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LaserJock | hmm, anybody watching the DPL debate? | 12:06 |
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natroll- | DPL? | 12:07 |
LaserJock | the debian leader, can't remember what P stands for | 12:08 |
LaserJock | Debian Project Leader | 12:08 |
natroll- | so they're like electing a leader or something? | 12:10 |
LaserJock | yeah | 12:10 |
LaserJock | I was wondering if Ubuntu might come up | 12:11 |
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Erlang | Riddell: I would like to know what is your take on bug 34983: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bug/34983. I don't really know where to look. | 01:06 |
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netzmeister | hello MOTU's | 01:36 |
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netzmeister | is there a tool, where i can simple manage the runlevel options? | 01:36 |
dolsonap | netzmeister: sysv-rc-conf - will that work? | 01:37 |
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netzmeister | dolson: i try.. | 01:42 |
netzmeister | dolson: perfect.. thx | 01:43 |
dolson | netzmeister: no prob :) | 01:43 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 02:08 |
slomo | hi bddebian :) | 02:08 |
bddebian | Heya slomo | 02:09 |
ajmitch | hello | 02:12 |
slomo | hi ajmitch | 02:13 |
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ajmitch | hah, people filing automatix-related bugs in malone | 02:16 |
bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 02:25 |
slomo | ajmitch: automatix was on /. , osnews, etc today :/ | 02:28 |
ajmitch | I know :( | 02:28 |
ajmitch | people who think it's the greatest gift to ubuntu | 02:30 |
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dinner | ajmitch: what do they report the automatix bugs against? | 03:04 |
LaserJock_away | sorry, I guess I had a typo when I left for dinner ;-) | 03:05 |
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bddebian | Heya bmonty | 03:08 |
bmonty | hi bddebian | 03:08 |
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minghua | bmonty: oh I didn't realize we were talking on -devel. anyway, I don't have time to look at this m17n bug right now, but I'll definitely look at it later (and maybe ask upstream) | 03:15 |
bmonty | minghua: I think we are definately going to have to ask upstream since the current packages are supposed to work together | 03:17 |
bmonty | minghua: oops, looks like we are slightly behind the debian version | 03:18 |
minghua | bmonty: just for the record, this libm17n 1.2 + m17n-db 1.3 combination seems to break the scim-m17n in debian as well | 03:18 |
bmonty | minghua: ok, do you have a good idea where the versions are of the packages between ubuntu and debian? | 03:19 |
bmonty | maybe we should do a set of sync/UVF exceptions to get the latest versions into dapper | 03:19 |
bmonty | while we work the issue with m17n-db | 03:19 |
minghua | bmonty: looking at that right now. sid has: m17n-db 1.3.1-1, libm17n0 1.2.0-5.1 | 03:19 |
minghua | in dapper we have: m17n-db 1.3.1-1build1, libm17n0 1.2.0-5 | 03:21 |
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minghua | hmm, debian #325528 seems interesting | 03:23 |
Ubugtu | debian bug 325528 in libm17n-0 "segfaults with mgp, rendering it unusuable" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/325528 | 03:23 |
Erlang | ubuntu #34983 | 03:25 |
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bmonty | this is odd, since the new version of m17n-db only changed some packaging stuff and add a patch for tamil | 03:25 |
Erlang | malone #34983 | 03:25 |
Ubugtu | malone bug 34983 in arts "arts cannot work with esd" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34983 | 03:25 |
Erlang | ah, so that's how it work. | 03:25 |
minghua | bmonty: maybe not related, as scim-m17n seems to be broken on sid as well. | 03:27 |
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bmonty | minghua: ok, one more question....does the bug in malone only occur with the Amharic db or all dbs? | 03:27 |
minghua | bmonty: as I've said in the bug report, scim-m17n doesn't start for me at all | 03:28 |
minghua | so I can't even reach the "crash" step | 03:28 |
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ajmitch | excellent, almost got my dapper box up to date again so I can build stuff :) | 04:18 |
bddebian | Yeah sure ;-P | 04:23 |
chillywilly | I had 64bit dapper running at work but it was just too unstable for me so I reinstalled 32bit breezy :( | 04:23 |
Se7h | * Initial release Closes: #nnnn (nnnn is the bug number of your ITP) | 04:23 |
Se7h | ITP stands for ? | 04:23 |
bddebian | Intend to Package or some such | 04:24 |
Se7h | whats that? | 04:24 |
Se7h | o0 | 04:24 |
natroll- | Illustriously trmendous package | 04:25 |
Kyral | Bug Day tomorrow correct? | 04:25 |
natroll- | goodnight cruel world | 04:25 |
chillywilly | illconceived tyranical pellets | 04:27 |
Se7h | lolol | 04:27 |
ajmitch | Se7h: ITP is a debian term meaning that someone is planning to package that software | 04:28 |
Se7h | thats what im doing | 04:29 |
Se7h | packaging software | 04:29 |
Se7h | so should i replace it with '0001' ? | 04:30 |
Se7h | lol | 04:30 |
ajmitch | no | 04:30 |
ajmitch | do you plan to maintain it in debian? | 04:30 |
chillywilly | bah | 04:31 |
Se7h | sure if its worth it | 04:31 |
ajmitch | Se7h: then file an ITP :) | 04:31 |
Se7h | file an ITP ? | 04:31 |
ajmitch | yes, the debian documentation you're probably reading says how | 04:32 |
Se7h | actualy im reading the file created by dh_make | 04:32 |
ajmitch | ah | 04:32 |
Se7h | so i'm a little blind on this ITP thing | 04:34 |
LaserJock | Se7h: ITP info can be found at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ and http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html | 04:42 |
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Burgundavia | ok, slightly offtopic. When compiling, it is complaining of not being able to find libtool.m4 when I have libtool installed | 05:01 |
ajmitch | Burgundavia: you broke something? | 05:03 |
ajmitch | ls /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 | 05:03 |
Burgundavia | it is there | 05:04 |
ajmitch | great | 05:04 |
Burgundavia | is the path wrong to find them? | 05:04 |
ajmitch | shouldn't be | 05:04 |
ajmitch | what's doing the complaining? | 05:04 |
Burgundavia | autogen.sh | 05:04 |
ajmitch | more context needed | 05:05 |
Burgundavia | I am compiling evo-conversation and gimmie | 05:05 |
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LaserJock | hi tritium | 05:56 |
ajmitch | hi tritium, LaserJock | 05:57 |
tritium | hi LaserJock. Oh, by the way, I can't reproduce that texdoctk bug any more. | 05:57 |
tritium | Hi ajmitch. | 05:57 |
LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 05:57 |
tritium | But I am finding a repeatable bug in tor. (/var/run/tor disappears with every reboot) | 05:57 |
LaserJock | tritium: well I suppose that is a good thing | 05:57 |
LaserJock | hmm, well that isn't :( | 05:58 |
Kyral | goodnight Ubunteros | 05:58 |
tritium | good night, Kyral | 05:58 |
LaserJock | cya Kyral | 05:59 |
tritium | LaserJock: yeah | 06:00 |
ajmitch | tritium: tor's initscript will need fixed then - it's a result of /var/run being a tmpfs now | 06:00 |
Erlang | lprng has the same problem. | 06:01 |
Erlang | Is that a major bug that the daemon won't start for that reason? | 06:02 |
Se7h | hi LaserJock | 06:03 |
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Se7h | tkx for the urls | 06:03 |
tritium | ajmitch: hmm, I noticed that. I'll see if my meager skills are enough to fix it. Perhaps I'll check the changes made to lprng. | 06:04 |
tritium | thanks for the tip, Erlang, ajmitch | 06:04 |
Erlang | I've added mkdir -p /var/run/lprng, somewhere, in the startup script. | 06:04 |
bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:07 |
tritium | good night, bddebian :) | 06:07 |
LaserJock | cya bddebian | 06:07 |
tritium | Erlang: is that the proper thing to do? (not doubting, just asking) | 06:07 |
Erlang | tritium: It Works (tm) ;) | 06:08 |
tritium | heh | 06:08 |
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Erlang | I have no idea if that's the Proper Thing to do. Sorry. | 06:08 |
tritium | no worries | 06:08 |
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Se7h | after the version name | 06:15 |
Se7h | what does XUbuntuX stands for? | 06:15 |
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Erlang | Xfce Ubuntu | 06:16 |
Se7h | o.0 | 06:16 |
Erlang | oh and there is a projet for Ebuntu too. | 06:16 |
Se7h | is that directed to me? cus i dont see any relation | 06:17 |
Erlang | It is directed to whoever reads it... | 06:18 |
ajmitch | Erlang: no relation at all to the question sorry :) | 06:18 |
Erlang | o | 06:18 |
LaserJock | Se7h: that is how we version when we make changes | 06:18 |
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Erlang | I see now. | 06:19 |
ajmitch | eg 1.2.3-4ubuntu5 | 06:19 |
ajmitch | 5th ubuntu change to the 4th debian revision of 1.2.3 :) | 06:19 |
LaserJock | Se7h: 0ubuntuX is used for programs that aren't in Debian | 06:19 |
Se7h | so 0ubuntu = not in debian | 06:20 |
Se7h | and the second digit ? | 06:21 |
Se7h | oh ajmitch, sorry | 06:21 |
Se7h | im blind | 06:21 |
Se7h | lol | 06:21 |
Erlang | I did not follow this convention for kpl which sleeps in REVU. Fixing that. | 06:22 |
tritium | ajmitch: if I fix it, will you help me remember how to upload it? :) | 06:24 |
LaserJock | Se7h: each time we need a new revision we bump that number | 06:25 |
Se7h | ye :) | 06:28 |
Se7h | i get it now | 06:28 |
Se7h | theres no ITP for the release im patching | 06:28 |
Se7h | so no 'Close: #nnnn' for me right? | 06:29 |
Se7h | :p | 06:29 |
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ajmitch | tritium: sure :) | 06:30 |
tritium | thanks! | 06:30 |
ajmitch | looks like the mail will be getting spam-checked for another few hours yet | 06:31 |
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LaserJock | Se7h: unless there is a bug you are fixing with that release | 06:32 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: hehe, how many? | 06:38 |
Se7h | LaserJock no, just an updated version of it | 06:38 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: I don't know :) | 06:39 |
Hobbsee | eek | 06:39 |
Hobbsee | that's definetly too many then! | 06:39 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: let's just say that I got 25K messages in about 3-4 weeks | 06:40 |
Hobbsee | sheesh! | 06:40 |
ajmitch | so far I've processed the first 3 days of them through spamassassin | 06:40 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 06:41 |
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Lathiat | even on your dual beast | 06:41 |
Lathiat | ? | 06:41 |
ajmitch | Lathiat: I/O limited | 06:41 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: ctrl + a, delete key | 06:41 |
ajmitch | running on the old drives still | 06:41 |
Lathiat | ajmitch: haha | 06:41 |
Lathiat | should be on to the raid0/5? ;p | 06:42 |
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ajmitch | I've got the drives in | 06:42 |
ajmitch | and the system is still nice & quiet | 06:42 |
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Lathiat | mines pretty quiet | 06:43 |
Lathiat | i dont notice it | 06:43 |
Lathiat | and it has 3 120mm fans in the front | 06:43 |
Lathiat | i guess 120s are quiet | 06:43 |
ajmitch | yeah | 06:44 |
Lathiat | well that said | 06:44 |
Lathiat | you can get 200CFM 120s now | 06:44 |
Lathiat | we just got some 100CFMs they push alot of air, i'd love to see a 200 | 06:44 |
ajmitch | probably starting to get a bit noisy :) | 06:46 |
ajmitch | sadly I've just got 80mm fans in here | 06:46 |
ajmitch | and I haven't hooked most of them up | 06:46 |
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Se7h | ok | 07:31 |
Se7h | finaly | 07:31 |
Se7h | package ready for upstream | 07:31 |
LaserJock | Se7h: gonna upload it to REVU? | 07:32 |
Se7h | ye | 07:33 |
Se7h | i just need to remember how | 07:33 |
Hobbsee | Se7h: dput revu *.changes | 07:33 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: that might pickup the binary build also | 07:34 |
Hobbsee | would it? | 07:34 |
Hobbsee | doesnt when i do it... | 07:34 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: it would if there was a .changes file for the binary from pbuilder or something | 07:37 |
Hobbsee | ah ok | 07:37 |
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Se7h | omg | 07:52 |
Se7h | almost 7am | 07:52 |
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tritium | hmm, I uploaded a fix, but Seveas had his own fix posted on the bug report. I wonder why he didn't upload it... | 08:09 |
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ajmitch | because he's not a motu? | 08:10 |
tritium | that would be a valid reason ;) | 08:11 |
tritium | I thought he was now. | 08:11 |
ajmitch | if he had a fix he should have assigned it to motu-reviewers | 08:11 |
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Se7h | $ /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 08:12 |
Se7h | :| | 08:12 |
ajmitch | Se7h: and is debian/rules executable? | 08:12 |
Se7h | yes | 08:13 |
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tritium | darn, I should have used $TORPIDDIR instead of /var/run/tor | 08:15 |
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Se7h | ajmitch any idea? | 08:18 |
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tritium | hi dholbach | 08:22 |
dholbach | tritium: hey Michael! | 08:22 |
dholbach | I noticed your upload! :-) | 08:22 |
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tritium | heh, thanks :) it has been a while, huh? | 08:22 |
dholbach | a tiny bit :) | 08:23 |
ajmitch | Se7h: so debian/rules is 0755, /usr/bin/make & /usr/bin/fakeroot exist, and the filesystem isn't mounted noexec? | 08:23 |
ajmitch | dholbach: it's always great to see MOTUs getting back into action :) | 08:24 |
dholbach | ajmitch: yeah... there are a lot, I'm waiting for :) | 08:24 |
ajmitch | like me :) | 08:25 |
dholbach | and somebody *COULD* write up the motu report ;) | 08:25 |
tritium | ajmitch wass a big help, like always | 08:25 |
dholbach | that'd be great | 08:25 |
tritium | s/wass/was | 08:25 |
ajmitch | tritium: I seem to do more helping than hacking these days | 08:25 |
tritium | ajmitch: it's a valuable contribution, all the same | 08:26 |
Se7h | [07:23:05] <ajmitch> Se7h: so debian/rules is 0755, /usr/bin/make & /usr/bin/fakeroot exist, and the filesystem isn't mounted noexec? <- thats right | 08:28 |
ajmitch | Se7h: how are you trying to build it? dpkg-buildpackage? | 08:29 |
Se7h | yup | 08:29 |
Se7h | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 08:30 |
Se7h | /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 08:30 |
ajmitch | from what I've seen it's usually permissions or noexec.. | 08:30 |
Se7h | wierd | 08:33 |
ajmitch | rather | 08:33 |
Se7h | well | 08:34 |
Se7h | i'll keep it for later today | 08:35 |
Se7h | 7.35am here | 08:35 |
ajmitch | ok | 08:35 |
ajmitch | :) | 08:35 |
Se7h | and i need some sleep, ciao | 08:35 |
ajmitch | bye | 08:35 |
tritium | Is it worth another upload, simply to change /var/run/tor to $TORPIDDIR in 2 instances? | 08:37 |
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tritium | looks like it didn't build on ia64, but that has happened before | 08:44 |
sivang | morning all | 08:45 |
tritium | morning, sivang | 08:45 |
sivang | hey tritium , how's it going? | 08:49 |
tritium | not bad, yourself? | 08:49 |
Seveas | <tritium> hmm, I uploaded a fix, but Seveas had his own fix posted on the bug report. I wonder why he didn't upload it... <-- don't know what this is about but I'm no dev/motu so can't upload | 08:56 |
tritium | Seveas: yeah, sorry, I found out after the fact. I also didn't see your fix until I had done my own. | 08:57 |
sivang | Seveas: what have you fixed this time? :) , btw, pong again | 08:58 |
Seveas | sivang, /msg ubugtu schedule some_official_timeaone_name | 08:59 |
tritium | Mine's a bit different, but gets the job done. Although I'm already wanting a tiny change. | 08:59 |
sivang | Seveas: doesn't know about IST/IDT | 09:00 |
ajmitch | Seveas: in future, if you have patches you want someone to upload, assign the bug to motureviewers. If this isn't documented on the wiki somewhere, it should be :) | 09:00 |
Seveas | sivang, try 'Israel' | 09:01 |
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sivang | Seveas: k | 09:01 |
ajmitch | sivang: same with NZDT/NZST | 09:01 |
sivang | oops | 09:01 |
sivang | I dyslexitivy msg'd you thinking you are the bot :p | 09:02 |
ajmitch | haha | 09:02 |
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Seveas | it recognizes everything in the Olson tz database | 09:03 |
sivang | cooool! | 09:03 |
sivang | works like butter | 09:03 |
sivang | howeer, you may want to make it case insensitive | 09:03 |
sivang | didn't work for first time when I msg'd it israel. | 09:03 |
Seveas | ghe, point | 09:03 |
sivang | and I capitilize names only when talking to humanes, writing on the wiki, or naming classes | 09:04 |
sivang | ;-) | 09:04 |
tritium | dholbach: the ia64 build failed (which it appears to have done in the past). Anything I should do? | 09:13 |
tritium | appears to be a ghostscript problem | 09:13 |
dholbach | tritium: do you have the buildlog somewhere? | 09:14 |
tritium | dholbach: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1771033/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-ia64.tor_0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:14 |
tritium | others look fine (waiting for hppa, however) | 09:15 |
dholbach | hrm | 09:15 |
dholbach | does ia64 have the same gs version as the other have? | 09:16 |
tritium | not sure | 09:16 |
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MrFaber | hi all | 09:22 |
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MrFaber | Who is the Motu for tor? :) | 09:23 |
tritium | floe (ia64) I doesn't like building tor | 09:24 |
tritium | MrFaber: I uploaded a fix tonight, why? | 09:24 |
MrFaber | thx | 09:24 |
tritium | sure, did you get it already? | 09:24 |
MrFaber | it doesn't start and tells me that there is /var/run/tor missing | 09:24 |
MrFaber | no, I don't think that I got it already | 09:25 |
tritium | MrFaber: that's what I fixed | 09:25 |
MrFaber | but I am updateing right now | 09:25 |
MrFaber | thx | 09:25 |
MrFaber | Only missing is loop-aes ;) | 09:25 |
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tritium | It may take some time, MrFaber | 09:25 |
MrFaber | yes, I see no tor package in update | 09:26 |
tritium | it just built recently, so give it some time | 09:26 |
MrFaber | many thanks | 09:27 |
tritium | sure :) | 09:27 |
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dholbach | good night tritium | 09:36 |
tritium | good night, dholbach :) | 09:36 |
dholbach | tritium: it's the HUG DAY today - I can't just go to sleep | 09:37 |
dholbach | ok guys... let's all move over to #ubuntu-bugs and get some Universe bugs sorted! | 09:37 |
tritium | It is? | 09:37 |
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dholbach | yeah | 09:37 |
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ajmitch | hi Hobbsee! | 09:43 |
Hobbsee | hey ajmitch! | 09:44 |
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kelmo_lap | hi siretart | 09:44 |
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Hobbsee | argh! | 09:47 |
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Hobbsee | hehe go Mithrandir! | 09:47 |
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StevenK | Argh | 09:48 |
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dholbach | :) | 09:48 |
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StevenK | Mithrandir: Meh | 09:49 |
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StevenK | Mithrandir: My wife takes great delight in putting ice cubes down my neck and back | 09:49 |
Mithrandir | StevenK: and you can't fight back since you're in the middle of summer so you're at ESNOW. | 09:49 |
Mithrandir | StevenK: uh, why? :-) | 09:50 |
StevenK | She just does | 09:50 |
Hobbsee | weird. | 09:55 |
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Toadstool | hi here | 11:16 |
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Yagisan | G'day all | 01:32 |
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Yagisan | :( | 01:38 |
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Hobbsee | Yagisan: eek! | 01:42 |
Yagisan | Hobbsee: oh yes eek. That is the condensed version | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | i'm not sure i want to know the full version! | 01:43 |
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Hobbsee | night all... | 01:44 |
Yagisan | night Hobbsee | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | before i pass out :P | 01:44 |
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xerxas | Hi everyone | 01:58 |
xerxas | it's bug day , so I'm looking at bugs, and I see a bug on package aqsis | 01:58 |
xerxas | I see that: | 01:58 |
xerxas | root@panther:/home/xerxas# LANG=C apt-cache show aqsis |grep Maintainer | 01:58 |
xerxas | Maintainer: Will Newton <will@debian.org> | 01:58 |
xerxas | but I can't subscribe that guy to the bug | 01:59 |
xerxas | what shall I do ? | 01:59 |
azeem | it's the Debian maintainer, why do you want to subcribe him? | 01:59 |
xerxas | azeem: because I don't understand the process :) | 02:00 |
xerxas | this package have been taken directly from debian ? | 02:00 |
azeem | no, it got modified by Ubuntu | 02:01 |
azeem | see the version | 02:01 |
azeem | check its changelog to see who worked on it last time | 02:01 |
xerxas | So who is the ubuntu responsible for it ? | 02:01 |
xerxas | ok | 02:01 |
azeem | MOTU? | 02:01 |
xerxas | I just added a comment: there is missing the aqsis-lib package | 02:02 |
xerxas | but there's a package named aqsis-libc2a | 02:05 |
xerxas | azeem: what should I do ? | 02:05 |
azeem | I don't know about the proper procedure either, I just think you shouldn't bother the Debian guy unless you're sure he's intersted | 02:07 |
xerxas | ok | 02:07 |
azeem | maybe this one still needs transitioning for the last C++ update? | 02:08 |
xerxas | he doesn't seem to be | 02:08 |
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xerxas | 2005-08-14 23:04 pgregory | 02:08 |
xerxas | * render/: kdtree.h, points.cpp, points.h: Fix problem with | 02:08 |
xerxas | RiPoints primitives, introduced during refactor of the KDTree | 02:08 |
xerxas | implementation for the new sampling code. As the KDTree didn't | 02:08 |
xerxas | end up getting used in the new sampling code, I reverted to the | 02:08 |
xerxas | old implementation. | 02:08 |
xerxas | oops | 02:08 |
xerxas | sorry for flooding | 02:08 |
xerxas | this is the last entry in the changelog | 02:08 |
xerxas | so I must subscribe pgregory ? | 02:08 |
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xerxas | I can't find him | 02:09 |
Yagisan | just subscribe motu to the bug. | 02:12 |
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xerxas | Yagisan: ok | 02:31 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 03:02 |
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phanatic | hi people | 03:28 |
bddebian | Hello phanatic | 03:29 |
phanatic | hey bddebian | 03:29 |
Fade | well, here's something I haven't seen before.. I have a custom kernel package installed, and dapper wants to override it with linux-image-amd64-generic on an upgrade. | 03:31 |
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Se7h | mornin | 05:13 |
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bddebian | Hello Se7h | 05:16 |
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Se7h | alo bddebian | 05:27 |
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Se7h | hi LaserJock | 05:43 |
LaserJock | hi Se7h | 05:44 |
Se7h | ok | 05:48 |
Se7h | lets resume what was paused | 05:49 |
Se7h | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 05:49 |
Se7h | /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 05:49 |
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LaserJock | Se7h: I've got to go right now, but I'll be back in < 1 hr. OK? | 05:59 |
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Se7h | wb LaserJock | 07:17 |
LaserJock | hi Se7h | 07:18 |
Se7h | can u help me now? | 07:19 |
LaserJock | Se7h: sure | 07:24 |
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Se7h | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 07:25 |
Se7h | /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 07:25 |
jamessan | Se7h: do you have a /usr/bin/make? | 07:28 |
LaserJock | Se7h: hmm, and why are you trying to run that? | 07:29 |
Se7h | to create the source | 07:29 |
Se7h | jamessan sure | 07:29 |
LaserJock | Se7h: so are you running debuild -S ? | 07:29 |
Se7h | ye | 07:30 |
LaserJock | Se7h: ok, so can you paste the entire output to a pastebin | 07:31 |
Se7h | its not that long | 07:31 |
Se7h | but wait | 07:31 |
Se7h | :| | 07:32 |
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Se7h | gimme the url please | 07:32 |
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LaserJock | pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org | 07:33 |
Se7h | ty | 07:34 |
Se7h | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10409 | 07:36 |
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jamessan | Se7h: what does "ls -l /usr/bin/make" say? | 07:40 |
Se7h | permissions? | 07:40 |
Se7h | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139920 2005-12-17 03:01 /usr/bin/make | 07:41 |
LaserJock | Se7h: who is the owner for the source | 07:41 |
Se7h | me | 07:42 |
Se7h | lol | 07:42 |
LaserJock | hmm | 07:42 |
LaserJock | Se7h: and you have fakeroot installed? | 07:50 |
Se7h | yes | 07:51 |
LaserJock | Se7h: so you have modified an existing source packages? | 07:53 |
natroll- | sounds like he can't use make for some reason....that's strange | 07:53 |
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Se7h | LaserJock ham, not really | 07:55 |
Se7h | im just creating the deb binary | 07:55 |
Se7h | but since i have to upload it with source.. | 07:56 |
LaserJock | Se7h: ok, so what exactly are you doing? what package and where are you getting it from? | 07:57 |
Se7h | spe-0.8.2.a | 07:58 |
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Tonio__ | evening ;) | 07:58 |
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natroll- | hi Tonio__ | 08:00 |
LaserJock | Se7h: ok, I just did a "apt-get source spe" then "cd spe-0.8.2a" then "debuild -S" and it worked fine | 08:01 |
Se7h | o.0 | 08:02 |
Se7h | one second | 08:02 |
Se7h | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 08:04 |
Se7h | /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied | 08:04 |
Se7h | same thing | 08:04 |
LaserJock | Se7h: did you do exactly what I did? | 08:04 |
Se7h | yup | 08:04 |
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LaserJock | Se7h: ok, then something is screwed up with your system :( | 08:05 |
Se7h | i got that already :p | 08:06 |
Se7h | dunno what tho | 08:06 |
natroll- | who owns your debian/rules? | 08:08 |
Se7h | my user | 08:08 |
natroll- | fakeroot? | 08:09 |
Se7h | hum? | 08:10 |
natroll- | who owns that? | 08:10 |
natroll- | and what permissions | 08:10 |
natroll- | well, nvm | 08:10 |
natroll- | i dunno either, srry | 08:11 |
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bmonty | hey LaserJock | 08:17 |
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LaserJock | hi bmonty | 08:19 |
bmonty | how is the bug day going? | 08:19 |
LaserJock | I'm not sure. I've had to do some real work today | 08:19 |
LaserJock | I do have a list of MOTU Science packages with bugs for people to work on ;-) | 08:20 |
LaserJock | I do the organizing and then crack the whip ;-) | 08:20 |
bmonty | Is someone doing bug triage, or is it a free-for-all? | 08:21 |
bmonty | LaserJock: heh, just tell people you are going to point one of your nifty lasers at their house | 08:21 |
LaserJock | bmonty: basically hang out in #ubuntu-bugs and just get to work | 08:21 |
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LaserJock | bmonty: hmm, I could do that I suppose. It would be an empty threat (curvature of the earth and all). | 08:23 |
LaserJock | bmonty: course if I could use one of the retroreflectors on the moon I just might make it ... | 08:24 |
natroll- | LaserJock, tell them you have satellites armed and ready | 08:24 |
LaserJock | or sharks ;-) | 08:24 |
LaserJock | maybe even some sea bass | 08:25 |
natroll- | lol | 08:25 |
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phanatic | hi people | 08:38 |
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phanatic | hey Erlang :) | 08:39 |
phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga and raphink :) | 08:39 |
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raphink | hi phanatic | 08:41 |
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Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic | 08:48 |
dholbach | night guys | 08:56 |
netzmeister | n8 dholbach | 08:57 |
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LaserJock | hi raphink phanatic Gloubiboulga , et. al. | 09:02 |
raphink | hi LaserJock | 09:02 |
Gloubiboulga | hey LaserJock | 09:02 |
Gloubiboulga | salut raphink ;) | 09:02 |
LaserJock | raphink: how's k3b going? | 09:02 |
raphink | fiexed LaserJock | 09:03 |
raphink | wanna test? | 09:03 |
raphink | salut Gloubiboulga | 09:03 |
raphink | LaserJock: k3bsetup should work fine now | 09:03 |
raphink | can shlibs be used for python stuff? | 09:09 |
phanatic | heya LaserJock | 09:09 |
LaserJock | raphink: not exactly sure, might check Debian Policy and Debian Python Policy ;-) | 09:10 |
raphink | well LaserJock the problem is the following | 09:10 |
raphink | kde-guidance had pykdeextensions as build-depends | 09:10 |
raphink | but the binary doesn't have pykdeextensions as depends | 09:10 |
raphink | I think it should come automatically | 09:10 |
raphink | but I'm not sure whethere how | 09:11 |
raphink | if it's shlibs or python deps | 09:11 |
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raphink | or if this depends has to be added manually | 09:11 |
LaserJock | raphink: you could experiment and see | 09:12 |
raphink | hehe sure | 09:12 |
raphink | actually I'm not sure this is needed as build-depends | 09:12 |
raphink | ... | 09:12 |
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palong | hi | 09:27 |
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bmonty | hey minghua | 09:29 |
minghua | hi bmonty | 09:29 |
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LaserJock | hi minghua | 09:31 |
LaserJock | raphink: would you feel ok doing a real easy main upload for iptables? | 09:37 |
raphink | LaserJock: bugfixing? | 09:38 |
LaserJock | yeah | 09:38 |
LaserJock | just a stupid little doc bug | 09:38 |
raphink | ok | 09:38 |
raphink | send me the debdiff by email | 09:39 |
LaserJock | k | 09:39 |
LaserJock | @ubuntu.com ? | 09:39 |
raphink | yep | 09:39 |
bmonty | minghua: you have time to work on scim issues today? | 09:39 |
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minghua | hello LaserJock | 09:45 |
minghua | bmonty: not now. but yes I do plan to work on scim tonight | 09:45 |
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mcquaid | hello, not sure i can get help here, but i've postd on the forums and searched to no end | 09:54 |
mcquaid | it's regarding getting dri for opengl on a voodoo3 card | 09:54 |
mcquaid | my gf4 just blew so i had to put this back in | 09:54 |
mcquaid | i remember way back when, voodoo cards were pretty easy to get working | 09:54 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: did you try #ubuntu ? | 09:54 |
mcquaid | yes i've tried there several times over the last few days with no response | 09:55 |
mcquaid | i guess there aren't many voodoo users these days | 09:55 |
mcquaid | i've believe i've determined it's a userspace issue as the xorg logs say dri is enabled but glxinfo says it's not | 09:56 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: have you tried searching Malone for a similar issue? | 09:56 |
mcquaid | no i'm not familar with malone | 09:58 |
mcquaid | i came here because i believe it's a package issue | 09:59 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: check out https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ | 09:59 |
natroll- | i pity the fool who messes with malone | 09:59 |
LaserJock | natroll-: ? | 09:59 |
natroll-mr-T | LaserJock, nvm :) | 09:59 |
mcquaid | from what i've read the error i get is a result of dri and my libgl not being in sync | 10:00 |
mcquaid | and there are forum posts of others not being able to get voodoos to work with dri but no solution | 10:01 |
mcquaid | so i think it's not user configuration error but that voodoo dri is broken in breezy | 10:01 |
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mcquaid | LaserJock, what am i supposed to be looking up at that site? | 10:03 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: sorry, my bad. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs has all the Ubuntu bugs | 10:04 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: you can search there for you problem and see if it is a known bug | 10:04 |
mcquaid | ok just serached there, i see one tdfx bug but the error is not what i get and it's been fixed | 10:05 |
mcquaid | i guess i'll submit a bug, but i'd hope i could resolve this instead of waiting awhile for a bug resolution | 10:06 |
mcquaid | according to this site: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting | 10:07 |
mcquaid | the error i get is because 'then your libGL is out of sync with your DRI drivers' | 10:08 |
mcquaid | is there a way i can bring them in sync? like can i just compile the relevant parts of xorg? | 10:08 |
kelmo | do you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed? | 10:09 |
kelmo | (not sure if ubuntu is in sync with debian in this regard) | 10:09 |
kelmo | and load GLCore in ya x conf | 10:09 |
mcquaid | yes i have that installed | 10:10 |
mcquaid | yes glcore in conf | 10:10 |
mcquaid | xorg log files says everything is fine with dri enabled | 10:10 |
kelmo | what kernel version? | 10:11 |
mcquaid | all the relevant modules are running. tdfx, drm | 10:11 |
mcquaid | 2.6.12 | 10:11 |
kelmo | hmm | 10:11 |
mcquaid | running glxinfo with verbose i see this error: | 10:12 |
kelmo | the drm in that version may not be "in sync" with mesa | 10:12 |
kelmo | not sure | 10:12 |
mcquaid | thats what i've read is the issue | 10:12 |
mcquaid | is there a way to tell? | 10:12 |
mcquaid | so this could be resolved if i update to dapper for the new kernel? | 10:14 |
mcquaid | and i think the packages aren't set up correctly because initially i get this error when running glxinfo: | 10:18 |
mcquaid | /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) | 10:18 |
mcquaid | and the dri directory isn't even there | 10:18 |
mcquaid | the tdfx_dri.so is located under /usr/lib/dri | 10:19 |
mcquaid | so i tried making a sym link of dri and then i get this error: | 10:19 |
mcquaid | libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_add_dispatch) | 10:19 |
mcquaid | and that error is what i've read on the dri troubleshooting guide meaning there aren't in sync | 10:20 |
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mcquaid | hmm i have a copy of libGL.so.1.2 thats seems to be not associated with any package. no result is returned when running dpkg -S libGL.so.1.2 in /usr/X11R6/lib | 10:29 |
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mcquaid | i have previously installed the nvidia binary so I'm not sure if that got left behind. but i used it's uninstaller | 10:29 |
mcquaid | ahh i'll just submit a bug | 10:32 |
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natroll-mr-T | j/k ;-) | 10:34 |
LaserJock | I might have a spare 5200 sitting around but I don't think that will do you any good | 10:35 |
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mcquaid | i think a spare 5200 would do me nicely ;) | 11:02 |
LaserJock | mcquaid: doubtful, I hardly play any games and it still suck | 11:03 |
kelmo | mcquaid: you said you uninstalled nvidia via its script right? | 11:04 |
mcquaid | well from what i remember a 5200 is roughly on par with a gf4ti4200 no? | 11:04 |
mcquaid | yes | 11:04 |
mcquaid | via the script | 11:04 |
kelmo | that represents a large problem in itself | 11:04 |
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mcquaid | kelmo, how so? | 11:05 |
kelmo | you took control of those files that you mucked around with out of dpkg, and into your own hands | 11:06 |
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mcquaid | i hear ya | 11:07 |
mcquaid | any way to fix that? | 11:07 |
kelmo | you would need to --reinstall install some core xorg packages | 11:07 |
kelmo | even then, its never absolutely certain ; ) | 11:08 |
mcquaid | and that's if this is the source of my troubles, a few others on the forums seem to have similar troubles to mine | 11:09 |
mcquaid | and i don't think they all came from a previous nvidia install | 11:09 |
kelmo | its not main source, but you definately have some unneccessary obstacles | 11:09 |
mcquaid | hmm, any suggestions on how to proceed? | 11:11 |
kelmo | well, i have used dri only in conjunction with drm fron linux 2.6.15 and above | 11:13 |
mcquaid | so are you saying a more recent kernel might help? | 11:13 |
kelmo | i am saying; that is the scope of my experience ; ) | 11:14 |
mcquaid | ah | 11:14 |
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mcquaid | i guess i don't get how it all ties in. in the kernel there's the tdfx drm, then there's xorg tdfx (which i assume is the driver) then there's libglide3 which i think xorg uses via mesagl?? | 11:18 |
mcquaid | i've been googling this for 3 days now and haven't got any further | 11:18 |
mcquaid | well the first weird problem is glxinfo states libGL is looking for tdfx_dri.so in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri | 11:29 |
mcquaid | and dri doesn't even exist | 11:29 |
mcquaid | i symlinked it to where dri exists for me. /usr/lib/dri | 11:30 |
mcquaid | but resulted in another error which i've read means libGL is out of sync with the dri drivers | 11:31 |
mcquaid | and i know i shoulnd't have to be symlinking this stuff, but couldn't see what else to try | 11:31 |
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