| robotgeek | LaserJock: except the packaging guide, i am going to commit trappist's patch | 12:06 |
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| LaserJock | robotgeek: I can't figure out which patches are for what and which I'm supposed to use :( | 12:07 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: give me a minute | 12:08 |
| robotgeek | trappist: committed, thanks | 12:13 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: well, you can apply wget http://tra.ppi.st/bigun.diff | 12:13 |
| robotgeek | and revert everywhere else | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | or I can hack his diff ;-) | 12:14 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: yes, that too | 12:14 |
| robotgeek | i think that has been my widest patch, wohoo | 12:14 |
| robotgeek | now to nuke userguide | 12:15 |
| robotgeek | that has been around since hoary days :) | 12:16 |
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| mhz | lol!!! http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1868 | 01:01 |
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| mgalvin | is anyone looking at the entities patches from trappist? | 04:27 |
| mgalvin | never mind looks like they were already applied | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | yep | 04:36 |
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| LaserJock | hi Burgundavia | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | salut LaserJock | 04:48 |
| Madpilot | hi all | 04:50 |
| Burgundavia | greetings Madpilot | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | hi Madpilot | 04:51 |
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| Madpilot | bleh, Epiphany doesn't close tabs on middle-click like every other tabbed browser does | 05:00 |
| Burgundavia | probably because that is broken? | 05:01 |
| Burgundavia | too easy to loose the tab | 05:01 |
| Burgundavia | epiphany also doesn't focus the location bar on alt-d | 05:01 |
| Burgundavia | both are features very few use and are cause problems | 05:02 |
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| mdke | morning | 08:33 |
| robotgeek | hey mdke | 08:33 |
| mdke | hiya | 08:34 |
| mdke | all well? | 08:35 |
| robotgeek | yup. responding on sounder | 08:36 |
| mdke | heh | 08:36 |
| mdke | doc-builders :) | 08:42 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek, but don't you know that Ubuntu's doc-makers *never* answer their email? :P | 08:42 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: EU+ doc team response, heh | 08:42 |
| mdke | do you guys answer your emails? | 08:43 |
| mdke | >_< | 08:43 |
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| Madpilot | there've been a couple of emails to the list that haven't been answered on-list, not sure if they ever got answered... | 08:43 |
| mdke | argh | 08:44 |
| mdke | I applied the patch from Andreas yesterday btw | 08:44 |
| mdke | I replied but must have forgotten to reply-to-list | 08:44 |
| robotgeek | mdke: and they say doc writers don't answer their emails | 08:58 |
| mdke | now he is saying that he will email after writing his unofficial doc | 09:00 |
| Madpilot | who is this "admin@scientific.dk" chap, and does he always have this much attitude? | 09:00 |
| mdke | so essentially we have failed to read his mind, over the intraweb | 09:00 |
| robotgeek | no, if he can't take time to read up a page, why is our time such a waste? | 09:00 |
| Madpilot | something like that... | 09:00 |
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| mdke | i've replied | 09:01 |
| Madpilot | or we're supposed to telepathically *know* what he's capable of writing, and contact him to provide it? :P | 09:01 |
| mdke | exactly | 09:02 |
| mdke | odd chap | 09:02 |
| mdke | damn still no reply from the TB | 09:02 |
| rob | hi | 09:02 |
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| mdke | hiya | 09:03 |
| robotgeek | hey | 09:03 |
| rob | I'm going to do an install tonight, are any screenshots of the installer or whatever needed? | 09:04 |
| mdke | hmm. not sure: I think there is not a lot of material on installation | 09:05 |
| Madpilot | do we even document the installer anywhere? | 09:05 |
| rob | not a lot. I think. | 09:05 |
| rob | I guess I'll go from flight 5 from the get go for the best screenshots | 09:06 |
| Madpilot | speaking of unanswered emails, anyone else what to tackle some of this: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34832 ? | 09:07 |
| rob | catch you all later.. dinner | 09:08 |
| mdke | rob, the theme will probably still change quite a lot, it's best not to do screenshots right away, but make placeholders | 09:08 |
| mdke | Madpilot, yeah I'll take a look | 09:09 |
| Madpilot | bed... later, all | 09:09 |
| robotgeek | oh, i've already fixed those in KDG | 09:11 |
| robotgeek | i havent added anything about ndiswrapper as the wifidocs page is linked | 09:12 |
| mdke | yes, I think that is a little too detailed | 09:21 |
| robotgeek | i havent added the section on keyboard yet, but it looks much easier with skim and stuff | 09:28 |
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| mdke | robotgeek, did you do the wiki-Nano link in the desktop guide yesterday? | 02:43 |
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| mdke | oh no, it might have been andreas' patch | 03:27 |
| robotgeek | yes mdke, looks like andreas | 03:30 |
| Kyral | Morning | 03:31 |
| robotgeek | morning Kyral | 03:32 |
| Kyral | damn my font is playing tricks...or my mind hasn't woken up yett..for a split second I saw that as "incoming Kyral" | 03:32 |
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| robotgeek | Kyral: same thing | 03:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <grin> | 03:35 |
| mdke | robotgeek, actually, wasn't him | 03:37 |
| robotgeek | morning Kamping_Kaiser | 03:37 |
| mdke | robotgeek, for some reason the entity was missing a & and a ;, any idea if there may be more like that? | 03:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi robotgeek | 03:37 |
| robotgeek | mdke: there were two patches he sent it? | 03:37 |
| mdke | robotgeek, not in his patches | 03:38 |
| mdke | it was like that already | 03:38 |
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| robotgeek | mdke: you mean something without entities? | 03:40 |
| mdke | robotgeek, it said url="wiki-Nano" | 03:41 |
| mdke | i've fixed it, I just wanna know if it is likely that there are more | 03:41 |
| robotgeek | not sure | 03:42 |
| mdke | damn | 03:45 |
| robotgeek | ulink doesn't throw an error? | 03:46 |
| mdke | no, cos it might be the right address | 03:47 |
| robotgeek | lemme grep through all the ulinks | 03:47 |
| robotgeek | okay, maybe after coffee :) | 03:48 |
| mdke | hehe | 03:49 |
| mdke | more importantly, is it possible that any other entities are like that? | 03:50 |
| mdke | from elsewhere in rocco's patches | 03:50 |
| robotgeek | mdke: it wasn't rocco's patch, it did not touch udg i think | 03:50 |
| mdke | ah good | 03:51 |
| mdke | oh no, there was some discussion about lowercase entities | 03:51 |
| robotgeek | mdke: nope, look at r 2518 | 03:55 |
| robotgeek | it was wiki-Nano when you committed it | 03:55 |
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| mdke | ok, so my bad | 03:58 |
| mdke | sorry | 03:59 |
| robotgeek | mdke: no problem, i will try and write a script which looks for these entities | 04:03 |
| mdke | robotgeek, sorry to have put you to the trouble of searching that | 04:03 |
| robotgeek | mdke: no problem, was pretty easy to find | 04:03 |
| robotgeek | nano is mentioned only 4 times after i joined the docteam :) | 04:04 |
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| mgalvin | is there are reason why <email/>'s are commented out in the authors files? | 04:15 |
| robotgeek | maybe spam protection for us :) | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | hmm, because i would prefer to use the author entities but that means email addresses will not show up | 04:17 |
| mgalvin | i don't have an problem with that... | 04:17 |
| mgalvin | the release notes just have email addresses in them as it is now | 04:18 |
| robotgeek | i am not sure, i just guessed | 04:18 |
| trappist | I gave up on protecting my email address | 04:18 |
| mgalvin | gmail protects me :) | 04:18 |
| mgalvin | usually :-/ | 04:19 |
| robotgeek | yo trappist | 04:19 |
| trappist | at least on my website my email address is made of html entities. that's probably saved me from a spam or two, but it's all over google, so it doesn't really matter | 04:19 |
| trappist | heya robotgeek | 04:19 |
| mgalvin | i am curious about who commented them *all* out in the first place | 04:20 |
| trappist | mgalvin: svn blame? | 04:20 |
| robotgeek | i commented out mine, cause the one i copied from commented his :) | 04:21 |
| trappist | 1363 jeffsch <!-- <email>matt.t.galvin@gmail.com</email> --> | 04:22 |
| trappist | but then it looks like he did the whole file | 04:22 |
| mgalvin | yea, that is b/c he commited it for me a while ago | 04:22 |
| mgalvin | hmm, was so long ago, i don't remeber if that was how i added it | 04:23 |
| mgalvin | meh | 04:23 |
| mgalvin | does anyone object to uncommenting them so they show up correctly in the author lists (where the ent's are used)? | 04:24 |
| trappist | it looks like most of the email lines are 'blamed' on sean or sean wheller | 04:24 |
| robotgeek | i am not sure, mgalvin . maybe ask mdke | 04:26 |
| mgalvin | hehe, we can just blame sean for everything :) | 04:26 |
| mgalvin | yea, i will email the list | 04:26 |
| jjesse | in my author entries i've followed what the privious author did | 04:45 |
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| LaserJock | I was wondering the other day how to best deal with contributors vs. team members | 05:42 |
| LaserJock | as far as authorship | 05:43 |
| LaserJock | so far I've just been doing it like http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ln-Credits-And-License.html | 05:45 |
| mdke | i say that the author should be the team, and contributors arranged as LaserJock has done. | 05:45 |
| mgalvin | +1 | 05:46 |
| robotgeek | +1 | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | ok, so did I do it right? or do I need to add the doc team somewhere? | 05:50 |
| mdke | you have it right | 05:50 |
| mdke | lots of docs don't though | 05:50 |
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| mdke | compare http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html with http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ | 05:50 |
| robotgeek | i see | 05:52 |
| robotgeek | mdke: somehow, the css for the kdg has been missed (the clickability is lost) | 05:56 |
| mdke | right, hang on | 05:56 |
| trappist | looks like my change got reverted | 05:58 |
| trappist | line 55 of kubuntu/libs/kde-default.css if that's the css file | 05:58 |
| mdke | i've decided to use a different css file | 05:59 |
| mdke | forgot your change, sorry | 05:59 |
| trappist | you remember what it was, or you want I should send another patch? | 06:00 |
| mdke | got it | 06:03 |
| mdke | robotgeek, reload the page, is that better? | 06:03 |
| mdke | hmm, no | 06:04 |
| mdke | trappist, isn't this right? http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/common/kubuntu-default.css | 06:05 |
| trappist | there's nothing relevant in there | 06:05 |
| robotgeek | better mdke , but still not able to click APT on main page | 06:05 |
| mdke | trappist, i thought it was the padding-left bit | 06:06 |
| trappist | I don't see any padding in that file... just a sec... | 06:06 |
| trappist | oh you meant kde-default.css :) | 06:06 |
| mdke | no, kubuntu-default.css | 06:07 |
| mdke | at the bottom | 06:07 |
| trappist | kubuntu-default.css only has two blocks, .BannerBottomLeft and .BannerBottomRight | 06:07 |
| trappist | at least the one in the link you pasted | 06:08 |
| mdke | huh? | 06:08 |
| trappist | oh nm I just refreshed, there it is... | 06:08 |
| trappist | mdke: both files are linked, and I guess the other one is taking precedence. | 06:09 |
| trappist | maybe the contents of kubuntu-default.css should just be added to kde-default.css to avoid confusion, and get rid of kubuntu-default.css? | 06:09 |
| mdke | we can't do that | 06:12 |
| mdke | because kde-default.css is shipped with kde | 06:12 |
| trappist | ah. | 06:12 |
| mdke | so we need to leave it unchanged for the distro docs | 06:12 |
| mdke | but the second stylesheet should take precedence, that's what css is all about, I thought | 06:12 |
| trappist | try adding !important to the padding-left: 1em; | 06:12 |
| mdke | it works for the Banner thing | 06:12 |
| trappist | or add padding-top: 0; padding-bottom: 0; to it | 06:13 |
| mdke | ok | 06:13 |
| trappist | I think padding-left is just reinforcing padding, and not eliminating padding in other directions | 06:13 |
| mdke | oh good point | 06:14 |
| mdke | doh | 06:14 |
| mdke | thanks trappist | 06:14 |
| trappist | works? | 06:15 |
| robotgeek | yup | 06:17 |
| trappist | mdke: while we're in there, about the other parts of that file... small point... adding units to values of 0 is unnecessary and therefore not recommended, just to save the extra coupla bytes of bandwith (for us and the users) | 06:20 |
| mdke | trappist, which file? | 06:26 |
| trappist | kubuntu-default.css | 06:26 |
| mdke | oh i see, the "px"? | 06:26 |
| trappist | yeah | 06:26 |
| mdke | feel free to eradicate that | 06:26 |
| trappist | ok | 06:27 |
| mdke | oh no you don't have commit access yet, I'll do it | 06:27 |
| mdke | let's get commit access for trappist, hey everyone | 06:27 |
| trappist | :) | 06:27 |
| mdke | trappist, due to a shocking decision made a while back, you need to become an ubuntu member first | 06:28 |
| mdke | see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember | 06:29 |
| trappist | ubuntu-something member, or... | 06:29 |
| trappist | ah, I see | 06:30 |
| trappist | well I'll add some stuff to my wiki page and see if I can get myself memberized | 06:32 |
| robotgeek | trappist: i'll +1 | 06:34 |
| trappist | thanks | 06:34 |
| mdke | we all will :) | 06:41 |
| trappist | thanks, you guys rock :) | 06:41 |
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| jjesse | when is the next meeting to vote for trappist? | 07:38 |
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| LaserJock | jjesse: ? | 07:42 |
| jjesse | the next meeting to vote for trappist as a member so he can get commit acces :) | 07:42 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: fridge.ubuntu.com should have the answer | 07:42 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I don't see any CC meetings scheduled | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | but I do see a Doc Team meeting | 07:43 |
| robotgeek_away | i can't make it to the meeting, sorry | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek_away: doh, and I was adding a ton of items to the agenda ;-) | 07:58 |
| robotgeek_away | saw that too | 07:58 |
| robotgeek_away | later | 07:58 |
| trappist | is this us? -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/25972 | 08:53 |
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| jjesse | not that i am aweare of | 08:54 |
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| trappist | yeah it's there | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | that is an upstream issue I would think | 09:01 |
| trappist | upstream from debian possible, but it's package specific. only the titles of the docs are wrong. the docs are for 2.4 and later, and the docs themselves say so. | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | trappist: right, but the docs are probably shipped with the iptables package | 09:03 |
| trappist | right, but the docs are correct :) it's just the titles (in the package) that are wrong. | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | hmm, iptables is a Main package :( | 09:04 |
| trappist | why the :( ? | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | cause if it was Universe I could upload a fix ;-) | 09:05 |
| trappist | oh :) | 09:05 |
| trappist | I attached a patch to the bug report | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I could make a debdiff and see if my core-dev friends can upload it | 09:06 |
| trappist | ok how does one make a debdiff. I haven't been able to figure that out. | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | you create a new source packages and use debdiff like you would diff | 09:07 |
| trappist | oh so it's not run against built packages | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | well you can then use patch on the current package | 09:08 |
| trappist | so if I hadn't already deleted what I'd done I could have said debdiff instead of diff | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but you would need to bump the version and add a changelog entry | 09:09 |
| trappist | gotcha. | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | I'll show you | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | trappist: check out http://www.chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/iptables_1.3.3-2ubuntu4.debdiff | 09:18 |
| trappist | so that confirms, I could have just said debdiff (if I'd done the changelog stuff) | 09:22 |
| trappist | the patch looks difficult to apply, though, being in /tmp/blahblah/... | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | no | 09:28 |
| LaserJock | it doesn't matter | 09:28 |
| trappist | I guess that's some debdiff smartness | 09:31 |
| trappist | so am I doing my time zone math right? do we have a meeting in half an hour? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | btw, to apply my debdiff I just did "patch -p3 < iptables_1.3.3-2ubuntu4.debdiff" | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | from the directory with the source package | 09:33 |
| trappist | oh, -p3 to get rid of the /tmp part of the path. by difficult to apply I meant I can't use -p0 and I have a hard time figuring out what p level to use | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | trappist: the reason it has the /tmp/ stuff is it actually unpacks both source packages and does some diff magic | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | trappist: the secret to -p is to guess at the number and then mess around with it until the patch applies cleanly ;-) | 09:35 |
| trappist | yeah :) | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | after a while you start to see how many you need to strip off | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | anybody going to be around for the meeting? | 09:48 |
| Kyral | Meeting? | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: doc team meeting in ~ 10 min | 09:50 |
| Kyral | ah | 09:50 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: you busy today? | 09:51 |
| Kyral | LaserJock, no...I just started gaming and lost rack of time lol | 09:51 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: it is a Hug Day today | 09:51 |
| Kyral | I know I know! | 09:52 |
| Kyral | I meant to do so much work...but then I started playing Mega Man Zero 2 lol | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs ;-) | 09:52 |
| Kyral | LaserJock, I haven't checked my email ALL week | 09:53 |
| Kyral | I'm scared to see how much I have to download when I get back to school | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I haven't emailed anybody I dont' think. If you have time and need something to do, we subscribed all the bugs to the motuscience LP team so all you have to do is check out that url | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: and start fixing ;-) | 09:54 |
| mdke | mgalvin, ping? | 09:57 |
| mgalvin | mdke: pong | 09:57 |
| mdke | mgalvin, hiya. so are we gonna do author=docteam and contributors=individuals in releasenotes? maybe it would be a decent meeting item | 09:58 |
| mgalvin | mdke: hey, i think we should, it seems to be the most logical way of dealing with it and we should also do it to keep the docs in a consistent format | 10:00 |
| mdke | great. | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I just threw some agenda items in because it was blank. Hope that is ok | 10:01 |
| mgalvin | we can certainly make it a meeting item if you feel more discussion is needed, or to just make sure everyone know to use this method | 10:01 |
| mdke | i think we should | 10:02 |
| mdke | LaserJock, can we scrap the dapper+1 item? | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | mdke: sure, I don't care | 10:02 |
| mgalvin | ok, sounds good to me | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | mdke: it just seems like our meetings fizzle out sometimes so I tried to stimulate some discussion ;-) | 10:03 |
| mdke | LaserJock, yeah I appreciate it. all the agenda items are great, but i think it's early to talk about dapper+1 | 10:03 |
| mdke | so, meeting quickly? | 10:06 |
| jjesse | is there a meeting today? | 10:13 |
| jjesse | or was there a meeting? | 10:13 |
| jjesse | sorry was busy tat work | 10:14 |
| mdke | jjesse, just started | 10:14 |
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| mdke | LaserJock, what username? | 11:13 |
| LaserJock | umm, I guess laserjock | 11:13 |
| mdke | ok | 11:13 |
| LaserJock | that is what i use for the MOTU server so I'll keep them consistent ;-) | 11:13 |
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| mdke | afk | 11:16 |
| qgil | hi Burgwork & co. Question: is it possible to fill a bug / feature request against a piece of Ubuntu documentation? | 11:16 |
| LaserJock | qgil: is that shipped documentation? | 11:17 |
| qgil | help.ubuntu.com pages LaserJock | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | qgil: I'd email the ubuntu-docs email list | 11:18 |
| qgil | LaserJock: ok, although the paradox is precisely that I want to suggest the possibility to fill bugs in order to avoid the eed of subscribing to a mailing list... ;) | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | qgil: well, it is possible to file bugs on the shipped documentation (source package is ubuntu-docs) but you can't for other docs | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | qgil: the reason you have to subscribe, I think, is that otherwise we get tons of spam if it is open to everybody | 11:21 |
| qgil | LaserJock: this is why filing bugs is an intermediate way to avoid spam and needing to subscribe to a lst just to comment a bug or make a suggestion | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | qgil: well, you can always ask here, or send us email individually and we can forward it to the list | 11:22 |
| qgil | LaserJock: it seems another option is to send a rant or something to sounder list or somewhere in ubuntuforum, this is what some people are doing - which is a waste of energies :) | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | qgil: yes for sure | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | qgil: you could also use the wiki I suppose | 11:23 |
| qgil | LaserJock: could you please forward this piece of log to the list? If only to seed a possible idea... | 11:24 |
| qgil | and well, the specifi problem that brought me that ideas was this page: | 11:25 |
| qgil | http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch01.html#id2473365 | 11:25 |
| qgil | It recommends Nero to burn iso from Windows | 11:25 |
| qgil | but a) Nero is not always present in Windows systems by default | 11:26 |
| qgil | b) Sometimes the software included in Windows out of the box won't let you burn an iso at all unless you register/pay something | 11:26 |
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| qgil | and c) there are gpl tools such as http://www.burnatonce.com/ extremely easy to download and use - we should probably recommend free software in windows as well | 11:27 |
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| qgil | that's it, this was an example of bug I would fill somewhere in Launchpad | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | qgil: ok, I can forward that to the list if you want but let me discuss this with you for a sec | 11:28 |
| qgil | of course! I came here to discuss :) | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | qgil: first off those are legitimate concerns. I have never owned or installed Nero myself | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | qgil: but I believe that Nero has been taken out of the present guide for those reasons | 11:29 |
| qgil | (nor me, I just bought a new laptop today and I'm in the process of getting Ubuntu Dapper flight 5, hat's why I realized this) | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | qgil: I think this might have already been addressed on the list | 11:29 |
| Burgwork | BurningISO talks about a free software solution for burning ISOs on XP | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | the ubuntu.com download page point to wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto | 11:32 |
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| qgil | Burgwork, LaserJock , help.ubuntu.com is the primary resource for help , this is where I thought of going when I had a problem | 11:34 |
| LaserJock | qgil: help.ubuntu.com has the documentation that was shipped with Breezy | 11:35 |
| qgil | the wiki page has the right content, good - then oly the help page needs update | 11:35 |
| Burgwork | qgil, yes. help.u.c should be the primary place. We are currently working on a plan to move the wiki page there | 11:35 |
| Burgwork | wiki help, that is | 11:35 |
| qgil | (and now you see we are in the typical discussion of a bug resolution process) ;) | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | qgil: doc.ubuntu.com contains what we are working on for Dapper. The dapper doc does not reference Nero | 11:36 |
| qgil | ok, good to know - this would be a wontfix then ;) | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | qgil: no, it would be a "Fix on the Way" | 11:37 |
| qgil | agreed | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | qgil: anyway, though. If you don't want to subscribe to the list you can always come here or email one of us directly. | 11:38 |
| qgil | mmm yes, I can, because I'm more or less confident with you but other people finding other bugs/improvements might not do that | 11:39 |
| qgil | anyway, don't want to discuss this, it was just an idea | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | qgil: btw, you could have reported a bug on that one, because those are the docs that are shipped in the ubuntu-docs package | 11:40 |
| qgil | I looked at help.* and the contact us page if there was a way to do it, but I didn't find the info, this could be added on these pages | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | qgil: to be honest, I think the mailing list and IRC are much easier for people to use then Malone | 11:42 |
| qgil | ok, I will come here if I find more of these | 11:43 |
| qgil | thank you for the quick answer on a Friday night :) | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | qgil: you can still send an email the list I think, but it will have to be let through by one of the moderators | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | so it might take a bit longer | 11:43 |
| robotgeek | qgil: just subscribe and email the list so that people not on irc may also share | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: the point is that he didn't want to subscribe to the list just to send like one email | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | I think anyway | 11:44 |
| qgil | robotgeek: I know subscribing would be the best, in fact I was subscribed to the ubuntu-doc. The problem is that I (like most of us can't process more mail | 11:44 |
| qgil | too may projects, man :) | 11:44 |
| qgil | many | 11:44 |
| robotgeek | qgil: ah, okay. i just subscribe to many, but read them online | 11:45 |
| robotgeek | so i can send easily :) | 11:45 |
| robotgeek | without getting all the emails | 11:45 |
| qgil | I't about time readng, no matter if online or craved in stone :) | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | qgil: so could you email the list and perhaps suggest that we have a clear statement on help.ubuntu.com for people who don't necessarily want to subscribe? | 11:48 |
| robotgeek | heh | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | yeah, yeah ;-) | 11:49 |
| qgil | LaserJock: the risk here is that I tell you 'yes, of course' now and I put it in my ToDo list of things you do in 5 mins... | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | qgil: ok, want me to do it then? | 11:50 |
| qgil | LaserJock: I was asking you to forward the piece of log please (that was when the piece was shorter though) :) So yes, please do and thanks again | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | qgil: do you want me to talk about the ISO thing? or are you satisfied? | 11:51 |
| qgil | ((In the meantime I have an ongoing Dapper installation and now I need to see how to make WXGA work at 1280x800)) | 11:51 |
| qgil | I'm satisfied with the iso thing, of course | 11:51 |
| qgil | a search engine in doc.ubuntu.com would be useful :) | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | I agree | 11:53 |
| Burgwork | actually, we don't want a search engine in doc, because it is our playpen | 11:54 |
| Burgwork | we should check to make certain robots.txt is not indexing it | 11:54 |
| Burgwork | mdke, ^ | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: but on help.ubuntu.com? | 11:56 |
| Burgwork | yes, help should be indexed | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | k, makes sense that doc. wouldn't | 11:57 |
| qgil | alright, thanks a lot and happy writing :) | 12:01 |
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