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| mjg59 | BenC: Hmm. When I end up rsyncing a huge pack file, should I be doing something else? | 02:28 |
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| infinity | Get more bandwidth? | 02:29 |
| mjg59 | Ah, it's just finished | 02:29 |
| mjg59 | fatal: Entry 'drivers/video/imacfb.c' would be overwritten by merge. Cannot merge. | 02:33 |
| mjg59 | Mm? How do I avoid that? | 02:33 |
| fbond|away | well, at least git is ideologically superior to other RCS's | 02:52 |
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| Mithrandir | BenC: unionfs bug. When casper does an mv /root/sbin/readahead-list /root/sbin/readahead-list.disabled, /sbin suddenly turns into mode 0700. | 11:01 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:07 |
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| Mithrandir | BenC: did you see my unionfs bug above? | 02:57 |
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| janimo | BenC: can you please revert the Radeon PCI id patch I suggested and it's in .17? While it makes 3D DRI work on said card it also sometimes causes X 99% cpu usage | 03:05 |
| janimo | and sometmes locks on resume | 03:06 |
| janimo | probbaly more that the ID pacth is needed (mesa,drm module) etc fixes which | 03:06 |
| janimo | are too much for dapper | 03:06 |
| janimo | sorry for not testing more thorougly before asking inclusion | 03:06 |
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| BenC | Mithrandir: yeah | 03:30 |
| BenC | janimo: please send me an email so I don't forget | 03:30 |
| janimo | BenC: ok, there are otther radeon IDs which seem to behave similarly and have bugs in malone.those may need to be reverted too | 03:31 |
| janimo | unless there's a way to blacklist them and not enable dri on them within X | 03:31 |
| janimo | I'll send the mail | 03:31 |
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| Mithrandir | BenC: running Ubuntu kernels on auric and vore? :-P | 03:54 |
| BenC | of course :) | 03:55 |
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| infinity | BenC: Seriously? | 04:20 |
| infinity | BenC: Did neuro have a fit about that? | 04:21 |
| Keybuk | Debian has run our Kernels for ages | 04:21 |
| Keybuk | like, 2 years | 04:21 |
| BenC | the sparc boxes were always running a custom kernel that I built | 04:22 |
| BenC | so using an ubuntu kernel really isn't much different :) | 04:22 |
| infinity | Fair enough. The hppa buildds are in a similar boat. | 04:23 |
| infinity | But that's more because lamont's only got time to focus on one kernel at a time. | 04:23 |
| infinity | (Actually the m68k buildd mostly run custom kernels by me too... I often wonder how many of the SCC arch kernels in Debian can do much more than run the installer) | 04:24 |
| BenC | I don't know what is all in the debian 2.6.15 sparc kernel, but all I know is that it's only a 9Meg image, and our sparc kernel is 14megs | 04:24 |
| infinity | s/buildd/buildds/ | 04:24 |
| BenC | I'm a little leary of that | 04:24 |
| infinity | BenC: Aren't you still, technically, a Debian sparc porter? Perhaps you should look at their kernels and make them suck less? | 04:25 |
| infinity | (And yes, I should do the same for Debian arches I care about, but I've always been a custom kernel guy on Debian...) | 04:25 |
| infinity | Never ran a distribution kernel until I started running Ubuntu on my laptop. | 04:25 |
| BenC | same here | 04:30 |
| BenC | I always ran custom kernels till I became the ubuntu-kernel-guy :) | 04:30 |
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| zul | heylo | 04:30 |
| BenC | I've been really disinterested in messing with debian stuff...I dropped my debian-sparc authorti a long time ago | 04:31 |
| BenC | my notification icon is telling me to reboot, and I'm not one to argue with widgets, so brb | 04:32 |
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| mxpxpod | BenC: are you still using bcm43xx on your laptop? | 04:45 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:45 |
| mxpxpod | do you still coax it into 11mbs? | 04:45 |
| mxpxpod | mb/s | 04:46 |
| BenC | I've been using 24M for awhile | 04:47 |
| BenC | haven't tried 54M again | 04:47 |
| mxpxpod | how about network-manager? | 04:48 |
| BenC | haven't tried that | 04:48 |
| mxpxpod | ok | 04:49 |
| zul | BenC: kyle did a presentation to my local lug on eficent use of git, ill put it up somewhere if you want | 05:00 |
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| janimo | zul, I'm interested in that too | 05:25 |
| janimo | all the tutorials I read so far are scary | 05:25 |
| janimo | if it were specifically written for the occasional ubuntu kernel contributor it would be even better | 05:25 |
| crimsun | the link to the tutorial on kernel.org/git and wiki.u.c/KernelGitGuide are good starters | 05:30 |
| crimsun | it's probably far easier if you set up a push server ; I have to use git-format-patch | 05:31 |
| janimo | crimsun, I find the commands very low level | 05:33 |
| janimo | I canot set upa push srever for bandwidth reasons | 05:33 |
| janimo | I could not find simple recepies like : cherrypick patch from given repo | 05:34 |
| janimo | those commit names are ugly. reminds me of tla frustrations of 2 years ago :) | 05:34 |
| crimsun | janimo: have you tried any of cogito, StGIT, etc.? | 05:34 |
| janimo | cogito I tried briefly | 05:35 |
| janimo | stgit no | 05:35 |
| janimo | crimsun, do you have 5 minutes now to tell me how you use git with alsa? | 05:37 |
| crimsun | sure | 05:37 |
| janimo | what I have now is git cloned ubuntu tree and ocasionally pull | 05:37 |
| janimo | and beneath same working dir git bracnhes | 05:37 |
| janimo | but from now on not much :) | 05:38 |
| janimo | do you keep all branches under the same directory? | 05:38 |
| crimsun | I generally don't worry about cwd at all | 05:38 |
| janimo | and swicth with gt checkout | 05:38 |
| crimsun | yep | 05:38 |
| crimsun | git branch foo && git checkout foo | 05:38 |
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| janimo | git checkout -b foo | 05:39 |
| janimo | :) | 05:39 |
| janimo | how do you pick pacthes from upstream | 05:39 |
| janimo | do you give the SHA ids? | 05:39 |
| crimsun | oh, I can't do that for ALSA | 05:39 |
| crimsun | for the HDA work in particular, I have to hand-merge | 05:40 |
| janimo | :( | 05:40 |
| janimo | is there some command line query on remote branches | 05:40 |
| janimo | say I want to know diff between ubuntu tree and dri tree for file radeon_dri.c | 05:40 |
| janimo | right now I go to gitweb on kernel.org | 05:41 |
| janimo | that's kind of slow | 05:41 |
| crimsun | hmm, why not just pull in the dri tree as a branch? | 05:41 |
| janimo | hmm, I should try that . I was not sure how many upstream branches I can have locally | 05:42 |
| janimo | I mean orig/masters | 05:42 |
| janimo | but since they all should use the same objects underneath it may make sense | 05:42 |
| janimo | ok so you do have alsa git pulled as a branch too? | 05:43 |
| crimsun | no, but that would probably make a lot of sense, eh? :) | 05:43 |
| janimo | :) | 05:43 |
| janimo | related: I assume you test your patches by building the kernel | 05:43 |
| janimo | how did you make it not take forever | 05:44 |
| janimo | I touched config/i386/xx.config.disabled | 05:44 |
| janimo | for all but one | 05:44 |
| janimo | but still seemed to build for hours and i had to stop | 05:44 |
| crimsun | I just rm the ones I don't need | 05:44 |
| janimo | last time I rm-d it did not make debs | 05:44 |
| janimo | cannot remember the errors | 05:44 |
| crimsun | oh, that's right, I remember why I don't have alsa git as a local branch | 05:45 |
| janimo | so just rm, no need to touch makefiles or rules? | 05:45 |
| crimsun | all devel work is done in cvs, and jaroslav pushes to git only occasionally | 05:45 |
| janimo | same for dri | 05:45 |
| janimo | so you actually take from cvs now? | 05:45 |
| crimsun | it's just much faster for me to trawl cvsweb and apply what's necessary | 05:45 |
| janimo | yeah | 05:46 |
| crimsun | nope, I don't touch Makefiles or rules | 05:46 |
| janimo | there must be a faster way that's why I think the tutorials are not telling us the whole story | 05:46 |
| crimsun | perhaps zul has pointers :) | 05:46 |
| janimo | yeah, I hope :) | 05:46 |
| janimo | do you also use a smaller config that makeallconfig I assume? | 05:47 |
| crimsun | nope, I use stock | 05:47 |
| janimo | oh, doesn;t it take ages to build? | 05:47 |
| crimsun | I have to make sure it at least builds on 686 | 05:47 |
| crimsun | oh yes, it takes a good long while | 05:47 |
| janimo | you make debs with debuild or just plain make the kernel | 05:48 |
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| crimsun | debs | 05:48 |
| janimo | debuild binary | 05:48 |
| janimo | ? | 05:48 |
| janimo | or full with clean and all that? | 05:49 |
| crimsun | just binary | 05:49 |
| janimo | thanks, I'll have to try the removal of config stuff | 05:49 |
| janimo | althoug it seems the .disabled suffix is the one checked for | 05:49 |
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| TMM | hi all! | 10:34 |
| TMM | to repost my question from both -devel and -server : | 10:34 |
| TMM | what would me the chances of getting iscsi support into the -server kernel before dapper releases? slim? extremely small? near-zero? :) it pretty much doesn't touch any files, it just adds a couple | 10:35 |
| TMM | I only today noticed it isn't in there, and, we (our company) wants to use more ubuntu, and it really should be there (r) I am working on packaging the userspace tools, and, I am using the suse sles9 patchesset as a basis, I can confirm that I am using these very same drivers in a couple of VERY large environments, and they have shown no sign of any breakage | 10:36 |
| TMM | a seperate -source file in universe would be pretty bad imho, even under control of m-a | 10:36 |
| TMM | I am willing to do any heavy-lifting that might be required btw | 10:42 |
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| TMM | I really need to go sleep now, if someone can help me, or wants more information or whatever please email me at hein-pieter.van.braam@ictivity.nl I basically know how to do the packaging, and have the equipment to test it all too. | 10:52 |
| TMM | thanks | 10:52 |
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| BenC | TMM: still around? | 11:27 |
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