[12:06] LaserJock: except the packaging guide, i am going to commit trappist's patch [12:07] robotgeek: I can't figure out which patches are for what and which I'm supposed to use :( [12:08] LaserJock: give me a minute [12:13] trappist: committed, thanks [12:13] LaserJock: well, you can apply wget http://tra.ppi.st/bigun.diff [12:13] and revert everywhere else [12:14] or I can hack his diff ;-) [12:14] LaserJock: yes, that too [12:14] i think that has been my widest patch, wohoo [12:15] now to nuke userguide [12:16] that has been around since hoary days :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:01] lol!!! http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1868 === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@he.said.do.you.speak.in.mylanguage.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@he.said.do.you.speak.in.mylanguage.gov.au] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@d64-180-114-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp201-15.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:27] is anyone looking at the entities patches from trappist? [04:28] never mind looks like they were already applied [04:36] yep === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:47] hi Burgundavia [04:48] salut LaserJock [04:50] hi all [04:50] greetings Madpilot [04:51] hi Madpilot === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:00] bleh, Epiphany doesn't close tabs on middle-click like every other tabbed browser does [05:01] probably because that is broken? [05:01] too easy to loose the tab [05:01] epiphany also doesn't focus the location bar on alt-d [05:02] both are features very few use and are cause problems === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp201-15.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:33] morning [08:33] hey mdke [08:34] hiya [08:35] all well? [08:36] yup. responding on sounder [08:36] heh [08:42] doc-builders :) [08:42] robotgeek, but don't you know that Ubuntu's doc-makers *never* answer their email? :P [08:42] Madpilot: EU+ doc team response, heh [08:43] do you guys answer your emails? [08:43] >_< === mdke hunts for the doc-builder who doesn't answer emails [08:43] there've been a couple of emails to the list that haven't been answered on-list, not sure if they ever got answered... [08:44] argh [08:44] I applied the patch from Andreas yesterday btw [08:44] I replied but must have forgotten to reply-to-list [08:58] mdke: and they say doc writers don't answer their emails [09:00] now he is saying that he will email after writing his unofficial doc [09:00] who is this "admin@scientific.dk" chap, and does he always have this much attitude? [09:00] so essentially we have failed to read his mind, over the intraweb [09:00] no, if he can't take time to read up a page, why is our time such a waste? [09:00] something like that... === robotgeek refrains from abusing on the sounder list [09:01] i've replied [09:01] or we're supposed to telepathically *know* what he's capable of writing, and contact him to provide it? :P [09:02] exactly [09:02] odd chap [09:02] damn still no reply from the TB [09:02] hi === rob braces up [09:03] hiya [09:03] hey [09:04] I'm going to do an install tonight, are any screenshots of the installer or whatever needed? [09:05] hmm. not sure: I think there is not a lot of material on installation [09:05] do we even document the installer anywhere? [09:05] not a lot. I think. [09:06] I guess I'll go from flight 5 from the get go for the best screenshots [09:07] speaking of unanswered emails, anyone else what to tackle some of this: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34832 ? [09:08] catch you all later.. dinner [09:08] rob, the theme will probably still change quite a lot, it's best not to do screenshots right away, but make placeholders [09:09] Madpilot, yeah I'll take a look [09:09] bed... later, all [09:11] oh, i've already fixed those in KDG [09:12] i havent added anything about ndiswrapper as the wifidocs page is linked [09:21] yes, I think that is a little too detailed [09:28] i havent added the section on keyboard yet, but it looks much easier with skim and stuff === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-137.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp201-15.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@81.253.89.77] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.236.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.236.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:43] robotgeek, did you do the wiki-Nano link in the desktop guide yesterday? === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:27] oh no, it might have been andreas' patch [03:30] yes mdke, looks like andreas [03:31] Morning [03:32] morning Kyral [03:32] damn my font is playing tricks...or my mind hasn't woken up yett..for a split second I saw that as "incoming Kyral" === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [03:33] Kyral: same thing [03:35] [03:37] robotgeek, actually, wasn't him [03:37] morning Kamping_Kaiser [03:37] robotgeek, for some reason the entity was missing a & and a ;, any idea if there may be more like that? [03:37] hi robotgeek [03:37] mdke: there were two patches he sent it? [03:38] robotgeek, not in his patches [03:38] it was like that already === robotgeek looks to see if he committed something [03:40] mdke: you mean something without entities? [03:41] robotgeek, it said url="wiki-Nano" [03:41] i've fixed it, I just wanna know if it is likely that there are more [03:42] not sure [03:45] damn [03:46] ulink doesn't throw an error? [03:47] no, cos it might be the right address [03:47] lemme grep through all the ulinks [03:48] okay, maybe after coffee :) [03:49] hehe [03:50] more importantly, is it possible that any other entities are like that? [03:50] from elsewhere in rocco's patches [03:50] mdke: it wasn't rocco's patch, it did not touch udg i think [03:51] ah good [03:51] oh no, there was some discussion about lowercase entities [03:55] mdke: nope, look at r 2518 [03:55] it was wiki-Nano when you committed it === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp201-15.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek thanks gmail's search [03:58] ok, so my bad [03:59] sorry [04:03] mdke: no problem, i will try and write a script which looks for these entities [04:03] robotgeek, sorry to have put you to the trouble of searching that [04:03] mdke: no problem, was pretty easy to find [04:04] nano is mentioned only 4 times after i joined the docteam :) === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:15] is there are reason why 's are commented out in the authors files? [04:16] maybe spam protection for us :) [04:17] hmm, because i would prefer to use the author entities but that means email addresses will not show up [04:17] i don't have an problem with that... [04:18] the release notes just have email addresses in them as it is now [04:18] i am not sure, i just guessed [04:18] I gave up on protecting my email address [04:18] gmail protects me :) [04:19] usually :-/ [04:19] yo trappist [04:19] at least on my website my email address is made of html entities. that's probably saved me from a spam or two, but it's all over google, so it doesn't really matter [04:19] heya robotgeek [04:20] i am curious about who commented them *all* out in the first place [04:20] mgalvin: svn blame? [04:21] i commented out mine, cause the one i copied from commented his :) [04:22] 1363 jeffsch [04:22] but then it looks like he did the whole file [04:22] yea, that is b/c he commited it for me a while ago [04:23] hmm, was so long ago, i don't remeber if that was how i added it [04:23] meh [04:24] does anyone object to uncommenting them so they show up correctly in the author lists (where the ent's are used)? [04:24] it looks like most of the email lines are 'blamed' on sean or sean wheller [04:26] i am not sure, mgalvin . maybe ask mdke [04:26] hehe, we can just blame sean for everything :) [04:26] yea, i will email the list [04:45] in my author entries i've followed what the privious author did === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:42] I was wondering the other day how to best deal with contributors vs. team members [05:43] as far as authorship [05:45] so far I've just been doing it like http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ln-Credits-And-License.html [05:45] i say that the author should be the team, and contributors arranged as LaserJock has done. [05:46] +1 [05:47] +1 [05:50] ok, so did I do it right? or do I need to add the doc team somewhere? [05:50] you have it right [05:50] lots of docs don't though === robotgeek galres at his [05:50] compare http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html with http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ [05:52] i see [05:56] mdke: somehow, the css for the kdg has been missed (the clickability is lost) [05:56] right, hang on [05:58] looks like my change got reverted [05:58] line 55 of kubuntu/libs/kde-default.css if that's the css file [05:59] i've decided to use a different css file [05:59] forgot your change, sorry [06:00] you remember what it was, or you want I should send another patch? [06:03] got it [06:03] robotgeek, reload the page, is that better? [06:04] hmm, no [06:05] trappist, isn't this right? http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/common/kubuntu-default.css [06:05] there's nothing relevant in there [06:05] better mdke , but still not able to click APT on main page [06:06] trappist, i thought it was the padding-left bit [06:06] I don't see any padding in that file... just a sec... [06:06] oh you meant kde-default.css :) [06:07] no, kubuntu-default.css [06:07] at the bottom [06:07] kubuntu-default.css only has two blocks, .BannerBottomLeft and .BannerBottomRight [06:08] at least the one in the link you pasted [06:08] huh? [06:08] oh nm I just refreshed, there it is... [06:09] mdke: both files are linked, and I guess the other one is taking precedence. [06:09] maybe the contents of kubuntu-default.css should just be added to kde-default.css to avoid confusion, and get rid of kubuntu-default.css? [06:12] we can't do that [06:12] because kde-default.css is shipped with kde [06:12] ah. [06:12] so we need to leave it unchanged for the distro docs [06:12] but the second stylesheet should take precedence, that's what css is all about, I thought [06:12] try adding !important to the padding-left: 1em; [06:12] it works for the Banner thing [06:13] or add padding-top: 0; padding-bottom: 0; to it [06:13] ok [06:13] I think padding-left is just reinforcing padding, and not eliminating padding in other directions [06:14] oh good point [06:14] doh [06:14] thanks trappist [06:15] works? [06:17] yup [06:20] mdke: while we're in there, about the other parts of that file... small point... adding units to values of 0 is unnecessary and therefore not recommended, just to save the extra coupla bytes of bandwith (for us and the users) [06:26] trappist, which file? [06:26] kubuntu-default.css [06:26] oh i see, the "px"? [06:26] yeah [06:26] feel free to eradicate that [06:27] ok [06:27] oh no you don't have commit access yet, I'll do it [06:27] let's get commit access for trappist, hey everyone [06:27] :) [06:28] trappist, due to a shocking decision made a while back, you need to become an ubuntu member first [06:29] see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [06:29] ubuntu-something member, or... [06:30] ah, I see [06:32] well I'll add some stuff to my wiki page and see if I can get myself memberized [06:34] trappist: i'll +1 [06:34] thanks [06:41] we all will :) [06:41] thanks, you guys rock :) === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@82.109.136.122] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:38] when is the next meeting to vote for trappist? === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:42] jjesse: ? [07:42] the next meeting to vote for trappist as a member so he can get commit acces :) [07:42] jjesse: fridge.ubuntu.com should have the answer [07:43] hmm, I don't see any CC meetings scheduled [07:43] but I do see a Doc Team meeting [07:57] i can't make it to the meeting, sorry [07:58] robotgeek_away: doh, and I was adding a ton of items to the agenda ;-) [07:58] saw that too [07:58] later [08:53] is this us? -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/25972 === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:54] not that i am aweare of === trappist checks out the iptables package [08:57] yeah it's there [09:01] that is an upstream issue I would think [09:02] upstream from debian possible, but it's package specific. only the titles of the docs are wrong. the docs are for 2.4 and later, and the docs themselves say so. [09:03] trappist: right, but the docs are probably shipped with the iptables package [09:03] right, but the docs are correct :) it's just the titles (in the package) that are wrong. [09:04] hmm, iptables is a Main package :( [09:05] why the :( ? [09:05] cause if it was Universe I could upload a fix ;-) [09:05] oh :) [09:05] I attached a patch to the bug report [09:06] hmm, I could make a debdiff and see if my core-dev friends can upload it [09:07] ok how does one make a debdiff. I haven't been able to figure that out. [09:07] you create a new source packages and use debdiff like you would diff [09:08] oh so it's not run against built packages [09:08] well you can then use patch on the current package [09:08] so if I hadn't already deleted what I'd done I could have said debdiff instead of diff [09:09] yeah, but you would need to bump the version and add a changelog entry [09:09] gotcha. [09:09] I'll show you [09:18] trappist: check out http://www.chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/iptables_1.3.3-2ubuntu4.debdiff [09:22] so that confirms, I could have just said debdiff (if I'd done the changelog stuff) [09:22] the patch looks difficult to apply, though, being in /tmp/blahblah/... [09:28] no [09:28] it doesn't matter [09:31] I guess that's some debdiff smartness [09:31] so am I doing my time zone math right? do we have a meeting in half an hour? [09:33] I think so [09:33] btw, to apply my debdiff I just did "patch -p3 < iptables_1.3.3-2ubuntu4.debdiff" [09:33] from the directory with the source package [09:34] oh, -p3 to get rid of the /tmp part of the path. by difficult to apply I meant I can't use -p0 and I have a hard time figuring out what p level to use [09:34] trappist: the reason it has the /tmp/ stuff is it actually unpacks both source packages and does some diff magic [09:35] trappist: the secret to -p is to guess at the number and then mess around with it until the patch applies cleanly ;-) [09:35] yeah :) [09:35] after a while you start to see how many you need to strip off [09:48] anybody going to be around for the meeting? [09:49] Meeting? [09:50] Kyral: doc team meeting in ~ 10 min [09:50] ah === Kyral wonders if he should stick his head in for it [09:51] Kyral: you busy today? [09:51] LaserJock, no...I just started gaming and lost rack of time lol [09:51] Kyral: it is a Hug Day today [09:52] I know I know! [09:52] I meant to do so much work...but then I started playing Mega Man Zero 2 lol [09:52] Kyral: https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs ;-) [09:53] LaserJock, I haven't checked my email ALL week [09:53] I'm scared to see how much I have to download when I get back to school [09:54] Kyral: I haven't emailed anybody I dont' think. If you have time and need something to do, we subscribed all the bugs to the motuscience LP team so all you have to do is check out that url [09:54] Kyral: and start fixing ;-) [09:57] mgalvin, ping? [09:57] mdke: pong [09:58] mgalvin, hiya. so are we gonna do author=docteam and contributors=individuals in releasenotes? maybe it would be a decent meeting item [10:00] mdke: hey, i think we should, it seems to be the most logical way of dealing with it and we should also do it to keep the docs in a consistent format [10:01] great. [10:01] mdke: I just threw some agenda items in because it was blank. Hope that is ok [10:01] we can certainly make it a meeting item if you feel more discussion is needed, or to just make sure everyone know to use this method [10:02] i think we should [10:02] LaserJock, can we scrap the dapper+1 item? [10:02] mdke: sure, I don't care [10:02] ok, sounds good to me [10:03] mdke: it just seems like our meetings fizzle out sometimes so I tried to stimulate some discussion ;-) [10:03] LaserJock, yeah I appreciate it. all the agenda items are great, but i think it's early to talk about dapper+1 [10:06] so, meeting quickly? [10:13] is there a meeting today? [10:13] or was there a meeting? [10:14] sorry was busy tat work [10:14] jjesse, just started === dsas [n=dean@host86-143-88-74.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgee1_away [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:13] LaserJock, what username? [11:13] umm, I guess laserjock [11:13] ok [11:13] that is what i use for the MOTU server so I'll keep them consistent ;-) === qgil [n=qgil@29.Red-83-32-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:16] afk [11:16] hi Burgwork & co. Question: is it possible to fill a bug / feature request against a piece of Ubuntu documentation? [11:17] qgil: is that shipped documentation? [11:17] help.ubuntu.com pages LaserJock [11:18] qgil: I'd email the ubuntu-docs email list [11:18] LaserJock: ok, although the paradox is precisely that I want to suggest the possibility to fill bugs in order to avoid the eed of subscribing to a mailing list... ;) [11:20] qgil: well, it is possible to file bugs on the shipped documentation (source package is ubuntu-docs) but you can't for other docs [11:21] qgil: the reason you have to subscribe, I think, is that otherwise we get tons of spam if it is open to everybody [11:22] LaserJock: this is why filing bugs is an intermediate way to avoid spam and needing to subscribe to a lst just to comment a bug or make a suggestion [11:22] qgil: well, you can always ask here, or send us email individually and we can forward it to the list [11:22] LaserJock: it seems another option is to send a rant or something to sounder list or somewhere in ubuntuforum, this is what some people are doing - which is a waste of energies :) [11:23] qgil: yes for sure [11:23] qgil: you could also use the wiki I suppose [11:24] LaserJock: could you please forward this piece of log to the list? If only to seed a possible idea... [11:25] and well, the specifi problem that brought me that ideas was this page: [11:25] http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch01.html#id2473365 [11:25] It recommends Nero to burn iso from Windows [11:26] but a) Nero is not always present in Windows systems by default [11:26] b) Sometimes the software included in Windows out of the box won't let you burn an iso at all unless you register/pay something === manicka is now known as manicka_testing [11:27] and c) there are gpl tools such as http://www.burnatonce.com/ extremely easy to download and use - we should probably recommend free software in windows as well === manicka_testing is now known as manicka [11:28] that's it, this was an example of bug I would fill somewhere in Launchpad [11:28] qgil: ok, I can forward that to the list if you want but let me discuss this with you for a sec [11:28] of course! I came here to discuss :) [11:29] qgil: first off those are legitimate concerns. I have never owned or installed Nero myself [11:29] qgil: but I believe that Nero has been taken out of the present guide for those reasons [11:29] (nor me, I just bought a new laptop today and I'm in the process of getting Ubuntu Dapper flight 5, hat's why I realized this) [11:29] qgil: I think this might have already been addressed on the list [11:29] BurningISO talks about a free software solution for burning ISOs on XP [11:32] the ubuntu.com download page point to wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:34] Burgwork, LaserJock , help.ubuntu.com is the primary resource for help , this is where I thought of going when I had a problem [11:35] qgil: help.ubuntu.com has the documentation that was shipped with Breezy [11:35] the wiki page has the right content, good - then oly the help page needs update [11:35] qgil, yes. help.u.c should be the primary place. We are currently working on a plan to move the wiki page there [11:35] wiki help, that is [11:36] (and now you see we are in the typical discussion of a bug resolution process) ;) [11:36] qgil: doc.ubuntu.com contains what we are working on for Dapper. The dapper doc does not reference Nero [11:36] ok, good to know - this would be a wontfix then ;) [11:37] qgil: no, it would be a "Fix on the Way" [11:37] agreed [11:38] qgil: anyway, though. If you don't want to subscribe to the list you can always come here or email one of us directly. [11:39] mmm yes, I can, because I'm more or less confident with you but other people finding other bugs/improvements might not do that [11:39] anyway, don't want to discuss this, it was just an idea [11:40] qgil: btw, you could have reported a bug on that one, because those are the docs that are shipped in the ubuntu-docs package [11:41] I looked at help.* and the contact us page if there was a way to do it, but I didn't find the info, this could be added on these pages [11:42] qgil: to be honest, I think the mailing list and IRC are much easier for people to use then Malone [11:43] ok, I will come here if I find more of these [11:43] thank you for the quick answer on a Friday night :) [11:43] qgil: you can still send an email the list I think, but it will have to be let through by one of the moderators [11:43] so it might take a bit longer [11:43] qgil: just subscribe and email the list so that people not on irc may also share [11:44] robotgeek: the point is that he didn't want to subscribe to the list just to send like one email [11:44] I think anyway [11:44] robotgeek: I know subscribing would be the best, in fact I was subscribed to the ubuntu-doc. The problem is that I (like most of us can't process more mail [11:44] too may projects, man :) [11:44] many [11:45] qgil: ah, okay. i just subscribe to many, but read them online [11:45] so i can send easily :) [11:45] without getting all the emails [11:45] I't about time readng, no matter if online or craved in stone :) [11:48] qgil: so could you email the list and perhaps suggest that we have a clear statement on help.ubuntu.com for people who don't necessarily want to subscribe? [11:49] heh [11:49] yeah, yeah ;-) [11:49] LaserJock: the risk here is that I tell you 'yes, of course' now and I put it in my ToDo list of things you do in 5 mins... [11:50] qgil: ok, want me to do it then? [11:50] LaserJock: I was asking you to forward the piece of log please (that was when the piece was shorter though) :) So yes, please do and thanks again [11:51] qgil: do you want me to talk about the ISO thing? or are you satisfied? [11:51] ((In the meantime I have an ongoing Dapper installation and now I need to see how to make WXGA work at 1280x800)) [11:51] I'm satisfied with the iso thing, of course [11:52] a search engine in doc.ubuntu.com would be useful :) [11:53] I agree [11:54] actually, we don't want a search engine in doc, because it is our playpen [11:54] we should check to make certain robots.txt is not indexing it [11:54] mdke, ^ [11:56] Burgwork: but on help.ubuntu.com? [11:57] yes, help should be indexed [11:57] k, makes sense that doc. wouldn't [12:01] alright, thanks a lot and happy writing :) === qgil [n=qgil@29.Red-83-32-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-doc []