[12:03] Tonio_: it's only 3 months old, i think it will take some time for "maturity" === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] robotgeek: doesn't work for me [12:10] robotgeek: can I paste you the output ? [12:10] robotgeek: I would like to to have a look at that........ [12:10] Tonio_: sure [12:11] I don't understand, really [12:11] robotgeek: http://pastebin.com/602615 [12:11] scanning doesn't work [12:12] I simply instal networkmanager, and everything is perfect......... [12:12] sounds stupid, but that is........ [12:13] Tonio_: really weird, i should say. [12:14] robotgeek: http://pastebin.com/602620 [12:14] is that what you where talking about ? [12:14] networkmanager seems to be waiting a bit [12:15] Tonio_: yes. network manager waits to initialise [12:15] robotgeek: isn't there a way to get that working without network-manager ? [12:15] Tonio_: you may want to run that script and have tail -f /var/log/syslog in another konsole [12:15] Tonio_: i am not running network-manager either [12:16] robotgeek: okay [12:16] the problem is that once networkmanager worked on the computer, I have to restart to recreate the issue [12:16] Tonio_: yes, nm caused me more trouble than good, actually :) [12:18] robotgeek: rebooting once more to get the issue === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] robotgeek: now working with your script [12:23] sounds strange.......... [12:24] Tonio_, allee: just published https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave [12:24] please have a look if you have time [12:25] mbiebl will send e-mail to kubuntu-devel and I will include his point in wiki [12:25] Lure: I totally agree :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] robotgeek: in fact the issue is really simple to correct........ [12:29] hey Tonio_ , glad it works [12:29] what did you do to make it work ootb? [12:30] only ifconfig downup eth1 and that's it [12:30] hmm, i wonder what the does [12:30] robotgeek: no idea........ [12:30] I had an issue like this with my webcam [12:31] I had to make a simple script that was unloading and reloading the driver during boot to make it work [12:31] Lure: I've had no change to test (k)powersave, but IMHO cpu freq scaling should be always on. After I unplug/plug power, state was back to 'Performance' and not 'dynamic' as I had choosen explicitely before the unplug [12:31] robotgeek: but honnestly, this driver is a pain to configure [12:32] Tonio_: give it some time, it has been out for 2-3 months? [12:32] robotgeek: ndiswrapper was making the job way easier [12:32] robotgeek: yes, and what about the firmware ? [12:32] Lure: so 2 little buglets ;) [12:32] any chance it is implemented soon ? [12:32] Tonio_: ndiswrapper doesn't work for me, i am on ppc [12:32] robotgeek: ah ;) [12:32] robotgeek: so about the firware ? do we have to extract it for legal reasons ? [12:33] Lure: add: Cons: needs more testing / feedback to the sure it's ready for dapper [12:33] allee: this is default config setting - when AC is detected it switches to Perfromance [12:33] allee: will do... [12:33] Tonio_: yes, it is illegal to distribute, but i think we can host it in France, like the rest :) [12:33] robotgeek: okay :) [12:33] robotgeek: we have to wait for a compatible one so ;) [12:34] Lure: right, I only expected what when I switch to dynamic during pluged-in-power at is stays this way after unplug/plug [12:34] Tonio_: i am not sure if firwares are different for different cards [12:34] Lure: maybe my expectation is wrong? [12:34] robotgeek: I will never understand this.......... why forbidding the distribution for a driver when the hardware is bought ? money already earne, so what the fucking problem is ? [12:35] allee: see /etc/powersave/common [12:35] s/earne/earned [12:35] Tonio_: everyone scared of Apple's lawyers :) [12:35] allee: we probably need to talk with upstream - I will add a section for open questions/issues [12:35] Tonio_: gotta run, be back later === kwwii is now known as kwwii_afk [12:36] allee: I think issue is that SuSE does such config through Yast (see that file) [12:36] robotgeek: http://broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/driver-sla.php?driver=4401-Linux [12:36] it appears they have gnu/gpl drivers........... [12:37] I don't understand anything............ [12:37] maybe we need to write kde-guidance applet for that ;-) [12:41] Lure: Such a section is a good idea. I changed back to 'performance' but set cpufreq scaling to dynamic. Seem to work now. Freq still at min of 600 MHz === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] Lure: page mention cpufreq monitor. Where is it? [12:47] allee: just click on icon (left click) [12:47] Lure: AH, found it. LMB click [12:47] :) [12:48] allee: what you will probably see is CPU freq changing quite a lot [12:48] I suspect this is why linux battery life is cca 50% less that WinXP [12:48] (+noatime, latop-mode...) [12:49] kpowersave: pros: s/better kdeapplet (/more features: / [12:49] allee: just edit wiki and add [12:49] add * cleaner UI [12:49] Lure: okay, I didn't want to interfere with you. editing now ... [12:50] allee: I have to go for sleep anyhow - will have busy day tommorow at work... [12:50] Lure: sleep well. [12:50] Lure: ah, and really great page btw ;) [12:51] allee: thanks and good night === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] robotgeek: finally making a 2 lines scripts in rcS.d, working perfectly :) [12:53] thanks for your help [12:54] I will probably contact upstream to report the bug === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@fctnnbsc16w-156034219142.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] I'd like to propose a new cursor theme for Kubuntu. Where is the appropriate place to do so? === kwwii_afk is now known as kwwii [01:39] Parkotron: here [01:40] Excellent. [01:41] I think Pinux's Tux cursors (http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=19506&PHPSESSID=75096eaee4a17aad6c5dfc11d786be3e) are very slick, clean, usable, and match the general Kubuntu look very well. [01:42] If desired a Kubuntu version could be whipped up very easily. Heck, even I could do it. [01:45] The source is SVG so supporting different sizes is easy. I've seen a few complaints about Kubuntu Human being too small a high resolutions. [01:48] hmm, I'm not convinced [01:48] it seems a bit amateurish [01:49] kwwii is our artwork man, maybe he can offer a better opinion :) [01:53] I'm not entirely set on these cursors, but I feel that the current default is way to grumpy and Gnomish. It works on Ubuntu, but I think Kubuntu needs something friendlier. [01:54] Anyway, thanks for your consideration. === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] Parkotron: poke kwwii tomorrow, he might have more constructive comments [01:59] Riddell: Will do, thanks. When's the best time to find him around? [02:01] Parkotron: anytime he's not asleep [02:01] he's on UTC+1 === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [n=OddAbe19@c-68-82-230-35.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === phoch [n=phoch@c-24-2-19-105.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.18] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=zhengpen@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:29] okay, need some guidance here. http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/quickguide-web/C/ has screenshots. the screenshots theme is different from the [current] default kubuntu one. How different will the kde theme be from what is current now [08:34] the screenshot of adept is out of date :-) [08:36] robotgeek: in theory, 9th was UI freeze, so nothing should change from that point [08:36] robotgeek: but in the slewed variant, it was extended till mid-april [08:37] mornfall: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-March/005520.html [08:38] robotgeek: there is a 2 week window between UI freeze and Doc freeze [08:38] mornfall: yes, that it if it is approved. otherwise we have 10 days [08:38] robotgeek: in either case -- the problem is that apparently noone knows *when* the freezes started to be effective [08:39] plus, the doc team has not made any recommendation on freezes, i am just trying to guage how much work will that tkae [08:39] robotgeek: which means the freeze is inefficient and the process borked -- i would count on the extended one [08:39] robotgeek: in case the freeze is not extended, it's not your fault that noone knew if the freeze is in effect or no [08:39] mornfall: i wouldn't have thought of joining both the documents unless it's extended [08:40] mornfall: no, the desktop guide is complete as such. [08:40] robotgeek: if there are no screenshots and no UI changes, probably [08:40] since UI is maybe frozen and maybe not, it may actually change a fair bit ;-) [08:41] mornfall: the Desktop Guide cleverly avoided all screenshots [08:41] lets see, what discussion happens on the mailing list. [08:42] b0rk b0rk, people need to learn to respect freezes [08:42] i just wanted information on if the UI would change further majorly. cause we don't want to chase a moving target [08:42] robotgeek: that's what i wanted to answer -- but since noone knows it is frozen, it's potentially moving target yes [08:43] +if [08:43] okay... [08:44] robotgeek: when you have some statement on the effect of UI freeze, i think you are safe [08:44] yup [08:45] weird...ui freeze depends on dapper delay approval depends on doc status depends on ui freeze [08:46] robotgeek: right, that's because (k)ubuntu teams are lacking in the scheduling department ;-) [08:47] mathematically, we need to fix one parameter atleast :) [08:48] the problem is that you shouldn't discuss moving freeze while the freeze should be in effect [08:48] not unless your team is "small enough" [08:49] (in which case it can just meet and make up a new schedule in an hour and everyone acknowledges) [08:49] true, it is complicated [08:50] i would say it is far too late [08:50] it's like realizing that you won't finish in time two days after deadline [08:50] "oops" [08:52] is it possible to use rsync with cdimage.ubuntu.com? [08:52] anyways, i am heading to bed === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] hey all [09:10] hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee learnt the hard way why it's a bad idea to leave the car headlights on! [09:12] walking isn't that bad :) [09:12] hehe! [09:12] from there it is! [09:12] k right [09:13] i know this aint a help # [09:13] but i need info now [09:13] some idiot deleted a bunch of partitions [09:13] it possible to undelete em ? [09:13] oh dear... === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:13] maybe if they haven't been changed [09:13] there are certain drive recovery programs, so i suspect so, somehow... [09:13] have you looked at testdisk? it will restore deleted but unchanged partitions [09:14] how were they deleted? [09:14] seaLne, they used windows fdist just do delete the partitions [09:14] so all they did was fdisk changed stuff? [09:15] if so thats easy enough to undo === Hobbsee reads the meeting logs, from the 4am meeting [09:20] Hobbsee: I attended the first 15 minutes.. [09:20] yeah i saw... [09:20] well, am seeing [09:20] was okay, but noisier than the 9am on [09:20] +e [09:20] just up to the start of the first meeting now [09:20] hehe [09:21] I still think my idea of distinguishing Dapper is alright... [09:21] "Ubuntu 6-04, Vulcan Edition", "Because it lives longer and prospers" [09:21] ubuntu bug 6 in gdb "gdb package contains non-free GNU FDL documentation" [Normal,Resolved: notwarty] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6 [09:22] perhaps a bit too geeky for some admittedly [09:23] hehe [09:25] I also thought of "Longlife Edition" (think batteries) [09:25] seaLne, building a bootcd quick [09:25] seaLne, will test it ( Hope it works ) [09:25] seaLne, if i knew where the old parts where i could just use fdisk to do it [09:27] testdisk is not that userfriendly but very effective === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:30] raphink: ping [09:30] Hobbsee: pong [09:31] raphink: again, congratulations :P [09:31] hehe :) [09:31] seaLne, one i get it booted i will ask you how to use it === verwilst [n=bv@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] seaLne, !!!!!!!!!!! [09:47] seaLne, OMFW [09:47] testdisk is a l33tn3s [09:57] heh [09:57] so it recovered it fine? === AgarFu [n=agarfu@199.Red-213-97-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] hi === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] hmmpf [10:16] powersaved segfaults :( [10:41] raphink: yes? on what? [10:41] ppc [10:42] $ sudo powersaved [10:42] Password: [10:42] Segmentation fault [10:42] nothing more [10:42] no log, nothing [10:42] interesting - maybe we should ask on powersaved mailing list about PPC support ( [10:42] I have not looked into anything else then i386 [10:42] Lure: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/powersave/+bug/35006 [10:42] malone bug 35006 in powersave "powesaved segfaults" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [10:43] raphink: which version of powersave? from mbiebl or from universe? [10:43] ii powersaved 0.11.2-1 power management daemon [10:44] (from universe) [10:44] this is old one... Can you try building your own from mbiebl sources? [10:44] see KubuntuPowersave in wiki for link to his announcement [10:45] sure [10:49] raphink: r u using kubntu on your pbook ? [10:49] yes [10:50] raphink: have sent inquiry to powersave-devel (with kubuntu-devel Cc) about PPC/amd64 support [10:50] raphink: after suspend-to-ram ,can sound works ? [10:50] ok [10:50] freeflying: Idon't know, havent gone deeply into that yet [10:51] is suspend-to-ram the default mode? [10:51] when I close the comp, does it go to suspend to ram ? [10:51] raphink: y [10:51] then yes [10:51] I just have to switch the sound back to the right volume [10:51] the sound gets switch to 0 when it suspends [10:51] but it still works [10:53] raphink: ya , is it a bug [10:53] it doesn't seem to be [10:53] unless we suppose the volume is supposed to be turned back to its previous value when waking up [10:54] switching it to 0 seems actually like a feature [10:54] raphink: but we'd unmute sound after uncover the screen from s-t-r [10:54] yes [10:54] then you can consider this is a bug ;) [10:54] raphink: :) === verwilst [n=bv@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] seaLne, yes i recovered it fine [11:00] cool [11:00] Does the 6-week delay make it possible to have 3.5.2 in Dapper? [11:02] well 3.5.2 should be out soon [11:06] It's about a week, but still UVF and stuff. [11:10] yes [11:14] hm, the new color scheme is a bit too high-contrast :$ [11:23] hello Riddell [11:23] may it write a kcontrol module in python [11:23] hello Huahua [11:23] Huahua: if you wish, see kde-guidance for how it's done [11:24] Riddell: thanks you [11:36] evening Riddell [11:43] morning Hobbsee === Hobbsee makes a mental note to fix checkinstall, and do the UVF thingo for it [11:47] Riddell, there is a typo in the koffice 1.5beta2 links [11:47] for dapper [11:48] it says koffice15beta2 [11:48] while it's koffice-15beta2 [11:48] ;) [11:53] verwilst: thanks, fixed [11:54] :) [11:54] it still doesn't install [11:54] something about libruby1.8 [11:54] but hey, at least the apt-get update will work now ;) [11:54] verwilst: what's the problem? [11:55] package libruby1.8 is not available, but is referenced by another package blablabla [11:55] :) [11:55] could be a local issue though [11:56] haven't checked it out very thouroughly yet [11:58] well, i'm off, going to buy a new cellphone ;) [11:59] verwilst: I heard that amarok 1.4 requires ruby (for lyrics module) [12:07] verwilst: libruby1.8 is in breezy main, make sure you have breezy main in your sources.list [12:34] raphink: powersave should work with PPC (have forwarded e-mail to you) [12:39] <_Sime> Huahua: There are even docs about how to write kcontrol modules. http://www.simonzone.com/software/pykdeextensions/en/index.html [12:42] Lure: hmmm [12:42] Lure: actually right now I can't even build the new version [12:42] due to libsysfs.la? [12:42] Lure: yep [12:43] since it was removed [12:43] do you have a solution for that? [12:43] know issue - I would just looking how to get this back [12:43] on some platforms they have this in libsysfs-dev package [12:43] _Sime: Huahua is not online now [12:44] yes I know [12:44] but pitti removed libsysfs.la from libsysfs-dev [12:44] to fix a debian bug [12:44] he said this was confusing libtools [12:44] :s [12:45] mbiebl said that that debian already addressed this, but I cannot find where... [12:45] addressed what? [12:45] debian had same problem initially: missing libsysfs.la [12:46] Riddell: k3b 0.12.14 fixes bug #31578 i've packaged it if thats any use http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/k3b/ [12:46] malone bug 31578 in k3b "K3B bails out due to a growisofs issue" [Major,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31578 [12:46] let's see [12:47] raphink: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-March/000923.html [12:47] raphink: and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-March/000930.html [12:47] seaLne: seems like a good reason for a UVFe [12:48] seaLne: did you test it? === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] seaLne: have you confirmed that it fixes that problem? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] Riddell: why doesnt the UK class as bein part of Europe in your books/ [01:20] because we have the servers in England === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] umm [01:37] am I the only one that preferred the last iteration of kubuntu artwork? [01:37] the white login/splash before this one [01:37] also the usplash is a bit dodge :\ === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst pets Lathiat [01:53] ooh gtk now gets a decent theme [01:53] by default on kubuntu [01:53] yay :) [01:55] Lathiat: what's that? [01:55] Riddell: gtk applications have a decent theme [01:56] Riddell: before they used to look like crap with the default gtk stuff [01:56] what theme? [01:56] dunno [01:56] but it looks liek the kde theme [01:56] might be gtk-qt ? [01:56] yeh tahts what it is, sine its installed [01:56] groovy, that'll be tonio's fix working to run that as default [01:57] # This file was written by KDE [01:57] # You can edit it in the KDE control center, under "GTK Styles and Fonts" [01:57] include "/usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" [01:57] in my ~?.gtkrc-2.0 [01:57] dont remember setting it tho [01:57] startkde does it for you now [01:57] ah === rodrigo [n=rodrigo@201.37.220.26] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] will it overwrite it if it already exists? === kinga_ [n=kinga@jangce-2006.adsl.datanet.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] ah yeh [01:58] i ee [01:58] thats cool [01:59] Riddell: the artwork.. the kubuntu splash looks somewhat distorted ? [01:59] Riddell: did you get matthew easts eamil about kubuntu docs and the build process? [01:59] Lathiat: I know, it's evil, usplash is at 400 high now but on most monitors that gets stretched to a multiple of 480 [02:00] Lathiat, it did for me until I switched my screen res ;) [02:00] it looks nice on powerpc [02:00] Riddell: ah [02:00] heh [02:00] jjesse: yes, it's on my todo list for today [02:00] oh - usplash ? [02:00] looks fine to me [02:00] also i personally preferred the previous kdm splash [02:00] but thats cause I'm on widescreen [02:00] muchly [02:01] Riddell: how do you keep track of all the things you have to do :) [02:01] but thats just me :) [02:01] jjesse: mostly I wait until people remind me about them :) [02:01] hehe === Hobbsee will remember this === Lathiat laughs === Hobbsee will bring pitchforks and flaming torches the next time she wants something from Riddell [02:02] Hobbsee: barbeque? [02:02] Tm_T: we could barbeque Riddell, yes [02:02] mmm chicken? === Tm_T goes find some mustard ans sausages [02:02] eek! === Lathiat laughs [02:03] but first, we allgo to sauna, right? [02:03] hehe! [02:03] i'm game for it :) [02:03] would you be any good to be barbecued Riddell? or are you one of those people that are far too thin to be barbecued, unless people like eating bone? [02:03] i hope theres plenty of meat [02:04] fat atleast [02:04] ;( [02:04] having been sitting infront of a computer working on kubuntu for over a year I'm no longer very thin === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] Riddell: as I said ;) [02:04] hehe [02:04] Riddell, last time I saw you you were still quite thin [02:04] fair enough [02:05] freeflying-ibook: skim still starts up as default for non-CKJ locales, even with your patch [02:05] Riddell: from fresh install ? [02:05] Riddell: yeah, i couldn't burn dvds before but i can now [02:05] freeflying-ibook: yes, on the live CD [02:05] seaLne: excellent, thanks, I'll ask for an upstream version freeze exception [02:06] Riddell: ok, I'll check it tomorrow === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad is impressed [02:53] started my computer after last night's upgrade to Dapper [02:54] the new color scheme is starting to grow on me i like, it seems bolder === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] hi freeflying [02:58] nlindblad: hi === faked [n=faked@85-124-40-228.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6203E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:26] the upgrade seems to have removed amaroK and Katapult [03:30] riddell: wanna join the crowd saying the new artwork is cool ;-) [03:30] its a bit more pronounced [03:30] nice job [03:31] btw with the 6 week delay, will kde 3.5.2 get in? maybe koffice 1.5? amarok 1.4? [03:32] superstoned: i think _Tonio mentioned in the meeting yetserday that would happen [03:32] jjesse: that's cool, really cool... :D [03:36] "pronounced". nice word :) [03:37] superstoned: 3.5.2 probably, no idea about koffice or amarok [03:38] seaLne: k3b uploaded === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:16] a question about bug 32791 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/32791) bug reported says that it was a problem due to his setup of XGL, can the bug be closed? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0B19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21] hmm, XGL and amarok beta [04:21] so hardly a priority [04:21] but well, it is a bug [04:22] btw kudos to the launchpad team i like the changes they made to display bugs it looks a lot better [04:22] which changes? [04:23] when i look at bugs assinged to kubuntu team, the list appears differently [04:23] looks cleaner and easier to navigate [04:25] oh yes, they got rid of the left hand column stuff [04:25] +subscribedbugs is more reliable than +assigned bugs :) [04:28] jjesse: yes, major improvement, however I am missing sort by time (newest first) [04:29] This helped me have a daily overview of incoming bugs (much harder to do now) [04:31] Lure: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search&orderby=-datecreated === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] Riddell: thank!!! just nicely hidden (are you reading malone code to get this ;-)) [04:36] it's the Sort By box at the top [04:37] then click Search [04:38] that is new... from today? [04:38] or am I blind??? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] is flight 5 out yet? the link from cdimage.ubuntu.com works, but it was not released for kubuntu iirc [04:43] robotgeek: it was today [04:44] seaLne: thanks === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:44] mail this morning by Riddell to ubuntu-announce [04:45] see kubuntu.org [04:45] yeah, i checked yesterday, it wasn't there. it got in there today [04:45] nice looking cake :) [04:46] yup === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] does anyone know what happens about packages that got into NEW before FF? [04:58] seaLne: possibly still there, what do you have in mind? [04:59] its depressing that every time i check back nothing has happened with https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/dcfldd === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@gimel.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@gimel.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:08] seaLne: could try asking kamion === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-238-97.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@85-124-46-151.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:35] the server died on me === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0B19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:36] nlindblad: which? [06:37] my homeserver [06:38] ah, good, not my fault then :) [06:39] :D [06:39] not good... [06:40] not from your point of view, no [06:40] tried all spare hardware I have but nothing works [06:41]