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Kr4t05O.o12:00
Kr4t05Ack12:00
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wick2o3hello12:00
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cjmguitari partitioned 4 partitions on a 300 g12:00
wick2o3i have modifyed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf....ive added some more "modes" in each of the subsection "display"'s12:00
mar1usit's because your text is all _ up in this operating system..12:00
mar1usl1l1l1l112:00
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wick2o3yet i sitll only get one in the "Screen res selector"12:00
cjmguitar1 efx3 /root 1 efx3 /home 1 swap and 1 ntfs and the end of the drive for windows12:00
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aeolistmarlus, behave12:01
Kr4t05!nvidia12:01
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:01
wick2o3any suggestions? ive already googled my problem12:01
mar1usok, I'll get outta here.. and back into safe fuzzy windows12:01
anakronismar1us: bon voyage12:01
IdleOneKr4t05>  sudo apt-get -f install to fix broken packages12:01
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aeolistwick2o3, can you post it on pastebin? have you installed the nvidia/ati drivers? have you typed in the monitor's frequencies12:01
mar1us*warm fuzzy feeling windows..*12:01
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fiveironanyone?12:01
frank23!tell wick2o3 about fixres12:01
aeolistmarlus, it's you who's the loser here12:02
fiveironany idea why i might not be able to chmod on a mounted drive that is mounted rw12:02
fluxtcjmguitar, where did you put the / partition?12:02
aeolistsee if we care12:02
mar1usI know..12:02
wick2o3thank you frank2312:02
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cjmguitarfluxt: when i installed grub into my MBR it did nothing when i rebooted do you know why?12:02
mar1usgood nite winners...12:02
cjmguitarit ran the NTLDR and only allowed boot to windows12:02
fluxtcjmguitar, the only thing that comes to mind is wrong drive12:02
aeolistnow marlus is going to his windows friends and tell the that linux users are snobs12:03
bjornkriwell.12:03
bjornkrithey are12:03
bjornkriuh. we are12:03
cjmguitarin the install it specifically asked if i wanted to install grub to the mbr of my first partition on my irst drive12:03
nickrudbjornkri: speak for yourself12:03
fluxtcjmguitar, to see if it's on another drive you could try booting from the other drives first12:03
anakroniscjmguitar: set up your bios to read the first disk first?12:03
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cjmguitarok12:03
cjmguitarill try12:03
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Kr4t05Eek.12:03
fluxtbye bye sucker! :p12:04
bjornkriyeah yeah, didn't mean it. Just felt like the appropriate thing to say12:04
fluxthehehe12:04
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!lilo:*! Un utilisateur est en train de demander tout le monde de joindre #bashfr. Il n'est pas affili ce channel, dont le groupe (bash.fr) est en train de monter une organisation but non lucratif et de bouger sur son propre serveur. Veuillez nous faire savoir si vous voyez ce spammeur, et rappelez-vous que ce qu'il fait n'a pas l'aval des gens de bash.fr. Merci.12:04
!lilo:*! A user is wandering around spamming people to join #bashfr. He's not associated with the channel, whose group (bash.fr) is in the process of setting up a not-for-profit org and moving to their own server. Please let us know if you see the spammer, and be aware that his activities are unsanctioned by the bash.fr people. Thanks.12:04
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rukuarticAnyone know how to change a prog's nicevalue after its been executed?12:04
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OmegaAlphaanyone use NICOTINE for their P2P?12:04
fluxtrukuartic, renice12:04
nickrudbjornkri: well, <bjornkri> they are is not so far off, in practice :)12:05
rukuarticrenice, thanks fluxt12:05
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fluxtnpz12:05
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erUSULrukuartic, man nice12:05
Kr4t05I guess Dapper just won12:05
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erUSULrukuartic, man renice12:05
Kr4t05won't do it*12:05
bjornkrihehehe12:05
Kr4t05I knew I should have waited.12:05
bjornkriI mean, sure, there may be one or two of them12:05
Kr4t05:/12:05
servjew_ive used nicotine for p2p, it worked okay.12:05
_catoany gamers here? I have a strange problem with ut99: it seems to run to fast and with unregular speed12:05
servjew_will surely use it again :)12:06
rukuarticerUSUL: Thanks :)12:06
Kr4t05The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:06
Kr4t05  nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed12:06
majdhey, i'm following the http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 tutorial and i'm trying to install compiz (through synaptic) now as it was applying the changes, it gave me a message when it was "preparing for removal of linux-image-2.6.12-10-386" and it's asking me if i'm sure....am i?12:06
OmegaAlphaservjew_, you think its just okay thought? have you used something better? the reason why im asking is im using amule and its slow and hard to find what im looking for12:06
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fluxtmajd, gee don't think si12:07
OmegaAlphaservjew_, i d/led nicotine cause someoen recommended it in here and i guess I need GTK and Python installed before i can use it? is that true?12:07
IdleOnemajd>  join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !12:07
lupzis there12:07
lupza command line utility12:07
lupzto show desktop notifications ?12:07
servjew_OmegaAlpha: personally, for music files, i think its the best (nicotine) as far as things needed to run it, i dont know, i just installed it and it worked12:07
IdleOne!tell lupz  about enter12:08
majdummm...i pressed something when i was copying the message it gave me and it just got done applying the changes...it left me "E: linux-image-2.6.12-10-386: subprocess pre-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)12:08
majd"12:08
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OmegaAlphaservjew_, oh how about video files?12:08
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lupzIdleOne: ok but for the utility ?12:08
powdermajd, uh oh :(12:08
p01n7OmegaAlpha, even if python is not needed.. and oyu don't have it installed... INSTALL IT!12:08
servjew_OmegaAlpha, never had much luck with those on nicotine12:08
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nickrudmajd: the only time I ever saw that was when I hit ctl-c during an update12:08
IdleOnelupz>  utility to do what?12:08
nickrud*upgrade12:09
fluxtmajd, ? just to be sure, i'd check synaptic to see the package is installed, if not install it again12:09
p01n7OmegaAlpha, whats up, btw12:09
fluxtmajd, the linux kernel image that is12:09
lupzIdleOne: to show desktop notifications. i know exists a gnome-notify but i can't find it for ubuntu12:09
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OmegaAlphap01n7, whats good about having Python installed? i remember when using fluxbox that it was installed by default but i never used it12:09
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servjew_ok, i dont get it, ive went to my sources.list, uncommented all the repositories, updated, upgraded, did the gnome updates, still no mplayer of any sort exept the mozilla plugin12:09
OmegaAlphap01n7, whats up brother.. oh just working on the ol box.. and watching my Stargate show12:09
IdleOnelupz>  I have no idea how that would be done from terminal sorry :/12:10
nickrudservjew_: if you'd paste bin your /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll take a look12:10
p01n7OmegaAlpha, It's a great programming/scripting language.12:10
fiveironany idea why i might not be able to chmod on a mounted drive that is mounted rw12:10
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OmegaAlphap01n7, yes one that i need to learn lol12:10
majdfluxt, it shows up as "marked for removal" in synaptic12:10
majdand the compiz packages show up as "marked for install"12:10
nickrudfiveiron: if it's a native linux partition, do you have permissions for that?12:10
majdso i'm supposing nothing happened12:10
p01n7OmegaAlpha, It's easy. Just ahve it ready for when you are ready12:11
fiveironnickrud: its actually a fat32 partition12:11
fluxtmajd, did you quit synaptic and reload it?12:11
fluxtmajd, do this if not12:11
fiveironnickrud: it is writeable only by root it seems though12:11
nickrudfiveiron: then you cannot change individual permissions, fat doesn't support that12:11
majdok12:11
OmegaAlphap01n7, oh i guess i already have it.. python2.4... didnt even know .. its not listed in my damn GUI menu12:11
fiveironhrmrmrm12:11
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fiveironguess I'll just format this thing with msdos12:11
fiveiron:P12:11
nickrudfiveiron: see !mountwindows, there's some changes you can make to your /etc/fstab to allow anyone to write to the partition12:11
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nickrud!mountwindows12:11
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:11
fiveironoh12:12
p01n7OmegaAlpha, "which python" would hav elet you know if it's installed or not12:12
OmegaAlphado i have to make some kind of script to get programs to appear in the menu if they arent appearing.. and arent in the "add applications" program12:12
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fluxtmajd, i guess you could install your compiz package and if it does remove the kernel image you can (must) reinstall it12:12
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fiveironnickrud: thanks!12:12
Kr4t05frank23: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed12:12
nickrudfiveiron: yw12:12
fluxt!mountvax12:12
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt12:12
mar1uswonderful! The opera is up and running! Thanks for all help, and sorry for getting so bitchy12:12
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OmegaAlphap01n7, yeah i just tred installing python2.4 since i guess its the latest and i already had it..12:12
servjew_nickrud: ive put it up at http://noncompos.servebeer.com/sources.list12:12
nickrudsmrf, vax12:13
fluxtvms even12:13
richardi use komba2 to see share files in the sub network 192.168.2.*, how can i see other sub networks like 192.168.0.*12:13
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, i may be installing ubuntu again12:13
powdermarlus, lol welcome back12:13
mar1usthank you12:13
nickrudservjew_: lines 19 & 20, add multiverse to the end, that will give you access to mplayer12:13
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servjew_ah! thanks! :)12:14
p01n7OmegaAlpha, Mandrivia doesn't have the "open" feeling i like about debian any longer12:14
mar1usI'll try to behave now.. didn't know about that dpkg thing..12:14
OmegaAlphap01n7, oh with python you progam in terminal? not a fancy gui?12:14
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p2p2hello, are there any p2p tv clients that works under linux? something like tvkoo for windows12:14
cafuegoa fancy gui just slows the machine down12:14
OmegaAlphap01n7, oh really? well good toh ear.. now i can bother you more with problems i have once you get in installed lol12:14
frank23Kr4t05: maybe dapper is not consistent right now12:14
p01n7OmegaAlpha, Depends.. i use IDLE which is like a Python Shell.. then theres Eric.. which is a IDE12:14
fluxt!tell p2p2 about p2p12:14
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nickruda fancy gui makes a machine usable12:15
Kr4t05Alright.12:15
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Kr4t05Does anyone know how to reverse an upgrade?12:15
jkedapper didn't like my network cards, at least...12:15
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OmegaAlphawell once i learn the language the terminal will do.. im so used to the programming environment likes Borlands and Microsofts visual ones12:15
kill_switchs!12:15
p2p2fluxt i know about p2p downloading programs and such, im looking for a p2p-TV client tho12:15
p01n7OmegaAlpha, i may just have questions for you once i go back lol12:15
p01n7OmegaAlpha, Then you will like IDLE12:16
PolypterusHi. I can't log into CUPS in Ubuntu. I use "root" and its password. Is there a special way to log into CUPS with Ubuntu?12:16
mikeazorinFixed My Hardrive12:16
fluxtp2p2, Should it run on PAL or SECAM televisions?12:16
frank23Kr4t05: you mean back to breezy or for a specific package?12:16
p01n7You probbaly alreayd have it installed12:16
p2p2fluxt pal12:16
OmegaAlphap01n7, hehe  hopefully i could help you.. ive learned alot.. I finally got my VNC working which is awesome! now im gooing to learn the ssh stuff and tunneling12:16
p2p2or wel as long as it runs on the pc itself it doesnt matter fluxt12:16
fluxtp2p2, well PAL televisions come with inbuilt elf compatibility so you're set12:17
OmegaAlphap01n7, IDLE... does it take up alot of space?12:17
p2p2fluxt, i think we are taslkinga bout two different things here12:17
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, no.12:17
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nickrudPolypterus: to use the web interface: sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart12:17
richardhow can i scan my windows network?12:17
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stewskihow is beagle running under dapper?12:18
Kr4t05frank23: Back to Breezy.12:18
p2p2im looking for a program, a client program, like tvkoo.exe for windows. that allows me to view tv streams streamed via p2p  .. not like downloadng via emule or bittorrent etc12:18
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OmegaAlphap01n7, cool ill get it now... my problem is right now.. i can never think of anything to program... like programming in school was easy. they told us what to program hah. i cant think independently on what i want to do with it... i still need to learn to think with it and linux12:18
Polypterusnickrud: thank you very much mate!12:19
mikeazorinthe package that was installing while my hard drive errored is perl-modules, and now it's clogging up apt-get and dpkg. removing perl-modules removes a huge amount of apps, many which look neccassary. what do i do?12:19
frank23Kr4t05: I don't know how exactly. It's not easy anyways. This is why there are warnings about upgrading to dapper before release. If you wait a few days, maybe it will work again though in dapepr12:19
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, You iwll always find something.. wether it be taking a a string containing a directory and file and stripping the file.. or building your own chat-like program.. just for fun when your bored12:19
nickrudOmegaAlpha: take a look around sourceforge.net, there's lots of projects that can use some help12:19
Kr4t05frank23. Ok.12:19
fluxtp2p2, have you tried wine?12:19
fluxtubotu, tell p2p2 about wine12:19
p2p2yes12:19
p2p2ive tried wine12:19
fluxtoh12:19
p2p2and cedega12:19
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p2p2program crashes and burns under both12:20
Blippep2p2, peercast?12:20
nickrudPolypterus: one of the first things I researched about ubuntu :)12:20
p2p2peercast is a SERVER software ... not for viewinv afaik12:20
majdhmm....synaptic is having problems with the backports.org repo12:20
p2p2errr i meant blippe12:20
Polypterusnickrud: by the way, do you know why the canon ip1500 driver isn't working for canon mp110 in ubuntu?12:20
OmegaAlphap01n7, yeah i tried thinking of stuff back in the days.. the only thing i made was an easy program for my highschool that allows you to enter students information like name addy classes etc lol after that i made a shitty hangman game12:21
OmegaAlphanickrud, thanks for the link12:21
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nickrudPolypterus: not a clue, I only buy hp12:21
Polypterusnickrud: I know it's probably a long shot, but no harm in asking12:21
Polypterusnickrud: ok no worries12:21
OmegaAlphap01n7, a chat program.. hmm sounds interesting.12:21
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nickrudPolypterus: try looking at linuxprinting.org, they are usually pretty up to date12:21
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p01n7OmegaAlpha, indeed.. maybe once you learn python we can do one together12:21
p01n7OmegaAlpha, or an IRC client12:22
p01n7OmegaAlpha, or anything12:22
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OmegaAlphap01n7, itll be nice to write a program that puts all the software downloaded on Gnome's menu... liek the ones i downloaded arent appearing lol like games and what not only certain programs appear12:22
_sHaDen8 all12:22
richard i use komba2 to see share files in the sub network 192.168.2.*, how can i see other sub networks like 192.168.0.*12:22
Stormx2majd: What problems?12:22
powderOmegaAlpha, the Debian menu does that :)12:22
nickrudOmegaAlpha: I gotta secret: sudo aptitude install menu-xdg && killall gnome-panel   It's amazing what shows up under Applications12:23
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everton137Hi, can someone help me with this text, about open a port for webcam? What does it mean open your router web-based configuration? Her is text: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#firewalled12:23
OmegaAlphanickrud, what does that exactly do? im installing it now12:23
majdStormx2, when i first load synaptic, i get this: You have 1 broken package on your system!12:23
majdUse the "Broken" filter to locate it. Then when i press ok, i get this: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backports.org stable/ucf Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_stable_ucf_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:23
nickrudOmegaAlpha: it creates a12:23
majdbtw, i can't find the broken package :(12:24
p01n7OmegaAlpha, i would think it searches $PATH for unlisted apps in the menu.. then adds them12:24
Stormx2majd: Was it working before?12:24
nickrud'Debian' submenu, which has everything in the main menus, plus almost everything that isn't12:24
mar1usbut.. how does one install non-deb installation files, like bin or exe files?12:24
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majdStormx2, up until i tried to install compiz....yeah12:24
OmegaAlphasure takes a while to installl ol12:24
caglar is it possible to use pc-to-phone with ekiga using another provider?12:24
nickrudp01n7: no, it adds stuff that have legacy debian menu definitions12:24
OmegaAlphashit12:24
erUSULmar1us, you do not12:24
OmegaAlphasomething is wrong12:24
trentWhat is a good media player on gnome that isn't crappy like totem?12:24
mar1usoh..12:24
OmegaAlphamy panels dissappeared12:24
fluxtrichard, netmask12:25
nickrudOmegaAlpha: they'll be back12:25
trentSomething nice, solid, navigatable, and decent.12:25
Stormx2majd: Go post your sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl, it may be that or the repo may just be down12:25
p01n7nickrud, that was just off the top of my head12:25
OmegaAlphaoh their they are.. the lil buggers12:25
davidkwhy is there no xorg.conf manpage in dapper? (or which package have I failed to install?)12:25
nickrudp01n7: :)12:25
jkeHow would you move some 10 giga data between 2 computers? they are on the same lan. The will be running the livecd version of breezy, the other is running gentoo, can't remember if it have ane graphical installed... fps, shh or?12:25
powdertrent, there aren't any ;)12:25
OmegaAlphai was like code red! code red!12:25
mar1usis there no installationprogram that can help me?12:25
trentpowder, There has to be..12:25
trentLol12:25
trentok not gnome in general but will work for gnome.12:25
nickrudtrent: I use xine-ui for dvd's & the like, very workmanlike12:25
richardfluxt: netmask is a command?12:25
fluxtno12:26
Stormx2trent: Audacious is a brilliant media player for gnome12:26
powdertrent, personally i am using xmms for audio and vlc for video12:26
nickrudOmegaAlpha: killall should have been a clue , lol12:26
OmegaAlphanickrud, wow thisi s awesome12:26
fluxtrichard, there is some way in gnome i'm sure to edit the network mask of your network config12:26
p01n7rm -fr * is a command?12:26
Stormx2trent: Audacious is a continuation of the BMP project, which is basicly XMMS + Modern-ness (XMMS is old as hell)12:26
p01n7dont do that people12:26
trentbecause totem isn't doing it for me, has anyone had that problem?12:26
majdStormx2, how do i load up sources.list? i'm in /etc/apt/12:26
rukuarticAnyone have links on how to get a Virgin Pulse mp3 player working in linux? Or just any tutorials in general?12:26
OmegaAlphanickrud, yeah i seen that i was like hmm whats goin to happen12:26
Stormx2p01n7: Not one that I would recommend12:26
nickrudp01n7: yeah, one we don't mention on a channel a newbie might see12:26
fluxtp01n7, seems it is a command12:27
powderyes, I would be using Audacious too if there was a working wavpack plugin :(12:27
p01n7thought about it.. after i said it "think before you speak" i guess12:27
Stormx2majd: gedit sources.list? (if your in terminal)12:27
p01n7fluxt, lol12:27
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OmegaAlphaBRB phone call12:27
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trentStormx2, Do you know where I can find a download for Audacious?12:27
majdStormx2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031212:28
fluxtrichard, change your netork mask to 255.255.0.0 or something12:28
erUSULjke, with nc in receiving side 'nc -l -p 1234 | tar xvzfp -' in sending side  'tar czfp - /some/dir | nc -w 3 othermachine 1234'12:28
nickrudtrent: plain old totem sucks ; try totem-xine , mplayer , and xine-ui See !restricted for more info on that12:28
fluxti'm so slow12:28
nickrud!restricted12:28
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:28
fluxti shouldn't be doing this today12:28
wick2o3thank god for vplayer being free...man i love those guys :)12:28
richardfluxt: in this network every ips use the same netmask12:28
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jkeerUSUL, can i use nc from the liveCD?12:28
jke(its the sending machine running from the liveCD)12:29
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fluxtrichard, well if you can't see the other pcs, i'm guessing its the mask12:29
mar1usied: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/manindex4.html12:29
mar1usjfried opera is very cool ;-)12:29
mar1usk31th wtf this ubuntu install is wacky12:29
mar1uscjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.12:29
mar1usk31th it wont load amarok for a stART12:29
mar1uscjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.12:29
mikeazorini changed all my sources.list from breezy to dapper, and now i think it's reinstalling EVERY package. i keep things up to date, are there just a lot of changes?12:29
mar1usnickrud Phoul: can you paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin?12:29
mar1uscjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.12:29
erUSULjke, yes afaik12:29
mar1usPhoul no...12:29
mar1usfluxt cjmguitar, don't spam12:29
mar1usjfried PuMpErNiCkLe, well i tried it with i810 but it does not work...12:29
mar1usPhoul Im in bash -_-12:29
mar1usPuMpErNiCkLe jfried: k, I'll keep looking12:29
mar1uscjmguitar well can someone plz help me since i cant get tech support anywhere else for ubuntu12:29
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erUSULmar1us, do not paste please12:29
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mar1usmar1us aerolist;12:29
mar1usoops12:29
mar1ussorry..12:29
mar1usI get an error when starting opera12:29
powdermarlus what are u doing12:29
nickrud!ops12:29
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee12:29
k31thmar1us:  wat ?12:29
richardfluxt: ok, i use kubuntu-desktop,,, how can i change this parameter?12:29
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nickrudnever mind12:30
nargmar1us: ?12:30
nickrudsorry12:30
stewskianyone know how to get deskbar to do all that http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/12:30
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naliothubotu: tell mar1us about paste12:30
fluxtrichard, i'm not sure have a look around, it'd be there somewhere12:30
stewskiIve installed beagle how do you link it to deskbar12:30
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rukuarticAnyone have any ideas on getting MP3 players (hardware) to work on linux?12:30
nickrudthat just seemed too abusive to be an accident, sorry12:30
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fluxt!network12:31
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.12:31
fluxthmm12:31
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jae_how do i update clamav?12:32
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phrowzenhey12:32
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markyHi All12:32
Blippehow do i force a new ip number from dhcp as client?12:32
rambo3just block you old ip12:32
phrowzendoes anyone know why the 'w' or 'who' commands are not showing me logged in users? (besides myself at TTY :0)12:32
rukuarticphrowzen: You're the only logged in user? :P12:32
Xenhello. im trying to set up wordpress and mysql. when i try to access mysql this is what happens: "sudo mysql12:33
XenERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)12:33
Xen" there is no such file in my mysqld directory... where do i point it to?12:33
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jae_how do i update clamav?12:33
JemtGreetz. I move files around a lot - both as my self and as root. Unfortunately this means that alot of my files has been marked as executables, owned by root or similar. How can I "clear" the files som that every user on my system can use them and make them non-executable? I was thinking of a command I could run on every single file on my system (without the risk of damaging them, please)12:33
phrowzenrukuartic, nah a friend logged in and it didnt show it, or if i ssh out, and then ssh back in from the remote host, it still doesnt show it12:33
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rukuarticphrowzen: Lemme look for a sec...12:33
phrowzenthanks.12:34
nickrudJemt: that is not very possible, you're gonna have to be more specific about locations12:34
jkehmm, my 2200BG wlan card dosn't get detected. The module "ipw2200" provides support for it - i have modprobet the module, but what should i do now?12:34
markyI was wondering whats the best game availible from the repositorts?12:34
fluxtBlippe, usually you can do this by changing your mac address then ifdown ifup12:34
nickrudmarky: nethack for the hardcore12:34
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Jemtnickrud: About locations? My harddisk drive :)12:34
markynickrud  ,is it a graphical game?12:34
fluxtBlippe, googe linux "change mac address"12:35
jkemarky: tint, xlife :)12:35
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nickrudmarky: I liked sabre12:35
rambo3change mac adress?12:35
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rukuarticphrowzen: try who -a, or run as sudo... I guess. Might look for more help :p[12:35
erUSULjke, configure it12:35
fluxtno address12:35
LethalSword!tell LethalSword about rpm12:35
nickrudJemt: locations in the file system. You do NOT want to mess with /usr, /lib, /bin , /var, and other things12:35
markysabre12:35
majdcompiz/xgl doesn't work on breezy right?12:36
markynickrud thanks  , i'll have a look12:36
LethalSwordhow do you install rpm files on ubuntu?12:36
rambo3you dont have to change anything just look for dhclient.conf12:36
phrowzenhmm.. kay12:36
Jemtnickrud: Ah, IC. Well, it's all located in /media/hda4 (a FAT32 partition)12:36
fluxtmajd, i've heard xgl doesn't12:36
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fluxtnfi what compiz is12:36
majddangit....what a waste of time12:36
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majdi guess i'llsettle for something else12:36
majdi need to make ubuntu look good.....12:36
LethalSwordcan anybody help me12:37
fluxtmajd, fluxbox12:37
Munkie2i cant get ubuntu to even start to boot of the cd >.<   anybody mind helping me?12:37
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nickrudJemt: then, you cannot control permissions on a fat. That's easy :)12:37
jkeerUSUL: it doesn't show up i network settings :S12:37
markymunkie2 make sure youo bios is e12:37
markyset12:37
Kelsey23LOL12:37
Blippemajd, you need dapper for compiz support12:37
LethalSwordHOW DO I INSTALL FROM .RPMG FILES?!!!!!!!!!!12:37
fluxtMunkie2, change the boot priority to cd first in the bios perhaps12:37
mikeazorinsudo apt-get upgrade... *Starting PCMCIA services... and now the computer's completely dead. i don't have a pcmcia card.12:37
LethalSword.RPM*12:37
erUSULLethalSword, only if you must with alien12:37
Kelsey23LethalSword: Chill out12:37
jkeerUSUL;12:37
nickrudJemt: the only way you can control permissions on a fat is when it's mounted, see !mountwindows12:37
Munkie2already boots from the cd12:37
nickrud!mountwindows12:37
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:37
BlippeLethalSword, no screaming... and look up alien it transforms to .debs12:37
erUSULjke, try ifconfig -a12:38
LethalSwordok12:38
LethalSword:P12:38
Jemtnickrud: It's already mounted12:38
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Munkie2usually it shows "boot from cd:   "   stalls a few seconds and then boots windows as normal12:38
fluxtMunkie2, then you have no problem ?12:38
AltNickdoes anybody know if there is an easy way of exporting a sunbird calendar in windows and importing it into sunbird under linux?12:38
nazgulwalkerhow can i install bin files?12:38
Kelsey23Sorry everyone for referring LethalSword to this place12:38
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markylol12:38
powderlol12:38
kbrooksLethalSword, you dont.12:38
Jemtnickrud: How should I be able to move files to the partition if it wasn't mounted? ;)12:38
fluxtMunkie2, are you saying your cd is stuffed or incompatible?12:38
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kbrooksLethalSword, DONOT USE alien AT  QALL. period.12:38
croc_Hello, would i be frowned upon for asking a question about compiling with gcc on a normal ubuntu installation version 5.10.12:39
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Kelsey23I suppose thats what happen when 12 year olds get spyware and try linux :-/12:39
rukuarticcroc_: Nope :P12:39
nazgulwalkerhow can i install bin files?12:39
phrowzenrukuartic, im thinking maybe utmp is broken or something? can i reset that or something12:39
kbrookswhen i say "don't use alien at all", well, i mean what i say.12:39
nickrudJemt: no, I though you were talking about controlling permissions of files read that link, it'll put us on the same footing when we talk12:39
markylmao12:39
rukuarticnazgulwalker: bash ./yourfile.bin12:39
LethalSwordkbrooks why not?12:39
Munkie2not a clue what you mean by stuffed : /12:39
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nazgulwalkerthanks.12:39
rukuarticphrowzen: Imma linux nub mate, just thought of a few suggestions12:39
Jemtnickrud: Checking it out12:39
phrowzenoh ok12:39
croc_Well, it doesnt work :0 the configure error is "compiler does not create executibles."12:39
kbrooksLethalSword, just because. you don't want to know why.12:39
Jemt!mountwindows12:39
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:39
trenttotem-xine worked good.  I couldn't get mplayer working on .ogg so I think totem xine is fine.12:40
LethalSwordumm12:40
LethalSwordhow do i install limewire then12:40
LethalSwordcuz its a .rpm12:40
markyanyone found anygood bluetooth tools etc sniffers etc12:40
kbrooksLethalSword, easy:12:40
rukuarticsudo apt-get install limewire?12:40
kbrooks!limewire12:40
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.12:40
Kelsey23ROFL12:40
Kelsey23PWNT12:40
jkeerUSUL: shows a lo and a "sit0" which i suppose must be my wireless card... but I cant fin a way to configure it... should i try to rename my eth1 to sit0 in /etc/init.d/interfaces=12:40
kbrooksrukuartic, see above ^12:40
kbrooksKelsey23, pwnt?12:40
LethalSwordi didnt know u had to run the .sh12:40
Kelsey23...12:40
markylmao12:41
kbrooksLethalSword, read the factoid fully12:41
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kbrooksLethalSword, you dont understand it.12:41
Munkie2fluxt, it usually says "booting from cd:   " or something along those lines then it boots from windows(the wierd thing is when i put my slackware disk in the slackware setup starts up fine)12:41
LethalSwordi understand now12:41
erUSULjke, sit0 is not your card is a ipv5 virtual device. are you sure that the modprobe succeed?12:41
kbrooksLethalSword, "first you need !java".12:41
Kelsey23Look, I tried to help lethalSword12:41
erUSULipv612:41
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Jemtnickrud: Well, I'm not sure what you want me to find on those links. What I want is simply to have Ubuntu treat all files the same. I don't want restrictions - I want files to be.. files - like in Windows. When I open a text file in Ubuntu it thinks it's executable. And sometimes the file cannot be accessed because I copied it to my partition as root12:41
Kelsey23and he couldnt even find the Gnome terminal emulator12:41
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nazgulwalkernazgulwalker@nazgulwalker:~/Desktop$ sudo ./j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin12:41
nazgulwalkersudo: unable to execute ./j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin: Text file busy12:41
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fluxtMunkie2, perhaps the burn is bad, have you checked it?12:42
kbrooksnazgulwalker, oh?12:42
LethalSwordi installed java already12:42
Kelsey23Sorry Ubuntu people :-/12:42
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Munkie2fluxt, yeah...plus ive burned 2 disks and it happens to both of em12:42
kbrooksLethalSword, so d/l the file & rock away!12:42
mikeazorinokay. i ran recovery mode, and tried to install pcmcia again. after *Starting PCMCIA services.. Intel ISA PCIC probe crashses the entire computer. what do i do now? is there a way to skip this package?12:42
murtun_What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount12:42
nazgulwalkerkbrooks what can i do ?12:42
flodineanyone running mutt mail who can help12:42
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LethalSwordi installed LimeWireOther.zip12:42
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LethalSwordbut i see no .sh file12:42
fluxtMunkie2, perhaps either the ubuntu boot is incompatible with your system or your download was bad12:42
jkeerUSUL: the modprobe did take some time (20-30secs) but didn't give any error mesagges... i will check dmesg12:42
nickrudJemt: that will never happen, unix relies on permissions, which is a good thing. So does windows, but you just don't see it.12:42
kbrooksLethalSword, no you havent.12:42
murtun_What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount12:43
Jemtnickrud: No, wait - sorry. I do seem to have permission to ie remove files owned by root. Must be because it's FAT3212:43
kbrooksLethalSword, you have extracted it.12:43
croc_anyone know what i can do about my gcc failing to compile on a standard ubuntu install. the configure script error was "Compiler does not create executables".12:43
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jkeit failed :( with error -512:43
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dg2_blueskyhello all, what file do I need for the live cd?  Thank you12:43
LethalSwordoh kbrooks how do i install it then12:43
kbrooksLethalSword,12:43
murtun_What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount12:43
nickrudJemt: you can give others that permission. Seriously, permissions are a fundamental core issue in unix/linux systems.12:43
kbrooks!tell LethalSword about limewire12:43
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LethalSwordok12:44
mikeazorinokay. i ran recovery mode, and tried to install pcmcia again. after *Starting PCMCIA services.. Intel ISA PCIC probe crashses the entire computer. what do i do now? is there a way to skip this package?12:44
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dg2_blueskydo i need [   ]  ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso  ?12:44
LethalSwordi run the .sh file by typing sh runlime.sh in the terminal?12:44
jetpackI have been trying to install ubuntu on a pentium 4 laptop.  It keeps failing to install the kernel image, and doesn't leave a log in /target/var/log as it claims I should look at.  Any suggestions?12:44
nazgulwalkersomeoone can help me ? i have an error "text file is busy"12:44
kbrooksLethalSword, "then just run the runLime.sh file" -> chmod +x runLime.sh; ./runLime.sh12:44
croc_dg2_bluesky: it sure looks that way, doesnt it? it has "live" in the filename.12:44
fluxtMunkie2, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75367.html12:45
Jemtnickrud: Another thing - when i do a 'ls -l' in my console, file permissions are listed. I hate when there is not consistens in my things - and different files have different file permissions - and it's a mess. That's probably my main issue.12:45
dg2_blueskycroc yeah but was wondering about the i386 page12:45
mikeazorini need to install the "Intel ISA PCIC probe", where do i find it, anyone know?12:45
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ag0g0girlhello there12:45
LethalSwordi installed java but it says i havent12:45
croc_dg2_bluesky: it depends on what your archetecture is12:45
kbrooksJemt, permissions are trivial to understand when youu understand the windows way of permissions.12:45
dg2_blueskyheard some very good things about this distro12:45
athlonnow that Gnome 2.14 has been released, I want to know whether any of you ubuntu-users managed to compile a custom Gnome using garnome in Dapper.12:45
nickrudJemt: it's important that files have different permissions. If you give me a bit, I'll dig up some links for you12:46
Jemtkbrooks: ?12:46
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kbrooksJemt, and i'll tellyou their way. it is a single number. and here i go:12:46
Jemtnickrud: Thanks, sounds great12:46
kbrooks64412:46
rukuarticAnyone know how I could improve my wireless speed? I can hit 6 mbps in windows, but I'm down around 2 in linux... Its ndiswrapper-ed, is it beyond all hope12:46
Jemtkbrooks: I know about CHMOD12:46
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kbrooksJemt, not chmod12:46
kbrooksjemt:12:46
croc_dg2_bluesky: its truly a good distro. you can even have them send you CDs for absolutely free.12:46
ag0g0girlcould someone tell me how to install a security package for mozilla?12:46
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Jemtkbrooks: Oh?12:46
sorush21hi guys12:46
kbrooks644: read/write for user, read for group, read for world12:46
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sorush21I 'm getting error 17 on grub12:47
kbrooksjemt: on windows NT/2000/XP, anyway12:47
Jemtkbrooks: What's the difference between group/world?12:47
LethalSwordkbrooks do i install java by typeing sh filename?12:47
kbrooksjemt: these are the default permissions on windows systems...12:47
jkeallright... i will do a fresh install when i have time to back up the 15 giga :s12:47
polpakLethalSword, no, you install limewire that way12:47
fluxtsorush21, http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=grub+error+17+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=12:47
polpaktell LethalSword about java12:47
kbrooksjemt: on earlier windows systems: 77712:47
polpak!tell LethalSword about java12:47
mikeazorinubuntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY12:47
markyman matt hughes is on UFC12:48
Jemtkbrooks: Ok, IC. Good to know. But can you explain the difference between Group and World? What do they cover?12:48
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kbrooksjemt: anyone in the named group.12:48
Jemtkbrooks: So all files were executable? Weird12:48
jkeerUSUL: Thanks for the help :)12:48
kbrooksjemt: yes12:48
markyis there any packages about weed?12:48
erUSULjke, no problem12:48
kbrooksjemt: and world: anyone else12:48
Jemtkbrooks: What group? You cannot specify a group in CHMOD - as far as I know12:48
kbrooksjemt: chgrp.12:48
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JemtChecking out the man12:48
LethalSwordthat site doesnt say anything about java12:49
Jemtkbrooks:  Checking out the man12:49
croc_jemt, the group is set with the file-- the owning users group12:49
rukuartic!java12:49
dg2_blueskyis this a good distro for beginners12:49
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:49
kbrooksdg2_bluesky, yes.12:49
polpakLethalSword, yes it does12:49
mikeazorinsave me someone!12:49
Jemtcroc_: Oh I see12:49
polpakLethalSword, it's even listed in the table of contents12:49
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nickrudJemt: http://ag.arizona.edu/ecat/web/permissions.html , I watched their video once, it's not bad12:49
mikeazorinubuntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY12:49
fluxtdg2_bluesky, yeah, this or mandriva12:49
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markyi need to find a ganja package12:49
croc_Its not so different from NTFS, but so much is hidden from you in windows.12:49
kbrooksdg2_bluesky, but you'll have to workat it if you want certain restricted things, such as mp3 playing songs12:49
JemtI would wish all these file permissions would be hidden - like on Windows systems12:49
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Jemtnickrud: Thanks, checking it out :)12:50
majdthis is kind of an awkward question, but can i get some help making my desktop look like http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1794&original=1&c=popimages&orderby=rating please? i dont' know where to start12:50
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dg2_blueskykbrooks you can't play mp3?12:50
shivwhat is the command to install kde desktop in ubuntu/gnome?12:50
GTX`How do I remove everything which installed with xubuntu-desktop ?12:50
croc_dg2_bluesky: mp3 decoders are not GNU12:50
polpakdg2_bluesky, you can you just have to folow the restricted formats wiki12:50
kbrooksdg2_bluesky, i did say "work at it". it's ___possible___12:50
markyanyone know how i can play xvid and divx? i need codecs i think12:50
ufo!restricted12:50
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:50
frank23shiv: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:50
kbrookscroc_, don't give him that evangilism shit.12:50
adam_I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 this afternoon, and now direct rendering isn't enabled and I can't seem to figure out why. Before (with 5.04) I believe I just made sure I was on 16bit color (graphics card doesn't support direct rendering at 24 bit) but it's already on 16bit and yet I have "Direct Rendering: No"12:51
nickrudGTX`: not so easy, you could install debfoster and let it walk you through deleting stuff you don't wnat12:51
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adam_I have the i810, btw12:51
croc_kbrooks, what?12:51
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kbrookscroc: mp3 decoders are not free software.12:51
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croc_right.12:51
kbrookscroc: free as in freedom, not free as in price, here12:51
LethalSwordnone of the stuff on that site works12:51
markyanybody know where win32 codec package is kept?12:51
croc_They dont come with GNU/Linux distrobutions12:51
kbrookser, free as in speech.12:51
alancan ne1 help having probs gettin a msn client on ubuntu12:51
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croc_yes, i know all of this12:51
rukuartic!amsn12:51
ubotusomebody said amsn was at http://amsn.sourceforge.net12:51
kbrooksmarky:12:51
markyalan use gaim12:51
kbrooks!w32codecs12:51
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:51
markykbrooks yes12:51
LethalSwordcody@GM:~$ sudo apt-get install j2re1.412:52
LethalSwordReading package lists... Done12:52
LethalSwordBuilding dependency tree... Done12:52
LethalSwordPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:52
LethalSwordThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:52
LethalSwordis only available from another source12:52
dg2_blueskyok great i read that page, thanks for the heads up there12:52
LethalSwordE: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate12:52
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alangaim12:52
markykbrooks thanks12:52
alanis it on ubuntu or do i dl it12:52
erUSULLethalSword, do not paste here12:52
alanjust this sec got ubuntu installed12:52
Xenguy!tell LethalSword about paste12:52
rukuarticalan: Its on Ubuntu12:52
kbrooksalan: its on ubuntu.12:52
erUSUL!paste12:52
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.12:52
alanthaqnks12:52
shivthanks frank2312:52
alanthanks*12:52
dg2_blueskywhat else is different about this distro12:52
alanappreciated12:52
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helfrezmarky, you can get the bz2 from the mplayer website and just extract it to /usr/lib/win3212:52
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rukuarticalan: But AMSN has more features specific to MSN, gAIM is kinda more global12:52
LethalSwordbut thats what comes up12:52
nickrudLethalSword: your sources are still bad12:52
markyhelfrez thanks12:52
LethalSwordhow12:52
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mikeazorinbloody hell will anybody help me? i've been so specific.12:53
polpak!tell LethalSword about repos12:53
nickrudLethalSword: because, it's not seeing multiverse (where j2re-1.4 is found)12:53
mikeazorinnow ubuntu won't start up at all12:53
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rukuarticmikeazorin: That sure won't help... what's your problem?12:53
fluxtubotu, tell LethalSword about multiverse12:53
mikeazorinbuntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY12:53
ag0g0girlhello?12:53
_jasonubotu: tell mikeazorin about support12:53
LethalSwordi enabled universe and multiverse12:53
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nickrud!repos12:53
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:53
ryan_ishereI got no sound on my players12:54
Kyralmikeazorin, I'm sorry I didn't see your question12:54
LethalSwordits all selected12:54
ryan_isherebut i have it everywhere else12:54
ryan_ishere????????????????12:54
adam_anyone know how I might be able to get direct rendering working once again?12:54
Morfosomoam having an issue with the update manager where it tells me that i have some installs pending then when i accept the downloading window closes12:54
polpakLethalSword, did you sudo apt-get update12:54
Xenguy!enter12:54
nickrudLethalSword: if you are using breezy, replace the file /etc/apt/sources.list with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604712:54
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:54
_jasonryan_ishere: does totem work?12:54
croc_!compiler12:54
ubotucroc_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:54
ryan_isheretotem is actually the one that wont work _jason12:54
rukuarticIts like, build essential or something croc_12:54
_jasonryan_ishere: what type of files?12:55
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helfrezthank goodness for automatix12:55
polpakMorfosomo, go to a terminal and do sudo apt-get update then try again12:55
nickrudcroc_: sudo apt-get install build-essential , that'll get you the gcc compiler & some support12:55
polpak!automatix12:55
ubotuI guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.12:55
croc_thx12:55
nickrudhelfrez:  "echo -e 'ynYn'" !!!!!12:55
ryan_ishere_jason mp312:55
helfrezi just un that instead of spending 1hr fiddling with finding all the right sources hehe12:55
LethalSwordnickrud i replace the sources.list with a sources.list with that stuff in there?12:55
ryan_ishere_jason but rythmbox does work12:55
rukuarticnickrud: What exactly does that do?12:55
_jasonryan_ishere: did you install the gstreamer codecs for mp3?12:55
ryan_isherei thought so _jason12:56
nickrudrukuartic: depending on the context, it can tell anything to install, you have no idea what it is12:56
polpak!tell ryan_ishere about mp312:56
rukuarticnickrud: How so?12:56
ryan_ishere_jason thanks anyway rythmbox is working now i dont know why but it is so ill use that thanks anyway12:56
WiFiTuxAnyone knows the file that needs to be edited to allow incoming DISPLAYS? xhost + is not doing it.12:57
_jasonryan_ishere: apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed, will tell you if it is installed.  But I suspect it is if rhythmbox works12:57
ryan_ishere_jason thats what i thought as well12:57
mikeazorini must find a way so that a certain package included in apt-get update is not installed. how to do this?12:57
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rukuartic_jason: what about dpkg -l | grep gstreamer12:57
nickrudrukuartic: If my memory was perfect, I probably could parrot off what a person I trust told me. Try doing a grep for that in automatix, see what it's doing. Me, I'll trust people who know far more than I do.12:57
sorush21I don't have access ot my ubuntu system how do I create a grub boot disk from a windows machaine?12:57
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Morfosomodo you reckon the mirrors for ubuntu are overloaded? its going at ridicously slow speeds12:57
V4Vendettasorush21, burn the .iso12:57
GrarkQuick question.  What's up with totem being tightly integrated into the system but having no plugins or anyway I can find to update the codec's?12:57
Kyralmikeazorin, which package and why12:58
polpak!tell Grark  about restricted12:58
_jasonrukuartic: sure, if you change gstreamer to gstreamer0.8-mad12:58
rukuarticnickrud: Sorry man, I'm still a bit confused.12:58
crimsunMorfosomo: try another mirror, like se.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com12:58
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nickrudGrark: sudo aptitude install totem-xine ; that'll get you away from gstreamer12:58
bimberimikeazorin: use synaptic to lock the existing version of the package (Packages menu)12:58
rukuartic_jason: Yea but it'l list all gstreamers, might be useful for finding all versions12:58
mikeazorinkyral: pcmcia-cs, crashes the entire computer trying to start pcmcia services while installing.12:58
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ag0g0girl!enter12:58
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:58
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_jasonrukuartic: true12:58
LethalSwordyet again nickrud thank you for helping me12:58
dg2_blueskydoes ubuntu come preinstalled with apache and mysql?12:59
mikeazorinbimberi: the pcmcia conflict (or whatever it is) is stopping my computer from booting up12:59
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markyi can't seem to make the folder win32 in usr/lib  , any ideas? its says "denied"12:59
nickrudLethalSword: that worked for you then?12:59
dyrnedg2_bluesky: no server apps by default12:59
LethalSwordyep12:59
rukuarticmarky: sudo mkdir win3212:59
polpakdg2_bluesky, it's not installed by default, but a simple apt-get will do the job12:59
LethalSwordafter i did that and ran sudo apt-get update12:59
helfrezsudo mkdir /usr/lib/win3212:59
mikeazorinhow do i lock a package from the command line?12:59
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_jasonmarky: are you trying to install w32codecs?12:59
markyyeah12:59
marky_jason yes12:59
_jasonubotu: tell marky about w32codecs12:59
spinehello everyone, ive been getting constant memory lakeage from the gamin server, does anyone noe how to fix this?12:59
helfrezthe move all the dll files and crap into the folder12:59
rukuarticmarky: I'm teasing you, but Linux was protecting you from doing summat dumb. Installing Windows? Bah. Bad idea XD12:59
nickrudmikeazorin: sudo aptitude hold <packagename>01:00
ag0g0girlis this not a good place for newby help?01:00
rukuarticspine: Restart, or go work for the peopel who programmed gamin :p01:00
dyrneag0g0girl: this is the place01:00
rukuarticspine: restart gamin that is01:00
nickrudag0g0girl: there is no better place01:00
kbrooksag0g0girl, ask.01:00
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polpakag0g0girl, I'm not sure you've actually asked a question yet01:00
dg2_blueskygreat polpak01:00
dg2_blueskythanks for your information01:00
rukuarticag0g0girl: We're all here to help and be friendly :)01:00
nickrudag0g0girl: no promises that help will be found at this moment, though01:00
dg2_blueskyim a web developer moving to linux01:01
ag0g0girlthanks rukuartic01:01
fluxtag0g0girl,  google can be better01:01
adam_anyone have an idea about getting direct rendering working on 5.10 with Intel's i810?01:01
JsmHow do i unlock the root user (im trying to install bugzilla it needs root)01:01
Jemtnickrud: Thanks for the link - great text. But I was wondering.. It does not seem logically to set execution rights on a directory - why would you do that?01:01
mikeazorinnickrud: that has not worked01:01
croc_OK heres a good'n, how do i change my SU error message from "Sorry." to "Idiot."01:01
Xenguy!tell Jsm about root01:01
ag0g0girlI tried google...and I downloaded the packages I need, but I dont know how to iknstall01:01
ag0g0girlinstall01:01
rukuarticag0g0girl: fluxt has a good point too :p01:01
ag0g0girli have this stuff on my desktop so I can find it.01:01
fluxtag0g0girl, are they .dev files?01:01
dyrneJsm: sudo passwd and then passwd -l root to remove again01:01
fluxt.deb01:01
polpakJemt, execution flag on a directory means something different than they do for normal files01:01
ag0g0girl.dep01:01
nickrudJemt: the issue is, you're using vfat: vfat does not allow you to assign permissions to individual directories & files. it's a limitation of fat file systems.01:02
Jemtpolpak: It does? What does it mean?01:02
ag0g0girl.deb01:02
_jasonag0g0girl: what are you trying to install?01:02
JsmDryne wats the defaut pw01:02
ag0g0girlsorry....01:02
fluxtheh, did the same01:02
polpakJsm, you can just use sudo to install, don't actually log in as root01:02
rukuarticXD I think only one person needs to help ag0g0girl01:02
XenguyJsm: I find 'sudo -i' useful also01:02
ag0g0girlI'm installing the personal security manager for mozilla01:02
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dyrneJsm: there is none it will ask for your user pass and then let you create one01:02
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XenguyJsm: first user passwd01:02
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Jemtnickrud: But when I do 'ls -l' it displays different permissions for different files01:02
spinerukuartic, you noe what im actually going to go to work on gam_server01:02
mikeazorindpkg --configure -a must be run. running dpkg --configure -a wants to install pcmcia-cs. installing pcmcia-cs crashes the entire computer. i have do a hard reboot. see my predicament?01:02
polpakJemt, it means that that class of user has access to cd into the directory01:02
Jemtnickrud: And that's on my FAT partition01:02
dg2_blueskyim getting ready to burn this live cd in nero , do i just burn a data cd, or a bootable data cd?01:02
nickrudJemt: not on a fvat file system, it does not.01:02
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Jsm1) im not trying to log in as root the web install wants it01:02
fluxtag0g0girl, dpkg -i <package>01:03
Jemtpolpak: Oh, IC. Thank you - that makes sense01:03
Kyralmikeazorin, pcmcia-cs shouldn't do that...01:03
rukuarticspine: w00t01:03
Kyralhow does it crash the computer?01:03
polpakJemt, read access means you can ls the directory01:03
Jemtnickrud: I'll fix you a screenshot01:03
frank23dg2_bluesky: choose burn iso image or something like that01:03
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nickrudJemt: sure01:03
rukuarticAnyone know how to use cdrecord to make something I can read in windows? I burned summat but it didn't seem to want to work...01:03
kbrooksJemt, write access means you can add to the directory01:03
polpakag0g0girl, generally you can just use apt to install things.. you don't have to go download them from the internet01:03
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marky_jason , you da man  , i think there installed :D . what do you rekon is the best player? mplayer or vlc?01:03
polpakkbrooks, or remove IIRC01:04
_jasonmarky: I like mplayer01:04
ag0g0girlI use fink on os x but I'm new to ubuntu01:04
LethalSwordnickrud what do i type to open limewire again?01:04
Jemtpolpak, kbrooks: Ok, thanks :)01:04
kbrooksag0g0girl, so.. um01:04
fluxtubotu, tell ag0g0girl about synaptic01:04
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LethalSwordnever mind01:04
marky_jason, i shall look that way then   , thanks for your time01:04
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kbrooksag0g0girl, fink uses apt-get.01:04
sorush21V4Vendetta: that was unhelpfull I don't know where to get  the iso and the manual in the grub website dosen't tell you how to install a bootable grub cd from a windows machine01:04
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nickrudLethalSword: I never use limewire, oh, never mind (frostwire)01:04
mikeazorinahhhh!!!!!01:04
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kbrooks!frostwire01:04
ubotumethinks frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/01:04
bjornkriWhere can I get the xscreensaver parts that show up as "Not installed"?01:05
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techrush_isnt there like a gtk gnutella client also ?01:05
mikeazorinthis better not be sugared01:05
rukuartictechrush_: sf.net mate :P they're all over the place01:05
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Jemtnickrud: www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png  <= File permissions on FAT3201:05
_jasonmarky: it's easy to try both mplayer and vlc though since they are both in the repos.  Just enable universe and multiverse01:05
nickrudtechrush: yeah, but the one in breezy is so old, it cannot connect any more01:05
Kyralmikeazorin, do you use PCMCIA?01:05
_jasonubotu: tell marky about mplayer01:05
mikeazorinkyral: NO. I am on a desktop computer.01:05
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kbrooksjemt: yes. 777.01:06
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Kyralmikeazorin, sudo apt-get remove pcmcia-cs01:06
Jemtkbrooks: ?01:06
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teresa_hola01:06
teresa_hola a todos01:06
mikeazorinkyral: dpkg is jammed. that's not going to work. it needs me to dpkg --configure -a.01:06
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mikeazorinwhich installs pcmcia-cs01:06
Unityhey i am wondering why when we tar/intar something we do tar -xvvf or -cvvf. why are there two v's? isn't -v verbose?01:06
nickrudJemt: now, do me a favor: cat /etc/mtab, and paste that01:06
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Kyralmikeazorin, how does it crash?01:07
Jemtnickrud: Roger01:07
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_jasonUnity: try both, I think one is /more/ verbose01:07
teresa_alguien espaol01:07
jeff_Is there a reason why in firefox when I scroll the wheel very rapidly up or down, it does the "backward" and "forward" motions in page history?01:07
kbrooksjemt: that set of file permissions means anyone can read/write to file1.txt01:07
_jasonUnity: that wasn't clear: two v's is more verbose than just one v from what I have seen01:07
marky_jason i can't seem to play wmv's in vlc or in mpplayer, it said somethink like type font face or something01:07
_jason!es01:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:07
Jemtnickrud: http://powerzone.dk/result.txt01:08
mikeazorindpkg --configure -a; Setting up pcmcia-cs...; Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found; at this point the computer is completely dead. must be hard rebooted.01:08
polpakjeff_, it does that if your shift key is down..01:08
Jemtkbrooks: I know :)01:08
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Jemtkbrooks: And even execute it (if it was a Shell Script)01:08
_jasonmarky: install the mplayer-fonts package for the font problem and install w32codecs (bot will give you a link) for wmv's01:08
_jasonubotu: tell marky about w32codecs01:08
marky_jason thanks01:08
jeff_polpak, it does it if I just scroll quickly01:08
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sean33whats with sending me like a whole box of CD's ?01:08
LethalSworddoes ubuntu come with an mp3 player?01:09
rukuarticsean33: Hmm?01:09
pinpointyea01:09
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nickrudJemt: that is totally outside of my experience, a vfat filesystem having different file permissions on files.01:09
mikeazorinlethbalsword: yes, but restrcited packages must be insatlled01:09
_jasonLethalSword: yes, but it won't play mp3's until you install codecs01:09
polpakLethalSword, totem or rhythmbox01:09
_jasonubotu: tell LethalSword about mp301:09
rukuarticLethalSword: Go for xine or anything polpak said01:09
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Jemtnickrud: Hehe, ok. Then it's no wonder I'm lost too :)01:09
dyrnesean33: you've been called go forth and spread the word01:09
nickrudJemt: either one of: you're spoofing us, or I do not have a clue01:09
dg2_blueskycan someone tell me where burn as image is in nero01:09
mikeazorinrythmbox is a good itunes replacement01:09
dg2_blueskyits not giving me that option01:09
Kyralmikeazorin, file a bug01:10
polpakLethalSword, you may as just go through the whole restricted formats wiki and install everything01:10
rukuarticmikeazorin: what about songbird? When's that going for linux?01:10
Jemtnickrud: I'm not spoofing01:10
LethalSwordok01:10
sean33for some reason i have been sent 20 cds with ubuntu on them... i havent tried it yet is it any good ?01:10
polpakLethalSword, all these questions are answered there01:10
rukuarticsean33: Didja request 'em? :P01:10
_jasonsean33: a lot of us like to think so01:10
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rukuarticsean33: Give 'em out, they're little bundles of JOY01:10
sean33rukuartic nope01:10
nickrudcan ANYONE reconcile this: http://www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png http://powerzone.dk/result.txt01:10
Jemtnickrud: Would it be bad to do the following?  :    'chmod 644 /media/hda4/* -R'    ?01:11
nickrudJemt: by my experience, that would do nothing. But, hey ....01:11
Jemtnickrud: To make the permissions consistent01:11
dg2_blueskyI only have nero express,01:11
Unity_jason: ok thx01:11
polpakJemt, it'd sort of bork your directories01:11
dg2_blueskydo I need something else?01:11
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sean33i cant believe they sent me all these CDs all the way to Melbourne Australia , because im a linux expert ?01:11
Jemtpolpak: Don't know the word bork. Could you find an alternative?01:11
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nickrudUnity:  can ANYONE reconcile this: http://www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png http://powerzone.dk/result.txt01:12
LethalSwordi really love the ubuntu ftp client01:12
LethalSwordits very interesting01:12
tritiumbanshee!01:12
KyralgFTP?01:12
mikeazorinwait a minute. the pcmcia-cs was from dapper, but i never ran dist-upgrade yet. maybe that will fix it?01:12
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Kyralmikeazorin, maybe01:12
polpakJemt, well if you did 644 then you'd be unable to cd to any subdirectories, and it'd probably not change anything in them01:12
_jasonJemt: ``bork'' is like ``mess up''.  You want directories to be executable so you can list there contents01:12
bimberisean33: someone must have requested them for you01:12
sean33so anyone else had a box of these CD's arrive at their door ?01:12
mikeazorinhopefully it will let me install the dist-upgrade without trying pcmcia-cs first.01:12
polpaksean33, no, I just downloaded my ISO01:12
Jemtpolpak: Ok01:13
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Jemt_jason: Oh I see - thanks :)01:13
polpakJemt, If you really want it to be consistant01:13
bimberisean33: sure (but I ordered mine) :)01:13
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Jemtpolpak: You just told me Windows used 644 - or was it kbrooks ? Uhm...01:13
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marky_jason the font problem is now fixed but when mplayer pops up it just says "no media opened" even when i said "open with"01:13
polpakJemt, try find /media/hda4 -type d | xargs chmod 755 && find /media/hda4 ! -type d | xargs chmod 64401:13
jagerhi there01:13
Jemtpolpak: What does it do?01:14
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_jasonmarky: if you try to open the file after running mplayer, does it work?01:14
Jemtpolpak: I have VERY, VERY important files on the partitions :)01:14
Jemtpartition*01:14
sean33lol i am wondering how they got my details ?01:14
bjornkriA handful of screensavers are greyed out for me (Cosmos, Electric Sheep, Fireflies....) Anyone know how I can get those?01:14
polpakJemt, makes all directories 755 and all files 64401:14
marky_jason i'll try01:14
Jemtpolpak: Ah, I see01:14
nickrudpolpak: but, are those commands effective on vfat?01:14
_jasonsean33: probably a mistake or someone you know01:14
Jemtpolpak: I'll try it after backing up my most important files :)01:15
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polpaknickrud, no idea. They might be... ntfs is RO, but I don't think vfat is01:15
polpakJemt, it's non destructive01:15
bimberisean33: whoever did it would have done so via http://shipit.ubuntu.com and used a launchpad account.  You could contact shipit and ask them to tell you01:15
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Jemtpolpak: This is what I should type? :    'find /media/hda4 -type d | xargs chmod 755 && find /media/hda4 ! -type d | xargs chmod 644' <enter>01:15
polpakJemt, it doesn't actually do anything to the actual file data, just the metadata (permissions etc)01:15
Jemtpolpak: Ok, good01:15
sean33maybe they market to ISP's my company use to run a few dozzen of them01:15
marky_jason the wmv i'm trying to play is on a xp machine on my network , i can see the file and proberbly copy to my hd but i wan na stream it any ideas?01:15
polpakJemt, yeah but without the surrounding ' marks01:16
Jemtpolpak: Is this meta data included in the file headers or in some sort of file table on the partition?01:16
polpakJemt, partition info01:16
Jemtpolpak: Yes, of cause :)01:16
Jemtpolpak: So if I copied the files to a CD, the permissions wouldn't be copied with them?01:16
_jasonmarky: no experience with that sorry01:16
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polpakJemt, files on cd's don't have any permissions01:17
Unitynickrud: what needs reconciling?01:17
LethalSwordshould i install every codec on the site?01:17
polpakJemt, they just use a permission mask when the cd is mounted01:17
Jemtpolpak: Well, they shouldn't have permissions on FAT32 either ;)01:17
polpakLethalSword, if you want to. If you don't then you don't have to01:17
polpakJemt, FAT32 files have read and write permissions01:17
nickrudUnity: I cannot concieve (based on experience, which only so useful) of files on vfat partitions having dynamic permissions01:17
bimberinickrud: windows allows a file to be set readonly, maybe the vfat fs driver is recognising that01:18
Jsmis their a way i can chown all the child folders?01:18
sorush21I'm not sure If I installed the grub to the MBR or the root partition how do I find out and is there a way I can remember ?01:18
Jsmof a folder01:18
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marky_jason when i copied the wmv to my desktop it worked in mplayer but jst not over the network01:18
Jemtpolpak: yeah, but look at my screenshot : http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png01:18
Jemtpolpak: It's all on a FAT32 partition01:18
_jasonJsm: only folders? (not files)01:18
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Jemtpolpak: And I have given a file the execution flag01:18
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Jsm_Jason i mean all child files / folders01:18
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Intangirhello01:18
_jasonJsm: chown -R01:18
LethalSwordhow easy is it to hack ubuntu?01:18
[nyk] what's the package to apt-get to install gnome (and X) on a base install? (had not enough hdd for default install)01:18
Jsmthanks01:18
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Intangiris 5.10 the dapper.. version or badger01:19
LethalSwordbadger01:19
markybreezy01:19
Intangiri cant find the list ofversion01:19
Intangirs01:19
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polpakLethalSword, not possible w/o physical access to the box or the admin of the system installing insecure daemons post install01:19
Intangirwhere do i get the dapper version01:19
LethalSwordgood01:19
markyuse 10.1 breezy01:19
bimberi!getdapper01:19
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ubotufrom memory, getdapper is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/ or get a daily build from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/01:19
LethalSwordcuz i was hacked on windows01:19
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Unitynickrud: true that, but i dunno why that would happen. and any reason you are asking me in particular?01:19
polpakJemt, so it should be ok01:20
bimberiooh, that getdabber factoid is out of date01:20
Intangiri heard that XGL only works on dapper01:20
polpakLethalSword, not terribly surprising01:20
bimberi*getdapper    even :P01:20
Kelsey23ROFL01:20
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_jason[nyk] : gnome-desktop-environment afaik01:20
Jsm_jason can i do the same with chmod?01:20
_jasonJsm: yep01:20
fredrichbah...how do i recover a password from nickserv?01:20
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[nyk] _jason: thanks a lot, it's hard to find on console, in the small screen of the laptop01:21
fuza quick question for all you experts.. do you think I would be better off going for dapper5 or breezy for a fresh Xgl enabled system??01:21
Phuzion`Suppose I'm remotely working on my machine, and it asks me to insert the Ubuntu install CD, do I have to, or is it able to get the information necessary from the internet?01:21
polpak[nyk] , you can pipe the output of a command to less then page through or search within the results01:21
[nyk] nope01:21
Jsmyou can use the repostory01:21
Phuzion`So, just hit enter without putting in the CD?01:22
[nyk] polpak: yeah I using less but so many packages, yet not the right01:22
polpakPhuzion, you can get it online.. You just have to disable the CD repository in your sources.list file and enable the appropriate online repos01:22
khom2690!ubotu what is apt01:22
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ubotukhom2690: I think you lost me on that one01:22
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_jasonubotu: tell khom2690 about apt01:22
Phuzion`!ubotu what is apt-get01:22
ubotuPhuzion`: what are you talking about?01:22
Jsmwhats the number for read / right / execute for all users  / ground in chmod (i know its not secure but my laptop is behind a router)01:22
nickrudUnity: no other reason, except I think I saw you taling about perms before, and i am grasping at straws on this on01:22
Phuzion`ubotu seems to be down at the moment01:22
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Phuzion`01:22
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Phuzion`Jam: 77701:22
_jasonPhuzion`: he is working, check your private messages for info on apt01:23
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Phuzion`jsm:*01:23
fuznobody? fresh Xgl setup... go with dapper or breezy?01:23
khom2690_jason, how do I ask ubotu questions?01:23
Phuzion`_jason:  Nothing01:23
tritium!tell fuz about xgl01:23
polpakJsm, you can do it the new less hardcore way (w/o numbers) with something like chmod ugo=rwx01:23
_jasonPhuzion`: never mind, confused you with khom2690 :)01:23
rukuarticubotu, tell khom2690 about yourself01:23
Jsmyay! :D bugzilla is installing01:23
Intangirhas anyone installed XGL on 5.10?01:23
markyanyone know why i can't play wmvs over my network? they work locally ! bugger01:23
Phuzion`ubotu tell Phuzion` about yourself01:23
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polpakIntangir, no.. I did install it on my dapper box though01:23
Unitynickrud: many ppl here probably know a lot more about ubuntu than i do01:24
fredrichdoes anyone know how to recover a nickserv password?01:24
Phuzion`This network?01:24
_jasonfredrich: #freenode may be more helpful01:24
tritiumfredrich: /msg nickserv help01:24
Jsmbetter install mysql ;)01:24
nickrudUnity: likewise, my apologies for draggin' you in01:24
Unitymarky: what network fs are you using?01:24
LethalSwordwell i got to go01:24
Phuzion`Where would the sources list be on my machine?01:24
LethalSwordthank you all for ur help :p01:24
Unitynickrud: np. i'm just saying you might get better answers if you ask everyone01:24
_jasonPhuzion`: /etc/apt/sources.list01:24
markyunity i don't understand01:24
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Unitymarky: are you using samba or nfs?01:25
markythe file is on a windows box01:25
markysamba i think01:25
ab0rtedgot a question01:25
Intangirso i better get dapper if i want to install it eh?01:25
nickrudUnity: np01:25
markyi can see it , copy it then it'll play01:25
ab0rteddoes ubuntu support usb drives?01:25
markybut not over the network01:25
Unitymary: some players have trouble with samba urls01:25
Falstiusab0rted: generally.01:25
Unity=(01:25
Unitymarky: some players have trouble with samba urls01:25
ab0rtedcause i need to backup all my files to my usb external hdd01:25
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ab0rtedwill it detect it?01:25
ab0rtedand work properly01:26
bimberiab0rted: mine does, ymmv01:26
Intangirbah ill just pass for now, im still using gnome, but im giving seirous thought to trying out ubuntu01:26
Falstiusab0rted: it should detect it automatically, mount it and open up a window asking what you want to do with it.01:26
ab0rtedcause most distros i have used dont....01:26
Intangirseems neat01:26
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Intangiri mean im using gentoo01:26
bimberiab0rted: sounding less promising with each post01:26
Unitymarky: maybe mount it first: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mount/point -o username=Marky,password="yourpassword"01:26
nickrudbimberi: this is very annoying.01:26
Phuzion`_jason:  So, I commented out the CD in my sources list, and it's saying "01:26
Phuzion`E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:26
Phuzion`E: Unable to lock the list directory01:26
Falstiusab0rted: why don't you just plug it in and try?01:26
ab0rtedok than thanks a lot :)01:27
FalstiusPhuzion, do you have synaptic or aptitude open?01:27
frank23Phuzion`: close synaptic and any other apt program01:27
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ab0rtedif i have any problems ill come back01:27
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ab0rtedlaters01:27
UnityPhuzion: if you are sure that apt and synaptic aren't running, then remove the lock manually01:27
Jsmhow do i start mysql if its installed via synaptic ?01:27
Phuzion`Falstius:  I don't think so, this is all through terminal01:27
_jasonPhuzion`: make sure you are using sudo in addition to the above comments01:27
frank23Phuzion`: try  ps aux | grep apt01:27
Phuzion`Logged in as root, so it's not a problem01:27
markyunity i'll try01:27
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[nyk] just did apt-get install gedit...01:27
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[nyk] works..01:28
polpakmarky, you can install smbfs and smb4k and mount your network drives directly to the fs.. Then all your apps can see stuff on samba drives01:28
bimberinickrud: the vfat thing?  i've certainly never seen it.  is the file set readonly in windows?01:28
Unitypolpak: there is actually a tiny problem with that...the system may hang if the server turns off while a share is mounted01:28
Jsmhow do i start mysql if its installed via synaptic ?01:28
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fluxthow do i issue a shell command from within awk?01:29
fredrichIf i connect a external mp3player, it's not read/writable for other users, any ideas how to remedy it (since me and my gf sometimes borrow eachothers mp3player)01:29
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markybefore my hardrive died my ubuntu was the best i fixed all the little n iggles, but i'm on square 1 again01:29
nickrudbimberi: it's not that, the executable bit is different, as well01:29
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HedgeMageSorry about that... forgot to turn my client at home off.01:29
bimberinickrud: ah, kk -ENOCLUE then sorry :\01:29
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polpakJsm, /etc/init.d/mysqld restart or something similiar01:30
nickrudbimberi: something is off, so, I'll just let it go ...01:30
Phuzion`Alright, I did the ps aux | grep apt thing, and killed the apt processes01:30
Phuzion`It's still giving me the lock01:30
hollywoodI am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"01:30
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HedgeMageTwo points for ubuntu, by the way... didn't have time to install anything on the new laptop, but I'm sitting at the library on their wifi thanks to an ubuntu livecd I had in my backpack :)01:30
UnityPhuzion: if you killed apt, then it didn't free the lock01:30
YukiCussHedgeMage,  they always come in handy at unexpected times :)01:30
Phuzion`Unity:  How do I free the lock?01:30
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HedgeMageYukiCuss, Yep!01:30
UnityPhuzion: so sudo rm the lock01:30
nickrudHedgeMage: don't forget to give a point to the manufacturer as well01:31
hollywoodI am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"01:31
HedgeMagenickrud, true, true :)01:31
Phuzion`Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:31
Phuzion`What would I remove?01:31
HedgeMagenickrud, and to the gentleman who gave me this awesome laptop for $10001:31
nickrudPhuzion: you have one of synaptic, aptitude, or an apt-get session open01:31
UnityPhuzion`: sudo rm -i /var/lib/apt/lists/lock01:31
Phuzion`Unity:  Thanks01:32
Unitynickrud: he killed the processes01:32
nickrudUnity: ah01:32
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tonkari Ubuntu Users!01:32
tonkarhi!01:32
NeverDream'lo!01:32
hollywoodI am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"01:33
_Jsmmm anyone else know start mysql 4.1 installed thru package manger01:33
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mcsJsm: start the daemon by /etc/init.d/mysql start01:33
YukiCuss_Jsm, what mcs said. n_n01:33
tonkari have a question for you ..., i'm trying to configure samba but it doesn't works, does someone know how to configure samba?01:33
_Jsmjames@Linux:/sbin$ /etc/init.d/mysql start01:34
_Jsmbash: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or directory01:34
Unityhollywood: the reason no one has answered yet is because no one knows or no one wants to answer. repeating the question every minute or so wont help01:34
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markyeven mp3s wont stream in xmms from my network , something is really wrong01:34
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Falstius_Jsm, try mysqld_safe.01:34
hollywooddoes it need to be set up at all after installing?01:34
FalstiusIt might not be in the path though, so slocate it.01:34
unfotonkar: what did you try already?01:34
solid_liqhey, what package do I install to get a standard java jvm?01:34
tonkarmmm ...01:34
Unitytonkar: try `man smb.conf' or the wiki01:35
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nickrudsolid_liq: j2re-1.4 from multiverse, or see !java01:35
ag0g0girlthe synaptic how to page doesn't say how I can add a packages from my local machine.01:35
nickrud!java01:35
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:35
rukuarticAnyone know how I can list the files which grep finds matches? eg: if I type grep key *.log, to get it to name the files it finds it in?01:35
tonkari downloaded samba with the atp-get install and played a while with smb.conf01:35
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solid_liqnickrud: thanks!01:35
tonkarbut nothing ...01:35
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YukiCussrukuartic, -H01:35
YukiCussie. grep -H key *.log01:35
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solid_liqubotu: thanks!01:35
ubotusolid_liq: de nada01:35
Unitytonkar: theres a front-end to configuring samba somewhere in the system menus...under share i think01:35
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nickrud!ubotu01:36
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.01:36
rukuarticYukiCuss: Doh... read manpage first. T_T Thanks01:36
Toma-ag0g0girl: you downloaded a deb package?01:36
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Falstiustonkar, you can do simple configuration using the sytem->administration->shared folders interface.01:36
YukiCussrukuartic, or even just --help. :)01:36
solid_liqah cool :D01:36
Unitynickrud: theres nothing wrong with thanking a robot01:36
_Jsmopps my mistake helps if i install the right thing01:36
tonkarok .... i will try ;)01:36
jadaz87does anyone know why when i install something with add applications it says there is a new item in the menu but it does not sho up? :(01:36
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tonkarmmm ... but01:36
silvaran!botsnack01:37
ubotuthanks silvaran :)01:37
ag0g0girlyes toma I downloaded the mozilla personal security manager package01:37
Toma-jadaz87: you need to refresh the gnome panel (hit alt-f2 then run killall gnome-panel)01:37
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silvaranGeesh I almost typed botsnatch...01:37
tonkarmy problem is not the share of my directories01:37
IO-JupiterHi! I read in the foruns something about Data corruption in the LVM2 LVs after installing kubuntu flight 4. Does anybody know if it is safe now (flight 5)? Is there a way to leave LVM and EVMS out during installation?01:37
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Inf3ctedFxHello ppl01:37
tonkarthe problem is that i don't see other computers01:37
Inf3ctedFxdoes anybody knows about the new technology calls XGL from Novel?01:38
eugmanJust curious, is there any way to make an account invisible to all non admin accounts?01:38
_Jsm!bot01:38
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.01:38
_jason!xgl01:38
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/01:38
Toma-ag0g0girl: you can open up a terminal (Apps > Accessories > Terminal) then cd into the packages directory (possibly Desktop) then run 'sudo dpkg -i nameofthepackage_0.1.whatever.deb'01:38
_Jsm!botsnack01:38
ubotuthanks _jsm :)01:38
_Jsm!bothelp01:38
ubotu_Jsm: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:38
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silvaran_Jsm: ^^^ (ubotuusage)01:38
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rukuarticYukiCuss: What about looking for two words (eg: kicked AND banned)?01:38
kettleswhat si the default root password in 5.1001:38
Inf3ctedFxso it works only on drapper???01:38
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_jasonubotu: tell kettles about root01:39
tonkardo i need to specify the workgroup? or it should recognize it alone?01:39
rukuartickettles: Whatever you typed in for your password01:39
kettlesok01:39
kettlesthx01:39
Toma-Inf3ctedFx: yes. and on some systems, not very well01:39
rukuartickettles: But you can't login as root01:39
kettleswhy not?01:39
jadaz87tomathanks01:39
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rukuartickettles: Its much more secure to use sudo.01:39
kettlesk01:39
Inf3ctedFxso what do u guys recomment? upgrade to drapper?? or saty for a while with breezy?01:39
_Jsm!ubotuusage01:39
Toma-jadaz87: np01:39
rukuartickettles: If you absolutely must login as root, use sudo -i01:39
ubotu_Jsm: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:39
_jasonkettles: take a look at your private messages from ubotu01:39
_jasonubotu: tell _Jsm about msg the bot01:39
marky_jason its wierd now i got totem working, it does everything mp3s etc wmv over the network, but xmms wont stream mp3s and vlc or mplayer doesn't stream wmv or mpeg etc01:39
kettlesk01:40
silvaran_Jsm: Try "/msg ubotu bot" :)01:40
FalstiusInf3ctedFx: unless you're a linux wizz, you're probably better off sticking with breezy and not worrying about XGL.  If you are ... why are you asking us?01:40
Toma-Inf3ctedFx: try flight 5 on a seperate partition, if you have one. bug testing and reporting is invaluable01:40
polpakInf3ctedFx, I'd stick with Breezy.. Dapper will be here soon enough01:40
jadaz87toma it still does not show :-\ i install the anti virus and it says it is in Applications>accesories but it is not01:40
ag0g0girlthat bot doesn't make any sense01:40
YukiCussMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... FRESH MEAT.01:40
jadaz87toma even after i di what you told me :-\01:40
polpakInf3ctedFx, or do as Toma- suggests if you want to contribute01:40
Toma-jadaz87: anti-virus? in linux? :| what antivirus?01:40
Inf3ctedFxhahah u r right polpak  i'm learnig with linux... now wht r the pro or contras about xgl?01:40
rukuarticAnyone know how to search for two words at the same time with grep?01:40
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nickrudag0g0girl: which ubotu factoid didn't make sense?01:41
OmegaAlphaanyone know a utility to check for errors on a partition?01:41
polpakInf3ctedFx, it's not quite stable yet01:41
_Jsmis their virus's in linux?01:41
rukuarticToma-, jadaz87, what viruses to begin with? :P01:41
nickrudOmegaAlpha: fsck01:41
Toma-OmegaAlpha: fsck01:41
polpakOmegaAlpha, fsck01:41
silvaranOmegaAlpha: physical errors or filesystem corruption?01:41
Inf3ctedFxok polpak  is better wait more....01:41
Inf3ctedFxright?01:41
Toma-exactly01:41
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Inf3ctedFxcool ok guys thx.. thats all I need to know01:41
nyk2005I installed gdm and gedit with all dependencies with apt-get (gnome, X11), but can't start up X with startx! (xinit: no such process!)01:41
rukuarticGo nickrud01:41
Toma-nickrud: only because i was lagged :)01:41
polpakInf3ctedFx, if you aren't terribly experienced I'd say just w/ breezy01:41
OmegaAlphahmm i guess fsck is it eh? hehe01:41
markylol01:41
nickrudexcuses, excuses01:41
silvarannyk2005: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should get everything...01:42
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Toma-i have the ping of a dialup'er :( hence why i dont play games on US servers01:42
jadaz87toma-, rukuartic aegis anti-virus01:42
OmegaAlphais there another utility? fsck finds shite loads of errors and i dont know exactly what it means when it asks me what to do with them...01:42
Inf3ctedFxok  polpak  thx.. another question if I want to install KED on ubuntu.. just go to the apt-get?01:42
jadaz87toma-, rukuartic it comes with ubuntu01:42
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OmegaAlphalike name lengths and what not...01:42
rukuarticjadaz87: clamav?01:42
nickrudToma-: ok, you got fact on your side01:42
Falstiusnyk2005: check your .xsession file to see what it is trying to start.  Or just run gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm)01:42
polpakOmegaAlpha, most likely you just want to say yes to the errors01:42
Toma-kekeke ^_^01:42
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OmegaAlphaunless my harddrives files are beyond repair01:42
polpakOmegaAlpha, there might be some data lost, but it's generally pretty good01:43
jadaz87rukuartic nope go to add applications and search for "aegis"01:43
polpakOmegaAlpha, yeah, there is that01:43
bimberiOmegaAlpha: fsck :P01:43
YukiCusskkekke zerg rush.01:43
silvaranOmegaAlpha: If you're unsure, back it up somewhere else with dd, and go ahead and fix it (DON'T check/repair a filesystem that is mounted).01:43
jadaz87rukuartic and you will see what i mean01:43
OmegaAlphapolpak, it wanted to know if i wanted to drop alot of files01:43
Inf3ctedFxhow can I install KDE???  just apt-get install kde??01:43
bimberiInf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktip01:43
Unitythat reminds me, i'm due to fsck01:43
_jasonInf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktop01:43
bimberi*top01:43
nickrudInf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktop01:43
nyk2005Falstius: I try01:43
Inf3ctedFxok apt-get kubunut-desktop?01:43
jadaz87you do not want kde LOL01:43
gazanferhello. i was trying to install an application, and i got an error while configuring. it is: "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". can anyone help me?01:43
nyk2005silvaran: 1gb is too much.. :(01:43
YukiCussjadaz87, why not?01:43
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polpakOmegaAlpha, as silvaran make sure the partition isn't mounted or is at least mounted Read only before fscking i01:43
_jasonInf3ctedFx: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:43
Unityjadaz87: everyone has their preferences01:44
YukiCussganadist, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:44
Inf3ctedFxwhy not jadaz87 ?01:44
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Toma-OmegaAlpha: if youre getting an error on everyfile, make sure youre not running fsck with the wrong fs type. i did once back in the old days, completely destroyed my system. And yes, it did ask me to fix each file with a Y/N so i devised a system involving a screwdriver and my keyboard to hold Y down :)01:44
bimberinickrud: lol!!01:44
rukuarticjadaz87: xfce!!01:44
Unityjadaz87: best let them try and see before telling them to stay away01:44
polpakOmegaAlpha, as silvaran says I mean01:44
_jasonnyk2005: yeah, ubuntu-desktop will give you the whole thing.  I thought you said space issues though?01:44
jadaz87yeah i guess so01:44
Titantried running winecfg and got this insteed....   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!01:44
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!01:44
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!01:44
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!01:44
TitanApplication tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.01:44
rukuarticToma-: Oh my goodness01:44
TitanMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.01:44
FalstiusToma-: I'm pretty sure there is a switch for that :-P01:44
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OmegaAlphaToma-, lol01:44
polpakToma-, you can just do  yes | fsck01:44
rukuartic!tell Titan about pastebin01:44
Inf3ctedFxok but I still can use gnome anytime right? i'm not gonna get stuck on kde right?01:44
Toma-haha not for fsck :D01:44
jadaz87but maybe that is why ubuntu comes with gnome by default :-)01:44
nyk2005_jason: yeah only 900megs left. 1gb needed.01:44
Titanrukuartic what is that?01:44
nyk2005_jason: will have to use pm01:44
FalstiusTitan: are you running wine under a 32bit chroot on a 64bit machine?01:44
OmegaAlphaToma-, how do you know if its going to work with the right file system type01:44
rukuarticTitan: Check out the link ;)01:45
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rukuarticTitan: Its like multiplayer notepad01:45
Toma-polpak: hehe i wont be doing that anymore01:45
rukuarticTitan: and it doesn't spam the channel01:45
ag0g0girlmozilla-psm_1.7.1.2-Oubuntu2_powerpc.deb01:45
OmegaAlphamine is fat32... i share it with windows and linux01:45
silvaranrukuartic: screen + vi IS multiplayer notepad :)01:45
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ag0g0girlI have it now how do i install it01:45
gazanferhello. i was trying to install an application, and i got an error while configuring. it is: "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". can anyone help me?01:45
Unity!deb01:45
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)01:45
_Jsmyouv said that before01:45
YukiCussgazanfer, , sudo apt-get install build-essential01:45
Toma-OmegaAlpha: check your filesystem type on the drive, then check again. then just use the appropriate fsck.ext2 or .vfat and so on01:45
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gazanferYukiCuss, thanks01:45
_Jsm!ubout01:45
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _Jsm01:45
YukiCussgazanfer, sorry, I said that before to the wrong person :)01:45
V4Vendetta!dma01:45
jadaz87hold on brb01:45
silvaranholy lipton...01:46
Unityag0g0girl: see ubotu's reply to !deb01:46
gazanfer:)01:46
nickrudag0g0girl: why not install it from the ubuntu repos?01:46
Toma-ahh bbl. watching a movie.01:46
V4Vendettado i need to enable dma after each reboot?01:46
TitanFalstius: no, I am runnign a 32bit system01:46
_jasonnyk2005: x-windows-system-core, gives you basic X I believe01:46
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_Jsm!tell gazanfer about gcc01:46
OmegaAlphawell heres a problem im having.. my harddrive wont stop reading when i turn it on01:46
nadia007how can see my network shares via ubuntu gui interface, like "open file"?01:46
OmegaAlphais there a kill command that will stop it?01:46
UnityOmegaAlpha: maybe it's updatedb running01:46
FalstiusTitan: then I have no idea :)01:46
rukuarticOmegaAlpha: Halt?01:46
YukiCussOmegaAlpha, poweroff! :)01:46
TitanFalstius: ok, thanks anyhow.01:46
silvaranrm -rf!  It'll make the problem worse, but only briefly :)01:47
nickrudag0g0girl: sudo aptitude install mozilla-psm01:47
gazanfer_Jsm, hey i know about gcc, i just didnt knew i needed that essential package :)01:47
Inf3ctedFxthx ppl... brb01:47
silvarangazanfer: apt-get install build-essential ?01:47
polpakOmegaAlpha, only time I had that happen to me was when I had a worm on a redhat box01:47
gazanfersilvaran, yep. i just learned it. its really fun being a noob01:47
silvaranheh...01:48
Unityif i check something out with cvs, i can just ./configure && make, right? no special procedure to compile?01:48
OmegaAlphawell my harddrive got messed up during a resizingi and moving a partition with partition magic... it frozed during the process...01:48
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silvarangazanfer: Google is your friend... if you can't find a solution, search for the problem, it'll usually lead to the solution...01:48
V4Vendettacan somone help me with a dma question01:48
YukiCussUnity, depends on the project.01:48
polpakOmegaAlpha, ouch01:48
OmegaAlphanow i have all these new files that have random characters as their names... and my old files arent there01:48
nickrudV4Vendetta: yeah, shoot01:48
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FalstiusOmegaAlpha: you could download the manufactures boot CD and do a low level format .... I sure hope you didn't want those files :)01:48
UnityYukiCuss: assuming i get a ./configure script and a bunch of makefiles in the source tree?01:48
OmegaAlphashould i attempt to fix.. recover.. or is it garbage now?01:48
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YukiCussUnity, well, quite likely in tha tcase.01:48
_Jsmquick question its offtopic but any one know the defult user for bugzilla?01:48
YukiCussin that case*01:48
_jasonwhat is the difference between x-windows-system-core and xserver-xorg-core ?01:48
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V4Vendettanickrud, i remember enabling dma on /dev/hda and /dev/hdb but when i reboot it always reverts, i have now added the lines to hdparm.conf it should auto enable it from now on right01:49
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_Jsmwait ill rtfm01:49
V4Vendettanickrud, i would have never noticed it except watching a dvd was choppy.01:49
silvaran!info x-windows-system-core01:49
Phuzion`Was the pure-ftpd package removed from the repository?01:49
Falstius_jason: x-windows-system-core includes a bunch of x utilities, xserver-xorg-core is just the xserver.01:49
nickrud_jason: theoretically (package wise) I'd expect them to be equivalent ; what do the depends say?01:49
OmegaAlphaFalstius, i have a cd that came with the harddrive... well they were all p2p dled files.. i can dl them again but it will take a while01:49
silvaran_jason: One of them's not in breezy :)01:49
sanbecHirvinen, now upgrading to Dapper01:49
Falstiusx-windows-system-core should depend on xserver-xorg.01:49
TitanCan anyone help with this winecfg problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031301:49
solid_liqI can't find j2re-1.4 in universe, multiverse, etc.01:49
nickrudV4Vendetta: yes, they should01:49
rukuarticsanbec: Backup your files?01:49
_jason!info j2re-1.401:49
Hirvinensanbec: Wtf?01:50
OmegaAlphaif i do a low level format.. thatll just wipe everythign out anyways right? as for backing up the files.. there are a lot and they arent what i had there.. they are new.. i think form the error01:50
V4Vendettanickrud, okay thanks.01:50
FalstiusOmegaAlpha: You might be able to fix it, I can't say.01:50
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OmegaAlphaanyone care tos ee what it looks like? i have a screenshot01:50
sanbecI have /home in anothe disk01:50
_jasonsolid_liq: it's j2re1.4, no -01:50
nickrudsolid_liq: if you'd paste your /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll look them over01:50
solid_liq!info j2re01:50
V4Vendetta!java01:50
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:50
nickrud!info j2re-1.401:50
V4Vendettaj2re-1.4 is very bad quality01:50
_jason!info j2re1.401:50
btdown!freenx01:50
V4Vendettai suggest the sun 1.501:50
ubotuwell, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX01:50
ubotuj2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB01:50
nickrudold, yes, bad quality, no01:51
OmegaAlphai would love just to format it and start over since its easier.. but... if its repairable then i rather repair but its been time consuming already trying to figure otu what to do lol01:51
V4Vendettain my exp it doesn't work for alot of apps01:51
V4Vendettaazureus being one of them01:51
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nickrudold, yes01:51
TitanCan anyone help with this winecfg problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031301:51
OmegaAlphawhat is the error was somethign about clusters being misplaced or lost?01:51
markyanyone know why totem works streaming but mplayer vlc, xmms doesn't? anyone?01:51
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Phuzion`Where should I install my FTP server?01:52
sanbecHirvinen, no matter. I write Hi but appeared your name01:52
OmegaAlphaits so bad that when i run error chekc on partition magic it says there are too many errors that it cant finish checking the error01:52
nickrudOmegaAlpha: look in lost+found on the relevant partition. If there's something there ...01:52
UnityPhuzion`: you should apt-get install it01:52
a0101959fwhat01:52
UnityPhuzion`: so you don't have to worry abouh where you install it to01:52
Steve44hmm Section "DRI" mode 0666     - I'm scared01:52
Phuzion`Unity:  I'm installing pure-ftpd which doesn't appear to be in the repository01:52
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Hirvinensanbec: Blah. Use the better IRC client <http://irssi.org/>01:52
markyunity any idea?01:52
OmegaAlphaand the partition is actualyl like a 1/3 of what it shows in the gui partition software01:52
Phuzion`Unity:  Plus, I like to do stuff on my own.01:52
nickrudSteve44: that's normal, don't sweat it01:52
a0101959fespaol01:53
nickrud!es01:53
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:53
Steve44nickrud, dare I ask what mode 666 is? lol01:53
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ag0g0girlYou guys are making me dizzy...I've been here for over an hour and I have no answer01:53
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V4Vendettaag0g0girl, whats the question01:53
dg2_blueskywhere is the xorg.conf found in the live cd01:53
nickrudSteve44: read writeable by all01:53
solid_liqnickrud: here's my /etc/apt/sources.list -  http://pastebin.com/60461001:53
ag0g0girlhow to install personal security manager for mozilla01:53
nickrudsolid_liq: try j2re1.4 , I think I gave you a typo01:53
Steve44nickrud, ahh k I'll be able to sleep now .. lol just stumbled on it getting my mouse back button to work01:53
michaelfaviaag0g0girl, use synaptic01:54
V4Vendettaag0g0girl, never heard of it. but use apt-get01:54
Unity!info pure-ftpd01:54
_Jsmquickest way of getting kde?01:54
ubotupure-ftpd: (Pure-FTPd FTP server), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.19-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 292 kB01:54
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silvarandg2_bluesky: /etc/X11/01:54
solid_liqnickrud: j2re by itself doesn't show any results in the search01:54
UnityPhuzion`: see the above output from ubotu01:54
nickrudag0g0girl: apt-get install mozilla-psm , it's in universe01:54
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silvaran_Jsm: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:54
_jason_Jsm: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:54
nickrudsolid_liq: I'll look at your sources01:54
ag0g0girlI see synaptic,but it doesn't have psm in there01:54
solid_liqnickrud: thanks01:54
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gazanferanyone knows a good alternative to synaptic? all system runs very slow while searching in synaptic. (not apt-get or apt-cache please)01:54
Phuzion`E: Couldn't find package pure-ftpd01:55
michaelfaviaag0g0girl, search for mozilla01:55
Phuzion`Unity:  See the above information from apt01:55
_jasongazanfer: aptitude01:55
nickrudsolid_liq: lines 19 & 20, add multiverse at the end01:55
michaelfaviathen look through that list...01:55
UnityPhuzion: update your repos01:55
michaelfavianpsr?01:55
_Jsm_Jason lol how handy you added sudo i can just copy and paste01:55
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solid_liqnickrud: thanks01:55
nrymiguelhi ppl01:55
bimberigazanfer: kde uses adept, you could try that, might have similar issues though01:55
gazanfer_jason, thanks but what i'm looking for is a x window application.01:55
nrymiguelrespect01:55
gazanferbimberi, thank you01:55
UnityPhuzion`: do you have trouble seeing what i write if i send to Phuzion instead of Phuzion` ?01:55
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nickrudag0g0girl: you may need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list  : lines 19 & 20, remove the # at the beginning, then add multiverse to the end01:55
Phuzion`No, my IRC doesn't highlight things to me01:56
_Jsmone thing with kde can i still use my gnome apps?01:56
_jasongazanfer: adept maybe01:56
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nickrudag0g0girl: use sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:56
Jemtkbrooks, nickrud, polpak : I'm off to bed. Thanks for all you help with the file permission issue :)01:56
silvaranUnity: does your client have tab-completion for nicks?01:56
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nickrudJemt: heh. you have me running in circles atm01:56
mikebotin windows, when you open a picture, you can browse all the pictures in that directory by pressing left and right; does ubuntu have something like that? a picture viewer? eye of gnome doesn't do it01:56
Phuzion`Unity:  How do I update my repos?01:56
V4Vendettahmm, it seems when i install things they no longer get put into the applications menu01:56
silvaran_Jsm: Yes01:56
Unitymarky: assuming you mean streaming over the network, the others may have not been built with samba filesystem support01:56
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Unitysilvaran: yes01:56
nrymiguelsorry, I am a begginer, can anyone tellme hoe to install Skype on my ubuntu01:56
IdleOne_Jsm>  yes you can01:56
Jemtnickrud: Hehe, I'm sorry :)01:56
silvaranmikebot: gthumb?01:56
Unityubotu tell Phuzion` about easysource01:56
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_jasonV4Vendetta: not all things get have shortcuts in their packages01:57
_Jsmi get this01:57
solid_liqnickrud: awesome, thanks!!01:57
mikebotsilvaran, does that come with it, or do i need to instlal it?01:57
nickrudJemt: nothing new, no worries :)01:57
Webby`hi01:57
IdleOne!tell nrymiguel  about repos01:57
_Jsmwarning : 5 or 6 lines01:57
ag0g0girlfound it this time...thanks01:57
_Jsmsudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:57
IdleOne!tell nrymiguel  about skype01:57
Webby`How do I get ATI TV WONDER USB 2.0 to work in ubuntu?01:57
V4Vendetta_jason, i remember gnormalize did though.01:57
Jemtnickrud: Ok :)01:57
_Jsmsudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:57
_Jsmerr01:57
UnityPhuzion`: after you fix your sources.list, try apt-get install pure-fptd again01:57
silvaranmikebot: not sure if it's on the menu, but alt+f2 then type "gthumb" should get it.01:57
Webby`Are there any online guides?01:57
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markyunity i'm sure it used to work01:57
_JsmE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:57
_JsmE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:57
IdleOneWebby`>  wiki.ubuntu.com01:57
JemtWell, night all. Thanks again :)01:57
mikebotsilvaran, thanks01:57
markyunity before my hd died01:58
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silvaran_Jsm: Somebody else has the local repos locked -- try closing synaptic01:58
cjazinskihey guys i just installed g++ but when i try to compile something it can't find any of the libs i'm using any ideas? and i know the code is good01:58
silvaran_Jsm: or aptitude01:58
nickrud_Jsm: you have any of synaptic, aptitude or an apt-get session open most likely01:58
Webby`IdleOne: Thanks. I will check it out.01:58
Unity_Jsm: `ps -aux | grep apt` find open apt processes and end them01:58
_jasonV4Vendetta: try killall gnome-panel to refresh the menu01:58
attarhello, i want to change the default application for pdf, i selected a pdf file, right click- properties, open with tab, then there is a choice of  (Radiobutton)Adobe Reader, (radiobutton) document viewer! problem: i am clicking on  the radio for adobe, but nothing is happening! y?01:58
V4Vendetta_jason, yea, it doesnt' show up i'll just build it using smeg01:58
nickrud_Jsm: only one process at a time is allowed to install stuff01:58
_Jsmsynaptic was open01:58
silvarancjazinski: If you know the equivalent repository name of the package you're trying to compile, you can try "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>01:58
jvaihey uall, is nmap 4.01 or 4.0 in breezy's of dapper's repositories? i'm on hoary & using nmap 3.7501:59
nickrudattar: be sure you actually hit the radio button01:59
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Melissa|XCan anybody please tell me how to get a regular mic to work? I'm using Dapper, the volume thingy says I'm using Intel ICH5 (Also Mixer) and also lets me select Realtek ALC650F (OSS Mixer) too. I can't figure this out. Just being able to record myself is really my only goal.01:59
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cjazinskii'm trying to compile something i wrote Silencer01:59
markyis there another way or than samba?01:59
_jason!info nmap dapper01:59
cjazinskisilvaran,01:59
ubotunmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.95-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 683 kB, Installed size: 2352 kB01:59
LethalSwordhow do i use winrar01:59
IdleOneMelissa|X> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !01:59
mikebotsilvaran, anything besides gthumb?01:59
htrpthere is any other graphic complier for linux?01:59
_jasonubotu: tell LethalSword about rar01:59
UnityMelissa|X: if it was working with breezy, then maybe #ubuntu+1 has the answer01:59
silvaranmikebot: Not that I'm familiar with..... possibly gqview ...01:59
jvaioooo thnx ubotu..lol01:59
V4Vendetta_jason, has dapper been delayed the 6 weeks?02:00
silvaran!info gqview02:00
LethalSword_jason i know that02:00
ubotugqview: (A simple image viewer using GTK+), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 697 kB, Installed size: 2284 kB02:00
attarnickrud, :) iam sure i am clicking the radiobutton, tried it's center, tried click on the word itself, tried with space, nothin is working!02:00
LethalSwordbut i downloaded and installed winrar02:00
LethalSwordbut i dont understand02:00
markylethalsword you could use wine to use winrar02:00
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UnityMelissa|X: also, try boosting the rocerd volume02:00
mikebotsilvaran, okay, cause gthumb isn't really working...02:00
LethalSwordi installed winrar02:00
LethalSwordthe linux one02:00
markyhmm02:00
LethalSwordbut dont know how to use it02:00
Melissa|XI never really tried it with Breazy, but I'm pretty sure it's a general problem and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do to fix it.02:00
Melissa|XUnity: How would one go about doing that?02:00
polpakLethalSword, there's either unrar or rar02:00
nickrudattar: just because the thing is hightlighted doesn't mean the button moves, click the circle (been there)02:00
markyproberbly a command line02:00
bimberiV4Vendetta: no decision yet02:00
attarthe same for all other apps, not just pdf! i can't change the default opened02:00
silvaranmikebot: oh... i haven't used gqview in awhile, but found it was a lot like thumbs02:00
_jasonV4Vendetta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDelayMeetingSummary02:00
_Jsm!tell gazanfer about gtk02:00
_Jsm!tell gazanfer about gtk+02:01
IdleOneMelissa|X>  /j #ubuntu+102:01
cjazinskiit's like i need the cstdlib02:01
UnityMelissa|X: find your system tray, look for the volume icon, double click it, play around with the resulting dials and knobs02:01
cjazinskiis thre a package for cstdlib??02:01
silvarancjazinski: did you find the build-dep thingy?02:01
mcs_jason: ever used killall on a Sun machine? ;)02:01
_Jsm!tell gazanfer about gtk+-2.002:01
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UnityMelissa|X: or join dapper channel02:01
mikebotSilencer, okay..well--thanks for the help02:01
mikebotca02:01
mikebotcya02:01
Phuzion`Would running apt-get update update my sources list?02:01
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_jasonmcs: haven't had the pleasure, what happens?02:01
LethalSwordlol i just figured it out02:01
gazanfer_Jsm, lol ubotu output a parse error :)02:01
Melissa|XUnity: I've been working on that for the past half hour lol. I'll just join the Dapper channel then. Thnx anyway02:01
polpakPhilCote, no, it updates your cache02:01
jvaimy thinkpad t40 (reburb'd) is n the maIL i'm gotta nuke it of xp, but i wish i can salvaged the access ibm blue button02:01
manuxhello ... got some problems with french carachters encoding on apache?? where can i configure this ?02:01
polpakPhuzion, whoops02:02
polpakPhuzion, ^^02:02
Phuzion`Alright02:02
Metaltron!ssh02:02
ubotuI guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH02:02
polpak!tell Phuzion about sources02:02
mcs_jason: well, it kills *all* the user processes. please use pkill.02:02
cjazinskisilvaran, what do i need the build-dep?02:02
cjazinskifor everything i want to compile?02:02
_jasonmcs: I see02:02
Phuzion`I know what is is, polpak02:02
cjazinskii know g++ works just fine02:02
solid_liqhow do I configure my wireless network connection?  I already have the wifi driver installed and working02:02
silvarancjazinski: Well are you compiling custom code or anything?  Or an updated version of a package?02:02
attarnickrud, :( i tried! let's make sure i know how to click a radio button, it's a circle and i point the mouse to the centre of that circle, according to my knowledge, the circle should become selected! it's not happening!02:02
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_Jsm!tell cjazinski about bulid-esentials02:03
attarnickrud, could it be a dapper thing?02:03
cjazinskicustom code02:03
cjazinskibuild essentials02:03
cjazinskithat's it02:03
IdleOnecjazinski> sudo apt-get build-essential02:03
_Jsm!tell cjazinski about gcc02:03
nickrudattar: then I don't know why it's not accepting, and possibly02:03
Phuzion`polpak:  I just don't have copy/paste access right now, I'm working on a Windows machine with PuTTY right now, since my other linux machine is 30 miles away02:03
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silvarancjazinski: Oh, I thought you had those already.  Pay attention! :)02:03
IdleOnecjazinski> sudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
markywhen i try to watch streaming video from the net i get no picture02:03
marky:(02:03
attarnickrud, hehe, thanx anyways, u know of any other way of changing the default?02:03
polpakPhuzion, why can't you copy / paste?02:03
silvaranMy other linux machine is a Porsche.02:03
zezuhow do i get ubuntu to actually save the writes to my usb pendrive again ?02:03
nickrudmcs: if we were supporting solaris, it might matter02:03
_Jsmphuz right click copy and paste ;)02:03
cjazinskity02:03
cjazinskiand sorry02:03
zezuerr rather this is the sd reader/writer but nm02:03
Phuzion`polpak:  You can't exactly copy/paste from Windows into Pico through PuTTY02:04
solid_liqhow do I configure my wireless network connection?  I already have the wifi driver installed and working02:04
naliothattar: use the tab, arrow keys and space bar02:04
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Phuzion`At least from what I know about it.02:04
zezusome sort of write protect ?02:04
polpakPhuzion, I'm pretty sure you can02:04
nickrudzezu: umount <thumbdrive> before pulling it out02:04
silvaranPhuzion`: Sure you can... middle-click to paste.02:04
zezucould have swore i tried that lessee02:04
Phuzion`Oh, really?02:04
Phuzion`Thanks02:04
polpakPhuzion, or shift-insert02:04
_Jsmwill i need to restart after putting kde on?#02:04
attarnalioth, i did! the selection is not changing! tried everything, thought maybe i need root permissions, ran sudo nautilus and tried, not working!02:04
zezunickrud, didn't work02:05
nickrudzezu: and wait for the light on the pendrive to go out (on mine, anyway)02:05
naliothattar: i hope you've not run that too often02:05
mcsnickrud: sorry, just being smart-assed for 10 seconds before going to bed ;) cu02:05
silvaran_Jsm: If you want to go strictly kde, you can usually drop to a console, do /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/kdm start02:05
naliothubotu: tell attar about gksudo02:05
nickrudmcs: me too :)02:05
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rukuarticAnyone have a good console frontend to cron?02:05
polpakrukuartic, crontab -e ?02:05
naliothrukuartic: kcron?02:05
nickrudoh, too late02:05
Unitywhat package should i install if i want to compile x apps? like what package holds the xorg devel libraries?02:05
rukuarticnalioth: console... thanks polpak (and nalioth and nickrud :P)02:05
zezudamn, X just got really slow when i copied it again02:06
nickrudUnity: x-window-system-dev02:06
zezuits sitll ... really ... slow02:06
Phuzion`silvaran:  Thanks a million for the tip.02:06
naliothubotu: tel Unity about xincludes02:06
ubotunalioth: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:06
polpakrukuartic, that'll only work for your own crons.. system wide crontabs are in /etc/cron.d IIRC02:06
attarnalioth, oops! yes, i've done that a lot of times! permissions were weird sometimes, but then again i didn't know what the normal behavious is! :) thanx!02:06
naliothubotu: tell Unity about xincludes02:06
silvaranPhuzion`: No problem... putty is your friend... wait'll you figure out key authentication :)02:06
naliothubotu: yes02:06
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, nalioth?02:06
Phuzion`silvaran:  I've already read about it in 260002:07
rukuarticYes is a dangerous command.02:07
Phuzion`AHHHHHHH02:07
attarubotu: no02:07
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...02:07
Phuzion`6 errors!02:07
rukuarticubotu: yes02:07
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, rukuartic?02:07
Unitynalioth: thx02:07
solid_liqanyone know how to configure wifi?02:08
rukuartic!wifie02:08
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic02:08
rukuartic!wifi02:08
ubotumethinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:08
rukuarticsolid_liq: checked the wiki? :P02:08
solid_liqcool, thanks!  :D02:08
nickrudrukuartic: pie on the mind?02:08
keishinCould I get a bit of help?  I'm trying to setup SWAT, and I found a guide... so I'm trying to save the config file I just created, but it doesn't seem to be allowing me (I don't seem to be allowed to do much =\)02:08
Phuzion`Ahh, something happened, I updated my source list, and it went all wierd on me02:08
Phuzion`http://pastebin.com/60463102:08
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Phuzion`Do I have to update my cache after I change my sources list?02:09
nickrudPhuzion: try an sudo aptitude update, then try again02:09
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Phuzion`Alright02:09
Phuzion`Sweet, it worked02:10
Phuzion`Thanks for the help everyone02:10
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UnityPhuzion`: got your ftp server running?02:10
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Phuzion`Unity:  Yep!02:11
Unity=)02:11
Phuzion`Now to configure MySQL! Horay!02:12
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_Jsmmysql is easy02:12
htrp!info pureftpd02:12
htrp!info pure-ftpd02:12
ubotupure-ftpd: (Pure-FTPd FTP server), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.19-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 292 kB02:12
rukuarticAnything else besides Wine for running 'doze apps?02:13
Falstiusrukuartic: cedega is wine on steroids, but you have to pay for it.02:13
nickrudrukuartic: windows for most apps02:13
Falstiusthen there is vmware or QEMU.02:13
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mikeazorinwhere is the page that lets you paste a few lines of code and gives you link to put in irc02:13
nickrudstill windows02:13
rukuarticQEMU... Hmm. Qemu any good?02:13
_Jsmvmware is windows ;)02:13
nickrud!paste02:14
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.02:14
Phuzion`mikeazorin:  www.pastebin.com02:14
nickrudmikeazorin: ^^^02:14
mikeazoringracias02:14
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Phuzion`de nada amigo02:14
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nickrudrukuartic: qemu is ok02:14
Falstiusrukuartic: it would be slow ... it is a system emulator and you'd have to have a valid windows to install "in it".  I've never tried.02:14
Phuzion`Haha, i would have laughed if ubotu yelled at you in spanish for saying gracias02:14
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_Jsmmac on linux?02:15
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_Jsmi know you can vmware it on windowz02:15
silvaran_Jsm: There's a vmware for linux as well.02:15
V4Vendettayea02:15
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keishinCould I get a bit of help?  I'm trying to setup SWAT, and I found a guide... so I'm trying to save the config file I just created, but it doesn't seem to be allowing me (I don't seem to be allowed to do much in the way of saving anything... =\)02:16
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V4Vendettakeishin, run gedit with sudo02:16
tristanmikekeishin, if you need to save something outside your /home directory, you need to use "sudo"02:16
nickrudkeishin: sudo (super user do) is needed for writing most configuration files02:16
tristanmikekeishin, run gedit with "gksudo"02:16
rukuarticV4Vendetta: Don't forget about gksudo :P handy for those apps02:17
keishinohh.02:17
nickrud!sudo02:17
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:17
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V4Vendettarukuartic, not necessary really though.02:17
tristanmikeV4Vendetta, you should run graphical apps with "gksudo"02:17
V4Vendettarukuartic, plain old sudo works02:17
keishinWait... so I start gedit with... what is it?02:17
V4Vendettawhy is that anyway ?02:17
keishin=P02:17
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rukuarticV4Vendetta: Yeah but it eats your console02:17
V4Vendettai see..02:17
rukuarticyou can & it but still02:17
V4Vendettai never noticed any problems02:17
keishinThanks, that makes sense now.  I think I'm finally starting to put things together =)02:17
nickrudV4Vendetta: it's better at preserving your user configurations02:17
V4Vendettanickrud, ahh, ill have to remember that02:17
rukuarticnickrud: whats the diff between sudo su and sudo -i?02:17
tristanmikeV4Vendetta, because it cause problems with their config files, and sudo'ing the wrong graphical app can break your system02:18
V4Vendettaever since the dhcp client update my internet has been running better :-P02:18
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_Jsmsu changes you to root sudo just runs as root02:18
silvaran'su' would need you to type in your root password, rather than your user password.02:18
rukuartic_Jsm: No, sudo -i02:18
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nickrudrukuartic: sudo su - and sudo -i are pretty much equiv ; sudo and su  are also much equiv02:18
rukuarticnickrud: So no difference eh?02:18
_Jsmhow do i change the default to kde i accidently set it as gdm02:18
V4Vendettaanyway to change the icon from two computer screens, in the gnome-panel to like a pci-ethernet card?02:18
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V4Vendettafor network-connections02:19
nickrudrukuartic: try env | sort after each of sudo -s and sudo -i02:19
brennertristanmike: a lot of the wiki pages use 'sudo gedit'02:19
nickrudcompare and contrast02:19
Falstiusnickrud: except to use "su" you generally need the root password (unless you sudo su)02:19
nickrudFalstius: I was just comparing environments02:19
_Jsmany one know?02:19
tristanmikebrenner, well, gedit is ok 99.9% ok, if I recall, but better safe than sorry02:19
Falstius_Jsm, select it at the login menu and then just "use last session"02:20
_jason_Jsm: you mean kdm?02:20
brennertristanmike: i see02:20
crouchingMonkeywhat is the command to fix a broken package ?02:20
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bimberi_Jsm: default? at the login screen? choose the one you want from the sessions menu.  If it's not the default it will offer to make it so02:20
IdleOne_Jsm>  to use kde sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  if you already did that then log out and at login screen click on session and choose the session you want to boot in02:20
nickrudFalstius: I was peeved at why gksudo was recommended over sudo for graphical stuff, and then thought about environments in each case, so it finally made sense02:20
_Jsmok im going for 5 mins to re log02:21
_jason_Jsm: dpkg-reconfigure kdm will set kdm as your default02:21
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tristanmikebrenner, but if you ran say, America's Army installation with "sudo" you might* loose your desktop, it's a chance and will leave you wonder what the heck happened (trust me :P)02:21
nickrudcrouchingMonkey: in general, sudo apt-get -f install02:22
V4Vendettatristanmike, i have never had that happen02:22
tristanmikeV4Vendetta, lucky you02:22
brennerlol.02:22
nickrudbrenner: yeah, and those sudo gedit's are bugs02:22
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Karakinghi guys can anyone help me?02:23
_jason!helpme02:23
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.02:23
Karakingi got a problem with ndiswrapper and a wireless card... doesn't work for dapper drake flight 5 but works with breezy 5.1002:23
V4Vendettacan anyone tell me how i can get a network-connection icon with a logo i choose?02:23
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TitanAnyone running WoW on wine right now? Not cedega. I have a question.02:23
nyk2005_jason: resolving the space issues now with partition magic... it's my collegues laptop and I can't kill his XP02:23
_jasonnyk2005: oh come on, do him a favor ;)02:23
nickrudbrenner: basically, if you do a sudo gedit, and then make a change to gedit's config, gedit's configs may be written with root permissions, so you cannot change them as yourself02:24
Titanlol, ya, kill it02:24
nyk2005_jason: pm runs now... and for hours..02:24
bimberiok, in breezy type 'gksudo gedit fred' in a terminal.  Save the file.  Do you end up with a file called fred or 'fred' (_with_ the quotes)?02:25
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brennernickrud: i see.  lucky i use vi. i have been telling newbies to use sudo gedit though.  i guess i need to change that.02:25
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V4Vendettais it safe to get gnome 2.14 on breezy?02:26
IdleOnebrenner>  nano always works great for me02:26
_Jsmdamn im going back to gnome02:26
_jasonbimberi: 'fred', instead you should do: gksudo 'gedit fred'02:26
_Jsmthis is nothing like it was on other distros02:26
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nickrudbrenner: yeah. better safe than sorry. You never know what someone does, while you're helping02:26
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taliseinHi. I had an Update notification for my Breezy installation this morning and told it to go ahead. But it is frozen while "Setting up linux-image.2..." Is it safe to killall synaptic and try the update again from apt-get?02:26
V4Vendettatalisein, no!02:27
avarwhat driver do the soundblaster cards use02:27
bimberi_jason: aaah.  hm02:27
V4Vendettatalisein, becareful, that's a linux image it's frozen on02:27
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taliseinYeah, that's what I was thinking. Its been frozen for several hours now.02:27
V4Vendettatalisein, that's not good at all02:27
_jasonbimberi: it seems buggish to me though02:27
avartalisein: what is the process doing?02:27
bimberi_jason: btw in dapper you get fred (no quotes)02:27
nickrudtalisein: as long as you don't reboot, apt should recover well02:27
avaranything?02:27
_jasonbimberi: guess it was taken care of then02:28
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bimberi_jason: yes I think so02:28
TitanAnyone running WoW on wine right now? Not cedega. I have a question.02:28
taliseinnickrud: So kill it and be sure it installs correctly before rebooting?02:28
bimberi_jason: (to both of your posts) :)02:28
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_Jsmyay iv got all the kde apps on gnome02:28
Titananyone understand my problem with this... wine WoW.exe -opengl02:28
Titanerr:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\titan\\WoW\\Warcraft\\WoW.exe") not found02:28
Titanerr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\titan\\WoW\\Warcraft\\WoW.exe" failed, status c000013502:28
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V4VendettaTitan, you need to add that .dll file02:29
V4VendettaTitan, then it should work02:29
sorush21guys I have a missing hdd how do I find it and mount it02:29
zembeeworking with usb-serial, I noticed on my RHEL has a /dev/usb/ tree but breezy has none.  How do I get usb-serial on 5.10. Is that a apt-get usb-serial?02:29
nickrudtalisein: If ubuntu installs a new kernel, the old kernel will be available on grub (I've got about 5 old ones there now) But you are correct, still02:29
TitanV4Vendetta: cool thanks, but where can I get it and where should I add it02:29
V4VendettaTitan, in the wow folder, and off the internet02:29
V4VendettaTitan, dll-files.com i think it is02:29
taliseinavar: I don't know.. ps -A shows synaptic, update-manager... and "linux-image-2.6" running02:30
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TitanV4Vendetta: thanks again! :)02:30
avartalisein: try to strace(1) it02:30
bimberi_jason: it means we should be careful recommending >>gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list<< as it opens an empty file called sources.list'02:30
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NembutalHi02:31
_jasonbimberi: that's true, I've tried to either make the quotes clear or recommend nano myself02:31
NembutalCan anyone use zapping in dapper?02:31
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NembutalZapping crashes immediately after I chose "CHannels" ... can't configure them02:31
Karakinghow can i make my asus wl138g work on ubuntu 6.10 flight 5?02:31
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bimberi_jason: *nods*02:32
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taliseinavar: strace shows a "Resource temporarily unavailable" message repeating ad finum02:32
marky_jason still now streaming video from anywhere even www02:32
markyno*02:32
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avartalisein: what does "free -m" show you?02:32
_jasonmarky: well I know www should be working, do you get any errors if you try to do it from a terminal?02:33
markywhere is run02:33
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markyhmm never done it through terminal02:33
Nembutalzapping crashes immediatly h02:33
Karakingi add the driver with ndiswrapper all regular... driver present hardware present... but the device doesn't show up in network configuration gui...02:33
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tristanmike!tell Nembutal about dapper02:33
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taliseinavar: Mem: 504 493 10 0 49 90 .... cache: 354 used 149 free, swap 807 211 59602:33
tristanmikeNembutal, they'd be better able to help you02:34
Nembutaltnx tristanmike02:34
marky_jason when say i open a firefox page that has a movie embeded in it  , it says "no picture"02:34
kernspaltok i'm trying and reading for more than 2hours now... Anyone got a hot tip on how to make a Linksys WMP54G V1 WLan Card work? Tried several Drivers and all said Hardware present at Ndis but the device was not shown in the Network configuration02:34
_jasonmarky: did you install mozilla-mplayer?02:34
markyyup02:34
markywhere is run?02:34
techrushhow can i tell how much free space is on a partition ?02:34
Unitytechrush: df -h02:34
_jasonmarky: ok, now for the important part.  Is firefox actually using mplayer?  :) (check in about:plugins).  What do you mean by ``where is run?''02:35
techrushthank you02:35
htrptechrush, or df -Th02:35
techrushi think ill man df :)02:35
markyi wanted to use xkill but can't find a run box02:35
nickrudmarky: alt-f202:35
markyi'll check02:35
_jasonmarky: accessories > terminal, or alt+f202:35
markythanks02:35
crouchingMonkeythank you nickrud that worked out fine02:35
rukuartickernspalt: What point didja get to in the ndiswrapper wiki?02:36
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nickrudcrouchingMonkey: that's cool, what whas it again :)02:36
jhoyhi02:36
jhoywazz up02:36
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taliseinavar: I killed some firefoxes and have 163 free mem now, but still frozen02:37
TitanWhat does this mean?   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!02:37
crouchingMonkeythat broken package i had nickrud :P02:37
nickrudcrouchingMonkey: oh, -f install :)02:37
kernspaltwell ndiswrapper looks to work fine... it's saying driver present and hardware present02:37
rukuartickernspalt: try this "ifup wlan0"02:37
rukuartickernspalt: Might need to sudo that :P02:37
marky_jason can't see a plugins in about in firefox02:37
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htrphow do you login to a ftp? let's say the host is localhost and the user/pass is test1/test2 port 1222?02:37
blarionhey02:37
blarionI'm having a problem with my soundcard.02:37
_jasonmarky: type 'about:plugins' in the address bar02:38
markyahh02:38
blarionand I have no idea where to start.02:38
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!02:38
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!02:38
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!02:38
Titanerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!02:38
TitanApplication tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.02:38
TitanMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.02:38
Titan ???02:38
tristanmike!paste02:38
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.02:38
Unityubotu tell Titan about pastebin02:38
rukuartichtrp: ftp localhost 122202:38
blarion#flood02:38
nickrudTitan: you need to be running a desktop, according to that error02:38
blarionlol02:38
htrprukuartic, what about the username and pass?02:38
rukuartichtrp: Thats a console thing. Might be better to use a gui AP02:38
Titannickrud: but I am :(02:38
marky_jason it says mplayerplug-in 3.0502:38
rukuartichtrp: it'll ask you after you enter that command02:38
_jasonmarky: for everything?02:39
marky_jason so yes02:39
markynah02:39
nickrudTitan: and you're typing the command that gives you that error in a terminal window on the desktop?02:39
htrpim talkin about cmdline @ rukuartic02:39
_jasonmarky: does it have any totem stuff in there?02:39
jetpack_I have been trying to install ubuntu on a pentium 4 laptop.  It keeps failing to install the kernel image, and doesn't leave a log in /target/var/log as it claims I should look at.  Any suggestions?02:39
markyit has a load,02:39
markyyup02:39
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markytotem02:39
kernspalthmm sudoing it says ignoring unknown interface...02:39
Titannickrud: yes I am02:39
_jasonubotu: tell marky about replacetotem02:39
rukuartickernspalt: Hmmm... hold up02:39
nickrudTitan: what program?02:39
transgressi was having some problems with nautilus so i moved my .nautilus folder... now gnome won't start... i moved it back, and it still won't start...02:39
markytotem Mozilla Plugin02:40
Titannickrud: World of Warcraft02:40
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_jasonmarky: issue the command ubotu sent you and restart firefox.  See if it works then02:40
marky_jason ok02:40
transgressanyone have a suggestion?02:40
rukuartickernspalt: didja type "sudo depmod -a"?02:40
nickrudTitan: oh. I have never run that, so I get to say, sorry, so sorry :)02:40
kernspaltthink i did...02:41
Titannickrud: well thanks anyhow02:41
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rukuartickernspalt: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?02:41
taliseinavar: I've straced some other processes and it now appears to be held up on mkinitramfs, which is doing nothing02:41
Unityhow can i install something that i just made in a location under my home?02:41
marky_jason its gone out of the plugin list  , i'll give it a go on www02:41
Unitypretend i don't have root access so i can't overwrite anything outside my home02:42
kernspaltyep tryed it one time with the point&click thing and one time with all the commands...02:42
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Unity(using gnu make)02:42
htrprukuartic, is there any ftp client out there (GUI) for *nix?02:42
transgressanyone know why i can't start gnome at all after moving the .nautilus file and then moving it back?02:42
marky_jason nope  , i can hear it ,but not see it,, it says "no picture"02:42
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rukuartichtrp: XD Yes, there's probably thousands. I just don't know of any. <-- command line user02:42
_jasonmarky: link?02:42
htrpor i think im just gonna install wine and use FXP Flash02:42
htrpwhat you think rukuartic ?02:42
marky_jason http://www.ugoto.com/videos/02:43
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rukuartickernspalt: try this "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper && tail /var/log/messages02:43
Titanhow do I remove wine if I installed from source?02:43
nickrudUnity: you can't apt-get into that, but dpkg has -- root and --admindir and --instdir options02:43
brennerhtrp: places>connect to server02:43
brennerhtrp: of gftp02:43
htrpoh ic02:44
htrpi didn't even think about that02:44
marky_jason would the vlc plugin annoy the mplayer plugin02:44
_jasonmarky: heh I just saw the teacher get his pants pulled down.  Umm.. put 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please02:44
brennerTitan: try running 'make uninstall' in the dir where the makefile is located.  next time use checkinstall02:44
htrpTitan, try: sudo apt-get remove wine02:44
marky_02:44
htrpoh you said source, nvm02:44
Unitynickrud: i'm not using apt-get, i'm using gnu make to make mplayer02:44
Titanbrenner: thanks, what does checkinstall do and how do I use it?02:44
kernspaltlooks like there are just errormessages of me pressing keys on the numpad instead of the numbers...02:44
brennerubotu: tell Titan about checkinstall02:45
transgresslike the splash screen comes up, but it won't start... and nothing shows02:45
nickrudUnity: ah, config --prefix=/home/<usr>02:45
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brennerTitan: makes a debfile from src and iinstalls it for you.  makes for easier removal later on02:45
markyits there02:45
Unitynickrud: that option is for the configure script?02:45
rukuartickernspalt: Drop the tail of your /var/log/messages into pastebin02:45
markyseee it?02:45
nickrudUnity: yes, config --help see that02:45
marky_jason see it?02:45
Titanbrenner: cool, thank you.02:45
Unitynickrud: because i have already compiled it...now i have to compile again?02:45
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kernspaltcan't do... im using irc on a different pc and running between them...02:46
nickrudUnity: yes, you gotta set up the config correctly first02:46
_jasonmarky: yep, for future reference it's easier if you just paste the link here02:46
sorush21grub is not loading at all any help please.. I don't know if it is installed or not .. I think it is02:46
mikeazorini am having very big problem, and it is being caused by pcmcia-cs02:46
markywhat the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10314 ?02:46
_jasonmarky: I would remove the vlcplugin02:46
_jasonmarky: yeah02:46
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mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467602:46
nickrudUnity: you sucked me in, I avoid config questions because I just told you almost all I know02:46
marky_jason ok  , sorry jason02:46
marky_jason i'll give it a go02:47
Unitynickrud: ok thanks02:47
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_jasonmarky: if you used apt, I think the package is mozilla-plugin-vlc02:47
mikeazorinif someone could look at the link i posted and give me a quick tip or something02:47
mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467602:47
nickrudUnity: ./config --help, that's your baby02:47
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Unitynickrud: it said it wasn't autoconf generated so i think it has a different set of options02:48
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Unitynickrud: it didn't mention anything about insall directory02:48
brennersorush21: well do you see grub at boot?02:48
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htrpbrenner, do you know where's the config file of pure-ftpd, where you can edit the user, pass, port, etc?02:48
brennerhtrp: never used it. sorry02:48
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rukuartickernspalt: Oh... ouch.02:48
IdleOnehtrp>  locate prue-ftpd02:49
nickrudUnity: I depend on decent developers providing standard config & make stuff ; I'm not competent enough to use anything less02:49
marky_jaon it worked i can see it YIPPIE, right i'm gonna try over network02:49
IdleOnepure*02:49
mikeazorini get a hard crash when i try to dpkg --configure -a, and ubuntu hangs right before the login screen with just an unblinking cursor02:49
rukuartickernspalt: Did you make sure you installed the right drivers?02:49
mikeazorini need help please02:49
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mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467602:49
marky_jason it worked i can see it YIPPIE, right i'm gonna try over network02:49
htrpIdleOne, it did nothing02:49
_jasonmarky: great02:49
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DBOI am having some issues with my HP 1022.  It seems to treat each page as its own job02:50
IdleOnehtrp>  try man pure-ftpd02:50
kernspaltwell the one written here:http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L02:50
DBOhas anyone else had this issue?02:50
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rukuartickernspalt: What piece of hardware are you using?02:50
rukuartickernspalt: Well, is it USB or PCI?02:50
kernspalta Linksys wmp54G its pci02:50
rukuartickernspalt: Thats what I'm using :P02:51
rukuartickernspalt: type in "lspci" and give me the ID real quick02:51
warpzonepardon, has anybody tried the ATI Driver install that was Digg'ed a few weeks ago?02:51
marky_jason i installed some samba stuff while i was playing about trying to fix this prob  , now i can't browse my network !!!joy lol02:51
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IdleOne!tell warpzone  about ati02:51
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OmegaAlphawarpzone, i use ATI, didnt know about it... what do you mean Digg'ed ?02:52
RageingNonsensecan ubuntu live read ntfs partitions?02:52
_jasonRageingNonsense: yes02:52
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RageingNonsensenice. thank you =)02:52
kernspaltits a v302:52
rukuartickernspalt: You should be using something like bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys or something for your drivers02:52
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kernspalti do...02:53
rukuartickernspalt: type ndiswrapper -l, whats it say?02:53
markybrb gonna restart02:53
ArtimusDoes Ubuntu have an update program running in the background by default?  My friend tried to install something and gets an error that looks like dpkg or apt-get is in use (I'll get the exact error message in a second)02:53
rukuartickernspalt: does it say bcmlw5  driver present, hardware present?02:53
kernspaltyes02:53
nickrudArtimus: yes, it does, you may have tripped over it02:53
fluxtwhat is the package name for the kernel source for the current kernel?02:53
nickrudfluxt: linux-source-2.6.1202:54
kernspaltoh it says bcmwl5 not bcmlw5 here...02:54
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brennerDBO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters says it worked fine for someone else.  maybe try the forum02:54
ufokernspalt, are you using dapper or breezy02:54
Artimusnickrud: How badly would it break if I had him kill -9 it?02:54
rukuartickernspalt: Wow... I'm totally lost as to whats gettin stuck on. ufo might be able to help though02:54
warpzoneOmegaAplha: here's the link, supposedly a way of getting the latest ATI drivers on Ubuntu. Just wanted to verify that it worked. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584)02:55
kernspaltthink breezy...02:55
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kernspaltits a 5.10 cd02:55
nickrudArtimus: not badly at all, it's only updating some files, but I'd wait a few, it should take long even on ppp02:55
DBObrenner, I saw that, it mentioned something about USB1 and USB2, do they mean USB1.0 and USB2.0?02:55
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ufokernspalt, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&pp=1002:56
jadaz87can anyone help me?02:56
brennerDBO: yes02:56
Artimusnickrud: I'm trying to get sshd installed on his box so I can ssh in and fix the things myself.  It's rather miserable trying to do this over MSN, at the moment :P  I'll have him wait02:56
ufokernspalt, and use this for the radiostate config sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf02:57
mikeazorinsOMebody HeLP ME WIth MY ProbL<Em02:57
mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467602:57
jadaz87i installed a program through add application and it is NOT coming up in the menu where it is supposed to be and when i go to edit menu the item is there though :-\02:57
nickrudArtimus: good idea, all in all.02:57
DBObrenner: thank you02:57
fluxtnickrud, gah.. apparently.. apt-cache dump | grep linux-source ..works better than.. apt-cache search linux-source02:57
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kernspaltok working through the forum post now... this will take a while..02:57
nickrudArtimus: you could have him do a sudo netstat -tlp , make sure that some apt process is happening02:57
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rukuartic!ops02:58
jadaz87!ops02:58
rukuarticOh late on that one02:58
nickrudArtimus: hm, sudo netstat -tp, not l02:58
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Artimusnickrud: He's got a bunch of things called "adept_updater" running.  I assume that's the update program?02:58
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nickrudArtimus: exactly02:58
fluxtanyone know of a good movie to watch ;)02:58
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marky_jason  right, i can play vids in firefox now but still not from another machine02:59
nickrudArtimus: he must be running kde02:59
warpzoneWill using the ubuntu-provided drivers allow me to use the RCA cable dual monitor? Or should I get the ati.com drivers?02:59
Artimusnickrud: yeah02:59
rukuarticfluxt: aside from the one mentioned above? >> No thats not a good movie02:59
Unityanyone know if i can setup my computer to turn off after a certain process finishes?02:59
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jadaz87tristanmike i have done that and it still does not come up02:59
jadaz87tristanmike what should i do?02:59
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tristanmikejadaz87, it has a checkmark ? what program ?03:00
jadaz87yes03:00
warpzonenevermind, looks like its ati.com03:00
jadaz87tristanmike i know the is going to sound stupid because i am on linux but aegis antivirus03:00
jadaz87tristanmike hahaha lol03:00
htrpanyway, what's a good ftp server that's easy to config?03:01
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tristanmikejadaz87, hmmm....does it have a gui ?03:01
IdleOnehtrp>  gftp03:01
jadaz87yes it does03:01
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jadaz87tristanmike it is checkmarked under edit menus03:01
tristanmikejadaz87, and you logged out and logged back in ?03:01
jadaz87tristanmike i rebooted the computer lol03:01
tristanmikejadaz87, what category is it in ?03:02
V4Vendettai can't find a good terminal icon -_-03:02
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jadaz87tristanmike accesories03:02
tristanmikejadaz87, very odd indeed03:02
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jadaz87tristanmike yes i know :-\03:02
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tristanmikejadaz87, did you try to uncheck it, close the Menu Editor, open it, put the checkmark back in and close it...?03:03
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jadaz87tristanmike i will try that now03:03
htrpwhen you uninstall something using 'apt-get remove' command, what other things you need to remove if you really want to remove it completely?03:04
IdleOnehtrp>  sudo apt-get --purge remove package03:04
jadaz87tristanmike no it still does not work03:04
htrpIdleOne, what does that do?03:04
mikeazorinthis package wanted to be installed when i changed my sources.list from breezy to dapper03:04
mikeazorinpcmcia-cs03:04
nickrudhtrp: remove leaves files in /etc ; purge removes those as well03:05
mikeazorinbut it crashes my computer when it tries to install03:05
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mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467603:05
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IdleOnehtrp>  it will remove all config files of that package03:05
imc_Evening. Will XGL run on ATI card?03:05
mikeazorincan somebody, a kind soul, please help me with my predicament?03:05
htrpic03:05
mikeazorinimc_: yes go away03:05
mikeazorinsomeone pplease help me03:05
warpzonepardon, is there a way to tell what version of Xfree86 I'm using?03:05
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mikeazoringive me one word of advice03:05
mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467603:05
mikeazorini don't know what to do03:06
Teratogenwhat's the difference betweein pool/main and pool/universe at archive.ubuntu.com ?03:06
IdleOnemikeazorin>  not a very helpfull attitude considering you are asking for help yourself :P03:06
htrpok, im on synaptic, what's the diff between removal and complete removal?03:06
mikeazorinubuntu never gets to logon screen03:06
warpzonei think it's required to install the driver, suprised it can't determine automatically03:06
imc_mikeazorinb, go stick your head in a bowl somewhere, okay?03:06
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mikeazorinsorry?03:06
NeverDreamwarpzone, ubuntu uses x.org :p03:06
mikeazorinoops03:06
IdleOnemikeazorin> see what I mean03:06
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mikeazorinaww, i feel  bad03:06
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IdleOnemikeazorin>  live and learn :)03:07
mikeazorinespecially cause i can't figure out what the heck my problem is03:07
pwwmikeazorin When you changed sources, did you do apt-get dist-upgrade or just upgrade?03:07
warpzoneNeverDream: o, didn't realize there was a difference. Learn something new every moment :-P03:07
NeverDream;)03:07
ali_is there any way to connect like in putty from ubuntu workstation03:07
mikeazorini did apt-get upgrade first which failed when it got to pcmcia-cs03:07
ali_is there any way to connect to the remote server from bash like in putty from ubuntu workstation03:07
brennerTeratogen: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components03:07
_jasonali_: ssh username@host03:07
mikeazorini then tried dist-upgrade which installed some packages but then crashed trying pcmcia-cs again03:08
ali_thanks _jason03:08
mikeazorini have a desktop, no pcmcia slot03:08
mikeazorinhttp://pastebin.com/60467603:08
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htrpok, im on synaptic, what's the diff between removal and complete removal?03:08
mikeazorinit looks like the install script is asking something with the wrong syntax03:09
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ufohtrp, complete removes the conf files too03:09
Zhadowanybody familiar with wine(the program, not the drink :P ) ?03:09
mustard5htrp, complete removal takes out config files too03:09
htrpic03:09
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brennerTeratogen: the main difference is universe has no guarantee of security fixes and support03:10
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markyany ideas how i can get mplayer to auto play file on a xp machine? i just come up with the last thing that was played in it03:10
markyit*03:10
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baboHi guys, how do I create a shared folder for WORKGROUP on my ubuntu, using only the cmd line ?03:11
pwwmikeazorin desktop Vs laptop machine shouldn't matter, desktops can have PC slot...03:11
boz!wine03:11
marky_jason i just removed totem to see if it would help but now i have nothing that will play it03:11
Zhadow!wine03:11
htrp!info wine03:11
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB03:11
_jasonbabo: do you understand linux permissions?03:11
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tristanmikejadaz87, I can't really find anything....03:11
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_jasonmarky: try totem-xine03:11
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orangeyhey all!03:12
jadaz87tristanmike oh ok03:12
babo_jason: yeah, I reckon so03:12
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orangeyUbuntu has detected my sound card twice: Once it loads up the OSS drivers; once the Alsa drivers..03:12
Zhadowguys, im using wine....but when i type wine setup.exe     nothing happens...no error, no nothing03:12
tristanmikejadaz87, I don't understand why it's not showing up03:12
orangeythis does not do good things..03:12
marky_jason xmms won't play the mp3 on the same place, i can copy and paste it to my hd then it works :S03:12
orangeyHow can I make Ubuntu redetect my sound card?03:12
jadaz87tristanmike i do not know either03:12
pwwmikeazorin ...the only other thing I can think to try is synaptic fix broken packages (under edit menu)...03:12
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mikeazorini can't get into gnome synaptic03:13
_jasonbabo: just mkdir foo, then chgrp WORKGROUP foo, then make sure the right group permissions are set03:13
pwwmikeazorin ...but make sure sources list is A-OK.03:13
jadaz87tristanmike i am going to deselect it on the edit menu and then uninstall then reinstall03:13
rukuarticAnyone know why I can't get sound to work for Flash? It works fine for Mp3's and movies and system events, but it doesn't want to work for flash. maybe its just certain flash...03:13
tristanmikejadaz87, does it have an image ?03:13
bozZhadow: try wine config03:13
mikeazorinmy source list crashed too, i'll see if i can bring it back up03:13
babo_jason: cool thanks03:13
jadaz87tristanmike yes it does the aegis AV icon03:13
tristanmikejadaz87, strange...03:14
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nickrudrukuartic: !restricted has some help with the oddities of flash & sound03:14
markydid someone say earlier that mplayer doesn't like samba?03:14
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mikeazorinpww: i still have the old one03:14
markyi'm sure it worked before my hd died, i had to install ubuntu from fresh03:14
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boscothe bet dig room is diggnation03:15
marky_jason have you quit?03:15
Teratogenbrenner thanks03:15
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_jasonmarky: you've been asking for a while, maybe you should try the forums and/or mailing list?03:15
pwwmikeazorin I went through some tribulations with my sources.list, the one I tried to send is rock solid for Dapper03:15
Teratogenuniverse is HUGE03:16
_Jsm||Site_Doneso wats been going since i did my site?03:16
mikeazorinokay, didn't know03:16
orangeyHmmm.03:16
mikeazorinsend again, pww03:16
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orangeyHow can I configure my sound card in ubuntu?03:16
Zhadowboz, thanx, i think i am getting it now03:16
orangeyi.e., what is being called to decide what drivers for my sound cards are needed?03:16
IdleOne!tell orangey  about sound03:16
markyits just rotting my brain, i can't believe it won't play a file on my network03:16
antHi - I'm attempting nfs between ubuntu boxes and getting "Connection refused".  Google turns up stuff for Warty!  Anyone help?03:17
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IdleOne!tell ant about nfs03:17
naliothubotu: tell ant about nfs03:17
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_Jsm||Site_Done!tell me about sound03:17
boscothe bet dig room is diggnation03:17
bozZhadow: np i had the same trouble after you do the wine config, you should be able to just double click on the win program you wanna run03:17
naliothbosco: may we help you with something?03:18
Zhadowboz, ok great!  that helps too, thanx!03:18
markyanyone else play files in ubuntu from a windows box? like mp3s and wmvs?03:18
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bozthatnks for helping break my new years resolution to not type anything with WIN in it ; P03:19
ZhadowHAHAHA03:19
Zhadowand only 3 months into the year...shame!03:19
bozlol03:19
rukuarticubotu, nosoundflash is fixed by installing alsa-oss and running firefox with "aoss firefox"03:19
ubotuokay, rukuartic03:19
_Jsm||Site_Donedamn03:20
ssstormyis there a keyboard command to switch subpanes in Gaim?03:20
dg2_blueskyHello everyone, I just ran the live cd, and my mouse is a big fuzzy square, how do I correct this03:20
techrushheh03:20
kernspaltthx ufo it finally worked!!! after 3 hours of trying :)03:20
marky_jason should i just reinstall it?03:20
_jasonmarky: totem?03:20
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marky_jason the whole of ubuntu03:20
V4Vendetta #html03:20
_jasonmarky: I wouldn't03:20
nickrud!flashsound03:20
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud03:20
ufokernspalt, np03:21
kernspaltthx to rukuartic, too of course03:21
IdleOne!nosoundflash03:21
bimberi_Jsm||Site_Done: /msg chanserv list #*html*03:21
ubotunosoundflash is, like, fixed by installing alsa-oss and running firefox with "aoss firefox"03:21
marky_jason i not cleaver enuff to find the answers i need  , in linux its all called something different, i'm useless03:21
_jasonmarky: you should try posting on the forums and mailing the mailing list before a reinstall imo03:22
mikeazorinokay, i just "apt-get update". every single line of it i get "Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'" or whatever the link is for each of them. why is this happening??03:22
marky_jason i think i'll reinstall ubuntu then only get mplayer not all loads of syuff03:22
_Jsm||Site_Donedamn no reply :( any one want to offer their non ubuntu help to me?03:22
naliothmikeazorin: your machine isnt resolving the address03:22
nickrudrukuartic: you might want to edit that to say 'usually fixed' , I've seen thtat apparently not help in some situations03:22
bozdg2_bluesky shave it03:22
_jasonmarky: installing stuff from apt should not bork your system03:22
p01n7Hi from the XChat Python interface03:22
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mikeazorinnalioth: is my dhcp dead??? i have no idea how this could happen.03:23
p01n7anyone see that &&?03:23
marky_jason i've only been using the synaptic package manager03:23
marky_jason whats bork03:23
naliothmikeazorin: idk, you'll need to test03:23
dg2_blueskyis there any way to fix this video issue03:23
naliothmarky: bork = screw up03:23
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markyi'd be pulling my hair out if i had any03:23
markygonna reinstall ubuntu :(03:24
fluxtlol well that was an interesting movie03:24
pwwmarky: totem-xine used to play WMVs for me, but no longer. Sorry,but I don't know why.03:24
_Jsm||Site_Donecan any one help me with my non ubuntu problem?03:24
rukuarticnickrud: Gyar... I'm no good at using the cool commandline edit tool to fix that03:24
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Xenguymarky: b0rk = bork = borken = broken03:24
nickrudmarky: reinstallling is not a necessary failure; just remember for the next time :)03:24
IdleOne_Jsm||Site_Done>  join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask in there someone may be able to help03:24
antRe nfs "Connection refused" issue - is there a better channel I should be pestering?  (I'm new so pls mention network too)  TIA03:24
markyi'm gonna go for it... wish me luck  , i'll be back hopefully in a few hours03:25
_jasonpww: what happens when you try?03:25
dg2_blueskycan anyone help me03:25
_jasonmarky: good luck03:25
dg2_blueskyI have a square for a mouse on the live cd03:25
IdleOnedg2_bluesky>  whats up?03:25
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markythanks you guys for all your time and help, it is appreciated, thanks for being patient with me :D03:25
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markysee you soon  ,2 hours i imagine03:25
marky;)03:25
dg2_blueskyldleone im new to ubuntu, I have the live cd loaded but my mouse has an issue03:25
mikeazorinWHHHHHHHHHHHHY03:25
nickrudmarky: see you soon03:26
brennerdg2_bluesky: video issues are usually resolved by reconfigging stuff....you can't exactly do that with the live cd03:26
jadaz87tristanmike hot damn it still will not come up03:26
naliothant: ubotu sent you some information in a private message. did you receive it?03:26
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mikeazorinmy entire ubuntu has broken03:26
mikeazorini put so much time into it03:26
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techrushso twice today ubuntu 5.10 has came to a near standstill and i cant figure out why, top and system monitor both showed low cpu usage and lots of free memory03:26
mikeazorinis there a way i can put the 5.10 cd in, and just have it repair everything??03:26
nickrudmikeazorin: broken how?03:26
pww_jason: Complains about bad codecs (Win #9 IIRC). Cannot remember for sure, been a while since trying.03:27
NeverDreamsomeone got your root password out of your installation logs :o03:27
_jasonpww: you have w32codecs?03:27
NeverDreamjus' kiddin' :p03:27
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dg2_blueskybut will i be able to fix this issue if I install it03:27
nickrudNeverDream: you suck big things ;}03:27
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pww_jason: Yes, I installed them sometime ago (Flight3ish?). At some point, I just moved on, it became a less interesting problem for me03:28
fatejudgerI'm using fgrlx, but windows still seem to paint somewhat slowly03:28
regeya_o_O03:28
htrpwhen you add a user and want you delete it, how do you delete it completely?03:28
tristanmikejadaz87, right click it and select properties, and see if everything looks right there...(grasping at straws)03:28
htrpincluding his/her files, etc03:28
fatejudgercan anyone think of anything I'm forgetting?03:28
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Xenguyhtrp: man deluser03:28
sixtymhzman.. wtf is with gmail03:28
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IdleOnehtrp>  system users&groups03:28
nickrudhtrp: sudo deluser <usr> ; sudo rm /home/usr/ -rf (be careful)03:29
IdleOnethen delete the user03:29
mikeazorinnickrud: it won't get to the login screen and i don't know why. i go to recovery mode, and run apt-get upgrade to fix things, but dpkg is jammed with something called "pcmcia-cs" that crashes the computer TERRIBLY whenever it tries to install. i try to do apt-get update to see if my sources are wrong, but it can't resolve any of the addresses, meaning my network drivers aren't loaded, or something's the matter with dhcp. all i did was 03:29
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antnalioth, I didn't realise (said I was new - doh), have seen now, thanks.03:29
concept10just installed samba, when I attempt to start the daemon, it fails with this error: /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 12754 Aborted   Any suggestions?03:29
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naliothmikeazorin: remove pcmcia-cs03:29
nickrudmikeazorin: sudo aptitude remove pcmcia-cs03:30
jadaz87tristanmike Name: Virus Scanner; Comment: scan your computer for viruses; Command: aegis-virus-scanner; Icon: aegis logo; Run in Terminal checkbox is deselected03:30
AngryElfis the reason amarok is so unstable possibly related to the fact that i'm not using KDE?03:30
concept10!samba03:30
ubotuI guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently03:30
mikeazorinnalioth + nickrud: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:30
_jasonAngryElf: why is it unstable?03:30
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AngryElf_jason, takes a while to change songs, hangs occasionally, sometimes doesn't close completely03:31
nickrudmikeazorin: and, if you do that, what happens?03:31
naliothmikeazorin: sudo dpkg -r pcmcia-cs03:31
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naliothnickrud: it hangs on pcmcia-cs03:31
nickrudmikeazorin: see nalioth, should help03:31
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mikeazorinnow i am in a predicament. i can't use internet now, so i can't update ubuntu.03:32
Unityrandom weird question: is it possible to use mice at the same time?03:32
nickrudmikeazorin: is your internet connection on pcmcia?03:32
Unityrandom weird question: is it possible to use TWO mice at the same time?03:32
naliothUnity: yes it is03:32
mikeazorinit03:32
mikeazorinnickrud: i think it's on the motherboard03:33
pwwmikeazorin: Feel like downloading DapperFlight5 install CD? 1/2 :->03:33
orangeyIdleOne: I've read through all that sound debugging stuff, but I've basically been trhough it already.. My key problem: SOMETHING is loading up via82cxxx AND snd_via82xx - i.e., the card is being detected twice for whatever reason. What process does that?03:33
nickrudUnity: just add another stanza to xorg.conf03:33
Unitynalioth: and they both have their own cursor?03:33
naliothUnity: nope, one cursor is drawn between them03:33
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mikeazorinif i download dapperflight5 and install it, will everything be okay?03:33
naliothmikeazorin: you don't install it03:33
Unityoh that's not what i want =(03:33
mikeazorini just livecd it?03:33
brennerdg2_bluesky: no guarantees, but there will be things you can do if it happens with the installed version. have you tried searching the forum?03:33
naliothmikeazorin: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please03:34
Unitynalioth: same applies to keyboards, right? just plug another one and register it into xorg.conf?03:34
naliothUnity: shouldn't have to do anything, just plug it in03:34
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frank23orangey: via82cxxx is for ide not sound03:34
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Raul654Question - I just finished installing Ubuntu 5.10. It didn't come with gcc, so I did an apt-get install gcc (along with all the necessary components)03:35
Raul654it is telling me that libc is installed, but as far as I can tell that's not true03:35
nickrudmikeazorin: during the learning curve, most everyone has reinstalled at least once. If they say not, they were just a lot more experienced :)03:35
IdleOneRaul654>  sudo apt-get install build-essential03:35
Raul654none of the header files are there, and it keeps complaining that things like exit and printf are implicetely defined03:35
Raul654idleone - it says it already has that03:36
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Raul6540 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded03:36
IdleOneRaul654>  beats me sorry :/03:36
Slavickubuntu doesnt detect my network card - cant go online after installation.. and im noob :( i've RTFM but still cant really figure wut to do03:36
mikeazorinBLOODY HELL! i just did apt-get -f dist-upgrade and now i'm jammed on pcmcia-cs again03:37
mikeazorinsave me, somebody03:37
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antnalioth, you'll be pleased to know I scored 3 replies before sussing ubotu.  Well it is getting late here (02:37)03:37
Raul654I wrote a simple C program consisting of one statement - printf("Hi\n"); -- and when I compile it tells me -->  warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf03:37
Raul654which means that stdio.h isn't there03:37
IdleOneSlavick>  System > Administrtion > networking and make sure eth0 is active03:37
Slavickany1?03:37
Slavickok03:37
nickrudmikeazorin: nalioth thinks he can do it for you, join him in #ubuntu-offtopic03:37
Slavickwhat if it isnt03:38
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tritiumRaul654: did you include stdio.h?03:38
concept10Alright, I have started my samba server but cant see my ubuntu box on the windows network., any suggestions?03:38
IdleOneSlavick>  then activate it :)03:38
Slavick;)03:38
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Slavickroger that.03:38
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Raul654doh - trition, you are right about that03:38
Raul654however, I have the same issue with other programs03:38
dg2_blueskyno I have n't not yet03:38
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dg2_blueskyis ubuntu a hard dual boot install?03:39
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orangeyfrank23: oops..03:39
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IdleOne!tell dg2_bluesky  about dualboot03:39
frank23orangey: if you do lsmod | grep via  which modules cause others to be loaded03:39
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pww<dg2_bluesky> It was easy for me: grub detected my windows and all went well.03:40
dg2_blueskythanks idle, I just don't want to have that mouse problem03:40
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dg2_blueskypww did you have a mouse issue03:41
pww<dg2_bluesky> Trickiest part was getting the partitioning right, and qtparted did that nicely.03:41
smighi any/all. if I have ubuntu _and_ kubuntu desktops installed, how do I stop kubuntu splash screens from overriding ubuntu ones?? thnx03:41
pww<dg2_bluesky>Nope, detected my el-cheapo logitech USB like a charm03:41
Raul654tritium - I built mpg123 and got the same error for exit03:41
Raul654audio.c:247: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit03:41
nickrud!usplashchange03:41
ubotuTo change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`".03:41
Raul654Shouldn't the compiler include stdio.h and unistd.h by default?03:41
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nickrudsmig: see ubotu just above03:41
Raul654(it does on almost any other *nix system I've used)03:42
bozdg2_bluesky:  i read up on it a bit in the forums before i attempted it all went well also03:42
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pwwraul654 No, the compiler cannot tell what you want to do... ...if you are writing a device driver, you may not want those!03:42
smigcool. thnx.03:42
tritiumRaul654: no03:42
Raul654ok, then how come mpg123 is giving me this error?03:42
dg2_blueskythanks box03:42
Slavick!tell Slavik get_a_brain03:42
dg2_blueskyboz03:42
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Raul654telling me exit is implicitely defined03:42
ArtimusHow do I disable this adept thing from updating automatically?03:42
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tritiumRaul654: because you need to include the header file.  Why are you building it, by the way?03:42
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Raul654tritium - because I couldn't apt-get it03:43
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tritium!info mpg12303:43
ubotumpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB03:43
tritiumRaul654: ^^^03:43
Raul654mark@Akki:~$ sudo apt-get install mpg12303:43
Raul654Reading package lists... Done03:43
Raul654Building dependency tree... Done03:43
Raul654Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:43
bozthe tricky part for me was making part of my ubuntu free space a partition marked as Home, so hopefully if i have to do a reinstall, i won't lose any personal information03:43
tritiumRaul654: don't paste, please.03:43
Raul654sorry03:43
Sionidewhat other decent same-idea apps are there instead of Audacity?03:44
tritium!tell Raul654 about repositories03:44
pwwMy n00b Q: When sending keys to launchpad, do I need to specify a server (if so, what?) or is the default GPG target server OK?03:44
crimsun!info mpg123-oss-i48603:44
ubotumpg123-oss-i486: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player for i486 machines), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 268 kB03:44
nazgulwalkerwhere can i download java sdk (compiler) for ubuntu amd6403:44
nickrudArtimus: /etc/cron.daily/apt , edit that03:44
jadaz87!java03:44
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:44
jadaz87!javadebs03:45
tritiumRaul654: set yourself up with the multiverse repo, then you should be fine.03:45
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boznazgulwalker: or use automatix ; )03:45
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silvaranHow do I get dpkg to skip the preuninst/postuninst scripts?03:45
jadaz87!tell nazgulwalker about javadebs03:45
nickrudArtimus: um after reading, create /etc/apt/apt.conf, and add the line APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=003:45
naliothRaul654: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin (wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules)03:45
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zzzjoin #ubuntu-fr03:47
nazgulwalkeri need the compiler "javac" .03:47
FunnyLookinHatnazgulwalker, try searching synaptic for javac03:47
nazgulwalkerboz : what is automatix03:47
nalioth!automatix03:47
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.03:47
CyorxampHey folks - is there a dapper ubuntu channels?03:47
bozthanks nailoth03:47
silvaranCyorxamp: #ubuntu+103:47
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nickrudArtimus: additonally add the APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages=003:47
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nazgulwalkersynaptic could'nt find javac03:48
tristanmike!tell Cyorxamp about dapper03:48
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Cyorxamptristanmike, I think on reply will do thank you03:48
FunnyLookinHatnazgulwalker, sudo apt-get install javacc is what you wanna do i think03:48
GURThow can i capture a video frame with wxvlc ?03:48
boznailoth:  is that ubotu info old?  It looked to me like they done some work on it the last time i used it?03:48
mikeazorinunable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1); the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.03:48
_Jsm any one require any of my noob help?03:48
nickrudboz: what it comes down to is that no one here is willing to support what automatix does.03:49
bozahhhh03:49
nazgulwalkerFunnyLookinHat it says "not avaible"03:50
_Jsmwww.freenode.net03:50
_Jsmsoz;)03:50
mikeazorinmy dpkg is broken again. parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 206 package acpi-support03:50
nickrudboz: the writers of automatix should provide their own support channel03:50
bozlol, true03:50
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FunnyLookinHatnazgulwalker, then you need to enable universe and multiverse repos..03:51
criminyhas anyone gotten an ipod to work in ubuntu?03:51
FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell nazgulwalker about easysource03:51
tristanmike!tell criminy about ipod03:51
criminyit's a 5G..I get: sd 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device03:51
jadaz87criminy they have a ipod pkg for ubuntu let me find out the name of it03:52
naliothboz: nalioth.hostdestoyer.com/comparison.html03:52
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YukiCusscriminy, gtkpod03:52
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revolutionaryhello03:52
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mikeazorinsh**! i broke my inodes again! how the heck could this happeN??03:52
YukiCusscriminy, mine works fine. :)03:52
criminyI don't even get that far03:52
criminyI can't mount my ipod03:52
YukiCussUSB?03:52
YukiCussor firewire? (criminy?)03:52
jadaz87yeah go to add application and search for gtkpod as yukicuss said03:53
YukiCussOr just sudo apt-get install gtkpod03:53
jadaz87hello revolutionary03:53
criminyI've got a  line called ieee1394 in my /proc/devices but I had no idea I had firewire (if I have it)03:53
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criminyend_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 5860493803:54
criminyI'm getting lines like that in dmesg03:54
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tristanmikecriminy, is the cord a "usb" cord, or something different, with a smaller end ?03:54
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revolutionaryim so sick of iptables and ftp03:54
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criminyit is a USB cord03:55
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revolutionaryanyone know the proper way to allow wget ftp client thru the firewall?03:55
criminyhuh. I just assumed it came with firewire. But it is USB03:55
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jadaz87revolutionary open ports 20-2103:55
revolutionaryi did03:56
boznailoth:  lol page said you haven't paid your bill.03:56
jadaz87revolutionary those are the default ports for ftp03:56
YukiCussrevolutionary, export ftp_proxy=http://123.123.123.123:1234/03:56
bozlol jk dead link03:56
petaruwaruCan anyone help me fix my Opera Browser? I installed it, and it worked fine for awile, but now I click on the icon and nothing happens03:56
CyorxampLo folks, will dapper have a tool for managing your video cards (even multiple) and monitors/screens (even multiples) ???03:56
CyorxampI am speaking in general here - many pc's some have dual head gphx cards, others have 2 gphfx cards... some pc's use 3 minotrs, others 2, others 103:56
Cyorxampand well windows can handle all this no problems - wondering if theres anything in the pipeline03:56
Cyorxampdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just doesnt cut it03:56
revolutionaryYukiCuss, ?03:56
criminyI've got /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, and /dev/sda2; but mounting them gives me problems03:56
YukiCussrevolutionary, if you have an ftp proxy, you might consider it.03:56
jadaz87cyorxamp you should ask that question in #ubuntu+103:56
Cyorxampjadaz87, they are all dead03:57
revolutionarywould sysctl options block ftp?03:57
YukiCussunlikely.03:57
nazgulwalkeri installed javacc but it is different form javac as i used to ?03:57
nazgulwalkeri installed javacc but it is different from javac as i used to ?03:57
htrpis console = terminal ?03:57
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revolutionarycould you take a look at this script and help me find whats keeping it from working?03:57
markyi made it03:58
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kfirbhtrp: as far as I know, yes03:58
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mikeazorinwhy have my inodes broken twice in 5 hours?03:58
revolutionary?03:58
petaruwaruCan somone help me get a program working? It was working up until today, now it wont run03:58
mikeazorintell me?03:58
jadaz87hmmm i should try and install xampp on ubuntu03:58
marky_jason03:59
revolutionaryla la la la......... ;)03:59
criminyanybody?03:59
petaruwaruanybody lend a n00b a hand?03:59
mikeazorincriminy: what problems03:59
kfirbwhich tiny torrent client which is better than the gnome's basic one is recommended for ubuntu?03:59
criminymount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod/ takes a long time then it stops with "You must specify the filesystem type"03:59
criminybut even when I do that I get other erros03:59
criminyand dmesg tells me sd 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device03:59
jadaz87kfirb microtorrent03:59
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mikeazorindoes /mnt/ipod exist?04:00
kfirbjadaz87: can I use apt-get for it?04:00
criminyYes04:00
petaruwaruanyone help a n00b get a program working?04:00
jadaz87i do not know actually04:00
mikeazorinwhat filesystem is it? fat32?04:00
criminyYes04:00
criminyI've tried it in windows04:00
rnd_nulli just installed ubuntu and root has a password set to it already....how do i fix that?04:00
criminyand in the ipod it says "windows version"04:00
markyrnd_null imposible04:00
truz24rnd_null, sudo passwd root04:00
rnd_nullno way04:01
rnd_nullok04:01
markyi just reinstalled you have to set it04:01
jadaz87rnd_null the root password is the password of the initial account that you made04:01
silvaranubotu: tell rnd_null about root04:01
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revolutionarydoes ftp need icmp allowed?04:01
jadaz87kfirb if not you will have to download it04:01
silvaranrnd_null: there is no root password... "sudo" wants your user password.  without a root password you can't su, or log in directly as root.04:01
rnd_nullok04:01
rnd_nullthank you04:01
criminyno idea?04:01
oblibanyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads04:02
mikeazorincriminy: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod -t fat32 -o nls=utf8,umask=022204:02
markycan someome gimmie i link to those codecs with the string, so i can play wmvs,04:02
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petaruwarucan somebody give me some help? My Opera web browser stopped working recently, it won't start.04:02
criminyno dice04:03
Icemanfudge, why cant there be a full linux distro that supports fat32 for a install filesystem .. used to be a couple04:03
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criminyis it mount: /dev/sda2 is not a valid block device04:03
markyubotu tell marky about win3204:03
petaruwarucan somone tell me how to fix it, or even how to just delete it so I can reinstall it?04:03
criminysd 7:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device04:03
criminyI get more of those lines in dmesg04:03
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markybrb04:03
oblibpetaruwaru, did you install it with synaptic?04:04
mikeazorincriminy: what does your ipod say? okay to disconnect?04:04
criminy"Do not disconnect"04:04
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mikeazorinhmmm...04:04
nazgulwalkeri have installed "j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin" from java.sun.com but i couldn't installed it ; is it because i use ubuntu AMD64?04:04
mikeazorinnot sure04:04
petaruwaruoblib, no, from the package on the website04:04
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oblibpetaruwaru, opera04:05
criminysd 7:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x5000004:05
criminyend_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 5860493804:05
oblibopera's site?04:05
criminyI get that earlier too04:05
petaruwaruyes04:05
oblibpetaruwaru, does it have you run an install script, or do you compile it?04:05
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oblibI haven't used it myself04:06
criminyI'm running out of ideas =04:06
criminy=\04:06
laurinhi, i try to add winxp to grub but whatever i do i doesn't work :(04:06
petaruwaruoblib, it's already installed, I ran dpkg, if that tells you anything04:06
oblibbut you watned to uninstall it04:06
petaruwaruoblib I'm not entirely familier with all the linux terminology yet04:06
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oblibpetaruwaru, oh, it's a dpkg package04:06
petaruwaruoblib, no I just want to get it working again, it stopped working04:06
transgressokay anyone here yet that might know why i can't get gnome to start?  it hangs at the splash screen... i was having problems with nautilus and moved the .nautilus and it wouldn't start04:06
oblib.deb04:06
danny-khihow to pronunce ubuntu?04:06
transgressi moved .nautilus back and it still hangs...04:06
transgressuh buhn two04:07
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transgresserr i think it's ew buhn two04:07
oblibpetaruwaru, what does it say if you try to run it from a command prompt04:07
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rnd_nullhow do fix this...it's telling me, while trying to install Nvidia drivers, that it needs an 'ld' command, so, where is 'ld' or how do i set it to my path? (this is day #1 of running linux.....ever)04:07
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danny-khiyouhh buntu?04:07
Franciscosome body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...04:07
danny-khior ooooh buntu?04:07
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laurinrnd_null: sudo apt-get install build-essentials04:07
petaruwaruoblib, I feel like a huge n00b for asking this, but... how do you run it from the command prompt?04:08
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laurinthat should do it04:08
chaoticgeekhello all04:08
rnd_nullthank you04:08
danny-khiou buntu?04:08
chaoticgeekI kinda like drapper drake04:08
petaruwaruoblib, just "run opera"?04:08
oblibApplications -> accessories -> terminal. Then I would guess just type opera04:08
oblibtry ope then 'tab'04:08
danny-khiPlease help me because I am writing a post about it on my blog and I need to know how to pronounce it so that i could write it in urdu04:08
oblibit should auto complete04:08
petaruwaruoblib, I know how to get to terminal, just not how to use half of it >.<04:08
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crouchingMonkeyanyone here good with wine that wants to give me a hand ?04:09
oblibpetaruwaru, then try 'opera' then enter04:09
oblibminus quotes of course04:09
jadaz87!tell crouchingmonkey about wine04:09
rnd_nulllauren, it says it cant find the package04:09
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petaruwaruoblib, alright, it just gave me an error04:09
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mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: what is your problem04:09
danny-khi!tell danny-khi about ubuntu04:09
oblibpetaruwaru, a long one?04:09
petaruwaruoblib, ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.04:09
petaruwaruERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.04:09
petaruwaruSegmentation fault04:09
markyman , i forgot my password, is there a way of reseting it?04:09
crouchingMonkeymikeazorin, im getting an error when i run an .exe file with wine04:10
petaruwaruoblib, yea, just a bit04:10
oblibpetaruwaru, and it used to work?04:10
rnd_nulllaurin, it says it couldn't find the package04:10
_jasonmarky: you can reset it04:10
mikeazorinyou are running it from terminal, right?04:10
petaruwaruoblib, yes04:10
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laurinrnd_null: wait a mom04:10
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petaruwaruoblib, although, it used to give me a weird error message whenever I ran it04:10
oblibpetaruwaru, looks like you hosed something on accident, any idea what you have been doing that would mess things up?04:10
marky_jason how do i do that?04:10
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: cd to the folder the exe is in, and type wine [app] .exe04:10
crouchingMonkeyhere take a look at ti mikeazorin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031604:11
_jasonmarky: reboot in 'recovery mode' and run 'passwd your_username'04:11
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crouchingMonkeyit*04:11
laurinrnd_null: sudo atp-get install build-essential04:11
bimberidanny-khi: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq04:11
marky_jason nah, my nickserv password04:11
pwwNever mind, think I got it: pgp.mit.edu or keyserver.ubuntu.com....04:11
petaruwaruoblib, nothing I can think of, the only thing that I've done since then is mess with my gnome theme and try to find a package to make quicktime files play in firefox04:11
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: there are other usenet services designed for linux04:11
laurinrnd_null: apt-get sry ^^04:11
oblibpetaruwaru, have you installed java?04:12
laurinit's just a little bit late ^^04:12
_jasonmarky: oh, I believe there is some way to do it if you set up an email for the account.  You may want to ask in #freenode04:12
petaruwaruoblib, don't think so04:12
oblibpetaruwaru, "find a package to make quicktime files play in firefox" could maybe mess things up04:12
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crouchingMonkeymikeazorin, i know im just doing this for fun, i wanna learn more about using wine :)04:12
rnd_nulllaurin, thank you, it's installing now04:12
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oblibpetaruwaru, both of those .so files are related to java04:12
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petaruwaruoblib, how so? I just used synaptic04:12
rnd_nulllaurin, will this put itin the path too?04:12
marky_jason , now i remebr before you asked ubotu to tell me about wmvs can you do it again so i can get the codecs?04:12
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: well, when it says something's not implemented it usually means there's not much hope :-/04:12
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_jasonubotu: tell marky about w32codecs04:13
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laurinrnd_null: yes i think so04:13
_jasonmarky: and for totem to use them you need to install totem-xine by the way04:13
rnd_nulllaurin, ok, thank you :)04:13
petaruwaruoblib, k, so what should I do, try installing java to get those two files?04:13
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Montecristohi04:13
oblibpetaruwaru, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java04:13
crouchingMonkeythx mikeazorin :) good thing to remember04:13
rnd_nullsudo -i04:13
jadaz87hello montecristo04:13
rnd_nulloops04:13
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oblibpetaruwaru, that has intructions to install java04:13
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criminyif anyone has an idea PM me04:14
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oblibif you still have problems04:14
marky_jason now this is a clean install i was gonna get the codecs then get mplayer04:14
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: although, there are often ways to configure the application to bypass the functions that are not implemtned04:14
Montecristoit's mi first time here04:14
oblibpetaruwaru, maybe try reinstalling first04:14
oblibpetaruwaru, are you tehre?04:14
oblibthere?04:14
Montecristoand i'm totally new in linux04:14
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: if there is a config file, it's possible that there is a way to leave that part out04:14
_jasonMontecristo: welcome04:14
laurinok, now my problem: i added winows to the menu.lst but grub simply hangs04:14
crouchingMonkeyHas anyone here managed to run Guild Wars in Wine? becaues i got it to work with cedega04:14
petaruwaruoblib, yea04:14
Montecristoi have two questions04:14
MadpilotMontecristo, welcome - but please don't use your ENTER key as punctuation, thanks :P04:14
Franciscosome body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...04:15
Franciscosome body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...04:15
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petaruwaruoblib, try reinstalling opera you mean?04:15
oblibpetaruwaru, yeah04:15
_jasonFrancisco: sudo aptitude remove libqt3-mt04:15
oblibpetaruwaru, how did you install it? did you get a .deb file?04:15
petaruwaruoblib, yes04:15
Francisco_jason, taks04:15
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Montecristo1.- any one how speak spanish? 2.- where i can find a codec "x264" of video?04:16
Madpilot!es04:16
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:16
mikeazorincrouchingmonkey: appdb.winehq.org has a good library of what generally runs and what generally doesn't04:16
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Montecristothanks04:16
oblibpetaruwaru, then from the command prompt you should be able to remove it with 'sudo dpkg -P name-of-package"04:16
crouchingMonkeycool04:16
oblibpetaruwaru, the name of t he package is probably just opera04:16
petaruwaruoblib, kk04:17
Madpilotpetaruwaru, are you trying to install Opera?04:17
petaruwarumadpilot, reinstalling it, it stopped working04:17
kfirbmicotorrent is currently only for win, any other reccomendations for a bittorent client for ubuntu ?04:18
OmegaAlphaMontecristo, cheers on the name.. i love that story and the movie is kickass04:18
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oblibfeelf ree to take over Madpilot04:18
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oblibI don't know what I'm talking about04:18
Madpilotpetaruwaru, you've seen the Opera wiki page?04:18
mikeazorinkfirb: microtorrent runs great through wine04:18
_jasonOmegaAlpha: maybe he likes the sandwich :)04:18
petaruwarumadpilot, yes, I used it to install it the first time04:18
mikeazorinkfirb: otherwise you can use what's built in, but it has no features04:18
OmegaAlpha_jason, lol that would be funny if thatwere the case04:18
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kfirbmikeazorin: isn't it a bit too heavy to run things through wine?04:19
Madpilotpetaruwaru, what broke?04:19
rnd_nullis there an easy walkthrough somewhere for installing video drivers?04:19
Madpilotbrb04:20
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petaruwarumadpilot, it just stopped working04:20
mikeazorinkfirb: heavy? wine is virtualization, it has little effect on ram consumption. besides, microtorrent is damn tiny, so you'll be fine04:20
_jasonrnd_null: what card?04:20
OmegaAlphaany astronomy geeks like me in here? im looking for a good satellite tracking software.. i got a couple but they are a bit confusing..04:20
rnd_null_jason, Nvidia04:20
_jasonubotu: tell rnd_null about nvidia04:20
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zembeeHow do I get the /dev/usb serial devices?04:20
petaruwaruoblib, just reinstalled, still not working04:20
rnd_null_jason, thx04:21
oblibpetaruwaru, you removed it and then installed it again?04:21
oblibpetaruwaru, no errors?04:21
kfirbmikeazorin: it always seemed strange to me trying to run win software on linux.. I guess I'll give it a shot.. how do I install win applications over wine?04:21
leogibsonhey im using gnome, how can i adjust the scale of my toolbars and menus, like with <ctrl> -,+ <scroll> in IE ?04:21
petaruwaruoblib, yes04:21
LeeJunFanI'm trying to netboot and failing at the nfs root dir. using syslinux/pxelinux I get the kernel and initrd fine but can't mount / - anyone else successful with this?04:21
mikeazorinkfirb: utorrent does not require installation. it's just a single .exe file.04:21
mikeazorinkfirb: do you have wine installed already?04:22
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leogibsoni know theres a program...04:22
kfirbmikeazorin: oh, wonderful... thanks... and installing wine I guess is detailed in the wiki support..04:22
oblibpetaruwaru, then my only other recommendation besides installing java is to uninstall it again, and then install it with apt-get as explained in the wiki04:22
petaruwaruoblib, I tried to install Blackdown Java from apt-get and it won't work04:22
_Jsmcan some one do me a quick favour if their not busy join #soldner-vb and see if it asks for a pw04:22
oblibpetaruwaru, I don't konw what that it04:22
oblibis04:22
OmegaAlphaok i know i mentioned this before like a hundred times.. but when you install something via terminal.. and the software doesnt put icons in the applications menu.. how do you get it so it does? i know of aptitude but that is kinda confusing to my linux virgin eyes when looking at "installed packages"04:23
petaruwaruoblib, thats the java version it has in the wiki, besides sun04:23
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oblibpetaruwaru, the java you need is not listed because it's proprietary (unrestricted)04:23
oblibsun is the one you want I think04:23
techrushsun needs to open source java already04:23
pwwkfirb If you want to run Windows apps, it may be worth spending the $ to get cxoffice from CodeWeavers...04:23
FalstiusOmegaAlpha, you can right click on the application bar and run "edit menu"04:23
CyorxampLo folks, I am running Ubuntu and I could do with assistance in getting some extra monitors to work.  On the 1st PC I have a i810 compat onboard vga and a rivatnt card (pci) which I need both working - so far just i180.  On 2nd PC I have a savage (dual head) compat card (pci) and a ati (v.basic) agp card... just got the ati working on that not the other 2 heads on the savage.  ANY help would be great!04:23
_jasonOmegaAlpha: things only get shortcuts if the package has them.  You can use system tools > applications menu editor to create them for packages that don't have them04:23
petaruwaruoblib, damnit the installation instructions are a bitch though >.<04:24
pwwkfirb ...it's wine with a really friendly face. That's what I did, since I still rely on some win apps for my work...04:24
oblibpetaruwaru, yeah, they're pretty good04:24
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pwwkfirb ...but hopefully not for much longer.04:24
transgressokay i needs teh help04:24
FalstiusCyorxamp: you probably need to hand edit the xorg.conf file and include a seperate section for each monitor and videocard.  xGoogle for xinerama.04:24
transgressplease... for the love of god... someone give me some suggestions...04:24
OmegaAlphaFalstius, _jason thanks! im still learning the features of ubuntu and what they do.. SO MANY so dont mind me with the dumb questions.. its most likely i havent got around to exploring evreythign yet04:24
Madpilotpetaruwaru, try renaming your .opera folder, that'll set all of Opera's stuff back to default, then reinstall04:24
kfirbpww: I just wanted a tiny bittorrent client, that will work..04:25
_jasonOmegaAlpha: the only dumb question is the one not asked :)04:25
oblibpetaruwaru, when you say you tried blakcdown java and it doesn't work does that mean opera doesn't work or blackdown?04:25
_jasontransgress: create a new user04:25
transgresswas having trouble with nautilus... kicked gnome, moved the .nautilus file... then it wouldn't start ... it'd just hang at the splash screen... i moved the file back... same problem04:25
pwwkfirb Oh, no native bittorrent clients that meet your needs under Ubuntu? Seems built in to me04:25
OmegaAlpha_jason, my 10th grade algebra teacher used to live by that motto. she had posters of it everywher ein the room04:25
leogibsonanyone know how i can adjust the size of my toolbars and menus in ubuntu gnome?04:26
petaruwaruoblib, blackdown java04:26
oblibpetaruwaru, to rename like Madpilot says, 'mv .opera .opera_old'04:26
petaruwaruoblib, gives me an error when I tryed to apt-get it04:26
oblibpetaruwaru, so it wouldn't install?04:26
OmegaAlpha_jason, so very true though.. ok then on that note.. dont mind my questions that i didnt ask :)04:26
petaruwaruoblib, yea04:26
_jasonOmegaAlpha: will do04:26
oblibpetaruwaru, dependency?04:26
naliothubotu: tell petaruwaru about javadebs04:26
Madpilotpetaruwaru, you can't apt-get either Opera or Sun Java04:26
naliothubotu: tell oblib about javadebs04:26
Madpilotpetaruwaru, not by default, anyway04:26
pwwkfirb If you just want such an app, probably not worth spending $ for cxoffice (only makes sense to continue getting value out of win apps you paid for before)04:26
transgress_jason: same problem with the new user... that's really odd04:26
kfirbpww: I just look for a simple one that will do the job, got several recomendation for mcrotorrent04:27
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_jasontransgress: did gnome ever work?04:27
oblibanyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads04:27
kfirbpww: as far as I know, the microtorrent is a freeware04:27
transgress_jason: was working a few minutes ago.  i've had ubuntu on this box since the day hoary came out04:27
transgressi'ma reboot04:27
transgressbrb04:27
oblibpetaruwaru, try renaming your .opera file and see if that fixes it04:27
leogibsonxfce4?04:27
petaruwaruoblib, trying to find it now04:28
oblibfrom the command prompt04:28
PhuzionWhat would I have to CHMOD a directory to in order for apache2 to be able to write to it?04:28
_jasontransgress: well I've heard of that problem being cause because of video driver problems.  Try using VESA as the video driver to see if that's the cause04:28
oblib'cd ~'  and then  'mv .opera .opera_old'04:28
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oblibnalioth, can you help me with the USB question?04:28
pwwkfirb You need it to run under win or lin? Under lin, bittorrent is part of main, in networking section...04:29
FalstiusPhuzion: you could do a chown to www-data:www-data (or whatever user you set in your config file)04:29
pwwkfirb ...works automagically for me when I open a *.torrent file04:29
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PhuzionFalstius:  I need a user named greed to be able to write to it as well...04:29
Madpilotpetaruwaru, to get Nautilus to show hidden files, hit Ctrl+H04:30
PhuzionIs there such a thing as split ownership or something?04:30
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petaruwaruk04:30
FalstiusPhuzion, you Could do "sudo chmod a+w" ... but that isn't so great for security.04:30
Phuziona+w?04:30
FalstiusPhuzion: "all add write"04:30
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oblibAnyone?04:30
oblibanyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads04:30
PhuzionOuch04:30
marky_jason can you tell me that think about replacing totem in firefox again please?04:30
leogibsonid hate to try and hijack any further, but can anyone suggest an app that doesent reside in the system menu default that can change the size of my GUI windows and menus??04:30
_jasonubotu: tell marky about replacetotem04:30
FalstiusPhuzion: just don't put anything in there you don't want somebody deleting :)04:31
leogibsonim scraping the forums for this04:31
Franciscocan you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??04:31
NeverDreamubotu: tell me about replacetotem04:31
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marky_jason thanks04:31
TruckdriverN E 1 know info 4 d/l upgrade from ubuntu 5.1 Fx 1.07 to Fx 1.704:31
fuzcould anybody please give me a hand with an ATI Xgl issue?  #ubuntu-xgl is totally idle and the wiki solutions just aren't panning out...04:31
_jasonTruckdriver: 1.7?04:32
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mian1akwhat file is used first when booting?04:32
TruckdriverFire fox 1.7 yes from 1.0.704:32
_jasonTruckdriver: is 1.7 even in development?  do you mean 1.5?04:33
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petaruwaruoblib, alright, I can't rename it, the option is unselectable. It's cause I'm not in root right?04:33
PhuzionIs there a way to list all groups on my server?04:33
petaruwaruoblib, or not running sudo04:33
TruckdriverU R right 1.504:33
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_jasonubotu: tell Truckdriver about ff1.504:33
oblibpetaruwaru, hmm it shouldn't be04:33
oblibpetaruwaru, did you try from a command line?04:33
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transgressfixed it04:33
mr_politeive got a pentium machine with 32mb of ram,. the ubuntu install errors out loading the libraries for the NIC. any tips?04:33
V4Vendetta!ff1.504:34
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:34
petaruwaruoblib, no04:34
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oblibpetaruwaru, type 'ls -l opera' from the command line and tell me the permissions04:34
!lilo:*! Modified: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#behaviorandcloaks .... clarified freenode policy on the retention of unaffiliated cloaks in connection with behavioral issues04:34
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Titanjoin #warcraft04:34
oblibthey look like -rw-r--r--04:34
Titan>.<04:34
petaruwaruoblib ...it says "no such file or directory"04:34
oblibsorry do .opera04:35
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oblibls -l .opera04:35
Drac[Away] What's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?04:35
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petaruwaruoblib, gives me a realy long list of stuff04:35
Franciscocan you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??04:36
Franciscocan you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??04:36
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GrarkAre there any good "quicken" alternatives on ubuntu?04:36
guruHi04:36
kfirbpww: yes, but if you d/l multiple torrents, it opens in seperate windwos + you can't get much statistics (about peers etc..)04:36
Franciscosudo apt-get install aptitude04:36
gurui am new here is this like a reguler chat rooms or is it just for Linux04:36
Franciscoestabien04:36
oblibpetaruwaru, yeah just realized that. lets just try renaming it -- mv .opera .opera_old04:36
Titananyone here play World of Warcraft on Ubuntu?04:36
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pwwkfirb Oh, I thought you wanted simple! :-> Sorry, bittorrent works for my simple needs.04:37
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petaruwaruoblib, alright, now what?04:37
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oblibpetaruwaru, no errors? Then try running opera04:37
oblibpetaruwaru, you didn't have to 'sudo' it right?04:38
guruexiting04:38
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petaruwaruoblib, no I didn04:38
OmegaAlphafuz, I have ATI maybe I can help you04:38
petaruwaruoblib, ran again, got the same error04:38
petaruwaruoblib, opera again that is04:38
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petaruwaruoblib, should I just try and do java now? do you think that would solve my problem?04:39
hectorhola a todos04:39
rukuartichector: hables espanol?04:39
OmegaAlphafuz, anything to do with Direct Rendering . 3d acceleration?04:39
oblibpetaruwaru, that means it is something wrong with the system. It's segmentation fault that is killing you, not necessarily the java errors04:40
petaruwaruoblib, so what can I do about that?04:40
oblibI would try doing an apt-get install of opera first, so remove it with dkpg, and follow the instructions on the wiki04:40
petaruwaruoblib, k04:40
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oblibI gotta bail04:40
petaruwaruoblib, what about my system problems?04:40
oblibpetaruwaru, good luck04:40
petaruwaruoblib, k, thanks for all the help04:41
fuzyes! please... i'm trying to get my 9800SE to run Xgl.04:41
oblibpetaruwaru, not sure -- still just something affecting opera04:41
fuzbeen a bit of a nightmare04:41
Grark!gnucash04:41
ubotuhmm... gnucash is a personal finance manager developed at gnucash.org04:41
oblibpetaruwaru, keep trying here (I don't know that much)04:41
petaruwaruoblib, k, I guess I'll figure it out eventually04:41
petaruwaruoblib, you know more than I do04:41
oblibpetaruwaru, and use firefox until then?  :)04:41
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petaruwaruoblib, yea04:41
Grarkubotu, is it part of the apt-get?04:41
ubotuGrark: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:41
petaruwaruoblib, guess I'll split to then04:41
oblibpetaruwaru, all it takes to learn what I know is to try to set up MythTV. Whew04:42
intelikeyi got a memo.  "Frogzoo asked me to pass this:seems the problem with libproc is bad file permissions (needs 755)'  i tested it.  didn't change a thing.  in fact that was already the permission on my libproc* file.      i don't think it actually has anything at all to do with libproc, even though that is the error message.   i think it is shell related.    or possably a dangling symlink some place.04:42
PhuzionHow would I go about adding a user to a group?04:42
rukuarticYou guys able to reccomend an explorer with the functionality of firefox, but a lighter load on memory/processer?04:42
_jasonGrark: gnucash is in universe04:42
leogibsoncan anyone reccomend a more adjustable desktop environment than the default gnome with ubuntu?04:42
leogibsonshot in the dark04:42
_jasonleogibson: kde I suppose04:42
leogibsonanything04:42
leogibsonno04:42
Phuzionrukuartic:  Might I suggest you either get more RAM, or not use the verison of FX that has the memory leak.04:42
leogibsonthats for gnome04:42
GrarkThanks _jason04:42
tritiumGrark: there's also grisbi04:42
_jasonleogibson: huh?04:42
fuzOmegaAlpha, can you help me with an Xgl issue?04:42
intelikeyleogibson kde04:43
rukuarticPhuzion: What, 256 isn't enough? XD04:43
Grarkwhich one is closer to quicken if you know?04:43
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leogibsonim using gnome, i dont like kde, but i want gnome to have more options for resizing its menus toolbars ect04:43
PhuzionIf you're having memory issues, then it might not be.04:43
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fluxtleogibson, fluxbox ?04:43
kfirbpww: well, I guess not that simple, but a most important a 'light' onw04:43
leogibsonok thank you04:43
reggaemanuleogibson, epiphanie, galeon, ...04:43
Phuzionrukuartic:  On my Windows machine, I'm running 1280 MB, but that's because it's primarily used for web development with like somewhere near 40 programs open at once, and gaming on the side.04:44
leogibsonmuch obliged04:44
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Toma-fuz: try #xgl or #ubuntu+104:44
fluxtleogibson, resizing menus of gnome/kde apps are part of gnome/kde04:44
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intelikeyleogibson e15 ?04:44
fuzok. thx toma04:44
rukuarticPhuzion: I'm running a really l33t server... 1.2ghz/256 mb ram running on a toaster with wireless lan04:44
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reggaemanuepiphany*04:44
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fluxte15 is pretty :)04:44
rukuarticPhuzion: Every time I go tomake breakfast, all the kiddies on the server are like "LAAAAG"04:44
Nunquam_FidelisCan someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?04:44
leogibsonall research all of these thanks for the input04:44
GrarkThanks again folks!04:45
userbn_psek04:45
Phuzionrukuartic:  I read that last part as "wireless ram" which made me chuckle, because my friend picked up my PCI 802.11G card one day and asked if it was "wireless ram"04:45
fluxtand you said "yes"04:45
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rukuarticPhuzion: Wireless ram would be awesome04:46
V4Vendettaisn't all ram wireless04:46
V4Vendettalmfao ..04:46
rukuarticPhuzion: Don't even have to install it, just stick it on your desk... move around from place to place...04:46
rukuarticV4Vendetta: Not in that sense04:46
reggaemanuleogibson, there is flock too04:46
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reggaemanubased on gecko (as epiphany and galeon)04:46
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PhuzionV4Vendetta:  Technically, yeah, lol.04:46
V4Vendettabaobab is a great program04:46
FranciscoI need help04:46
intelikey!helpme04:47
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.04:47
rnd_nullok, so i used the synaptic package manager install the nvidia drivers just the wiki help file said to...but, according to file, it didn't work.  now some things wont work either, like the synaptic program and it also wont let me adjust my clock...any ideas?04:47
mian1akin the basic shell instilation, after a little while the screen turns itself off, i have cjecked the bios and it is set to always be on, can someone tell me the config file used to do this so i can dissable it?04:47
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leogibsonflux, how do i resize these menus and stuff in gnome without installing an x manager04:48
Franciscowhen I star ubuntu I should see the screen whit ubuntu typed. and it is not there.. I see a screen with the welcome of kubuntu. can any one help me?04:48
_jasonubotu: tell Francisco about usplashchange04:48
flodineanyone use a tv card and zapping04:49
_jasonFrancisco: wait, which screen exactly?  the login one or the splash screen?04:49
jmintacan anyone tell me what i need to do to get my mouse theme working in dapper? it disappear when i upgraded04:49
Francisco_jason, the fist when it stars..04:50
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leogibsonhow do i resize these menus and stuff in gnome without installing an x manager a big reason i installed ubuntu is to have more control over the size of the desktop, i mean all these people always have screenshots of massive desktop space with tiny toolbars and stuff04:50
Franciscobreofre when you longin04:50
DraconicusWhat's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?04:50
leogibsonhow do i change this in gnome? i cant find it in the system or anything menus04:50
_jasonFrancisco: ok, for that you can jsut follow ubotu's instructions04:50
intelikeymian1ak check your bios more closely.  if you are talking about 'console mode' (without xorg) there is no screen saver that i know of.  it is bios.    and always on in bios does not mean that it is not blank, only that it is not powered off.04:50
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rukuarticmian1ak: if you're using screen you can lock it with ctrl+x04:50
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Nunquam_FidelisCan someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?04:51
Francisco_jason, I installed the kkubuntu desktop but I have removed ." but even today I see it.."04:51
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_jasonFrancisco: did you get a private message from ubotu?04:51
Francisco_jason, yeah."04:51
_jasonFrancisco: did you try doing what he said?04:51
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Francisco_jason,  and now when I want install amarok it says there is not a candidant04:52
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mark__Anyone know where I can get a pre built VNC04:52
leogibsoncan anyone point me in the direction as to where in gnome i can modify the size of my desktop invironment, NOT THE RESOLUTION, but the scale of everything like in windows: appearances menu in the desktop properties??04:52
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_jasonFrancisco: let's take care of one thing at a time.  let me know if ubotu's instructions fix your usplash problem04:53
_jason!info vnc04:53
mark__!info vnc04:53
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_jasonoops, read that as vlc for some reason04:53
leogibsoni wish i could be in windows so i could take a screenshot for everyone to see04:53
_jasonmark__: ubuntu comes with vino vnc I believe04:53
leogibsonand put a big arrow on what im talking about inaint p04:53
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leogibsonmaybe ill go search the forums how to do that in ubuntu04:54
intelikey!tell mark__ about repos04:54
_jasonleogibson: you can take screenshots.  Press the PrntScrn button04:54
oklinuxany one use efax in ubuntu ?04:54
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leogibsonyes, i would have guess such04:54
mark__jason: Does it have a web server light tight vnc ?04:54
tristanmikeleogibson, you mean change the size of the panels ?04:54
leogibsonguessed04:54
leogibsonyes04:54
leogibsoni think?!04:54
leogibson!!!04:54
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leogibson04:54
Madpilotleogibson, try pressing the Print Screen key :P04:54
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_jason!info tightvncserver04:54
ubotutightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB04:54
leogibsonI JUST WANT MY TOOLBARS TO BE SMALLER04:55
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tristanmikeleogibson, press "alt+print screen" to capture a screenshot of the current active window04:55
_jasonubotu: tell mark__ about universe04:55
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leogibsoni know how to take screenshots jesus04:55
_jasonmark__:                           universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size:04:55
_jasonhrmm04:55
Madpilotleogibson, right-click on them, choose Properties, set the height04:55
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tritiumleogibson: calm down, and be polite please04:55
Francisco_jason, the first step works but the second it say linux-image does not installed04:55
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Francisco_jason, I type like fromeroc@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image- `uname -r`04:55
Francisco it is correct."04:55
_jasonFrancisco: paste exactly what you entered as the command04:55
mark__jason...System -> Add Applications ?04:56
leogibsonit wont let me make it smaller!!!!04:56
ubushinehey kids04:56
_jasonmark__: use system > administration > synaptic04:56
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mark__Thanks jason04:56
mark__:)04:56
Madpilotleogibson, which panels are you talking about? The top & bottom desktop ones in Gnome?04:56
leogibsonMadpilot, it wont let me make them smaller04:56
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leogibsonmy main toolbar04:56
leogibsonas in04:56
_jasonFrancisco: no space: linux-image-`uname -r`04:56
leogibsonwhats below all the program boxes04:56
ubushineanyone see this error before.  (gnome-calculator:9591): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.04:56
ubushine Using the fallback 'C' locale.04:56
leogibsonwith all the menus in it04:56
MATTH3SIM BORED04:56
leogibsonapps system places04:56
leogibsonall that04:57
leogibsoni want that smaller04:57
intelikeyFrancisco  no space.  linux-image- `uname -r`    linux-image-`uname -r`04:57
tritium!tell leogibson about enter04:57
warpzonehi, basic linux question, but how can I tell what group a folder belongs to?04:57
oklinuxhey MATTH3S help me with a efax program04:57
Madpilotleogibson, yeah. right-click, Properties, look for the size spinner - that doesn't work?04:57
Francisco_jason, done ok04:57
_jasonwarpzone: ls -ld folder04:57
leogibsonno04:57
leogibsonit doesent04:57
Madpilotwarpzone, right-click, Properties04:57
warpzone_jason thanks04:57
mian1akintelikey: thanx i will check that again,04:57
MATTH3SHUH?04:57
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warpzonemadpilot thanks as well04:57
Francisco_jason, ok now??04:57
_jasonFrancisco: ok, now what was your amarok problem?04:57
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ubushineanyone?? Gtk-WARNING **:04:58
MadpilotMATTH3S, turn your CAPS key off, thanks04:58
oklinuxcan some one help me on efax ?04:58
_jasonFrancisco: you are set with the uspasl, you can reboot to check if you want04:58
MATTH3SY?04:58
bimberileogibson: Try reducing font sizes in System -> Preferences -> Font04:58
_jasonFrancisco: s/uspasl/usplash04:58
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Madpilotleogibson, I've shrunk my panels down to 24px high, and it'll go smaller still - how low do you need them?04:58
Francisco_jason, when I want to install somethinf of kde like kile, amarok, kopete, it say there is not a candidat..04:58
ubushineanyone know how to change/edit localization?04:59
intelikeymian1ak i personally like having the screen go blank in 15 minutes or so,  but some don't.    most bios's support adjusting that to your own liking.04:59
Francisco_jason, set with what.."04:59
Francisco??04:59
_jasonFrancisco: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please04:59
leogibsonmadpil,  want them at like ten, but its stuck on 2304:59
_jasonFrancisco: I mean your usplash problem should be resolved04:59
MATTH3Sim bored excite me04:59
leogibsonwell  i give up for now04:59
Francisco_jason, ok.. bue just open soureces and pasted ok04:59
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_jasonFrancisco: give me a link when you are done :)05:00
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tritiumMATTH3S: /join #ubuntu-offtopic05:00
bimberileogibson: Again, try reducing font sizes in System -> Preferences -> Font05:00
V4Vendettahow do i remove a directory that isn't empty using terminal ftp/05:00
V4Vendetta?05:00
intelikeyMATTH3S check and see if your   w  who  work propperly.05:00
oklinuxMATTH3S open the windows05:00
MATTH3Snnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno05:01
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ubushineany command line folks know where localization settings are?05:01
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_jasonV4Vendetta: rm -r?05:01
intelikeyV4Vendetta rm -fr ?05:01
rukuartic_jason: its FTP05:01
Francisco_jason I am on hte dir. but how can I open it05:01
V4Vendettaahh it,s mdelete05:01
rukuarticintelikey: Remove france!? :O05:01
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_jasonrukuartic: thus the '?', I wasn't sure :)05:01
intelikeythat's a thought rukuartic05:02
Psykusi neglected to set up a swap partition during setup, and now I think it's causing problems in gnome...how do I set one up after i've already installed ubuntu?05:02
rukuartic_jason: Oh :P05:02
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_jasonFrancisco: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:02
ubushinehey folks -- anyone use enlightenment?05:02
Psykusi know how to create a partition, do I just need to mount it to a certain part of the filesystem?05:02
fiveironanyone play counterstrike in linux?05:02
powderHello all.  Is SAMBA necessary for my Ubuntu machine to connect to a Windows share on my network?05:02
warpzone_jason: is it possible to edit the group that a folder belongs to? I can't find the command anywhere05:02
rukuarticwarpzone: chown05:03
_jasonwarpzone: chgrp05:03
_jasonwarpzone: or chown too05:03
warpzoneooo seems intuitive, thanks05:03
intelikeyrukuartic not sure about venella  ftp  but ncftp supports   rm -fr <target>    try it and see.05:03
bimberipowder: no, smbclient is, and it is installed by default, Places -> onnect to Server05:03
rukuarticwarpzone: chown would be "chown <user>:<group> file05:03
fiveironpowder: i think you can just mount the share as smbfs05:03
bimberi*Connect05:03
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rukuarticintelikey: Heh... I like plain old FTP05:03
fiveironoh... or what bimberi said... ;)05:03
ubushineanyone try elive?05:03
powderhaha thanks guys :)05:03
Grarkand for that, gftp works great05:03
rukuarticwarpzone: and if you want to change all the folders/files beneath it, add -R05:03
sjmanyone here using breezy amd64?05:04
Francisco_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031705:04
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warpzoneroger dodger, thanks again05:04
bimberi!tell powder about mountwindows05:04
Grarkok I have one more thing on my wishlist.05:04
intelikeyrukuartic yeah so try the command and tell us if it works or not.05:04
Grarkgood business software...like quickbooks05:04
_jasonFrancisco: you use automatix?05:04
ubushinewondering if i was invisible?05:04
bimberifiveiron: :)05:04
Francisco_jason, yeah.."05:04
sjmnobodys using the amd64 kernel?05:05
Psykusanyone? what do I need to do to make a swap partition?05:05
ufosjm, i do05:05
ubushinei think this invisible font is working perfectly05:05
_jasonFrancisco: ok pastebin the errors you get with sudo aptitude install amarok05:05
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sjmufo, have you gotten any video or audio codecs to work?05:05
Francisco_jason, do you understand spanish coz it is."05:05
ubushinei wish i were this invisible in real life05:06
ufosjm, yes use ffmpeg for video05:06
_jasonFrancisco: that's fine05:06
intelikeyPsykus cfdisk /dev/<drive>     maybe drive=hda ?     and make a linux swap partition on it....05:06
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sjmi cant seem to get it to work.  Im pretty sure I have it installed w/ totem05:06
intelikeythat assumes there is free space....05:06
Psykusintelikey: then linux should use it as a swap partition automatically?05:06
ufosjm,05:06
tritiumPsykus: you'll have to use a partition resizer to make room for it first05:06
ufo!restricted05:06
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:06
ubushinewow, 10 posts so far and not one bite05:06
intelikeyPsykus yep05:06
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Francisco_jason, I do not know what is going on but It has fixed.. "05:07
Psykusthere's room already, I left 15 GB on that drive05:07
Psykusok then05:07
ubushineis there a test chanel just so i can see if my font is indeed NOT invisible!!!05:07
_jasonFrancisco: ok :)05:07
fuzwell... no dice on #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl.  please, can anybody help with an dapper5/ATI problem??05:07
fiveironanyone play counterstrike in linux?05:07
tritiumubushine: please stop05:07
tritiumfuz: #ubuntu+105:07
fiveironor rather, has anyone gotten steam to work in wine?05:07
ubushinetritium, holy crap. thanks05:07
rukuarticfuz: I'd like to help ya, but if its dapper ya really won't find anything here05:07
rukuartic!tell fiveiron about cedega05:07
fuzk. i'll keep at it05:08
intelikeymake the partition with cfdisk then  run  mkswap /dev/<the new part>       <the new part>=hda6 maybe ?05:08
FunnyLookinHattritium, haven't seen you in a while  : )05:08
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AngryElfhey all, i'm trying to dpkg a file and it's attempting to "ls /boot/vmlinuz-*"  but it's erroring because of that hyphen right there........it really should be doing "ls /boot/vmlinuz*".......is it possible there is a simple workaround for this?05:08
fiveironrukuartic: i'd rather not pay to use my games05:08
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sjmufo, still there?05:09
DraconicusWhat's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?05:09
pbransfordcan i get some opinions on a forum sig?05:09
tritiumHi FunnyLookinHat :)05:09
ufosjm, yes05:09
Francisco_jason, when I have windows I could see so good the DVD on my pc. and the video too. And Id do some activitys at same time and no problem .. and with ubuntu I have some troubles with DVD cos it sees like paused.."05:09
pbransfordpbransford@epicenter.groundzero:~$ fortune -lo > $FORUM/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=$OPENTHREAD05:09
pbransfordany good?05:09
FunnyLookinHattritium, has anyone heard what the final decision was with the dapper delay?  I attended the second meeting held on tuesday but wasn't sure what the decision was05:10
intelikeyPsykus linux should load it automaticly on reboots  but you can load it with   swapon /dev/<swap>       swap=hda6 maybe,  what ever address is correct....05:10
_jasonFrancisco: did you enable dma?05:10
sjmufo, sorry i have no experience getting codecs to work in linux, is there something I should read about getting videos working?05:10
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V4Vendettasjm, sudo apt-get install w32codecs05:10
ufosjm, yes !restricted05:10
tritiumFunnyLookinHat: I haven't heard anything yet...05:10
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FunnyLookinHatoh.05:10
ufo!tell sjm about restricted05:10
Francisco_jason, I am not idea05:10
pbransfordno opinions?05:10
_jasonubotu: tell Francisco about dma05:11
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p_sekhi05:11
p_sekhi,how are u05:11
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IdleOneanybody here have experience creating a crontab?05:11
sjmufo, whats that?05:11
DraconicusI need to mute all ALSA channels with the click of a button. For this, I need some kind of command or some such that will mute and umute every ALSA channel. Can somebody please help me?05:11
tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: They said a decision would be sent out by the end of the week.05:12
MasterJAnyone good with Shell scripting?05:12
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FunnyLookinHattonyyarusso, On the ubuntu-news mailing list I assume?05:12
ufosjm, open the link and there is howto install all the codecs05:12
_jasonDraconicus: not really but I can refer you to man amixer for a start05:12
Draconicus_jason: Thanks.05:12
Francisco_jason, It do not think so couse the NEROlinux say taht.. DMA it now enable..05:12
tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: Prob'ly.  You can get the log of the mtg too apparently, although that won't have the actual decision (check the /topic in the mtg room).05:13
intelikeyIdleOne if it is just an hourly/daily/or weakly job that you want ran make a shell script and chuck it in the approprate /etc/cron*/ directory05:13
sjmthanks much ufo05:13
ufosjm, np05:13
sjmthey will work in amd64 bit im guessing?05:13
intelikeyMasterJ what ya need ?05:13
FunnyLookinHattonyyarusso, cool beans, thanks05:13
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ufosjm, there is an section for 64bit05:13
michaelhow can I fix this problem?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031805:14
Nunquam_FidelisCan someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?05:14
solid_liqI edited my /etc/config/wireless.opts file, now how do I bring up my ath0 interface with what I set in there?05:14
MasterJintelikey: I need to ask for user input yes/no and if yes then launch a command if no exit the terminal05:14
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MistaEDdma i hope will be enabled by default (or better yet a way to detect via the bios or something) in dapper drake05:14
Nunquam_Fidelisbah05:14
solid_liqer, /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file that is05:15
IdleOneintelikey>  I havent a clue how to do that05:15
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tritiumsolid_liq: you can set wireless options in /etc/network/interfaces.  you shouldn't need to touch other wireless.opts05:15
Francisco_jason,05:15
MasterJintelikey: I am trying to use the read command but i am new to this so it isn't working05:15
ufomichael, have you tried apt-get intall lisp? donno try05:15
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Nunquam_FidelisWell thanks for all the offers for help anyway =P05:15
michaelk05:15
_jasonFrancisco: I don't know what else would cause jerky playback.  What are your specs?05:15
jumpkickI've something is messed up with my ubunutu's DNS resolution, I can ssh in but when I try to ping out I get "ping: unknown host yahoo.com", when I do a sudo pump -i eth0, it fixes things, but I'm wondering were the source of the problem might be...  any suggestions?05:16
MasterJI can get it to pause and wait for the input but it doesn't do anything with it05:16
intelikeyMasterJ   read -n1 -p'the prompt you want them to see' VAR ;if [ "$VAR" = "y" ]  ;then command ;fi05:16
solid_liqtritium: how do I spec my wireless interface in there?05:16
xBeatrixanybody how to mount a windows partition?05:16
michaelcan't find package lisp05:16
MATTH3SY CANT U DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON UBUNTU?!?!?!?!?!?!?05:16
rnd_nulli just had a really strange problem, can anyone explain to me what caused it and how what i did fixed it? (1st day of linux for me)05:16
bimberimichael: try clisp05:16
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EdLinmichael, you're looking for Common LISP?05:17
solid_liqrnd_null: only if you describe what happened :D05:17
EdLinmichael, I run sbcl05:17
ufomichael, apt-get install libdlisp0-dev05:17
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tristanmikeMATTH3S, please turn off your caps button :)05:17
rnd_nullsolid_liq, no prob, is there another room with less people in it we can use?05:17
EdLinmichael, a number of open-source lisps are apt-getable05:17
michaelwhat's sbcl?05:17
MATTH3SNO05:17
EdLinmichael, sbcl is a fork of CMUCL05:17
mrnicksgirl:( I installed Ubuntu.. and now I have a problem with the hotplug system starting.. I've found several posts in forum about it but nothing that I can see to do05:17
solid_liqrnd_null: no, just use this channel05:17
intelikeyMasterJ     for more info  install  bash-doc  or bash3-doc  and man bash     also    type  help read05:17
tristanmike!caps05:17
ubotucaps is probably FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.05:18
ufomichael, apt-cache search lisp dev05:18
michaeli just want to install maxima on ubuntu05:18
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tritiumenough, MATTH3S05:18
solid_liqtritium: how do I spec my wireless interface in there?05:18
MATTH3SY CANT U DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON UBUNTU?!?!?!?!?!?!?05:18
ithiel!xgl05:18
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/05:18
tritiumyou can, MATTH3S05:18
MATTH3SHOW?05:18
tritiumturn off your caps please, MATTH3S05:18
Francisco_jason, /dev/hdc: No such file or directory05:18
Franciscoit say05:18
MATTH3Sfine05:18
rnd_nullsolid_liq, ok- so i finished installing ubuntu and shortly after had a video card or bios problem, not sure which.  i cleared my bios after i found that there was video coming out of my card and i got video back (more)05:19
MATTH3Show?05:19
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_jasonFrancisco: what caused that?05:19
tristanmikeMATTH3S, what are you trying to get ?05:19
tritiumsolid_liq: one second, please05:19
MATTH3Smusic05:19
Franciscosudo hdparm /dev/hdc05:19
solid_liqtritium: thanks05:19
michaelseems to be working, thanks05:19
tristanmikeMATTH3S, from iTunes ?05:19
Francisco_jason: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc05:19
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_jasonFrancisco: ``These instructions assume that you are trying to enable DMA on hdc, usually the CD-rom drive.'' Yours is probably something else05:20
MATTH3Sit wont download on here05:20
intelikeyMasterJ  any more questions ?05:20
rnd_nullsolid_liq, i started ubuntu (gnome) back up and went to look for an nvidia driver, i tried the nvidia.com drivers, but got confused.  someone in this room referred me to a wiki file on using the synaptic tool (more)05:20
tristanmike!tell MATTH3S about itunes05:20
Francisco_jason and how can I know correctly..05:20
solid_liq!itunes05:20
ubotusomebody said itunes was a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.05:20
MasterJintelikey: not sure I am trying to get that to work05:20
michaeldoes it matter that i forgot to do $make, before $make check05:20
tritiumsolid_liq: for more info, man wireless05:21
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frank23what does make check do?05:21
solid_liqtritium: ok, thanks!05:21
_jasonFrancisco: good question, I don't remember :)  Someone else here probably does though05:21
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rnd_nullsolid_liq, i followed the how-to and and hit ctr-alt-bkspc and the output i got was not what it said i should get....then most of my apps stopped working....well, not the big ones, just the gnome only ones, like the clock, weather update, and various other things like that (more)05:21
michaelidk, dircetions are $./configure, $make, $make check, $make install05:21
tritiumsolid_liq: solid_liq let me know if you have further questions05:21
mrnicksgirlwhat is the hot plug system?05:21
michaeli did make check b4 make05:21
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Franciscosome one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??05:22
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_jasonhe means /dev device05:22
MATTH3Su all r no help05:22
michaelit's doing a lot of compiling, is that what make does?05:22
MATTH3Sthanx 4 nothing05:22
rnd_nullsolid_liq, i rebooted the computer and x would not load.  i read through the log files got confused and rebooted again...x wouldn't start (more)05:22
frank23michael well make is definitely necessary. that's the one that compiles the program05:22
intelikeyMasterJ only substitute the parts marked with <>  in the --->  read -n1 -p'<the prompt you want them to see>' VAR ;if [ "$VAR" = "y" ]  ;then <command> ;fi     <---- also in case you didn't know all the   ;   marks are line breaks  if you prefer you can substitute return start new line  for each  ;05:22
_jasonubotu: tell MATTH3S about patience05:23
Franciscosome one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??05:23
Franciscosome one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??05:23
michaelif it's spent a lot of time doing some compiling, is that probably making up for lack of make>05:23
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michaelbecause now its doing tests05:23
mikebothow hard is it tos et up an apache server in ubuntu?05:23
mikebotah you're the one who registered my name ;)05:23
frank23michael compiling takes time. just let it finish05:23
deviansmikebot, apt-get install apache205:23
deviansthat hard05:23
MasterJintelikey: I can05:23
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mikebotdevians, thanks--i meant using it too :)05:23
michaelok, i'm redoing it05:24
powdermikebot, i just set up an apache server and it took me ike 5 minutes :)05:24
MasterJintelikey: I can05:24
frank23michael I'm not sure what make check does but it's a good idea to substitute the make install step with checkinstall05:24
mikebotpoeoh okay05:24
rnd_nullsolid_liq, so i read the log files closer and went in and looked at the log files with nano.  i found in xorg.conf a command listed to rebuild the file, so i ran it.  now x works works.  what i want to know is what happend with that file that caused x not to load?05:24
deviansjust edit the conf file, run apache2 from bash05:24
Franciscosome one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??05:24
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MasterJintelikey: I can't type dangit05:24
devians/var/www/ is the htdocs05:24
michaeldoes checkinstall install the prog?05:24
intelikeyyou can   it will work as one line or as many.   only break at simicolens.05:24
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rnd_nullsolid_liq, (i proud of myself for fixing it too)05:24
MasterJintelikey: It accepts the input but does nothing05:24
_Lamont_Hmm... anyone knwo why sshd doesn't start when I try to add 'GatewayPorts Yes' to sshd_config?05:25
_jasonFrancisco: try this: grep cdrom /etc/fstab05:25
frank23michael yes. use synaptic to install checkinstall. then you can use sudo checkinstall to install the program. checkinstall will make a .deb and install it for you05:25
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intelikeywhat command did you supply MasterJ ?05:25
mikebotwhat do i do once i installed it?05:25
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MasterJyes05:25
mikebotdo i need to download something for php too?05:25
frank23michael what program are you compiling anyways?05:25
MasterJthe command I am running is multisync05:25
deviansapt-get install php05:25
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michaelcheckinstall isn't a valid command - i'm trying to install maxima05:25
_Lamont__jason btw I got the PHP/MySQL setup working - thanks for your help earlier today05:26
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_jason_Lamont_: np05:26
mikebotpowder, what did you do after you apt-get installed it?05:26
Francisco_jason, it did nothing05:26
frank23michael you have to install checkinstall with synaptic before it will work05:26
MasterJI am trying to create a lauch icon that will run all the necessary commands to sync my pda05:26
NickGarveyI am trying to move all files from my ubuntu hard drive to my windows hard drive, but I am unable to due to write-protection, I am unable to boot my ubuntu hard drive, how can I fix this?05:26
michaelk05:26
_jasonFrancisco: paste what you typed05:26
powdermikebot, go to http://localhost/05:26
frank23!info maxima05:26
ubotumaxima: (A fairly complete computer algebra system-- base system), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 5.9.1-9build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7977 kB, Installed size: 26912 kB05:26
MasterJso far it works, but i want to have a choice whether to run multisync or not05:26
dazvidQuick question, is it possible to update a 32bit ubuntu to 64bit or will i have to do a clean install of 64bit?05:26
mikebotpowder, okay05:26
frank23michael actually it would be better if you just install maxima with synaptic.05:27
michaelshoud is it in the repository??05:27
powdermikebot, if it came up without error, your apache server is good to go05:27
frank23michael using synaptic to install stuff is much easier05:27
mikebotpowder, how do i add documents to the apache server?05:27
frank23!tell michael about synaptic05:27
mikebotpowder, i don't know how to use it is the problem05:27
Francisco_jason, I am sorry.. It works and apers that /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:27
intelikeyMasterJ see my pm.   paste that in your terminal.   and test it.05:27
frank23!tell michael about sources05:27
NickGarveymikebot, read the documentation05:27
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mikebotNickGarvey, okay05:27
rnd_nullsolid_liq, ??05:27
_jasonFrancisco: there you go, just use /dev/hdb.  Be sure to read the warnings at the top of the wiki page05:27
mikebotNickGarvey, The requested URL /manual/ was not found on this server.05:28
michaelCRAP - i didn't find it in there b4, thanks05:28
powdermikebot, put your index.html in /var/www/05:28
michaelnow i feel foolish05:28
Francisco_jason, what can it pass?05:28
mikebotpowder, ah okay05:28
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_jasonFrancisco: I only know what that wiki page says05:28
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mikebotpowder, to make it do php, do i have to download somethign additional?05:28
frank23michael. you only have to compile programs which are not available thru the repositories. and there is like 15000 packages available there05:29
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Francisco_jason, what does "newer" mean?05:29
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NickGarveymikebot: have php installed already?05:29
powdermikebot, yes05:29
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powdermikebot, check this out:  http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Apache_HTTP_Server05:29
mikebotNickGarvey, don't think so05:29
michaelwhen that happenes, should i just use checkinstall instead of make?05:29
mikebotpowder, thanks05:29
_jasonFrancisco: mais novo in portuguse, should be similar in spanish I hope05:29
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powdermikebot, it will tell you how to install php05:30
mikebotpowder, okay, cool, thanks05:30
salahHi, How can I setup Mplayer ?05:30
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Francisco Most systems newer than 4 years support DMA.05:30
Francisco it means that support DMA the system from 2002-200605:30
_jasonFrancisco: it just means your system is not older than 4 years.  Does that make more sense?05:30
_jasonubotu: tell salah about mplayer05:30
frank23michael  when you have to compile? yeah, checkinstall installs the program with a .deb so it fits in with the rest of the system05:30
Vaske_CarWhat is the name for that GUI aplication used to install packages on Ubuntu?05:30
michaelty05:31
frank23Vaske_Car: synaptic05:31
Francisco_jason, ok I have bouthg it."05:31
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Vaske_Carhow do you access that?05:31
NickGarvey!synaptic05:31
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ubotumethinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:31
frank23Vaske_Car: its in the menu somewhere05:31
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hollywoodis Cedega  only available off of the transgamer website?05:31
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Agrajagyeah, that's who develops and sells it05:32
frank23hollywood, you can get a cvs version for free as well but it misses a few features05:32
Francisco_jason, I have done.. I hope it works"05:32
FranciscoI wiil try05:32
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rnd_nullwhat is a PDD file?05:32
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hollywoodIs it as good as it sounds?05:32
frank23hollywood for some games, yeah05:33
ladofnodis anyone familiar with disabling x.org and using xfree86? i think it could vastly speed up my computer.05:33
rukuarticladofnod: this is what I do... rather lame though05:33
efarrarhey i have a mousepad and an eraserhead as my pointers, but xset m only seems to control the eraser...How can i make it control the mousepad?05:33
frank23hollywood there is gamesdb where you can see how well different games work05:33
Francisco_jason, geeeehaaaaaaaaa..05:33
Franciscoyeah05:33
Vaske_Carfrank23: THanks~05:34
rukuarticladofnod: go ctrl+alt+F1, and type "sudo gdm stop", then you can "sudo killall xorg" and anything else... to get back you'd have to type "startx" and then maybe "gdm start"05:34
rukuarticladofnod: to get back to the gui press ctrl+alt+f705:34
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ladofnodrukuartic: would you so it's not really worth it then?05:34
hollywoodIs it only the subscribtion to trangaming.org that costs or the program itself?05:34
rukuarticladofnod: what are you doing with your computer?05:34
dazvidhollywood, subscription.05:34
michaelwhen i install something with dpkg (.deb) does it usually go into the start menu. or how do I add them?05:34
frank23hollywood the when you subscribe, you can download the program05:35
mikebotpowder, will other people be able to access this too?05:35
dazvidwhen you have subscribed you can download the latest versions05:35
fiveironwhat is the name of the package for flex?05:35
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_jasonfiveiron: flex05:35
dazvidhollywood, but if your subscription runs out, you can still use it :)05:35
frank23hollywood there is a free trial as well I think05:35
solid_liqrnd_null: when you got confused, you apparently screwed up xorg.conf05:35
ladofnodmainly internet, video and documents. ive got any older machine that i juts want to make zippier05:35
michaellike the games deb package from seveas' website05:35
powdermikebot, yes, are you behind a router?05:35
rukuarticladofnod: if you want to use a graphical desktop still, you shoult try xfce05:35
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mikebotpowder, no...but what address do i give other people05:35
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rukuarticladofnod: If you want to do video, you need XOrg05:36
Francisco_jason, so thanks. you are a good person..05:36
ladofnodrukuartic: yeah i use it now. works very well05:36
mikebotpowder, and i can't even access index.html...You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.05:36
_jasonFrancisco: np05:36
solid_liqtritium: I can't seem to get it to connect to my encrypted ap05:36
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Xaero_Vincentok... heres whats wrong...05:36
FranciscoI can contact you on msn or some place like this..05:36
Falstiuswhy would XFree86 be faster than xorg?05:36
rnd_nullsolid_liq, hmm....the url to the help file is... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ... i had a problem with item 1105:37
_jasonFrancisco: here is better05:37
ladofnodrukuartic: ture i suppose. im still a little new with linux, you'll have to forgive me.05:37
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solid_liqtritium: ifup now knows about my ath0, and brings it up with the static IP I configured, but I can't find a way to spec the key in /etc/network/interfaces05:37
tritiumsolid_liq: wep or wpa?05:37
bosewichtif you have ubuntu installed on a box and put in an ubuntu install cd, will it give u options to upgrade repair etc? i've been getting irqpoll errors on boot and the system wont boot. I tried adding irqpoll to grub, but still didn't work05:37
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powdermikebot, did you copy your index.html to /var/www ?05:37
Neko_Freakany1 know how i get my mkv files to work? I looked it up that I needed Mplayer's essentials codec pack...so i d/led it...but now i dunno what to do with it >.<05:37
solid_liqtritium: wpa205:37
rnd_nullsolid_liq, it was already installed, so i picked update...is that where it went wrong?05:37
Varanger!tell Varanger about 915resolution05:37
Xaero_VincentI installed the 2.6.12.10 kernel compiled for 686 and removed all the i386 one. This way I may get slightly better performance and full RAM support05:38
Francisco_jason, see ya05:38
Xaero_Vincentbut when I did so, I lost my 3D acceleration05:38
mikebotpowder, yes05:38
solid_liqrnd_null: dunno, I'm new to Ubunto :D  I've used linux for several years, just not ubuntu05:38
Xaero_Vincentim a little confused...05:38
rnd_nulloh05:38
dazvidWhen does the next ubuntu come out?05:38
rnd_nullsolid_liq, its day 1.5 for me05:38
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powdermikebot, are you able to see your website when going to http://localhost/ ?05:39
JayR168I just installed ubuntu and it randomly freezes, why?05:39
mikebotpowder, i get: Forbidden   You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.05:39
tritiumsolid_liq: are you using wpasupplicant?05:39
Xaero_Vincentanyone know why I lost 3D support with a new kernel install?05:39
solid_liqrnd_null: I've used redhat, slackware, mandrake (before it was renamed mandriva), and gentoo extensively :D05:39
Xaero_Vincent3D acceleration*05:39
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warpzonedoes chmod/chown work on my own home directory if I want other users to be able to view its contents?05:39
intelikeythe kernel modules05:40
JayR168even if im just browsing the web with firefox, I have updated my kernel to 2.6.x.x i686 still the problem exist05:40
fiveironwhat is the package name for flex?05:40
fiveironin dapper flight 505:40
intelikeywarpzone yes05:40
solid_liqtritium: I will be now that you reminded me about it :D05:40
techrushi have the same problem here JayR168 dont know what the deal is05:40
bimberifiveiron: flex05:40
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warpzoneintelikey: alright, i'll have to see what I'm messing up. thanks man05:40
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me2win!avi05:40
ubotuavi is, like, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:40
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tritiumsolid_liq: :)05:40
Xaero_Vincentdo i need to reinstall the drivers? or is there a config file I need to change?  I tried reconfiguring xserver and did aticonfig --initial05:40
fiveironbimberi: i can't seem to do "apt-get install flex"05:41
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me2win!xvid05:41
powdermikebot, that's strange, do an "ls -la /var/www" and tell me what the permissions are on index.html05:41
ubotume2win: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:41
tritium!tell solid_liq about wpa05:41
rnd_nullsolid_liq, i messed around with slackware back around 95-ish, but i'm back for good now, i finally had enough of microsoft05:41
bimberifiveiron: do you have the main repository enabled?05:41
intelikeywarpzone you know that dirs have to be exec'd  ?05:41
fiveironshould... let me check05:41
mikebotpowder, -rw-------   1 michael michael   22 2006-03-15 20:29 index.html05:41
solid_liqrnd_null: good :D  I'd suggest you try KDE instead of Gnome, you may like it better05:41
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rnd_nullit took me about a dozen distros through about 2 weeks or so of searching to finally settle on ubuntu05:41
rnd_nullnope, i like gnome better05:41
intelikeywarpzone   chmod 755 $HOME05:41
rnd_nullsolid_liq, ^05:41
Mabus06Somebody was trying to access the file sharing port of my windows computer, according to zonealarm. I am on ubuntu now, but if there is a possibility somebody is trying to maliciously affect my computer, what should I do to keep my computer safe?05:42
intelikeythat will let them read but not write.05:42
warpzoneintelikey: haha, I do now! If I enable execute, will they be able to delelte files within, though? I want other users to see and copy but not delete05:42
fiveironbimberi: I have 6.04 updates binary, 6.04 dapper drake binary (universe) and like 5 others05:42
powdermikebot, do a "sudo chmod 644 /var/www/index.html"05:42
rnd_nullsolid_liq, KDE is pretty, but it reminds me too much of windows, it dosent seem very....hmm...i dont know the word for it05:42
intelikeywarpzone   chmod 755 $HOME05:42
bimberifiveiron: put your sources.list on the pastebin05:42
solid_liqrnd_null: you ever tried baghira on kde?   It makes it look like Mac OS X :D05:43
warpzoneintelikey: will do, thanks again man05:43
IdleOnernd_null>  the word is Linux :)05:43
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fiveironbimberi: i think i found the prob05:43
fiveironbimberi: one sec05:43
rnd_nullsolid_liq, yeah, that'd be the word05:43
intelikeyrnd_null  geeky ?05:43
mikebotpowder, that worked...am i going to have to do that command for every file?05:43
rnd_nullsolid_liq,  or that too05:43
rnd_nullintelikey, maybe05:44
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solid_liqtritium: ok, now how do I configure wpasupplicant to be used?05:44
intelikeyrnd_null   yeah  i know.    why not go console only.   it's the geeks way....05:44
powdermikebot, short answer no, only if you have problems accessing the file.  if not leave the permissions alone05:45
mikebotpowder, by the way, the way i did index.html was i made it on my desktop, then sudo mv it to var/www05:45
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rnd_nullintelikey, yeah, i could go console, but i'm all about eye candy too05:45
mikebotpowder, also, how do i know what the address to my apache is?05:45
Neko_Freakany1 know how i get my mkv files to work? I looked it up that I needed Mplayer's essentials codec pack...so i d/led it...but now i dunno what to do with it >.<05:45
intelikeyoh.   well   e15 ?05:45
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solid_liqrnd_null: you should most definitely try 'screen' while on the cli05:46
silvaranNeko_Freak: I think those things need to be unpacked and the files copied to /usr/lib/win32/05:46
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IdleOne!tell Neko_Freak  about mkv05:46
rnd_nullintelikey, i dont even know what that is05:46
frank23Neko_Freak: i don't think you need w32codecs for mkv.  totem-xine should handle them05:46
frank23Neko_Freak: but install w32codecs anyways05:46
silvaranfrank23: Good call :)05:46
powdermikebot, i will try what you did and see if the permissions change05:46
intelikeyenlightenment desktop environment version ##05:46
silvaranrnd_null: It's awesome... do you use ssh a lot?05:46
powdermikebot, you need to know your external ip address05:46
frank23!tell Neko_Freak about restricted05:46
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lastent!nptl05:46
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lastent05:47
rnd_nullintelikey, i dont know what ssh is, like i said earlier, this is day 1.5 of using linux for me05:47
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mikebotpowder, how can i find that out?05:47
solid_liq!wpasupplicant05:47
ubotusolid_liq: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:47
IdleOnemikebot> 169.231.11.19305:47
Neko_Freakidolone, if vlc would play the files...i wouldn't ask05:47
solid_liq!wpa05:47
ubotu[wpa]  enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details05:47
powdermikebot, what IdleOne said :)05:47
Neko_Freak>,<05:47
IdleOneNeko_Freak>  I dont know then sorry05:47
mikebotIdleOne, hehe thanks05:47
intelikeyrnd_null but you know you don't like kde ?05:48
solid_liqrnd_null: you need to play with ssh, it's great05:48
mikebotIdleOne, how did you know that?05:48
powdermikebot, congrats I can see your website :)05:48
IdleOnemikebot>  for future reference on irc use /dns nickname and it will return ip addy05:48
mikebotpowder, hooray, thanks05:48
rnd_nullintelikey, what is it?05:48
tritiumsolid_liq: did you read the URL I had ubotu send you?05:48
mikebotIdleOne, ah, thanks05:48
frank23Neko_Freak: for some reason the vlc in ubuntu doesn't play mkv.  The mkv support *should* be compiled in but its not05:48
fiveironbimberi: http://pastebin.com/60483805:48
silvaranlastent: nptl-related problems?05:48
JayR888hi05:49
mikebotwhat happens if i change my hostname in system > admin > networking05:49
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JayR888ubuntu "breezy" freezes randomly05:49
mikebotwill my university network admin get fussy?05:49
lastentsilvaran u just wanted to know what it is05:49
JayR888I updated my kernel to 2.6.12 i686 but still it freezes05:49
JayR888why?05:49
intelikey"<rnd_null> solid_liq, KDE is pretty, but it reminds me too much of windows,"  <--- and now you say "<rnd_null> intelikey, what is it? "    ?????  what did i miss ?05:49
solid_liqtritium: yeah, I just remembered it :D05:49
IdleOnemikebot>  nice site! simplae and to the point :)05:49
IdleOnesimple*05:49
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intelikeynever mind.05:50
silvaranlastent: Native Posix Threading Library ... basically a faster version of the old thread library Linux used...05:50
mikebotIdleOne, haha05:50
rnd_nullintelikey, no no, what is 'ssh'05:50
intelikeyoh05:50
frank23JayR888: that's not much information to go by05:50
JayR888help me people? how do I know whats causing the problem? where do I start looking for logs?05:50
intelikeyssh=secure shell05:50
Neko_FreakFrank23, what if i don't have a win32 folder o.o?05:50
rnd_nulloh05:50
Munkie2alright...the amd64 iso boots into setup and then says 'Your cpu does not support long mode. Switch to a 32-bit balh blah...'  but the i386 iso doesnt boot into the setup at all.....any help?05:50
intelikeynetowrking tool for linux rnd_null05:50
lastentsilvaran thank u05:50
silvaranNeko_Freak: sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/win3205:50
frank23Neko_Freak: did you see the link ubotu sent you?05:50
JayR888when im on the desktop after logging in it just freezes about 30secs or so..05:50
me2winwwhat do i need to play xvid avi?05:51
intelikey!info ssh05:51
ubotussh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB05:51
powdermikebot, here is mine :) http://72.129.22.138:8080/05:51
frank23Munkie2: do you have an amd64 cpu?05:51
intelikeyrnd_null  ^05:51
rnd_nullintelikey, yeah, its still all greek to me, maybe after a couple of months i'll start trying new things, but for, i'll stick with what works05:51
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fiveironbimberi: do i have the right repository?05:51
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bimberifiveiron: sorry, got called away, looking now ...05:51
mikebotpowder, yours is a more advanced version of mine...did you draw that?05:51
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powdermikebot, lol no i found it on the web somewhere :)05:52
mikebotpowder, or paint rather (is water color a verb?)05:52
fiveironbimberi: lol... no need for apologies.... i appreciate the help05:52
lastentsilvaran where are u from05:52
silvaranlastent: atlantic canada05:52
bimberifiveiron: you need a line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" , you have a deb-src one but not a _deb_ one05:52
frank23JayR888: hard freeze and nothing works after?05:53
fiveironah05:53
lastentsilvaran is silvaran ur lastname?05:53
powdermikebot, you in socal??05:53
silvaranlastent: Nope05:53
silvaranlastent: just a made up alias i use online05:53
JayR888frank23: the mouse curcor moves, but cannot click anything05:53
rnd_nullhow do i make my drop down menus transparent?05:53
lastentsilvaran it is a very latin alias05:53
silvaranlastent: How so?05:53
lastentsilvaran i mean it is a latin lastname05:53
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IdleOne!offtopic05:54
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!05:54
lastentsorry05:54
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frank23JayR888: I don't know...  maybe do searches in the forums or google. I have no idea05:54
Munkie2frank23, no05:54
silvaranlastent: Wow, I had no idea.05:54
silvaranthat's pretty cool05:54
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Munkie2frank23, but the i386 doesnt work either >.<05:54
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IdleOneMunkie2>  bad drive maybe?05:55
oxezHow can I rename the icons on my desktop which point to my mounted partition? Id like to have "Media" instead of "/mnt/media"05:55
silvaranlastent: Do you know if it has any meaning?05:55
frank23Munkie2: yeah that's strange. bad cd burn?05:55
IdleOneoxez>  right click on it05:55
oxezIdleOne, tried.05:55
lastentsilvaran are u registered?05:55
JayR888frank23 ive tried suse linux 10 and it still freezes?05:55
silvaranlastent: registered how?05:55
lastentsilvaran on the server05:56
JayR888frank23 ive tried suse linux 10 and it still freezes? same symptoms, but debian 3.1 seems to be fine05:56
Munkie2i burnt 3 i386's....none worked...but the 64 one worked...plus other distro boot discs work05:56
IdleOneoxez>  in properties? cant change the name05:56
triggerfishy1I cannot seem to change my screen resolution. Can anyone help?05:56
JayR888im troubled by this05:56
IdleOne!tell triggerfishy1 about fixres05:56
oxezIdleOne, Ill try to give chown it05:56
silvaranlastent: Yeah, with nickserv at least...05:56
oxezerr, just chown it05:56
MadpilotJayR168, when I had random system freezes in Ubuntu, it was because my motherboard was borked...05:56
frank23JayR888: it might be possible to install debian and dist-upgrade to breezy. I don't know if it works but it might05:57
intelikeyneuro|laptop: Symbol `Hertz' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking05:57
intelikeyneuro|laptop: relocation error: top: undefined symbol: xmalloc05:57
Xaero_Vincentthe only time Ubuntu freezes for me is when Gnome crashes05:57
JayR888is it posible to downgrade my kernel?05:57
Munkie2any ideas?05:57
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frank23JayR888: yes its possible05:58
Neko_Freakfrank23, i installed the w32codecs as it said in the link...but i tried all the Players i have....none work05:58
JayR888how to find older kernels?05:58
JayR888its not in apt-cache05:58
Neko_FreakVLC, Totem, Mplayer...none of them work for mkv files still05:58
frank23Neko_Freak: for mkv you might need xine so try totem-xine or gxine05:58
frank23Neko_Freak: did you install totem-xine?05:58
fiveironanyone else getting errors from bzip2 and gzip when you try to do an "apt-get upgrade"?05:58
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Neko_Freakyeah05:59
intelikeyJayR888 apt-cache search kerenl ;apt-cache search linux05:59
mikebotpowder, hey, when i open tag.php, it shows stuff, but when i open a file with this: <? include "tag.php";?>, it shows nothing05:59
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Neko_Freakfrank23: i installed that too....05:59
frank23Neko_Freak: is there a configuration for the totem engine in totem?05:59
powdermikebot, sorry i have no idea about php, i'm a php noob :)06:00
mikebotpowder, hehe okay06:00
mikebothey, when i open tag.php, it shows stuff, but when i open a file with this: <? include "tag.php";?>, it shows nothing06:00
fiveironerr06:00
frank23Neko_Freak: I don't use totem so I'm only guessing here but xine *should* work. It does for me06:00
fiveironanyone else getting errors from bzip2 and gzip when you try to do an "apt-get update"?06:00
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intelikeyJayR888 apt-cache search kerenl ;apt-cache search linux | grep -ie'^linux'    <--- that filter will shorten it for you.06:01
oxezIdleOne, any other ideas?06:01
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rnd_nullwhat is the number command for chmod that sets all users to read only?06:01
rnd_nullfor a folder06:02
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powderfiveiron, that's most likely a server issue, wait 10 min and try again06:02
Neko_Freakfrank23: Bah...i also tried gxine it says "No demuxer found - stream format not recognised."06:02
IdleOneoxez>  nope but I dont have icons on my desktop so I dont care what they are named . sorry06:02
oxezrnd_null,  chmod u+r-w06:02
rnd_nullthx06:02
intelikey555 rnd_null06:02
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intelikeyoxez that wont give read perm on a dir   must exec.06:03
volmariasDoes anybody have any experience with SAMBA? I'm setting up a samba server for the first time, but when I try and log into a share I get NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME06:03
frank23Neko_Freak: that is weird. I never found a file that neither mplayer, xine or vlc couldn't open06:03
oxezintelikey, yea I know06:03
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intelikeyk06:03
powdervolmarias, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server06:03
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oxezvolmarias, from gamesurge?06:03
volmariasoxez: yes06:04
oxez:o06:04
volmariaspowder: I've seen that06:04
Neko_Freakfrank23: i think its because none of them can find the correct plugins06:04
Munkie2frank23, any idea on what to do?06:04
Neko_Freakfrank23: but i dunno how to fix it06:04
volmariaspowder: but I didn't see one part in particular that I think might solve my problem. Just a sec.06:04
frank23Neko_Freak: xine is pretty much self contained. I don't know what the problem is06:04
frank23Munkie2: I don't know06:05
ithielbtw06:05
frank23Neko\06:05
frank23Neko_Freak: does the same file play in windows?06:05
intelikey     poll   how many have server install, and  "who"  doesn't work ?     ?06:06
oxezIdleOne, then do you know how I can prevent gnome from displaying my mounted partitions^06:06
Neko_Freakfrank23: well, im not running windows...but when i was running it, it worked.06:06
oxezIdleOne, (on desktop)06:06
Neko_Freakfrank23: then again, i had K-Lite codec pack installed...so i didn't have to worry about anything06:06
IdleOneoxez> I dont06:07
frank23Neko_Freak: well you can try installing kaffeine-xine too. that works for me06:07
powderoxez, hang on.....06:07
intelikey     poll   how many have server install, and  "who"  actually works ?     anybody ?06:07
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jacobhey06:08
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powderoxez, applications->system tools->config editor->apps->nautilus->desktop->volumes visible (uncheck)06:08
oxezpowder, oh, thanks!06:08
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raptorxcan anyone help me with Xgl/gnome?06:09
tritium!xgl06:09
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/06:09
raptorxnice06:09
raptorxnow06:09
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michael117How can I find the dependencies of a deb package with dpkg?06:09
raptorxif only i could get X running06:09
raptorxi would totally check that out06:09
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intelikeyso is ubuntu no good for use as a server then ?06:09
frank23Neko_Freak: I'm guessing this is for anime. Can't have mkv not working! ;)06:10
volmariasintelikey, you base that off of no one taking your "poll" ?06:10
raptorxNOO ANIMEEE ONOOEES06:10
powderintelikey, what is the problem?06:10
raptorxhm06:10
tritiumintelikey: ?06:10
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intelikeytty2 [root#~]  who -a06:10
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Neko_Freakfrank23: So very true06:10
IdleOneintelikey> if you enjoy cli that much server install is great06:10
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powderlol yup06:11
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powderNeko_Freak, I have mkv working with VLC06:11
raptorxfglrxinfo is locking up06:11
raptorxnice!06:11
intelikeyIdleOne server should work tho   and broken  admin apps  is not my idea of "works"06:11
volmariasWell, I'm still having trouble with samba. I've enabled home accounts, how would I access them via smbclient? I've tried //hostname/myusername, //hostname/homes, //hostname/homes/, no luck.06:11
raptorxoh06:11
raptorxX is breaking it06:11
IdleOneintelikey>  personnaly I need GUI but enjoy using command line for pratically everything heh06:11
raptorxhow to I kill tty7?06:11
Mabus06Somebody was trying to access the file sharing port of my windows computer, according to zonealarm. I am on ubuntu now, but if there is a possibility somebody is trying to maliciously affect my computer, what should I do to keep my computer safe?06:11
raptorxor.. hmm06:11
raptorxnevermind i have another idea06:11
volmariasMabus06, if zone alarm reported it, you're fine.06:12
tristanmikeMabus06, don't run in root06:12
intelikeytty3 [root#~]  w06:12
Mabus06Because the guy was trying like every couple of seconds from different ips from the same domain.06:12
intelikey 23:10:32 up  1:39,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0006:12
intelikeyUSER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT06:12
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intelikeyanothe broke admin app   ^06:12
Mabus06volmarias: but I'm on ubuntu now...06:12
IdleOneintelikey>  agreed it should work but if your having issues you can ask for help :)06:12
volmariasMabus06, then you're doubly fine :)06:12
_miketritium: (I'm solid_liq)  Thanks, it's working!!  :D06:12
volmariasMabus06, as long as your system is patched and you're running a firewall, you're almost certainly ok against anything06:12
me2win!avi06:12
ubotu[avi]  Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:12
frank23Neko_Freak: I just noticed I had totem installed and I tried to play a mkv. It worked. Maybe your files are different somehow06:13
volmariasMabus06, unless you have the ports opened up for file sharing on your windows machine, you don't have anything to worry about06:13
Mabus06volmarias: I don't have any firewall software, this is a fresh ubuntu install.06:13
frank23Neko_Freak: make with a new version of mkv or something?06:13
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volmariasMabus06, did you just nuke your windows install because someone sent you a few packets?06:13
Mabus06But I do connect through a router, so there is the firewall aspect of that right?06:13
Mabus06volmarias: no, dual boot.06:13
intelikeyIdleOne i was not the one that brought that up   there were two others in here yesterday saying that their   who   and   w   were borked.   so i tested mine  and it's hosed just like theirs.06:13
Mabus06And because I was going to get around to reinstalling ubuntu on this machine anyway.06:13
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volmariasMabus06, you're probably fine. It doesn't seem like the router is acting like a firewall, because zonealarm is reporting things. Either you have yourself set in the DMZ or you have those ports forwarded06:14
Mabus06And I figure that while I got 4000 high rated intrusions blocked in an hour, it was a good time to turn the computer off.06:14
IdleOneintelikey>  iirc server was added in breezy so yeah it  might have issues that arent resolved06:14
Neko_Freakfrank23: uhh...whaa?06:14
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volmariasMabus06, piss anyone off lately? :)06:14
Grarkhaha06:14
powderintelikey, debian might be better for a server if you're running into problems with ubuntu06:14
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Neko_Freakfrank23: I think im getting closer, i got the audio part to work in gxine06:14
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GrarkI got botted from Azureus-support for helping06:15
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intelikeyIdleOne this is hoary.    they were running  flight4/506:15
cowosemarang06:15
Grarkanyone use azureus a lot here?06:15
frank23Neko_Freak: what did you change?06:15
Neko_Freakfrank23: the audio also shows as running in vlc...just no video06:15
volmariasAnyway, anyone have any suggestions with my samba issue?06:15
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Mabus06volmarias: no, but I did go to the #2600 channell on their network after reading their magazine. I don't think they're as keen on being whitehats as their magazine made me think.06:15
Neko_Freakfrank23: if only i could remember06:15
Neko_Freakfrank23: actually...nothing06:15
cowohi06:15
raptorxguys, it says Unable to open display: 006:15
raptorxany suggestions?06:15
intelikeyIdleOne not   'server'   server install of the normal ubuntu.06:15
volmariasMabus06, did you mask your IP?06:15
Mabus06volmarias: no...06:16
IdleOneintelikey>  beats me I did a server install a couple weeks ago and kept it for 10 mins then switched back to default :/06:16
volmariasThen they probably found you were running mIRC and considered you game :)06:16
Neko_Freakfrank23: but it says it was using matroska06:16
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Mabus06volmarias: actually I was running xchat for windows, got used to it form ubuntu06:16
intelikeyIdleOne does your w  and who  work ?06:16
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schultziI have one quick question: when my screensaver comes on and I unlock the screen, the screensaver comes back on a few seconds later, my screen shuts off, and I can't log back in no matter what I do. I just get a blank screen. Any suggestions?06:16
volmariasAnyway, mabus, if the same domain keeps trying to attack you, block them at the firewall.06:16
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Mabus06volmarias: domain might not have been the right word... the first two octets were always the same06:17
volmariasoh.06:17
raptorxdo do dooo i hate x right now06:17
IdleOneintelikey>  yup they work but like I said Im on default install now06:17
frank23Neko_Freak: and you did install w32codecs, right?06:17
intelikeyk06:17
volmariasMabus06, play dead?06:17
Neko_Freakfrank23: yes06:17
zezucan i add a password to the sudo cmd so i can imbed it in a link to an app so i dont have to type it each  time ?06:17
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rnd_nulli just mounted another hdd and i'm having with syntax to make the drive readable by all users, but not writable...could someone help me with the syntax?06:18
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zezulike i want mplayer to run as root so it can access my mounted ntfs drive that only root can access for some reason06:18
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frank23Neko_Freak: if you run totem or vlc from the console, do you get an error message about vide06:18
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volmariaszezu: Check the mount options. That's probably a better thing to do than running something as root all the time.06:18
thewayofzen**help** I have an ATHLON XP 2800+ and i am currently using 386 architecture..   i only have the single processor should i switch to   linux-k7 kernel??06:18
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, "mkv" support wasn't built in properly to the vlc package, trust me, i just spent 2 days compiling to get it to work06:18
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zezuwhat options do i need ?06:18
intelikeyschultzi   report the bug,  disable screensaver and set bios to take care of the screen until a patch comes out maybe ?06:19
rnd_nullvolmarias, how do i do that?06:19
zezuall i do is mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /win06:19
Mabus06volmarias: you mean leave my computer off? Well yeah, I mean I could throw my box out the window and I could be sure it wouldn't be hacked, but that defeats the point.06:19
rnd_nullvolmarias, nevermind06:19
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Neko_Freakfrank23: HOLY SHIZNITE!!!! Mplayer is actually playing the file O.O06:19
volmariaszezu: not sure.06:19
schultziintelikey: that's just the thing, I have toshiba bios, so i can't change it in linux, I can just disable it06:19
ufozezu, add the uid thing to your fstab and nls=utf806:19
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ufo!ntfs06:19
ubotuI guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:19
frank23Neko_Freak: why the hell wasn't it working before? Oh well, as long as it works!06:20
volmariasMabus06, I'd recommend that you modify the router so that it blocks packets from certain ranges06:20
volmariassuch as the ranges people are trying to get at you from06:20
volmariasand check why you're getting these packets in the first place06:20
intelikeyschultzi  oooo yuch....    sorry.06:20
volmariasMake sure you haven't stuck yourself into the DMZ06:20
volmariasor port forwarded everything06:20
Mabus06volmarias: that's what I was trying, it wasn't out of the question that it was benevolent06:20
schultzidangit, i guess i just wont close my laptop lid then06:20
Mabus06volmarias: but I couldn't tracert any of the ips they were using06:20
zezuufo, whats the uid thing ?06:20
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Neko_Freakfrank23: Bah, but no subtitles.......damn06:21
powderschultzi, why don't you just disable the screensaver?06:21
Mabus06Or dns whois them, or anything.06:21
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ufozezu, umask 022206:21
me2winfrank23, you on dapper?06:21
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ufozezu, see the wiki06:21
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schultzipowder i did, and any time i close the lid, it locks up and i get a blank screen06:21
intelikeyschultzi still disabling screen saver in gnome might make it usable for you..... idk   worth a try.06:21
ufo!tell zezu about ntfs06:21
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, you have to configure mplayer in ~/.mplayer06:21
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frank23me2win: no, breezy06:22
raptorxI cannot get X started properly, i'm getting "Cannot open display"06:22
raptorxI was screwing aroudn with Xgl06:22
frank23Neko_Freak: is there a menu for the subtitles?06:22
schultziraptorx you running dapper?06:22
raptorxflight 506:23
powderschultzi, did you try disabling the "display power management" in the advanced tab as well?06:23
tritium#ubuntu+1 for dapper issues, please06:23
tristanmikefrank23, no there's no menu for file, i've been through all of this the past two days06:23
Neko_Freakfrank23: yeah it says Subtitle & OSD06:23
IdleOnedoes ps x show me pids for all procs of all users?06:23
schultzipowder yes06:23
powderschultzi, damn that was my last idea :(06:23
frank23tristanmike: I never had problems with mkv using kaffeine-xine06:23
schultzipowder haha, oh well, no problem06:24
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raptorxi guess ill try to reinstall the driver06:24
tristanmikefrank23, my major problem was that I have a dual audio file, and jap is the main language, but mplayer wouldn't let me change audio track, totem did, but it screwed up the begining english audio, it was a mess06:25
Neko_Freakfrank23: Bah, and i got my hopes up...audio is all messed up and no subtitles06:25
Neko_Freak>.<06:25
me2winhow do i play avi xvid in gnome? I installed w32codecs and still nothing06:25
schultzime2win did you install xvid?06:26
tristanmikeNeko_Freak, you won't be able to get subs or change audio tracks for a file by using menus in mplayer06:26
IdleOneme2win> [avi]  Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:26
powderme2win, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs06:26
phiber_opticdoes anybody know any good html editor for ubuntu?06:26
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andrehello06:26
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intelikeyphiber_optic vim06:27
frank23tristanmike: I have no problems with kaffeine-xine. did you try it?06:27
zezuis there any way to make mplayer stretch the video to fit the window? i can't find any in the man pages other than possibly expand but i think thats for mencoder06:27
phiber_opticintelikey isnt there like a software?06:27
frank23tristanmike: kaffeine lets you choose the audio track and subtitle track easil06:27
tristanmikefrank23, you know, never did, trying now06:27
raptorxwhat is fglrxconfig packaged with06:27
raptorxits not installed06:27
me2winschmity, whats the package name for xvid?06:27
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Neko_Freakbah back06:27
Neko_Freakfrank23: u still here?06:27
rnd_nullsolid_liq, how do i change the permissions of a partition that i jsut mounted?06:27
schmityme2win: what do you mean?06:28
frank23Neko_Freak: yeah06:28
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intelikeyyeah prolly phiber_optic   apt-cache search "html edit"06:28
unfozezu: have you tried other video players? maybe they can do it. btw, you mean normal or non-aspect-ratio stretching?06:28
schultziphiber_optic you can just enable syntax highlighting in vim if that's what you want06:28
zezueither06:28
unfophiber_optic: apt-get install nvu06:28
powderNeko_Freak, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs   make sure you have listed codecs installed06:28
zezuand i have tried vlc but i think i broke it06:28
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solid_liqrnd_null: how do you mean?06:28
zezui rebuilt the whole thing and now it doesn't work06:28
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phiber_opticunfo what is nvu?06:28
andremy dvd wont play movies can someone help06:29
me2winschmity, you asked me if i installed xvid, the only thing xvid I have installed is avifile-xvid-plugin06:29
rnd_nullsolid_liq, i mounted a drive and the owner is set as root and only root can read the drive, how to i fix that so i can read it?06:29
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unfophiber_optic: iirc it's the open-source html editor that originally was part of netscape communicator.06:29
intelikeyphiber_optic did you do     apt-cache search "html edit"06:29
schmityme2win: ok06:29
schmityme2win: so what do you need help with?06:29
frank23powder: it's better if you refer people to wiki pages instead external references like that06:29
me2wini need to know how to play avi xvid files in gnome06:29
me2winive already installed w32codecs06:30
intelikeyrnd_null what file system is the drive ?06:30
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rnd_nullsolid_liq, ntfs06:30
tristanmikezezu, to get mplayer to use full screen, Preferences->Video-> and select "xv  X11/Xv"06:30
ufo!tell me2win about restricted06:30
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zezutristanmike, xv doesn't work06:30
intelikey!ntfs06:30
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:30
zezugets me a black screen06:30
phiber_opticfound screem and gphpedit06:30
powderfrank23, ohh sorry i didn't know.  this link seems to be the same steps as in the official wiki only all command line06:30
unfome2win: i use debian and totem_gstreamer, xvids generally seem to work for me06:30
m-00kiehello im trying to install ubuntu on my pc but after it formats and partitions the harddrive, i get a red screen with a fatal error saying "The installer cannot figure out how to install the base system.  NO installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"..06:30
intelikeyrnd_null  see ubotu  ^06:30
tristanmikezezu, you restarted mplayer?06:30
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zezui did06:31
m-00kiewhy am i getting that?  it booted from the CD just fine, and started up the ubuntu installer ..06:31
schultzim-00kie do you have another optical drive?06:31
tristanmikezezu, enable double buffering ?06:31
frank23!tell powder about ubuntuguide06:31
rnd_nullsolid_liq, but, what i'm asking is how do you change the permissions? i cant get it to work06:31
unfome2win: xvid is open-source and doesn't require w32codecs. just try apt-get search xvid inside any Xterm and install any gstreamer codecs listed06:31
raptorxdamnit!06:31
m-00kieanother? no06:31
zezuyes it was on the whole time06:31
powderfrank23, thank you06:31
frank23powder: that page is basically a newer version of ubuntuguide06:31
solid_liqrnd_null: how do you mean?  is it read-only or what?06:31
schultzim-00kie because that happened to me when i tried to install, my cd-rw drive couldnt read fast enough06:31
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solid_liqrnd_null: and what are you mounting?06:32
m-00kieits a DVD drive06:32
intelikeyrnd_null it's in the   *mask=   settings   read the link06:32
tristanmikezezu, hmmm06:32
rnd_nullsolid_liq, ok06:32
raptorxXgl is on display 9306:32
schultzim-00kie i could be wrong, just a suggestion06:32
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raptorxhow is that possible06:32
solid_liqrnd_null: (cd, dvd, or what kind of filesystem)06:32
phiber_opticI was trying to install mysql then it froze06:32
phiber_opticnow I could not get lock /var/lib/apt06:32
unfome2win: let me know if it works or not.06:32
phiber_optic Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:32
raptorxHow can I get Xgl on display 1 like it's supposed to be06:33
intelikeysolid_liq  it's ntfs   but part of that time he was talking to me   using your nick....06:33
zezugl works, very slowly (mesa)06:33
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raptorxi have ATI drivers installed06:33
raptorxbut it for some reason isnt working06:33
solid_liqintelikey: ? oh06:33
raptorxit says its running on display 9306:33
raptorxfglrx drivers..06:34
tristanmikezezu, you have your drivers ?  nvidia or ati ?06:34
phiber_opticshould I reboot my computer to remove the lock?06:34
zezutristanmike, they dont work06:34
schultziraptorx the opensource ati drivers or official closed source ones?06:34
tristanmikezezu, ewww, that's no good06:34
tritium!xgl06:34
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/06:34
zezui've tried installing, rebuilding the kernel, using differnet kernels06:34
frank23phiber_optic: if the lock is there and there are no apt programs open,  sudo rm the lock06:34
zezuati06:34
zezuof course06:34
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zezuati = trash i'll never buy again06:34
tritiumXgl is a dapper feature...ask in #ubuntu-xgl, or #ubuntu+1, not here06:34
intelikeysolid_liq he asked you, and i jumped in and answered;  he never changed the nick but started talking to me.... sorry for all the confusion.   ;/06:35
raptorxuhh its.. the ones off the wiki the opensource ones i believe06:35
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Franciscohello06:35
tristanmikezezu, I agree, but I believe you are now out of my range of help, sorry06:35
Franciscohow can I update amarok??06:35
me2winunfo, xvid works, mpg is still f00ked though06:35
schultziraptorx and you are running dapper, right?06:35
solid_liqintelikey: no prob :D06:35
zezuyea, i guess there is no video stretching w/ x11 ?06:35
phiber_opticstill cannot do it06:35
raptorxI am running dapper06:35
ufozezu, ati works fine with fglrx drivers06:35
raptorxthe problem is I must have configured it wrong06:35
unfome2win: cool. does mpg work for u in totem?06:35
raptorxXgl is on display 9306:35
zezuufo, no they dont on my box06:35
phiber_opticand my cpu is runningat 100 %06:35
phiber_optic:(06:35
me2winunfo, no06:36
ufozezu, what card?06:36
raptorxdoes anyone know off hand how to get it to display 1 or 006:36
zezui'm not even going there, they are 100% broke no matter what you do on my box06:36
zezu9800 pro06:36
schultziraptorx yea, that's weird, sorry, i can't really help06:36
zezuwell xv might work with them06:36
raptorxi cant remember the config file..06:36
raptorxwith the [servers]  tab06:36
zezubut dri / hw accell gl doesn't06:36
raptorxi cant remember where it is at all06:36
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unfome2win: the proper package is probably gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:36
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ufozezu, have you got the 3d accelaration to work06:36
me2winunfo, i installed that one already06:37
zezuthats a big no06:37
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powderraptorx, i have a question for you, do you have 1280x960 resolution available to you?06:37
zezulike i said dri won't work06:37
raptorxpowder, I dont think so06:37
kruncherwhere can i send a message to ubuntu developers for problem ive noticed with the default theme?06:37
unfome2win: i suppose also try xine, vlc, and mplayer to see if they work06:37
ufozezu, are you sure the reason is fglrx06:37
powderraptorx, damn, that's my preferred resolution and i can't get it to work with ati drivers / breezy06:37
raptorxpowder, Xgl starts up on display 93 it loads up gnome (kind of) and it loads the background06:37
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zezuufo, yes, it could be because of agpgart but either way its fglrx failing in the end06:38
Franciscohow can I update amarok??06:38
Franciscohow can I update amarok??06:38
Franciscohow can I update amarok??06:38
Franciscohow can I update amarok??06:38
raptorxpowder, maybe if i just change the drivers to display 9306:38
zezuit has both mtrr errors and just fails dri init otherwise too06:38
raptorxby spamming a lot06:38
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Hobbseelol...darn06:38
raptorxi'll give it a shot06:38
michael117How can I find the dependencies of a deb package with dpkg?06:38
ufozezu, do you use dapper?06:38
zezubreezy i think06:38
powderraptorx, not sure, i refuse to use ati drivers until they support 1280x960 >:O06:38
Hobbseeah, i wasnt identified - that was why06:39
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ufo!tell zezu about ati06:39
frank23ati's drivers apparently are getting better but I guess they are not at the nvidia level yet06:39
malvcan xgl work with 5.10?06:39
zezuufo, i've read that before06:39
naliothmalv: no it can not06:39
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zezuworthless to me06:39
ufozezu, have tried the last thread06:40
zezulet me read the last one06:40
powderdoes anyone here run the ati drivers and have 1280x960 available?  i've tried and not even custom modelines would work06:40
me2winpowder, they support my 1920x1200, why wouldnt they support your 1280x96006:40
ufopowder, i have 1280x80006:40
powderthose resolutions aren't 4:3 aspect ratio :(06:40
zezuthe closest one to come close to working was on SuSE 10 when i completely rebuilt the kernel and fglrx (as much as is possible) and it still didn't work06:40
frank23zezu: why do you need that specific resolution?06:41
zezu?06:42
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powderfrank, you mean me?06:42
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intelikeyok going to do things.  be back in a while.06:42
MistaEDman, ati need to put more effort into fglrx, is it even stable enough to run workstation stuff like maya or blender btw?06:42
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MistaEDlet alone fast enough?06:42
frank23powder: umm... yeah06:42
ufoMistaED, yes it works fine with blender06:43
zezuufo i s`pose i'll give it a shot later, if it comes down to it maybe the fglrx driver will let me use xv even if dri doesn't init06:43
powderfrank23, it's just my preferred resolution... i don't think it's too much to ask of ati to support it... :)06:43
MistaEDafaik, Xv needs to be manually enabled in the xorg.conf, just giving a heads up06:44
frank23powder: I see. I just use the highest my eyes and monitor can handle ;)06:44
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zezusudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver06:45
zezuwhat is the #Select the ATI driver ?06:45
zezuis it just a comment put into a cmd file ?06:45
powderfrank23, Well I wouldn't mind 1600x1200 but my monitor can only do 75hz at that resolution and my eyes prefer at least 85hz06:45
zezuor am i supposed to replace that with something ?06:45
frank23powder: I bought a used 21" that does 1600x1200@85 for 150 $CAD. its pretty sweet06:46
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phiber_opticanyone know how to install phpmyadmin06:47
unfoCRTs are cheap nowadays.06:47
powderfrank23, I know I need to upgrade lol :D06:47
unfophiber_optic: :) try sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin06:47
Mika_i:)06:47
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frank23Is an LCD's lifetime much shorter than a CRT? I would think so...06:48
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Mabus06frank23: yes06:49
frank23Mabus06: is it possible to replace the backlight?06:49
Mabus06frank23: no idea06:50
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powderi'm kinda bored with breezy now... are there any showstoppers in dapper?06:50
Sionideanyone got any tips for getting a wireless router working if the default username/password doesn't work even after pressing the factory reset button??06:50
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Madpilotpowder, it's orange rather than brown06:50
Madpilot:P06:50
mr_politeinstalling the 3d desktop for breezy makes thing interesting...06:50
ironucklesDoes anyone know of a good NES emulator?06:51
powderMadpilot, lol I know I saw the screenshots...06:51
mr_politesnes9x06:51
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mr_politeoh06:51
frank23powder: the proposed dapper delayed date is June 1st. If they decide to wait, release is still a while away06:51
mr_politesorry i read that snes06:51
mr_politenester is an exlellect nes emu06:51
unfoironuckles: apt-cache search nintendo06:51
unfoor apt-cache search nes06:51
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ironucklesokay06:51
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powderfrank23, are you running dapper?06:52
frank23ironuckles: fceu  is great. command line only. check the forums for configuration06:52
frank23powder: no, I'm waiting for dapper06:52
Nunquam_FidelisCan someone _please_ help me get GRUB installed via Dapper Drake LiveCD?06:52
phiber_opticdoes anybody know how to see my webpage when i put my ip address in apache?06:52
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powderfrank23, i think i should wait too :)06:53
frank23powder: yeah, waiting is though ;)06:53
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powderphiber_optic, are you behind a router?06:54
phiber_opticyeah06:54
phiber_opticpowder06:54
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Toma-Nunquam_Fidelis: #ubuntu+1 for dapper help06:54
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powderphiber_optic, you need to forward port 80 (or whichever port you're using) in your router config06:54
phiber_opticohh ok06:54
powderphiber_optic, also open that port in firestarter if you're using it06:55
phiber_opticim not using firestarter06:55
punkassi am running dapper and have the intel 915gm and i get "direct rendering: Yes" but when I run Xorg-air I get direct rendering: no06:55
punkassany ideas?06:55
powderphiber_optic, ok you should just have to forward the port in your router config then06:55
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phiber_opticok poweder thanx06:55
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powderphiber_optic, let me know when you do and i'll test your webserver out06:56
frank23One thing I would like in linux is the type of firewall where, when an app wants network access, it alerts you and lets you decide yes or no. I such a thing available?06:56
bhongongguys need a bit help06:56
phiber_opticpowder ive done it06:56
concept10need help with samba:  I am able to see my Ubuntu shared directory from Windows but it says I have a permissions problem (on win side) any suggestions?06:56
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powderphiber_optic, what port are you using?06:57
bhongongubuntu detects my USB Wifi but how do I use it?06:57
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phiber_opticpowder it worked I already checked it06:58
phiber_optic;)06:58
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phiber_opticthanx by the way06:58
concept10unfo, any idea where I should start06:58
powderphiber_optic, ok :)06:58
bhongonganyone knows how do i make my USB Wifi (Surecom EP-90001-g) work?06:59
unfoconcept10: can you access the share from another windows PC?06:59
unfoIn Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits *you*.07:00
rob138anyone know why amarok would say access denied when i try to transfer a mp3 to my ipod?07:00
concept10unfo, I only have one windows box07:01
Hystyrob138, maybe your ipod has been mounted read only?07:02
rob138where do i check/change that?07:02
unfoconcept10: I am assuming sharing is set up properly on the Windows side. try this 1st: run smbtree and enter your windows password.07:02
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zezuufo, same shit07:03
zezumtrr errors and no dri07:03
zezuusing mesa07:03
zezuinstall went great tho07:03
m-00kieah i found the problem07:03
m-00kiebad image :)07:04
m-00kiefailed integrity check :(07:04
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concept10unfo, I get no output07:04
rob138hysty, do you know where i would change that?07:04
=== m-00kie burns another CD at .0000000000001 X :P
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painkilerhey guys, how do i upgrade to gnome 2.14?07:04
unfoconcept10: nmap $WINDOWS_BOX_IP_ADDRESS07:04
unfom-00kie: I hope you use CD-RWs :)07:05
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ufozezu, you could try to create new xorg.conf... did you use the old one?07:05
zezuheh07:05
zezuof course i didn't use the old one no07:05
rob138how do i change the mounting properties of my ipod?07:05
Hystyrob138, umm not really07:05
rob138hmm07:06
ufozezu, do you use 64bit07:06
zezunope x8607:06
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zezuoddly now i can't change my screen resolution back07:06
zezueven though 1280x1024 is in the config file ;|07:07
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m-00kieunfo - eh? CD's are so cheap nowdays, i certainly wouldnt cry over a bad CD-R :P07:07
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m-00kieeven DVD-R's are cheap now07:07
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concept10unfo, 5 open ports 135:msrpc, 139:netbios-ssn, 445:microsoft-ds, 1025:nfs or iis, and 5000:upnp07:08
malvis 6.04 fairly stable?07:08
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zezuhow can i change the screen res. to something when the resolution switcher doesn't have it in the dropdown ?07:08
painkileragain, how do i upgrade to gnome 2.1407:08
unfoall, shouldn't both 137 and 139 be open on all windows boxen with file sharing enabled?07:09
zezuI can't stand this res.07:09
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Madpilot!tell zezu about fixres07:09
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powderzezu, you using ati drivers?07:09
zezucrap that they are yes07:09
zezuthey dont work07:09
painkiler!tell me about gnome07:09
powderzezu, i feel your pain :(07:09
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zezuMadpilot, i dont think i need to do all that i was just using 1280x1024 a min. ago07:11
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zezuuntil i installed the fglrx driver07:11
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zezuso why would i need to reconfigure xorg again twice ?07:11
bhongong/exit07:11
Madpilotzezu, installing fglrx changed your res?07:11
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DarkEyes#ubuntu-cn07:11
zezuyes07:11
painkilerjust apt-get install gnome?07:12
zezuinstalling fglrx changed the res, and the res in the switcher no longer has 1280x102407:12
painkilerman would someone friggen help me?07:12
powderzezu, when i had the ati drivers installed 1280x1024 was one of the options in the drop down... :-/07:13
Hystyis there a simple way to stop nautilus auto-launching totem when I insert a DVD?07:13
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zezudamn07:13
zezuxv still doesn't even work07:13
unfopainkiler, rudeness doesn't get you answers.07:14
zezuthis probably screwed more up than it helped, i think i still have my old config file07:14
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andrehello can someone tell me were i can get libdvdcss07:14
powderzezu, i had that problem too after installing ati drivers07:14
unfozezu: i use imagemagick display(1)07:14
painkilersorry unfo07:14
Madpilotpainkiler, Dapper will have 2.14, wait until it's released07:14
unfopainkiler: np :) but i don't have your answer, i use debian07:14
painkilerbut can i do it in breasy?07:14
zezubrb, need to restart xorg07:14
Madpilotpainkiler, not likely.07:15
unfopainkiler: maybe the latest dapper beta has 2.14.07:15
painkilerwill dapper have xgl?07:15
powderunfo, do you prefer kde or gnome?  just wondering :)07:15
andrewich os do you prefer deb or ub07:15
unfopowder: kde ofcourse. it's slower to start up but faster to get hard stuff done in it.07:15
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unfoalso, i prefer debian, it's more Free.07:16
zezuusing old config worked like a charm07:16
mr_politefree as in beer07:16
unfoyup. although hardware detection and hibernate support are better in ubuntu I think.07:16
andrei had probleme swith deb it would install the xwindow07:16
powderdebian still uses xfree86 if i'm not mistaken :P07:17
mr_politeanyone wanna help me make samba shares of ntfs drives?07:17
unfopowder: not anymore. but they did for a while. debian likes tried, tested stable software.07:17
andreyes but aptitude would not install it right07:17
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unfoandre: you mean X?07:18
andreyes x07:18
unfoandre: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core && startx07:18
powderunfo, cool, i want to give debian/kde a shot :)07:18
zezuso again, there is no way to make mplayer stretch, scale, expand, alter or whatever the video in windowed or fullscreen mode with the default X11 video driver ?07:18
andrewere do i get dvd player drivers that work07:19
powderzezu, nope07:19
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zezuthats worthless07:19
zezuits like 3"x3"07:19
zezui'd need a 1080p video to get it near fullscreen07:20
powderzezu, did you try gl or gl2?07:20
unfopowder: you should. using debian is more educational as you do more stuff yourself using vim/emacsinstead of having graphical configuration tools to do it for you. also they have an excellent bug tracking corps, perhaps better organized than ubuntu's as they cover all of universe well.07:20
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zezupowder, sure but it uses mesa so its slow as hell07:20
shadeofgreydude i just dist-upgraded to dapper flight 5 i asume and the new version of xchat is whacked out07:20
jon_Debian is such a slow bear ;)07:20
shadeofgreysomebody help me make it look....  normal before i lose it07:20
Hystyandre: did you get your libdvdcss?07:20
unfojon_: ???07:21
andreno07:21
andresot found07:21
jon_unfo, haha nevermind. tis was a joke ;)07:21
unfoah :)07:21
andrei dont understand the legallity07:21
powderunfo, do you use stable or testing?07:21
andre mandriva runs dvd like a charm at first boot07:22
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shadeofgreyi need someboldy to paste the link to trhe best dapper sources.list file07:22
tritiumshadeofgrey: see topic re: dapper questions07:22
andreso why is it such a pain for other distro's07:22
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shadeofgreyi need one  that includes access to w32codecs and the like07:22
Hobbsee!tell shadeofgrey about w32codecs07:22
Hobbsee!tell shadeofgrey about repos07:23
unfopowder: testing. i personally believe that stable is for servers.07:23
kdittyhow come I have to reconfigure my wireless card every time I start up ubuntu? i have to change the 'mode' 'channel' 'essid' on every boot07:23
painkilerwhat is the closes program to itunes for my ipod?07:23
tritiumkditty: you don't.  Configure that in your /etc/network/interfaces.07:23
powderunfo, thanks i'll probably give debian a shot tomorrow07:23
kdittysudeo gedit /etc/network/interfaces.?07:23
kdittysudo*07:24
unfoalthough since a week or 2 ago vlc is missing from testing, which sucks, so i had to install totem instead. use testing+unstable if you want to get around the missing packages problem.07:24
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andrewhat do you guys think of mandriva and why07:24
unfoandre: doesn't have nearly as much packages as ubuntu, which is annoying. :)07:25
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painkileranything to play music from my ipod?07:25
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andretrue07:25
unfopainkiler: amarok07:25
painkilergood?07:26
unfopainkiler: the best07:26
ufo!itunes07:26
ubotufrom memory, itunes is a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.07:26
kdittytritium, do i run sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces. to configure that?07:26
unfopowder: np. tip: if you are short on time, install Debian base first, it could take you an hour, then install x-window-system-core and kde later.07:26
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painkilerthanx guys07:27
painkilercya later07:27
andrei tried  3 os this month i not wich one will teach me the most about linux but also work like a horse on my 1.3 amd duron07:27
zezuheh07:27
unfopowder: also, if you have less than a year of linux experience, have a friend handy, or at least an extra machine with IRC on it.07:27
tritiumkditty: yes.  man wireless for details07:27
zezuusing the reg. "ati" driver is way better07:27
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powderunfo, haha that's a damn good idea :)07:27
kdittytrintum, that file is empty, and what do you mean by man wireless for details?07:27
unfopowder: thx :)07:28
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andreless than a year ya i have less than a couple of weeks07:28
mrglassola boys and girls07:28
mrglassquestion07:28
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unfomrglass: ola.07:28
mrglassi have this linux pc on my local network07:28
powderunfo, i do have one more question about debian07:28
unfosure07:28
mrglassmy windows machine is sharing a printer07:28
powderunfo, last time i installed, this part of the boot process had me scratching my head...07:28
powderunfo, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s02.html.en#base-config-mta07:29
mrglassanyway i can set that printer up with my linux pc?07:29
unfomrglass: yes07:29
mrglassawesome07:29
unfomrglass: the SAMBA HOWTO tells more about it.07:29
phiber_optichow can I uninstall something completely07:29
phiber_optic?07:29
powderunfo, i mean install process, not boot process sorry07:29
unfophiber_optic: sudo apt-get remove --purge $NAME_OF_THE_PACKAGE07:29
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phiber_opticohh true unfo i forgot the remove...07:30
mrglasswheres the samba howto?07:30
phiber_opticbut does this delete all the libraries that it installed?07:30
ufomithn sit jauhelihasta vrkkis muusin lisks07:30
tonyyarusso!fi07:30
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi07:30
unfopowder: yep, that's amond the most confusing question for newbies. i filed a bug against that question. anyway, choose: "local delivery only" and it shouldn't ask you any more.07:31
ufo:D07:31
unfoamong*07:31
powderunfo, thanks!  i thought that's what i should choose but i wanted to be sure :)07:31
andrewhat books do you gyus recommend i read to teach me command line commands07:31
tonyyarusso!cli07:32
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org07:32
tonyyarussoandre: I'd say use those rather than books.07:32
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andrehaving a tought time at it miss a space and it wont work07:32
unfoandre: go to your local university or town Linux User Group or Computer Club. in-person help is often easier to learn from07:32
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unfomrglass: on google. but actually, i'm wrong, you don't need the howto.07:32
shadeofgreyokay07:33
andre thanks for all the help and patience07:33
shadeofgreyso if i did a dist-upgrade just now07:33
unfoandre: np07:33
shadeofgreyi should be on flight 5 right?07:33
unfoandre: glad to spread the word of linux :)07:33
shadeofgreyif thats the case why ther hell do i have to manually reconnect my ethernet card through DHCP every time the system boots?07:33
Gnumannenshadeofgrey, yes07:33
shadeofgreythat hasnt happened to me like ever07:34
shadeofgreyso07:34
unfomrglass: in the printer configuration dialog, there should be an option to connect to a remote printer using Samba or SMB. but I use Debian, not Ubuntu, so I do not know the details.07:34
shadeofgreyeither its a bug...  which i highly doubt, or i have bad settings somewhere...  which i suspect07:34
kdittywhat did tritium mean when he said man wireless for details?07:34
kdittydoes anyone know?07:34
unfomrglass: sorry about that07:34
unfokitty_: Applications -> Terminal07:34
andrewhy do you type in read you mad07:34
unfooops07:34
unfokditty: Applications -> Terminal07:34
shadeofgreyand im totally hating this new xchat winsow layout deal07:34
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unfokditty: then type in: man wireless07:35
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shadeofgreyits totally messing with my universe07:35
unfokditty: then press Enter. then read, then press q to quit.07:35
shadeofgreysomebody smart take some time and help me?07:35
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kdittyok, thanks07:35
shadeofgreyim...  emotionally fragile when it comes to GUI problems07:35
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andrebut its fun isnt it07:35
unfomrglass: you go to YU? mind if i PM you?07:35
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tritiumkditty: I meant for you to read the manual page "wireless"07:36
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tritiumkditty: man pages are also available through yelp (the gnome help system)07:36
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kdittyok sorry, i had no clue what you mean by man, thanks07:37
Mabus06kditty is new to ubuntu, I don't think reading a man page is doing to fix their problem07:37
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unfoand a cup of steaming Virtual Pekoe tea.07:37
Mabus06I'm curious myself as to why they have to reconfigure their card every time they start up.07:37
unfothat's a good point, i was just answering her question but i should have explained manpages can be hard for new users to understand.07:38
tritiumMabus06: there is no reason.  It's not necessary07:38
Madpilotshadeofgrey, you suffering with XChat-Gnome, or what?07:38
mrglasswhich samba how-to should i read? im not getting the official one, too technical07:38
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unfomrglass: you don't need to.07:41
mrglassshadeofgrey - i feel your pain, i used to suffer under adelphia07:41
mrglassdont need to?07:41
unfomrglass: mind if I PM you?07:41
mrglassgo for it07:41
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painkilerhey guys07:43
_Lamont_evening07:43
painkilerhow do i install a gtk-2.0 theme?07:43
_Lamont_Sorry, I'm pretty new to Unbuntu/Linux... I know enough to fight my way through getting up the basic services I need :(07:44
Madpilotpainkiler, download it, open System->Prefs->Theme, drag the d/l'd file into the Theme Manager windwo07:45
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jon__Lamont_, Go ahead and ask away, most of us have some measure of patience ;)07:45
Madpilotpainkiler, you might have to go into the Theme Details window to find all the bits you just downloaded & use them07:45
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painkiler__sorry abou that07:46
ChodderDoes the kubuntu sources.list differ from the ubuntu one?07:46
painkiler__did i get an answer?07:46
painkiler__or did my question even get delivered?07:46
painkiler__how do i install a gtk-2.0 theme?07:47
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painkiler__i have googled it07:47
painkiler__sorry abou that07:47
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painkiler__but not luck07:47
Chodder<Madpilot> painkiler, you might have to go into the Theme Details window to find all the bits you just downloaded & use them07:47
ChodderThat was the answer :)07:47
painkiler__but where do i throw my files?07:47
painkiler__ah got it07:48
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painkiler__thanx07:48
ChodderNo problem07:48
ChodderThank Madpilot :)07:48
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LeeJunFanhow the hell can I mount NFS shares on a client which doesn't have portmapper w/o waiting for the 2 min timeout? with portmapper on the client it's immediate.07:49
tritiumLeeJunFan: language, please07:50
unfomrglass: anyway, go to the printer configuration screen. do you see a network printing option?07:50
ChodderHell? cmon now... Unless you are highly religous no one should be offended by that07:50
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Chodder:)07:50
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LeeJunFanno kidding, that's what I was thinking. And even if you were.07:50
painkiler__which file do i open for the install of my theme?07:51
painkiler__there is a whole bunch but i don't know which one to install...07:51
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MrStaticHello was curious if anyone can tell me how much trouble I am in if I am seeing "<0>Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"07:51
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jon_LeeJunFan, While hell is ok in certain instances.  I think tritium was more leaning towards your anger.07:51
mrglassunfo: trying to find the printer config screen07:51
Chodderpainkiler__, im not sure did it come in a gz or bz2?07:51
painkiler__oh07:51
tritiumright, jon_07:51
painkiler__yeah, it did ... im am such a noob07:52
rob138can anyone help me troubleshoot  my amarok compile?07:52
Chodderpainkiler__, We've all been there at some point07:52
Chodder:)07:52
mrglassunfo: ok, im in add a printer07:52
unforob138: sudo apt-get install amarok :)07:52
LeeJunFanjon_: frustration really. I've been beating my head over this trying to get a NFSboot to work, but nfs / won't mount in time because client system doesn't have portmapper on it.07:52
unfomrglass: ok, it must be a network printer, and you must know the share name.07:52
mrglassunfo: network printers there07:52
rob138i would, but i want the m4a support07:52
tritiumLeeJunFan: I understand.  We're cool.07:53
mrglassunfo: guesing i should select windows printer07:53
Madpilotpainkiler, download it, open System->Prefs->Theme, drag the d/l'd file into the Theme Manager window <-- not sure if you saw this originally?07:53
ChodderLeeJunFan, there should be a way to adjust the timeout in a config07:53
ChodderOr set a standard timeout07:53
ChodderMadpilot, he has it now07:53
powderunfo, if i were to install the debian base first, how would i install kde?  just apt-get update kde as root?07:53
ChodderI pasted that back to him07:53
LeeJunFanChodder: I wish I could find something. portmapper really doens't have much of anything for args or config.07:53
ChodderHmm07:54
unfopowder: as root: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x-window-system-base kde07:54
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shadeofgreydoes anybody know if macromedia stopped being communist and finally released version 8 for linux?07:54
unfopowder: oops! im wrong.07:54
powderunfo, hehe07:54
unfopowder: as root: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x-window-system kde07:54
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Hystyshadeofgrey, not that I am aware of07:54
Psykusis there anyway to remove the arrow icons from desktop shortcuts on gnome?07:54
powderunfo, debian uses sudo???07:55
ChodderI wish they would release shockwave for linux07:55
shadeofgreythat blows rancid ardvark balls.07:55
ChodderSo I can play shockwave games07:55
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unfopowder: oops again! as root, apt-get update && apt-get install x-window-system-base kde07:55
unfo:)07:55
Chodder!kde07:55
uboturumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:55
unfopowder: i'm tired. i use sudo personally, it only takes 30 sec to install and get working.07:55
unfopowder: so i automatically stuck the word sudo in there. but the #debian ppl will be glad to help you set up sudo.07:56
powderunfo, oh i see.  i will probably install it because i'm so used to typing it :)07:56
Hystyhmm firefox has stopped working...*ponders*07:56
unfoi don't know why it isn't set up & installed w/ debian by default.07:57
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unfoHysty: use konqueror instead :)07:57
Chodderunfo, because debian isn't supposed to be a new user based distro such as *ubuntu07:57
Hystyunfo, i like my firefox extensions tho07:57
unfoHysty: oh07:57
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unfoHysty: if you describe the error message and/or symptoms then maybe ppl will help you :)07:58
mrglassunfo: didnt work :(07:58
unfoChodder: so what?07:58
Chodderunfo, I'm just asnwering your question07:58
Chodder<unfo> i don't know why it isn't set up & installed w/ debian by default.07:58
unfomrglass: what do you mean? what's the error message or symptoms?07:58
Hystywhen I click on the icon to open firefox, it displays the 'Starting Firefox Web Browser' and then it just closes down07:58
painkiler__so, upgrading to drapper in breasy works?07:59
unfoChodder: i know. :) but i feel there's no correlation btw hardcoreness and lack of sudo.07:59
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Sianis_painkiler__: it worked for me07:59
painkiler__could you guide me through?07:59
unfopainkiler__: why bother upgrading?07:59
painkiler__um08:00
painkiler__xgl08:00
mrglassunfo: well, i went to add a printer, network printer, windows printer, entered acorrect host and printer name08:00
MrStaticHello was curious if anyone can tell me how much trouble I am in if I am seeing "<0>Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"08:00
unfomrglass: ok08:00
Chodderunfo, sudo is considered a security risk in the debian world, and besides the the guys #debian are pretty hardcore :P08:00
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painkiler__debian sucks08:00
unfoMrStatic: did it always do that?08:00
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powderlol what's with all the negativity08:00
MrStaticThis was my first attempt08:00
Hystyah..there it goes...system resources tied up with dvd rip08:00
Sianis_you need just change your sources.list08:00
mrglassunfo: it added the printer08:00
MrStaticlivecd and install cd do it08:00
unfomrglass: ok08:00
Chodderpainkiler__, Ubuntu is based upon debian08:00
mrglassunfo: but when i print a test page, nothing happens08:00
painkiler__i know08:00
painkiler__i was jking08:00
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unfomrglass: oh.08:00
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Psykushow do I stop X/gnome from running? i need to install nvidia drivers, and ctrl alt backspace will kill the GUI, but bring it back up08:01
mrglassunfo: no error, print job doesnt stop, just sits there08:01
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unfomrglass: any error message or sthg under printer status?08:01
mrglassno08:01
mrglasswait, i think i know the prob08:01
ChodderPsykus, alt+ctrl f1 and type killall gdm as a super user08:01
tritiumPsykus: temporarily?  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop08:01
unfomrglass: if not, go to http://localhost:631 and enter root and root password.08:01
naliothPsykus: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"08:01
mrglassits with my network08:01
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naliothChodder: that is a nasty hack and will not stop gdm from respawning08:01
mrglassunfo: my network was setup with the host over the wan port08:01
unfomrglass: easiest way is to test that windows to windows printing works first.08:02
mrglassunfo: i can still share the printer with my windows laptop though08:02
unfoMrStatic: i don't understand.08:02
Choddernalioth, usually it does, not sure about in ubuntu but on my LFS system it sure does :)08:02
mrglassunfo: but its not showing up under the drop down list for hosts ina dd a printer08:02
tritiumChodder: invoke-rc.d would be the preferred approach08:02
unfopainkiler__: i always put smileys on jokes :)08:02
painkiler__sorry08:02
Choddereh, I'm old school08:02
Psykusok, thanks nalioth08:02
painkiler__im not with the crowd08:02
Psykusbrb then :P08:02
MrStaticunfo: I put the install cd or the live cd in doesnt matter, i get the boot: prompt so I type linux it scrolls then does taht error08:02
unfoMrStatic: ah. i didn't understand.08:03
unfoMrStatic: how many cd-rom drives do you have in your home or apartment?08:03
painkiler__Sianis_: could you give me your sources.list?08:03
MrStaticunfo: The cd's are straight from ubuntu08:03
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unfoMrStatic: cd-rom *drives* not cds08:03
MrStaticunfo: I mean if your infering to a bad burn08:04
unfono08:04
MrStaticunfo: I checksum'd them in windows best I could do08:04
unfoi want to know if you could boot up from a different cd drive instead. either an external or a cd drive in a different computer.08:04
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MrStaticunfo: They work fine on this pc08:04
unfomrglass: so?08:04
MrStaticunfo: Is there an odd prompt I have to add for an amd?08:05
unfomrglass: any news? :)08:05
unfoMrStatic: no08:05
MrStaticunfo: k never used amd and linux together08:05
mrglassunfo: still investigating if my linux maxchine sees my other pc at all08:05
MrStaticunfo: just fishing for issues08:05
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Chodderooo2 takes way to long to install :/08:05
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painkilerSianis_: you around?08:05
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unfoMrStatic: if it can't find the root fs...08:05
unfoChodder: you need abiword :)08:06
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Chodderlol08:06
MrStaticunfo: Doesnt even get that far08:06
Chodderunfo, same here08:06
Chodder:)08:06
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ChodderI lost my whole system earlier....08:07
unfoMrStatic: do you have another computer you can try it on?08:07
ChodderDamn laptop hard drive is on the fritz08:07
unfoMrStatic: or just another cd drive on the same computer08:07
mikeloanybody know how to play encrypted wmv files?08:07
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tritium!enter08:07
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.08:07
painkilerhas anyone else upgraded to drapper through breasy?08:07
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MrStaticIve swapped cd-roms, tried a few08:07
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tritiumpainkiler: it's "dapper" and "breezy" ;)08:07
unfomikelo: w32codecs, but they're illegal in some countries08:07
painkilersorry08:07
painkilerwhad did i say?08:08
painkileroh08:08
mikelounfo, it doesn't work08:08
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unfomikelo: do you have windows xp installed already?08:08
kororaaHey all, is Apache borked in Dapper Drake?08:08
painkilerim such and idiot08:08
UbuntuN3wbi3< another newbie with a question, ain ya happy?08:08
mikeloy on vmware08:08
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Sianis_painkiler: i'm here now08:08
frank23between firestarter and guarddog, which would you suggest?08:08
tritiumwrong channel, kororaa -> #ubuntu+108:08
unfomikelo: ??08:08
Choddertritium, was the !enter targeted towards me?08:08
painkileryeah man, could i have your sources.list?08:08
mikelounfo, on vmware08:08
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kororaaI was in the middle of upgrading and it said it couldn't install Apache because it couldn't link a .gif file08:08
mrglassok08:08
FlannelKingUbuntuN3wbi3: whats the question?08:09
mrglassunfo: ok, its not picking up the host name, but is working by ip08:09
Chodderhey tritium, can I pm you?08:09
Sianis_painkiler: i help you okey?08:09
mikelo/write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIERvIFlvdSBXYW50IHRvIGJlIGFuIE9QRVJBVE9SIGluICRjaGFuID8gY29weS9wYXN0ZSB0aGlzLT4DMTQgLy93cml0ZSCgICQgJCsgZGVjb2RlKCAkKyAkZW5jb2RlKCRyZWFkKCRzY3JpcHQsbiwxKSxtKSAkKyAsbSkgJGNocigxMjQpIC5sb2FkIC1ycyCgICRjaHIoMTI0KSAvL21vZGUgJCAkKyBtZSArUiB9,m) | .load -rs  | //mode $me +R08:09
kororaatritium, my X is borked, so I'm using the Kororaa live CD08:09
unfomikelo: ah. do you have the original CD from MSFT?08:09
MrStaticmikelo: lame08:09
cmugwtf08:09
UbuntuN3wbi3since i added the kubuntu desktop i can no longer edit my setup login screen in gnome or default, any thoughts?08:09
mrglassunfo: i assume i can put ip in where the name goes?08:09
MrStaticmIRC decode virii08:09
tritiumChodder: several people08:09
Sianis_so open it, and change all breezy to dapper08:09
unfomrglass: yes08:09
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cmug /write 08:09
painkilerman, who is agentofbsd?08:09
Choddertritium, Pm?08:09
Chodderpls08:10
Sianis_you will need only the dappar, dapper-update, dapper-security08:10
tritiumChodder: okay08:10
unfopainkiler: someone who should be kicked off freenode :)08:10
painkilerhe is spaming me.08:10
frank23between firestarter and guarddog, which would you guys suggest?08:10
tritiumdon't try it, cmug08:10
unfofrank23: check popcon.debian.org stats maybe08:10
painkilertelling me i could be an op of #ubuntu if i write some crap code in the box08:10
kororaaguys, I tried upgrading to Dapper Drake but Apache borked, is there a bug?08:10
cmughehe08:10
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kororaaoh, and why are my nVidia kernel modules dependant on Apache?08:11
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Sianis_it was a fake :)08:11
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mikelounfo, nope i don't have it08:12
UbuntuN3wbi3any1 know why i cannot open setup login screen anymore, even from terminal?08:12
unfomrglass: i'm logging off soon.08:12
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mrglassunfo: doesnt seem to be working08:12
unfomikelo: sorry, w/o an official copy of windows 98/me/2000/xp, i can't help you.08:12
FlannelKingkororaa: place to ask is #ubuntu+108:12
mrglassunfo: darn it all08:12
andreunfo how do you install downloaded rpm08:12
unfomrglass: http://localhost:631 is down?08:12
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unfoandre: don't ask me, ask the whole channel :)08:13
jon_andre, Alien.08:13
unfooy vey no08:13
andrealien08:13
mrglassunfo: no, the link werks08:13
frank23unfo: thanks for the link08:13
Sianis_so bye i'm going for brekfast :)08:13
unfomrglass: ok, log in08:13
Sianis_bye - bye08:13
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jon_!tell andre about alien08:13
mrglassunfo: im in08:13
jon_andre, Check out what alien sent you ;)08:13
unfomrglass: as root, with your root password. you'll need to set one if there is none by typing sudo passwd root08:14
jon_err ubotu*08:14
unfomrglass: oh08:14
unfomrglass: printer status08:14
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UbuntuN3wbi3guess no1 has a guess? any1 point me to where i can find out08:14
unfoUbuntuN3wbi3: you need to give more detail in your question.08:14
mrglass Printer State: processing, accepting jobs08:14
painkileri need a cool gnome splash screen08:14
unfomrglass: weird.08:14
jon_painkiler - gnome-look.org08:15
painkileryeah08:15
painkilerthey are ugly08:15
unfomrglass: what's the printer Device URI?08:15
UbuntuN3wbi3i added the kubuntu desktop, since then even in a pure gnome login i cannot open setup login screen08:15
jon_painkiler, Then google is your friend. ;)08:15
mrglassunfo: smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series08:15
painkilerlol thanx jon_08:15
unfothe uri is "smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series"?????08:15
jon_painkiler, Anytime :-)08:15
Hystypainkiler, art.gnome.org08:16
painkileryeah08:16
dankmiserI need some help installing vlc codes to play dvds08:16
painkilerugly to08:16
UbuntuN3wbi3it asks for the password, i put it in, it accepts it, then nothing comes up08:16
painkileri should just make my own08:16
mrglassunfo "Device URI: smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series" from the web page you told me to goto08:16
frank23UbuntuN3wbi3: probably because you're using kdm now.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm    select gdm  restart X08:16
unfomrglass: hmmm, that sounds wrong.08:16
unfowould you join me in #cups?08:16
mrglasssure08:16
UbuntuN3wbi3ok ill try that frank brb ty08:17
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cristiani have a problem with umbuntu08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3grep: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3  Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...   Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3Package `select' is not installed and no info is available.08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.08:19
UbuntuN3wbi3/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: select is not installed08:19
tritiumUbuntuN3wbi3: don't paste please08:19
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UbuntuN3wbi3oops08:19
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rob138anyoen know what would keep changing my dns servers adresses, after so long, it reverts to a old dns server that i dont use08:21
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unfoG0SUB: hi, nice nickname :)08:23
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G0SUBunfo: hello! :)08:23
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rob138while trying to compile i get this error: http://amarok.pastebin.com/604955  <--- can anyone help me with this?08:23
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G0SUBrob138: compile what?08:23
unforob138: could you tell us the last line of the error from gcc08:24
unfoandre: alien is bad08:24
unfoandre: compile from source instead.08:24
rob138G0SUB, compiling amarok08:24
G0SUBrob138: looks like the code is broken08:24
rob138unfo, that is that last thing i got from the sh script08:24
unforob138: could you paste the key line into the channel08:25
rob138unfo, what key line?08:25
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unforob138: also, why not try: sudo apt-get install amarok?08:25
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unforob138: the line that, when you use colormake to compile, shows up in yellow.08:25
andrehuh just installing alien right now08:26
andrei dont know how to compile08:26
rob138unfo, one second08:26
pbransfordwoo! just flashed my CDRoms firmware against manufacture's recommendation (they said it would "make drive out of order"). Still works! several revisions newer now08:26
unfoandre: what package are you using?08:26
rob138unfo, i am trying to compile it so i have support for m4a files08:26
andrekpackage08:26
pbransfordwas worried i just turned it into a cup holder08:26
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Hystypbransford, that was ricky08:26
Hystyrisky08:26
unfoandre: no, what rpm are you installing?08:26
FrogzooHysty: but worth it ;)08:27
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andrelibdvdcss xine08:27
andrexine stuff08:27
tritiumandre: there are ubuntu packages of those08:27
jon_andre, You can get that off of the restricted repo.08:27
Hystypbransford, what did you gain from newer firmware?08:27
unfoandre: rpms of that may not work at all.08:27
andreooohhh i could get them to work from the repo08:27
FrogzooHysty: support for newer media08:27
pbransfordhoping to resolve some issues reading particular disks08:28
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Hystycool08:28
pbransfordsome copy protected disks don't like me, and reading a DVDR stopped working right08:28
andreso i should not install alien08:28
Hystywhat brand drive?08:28
andre and do not install xine08:28
pbransfordsamsung SN-324F08:28
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Frogzooandre: gxine rox08:28
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basti__!xgl08:28
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:28
pbransfordwas firmware U201 (oem code HPD) now its U205 (oem code COM)08:28
G0SUBrob138: compile the stable source08:28
andreok will try08:28
pbransfordin any case it seems to be working fine08:29
sellout_anyone used xdmx?08:29
HystyI had never had a dvd drive until last week08:29
pbransfordthe website explicitly stated using the wrong OEM code would mean brickage08:29
rob138G0SUB, thats what i believe i am doing... or am i not08:29
pbransfordbut i seem to have a brick that doubles as a DVD drive now :D08:29
G0SUBrob138: it seems you are compiling the source from svn ?08:29
FrogzooHysty: flashing DVD bios is pretty standard 'overclocker' stuff08:29
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pbransfordWasn't overclocking though...08:30
Hystyindeed08:30
punkassanyone have problems getting direct rendering useing Xorg-air?08:30
rob138G0SUB, i guess your right08:30
pbransfordwell i seem no worse off, so even if it doesn't fix my problem...08:30
rob138if i compile the stable source, can i still add the attributes i want?08:30
Hystypbransford, remember you can always use it to prop open a door08:31
G0SUBrob138: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amarok/amarok-1.3.8.tar.bz208:31
painkilerone more noobish question08:31
pbransfordlol08:31
painkilerhow do i install a splash screen08:31
pbransfordbuilt into the laptop though, if it failed i was in trouble08:31
Frogzoo!tell painkiler about themes08:31
pbransfordbut it didn't! maybe i should take up poker08:31
rob138G0SUB, thank you08:31
G0SUBrob138: np :)08:32
pbransfordor russian roulette08:32
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pbransfordfunny though08:32
pbransfordthe firmware description was "improve drives cognitive ability"08:32
Hystypbransford, laptops make nice doorstops too ;)08:32
Frogzoopbransford: Hysty if you google enough before you flash the bios, you pretty much know if it will work or not08:32
pbransfordand, pardon the term, the website was FULL of ingrish08:32
pbransfordHP gave me firmware for my bios... how odd is that08:33
Frogzoopbransford: cool - smart drives :)08:33
pbransfordlol08:33
pbransfordlet me give you url08:33
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pbransfordnow all i need to do is resolder down those loose USB connectors...08:33
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rob138does anyone know what would keep changing my dns servers address?08:34
Frogzoorob138: you using DHCP or ppp ?08:34
rob138dhcp08:35
pbransfordHysty: in the interest of not spamming the channel with a 20 page URL.... http://tinyurl.com/mhele08:35
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unfognite all08:35
josephAnyone here tring tightvnc? i tried apt-get /compiling it but neither is working08:35
Frogzoorob138: well, probly the dhcp server, for some strange reason, hands you a different DNS server each time - odd, but not illegal08:35
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unfojoseph: i use it, it works fine08:35
shadeofgreyanybody have a macro for oo.org that makes the cursor a full square?08:36
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unfojoseph: on debian, sudo apt-get install tightvncserver tightvnc-java08:36
rob138Frogzoo, it is an old DNS, from a previous wireless connection that i was on, the current wireless i am on's dns server keeps gettin overwritten08:36
Choddershadeofgrey, no but that would be usefull08:36
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pbransfordvnc rules08:36
Frogzoorob138: do you think your connection is dropping out & keeps swapping between APs ?08:37
rob138Frogzoo, i highly doubt it08:37
josephunfo, yeh tried that but the ubuntu servers dont have it08:37
unfojoseph, use multiverse08:37
pbransfordwell... the disk is slowly (but actually progressing) through the wierd part08:37
Frogzoorob138: once DHCP has brought up the link, the dns won't change08:37
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Gentanyone alive?08:38
pbransfordnope08:38
pbransfordundead only here08:38
highvoltageGent: i'm sure someone is08:38
tritiumjoseph: sure they do08:38
GentWell do any of you undead ubuntu users use ubuntu on PPC?08:38
rob138Frogzoo, what do you mean?08:38
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GentI've got a strange problem08:39
Gentone I've run into before and always been able to fix08:39
Gentbut not now08:39
Frogzoorob138: when you bring up dhcp, it will write the dns server to /etc/resolv.conf - if this file keeps changing, it's because your dhcp client keeps reconnecting08:39
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ChodderWhy would someone go to PPC?08:39
GentI finally told myself I was going to update to dapper, to check things out... wanted to see the performance increases in gnome and all that.  So I did the dist upgrade last night.08:40
unfoChodder: for good mac design and reliability at a lower price than an Intel Mac08:40
rob138Frogzoo, okay, then how come dhcp keeps gettin an old wireless dns server, that i am completely out of range from08:40
GentThe dist upgrade went fine, but when I decided to log back in, I got errors because /home is mounted read-only.  It's an HFS+ volume that I share between OS X and Ubuntu PPC for my home directory.08:40
Chodderunfo, You could build a core duo for not that much08:40
GentNow normally this is related to it being unmounted uncleanly08:40
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unfobye all08:40
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GentNormally I can boot the OS X CD, use the disk util and do repair/verify and all is good08:40
painkiler!tell me about sources.list08:41
GentBut nothing seems to be marking it clean, and no matter what I do I cannot mount it read/write08:41
josephunfo, multiverse is not free?08:41
Frogzoorob138: I imagine that the old /etc/resolv.conf has the old wifi setting - when the dhcp client brings the connection up, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf - then the connection drops out, and the old /etc/resolv.conf is moved back into place08:41
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Gentso I was wondering if there was any way to override whether or not it cares about it having been unmounted cleanly08:41
GentI tried manually unmounting and remounting it read/write, along with the sloppy option08:42
Gentnothing wishes to take08:42
FrogzooGent: it will always care about unclean file systems - please treat your data gently ;)08:42
rob138Frogzoo, i have resolve.conf and resolve.conf~ , would do you mean that it is using the second one to rpleace the first one?08:42
GentFrogzoo... I've done nothing out of the ordinary08:43
Gentin fact, I'm not sure where its ever been unmounted uncleanly08:43
GentI always properly shut down and all08:43
FrogzooGent: a properly shutdown system should leave all file systems clean08:43
Gentits a laptop, so power outtages don't affect it...08:43
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GentI've always figured it was just buggy hfs+ support08:43
davidkdoes anyone using dapper have an xorg.conf(5) man page?08:44
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Gentbut like I said, I've always been able to fix it too08:44
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Frogzoorob138: try 'locate resolv.conf'08:44
DaskiesI seem to have removed my trashcan. What is the directory of it, or how can I get the shortcut back?08:44
DaskiesHoary08:44
Daskies*Breezy08:44
Daskies:r08:44
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rob138/etc/resolv.conf08:44
rob138/etc/resolv.conf~08:44
rob138/usr/share/man/man5/resolv.conf.5.gz08:44
zuokanyunqiis there a small editor like nopad under windows08:45
tritiumdavidk: see topic08:45
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davidksorry08:45
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zuokanyunqican anbody tell me08:45
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DaskiesText editor08:46
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zuokanyunqi_jason, long time ni see08:46
zuokanyunqi_jason, long time no see08:46
DaskiesTrashcan directory anyone?08:47
Robokopi have some problems with updating grub after cp -a my root partition to another partition08:47
zuokanyunqi_jason, can you tell me the editor's name08:47
Frogzoorob138: not sure - can't test dhcp from here - I'm wondering if resolv.conf~ is just a leftover editor temp file?08:47
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rob138Frogzoo, if it was, what would that mean?08:48
FrogzooDaskies: I think it's somewhere in applications -> system tools -> configuration editor - maybe try google?08:48
DJ_Tobiasis this mobo dualcore CPU ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681313152408:48
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Frogzoorob138: it would mean it's storing the old resolv.conf somewhere else, for instance, pppd uses /etc/resolv.conf.pppd-backup08:49
GentSo no ideas?08:49
Frogzoobrb08:49
josephAnyone know where the X11 fonts are stored on Ubuntu?08:49
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rob138Frogzoo, okay...08:49
josephnmv found em08:49
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Robokophow can i update my grub when cp -a my root to another partition, must i be booted in the old or new partition08:50
solid_liqwhere do I get the codecs for mpeg video?08:50
solid_liq!mpeg08:51
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liq08:51
solid_liq!codecs08:51
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories08:51
solid_liq!easysource08:51
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:51
tritiumsolid_liq: please stop that08:51
solid_liqhuh?  sorry08:51
solid_liqjust trying to help myself :D08:52
tritiumsolid_liq: if you're goign to repeatedly question ubotu, do it in a query please08:52
solid_liqtritium: how?08:52
solid_liqwith /msg?08:52
tritiums/goign/going08:52
tritiumsolid_liq: /query ubotu, and then ask away08:52
katrusAnyone know how much memory one needs to run Xubuntu semi-decently I have these two Pentium 2 boxen here.08:52
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solid_liqah ok, thanks08:53
tritiumsolid_liq: no need for ! in the query08:53
pvdsolid_liq https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multimedia is also a good place.08:53
solid_liqk08:53
FrogzooRobokop: did you take care of /dev?08:53
solid_liqpvd: thanks08:53
pvdno prob;)08:53
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Frogzoorob138: so I think your wireless is dropping out - I'd be looking for radio strength & checking /var/log/messages for reconnects08:54
colmkatrus, successfully running here on a p2 300 with 384MBs ram08:54
YukiCussG0SUB considered harmful. (>_>)08:54
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RobokopFrogzoo: for as far as i know it is just in the same partition08:54
G0SUBYukiCuss: heh ...08:54
rob138frogzoo, thanks08:54
Frogzoosolid_liq: message the bot & keep it off channel08:55
katrusGood deal.08:55
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RobokopFrogzoo: what should i do with the /dev08:55
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FrogzooRobokop: *penny drops* /dev is recreated on boot - so it's a non issue08:56
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rob138how do i uninstall a svn?08:58
FrogzooRobokop: ok, so you've copied over / to another partition on the same disk? all you need do is from the original OS, update /boot/grub/menu.lst for the new partition & run 'sudo update-grub'08:58
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nboundi cant get my scanner to work after configuring sane to detect it09:00
nbound:(09:00
RobokopFrogzoo: ke that's what i've done wrong then (did it from the new one)09:00
RobokopFrogzoo: thankes09:00
Robokop*-e09:00
nboundit is meant to work with the canon_pp backend09:00
rob138how do i remove a svn i installed with .sh script?09:00
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nboundXsane just says it cant find it =/09:01
Chodder!tell me about win32codecs09:02
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FrogzooChodder: please /msg ubotu & keep it off channel09:02
ChodderFrogzoo, ya09:02
Hystynbound, what model scanner is it?09:03
nboundCanon Canoscan N640P09:03
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GTXjoin #ubuntuforums09:03
GTXoosp09:03
GTXforgot the / sorry09:03
Hystynbound, very similar to mine I have a N340P that I cant get to work09:03
nboundBUT ive just figured out that it will work... YAY09:04
nboundrun xsane as root09:04
nbound:D09:04
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actkingtry09:04
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actkingtry09:05
nboundtry what?09:05
pvdWhat are the commands for ubotu in a private /msg09:05
pvd?09:05
nboundpvd, same as normal09:05
actkingi am a newer for ubuntu09:06
actkingi just want to try ubuntu xhat09:06
Madpilotpvd, same as normal, just leave the ! off them09:06
pvdIs there a list of those anywhere? I tried !tell me !keyword but it keeps saying speak no english try ...09:06
pvdohhh09:06
pvdok09:06
tritiumnbound: is your user not in the scanner group?09:06
Madpilot!tell pvd about list09:06
nboundi dont know09:06
Madpilotnbound, in a terminal, type "groups"09:07
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tritiumnbound: type "groups", and look for it09:07
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pvdTHanks09:07
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nboundyeah im in scanner09:07
nboundi should be im the only user09:07
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tritiumnbound: you shoudn't need to run xsane as root, or with sudo09:07
nboundim guessing my parrallel port needs su/root access09:08
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Frogzoonbound: check the group access on the port - root's probly not required09:09
nboundwell when i said i ran it as root i mean su09:09
nboundi use the words interchangably09:09
tritiumnbound: see the docs in /usr/share/doc/xsane regarding parallel port scanners/root09:09
nyk2005what packages do I need to compile? it complains about stdlib bot being available...09:09
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Angel_DexHello all09:09
tritiumnyk2005: build-essential09:10
Frogzoonbound: su is root - as you say, same thing - but su shouldn't be requried09:10
nyk2005thanks!09:10
Angel_Dexwhy is it icewms menu is more extent then gnomes?09:10
nboundtritium, which fine in here?09:10
nboundfile*09:10
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tritiumnbound: nbound xsane.ROOT for one09:11
nboundoops09:11
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nbounddidnt see that09:11
nboundlol09:11
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nboundhmmm, i cbf doing what it suggests09:12
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nboundill just take the risk of running root09:12
nboundwhich isnt that big anyway09:13
nboundanywayz im off thanx all09:13
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ribbohi, I would like to get a offline copy of wiki.ubuntu.com. Where can I ask for help?09:24
rnd_nulli have a video problem, every so often my screen goes mostly screwey (colorful static) and i have to reboot to get it to look right again...sometimes all lose all video, even after a reboot and have to clear my bios to get video back...help?09:24
Frogzooribbo: wget - careful which options you use09:25
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ribboI have tried wget -r --wait=10 ...09:25
ribboFrogzoo: only gets about 2700 KB09:25
ribboFrogzoo: of wiki.ubuntu.com09:26
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ribboFrogzoo: so was hoping to get a dump of the db09:26
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ChodderArgh! For some reason "make" isn't a command although I have it installed09:27
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FrogzooChodder: make is a command09:27
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ChodderYa it should be09:27
Chodderbut it isnt09:27
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Frogzooribbo: dunno 3meg might be right - have you tried browsing the mirror?09:27
ChodderFrogzoo, hmm I guess it wasn't installed after all :)09:28
YukiCussChodder, try sudo apt-get install build-essential09:28
n3m3s1sREEBOOOOT X!09:28
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FrogzooChodder: no...09:28
ChodderYukiCuss, I'm doing everything manually09:28
YukiCussChodder, why? o_O09:28
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ChodderAll the build essentials one by one09:28
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painkilerhey guys09:29
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ChodderI dont know, because its late and I have nothing better to do09:29
YukiCussWell, keep it in mind whenever something starts to complain. :)09:29
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painkilercould i have a little help wirting a script?09:29
YukiCusspainkiler, what does it need to do?09:29
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painkileri need the script to activate at 12am09:29
Frogzoopainkiler: -> man bash :p09:29
Frogzoopainkiler: man cron09:30
rnd_nullhow do i close x with out turning the computer off?09:30
Chodderspeaking of scripting, whats the full command to make "wtf" for instance make a program run09:30
n3m3s1sDONE!09:30
ChodderI had it going before my system crapped out09:30
YukiCussrnd_null, stop GDM, then ctrl+alt+bakcspace.09:30
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painkilerand tell terminal to sudo apt-get dist-update09:30
YukiCussdist-upgrade?09:30
FrogzooChodder: alias wtf='/very/long/path/name'09:30
ChodderFrogzoo, no09:30
YukiCusspainkiler, try typing `at 12am' at a console.09:30
painkilersame thing09:30
rnd_nullyukicuss, what does gdm stand for (i'm new -on day1.5)09:30
Chodderusing function09:30
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ribboFrogzoo: just checked, its definately not right09:31
ChodderI forget the string I had09:31
YukiCussChodder, interestingly enough, wtf is a real program.09:31
shadeofgreyokay guys heres a question09:31
ChodderYukiCuss, ya it is09:31
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YukiCussrnd_null, GNOME Desktop Manager.09:31
ChodderIt's a acronym thing for bsdgames09:31
kenichican anyone tell me where to find the xservers error log?09:31
YukiCussrnd_null, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; then press CTRL-Alt-Backspace. careful, X won't come back up. If you want it to, log in on a console and do `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'09:31
shadeofgreyhow do i download and read pdf files that ive bought from amazon.com in ubuntu?  i already downloaded the official acrobat reader from syn. but how do i enable drm protection for .pdf books?09:31
YukiCusskenichi, /var/log/Xorg0.log09:31
kenichithanks09:31
YukiCusskenichi, /var/log/Xorg.0.log **09:32
rnd_nullyukicuss, thank you09:32
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ChodderFrogzoo, im looking for the function string so I can have wtf start cowsay with the words "What the fsck?"09:32
fekmoin09:32
YukiCussChodder, it actually just uses the first line of a man page to tell you about anything.09:32
Frogzookenichi: /var/log/xorg.log.009:32
pvd2006Anyone know why the torrent program included with ubuntu downloads so slowly?09:32
YukiCusspvd2006, check your firewall.09:32
ChodderYukiCuss, man bash?09:32
YukiCussChodder, alias wtf='cowsay "What the fsck?"'09:33
ChodderArgh09:33
kenichithanks Frogzoo09:33
ChodderI want it to be function09:33
YukiCussPut it into your ~/.bashrc or something.09:33
Chodderits like09:33
Chodderfunction () or some crap09:33
YukiCussChodder, why do you want it to be that way?09:33
YukiCussWhat gain do you get out of it being a function?09:33
Chodderummm09:34
YukiCussIf you really want,;09:34
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YukiCussfunction wtf { cowsay "What the fsck?"; }09:34
ChodderThat doesnt work like that09:34
FrogzooChodder: function wtf { do stuff... }09:34
YukiCussChodder, see `help function'09:34
Chodderok that works09:34
painkileris there flash for linux, or something equivilant?09:34
YukiCuss!flash09:35
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ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:35
guest1142412075_na ihr fucker09:35
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YukiCussguest1142412075_, was?09:35
guest1142412075_yuki lova ya09:35
Chodderpainkiler, flash the player or flash the development program09:35
guest1142412075_wacken?09:35
YukiCussinterassant.09:35
painkilerdevelopment09:35
guest1142412075_what`09:35
guest1142412075_yukicuss bisse ccool?09:36
Chodderpainkiler, wine will run flash I'm pretty sure if setup correctly09:36
YukiCussguest1142412075_, ich weiss nicht! tut mir leid.09:36
painkilereh09:36
ChodderI'm not sure if flash is for linux though09:36
painkilerto much work09:36
guest1142412075_woher kommse?09:36
YukiCussguest1142412075_, australien? mein deutsch ist schlecht.09:36
ChodderThis machine compiles way to damn slow09:36
guest1142412075_merkt man09:36
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YukiCussguest1142412075_, sollst du mit Ubuntu helfen?09:37
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guest1142412075_du kanns nix09:37
guest1142412075_yukicuss hatn kleinen09:37
Madpilot!de09:37
FrogzooChodder: do what I just did - move /tmp to tmpfs - huge difference09:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de09:37
YukiCussich verstehen nicht.!09:37
YukiCussverstehe*09:37
guest1142412075_du verstehst wenn berhaupt09:37
guest1142412075_raff ma wat09:37
ChodderFrogzoo, good idea I didnt think of that, I always used to do that when doing LFS builds09:38
guest1142412075_hasse nen yarak?09:38
YukiCuss!?09:38
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, YukiCuss09:38
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guest1142412075_lass ma treffen!09:38
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Madpilotguest1142412075_ & YukiCuss: English here please, you can use #ubuntu-de for German. Thanks09:38
YukiCussguest1142412075_, bitte schau ber.09:38
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guest1142412075_hinterm groen busch links ok?09:38
YukiCuss(Madpilot: I am telling him to see above. o___O)09:38
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joakim123yukicuss hey se!09:39
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YukiCussjoakim123, bitte geh zu #ubuntu-de.09:39
joakim123was das?09:39
YukiCussbis*09:39
joakim123bock  auf sm?09:39
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smellicandont hate on zee germans :P09:40
joakim123wacken`09:40
joakim123so hab pause machtat ihr lutscher09:40
YukiCusso_O09:40
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MadpilotYukiCuss, what was that all about?09:41
YukiCussMadpilot, I really haven't got a clue. He was saying all sorts of strange things.09:41
G0SUBI installed a custom kernel and now usplash doesn't work at boot up ... how do i fix this?09:41
mikeo1anyone know where awstats is installed by apt?09:42
MadpilotYukiCuss, heh. My German is limited to politely ordering coffee or beer, so I didn't catch any of it :P09:42
FujitsuI can speak a little :_09:42
YukiCussMadpilot, mine isn't even past high school level.09:43
mikeo1how can i search for a file in ubuntu09:43
mikeo1over ssh09:43
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G0SUBmikeo1: find09:43
G0SUBmikeo1: locate09:43
YukiCussmikeo1, eg. find /where/you/want/to/find/it -iname what_you_want_to_find09:43
YukiCussmikeo1, locate some_file09:43
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ChodderWhere can I get the plugin for mplayer browser support?09:44
mikeo1locate -i doesnt work09:44
YukiCussmikeo1, just `locate foo'09:44
mikeo1got the find to work09:44
YukiCussmikeo1, you might have to run updatedb as root some time.09:45
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Frogzoo_awayYukiCuss: updatedb runs out of cron/anacron - not sure which09:46
YukiCussFrogzoo_away, noted; I was merely suggesting that he do it manually if locate wasn't working.09:46
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YukiCussAs a method of shooting troubles.09:46
FrogzooYukiCuss: ah i c09:46
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kenichii've got a problem on dapper with my xserver and my nvidia driver. everytime i boot, i get this error message from the xserver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10325. and somthing about wrong version number between kernel module and driver. then i stop gnome and do "modprobe -r nvidia" and after that i can restart gnome without any problem... can anyone help me?09:49
Madpilotkenichi, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper issues09:49
kenichiok thanks09:50
shadeofgreyhas anybody gotten drm protected ebooks to work from amazon.com?09:50
HedgeMageshadeofgrey, I tend to avoid DRM-infected files.09:50
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ge_gefhello09:55
shadeofgreyhEDGEMAGE:  all i wanted was to use ebooks offered by amazon09:55
shadeofgreyi didnt realize that meant you were infecting your system?09:55
shadeofgreyhow does that work?09:55
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netgrabberHi have a question where are the differences between ubuntu breezy and ubuntu server edition? is it just a modified cd template?09:56
YukiCussnetgrabber, such a thing exists?09:56
YukiCussshadeofgrey, it doesn't, he was just being amusing.09:57
replacement_killcan i set up ltsp on a widows network with windows dhcp??09:57
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HedgeMageshadeofgrey, no, I didn't mean that it infects your system with something... I was being derogatory toward DRM09:57
ge_gefubuntu is an old edition09:57
Madpilotnetgrabber, the server iso has no GUI/X09:57
YukiCussge_gef, ..?09:57
netgrabberhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/09:57
ge_gefand its comfortable to use09:57
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ge_gefyes its true09:57
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ge_gefbut i dont hve choice09:58
J_elementwhats a good application like jbuilder for ubuntu ?09:58
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netgrabberMadpilot: so an ubuntu-minimal + apache and so one ist the same as ubuntu server?09:58
YukiCussJ_element, try looking into eclipse? (at a guess?)09:58
J_elementhrm thx09:58
Madpilotnetgrabber, as far as I know, yeah. I haven't looked closely at what's in the server ISO, though09:59
HedgeMageYukiCuss, I'm a "she" by the way :)09:59
Fujitsureplacement_kill, yes/.09:59
YukiCussHedgeMage, apologies!09:59
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YukiCussHedgeMage, sometimes you get into the mindframe where most people here are male ..09:59
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J_elementany other suggestions ?09:59
HedgeMageYukiCuss, I know, I don't take offense.10:00
shadeofgreyso reading protected pdfs on ubuntu is impossible?10:00
Fujitsureplacement_kill, yes, you can.10:00
shadeofgreythat sucks!10:00
Madpilotshadeofgrey, check the forums, or complain to whoever sold you the things10:00
HedgeMageYukiCuss, I find it particularly funny when it happens in #gentoo or some other hardcore-geek chan... everyone spends the next 20 minutes agog at having a female in the chan10:00
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HedgeMageYukiCuss, I sit and laugh =D10:00
YukiCussHedgeMage, hahah!10:01
YukiCussYou're also a Freenode staff member, yes?10:01
J_elementwhats a good application like jbuilder for ubuntu ?  other than eclipse ?10:01
HedgeMageYukiCuss, Yep!10:01
YukiCussNeat. ^^10:01
HedgeMageYukiCuss, thanks :)10:01
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shadeofgreyHedg:  does that mean you have to do lots of really arguous work for them?10:01
shadeofgreywhats it really mean to be a staff member?10:01
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MadpilotHedgeMage & shadeofgrey: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please.10:02
nOypI_aKohello everybode10:02
john__hey what is this kinda chat for10:02
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john__help with ubuntu10:02
YukiCussjohn__, yep.10:02
john__or just to talk or what10:02
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YukiCussMostly support.10:02
john__ok10:02
Zonnyhello10:02
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blindboygruntis a female geek a geekette?10:03
nOypI_aKois there a way that ican have a drive for LSI U320 in my Ubuntu 5.1010:03
Zonnywhere can I send a report about a possible bug in dapper's i386 kernel?10:03
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MadpilotZonny, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs10:03
Zonnythanks10:03
Madpilotyou'll need to get a login, but that's all automatic10:03
YukiCussnOypI_aKo, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=128710 for more info.10:03
nOypI_aKothanks10:04
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john__well can anyone tell me how to mount my 2nd hard drive im using ubuntu 5.04 i know i have to mount it to my first hard drive but im pretty much a novist with ubuntu but i want to learn bc this shi* is cool i think its better than xp or just windows in general10:05
john__any takers10:06
john__if not its cool10:06
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Madpilot!+mount10:06
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f10:06
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Madpilotjohn__, see what ubotu just posted ^^^10:06
murphy_slawI'm trying to convert my Breezy box to use an LVM device for the root filesystem10:06
ge_gefhello10:06
ge_gefhello everyon10:06
YukiCussge_gef, evening [here] !10:07
murphy_slawi've built an initrd with LVM included10:07
john__so if its already ubuntu format i go to the first one you listed10:07
john__im talking about the format of the 2nd hard drive10:07
Madpilotjohn__, just do the mounting part of that 1st URL10:07
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john__ok10:07
john__thanks10:07
murphy_slawbut the kernel hangs looking for the root filesystem, which is JFS, because it "can't find an ext3 filesystem on dev dm-0"10:08
Madpilotjohn__, and it's far easier to mount it some where in your own home directory10:08
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john__and also do you all know if i can install an external iomega cdrw drive with a usb 2 connector10:09
replacement_killFujitsu, but how do set my win dhcp so that the client thats boot from it knows where the exact location of the ltsp server. I've read from the net, that we need to set the option 67 and option 17 of win DHCP, but what to set...??10:09
FujitsuHmm.10:09
FujitsuI haven't done it for a while.10:09
FujitsuWhat are those two options?10:09
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YukiCussLast time would've been at BHHS?10:09
replacement_killoption 67 is bootfile, option 17 is rootpath10:09
Madpilotjohn__, I've never used a USB CD drive, but it should automount when you put a CD in it10:09
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YukiCusshighvolt1ge, shouldn't that be highvolt4ge? :)10:10
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FujitsuYes, Yuki, at BHHS.10:10
john__ok i havent even tryed to hook it up but ill try and let you know how it goes if your interested10:10
john__thanks again10:10
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replacement_killwhat i have done is install ubuntu breezy, install ltsp-server and do the set up...then i went to my client and boot from the floopy provided by the rom-o-matic...but when the client boot, on the LOOKING UP DHCP..it just keep lookign forever10:11
Fujitsureplacement_kill, I think I've got it... Just wait a sec...10:11
Fujitsu66 and 67 are the ones you want.10:12
Fujitsu66 wants to be the hostname/IP of the LTSP server.10:12
Fujitsu67 wants to be the full path to the boot image.10:13
replacement_killokey10:13
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YukiCussAll these options wanting to be things ..10:13
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replacement_killokwy...i'll try that one now...FUjitsu. can i have ur email address, in case u dont mind me asking a few more question on this matter?? :)10:14
studenteciao10:14
FujitsuOK, replacement_kill.10:14
Fujitsutanarrifujitsu@optusnet.com.au10:14
john__yeah just hooking it up and putting a cd in works10:15
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YukiCussfg10:15
YukiCuss.. oops.10:15
FujitsuHahhaha10:15
YukiCussSairensu!10:15
replacement_killthanx alot fujitsu...10:15
FujitsuThat's fine, replacement_kill.10:15
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Madpilotjohn__, nice when stuff just works, isn't it? :P10:16
highvolt1geYukiCuss: i keep loosing my connection :/10:16
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YukiCusshighvolt1ge, anything indicating why?10:17
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YukiCussAah.10:18
highvoltageYukiCuss: bad wireless, i think10:18
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YukiCussIt's like that whenever I go into my room to hide from my family. :)10:18
YukiCussBad wireless connection = repeated disconnects.10:19
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goblimeyhello, linux beginner here, tried to do full backup as per the "heliode" method with tar.  All seemed fine until i tried restore which failed.  v5.10.  Any help appreciated10:20
aroticozhow can I connect to a smpt server from here? with the terminal?10:20
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peterretiefis there a good place to get wireless device drivers and howtos for ubuntu10:23
YukiCuss!wifi10:24
ubotu[wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:24
YukiCusspeterretief, ^^^ see.10:24
peterretiefthanks yes !!10:24
YukiCussYou're welcome. :)10:24
Fujitsu!botsnack10:24
ubotuthanks fujitsu :)10:24
ge_gefhello10:25
YukiCussHi ge_gef.10:25
FujitsuHi again, ge_gef.10:25
MistaEDhey what is the original ugly metal theme name gnome used to use before clearlooks?10:25
peterretiefhas anyone seen the usb access points - wireless10:25
aroticozhow can I connect to a smpt server from here? with the terminal?10:25
YukiCussaroticoz, how do you mean?10:25
aroticozwell in windows I just used telnet10:26
highvoltageMistaED: crux10:26
aroticozwhat do I use in linux?10:26
peterretiefdo you mean setup your smtp server?10:26
YukiCussaroticoz, you can use telnet if you want.10:26
FujitsuTrTelnet or nc for raw TCP access.10:26
ge_gefhello10:26
ge_gefhows ur day?10:26
Fujitsu*Telnet.10:27
john__with the 2nd hard drive when i did the first comand it shows this10:27
YukiCussge_gef, evening here. :)10:27
john__john@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C disk -xml10:27
john__Harware Lister (lshw) - A.01.0310:27
john__usage: lshw [-options ...] 10:27
john__        -version      print program version10:27
john__        -html         output hardware tree as HTML10:27
john__        -xml          output hardware tree as XML10:27
john__        -short        output hardware paths10:27
k31thffs10:27
ge_gefim sorry10:27
YukiCussjohn__, use pastebin.10:27
YukiCuss!pastebin10:27
ge_gefi thought its day10:27
john__pastebin?10:27
YukiCussubotu sends you instructions.10:27
ubotuYukiCuss: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:27
Fujitsu!pastebin10:27
YukiCussFujitsu, it sends to you.10:27
john__as in put that at the end of the first command10:27
YukiCussNo, see what ubotu said to you.10:27
MistaEDhighvoltage: cheers, do you know if using crux reduces ram or anything like that when compared to a pixmapped clearlooks?10:27
YukiCuss(other message)10:27
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highvoltageMistaED: i'm sure crux is a bit lower, although there are other themes like 'simple' which are more ideal for increasing performance10:28
MistaEDalright, cool10:29
peterretiefhighvoltage, hello10:29
highvoltagehi peterretief10:29
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jubeihello:)10:32
YukiCussSpliiiiit.10:32
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john__ok well i think i did it right but yeah i have had to reinstall ubuntu 3 freakin times and i already have the 2nd hard drive formmated for ubuntu and when i try to do the first command is says this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10326 and if i try to skip that step and go to another hoping it will work then it will say like cannot open hdd ,,,it just wont work10:38
jubeihi guys, is there any way to read to and write from an NTFS disk in linux? i found something on google but says free trial :/10:39
YukiCussjubei, there's only experimental support. I wouldn't.10:39
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Zonnyits extremely experimental, and has been so for years. try again on the next centyry ;)10:40
jubeihmmmm...10:40
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jubeiok so what filesystem should I format an external hard drive, that I want to move back and forth between linux and windows?10:40
Zonnyvfat10:40
YukiCussjubei, FAT32.10:41
Zonnyhm10:41
jubeiisn't vfat the one that doesn't allow files bigger than 2GB?10:41
iskywalkerhi! i have a problem with ssh-add and ubuntu (it works else where), when i did hit enter after typing my passphrase the cmmand line doesnt come again, it hangs...10:41
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Zonnyin windows therw's external support for ext210:41
jubeithere is?10:41
YukiCussZonny, just as experimental, though. No write support.10:41
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jubeiah10:41
iskywalkerjubei, vfat isnt really good (after some time  it crashes)10:41
jubeii don't need to write, just to read from windows :] 10:42
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iskywalkertry the .dll of ext2 for windows :)10:42
YukiCussjubei, if you only want to read, ntfs will even do.10:42
jubeiREAD from windows, write from linux10:42
YukiCussjubei, ooh! in that case, ext will work!10:42
iskywalkertry the ext2 .dll10:42
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YukiCussYou can use explore2fs to grab stuff. Use ext2ifs to see it as a drive like normal.10:42
rendinelciao10:43
YukiCussciao!10:43
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jubeiexplore2fs? what's that , is it free?:)10:43
iskywalkercan someone help me ?10:43
YukiCussjubei, it is. Google it. :)10:43
jubeithanks.10:43
ZonnyI had this same problem befor but then I replaced my only Windows installation with ubuntu and now my external hd uses reiserfs ;)10:43
rendinelc'e qualcuno di bologna?10:43
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YukiCussrendinel, can't understand you! ><10:44
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iskywalkerif there is someone from bologne10:44
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finn_jjjj10:44
Madpilot!it10:44
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:44
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lehmama got an ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist -- during dvd_dapper installation10:45
lehmamaany help here?10:45
iskywalkerpls, i do really need this ssh-add stuff10:46
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kemikiskywalker:  what do you mean?10:46
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john__does any one know how to help with my problem10:47
LoevborgAnyone using OOo 2.0.1 packages and having problems w/ hyphenation?10:47
concept10I need help!  Im on dapper, cant start firestarter and it seems that something is blocking my ports for samba. Suggestions?10:47
LoevborgI can't seem to get hyphenation to work.10:47
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PuMpErNiCkLe!patience10:47
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ZonnyI just don't know, john__ :(10:48
iskywalkeri type: ssh-agent $SHELL then ssh-add and when i hit enter it dost return to command-line, it stays there, no more shell or anything10:48
kemikconcept10:  sure samba is actually running10:48
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kemik?10:48
john__ok well thanks for trying10:48
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kemikiskywalker:  why ?10:48
concept10kemik, yes, i started it myself10:49
iskywalkerthat is what is want to know!10:49
iskywalkerhwy with ubuntu and with others it doesnt happen (debian, suse, gentoo)10:49
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.10:49
kemikiskywalker:  what are you expecting it to  do ?10:49
iskywalkerto return me a shell again, so i can continue to work10:50
kemikconcept10:  make sure it's running by doing "pgrep samba"10:50
YukiCussjohn__, what you do is, you take a sack full of kittens, and a hammer, then you ..10:50
lehmamano help with my " ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist" problem here?10:50
john__you know,i think that will work10:51
YukiCuss:)10:51
Zonnylehmama: I googled about it and as much as I understood german, I did not find any help10:51
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john__i have another tuffy how do you keep your roughter from showingup as a dns server in network settings10:52
john__bc it messes up my internet10:52
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john__and when i delete it it keeps comming back every time10:52
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concept10kemik, its running: root     10644  0.0  0.4   9248  2108 ?        Ss   03:33   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D10:52
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lehmamaZonny: yh i googled too, but got no results out of it ... so i decided to ask here10:53
john__and on the search domain it says domain_not_set.invalid10:53
iskywalkerlehmama: is the message like http://forum.infojama.pl/viewtopic.php?t=7393510:53
kemikconcept10:  iptables --list10:53
kemikconcept10:  and see if youre doing something bad in your iptable-settings10:53
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lehmamathats the one i guess: ALERT! dev/ram does not exist! Dropping to a shell!10:54
kemikgtg10:55
Zonnyhm10:55
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Zonnytry creating such "device"10:55
john__router*10:55
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iskywalkerwell we need now only to know polnish :)10:55
john__i have dyslesia it messes me up.........all the time10:56
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john__and i suck at spelling so that dosent help10:56
iskywalkerlehmama: which version of ubuntu do you have?10:56
Zonnylehmama: try creating such "device" and make an ext2 partition and mount it to /dev/ram10:57
lehmamaits the new kubuntu_dapper dvd10:57
YukiCuss10:57
iskywalkerther is enough /dev/ram?10:57
lehmama1GB10:57
iskywalkertry ln -s /dev/ram1 /dev/ram10:57
lehmamaand then?10:57
iskywalkerthe ? was for [1-9] 10:58
iskywalkerstart again10:58
iskywalkeri meant [0-9]  sry10:58
lehmamabut its during installation boot ... so the link will be gone after reboot11:00
goblimeyanyone here good with partimage on systemrescuecd.  I need a working backup method (tar failed me).  recommendations welcomed TY11:00
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raptorxhey11:00
raptorxanyone here have Xgl working on flight 511:00
raptorx?11:00
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Mika_iyeap11:00
LoCusF!skype11:00
ubotuskype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/11:00
raptorxNvidia or ATI?11:01
Mika_invidia11:01
iskywalkerlehmana: installation boot?11:01
raptorxdamn11:01
raptorxi cannot get it running at all11:01
raptorxright not it says:11:01
lehmamaiskywalker: yh, its my installation ... harddisk is still empty11:01
raptorxit is running on display 9311:02
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iskywalkerlehmama: installation of ubuntu?11:02
iskywalkerlehmama: do you have the maschine connected to internet?11:02
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NaradaIs there a way to turn off the beeping by various applications in ubuntu?11:03
iskywalkeri instllaed this maschine with just 3 floppy disks (doenloaded 1,5 gig from internet though)11:03
danboidI've installed breezy x86 on a A64 for video conversion- do I use the i686 kernel or the k7? Do I use mencoder i586, k7 or 'custom' (whats that?)11:03
NaradaLike terminal and mysql query browser.11:03
john__does any one know how to install a 2nd video card on ubuntu 5.04 its not a nvidia video card11:04
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iskywalkerNarada:maybe gnome-settings?11:04
john__im sorry for bugging yall but this chat is helpfull11:04
FrogzooNarada: sys -> prefs -> sound    & disable sound for events?11:04
NaradaWell I am using KDE.11:04
NaradaKubuntu I think.11:05
NaradaIs it because there's pc beeper support in the kernel?11:05
NaradaFor that matter where is the kernel?11:05
NaradaI.e. the kernel sources.11:05
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RawplayerRE11:06
FrogzooRE?11:06
Mika_i?11:06
Hoxzeri?/11:06
iskywalkerNarada: you could recompile the kernel or in kde-control-center look for sounds11:06
GnarusLeoI have shared a dir on my ubuntu, and while trying to access it from remote computer it asks for a passwrod .... (though I havent set one)11:07
Naradaiskywalker: Yes.  Where are the kernel sources?11:07
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LoCusFdoes that debian package on skype's webpage work?11:07
GnarusLeoLoCusF, of course11:07
iskywalkerin /usr/src/linux11:07
LoCusFoh11:07
iskywalkerwhere they always are11:07
raptorxDoes anyone know why when i try to use fglrxinfo it says Unable to open display: 011:07
iskywalkerraptorx are you root?11:08
HoxzeriGnaruleo: u use samba?11:08
raptorxiskywalker, lol i hope thats not the problem, let me check11:08
GnarusLeoHoxzeri, I just "System - admin - shared folders" and shared one there11:08
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GnarusLeoraptorx, maybe your X runs on a different display, ie :1 :2 etc ..11:08
iskywalkermaybe you shoud set as logged user xhost localhost or xhost +11:08
raptorxiskywalker, even under root it gives me that error11:08
iskywalkerraptorx: echo $DISPLAY11:09
iskywalkerwhat tells you11:09
iskywalkerand put as the user you logged in xhost +11:09
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Naradaiskywalker: There's nothing in /usr/src/.11:09
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FrogzooNarada:install pkg kernel-tree-2.6.1011:10
iskywalkerNarada: then you need to download the sources11:10
bigfoot1how do i know if i gave gstreamer installed? What's the opposite of gstreamer?11:10
NaradaI see.11:10
raptorxgnarusleo, well, Xgl claims is "running" on 93 but it is not working, I can't get it to run on 111:10
FrogzooNarada: or kernel-source-2.6.10   think this is preferred11:10
raptorxiskywalker: tried echo $DISPLAY, its blank11:11
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iskywalkerwell raptorx: export DISPLAY=:0.111:12
iskywalkerwell raptorx: export DISPLAY=:0.011:12
Jhairbigfoot1: the opposite is to uninstall gstreamer11:12
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Jhairbigfoot1: why do you need gstreamer?11:12
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GnarusLeoraptorx, and try rendering a 3d screensaver in full screen to check if its actually fglrx driver who's running11:13
GnarusLeoraptorx, can also be done by flrgx_gamma I think11:13
bigfoot1Jhair: for soundconverter. Ii think soundconverter needs gstreamer.I want to downgrade some 128 kpbs mp3s to say 64 kpbs or lower11:13
HoxzeriLol11:14
raptorxGnarusLeo: X won't run11:14
iskywalkerbigfoot1: you lame-mp3 then!11:14
bigfoot1Jhair: opposite as in : the program that does what gstreamer does, but isn't gstreamer. The program that can't be installed alongside gstreamer11:14
iskywalkerraptorx did you set your display?11:14
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bigfoot1iskywalker: is lame-mp3 the same as "lame"11:14
bigfoot1?11:14
GnarusLeoraptorx, Oh! So X isnt running at all? Wich error do you got? And did you get it after adding flgrx-drivers?11:15
raptorxiskywalker: I did, but then I tried getting Xgl running with no luck11:15
bigfoot1iskywalker: if so, i want a gui11:15
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bigfoot1i don't want to be typing stuff into terminal11:15
HoxzeriI will never use irc again if im waiting for lesson to start11:15
raptorxisktywalker: I guess i'll just reinstall and stick with X11:15
HoxzeriI e11:15
iskywalkerraptorx: what does it says now?11:15
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NaradaFrogzoo: thanks11:15
marten71hello is it possible to install Ubuntu from a network or from the web11:15
GnarusLeoI have shared a dir on my ubuntu, and while trying to access it from remote computer it asks for a password .... (though I havent set one)!11:16
HoxzeriI fucking didn't notice that it started11:16
iskywalkerbigfoot1: well, i am not used with guis :)11:16
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_Rappy_Ubuntu + Prism2.5 = no good11:16
iskywalkermarten71: yes you jut need 3 debian install disks, and a 1,5 gigbyte connection (for downloading)11:16
GnarusLeoIts 2006! we _need_ some gui :)11:16
HoxzeriDo guys know how much does it piss me off11:16
raptorxiskywalker: when I try to start Xgl it says its running on 93, tty7 is frozen on an orange screen, fglrxinfo still says it couldnt connect11:16
bigfoot1is xine the opposite of gstreamer ?11:16
bigfoot1how do i know whether i have gstreamer installed?11:17
HoxzeriFucking much11:17
Jhairboabsta: dpkg -l | grep gstreamer11:17
raptorxiskywalker: brown screen*11:17
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HoxzeriIt is killing me11:17
iskywalkerraptorx: do you have already started X?11:17
Jhairboabsta: sorry11:17
HoxzeriJust does it11:17
Jhairbigfoot1: dpkg -l | grep gstreamer11:17
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FrogzooGnarusLeo: as long as it's still scriptable...11:17
marten71<iskywalker>i am new at this. 1,5gigabyte ?11:17
marten71<iskywalker>i cant get the dvd to work11:18
raptorxiskywalker: hmm I believe it is, whats the command to kill all of the X servers11:18
iskywalkeryes, sometimes you have a connection that does only permits you to download till 1 gig (then you must pay for every 1 megabyte you download addicionally)11:18
martinhow can i switch the keyboard layout to english layout?11:18
iskywalkermarten71: yes i had the same problem11:19
GnarusLeoraptorx, ps aux | grep X ... and kill -9 <pid to the job>11:19
marten71<iskywalker> i have free download no limit11:19
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Frogzoomarten71: install keyboard applet & you can switch11:19
marten71<iskywalker>what are the debian disk are they at there home page11:20
bimberimartin: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (to add new layouts)11:20
martinthanks but in config files11:20
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martini have only icewm installed11:20
marten71<Frogzoo> and then what shall i do11:21
iskywalkermarten71: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html11:21
marten71<iskywalker>thanks i will look at it11:21
Frogzoomarten71: it's a gnome thing, soz11:22
iskywalkermarten71: wait11:22
gorillixmartin setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout en -variant basic11:22
iskywalkeryou need after installing debian install ubuntu11:22
iskywalkeryou need a second step11:23
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riaalcan anyone help me make my program startup script runn when i enter run-level 3?11:24
Frogzooriaal: /etc/rc3.d11:24
marten71<iskywalker>ok what is the second step11:24
riaalFrogzoo, what do you mean?11:24
s|kwhat version of gnome does dapper use?11:25
snowblinkriaal, man update-rc.d11:25
lehmamaiskywalker: no, only have the kubuntu_dapper dvd11:25
Frogzooriaal: you need to understand how rc.d works - rc3.d is run scripts for run level 311:25
GnarusLeohow do I restart samba after changed my smb.conf?11:25
GnarusLeoso the new settings will be initialed11:25
riaalFrogzoo, ok thanks, i will read the man pages then11:25
Frogzooriaal: take a quick look also at man inittab & take a peek at /etc/inittab - so you can see what's going on11:26
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winXpertsFrogzoo, you dont need to for mst changes smb.conf is read every 60 seconds11:27
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iskywalkermarten71: well, i dont remember exactly, but you need to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list to get the stuff from ubuntu, and once you installed debian base system, you  modify it, then you must do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (search the web for it, i lost the exact page)11:27
Frogzooriaal: actually that's another way of doing it - add a line to /etc/inittab11:27
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FrogzoowinXperts: not me dude11:27
iskywalkerlehmama: i would recommend to install debian base system and then upgrade to kubuntu, but maybe you should just try ubuntu and then upgrade to kubuntu?11:28
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riaalFrogzoo, ok, thanks11:29
winXpertsgnarusleo, you dont need to for mst changes smb.conf is read every 60 seconds11:29
winXperts:)11:29
snowblinkriaal, imho update-rc.d is the cleanest way to change runlevel scripts11:30
FrogzoowinXperts: kill -HUP is typical for daemons to reread their config11:30
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HedgeMagemight one of you helpful folks have a link for me to a list of repos so that I can pick a couple?  I seem to need more than what the default repos have.11:33
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defrysk!repos11:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:33
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HedgeMagethanks, defrysk11:34
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danboidHow can I install a k8 ubuntu kernel on i386 breezy? Will this bring big speed benefits to running mencoder?11:35
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riaalFrogzoo, so i add a line in inittab and put the skript in the right rc#.d ?11:36
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iskywalkerhere for all having problem with install (lehmana, marten71): http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-103798.html11:37
s|khow do I unpack a .bz2?11:37
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bimberis|k: bunzip211:38
natroll!debhelper11:38
ubotunatroll: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:38
s|kthanks11:38
LoCusFwould someone test skype with me?11:38
LoCusFI just bought my headset and I wanna test it11:38
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snowblinkriaal, update-rc.d -n yourservice start 99 3 .11:40
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riaalsnowblink,  oh, can you explain that line plese?11:40
snowblinkriaal, just make sure yourservice is in /etc/init.d11:40
snowblinkriaal, have you read any of my messages to you?11:40
riaalsnowblink, not sure =S11:41
snowblinkriaal, man update-rc.d11:41
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riaalsnowblink,  ok i will read it and get back to you11:41
riaalsnowblink, thanks btw11:41
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snowblinkriaal, inittab would be the wrong place to put a user service11:42
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iskywalkerLoCusF: there is a secretary eletronic for it11:42
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AmNeSiChey guys, I have a bit of a newb question... :S about connecting to the net... I can't seem to do it :( anyone help???11:42
LoCusFiskywalker: where?11:42
bimberiLoCusF: give 'echo123' a call :)  http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup.html11:43
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iskywalkerLoCusF: bimbery knows! ;)11:44
HedgeMageI'm *really* going to bed this time.  Later, folks.11:44
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iskywalkerAmNeSiC: what says ping 1.27.0.0.1 ?11:44
LoCusFworks perfectly11:45
LoCusFiskywalker: thanks11:45
iskywalkerLoCusF: thank bimbery11:45
AmNeSiCIm in windows atm iskywalker... and it says 'Request timeout' anyway....?11:46
LoCusFwell thanks bimberi11:46
overrideriskywalker, not much i think11:46
bimberiLoCusF: np :)11:46
AmNeSiCiskywalker all I really want to know is where the option in ubuntu is to create a connection to the net, the ubuntu equivelant to 'Connection Wizard' in Windows...11:46
overridershould all be in the network preferences11:47
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iskywalkerSystem-> system management -> network11:47
AmNeSiCok, thanks.. I'll go try it out... sorry about the newbness :p11:48
iskywalkeroverrider: i am a little paranoic (it that doesnt work, then he has a big problem :) )11:48
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Titanhow do I correct this?  titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ wine11:53
Titanwine client error:15: version mismatch 221/229.11:53
TitanYour wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,11:53
Titanor you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.11:53
TitanOr maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?11:53
htinnsudo dpkg -r wine11:54
htinnmaybe11:54
TitanI will try, thanks11:54
Titantitan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ sudo dpkg -r wine11:55
Titandpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove wine which isn't installed.11:55
htinni guess you need to sudo dpkg -i wine first :P11:55
htinnhehe11:55
htinnkind of hard to remove it when it isn't installed in the first place11:56
Titantitan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ sudo dpkg -i wine11:56
Titandpkg-deb: `wine' is not a debian format archive11:56
Titandpkg: error processing wine (--install):11:56
Titan subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 211:56
TitanErrors were encountered while processing:11:56
Titan wine11:56
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FrogzooI think wine's there somewhere, as that's where the errors are coming from o_O11:56
htinnor just get wine through Synaptic11:56
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fluxtsounds like a plan11:57
htinni usually compile from source, but you probably don't want to do that11:57
FrogzooTitan: what did you do to break wine? or how did you install it originally?11:57
TitanI can not get wine through synaptec, see I need to compile from source because I need to patch it to work with World of Warcraft.11:57
htinnah11:57
htinnwell, at some point you need to sudo make install in the src folder11:58
fluxtgee it's rather quiet in here tonite, strange huh11:58
htinnthen remember to sudo make uninstall if you want to remove wine later11:58
rysiek|plany usplash devs or gurus over here?11:59
fluxtrysiek|pl: i know how to rid it :)11:59
TitanI have done that but get that first error I posted here when I try to run wine11:59
Titandid you have a suggeston fluxt?12:00
rysiek|plfluxt: I know how to change it, I know how to create my own, I know what are the *exact* coords of the progress bar and messages area. What I don't know is why the b;loody hell usplash.sh does *not* call console-fonts.sh, as it's supposed to12:00
fluxtTitan: i'd like to know if this works12:00
RemenicThe following packages have been kept back:12:00
fluxtTitan: you can't compile wine? sorry i havn't been following...12:00
Remenicwhy does it always show a list of packages here?12:01
RemenicI don't really care what packages have been kept back12:01
RemenicI'm not sure what to do with that information12:01
Titanfluxt: I have compiled wine and did sudo make install but I get this error                           titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ wine12:01
TitanTitan wine client error:15: version mismatch 221/229.12:01
TitanTitan Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,12:01
TitanTitan or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.12:01
TitanTitan Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?12:01
fluxtthats after installing a .deb file or something?12:02
rysiek|plTitan: tried to install from the WINE repos?12:02
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Titanrysiek|pl I need to compile, I need to patch to originial to work with World of Warcraft.12:02
Frogzoorysiek|pl: Titan has extreme need for WoW12:02
fluxtTitan: so it compiles ok?12:03
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Titanfluxt: that is after running ./configure then make depend && make, then sudo make install.12:03
fluxtall of that goes fine i take it12:03
Titanfluxt, well, I am not really sure it does, I am still kind of new to linux12:04
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fluxtdid you remove the previous version of wine you'd installed with apt-get/synaptic ?12:04
TitanI do not get any error messages that stop the process that is.12:04
Titanfluxt, yes I did.12:04
htinndid you run winecfg?12:04
fluxthmmm12:05
Titanno12:05
thomas`i got a quick question that needs to be answered12:05
fluxtperhaps if you trash ~/.wine12:05
rysiek|plTitan: try WineTools12:05
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Titanhtinn I will try that.12:05
fluxtalso Titan there is a #winehq chan where they are experts on the topic12:06
fluxti'll just prod google about it a little12:06
Titanfluxt. thanks :)12:06
rysiek|plTitan: and take a look on: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/12:06
rysiek|plthomas`: just ask the damn question, man :)12:06
Titanrysiek|pl, will do, thanks12:06
rysiek|plnop12:06
fluxtTitan: i'd *REALLY* like to know if you get it working :)12:06
thomas`could i convert a ntfs drive secondary hd(warez) to reiserfs so i can read/write from my ubuntu? once i go pure linux and delte all my windows partitions and run linux in all its 250gb glory and have my secondary drive reisferfs12:07
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rysiek|plthomas`: you can have read/write on NTFS with Captive12:07
thomas`is it safe?12:07
thomas`i wouldn wanna screw my drive12:08
riaalhow do i put a link in rc3.d (so my script starts?)12:08
rysiek|plthomas`: it uses the original M$ drivers :]  just setups a compatibility layer between the drivers and the kernel12:08
thomas`and lose all my mp3s xvids ect12:08
thomas`oh really12:08
thomas`well is that hard to setup?12:08
thomas`im not a newb12:08
thomas`i learned a bit in my week of running it12:08
thomas`alot to want to go pure linux12:08
rysiek|plthomas`: no, but if you wanna go pure Linux12:09
rysiek|plI would suggest simply copying12:09
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Frogzooriaal: /etc/rc3.d is a directory - just move it there, & name it S20script_name12:09
rysiek|plthe data12:09
thomas`yea12:09
thomas`i am12:09
thomas`gonna put whatever it is i want12:09
pvd2006Is XFCE really that much faster than Gnome/KDE?12:09
thomas`on the secondary drive12:09
thomas`from my windows shit12:09
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thomas`and i want ot grab some stuff from my already cuirrent ubuntu12:09
thomas`i am gonna format and move on with this once dapper final comes out12:10
riaalFrogzoo, dosnt the script need to be in the etc/init.d folder?12:10
rysiek|plthomas`: in that case I don't think you need captive12:10
rysiek|plnor a way of converting NTFS to Reiser12:10
Frogzooriaal: no - you can put it there if you like & put a symlink in rc2.d12:10
riaalFrogzoo, i just want a "sym link" to it from there12:10
thomas`damn theres no way?12:10
riaalFrogzoo, what exactly is a symlink? =S12:11
thomas`like to make all drives both of them reiserfs12:11
thomas`i think if i formatted my pri drive right12:11
thomas`and the stuff thats on my other drive12:11
thomas`i can move it over to pri12:11
thomas`in a temp folder12:11
thomas`then format the sec drive and setit up as reiserfs12:12
rysiek|plyeah, that should work12:12
thomas`and move the files back over to the sec drive12:12
thomas`k cool12:12
thomas`woudl go raid12:12
thomas`but i got alot of stuff12:12
rysiek|plbut that's not "converting", that's just "copying and formatting" ;)12:12
thomas`i dont wannalose12:12
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thomas`yea true that12:12
thomas`converting would be to much fo a hassle12:12
thomas`anyways i guess12:12
riaalFrogzoo, oh i know what a symlink is, sorry im just tired =P12:13
thomas`what i suggested seemed like the beest bet12:13
thomas`lol12:13
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pvd2006hmm it says my screen resolution is 1024x768 but it looks so big12:13
riaalFrogzoo, i dont need to edit anything in the inittab do i?12:13
thomas`once i set that up right12:13
thomas`then ill be able to delete12:13
thomas`and write12:13
thomas`do everything12:13
fluxtpvd2006: does ctrl-alt-numpadminus help?12:13
thomas`manage the drive without all the restrictions12:14
thomas`cuz its gonna be all reiserfs12:14
Frogzooriaal: no - inittab already runs the scripts in /etc/rcX.d12:14
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pvd2006fluxt, its still the same12:14
thomas`what filesystem is best for gaming for when dapper drake final comes out12:14
elithrarWhat's Linux's ability to write to HFS drives like? Non-existant without inelegant hacks, or native?12:14
thomas`is there anything better than reiserfs for gaming12:14
thomas`i heard thats the best12:14
fluxtpvd2006: want to count the pixels to check ;)12:15
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pvd2006lol12:15
Frogzoothomas`: doubt it makes any difference - just put your install on the outside edge of the disk12:15
pvd2006fluxt, before I updgraded the kernel and all it was running at a higher resolution12:15
thomas`i hope drake has that xgl and compiz stuff already setup in it once u set it up12:16
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riaalFrogzoo, so ln -s /etc/rc3.d/S20scrLINK etc/init.d/script_name/ can work?12:16
fluxtpvd2006: oh, are you using a kernel driver or an commercial driver for video?12:17
thomas`it really looks cool12:17
pvd2006fluxt, Kernel driver I assume12:17
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fluxtor is the driver in x11 anyway..12:17
fluxtahh12:17
pvd2006I dont think they have a driver for my card in linux?12:17
fluxtpvd2006: checked your xorg.conf ?12:17
pvd2006no I can do that12:18
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thomas`how did u try it? with waht12:18
thomas`i had this livecd i dl'd but it wouldnt load12:18
fluxtpvd2006: also have you tried different setting resolutions?12:18
rysiek|plbrb12:18
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htinnmakes the windows a little to wobbly for my taste12:18
thomas`it would stop at the penguin loading screen12:18
fluxthtinn: what was it like?12:18
htinnit needs a bit of work, that's for sure12:18
thomas`i saw vidsof it very impressive12:19
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Frogzooriaal: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/script /etc/rc3.d/S20script12:19
thomas`and will be hella useful12:19
ZarephathI am getting this error can someone advise what I need to install? error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.012:19
pvd2006what directory is xorg.conf in again? etc?12:19
Zarephath/etc/X1112:19
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ZarephathHey Seveas12:20
riaalFrogzoo, oh, thanks mate. btw if i want to have the script started whit the argument start can i just add it to the link?12:20
FrogzooZarephath: libgtk at a wild guess12:20
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fluxtZarephath: you could remove+install libgtk-1.2 ?12:20
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fluxtlol Frogzoo12:20
Frogzooriaal: it will be passed 'start' as an arg by default12:20
ZarephathFrogzoo: I looked and ran apt-get couldn't find the package...12:21
oktakorea12:21
fluxt!kr12:21
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt12:21
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pvd2006I am in the section screen of xorg.conf.custom and I see my screen should go up to 1280x102412:21
elithrarWhat's Linux's ability to write to HFS drives like? Non-existant without inelegant hacks, or native?12:21
riaalFrogzoo, oh okey, when i enter runlevel 2 will the script automaticly stop then?12:21
htinnthe package is actually "libgtk1.2"12:22
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pvd2006it also lists my graphics card12:22
pvd2006driver = "nv"12:22
Frogzooriaal: you need to create a link /etc/rc2.d/K90script   & the script will be passed 'stop' as an arg12:23
htinnelithrar: i think HFS+ is ubuntu-supported12:23
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htinnshould be in the "main" repos12:23
riaalFrogzoo, so S20 will start and K90 will stop?12:23
elithrarhtinn: Okay, thanks. Researching into dual-booting OS X and Ubuntu on an x86 Mac, when Ubuntu supports them12:24
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htinnwell, the video is the problem, elithrar12:24
Frogzooriaal: SNNscript will start (NN are numerals) KNNscript will stop12:24
htinnnothing more than framebuffer support for IntelMacs right at the moment12:24
fluxtpvd2006: section screen, look at the modes, see if your mode is listed12:25
elithrarhtinn: I was under the impression Linux could work the Apple's non-BIOS-based system?12:25
riaalFrogzoo, last question =) what dose NN (20 and 90) stand for?12:25
pvd2006fluxt,  Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720$12:25
htinnelithrar: Gentoo can already boot no problem with a modded lilo12:25
fluxtpvd2006: looks good.. strange12:25
Frogzooriaal: the numbers are just to determine the order the various scripts get run - from lowest to highest12:25
fluxtpvd2006: and ctrl-alt-numpad_minux/plus do nothing?12:26
fluxtminus*12:26
pvd2006no, it just made it look all weird:-\12:26
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Frogzoo!tell pvd2006 about setres12:26
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fluxtpvd2006: it should change the resolution, define weird12:26
Frogzoo!tell pvd2006 about res12:26
elithrarhtinn: But I don't wants Gentoo, heh.12:27
pvd2006it changes the resolution and it doesnt fit on my screen, everything is very low resolution12:27
htinni think the main problem for IntelMac is the lack of a decent ATI driver12:27
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avuhi12:27
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riaalFrogzoo, think i got it now. thanks a lot for the help!12:27
Frogzoopvd2006: read the linkie from ubotu - especially the bit about set vertrefresh & horizsync12:27
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Frogzooriaal: gl :)12:27
avuIs there a way to uninstall a package and all packages that depend on it? I installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to check out the other desktop environments and now I would like to uninstall everything they installed.12:28
pvd2006Thanks12:28
fluxtpvd2006: you did try to set the resolution using the gnome tool right?12:28
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pvd2006yes fluxt12:28
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fluxtok just checking :)12:28
pvd2006thanks12:28
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pvd2006im going to read this article12:28
icebreakdoes anybody here know how to work the vmware tools installation on dapper ? it doesnt seem to recognize that i'm using X....12:28
fluxtyup12:28
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Quinn_Stormavu: unless someone knows more than I do, that seems to be one of the failings of the current package management systems.  At least I don't know of amy way to do that.12:28
avuquinn_storm: bummer :(12:29
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bigfoot1a question: at work, web browser's network options has "proxy server" info filled out. What does this mean?12:29
Seveasavu, you could try debfoster12:29
rysiek|plavu: there has to be a way, gimme a sec12:29
avuseveas: I will take a look at it, thanks12:29
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Frogzoobigfoot1: mebbe they've set an autoconfig URL?12:30
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bigfoot1Frogzoo: no. I mean they fill out the proxy servers. what's autoconfig url?12:30
bigfoot1When I erase the inforamation, i can still surf the web.12:30
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Frogzoobigfoot1: please be more specific - I don't follow12:31
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htinnavu, there's this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_kubuntu-desktop12:31
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htinncouldn't find one for xubuntu though12:32
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bigfoot1Frogzoo: ok. in a web browser's advanced settings, you can put in proxy server info. follow?12:32
bigfoot1Something like: 123.433.348.398312:32
bigfoot1My question is: what is this information for?12:33
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bigfoot1I thought it was to connect to the net, but even when i erase that, i can still connect to the net.12:33
Frogzoobigfoot1: your web browswer talks to the proxy - then the proxy talks to the server & info returns via same path12:34
avuhtinn: thanks12:34
bigfoot1what for, Frogzoo?12:34
RabidDogLooking for help with multip tcp/ip connections, I want the comp to use eth1 for local lan only, and I want it to use eth0 for internet access, I have 2 modems 1 connected to a router which connects to eth1 and a 2nd modem which connects directly to eth0, any ideas how to configure this properly?12:34
bigfoot1why does the browser need to talk to the proxy?12:34
avuseveas: debfoster seems like a neat tool in general, thanks!12:34
bigfoot1or why does my workplace have it set up that way?12:34
rysiek|plavu: an answer from #debian: apt-get/aptitude do that automatically12:34
Frogzoobigfoot1: usually if they've set up a proxy, you can't connect to the net directly - in your case you can so, I think someone stuffed up12:34
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Frogzoobigfoot1: 1 - saves B/W 2 - security12:35
Seveasavu, tip: debfoster -o "UseRecommends=No"12:35
rysiek|plavu: so just do: apt-get remove <package_name>12:35
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bigfoot1Frogzoo: what's b/w?12:35
bigfoot1Frogzoo: security? as in virus protection?12:35
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rysiek|plbut that won't work for kubuntu-desktop nor xubuntu-desktop - they're metapackages, nothing depends on them12:35
FrogzooB/W= bandwidth12:35
bigfoot1firewall?12:35
bigfoot1Frogzoo: ok.12:35
Frogzooexactly12:35
avurysiek|pl: exactly12:35
RabidDoghelp?12:35
pvd2006Oh yeah, that is much better now. Screen resolution is a lottttt higher.12:35
IceBreakwhere is the guide on installing kubuntu on ubuntu?12:36
Frogzoo!kde12:36
ubotukde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/12:36
bigfoot1Frogzoo: is that also for logging of websites visited?12:36
HirvinenIceBreak: The wiki has a search function.12:36
rysiek|plavu: maybe try: apt-get remove kde-core12:36
RabidDog!dual wan12:36
bigfoot1or could they log that info even without proxy?12:36
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RabidDog12:36
Frogzoobigfoot1: yes12:36
RabidDog!network12:36
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.12:36
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RabidDogbah12:36
RabidDog:)12:37
bigfoot1Frogzoo: yes to which question?12:37
bigfoot11st or 2nd?12:37
Frogzoobigfoot1: proxies will log access - but you can get these logs without a proxy, but the proxy approach is much easier12:37
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bigfoot1Frogzoo: thanks.12:37
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pvd2006Is there a way to tweak Gnome to run faster? It is pretty fast, I just like really fast. You know like turn off the animated sections and such12:38
pvd2006?12:38
Frogzoobigfoot1: best advice is probly avoid sites work wouldn't be happy you visiting12:38
bigfoot1Frogzoo: does that mean they can see my gmail emails?12:38
milestonehi all. does anyone know a good graphical network discovery tool?12:38
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fluxtwell i had dual lan setup, both used dhcp so they were configure automagically12:38
fluxtconfigured*12:38
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Frogzoobigfoot1: depends on how nosey your sysadmin is12:38
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savon!multimedia12:39
ubotumultimedia is, like, totally, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications12:39
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bigfoot1Frogzoo: they can access/read my emails on gmail online) even when i use the https url?12:39
snowblinkbigfoot1, if you are concerned then ssh tunnel to a system you trust12:40
GnarusLeoWhy does a remote computer asks for a passwd when trying to open a shared SAMBA folder? I havent even set one?12:40
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Frogzoobigfoot1: with https you should be safe enough12:40
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KnorrieGnarusLeo: if there's no password, just press enter12:40
bigfoot1Frogzoo: ok. good to hear that https sites will give me privacy from sysadmins12:41
GnarusLeoKnorrie, I tried that ... didnt work12:41
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RabidDogLooking for help with multip tcp/ip connections, I want the comp to use eth1 for local lan only, and I want it to use eth0 for internet access, I have 2 modems 1 connected to a router which connects to eth1 and a 2nd modem which connects directly to eth0, any ideas how to configure this properly?12:41
fluxtwithout certificates the man in the middle approach is quite simple12:41
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Frogzoobigfoot1: not all sysadmins go snooping on other people's private mail, just btw12:41
fluxtand you can filter those out12:41
htinnRabidDog: why 2 modems?12:42
fluxtseems you could hijack any secure session...12:42
RabidDogincreased upload12:42
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RabidDogx212:42
htinnRabidDog: but all you need is a hub for eth112:42
Knorriebigfoot1: and when using https, by looking at the traffic the remote ip that's connected still can give a hint what website you're visiting12:42
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bigfoot1Knorrie: i don't mind my workplace knowing i'm accessing gmail.com, as long as they can't read the emails.12:43
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IceBreakRabidDog: isnt that just a matter of setting netmask ?12:43
RabidDogone modem is connected to a dgl 4300 router for dedicated gaming12:43
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RabidDogIceBreak, I have no idea is it, this part is all new to me?12:43
bigfoot1Knorrie: they know i check my gmail, but i hope they can't access my emails12:43
fluxti guess a traceroute could also be forged if your real cunning12:43
IceBreakRabidDog: the eth0 has an 10.0.0.x ip and th eth1 has an 192.168.0.x ip ?12:44
fluxtyou're* (i'm tired)12:44
RabidDoghowever I still need all other computers to be able to access the box for samba12:44
RabidDogIceBreak, yes12:44
IceBreakRabidDog: and it doesnt work that way currently?12:44
Quinn_Stormhey, I'm using an x server w/ composite & compositing manager...does anyone know how to get gdesklets to actually properly use this support?  anything that should be translucent/transparent is just black (though other applications like cairo-clock work fine),  I did start gdesklets with --translucent12:45
IceBreakbigfoot1: your work reads your gmail ? how about google reading your gmail ? :)12:45
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RabidDogIceBreak, no my outgoing apps can't connect12:45
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V4VendettaIceBreak, gmail doesn't read people's mail12:45
bigfoot1IceBreak: but google doesn't know who i am.12:45
IceBreakRabidDog: so basically you just didnt configure your internet properly, yeah ? It's nothing todo with network layout12:45
IceBreakV4Vendetta:  keep thinking that12:45
GnarusLeo!smb12:45
IceBreakbigfoot1: keep thinking that12:45
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo12:45
GnarusLeo!samba12:45
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently12:45
V4VendettaIceBreak, lol, i think google has better things to do12:45
RabidDogIceBreak, if u say so, so what do i do?12:46
IceBreakall your google searchss are already registered with www.google.com and gmail account12:46
bigfoot1IceBreak: what i mean is, i don't have any relationships with google. but i do with the people i work with.12:46
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IceBreakRabidDog: learn how to configure internet proerply in linux, i'm sure there is plenty of doucmentation for that12:46
fluxthi GnarusLeo how's the linux hacking going?12:46
Frogzoobigfoot1: https is enough to deter idle curiosity12:46
RabidDogIceBreak, actually no there is virtually no documentation on dual wan12:47
IceBreakbigfoot1: what do you want to do with gmail ? if you access https:// it's secure12:47
GnarusLeohi fluxt :) Im getting there ...12:47
fluxt:)12:47
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fluxtnite all12:47
IceBreakRabidDog: but your problem isnt related.. from whwat i understand, if you have only eth0 connected, it still doesnt work, no ?12:47
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Frogzooreally important question: with XGL/Compiz can you run a DVD on the desktop/root window?12:49
Quinn_StormFrogzoo: I haven't seen any reason not to12:49
FrogzooQuinn_Storm: nice :D12:49
Quinn_StormFrogzoo: of course you probably want to use the options -vo gl2 and -framedrop to mplayer12:49
IceBreakFrogzoo:  there is #ubuntu-xgl i think12:49
bigfoot1IceBreak: with gmail, i just want to send and receive emails.12:49
Quinn_StormIceBreak: thanks, I needed that too12:49
IceBreakbigfoot1: so thats the problem ?12:50
RabidDogerr now it's working12:50
bigfoot1iceburgh:  what's the problem?12:50
FrogzooI just think full transparency to an animated desktop should be pretty impressive12:50
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bigfoot1IceBreak: the above was for you. sorry iceburgh12:50
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SteilIs there a way I can stop konqueror from being the default filemanager? I use gnome but it appears to have taken over12:50
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IceBreakbigfoot1: i thought you are trying to do something, dunno12:50
RabidDogIceBreak, ok seems to be connecting now, how do I tell certain apps to use certain internet connections only?12:50
bigfoot1IceBreak: like what? what were you guessing?12:50
IceBreakyou want confedntionality12:51
Hoxzerwhat would be good video editing software for mpeg files?12:51
IceBreakRabidDog: you dont... it's not in that layer12:51
FrogzooRabidDog: you can't - unless you can sort it out in the routing tables12:51
IceBreakRabidDog: but you could use "route" for routing ip via interfaces12:51
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bigfoot1iceburgh: yes i want confidentiality... so...?12:51
IceBreakbasically if it works now, all your i-net access will be via eth012:52
IceBreakbigfoot1: so use https://gmail.com not http://12:52
bigfoot1IceBreak: i'm just curious what you were thinking. that's all.12:52
bigfoot1IceBreak: yes, i will always use https12:52
IceBreakthat was what i was thing12:52
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IceBreakwelp, anybody big flight5 update, got to reboot12:52
RabidDogicebreak and eth1?12:52
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IceBreakRabidDog: eth1 will be used for all communcation to 192.168.0.x ips12:52
RabidDogwhat will eth1 192.x.x.x be used for?12:52
RabidDogk12:53
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Frogzoobigfoot1: if you're just gossiping with your mates, I wouldn't worry - if you're swapping recipes for anthrax, that's a different matter12:53
IceBreakanybody got any idea why mysql4-server requires tons of deps that mysql5-server doesnt ? like postfix, etc...12:53
IceBreakand can some friendly user check if a bug exists,a nd if not file for php4-pear requiring php5-common as a dep ?12:54
peratures12:54
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htinnmy php4-pear says it requires php4-common12:55
htinnDepends: php-pear, php-db, php-http, php-mail, php-net-smtp, php-net-socket, php-xml-parser, php4-common (>= 4:4.4.2-1)12:55
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htinninteresting12:59
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htinn"This is a transitional package to move people to the "php-pear" package, which is now generated from the php5 sources."12:59
htinni guess that explains that12:59
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intelikeyanybody want to take a stab at fixing a few cli apps herr ?01:00
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intelikeyw who and top are all hosed.01:00
gnomefreaktop works here01:00
gnomefreaki think :(01:00
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intelikeygnomefreak what about who ?01:00
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gnomefreakyep top does01:01
gnomefreakok hold please checking01:01
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gnomefreakwho works01:01
tolgahi01:02
robinshello all01:02
intelikeyall i get is   hehhe nothing.01:02
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  who01:02
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  who -a01:02
intelikeytty2 [root#~] 01:02
gnomefreakafter these upgrades i they might not work but for now they do01:02
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gnomefreakintelikey: why tty? why not term?01:03
gnomefreakhi robins01:03
intelikeyconsole mode.    i have x but it's not running atm01:04
gnomefreakahhhhhhhh01:04
robinshi gnomefreak01:04
intelikeyand i add  \l  to my PS1  so i can tell which tty i'm on.   i have 22 login tty's   heh01:05
robins22 tty's how on earth do you use them all???01:06
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intelikeyi only use about 7 or 8 on avarage but when coding things i tend to have documents open in several more of them.01:06
robinsahh did wonder, as a sysadmin I only really ever need about 6 at the max01:07
katarothelp please i been trying to get my broadcom wireless detected for days with no luck but last night i was messing about and i went on to devices and it was there01:08
intelikeyyeah will screen would give 64 per tty  but i dont like screen so...01:08
katarotnow i need to know how to use it to connect to it01:08
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intelikeykatarot read the wiki on wifi ?01:09
kataroti have01:09
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robinskatarot check out the package wifi-radar. It was installed on my machine under Applications-Internet01:09
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Misteriihey peeps01:09
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robinsmakes joining wifi-networks a doddle01:10
Misteriiany1 tell me can I install xubuntu in ubuntu-console. My network isn't working on ubuntu-server. I'm a n00b01:10
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Brunellushas anyone else had problems with broken openoffice.org dependencies while dist-upgrading to dapper01:11
intelikeyMisterii   aptitude   or   apt-get    either one.01:11
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pvd2006I am trying to play a dvd on my Ubuntu and I tried to apt-get install libdvdcss2 but I got an error saying that its not available.01:12
gnomefreakBrunellus: yes everyone and please take dapper talk to #ubuntu+101:12
katarotyeah i cant get it installed because it wont connect to the internet so i downloaded it on winxp and now i dont know how to move it01:12
intelikey!tell pvd2006 about repos01:12
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pvd2006intelkey I have mutliverse and universe enabled01:13
kataroti have got it on ubuntu but something about i dont have permissions01:13
intelikeycheck the file version pvd2006 ?01:13
htinnpvd2006: you need something like a plf repo01:13
katarotooh sorry i need to go01:13
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intelikeyapt-cache search libdvdcs01:14
peratulibdvdcss201:14
pvd2006intelkey, that last command you gave me worked01:14
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Misteriiintelikey, does BuM automatically identify the new desktop (xubuntu) when I install?01:15
IceBreakdoes xchat-gnome have a systray option?01:15
intelikeyi have no idea Misterii i've never used bum01:15
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pvd2006yeah the synaptic package manager wont find libdvdcss201:16
pvd2006is it in something different than mutliserver/universe?01:17
pvd2006verse*01:17
babo_Does anyone here use skype or wengo ?01:17
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pvd2006plf repo, hmmmm01:17
intelikeywell Krap.   i'm fighting with this old 'micro-reboot' system for this guy right now, and it looks like the os is winning....         pvd2006  <htinn> pvd2006: you need something like a plf repo <---   maybe check the bot on  restricted formats   i think the link may be there ?01:19
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intelikey!restricted formats01:20
uboturestricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'01:20
mikulhow do i do to chown all subfiles and subfolders in a folder? because when i try just chown user:group /folder it wont work as i want... the /folder/folder2 wont be effected.... so how do i do?01:20
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intelikey-R01:20
intelikeyand    man man01:20
robinslike intelikey says chown -R user01:21
intelikeyand    man man01:21
intelikey:)01:21
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MisteriiI'm running a burndown compaq armada P2 400Mhz laptop. Is Linux-386 eficcient?01:21
mikulintelikey, thx01:22
babo_Help firefox crashed ... how do I find and kill the firefox process >01:22
babo_?01:22
intelikeyKernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 263 Mhz | Mem usage: 13.9/92.4 MB (15%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%) | Uptime: 26 mins 46 secs01:22
robinswell I have breezy running quite happily on a duron 600mhz01:22
intelikeyMisterii ^01:22
intelikeyyou judge01:22
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GnarusLeobabo, ps aux | grep fox (get the PID number) and then kill -9 <pid>01:23
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htinnkillall firefox01:23
GnarusLeoWich is a good image viewer program for gnome? The one like windows has?01:23
intelikeysudo kill -9 `pidof <blah>`01:23
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mikulkillall firefox-bin -9 :P01:24
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GnarusLeohehe ... just pick and choose babo :) But mikul's works01:24
intelikeythe -9 on that is ignored  :)01:24
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GnarusLeoomg ... 5 NOK for 0.5l beer tonight :) Thats about under a dollar, and a beer usually costs about 10-11 dollars in norway!01:26
icebreakwhat is a good linux development IDE ?01:26
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pvd2006whats the command to see your mounted drives and their location?01:27
rysiek|plicebreak: what do you need it for?01:27
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intelikeypvd2006 mount01:27
robinspvd2006 df -h will show mounts and the amount of space free01:28
rysiek|plicebreak: Quanta+ r0x for webpages and such, KDevelop is nice fo C/C++. Eclipse is great (or so I've heard) for almost anything, Lazarus is my personal favourite (FreePascal)01:28
ron_configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes01:28
ron_ <--- ?01:28
icebreakphp/C/C++01:28
intelikeyron_  b-e ?01:28
ron_anyone know what that means?01:28
intelikey!b-e01:29
ubotuI heard b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.01:29
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intelikeydid you do that ^  ?01:29
rysiek|plicebreak: php -> Quanta Plus, if you don't need an integrated compiler/debugger then I would also give it a try for C/C++01:29
kemikicebreak: eclipse is nice for java, thereis a C/c++ plugin, but i'm not sure it's very good01:29
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rysiek|plicebreak: but if you need one, go for Eclipse or KDevelop01:29
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htinnCDT is nice, actually01:29
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icebreaki'llt ry kdevelopt01:29
rysiek|plCDT?01:30
htinnkdevelop for doing Qt stuff01:30
htinnCDT is a plugin for eclipse01:30
kemikC Developtment Toolkit01:30
kemiki think01:30
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intelikeygtk ?01:31
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dv_no01:31
dv_gtk is for guis01:31
dv_CDT is an eclipse plugin01:31
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htinnyou probably want glade/anjuta for GTK stuff01:32
WebLOCHhey guys looking for some advice, if i open SSH on my box I allow access to my user account but i keep my password short becaus e sudo gets cumbersome with long passwords, is there anyway of disallowing my main user account but keeping ssh running?01:32
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dv_htinn, does anjuta have multi-project support by now?01:32
HiddenFlydoes anyone know if CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY SE works well in ubuntu?01:32
htinnnot last i checked, dv_01:32
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dv_damn :|01:32
dv_and just autotools for building, eh?01:32
htinnbeen a while since i've used it though01:33
natrollanyone know if the first line in a makefile is absolutely required? (CC=/usr/bin/gcc)01:33
intelikeyWebLOCH /etc/security/access01:33
dv_natroll, no its not01:33
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mister_robotonatroll: if it's NOT set though, the makefile might be using something from the environment that is not quite right :)01:34
fiveironi'm trying to compile something and i get this:01:35
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fiveiron "undefined reference to ppdebug"01:35
LazyAngelAnnyone using MD RAID5? I'm about to reinstall ubuntu, and from before, i have partitioned the data and system seperatly, but it doesn01:35
fiveirongetting that from lex..01:35
Misteriiwhat's a good kernel for P2 400 Mhz laptop?01:35
redguy|work-68601:35
LazyAngeldoesn't seem that i can use the old MD RAID5 table... ?01:35
Misteriithnx01:36
Quinn_StormMisterii: as long as you have enough ram, the most recent -686 is fine01:36
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Misterii256Mb efficient?01:36
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Quinn_StormMisterii: well, > 4MB is plenty so...yes01:36
natrollmister_roboto: i'm not using it for compiling actually, but as a file-distributer in a package01:36
htinnerr maybe k701:37
mister_robotonatroll: in that case, why would you care if the compiler variable is defined?   oh, nm... you were just asking if you needed to define the variable01:37
natrollmister_roboto: exactly :)01:37
intelikey<Quinn_Storm> Misterii: well, > 4MB is plenty so...yes <--- excuse me.  the initrd.img wont fit in 4m anymore.01:37
redguy|workhtinn: if you have k7 (athlon, duron) why not use the -k7 kernel?01:37
natrollmister_roboto: unless you have a better suggestion for doing that in a package01:37
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Quinn_Stormintelikey: oh? ok, well I had forgotten about initrd, and I did say > 4MB not =4MB :-P01:38
htinni probably should get the k7 kernel01:38
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mister_robotonatroll: well... make is really a tool for resolving time-based dependencies. doesn't sound like a natural fit for doing file distribution. not sure what you're doing exactly but what about simply using rsync in a script?01:39
VoidyHello, is there a program for ubuntu to use TAPI compatible phones?01:39
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htinnor maybe i should just wait for 2.6.16 kernel01:39
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redguy|workhtinn: as you wish, but i don't see any point in waiting though01:41
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htinn386 seems to work okay :P01:41
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mister_roboto"has left this channel"    what a nice way to put it  :)01:43
snowblinkSeveas, maybe ban the IP?01:43
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intelikeythank you.01:44
LinuxJonesSeveas: ty01:44
htinnyay for the /clear command01:44
Quinn_Stormwhy is it that trolls can never spell?01:44
overriderhtinn, cool, didnt know that existed01:44
Voidythey aren't allowed in public schools01:44
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LinuxJonesQuinn_Storm: they aren't very intelligent01:44
mister_robotomaybe that stupidity makes them lash out in frustration?01:45
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Quinn_Stormlol01:45
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intelikeyQuinn_Storm i don't know.  but don't use that for a gauge; i can't spell either.01:45
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Quinn_Stormlol, well many people can't01:45
Quinn_Stormits just that trolls almost always can't01:45
natrollmister_roboto: I have several files I want to distribute01:46
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intelikeywell if they were very smart they wouldn't troll....01:46
mister_robotonatroll: distribute as in...? copy newer versions to some remote machine?01:46
natrollmister_roboto: like, I have several files that define gnome menu entries01:46
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natrollmister_roboto: along with several scripts01:46
natrollmister_roboto: that the menu entries point to01:46
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nicYo homies, I just installed daper drake flight 5 and whenever I try to sudo apt-get install a certin program it tries to install form the CD. How do I download only from repositories?01:47
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mister_robotonatroll: you're just copying them to some remote machines?01:47
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natrollmister_roboto: well, i'm customizing the installer cd to install these01:47
gnomefreaknic: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin and please take dapper to #ubuntu+101:47
natrollmister_roboto: so rsync is not an option01:48
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mister_robotonatroll: oh, so you're just building a distribution package to prepare a CD and you want the newer files to go to that package location when they get updated?01:48
natrollummm, no01:48
natrollmister_roboto: i'm including the package on the cd to be installed at the end of the installation01:49
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natrollmister_roboto: so when they're done with the installation they have these menu entries already in gnome with no user-interaction01:50
mister_robotonatroll: i'm almost ready to give up trying to figure out what you're saying :)   what exactly are you doing with "make" itself?01:50
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natrollhaving make install distribute the files01:50
intelikeyreboot number 29 on the reconfigure of the micro-reboot system......   hehhe   and it hung.01:51
natrollnvm01:51
MisteriiUbuntudesktop is very slow on my P2 400Mhz laptop. Im running linux-386 kernel. Would linux-686 kernel make it faster?01:51
mister_robotonatroll: what does make give you in that scenario that you can't do with a normal script?01:51
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Angel_DexHiiiiiiiii everyone01:51
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Misteriihiiiiiiiii01:51
alterrhi, i need to compile the pl2303 module for 2.6.12-10-686-smp. So, i have installed linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp and linux-source-2.6.12.01:51
boyfromthedwarfAnyone know if there is a way to get gnome 2.14 (which was just released)?  I can't find the installer/source on gnome.org.  If not, does anyone know when ubuntu will officially support it?01:51
natrollmister_roboto: a normal script isn't easy to run at the end of the installer01:51
Angel_Dexdoes anyone know how i can tell if im stressing my computer?01:51
alterranyone help me ?01:51
LinuxJonesMisterii: you should check out xbuntu-desktop it uses xfce 4 rather than gnome.01:52
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natrollmister_roboto: in case you didn't understand, btw, i'm customizing the ubuntu installation cd01:52
AndiMAngel_Dex: huh? you mean if it's showing too many emotions, then it's over-stressed, or what? ;)01:52
mister_robotonatroll: ahh... you mean the installer IS a makefile? ur doing something like "make install"?01:52
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MisteriiLinuxJones, yeah... I'm going to. But Gnome looks so sweet^_^ I was wondering if I could keep it =DD01:53
alterrhelp guys01:53
Angel_DexAndiM Lol I was just thinking i have way to much like aplets and stuff and i wanted to know how to check if im stressin it and how to reduce it01:53
natrollmister_roboto: well, no, nvm01:53
overriderAngel_Dex, top, vmstat01:53
AndiMAngel_Dex: useful stuff: "free", "top", "gkrellm"01:53
natrollmister_roboto: i'll work it out and i'[ll let ya know01:53
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mister_robotonatroll:  lol. sounds good to me01:53
overriderAngel_Dex, conky01:54
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LinuxJonesMisterii: that's a pretty old system, Gnome in Dapper is much faster but it's not recommended unless your comfortable with Linux in general.01:54
htinnalterr, i think you only needed the headers01:54
jadaz87haha mister_roboto Styx that was a great song01:54
Angel_DexTasks:  78 total,   1 running,  77 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie01:54
htinnbut i could be wrong about that01:54
mister_robotojadaz87: another old-timer!  :)01:54
Misteriiwhat applications are there for Xfce 4/ Is it any different from Gnome?01:54
alterrhtinn, hum01:54
Angel_Dexoverrider >.> system monitor is wrong on my ram?01:55
htinnwhat's a pl2303?01:55
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alterrhtinn, usb module01:55
AndiMhtinn: usb -> serial converter chip, if I'm not mistaken01:55
LinuxJonesMisterii: they have their own utilities for system config etc. but all your favorite gnome apps will run01:55
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Angel_Dexsystem monitor says user memory 138MiB used outa 377MiB but Top says im using 322MB01:56
Angel_Dexim lost01:56
ardchoilleI bought a SanDisk Cruzer Micro 256Mb flash drive and a SanDisk m240 MP3 player and they are both autodetected in Ubuntu 5.10. I updated the Ubuntu hardware wiki page with some good info.01:56
LinuxJonesMisterii: they have a few flash tutorials on the xfce website I believe so you can see it in action and maybe determine if you like it.01:56
jadaz87mister_robot :)01:56
[aJ] Is it possible to upgrade Breezy's kernel?01:57
htinnalterr: i would guess you need a .ko file or something like that in your /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/ folder somewhere01:57
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Angel_DexMem:    386764k total,   322972k used,    63792k free,    14848k buffers01:57
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AndiMAngel_Dex: the only thing that matters is amount of memory that's swapped (paged) out, or, more closely, the amount of memory that's being swapped out/in within a certain time frame (see vmstat). Anything else is difficult to quantify.01:57
Tempest2kdoes anybody here no if Xgl works on Debian ?01:57
alterrhtinn, do i have to make symbolic link for header ?01:58
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Angel_DexAndiM ummmm ok Swap:  1132540k total,    12476k used,  1120064k free,   166832k cached01:58
htinnalterr, just install the linux-headers package01:58
alterrhtinn, example : linux -> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp01:58
intelikeyman.... you can't even chain delete files in micro-reboot dos prompt,  i had forgotton how lame that crap is......01:58
AndiMAngel_Dex: hmm, the buffered amount is not too high, so maybe you have somewhat high memory pressure causing Linux to not being able to buffer too many things.01:58
[aJ] Is there a way to upgrade from linux-2.6.12-* to linux 2.6.15 or above?01:59
Angel_DexAndiM how can i cut back?01:59
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AndiMAngel_Dex: on my system:01:59
AndiM             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached01:59
AndiMMem:       3856232    3356896     499336          0     224652    249867601:59
AndiM-/+ buffers/cache:     633568    322266401:59
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ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.01:59
alterrhtinn: but i need run a ' 'make modules01:59
stamen81hello01:59
stamen81gurus:)01:59
[aJ] gnomefreak: I'm not trying to upgrade the whole machine just the kernel01:59
Gambit-hey guys, stupid question, but if I put a group name into the members list of another group, will priviledges cascade accordingly?01:59
[aJ] gnomefreak: would I be better off just recompiling?02:00
AndiMAngel_Dex: ok, I admit I'm cheating, with my 4GB x8_32 system ;)02:00
gnomefreak[aJ] : no than02:00
htinnalterr: i assume you're compiling from source02:00
Angel_DexAndiM hmmmm meany02:00
stamen81coul'd anybody help me02:00
Angel_DexAndiM the max ram my comp can handle is 51202:00
stamen81to configure my video card ATI Radeon 960002:00
Tempest2kanybody here runnng xgl ?02:00
htinnthe driver source, that is02:00
stamen81to use 3D02:00
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gnomefreak[aJ] : the 2.6.15 kernel need certain libs that breezy doesnt have so you cant mix repos either upgrade to dapper or wait till dapper is stable and try02:00
gnomefreakto upgrade to dapper02:01
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[aJ] gnomefreak: THanks that's the exact answer I was looking for02:01
LinuxJonesstamen81: have you seen the wiki page for ati cards ?02:01
AndiMAngel_Dex: but your values (esp. swap) seem normal; better make sure instead that hdparm config is ok.02:01
htinnno prob, alterr02:01
gnomefreakTempest2k: try #xgl-ubuntu02:01
Angel_DexAndiM Hdparm?02:01
htinn#ubuntu-xgl02:01
Angel_DexAndiM Im kinda a noob02:01
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AndiMAngel_Dex: hdparm -c3 -d1 -m16 /dev/hdX or so.02:02
xiechyhave anybody opened Xgl but still can use DRI? or the shutdown of DRI is just for the sake of the released deb package?02:02
AndiM(or first: hdparm -c -d -m /dev/hdX)02:02
gnomefreakhtinn: either channel works just more people in xgl-ubuntu02:02
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Angel_DexAndiM what is a hdparm? >.> and why do ineed to check it? this is a new maxto02:02
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gnomefreakxiechy: use xgl-ubuntu channel for xgl questions02:02
AndiMAngel_Dex: well, exactly in order to not degrade your all-shiny all-brand-new Maxtor into some crappy tin box ;)02:03
stamen81so, could anybody elp ,me02:03
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Angel_DexAndiM Ok sooooo i just thro that command in my terminal then what?02:03
stamen81to enable DRI02:03
LinuxJones!ati02:03
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358902:03
stamen81does anybody see me02:03
LinuxJonesstamen81: see that link above02:04
AndiMAngel_Dex: read a good internet HOWTO; you don't want to mess up anything, I suppose...02:04
Angel_Dex/dev/hda1: Permission denied02:04
intelikeystamen81 no we can't see you sorry02:04
AndiMAngel_Dex: not partition; disk device!02:04
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AndiM(and of course you need to be root for that)02:04
Angel_Dex@.@ ok ok02:04
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Angel_DexAndiM ok i typed that in and goooot this02:06
Angel_Dex multcount    =  0 (off)02:06
Angel_Dex IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)02:06
Angel_Dex using_dma    =  1 (on)02:06
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AndiMAngel_Dex: see, and that's very, very bad ;)02:06
Angel_DexAndiM =o! why so!02:07
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AndiMAngel_Dex: try hdparm -t -T or bonnie to verify transfer speed02:07
AndiMAngel_Dex: because your HDD *is* a crappy tin box ;)02:07
Angel_DexAndiM TT_TT02:07
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Angel_DexAndiM i typed in  hdparm -t -T and got a big list of options02:08
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AndiMAngel_Dex: you usually at least want to enable 32bit transfers02:08
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TueMsomebody help me02:09
Angel_Dex148 MB in  3.03 seconds =  48.77 MB/sec02:10
Angel_Dex   AndiM02:10
TueMhow install win32 codecs?02:10
Angel_Dex 564 MB in  2.00 seconds = 281.62 MB/sec AndiM02:10
Angel_Dexbuffer then catche02:10
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ChousukeThose look fine to me.02:10
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Angel_DexChousuke >.> he say my HD is bad tho02:11
AndiMAngel_Dex: not your HDD, your config.02:11
intelikeywhere do yall get that hdpram tool ?02:11
Chousukeintelikey: from APT02:11
AndiMAngel_Dex: 3520 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1761.37 MB/sec ;)02:11
Angel_DexAndiM Hmmm Ok >.>02:11
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GnarusLeohow do I enable DMA on k3b?02:11
Jack-Hohey02:11
Jack-Hocan any one help me with a joystick?02:11
intelikeyChousuke you have installed it that way ?02:11
Angel_DexAndiM its a new (kinda new) maxtor 60gig02:12
AndiMGnarusLeo: notice how we're all talking about a tool called hdparm? ;)02:12
Chousukeintelikey: yes.02:12
Chousukeit should be installed by default on ubuntu though.02:12
ChousukeI think02:12
intelikeywell how new is it ?02:12
GnarusLeoAndiM, umm, yeah? :)02:12
natrolltwo questions: 1) why does nautilus hide file extensions?, 2) how do i turn that off?02:12
Angel_DexAndiM i do not want to stress my computer i just wish to make it last me a life time >.> XD02:12
AndiMbut before you all go ahead and do strange things with hdparm, make sure to read some info about the options: some are dangerous or problematic/risky!02:12
intelikeyChousuke this is not a default system.02:12
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Chousukeintelikey: well, sudo aptitude install hdparm then02:13
intelikeyChousuke what command to you use to install it with apt ?02:13
LinuxJonesnatroll: you don't need file extensions in Linux02:13
AndiMAngel_Dex: then it might be useful to tweak HDD noise management with hdparm (lower seek noise == less aggressive seeking == slightly lower performance == longer life)02:13
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natrollLinuxJones: ummm, that wasn't my question02:13
GnarusLeoAndiM, does hdparm enable DMA?02:13
intelikeythere aint no package by that name here Chousuke02:13
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Chousukeintelikey: enable universe.02:13
intelikeyit is02:13
Angel_DexAndiM i did that in my bios and set it from preformance to Quite mode that the same deal?02:13
natrollLinuxJones: and for that very reason it shouldn't be hiding file extensions02:14
intelikey!info hdpram02:14
ChousukeThen it should be available.02:14
xavier_I'm looking for a soft to listen to web radios02:14
Angel_Dexstoped the clickings for sure >.>02:14
Chousukeintelikey: hdparm!02:14
AndiMAngel_Dex: most likely.02:14
Chousukenot pram02:14
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intelikeyyeah yeah02:14
intelikey!info hdparm02:14
ubotuhdparm: (tune hard disk parameters for high performance), section admin, is standard. Version: 6.1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 212 kB02:14
nickrudnatroll: nautilus doesn't hide extensions02:14
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natrollnickrud: yes, it does02:14
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Chousukeplease read the manual page of hdparm before using it, though.02:15
Chousukesome options may be dangerous.02:15
on1009xavier_, xmms can do that02:15
natrollnickrud: i'm lookint at file.desktop in terminal and all i see is file in nautilus02:15
Angel_Dexnatroll mine arent hidden02:15
xavier_thanks on100902:15
natrollAngel_Dex: did you turn it off or something?02:15
gnomefreaknatroll: no it doesnt it doesnt use them for alot of files (use view hidden) will show you files.conf or files/whatever02:15
natrollthis is a base install, pretty much02:15
nickrudnatroll. Ah. That one particular case: that's a file launcher description written specifically for nautilus02:16
Angel_Dexnatroll defualt install no such changes and all .stuffs are showin02:16
Chousukenatroll: .Desktop files are shorcuts, so I guess that's why it hides the extension.02:16
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ChousukeYou don't want Firefox.Desktop on the desktop.02:16
natrollnickrud: ahhhhh, that's annoying :/02:16
LinuxJonesnatroll:  what files are you looking to see extensions for ?02:16
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nickrudnatroll we all though you were talking about .jpg , .doc, etc.02:17
natrollit should have stuck out to me, in the same directory i have a shell script with .sh02:17
natrollnickrud: it's cool, i'm tired and cranky02:17
Angel_Dexare my specs good for a normal user? 933mhz PIII with 384MB of ram02:17
natrollmany apologies people, just cranky02:17
Angel_Dex<.<02:17
nickrudnatroll: that's ok, I'm just up, over-tired & cranky :)02:17
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natrollAngel_Dex: depends on what you want to do02:17
Angel_Dexnatroll mostly the Repo games and internet shit02:18
natrollAngel_Dex: yeah, that'll run almost everything02:18
Angel_DexGod damn openduke02:18
Angel_DexTT_TT02:18
natrollAngel_Dex: might have some issues with 3d repo-games02:18
natrollAngel_Dex: unless your vid is decent02:18
Angel_Dexshitty rage pro ultra 12802:18
natrollwell, that's better than my integrated junk02:19
Angel_Dexsame02:19
natrollmy BIOS only lets me allocate 1 MB02:19
Angel_Dexi threw it in to replace the mobos02:19
Angel_Dexthat sucks02:19
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: language please02:19
natrollyeah02:19
Angel_Dexgnomefreak sorry02:19
Angel_Dexanywho Anyone know where i place hte duke3d.grp ?02:19
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Angel_Dexive put it in like every folder with no luck02:19
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vbhanuPlease take a look at this problem http://rafb.net/paste/results/yTXrq679.html02:20
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GnarusLeocan you enable DMA on a cdrom?02:21
natrollvbhanu: wow, big problem02:21
FrogzooGnarusLeo: indeed, yes02:21
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GnarusLeoFrogzoo, i tried hdparm -d /dev/cdrom .. but it justs said it was off02:22
FrogzooGnarusLeo: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc etc02:22
Angel_Dexhow do i get openduke running? TT_TT02:22
GnarusLeoFrogzoo, thanks alot02:23
GnarusLeoFrogzoo, are there any catches with using DMA?02:23
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vbhanunatroll, indeed! but the songs that i want to extract are soo good that i really want to do it02:24
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Angel_Dexhold a mic to your speaker ;P02:24
FrogzooGnarusLeo: I put this in /etc/hdparm.conf - peruse & consider: command_line { hdparm -q -d1 -q -X udma2 -q -c3 /dev/hdc02:24
natrollvbhanu: you're talking about some specialized software there.  If you don't want to code a program yourself you'll have to one of the sound programs found in synaptic02:25
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GnarusLeoFrogzoo, thanks for the info, but I have no clue what either of that means, som Im just gonna read the man :)02:25
tellyonsHi all... first time here02:25
vbhanunatroll, of course i do not want to code one!02:25
vbhanunatroll, that would be a very very big job02:25
natrollvbhanu: are you trying to extract sound from movies?02:25
Angel_Dexhow do i get openduke running?02:26
FrogzooGnarusLeo: -X sets the pio mode  -c3 sets 32bit mode02:26
vbhanunatroll, yes something like that, actually it is a serial which has some songs in between so i want to extract those songs02:26
natrollAngel_Dex: pour gasoline under his butt and light a match?02:26
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natrollvbhanu: serial?02:26
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vbhanunatroll, thats what we call a TV series in india :)02:27
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natrollvbhanu: ahhh02:27
natrollvbhanu: by movies i meant video files, sorry02:27
GnarusLeoFrogzoo, to make the burning prosess faster? Or the cdrom read?02:28
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: how did you isntall it?02:28
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vbhanunathanj, :)02:28
gnomefreakinstall even02:28
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natrollvbhanu: open synaptic and on the bottom left click on the button that says 'Sections'02:29
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GnarusLeoAnyone know how I can expand my desktop to a dual monitor on the left side?02:29
natrollvbhanu: the list that appears in the left windows should be the list of all the sections02:29
GnarusLeousing FGLRX02:29
natrollvbhanu: scroll down until you see Multimedia02:29
natrollvbhanu: those are the programs available, and it may take some looking02:30
GnarusLeosorry, anyone know how i can EXTEND my desktop to a dual monitor on the left side? :) Using ati/fglrx?02:30
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vbhanunatroll, excuse me for this but i do not use ubuntu, what i wanted to know was the name of the software, so could you please tell me the link of the synaptic?02:30
natrollGnarusLeo: i think that's not fully worked out yet02:30
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Angel_Dexwhy does no one know how to run open duke! TT_TT!!02:31
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natrollvbhanu: what version of linux are you using?  it's possible that I could point you in the right direction from there02:31
vbhanunatroll, gentoo02:31
intelikeyAngel_Dex cause i don't play games ?02:31
babo_hi guys, I have a simple permissions question ... I'm trying to save to a folder using my bluefish app. Bluefish was started by X which is running under 'user' ... I've done a     chgrp folder user      and so added user to the folders group class ... but I still can't save it ... even though I've set permissions to 775  ... help ?02:31
Server[Mute] any one know where can i find kde3.5 for Ubuntu ?02:31
babo_I feel like just doing a 77702:31
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: you answer my question i might be able to help you02:31
GnarusLeonatroll, oh .. but when I try to clone the screen the resolution is to big (apperantly) for my screen number 2 .. so everythings to big and wont fit in the screen02:31
Angel_Dexvbhanu why dont you try getting a copy of media linux>? it has like every linux media programs installed then you can try finding what you need02:31
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gnomefreakubotu tell Server[Mute]  about easysource02:31
natrollvbhanu: ahhh, gentoo should have even more than ubuntu, do you have eix installed?02:31
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ndlovuFrogzoo: My internet connection died a horrible death yesterday, but did you have any more thoughts about why I sometimes get excessive load average (hardware versus unfriendly process)?02:32
GnarusLeonatroll, though its a 32" LCD widescreen with 1300 resolution :)02:32
vbhanunatroll, no i never heard of eix02:32
Angel_Dexgnomefreak Many sorrys i installed it from the repos and it cant find the duke3d.grp i have it but idk where to put it02:32
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Server[Mute] thank you freak02:32
Server[Mute] :-)02:32
natrollvbhanu: it indexes the portage tree for fast searching02:32
dianewonghello how can I have an user account locked so there's no password02:32
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: ok i saw that in my search let me get you the link02:32
babo_Anyone ?02:32
vbhanunatroll, ok i will install that02:33
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vbhanunatroll, what do i do after that?02:33
ndlovuhdparm says Timing buffered disk reads:   38 MB in  3.05 seconds =  12.47 MB/sec - is this okay?02:33
Frogzoondlovu: well something is accessing /tmp lots, but in linux, I don't know how to track it down - in Solaris you can use iostat02:33
_jasondianewong: sudo passwd -l username02:33
LinuxJonesdianewong: you want to lock the account or have no password ?02:34
natrollGnarusLeo: all I meant is that fglrx doesn't have great support as it is, let alone dual-displays.  Tell me if you get it worked out though, I'd be interested to know.02:34
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natrollvbhanu: 'eix-update'02:34
intelikeydianewong that used to be as simple as    useradd name      but someone thought that it had to be more automatic, and messed that up.   now you have to edit /etc/shadow  i guess.02:34
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dianewong_jason: thankss02:34
GnarusLeonatroll, I will sit a couple of google hours :) Ill keep you informed02:34
natrollGnarusLeo: are you using dapper?02:34
dianewongLinuxJones: both02:34
ndlovuFrogzoo: it is very strange, system seems fine today.02:34
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_jasondianewong: that locks your account so you can't login with it.  I think that is what you wanted02:34
vbhanunatroll, i will get back02:34
natrollvbhanu: i'll be looking for software for you02:35
GnarusLeonatroll, breezy02:35
Frogzoondlovu: might want to take a look at your crontab & anacron & see what they might have kicked off at that time yesterday02:35
Frogzoondlovu: eg. do you run tripwire?02:35
LinuxJonesdianewong: locking it disables the account so nobody can login02:35
natrollGnarusLeo: ok, just was wondering.  Do you think maybe dapper has better support?02:35
ndlovuFrogzoo: I think so...02:35
vbhanunatroll, thanks a lot02:35
GnarusLeonatroll, yes I do .. I have read that the fglrx drivers are little more stable on dapper02:36
Angel_Dexho hum02:36
Frogzoondlovu: well check crontab for when it runs but I'm pretty sure we have a winner02:36
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natrollvbhanu: sure thing :)02:36
dianewongI wish that the user has no passwords at all and that he can' change his password02:36
dianewongcan't02:36
jd_I have a problem02:36
natrollGnarusLeo: it might be worth a shot then, although reversing the upgrade isn't possible, so I'd exhaust all breezy resources you can find first02:37
ndlovuFrogzoo: is that sudo crontab -e?02:37
intelikeydianewong do you want that user to be able to login without any password ?02:37
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ndlovuFrogzoo: it's not in /etc/crontab...02:37
dianewongyes intelikey02:37
Frogzoondlovu: /etc/cron.daily/tripwire02:38
jd_anyone in here know how to open the root file system to upgrade codecs and styff because my breezy badgher edition doesnt have root02:38
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_jasonjd_: what codecs?02:38
intelikeysudo passwd -d <user's name>        dianewong  but locking it so that they cant change it is a little more difficult02:38
jd_So i can play movies on my ubuntu02:39
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redguy|workjd_: the root filesystem has (almost) nothing to do with the root account02:39
jd_ok whats the root account then02:39
redguy|work!tell jd_ about w32codecs02:39
vbhanunatroll, ok now i have eix and am also done with the update...02:39
_jasonubotu: tell jd_ about sudo02:39
ndlovuFrogzoo: cron.daily: 0anacron  chkrootkit  logrotate netkit-inetd  standard02:39
ndlovuapt  find.notslocate  man-db samba sysklogd02:39
ndlovubsdmainutils  find.notslocate.dpkg-new  mysql-server  slocate tetex-bin02:39
redguy|work!tell jd_ about restricted02:39
ndlovuFrogzoo: chkrootkit perhaps?02:39
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: that page wasnt it if you look in the README or INSTALL files it shouldtell you where to put it and how to run it nothing in google noithing in wiki02:40
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LazyAngeli'm partitioning my harddisk, and is wondering how much i should set to the system and how much to the data & home.... would 30 GB to the system be enough?02:40
redguy|workjd_: read the links ubotu sent you02:40
natrollvbhanu: now you should be able to do something like 'eix --search video | less'02:40
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Angel_Dexgnomefreak nothing in the readmes ither02:40
jd_gotcha02:40
Angel_Dexkk02:40
Frogzoondlovu: was the time for you yesterday around 6:25 ?02:40
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ndlovuFrogzoo: no, would have been around 15:2502:41
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intelikeydianewong would it be acceptable to make all user passwords only changable via root ?02:41
redguy|workintelikey: did Frogzoo's advice hel with libproc ?02:41
redguy|workhelp02:42
dianewongintelikey: how can I do it ?02:42
intelikeyredguy|work i got ya pm but it's not a permissions issue.02:42
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intelikeydianewong you could remove the suid bit on passwd  but that means only root can change any passwd.02:42
babo_How do I add two groups to one folder's group class ?02:43
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zFHi guys02:43
dianewongthanks02:43
zFI have a huge problem02:43
zFI just installed ubuntu linux after using partition magic02:43
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zFand when I tried to use Windows after the install... It instantly blue screen'd of death'd before entering the OS02:44
redguy|workbabo_: you might create anoter group and make memebers of the two groups in question members of the new group. if that doesn't suit you, you would have to implement ACL's02:44
zFright before I installed ubuntu it said "Failed to start Operating System" or something along those lines02:44
Toma-zF: what was on the blue screen of deth?02:44
Frogzoondlovu: check /etc/cron.monthly which kicks off at 15:0002:44
mustard5zF, was windows working just after using Partition Magic?02:44
zFmustard5, no02:44
zFthat's when it said the "Failed to start OS"02:44
redguy|workbabo_: I ca't help you with acls, since I have never done it myself. google is your friend :-)02:44
intelikeytestdisk ?02:44
zFbut I just figured that was because I chose immediately02:45
redguy|workintelikey: well, did you manage with it oterwise?02:45
babo_redguy|work: thanks ... so I can addgroup ... and then addgroup to a group ?02:45
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Angel_Dexqb02:45
Angel_Dex*wb02:45
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redguy|workbabo_: no, you would have to addgroup for every user that is a member of either of the groups02:45
Frogzoondlovu: no - that's wrong02:45
gnomefreakty02:45
intelikeyredguy|work yeah it works fine if i call it from mc  but from shell, nada02:45
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: have you tried running it from cli?02:46
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ndlovuFrogzoo: it's more frequent than monthly...02:46
Angel_Dexgnomefreak yeah all it said was cannot find .grp02:46
ndlovuFrogzoo: it happens mostly on a daily basis02:46
intelikeyredguy|work i'm a lot more concerned about who -a returning nothing than i am top not working.02:46
mustard5zF, so Partition Magic could have wrecked it first?02:46
babo_redguy|work: ... hmmm ... so I'd addgroup and then chgrp of every user ?02:46
redguy|workintelikey: This is wrong. Something is hosed badly :/02:46
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: try it without the .grp02:46
Toma-whats the darn variable to disable locking of the cdrom? i forgot :(02:46
intelikeytty1 [root#~]  who -a02:46
intelikeytty1 [root#~] 02:46
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gnomefreakintelikey: try t outside of a root console02:47
zFmustard5, I don't know... I thought it said that because I chose imidate linux install after the changes and needed to install Ubuntu first02:47
zFthen with Grub it'd work02:47
Angel_Dexgnomefreak i have>?02:47
zFmustard5, should I restart and look at the blue screen of death?02:47
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Toma-nevermind! :)02:47
mustard5zF, someone did ask that..I wouldn't know how to interpret a BSOD message myself02:47
intelikeylol  yeah it will run for user but root gets.02:48
intelikeyneuro|laptop: Symbol `Hertz' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking02:48
intelikeyneuro|laptop: relocation error: top: undefined symbol: xmalloc02:48
redguy|workbabo_: let's say you have users bob and alice who are members of users and amins groups, respectively02:48
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: i wish i can be more help02:48
neuro|laptop:P02:48
Angel_Dexgnomefreak, tu:~$ openduke02:48
Angel_DexCould not find DUKE3D.GRP02:48
jd_ok guys here you go what if you have no terminal02:48
mustard5zF, have you tried mounting the windows partition from linux?02:48
intelikeybut what good is top if only user can use it.02:48
neuro|laptopintelikey: you weren't talking to me, were you? :)02:48
gnomefreakintelikey: try runing it as sudo (more than likey it needs sudo to run02:48
mustard5zF, maybe you can rescue data from it?02:48
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intelikeyyeah02:48
zFmustard5, no02:48
redguy|workbabo_: you want to have a directory with group ownership so that both users will be members of the group tht owns tha dir02:48
Frogzoondlovu: when you installed smartutils, did you configure it to run daily?02:48
zFI don't care about rescueing data02:48
gnomefreakwho shouldnt need permissions at all tho02:48
mustard5zF, ah ok02:49
zFI just need it to work. :(02:49
intelikeygnomefreak no sudo here.02:49
mustard5zF, k02:49
babo_ok02:49
zF/dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)02:49
zFlooks like it'd mounted02:49
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redguy|workbabo_: you would have to create a third group, let's say adusers. you then can change the dir ownership with chown so that the group adusers owns the dir02:49
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natrollvbhanu: this one might be in the realm you're looking for: Jahshaka02:49
nhainesOops, auto join.  I'm looking for #ubuntu-meeting.  Take care, all.  :)02:50
intelikeygnomefreak  you want me to install sudo and set it up just to test top.   which runs for user or in mc, but not for root ?02:50
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azadderwhere can i get a .wmv plugin for totem?02:50
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gnomefreakintelikey: it should run without permissions02:50
Misteriiis there a list of applications I can use under Gfce4 environment or is it all the same?02:50
GnarusLeoHi! I have a Maxtor 120gb external drive ... its connected through firewire ... when first using ubuntu I had writing privs ... no I get error saying that the filesystem is read only .. how can I have write permissions again?02:50
redguy|workbabo_: then you would have to add users bob and alice to the group adusers. The changes will take effect as soon as users bob and alice log in after the change02:50
intelikeygnomefreak it does.    it doesn't run for root02:50
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natrollvbhanu: another one might be kino02:51
redguy|work!tell azadder about w32codecs02:51
intelikeygnomefreak what good is top if it only runs non-root ?02:51
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WiFiTuxAnyone, please. Do you know which file blocks the access to import DISPLAYS, xhost + is not enough and I recall there was a file to edit...02:51
gnomefreakintelikey: mine works for sudo -i term and normal user02:51
azadder& thank you02:51
redguy|workbabo_: dd I clear it out for you a bit?02:51
babo_redguy|work: ... excellent thanks redguy ... so without acl then, a folder/file can only have one group ??02:52
AndiMGnarusLeo: that sounds a lot like you have an un-fscked file system with errors!! Check dmesg for details and then run fsck.ext3 or similar on this partition!02:52
serversI mounted my NTFS partition but when I want to go on it it says no permissions02:52
gnomefreakservers: sudo02:52
redguy|workbabo_: yup02:52
_jasonservers: you need to mount with the right options02:52
natrollvbhanu: PROTUX02:52
_jasonubotu: tell servers about ntfs02:52
babo_redguy|work: ... cool02:52
GnarusLeoAndiM, hi again .. you say what do I do? :)02:52
_jasonservers: check the table towards the middle of the wiki page that ubotu gave you02:52
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intelikeygnomefreak redguy|work either of you install via the server option on the install cd by any chance ?02:52
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TerradossGood morning ladies and gentlemen :)02:53
AndiMGnarusLeo: run fsck.ext3 /dev/hdXY on the *unmounted* partition.02:53
gnomefreakintelikey: not me02:53
GnarusLeoAndiM, willd o!02:53
mustard5greetings Terradoss02:53
GnarusLeodo02:53
intelikeygnomefreak does your who work ?02:53
Misteriiany ladies here 8-O02:53
gnomefreakintelikey: yes02:53
Frogzoondlovu: grep hd /etc/smartd.conf02:53
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kwyjibohello02:54
natrollvbhanu: Krut Computer Recorder02:54
intelikeyk i think it is server-install specific bug there.02:54
kwyjibowhat's a good multi-protocol command line IM (please not centericq)?02:54
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servers_jason do I have 2 install a script 2 mount it02:54
Frogzoondlovu: grep hd /etc/smartd.conf02:54
GnarusLeoAndiM, Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...02:54
GnarusLeofsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda02:54
natrollvbhanu: HyperEngine-AV02:54
_jasonservers: you don't have to, you can just do it manually by following th instructions below that script part02:54
serversI can access the partition  with terminal as root but I cant access is on the graphic shell02:54
zF!855resolution02:54
ubotuzF: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:54
FrogzooGnarusLeo: you don't want /dev/sda - you want /dev/sda1 etc02:54
AndiMGnarusLeo: I said "partition", *not* "drive" ;)02:54
natrollvbhanu: that should be more than enough02:54
zF!resolution02:55
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:55
ndlovu_Frogzoo: /dev/hda -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././12|L/../../2/14)02:55
GnarusLeoAndiM, oh, of course :) sorry, my bad :P02:55
_jasonservers: umask=0222 works well for me02:55
TerradossIs anyone able to tell me how i might resolve a problem im having where the GRUB loader is not detecting my secondary operating system?02:55
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Frogzoondlovu_: again, that's not it drat02:55
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tamerHi people!02:56
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kwyjibowhat's a good multi-protocol command line IM (please not centericq)?02:56
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Frogzoondlovu_: are you running any net services? eg apache?02:56
GnarusLeoAndiM, yes,  found a bad block ... trying to repair it (though I had to use vfat) its an old win partition02:56
servers<_jason> servers: umask=0222 works well for me <-- what do u mean I'm new 2 linux ;S02:56
ndlovu_Frogzoo: I am running a lamp platform - I use a wiki to organise my personal stuff02:56
tamerI can't configure my printer on ubuntu, how do I enable the web administration interface for ubuntu?02:56
_jasonservers: how are you mounting the drive?  are you using fstab?02:57
ndlovu_Frogzoo: but it's only internal02:57
Frogzoondlovu_: have you considered this may be a usage spike?02:57
intelikeyndlovu_ default or server install ?02:57
AndiMGnarusLeo: huh? so it was a windows partition after all? then it's no use trying to run fsck.ext3 on it...02:57
servers_jason system-->administration-->disks02:57
GnarusLeoAndiM, no, I used fsck.vfat02:57
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ndlovu_intelikey: default I think (sudo apt-get install mediawiki)02:58
AndiMGnarusLeo: hmm, right, your statement went into that direction.02:58
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intelikeyndlovu_ k02:58
_jasonservers: oh, well I don't know about changing permissions there.  Just follow the wiki on setting up fstab and let me know if you don't understand something02:58
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GnarusLeoAndiM, maybe Ill just format it to ext3? How do I do that?02:58
serverskk thnx :>02:58
vbhanunatroll, gee thanks i was out for some time i will try them and get back!02:59
ChousukeGnarusLeo: mkfs.ext3 /partition02:59
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ChousukeGnarusLeo: but beware: it destroys all data.02:59
AndiMGnarusLeo: and make sure to select the right partition!!02:59
GnarusLeohehe, of course :)02:59
Angel_Dexgnomefreak, Hey what does this mean? You need the duke3d datafile from the official Duke3d game in order to play02:59
Angel_Dexopenduke: 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50  duke3d.grp02:59
ndlovu_Frogzoo: could it be rsync? we have a backup system that polls all our laptops to take a backup (backuppc)... normally it's been pretty quick and painless though02:59
Frogzoondlovu_: there might be an easier way to fix this...02:59
Frogzoondlovu_: well if you've altered a lot of files....02:59
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: i thought you had the file?03:00
ndlovu_Frogzoo: any thoughts welcomed...03:00
TerradossIs anyone able to tell me how i might resolve a problem im having where the GRUB loader is not detecting my secondary operating system?03:00
Frogzoondlovu_: have you considered running /tmp from tmpfs03:00
Angel_Dexgnomefreak I do thats from the readme what are the nums mean?03:00
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natrollvbhanu: good luck, and just for future reference, I found most of those on www.sourceforge.net and you can also find lots on www.freshmeat.net03:00
ndlovu_Frogzoo: how would that work?03:00
gnomefreaki think thats the md5 for that file03:00
kwyjiboi don't think anyone sees my text03:00
kwyjiboteset03:00
kwyjibotest03:00
kwyjibotestes03:00
natrolli can see it kwyjibo03:00
ndlovu_Frogzoo: but it's sounding like a good idea03:00
kwyjibotesticles03:01
truz24How do you clear the text on the login screen?  I logged in, did some stuff, and logged out, and my work was still on the login screen above... How can i clear the screen without logging in ?03:01
Frogzoondlovu_: it's really cool - /tmp runs out of virtual memory, so won't hit disk unless you start swapping03:01
kwyjibotsetse flies03:01
natrolltruz24: run this when logging out: clear;logout03:01
_jasontruz24: 'clear' moves it off the window03:01
Angel_Dexgnomefreak im never gonna get this running TT_TT03:01
gnomefreakkwyjibo: if your not having ubuntu related issues you need to go to a different chanell please03:01
Frogzoondlovu_: pls - total mem? total swap?03:01
natrolltruz24: it will clear the screen and log you out at the same time03:01
kwyjiboi do have ubuntu issues03:01
ndlovu_Frogzoo: the problem is that I swap pretty quickly... (256 mem)03:01
Frogzoondlovu_: ah, k03:02
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: im not a gamer im sorry not much help03:02
natrollkwyjibo: we all have issues here, welcome to the club03:02
pulveris it just me or is gnome 2.14 faster.. feels very responsive :)03:02
Angel_Dexgnomefreak its ok03:02
truz24ah, I always typed "exit"03:02
kwyjiboi am running ubuntu and i'd like to know if there are any command-line multi-protocol instant messengers for ubuntu03:02
ndlovu_Frogzoo: swap 65003:02
Angel_Dexgnomefreak many thanks for the help03:02
truz24So "exit" isn't the right way to logout?03:02
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kwyjiboother than centericq03:02
kwyjibobecause centericq takes up the whole ssh session03:02
natrolltruz24: well, not technically03:02
gnomefreakpulver: its a bit faster but please take dapper talk to #ubuntu+103:02
natrolltruz24: but it works03:02
intelikeywhat's the command to find what package a file belongs to ?03:02
Frogzoondlovu_: with mem so low, it's probly not the greatest idea after all03:02
Frogzoondlovu_: what time does the rsync kick off?03:03
GnarusLeoAndiM, but it will be perfectly safe to format the partition to ext3, and use vmware win on that partition through firewire?03:03
babo_my bash date function has the right time but my php date function doesn't ... why ??03:03
ndlovu_Frogzoo: I've been thinking that more memory would at least lessen the problem, but it's still strange that it started happening so suddenly...03:03
natrolltruz24: if you were to start a new bash shell for some reason, however, it would only exit that shell, whereas logout completely logs you out, i'm fairly sure03:03
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ndlovu_Frogzoo: it kicks off at 10:0003:03
pulvergnomefreak: ah ok thanks03:03
AndiMGnarusLeo: I'd think so.03:03
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Frogzoondlovu_: so shouldn't be still active at 15:0003:03
truz24I just tried logout and it didn't clear the screen, but I can do clear; logout and obviously it clears it03:03
ndlovu_Frogzoo: but it is strange that I'm currently working from an Internet cafe and there's no problems03:03
truz24I guess that works for me. thanks03:04
GnarusLeoAndiM, prob more safe then using vfat :P Destroyed files one week after install03:04
intelikeywhat's the command to find what package a file belongs to ?03:04
AndiMGnarusLeo: heh.03:04
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Frogzoondlovu_: when you're connected at work, is it always slow, or only around 15:00?03:04
natrolltruz24: no problem03:04
ndlovu_Frogzoo: so it could be that there's something on our network confusing the hell out of my computer... or alternatively the fact that we've had extremely intermittent internet connections was too much...03:04
intelikeynatroll starting a new bash doesn't exit the existing one it nests.03:05
ndlovu_Frogzoo: I haven't timed it, but it's mostly always slow03:05
AndiMGnarusLeo: ext3 is a *very* safe choice, since it's ext2 plus journalling, and there are tons of data rescue options for ext2. ReiserFS (and of course also XFS etc.) is less easy here...03:05
ndlovu_Frogzoo: the fact that it's not right now is actually surprising03:05
truz24I remember using redhat a while back and it would clear the login screen every x minutes...03:05
TerradossMaybe a different problem then :P I have no idea how to have my ubuntu machine communicate with the rest of my network, can anyone perhaps point me in the direction of some documentation that might help?03:05
Frogzoondlovu_: no - something is using /tmp heavily - and it seems that that process only kicks off when you're in the office03:05
natrollintelikey: i know03:06
natrollintelikey: did i misspeak?  i probably did...and ended up sayin somethin dumb03:06
GnarusLeoAndiM, sounds great ... how do I delete the /dev/sda1, and format the whole drive to one partition with ext3?03:06
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gravesontrying to install the ATI driver provided by ubuntu (fglrx) but when i restart the xserver or reboot my system , i get a blank screen03:06
natrolland only like 12 hours to go03:06
WiFiTuxDo you know which file blocks the access to import DISPLAYS, xhost + is not enough and I recall there was a file to edit...03:06
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ndlovu_Frogzoo: I think that actually might be a red herring (but a tempting one) - I was working from a different Internet cafe the other day and it was again overloaded...03:07
GnarusLeograveson, try dpbk -i reconfigure xorg-server03:07
Frogzoondlovu_: so another way to attack the problem might be - next time at work you experience the problem, run a packet sniffer (ethereal) to see what's on the wire that might be causing the problem03:07
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intelikey<natroll> truz24: if you were to start a new bash shell for some reason, however, it would only exit that shell, whereas logout completel logs you out, i'm fairly sure<--- looked like it to me.  but i didn't see what that was in ref to.03:07
AndiMGnarusLeo: you never ever want to use one partition per drive only - bad performance and higher wearout.03:07
natrolltruz24: unless you start a new bash shell, clear;logout will log you out and clear the screen.  Really though you have to exit any bash shells you've started first03:07
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GnarusLeoAndiM, then I wont .. what would be my best choise?03:07
Frogzoondlovu_: ok, well that scratches using a sniffer, as it's not traffic related03:07
gravesongnaruleo : is that different to dpkg-reconfigure xserverxorg03:07
natrollintelikey: he had been using exit instead of logout, but now i've discovered really doesn't matter, does it?03:08
GnarusLeograveson, no, thats the one :)03:08
ndlovu_Frogzoo: I think trying to figure out what's using /tmp would be good...03:08
GnarusLeograveson, wich box are you on?03:08
intelikeyno it doesn't03:08
natrollintelikey: yeah03:08
AndiMGnarusLeo: better to use 2 to 3 partitions to limit sector seeks to the current partition only, that will prevent the head from having to cover the whole surface area...03:08
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natrolltruz24: clear;exit works just as well03:08
Frogzoois there no way to find out which process is monopolising io ? any tools to help track this down?03:08
truz24cool03:08
ndlovu_Frogzoo: isn't there some app that identifies what's "holding" a partition before you unmount it? can't remember the command...03:08
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serversthnx _jason I used the script 2 mount it worked good :>03:08
Frogzoondlovu_: fuser -c03:08
truz24I wonder what it would take to make ubuntu clear the screen every x minutes like redhat did?03:09
GnarusLeoAndiM, thanks for the input ... so I can have two ext3 parition, and one with fat (for windows connections) ... you have any idea how I will approach for this?03:09
AndiMndlovu_: lsof, fuser03:09
natrolltruz24: except that you get the extra line at the following login screen at the top that says: logout03:09
truz24I think it would be a nice security addition to ubuntu03:09
natrolltruz24: add a cron job03:09
mrglassok, i have a question. i like ubuntu, and ill probably end up with either ubuntu or kubuntu in the end, but what are some other begginer distributions i can try?03:09
truz24how do you do that across all of the terminal screens03:09
gravesongnarusleo : intel with ati radeon all in wonder pro .i followed the process on the ubuntu website but still no luck03:09
TerradossAnyone tell me how i might configure the GRUB boot loader to detect my secondary operating system?03:09
AndiMGnarusLeo: run fdisk, then create one primary partition and an extended partition with two logical volumes inside.03:09
ndlovu_Frogzoo: so fuser -c /tmp when it's overloaded?03:09
natrolltruz24: good wuestion, i'm already stumped :)03:09
Frogzoomrglass: suse, redhat03:09
GnarusLeoAndiM, I will ... thanks again03:10
AndiMGnarusLeo: first partition is fastest...03:10
mrglassfrg: thanks, lloking for more obscure ones03:10
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Frogzoondlovu_: & work through all the processes - there'll be a lot of them03:10
mrglassfrogzoo: thanks, lloking for more obscure ones03:10
AndiMGnarusLeo: (IOW, on a system HDD, put swap partition in front but also *between* two other heavily used partitions)03:10
GnarusLeograveson, ok, you have a xlog failure?03:10
Frogzoomrglass: the more obscure ones won't be nearly as newb friendly03:10
truz24btw, i did not get an additional line at the top of my login screen that said logout, just so you know.03:10
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mrglassfrogzoo: i have debian, suse, mandrake already on my list03:11
gravesongnarusleo: where would i find that log ?03:11
truz24I am working on a server install of ubuntu as well.03:11
mrglassforgzoo: doesnt need tobe really newb friendly03:11
Frogzoomrglass: well then you're good to go :)03:11
Frogzoobrb03:11
mrglassfrogzoo: ive just had enough with slackware03:11
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ndlovu_Frogzoo: wow, that is a lot...03:11
natrolltruz24: when you did clear;exit?03:11
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truz24no, i did clear;logout03:12
ndlovu_AndiM: thanks for the lsof headsup03:12
simon_ltsp problem. get to gnome manager screen on client but keyboard dosen't work! mouse id fine03:12
AndiMtruz24: I don't see why one would want to use ubuntu as a server; debian stable/testing is better here, but of course Ubuntu isn't much worse after all...03:12
intelikeyanybody can remind me how to check the package that provides /dir/file   ?03:12
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natrolltruz24: you can use clear;exit too, the only difference is with clear;exit you get that line i was talkin about03:12
truz24I see03:12
truz24AndiM, ubuntu has worked fine for me, debian seems to have some small quirks that I do not like ( had to use debian stable on a remote co-loc server )03:13
truz24the server install of ubuntu is solid03:13
AndiMtruz24: but OTOH don't put too much weight into my statements, it's mostly a matter of personal preference from the point of having chosen a relatively suitable distro.03:13
intelikeytruz24 does your 'who' command work ?03:14
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GnarusLeograveson, when crashing, check your tty1 and give me the error03:14
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Frogzoondlovu_: yes that's the problem - most everything uses /tmp03:14
AndiMtruz24: and indeed, given Debian's current management trouble using a ubuntu server install may easily be the better choice after all...03:14
TerradossLadies and gentlemen, the complete lack of response is greatly appreciated. -.-03:14
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ndlovu_Frogzoo, AndiM: fuser -vc /tmp seems to be pretty useful03:14
ndlovu_Frogzoo: only 2 output at the moment03:15
Frogzooterradoss - no problem - don't pay the bill :p03:15
ndlovu_Frogzoo: gconfd and soffice.bin03:15
gravesongnarusleo: no way to do that as the whole system hangs , ctrl-alt-f1 etc do not work03:15
AndiMgraveson: then press Alt-SysRq-S at least...03:16
ndlovu_Frogzoo: thanks for the help though, I think I'll wait until it's overloading again and then see what's accessing tmp03:16
AndiMgraveson: ([K] ill - [S] ync - [U] nmount - [B] oot)03:16
kbrookshttp://www.pledgebank.com/help-more-people03:16
Frogzoondlovu_: yep, sounds like a good plan03:17
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intelikeytruz24 ?03:17
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rambo3what do i need to compile a driver . make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-18-386/build:  get error03:18
truz24intelikey, yes, my who command works03:18
truz24sorry for the delay03:18
intelikeyand 'w' ?03:18
gnomefreakrambo3: build-essential03:18
truz24yes, did you expect them not to work?03:18
gnomefreakrambo3: that gives you gcc and make and stuff ;)03:19
intelikeytruz24 i'm asking because several have expressed that the server install, they did not work.03:19
truz24AndiM, yeah, the repos seem to be more up to date than debian03:19
truz24odd03:19
intelikeyand they don't here.03:19
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gnomefreakrambo3: you might also need the restricted mods for your kernel03:19
rambo3gnomefreak not that one i have them allready03:19
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intelikeyso truz24 yeah i kinda expected you to say that yours didn't either...03:20
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truz24so i typed clear; exit and it did put the logut text at the top, so I guess exit is an alias for logout?03:21
truz24well, maybe not a direct alias, but it calls logout03:21
intelikeyexiting the shell ends the login session.03:21
natrolltruz24: my theory is that once you have no shells running it automatically calls logout03:21
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rambo3natroll , my thought execly . isn t it so?03:22
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kwyjibohi03:23
kwyjiboi've been asking all over and nobody will help me03:23
kwyjiboi jsut get ignored03:23
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kwyjiboi'm running ubuntu and i'm looknig for a console mode multiprotocol instant messenger that is NOT centericq.03:23
rambo3kwyjibo you are typing in chinese letters03:23
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intelikeynatroll and where is the logout command ?03:24
nickrudkwyjibo: try apt-cache search instant messenger03:24
kwyjiboi did that03:24
rambo3typyng alias gives you all alias03:24
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kwyjiboi would not be here if i had not tried that03:25
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ubuntuslt03:25
juhandoes anyone know how to install gnome 2.14 on breezy?03:25
rambo3kwyjibo ass backports too . maby there is something there , chech freashmeat.net too03:25
_jasonkwyjibo: you aren't being ignored, no one probably knows the answer or they just missed your question03:26
nickrudkwyjibo: then try looking on sourceforge, there may be some you can compile. We don't know everything :)03:26
ubuntutry03:26
rambo3kwyjibo add backports too . maby there is something there , chech freashmeat.net too03:26
natrollintelikey: ?03:26
kwyjibodefine backports03:26
rambo3!backports03:26
ubotu[backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:26
intelikeyyou said it calls logout ?   where is logout natroll ?03:26
intelikey:)03:26
natrollintelikey: what do you mean where is it?  what directory?03:26
kwyjibook thanks03:26
natrollintelikey: or where does the word appear?03:27
gravesonAndi: thanks i will try that03:27
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natrollintelikey: to answer the second, login, then use clear;exit03:27
natrollat the top there is the single line that says "logout"03:27
gnomefreaki dont remember seeing multi protical messengers03:27
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kwyjibognomefreak: ?03:27
natrollintelikey: not that it's truly significant03:27
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JonningsHow can i make XMMS handle nordic languages?03:28
natrollintelikey: although if you have something that will run when the logout event is triggered, if exit doesn't trigger it you could run into issues03:28
natrollintelikey: it just seems like the easiest way to implement it03:28
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intelikeynatroll to call a command generally implies that it is external, right ?      i was wondering where logout lived ?03:29
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AndiMJonnings: possibly: export LANG=no_NO; xmms     ?03:29
natrollintelikey: maybe my terminology was incorrect, are we arguing semantics?03:29
Raul654I recently moved an ubuntu machine to a new office, with a much smaller monitor. It's now telling me the screen resolution (for the log in screen, and I suspect when I log in as well) is too high. Is there a command line utilit where I can lower the resolution?03:29
j0lliyowhat do i do to switch to kde after i downloaded the kde base files?03:29
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natrollRaul654: Ctrl+Alt+(+ or -)03:30
nickrudRaul654: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:30
natrolli think03:30
juhanRaul654: check the xorg.config and change it03:30
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GreenCulthi all03:30
idefixhi GreenCult03:30
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gnomefreakkwyjibo: ayttm is one not sure if its text or not though03:30
idefixfor some reason my cdrom's aren't mounted... how do I mount them (manually)?03:30
kwyjibognomefreak: it is not console mode03:31
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nickrudj0lliyo: at the login screen, select kde under sessions, then log in03:31
kwyjiboi am currently researching porn or naim03:31
kwyjiboahahaha03:31
kwyjiboPORK03:31
kwyjibonot porn03:31
LadyNikonquestion..03:31
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intelikeyno natroll .   logout is a bash built in.  thus. you can not exit bash and then call logout externally.     exit and logout are both bash built-ins    thus when the shell exits   you are logged out  it doesn't call logout.03:31
j0lliyothanks03:31
_jasonkwyjibo: sure03:31
LadyNikonIs there a doc on admining buzilla in ubuntu?03:31
kwyjiboi meant pork damnit03:31
Raul654ok, ctrl-alt-+ seemed to do it. But when I log out, it goes right back03:31
Raul654how do I make the setting stick?03:31
intelikeynatroll to learn more about that man bash03:32
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gnomefreakkwyjibo: naim is not a multi client its only aim03:32
nickrudLadyNikon: there's bugzilla-doc , claims to be a comprehensive guide03:32
AndiMRaul654: why don't you just read what others already told you? ;)03:32
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kwyjibognomefreak: :(03:32
juhanRaul654: go to the /etc/X11/xorg.config open it and in there you can change the settings03:32
Jhairjuhan: xorg.config ?03:33
Jhairjuhan: you mean xorg.conf ?03:33
nickrudRaul654: you need to change the horizsync & vertrefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; the dpkg-reconfigure should do that for you03:33
gnomefreakkwyjibo: pork is only aim and irc i think03:33
juhansorry, my bad03:33
kwyjiboyeh03:33
Raul654ok03:33
natrollintelikey: it could (and this is a COULD :D) have code to detect within the exit command when it is the last nested shell and then therefore call the logout code03:33
natrollintelikey: but i don't know much about the code tbh03:33
Raul654nickrud - what is the name of the package?03:33
Raul654X11 and X don't seem to work03:34
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nickrudRaul654: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:34
natrollintelikey: but you're probably right :)03:34
idefixhow do you find out what is what in the /dev dir?03:34
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idefixoh sorry, just man, I guess03:34
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andrehello03:37
intelikeynatroll *getty whitch handels login processes starts your shell when you give it the propper login code. i.e. name and passwd    and waits for the shell to exit.  when the shell exits, it returns to the pre login state.    bash (if you would read the manual) has a startup and shut down sequence that it follows, either logout or exit will close the bash session and thereby reset *getty.    but we are way off topic now.03:37
juhanQ: I have a laptop with an ATI mobility radeon 9000 IGP but i haven't been able to configure the 3D properly. i think is to do with the drivers but I'm not sure that i can find drivers that support that card properly. Any ideas? fglrx doesn't do it03:38
ankkahmm, on t 1600x1200 aika raaka resoluutio 1600x1200-nytll..03:38
natrollintelikey: thanks for the read the manual reference03:38
ankkahmm, wrong channel03:38
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intelikeylol03:38
truz24lol03:38
flogpasta lul03:38
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truz24good stuff03:38
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FrdPrefctquestion... Ubuntu rocks, but kde (via kubuntu) isn't as tightly integrated as gnome... is that true, or am i missing something?03:39
andrehow do you uninstall packages03:39
intelikeyyo mama03:39
GnarusLeohow do I approach for formating /dev/sda to have 3 partitions. 2 ext3 and one vfat/nfts? (its a 120gb disk, and I want ext3 to have 60/20, and vfat/ntfs 60)03:39
gnomefreakandre: sudo apt-get remove package03:39
idefixnormally at startup, are the /etc/fstab commands executed?03:39
AndiMandre: dpkg -l       dpkg -r <package>03:39
juhanFrdPrefct: i found the same03:39
intelikey@ natroll ^  :)03:39
Frogzoojuhan: have you tried the fglrx driver from the _seveas repo ?03:39
FrdPrefctjuhan: Which is unfortunate...03:39
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andrewill it remove all of its files i mean all03:40
natrollFrdPrefct: I felt the same way, well, at least from the graphical frontend to apt is concerned.03:40
juhanFrogzoo: i have tried the ones in the main repo03:40
FrdPrefctGnarusLeo: fdisk them to the 3 partitions... then mkfs.ext3, etc, etc03:40
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FrdPrefctnatroll: I don't care about apt... I'm command line...03:40
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GnarusLeoFrdPrefct, how do I fdisk them to 3 partitions?03:40
juhanbut i didn't know about the  _seveas repo03:40
FrogzooFrdPrefct: gnome is the stock wm - so it's to be expected gnome is more polished03:40
Frogzoo!tell juhan about fglrx03:40
gnomefreak!seveas03:41
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:41
intelikeyGnarusLeo  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda03:41
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gnomefreak^^^juhan03:41
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gnomefreakbrb03:41
FrdPrefctGnarusLeo:  /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda303:41
natrollintelikey: afaik fstab isn't a list of 'commands' but rather a reference for the system, telling it where to mount and with what options03:41
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intelikeynatroll ?03:41
andresecond question03:41
natrollintelikey: but enlightmen me sensei ;)03:41
intelikeywhere did that come from ?03:42
natrolllol, that was idefix not you03:42
biggi_mathi. i have ubuntu breezy installed on my computer and now i wanted to manually compile wine and when i tried patching it...well it's patching wine for last 20minutes. any ideas what could that be/mean/..?03:42
natrollsrry, ha!03:42
intelikeyk03:42
nickrudandre: use purge instead of remove to delete the config files under /etc03:42
andrewhat is a good package other than alien that converts rpm to deb packages03:42
natrollidefix:  afaik fstab isn't a list of 'commands' but rather a reference for the system, telling it where to mount and with what options03:42
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andreok03:42
natrollintelikey: but i like givin you crap anyways :)03:42
Frogzoonatroll: from man fstab " The proper way to read records from fstab is to use the routines getmntent(3)"03:43
Jhairandre: what's wrong with alien03:43
idefixnatroll, then why aren't my CDrom's mounted now?03:43
intelikeynatroll i thought you were really taking offence at something there....03:43
intelikey;/03:43
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natrollintelikey: oh wow i like totally hate you or something j/k ;D03:43
intelikeyidefix  noauto ?03:43
idefixyes there's that option in the list03:44
natrollidefix: what intelikey said03:44
j0lliyowhen i installed ubuntu it didn't find any sound... i have this onboard soundcard. how can i detect/load it?03:44
intelikeyna se that didn't even sound sirious natroll  :)03:44
andrefirst i know i installed it with kpackage it says its there but it wont show03:44
GnarusLeoFrdPrefct, ok ... i want a primary of 60gb .. and a extended of 60gb, wich have one 40 and one 20 logical03:44
biggi_matj0lliyo, do you have alsa installed and have you tried alsaconf ?03:44
natrollintelikey: w0rd to my mother03:44
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natrollwhat does that even mean?03:44
natrolli have no idea03:45
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intelikeyidefix  is there a "noauto" in the line for the cd in /etc/fstab ?03:45
idefixnatrol, sudo cfdisk /dev/sda ?03:45
natrollidefix: wha?03:45
intelikeylol03:45
intelikeyyou too much dude :)03:45
idefixintelikey yes03:45
Frogzooj0lliyo: lspci & then head to google, with "linux module"03:45
natrolli'm tired...heheeh03:45
intelikeyidefix k03:45
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biggi_mathi. i have ubuntu breezy installed on my computer and now i wanted to manually compile wine and when i tried patching it...well it's patching wine for last 20minutes. any ideas what could that be/mean/..?03:46
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idefixintelikey should I change it to auto?03:46
intelikeyidefix udev is running isn't it ?03:46
Frogzoobiggi_mat: no patch takes 20 mins03:46
idefixintelikey I don't think it's in the fstab file03:46
andrewhat do you guys use to burn cds03:46
Frogzook3b03:46
juhanandre: gnomebaker03:46
paolobHi guys! In my ubuntu breezy I can't switch to the console when I have the gdm login screen. It happens only on one of my 5 ubuntu pc. What could be the reason?03:47
intelikeyidefix    ps -A x | grep udev03:47
Jhairandre: nautilus03:47
MwafricaAnyone aware of a good p2p for Ubuntu..... Im new03:47
idefix 2605 ?        S<s    0:00 udevd --daemon03:47
idefix 7241 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep udev03:47
AndiMbiggi_mat: are you talking about patching via patch file or updating via CVS?03:47
intelikeyk03:47
andrek3b is good03:47
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biggi_matFrogzoo, that's what i know from other distros too03:47
juhanMwafrica: dependes on the network03:47
biggi_matAndiM, patch -p1 patch03:47
intelikeyhmm and you are using gnome idefix ?03:47
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idefixintelikey everybody who uses ubuntu uses gnome, right?03:48
MwafricaJuhan: i need mp3.. which and my network isnt that fast03:48
juhanMwafrica: amule, azureus03:48
andrehow about shrinking,decrypting dvd and burning them03:48
intelikeyno03:48
juhanandre: try dvdshrink under wine03:48
Frogzoobiggi_mat: user error?03:48
juhanandre: i instlled without a problem03:48
intelikeyidefix it is not audio cd you are having mount issue with is it ?03:48
andrei havent done the wine thing yet03:48
biggi_matFrogzoo, ? what error? i'm doing this by the howto on ubuntuforums03:49
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idefixintelikey both my DVD and old CDrom's03:49
andrei just moved from xp last week03:49
MwafricaJuhan: Have you used the two for mp3?03:49
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nickrudgnomefreak: you keep them all running?!?03:49
idefixintelikey I wasn't able to sell my old CDrom, so now I have 203:49
andreso its my first week with linux03:49
gnomefreaknickrud: not at once03:49
juhanandre: if you go to winehq they tell you how to do it and have repos for the latest version03:49
azadderis there a ftp/editor (like dreamweaver) in the synaptic package manager/elsewhere?03:49
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nickrudheh. Must have a small machine :)03:49
gnomefreakazadder: nvu03:49
juhanMwafrica:  you could03:49
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gnomefreakold machine ;)03:50
andreis that www.winehq03:50
intelikeyidefix k  well try manually mount it.   sudo mount /media/cdrom         and see what happens.03:50
MwafricaJuhan: which one is the best?03:50
biggi_matany ideas, AndiM , Frogzoo ?03:50
idefixintelikey mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist03:50
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azadderthank you gnomefreak03:50
AndiMbiggi_mat: I'd also strongly recommend either using the *well-maintained* WineHQ Ubuntu package or, if required, use Wine CVS. (Wine developer speaking here ;)03:50
juhanMwafrica: they are different, one is for bittorent and the other for the emule network03:50
juhan Mwafrica: try both03:50
m-00kiehow do you use chinese language with ubuntu/03:51
intelikeyok.  what version of ubuntu is that idefix ?03:51
gnomefreakazadder: its in universe repo03:51
juhan Mwafrica: it depends on what you are looking for03:51
idefixshouldn't the /dev/hdc and /hdd be hda and hdb ?03:51
m-00kiei have entered 'chinese mainland' as my primary language, but i dont get the input box for chinese characters..03:51
azaddergnomefreak - yea, i got it - thanks03:51
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biggi_matmay I privmsg you AndiM ?03:51
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nickrudm-00kie: that's a known problem, they're working on getting it correct for dapper (the next release)03:51
m-00kieugh, so i cant type chinese in this release??03:52
juhanMwafrica: if you use kde there was this program called apollon or something similar that connects you to most of the networks at the same time03:52
AndiMm-00kie: try something like: export LANG=zh_CN.utf8; xcim &03:52
idefixintelikey I think I run breezy badger03:52
AndiMm-00kie: (/me chinese wife ;)03:52
MwafricaJUhan: Thanks let me search for that03:52
idefixintelikey when I search for something I see them in the list!03:52
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idefixintelikey why doesn't nautilus list them?03:53
biggi_matAndiM, since apt-get doesn't find any of that cvs or hq package...03:53
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AndiMm-00kie: getting chinese input to work is somewhat of a pain in Breezy, but I can tell you that it does work for me03:53
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intelikeyidefix what version of ubuntu do "uname -r" to make sure ?    and to answer your question.    the device nomenclature is  first ide master= hda   slave=hdb  second master= hdc  slave=hdd03:53
idefixintelikey 2.6.12-10-38603:53
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intelikeyk03:53
chasmarangHi people03:53
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marie_hi all03:54
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AndiMbiggi_mat: let me finish your sentence for you: "...I have to enter WineHQ's repository to /etc/apt/sources.list" ;)03:54
intelikeyidefix   sudo modeprobe ide-ce03:54
intelikeycd03:54
intelikeyide-cd03:54
servershow can I login as root on gnome?03:54
biggi_matAndiM, uhm, let's see :)03:54
m-00kiewhat is xcim?03:54
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chasmarangI keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages does anybody know what that means?03:54
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marie_I`m new in ubuntu and I have some problems with my wifi card03:54
snowblinkservers, why would you want to?03:55
_jasonservers: that is not a good idea03:55
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AndiMm-00kie: you know how to use Google?03:55
juhanmarie_: does it work? does it connect?03:55
serverssnowblink cuz when I want to copy paste a file it says that I dont have permissions03:55
m-00kieheh03:55
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marie_iwconfig tell me that I have the card but I cannot connect to my net03:55
m-00kie#ubuntu > google! :P03:55
LadyNikonIs there a doc on admining buzilla in ubuntu?03:55
_jasonubotu: tell servers about sudo03:55
idefixintelikey sudo: modeprobe: command not found03:55
marie_juhan: no that is the problem03:55
juhanok03:55
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_jasonidefix: you probably want modprobe?03:55
intelikeylet me try that again.      sudo modprobe ide-cd     idefix03:56
_jasonservers: where are you trying to copy to?03:56
paolobGuy, what about Mark's proposat to deferre Dapper release?03:56
intelikeysorry i'm tired.03:56
gener21839Hello, I'm looking for some help installing Wine, I followed the instructions online, but I can't find wine in the repository.03:56
j0lliyothanks03:56
juhanmarie_: i had problems until i got something called gtkwifi03:56
PythonLowRacerhi. i just had a look at the new examples. the video desktop-vnc.ogg has green stirpes in it. i used totem to watch it. With mplayer or vcl it is even worse03:56
marie_I think I'm using ndisprobe03:56
idefixintelikey ok, then mount again?03:56
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servers_jason on my flash disk03:56
intelikeyyes03:56
gravesoni am running the installer for ATI and i just cannot see the whole indow03:56
nickrudLadyNikon: try sudo aptitude install bugzilla-doc && cd /usr/share/doc/bugzilla-doc && ls03:56
AndiMm-00kie: doh, it was scim, not xcim, I think.03:56
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marie_juhan: I configure it by hands03:57
LadyNikonnickrud: thanks03:57
GnarusLeook, now Im just very confused :) Im trying to format a 160gb drive (/dev/sda) to three partitions ... 1: (ext3, 60gb) 2:(ext3, 30gb) 3:(nfts, 30gb) ... fdisk just confuses me! This is an external drive03:57
marie_but nothing happend03:57
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intelikeyidefix did the modprobe return without error ?    and did it mount this time ?03:57
_jasonservers: strange, mine get's mounted so that I can copy as the user.  I suppose you can just use sudo though03:57
idefixintelikey it returned without error, but it didn't mount03:57
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juhanmarie_: anything more specific? any error messages?03:57
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idefixintelikey mount: special device /dev/hdc does (still) not exist03:57
servers_jason how 2 use sudo on graphic shell ;S03:58
AndiMm-00kie: no, "xcin" or "scim"03:58
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AndiMm-00kie: no, "xcin" or "scim" or "chinput". dammnit, don't remember which one I'm using...03:58
wvelezhi...i just ran easyubuntu to try out the ati driver for my 9250 card...now it's a lot slower running any 3d games...how can i undo the changes to my video card configuration??? thanks03:58
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chasmarang I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages do you now what that means?03:59
idefixintelikey?03:59
_jasonservers: 'gksudo nautilus' would open it up, but make sure you don't mess with important files because you can mess stuff up.  But you should look into setting it up so that it get's mounted correctly (I don't know how)03:59
snowblinkservers, what filesystem is on your flash disk?03:59
idefixintelikey am I on my own now?03:59
intelikeyno03:59
intelikeygiv me a sec03:59
idefixintelikey why did they mount in the past and not now?03:59
intelikeywhat have you changed ?03:59
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idefixintelikey I never changed anything in the fstab file03:59
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intelikeywhat have you changed ?04:00
juhanmarie_: i don't know why but my card didn't connect even though i had everything working until i got that program04:00
idefixintelikey never!04:00
idefixintelikey never changed anything04:00
intelikeyit doesn't have to be in fstab.04:00
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r0binWell Crossover Office has to be the shittest bastardisation of wine I've ever seen since WineX04:00
idefixintelikey I think I mounted fd004:00
idefixintelikey could that be it?04:00
AndiMr0bin: huh? how so?04:00
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juhanmarie_: sorry i cannot be of more help04:00
kbrooksLOL https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-March/016226.html04:00
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intelikeyno.  that's just floppy disk drive 004:00
kbrookshas the gpl really been breached here? seriously.04:01
r0binAndiM:  Claims 95% of program compatibility? Can't even get the demo to run for longer than about 30 seconds before it crashes. =D04:01
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chasmarangintelikey: I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages does anybody know what that means?04:01
kbrooksbecause replies say the source is available04:01
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simon_get to gnome desktop manager login but keyboard appears disabled, mouse is ok04:01
r0binI'm sitting here staring at four Crossover office windows which are just blank grey windows :D04:01
AndiMr0bin: 95% compatibility to what? the selected set of office related apps or windows programs as a whole?04:01
Raul654one more question -- how do I renew my dhcp lease?04:01
snowblinkmarie_, what card do you have?04:01
Raul654presumably ifconfig eth0 --something--04:01
intelikeychasmarang not i.04:01
nickrudkbrooks: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.12 , there you are04:02
r0binAndiM:  I don't know, seeing as I can't get the sodding program to run _ITSELF_ let alone run anything with it04:02
chasmarangthanks who should i ask04:02
idefixintelikey: are you a professional linux user?04:02
biggi_matis this mirror added in the wrong way >> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/ binary/  ?04:02
kbrooksnickrud, my point: people are wasting their time04:02
intelikeyidefix   do you have a /.dev  directory ?    use   ls /.dev  to see04:02
biggi_matsince apt still can't find winehq04:02
r0binI also love the healthy dollop of "Please wait" dialogs I get before it crashes. Ahhh reminds me of windows :D04:02
intelikeyprofessional ?   get paid for it.....  hah  no04:03
AndiMr0bin: I'm not sure whether you have any idea how complicated Wine is... (not that that helps much)04:03
kbrooksbiggi_mat, god damn itdont add these repos.04:03
idefixintelikey ls: /.dev: No such file or directory04:03
nickrudkbrooks: you wanna see arguments over gpl & the like, read the debian-legal04:03
oscar_jaja04:03
kbrooksbiggi_mat, comment them out04:03
intelikeyk04:03
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gnomefreakkbrooks: language please04:03
AndiMr0bin: is that a clean system? possibly something less than "normal" happening here...04:03
kbrooksgnomefreak, yes sir04:03
kbrooksgnomefreak, are you an oop? if not BE an op04:03
kbrooksop*04:03
r0binAndiM:  Clean today infact04:03
chasmarangintelikey: who should i ask04:03
intelikeyidefix this is one of those places where 'udev' hacks me off.04:04
wvelezhi...i just ran easyubuntu to try out the ati driver for my 9250 card...now it's a lot slower running any 3d games...how can i undo the changes to my video card configuration??? thanks04:04
AndiMr0bin: standard ubuntu, I assume?04:04
biggi_matkbrooks, excuse me ?04:04
oscar_ke wua?04:04
r0binAndiM:  dapper04:04
intelikeychasmarang nickrud or one of the staff04:04
Raul654How do I renew my dhcp lease? I assume it is: >ifconfig eth0 '04:04
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Raul654something04:04
idefixintelikey what does 'udev' do?04:04
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wvelezRaul654: dhclient04:05
AndiMr0bin: that might be an issue. you may try Codeweavers support, they're said to be above-average...04:05
chasmarangnickrud: I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages do you now what that means?04:05
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Raul654wvelez - thanks04:05
wvelezRaul654: np04:05
AndiMr0bin: (disclaimer: I interned at Codeweavers a loooong time ago ;)04:05
nickrudchasmarang: there should be some other messages, something about setkeycodes ?04:05
chasmarangintelikey: thanks who should i ask04:05
chasmarangyes04:05
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intelikeyit handels loading and unloading of device inodes.   well symlinks mostly.04:05
chasmarangnickrud: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.04:06
intelikeyidefix you know about tab completion ?04:06
intelikeyusing the tab key ?04:06
nickrudchasmarang: you're pressing keys on your multimedia keyboard that are not defined ; you need to define them using setkeycodes. I know of it, but not much about it04:06
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r0binAndiM: well it's just a demo, and to be honest this experience has put me off buying it :P04:07
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gener21839Hello, I'm looking for some help installing Wine, I followed the instructions online, but I can't find wine in the repository.04:07
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chasmarangnickrud: Thanks I appreciate the help - The only thing is that I'm not pressing those keys <>[o___o] <>04:07
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AndiMr0bin: sounds fair, but it'd be useful to let them know about the problem.04:07
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idefixintelikey no04:08
nickrudchasmarang: heh.04:08
idefixintelikey oh right you enter a couple of letters press tab and it completes, right?04:08
intelikeyidefix  ls /dev/ide      and tell me how many entries there are.  if less than 1004:08
AndiMgener21839: which repository? WineHQ, right?04:08
intelikeyright04:08
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CanadianSnowwhere is the best place to ask about pocket PC's and putting linux on them04:09
idefixls: /dev/ide: No such file or directory04:09
intelikeyno ide04:09
idefixintelikey04:09
asterisk99I have a PHP installation question... I want to learn PHP on Apache2 --- there are 20 PHP entries in Synaptic... which one do I really only need?04:09
intelikeyman udev is like without a backup contengent04:09
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idefixintelikey ls /dev/ide + tab yields nothing04:09
intelikeyk04:09
AndiMCanadianSnow: channel #handhelds.org04:09
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CanadianSnowty04:10
chasmarangnickrud: I cut up a usb cord and I have an astable circuit attched to the white and red wire - do you know what I can send to make it respond04:10
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nickrudchasmarang: not a clue04:11
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chasmarangthanks man04:11
intelikeywell i don't like nor use udev, so i'm stabbing around in the  dark there idefix,  let me dump you in someone else's lap.    sorry i cant do any more.  but to define the problem.  the device inode for your cdrom seems to be missing from /dev/04:11
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gravesonhow do i go about to make sure that reference of the default install of 5.10 kernel which 363 is all removed.the reason that i am creating the packages for ATI and the only packages created are all 363 not 686-smp04:11
CanadianSnowis there a version of ubuntu that will go in/on a pocket pc?04:12
kwyjiboi have a poop question. i have installed toilet1.0.2 but ~/.flush does not seem to be configured correctly, so toilet is always overflowing and dumping a mess across my screen04:12
idefixintelikey what does 'contengent' mean?04:12
Healotnot yet, CanadianSnow04:12
nickrudintelikey: .dev is now in /dev/.static/dev04:12
intelikeynickrud ty04:12
CanadianSnowis there like an expectation date for one or anything?04:12
intelikeyidefix do a    sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdc /media/cdrom   and tell me what it says04:13
nickrudkwyjibo: try apt-get install plunger snake , one of those might work04:13
chasmarangnickrud: what does non-contiguous mean?04:13
HealotCanadianSnow: , monolithic kernels like the ubuntu's need a trim down before going micro04:13
nickrudchasmarang: not lined up in sequence04:13
idefixintelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type04:13
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chasmarangthats 2.5% of my files04:14
intelikeyyou sure it is  secondary slave  ?04:14
chasmarangoh well04:14
Healotbtw. there are a lot of micro versions of gnu/linux out there :)04:14
nickrudchasmarang: not a problem then, that's pretty good04:14
idefixintelikey no, how can I be sure of this?04:14
intelikeyidefix  ^  ?04:14
chasmarangthanks man04:14
intelikeyk we hunt them04:14
idefixintelikey there was an original CDrom and I once bought a DVD rom04:14
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idefixintelikey should I remove the first CDrom from the system?04:15
intelikeyidefix do a  ls /media/cdrom04:15
chasmarangwell i'll check you guys later - thanks again04:15
idefixintelikey done04:15
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intelikeyit returned ?04:15
idefixintelikey no errors nothing at all04:15
intelikeyk04:15
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intelikeyidefix   sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdb /media/cdrom04:16
idefixintelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type04:16
intelikeyidefix   sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdd /media/cdrom04:16
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idefixudf,iso9660 ?04:16
intelikeyif there is a disk there we'll find it soon04:16
intelikeyis that what it said ?04:17
idefixintelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type04:17
idefixintelikey no, I thought, should I add this to the mount command...04:17
idefixsince it's in the fstab file04:17
intelikeyidefix you didn't add any hardware ?    no major changes to anything ?04:18
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CanadianSnowso, why is there nobody in #handhelds.org?04:18
idefixinetlikey yes I added a game to learn japanese characters04:18
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idefixintelikey yes I added a game to learn japanese characters04:18
AndiMCanadianSnow: because you hit a bad time? usually there is some moderate activity...04:18
AndiMCanadianSnow: or just visit www.handhelds.org04:19
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juhanQ: how can i have audio & video with someone in the msn network? gaim doesn't support it04:19
idefixintelikey but I don't know how to uninstall it...04:19
idefixis that possible in linux? uninstalling programs?04:20
CanadianSnowok thx04:20
tonyyarussojuhan: I think you might just have to wait for the functionality to be added.04:20
AndiMjuhan: gnomemeeting (ekiga) might perhaps work.04:20
juhanAndiM: i'll give a try04:20
juhanidefix: yes it is possible04:20
idefixjuhan, how then?04:21
intelikeyidefix we will play hard ball with it,    put this in a terminal      sudo for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/sd? ; do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done04:21
AndiMidefix: are you joking!?!? Linux can usually track and uninstall *every single file on the system*! (compare that to windows proprietary installer utter chaos)04:21
idefixare you sure I have this /dev/.static/dev/hd directory?04:21
nickrudjuhan: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#vv04:21
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intelikeyjust a sec.04:21
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juhanidefix: the easy way is in synaptic to right click on the program and select remove04:22
intelikeyls /dev/.static/dev    idefix04:22
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idefixbig list04:22
idefixreally big list04:22
intelikeyidefix  put this in a terminal      sudo for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd? ; do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done04:22
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idefixbash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'04:23
intelikeyit should open your cdrom tray and tell you the device name04:23
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langenbergHi guys. Is it possible to use apt-get / synaptic with the ubuntu live cd?04:23
idefixor just sudo /dev/.static/dev/hd? ?04:23
dv_hi04:23
juhannickrud: thanks04:23
juhannickrud: it looks like i have to wait04:24
intelikeywell drop the sudo and try it.04:24
idefixsudo: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: command not found04:24
tonyyarussolangenberg: Yes, but it will eat your RAM.04:24
idefixbash: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: Permission denied04:24
nickrudjuhan: I knew that, but I figured going to the source would be believed :)04:24
intelikeyno  the command  full command.04:24
dv_hm is dapper 5 the last RC before the official dapper is out?04:24
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intelikeyfor this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd? ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done04:24
juhannickrud: thanks anyway04:24
idefixI'm going to need some sort of basic linux course04:24
intelikeythat whole thing ^04:24
langenbergtonyyarusso: I just need to run some ruby code for a presentation. Just CLI.04:24
tonyyarussolangenberg: Should be fine.04:25
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idefixI get04:25
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idefix>04:25
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langenbergtonyyarusso: okay, thanks for the answer.04:25
Frogzoodv_: I doubt it - what about the 6 week slip?04:25
idefixwait I did just "for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd?"04:25
juhanidefix: there are a toon of manuals on the web, don't worry too much about it04:25
tonyyarussoFrogzoo: Do we know yet if that's happening?04:26
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intelikeyctrl-C that and let me safen it a little for you.04:26
idefix> /dev/.static/dev/scd?04:26
idefixbash: syntax error near unexpected token `/dev/.static/dev/scd?'04:26
Frogzootonyyarusso: I don't but it seemed likely 2 days ago04:26
intelikeyfor this in `ls /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done04:26
panzerubuntu-es04:26
whoppixhey all :) is there any tutorial how to set up alsasound on kubuntu? i think artsd is really sucking ^^ on my gentoo machine i used a tutorial from gentoo-wiki, with emu10k1, and evrything works fine...04:26
idefixwith sudo, right?04:26
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idefixls: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: Permission denied04:26
jendawhat's the recommended way of installing Firefox 1.5?04:27
idefixls: /dev/.static/dev/scd?: Permission denied04:27
intelikeyno04:27
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tonyyarussoFrogzoo: Okay.  Will keep watching for the official answer.  (Slept through the mtg - oops.  Better that than class I suppose.)04:27
panzerubuntu-es04:27
_jasonubotu: tell jenda about ff1.504:27
intelikeysudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done04:27
intelikeyok sudo....04:27
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idefixbash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'04:27
intelikeywhat do i know04:27
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wimpiesHi I want to mount my USB  disk always on the same node (and not on dev/sbx which jumps around)04:27
wimpiesHow ?04:27
snowblinkpanzer, /join #ubuntu-es04:27
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idefixare you sure about the bracket?04:27
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idefixthere's a { > combination04:28
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idefixI mean [ >04:28
idefixshouldn't it be either []  or <> ?04:28
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_jasonintelikey: does it work with []  at all?  I usually don't put those04:29
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idefixthere is a ]  later on though04:30
nickrudintelikey: your last works here (for my first cd) nicely04:30
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nickrudintelikey: without brackets04:30
idefixwithout brackets I get the same: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'04:30
alex_azzhi all04:30
robinl1Me say hi to you all04:30
dag_#quit04:30
idefixwe aren't screwing up my PC now are we?04:30
idefixnah04:30
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_jasonidefix: hehe paste what you entered04:31
alex_azzif I have an wlan0 interfacemeans that I'm using ndiswrapper?04:31
robinl1Me say hi to you all04:31
idefixsudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do eject $this 2> /dev/null && echo $this ;done04:31
idefixbash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'04:31
intelikeyk yeah the test is not needed04:31
intelikeyno brackets04:31
gnomefreakthe ;04:31
idefixso no > either?04:31
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intelikeyno leave that04:31
idefixstill the same04:32
intelikeysudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do eject $this 2> /dev/null && echo $this ;done04:32
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idefixsame again04:32
alex_azzif I use ndiswrapper I have to download the firmware?04:32
juhanalex_azz: just the drivers for the card04:32
idefix:''(04:33
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juhanalex_azz: the windows drivers, that is04:33
_jasonidefix: do sudo -s first and get rid of initial sudo04:33
intelikeyidefix you are sure you don't have two drives set to master or something on the same ide ?     if that doesn't eject anything and you have two cd drives.  where are they ?04:33
alex_azzjuhan: but I can see my interface wlan004:33
idefixnow I'm root04:33
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CanadianSnowok, so how do i run wine?04:33
werttyoi04:33
alex_azzjuhan: it means that I have the driver yet?04:33
juhanalex_azz: depending on the card you might not need to use ndiswrapper at all04:34
jenda_jason: OK thanks for that. It meantions using SCIM - how do I know if I use that?04:34
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andrehello04:34
gnomefreakCanadianSnow: wine file.exe04:34
juhanalex_azz: it might be supported out of the box04:34
gnomefreakfile.exe being the app you want to run in wine04:34
intelikeyeject should work without sudo tho, shouldnt it ?04:34
idefixthis reminds me my housemate plugged and unplugged my stuff to insert extra memory on  my motherboard04:34
idefixcould that be it?04:34
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_jasonjenda: scim is for chinese input04:34
alex_azz0000:00:0a.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface04:34
idefixintelikey _jason I'll just go offline and check for a while04:34
_jasonI think04:34
jessy_somebody here use a desktop recorder ? i'm trying to use istanbul but the movie is accelerated... :!04:34
intelikeyyep   cable backwards04:35
juhanalex_azz: having problems with the wireless?04:35
jenda_jason: Oh OK, thanks04:35
idefixintelikey what do I check exactly?04:35
intelikeycdrom ide cable backwards.04:35
andrecan someone tell me why after i installed alien and wine i cant find them it says they are there but it wont add it to the list04:35
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idefixintelikey is that possible? isn't there just one way to put it in?04:35
_jasonandre: what list?04:35
gnomefreakandre: they are cli tools04:35
intelikeypower off and make sure that all drives are properly plugged.04:35
snowblinkidefix, you need to sudo inside your ``s and I would remove the echo too04:35
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andreapplications04:35
LinuxJonesjessI have seen that as well don't know how to fix it :(04:35
andrecli?04:36
gnomefreakwine file.exe will run whatever file.exe it can04:36
_jasonubotu: tell andre about cli04:36
intelikeyidefix nope i've plugged a few backwards my self04:36
idefixbbl04:36
m-00kieAndiM - thanks.. turns out scim wasnt even installed.  just had to apt-get the appropriate packages, run scim, and everything turned out great :)04:36
andrethankyou04:36
LinuxJonesjessy_:  have seen that as well don't know how to fix it :(04:36
idefixintelikey are you still online in 5 mins?04:36
jessy_oh shit :s04:36
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intelikeyno04:36
gnomefreakand as for alien im not positive on this but i think its alien file.rpm file.deb04:36
jessy_do you know another program like istanbul ?04:36
Healotscim is too heavy to load... uim is easier...04:36
LinuxJonesjessy_:  maybe google has something on it ?04:36
intelikeyi'm going to go hide as soon as you log out04:36
idefixnoooooOOOOO!04:36
katarotcan someone link me to the pastebin04:37
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m-00kietoo heavy?04:37
Healotjsut load uim-gnome-applet... uim rocks04:37
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LinuxJonesjessy_:  you can record using vnc04:37
idefixintelikey you mean it's going to work anyway?04:37
gnomefreakubotu tell katarot about pastbin04:37
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_jasonkatarot: it's in /topic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:37
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gnomefreak!pastebin04:37
jessy_LinuxJones, i've tryed and nothings good04:37
LinuxJonesjessy_:  and like vnctoswf plugin04:37
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intelikeyidefix yeah you plug things back in correctly it will work04:37
Healotuim has the lazy IM loading time... allows faster loading time...04:37
jessy_ok i will look for it04:37
idefixok thanks a million anyway for your help04:37
gnomefreakubotu tell katarot about pastebin04:37
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katarotthanks04:38
idefixintelikey ok thanks a million anyway for your help04:38
gnomefreaki was gonna get that right if it killed me04:38
m-00kiescim is running as a daemon04:38
idefix_jason ok thanks a million anyway for your help04:38
intelikeynext time i ask what changed it would be nice to hear,   memory added  and cables messed with04:38
jessy_LinuxJones, vnc isn't in ubuntu repositories04:38
idefixintelikey I just forgot04:38
intelikeymakes diagnosing it a lot easier04:38
intelikeyk04:38
LinuxJonesjessy_:  yeah it sucks, there was actually an xorg recorder that you could actually record the session and run it on another computer, and it would actually run the apps etc in real time but I would not use something liek that :)04:38
alex_azzjuhan: yes04:38
idefixintelikey so I should never allow my housemate to mess with my PC anymore?04:38
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jessy_ok04:39
intelikeyno you shouldn't .......good luck with it.04:39
gnomefreakidefix: not with your login04:39
alex_azzjuhan: I can see the interface but I cannot connect it04:39
gnomefreakas a user not a sudoer04:39
juhanalex_azz: if you are using gnome try gtkwifi to manage the connection04:39
idefixthis sudo -s command is rather all alowing and therefore dangerous, isn't it?04:39
juhanalex_azz: it made my life a lot easier04:39
snowblinkidefix, it's more or less a root shell04:39
alex_azzjuhan: I cannot find the application04:39
snowblinkidefix, what problem are you actually having?04:39
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nickrudidefix: absolutely, and you should use sudo -i instead04:40
shortlinggshello04:40
kriduninkcan anyone help with sound problems in xine?04:40
juhanalex_azz: give me a sec and i'll put the link04:40
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shortlinggswhat is the use of raid 1?   if it is raid 1 then it means if the hard disk1 has a physical problem then hd2 will be automatically used, right?04:40
idefixsnowblink I couldn't find my CDrom's anymore04:40
alex_azzjuhan: but I set it by hand and it won't work04:40
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intelikeynickrud thanks for pointing out the over cautious error i made.   can't test a command.  it's not a condition, i should have knew that...04:40
tlee3304:40
idefixintelikey, I hope you learnt something from the whole thing04:40
shortlinggswhat is the use of raid?04:40
nickrudintelikey: no, someone else mentioned the brackets, I just cut them and tried :)04:41
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alex_azzthe Sempron is at 32 bit ?04:41
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snowblink!tell shortlinggs about raid04:41
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juhanalex_azz: then you might need to try with the ndiswrapper04:41
intelikey<idefix> this sudo -s command is rather all alowing and therefore dangerous, <--- it's full root.04:41
Toma-what file is the ubuntu logo for the apps menu?04:41
_jasonToma-: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png04:42
juhanalex_azz: but just in cae get the program and try it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkwifi04:42
Toma-thanks04:42
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intelikeyk your post was the one that caught my attention nickrub04:42
Azertyuuuhey  all, i 'm considering to install Ubuntu Flught 5, but will it be possible to easily upgrade to Alfa 1 in the near future ?04:42
snowblinkshortlinggs, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks04:42
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intelikeywell good day all.  and God bless.04:42
juhanalex_azz: it might help you set it up even if you need the ndiswrapper04:42
kriduninkhello.04:42
nickrudAzertyuuu: yes, ubuntu's designed around tools for easy upgrades04:44
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shortlinggs is ispconfig secure?04:44
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shortlinggsdoes the coders of iscpconfig have a monthly support to any bugs appearing to the program?04:44
Azertyuuuand do you know if there will be problems installing the RA2500 USB wireless Adapter ??04:44
gnomefreak_jason: is it possible to change the logo on panel in nautilus?04:44
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katarotahh cant get it martin@ubuntu:~$ for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do04:45
katarot>04:45
katarot> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile04:45
katarot>04:45
katarot> done04:45
katarotbash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311:1028:0007.5.conf: Permission denied04:45
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katarotbash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311:1028:0008.5.conf: Permission denied04:45
katarotbash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311.5.conf: Permission denied04:45
gnomefreakkatarot: use sudo04:45
_jasonkatarot: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:45
kriduninknew user. can one help with no sound from xine04:45
HealotAzertyuuu: : I know one good distro for that usb adapter, PCLinux :)04:45
Azertyuuunickrud, would you like to check in Ubuntu  if the RA2500 wireless USB adapter will work04:45
kataroti have did that to04:45
_jasonkridunink: sound works elsewhere?04:46
AzertyuuuHealot, thanx04:46
nickrudAzertyuuu: Healot seems to know that stuff better than I do (everyone knows wireless better than I)04:46
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_jasonkatarot: you don't have permission to redirect output to those files04:46
kridunink_jason: yes, on boot up and when closeing window down. video plays but no sound04:46
andrehello04:46
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AzertyuuuHealot, but i like (k)Ubuntu :)04:46
void^katarot: instead of `> bla` use `| sudo tee bla`04:46
_jasongnomefreak: I don't know, but which one in particular?04:46
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gnomefreak_jason: tryint to change the applications logo in top left corner of panel04:47
katarot_jason: how can i get permission04:47
Healotatm, ubuntu does not detect RA2500 usb adapter well yet... unless you can find its driver source...04:47
andreat the cli it tells me that alien and wine are istalled but i cant find them in my list of applications04:47
Azertyuuuare here any ENGINEERS ?04:47
_jasongnomefreak: that's /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png_backup04:47
_jasongnomefreak: oops, I mean /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png04:47
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nickrudandre: they don't have menu entries becaused they are command line tools04:48
Healotjust "locate distributor-logo.png"04:48
gnomefreak_jason: yes i know but how do i put an xfce one there instead of that04:48
_jasongnomefreak: just replace the file with an xfce logo04:48
andreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so to get to work would be04:48
andrerun04:48
shortlinggshttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p2   <--- in this manual, why is it all partition all primary?04:49
shortlinggsi thought one primary and the rest logical04:49
andrecli is shell04:49
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Azertyuuudoes anyone here earns money for usinf LINUX ?04:49
Azertyuuu*using04:49
snowblinkAzertyuuu, yes04:49
snowblinkandre, what are you trying to do?04:49
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nickrudshortlinggs: you can have up to 4 primary, or 3 primary & a bunch of logical04:50
snowblink!tell xota about es04:50
Azertyuuusnowblink, how much ? and for who do you work ?04:50
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juhanAzertyuuu: if by earn money you mean have to work with it, yes04:50
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Azertyuuujuhan, yes, what's your job04:50
snowblinkAzertyuuu, inappropriate questions04:50
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andrewell trying to change some rpm packages to deb04:50
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HealotAzertyuuu: : yes I do...04:51
nickrudandre: what rpms in the first place?04:51
juhanAzertyuuu: research at university04:51
Azertyuuusnowblink, i know, but i have to ask if as homework04:51
Healotand Windows too... :_)04:51
andrew32codecs04:51
xotasnowblink, i know about this channel, i'm in, thanks ;)04:51
kriduninkdoes anyone know any good manuals for a new user?04:51
andrelibdvd forxine04:51
snowblinkandre, all available as debs04:51
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_jasonkridunink: new to linux?04:51
juhanAzertyuuu: physics research, molecular dynamics symulations04:51
nickrudandre, see snowblink :)04:51
juhansimulations04:51
Azertyuuubecause i'll go to highscool next year to become Industrial Engineer04:51
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andrewhat site do you goto04:52
kridunink_jason: yes, about 5 days no04:52
Remenicwhat do I do with the "The following packages have been kept back" list of packages? Why does it keep showing that everytime I install something?04:52
snowblink!tell andre about w32codecs04:52
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kridunink_jason: *now, sorry04:52
andreok04:52
nickrud!libdvdcss04:52
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)04:52
Healotkridunink: , manual/documentations are really good for starters... IMHO, but you can try doing things on you own first... then consult manuals04:52
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_jasonkridunink: help.ubuntu.com wiki.ubuntu.com ubuntuforums.org are good.  Also the rute manual is good if you want to understand linux in general (the bot will send you a link)04:52
incorrecthi, i noticed that there is a 'server' build of ubuntu, does that just mean different set of default packages?04:52
_jasonubotu: tell kridunink about rute04:52
juhanAzertyuuu: but i also do a bit of web developing04:52
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idefixintelikey?04:53
juhanAzertyuuu: why? wondering if linux is any use?04:53
nickrudandre: using alien is a last ditch effort: I've had to do that only one or two times in 5 years04:53
idefix_jason04:53
idefixis there a way to leave messages?04:53
kriduninkhealot: thanks for the info, what i was planning to do04:53
idefixlike in KGS04:53
idefix?04:53
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rob138how can i change the priveledges of a mounted device (specifically an ipod), because amarok says access is denied when i try to write to it, and i assume its because the owner rights04:53
kridunink_jason: thanks alot for the info04:53
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_jasonidefix: not sure what KGS is04:54
Azertyuuujuhan,  yes ! asking myself if anyone makes money by using linux04:54
idefix_jason kiseido go server04:54
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juhanAzertyuuu: it is an important tool for science04:54
juhanAzertyuuu: and other areas04:54
Azertyuuujuhan, is it especially for programming ?04:54
snowblinkAzertyuuu, search a job site for linux. It may give you an idea of what the market is like...04:54
idefix_jason in KGS you can leave messages to people, they see them the next time they log on04:54
juhanAzertyuuu: so it would be good for your career to learn a bit04:55
CanadianSnowok, so how do i run wine?04:55
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_jasonidefix: yes there is way, but I don't know how since I never tried :)04:55
snowblinkAzertyuuu, there is certainly a market for linux skills.04:55
sigCanadianSnow: man wine04:55
Azertyuuujuhan,  no, i will become an Industrial Engineer , master Of Science04:55
sigwine --help04:55
andrewere do i download daper drake04:55
CanadianSnowfrom ubuntu, i installed some thing that said it was the newer version, but i cant find it04:55
idefix_jason, I think the cable was loosly plugged or something, I removed it, found out I could turn it the other way around (since there's some small object on one side), but now the CD and DVD work again04:55
snowblink!tell andre about dapper04:55
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CanadianSnowand when i type wine in the terminal it tells me invaild command04:56
_jasonidefix: great04:56
juhanAzertyuuu: there ia  lot of modelling done using linux in engineering04:56
sigyou have to run it with some strigs...04:56
sigman wine04:56
CanadianSnow"man wine" ?04:56
sigopen a terminal04:56
sigand type: man wine04:56
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gnomefreakCanadianSnow: wine file.exe04:57
CanadianSnowNo manual entry for wine04:57
CanadianSnowoh...04:57
mod^http://www.kossan.se/hamster_i_hjul.htm04:57
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CanadianSnow!wine04:57
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HealotSvenska?04:57
mod^huh?04:57
katz0rhi, do you guys know how to install oss2jack on dapper?04:57
redguy!se04:57
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se04:58
jessy_vandoeur libraire04:58
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redguykatz0r: ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 (it's in the topic actually)04:58
katz0rql thx04:59
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shortlinggsdoes ubuntu server only create up to 4 partition as primary? how can i create many partitions?05:00
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redguyshortlinggs: hmm, there can be only 4 primary partitions, this is not ubuntu's limitation05:01
r4zzyou can make logical volumes05:01
babo_with skype you can use the protocol to do something like <a href="skype:65465466?call"> to make a one click phone call to a landline (or so I believe)... I'm running wengo because skype haven't bothered to make a working system for AMD64 linux ....  can I do the same thing with SIP .... and how ?05:01
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gnomefreakwhy cant i open that darn file :(05:02
shortlinggsah so 4 primary partitions and then the rest partitions will be logical , is that right?05:02
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juhanshortlinggs: the logical go inside the primary05:02
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r4zzyou can't have more than four partitions, you have to get rid of one05:03
redguyshortlinggs: no, you can have up to 3 primary partitions, the 4th would be an extended partition which could hold up to 15 (not sure on that number) logical partitions05:03
r4zzthen make one and put logical partitions in there05:03
nickrudgnomefreak: which one?05:03
gnomefreakthe icon one :(05:03
Spdeis there any tool program to mount a samba filesystem in ubuntu?05:03
redguyshortlinggs: or set up lvm, this is far more flexible05:03
_jasongnomefreak: use gimp to open it05:03
gnomefreak/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png   this one05:04
JhairSpde: smbmount05:04
AndiMSpde: try smb4k or konqueror smb:/05:04
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yaaarword05:04
shortlinggsredguy all lvm for many partitions will that be ok?05:04
nickrudgnomefreak: eog /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png worked here05:04
redguySpde: if you want to mount samba shares you might want to install cifs05:04
redguy!lvm05:04
ubotufrom memory, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/05:04
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alex_azzI have a k8 I have to use ubuntu for 64 bit ?05:05
AndiMalex_azz: you *CAN* use 64bit ubuntu05:05
gnomefreakok its open to the ubuntu logo how do i change it now :(05:05
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GosuCJcan I install a duel boot of windows AFTER I install ubuntu?05:05
AndiMalex_azz: be happy, since I cannot. but Wine will be an issue with 64bit ubuntu.05:05
KakiPukulon a 64-bit CPU05:05
nickrudgnomefreak: just cp <desiredicon> /usr/share/icons ...05:05
alex_azzAndiM: and it works good?05:05
SpdeJhair: you know how a command to mount a filesystem can look like? say 192.168.0.32 user spde?05:06
alex_azzok05:06
AndiMalex_azz: it should work quite well, given that Linux had AMD64 support I think 4 years ago already.05:06
gnomefreaknickrud: its in the same folder as the ubuntu logo just a differetn icon05:06
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alex_azzAndiM: thanks I will try05:07
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elyxiwhat apps do i need to unpack rar files?05:07
nickrudgnomefreak: different name? you just need to have the icon you want in that dir named as distributor-logo.png, iirc.05:08
gnomefreakso just rename it?05:08
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nickrudgnomefreak: yeah, as long as it's already a png image05:08
JhairSpde: something like smbmount //machine/share /mnt/mountpoint05:08
SpdeJhair: thanks, is machine the ip?05:08
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JhairSpde: yes can be the IP05:09
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SpdeJhair: will it ask for user and password (encrypted)?05:09
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nickrudelyxi: unrar05:10
JhairSpde: take a look to the smbmount manpage, you can give the username and password as options in the command line (ok, to give the password in the command line is dangerous, of course)05:10
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SpdeJhair, ok i will, thanks05:11
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katarotcan someone tell how to move to files05:13
nickrudgnomefreak: that is so evil, having that logo on my panel :)05:13
FunnyLookinHatkatarot, in Gnome?  or in the console?05:13
juhankatarot: mv "file" "location"05:14
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katarotthanks05:14
gnomefreaki cant change it at all :( is there a config file that i can just take the one thats in there and replace it with name of new one?05:14
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nickrudgnomefreak: did you killall gnome-panel so the config was reread?05:14
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existanceHow do I measure the memory usage of a program.05:15
gnomefreaknickrud: yes05:15
gnomefreakstill the ugly orange and white icon05:15
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sksWhere are the defaults like "HOME", "SHELL" etc stored in Ubuntu ? It is usuallt /etc/default/useradd in most distros. But that file is not present on my machine but "useradd -D" is able to show the values. So, where are these values coming from ?05:16
Jhairexistance: pmap05:16
nickrudgnomefreak: I just mv'd the orginal distributor-log to my home, cp'd xfce's to distributor-logo.png , and restarted the panel05:16
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existanceJhair, err, what if the program only take like half a second to execute?05:16
wvelezhi...how can i tell what version of XFree86 I am running? thanks05:16
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gnomefreaknickrud: mine are in same folder can i do that with the path names of both?05:17
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Shadowlinewvelez: your running breezy ? if so your using xorg, not xfree05:18
PygiSeveas: wake up ^^05:18
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helfrezok so whos gonna be the first to install ubuntu on their mactel box lol05:18
GnarusLeoI have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?05:18
golanzhi there! I'm looking for a particular software in ubuntu, able to generate random text from some keywords... any hints?05:18
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GnarusLeo--> sda1 sda5 sda605:18
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nickrudgnomefreak: mine were also, you're just renaming a file05:18
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existanceHow would I measure the memory usage of a program that takes a short time to execute?05:19
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incorrectis there a web based searchable package db?05:19
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wvelezshadownline: im running breezy05:19
Pygiincorrect: packages.ubuntu.com05:19
incorrecti just want to find versions etc05:19
novemcan anyone tell me how to change my keyring pass in gnome?05:19
AndiMexistance: memusage <program>05:19
incorrectthank you05:19
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wvelezshadownline: how can i determine that version?05:19
shavvnsomeone please help mr get rid of the brown, the themes in gnome and xfce don't change - it's brown forever!!!05:19
Shadowlinewvelez: ok, then your running xorg, not xfree05:19
juhangolanz: there was an article on the papers a while back about two guys doing that for a conference... not sure how they did it though05:19
paganiniHi everyone; I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone might know the answer to.05:20
nickrudcd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps && sudo mv distributor-logo.png ~ && sudo cp xfce4-logo.png distributor.png && killall gnome-panel05:20
nickrudgnomefreak: ^^05:20
golanzjuhan... yes, two guys at MIT... but it is not a software05:20
Shadowlinewvelez: ermmm, look in synaptic05:20
gnomefreakty ill try it05:20
wvelezhi...how can i tell what version of Xorg I am running? thanks05:20
Jhairexistance: I don't know, maybe run top in batch mode, redirect the output of top to a file and then check the file for ocurrences of your program05:20
SeveasPygi, ?05:20
existanceAndiM, err.. is that a built-in program?05:20
_jasonwvelez: Xorg -version05:20
GnarusLeo--> sda1 sda5 sda605:20
juhangolanz: they might have release the program afterwards05:20
GnarusLeoI have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?05:20
huraxsome noob questions: if i want to have both gnome and kde on my box and be able to choose between them, is it better to install ubuntu or kubuntu?05:20
wvelez_jason: thank you05:20
Spde anyone knows what the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??05:20
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golanzI'll check here, thanks juhan: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/05:21
huraxGnarusLeo: do you want to mount them a user?05:21
PygiSeveas: I have packages for you to test (not still final, but still) if you want?05:21
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paganiniFirst, a few weeks ago I was having a problem in kubuntu where some of my apps were not following my theme. Like, XCHAT looked really ugly. Someone told me about a GTK switch in KDE Control center that fixed it.05:21
existanceJhair, that looks a bit over my head :/05:21
juhangolanz:  no problem05:21
novemanyone? whats the command for the gnome keyring manager, if there even is one?05:21
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GnarusLeohurax, same ... i just tok chmod a+wrx :) never mind05:21
paganiniNow I'm in regular ubuntu, and having a similar problem. Does anyone know of a similar fix?05:21
SeveasPygi, sure - let's got to -offtopic 05:21
incorrectoh thats new, shame its not searchable05:21
wvelez_jason: thank you...that worked...05:21
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huraxand second: if i install the amd64 version, can i still run 32 bit x86 programs?05:22
incorrectthats interesting, i thought ubuntu would have had a more upto date net-smpd package than debian05:22
SpdeAnyone? what dose the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??05:22
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juhanpaganini: is it xchat or gnome in general?05:22
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Sp4rKyhi guys05:23
JhairSpde: did you run smbmount with sudo?05:23
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paganiniJuhan: Some GNOME programs, but not all05:23
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paganiniFor example, Synaptic doesn't follow my theme. The buttons are really square and clunky05:23
edanhi can anyone please tall me where i couled find a good assembler compiler??05:23
shavvnanyone know how to fix screwed up themes? all themes are the same for me05:23
Jhairedan: a good assembler or a good compiler?05:24
incorrectedan asm not good enough for you?05:24
Dr_Willispaganini,  synaptic is using the 'root' users settings for its theme.05:24
paganiniOh05:24
paganiniThat makes sense05:24
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Dr_Willispaganini,  so if you 'su' to a different user and run a program - that users themes are used. :P05:24
DBOhello05:24
paganiniDr_Willis: Doh. I should have thought of that. So, is there any way to change such settings for root?05:25
SpdeJhair: lol, no =) it keep saying wrong password =( dose it have anything to do whit the encryption?05:25
edanincorrect, no i need a good compiler with an out put screen and variable output like emu808605:25
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Dr_Willispaganini,  A+ then :P lol.. Thinking logicially is conductive to proper linux ussage.05:25
incorrectis dapper based off debian testing or something?05:25
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gnomefreakincorrect: no dapper is in devel05:25
DBOI am having trouble getting any sound to go with my videos... I have used Easy Ubuntu to try and fix the issue.  XMMS plays music fine however05:25
Dr_Willispaganini,  run that gnome-theme selector  tool as root.  is one way.. OR better way - dont worry about it. Lol.05:25
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paganiniHehe05:25
paganiniThanks05:25
paganini:)05:25
DBOcan someone help me?05:25
DBO=)05:25
nickrudincorrect: they took stuff from unstable, up the freeze05:25
edanJhair, i need a comiler05:25
gnomefreakty nickrud i think it worked05:26
shavvnplease could someone tell me how to reconfigure themes or something, changing the settings does nothing :(05:26
DJAdmirali need help please! i have an external hard disk that ubuntu identifies, but i can't create any folders on it. help!05:26
gnomefreaknickrud: that they did but etch is a different unstable than dapper is IMO05:26
incorrectyou see debian is shipping with a horribly bugged version of net-snmpd, seems that all debian based distro's ship with it05:26
Jhairedan: emu8086 isn't a compiler AFAIK....05:26
_jasonDBO: what type of videos05:26
novemis there even a manager utillity for gnome keyring?05:26
DBO_jason: mpeg, avi, the whole shoot really05:26
novemthis is driving me nuts05:26
nickrudgnomefreak: after the freeze, yes (not counting their own patches)05:27
incorrecti thought emu8086 with an XT emulator :S05:27
_jasonubotu: tell DBO about multimedia05:27
edanJhair, its not?05:27
gnomefreaknovem: yes its in synaptic i think its gnome-keyring05:27
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  what file system is on it?05:27
novemthanks05:27
DJAdmiraldr_willis: i'm not sure, how do i find that out?05:27
DJAdmiraldr_willis: it's a usb external hard disk by the way05:27
DBO_jason: I will tell you how that goes, thank you05:28
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  'fdisk -l /dev/sd#' where sd# is the proper dev name of the device05:28
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Jhairedan: no, it is a 8086 emulator with integrated assembler05:28
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  has it beenused under windows befor?05:28
novemthats strange, its installed, gnome-keyring returns nothing in bash?05:28
DJAdmiraldr_willis: yes05:28
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huraxsomeone can help me?05:29
edanJhair, oo so i gess i need an emulator05:29
kingspawnhurax: mostly likely05:29
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  then i would guess its either NTFS or VFAT for the filesystem05:29
Dr_Willis!ntfs05:29
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:29
gnomefreaknovem: i thought that was the name run apt-cache search gnome-keyring05:29
DJAdmiraldr_willis: it was formatted under windows xp05:29
huraxwas asking whether 32-bit x86 programs run under an amd64 ubuntu05:30
novemgnomefreak: it is the correct name.05:30
DJAdmiraldr_willis: however the hard disk can READ. I just need to write to it.05:30
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ribaldjesterI've setup fetchmail to grab email from Gmail. I don't have Mutt or Postfix or anything setup - I just wanted to try out fetchmail. It worked, but now I have no idea where the emails were downloaded to?!  :)05:30
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  check out that !ntfs message/url - thers some other wiki/forum pages that discuss what going on in detail. You see the files? but cant make changes? or whats the exact problem?05:30
gnomefreakits gnome-keyring05:30
ribaldjesterno mail folder under my user account.  nothing under /var/mail either...05:30
LethalSwordwhats a good program to install Windows games on ubuntu?05:30
mephis1987hello , can any 1 tell me how to install a package if i have a .deb file05:30
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  Writing to a NTFS partition - is not 'safe'05:30
nickrudhurax: there are ways of doing that, none of which are trivial05:30
paganiniDr_Willis: Sweet! All fixed!05:30
novemgnomefreak: yes, but Is there a manager app to change my keyring password, or anything? if so how do i get to it?05:31
gnomefreaknovem: or there is alway gnome-keyring-manager05:31
KakiPukulLethalSword: : cedega05:31
AndiMhurax: yup, there are 32bit compatibility system libraries, but at least 32bit Wine is an issue.05:31
Dr_Willispaganini,  kicking.. wha twas the propblem? i forget.. Lol.05:31
paganiniLOL05:31
juhanmephis1987: sudo dpkg -i *.deb05:31
gnomefreaknovem: sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager05:31
DJAdmiraldr_willis: the exact problem is I need to copy files to it. it refuses to copy.05:31
LethalSwordKakiPukul i did get that but ubuntu wouldnt allow me to open it05:31
huraxok, thanks05:31
LethalSword:S05:31
mephis1987juhan, thanks05:31
KakiPukulnote cedega is still in development, it may suck at playing purely DirectX based games :)05:31
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paganiniSo Synaptic looks like the rest of my system now05:31
DJAdmiraldr_willis: i'm checking out the link now05:31
gnomefreaknovem: make sure you have universe enabled05:31
KakiPukulubuntu's evil then, LethalSword :)05:31
LethalSwordit said that it would have security risks05:32
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  writing to NTFS partitions is a 'work in progress' i hear that dapper can do it.. but no idea if it can, or how safe it is.05:32
paganiniFor my next question: After the GDM login screen there's a little splash window that displays some icons to show you what parts of your system are coming up. How do you customize that in GNOME?05:32
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Dr_Willispaganini,  its in the conrtol-panel thinggies.. :P05:32
Dr_Willispaganini,  'gnome-splash' or somthing I think.05:33
DJAdmiraldr_willis: if writing to external hard disks at this moment is 'unsafe' then i guess i have no exact option to use it. it's my dad's. if it screws up, i'm toast.05:33
kingspawnDJAdmiral: I'd stay off the writing to ntfs, yes05:33
LethalSwordKakiPukul should i get Cedega again from a torrent maybe?05:33
huraxand is it better to start with ubuntu or kubuntu if i want to have both gnome and kde? i'm used to kde but would like to try gome too05:33
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  yep.. sounds like  best to do READ ONLY then.05:33
gnomefreaksystem>preff>splash screen   if you have splash screen manger installed or gnome-art05:33
Dr_Willishurax,  dosent matter.. i normally install UBUNTu - then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , first thing.05:34
KakiPukulLethalSword: , read cedega related forums, before actually using it...05:34
DJAdmiralkingspawn, Dr_Willis: crap. looks like i have no way to backup my data now :(05:34
huraxthanks willis05:34
paganiniDr_Willis: Aha! I don't have the splash screen manager installed for some reason05:34
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  backing up TO a usb ntfs - not good idea.05:34
kingspawnDJAdmiral: copy the stuff on the usbdrive to your disk, reformat the usbdrive to FAT32, and start writing05:34
LethalSwordwhere are the cedega related forums?05:34
paganiniTYVM! Everything is cool now!05:34
kingspawnDJAdmiral: its only NTFS thats got a problem05:34
gnomefreakpaganini: gnome-art will install a few of those type apps05:34
paganini:)05:34
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  cedega homepage has ooodles of them.05:34
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KakiPukulLethalSword: : the evil Google will help you find them...05:35
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  but they mey be for paying customers only. Not sure.05:35
DJAdmiralkingspawn: i can't reformat it. my dad won't let me.05:35
guest_hi xx05:35
kingspawnDJAdmiral: it will be the same as before, after yo uhave copied everything that was on it BACK05:35
DJAdmiralkingspawn: looks like im pretty much toast :(05:35
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LethalSwordyea they are for only pay05:35
kingspawnDJAdmiral: 1) copy data on usb to regular comp. 2) reformat usb to a format that works perfectly in WinXP (FAT32) 3) copy data from comp to usb again05:36
SpdeIm trying to mount a samba filsystem in another ubuntu comp..  keep getting "12736: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) after typing in the password.. command (sudo smbmount //ip/folder /mnt/test username=spde) Plese help me =)05:36
kingspawnyour dad will prolly never know05:36
DJAdmiralkingspawn: i know that, duh, but my dad knows that my hard disk is totally messed up.05:36
DJAdmiralkingspawn: oh he will know05:36
DJAdmiralkingspawn: trust me05:36
kingspawnim not sure what that means, but then youre toast, yes.05:36
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  how about this - install that tool that lets WindowsXP read/write Ext2/3 and use XP to backup your data.05:36
LethalSwordShould  i get the .deb package of Cedega05:37
novemalright, i still cant figure out how to change the damn keyring password05:37
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DJAdmiraldr_willis, kingspawn: the problem is my computer cannot run windows xp.05:37
Tomcat_Spde: Try adding the password after username... like "username=spde,password=mypass"05:37
novemi have both manager and services/client installed for gnome-keyring05:37
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html05:37
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juhanpaganini: what did you use for changing the theme? sudo gnome-theme-manager doesn't change anything for me05:37
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  what is it running then?05:37
novemwhere do i edit keyring passwords?05:37
JhairSpde: is the smbfs kernel module active (what does lsmod | grep smb say?)05:37
DJAdmiraldr_willis, kingspawn: it cannot handle windows xp. it runs on winme05:37
Tomcat_Spde: If that doesn't work, I guess the share is not correctly configured.05:37
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  Ick!05:37
Tomcat_novem: gnome-keyring-manager05:37
kingspawnDJAdmiral: seems some kind of setup you've got there05:37
Frogzoo!themes05:37
Tomcat_novem: Or rather... what keyring? :D05:37
Dr_Willisactually theres that 'ext2explorer' program that i think can do ext2 read only...05:38
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novemTomcat_: why does that command return not found?05:38
DJAdmiraldr_willis, kingspawn: ick is right. and now winme is not booting.05:38
Tomcat_novem: Not installed maybe?05:38
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is NTFS then windowsme - cant read it either.05:38
mephis1987_can any 1 guide me how to mount NTFS partition such as C and D: ?05:38
novemTomcat_: definitally installed05:38
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is VFAT then linux Can read/wriote to it.05:38
mephis1987_is there some kind of script to do that05:38
novemcould be a problem with dapper05:38
Dr_Willismephis1987_,  the idea of C: and D: dont apply.05:38
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Dr_Willis!ntfs05:38
kingspawnDJAdmiral: have you tried writing to it as root? i believe mounted devices are mounted with no write-access for regular users05:38
LethalSwordShould i get the .deb package for Cedega05:38
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:38
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LethalSword!rpm05:38
ubotusomebody said rpm was the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien05:38
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katarotwhere can i learn the commands used in the terminal05:39
Tomcat_novem: Typo maybe? I have it installed as well and the command is available.05:39
DJAdmiraldr_willis, kingspawn: at the moment my winme cannot even recognise the external hard disk.05:39
Dr_Williskatarot,  google is your friend.. "google for bash tutorials"05:39
LethalSword!alien05:39
ubotufrom memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/05:39
mephis1987_Dr_Willis, yes i know05:39
mephis1987_sorry for that05:39
novemTomcat_: definitally not mistyping 20x times in a row :(05:39
gnomefreakheres a stupid question what is scim?05:39
LethalSword!moo05:39
ubotuLethalSword: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:39
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  use mount, and 'fdisk -l' and see what file system the thing is.05:39
DJAdmiralkingspawn: that is a good idea. let me try that05:39
mephis1987_but do u know how to mount ntfs partitions ?05:39
nickrud!scim05:40
ubotuscim is, like, totally, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/05:40
Frogzookatarot: ls /bin & /usr/bin & work through the manpages with man05:40
mephis1987_!ntfs05:40
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:40
Dr_Willismephis1987_,  same as any othe rpartition.05:40
Tomcat_novem: dpkg -l gnome-keyring-manager <--- That command returns what?05:40
KakiPukul!uim05:40
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KakiPukul05:40
Zonnyhm, do you guys know is easy ubuntu working with dapper?05:40
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LethalSword!tell LethalSword about terminal05:40
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coredumphi05:40
nickrud!info gnome-uim05:40
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gnomefreakty nickrud05:40
DJAdmiraldr_willis, kingspawn: everybody, the thing is MOUNTED. i can read from it. the problem is i can't write to it. in either case i'm logging on root now. i'll be back in a few minutes05:40
DogWaterHowdy anyone know of any problems with GDM and 945G?05:40
DogWaterI just got an inspiron 6400 and I tried installing ubuntu on it and i was sad to find out that gdm doesnt work on it.05:41
SpdeJhair: lsmod | grep smb returns nothing05:41
LethalSwordhow do i install cedega05:41
DBO_jason: it worked, thank you05:41
LethalSwordi got a good package and extracted it05:41
gnomefreak!cedega05:41
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LethalSwordbut theres more packages05:41
alex6zDogWater, what is this issue with gdm and login managers?05:41
Dr_WillisThe cedega homepage has docs. :P05:41
AndiMDogWater: what does gdm have to do with a specific machine? not much, if you ask me... you mean the X server doesn't start properly?05:41
gnomefreakubotu tell LethalSword about cedega05:42
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alex6zDogWater, I mean graphics hardware05:42
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JhairSpde: what does sudo modprobe smbfs.ko do?05:42
Dr_Willisit needed some xlib package last i installed cedega - as well05:42
KakiPukulGDM works if X works05:42
alex6zJhair, loads that module into the kernel05:42
DogWateralex6z: well i just got a totally brand new Dell laptop its an inspiron 6400 it has the Intel 945G05:42
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Jhairalex6z: I know :)05:42
gnomefreakif his gdm isnt messed up05:42
coredump.oart05:42
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DogWaterand I just installed ubuntu and didnt change any of the default settings05:42
Jhairalex6z: I am asking Spde what does it on his machine, if it gives an error...05:43
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SpdeJhair: FATAL: moduele smbfs.ko not found05:43
alex6zJhair, ok :)05:43
Tadej`Certanchello05:43
DogWaterI was also trying to find out if anyone knows if the dell truemobile card was supported?05:43
gnomefreakDogWater: do you have any graphical desktop?05:43
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Tadej`Certanchow can I make samba open port only on eth1?05:43
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jadaz87hello everyone i was wondering how do you mount a hard drive or does linux do it for you automatically?05:43
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gnomefreak!hardware05:43
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:43
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DogWaterwell when it starts up it tells me that GDM is disabled.. I'm a linux system administrator who has never used Linux as a desktop before.. so its kind of a funny paradigm...05:43
_jasonjadaz87: what filesystem?05:44
gnomefreak^^^ will tell you if its supported05:44
JhairSpde: ugh. did you compiled that kernel by yourself? Or is the ubuntu kernel...05:44
jadaz87well ntfs but i am going to convert it to fat3205:44
DogWaterI guess I could get by just using it in the shell.05:44
DogWaterbut then I may as well just use windows.05:44
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SpdeJhair: its the ubuntu kernel05:44
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  you can mount it manually of course.. then some disrtos/window managers can doit auto-matitially05:44
jadaz87because i do not think i can convert from ntfs to ext305:44
gnomefreakDogWater:  read teh link above to find out if supported05:44
DBOjadaz05:44
DBOto do NTFS05:44
DBOhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs05:44
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JhairSpde: could you try without the .ko extension?05:44
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DogWaterdoesnt even mention this one lol05:45
DogWaterguess windows it is :-)05:45
gnomefreakDBO: no please dont recommend that05:45
SpdeJhair: i can share to windows computers whit samba from the file server and the one i want to mount in05:45
DBOwhy? worked for me?05:45
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juhanjadaz87: better fat32 in case you want to use it with windows again05:45
_jasonDogWater: hmm what vid card does it have?05:45
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide05:45
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead05:45
DogWater945G05:45
DogWaterIntel05:45
nickrudDogWater: what exact error was that with gdm again?05:45
DBOoh I see05:45
SpdeJhair: returns nothing whitout the .ko05:45
Dr_WillisDBO,  ubuntuguide.org is rather out of date in Many 'bad' ways.05:45
jadaz87ok thanks let me convert it now05:45
DogWaterhang on i'll upload the log05:45
nickrudDogWater: don't paste it here :)05:46
JhairSpde: ok, could you try the lsmod .. thing again? is the module there?05:46
kingspawnDBO: help.ubuntu.com will usually answer05:46
DogWaterupload generally indicates i'll transfer it somewhere05:46
z33How do I go about installing ubuntu over a current linux partition? I have a dual boot setup with fedora/WinXP and I want to get rid of Fedora and not lose the ability to boot to my WinXP partition05:46
SpdeJhair: yes it is05:46
nickrudDogWater: np, just being sure :)05:46
JhairSpde: does smbmount give the same error now?05:46
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Dr_Willisz33 you can be sure to tell the ubuntu installer what parttion to install to, and let it format it..05:47
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manaola05:47
DJAdmiralnot. working.05:47
ppastorolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:47
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Dr_Willisz33,  be 'carefull' :P dont tell it to use the whole drive, or the wrong partition.05:48
KakiPukul!es05:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:48
manaque tal estais pipis05:48
SpdeJhair: yep, im staring to think it has something to do whit the samba share config.. smbclient //ip/user -U spde works perfectly05:48
DJAdmiralnot working!05:48
Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  phrases like "not working" are sort of useless. :P05:48
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fcardemarina05:48
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Dr_WillisDJAdmiral,  also you dident need to 'reboot' to change to the root user. (which i think you did)05:48
fcardevioleta05:48
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ppastorolaaaaaaaaaaa cacas05:48
JhairSpde: you are right, I think I was completely missleaded :(05:48
DJAdmirali hadn't rebooted05:48
DJAdmirali logged out05:48
jadaz87oh man i love partition magic05:49
ppastorque tal estais cacas05:49
fcardevioleta05:49
Gambit-hey anyone do squid integration with clamav successfully?  What tools?  How?05:49
wvelezmana: marchate a #ubuntu-es que ahi de seguro encuentras pipis05:49
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SpdeJhair: oh, sorry about that.. you know what it is? that makes me able to brows and so but not to mount?05:49
ppastorno hableis en ingles porfi05:49
DogWaterwww.systemadminihater.com/Xorg.0.log05:49
DogWaterthats my x logfile05:50
wvelezaqui se habla ingles pisha05:50
DogWaterif anyone cares05:50
DogWater:d05:50
balmuhol05:50
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z33Dr_Willus, should I go under 'Manually edit partition table' and then select the lvm partition? I see 3 partitions, prim 1 which is windows, prim 2 which is only 107MB and is ext3 which I believe is the boot loader, and prim 3 which is lvm.05:50
Dr_Willisz33,  i never use lvm. i just use a single partition.05:50
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KakiPukulDogWater: : technically we don't, but we have ego to take care of :)05:50
juhanppastor: que necesitas?05:51
ppastorchurras05:51
Dr_Willisz33,  #2 sounds like a swap parttion. #3 sounds like your main fedora partition.05:51
_jasonDogWater: can you put /etc/X11/xorg.conf on there too?05:51
JhairSpde: could you write the *exact* command line you are using? you can replace the IP address with Xs of course.05:51
DogWateroh, well i only chose ubuntu because i heard its rad, and we want to be the first dedicated server provider to offer it as an option to our clients :D05:51
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DogWatersure _jason05:51
ppastornada nada letritas rojas05:51
nickrudDogWater: Does your xorg.conf mention PCI: (0:2:1) ? the log mentions 0:2:0 as well05:51
redguyDr_Willis: a swap partition with ext3 on it? that would be really odd05:52
juhanppastor: este canal es en ingles, lo siento05:52
Jhairppastor: don't write in spanish. stop now.05:52
KakiPukulDogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?05:52
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redguyz33: #2 is propably the /boot partition05:52
Dr_Willisredguy,  107mb - seems odd sized as well.05:52
juhanJhair: no need to get angry05:52
redguyDr_Willis: not for /boot05:52
Dr_Willisredguy,  where is his swap then? :P on the lvm?05:52
redguyDr_Willis: why not?05:52
z33red, thats what I assumed, but I am not too familiar with partitioning.05:52
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DogWaterKakiPukul: my card isnt listed05:53
Dr_Willisz33,  sounds like you can delete #2 and #305:53
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KakiPukulI810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics >> no problem with driver... just misconfigured pci location05:53
SpdeJhair: sudo smbclient //192.168.0.55/spde -U spde (works) and sudo smbmount //192.168.0.55/spde /mnt/test/ username=spde (dosnt work)05:53
rosahaalo05:53
DogWaterohh the 945 is bundled in the 81005:53
DogWatergotcha05:53
DogWaternevermind ;-005:53
xsmogxWhat would the command be to edit the host.deny and host.allow files05:53
ppastorno porfius no hableis en ingles no sabes hablar en espaol05:53
SpdeJhair: it works!05:54
DogWateris there anyway to tell if the card is actually on PCI:0:2:0 ?05:54
SpdeJhair: i had missed the -o flag05:54
KakiPukulxsmogx: : you can use any text editor, senor05:54
nickrudDogWater: lspci05:54
KakiPukulDogWater: : that's the controller location, the card is +105:54
xsmogxI would need to login as root correct?05:54
techrushprogramming is hard05:54
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z33Dr_Willis, the thing is, when I go into winXP and look at it with Partition Magic, it only shows up as 2 partitions, not to mention the #2 is labeled hda2 and #3 which is the primary fedora partition is not labeled, I believe they are connected05:54
techrushreminds me of math class :(05:54
KakiPukulBusID PCI:0:2:1 === yeah this one05:54
DogWaterit is pci 205:55
DogWaterhmm05:55
nickrudtechrush: that's why I got out of programming, I didn't want any more math :)05:55
JhairSpde: uh? cool, what was the problem?05:55
JhairSpde: oh the -o option!05:55
Dr_Willisz33,  XP likes to hide things it dont know about.05:55
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JhairSpde: :)05:55
KakiPukulDogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? tried this yet?05:55
techrushyeah i thought i was interested in it at 1st but now im having second thoughts05:55
redguyz33: PM doesn't propably know anything about LVM05:55
SpdeJhair: yeh, spend 3h on this =) sooo annoying, thanks for your help anywayy05:55
Dr_Willisz33,  boot to fedora and look at its fstab/mount command and see what partitions are where.05:55
JhairSpde: ok05:55
z33Dr_Willis, I am just worried about deleting the boot loader and losing my ability to boot into either OS, but im sure there is an option further into the installation to install ubuntu's boot loader05:56
Dr_WillisI never use partiton magic any more.. live cd + qt_parted or Gparted - works forme.05:56
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ppastorque no hableis en ingleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees05:56
nickrudtechrush: system admin takes *much* less math, and you get to mess around with programmers heads (or so I hear)05:56
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nickrud!es05:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:56
Dr_Willis!es05:56
_jasonppastor: /join #ubuntu-es05:56
Dr_Willislol05:56
Jhairppastor: I told you ONCE! stop.05:56
SpdeJhair: btw, you know how i can make it mount eveytime i boot?05:56
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DogWaterwell i went through the config and hit enter about 30 times lol05:57
DogWateri know absolutely nothing about x05:57
JhairSpde: AFAIK you need to put an entry in the /etc/fstab file05:57
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LethalSwordyay i installed cedega by myself05:57
LethalSwordhaha05:57
nickrudDogWater: pop that new xorg.conf up on a pastebin05:57
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  now ya gotta figure out how to use it.,05:57
Dr_Willis:P05:57
LethalSwordumm can anybody help me uninstalling a crossover application05:57
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KakiPukulDogWater: : X is mysterious :)05:58
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juhanLethalSword:  i thought you just need to delete the folder05:58
SpdeJhair: sorry i don't relly get that? =S05:58
LethalSwordok05:58
juhanLethalSword: but i might be wrong05:58
DogWateri like how bluetooth gives me what looks like a 'panic' or a sighup every time the box boots up ;-)05:58
LethalSwordmeh05:58
DogWaterbah its still not booting up ;-)05:58
SpdeJhair: shall i simply put the command in the /etc/fstab file?05:58
DogWatererr, it boots i mean its just not launching X05:59
fcarde05:59
JhairSpde: no you need an special format, the username and password should be put in a credentials file, see the smbmount man page for the credentials option05:59
_jasonDogWater: use VESA as the video driver and see if that at least gets you X05:59
DogWaterare the files im uploading to Sysadminihater readable to you fellas?05:59
KakiPukulVGA rocks! :)05:59
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nickrudDogWater: the log was05:59
JhairSpde: but basically you need to put //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 006:00
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SpdeJhair: what dose the 0 0 stand for? =S06:00
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jadaz87Dr_Willis it will not format it automatically whould it?06:01
juhan /join #ubuntu-es06:01
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  huh?06:01
DogWaterhttp://www.systemadminihater.com/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log06:02
DogWaterif anyone has any further cloes06:02
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DogWaterthats since i ran the reconfigure06:02
KakiPukulDogWater: : I know one good hardware-detecting distro, tried "PCLinux" before? it even detected wifi USB adapter like RT270006:02
jadaz87Dr_Willis you said that some version can automount but it whould not auto format whould it?06:02
SpdeSpde: so the user and password is in plaintext but in a "credential" file? how dose that work =S06:02
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DogWaterIf this doesnt work i might just wait until the next 6month release of buntu06:02
DogWatererr ubuntu06:02
DogWaterand stick with xppro06:02
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  you are refering to the automounting of drives by the window manager/linux ?06:03
KakiPukulXP Pro rocks...06:03
JhairSpde: those fields are not critical, the first 0 is for dumping filesystems and the second 0 is a number to identify the order the filesystems should be mounted06:03
magenetsay that again06:03
jadaz87Dr_willis yes06:03
JhairSpde: 0 0 are sane values06:03
ribaldjesteranyone here have experience with fetchmail?06:03
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  no auto-formating.06:03
nickrudDogWater: I get the wrong page with xorg.conf06:03
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DogWaternickrud: oh sorry, try now.06:04
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SpdeJhair: ok, but i dont get what a credential file is? i mean how is that protected more then just the /etc/fstab ?06:05
AshlyHow do I switch from gnome to kde? :P06:05
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casany ubuntu ircops availible?06:05
asafdsahi peeps, just trying out ubuntu and apt-get install php doesn't work06:05
kingspawnJhair: i thought the second number in fstab was for determining which filesystem is checked first (etc..) by fsck06:05
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asafdsado I need to add some other sources?06:05
_jasonAshly: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, will get you kde.  removing gnome is a bit more difficult06:05
JhairSpde: the smbmount man page recommends the use of credentials files for inclusion of the file system in /etc/fstab, I don't have a rationale for that now, but I believe the man page authors :)06:05
Dr_WillisAshly,  install kubuntu-desktop, then on the login screen theres a menu you select which one to use06:05
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jadaz87Dr_Willis thank you so much my last question is how do i know what it mounted it as the pointer name like (/, /mythtv)06:05
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  the 'mount' command tells you06:06
KakiPukulAshly:  "dpkg-reconfigure kdm"? or just logout and Select KDE and make session as default06:06
JhairSpde: as stated in the man page you can protect the file given it the right permissions (i.e. it should not be world readable).06:06
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Ashly_jason and dr_Willis, thanks, and _jason had no plans on removeing gnome :)06:06
Jhairs/given/giving06:06
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jadaz87Dr_Willis so just type mount at terminal and it will list them?06:06
SpdeJhair: so i just make a ordernaty text file that i hide and grant no access to? and link to it in the credentials=whereitis?06:06
nickrudDogWater: ok, I'm paddling over my head here, I would expect 0:2:1 to be ignored, since it's not mentioned in the xorg.conf06:06
JhairSpde: I think it is because /etc/fstab is usualy world readable06:07
JhairSpde: exactly06:07
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  it would of been faster if you had tried that. :) then asking. LOL...06:07
SpdeJhair: thanks a lot for all the help!06:07
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  try it and see. :P06:07
JhairSpde: you are welcome!06:07
asafdsain fact, a lot of the development stuff seems to be missing from the default ubuntu install :(06:07
KakiPukulasafdsa: "build-essential"06:08
jadaz87Dr_Willis i did not there is a line that says /mnt/auto is that the hd drive?06:08
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  you are using ubuntu? normally eveyrthing is in /media/06:09
LethalSwordhow do you install a game with Cedega06:09
z33If I deleted a partition and would like to install Ubuntu to that free space, do I create a new partition with that free space or do I use Auto partion the free space? If I auto partition it the 'smiley' on my winXP partition goes away, does that mean it will overwrite it?06:09
_jasonDogWater: did you try using VESA as the video driver?06:09
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DogWaterif i do a lspci it says 0000:00:02.1 display controller: intel corp: unknown device 27a6 (rev 03)06:10
jadaz87Dr_Willis no knoppmyth i was going to use ubuntu and then myth over it but i whould have an extremely hard time as you can see i am early user of linux06:10
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LethalSwordCan anybody help me how to install with Cedeg06:10
LethalSworda06:10
asafdsaKakiPukul, will that provide the links to php? apt-get install php4 would be nice.  I wondered if I need to edit the list of servers to get packages from06:10
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LethalSwordanyone?06:11
Random_Transithey...is GNOME 2.14 available in the breezy repos yet?06:11
_jasonubotu: tell asafdsa about lamp06:11
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  googling for a few of the 'mount drive linux' tutorials will explain how things work. its rather simple. :P06:11
KakiPukulthere's a lot of PHP/PHP=related packages.... you just know where to look at06:11
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  its when things start auto-mounting that it can get confusing.06:11
LethalSword!tell LethalSword about cedega06:11
JhairRandom_Transit: wasn't gnome 2.14 released until today!?06:11
andrewPCTJhair: yesterday06:12
jadaz87Dr_willis of ok06:12
Dmitrijushey Digis ;] ] 06:12
JhairandrewPCT: I wonder why Random_Transit expects breezy backports today :(06:12
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LethalSwordcan anybody help me06:12
asafdsathanks _jason and KakiPukul... just investigating06:13
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  what part of the process are youy haveing issues with?06:13
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andrewPCTJhair: i wonder why he hasn't just gone to dapper to get gnome 2.14, i think i had it in dapper on tuesday06:13
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LethalSwordumm i just dont know how to install games06:13
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Random_TransitandrewPCT...because I like stabilty06:13
KakiPukulLethalSword: how about using Windows?06:14
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  fire up cedega, use the point-to-play interface. pop in the cd. and start clicking. :P06:14
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KakiPukulheh06:14
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nickrudDogWater: if it said that, think I'd try that as my pci device in xorg.conf06:14
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andrewPCTRandom_Transit: i've been using dapper for a while now without problems06:14
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LethalSwordDr_Willis what do i click though06:14
servershow can I play .wmv on ubuntu? ;/06:14
LethalSwordcuz install isnt highlighter06:14
HymnToLife!wmv06:15
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:15
LethalSwordhighlighted*06:15
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Dr_WillisLethalSword,  i seem to recall a butotn called 'install' in the top somewhere..06:15
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LethalSwordits not highlighted06:15
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Dr_WillisLethalSword,  you did set up cedega and put in your cedega name/password and update it?06:15
Random_Transityeah, but i've heard too many horror stories about broken dapper installs06:15
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LethalSwordi havent got a name and password06:15
LethalSwordand im not paying for it06:15
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  also the cedega homepage has docs/details/examples.06:15
LethalSword:)06:15
LethalSwordill get the demo version maybe06:16
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  you are using the demo? or did you warez it?06:16
Dr_WillisIf you dont have the demo.. then you cant do any more.06:16
LethalSwordumm if i answer warez will i get kicked?06:16
zAo^lol06:16
LethalSwordok06:16
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LethalSwordill do the demo06:16
LethalSwordhow do i uninstall it then06:16
Dr_WillisYou must have a username/pass to actually use the real thing. thats the bottom line. :P06:16
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LethalSwordhaha06:16
LethalSwordno dont kick me06:16
Random_Transitlol06:17
Random_Transit^_~06:17
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Dr_WillisCedega home page - 'read docs' :P06:17
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ErPiUhi all06:17
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LethalSwordhow do i uninstall it06:18
LethalSword?06:18
Dr_Willissame as you uninstall any other package is one way.. synpatic.06:19
KakiPukuljust delete the game folder?06:19
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mephis1987_sorry06:20
mephis1987_how can i find libqt3c102-mt06:20
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mephis1987_how can i find libqt3c102-mt package06:20
Stormx2mephis1987_: What is this for, skype?06:20
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LethalSwordmark for complete removal Dr_Willis?06:20
mephis1987_yes06:20
Stormx2mephis1987_: Check the wiki06:21
rudizopera?06:21
Stormx2!skype06:21
ubotuskype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/06:21
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Dr_WillisLethalSword,  may as well. :P  ive never uninstalled it.06:21
mephis1987_ok06:21
mephis1987_thanks a lot06:21
LethalSwordok lol06:21
Stormx2Check that, the dependancies are broken on the package released by skype06:21
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Stormx2!tell rudiz about opera06:21
porky_scratchinghow do I reg a name in irc?06:21
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Stormx2porky_scratching: /msg nickserv help register06:22
LethalSwordwhere do i go for the demo06:22
Stormx2porky_scratching: Basicly, its just "/msg nickserv register <pass here>"06:23
kingspawnLethalSword: start using google, it's got an answer for almost everything.06:23
Dr_WillisLethalSword, ------->  Cedega home page. The answer to all your Cedega needs06:23
LethalSwordim looking06:23
LethalSwordbut only finding stuff to subscribe06:23
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SpdeJhair: in the line //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 0 what dose smbfs stand for??06:24
porky_scratchingStormx2: got it thnx06:24
jadaz87Dr_Willis do you know of any utility where i whould be able to convert from fat32 to ext3 without losing all data?06:24
Stormx2Also LethalSword, ask in #cedega...06:24
LethalSwordi got kicked from there06:24
kingspawnyou dont say06:24
Stormx2Spde: Samba Filesystem06:24
baboHi guys, I just came and found my harddrive blazing and strange things happening to my bash prompt. I think I might have been hacked ... how can I check ?06:24
Stormx2LethalSword: Why? :P06:25
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JhairSpde: is the filesystem type06:25
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baboIs there any plausible reason for something like that ... root or user don't have any crontabs ?06:25
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kingspawnbabo: whats your memory usage like? does ps -aux show anything unusal? what do the logs say?06:26
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Dr_Willisjadaz87,  qtparted/gparted can do that I do belive.06:26
pjvanyone here used xvidcap?06:26
LethalSwordStormx2 because i asked for a cedega trial crack :P06:26
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  best to backup your data however.06:26
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SpdeJhair: why do you leave out smbmount? =S06:26
Stormx2LethalSword: Rofl06:26
Dr_WillisGee. i could of guessed that.06:26
Stormx2LethalSword: Pirate Bay dude... but really, that was stupid06:27
babokingspawn: I killed the process ... ps aux will only show current processes yes ?06:27
asafdsathanks for ur help chaps06:27
LethalSwordi searched pirate bay but no crack06:27
LethalSword:P06:27
Dr_WillisProberly after they told him 100 times to go read the docs also...06:27
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kingspawnbabo: yes. what process did you kill? and what about the logs?06:27
takedown!lt06:27
JhairSpde: AFAIK mount alone can do exactly the same as smbmount :). the filesystems specified in /etc/fstab are mounted with mount alone06:27
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown06:27
LethalSwordwhat are the variables i type after tar to extract a tar file06:27
kingspawnLethalSword: man tar - an excellent resource06:28
SpdeJhair: AFAIK mount??? =S06:28
Dr_Willisgoogle 'tar tutorial'06:28
JhairSpde: I mean I think you can mount samba shares using only mount06:28
JhairSpde: there is the "smbmount" command, and the "mount" command06:28
Dr_Willismount -t smbfs06:28
JhairSpde: exactly what Dr_Willis now said06:28
gopiI am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8.....06:28
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gopihow do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system06:29
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gopiAnd when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic06:29
SpdeJhair: now im really confused =) so i only need to specify the file system typ (samba) in the etc/fstab file?06:30
LethalSwordis it tar -xvcf06:30
LethalSword???06:30
kingspawnLethalSword: what happens when you try that on your tar file?06:30
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JhairSpde: yes, you don't need to specify the command at all. I think the first line I send you is correct06:30
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LethalSwordnothing06:31
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gopiSo can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???06:31
LethalSwordhaha06:31
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kingspawnLethalSword: is it just a .tar file or a tar.gz file?06:31
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RQhi  everyone06:31
LethalSwordjust tar06:31
kingspawnthen xvf should do it06:31
O_Rei_do_Gadohow can i install vmware tools on ubuntu?06:32
_jasonLethalSword: c is for create :)06:32
snowblink!tell LethalSword about tar06:32
gopiI am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8..... how do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system.....And when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic.......So can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???06:32
kingspawn"e(x)tract (v)erbose (f)ile"06:32
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babokingspawn: I've checked a few of the logs ... apache, mysql, snort ... there's nothing there that's strange06:32
bdashWhen I try to upadate I get "W: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/Whatever the package is" message for each package? Help?06:32
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RQi'm trying to setup SMTP AUTH with TLS, and something obviously doesn't work. After issuing STARTTLS, the server just sits in the corner quietly06:32
JemtOMG - is it just me or does network support really suck in Dapper? It only found one of my two wireless network cards (I got two) and I can't make it work. I finds the network when I broadcast the SSID - but I don't get an IP. Everything works perfect in Breezy. Can anyone please help me? I fear this problem will exist in the final release of Dapper which will force me to stick with Breezy :-((06:32
RQany ideas?06:32
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nickrudgopi: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) will get the headers for your running kernel06:32
Dr_Willisbdash,  sounds like the server is down.06:32
JhairO_Rei_do_Gado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu?highlight=%28qemu%29%7C%28vmware%2906:33
snowblink!tell Jemt about dapper06:33
gopinickrud: Thank you...06:33
bdashDr_Willis: Anywhere I can check server status?06:33
RQJemt dapper is alpha software. what's so weird about it not working?06:33
Dr_Willisbdash, no idea. try pinging it?06:33
baboKingspawn: I didn't really even check properly what process it was ... it looked like bash was returning itself a couple of times and then spiting out bits of code ... I just killed it straight away ...06:33
nickrudgopi: just cut and paste that :)06:33
JemtRQ, It's flight5 - it's gonna be released next month!06:33
RQbdash apt-get update06:33
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RQJemt there's a lot to fix before the next month, i think ;)06:34
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baboI'll power it down now and boot it up on security auditor tomorrow and check for any rootkits ... maybe I should just format the whole thing ??06:34
gopinickrud: yes thanks :)06:34
JhairRQ: alpha software looks very different than the current Dapper state, I am sure...06:34
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seroxati just installed ubuntu on my machine but it fails to start X because "no screens found"06:34
RQJhair well i'm using dapper at home. it's very unstable if you ask me06:35
kingspawnbabo: have you got an ssh server running? other stuff?06:35
RQJhair for example, rhythmbox crashes very often06:35
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RQseroxat try reconfiguring the x server06:35
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seroxatRQ: how?06:35
JemtRQ, Hopefully! The primary reason why I move to a new distribution is when a new version is released and it is not compatible with my system any more06:35
bdashRQ: Everything seems to work through apt-get update but when I use the software update I still get that error. ?.?06:36
RQsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf06:36
JhairRQ: rhythmbox crashes for me in breezy...06:36
RQsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:36
nazgulwalkeranyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?06:36
RQbdash maybe the packages haven't hit the server yet?06:36
O_Rei_do_Gadowhat is the best way to install wine is form synaptic?06:36
baboI have ssh, four perl sockets, nessus, apache, www, dhclient, cupsd06:36
_jasonO_Rei_do_Gado: enable universe and do: sudo aptitude install wine06:36
RQO_Rei_do_Gado just search for "wine" and check it for installation06:36
O_Rei_do_Gadook06:36
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baboI think it may have been a perl process running06:37
bdashRQ: Could be. Is there a news site that has updates on the various ubuntu servers?06:37
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z33Should I create seperate partitions to be mounted to /home and /, or can I just mount one partition to / and install ubuntu onto that?06:37
kingspawnz33: the choice is yours06:38
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z33king, are there benefits of doing it a certain way or just personal preference?06:38
juhanz33: i recomend separate06:38
obliAnyone know hoe I get my extra mouse buttons to work?06:38
babossh should be locked down on my router though ... I'll check ...06:38
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RQbdash i don't think you need a news server just for that06:38
nickrudz33: but separate partitions are a great idea06:38
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obli*how06:38
RQz33.home separate has some bebnefits06:38
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RQ(sorry for typos_)06:39
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_jason!mouse06:39
ubotumouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev06:39
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LethalSwordanybody know where to get a full working copy of cedega06:39
oblithanks06:39
z33How should the size distribution be? 60% space goes to /home and 40% goes to /? Or how would I decide on that?06:39
kingspawnz33: separate /home have the same benefits as keeping your games separated from your system in windows06:39
_jasonLethalSword: http://www.transgaming.com/06:39
LethalSwordhaha _jason06:39
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_jason?06:40
juhanz33 how much space do you have?06:40
nickrudz33: 8-10GB on / is plenty, put the rest into home06:40
bdashRQ: Cheers.06:40
RQz33 i think it's enough to le say six gigz for /, and everything else to /home06:40
nickrudz33: with a bit for swap06:40
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RQs/le/leave/06:40
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z33juhan, I have 10.1 GB to partition for Ubuntu, I have 1 GB of RAM and someone reccommended RAM x2 for swap size so I put 2 GB for swap, so I have 8.1 GB left over06:40
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RQbdasry a us server06:41
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RQbah06:41
RQbdash: try a us server06:41
_jasonz33: you don't need all that swap06:41
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z33_jason, how much do reccommend?06:41
LethalSwordis there any Cedega alternative?06:41
O_Rei_do_Gadobut wine from synaptic is not new version....06:41
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RQz33 one gig for swap is more than enough06:42
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nickrudz33: and with that small a drive, 6gb for / is a better idea, more space four you.06:42
LethalSwordis there any06:42
z33RQ, thanks06:42
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mikebotwhat is the search command, like apt-get search or something06:42
RQit actually depends on how hard you press on ram06:42
nickrudmikebot: ?06:42
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mikebotnickrud: to search packages in terminal06:42
nickrudmikebot: erm, apt-cache search06:42
mikebotnickrud: ah thanks06:42
O_Rei_do_GadoRQ:  but wine from synaptic is not new version....06:42
nickrudmikebot: first cut, I though that's what you wrote :)06:43
LethalSwordanybody know06:43
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RQO_Rei_do_Gado you didn't ask for a NEW version, did you?06:43
O_Rei_do_GadoRQ can i install frm sources?06:43
mikebotnickrud: hehe06:43
O_Rei_do_Gadosorry rq06:43
nickrudLethalSword: dual booting06:43
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_jasonz33: with 1gb of ram you'll probably almost never go into swap, 1gb is plenty.  I have 1gb with 512mb of ram and think it's a waste of space06:43
juhanz33 that's a lot of swap, i would leave it at 1gb and then it gets tricky... probably 5 gb for / and the rest for home06:43
LethalSwordnickrud i meant a linux program06:43
LethalSwordi had windows and got badly hacked06:43
RQO_Rei_do_Gado yes you can. but i prefer .debs06:43
mikebotnickrud: thanks, cya06:44
nickrudLethalSword: I keep windows around for what little gaming I do, and don't have the net come up06:44
O_Rei_do_Gadowhat i need to instal from sources?06:44
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ChodderO_Rei_do_Gado, bild essentials06:44
LethalSwordbut there is no other program?06:44
Chodderbuild*06:44
RQO_Rei_do_Gado check winehq.com or sth/06:44
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RQyou need a C compiler and some libs06:45
nazgulwalkeranyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?06:45
Chodderapt-get install build-essentials06:45
O_Rei_do_Gadois that Getting source packages from the repository?06:45
ChodderI think06:45
RQif you have enabled source repos, you may try sudo apt-get build-deps wine06:45
RQor sth06:45
RQapt-get --help for more info06:45
nickrudLethalSword: none that I ever found worth the hassle: wine & cedega, & too expensive: vmware & too inadequate: qemu06:45
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Stalwart!w32codecs06:46
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:46
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Dr_Willisgames are for the weak!06:47
serverswhen I play .wmv I can only hear sound no image y is this happening?06:47
RQservers:06:47
Dr_Willisservers,  codec issues.06:47
RQ!w32codecs06:47
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:47
kujaubotu: mp306:47
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ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:48
RQget this and install it06:48
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_jasonservers: what player?06:48
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servers_jason totem06:48
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_jasonservers: install totem-xine from unvirse and see ubotu's link above for w32codecs06:49
LethalSwordcan DirectX be installed on Ubuntu06:49
robinl1why do my gnome apps take so long to start up?06:49
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batmanhello has anyone here ever gotten quake 3 arena demo to work? every time i download a demo its a .gz.sh extension06:49
juhani don't know why but my x server keeps crashing06:49
serversI already installed the codecs06:49
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juhani just lost sound and now everything will start collapsing06:49
LethalSwordDr_willis cant it install?06:49
juhan:(06:49
juhanbye06:49
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LethalSwordso that u can run games through crossover06:50
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Dr_Willisservers,  thers dozens of codecs. try vlc, and xine, and mplayer, run them fromt he shell.. check their log/messages06:50
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  you are refering to 'CrossOverOffice' ?06:50
LethalSwordyes06:50
Enthusiast78LethalSword, Look for WineX in http://www.winehq.com/06:50
LethalSwordthanks06:50
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LethalSwordand it runs games Enthusiast78?06:51
Dr_Williswinex - was the old name for Cedega :P06:51
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Dr_Willisunless i am confused06:51
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nazgulwalkeranyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?06:51
Enthusiast78LethalSword, Precisely. ;)06:51
LethalSwordok06:51
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void^LethalSword: just use windows for games that require it.06:51
nickrudLethalSword: I understand your intent, but windows gaming on linux is a losing proposition except for those who know wine inside and out06:51
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Enthusiast78Anyone can tell me how do I change the default text editor from nano to vi? I'm having a bad time whenever I have to 'crontab -e'... :(06:52
Dr_WillisCedega does a very good job - with some games.. but still native windows is the way to go.06:52
nickrudDr_Willis: no, you're not :)06:52
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Dr_Willisnickrud,  thats a First! :p06:52
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nickrudEnthusiast78: sudo update-alternatives --config editor06:52
Enthusiast78nickrud, Thanks!06:52
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LethalSwordEnthusiast78 i cant find anything on it06:53
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Enthusiast78LethalSword, Lemme check the exact URL for ya...06:53
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LethalSwordok thanks06:53
O_Rei_do_Gadook i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/06:54
O_Rei_do_Gadofrom apt line06:54
O_Rei_do_Gadook i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/06:54
O_Rei_do_Gadoand check the wine new version06:54
malikyodoes anyone know if the video of the iMac turned out to be real?06:54
O_Rei_do_Gadoat the moment is downloading the file06:54
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kitchenI've rtfm + stfw and I'm not having any love from wpa_supplicant either wep or wpa.  iwconfig "standard" config works np.  anyone got ideas?06:54
O_Rei_do_GadoRQ:  it install auto from ap line?06:55
O_Rei_do_Gadoafter downloading...?06:55
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Enthusiast78LethalSword, I think www.transgaming.com is the site with winex info, but I'll still check for the exact URL...06:56
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stianis it not called cedega? winex?06:57
tombshi all06:57
kiphi06:57
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polpakstian, it is06:57
stianGreetings06:57
kipi want to ask06:57
stianpolpak, good, then I haven't missed anything :)06:57
stiankip, shoot06:57
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kipis its dangerousd to close ubuntu by the power off button on the machine06:58
pc15001hola06:58
pc15001que tal06:58
O_Rei_do_Gadool pc06:58
nazgulwalkerwhere can i reach PATH's file ?06:58
polpakkip, depends on what fs you use..06:58
AndiMkip: if ACPI is configured correctly, then it should work fine06:58
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O_Rei_do_Gadoola pc1500106:58
stiankip: that really depends. if you computer is working on something, and writing to the disk, you might end up having to reformat06:58
nickrudnazgulwalker: env | sort shows it06:58
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_jasonnazgulwalker: you mean the file where the PATH environment variable is set?06:59
kipbeacuse yesterday i closed it by on /off06:59
AndiMkip: (just make sure you don't use the >= 4 seconds "emergency power-off" ;)06:59
polpakstian, not if you use ext3 or another journalling fs06:59
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kipandil thats what i used06:59
LethalSwordEnthusiast78 pm me the link please06:59
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Storkmeno one EVER use scratchtelecom for webhosting/dedicated servers/vps06:59
Absenthis there a CLI command I can issue on Breezy that will tell me which processor is running in my laptop?06:59
stianpolpak, weel, if you do it while writing a new kernel you might be in trouble :P06:59
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_jasonAbsenth: cat /proc/cpuinfo07:00
kipbeacuse it was in hibernate and it didnt want to be on07:00
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polpakkip, it should be fine07:00
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kipand this moring it beeped at the loading07:00
Enthusiast78LethalSword, This is THE thing: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php07:00
nazgulwalker_jason yes07:00
kipand it didnt find my hd07:00
Absenth_jason, Thanks.  got an Old P2 Notebook, but had no idea what speed the P2 was07:00
Enthusiast78LethalSword, You'll probably have to 'agree' to a license first...07:01
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nazgulwalkerwhere can i change my PATH variable?07:01
Dr_Willisand read :P07:01
nazgulwalkerwhere can i change my PATH variable? and set new PATH as default07:01
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Dr_Willisnazgulwalker,  .bashrc .bash_profile or system widew in /etc/profile07:01
polpakkip, was it the bios that was complaining, or grub?07:01
_jasonnazgulwalker: when you login to gnome, it's set in /etc/login.defs, otherwise /etc/profile07:01
Enthusiast78LethalSword, But then the page with CVS download and install instructions will be shown...07:01
Dr_Willisnazgulwalker,  pick one. :P07:01
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kipand is it normal that my windows is awfully slow now07:01
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nazgulwalkerthanks07:01
kipgrub i think07:01
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Dr_Williskip,  installing Linux - should have no effect on your windows installl.07:02
kipwhats the grub07:02
MetaMorfoziS!grub07:02
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:02
kipwell the windows now is damn slow07:02
Dr_WillisGRUB is the bootloader/menu that lets you pick what os to boot.07:02
O_Rei_do_Gadocedega is only for games?07:02
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, more or less07:02
O_Rei_do_Gadocan it run some apps?07:03
robinl1..07:03
robinl1wtf07:03
O_Rei_do_Gadolike wine...07:03
robinl1lots of people flashed offline07:03
robinl1on lots of servers07:03
AbsenthO_Rei_do_Gado, well,  it "can" run things that aren't games, but it's not nearly as good as basic Wine, or Crossover Office.07:03
stianO_Rei_do_Gado, you can, but their goal is to make it run games as best as possible07:03
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, and with the rate wine is progressing there's not a whole lot of advantages to cedega anyway07:03
robinl1at the same time!07:03
kipwill07:03
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Dr_WillisCedega can run apps and games.07:03
Absenthpolpak, wine supports DX now?07:03
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kipit was when ubuntu started loading07:03
Enthusiast78O_Rei_do_Gado, The purpose of WineX (or Cedega) is to emulate DirectX. You better go with plain wine if you want to run 'regular' (no-DirectX) apps.07:04
polpakAbsenth, yes,07:04
O_Rei_do_Gadocedega works to turn the games on the top!07:04
polpakAbsenth, not fully, but enough to get by for many things07:04
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polpakAbsenth, and the level of support depends on the DX version07:04
O_Rei_do_Gadoif does the applications run on the top too...07:04
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O_Rei_do_Gadocause system core is completely updated...07:04
Absenthpolpak, I see.  been using cedega since it changed names from WineX07:05
wastrelubuntu07:05
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obliThere's a plugin for GIMP that makes it look like photoshop, right?07:05
AbsenthO_Rei_do_Gado, I use Crossover Office from Codeweavers for non-3d applications.  I'm sure Wine would do a great job, but, Xover is just darn easy07:05
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Dr_Willisobli,  i recall a variant that rearanged the menus..07:05
Absenthobli, "GimpShop" is what you're looking for.07:05
AndiMobli: GimpShop. Mac only, AFAIK.07:05
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flocks\j ##c07:06
flocksoups07:06
AbsenthAndiM, Nope, Windows, and linux flavors out there now too.07:06
O_Rei_do_Gadocrossover is comercial and payed...07:06
oblidang07:06
polpakAbsenth, I prefer wine from the perspective of their design goals anyway. The whole cedega thing is kinda wack. They just patch things up in order to get the games with the most votes working even if it borks older games07:06
Dr_WillisI thoght i tried gimpshop under linux.07:06
O_Rei_do_Gadocedega too07:06
obliDr_Willis, yes, that's the one07:06
obliI'm totally lost in GIMP :(07:06
polpakAbsenth, so in many cases you have to have different cedega versions installed to play all your games07:06
AbsenthO_Rei_do_Gado, I have no problem with paying for a product that does what I want, and doesn't require me to pull out any additional hair :)07:06
O_Rei_do_Gadowine is totally free...07:06
AbsenthIt is.07:06
Dr_WillisHeck with PC games.. go get a Gamecube. :P07:07
O_Rei_do_Gadobut much bugs,,,07:07
AbsenthI'm sure I could make wine do what I want it to also.07:07
kipgc = best07:07
Absenthbut I refuse to go grey any faster then I already am.  Xover is just darn easy.07:07
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I wouldn't say wine has a lot of bugs07:07
Dr_WillisGetting where copy protection of PC games are nasty...07:07
O_Rei_do_Gadowine is very unstable versus crossover07:07
z33I just installed Ubuntu and it finished Stage 1 of the installation, I took the CD out and it rebooted and came to the Grub screen with a grub> prompt. Does that mean I installed grubbed to the wrong spot?07:07
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, Xover just makes configuring and installing apps much easier than it is w/ default wine07:07
nickrudDr_Willis: lol, no windows! why didn't I think of that07:07
O_Rei_do_Gadowhat is Xover?07:07
AbsenthCrossover07:08
Absenthoffice07:08
O_Rei_do_Gadoah ok07:08
kipwillis07:08
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kipi have two drive one with win2k one with ubuntu07:08
kipwhy my win2k is damn slow07:09
O_Rei_do_Gadothe is some 3rd parties like winetools, to install much things07:09
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O_Rei_do_Gadodid you know 3rd parties like winetools?07:09
Dr_Williskip,  prove its linux's fault.. remove the linux hd. and see..07:09
kipbefore i had ubuntu it was fast07:09
O_Rei_do_Gadomore 3rd parties...07:09
O_Rei_do_Gado?07:09
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I've used winetools07:09
z33Anyone know why I am stuck at the Grub screen after finishing stage 1 of Ubuntu installation?07:09
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, it works pretty well07:09
DigitalLFwhats the name for the kernel modules for pcmcia?07:09
Dr_Williskip,  you dident reformat the drive with the swap file did ya?07:09
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak07:09
kipwillis it tries to access the D07:09
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak but runs an error on system odbc07:10
Dr_Williskip,  sound s like windows is being stupid. :P07:10
kipyeah07:10
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Dr_Williskip,  disable D: in the device manager or whatever its called.07:10
kipi might format the two drive to put ubuntu only07:10
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak you use odbc in wine?07:10
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polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I haven't tried yet no07:10
O_Rei_do_Gadook07:10
Dr_Williskip,  thats an even better idea07:10
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I mostly work with mysql and postgresql databases07:10
O_Rei_do_Gadoi need to repair system odbc...07:11
kipbut i dont know how to format the ubuntu one07:11
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kipbeacuse it has ubuntu on it07:11
O_Rei_do_Gadoi never tryed mysql , postgreesql07:11
polpakkip, the installer for ubuntu will let you format your drives07:11
x_orAnyone know of a good ISO linux recovery system?  I tried trinity and it just won't boot properly for me.  I need to repartition my drive after a kernel update.07:11
Dr_Williskip,  if its allready installed - you dont need to reinstall.07:11
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nickrudDigitalLF: the pcmcia kernel modules are part of the stock kernel in ubuntu, iirc07:11
kipwillis i want to move it07:11
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak: mysql is simple to use?07:11
kipbeacuse it not on the 20gb07:12
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, yes07:12
kipits on the 6gb07:12
O_Rei_do_Gadocan i use via odbc, ado ?07:12
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, postgreSQL has more features though (similiar to what you'd get with an enterprise level DB)07:12
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, odbc is supported by both mysql and postgreSQL07:12
O_Rei_do_Gadogreat07:12
wastrelodbc eh07:12
jimcooncatcasting my vote for postgresql07:12
O_Rei_do_Gadopostgreesql is free?07:12
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, yes07:13
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O_Rei_do_Gadoand more powerfull tha mysql?07:13
nickrudx_or: damn small linux (about 50M)07:13
x_ornickrud: Does it have a partitioner?07:13
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, has more features like views, transactions, paging, stored proceedures, etc07:13
nickrudx_or: it'll have cfdisk, at the least07:13
kipdsl is amazing07:13
O_Rei_do_Gadook i will try .07:13
x_orOk, but that will destroy all the data, no?  Does it do non-destructive partioning?07:14
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nickrudx_or: no, it doesn't do non-destructive07:14
HymnToLifex_or> what exactly do you want to do ?07:14
polpakx_or, you want either parted or gparted for a graphical front end07:14
Goldfischx_or: I always keep knoppix around as a rescue CD>07:14
nickrudx_or: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html07:15
x_orHymnToLife:  I updated a ubuntu machine and I think it moved /boot outside of an area which grub could access.  So, I need to repartion, but don't want to lose my data.07:15
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x_orDoes the ubuntu live CD have gparted or parted?07:15
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kipwhats diffrent about kubuntu07:15
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nickrudx_or: both, dsl has parted according to the list07:15
LiveCDhi07:15
HymnToLifex_or> the /boot partition needs to be at the very beginning of the drive07:16
Goldfischkip: Based on KDE instead of GNOME.07:16
GigaClonkip, kubuntu has KDE instead of GNOME07:16
kipjust that?07:16
x_orYep, and I think this was the problem.07:16
GigaClon!kubuntu07:16
uboturumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:16
no_gatez_fan? i have my display in monitor adjusted all the way to the left, and it still needs to be adjusted a tad left still, anywhere i can move it over futher...or see what monitor driver and video card driver is loaded? (base system installed only)07:16
x_ornickrud: OK, will check out dsl.07:16
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wastrelno_gatez_fan:  try xvidtune07:17
no_gatez_fanfrom a ssh?07:17
LiveCDmy brother's FAT32 filesystem seems to have failed. i'm currently using the Ubuntu Live CD on his computer. how can i recover files from the filesystem?07:17
wastrelno_gatez_fan:  you mean from a command line?07:18
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Dr_WillisLiveCD,  got a spare pc networked?07:18
no_gatez_fanyewa07:18
no_gatez_fanyes07:18
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak postgreesql had ide?07:18
LiveCDDr_Willis, yes. the spare pc is running the full Ubuntu Breezy07:18
O_Rei_do_Gadoor is only by commadn line?07:18
wastrelyes xvidtune is run at the command line07:19
Dr_WillisLiveCD,  make a samba share on it. and mount/copy the files over to it.07:19
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, there are some graphical database administration tools yes07:19
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, or you can use command line07:19
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O_Rei_do_Gadoi like grafical07:19
GoldfischLiveCD: If you have a flash drive, another option is to mount it and copy off to flash.07:19
kipcan i control remotly on windows machine?07:19
O_Rei_do_Gadolike access07:19
O_Rei_do_Gado:)07:19
Goldfischkip: vnc07:19
kiphuh?07:19
Goldfisch!vnc07:19
ubotuhmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html07:19
Dr_Williskip,  i tend to use VNC for that task07:19
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LiveCDDr_Willis, but in /dev, there is only a hda, not a hda1. when i try to boot my brother's computer using the hard drive. it says "Operating System not found".07:20
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nazgulwalkercan someone help me to find file drscheme for ubuntu AMD64??07:20
LiveCDGoldfisch, read last post07:20
GoldfischLiveCD: I thought you were running his machine from the Live CD?07:20
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak: http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/ what is the link to use that 1st on windows?07:21
tylerwhy is it that an avi file cannot be played .. only thing that appears is....rainbow colored screen07:21
Dr_WillisLiveCD,  could be the HD is totally messed.07:21
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I don't understand the question07:21
O_Rei_do_Gadowhat is the link i chosse07:21
O_Rei_do_Gado?07:21
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O_Rei_do_Gadohttp://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/07:21
O_Rei_do_Gadothere many...07:22
nickrudnazgulwalker: according to packages.ubuntu.com, it's in universe on the amd6407:22
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GoldfischLiveCD: The basics are: 1) boot up the machine from some live CD, be it ubuntu, dsl, knopiix, whatever. 2) mount the "bad" hard drive 3) either copy the files to another networked machine or to a locally mounted flash drive. 4) power down 5) replace hard drive07:22
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kipwillis07:22
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, are you installing on ubuntu?07:23
O_Rei_do_Gadoafter i tryed in windows07:23
Dr_Williskip07:23
kiphow can i access my c:07:23
O_Rei_do_Gadowith odbc tests07:23
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, oh07:23
kipit wont show my hda07:23
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, then you want the win32 version07:23
O_Rei_do_Gadoyes fisrt,,,07:23
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O_Rei_do_Gadook07:24
O_Rei_do_Gadoi have07:24
nickrud!enter07:24
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:24
Dr_Williskip,  use 'mount' to see if its mounte, and 'fdisk -l' to see what partitions are on it.. and perhaps mounti it manually if you need to07:24
O_Rei_do_Gado21m07:24
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k31thAnyone looking for webhosting or a remote box running ubuntu or any other distro 99.9% uptime07:24
kipwillis slowly07:24
polpakO_Rei_do_Gado, I don't use windows, so I can't really help with the install of it on that platform. But if you have questions once it's installed I can try to help07:24
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pjzdoes ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup?07:24
tomekluhi all07:25
O_Rei_do_Gadook polpak07:25
kipim just starting in linux07:25
O_Rei_do_Gadothanks polpak!07:25
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dv_hm is there an editor that supports workspaces?07:25
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andrekip your not the only one i started lastweek07:26
Goldfischkip: To read the details for any of these commands people throw at you, there are online manual pages. Type "man <command", and you will get details. So when people mention "mount" and "fdisk", you can always later look up "man mount" and "man fdisk" to re-read what they were talking about.07:26
gopiWhat does this command do? sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./07:26
dv_not only multi-file support, but also workspaces that contain which files are opened? like the projects in quanta07:26
O_Rei_do_Gadoat the moment polpak i use ms access database :(07:26
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Remenicdid something change about iptables?07:26
redguydv_: kate?07:26
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LethalSwordEnthusiast78 did you find the link?07:26
Remenicit says that no modules are loaded for iptables... it worked before I rebooted!07:26
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redguydv_: kate has sessions07:26
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak: 5 or 6 year using msaccess database07:26
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nickrudgopi: it moves the file from your home directory to the directory you're working in07:26
LethalSword!winex07:26
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LethalSword07:26
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mlalkakahighvoltage, i'm LiveCD07:27
dv_oh cool thanks07:27
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dv_and, some non-kde ones? :)07:27
gopinickrud: ok thx07:27
dv_some machines here dont have kde07:27
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Kezzerwooo, I'm now working from Ubuntu, now I just need to get XGL installed, although I doubt I'll succeed07:27
Dr_Williswinex is the old name for Cedega07:27
highvoltagemlalkaka: you are?07:27
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nickrud!xgl07:28
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/07:28
highvoltagemlalkaka: I'm a human.07:28
nickrudKezzer: xgl isn't hard, the link should work for you07:28
kip!mount07:28
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:28
redguyKezzer: xgl is only available in dapper, join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions07:28
warthawgspeaking of hard, what is the best solution for running 32 bit apps on ubu 64?07:28
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mlalkakahighvoltage, lol. i mean that there is another person in this channel named LiveCD, but that is the same person as me.07:29
kipim lost07:29
no_gatez_fanwastrel/ is says cannot open display07:29
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nickrudwarthawg: running 32bit apps from inside a chroot07:29
LethalSword!tell lethalsword about winex07:29
Linuxhelphi guys does anyone knows why swat in ubuntu do not work??07:29
andremy partitions are on my desktop but how do i change permissions when i attempt to access it, give me a permissions stuff07:29
jimcooncatmlalkaka, I think I'm dyslescksik now07:29
highvoltagemlalkaka: aah07:29
wastrelno_gatez_fan:  you're running X?  or just console07:30
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warthawgnickrud:  yechhh07:30
kiplinuxhelp07:30
no_gatez_fantried it both ways wastrel07:30
kipits linux not windows07:30
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mlalkakaDr_Willis, so is it possible to recover files from the damaged filesystem?07:30
warthawgwhat do you need, kip07:30
LethalSword!windows games07:30
ubotuLethalSword: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:30
LethalSworddoes anybody know the download link for winex?07:30
Linuxhelphaha07:31
dv_LethalSword, it costs07:31
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dv_its not free07:31
void^LethalSword: winex is cedega07:31
Dr_Willismlalkaka,  of course its 'possible' - but  may not be easy07:31
GigaClongoogle is your friend07:31
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jimcooncat!cedega07:31
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  winex is the old name for cegedg07:31
Linuxhelpon debian install is easy07:31
LethalSwordis there a free alternative?07:31
dv_no07:31
void^LethalSword: wine07:31
redguyyes, wine07:31
dv_wine is not suited for games07:31
warthawgi would really like to watch march madness on cbssports online, anyone doing that on ubuntu?07:31
mlalkakaDr_Willis, do you know how?07:31
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LethalSwordwine can play games?07:31
void^dv_: windows is suited for windows games07:31
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GigaClonwine can play some games07:31
dv_void^, try playing 3d games with it07:31
wastrelno_gatez_fan:  xvidtune should work if you run it from X, perhaps you need to use sudo07:31
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Dr_Willismlalkaka,  depends on the file system you are trying to recover.07:31
LethalSwordvoid^ can wine play windows games?07:31
bkfquit07:31
GigaClonlike minesweeper07:32
mlalkakaDr_Willis, fat3207:32
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void^dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows07:32
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no_gatez_fanwastrel/ i giv it a shot07:32
Dr_Willisthe latest wine can play Many of the new games i hear.07:32
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GigaClonLethalSword, which games?07:32
void^LethalSword: i play hearts of iron 2 with it07:32
kipwarth07:32
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kiplook your pm07:32
Dr_Willismlalkaka,  google for 'fat32 recovery linux' - would be a start07:32
LethalSwordso i can play windows games with 3d acceleration07:32
LethalSword?07:32
dv_<void^> dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows <- ahem07:32
Chodderlol07:32
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  depends on the game.07:32
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Chodderi was questioning that myself07:33
warthawgkip i don't have any pm from you07:33
kipin irc'07:33
void^dv_: okay, the really badly coded ones don't ever run fine07:33
LethalSwordcan i install direct on linux through crossover office?07:33
LethalSworddirectx?07:33
p01n7OmegaAlpha, whats up07:33
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nazgulwalkercan someone send me /etc/apt/sources.list who use amd64 ubuntu 5.10 breezy , and have no problem with apt-get(Thanks);07:33
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  you do NOT install 'directx' :P07:33
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ChodderWineX07:33
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  but if you really want to.. go ahead and try...07:33
_jasonubotu: tell nazgulwalker about easysource07:33
gnomefreakLethalSword: you use wine and run it with whatever else your running07:33
dv_but try playing deus ex 2, or half life 2, doom 3, battlefield 2, X 3, deus ex 1, unreal 2, fear, system shock 2, avp2 in wine07:33
void^LethalSword: seriously, don't try running your windows 3d games or whatever on linux when you're new to linux.07:34
dv_you need cedega for those, not wine07:34
LethalSwordbut i wanna play my gaaames07:34
LethalSwordand cedega costs money07:34
dv_i want to see fear working with wine07:34
void^dv_: look at what i said?07:34
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Dr_WillisLethalSword,  so....07:34
Chodderdv_, you can play HL2 in wine07:34
gnomefreakLethalSword: dual boot ;)07:34
_jasonLethalSword: either load windows or buy cedega07:34
thelsdjis there a jabber client in ubuntu repositories that can subscribe to other network gateway transports? (yes i know i can use gaim to be on multiple networks, but i have to test jabber transports for work)07:34
ChodderYou just need to set it up correctly07:34
dv_void^, its not bad code07:34
warthawgthere you go, naz07:34
LethalSwordif i get windows ill be hacked again07:34
warthawgnazgulwalker, that is07:34
dv_wine does not have shader support, it lacks dx907:34
nazgulwalkerthank you very much07:35
LethalSwordlol the directx setup just froze07:35
gnomefreakLethalSword: what stopping people from hacking you now?07:35
dv_LethalSword, thats why I dualboot07:35
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  quit runnign the junk that gets you hazored in windows.07:35
Chodderdv_, If I can play CS source in normal wine with a few mods done to it, im sure I could play HL207:35
dv_even with cedega many games dont run ok07:35
void^dv_: no, i said < void^> dv_: windows is suited for windows games, you replied with < dv_> void^, try playing 3d games with it <- some misunderstanding there07:35
LethalSwordi wasnt running anything hazordous Dr_Willis07:35
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dv_void^, well ok, most 2d games run fine07:35
kipseem too that itd yes lethal07:36
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Dr_WillisLethalSword,  sure.... whatever.. :P i bet you updated everything all the time as well.07:36
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GigaClonyour running windows LethalSword thats hazardous enough07:36
dv_but if someone wants to play windows games, on most occasions they mean 3d games07:36
kipdr most ppl dont do it07:36
dv_good old adventures are dead :/07:36
LethalSwordDr_willis i did update07:36
p01n7 zuokanyunqi, why do you join IRC as root?07:36
gnomefreaksp2 had a bunch of holes in it ;)07:36
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  looks like you got some Tough Choices to make.07:36
LethalSwordyea07:36
kipGC dont say that07:36
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void^dv_: "windows is suited for windows games" i said windows, not wine.07:36
kipdr07:36
ChodderI couldn't get chessmaster run good in wine but I could get CS Source running good07:36
GigaClonI dual boot07:36
LethalSwordkeep linux and play no games or install windows and risk getting hacked again07:37
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Dr_WillisChessmaster :P lol.07:37
GigaClonyou can play games in linux07:37
kingspawnI see no reason to struggle so immensely to get games to run under linux. Dual boot, if you must play.07:37
dv_LethalSword, if you want to play top-notch 3d stuff available for windows only then install both07:37
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GigaClonhttp://www.happypenguin.org07:37
kipLS the choice is easy07:37
dv_and use windows mostly for playing07:37
ChodderChessmaster is the shit, It beats out gnuchess by a mile07:37
Chodder:P07:37
dv_and ignore comments on you using windows.07:37
kingspawnthen you have one os for using a computer, and one for playing a game07:37
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Dr_WillisI can say that ive never had windows 'hacked' . :p but I try to be as secure as possible withit.07:37
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kipi want a go game on linux07:37
warthawgwhat is chessmaster's rating?07:37
Dr_WillisGnuGo07:37
dv_its *YOUR* choice, not theirs. so they can stick their barks where the sun doesnt shine.07:38
ChodderRTCW:ET07:38
LethalSwordDr_Willis what is the best firewall for windows?07:38
kingspawnand fritz beats chessmaster, and rybka beats fritz.07:38
p01n7Dr_Willis, you mean cracked, right?07:38
warthawgkip, even got a console go game for you07:38
ChodderDr_Willis, GnuGO?07:38
kiphow to install it07:38
GigaClonLeeJunFan, ZoneAlarm07:38
void^kip: gnugo with qgo07:38
GigaClonkip, google is your friend07:38
wastrelhello07:38
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timmy_hello...07:38
kipwillis07:38
void^kip: or play on kgs with cgoban207:38
p01n7LethalSword, umm.. not the place ( #windows is ).. i say blackice07:38
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  I tend to let my linksys router do the firewalling  needs.07:38
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LethalSwordDr_Willis i was running a router07:39
LethalSwordthe hacker broke through it07:39
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kipim fairly new so help me out07:39
ChodderLethalSword, more like you got loads of spyware07:39
Dr_WillisLethalSword,  'prove' it.07:39
azurehuesofbluelol07:39
no_gatez_fanwastrel/ thanks07:39
nickrudLethalSword: I'm sure you can make windows not go on line, so no chance of spyware/hack whatever07:39
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Dr_WillisChodder,  thats what i was getting at.07:39
ChodderHeh07:39
louwillto play psx in linux go here http://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php07:39
no_gatez_fanvery sensitive isnt it07:39
kipnick deplug the rj45 cable07:39
Dr_Willispsx emulation is good. :P07:39
Dr_Willissnes emulation is good.07:39
Chodderomg the spyware d00dz h4x0r'd my pUt3r07:39
n3m3s1s_why i have error "make" command not found07:39
void^amiga emulation is good :)07:40
kipi want ps2 emu07:40
apokryphosn3m3s1s_: install build-essential07:40
Chodderheh07:40
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Chodderps2 emu wouldnt run very efficent07:40
gnomefreakn3m3s1s_: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:40
kipthat will be long07:40
n3m3s1s_erf07:40
Dr_Willisvoid^,  i find winuae a little better under windows then uae under linux. same with Vice and WinVice.07:40
n3m3s1s_but my friend haven't connection07:40
Dr_WillisNot tried the PS2 emulators.07:40
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warthawgn3m3s1s:  what kind of wuss distro are you running that doesn't come with a build envorinment by default?  oh, wait a sec.07:40
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void^Dr_Willis: yes, that's true.. i think the cloanto folks improved graphics performance :/07:41
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Dr_Willisvoid^,  actually i dont think they did much :P its the winuae team that did the work07:42
wastrelwhat's winuae07:42
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Dr_Willisvoid^,  that picasso driver stuff - seems to help a lot07:42
Dr_Williswastrel,  Windows Version of the UAE amiga emulator07:42
Dr_Willisits amazing good.07:42
ChodderAnyone ever read this?07:42
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Chodderhttp://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/leetspeak.mspx07:42
void^Dr_Willis: well whoever it was, they did a nice job =) should have ported it back to uae, though.07:42
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Absenthis there a way to boost or tweak 3d performance with the "nvidia" driver?07:42
Dr_Willisvoid^,  i think they some how are using the directx features. :(07:42
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void^Dr_Willis: ambermoon on uae runs little better than on my old a500 :(07:43
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Dr_Willisvoid^,  heh - it blows away my A120007:43
void^hm, have to try again someday :)07:44
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louwillHow can I rip psx isos in linux?07:44
gnomefreakChodder: please bring microsoft talk to #ubuntu-offtopic07:44
redguyjava07:45
redguy!java07:45
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:45
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nickrudAbsenth: you should have nvidia-settings available, don't know if it's what you want07:45
louwillto rip isos?07:45
Choddergnomefreak, it wasnt microsoft talk, rather a funny link that has nothing to do with M$07:45
ChodderBut ya ok...07:45
kbrooksChodder, a link to a micriosoft site is still, technically talk about it07:45
ChodderPeople are to sensitive...07:45
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Absenthnickrud, yeah,  doesn't quite cover what I was looking for, but a great tool none the less.07:46
kbrooks@ gnomefreak: it's the same  thing as posting a site with curse words.07:46
gnomefreaklol07:46
djabel;] 07:46
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kbrooksyou'renot swearing, but technically you are *through* the site07:46
louwillI want to know how to make psx iso image from disk in linux07:46
Absenthnickrud, using cedega on ubuntu breezy, WoW operates at less then 25 fps on an FX5900 Ultra.  in windows at much higher graphics settings I get closer to 75 fps.07:46
GigaClonk3b works07:46
Absenthnickrud, I suspect the driver just isn't as good :/07:47
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nickrud!dualboot07:47
ubotuit has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo07:47
nickrudAbsenth: :)07:47
polpakAbsenth, did you pass the -opengl option to WoW?07:47
kbrooksgnomefreak, how about 15 out of 20?07:47
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Absenthpolpak, probibly not.....  I'll have to try that when I get home.07:47
katarotis there any other way to connect wlan to internet without router07:48
louwillwhat software makes isos in linux?07:48
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polpakAbsenth, it makes a big difference07:48
louwillhello07:48
polpaklouwill, there's many07:48
gnomefreak!iso07:48
ubotu[iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto07:48
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Absenthpolpak, thanks for the tip....  that option forces D3D as the rendering option then?07:48
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jbroomekatarot: just set it outside and it will absorb the internet07:48
Absenth-option +engine07:48
Absenthjbroome, heh.......  :)07:49
gnomefreaklouwill: make an iso is different than burning an iso07:49
polpakAbsenth, no, it forces opengl rather than D3D.. Linux plays much nicer with opengl07:49
Absenthpolpak, Ahhhh!  got it.;07:49
polpakAbsenth, the same option can be used with Warcraft 307:49
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katarotwhat do what i did inside when i first got my router only this time i do it outside07:49
louwillI want a software to ripping a cd not to burn07:49
polpakAbsenth, cause bliz was smart enough to develop for both graphic engines07:49
JayR168ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?07:50
louwillwhat software works for that?07:50
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mlalkakaDr_Willis, i did the google search and it looks like all the programs run on windows, which is useless because i can't boot into windows and if i could, there would be no problem. i can't find a linux tool to fix a fat partition, which is understandable.07:50
Absenthpolpak, I gather you've used cedega and a couple of the blizzard games semi-recently then :)07:50
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nickrudlouwill: you could try dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=102407:50
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louwilldoes'n work07:50
polpakAbsenth, I used to.. I don't really play them anymore. Not a lot of free time =)07:50
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polpaklouwill, data cd or audio?07:50
nickrudlouwill: copy protect then I would guess07:51
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mlalkakaDr_Willis, i did make a back up of the data a month ago, so i guess i will have to use that. thanks for helping. cya07:51
louwillpsx cd07:51
polpaklouwill, lol07:51
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polpaklouwill, no idea. You can try gnomebaker or k3b but I can't make any guarentees07:52
pjzdoes ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup? I booted it and it saw the GeForce 5300 but not the Radeon 700007:52
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louwillok thanks07:52
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JayR168ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?07:53
katarotemmm will that work if im no were near my router see i went away and took my laptop thinking that because it was set up to the router it would work after a while my internet cut off now im in my uncles house and on his computer and im still trying to set my laptop up to work with ubuntu07:53
kbrookswhoo.07:53
JayR168guys? what does MPS in bios do?07:53
kbrooksi have many applet goodies07:53
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gnomefreakJayR168: ask the manufacturer of your motherboard?07:53
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GigaClonJayR168, if it doesn't work then don't use that setting07:54
kbrooksum.07:54
nickrudJayR168: Multiprocessor Specification07:54
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kbrooksfirefox uses a big chunk of memory07:54
kbrooks113.4 MiB !!!07:55
JayR168thanks07:55
apokryphosff sucks :D07:55
kbrooksapokryphos, so what browser do you use?07:55
Dr_Willislynx07:56
Dr_Willis:P07:56
apokryphoskbrooks: Konqueror, or Opera on rare occassions.07:56
Dr_Willistelnet07:56
nickrudif lynx doesn't render it, use nothing :)07:56
nickrudslooow07:56
kingspawnim an avid fan of links myself07:56
Dr_Willislynx makes porn sites even dull..07:56
apokryphoskonqueror is spee-edy; khtml rocks my socks.07:56
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apokryphosnickrud: very easy to do in ubuntu :)07:58
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GlemSomI still prefre links... It has frame support...07:59
linuxboyfriendhi all07:59
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kbrooksnickrud, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Done.07:59
nickrudapokryphos: true. Every time I try I like a lot, but i've been using gnome for so long I get totally frustrated with some differences07:59
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kbrooksnickrud, like what a lot?08:00
nickrudkbrooks: konqueror's speed, for one08:00
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kbrooksnickrud: what differences are you talking about?08:00
linuxboyfriendmy friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?08:00
z33I have an hda1 icon on my desktop, is that my winXP NTFS partition? When I open it, it says contents could not be displayed because I don't have permission.08:00
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nickrudkbrooks: phone calls, I'm sorta at work08:00
gnomefreakkonqueror has speed??????08:01
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kbrooksnickrud, ?????????08:01
kbrooksnickrud, what are you talking about?08:02
knorzelinchenhi08:02
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gnomefreakhi08:02
knorzelincheneverybody english speaking here?08:02
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gnomefreakall of us08:02
knorzelinchenbut why?08:02
gnomefreakok most of us08:02
apokryphosgnomefreak: yes, it has a lot. More than firefox.08:02
jkehow can i copy paste something from my machine to an ftp server, using the command line from an ubuntu livecd?08:02
gnomefreakknorzelinchen: there are other channels for other languages08:02
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knorzelinchenwhere do you come from gnomefreak?08:03
apokryphoson all decent benchmark tests, khtml proves the better, in fact. It also uses like 10 ten times less code.08:03
gnomefreakapokryphos: you think that has speed try links2 ;)08:03
polpakjke, you can ftp from your machine to something else yes.08:03
louwillI speak english and spanish08:03
gnomefreakknorzelinchen: this is a support channel for ubuntu if you dont have an issue with ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic08:03
polpakjke, perhaps if you were more specific08:03
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knorzelinchenive got enough issues with ubuntu, be sure08:04
gnomefreakknorzelinchen: than lets see what we can do to fix your system08:04
hoplaahello, i have a small problem with ubuntu & sound08:04
jkepolpak: okay. i have an ftp server running on machine B. i want to copy some data to this ftp server from machine A. machine A is running the live cd :)08:04
polpakjke, ok, so just ftp it?08:05
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lekuhi08:05
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lekuI just upgraded to dapper and my KDED is crashing ike crazy08:05
linuxboyfriendcan anyone help me about that apt error?08:05
polpak!dapper08:05
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion08:05
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hoplaaI did a fresh install ubuntu 5.10 and now when I try to play anything with XMMS I dont hear a thing08:05
apokryphoslinuxboyfriend: which one?08:05
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: what apt error?08:05
jkepolpak: how do i do it?08:06
GigaClonleku, make sure its using the right output08:06
hoplaaI have configured it to use ALSA08:06
ubuntu_kipwillis08:06
gnomefreakhoplaa: like are you trying to listen to mp3? or what?08:06
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: hi, lemme copy-pate again :)08:06
GigaClonhoplaa killall esd again08:06
hoplaamp3/cd whatever08:06
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: pastebin please08:06
polpakjke, is machine A running the live CD using X windows?08:07
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: my friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?08:07
jkepolpak: yes08:07
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gnomefreakhoplaa: i ask because you need software to listen to mp3s08:07
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gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: he has teh wrong sources.list08:07
jkepolpak: i need to move dir, put i didn't have any luck doing that with ftp & put08:07
xsmogxIn everyone's opinion how are the default iptables rules?08:07
gnomefreaks/teh/the08:08
hoplaai've installed all the needed ones i think, right now im trying to listen regular cd and i cant hear a thing08:08
_jasonxsmogx: blank08:08
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_jason:)08:08
xsmogxThey come blank?08:08
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: i think i should give him my sources.lst. OK?08:08
GigaClonhoplaa, check what output XMMS is using08:08
hoplaaALSA08:08
xsmogxI have a ton of rules that I don't remember making.08:08
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hoplaai can hear the system sounds allright so08:08
_jasonxsmogx: did you install firestarter or something?08:08
GigaClonhoplaa, change it to esd in XMMS08:08
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: yes as long as he is using same version of ubuntu as you08:08
feifongwonghttp://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161 <- :O08:08
xsmogxoh yeah I did08:08
_jasonxsmogx: yeah, firestarter creates them08:08
xsmogxI see08:09
xsmogxhow do you manage firestarter, command or gui?08:09
hoplaanope, still nothing08:09
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linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: yes, we are using same 5.10 version (not virgin :)08:09
gnomefreakhuh?08:09
gnomefreaki said version i hope :(08:09
_jasonsmog: firestarter is just a gui frontend for iptables08:09
polpakjke, you can just go to Places->Connect to Server and specify the FTP info there. Then just drag and drop from nautilus08:09
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linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: no, i was just joking :)08:10
smogHow would I get to the gui?08:10
hoplaaif i use cd player which comes with gnome it plays ok08:10
gnomefreakoh good sorry08:10
louwillDo you know a Sega Master Sistem emulator in ubuntu?08:10
_jasonsmog: applications menu > system tools > firestarter08:10
smogThank you Jason08:10
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linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: kindly help me in another problem http://pastebin.com/605940 this appear when my gnome starts08:10
gnomefreakknorzelinchen: must not have issues with ubuntu at all oh well brb08:10
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juananhola08:10
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juananhay alguien??08:10
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truis there a small image for doing network installations of drapper.08:10
louwillyo08:10
_jason!es08:10
juananhola???08:10
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:10
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louwillsi yo08:11
jkepolpak: thanks alot! works great :)08:11
juananalguien me puede ayudar08:11
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juananes que soy nuevo en linux08:11
_jasonjuanan: type this: /join #ubuntu-es08:11
louwillhay un emulador de sega para Ubuntu?08:11
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_jasonlouwill: /join #ubuntu-es08:11
_Felixhello people08:11
juanany no tengo ni idea de como instalar programas ni nada08:11
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: ive seen that the other day cant for my life remember where (check launchpad bugs)08:11
knorzelinchenwhere do you come from @all08:11
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Tripkebelguim08:11
gnomefreakknorzelinchen: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:11
komani-Niklasgermany08:11
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dozah`Hi there08:12
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dozah`anyone who can help me with the ubuntu installation ?08:12
dozah`im new to linux08:12
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: i am trying to add my keyboard support but its not working :(08:12
louwillwhere is ubuntu-offtopic?08:12
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dozah`and im kinda stuckk08:12
GlemSomI saw this guide on how to unstall wine on a Ubuntu system... but it does not work... apt-cache search does not know of wine... (this guide: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb):08:12
_jasonlouwill: /join #ubuntu-offtopic08:12
gnomefreaklouwill: #ubuntu-offtopic is a channel08:12
polpak!tell dozah` about anyone08:12
juananalguien me puede abrir un privado para ayudarme con unos problemillas???08:13
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juananporfavor08:13
_Felixalguien -> someone :D08:13
_Felixme -> me08:13
louwillYO08:13
polpakdozah`, just ask your question.. If someone can answer they weill08:13
Tripkeis someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )08:13
louwillque tu quieres?08:13
_jasonhow do you say type in spanish?08:13
Tripkeis someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )08:13
juanan<louwill08:13
polpak!es08:13
_Felix:DDD08:13
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:13
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: i saw it somewhere i just wish im able to tell you where but i know its big on thier llist iirc08:13
_Felixno idea08:13
juanansorry08:13
gnomefreaknow brb08:13
juananesk aki me lio08:13
louwillok voy pa ubuntu es08:13
juananveras no tengo ni idea de linux08:13
juananubuntu es???08:14
_Felixporvafor08:14
_jasonplease only english here.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es08:14
_Felix#Ubuntu-ES08:14
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polpakplease join #ubuntu-es08:14
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louwillvamos pa ubuntu es que nos botaron08:14
juanancomo voy???08:14
_FelixVamons, muchachos, mano a mano08:14
juananese es el problema08:14
_Felixdum dum08:14
_Felixje ne comprend!08:14
kbrookswhy is the ubuntu site down?08:14
_FelixKICK HIM!!!08:14
louwillright click en #ubuntu-es08:14
_Felixlol08:14
_Felixalguien paste a screenshot :D08:15
ubuntu_kipcan someone help me08:15
_Felixor a video08:15
Jhairjuanan, don't write in spanish, stop08:15
jkenow, let the transfer of my gnometris scores begin :P08:15
GlemSomAnyone know how to install WINE under Ubuntu 64bit?08:15
corskbrooks: The Ubuntu site isn't down from here08:15
_jasonubuntu_kip: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)08:15
juananey please i need help08:15
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O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak what is  contrib module in postgree instalation?08:15
Jhairjuanan: go to #ubuntu-es08:15
ubuntu_kiphow can 8i transfer the preference of ubuntu to a otjher ubuntu08:16
juanani am spanish and i don not want to speak in other language08:16
_Felixand you'd like a kicK?08:16
_jasonjuanan: write this: /join #ubuntu-es08:16
HymnToLife!es08:16
polpakjuanan, that's fine. join the ubuntu-es channel08:16
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:16
juananwhere???08:16
_Felixl o  l08:16
Jhair*sigh*08:16
_jasonjuanan: same place your wrote ``where???''08:16
nickrud!es08:16
HymnToLifejuanan> type /join #ubuntu-es08:16
juananahmmm08:16
juananjajaja08:16
juanansorry08:16
juananwell thanks08:16
ubuntu_kipjuanan youve been told to go to the espagnol chan08:16
juanansorry08:16
_Felixyou shouldnt be using linux if you dont know how to use irc client.. . ;)08:16
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kingspawnubuntu_kip: with great hassle, i would believe. probably easier to just set it up the way you like08:17
ikaros=)08:17
juanan#ubuntu-es08:17
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polpakjuanan,  you forgot the /join08:17
louwilldont believe it08:17
ubuntu_kipking it beacuse im formating it08:17
nickrud_Felix: now wait a minute, I ran linux for 4 years before I ever opened an irc client ;)08:17
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truz24polpak, ever get the feeling he is just messing around?08:17
polpaktruz24, yes08:17
dozahwell ive made a partition for linux with partition magic and now im tryin to install ubuntu.08:17
dozah.i come to the partition and formatin side and it says...no root file system defined08:17
g0dchildHi, what am I getting this error? "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23911 package `karamba':08:17
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_Felix=D08:17
g0dchild missing version08:17
g0dchild"08:17
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jkecould anybopdy have an idea why there are some files i cant copy? they all ahve some "not normal" ext. like .dll or .acm08:18
_Felixi cant connect to the internet with my WinModem!!!08:18
sEbaKiLLeRhi!08:18
_Felixtried LOADS of stuff... :(08:18
kbrooks_Felix, don't use them.08:18
ubuntu_kipcd burner08:18
g0dchilddarn...i am sorry bout the extra lines- :(08:18
_Felixit's silly... :(08:18
polpakdozah, you need to choose a partition to mount to /08:18
O_Rei_do_Gadopolpak: what is  contrib modules during in postgree instalation?08:18
HedgeMage_Felix: very few of them will work under Linux, and only after lots of headbangig08:18
gnomefreakjke: what do you mean they have .dll? .dll isnt for linux08:18
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ubuntu_kipwhy my cursor beacame black08:19
sEbaKiLLeRsomebody can help me with nvidia drivers??08:19
_Felixsm5608:19
ktogiasHi, is there any tool or recomended way to download updates for breezy from a pc with different os in order to update a breezy system with no internet access?08:19
_jasonubuntu_kip: tell sEbaKiLLeR about nvidia08:19
g0dchildso how bout it everyone? why am i getting this dpkg error about some parse line?08:19
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dozahpolpak well what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?08:19
g0dchildcant I force it to install azureus?08:19
_jasonubuntu_kip: tell g0dchild about azureus08:19
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leku_hey how do I change my resolution in xorg?08:19
_FelixThe problem is i have gcc 4, and hack compiles at 3 and 2. :/08:20
_jasonubuntu_kip: tell leku_ about fixres08:20
ubuntu_kipeerr08:20
gnomefreakg0dchild: dont force it read the instructions for it08:20
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leku_I changed everything that said 1024x768 to 1280x1024 and restarted X08:20
g0dchild_jason, - heh. i am following those instructions. :)08:20
_jasonoops08:20
_jasonubuntu_kip: you aren't ubotu :)08:20
sEbaKiLLeRsimply i cant install the drivers!08:20
gnomefreak_Felix: sudo apt-get isntaoo gcc-3.408:20
leku_but xdpyinfo says i'm still in 1024x76808:20
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g0dchildalright...lemme see if i missed anyth08:20
_jasonubotu: tell leku_ about fixres08:20
mephis1987hello08:20
leku_thx08:20
ubuntu_kip!fixres08:20
mephis1987i cant configure my source file08:20
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:20
tale_leku_, you can select it from the preferences->screen resolution section08:20
ubuntu_kip!azerus08:20
ubotuubuntu_kip: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:21
_jasonubuntu_kip: maybe you are...08:21
gnomefreakg0dchild: did you install java first and did you use update-altenatives?08:21
dozahwell what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?08:21
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ubuntu_kip!nvidia08:21
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:21
leku_i'm so dissapointed that i upgraded to dapper08:21
gnomefreakalternitives even08:21
ubuntu_kiphere you go08:21
_jasonubuntu_kip: sorry about that :)08:21
mephis1987!configure08:21
ubotumephis1987: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:21
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: see nvidia link above^08:21
sEbaKiLLeRok08:21
sEbaKiLLeRty08:21
ron_mbr gone help please :/08:21
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g0dchildgnome-freak- nope- not that i know of...although i am downloading the upgrades right now-08:22
ubuntu_kipjason no prob08:22
jkegnomefreak: well, i can have dll's anyway :)08:22
gnomefreakg0dchild: you have to install java first before you can install that08:22
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xcelhi!08:22
g0dchildgnomefreak, could it be the version- i am still using 5.0408:23
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xceli've got a prob... when i "apt-get install fluxbox" or ftpd or whatever it doesn'ot work08:23
gnomefreakjke: yes you can have .dlls but ubuntu doesnt support .dll for anything08:23
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xcelmy friend told me to: ask in #ubuntu on freenode for better repositories08:23
Tomcat_gnomefreak: xine does. ;D08:23
gnomefreakxcel: what is the error?08:23
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jkegnome-freak: I think i used them to some rdriver issue... og wine? dont really remember08:23
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xcelgnomefreak, "can fint the package"08:23
xcel*find08:23
nickrud!tell xcel about repos08:23
g0dchildalright- gnomefreak  - thanks. see ya round later08:24
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_Felixrepositories08:24
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gnomefreakTomcat_: the only package in ubuntu that has .dll is the codecs and they are not supported by ubuntu08:24
Tomcat_gnomefreak: Yep.08:24
xcel!easysource08:24
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:24
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nickrudxcel: a good method for sources08:25
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jorthello i'm new08:25
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jayeis there a way to upgrade to the drake from a breezy install using apt-get?08:25
FawzibI have a question about start-stop-daemon. I'm running a java programs as a daemon and I want the stdout to be redirected to a file, im using 'start-stop-daemon --quiet --background --start --exec APP -- PARAM1 PARAM2 > logfile 2>&1' but it isnt working. How should I do it?08:25
FlimFlamManso.....  could someone explain to me what "bling" is in the Ubuntu context?08:25
jortanybody know how to open a .run file?08:25
_jasonjaye: yes, do you know dapper is still in development?08:25
gnomefreakjort: sh file.run08:25
nickrudjaye: replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list , then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade08:25
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jortin terminal?08:26
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: how can i associate different extensions in gnome to different softwares?08:26
gnomefreakjort: yes08:26
jortthx m808:26
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: explain08:26
ron_mbr gone help please :/08:26
gnomefreakjort: yw08:26
jaye_jason: yes I just don't feel like starting from scratch with one of my testing boxes08:26
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gnomefreakubotu tell ron_ about grub08:26
_jasonubotu: tell jaye about upgrade08:26
jayenickrud: thank you08:26
sEbaKiLLeRthank u very much!!!08:26
gnomefreakjaye: use the upgrade tool please08:26
gnomefreak!upgrade08:26
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.08:26
_jasonjaye: you can test the upgrader or follow the same instructions as the breezy upgrade (but replace breezy with dapper of course)08:26
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jaye_jason: thanks08:27
nickrudI didn't know the upgrade factoid had changed ;(08:27
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Fawzibanyone?08:27
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: when i click a .rm file it tries to open with totem but i wanna open it with realplayer, this mostly happens when i try to play my intenet radio08:27
JhairFawzib: what do you mean isn't working. I tried it now and got the log file...08:28
xcelwhat shall i do with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ? i'm i really noob, thoght it was to just apt-get everthing :-(08:28
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Absenthwhich nvidia driver is currently in apt?08:28
jkehave nobody else gotten the "unsupported operation while copying: xxxxx" using nautilus?08:28
Fawzibu did? i only get an empty file08:28
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JhairFawzib: which daemon are you trying to start?08:28
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: right click the file got o properties you should beable to change what it opens with in there08:28
jortjort@asus:~$ sh ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run08:28
jortsh: ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run: Unknown file of map08:28
Fawzibcocoon08:28
nickrudxcel: leave that be; remove the # from lines 19 & 20, and add multiverse to the ends of those lines08:28
Lutanyfile ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run08:28
gnomefreakjort: sh foo.run just the file name.run08:28
JhairFawzib: what does the log file where you redirected output say?08:28
Fawzibis always empty08:29
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jortbut the file is in a map on the desktop08:29
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: isn't there any module about it in control-centre or somewhere else?08:29
gnomefreakjort: cd Desktop than cd fileondesktop than sh file.run08:29
FawzibJhair: and I know cocoon prints stuff when you start it08:29
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wastrelwhole lot of nothing08:29
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gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: not sure my ubuntu doesnt come with a control ceter that i have seen08:30
rambo3its better to change ff to save hiles in user map08:30
obliis there any way of making the ctrl-alt combinations workas "alt Gr"  under ubuntu?08:30
andrehave you guys tried 6.10 dapper yet08:30
gnomefreakandre: no such thing08:30
gnomefreakandre: 6.0408:30
andredapper drake08:31
Absenthandre: it08:31
wastrelobli:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts   maybe08:31
Absenth's "Installed" in a vmware virtual machine,  that's as far as I've gotten.08:31
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linuxboyfriendok08:31
gnomefreakandre: yes im using it08:31
oblithey're not shortcuts, though08:31
wastrelsome are08:31
gnomefreakobli: i think you have to make them08:31
andrehow  is it08:31
kingspawni have a question: is there any way to turn OFF graphical boot up?08:31
gnomefreakandre: can we please take this to #ubuntu+108:31
oblion the swedish keyboard, @ is ctrl-alt-2, or alt gr-208:31
jortthx u triggered a switch in my brain to run it :D08:31
andresure08:31
gnomefreakty andre08:32
obliso I have to make shortcuts for every single symbol that uses ctrl-alt combinations?08:32
wastrelkingspawn:  remove the "splash" boot optoin from your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst08:33
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nickrudobli: sys-pref-keyboard , tab layout options08:33
JhairFawzib: are you running the command with sudo?08:33
jkeany way i can copy files over ssh instead? (i am still running from the live cd)08:33
wastreljke:  scp or sftp08:34
FawzibJhair: nope init script, it runs but the console.log file is always empty08:34
JhairFawzib: I just tried sudo start-stop-daemon --background --stop --exec `which apache` it works08:34
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Eubeycan someone tellme how to install emacs or any other php editor?08:34
wastreljke:  scp source destination    for files on a remote host,  user@host:filename  (relative to homedir of user)08:34
FawzibJhair: let me check then...08:34
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Tripkehello08:34
Tripkecommon_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!08:34
Tripkewhat to i need to do ?08:34
Tripkeits phpsysinfo ...08:35
jkewastrel: thanks!08:35
nickrudEubey: sudo aptitude install emacs2108:35
jkewastrel: does it work for a dir also?08:35
JhairFawzib: cocoon is a java application isn't it?08:35
Tripkehello08:35
Tripkecommon_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!08:35
Tripkewhat to i need to do ?08:35
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Tripkeits phpsysinfo ...08:35
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wastreljke:  no, you should tar up the file first08:36
wastreler, the dir08:36
ubuntu_kipdamn08:36
JonningsDo any one know how to allow nordic characters in the XMMS playlist?08:36
FawzibJhair: yes, it is working but I wanted the stdout redirected, let me do some tests08:36
ubuntu_kipcant copy on my laptop08:36
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ubuntu_kipit wont copy08:36
oblinickrud, there doesn't seem to be anything there about making leftctrl+leftalt = alt gr08:37
Hoxzerguys guys08:37
HoxzerI cannnot open files in sftp server?08:37
ubuntu_kipFUCK08:37
Hoxzerhow can I do it?08:37
Tripkechown it08:37
Tripkehello08:37
Tripkecommon_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!08:37
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Tripkewhat to i need to do ?08:37
Tripkeits phpsysinfo ...08:38
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ubuntu_kipIll need windows08:38
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nickrudobli: I know, but there are some other options there; you could read up on xkb (I find it hard going)08:38
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oblioh, ok08:38
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mephis1987hello08:39
mephis1987how can i get this : libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.208:39
ubuntu_kipis there the lexmark prog on linux08:39
mephis1987this package libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.208:39
Tripkemephis1987: apt-get install file08:39
mephis1987 how can i get it08:39
obliAre there any regional ubuntu channels?08:39
mephis1987i cant find it in synaptic08:39
naliothubuntu_kip: let us watch our language, please08:39
ubuntu_kipsrry08:39
Tripkehello08:40
Tripkecommon_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!08:40
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Tripkewhat to i need to do ?08:40
Tripkeits phpsysinfo ...08:40
ubuntu_kipis there the lexmark prog on linux08:40
mephis1987Tripke, i tried but it said no package foudn08:40
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NoWhereMan[away] hi all08:40
orangehawobli, check /list08:40
Tripkemephis1987: apt-cache search08:40
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NoWhereMan[away] any suggestion for a linux game like age of empire (apart from freeciv)08:40
NoWhereMan[away] ?08:40
NoWhereMan[away] :)08:40
smogDoes ubuntu come with ssh installed?08:40
Eubeywhen i try to install emacs21 it says unmet dependencies emacs21-in-common08:40
HedgeMageubuntu_kip: lexmark laser printers are very well-supported under linux, their inkjet printers are generally poorly or not supported under linux08:40
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mephis1987Tripke, nothing found :908:41
nickrudEubey: um, I don't show that package, did you copy the name wrong?08:42
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ubuntu_kiphedge that means that ill need windows08:42
bimberismog: client yes, server no (install the ssh package for that)08:42
linuxcrazyI have this problem with Ubuntu. I get his message when I try to install this package called gxine. I get this "c compiler cannot create executables in $PATH. What does this mean?08:43
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HappyFoolemacs21-bin-common, probably08:43
smogHow would I intall the ssh package?08:43
smogapt-get install ssh-server?08:43
bimberilinuxcrazy: install build-essential, although gxine is available inthe ubuntu repositories08:43
bimberismog: sudo aptitude install ssh08:43
Tripkemephis1987: lol08:43
linuxcrazyI'm pretty much of a noob so try to be as strupid as you can08:43
Tripkeapt-cache search g++2.8.108:43
ubuntu_kipcan ubuntu rn on mac?08:44
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linuxcrazystupid*08:44
Tripkeubuntu_kip: ye08:44
arrinmurris there some kind of autostart directory in gnome? the same way kde has ~/.kde/Autostart?08:44
nickrudif that's so, Eubey's sources need work08:44
linuxcrazywait, so what do I do?08:44
ubuntu_kipi have a g308:44
ubuntu_kipthe blue one08:44
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bimberi!info gxine08:44
ubotugxine: (the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 664 kB08:44
ubuntu_kip!mac08:44
ubotuubuntu_kip: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:44
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bimberilinuxcrazy: you need to enable the universe repository and then use synaptic to find and install gxine08:45
Eubeyit says emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common08:45
bimberi!tell linuxcrazy about synaptic08:45
Jhairarrinmurr: System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs08:45
bimberi!tell linuxcrazy about universe08:45
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ubuntu_kipgood bye linux ;_;08:45
arrinmurrJhair: thank you08:45
aarkerioHi!    has Dapper NTFS write support?08:45
gnomefreakEubey: does it ask if you would like to continue?08:45
gnomefreakaarkerio: dapper please try #ubntu+108:46
ubuntu_kipnow how do i format that partion? to fat or ntfs08:46
Eubeynope, says E: unableto correct problems, you have held bken packages.08:46
nickrudEubey: could you post your /etc/apt/sources file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?08:46
xcelhey!!! onyone can helt me with a noob thing, "sudo apt-get install ftpd" doesn't work.. how do i install it?08:46
aarkerioHi!    has Breezy NTFS write support?08:46
bimberiaarkerio: the dapper install offers it.  But *shudder* :)08:46
Eubeykk i will try08:46
gnomefreakaarkerio: no08:46
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gnomefreakaarkerio: i wouldnt try it just yet on dapper either08:46
aarkerioneed I compile the kernel?08:47
nickrudxcel: please put your /etc/sources.list on  paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:47
nickrudxcel: */etc/apt/sources.list08:47
linuxcrazyI dont't want to use sysnaptic. I want to learn how to compile from a terminal.08:47
gnomefreakaarkerio: for what? what are you trying to do?08:47
xcelnickrud, ive checked that and its like two lines08:47
_jasonubuntu_kip: tell linuxcrazy about compile08:47
_jasonargh08:47
Falstiuslinuxcrazy: check out LFS ...08:47
gnomefreaklinuxcrazy: why not just install from terminal08:47
nickrudxcell, there should be a 30-40 lines08:47
_jasonubotu: tell linuxcrazy about compile08:47
bimberilinuxcrazy: ok, 'sudo aptitude install gxine'  (once you enable universe)08:47
HappyFoolcompiling is highly overrated08:47
FawzibJhair: ok, if I remove the --background option it works, but I need that option08:48
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linuxcrazyI want to learn how to compile.08:48
Eubeynickrud: how do i paste it there?08:48
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naliothlinuxcrazy: look to your priv msgs08:48
linuxcrazywhere are my private messages?08:48
xcelnickrud, deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i38608:48
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bimberilinuxcrazy: check that 'compile' factoid from ubotu then08:49
xcel(20051012)] / breezy main restricted08:49
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nickrudEubey: open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then in a terminal, type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Cut and paste to the pastebin08:49
gnomefreakxcel: use pastebin please08:49
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neri_hi08:49
neri_testing first irc connection with ubuntu08:50
nickrudxcel: replace all that with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604708:50
linuxcrazywherea are my private messages?08:50
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gnomefreaklinuxcrazy: what app are you using?08:50
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linuxcrazyum this IRC on bmkfolding.com08:51
nickrudEubey: um copy & paste :)08:51
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gnomefreaknever heard of that sorry08:51
Eubeynickrud: kk its done08:51
bimberinickrud: does "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" work properly for you in breezy?  For me it opens an empty file called sources.list'  (note the quote).  Seems to be an issue with gksudo. Fine in dapper though08:51
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linuxcrazywhere do I check my private messages on this irc?08:51
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: how can i set my gcc to gcc-3.4?08:51
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: did you install gcc3.4?08:52
nickrudbimberi: I'm on dapper, but don't remember that happening08:52
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linuxboyfriendgnomefreak: yes08:52
linuxcrazyI dop have gcc installed yes.08:52
linuxcrazyx the p08:52
theinelinuxboyfriend: what do you want to compile?08:52
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linuxcrazygxine08:52
ubuntu_kiphoiw do i install it on mac08:52
gnomefreakok nickrud  might beable to help me with this its export_CC=gcc3.4 right?08:52
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Eubeynickrud: i put it on that site08:53
linuxcrazyi get teh same message with everything I compile08:53
linuxboyfriendi have installed both gcc 3.4 and 4.0 but i want my system to use gcc-3.408:53
nickrudEubey: remove lines 39, 41, & 43 ; uncomment (remove the #) from lines 19 & 20 , then add multiverse to the ends of lines 19 & 2008:53
theinelinuxcrazy: try "export CC=gcc-3.4" before running ./configure08:53
linuxcrazyok08:53
pjzyou don't have to export it08:53
pjzyou can just put it on the same line08:53
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: thats the command that theine just posted08:53
pjzCC=gcc-3.4 ./configure08:53
nickrudgnomefreak: I think all of gnome is compiled with gcc4 , beagle probably should be as well. I may be mistaken08:53
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bimberinickrud: kk (works fine with sudo btw, seems to be something with gksudo)08:54
gnomefreaknickrud: breezy kernel was compiled with 3.4  i dont know what they are compiling08:54
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nickrudgnomefreak: yeah, gcc-3.4 for anything kernel,  beable <-- I read that as beagle :)08:54
ubuntu_kiphoiw do i install ubuntu on mac08:54
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gnomefreakbuild-essential has always worked for me08:54
gnomefreaklol08:55
ubuntu_sweet08:55
ubuntu_unubtu live cd!!08:55
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gnomefreakubuntu_: put the mac iso cd in and boot to cdrom08:55
nickrudbimberi: ah, the old gksudo/sudo shuffle :)08:55
shiggity^_^08:55
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Eubeynickrud: how can i tell which lines r which08:55
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jemtGreetings. I have just reinstalled Ubuntu and are now trying to install Java 1.5. Earlier I did it by doing 'apt-get install sun-j2re1.5' - but the package is no longer available - so I guess I'm missing a repository in my souces.list file. Can anyone help me?08:56
nickrudEubey: the page you posted on paste.ubuntu-nl.org has the line numbers08:56
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truz24Are there any known reasons for Mysql 5 not being on the ubuntu repositories?08:56
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jemt!java08:56
gnomefreakjemt: it never was avalible in ubuntu08:56
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:56
bimberinickrud: that was a Boz Scaggs (sp) song wasn't it? :)08:56
gnomefreakubotu tell jemt about javadebs08:56
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nickrudrflol08:56
jemtgnomefreak: Well, as I said, I probably added a repository08:56
arrinmurrjemt: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/08:56
nickrudbimberi spells good08:57
ZarephathHey can anyone shed some light on how old a GeForce6200 TC is? I am not sure if I need to use the legacy drivers or the new ones?08:57
jemtarrinmurr: Checking :)08:57
bimberinickrud: ta08:57
theinetruz24: it is in the Dapper repositories08:57
truz24but dapper isn't in production08:57
gnomefreakyes it is it just hasnt been released08:57
theinetruz24: no, you'd have to wait, but maybe there's a backport somewhere08:57
gnomefreaktheine: not yet08:58
truz24is dapper strong?08:58
truz24or are there tons of bugs?08:58
HappyFoolducks... err, dragons are known for their strength08:58
gnomefreaktruz24: compared to redhat always08:58
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Zarephathgnomefreak: Is XGL enabled upon in install with Flight 5?08:58
G0SUBtruz24: very strong08:58
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savon!past08:58
gnomefreakZarephath: no08:58
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, savon08:58
Zarephath*install*08:58
pinkisntwellwill we get gnome 2.14 on breezy?08:58
savon!paste08:58
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ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.08:58
gnomefreakthank goodness :)08:58
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gnomefreakpinkisntwell: hasnt been backported yet havent heard either way08:59
pab32does ubuntu have usb drive issues?08:59
nickrudEubey: I pasted the changes you should make; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1035208:59
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pinkisntwellgnomefreak: thanks08:59
Zarephathpab32: Probably not...08:59
linuxcrazyok here it is verbatum "c compiler cannot create executables"08:59
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bimberilinuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential08:59
ubuntu_kiphoiw do i install ubuntu on mac08:59
savonI can=t install things!08:59
savonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1035308:59
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gnomefreaklinuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:59
_jasonlinuxcrazy: install build-essential08:59
Jeltehiya guys.... the network led's on my machine are blinking away and in network tools i can see data going in and out.. but I'm not doing anything... could my machine be compromized? and if so how can i check?  how can i see what process is sending / receiving data?08:59
ZarephathUbuntu is the ONLY distro I have installed and use that works completely as it should from install to work08:59
savonwhats wrong?09:00
ubuntu_kiphoiw do i install ubuntu on mac on a g309:00
ftg2truz24: its not "debian stable".. if you have used a debian sid installation before you know what to expect09:00
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ZarephathJelte: Look in /var/log09:00
theinesavon: what's the command that gave you those error messages?09:00
tristanmikeubuntu_kip, you need the PPC install iso09:00
pab32cannot boot ubuntu, stops at when loading hotplug. any ideas?09:00
bimberilinuxboy: don't worry about the GCC=gcc-3.4 stuff, that was for linuxboyfriend (a case of mistaken identity due to nick proximity :) )09:00
_jasonsavon: sudo apt-get update09:00
gnomefreaksavon: can you try for the whole error?09:00
nickrudJelte: you can see what connections you have open with netstat -t ; also sudo netstat -tlp tells you what services you have listening for connections09:00
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Jeltethanks guys!09:01
linuxcrazyinstall what?09:01
gnomefreakbuild-essential09:01
Zarephathpab32: Well try passing kernel params at boot...my machine needs the "noapic" on the line with the default boot kernel09:01
linuxcrazytell me again how to install it?09:01
bimberilinuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential09:01
gnomefreaklinuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essetial09:01
linuxcrazyok09:01
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pab32thanks man09:01
_jasonlinuxcrazy: use gnomefreak command, bimberi made a type :)09:01
savongnomefreak: What do you meane?09:01
_jasontypo*09:02
Yokaloshhas anyone managed to set up two monitors on a nvidia geforce fx 5200 twin head?09:02
gnomefreaksavon: i mean run sudo apt-get update and paste what the full  windows says09:02
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ZarephathPab32: Another more common problem is with ACPI..so pass acpi=off if the noapic option doesn't work for you09:02
azurehuesofblueYokalosh... wondering same thing09:02
gnomefreakin pastebin please09:02
savonOkey!09:02
bimberi_jason: gah, thanks for the catch, and lol for the irony :P09:02
linuxcrazyhaha gnomefreak also made a typo09:02
Yokaloshazurehuesofblue: :(09:03
_jasonlinuxcrazy: ha yes he did09:03
gnomefreaklol09:03
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install build-essential09:03
linuxcrazyit's not essetial09:03
gnomefreaki know09:03
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gnomefreak:(09:03
Yokaloshi need it bad, at the moment on my second screen its just a bunch of jumbled junk09:03
linuxcrazysorry09:03
bimberithe problem is we all race each other to type it09:03
Yokaloshbut i do have 'something' which is a start ;)09:03
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linuxcrazyhere I go.09:03
jemtHow do I set another Virtual Machine as the prefered Java Intepretor in Ubuntu? I think I can do it using dpkg-reconfigure or something like that. It should be pretty simple09:04
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_jason!multijava09:04
ubotufrom memory, multijava is to try to set which java is used, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"09:04
theinejemt: use update-alternatives09:04
theineah, nice09:04
azurehuesofblueYokalosh, yah same here... multi head 550009:04
jemtAh yea, update-alternatives - thanks :)09:04
savonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1035509:04
gnomefreakdidnt know ubotu had it in him to know that lol09:04
azurehuesofbluejumbled junk on one screen.09:04
_jasonsavon: try your command again that gave you the error before09:05
theinesavon: that looks fine09:05
gnomefreakwiki.ubuntu.com seach for dualdisplay09:05
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azurehuesofbluek09:05
gnomefreaksavon: looks good09:05
savonYess now it woorks agien!09:05
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Yokaloshazurehuesofblue: have you found ANYTHING?09:05
savonWhat was wrong_09:05
gnomefreakthey needed to be refrreshed09:05
savonok!09:06
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linuxcrazyhey you guys, check out this cool computer forum. www.maximumpc.com/forum09:06
Eubeynickrud: now it says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)09:06
EubeyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?09:06
tristanmikeEubey, close synaptic09:06
nickrudEubey: may I pm you?09:06
linuxcrazywhoops www.maximumpc.com/forums check it out.09:06
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nickrudEubey: there's a couple other things, might take a bit.09:06
azurehuesofbluewell yeah, I tried to edit my xorg.conf file a few time according to other examples, but then it said it couldn't find a screen on boot up... so, anyways, there is a backup file incase you mess it up... but... it's hard for a n00b lol09:07
Gambit-hrm09:07
truz24odd, i click on the torrent link and it starts downloading the iso of FLIGHT509:07
Eubeynickrud: ya09:07
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Gambit-can someone explain to me wtf mutt depends on /postfix/?!09:07
ubuntu_kiptristan09:07
servjewhola, mplayer keeps nagging me for a font. where are fonts ?09:07
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ubuntu_kiphowe do i burn the mac iso09:07
linuxcrazyare any of you guys on the MPC forums?09:07
theinetruz24: that's how it should be, no?09:07
Eubeynickrud: i can see your pm, can you see mine?09:07
HE1Can any of you guys give me some help with getting my wifi to work? ( Im on a Acer Laptop , WIfi is a PCI Linksys wkpc54g v 4 ) I tried Ndiswrapper, but it want accept the inf file.09:07
truz24No, i should get the torrent file, its redirecting to the iso from a webserver09:07
nickrudEubey: make it easier, join #ubuntu-offtopic09:07
azurehuesofblueYokalosh, it's all about configuring your xorg.conf file right I believe. but no luck yet.09:08
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theinetruz24: the torrent file is directly passed to gnome-btdownload09:08
savonKnow I have a new problem, I tied to install Ati in the week, it all seams to woork good, But after restart, X could not start!09:08
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bimberiservjew: try the package called mplayer-fonts09:08
FireGFXcan someone help me set up dual monitors?09:08
truz24I'm not in gnome, i'm in windows09:08
truz24its doing it on the server side09:08
truz24dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent is the link09:08
savonWhat can be wrong!09:08
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kbrooksi want to review ubuntu. what in ubuntu shouldi review? BTW, this will hopefully be a non biased review...09:08
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theinetruz24: ah, ok09:09
servjewah! right, i forgot about that one, thanks bimberi :)09:09
truz24and that link resolves to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent09:09
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truz24but if you click it, it starts downloading the iso09:09
truz24instead of a torrent file09:09
kbrooksand i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment.09:09
jemtI have just exstracted the Java JDK in /opt/ - how do I register it so it is displayed in 'update-alternatives --config java' ?09:09
gnomefreaktruz24: did you pick the torrent download?09:09
truz24yeah09:09
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_jasonubotu: tell jemt about java09:09
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lowfidapper isn't unstable at all09:09
truz24try it from this page09:10
truz24http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/09:10
theinetruz24: indeed09:10
gnomefreaklowfi: yes it is09:10
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truz24kbrooks, I was just explained to that flight5 is stable.09:10
sgrgcububuntu kubuntu09:10
gnomefreaklowfi: did you have any problems getting sound to work in ubuntu?09:10
kbrookstruz24, "dapper".09:10
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ftg2jemt: its a lot easier if you add the multiverse repos, apt-get install java-package, and then use make-jpkg sun.bin.file to create a deb... then install the deb and update-alternatives09:10
lowfiok your right, sound is a problem09:11
truz24kbrooks, what about it?09:11
gnomefreaklowfi: my point was i didnt have sound issues09:11
Samineruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10357 I was installing pango when this happened09:11
kbrookstruz24, i said "dapper".09:11
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kbrooks"i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment."09:11
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kbrooksso, kuja.09:12
kujaHm?09:12
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truz24kbrooks, flight5 is pre-dapper09:13
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kbrookstruz24, and?09:13
!lilo:*! Wheeeeee! Remember when we hit 30,000 users, but it wasn't official? We just hit about 30,027 in time for Gelhausen to mark it officially. In about an hour or two, the new record should appear on http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days and we should be on a new graph scale in a day or so :)09:13
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kujaDapper is screwed for me :D09:13
!lilo:*! Kind of neat :)09:13
kbrookstruz24, you're telling me its stable?09:13
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!lilo:*! Assuming some really quick dip didn't happen, we are definitely over the top09:13
kujaHm, the reason why I can't use setkeycodes to appropriately let my Korean/English key work is I think because of some xorg.conf setting that I'm unaware of that may have changed in Dapper -_-09:13
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!lilo:*! Kind of a nice feeling.09:14
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truz24kbrooks, no, i'm saying that the other folks in here said it was stable.09:14
kujaStable? Heh, there's like loads of packages coming in every hour or so.09:15
_jasonhow can I apply an awk command only to a particular range of lines?09:15
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savon!ati09:15
kujaComing in, and being updated.09:15
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:15
savon!xorg09:15
ubotuxorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html09:15
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fromvegaHello09:15
kbrookstruz24, well, i havent tried flight5 yet, and i dont want to install vmware server just to get a working flight5 installation.09:15
fromvegaI have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine in the local09:15
fromvegaops09:15
nickrudSamineru: you need libfontconfig1-dev ; you're gonna run into that a lot of those kinds of errors09:15
truz24Why do you have to install vmware server? whats wrong with vmware workstation?09:16
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GTX./setup.sh: line 143: 11644 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL09:16
GTXThe setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.109:16
GTXHow can I fix that?09:16
fromvegaI have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access it from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts?09:16
Saminerunickrud would I be able to find that under synaptics?09:16
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nickrudSamineru: yes09:17
linuxcrazyhey that worked!09:17
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linuxcrazywhere's the place to download the VLC package for Ubuntu?09:18
_jasonlinuxcrazy: universe09:18
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frank23linuxcrazy: use synaptics (activate universe)09:18
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frank23!tell linuxcrazy about sources09:18
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linuxcrazypleeeeeze i need to learn how to compile a package. now where do I get VLC09:19
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frank23linuxcrazy: you don't need to compile it.09:19
linuxcrazybut I want to compile it!09:19
frank23linuxcrazy: ok then get it from the vlc webpage09:20
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linuxcrazyI'm on the vlc now. I only see it for other distros09:20
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kingspawnthe source, for other distros?09:20
savonis there any terminalbased text editor?09:20
_jasonlinuxcrazy: you want the source09:20
kingspawnunlikely09:20
frank23linuxcrazy: download the source (tar.gz or something)09:20
ftg2savon: a couple dozen09:20
zezuWhere are the gnome window manager settings at in ubuntu ? I want to change my desktop theme around a bit and noticed i dont know where its @ on ubuntu09:20
_jasonsavon: vim, nano are two09:20
ftg2savon: i like vim. before that i used jed09:20
linuxcrazywhat's the difference betreen source and the program?09:21
savonNice09:21
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frank23savon: nano is easy to start with09:21
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: source is .. the source code, the line by line "definition" of the program. the program is what you see when yuo start it up.09:21
zezulinuxcrazy, the source is text, its the makeup of how you create the application, it must be compiled into binary form to run executed09:21
savonok, i think i need to reconfig xorg via the terminal!09:21
ftg2kingspawn: he doesn't undestand what compiling is.. makes explaining source a little difficult09:21
jemtI would prefer to install Java in a correct manner, but by installing fake-root and stuff like that as the Wiki tells me to. I have downloaded Java from SUNs website - is it possible to register the installation in update-alternatives so that I can make the VM the default intepretor on my system?09:22
linuxcrazyI see debian, mandrake and suse, but there's nowhere to download vlc Ubuntu09:22
kingspawnftg2: true.. :)09:22
jemtbut = not09:22
nickrudzezu: for themes, system-pref-themes09:22
savonit not whant to start x after the installation of ati!09:22
zezunickrud, thx09:22
_jasonlinuxcrazy: link?09:22
zezubut i dont see a prefs.09:22
sebastianisnt the debian package working under ubuntu?09:22
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: just look below them09:22
fromvegaI have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access them from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts? Could you help-me?09:22
kingspawnit says "Source code"09:22
frank23linuxcrazy: look for the source code. it's not specific to a distrbution09:23
nickrudzezu: I was lazy - top menu bar, System->Preferences->Themes09:23
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savonsebastina .deb is woorking!09:23
zezuerr nvm i had removed it somehow from the menu09:23
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savonnow i gonna restart!09:23
linuxcrazywait. do i have to install all of those other packages in order for vlc to work?!09:23
sebastianok09:23
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ulissehello people09:23
jaycee_N770evening all.09:24
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: by God, man, get vlc through synaptic. you are not ready for source code yet.09:24
RustyJamesdoes somone nnow an mp3 player where it is possible to mark a part of the song and then play this part in loop?09:24
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frank23linuxcrazy: not sure what you're talking about but you will need a bunch of packages just to compile it09:24
_jasonlinuxcrazy: the source will usually have an INSTALL and/or README file listing the dependencies you need09:24
alteroolinuxcrazy: is there a reason why u want to install? you dont seem to know alot about what you are doing?09:24
ulisseanybody knows if the wine issue have been fixed in dapper yet?09:24
linuxcrazyI'm sorry, I'm just a stupid n00b at this09:24
frank23linuxcrazy: it's way easier to just use synaptics to install it09:25
CarinArrulisse, try #ubuntu+109:25
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: its a nice idea to get to know it, but you need a little bit more background before you set out to compile sourcecode09:25
sebastianlinuxcrazy: just type apt-get install vlc09:25
Eubeyjoin $ubtuntu+109:25
linuxcrazyI just want to learn how to install from a compiler.09:25
alteroolinuxcrazy: so why do you want to install from source? get the deb from synaptic09:25
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ulisseCarinArr, never heard about, I'll check ;)09:25
zezunickrud, themes are just GTK themes or are GNOME themes or ?09:25
linuxcrazyyou guys learned.09:25
CarinArrulisse, that's where dapper questions go:)09:25
linuxcrazyi need to learn this stuff09:25
ulissety09:25
jaycee_N770Does anyone do /home sharing (and other partitions) across anything other than NFS? I'm trying to plan the storage across my home 5+ box network ...09:25
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kingspawnlinuxcrazy: in a while :)09:25
sebastiani most cases its just ./condigure , make , make install09:25
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truz24Someone fixed the torrent link :-)09:26
truz24thanks whoever fixed it09:26
void^manual install is simple, just configure ; make ; make install. now manual uninstall is the real hassle ;)09:26
_jasonlinuxcrazy: if you have the source repos for universe enabled you can just issue the 'apt-get source vlc' command to get the source and then compile that09:26
nickrudzezu: gtk themes are the contents inside the window (controls) window border is the border :) and icons are icons. Together, they make a gnome theme09:26
frank23void^: substitute make install for checkinstall  (creates a .deb and installs it)09:26
sebastianfrank: thats what i wanted to add09:27
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zezuok, i know i downloaded a file from freshmeat themes and it said the file format was invalid, so i assumed it was the wrong type for gnome09:27
zielonyHow can I upload whole folder to a server, using console 'ftp' ?09:27
jaycee_N770Anyone do /home sharing across multiple machines?09:27
zezuthe "themes" on the gnome site are nothing more than png files ;|09:27
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zezusome of them anyways09:28
jemtIs it possible to make 'java' point to /opt/jdk1.5/bin/java ? That would, I guess, count for a "real" java installation. Also I need to point NetBeans to that location, but I think I can handle that09:28
kingspawnzielony: put?09:28
nickrudzezu: you want gtk themes, metacity (window border) themes and icon themes. (and yes, some come out badly in my experience, too)09:28
zielonybut put dont work with folder09:28
GURTcan someone help me get java working in firefox? i installed java from http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/09:29
kingspawnzielony: put -R?09:29
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painkilerhey guys09:29
_jasonGURT: what version of firefox?09:29
painkilerhow do i give premisson to users so they can view an ntfs hdd?09:29
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_jasonubotu: tell painkiler about ntfs09:29
GURT_jason: 1.5.0.109:29
frank23jemt: why don't you just follow the wiki instructions for java. It's better to install a .deb if you can09:29
_jasonubotu: tell GURT about ff1.509:29
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sebastianpainkiler: via fstab?09:29
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painkiler? donno09:29
_jasonGURT: just do the plugin step on that wiki page (you just symlink to your firefox1.07 plugins directory)09:30
painkilerill work on it09:30
sebastianpainkiler; wait a second09:30
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zielonyftp> put -R09:30
zielonyremote: -R09:30
zielonylocal: -R: No such file or directory09:30
zielonykingspawn:09:30
jemtfrank23: Why is it better? What happens when Java 5 Update 7 is released? Then I haft to wait weeks - maybe months - before a .deb is produced09:30
Saminerunickrud thanks, that worked09:31
ftg2jemt: this is not exactly what you are looking for, but you can add the path to the java binaries to PATH before the location of the other java installation(s).. i agree with frank23 though. follow the wiki instructions, create a deb. saves a lot of hassel09:31
_jasonjemt: no, because you create the .deb09:31
frank23jemt: no, you can make a .deb from the .bin if you follow the instructions09:31
kingspawnzielony: okay. here's what you do, to get a real ftp client: apt-get install ncftp09:31
kingspawnand then start ncftp09:31
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sebastianpainkiler: im not sure, in my fstab it looks like this  /dev/xxx/ media/xxx ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,       0       009:31
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painkilerits ok09:31
painkileri just got the auto script09:31
zielonykingspawn: but I have to upload it from ssh, I can`t install anything there, dont have root acces09:31
jemtftg2, _jason, frank23: Yeah, true - I can create it my self - but why should I? I should be possible to install the software from SUN09:31
sebastianok09:31
GURT_jason: bash: cd: /opt/firefox/plugins/: No such file or directory09:31
_jasonGURT: change it to wherever you installed firefox1.509:32
ftg2jemt: hehe. believe me its easy. i did it in 10 mins on this laptop before class. needed javac running for the lab ;)09:32
lowfipainkiller: i think the default for ntfs mount is +rx for all users, so it should work09:32
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jemtAnd it IS possible - I have the VM extracted to my /opt/ directory now. I just don't want to type in '/opt/java/bin/java myProgram' each time I want to test one of my programs09:32
ardchoilleAny truth to the rumor of a 6 week delay of stable release?09:32
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Enthusiast78I'm trying to run something from the console to display a message on the X session... I'm starting with 'DISPLAY=:0.0 gedit /tmp/textfile.txt' but maybe somebody know another application that does just that task...09:32
sebastianI have a strange Bug running  Looking glass lg3d-app, anyone knows about it?09:32
jemtftg2: I just don't feel it's the right way of doing it09:33
_jasonjemt: then make a symlink to that somewhere in your PATH09:33
savononline agien, but it starts with a x dont whanna start thing agien09:33
savonhuuuu09:33
Enthusiast78I'd like something like 'DISPLAY=:0.0 xpopup Blah, blah, blah...'09:33
frank23jemt: because in a debian based distribution, it's always better to install with apt or dpkg. the system then knows what you have installed09:33
Enthusiast78Or if somebody know how to open gedit with some text from the command line... ???09:34
jemt_jason: I just realised that it's not a good solution. If I start a program from Gnome it will probably stille be intepreted by the old version09:34
HedgeMageardchoille: There was a meeting to debate it a couple of days ago, I have no clue what was decided in the end, though, as I went to bed.09:34
Enthusiast78I have tried 'echo "Some text" | gedit -' but it didn't work... :(09:34
jemtfrank23: Makes sense09:34
GURT_jason: thanks.09:34
gnomefreakEnthusiast78: you mean just to start gedit or to edit a file?09:34
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jemtOh well, guess I haft to create the .deb - thanks guys09:35
_jasonjemt: how come?09:35
ardchoilleHedgeMage: Good to hear from you :)09:35
jemt!java09:35
nagyvanyone familiat with the low id problem of amule? I know what it means, but don't know how to solve the problem.09:35
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:35
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sebastiangedit should not be able to run without x09:35
void^nagyv: open the ports.09:35
sebastianuse nano09:35
gnomefreaksebastian: it cant you have to have gnome09:35
nagyvvoid^: how?09:35
jemt_jason: Don't know really. Just a thought. How should a symlink keep my programs from running in the old VM?09:35
ncpwhat should i choose i locals UTF-8 or ISO-8859? and what is the difference?09:35
ardchoilleHedgeMage: PM?09:35
ftg2jemt: changing the PATH will work in the short run.. for a long time, before i would start writing code, i would cd in to the jdk bin dir and export PATH=`pwd`:$PATH ... etc09:35
sebastianok09:35
jemt_jason: But it dosn't matter. I'm gonna download Seveas .deb now09:36
_jasonjemt: just put it earlier in your path or get rid of the old one if you really want.  But I really think the .deb is the better option :)09:36
void^nagyv: if you're behind a router, forward them to your local pc. check your local iptables firewall (try firestarter for simplicity)09:36
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jemt_jason: Thanks - I'll go with the .deb then :)09:36
jemt!java09:36
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:36
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HedgeMageardchoille: sure09:36
frank23jemt: yeah the seveas .deb is probably made with make-jpkg so you get the same result as making it yourself09:37
Seveasfrank23, almost09:37
ncpwhat is the difference between UTF-8 and ISO-8859? what should i choose in my locals to get the correct charset?09:37
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frank23Seveas: it's not the same?09:37
SeveasI patched make-jpkg to not make the package depend on specific versions of libraries09:37
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Seveasso the packages don't generate dependency errors on dapper/breezy/warty/hoary/sid etc...09:38
Seveassuch errors would be quite bogus09:38
frank23Seveas: ok. so only the dependencies change.09:38
nickrudncp: iso 8859 are european characters ; utf8 has the ability to display just about any language, living or dead09:38
Seveasfrank23, correct09:38
jaycee_N770Anyone got an opinion on the "best" way to mount a filesystem over ssh?  sftp? sshfs? FUSE?09:39
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raindogWhen using the ubuntu partioning tool to resize my ntfs partition to make room for ubuntu the partitioning tool doesn't appear to do anything, but return to the previous menu.  On my win2k box the tool resized the ntfs without any troulble.  Can anyone help?09:39
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EvilDinanyone here know merak mail server?09:39
Seveasjaycee_N770, the only way to really mount it is sshfs, which is a FUSE module09:39
Seveasjaycee_N770, generally i use mc for sftp transfers09:39
Seveasor nautilus sftp://09:39
jemtSeveas: Is that good or bad? Does it mean I will be running on old libraries? (Java)09:40
jaycee_N770Thanks. I found shfs, but it seems out of date09:40
Seveasjemt, it's good - dh_shlibdeps is a bit too tight in this case09:40
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jaycee_N770I'm looking for a general system-wide solution.09:40
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Seveasjaycee_N770, then you should seriously look at NFS instead09:40
jaycee_N770Is FUSE mature enough?09:41
frank23jemt: the files in the package are the same. the same package can be installed on different versions of ubuntu. it's more flexible but exactly the same in the end09:41
SeveasI consider it mature enough09:41
jaycee_N770I'm aware of NFS and I've always found performance sucks ...09:41
Seveasnever had problems with sshfs09:41
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SeveasNFS performance is quite ok if you tweak it enough09:42
Seveasdefault NFS parameters in linux suck big time09:42
jaycee_N770Seveas,  thanks. I'll give FUSE a go.09:42
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C-O-L-T-AWAYCan I install GNOME 2.14 under Breezy?09:42
jemtSeveas: Ok, sounds great :)09:42
SeveasC-O-L-T-AWAY, probably not09:42
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C-O-L-T-AWAYSeveas: why?09:43
richardhow can i restart apache services?09:43
SeveasC-O-L-T-AWAY, if you want gnome 2.14: go with dapper - it's mature and stable enough for everyday use09:43
Seveasrichard, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart09:43
apokryphosrichard: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart09:43
apokryphosor that09:43
jaycee_N770Seveas, just one more - any opinion on which one integrates with ubuntu /and/ LDAP best?09:43
frank23what is the difference between sun java and blackdown java?09:43
nagyvvoid^: I started Firestarter, but there are no banned activities at all. My friends can use eMule in the college, so probably the routers are set up right. Do you have any other ideas?09:43
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jindWhen is Dapper out?09:43
C-O-L-T-AWAYSeveas: I should wait till the official release09:43
jindAproxemately?09:43
apokryphosfrank23: sun are propietary java packages by sun; blackdown...are not :)09:43
Seveasjaycee_N770, never having used ldap I really can't say09:43
apokryphosfrank23: most applications are friendlier when run with sun java09:44
jaycee_N770how about /just/ ubuntu, then? :-)09:44
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savonwhy is my internet slower on linux?09:44
frank23apokryphos: yes but they both are sun java's right?09:44
apokryphosjind: April09:44
Seveasjaycee_N770, equal09:44
jaycee_N770ta09:44
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apokryphosjind: some talk of 6-week delay however; sit tight for new news :)09:44
Seveaspoint is that sshfs is per-user, if I mount it, even root cannot access it09:44
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!lilo:*! http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days has the record :)09:44
Seveaswhich can be good or bad depending on your wishes09:44
jaycee_N770good point09:45
jindI have heard that too. Just wasn't sure when it was scheduled09:45
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SeveasNFS means you need to synchronise users09:45
simon__weird keyboard problem. Get intermittant functionality on the client keyboard. starts with appearing disabled at gnome desktop manager, then suddnely starts working after hitting lots of keys. any thoughts. i know keyboard is fine as works ok on staright edubuntu system09:45
jindI want it to be mature when it arrives. So: good news :)09:45
jaycee_N770.. but if i base uids on ldap, it might be doable ...09:45
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SeveasI'm very fond of NFS+NIS in a cluster setup, but for my home setup I'd rather use sshfs09:45
frank23jind: the proposed delayed release is for June 1st09:45
Seveasyeah, with ldap NFS shouldn't be a problem09:45
jindnfs is niiiice09:46
jaycee_N770cool - i'll give them both a go ... :-)09:46
jindNo access control though09:46
jindJust ro or rw access. But it works well here09:46
jaycee_N770jind: NFS, you mean?09:46
Seveasjind, access control is just file permissions09:46
jindjaycee_N770: sure09:46
Seveasit works very similar to a local disk 09:47
jaycee_N770I thought it was just normal octal permissions?09:47
Seveasjaycee_N770, yeah09:47
richardSeveas, apokryphos: this is the text which appear http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1035809:47
Enthusiast78gnomefreak, All I need is to display a message on X, like a 'popup'.09:48
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Seveasrichard, you probably installed both apache and apache2, remove one of them.09:48
jaycee_N770great - i'll give them a go ...09:48
Seveasrichard, nvm, i looked wrong09:48
Seveasrichard, use sudo.09:48
wastrelyay09:48
wastrelEnthusiast78:  xmessage09:48
aleitnerIs there a way (kernel boot parameter, or so) to disable kernel preemption, without the need to recompile the kernel?09:48
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wastrelEnthusiast78:  also gmessage if you use gtk/gnome09:49
raindogI'm trying to mount my floppy drive.  Can someone assist me?09:49
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Blissexraindog: yes.09:49
jemt!Seveas09:49
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:49
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instabin!wifi09:50
ubotufrom memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:50
Seveas!jemt09:50
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas09:50
kingspawnBlissex: dont you just love those kinds of answers? :)09:50
apokryphoss/semi/very/ :)09:50
raindogblissex:  I had it mounted and now it is no longer mounted.  I see it listed in fstab but am unsure what change to make for it to mount, permanently.09:50
Seveas!forget problem09:50
ubotui forgot problem, Seveas09:50
apokryphosSeveas: any stats on bandy usage?09:50
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Blissexkingspawn: yes :-)09:51
kingspawnraindog: why would you want your floppy to be mounted permantenly?09:51
Seveasapokryphos, not publicly accessible09:51
Seveas!ban cusco09:51
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas09:51
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kingspawnpermanently, that is.09:51
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apokryphosSeveas: you should put some up; it would be interesting :)09:51
kYdhey, which WM is the lightest on resources and space out of gnome,kde or xfce?09:51
techrushxfce09:51
HedgeMagekYd: xfce09:51
Blissexraindog: '/etc/fstab' is for _potential_ mounts. Actual mounts are in '/etc/mtab'.09:51
raindogkingspawn:  well, to mount it and to have it unmounted after a reboot is a pain.  So, perhaps not permanently, but consistent for the user logged in09:51
kYdok thanks...ive got kde atm but it seems sluggish on my laptop09:52
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HedgeMagekYd: of course, if you want *really* light you can go to fluxbox, or fvwm09:52
Blissexraindog: problem is, if you mount it permanently it must be always the same floppy and you cannot take it out.09:52
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ftg2kYd: i was always a big fan of WindowMaker and that NEXTish look09:52
kYdi dont really like the look of fluxbox tho09:52
ftg2kYd: anyways, its pretty lightweight09:52
adam_Help - I just upgraded to Breezy the other day and now I don't have any sound - at all09:53
kYdi havnt heard of them ftg2, ill take a loook09:53
kingspawnraindog: in linux, things must be unmounted before they are removed09:53
BlissexkYd: I have got excellent ''make KDE faster'' page.09:53
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kingspawnraindog: therefore it makes sense to mount it when you have inserted a new floppy, and unmount it when you remove it09:53
kYdcould you post the link peakse blissex09:53
kYd*please09:53
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BlissexkYd: yes :-)09:53
kYdthx09:53
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raindogkingspawn:  so I have to go to the cli every time I put in a new floppy and tell it to mount every timne?09:53
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kbrooksnalioth, well, is there a "how to help other ubuntu users" guide or something?09:54
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kYdcheers09:54
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apokryphoskbrooks: there's a guide to IRC + rules on the wiki if you want to check it out09:54
Blissexraindog: no, there are easy point-and-click methods of mounting/unmounting from the file explorer...09:54
kingspawnraindog: a little script will perform it for you very fast09:54
ftg2kYd: www.windowmaker.org, if you were interested in giving that a spin.09:54
kbrooksapokryphos, hehe ok i'll settle witth that. IrcRules ?09:54
Blissexraindog: if you use GNOME or KDE it is pretty similar.09:54
ubushineanyone use terminal to start apps and get this error message: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"09:55
kYdcheres ftg2, ill take a look09:55
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naliothkbrooks: that is it09:55
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raindogblissex kingspawn:  okay, I don't have it mounted currently.  What is the command to mount it?  Then after that I can just enter the file manager and select it to mount/unmount?09:55
gnomefreakfairly good reading too09:55
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jindkde is the way everything else is gay09:55
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jindJust kidding ;)09:55
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Blissexraindog: you can just mount/unmount from the file manager usually, depending which one you use.09:55
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albackergnome rox09:55
jkerox rox ^o)09:56
jindI really like konqueror with the plugins it provides09:56
Seveasdesktop wars > /dev/null09:56
jindlike imdb: name of movie09:56
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ubushineanyone know how to set (reset) localization?09:56
zFHi09:56
Blissexraindog: or with KDE (but I think also with GNOME) you can have a desktop icon that if you click on it mounts, click again unmounts.09:56
kingspawnraindog: or mount /dev/<device> /media/floppy - or wherever you like09:56
zFI'm trying to ssh into my ubuntu box09:56
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alterooSeveas: your everywhere :-D09:56
Seveasubushine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales09:56
jindaudiocd:/ for metadirectories with mp3, ogg, flac and the like09:56
Blissexubushine: dpkg-reconfigure locales09:56
einand_can ubuntu installations program rezise an NTFS partion?09:56
jemtSeveas: Are you an Ubuntu developer or "just" a package contributer and support?09:56
ubushineSeveas, ya? thanks09:56
meherenhey guys i want to do a fresh install on my windows/ubuntu machine about how long ya think it will take? what i plan to do is simply reformat the ubuntu partition (9gb of info on it...) and reinstall the ubuntu os09:57
zFBut when I run ssh <my host address> it returns "aeqitas@<host>'s password" when the usernmae on that machine is veritas09:57
Seveasjemt, why would that matter?09:57
jemtSeveas: Seems to me that you do quite a job in here :)09:57
zFso natuarally i can't log into my server09:57
zFWhat is going on?09:57
Seveaseinand_, yes it can09:57
zFI didn't touch anything on it09:57
jemtSeveas: I'm just currious09:57
Blissexmeheren: depending on how fast your disk/CD are. Something like 30-40 minutes is typical.09:57
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alteroomeheren: how fast much memory and processing power you have?09:57
einand_Seveas: without datalost09:57
SeveaszF, ssh your_username_ther@host09:57
Seveaseinand_, yes09:57
meherenwell it's a dell insprion 860009:57
jindmeheren: if you have a normally fast computer you should only need an hour, maybe two, depending how well you know what to do09:57
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einand_Seveas: the same for kubuntu i think, i thinking about trying that09:57
mehereni got 2.8gigherzz of proceins power09:58
Seveaseinand_, they use the same installer09:58
zFSeveas, why do I just now have to start doing this?09:58
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NickGarveywould the x-server allow me to run one computer in text mode, and have a client run the x-windows-server on that machine; sort of like VNC, but have the host computer be in text mode?09:58
meherenjind, ive done it on about 15-20 computers...09:58
SeveaszF, no idea - maybe your username was the same before now?09:58
jemtSeveas: Anyways, thanks for the SUN1.5 jackage :)09:58
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jemtI'm off - later09:58
alteroomeheren: it should be really quick then..09:58
zFSeveas, that was it -.-09:58
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einand_Seveas: tnx for the information09:58
BlissexNickGarvey: yes sure, thats exactly what it is designed for.09:58
alteroomeheren: come back and tell us how quick it was :-D09:58
SeveaszF, hint: you can plokn that in ~/.ssh/config so you don't have to type it all the time09:58
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ftg2meheren: install took something like 40min on this inspiron 6000. it was another hour to upgrade to dapper. a couple more hours of tweaking to get X to display the max resolution and to get the touchpad doing all its neat tricks09:59
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jindI use a day or so. But I install extrasoftware and tweak things up09:59
NickGarveyBlissex: when I am installing then, should I install server? or default09:59
jindLike the kernel09:59
meherenlol yeh... i gtg somewhere at 5:00 is the thing and was wondering if i could squeeze it in...09:59
zFSeveas, I'll remember that09:59
alteroomeheren: what time is it now?09:59
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zFSeveas, how do I transfer files using ssh?09:59
BlissexNickGarvey: ''server'' at install installs background servers, like email/DNS/SQL servers...09:59
zFsmtp... I think it was?09:59
Enthusiast78wastrel: Many thanks!!09:59
NickGarveyzp: scp09:59
SeveaszF, scp09:59
BlissexNickGarvey: probably you just want ''default''09:59
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zFcan I man scp?09:59
alteroomeheren: if you have an hour that should be enough... with much customization and stuff..10:00
SeveaszF, or with mc or nautilus10:00
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NickGarveyBlissex: alright, and I should have it boot in init 2?10:00
Seveasyeah, man scp is a good read10:00
meherenalteroo, k well here we go...10:00
savon!ati10:00
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358910:00
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BlissexNickGarvey: na, Debian/Ubuntu use another method to indicate ''dont start X''.10:00
alteroomeheren: aight.. good luck man10:00
jindzF: scp file1 user@host: (or user@host/ for the root of the computer)10:00
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Blissexubotu: no display manager?10:00
ubotuBlissex: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:00
Blissex!nodm10:00
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blissex10:00
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meherenalteroo, thx10:00
kbrookswell10:01
zFjind: is the user@host my host or the host I'm logged into with ssh?10:01
BlissexNickGarvey: anyhow, just put "none" in '/etc/X11/default-display-manager'10:01
Seveaskbrooks, broke your modem? ;)10:01
meherenis there a way i can do a network install from a install cd so i don't have to update once ive installed>10:01
BlissexNickGarvey: run level 2 is for non-networked operation.10:01
meheren*?10:01
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SeveasBlissex, not in Ubuntu10:01
jindzF: the last of cource. You need to identify to the ssh server on the remote side10:01
kbrooksSeveas, um, no.  :) i didnt get d/c. i killed X10:01
NickGarveyBlissex: sure? thats what I ran my web server on and I sshed into it10:01
SeveasBlissex, in ubuntu runlevel 2 through 5 are the same10:01
meherenbasically can i use a install cd as a network install cd...?10:01
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Seveaskbrooks, that's a way ;)10:02
ubushineSeveas, Blissex thanks for the tips but i'm still getting error when i try to run anything from terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"10:02
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BlissexNickGarvey: bah! these new kids on the block screw up runlevels :-)10:02
Seveasmeheren, yes10:02
jindI need food. bbl10:02
ubushineany other tips?10:02
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=== kbrooks well
Blissexubushine: have a look with 'locale -a'10:02
kbrookshow is ubuntu doing?10:02
kbrooksanything fancy? new?10:02
NickGarveyalright thanks a lot10:02
meherenseveas, how...?10:02
kbrooksby the way10:02
GTXhow do I un define  LANG/LOCALE10:02
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Seveasmeheren, lemme find the docs...10:03
kbrooksi discovered a dictionary applet.10:03
kbrooksadd it!10:03
ubushineBlissex, i see 3 error messages: eg "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory10:03
ubushine"10:03
meherenseveas, k thx10:03
Blissexubushine: more precisely, 'locale' to see which locale you chose, and then 'locale -a | less' to see which ones are available.10:03
[blah] why does my scroll wheel not work half the time?10:03
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b-ortest10:03
gnomefreakkbrooks: thats the same dictionary that is in the acceories menu10:03
raindogI see /dev/fd0/media/floppyO in etc/fstab but when i try to mount it it says can't find /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 in fstab or mtab10:03
Blissex[blah] : some programs are not very responsive to scroll events.10:03
Mystery47_Newbiehello!10:04
Blissexraindog: that's wrong there should be a space in there.10:04
b-orhello guys10:04
kbrooksgnomefreak, theni  didnt see it.10:04
Mystery47_NewbieI just have one guestion....How i can change gnome to KDE?10:04
kingspawnraindog: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy..10:04
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kbrooksthat or i dont use it.10:04
kingspawn(without the ..!)10:04
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gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:04
alterooMystery47_Newbie: without magic?10:04
raindogblissex kingspawn:  *blushes*  thanks.10:04
[blah] Blissex, It's not some programs.  Sometimes I boot and it works fine, others times it does not work at all in programs that respond to it (eg Mozilla)10:04
Blissexraindog: it should mount '/dev/fd0' (the floppu) as '/media/floppy' (or '/media/floppy0')10:04
alterooMystery47_Newbie: you want to isntall KDE and remove gnome?10:05
Mystery47_Newbieoh....and then i can choose that what i use...?10:05
alterooMystery47_Newbie: yes.10:05
gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: yes on the login screen under sessions10:05
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HE1Im having issues with my Wireless card (Linksys WPC54G VER 4 )  , i installed the driver but the laptop (acer) is not detecting the hardware10:05
raindogblissex kinspawn:  it says that I must specify the filesystem type.10:05
Mystery47_Newbiedoes that kde make bad to my stuff...what i ahd putted on gnome?10:05
jnoonanyone know how i can set my shell to make the delete key send ^H? its sending ^D right now10:05
gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: no10:05
GTXhow do I un define  LANG/LOCALE, also does anyone know how to get a "Samgsung CLP-510N working with ubuntu (networked)10:06
kbrooksare there any other good games?10:06
Mystery47_Newbieok...thanks...i just try....=)10:06
Blissexraindog: it should not be necessary if the floppy is already formatted, the default should be 'auto' (in the '/etc/fstab').10:06
gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: shouldnt change anything in gnome except the gdm if you choose kdm10:06
Blissexraindog: try just 'mount /media/floppy'10:06
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kbrooksgnomefreak, i think the kdm package condlicts with gdm. let me see.10:06
Blissexraindog: anyhow you are still keeping a secret with desktop environment/file manager you use.10:06
Seveasmeheren, install debian-installer-manual - that one should contain the info you need10:06
holycowdoes anyone use sabayon here? just curious about how people find it in general10:06
meherenk10:07
gnomefreakkbrooks: you have to choose what one you want10:07
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raindogblissex:  that did it. I'm using gnome.10:07
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kbrooksgnomefreak, oh? i forgot then.10:07
meherenthis has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen10:07
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chuckypAnyone know if installing kubuntu-desktop will bork my gnome menus?10:07
Blissexraindog: I don't use GNOME but it has cool icon/GUI methods of mounting stuff.10:07
Mystery47_Newbiewhat is that gdm and kdm?10:08
Mystery47_Newbiegnome desktop manager?10:08
chuckypMystery47_Newbie, that is the session manager10:08
Blissexraindog: ask perhaps in #GNOME for a suggestion10:08
Mystery47_Newbieoh...10:08
gnomefreakchuckyp: it wont you may need to install menu again though i dont know if that was fixed in dapper or not10:08
meherenchuckyp, kubuntu-dektop shouldn't do anythign to ur gnome stuff...10:08
gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: yes10:08
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meherenchuckyp, it didn't do anything to mine10:08
chuckypMystery47_Newbie, so if you run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart you will restart the session and x etc...10:08
BlissexMystery47_Newbie: no, it is the Display Manager, which is different from the desktop manager which is different from the session manager :-)10:08
linuxcrazyOn a scale of 1 to 10, what would you guys rate Ubuntu?10:08
gnomefreakgnome display manager10:08
chuckypgnomefreak, gotcha just wanted to check it out.10:09
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raindogblissex:  i found the mount/unmount previously.  I just was having trouble getting it to mount initially.  Many thanks to blissex and kingspawn.10:09
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BlissexMystery47_Newbie: one of the attractions of GNU/Linux/X is that it is very modulary10:09
chuckypgnomefreak, after this update is done cheese 111 packages10:09
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Mystery47_Newbieok....but everything is safe....and i can change it back at ease...?10:09
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gnomefreakkubuntu-desktop is a fairly big package chuckyp you could be there a while10:09
Blissexraindog: but you can mount/umount initiallu from Nautilus and GNOME too... I just can't remember how (I don't even have Nautilus installed :->)10:09
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gnomefreakMystery47_Newbie: yes10:10
painkilerhey guys10:10
chuckypgnomefreak, no i'm talking about all the oo updates today.10:10
painkilerhow do i get premisson to write in usb drives with out sudo?10:10
Mystery47_Newbieok....thats good to know...bec i have just good gnome desktop just now....and i dont want to mess my whole linux....10:10
linuxcrazydo you guys think Ubunut is a really good distro?10:10
painkilerlike drag and drop style10:10
chuckyppainkiler, mount it so your user's can write to it.10:10
gnomefreakoh those yes that was huge and i only had 20 at that time10:10
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gnomefreaklinuxcrazy: were kind of biased on that subject10:10
painkilerchuckyp: could i do it that everyone was writeable?10:11
Mystery47_Newbiei just wanted to try kde....if i like it maybe i change it permanently....cool desktop...10:11
chuckypgnomefreak, yeah I logged in and 111 updates today.10:11
kingspawnraindog: we aim to please.10:11
linuxcrazyOk i'll shut up10:11
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painkilerthat when you plug anyone in it will be10:11
Mystery47_Newbiethanks to all you ppl who helped me....10:11
Mystery47_Newbie=)10:11
einand_is there any iso burning program for windows that uses the consoll10:11
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painkilerwhat do i say to get it writeable?10:12
linuxcrazywhy do you need a burning program that uses the consoel?10:12
painkilersudo mnt what?10:12
linuxcrazye*10:12
meherenthis has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen10:12
gnomefreakeinand_: they might know more on #windows but im sure dos has commands you can use to burn10:12
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gnomefreakmeheren: background?10:13
linuxcrazywhy not just use nero?10:13
einand_gnomefreak: i was asking here my plan is to make an ubuntu.exe that downloads a iso and burn-it for my friend.10:13
chuckyppainkiler, yes10:13
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HowitzerDoes anybody know on how to use the output of a certain command for another command?, example: I like to play mp3's in TTY2 because i restart X a lot, however, with mpg123 i can't play a whole folder, i have to manually type the mp3's. What i want to do is make mpg123 play 'the output' of ls10:13
chuckyppainkiler, you could set it so that fstab mounts it that way.10:13
linuxcrazyany of you guys use looking glass?10:13
painkilerhow?10:13
painkilersorry a bit of a noob10:13
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kalphegorhow can i help ubuntu with a wallpaper? maybe default wallpaper for Dapper :) is there any visual/art team?10:13
chuckyppainkiler, i'm not too good with mounting stuff like that but I know it can be done.  Something with the umask and whatever in the fstab i'm sure someone else on here would know.10:13
Howitzereinand_, just make him download and burn it :/10:14
chuckyp!tell kalphegor about artwork10:14
painkiler!tell me about fstab10:14
einand_Howitzer: He do not own any burnprogram.10:14
alterooHowitzer: ls | mpg12310:14
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meherengnomefreak, no no im install ubuntu... and my screen im using is a small box in the center instead of the whole thing...10:14
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zFdo both machines need to have an sshd for scp to work?10:14
Mabus06einand_: does he use... windows xp?10:14
Howitzeralteroo, that's all?10:14
Mabus06Doesn't windows explorer burn cds?10:15
Howitzer|mp|, is that pipe?,10:15
alterooHowitzer: I thinks so..10:15
Howitzer.|, is that pipe?,10:15
einand_Mabus06: can you burn ISO files with winxp ?10:15
Howitzeri'll try it10:15
jonphilpotthas anyone compiled gnome 2.14 for hoary?10:15
Howitzereinand_, ofcourse10:15
alterooHowitzer: yeah,,10:15
Howitzerty!10:15
gnomefreak|=pipe10:15
painkilerwhat do i add in fstab to get it writeable?10:15
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jonphilpottgarnome failed for me.. trying jhbuild now.. or are there packages available?10:15
einand_Howitzer: i meen, without any extra program10:15
linuxcrazywinxp does not natively support ISO burning10:15
SaneEnglishMonkzF: no, just the machine you're copying it to10:15
Mabus06einand_: not sure... but if he's going to download the huge file of ubuntu I'm sure he can get alcohol 12010:15
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einand_Mabus06: thats illegal10:16
b-orwhere can i download the 6.04?10:16
Mabus06einand_: um, how is it illegal?10:16
linuxcrazyclear the thread!10:16
zFSaneEnglishMonk, so if I want to copy a remote file from a remote host that I connected to with ssh, I need my local machine to be running a sshd as well?10:16
gnomefreakubotu tell b-or about dapper10:16
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einand_Mabus06: also my plan is to find a free burner program to creat "installations programs"10:16
b-ortnx10:16
gnomefreakyw10:16
chuckyppainkiler, another place to try is #linuxhelp  there are a lot of knowledgable people in there.10:16
gnomefreaknm that10:16
gnomefreakb-or: type /topic10:17
SaneEnglishMonkzF: you can use 'scp remotehost:/path/to/file /location/on/local/host'10:17
chuckypzF, yeah sort of to use scp you would.10:17
linuxcrazyany of you guys registered at the MPC forums?10:17
kalphegor!tell me about artwork10:17
Howitzeralteroo, won't work, it just displays the map and gives the mpg123 --help at the same time :x10:17
alterooHowitzer: yes it is a pipe10:17
Howitzerlinuxboy, isn't that a cheating forum?10:17
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zFSaneEnglishMonk, I will try that, thanks.10:17
raindogI have a modem driver extracted to my HD.  It says to run the Makefile in it.  How do I 'run' the Makefile?10:17
alterooHowitzer: hmmm.. interesting..10:17
chuckypzF, SaneEnglishMonk for that to work port 22 on your local machine would need to be listening so yes you need ssh on that as well.10:17
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gnomefreakpeople artwork isnt a know fact10:17
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b-orwhere? to type?10:17
allaunhello everyone10:17
PieRhello10:17
allaunhow is everybuddy10:17
gnomefreakb-or: in here just like you are typing now10:17
savon!wireless10:17
PieR8)10:17
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers10:17
zFugh10:17
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zFI guess I'll just put a ftpd on the remote box and drag crap into that :/10:18
chuckypzF, you are trying to copy from remote to local right?10:18
zFYes.10:18
linuxcrazyhey you guys need to try out kororaa10:18
b-orgnomefreak:[23:21:36]  Not Enough Parameters10:18
allauni tried it10:18
allaunit didnt work10:18
linuxcrazyit gentoo that has already been configured10:18
gnomefreakgo to ubuntu.com you will see it there somewhere or if you never changed ff homepage its on there10:18
chuckypzF, then if ssh isn't listening locally its not that hard to enable.  just edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config or whatever its called.10:18
chuckyp!ssh10:18
ubotuwell, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH10:18
allaunit was a complete phailure10:18
ObstfliegeI installed ubuntu onmy notebook. But during the installation at installing hotplug subsystem there was no reaktion anymore...10:18
linuxcrazyphailure hahahahahaha10:19
chuckypObstfliege, it locked up you mean?10:19
Obstfliegeyes10:19
linuxcrazyditch the lappy10:19
Obstfliegeno reaktion to strg-c10:19
gnomefreakObstfliege: what usb things do you have plugged in?10:19
meherenok cool,... looks as if i got a super fast hd on this thing....10:19
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b-ortopic10:19
trappistObstfliege: I've seen that complaint a LOT.  you might look for a bug report on malone.10:19
gnomefreakb-or:  with the /10:19
meherenit's flying through the install procedjers...10:19
zFDo I just uncomment Port 22, chuckyp10:20
b-ori did10:20
zF?10:20
meheren(i no it's spelled worng...)10:20
Obstfliegemouse and keyboard10:20
meheren*wrong10:20
chuckypzF, hold up let me check10:20
gnomefreakb-or: /topic should tell you the topic10:20
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b-orgnomefreak: i know that... but i can't get it work10:20
allauni'm upgrading 5.0410:20
allauni had a cd laying alone10:20
gnomefreakb-or: here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight510:20
meherenis there a way to get marathon on ubuntu? (it's a really old mac game... they have it for next and mac os x...)10:20
Obstfliegetrappist: where can i find it?10:20
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Howitzerhmm alteroo, do you know if there is a 'variable' like $USER or $PWD, but instead lists the files in the directory?10:21
adam_I'm having trouble with direct rendering... whenever I run 'glxgears' I get "illegal operation" but glxinfo says I have direct rendering on, what could possibly be the problem?10:21
b-orgnomefreak: tnx dude, when is the next "flight"?10:21
adam_I have the i810 Intel integrated graphics card10:21
gnomefreakb-or: supposed to be beta on march 23rd but we will see what happens with the delay10:21
trappistObstfliege: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu10:21
chuckypzF, check out the link ubotu is sending you tells you how to install ssh server on your ubuntu box and how to use scp everything you need to know10:21
chuckyp!tell zF about ssh10:21
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alterooHowitzer: not that I know off..10:22
Mercutio150Anyone in here familiar with Wine?10:22
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mehereni am10:22
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HowitzerMercutio150, yes10:22
gnomefreakMercutio150: feel free to ask your question if someone knows they will answer you10:22
Mercutio150do you think you could help me get it running10:22
meherenmercutio150, very why?10:22
Mercutio150the wiki isn't very helpful10:22
meherensure10:22
kingspawnit seems to me that most people switch to linux to be able to run windows programs.10:23
meherenmercutio150, ummm apt-get install wine or xwine...10:23
Mercutio150I try to WIne something but it keeps giving me an error10:23
PaladinoFugaceHi! I have a very simple question about Ubuntu.  Once I have installed the single CD,  if I want a to develop... say... in Ada,  I have to install the packages from the 'net, right?.  There is no such a thing like a 2 DVDs version with all the packages or something,  right?10:23
kingspawni find it almost infinitely annoying.10:23
meherenmercutio150, then run winecfg10:23
b-orgnomefreak: if i'll download the corrent.. can i "upgrade" it to the beta without downloading the whole cd?10:23
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kingspawnPaladinoFugace: no such thing.10:23
Mercutio150ok any specific settings to look for?10:23
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gnomefreakb-or: yes you will just do normal updates10:23
gnomefreakb-or: its still pretty tempermentle10:24
PaladinoFugacekingspawn  thanks10:24
Mercutio150ok I am in wincfg10:24
Mercutio150but I don't know what settings to modify10:24
meherenanyone here know what kernel i should install? (the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?10:24
b-orgnomefreak: ok.. sorry for the "noobish" questions.. i'm still linux "virgin"..10:24
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meherenim doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...10:25
xcelhej! i have a easyquestion! tell me any good FTP client!!10:25
meheren(i got a dell inspirion 860010:25
gnomefreakb-or: if your that new to linux i would stick with ubuntu 5.10 for saftey reasons10:25
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Obstfliegetrappist: sorry but i am blind or just to stupid to find it :D10:25
gnomefreakxcel: gftp?10:25
Tomcat_http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/16/1954251&from=rss "Automatix Kicks Ubuntu into Gear" <--- maybe someone wants to warn people there... I only heard Automatix was bad, but I don't have any details.10:25
ftg2kingspawn: i know a few noobs running linux because their hardware is pretty much done for.. blue screens, random crashes, etc. now their machines run like there is nothing wrong with them but all they can do is complain its not windows :(10:25
gnomefreak!automatix10:26
ubotuit has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.10:26
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xcelgnomefreak i can apt-get gtpd? :)10:26
meherenim doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...10:26
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meheren(i got a dell inspirion 860010:26
zFwoot. I didn't need to change anything after al.10:26
gnomefreakgftp yes10:26
xcelthx!10:26
cafuegomeheren: i686 then10:26
gnomefreakxcel: sudo apt-get gftp (iirc thats the name of package)10:26
Tomcat_Thanks gnomefreak, I'll probably just post that. :)10:26
b-orgnomefreak: LOL... and white the 5.10.. can i do "normal updates" for the 6.04.. or i'll have to download the cd?10:26
mehereni don't have the option for the i686...10:26
xceli know :-) thank you10:26
kingspawnftg2: heh, yeah. i wouldnt run linux if i mostly played games etc. Its okay wanting to play a game or two, but seems 70% of the questions in here is how to emulate windows. My answer would be: install windows, or atleast run a dual boot.10:27
cafuegomeheren: ... so I am supposed to just guess?10:27
meherencafuego, i don't have the option for the i686... i showed u all my options (or rather told...)10:27
Mercutio150IO am just trying to use wine for a few games I like10:27
adam_need help with direct rendering -- I'm getting "Illegal operation" when trying to load up glxgears (and screensavers that utilize opengl, don't work)10:27
cafuegoyou did?10:27
gnomefreakb-or: when it becomes stabel you can apt-get dist-upgrade with a lil more work but10:27
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Howitzerwhat does stdout do? :/ (stdout in mpg123)10:27
cafuegomeheren: Ah, linux-386 (It will auto-fetch the latest version)10:27
ftg2kingspawn: yup. in fact i wanted to pass my classes this semester so i wiped the windows partition.. no more counter-strike == better grade :)10:27
meherenthese r my options(the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?10:27
Croperzit's the output thingie!10:27
gnomefreakb-or: there will also be an upgrading tool10:28
meherenk10:28
Mercutio150I am having troubles running programs though10:28
kingspawnftg2: hehe, yeah. i never play games anymore, and i get a lot of stuff done :)10:28
cafuegomeheren: (They will in fact all install the same kernel anyway, only linux-i386 will keep auto-upgrading it)10:28
meherencafuego, oh lol... well thx10:28
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meherenso when i boot i should install the 686 kernel then?10:29
Croperzslightly oprimised!10:29
ebelI'm playing with video drivers. But init 3 doesn't kill all the Xorg. How do I restart X?10:29
xcelgnomefreak well wtf... i did sudo apt-get install gftpd and i t says it cant find the package10:29
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b-orgnomefreak: ok... i'll first need to free some hardrive space before installing... so your advice is to install the breezy?10:29
gnomefreakgtfp10:29
gnomefreakgftp*10:29
xcelah10:29
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_jasonebel: ctrl+alt+backspace10:29
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meherencafuego, since you seem to no about kernels what should i put on a dell inspirion 8200?10:30
HowitzerHow do i make a symlink?10:30
cafuegomeheren: Well, there ptobably won't be much performance difference.10:30
ebel_jason, I know that kills X, isn't that supposed to be a bit unsafe?10:30
_jasonHowitzer: ln -s10:30
kingspawnmehren: give i386 a go10:30
richardhow can i create pdf?10:30
cafuegomeheren: Dell is all i686 unless it's over 8 years old.10:30
kingspawnits over 8 years!! (im sorry)10:30
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Howitzerty10:30
kingspawnsometimes i get a little grumpy10:30
_jasonebel: I haven't heard of that personally10:30
meherencafuego, k.... so i686 on all dells...10:30
gnomefreakebel: you can log out of gnome/kde than do it safely10:30
max300does anyone know were i can find an ftp cacker for linux?10:30
xcelgnomefreak really thx for helping a noob :D10:31
kingspawnebel: its not unsafe at all10:31
MrRiomax300: cacker?10:31
meherencafuego, 7500 included?10:31
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cafuegomeheren: Yep, except on their Itanium servers.10:31
max300password cracker10:31
kingspawnebel: it has killed x since time immemorial (nearly)10:31
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max300like brutforce10:31
_jasonrichard: OOo writer lets you export to pdf, that is one way10:31
kingspawnif you need an "ftp cacker", just use the included "ftp"10:31
cafuegomax300: You want us to help you hack into a system?10:31
ebel_jason, kingspawn, Oh, OK. I thought it was a bit like just pulling the plug on a machine.10:31
kingspawnit really is "cack"10:31
Jeff__hey, does the ubuntu installation cd have a repair option? i accidentally damages linux-image10:31
max300no not realy lol10:31
Jhairftpcacker?10:31
belkinwhy mplayer package is broken for streaming videos ?10:31
max300its my modem10:31
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raindog_I can't figure out the command to install a modem driver that I have downloaded and extracted.  Can someone assist me??10:31
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gnomefreakebel: its not the _best_ way to do it but it works10:32
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ubuntu_ciao10:32
dolmenhow can I change package repositories priorities ?10:32
_jasonbelkin: it's not over here, what happens that makes you think it is broken?10:32
kingspawnraindog: what format is the driver yo uhave downloaded?10:32
MrRioraindog_: where and what is the driver?10:32
meherencafuego, well never heard of a itanium server so.... lol10:32
ebelgnomefreak, is there a better way? I thought init 3 then init 5 was the way, but that isn't working.10:32
belkin_jason doesnt work :)) some other people said the same thing ?10:32
richard_jason: 00o writer is a program?10:32
max300does anyone know were i can find an ftp password cacker for linux?(brutforce)10:32
raindog_MrRio: It is a driver for a Lucent/Agere softmodem.  It's in my /home/user directory.10:32
belkin_jason what makes you think its not ?10:32
_jasonbelkin: give me an example10:32
cafuegomeheren: Intels attempt at a 64bit architecture. Costs about as much as a cray these days.10:32
_jasonbelkin: because it works :)10:33
gnomefreakebel: there is a command for it but i dont remember it off hand10:33
ubuntu_salve10:33
kingspawni have such a distaste for gui's that ctrl-alt-backspace is the perfect way :)10:33
nickruddolmen: by using apt-pinning , in /etc/apt/preferences (you'll need to create it) man apt_preferences tells you how10:33
gnomefreakebel: i log out than do it10:33
raindog_MrRio:  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ageresoftmodem/10:33
cafuegoointment10:33
meherencafuego, what is the difference between the i386 and i686 kernels it can't be that much if they both run on a 386 and 686 cpu...10:33
belkin_jason say what ?? it doesnt work here10:33
_jasonrichard: open office writer in applications menu > office10:33
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dolmennickrud, thx10:33
belkin_jason did i miss anything ?10:33
_jasonbelkin: ok, let's try to figure out why.  Give me an example link that doesn't work for you10:33
cafuegomeheren: i386 also runs on pentiums and 486es, has some bakcward compatibility stuff10:33
belkin_jason do i have to create any symlink for the pluging or apt will do it for me ?10:33
ftg2meheren: i686 is an i383.. backwards compatible. its the same instruction set (with additional instructions)10:33
ebelgnomefreak, OK10:33
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belkin_jason it would be a lot easyer to tell you what worked for me " Nothing "10:34
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_jasonbelkin: wait is your question ``why is mplayer plug-in broken?'' or ``how do I install mplayer plug-in?''10:34
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MrRioraindog_, the readme says extract it, then type 'sudo make install'10:34
Obstfliegetrappist: i cant find it can you please send me a link?10:34
meherenah i got it...10:34
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meherenok thx10:34
b-ori have 64bit cpu.. is it still recommended to run the 32bit dist?10:34
MrRioraindog_, without quotes10:34
belkin_jason apt-get install should do the trick10:35
_jasonbelkin: you are confusing me :)10:35
ebelSo is there an easy way to *start* X if it's not running?10:35
raindog_MrRio:  I have.  It says command not found.10:35
HowitzerWhen i symlink a folder from partition A to partition B, will the files in the original folder from partition A, be copied onto partition B?10:35
ebelI /could/ reboot, but I'd rather have an easier way....10:35
_jasonebel: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start10:35
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MrRioraindog_: you need build-essential from synaptic10:35
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belkin_jason now im asking you . " do i need to symlink the file in to the firefox plugind directory " ?10:35
_jasonbelkin: not if you install mplayer plug-in (mozilla-mplayer) package10:36
ebel_jason, thanks. :)10:36
belkin_jason if you like to help me then give me some hints or something10:36
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raindog_MrRio:  Ah, I see.  I'll have to download it with my other box.  Thanks for the help.10:36
belkin_jason well then . thats what i just installed ;)10:36
kingspawnebel: startx10:36
JhairHowitzer: no, they will not be copied, that is the idea of symbolic links...10:36
MrRioraindog_: its a deb that includes all the stardard make toold for ubuntu10:36
MrRiotools*10:36
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_jasonbelkin: ok now is it actually getting used?  put about:plugins in your address bar and see if there is something else other than mplayer being used10:37
jorthello, can somebody help me to install nvidia drivers?10:37
_jasonubotu: tell jort about nvidia10:37
mlehrerit should just magically install them on install; at least dapper seems to10:37
stperehi, is there a final decision about dapper delaying?10:37
jorti executed the program but it says; error: nvidia-installer must be run as root10:37
fluxtjort: whats the problem installing them?10:37
meherengtg (btw the install is done total time [no config] = 1/2 hour :) )10:37
_jasonjort: check your private messages from ubotu10:38
h36sahi, I have a inspiron 5100 (desktop p4/2.4) and running gentoo, using cpufreq and p4-clockmod I was able to throttle my cpu to several different speeds, some of them very low (87% throttled)... This all seemed to work well, and kept my battery healthy and the temp low. My disk crashed and I reinstalled with ubuntu... althought my system sees 8 different states in /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling, the system only throttles betwee10:38
kingspawnjort "sudo" before whatever needs to be run as root10:38
belkin_jason that shows me the " Installed plug-ins " it doesnt show me whats being used right now10:38
jorti'm very noob but i dont really know what a root is10:38
raindog_MrRio:  using synaptic requires me to already have internet access on my ubuntu box, doesn't it?  Or can I just download and install the build-essentials.deb manually?10:39
_jasonbelkin: does it list anything other than mplayer? maybe xine or vlc or totem?10:39
h36sajort: it's like the Administrator account10:39
IdleOne!tell jort about root10:39
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h36saraindog: you can use dpkg to install it locally10:39
jorthmm, i'm the only one using it so i must be admin?10:39
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kingspawnjort: root can do anything on your computer10:39
h36saI think apt-get can do it also.. not sure about synaptic10:39
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kingspawnjort: for security reasons you are logged in as a normal user10:39
fluxtjort: the account you're using isn't10:40
nrymiguelhi ppl10:40
IdleOnejort> in a sense yes you are root but at the same time you arent10:40
kingspawnroot is only to be used when you need to do things such as installing drivers10:40
bluefoxicyhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/35248  I recall this happened in breezy too, can anyone confirm and backport printing regressions to breezy too?  :(10:40
jortok10:40
belkin_jason  no . it list me the mplayer plugins Google VLC multimedia ; QuickTime Plug-in ; RealPlayer 9 ....10:40
jortso how do i manage it to be a root10:40
h36sajort: irc doesn't let you on as root :)10:40
kingspawnjort: playing games doesnt need the ability to change the system drastically10:40
h36sajort: type sudo COMMAND10:40
h36sasudo runs commands as root.10:40
IdleOnejort>  read the msg from ubotu  it will explain how to use sudo10:40
jortlogin again and login as an admin10:40
nrymiguelcan anyone give the way to convert rpm to deb for Skype10:40
IdleOnejort no10:40
h36saok.. now to cpu throttling?10:41
Tempest2kwhat is easyest distro to get xgl working on ?10:41
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jortroger i will read ubotu's msg fisrt10:41
Jhairnrymiguel: alien <rpm_package>10:41
IdleOne!tell jort  about sudo10:41
_jasonbelkin: can you put 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?10:41
IdleOne!tell jort  about cli10:41
nrymiguelmerci jhair10:41
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kingspawnthe linux community has gotten a lot friendlier from the time i started using it. an nice change. asking a question in #slackware in 1998 most likely got you banned.. :)10:41
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kingspawnfrom=since10:42
ardchoillesudo apt-get dist-upgrade did nothing. Do I need to change my sources.list?10:42
TacoMan I'm haveing problems getting my ntfs hdd to mount using the kubuntu live cd...10:42
kingspawnthe beer makes me crazy.10:42
TacoMananyone have any suggestions?10:42
_jasonTacoMan: what kind of problems?10:42
IdleOnekingspawn>  not all distro's get the same type of support from it's users...Ubuntu has a great community10:42
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Jhairkingspawn: what did they talk about in #slackware then?10:42
kingspawnIdleOne: indeed it has :) that's why i take such pleasure in trying to help out with what little i know. i actually remember what it felt like to get "RTFM" to every question i ever asked :)10:43
MrRioraindog_: u can install the deb manually, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb10:43
fluxtIdleOne: except me being the incarnation of evil in it's purest form10:43
belkin_jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1035910:43
TacoMancacan't do it10:43
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kingspawnfluxt: sometimes evil is needed. without it there would be no good, etc etc ;)10:43
MrRioraindog_, then move it to you net-less box and type  sudo dpkg -i build-essential_11.1_i386.deb10:43
TacoMandrive is recognized as hda110:43
raindog_MrRio: Thanks so much for all your help.  It's really appreciated.10:43
ftg2kingspawn: i know what you mean. i to remember being told to rtfm.. then at one point i was the one telling others to rtfm lol10:43
fluxtnow i suggest you enable wake on lan in the bios and wire your rj45 to mains10:43
PaoloChi all, I'm on Drapper. Is it possible to have jvm working in FireFox?10:43
IdleOnekingspawn>  I got RTFM from a couple a diff distro's and even when using windows I got that10:43
kingspawnftg2: yes, its an extremely easy step to take ;))10:44
MrRioraindog_: sorry, i pasted that link a bit funny last time, here you go http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb10:44
IdleOneok lets stay on topic10:44
gnomefreakubotu tell PaoloC about java10:44
IdleOneheya gnomefreak10:44
_jasonbelkin: ok, have you installed codecs for the files you are trying to view?  most likely w32codecs are needed10:44
kingspawnIdleOne: hehe, yeah, me too. sometimes it is needed, though.10:44
gnomefreakhi IdleOne10:44
Francisco_jason, hello10:44
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Franciscocan you help me?10:44
_jasonFrancisco: just ask the channel, I will help if I can10:44
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TacoMansill can't mnt...10:44
belkin_jason yes10:44
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belkin_jason w32codecs installed10:45
TacoMantried to use the graphical manager10:45
max300i got this error while installing hydra "make: *** [hydra-sip.o]  Error 1"10:45
TacoMandidn't do anything10:45
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Franciscoanyone can help me? I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??10:45
_jasonbelkin: does it work if you try to use mplayer from the command line?10:45
Franciscoanyone can help me? how I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??10:45
Jhairmax300: paste whole log in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:45
kingspawnTacoMan: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /wherever doesnt work?10:45
belkin_jason nope :)10:45
meirmfrancisco hablame en privado10:45
_jasonbelkin: can you put the output on pastebin?10:46
IdleOne!tell Francisco  about es10:46
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fluxtany irssi users in here that can tell me how to search a window for text? :)10:46
ftg2Francisco: i think iwlist will do that10:46
belkin_jason yeah10:46
ftg2Francisco: or iwconfig10:46
Franciscoftg2, I have tried whit this but it does not work.."10:47
sailorI've got a quick question... I dual boot windows and Breezy, and have another partition onto which I want to install and test Dapper... If I install Dapper there, will it totally overwrite my boot sector, and if so, will it detect and configure it to boot windows, breezy, and dapper?10:47
ftg2Francisco: :(10:47
LinuxJonessailor: it should yeah10:47
tristanmikesailor, should install grub the same way breezy did10:47
belkin_jason http://pastebin.com/606242  here is the error and line 12 its fontconfig = yes in my config file10:47
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sailorso it should detect the other OSs just fine?10:48
LinuxJonessailor: make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst jsut to be on teh safe side :)10:48
logarithmfluxt: /lastlog search_term10:48
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sailorLinuxJones, thanks, I was planning on it10:48
lesshastebelkin: paste the whole output using mplayer -v10:48
_jasonbelkin: how about getting rid of that line?10:48
fluxtthatnks logarithm :)10:48
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raindog_The ubuntu partioning tool (in the installer) doesn't work correctly when trying to resize the ntfs partition on my xp box, but worked like a charm on my win2kpro box.  Anyone have any suggestions about how to get the partitioning tool to work so that I don't have to wipe my xp install?10:49
jortgetting strange reject :S jort@dell:~$ gksudo gedit10:49
jort(gedit:10761): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:10:49
jortAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.10:49
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Franciscoftg2, eth1      radio off  ESSID:off/any10:49
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hmrochahello10:49
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Franciscothis is the tex when I type iwconfig10:49
belkin_jason mplayer won`t even start without that10:49
Jeff__is there a way to have vnc access to my linux box through the net? is there a site for it or something?10:49
hmrochai'm running breezy and i want to install emacs-snapshot-gtk10:49
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_jasonbelkin: install mplayer-fonts10:49
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pvd2006wow, 703 people10:49
Jeff__i don't mean through a program, i mean through a website10:50
LinuxJonesraindog_: you slected manually partition the drive ?10:50
hmrochait says that i must remove dictionaries-common to install emacsen-common10:50
belkin_jason http://pastebin.com/60625010:50
belkinlesshaste http://pastebin.com/60625010:50
raindog_LinuxJones:  I selected to manually edit the partition table.10:50
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hmrochabut i want to force the instalation, how can i do that?10:50
belkin_jason are installed already10:50
fluxtJeff__: yeah i read there was a way to do that.. i forgot how10:50
kingspawnfluxt: logging everything and then searching it? ;)10:50
gnomefreakhmrocha: you really dont want to force the install :(10:50
LinuxJonesraindog_:  so you have free space available but the installer can't create the partitions for you ?10:50
Jeff__fluxt, i know about logmein.com and gotomypc.com, but i don't believe you can get either of them on a linux10:51
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_jasonbelkin: is that the mplayer from the repos?10:51
Jeff__could you at least help me look for something? i don't even know what keywords to use10:51
Jeff__:(10:51
gnomefreakhmrocha: let it remove it and than see if you cant install the dictionary package again10:51
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fluxtJeff__: are you sure one of the VNC's dont support web based operation?10:51
pvd2006Anyone know of any good ways to tweak Gnome to run faster? I tried some stuff last night from the ubuntu website on performance and it messed up gnome and I had to restart.10:51
nijan_Hello, I could run easy ubuntu but if try to install anithing it's been failing with this message:/usr/lib/python2.4/subprocess.py", line 975, in _execute_child10:51
nijan_    raise child_exception10:51
nijan_OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory10:51
hmrocharemoving dictionaries-common will remove openoffice, ubuntu-desktop and a lot more packages10:51
raindog_LinuxJones:  right now there is one ntfs partition that takes up the whole drive.  However, the windows install is very small compared to the size of the partition.  What happens is I try to resize it and it says that the resize failed.10:52
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gnomefreakubuntu-desktop is allowed to go what openoffice is it?10:52
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snooky_hi @ all10:52
belkin_jason yes10:52
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LinuxJonesjeff_ , tightvnc has a module to use in a webbrowser for remote administration10:52
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hmrochagnomefreak: forget about it, i'll leave the emacs21 package and not the emacs-snapshot-gtk10:52
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LinuxJonesraindog_: did you do a defrag on the drive ?10:53
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_jasonbelkin: so removing the fontconfig thing does what?10:53
raindog_LinuxJones:  only about 20 of them.  :)  I was trying to get the data to be as contiguous as possible.10:53
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mlehrerso the i686 version of dapper seems to outperform the amd64 version on my 3500+, when playing back hi def content in VLC10:53
hmrochagnomefreak:  i just wanted students to have emacs with gtk2 instead of the "standard" one10:53
mlehrerinteresting10:53
LinuxJonesraindog_: heh10:53
gnomefreakhmrocha: xemacs10:54
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hmrochagnomefreak: xemacs has gtk2 interface with pango fonts?10:54
gnomefreakxemacs has menus and stuff10:54
chuckypgnomefreak, Do you know of an easy way to remove kubuntu-desktop after i'm done with it.10:54
ploom has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??10:54
hmrochagnomefreak: i'll install it on my pc just to give it a try10:55
bimberiJeff__: there are vnc-java and tightvnc-java packages available to enable vnc from a java enabled web browser10:55
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ploomdon't know if there already is a bug for it10:55
max300y does evry one keap on sending me to this link "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/" it doesnt work and its slow10:55
Jeff__bimberi, cool..i.'ll google 'em in10:55
belkin_jason this will be the output then http://pastebin.com/60627510:55
ploom...when making it into a vfat partition - not the ext (linux) one at least10:55
seliniumhi all, How do i recurse through a folder showing all files that contain 'foo'10:55
fluxtmax300: if pastebin doesn't work, request a person to join #flood and paste it there10:55
hmrochagnomefreak: i have dapper here, emacs-snapshot-gtk install fine10:56
gnomefreakchuckyp: there is a lib to remove something like lib3-mt but dont do it unless you know the lib for sure10:56
linuxcrazycan I get all of the packages that are out there if I use synaptic?10:56
gnomefreakhmrocha: i thought you said breezy :(10:56
NickGarveyselinium: probably ls -r foo*10:56
fluxtmax300: and yeah, seems the site is down for the moment10:56
NickGarveyselinium: probably ls -r *foo*10:56
NickGarveyif you want file names10:56
hmrochagnomefreak: yes, students use breezy10:56
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NickGarveynot sure though I'd check the manual10:56
NickGarveyI'm runnig windows right now10:56
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fluxtmax300: wait, no it's just incredibly slow10:56
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seliniumNickGarvey, I nedd to find 'foo' in the file, not the file name   :)10:56
NickGarveyah10:56
asylumiusCan anyone tell me the package that contains mysqli, or perhaps a link with some documentation on installing php5 with mysqli?10:56
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gnomefreakhmrocha: i dont even remember that package in breezy (but not sure)10:57
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IdleOne!tell asylumius about apache10:57
hmrochagnomefreak: forget about it then, i'll leave the emacs2110:57
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linuxcrazyIf someone has a slow internet connection with breezy badger, do this:10:57
max300fluxt: y u think it actualy helps?10:57
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hmrochagnomefreak: i'll install dapper in the next semester (september)10:57
asylumiusIdleOne: thanks.10:57
IdleOneasylumius>  no problem10:58
linuxcrazyhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox10:58
fluxtselinium:  grep -r <text> ./*10:58
tristanmike!ubuntuguide10:58
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead10:58
ploomeven my mum uses breezy now :-p10:58
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linuxcrazyread it it will make your internet connection much faster10:58
tristanmikelinuxcrazy, please don't advise ubuntuguide.org10:58
linuxcrazyread it!10:59
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linuxcrazyyou open mozilla and type about: config10:59
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IdleOnelinuxcrazy>  thank you  for the link but ubuntuguide is generaly not a good place for help10:59
tristanmikelinuxcrazy, please read what ubotu thinks about ubuntuguide10:59
hmrochagnomefreak: it would be great if anyone coded pango support in emacs :)10:59
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linuxcrazyok fine, but if you do what it says it will speed up your connection10:59
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: usually help.ubuntu.com will give you better advice.10:59
linuxcrazyhave you read and done what it says to do?11:00
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bimberilinuxcrazy: or in this case ...11:00
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bimberi!ipv6disable11:00
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv411:00
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide11:00
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead11:00
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tristanmikelinuxcrazy, ubuntuguide is never updated, so if things change, it won't let you know, thus help.ubuntu.com11:00
gnomefreak^^^ theres a guide11:00
fluxtlinuxcrazy: i use the fasterfox plugin ;)11:00
gnomefreakas for ff config i got that on my personal site11:00
gnomefreakand so do most people :)11:01
max300any1 know wat this means "hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable resp11:01
max300hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable mu11:01
max300hydra-sip.c:60: warning: unused variable urp"?11:01
gnomefreakits also in your help icon11:01
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_jasonbelkin: one sec, i have to take care of something11:01
nrymiguelplease the URL to install Skype11:01
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gnomefreak!skype11:02
ubotuI heard skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/11:02
gnomefreak^^use seveas package11:02
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linuxcrazydo this Aopen firefox, type about config, then type network.dns.disableIPv6 then change it to true11:02
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linuxcrazyx the A11:02
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bobyfixeroi tudo bem ?11:02
nazgulwalkerwhat was the url for autoconfigure of mylist??11:02
linuxcrazythen type network.http.pipelining  change that to true11:03
fluxt!pt11:03
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:03
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bobyfixeralguem fala portugues aqui ?11:03
jorthmm cant solve this problem; how do i login as a root ?11:03
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george__espaol?11:03
linuxcrazythen type network.http.pipelining.maxrequests and thange it to 811:03
IdleOne!tell bobslaede  about pt11:03
tristanmike!tell jordo23 about root11:03
thompais there a special place for us folks with laptops?11:03
linuxcrazythen type network.http.proxy.pipelining and change it to true.\11:03
tristanmikesorry jordo23 that was for jort11:03
IdleOnethompa>  you found it11:03
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tristanmike!tell jort about root11:04
h36sacan anyone help me explain the cpu throttling limitation shown here: http://pastebin.com/606294 ?? why is it only going to 2.1ghz instead of much, much lower?11:04
Zarephathboyfixer: No11:04
ftg2i have everything on this laptop working now except the acpi, and that seems like a lost cause  :\11:04
jortthx11:04
fluxt!ar11:04
ubotufluxt: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:04
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linuxcrazywhat's the repositorie for wine?11:05
IdleOne!wine11:05
linuxcrazywine! yes11:05
naliothubotu: tell linuxcrazy about wine11:05
bobyfixero win rode no ubuntu ?11:05
tristanmike!wine11:05
thompaIdleOne: are you running a notebook, centrino m?11:05
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IdleOnewine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/" to your sources.list. (Doing this however will break winetools on Breezy) More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq11:05
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bobyfixerda pra rodar o wine no ubuntu ?11:05
MarHoolozhello11:05
IdleOnethompa>  no but I know alot of ppl running laptop in here so ask away and someone should be able to help you out11:05
linuxcrazyanybody use cedega?11:05
h36saftg2: I've had acpi completely functional on my laptop recently11:05
sarrahey. i've got a cranky install of rhythmbox (don't download random .deb files, self) that i want to remove, but when i try with synaptic it informs me it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well? :S11:06
MarHoolozyes Me11:06
MarHoolozcedega11:06
linuxcrazyany good?11:06
IdleOne!tell bobbynet  about wine11:06
nazgulwalkerwhat was the url for auto config my /etc/apt/sources.list ??11:06
h36sa... until I installed ubuntu that is :(11:06
Fujitsu!pt11:06
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:06
IdleOne!tell nazgulwalker  about repos11:06
naliothbobyfixer: que idioma?11:06
ftg2h36sa: ah. lol11:06
thompai still cant find an answer relating to heat issues, when my cpu gets to 100% in certain apps it goes way up11:06
bimberi!tell nazgulwalker about easysource11:06
linuxcrazymarhoolz is it any good?11:06
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bobyfixeridioma ?11:06
h36saftg2: under gentoo everything worked11:06
fluxt!tell bobyfixer about pt11:06
bobyfixerportugues11:06
nazgulwalkerthank you11:06
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h36sawhat kind of laptop is it11:06
IdleOne!pt11:06
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:06
ftg2h36sa: that means there is hope.. probably fixable with a kernel recompile, etc11:06
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linuxcrazyVIIV?!!11:06
Zarephathnalioth: portugues11:06
naliothbobyfixer: #ubuntu-br has portugues people in it11:06
IdleOnebobbynet> ^^^^11:07
bimberinazgulwalker: yw11:07
h36sayeah11:07
linuxcrazyI wish11:07
thompacentrino m, with nvidia card11:07
linuxcrazywhat the nvidia card?11:07
neri_anyone with an ibook?11:07
thompah36sa: its a sony vaio centrino m11:07
linuxcrazywhat model is the nvidia card?11:07
Zarephathnalioth: Wondering about progress on PPC Dapper?11:07
naliothZarephath: what about it? it works great so far11:08
h36sareally? centrino stuff works prime right now11:08
thompasorry, nvidia is not the problem11:08
linuxcrazyno I guess not11:08
Zarephathnalioth: I was just wondering where I might dowload the flight 5 cd?11:08
ftg2h36sa: its an inspiron 600011:08
ZarephathFor PPC of course11:08
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bimberi!getdapper11:08
ubotuYou can download dapper CD Images via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/.11:08
linuxcrazyflight 5? what's that?11:08
Zarephathbimberi: Thanks11:08
bimberiZarephath: ^^^^^ (first link)11:08
h36saftg2: what proc?11:08
bimberiZarephath: np :)11:09
tristanmikelinuxcrazy, it's the 5th pre-release dapper11:09
ZarephathDidn't know dapper was out for ppc yet...heh11:09
linuxcrazyoh11:09
ftg2h36sa: pentium m 750 i think11:09
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thompah36sa: i started montoring temp, and when cpu is at 100% cat / proc/acpi goes to 98c11:09
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h36saI've got an inspiron 5100 with a desktop p4/2.4 and I've had everything working before11:09
linuxcrazyyikes!11:09
ZarephathIs XGL enabled for PPC dapper?11:09
linuxcrazy98C?!11:09
thompah36sa: that cant be right can it?11:09
h36saftg2: yeah the centrino stuff works really well I think.. what problem were you having11:09
linuxcrazygo xgl!11:09
bimberi!tell Zarephath about xgl11:09
naliothZarephath: join me in #ubuntu+1 please11:09
Zarephathnalioth: K11:09
yggdrasilhello guys i just isntalled ubuntu on a dell c400 laptop and it looks liek the boot splash screen has a framebuffer issue , how can i disable it ?11:09
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thompah36sa: it works fine, just the temp alarms me11:10
fluxtthompa: that would have to be a mistake i hope11:10
ftg2h36sa: everything works great. acpi is just a great way crash the machine atm is all11:10
_jasonbelkin: ok sorry about that, still around11:10
linuxcrazytemp should alrm you!11:10
_jason?11:10
linuxcrazya*11:10
h36sathompa: what proc/does it really get that hot?11:10
stpereyggdrasil, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst11:10
yggdrasilyar ? and11:10
h36saftg2: oh.. that sucks11:10
thompah36sa:  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature11:10
stpereyggdrasil, find the line you are using.. and remove the splash argument11:10
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h36samine's been stable with suspend to ram and to disk11:11
thompah36sa: it happens at updates, celestia, screensavers even.11:11
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h36sathompa: it's a laptop though right?11:11
nrymiguelpffffff11:11
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thompah36sa: yes sony vaio (i know they suck alread)11:11
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jortmoving progress on installing nvidia driver, got the .run started in root but getting this error11:11
jort  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the11:11
jort         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,11:11
jort         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.11:11
Jhairhm11:11
_jasonjort: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'11:12
h36sathompa: well.. you'd definately know if your laptop was running at 100*C11:12
yggdrasilstpere can i do um vga=normal ?11:12
tristanmike!tell jort about pastebin11:12
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monteiroanyone knows a good desktop recorder for ubuntu ?11:12
thompah36sa:  right now im at 55c11:12
yggdrasilmy consoles looking all borked up too11:12
h36saso I'd say your system is just reporting it wrong11:12
thompah36sa: well i know it is too hot for my lap on occasion11:12
_jasonmonteiro: istanbul is the only one I know about, but I have had problems using it11:12
rukuarticCan anyone tell me how I can get my router to forward my REAL ip address to my computer?11:12
monteiro_jason : me 2, thats why i'm asking :)11:12
h36sa100*c is boiling water.. is it that hot?11:12
belkin_jason yeah11:13
stpereyggdrasil, hmm.. I suppose yes11:13
rukuarticO RLY!?11:13
yggdrasilrukuartic just put your computer into the dms11:13
yggdrasildmz11:13
thompah36sa: i dont think so11:13
rukuarticyggdrasil: It is... >>;11:13
h36saand your cpufan works?11:13
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yggdrasilstpere actulay let me see if that worked on it own... yea it did11:13
yggdrasilrukauartic suomi ?11:13
foampeacehello11:13
asylumiusI've got php5+apache2+mysql configred per the Wiki, but can anyone give me some info on adding mysqli support?11:13
foampeacei came onto my computer and X wont start11:13
rukuarticyggdrasil: Hmm?11:13
foampeaceanyone know why?11:14
bimberi!find mysqli11:14
_jasonbelkin: seems to still be a font problem.  Verify that 'apt-cache policy mplayer-fonts | grep -i Installed' says it is installed.  If it is, then pastebin /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config11:14
yggdrasilnevermind..11:14
thompah36sa: yes cpu fan works fine, it feels just as hot now 55c, then when it reads 95c +11:14
tristanmike!xhangs11:14
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority11:14
richardhow can i use dinamic tables in open office?11:14
yggdrasilits in the dmz and your still not getting it forwarded correctly ?11:14
fluxtfoampeace: probably all the sticky stuff on your monitor11:14
h36sathompa: then I wouldn't worry :)11:14
thompah36sa: its only when cpu is at 100% for certain apps11:14
yggdrasilstpere wow it crashes when i switch into and out of console and x...11:14
belkin_jason Installed: 3.5-2 so i will paste you the /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config11:14
yggdrasiloh well i read about that its just wierd non public driver11:14
h36sadoes it ever stay at like 55-60 when at 100%?11:15
thompah36sa: could be the way the sensor is mounted, its very thin the notebook11:15
thompaill check11:15
stpereyggdrasil, weird, you did add the vga=normal parameter?11:15
yggdrasiluh no11:15
fluxtfoampeace: "i came onto my computer and X wont start" <- this action is never recommmended11:15
_jasonbelkin: okay one more thing to check, add the '-vo null' switch and see if you hear sound from the clip11:15
h36sacat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature11:15
bimberiasylumius: there's a file '/usr/share/php/DB/mysqli.php' in the mysql-db package, perhaps that is it11:15
h36satemperature:             39 C11:15
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linuxcrazynot bad11:15
jesseman_fluxt, ROFL11:15
foampeaceis this channel family friendly?11:15
foampeace:>11:16
thompah36sa: thats good,11:16
tristanmikefoampeace, yes11:16
linuxcrazywhat ecactly does "ROFL" mean?11:16
belkin_jason /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf >> http://pastebin.com/60631711:16
linuxcrazyx*11:16
h36sathompa: that's a desktop p4 too, not a centrino which should run much cooler11:16
fluxtfoampeace: yes, now stop talking dirty! ;)11:16
jesseman_linuxcrazy, youre kidding, right?11:16
IdleOne!tell linuxcrazy about offtopic11:16
h36sait's in a laptop, but the proc is a desktop p411:16
linuxcrazywhat does it mean?11:16
thompah36sa: it starts to climb by 10c right away and then gets up to 98c11:16
aeolistlinuxcrazy, rolling on the floor laughing11:16
h36sahmm that's kinda weird11:16
linuxcrazywell.....I don't know11:16
foampeaceSomething about horizontal sync ranges not heppening etc11:16
foampeacei didnt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didnt help11:17
belkin_jason ~/.mplayer/config >> http://pastebin.com/60632111:17
aeolistlinuxcrazy, you should have searched the wiki before asking though11:17
thompah36sa: only with apps that require 100% cpu11:17
foampeacei did11:17
_jasonbelkin: comment the font stuff in ~/.mplayer/config11:17
tristanmikefoampeace, does it hang after you log in? or do you not even get the logon screen ?11:17
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belkin_jason fontconfig = yes and font = "Sans" ?11:18
fluxtfoampeace: this just happened out of the blue or did you do something beforehand that would tip off a possible cause11:18
linuxcrazyoh here we go. rolling on the floor laughing.11:18
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ploomthompa, either you have smthing with the cooler or with that thing measuring the temperature...11:18
_jasonbelkin: yes and subfont-text-scale = 3 too11:18
jesseman_linuxcrazy, yes. that is it. i am ROFL right now11:18
thompaploom: right11:18
jesseman_:-P11:18
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thompaploom: i guess i could leave it at 98c and see if it blows11:19
h36sathompa: I'd suggest just feeling the air coming outta the laptop at 55 and at 98.. see if it really is overheating, causse if it's running at 98* your laptop isn't gonna last long :P11:19
fluxti like thompa's idea best11:19
monteirois there a way of installing openoffice 2.0.2 in ubuntu breezy ?11:19
thompah36sa: there is little or no air coming out11:19
ploomthompa, no you shouldnt - it will take some more degrees and it will blow like a bullet11:20
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thompah36sa: there are no air vents11:20
h36saseriously?11:20
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h36sasorry dude11:20
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thompah36sa: there a little air coming from the usb ports11:20
belkin_jason http://pastebin.com/606329  tha error11:20
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h36sahaha11:20
h36sathere has to be a vent somewhere11:20
fluxth36sa: are you talking about the speed holes we covered with black electrical tape?11:21
h36samaybe you just can't find it cause your cpu fan sucks11:21
thompaive had linux on this thing many times before, and it would run hot11:21
ploomthompa, there once was a video about an athlon, what happens when cooler just gets removed (on 100% load) and it did fly - through the motherboard and also through the table :-)11:21
pvd2006whats the command to get all updates including kernel? apt-get ....11:21
h36safluxt: no.. aerodynamics is a whole other ballgame11:21
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_jasonbelkin: what happens with the '-vo null' switch?11:21
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fluxtpvd2006: apt-get upgrade11:22
tristanmikepvd2006, it's "sudo apt-get update" and that will give you any updates that are available11:22
thebrassehello, I am a bit new to the apt stuff. is there any wau to figure out what package I need to install in order to get a specific lib (libXxf86vm)?11:22
h36saploom: I've seen that.,. fucking crazy huh11:22
tristanmikepvd2006, then sudo apt-get upgrade11:22
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ftg2ploom: when my athlon fried, it forced off the hooks holding it to the board, and fell onto the video card.11:22
Wolfvhelp11:22
h36sahaha11:22
NickGarvey!language11:22
ubotulanguage is, like, totally, please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.11:22
NickGarvey!helpme11:22
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:22
Wolfvhi11:22
ftg2ploom: i awoke to the smell of burning electronics11:22
linuxcrazyHere's the joke of the day. knock knock?11:22
thompaso my life is in danger huh?11:22
WoCidea ideas as to the name of the tool in bind8 which you can use to update a running dns server from i.e. a script?11:23
pvd2006that will also uprgrade the kernel?11:23
linuxcrazylol11:23
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thompaare there any centrino m users out there?11:23
MisterNn811:23
h36sathompa: I've got one :P11:23
Wolfvhi, I have a question.  could someone please send me Xscrabble for Ubuntu? I donwloaded the prog, but it was configured for Suse and simply doesn't run properly.11:23
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linuxcrazygo pm!11:23
ploomstill -  has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??11:23
fluxtpvd2006: yeah if there is an updated one11:23
thompah36sa: and you got 38c11:23
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h36sano that's a different laptop11:24
ploom...and all that on vfat filesystem.11:24
ralph_Hi, anybody here using Ubuntu on a powerbook?11:24
thompaoh11:24
linuxcrazyhaha11:24
linuxcrazythey are a rare breed11:24
fluxt!anyone11:24
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>11:24
h36saI just got a i8600 with a p-m 76011:24
Jhairploom: uh?11:24
thompah36sa: i think there is an error with acpi11:24
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Jhairploom: in breezy?11:24
h36sawhat kernel are you running11:24
holycowwhats the ubuntu dev chan again? ubuntu-dev is empty11:24
Jhairploom: I haven't seen such thing11:24
thompah36sa: im on dapper11:24
linuxcrazywht was 5.10 named "breezy badger"?11:25
linuxcrazyy*11:25
thompah36sa: im going to try a live cd of linux, see if same happens11:25
Wolfvany help on Xscrabble, or am I saying something utterly stupid :-) ?11:25
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thompah36sa: thanks11:25
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linuxcrazywhat is Xsrcabble?11:25
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holycowbah11:25
Wolfva scrabble playing program11:25
linuxcrazyc*11:25
holycowokay so about the ubuntu dev chan, anyone?11:26
linuxcrazyhow did you install it?11:26
h36sathompa: good idea. but iy looks like mine is running at 46*C at idle11:26
WolfvI haven't managed to get it to run at all11:26
h36sathat's pretty warm11:26
nickrudholycow: -devel I think11:26
Wolfvit was already preconfigured for suse, I think11:26
jortok next question :D, i installed et (enemy territory) on my machine (the linux version), install was good no errors. Execute the file to open the game gave a couple of seconds a black screen but no error or anything (the program wouldnt start)11:26
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fluxtlinuxcrazy: its because of the local farting badger that hangs around one of the craziers devs11:26
h36saalthough that laptop is in my room which is warmer than where the other one is :P11:26
holycowdanke nickrud, 'preciate that11:26
linuxcrazyWolfV: so your using a sysaptic pkg manager?11:27
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thompah36sa: desktop was just flipping out11:27
linuxcrazyn*11:27
Wolfvyes, linuxcrazy11:27
ralph_i am trying to get my hsf partition which contains my user data from OS X (dualboot OSX and Ubuntu) to mount. It does mount, but in the directory there appear only files, not the directories I expect. I am using this entry in the fstab: /dev/hda12      /mnt/OSXHome    hfs     default         0       011:27
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linuxcrazyYour useing Ubuntu?11:27
h36sauhoh11:27
htrpwhat's the command line to take a screenshot?11:27
thompah36sa: i think ill run it at 98c and stand back11:27
Wolfvyes, Breezy Badger11:27
linuxcrazypress print screen11:27
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htrpi said command line11:27
h36saman you might f your laptop up if you do that11:27
h36sa98* is way too hot11:27
thompah36sa: if it doesnt blow after an hour i know sensor is wrong11:27
h36sahaha that's a horrible solution :P but probably true11:28
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linuxcrazypress it anyway! lol11:28
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fluxthtrp: i  use scrot.. sudo apt-get install scrot .. man scrot11:28
thompah36sa: its still under warrenty11:28
linuxcrazygasp!11:28
h36saoh, that makes a big difference :)11:28
linuxcrazyRMA, RMA!11:28
belkin_jason http://pastebin.com/606350 should i wait more ?11:28
NickGarveyralph_: thats odd, what what kind of files does it show?11:28
thompah36sa: ill tell them it was a windows update11:28
linuxcrazylol11:29
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linuxcrazyUPDATE!!!! Read this everybody! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-111:30
ploomJhair, on two different breezy systems, only when making a fld  through nautilus (into a vfat fs)11:30
linuxcrazyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-111:31
linuxcrazytest11:31
fluxtlinuxcrazy: the fix has already been added to universe11:31
chuckyplinuxboy, people know11:31
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: it has been known for quite a while11:31
linuxcrazyoh11:31
lesshastebelkin: did you fix it?11:31
NickGarveymm thats dapper only right?11:31
chuckyplinuxcrazy, yes people already know11:31
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linuxcrazyok11:32
chuckypNickGarvey, breezy only11:32
whiterhow can i clear bash history11:32
NickGarveyoh11:32
whiter?11:32
thompaim preparing to go to 100C!11:32
NickGarveywell I'm brezzy11:32
NickGarveybreezy*11:32
linuxcrazywoot!11:32
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NickGarveymight want to do that..11:32
thompastand by!11:32
nrymiguelthanx ppl for Skype11:32
belkinlesshaste have a look here please http://pastebin.com/60635011:32
rkvdamn is there a way to get automatix work on amd64?11:32
nrymiguelI did it11:32
fluxtlinuxcrazy: if you're still using gnome you would have been notified of the update already11:32
linuxcrazy100c here we come!@11:32
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mshiltonjautomatix is bad?11:32
nrymiguelexit11:32
rkvwhy?11:32
whiterwhat update?11:32
meherencan someone tell me how to change my default boot in the grub boot manager?11:32
NickGarveymeheren: its pretty simple11:32
thompaim just installing celestia, that app takes 100% cpu easy11:32
NickGarveymeheren: there is a line that says default and a numbe11:33
rkvso in amd64 u have to install all apps one by one?11:33
meherenyeh i no about all that...11:33
lesshastebelkin: ok.. looks ok to me11:33
NickGarveymeheren: change the number, but note computers count startnig from 011:33
meherenbut where is the file i have to modify?11:33
lesshastebelkin: does it still not work?11:33
NickGarvey/boot/grub/menu.conf11:33
rkvhelp someone?11:33
ftg2meheren: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ... change the line 'default 0' to something more appropriate. entries start counting at 0, etc11:33
whiterhow can i clear bash's history?11:33
meherenNIckgarvey k thx11:33
NickGarveyno prob11:33
lesshastewhiter: history -c11:34
rkv.... damn11:34
NickGarveyrkv: mm I never got my laptop which uses amd64 working with linux11:34
rkvoh k11:34
NickGarveybut the hardware is very new and odd, I'm not the only one with problems11:34
meherenNickGarvey, just one thing... ive forgotten does it count the little thing that says "other os" as a number...?11:34
NickGarveyso I don't know if its the processor11:34
rkvwell my amd64 laptop is workin on ubuntu11:35
ftg2meheren: it does11:35
NickGarveymeheren: yes it does11:35
rkv*desktop11:35
belkinlesshaste well there is no image while im doing that11:35
thompastarting at 58c11:35
h36sathompa: I'm load-testing my centrino running a very current version of gentoo and it's getting WAY hotter than it should11:35
techrushhi thompa :)11:35
thompareally11:35
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thompahi11:35
meherenk11:35
ploomJhair, can't you try it?11:35
asylumiusIs there something I can change in my apache conf if it wont recognize .php files (tries to download them). The only exception is when its the index.php file.11:35
meherenNickGarvey, k that's what i thought... thx11:35
h36samy p4 only got up to 63.. I shut my centrino down at 7611:35
rkvis there any other like compilation of software package that is like click and install to my amd64 ?11:35
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thompatechrush: im about to blow up my comuputer11:35
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techrushits still running hot huh ?11:36
_jasonbelkin: are your speakers on?  you didn't hear anything?11:36
h36sathe centrino isn't really configured yet, just got it.. but still, I'd say something is probably wrong in the kernel or acpi code right now11:36
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ploomthompa, can you touch by hand (or finger) - is it really so hot??11:36
thompa70c11:36
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h36sawhat are pentium-m's rated for?11:36
thompa73c11:36
lesshastebelkin: oh :)11:36
lesshastebelkin: try cvs :)11:37
thompa76c11:37
rkvi have a creative sound card how do i get it to work?11:37
ploomthompa,  otherwise its just crap...11:37
belkin_jason nothing . no image no sound11:37
thompado i need to stand back?11:37
_jasonbelkin: never mind I see errors for that too, umm try asking in #mplayer about what is going on11:37
thompa81c11:37
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thompa83c11:37
belkin_jason hmm ok thanks a lot for your time11:37
meherenwhat's the command for text editor?11:37
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techrushits gonna melt soon :(11:37
belkinlesshaste thanks11:37
thompa85c11:38
_jasonmeheren: nano is one11:38
thompaits getting hot11:38
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meherenk thx11:38
techrushmeheren, nano11:38
lesshastebelkin: good luck!11:38
meheren_jason, techrush, k thx11:38
thompa88c11:38
h36sahmm.. feeling my laptop I'd say it actually IS running that hot11:38
fluxtthompa: have you confirmed that is the actual temp in the bios?11:38
thompano bios temp11:39
h36sathompa: what's acpi -V say11:39
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CaptainMorganhow do I install fonts for Linux's firefox that appear in Win's firefox?11:39
thompa90C and rising11:39
thompa91C11:39
chuckyp!tell CaptainMorgan about fonts11:39
fluxt!fonts11:39
ubotufonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto11:39
_jason!msttcorefonts11:39
ubotu[msttcorefonts]  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first11:39
thompai dont even have nvidia driver running11:40
thompa92C11:40
linuxcrazycan someone give me instructions on how to install libdvdcss?11:40
_jason!dvd11:40
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)11:40
h36sathompa: go feel it.. is it really that hot?11:41
thompano its actually getting cooler11:41
linuxcrazyseems as though you can't install it through synaptic....11:41
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h36sao...k11:41
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thompa93C11:41
_jasonlinuxcrazy: see what ubotu said above11:41
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sEbaKiLLeRhi11:41
ploomthompa, why dont you try by hand? Usually systems get halted like by 80 deg C afaik11:41
fluxthow do you get the acpi program to report temps.. acpt -V reports: No support for device type: therma11:41
sEbaKiLLeRcan someone help me with this file11:42
fluxtacpi*11:42
thompa94C, what should i check11:42
sEbaKiLLeRi cant recognise the language11:42
asylumius!find apache211:42
h36saploom: nah intels can handle the heat11:42
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: what are you trying to do?11:42
sEbaKiLLeRits an exploit11:42
thompa95C and rising11:42
h36safluxt: maybe you need to run acpid11:42
sEbaKiLLeRbut i cant recognise the language11:42
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sEbaKiLLeRit seems to be for c++11:43
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: this isn't really the right place to ask about exploits11:43
thompaploom: how do i check by hand?11:43
CaptainMorganI don't have the msttcorefonts package and my mulit and universe repos are selected...11:43
fluxth36sa: it's running11:43
ploomtouch it11:43
ploomthompa, take the case open and touch it11:43
_jasonCaptainMorgan: can you place the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  please11:43
thompait feels same as at 55c11:43
sEbaKiLLeRis just about to compile11:43
thompabut i got 97C now11:43
thompaso acpi is screwed up11:44
h36saploom: it's a laptop11:44
thompa99C, damn11:44
h36sathompa: I wouldn't be so sure.. my laptop got a lot warmer11:44
ploomh36sa, then he can feel it by balls even11:44
CaptainMorgan_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036111:44
thompait got a little warmer11:44
thompaif i run bzflag it will heat up11:45
meherenso... a intel pentium 4 should be running a 686 kernel right...?11:45
fluxtthompa: it's been known that acpi temps get reported differently and need adjustment on some chipsets (coming from using windows)11:45
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h36saok but that's from the video card11:45
_jasonCaptainMorgan: you only have multiverse enabled for backports.  Would you like to use synaptic or manually edit the file to correct this?11:45
thompai can touch the bottom of it no problem11:45
h36saand the thing hsould heat up a little under load so that is fine too11:45
CaptainMorganmanuall edit11:45
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h36saas long as it's not really running at 100*C you're cool11:45
CaptainMorganwhat do I add?11:45
thompaits at 97C, seems to have settled down there11:45
linuxcrazywait, can i just add a repositorie in linux for the website?11:46
thompawell it would have broke by now11:46
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_jasonCaptainMorgan: everywhere you see ``universe'' by itself on a line, change it to ``universe multiverse''11:46
sEbaKiLLeRhttp://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt11:46
thompathe other thing, ig i unplug it , batter says it had 6 minutes left, which is incorrect11:46
thompa101C lol11:47
thompaim not kidding thats what it says11:47
ploomthompa, its not even funny11:47
_jasonthompa: stand back11:47
CaptainMorgancool... got it _jason, would it be overkill to add every font package found in Syn?11:47
CaptainMorganprobabaly he?11:47
CaptainMorganeh?11:47
ploomthompa, either the acpi gets the values wrong or there is something very wrong...11:47
bjornkriwhat's the file where you list the repositories again? I forget... :P11:48
thompaploom: is it dangerous?11:48
thompato me that is11:48
frank23thompa: I don't think your computer would be running if that were true11:48
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meherenthompa, jeese u do have a bad promblem it should not be running at that heat...11:48
thompa99C11:48
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meherenfrank23, ya good point...11:48
sEbaKiLLeRhttp://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt11:48
thompado they usually melt or what/11:48
ploomthompa, in case it could really have been reached over 70, it would be quite bad11:48
_jasonCaptainMorgan: well I have over 1500 fonts in my ~/.fonts, so I am going to say no :)11:49
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NickGarveynothing like a good apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade on a new system11:49
NickGarveymm11:49
meheren_jason, =-O11:49
ploomthompa, unless you've really been overclocking it...11:49
thompaim still at 99c and still alive11:49
CaptainMorgan_jason,  lol11:49
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thompaits a new notebook, except motherboard was replaced11:49
sEbaKiLLeRanyone can tellme if is any software wich says the language11:50
meherenthompa, reboot... give it time to cool off then try again...11:50
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kbrooksit's the old "it's the new's new"...11:50
kbrooks:P11:50
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thompai shut down celestia and temp drops right to 80c11:50
thompanow its 78c11:50
ploomthompa, i guess its just a wrong number there11:50
omegHi everybody. I've got an lzh file that I want to extract, but it seems that file-roller can't do it for some reason (given, it was originally a .1 file, but it's supposed to be a renamed lzh file).11:50
thompathe bootm feels just as hot11:50
ploomthompa, usually it just wont work - it just cant work that way11:51
fluxtthompa: what's the model of your laptop?11:51
omeg(I'm trying to install the Quake shareware, which requires that you decompress its resources file, stored in lzh compression as resources.1.)11:51
thompaploom: could it be my bios is messed up11:51
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omegAnyway, any tips? Maybe a terminal command?11:51
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fiveironi am consistently getting errors in the Package lists from a few sources when i do "sudo apt-get update"  is anyone else having this problem?11:51
thompawhen they replaced the mobo, the restore disks are no longer recognized11:51
thompafluxt: sony vaio vgn fs-660/w11:52
ploomthompa, I don't know - just divide the amount by some number - by a factor of 2 maybe - then it would make like 50 degrees :-)11:52
thompa64c now11:52
IdleOnefiveiron>  you using us or ca country code in your sources?11:52
Nethwhen i installed ubuntu it made my user but it never made a root user. its preventing me from using the su command i beleive and i cant ge tinto folders like opt. how do i make a root user thing. details preffered11:52
meherenis it true that i should put a 686 kernel on a dell inspirion 8600 pentium 4 ?11:52
_jasonubotu: tell Neth about sudoroot11:52
meherenneth, type sudo su11:52
EdLinNeth, use sudo11:52
ploomthompa, and remember - you can always divide it by zero - then the real fun will start for you :-)11:52
meherenneth, then enter ur pass then type:11:52
EdLinNeth, or sudo -s to get a root prompt11:52
meherenneth, passwd11:53
_jasonNeth: read what the bot sent you and use 'sudo -i' instead of 'sudo su' please11:53
thompaheh11:53
_jasonmeheren: please don't recommend that11:53
meherenneth, then type the root pass u want11:53
meheren_jason, sry... ? y?11:53
thompadown to 59C now11:53
Nethvery helpful today11:53
bjornkriWhat's the name of the file that lists the repositories?11:53
_jasonubotu: tell meheren about sudo11:53
meherenthompa, that is very good...11:53
fiveironi'm getting an error from lex when I try to install Cedega from CVS... anyone done this successfully?11:53
thompaall i did was close celestia11:53
EdLinbjornkri, /etc/apt/sources.list11:54
meheren_jason, yes yes i no but y not have a root pass?11:54
_jasonmeheren: because there is a reason the devs chose to lock the root account, mostly for security11:54
bjornkrithanks EdLin11:54
meherenok...11:54
EdLinnp11:54
thompai wonder if it could be incorrect bios version, does acpi rely on bios?11:54
h36sahaha I just figured out my problem. the ubuntu devs added some hack to p4-clockmod that disables running under 2ghz. pretty weak11:54
Nethmeheren: thank you very much11:54
_jasonmeheren: and apparently it borks the gui admin tools, although it never happened to me11:54
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meheren_jason, me nether...11:54
fluxtthompa: no11:54
meherenneth, u should still probally use sudo11:55
meherenneth, ull find it is esier11:55
thompafluxt: both the mobo and hard drive were replaced11:55
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Nethmeheren: Error while moving items to "/opt". You do not have permissions to write to this folder.11:55
hahahey when i try to acces the computers on my network it says i need a password.. but i frgt it so how do i get a new one?11:55
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meherenNeth, did u do this?11:55
meherensudo su11:55
meherenpasswd11:55
Nethi tried moving my java crap by drag and drop11:56
Nethmeheren yes11:56
Tom39AwayIs there a bash command that outputs something similar to "ls -l" but includes the path of the file instead of just the name?11:56
meherenbut as _jason says maybe u don't want to do that...11:56
hahau guys wanna help me please11:56
meherenhmm11:56
IdleOnehaha whats the problem?11:56
_jasonNeth: you don't need to enable the root account, you can do everything with sudo11:56
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hahai need a password to access my network11:56
Neth_jason i'm dragging and dropping...no sudo command for that11:57
hahabut i dont know it11:57
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dragonhi11:57
thompafluxt: do you have any idea what i can do?11:57
meherenNeth, _jason is correct there is no need for use of the root account...11:57
thompamaybe some other way to check temp.11:57
ploomTom39Away, man ls could mabe help you11:57
chuckyphaha, leave it blank if you don't need one11:57
IdleOnehaha>  we need more info then that..what are you trying to do eactly?11:57
meherenNeht, hmm try this11:57
_jasonNeth: use the terminal or if you really need drap and drop you can run 'gksudo nautilus' but it is a bad idea imo to have root drap and drop11:57
Nethmeheren: but what is the command to move files/folders in terminal?11:57
hahaaccess the other computers on my network11:57
chuckypthompa, what are you trying to do?11:57
dragonjest ktos z polski?11:57
meherenneth, not sure!...11:57
chuckypNeth, mv11:58
fluxtthompa: the only thing i can think of is if you have windows try 'motherboard monitor 5' and see what that reports11:58
_jasonNeth: mv file destination11:58
Nethchuckyp: ty11:58
meheren( i use sudo su nautilus...)11:58
chuckypNeth, mv=move cp=copy11:58
IdleOne!tell haha about samba11:58
meherenthen u get root acces to ur files through gui...11:58
_jasonmeheren: gui apps you should use gksudo11:58
fluxtthompa: otherwise you could be thinking the people who replaced your motherboard did a botch job on the cpu fan11:58
meherengksudo..?11:58
meherennever heard of it11:58
_jasonmeheren: nod11:58
chuckyp_jason, it thought gksudo wasn't used anymore.11:58
chuckyp!gksudo11:58
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.11:58
thompafluxt: thanks11:58
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chuckypmaybe not11:59
meherenok...11:59
meherenbrb11:59
meheren(i still have to reboot)...11:59
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bjornkrisomeone should make a program administative program called 'ku'. Just so we can write 'sudo ku'.11:59
_jasonbjornkri: ha11:59
Tom39Awayploom, thanks, tried that, no luck.11:59
ralph_how do I mount an mac os x extended fs (hfs) on a powerbook. Mounting with -t hfs gave me just 3 files, not any directory...12:00

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