[12:03] allee: svg and looks much better [12:03] while ressembling a lot [12:03] no ? === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:04] allee: i can send it to you, but i dont feel like working on digikam at this moment, I only maintain the parts i wrote of course. === robotgeek tests posting to pastebin script. [12:04] I just turned 32 - so I can invite you for virtual beer... ;-) [12:05] congrats Lure [12:05] and NM from cvs works ;-) [12:05] Congrats, Lure [12:05] toma: 'k. No problem. If you find one send it. [12:05] awesome! [12:05] Lure: Next week I will invite you to a virtual beer for my 32 bday;-) [12:06] hunger: great! [12:06] Tonio_: feel free to use it, but is it worth later merging efforts? (mhhmm, a sf.net bug needs to be filed too) [12:07] allee: well, it is not complicated to do ;) not a lot of efforts ;) [12:07] Tonio_: then go ahead :) [12:08] allee: uploading to :smtp now. [12:08] Lure: hey, hey congrats! [12:09] allee: thanks! [12:09] (everyone seems to be able to 'upload' something, just adjusting my language here) [12:09] lol [12:10] toma: hint: ask for a revu account. So you can upload too:) [12:11] haha, nooo, that will create expectations ;-) [12:11] toma: btw did you hear back from codeine upstream about you media: patch? === allee hides because he had no time to try patch yet === allee blushes [12:12] haha [12:12] no, i did not hear back [12:12] he writes on his website 1.0.0 is final, so im not sure it will be accepted [12:13] I sent him 2 or 3 mails about other stuff. Ditto: no response [12:13] and i dont think my lib compiles <3.5, so might need some more work [12:13] toma: but he promounces usability. And media: support is all about usability [12:13] is it in kubuntu? [12:13] then we can patch it here, instead of upstream [12:14] yes and no. I'm still checking ... [12:14] toma: of course I could add the patch. Just a lack of time (/me feels guilty again) [12:15] allee: if it is on alioth, I can take care of it if that is what you mean [12:15] allee: yes, it's in alioth [12:17] allee: i can add it, but we need some testers then, can we arrange an upload to experimental in that case? [12:18] maybe switch to #debian-qt-kde? [12:19] toma: it's not debian yet and waiting for NEW is no good idea. We can upload to REVU and/or my private repo [12:19] toma: you have no priv apt repo yet? [12:20] no. [12:21] I'll check that codeine in kubuntu and alioth match and tag it. === allee has given up to do paid-work and switches to kubuntu-mode ;) [12:22] ok, i will work on medialib soon, i comitted it to kdesvn btw [12:22] paid-work is so eightees.... [12:30] toma: any response about medialib from other kde devels? [12:30] nope [12:32] but that is ok. I can put it into digikam when it is working 100%. Although we need to decide&discuss which part we need in digiKam... [12:33] i think access like codeine will be enough & we should forget about a menu.. Media uses a few backends hal, fstab, etc. It is difficult to have it correct at all times [12:33] allee: I didn't though about that before, but is there a way to add png icons without modofying the tarball ? [12:34] ^^ [12:34] Tonio_: uudecode it [12:34] toma: 1) plugin camera and get an entry in media action dialog (+ raise, change desktop, etc if digikam is running) 2) umount in digikam menu 3) whatever you like to add === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] toma: so uuencoding them, and uudecoding them while building ? nice idea ;) [12:35] Tonio_: + sharutils build-dep [12:35] Tonio_: yes, indeed. Do not forget to add uudecode as a dependency else build will fail for the other platforms [12:35] he [12:36] toma: of course :) === allee remembered the BTBFS too :) [12:36] FTBFS that is [12:36] ;-) [12:37] allee: sounds doable. I've compiled my kdelibs wrongly, so i'm seeing some problems now when hal is not used. [12:37] first i want to finish the kdelibs logrotate patch for kabc file loss... [12:38] toma: I tought that's fixed? Or do you mean automaticly-copy-last-on-zero-backup-if-kabc-file-is-empty? [12:38] s/on/non/ [12:39] yes, that one, a saner backup strategy and restore it automatically when it is nuked [12:40] time for bed - good night everybody [12:40] it's being reviewed now, hope to get it in kdesvn before 3.5.2 [12:40] nite Lure [12:40] nite [12:41] allee: i'm in doubt about kipi, the new htmlexport is something which should be good for dapper as well. [12:42] toma: have you tried it? (again I had no time yet) [12:43] allee: yes, i played with it for a few seconds. I think it is ok. But I'll look into it further when there is interest [12:43] toma: question is if htmlgallery replacement can be seen as fixes-several-bugfix and not as new-feature [12:44] toma: if it's good we can always put it in my repo and upload to debian [12:44] true, but the old one is not removed, so in fact it is a new feature. [12:44] but it is a lot better than the buggy export [12:44] toma: the patch that add htmlgallery will remove imagegallery too [12:45] sure? [12:45] toma: yeah, you (or we) are doing the patch. So why not? imagegallery is buggy. So if there a better alternative. [12:46] yes of course. [12:47] toma: ah, I remember you keep discuss in mpeg decoder bug report. Is there anything to do for debian/kubuntu [12:48] hmm, someone comitted a fix in svn for that [12:48] im not into the details though [12:48] I never used this plugin. Did you try it? [12:48] no, never [12:48] :) [12:48] kipi should be released upstream, but nobody will do that [12:49] alioth already contains a very big branch pull [12:49] maybe i should do that, but it has no advantages from the kubuntu/debian side. [12:50] if this get's too messy we can create your own rc1+svnYYYMMDd tarball [12:50] good idea [12:51] but I followed kde-imaging only marginally this year so I don't know if other plugins got 'experimental' patches [12:52] i remember only simpleviewer, but we can check the archives. [12:52] toma: this is in bigpatch AFAIR [12:52] yes, afair as well [12:56] i see nothing obvious in the archives since the simpleviewer patch which we did not mention yet [12:59] allee: hmmm, was your docbook commit correct? you changed your name recently? [01:00] oh, did I reverse apply. checking ... [01:05] toma: thx for noticing. this last minute change did not find it's way into dapper. I'll redo [01:07] np [01:08] ok, i'll reread this tomorrow to find my new todo-list, sleep for now. night allee [01:09] toma: wait a bit [01:09] k [01:09] toma: should I apply your patch to codeine (in your name) or do you wnat to do it? [01:10] feel free... [01:10] 'k [01:11] can i go to bed now? [01:15] ok [01:15] bye === toma is now known as toma_ [01:19] toma_: oh, sorry. Yes of course :) === allee blushes again === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee whines [03:43] dont know *what* it is about my wireless card, but i think my computer hates it.. === hendry [n=hendry@219.252.91.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel === richard [n=richard@c-67-182-248-237.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] Anyone here can help? [03:45] richard: no, not until you ask your question. [03:46] I've got Wifi problems with Kubuntu Dapper 5. Same setup works flawlessly with Ubuntu Dapper 5 [03:46] Seems I can't enbale the configuration . . . .keeps disabling itself and will not allow configuration. . .. [03:47] oh...that... [03:47] does it crash when you hit configure as well? [03:47] Yes [03:47] What is it that Ubuntu does right that Kubuntu can't get right? [03:47] solution is weird - seems to be "get your card working via the command line, then it configures fine by GUI" [03:48] What would I need to do at the command line? [03:48] !wifi [03:48] hmm....no ubotu [03:49] richard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto [03:50] OK I'll give them a look see. . .. it seems everyone Kubuntu release has given me this problems. Ubuntu works flawlessly with all releases. . ... [03:50] Thanks for your help [03:50] ubuntu has it's problems too - just see the network manager :P [03:51] Thing is it finds my Wifi card and sets everything up effortlessly for Internet connection. . . === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/ [06:26] who creates these ISOs? [06:26] why, is it cause they are slightly over size? [06:26] hendry: Riddell, i think [06:27] Riddell: are you about? [06:27] he'll be asleep [06:27] for a while [06:27] what tz is he on? [06:27] UK [06:28] is I want a package list for kubuntu dist. where do i find it? [06:28] packages.ubuntu.org [06:28] Hobbsee: that did't work for me [06:28] packages.ubuntu.org [06:28] might be .com [06:29] Hobbsee: ok [06:29] hendry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-powerpc.list [06:29] how do I know which packages are in Kubuntu? [06:30] robotgeek: oh. is that it? [06:30] this ISO is built with at list like that? [06:30] hendry: one sec, hold on [06:31] hendry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.list a list like that [06:32] where is stuff like /isolinux /dists and /preseed kept [06:33] hendry: that will be in the iso. i am not sure, sorry [06:33] hendry: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/kubuntu-dapper/ [06:34] hendry: that's you wanna [06:35] freeflying: they're design docs [06:35] useful === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb1l189.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad missed the only bus [09:48] yay! A day off! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] nlindblad: =) [10:02] nlindblad: I bet that was "accident" [10:02] it really was [10:03] you must be very "sorry" [10:03] ;) [10:03] today was gonna be the day I told that girl how I felt about her [10:03] hehe [10:04] s/felt/feel/g === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad is thinking about doing a hackergotchi [10:38] ? [10:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackergotchi [10:40] aah === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] I wonder... should I be mean or not [10:48] ? [10:48] in #kubuntu [10:48] I feel bad, nanananana [10:49] oh [10:50] oh well, more pills -> === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] see you all in the meeting tomorrow [12:31] hope i'll be awake! [12:35] anyone using bluetooth with KDE? [12:41] nlindblad: yes. But only with ISDN and mouse [12:45] okey [12:47] night all...see you at 7am my time, 20.00 UTC [12:47] Hobbsee: night [12:47] oh, hey... Lure - robotgeek mentioned that you'd done some work with knetworkmanager [12:47] how far did you get? [12:48] Hobbsee: NM works for me (with ipw2200), knetworkmanager have still compilation issues [12:48] I will update my wiki page with progress [12:48] what problems with compilation? [12:48] Hobbsee: that's really early :( [12:48] knetworkmanager does not have SVN/CVS repository, therefore I am using snapshot published in blog on Mar 11 [12:48] allee: 7am? yeah, it is rather [12:48] Lure: yep, i saw, i tried that too [12:49] dbus header files do not match the expected - maybe it is Suse vs. Ubuntu issue (as dbus is in heavy development) [12:49] yep, that sounds familiar === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Dapper delayed || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thurs, 16th March - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- be there! That's in less than 12 hours! [12:50] good think is that ipw2200 will get updated soon in Ubuntu, therefore one dependacy less [12:50] (still many to overcome) :-( [12:51] Hobbsee: yay! [12:51] I suc [12:51] *suck [12:51] hehe [12:51] I feel guilty about missing that bus [12:51] Lure: it seems to mostly work with ndiswrapper - seems pretty buggy though - sometimes doesnt connect === Hobbsee suspects she should hand out her mobile number so someone can call to wake her up in the morning hehe [12:52] she?? [12:53] nlindblad: yes [12:53] cool [12:54] night all... [01:14] its been awhile since i used debian reportbug, how am i supposed to include a patch? do you just stick it in the body of the message? [01:15] ah ok you need to specify it as an option [01:15] oh no actually "a" [01:15] ignore my ramblings, sorry === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:22] Riddell: ping? [02:22] Riddell: want to make a list of things that we can still work on in the time left? [02:24] kwwii: ok [02:24] kwwii: dapper is delayed by the way, so plenty time [02:25] Riddell: cool :-) erm, I mean...too bad it is delayed :-) [02:26] is it ok in malone to file a bug that is in debian BTS? [02:26] seaLne: yes [02:27] thought so [02:27] thanks [02:30] dapper delayed?? Why? [02:34] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperArtworkTodo [02:35] anyone with artwork ideas they'd like kwwii to work on please add to that page [02:36] Riddell: why is it delayed? === kwwii bookmarks that page :-) [02:37] nlindblad: order of the sabdfl [02:38] okey === Huahua_ [n=hua_@221.172.49.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell adds example content to kwwii's list === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-250.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] Riddell: should we at least replace the help header pics? [03:13] and what does "example content" mean? [03:13] templates and such? [03:14] example-content is a package, with random bits of clipart and files [03:14] some of the files have an ubuntu theme, so they should be changed to kubuntu [03:14] ah-ha, gotcha [03:14] changing help header pics always seems like more bother than it's worth, means changing it in several places [03:14] we can put the svg logos from the new work [03:15] put on wiki? certainly can [03:15] yeah...but the header pics as they are now are really more fitting to the older desktop/theme [03:15] we might add it as optional [03:15] or "if time allows" [03:16] if you think the help stuff could do with changing then we can do that, but I don't want to spend much time on it. and for some reason the build system for the help stuff always ends up taking lots of time [03:17] kwwii: apparantly there's a video in example context that is a recorded desktop session, we should try and get a kubuntu version === Lure [n=admin@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] I know exactly what you mean - I still have nightmares about theming the help system [03:18] is it a screen capture? [03:18] no idea, havn't seen it [03:18] or a real video of someone using a computer? [03:19] I'll check it out [03:22] ok...I added the help stuff to the wiki === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61836.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] oh wow...example content is full of ubuntu stuff [03:35] iiwwk! [03:35] and no edubuntu [03:35] where? [03:37] example-content [03:37] and the video is a screen capture [03:38] hmm [03:38] I don't get it [03:38] but also, I'm known to be slow [03:39] it's a package, with artwork, etc...from ubuntu and a few kubuntu - nothing to worry about :-) [03:40] hmm [03:40] and when I install it, I can check content by... [03:42] looking in /usr/share/ [03:44] yay! [03:44] ok, checking -> [03:44] I mean installing :p === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink just made is first upload to main :D === nlindblad congratulates raphink for his brave sacrifice [05:12] haha :) [05:12] just fixed the k3bsetup bug :) [05:12] meh [05:13] hehe :) [05:13] I should probably learn C/C++ and howto use the KDE-libs with Python (that I know fairly good) [05:14] bughunting isn't that fun if you can't solve it [05:14] raphink: ooh? [05:14] well there was no need for C/C++ knowledge to fix thiis one at least ;) [05:15] really? [05:15] Riddell: it was caused by the kubuntu_01_hide_k3bsetup.diff patch [05:15] quite logivally [05:15] NoDisplay=true prevented it from working in kcmshell [05:15] tried the wireless lan assistant last night, worked ok except it didn't get me an ip address via dhcp, had to do a sudo dhclient eth1 [05:15] funnily enough [05:15] Riddell: so I removed this [05:15] and changed the Categories fields instead [05:15] so it doesn't appear in the K Menu [05:15] but works in kcmshell [05:15] :) [05:16] (tested it of course) [05:16] raphink: what did you change categories to? [05:16] Riddell: I took the same as userconfig.desktop [05:17] of course, so simple when you know how :) [05:17] top stuff raphink [05:17] Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system; [05:17] :) [05:17] heh [05:17] raphink: yay! [05:17] raphink: do you have main upload yet? [05:17] Riddell: i think this desktop should also be installed in /usr/share/applications/kde instead of /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System as it is now [05:17] but that's for another update [05:18] Riddell: yep, it's my first upload [05:18] and it was just accepted :) [05:18] so it worked :) [05:19] look on dapper-changes :) [05:19] poke upstream to make them use XDG menus, there's limited point in us doing it [05:20] hmmm [05:20] well upstream regarding the package is debian imo [05:20] I closed the malone bug [05:20] and filed the patch to the kde bts and debian bts [05:20] since debian merged this patch some time ago and since then has been having the same bug [05:21] bad thing is that the DD applied the patch instead of using it in rules [05:21] so he'll have to -R it before applying mine [05:21] bt not my fault if he can't use correct patch systems ;) [05:21] I'm patching the source, not the patched package ;) === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-238-209.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] hi === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:16] there's a bug in the amarok 1.4 beta2 package which shows the splash screen even if you disable it in the options. Since this was working fine with previous beta package I assume the bug it's in the package, but I could be completely wrong :) [07:17] kmon: that doesn't sound like a packaging bug, try complaining in #amarok [07:17] ok [07:17] nooooo [07:17] Tm_T: hmm? [07:17] nothing =) [07:18] I'm just one of #amarok actives =) [07:19] kmon: there you go, Tm_T will solve all your problems :) === Tm_T hides [07:20] we do actually turn the splash screen off by default in kubuntu, so it's possible that messes with things, I don't see how though [07:20] let's see [07:20] I compile amaroK from svn so, now we see if it's package or not [07:25] Riddell: markey on #amarok says it's very likely a packaging error... [07:26] Tm_T: ok [07:26] kmon: just you wait [07:26] Tm_T: ok, thanxs [07:29] hah! [07:31] Riddell: doesn't happen in non-Kubuntu environment, only in Kubuntu ;) [07:31] I blame... you! [07:32] ] ;= === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] there's Qt4 in Ubuntu repositories, right? And I can run Qt4 apps in Kubuntu, right? [08:25] Tm_T: iirc you cannot have qt3 and qt4 installed at the same time === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:43] raphink: I can, and I think I do have [08:44] apt:/show?libqt4-gui [08:44] that's installed in my system [08:44] "Qt 4 core GUI functionality runtime library" [08:45] that for example [08:47] hmm, I think that answer to my question [08:54] yes, qt 3 and qt 4 are fine together [08:57] ok [08:57] I thought so === Tm_T should compile some KDE trunk stuff [08:58] kmon, Tm_T: try with kubuntu-default-settings removed [08:59] Riddell: in 10min (when this track ends) === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] MEETING! [09:02] tsk, no jpatrick [09:03] hmm [09:03] I'm coming [09:04] kmon: ping, #ubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:05] Hobbsee! [09:05] meeting [09:05] hey Riddell! [09:05] going [09:06] Riddell: i actually made it this time, hehe === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:11] Riddell: argh! help! i'm not used to bringing up points in meetings lol! [09:12] Hobbsee: =) [09:12] :P [09:12] atleast I'm not the only one ;) [09:13] hehe [09:13] Tm_T: thank goodness this isnt the CC meeting or something! [09:13] haha [09:13] yeah, you can totally ignore this meeting ;) === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] hey jpatrick [09:14] hi Hobbsee [09:15] jpatrick: meeting in #ubuntu-meeting [09:15] I know [09:15] ok :) [09:16] what did I miss? [09:18] me === bkjones [n=bkj@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:32] hi jpatrick [09:32] hey nlindblad [09:32] should I join the meeting? [09:32] nlindblad: sure :) [09:32] nlindblad: you _have_ to [09:32] oh [09:32] why? [09:36] because I say so [09:36] ;) [09:37] okey [09:37] :D === Tm_T is Napoleon [09:40] of course you are... === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek sees that "change desktop background" has gone from right click menu [10:07] good night comrades [10:07] robotgeek: Configure Desktop... [10:08] Riddell: just that i have to change in Guide :) [10:08] kwwii: ping. what timezone are you in? [10:08] central europe [10:09] hmmm...ok... [10:09] you? [10:10] AEST - aussie time [10:10] it's 8,10 now [10:10] am [10:12] ouch, now that is a time difference [10:12] so we'll meet every morning :-) [10:12] kwwii: no....i wont be awake [10:12] i'm at uni in the mornings, too [10:12] lol [10:13] but there's some overlap at night. [10:13] yeah, I often stay up pretty late [10:26] *sigh* === bkjones looks for "all-singing-all-dancing" option in kde setup [10:31] bkjones: in regards to what? [10:32] Got a new machine and want to see if turning on all the effects will still bog it down like it used to :) [10:32] isn't there the bling-o-meter thingy [10:32] whats is called again [10:32] dunno - I like bling-o-meter, though. [10:33] *looks at time* [10:33] I thought there was some slider thingy like that. [10:33] bye. [10:33] oh crud, i'd better get going if i want to make it to uni on time today... [10:33] Hobbsee: have a nice day [10:34] will do ;) [10:34] Riddell: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1868 [10:34] i'd take my laptop in, but it doesnt connect === toma is thinking about a reply [10:35] toma: yeah, he's getting quite competitive is our beineri [10:35] raphink: can you point me to the info for getting my broadcom chip up on my ppc laptop? [10:35] Riddell: just found out my k3b patch also turns on the K3B module in systemsettings :D [10:35] Riddell: yeah, i saw hime beating on gnome yesterday iirc [10:35] kwwii: huh? [10:36] erm....or maybe it was someone else :-) [10:36] I guess so [10:36] I don't know what you're talking about [10:36] although I'm on a ppc, too [10:36] hehe [10:36] the wlan card [10:36] raphink: hmm, it will do that. try and edit /etc/xdg/menus/system-settings.menu to fix it [10:37] Riddell: why? [10:37] raphink: I would love to have kinfocenter & ksystemlog on systemsettings as well [10:37] Riddell: it's good to be able to set K3B in systemsettings, no? [10:37] kmon: kinfocenter is not a kcmshell module imo [10:37] it's a standalone app [10:37] raphink: no, we should need to change anything, it should just work [10:37] shouldn't [10:38] Riddell: there, just what I said :) [10:38] raphink: oh, I see... pitty [10:38] Riddell: I just said k3b setup works in systemsettings now [10:38] it wouldn't show up before [10:38] as it should have [10:38] raphink: we don't want it to show up, there shouldn't be a need to have to set up k3 [10:38] hmmm ok [10:39] :s [10:40] then I'll have to change it ;) [10:43] hmmm [10:43] doesn't seem to work [10:44] I guess I could get more involved in translation [10:44] but I'm not sure whether my language is good enough [10:49] what are your opinions on this? [10:50] raphink: did you ever do that MP3 .desktop file for adept installer? [10:51] hmm no [10:51] Tonio_: can you send me your patch and show me your problem? [10:51] I didn't because there were issues with it [10:51] didn't go further [10:53] Riddell: ok my fix is removing X-KDE-settings-system; from the Categories [10:53] so it won't show up in systemsettings [10:53] it's something I've added actually and shouldn't have [10:53] raphink: won't it then show up in the k-menu? [10:54] let me check [10:54] I don't think so [10:54] if I keep Qt;KDE; [10:54] only [10:54] I don't add System; [10:54] no it doesn't show [10:55] I just have Categories=Qt;KDE; [10:55] yeah, that should be fine, it needs Core; to show in the top level [10:55] and it works [10:55] ok, sorted [10:55] so I'll do that [10:55] hmm [10:55] should I try to move the .desktop to /usr/share/applications/kde too? [10:56] instead of /usr/share/applnk/Settings/System [10:56] some KDE apps are in need of Swedish translations [10:56] I'd be more than happy to help out [10:56] then please do :) [10:56] I will [10:57] but Rosetta only has GNOME apps atm [10:57] (mostly) [10:57] you can translate the pot files directly [10:57] raphink: no, poke upstream but it doesn't add anything [10:57] ok [10:58] raphink: the point of moving those files to use XDG is so they show up in gnome's app menu, but this isn't an app [10:58] so I'll just remove the X-KDE-settings-system; thingy [10:58] would be neat if kde-18ln would be in Rosetta! [10:58] toma: no pb ;) [10:59] nlindblad: for who? kbabel is much nicer to use then rosetta [10:59] toma: in a "non-collaborative" opinion ;) [11:00] toma: email for the patch ? [11:00] toma: okey so I'd just get in touch with the main translator and help the whole KDE project then? [11:00] Tonio_: tomalbers@kde.nl [11:00] nlindblad: for kde apps that is your only option [11:01] toma: email sent [11:01] toma: right [11:01] nlindblad: although sv has an impressive track record: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/sv/ [11:01] toma: I'll send a nice mail tomorrow asking if I could help out [11:01] Riddell: uploading new version that won't show in systemsettings [11:01] ;) [11:01] toma: yeah [11:01] that makes the system:/ pointing to $HOME wieh clicking on the home icon [11:01] toma: but there are some apps not in there, I guess [11:02] nlindblad: example? [11:02] toma: the issue is that the "system" tab of the konqisidebar doesn't work [11:02] toma: well, maybe those were obsolete anyway [11:02] Tonio_: ok, let me quickly glance at it [11:03] adept is not translated!! [11:03] toma: thaks a lot ;) [11:03] the tray icon says "no updates needed" [11:04] am I the only Swedish guy in here? [11:04] nlindblad: ok, ask the swedish team what to do... it is a problem that kde already has translations, that means it will collide with any rosetta effords [11:05] toma: okey, I'll stick with the Swedish KDE translation team then [11:05] and focus on things you guys consider important [11:06] well i dont know if kubuntu needs translations, but i guess you already looked at that. [11:06] toma: some apps, Adept for example [11:06] isnt that in kde svn also? [11:07] well, it's not translated === _human_blip_ [n=mike@mike.nelsonbay.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:08] http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/sv/playground-sysadmin/index.php [11:12] Tonio_: why do you check if readURL() is empty and then insert readPath() ? [11:14] toma: because the home.desktop is the only one that doesn't have an URL entry, but it has a PATH one ;) [11:15] system.desktop or trash.desktop have an URL one [11:15] toma: this is to patch the home part only [11:16] ah ok... === toma is now known as toma_ === toma_ is now known as toma [11:25] night all === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === toma is now known as toma_ === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma [11:36] kwwii: nite :) [11:42] Tonio_: this is the failure: [11:42] the sidebar requests the contents of system:/ [11:43] it expects entries back in the form system:/bla, system:/foo [11:43] but it now gets back file:///home/bla [11:43] toma: I have seen that ;) [11:43] toma: are you able to provide a patch for this ? [11:44] toma: I personnaly can't [11:44] hmm, but it should get system:/home back in that stage [11:45] toma: either in fact [11:45] that system section isn't widely used I think (at least less than the systemapplet) [11:45] I don't mind if system:/home is used there [11:46] toma: of course the best would be that it accepts /home/foo in the first place :) [11:46] Tonio_: yeah, but i dont think that is possible [11:47] of course anything is possble... [11:48] toma: hehe ;) do what you think is the most possible ;) [11:49] toma: the only important thing is that systemapplet uses $home and konqsidebar doesn't crash ;) [11:59] Tonio_: i'm not able to fix this issue easily [12:00] toma: know someone that can deal with it ? [12:00] Tonio_: also i think it should be fixed in a more generic way [12:00] toma: yes but that is a hudge work.... [12:00] yes. [12:01] it sucks, i agree [12:02] im surprised your patch works that good [12:02] maybe you should remove system from the sidebar, i dont thing that is a great loss [12:03] good nite