been able to use my internal sd reader so I just plugged in a usb sd reader, how do I get ubuntu to see it?
[10:53] <Paul89> farous: i guess not then :p
[10:53] <farous> Paul89: if you do not know it you do not have it lol
[10:53] <Rower> do anyone know where the config file is for cgiirc
[10:53] <Paul89> yay, the network is still alive, and it's on the right IP right now
[10:53] <cwillu> heh
[10:53] <Paul89> now it just has to -stay- on the right ip :P
[10:54] <Paul89> i uncommented the hotplug lines
[10:54] <cwillu> ?
[10:54] <farous> Paul89: hopefully give it another 20 min lol
[10:54] <cwillu> commented you mean
[10:54] <Paul89> yes commented
[10:54] <cwillu> scaring me here :)
[10:54] <Paul89> heh
[10:55] <Paul89> but the funny thing is, i asked a friend his interfaces file and i practically copied it but i just changed the ip/netmask/gateway
[10:55] <Paul89> and he set his box up for static ip in the setup
[10:55] <cwillu> might be another config file I don't know about
[10:55] <farous> Paul89: i found that having it commented or not did not make lot of difference here
[10:56] <Paul89> ok
[10:57] <Paul89> but cwillu, you know a lot about openvpn ?
[10:57] <cwillu> been using it a couple years
[10:57] <cwillu> mostly bridged connections (easier on the windows clients)
[10:57] <_Rappy_> I want to run a command, on startup. Well, really after startup, when I'm logged inn, automatically. the command is just a single wordto run a program. How can I do this?
[10:57] <Paul89> bridged=ethernet tunnel?
[10:57] <cwillu> no
[10:57] <cwillu> it's the other mode
[10:57] <cwillu> oops
[10:57] <cwillu> yes
[10:58] <cwillu> ethernet as opposed to ip
[10:58] <Paul89> _Rappy_: so when you log in you want to run a command?
[10:58] <cwillu> it's the mode where even netbios and ipx traffic works :)
[10:58] <OmegaAlpha> anyone have poker3d-server setup on their box?
[10:58] <Paul89> _Rappy_: if you want that to happen on just a single account just edit .bashrc in your homedir
[10:58] <_Rappy_> Yes. Insted of opening the shell, and typing the command, I just want it to execute by it self
[10:58] <Paul89> cwillu: that's ethernet tunnel
[10:59] <Paul89> cwillu: but i don't understand bridging
[10:59] <cwillu> heh, it's bridged :p
[10:59] <Paul89> i set it up for me and a few friends so we could play lan-games over the vpn
[10:59] <cwillu> tap vs tun
[10:59] <Paul89> i'm using tap, but not bridged
[11:00] <cwillu> you sure?  :)
[11:00] <Paul89> no :p
[11:00] <Paul89> but i didn't deliberately bridge it or something
[11:00] <_Rappy_> Ok, but I've edited .bashrc for aliases, but I have no idea what to write for it to execute commands
[11:00] <cwillu> it's either routed or bridged
[11:00] <KakiPukul> bridging... it's like ICS or something?
[11:01] <Paul89> _Rappy_, it's just a shell script, i think :/
[11:01] <KakiPukul> or forwarding = 1 in /proc...
[11:01] <cwillu> not really;  openvpn running as a bridge means that the clients appear directly on the target lan;  the server isn't acting as a visible router
[11:01] <Paul89> cwillu: well, then it's bridged
[11:01] <marty> Paul89, Your config looks good
[11:01] <marty> Paul89, I think the problemis that dhclient3 is still running
[11:01] <Paul89> ok
[11:02] <cwillu> now, it can still be set to not actually talk to anything else (i.e., if you didn't bridge the tap device to the eth device)
[11:02] <marty> Paul89, I assume that you changed the config but doidn't restart networking?
[11:02] <Paul89> root 3558 0.0 0.7 2140 1012 ? S<s Mar11 0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[11:02] <Paul89> root 28866 0.0 0.4 1624 524 pts/3 S+ 11:02 0:00 grep dhclient3
[11:02] <Paul89> marty: yes i did
[11:02] <Paul89> cwillu, ah like that
[11:03] <marty> well from what I read of "interfaces" it looks for "dhcp" in the "iface" line and then starts dhclient3
[11:03] <Paul89> but do you know if you can connect to openvpn with the windows built in vpn-client? i'm using openvpn gui right now but if the built in client would work too that'd be awesome
[11:03] <Paul89> marty: the iface has "static"
[11:03] <cwillu> Paul89:  nope
[11:03] <Paul89> i thought so
[11:03] <cwillu> there's a windows openvpn build you use
[11:04] <cwillu> more secure and faster and easier to setup and all anyway :)
[11:04] <Paul89> heh, that's true
[11:04] <cwillu> but they're completely different protocols
[11:04] <Paul89> i use openvpn GUI, it's plain openvpn but with a gui frontend
[11:04] <cwillu> really, you haven't lived until you've tried to set up a ipsec/pptp vpn :)
[11:04] <cwillu> yep, same here
[11:05] <Paul89> eh what's ipsec/pptp? >.>
[11:05] <Poromenos> my ubuntu setup is displayed on the wrong screen (dual screens), how do i fix that?
[11:05] <cwillu> the windows builtin vpn client, the same as basically every other vpn implementation
[11:05] <Paul89> marty: is it ok to just kill dhclient3 ?
[11:05] <marty> if you kill "dhclient3" at least it shouldn't renew the lease. i just did that on my laptop and if you receive this msg i still have IP working ;-)
[11:05] <cwillu> buggy and incompatible, etc
[11:05] <cwillu> lol @ marty :)
[11:05] <Paul89> marty: ok ty
[11:05] <Paul89> will do
[11:06] <Paul89> cwillu: so openvpn is better?
[11:06] <marty> you can then manually change the IP (if you really have to) using just "ifconfig"
[11:06] <cwillu> Paul89:  it should still work even with it running, but it must have gotten itself confused  (i'm running one device with dhcp and other static)
[11:06] <g0dchild> hi, is there anything i should do to get a decent speed on bittorrent?
[11:06] <Paul89> marty: last time i changed it using ifconfig it didn't have a gateway anymore and i couldn't get on it..
[11:07] <cwillu> Paul89: simplicity is generally good for security;  openvpn is easy to understand end to end, and the networking config is just normal config stuff;  ipsec is extremely invasive
[11:07] <ineti> hi does anybodyy know where how to activate automatic page numebering in openoffice 2.x?
[11:07] <tarzeau> ineti: footer ?
[11:07] <marty> Paul89, sure you have to do it "atomically" - either in the one command or with one script
[11:07] <cwillu> heh, indeed
[11:07] <g0dchild> !azureus
[11:07] <farous> ineti insert page number
[11:07] <GigaClon> g0dchild, make sure your uploading is not capped
[11:07] <Paul89> cwillu: ok, i'll stick with openvpn then.. the hassle of creating certs is worth the effort ^^
[11:07] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:08] <marty> Paul89, one other thing you can add a second virtual interface with the new address
[11:08] <marty> that way you won't break the old one , but can use the new one
[11:08] <Paul89> marty: why would i want to do that?
[11:08] <Paul89> ah
[11:08] <farous> insert>field>pagenumber
[11:08] <psypher246> hey all, still having trouble installing mysql-server on a vanilla install of breezy. changed repo's to allow main restricted universe multiverse backports, ran updates. when i try to install mysql-server I have to make a hcoice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. when i try mysql-server-4.1 i get dependency errors with regards to mysql client. what is wrong?
[11:08] <cwillu> let the dhcp client do its thing with an interface that doesn't matter :)
[11:08] <ineti> farous: nope that isn't the right thing
[11:08] <Poromenos> can anyone help? :(
[11:09] <Paul89> sounds way too complicated.. if it does switch ip's that's just tough luck, port 22 on the old ip is still mapped to another port so i can get on it if it switches back
[11:09] <marty> Paul89, anyway I think you can probably live with what you have - until you can get someone in front of the console
[11:09] <farous> ineti ?
[11:09] <cwillu> Poromenos: try back later;  just repeat the question and if somebody's familiar with it, they'll answer
[11:09] <Poromenos> cwillu: ah, thanks
[11:10] <marty> Paul89, I know your fear - I have had whole networks (Cisco routers and firewalls) in my hands remotely - knowing that if i slip up I chop off my legs
[11:10] <cwillu> Poromenos: sorry I couldn't help :)
[11:10] <Paul89> marty: heh
[11:10] <Poromenos> cwillu: it's ok :) i just need the xorg.conf settings
[11:10] <ineti> insert page number does this only for one page, but i want everythin automaticly numbered
[11:10] <CraiZE> hi
[11:10] <farous> ineti insert it in the footer
[11:10] <psypher246> hey all, still having trouble installing mysql-server on a vanilla install of breezy. changed repo's to allow main restricted universe multiverse backports, ran updates. when i try to install mysql-server I have to make a hcoice between mysql-server-4.1 and 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1. when i try mysql-server-4.1 i get dependency errors with regards to mysql client. what is wrong?
[11:10] <KakiPukul> updates, updates... passwd, login have new security updates...
[11:10] <CraiZE> I wanted to install Ubuntu on my Promise Ultra TX 133 PCI IDE Card (a hdd on it), will i be able to do that?
[11:11] <marty> Paul89, CIsco has a nice feature - "reload 5", which means that if it doesn't hear from me it will restart in 5 minutes - that way you can change a config dynamically and knwo it will come back
[11:11] <Poromenos> my ubuntu setup is displayed on the wrong screen (dual screens), how do i fix that?
[11:11] <Paul89> marty: that's pretty nice, that guy has a Cisco router. i'll ask him to set that up some time
[11:11] <farous> or the header ineti depend on where you want it
[11:12] <KakiPukul> psypher246, please paste the errors the the pastebin, so we can learn about your problem better
[11:12] <marty> Paul89, you could do the same - do "shutdown -r +5" and then do some non-permanent tests, and then if you still have connection do "shutdown -c"  to cancel
[11:12] <psypher246> cool
[11:12] <psypher246> i forgot how do i get to the pastebin again
[11:12] <cwillu> !paste
[11:12] <KakiPukul> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:12] <marty> Paul89, this is always useful if you are working remotely and can afford a reboot if you break it
[11:12] <ineti> farous: i already have footnotes, for the sources that are used
[11:13] <farous> ineti the footer not footnotes
[11:13] <Paul89> marty: i still have to set up all the init-scripts on that box ~_~
[11:13] <marty> Paul89, of course the best option is "out of band" access with say a modem into the console
[11:13] <farous> insert header or footer
[11:13] <ineti> farous: if i enable footer it creates a news footnote placed under my current footnotes
[11:14] <ineti> this doesn't look good and uses lot of space
[11:14] <marty> Paul89, or if you have a nice shiny (insert the vendor I work for) server you would have remote lights out feature :-)
[11:14] <Paul89> lol :p
[11:14] <farous> ineti it is not a footnote it is a footer end of page where you can put your page number. you can insert a header and put it ther if you like also
[11:15] <Paul89> it's just a hobby box
[11:15] <djs_2_6> Morning all.
[11:15] <farous> ineti: though i think it should be the default template with openoffice was somehow dazzelled to see it is not there by default
[11:15] <Paul89> marty: we're using it for the team bitstorm (our LAN-party group) VPN, http development and playing with IRC bots
[11:15] <djs_2_6> Anyone know of any good apps to turn ripped dvds into avis or mpegs?
[11:16] <CraiZE> lol
[11:16] <ineti> farous: ok thx so far
[11:16] <farous> ineti: make me certain now that it was good idea to switch to latex :)
[11:17] <CraiZE> anyone got a Radeon 9700 Pro running in ubuntu
[11:17] <CraiZE> with hardware acceleration
[11:17] <CraiZE> ?
[11:17] <farous> CraiZE: you know about the ati link and fglrx did you try that
[11:17] <CraiZE> not yet
[11:17] <intelikey> anybody good with fixing alsa ?
[11:17] <KakiPukul> dvdrip, djs_2_6, it's a frontend to transcode... have no idea about it... but try if you want to
[11:17] <Paul89> CraiZE: i use nvidia but i think i also saw something about ati binarydriver on the wiki
[11:17] <CraiZE> but i remember not getting anything to work 2 years ago ;P
[11:17] <farous> !tell CraiZE about ati
[11:17] <farous> CraiZE: i have 9600 running fine here
[11:18] <psypher246> cwillu, KakiPukul, it's pasted under psypher246. thanks
[11:18] <intelikey> i have like no sound
[11:18] <djs_2_6> KakiPukul - Does that work for already ripped dvd files?
[11:18] <CraiZE> thanks
[11:18] <Paul89> oh yes, about the sound card, i have a weird problem, i can only use the sound card for the user i'm logged in on "physically"
[11:18] <cwillu> say wha?
[11:18] <Paul89> like, logged in on the box itself, not on ssh
[11:19] <cwillu> (say wha referring to the paste bin above :p)
[11:19] <Paul89> lol
[11:19] <farous> intelikey: i used to play with it but am rusty now. Have been concentrating on real work for a while :)
[11:19] <cwillu> I think there's a group with sound access, anyone know?
[11:19] <farous> intelikey: so what is your problem state it first
[11:19] <intelikey> modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_0
[11:19] <intelikey> modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_service_0_0
[11:20] <intelikey> aumix:  error opening mixer
[11:20] <farous> intelikey: are hyou running dapper
[11:20] <Paul89> i'm trying to install MPD on my home server, so i have music 24:7 :o
[11:20] <intelikey> hoary
[11:20] <KakiPukul> transcode is the backend... you need some encoders for that though, djs_2_6
[11:20] <farous> there is a good howto for hoary on the forums look it up
[11:20] <intelikey> yep good for nothing....
[11:20] <farous> let me check if i have the link for ti
[11:20] <psypher246> cwillu, with regards to mysql
[11:20] <farous> lol so i guess you were there
[11:21] <intelikey> been there, there is not one thing about this kind of error.
[11:21] <KakiPukul> yes... it should works fine... even with ripped DVD's VOBs... djs_2_6
[11:21] <intelikey> also farous  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:22] <farous> intelikey: have no idea sorry and have no brain now too lol
[11:23] <cwillu> psypher246: I know next to nothing about mysql, but on a hunch I'd say try the ubuntu version of it
[11:23] <KakiPukul> you LAMPers
[11:23] <Paul89> psypher246: the mysql apt package didn't work really well for me, i compiled it from source without any problems
[11:24] <Paul89> what's the L for.. -.-'
[11:25] <psypher246> well thats not very impressive?? thats what apt there for. and thats not what the mythtv howto's say. no offence, I know how to compile, but why shoudl i this stuff is supposed to work
[11:25] <Paul89> cwillu: about ovpn, -if i'd manage to bridge the server's eth0 with tap0- how would it handle that? because my subnet here is 192.168.2.* and the vpn would be using 10.8.0.*
[11:25] <intelikey> farous you aint gonna believe this,   i had modprobed snd-ad1816a  fifty times on this thing.   but this time it took.... it seems that running the aumix  without the module loaded made the device node   then loading the driver worked.....     thanks anyway.
[11:25] <intelikey> i've got sound now.
[11:25] <cwillu> when you bridge two or more devices, they end up sharing a single br device for ip's etc
[11:25] <farous> intelikey: you did all the work lol thank you for the information
[11:26] <farous> might be helpful to add it to the forums
[11:26] <farous> a tip
[11:26] <Paul89> psypher246: well you don't have to, you can use apt just as well, just a matter of preferrence i guess. i'd like to have more control over it so i compiled mysql apache and php from source
[11:26] <cwillu> when the bridge is down, they use their configured ip's, etc, but when the bridge is up, the bridge config is used
[11:26] <intelikey> i had fought with that off and on for 6 hours now.
[11:26] <cwillu> the naming is a bit weird :/
[11:26] <Paul89> cwillu: and what is the bridge config? is that configured in ovpn or on the linux box ?
[11:27] <Paul89> on the linux box itself*
[11:27] <intelikey> yeah well i guess someone might have an old isa sound card     like me.    but not likely farous
[11:27] <cwillu> I think I may have confused issues, it's really more of a tap vs tun implementation
[11:27] <cwillu> tap can be used for bridged or routed, tun only for routed
[11:27] <Paul89> yes, i know that
[11:27] <cwillu> the tap device can be used like any other adapter in the system
[11:27] <Paul89> that's why i was having problems with icmp before.. i was using tun instead of tap -.-
[11:28] <cwillu> yep
[11:28] <farous> intelikey: it will never heart and it is already bloated lol :)
[11:28] <Paul89> tap is awesome :D
[11:28] <farous> a small tip will help a poor guy man
[11:28] <cwillu> heh :)
[11:28] <cwillu> it's also slightly less efficient :)
[11:28] <psypher246> paul89 so then whats the things trouble? how do i actually choose the ubuntu package, mysql-server-4.1 is easy but how do you instal the other one from command line?
[11:28] <Paul89> but what are the advantages of tun over tap then?
[11:28] <Paul89> oh
[11:28] <cwillu> <--  :)
[11:28] <cwillu> beat you to it :)
[11:28] <psypher246> btw tap give you bridgeing which allows upd braodcast to travel across vpns
[11:29] <intelikey> now i have x and sound and everything  in ubuntu hoary    on a p1mmx 100 mhz    on a 610m hard drive, dual boot with win95       shoot.....  i'm bad....
[11:29] <farous> like when i put a tip on firefox never thought it will give the thread five stars or trees lol
[11:29] <cwillu> although if you're not using bridging, the difference is slight
[11:29] <Paul89> psypher246: install what other one? what i did was compile mysql 5.something from source, that's all i can say
[11:29] <psypher246> I use tap vpn's for lan games and browsing winsux networks
[11:29] <MistaED> intelikey: what kind of x? xorg?
[11:29] <farous> intelikey: just curious why not use damnsmalllinux it is best suited for old pcs
[11:29] <cwillu> question:  what should the clients be able to access on the network?
[11:30] <Paul89> psypher246: i managed to browse win networks on tun aswell
[11:30] <intelikey> farous i'v got dsl also just not on this box.
[11:30] <Paul89> cwillu: every other client, and preferrably the server aswell
[11:30] <farous> great this distro is amazing in every sence of the word
[11:30] <cwillu> and should things on the network be able to access the clients?
[11:31] <psypher246> tun vpn's are faster as far as I know cos braodcast packets do not go over it, but if you need tap for something specific then u need tap, otherwise tun is fine for most settings. note that setting tun to use udp does not allow braodcasts, only tap allows this
[11:31] <intelikey> MistaED  yeah default hoary,  nothing special except the package list.  i could almost post it in here without getting kicked.
[11:31] <MistaED> i'd like to road-test ubuntu with something like kdrive but keep gnome or kde in there, things like damn small linux or basic WM with nothing else are too flaky around the edges
[11:31] <MistaED> and see what the ram requirements are
[11:31] <psypher246> paul89 is i try install mysql-server i get this error
[11:31] <Paul89> cwillu: currently the vpn server is hosted on my own network, so i'd like to access the vpn without a client if possible
[11:31] <psypher246> ;:
[11:31] <cwillu> psypher246: with the exception that if your not bridging them, then broadcasts aren't getting sent over it anyway
[11:31] <psypher246> Package mysql-server is a virtual package provided by:
[11:31] <psypher246>   mysql-server-4.1 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1
[11:31] <intelikey> i over clocked the mobo so the 100 mhz is at 266 now.  it works pretty good.
[11:32] <psypher246> how do i install the second package on that error
[11:32] <Poromenos> my soundblaster 4 channel card's speaker sound is inverted (back to front), how do i fix that?
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 109.
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 112.
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 112.
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 124.
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in division (/) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 134.
[11:32] <intelikey> Use of uninitialized value in division (/) at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 135.
[11:32] <intelikey> Illegal division by zero at /home/greg/bin/sinfo line 136.
[11:32] <Jhair> ouch
[11:32] <intelikey> wow  not hta.....
[11:32] <MistaED> would anyone know if using a basic gtk2 engine gives speed/ram benefits than to say, a pixmap-induced clearlooks?
[11:32] <psypher246> yeah sure if you didn't bridge the tap device and yr eth device then nothing will go through
[11:32] <Paul89> psypher246: i don't think i can help much with that, i've never successfully used the package
[11:32] <intelikey> i think that was an oooops.
[11:32] <psypher246> wow thats sucks
[11:32] <Nermal> intelikey: maybe don't overclock it ? :)
[11:32] <intelikey> lol
[11:32] <psypher246> thats why i use debian and ubuntu, no compile crap
[11:33] <intelikey> naw it's an error in a script.....
[11:33] <Paul89> psypher246: but my guess is; did you enable multiverse etc..?
[11:33] <Paul89> psypher246: normally i'd use apt aswell, but not for php apache and mysql
[11:33] <psypher246> stuffir, i'm going to treat this things as windows, format re-install. i had none of this crap with my workstation, just installed my-sql no probs
[11:34] <lampshade> If I am going to install a new 686 kernel via apt, do I need to reinstall video drivers?  I don't quite understand how this works.
[11:34] <intelikey> back in i minute.
[11:34] <Jhair> lampshade: no need to install video drivers, video drivers are part of the X server not of the kernel
[11:34] <Poromenos> my soundblaster 4 channel card's speakers are inverted (back to front), how do i fix that?
[11:35] <lampshade> Jhair, really?  I don't have to reinstall if I do a new kernel??
[11:35] <Poromenos> i.e. the rear speakers play instead of the front ones
[11:35] <cwillu> Paul89: if you want everything to just work, and the server isn't already the default gateway on the network, then bridging is the simplest way to make it work;  this means that the clients can even get their ip address from the networks dhcp server
[11:35] <lampshade> I swore you did--or that I might have read that, that's why I'm confused and asking here.  Then Again, I can always revert back to the old kernel if needed I guess huh
[11:35] <Paul89> uh.. put the rear speakers in the front? :p
[11:36] <Paul89> cwillu: but then the entire vpn would be using 192.168.2.* instead of 10.8.0.* ?
[11:36] <Jhair> lampshade: no if the driver has no issues with the new kernel. Can be, that some interface in the kernel changes and the driver relies on functionality that is not the same in the new kernel anymore. This is rather rare
[11:36] <Poromenos> Paul89: haha, thanks :P
[11:36] <Healot> lampers rule!
[11:36] <Poromenos> found it though :p
[11:36] <g0dchild> is there a way to enable multiple instances of apt-get/synaptic?
[11:36] <Whatsisname> no
[11:37] <Whatsisname> and it wouldn't be a good idea to allow it
[11:37] <lampshade> Jhair, cool, thank you.  Gonna try it out,  worse case I can revert back to the old kernel on my systerm
[11:37] <g0dchild> aw, shoot.
[11:37] <Poromenos> so, dual screen setup, anyone?
[11:37] <Paul89> aarhg noo
[11:37] <cwillu> Paul89: if it's bridged, the vpn is the same as the network;  any client that connects is connecting straight into the switch in the network by a really long cord
[11:37] <psypher246> paul89 i got a great howto for what you want, send me yr email and I will mail it now
[11:37] <Paul89> i've tried dual screen only once with gnome and i broke X because i forgot to backup xorg.conf.. i know, stupid mistake
[11:37] <g0dchild> Whatsisname, yeah- thats why i always say gentoo portage style emerge is a bit better- ok, lets hope i dont spark a distro war- it wasnt intended
[11:38] <Paul89> psypher246: kamikazesponge@hotmail.com
[11:38] <Whatsisname> why should you need multiple instances of apt-get at the same time
[11:38] <Poromenos> Paul89: my dual screen setup has the same problem as my speakers, it's on the wrong screen :p
[11:38] <Whatsisname> er
[11:38] <Whatsisname> not why should, why would
[11:38] <Paul89> Poromenos: exchange your screens :P
[11:38] <Poromenos> haha
[11:38] <Poromenos> you're great at advice :p
[11:38] <Ciemak> hello
[11:38] <Paul89> Poromenos: but you managed to get dual screen to work?
[11:38] <Paul89> i know :p
[11:38] <Healot> anyways, apt locks the sources files...
[11:38] <Poromenos> well, it was working out of the box
[11:38] <Poromenos> actually only one screen works
[11:38] <Poromenos> the wrong one
[11:38] <cwillu> Paul89:  if you really really want them to have distinct ip subnets, you either need to set up routing (which can be done with tun or tap, although win32 has some issues with tun), or using nat
[11:38] <Whatsisname> yeah, its so that the dependencies properly line up
[11:39] <Poromenos> i just want to switch it, not get dualscreen to work
[11:39] <psypher246> dpaul89, done
[11:39] <Whatsisname> otherwise one apt-get instance could undermine the efforts of the other
[11:39] <Paul89> cwillu: ok, that sounds complicated.. i think i'll just use a client on every pc then :p
[11:39] <cwillu> ?
[11:39] <Paul89> vpn client
[11:39] <cwillu> ??
[11:39] <Ciemak> i've got 2 problems: first is a amule: ciemak@Laptop:~$ amule
[11:39] <Ciemak> This binary requires you to use the flag --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me and only if you're very sure of it.
[11:39] <cwillu> you already need to
[11:39] <cwillu> every client connecting to the vpn needs, um, a client :)
[11:39] <Ciemak> what should I do?
[11:40] <Jhair>  --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me? WTF
[11:40] <cwillu> this is talking about how the server connects those clients to anything else
[11:40] <g0dchild> Whatsisname, - suppose i wanted to install something while another is being downloaded...given the crappy download speeds, couldnt a guy wish if apt-get supported multiple instances? heh.
[11:40] <cwillu> if they only need to talk to each other and the server, then you're done, right now
[11:40] <Healot> wtf... chuck norris
[11:40] <Paul89> yes, but i said, the server is already on my lan, so if i would bridge tap0 and eth0 on the box my entire lan would be on the vpn.. right?
[11:40] <g0dchild> i aint complaining though- i am sure there's a very good reason for it though
[11:40] <lampshade> do the pentium m's use SMP at all?  I wanna say no, but I'm not quite sure.  (Looking to know if I should use just the 686 kernel or the 686-smp kernel)
[11:40] <cwillu> if they need to talk to anything else on that network, you have to decide how it should connect;
[11:40] <cwillu> yes, that's correct
[11:41] <psypher246> paul89, unless you REALLY wanna run openvpn on ubuntu as a server, just use ipcop with the zerina addon, AMAZING, so easy and so stable
[11:41] <Paul89> so that's why i said i'd just install a vpn client on every pc in my lan
[11:41] <Poromenos> how do i make ubuntu recognize a new screen?
[11:41] <cwillu> ahh, okay
[11:41] <Whatsisname> g0dchild, i'm pretty sure if all you do is download, it won't lock the file
[11:41] <Whatsisname> if you use the "only download flag"
[11:41] <Paul89> psypher246: yes, i really want to
[11:41] <Whatsisname> you may have to try it out
[11:41] <Whatsisname> err, i suppose I could try it out too lol
[11:41] <Paul89> Poromenos: i think i read something about that in the wiki
[11:41] <Paul89> !tell Poromenos about dual screen
[11:41] <psypher246> then u gonna need a pretty big server to encrypt many pc's on a lan
[11:41] <Whatsisname> you know of two big packages off the top of your head
[11:41] <Poromenos> Paul89: aha, i'll look, thanks
[11:41] <Ciemak> i find this flag in help:   -onlychucknorriswouldstopme, --only-chuck-norris-would-stop-me        Runs aMule scary SVN development version at your own risk.
[11:42] <Paul89> !tell Poromenos about dualscreen
[11:42] <cwillu> psypher246: no bigger than you'd need for ipcop
[11:42] <Ciemak> but amule doesn't want to run in normal mode
[11:42] <Poromenos> Paul89: it's not doing anything
[11:42] <Paul89> psypher246: it'll work
[11:42] <psypher246> or get one of the new via mini-itx boards as yr vpn server that has the builtin hardware aes encryption function, a 1 ghz cpu with this outclocks and current p4 or amd
[11:42] <cwillu> and unless you've got a 100mb upload, even a 400mhz will handle the encryption
[11:43] <psypher246> yeaH I KNOW, EITHER WAY U NEED A SERVER THAT CAN DO A LOT OF ENCRYPTING
[11:43] <cwillu> i.e., a linksys home router can encrypt fast enough to saturate a mb
[11:43] <Paul89> well then it won't be a problem, it is 400 mhz
[11:43] <Paul89> 450 actually
[11:43] <cwillu> lol  :)
[11:43] <psypher246> sorry caps off now
[11:43] <cwillu> that's what I'm running in two of the installations
[11:43] <Agent_bob> well i seem to have hosed it again....
[11:43] <cwillu> 400mhz handles about 7mbit
[11:43] <psycho_oreos> Sun Sparc T natively supports encrypting on the CPU :)
[11:43] <Agent_bob> my new prompt is       tty24 [I have no name!$~] 
[11:43] <Poromenos> cwillu: really? aes is quite fast
[11:43] <Paul89> cwillu: and the vpn can only handle 1 mbit :p
[11:43] <psypher246> back in the openswan days it was like 500mhz per 10mb/s conection, dunno so much for openvpn
[11:43] <lampshade> what's the difference between linux-image-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 ??
[11:44] <Healot> and that VIA's CPU...
[11:44] <Paul89> well.. 1 mbit upstream, 30 downstream but that won't make a big difference
[11:44] <Agent_bob> tty24 [I have no name!$~]  whoami
[11:44] <Agent_bob> whoami: cannot find username for UID 1000
[11:44] <spiritz> lampshade: linux-image-686 is a meta package
[11:44] <psypher246> so yeah if you want many clients on a lan to connect to a file server you gonna need more than 400mhz
[11:44] <Whatsisname> lampshade, not sure, i'd go with linux-image-2.6.1blah personally
[11:44] <psypher246> oh i thought u want your whole lan vpn'd
[11:44] <Healot> tried to break the encryption once in some exhibition... only got 1 character in 3.5 hours
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> lampshade: linux-image-686 is a more generic name targeted at the latest linux-iamge-686 available in the repos. It is more or less the same as the other one however its a more generic naming convention
[11:45] <Agent_bob> what is causing that ?   not being able to read /etc/groups  ?
[11:45] <Paul89> my whole lan consists of 4 pcs psypher246..
[11:45] <lampshade> psycho_oreos, kk, thank you
[11:45] <psypher246> COOOOl!
[11:45] <Poromenos> can anyone tell me the xorg.conf line for an LG 19" TFT monitor?
[11:45] <psypher246> sorry
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> err generic naming.. meta package is the more correct words.. as spiritz mentioned
[11:45] <psypher246> ;)
[11:45] <Paul89> but i have to go now, or im going to be late for school
[11:45] <psypher246> then yeah go 4 it
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> s/words/way
[11:45] <Frogzoo> !tell Poromenos about xorg
[11:45] <Whatsisname> Agent_bob, possibly that or unable to read /etc/passwd
[11:45] <psypher246> OPENVPN ROCKS!!!
[11:45] <bungle> !repos
[11:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:45] <Healot> Poromenos, do you know the scanline vert and horz?
[11:46] <Paul89> cwillu, do you have msnim or something ?
[11:46] <Whatsisname> either that or a uid/name mismatch
[11:46] <Agent_bob> anybody ever break bash before ?
[11:46] <cwillu> cwillu@sasktel.net
[11:46] <Paul89> ty
[11:46] <Whatsisname> Agent_bob, what do you mean by bash
[11:46] <Agent_bob> i'm a nobody now.......
[11:46] <Whatsisname> *break
[11:46] <Agent_bob> whoami: cannot find username for UID 1000
[11:46] <Whatsisname> thats not bash's proble
[11:46] <Whatsisname> *problem
[11:46] <Whatsisname> anyways
[11:46] <Frogzoo> Agent_bob: /etc/passwd lose your user?
[11:46] <Paul89> anyway, i'm off to school now or i'll be in trouble
[11:46] <Whatsisname> check your /etc/passwd, make sure there isnt a username / uid mismatch
[11:47] <Paul89> bye
[11:47] <Whatsisname> alrighty later
[11:47] <cwillu> later
[11:47] <Healot> Agent_bob, you changed the UID before?
[11:47] <Agent_bob> does passwd have to be readable ?
[11:47] <Whatsisname> yeah
[11:47] <Whatsisname> i think
[11:47] <Whatsisname> yes
[11:48] <Frogzoo>  ls -l /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Whatsisname> it doesnt contain any passwords or anything so it should be readable by all
[11:48] <Frogzoo> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Frogzoo>  ls -l /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Frogzoo> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Whatsisname> writable only by root
[11:48] <Healot> to the root and root process only...
[11:48] <Agent_bob> yeah that's it.... so /etc passwd has to be world readable.....   that don't seem right.
[11:48] <Frogzoo> ls -l /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Frogzoo> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1457 2006-02-03 08:53 /etc/passwd
[11:48] <Whatsisname> no, not to the root process only
[11:48] <Whatsisname> thats why whoami is failing
[11:49] <Whatsisname> whoami is running under a user's privledges, and reading passwd is failing
[11:49] <Frogzoo> Agent_bob: before you're logged in - you're a nobody, but still need to be able to read passwd to login...
[11:49] <MistaED> poromenos: what's the model no. of the LG monitor?
[11:49] <Whatsisname> /etc/passwd should be readable and writable by root, and readable by the shadow user
[11:49] <Poromenos> Healot: i don't
[11:49] <Agent_bob> yeah i fixed it.  but that don't seem right.    world readable  /etc/passwd and /etc/groups files....
[11:49] <Whatsisname> Agent_bob, thats fine
[11:49] <Poromenos> MistaED: L1915s
[11:49] <beeswax> where kan i get sum news bout dapper?
[11:49] <Whatsisname> passwords are stored in /etc/shadow
[11:49] <g0dchild> !kopete
[11:49] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[11:49] <Poromenos> what is the number of the second screen? 1:0:1?
[11:49] <ciro> hi all
[11:49] <Whatsisname> stored encrpyted anyway
[11:50] <beeswax> !dapper
[11:50] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:50] <ciro> im using amule 2.1.0 but my kad is always firewalled. who can help me?
[11:50] <Agent_bob> encripted and in another file not world readable.
[11:50] <Agent_bob> shadow
[11:50] <Frogzoo> beeswax: btw - looks like the 6 week slip is going to happen
[11:50] <Whatsisname> tats what I said, /etc/shadow lol
[11:50] <MistaED> poromenos: horiz = 30-63KHz, vert = 56-75
[11:50] <Agent_bob> ok brb
[11:50] <MistaED> *Hz
[11:51] <Poromenos> MistaED: thanks a lot
[11:51] <Poromenos> can i restart X without stopping my apt-getting?
[11:51] <MistaED> np, ubuntu needs something like SaX2 (in suse atm)
[11:51] <intelikey> back
[11:51] <intelikey> yep fixed.
[11:51] <Frogzoo> Poromenos: don't think so
[11:51] <Poromenos> Frogzoo: ah, thanks
[11:51] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 263 Mhz | Mem usage: 14.9/92.4 MB (16%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%) | Uptime: 4 hrs 7 mins 36 secs
[11:51] <MistaED> umm, i'm sure there's a way to send the pid of apt-get to something which isn't dependent on X
[11:52] <Whatsisname> Poromenos, yes
[11:52] <MistaED> nfi how though
[11:52] <Whatsisname> just fork the apt-get process
[11:52] <Whatsisname> although if it requires your intervention you're screwed
[11:52] <Whatsisname> unless you use it in screen or something
[11:52] <Poromenos> Whatsisname: hmm, yeah
[11:52] <Poromenos> well, i'll wait
[11:52] <intelikey> not bad for a modern linux with no major changes from the default eeh
[11:52] <Frogzoo> Whatsisname: but once it's running... otherwise just nohup would be cool
[11:52] <Poromenos> by the way, can i get dpkg-reconfigure to autodetect the OTHER screen settings? what number is the second screen?
[11:53] <Whatsisname> i don't think so
[11:53] <intelikey> distro unknown ????     i guess it can't read the release file
[11:53] <g0dchild> do i need to anyth out of the ordinary to sign into msn network using kopete?
[11:53] <Poromenos> it's asking me for a bus and it has PCI:1:0:0
[11:53] <Whatsisname> for what
[11:53] <Whatsisname> whats asking you for a bus
[11:54] <intelikey> PCI:1:0:14:0  ?
[11:54] <Whatsisname> is it asking you to specify a video card or something
[11:55] <Healot> no, g0dchild
[11:55] <Poromenos> to autodetect my screen, i think
[11:55] <Whatsisname> well
[11:55] <g0dchild> :(
[11:55] <Whatsisname> in a terminal run
[11:55] <Poromenos> but yeah, it doesn't make much sense that the screen would be in the PCI bus
[11:55] <Whatsisname> lspci -X
[11:55] <Whatsisname> and it will spit out PCI devices with identifiers useful for X configurations
[11:55] <Healot> Poromenos, read the manual of that monitor?
[11:55] <intelikey> PCI:0:14:0  <--- that's my pci vidio card
[11:56] <g0dchild> it tries signing in for a while and then goes dead after a while- just to make sure, i tried signing in with gaim- it worked there
[11:56] <Poromenos> Whatsisname: yeah, the vidcard is there
[11:56] <Poromenos> i'm just trying to get it to autodetect the other screen
[11:56] <intelikey> sorry i got the leading 1: in the first post.
[11:56] <Healot> then keep using gaim, I think
[11:56] <Poromenos> i might just unplug the second screen and see if it works
[11:56] <intelikey> agp uses pci also iirc
[11:57] <Poromenos> intelikey: yeah, my card is agp
[11:57] <Healot> my card is made from paper
[11:57] <intelikey> PCI:0:16:0  ?    or something like that ?
[11:58] <bungle> just installed badger 5.1 image is a 386 and should be 686 how can i change it?
[11:58] <Healot> PCI:1:0:0 - for most AGP...
[11:58] <Shed> How can I change which application is launched by GNOME's "Launch music player" keyboard shortcut?
[11:59] <RockClimber> is it possible to install the test of dapper drake and then upgrade to the release version using whatever the update tool is (I'm a fedora user considering ubuntu for 1 machine, just got the 5.10 live cds and I like how polished it looks).
[11:59] <Healot> bungle, you need to dl a different kernel online...
[11:59] <bungle> how healot? can i use apt -get?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> RockClimber: definite maybe - you're running a test setup - so the upgrade _could_ fail
[11:59] <intelikey> ah it may also depend on which agp you have  2x 4x 8x .......
[12:00] <Healot> yes... checkout http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for latest kernel packages
[12:00] <bungle> cheers Healot
[12:00] <Whatsisname> intelikey, did you ever get that thing with your keyboard shortcuts working
[12:00] <RockClimber> Frogzoo, I gues what I'm asking is *how much* has been frozen. In fedora upgrading 1 version to the next isn't the recommended route, but upgrading from the final RC is easier.
[12:00] <Whatsisname> RockClimber, most likely yes
[12:00] <pbr> Every time I run update-manager I'm presented with a dialogue box: [Information] 
[12:00] <pbr> It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[12:00] <pbr> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[12:00] <pbr> The following packages are not upgraded:
[12:00] <pbr>   unison
[12:00] <intelikey> Whatsisname which thing ?
[12:00] <intelikey> was that me ?
[12:00] <Whatsisname> i thought so
[12:01] <Whatsisname> maybe not lol
[12:01] <RockClimber> Whatsisname, thanks I'll give it a whirl. Are there any openoffice beta 64bit packages built for ubuntu?
[12:01] <intelikey> i was trying to get twm to auto load  links2 when i login into x
[12:01] <Whatsisname> RockClimber, what beta version?
[12:01] <ron_> what is the name of the partition app?
[12:01] <pbr> apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do anything. I've tried deleting the contents of /var/cache/apt, /var/lib/dpkg/available, removing unison and reinstalling it, but I can't get rid of the message.
[12:02] <Whatsisname> i wouldn't think so, I don't know of any major "beta" version
[12:02] <intelikey> i don't remember working on keys tho Whatsisname
[12:02] <Whatsisname> ron_, could be parted, gparted, qtparted
[12:02] <ron_> ty
[12:02] <pbr> Any suggestions for how to work out why it is complaining about upgrading unison?
[12:02] <Whatsisname> intelikey, i thought you encountered some 0x08B or something in a keyboard shortcut dialog, forget about it I guess
[12:02] <RockClimber> There is a 64bit build of 2.0.2 floating around, I found some rpms but my 64bit machine isn't suitable for playing with and non of the fedora users I've spoken too have tried it. Wondered if any ubuntu people had tried
[12:02] <Frogzoo> pbr: check your /etc/apt/sources.list for hoary repos?
[12:03] <intelikey> Whatsisname wasn't me.
[12:03] <pbr> "grep hoary /etc/apt/sources.list" retruns nothing (ie hoary isn't mentioned in my sources.list)
[12:03] <Healot> 
[12:04] <Whatsisname> RockClimber, I only see 1.9.129 in the apt repository for 32 bit, its likely the same for 64
[12:04] <klfd4> when booting up with a custom kernel, i get insmod failures right at the start, but i cant find the messages in dmesg.. my /etc/modules file has none of the modules its trying to insert there.. any place else modules are listed to be loaded?
[12:05] <Nermal> klfd4: in the initrd ?
[12:05] <Frogzoo> Whatsisname: there is a test 2.0.1breezy
[12:05] <klfd4> hmm, let me check
[12:05] <Jhair> Healot: what does  mean
[12:05] <pbr> Frogzoo: what do you mean by "repos"?
[12:05] <Whatsisname> Frogzoo, whats the package name?
[12:05] <Frogzoo> pbr: pastebing /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !ooo2
[12:06] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[12:06] <Healot> can you see that? Utada Hikaru btw... just testing this SCIM-UIM thing
[12:06] <Whatsisname> oh
[12:06] <Whatsisname> i was only looking in the normal apt list
[12:07] <pbr> grep -Ev '^(#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:07] <pbr> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[12:07] <pbr> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[12:07] <pbr>  deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[12:07] <pbr> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[12:07] <pbr>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:08] <Healot> you!
[12:08] <Healot> use pastebin
[12:08] <Jhair> Healot: yes, Emacs is great for that
[12:08] <anakronisme> 'ello. i have a non-specific question i was hoping to get answered: does anyone know how to get emacs to automatically indent when you press enter? i've read up on it, but i cant seem to find it
[12:08] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 24.8/92.4 MB (27%)
[12:09] <jnoon> anyone know how to do this... in a bash script run by root, i want to run a command but as another user..?
[12:09] <Jhair> anakronisme: electric indentation
[12:09] <Jhair> anakronisme: Electric C section in the Emacs manual
[12:09] <liable> i think an op seriously needs to add DO NOT PASTE IN THE CHANNEL to the topic...
[12:09] <ndlovu> nate_, thanks for the suggestions earlier - in the end I couldn't find any better way than testing settings with hdparm -tT
[12:09] <intelikey> running x and a web browser     no swap.   pretty light eeh ?
[12:09] <anakronisme> jhair: i shall investigate, thank you.
[12:09] <klfd4> Nermal, how do i view the initrd file? or should i just edit it out from grub/menu.lst?
[12:10] <Whatsisname> jnoon, i'm sure there is a way let me give a quick check
[12:10] <Nermal> ermm... I thought there was a file somewhere that told mkinitrd what modules to put in the initrd image
[12:10] <Nermal> but I can't find it :|
[12:10] <klfd4> how about log-files? is there a boot-up log? besides dmesg
[12:10] <jnoon> Whatsisname, sweet thanks... its for a background process script so i cant do password input etc
[12:11] <Nermal> there is /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:11] <klfd4> its all commented out there
[12:11] <klfd4> or, its just comments :)
[12:11] <Whatsisname> jdoon, use su
[12:11] <Nermal> have you tried running mkinitrd for your current kernel ?
[12:12] <Whatsisname> you can pass a parameter it that will have it execute a commad
[12:12] <jnoon> Whatsisname,  ok ill try that out
[12:13] <Frogzoo> pbr: no problems there...
[12:13] <klfd4> i just followed a howto i found on ubuntuforums :) think it was make-kpkg --initrd blabla
 Nermal, how do i view the initrd file? or should i just edit it out from grub/menu.lst? <--- unless you build a kernel with fs support for your / file system  you MUST use initrd to boot.
[12:14] <klfd4> then i dont need initrd then \? since i built ext3 into the kernel
[12:14] <nate-> wow, Nermal
[12:14] <nate-> haven't seen you in forever, but I don't remember my name when i knew you
[12:14] <marlun> What package do I need to be able to compile java code?
[12:15] <Healot> sun' jdk + make-jpkg
[12:15] <intelikey> klfd4 until ubuntu left ext2 out of the default kernels  i never used an initrd.
[12:15] <Healot> or try the jdk from blackdown (available in universe section)
[12:15] <marlun> Healot: That was to me?
[12:15] <marlun> ok
[12:15] <Nermal> klfd4: just out of interest - why do you need a custom kernel ?
[12:15] <pbr> A while back I installed unison from debian (before I discovered the unison2.9.1 packages in ubuntu) so I could sync with a debian box. I've since removed that package, but update-manager is still complaining.
[12:15] <klfd4> k. maybe thats not my problem. when i boot up with the custom kernel, i get insmod-failures which doesnt show in dmesg
[12:16] <Nermal> klfd4: ran depmod -a
[12:16] <Nermal> ?
[12:16] <klfd4> trying to load modules which doesnt exist
[12:16] <klfd4> i'll try that
[12:16] <anakronisme> jhair: the electric indentation is proving quite the challenge :)
[12:16] <Frogzoo> pbr: dpkg --purge unison    & try again mebbe
[12:17] <ubushine> hey folks, anyone have enlightenment installed?
[12:17] <klfd4> Nermal, need it for sound to work..
[12:17] <Nermal> klfd4: ah..
[12:17] <Healot> marlun, anyways... the version of Blackdown jdk is 1.4, and the latest from Sun is 1.5 update 6
[12:17] <Nermal> tried just booting with pci=noacpi noapic ?
[12:17] <ndlovu> does anyone know how smartd works? I've got it running, but I can't seem to find any output that it generates... (I've used smartctl before though)
[12:17] <klfd4> tried everything on the forums with the default kernel
[12:17] <Nermal> ndlovu: it probably outputs to syslogh
[12:17] <marlun> Healot: The sun jdk is not available in any repository?
[12:17] <Healot> ubushine, I am enlightened by GNOME 2 :)
[12:18] <klfd4> Nermal, i dont really have any problems with the new kernel, its just that the error-messages on the start are fugly :)
[12:18] <Nermal> klfd4: ah.
[12:18] <Healot> no... marlun
[12:18] <ubushine> funny
[12:18] <Healot> !javadebs
[12:18] <Nermal> klfd4: close your eyes when you start the os :)
[12:18] <ubushine> anyone -- no enlightenment users?
[12:18] <klfd4> heh
[12:18] <Nermal> ubushine: in #e ?
[12:19] <ndlovu> Nermal: thanks, I see it there... so syslog is different from /var/log/messages?
[12:19] <Nermal> ndlovu: erm.. I think so
[12:19] <Healot> we use metacity+gnome 2... here... or maybe not
[12:19] <klfd4> what file logs the startup process?
[12:19] <ubushine> i tried. no one there
[12:19] <webex> can aonyone explain the use of the file /etc/nsswitch.conf or give me a link to where i can read about it?
[12:20] <Healot> syslogd is the daemon... that's file... /var/log/messages
[12:20] <klfd4> thanks
[12:20] <Healot> man nsswitch.conf?
[12:20] <Nermal> webex: it tells the system what resources to use to resolve names
[12:20] <Nermal> usually tells systems to look in /etc/hosts first (ie: files) then use things like NIS and DNS
[12:21] <webex> Healot, oh didnt know there was a man page for it, thanks
[12:21] <Healot> there is :)
[12:21] <pbr> I've tried --purge, but it didn't help. I'll try it again...   Does update-manager have a separate list of packages? apt-get upgrade has no mention on unison.
[12:21] <webex> Nermal, ok thanks
[12:21] <Nermal> pbr: tried apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:22] <Healot> yay, new colonel (kernel)
[12:22] <Nermal> mine exploded last night after running out of space on /boot ;)
[12:22] <Healot> I love GNU/Linux, because there is always a man to rely on :)
[12:23] <Nermal> I still have a 40mb /boot partition from the good 'ol redhat 5.1 days :)
[12:23] <Healot> that's way too OLD
[12:23] <Nermal> nah.. we just didn't have 4mb + initrd images then :)
[12:24] <intelikey> ok this is a ubuntu linux advertisement.     i've got 5 consoles logged in + X  xdm and one user  running a graphic web browser (links2)  an irc client (bitchx)   a sound mixer (aumix)   xterm session     and check this memory usage.    Mem usage: 26.5/92.4 MB (29%)   <-- that's right.  for all you folks with 2g+ ram  i've got less than 100m  and no swap.   :)
[12:24] <intelikey> playing songs,   did i mention that
[12:24] <intelikey> sounds great   looks great
[12:24] <Nermal> intelikey: splendid.. now fire up quake4-demo
[12:24] <klfd4> Nermal, commenting out initrd in grub/menu.lst worked :) no more insmod errors  !
[12:24] <Healot> monolithic kernels are the pain the behind...
[12:25] <intelikey> Nermal not a gamer actually.
[12:26] <pbr> Nothing from "apt-get dist-upgrade". "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[12:26] <intelikey> hdd is pretty full   but it is less than one gig.
[12:26] <intelikey> Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%)
[12:27] <snowblink> pbr, unison is in universe on 5.10
[12:28] <intelikey> did i mention this box came to it's origenal owner with windows 95 pre installed....   and still has it     lol
[12:29] <intelikey> ok i'm finished bragging.....
[12:30] <Zero_Day> awww shucks i missed the braggong
[12:30] <anakronisme> so, you're bragging about ubuntu to ubuntu-users?
[12:30] <Zero_Day> bragging*
[12:30] <anakronisme> semms superfluous
[12:30] <elkbuntu> intelikey, write a howto for the forums or put a page up somewhere
[12:30] <anakronisme> semms, yes
[12:30] <anakronisme> not seems.
[12:30] <pbr> If I run "dpkg --purge unison" the update-manager message about it goes away. After running "aptitude install unison" the update-manager message comes back.
[12:31] <Stargazers> Hi. Have anyone of you made bash scripts?
[12:31] <snowblink> pbr, apt-cache search unison
[12:31] <pbr> (Where dpkg --purge removes unison, and aptitue installs it again)
[12:31] <intelikey> elkbuntu i couldn't begin to write a howto....    but i've found so nice pictures......   google images    PPMM    :)
[12:31] <snowblink> pbr, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <snowblink> pbr, do you have universe repos?
[12:32] <Frogzoo> pbr: mebbe 'sudo dpkg --purge unison unison-gtk' & try again?
[12:32] <intelikey> hmmm oooops they are not all G rated tho.
[12:33] <pbr> I had to do "dpkg --purge unison-gtk" before "dpkg --purge unison" would work.
[12:33] <Zero_Day> at least this room is active, i hate my distros room
[12:33] <nacho> llegu...
[12:33] <pbr> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe + security universe
[12:33] <Stargazers> How I can wget files from some server to "blah_from_variable-filenameinserver.jpg"? I mean that I have $filename array where is 100 filenames seperating by spaces and I'd like to wget all files from some server and use filenames which is defined on $filename variable? How I can do that, cause wget -O - $URL > $filename gives "Ambiguos error"?
[12:34] <Zero_Day> i woulda just told ya intelikey
[12:34] <intelikey> what is your distor Zero_Day    your version info doesn't say
[12:34] <Frogzoo> Stargazers: man wget - check -i option
[12:34] <Stargazers> Ok, have to look
[12:35] <intelikey> ah ok
[12:35] <pbr> apt-cache serach unison comes up with: tra, unison, unison-gtk, unison2.9.1, & unison2.9.1-gtk.
[12:35] <Zero_Day> i have ubuntu here but its a fileserver for the LAN
[12:36] <snowblink> pbr, sudo apt-get remove unison
[12:36] <pbr> snowblink: My /etc/apt/sources.list can be found at http://pastebin.com/601095
[12:36] <Darky> i have to change HZ screen how i do this?
[12:36] <nate_> hmm, is apt-cache search the equivalant of searching in synaptic?
[12:37] <intelikey> well this is the only ubuntu box i have...   and this is the first time i got all the kinks out of it.    so i might let it stay more than two days this time.
[12:37] <Darky> can any one give me guide?
[12:37] <pbr> snowblink: is "apt-get remove unison" significantly different to removing the package with "dpkg --purge unison"?
[12:37] <Zero_Day> yes ubuntu is nice, i like debian based systems
[12:37] <Darky> i have to change HZ screen how i do this?
[12:37] <Darky> can any one give me guide?
[12:38] <Darky> i have to change HZ screen how i do this?
[12:38] <Darky> can any one give me guide?
[12:39] <snowblink> pbr, um I think so. Apt is dealing with apt, whereas dpkg is dealing with packages...
[12:39] <GnarusLeo> Anone using a HP Pavilion laptop? Having some issues with screen flickering on using fglrx drivers ... works great with ati-driver (but no 3d acc :( ... I can start gnome, no errors, but the screen just flickers alot
[12:39] <intelikey> Darky    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and answer all questions correctly.      "do not choose 'simple'"  when asked about rezelution.
[12:39] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: I do use a zv6000 Pavilion
[12:39] <snowblink> pbr, by doing apt-get remove you are telling apt that you don't want it anymore
[12:39] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, have you fglrx drivers?
[12:39] <eubenesa> hey guys
[12:39] <snowblink> pbr, I don't know if dpkg does that.
[12:39] <pbr> snowblink: using apt-get to remove unison works the same as dpkg for this example. Remove package, error message goes away. Reinstall package, error message comes back
[12:40] <snowblink> pbr, what are you trying to do?
[12:40] <Zero_Day> ty intelkey i dont use a GUI on ubuntu so i couldnt remember to tell him lol
[12:40] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: sometimes it flickers, when I do ALT+F3, but it's rare
[12:40] <sohologic> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: never flickers under X though
[12:40] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, but you use flgrx drivers, or the ati drivers?
[12:40] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: yes, I use the propietary drivers
[12:41] <pbr> snowblink: when I run update-manager I get a dialogue box with "It is not possible to upgrade all packages. ... The following packages are not upgraded: unison"
[12:41] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, and its a WXGA with radeon 9000? If so, you think I could have a look at your xorg.conf file?
[12:41] <GnarusLeo> That would be great
[12:41] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: it's another card radeon 200M
[12:41] <Zero_Day> oops
[12:41] <pbr> snowblink: I'd like to know what the message keeps on appearing, and how to get rid of it.
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, I see .. I have R250
[12:42] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: does it flicker under X in your case?
[12:42] <Nameeater> hmm, my X just died and hardlocked
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, When I bott with flrx drivers  the screen goes crazy ... flcikers alot and its almost impossible to see anything ... though 3d acc works and all .. its probably monitor or screen settings
[12:43] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: yes can be. 3D works for me too but only with the propietary drivers
[12:44] <GnarusLeo> exacly .. but you have a widescreen tft right?
[12:44] <GnarusLeo> Jhair,
[12:44] <snowblink> pbr, have you ever used backports?
[12:44] <snowblink> pbr, apt-cache show unison
[12:44] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, and what does alt-f3 do? :)
[12:45] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: yes TFT WXGA (1280x800)
[12:45] <pbr> Not on this box. I did manually install unison from debian a long time ago. unison has since been purged  several times.
[12:45] <GnarusLeo> I fell out, sorry ..
[12:45] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: yes TFT WXGA (1280x800)
[12:46] <snowblink> pbr, what do you mean manually installed unison from debian?
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, exacly what I want to use ... you think I can get a copy of your xorg.conf? Maybe at pastebin?
[12:46] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: under X, ALT-f3 switches to a console (text based terminal)
[12:46] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: I am sorry but I am now at work and my laptop is at home :(
[12:46] <snowblink> pbr, what did you do? change apt sources? downloaded the deb? recompiled the debian package?
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, oh .. you mean alt - ctrl - f3 ...
[12:46] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: of course! silly me, that was what I meant
[12:47] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, ok :) Maybe Ill catch you another time .. do you remember how you installed the drivers btw?
[12:47] <pbr> snowblink: Download and install the debian stable unison package (so I could sync between a ubuntu box and debian box with the same version before I discovered the unison2.9.1 packages).
[12:48] <Jhair> GnarusLeo: I transformed the .rpm to .deb with alien and installed the .deb with dpkg
[12:48] <Dr3as> i had big problems with getting the nivida driver to work on my system (pci-e 7800gt dual dvi), i just want to say i found a solution :D adding ignoredevices in xorg.conf
[12:48] <pbr> snowblink: apt-cache show unison: Section: universe/net Version: 2.10.2-2build1, any other details you would like?
[12:48] <GnarusLeo> Jhair, ty .. Ill try that
[12:48] <intelikey> ATTENTION   using pastebin for transfering configuration files,  you will get markup   and need to run  dos2unix file newfile
[12:48] <intelikey> or use an editor and remove the markup
[12:49] <snowblink> pbr, ah so you directly installed a debian package onto ubuntu...
[12:49] <omnia> hola alguien sabe como se instala un modem adsl por usb
[12:50] <Jhair> omnia: WHAT!?
[12:50] <Jhair> omnia: go to ubuntu-es
[12:50] <snowblink> !es
[12:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:50] <warpzone> pardon, can somebody help me with a quick SSH problem? or is there a better channel to ask in?
[12:51] <omnia> #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <pbr> snowblink yes, though I've since purged the package. Something is remembering, but I can't work out where.
[12:51] <Jhair> warpzone: just ask
[12:51] <snowblink> pbr, try cleaning apt
[12:52] <jnoon> whats up with killall -9 not getting everything? i have to run it a couple times for it to work
[12:52] <warpzone> I'm trying to connect to myself via SSH, but I get "connection refused". I have port 22 open, and can connect to myself using the internal network address.
[12:52] <pbr> snowblink "apt-get clean"? which just deletes files from /var/cache/apt/archives?
[12:53] <briceg> hello everybody!
[12:53] <intelikey> jnoon killall -9   will only kill   -9 and it's sub processes       is  -9 running on your system ?
[12:53] <pbr> snowblink I've tried dpkg --purge unison; rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*; aptitude install unison. But that didn't help.
[12:53] <briceg> Does someone use grdesktop or rdesktop ?
[12:53] <Jhair> jnoon: kill -9 doesn't work for zombie processes
[12:53] <intelikey> you are thinking of   kill -9 <pid>
[12:53] <test> Does anyone know how I can set some options for the snd_emu10k1 module in Ubuntu? Since there are no /etc/modprobe.conf I have no idea
[12:54] <intelikey> i like   sudo kill -9 -1
[12:54] <Jhair> briceg: I do use rdesktop
[12:54] <nate_> how do you extract all the contents of a deb file?
[12:54] <jnoon> hmm ok... so i dont want killall -9? whats the best way to kill surely something by name (like killall)
[12:54] <pbr> snowblink I suspect it is just update-manager which is remember it (does it have a private cache?) apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't list anything (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.)
[12:54] <Whatsisname> sudo killall -9 init rofl
[12:54] <snowblink> pbr, apt-get clean; apt-get autoclean
[12:54] <Whatsisname> don't do that
[12:55] <nate_> or better yet, how do you create a dummy-package that just has certain dependencies
[12:55] <intelikey> jnoon kill -9 <pid>    or   killall <name>    but   sudo either for more force
[12:55] <pbr> snowblink Then what?
[12:56] <intelikey> jnoon ever use   top
[12:56] <snowblink> pbr, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install unison
[12:56] <briceg> Jhair : I've installed the programme, everything seem to be OK, I've also setup windows to allow "remote admin." but when I try on my Linux to do (g)rdesktop IP_of_Windows, after a while I have the message "Connection TIme Out", could you help me?
[12:56] <intelikey> nate_ meta packages
[12:56] <nate_> intelikey, ?
[12:57] <Jhair> briceg: what happens if you ping the remote machine, is there?
[12:57] <intelikey> a package of dependencies
[12:57] <intelikey> meta package
[12:57] <jnoon> intelikey,  ya use it
[12:57] <intelikey> jnoon yeah
[12:57] <nate_> intelikey, ahh, ok thanks
[12:57] <epssy> indeed, nate_ make a meta package similar to say build-essential
[12:57] <briceg> it's alright with the ping , in fact Samba is also installed and everything work right...
[12:57] <snowblink> pbr, if you insist on using update-manager, then clear out that cache.
[12:57] <warpzone> I'm trying to connect to myself via SSH, but I get "connection refused". I have port 22 open, and can connect to myself using the internal network address, just not from outside
[12:58] <Jhair> briceg: I've never seen such a message, unless the remote machine is available (I've tested Ubuntu<->Windows XP)
[12:58] <pbr> snowblink How?
[12:58] <intelikey> it's an interactive process manipulation app    CLI    jnoon
[12:58] <Jhair> briceg: maybe a firewall is in the way?
[12:58] <briceg> Jhair : I've also turn it off...
[12:59] <Jhair> briceg: maybe you can try ngrep no the remote machine to see if you get some traffic from your linux box
[12:59] <snowblink> pbr, in the preferences somewhere there are options to clear the cache IIRC
[12:59] <Jhair> briceg: I mean some rdesktop related traffic
[01:01] <Jhair> ngrep is available for windows afaik
[01:01] <intelikey> nate the way a meta package works when setup correctly is,  if you install it (it's empty by the way) all the deps it lists will be installed.  and if you remove it. you don't loose any files. it just removes the meta package.    how ever some meta packages have reverse dep'd  that is if you remove the meta package you uninstall lots of stuff.
[01:01] <briceg> Jhair : my distribution doesn't the ngrep command...
[01:02] <s_spiff> hello guys..
[01:02] <pbr> snowblink My main reason for using update-manager is that is what runs when the task bar update reminder is used to initiate package upgrade.
[01:02] <intelikey> shoot i gota get ready to go.    see yall when.
[01:03] <aliquis> So could someone tell me how to set options for a module without /etc/modprobe.conf?
[01:03] <Jack_2000> any one here have yamaha sound card and ubuntu breezy badger ?
[01:03] <Stargazers> Uh. Can't make wget work like I need :( I have file "files.txt" which contains all URL's I need to download. I have "filenames.txt" which contains all names how files should be renamed. Both contains as much lines, of course. So how I can download files.txt files but use names which are listed on filesnames.txt?
[01:03] <aliquis> i have "options snd-emu10k1x extin=0x3fff extout=0x7fff" in /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe
[01:03] <aliquis> but that doesn't seem to be enough
[01:04] <aliquis> or alsa doesn't support the spdif on the livedrive
[01:05] <briceg> Jhair : would you think it could be a problem because of my Laptop wideScreen or my linux distribution 64bit?
[01:06] <webex> whats the command to mount a smb drive in linux?
[01:07] <Chris_C> hello everyone
[01:07] <Stargazers>  Hi
[01:07] <Chris_C> does anyone know how to force a password change past the "too similar to old password" rejection?
[01:07] <Jhair> briceg: I don't think so, I use rdesktop almost daily with a widescreen laptop running 64bit ubuntu...
[01:07] <briceg> ...like me...
[01:08] <Jhair> briceg: I use it when connected to a VPN... Probably your problem has to do with some network issue
[01:08] <Jack_2000> change pass twice ??
[01:08] <Jack_2000> change first time to something diferent (321) and then to the desired pass :D
[01:11] <Chris_C> it might remember more than one password back; I wonder how to tell if it does; concerned that I'll get stuck with the new "temporary" password
[01:12] <bas_> anyone know a calendar app like evolution, but without the email functionality?
[01:12] <Jack_2000> have you tryed to search for some config or somerhing ?
[01:13] <zby> salut
[01:16] <snowblink> Chris_C, /etc/pam.d
[01:16] <bas_> anyone?
[01:16] <shukhrat> Hello All ! My Apache not runing when computer restart?
[01:17] <marlun> How do I change tabs in vi to the length of 4 spaces instead of 8?
[01:17] <snowblink> bas_, sunbird
[01:17] <bas_> sunbird.. I'll check it out, thanks
[01:17] <shukhrat> every time i'm type sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[01:17] <shukhrat>  then i's work
[01:17] <snowblink> marlun, look at tabstop and shiftwidth
[01:18] <esoteric> how can i tell if the kernel im running has QoS compiled in? (2.6.12-10-386)
[01:18] <aliquis> shukhrat: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[01:19] <marlun> snowblink: it doesn't seem to recognize either of them =/
[01:19] <Jhair> esoteric: in your linux sources: grep -i qos .config
[01:19] <X3n0n> hi, I have a problem with my gamepad. It seems that the gameport receives button clicks that I don't do.
[01:19] <shukhrat> Thanks Aliquis
[01:19] <X3n0n> The gamepad is sidewinder gamepad
[01:19] <Darky> //
[01:20] <snowblink> marlun, set tabstop=4 doesn't work?
[01:20] <aliquis> So I'll ask one more time, how can I set some options for the ALSA snd_emu10k1 module in Ubuntu? I want to enable my sb audigy livedrive.
[01:20] <marlun> snowblink: ah, I didn't use the "set" sorry for that.
[01:20] <X3n0n> is there any command so that ubuntu do not listen on gameport at all?
[01:22] <shukhrat> aliquis do we have easy way ?
[01:23] <X3n0n> i also want to say that wether i have my gamepad plugged or not, it receives button clicks
[01:25] <nate_> anyone know a good howto on creating metapackages?
[01:25] <ateves> hi, my x server doesn't start automatically anymore. i login via console and then startx
[01:25] <ateves> how can if fix that?
[01:25] <aliquis> shukhrat: I don't know much about ubuntu/debian way of doing things but probably something like: 1) look in /etc/init.d after something which looks like a file for apache, 2) type  update-rc.d <name of whatever has to do with apache> default
[01:26] <aliquis> defaults even
[01:27] <Chris_C> snowblink: thanks
[01:27] <Chris_C> I've found the /etc/pam.d/passwd file ...
[01:28] <Chris_C> it contains simply "@include common-password"
[01:28] <snowblink> Chris_C, so look at /etc/pam.d/common-password
[01:29] <snowblink> Chris_C, do you have cracklib enabled?
[01:29] <Chris_C> looking at file ...
[01:29] <aliquis> shukhrat: was that enough?
[01:29] <Chris_C> cracklib isn't called out in /etc/pam.d/passwd
[01:30] <shukhrat> aliquis i don't understand what to do next i found folder /ets/init.d wgat next ?
[01:31] <shukhrat> *what next
[01:31] <snowblink> Chris_C, is obscure enabled?
[01:31] <Chris_C> yes
[01:31] <blk^> i install telnetd but it doesn't run the service,what can i do ?
[01:31] <snowblink> Chris_C, that's probably what's doing some basic checks then
[01:31] <Chris_C> looking now for a man page for this ...
[01:32] <Chris_C> and unfortunately googling for "common-password" is no help
[01:32] <blk^> anyone can tell me how to start the telnetd service ?
[01:34] <webex> whats the ubuntu command or way to renew ip? (started the computer whit out the cable)
[01:34] <shukhrat> aliquis maybe i should change in /etc/default/apache2 ? directory
[01:35] <soundray> webex: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:35] <aliquis> shukhrat: type ls in /etc/init.d and see if there are some file called apachesomething or httpsomething
[01:35] <aliquis> shukhrat: and then type update-rc.d thenameofthatfile defaults
[01:35] <soundray> blk^: 'sudo apt-get install telnetd ; /etc/init.d/telnetd start'
[01:35] <dv_> hm where are the opengl manpages?
[01:35] <dv_> which package?
[01:36] <s_spiff> guys is there something like kazaa for linux.... or any substitute?
[01:36] <dv_> I need some glDrawElements reference for example
[01:36] <dv_> s_spiff, (k)mldonkey and amule
[01:36] <dv_> also several torrent clients
[01:36] <soundray> s_spiff: apt-cache search peer file sharing
[01:36] <s_spiff> ok..thnx
[01:36] <blk^> PID TTY TIME CMD
[01:36] <blk^> 7199 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
[01:36] <blk^> sorry
[01:37] <dv_> or are the opengl dev manpages in a X11 dev package?
[01:38] <Chris_C> still can't find documentation for /etc/pam.d/passwd or common-password ...
[01:39] <LinuxJones> Good Morning
[01:39] <soundray> Chris_C: maybe what you need is in /usr/share/doc/libpam*
[01:40] <esoteric> is there a way to load QoS into ubuntu without compiling a custom kernel?
[01:41] <shukhrat> aliquis in directory /etc/init.d i have file apache2
[01:41] <soundray> Is there something like an adapter that will let me use a Compact Flash memory card in place of a laptop HD?
[01:42] <DeadZed> Can anyone suggest a good back-up tool .. that would save current state of enviroment, so that in case I break the system, I could easily restore it?
[01:42] <aliquis> shukhrat: so type update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[01:42] <soundray> DeadZed: check out sbackup
[01:42] <DeadZed> danke
[01:42] <soundray> DeadZed: gern
[01:42] <EdLin> DeadZed, make your /etc updated by cvs
[01:43] <DeadZed> cause I broke my ubuntu by updating it to dapper
[01:43] <Jhair> EdLin: what happens if the cvs repository breaks? that's not a good backup. CVS is intended for version control not backup
[01:44] <shukhrat> aliguis: so should i only type in terminal this update-rc.d apache defaults it all ?
[01:44] <Qix> Hi, just installed ubuntu, now im stuck with a linux-windows problem
[01:44] <Qix> is there any slightly reliable way to write to a ntfs drive from ubuntu ?
[01:44] <DeadZed> Qix state your problem
[01:44] <EdLin> Jhair, he wasn't looking for a backup, he was looking for restoring configuration files
[01:44] <soundray> esoteric: all the QoS stuff is compiled as modules, so it should be possible.
[01:44] <Qix> DeadZed, busy ;) -- gimme a sec
[01:45] <aliquis> shukhrat: i think that is all yes
[01:45] <Qix> alternatively... is there a way i can convert it to a different filesystem without losing data ?
[01:45] <Jhair> EdLin: <DeadZed> Can anyone suggest a good back-up tool
[01:45] <esoteric> soundray, any perticular direction you can point me in, im not having much luck
[01:45] <Jhair> but it's ok, it doesn't matter :)
[01:45] <Qix> but then, i may wish to go back to windows, so if i do convert it, can the new system be read from inside windows ?
[01:45] <ragunath> when i tried to install kdevelop in ubuntu it gave me an error kde-config not installed , what should i do
[01:45] <DeadZed> Qix there is no RELIABLE way to write onto ntfs in linux
[01:45] <shukhrat> aliquis: It say like this : ( System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache already exist.
[01:45] <Qix> ok, so what about converting ?
[01:45] <Qix> and, if i do convert-  can i convert it back ?
[01:45] <EdLin> Qix, shrink your NTFS parittion and make a FAT32 parittion for sharing your Windows and GNU/Linux files
[01:46] <aliquis> EdLin: aren't there some program to use ext2 partitions in windows?
[01:46] <DeadZed> Qix I only use fat32 .. never ntfs - its risky
[01:46] <aliquis> in that case isn't it better to make the shared partition ext2
[01:46] <EdLin> aliquis, yes, but I think they are read-only
[01:46] <Qix> ok...
[01:46] <soundray> esoteric: no experience here, sorry. Look at the modules in /lib/modules/<your kernel version/kernel/net/sched/
[01:47] <lucas123> help with sweex router
[01:47] <DeadZed> aliquis ther's plenty of software for windows reading ext2, ext3 etc
[01:47] <aliquis> DeadZed: but not writing?
[01:47] <EdLin> he needs to *write*
[01:47] <lucas123> I have to reset my sweex router when I start ubuntu 5.10 to get a internet connection
[01:48] <lucas123> after a reset all is fine
[01:48] <shukhrat> People how to start Apache2 auto-ly after reboot com ?
[01:49] <lucas123> please some help with the router
[01:50] <Qix> ag, for now ill just leave it as it is
[01:50] <lucas123> anny help with the sweex router???please
[01:51] <Qix> ill work on it when i decided which OS im sticking with
[01:51] <shukhrat> aliquis: :(
[01:51] <soundray> esoteric, have you found http://www.opalsoft.net/qos/DS.htm ?
[01:51] <Toma-> !vfat
[01:51] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:52] <ReWT_AxS> How do you burn an ISO with serpentine?
[01:52] <lucas123> why do I have to reset my sweex router to get a internet connection??
[01:52] <aliquis> shukhrat: I have no idea why it doesn't work if the scripts already are there (and the command was the right one), you have installed apache as ubuntu packages and not compiled it by yourself or something?
[01:53] <funkyHat> ReWT_AxS, you don't, use gnomebaker or k3b
[01:53] <ReWT_AxS> WHich one is better?
[01:53] <soundray> lucas123, how is your router connected to the PC?
[01:53] <lucas123> lan eth0
[01:53] <aliquis> k3b
[01:53] <funkyHat> ReWT_AxS, both are fine, k3b is a KDE app
[01:53] <Toma-> k3b, but youll need to install some of kde to use it
[01:53] <aliquis> kde apps are good
[01:53] <aliquis> ;D
[01:53] <ReWT_AxS> oh okay
[01:53] <shukhrat> aliquis: I remove Apache and install Apache2 .
[01:53] <EdLin> ReWT_AxS, I like k3b better, but using it means you have to have KDE and Qt libraries
[01:53] <zer0n> can anyone tell me whether i'm gonna have to reinstall my nvidia drivers if try this howto:
[01:53] <zer0n> How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset (Enhanced Performance kernel
[01:54] <funkyHat> k3b is generally considered better but if you use gnome you might be better off with gnomebaker, especially if you have limited memory or disc space
[01:54] <soundray> lucas123, can you explain the problem in more detail please
[01:54] <aliquis> if you really have limited anything why use any of them instead of cdrecord / cdrecord-prodvd
[01:55] <lucas123> soundray I have a onboard eth card. adsl modem en sweex router all works perfect only after booting ubunte I have to reset the router to get a internet connection
[01:55] <Seveas> zer0n, yes you will have to reinstall
[01:55] <shukhrat> aliquis: in directory /etc/defaults/apache2 i have this)     0 = start on boot; #1 = don't start on boot
[01:55] <shukhrat> NO_START=1
[01:55] <aliquis> so set it to 0 then
[01:55] <soundray> lucas123, so you suspect ubuntu to interrupt the router's internet connection?
[01:55] <zer0n> hey 10x, but i installed them with automatix, so can I do it again with automatix after the kernel update?
[01:56] <shukhrat> NO_START=0 ? u meam ?
[01:56] <aliquis> yes
[01:56] <EdLin> brb
[01:56] <shukhrat> Ok ...
[01:56] <lucas123> Soundray yes its all I can think of all other computers have internet when I start ububtu all internet is gone a reset of the router and all is working again
[01:56] <aliquis> shukhrat: nice that you found it
[01:57] <Toma-> Seveas: silly question, ive installed a custom kernel, it boots fine, but no restricted modules :/ and also no ndiswrapper so i can get wireless network connected. any tips?
[01:57] <aliquis> lucas123: I can't understand why that would be except if you run a dhcpd in the ubuntu machine which starts updating the other machines ips or something weird like that
[01:58] <soundray> lucas123, does your router act as a DHCP and/or DNS server?
[01:58] <LinuxJones> Toma, that's the joy of running custom kernels :)
[01:58] <Toma-> im guessing its just a matter of rebuilding linux-modules-restricted...
[01:58] <aliquis> Toma-: don't use the custom kernel or build with with support for restricted modules and ndiswrappre?
[01:58] <lucas123> soundray yes its dhcp
[01:59] <Toma-> i need a custom kernel tho, my mobo is too new for .12
[01:59] <bungle> !bluetooth
[01:59] <ubotu> bluetooth is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[01:59] <soundray> lucas123, and does ubuntu get its IP from the router okay?
[02:00] <lucas123> soundray yes all data is fine ip etc
[02:01] <Qix> hi, I have one more odd problem...
[02:01] <Qix> how do i set the permissions, on a readonly file system
[02:01] <lucas123> soundray I can acces the router by http://192.168.2.1/
[02:01] <lucas123>  ans it says connected but there is no connection until I reset it
[02:01] <Qix> i have mounted my windows drive (read only), on /win/c
[02:02] <Qix> but can only access it from a root login
[02:02] <Qix> root@qix:/win# chmod 555 /win/e
[02:02] <Qix> chmod: changing permissions of `/win/e': Read-only file system
[02:02] <soundray> lucas123: can you access any log info on the router via http?
[02:02] <Seveas> Qix, duh
[02:02] <Seveas> you can't chmod on a r/o fs
[02:03] <lucas123> soundray yes and all it's telling me is all computers are connected
[02:03] <drummer87> arrgh... hi there, can someone help, i just got a sound card cos my onboard isn't working and I can't set it up...
[02:03] <Qix> Seveas, ok...
[02:03] <Qix> so how do i read from it when not as root ?
[02:03] <drummer87> it's chipset is cmi8738 and the kernel modules are loaded
[02:03] <Seveas> Qix, correct mount options (umask=2222)
[02:03] <Qix> and /win isnt a read-only fs
[02:04] <Qix> i set it through System=>Administration=>Disks
[02:04] <Qix> theres no mount options there
[02:04] <Qix> and its not in /etc/fstab
[02:04] <drummer87> and in system>preferenves>sound , it appears in the default device list, but when i select it, the change doesn't stick when i open 'sound' again
[02:04] <drummer87> :(
[02:04] <soundray> lucas123: you could run a ping to an internet site on one of your computers, then boot the ubuntu box and find out exactly at what stage of the boot process the ping stops working.
[02:05] <soundray> lucas123, make sure you set VERBOSE to yes in /etc/default/rcS
[02:05] <bungle> !java
[02:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:05] <lucas123> soundray how do I do that exactly I run ubuntu for 2 weeks so pleas give command line
[02:06] <drummer87> what do i need to do to get this pci card working as the default device over the onboard chip??
[02:07] <LinuxJones> drummer87: disable your onboard sound card in systems bios
[02:07] <lucas123> soundray during install the internet connection workd got all updates after the first real boot the problem started
[02:07] <drummer87> thanks, will try that
[02:07] <soundray> lucas123, 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/rcS'; find the line that says "VERBOSE=no", change no to yes, save the file and exit the editor. Stop ubuntu, reset the router, run the ping on the other machine, boot ubuntu, use a digital camera to take a screenshot the moment that the ping on the other machine stops.
[02:08] <soundray> lucas123, you can post the screenshot on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want people here to have a look at it.
[02:08] <Qix> guys, how do I ste mount options on a disk ive mounted
[02:09] <LinuxJones> drummer87: you can specify which soundcard your system uses but it's easier just to disable the soundcard since your not using it.
[02:09] <Qix> Seveas said i must set it to umask=2222 but in System=>Administration=>Disks the option isnt there
[02:10] <tristan_> Qix, umask=2222 has to be set in fstab
[02:10] <Qix> ok
[02:10] <Qix> well, id rather not go into editting fstab (but will if i have to)
[02:10] <lucas123> soundray oke will try it thanks for the help so far by the way ubuntu is the first linux version that I realy like and have installed in my computer without Window$ internet problem or not its stil great
[02:11] <Qix> im using that disks admin, but when i mount something - its only visible as root, how can i make it visible for all users ?
[02:11] <tristan_> Qix, I did not follow the topic but you want to mount a hard disk with specific right, don't you?
[02:11] <webex> anyone remembers the string to allow a specific user to a samba share? everyone in samba channel is away..
[02:11] <tristan_> I gibe you the example for my data partition : /dev/hda5       /media/Donnees  vfat    user,umask=000  0       0
[02:12] <Qix> erm, i have a ntfs disk (well, partition) which im mounting at /win/c... i can access it as root, but as another user it doesnt work
[02:12] <Sp4rKy> does anyone know where i have to put the plugin file of punBB?
[02:12] <shukhrat> aliquis: Viola ! it's work Thanks :)
[02:13] <jetscreamer> qix add that umask like tristan just posted in fstab
[02:13] <tristan_> then you can put instead of defaults for option : user,umask=000
[02:13] <Qix> well, ill try write an ntfs line
[02:13] <Qix> kk
[02:13] <Qix> thanks
[02:13] <tristan_> and be sure in my line to replace vfat by ntfs
[02:14] <paolob> Hi guys! What is there in ubuntu to make panorama photos?
[02:15] <elkbuntu> paolob, gimp is similar to photoshop, if that's what you're asking?
[02:15] <LinuxJones> paolob: the gimp I remember a howto hit google and you'll find it
[02:15] <soundray> paolob: ale. Don't expect anything fancy, though.
[02:16] <paolob> soundray, elkbuntu LinuxJones thank you!
[02:16] <soundray> paolob: there is also a gimp plugin by the name of pandora
[02:17] <gnomefreak> LinuxJones: the how to is in repos too
[02:18] <gnomefreak> gropping or something like that'
[02:19] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: I don't even use the gimp I just remember browsing the howto on a website like 5 months ago :)
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ;) i never learned how to use it
[02:19] <bungle> !easyrepos
[02:19] <ubotu> bungle: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:19] <soundray> !easysource
[02:19] <gnomefreak> everytime i open it i have windows flashbacks of pop ups
[02:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:19] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: I am not creative enough (ie smart enough) to learn The Gimp :D
[02:20] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i believe there's some plugin or script you can get that has all the panes joined
[02:20] <soundray> Come on guys! Gimp is really easy if you follow Grokking the Gimp
[02:20] <ramtha> peace ;)
[02:20] <ramtha> general tls question
[02:20] <gnomefreak> thats the how-to ty
[02:20] <gnomefreak> soundray: i can barely use tuxpaint
[02:20] <ramtha> does tls encrypt the whole mail transport or only authentification?
[02:21] <Jhair> test
[02:21] <ramtha> test succesfull
[02:21] <soundray> gnomefreak: :D  Try turning the sound on...
[02:22] <elkbuntu> soundray, i agree, gimp > all
[02:22] <Jhair> ramtha: now I know what "/amsg" is for...
[02:22] <elkbuntu> i forget what to do when im in that photoshop thing ;)
[02:22] <soundray> elkbuntu: I like imagemagick, too.
[02:22] <elkbuntu> hehe
[02:22] <bungle> how do i edit my sources list?
[02:22] <ramtha> no one ones the encryption behavior of tls?
[02:22] <webex> anyone knows how to restart samba?
[02:23] <soundray> ramtha: it encrypts the whole exchange afaik
[02:23] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: sends the message to every channel you're in
[02:23] <kemik> webex: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:23] <webex> kemik, thanks
[02:23] <bungle> !sources list
[02:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle
[02:23] <LinuxJones> ramtha: hit google and find out al you need to know about it.
[02:23] <bungle> !sources
[02:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:23] <natalie> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me.  I am still trying to get 5.10 to work.  right now, I can only get the gdm to start up whenever I startup in recovery mode.  If I start up in normal mode it freezes at the gdm.  I have tried turning off my ACPI, but then it just freezes when my kernel is loading.  Any help would be much appreciated.
[02:23] <ramtha> ok i have a look
[02:24] <gnomefreak> ah ty
[02:24] <elkbuntu> natalie, did you run any possible updates?
[02:24] <soundray> natalie: oh dear, you're still at it :(  Sorry the acpi suggestion didn't help.
[02:24] <natalie> elkbuntu: Yes, I have run all possible updates.
[02:24] <elkbuntu> and you're using breezy, not dapper?
[02:24] <natalie> soundray: Yeah, still at it, though thank you for the suggestion.
[02:25] <natalie> elkbuntu: Yes, It is breezy not dapper
[02:25] <elkbuntu> what errors are you having come up?
[02:26] <Unimatrix9> hi there
[02:26] <bintut> when will dapper be release?
[02:26] <soundray> !dapper
[02:26] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[02:26] <gnomefreak> bintut: april 20th or 6 weeks later than that
[02:26] <Unimatrix9> is there an easy repair for the ubuntu breezy flaw? ( passwd )?
[02:26] <LinuxJones> bintut: it probably will be delayed till middle of June though
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Unimatrix9: yes upgrade your kernel
[02:27] <kemik> Unimatrix9: update
[02:27] <Unimatrix9> thats not easy
[02:27] <LinuxJones> Unimatrix9: jsut update and upgrade your system
[02:27] <Unimatrix9> ah, i see
[02:27] <shukhrat> i couln'dt connect to mysql ? from index.php ? how to test it ?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Unimatrix9: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ^^thats easy
[02:27] <EvilDin> am guys need to install mail server which have webmail support for all users! which one to use it! and how?
[02:27] <Unimatrix9> cool, becuase i have an presentation this night, about ubuntu, and its the old breezy that we hand out...
[02:28] <Unimatrix9> thats why is ask :P
[02:28] <elkbuntu> shukhrat, you should probably go to either #php or #mysql for that, but if you pm me i'll give suggestions
[02:28] <aliquis> EvilDin: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[02:28] <ramtha> EvilDin: try courier or postfix / cyrus
[02:28] <Unimatrix9> ok, i will recommend update....
[02:28] <Unimatrix9> thanx
[02:28] <ramtha> EvilDin: or some phpgroupware
[02:28] <natalie> elkbuntu: not really sure.... It just freezes when it loads the gdm.  It's a full kernel panic.  I can't even switch screens with CTRL+ALT+F1.
[02:28] <aliquis> shukhrat: if you can connect with the shell client to the database and phpinfo() says php have mysql support it should work
[02:28] <aliquis> but postgresql is the better open database ;/
[02:28] <gazanfer> hi
[02:29] <gazanfer> nate_: are you online? im zedzero...
[02:29] <_jason> Unimatrix9: I would update and change password since someone may have seen it before the update
[02:29] <nate_> sup
[02:29] <EvilDin> am problem i am using not ubuntu apache but package XAMPP
[02:29] <EvilDin> so what do i use
[02:29] <soundray> natalie: what graphics card and driver are you running?
[02:29] <elkbuntu> shukhrat, aliquis you really should take the php/mysql talk to #ubuntu-offtopic at minimum
[02:29] <Unimatrix9> ah, yes good thinking
[02:29] <aliquis> an smtp/pop3/imap server to begin with?
[02:29] <bintut> gnomefreak and LinuxJones: thank you for your reply
[02:30] <gazanfer> nate_, xubuntu is very nice. but now i would like a graphical login screen. that is gdm or kdm right?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> its gdm
[02:30] <gazanfer> !gdm
[02:30] <ubotu> gazanfer: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:30] <natalie> soundray: I have a ATI 9800 radeon Pro.  Those are the drivers that I am using for it.
[02:30] <soundray> natalie, ati or fglrx?
[02:30] <avalost> there are several display managers you can use, gdm, xdm, kdm etc..
[02:30] <natalie> soundray: ATI
[02:30] <avalost> depends on which window manager you would like to use
[02:30] <gnomefreak> xubuntu,fluxbox,openbox,blackbox use gdm (but i think you can use different ones)
[02:31] <avalost> gnomefreak: you can use virtually any display manager with any window manager
[02:31] <natalie> soundray:  I have already tried redoing the xserver-xorg
[02:31] <soundray> natalie: I have loads of trouble whenever I try ati. I suggest you try fglrx -- look at ubotu's pm
[02:31] <soundray> !tell natalie about ati
[02:31] <Chris_C> does anyone know of any tools (hopefully available in the ubuntu repository) for downloading all of the pages of a website in one fell swoop?
[02:31] <merc> Chris_C: wget? :)
[02:31] <nate_> gazanfer, ya, or xdm
[02:31] <LinuxJones> Chris_C: there's an extension to FF that does that I believe
[02:31] <Chris_C> I basically need to a quick backup of a text-only internal website that I run
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Chris_C: there is onein repos but i dont remember name of it
[02:32] <gazanfer> !xdm
[02:32] <merc> Chris_C: im almost positive wget does it.
[02:32] <avalost> Chris_C: if it is internal just gzip it
[02:32] <Chris_C> merc: thanks, I'll check wget, indeed that might have an option
[02:32] <nate_> gazanfer, if you want to keep that theme you could go with xdm, but it's ugly
[02:32] <merc> Chris_C: np..
[02:32] <Chris_C> avalost: can't do that, it's zope, long story
[02:32] <avalost> or make a tar
[02:33] <GodFather> hi
[02:33] <avalost> Chris_C: hang on I had something about mirroring sites, let me see if it's here
[02:33] <GodFather> can anybody help me plz ?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> iirc wget will only get index pages
[02:33] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[02:33] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:33] <soundray> GodFather: I don't know. Depends on the problem.
[02:33] <GodFather> thx
[02:33] <athlon> has anyone here managed to compile the latest gnome using garnome (either cvs-daily or 2.13.92 version )
[02:34] <GodFather> I install on my pc
[02:34] <soundray> !enter
[02:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:34] <Unimatrix9> natalie : if you boot with an linux live cd, you could edit the xorg file, in fact you could put back the "old"working version thats backupped when you wrote the new file
[02:34] <GodFather> but I can`t login as root
[02:34] <GodFather> why ?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GodFather about root
[02:34] <chuckyp> !tell GodFather about sudo
[02:34] <cyphase> haha, that's funny: http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=171506#171506
[02:34] <soundray> Unimatrix9: natalie has already found out about recovery mode.
[02:34] <cyphase> someone thinks microsoft can top XGL
[02:34] <cyphase> :P
[02:34] <avalost> http://www.jim.roberts.net/articles/wget.html
[02:34] <avalost> Chris_C: ^
[02:34] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[02:34] <GodFather> thx
[02:34] <chuckyp> cyphase, who?
[02:35] <chuckyp> brb smoking also
[02:35] <jose> hola
[02:35] <Unimatrix9> natalie, if you use knoppix ( or even better kanotix ) you can copy the xorg.conf ( ah, i see recovery it is )
[02:35] <jose> Quien habla espanol
[02:35] <cyphase> chuckp, some guy on the MSDN forums
[02:35] <Unimatrix9> :)
[02:35] <snowblink> !tell jose about es
[02:37] <shukhrat> aliguis: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 20
[02:37] <webex> how do i restart bashrc ? keep forgetting it
[02:37] <ahFeel> source .bashrc
[02:38] <ahFeel> we0
[02:38] <ahFeel> webex
[02:38] <ahFeel> :)
[02:38] <webex> thanks ahFeel
[02:38] <ahFeel> np
[02:38] <ahFeel> :)
[02:40] <shukhrat> aliguis: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 20
[02:41] <floo> How do i get things to open with a SINGLE mouse click
[02:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell shukhrat about lamp
[02:42] <Chris_C> merc: all done, thanks again
[02:42] <elro> how do I set emacs to use the same font as the gnome terminal ('Monospace')?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> floo: kind of depends what your opening and from where. (you can also make a launch for it
[02:43] <gnomefreak> launcher )
[02:43] <floo> Well if I want to oopen files on my desktop for example
[02:43] <chuckyp> morning gnomefreak
[02:43] <drgREBORN> I need a little help with onboard sound
[02:43] <shukhrat> ubotu: i can connect from MySQL-Administrator and MySQL Query Browser but why my index.php say Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/shukhrat/index12/avto1.php on line 20
[02:43] <ubotu> shukhrat: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:43] <gnomefreak> morning chuckyp
[02:43] <Jhair> elro: emacs -fn 6x10
[02:43] <_jason> shukhrat: did you read the page ubotu sent you to?
[02:44] <Sp4rKy> please, where must i put the plugin file of punBB (in which directory ) ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: that might be better suited for #mysql (sounds like either a config issue or a issue with w/e that file is
[02:44] <gnomefreak> )
[02:45] <aliquis> Did anyone know how to set options for an alsa module in ubuntu? i need to get my livedrive working
[02:45] <drgREBORN> I need a little help with onboard sound, ubuntu has taken over the onboard chip and now windows cannot sense the chip and thus I have no sound.
[02:46] <chuckyp> aliquis, alsamixer?
[02:46] <thefish> drgREBORN: you have windows and ubuntu running simultaneously?
[02:46] <aliquis> chuckyp: i can't find any options for the external spdif in it
[02:46] <drgREBORN> (thefish): no
[02:46] <chuckyp> aliquis, and alsactl maybe
[02:46] <aliquis> chuckyp: if i turn over the analog / spdif setting all it changes it the spdif on the sound card
[02:46] <thefish> then how do you think ubuntu has taken it over?
[02:47] <shukhrat> _jason: yes read ! several times
[02:47] <aliquis> chuckyp: but not on the livedrive, and i have no optical cable to test the livedrive with
[02:47] <drgREBORN> (thefish): I'm now in windows, when I check hardware manager it state my sound chip is at /root/dev/sound which ubuntu uses
[02:47] <_jason> shukhrat: did you install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and php(4/5)-mysql
[02:47] <aliquis> chuckyp: also i sad options and meant module options, not mixer
[02:47] <chuckyp> aliquis, Dunno then but alsamixer might allow you to turn on the spdif
[02:47] <chuckyp> aliquis, if not I dunno
[02:48] <aliquis> chuckyp: yeah but switching over from analog to spdif only turn on spdif on the sound card, not on the livedrive
[02:48] <thefish> drgREBORN: i think you have a windows problem there, ubuntu cant write to hardware
[02:48] <drgREBORN> cant be
[02:48] <aliquis> so i guess either alsa doesn't support it on the livedrive or i have to set the options for the snd_emu10k1 module
[02:48] <aliquis> and that's why I wonder how to do that in ubuntu
[02:48] <drgREBORN> think ubuntu overrode my windows driver or something
[02:48] <thefish> drgREBORN: it cant
[02:48] <aliquis> i've created the file /etc/modprobe.d/snd_emu10k1.modprobe with the options
[02:49] <pd> Hi there all
[02:49] <shukhrat> _jason: now i trying install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql but it say W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_bina
[02:49] <drgREBORN> but it cant even detect the chip
[02:49] <aliquis> but I have no idea if that is enough or if it works, i just know i don't get the result i'm looking for ;)
[02:49] <drgREBORN> and its displaying the path of teh chip as in ubuntu
[02:49] <_jason> shukhrat: sudo apt-get update
[02:49] <drgREBORN> somehow they got mixed.
[02:49] <thefish> drgREBORN: where do you see /root/dev/sound in windows?
[02:49] <pd> I dont have  linux specific topic, but I would like to know how to make my vim editor colorful while editing bash scripts
[02:49] <drgREBORN> device manager
[02:49] <pd> I believe in RHEL systems it come automatically
[02:49] <shukhrat> _jason: Thanks
[02:49] <drgREBORN> the sound devices
[02:50] <drgREBORN> instance id
[02:50] <aliquis> pd: :set syntax on and :set nocompatible
[02:50] <gnomefreak> pd: you mean syntax coloring?
[02:50] <thefish> drgREBORN: thats a windows error, also there is no such thing as /root/dev in any linux afaik
[02:50] <pd> gnomefreak: yes
[02:51] <gnomefreak> pd: see aliquis comment
[02:51] <thefish> drgREBORN: also, your ubuntu will probably use /dev/dsp for access to the soundcard
[02:51] <pd> aliquis: I did not understand you properly,
[02:51] <aliquis> or just touch ~/.vimrc since that will turn on nocompatible settings
[02:51] <aliquis> pd: in vim type :set syntax on
[02:52] <pd> aliquis: I am trying now
[02:52] <drgREBORN> thefish:thanks anyways I'll just buy a dedicated soudncard then
[02:52] <aliquis> pd: ESC before if you are in insert mode
[02:52] <tomasz> hej
[02:52] <Andr31> Does anybody know why don`t my mp3`s play, and I installed gstreamer.
[02:52] <pd> ok
[02:52] <_jason> !mp3
[02:52] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:53] <Andr31> I INSTALLED GSTREAMER _jason
[02:53] <_jason> Andr31: I wasn't sure if you were referring to gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:53] <Andr31> I did
[02:53] <_jason> Andr31: gst-register-0.8 and restart totem
[02:54] <Andr31> _jason, you mean download it?
[02:54] <_jason> Andr31: run the command 'gst-register-0.8'
[02:54] <pd> aliquis: I get this message "E492: Not an editor command: et syntax on"
[02:54] <_jason> pd: :set not :et
[02:54] <Andr31> H/o
[02:55] <Andr31> _jason,  still not... :/
[02:55] <Andr31> Only one mp3 plays
[02:55] <aliquis> pd: so type SET instead of ET
[02:55] <aliquis> ;/
[02:55] <_jason> Andr31: if one mp3 plays then you can play mp3's
[02:56] <Andr31> No I can`t
[02:56] <pd> aliquis: now i get it
[02:56] <aliquis> or well, :set syntax=on
[02:56] <aliquis> ;/
[02:56] <Andr31> can I run Totem from command line?
[02:56] <_jason> Andr31: 'totem'
[02:56] <Andr31> H/o
[02:56] <aliquis> pd: sorry about that, should had been "syntax on" or ":set syntax=on"
[02:57] <Darky> how can i do this icons (look at the butom of the pic):
[02:58] <Darky> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[02:58] <Darky> how can i do this icons (look at the butom of the pic):
[02:58] <Darky> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[02:58] <aliquis> darkfires: look at the comments
[02:58] <aliquis> Darky: second comment
[02:58] <aliquis> ;)
[02:59] <aliquis> alternative answers: 1) buy a mac 2) use kde and the superkaramba thing which supplies them
[02:59] <Andr31> _jason, I managed to play that mp3 with RythmBox
[02:59] <kfransen> is there a way to lock ssh?
[02:59] <Juhaz> it might be starterbar gdesklets. or it could be nothing, considering that screenshot is obviously fake
[02:59] <kouwe> is there an application, so i can see the temperature of my pc and fan speed etc for ubuntu?
[02:59] <aliquis> kfransen: lock? like in not enable it?
[03:00] <elkbuntu> !sensors
[03:00] <ubotu> sensors is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[03:00] <kouwe> :)
[03:00] <kfransen> yes
[03:00] <elkbuntu> kouwe, --^
[03:00] <_jason> Andr31: so you can only play one mp3 out of your whole collection?  what happens with the other ones?
[03:00] <aliquis> !snd_emu10k1_options
[03:00] <kouwe> nice thnx
[03:00] <aliquis> ;/
[03:00] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aliquis
[03:00] <Andr31> _jason,  they simply don`t load
[03:00] <_jason> Andr31: you are using breezy?
[03:01] <sobersabre> hi guys. i got the dapper .... is there a repo for it, with, say backports ?
[03:01] <Andr31> meaning 5.10?
[03:01] <_jason> sobersabre: there are no backports for dapper since backports come from the next version of ubuntu and there isn't one yet
[03:01] <elkbuntu> sobersabre, there's a channel for it, it's #ubuntu+1
[03:02] <_jason> Andr31: yeah
[03:02] <Andr31> Yes
[03:02] <Aarohi> hi guys. i can't unload using rmmod..
[03:02] <Aarohi> i need help
[03:02] <sobersabre> _jason: I currently have main,restricted,universe,multiverse sections.
[03:02] <_jason> Andr31: I don't know, I can't understand how one can play.  I would think it would be all or nothing
[03:02] <chuckyp> Aarohi, are you using sudo rmmod?
[03:02] <sobersabre> Are there "extras" or something ?
[03:03] <Aarohi> chuckyp, should i?
[03:03] <Andr31> _jason, me too
[03:03] <_jason> sobersabre: not that I know of, try #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <chuckyp> sobersabre, yes the universe and multiverse
[03:03] <chuckyp> Aarohi, yes
[03:03] <Aarohi> k i'll try again chuckyp thanks
[03:03] <Aarohi> _jason, jason crosby?
[03:03] <_jason> Aarohi: nope
[03:03] <Andr31> _jason, do I need sudo <something>
[03:03] <Andr31> ?\
[03:03] <Aarohi> k sorry _jason
[03:04] <_jason> Andr31: shouldn't, that gstreamer0.8-mad package is all you need to play mp3's
[03:06] <Andr31> _jason,  can you reccomend me a command line mp3 player?
[03:06] <briceg> hello
[03:06] <_jason> Andr31: mpg123
[03:06] <chuckyp> Andr31, vlc?
[03:06] <briceg> Does someone ever had this message in var/log/messages :  localhost kernel: usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
[03:07] <chuckyp> !tell briceg about someone
[03:07] <moshe> hello
[03:07] <chuckyp> yellow
[03:08] <briceg> hi chucky !
[03:09] <Andr31> I get vlc for Debian, right?
[03:09] <chuckyp> Andr31, its in the universe repos
[03:09] <_jason> Andr31: vlc is in universe
[03:09] <chuckyp> Andr31, sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:09] <Andr31> Ok
[03:10] <chuckyp> Andr31, thats if you have the universe enabled
[03:10] <chuckyp> Andr31, theres even a x frontend and a mozilla plugin for it.
[03:10] <Frogzoo> I'm looking for a freenode server with port 443 usable (through corporate proxy) any ideas?
[03:10] <CraiZE> hello, i just installed ubuntu
[03:11] <CraiZE> but it keeps on prompting me when trying to SU to root for a pwd
[03:11] <Andr31> After the dependencie root is made there are lotsa errors
[03:11] <CraiZE> i never entered one....
[03:11] <Frogzoo> !sudo
[03:11] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <Andr31> chuckyp, I have universe enabled, but it can`t find it
[03:12] <Andr31> :/
[03:12] <soundray> Andr31, did you run apt-get update?
[03:12] <webex> man i cant get the samba to work.. hade the sameproblem the last time. cant log in whit the windows propt.. i have encrypted passwords = yes, and user = webex, and i have added webex whit smbpasswd -a webex.. anyone have an ide? (all is aw in sabma channel)
[03:12] <CraiZE> hm
[03:12] <CraiZE> craize@ip-192-168-0-50:~/Desktop$ sudo chmod 777 C
[03:12] <CraiZE> chmod: changing permissions of `C': Read-only file system
[03:12] <Enthusiast78> Anyone playing around with OpenVPN?
[03:12] <CraiZE> i just want to be able to read it ffs :(
[03:13] <Andr31> soundray, how`s that
[03:13] <soundray> Andr31: are you using synaptic?
[03:13] <Andr31> Yes
[03:13] <snowblink> CraiZE, sudo chmod a+r ...
[03:13] <CraiZE> ok
[03:13] <Andr31> soundray, yes
[03:13] <soundray> Andr31, click the update button on the very left.
[03:14] <CraiZE> snowblink, sudo chmod a+r C
[03:14] <CraiZE> doesnt work either :(
[03:14] <soundray> CraiZE: where is C located?
[03:14] <CraiZE> in /home/craize/Desktop/C
[03:14] <Andr31> Wow, my connection has 50kbps Never taught it would
[03:14] <metellius> how can I set the qt-style to plastique instead of the ugly cde-default? (for qt4 on ubuntu)
[03:14] <Andr31> I had 27
[03:14] <CraiZE> and i am in /home/craize/Desktop
[03:15] <CraiZE> how can i change the owner
[03:16] <CraiZE> so the owner becomes me, instead of root?
[03:16] <_jason> CraiZE: what is C?
[03:16] <CraiZE> a mounted NTFS partition
[03:16] <soundray> CraiZE, if your home is a read-only filesystem, there's something wrong.
[03:16] <psycho_oreos> CraiZE: chown
[03:16] <soundray> CraiZE: ahh
[03:16] <CraiZE> yah
[03:16] <CraiZE> i mounted it with the disk tool
[03:16] <_jason> CraiZE: mount it with umask=222 as an option
[03:16] <soundray> CraiZE: NTFS is read only.
[03:16] <CraiZE> in ubuntu
[03:16] <psycho_oreos> CraiZE: you need to set the umask=0600 or something
[03:16] <CraiZE> where do i set the mask?
[03:16] <CraiZE> i used the provided tools to do it
[03:16] <psycho_oreos> /etc/fstab
[03:16] <CraiZE> which fail to work :P
[03:16] <CraiZE> k
[03:17] <soundray> !tell CraiZE about enter
[03:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell CraiZE about ntfs
[03:17] <psycho_oreos> btw, after you edit the file, you need to unmount the partition/disk and then remount it. After that check it via 'mount' or cat /proc/mouts or cat /etc/mtab
[03:17] <CraiZE> uh
[03:18] <psycho_oreos> s/mouts/mounts
[03:18] <CraiZE> i can use that script?
[03:18] <psycho_oreos> what script?
[03:18] <edan> can anyone help me? it seems that my firefox keyboard shourts are not working how do i fix that??
[03:19] <CraiZE> okay that script helped
[03:19] <CraiZE> thanks alot :)
[03:19] <CraiZE> now on to my next problem, my keymap, where can i change it?
[03:19] <psycho_oreos> CraiZE: ubotu is a bot
[03:19] <CraiZE> yeah i know , heheh
[03:19] <CraiZE> i thank the guy who made the bot tell me the info
[03:19] <CraiZE> :)
[03:20] <CraiZE> so how can i change my keymap?
[03:21] <takedown> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:21] <CraiZE> ok thanks
[03:22] <CraiZE> uhm
[03:22] <edan> somone knows how to get firefox shourtcuts to work?
[03:22] <chuckyp> edan, like what sort of shortcuts?
[03:22] <CraiZE> i only want to change the keyboard layout
[03:22] <CraiZE> not my config of X11
[03:22] <CraiZE> :(
[03:22] <edan> chuckyp, keyboard
[03:23] <sdfzx> where can i download the diskmounting bash script?
[03:23] <soundray> CraiZE: check out the keyboard indicator utility for the gnome panel.
[03:23] <Steve^> I'm wanting to update gaim to the new beta, hoping it will remove some of the ultra-annoying bugs. Since it is beta, should I uninstall the older version first, or can I just install the newer version over the top?
[03:23] <chuckyp> edan, well what did you change?
[03:23] <edan> chuckyp, like ctrl+t and stuff like that...
[03:23] <chuckyp> edan, and which ones don't work?
[03:23] <CraiZE> soundray, where is that?
[03:23] <edan> chuckyp, all of them...
[03:23] <soundray> CraiZE: right click panel, select Add to panel, under Utilities
[03:24] <bobulator> anyone got any ideas why my soundblaster audigy isnt working? ive tried pretty much everything i can find on tinternet. it worked before we moved the computer into a new case...
[03:24] <CraiZE> yes
[03:24] <CraiZE> that lets me see it
[03:24] <CraiZE> but not change?
[03:24] <chuckyp> edan, hrm... do the mouse shortcuts work?
[03:25] <CraiZE> oh
[03:25] <CraiZE> found it, thank you :)
[03:25] <chuckyp> edan, what did you change before they stopped working?
[03:25] <edan> chuckyp, all my key boared shourtcuts kined whent crazy is ther any way to change them backe to defualet
[03:25] <chuckyp> bobulator, is the os detecting it.  i.e. lspci
[03:25] <bobulator> yup
[03:25] <chuckyp> bobulator, also make sure you are plugged in to the right port on the bakc.  and that your speakers work.
[03:25] <bobulator> yup
[03:26] <bobulator> checked a million times, haha
[03:26] <chuckyp> edan, I dunno where firefox holds its shortcuts let me poke around.
[03:26] <edan> chuckyp,i changed somthing in confuguration editor....
[03:26] <sdfzx> pls give me the link of diskmounting script
[03:27] <_jason> !diskmounter
[03:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:27] <Shigutso> is there any application in Linux for me to program in Turbo Pascal language?
[03:27] <Elektrochelovek> Shigutso, fpc
[03:27] <Elektrochelovek> free pascal compiler
[03:28] <Shigutso> hmm and where can i get it?
[03:28] <Steve^> is there a free Delphi complier?
[03:28] <Elektrochelovek> http://www.freepascal.org/
[03:28] <Shigutso> thank you very much :D
[03:28] <Steve^> that website has been down for a while...
[03:28] <Elektrochelovek> np;)
[03:29] <Andr31> soundray, I managed to make VLC play.. !
[03:30] <soundray> Andr31: well done.
[03:30] <edan> chuckyp, its really wiered bucoase now it workes all by itself.....
[03:30] <chuckyp> edan, i dunno it appears the shortcuts are built into the binary.  is it possible you changed your keyboard layout or something goofy?
[03:30] <chuckyp> edan, hrm..
[03:30] <Andr31> Thanks guys!
[03:31] <benkong2> Hey, all dapper drake is awesome in ubuntu I love the graphics
[03:31] <edan> chuckyp, anything is possible....
[03:31] <Rendo> Anyone know where I can find a site with the features of Dapper Drake?
[03:31] <benkong2> Only one thing I had ubuntu working perfectly ifplug, net-manager applet wireless and all switched perfectly etc. Then when I did an apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop it all broke. What happened?
[03:32] <elkbuntu> dapper discussions should be in #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <edan> chuckyp, thnx for helping :)
[03:32] <znoopee> deutsch sprechende hier?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> !de
[03:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:32] <soundray> benkong2: have you tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[03:32] <ruzgar> i cant play my dvd in ubuntu
[03:32] <ruzgar> which programs can play dvd formak
[03:32] <soundray> !tell ruzgar about restricted
[03:33] <Frogzoo> ruzgar: have you installed libdecss
[03:33] <benkong2> soundray: no but I will
[03:33] <CraiZE> hrm, i guess i need to restart X11
[03:33] <benkong2> soundray: what does it -f "force"
[03:33] <CraiZE> to test it out
[03:33] <CraiZE> i bbl
[03:33] <bobulator> anyone got any other ideas for getting my SB audigy to work? im certain its  asoftware problem
[03:33] <ruzgar> i can play divx avi format
[03:33] <ruzgar> but i cant open dvd format
[03:34] <soundray> benkong2: when you do a big(gish) install like kubuntu, you will sometimes have left over work for apt. 'apt-get -f install' fixed that.
[03:34] <soundray> ruzgar, read ubotu's message.
[03:34] <benkong2> soundray: k I am running it now
[03:34] <ruzgar> ok
[03:34] <soundray> s/fixed/fixes/
[03:35] <djk_> does dapper include more languages by default?
[03:35] <soundray> djk_: yes.
[03:36] <djk_> soundray: where can i get a list of them?
[03:36] <Fable> list of wat?
[03:36] <benkong2> soundray: hmmm all I get is a "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 55 not upgraded." so I guess I gotta dig more. Ifplugd borks on boot after the install
[03:36] <soundray> djk_: have you got it installed yet?
[03:37] <Frogzoo> ruzgar: try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdread3' - but consider if you're violating patent/legal restrictions
[03:37] <djk_> soundray: no, 5.10.
[03:38] <soundray> djk_: I've posted the output of apt-cache search language-pack to http://www.soundray.org/dapperlanguages.txt
[03:38] <djk_> soundray: err.. that was not the question..
[03:38] <djk_> soundray: the question was, does dapper include more languages by default, meaning, without apt-get..
[03:39] <soundray> djk_: you mean on the install CD? I don't know.
[03:39] <djk_> soundray: yea, that's what i mean.
[03:40] <elkbuntu> since dapper isnt complete yet, it's unlikely there's a full list just yet
[03:43] <soundray> djk_: what decision is going to be based on the answer?
[03:44] <Frogzoo> djk_: dapper will support korean, japanese & mandarin amongst others - & better support & probably more languages than breezy
[03:45] <djk_> soundray: whether or not it'll be installed on a pc without inet-access.
[03:45] <Frogzoo> djk_: ooh... high stakes :)
[03:46] <znoopee> where can i find a working ati driver installation howto? i tried about 6 and they all resultet in x-server crash -.-
[03:46] <Frogzoo> !ati
[03:46] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:46] <sp3ed>  hey, can someone tell me how to mount a filesystem? i can list the shared file whit smbclient //ip/share -U username.. but i cant get the mount commands to work
[03:46] <Frogzoo> znoopee: which vid card?
[03:46] <znoopee> x800
[03:46] <soundray> djk_: there are ways to add packages to machines that are offline.
[03:46] <Frogzoo> znoopee: you want the fglrx driver
[03:46] <Frogzoo> !fglrx
[03:46] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <znoopee> i'm noob ^^ just some 3d acceleration
[03:47] <djk_> soundray: for example?
[03:47] <Frogzoo> znoopee: I'd suggest you go the seaveas repo route
[03:47] <Fable> is DAPPER getin the latest GNOME... cuz it is out 15th/3 which is by my CALCULATION 2moz
[03:47] <mikelo> new kernel image out
[03:48] <znoopee> fglrx is the easiest to install right? well then i try this first ;)
[03:48] <Frogzoo> Fable: definite maybe - schedules are being debated as we speak
[03:48] <sp3ed> Please? can someone help me mount a samba filesystem? the books stupid commands dont work =(
[03:48] <crybaby> I thought that drapper wil be delayed for some weeks
[03:48] <dooglus> Badm4n: /join #ubuntu-meeting
[03:48] <kas_> hallo
[03:48] <Fable> Frogzoo: AWS
[03:49] <soundray> djk_: look at the print-uris option of apt-get
[03:49] <zebarbu> newbie question: where may I find the .config used to compile the linux-image installed?
[03:49] <gazanfer> what packages do i need to use graphical sudo?
[03:50] <CraiZE> uhm, hello again :P
[03:50] <zebarbu> anybody to answer me, please?
[03:50] <CraiZE> the keymap i change from the utility panel, doesnt affect the keyboard at all as it seems
[03:50] <Frogzoo> zebarbu: /boot
[03:51] <Jazarus> Hello there friends
[03:51] <zebarbu> Frogzoo: ok, thanks. An other question: I install kernel sources, but the version is 'truncated'
[03:52] <djk_> soundray: that would require another fresh install.
[03:52] <zebarbu> linux-source-2.6.15, but the installed kernel is  2.6.15-18-
[03:53] <zebarbu> Frogzoo: why this version different?
[03:53] <Jazarus> I have a question: Would ubuntu be able to boot on my pci graphics pre-sawtooth 350mhz PowerMac G4?
[03:53] <soundray> zebarbu, the 18 is a build number added by ubuntu.
[03:53] <zebarbu> Frogzoo: yes, but sources are patched for -18 ?
[03:53] <CraiZE> could anyone help me to change the Keymap of my Keyboard?
[03:53] <zebarbu> Frogzoo: how may I do if I want to recompile a -17?
[03:53] <Seveas> zebarbu, no, 18 is just an abi number
[03:54] <LS|-away-> wusste garnet das Slackware so verbreitet ist
[03:54] <soundray> Jazarus: probably. Check out a live CD if you are unsure.
[03:54] <phreak97> how do i enable dma acceleration on my cd burner?
[03:54] <Seveas> LS|-away-, this is #ubuntu - english only and no slackware...
[03:54] <Frogzoo> !dma
[03:54] <soundray> phreak97: use hdparm
[03:54] <mikelo> ubuntu rulez
[03:54] <LS|-away-> sry
[03:54] <mikelo> windoz sux
[03:54] <LS|-away-> wrong channel
[03:54] <rasputnik> Seveas: but surely there's a patchset to apply to the stock source?
[03:54] <Seveas> rasputnik, ubuntu-patch-$abinumber
[03:54] <Frogzoo> phreak97: /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:54] <weedar> Hi guys! I downloaded and installed 2.6.14 kernel (as per the HOWTO on ubuntu-forums), can I safely remove ubuntu packages of older kernels?
[03:54] <zebarbu> Seveas: Debian.src.changelog says that sources are pateched to follow -17, -18 and so on...
[03:55] <rasputnik> Seveas: cheers (I"m having a go at xen soon and could do with a headstart)
[03:55] <rasputnik> weedar: if it boots, yes
[03:55] <Seveas> !xen
[03:55] <ubotu> well, xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[03:55] <Jazarus> soundray : is this what you mean ? -->  http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
[03:55] <CraiZE> could anyone help me to change the Keymap of my Keyboard?
[03:55] <Frogzoo> that will completely rock when pacifica launches
[03:56] <weedar> rasputnik, it boots nicely =) The reason I ask is because I noticed that adept wants to upgrade my 2.6.12 packages...yet since I'm not using them I don't see the point =)
[03:56] <Toma-> !nvidia
[03:56] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:56] <FrdPrefct> Hello
[03:56] <Jazarus> I still dont know what I am meant to do with that list
[03:56] <FrdPrefct> Is there anything better than dia or kivio for ubuntu?
[03:56] <rasputnik> Frogzoo: it's pretty good now :) - but tricky if you want to add to the build (lvm in my case)
[03:56] <phreak97> soundray, Frogzoo, i think im gonna need more help than that.. im a fair noob
[03:57] <dzonni> !intel
[03:57] <ubotu> dzonni: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:57] <rasputnik> Jazarus: there's an ubuntu livecd for powerpc
[03:57] <CraiZE> hrm this sucks, i cant even get my right keymap :(
[03:57] <ardchoille> did they take libdvdcss2 out of the plf repos?
[03:57] <viller> hi
[03:57] <FrdPrefct> FYI, I've passed out over 100 Ubuntu cd's at my office, and everyone seems to be loving it.
[03:57] <fyrzen> right keymap on what? Ubuntu?
[03:57] <dispanser> CraiZe: you can use the xmodmap command
[03:57] <viller> is linux (kernel) monolithic or is it a microkernel??
[03:57] <CraiZE> dispanser, thanks i look into that
[03:57] <Jazarus> thanks
[03:57] <rasputnik> CraiZE: it's under the admin menu? or kbdconfig if you want the console
[03:57] <psycho_oreos> viller: monolithic
[03:57] <soundray> Jazarus: no, I mean http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ (Mac live CD)
[03:57] <Frogzoo> viller: mono
[03:58] <gazanfer> can anybody help me with a specific xfce4 problem?
[03:58] <Seveas> viller, monolithic but with loadable module support
[03:58] <sp3ed> Anyone ever mounted a samba filsystem in ubuntu? please i really need help
[03:58] <viller> now i have to make a suicide
[03:58] <rasputnik> sp3ed: nautilus can do it
[03:58] <FrdPrefct> sp3ed: Yup, what's the issue?
[03:58] <dispanser> CraiZe: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<your_country_code>
[03:58] <viller> i have always thought that Linux is a microkernel
[03:58] <soundray> phreak97: there is a guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:58] <FrdPrefct> sp3ed: Even got it set up for automount  =P
[03:58] <psycho_oreos> viller: that does not mean you can turn it into microkernel yourself with a bit of messing around with kernel configs and recompiling
[03:58] <FrdPrefct> (don't ask)
[03:59] <rasputnik> viller: why? nothing uses microkernel, it's not worth the bother these days
[03:59] <gazanfer> anybody knows what do i need to run sudo in x? (im not using gnome or kde, xfce4)
[03:59] <viller> it's not about how good it is
[03:59] <CraiZE> its still wrong
[03:59] <sp3ed> FrdPrefct: i cant get it to work. i have red all there is to read and come up whit the command: mount -t smbfs //IP/folder /mountfolder -o username=sp3ed
[03:59] <phreak97> soundray, thanks
[03:59] <psycho_oreos> rasputnik: GNU/Hurd is microkernel IIRC
[03:59] <CraiZE> i change it and all, but it doesnt affect my system
[03:59] <CraiZE> :(
[03:59] <viller> it's that i have been living in a big lie for all the time I have used Linux (6 months :D)
[03:59] <Jazarus> thanks all
[03:59] <rasputnik> psycho_oreos: exactly. how many boxes do you know that run that?
[04:00] <sp3ed> FrdPrefct: but it dosnt work.. i can list the files whit smbclient //IP/Folder -U sp3ed
[04:00] <dispanser> CraiZe: I assume you're talking about running X?
[04:00] <soundray> CraiZE: does the indicator icon change when you click it?
[04:00] <CraiZE> not really
[04:00] <CraiZE> it seems like its not doing its job :(
[04:00] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: is the shell stripping your chars? try  mount -t smbfs //IP/folder /mountfolder -o
[04:00] <rasputnik> anyone know a command line dvd burner ?
[04:00] <gazanfer> anybody knows what do i need to run sudo in x? (im not using gnome or kde, xfce4)
[04:00] <CraiZE> i just want the regular german keymap to run on my whole system, is that somehow doable?
[04:00] <viller> but what about bsd? It has came from UNIX so it's monolithic?
[04:01] <psycho_oreos> rasputnik: not many but then again, its not like as if its non-existant :)
[04:01] <soundray> CraiZE: then you're back to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[04:01] <fyrzen> have you tryed editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf layout setting?
[04:01] <rasputnik> CraiZE: sudo kbdconfig
[04:01] <dispanser> CraiZe: under X, you can set your keyboard layout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the following line:
[04:01] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: scratch that
[04:01] <soundray> CraiZE: You can just accept the defaults for anything you don't want to change.
[04:01] <CraiZE> soundray, ah okay
[04:01] <CraiZE> thanks
[04:01] <CraiZE> dispanser, also thanks, kudos to rasputnik also
[04:01] <CraiZE> i try
[04:02] <rasputnik> viller: BSD is monolithic with loadable modules, yes
[04:02] <soundray> CraiZE: under keyboard layout, enter "de"
[04:02] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: experiment with smbclient 1st maybe
[04:02] <linxtvr> Hi, I'm stupid I deleted the proftpd file from /etc/init.d/ anyone know how I can add this again?
[04:03] <soundray> CraiZE: under keyboard ruleset, "xorg", and under model "pc105"
[04:03] <sp3ed> Frogzoo: there is so mutch text, can we take it priv?
[04:03] <Pecisk> newest so called "Human" theme for Ubuntu Dapper - it is final version or there will be improvements?
[04:03] <kennethd> Usually I use ~/.bash_profile to adjust my PATH and start keychain @ login, & these things are inherited by all terminals I open, etc, but this is not working with the default gdm setup
[04:03] <Pecisk> because if it is first, it looks seriously half-backed, and very odd
[04:04] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: soz - I'm busy this end, so won't be much help
[04:04] <rasputnik> how would I bump my ubuntu to dapper? just change s/breezy/dapper in sources.list and 'apt-get dist upgrade' ?
[04:04] <soundray> Pecisk: it is not ready.
[04:04] <soundray> For dapper questions, go to #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <kennethd> rasputnik, growisofs is a command-line dvd burner
[04:04] <sp3ed> FrdPrefct, you still here?
[04:04] <rasputnik> kennethd: that burns too? nice, thanks
[04:05] <CraiZE> how can i now restart X11 ?
[04:05] <CraiZE> lol
[04:05] <rasputnik> soundray: when I get dapper, I will :)
[04:05] <rasputnik> CraiZE: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:05] <Pecisk> soundray: thanks
[04:05] <CraiZE> thanks
[04:06] <Kezzer> crikey =O I guess Ubuntu is quite popular then
[04:06] <Wapppo> Hello I would like to know if there's a way to know what deb package provides a file with apt or dpkg?
[04:06] <Kezzer> I'm just about to install it onto another partition as dual boot with XP, anything I should keep in mind?
[04:07] <soundray> Wapppo: check out the apt-file package
[04:07] <kennethd> Wapppo, apt-file search
[04:07] <Wapppo> thanks ;-)
[04:08] <soundray> Kezzer: avoid selecting the LVM option during install, unless you already have experience with it.
[04:08] <soundray> Kezzer: most install troubles (if any) seem to have to do with grub, so look at the wiki page:
[04:08] <blenda> how can i get firefox 1.5 to work in breezy? did anyone have success with the debian/rules in firefox-1.5rc3-source.tar.bz2?
[04:09] <soundray> !tell Kezzer about grub.
[04:09] <colm> !firefox1.5
[04:09] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:09] <sp3ed> someone know how to mount a samba system? why doesnt the command: mount -t  smbfs //ip/folder ~/mount -o username=sp3ed work???
[04:10] <rasputnik> sp3ed: you are putting the IP address where it says //ip/, right?
[04:10] <sp3ed> rasputnik: yeh
[04:10] <rasputnik> sp3ed: what's the error?
[04:11] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: easiest might me to install smb4k & then see how it mounts the fs
[04:12] <rasputnik> sp3ed: just open a nautilus window and type 'smb://ip/folder' in the location bar. easy.
[04:12] <sp3ed> rasputnik: lots of errors.. =( man why isnt there just a simple command for it?
[04:13] <sdfzx> iei can somebody give me the script of diskmounting
[04:13] <blenda> sdfzx: what script?
[04:13] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: no password there
[04:14] <teh_SS> dudes, in dapper the devie for floppy is /dev/fd/0 ?
[04:14] <caglar_> do you know a program which can download selected items from an rss?
[04:14] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: but if you want to make sure it's possible - first install smb4k & run/mount from there
[04:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell sdfzx about diskmounter
[04:14] <teh_SS> *device
[04:14] <LKRaider> anyone knows how to make XChat don't show JOINs PARTs and QUITs?
[04:14] <Frogzoo> caglar_: there's the 'sage' extension in firefox which is pretty nice
[04:15] <CraiZEAH> hey hey
[04:15] <caglar_> Frogzoo: thanks, ill have a try
[04:15] <CraiZEAH> !help ATI
[04:15] <soundray> CraiZEAH: working?
[04:15] <CraiZEAH> soundray, yeah
[04:15] <CraiZEAH> although im stuck at 60Hz on a CRT now
[04:15] <CraiZEAH> weirdly, but i think installing the driver will help :P
[04:15] <soundray> !tell CraiZEAH about fixres
[04:16] <soundray> CraiZEAH: yes, fglrx is good to have
[04:16] <teh_SS> i must install windows on a pc with Dapper in other partition and i dont want to lose my grub, so i wanted to format a floppy but i dont find /dev/fd0 just /dev/fd/0, is this last the device for the floppy in dapper?
[04:16] <CraiZEAH> yeah
[04:16] <CraiZEAH> !tell CraiZEAH about ATI
[04:16] <CraiZEAH> there are 3 links soundray
[04:16] <rasputnik> teh_SS: no, that's 'file descriptor 0' i.e. standard out
[04:16] <CraiZEAH> which one is better to be used?
[04:16] <soundray> teh_SS: it very likely is.
[04:17] <phaedral> i'm toying with the idea of going ubuntu on my new compaq laptop (presario v2000) instead of debian testing; suggestions from #ubuntu?
[04:17] <soundray> oops, thanks rasputnik
[04:17] <gnomefreak> phaedral: we are gonna pick ubuntu for that
[04:17] <rasputnik> heh no problem - good luck formatting that
[04:17] <snowblink> LKRaider, settings->advanced->text events
[04:18] <mikelo> long live ubuntu
[04:18] <LKRaider> snowblink: and I just delete the lines?
[04:18] <luis_> hola
[04:18] <teh_SS> im getting the same error when trying to access to it, /dev/fd/0 is not a valid block device, that must be an floppy disk error? i mean, its an old floppy (who has floppy this days)
[04:18] <phaedral> gnomefreak: i dig; any special gotchas on the laptop install?
[04:18] <Frogzoo> !tell phaedral about hardware
[04:18] <luis_> alguien por ahi de habla hispana
[04:18] <phaedral> Frogzoo: thanks
[04:18] <luis_> neceito ayuda
[04:18] <Frogzoo> phaedral: check the config against supported hardware
[04:18] <soundray> phaedral: if you like a bit of troubleshooting excitement, help testing dapper, the next release of ubuntu.
[04:18] <snowblink> !tell luis_ about es
[04:18] <gnomefreak> phaedral: i dont know all hardware is different
[04:18] <luis_> neceito ayuda
[04:18] <teh_SS> rasputnik: soundray thanx for both answers :D
[04:19] <mikelo> luis_, veo si puedo ayudarte
[04:19] <luis_> hola vale como estas
[04:19] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:19] <mikelo> ok
[04:19] <luis_> mi yo me estoy iniciando en linux
[04:19] <soundray> teh_SS: have you found it yet? You may have to insert a module to get the device.
[04:19] <luis_> y uso ubunto
[04:19] <mikelo> we cant talk here
[04:19] <luis_> prto no se instalar pogramas
[04:19] <tristanmike> Does anyone know how to change the language track in MPlayer ?
[04:19] <luis_> quiero instalar amule
[04:20] <luis_> y no pudo
[04:20] <luis_> puedo
[04:20] <tristanmike> !es
[04:20] <gnomefreak> luis_: /join #ubuntu-es please
[04:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <teh_SS> luis_: no esta permitido hablar en espaol aca, anda a #ubuntu-es o habla ingles aca
[04:20] <luis_> ok
[04:20] <mikelo> luis_, #ubuntu_es
[04:20] <luis_> esta bien
[04:20] <Qix> Im having trouble installing ATI linux drivers under ubuntu 5.10
[04:21] <luis_> explicamelo en ingles
[04:21] <Qix> i searhed google for the error message, not much turned up
[04:21] <Qix> root@qix:/usr/share/fglrx# aticonfig
[04:21] <Qix> aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:21] <mikelo> anybody here uses ibm laptop x40?
[04:21] <Qix> what can i do about it ?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> luis_: take it to #ubuntu-es please!
[04:21] <luis_> where do you from
[04:21] <rasputnik> Qix: you're missing a library
[04:22] <Qix> i kind of guessed that rasput
[04:22] <teh_SS> soundray: well, i see no floppy or so when doing lsmod
[04:22] <Qix> problem is, where do i get it from, and why ?
[04:22] <rasputnik> Qix: probably it's in /usr/local/lib? have a look
[04:22] <Qix> i mean, i installed the ati driver set from their site
[04:22] <Qix> ok, its there
[04:22] <Qix> so why isnt it picking it up ?
[04:22] <Qix> /usr/X11R6/lib/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0
[04:23] <Qix> its looking for libfglrx_pp.so
[04:23] <Qix> *.1
[04:23] <rasputnik> Oix: you didn't tell the dynamic linker where it is
[04:23] <soundray> teh_SS: try 'sudo modprobe floppy', check the output, and perhaps "ls -lrt /dev | tail" will give you an indication what the device name is.
[04:23] <Qix> nah, its a slightly different name ?
[04:23] <CraiZEAH> okay
[04:23] <Qix> is that the problem ?
[04:23] <jose> hola
[04:23] <mikelo> luis escribe //join #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <rasputnik> Qix: yes, that's how shared libs work , the .1 file is a symlink to .1.0
[04:23] <jose> ajuda
[04:23] <phaedral> soundray: was off reading about hardware
[04:24] <rasputnik> try adding /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running 'sudo ldconfig'
[04:24] <phaedral> not up to testing; want something easy this time ;)
[04:24] <teh_SS> soundray: tnx a lot, now i have /dev/fd0 (after modprobe floppy)
[04:24] <teh_SS> xD
[04:24] <sdfzx> thanks for the help
[04:26] <CraiZEAH> uhm, i lost the fixres link
[04:26] <teh_SS> dudes, is there a link i can read to have an idea of which modules i can load the the ubuntu kernel?
[04:26] <CraiZEAH> could some1 link to it again ?
[04:26] <soundray> !tell CraiZEAH about fixres
[04:26] <luis_> / join #ubuntu.es lo coloco en donde
[04:26] <Qix> rasputnik, tx, it worked
[04:26] <rasputnik> Qix: cool.
[04:27] <rasputnik> Qix: you'll need to do that when you build from source. add the lib/ directory to ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig
[04:27] <znoopee> me again... i tried the howto from wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI       x-server crashed again :( wtf is wrong?
[04:27] <luis_> disculpa la burrada
[04:28] <luis_> pero quiero ir donde hablen espaol
[04:28] <crybaby> luis_ I want to learn spanish
[04:29] <gnomefreak> luis_: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:29] <soundray> Guys, make yourselves a Spanish learning channel. Leave this one to Ubuntu support in English please.
[04:29] <teh_SS> luis_: tipea "/j #ubuntu-es" en el lugar donde tipeas los mensajes (sin las comillas)
[04:29] <Frogzoo> znoopee: xserver crashed, or monitor freaked out?
[04:30] <luis_> ok
[04:30] <sp3ed> Please i have spent all day trying to do this. The command: smbclient //192.168.0.32/shared -U sp3ed works perfectly but i cant get the mount commands 2 work! i have read all there is to read! please!
[04:30] <teh_SS> excuse for the spanish, just instructions for luis to join ubuntu-es
[04:30] <soundray> teh_SS: thanks.
[04:30] <znoopee> x-server didnt start, just got some not clearly readable error message
[04:30] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: have you tried installing smb4k ???
[04:30] <rasputnik> sp3ed: HAVE YOU TRIED NAUTILUS ??
[04:30] <sp3ed> no i want to use the mount commands
[04:31] <luis_> / join #ubuntu-es
[04:31] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: but an automated tool will prove the fs is mountable - then figure the fstab entry
[04:31] <rasputnik> you need to tell us the errors then really
[04:32] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[04:32] <luis_> " j #ubuntu-es"
[04:32] <CraiZEAH> i brb hoping it fixed itself :P
[04:34] <gnomefreak> someone that speaks spanish tell luis_ the /join are together not seprate
[04:34] <gnomefreak> please
[04:34] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[04:34] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, I am a newbie, can anyone help me install a program?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> tuxedo_kamen: what program
[04:35] <Kyral> !synaptic
[04:35] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:35] <tuxedo_kamen> vmware tools
[04:35] <Kyral> !apt-get
[04:35] <crybaby> luis_ tienes que hacer / join unbuntu-es . pero entre la / i join no tiene que tener un espacio
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[04:35] <Kyral> nevermind
[04:35] <crybaby> gnomefreak: I have tried
[04:35] <gnomefreak> ty crybaby
[04:35] <znoopee> Frogzoo: any idea why x-server does not like fgrlx?
[04:35] <tuxedo_kamen> I have an RPM and a TGZ
[04:35] <gnomefreak> i dont think vmware is in the repos
[04:36] <rasputnik> tuxedo_kamen: then you want the tgz
[04:36] <gnomefreak> tuxedo_kamen: you will want to use the tgz
[04:36] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[04:36] <tuxedo_kamen> and how can I install it?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> tuxedo_kamen: its a long process
[04:36] <Frogzoo> sp3ed: guess what - man mount says smbfs is not supported - you need to use smbmount
[04:36] <snowblink> tuxedo_kamen, search the forums. IIRC there is something about patching vmware tools first...
[04:36] <rasputnik> tuxedo_kamen: it's like a zipfile. it'll probably have a long boring readme.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> unpack the tar configure make than make install
[04:37] <michal_y> is there 'safe mode' in ubuntu? i messed my xorg.conf i my laptop just hangs when loading x-server, please help
[04:37] <gnomefreak> or checkinstall is better than make install
[04:37] <rasputnik> Frogzoo: if only there had been some kind of errors to warn us :)
[04:37] <soundray> michal_y: can you switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1
[04:37] <soundray> ?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> michal_y: yes boot to the kernel i cant think of what the name is off hand
[04:37] <michal_y> no :(
[04:38] <rasputnik> michal_y: you killed your virtual terminals? how did you manage that?
[04:38] <soundray> michal_y: then you should watch the boot messages. Hit Esc to get the grub menu, select the recovery kernel (probably the second one down).
[04:38] <michal_y> ok i am trying
[04:39] <gnomefreak> lol rasputnik if i had to guess we dont wanna know how he did it :(
[04:39] <lafferpt> what packages do I need to install to start coding in python?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> but we all make fun mistakes like that
[04:39] <soundray> michal_y: you will get to a root shell where you can re-run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:39] <CraiZE> hmm, fixres doesnt help :S
[04:39] <rasputnik> gnomefreak: don't worry, soundray will save him.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> lafferpt: use synaptic there are a ton of them but you should already have everything you need
[04:40] <CraiZE> anyhow, how can i check if 3D Acceleration is working?
[04:40] <znoopee> damn linux >< ill reboot to windows now where i just download and run driver-installation.exe and everything working fine -.-
[04:40] <michal_y> soundray: i swithed to ctrl+alt+f1 during boot messages but it is trying to load gnome anyway
[04:40] <lafferpt> gnomefreak, ok tks
[04:40] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: glxgears -printfps
[04:40] <CraiZE> thx
[04:40] <tuxedo_kamen> but can anyone please help me installing this?
[04:41] <CraiZE> it doesnt show the FPS
[04:41] <CraiZE> oh
[04:41] <CraiZE> it does
[04:41] <mikelo> anybody here uses ibm laptop x40?
[04:41] <CraiZE> 7000
[04:41] <CraiZE> is that good?
[04:41] <soundray> michal_y: select the recovery kernel from the grub menu, very early in the boot process.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: welcome to 3d if that is the last number on the line
[04:41] <teh_SS> soundray: tnx for your assitance, im off now, bytes
[04:41] <CraiZE> 35389 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7077.693 FPS
[04:42] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: welcome to 3d :)
[04:42] <michal_y> soundray: thx, booting the recorvery kernel now...
[04:42] <snowblink> tuxedo_kamen, what part are you stuck on?
[04:42] <CraiZE> thx
[04:42] <CraiZE> now i heard about this new Desktop on digg.com
[04:42] <CraiZE> what is it called again?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> snowblink: he doesnt know hot o compile it
[04:42] <CraiZE> i wanted to try that one out :)
[04:42] <gnomefreak> s/hot o/how to
[04:42] <rasputnik> tuxedo_kamen: it's a world of pain. search for vmware on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:42] <rasputnik> tuxedo_kamen: and may god have mercy on your black soul.
[04:42] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: do you have dapper or breezy
[04:42] <Frogzoo> so sp3ed: you need something like:  sudo smbmount //aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd /mnt -o username=###,password=###
[04:42] <CraiZE> i got breezy
[04:42] <CraiZE> i think
[04:43] <CraiZE> 5.10
[04:43] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: you dont get to play with xgl
[04:43] <jeremy1> hello everyone, I have a question. How do i get my ubuntu to startup into firefox
[04:43] <CraiZE> i dont?!
[04:43] <CraiZE> why not?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: its not worth it
[04:43] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[04:43] <michal_y> soundray: thanks you all for help, i have prompt, i know what to do next, thanks again ;)
[04:43] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:43] <CraiZE> it looked nifty
[04:43] <FiNeX> hi!
[04:43] <lucaaas> something stole a lot of space just now, i have no idea what, any ideas?
[04:43] <CraiZE> can i convert breezy to dapper?
[04:44] <lucaaas> cupsd was using lots of cpu%
[04:44] <Frogzoo> jeremy1: just put firefox in ~/.gnomerc ?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: yes but dapper is still in testing and may break (upgrade has good chance of breaking)
[04:44] <CraiZE> well
[04:44] <CraiZE> i still want to try
[04:44] <CraiZE> how would i go about upgrading to dapper?
[04:44] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[04:44] <rasputnik> jeremy1: system -> prefs -> sessions. there's a startup items tab
[04:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[04:45] <CraiZE> this is a "for fun" linux install :P
[04:45] <jeremy1> Frogzoo: can start ubuntu with minimim resources and use firefox alone
[04:45] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: change your sources list from breezy to dapper sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:45] <soundray> CraiZE: dapper is great fun. I would install from scratch, though.
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ^^^use the upgrader
[04:45] <lucaaas> CraiZE, change breezy to dapper in sources.list and do a apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[04:45] <CraiZE> well where is sources.list?
[04:46] <lucaaas> /etc/apt/
[04:46] <Frogzoo> jeremy1: with some fiddling, anything's possible
[04:46] <sp3ed> Frogzoo: sudo smbmount gives "unknow command"
[04:46] <CraiZE> i just change the line on top
[04:46] <CraiZE> that Says _Breezy Badger_
[04:46] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: either burn the iso or use the upgrader
[04:46] <CraiZE> to Dapper ?
[04:46] <jeremy1> What I want to do is use the web-browser as the main screen when the system is started
[04:46] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: ^^^ read above
[04:47] <rasputnik> CraiZE: no, look at the lines that start 'deb' - change the breezy in there to dapper
[04:47] <CraiZE> well i am confused :(
[04:47] <soundray> sp3ed: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:47] <jeremy1> I dont want any other stuff to take resources and make the system slow
[04:47] <rasputnik> CraiZE: being confused is natures way of telling you you're about to screw up your system
[04:47] <CraiZE> i dont mind screwing it up
[04:48] <MasterC> who is responsible for the german localisation?
[04:48] <CraiZE> so where can i download the ISO
[04:48] <pulsar84> Hi.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: we are not allowed to help screw up your system tho
[04:48] <CraiZE> i jsut do the install from scratch then :)
[04:48] <rasputnik> jeremy1: just use a different window manager. ratpoison is about as minimal as it gets
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:48] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[04:48] <rasputnik> CraiZE: see subject of the channel
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !dailybuild
[04:48] <ubotu> Dapper daily build CD images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[04:48] <MasterC> the gksu german local in dapper has an error
[04:48] <CraiZE> okay
[04:48] <CraiZE> leeching it
[04:49] <MasterC> it says "Bitts.....", but it have to be "Bitte..."
[04:49] <gnomefreak> MasterC: dapper related issues please join #ubuntu+1
[04:49] <MasterC> okay
[04:49] <CraiZE> so after i install from scratch
[04:49] <CraiZE> i am able to use glx ?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: no
[04:50] <me2win> xgl you mean?
[04:50] <soundray> CraiZE: glx != xgl
[04:50] <CraiZE> yeah , dang
[04:50] <soundray> !xgl
[04:50] <CraiZE> sorry
[04:50] <gnomefreak> you have to install it and get your 3d back
[04:50] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:50] <CraiZE> yah getting the 3D was alright with the tutorial the !tell bot gave me
[04:50] <jeremy1> Frogzoo rasputnik: What do you mean on a diffrent window manager
[04:51] <rasputnik> jeremy1: instead of gnome. gnome is enormous
[04:51] <CraiZE> xgl looked like alot of fun to me!
[04:51] <CraiZE> yeah
[04:51] <CraiZE> if it doesnt, fuck it ;)
[04:51] <CraiZE> its not the end of the world
[04:51] <CraiZE> i want to try it
[04:51] <Seveas> CraiZE, language...
[04:51] <me2win> remember to get fglrx first
[04:51] <me2win> !fglrx
[04:51] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <soundray> CraiZE: you're not allowed to use profanity in here.
[04:51] <CraiZE> sorry, i didnt mean it in a bad way at all though
[04:52] <jeremy1> Frogzoo rasputnik: ok but I want to start the system without a login screen and start a web-browser instead
[04:52] <soundray> CraiZE: the polite word is "intercourse" ;)
[04:52] <CraiZE> it was just to demonstrate how little i would care if it wouldn't work :)
[04:52] <Frogzoo> soundray: f**k isn't profane but obscene
[04:52] <CraiZE> alright, well off to the dentist
[04:52] <soundray> Frogzoo: oh. Off to answers.com to learn about the difference...
[04:52] <CraiZE> thanks guys
[04:53] <rasputnik> jeremy1: you're going to need a window manager to do most things. there's an auto-login option on gdm somewhere
[04:54] <snowblink> Frogzoo, of course it is profane.
[04:54] <jeremy1> rasputnik: oh I see, So is there a way of making it minimal as possible and just use the web-browser
[04:54] <soundray> Frogzoo: I think it is both profane and obscene, and I object to it because of its profanity more than because of its obscenity.
[04:54] <eth42> hi! is it possible to reassign a menu-item shortcut in a gtk application? (I think it was at some point...)
[04:54] <chuckyp> rasputnik, bah need a wm no you don't
[04:55] <rasputnik> jeremy1: yes, you just tell X to start firefox. put 'exec firefox' in ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession
[04:55] <snowblink> jeremy1, you want a kiosk type function?
[04:55] <rasputnik> chuckyp: If you don't know what one is, you probably do.
[04:55] <chuckyp> rasputnik, lol
[04:56] <diskodave> can anyone make any sense of http://pastebin.com/601433 ?
[04:56] <interneti> how do I remedy this? http://pastebin.com/601423 : using ubuntu breezy if that helps
[04:56] <jeremy1> rasputnik: can you explain it step by step, cos I want to get it up
[04:56] <Frogzoo> soundray: answers.com has it wrong - profane always carries a religious connotation
[04:56] <snowblink> Frogzoo, check a dictionary
[04:56] <jeremy1> snowblink: Ya sort of
[04:56] <lucaaas> evilness, /var/log/cups/access_log is 2.4gb
[04:57] <aku> Hi people
[04:57] <rasputnik> jeremy1: not in IRC really. as others said, just google for kiosk howtos
[04:57] <gnomefreak> diskodave: what are you tryign to do?
[04:57] <jeremy1> rasputnik: ok I'll do that
[04:57] <jeremy1> rasputnik: You maybe know of website or wiki pages
[04:58] <aku> ey someone knows why my video and sound arent sincroniced
[04:58] <diskodave> gnomefreak: was doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy (but it hasnt completed and apt is seemingly wedged like this http://pastebin.com/601433 )
[04:58] <rasputnik> jeremy1: i've done it recently (with about 200 diskless clients) and it's fairly straightforward
[04:58] <chuckyp> jeremy1, ifyou just configure the session and set it to auto login and put whatever apps you want to auto launch in .gnomerc you should be good to go.
[04:59] <gnomefreak> diskodave: when you run dist-upgrade what does it say?
[04:59] <soundray> Frogzoo: even if I accept that, I consider the subject matter sacred enough to object to the word we are discussing.
[04:59] <Frogzoo> snowblink: soundray: I stand corrected - thanks
[04:59] <jeremy1> chuckyp: Wont that start other programs in the background and eat performance power
[04:59] <gnomefreak> diskodave: also do me a favor and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin please
[05:00] <Kezzer> I can't get X server to start at all, I can't even configure it. I'm using 64-bit version of Ubuntu and the error says "Fatal server error: No screens found"
[05:00] <Kezzer> could this be an ATI problem?
[05:00] <soundray> jeremy1: for a minimal-footprint system, Ubuntu is not the best distribution.
[05:00] <chuckyp> jeremy1, well you could just start an X server and then launch the apps you wanted without gnome
[05:01] <webex> how can i get "smbfs" whats it used for?
[05:01] <chuckyp> soundray, it can be as minimal as any, where do you guys get this stuff?  Do you make it up as you go along?  Or are you reading it from a book?
[05:01] <chuckyp> webex, what are you trying to do?
[05:01] <rasputnik> webex: if you don't know what it's for, why do you want it ??
[05:02] <soundray> chuckyp, you've misread me, and why the aggression?
[05:02] <Frogzoo> webex: it's used for mounting windows server file systems
[05:02] <Frogzoo> webex: or samba servers, for that matter
[05:02] <pulsar84> I've got strange problems related to wxWidgets and/or GTK-1.2 font-sizes. I think it's something about my dpi settings. Has anyone ideas how to fix it? See http://pulsar.lart.info/vlc.png for a screenshot of wxvlc.
[05:02] <chuckyp> soundray, No aggression just tired.
[05:02] <diskodave> gnomefreak: thanks! all additional stuff is now here http://pastebin.com/601451
[05:02] <soundray> chuckyp: the point is not that ubuntu *cannot* be minimal, but that there are other projects out there that are better suited for a minimal-footprint system.
[05:03] <Manano> hi everybody
[05:03] <diskodave> gnomefreak: i think my apt/sources.list is exactly as the breezy upgrade webpage had it ... i just pasted in the replacement exactly as they gave it
[05:03] <Manano> con i make some question about ubuntu???
[05:03] <_jason> Manano: sure just ask, no need to ask for permission
[05:03] <webex> Frogzoo, i want to mount my samba share in this ubuntu computer and all the books talks about "smbfs" and "smbmount" cant find the commands..
[05:03] <soundray> Manano: that's what this channel is for.
[05:04] <gnomefreak> diskodave: you need to make sure none of the deb lines have a # infront of them
[05:04] <Manano> okie thkx
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> Hey,  I need to mount my fat32 partition read/write - and I forgot how - anyone know?
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> it's the fstab line I need
[05:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell Cyorxamp about vfat
[05:04] <chuckyp> soundray, i dunno my fealing on it lately is all linux distros are getting closer and closer together.  I really don't care whihc distro i'm running anymore.  There is no longer a need ot roll your own kernel with modules being loaded and unloaded etc... I dunno i'm tired.
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> I don't want some program _jason
[05:04] <Manano> I want to access Windows share folder but I con not
[05:04] <Cyorxamp> Just 'the line'
[05:04] <chuckyp> !tell Manano about ntfs
[05:04] <_jason> Cyorxamp: scroll towards the middle of the page
[05:04] <Manano> do you show me plz??
[05:05] <Manano> yess
[05:05] <chuckyp> Manano, read the message ubotu sent you
[05:05] <Manano> wait me 1m
[05:05] <_jason> Cyorxamp: I'm referring to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions by the way
[05:05] <diskodave> gnomefreak: all clear as far as i can see
[05:06] <Manano> uhm I using ubuntu throught VMWare
[05:06] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, huh?
[05:06] <gnomefreak> diskodave: i hate to say this but the best thing to do is go back to old sources.list and sudo sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox than change the sources.list again and run dist-upgrade (this will fix it for sure)
[05:06] <diskodave> gnomefreak: grep deb /etc/apt/sources.list | grep '#'     returns no output
[05:06] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: ?
[05:06] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, whats he trying to do?
[05:06] <rasputnik> Manano: so you want to mount files from your windows computer into the VM?
[05:06] <gnomefreak> diskodave: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will give you the list im not sure on how to grep for it
[05:06] <diskodave> gnomefreak: ok .. no problem if its a pain .. its all less of a pain than a reinstall from ISO!
[05:07] <diskodave> chuckyp: just a dist-upgrade to breezy but its well stuck http://pastebin.com/601451
[05:07] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: upgrade to breezy but looks more like a dapper upgrade by the ff depends issues
[05:07] <Manano> yes ro the same work
[05:07] <rasputnik> Manano: then you probably want to use samba.
[05:07] <gnomefreak> or hes running ff1.5 on hoary
[05:08] <Manano> now I want to access the window share folder
[05:08] <chuckyp> !tell Manano about samba
[05:08] <Manano> It request the authentication
[05:08] <Manano> yess plz
[05:09] <chuckyp> Manano, again read what ubotu said
[05:09] <Manano> when I acess the share resource
[05:09] <redondos> Hello. After a reboot, I had to run fsck on my / partition (unmounted), when that finished, every file (and I mean *every* file) went into /lost+found. On reiserfs you have the --rebuild-tree argument for fsck, but what for ext3? Any suggestions, please?
[05:10] <interneti> how do I remedy this? http://pastebin.com/601423 : using ubuntu breezy if that helps....
[05:10] <diskodave> gnomefreak: ok i've put my apt/sources.list back to warty and i'm doing to sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox ... hopefully that gets this mess untangled :) thanks!
[05:10] <gnomefreak> diskodave: ahhhhhhhhhh
[05:10] <Manano> Sorry about problem
[05:11] <gnomefreak> diskodave: you need to go from warty to hoary than to breezy
[05:11] <Manano> when I access the share resource
[05:11] <interneti> so there is not one person who has has a similar problem (http://pastebin.com/601423)
[05:11] <Manano> It display : You must log in to access 192.168.133.128
[05:12] <Manano> and request me username, domain, pass
[05:12] <rasputnik> interneti: nope. it tells you whats up though, you need to tell it where the library is
[05:12] <diskodave> gnomefreak: oops .. my bad... i meant hoary all along! false alarm sorry
[05:12] <TuxMeister> hey guys
[05:12] <rasputnik> we don't know what they should be Manano
[05:12] <chuckyp> Manano, is there a password on the share
[05:12] <Manano> no
[05:13] <Manano> i have not set password on it
[05:13] <TuxMeister> could anybody tell where can i find a supported hard list for ubuntu's latest version? i have certain problems makin' a wifi pc-card work under linux
[05:13] <zipper> !upgrade
[05:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:13] <interneti> rasputnik: what would linux be if it wasnt occasionally a pain in the ass
[05:14] <rasputnik> interneti: osx. hahahahahahaha
[05:14] <mustard5> interneti, tried installing libebook1.2-dev ?
[05:14] <Manano> can U help me
[05:14] <Manano> ???
[05:14] <Manano> Rasputnik & chuckyp
[05:15] <aeolist> i just ran readcd -clone bla-bla and it created a .raw and a .raw.toc! exceptional! but how do i burn them now? i cant treat it like an .iso, can i?
[05:15] <LKRaider> any way of restoring sudo capabilities without resorting to a livecd?
[05:15] <rasputnik> Manano: no, sorry - don't know the first thing about setting up shares from windows
[05:15] <Jemt> !remaster
[05:15] <ubotu> Jemt: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:15] <Jemt> !remastering
[05:15] <ubotu> Jemt: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:15] <mustard5> LKRaider, recovery mode at grub
[05:15] <Jemt> Is there any information on remastering Ubuntu available?
[05:15] <LKRaider> mustard5: okay, thanks :)
[05:15] <defrysk> aeolist, cdrdao write blah.toc ?
[05:15] <chuckyp> Manano, and what happens when you leave it blank and did you read the link I sent?
[05:15] <aeolist> sounds like a plan defrysk
[05:16] <interneti> lol rasputnik
[05:16] <defrysk> aeolist, works with .cue so also might work with .toc
[05:18] <valic> hola
[05:18] <javiolo> !es
[05:18] <valic> hay algun chileno
[05:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <valic> okXD
[05:18] <rasputnik> yuk. dapper has a horrible windows progress bar when it loads the kernel
[05:18] <feresmo> hi people
[05:18] <defrysk> Raskall, horrible ?
[05:18] <mustard5> greetings feresmo
[05:19] <interneti> rasputnik is dapper stable enough at this point to upgrade to?
[05:19] <defrysk> rasputnik, I mean
[05:19] <katz0r> hi, i was looking forward for the new composition manager in metacity 2.14, however todays update did not change anything (visually)...where did it go?
[05:19] <soop> i've been using dapper for a while now
[05:19] <soop> it seems fine
[05:19] <soop> no issues
[05:19] <rasputnik> interneti: it's stable enough to boot as far as dhcp config from the install cd. more news as i get it.
[05:19] <Manano> chuckyp, I don't recieve any link
[05:19] <Manano> send me again plz!!!
[05:20] <chuckyp> !tell Manano about samba
[05:20] <chuckyp> Manano, read the link that ubotu is sending you
[05:20] <crimsun> katz0r: you don't happen to actually read the changelogs, do you?
[05:20] <Paper> where can i find good repositories for breezy ?
[05:20] <chuckyp> Paper, what do you mena good?
[05:20] <defrysk> !repository
[05:20] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[05:20] <chuckyp> Paper, the official ones?
[05:20] <defrysk> !repo
[05:20] <feresmo> va o no va
[05:20] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[05:20] <chuckyp> !repos
[05:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:20] <crimsun> katz0r: in 1:2.13.144-0ubuntu1, note: "..Compositor improvements [remember, still off by default] .."
[05:20] <defrysk> dang:s
[05:20] <feresmo> alguien habla espaol?????
[05:20] <Paper> chuckyp: not necessarely
[05:20] <crimsun> feresmo: #ubuntu-es
[05:20] <chuckyp> feresmo, #ubuntu-es
[05:20] <Paper> !repos
[05:21] <chuckyp> Paper, well then what do you mean?
[05:21] <feresmo> how can i get there
[05:21] <feresmo> ???
[05:21] <Paper> ones with alot of different things
[05:21] <feresmo> to -es
[05:21] <soop> type /j #ubuntu-es
[05:21] <feresmo> where
[05:21] <feresmo> ???
[05:21] <soop> where you are typing now
[05:22] <feresmo_> feresmo is more gay than elton john
[05:22] <soop> hrm no version response from him
[05:22] <feresmo_> ey
[05:22] <feresmo> ok
[05:22] <feresmo> thx
[05:22] <Dr34mC0d3r> im running ubuntu - but i dont remember if i installed 5.04 or 5.11 - from a command line - how can i tell?
[05:22] <Dr34mC0d3r> 5.10 - oops
[05:22] <chuckyp> Dr34mC0d3r, uname -r
[05:22] <defrysk>  cat /etc/issue
[05:23] <chuckyp> yeah that would work better
[05:23] <soop> uthat gives you your kernel
[05:23] <Dr34mC0d3r> thanks
[05:23] <chalcedony> i'm trying to view a PDF.. i'm getting an error message. Google let me view it as html no problem, but part of one page is missing and I want to access the PDF to see if that error exists there.
[05:23] <feresmo_> eyyyyyyy
[05:23] <soop> i mean the uname -r
[05:23] <feresmo_> holaaaaa adriii
[05:23] <defrysk>  /exec cat /etc/issue
[05:23] <Symok> Hmm
[05:23] <feresmo> si si
[05:24] <feresmo> hola ferrannnnnn
[05:24] <feresmo_> adri gay
[05:24] <feresmo_> funciona??
[05:24] <chuckyp> !spanish
[05:24] <ubotu> chuckyp: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:24] <chuckyp> !espanol
[05:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[05:24] <_jason> !es
[05:24] <defrysk> !es
[05:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:24] <feresmo_> spanishh a sakoo
[05:24] <Symok> Can someone please tell me how to determine which items under /dev/ my other partitions would be located in?
[05:24] <javiolo> try lsb_release -a
[05:24] <feresmo>  / j #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <tahooie> Question: My monitor docs say my monitor can do 1920 x 1440 @   73Hz, but the dropdown in view resolution only goes up to 60Hz at the max res. Does anyone know where I can set this? I've been running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and have tried nearly every combination of options I can think of, and this usually just makes the monitor say 'frequency out of range' when I restart gdm. I'm running breezy. Any ideas?
[05:24] <javiolo> Dr34
[05:24] <chuckyp> Symok, fdisk -l
[05:24] <chalcedony> there is no #Evince .. where to ask about problems with PDFs ?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> feresmo: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:25] <aeolist> what's your problem soldier?
[05:25] <chuckyp> Symok, sudo fdisk -l
[05:25] <defrysk> without the space
[05:25] <javiolo> Dr34mC0d3r lsb_release -a
[05:25] <feresmo_> hey  cacho gays
[05:25] <chalcedony> wb b33r
[05:25] <Dr34mC0d3r> javiolo - thanks
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tahooie  about fixres
[05:26] <mustard5> tahooie, one second..I'll get a good link for you
[05:26] <tahooie> thanks!
[05:26] <izmaelis> why should I disable Gnome system sounds as it is told in Ubuntu Guide (or after applying Automatix)?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> izmaelis: dont use automatix
[05:26] <gnomefreak> dont use ubuntuguide
[05:26] <rasputnik> izmaelis: so other people in the office don't stab you to death with pencils
[05:26] <chalcedony> i'm serious about needing help with this PDF thing.
[05:26] <crimsun> izmaelis: it's an outdated recommendation, but some games require direct /dev/dsp access, which system sounds (or any other sounds) block
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell izmaelis about automatix
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell izmaelis about ubuntuguide
[05:27] <diskodave> gnomefreak: hoary 'apt-get install -f' is doing lots of things ... hopefully this fixes my half-breeze dependancy issues ...
[05:27] <chalcedony> hello Blame
[05:27] <defrysk> ubotu slap izmaelis with automatix
[05:27] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[05:27] <Blame> hello
[05:27] <crimsun> izmaelis: if you're playing SDL games, you should install libsdl1.2debian-alsa if it's not installed
[05:27] <Symok> Thnx. I remember reading/hearing a whileback that Linux can read from NTFS but can't write to it, is this still the case ?
[05:27] <pulsar84> chalcedony: So what exactly is your problem about PDFs?
[05:28] <katz0r> crimsun: k, thx
[05:28] <chalcedony> pulsar84: can you see #flood ?
[05:28] <chalcedony> i'll paste the error msg
[05:28] <izmaelis> ok, so I don't use Automatix or UbuntuGuide, but why I can get sound work properly on older machine
[05:28] <pulsar84> Symok: It's still like... let's say russian roulette to write on NTFS, although it's theoretically possible to write if you don't change file sizes.
[05:28] <diskodave> Symok: you can write files in situe too but, list i heard, making new files (or growing existing ones) was still a bad idea
[05:29] <chuckyp> !tell izmaelis about sound
[05:29] <mz_work> Symok: linux can write to ntfs w/ captive
[05:29] <pulsar84> chalcedony: Do.
[05:29] <pAKOWOWO> OYE ESE FERESMO TE HA LLLAMADO ADRI, FERESMO?????
[05:29] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:29] <crimsun> pAKOWOWO: dude...
[05:29] <katz0r> !tell katz0r about sound
[05:29] <chuckyp> !tell pAKOWOWO about es
[05:29] <defrysk> methings there is some spanish troll active here ;p
[05:29] <chuckyp> lol
[05:29] <Symok> Three answers from three users... ~_~;;
[05:29] <defrysk> spanish troll spanish troll
[05:29] <chuckyp> si
[05:29] <gnomefreak> defrysk: i think it is
[05:29] <Symok> all different
[05:30] <pAKOWOWO> oye feresmo!!!!
[05:30] <gnomefreak> thats either it or es
[05:30] <pAKOWOWO> OYE FERESMO EREES FERNANDO?????
[05:30] <gnomefreak> pAKOWOWO: italian or spanish?
[05:30] <pAKOWOWO> spanihs
[05:30] <chuckyp> odele vatos
[05:30] <pAKOWOWO> why??
[05:30] <gnomefreak> pAKOWOWO: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> yes i know
[05:31] <Nembutal> boah
[05:31] <chuckyp> tu madre es un queso pera
[05:31] <gnomefreak> pAKOWOWO: because this is an english only channel
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> only??
[05:31] <Nembutal> why do you talk spanish in an eglish channel?
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> no no
[05:31] <gnomefreak> only!!!!!!1
[05:31] <defrysk> geez
[05:31] <Nembutal> this is not america
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> why not?
[05:31] <chuckyp> si engles
[05:31] <defrysk> whats geez in spanish ?
[05:31] <Symok> Ill just keep my Fat32 exchange drive, then
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> why not??
[05:31] <chuckyp> defrysk, jesus
[05:31] <crimsun> pAKOWOWO: this is an English-only channel, yes.
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> only??
[05:31] <defrysk> lol chuckyp
[05:31] <gnomefreak> i know a few words in spanish but cant spell them
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> why?
[05:31] <chuckyp> pAKOWOWO, Yes only
[05:31] <pAKOWOWO> spanglish
[05:31] <crimsun> pAKOWOWO: there exist localised channels like #ubuntu-es
[05:32] <gnomefreak> can we get some help for pAKOWOWO please/
[05:32] <defrysk> gnomefreak, I only know spanish gestures
[05:32] <chuckyp> !ops
[05:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:32] <b33r> how can I login as root in terminal?
[05:32] <diskodave> gnomefreak: right 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox' in hoary worked so im heading back to breezy now ;) 2nd time lucky
[05:32] <Seveas> chuckyp, ?
[05:32] <chuckyp> pAKOWOWO,
[05:32] <rasputnik> b33r: sudo -i
[05:32] <defrysk> !tel b33r about sudo
[05:32] <pAKOWOWO> what kind of help????'
[05:32] <ubotu> defrysk: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell b33r about root
[05:32] <defrysk> !tell b33r about sudo
[05:32] <b33r> ty
[05:32] <b33r> :)
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ty we have had a crap load of spanish come in here not wanting to go to ubuntu-es
[05:33] <tatters>  If two different online port scanners give me the all green no pen ports, yet ppl can connect to my server port 443 from outside my network basically is this setup correctly or am I getting an erroneous reults possibly ?
[05:33] <chuckyp> and then they proceed to ask why this is an english only channel just hanging here trolling
[05:33] <gnomefreak> that make 4 or 5 in last 1hr
[05:33] <javiolo> crap load of spanish ?
[05:33] <chuckyp> tatters, 443?
[05:33] <tatters> ssl
[05:33] <gnomefreak> spanish only speakers
[05:33] <Steve^> Why is Num Lock not automatically enabled when I start Ubuntu and how can I change it?
[05:33] <defrysk> javiolo, spanish trolls
[05:34] <p01n7> tatters, use nmap
[05:34] <chuckyp> tatters, did you want to shut that down?  I'm not under standing your question?
[05:34] <javiolo> ok..
[05:34] <mustard5> Steve44, install numlockx in synaptic
[05:34] <mz_work> Symok: captive uses winxp drivers to write to ntfs - captive-install-acquire can even do this for you if you mount up your ntfs partition
[05:34] <gnomefreak> Steve^: if it was it would be too much like windows?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:34] <rasputnik> tatters: what does 'netstat -pant|grep 443' say?
[05:34] <Symok> Is the root password created by default? I wasn't prompted to enter one when i was installing ...
[05:34] <gnomefreak> Symok: sudo not su
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Symok about root
[05:34] <defrysk> !tell Symok about sudo
[05:34] <rasputnik> Steve^: i think there's a button you have to press.....
[05:34] <chuckyp> argh beet me to it.
[05:34] <Steve^> gnomefreak, that would make it too user friendly in this case
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:34] <mz_work> !tell mzilikazi about root
[05:34] <mz_work> !tell mz_work about root
[05:35] <Symok> Thanks
[05:35] <defrysk> tell everyone about everything!
[05:35] <gnomefreak> Steve^: in your help icon it tells you how to do it very very easy
[05:35] <Steve^> rasputnik, why press it everytime i log in, when there is never a reason for it to be off (for me)?
[05:35] <_jason> everyone: 42
[05:35] <rasputnik> Steve^: well if you're too lazy, i can't help :)
[05:35] <tatters> well I cannot shell into box everything is shutdown  and its running headless :/
[05:35] <chuckyp> tatters, ssh is disabled on default install
[05:36] <chuckyp> tatters, err not listening atleast
[05:36] <White_Pride> Does anyone know how to set up a http-server on ubuntu???
[05:36] <mustard5> Steve^, install numlockx problem solved
[05:36] <chuckyp> !tell White_Pride about lamp
[05:36] <fell_> salut
[05:36] <gnomefreak> mustard5: still have to add it to script
[05:36] <b33r> how can I install yahoo messenger on linux?
[05:36] <rasputnik> tatters: are you using some kind of proxy? maybe that runs https and you don't
[05:36] <defrysk> b33r, try gaim
[05:36] <White_Pride> I dont understand lamp...
[05:36] <gnomefreak> b33r: you dont want to use gaim
[05:36] <rasputnik> White_Pride: that's an...interesting nick
[05:36] <chuckyp> !tell b33r about gaim
[05:36] <Steve^> gnomefreak, does this help happen to have a search function?
[05:36] <_jason> White_Pride: which part don't you understand?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ok wait
[05:36] <mz_work> user is given root privaleges in ubuntu? omg that can't be good
[05:37] <chuckyp> White_Pride, can you not read?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> you dont want to!!!! use gaim
[05:37] <chuckyp> White_Pride, lamp= linux apache mysql and php install
[05:37] <fell_> comment sa vas
[05:37] <_jason> mz_work: the first user created during the isntall is given sudo
[05:37] <rasputnik> mz_work: no, it uses sudo
[05:37] <defrysk> !fr
[05:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:37] <gnomefreak> Steve^: use the starter guide in your help icon
[05:37] <chuckyp> White_Pride, if you just want apache just sudo apt-get install apache2
[05:37] <fell_> salut
[05:37] <White_Pride> I dont understand how to install... I have never used linux before, until yesterday...
[05:37] <chuckyp> salut
[05:37] <fell_> salutcomment as  vas
[05:37] <chuckyp> White_Pride, well read the apache2 part of the wiki
[05:38] <mz_work> but the guide says "installer will setup sudo to allow the user that is created during install to run all administrative commands."
[05:38] <chuckyp> White_Pride, just read the message ubotu sent you it has a link to read.
[05:38] <mz_work> so what can the user NOT do?
[05:38] <White_Pride> okey, ill try that... thnx
[05:38] <chuckyp> mz_work, yes
[05:38] <thomas__> #ubuntu-meeting
[05:38] <chuckyp> mz_work, user can do everything with sudo
[05:38] <chuckyp> mz_work, root account is locked by default
[05:38] <mz_work> and you don't thin that's dangerous?
[05:38] <Goldfisch> mz_work: User is put into a group that has sudo privileges (which can later be adjusted, if necessary).
[05:38] <mz_work> think
[05:38] <chuckyp> mz_work, no
[05:39] <rasputnik> mz_work: do you know what sudo does? cos if not, this is a bit pointless
[05:39] <_jason> mz_work: why is it dangerous?
[05:39] <mz_work> well why should user be allowed to issue commands as root?
[05:39] <tatters> I have the server setup in the DMZ on my router , a scan from from one of my other boxes reveals from grc.com no open ports, I use dynds to turn my public IP into a name https;??myweb.com  when ppl type e myweb on any box outside my network they can connect
[05:39] <Steve^> sure saves me time
[05:39] <defrysk> mz_work, only the main user account can use sudo other account cannot by default , unles you change the defaults
[05:39] <chuckyp> mz_work, if you don't like it you can sudo passwd give root a password and then /etc/sudo/sudoers and remove  the user fromt he file.  Then it will go back to the way your used to.
[05:39] <gnomefreak> mz_work: read the wiki ubotu sent you when you asked him too it explains it pretty clearly
[05:39] <Goldfisch> mz_work: Every command run through sudo gets logged to /var/log/auth.log. That is a better audit trail than su'ing to become root, and then doing whatever.
[05:40] <Seveas> Goldfisch, hint: sudo -i ;)
[05:40] <Steve^> and when the user is the root, it is easier
[05:40] <chuckyp> mz_work, the primary user can issue commands as root.
[05:40] <Moe|Joe> hey people
[05:40] <zlatan58> g
[05:40] <Goldfisch> Yo, Moe|Joe
[05:40] <Moe|Joe> anyone know the link for the ubuntu starter guide?
[05:40] <Moe|Joe> i cant seem to find it
[05:40] <chuckyp> !guide
[05:40] <ubotu> chuckyp: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:40] <gnomefreak> Moe|Joe: your help icon
[05:40] <ilgufo> hi
[05:40] <rasputnik> Moe|Joe: it burnt down
[05:40] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[05:40] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:41] <Blippe> i'm on a breezy live and are able to ping a local computer 2, but not ssh... ssh to remote from comp2 to remote and ssh back to comp2 is succesful.
[05:41] <rasputnik> biovore: computer 2 probably isn't running ssh
[05:41] <chuckyp> Blippe, ssh is disabled by default
[05:41] <chuckyp> Blippe, the listen that is.
[05:41] <defrysk> Moe|Joe, http://help.ubuntu.com/
[05:41] <Moe|Joe> ah ideal :D
[05:41] <chuckyp> Blippe, eidt /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[05:41] <Moe|Joe> cheers
[05:41] <Moe|Joe> also
[05:42] <defrysk> Moe|Joe, unlogical I know ;p
[05:42] <Moe|Joe> can someone help me with install ndiswrapper via apt-get?
[05:42] <Blippe> but the computer i am trying to reach is reachable from a remote place!
[05:42] <chuckyp> Blippe, s/eidt/edit
[05:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Moe|Joe about ndiswrapper
[05:42] <chuckyp> Blippe, maybe clear the ssh keys then
[05:42] <rasputnik> Blippe: sorry missed that. firewall then I guess?
[05:42] <Goldfisch> Seveas: I just read the sudo man page, and must confess that the reason for using "-i" was confusing and did not leap off the page at me.
[05:42] <Blippe> rasputnik, no firewall
[05:42] <feresmo_> hey....
[05:43] <feresmo_> Im here now again
[05:43] <Subhuman> hi, im having some networking problems, it's not that the connection is down (Im using it now), but the speed is terrible, firefox times out loading google etc... however apt seems to work at normal speed and IRC works fine? Anyone heard of something similar? It's not the router as windows worked fine.
[05:43] <rasputnik> Blippe: then check your sshd_config file, there are ways to restrict access by ip address
[05:43] <feresmo_> PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW I CAN ENTER TO UBUNTU-ES
[05:43] <soop> Subhuman: trace to the www host you are trying to reach
[05:43] <chuckyp> Goldfisch, it uses the users root instead of roots root
[05:43] <Goldfisch> !es
[05:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:43] <_jason> feresmo_: type: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:43] <chuckyp> Goldfisch, er path
[05:43] <Subhuman> k ill do it and show you.
[05:43] <defrysk> feresmo_,  /j #ubuntu-es
[05:43] <feresmo_> THANKS JASON
[05:44] <chuckyp> Goldfisch, lets try this again -i will use your users path -s will use roots path
[05:44] <feresmo_> SPANISH POWER!!!
[05:44] <soop> casteyano
[05:44] <Grark> Hello everyone, What's the favorite Ubuntu FTP Server?  Or a way to transfer files remotely to my pc?
[05:44] <chuckyp> Goldfisch, if that makes sence
[05:44] <CarlFK> Blippe: how many boxes in your ping/ssh and back thing?
[05:44] <feresmo_> ESO SOOP ESPAOL
[05:44] <soop> Grark: whats the originating point?
[05:44] <Goldfisch> chuckyp: Okay. I haven't needed that, yet.
[05:44] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:44] <soop> un poco
[05:44] <feresmo_> ADIOS
[05:44] <Blippe> CarlFK,  direct link...
[05:44] <Grark> soop, work (XP) to home (Ubuntu)
[05:45] <soop> Grark: install ssh
[05:45] <M_A_K> I am running Breezy and have been trying for hours to get tftpd running. Has anybody been successful with it?
[05:45] <chuckyp> Grark, vsftp
[05:45] <soop> then use coreftp from xp to linux box
[05:45] <Subhuman> soop, i tried tracepath, and i get to my router and then no replu
[05:45] <Goldfisch> Good thing I'm not going to -es channel. Gonna' be a lot of YELLING over there soon. :)
[05:45] <CarlFK> Blippe: um..   not extra... you mentioned remote and remote2, but I have a feeling there are 3 all together
[05:45] <soop> coreftp = free windows scp client
[05:45] <chuckyp> !tell M_A_K about anyone
[05:45] <Grark> soop, see, now you're scaring me :)
[05:45] <soop> Subhuman: try tracertoute
[05:45] <Goldfisch> putty = free window scp/sftp/ssh client. ;)
[05:45] <Grark> chuckyp, is that a server as well?
[05:45] <Subhuman> the router seems to be acting strange for linux?
[05:46] <CarlFK> Blippe: basicaly restate that using boxA, boxB... for all the machines
[05:46] <Steve^> When I hit ctrl-alt-backspace, I am left with just the command line. How do I get the gnome desktop back up? Is it just 'startx'?
[05:46] <Subhuman> i only seem to have traceroute6, isnt that for ip6?
[05:46] <Blippe> CarlFK no i tried one remote, ssh there and back
[05:46] <mikelo> i can't read ms asf videos
[05:46] <Goldfisch> Steve^: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:46] <gnomefreak> Steve^: startx
[05:46] <chuckyp> Grark, thats what I thought you where asking use vsftp can be an ftp server damaen
[05:46] <soop> Steve^: alt-f7
[05:46] <crimsun> Subhuman: use tracepath
[05:46] <chuckyp> Grark, do apt-cache search vsftp
[05:46] <Subhuman> crimsun, i did.
[05:46] <Steve^> thanks thanks thanks
[05:46] <gnomefreak> Steve^: pick your posion ;)
[05:46] <Subhuman> i get to my router then no reply.
[05:46] <M_A_K> chuckyp : whats up with anyone?
[05:46] <chuckyp> Grark, if you are looking for a client who knows
[05:46] <Blippe> two boxes here, direct link. The one I am trying to reach is reachable from remote!
[05:46] <Goldfisch> Steve^: gdm runs startx for you.
[05:47] <chuckyp> M_A_K, read what ubotu told you.
[05:47] <crimsun> Subhuman: your isp probably blocks, then
[05:47] <Blippe> two nics in the one I am trying to reach
[05:47] <Steve^> Goldfisch, but it requires more typing :P
[05:47] <chuckyp> Blippe, firewall?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> alt-f7 brings you back to current session
[05:47] <mz_work> well i just can't agree with the sudo logic for ubuntu
[05:47] <Grark> chuckyp, "client who knows?"
[05:47] <Subhuman> crimsun, okay but then how does the router work fine with windows?
[05:47] <mz_work> think i'll stick w/ real debian
[05:47] <michael117> Is there a GUI tool out there to easily edit your fstab and mount partitions with?
[05:47] <CarlFK> Blippe: so if you can ssh there and back, what is the problem?
[05:47] <M_A_K> Ah, I didnt even see teh little window that opened. I get it ... thanks.
[05:47] <chuckyp> Grark, just type ftp in terminal for a client
[05:47] <Blippe> chuckyp,  no firewall, how did i restart sshd again?
[05:47] <crimsun> Subhuman: "work fine"?
[05:47] <Goldfisch> Steve^: Build those fingers of steel!
[05:47] <Subhuman> i mean packets are packets arent they? doesnt matter what OS I use, this is a friends pc too and im on the same isp and have no problems in linux
[05:48] <soop> mz_work: pfft ... you don't know what you are missing
[05:48] <Subhuman> lol work fine as in connects, downloads etc.
[05:48] <soop> subhuman, its only www that is giving you issues right?
[05:48] <Goldfisch> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart <--- restarts ssh server.
[05:48] <Subhuman> yes, seems so.
[05:48] <Blippe> the one box i want to call from (locally) suceeds to ping but not ssh
[05:48] <Aarohi> hey guys. i can't use the 'make' command on ubuntu.. it says the command doesnt exist. how do i compile without the make command? some help please..
[05:48] <fell_> salllutt
[05:48] <soop> sub, have you tried removing his router from the equationa nd just plugging in directly?
[05:48] <chuckyp> Blippe, to restart it try sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[05:48] <hypa7ia> Aarohi: sudo ap-get install build-essentials
[05:48] <Goldfisch> Aarohi: You probably need the build tools. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:48] <soop> aaroni: you have to get the development package
[05:48] <Subhuman> but i cant figure out why, like even on the time sync it fails.
[05:48] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[05:48] <Aarohi> kk thanks guys
[05:48] <hypa7ia> Aarohi: oops, minus the s on the end :)
[05:48] <gnomefreak> install
[05:49] <Grark> svftp seems like it wil do the trick
[05:49] <fell_> salut
[05:49] <Subhuman> im i cant really remove it, have no other modem.
[05:49] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, I was diggin xgl earlier today
[05:49] <Grark> chuckyp, I'm new so gui is preferred.
[05:49] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, like the f12 or window display
[05:49] <soop> ok, so your wan modem is plugged directly into the machine?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: its ok i gave up becasue it cant do what i want it to
[05:49] <chuckyp> Grark, well you can always use synaptic and search for ftp and hunt arround.
[05:49] <Blippe> still pingable no ssh!
[05:49] <gnomefreak> that and my synaptic issue
[05:49] <xoan_afrogay> hy
[05:50] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, know of a good gui ftp client
[05:50] <gnomefreak> gftp?
[05:50] <xoan_afrogay> how can I kick somoone????????
[05:50] <chuckyp> Grark, there okay there ya go gftp
[05:50] <soop> xoan_afrogay: you can't
[05:50] <Goldfisch> Blippe: ps -ef | grep sshd <---- any hint of an ssh daemon running?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> xoan_afrogay: you cant
[05:50] <M_A_K> Ok so here goes.  I have been trying to get tftpd running so I can copy configs from routers and switches, but have had no success.  I seem to be unable to get tftpd running properly or at all.  I need some help.  I just got some help from #linuxhelp and still no luck.
[05:50] <zekafredoo> re
[05:50] <xoan_afrogay> but Some one kicks me
[05:50] <gnomefreak> xoan_afrogay: there had to have been a reason
[05:50] <CarlFK> Blippe: if no ssh, then what do you mean ", ssh there and back" ?
[05:50] <Grark> chuckyp, I installed svftp through synaptic...now I just have to find where it installed it :)
[05:50] <chuckyp> xoan_afrogay, kick some one from where?
[05:50] <xoan_afrogay> And I have a reason too
[05:51] <chuckyp> Grark, type in terminal which svftp
[05:51] <xoan_afrogay> from ubuntu-s
[05:51] <jaramillo> gr, i hate this sounds problems
[05:51] <jaramillo> these*
[05:51] <hypa7ia> M_A_K: tftpd is a pain to get running.  have you edited the config yet?  i remember that you need to to even get it to start
[05:51] <Aarohi> hypa7ia, Goldfisch, there is no such package as 'build-essentials'
[05:51] <chuckyp> Grark, it should be in /usr/bin/svftp or whateve rthe name of the app is.
[05:51] <crimsun> jaramillo: what sound problems?
[05:51] <Qix> hi - I've been trying for ages to get my ati gfx card (9600XT) to work under a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10
[05:51] <Blippe> i ssh to the university and ssh back, that works, i try to ssh from another local to the first local, doesn't work
[05:51] <Goldfisch> Aarohi: You probably need the build tools. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:51] <Qix> it just doesnt work, i mean... i try:
[05:51] <gnomefreak> xoan_afrogay: take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue
[05:51] <gnomefreak> please*
[05:51] <Grark> chuckyp, odd, when I typed "which svftp" it didn't do anything
[05:51] <Qix> /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc ++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:51] <Aarohi> there is no such package Goldfisch
[05:51] <Goldfisch> Aarohi: Not what I typed. :)
[05:51] <M_A_K> i edited the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp file and it seems to look ok.
[05:51] <hypa7ia> Aarohi: what version of ubu are you running?
[05:51] <Qix> (libstdc++.5 doesnt exist, anywhere)
[05:51] <chuckyp> Blippe, because its not listening on 22 on the internal nic only on the external perhaps?
[05:51] <Aarohi> breezy
[05:51] <soop> holy scroll
[05:52] <xoan_afrogay> ey gnome...He kicks me only for enter
[05:52] <jaramillo> i upgraded to dapper a few days ago, everything was fine, this morning i did updated a few files, rebooted and now i dont have sound
[05:52] <chuckyp> Grark, did you mena you installed vsftp?
[05:52] <xoan_afrogay> men...teach me
[05:52] <Goldfisch> Aarohi: No "s" on the end.
[05:52] <Grark> chuckyp, yes via synaptic
[05:52] <Aarohi> k
[05:52] <nickrud> Qix, no period in it
[05:52] <Subhuman> soop,  i have a vigor router, with a direct connection to the net, and im connected via ethernet to it, in windows i have no problems, but in linux, it seems to be http which is having a problem, although apt works fine.
[05:52] <Qix> root@qix:~/Desktop# ./ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy
[05:52] <Qix>  - gives me:::::::::;;
[05:52] <jaramillo> javier@noms:~$ alsamixer -> No mixer elems found
[05:52] <crimsun> jaramillo: none, not even with the gdm greeter?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> jaramillo: hence the term testing/unstable
[05:52] <Qix> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 51: dpkg-architecture: command not foundError: unsupported architecture:
[05:52] <chuckyp> Grark, and if you want to set vsftp up your config will be in like /etc/vsftp.conf or /etc/vsftp/vsftp.conf something similiar
[05:52] <Qix> i mean, wtf does that mean ?
[05:52] <jaramillo> nope, not even with the gdm greeter
[05:52] <hypa7ia> Aarohi: build-essential - informational list of build-essential packages
[05:52] <crimsun> jaramillo: pastebin output from lsmod && cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:52] <chuckyp> Grark, vsftp is a ftp server
[05:52] <chuckyp> !vsftp
[05:52] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[05:52] <chalcedony> darn.. Lynx just didn't show the 'continued on page.." and didn't work with Evince.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Qix: please stay on topic
[05:52] <Qix> is there any way to just get a package with the ati files ?
[05:53] <Grark> chuckyp, yes that's exactly what I needed.
[05:53] <Qix> gnomefreak, whats the topic ?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Qix about ati
[05:53] <Qix> its all related to my issue ;/
[05:53] <Aarohi> k hypa7ia .. i tried essentials earlier, instead of essential
[05:53] <Grark> chuckyp, thank you
[05:53] <gnomefreak> Qix: type /topic
[05:53] <gnomefreak> wtf is not related to anything for ubuntu
[05:53] <Aarohi> working.. thanks hypa7ia Goldfisch
[05:53] <Grark> odd...no files found.
[05:53] <chuckyp> Grark, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371&highlight=vsftp  is usefull for you also
[05:53] <jaramillo> here http://rafb.net/paste/results/UZTP6135.html
[05:53] <nickrud> Qix, the dpkg-arch error means you need to install build-essential
[05:54] <hypa7ia> M_A_K: double-check that config, it's finnicky
[05:54] <Grark> chuckyp, gimme a few minutes to figure this out, thanks for the point in the right direction
[05:54] <chuckyp> Grark, np
[05:54] <CarlFK> Blippe: your box names are less than crystal clear.  is this correct: ": i ssh from BoxA to BoxB (the university) and ssh from BoxB back to BoxA, that works, i try to ssh from BoxC (another local) to BoxA (the first local), doesn't work" ?
[05:54] <crimsun> jaramillo: oh, that's simple. Does ``alsamixer -c1'' work?
[05:54] <M_A_K> I am not sure what it should look like.
[05:54] <jaramillo> yeah
[05:54] <chuckyp> CarlFK, its because he has two nics one internal one external and internal nic isn't listening on port 22
[05:55] <Blippe> CarlFK exactly
[05:55] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: that even confused me :(
[05:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:55] <CarlFK> ok, we are getting somewhere...
[05:56] <Chodder> Whats the option you put in your X config to disable taps on a touchpad?  I can't remember...
[05:56] <chuckyp> CarlFK, atleast thats the only thing I can think of that would cause this but an edit of /etc/ssh/ssh_config would set him straight.
[05:56] <M_A_K> hypia7ia : where can I get a sample to see what it *should* look like?
[05:56] <crimsun> jaramillo: the problem is straightforward to resolve. When you plugged in your usb webcam, it took over. You need to make sure it doesn't do that. At the cli, echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:56] <Blippe> i'm gonna try to get ssh deamons running on the both local machines...
[05:56] <chuckyp> !synaptics
[05:56] <soop> anyone know of a script that will convert an html form submission into a pdf?
[05:56] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[05:56] <CarlFK> if BoxA has 2 nics and BoxB is on one and BoxC on the other,   then i agree: sshd not listening on the BoxB side nic
[05:56] <chuckyp> !mittens
[05:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[05:56] <chuckyp> lol
[05:56] <gnomefreak> why does he keep comming in and leaving
[05:56] <tU_VES_XOANT> eyyy please   Someone banned me for a channelll!!!!!!!
[05:56] <Chodder> chuckyp, it's just a simple option
[05:56] <setog3> lut
[05:56] <tU_VES_XOANT> ey chuckyp
[05:57] <gnomefreak> tU_VES_XOANT: talk to the people in that channel
[05:57] <chuckyp> Chodder, i dunno googly for synaptic disable touch
[05:57] <chuckyp> !fr
[05:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:57] <Chodder> chuckyp, i have :/
[05:57] <chuckyp> Chodder, let me search see what I can find hold up
[05:57] <jonatas> hello
[05:57] <Grark> ok grark's an idiot.
[05:58] <Chodder> chuckyp, nvm
[05:58] <Grark> has to get the name of the app right :|
[05:58] <crimsun> jaramillo: then, if you don't wish to reboot, simply log out of GNOME, log into a virtual console, then ``sudo modprobe -r snd-usb-audio snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 snd-usb-audio''
[05:58] <jaramillo> ;o
[05:58] <jaramillo> k
[05:58] <Chodder> chuckyp, I think I remember it, it's like maxtaptime=0 or something
[05:58] <jaramillo> let me try it
[05:58] <chuckyp> Chodder, Option "SHMConfig" "on"  and Option "MaxTapTime "0"
[05:58] <jaramillo> thx <3
[05:58] <chuckyp> Chodder, yeah maxtaptime 0 should be all you need
[05:58] <Chodder> yup
[05:58] <chuckyp> disregard the first one shouldn't be needed
[06:00] <gazanfer> anyone knows a good lightweight allaround media player? (to play avi/mpg/mp3/wav/ogg/etc..)
[06:00] <Chodder> VLC :P
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gazanfer about mplayer
[06:01] <Mr_Spiff> gazanfer: second that VLC
[06:01] <Blippe> gnomefreak, does the new (dapper) ubuntu have an option to install to harddrvie from the live cd?
[06:01] <Subhuman> ZOMG LOLZWTF
[06:01] <crimsun> Blippe: yes.
[06:01] <Subhuman> okay my dns is the problem.
[06:01] <Mr_Spiff> i like vlc with vc1 built in
[06:01] <Blippe> crimsun, i freaking love you all!
[06:01] <Subhuman> which is odd since i dont have a problem in win, so anyone know why linux shits on my dns?
[06:02] <Chodder> VLC is great, but obviously illegal
[06:02] <k0ck> Subhuman: what do u mean?
[06:02] <Chodder> Unless it's developed in canada or something
[06:02] <Blippe> I'm gonna install hoary, get sshd up and running get the iso for dapper, burn it and reinstall... excellent plan!
[06:02] <LinuxJones> Subhuman: it's probably because of ipv6 support being loaded
[06:03] <chuckyp> Blippe, why?
[06:03] <Aarohi> one of the packages i'm installing wants me to have libid3tag.. i do have libid3tag0 installed, and there is no libid3tag in the list in synaptic.. what can i do?
[06:04] <chuckyp> Aarohi, what package are you trying to install and from where?
[06:04] <b33r> is there a software for linux like winamp?
[06:04] <Blippe> several reasons, one of them being that i can't burn a cd when the livecd is in the cdtray
[06:04] <_jason> b33r: I like beep-media-player
[06:04] <Aarohi> chuckyp, xmms now playing plugin
[06:04] <Aarohi> from sf.net
[06:04] <mustard5> Aarohi, I see it in synaptic for breezy
[06:05] <crimsun> Arnald: you need the -dev package
[06:05] <b33r> _jason, how can I install it?
[06:05] <Aarohi> mustard5, libid3tag?
[06:05] <crimsun> Arnald: (if you're attempting to compile the program)
[06:05] <Arnald> crimsun: not me
[06:05] <_jason> b33r: enable universe and install the beep-media-player package using synaptic
[06:05] <crimsun> Arnald: sorry
[06:05] <mustard5> Aarohi,
[06:05] <mustard5> libid3tag0-dev yep
[06:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell b33r about universe
[06:05] <Arnald> ;)
[06:05] <LinuxJones> Subhuman: you can turn off ipv6 support by editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and near the top in the first section make the line look like this >> alias net-pf-10 off ipv6      Save te file and run sudo update-modules then re-boot your computer, dns should be quicker once you've done that.
[06:06] <Aarohi> mustard5, not libid3tag0-dev, its asking for libid3tag
[06:06] <Aarohi> is it the same one?
[06:06] <mustard5> Aarohi, thats the package you need yes
[06:06] <diskodave> gnomefreak: dist-upgrade ran to completion ;) bam! cheers dude
[06:06] <hubert> Salut  tous ;) je dcouvre l'IRC en direct grce  ubuntu en connexion 56K (!) a marche... Hallucinant...
[06:06] <Aarohi> okay.. thank you mustard5
[06:06] <Aarohi> i'll try it out
[06:06] <mustard5> Aarohi, if you have dependency problems compiling..its often a -dev package that is needed
[06:06] <defrysk> !fr
[06:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:06] <Aarohi> i see
[06:06] <ccc_> Chodder: illegal? maybe in usa, but i couldn't care less for their retarded laws. it is mainly a french project, but has devs all over.
[06:07] <Chodder> I could care less either
[06:07] <robinl1> i need a full HOWTO on playing windows games on Ubuntu and generally Linux, can somebody help me/
[06:07] <robinl1> ?
[06:07] <Chodder> :)
[06:07] <chuckyp> ITS NOT ILLEGAL IF YOU HAVE A LEGIT COPY OF WINDOWS.  why does no one get this
[06:07] <mustard5> Aarohi, you can use the apt-cache search <keyword>   .....to search for stuff
[06:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robinl1: They have stuff like that - generally, they have specific ones for each game - over at www.winehq.com
[06:07] <Chodder> I've never been one to care for copyright
[06:07] <chuckyp> ;ljkasj;lk asd;ljk vjk laj kav I need a smoke
[06:07] <chuckyp> ^^^ me slamming on my keyboard
[06:07] <Chodder> chuckyp, wtf are you talking about?
[06:08] <_jason> how come mplayer is in multiverse (as opposed to universe)?
[06:08] <jaramillo> thx guys, everything's fine ;)
[06:09] <monroe> hey there
[06:09] <Goldfisch> Chodder: Well, ubuntu is copyrighted. Just not the same type as certain other products.....
[06:09] <Chocobo> Hello monroe
[06:09] <Chodder> GPL :)
[06:09] <j2daosh> got a problem... i cant seem to log into my network... it is asking me for a password... i put it in and it just asks me for it again. i know the password is correct because it worked when i first set it up
[06:09] <aragorn> hi at all
[06:09] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i view .mpeg in ubuntu
[06:09] <j2daosh> why would it not accept it now?
[06:09] <Wizz_kidd> what package do i need
[06:09] <monroe> hi chocobo
[06:10] <Chodder> !win32codecs
[06:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Wizz_kidd about multimedia
[06:10] <j2daosh> i recently did a reinstall of the windows xp os on my upstairs box (the one im trying to connect to). does that have anything to do with it?
[06:10] <obli> hey, can I get some newbie ubuntu support here?
[06:10] <j2daosh> maybe because the ip addy of the box changed?
[06:10] <Wizz_kidd> is there an actual package name i can DL off synaptic
[06:10] <jbroome> j2daosh: windows firewall?
[06:10] <monroe> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and now my mouse touch pad is moving VERY slow, any ideas?
[06:10] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: check your private messages
[06:10] <j2daosh> damnit
[06:10] <j2daosh> yeah
[06:10] <j2daosh> and that is probably it
[06:10] <Goldfisch> j2daosh: Remote or console login?
[06:11] <jbroome> j2daosh: :)
[06:11] <j2daosh> niether
[06:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wizz_kidd: totem-xine and/or w32codecs
[06:11] <j2daosh> im just trying to get to the hard drive
[06:11] <j2daosh> "mapping"
[06:11] <chuckyp> j2daosh, yeah just turn off window firewall and use smbclient
[06:11] <j2daosh> wait... it is off
[06:11] <hartz> obli - I'll try to answer any questions :-)
[06:11] <chuckyp> then just browse to the network share
[06:11] <Grark> !vsftp
[06:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Grark
[06:11] <j2daosh> im trying
[06:11] <j2daosh> thats what asks me for my password
[06:12] <obli> hartz, I have this NTFS partition I've realized I can't use, so I'm going to convert to to a linux file system
[06:12] <michael117> Is there a GUI tool out there to easily edit your fstab and mount partitions with?
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> monroe: system -> prefs -> mouse -> motion -> sensitivity?
[06:12] <psycho_oreos> try pressing enter instead
[06:12] <j2daosh> enter
[06:12] <obli> I went into the disk manager, converted it, but when I go back it still says NTFS
[06:12] <j2daosh> wont let me
[06:12] <mustard5> michael117, not that I know of for ubuntu
[06:12] <gnomefreak> _jason: its in multiverse because not a huge user base i think
[06:12] <obli> I don't care about the data, all my mp3s can be recovered from my ipod, and the movies were already watched :)
[06:13] <psycho_oreos> j2daosh: what about a no user/password field?
[06:13] <hartz> obli ... go  on ....
[06:13] <TuxMeister> hey guys
[06:13] <gazanfer> how can i let apt-get to install not only dependencies but also suggested packages?
[06:13] <obli> well, I want to use the disk, as mounting an ntfs drive apparently didn't work very well
[06:13] <j2daosh> nope... now its telling me i have to log into linux (the computer im using right now)
[06:13] <obli> it had UTF characters in it
[06:13] <TuxMeister> anybody could tell me if this chipset "Broadcom BCM4318" is supported by ubuntu (latest version)?
[06:13] <obli> ()
[06:13] <monroe> pumpernickle: I did that, it works for the knob in the keyboard, but not the touch pad
[06:14] <gnomefreak> gazanfer: man apt-get but i dont remember ever comming across flags for that
[06:14] <psycho_oreos> obli: you can temporarily copy the data elsewhere and then format that partition/disk. Once done, you copy the data back
[06:14] <Goldfisch> gazanfer: Well, first cancel the initial apt-get command. Then kick off the command again, this time listing the other ones you want as well.
[06:14] <mustard5> gazanfer, interesting question...hmmm..I'll have to check that one out
[06:14] <_jason> gnomefreak: I though multiverse was reserved for things that weren't open source, so I thought that maybe a part of mplayer was (maybe a codec)
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> monroe: odd
[06:14] <obli> psycho_oreos, will try, thanks
[06:14] <hartz> obli> Does th disk need to remain as an NTFS disk?
[06:14] <j2daosh> ... man... this is pissing me off
[06:14] <robinl1> PuMpErNiCkLe: who have lots of stuff like that?
[06:14] <obli> no, not really
[06:14] <Genfoo> what mode do I need to chmod so I users will not be able to delete files?
[06:14] <Goldfisch> _jason: Depending on which, there is also restricted.
[06:14] <robinl1> PuMpErNiCkLe: and like what?
[06:14] <gazanfer> Goldfisch, i didnt get it... can you explain please?
[06:14] <obli> I think I've already messed it up anywya
[06:14] <Genfoo> chmod 700 ?
[06:15] <zoonk> ://
[06:15] <Genfoo> 644?
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> j2daosh: still no go? ok, is windows the host?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> _jason: maybe for some reason i remember reading something about they move repos as they become more demanded but the codecs is a good one
[06:15] <hartz> obli Then I echo physo-oreos
[06:15] <Goldfisch> gazanfer: Can you give me a package you tried, and one of the suggested ones?
[06:15] <k_uusubatu> has anyone had any success transferring songs from rhthymbox to an ipod?
[06:15] <monroe> pumpernickle: yes, I agree
[06:15] <setog3> Hi , can I found an ubuntu cdrom with french package ?
[06:15] <obli> ok, I'll give it a try
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> obli: you should have the disk unmounted before any conversion is taking place, etc
[06:15] <j2daosh> yep
[06:15] <hartz> obli > But if you don't have the space to copy all the data elsewhere, I suggest back it up to CD or DVD.
[06:15] <gazanfer> Goldfisch, package is vlc, and one of the suggested is lirc
[06:15] <defrysk> k_uusubatu, I have an Iaudio G2
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> j2daosh: and can other windows box see and access teh shares?
[06:15] <defrysk> it rules
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> s/teh/the
[06:15] <Genfoo> maybe chmod -t ?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> setog3: you set the lanugage you want during install
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Genfoo: man chmod
[06:16] <Goldfisch> gazanfer: Okay, when you first try sudo apt-get install vlc, you then see lirc listed. Ctrl-C to break out of the your current command. Then type "sudo apt-get install vlc lirc". That will install both of the packages.
[06:16] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, do you know how to make a correction to ubotu?
[06:16] <k_uusubatu> rhthymbox sees the ipod, but when I drag songs to it, nothing happens, but I am able to transfer songs in amarok
[06:16] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: i hate when things start off like that lol whats up?
[06:17] <gazanfer> Goldfisch, thank  you. so i must do it manually :)
[06:17] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, go to +1
[06:17] <Genfoo> gnomefreak -_- ok
[06:17] <hubert> Setog, bien sr tu peux trouver sur le cd ubuntu les paquets en franais...
[06:17] <s|k> I'm trying to install the mplayer-plugin and during configuration it's telling me I'm missing gthread, don't I have glib installed out of the box?
[06:17] <Goldfisch> gazanfer: As far as I know. If you automated that, your system would probably HUGE based on the number of suggestions.
[06:17] <Goldfisch> probably grow HUGE
[06:17] <psycho_oreos> !tell hubert about fr
[06:17] <robinl1> i need a full HOWTO on playing windows games on Ubuntu and generally Linux, can somebody help me/
[06:18] <meborc> !wine
[06:18] <psycho_oreos> robinl1: doubt that would be easily found
[06:18] <s|k> anyone?
[06:18] <meborc> robinl1 - try searching ubuntuforums.org ... there is a section called gaming
[06:18] <k_uusubatu> is there any other package I need to install in order to transfer songs to an ipod in dapper?
[06:18] <_jason> s|k: mplayer plugin is in the repos as mozilla-mplayer
[06:18] <Stormx2> robinl1: You'll want cedega or wine. What games?
[06:19] <TuxMeister> anybody could tell me if this chipset "Broadcom BCM4318" is supported by ubuntu (latest version)? if not, just say no, and i lose no more time around here, please
[06:20] <j2daosh> bbiaf phone
[06:20] <gazanfer> bye all
[06:21] <martyn> Hi all
[06:21] <martyn> does any 1 know how to install a soundblaster 24 bit sound card
[06:22] <hartz> what is dapper?
[06:22] <b33r> do I need an antivirus or firewall for linux?
[06:22] <_jason> !dapper
[06:22] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[06:22] <chuckyp> b33r, thats up to you
[06:22] <blekos> dapper is the new ubuntu
[06:22] <blekos> :)
[06:22] <blekos> hip hip horey
[06:22] <s|k> not out yet :(
[06:22] <blekos> well just about...
[06:22] <b33r> chuckyp, is it safe to use without it?
[06:22] <blekos> 36 days and counting
[06:22] <s|k> aren't they going to put it off blekos ?
[06:23] <blekos> nop
[06:23] <_jason> b33r: you don't need an antivirus unless you run a mail server for windows users imo.  You don't really need a firewall either on a default install, but it won't hurt
[06:23] <s|k> delay the release to june is what I read
[06:23] <psycho_oreos> b33r: primarily firewire is important, antivirus is only to scan files that are destined for win32 boxes, etc
[06:23] <blekos> really??
[06:23] <blekos> grrr
[06:23] <chuckyp> b33r, depends on how paranoid you are I guess.  But most systems that are targeted are windows in my eyes atleast.  You won't find many linux viruses.
[06:23] <blekos> i'm using it since realese4 its great...
[06:23] <hartz> Then I should not have ordered a bunch of CDs a few weeks ago :-(  Why another release so soon?  What is dapper about?
[06:23] <b33r> ok thnx
[06:23] <s|k> b33r I use firestarter
[06:23] <s|k> !firestarter
[06:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[06:23] <blekos> apart from the fact i cannot sync my palmotp which drive me to use win...
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> linux virus only occurs if one is stupid/ignorant/blind about it
[06:24] <_jason> hartz: scheduled to release in april but it may be postponed 6 weeks
[06:24] <gnomefreak> 35 more mins :(
[06:25] <s|k> if during a configure gthread wasn't found (part of glib) should I not 'make' ?
[06:25] <s|k> I have glib
[06:25] <s|k> I don't know why it's not fidning it
[06:25] <blekos> the problem with the ubuntu1 channel is that u can hardly find anyone there or get any answer :(
[06:25] <gnomefreak> blekos: i didnt see you ask anything im sorry
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> blekos: being on the bleeding edge does have its problems :)
[06:26] <blekos> i've tried again gnome freek
[06:26] <chuckyp> blekos, thats because its ubuntu+1
[06:26] <blekos> and again...
[06:26] <s|k> anyone?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> blekos: i havent seen it please try again i can only scroll so far
[06:26] <HappyFool> s|k: you've installed libglib2.0-dev ?
[06:26] <blekos> gnome freak maybe u can help me with this one
[06:27] <chuckyp> !ask
[06:27] <mikebot> has anyone gotten any p2p other than torrenting to work well in ubuntu?
[06:27] <Subhuman> Hey LinuxJones thats for the help
[06:27] <chuckyp> mikebot, yeah
[06:27] <gnomefreak> blekos: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper related issues im in there so if i can help i will
[06:27] <mikebot> chuckyp: which?
[06:27] <blekos> the current version of kernel 2.6.15-16-386(i'm using dd) does not include the usbserial module
[06:27] <chuckyp> mikebot, amule
[06:27] <LinuxJones> Subhuman: no problem :)
[06:27] <Subhuman> Internet is as quick as it hsoudl be now.
[06:27] <mikebot> chuckyp: i heard that that was really slow
[06:27] <blekos> how can i load modules on a kernel?
[06:27] <chuckyp> mikebot, not for me.
[06:27] <Subhuman> But the second problem now is gaim wont connect
[06:27] <LinuxJones> Subhuman: good to hear
[06:28] <psycho_oreos> blekos: modprobe or insmod
[06:28] <mikebot> chuckyp: okay, i'll try it...sudo apt-get install amule>
[06:28] <_jason> mikebot: frostwire works well for me
[06:28] <Subhuman> i didnt connect before nor does it connect now
[06:28] <s|k> HappyFool: no :0
[06:28] <chuckyp> blekos, and rmmod to remove it.
[06:28] <s|k> HappyFool: do I need that?
[06:28] <blekos> basically i do not have a /device/usb folder
[06:28] <mikebot> _jason: i couldn't conncet to frostwire, and could get help with it
[06:28] <blekos> i'll try that
[06:28] <HappyFool> s|k: to compile glib-related stuff, yes
[06:28] <HappyFool> s|k: what are you compiling?
[06:28] <obli> ok, that didn
[06:28] <chuckyp> blekos, it may be under /dev/sd?  or something goofy I saw people reporting
[06:28] <obli> 't work very well
[06:28] <chuckyp> blekos, try lsusb etc..
[06:28] <s|k> HappyFool: the latest version of the mplayer-plugin
[06:28] <_jason> mikebot: maybe a firewall issue?  it just worked as soon as I installed it here
[06:29] <obli> My NTFS partition is still alive and well
[06:29] <laurisima> Hi
[06:29] <obli> >:(
[06:29] <mikebot> _jason: don't have a firewall
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> obli: what did you convert from and to?
[06:29] <chuckyp> obli, what do you want to do get rid of it?
[06:29] <andbelo> I am trying to print files as .pdf... What is the best drive to print .pdf files from applications?
[06:29] <Subhuman> Yeah so my gaim wont connect, any idea. It connected only 2 times in the last 2 days?
[06:29] <HappyFool> s|k: hrm. not an ubuntu package?
[06:29] <_jason> mikebot: router?
[06:29] <laurisima> how many code lines have got the ubuntu
[06:29] <laurisima> ?
[06:29] <blekos> hmm, with lsusb i get Bus 006 ... etc
[06:29] <mikebot> _jason: nope
[06:29] <chuckyp> andbelo, best drive?  best app maybe?
[06:29] <HappyFool> s|k: i was going to recommend 'apt-get build-dep', but that only works if the thing you're compiling exists in ubuntu
[06:29] <obli> yes, screw the data, I won't bother connecting it to my other computer for saving
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> laurisima: more than several billion lines of different coding :p
[06:30] <blekos> basically I'm trying to locate where on earth my ipaq connect so i can get sync
[06:30] <_jason> s|k: try apt-get build-dep mozilla-mplayer, and if you still need things take a look at the README file
[06:30] <obli> I'm just converting to anything linux doesn't hate
[06:30] <chuckyp> blekos, is your device showing up in lsusb
[06:30] <mikebot> _jason: oh no no, i did get frostwire working, i had to put in a username and password--but when i searched i got like 3 responces
[06:30] <s|k> HappyFool: the ubuntu package is 4 versions out of date and runs terribly
[06:30] <mikebot> responses*
[06:30] <obli> So I can use my secondary hard drive
[06:30] <laurisima> hello guys
[06:30] <_jason> mikebot: oh, maybe it's just a rare file
[06:30] <laurisima> i wanted to know
[06:30] <chuckyp> obli, fat32
[06:30] <laurisima> how many lines has the source code of UBUNTU
[06:30] <mikebot> _jason: no i would search generic things like one word queries
[06:30] <s|k> _jason: I have that, it doesn't run well, so I'm upgrading to the recent release
[06:30] <obli> chuckyp, fine by me, but how? :(
[06:30] <blekos> yes
[06:31] <andbelo> Yes, can be. My idea was to find an application that worked as a printer...
[06:31] <_jason> s|k: take a look at my command closely :)
[06:31] <HappyFool> s|k: anyway, most libraries (including glib) comes in two packages, one normal and one for development (ending in -dev). You'll probably need a few -dev packages to get this compiled. Read the README/INSTALL files in the source tree to find out what
[06:31] <laurisima> or where i can find that information
[06:31] <s|k> _jason: oh yes
[06:31] <psycho_oreos> obli: you first unmount the partition/disk, use fdisk and change the partition/disk type. Use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat to make it readable and mountable under windows/linux. Mount it, and you are set
[06:31] <chuckyp> obli, you want to keep the data and convert to fat32 right?
[06:31] <_jason> mikebot: don't know then
[06:31] <laurisima> mariconasos
[06:31] <s|k> HappyFool: okay thanks :)
[06:31] <HappyFool> s|k: I recommend 'apt-cache search "name.*dev"' and packages.ubuntu.com to help you find the right libs
[06:31] <chuckyp> obli, or the data doesn't matter on it?
[06:31] <obli> chuckyp, If possible, but I'm not going to bother connecting it to another computer to save the data
[06:31] <lakcaj> laurisima, ubuntu is just a collection of programs including the linux kernel and many other programs that run on top of it.  If you want to know how many lines there are in the kernel, go to kernel.org and download one yourself.
[06:31] <mikebot> howd o i search for packages in terminal?
[06:32] <_jason> mikebot: apt-cache search
[06:32] <s|k> _jason: I got it, thank you :)
[06:32] <blekos> but if i follow the instructions for synce, I am supposed 2 c, smg like /devices/USB/ttyUSB0, in order to sync it with evolution etch
[06:32] <obli> I can't access it right now due to invalid UTF coding or something like that (foreign letters, )
[06:32] <blekos> etc
[06:32] <chuckyp> obli, well you could mount the ntfs partition copy the data to your nix drive.  if you have the space.  Then partition the ntfs drive for fat32.
[06:32] <laurisima> thanks man
[06:32] <_jason> s|k: you've installed build-essential?
[06:32] <chuckyp> obli, and format mount it and move the data back.
[06:32] <mikebot> _jason: thanks
[06:32] <kdomb> mikebot, there are a lot of ubuntu users on slsk using nicotine
[06:32] <psycho_oreos> obli: under linux?
[06:33] <obli> yeah
[06:33] <chuckyp> blekos, I don't have a lot of experience with usb.  What type of device is it?
[06:33] <psycho_oreos> obli: set the mount option to include 'iocharset=utf8' (save it into /etc/fstab), unmount it and remount it
[06:33] <blekos> an hp ipaq
[06:33] <obli> will try
[06:33] <chuckyp> blekos, k
[06:34] <blekos> well, i modprobe ipaq & usbserial
[06:34] <cyphase> why doesn't ubuntu set the hostname on my router
[06:34] <andbelo> chuckyp, mistyping.... 'driver' I'am looking for an application to install that works like a printer to generate .pdf files.
[06:35] <cyphase> i have to go in manually to change it
[06:35] <chuckyp> blekos, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24805&highlight=%22hp+ipaq%22
[06:35] <chuckyp> andbelo, hold up let me check
[06:35] <cyphase> i've tried it with a friends windows laptop. it sets the name, and the router doesn't let me change it
[06:35] <obli> psycho_oreos, this may seem like a stupid question, but how do I edit it, I can't get into the root account
[06:36] <blekos> i'll try it chukup
[06:36] <gnomefreak> obli: you cant use sudo?
[06:36] <bernd> hi i have a problem with my mysql did anybody know what do to with this?
[06:36] <obli> just "sudo (command)" ?
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> obli: yes
[06:36] <bernd> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[06:36] <bernd> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[06:36] <bernd>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[06:36] <bernd> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[06:36] <bernd> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[06:36] <bernd> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[06:36] <obli> oh ^^
[06:36] <gnomefreak> obli: sudo egedit <path/to/file
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> bernd: ask in #mysql
[06:36] <bernd> ok
[06:37] <gnomefreak> bernd: please dont paste in here use pastebin
[06:37] <bddebian> Hey folks
[06:37] <Chocobo> Is there a way to clean (remove) all downloaded packages that are currently just using up disk space?
[06:37] <obli> ok, how do I unmount/mount it
[06:37] <_jason> bernd: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please, and what caused that to happen?
[06:37] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit even
[06:37] <s|k> _jason: that made it work :D
[06:37] <chuckyp> anbelo, cups-pdf maybe?
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> Chocobo: man apt-get.. I think its apt-get purge
[06:37] <chuckyp> andbelo, cups-pdf?
[06:37] <obli> I used to know, but that was under red hat, like three years ago :(
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> obli: umount <dev> && mount <dev>
[06:37] <gnomefreak> psycho_oreos: apt-get remove --purge
[06:38] <_jason> Chocobo: apt-get clean I believe
[06:38] <andbelo> chuckyp, thanks, let me try...
[06:38] <bddebian> I'm trying to do a server install on a Compaq Proliant ML350 of Flight-5 Dapper.  It was getting ACPI:  Looking for DSDT.. Not found, then hanging.  So I did boot: server acpi=off and I don't get the ACPI error but it still hangs?  Any ideas?
[06:38] <psycho_oreos> gnomefreak: ahh, I think thats it, thanks.. should have been directed to Chocobo :)
[06:38] <martyn> how do i configure alsa drivers to work with my soundcard
[06:38] <gnomefreak> apt-get clean was right sorry didnt read the whole thing
[06:39] <crimsun> martyn: they should work automatically. What sound card do you have?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> remove --purge gets rid of an app and its config files
[06:39] <andbelo> bernd, I had a similar problem. The causes in my case were: 1. wrong permissions to the directories and 2. need to edit a file that says to MySQL where to llok for the sockt.
[06:39] <martyn> crimsun: soundblaster live 24bit
[06:39] <gnomefreak> bddebian: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper related issues
[06:39] <bddebian> gnomefreak: Ah, thx
[06:39] <crimsun> martyn: pastebin output from cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:39] <Chocobo> Thanks _jason and psycho_oreos.
[06:39] <gnomefreak> bddebian: your welcome
[06:40] <martyn> crimsun: what soes that mean am a wee bit ofa noob to linux lol
[06:40] <crimsun> !tell martyn about pastebin
[06:40] <crimsun> martyn: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[06:40] <martyn> thx
[06:41] <gnomefreak> crimsun: i have same card he should just beable to go into the settings and choose the card he wants to use (if onboard is shut off)
[06:41] <obli> psycho_oreos, It says "special device /dev/hdd5 does not exist" =\
[06:41] <martyn> yeah its shut of it does not pick it up at all
[06:41] <iGotNoTime> Hey I have a problem with my video files, they all seem to play at doublespeed. Does anyone have a guess as to why?
[06:42] <iGotNoTime> all media players do it, even VLC
[06:42] <chuckyp> obli, sudo fdisk -l to see what drives you have
[06:42] <marlun> Is there no simple direct connect client for linux? I tried "Dc++ Linux" but it was a big mess.
[06:42] <psycho_oreos> obli: paste your fdisk -l /dev/hdd5 on pastebin's site
[06:42] <chuckyp> marlun, what do youmean direct connect?
[06:42] <chuckyp> marlun, like a remote shell?
[06:42] <crimsun> martyn: I need the output from that command on pastebin
[06:42] <iGotNoTime> marlun, DC++ is actually quite good
[06:42] <marlun> chuckyp: Nope I mean like DC++ :)
[06:42] <iGotNoTime> marlun, what was the problem?
[06:43] <chuckyp> marlun, a p2p program
[06:43] <martyn> crimsun: what do i do with paste bin got the site page open
[06:43] <chuckyp> marlun, amule
[06:43] <obli> psycho_oreos, where?
[06:43] <VIMmer> hi, can anyone suggest me a good svn client for ubuntu?
[06:43] <psycho_oreos> !tell obli about pastebin
[06:43] <marlun> iGotNoTime: The linux version? The UI was a big mess and it didn't save my settings and hang all the time.
[06:43] <weedar> How can I specify default device to use to connect to internet?
[06:43] <VIMmer> i tried rapidsvn, but it sucks
[06:43] <obli> ah, thanks
[06:43] <chuckyp> marlun, ahh you want a dc++ clinet hodl up
[06:43] <crimsun> martyn: take the output from the command I gave you and paste it into the text entry area
[06:43] <marlun> chuckyp: not the same type :)
[06:43] <crimsun> martyn: then submit it, and tell me the url
[06:43] <marlun> chuckyp: yeah :P
[06:43] <iGotNoTime> marlun, the layout is considerably different, bt it is better that a command-line version
[06:44] <martyn> ok 2 sec
[06:44] <iGotNoTime> marlun, that is what we had 2 years ago
[06:44] <oldbear> !tell oldbear about pastebin
[06:44] <iGotNoTime> DC++ Linux is the only DC client I am aware of
[06:44] <obli> psycho_oreos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10229
[06:44] <iGotNoTime> there are a few in Java I have heard though
[06:45] <marlun> iGotNoTime: I don't like java apps :P hehe
[06:45] <chuckyp> marlun, thats the only one I see also
[06:45] <drayen> anyone have the breezy mySQL server installed able to test something for me?
[06:45] <martyn> crimsun: searched its and 0 search for 0
[06:46] <martyn> crimsun: 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[06:46] <martyn>                      Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xa400 irq 18
[06:46] <martyn> 1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[06:46] <martyn>                      MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 10
[06:46] <defrysk> errr
[06:46] <crimsun> martyn: it's recognized just fine
[06:46] <marlun> Too bad theres not a gnome-direct-connect or something with a nice simple UI. I'll have to create one myself =P (yeah right)
[06:46] <psycho_oreos> !tell martyn about pastebin
[06:46] <crimsun> martyn: pastebin, not here
[06:46] <crimsun> martyn: I need the output from ``amixer -c0''
[06:46] <psycho_oreos> obli: looks like your partition is stuffed, there is nothing listed in /dev/hdd
[06:47] <martyn> crimsun: lol i know i just pasted that in to the search function of paste bin and got 0 search for 0
[06:47] <elPepo> hi friends...
[06:47] <obli> weird, but how do I find it? =\
[06:47] <crimsun> martyn: no, not the _search_ but the _text_ area
[06:47] <obli> I used it just before I shut down windows before installing ubuntu
[06:48] <elPepo> please, how do I can do a remote installation using cd/image of Ubuntu in my server?
[06:48] <martyn> crimsun: ok cheers 2 sec mate
[06:48] <mike-e> can anyone tell me how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10133
[06:48] <psycho_oreos> that paste you showed, has a gap between /dev/hda and /dev/hdd. You can see /dev/hdd has nothing extra listed there
[06:48] <blekos> 20mins... I am dist-upgrading :) I want the new (R)evolution
[06:48] <psycho_oreos> obli: well, I kinda doubt rebooting back to windows is possible again
[06:48] <obli> I'm not planning to ;0
[06:48] <VIMmer> guys, when is drapper stable scheduled to come out?
[06:48] <martyn> crimsun: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10230
[06:48] <crimsun> VIMmer: that's up for discussion
[06:48] <defrysk> mike-e, try apt-get -f install
[06:49] <s|k> yay I got mplayer to work really well :D
[06:49] <blekos> tha bad thing with the lates evolution is that it didn have spam filter as good as Kontact...
[06:49] <crimsun> VIMmer: (11 minutes, #ubuntu-meeting)
[06:49] <crimsun> martyn: no, I saw that already. I need ``amixer -c0''
[06:49] <psycho_oreos> obli: well, get into cfdisk, recreate a linux partition, make the partition into a type that you want. If you want windows compatibility, there is the option of ex2/ext3, fat32, reiserfs(read only on windows)
[06:49] <martyn> crimsun: and whats that lol sorry
[06:50] <crimsun> martyn: it's a command you type into the Terminal
[06:50] <crimsun> (without the quotes)
[06:50] <chuckyp> obli, you situation fat32 is the way to go probably
[06:50] <martyn> ok 2 sec
[06:50] <Moe|Joe> isnt their a webpage with all the ubuntu commands on how to install stuff via apt-get?
[06:50] <_jason> !apt
[06:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:51] <obli> FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical
[06:51] <obli> =\
[06:51] <obli> ...partitions overlap
[06:51] <mike-e> defrysk : i did =/
[06:51] <martyn> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10231
[06:51] <crimsun> martyn: your 'Analog Front' is set to 0, so of course you won't hear anything
[06:52] <martyn> and how do i change this
[06:52] <crimsun> martyn: amixer sset 'Analog Front' 225
[06:52] <crimsun> martyn: or use the volume control to adjust 'Analog Front'
[06:52] <defrysk> mike-e, open synaptic select broken packages and remove them with synaptic
[06:52] <crimsun> martyn: or use ``alsamixer -c0''
[06:53] <martyn> crimsun: CHeers mate works great ta
[06:53] <crimsun> martyn: np
[06:53] <martyn> KKK
[06:54] <obli> Meh, I'll just try running the ubuntu installer again, thanks for listening, chuckyp , psycho_oreos
[06:54] <chuckyp> obli, you just have to delete the ntfs partitoin then write the changes
[06:55] <SilvereX> does someone experience gnome panel crashing upon clicking menu item "add to panel" in latest dapper?
[06:55] <_poet> ls
[06:55] <iGotNoTime> libmpeg2 is playing my .mpg files at doublespeed, can anyone help?
[06:55] <mordof> how do i md5 a file?
[06:56] <s_spiff> guys whats the command to install a .deb package?
[06:56] <bddebian> dpkg -i
[06:56] <tristanmike> SilvereX, please take all Dapper discussions to #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <siriusnova> hullo
[06:56] <mike-e> E: webmin-inetd: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:56] <distant> does anyone know of a nice system monitor to run on my desktop (gnome)
[06:56] <s_spiff> bddebian, thanks man
[06:56] <chuckyp> distant, gdesklets
[06:56] <mordof> distant, gnome already has a system monitor
[06:56] <bddebian> s_spiff: NP
[06:57] <mordof> chuckyp, nah gdesklets are buggy
[06:57] <siriusnova> can anyone help me getting dri to work on my ibm thinkpad t30, it has a radeon 7500 M7 Mobility and i just cant get dri to work,
[06:57] <stian> my nm-applet is buggy :(
[06:57] <siriusnova> im using 5.10
[06:57] <iGotNoTime> distant, my monitor is a samsung LOL
[06:57] <mordof> distant, click add to panel, and then there is a system monitor in there..
[06:57] <mike-e> can anyone tell me how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10133 - using synaptec to remove the broken packages doesn't work, it gives me: E: webmin-inetd: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:57] <thelsdj> anyone else have a noticable lag when opening up a new terminal because of the time it takes to update /var/log/wtmp?
[06:58] <defrysk> mike-e, go to edit tab and select fix broken packages
[06:58] <iGotNoTime> so nobody has had their video files play back too fast?
[06:58] <mordof> iGotNoTime, nope
[06:58] <defrysk> mike-e, in synaptic that is
[06:58] <distant> I don't see it in there
[06:58] <thelsdj> takes nearly 5 seconds for bash prompt to come up!
[06:58] <s_spiff> guys anyone here installed audacious player?
[06:58] <mordof> thelsdj, mine opens instantely :( sorry
[06:58] <thelsdj> :(
[06:58] <distant> oh I see it
[06:58] <thelsdj> wonder whats up with that
[06:58] <distant> but I want something more detailed
[06:59] <distant> with network, ram, etc
[06:59] <mike-e> defrysk : ok then?
[06:59] <s_spiff> also... how do i install fonts? i got the ms default fonts ..ina folder on my desktop...how to install those?
[06:59] <_jason> !fonts
[06:59] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:59] <Celeste> hi
[06:59] <s_spiff> _jason, thanks
[06:59] <Celeste> how can I flush the DNS cach please?
[07:00] <defrysk> mike-e, in synaptic that is
[07:01] <defrysk> mike-e, kliked fix broken packages ?
[07:01] <defrysk> sorry for typos
[07:02] <mordof> how do i md5 a file?
[07:02] <sybariten> evening
[07:02] <defrysk> md5sum file
[07:02] <mordof> ty
[07:02] <s_spiff> anyone tried the audacious player?
[07:02] <sybariten> i made a bin dir in my homedir ... whats the best place to implement that it should be in the path every time i log in over SSH ?
[07:02] <mike-e> audacity?
[07:02] <s_spiff> hold on
[07:03] <adamh> I'm looking to buy a new laptop. How well would an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 do with 3D acceleration on Linux?
[07:03] <s_spiff> mike-e, its at http://www.audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page
[07:03] <sybariten> or, in other words: i have some scripts etc that i want to use without supplying the whole path. How do i make sure
[07:03] <thelsdj> md5sum is a good test of your ram as i found out the other day, md5sum kept returning different checksums lol
[07:03] <sybariten> or, in other words: i have some scripts etc that i want to use without supplying the whole path. How do i make sure ~/bin is in the path in each bash session ?
[07:03] <EvilDin> how to install compat-libstdc++-33 on ubuntu
[07:03] <_jason> sybariten: look at ~/.bash_profile, I *think* that gets sourced when you login over ssh.  If not, just put it in ~/.bashrc
[07:04] <defrysk> s_spiff, just use beep media player
[07:04] <mike-e> hmm
[07:04] <mike-e> no i haven't, i will though
[07:04] <bluesky> anyone know why /sbin/service doesn't exist on ubuntu ?
[07:04] <mike-e> i like bmp over xmms, so what could another fork possibly go wrong.
[07:04] <jae_> hello all
[07:04] <adamh> bluesky: Because it doesn't :P
[07:04] <adamh> bluesky: It's a Red Hat thing
[07:04] <bluesky> adamh : ahah, and I need to restard the iptables service
[07:04] <sybariten> _jason: thank you!
[07:05] <bluesky> how can I do that ?
[07:05] <adamh> bluesky: On ubuntu, use /etc/init.d/[whatever]  start|stop|restart|etc
[07:05] <s_spiff> defrysk, i wanted to ...but someone yesterday suggsted..that this is much better besides i checkd pout on the forums...i found a lot of people sayin that audacious is a better player..but no where could i find a way to install it!
[07:05] <defrysk> mike-e, try to stay away from non ubuntu packages
[07:05] <thelsdj> sybariten: ~/.bashrc changes will take effect as soon as you open new shell,w hile ~/.bash_profile only gets sourced on login i believe
[07:05] <Soliko> I am looking for a good linux, is Ubuntu good for me?
[07:05] <bluesky> ahah ok thanks adamh
[07:05] <EvilDin> am compat-libstdc++-33 is red hat thing what should i use for ubuntu
[07:05] <adamh> bluesky: np, but I don't think "restart iptables" is really what you want to do. The only *real* way to restart iptables is to reboot...
[07:05] <sybariten> thelsdj:  ah, there i got an answer to the difference between them too ... splendid
[07:05] <mike-e> defrysk : yeah i noticed, hence my apt problems.
[07:05] <adamh> Unless "iptables" refers to the default firewall rules...
[07:05] <s_spiff> defrysk, only problem is that the dependecies of audacious is like crazy! and synaptic apparently cant install those packages!
[07:05] <GITANA> HELO
[07:06] <Soliko> any one can tell me y ubuntu???
[07:06] <defrysk> s_spiff, you too stay away from non ubuntu packages ;)
[07:07] <bluesky> adamh: well I found a script to pass from LowID to HighID behind a NAT, and it has a /sbin/service iptables restart
[07:07] <ads_> Crap!! Please help I killed my clock applet and now that I have rebooted it's gone. How do I go about getting it back please? Thanks.
[07:07] <defrysk> s_spiff, and any idiot can write any crap in every forum so be carefull with that and stick to the official ubuntu pages
[07:08] <sybariten> Soliko: hmmmmmm...??
[07:08] <adamh> bluesky: Probably best *not* to use that script, then. You can most likely find an equivalent script better-suited for Ubuntu on the Ubuntu forums.
[07:08] <bluesky> adamh: ok, searching..
[07:08] <zAo^> does anyone have a DEB of the new Gimpshop? thanks!
[07:09] <_jason> ads_: right click on the panel > add to panel > clock
[07:09] <ads_> _jason: thanks I will try it now
[07:10] <ads_> _jason: thanks a lot it worked. Just one question related though, since I killed it via "top" how would I go about bringing back a process I killed?
[07:10] <_jason> ads_: what did you kill?
[07:10] <ads_> clock applet
[07:11] <ads_> although its back now since i added it to panel the way you said
[07:11] <Grark> Whew.
[07:11] <Grark> Finally got FTPD working.
[07:11] <_jason> ads_: I suppose you would press ALT+F2 and run the command
[07:11] <ads_> i see
[07:11] <Grark> but I have some general questions...is there a set "home" for ftp?
[07:11] <paul__> hey all
[07:11] <HappyFool> processes are not `resurrectable' via top; you need to restart them
[07:11] <Grark> Where do I edit FTPUsers, is it generic? or app specific?
[07:11] <sybariten> by the way; i noticed i already had a path-adding-statement for bin in my .bash_profile    *ehmm*   so there was never any problem
[07:12] <_jason> sybariten: it's commented though
[07:12] <_jason> sybariten: at least I think it is
[07:12] <thomas`> anyone here manage to install updated nvidia drivers on there ubuntu 5.10? i need a bit of help setting this up.
[07:12] <_jason> !nvidia
[07:12] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:12] <sybariten> _jason: no, it wasnt, i probably removed that comment if there was one ... in other words, i had already fixed what i came here asking about
[07:12] <mikebot> does an ftp client thing come already installed in ubuntu?
[07:12] <DVSoftware> hi
[07:12] <sybariten> HOWEVER ... it does not use the EXPORT-command, as is often done when people explain how to use path
[07:12] <_jason> sybariten: ah so it works then?
[07:12] <DVSoftware> is there any faster dapper mirror than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <lucas_> what is your favourite media player
[07:13] <sybariten> _jason: yes, it worked all the time, forgot to check     *blush*
[07:13] <samuel> do you speak italian?
[07:13] <DVSoftware> i get approx 30kb/s
[07:13] <mikebot> does ubuntu come with an ftp program installed, that is
[07:13] <ReWT_AxS> if im manually starting thw internet, what commands do i use?
[07:13] <DVSoftware> but i need it within 1 hour
[07:13] <DVSoftware> this will last 5 hrs
[07:13] <HappyFool> mikebot: an easy answer is firefox (browse to ftp://ftp.blah.com)
[07:13] <samuel> do you speak italian?
[07:13] <thomas`> that doesnt tell me how to update drivers
[07:13] <Grark> !ftpd
[07:13] <ubotu> Grark: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:13] <thomas`> synaptic only has 7667
[07:13] <imachine> lucas_, mplayer <3
[07:13] <HappyFool> !it
[07:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:13] <GFDL> samuel, why do you want something who speaks italian IN AN ENGLISH SPEAKING CHANNEL AH?
[07:13] <mikebot> HappyFool: thanks
[07:13] <thomas`> i want driver version 8178 newest one atleast.. heh
[07:13] <sybariten> this is the statement it uses   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"    which is logical to mee, it makes the PATH variable contain somedir + PATH ....  but when's the need to do that export-thing ?
[07:13] <thomas`> 7667 comes with ubuntu 5.10
[07:13] <Madpilot> mikebot, Nautilus does basic FTP stuff
[07:14] <nerv> hi
[07:15] <DVSoftware> please, any faster dapper mirror?
[07:15] <adamh> sybariten: If you don't type "export" it'll only last until the command/script is done.
[07:15] <samuel> nervetto
[07:15] <samuel> parli italiano?
[07:15] <adamh> sybariten: "export" puts it in the environment.
[07:15] <Madpilot> !it
[07:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:15] <boz> join #ubuntu-meeting
[07:15] <sybariten> adamh: ok ... and in this case, in the .bash_profile   ......?
[07:15] <boz> lol
[07:15] <HappyFool> adamh: not quite; export causes it to be 'exported' to processes started by the shell
[07:16] <adamh> HappyFool: Ah, good to know, thank :)
[07:16] <imachine> boz, spam ;)
[07:16] <sybariten> ok
[07:16] <sybariten> same here more or less
[07:16] <imachine> theres nothing wrong with the c-shell [;
[07:16] <imachine> bash is unnecesary imho ^^
[07:17] <imachine> btw, substituting dash for /bin/sh seems to cause weird error messages at times.
[07:17] <imachine> is it even recommended?
[07:18] <DVSoftware> :(
[07:18] <crimsun> cyphase: yes, network-manager is in main
[07:18] <HappyFool> imachine: dash's package description suggests that bash is preferred for interactive use
[07:18] <crimsun> cyphase: and please, don't blurt out in the meeting
[07:19] <cyphase> crimsun, i know, i didn't think before i spoke
[07:19] <cyphase> sorry :)
[07:19] <erUSUL> imachine, some do not think like you http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/
[07:19] <HappyFool> sackcloth and ashes for you, sonny
[07:19] <imachine> HappyFool, yes ofcourse; i was merely wondering if the dpkg-reconfigure dash option is wise to choose, that is substituting it for /bin/sh. it claims to be quicker ;)
[07:20] <imachine> erUSUL, i am aware; world would be a pretty dull place then again if all people thought alike ;-)
[07:20] <imachine> but i hardly find it an issue anyway ^^
[07:20] <roico> my cd-burner (samsung SW-252B) works slower on ubuntu than on windows... how can i fix that?
[07:20] <DVSoftware> please, is there a faster dapper flight5 mirror?
[07:20] <crimsun> DVSoftware: try se.archive.ubuntu.com's mirro
[07:20] <s_spiff> DVSoftware, i think all the mirrors will be equally loaded...cuz many are having a run for it..
[07:20] <imachine> erUSUL, ah, lol, this is programming in csh.
[07:21] <imachine> erUSUL, ofcourse, i meant interactive use.
[07:21] <imachine> programming should be done in sh.
[07:21] <s_spiff>  by da way...was anyone present at the ubuntu-meeting today?
[07:21] <DVSoftware> s_spiff: but i need iso
[07:21] <_jason> s_spiff: the delay one is going on right now (part 2)
[07:21] <DVSoftware> not repository
[07:21] <s_spiff> cool
[07:21] <Madpilot> DVSoftware, I got the flight5 ISO in about 4hrs with BitTorrent a day or two ago
[07:22] <VictorFade> hello
[07:22] <DVSoftware> Madpilot: problem is that i can't use bittorent
[07:22] <DVSoftware> university packet filter is blocking p2p traffic
[07:22] <roico> my cd-burner (samsung SW-252B) works slower on ubuntu than on windows... how can i fix that?
[07:22] <jetscreamer> enable dma for it
[07:23] <jetscreamer> unless it already is
[07:23] <roico> whats DMA?
[07:23] <jetscreamer> direct memory access i think but i forget
[07:24] <Madpilot> !tell roico about dma
[07:24] <jetscreamer> !dma
[07:24] <jetscreamer> ah
[07:24] <roico> and how do i enable it?
[07:24] <Madpilot> roico, see the URL the bot just sent you
[07:24] <roico> ok htanks
[07:26] <jetscreamer> by using the very dangerous if you misuse it program named hdparm
[07:26] <Malin> thanks for removing the ban for neoplus :-)
[07:27] <roico> should i enable it for both my DVD-playuer and my CD-burner?
[07:27] <edm> roico, you should know what DMA is.
[07:27] <Symok> I downloaded DivX for linux (from DivX site) but I can't run the install.sh script
[07:27] <Madpilot> roico, might as well
[07:27] <edm> No, only enable DMA on drives that you want to work quickly.
[07:28] <Symok> Ive been looking at the install thing from the faq but I'm not quite following it
[07:28] <jetscreamer> like your cd and dvd and hd
[07:28] <jetscreamer> but hey don't mess around, you can really bork stuff with hdparm if you mess up
[07:28] <jetscreamer> KNOW
[07:28] <roico> what coukld happen?
[07:29] <jetscreamer> heh
[07:29] <jetscreamer> i never tried to find out
[07:29] <jetscreamer> man hdparm it might say
[07:29] <jetscreamer> Symok: just add that repo that has w32codecs and it should have divx you can install via apt-get i believe (could be wrong)
[07:30] <DVSoftware> jetscreamer: you shouldn't mess with linux at all if hdparm is 'very dangerous' thing to you
[07:30] <jetscreamer> -_-
[07:30] <felix_> Ah the chat canal ... I am toally new to umbutu and say HELLOOO to all UMBUTU friends
[07:30] <Symok> jetscreamer, what is 'repo'?
[07:31] <roico> so should i do it for all my drives?
[07:31] <jetscreamer> repository
[07:31] <jetscreamer> !easysource
[07:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:31] <DVSoftware> roico: all except satas
[07:32] <roico> whats satas?
[07:32] <Symok> ah, ok... *goes looking*
[07:32] <Madpilot> roico, SATA drives don't do DMA
[07:32] <roico> ahh ok... lol...
[07:32] <HappyFool> linux kernel doesn't do dma on sata drives, i'd say
[07:33] <Madpilot> HappyFool, I don't think (from what I've read) that SATA drives do DMA at all (not sure, though)
[07:33] <HappyFool> Madpilot: i'd be *really* skeptical of that; otherwise the CPU needs to handle all i/o from the drives
[07:33] <roico> what about floppys/windows partitions (FAT32)/swap
[07:34] <edm> felix_, what is UMBUTU and where can I get it?
[07:34] <jetscreamer> ubuntu
[07:34] <edm> jetscreamer, bless you.
[07:34] <malt> what is a MYSQL Control Center is it like something to make it easyer to control mysql like a gui?
[07:35] <bddebian> malt: Try SQylog
[07:35] <DVSoftware> phpmyadmin
[07:35] <DVSoftware> lol
[07:35] <GFDL> when are the new ISO images fixing the root security bug out?
[07:35] <pitti> GFDL: will be discussed in tonight's TB meeting
[07:36] <GFDL> pitti, thanks
[07:36] <felix_> oh UBUNTU sorry i was so exited ......
[07:36] <HappyFool> roico: i doubt dma on floppies is possible (or worth it). it's probably enabled on your hard-drive already, and you need to manually enable it on cd/dvd drives (where it usually *is* worth it).
[07:36] <malt> i have ubuntu on my old pc running apache with php well i want to get mysql installed now and i was wondering does MYSQL Control Center make it easyer to control mysql like accounts and dbs and all that
[07:37] <mfb__> malt > phpmydmin crtainly does
[07:37] <malt> but i already have apache with php installed i was just wondering what does MYSQL Control Center do?
[07:37] <felix_> So thanks for the talk time ... i have to learn how to use my ubuntu ... cheers everyone
[07:38] <Andrew|> unusual question - how do i change the screen res? my old monitor is all fuzzy at 1024*768
[07:39] <phiber_optic> Andrew system->preferences->screen resolution
[07:39] <HappyFool> Andrew|: have you tried System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution ?
[07:39] <Andrew|> ok thanks
[07:41] <Symok> Hmm... I added the other repositories, but I don't see anything in the audio/video that looks like a codec pack
[07:42] <tristanmike> !tell Symok about w32codecs
[07:46] <ubuntu> ola
[07:46] <cheese23> hey yall
[07:46] <ibob63> is there another program in ubuntu that does the job of kibitz?
[07:47] <cheese23> so guys i'm somewhat new to ubuntu and i can't figure out how to enable my onboard sound device..any help?
[07:49] <Dre> hello, I have just installed ubuntu and when I system was booting, I had this black screen. heard the drum beat and there was this black screen
[07:49] <mordof> cheese23, have you checked your motherboard manufacturers website for linux drivers?
[07:49] <Dre> typed my username + password, heard the music
[07:49] <Dre> and still the black screen
[07:49] <mordof> Dre, your video card is not displaying on the correct screen, do you have another monitor (possibly s-video or something) plugged in?
[07:49] <cheese23> not yet mordof
[07:49] <mordof> cheese23, try that
[07:50] <Elyxi> what can the problem be when i cant dl torrent files in ubuntu its new installed i get connected to the files but the downloading dosent start
[07:50] <Dre> no I don't mordof
[07:50] <mordof> Elyxi, are you sure you have sources for the file?
[07:50] <Dre> how am I gonna fix this problem?
[07:50] <Dre> I'm on a laptop
[07:50] <Elyxi> mordof about 200 sources :P
[07:50] <mordof> Dre, is this machine at your house? can it possibly be connected with your other computer
[07:51] <mordof> Elyxi, possibly try getting another torrent client?
[07:51] <Elyxi> mordof already tested 3
[07:51] <Elyxi> same problem with all
[07:51] <Dre> I am at work.. I have another computer beside me BUT I installed Ubuntu on this laptop I'm using which now I run winXP
[07:51] <mordof> Dre, because you can always use your laptop to ssh into your computer that the display isn't working on, and try installing other drivers
[07:51] <mordof> Elyxi, possibly you have ports that need to be forwarded?
[07:52] <Elyxi> i just use a regular modem
[07:52] <Dre> is it because of me not installing the drivers on windows first?
[07:52] <mordof> Elyxi, i am not sure.. it seems most people are at the meeting.. so i'm trying to help people
[07:52] <Dre> cause I did not install any drivers in windows
[07:52] <mordof> Dre, windows has nothing to do with linux
[07:52] <Dre> after installing a fresh copy of windows i installed ubuntu
[07:52] <mordof> Dre, linux uses basic drivers for your video card.. they aren't working properly, what video card does it have?
[07:52] <ktogias> Hi. i am willing to fill in some translations in ubuntu installation cd installer for greek language. I am looking in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/el , but con not find out the installer package. Isn't it listed there? How can I help with the installer translation?
[07:53] <graveson> is vmware available ,how come i cannot find it on he syaptics packet manager
[07:53] <cheese23> can you install new drivers in ubuntu without a floppy?
[07:54] <mordof> ktogias, there is a meeting currently going on, alot of people are there.. if you could wait in here for a bit until the experts start coming back in, im sure someone would know... the community can always use help in translating stuff
[07:54] <mordof> cheese23, of course, there are always alternatives
[07:54] <HappyFool> ktogias: if you don't get an answer here, perhaps you can ask on #ubuntu-devel (though as mordof says, there's a community meeting going on)
[07:54] <mordof> graveson, have you tried installing the universe and multiverse repos yet?
[07:54] <Andrew|> hey folks, how do i change the clock?
[07:54] <cheese23> hmm no floppy...
[07:54] <Dre> Graphics Driver for ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Chipset
[07:54] <Dre> this is my graphics card
[07:54] <mordof> Andrew|, right click, either properties or change time
[07:54] <cheese23> so then mordof looks like i'll need to buy a new round floppy cable
[07:55] <mordof> Dre, ooo, a weird one.. i have nvidia.. i've heard ati is tricky
[07:55] <mordof> cheese23, why do you need to buy a floppy?
[07:55] <HappyFool> !ati
[07:55] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:55] <Dre> oh no
[07:55] <GFDL> Dre, that card works in breezy
[07:55] <Dre> is there a way of deleting ubuntu now
[07:55] <Andrew|> mordof - thanks :)
[07:55] <GFDL> Dre, I am using it now
[07:55] <mordof> Dre, ok, i guess it is supported :P sorry for the scare
[07:55] <cheese23> you did say installing new drivers in ubuntu a floppy is the only way right?
[07:55] <HappyFool> Dre: i recommend trying the first link there (wiki.ubuntu.com/...)
[07:55] <mordof> Andrew|, np
[07:55] <jon__> GFDL, I have ATI Xpress 200 also, but I can't seem to get 3d acceleration to work.  how did you?
[07:56] <mordof> cheese23, no i said there are many other ways to install stuff
[07:56] <cheese23> ahh yes
[07:56] <cheese23> indubidably
[07:56] <avoine> hi, someone know how add argument to X at startup? like -query 192.168.0.1 dor remote Xserveur
[07:56] <GFDL> jon__, I installed the following package
[07:56] <HappyFool> not to mention that windows sound drivers probably won't help
[07:56] <mordof> brb
[07:56] <graveson> mordof: i have enabled all the repos in the source file ,is there something additional i need to do
[07:57] <mordof> graveson, i am not sure..
[07:57] <Dre> oh yeah by the way I am using 5.04
[07:57] <mordof> should get 5.10..
[07:57] <Dre> I don't see how the link can help me troubleshooting my display problem
[07:57] <GFDL> ii  fglrx64-6-8-0                     8.13.4-2                          XFree86 display driver for the ATI graphics
[07:57] <mordof> Dre, no it is to download new drivers, i can help you install them if it tells you how
[07:57] <Dre> mordof : how do i delete ubuntu without screwing up my bootloader
[07:57] <jon__> GFDL, What package?
[07:57] <jon__> ah
[07:57] <jon__> nvm
[07:58] <mordof> Dre, you have a windows xp cd right?
[07:58] <HappyFool> !tell cheese23 about sound
[07:58] <Dre> since now I have 2 OS in my lappy and ubuntu does not work
[07:58] <Dre> yes I do
[07:58] <jetscreamer> rm -fr /
[07:58] <jetscreamer> :o
[07:58] <cheese23> Windows 9X/ME/NT4/2000/2003/XP 32/64bit these are my only manufacturer audio driver supported os's
[07:58] <GFDL> you need to transform the rpm from ati to .deb format with alien
[07:58] <jetscreamer> Dre: ^^
[07:58] <HappyFool> cheese23: i'd recommend reading that wiki page for help with sound
[07:58] <jetscreamer> err R not r
[07:58] <graveson> anuone can help me on how to install vmware
[07:58] <jetscreamer> or just format it
[07:58] <Madpilot> jetscreamer, not amusing - besides, that wouldn't work w/o 'sudo'...
[07:58] <cheese23> ty happy
[07:58] <jetscreamer> hey he asked
[07:58] <mordof> Dre, iirc, windows xp comes with an option to fix the boot (fixboot or something).. that may work once you have taken out ubuntu.. possibly download gparted live cd.. and then you can get rid of linux from there
[07:59] <Dre> oh okie
[07:59] <mordof> Dre, however, your problem is not too difficult to solve if you have the right resources
[07:59] <jetscreamer> you wnat your xp bootloader back? boot a w9x ebd and run fdisk /mbr
[07:59] <jetscreamer> or a cd, or the xp install cd and choose 'repair'
[07:59] <Dre> so i use the liveCD of ubuntu to delete ubuntu installed in my hdd and then use the XP cd to fix boot?
[07:59] <mordof> or gparted live cd
[07:59] <jetscreamer> no don't bother erasing ubuntu
[07:59] <lucas_> Is there any way I can make VLC look better? Like a proper GTK2 player?
[08:00] <mordof> Dre, but you can still get it working
[08:00] <jetscreamer> just format the partition after you get xp back
[08:00] <mordof> ohh, right. you don't need to whipe out ubuntu first. you can just restore winxp's mbr
[08:00] <Dre> how do I do that again?
[08:00] <bart__> Hi all
[08:01] <wuzzy> hi! today when i got home i can't boot my ubunu! it goes black after i choose ubuntu from the grub menu. then it loads the hd for a while and then stops. thats it. xp boots fine. can i enable some logging or something?
[08:01] <mordof> use the xp install cd and choose repair
[08:01] <Dre> okie dokie
[08:01] <Dre> gimme a min
[08:01] <chuckyp> Dre, off the xp cd its called fixmbr
[08:01] <mordof> Dre, yeah what chuckyp said.. you will be able to choose that command after you enter repair in the install menu
[08:01] <chuckyp> wuzzy, you can select recovery mode singl user?
[08:01] <wuzzy> chalcedony, yep but its the same
[08:02] <chuckyp> wuzzy, then run the command to check the file system or flag it to be checked
[08:02] <Dre> so I have to boot with wind0ze's CD?
[08:02] <wuzzy> chuckyp, can i select that from grub?
[08:02] <lucas_> Is there any other (better looking) media player that has VLC's functionality
[08:03] <chuckyp> wuzzy, yes should be an option
[08:03] <_jason> lucas_: you can skin mplayer
[08:03] <HappyFool> ktogias: have you seen this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslationTeam ?
[08:03] <lucas_> But can it really look good?
[08:03] <chuckyp> wuzzy, when you get to the grub menu right under the normal kernel there should be a recovery mode.
[08:03] <techrush> ive seen some nice mplayer skins yes
[08:03] <wuzzy> chuckyp, ok i'll try.. how can i tell if it is a hd issue? i suspect one of my hds is failing on e.. it says missing interrups and so on i dmseg the last weeks..
[08:03] <cheese23> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2090..any help with realtek audio?
[08:04] <cheese23> oss
[08:04] <crimsun> cheese23: erm, it's already resolved, no?
[08:05] <chuckyp> wuzzy, wuzzy you can fsck it.
[08:05] <_jason> lucas_: look at the skins here http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[08:06] <cheese23> well then i guess i have a bastard child of a motherboard
[08:06] <ReWT_> my integrated isnt working anymore after using a diff. distro live cd
[08:06] <ReWT_> ?
[08:06] <wuzzy> chuckyp, do you meen the recovery option in grub? that gives the same result..
[08:06] <obli> psycho_oreos, I'm back, the installer didn't manage to nume the NTFS drive...
[08:06] <lucas_> So there is no way to make VLC look better?
[08:06] <obli> :(
[08:06] <obli> *nuke
[08:07] <obli> Is there any tool I can use to just erase the MBR and start from scratch?
[08:07] <_jason> lucas_: I think vlc is skinnable too, but not the version in the repos
[08:07] <ReWT_> why would my ndiswrapper not be working anymore?
[08:08] <lucas_> any way of making it GTK2
[08:08] <HappyFool> obli: do you want to get windows back?
[08:08] <fiveiron> do you have to have compiz for xgl to work?
[08:08] <obli> nope
[08:08] <fiveiron> k.. didn't think so ... but i wanted to check
[08:08] <obli> I just want to use my 80 gb hard drive, currently infested with NTFS
[08:08] <cheese23> shall i just buy a supported soundcard?
[08:08] <fiveiron> oh rofl...
[08:08] <fiveiron> nm
[08:08] <Fjodor> Does anyone know about running different distros in a chroot under ubuntu?
[08:08] <cheese23> i refuse to return to windows
[08:09] <HappyFool> obli: erasing the mbr is not all that hard, but i think it's probably a bad idea
[08:09] <cheese23> i'm just not a mainstream type of guy
[08:09] <chuckyp> obli, just sudo cfdisk /<device>  delete the ntfs partition and write the changes.  THe create a fat32 partition and wite hte changes
[08:09] <obli> linux is installed on hda, my 80 gb is hdd
[08:10] <cheese23> any ideas on any good cheep pci soundcards that support most modern linux distros?
[08:10] <ajmitch> cheese23: what sound card & realtek codec does it use?
[08:10] <HappyFool> cheese23: unfortunately the real gurus (e.g., crimsun) are busy in a meeting; maybe you can get better help a bit later or tomorrow
[08:10] <chuckyp> obli, okay well sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[08:10] <chuckyp> obli, and delete it
[08:10] <cheese23> brb with that ajmitch
[08:10] <obli> ok, neat
[08:10] <Jemt> Uhm where can I see which modules is loaded on my computer? I don't have X installed
[08:10] <obli> primary of logical when creating a new one?
[08:12] <roico> for people who remember me, turning on DMA worked, thanks a lot... :)
[08:12] <chuckyp> Jemt, lsmod
[08:12] <Jemt> chuckyp: Ah, thanks
[08:12] <nidah> hi
[08:12] <nidah> newbie here
[08:12] <nidah> using ubuntu
[08:12] <nidah> loking for assistance re dvd's
[08:13] <chuckyp> nidah, ask
[08:13] <LasseL> !dvd
[08:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:13] <cheese23> Realtek ALC655 6 Channel Audio Codec ajmitch
[08:13] <nidah> ok so my totem player is able to play dvd 's but the quality is real jerky what can i do to fix the issue
[08:14] <Fjodor> Anyone with chroot experience at all?
[08:14] <chuckyp> nidah,  in the wiki on the restricted format page they discuss jerky play back
[08:14] <chuckyp> !restricted
[08:14] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:14] <obli> chuckyp, what do I do after deleting the partition?
[08:14] <obli> to get a usable fat32
[08:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell nidah about dma
[08:14] <chuckyp> obli, write the changes
[08:14] <nidah> sorry come again?
[08:14] <nidah> what is wiki?
[08:14] <chuckyp> obli, you then should have a blank drive
[08:14] <obli> yup, done
[08:14] <nidah> what is dma
[08:14] <chuckyp> obli, okay now create a partition
[08:15] <chuckyp> obli, and after you create it you want to set the type to fat32
[08:15] <HappyFool> nidah: this web-page will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:15] <obli> in cfdisk?
[08:15] <obli> logical or primary?
[08:15] <Jemt> I need to load the module 'isofs.o' in order to create a Linux live CD. How do I do that? I have performed a server install
[08:15] <chuckyp> obli, in cfdisk you want to make a primary
[08:15] <pdkl> im installing ruby gems, and i get an error about it not being able to find zlib. i have zlib-ruby installed.
[08:15] <chuckyp> obli, then if you hit the right arrow you can highlight type and hit enter.
[08:16] <ajmitch> cheese23: and what sound card? realtek codecs are used with a variety of different sound drivers
[08:16] <cheese23> ok biostar tforce 6100 939 with Realtek ALC655 6 Channel Audio Codec
[08:16] <cheese23> onboard audio on this board
[08:17] <ajmitch> doesn't tell me what sound driver it might use
[08:17] <cheese23> i have like a legacy soundcard from 1994 buit i'm sure traht isn't supported either ajmitch
[08:17] <HappyFool> pdkl: maybe it needs 'zlib1g-dev' (C header files and libs) if it access C calls directly (I don't know ruby at all)
[08:17] <chuckyp> obli, then select fat32 or vfat whatever the option is.
[08:17] <suppaman> hi
[08:17] <chuckyp> obli, then write that to the disk and you can now exit.
[08:17] <chuckyp> obli, only thing left is to format the disk
[08:17] <ice> trying to get freenx for dapper
[08:17] <ice> anyone know how
[08:17] <Chodder> !cowsay
[08:17] <ubotu> Chodder: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:18] <suppaman> is there a way to not get an error when quitting a vnc session with Applications->Internet->Client Terminal Server ?
[08:18] <HappyFool> !freenx
[08:18] <ubotu> [freenx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:18] <ice> yeah that doesn't have the dapper package
[08:18] <ice> only breezy and horay
[08:18] <obli> ok, Disk manager, I guess, chuckyp ?
[08:18] <cheese23> nVIDIA nFORCE4 C19/MCP51
[08:18] <HappyFool> oh, dapper. sorry, i don't know
[08:19] <chuckyp> obli, did you set the type to fat32?
[08:19] <obli> yes
[08:19] <chuckyp> obli, and did you write it?
[08:19] <obli> yes
[08:19] <chuckyp> obli, okay now we format I think its mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd1 or whatever the partion is.
[08:20] <cheese23> http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20939/tforce6100-939/product_details.php this is the mobo's website
[08:20] <x128> how can i record the screen for a movie under x11 - but no vnc?
[08:20] <chuckyp> obli, you can chekc which partition number it is by sudo fdisk -l
[08:20] <nidah> how do i find out what dev is what i have a cd rom and a dvd rom
[08:20] <obli> ok
[08:20] <chuckyp> nidah, sudo fdisk -l
[08:21] <chuckyp> nidah, sry that wasn't meant for you.
[08:21] <glassjawuk> hey you guys
[08:21] <cheese23> ajmitch
[08:21] <cheese23> ?
[08:21] <HappyFool> nidah: what does 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' say ?
[08:21] <suppaman> HappyFool: thanks, that was for me
[08:21] <ice> !remote desktop
[08:21] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ice
[08:21] <HappyFool> nidah: sorry, you need to run that in a terminal
[08:21] <chuckyp> nidah, you can cat /etc/fstab it may be in there.
[08:22] <obli> chuckyp, vfat in fstab, right?
[08:22] <dr_kabuto>  /join #ubuntu-meeting
[08:22] <HappyFool> nidah: it's best to keep the chat in here, that way others can correct my mistakes
[08:22] <chuckyp> obli, no sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd#  < substitute your number there.
[08:22] <nidah> all very confusing come again
[08:22] <chuckyp> obli, in terminal
[08:22] <gnomefreak> dr_kabuto: meeting is over
[08:22] <obli> done that
[08:22] <chuckyp> ok
[08:22] <chuckyp> obli, now to mount it
[08:23] <HappyFool> nidah: you should have an 'Applications' menu in the top left corner of your screen
[08:23] <HappyFool> nidah: in that menu, follow 'Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal'
[08:24] <chuckyp> obli, do you have a folder to mount the drive to?  i.e. /media/storage or something similiar?
[08:24] <nidah> i dont have fstab under etc
[08:24] <obli> yeah, I was thinking /storage
[08:24] <chuckyp> obli, okay did you mkdir /storage ?
[08:24] <obli> doen
[08:24] <chuckyp> k
[08:24] <Andrew|> how can i view hdd space?
[08:24] <Jemt> Where is initrd located?
[08:25] <crimsun> Jemt: /boot/
[08:25] <cheese23> does anyone know or any linux soundblaster capable pci soundcards?
[08:25] <Jemt> crimsun: Thanks
[08:25] <_jason> Andrew|: df -h
[08:25] <chuckyp> obli, so you need to add a line like "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" to fstab
[08:25] <cheese23> ie to work with breezy?
[08:25] <nidah> /dev/cdrom->hdc
[08:25] <HappyFool> nidah: then the device is /dev/hdc
[08:26] <Andrew|> thnx
[08:26] <Wizz_kidd> i gots a problem ,,,,,,,
[08:26] <nidah> how to i find what my toher drive ie dvd rom is?
[08:26] <obli> as vfat?
[08:26] <chuckyp> obli, /dev/hdd1 /storage vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:26] <obli> dump and pass should be 0?
[08:26] <chuckyp> obli, that would make it accesible to anyone.
[08:26] <BigIsland> Is there a simple way to install Flash and Java support in the browser on Ubuntu 5.10 for AMD 64 or PPC?
[08:26] <nidah> how to i find what my other drive ie dvd rom is?
[08:26] <HappyFool> nidah: maybe 'ls -l /dev/dvd'
[08:26] <chuckyp> obli, if you want to lock it down more to like users or something let me know
[08:26] <obli> I'm the only user, so that's not a problem
[08:27] <chuckyp> obli, /dev/hdd1 /storage vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000     0     0
[08:27] <Wizz_kidd> i cant open up syntaptic or anything that rrequires root ........it comes up and ask me for your password then i wenter root password deosnt work then i try to open another root app doesnt even come up with a password box nothing happens
[08:27] <obli> ok
[08:27] <nidah> says the same thing hdc
[08:27] <chuckyp> obli, yeah I forgot dump and pass
[08:27] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?
[08:27] <chuckyp> obli, after you've added it the just sudo mount -a
[08:27] <Wizz_kidd> also i installed Opera on root i try to run it on my other account and it doesnt wiork
[08:27] <cheese23> hmm linux compatible sheep pci soundcards anyone?
[08:27] <nidah> should i assume my other drive is hdd?
[08:27] <obli> hey, it worked
[08:27] <chuckyp> obli, cool now it will mount on reboot
[08:28] <Wizz_kidd> jus gives me one of these ">
[08:28] <nidah> :(
[08:28] <Wizz_kidd> eido whoc hi'
[08:28] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: what is the output of 'groups'
[08:28] <HappyFool> nidah: do you have a cd in the other drive?
[08:28] <Wizz_kidd> >
[08:28] <nidah> i suck at linux
[08:28] <obli> awesome, now all I need is a program to read all the IDv3 tags on my mp3 and m4a files and rename them to something more suiable than the ipod names...
[08:28] <nidah> no should i put one in it
[08:28] <Wizz_kidd> what do you mean
[08:28] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: enter the command 'groups'
[08:28] <chuckyp> Wizz_kidd, log in a user and type in terminal "which opera"
[08:29] <HappyFool> nidah: yes, then run 'mount' to see if there are any mentions of cdrom devices
[08:29] <chuckyp> obli, mp3rename
[08:29] <chuckyp> obli, will rename based on id3
[08:29] <nidah> auto mounts
[08:29] <nickrud> obli: or easytag
[08:29] <Wizz_kidd> ok i entered group s now i see all the accounts
[08:29] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: paste it here please
[08:29] <HappyFool> nidah: it should, but you can use 'mount' to see what it is mounted as
[08:29] <Wizz_kidd> me adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[08:30] <nidah> how do i do that
[08:30] <obli> ok, I'll look for it
[08:30] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: is this the first user you created during the install?  and is this an expert install?
[08:30] <HappyFool> nidah: run 'mount' or 'mount|grep cdrom' and look at the output
[08:30] <obli> any idea on how to cicumvent the itunes DRM? I've got a few rare songs I suspect I'm not going to be able to play
[08:31] <jpablo> hey people, I'm trying to upgrade a mac mini from breezy to drapper but i get a md5 error in main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz when doing the apt-get update. any ideas ?
[08:31] <nidah> /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660
[08:31] <mike19803> Can anyone plese tell me where I can get the latest netinstall imapges please?
[08:31] <HappyFool> nidah: ok, now put it in the other drive and do the same thing
[08:31] <chuckyp> jpablo, are you using a cd or doing a net upgrade?
[08:31] <lastent> can anybody help me
[08:31] <jpablo> chuckyp, net
[08:31] <_jason> !helpme
[08:32] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:32] <chuckyp> jpablo, just make sure your soruces.list is right.
[08:32] <obli> how do I add all files in a folder into a zip file?
[08:32] <chuckyp> obli, gzip
[08:32] <nidah> nothing
[08:33] <mike4479> Can anyone plese tell me where I can get the latest netinstall imapges please?
[08:33] <obli> Gzip * <name>?
[08:33] <HappyFool> nidah: did it mount ?
[08:33] <HappyFool> nidah: i mean, automount ?
[08:33] <jpablo> chuckyp, I copied them from a url ...
[08:33] <chuckyp> jpablo, what url the official repos are here
[08:33] <chuckyp> !repos
[08:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:33] <nidah> yes it did an auto mount
[08:33] <mike4479> !netinstall
[08:33] <ubotu> mike4479: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:33] <jpablo> let's see
[08:33] <obli> !easyresource
[08:33] <chuckyp> nidah, cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[08:33] <ubotu> obli: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:33] <HappyFool> nidah: it's a cd, right?
[08:34] <mike4479> ubotu: ok thanks
[08:34] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mike4479
[08:34] <HappyFool> nidah: try 'mount|grep iso'
[08:34] <nidah> sorry i had a dvd movie in my dvd rom so im assuming hdc is my dvd rom drive
[08:34] <HappyFool> nidah: hrm
[08:34] <chuckyp> omg
[08:34] <edan> hi can anyone tell me whats solaris os ???
[08:34] <lastent> !xgl
[08:34] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:34] <chuckyp> nidah, yes that would be your secondary master
[08:34] <nidah> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
[08:34] <chuckyp> !sun
[08:34] <edan> hi can anyone tell me whats solaris os ???
[08:34] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[08:34] <nidah> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
[08:35] <jpablo> chuckyp, thanks, thoses lines worked.
[08:35] <HappyFool> nidah: well, i don't know which is which
[08:35] <bina> in kmix, how do you savew your volume settings? just tell it not to restore volume levels on login?
[08:35] <HappyFool> nidah: enable dma on both, anyway
[08:35] <nickrud> edan: sun.com
[08:35] <cheese23> solaris on idea
[08:35] <chuckyp> jpablo, np
[08:35] <jpablo> chuckyp, what's prefered ? apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[08:35] <nidah> doesnt matter i can enable dma on both right?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> edan: an operating system that should be talked about in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[08:35] <nidah> by editing hdparm
[08:35] <chuckyp> jpablo, doesn't matter make sure you sudo apt-get update then do like apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <edan> nickrud, been there dudnt really understaned....
[08:35] <HappyFool> nidah: yip
[08:35] <edan> gnomefreak, ok ssry
[08:36] <birdfish> Is there any way to download gnome for ubuntu?
[08:36] <Wizz_kidd> _jason, what do you mean yes it is the user i created during the install
[08:36] <schmity> whats the minimum space needed to install ubuntu?
[08:36] <birdfish> Or would I have to compile from source?
[08:36] <jetscreamer> more like by using hdparm
[08:36] <tristanmike> birdfish, gnome is Ubuntu
[08:36] <chuckyp> birdfish, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: did you choose 'expert install'?
[08:36] <Wizz_kidd> dont think so
[08:36] <birdfish> chuckyp: thanks :)
[08:36] <schmity> birdfish sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <wuzzy> hi! how do i remove the lame "animation" that occurs when i click an app-launcher from the top panel? (as an example, the firefox launcher)
[08:36] <schmity> whats the minimum space needed to install ubuntu?
[08:36] <chuckyp> wuzzy, animation?
[08:36] <birdfish> tritanmike: I installed server so that I didn't get all of the other packages.  I can't stand crap on my system :)
[08:37] <birdfish> shmity: thank you also =] 
[08:37] <chuckyp> wuzzy, the cursor wait?
[08:37] <mischko> How to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?
[08:37] <tristanmike> schlurchz, 1.8 gig, but I recommend at least 3
[08:37] <_jason> schmity: ~1.8gb
[08:37] <Wizz_kidd> this is annoying me
[08:37] <wuzzy> chuckyp: yeah, lines that kind of "scale" up" to the program windows.. ehh..
[08:37] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: well the reason your sudo isn't working is because you aren't a member of the admin group
[08:37] <jpablo> chuckyp, thanks a lot for the help. bye.
[08:37] <chuckyp> wuzzy, don't knwo what you are talking about?  are you running xgl?
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> how od i chnage that
[08:38] <schlurchz> tristanmike: erm, what?
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> do
[08:38] <tristanmike> sorry schlurchz that was for schmity
[08:38] <nidah> i wrote the following at the end of hdparm.conf :/dev/hdc {
[08:38] <nidah>    dma = on
[08:38] <nidah>    }
[08:38] <nidah> /dev/hdd {
[08:38] <nidah>    dma = on
[08:38] <nidah>    }
[08:38] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: did you enable root for some reason?
[08:38] <chuckyp> !paste
[08:38] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> enable ?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> nidah: use pastebin please
[08:38] <schlurchz> tristanmike: np
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> i logged onas root 1 time
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> logged
[08:38] <nidah> whats paste bin?
[08:38] <tristanmike> schlurchz, darn tab autocomplete
[08:38] <chuckyp> nidah, read what ubotu said
[08:38] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: ok, did you ever do 'sudo passwd root' to enable it?
[08:38] <nidah> ok
[08:38] <schlurchz> tristanmike: I guessed it :-)
[08:38] <wuzzy> chuckyp: yeah, but this is not part of compiz.. it feels "old", just like lines that give the illusion of thefirefox  winow coming from the panel
[08:38] <Wizz_kidd> no
[08:38] <cheese23> does anyone know how to bring up alsamixer settings?
[08:39] <natroll> looks like a 6-week delay on dapper is what's in the mix
[08:39] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: ok you probably did an expert install then.  su to root and put /etc/sudoers on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[08:39] <nidah> but i didnt put any #} sign before what i wrote
[08:39] <chuckyp> wuzzy, The effect you are talking about is an xgl thing.  Its like the menu is out of focus for a second is what you mean?
[08:39] <cheese23> terminal won't work
[08:39] <gnomefreak> natroll: hasnt been decided yet (you were there in meeting with me)
[08:39] <Wizz_kidd> i dont think i did an expert install
[08:39] <tristanmike> cheese23, it's sudo alsamixer
[08:39] <Wizz_kidd> it was pretty automatic ish
[08:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nidah about pastebin
[08:39] <chuckyp> cheese23, ctrl+alt+f2
[08:39] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: ok that's fine, we'll take care of it
[08:39] <natroll> gnomefreak, yeah, but supporters of the delay are at the top and just below the top
[08:39] <Wizz_kidd> but the cd had a bad sector and it didnt install a few things right
[08:39] <chuckyp> cheese23, and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x
[08:40] <natroll> gnomefreak, hence the 'looks like' :D
[08:40] <Wizz_kidd> so i had ot  do an apt-get to get the remaining packages
[08:40] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: just give me the link to your paste when you finish, I'll be back in a bit
[08:40] <Wizz_kidd> ok
[08:40] <chuckyp> Wizz_kidd, what is your problem?  Or what are you trying to do?
[08:41] <pdkl> how much ram can you have on a dual core processor (amd) ?
[08:41] <natroll> so anyone here got xgl working properly in dapper?
[08:41] <wuzzy> chuckyp: this is difficult to explain.. no its not like that.. it draws, first i small rectangle with blue lines, then it draws a bigger rectangle, and then a bigger one, do you follow?
[08:41] <chuckyp> pdkl, dunno how much will your mother board handle
[08:41] <tristanmike> pdkl, depends on the motherboard
[08:41] <pdkl> anything over 4 gigs
[08:41] <chuckyp> wuzzy, yes but I don' thave that problem
[08:41] <VictorFade> hi! anybody have configured vpn?
[08:41] <Wizz_kidd> i did, sudo root
[08:41] <^Odd^> !sources
[08:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:41] <Wizz_kidd> i entered the root password i set but it didnt work
[08:41] <cheese23> well chucky p not working
[08:41] <chuckyp> natroll, I was running it earlier
[08:42] <natroll> chuckyp, any issues?  what hardware?
[08:42] <nidah> its asking me for a name to send pastebin too
[08:42] <CrAzYoNi> I've a simple question, How can I extract a RAR file in linux?:\
[08:42] <cheese23> but i love the ctrl alt f2 sohorcut
[08:42] <tristanmike> nidah, yeah, just put your nick that you use here
[08:42] <natroll> oh poo i have a drs appointment today
[08:42] <chuckyp> Wizz_kidd, are you talking about he password it prompts you for when you type in sudo
[08:42] <wuzzy> chuckyp: strange, i haven't changed anything.. and xgl work perfect for me.. this dow not feel like xgl
[08:42] <VictorFade> CrAzYoNi, sudo apt-get install rar
[08:42] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: no, just type 'su'
[08:42] <Wizz_kidd> k that worked
[08:42] <techrush> CrAzYoNi you need install rar then use the command 'rar -e' i believe
[08:42] <schmity> is swap memory that needed?
[08:42] <wuzzy> wuzzy: its just simple, blue 1pixel rectangles..
[08:42] <tristanmike> !tell Wizz_kidd about rootsudo
[08:43] <VictorFade> !vpn
[08:43] <ubotu> VictorFade: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:43] <_jason> tristanmike: his sudo is broken
[08:43] <VictorFade> !
[08:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade
[08:43] <natroll> schmity, depends on your system
[08:43] <tristanmike> _jason, oh, sorry, my mistake
[08:43] <nidah> i think i posted
[08:43] <wuzzy> chuckyp:  its just simple, blue 1pixel rectangles..
[08:43] <Wizz_kidd> bash: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[08:43] <mischko> How to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?
[08:43] <CrAzYoNi> cool, thanks a lot :)
[08:43] <VictorFade> !pptp
[08:43] <Wizz_kidd> im in there as root
[08:43] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade
[08:43] <schmity> natroll: i got 10gb
[08:43] <chuckyp> wuzzy, don't have that on my screen.
[08:43] <natroll> of RAM?
[08:43] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: heh how can you get permission denied as root
[08:43] <Wizz_kidd> i dont know
[08:43] <VictorFade> !helpme vpn
[08:43] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VictorFade
[08:43] <nidah> did anyone get my paste?
[08:43] <cheese23> my mobo is ugly
[08:43] <wuzzy> chuckyp: ok, thanks anyway!
[08:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell VictorFade about msg the bot
[08:44] <katarot> hey
[08:44] <schmity> natroll: of HD space
[08:44] <chuckyp> _jason, cuz he's not root.
[08:44] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: how did you try to open it?
[08:44] <tristanmike> nidah, you have to paste the link here for people to see
[08:44] <Wizz_kidd> root@cpe-71-65-52-9:/home/me# /etc/sudoers
[08:44] <Wizz_kidd> bash: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[08:44] <VictorFade> gnomefreak, i don't need bot's help... i need real help
[08:44] <natroll> schmity, i mean, it depends on how much RAM you have and what you're doing with the system
[08:44] <CrAzYoNi> Though it is strange that apt-get tells me there is no rar package..
[08:44] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: it's a text file.  Try 'cat /etc/sudoers'
[08:44] <cheese23> help with turning off IEC?
[08:45] <katarot> anyone here had to use ndiswrapper im really puzzled with it
[08:45] <tritium> Wizz_kidd: visudo is used to edit /etc/sudoers.  However, if you want to give a user sudo priveleges, just add that user to the admin group.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> VictorFade: fist than dont play with the bot sencond here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD?highlight=%28vpn%29
[08:45] <nidah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10233
[08:45] <nidah> i think
[08:45] <gnomefreak> first*
[08:45] <afd_> hi! Anyone here that has experience with Xgl + Ati + compiz? I'd like to ask a few questions on this
[08:46] <ReWT_> i ran a live cd just a minute ago and i switched back over here to ubuntu and now when I try to start ndiswrapper, nothing happens?
[08:46] <tritium> afd_: that's a dapper question...please ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell afd_ about xgl
[08:46] <VictorFade> gnomefreak, thanks, i get it
[08:46] <Wizz_kidd> http://pastebin.com/602197
[08:46] <schmity> natroll: i got bout 128mb ram, and im gonna be doing high-end gaming
[08:46] <afd_> thanks guys
[08:46] <tritium> gnomefreak: yeah, that's even better :)
[08:46] <medhouny> salut
[08:47] <nidah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10235
[08:47] <katarot> i cant get it to work can i write what i have been doing because it really long like 21 line
[08:47] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: use the command 'visudo' and make it look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[08:47] <medhouny> comment on instal sur linux svp???
[08:47] <natroll> schmity, i doubt with 128 mb ram you'll be doing high-end gaming
[08:47] <Wizz_kidd> i jus want my user to be able to add apps n stuff
[08:47] <nidah> added a screeshot
[08:47] <tritium> Wizz_kidd: I already told you.  Add that user to the admin group.  Ne need to even use visudo.
[08:48] <nidah> just wanna know if i have it correct so i can save it
[08:48] <_jason> tritium: his sudoers does not have %admin blah in it
[08:48] <tritium> _jason: hmm, okay.  How did it end up like that?
[08:48] <ReWT_> any idea?
[08:48] <iceman> whats a kernel panic error ... saying no initrd mean
[08:48] <Wizz_kidd> :( 2 people telling me 2 different things me = getting cinfused
[08:48] <_jason> tritium: no idea
[08:48] <nidah> :(
[08:49] <_jason> tritium: expert install does that and he has a root account without using sudo passwd, but he does not think he did an expert install
[08:49] <tritium> iceman: did you compile your own kernel?
[08:49] <chuckyp> Wizz_kidd, your user can add apps just sudo apt-get or use synaptic
[08:49] <moyogo> hi
[08:49] <nidah> i think pastebin doesnt work
[08:49] <Wizz_kidd> i am trying to use synaptic
[08:49] <iceman> tritium custom insall yes ...
[08:49] <tritium> _jason: I see...
[08:49] <chuckyp> nidah, yes it does you click send then you copy the url
[08:49] <gnomefreak> nidah: why do you say that i saw your first post
[08:49] <Wizz_kidd> it pops up and says .......please enter your password im guessing it wants root password i enter it and nothing happens
[08:49] <tristanmike> nidah, I'd personally put it between the last 2 options
[08:49] <ragunath> hi when i try to run java code i get this error , what else i have to install in ubuntu , " gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit not found"
[08:50] <moyogo> i'm testing dapper and i get weird kering for letters after T, Y, V and W in some fonts
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Wizz_kidd: it wants your user password
[08:50] <ReWT_> chuckyp, i just tried running a live d other than ubuntu and when i returened to my ubuntu, my ndiswrapper no longer works?
[08:50] <Wizz_kidd> i enter that also and nothing happens
[08:50] <gnomefreak> moyogo: please see #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <chuckyp> ReWT_, a live d?
[08:50] <ReWT_> cd
[08:50] <moyogo> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:50] <ReWT_> lol
[08:50] <gnomefreak> moyogo: yw
[08:50] <chuckyp> ReWT_, what type of netcard?
[08:50] <tristanmike> nidah, betweet #}   and   #command_line....   with a blank line above and below the new entry
[08:50] <ReWT_> braodcom integrated
[08:50] <fiveiron> sweet
[08:50] <tritium> iceman: did you use kernel-package?  What options in your grub's menu.lst do you have for that image?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Wizz_kidd: this is one of the reasons its not advisable to enable su
[08:50] <fiveiron> ubuntu seems to be installing fine now.... i think i had a bad cd-rw before
[08:51] <tristanmike> nidah, are both drives DVD compatible ?
[08:51] <chuckyp> ReWT_, live cd shouldn't have done anything with ndiswrapper.  Unless the device is locked up somehow.  maybe full power off and back on?
[08:51] <Wizz_kidd> just how do i make it so i can open up synaptic and add pakcages
[08:51] <Wizz_kidd> packages
[08:51] <ReWT_> it was working fine before
[08:51] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: did you add those two lines to your sudoers
[08:51] <ReWT_> i just shut it down and restarted it
[08:51] <ReWT_> still nothing
[08:51] <Wizz_kidd> 2 lines?
[08:52] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: never mind, just do this: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[08:52] <ReWT_> oh and when the live cd was done
[08:52] <ReWT_> and i rebooted
[08:52] <cheese23> do you think if i pop in an install cd i could get my oss working?
[08:52] <ReWT_> The grub list had like 2 more options to choose for ubuntu it hada previous default anda regular default added to it?
[08:53] <Wizz_kidd> s oif my user i wantot use is called me
[08:53] <Wizz_kidd> how would it be ?
[08:53] <Wizz_kidd> sorry for sounding so n00bish
[08:53] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser me admin
[08:54] <schmity> how do i make ubuntu look like windows XP?
[08:54] <_jason> schmity: browse gnome-look.org for some windows-like themes
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> under su ?
[08:54] <cheese23> why would you want it to look like xp?
[08:54] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: yeah
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> Adding group `admin' (113)...
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> Done.
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> Adding user `me' to group `admin'...
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> Done.
[08:54] <visik7> how can I get pctv usb2 working on ubuntu ?
[08:54] <Wizz_kidd> that mean it should work now ?
[08:55] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: you may need to logout and log back in
[08:55] <Wizz_kidd> ok it worked
[08:55] <Wizz_kidd> yay thanks
[08:55] <Wizz_kidd> really thanks :P
[08:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell Wizz_kidd about sudo
[08:55] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: now, you can read that :)
[08:55] <cheese23> how does cheese 23 get his onboard audio to work with breezy?
[08:55] <Wizz_kidd> will do :P
[08:56] <ReWT_> how do you kill a mod?
[08:56] <Wizz_kidd> when i was in root i install the oper.deb but when I try to run it it doesnt work any ideas?
[08:56] <cheese23> any help with audio would be great
[08:57] <Wizz_kidd> says command not found
[08:57] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: where did you get oper.deb from?
[08:57] <Wizz_kidd> opera website
[08:57] <nidah> W: GPG error: http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[08:57] <panos> Hello, I'm installing Ubuntu using debootstrap, how do I install the server packages only? It installs the desktop system when I'm doing "base-config new"
[08:57] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[08:58] <schmity> _jason: how do i open up MS-DOS then?
[08:58] <ReWT_> cmd
[08:58] <QUASAR> hello to everyone
[08:58] <ReWT_> hi
[08:58] <_jason> schmity: why would you want MS-DOS?
[08:58] <phiber_optic> I have a jogl.so in my home folder what does it mean?
[08:59] <Andrew|> any ideas how i can change the login screen to be 800x600? i already set my desktop to that res..
[08:59] <cheese23> hey guys i just burnt a data mp3 cd from windows to back up my music from a nother hd so i could install it in ubunto how would i be able to open or rip these files?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> yuck @ ms dos
[08:59] <schmity> doesnt ubuntu use MS-DOS _jason?
[08:59] <QUASAR> Andrew, if you don't use that res remove from xorg.conf
[08:59] <_jason> schmity: no, are you just referring to the terminal?
[08:59] <schmity> whats the best linux distro for lookin at porn?
[08:59] <zAo^> Andrew|: make 800x600 the highest res possible in xorg.conf
[09:00] <schmity> whats terminal?
[09:00] <p01n7> bant
[09:00] <void^> schmity: you fail at trolling
[09:00] <gnomefreak> schmity: applications>accesories>terminal
[09:00] <Andrew|> cheese23 - applications > sound and video > sound juicer
[09:00] <martyn_> is there drivers for the NVIDIA 7800gt out
[09:01] <phiber_optic> I have a jogl.so in my home folder what does it mean?
[09:01] <Andrew|> zAo^ - wheres xorg.conf?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell martyn_ about nvidia
[09:01] <cheese23> Andrew i have tried this i don't have my onboard audio working yet either?
[09:01] <zAo^> Andrew|: /etc/X11/
[09:01] <Andrew|> ok
[09:01] <p01n7> Wheres the Start button??!?!
[09:01] <p01n7> :P
[09:01] <Andrew|> lol p01n7 :D
[09:01] <jxay_ITA> ciao
[09:02] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:02] <jxay_ITA> dir
[09:02] <jxay_ITA> cd Desktop
[09:02] <jxay_ITA> su
[09:02] <p01n7> lol..
[09:02] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i edit my sources.list file if i am not in root
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <p01n7> alias dir='ls'
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> come funziona qui????
[09:03] <Wizz_kidd> it lets me read it but not chnage it or add anything
[09:03] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <p01n7> enough spam
[09:03] <_jason> !es
[09:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:03] <Wizz_kidd> thanks again :P
[09:03] <Lutany> !it
[09:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:03] <Wizz_kidd> little crap like that is whatgets me
[09:03] <DigitalGheko> Wizz_kidd, sudo gedit sources.list
[09:03] <Lutany> grazie :)
[09:03] <DigitalGheko> or nano =P
[09:03] <jxay_ITA> sorry
[09:03] <_jason> Wizz_kidd: for gui apps you use gksudo, so it would be: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:04] <sam__> is there a specific channel for newbie support?
[09:04] <jxay_ITA> ubuntu it come si fa
[09:04] <_jason> sam__: you are in it :)
[09:04] <DigitalGheko> sam__, you're in it
[09:04] <sam__> ah nice :)
[09:04] <DigitalGheko> lol
[09:04] <p01n7> just the display environment variable is what matter, right? :S
[09:04] <martyn_> how do u mount you ntfs drives
[09:04] <_jason> jxay_ITA: italian?
[09:04] <jxay_ITA> yes
[09:04] <_jason> !it
[09:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:04] <jxay_ITA> ok ok
[09:04] <schmity> void^: im not trolling!
[09:05] <Jemt> Hm, I am trying to share a folder on my laptop using Samba. I have given it a share-name and opened port 137-139 and 445 for incomming connection in my firewall. When I try to access the share on my stationary workstation (mount -t smbfs -o username=usr,password=psw //ip/share-name /media/net) I get "Connection refused". What is wrong?
[09:05] <phiber_optic> Does anybody know what is jogl.so?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell martyn_ about ntfs
[09:06] <ramza3> silly me, how do I get a version that is clearly out, but not for ubuntu, for example ruby1.8.4
[09:06] <sam__> if anybody fancys helping me out :) I can hear system sounds fine, and cd's when played in sound juicer, but am unable to hear mp3s playing in amaroK etc
[09:06] <gnomefreak> martyn_: just remember writing to it is not suggested as things may break
[09:06] <nidah> how do i enable dma on my hdc/hdd drive?
[09:06] <p01n7> ramza3, it's called python
[09:06] <p01n7> :P
[09:06] <gnomefreak> sam__: did you install the software for mp3
[09:07] <ramza3> p01n7, my code wont run
[09:07] <_jason> sam__: make sure they use esd as the output too
[09:07] <p01n7> install form source or use an up-to-date .deb from their homepage
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sam__ about mp3
[09:07] <p01n7> ramza3 ^^
[09:07] <chuckyp> !tell sam__ about restricted
[09:07] <gnomefreak> sam__: sent it to you just incase
[09:08] <p01n7> remove the old installation first, ramza3
[09:09] <cheese23> would any one like to help me with getting my onboard audio working on my biostar tforce 6100 939?
[09:10] <thomas`> i think when i installed my ubuntu i didnt set no swap space at all
[09:10] <thomas`> so its running off all ram is this a bad thing?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> thomas`: default install did it for you
[09:10] <thomas`> it was giving me a hard time when i was trying to set it up
[09:10] <thomas`> u sure gnome freak
[09:10] <rancorus> is Cn3D in the repositories somewhere ?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> thomas`: im not sure what default size is but im sure that swap is partitioned
[09:11] <pilgrim> Hi all. I want to install and start sshd. How do I do this in ubuntu?
[09:11] <Andrew|> how do i change the login screen to be 800x600? look at this screenshot http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/6016/xorg6zo.png what do i need to change?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> thomas`: is you open terminal and type top you should see swap up there
[09:12] <gnomefreak> thomas`: it should tell you the size of it and how much is free
[09:12] <void^> Andrew|: put the "800x600" before "1024x768"
[09:12] <thomas`> it says
[09:12] <thomas`> 0total
[09:12] <thomas`> 0 free
[09:12] <thomas`> for swap
[09:12] <Andrew|> thanks void^
[09:12] <apollo2011> so what was the outcme of the meetings to extend Dapper development?
[09:12] <thomas`> i dont think i set it up.. at all
[09:12] <gnomefreak> apollo2011: nothing yet
[09:12] <thomas`> i remember skipping it to during installation
[09:12] <pilgrim> How do I install Open-SSH?
[09:12] <rukuartic> Anyone know a way to block an IP address from your computer with iptables?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> thomas`: did you manully partition the drive?
[09:13] <apollo2011> gnomefreak: ok
[09:13] <cheese23> does anyone know anyother ubuntu rooms?
[09:13] <thomas`> it says 20200k used tho
[09:13] <crimsun> kbrooks: please see the wiki for meeting summary
[09:13] <thomas`> next to 0free and 0total by swap
[09:13] <pilgrim> cheese23, #kubuntu
[09:13] <crimsun> kbrooks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDelayMeetingSummary
[09:13] <nidah> still having issues with dvd playback despite dms on
[09:13] <thomas`> i used the instalations format stuff
[09:13] <nidah> still having issues with dvd playback despite dma being on
[09:13] <thomas`> i deleted my old one made it reiserfs
[09:13] <cheese23> ohh yeah what is kubuntu all about?
[09:13] <kbrooks> crimsun, ty
[09:13] <rukuartic> pilgrim: sudo apt-get install openssh
[09:13] <thomas`> i was using ext3 b4 but heard reiserfs is better for gaming
[09:13] <gnomefreak> that could be a reason
[09:14] <chuckyp> cheese23, its just ubuntu with kde as the desktop instead of gnome
[09:14] <Andrew|> xorg.conf is read only...?!
[09:14] <Xanadu> cheese32: kubuntu is a kde version of ubuntu
[09:14] <ReWT_> whats the best way to move an iso from one computer without a cd burner to one with a cd burner?
[09:14] <rukuartic> pilgrim: then after that, make sure if you're running a firewall that you configure ports right
[09:14] <pilgrim> rukuartic, E: Couldn't find package openssh
[09:14] <ReWT_> running wireless internet
[09:14] <cheese23> do any of you reccommend it
[09:14] <rukuartic> ReWT_: SSH?
[09:14] <chuckyp> ReWT_, over the net
[09:14] <cheese23> i don't believe in it
[09:14] <rukuartic> pilgrim: Hold up real quick
[09:14] <ReWT_> rukuaric how would i do that?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> ext3is default when you changed it to reiserfs you more than likely had to manully add a swap space
[09:14] <Xanadu> Andrew|: you need root to edit xorg.conf
[09:14] <chuckyp> ReWT_, scp
[09:14] <obli> Is there any keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces?
[09:14] <ReWT_> scp?
[09:14] <rukuartic> pilgrim: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:15] <gnomefreak> cheese23: what seems to be the problem?
[09:15] <pilgrim> cheese23, no because I don't like KDE
[09:15] <Xanadu> obli: ctrl-alt-arrow right and left
[09:15] <obli> thanks
[09:15] <thomas`> is it to late to set swap space
[09:15] <thomas`> trying to send u a pic so you can see this
[09:15] <pilgrim> rukuartic, thanks. Now the firewall thing? How do I do that?
[09:15] <thomas`> make sure everythings fine
[09:15] <thomas`> my games run fine
[09:15] <rukuartic> ReWT_: Download and install openssh, then just use scp
[09:15] <thomas`> q4 is flawless
[09:15] <cheese23> gnomefreak onboard audio drivers
[09:15] <rukuartic> pilgrim: Make sure you have port 22 open :P
[09:15] <Andrew|> Xanadu - how do i get in root? sorry i'm new to all this
[09:15] <chuckyp> thomas`, no you can make the swap larger later
[09:16] <pilgrim> rukuartic, heh. I know that, but how?
[09:16] <Wizz_kidd> Evolution seems like a great mail program
[09:16] <gnomefreak> thomas`: i think you can do that in fstab but someone else might be able to answer better
[09:16] <rukuartic> pilgrim: Find another computer, and run ssh user@youripaddress
[09:16] <chuckyp> !tell Andrew| about sudo
[09:16] <gnomefreak> cheese23: what type of card is it
[09:16] <Xanadu> Andrew|: open a console and type "sudo yourcommand"
[09:16] <thomas`> really?  how do i go about making the swap larger
[09:16] <thomas`> is it really neccessary
[09:16] <pilgrim> rukuartic, no no. How do I get to the firewall config?
[09:16] <thomas`> i know alot of my rams being used
[09:16] <Xanadu> so to edit xorg.conf, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:16] <thomas`> 700or so outta 1gb
[09:16] <Xanadu> sudo = super user do
[09:16] <thomas`> but performance wise my pc seems fine
[09:16] <cheese23> the mobo is a tforce 6100 939 with a realtek onboard audio card
[09:16] <gnomefreak> thomas`: how much mem do you have in there?
[09:16] <chuckyp> thomas`, your fine
[09:17] <rukuartic> pilgrim: Are you running a firewall?
[09:17] <thomas`> oh ok
[09:17] <ardchoille> I am using Window Maker and want to run an app when Window Maker starts. How would I do that?
[09:17] <ardchoille> I know to put an "&" in the command but I am unsure as to which file to put the command in. I tried ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession.. neither work. I am on Ubuntu 5.10
[09:17] <pilgrim> rukuartic, isn't there a default one runing?
[09:17] <cheese23> nvidia of corse gnomefreak
[09:17] <Kezzer> DOes anyone have any decent links to a howto for XGL under Ubuntu?
[09:17] <rukuartic> pilgrim: Shouldn't be, unless you've got a hardware one (your router)
[09:17] <chuckyp> ardchoille, you may need the full path to the command i.e. /usr/sbin/<prgram> &
[09:18] <Klohunt> Does anyone know of a way to see if my Nvidia video card is being used?
[09:18] <programador1> hello hi
[09:18] <rukuartic> pilgrim: If you want, you could make a test user and I could try to get in
[09:18] <Klohunt> I just installed the drivers, dunno if they work
[09:18] <ardchoille> chuckyp: used that, didn't help
[09:18] <pilgrim> rukuartic, yeah the router I got...damn..no firewall eh.....hmm...damn...fedora was nice for this.
[09:18] <hartz> bye
[09:18] <Xanadu> Kezzer:http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[09:18] <ReWT_> rukuartic, where do i get open ssh
[09:18] <ReWT_> ?
[09:18] <pilgrim> rukuartic, I got computer at home. no worries.
[09:18] <Andrew|> okay so how do i use sudo to edit xorg.conf?
[09:18] <Lil-Abner> Hi. I just finished installig ubuntu and made a major goof. I apparently stopped the downloading of current updates and can't restart them without going into superuser.
[09:18] <rukuartic> ReWT_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:18] <moonman> i need help extracting a .rar file, it say that its unsupported
[09:19] <rukuartic> Lil-Abner: :P Thats ok, just log in as super user. You always have to
[09:19] <Klohunt> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something like that
[09:19] <pilgrim> rukuartic, I got computer(s) .so I can test the connection. But the firewall thing is shocking me.
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell moonman about rar
[09:19] <Xanadu> lol @ Andrew|
[09:19] <ReWT_> rukuartic, once that is done, what do i do in open ssh?
[09:19] <ReWT_> sorry new to this stuff
[09:19] <pilgrim> ReWT_, you can login remotely into your machine :D
[09:19] <rukuartic> pilgrim: You're fine O_o don't worry about it. If you can't connect from the outside though, you probably should check to make sure you don't have any problems
[09:19] <Lil-Abner> That's the problem, rukuartic. I don't have a pw for superuser, I don't think.
[09:19] <ReWT_> How?
[09:19] <rukuartic> ReWT_: Well, if you want to copy a file
[09:20] <rukuartic> ReWT_: You'd use this syntax
[09:20] <Jemt> Hm, I am trying to share a folder on my laptop using Samba. I have given it a share-name and opened port 137-139 and 445 for incomming connection in my firewall. When I try to access the share on my stationary workstation (mount -t smbfs -o username=usr,password=psw //ip/share-name /media/net) I get "Connection refused". What is wrong?
[09:20] <Lil-Abner> I was asked to put in a user name and pw for myself but not for root.
[09:20] <rukuartic> ReWT_: scp username@computer:/path/to/your/file.ext /where/to/save/your/file.ext
[09:20] <thomas`> anyone ever get to successfully update there nvidia card drivers to 8178 with all the gcc changing and all anyone manage to actually get that working? im stuck on 7667 drivers would like to upgrade
[09:20] <rukuartic> Lil-Abner: The password you put in is the root's password
[09:20] <chuckyp> !tell Lil-Abner about sudo
[09:20] <rukuartic> !tell Lil-Abner about root
[09:20] <jon__> !tell Lil-Abner about root
[09:20] <rukuartic> XD
[09:20] <jon__> ah..beat me to it ;)
[09:20] <ardchoille> Lil-Abner: when sudo asks for a password, put in your password
[09:21] <thomas`> im kinda scared to mess up my installation again over trying to update videocard drivers.
[09:21] <Lil-Abner> Hmm. I  tried that
[09:21] <chuckyp> I think reading the wiki should be a requirement before you download.
[09:21] <Lil-Abner> What is "sudo"?
[09:21] <Jemt> !samba
[09:21] <ardchoille> chuckyp: lol
[09:21] <chuckyp> omfg
[09:21] <Xanadu> Jemt: run smbpasswd from console to add a user for samba
[09:21] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:21] <jon__> thomas` Just make a backup of your xorg.conf
[09:21] <Kezzer> thanks Xanadu =)
[09:21] <ReWT_> so it will work if one of us is in windows and the other in ubuntu?
[09:21] <cheese23> ok i'm getting an error in kaffeine when i try to open oog files that says ALSA device default not supported
[09:21] <ReWT_> running off the same AP?
[09:21] <Jemt> Xanadu: Of cause - i forgot that. Thanks
[09:21] <Xanadu> np Kezzer
[09:21] <Xanadu> np
[09:21] <thomas`> yea iknow but its kinda annoying cuz i messed mny stuff all up messing with a howto
[09:21] <rukuartic> Lil-Abner: Super user do
[09:22] <saml> hey pulled out my network cable :/
[09:22] <thomas`> gcc compiler stuff
[09:22] <Andrew|> [20:19:24]  <Xanadu> lol @ Andrew| <<--- hey we're all new at some stage! ;-)
[09:22] <mmiikkee12> what language is the ubuntu installer written in?
[09:22] <thomas`> sheesh i might just wait til dapper rlses
[09:22] <rukuartic> ReWT_: Use putty for that, go onto google and search for "putty"
[09:22] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: sudo = superuser od
[09:22] <thomas`> i think that comes with 8178..
[09:22] <Xanadu> Andrew| not making fun, but still funny
[09:22] <rukuartic> ReWT_: And in that case, you'd use pscp user@host:/path/to/file C:\Place\To\file
[09:22] <jon__> mmiikkee12, I'm pretty sure but don't quote me, python?
[09:22] <ReWT_> Im in linux
[09:22] <mmiikkee12> yay, a language i kinda know \o/
[09:22] <ReWT_> I'm moving an iso from windows to my linux
[09:22] <rukuartic> ReWT_: You want to copy from windows to linux, or from linux to windows?
[09:22] <saml> hello, I have having a problem with media players e.g. amaroK not playing mp3s
[09:23] <saml> they play just deliver no sound :/
[09:23] <mmiikkee12> last i tried it, it needed serious improvement.
[09:23] <rukuartic> ReWT_: Ooooh... Can't burn a CD?
[09:23] <ReWT_> nope >.<
[09:23] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: the super user, or root user, is like the ultimate user on the system with permission to do just about anything
[09:23] <ReWT_> his notebook is shit
[09:23] <Lil-Abner> Do I enter that in the terminal app? I tried changing directories to root and that didn't work.
[09:23] <rukuartic> ReWT_: Uhmmm...
[09:23] <ScislaC> 2 qs... how big is a base install and would ubuntu run "okay" on a 466mhz 486 w/ 256megs?
[09:23] <jon__> mmiikkee12, What was wrong with it?
[09:23] <mmiikkee12> let's see...
[09:23] <mmiikkee12> no package selector
[09:23] <jon__> mmiikkee12, Besides it being txt only.  I consider that a plus.
[09:23] <ReWT_> ruk can u join me in #transferhelp
[09:23] <ScislaC> errr... 466mhz p1
[09:23] <pilgrim> rukuartic, SSHing works. How do I open close ports in Ubuntu?
[09:23] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: to go permanently into super user mode type "sudo -s" but be careful cause you can do some serious damage as super user
[09:23] <jon__> mmiikkee12, The 1 CD only installs what you "need" there is no package selection needed.
[09:24] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:24] <Lil-Abner> What is the command to change from user terminal to root terminal? I tried cd / but that didn't work.
[09:24] <mmiikkee12> jon__, i don't need openoffice, evolution, whatever other s**t it installs
[09:24] <p01n7> ls
[09:24] <p01n7> :P
[09:24] <mmiikkee12> Lil-Abner, su
[09:24] <p01n7> su, Lil-abner, su
[09:24] <jon__> mmiikkee12, Then remove it.
[09:24] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: You're confusing the root user with the root directory
[09:25] <jon__> mmiikkee12, sudo apt-get remove blah
[09:25] <mmiikkee12> jon__, but my point is it's wasting my time to download it and the ubuntu servers' too.
[09:25] <mmiikkee12> (the servers' bandwidth, not time)
[09:25] <saml> hello, I have having a problem with media players e.g. amaroK not playing mp3s
[09:25] <saml> they play just deliver no sound :/
[09:25] <Lil-Abner> Oh?! What is the difference, Xanadu? I thought they were the same, sorry.
[09:25] <saml> cds play fine
[09:26] <mmiikkee12> saml, turn your speakers on ;)
[09:26] <p01n7> mmikkee12, why deb? RPM
[09:26] <saml> heheh I wish
[09:26] <jon__> mmiikkee12, Well it takes it off the CD, and there's no other versions as far as I know...?  Soo, make a suggestion to have a minimal install CD ;)  Or just install ubuntu as 'server' mode and work your way up from there.
[09:26] <mmiikkee12> p01n7, ?
[09:26] <rukuarti1> Oww, got disconnected
[09:26] <chuckyp> !tell saml about mp3
[09:26] <mmiikkee12> i like apt
[09:26] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: / is the root directory. It's called "root" because the directory structure is like a tree, with "root" at the bottom
[09:26] <ReWT_> rukuarti1, #transferhelp
[09:26] <fiveiron> uh.. what is the default ubuntu root password?
[09:26] <mmiikkee12> your user pswd
[09:26] <mmiikkee12> brb
[09:26] <chuckyp> !tell fiveiron aoubt sudo
[09:26] <jon__> fiveiron, Same as what you set for your userpassword.
[09:26] <saml> I have installed all the required packages I think
[09:26] <saml> :/
[09:26] <Wizz_kidd> what is a good p2p app for GNOME
[09:27] <fiveiron> no it isnt
[09:27] <jon__> saml, Is sound working *at all*?  for anything?
[09:27] <ohgood> Wizz_kidd: bittorrent
[09:27] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: The directories are like branches of the tree and the files like the leaves, hence the analogy
[09:27] <p01n7> i forget.. does ubuntu auto-update?
[09:27] <jon__> fiveiron, Should be.
[09:27] <ReWT_> or amule
[09:27] <fiveiron> !tell fiveiron about sudo
[09:27] <saml> yeah it works fine for system sounds and for cds in the juice ripper jobby :)
[09:27] <rukuarti1> Arg... I just got disconnected... How do I kick my dead username? (rukuartic)
[09:27] <darkraven> good evening, i try to use dapper with xgl, but after setting the simlink he says "couldnt open RGB_DB /usr/share/X11/rgb"?
[09:27] <p01n7> wait, no.. the user has to "agree"
[09:27] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: The "root account" is a user account with permission to do just about anything on the system, like create new users and edit protected files
[09:27] <p01n7> alright.
[09:27] <jon__> saml, Ah, I remember vaguely hearing about problems with amarok before...
[09:27] <p01n7> uid 0
[09:28] <Xanadu> rukartil: /ghost <username> <password>
[09:28] <saml> are there better audio players
[09:28] <Lil-Abner> Xanadu, thanks. I just tried to use my user password, but it didn't work. Is it supposed to be invisible? No "*'s"?
[09:28] <saml> i read somewhere it's the best
[09:28] <chuckyp> saml, read the message from ubotu
[09:28] <rukuarti1> Xanadu: that a clinet based command? Works with Irssi?
[09:28] <chuckyp> saml, I use vlc personally
[09:28] <saml> I have thanks
[09:28] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner yeah it's invisible
[09:28] <Ov3rlord> i use ubuntu and gnome meeting for voip telephony but i have one problem : i can't find the option to set my caller id so it does not send any caller id and that is not good.
[09:29] <saml> I've installed the packages and that
[09:29] <saml> vlc is the ugleh :P
[09:29] <Xanadu> rukuartil: should be a server command (haven't tried it on this server tho)
[09:29] <Lil-Abner> I've got a second desktop open, so I'll try it again. brb
[09:29] <rukuartic> Xanadu: Thanks
[09:29] <chuckyp> saml, you can skin vlc
[09:29] <pmontesi> is there any other mirror for dapper? ubunut.com is going very slow here
[09:29] <ReWT_> rukuartic, #transferhelp     please mate
[09:30] <ohgood> man, the s/n is pretty bad in here.
[09:30] <Xanadu> saml: you got multiverse repositories enabled? look for gstreamer stuff in Synaptic (there should be a gstreamer-multiverse metapackage) and install those
[09:30] <rukuartic> ReWT_: /msg me :P
[09:30] <Xanadu> saml: once you done that run gst-register0.8 (AFAIR) as a normal user
[09:30] <saml> Xanadu, I have multiverse enabled, I'll check if i have installed that
[09:31] <Lil-Abner> Xanadu, it keeps coming up "authentication failure". Is there a way to verify that I'm not making a mistake typing my pw?
[09:31] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: are you the first user on the system?
[09:31] <Lil-Abner> Yup. First user and only user. I just installed it.
[09:32] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: The first user created gets permission to be root, the other users have to be given permission
[09:32] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: try copy n paste
[09:32] <Lil-Abner> Wifey had her own pc w/XP on it.
[09:32] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: Paste is ctrl-shift-v in the console (not just ctrl-v like normal)
[09:32] <lewix> yo
[09:33] <Lil-Abner> Where do I type original to paste from?
[09:33] <lewix> I would like to install dc++ on linux. any idea ?
[09:33] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: It's caps sensitive so check that too
[09:33] <saml> Xanadu, I have already got that package, what command do you mean by "gst-register0.8 (AFAIR)"
[09:33] <grigora> does anyone know of OpenOffice has Solver capabilities and if so, how can I install it on Ubuntu? Thanks
[09:33] <saml> lewix, get wine, it's a windows emulator
[09:33] <Xanadu> saml: should be gst-register-0.8 (my bad)
[09:34] <_jason> grigora: what is Solver?
[09:34] <saml> Xanadu,
[09:34] <saml> Xanadu, cheers :)
[09:34] <grigora> _jason: it let's you adjust values in various cells to minimize/maximize a certain cell
[09:34] <devscott> Hi I was wondering if someone could help me confirm a bug in dapper
[09:34] <lewix> saml, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[09:34] <Xanadu> saml: just lets the system know about the new gstreamer stuff.
[09:35] <saml> lewix, cheers
[09:35] <lewix> :)
[09:35] <fiveiron> hmm..
[09:35] <zF> !azureus
[09:35] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:35] <Xanadu> saml: you running under Gnome or KDE?
[09:35] <saml> Xanadu, Gnome
[09:35] <_jason> grigora: that's kind of specific.  If no one here knows, you may want to try #OpenOffice.org
[09:35] <rukuartic> saml: WINE = _W_ine _i_s _n_ot an _E_mulator
[09:35] <saml> heheheh ok
[09:36] <hypnotic> hey guys is the new beta out?
[09:36] <saml> i'm a newb tbh :P
[09:36] <hypnotic> well the new ubunut
[09:36] <marcy> hi
[09:36] <hypnotic> hi
[09:36] <Lil-Abner> Xanadu, some how the pass word is messed up 'cause it doesn't work.
[09:36] <Xanadu> saml: I think that Amarok tries to pipe to Alsa but Gnome uses ESD as default
[09:36] <marcy> how can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu
[09:36] <devscott> 1.) open volume control
[09:36] <devscott> 2.) on the volume applet, move the sound all the way down.  see that volume contol slider is now at bottom
[09:36] <Xanadu> Lil-Anber: you can change your password by running "passwd" from the console
[09:36] <devscott> 3.) now on the volume applet move it to the middle
[09:36] <devscott> 4.) volume control slider is still at the bottom and still thinks the volume is muted
[09:36] <aaronshaf> What do I need to "apt-get install" in order to start using "make" (besides "make" itself)?
[09:37] <marcy> how can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu ?? someone please
[09:37] <ohgood> Lil-Abner: whos password exactly ?
[09:37] <selinium> chuckyp, How do you skin vlc?
[09:37] <saml> that was it
[09:37] <rukuartic> marcy: sudo apt-get install kde I think...
[09:37] <saml> cheers Xanadu !
[09:37] <_jason> marcy: install the ubuntu-desktop package
[09:37] <marcy> thanks
[09:37] <Lil-Abner> OK. Are "console" and "terminal" the same?
[09:37] <Xanadu> aaronshaf: build-essential
[09:37] <aaronshaf> thanks
[09:37] <gnomefreak> selinium: i got a package of skins for it have yet to try them tho
[09:37] <paxmaster> I am having problem with my sound
[09:37] <saml> lewix, that link is ace, thanks! wine looks a bit rubbish :P
[09:38] <paxmaster> it was working yesterday
[09:38] <selinium> Hi gnomefreak :) Where from?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> synaptic
[09:38] <PierPP> hello doods :)
[09:38] <gnomefreak> im assuming breezy has the package also
[09:38] <Xanadu> paxmaster: the question is: what did you do between today and yesterday? ;)
[09:38] <PierPP> 'lo gnomefreak =)
[09:39] <Lil-Abner> ohgood, mine. Xanadu, I'll change my password and see what happens. Thanks.
[09:39] <marten71> hello
[09:39] <paxmaster> nothing
[09:39] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: just don't forget it ;)
[09:39] <gnomefreak> hi PierPP
[09:39] <fiveiron> hmm... ok the ubuntu wiki tells me to get xserver-xgl if i want to use xgl, but I can't seem to find "xserver-xgl"
[09:39] <ohgood> Lil-Abner: it's as simple as typing : passwd             (as whatever user you wish to change the password for)
[09:39] <ohgood> Lil-Abner: if you forget the password, you can always change it. no big deal.
[09:40] <paxmaster> so how would i reconfigure my sound card
[09:40] <Xanadu> ohgood: providing you haven't logged out
[09:40] <ohgood> Xanadu: anytime. logged out or not doesn't matter.
[09:40] <marten71> i am woundering if it is possible to run Ubuntu on a sony portebal and if it can find my wireless card
[09:40] <Xanadu> paxmaster: what sound card u using?
[09:41] <llODxCOll> !dapper
[09:41] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:41] <rukuartic> Anyone had experience with GuildFTPd? ReWT_ needs a bit of help
[09:41] <Xanadu> marten71: I'm running on a Sony Vaio now and it works fine
[09:41] <fiveiron> anyone know if i need to set up a different sources list to get xserver-xgl?
[09:41] <fiveiron> oh yeah
[09:41] <fiveiron> nm
[09:41] <fiveiron> i see it
cool
[09:41] <LeeJunFan> anyone know a fix for install hanging on pci: multiple domains not supported?
[09:41] <paxmaster> Maestro-3i pci
I have downloaded the dvd and thinking about putting it in
[09:42] <Falstius> is there a good way to access CDs/DVDs under wine running in a chroot?  I can mount them there directly, but that breaks the normal automount.
[09:42] <kage> does anyone know of a program for like a 3d window manager?
[09:42] <paxmaster> how i reconfigure alsa
[09:42] <Xanadu> marten71: you used Linux before?
[09:42] <paxmaster> i forget the command
[09:42] <marten71> just little Suse
just little suse
[09:43] <ohgood> kage: there are several, all of them gernally unusable.
[09:43] <zF> Anyone know of an Azureus  2.4.0.0-1 .deb?
[09:43] <fiveiron> wow
[09:43] <Xanadu> paxmaster: check out System/Prefs/Multimedia Systems Selector
[09:43] <fiveiron> i really like the package manager
[09:43] <kage> i see
[09:43] <gnomefreak> you mean big bulky slow as syrup suse?
[09:43] <kage> thanks
[09:43] <Xanadu> marten71: this your main machine? will you still have net access if it doesn't work?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> !azureus
[09:43] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:43] <ohgood> gnomefreak: suse is slow and bulky ? :\
[09:43] <Lil-Abner> Xanadu and ohgood, apparently I must have added mysefl as a second user 'cause the changing of the password didn't work. I still get an authentication failure at su.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> ohgood: ohgood yes
[09:43] <paxmaster> i am not using gnome
[09:43] <gnomefreak> :) sorry had to
no it is not my main pc it is a spare
[09:43] <signius> Hey up
[09:44] <ohgood> gnomefreak: maybe you should append 'imho' ?
i have it for e-mail
[09:44] <Xanadu> marten71: well then I'd say go for it
[09:44] <Ov3rlord> can anybody answer my question ?
[09:44] <ohgood> Lil-Abner: su, and your user password are not the same
[09:44] <signius> I installed breezy badger today and then did an apt-get dist-upgrade and all seems fine
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ok good point IMHO
[09:44] <paxmaster> Xanadu: I am not using gnome
[09:44] <lewix> i have a problem with it though...it doesnt recongnize the command cvs, saml
[09:44] <k31th> Is there a way i can mount a lv partion from an ubuntu live cd ?
do Ubuntu have a good bluetooth support
[09:45] <signius> but i have since tried toget my wireless nic working and its not getting any IP info from the DHCP bu wired NIC does
[09:45] <Xanadu> marten71: yeah it's okay. Easier to set up in Kubuntu imho
[09:45] <Lil-Abner> ohgood, at the prompt in terminal, I type su after the : ~ $, is that correct?
[09:45] <Xanadu> paxmaster: soz running Gnome at the moment
[09:45] <signius> i have ran dmesg and it looks like its trying to use ipv6 for eth1 which i dont want i want it to use ipv4 is anyone aware of this
Ok thanks alot
[09:45] <marlun> What does Ubuntu add to debian? I know it's based on debian but whats added that makes it better?
[09:45] <Xanadu> Lil-Abner: try type "sudo -s" (without the inverted commas)
[09:46] <ohgood> Lil-Abner: usually, 'su -' is what i use, but if your root password has changed, you'll have to boot 'single' mode to change it again.
[09:46] <Lil-Abner> The prompt gives my name, ubuntu and my computer name.
[09:46] <GigaClon> lots of repos, lots of hardware autodection
[09:46] <Lil-Abner> ok
[09:46] <gnomefreak> marlun: its newer packages (for most part) its 6 month release cycle better hardware detection
[09:46] <gnomefreak> and use of sudo :)
[09:47] <marlun> gnomefreak: ok so the main part is that it's newer packages and better hardware detection?
[09:47] <Xanadu> marten71: I've managed to send files and stuff thru bluetooth without too much hassle. Just check for "bluez" in the repository (look for something called Synaptic under System/Admin after install to see all available packages)
[09:47] <mmiikkee12> "About 1,000 pieces of software are installed by default, out of the basic fully supported software list of 1,300 packages." - there's something wrong there.
[09:47] <Xanadu> marten71: I think that a lot of the bluetooth stuff might just install out of the box with Breezy
[09:47] <gnomefreak> marlun: yep for the most part there are other things but too much to name
[09:48] <kage> The new version of Ubuntu is named Breezy right?
[09:48] <Xanadu> kage: current version is breezy
[09:48] <Xanadu> kage: next version is Dapper Drake
[09:48] <La_PaRCa> kage, that is the latest stable one. The development one is called dapper.
thanks again
[09:48] <kage> Thanks.  To update to that, do I just rename the hoary repos to breezy ones in sources.list?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> kage: the latest stable is named breezy badger 5.10 sort of
[09:49] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[09:49] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ^^kage the first link
[09:49] <Xanadu> kage: yeah and then run "apt-get update", "apt-get dist-upgrade" (as opposed to apt-get upgrade like normal)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed first
[09:49] <signius> Anyone got any ideas regarding this IPV6 stuff and disabling so eth1 uses IPV4 ?
[09:49] <Xanadu> kage: make sure you've got a good book to read while it installs ;)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[09:50] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:50] <_jason> ipv6
[09:50] <paxmaster> how come in ubuntu it don't have alsaconfig
[09:50] <gnomefreak> paxmaster: iirc you have to install it
[09:50] <kage> Thanks
[09:50] <Xanadu> alsactl?
[09:50] <signius> u]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:50] <signius> ooops
[09:50] <signius> sorry
[09:51] <fell_> salut
[09:51] <gatpandoa> hi
[09:51] <_jason> !FR
[09:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:51] <gatpandoa> need help with 3 things
[09:51] <fell_> salut
[09:51] <fell_> rpond
[09:51] <jordiablo> tell us ....
[09:51] <Falstius> gatpandoa, only the first hit is free :)
[09:51] <Xanadu> paxmaster: it's a long shot cause I got a different card but one prob I had was that "external mixer" was turned on, which stopped sound from working
[09:52] <gatpandoa> 1.dvd playback issue despite dma enabled and I/o 32 bit
[09:52] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: 1. what's the issue? Jerky or just not working?
[09:52] <gatpandoa> jerky
[09:53] <dexil> i need help with a simple thing. Just downloaded j2se (a *.bin) and i know i have to make a .deb-file out of it. What is the command?
[09:53] <craize> hey hey
[09:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell dexil about java
[09:53] <ohgood> dexil: you don't. you execute it.
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dexil about javadebs
[09:53] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: what player and basic specs on your machine?
[09:53] <_jason> ohgood: no, he's right.  It's better to make a deb
[09:53] <craize> !tell craize about ATI
[09:53] <ohgood> _jason: why ?
[09:53] <dexil> how do i execute it ohgood ?
[09:53] <silvaran> ohgood: java-package has support for .bin -> .deb to facilitate easy installation
[09:53] <gatpandoa> specs p3 800mhz 320 mb ram
[09:53] <silvaran> dexil: Don't, just follow the howto
[09:53] <_jason> ohgood: so that you can remove it easily with the package manager later if you want
[09:54] <dexil> ok :)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> dexil: follow the link ubotu sent you
[09:54] <signius> hmmm has breezy switched from using dhcpd to dhcp3 ?
[09:54] <signius> appears wuite a few people experiencing the same problem as myself
[09:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: what player?
[09:54] <gatpandoa> can use totem ,& ogle mplayer refuses to play file
[09:54] <cheese23> AOpen 4 Channel PCI Soundcard AW-840 is this a good ubuntu soundcard
[09:54] <justintime32> hey, does anyone know how to remove the bcm43xx driver from dapper?
[09:54] <ohgood> _jason: <shrug> rm -rf /opt/something  is too difficult ?
[09:54] <silvaran> justintime32: blacklist it
[09:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: maybe try vlc or mplayer - both are superiour to totem imnsho
[09:54] <craize> wow
[09:54] <_jason> ohgood: the point isn't difficulty, it is a lot more convenient to use apt
[09:55] <craize> xchat changed quite a bit :(
[09:55] <gatpandoa> mplayer refuses any suggestions?
[09:55] <justintime32> yeah, i did that
[09:55] <hypnotic> i upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10.. now i cannot find my command prompt can someone help
[09:55] <nickrud> justintime32, you can add the driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ , that will prevent it from loading
[09:55] <cheese23> ok it would be in
[09:55] <ohgood> hmm
[09:55] <justintime32> but is there a way to completely remove it
[09:55] <gnomefreak> hypnotic: applications>accessories>terminal
[09:55] <justintime32> it screws up ndiswrapper
[09:55] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: upgrade hardware?
[09:55] <hypnotic> gnomefreak: you are awesome!
[09:56] <cheese23> hypnotik applications accessories terminal or ctrl+alt+f2
[09:56] <abonilla> Does anyone know if moving right now from Breezy to Dapper is safe?
[09:56] <nickrud> justintime32, it won't affect anything if it isn't loaded
[09:56] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you got the decss stuff installed?
[09:56] <silvaran> justintime32: It's part of linux-image ... Dapper right?
[09:56] <justintime32> yeah
[09:56] <gnomefreak> ty but i didnt do anything :(
[09:56] <gatpandoa> u/g hardware to?
[09:56] <abonilla> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:56] <silvaran> Put "blacklist bcm43xx" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:56] <justintime32> i did that and added ndiswrapper to load at boot, but there are a couple problems
[09:56] <PierPP> !debian
[09:56] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[09:56] <PierPP> =)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> abonilla: there is no such thing as safe in dapper hence the term testing/unstable
[09:56] <silvaran> justintime32: What kinds of problems?
[09:57] <gatpandoa> decss? is?
[09:57] <justintime32> 1. it won't start the interface at boot (i have to do that once i log in)
[09:57] <_jason> ohgood: you are right that both methods would work.  But if you install a lot of things without using apt, then it becomes more and more difficult to figure out where things get installed to
[09:57] <abonilla> gnomefreak: is like a month from release and is on freeze. but OK.
[09:57] <justintime32> 2. it is still eth0 when it should be wlan0
[09:57] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: decodes encrypted DVDs and should make DVD playback much better
[09:57] <gnomefreak> abonilla: dont be so sure about that
[09:57] <PSP1337> Anyone knows how to change the menu bar applet icon size (16px) in gnome?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> abonilla: looking at a 6 week delay
[09:57] <silvaran> justintime32: You could add "ndiswrapper" to /etc/modules and do "lsmod|grep bcm" to make sure the bcm43xx driver isn't still being loaded.
[09:57] <justintime32> it's wlan0 in dmesg, but not in everything else
[09:57] <gatpandoa> where do i fetch decodes?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> abonilla: also its still alpha
[09:57] <paxmaster> it lol working
[09:58] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: just looking for link
[09:58] <abonilla> gnomefreak: I know. i hope they add NM there too.
[09:58] <Xanadu> paxmaster: what you do? turn the speakers on? ;P
[09:58] <justintime32> right now it's not loaded
[09:58] <_jason> !dvd
[09:58] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:58] <paxmaster> na
[09:58] <silvaran> justintime32: Do an "ifconfig wlan0" -- do you get anything?
[09:58] <dhewg> can i compile a 32bit i386 kernel on a 64bit ubuntu box?
[09:58] <silvaran> justintime32: It's possibly not being listed elsewhere because it's not configured.
[09:58] <justintime32> that's the weird thing
[09:58] <justintime32> it should be wlan0
[09:58] <justintime32> but it's eth0
[09:58] <gatpandoa> link for decss?
[09:58] <ohgood> _jason: interesting.
[09:59] <paxmaster> some reason when it boot it didn't detect the sound card
[09:59] <silvaran> justintime32: Sounds like you either have the wrong windows driver, or bcm43xx is still being loaded
[09:59] <paxmaster> so I restart it
[09:59] <paxmaster> peace of cake
[09:59] <_jason> gatpandoa: do you mean libdvdcss?
[09:59] <justintime32> i manually did a rmmod and unloaded it
[09:59] <justintime32> and i used the same windows driver that i've used before
[09:59] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you'll find it in the repositories - like where ubotu said
[09:59] <obli> Could someone help me with creating a script for batch renaming of files?
[09:59] <signius> ok made changes to /etc/modeprobe fingers crossed no more IPV6 problems
[09:59] <_jason> obli: you already have one, it's called 'rename'
[09:59] <cheese23> puts in a dip of skoal peach
[10:00] <silvaran> justintime32: Not sure that would cut it... you might want to stick "ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules, reboot, and lsmod to make sure bcm43xx is gone.
[10:00] <obli> oh, nifty
[10:00] <justintime32> ndiswrapper is in /etc/modules
[10:00] <silvaran> justintime32: If dmesg lists it as "wlan0", then there's no question, it's not eth0, eth0 must be an ethernet card.
[10:00] <vsivak> hi
[10:01] <vsivak> a have some problem with gcc
[10:01] <gnomefreak> vsivak: what is it
[10:01] <justintime32> i have eth0 and eth1
[10:01] <justintime32> eth1 is the network card
[10:01] <vsivak> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[10:01] <justintime32> when i installed it, it detected the wireless card as eth0
[10:01] <gnomefreak> vsivak: sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[10:01] <justintime32> (using the bcm driver)
[10:02] <craize> how can i check if my hardware acceleration is working ?
[10:02] <silvaran> Yeah, but you don't want the bcm driver... you want the ndiswrapper driver with the win32 driver.
[10:02] <justintime32> yeah
[10:02] <silvaran> justintime32: Reboot and pastebin your dmesg
[10:02] <Xanadu> craize: for your vid card?
[10:02] <craize> yah
[10:02] <erUSUL> vsivak, try reinstalling sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:02] <justintime32> ok
[10:02] <vsivak> ok
[10:02] <vsivak> oO another error
[10:02] <vsivak> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[10:02] <vsivak> E: Invalid operation isntall
[10:03] <gatpandoa> tried vlc and i think i already have libdvdcss
[10:03] <_jason> vsivak: install not isntla
[10:03] <Xanadu> vsivak: install not isntall
[10:03] <Falstius> vsivak, you need to spell it right :)
[10:03] <justintime32> how can i add a dirver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/
[10:03] <justintime32> driver*
[10:03] <Xanadu> nah it was gnomefreak spelt it wrong
[10:03] <craize> anyone knows?
[10:03] <sobersabre> hi... Is there a backport of gnome 2.14 into breezy ?
[10:03] <silvaran> justintime32: Just use modprobe.d/blacklist instead ("blacklist bcm43xx")
[10:04] <justintime32> ok
[10:04] <Xanadu> craize: glxgears -printfps
[10:04] <craize> thanks Xanadu
[10:04] <vsivak> i say and also write install
[10:04] <vsivak> what do you mean instla
[10:04] <vsivak> :)
[10:04] <sobersabre> gnomefreak have you rtfm'ed about filesystemz stucture already ?
[10:04] <justintime32> is there a difference between modprobe and hotplug
[10:04] <craize> hrm
[10:04] <Xanadu> if your framerate is over 1000 your 3D acceleration is probably working
[10:04] <craize> doesnt seem to work
[10:04] <sobersabre> justintime32 of course :)
[10:04] <craize> ctrl + alt + backspace restarts X11 right?
[10:04] <silvaran> Xanadu: Or it's a really, really, really tiny glxgears window :)
[10:04] <jbroome> y
[10:04] <vsivak> ok i see
[10:04] <sobersabre> craize not rite!
[10:04] <craize> so it should be hardware accelerated if i added the fireGL drivers
[10:04] <Xanadu> silvaran: or you got a killer processor
[10:04] <silvaran> Heheh
[10:05] <sobersabre> craize Alt+Ctl+Backspace kills X.
[10:05] <craize> so i need to reboot the whole box ?
[10:05] <craize> ah
[10:05] <justintime32> ok, rebooting...
[10:05] <craize> well i installed the driver
[10:05] <craize> and told it to use fglx
[10:05] <Xanadu> craize: no you probably don't need to reboot
[10:05] <craize> weird
[10:05] <sobersabre> justintime32 why are you rebootuing ?
[10:05] <craize> it worked previously fine
[10:05] <sobersabre> too late.
[10:05] <Xanadu> but u need to add fglrx as the driver to xorg.conf
[10:05] <obli> What would the command for 'rename' be to omit an extra '.mp3' in the file names? my files are called file.mp3.mp3
[10:05] <craize> hmmmz
[10:05] <craize> im gonna double check
[10:05] <obli> they're all in subfolders, by the way
[10:05] <craize> xorg.conf resides where?
[10:06] <Xanadu> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: im gonna read up more tomorrow ive been sort of busy and its almost time to eat :)
[10:06] <Falstius> obli, rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" *mp3
[10:06] <craize> thx
[10:06] <obli> ok, thanks
[10:06] <Falstius> obli, uhm, if they're in subfolders you need more
[10:06] <Xanadu> craize: if the drivers are "ati" then it's the ones that come with Ubuntu. If it's "fglrx" then that's what you want.
[10:06] <craize> yeah it says it right
[10:06] <craize> no they are "fglrx"
[10:06] <silvaran> rename "s/\.mp3$//" *mp3 <-- HAH shorter :)
[10:06] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:06] <craize> in the conf
[10:06] <Xanadu> and you restarted X yet?
[10:06] <craize> im gonna try killing X
[10:07] <craize> yes once
[10:07] <craize> with ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:07] <sobersabre> REPEATING: is there a backport of gnome 2.14 for breezy ?
[10:07] <Falstius> obli, silvaran, I always forget the regexp niceties.
[10:07] <silvaran> sobersabre: NO, you need to wait for Dapper.
[10:07] <paxmaster> now it have no sould
[10:07] <paxmaster> now it have no sound *
[10:07] <Xanadu> okay try again
[10:07] <silvaran> Falstius: All is fair, I wasn't aware of the "rename" util :)
[10:07] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: no
[10:07] <sobersabre> silvaran or build it myself, or use Debian pacakge....
[10:07] <Falstius> silvaran, the ubuntu rename works differently than the redhat ... confused me for awhile.
[10:08] <craize> brb
[10:08] <silvaran> Ahh...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: 2.14 was released this morning
[10:08] <Xanadu> paxmaster: you sure the sound card is plugged in nice and snug? might be reason for it sometimes working and sometimes not
[10:08] <sobersabre> gnomefreak SO WHAT ?!?!
[10:08] <silvaran> gnomefreak: But will never be in the breezy repo -- since it's what dapper's for.
[10:08] <sobersabre> it is in dapper already.
[10:08] <obli> silvaran, didn't seem to work on the subdirs
[10:08] <Falstius> obli, it won't ... didn't read that part at first :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: this am
[10:08] <obli> oh
[10:09] <kolosudo> alguien habla espanol?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> silvaran: it might be im not writing the backports for ubuntu
[10:09] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:09] <silvaran> !es
[10:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:09] <sobersabre> kolosudo try ubuntu-es
[10:09] <Enchanter_tim> hello
[10:09] <ploom> khm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?
[10:09] <cyphase> my brezzy machine is crashing soon after logon
[10:09] <Ohm> Hey guys, somebody use the PYTONE?
[10:09] <Falstius> obli, you need: find . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;
[10:09] <cyphase> breezy*
[10:09] <sobersabre> cyphase what lang have you used before ?
[10:09] <Xanadu> cyphase: at what point does it crash?
[10:09] <silvaran> gnomefreak: There are backports for gnome?
[10:10] <obli> ok, trying it
[10:10] <gnomefreak> silvaran: not yet
[10:10] <cyphase> sobersabre, ?
[10:10] <Enchanter_tim> is there a way to use newer versions of certain packages than are available in breezy ?
[10:10] <sobersabre> I meant ploom
[10:10] <Falstius> obli, you can pass the -n option to rename the first time for a "test run"
[10:10] <mischko> How to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?
[10:10] <cyphase> Xanadu, soon after i log on and everything has started (gaim, xchat, etc)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> i havent yet heard plans on there being one since gnome 2.14 was released this morning
[10:10] <sobersabre> ploom what lang is this: "khm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?"
[10:11] <obli> I'm testing it on a separate folder, it didn't seem to work, not even on the file not in a subfolder
[10:11] <ploom> Eesti keel, sobersabre
[10:11] <sobersabre> mischko you've messed up repositories
[10:11] <Enchanter_tim> (for example, i have libgcrypt11  1.2.1-3 but i need >= 1.2.2
[10:11] <cyphase> Xanadu, i start to use a program, and soon, it crashes
[10:11] <sobersabre> estonian ?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: enable backports for some packages im have ubotu pm you the link
[10:11] <cyphase> various programs
[10:11] <sobersabre> ploom ... estonian ?
[10:11] <justintime32> ok, it's still eth0
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Enchanter_tim about backports
[10:11] <Ohm> somebody use the PYTONE for plays mp3?
[10:11] <ploom> sobersabre, natuke vru murraku poole, aga eesti jah :-)
[10:11] <mischko> sobersabre, I don't have it hooked to the network. It's only getting things from CD. New install.
[10:11] <Xanadu> cyphase: might be a hardware problem or incompatibility
[10:11] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: thanks, ill check it out
[10:11] <Falstius> obli, I probably had a typo ...
[10:11] <craize> uhm, this is weird, the first 2 seconds the glxgears runs at a proper framerate, but it drops over to software? my xorg.conf is fine and tells it to use fglrx.... any takers? :(
[10:11] <sobersabre> ploom I have no idea what have you typed.
[10:12] <cyphase> Xanadu, it started when i was running vncviewer
[10:12] <ploom> sobersabre, you should know, your name sounds like friendsabre when taken in estonian :-)
[10:12] <cyphase> then kept going
[10:12] <obli> find . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;        ?
[10:12] <Xanadu> craize: try aticonfig
[10:12] <craize> ok
[10:12] <Falstius> obli, find . -name "*mp3" -exec rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" \{} \;
[10:12] <craize> xanadu, what i do with ati config?
[10:12] <justintime32> the bcm43xx module isn't loaded, and it's still eth0
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: they are unoffical you use tham at own risk
[10:13] <Falstius> not that I don't trust silvaran, but I know my switch will work :)
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: not entirely sure - don't have an ati card :/
[10:13] <silvaran> obli: Go with Falstius -- my regex will end up renaming the files you've already renamed
[10:13] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: well, if i dont, things wont work :D
[10:13] <silvaran> justintime32: What does iwconfig say about your interfaces?
[10:13] <obli> aye, that's it, worked like a charm, my F2 button is grateful
[10:13] <ploom> sobersabre, but I guess you chose the name for sobre (as not drunk in english) rather than friend (sber) :-)
[10:13] <craize> Xanadu: , thanks anyhow :)
[10:13] <silvaran> justintime32: And can you pastebin your dmesg?
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: there's also a howto in the ubuntuforums on how to install the latest ATI drivers
[10:13] <justintime32> it says eth0 too
[10:13] <gnomefreak> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: also saw that ATI released new Linux drivers like yesterday
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: pastebin time :)
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.570000]  ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Linksys,02/12/2003, 3.10.39.7) loaded
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.571000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:09.0[A]  -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 209
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.660000]  ndiswrapper: using irq 209
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: vendor: ''
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0c:41:14:17:97 using driver bcmwl5, 14E4:4320.5.conf
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  ndiswrapper (set_auth_mode:686): setting auth mode to 3 failed (C0010015)
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: encryption modes supported: none
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: Nonono
[10:14] <silvaran> !paste
[10:14] <gnomefreak> justintime32: use pastebin please
[10:14] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:14] <siggi> where can I see what version of kubuntu im using ?? like breezy or what ?
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: After you've submitted to ubotu's link, post the link to it in this channel.
[10:14] <justintime32> sorry, what's that (i'm a noob)
[10:15] <sobersabre> ploom I really have no idea in "Estii" or whatever it is. I have very little knowledge in any baltic language...
[10:15] <gnomefreak> siggi: iirc there is an about in the menu but its been so long since i used kde it might have changed
[10:15] <zF> Grrr!
[10:15] <silvaran> justintime32: Go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, submit your entire dmesg, and send us the link it provides you with.
[10:15] <zF> I hate CUPS!
[10:15] <ploom> siggi, cat /etc/issue would help I guess
[10:15] <zF> I remove it
[10:15] <zF> and somehow it gets reinstalled.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> zF: its part of gnome
[10:15] <ploom> sobersabre, you know its baltic - thats a start
[10:15] <justintime32> ok
[10:15] <sobersabre> zF CUPS is dependency for many things.
[10:15] <JDahl> siggi, you don't know if you installed breezy or another version?
[10:15] <siggi> ploom: thakns :D
[10:15] <zF> it keeps an open port running, gnomefreak - isn't it just for printing?
[10:16] <sobersabre> ploom, c'mon, my gf/bride is from Riga.
[10:16] <hypnotic> hey guys how can i get access to my backup drive (it's a windows formatted hd)
[10:16] <gnomefreak> JDahl: he wants to know kde version i think
[10:16] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: thanks, it doesnt solve my issue, but it might be helpfull knowing that :D
[10:16] <siggi> im just messing with it a lot :)
[10:16] <narg> why is it that pressing shift+backspace or shift+enter restarts x? It is usually only ctrl+alt+backspace...
[10:16] <gnomefreak> hypnotic: ntsf or fat
[10:16] <cyphase> hypnotic, on breezy?
[10:16] <ploom> sobersabre, damn - they really are beautiful down south there
[10:16] <OmegaAlpha> hello, i have a problem with 3dpoker-server that i tried installing a month ago. it never fully installed so now when i install anything it keeps trying to finish installing but then gets an error about mysql and connecting? anyone know how i can remove this package from installing.. i dont want it
[10:16] <Xanadu> narg: it shouldn't (but I'm not going to try it)
[10:16] <sobersabre> :)
[10:16] <cas> narg: because you use xgl?
[10:17] <sobersabre> ok kids, must continue working... will build the gnome for breezy later on.
[10:17] <Enchanter_tim> xgl works?
[10:17] <ploom> sobersabre, but the latvian language is so different - its as similar to lithuanian as estonian is to finnish
[10:17] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[10:17] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:17] <narg> cas: I've toyed with it, but I'm on xorg atm (I think :p) /etc/X11/X points to xorg.
[10:17] <cyphase> hypnotic, on breezy?
[10:18] <nickrud> zF, cups only listens to localhost on that port by default
[10:18] <Enchanter_tim> it doesnt work on the ati mobility chipset, i think
[10:18] <sobersabre> ploom I am sure it is more than romano-germanic group. I mean, I looked at texts in either of the 4 languages, and they have similarities.
[10:18] <sailor> I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:18] <gatpandoa> i have libdvdcss enabled via synaptic
[10:18] <Enchanter_tim> (well, last i tried, it broke my display)
[10:18] <siggi> JDahl: im pretty new to kubuntu and now im messing with xgl setup and just dit apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:18] <gatpandoa> still issue with dvd
[10:18] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: it wont work for alot of people
[10:18] <sobersabre> I don't know how they sound like, but written form has some similarities.
[10:18] <sobersabre> bye
[10:18] <silvaran> sailor: Loose video card on the motherboard?
[10:18] <justintime32> here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237
[10:18] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: try mplayer now
[10:18] <ploom> no - estonian is ugri or finnish language group
[10:18] <narg> cas: so are those the shortcuts in xgl to restart it?
[10:18] <sailor> silvaran: no, it boots windows or a live cd just fine, so its not hardware
[10:19] <hypnotic> cyphase: i am on the newest ubuntu
[10:19] <cas> narg: dunno then, I know this is a xgl/compiz bug, so I think it's weird you have it with the normal X
[10:19] <ploom> and latvian is romanian i guess - at least really different
[10:19] <kridunink> Hello.
[10:19] <arnoud> Hey
[10:19] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: the weird thing is, it sort of works. i get it working with kdm, then when i try to use a windomanager it either dies (goes back to kdm,no mouse and keyboard) or it fails to properly initialize a windowmanager
[10:19] <cyphase> hypnotic, System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:19] <narg> cas: hrm. I can't get Xgl to even start on mine, even though I have the most vanilla nvidia card out there :p Very odd.
[10:19] <arnoud> Anyone known with SuSe Linux 10.0?
[10:19] <kridunink> I am new to linux. Can any one help with a totem error?
[10:20] <silvaran> justintime32: eth0 is your RealTek card, wlan0 is your wireless... do you get normal output with "iwconfig wlan0" ?
[10:20] <craize> im back :(
[10:20] <selinium> gnomefreak, I have look in the repos and cant find any vlc skins? Have you got any strange repos in your sources?
[10:20] <gatpandoa> error opening/initializing selected video is what mplayer says
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: that is highly unstable
[10:20] <ssam> kridunink, whats the error
[10:20] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:20] <lewix> kridunink, im new too and i have an errot with totem but I dont use that i use rythmic box instead
[10:20] <JDahl> siggi, I dont think you will have changed the version of KDE just by doing an upgrade. Breezy should be kde3.4 and Dapper should be kde3.5
[10:20] <richard_> hi there. i have a probelm with my wlan device. after updating to dapper drake i have no wlan0 device anymore
[10:20] <sailor> anyone else have any ideas?
[10:20] <alessandro_> anyone have a asus a2k notebook? query me...
[10:20] <gnomefreak> selinium: ofcourse i do i wouldnt be me if i didnt :)
[10:20] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: what does "hdparm -d /dev/dvd" tell you?
[10:20] <richard_> i use ndiswrapper
[10:20] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: indeed :D im not complaining though. if i break it, i get to fix it again :D
[10:20] <kridunink> ssa, Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing
[10:20] <hypnotic> cyphase: it says inaccessible.. even when i click enable
[10:20] <gnomefreak> but really selinium they should be in multiverse i would think
[10:21] <cas> narg: try xgl-ubuntu for xgl related stuff, I do think you allready run xgl because of this bug but you have problems with compiz
[10:21] <justintime32> wlan0     No such device
[10:21] <selinium> gnomefreak, lol, that would explain it. I have multiverse....
[10:21] <ssam> kridunink, what are you trying to play
[10:21] <silvaran> richard_: Do you have a broadcom-based device? (ie: bcmwl5)?
[10:21] <richard_> yes
[10:21] <cas> narg: i ment #xgl-ubuntu
[10:21] <lewix> ssam, are you saml ?
[10:21] <justintime32> i can do the pastebin for the whole iwconfig output
[10:21] <sureshot> Hello can anyone tell me if there is a linux or ubuntu equivlent to the microsoft phone manage for the ms 900 phone manager
[10:21] <richard_> i have a linksys pci wireless card with the bcmwl5 driver
[10:21] <ssam> lewix, no sorry
[10:21] <JDahl> siggi, maybe that sounded a bit vague.. you will _not_ have changed the version of KDE just by playing around with upgrades etc - there's only one version in the repositories
[10:21] <hypnotic> cyphase: do i need to add a access path?
[10:21] <narg> cas: ...how would I be running xgl? the X symlink points to Xorg :p
[10:21] <selinium> gnomefreak, I am pretty sure I have!.... [sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list]   :)
[10:21] <kridunink> ssa, it is a mpg file. I got codecs and packages info from a forum.
[10:21] <silvaran> justintime32: Sure, and also ifconfig -a would help
[10:21] <gatpandoa> /dev/dvd using dma=1 (on)
[10:21] <justintime32> ok
[10:21] <gatpandoa> thats all
[10:22] <cyphase> hypnotic, yes
[10:22] <gnomefreak> selinium: it may only be in dapper also
[10:22] <craize> anyone got a Radeon 9700 Pro to be hardware accelerated? I installed the driver, its used from xorg.conf too, but it still only gives me ~180FPS when running glxgears....
[10:22] <ssam> kridunink, does any sound play from other applications?
[10:22] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: could be video card, or a lot of other stuff
[10:22] <narg> cas: its #ubuntu-xgl btw ;)
[10:22] <cas> narg: I only changed my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:22] <silvaran> richard_: Dapper comes with an experimental bcm43xx driver .. I haven't got it to work, neither has justintime32 :).  Shoot where's that wiki?  I know there's a page for switching back to ndiswrapper...
[10:22] <hypnotic> cyphase: what should i put the access path at? desktop?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> selinium: the name of package iirc is vlc-skins but dont hold me to that
[10:22] <cas> narg: neh, #xgl-ubuntu has better support :P
[10:22] <selinium> gnomefreak, cheers.
[10:22] <kridunink> ssam, yes on boot up and sounds from using ubuntu
[10:23] <richard_> silvaran: thanks, that was a usefull hint. I'll try to find it
[10:23] <justintime32> apparently, the bcm43xx only works on some wmp54g cards
[10:23] <narg> cas: woah, two channels. Odd :p
[10:23] <gnomefreak> selinium: check on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <martyn_> can an1 point me in the right direction on how to install drivers for a nvida 7800gt grapics card
[10:23] <cyphase> hypnotic, look in the wiki. wiki.ubuntu.com . i'm in the middle of a crisis right now :S
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell martyn_ about nvidia
[10:23] <gatpandoa> hmmm
[10:23] <ssam> kridunink, ok, what other programs do you have open? some programs are rude and block the sound from other
[10:23] <justintime32> here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238
[10:23] <gnomefreak> martyn_: your pm has instructions
[10:23] <sureshot> is there any such software to handle a phone and such for telephone connected to the serial port
[10:23] <silvaran> richard_: Check out section "2.3.3" of  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28bcm43xx%29
[10:23] <sailor>  I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:24] <silvaran> This should really be in #ubuntu+1, but now we've got 3 broadcom people in here already :)
[10:24] <Xanadu> craize: did you install the linux-restricted-modules packages?
[10:24] <thomas`> how do you benchmark with glxgears?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[10:24] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[10:24] <thomas`> to see your fps? cuz id like to seemine
[10:24] <gatpandoa> that brings me the the graphic card question i have 2 graphic card one is an nvidia which is an add on vga card
[10:24] <richard_> silvaran: great!!
[10:24] <kridunink> ssam, i just have the disks manager and file system and a couple of internet open. no other apps.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> thomas`: glxgears -printfps and its not a benchmark
[10:24] <thomas`> cool
[10:24] <gatpandoa> how do i enable that and enabble ubuntu to see it as an add on vga
[10:24] <weedar> silvaran, I use the bcmwl5a module in ndiswrapper too, do I count? :)
[10:24] <craize> Xanadu: yes i believe so
[10:25] <gnomefreak> gatpandoa: use the nvidia if i were you
[10:25] <ssam> kridunink, do you have firefox on a page with flash? that might do it
[10:25] <craize> for 386
[10:25] <silvaran> weedar: Yup, so that's 4 :)
[10:25] <Falstius> gatpandoa, you want two screens or?
[10:25] <selinium> gnomefreak, only shows the ones I have in my repos...
[10:25] <craize> last time i did it for 686, then it worked
[10:25] <thomas`> i get 10,700fps
[10:25] <gatpandoa> no one screen is fine
[10:25] <craize> guess im gonna try that
[10:25] <thomas`> in glx gears
[10:25] <Xanadu> thomas`: yeah it's not authorative in any way but if you change something in the drivers and you run it again and you get more fps, it's a good sign
[10:25] <thomas`> nice lol.
[10:25] <silvaran> justintime32: That is some weird, wild funky stuff... you've got dmesg spouting out wlan0 but finally settling on eth0 after assigning eth0 away to your realtek card!!! (only I didn't believe you at first :)
[10:25] <justintime32> i know
[10:25] <MisterN> hi
[10:25] <erUSUL> sailor, try looking at /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:25] <craize> tell CraiZE about ati
[10:25] <justintime32> i'm not a linux noob, an irc noob
[10:25] <Enchanter_tim> thomas`: or minimize glxgears and get more fps ;)
[10:25] <kridunink> ssam, i think not. there seems to be no flash up, just forums from ubuntu
[10:25] <craize> hrmm
[10:25] <craize> the bot isnt msging me .(
[10:25] <Spec> justintime32: what's up?
[10:26] <urmom> howdy would any of you know where to get a pcb for my westerndigital caviar 8oGB EIDE or if this would even be a plausable alternative to RMAing it?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> but il have to enable nvidia as as on in cmos
[10:26] <craize> !tell CraiZE about ATI
[10:26] <justintime32> on breezy, without the bcm driver, it worked fine
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: you're trying to use bcm43xx?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> question is i can do that but how will ubuntu know its an add on
[10:26] <justintime32> nope, that didn't work
[10:26] <silvaran> justintime32: If you get a chance, try sending your 2 pastebin links http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 to #ubuntu+1 -- they may have more experience with it, since dapper made the executive decision to stick the bcm43xx into dapper.
[10:26] <justintime32> i'm trying ndiswrapper
[10:26] <Xanadu> craize: what does "uname -r" tell you?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> and where and how do i eanble nvidia in ubuntu
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: what kernel are you running?
[10:26] <silvaran> Spec: We've disabled it (seemingly) by blacklisting it.
[10:26] <ssam> kridunink, ok, i recommend that you try a couple of other video players, totem is not that good yet
[10:26] <urmom> need a wd PCB
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: lsmod |grep -i bcm please
[10:27] <ssam> kridunink, xine and vlc are quite good
[10:27] <justintime32> 2.6.15-18-386
[10:27] <kridunink> ssam, ok cool thanks. alot i will try that.
[10:27] <silvaran> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 if I can rope you into this one :)
[10:27] <justintime32> Spec: it returns nothing
[10:27] <ssam> kridunink, are you ok at installing stuff?
[10:27] <Spec> excellent
[10:27] <Spec> did it load when you booted?
[10:27] <Spec> or have you since rebooted since blacklisting?
[10:27] <gouchi> Hi
[10:27] <Spec> if it loaded when you booted, be sure to rmmod ndiswrapper;modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:28] <justintime32> nope
[10:28] <urmom> help with finding a new PCB for my harddrive any one?
[10:28] <justintime32> i blacklisted it
[10:28] <Spec> then rebooted?
[10:28] <weedar> silvaran, sorry for butting in the conversation =) but does this mean that when dapper is released we will have an alternative to ndiswrapper?
[10:28] <kridunink> ssam, it takes me a little while to figure it out. only had linux for three days. i have to use a terminal and type in the code right?
[10:28] <Spec> yes
[10:28] <silvaran> justintime32: Is it still working okay, even with the erroneous device assignments?
[10:28] <justintime32> yeah
[10:28] <Spec> weedar: i don't use ndiswrapper
[10:28] <sailor> anyone?
[10:28] <Spec> weedar: i have a bcm4306
[10:28] <gatpandoa> any help with nvidia?
[10:28] <ssam> kridunink, you can use system -> administation -> synaptic package manger
[10:28] <silvaran> weedar: For only 1-2 specific wireless cards, and the driver is currently experimental.  And you still need to manually extract the proprietary firmware from the windows .sys drivers.
[10:28] <Xanadu> sailor whats the question?
[10:29] <Spec> silvaran: no you don't
[10:29] <Spec> silvaran: there are unofficial debs available
[10:29] <justintime32> the internet is working
[10:29] <Spec> justintime32: hmm?
[10:29] <justintime32> however, i still have to manually start it each time
[10:29] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you can download basic nvidia drivers through synaptic
[10:29] <weedar> Spec, ah. I'm using a belkin card, but it uses the same chip it would seem
[10:29] <kridunink> ssam, oh yeah that too. thanks. and i have to make the new one the primary player right
[10:29] <gouchi> Hi
[10:29] <justintime32> and i can't access my own computer
[10:29] <silvaran> Spec: Ahhh... still.
[10:29] <Spec> justintime32: manually start what?
[10:29] <justintime32> for example, i have an apache server running
[10:29] <justintime32> and i can't access it from localhost
[10:29] <ssam> kridunink, if you right click on a file you can choose play with -> xine
[10:29] <sailor>  I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:29] <justintime32> Spec: the wireless card
[10:29] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: or get the linux drivers from nvidia.com which I always find a little tricky to install
[10:29] <Spec> is apache bound to a specific ip?
[10:30] <gouchi> which new tool allow to manage right user ? I don't remember
[10:30] <justintime32> nope
[10:30] <Spec> justintime32: okay, so, you can get the wireless card to work with ndiswrapper?
[10:30] <justintime32> however, i forwarded port 8080 to my pc (the port apache runs on)
[10:30] <gouchi> there is Sabayon and ? something like Persoluss
[10:30] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: do you want two screens running off the two cards?
[10:30] <ssam> kridunink, or from right click -> properties you can choose the default app for that file type
[10:30] <Falstius> sailor, you should try booting into single user mode ...
[10:30] <gouchi> something like that
[10:30] <siggi> JDahl: im using this tutorial http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[10:30] <Spec> justintime32: what do you need to do to get it to work after it boots?
[10:30] <justintime32> i can get at it using my wan IP from here and other computers
[10:30] <gouchi> any idea ?
[10:30] <sailor> Falstius, how do I do that?
[10:30] <justintime32> after it boots, i need to open the network manager and activate it
[10:30] <urmom> ok then does any one have any good ubuntu compatible RTS games like command and conquer look alikes?
[10:30] <kridunink> ssam, thanks for the tip. you have been lots of help. do you know any way to play games designed for windows?
[10:30] <justintime32> for some reason, ifup won't work
[10:31] <Spec> justintime32: wanna take this to PM?
[10:31] <Spec> so you can paste me some info
[10:31] <justintime32> sure
[10:31] <justintime32> ok
[10:31] <silvaran> Spec: Thanks ;) I tried.
[10:31] <Falstius> sailor, when the system is booting hit "esc" to enter the grub menu, hit "e" to edit the entry and and "single" to the end of the kernel line.  Hit enter and "b" for boot.
[10:31] <justintime32> thanks
[10:31] <ssam> kridunink, i haven't done it myself, but you might want to look up wine
[10:31] <JDahl> siggi, I didn't catch what your problem was... did you dist-upgrade and things stopped working?
[10:31] <sailor> Falstius, lemme give that a try...
[10:31] <kridunink> ssam, i did find that was just not sure how it would work, thanks
[10:32] <Xanadu> urmom: Wesnoth is a very addictive turn-based strat game
[10:32] <WhyvasLT> is gmail down for anyone else?
[10:32] <gatpandoa> no xanadu justone monitor here
[10:32] <weedar> The day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly I'll have nothing to complain over
[10:32] <ssam> kridunink, there should be a howto somewhere, maybe someone else can help
[10:32] <ssam> kridunink, there a quite few good linux games
[10:32] <Falstius> sailor, there will be some notes at the bottom of the screen to remind you
[10:32] <Moe|Joe> hey people
[10:32] <WhyvasLT> weedar, go back to windows and shut up then....
[10:32] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay let me get this straight: you got two cards and one is nvidia and one is just an arb card right?
[10:32] <martyn_> yeah gmail is down
[10:32] <silvaran> weedar: The day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly Linus' grandchildren will have written their own operating system.
[10:32] <gatpandoa> yes
[10:32] <Moe|Joe> i need a ndiswrapper expert :P
[10:32] <urmom> xandu anyothers you know of?
[10:33] <gatpandoa> using onboard card right now
[10:33] <siggi> JDahl: no I havo no problem other than i wanted know where i cound see the version i was using: cat /etc/issue
[10:33] <kridunink> ssam, yes thanks alot, i will have to look into the linux games. i just love baldur's gate though
[10:33] <siggi> :)
[10:33] <weedar> WhyvasLT, thanks for that insightful comment I'm glad I wasted bandwidth getting it to display on my monitor
[10:33] <Spec> weedar: my wireless card is working right now
[10:33] <Spec> weedar: but you mean any as in all?
[10:33] <Xanadu> urmom: check out Ur Quan Masters (uqm in the repos) - a re-release of Star Control II
[10:33] <martyn_> buy a wirless bridge
[10:33] <gatpandoa> installed nvidia for gaming
[10:33] <Xanadu> urmom: v cool
[10:33] <Moe|Joe> anyone here using ndiswrapper? i got a problem :s
[10:34] <ssam> kridunink, glad to help, freeciv and wesnorth a good if you like turnbased stratergy
[10:34] <silvaran> Moe|Joe: Dapper?
[10:34] <urmom> ty xandu are these in the apget program?
[10:34] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: and you're not getting anything thru the nvidia card but you are through the vga?
[10:34] <weedar> Spec, well not necessarily "all" cards available on the market. But it seems to me that many of the cards available in the norwegian market needs some fiddling around to work
[10:34] <kbrooks> any cool games in the ubuntu repos?
[10:34] <Xanadu> urmom: yeah (might be universe or multiverse - not sure)
[10:34] <Moe|Joe> ubuntu says my card is installed but...the lights on the wifi card are not showing
[10:34] <tristanmike> kbrooks, define "cool"
[10:34] <kridunink> ssam, thanks for the tip
[10:34] <Falstius> kbrooks, nethack and Maelstorm :)
[10:34] <Moe|Joe> silvaran: nope breezy
[10:34] <gatpandoa> yes
[10:34] <weedar> Spec, and since we all want Linux used by most people (right?) they should work prettymuch out of the box like regular ethernet cards :)
[10:34] <urmom> ty much xandu
[10:34] <gatpandoa> that is true z=xanadu
[10:34] <sailor> Falstius, that worked... so now how do I figure out why and how to fix it so I can boot normally?
[10:34] <Spec> yes, the problem is
[10:34] <Spec> proprietary firmware
[10:34] <Spec> and the fact that they don't release any information to us
[10:34] <kbrooks> tristanmike, why is "cool" soooo subjective
[10:34] <silvaran> Moe|Joe: Nasty... I don't have any wireless experience other than ndiswrapper on dapper with a broadcom card :(
[10:35] <Moe|Joe> hmm
[10:35] <tristanmike> kbrooks, cause I don't think nethack, for instance, is "cool"
[10:35] <Moe|Joe> im using that ndisgtk
[10:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay each card should have its own PCI address
[10:35] <kbrooks> Falstius, what is maelstorm?
[10:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa hang on have to check this out myself ;)
[10:35] <gatpandoa> okie
[10:35] <gatpandoa> :)
[10:35] <Falstius> sailor, the first then you should do it turn off gdm ... chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:35] <kbrooks> tristanmike, cool: not textbased, easy to play
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, supertux
[10:36] <Falstius> sailor, that will keep it from booting into the graphical environment for now (until you can fix it)
[10:36] <weedar> Spec, sure I know the reason. But I doubt joe-anybody cares - Most people just want things to work :/
[10:36] <hypnotic> i now have access to my HD but when i made a shortcut it said this user does not have permission to view it.. can someone help me
[10:36] <kbrooks> tristanmike, i have already played that.
[10:36] <sailor> Falstius, OK, i'll try that... any ideas on how I'd try to figure out whats making it do this though?
[10:36] <JDahl> siggi, I normally use aptitude to browse package information... you can also do that from the command line 'dpkg --help'. For example, dpkg -s kubuntu-desktop spits out a lot of info
[10:36] <silvaran> hypnotic: ntfs?
[10:36] <ssam> kbrooks, wesnorth
[10:36] <kbrooks> Falstius, what is maelstorm?
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, then you played frozenbubble then too ?
[10:36] <hypnotic> yes silvaran
[10:36] <kbrooks> tristanmike, yes
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, maelstrom An arcade-style game resembling Asteroids.
[10:36] <weedar> Moe|Joe, some cards don't light up until you connect to a wireless network. Have you tried?
[10:36] <Spec> weedar: Yes, but Ubuntu doesn't like having proprietary stuff in it (obviously), so...we're at a stand still :p
[10:37] <kbrooks> ssam: and what is wesnorth? :)
[10:37] <Falstius> sailor, use "startx" to start xwindows from the command line.  It may still fail but should give you some error info to go by.  Did you recently update your video drivers?
[10:37] <Spec> weedar: justintime quit, he never responded to my pms? :p
[10:37] <Xanadu> okay gatpandoa you should have a section under xorg.conf called "Device" which should have a "BusID" thingy in it
[10:37] <tristanmike> kbrooks, what about Wesnoth ?
[10:37] <kbrooks> spec: um.
[10:37] <ssam> kbrooks, wesnoth (sorry typo before) is a turn based stratergy
[10:37] <kbrooks> spec: first things first
[10:37] <Falstius> kbrooks: asteroids clone.
[10:37] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that BusID points to the PCI slot that the card it's accessing is in
[10:37] <Spec> kbrooks: yes?
[10:37] <urmom> how large is freeciv?
[10:38] <sailor> Falstius, no, I haven't changed them since I installed them with Automatix
[10:38] <ssam> kbrooks, mission based, lots of campaigns
[10:38] <Falstius> sailor, I don't know what automatix is ...
[10:38] <kbrooks> spec: ubuntu doesnt block you from installing proprietary stuff
[10:38] <urmom> and where do i get wesnoth?
[10:38] <gatpandoa> how do i access xorg.conf via term?
[10:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: so to get the right card working, change the BusID to the correct one (figuring that out is another story - will have to do some digging). Suggest you just leave the driver as "vga" untill it's working
[10:38] <Spec> kbrooks: no, but it's not in MAIN
[10:38] <tristanmike> kbrooks, how about Stratagus
[10:38] <silvaran> hypnotic: I never really read that wiki... essentially all I do is edit /etc/fstab, and for my ntfs line, I make sure "options" has "ro,umask=0222" ... then umount /media/hda1 and mount /media/hda1 or wherever your mountpoint is.
[10:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <Spec> kbrooks: and therefore will not Just Work (tm)
[10:39] <ssam> urmom, you can install it with synaptic package manager
[10:39] <Kyral> gatpandoa, sudo <insert favorite editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <sailor> Falstius, it's just an auto install script for lots of commonly used packages--it installed the nvidia driver for me
[10:39] <kbrooks> spec: second, the ubuntu community will never charge a fee to people who wish to install these proprietary programs
[10:39] <urmom> tyssam
[10:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: it's the main file containing all the devices for X so it's pretty useful
[10:39] <hypnotic> thank you bud
[10:39] <gouchi> pessulus ;-)
[10:39] <kbrooks> spec, and finally: it doesnt object to the use of them, either.
[10:40] <Ohm> How I install the JAVA SCRIPT?
[10:40] <Kyral> !java
[10:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:40] <weedar> Java is not javascript
[10:40] <silvaran> I hope he didn't mean JavaScript.
[10:40] <Falstius> sailor, and it worked after that?  You might poke around in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if there's something glaringly wrong.  But seeing stuff like that takes some experience.
[10:40] <Kyral> Actually do you know what I found is the best popup blocker?
[10:40] <Spec> kbrooks: that has nothing to do with what i said?
[10:40] <weedar> Kyral, lynx? ;)
[10:40] <paxmaster> I am removable dvd drive
[10:40] <Spec> Ubuntu will not put proprietary stuff into it's distrobution.
[10:40] <urmom> where do i find synaptic in add programs? ssasm
[10:40] <bddebian> Kyral: NOt using dar intarweb?
[10:40] <OmegaAlpha> anybody use 3ddesktop in here?
[10:40] <Falstius> sailor, you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:40] <gatpandoa> how do i use that paste site to paste u what xorg says
[10:41] <sailor> Falstius, yeah, it worked just fine after that, and then this randomly started happening some weeks later... And I'm not sure I have enough experience to really notice anything wrong with the xorg conf
[10:41] <silvaran> paxmaster: I'm an internal hard drive, nice to meet you.
[10:41] <Spec> end of story, next fact -> lots of wireless cards won't work without proprietary stuff
[10:41] <ssam> urmom, system -> admin
[10:41] <Kyral> bddebian, nope, not installing Java :P
[10:41] <Kyral> nor Flash :P
[10:41] <paxmaster> now when I try put it back it no detectonf
[10:41] <marcy> hi
[10:41] <paxmaster> same
[10:41] <marcy> how can i take off the kubuntu splash from grub
[10:41] <Falstius> sailor, its also possible that you have some hardware that is failing ...
[10:41] <marcy> ?
[10:41] <Kyral> when you consider that most popups use Java and Flash to work... :P
[10:41] <gatpandoa> xanadu? how do i pate you what my xorg.conf says
[10:41] <paxmaster> I am have a removable dvd drive
[10:42] <silvaran> gatpandoa: Did you get ubotu's message about pastepin?
[10:42] <paxmaster> now when I try put it back it no detecting
[10:42] <silvaran> s/pastepin/pastebin/
[10:42] <gatpandoa> yes one sec
[10:42] <sailor> Falstius, the machine boots fine to windows or a live cd, so I don't think it's hardware
[10:42] <gatpandoa> asting to u
[10:42] <kbrooks> i'm a USB hard drive, nice to meet you. now use me, someone.
[10:42] <paxmaster> what wrong
[10:42] <gatpandoa> pasting to u
[10:42] <weedar> Spec, if you know - does the centrino wlan cards work "out of the box" now?
[10:42] <silvaran> kbrooks: You're a serial device!
[10:42] <Spec> nope, I do not know
[10:42] <marcy> i wanna put the ubuntu splash when the computer starts instead of kubuntu
[10:42] <Spec> broadcom doesn't work out of the box :-/
[10:42] <Spec> in fact, broadcom is broken out of the box due to lack of firmware
[10:42] <silvaran> kbrooks: I guess it's not as funny in chat as it was in my head.
[10:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell marcy about usplashchange
[10:43] <Spec> silvaran: :p
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> no 3ddesktop users in here?
[10:43] <marcy> thanks
[10:43] <kbrooks> silvaran, i was merely being creative
[10:43] <Falstius> sailor, probably not then.  Well, first try startx and look in .xsession-errors to see what it says.
[10:43] <MdSalih> hello all
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> ok how about does anyone know how to remove a package that isnt fully installed from fully installing?
[10:43] <weedar> Serial devices are never funny. Unterminated external SCSI-devices though..
[10:43] <MdSalih> How do i start Gnome in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <silvaran> kbrooks: Nah it was my lame answer to your comment.
[10:43] <Xanadu> gatpandoa what's the pastebin link?
[10:43] <Moe|Joe> MdSalih: startx
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> !tell Xanadu about pastebin
[10:44] <kbrooks> silvaran, ya ya right...........
[10:44] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:44] <silvaran> psycho_oreos: He needs the link to something somebody else pasted.
[10:44] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, synaptic package manager should list it as a broken package
[10:44] <silvaran> Maybe ubotu should remind people to resubmit their pasted text link to the channel :)
[10:44] <ramza3> anybody use gnuserv with emacs
[10:44] <cerebrix> could someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)
[10:44] <kbrooks> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:44] <MdSalih> Moe|Joe - startx doesn't seem to do anything.. my screen goes blank :(
[10:44] <shiv> What does this command mean? sudo rm -f /usr/share/applications/nvu.desktop
[10:44] <ReWT_> my sound isnt working?
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> silvaran: ahh ok my bad
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> hmmm
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> wird
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, its not a broken package
[10:44] <silvaran> Mmm... webboard, gotta try that.
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> *weird
[10:44] <gazanfer> hello
[10:44] <PaoloC> hi all, can anybosy help me in adding again winXP to my grub boot?
[10:45] <kbrooks> ubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install (.*?)//
[10:45] <ubotu> that doesn't contain 'Install (.*?)', kbrooks
[10:45] <PaoloC> i lost it upgrading to drapper...
[10:45] <gatpandoa> how do i find out pastebin link
[10:45] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that's a screenshot and the stuff I need to see is further down
[10:45] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, i think it counts things that did not cleanly install
[10:45] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:45] <silvaran> kbrooks: Is that how you "program" the guy?
[10:45] <sailor> Falstius, how would I make the machine start booting x again automatically? chmod a+x?
[10:45] <kbrooks> ubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)//
[10:45] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[10:45] <gazanfer> i have a problem: my ubuntu system can not see one of two exact windows xp computers.
[10:45] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10239
[10:45] <Seveas> kbrooks, ?
[10:45] <Xanadu> gatpandoa look for "section Device"
[10:45] <PaoloC> please, can anybody contact me privatly?
[10:46] <Seveas> don't mess with perfectly fine factoids
[10:46] <Ohm> How can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT?
[10:46] <Ohm> ???
[10:46] <Falstius> sailor, yep
[10:46] <Seveas> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:46] <Seveas> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org -
[10:46] <MdSalih> !startx
[10:46] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MdSalih
[10:46] <urmom> is 100kB/s any good for a cheap dsl connection?
[10:46] <silvaran> Seveas: Why did he do that?
[10:46] <Falstius> but since in testing you might reboot or crash the system, its best to leave that off for now.
[10:46] <Xanadu> gatpandoa or just dump the whole file in pastebin
[10:46] <Seveas> !no pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar 
[10:46] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:46] <sailor> Falstius, OK, i'm going to reboot now
[10:46] <Falstius> sailor, to make it book into graphics, chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:47] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, well the reason its not fully installed is that it try to connects to a mysql server which i dont think i have installed and gets an error. but then stops right there and everytime i try to install anything it keeps trying to connecting to the server and gets the error again
[10:47] <ssam> urmom, bits or bytes?
[10:47] <LRF> This is my first use of X-chat so pardon stupid question.  I am trying to use Totem to play a .wmv file and get this message:  The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.  I am a brand new linux user so any help would be appreciated.  I tried searching for help, but could not find anything.  Also, sorry if I'm not posting in c
[10:47] <LRF> orrect "channel".
[10:47] <sailor> Falstius, should I boot into single again?
[10:47] <Falstius> sailor, did xwindows work?
[10:47] <eobanb> can anyone recommend a small lightweight acpi battery monitor, preferably one that integrates with fluxbox
[10:47] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10240
[10:47] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, how did you try to install it?
[10:47] <sailor> Falstius, it did in single, rebooting now to check xsession-errors
[10:47] <urmom> bytes
[10:47] <cerebrix> could someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)
[10:47] <silvaran> !fixres
[10:47] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, terminal
[10:47] <silvaran> cerebrix: There you go :)O
[10:47] <IceTox> Hey.. I wanna try this new graphical environment (other than KDE and Gnome). I just noticed there are no /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. It it replaced somewhere?
[10:47] <Falstius> sailor, just type "init 2"
[10:48] <martyn_> whats the comand from the comand line not termianl to start gnome aganin
[10:48] <gatpandoa> xanadu its
[10:48] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10240
[10:48] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, with apt-get?
[10:48] <Falstius> that will go into multiuser mode without rebooting.
[10:48] <kbrooks> thanks Sevites :P
[10:48] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that BusID "PCI:0:1:0" is pointing to your vga card
[10:48] <gatpandoa> yup
[10:48] <silvaran> kbrooks: Why remove the webboard reference?
[10:48] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, nevermind i just found it in synaptic.. it said it was installed but it isnt so now im doing a complete removal
[10:48] <sailor> Falstius, OK, one sec...
[10:48] <kbrooks> silvaran, never mind. its over.
[10:48] <Xanadu> anyone know off the top of their heads how to get the PCI address of an AGP card? (save some google time for me)
[10:49] <silvaran> OK
[10:49] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, ok, thats the easiest way to deal with it
[10:49] <p01n7> howdy OmegaAlpha
[10:49] <zezu> Is there a backup copy of my hosts file that ubuntu would have created ?
[10:49] <_jason> martyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:49] <Falstius> Xanadu, lspic?
[10:49] <Falstius> er lspci
[10:49] <zezu> I seem to be ok without it but gnome complains
[10:49] <silvaran> Xanadu: lspci can give it to you
[10:49] <zezu> or how can i add my current host to it so it will stop ?
[10:49] <ssam> lrf, did you get a reply yet?
[10:49] <PaoloC> is there a tool for automatically detect the menu.lst setting for booting winxp?
[10:49] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, hey man whats burning?
[10:49] <Xanadu> kewl ta
[10:49] <gazanfer> Falstius, can you help me with a network issue?
[10:49] <_jason> martyn_: or I suppose it would just be 'start' instead of 'restart' if it isn't running
[10:49] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, sadly nothing
[10:50] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, thanks for your time though.. i wonder if that poker3d game is good graphics like the holdem online games
[10:50] <martyn_> k
[10:50] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, heh not over here
[10:50] <LRF> ssam, not yet
[10:50] <zezu> hm
[10:50] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: lspci | grep -i nvidia | more
[10:50] <zezu> it wont let me do sudo -i either
[10:50] <zezu> gethostbyname() doesn't work for my host
[10:51] <ssam> LRF, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats let us know if you dont understand anything
[10:51] <zezu> lessee what google says about the format of hosts file i guess
[10:51] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, busy as ever trying to get this harddrive fix... i took a lil break though and now screwing around with VNC but cant get that to work right either
[10:51] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line to this folder
[10:51] <kbrooks> ROFL Seveas
[10:51] <anna> hi guys, can somebody help me? i cant play mkv files..
[10:51] <kbrooks> Seveas: you kicked yourself out of here
[10:51] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: then pastebin it (mark with mouse and ctrl-shift-c to copy from the console)
[10:51] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, leave me the hell out of it :P
[10:52] <Ohm> How can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT???
[10:52] <zezu> err i can't do sudo to write to the /etc/hosts
[10:52] <zezu> any ideas ?
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, when I try to load .xsession-errors, it says gedit was not able to detect the character encoding
[10:52] <Seveas> !tell Ohm about java
[10:52] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, lol no i will leave you in!
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, nano will read it
[10:52] <EvilDin> why my ubuntu have avalable only resolution 640x480
[10:52] <urmom> how does one install wes
[10:52] <ssam> Ohm, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:52] <zezu> and i can't modify it to be writeable
[10:52] <silvaran> PaoloC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10242
[10:52] <zezu> anyone?
[10:52] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, ever use 3ddesktop?
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, what are you looking for in this file?
[10:52] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder
[10:53] <p01n7> yes
[10:53] <Xanadu> zezu: who's the owner of the file?
[10:53] <Falstius> sailor, you are able to boot into xwindows to run gedit?
[10:53] <ssam> urmom, synaptic package manager
[10:53] <zezu> Xanadu, probably root
[10:53] <zezu> lemme check
[10:53] <Xanadu> zezu: then should work fine
[10:53] <anna> does anyone know how to play matroska files?
[10:53] <sailor> Falstius, in single user mode, yes
[10:53] <gatpandoa> wish me luck ,otherwise its back to reinstalling ubuntu
[10:53] <urmom> game have any 3d graphics support?
[10:53] <cas> zenrox: did you tried `sudo gedit /etc/hosts` ?
[10:53] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, i installed it thru terminal. and i typed in '3ddesktop' and nothing happened
[10:53] <zezu> err
[10:53] <Falstius> sailor, then xsession-errors isn't likely to tell you very much ...
[10:53] <p01n7> lol, it's running
[10:53] <cas> zenrox: sorry ment zezu
[10:53] <zezu> the problem is that sudo isn't working
[10:53] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, apt-get install packagename
[10:54] <zezu> b/c the hosts file can't find my hostname
[10:54] <sailor> Falstius, I can't check it when I have the problem since I can't get signal from the vid card...
[10:54] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:54] <zezu> or else i'd just readd it
[10:54] <gatpandoa> Xanadu nvidia driver installation says installer must be run as root
[10:54] <LRF> ssam, thanks, I'll have a look at the wiki.  However, Totem will not start up from the application menu even before i specify what type of file to open. ????
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, yes i know
[10:54] <gatpandoa> i thought user is root in ubuntu
[10:54] <Xanadu> zezu sudo isn't dependent on host file
[10:54] <martyn_> can any help or not
[10:54] <martyn_> can any help or not
[10:54] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, i know how to install stuff :)
[10:54] <Falstius> sailor, you can quit xwindows and start gdm manually.
[10:54] <cas> zezu: boot into save mode and add it then
[10:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa you already on to that?
[10:54] <obli> how do I get a higher screen res than 1024x768? I'm pretty sure I picked 1280x1024 when installing...
[10:54] <zezu> zezu@faerun:~$ sudo vi /etc/hosts
[10:54] <zezu> sudo: unable to lookup faerun via gethostbyname()
[10:54] <sailor> Falstius, trying to boot as normal without auto gdm right now
[10:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: run it as sudo nvidia-blahblah
[10:54] <silvaran> martyn_: You should probably use the prepackaged nvidia driver.
[10:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell obli about fixres
[10:54] <gatpandoa> yes why is it saying must be installed as root
[10:55] <zezu> save mode ?
[10:55] <zezu> perhaps i can just switch to RL1 ?
[10:55] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, run 3ddesk in a terminal
[10:55] <obli> yay
[10:55] <gatpandoa> how do i change to root
[10:55] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you can do man 3desktop to find out about it
[10:55] <cas> zezu: yes it should be in your grub menu by default
[10:55] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: it's been a looong time since I installed nvidia stuff
[10:55] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, i installed 3ddesktop thru terminal..no errors... so then i went to run it.. which i assume by typing '3ddesktop' in ther terminal and nothing happened.. same thing with my glunarclock program
[10:55] <p01n7> after first run.. '3ddesk' again with launch the switcher
[10:55] <_jason> obli: do that if you don't have choices in system > preferences > screen resolution
[10:55] <martyn_> silvram: i am trying ti get them installed to lower the gou fan speed as its very loud plus for playing games
[10:55] <ramza3> what is a good ftp client for ubuntu
[10:55] <zezu> so if my hostname is faerun, should i just add : 127.0.0.1 faerun localhost ?
[10:55] <obli> ok
[10:55] <Falstius> sailor, okay.  You can also try starting gdm from the command line (chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm; /etc/init.d/gdm start)
[10:55] <ramza3> besides ftp
[10:55] <Xanadu> getpandoa: run it from the command line with "sudo nvidia-blahblah" (whatever it's called)
[10:56] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, awesome that worked!
[10:56] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, for glunarclock you need to right click on the panal and choose add, then find it in the list
[10:56] <obli> Do i need to download the catalyst drivers from ATI ?
[10:56] <silvaran> martyn_: nvidia-settings?
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, did you get that?
[10:56] <Xanadu> zezu: try nano or pico
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, ok
[10:56] <selinium> is there a commnd line ftp command as standard?
[10:56] <sailor> Falstius, OK
[10:56] <zezu> I'm still not going to have permissions to write
[10:56] <zezu> but i'll try
[10:56] <gatpandoa> no luck eh
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha,i have it bined to short-cut-keys
[10:56] <silvaran> selinium: lftp should be there on fresh install ... otherwise apt-get it.
[10:56] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah its pretty cool.  not necessary but neat, def can impress my buddies with this since they know nothign about ocmputers
[10:56] <selinium> silvaran, cheers
[10:56] <p01n7> binded *
[10:57] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you should see xgl
[10:57] <cas> zezu: reboot and select the select the (recovery mode)
[10:57] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah ill have to keep typing it in terminal if i dont bind a key to it right?
[10:57] <martyn_> silvram: all am trying to do is to know how to get to my home dir. form the command line . i can install ok from there just dont know how to direct it there i.e is i " cd home/martyn/
[10:57] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: I suggest yo u start with the Ubuntu nvidia drivers, get that working first then brave the install from nvidia.com
[10:57] <zezu> ok i'll try thanks
[10:57] <silvaran> martyn_: "cd" by itself will take you home.
[10:57] <zezu> but is that line ok ?
[10:57] <cas> zezu: then add it with pico/vim/nano or whatever
[10:57] <silvaran> martyn_: Then "pwd" to show where you are (Print Working Directory)
[10:57] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, yes
[10:57] <IceTox> Is it possible to run XPDE at Ubuntu? Anyone tried that before?
[10:57] <sailor> Falstius, it seems that when I boot in multi-user (as normal) but startx manually, it works
[10:57] <zezu> 127.0.0.1 faerun faerun   or  127.0.0.1 faerun localhost ?
[10:57] <cas> 127.0.0.1 localhost faerun
[10:58] <zezu> ok
[10:58] <zezu> thx, brb
[10:58] <Falstius> sailor, that's good to know.  Have you tried starting gdm manually?
[10:58] <sailor> Falstius, I'm gonna reboot again with it automatically starting gdm
[10:58] <martyn_> silvram: i have place them in my folder called home folder called martyn so waould that be cd /home/martyn
[10:58] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: the packages you want are linux-restricted-modules, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-settings
[10:58] <Falstius> sailor, I would try starting gdm manually first
[10:58] <sailor> Falstius, I booted it with the chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm and then ran startx from the terminal when it booted
[10:59] <sailor> Falstius, was that what you meant?
[10:59] <silvaran> martyn_: If you downloaded it directly from nvidia's site, "find ~/ -iname '*nvidia*'" will find the actual path to the .bin
[10:59] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, guess im gonna have to read wiki on binding keys... i forgot how to do it.. i learned how to make it so all iha ve to type is acs instaed of "apt-cache search" :)
[10:59] <Falstius> sailor, gdm is the graphical login package.  If you start it with /etc/init.d/gdm start it should come up just as if you booted with it on.
[10:59] <suryam> breezy 'server' install has so many things broken... i guess all the focus is given to making 'desktop' install very nice :*-(
[10:59] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: then you want to change "Driver" under that Section "Device" section to "nv" and change BusID to point at your nvidia card
[10:59] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, what is xgl?
[10:59] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you should see xgl
[10:59] <sailor> Falstius, OK
[10:59] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, it's a gnome setting.. i used KDE
[11:00] <ramza3> anything like winscp for unbuntu?
[11:00] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, its the best desktop bling ever
[11:00] <silvaran> suryam: I've never had any problems... I usually just do a server install and can later do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[11:00] <p01n7> It would be just as good to add an icon to the panel or desktop
[11:00] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, its not to easy to install yet, but its very good
[11:00] <silvaran> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about xgl and how awesome it is.
[11:00] <silvaran> Awww...
[11:00] <silvaran> !xgl
[11:00] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:00] <suryam> silvaran: are you able to switch between virtual terminals with ctr-alt-F1..6 ?
[11:00] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: and if you get into trouble and X won't start, edit xorg.conf from the command line (sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and change "nv" to "vga"
[11:00] <ssam> silvaran, thanks
[11:01] <paxmaster> I have a removable dvd drive (laptop), now i try put it back it's not detecting it,
[11:01] <dos000_> howdy
[11:01] <silvaran> suryam: Yup ...
[11:01] <paxmaster> how should I detect it
[11:01] <silvaran> suryam: Although when you're in the console it's usually just Alt+F?
[11:01] <dos000_> i just installed matchbox .. how do i switch my windowmanager to it ?
[11:01] <suryam> silvaran: i guess ubuntu-desktop package has all the magic then. i'll install it
[11:01] <suryam> silvaran: correct
[11:01] <b33r> how can I make unbuntu see my fat32 partition?
[11:01] <ssam> paxmaster, i think there is some info in man hdparm
[11:01] <SGershon> Hi All!
[11:02] <silvaran> suryam: It'll pull down a LOT of stuff as well, pretty much the whole default install, which kind of defeats the purpose of doing 'server' in the first place (I used it to update dapper before I had a dapper flight cd)
[11:02] <ssam> dos000_, log out and it shoulf be in the session menu
[11:02] <p01n7> mount -t vfat /dev/devicname /dir/to/.place/you/want/to/mount/it/to
[11:02] <OmegaAlpha> coolness i got some reading to do.. what else is new
[11:02] <p01n7> :P
[11:02] <dos000_> ssam, i dont see it in the session menu
[11:02] <SGershon> "Unable to get exclusive lock", but it seems to be no "locking" application open... How can I detect the "blocking" application?
[11:02] <sailor> Falstius, when I run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, it tells me command not found
[11:02] <suryam> silvaran: yeah... but i can't get a working system (can't switch between VTs!!) without that bloat i guess
[11:02] <thesilentkiller> i am looking for a good calendar server that i can run on ubuntu.....it shud run on some standard (like ical) so that outlook users can use the server too.....any suggestions?
[11:03] <ssam> dos000_, hmm, could be a bit trickier, have you tried searching th wiki and forum?
[11:03] <gatpandoa> i found nvidia in synaptic via search now what
[11:03] <silvaran> SGershon: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:03] <silvaran> suryam: That's weird... the vts should be taken care of by init, I can't see ubuntu-desktop making any difference.
[11:03] <kvarntun> anyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?
[11:03] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: scoll up ;)
[11:03] <silvaran> gatpandoa: Are you following the nvidia wiki?
[11:03] <gatpandoa> no
[11:03] <dos000_> ssam, i tried all over .. no one seems to document it . i even tried update-alternatives --config x-windowmanager
[11:03] <gatpandoa> wheres the nvidia wiki
[11:03] <silvaran> ubotu: tell gatpandoa about nvidia
[11:04] <Falstius> sailor, did you "chmod +x gdm" first?
[11:04] <thegladiator> so guys
[11:05] <Xanadu> so thegladiator
[11:05] <thegladiator> yes
[11:05] <ohgone> bbl
[11:05] <kvarntun> anyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?
[11:05] <paxmaster> there is no device node in /dev/
[11:05] <oklinux> did any one try wine in ubuntu ?
[11:05] <thegladiator> yeah
[11:05] <thegladiator> i have wine installed
[11:05] <sailor> Falstius, that was it... and it boots just fine
[11:05] <LinuxJones> So we will see Gnome 2.14 in Dapper tomorrow ?
[11:05] <Xanadu> oklinux: yeah running Photoshop just fine
[11:05] <selinium> silvaran, Cheers for the pointer. Have you used lftp? It has one of the biggest man pages I have seen in a while!
[11:05] <suryam> silvaran: hmm.. let me clarify: i do a server install, then i install xserver-xorg and xterm, then i run 'xinit `which xterm`'... at this point i cannot switch to the other VTs!
[11:05] <andrewPCT> i was upgraded to gnome 2.14 today
[11:05] <oklinux> so did it work ok really Xanadu
[11:06] <Xanadu> yeah works fine
[11:06] <sailor> Falstius, OK, now, I think I'll re-enable gdm on boot and try that... dunno whats going on
[11:06] <oklinux> what about IE
[11:06] <dos000_> ssam, any ideas ?
[11:06] <Xanadu> some stuff better than others
[11:06] <silvaran> suryam: Ohhh, mixing X into the bunch... never tried that... I went straight to dapper's ubuntu-desktop.
[11:06] <Falstius> sailor, go for it
[11:06] <thesilentkiller> can anyone suggest a good calendar server? typical clients in use are mozilla thunderbird and ms outlook
[11:06] <Xanadu> oklinux I even got google earth kinda working
[11:06] <thegladiator> Xanadu, why not gimp ?
[11:06] <LinuxJones> andrewPCT: but it's not released till tomorrow
[11:06] <suryam> silvaran: yeah... it looks like ubuntu-desktop has some xorg magic inside it
[11:06] <andrewPCT> ok
[11:06] <jwilliams> Hi all.  Has anyone tried to smoketest GNOME 2.14 on Breezy?  I get lots of "internal compiler error"s when compiling!
[11:06] <silvaran> selinium: I know a bit about lftp... it has tab and command completion, the only thing that pisses me off is the delayed connect (it doesn't actually connect until you type a command like ls and stuff).
[11:06] <Xanadu> thegladiator: I usually use gimp but photoshop good for some stuff, like animating gifs
[11:06] <thegladiator> isnt it as good as photoshpop ? ofcourse adbobe is a good company
[11:06] <thegladiator> ah
[11:07] <silvaran> suryam: It might have all the hardware detection utils necessary for automatic X setup as well.
[11:07] <selinium> silvaran, I just want to copy a file from one server to another....
[11:07] <EdLin> thesilentkiller, Ximian Connector (now from Novell) or some-such is one.
[11:07] <Xanadu> thegladiator: freedom to choose is what they mean by "linux is free" - perfect cause now I can choose the best tool for the job every time ;)
[11:07] <ohgone> selinium: scp it
[11:07] <ssam> dos000_, i am having a look
[11:07] <zF> Anyone have an Azureus 2.4.0.0 deb?
[11:07] <zF> Or should I just install the old version :[
[11:07] <thegladiator> :-)
[11:07] <silvaran> selinium: lftp will do it.  lftp user:password@hostname
[11:07] <suryam> silvaran: hmm.. i haven't had any hardware problems. i can run X just fine... only switching VTs doesn't work
[11:07] <dos000_> ssam, i am on breezy btw
[11:07] <sailor> Falstius, OK, it worked just fine
[11:07] <wastrel> ok i'm annoyed.  why is my wireless connection associtating with a random neighbor's AP, rather than mine (which is configured in /etc/network/interfaces)
[11:07] <selinium> ohgone, I only have ftp access to one server
[11:07] <silvaran> selinium: Then "put /path/to/local/file" or "get /path/to/remote/file"
[11:08] <ohgone> selinium: oh, well then
[11:08] <silvaran> suryam: Yah that's really weird...
[11:08] <sailor> Falstius, I have no idea why... but it concerns me that it's going to start doing it again
[11:08] <selinium> silvaran, cool!
[11:08] <silvaran> selinium: Of course, remote machine must have an FTP server running :)
[11:08] <thesilentkiller> EdLin: hmm ok.....thanks..i will have a look at it
[11:08] <cas> zF: you can also download azureus and run it in your home instead of installing it
[11:08] <zF> cas, I have the 2.4.0.0 tar.bz2, how do I run it?
[11:09] <selinium> silvaran, CHeers, It is my remote FTP backup server. I only have ftp access so it had better be working! :)
[11:09] <silvaran> Heh yah..
[11:09] <LogicalDash> Hi everyone, I've set up my Ubuntu to use my wireless network, but it takes a really long time at startup when it tries to establish network connections. I don't think I really need that step since all it does is synchronize the clock, is there any way to turn it off?
[11:09] <cas> zF: extract it and just execute the azurues
[11:09] <zF> execute the .jar?
[11:09] <cas> zF: but be sure you have java installed, the sun version
[11:09] <suryam> silvaran: argh... there has to be a better way... all this bloat is hurting me: gnome, evolution, metacity... *cringes*
[11:09] <zF> syntax is jar Azureus.jar?
[11:09] <ssam> dos000_, ok i think i have an answer
[11:10] <suryam> zF: java -jar the-jar-file
[11:10] <Falstius> sailor ... maybe.  Atleast now you have an idea on how to start fixing it if it comes back.
[11:10] <silvaran> suryam: After you're done, if you're picky, you can always remove ubuntu-desktop, then manually go through and remove the packages you don't want.  Synaptic does a nice job of warning you about other packages that might get hit in the anti-bloat crossfire :)
[11:10] <cas> zF: no, just `azureus` will do
[11:10] <ssam> dos000_, are you happy editing text files
[11:10] <servjew> hello. i have ubuntu installed on my PC and i have a video capture card. an ATI MSI theater 550 pro. its not being detected
[11:10] <dos000_> ssam, sure
[11:10] <ssam> dos000_, ok there is a folder /usr/share/xsessions
[11:10] <suryam> silvaran: true. thx for listening to my troubles :-)
[11:11] <Vann> Whenever i boot under ubuntu, I have no internet connection and it is "Unreachable" when I try to ping the router.  Any ideas how I fix that, it just started for no reason.
[11:11] <silvaran> suryam: Heh, not a problem... it's helpful to me, I'm interested in running ubunto on a server machine without a lot of heft in it... not being able to switch VTs would be nasty.
[11:11] <sailor> Falstius, yeah... I wonder what made it do it though...
[11:11] <MdSalih> anyone know of a mirror for ubuntu 6.04 dapper ?
[11:11] <allievo> Greetings, I'm installing Ubuntu and have already gotten myself into trouble. The installation asked me for my name, which contains "" (Nicely transformed into <E9>). The problem is that it will not accept this character, and I cannot remove it either.
[11:11] <dos000_> ssam, thats a dir with only gnome.desktop in it
[11:11] <wastrel> Vann:  wireless, dialup or ethernet?
[11:11] <zF> cas: I can't seem to get it to work.
[11:11] <Vann> wastrel, ethernet
[11:11] <allievo> Does anyone know of a way to remove it, or another work around, so that I won't have to restart the installation?
[11:11] <ssam> dos000_, and you need to make a matchbox.desktop file
[11:11] <zF> what's the syntax I run after I extract it?
[11:11] <Xanadu> Vaan: does pinging IP addresses work (as opposed to domain names?)
[11:11] <silvaran> MdSalih: Might want to check #ubuntu+1 -- mention whether you need a mirror for cd iso or repos
[11:12] <zF> I ran jar -jar Azureus2.jar and it gave me the proper syntax usage. :/
[11:12] <Falstius> sailor, did you do a dpkg-reconfigure ?
[11:12] <wastrel> Vann:  your system->administration->networking  all configured properly?
[11:12] <Vann> Xanadu, pinging 192.168.1.1 results in "Network Unreachable."
[11:12] <ssam> !pastebin
[11:12] <Vann> wastrel, not sure, but it was the last time i booted :/
[11:12] <silvaran> zF: java -jar, not jar -jar
[11:12] <yuri_> hi! anyone know of a gui for apache2?
[11:13] <silvaran> yuri_: Firefox
[11:13] <Xanadu> Vaan: try "ifconfig eth0" in your console and make sure you're on the right subnet (and that eth0 is there of course)
[11:13] <dos000_> ssam, lemme try
[11:13] <cas> allievo: reboot and select the "recovery mode", then do adduser to make a new user
[11:13] <silvaran> yuri_: Sorry, that was assholish .. what do you mean?
[11:13] <OmegaAlpha> !xgl
[11:13] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:13] <Vann> Xanadu, I did that and it was.
[11:13] <sailor> Falstius, no
[11:13] <allievo> Has no one in here ever give the installation a special character as mentioned above? I really don't want to start over with the installation
[11:13] <kage> what is the repo that has the package w32 codecs?
[11:13] <allievo> given*
[11:13] <ssam> dos000_, and put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10243 in it
[11:13] <Xanadu> Vaan: you using dhcp?
[11:13] <yuri_> I want use apache2 to run a server, but what i found in synaptic is all commandline. I'd like a gui
[11:13] <Vann> Xanadu, yeh
[11:13] <cas> allievo: you could use deluser to delete the user but because you have weird characters you prolly need to edit your /etc/passwd and /etc/groups manually
[11:14] <Paper> hi, anyone here is familiar with vmware ?
[11:14] <silvaran> yuri_: A GUI would really only be useful for configuration... apache just serves web pages based on static, or modules and other plugins... the magic is in the config file.
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, is xgl for breezy?
[11:14] <allievo> cas: Um, well I'm in the installation process as I said, and I can't really access any files at the moment :/
[11:14] <silvaran> Paper: A little bit.
[11:14] <Spec> i'm fairly familiar with vmware, Paper
[11:14] <Xanadu> Vaan: I *think* sudo dhclient should refresh your DHCP stuff
[11:14] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, i think you need dapper
[11:14] <Spec> Paper: but not with running vmware workstation on linux
[11:14] <cas> OmegaAlpha: no only for dapper, you need x 7.0.0 for it
[11:14] <wastrel> sudo dhclient eth0
[11:14] <Paper> Ok cause im trying to add a physical drive to a vritual machine but i only get errors
[11:14] <Vann> Xanadu, alright, I'll try that when I reboot into ubuntu, thanks
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> oh i thought so
[11:14] <Vann> mm'
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> oh well no xgl for me till april 20th
[11:14] <silvaran> Paper: What kind of errors?
[11:14] <yuri_> i see,,, What's the easiest program to host a small server?
[11:15] <Paper> wait
[11:15] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, if you just want to try it out there is an xgl live cd
[11:15] <yuri_> ive used analogx simpleserver back in win
[11:15] <trent> I was wondering why limewire or mercury messenger does not recognise my installed jre.
[11:15] <kage> anyone know the pakage for all the codecs?
[11:15] <kage> package*
[11:15] <dos000_> ssam, not matchbox-ession in the executable ?
[11:15] <cas> allievo: where are you now, still in the installation?
[11:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell kage about multimedia
[11:15] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, nah im running low on cdr to burn it
[11:15] <Xanadu> Vaan: also check your subnet mask - make sure it's 255.255.255.0
[11:15] <ssam> dos000_, possibly, i am not 100% sure
[11:15] <Paper> Silvaran: The specified device is not a valid physical device
[11:16] <Vann> Xanadu, how do i change it in case it isn't?
[11:16] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, its no biggie really i was just looking for somethign cool to play around with on ubuntu.. like 3ddesktop
[11:16] <Xanadu> Vaan: or could be a prob with the router's config of course
[11:16] <trent> I installed the latest jre.
[11:16] <silvaran> Paper: What /dev/ are you specifying for it?
[11:16] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, do you know VNC stuff?
[11:16] <ssam> dos000_, i based it off the openbox one
[11:16] <Paper> Silvaran: /dev/hdb1/
[11:16] <dos000_> ssam, ois there a way i can switch to it whithout loging out ?
[11:16] <sailor> Falstius, thanks for the help, I gotta run
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell kage about restricted
[11:16] <allievo> cas: Um, the strangest thing just happened. This was about the fifth time I tried to create the account with the special character, and now it worked :O
[11:16] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, no sorry
[11:16] <EdLin> trent, did you install it with java-package?
[11:16] <suryam> !acpi
[11:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, suryam
[11:16] <suryam> what is acpi?
[11:16] <ssam> dos000_, maybe matchbox --replace
[11:16] <Xanadu> Vaan: you can set your IP address manually with sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 255.255.255.0
[11:16] <silvaran> Paper: Don't use the trailing slash ... if that's not it, make sure you can access the device through a command prompt like "sudo file /dev/hdb1" without errors
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell suryam about bootoptions
[11:16] <trent> EdLin, Java-package... I don't think so.  I downloaded it off the java website.
[11:17] <Paper> Silvaran: ok wait
[11:17] <Xanadu> Vaan: if it's DHCP then the server gives you your IP address and mask (and DNS servers usually too)
[11:17] <allievo> cas: But when I have gotten into the Ubuntu environment, how can I change the full name of my user?
[11:17] <OmegaAlpha> damn. anyone know about VNC?
[11:17] <zF> is there anyway I can "azurues" form the command line and have the terminal window exit after the program has been started?
[11:17] <cas> allievo: hehe, well be glad it works, I never used anything but ascii chars for usernames so I can't tell if you get problems with it
[11:17] <zF> So I don't have two windows open.
[11:17] <trent> EdLin, Should I install java-package from apt instead?
[11:17] <EdLin> trent, first you download it, then use java-package. The procedure is on the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki
[11:17] <Xanadu> Vaan: just make sure there's no other machine on .20 of course ;)
[11:17] <Vann> Xanadu, yup, i know how it works, just not the commands in ubunut :/
[11:17] <allievo> cas: It's not my username, it's my "full name", so there shouldn't be a problem I guess? :/
[11:17] <Hobbs`> holy shit /names was a bad idea :
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: /dev/hdb1: block special (3/65) | i get that on console when i type sudo file /dev/hdb1
[11:18] <Xanadu> Vaan: you can also check route -r which shows your default gateway etc
[11:18] <metalhedd> zF: why don't you just start it from a run dialog or the menu?'
[11:18] <ompaul> Hobbs`, mind the language please :)
[11:18] <silvaran> Paper: Was it the trailing slash causing the problem?  Or was that just a chat typo?
[11:18] <Hobbs`> k
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: and i still get an error without the trailing slash
[11:18] <Hobbs`> srry
[11:18] <cas> allievo: change it in your /etc/passwd
[11:18] <silvaran> Paper: Are you doing this within the running VM, or in vmware's settings on the host machine?
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: Invalid Argument without the slash
[11:18] <allievo> cas: ok, thank you for your help! :)
[11:19] <cas> allievo: and reboot after you done it to be sure, your welcome
[11:19] <Paper> in vmware, the settings of the host machine
[11:19] <silvaran> Paper: Where exactly are you specifying /dev/hdb1?
[11:19] <silvaran> Right... and you have a partitioned IDE drive with at least one partition on primary slave active in that machine?
[11:19] <Paper> silvaran: you can add a device, i chose hdd and physical
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: yes it's all partitioned
[11:20] <clem_yeats> is it ok to use snapshot ? I mean is it stable enough for everyday desktop use ?
[11:20] <silvaran> Paper: Yeah I see it in the settings... so in the host machine it's visible as hdb1?
[11:20] <blekos> i dont know how this has happen, but the buttons in open office(eg writer) are not visible, while in kde they are (in gnome they act like having the hover effect=they bcome visible when u pass the mouse pointer over them)
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: yes in /dev/hdb1
[11:20] <blekos> any ideas? can i change the theme somewhow?
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: and when i use sudo fdisk -l
[11:21] <shiv> I have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...
[11:21] <gatpandoa> the nvidia wiki sucks
[11:21] <Paper> silvaran: ive been able to mount it without any problems...
[11:21] <PierPP> %s/wiki//g
[11:21] <Paper> silvaran: in my host machine
[11:21] <silvaran> Paper: Is it unmounted, and accessible to vmware when you try to add it?
[11:22] <gazanfer> hello. i have 2 windows and 1 ubuntu boxes in this network. all of the computers can see and identify each other, except this one and and one of windows box. i didnt have this issue until i reinstalled ubuntu as server. can anyone help me?
[11:22] <gatpandoa> so apparently accroding to synaptic i have both legacy and non legacy nvidi drivers
[11:22] <gatpandoa> now what xanadu?
[11:22] <Paper> silvaran: its mounted in my current host machine as /media/storage/
[11:22] <silvaran> Paper: You need to unmount it
[11:22] <Jemt> Does the Ubuntu kernel has unionfs and squashfs modules included?
[11:22] <metalhedd> gazanfer, install samba?
[11:22] <shiv> I have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...
[11:22] <Paper> silvaran: ok
[11:23] <suryam> silvaran: there's a package x-window-system-core... which ubuntu-desktop installs.  that might have the VT switching magic
[11:23] <metalhedd> shiv, chmod +x install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh
[11:23] <gazanfer> metalhedd, in fact, samba is installed in my opinion, because it is already identified as smb network or smthg like that
[11:23] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay where are you in this process? you changed your xorg.conf file yet?
[11:23] <metalhedd> shiv then ./install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh
[11:23] <silvaran> suryam: We're talking about the Alt-F1 to Alt-F6 stuff right? ... still sounds weird... all that stuff should be handled by init and agetty or whatever...
[11:23] <gatpandoa> no i havent yet changed that
[11:23] <silvaran> suryam: And Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go from X to console.
[11:23] <suryam> silvaran: we're talking switching to any VT from an X session.
[11:24] <Xanadu> okay type the following in a console:
[11:24] <silvaran> suryam: Yah... maybe it's an xorg.conf setting ... it's possible to disable it from within there...
[11:24] <Xanadu> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[11:24] <Xanadu> copy and paste into pastebin
[11:24] <metalhedd> gazanfer, so what exactly is the problem if it can see the smb network?
[11:24] <IGUESSIWASPUNKON> can i install ubuntu with the 2.4 kernel instead of the 2.6?
[11:24] <ozzie> hey guys
[11:24] <gatpandoa> what changes to i perform to it?
[11:25] <suryam> silvaran: that didn't work.. i have the following inside Section "ServerFlags": Option  "DontVTSwitch"  "no"
[11:25] <Seveas> IGUESSIWASPUNKON, no.
[11:25] <ozzie> how do i kill X server in the command line so i can install nvida drivers
[11:25] <Paper> silvaran: ok it works when unmounted, but is there a way for it to be mounted at the same time ??
[11:25] <gazanfer> metalhedd, i can only see one box in network, but cant see the other one.
[11:25] <IGUESSIWASPUNKON> Seveas, ok, thanks :)
[11:25] <cas> ozzie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:25] <shiv> metalhedd: thanks a lot
[11:25] <silvaran> suryam: That sucks... and you have ubuntu-desktop installed and it STILL doesn't do that crap for you?  What if you start X with startx or gdm/kdm?
[11:25] <silvaran> suryam: Or xdm for that matter?
[11:25] <Xanadu> you'll be changing your BusID to something else, and you'll be changing "Driver" from i810 to "nvidia"
[11:25] <silvaran> Paper: NO, it is VERY DANGEROUS to do this.
[11:26] <suryam> silvaran: haven't installed ubuntu-desktop yet. i'm gonna try and see if the x-window-system-core does the magic
[11:26] <wastrel> "bah"
[11:26] <metalhedd> gazanfer, no idea then, sorry
[11:26] <Xanadu> The BusID depends on what you find in the lspci command
[11:26] <gazanfer> metalhedd, thx anyway
[11:26] <silvaran> Paper: If you want vmware to access it at the same time, it might be best to set it up as a windows share using samba, or if both host/guest are linux-based, NFS.
[11:26] <narg> cas: Woot, I got it all working. Thanks :)
[11:26] <gatpandoa> how do i find out my nvidia bus
[11:26] <wastrel> x-window-system-core is fine but you'll want a windowmanager
[11:26] <suryam> silvaran: i have xdm installed, but it doesn't show up once the boot sequence has finished
[11:26] <Xanadu> copy the output of that lspci command to pastebin and I'll look at it
[11:26] <Paper> silvaran: no my host is linux ubuntu and guest is win98
[11:26] <suryam> wastrel: xterm's all i need ;-P
[11:27] <cas> narg: hehe good to hear :)
[11:27] <Paper> silvaran: ill try using samba
[11:27] <silvaran> Paper: Best bet is to share it through samba.
[11:27] <Paper> silvaran: k thanks
[11:27] <suryam> here i go
[11:27] <Xanadu> at a guess it's probably PCI:1:0:0 or PCI:2:0:0
[11:28] <tjb891> ok, mabey im stupid but which color plug on my soundcard dot he speakers go in (my in the green one and it has a very faint sound)
[11:28] <gatpandoa> any way i can find out exactly?
[11:28] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: YES! Paste!
[11:28] <Makura> Can someone help me?  My programs randomly close all the time.
[11:29] <gatpandoa> Xanadu paste what?
[11:29] <ompaul> Makura, what version are you using?
[11:29] <Xanadu> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[11:29] <Makura> ompaul: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy
[11:29] <trent> EdLin, In the part where it says about if you get the "no matching plugin" and you use the second backup command and I still get the same error what should I do? this function "DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"
[11:29] <gatpandoa>  nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440 ]  (rev a3)
[11:29] <gatpandoa>  doesnt tell me bus
[11:29] <ompaul> Makura, what wm are you using?
[11:30] <Makura> ompaul: wm?  (Linux newbie)
[11:30] <ompaul> Makura, gnome / kde?
[11:30] <Xanadu> check the last line - there should be a number before it
[11:30] <suryam> Makura: window manager
[11:30] <Makura> ompaul: gnome
[11:30] <gatpandoa> 000:01:04.0 vga compatible
[11:31] <ompaul> Makura, is it any particular app or set off apps?
[11:31] <gatpandoa> thats al it says xanadu
[11:31] <Makura> ompaul: Games, Firefox, Gaim, everything.
[11:31] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: yeah that's the one
[11:31] <gatpandoa> lol so whats my bus
[11:32] <Amish> why not connect then type ls so it connects
[11:32] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: I *think* it should be 1:4:0
[11:32] <Amish> Woops
[11:32] <Amish> wrong window
[11:32] <Matt___> hey guys
[11:32] <ompaul> Makura, that is very strange, I suggest you do this, reboot the box, as it starts to boot, press escape when the 2 seconds for grub come up, choose memtest and leave the machine there to see if it detects faulty ram
[11:32] <Matt___> i am having the biggest problem
[11:32] <Xanadu> okay gatpandoa First you need to know what to do if it doesn't work
[11:33] <Matt___> i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd
[11:33] <Xanadu> cause you won't have X
[11:33] <gatpandoa> i wrote it down
[11:33] <Matt___> and now grub is giving me error 21
[11:33] <Makura> ompaul: I've done that before.  There's nothing wrong with my hardware.
[11:33] <Matt___> i can even boot into windows....
[11:33] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay so you'll be able to edit your xorg.conf and set it back to what it was?
[11:33] <Makura> ompaul: I left it running for a couple of hours.
[11:33] <Matt___> I really Need Help!
[11:33] <gatpandoa> sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf change nv to vga
[11:33] <wastrel> Makura:  maybe you're running out of drivespace
[11:34] <Makura> wastrel: I have 150 gigs free
[11:34] <Blippe> where is the READMDebian apt-build wants you to read?
[11:34] <wastrel> on the linux partition?
[11:34] <martyn_> i am having troble installing nvida driver via comand line i hit ctrl-alt+F1 to get in to comnad line then run the nvida install file but it wont let me install because the x sever is still running any ideas ?
[11:34] <gatpandoa> its not allowing paste in xcon
[11:34] <Matt___> i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd
[11:34] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: even better: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[11:34] <Matt___> and now grub is giving me error 21
[11:34] <Xanadu> do that now
[11:34] <Makura> wastrel: This only runs on linux
[11:34] <suryam> martyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:34] <ompaul> Makura, do this >>df -h<< and put the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <gatpandoa> i think i have conf.bak
[11:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa then if it doesn't work: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <martyn_> suryam: i tried that just says no cammand
[11:35] <vince_> hello
[11:35] <ompaul> !ask
[11:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa so you're making a backup of xorg.conf that you can just easily restore from the command line
[11:35] <wastrel> bot's down it seems :] 
[11:35] <Matt___> man
[11:35] <BSDinux> matt, maybe reinstalling grub helps?
[11:35] <suryam> martyn_: do: ls /etc/init.d/*dm
[11:35] <Matt___> how?
[11:35] <BSDinux> get a live cd
[11:35] <Matt___> and....
[11:35] <BSDinux> boot with the live cd and reinstall grub
[11:36] <BSDinux> i think it's grub-install
[11:36] <Matt___> ok booted
[11:36] <vince_> sorry i've got problems to install mixxx
[11:36] <Makura> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10244
[11:36] <martyn_> suryam: ok do u think that will kill the x server
[11:36] <gatpandoa> got it
[11:36] <gatpandoa> now what do edit
[11:36] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: AFTER you've backed up xorg.conf, open it with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <suryam> martyn_: yes. then u can install nvidia. and finally u start X again
[11:36] <Xanadu> Go down to that Section "Device" bit
[11:37] <Matt___> will i have to config anything?
[11:37] <martyn_> suryam: cheers be back in a mo if it does not lol
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, did you use some software to "improve" your install?
[11:37] <Makura> ompaul: Huh?
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, well you have lots of room :)
[11:37] <BSDinux> matt, you only need to define where grub should be installed... ie the harddisk where it should be.
[11:37] <Xanadu> change "i810" to "vga" (we'll change it to nvidia later - let's just make sure we're accessing the right bus first ;))
[11:37] <BSDinux> for example grub-install /dev/hda
[11:37] <Makura> ompaul: I also have something in the terminal from a game crash that happened
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, paste the result of this >>free<<
[11:37] <Matt___> hmm, well i have 2 hdds
[11:37] <Matt___> one with win and one with ubuntu
[11:37] <Xanadu> change PCI:0:1:0 to whatever I said above
[11:38] <Matt___> i tryed installing ubuntu on one
[11:38] <ompaul> Makura, paste any text info there
[11:38] <Matt___> and so i used grub as my boot loader
[11:38] <Makura> ompaul: Here's what you told me to do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10245
[11:38] <gatpandoa> what do i put in driver part
[11:38] <soop> anyone here running wine?
[11:38] <Matt___> now it isn't working, just giving me error 21
[11:38] <gatpandoa> under Device what should i out in as Driver?
[11:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: "vga" (for now - we'll change it again later if it works)
[11:39] <BSDinux> try a "grub-install /dev/hda" (in case you have ide-harddisks)
[11:39] <gatpandoa> as bus xanadu
[11:39] <Makura> ompaul: Here's the other info - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10246
[11:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: Driver "vga"
[11:39] <gatpandoa> and bus xanadu?
[11:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: BusID "1:4:0"
[11:39] <Matt___> BSDinux, will that effect anything if my ubunut drive is slave>
[11:39] <kage> how do I mount my windows partition and give my user account ownership?
[11:40] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: now save it and close gedit
[11:40] <wastrel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:40] <allievo> I was told that I could change my full name in "/etc/passwd" which seems impossible, could anyone please tell me where to do this?
[11:40] <Chodder> chuckyp, you still around? If so I need that tap option for X again, I forgot it :/
[11:40] <kage> thanks
[11:40] <BSDinux> i don't think so. grub should recognize ubuntu and win... if not you can later change it in the menu.lst in /boot/grub
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you're going to be on your own a bit while you restart X so touch wood, cross fingers and whatever else you do for luck
[11:41] <ompaul> Makura, >> ps auwx | grep jamp.exe | grep -v grep <<
[11:41] <wastrel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:41] <gatpandoa> lol
[11:41] <gatpandoa> thanks buddy
[11:41] <Makura> ompaul: all in one line
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: close everything (including XChat) and then hit "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[11:41] <ompaul> Makura, you bettcha
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: if it works we'll see you here again soon
[11:41] <gatpandoa> i dont fel and sound like a newbie no more even though ive only had the o/s installed 3 days ago
[11:41] <soundray> allievo: what's the problem when you try to edit /etc/passwd?
[11:41] <Makura> ompaul: What was it supposed to do?  There was no output in the terminal.
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: if not sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:42] <gatpandoa> k xan
[11:42] <wastrel> what's jamp.exe?
[11:42] <Xanadu> and then "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo gdm"
[11:42] <ompaul> Makura, that is okay, it was going to or not produce output
[11:42] <martyn_> i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas
[11:42] <BSDinux> sounds like a win executable
[11:42] <Makura> ompaul: Okay
[11:42] <Xanadu> gatpandoa or just restart
[11:42] <ompaul> wastrel, some wine based game he appears to run
[11:42] <Matt___> BSDinux: this is what i get "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[11:42] <gatpandoa> l8r
[11:42] <ompaul> Makura, >> ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep <<
[11:42] <Makura> ompaul: And for gaim, for a while it was crashing when I tried to send a message or let IRC connect >_<  For Firefox, if I tried to download or save as it crashed.
[11:43] <Makura> ompaul: Done.
[11:43] <kage> how do I give ownership of a certain directory to a user?
[11:43] <_jason> kage: chown
[11:43] <ompaul> Makura, any output?
[11:43] <ompaul> Makura, pastebin please
[11:43] <Matt___> yeah so it won't let me install grub
[11:43] <wastrel> don't use chown unless you know what you're doing.
[11:43] <martyn_> i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas
[11:43] <Makura> ompaul: No output.
[11:43] <BSDinux> what kind of hds are you using? serial or parallel?
[11:44] <_jason> martyn_: try /etc not /ect
[11:44] <soundray> wastrel, the same applies to scalpels ;)
[11:44] <martyn_> lol
[11:44] <Matt___> hmmm
[11:44] <Matt___> ide
[11:44] <MisterN> n8
[11:44] <Matt___> so parallel
[11:44] <martyn_> _jason: thx that mite help ;p
[11:44] <BSDinux> k
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: Did you mean for the last command you gave me?
[11:45] <metalhedd> martyn_, it might... it will tell you the location of the script that starts the gui login manager. but it wont kill X
[11:45] <ompaul> Makura, you can't if you have no output :)
[11:45] <rnd_null> i am about to install Ubuntu linux, i'm very new to linux, someone suggested ubuntu to me.  i run an athlon 64, is there any reason that i should not install the 64bit version and just install the 32bit version?
[11:45] <suryam> martyn_: that LS was for you to find which dm your system was using
[11:45] <Matt___> rnd_null
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: I was just wondering what output you wanted
[11:45] <Matt___> dont install 64bit
[11:45] <ompaul> Makura, have you installed any program not using "synaptic package manager"
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: Obviously for ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep there was none though
[11:45] <rnd_null> why not?
[11:45] <richard_> how can i see php code in my computer?
[11:46] <suryam> oh well
[11:46] <Makura> ompaul: Yeah. =\
[11:46] <Xanadu> richard_: open the file
[11:46] <Matt___> unless you know that all your hardware is 64bit compadible
[11:46] <metalhedd> richard_, open a php file with a text editor ?
[11:46] <soundray> rnd_null: amd64 works great for me, except that some applications are only available for 32bit. Notably Macromedia Flash plugin for Firefox.
[11:46] <ompaul> Makura, what did you use? (gulp)
[11:46] <Makura> ompaul: Terminal
[11:46] <rnd_null> i see, that why dsl and mepis dont work then...
[11:46] <rnd_null> thank you
[11:46] <Matt___> rnd_null: just stick with 32bit
[11:46] <jadaz87> hello everyone
[11:46] <rnd_null> yep
[11:46] <rnd_null> thats what it's gonna be
[11:47] <rnd_null> : )
[11:47] <Matt___> BDSinux: anyidea?
[11:47] <richard_> Xanadu: now i want to see the page in my computer? i use apache but i don't know where can i put it
[11:47] <ompaul> Makura, what did you use in the terminal? for instance did you use non .deb packages
[11:47] <Xanadu> richard_: /var/www/somedirectory
[11:47] <Makura> ompaul: compiling stuff from tar.gz
[11:47] <BSDinux> yeah wait.. i think i had to mount the ubuntu distro as root when i reinstalled grub
[11:47] <rnd_null> any tips on the ubuntu install i might like to know?
[11:47] <Xanadu> richard_: then point browser to http://localhost/somedirectory
[11:47] <metalhedd> rnd_null, its a breeeeze
[11:47] <rnd_null> thanks
[11:48] <BSDinux> just booted with the live cd, then mounted the ubuntu partition, then chrooted to ubuntu
[11:48] <Matt___> are you going to dual boot?
[11:48] <soundray> rnd_null, avoid LVM unless you have some experience with it.
[11:48] <BSDinux> i have a quad-boot... ;-)
[11:48] <metalhedd> rnd_null, ubuntu has one of the easiest installs i've used.
[11:48] <rnd_null> no, i'm going straight linux
[11:48] <Matt___> ok
[11:48] <Matt___> go for it
[11:48] <Matt___> you'll have alot of fun
[11:48] <BSDinux> ubuntu/winxp/freebsd/macosx
[11:48] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/602557  hey all can anyone tell me why after i install XGL can i NOT open up gnome?
[11:48] <BSDinux> got it up and running
[11:48] <_jason> allievo: chfn command
[11:48] <rnd_null> i'm through with microshaft, they belong in the circus, the only os that is self destructive
[11:48] <ompaul> Makura, what did you compile from tar.gz?
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: A bunch of stuff =\
[11:49] <Matt___> BSDinux: ?
[11:49] <metalhedd> rnd_null, good call, I haven't touched windows (except for at work) in 5 years
[11:49] <ompaul> Makura, I would suggest that may be where the problem lies
[11:49] <kage> i typed "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this :
[11:49] <BSDinux> i think you have to do it that way.. chroot to your ubuntu hd
[11:49] <rnd_null> thats what i would like to say 5 years from now
[11:49] <Matt___> man i am still a n00b
[11:49] <b33r> how can I install wine?
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: Ack, but what is the problem? >_<
[11:49] <kage> hold on a sec I messed up XD
[11:49] <raheel> hi
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: Did you read the other output I pasted?
[11:49] <Matt___> could you help me BSDinux?
[11:50] <ompaul> Makura, I am going to get the bot to send you a set of pages about how you should install stuff in ubuntu, I have read all you posted
[11:50] <raheel> can anyone help me work realplayer in the mozillla firefox browser
[11:50] <metalhedd> rnd_null, it takes time to figure out how to do all th things yoou used to be able to do before, but once you get it figured out you'll just have no need to boot back to windows ever.
[11:50] <jadaz87> has anyone had success with installing ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[11:50] <raheel> this is the only thing that isnt working for me
[11:50] <weedar> jadaz87, sure
[11:50] <metalhedd> jadaz87, I did once.
[11:50] <Makura> ompaul: I install stuff only if I can't get it from Synaptic, but what do you suggest I do
[11:50] <soundray> jadaz87: it *can* work.
[11:50] <BSDinux> matt, just a moment
[11:50] <b33r> can anyone tell me how 2 install wine?
[11:50] <jadaz87> weedar: i keep running into the cannot find kernel source problem
[11:50] <Matt___> sure
[11:51] <soundray> b33r: how about 'sudo apt-get install wine'?
[11:51] <weedar> jadaz87, in that case - install the kernel source =)
[11:51] <metalhedd> jadaz87, you need to install a kernel source tree. check synaptic for
[11:51] <raheel> can anyone help me with realplayer in the mozilla browser
[11:51] <raheel> pleaee
[11:51] <wastrel> Makura:  did you add univers & multivers repositories?
[11:51] <rnd_null> i tried linux back in 95 and didn't have a really good time, i just recently (last month) found out how far it's come in useability and have decided to give it a try again
[11:51] <ompaul> Makura, you see I find that hard to believe cos there are over 17000 packages in synaptic for 5.10
[11:51] <raheel> i already installed realplayer 10 on my computer
[11:51] <Random_Transit> hey, how do i uninstall old kernels?
[11:51] <Makura> wastrel: I believe I did
[11:51] <gazanfer> anybody knows which package do i need to setup samba?
[11:51] <richard_> Xanadu: Thank you... now i can see my pages... Thanks a lot
[11:51] <kage> I type in "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this message: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error
[11:51] <raheel> but i cant get to work on streaming audio
[11:51] <kage> any help?
[11:51] <Makura> ompaul: What about Hamachi?
[11:51] <ompaul> wastrel, allready there got the bot to give Makura lots
[11:51] <Xanadu> richard_: np
[11:52] <metalhedd> rnd_null, took me 3 years or so of going back and forth before I found a distro (gentoo) that taught me enough that I never needed to go back to windows again
[11:52] <Makura> ompaul: What should I do about this though?
[11:52] <jadaz87> weedar: oh ok thanks because i was afraid i whould end up not using ubuntu :-Z i am on suse 10.0 right now :-\
[11:52] <soundray> rnd_null: back then you didn't have a chance, unless you compiled your own kernel...
[11:52] <wastrel> okey dokey
[11:52] <raheel> can anyone help with realplayer
[11:52] <max> hello all, i have made dmraid work with a ubuntu instalation "from scratch" with a breezylivecd
[11:52] <Random_Transit> kage....worst case scenario...the NTFS drive's boot sector is borked
[11:52] <weedar> jadaz87, I haven't used Suse in years so I don't know how easy it is to use, but Ubuntu has so far the best distribution I've tried/used :)
[11:52] <rnd_null> i played with gentoo a little and i dont like the gentoo command line
[11:53] <soundray> kage, maybe you don't have an NTFS on hda1?
[11:53] <BSDinux> matt open a terminal and create a folder for your orignial ubuntu
[11:53] <metalhedd> rnd_null, the command line is pretty much the same in every distro
[11:53] <ompaul> Makura, okay well first off I don't know whats taking down your machine, and without it here and watching at whats going on I don't think I can find the actual culprit
[11:53] <Chodder> command lines? how does gentoo bash differ from ubuntu bash?
[11:53] <kage> it's XP so it's ntfs right?
[11:53] <Chodder> lol
[11:53] <Xanadu> raheel: never heard of anyone running realplayer in firefox under linux but you should try the mplayer firefox plugin - might just play those ra files
[11:53] <rnd_null> right, but there's just something about it...not sure what
[11:53] <BSDinux> sudo mkdir /ubuntu for example
[11:53] <rnd_null> its like uncomfortable socks
[11:53] <soundray> kage, is it on hda1 for sure?
[11:53] <max> trying to install the 2.6.15-6 kernel, its impossible to manage dmraid to work with it?
[11:53] <raheel> i have all the plugins
[11:53] <weedar> jadaz87, what you could do is try "uname -r" in console to find out which kernel version you're using and then do a search for a kernel-headers package for that version :) If you use synaptic or adept that should be easy :)
[11:53] <Makura> ompaul: Oh..
[11:53] <raheel> but they just wont work
[11:53] <metalhedd> rnd_null, I actually like it better than ubuntu's if anything.. its coloured better by default :)
[11:53] <Matt___> ok
[11:53] <kage> i'm fairly sure, I tried hda2 as well and got the same message
[11:54] <jadaz87> weedar: yes i know that is why i wanted to get ndiswrapper to work on ubuntu :-)
[11:54] <virus> I'm having some troubles logging into another Ubuntu Box via XDMCP - the GUI is far from snappy - it's not a network issue as x apps started via "ssh -X" work as expected: fast and snappy. Just XDMCP is causing this problems. I'm running Ubuntu Breezy on both boxes.
[11:54] <Matt___> BSDinux: pm me
[11:54] <Makura> ompaul: Well, can you tell me where I might learn to install windows and use a dual boot so I can just run stuff off windows?
[11:54] <ompaul> Makura, it is not something one usually sees, I don't know that program, I had a quick look at it
[11:54] <Random_Transit> kage, do you have entries for hda* in /etc/fstab?
[11:54] <Matt___> this place is getting to crowded
[11:54] <jadaz87> weedar: oh ok so just install all the kernel headers?
[11:54] <rnd_null> metalhead, is this how i make the text red?
[11:54] <kage> let me check
[11:54] <weedar> jadaz87, yes - the one that matches your kernel version
[11:54] <kage> no
[11:55] <rnd_null> metalhedd, is this red?
[11:55] <Matt___> ok i mkdir now
[11:55] <metalhedd> rnd_null, yep
[11:55] <Random_Transit> hmm..okay, so then doing a sudo mount -a won't work
[11:55] <ompaul> Makura, lots of pages there for you to read, when you are done I would consider the following if it is not native to Ubuntu then you need to be very careful about building a package
[11:55] <rnd_null> metalhedd, ok, so now it should easier
[11:55] <BSDinux> don't know how to pm.. lol. k, now mount your ubuntu harddisk.. sudo mount /dev/hdb /ubuntu
[11:55] <jadaz87> weedar: because there are a couple i think i have to install the 386 version
[11:56] <MdSalih> GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin.X L0 0br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 Error: command could not be executed! Please install the X server or correct GDM configuration and restart GDM
[11:56] <MdSalih> ANyone know what taht means :-.
[11:56] <MdSalih> and how to fix ?
[11:56] <Matt___> BSDinux: i must specify the filesystem type
[11:56] <Matt___> ext3?
[11:56] <max> Q: dmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... Getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.
[11:56] <Makura> ompaul: I didn't understand the last part you said =P
[11:56] <rnd_null> metalhedd, when i tried nix before i used slackware with xwindows
[11:56] <jadaz87> weedar: that is what the kernel messages say when i first boot up before the ubuntu splash screen comes up
[11:56] <metalhedd> rnd_null, how is the font color in your irc client going to make the command line easier? :)
[11:56] <Random_Transit> kage, do you mind if i PM you?...as Matt____ said, it's crowded here...
[11:56] <Random_Transit> anyone else who can possibly help kage is free to join in...
[11:56] <weedar> jadaz87, if you write "uname -r" in a console window, what output does that give you?
[11:56] <kage> Random Transit: no, I don't
[11:56] <kage> I don't mind
[11:56] <soundray> kage, what partition is Ubuntu root on? (First line of your "mount" output)
[11:56] <rnd_null> metalhedd, i did it so you can see me better
[11:56] <metalhedd> rnd_null,  I see I see.
[11:56] <BSDinux> hmm... is hdb your ubuntu hd?
[11:57] <kage> soundray 1sec lol
[11:57] <kage> hda3
[11:57] <metalhedd> rnd_null, It was fine before though :)
[11:57] <richard_> Xanadu: I have another question... why i can save any page in this directory? /var/www
[11:57] <Matt___> im pretty sure
[11:57] <BSDinux> ah
[11:57] <rnd_null> metalhedd, ok
[11:57] <Matt___> well it was / when i formated it
[11:57] <jadaz87> weedar: it says 2.6.12-9-386
[11:57] <BSDinux> should be hdb1
[11:57] <BSDinux> because that's the partition
[11:57] <Matt___> ok it did
[11:57] <Matt___> it mnted
[11:58] <jocke1s> hello everybody. I am trying to install Krusader 1.7 deb but I seem to be missing libqt3c102-mt ?? Any ideas how to fix that?
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> Samba trouble : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart doesnt do anything. Anyone know why that might be?
[11:58] <digital00> ri-sera
[11:58] <BSDinux> now activate it by using sudo chroot /ubuntu
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> jocke1s, might be obvious, but you can try googling for it.
[11:58] <max> dmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... --- OK compiling, but getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.
[11:58] <soundray> kage, have you got the ntfsprogs package installed?
[11:58] <Blissex> jocke1s: if you use an APT frontend that should not have happened.
[11:58] <Matt___> ok
[11:58] <Matt___> done
[11:58] <kage> I doubt it...unless it's installed by default...
[11:58] <Blissex> jocke1s: it looks like anyhow that you are installing a binary for a different version of Ubuntu than the one you have installed.
[11:59] <BSDinux> k, now you are in your original ubuntu again... try sudo grub-install /dev/hda now
[11:59] <Xanadu> richard_: er what do you mean?
[11:59] <Blissex> jocke1s: 'libqt3c102-mt' is for Hoary and before.
[11:59] <Matt___> ok
[12:00] <BSDinux> did it work?