| Tonio_ | allee: svg and looks much better | 12:03 |
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| Tonio_ | while ressembling a lot | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | no ? | 12:03 |
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| toma | allee: i can send it to you, but i dont feel like working on digikam at this moment, I only maintain the parts i wrote of course. | 12:04 |
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| Lure | I just turned 32 - so I can invite you for virtual beer... ;-) | 12:04 |
| robotgeek | congrats Lure | 12:05 |
| Lure | and NM from cvs works ;-) | 12:05 |
| hunger | Congrats, Lure | 12:05 |
| allee | toma: 'k. No problem. If you find one send it. | 12:05 |
| robotgeek | awesome! | 12:05 |
| hunger | Lure: Next week I will invite you to a virtual beer for my 32 bday;-) | 12:05 |
| Lure | hunger: great! | 12:06 |
| allee | Tonio_: feel free to use it, but is it worth later merging efforts? (mhhmm, a sf.net bug needs to be filed too) | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | allee: well, it is not complicated to do ;) not a lot of efforts ;) | 12:07 |
| allee | Tonio_: then go ahead :) | 12:07 |
| toma | allee: uploading to :smtp now. | 12:08 |
| allee | Lure: hey, hey congrats! | 12:08 |
| Lure | allee: thanks! | 12:09 |
| toma | (everyone seems to be able to 'upload' something, just adjusting my language here) | 12:09 |
| allee | lol | 12:09 |
| allee | toma: hint: ask for a revu account. So you can upload too:) | 12:10 |
| toma | haha, nooo, that will create expectations ;-) | 12:11 |
| allee | toma: btw did you hear back from codeine upstream about you media: patch? | 12:11 |
| === allee hides because he had no time to try patch yet | ||
| === allee blushes | ||
| toma | haha | 12:12 |
| toma | no, i did not hear back | 12:12 |
| toma | he writes on his website 1.0.0 is final, so im not sure it will be accepted | 12:12 |
| allee | I sent him 2 or 3 mails about other stuff. Ditto: no response | 12:13 |
| toma | and i dont think my lib compiles <3.5, so might need some more work | 12:13 |
| allee | toma: but he promounces usability. And media: support is all about usability | 12:13 |
| toma | is it in kubuntu? | 12:13 |
| toma | then we can patch it here, instead of upstream | 12:13 |
| allee | yes and no. I'm still checking ... | 12:14 |
| allee | toma: of course I could add the patch. Just a lack of time (/me feels guilty again) | 12:14 |
| toma | allee: if it is on alioth, I can take care of it if that is what you mean | 12:15 |
| allee | allee: yes, it's in alioth | 12:15 |
| toma | allee: i can add it, but we need some testers then, can we arrange an upload to experimental in that case? | 12:17 |
| toma | maybe switch to #debian-qt-kde? | 12:18 |
| allee | toma: it's not debian yet and waiting for NEW is no good idea. We can upload to REVU and/or my private repo | 12:19 |
| allee | toma: you have no priv apt repo yet? | 12:19 |
| toma | no. | 12:20 |
| allee | I'll check that codeine in kubuntu and alioth match and tag it. | 12:21 |
| === allee has given up to do paid-work and switches to kubuntu-mode ;) | ||
| toma | ok, i will work on medialib soon, i comitted it to kdesvn btw | 12:22 |
| toma | paid-work is so eightees.... | 12:22 |
| allee | toma: any response about medialib from other kde devels? | 12:30 |
| toma | nope | 12:30 |
| toma | but that is ok. I can put it into digikam when it is working 100%. Although we need to decide&discuss which part we need in digiKam... | 12:32 |
| toma | i think access like codeine will be enough & we should forget about a menu.. Media uses a few backends hal, fstab, etc. It is difficult to have it correct at all times | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I didn't though about that before, but is there a way to add png icons without modofying the tarball ? | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | ^^ | 12:34 |
| toma | Tonio_: uudecode it | 12:34 |
| allee | toma: 1) plugin camera and get an entry in media action dialog (+ raise, change desktop, etc if digikam is running) 2) umount in digikam menu 3) whatever you like to add | 12:34 |
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| Tonio_ | toma: so uuencoding them, and uudecoding them while building ? nice idea ;) | 12:35 |
| allee | Tonio_: + sharutils build-dep | 12:35 |
| toma | Tonio_: yes, indeed. Do not forget to add uudecode as a dependency else build will fail for the other platforms | 12:35 |
| toma | he | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | toma: of course :) | 12:36 |
| === allee remembered the BTBFS too :) | ||
| allee | FTBFS that is | 12:36 |
| toma | ;-) | 12:36 |
| toma | allee: sounds doable. I've compiled my kdelibs wrongly, so i'm seeing some problems now when hal is not used. | 12:37 |
| toma | first i want to finish the kdelibs logrotate patch for kabc file loss... | 12:37 |
| allee | toma: I tought that's fixed? Or do you mean automaticly-copy-last-on-zero-backup-if-kabc-file-is-empty? | 12:38 |
| allee | s/on/non/ | 12:38 |
| toma | yes, that one, a saner backup strategy and restore it automatically when it is nuked | 12:39 |
| Lure | time for bed - good night everybody | 12:40 |
| toma | it's being reviewed now, hope to get it in kdesvn before 3.5.2 | 12:40 |
| allee | nite Lure | 12:40 |
| toma | nite | 12:40 |
| toma | allee: i'm in doubt about kipi, the new htmlexport is something which should be good for dapper as well. | 12:41 |
| allee | toma: have you tried it? (again I had no time yet) | 12:42 |
| toma | allee: yes, i played with it for a few seconds. I think it is ok. But I'll look into it further when there is interest | 12:43 |
| allee | toma: question is if htmlgallery replacement can be seen as fixes-several-bugfix and not as new-feature | 12:43 |
| allee | toma: if it's good we can always put it in my repo and upload to debian | 12:44 |
| toma | true, but the old one is not removed, so in fact it is a new feature. | 12:44 |
| toma | but it is a lot better than the buggy export | 12:44 |
| allee | toma: the patch that add htmlgallery will remove imagegallery too | 12:44 |
| toma | sure? | 12:45 |
| allee | toma: yeah, you (or we) are doing the patch. So why not? imagegallery is buggy. So if there a better alternative. | 12:45 |
| toma | yes of course. | 12:46 |
| allee | toma: ah, I remember you keep discuss in mpeg decoder bug report. Is there anything to do for debian/kubuntu | 12:47 |
| toma | hmm, someone comitted a fix in svn for that | 12:48 |
| toma | im not into the details though | 12:48 |
| allee | I never used this plugin. Did you try it? | 12:48 |
| toma | no, never | 12:48 |
| allee | :) | 12:48 |
| toma | kipi should be released upstream, but nobody will do that | 12:48 |
| toma | alioth already contains a very big branch pull | 12:49 |
| toma | maybe i should do that, but it has no advantages from the kubuntu/debian side. | 12:49 |
| allee | if this get's too messy we can create your own rc1+svnYYYMMDd tarball | 12:50 |
| toma | good idea | 12:50 |
| allee | but I followed kde-imaging only marginally this year so I don't know if other plugins got 'experimental' patches | 12:51 |
| toma | i remember only simpleviewer, but we can check the archives. | 12:52 |
| allee | toma: this is in bigpatch AFAIR | 12:52 |
| toma | yes, afair as well | 12:52 |
| toma | i see nothing obvious in the archives since the simpleviewer patch which we did not mention yet | 12:56 |
| toma | allee: hmmm, was your docbook commit correct? you changed your name recently? | 12:59 |
| allee | oh, did I reverse apply. checking ... | 01:00 |
| allee | toma: thx for noticing. this last minute change did not find it's way into dapper. I'll redo | 01:05 |
| toma | np | 01:07 |
| toma | ok, i'll reread this tomorrow to find my new todo-list, sleep for now. night allee | 01:08 |
| allee | toma: wait a bit | 01:09 |
| toma | k | 01:09 |
| allee | toma: should I apply your patch to codeine (in your name) or do you wnat to do it? | 01:09 |
| toma | feel free... | 01:10 |
| allee | 'k | 01:10 |
| toma | can i go to bed now? | 01:11 |
| toma | ok | 01:15 |
| toma | bye | 01:15 |
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| allee | toma_: oh, sorry. Yes of course :) | 01:19 |
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| Hobbsee | dont know *what* it is about my wireless card, but i think my computer hates it.. | 03:43 |
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| richard | Anyone here can help? | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | richard: no, not until you ask your question. | 03:45 |
| richard | I've got Wifi problems with Kubuntu Dapper 5. Same setup works flawlessly with Ubuntu Dapper 5 | 03:46 |
| richard | Seems I can't enbale the configuration . . . .keeps disabling itself and will not allow configuration. . .. | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | oh...that... | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | does it crash when you hit configure as well? | 03:47 |
| richard | Yes | 03:47 |
| richard | What is it that Ubuntu does right that Kubuntu can't get right? | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | solution is weird - seems to be "get your card working via the command line, then it configures fine by GUI" | 03:47 |
| richard | What would I need to do at the command line? | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | !wifi | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | hmm....no ubotu | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | richard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto | 03:49 |
| richard | OK I'll give them a look see. . .. it seems everyone Kubuntu release has given me this problems. Ubuntu works flawlessly with all releases. . ... | 03:50 |
| richard | Thanks for your help | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu has it's problems too - just see the network manager :P | 03:50 |
| richard | Thing is it finds my Wifi card and sets everything up effortlessly for Internet connection. . . | 03:51 |
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| hendry | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/ | 06:26 |
| hendry | who creates these ISOs? | 06:26 |
| robotgeek | why, is it cause they are slightly over size? | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | hendry: Riddell, i think | 06:26 |
| hendry | Riddell: are you about? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | he'll be asleep | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | for a while | 06:27 |
| hendry | what tz is he on? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | UK | 06:27 |
| hendry | is I want a package list for kubuntu dist. where do i find it? | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | packages.ubuntu.org | 06:28 |
| hendry | Hobbsee: that did't work for me | 06:28 |
| hendry | packages.ubuntu.org | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | might be .com | 06:28 |
| hendry | Hobbsee: ok | 06:29 |
| robotgeek | hendry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-powerpc.list | 06:29 |
| hendry | how do I know which packages are in Kubuntu? | 06:29 |
| hendry | robotgeek: oh. is that it? | 06:30 |
| hendry | this ISO is built with at list like that? | 06:30 |
| robotgeek | hendry: one sec, hold on | 06:30 |
| robotgeek | hendry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.list a list like that | 06:31 |
| hendry | where is stuff like /isolinux /dists and /preseed kept | 06:32 |
| robotgeek | hendry: that will be in the iso. i am not sure, sorry | 06:33 |
| freeflying | hendry: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/kubuntu-dapper/ | 06:33 |
| freeflying | hendry: that's you wanna | 06:34 |
| hendry | freeflying: they're design docs | 06:35 |
| hendry | useful | 06:35 |
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| nlindblad | yay! A day off! | 09:48 |
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| Tm_T | nlindblad: =) | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | nlindblad: I bet that was "accident" | 10:02 |
| nlindblad | it really was | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | you must be very "sorry" | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 10:03 |
| nlindblad | today was gonna be the day I told that girl how I felt about her | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 10:03 |
| nlindblad | s/felt/feel/g | 10:04 |
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| Tm_T | ? | 10:38 |
| nlindblad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackergotchi | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | aah | 10:40 |
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| Tm_T | I wonder... should I be mean or not | 10:45 |
| nlindblad | ? | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | in #kubuntu | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | <sing>I feel bad, nanananana</sing> | 10:48 |
| nlindblad | oh | 10:49 |
| Tm_T | oh well, more pills -> | 10:50 |
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| Hobbsee | see you all in the meeting tomorrow | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | hope i'll be awake! | 12:31 |
| nlindblad | anyone using bluetooth with KDE? | 12:35 |
| allee | nlindblad: yes. But only with ISDN and mouse | 12:41 |
| nlindblad | okey | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | night all...see you at 7am my time, 20.00 UTC | 12:47 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: night | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | oh, hey... Lure - robotgeek mentioned that you'd done some work with knetworkmanager | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | how far did you get? | 12:47 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: NM works for me (with ipw2200), knetworkmanager have still compilation issues | 12:48 |
| Lure | I will update my wiki page with progress | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | what problems with compilation? | 12:48 |
| allee | Hobbsee: that's really early :( | 12:48 |
| Lure | knetworkmanager does not have SVN/CVS repository, therefore I am using snapshot published in blog on Mar 11 | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | allee: 7am? yeah, it is rather | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: yep, i saw, i tried that too | 12:48 |
| Lure | dbus header files do not match the expected - maybe it is Suse vs. Ubuntu issue (as dbus is in heavy development) | 12:49 |
| Hobbsee | yep, that sounds familiar | 12:49 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- be there! That's in less than 12 hours! | ||
| Lure | good think is that ipw2200 will get updated soon in Ubuntu, therefore one dependacy less | 12:50 |
| Lure | (still many to overcome) :-( | 12:50 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: yay! | 12:51 |
| nlindblad | I suc | 12:51 |
| nlindblad | *suck | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:51 |
| nlindblad | I feel guilty about missing that bus | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: it seems to mostly work with ndiswrapper - seems pretty buggy though - sometimes doesnt connect | 12:51 |
| === Hobbsee suspects she should hand out her mobile number so someone can call to wake her up in the morning hehe | ||
| nlindblad | she?? | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | nlindblad: yes | 12:53 |
| nlindblad | cool | 12:53 |
| Hobbsee | night all... | 12:54 |
| seaLne | its been awhile since i used debian reportbug, how am i supposed to include a patch? do you just stick it in the body of the message? | 01:14 |
| seaLne | ah ok you need to specify it as an option | 01:15 |
| seaLne | oh no actually "a" | 01:15 |
| seaLne | ignore my ramblings, sorry | 01:15 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: ping? | 02:22 |
| kwwii | Riddell: want to make a list of things that we can still work on in the time left? | 02:22 |
| Riddell | kwwii: ok | 02:24 |
| Riddell | kwwii: dapper is delayed by the way, so plenty time | 02:24 |
| kwwii | Riddell: cool :-) erm, I mean...too bad it is delayed :-) | 02:25 |
| seaLne | is it ok in malone to file a bug that is in debian BTS? | 02:26 |
| Riddell | seaLne: yes | 02:26 |
| seaLne | thought so | 02:27 |
| seaLne | thanks | 02:27 |
| nlindblad | dapper delayed?? Why? | 02:30 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo | 02:34 |
| Riddell | anyone with artwork ideas they'd like kwwii to work on please add to that page | 02:35 |
| nlindblad | Riddell: why is it delayed? | 02:36 |
| === kwwii bookmarks that page :-) | ||
| Riddell | nlindblad: order of the sabdfl | 02:37 |
| nlindblad | okey | 02:38 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: should we at least replace the help header pics? | 03:13 |
| kwwii | and what does "example content" mean? | 03:13 |
| kwwii | templates and such? | 03:13 |
| Riddell | example-content is a package, with random bits of clipart and files | 03:14 |
| Riddell | some of the files have an ubuntu theme, so they should be changed to kubuntu | 03:14 |
| kwwii | ah-ha, gotcha | 03:14 |
| Riddell | changing help header pics always seems like more bother than it's worth, means changing it in several places | 03:14 |
| kwwii | we can put the svg logos from the new work | 03:14 |
| Riddell | put on wiki? certainly can | 03:15 |
| kwwii | yeah...but the header pics as they are now are really more fitting to the older desktop/theme | 03:15 |
| kwwii | we might add it as optional | 03:15 |
| kwwii | or "if time allows" | 03:15 |
| Riddell | if you think the help stuff could do with changing then we can do that, but I don't want to spend much time on it. and for some reason the build system for the help stuff always ends up taking lots of time | 03:16 |
| Riddell | kwwii: apparantly there's a video in example context that is a recorded desktop session, we should try and get a kubuntu version | 03:17 |
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| kwwii | I know exactly what you mean - I still have nightmares about theming the help system | 03:17 |
| kwwii | is it a screen capture? | 03:18 |
| Riddell | no idea, havn't seen it | 03:18 |
| kwwii | or a real video of someone using a computer? | 03:18 |
| kwwii | I'll check it out | 03:19 |
| kwwii | ok...I added the help stuff to the wiki | 03:22 |
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| kwwii | oh wow...example content is full of ubuntu stuff | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | iiwwk! | 03:35 |
| kwwii | and no edubuntu | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | where? | 03:35 |
| kwwii | example-content | 03:37 |
| kwwii | and the video is a screen capture | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 03:38 |
| Tm_T | I don't get it | 03:38 |
| Tm_T | but also, I'm known to be slow | 03:38 |
| kwwii | it's a package, with artwork, etc...from ubuntu and a few kubuntu - nothing to worry about :-) | 03:39 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 03:40 |
| Tm_T | and when I install it, I can check content by... | 03:40 |
| kwwii | looking in /usr/share/ | 03:42 |
| Tm_T | yay! | 03:44 |
| Tm_T | ok, checking -> | 03:44 |
| Tm_T | I mean installing :p | 03:44 |
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| === raphink just made is first upload to main :D | ||
| === nlindblad congratulates raphink for his brave sacrifice | ||
| raphink | haha :) | 05:12 |
| raphink | just fixed the k3bsetup bug :) | 05:12 |
| Tm_T | meh | 05:12 |
| raphink | hehe :) | 05:13 |
| nlindblad | I should probably learn C/C++ and howto use the KDE-libs with Python (that I know fairly good) | 05:13 |
| nlindblad | bughunting isn't that fun if you can't solve it | 05:14 |
| Riddell | raphink: ooh? | 05:14 |
| raphink | well there was no need for C/C++ knowledge to fix thiis one at least ;) | 05:14 |
| nlindblad | really? | 05:15 |
| raphink | Riddell: it was caused by the kubuntu_01_hide_k3bsetup.diff patch | 05:15 |
| raphink | quite logivally | 05:15 |
| raphink | NoDisplay=true prevented it from working in kcmshell | 05:15 |
| jjesse | tried the wireless lan assistant last night, worked ok except it didn't get me an ip address via dhcp, had to do a sudo dhclient eth1 | 05:15 |
| raphink | funnily enough | 05:15 |
| raphink | Riddell: so I removed this | 05:15 |
| raphink | and changed the Categories fields instead | 05:15 |
| raphink | so it doesn't appear in the K Menu | 05:15 |
| raphink | but works in kcmshell | 05:15 |
| raphink | :) | 05:15 |
| raphink | (tested it of course) | 05:16 |
| Riddell | raphink: what did you change categories to? | 05:16 |
| raphink | Riddell: I took the same as userconfig.desktop | 05:16 |
| Riddell | of course, so simple when you know how :) | 05:17 |
| Riddell | top stuff raphink | 05:17 |
| raphink | Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system; | 05:17 |
| raphink | :) | 05:17 |
| Tm_T | heh | 05:17 |
| Tm_T | raphink: yay! | 05:17 |
| Riddell | raphink: do you have main upload yet? | 05:17 |
| raphink | Riddell: i think this desktop should also be installed in /usr/share/applications/kde instead of /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System as it is now | 05:17 |
| raphink | but that's for another update | 05:17 |
| raphink | Riddell: yep, it's my first upload | 05:18 |
| raphink | and it was just accepted :) | 05:18 |
| raphink | so it worked :) | 05:18 |
| raphink | look on dapper-changes :) | 05:19 |
| Riddell | poke upstream to make them use XDG menus, there's limited point in us doing it | 05:19 |
| raphink | hmmm | 05:20 |
| raphink | well upstream regarding the package is debian imo | 05:20 |
| raphink | I closed the malone bug | 05:20 |
| raphink | and filed the patch to the kde bts and debian bts | 05:20 |
| raphink | since debian merged this patch some time ago and since then has been having the same bug | 05:20 |
| raphink | bad thing is that the DD applied the patch instead of using it in rules | 05:21 |
| raphink | so he'll have to -R it before applying mine | 05:21 |
| raphink | bt not my fault if he can't use correct patch systems ;) | 05:21 |
| raphink | I'm patching the source, not the patched package ;) | 05:21 |
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| kmon | hi | 07:14 |
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| kmon | there's a bug in the amarok 1.4 beta2 package which shows the splash screen even if you disable it in the options. Since this was working fine with previous beta package I assume the bug it's in the package, but I could be completely wrong :) | 07:16 |
| Riddell | kmon: that doesn't sound like a packaging bug, try complaining in #amarok | 07:17 |
| kmon | ok | 07:17 |
| Tm_T | nooooo | 07:17 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: hmm? | 07:17 |
| Tm_T | nothing =) | 07:17 |
| Tm_T | I'm just one of #amarok actives =) | 07:18 |
| Riddell | kmon: there you go, Tm_T will solve all your problems :) | 07:19 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| Riddell | we do actually turn the splash screen off by default in kubuntu, so it's possible that messes with things, I don't see how though | 07:20 |
| Tm_T | let's see | 07:20 |
| Tm_T | I compile amaroK from svn so, now we see if it's package or not | 07:20 |
| kmon | Riddell: markey on #amarok says it's very likely a packaging error... | 07:25 |
| kmon | Tm_T: ok | 07:26 |
| Tm_T | kmon: just you wait | 07:26 |
| kmon | Tm_T: ok, thanxs | 07:26 |
| Tm_T | hah! | 07:29 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: doesn't happen in non-Kubuntu environment, only in Kubuntu ;) | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | I blame... you! | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | ] ;= | 07:32 |
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| Tm_T | there's Qt4 in Ubuntu repositories, right? And I can run Qt4 apps in Kubuntu, right? | 08:17 |
| raphink | Tm_T: iirc you cannot have qt3 and qt4 installed at the same time | 08:25 |
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| Tm_T | raphink: I can, and I think I do have | 08:43 |
| Tm_T | apt:/show?libqt4-gui | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | that's installed in my system | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | "Qt 4 core GUI functionality runtime library" | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | that for example | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | hmm, I think that answer to my question | 08:47 |
| Riddell | yes, qt 3 and qt 4 are fine together | 08:54 |
| raphink | ok | 08:57 |
| Tm_T | I thought so | 08:57 |
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| Riddell | kmon, Tm_T: try with kubuntu-default-settings removed | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: in 10min (when this track ends) | 08:59 |
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| allee | MEETING! | 09:01 |
| Riddell | tsk, no jpatrick | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 09:03 |
| Tm_T | I'm coming | 09:03 |
| Riddell | kmon: ping, #ubuntu-meeting | 09:04 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee! | 09:05 |
| Riddell | meeting | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | hey Riddell! | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | going | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i actually made it this time, hehe | 09:06 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: argh! help! i'm not used to bringing up points in meetings lol! | 09:11 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: =) | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 09:12 |
| Tm_T | atleast I'm not the only one ;) | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: thank goodness this isnt the CC meeting or something! | 09:13 |
| Tm_T | haha | 09:13 |
| Tm_T | yeah, you can totally ignore this meeting ;) | 09:13 |
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| Hobbsee | hey jpatrick | 09:14 |
| jpatrick | hi Hobbsee | 09:14 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 09:15 |
| jpatrick | I know | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | ok :) | 09:15 |
| jpatrick | what did I miss? | 09:16 |
| Tm_T | me | 09:18 |
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| nlindblad | hi jpatrick | 09:32 |
| jpatrick | hey nlindblad | 09:32 |
| nlindblad | should I join the meeting? | 09:32 |
| jjesse | nlindblad: sure :) | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | nlindblad: you _have_ to | 09:32 |
| nlindblad | oh | 09:32 |
| nlindblad | why? | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | because I say so | 09:36 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 09:36 |
| nlindblad | okey | 09:37 |
| nlindblad | :D | 09:37 |
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| nlindblad | of course you are... | 09:40 |
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| Tm_T | good night comrades | 10:07 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: Configure Desktop... | 10:07 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: just that i have to change in Guide :) | 10:08 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: ping. what timezone are you in? | 10:08 |
| kwwii | central europe | 10:08 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...ok... | 10:09 |
| kwwii | you? | 10:09 |
| Hobbsee | AEST - aussie time | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | it's 8,10 now | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | am | 10:10 |
| kwwii | ouch, now that is a time difference | 10:12 |
| kwwii | so we'll meet every morning :-) | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: no....i wont be awake | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | i'm at uni in the mornings, too | 10:12 |
| kwwii | lol | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | but there's some overlap at night. | 10:13 |
| kwwii | yeah, I often stay up pretty late | 10:13 |
| bkjones | *sigh* | 10:26 |
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| Hobbsee | bkjones: in regards to what? | 10:31 |
| bkjones | Got a new machine and want to see if turning on all the effects will still bog it down like it used to :) | 10:32 |
| kwwii | isn't there the bling-o-meter thingy | 10:32 |
| kwwii | whats is called again | 10:32 |
| bkjones | dunno - I like bling-o-meter, though. | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | *looks at time* | 10:33 |
| bkjones | I thought there was some slider thingy like that. | 10:33 |
| allee | bye. | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | oh crud, i'd better get going if i want to make it to uni on time today... | 10:33 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: have a nice day | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee_away | will do ;) | 10:34 |
| toma | Riddell: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1868 | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee_away | i'd take my laptop in, but it doesnt connect | 10:34 |
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| Riddell | toma: yeah, he's getting quite competitive is our beineri | 10:35 |
| kwwii | raphink: can you point me to the info for getting my broadcom chip up on my ppc laptop? | 10:35 |
| raphink | Riddell: just found out my k3b patch also turns on the K3B module in systemsettings :D | 10:35 |
| toma | Riddell: yeah, i saw hime beating on gnome yesterday iirc | 10:35 |
| raphink | kwwii: huh? | 10:35 |
| kwwii | erm....or maybe it was someone else :-) | 10:36 |
| raphink | I guess so | 10:36 |
| raphink | I don't know what you're talking about | 10:36 |
| raphink | although I'm on a ppc, too | 10:36 |
| kwwii | hehe | 10:36 |
| kwwii | the wlan card | 10:36 |
| Riddell | raphink: hmm, it will do that. try and edit /etc/xdg/menus/system-settings.menu to fix it | 10:36 |
| raphink | Riddell: why? | 10:37 |
| kmon | raphink: I would love to have kinfocenter & ksystemlog on systemsettings as well | 10:37 |
| raphink | Riddell: it's good to be able to set K3B in systemsettings, no? | 10:37 |
| raphink | kmon: kinfocenter is not a kcmshell module imo | 10:37 |
| raphink | it's a standalone app | 10:37 |
| Riddell | raphink: no, we should need to change anything, it should just work | 10:37 |
| Riddell | shouldn't | 10:37 |
| raphink | Riddell: there, just what I said :) | 10:38 |
| kmon | raphink: oh, I see... pitty | 10:38 |
| raphink | Riddell: I just said k3b setup works in systemsettings now | 10:38 |
| raphink | it wouldn't show up before | 10:38 |
| raphink | as it should have | 10:38 |
| Riddell | raphink: we don't want it to show up, there shouldn't be a need to have to set up k3 | 10:38 |
| raphink | hmmm ok | 10:38 |
| raphink | :s | 10:39 |
| raphink | then I'll have to change it ;) | 10:40 |
| raphink | hmmm | 10:43 |
| raphink | doesn't seem to work | 10:43 |
| nlindblad | I guess I could get more involved in translation | 10:44 |
| nlindblad | but I'm not sure whether my language is good enough | 10:44 |
| nlindblad | what are your opinions on this? | 10:49 |
| Riddell | raphink: did you ever do that MP3 .desktop file for adept installer? | 10:50 |
| raphink | hmm no | 10:51 |
| toma | Tonio_: can you send me your patch and show me your problem? | 10:51 |
| raphink | I didn't because there were issues with it | 10:51 |
| raphink | didn't go further | 10:51 |
| raphink | Riddell: ok my fix is removing X-KDE-settings-system; from the Categories | 10:53 |
| raphink | so it won't show up in systemsettings | 10:53 |
| raphink | it's something I've added actually and shouldn't have | 10:53 |
| Riddell | raphink: won't it then show up in the k-menu? | 10:53 |
| raphink | let me check | 10:54 |
| raphink | I don't think so | 10:54 |
| raphink | if I keep Qt;KDE; | 10:54 |
| raphink | only | 10:54 |
| raphink | I don't add System; | 10:54 |
| raphink | no it doesn't show | 10:54 |
| raphink | I just have Categories=Qt;KDE; | 10:55 |
| Riddell | yeah, that should be fine, it needs Core; to show in the top level | 10:55 |
| raphink | and it works | 10:55 |
| Riddell | ok, sorted | 10:55 |
| raphink | so I'll do that | 10:55 |
| raphink | hmm | 10:55 |
| raphink | should I try to move the .desktop to /usr/share/applications/kde too? | 10:55 |
| raphink | instead of /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System | 10:56 |
| nlindblad | some KDE apps are in need of Swedish translations | 10:56 |
| nlindblad | I'd be more than happy to help out | 10:56 |
| raphink | then please do :) | 10:56 |
| nlindblad | I will | 10:56 |
| nlindblad | but Rosetta only has GNOME apps atm | 10:57 |
| nlindblad | (mostly) | 10:57 |
| raphink | you can translate the pot files directly | 10:57 |
| Riddell | raphink: no, poke upstream but it doesn't add anything | 10:57 |
| raphink | ok | 10:57 |
| Riddell | raphink: the point of moving those files to use XDG is so they show up in gnome's app menu, but this isn't an app | 10:58 |
| raphink | so I'll just remove the X-KDE-settings-system; thingy | 10:58 |
| nlindblad | would be neat if kde-18ln would be in Rosetta! | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | toma: no pb ;) | 10:58 |
| toma | nlindblad: for who? kbabel is much nicer to use then rosetta | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | toma: in a "non-collaborative" opinion ;) | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | toma: email for the patch ? | 11:00 |
| nlindblad | toma: okey so I'd just get in touch with the main translator and help the whole KDE project then? | 11:00 |
| toma | Tonio_: tomalbers@kde.nl | 11:00 |
| toma | nlindblad: for kde apps that is your only option | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | toma: email sent | 11:01 |
| nlindblad | toma: right | 11:01 |
| toma | nlindblad: although sv has an impressive track record: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/sv/ | 11:01 |
| nlindblad | toma: I'll send a nice mail tomorrow asking if I could help out | 11:01 |
| raphink | Riddell: uploading new version that won't show in systemsettings | 11:01 |
| raphink | ;) | 11:01 |
| nlindblad | toma: yeah | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | that makes the system:/ pointing to $HOME wieh clicking on the home icon | 11:01 |
| nlindblad | toma: but there are some apps not in there, I guess | 11:01 |
| toma | nlindblad: example? | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | toma: the issue is that the "system" tab of the konqisidebar doesn't work | 11:02 |
| nlindblad | toma: well, maybe those were obsolete anyway | 11:02 |
| toma | Tonio_: ok, let me quickly glance at it | 11:02 |
| nlindblad | adept is not translated!! | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | toma: thaks a lot ;) | 11:03 |
| nlindblad | the tray icon says "no updates needed" | 11:03 |
| nlindblad | am I the only Swedish guy in here? | 11:04 |
| toma | nlindblad: ok, ask the swedish team what to do... it is a problem that kde already has translations, that means it will collide with any rosetta effords | 11:04 |
| nlindblad | toma: okey, I'll stick with the Swedish KDE translation team then | 11:05 |
| nlindblad | and focus on things you guys consider important | 11:05 |
| toma | well i dont know if kubuntu needs translations, but i guess you already looked at that. | 11:06 |
| nlindblad | toma: some apps, Adept for example | 11:06 |
| toma | isnt that in kde svn also? | 11:06 |
| nlindblad | well, it's not translated | 11:07 |
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| toma | http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/sv/playground-sysadmin/index.php | 11:08 |
| toma | Tonio_: why do you check if readURL() is empty and then insert readPath() ? | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | toma: because the home.desktop is the only one that doesn't have an URL entry, but it has a PATH one ;) | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | system.desktop or trash.desktop have an URL one | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | toma: this is to patch the home part only | 11:15 |
| toma | ah ok... | 11:16 |
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| kwwii | night all | 11:25 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii: nite :) | 11:36 |
| toma | Tonio_: this is the failure: | 11:42 |
| toma | the sidebar requests the contents of system:/ | 11:42 |
| toma | it expects entries back in the form system:/bla, system:/foo | 11:43 |
| toma | but it now gets back file:///home/bla | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | toma: I have seen that ;) | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | toma: are you able to provide a patch for this ? | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | toma: I personnaly can't | 11:44 |
| toma | hmm, but it should get system:/home back in that stage | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | toma: either in fact | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | that system section isn't widely used I think (at least less than the systemapplet) | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | I don't mind if system:/home is used there | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | toma: of course the best would be that it accepts /home/foo in the first place :) | 11:46 |
| toma | Tonio_: yeah, but i dont think that is possible | 11:46 |
| toma | of course anything is possble... | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | toma: hehe ;) do what you think is the most possible ;) | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | toma: the only important thing is that systemapplet uses $home and konqsidebar doesn't crash ;) | 11:49 |
| toma | Tonio_: i'm not able to fix this issue easily | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | toma: know someone that can deal with it ? | 12:00 |
| toma | Tonio_: also i think it should be fixed in a more generic way | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | toma: yes but that is a hudge work.... | 12:00 |
| toma | yes. | 12:00 |
| toma | it sucks, i agree | 12:01 |
| toma | im surprised your patch works that good | 12:02 |
| toma | maybe you should remove system from the sidebar, i dont thing that is a great loss | 12:02 |
| toma | good nite | 12:03 |
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