=== selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] hmm, anybody watching the DPL debate? [12:07] DPL? [12:08] the debian leader, can't remember what P stands for [12:08] Debian Project Leader [12:10] so they're like electing a leader or something? [12:10] yeah [12:11] I was wondering if Ubuntu might come up === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moquist [n=moquist@pool-70-20-59-246.man.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-67-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp_ [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] Riddell: I would like to know what is your take on bug 34983: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bug/34983. I don't really know where to look. === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] hello MOTU's === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] is there a tool, where i can simple manage the runlevel options? [01:37] netzmeister: sysv-rc-conf - will that work? === dolsonap is now known as dolson === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] dolson: i try.. [01:43] dolson: perfect.. thx [01:43] netzmeister: no prob :) === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ilmari [i=ilmari@ritchie.ping.uio.no] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] Heya gang [02:08] hi bddebian :) [02:09] Heya slomo [02:12] hello [02:13] hi ajmitch === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] hah, people filing automatix-related bugs in malone [02:25] Heya ajmitch [02:28] ajmitch: automatix was on /. , osnews, etc today :/ [02:28] I know :( [02:30] people who think it's the greatest gift to ubuntu === mat|l [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] ajmitch: what do they report the automatix bugs against? [03:05] sorry, I guess I had a typo when I left for dinner ;-) === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] Heya bmonty [03:08] hi bddebian === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] bmonty: oh I didn't realize we were talking on -devel. anyway, I don't have time to look at this m17n bug right now, but I'll definitely look at it later (and maybe ask upstream) [03:17] minghua: I think we are definately going to have to ask upstream since the current packages are supposed to work together [03:18] minghua: oops, looks like we are slightly behind the debian version [03:18] bmonty: just for the record, this libm17n 1.2 + m17n-db 1.3 combination seems to break the scim-m17n in debian as well [03:19] minghua: ok, do you have a good idea where the versions are of the packages between ubuntu and debian? [03:19] maybe we should do a set of sync/UVF exceptions to get the latest versions into dapper [03:19] while we work the issue with m17n-db [03:19] bmonty: looking at that right now. sid has: m17n-db 1.3.1-1, libm17n0 1.2.0-5.1 [03:21] in dapper we have: m17n-db 1.3.1-1build1, libm17n0 1.2.0-5 === minghua goes read the m17n-lib 1.2.0-5.1 NMU changelog === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hmm, debian #325528 seems interesting [03:23] debian bug 325528 in libm17n-0 "segfaults with mgp, rendering it unusuable" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/325528 [03:25] ubuntu #34983 === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] this is odd, since the new version of m17n-db only changed some packaging stuff and add a patch for tamil [03:25] malone #34983 [03:25] malone bug 34983 in arts "arts cannot work with esd" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34983 [03:25] ah, so that's how it work. [03:27] bmonty: maybe not related, as scim-m17n seems to be broken on sid as well. === minghua is busy now, have to look at this later [03:27] minghua: ok, one more question....does the bug in malone only occur with the Amharic db or all dbs? [03:28] bmonty: as I've said in the bug report, scim-m17n doesn't start for me at all [03:28] so I can't even reach the "crash" step === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.82.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d64-180-114-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] excellent, almost got my dapper box up to date again so I can build stuff :) [04:23] Yeah sure ;-P [04:23] I had 64bit dapper running at work but it was just too unstable for me so I reinstalled 32bit breezy :( [04:23] * Initial release Closes: #nnnn (nnnn is the bug number of your ITP) [04:23] ITP stands for ? [04:24] Intend to Package or some such [04:24] whats that? [04:24] o0 [04:25] Illustriously trmendous package [04:25] Bug Day tomorrow correct? [04:25] goodnight cruel world [04:27] illconceived tyranical pellets [04:27] lolol [04:28] Se7h: ITP is a debian term meaning that someone is planning to package that software [04:29] thats what im doing [04:29] packaging software [04:30] so should i replace it with '0001' ? [04:30] lol [04:30] no [04:30] do you plan to maintain it in debian? [04:31] bah [04:31] sure if its worth it [04:31] Se7h: then file an ITP :) [04:31] file an ITP ? [04:32] yes, the debian documentation you're probably reading says how [04:32] actualy im reading the file created by dh_make [04:32] ah [04:34] so i'm a little blind on this ITP thing [04:42] Se7h: ITP info can be found at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ and http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] ok, slightly offtopic. When compiling, it is complaining of not being able to find libtool.m4 when I have libtool installed [05:03] Burgundavia: you broke something? [05:03] ls /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 [05:04] it is there [05:04] great [05:04] is the path wrong to find them? [05:04] shouldn't be [05:04] what's doing the complaining? [05:04] autogen.sh [05:05] more context needed [05:05] I am compiling evo-conversation and gimmie === Erlang [i=neumann@toronto-HSE-ppp4000837.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] hi tritium [05:57] hi tritium, LaserJock [05:57] hi LaserJock. Oh, by the way, I can't reproduce that texdoctk bug any more. [05:57] Hi ajmitch. [05:57] hi ajmitch [05:57] But I am finding a repeatable bug in tor. (/var/run/tor disappears with every reboot) [05:57] tritium: well I suppose that is a good thing [05:58] hmm, well that isn't :( [05:58] goodnight Ubunteros [05:58] good night, Kyral [05:59] cya Kyral [06:00] LaserJock: yeah [06:00] tritium: tor's initscript will need fixed then - it's a result of /var/run being a tmpfs now [06:01] lprng has the same problem. [06:02] Is that a major bug that the daemon won't start for that reason? [06:03] hi LaserJock === SEJeff [n=alicia@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] tkx for the urls [06:04] ajmitch: hmm, I noticed that. I'll see if my meager skills are enough to fix it. Perhaps I'll check the changes made to lprng. [06:04] thanks for the tip, Erlang, ajmitch [06:04] I've added mkdir -p /var/run/lprng, somewhere, in the startup script. [06:07] Gnight folks [06:07] good night, bddebian :) [06:07] cya bddebian [06:07] Erlang: is that the proper thing to do? (not doubting, just asking) [06:08] tritium: It Works (tm) ;) [06:08] heh === ajmitch is doing a good burn-in test - running about 25000 messages through spam filters :) [06:08] I have no idea if that's the Proper Thing to do. Sorry. [06:08] no worries === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] after the version name [06:15] what does XUbuntuX stands for? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [06:16] Xfce Ubuntu [06:16] o.0 [06:16] oh and there is a projet for Ebuntu too. [06:17] is that directed to me? cus i dont see any relation [06:18] It is directed to whoever reads it... [06:18] Erlang: no relation at all to the question sorry :) [06:18] o [06:18] Se7h: that is how we version when we make changes === Erlang hides. [06:19] I see now. [06:19] eg 1.2.3-4ubuntu5 [06:19] 5th ubuntu change to the 4th debian revision of 1.2.3 :) [06:19] Se7h: 0ubuntuX is used for programs that aren't in Debian [06:20] so 0ubuntu = not in debian [06:21] and the second digit ? [06:21] oh ajmitch, sorry [06:21] im blind [06:21] lol [06:22] I did not follow this convention for kpl which sleeps in REVU. Fixing that. [06:24] ajmitch: if I fix it, will you help me remember how to upload it? :) [06:25] Se7h: each time we need a new revision we bump that number [06:28] ye :) [06:28] i get it now [06:28] theres no ITP for the release im patching [06:29] so no 'Close: #nnnn' for me right? [06:29] :p === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] tritium: sure :) [06:30] thanks! [06:31] looks like the mail will be getting spam-checked for another few hours yet === ajmitch is on *way* too many mailing lists [06:32] Se7h: unless there is a bug you are fixing with that release [06:38] ajmitch: hehe, how many? [06:38] LaserJock no, just an updated version of it [06:39] Hobbsee: I don't know :) [06:39] eek [06:39] that's definetly too many then! [06:40] Hobbsee: let's just say that I got 25K messages in about 3-4 weeks [06:40] sheesh! [06:40] so far I've processed the first 3 days of them through spamassassin [06:41] hehe === Lathiat laughs [06:41] even on your dual beast [06:41] ? [06:41] Lathiat: I/O limited [06:41] ajmitch: ctrl + a, delete key [06:41] running on the old drives still [06:41] ajmitch: haha [06:42] should be on to the raid0/5? ;p === ajmitch hasn't set that up yet [06:42] I've got the drives in [06:42] and the system is still nice & quiet === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] mines pretty quiet [06:43] i dont notice it [06:43] and it has 3 120mm fans in the front [06:43] i guess 120s are quiet [06:44] yeah [06:44] well that said [06:44] you can get 200CFM 120s now [06:44] we just got some 100CFMs they push alot of air, i'd love to see a 200 [06:46] probably starting to get a bit noisy :) [06:46] sadly I've just got 80mm fans in here [06:46] and I haven't hooked most of them up === dolson is now known as dolzzzon === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] ok [07:31] finaly [07:31] package ready for upstream [07:32] Se7h: gonna upload it to REVU? [07:33] ye [07:33] i just need to remember how [07:33] Se7h: dput revu *.changes [07:34] Hobbsee: that might pickup the binary build also [07:34] would it? [07:34] doesnt when i do it... [07:37] Hobbsee: it would if there was a .changes file for the binary from pbuilder or something [07:37] ah ok === godiane [n=godiane@58.69.69.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] omg [07:52] almost 7am === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb219-75-72-99.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] hmm, I uploaded a fix, but Seveas had his own fix posted on the bug report. I wonder why he didn't upload it... === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] because he's not a motu? [08:11] that would be a valid reason ;) [08:11] I thought he was now. [08:11] if he had a fix he should have assigned it to motu-reviewers === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] $ /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied [08:12] :| [08:12] Se7h: and is debian/rules executable? [08:13] yes === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] darn, I should have used $TORPIDDIR instead of /var/run/tor === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1116.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] ajmitch any idea? === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] hi dholbach [08:22] tritium: hey Michael! [08:22] I noticed your upload! :-) === dholbach high-fives tritium [08:22] heh, thanks :) it has been a while, huh? [08:23] a tiny bit :) [08:23] Se7h: so debian/rules is 0755, /usr/bin/make & /usr/bin/fakeroot exist, and the filesystem isn't mounted noexec? [08:24] dholbach: it's always great to see MOTUs getting back into action :) [08:24] ajmitch: yeah... there are a lot, I'm waiting for :) [08:25] like me :) [08:25] and somebody *COULD* write up the motu report ;) [08:25] ajmitch wass a big help, like always [08:25] that'd be great [08:25] s/wass/was [08:25] tritium: I seem to do more helping than hacking these days [08:26] ajmitch: it's a valuable contribution, all the same [08:28] [07:23:05] Se7h: so debian/rules is 0755, /usr/bin/make & /usr/bin/fakeroot exist, and the filesystem isn't mounted noexec? <- thats right [08:29] Se7h: how are you trying to build it? dpkg-buildpackage? [08:29] yup [08:30] fakeroot debian/rules clean [08:30] /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied [08:30] from what I've seen it's usually permissions or noexec.. [08:33] wierd [08:33] rather [08:34] well [08:35] i'll keep it for later today [08:35] 7.35am here [08:35] ok [08:35] :) [08:35] and i need some sleep, ciao [08:35] bye [08:37] Is it worth another upload, simply to change /var/run/tor to $TORPIDDIR in 2 instances? === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-092-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] looks like it didn't build on ia64, but that has happened before [08:45] morning all [08:45] morning, sivang [08:49] hey tritium , how's it going? [08:49] not bad, yourself? [08:56] hmm, I uploaded a fix, but Seveas had his own fix posted on the bug report. I wonder why he didn't upload it... <-- don't know what this is about but I'm no dev/motu so can't upload [08:57] Seveas: yeah, sorry, I found out after the fact. I also didn't see your fix until I had done my own. [08:58] Seveas: what have you fixed this time? :) , btw, pong again [08:59] sivang, /msg ubugtu schedule some_official_timeaone_name [08:59] Mine's a bit different, but gets the job done. Although I'm already wanting a tiny change. [09:00] Seveas: doesn't know about IST/IDT [09:00] Seveas: in future, if you have patches you want someone to upload, assign the bug to motureviewers. If this isn't documented on the wiki somewhere, it should be :) [09:01] sivang, try 'Israel' === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] Seveas: k [09:01] sivang: same with NZDT/NZST [09:01] oops [09:02] I dyslexitivy msg'd you thinking you are the bot :p [09:02] haha === sivang msgs Ubugtu [09:03] it recognizes everything in the Olson tz database [09:03] cooool! [09:03] works like butter [09:03] howeer, you may want to make it case insensitive [09:03] didn't work for first time when I msg'd it israel. [09:03] ghe, point [09:04] and I capitilize names only when talking to humanes, writing on the wiki, or naming classes [09:04] ;-) [09:13] dholbach: the ia64 build failed (which it appears to have done in the past). Anything I should do? [09:13] appears to be a ghostscript problem [09:14] tritium: do you have the buildlog somewhere? [09:14] dholbach: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1771033/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-ia64.tor_0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:15] others look fine (waiting for hppa, however) [09:15] hrm [09:16] does ia64 have the same gs version as the other have? [09:16] not sure === tritium is a launchpad novice === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@tor/session/x-ed3bde653271c3b0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] hi all === selinium_ [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] Who is the Motu for tor? :) [09:24] floe (ia64) I doesn't like building tor [09:24] MrFaber: I uploaded a fix tonight, why? [09:24] thx [09:24] sure, did you get it already? [09:24] it doesn't start and tells me that there is /var/run/tor missing [09:25] no, I don't think that I got it already [09:25] MrFaber: that's what I fixed [09:25] but I am updateing right now [09:25] thx [09:25] Only missing is loop-aes ;) === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] It may take some time, MrFaber [09:26] yes, I see no tor package in update [09:26] it just built recently, so give it some time [09:27] many thanks [09:27] sure :) === tritium goes to bed [09:36] good night tritium [09:36] good night, dholbach :) [09:37] tritium: it's the HUG DAY today - I can't just go to sleep [09:37] ok guys... let's all move over to #ubuntu-bugs and get some Universe bugs sorted! [09:37] It is? === tritium hugs dholbach [09:37] yeah === dholbach hugs tritium [09:43] hi Hobbsee! [09:44] hey ajmitch! === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] hi siretart === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee [09:47] argh! === Mithrandir tickles StevenK === Hobbsee is jumped on === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1116.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] hehe go Mithrandir! === Hobbsee also tickles StevenK, and forces him off her [09:48] Argh === StevenK tickles Hobbsee back, and ignores Mithrandir === Mithrandir throws some snow down SK's neck. [09:48] :) === Hobbsee runs and hides from the nasty, hobbsee-tickling people === Hobbsee then hides behind dholbach [09:49] Mithrandir: Meh === dholbach get snow from in front of the door and throws snowballs at StevenK and Mithrandir [09:49] Mithrandir: My wife takes great delight in putting ice cubes down my neck and back [09:49] StevenK: and you can't fight back since you're in the middle of summer so you're at ESNOW. [09:50] StevenK: uh, why? :-) [09:50] She just does [09:55] weird. === herzi [n=herzi@c182048.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-152-1-41-80.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@33.Red-81-36-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] hi here === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=alicia@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-209-160.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=carlos@ubuntu/member/segfault] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] G'day all === Yagisan had a shit day today. :( === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan was on the train today, when some drunken racist woman started abusing his wife, and tried to hit his 2 year old daughter :( === Yagisan had to restrain the woman so my wife could get off the train safely [01:38] :( === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] Yagisan: eek! [01:43] Hobbsee: oh yes eek. That is the condensed version [01:43] i'm not sure i want to know the full version! === Hobbsee needs sleep anyway [01:44] night all... [01:44] night Hobbsee [01:44] before i pass out :P === viyyer [n=viv@59.176.103.149] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sarca [n=viv@59.176.103.149] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sarca is now known as viyyer [01:58] Hi everyone [01:58] it's bug day , so I'm looking at bugs, and I see a bug on package aqsis [01:58] I see that: [01:58] root@panther:/home/xerxas# LANG=C apt-cache show aqsis |grep Maintainer [01:58] Maintainer: Will Newton [01:59] but I can't subscribe that guy to the bug [01:59] what shall I do ? [01:59] it's the Debian maintainer, why do you want to subcribe him? [02:00] azeem: because I don't understand the process :) [02:00] this package have been taken directly from debian ? [02:01] no, it got modified by Ubuntu [02:01] see the version [02:01] check its changelog to see who worked on it last time [02:01] So who is the ubuntu responsible for it ? [02:01] ok [02:01] MOTU? [02:02] I just added a comment: there is missing the aqsis-lib package [02:05] but there's a package named aqsis-libc2a [02:05] azeem: what should I do ? [02:07] I don't know about the proper procedure either, I just think you shouldn't bother the Debian guy unless you're sure he's intersted [02:07] ok [02:08] maybe this one still needs transitioning for the last C++ update? [02:08] he doesn't seem to be === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] 2005-08-14 23:04 pgregory [02:08] * render/: kdtree.h, points.cpp, points.h: Fix problem with [02:08] RiPoints primitives, introduced during refactor of the KDTree [02:08] implementation for the new sampling code. As the KDTree didn't [02:08] end up getting used in the new sampling code, I reverted to the [02:08] old implementation. [02:08] oops [02:08] sorry for flooding [02:08] this is the last entry in the changelog [02:08] so I must subscribe pgregory ? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] I can't find him [02:12] just subscribe motu to the bug. === sarca [n=viv@59.176.103.149] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sarca is now known as viyyer === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Yagisan: ok === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-214-128-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lsald [n=james@ppp-69-223-170-13.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-212.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] Heya gang === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-214-128-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] hi people [03:29] Hello phanatic [03:29] hey bddebian [03:31] well, here's something I haven't seen before.. I have a custom kernel package installed, and dapper wants to override it with linux-image-amd64-generic on an upgrade. === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [n=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium_ [n=rimbert@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-70-76.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] mornin === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolzzzon is now known as dolson [05:16] Hello Se7h === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] alo bddebian === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-94.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] hi LaserJock [05:44] hi Se7h [05:48] ok [05:49] lets resume what was paused [05:49] fakeroot debian/rules clean [05:49] /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d093024.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] Se7h: I've got to go right now, but I'll be back in < 1 hr. OK? === Spec_ [n=spec@dsl092-151-006.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=DragonCo@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raver [n=1@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === godiane [n=godiane@58.69.69.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sovvy2009 [n=sovvy200@82-37-32-193.cable.ubr01.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] wb LaserJock [07:18] hi Se7h [07:19] can u help me now? [07:24] Se7h: sure === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] fakeroot debian/rules clean [07:25] /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied [07:28] Se7h: do you have a /usr/bin/make? [07:29] Se7h: hmm, and why are you trying to run that? [07:29] to create the source [07:29] jamessan sure [07:29] Se7h: so are you running debuild -S ? [07:30] ye [07:31] Se7h: ok, so can you paste the entire output to a pastebin [07:31] its not that long [07:31] but wait [07:32] :| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] gimme the url please === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org [07:34] ty [07:36] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10409 === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] Se7h: what does "ls -l /usr/bin/make" say? [07:40] permissions? [07:41] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139920 2005-12-17 03:01 /usr/bin/make [07:41] Se7h: who is the owner for the source [07:42] me [07:42] lol [07:42] hmm [07:50] Se7h: and you have fakeroot installed? [07:51] yes [07:53] Se7h: so you have modified an existing source packages? [07:53] sounds like he can't use make for some reason....that's strange === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] LaserJock ham, not really [07:55] im just creating the deb binary [07:56] but since i have to upload it with source.. [07:57] Se7h: ok, so what exactly are you doing? what package and where are you getting it from? [07:58] spe-0.8.2.a === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] evening ;) === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@197.71.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] hi Tonio__ [08:01] Se7h: ok, I just did a "apt-get source spe" then "cd spe-0.8.2a" then "debuild -S" and it worked fine [08:02] o.0 [08:02] one second [08:04] fakeroot debian/rules clean [08:04] /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied [08:04] same thing [08:04] Se7h: did you do exactly what I did? [08:04] yup === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] Se7h: ok, then something is screwed up with your system :( [08:06] i got that already :p [08:06] dunno what tho [08:08] who owns your debian/rules? [08:08] my user [08:09] fakeroot? [08:10] hum? [08:10] who owns that? [08:10] and what permissions [08:10] well, nvm [08:11] i dunno either, srry === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] hey LaserJock === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] hi bmonty [08:19] how is the bug day going? [08:19] I'm not sure. I've had to do some real work today [08:20] I do have a list of MOTU Science packages with bugs for people to work on ;-) [08:20] I do the organizing and then crack the whip ;-) [08:21] Is someone doing bug triage, or is it a free-for-all? [08:21] LaserJock: heh, just tell people you are going to point one of your nifty lasers at their house [08:21] bmonty: basically hang out in #ubuntu-bugs and just get to work === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] bmonty: hmm, I could do that I suppose. It would be an empty threat (curvature of the earth and all). [08:24] bmonty: course if I could use one of the retroreflectors on the moon I just might make it ... [08:24] LaserJock, tell them you have satellites armed and ready [08:24] or sharks ;-) [08:25] maybe even some sea bass [08:25] lol === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=Szilvesz@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] hi people === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Erlang wavez [08:39] hey Erlang :) [08:39] hey Gloubiboulga and raphink :) === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] hi phanatic === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] hi phanatic [08:56] night guys [08:57] n8 dholbach === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [09:02] hi raphink phanatic Gloubiboulga , et. al. [09:02] hi LaserJock [09:02] hey LaserJock [09:02] salut raphink ;) [09:02] raphink: how's k3b going? [09:03] fiexed LaserJock [09:03] wanna test? [09:03] salut Gloubiboulga [09:03] LaserJock: k3bsetup should work fine now [09:09] can shlibs be used for python stuff? [09:09] heya LaserJock [09:10] raphink: not exactly sure, might check Debian Policy and Debian Python Policy ;-) [09:10] well LaserJock the problem is the following [09:10] kde-guidance had pykdeextensions as build-depends [09:10] but the binary doesn't have pykdeextensions as depends [09:10] I think it should come automatically [09:11] but I'm not sure whethere how [09:11] if it's shlibs or python deps === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] or if this depends has to be added manually [09:12] raphink: you could experiment and see [09:12] hehe sure [09:12] actually I'm not sure this is needed as build-depends [09:12] ... === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === palong [n=jan@tor/session/x-bb00f6723e73bb3b] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] hi === rikai [n=rikai@pool-64-222-248-49.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] hey minghua [09:29] hi bmonty === herzi [n=herzi@d093024.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] hi minghua [09:37] raphink: would you feel ok doing a real easy main upload for iptables? [09:38] LaserJock: bugfixing? [09:38] yeah [09:38] just a stupid little doc bug [09:38] ok [09:39] send me the debdiff by email [09:39] k [09:39] @ubuntu.com ? [09:39] yep [09:39] minghua: you have time to work on scim issues today? === Lure [n=admin@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] hello LaserJock [09:45] bmonty: not now. but yes I do plan to work on scim tonight === mcquaid [i=mcquaid@toronto-hs-216-138-233-79.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] hello, not sure i can get help here, but i've postd on the forums and searched to no end [09:54] it's regarding getting dri for opengl on a voodoo3 card [09:54] my gf4 just blew so i had to put this back in [09:54] i remember way back when, voodoo cards were pretty easy to get working [09:54] mcquaid: did you try #ubuntu ? [09:55] yes i've tried there several times over the last few days with no response [09:55] i guess there aren't many voodoo users these days [09:56] i've believe i've determined it's a userspace issue as the xorg logs say dri is enabled but glxinfo says it's not [09:56] mcquaid: have you tried searching Malone for a similar issue? [09:58] no i'm not familar with malone [09:59] i came here because i believe it's a package issue [09:59] mcquaid: check out https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ [09:59] i pity the fool who messes with malone [09:59] natroll-: ? [09:59] LaserJock, nvm :) [10:00] from what i've read the error i get is a result of dri and my libgl not being in sync [10:01] and there are forum posts of others not being able to get voodoos to work with dri but no solution [10:01] so i think it's not user configuration error but that voodoo dri is broken in breezy === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] LaserJock, what am i supposed to be looking up at that site? [10:04] mcquaid: sorry, my bad. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs has all the Ubuntu bugs [10:04] mcquaid: you can search there for you problem and see if it is a known bug [10:05] ok just serached there, i see one tdfx bug but the error is not what i get and it's been fixed [10:06] i guess i'll submit a bug, but i'd hope i could resolve this instead of waiting awhile for a bug resolution [10:07] according to this site: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting [10:08] the error i get is because 'then your libGL is out of sync with your DRI drivers' [10:08] is there a way i can bring them in sync? like can i just compile the relevant parts of xorg? [10:09] do you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed? [10:09] (not sure if ubuntu is in sync with debian in this regard) [10:09] and load GLCore in ya x conf [10:10] yes i have that installed [10:10] yes glcore in conf [10:10] xorg log files says everything is fine with dri enabled [10:11] what kernel version? [10:11] all the relevant modules are running. tdfx, drm [10:11] 2.6.12 [10:11] hmm [10:12] running glxinfo with verbose i see this error: [10:12] the drm in that version may not be "in sync" with mesa [10:12] not sure [10:12] thats what i've read is the issue [10:12] is there a way to tell? [10:14] so this could be resolved if i update to dapper for the new kernel? [10:18] and i think the packages aren't set up correctly because initially i get this error when running glxinfo: [10:18] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) [10:18] and the dri directory isn't even there [10:19] the tdfx_dri.so is located under /usr/lib/dri [10:19] so i tried making a sym link of dri and then i get this error: [10:19] libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_add_dispatch) [10:20] and that error is what i've read on the dri troubleshooting guide meaning there aren't in sync === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] hmm i have a copy of libGL.so.1.2 thats seems to be not associated with any package. no result is returned when running dpkg -S libGL.so.1.2 in /usr/X11R6/lib === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F8D01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] i have previously installed the nvidia binary so I'm not sure if that got left behind. but i used it's uninstaller [10:32] ahh i'll just submit a bug === natroll-mr-T solves it by sending you an nvidia 6800 [10:34] j/k ;-) [10:35] I might have a spare 5200 sitting around but I don't think that will do you any good === redguy [n=mati@adf112.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] i think a spare 5200 would do me nicely ;) [11:03] mcquaid: doubtful, I hardly play any games and it still suck [11:04] mcquaid: you said you uninstalled nvidia via its script right? [11:04] well from what i remember a 5200 is roughly on par with a gf4ti4200 no? [11:04] yes [11:04] via the script [11:04] that represents a large problem in itself === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] kelmo, how so? [11:06] you took control of those files that you mucked around with out of dpkg, and into your own hands === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] i hear ya [11:07] any way to fix that? [11:07] you would need to --reinstall install some core xorg packages [11:08] even then, its never absolutely certain ; ) [11:09] and that's if this is the source of my troubles, a few others on the forums seem to have similar troubles to mine [11:09] and i don't think they all came from a previous nvidia install [11:09] its not main source, but you definately have some unneccessary obstacles [11:11] hmm, any suggestions on how to proceed? [11:13] well, i have used dri only in conjunction with drm fron linux 2.6.15 and above [11:13] so are you saying a more recent kernel might help? [11:14] i am saying; that is the scope of my experience ; ) [11:14] ah === daox [n=Callum@S010600c049ee46c3.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] i guess i don't get how it all ties in. in the kernel there's the tdfx drm, then there's xorg tdfx (which i assume is the driver) then there's libglide3 which i think xorg uses via mesagl?? [11:18] i've been googling this for 3 days now and haven't got any further [11:29] well the first weird problem is glxinfo states libGL is looking for tdfx_dri.so in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri [11:29] and dri doesn't even exist [11:30] i symlinked it to where dri exists for me. /usr/lib/dri [11:31] but resulted in another error which i've read means libGL is out of sync with the dri drivers [11:31] and i know i shoulnd't have to be symlinking this stuff, but couldn't see what else to try === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-18.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu []