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thompafluxt: im going to try a live distro first, see what that reports, i dont have windows12:00
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fluxtbjornkri: someone should write an AI adminitrator that quickly gains enough I to take over the world and enslave humanity as virtual machines12:01
NickGarveyralph_: what were the files?12:01
Buckuntuso has anyone tried to build gnome 2.14 from scratch yet?12:01
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sEbaKiLLeRhttp://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt12:01
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NickGarveyand are you sure you are mounting the right partition? with windows on my desktop, hda1 is a 128 MB partition of recovery files, hda2 is the OS12:01
sEbaKiLLeRcan anyone say what language is it please?????http://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt12:01
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sEbaKiLLeRhttp://security.lss.hr/PoC/LSS-2004-10-02.txt12:02
chuckypBuckuntu, i'm using dapper for 2.14  great speed increase12:02
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dragoni`ve small problem with installation ubuntu. Is it possible to install two operation system on the notebook?12:02
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chuckypbjornkri, what do you mean an administrative program?12:03
IdleOne!tell dragon ABOUT DUALBOOT12:03
chuckypdragon, yes12:03
Zarephathanyone tried or use win4lin? I have installed WinXP...it has been a the Windows  splash screen...how long should it take to boot up?12:03
IdleOnesorry about the caps12:03
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: why do you want to know?12:03
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ralph_NickGarvey: drwxr-xr-x  1 root root      7 2005-10-23 23:03 .12:03
ralph_drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 2006-03-11 06:39 ..12:03
ralph_-rw-r--r--  1 root root 163840 2005-10-23 23:03 Desktop DB12:03
ralph_-rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 Desktop DF12:03
ralph_-rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 Finder12:03
ralph_-rw-r--r--  1 root root   1781 2005-10-23 23:03 ReadMe12:03
ralph_-rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2005-10-23 23:03 System12:03
_jasonralph_: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:03
R3linquish3rCan someone tell me how to get Quake 3 running with Teamspeak? I've tried the "echo" commands as lsited in every google search I've made but it jsut doesn't work.....12:04
chuckyp!tell ralph_ about paste12:04
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fluxtR3linquish3r: i should try that myself12:04
R3linquish3rfluxt: you cant use it with TS either?12:04
fluxtR3linquish3r: about 2 years ago i tried and failed12:05
R3linquish3rfluxt: ive been working my a$$ off trying to get it running12:05
fluxtR3linquish3r: just getting sound for quake is hard enough ;)12:05
NickGarveyralph_: sure they are all files and not directories?12:05
R3linquish3rfluxt: well all the google and forums i looked on said to use the echo commands but the dotn work for me12:05
R3linquish3rfluxt: and quake wont use adsp neither will TS12:05
R3linquish3rfluxt: my sound owrked when i got it installed no probs. its just damn TS12:06
fluxtR3linquish3r: yeah ts should really update for ALSA12:06
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ralph_NickGarvey: Well, I cannot do a CD and as you see from the ls they are shown as files...12:06
sEbaKiLLeR_jason: because i want to compile it12:06
fluxtR3linquish3r: i'll just go download TS and give it a try12:06
R3linquish3rfluxt: supposedly it will for RC3 but that was supposed to be out last year :/12:06
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: for educational purposes?12:07
sEbaKiLLeRyes12:07
fluxtR3linquish3r: teamspeak inspires me to write my own open source voice chat thingy12:07
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sEbaKiLLeRim learning some languages12:07
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_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: it's c12:07
sEbaKiLLeRsure?12:07
R3linquish3rfluxt: lol well im nto that skilled :P im oging about 1 nd half months on here12:07
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: what else could it be?12:07
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sEbaKiLLeRbecause i cant compile with gcc12:08
R3linquish3rfluxt: man i suck at typing :P12:08
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_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: well make sure you have the headers12:08
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IdleOnesEbaKiLLeR>  what error you getting?12:08
linuxcrazycan someone give me a repository url for libdvdcss?12:08
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sEbaKiLLeRthanks12:08
_jasonubotu: tell linuxcrazy about dvd12:08
fluxtR3linquish3r: not many people program, that's normal ;) i'm nothing close to normal.. :p12:08
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IdleOne!dvd12:08
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)12:08
sEbaKiLLeRwait a moment12:08
R3linquish3rfluxt: lol12:08
linuxcrazyno no no!12:08
meherenim back...12:08
_jasonlinuxcrazy: yes yes yes! what's the problem :)12:09
lesshaste!drm12:09
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lesshaste12:09
lesshaste:)12:09
R3linquish3rfluxt: if damn Americas Army would release 3.6 I wouldnt need to boot windows anymore :/12:09
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linuxcrazyis it a repository?12:09
meherenthe 686 kernel boots quickly on my dells12:09
mehereni like it12:09
R3linquish3rfluxt: *2.6 my bad12:09
meherenalot quicker then the 386 kernel...12:09
_jasonlinuxcrazy: yes as you will see if you click the link12:09
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fluxtR3linquish3r: their release policy stinks12:09
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Stormx2Uh oh... Slashdot is endorsing Automatrix12:09
R3linquish3rfluxt: yeah i no but its an awesome game12:09
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sEbaKiLLeR_jason: file format not recognized12:09
linuxcrazyok so I just add the repository in the synaptic pkg manager?12:10
dragonwhen i insert cd with ubuntu only win is loading. Mayby anyone can tell me how change BIOS settings? i have ASUS A3H12:10
fluxtR3linquish3r: i havn't played it in years :)12:10
meherenhow can i install xfce apt-get install xubuntu-desktop isn't working for some reason...12:10
R3linquish3rfluxt: have you lso had problems copy/pasting links out of TS? i cant do it at all12:10
slaxor#kernelnewbies12:10
IdleOneStormx2>  slashdot can endorce what they like but I doubt you will get any support for it in here :)12:10
fluxtR3linquish3r: join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can continue in there12:10
CaptainMorganIm still not seeing the changes after applying the ms*whatever font..12:10
CaptainMorganand a bunch of others...12:10
linuxcrazyI f it is a repository then why does it not work whenI add it in the synaptic pkg manager?12:11
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bjornkriDoes everyone else have some of the screensavers greyed out in Gnome? I haven't found any way to install those (easily anyway)..12:11
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linuxcrazyhow do I add the repository?12:11
IdleOnelinuxcrazy> click on the link and it will tell you how to ad the repo12:11
Stormx2!tell linuxcrazy about easysource12:12
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bjornkriIt's like just a handful that brings up a 'not installed' message, and it's annoying me to no end :P12:12
zezuwhat irc clients does everyone use ?12:12
_jasonsEbaKiLLeR: why don't you learn c with a helloworld.c or something.  Notice helloworld.c not helloworld.txt12:12
jadaz87Xchat, gaim12:12
zezui find xchat to be lacking12:12
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kbrookszezu, ubuntu has xchat.12:12
IdleOnezezu>  there are more then one?12:12
NeverDreamxchat ftw12:12
bjornkrizezu: xchat, I'm boring like that12:12
zezuthere are quite a few12:12
HedgeMagezezu: irssi here :)12:12
linuxcrazyI don't see anything on how to add it.12:13
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NeverDreamtelnet :p12:13
h36sawhere do I put modules I want auto-loaded at boot?12:13
WhyvasLThow do you run .pl files?12:13
IdleOnezezu>  lmao I know ...xchat here and mirc with wine12:13
zezuHedgeMage, i've heard a bit about irssi but its quite different than the average bear is it not ?12:13
bjornkrizezu I know some use irssi12:13
stpereh36sa, /etc/modules12:13
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nickrudh36sa: /etc/modules, one module name per line12:13
bjornkriOh there was one :P12:13
yggdrasilis there a way in gnome that i can make my desktop background change every couple of minutes ?12:13
linuxcrazyis this the repository? http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/12:13
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zezuyggdrasil, nice nick12:13
bjornkriyggdrasil: yep! I just found out how myself. Let me dig it up for you12:14
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yggdrasilthank you12:14
bimberiWhyvasLT: perl file.pl ??12:14
yggdrasilthank bjonmrkrik12:14
stpereyggdrasil, is your previous problem solved?12:14
linuxcrazyis this the repos?http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/12:14
yggdrasiltpere um12:14
zielonyWhere can I find some howto of using ncftp ?12:14
bjornkriAnd I'd like to see that nick with two ells at the end, but what do I know :P12:14
yggdrasili dont know let me check12:14
jadaz87does anyone know what version Ubuntu 5.10 is debian wise? is it debian 2.1 or debian 3+12:14
i3dmastersomething just drove me nuts.. I can logon to my remote box via windows ssh client but not from my ubuntu terminal.. anyone knows what might be the problem?12:14
yggdrasilstpere well it doesnt do splash screen12:14
bimberiWhyvasLT: the file command - "file <file>" will tell you what type a file is12:14
sEbaKiLLeR_jason: thanks a lot ive put something in the text that was bad12:14
stpereyggdrasil, but it still crashes?12:14
yggdrasilstpere yea it freaks out strangley too12:15
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HedgeMagezezu: yep.  I honestly didn't think getting used to irssi was worth the hassle at first... then I became staff here and had to manage about 30 chans, /msgs, etc at once!12:15
yggdrasilstpere i go into ctrl alt f1 and then back to f and it keeps the console text up and slwowly changes a wierd white to purlple fade...12:15
yggdrasilwierd12:15
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HedgeMagezezu: now that I'm used to it, I hate using anything else!12:16
yggdrasiland yes it basicly is crashed12:16
NickGarveyI want to set it so a computer is in text mode, but it will allow others to connect to it and forward X11 applications, how would I do this?12:16
zezuHedgeMage, does it use CLI ?12:16
zezuor does it have a GUI ?12:16
S|eepyhey there! wonder if anyone can help pls...I just tried to make the switch from suse 10 to ubuntu - however although the system appeared to install fully - when it asked me to remove the cd media and then reboot to install more packages - i just see a GNU GRUB screen12:16
S|eepynot sure where to go from here :(12:16
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HedgeMagezezu: yep12:16
lesshasteNickGarvey: that's pretty much the default12:16
lesshasteNickGarvey: is it not working?12:16
NickGarveylesshaste: I want it to start in text mode12:17
HedgeMagezezu: CLI12:17
lesshasteNickGarvey: then just get it to start at runlevel 312:17
zezueh i don't know that CLI is a great option for me ;|  might as well use BitchX ;)12:17
NickGarveylesshaste: will starting in runtime 3 block other computers from connecting to the x-server?12:17
lesshasteNickGarvey: no12:17
bjornkriyggdrasil: ah, I can't find the site again I'm afraid, but I have the code here.. what's the url to Pastebin again?12:17
jadaz87does anyone know what version of debian ubuntu 5.10 is based off of?12:17
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NickGarveyoh good thank y,ou12:18
bimberijadaz87: sid (unstable)12:18
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zielonySomeone know hot to use ncftp ?12:18
yggdrasilbjornkri.pastebine.com12:18
yggdrasil;)12:18
jadaz87bimberi what version number is tha? 2.1 or 3+12:18
S|eepyanyone able to help pls? will buy u a beer :p12:19
bjornkrioh, as simple as that hehe12:19
meherenwhen switching from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel will there be applications that might go bad becasue of non-support on 686 kerrnels?12:19
linuxcrazyplease, can someone tell me how to add a repo?12:19
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meherenlinuxcrazy, open synaptic12:19
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HymnToLife!repos12:19
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:19
meherenclick resporsities12:19
yggdrasiluh not pastebine. pastebin12:19
meherenclick add12:19
williamhow do i change file associations?12:19
kingspawnlinuxcrazy: help.ubuntu.com12:19
bimberijadaz87: not sure if sid has a version number, but it's definitely 3+12:19
meherenclick custom12:19
kbrooksjadaz87, sid has no version number.12:19
yggdrasilbjornkri msg me12:20
bimberiubotu tell william about defaultapp12:20
meherenthen type in the name of resporsity...12:20
jadaz87:-\12:20
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NickGarveywait.. "id:3:initdefault:" means it starts in runtime 3 already right?12:20
bimberi!repos12:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:20
linuxcrazyOk I know how to add a repo but i can't get the one you gave me to work12:20
kbrooksjadaz87, sid is a permanently unstable version of debian linux12:20
scott_is gnome 2.14 in dapper drake yet?12:20
kbrooksscott_, #ubuntu+1. ask them. not us.12:21
jadaz87kbrooks because when i want to download aim for linux it has two options for debian 2.1 or 3+12:21
williami have done that, but still when i open it it opens with totem instead of mplayer12:21
williami dont see a setting for like "make default" or anything12:21
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pvd2006anyone here use nexxus security scanner?12:21
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williamwiat nvm.12:21
_zezuhmm12:21
williamthanks bimb12:21
_zezukonversation looks nice12:21
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bimberiwilliam: np :)12:22
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bjornkriyggdrasil: and I found it, the wallpaper changer is here http://divmod.org/users/washort/ranwp.py :)12:24
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meherencya guys i gtg12:25
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_JsmHi all12:25
slshi12:25
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SamineruIs there a keyboard shortcut for, or a way to create a keyboard shortcut, for show desktop?12:25
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kapacehello12:25
_Jsmyes12:25
slsis there a good way to share printers in ubuntu....?12:26
kapaceim running live cd12:26
tarheelubuntu linux is apparently alot more popular than i thought wow12:26
kapacehow do i log in as root12:26
slsthis cups stuff is confusing...12:26
kapacebecause i want to install a rpm12:26
Samineru_Jsm what is it?12:26
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jadaz87does anyone know if ubuntu comes with an IRC server?12:26
sEbaKiLLeRayone now a channel for hack?12:26
bjornkriSamineru: control alt d12:26
slskapace: sudo -s12:26
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Samineruthank you12:26
kapacethxs12:26
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stperekapace, use sudo12:26
arrinmurrtarheel: well, it has been the top distro on distrowatch for some time now ;)12:26
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kapaceyes12:27
bimberikapace: 'sudo -i' in a terminal will get you a root shell12:27
bjornkriSamineru: you can change it by going to System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts12:27
subsonic_shadowcan anyone help me out with a local printer prob?12:27
tarheeli been in redhat so long i havent really used any of the new ones12:27
ZarephathHey I am reading the XGL howto on wiki..and it says apt-get gnome-compiz but it returns a error saying it can't find that package12:27
tarheellinux has really advanced alot12:27
_jasonif I boot with a livecd, how can I check the integrity of a hard drive?  I am getting BSOD on windows boot12:27
yggdrasilbjornkri thanks12:28
bjornkrinp12:28
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_JsmSamineru try ctrl alt d12:28
jadaz87anyone know of a IRC server for ubuntu?12:28
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IdleOnejadaz87>  this is the server12:29
bjornkrianyone know the shortcut for close tab in Epiphany?12:29
brennertarheel: have you tried ubuntu?12:29
ZarephathI think he means to install and run on his Ubuntu box12:29
jadaz87no i mean is there a IRC server bundled with ubuntu12:29
IdleOnejadaz87>  unrealircd works great on my ubuntu12:29
yakkbjornkri, ctrl-w?12:29
jadaz87idleone oh ok how do i get that?12:30
kapacewhat version is latest ubuntu at?12:30
bjornkriThat did it yakk, thanks :)12:30
kbrooksjadaz87, no. ubuntu is for the desktop.12:30
slsjadams, you have to type sudo apt-get install "server that you like"12:30
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IdleOnejadaz87>  gogle unrealircd12:30
kbrookskapace, 5.10 .12:30
IdleOnegoogle*12:30
kapacek12:30
_Jsm:@ if i press the firefox button it says its loading then desapirs im forced to use moz lol12:30
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jadaz87kkbrooks no i mean install irc onto ubuntu12:30
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IdleOnejadaz87>  you will have to compile it then configure it12:31
_Jsmill look in synaptic;)12:31
LRFI can't get totem to load.  says another ap is using the video????  Can't find anything helpful in wiki.  Suggestions????  (I am new to ubuntu and linux).  Thanks.12:31
Zarephathapt-get doesn't find this..and yes I have all the correct repositories in sources.list? compiz-gnome12:31
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kbrooksIdleOne, i doubt it:12:31
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IdleOnekbrooks>  you doubt what?12:32
kbrooks!find unrealircd12:32
jadaz87idleone ok thanks12:32
IdleOnekbrooks>  no it isnt in the repos12:32
EvilDinhay can be rmp files installed on ubuntu?12:32
kbrooksEvilDin, No.12:32
EvilDin:(12:32
brennerZarephath: you running dapper?12:32
jeff_How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?12:32
IdleOneEvilDin>  what you want to install?12:32
EvilDinone good mailserver with webmail support12:33
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GunbladeHow do I get Ubuntu to suppport the Arhive Format .rar and then where is that guide that shows how to get the codecs or whatever for everything like mp3, mpg etc.12:33
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EvilDinfor many users12:33
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'unrealircd' returned no results.12:33
linuxcrazyI have tried and tried to make this http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ add into synaptic and cannot do it. can someone pleeeeeeze help me?12:33
rukuartic!tell Gunblade about restricted12:33
Falstiushi, I have a GeForce 6800 GT and I want to read out the temperature sensors.  nvclock segfaults.  Any other suggestions?12:33
jeff_How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?12:33
kbrooks!tell gunblade about unrar12:34
kbrooks!rar12:34
ubotuwell, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression12:34
LRFGuess no one can help right now.  Thanks anyway.  I have to go.12:34
Gunbladeas always; Thanks ! ^_^12:34
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linuxcrazyplease can someone tell me how to add this http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ into synaptic?12:34
kbrookslinuxboy, too hard?12:34
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kbrooks!tell linuxboy about repos12:35
EvilDinanyone any idea what mailserver should i install12:35
jeff_How do I do ps -aux and have it sort by memory usage?12:35
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linuxcrazyI checked the show disabled software box, I addded the repo, I did everything. can someone please help me?12:36
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_Jsmcan people help me with my firefox problem?12:36
kbrookser12:36
linuxcrazywhat's the prob?12:36
_Jsm:@ if i press the firefox button it says its loading then desapirs im forced to use moz lol12:36
kbrooks!tell linuxcrazy about repos12:36
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brenner_Jsm: run it in terminal and look for errors12:36
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_Jsmbrenner , how ?12:36
MalMenits easy install ati on ubuntu?12:36
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linuxcrazysomeone......help me12:36
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brenner_Jsm: apps>accessories>terminal12:37
durgahow do i convert wmv9 files to mpeg for vcd burn ?12:37
linuxcrazypleeeeaaaase12:37
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_Jsmi know that , i mean the command line to open it12:37
linuxcrazyanyone?12:37
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brennerMalMen: realtively12:37
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MalMenon suse get me that12:37
MalMen/usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx /usr/src/linux12:37
MalMenmake: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15.8-obj/i386/default'12:37
MalMenmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:37
MalMenmake: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15.8-obj/i386/default'12:37
MalMen******************************12:37
MalMenBuild of kernel module failed!12:37
MalMen******************************12:38
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MalMenim go now try ubuntu :X12:38
eccf_Jsm, firefox12:38
brennerlinuxboy: whining is just annoying12:38
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SGershonHi. I just saw a post at the forums about the 'su' pasword on the log file. Shocking.12:38
brennerlinuxcrazy: that was meant for you.  if you're after seveas' packages.  use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:38
IdleOnelinuxcrazy>  read the page it gives you the deb http: to add to your sources.list12:38
ralph_NickGarvey: Sorry, had to restart just now - did you say anything more?12:38
brennerMalMen: use a pastebin next time12:38
MalMenk12:38
MalMensoz12:38
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bjornkri"Ex-Chat".. huhuhu...12:39
brennerMalMen: and we don't care abut suse problems :P12:39
ikarosis the sun java repository usable with dapper too?12:39
IdleOneSGershon>  that was fixed with 4 hours and it was days ago :)12:39
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IdleOneSGershon>  sudo apt-get upgrade will install the fixes12:40
brennerdo the upgrades remove the offending logs?12:40
SGershonIdleOne, Oh, thanks. I guess my system did update itself by himself?12:40
IdleOnebrenner>  I think it does not sure didnt look to see12:40
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titaniumi'm trying to get Synergy to work in Ubuntu. i'm running Ubuntu on my headless machine, which i connect to from my windows machine through ssh. when i try to start synergyc on ubuntu, i get "unable to open screen" since i'm SSHing in. how do i get around this?12:40
IdleOneSGershon>  to make sure in terminal type sudo apt-get upgrade :)12:41
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borregaHOLA12:42
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IdleOne!es12:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:42
NeverDreamhola12:42
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ryoohkiwhat package has the "strings" command?12:42
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jadaz87idleone how do i uninstall unrealircd if i do not want it anymore?12:42
williami have a question, i installed mplayer and its plugins/codecs but for some reason i cant watch video fullscreen or even expand it, it can only play at its original resolution. how can i fix this?12:43
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Oceansbluehi12:43
_Jsmi found something funny ;) sudo -h firefox i can see my problem ;)12:43
IdleOnejadaz87>  all you did was sownload it?12:43
_Jsmhi12:43
MalMenubuntu wotks fine on laptops?12:43
ubuntu_hi gay12:43
IdleOnedownload*12:43
ubuntu_you m....f..............12:43
SGershonMalMen, mostly yes.12:43
IdleOne!ops12:43
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee12:43
brenner!ops12:43
fluxti need some help, i've lost all sound, it was working and now is not. alsa starts fine :/12:43
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OceansblueHow do I restart network interfaces?12:43
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naliothIdleOne: yes?12:43
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jadaz87idleone i mean if i installed (compiled it) and found out i did not want it on there anymore12:44
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bjornkriMalMen Works fine on mine :)12:44
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apokryphosheh12:44
Seveaswoah, the entire police wakes up 12:44
ompaultoo late12:44
elkbuntuheh, how many more are you?12:44
MalMenim want install xgl on ubuntu ^^12:44
IdleOnejadaz87>  if you didnt compile it rm /path/to/unreal should do it :/12:44
occ|quadOceansblue: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:44
jadaz87idleone i mean after i compile it12:44
elkbuntuubotu, tell MalMen about xgl12:44
ompaulMalMen, go to #ubuntu+1 as it does not work on 5.10 you will get help there12:44
Oceansbluethank you12:44
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jadaz87idleone how do i get rid of it12:45
mikebotdoes anyone know the incoming and outgoing servers for hotmail?12:45
IdleOnejadaz87>  same thing should work but Im not certain12:45
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mikebotactually, i only need to incoming server for hotmail12:45
apokryphosp.s. it's often a good idea to stay OP sometimes if you're available so everyone isn't alerted12:45
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bjornkriSeveas, how do you do that  guy? I take it there's a way other than copy paste? :P12:45
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_JsmI fixed firefox i loaded with -profilemanger and re made it12:45
IdleOnebjornkri>  I think he prolly does /kb nickname and it sets the ban mask12:46
mikebotanyone know the incoming server for hotmail?12:46
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dag_ubuntu12:46
bjornkriIdleOne: No no.. no... Not the kicking and banning, that smiley face :P12:46
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IdleOnebjornkri>  lmao12:46
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IdleOnebjornkri>  cvopy it and make an auto change in your xchat settings :P12:47
dag_#quit12:47
bjornkrithanks  ;)12:47
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Samineru12:47
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yggdrasilanyway to get rid of the nasty brown beetween the gdm login and the desktop loading ?12:47
Samineruthat's the apanese charecter tsu12:47
IdleOneSamineru>  yup12:47
bjornkrinami!12:47
FujitsuHaah12:47
bjornkri*cough*12:47
IdleOne!usplash12:48
ubotuI heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto12:48
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brennerit isn't usplash12:48
brennersys>admin>login screen setup12:48
IdleOnebrenner>  oh then what is it ?12:48
IdleOneheh ok12:48
brennergtk+ greeter tab >bg color12:48
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_Jsm one thing does this show in some werid color?12:49
Saminerusomehow the letter between i and k got set as my help shortcut for xchat and I don't know how to change it back, It's not under settings>advanced>keyboard shortcuts12:49
brenneri12:49
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NickGarveyralph_: any luck?12:49
titaniumso anyone have experiences with Synergy and ubuntu?12:49
kbrooksso, everyone.12:49
brennerwhoops.  i'm not a fan of brown either12:49
isodudeHey, I've been searching some but unable to find:12:49
isodudeA way to fool dpkg that the database is in sync ( or w/e now it's complaining about )12:49
isodudeor a way to solve the problem head on.12:49
isodudeMy problem is that debconf says dpkg was interrupted. Running dpkg-reconfigure -a doesn't solve anything. What's there to do more?12:49
kbrookseveryone:12:50
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mumblesim gettinga server offline message12:50
brennertitanium: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto12:50
kbrooksi want to develop something like automatix, but i neeed as much help as i can get.12:50
titaniumbrenner: thanks :)12:50
IdleOnekbrooks>  #ubuntu-offtopic12:51
ralph_NickGarvey:  Not really. I can mount, but I still get only the files, not the directory structure I see under OS X.12:51
NickGarveyralph_: sure all those things are files? tried cding into them?12:51
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isodudeAnd I solved a problem around dapper flight 5 =)12:51
apokryphoskbrooks: you'd be a lot better working on the already-existing alternatives :)12:51
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apokryphoskbrooks: see/join #easyubuntu12:51
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brennertitanium: i should have checked ubotu's triggers earlier.  i was about to tel you to read the man page :P12:51
IdleOnekbrooks>  ubuntu already has synaptic though12:51
isodudebut got trouble with apt-get instead12:51
isodude>,<12:51
NickGarveyalso, when I installed damn small linux, there was a huge file called "knoppix" that was pretty much everything, and thus I was unable to access it with anyhing else12:51
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NickGarveyyou might be in the  same situation12:51
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ralph_NickGarvey: Tried cding. Didn't work.("ls reading file: no directory"). The readme is the only readable file and says: Your harddisk is formatted with Mac OS Extended format...12:54
polpakOMG12:54
GunbladeI am trying to extract .rar files, but the link to "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression" tells me to install unrar-nonfree, but I can only find unrar-free in synaptic12:55
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polpakautomatix got slashdotted?12:55
glm2kyep12:55
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glm2kGunblade: unrar has always been free12:55
_jasonGunblade: you need multiverse12:55
polpak!info unrar12:55
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GunbladeI followed the adding reposotories, and I got multiverse12:56
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Auciis there a way to repair ubuntu Brezy BAd?12:56
La_PaRCaHey, how can I change the extension of all the files in a directory?12:56
_jasonGunblade: a common problem is that multiverse is only enabled for backports, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?12:56
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_jasonLa_PaRCa: do you want regular expression kungfu or bash kungfu?12:57
polpakGunblade, you need to either sudo apt-get install unrar-free OR sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree12:57
La_PaRCabash foo12:57
xcelhey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?12:57
_jasonLa_PaRCa: ok that requires me to test -.-12:57
La_PaRCamjeje12:57
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AuciE: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline. im gewtting this error when all the updates finish downloading and the install process starts.12:58
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xcelhey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?12:58
NickGarveyralph_: perhaps hfsplus is what on eed12:58
pvd2006My friend can't run the fakeroot command on Ubuntu12:58
pvd2006any reason why that would be the case?12:58
La_PaRCaOk.  I have some WMV files that I want to reproduce but its bitching because they dont have the right extension for an ASF Video File. How can I tell it wmv is indeed a valid extension for asf files?12:58
ZeZuanyone have suggestions on getting my 6ch audio to work ?12:58
pvd2006it says its not a command12:58
La_PaRCapvd2006, because he has to install it.12:58
ZeZualsamixer has surround on12:59
ZeZuset to independant like it is12:59
xcelhello12:59
pvd2006La_Parca oh, how can you do that12:59
pvd2006synaptic?12:59
IdleOne!tell pvd2006 about fakeroot12:59
polpakcd /path/do/files && for FILE in `ls | awk -F. '{print $1}'`; do mv $FILE.wmv $FILE.asf; done;12:59
ZeZuthe app i'm using to test it is in 6ch mode12:59
IdleOne!tell pvd2006 about sudo12:59
polpakLa_PaRCa, it's a little bash + awk foo12:59
La_PaRCapolpak, I can see that.12:59
ralph_NickGarvey: But that is not in my supported mount options - or is that an extra package to install?01:00
xcelhey! where is the url to update the "apt-get-list" ?01:00
La_PaRCaSo, any idea how I can tell nautilus that .wmv is a valid extension for asf mime type?01:00
La_PaRCapvd2006, just do: sudo apt-get install fakeroot01:00
IdleOne!tell xcel about easysource01:00
polpakLa_PaRCa, yeah.. I seem to remember seeing that bug & fix before01:00
xcelthx01:00
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La_PaRCapolpak, cant find it in the bugs DB01:01
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javiolohi01:01
xcelIdleOne, it wasn'st really that one01:01
Gunblade_jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036301:01
brennerubotu: tell xcel about repos01:01
javiolodo anyone knows what is nubuntu ?01:01
IdleOne!tell xcel about repos01:01
La_PaRCapolpak, um, I just found out there is a _rename_ command.01:01
_jasonLa_PaRCa: that's the regular expression kunfu way :)01:01
Gunbladeinstalling the unrar-free doesn't work, and the terminal says it can't find unrar-nonfree01:01
Buckuntuwow, this gdebi is a great idea01:02
Buckuntucommand line installing is one of my big beefs with linux01:02
xcelIdleOne, brenner thanks!! really apruciate it01:02
La_PaRCa_jason, ah, ok.01:02
_jasonGunblade: indeed you only have multiverse for backports, want to fix it with synaptic or manually editing the file?01:02
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javiolo!nubuntu01:02
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, javiolo01:02
IdleOneGunblade> you need to enable universe and multiverse ubotu  will send you a link01:02
IdleOne!tell Gunblade about repos01:02
XenguyBuckuntu: yer right, the command-line certainly is beefy :p01:02
Gunblade_jason: D: arrrrrrrgghhhh !01:02
BuckuntuXenguy, it's not that I can't use the command line, but I don't think it's necessary in a GUI environment for basic tasks01:03
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IdleOneXenguy>  cli is the stuff :)01:03
Buckuntuany way people come up with a way to do things in GUI rather than command line is a step further for the useability of linux IMO01:03
XenguyBuckuntu: would you prefer half a brain or a full one?  Use both :-)01:03
batmanhi01:03
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Gunblade_jason I followed that site ...so maybe I have to do it manually01:03
misterihow do I install LiLo and how can I find all these packages myself (for future references)01:04
BuckuntuXenguy, I like the full brain, and I use both, but, I'm talking about for average use =P01:04
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paganiniI have done lots of GNOME customizing; so, I am wondering if its possible to get windows in GNOME to snap to the edge of the screen the way they do in KDE01:04
geert_hoi01:04
_jasonGunblade: on every line that you see ``universe'' without ``multiverse'', change ``universe'' to ``universe multiverse''01:04
ralph_NickGarvey: Tried it with hfsplus, and it seems to work. But changing hfs to hfsplus in the /etc/fstab didn't. I guess I have to fiddle around a bit more.01:04
Buckuntupaganini, that's what the new version takes care of01:04
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XenguyBuckuntu: OK, though "average" is a moving target, an evolving thing :-)01:04
paganini(That is, I have just done lots of GNOME customizing TODAY. That wasn't supposed to be an indication of my authority. ;)01:04
Buckuntuat least, that's my understanding of it from reading the changelog and stuff01:04
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ralph_NickGarvey: And sorry, forgot that: Thanks a lot. It seems that my manpage for mount is not quite uptodate...01:05
paganiniSo, would the new version be the one that will come out with Dapper?01:05
Buckuntupaganini, a new gnome was released very recently that handles that01:05
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Gunblade_jason the sources.list?01:05
XenguyBuckuntu: which is to say people can educate themselves and others about cli benefits, and enjoy the benefits01:05
Buckuntuyep, dapper will have it almost certainly01:05
_jasonGunblade: yep just issue the command: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'01:05
geert_hi there, im having problems with my audigy soundcard01:05
ziky82#ozieri01:05
BuckuntuXenguy, I agree, I like ubuntu a lot, but certain things will prevent a mom-and-pop type from using it in some cases01:05
BuckuntuI know my dad would never be able to touch linux, for example01:06
Buckuntuhe knows nothing of the command line even if he is a moderate computer user01:06
_jasonLa_PaRCa: for i in *; do mv $i ${i%.*}.newextenstion; done, :)01:06
XenguyBuckuntu: I hear ya - we don't want to rely to much soley on cli as it raises the bar of entry unacceptably high01:06
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Xenguyer, too01:06
IdleOneBuckuntu>  hence the need for you to have your own machine to run ubuntu on...expplain to them that it is a way for you to learn something new :)01:07
misterihelp me install LiLo, anyone?01:07
ZeZuanyone? trying to get surround to work and it pretty much refuses01:07
geert_help....01:07
gazanferhello. when i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed01:07
Gunblade_jason that command doesn't seem to work01:07
BuckuntuIdleOne, I have a whole dedicated Ubuntu machine, I still run windows on my other computer tho01:07
paganiniMisteri, is there a particular reason you want to use lilo instead of grub?01:07
misterino paganini01:08
IdleOneBuckuntu>  then the rents should be happy hehe01:08
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brennerZeZu: try searching the forum for your card01:08
Xenguygazanfer: yuck01:08
paganiniCos, I think grub is pretty cool. And it is easy to install.01:08
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Gunblade_jason I just ">" the file doesn't open or anything...01:08
Gunbladejust get*01:08
IdleOnegazanfer>  sudo apt-get -f install01:08
misteriso, will grub notice I have Ubuntu and Xubuntu?01:08
BuckuntuI own two computers now, this is actually a pretty powerful little linux box I have here, used to be my main computer until I bought another one01:08
Gunbladeopening the file through nautilus won't let me edit it either01:08
paganinimisteri: probably01:08
paganinimisteri: but if not, it is really easy to customize01:09
isodudeBah, nobody with some dpkg hax knowledge around? =)01:09
misterithnx01:09
ZeZudamn konversation is opening urls in bluefish, odd for viewing heh01:09
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misteriand my soundcard doesn't work. It's an old laptop I got from a friend and I don't know anything about the hardware inside01:10
_jasonGunblade: strange... can you pastebin exactly what happened?01:10
Buckuntusupposedly the new gnome fixes that login screen background color problem too01:11
gazanferIdleOne, it doesnt work either. it says they are already the newest versions01:11
Buckuntuis there a way to configure that in the old version that anyone knows of?01:11
IdleOnegazanfer>  hmmm sounds bad...dont know what to tell you :/01:11
Buckuntuit makes it a little hard to run an all blue theme when the login screen's background color comes up orange01:11
Gunblade_jason in the terminal?01:11
brennerBuckuntu: the brown bg?  sys>admin>login screen setup01:11
brennerBuckuntu: then gtk+ greeter tab >bg color01:12
misterihow do I find my soundcard? - I know there is one lol01:12
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_jasonGunblade: yeah, just copy and paste the command and output to pastebin01:12
polpakmisteri, lspci01:12
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Terminusmisteri: lspci should give you info about your hardware.01:12
gazanferhello. when i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed. -f doesn't work either. any ideas?01:12
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Buckuntuhmm, I must've overlooked that, thanks guys01:12
paganiniMisteri: System -> Administration -> Device Manager will give you a graphical front-end01:13
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Buckuntubbiab01:13
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NickGarveyralph_: no problem, I know NOTHING about macs, but I do know the power of google :-P01:14
|mp|anyone using/tried Intel graphics driver?01:14
Gunblade_jason: http://pastebin.com/60654601:14
misteriyipe!! which one those strings is my soundcard? :S Sorry for being a n00b01:14
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_jasonGunblade: you forgot the ' at the end01:14
IdleOnegazanfer>  ask your question in here please as it may help others also...and sorry I dont know the answer to your question01:14
brennermisteri: lspci |grep Audio01:15
Gunblade_jason: >_<" lololol01:15
gazanferwhen i run aptitude, i can see that i have 72 broken file dependencies. but when i try to install them, it says they're already installed. -f doesn't work either. any ideas?01:15
brenner|mp|: best to just ask anyway01:15
naliothgazanfer: is this breezy?01:15
gazanfernalioth, yes01:16
misteribrenner, it didn't find any "audio"01:16
brennermisteri: capital A01:16
Buckuntuhow about the splash screen, do you have to edit that value in the configuration editor, because that seemed to just make the splash screen vanish altogether for me01:16
NickGarveyhow do I kill the x windows server remotely?01:16
naliothgazanfer: are you using any non official repos?01:16
jadaz87wow i just notived there are 661 people in here01:16
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gazanfernalioth, yes i do use multiverse and universe repos.01:16
IdleOnejadaz87>  slow day/night :)01:16
misteribrenner,  still nothin'01:17
naliothgazanfer: have you installed any debian debs?01:17
gazanfernalioth, no i havent01:17
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brennermisteri: just pastebin the whole output :)01:17
jadaz87idle one :) right now i am bored so i decided to try knoppmyth for a media server01:17
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brennerBuckuntu: i used gtweakui01:17
mdmkolbeHow do I connect with IPSec in Ubuntu?01:18
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misteribrenner, it doesn't give any output for that command01:18
IdleOnejadaz87>  sounds like a project :) I dont know what knoppmyth is though hehe01:18
jadaz87idleone http://www.mysettopbox.tv01:18
Terminusmisteri: he means run lspci without piping to grep and pastebin it. :)01:18
misteri...and I don't know how to pastebin =DDD01:18
Terminus!paste01:18
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.01:18
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jadaz87idleone it is like media center except a linux distro01:19
dOobvie tu niekto po slovensky ??01:19
Gunblade_jason: thanks, it all works now01:19
IdleOne!sk01:19
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne01:19
brennerTerminus: heh. thanks.  you can take over now :P01:19
_jasonGunblade: great01:19
misterid00d, wrong language01:19
IdleOne!ru01:19
dOobOK sorry01:19
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help01:19
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IdleOneseems there isnt a slovac channel01:20
Terminusbrenner: i was trying to look for a pattern match and you beat me to it earlier. tried to run lspci on another box and remembered it didn't have a soundcard. hehe01:20
AuciE: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline. im gewtting this error when all the updates finish downloading and the install process starts.01:20
Auciplease I need help01:20
GunbladeOk on to the next question. While browsing pictures off of my camera, I have to individually click them, is there an image viewer where I can use the right arrow button to go to the next image in the same foldeR?01:20
mdmkolbeDoes ubuntu have an IPSec wizard/druid or do I need to do that manually from the command line?01:20
ralph_NickGarvey: So how did you google that one? Because I tried that as well...01:20
paganiniHmm01:20
Terminusbrenner: i think i'm still asleep. =D01:20
paganiniTotem is playing my movies grainy with gstreamer. I wonder if Xine would do better.01:20
IdleOnepaganini>  can always try and see :)01:21
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Overand(in commandline) how can I see the status (installed or not) of a package?01:21
Terminuspaganini: xine has been better in my experience. :)01:21
jadaz87can you have totem gstreamer and totem xine installed at the same time?01:21
glm2kGunblade: gqview can do that, you go to the next image by pressing the space bar.01:21
gazanfernalioth, is there a way to make apt-get examine all installed packages and remake the database, etc?01:21
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naliothgazanfer: just apt-get update01:22
nickrudAuci: possibly your iso is slightly defective ; you can check it with  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:22
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V4Vendettais it safe to upgrade to gnome 2.14 on breezy?01:22
XenguyOverand: dpkg -l packagename*01:22
TerminusOverand: dpkg-query -l01:22
nickrudOverand: dpkg -l <package> ; if it's not installed it may not show up01:22
brennerjadaz87: no01:23
XenguyOverand: see also 'apt-file' -- very useful01:23
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jadaz87brenner does totem xine support mpeg?01:23
detox332hi everyone, ive been using breezy for about 7 months now, and just recently had to reinstall the os, upon installing the gstreamer-plugins i get this error about /libvisual/transform i tried reinstalling libvisual and all the plugins but still no luck, does anyone have any advice?01:23
Gunbladeglm2k: What is gqview? I have image viewer, space jar opens a new window thats it01:24
Buckuntuis it true that automatix is a security risk that opens up the root user or something?01:24
V4VendettaBuckuntu, no01:24
Buckuntuoh, someone on /. was saying that FUD today01:24
jadaz87v 4 vendetta i want to see that movie01:24
Buckuntuwasn't sure if it was FUD or not01:24
_jasonBuckuntu: it used to01:24
Terminusjadaz87: already seen it. twice. since 2 days ago. =D01:24
ZeZuanyone got an asus p4c800 deluxe ?  It uses the intel ich5 right?01:25
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jadaz87does it not come out March 17th?01:25
_jasonBuckuntu: here http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html01:25
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yohancould someone please help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=832209#post83220901:25
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Terminusjadaz87: it started screening here march 15. and we better move over to offtopic if we're gonna continue this discussion. =D01:25
brennerjadaz87: w/ w32codecs, yes.01:25
jadaz87oh ok01:25
Xenguyyohan: general summary?01:25
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jadaz87already there terminus01:26
jadaz87:D01:26
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yohanXenguy: check the link..01:26
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detox332anyone have advice on how to fix the /libvisual/transform error?01:26
Xenguyyohan: I'm lazy :-)01:26
yohanXenguy: please :) i have my error there too :)01:26
Gunbladeglm2k: Ah nm, I installed it neat, thx01:26
Xenguyyohan: what's the general idea?01:26
gazanferhow can i enable volume control buttons on my notebook?01:27
zFQuestion01:27
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muepyohan: do you have glib dev libs installed?01:27
yohanproblem when compiling gaim01:27
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jadaz87brenner aalright01:27
zFHow do I search for files?01:27
yohanmuep: yeah i have the default ones01:27
nickrudzF: Places  search for files01:27
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Xenguyyohan: I have no idea why you would compile it in the first place; just install the package01:27
robertowho spiking spanish?01:27
Buckuntubrb01:27
yohanXenguy: there is no for gaim 201:27
Xenguyyohan: oh, meh01:28
IdleOne!es01:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:28
ZeZuI can't find anything for my audio chipset oddly enough, anyone have any tips for getting surround to work ?01:28
polpak!es01:28
detox332gaim 2.0 beta seems to work fine on mine01:28
muepyohan: it'll be there when it's ready, though01:28
polpaklol01:28
Xenguyyohan: sorry, I'm being an ass...01:28
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muepyohan: is there something you absolutely need in gaim2?01:28
Xenguyyohan: I'm just not interested in this case, no worries01:28
yohandetox332: did you compile it?01:28
detox332search for gaim 2.0 some guy made a deb so we can play around with it01:28
zFnickrud, that seems to be missing from the panel. I see it on this laptop but on the Ubuntu server I'm VNC'd into it's not there01:28
yohanmuep: yeah video camera support01:28
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yohanive had this problem with glib when compiling other things too :/01:28
Buckuntusweet, I'm fully blue now01:28
muepyohan: you could try to install libglib2.0-dev01:29
detox332http://www.dissociatedpress.net/?p=9901:29
BuckuntuI tried to live with the default brown, but I just can't...hehe01:29
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yohanmuep: have that one installed01:29
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detox332ive never had a problem yet01:29
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Buckuntublue is so much more pleasing to my eyes01:29
nickrudzF: no idea why its not there. you can use locate in a terminal ; if it's a recent addition, you may need to run sudo updatedb first01:29
detox332just do the usual sudo dpkg -i deal01:29
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muepyohan: you'll mess up your system if you keep compiling stuff like that01:30
yohanmuep: why is that?01:30
yohani was going to do a checkinstall -D make install later, isnt that good enough?01:30
muepyohan: you shouldn't install anything except with the package manager01:30
detox332??01:30
zFnickrud, can I search the file system for files and grep for the name I'm seraching for?01:30
muepyohan: oh, that is better01:30
yohanwhy dude :)01:30
zFHow do I "manually" do that01:30
detox332never install unless its w/ package manager01:30
detox332??01:30
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yohani know but some things dont exist01:31
muepcheckinstall registers it with dpkg01:31
Buckuntuman, I love python01:31
Buckuntuhehe01:31
nickrudzF: functionally that's what slocate does ; there's also find , which I never took the time to learn01:31
muepyohan: but it would be wiser to first make the package with a normal user01:31
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muepyohan: and then only install it with sudo and dpkg01:32
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yohank01:32
blazzzzzzzzzzzhello all : i have try w3m but it failed .. i'm looking browser that can run from console and can run cgi irc01:32
muepthat way checkinstall can't mess your system even if it wanted01:32
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Buckuntuhas anyone actually ever got .dvr-ms files to work on a linux player?01:33
BuckuntuI know ffmpeg says it has support, but I never could get it working01:33
muepwhat are they?01:33
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Buckuntuthey are the files that MS media center edition stores recorded TV in01:34
Buckuntuit's basically some kind of wrapper around either mpeg or asf01:34
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Buckunturight now I'm running a service that converts the files to mpeg then puts them in a shared folder, but that involves having two copies around and manually deleting them01:34
Ads_Hi, can anyone recommend me a decent wan utility please? One that'll just allow me to hop onto to an access point since I am in more than one place during the day. Preferably support for profiles thanks. :)01:34
glm2kblazzzzzzzzzzz: have you tried links?01:35
BuckuntuI'd love if I could have a player that would let me just watch them on linux from the shared videos folder01:35
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SetMeFreedoes anyone know how I can use terminal to make all files within a folder executable?01:35
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IdleOne!flight501:36
ubotu[flight5]  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing01:36
muepSetMeFree: chmod 755 *01:36
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nickrudSetMeFree: chmod +x * /path/to/files/*01:36
ktogiasSetMeFree, chmod +x /path_to_folder/*01:36
blazzzzzzzzzzz!console browser01:36
ubotublazzzzzzzzzzz: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:36
nickrudktogias: you fixed my typo, thanks01:36
Buckuntusether, I'd imagine a chmod on a for loop would do it01:36
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blazzzzzzzzzzzhello all : i have try w3m but it failed .. i'm looking browser that can run from console and can run cgi irc01:36
Buckuntuexact syntax, I have no idea, I should really learn whatever scripting language the console uses01:36
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nazgulwalkerwhat is the file name for adobereader (apt-get install (filename) ) ?01:37
Buckuntuyou might be able to just chmod the bulk of em, dunno if the command works that way01:37
Ads_Hi, can anyone recommend me a decent wan utility please? One that'll just allow me to hop onto to an access point since I am in more than one place during the day. Preferably support for profiles thanks. :)01:37
Buckuntuso I guess I know nothing, nm I'll just shutup01:37
SetMeFreethanks01:37
jason__pdf reader = evince01:37
nickrudBuckuntu: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html :)01:37
SetMeFreehow do I change the ownership to a folder and all files/subfolders within that one?01:37
gazanfercan someone please paste universe and multiverse enabled sources.list?01:37
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nickrud!sources01:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:37
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nazgulwalkerwhat is the file name for adobereader (apt-get install (filename) ) ?01:38
brennergazanfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy)01:38
ktogiasSetMeFree, chown -R user:group /path_to_dir/01:38
BuckuntuI've been using computers since I was like 8 and I just jumped onto linux, quite a transition I must say01:38
nickrudgazanfer: there're some good sources just above from ubotu01:38
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gazanferthanks01:38
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jason__nazgulwalker.. It's evince01:39
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Ads_Has anyone else noticed their wireless working better in ubuntu? I mean I used the windows driver via ndiswrapper and my wireless pmcia card works amazingly better in ubuntu lmfao it's brilliant01:39
nickrudnazgulwalker: evince (or acroread)01:39
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brennerBuckuntu: a good one hopefully01:39
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ktogiasAds_, I use a wirless card with ndiswrapper, but I have never tried it in a Windows box...01:40
Buckuntubrenner: it's not too bad, the thing that surprises me the most is how much the GUI seems like, disconnected at times01:40
nazgulwalkeri have evince already but when i type acroread it gives error .01:40
Ads_ktogias: i see, well it's amazingly better in ubunut lol01:40
SetMeFreeI put some php scripts in my www folder... but firefox only wants to download them when I try to access the site01:40
nickrudnazgulwalker: install it first01:40
volcom_b0iI noticed my card could scan further then with ndiswrapper when using the native method in dapper.01:41
brennerBuckuntu: how so?01:41
nazgulwalkerPackage acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:41
nazgulwalkerThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:41
nazgulwalkeris only available from another source01:41
nazgulwalkerHowever the following packages replace it:01:41
nazgulwalker  acroread-debian-files01:41
nazgulwalkerE: Package acroread has no installation candidate01:41
Buckuntubrenner: like I'm used to being able to hand type a path sometimes in an open dialog and that doesn't always show up where I would imagine it would01:41
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apokryphosnazgulwalker: do not paste in here :)01:41
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nazgulwalkeri am sorry can you help me ?01:41
Ads_ktogias: talking about wireless can you recommend a utility for me please? one i can use to hop onto different access points? i use my lapto in many public places with wireless available and i want to be able to hop into an AP by selecing one that's detected any ideas?01:41
IdleOnenazgulwalker> sudo apt-get install acroread-debian-files01:42
nazgulwalkerthen it say it requires acroread .. . .01:42
Buckuntuhmm01:42
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BuckuntuI don't know why anyone would wanna install a different acrobat reader, I was thoroughly satisfied in that regard01:42
nickrudnazgulwalker: you need to enable multiverse to get acroread01:42
volcom_b0iAds_: learn to do it from the command line.  IT is way more... Stable?01:42
rafase282hola01:42
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nickrud!multiverse01:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:43
nazgulwalkermultiverse is enabled already01:43
ktogiasAds_, ubuntu's gnome's system -> System management -> Network is not enough for you?01:43
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volcom_b0iAds_: once you can do it from the command line, you can make scripts so you just type in console. home, for example and it will connect.01:43
Ads_ktogias: that doesn't show a list of access points though does it?01:43
brennerBuckuntu: some files just work better in the official product apparently01:43
nickrudnazgulwalker: could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin01:43
volcom_b0iAds_: type this in console, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan01:43
nazgulwalkercan you send me the link for pastebin01:43
Ads_volocom_b0i: how would i get a list of current active APs in my area?01:43
nickrud!pastebin01:43
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Ads_volocom_b0i: kk i will give it a go01:44
nickrud!tell nazgulwalker about pastebin01:44
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volcom_b0iAds_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid network_name01:44
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Buckuntubrenner, hehe, I hate adobe acrobat reader, maybe I'm a little biased that way01:44
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BuckuntuI absolutely hate that thing01:44
ktogiasAds_, I think it does... When you click properties on wireless adapter, it has a dropdown list with the accespoints it scanned...01:44
NintendudAlright, something fucked up has happened. Everything in /dev besides initctl and null is gone. I can't mount my cd drives because of it, and I fear that if I reboot it I won't be able to boot back in because I doubt it would be able to mount my hard drives. Anything I can do to fix this besides reinstalling?01:45
nickrudevince works very nicely, especially the later versions01:45
Ads_i see01:45
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volcom_b0iAds_: then, if it has a wep key, you need to do sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc (put your key here)01:45
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silvaranNintendud: What about /etc/init.d/udev start ?01:45
volcom_b0iAds_: then, sudo dhclient wlan0 and viola, its connected01:45
NintendudThis has also caused a weird error when initializing firefox or mozilla thunderbird: ./run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 24228 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}01:45
Nintendudsilvaran: run that command?01:46
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silvaranNintendud: I guess :)01:46
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nazgulwalkerok  i pasted it01:46
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silvaranNintendud: udev is responsible for creating and removing stuff in /dev, so hey, give 'er.01:46
ktogiasAds_, volcom_b0i  all this can also be done throught the network manager by klicking01:46
nazgulwalkerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036401:46
Ads_volocom_b0i: is that key in hex only?01:46
Nintendudoh okay01:46
Nintendudoh shit01:46
volcom_b0iktogias, yes, but what happends when that doesn't work.  Cause sometimes it doesn't01:47
silvaranDidn't work?01:47
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Protocol1everything looks good for my java but its not working for some reason...it says everything is installed01:47
Nintendudno, I forgot to run it as root01:47
volcom_b0iktogias: learning to do it right, saves you frustration.01:47
Nintendudso I closed terminal01:47
Protocol1can someone help me01:47
Nintendudand now I can't open another terminal01:47
silvaranNintendud: And now gnome-terminal won't start? ;) ...01:47
brennerwhere exactly can we view changelogs?  i'd like to see the differences b/n upgrade versions01:47
Nintendudthey error out01:47
silvaranNintendud: Ctrl+Alt+F101:47
Nintendudsilvaran: aterm and gnome-terminal01:47
Ads_ktogias: i agree with volocom_b0i, i prefer the terminal anyways01:47
nazgulwalkercan't i install acroread manually ?01:47
silvaranNintendud: Or Alt+F2, then "xterm" .. that one might still run ... Alt+F7 to get back to X if you did the Ctrl+Alt+F1 idea.01:48
foampeaceis ther a streamripper for windows01:48
bimberiAds_: are you aware of "network-manager".  It's aim is to manage network connections for you.  Not sure how well is does it though.01:48
brennernazgulwalker: it's best to use the repos.  have you done an apt-get update yet?01:48
Ads_bimberi: i am aware of it thanks lol it's ok i've managed to do what i needed to thanks to volocom_b0i01:48
nickrudnazgulwalker: I don't see anything wrong with those sources (except maybe for security being commented, but thats not the issue here) I just tried downloading it, and got it.01:49
bimberiAds_: kk :)01:49
Ads_:)01:49
Ads_though i do have an issue i need help with..........01:49
volcom_b0iI am just saying, if you are stuck in console, then what!?  Console will save you :) I promise.01:49
Ads_:)01:49
ktogiasvolcom_b0i, I agree with you. I prefer terminal too, but It was a good surprise for me to see that all this can be quickly done through the gui... And It has the option whether to use hex or aschii key, and as far as I have used, it always works :P01:49
nazgulwalkermaybe package is not in tr archive is it possible?01:49
nazgulwalkeryes i had done update01:50
silvaranWow... I think Nintendud hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 before I could tell him about Alt+F7 :(01:50
volcom_b0iktogias: I know, but sometimes your x crashes and you need to connect from the term, I just remember head aches from depending ona  gui, good to know both i guess:)01:50
nickrudnazgulwalker: it's possible, but unlikely. Try removing tr. from each line it's in, and updating again. See what happens.01:50
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bimberinazgulwalker: it's in the multiverse repository.  Is that enabled?01:51
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IdleOnenazgulwalker>  Im apt-get acroread right now so its in the repos01:51
nazgulwalkeri tried it already but it gives error when i remove "tr."01:51
ktogiasAds_, If you are a terminal boy too, then learn the good and compatible console way.01:51
Ads_ktogias: do you know a place where i can get a quick acess to all these useful commands for the console?01:51
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nickrudbimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10364 <--- nazgulwalker's sources01:51
volcom_b0iJust good to know, nothing wrong with GUI, but be sure to know both :)01:51
apokryphos!cli01:51
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org01:51
IdleOne!tell Ads_ about cli01:51
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Ads_cool01:52
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Ads_ok guys can any of you help with one more problem? my ubuntu boot sequence? it stays stuck on "setting up LVM volumes" for agessss then finally boots into ubuntu01:52
volcom_b0iIve learned so much just from sitting in these rooms, it is nice to see that the dapper room is moving today :)01:52
bimberinickrud: my apologies, i'm coming in late and uninformed01:53
apokryphosdecent command line cheat sheet, too: http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/01:53
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volcom_b0iwait, what room, oops in breezy!01:53
nickrudbimberi: no, extra eyes hurt nothing01:53
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volcom_b0iI thought it was moving fast, dapper is usuallky... slower!01:53
bimberinickrud: :)01:53
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thomas`how can i find out my router ip?01:53
brennervolcom_b0i: hehe01:53
thomas`ip info?01:53
thomas`i forgot command line for terminal01:54
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nickrudnazgulwalker: removing tr. so you have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted shouldn't get you an error (don't forget to update)01:54
SutureIs gnome 2.14 on backports?01:54
Protocol1thomas, ip addr01:54
muepSuture: no01:54
SutureWill it be?01:54
mueptoo big01:54
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SutureOk01:54
naliothSuture: 2.14 will only run in dapper01:54
IdleOnethomas`> ifconfig will give you that info01:54
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thomas`nice thanks01:55
Suturenalioth: really? why?01:55
volcom_b0iSuture: yes, to my knowledge it runs onlky in dapper, It is nice! :)01:55
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rukuarticAdurrr.... what was that screenshot utility?01:55
naliothdifferences in xorg01:55
naliothSuture: ^^^^01:55
rukuarticThe console one...01:55
Nintendudsilvaran: haha, didn't work, it just restarted my computer.. but restarting fixed it01:55
IdleOnerukuartic> scrot01:55
SutureI see.. is it relatively safe to get dapper now that its 5?01:55
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rukuarticIdleOne: Thats it... I kept on thinking it was shottie01:55
NintendudI logged in and it didn't let me do anything at the command line... just said You have new mail and froze there ;p01:55
nazgulwalkero had remove the ".tr" from sources.list updated,upgraded and tried again but i see the same error01:56
nazgulwalkernickrud: i tried those and i saw the same error ..01:56
Nintendudthen it restarted, and now everything is all good01:56
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IdleOnerukuartic> how do you forget a word like scrot?>01:56
IdleOnelol01:56
muepSuture: it is safe if you can use the command line01:56
Suturemuep: k01:56
nickrudnazgulwalker: how about pasting the error from the apt-get update?01:56
muepso you can fix things if it breaks01:56
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sword-hey whats up01:56
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volcom_b0iSuture: My dapper took a few hours of CLI work.01:56
sword-what are some good programs to covert flac files to mp301:56
sword-?01:56
Suturemuep: before i look for a upgrade howto is there some easy way to do it?01:56
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Buckuntusamba sometimes acts funny01:56
muepSuture: it is very easy01:56
Buckuntuwhat's with that?01:56
Ads_i need some help with streaming wmv files on webpages..........seeing as media player obviously isn't in linux flavour........i tried the gstramer firefox plugin but that just crashes firefox so i need an alternative if possible01:57
__mikemThere appears to be a newer version of gnome available, is it safe to assume that I can just install it and it will run fine01:57
volcom_b0iSuture: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all breezy to dapper01:57
nazgulwalkerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036601:57
gazanferhow can i enable volume control buttons on my notebook?01:57
fladdhi there, does anyone know how i can remove dead entries from my /usr/share/info/dir file?01:57
IdleOne!tell Ads_ about mplayer01:57
Suturevolcom_b0i: ok thats what i thought i had to do01:57
Buckuntu__mikem, if you can compile from source let me know how please....hehe01:57
SutureThanks for the info01:57
volcom_b0iSuture: type in console, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and hold on to your socks :)01:57
__mikemThey have binary installers on the gnome site01:57
Suturevolcom_b0i:  ;)01:58
brennergazanfer: easy method: sys>prefs>k/b/ shorcuts.  harder method: doing it through xorg01:58
_jasonAds_: install mplayer using the bot's link and then install the mozilla-mplayer package for the plugin01:58
Buckuntureally?  I didn't see that01:58
__mikemO wait never mind01:58
__mikemI didn't see the word "source" in "source tarbols"01:58
Ads__jason: will do01:58
gazanferbrenner, i'm not using gnome...01:58
nickrudnazgulwalker: very strange, because this shows it should be there: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=acroread&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all01:58
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brennergazanfer: what then?01:59
volcom_b0iSuture: are you using ndiswrapper?01:59
gazanferbrenner, xfce401:59
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__mikemxfce is good, but its too hard to customize02:00
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nazgulwalkerwhat will i do02:00
IdleOnegazanfer>  that doesnt make a diff02:00
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__mikem!xfce02:00
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ubotuI heard xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/02:00
volcom_b0i:) xfce4 is nice, too bad it isn't working with dapper!  BTW do not dist-upgrade with xfce4 instlaled.02:00
nazgulwalkeris it about security?(sources.list)02:00
radagradIs there a webpage somewhere here I can see the versions of packages currently in Dapper?02:00
__mikemvolcom_b0i what will happen02:00
brennerIdleOne: it doesn't?02:00
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volcom_b0i__mikem: you will get depend errors during your upgrade, you will lose your install, I promise!02:01
gazanfervolcom_b0i, why is that?02:01
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volcom_b0i__mikem: It happened to me a few days ago.02:01
Shadowpillar!skype02:01
ubotumethinks skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/02:01
Shadowpillar!gizmo02:01
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Shadowpillar02:01
IdleOnebrenner>  hmmm wait I think I was thinking about nazgulwalker  problem sorry02:01
__mikemoh ok02:01
Shadowpillaranyone know which repo offers skype?02:01
nickrudnazgulwalker: use evince, and I would doubt it. You should have security enabled anyway on general principles02:01
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IdleOne!tell Shadowline about skype02:01
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Kelsey23!tell Kelsey23 about skype02:02
brennergazanfer: try #xfce then02:02
gazanferbrenner, thank you02:02
IdleOnebrenner>  next time Ill read before I chime in :/02:02
__mikemI like kde best, but I can't get kde to run in screen resolutions higher than 1024x76802:02
nazgulwalkeri am upgrading security updates right now then i will try again02:02
brennerIdleOne: no worries. i do it too.02:03
IdleOnehehe02:03
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brenner__mikem: and other DEs do?  that's weird02:03
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nickrudnazgulwalker: are you on i386 ?02:03
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nazgulwalkerno , amd6402:03
nickrudHA!02:03
__mikemI love my amd6402:03
sword-what are some good programs to covert flac files to mp302:04
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nickrudnazgulwalker: I use i386, and assume everyone does, acroread is not there for amd64.02:04
ubuntu_hi02:04
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nazgulwalkeroh , i see .02:04
ubuntu_im ubuntu user02:04
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nazgulwalkerthanks anyway02:04
brennersword-: soundconverter maybe02:05
SyLis there a way to not have hotplug start during booting? like a lilo/grub argument you can add?02:05
rukuarticAnyone know how I can get rid of the window in gnome-terminal? Der... the bounding box... so I just get that neat little transparant window instead of having the minimize stuff etc? Kinda like on Gentoo boxes...02:05
brennersword-: search your packaged02:05
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nickrudnazgulwalker: I'll know to ask that next time02:05
rukuarticSyL: Gotta edit your init.rd02:05
brenners/packaged/packages02:05
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_jasonrukuartic: yes, I know of a way: devilspie02:05
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SyLrukuartic: I can't get to it... system stops at "starting hot plugging" =)02:05
rukuarticSyL: Try using "sysvconfig"... gotta install it02:06
snooohelp! just upgraded to dapper and xorg wont boot... whats the command for reconfiguring the xserver?02:06
rukuartic_jason: that an alternative to gnome-console?02:06
IdleOnejoin #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !02:06
__mikemHow do I get Ubuntu to run faster in VM Ware02:06
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isodudeHey, if dpkg-reconfigure -a doesn't help when I'm getting "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." from sudo apt-get update. What can one do then?02:06
_jason!devilspie02:06
ubotuI heard devilspie is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Devilspie and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749, for later versions not in the breezy repositories: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9807102:06
__mikemHow do I get Ubuntu to run faster in VM Ware02:06
rukuarticAnd all of a sudden, #ubuntu+1 was flooded with users looking for pie.02:06
brennerSyL: i think you can pass 'nothotplug' to grub.  not sure if that's the option though02:06
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nickruda well named package if I ever saw one02:06
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brenners/nothotplug/nohotplug02:06
YukiCuss__mikem, don't use VMware. : )02:06
ubuntu_mais algum usuario do ubuntu brasileiro aqui?02:06
Shadowpillar__mikem: did you install the vmware drivers within ubuntu on vmware?02:06
ubuntu_sou so eu?02:06
_jason!br02:07
IdleOneisodude> try dpkg --configure -a02:07
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.02:07
isodudesnooo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:07
__mikemYup02:07
V4Vendettaabiword is my favorite program02:07
V4Vendetta:-P02:07
Shadowpillar__mikem: and configure xorg to use the vmware display drivers?02:07
rukuartic_jason: How exactly you reccomend going about that?02:07
isodudeIdleOne: oh, a answer :) i'll try.02:07
kfirbubuntu informs me of 2 new updates (dhcpclient and dhcp3common). it says it can not authenticate the sources.. why ??02:07
__mikemYukiCus I don't have much of a choice because my laptop that I was running ubuntu on died02:07
__mikemshadowpiller, I don't know02:07
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_jasonrukuartic: one sec02:07
V4Vendettakfirb, that's okay, install them02:07
__mikemI believe so02:07
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SyLbrenner: heh, thanks, I was hoping for a confirmation, but that will do... =)02:07
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YukiCuss... >_>02:07
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V4Vendettaanyone here a medical student?02:08
kfirbI don't have much choices (other than not to install) however, why can't it authenticate?02:08
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ITSa341Who was it that was trying to help me with my gps drivers? I had the RH drivers and was trying to figure out how to convert them.  Are ya here now?02:08
V4Vendettakfirb, dunno.02:08
Buckuntuhas anyone heard of a distro that is going to include XGL soon?02:08
V4VendettaBuckuntu, yes02:08
__mikemShadowpiller, what command would I use to find out02:09
Buckuntuwhat is it?02:09
V4VendettaBuckuntu, they have a live cd02:09
V4VendettaBuckuntu, i forget the name02:09
Buckuntuyeah, I tried out the live cd02:09
ITSa341IdleOne   that's right it was you that was trying to help me02:09
V4VendettaBuckuntu, was the live-cd good?02:09
IdleOneisodude>  look at the error you got dude you had the solution the whole time :)02:09
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Buckuntuyeah, it's actually pretty great02:09
Buckuntueven on my TI4200 I have on this02:09
Buckuntuworks very nicely02:09
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IdleOneITSa341>  did you get it working?02:09
Buckuntuthe most impressive thing is the cube for virtual desktops02:09
Buckuntuthat's really nice02:09
__mikemThe sad thing is, the live cd runs faster than an instalation does on vmware02:09
isodudelol02:09
_jasonrukuartic: ok, first you have to get and install devilspie, then spend a few minutes learning how to create rules for devilspie, then create on that matches gnome-terminal and removes decoration (I can't remember the exact item, just tell me if you can't find it)02:10
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isodudeIdleOne: could be the small amount of sleep that does it. haha thanks for clearing that up anyway.02:10
rukuartic_jason: Hehe... Alright I'll see if I can getit ...02:10
V4Vendettagoddamn paper on parts of the brain02:10
V4Vendetta---02:10
ITSa341IdleOne  I got my GPS working as well as GPS drive    hehe  Duh, the drivers for the chipset were already in Ubuntu and Xandros  I just needed a symlink to /dev/gps02:10
rukuartic_jason: So I'd run the terminal with devilspie?02:10
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_jasonrukuartic: I put it in system > prefs > session > startup02:10
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intelikey__mikem not unusual,  vm is having to emulate more for the installed.02:11
IdleOneITSa341>  glad to hear you got it going ...now your clear on windows :)02:11
isodudeSomeone who has experienced any hangups with dapper?02:11
IdleOnes/on/of02:11
_jasonrukuartic: devilspie just ``modifies'' your windows.  For example you can tell it to always put firefox on your second workspace02:11
YukiCussisodude, I called her last night, but she kept hanging up on me!02:11
ITSa341GPS Drive is NOT even close to ready for primetime yet but if I can get Position working I'll be all set from what I have been told02:11
isodudeI had it all the time, when chatting / surfing , playing music w/e02:11
smogHow do you find out your linux kernal version?02:11
isodudeThought it might have to do with Cool'n'quiet since I'm running amd6402:12
sword-thanks brenner02:12
intelikeymy w hurts.02:12
YukiCusssmog, uname -a02:12
_jasonsmog: uname -r02:12
smogthank you02:12
rukuartic_jason: Nice. You know where I can get the base .devilspie.xml file?02:12
ITSa341IdleOne  have you ever installed Position?02:12
__mikemIm getting hungary, WHERES THAT DEVILSPIE02:12
intelikeymy "who" hurts also.02:12
isodudeThen I went into bios and clocked down the FSB to standard clock ( from 220 to 200 ), has worked perfect since02:12
IdleOneITSa341>  nope never02:12
isodude2h now :)02:12
_jasonrukuartic: I've never used the early versions where xml was still used.  But I believe there is no base.  You just create one with the rule you want.  The first forum link ubotu had has a good tutorial iirc02:12
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ITSa341IdleOne  well, thanks for your help the other day anyway. I really appreciate the help you and others are so willing to give in this room.02:13
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_jasonrukuartic: that reminds me, I can't guarantee the no-decorations thing exists in the repo version :)02:13
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IdleOneITSa341>  its all about Ubuntu :)02:13
brennerawwww02:13
isodudeYukiCuss: misread that line of yours as well..02:13
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IdleOneITSa341>  and your welcome02:14
isodudeSomethings wrong with my eyes tongiht02:14
kfirbI I hope it's okay to ask this question here, but since I run ubuntu I consider it legitimate.. but there goes my case: I would like to run a program in a terminal, not to see it's output everytime, only when I wish to. I think redirecting the output via >a.txt and then cating a.txt whenever I wish to see it's output should work.02:14
isoduderonight02:14
isodude:(02:14
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ITSa341IdleOne   It might be all about ubuntu but I have also found a lot of the info to work great in Xandros 4 as well02:14
rukuartic_jason: Hehe I know...02:14
katarotarggh i disconnected my laptop from my router and then plug it into my actual modem and it works fine on xp but not with ubuntu whats wrong02:14
PuMpErNiCkLekfirb: it should... some programs have options for where they output text built-in02:14
smogWhat is the full path of iptables?02:15
isodudeYukiCuss: You got a friend called dapper ?02:15
_jasonkfirb: yes, recall that stderr will still go to your terminal though.  if you want to redirect both stdout and stderr, your would do &> isntead of > in bash02:15
YukiCussisodude, no, I was just kidding. :)02:15
kfirbhowever, I wish to detach it completly from the terminal it was ran in. (I actually wish to start remote bittorrent through ssh, and every now and then watch the progress from different computer)02:15
ITSa341IdleOne  I sometimes just sit here and bookmark a lot of the help links I see given in here for study later.02:15
IdleOneITSa341>  hehe what I meant was it's the Ubuntu way. Learn it once,do it once,teach it !02:15
isodudesmog: find /usr -name iptables02:15
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brennersmog: which <command>02:15
themachinewhat are some good wireless network tools?02:15
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whiterhello, something is wrong with my desktop...02:15
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whitermy trash disappeared and when i add stuff to it it doesnt display02:15
whiterthe icons go to the desktop folder but it doesnt actually show on the desktop02:16
Nameeaterkfirb: use screen02:16
isodudeYukiCuss: heh, ok. geez. not funny !02:16
themachineI'm on a latptop and I want to be able to see other networks02:16
isodudeethercap? =)02:16
rukuartic_jason: I got it installed... Still a little lost on what to do now...02:16
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YukiCussisodude, heh, sorry ><02:16
_jasonkfirb: yep, screen is perfect for what you want02:16
isodudeYukiCuss: it's late i'll forgive you :P02:16
kfirbnameeater: problem is, when I log off ssh sessions, I quit screen.02:16
__mikemI can't take this slow speed02:16
Nameeatershouldnt do02:16
YukiCussisodude, nup, early here!02:16
Nameeatero.O02:16
PuMpErNiCkLekfirb: Install detachtty02:17
intelikeymy "w" hurts.02:17
kfirbthen I have to close the process.. or is there a way to make it visible after I log off and log on from somewhere else02:17
_jasonrukuartic: can you create a simple rule?02:17
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rukuartic_jason: I know no XML...02:17
Nameeateryou have to reattach02:17
khafradmesg keeps giving me a keyboard error, several a second: .c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).02:17
_jasonrukuartic: did you read the forum tutorial?02:17
ITSa341Anyone here ever install Position? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036802:17
isodudeer, I don't have /ctcp02:17
isodude:O02:17
khafraWhat's up with that?02:17
kataroti know ubuntu recognises it because when i go to networks i see eth1 and i set my default gateway device to eth1 aswell02:18
_jasonkfirb: screen -r, will work if you only have one screen02:18
rukuartic_jason: Oh they have something on the forums? Adurrr... Do you have a link offhand?02:18
khafraI don't know what the key is.02:18
PuMpErNiCkLekhafra: try un'select'ing your numlock key02:18
_jasonubotu: tell rukuartic about devilspie02:18
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kfirb_jason: problem is, I wish to log off completely from where I start the process, therefore I must quit screen at some point.02:18
Brunelluswhere does epiphany keep its bookmark file?02:18
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isodudeYukiCuss: wonder what name dapper whould be a nickname for though02:18
isodudedaphny02:19
isodude:D02:19
_jasonkfirb: why do you have to quit screen?02:19
Nameeaterkfirb: you just dutatch02:19
Nameeaterdetatch*02:19
khafraPuMpErNiCkLe: Interesting.  No new errors so far--now, how can I use the numerical keypad without incurring hte errors?02:19
intelikeyhmmm my sudo hurts too.02:19
Xenguykfirb: -d02:19
Nameeaterand it keeps running and when you relogin you reattach to sceen02:19
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  sudo who02:19
intelikeysudo: unable to lookup concorde via gethostbyname()02:19
intelikeytty2 [root#~] 02:19
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ITSa341IdleOne  I'm almost Windows free, still running it side by side for the moment but not so bad since I am running it simultaneos and sharing one filesystem instead of dual booting. I can save in Win and access it in Linux and vice cersa02:19
_jasonkfirb: ctrl-a d, detaches02:19
intelikey?02:20
PuMpErNiCkLekhafra: not sure, I never bothered trying to _fix_ it myself :o)02:20
ITSa341versa**02:20
ocrsystemaalquien que hable espaol02:20
ocrsystem?02:20
Xenguyintelikey: /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname  ?02:20
rukuartic_jason: Oh geez man sorry, didn't see it02:20
kfirb_jason.. .ok, I'll try that.. thanks02:20
_jason!es02:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:20
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khafraPuMpErNiCkLe: Damn.  I hate the numbers above the alphabetical part.02:20
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intelikeyXenguy what about them ?02:20
_jasonintelikey: paste the first line in each of them02:20
khafraAh, well, thanks anyway02:20
Xenguyintelikey: causes ?02:20
katarotis there something i need to do before i get internet02:20
PuMpErNiCkLekhafra: It's still usable, it'll just keep spewing errors.02:20
djk_how do i install grub only without installing ubuntu?02:21
kfirbhow do I reattach ?02:21
_jasonkfirb: screen -r02:21
intelikey127.0.0.1 localhost02:21
PuMpErNiCkLekhafra: Which is the really odd part about it, but nothing I've actually tried to solve, yet.02:21
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  cat /etc/hostname02:21
intelikeyconcorde02:21
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khafraPuMpErNiCkLe: I thought it might be why my mouse stops responding and needs to be un-and re-plugged every now and then02:21
ocrsystemHello  somebody Spanish speech?02:21
FlannelKing!es02:22
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:22
intelikeythe first was the /etc/hosts  of course02:22
_jasonintelikey: change the first line in /etc/hosts to ``127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost concorde'', you may need to boot in recovery mode02:22
Xenguyintelikey: looks fine02:22
Xenguyintelikey: nm02:22
intelikey_jason is that change nessarry ?  i have no network, just dialup ?02:23
ocrsystemHello  somebody Spanish speech?02:23
kfirbok. so now it remains only a linux theoretical question for me, how to run the program silently, while it outputs to a file I can cat later...02:23
rukuartic_jason: I'm still kinda lost02:23
_jasonintelikey: for sudo to work it is02:23
rukuarticocrsystem: #ubuntu-es02:23
intelikeyok02:23
rukuarticocrsystem: :)02:23
Xenguyintelikey: I think you pasted /etc/hostname...02:23
Xenguyintelikey: /etc/hosts is more as _jason describes02:23
intelikeyok that fixed sudo02:23
intelikeybut my "who" still hutrs02:24
intelikeyhurts02:24
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whiterwow i need a little help02:24
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_jasonintelikey: are you using dapper?02:24
whiteri need to find out where these icons are02:24
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intelikeyno hoary02:24
Xenguyintelikey: my gawd, upgrade02:24
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intelikeytty2 [root#~]  sudo who02:24
intelikeytty2 [root#~] 02:24
_jasonrukuartic: about which part?02:24
rukuartic_jason: Hold up... Doing a bright thing and using google XD02:24
intelikeyXenguy no dialup.  not likely.02:24
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_jasonintelikey: you don't use sudo when you are root02:24
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whiter_jason im in /usr/share/gnome-app-install and i see 'Rhythmbox Music Player' and its using an icon that i want to know the location of02:25
whiteranyone know how?02:25
intelikey_jason ok then why does who not work ?02:25
Xenguyintelikey: I used to do that by dialup - just do it on a weekend at nights --  :-)02:25
intelikeytty1 [root#~]  who02:25
intelikeytty1 [root#~] 02:25
Xenguyer, works :-)02:25
_jasonintelikey: are you using dapper?02:25
nickrudwhiter: try locate <filename>02:25
intelikey5.402:25
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whiter...02:25
whiteri dont know what the filename is02:26
whiterhow am i supposed to locate02:26
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intelikey5.4 _jason02:26
Frogzoointelikey: what perms u have on /lib/libproc*02:26
intelikey75502:26
_jasonintelikey: hrmm, I asked because someone was reporting some problems on dapper earlier.  I don't know why who would not work02:26
TraceGreenhello, how can i make my fsck run less time when boot up?02:27
kfirbok, so how do I start a program in the back ground (I assume by adding & at the end), and then when I quit the bash which opened it, I want it to be independent of it.02:27
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Frogzoointelikey: strace who > /tmp/xx & pastebin02:27
intelikey_jason yes it is a problem only if you do the server install.02:27
nickrudwhiter, a moment, I'm on dapper, I need to check my breezy partition02:27
_jasonintelikey: oh02:27
capiCrimmif I have a path like /home/foo/bar is there a command I can use to see the permission of each folder(or do I just ls each one?)02:27
ITSa341Anyone here ever install Position ( http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/ ) ? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036802:27
whiterok nevermind i found it02:27
whiterits good...02:27
whiternow, can someone help me with my desktop02:27
whiterit wont show anything i do to it as far as icons02:28
whiterand it wont show my trash icon anymore02:28
FrogzoocapiCrimm: find . -type d -exec ls -ld {} \;02:28
katarotwhy is this not working if have connected it to the modem it works fine on xp but in ubuntu it still wont let me02:28
whiterand trash is selected in the configuration editor too02:28
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intelikeyFrogzoo empty file.02:29
akkAnyone know what's up with mysql 4.1? The server puts its socket at /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock, the mysql client wants to find it at /tmp/mysql.sock02:29
intelikeydo you want 2> xx ?02:29
Frogzoointelikey: maybe strace, too, is messed up...02:29
akkso I tried changing the server's config to use /tmp/mysql.sock, but then the client still doesn't work because mysqladmin is looking in /var/run02:29
Frogzoointelikey: you're not the only one with this problem, btw02:30
cafuegoakk: only if you perhaps edited .ny.cnf or are running an old client02:30
intelikeyno it outputs on screen  meanint it is stderr02:30
bimberiman strace02:30
katarotanyone got a dell inspiron 130002:30
intelikeymeaning02:30
akkcafuego: I have no /etc/my.conf02:30
Frogzoointelikey: oh, then 2>&1 sure02:30
kfirbis there a quick way to mount/burn .cue/.bin files ?02:30
cafuegoakk: I never mentioned /etc02:30
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cafuegokbrooks: bchunk -> iso -> mount; You cna burn them using 'cdrdao'.02:30
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akkcafuego: I have no ~/.my.conf either02:30
cafuegoakk: ~/.my.cnf02:31
intelikeywell no need for 1 it was blank remember :)02:31
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intelikey!paste02:31
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.02:31
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cafuegoakk: Using an older client, or a client linked against an older libmysqclient.so?02:31
akkman mysqladmin doesn't tell me where it's finding its config files02:31
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kbrookscafuego, ???02:31
childeHello. How do you play Flash on x86_64 machines?02:31
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cafuegokbrooks: kfirb02:31
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cafuegokfirb:  bchunk -> iso -> mount; You cna burn them using 'cdrdao'.02:32
akkcafuego: I seem to have all versions of libmysqlclient*-dev, but for the server and client I only have 4.1 (I think ... checking again)02:32
nickrudchilde: you don't, macromedia never released a 64bit player02:32
intelikeyFrogzoo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1036902:32
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cafuegochilde: Some flash(7) stuff plays using 'gplflash'.02:32
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whiteranyone?02:33
kfirbcafuego: can you supply more (a bit) details?02:33
punkrockguy318whiter: what was your question?02:33
khafraHey, if I'm getting sensord alarms every minute saying Chip it8712-isa-0290: -5V: -13.64 V (min = -5.26 V, max = -4.77 V) and  Chip it8712-isa-0290: -12V: -4.90 V (min = -12.63 V, max = -11.41 V), what did I do backwards?02:33
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whiteroh02:33
whitermy desktop wont update02:33
childecafuego: Is gplflahs also called gnash?02:33
khafraAnd should I be worried, since those are out of range anyway?02:33
cafuegokfirb: about what?02:33
whiterlike i put icons on the desktop but nothing changes02:33
Xenguypunkrockguy318: /lastlog whiter02:33
titaniumi'm trying to get synergy client to run when my system starts. i'm following the SynergyHowTo guide and i added the entry to my /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default but it isn't running.02:33
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kfirbmounting it,  what is bchunk ?02:34
whiterexcept in the /desktop folder02:34
kfirbdo I have to convert it to an iso first?02:34
punkrockguy318Xenguy: wow! i never knew about that feature02:34
naliothkfirb: binchunker converts bin/cue files into an .iso image02:34
cafuegokfirb: If you want to mount it, yes.02:34
nickrudwhiter: try killall gam_server02:34
cafuegokfirb: If you only want to write to to a disc, use cdrdao.02:34
Xenguypunkrockguy318: it's like a grep for IRC :-)02:34
djk_how big is a standard install of ubuntu?02:34
akkAny mysql experts who can tell me how to get mysqld, mysql, and mysqladmin all on the same page about where to put the socket?02:34
kataroti swear it is this laptop it dosent like ubuntu i cant use ndiswrapper so i connect it directly to my modem and go to networks and then i see it eth1 and i set it up as static ip and then i change my default gateway to eth1 but nothing no internet at all02:34
intelikeyFrogzoo ?02:34
punkrockguy318whiter: I'm pretty sure I've had that happen to me as well... Did you try logging out and logging back in?02:34
Ads_damn firefox really slows down my system can someone help? thanks02:34
cafuegodjk_: ~ 2GB02:34
whiteryea02:35
whiteri restarted it02:35
Frogzoointelikey: ls -l /var/run/utmp ?02:35
Juhazchilde, no, gplflash is older project, now mostly inactive and will be surpassed by gnash02:35
khafraWhat do voltage alarms mean to me, as a person who cares about my CPU life?02:35
intelikeynothing there02:35
ZeZuhow can i set the resolution of my second display independantly of the first?02:35
kfirbcafuego: thanks.02:35
ZeZuand make it use another workspace would be nice too02:35
punkrockguy318whiter: I'm not sure of a solution off hand.  I belive this has been fixed in Dapper, the next release.  DId you try searching the forums?  There may be a fix or workaround there?02:35
cafuegokhafra: Yiou get incorrect results on voltages because you didn't customise the sensors.conf file.02:35
Frogzoointelikey: ah, well I wonder why... - that's broken for sure02:36
whiterhavent searched yet02:36
whiteri will though02:36
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Frogzools -l /var/run   ?02:36
Frogzools -ld /var/run   ?02:36
intelikeytty2 [root#~]  ls -ld /var/run02:36
intelikeydrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Mar 16 19:34 /var/run02:36
khafracafuego: Thanks--are they incorrect, just reversed?  Or are they incorrect and probably not out of range, too?02:36
punkrockguy318whiter: that would be your best bet02:36
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cafuegokhafra: Well, at best sensors stuff tends to be wildly inaccurate; yours looks reversed too :-)02:37
kfirbcafuego: do you know what's the package name to install in synaptic?02:37
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cafuegokfirb: bchunk02:38
whiterone more question02:38
kethinovhi all, i just borked a dapper system by installing hotplug. now none of my usb works, nor does my network card... what can i do?02:38
whiteri want to go to /home/thomas/.icons02:38
whiterfrom within one of those menu things02:38
geinercual es la ultima actualizacion de linux ubuntu02:38
whiterbut the folder is hidden02:38
ihatetripeHi everyone. Quick question. Does anyone know of any application that can rescue data from knackered CDs/DVDs? Preferably with a GUI. Thanks!02:38
khafracafuego: Are there any handy-dandy guides, perhaps by motherboard, chipset, or whatever's applicable, to calibrating the sensors?02:38
titaniumhow can i get Synergy to run when my ubuntu system starts? i tried running it in etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default but it didn't start. i know it's configured and working because if i connect to my ubuntu system with NXclient and start synergyc from there, THEN it works.02:38
childeJuhaz: OK, then where can I get a x86_64 version of Gnash for Ubuntu?02:38
kfirbcafuego: and 10x again02:38
whiterand the only way i know how to show hidden folders is through nautil02:38
bimberiwhiter: ctrl-H02:39
khafraOr is there any better way to figure out if my cpu is overheating?02:39
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whiterctrl+h only works in the file manager02:39
punkrockguy318whiter: ctrl-H02:39
bimberiwhiter: ah, thought you were using nautilus sorry02:39
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whiteryea, im in the "Select File" thing02:39
Overandis there an easy way to get a 'classic' style (bitmapped) terminal font ala 'terminal' on win32 or 'Linux' in Konsole?02:39
nickrudwhiter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/1342802:39
cafuegokhafra: See if another user with the same mobo has anything via google.02:39
Juhazchilde, they haven't made a release yet, so unless you want to check a pre-alpha version out of cvs...02:39
intelikeyFrogzoo ?02:39
benjianyone got a copy oof the super grub disk (ISO)?02:40
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punkrockguy318whiter: right click and click show hidden files02:40
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Frogzoointelikey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-134418.html   .... doesn't look promising...02:40
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benjianyone got a copy of the super grub disk (ISO) or know where i can get one from?02:41
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ITSa341can anyone here help me install Position ( http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/ ) ? I get nothing but errors when running "make install".   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036802:41
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whyamiif I want to prevent the pcspkr module from loading on boot, what should I do?02:41
whiteralrighty02:42
whiternow to the desktop02:42
whiterheh02:42
jeff_Is anyone running a tablet here?02:42
ZarephathHow do I change me default assigned UID from 1000 to 501..I have a different hard drive mounted and I can't get into certain folders02:42
Protocol1where do I go about editing my time?02:42
childeJuhaz: I think I will give up02:42
intelikeyFrogzoo made utmp with 664 no help.02:42
whiterand the other issue is fixed02:43
whiterwow ok02:43
Protocol1my time changes in windows when I come from ubuntu02:43
childeJuhaz: Anyway, it's just a site with a Flash movie as it's frontpage. I want to skip the Flash to the real page02:43
PuMpErNiCkLewhyami: Possibly adding it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist will do it.02:43
rukuartic_jason: I got it to work :D02:43
_jasonrukuartic: great02:43
rukuartic_jason: so how do I move my window now I got rid of the titles? :P02:43
Frogzoointelikey: utmp only gets written at login02:43
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_jasonrukuartic: hold down alt and drag02:44
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rukuartic_jason: resize?02:44
cafuego!info squeak02:44
_jasonrukuartic: hold down alt and middle click drag I think02:44
whyamiPuMpErNiCkLe: thanks. I'll try it.02:44
intelikeyyep good call. Frogzoo  that did it.02:44
Frogzoointelikey: but don't know who clobbered the file in the 1st place - needs to get fixed02:45
Protocol1!time02:45
ubotuProtocol1: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:45
rukuartic_jason: Mmmm... nope.02:45
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benjianyone got a copy of the super grub disk (ISO)???...somone has to have it02:45
Protocol1!date02:45
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Protocol102:45
_jasonrukuartic: nope to both?02:45
tritiumnever heard of it, benji02:45
V4Vendettacan anyone tell me why no matter what color i select in gimp it always comes out grey ?02:45
whiterok now02:45
whiteranyone know how to get my trash applet back on the desktop?02:45
themachineI cant figure out why I can't install grub nor Lilo to my MBR. any idea why?02:45
intelikeyFrogzoo indeed.   could it be that what ever makes that file is not in the server install ?02:45
cafuegoProtocol1: Windows is set to the local timezone, Ubuntu is set to UTC.02:45
Frogzoobenji: super grub disk? wtf?  do you mean RIP (which has grub?)02:45
themachinethe BIOS MBR02:46
rukuartic_jason: Yep02:46
V4Vendettahow do i stop gimp from opening something greyscale ????/02:46
|mp|how can you chck which bios version you are using from within ubuntu?02:46
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katarotokay please help me  i have connected my laptop directly to my modem and yet still no internet02:46
intelikeyand here is a bug. (imo)   top will run for user but not for root.  it will run for sudo but not for root.  if that is tno a bug in top i'll eat your hat.02:47
tritiumkatarot: DSL modem?  Actiontec from Qwest?02:47
rukuartickatarot: Is it a winmodem?02:47
Frogzoointelikey: uname is always part of the base install for any nix02:47
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_jasonrukuartic: there is an option somewhere for the modifier key, one sec02:47
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wastrelubuntu02:47
katarotemm i got it with broadband02:47
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intelikeyFrogzoo is that what makes /var/run/utmp ?02:47
Frogzoointelikey: either that, or it should get created automatically on a login, by getty or whatever02:47
benjiFrogzoo the wiki page i am l;ooking at talks of an unofficial Linix super grub disk that will recover ubuntu after installing windows02:47
khafracafuego: Nothing I could decipher, but the acpi temperature reporter and xmbmon seem to work ok, unlike lm-sensors--is there any drawback to just using those?02:48
katarotbut i know it is there because when i go to networks i see eth102:48
benjican RIP do that?02:48
Protocol1cafuego, do you know how I can go about fixing this02:48
rukuartic_jason: Oh the price I pay for looking cool...02:48
rukuartic_jason: Eating up memory/CPU...02:48
lsaldanyone hear of progress with lightscribe compatibility?02:48
_jasonrukuartic: system > prefs > window prefs, bottom choice02:48
intelikeyi think both of those will write to it but both depend on it already being there Frogzoo02:48
tritiumkatarot: is it an Actiontec or not?  Who is your broadband provider?  Qwest?02:48
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rukuartic_jason: XFCE... :P02:48
katarottelewest02:48
_jasonrukuartic: hrmm devilspie worked on xfce?02:49
kataroti dont think it is an actiontec02:49
Frogzoobenji: in fact - any disk with grub on it allow you (if you know how) to boot ubuntu & then you just run install-grub /dev/hdx02:49
intelikeyFrogzoo isn't there a command to see what package created a file ?02:49
_jasondoes xfce use metacity?02:49
rukuartic_jason: Yep... its a gnome program I'm runnin' it on XD02:49
katarothow can i tell02:49
rukuartic_jason: IDK...02:49
Frogzoointelikey: apt-file - which seems to be broken for me atm02:49
cafuegoProtocol1: Set Ubuntu to set the system clock to local time; not UTC. There's a config file for that soemwhere under /etc I think.02:49
intelikeyme check02:49
tritiumkatarot: the reason I ask is that its DHCP server doesn't properly set dns servers, so you have to prepend or supersede them in the dhcp client config files02:49
_jasonrukuartic: I guess that's why... you are going to have to ask the xfce'ers in the crowd about moving windows02:49
rukuartic_jason: thanks :)02:50
benjifrogzoo: i tried that but it gave keeps telling me there is no corasponding bios drive02:50
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intelikeyinstalling apt-file now.02:50
khafraooh. Except that acpi polling's disabled.  Still, xmbmon seems to be ok, if a little confused about which temp is which02:50
katarottritium: how would i do that02:50
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Ads_is it normal for firefox to eat up my system resources?02:51
khafraAnd a little confused about what the actual temperature is. ARGH.02:51
Xenguyintelikey: apt-file update && apt-file search blah02:51
Xenguyintelikey: sudo02:51
Frogzoobenji: what are your /boot /   disks?02:51
intelikeyXenguy k but sudo is redundant02:52
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Xenguyintelikey: RAID is yer friend (if that is true :-)02:52
tritiumkatarot: well, we're not sure that's your problem yet, but you'd edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (man dhclient for details)02:52
whiter/apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible is set to true so my trash icon should show up on the desktop right?02:52
whiterit doesnt tho, anyone know how to get it back on the desktop?02:52
nickrudAds_: yes, it can be a resource hog, depending on what pages you have open02:52
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Ads_nickrud: is there a way around it? cos it totally slows down my keyboard input and mouse too02:52
benji/dev/sda2 is the installation (i think) and sda1 is the boot (agin i think) but have tried hda0/1/2/3 and sda0/1/202:53
nickrudAds_: I never had it get that bad02:53
Protocol1where the configuration file to adjust my time?02:53
Ads_nickrud: i get it really bad :( it slows down my whole system man02:53
katarottritium: i set it up in network so does that not mean that i should work02:53
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intelikeyraid ?02:53
nickrudProtocol1: right click the clock in the top right, select adjust02:53
tritiumkatarot: you can setup a network, and still not have DNS configured properly02:54
wastrelProtocol1:  man date02:54
katarotohhh ok i will go and boot02:54
intelikeyhehhe Xenguy you are so funny :)   can't raid a single 610m hdd   :)02:54
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katarotup ubuntu02:54
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katarottritium: how do i know what to change02:55
Ads_whats the minimum sys reqs for ubuntu anyone?02:55
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_jasonAds_: 128mb ram and 1.8gb of hard drive space according to the install cd's sleeve02:55
SoulPropagationAnd about a PIII-50002:55
zFHow do I remove the Harddrive Volume from my desktop02:56
tritiumkatarot: we need to figure out if DNS is the problem before you try to change anything02:56
Ads__jason: then that means there is something horribly wrong with my installation of ubuntu dammit!!!02:56
cafuegoAds_: For the server, P90 wth 64Mb and up, I'd hazard.02:56
_jasonAds_: ?02:56
Ads__jason: almost anything i do hogs the cpu and ram02:56
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_jasonAds_: what are your specs?02:56
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SoulPropagationA PII-400 128mb runs Server like magic02:56
intelikeyAds_ i installed it here on 250m hdd  32m ram  p1mmx 100mhz    i don't know the minimum.02:56
cafuegoAds_: and what are you running? Gnome?02:56
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Frogzoointelikey: from man utmp 'Neither of these programs creates the file, so if it is removed, record-keeping is turned off.02:56
Frogzoointelikey: so there you go :)02:57
_jasonzF: system tools > configuration editor, apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible, or something similar02:57
Ads__jason: i'm running on my laptop of 265mb ram, 2.4ghz centrino, 128mb vram, 80gb hdd02:57
katarotim sorry i dont get how i would even know if it not correct02:57
nickrudintelikey you are a masochist02:57
Ads_cafuego: yes i am running gnome02:57
whitermy my, anyone know how to get the trash applet on the desktop02:57
_jasonintelikey: how does that run for you?02:57
cafuegoAds_: Yes, 256Mb ram is not great.02:57
zF_jason, where is System tools?02:57
_jasonAds_: try xubuntu02:57
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kfirbfor some reason, bchunk, has made 2 small files out of the image cd I have just finished downloading. does this mean the .cue .bin files I dled were fake? maybe I misused bchunk?02:58
FlannelKinghey, anyone know if the Automatix guy has released the source?02:58
_jasonzF: in applications menu02:58
cafuegoAds_: Is that vram shared or actual?02:58
Ads_actual02:58
intelikeyFrogzoo yes.  case solved on that end,  but now the case of "why utmp was missing" is the sluths quarry02:58
_jasonFlannelKing: it's a bash script02:58
Ads_cafuego: thing is i can run xp pro on the same laptop no slowdowns at all02:58
intelikey_jason pretty good.   i listen to ogg files chat here do email  serf web.... that's about all i do on this box.02:59
FlannelKing_jason: so, that's a yes then?  heh.  Was just wondering why he uses root account instead of sudo.02:59
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deviansi seem to have a rather serious problem02:59
SoulPropagationhow do you stop the shift-bksp zap?02:59
nickrudAds_: you may not have dma enabled ; see !dma to check02:59
deviansuseradd on this ubuntu server install no longer works02:59
deviansany ideas?02:59
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_jasonFlannelKing: I believe the latest versions no longer enable root.  just download the file and open it in a text editor02:59
Ads_nickrud: i'll check02:59
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NickGarveydevians: how does it fail?03:00
deviansdoesnt return an error, but then, doesnt ask for details or password or anything, doesnt create a home dir etc etc03:00
Xenguydevians: yeah, and what have you been changing lately ?  :-)03:00
intelikeyads_ _jason one thing i might point out i do disable all the automatic crap.  no udev no hotplug.... and so forth.03:00
Ads_nickrud: dma is enabled03:00
deviansand i havent changed a thing03:00
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NickGarveydevians: the user is made, use usermod to change properties03:00
NickGarveydevians: same thing happens with me and I don't know why03:00
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deviansgrrr03:00
intelikeycafuego i'd say no.03:01
NickGarveynever bothered looking into it though03:01
Ads_intelikey: care to mention the unucesssary crap so i may kill it?03:01
deviansits already a 10min process to setup a user, gotta be a way to fix it03:01
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AzzkickerHOW TO: Boot Windows XP on Intel Based Mac's *Instructions Inside*03:01
AzzkickerHOW TO: http://www.steaknbj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8303:01
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Xenguydevians: I believe you, but sure sounds like something's changed :-)03:01
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katarottritium: how would i know if dns  is the problem03:01
NickGarveydevians: when you make the user type "useradd -d /home/user -s /bin/bash username03:01
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NickGarveythats all I do03:01
FlannelKing_jason: ah, so, are there any other 'bad things' about automatix?03:01
nickruddevians: try adduser03:01
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_jasonFlannelKing: nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html03:02
cafuegoSPAM: vsiti http://some.url for info unrelated to this channel03:02
Toma-FlannelKing: you dont learn anything from it.03:02
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tritiumkatarot: can you please describe the problem in more detail?03:02
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intelikeyAds_ the list is in /etc/init.d/   but you need to know what part of that is essential for your system.    a good recovery disk is sujested.03:02
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zF_jason, I can't find it anywhere.03:02
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deviansthanks nickrud03:03
shiv-gnomeMy GAIM minimize to system tray does not work. I have the plugin enabled. What am I doing wrong?03:03
Ads_intelikey: thanks i will give it a check03:03
_jasonzF: what version of ubuntu?03:03
NickGarveynickrud: you are a genius03:03
zFDapper03:03
NickGarvey:-P03:03
katarotwell i plug my laptop into my modem and the i go to system > administation > networks03:03
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zFI want to keep it mounted I just don't want that desktop icon.03:03
_jasonzF: run gconf-editor from a terminal, they removed the menu item in dapper iirc03:03
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deviansnext question. when i make a user account, i usually have to make a heap of dirs in their home directory and do some mount --binding. is there a way to setup different user making scripts to automate it?03:03
katarotand then i see the new eth1 and i go and set my static  ip which i got from windows ipconfig03:03
zFPerfect, _jason. I got it, thanks.03:04
wastreldevians:  anything you put in /etc/skel  is copied to a new user directory IIRC03:04
FlannelKingToma-: oh, I already know how to install most of the stuff, I only use ubuntu as a server anyway.03:05
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NickGarveyI can't seem to stop ubuntu from booting into a GUI03:05
katarotand then go on and set the eth1 as my default gateway device and when i click on fire fox i type in www.google.com it says it doesent exist03:05
Toma-ok03:05
johhny_banyone here new to linux?03:05
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Kanalalme03:05
johhny_bKanalal: you are?03:05
wastrelNickGarvey:  sudo apt-get remove gdm (or other display manager?)03:05
johhny_bKanalal: did you find it easy?03:05
Kanalalhmmn03:05
Kanalalsome of it03:05
NickGarveywastrel: I still want it because I plan to forward X11 over ssh onto my windows machine03:05
devianswastrel, i have multiple types of accounts, i was thinking more of a script(s) that would take a username and password as an argument?03:06
katarotso i try downloading a different brower and it says unable to connect to archives.ubuntu03:06
johhny_bKanalal: how long have you been using linux?03:06
Kanalaljohhny_b: i started using a month or so ago03:06
katarottritium: that is exactly what i do03:06
htrphow am i gon be able to download 'multiverse' packages?03:06
htrpshould i edit source.list?03:06
tritiumkatarot: doesn't your DSL model have a dhcp server?03:06
wastreldevians:  not that i know of, might have to roll your own.03:07
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ORTALDJ/server vse.no.ip.info03:07
johhny_bKanalal: are you new to computors or have you used them much before?03:07
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deviansack, another thing to learn :P03:07
nickrud!tell htrp about sources03:07
wastrelNickGarvey:  so you don't want X starting when you boot but you want it running at all other times?03:07
katarotim not sure will i try and connect using the dhcp03:07
momojoneswhy do embedded videos in firefox not play embedded but open up in a new window03:07
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johhny_bKanalal: cos i my windows box is filled with virusses and stuff like that03:07
nickrudhtrp: that msg from ubotu has some breezy sources03:07
Kanalaljohhny_b: im a student, im doing programming at uni, ive used computers for a while now, im just new to linux03:07
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beleahow can i know whene my disto was installed..03:07
beleawith which command ?03:07
beleatx03:07
johhny_boh ok03:07
Frogzooso apt-file doesn't work for me anymore (breezy) - eg 'apt-file list '/usr/bin/ls'   returns nothing03:07
NickGarveywastrel: yes, when I boot I want it to be text mode, but I want to be able to start X onto another display03:07
johhny_bi am looking for someone who hasent used computors that much03:08
Kanalalah not me then03:08
wastrelNickGarvey:  you can use update-rc.d to tell gdm not to start on boot... then start it manually whenever03:08
johhny_b:)03:08
katarottritium: i will go and boot up ubuntu and try it with dhcp03:08
johhny_bKanalal: are the network things hard to setup?03:08
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NickGarveyalright, I changed inittab to runtime 3 but the GUI still goes03:08
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pwwI am debugging a problem synching a PalmV over a serial port. No messages in syslog, etc.03:09
tritiumNickGarvey: wastel gave you sage advice.  Please follow it.  There are details in the debian reference on how to do that, if you care to read it03:09
kethinovi just upgraded to dapper and the menu editor doesn't appear to be capable of performing any menu editing anymore... what's going on?03:09
tritiumok, katarot03:09
bimberidevians: this looks promising, from 'man adduser' - "If the file /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local exists, it will be executed after the user account has been set up in order to do any local setup"03:09
katarotbrb03:09
pwwCan anyone suggest debugging/monitoring/logging tools that might help me out?03:09
Kanalaljohhny_b: well i had to remove the restricted modules to update my graphics driver, and that buggered up the wireless, but i got it fixed pretty quick03:09
beleawastrel,  i know u are a smart guy..  can u tell me how can i know..  when my distro was installed ?03:09
Ads_intelikey: thanks a lot man03:09
_jasonFrogzoo: apt-file search filename, apt-file list packagename03:09
naliothkethinov: #ubuntu+1 is for dapper help and discussion03:09
belealike in windows..  systeminfo..   i see the date..  when it was installed ?03:09
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intelikeyAds_ my list of startup 'init' links   enjoy  :)03:10
beleaon ubuntu ?03:10
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wastrelbelea:  look in /var/log/install maybe ?03:10
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beleanot a simply command ?03:10
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johhny_bKanalal: what about firewalls and such are they much harder then windows?03:10
johhny_bimo they where a problem for me in windows03:10
Kanalalno linux is much safer anyway03:11
johhny_bor do you even need a firewall in linux?03:11
Kanalalfirewalls are pretty easy to set up03:11
johhny_bok03:11
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Kanalalyeah id say so03:11
pwwjohhny_b A FW is always a good idea, even with Linux03:11
johhny_bpww: ok03:11
wastrelbelea:  there's no command that does that as far as i know.  ls -l /var/log/installer/  may give you an idea- those files should have been created during install and not changed since03:11
glm2kyou need a firewall on anything that's connected to the world wide wait03:11
volcom_b0iuninstall wget, I had a hacker use apache php support to try and wget a file and to chmod it with apache :).03:11
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beleawastrel thx03:11
Kanalalid say virus checkers are optional if you arent running a server or anything, but make sure you have a firewall03:12
intelikeyAds_ i should have mentioned also that dialup is the only network on this box.  that helps the boot time considerably.  and improves performance, though less noticably.03:12
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tritiumfirewall _if_ you have ports open03:12
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Ads_intelikey: thanks03:12
naliothfirewalls are unnecessaary in a default ubuntu install03:12
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tritiumyes ^^^03:13
kdittycan someone help me with a windows to linux networking question? im trying to shar a folder from my windows xp machine, to my linux pc. i set the folder as shared on XP and then i followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently under share unprotected folders, but nothing shows up in my mounted /share folder03:13
Kanalalyeah, but who keeps the default congig?03:13
zFKanalal, what about a firewall on the router?03:13
Kanalal*config03:13
tritiumKanalal: many users03:13
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pwwzF That's what I have, works great. FW on router means having many fewer worries....03:13
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KanalalzF yeah i have a hardware firewall03:14
zFIf I had an httpd, sshd and an ircd running on a machine connected to a wireless router that has a software firewall, should I also run firestarter?03:14
naliothzF: firestarter IS a software firewall03:14
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Frogzoo_jason: apt-file search /usr/bin/ls  returns nothing, same for apt-file list dpkg - strace shows missing directory /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.3 - is this needed?03:14
zFnalioth, yes.03:14
FlannelKing_jason: thanks for the link on the comparison, was wondering about doing something exactly like EasyUbuntu.03:14
pwwzF wireless router? Have you correctly hid SSID and correctly configured WAP?03:14
beleahub:~# ls -l /var/log/installer03:14
beleals: /var/log/installer: No such file or directory03:14
beleano what ?03:15
belea*now03:15
belea:(03:15
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dunefanevening!03:15
intelikeyKanalal only the |337 *nix geeks change their configs, haven't you noticed :  :)03:15
tritiumzF: I'd be more concerned with your wireless network being compromised than your ubuntu box03:15
zFpww, it's WPA'd with a password that would take 50 years to brute force.03:15
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Kanalalintelikey: XD03:15
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tritiumzF: unfortunately, that's not the case03:16
pwwzF Good. A lot of people forgot that part. SSH still a good idea, WAP is slightly busted03:16
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zFYeah03:16
zFIt's more of just a project server that I keep around for testing03:16
NickGarveyWEP anyone can crack03:16
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zFThrough up a shoutcast server for friends, httpd for xfers, ect.03:16
AmaranthNickGarvey: not true03:16
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_jasonFrogzoo: strange... I don't know enough about it to help you.  But I don't have that file myself and my apt-file works03:16
pwwRight WEP, not WAP. Ooops. Had my head somewhere else....03:16
dunefanI would like to install kde in Ubuntu....I type sudo apt-get install kde-desktop and I get the following message..."couldn't find package kde-desktop"...any suggestions???03:16
KanalalNickGarvey: where i live most people cant spell WEP let alone crack it, so i think im safe03:17
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AmaranthNickGarvey: with new non-crappy hardware WEP is secure03:17
naliothdunefan: it's "kubuntu-desktop"03:17
Quinn_Stormdunefan: yeah its kubuntu-desktop03:17
dunefanthanks!!!!03:17
AmaranthNickGarvey: because they don't give you as many weak packets03:17
TrentWhat is a very good, easy to use, ftp client.  (Drag and drop would be appreciated)03:18
pwwAmaranth Don't know about that, WEP has fundamental weaknesses AFAICR03:18
Trent?03:18
Amaranthpww: nope03:18
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NickGarveyAmaranth: yes, but over time some is too many, especially if you are in a business with a lot of people using wireless03:18
katarotit worked03:18
intelikeygftp Trent   but i like ncftp.03:18
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tritiumkatarot: :)03:19
NickGarveydon't get me wrong, I use WEP because thats why I need for my nintendo DS, but I just know it isn't the strongest thing around03:19
katarotyeah im on xchat lol thanks03:19
AmaranthNickGarvey: i can't remember which conference, but someone was scanning for almost the entire conference (network was WEP) and got about 11 weak packets03:19
katarottritium thank you so much03:19
tritiumof course, katarot03:19
AmaranthNickGarvey: that's a huge number of geeks using their laptops the whole time for a couple days03:19
NickGarveyhow many do you need to crack it? I have never tried03:19
Amaranthat least 20 with kismac03:19
Amaranthbut 20 won't get you far03:20
wastrelairsnort manual has a good rundown on cracking wep03:20
pwwAmaranth Read http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html, there are fundamental flaws due to use of stream cipher. None of these rely on weak keys03:20
Amaranthunless you're lucky03:20
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pwwAmaranth See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_cipher_attack03:21
wastrelhttp://airsnort.shmoo.com/03:21
Amaranthpww: i know, it's because with a 24-bit IV you're eventually going to get repeats03:22
Amaranthpww: apparently they found a way to fix this (larger IV?)03:22
wastreli have an 8 bit key heh03:22
wastrelor something :] 03:22
volcom_b0iMac filtering can help.  I don't broadcast either.03:22
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pwwAmaranth WPA fixes the problem by "changing the "master" key frequently" (quote from TFA on wikipedia)03:23
Amaranthpww: meh03:23
intelikeybrb03:23
wastrel40 bit, :] 03:23
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tritiumvolcom_b0i: no, your Mac ID can be discovered with packet sniffing03:24
volcom_b0itritium: bummer03:24
gimmulf_Hi, everytime i reboot i need to run "sudo dhclient" to get my dhcp internet connection running, this was after i started to mess with ppoe which i never got to work so now i always need to run dhclient to get it working, it work perfectly before i started to mess with ppoe, how do i get it back so dhcp loads during boot?03:24
tritiumDon't rely on mac filtering03:24
pwwAmaranth I should eat my own dogfood and buy a WPA/WPA2 wireless router....03:24
Amaranthpww: 802.11i?03:24
Frogzoogimmulf_: you need to get your /etc/network/interfaces right03:25
benjifrogzoo: any ideas03:25
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pwwAmaranth Well, something newer than the 3+ year-old .11b box I have (and 4+ year old .11b ASUS card)03:25
Amaranthpww: 802.11i is 802.11g with WPA2 mandated, appearently03:26
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  i was playing with that when i wanted to use dhcp after the ppoe try and this is how it looks like now: http://pastebin.com/60671403:26
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gimmulf_Frogzoo:  i removed the ppoe stuff from there and added the stuff there is now03:26
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benjihow do you  mount the root (/) partition of ubuntu from ubuntu live?03:26
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pwwAmaranth That looks right. Of course, I don't even have .11g right now... ...I'm cheap03:27
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  and i took my my /network/interfaces stuff from an example i found03:27
shiv-gnomeMy GAIM minimize to system tray does not work. I have the plugin enabled. What am I doing wrong?03:27
cpitzakwhat is the difference between breezy and drapper03:27
lsaldcpitzak, just about every package03:28
lsaldcpitzak, and the new installer03:28
techrushwhat plugin is it that enables that shiv-gnome i need that03:28
Ads_anyone mind telling me why ubuntu shuts down my system instead when i choose to "reboot"? not all the time but mostly03:28
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pwwcpitzak 6 months of work, a lot of polish, more things that just work03:28
Paper183Ads_: probably hardware problem03:29
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  doesnt it look correct?03:29
Paper183Ads_: not sure tho03:29
englaAds_: is it a laptop?03:29
Ads_engla: yes03:29
shiv-gnometechrush: its the system tray icon plugin, mine is enabled still not working03:29
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techrushhmm03:29
techrushi dont see it in synaptic whats the package name exactly im sorry03:29
Amaranthok, wireless communication is way too complex for me03:30
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Amaranthi think 802.11n is going to jump channels somewhat randomly03:30
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juliohy03:31
pwwAmaranth You should look up Aloha-net: TCP/IP over HAM radio, many moons ago....03:31
julioim new on ubuntu03:31
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Amaranthpww: heard of it03:31
Amaranthpww: it's unidirectional03:31
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julioand i cant play an mp303:31
NickGarvey!mp303:31
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:31
pwwAmaranth Low bit rates, latency problems, etc., but it worked. There are geeks, then there are *geeks*.03:31
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juliook ill read it , thanks03:32
Amaranthtechrush: never heard of it03:32
NickGarveyno problem03:32
Frogzoogimmulf_: u do have /usr/local/sbin/map-scheme ?03:32
Amaranthtechrush: and google hasn't either03:32
techrushthere has to be a way though03:32
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  no :)03:32
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  should i remove thoose 4 lines?03:33
gimmulf_Frogzoo:  i dont think i have eth1 either03:33
gimmulf_just eth003:33
tritium!tell gimmulf_ about enter03:33
Amaranthtechrush: you have to explain what it is03:33
welkinerTrying to install Flight 5 to hd, but Grub install fails every time, help03:33
Amaranthtechrush: it must have another name03:33
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gimmulf_tritium:  sorry :)03:33
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Frogzoogimmulf_: do you use the mapping at all? or you just want eth0 to dhcp at boot & that's it ?03:34
tritiumno worries, gimmulf_ :)03:34
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gimmulf_Frogzoo:  thats it03:34
Amaranthtechrush: oh, shiv-gnome is someone's name :P03:34
gimmulf_no mapping (sorry for enter)03:34
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nidahhi03:34
nidahneed some info on xchat prog03:35
chromakodenidah: what info?03:35
pwwnidah, so far so good, you're chatting... ...what do you need to know?03:35
Amaranthtechrush: the minimize-to-tray gaim extension should come with gaim03:35
techrushyes it does come with gaim but gaim still wont minimize to tray03:35
techrush:/03:36
techrushmaybe i dont have a "tray"03:36
nidahok the previous verion had open dialogue and open direct chat auto option which this one doesnt03:36
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chromakodenidah: are we talking xchat-gnome?03:36
wastrelyou have to add a tray to the gnome panel maybe03:36
cpitzakis drapper the lastest beta's etc... and brizzy is the stable ?03:36
Frogzoogimmulf_: replace with this: http://pastebin.com/606723   & reboot03:36
nidahim using gnome ubuntu i think03:36
wastrelthe tray is just another panel applet03:36
welkinerHas anyone installed Dapper live-cd Flight 5 to hd?03:36
gimmulf_thanks Frogzoo03:36
wastrelcpitzak:  yes03:36
DemonHeadxHello03:36
juliois sudo just for ubunto or for all distribution?03:37
Paper183Question, is there any application on linux that runs mirc scripts ? mirc has some problems in wine...03:37
DemonHeadxI need some help, i want to test out ubuntu on my Mac, but when i use the Live cd, it doesn't start.03:37
tritiumwelkiner: yes.  Please ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+103:37
pwwnidah I tried xchat-gnome, found it hard to configure, hard to get started. xchat seems friendlier03:37
Amaranthtechrush: gnome has a tray03:37
wastreljulio:  most distros should have sudo available03:37
nidahthe q is re this new xchat versio which doesnt have some of the stuff old versio did03:37
chromakodenidah: I'm not sure I remember what the direct chat did... was it p2p? I think gnome-xchat tones lots of the options down... you might want to use regular xchat then03:37
Amaranthtechrush: it's up by the clock03:37
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gimmulf_Frogzoo:  allow-hotplug eth1  <-- should i really have that eth1 stuff? i think i just have eth003:37
welkinerok03:37
pwwjulio sudo runs under many Linuxen and Unixen03:37
nidahusing xchat2.6.003:37
Frogzoogimmulf_: you might need it later - but you can remove it03:38
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gimmulf_Frogzoo:  whats it for?03:38
gimmulf_probing for another network card?03:38
cpitzakwho runs drapper and likes it?03:38
juliothanks03:38
Frogzoogimmulf_: yep, via usb03:38
_jason!dapper03:38
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion03:38
gimmulf_oki thanks03:38
pwwcpitzak Me! Been running dapper since flight203:38
Frogzooany ideas for this one?: apt-file --verbose search ls03:38
FrogzooD: got 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted': Bad file descriptor03:39
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nidahthe thing is xchat 2.6 doesnt have some of the stuff previous xchat version had03:39
DemonHeadxCan anyone help me out? I have 3 cds of ubuntu. the pc version the mac version and the 64 version. I insert the mac live CD on my Mac, and i shutdown and turn it on. but it doesn't start03:39
DemonHeadxis there something i do?03:39
cuenthis is my first time in this chatroom......i was wondering if anyone can help me setup a wpa connection with dapper flight 503:39
DogWaterAnyone ever got X working on a Dell Inspiron 6400 /w Intel i945g?03:39
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tritiumDemonHeadx: do you hold down the "c" key while booting?03:39
chromakodenidah: I'm not sure. You can always revert if you like.03:39
DemonHeadxNo i don't press anything03:39
Frogzoocuen: for dapper -> #ubuntu+103:39
bimberi!wpa03:39
ubotuwpa is, like, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details03:39
nidahhow can i revert?03:39
DemonHeadxbut is that all i need to do to start the live cd?03:39
NickGarveyDemonHeadx: assuming holding down c boots from the CD, yes03:40
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chromakodenidah: well hang on one second, are there two xchat entries in your Internet menu?03:40
DemonHeadxOh, i never knew that.03:40
DemonHeadxWell i'll be back in about 5 mins, see if that works =D Thanks for the help really apriciate it.03:40
nidaheh no03:40
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nidahall i have is Xchat IRC03:41
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chromakodenidah: hmm. ok.03:41
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spongebobhi.  automatix won't download, says connection refused when I type the first command, wget03:42
nidah:(03:42
wastrel!automatix03:42
ubotuit has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.03:42
chromakodenidah: I haven't messed   with Xchat for a while, sorry.03:42
wastrel!tell spongebob about easyubuntu03:42
nidahi prefered the older xchat ersion to this one03:42
spongebobthanks i'll try that :)03:43
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chromakodenidah: well, I'm surprised they would just remove options.03:43
nidahthe prob arises in other clients like dalnt it doesnt pen dialgues automatically03:43
nidahi can remove not revert03:43
chromakodenidah:  are you comfortable with command line?03:44
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nidahnot really but i can follow it i hope03:44
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spongebobepia 800 is slowww, hehehe.  building an NES PC with ubuntu03:44
chromakodenidah: ok.03:44
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phaedraltalk me into going ubuntu instead of debian testing, please,03:45
NsOmNiAccan anyone point me to a working guide to upgrading Englightenment 16 to 17 under Ubuntu?03:46
silvaranI don't think e17 is available in the repositories.03:46
phaedralfer instance, can ubuntu handle partitioning my ntfs harddrive?03:46
keishinI have yet another total newb problem :(  I somehow managed to break everything that requires sudo/gksudo auth.  And my password is echoed in the terminal now =\03:46
cpitzakcan't i just get the /sources.list of one of you who run drapper and then run an apt-get dist-upgrade03:46
_jason!upgrade03:47
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.03:47
wastrelphaedral:  testing breaks, ubuntu stable is fresher but stable03:47
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silvarancpitzak: replace all instances of "breezy" with "dapper", then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade03:47
wastrelfresher than debian stable03:47
phaedralwastrel: cool; was talking with Chodder the other day, suggested going straight to dapper03:47
phaedralis that 5.10?03:47
wastrelhaven't tried dapper, but that will break, it's "testing"  5.10 is breezy/stable03:48
silvaranAhhh dist-upgrader, forgot about that.03:48
phaedralroger03:48
wastrelphaedral:  dapper's due out in a month or 203:48
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phaedralapril 19, I read somewhere03:48
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wastrelthey're thinking of extending that for a few weeks03:48
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linuxpoetAny wireless folks in the house?03:48
phaedralah03:48
wastrelrumor has it :] 03:48
whiteranyones trash applet mysteriously disappear from their desktop?03:48
tritiumlinuxpoet: there are no strings on me :)03:48
linuxpoetheh03:48
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benjihow do you know whast the grub address our your drives is?03:49
linuxpoetO.k. I have a simple (I think) problem03:49
tonyyarussowhiter: No, but I've heard of that, and you can get it back.03:49
linuxpoetMy wireless card is detected03:49
linuxpoetI can see it using iwconfig....03:49
whiterhow tony?03:49
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whiteri tried the configuration editor but it didnt work03:49
linuxpoetI can ping the ip address of the card itself03:49
linuxpoetBut I can ping any others on the network03:49
wastrelwhiter:  applications > system tools > configuration editor  then  apps > nautilus > desktop   and check the show trash thingy03:49
tonyyarussowhiter: Right-click > Add to panel > Trash03:49
linuxpoetNow, I have 4 linux machines03:50
linuxpoetall wireless03:50
wastrelor what tonyyarusso said03:50
ZarephathAnyone installed the vmware server beta under Ubuntu?03:50
linuxpoetthey all work03:50
linuxpoetexcept this one03:50
keishinAnyone have any ideas what I broke?03:50
whitertonyyarusso i said desktop03:50
whiterwastrel i tried that03:50
tritium!tell linuxpoet about enter03:50
whiterits still missing03:50
tonyyarussowhiter: That was for the little panel thing, sorry.  The other thing should work, or you can add it to the panel and drag and drop it to the desktop.03:50
nidahwhy doesnt priv dialogue auto open now?03:50
whiterno, you cant actually03:50
wastrelwhiter:  is it off the edge of the desktop?  try cleaning up the desktop03:50
linuxpoetSo any ideas?03:50
whiterhow would i clean the desktop?03:51
wastrelright click, clean up desktop03:51
ZarephathIt wants the header files for the kernel to be at /usr/src/linux/include...I thought I could make a symbolic link to the header files and trick it into thinking they were where it is looking..no joy03:51
phaedralI'm looking to install on a laptop, need to dual boot, would like an installer that handles repartioning NTFS in place03:51
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ZarephathI have installed them!03:51
wastreler, "clean up by name" in my menu03:51
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eirejahhello03:51
whiterhehe03:51
whiterthere it goes03:51
wastrelkuhl03:51
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leroyanyone willing to help out...situation is lilo I think is pointing to a the wrong area on my MBR for NTLDR, because it is showing "NTLDR Missing" when I try to boot the win OS partition.03:51
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Zarephathleror: What partition is windows on?03:52
leroyc://03:52
keishinI have yet another total newb problem :(  I somehow managed to break everything that requires sudo/gksudo auth.  And my password is echoed in the terminal now =\03:52
eirejahare there any major security bugs or patches/updates needed for Ubuntu 5.10?03:52
leroyi added the ubunut partition03:52
leroyafter on D;//03:52
wastrelwow03:52
Zarephathleroy: you have /dev/hda...so I presume the partition resides at /dev/hda1?03:52
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wastrelnice going keishin :]   what did you do?03:52
leroyyes03:53
keishinI really don't know.03:53
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keishinIt was working fine to the best of my recollection last night.03:53
_jasonkeishin: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?03:53
wastrelpassword echoing is a terminal problem.03:53
keishinHrm... that works normally.03:53
nidahanyway of reverting xchat to previous version?03:53
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_jasonkeishin: hrmm03:53
_jasonkeishin: what doesn't work specifically?03:54
nidahanyway of reverting xchat to previous version?03:54
keishinuhhh... wtf >_<03:54
wastrelnidah:  are you using xchat or gnome-xchat ?03:54
NickGarveywhat should the permissions for .Xauthority be?03:54
keishinNow, apparently, nothing.03:54
nidahxchat03:54
_jasonkeishin: that'll be 20 bucks03:54
keishinThat's damn bizarre.  I had rebooted several times and played around with it...03:54
chromakodenidah:  I contacted you, but you did not respond.03:54
eirejahanyone?03:54
keishinAnd after doing that echo line, I type the exact same thing... and it works normally03:54
eirejahare there any major security bugs or patches/updates needed for Ubuntu 5.10?03:55
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_jasonkeishin: sounds very strange...03:55
keishinThanks, I think =P03:55
cpitzakwhen i change everything from breezy to drapper and do apt-get update .,.... i get errors03:55
wastrelnidah:  and you're sure it's not xchat-gnome you want?    i've been using xchat for years and don't recall major changes between versions.03:55
keishinSounds like I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm sure... but... yeah.03:55
nidahi tried to chro03:55
chromakodeah.03:55
_jasoneirejah: enable security repositories and update&&upgrade03:55
wastrelnidah:  but if you really want to i suggest installing a tarball to /usr/local  of the version you like and use that instead03:55
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nidahpriv chat dont auto ope and when i open a dialogue u didnt get my msgs03:55
Zarephathcpitzak: Make sure you have your sources.list setup wherever is has universe to put multiverse to the right...then apt-get update03:56
pwweirejah There have been security announcements for some apps. If you have security updates in your sources list and you run updates often, you should have them03:56
Zarephaththen apt-get dist-upgrade03:56
chromakodenidah: have you checked the preferences?03:56
whitergnomad2 needs to be started with root privlidges in order to access my mp3 player on the usb bus, how can i make it automatically start in root mode?03:56
whiter...without having to do sudu03:56
whitersudo*03:56
Zarephathcpitzak: It is dapper just in case that wasn't a typo03:56
nidahcheck waht in prefs?03:56
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chromakodenidah: the dialogue behavior.03:57
linuxcrazyI'm back!03:57
whiterCould not open jukebox:03:57
whiterusb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted03:57
whiteris what i get when not root03:57
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nidahno prefs for that03:57
chromakodeok.03:57
linuxcrazycan someone tell me how to install libdvdcss?03:57
chromakodenidah: if you wish to revert, old debs may be found in /var/cache/apt/archives/03:57
chromakodesee if the old xchat is in there.03:58
_jasonlinuxcrazy: I think I have told you a few times about seveas.  Did you have problems with it?03:58
benjihow do you know what the grub address our your drives are?03:58
Zarephathlinuxcrazy: goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com and search restricted formats it has it on part of the process03:58
linuxcrazyyes, i add the repo but it won't take it.03:58
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_jasonlinuxcrazy: what do you mean by ``won't take it''.  put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:58
Zarephathbenji: hd0 it /dev/hda hd1 would be /dev/hdb etc...the second value seperated by comma is the partition number03:59
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cpitzakfailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/drapper/main/........... 404 not found04:00
SutureWhen I "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for a breezy to dapper upgrade it gives me "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz' with different file `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz', not allowed" how can I fix that?04:00
cpitzakcouldn't stat source packages list ....04:00
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Zarephathcpitzak: You must be dyslexic...it isn't drapper.. it is DAPPER get it?04:00
bimbericpitzak: i spy a typo "drapper" (remove the r)04:00
nidahfound archive how do i revert to it?04:00
cpitzaklol04:00
cpitzaktypo sorry04:01
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cpitzakthanks for the msgs04:01
chromakodenidah: if doubleclick doesn't work, try a "sudo dpkg -i packagename" on the terminal.04:01
cpitzaksomeone said to change all universe to multiverse... is that right?04:01
linuxcrazywhy won't you guys tell me how to add this repo http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/04:01
chromakodejavascript:steps.go2('step3content');04:01
Zarephathcpitzak: that was me and that WAS NOT WHAT I TYPED04:01
linuxcrazythat's all I need to know04:01
chromakodeerm.04:01
chromakodethat was odd, sorry.04:02
NickGarvey!tell linuxcrazy about patience04:02
chromakodexchat should not respond to dnd :/04:02
ZarephathI said any line that has universe to type multiverse next to it04:02
linuxcrazycan't someone just tell me?04:02
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nmlinuxcrazy: why? just look it up04:02
_jasonlinuxcrazy: the wiki tells you I think?04:02
linuxcrazymultiverse how do I do that?04:02
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Zarephathlinuxcrazy: If you don't want to follow what folks suggest you do...you need to run windows04:02
tritium!tell linuxcrazy about repos04:02
linuxcrazyHow do i type multiverse?04:03
_jasonlinuxcrazy: m-u-l-t-i-v-e-r-s-e04:03
_jasonlinuxcrazy: what do you mean?04:03
Zarephathlinuxcrazy: Just look at the message ubotu is telling you..it will become apparent after you read a bit04:03
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linuxcrazyI can't type multiverse beside universe.04:04
NickGarveysays who04:04
tritiumlinuxcrazy: in an editor you can04:04
benjizarephath thnks but what aboit SATA drives?04:04
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linuxcrazyhow do i do that04:04
_jasonlinuxcrazy: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'04:04
tritiumlinuxcrazy: did you read the URL I had ubotu send you?04:04
Whatsisnamelol04:04
SutureWhen I "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for a breezy to dapper upgrade it gives me "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz' with different file `/usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz', not allowed" how can I fix that?04:04
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phantasmoholicyaay04:04
nidahno luck archive has 2.6 version same one04:04
phantasmoholici got dual monitors working04:04
Zarephathbenji: Not sure on that one since I don't have SATA..but I wold be willing to guess it would still use the same method..anyone know?04:04
NickGarveynice04:04
tritiumSuture: dappers questions in #ubuntu+104:05
chromakodenidah: ok.04:05
Suturetritium: well its a breezy to dapper =P04:05
_jasonlinuxcrazy: if you prefer to use synaptic then the wiki link tritium sent you is clear04:05
phantasmoholici'm scared about dapper04:05
ZarephathSuture: He knows that..04:05
tritiumSuture: exactly04:05
linuxcrazyok I'll shut up. sorry04:05
La_PaRCatritium, fixed the restart problem with the last update :)04:05
SutureZarephath: well im sure one of you knows how to fix it, redirecting me is just wasting my time but whatever04:06
tritiumLa_PaRCa: no kidding?04:06
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La_PaRCatritium, hones04:06
La_PaRCat04:06
chromakodenidah: http://tinyurl.com/qedbo - choose what you like.04:06
phantasmoholicyou tell them suture04:06
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tritiumLa_PaRCa: what was the fix?04:06
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isaihi04:06
La_PaRCatritium, oh, it wasnt me!04:06
phantasmoholicthey create an entire os for free, then give it away for free, then they need to give help for free all the time too04:06
tritiumLa_PaRCa: but do you know what fixed it?04:07
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tritiumphantasmoholic: there is paid support too04:07
La_PaRCatritium, um... the update? no, not really.04:07
IdleOneSuture>  phantasmoholic  help for Dapper is given away for FREE in #ubuntu+1 :)04:07
isaiI want to install Ubuntu over my LAN using ftp. is that possible ? (I would rather not burn a cd)04:07
tritiumLa_PaRCa: okay, I'll check it out :)04:07
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phantasmoholicso I can buy tech support for ubuntu?04:08
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SpYdAbYtEanyone that can help me with glftpd around .. i add peopel with thier ip but the only way they can conenct is to add *@0.0.0.0 for ip04:08
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tonyyarussophantasmoholic: Correct.04:08
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phantasmoholicwhere do you do that04:08
bimberi!support04:08
ubotusomebody said support was not limited to IRC. Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/support for more options.04:08
phantasmoholic!support04:08
SpYdAbYtEsend me 50 bucks paypal and ill be ur suport .. ill hand u the blunt while u get mad :)04:09
HymnToLifeSpYdAbYtE> you should be promped for username/password whan connecting to a FTP serer04:09
SpYdAbYtEyes04:09
SpYdAbYtEim running glftpd server on my ubuntu box04:09
g3nocidecan someone help me? i boot up ubuntu, get the nice login screen, then when gnome goes to load, the mouse show sup fine and works, then i get a white rectangle in the middle of my screen and thinks stop functioning (except the mouse, it moves around just fine )04:09
HymnToLiferemember to add ftp:// before the IP if you're connecting from a web browser04:09
isaiare docs somewhere on installing over Ubuntu 5.10 over ftp?04:09
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SpYdAbYtEHymnToLife i think u misunderstood my ?04:09
bimberi!install04:09
ubotuInstalling Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware04:09
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bimberiisai: ^^^^^ there might be something there04:10
isaithanks04:10
bimberiisai: yw :)04:10
SpYdAbYtEim running glftpd server on my ubuntu box i add peopel with thier ip but they cant connect with thier username/pass until i add *@0.0.0.0 as the persons ip04:10
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HymnToLifeoh ok got it04:11
SpYdAbYtE:)04:11
IdleOnebimberi>  wouldnt what isai  wants to do be considered a net install? and if so i dont think he can do that04:11
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HymnToLifewell I can't help you with it, I use vsftpd04:11
SpYdAbYtEthats what everyen says04:11
SpYdAbYtElol04:11
SpYdAbYtEi been fighting with this one log enough i only need htis one problem fixed04:11
SpYdAbYtEim not gonan switched after i been a week tyrig nto get it to at least work :)04:11
phantasmoholici wonder how easy ubuntu would install on an over the hill IBM Netfinity04:11
isaiIdleOne: why would it not work?04:12
SpYdAbYtEphantasmoholic : my buddy just tired it on an over the hill ibm he had to disable ...04:12
SpYdAbYtEhold ill get what it was04:12
IdleOneisai>  because I dont think net installs can be done with ubuntu..not sure though04:12
juliois there a messenger emulator or something for ubuntu?04:12
SpYdAbYtElinux acpi=off04:12
bimberiIdleOne: there are instructions for net (or netboot) installs linked to that wiki page.  I've never done it personally though.04:12
phantasmoholicjulio : messenger emulator?04:12
SpYdAbYtEphantasmoholic : he had to linux acpi=off to get it to work04:13
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IdleOnebimberi>  well then isai  you should be able to do it04:13
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juliomsn?04:13
phantasmoholicSpYdAbYtE: i'll remember that04:13
bimberijulio: Applications -> Internet -> Gaim04:13
phantasmoholicjulio : I use GAIM04:13
SpYdAbYtEi use amsn04:13
IdleOnejulio>  sudo apt-get install amsn04:13
juliothanks04:13
SpYdAbYtEbut04:13
SpYdAbYtEi also found a problem with amsn04:13
g3nocideI boot up, then get the nice gdm login screen, things are working fine, then gnome loads up and i get the brown bg with a white garbled rectangle on it, yet my mouse still works, can anyone help me out ??04:13
SpYdAbYtEsometimes the window starst shaking cant do anything but goto term and kill it04:14
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phantasmoholici'm using mIRC with noname script04:15
phantasmoholicgood alternative?04:15
SpYdAbYtEme too on this gay windows box04:15
phantasmoholici'm using wine04:15
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IdleOnephantasmoholic>  xchat04:15
tritiumSpYdAbYtE: language please04:15
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V4Vendettadamn04:16
g3nocidecan anyone help me with this or what ???04:16
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V4Vendettamy kitten is one cute little cat04:16
SpYdAbYtE?04:16
V4Vendetta:-)04:16
SpYdAbYtEi didnt swear04:16
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phantasmits not as pretty as mIRC with noname script04:16
JoshRAwhat is the command to reconfig s to get your correct reses?04:16
phantasmwhat about bitchx04:16
isaihmm...looks like a pain to do a netboot or NFS...guess I'll just have to use the CD...04:16
IdleOnephantasm>  then stick with noname :)04:16
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Overandin the GNOME terminal, is there an easy way to get a 'classic' style (bitmapped) terminal font ala 'terminal' on win32 or 'Linux' in Konsole?04:16
phantasmoholicyah I think I will04:17
SpYdAbYtEtritium: ?04:17
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SpYdAbYtEi like xchat04:17
phantasmoholichmm04:17
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phantasmoholicwonder how hard a java clone of noname script would be04:17
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jdprc06hi04:17
phantasmoholicsince I don't have any clue how to dev for X04:17
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jdprc06i need some help04:17
phantasmoholicjdprc06: whats wrong04:18
Whatsisnamehmmm building gnome2.14 by hand sure is fun04:18
chromakodejdprc06: with what?04:18
jdprc06i just installed ubuntu and i can't access the 36 updates that are waiting for me04:18
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wickedpuppyhi guys , i am wondering how far back does a ubuntu version is supported ? for example is hoary still getting latest patches via apt-get ?04:18
tritiumWhatsisname: why not just use dapper?04:18
cafuegowickedpuppy: a year, mimumum, afaik04:18
chromakodejdprc06: you seem to be doing pretty good, if you've got irc going. What seems to be the problem?04:18
tritiumwickedpuppy: 18 months, typically04:18
Whatsisnametritium, two reasons04:18
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[1] cowboyhas anyone had problems getting ubunto 5.10 to boot from cd ?04:19
jdprc06there's an icon telling me i have updates but i can't open it04:19
phantasmoholictritium: dapper likes to break stuff04:19
chromakodejdprc06: click on it?04:19
cafuegowickedpuppy: so hoary support may get dropped when 6.10 is released.04:19
Whatsisnameone: i'm suspicious theres already a package for it for dapper, but even if there is04:19
Whatsisnamei don't want to use all of dapper04:19
jdprc06i can't open the package manager either04:19
chromakodejdprc06: does it ask you for your password?04:19
jdprc06no04:19
tritiumphantasmoholic: I'm aware of that04:19
nickrudwhaley: if you're gonna do that make it easy: http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/04:19
phantasmoholicjdprc06: it should pop up a dialog04:19
Whatsisnamebesides, even if I bust my computer04:19
wickedpuppythanks guys ....04:19
jdprc06i think it did once04:19
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chromakodejdprc06: try running it on a terminal04:19
chromakodejdprc06: do you need help with that?04:19
WhatsisnameI can always use apt-get to restore gnome to 2.14 and wait until theres a regular package for gnome 2.14 for breezy04:19
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tritiumphantasmoholic: but if he's capable of building gnome from source, he can run dapper04:19
jdprc06yeah04:19
chromakodejdprc06: can you launch gnome-terminal?04:20
Whatsisnamehas someone already made an apt package for gnome2.14?04:20
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SpYdAbYtEnoone at all uses glftpd?04:20
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phantasmoholictritium: capable, or bored enough04:20
nickrudum, sorry whaley Whatsisname  http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/ makes it easy04:20
Whatsisnamegarnome failed to work04:20
jdprc06not sure how to do that04:20
Whatsisnameand i'm too lazy to figure out why it failed04:21
Whatsisnamesame with jhbuild04:21
tritiumWhatsisname: it's in dapper, yes (and hence, packaged)04:21
chromakodejdprc06: applications->accessories->terminal04:21
nickrudWhatsisname: ok, point :)04:21
jdprc06oh ok haha04:21
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jdprc06got it04:21
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chromakodejdprc06: put in "sudo synaptic" and see what you get. :)04:21
Whatsisnamebuilding it by hand really isn't all that difficult its just tedious because I have to go in the right order04:21
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nickrudI used to do that, but boy when garnome appeared ...04:22
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jdprc06it says password, but when i can't type my password04:23
Whatsisnamegarnome got about half way through04:23
chromakodejdprc06: it will not show, but your password will be recorded.04:23
Whatsisnamescrewed up because something it built was out of order04:23
nickrudand then apt-get rose into my conciousness, and I left gcc on the shelf04:23
chromakodejdprc06: try entering it and pressing enter.04:23
Whatsisnameresolved one of them, got another04:23
Whatsisnameand said screw it and just started from scratch04:23
jdprc06i can't run sudo anymore04:23
chromakodejdprc06: what output do you get on the command line?04:24
jdprc06my username04:24
jdprc06it said 2 incorrect password attempts04:24
jdprc06then didn't let me in04:24
chromakodejdprc06: ok. are you sure your password is entered correctly?04:24
jdprc06i believe04:25
Ads_please help! why does my mouse keep skipping? i'm coming to the point of just giving up i can seem to fix it no matter what........my cursor always skips and it's come to the point where it's barely usable :(04:25
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FunnyLookinHatWow, who saw the "YAY FOR AUTOMATIX" Slashdot post?04:26
chromakodejdprc06: ok. well, if sudo isn't accepting it, something is wrong.04:26
juliocan somebody tell me what the diferrence between ubuntu and kubuntu04:26
chromakodejdprc06: are you on a new install?04:26
FunnyLookinHatjulio, Kubuntu uses KDE04:26
chromakodejulio: gnome and kde?04:26
jdprc06yes04:26
FunnyLookinHatjulio, ubuntu uses Gnome04:26
fiveironanyone using cedega cvs?04:26
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chromakodejdprc06: perhaps you have mistyped your password.04:26
chromakodejdprc06: :(04:26
SpYdAbYtEUbuntu Rocks :)04:26
phantasmoholicjulio: one uses an exessive amount of k's04:26
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jdprc06where can i fix that?04:26
FunnyLookinHatjulio, the basic different is that KDE is more, windowesque04:26
SpYdAbYtEmade me leave windows xp pro :)04:26
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mafialordHey, can someone please help me?04:26
Whatsisnamewith what04:27
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phantasmoholicmafialord: state the problem04:27
tonyyarussoSpYdAbYtE: Me too.04:27
La_PaRCaKDE is the suck04:27
PaymanGreetings04:27
FunnyLookinHatKDE blowz0rs.04:27
phantasmoholicLa_PaRCa: you teh noob04:27
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cafuegoKDE sucks far less than trolls. Kindly leave.04:27
mafialordI want to install an Apache server on my ubuntu, but I am a bit lost... I'm new to Linux04:27
chromakodejdprc06: let me think of the best method.04:27
tonyyarussoubotu: tell mafialord about helpme04:27
tritiumno desktop wars, please04:27
La_PaRCaphantasmoholic, nah, im just captain useful04:27
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phantasmoholicLa_PaRCa: lol04:28
Xenguyintelikey: nah, yer funny -- metaphor04:28
SpYdAbYtE22days so far04:28
jdprc06ok04:28
chromakodejdprc06: do you have a live cd?04:28
SpYdAbYtElast time i tried a unix distro it was madrake 7.0 lastes 2 days :)04:28
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[1] cowboyhas anyone had problems getting ubuntu cd version 5.10 to install ?04:28
jdprc06yes04:28
[1] cowboyi have too04:28
SpYdAbYtEwhat kinda system04:29
IdleOne[1] cowboy>  what problems you having exactly?04:29
SpYdAbYtEi installed it on many dif ones now ..04:29
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SpYdAbYtE800 amd k6 .. 256 meg ram04:29
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[1] cowboyi have an amd sempron 3300+ and have tried x86 32 bit and amd 64 bit disks04:29
SpYdAbYtE16meg vanta vid card04:29
SpYdAbYtEruns liek a champ04:29
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Ads_please help! why does my mouse keep skipping? i'm coming to the point of just giving up i can seem to fix it no matter what........my cursor always skips and it's come to the point where it's barely usable :(04:29
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SpYdAbYtEgames even run better then when windows was ran04:29
mafialordCan anyone please help me? I asked my question before ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^04:29
SoulPropagationSpYdAbYtE: What now?04:29
chromakodejdprc06: I've reset root password using chroot and a livedisk, but since you might not be so experienced with a command line, this might be a bit tricky.04:29
HymnToLifeSpYdAbYtE> I installed it on a 486 DX, 8MB RAM, 800 MB HD /p04:30
[1] cowboyit tries to boot from cd then goes into recovery and boots from hard drive04:30
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phantasmoholiclast linux I actually used was redhet 504:30
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SpYdAbYtESoulPropagation ?04:30
NickGarveymafialord: apt-get install apache04:30
NickGarvey!apache04:30
ubotusomebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:30
bimberiubotu tell mafialord about lamp04:30
SoulPropagation(09:29:33 PM) SpYdAbYtE: games even run better then when windows was ran04:30
NickGarveymafialord: apt-get install apache204:30
mafialordThanks : )04:30
SoulPropagationSpYdAbYtE: What are you using?04:30
jdprc06well i know the password, i just typed it wrong that time into sudo synaptic. what if i rebooted?04:30
fybervibejust installed ubuntu and would like to view .mov movie files. In Firefox, I get "Totem could not play 'fd://0' There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins." Where do I get the plugins?04:30
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jdprc06would it reset sudo04:30
SpYdAbYtEubuntu 5.1004:30
SpYdAbYtEBreezy badger power :)04:30
Xenguymafialord: it's not hard really - just install it, check the config file, check permissions, and go04:30
chromakodejdprc06: mmm. has the password worked before?04:30
SoulPropagationSpYdAbYtE: I mean to run the games04:30
jdprc06yes04:30
jdprc06when i logged in, of course04:31
SoulPropagationSpYdAbYtE: Cedega?04:31
chromakodejdprc06: if you typed it wrong, it shouldn't have saved it in any way.04:31
jdprc06ok04:31
jdprc06it just locked me out?04:31
mafialordOkay, thanks Xenguy!04:31
chromakodejdprc06: are you putting your user password into sudo?04:31
SpYdAbYtEwell using gnome to run ememy territory04:31
phantasmoholicalong the lines of fybervibe, does anyone know of a standalone app or codec to play FLV files04:31
SoulPropagationHow do I turn off the thing that kills X when I hit ctrlshiftbackspace?04:31
chromakodejdprc06: you should not be locked out.04:31
Xenguymafialord: np04:31
jdprc06yes it's the only one i have04:31
fybervibeSpYdAbYtE: enemy territory rules04:31
jdprc06of sudo, i am04:31
jdprc06i can't run it04:31
chromakodejdprc06: well, it runs, but doesn't take your password, right?04:31
SpYdAbYtEfybervibe u play alot>04:31
jdprc06not anymore04:31
phantasmoholicfybervibe: your alias is too cool04:31
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jdprc06i can't get it to respond04:31
fybervibeSpYdAbYtE: not as much as i used to, but starting to get into it again04:31
fybervibephantasmoholic: thanks04:32
SpYdAbYtEfybervibe can i pm u ?04:32
chromakodejdprc06: what do you mean by not responding?04:32
fybervibeSpYdAbYtE: sure04:32
jdprc06i type sudo synaptic and it just gives me another command line04:32
SpYdAbYtEoh i cant04:32
SpYdAbYtE private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )04:32
chromakodejdprc06: but it accepts your password?04:32
SpYdAbYtEhmmz04:32
SpYdAbYtEu have msn04:32
phantasmoholichmm04:32
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fybervibeyahoo04:32
SpYdAbYtEbah04:32
keishinUhmm... okay.  Now I can't open up several things in System>Administration.  Like Users and Groups will show up below with Starting Users and Groups, then it goes away and it never opens... help?04:32
phantasmoholici gotta go think of a new mashup of words to make a new alias04:32
Xenguy!pm04:32
ubotuAsk your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.04:32
KING_DIAMONDdivx a vcd pal a ntsc04:32
KING_DIAMOND?04:32
IdleOneSpYdAbYtE>  /msg nickserv register help04:32
silvaranSpYdAbYtE: /msg nickserv register04:32
jdprc06it doesn't ask any more04:33
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fybervibe<-- trying to get video client to work... any help appreciated04:33
SpYdAbYtEok i reged04:33
SpYdAbYtEare u reged?04:33
NickGarveyI can't seem to get my X-server to forward over my SSH connection, any one know anything about this?04:33
XenguyNickGarvey: /etc/ssh/sshd_config  <-- X forwarding enabled?04:34
chromakodejdprc06: it's odd that it wouldn't work. If you're sure it worked before, perhaps try logging in and out of gnome04:34
SpYdAbYtEfybervibe i sent u a pm04:34
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chromakodejdprc06: I don't know why that would fix anything, though.04:34
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fybervibefuck, i forget my identify password.. hehe04:34
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NickGarvey!language04:34
IdleOnelanguage04:34
ubotuI guess language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.04:34
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bimberikeishin: try running 'gksu users-admin' from a terminal and look for errors (don't worry about the "host-based authentication failed" warning)04:35
intelikeycan't figure out what is eating up all the ram....(and does) tty2 [root#~]  cat /dev/random > /dev/shm/file04:35
SpYdAbYtEoh sure i got a ban and i didnt even swear04:35
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jdprc06i'll try that04:35
chromakodejdprc06: ok.04:35
keishinIt seems to hang, bimberi.04:35
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tritiumSpYdAbYtE: no, you were quieted for a few seconds, that's it.04:36
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rukuarticAnyone know why when I'm running screen, I get Gtk-WARNING**: Cannot open display?04:36
SpYdAbYtEyeah but +b was the quietr04:36
tritiumSpYdAbYtE: and you know what you said04:36
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Xenguyrukuartic: are you root?04:36
tritium+b % is not the same as +b04:36
SpYdAbYtEi didnt swear tho :)04:36
rukuarticXenguy: Don't think so04:36
SpYdAbYtEim just messing sorry04:36
rukuarticXenguy: nope04:36
Xenguyrukuartic: hrm04:37
tritiumSpYdAbYtE: you used the "g" word, which is offensive or insulting to some04:37
intelikeywhat in the Krap is /dev/shm used for anyway ?04:37
rukuarticXenguy: I have a program running as a different user04:37
silvarantritium: gonads?04:37
SpYdAbYtEoh04:37
chromakodeintelikey: I believe it's swap?04:37
Xenguyrukuartic: that sounds likely04:37
rukuarticXenguy: Its like this, logged in as rukuartic, run gnome-terminal and then screen ontop of that.04:37
SpYdAbYtEsorry i apologize04:37
intelikeyit is ram isn't it04:37
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tritiumsilvaran: don't...04:37
mafialordI've got another problem. When I try installing anything at all, I get an error saying "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" and "Unable to lock the list directory"04:37
Xenguyrukuartic: as the same user?  That should not be a problem04:37
mafialordWhat should I do about that?04:38
keishinYeah bimberi, I get a blinking box on the next line (no prompt)...04:38
intelikeychromakode swap ram to ramdisk sounds like something M$ would do, not linux04:38
rukuarticXenguy: So we have gnome-term>screen>(user hldsadmin) and (user rukuartic)... I go run something like gedit and it doesn't want to work.04:38
mafialordSorry... First time using Linux : (04:38
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rukuarticmiketech: Congrats :D04:38
chromakodemafialord: you've got another apt program running. close synaptic, if you have it open.04:38
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chromakodeintelikey: I wasn't quite sure.04:38
IdleOne!tell mafialord about repos04:38
intelikeyk04:38
IdleOne!tell mafialord about apache04:38
mafialordThanks, I'll try that04:38
SutureAlright noone will help in ubuntu+1 so somone help me get rid of my dist-upgrade error04:38
Xenguyrukuartic: yeah, yer into X permissions there (xauth?) -- I don't know anything else04:38
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chromakodemafialord: otherwise, you might have a stale lock.04:38
rukuarticXenguy: Hmm04:38
mafialordOh04:39
mafialordI had that problem las time and tried reinstalling, so I don't think it is a stale lock.04:39
keishinehh... you see any of that, bimberi?04:39
Xenguyrukuartic: man xauth  ?04:39
mafialordOtherwise I doubt it would happen twice, right?04:39
chromakodemafialord: reinstalling?04:39
mafialordYeah, I removed ubuntu and installed it again04:39
QuinchI have a question - when I hit ctrl-alt-f1 {through F6}, what exactly am I switching to and how do I get back to the GUI?04:39
chromakodemafialord: whoa! you shouldn't need to go that far ;)04:40
bimberikeishin: only "It seems to hang" :|04:40
mafialordlol04:40
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XenguyQuinch: C-A-F704:40
chromakodemafialord: if you have no clear software managers open, it's probably a stale lock.04:40
phantasmhey here's an interesting question04:40
keishinYeah, and...04:40
[1] cowboyhas anyone had problems booting from ubuntu cd with the latest version04:40
keishinYeah bimberi, I get a blinking box on the next line (no prompt)...04:40
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mafialordWhat can I do about a "stale lock"?04:40
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intelikeyQuinch the linux console   and the gui is in tty7   alt-f704:40
phantasmi installed firefox 1.5 on ubuntu, and it always opens to thompsons.com even if I set my own homepage04:40
yggdrasil_how can i get java and real player ;)04:40
QuinchNeato. Thanks.04:40
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chromakodemafialord: we must delete it :)04:40
phantasmer petersons.com04:41
bimberikeishin: hm, not much to go on there :|04:41
mafialordOh. How would we do that?04:41
phantasmanyone else experienced this or know how it might be doing that04:41
IdleOnephantasm>  how did you install ff1.5?04:41
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chromakodemafialord: are you comfortable with a terminal?04:41
XenguyQuinch: so you have 6 'virtual consoles' (cli) and then X starts on F704:41
pjvanyone here got xvidcap working?04:41
bimberikeishin: does sudo work (eg. 'sudo ls' in a terminal)?04:41
keishinYeah, no kidding.04:41
mafialordEh- kind of. I'm more used to the Windows terminal, heh, very new to Linux...04:41
phantasmIdleOne: I downloaded the file from mozilla and unpacked it and changed around some links04:41
QuinchXenguy: Thanks!04:41
keishinYeah, it does.04:41
Xenguymafialord: then this will be a relief :-)04:41
chromakodemafialord: ok. I can coach you through it if you'd like,.04:41
IdleOne!tell phantasm about ff1.504:41
XenguyQuinch: aye04:41
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frank23anybody heard about this? there will be a free legal way to distribute mp3 support in gstreamer: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html04:42
_jasonI would like to create a directory foo so that when ever I or another user on my system copies a file to foo, all users will be able have read, write, and execute permissions without me having to manually change the permissions on the file everytime I copy something to foo.  Is this possible?04:42
keishinErr, Yes it does work that is, bimberi.04:42
mafialordSure, thanks!04:42
IdleOnephantasm>  use that link from the bot and you may want to remove that versuion you have installed04:42
phantasmIdleOne: that is the page I used to do it04:42
bimberikeishin: hmmk04:42
Xenguy_jason: chmod g+s  ?04:42
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chromakodemafialord: ok, so pull open your terminal04:42
NickGarveyXenguy: yes, forwarding is on04:42
XenguyNickGarvey: good04:42
IdleOnephantasm>  dont know what you did then but it shouldnt be opening thompson.com thats for sure04:43
XenguyNickGarvey: and the client does ssh -X/x  ? (memory)04:43
mafialordk04:43
frank23_jason: put all the users in the same group and give rw access to tthat group04:43
mafialordIt's open.04:43
NickGarvey-X is the switch, and yes04:43
phantasmI think I'll just untar over it04:43
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NickGarvey-x turns it off04:43
phantasmand see if that changes it04:43
rukuarticXenguy: What's G+s do?04:43
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intelikeyhow do you set a background image in lilo ?04:43
_jasonXenguy: ah ok I will try that.  man chmod gavev me the impression it was only for executable but I should have experimented :)04:43
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intelikeyis it splash=file ?04:44
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chromakodemafialord: one moment.04:44
mafialordk04:44
SpYdAbYtEbefore i have to go and hit the bed for sleep is there anyone who can help me with glftpd please ?04:44
bimberikeishin: how about 'gksu ls'04:44
rukuarticMy ubuntu splash never gets past loading modules... then it goes to a terminal and back to X04:44
Xenguyrukuartic: set guid (memory circuits are failing at the moment; permissions are inherited to some extent)04:44
rukuarticXenguy: Sweet.04:44
_jasonfrank23: if I have foo with 666 permissions and foo/bar.txt in foo with bar.txt having 000 permissions I would be able to edit bar.txt?04:44
Xenguy_jason: should work04:45
keishinSame as earlier, bimberi - hangs04:45
chromakodemafialord: beeen a while since I've had to do this :)04:45
mafialordThat's k : )04:45
keishinbimberi, Well, doesn't actually hang I guess.  I can type stuff on that blank line04:45
frank23_jason: no bar.txt needs appropriate permisions as well04:45
intelikeybrb.04:45
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NickGarveyXenguy: I was able to forward xclock once but nothing sense then, and startx failed when I did it then04:45
_jasonfrank23: right, that was my problem.  I didn't want to always have to modify the permissions04:45
phantasmgrr04:45
phantasmstill doing it04:45
phantasmhow is this petersons.com place taken over my fireofx04:46
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phantasmi feel like I'm using IE or something04:46
Frogzoo_jason: no - you won't be able to write the file - but try it & see04:46
chromakodemafialord: so, first of all, let's try 'sudo fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'04:46
mafialordOkay, I'll try that04:46
keishinphantasm, I actually have the same thing going on.  Somehow mine is set to www.arizone.edu =(04:46
phantasmwow man, this is whacky04:47
chromakodemafialord: it may ask for your password. just type er in and press enter.04:47
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NickGarveyphantasm: did you grep all of the firefox files for petersons.com?04:47
phantasmi'll try that04:47
XenguyNickGarvey: I confess I don't actually use it that much ( tho it is very cool, and I want to).  I've been using x11vnc over SSH lately to forward the whole X display ;-)04:47
mafialordk, It asked for the pass and I entered it. Nothing happened. No errors or anything04:47
chromakodemafialord: ok.04:47
NickGarveyXenguy: yeah I don't want to have a GUI running on the server though04:47
NickGarveywhich is needed for vnc but not what I am trying to do04:47
XenguyNickGarvey: good point04:47
chromakodemafialord: try 'sudo cat /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'04:48
SpYdAbYtEok guys night ill be back tommrow i guess04:48
phantasmumm, yah, whats a good way to grep all my firefox files04:48
NickGarveybut this is being insanely difficult04:48
tylercan mplayer play asx file?04:48
tylercan mplayer play asx file?04:48
XenguyNickGarvey: I didn't realize it was a server only04:48
_jasontyler: yes, install w32codecs04:48
_jasonubotu: tell tyler about w32codecs04:48
mafialordAgain, nothing happened.04:48
bimberikeishin: seems to be an issue with gksu, sorry i'm not sure what that could be though :/04:48
chromakodemafialord: ok.04:48
NickGarveyXenguy: yeah I upgraded the hardware so I figured I would mess around with forwarding GUIs04:48
chromakodemafialord: and you aren't able to run synaptic or the like?04:48
mafialordI am04:49
mafialordThat is how I installed Apache04:49
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tintin#charmed-ones04:49
mafialordunpackaged it from there04:49
XenguyNickGarvey: it's something I should have played with years ago, but you know how it goes (so many things to explore :-)04:49
phantasmgrep peterson *04:49
keishinYeah...  Thanks anyway though, bimberi .04:49
phantasmfound nothing04:49
chromakodemafialord: oh. so wait, what seems to be the problem?04:49
_jasonXenguy: doesn't appear to have worked, thank you for the suggestion though04:49
mafialordAll those errors with the console.04:49
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_jasonFrogzoo: appears you were right, this does not have an easy solution afayk?04:50
chromakodemafialord: errors with the console where? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.04:50
wastrelX forwarding over SSH?04:50
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wastreler, ssh04:50
Xenguy_jason: bummer - sounded like a cure for your situation04:50
mafialordThe lock problem we were talking about. What would be causing that?04:50
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mafialordUsing synaptic is fine, but what would be causing that?04:50
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nvicfhi there, I have a question, sometimes when I try to install something it asks for my ubuntu cd, which I don't have, can I avoid that and make apt install from the internet?04:50
chromakodemafialord: sometimes, an apt client can leave a lock file up if it's closed abruptly.04:50
Xenguywastrel: the mysteries of SSH are many and subtle ;P04:50
frank23nvicf: in synaptic disable the cdrom source04:50
chromakodemafialord: however, are you getting this error from apt-get commands in the command line? or where?04:51
smithjohnnvicf - remove your cd rom source....04:51
NickGarveywastrel: yeah thats what I am trying04:51
mafialordapt-get commands in the command line04:51
chromakodemafialord: I might be trying to fix the wrong problem ;)04:51
smithjohnand add the online sources only04:51
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mafialordAlso, many of my applications are giving me errors saying certain files don't exist.04:51
chromakodemafialord: ok. and you're getting the errors with synaptic closed?04:51
chromakodemafialord: which files?04:51
jadaz87does anyone know of a good ftp client for ubuntu that is in the repos?04:51
chromakodemafialord: the lock file?04:51
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mafialordNah. Theres a whole list04:51
rukuarticjadaz87: gftp is pretty good, preinstalled04:51
mafialordFor example...04:51
frank23jadaz87: gftp is good04:51
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Xenguyjadaz87: command-line: lftp; gui, hrm04:52
intelikeyjadaz87 ncftp04:52
mafialordAnjuta IDE...04:52
NickGarveyjadaz87: I use vsftpd, no gui needed04:52
wastrelNickGarvey:  it's not working for you?04:52
mafialordMissing "MAKE"04:52
intelikeyjadaz87 lftp04:52
chromakodemafialord: oh. heheh.04:52
NickGarveywastrel: nope, I was able to forward a clock once but it has failed sense04:52
jadaz87gftp is preinstalled?04:52
chromakodemafialord: well, that's mot an apt issue.04:52
XenguyNickGarvey: that's an ftpd tho04:52
mafialordYesterday, I tried running an FTP program. "Could not find *some file*"04:52
keishinbimberi, would the debug switch be helpful?04:52
mafialordOh.04:52
NickGarveyoh, he wanted a client?04:52
chromakodemafialord: apt-get install build-essentials if you need make04:52
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tritiummafialord: it's build-essential (no s)04:52
Xenguyjadaz87: gftp works, but is a bit sucky with interface design :-)04:52
chromakodemafialord: however, your problems with apt-get on the command line? what is the output?04:52
mafialordOh04:52
chromakodetritium: doh, right.04:53
mafialordOne sec04:53
keishinOr well04:53
mafialordI'll copy and paste it04:53
XenguyNickGarvey: I think so04:53
wastrelNickGarvey:  you connecting with ssh -X  ?04:53
keishinCan anyone help me with a problem I seem to be having with gksu?04:53
chromakodemafialord: please privvate message it.04:53
NickGarveywastrel: yes, let me show you my error04:53
ITSa341I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??04:53
mafialordk04:53
chromakodemafialord: spamming the channel is not recommended :)04:53
ITSa341I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??04:53
bimberikeishin: could be, if it has one04:53
jadaz87xenguy oh ok04:53
ITSa341http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1036804:53
mafialordOh, sorry! Heh.04:53
nvicffrank23, in synapsis -> settings -> preferences or repositories?04:53
ITSa341oops04:53
Xenguyjadaz87: having said that, I use gftp :-)04:53
NickGarveyhttp://pastebin.com/60681504:53
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frank23nvicf: manage repositories04:54
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chiletixhello04:54
jadaz87xenguy i think i am going to install that then04:54
chiletixi need some helpwith samba04:54
chiletixcan anybody help me?04:54
NickGarvey,/join #samba04:54
nvicffrank23, but repositories in synapsis I have the ubuntu version but it doesn't explicitly indicates cdrom04:54
Xenguyjadaz87: it's the only gui I know, but I here filezilla is being ported, which will be nicer when it arrives04:55
NickGarveythat would prob be your best bet chiletix04:55
Xenguyhear04:55
keishinbimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1037004:55
frank23nvicf: the first one should be the cdrom source I think04:55
nvicffrank23, ah sorry!04:55
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phantasmwow these guys did a good job of hijacking my firefox04:55
Xenguyjadaz87: (nautilus does ftp stuff to of course)04:56
NickGarveywastrel: I have tried setting the display variable myself but no luck04:56
arrinmurrfilezilla is already quite usable04:56
chromakodemafialord: everything alright?04:56
wastrelNickGarvey:  and you have the X forwarding option in your sshd_config ?04:56
NickGarveyyes04:56
mafialordYeah. I'm PMing you, but you aren't answering.04:56
jadaz87xenguy i searched for gftp within add applications but it did not come up with anything04:56
chromakodemafialord: haven't gotten anything from you yet :)04:56
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chiletixNickGarvey, what do you mean? do you have any ideao of samba?04:56
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NickGarveyit did work once remember04:56
loststar4545sometimes when i download a program from the repository i cant figure out how to start it  i refreshed gnome panel to see if it appears there is there any  tip  or command to find this out right now i am trying to figure out  how to start avida-base04:56
mafialordThat's odd. I just PM'd.04:56
chromakodemafialord: /msg chromakode ?04:56
NickGarveychiletix: the chatroom #samba would be able to help you more04:56
mafialordAh, I'll try that :)04:56
rukuarticloststar4545: I'm guessing avida... you could try looking around by yourself04:56
keishinbimberi, the "\uffff" appears as boxes to me04:57
jadaz87xenguy how can you do ftpclient with nautilus?04:57
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rukuarticloststar4545: for example, "whereis avida-base" or "grep avida /usr/bin /usr/local/bin"04:57
loststar4545i tried  avida  allready04:57
chiletixoka thanks04:57
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loststar4545thanks04:57
mafialordDid you recieve it now?04:57
chromakodemafialord: fraid not :/04:57
rukuarticloststar4545: Hold up bad command or filename!! ><04:57
rukuarticloststar4545: sorry, "ls /usr/local/bin | grep avida"04:57
phantasmwhats the best way to search the contents of all files on my system quickly04:57
mafialordHmmm... That's odd. See that is one of my problems as well; small glitches with the software ubuntu came with04:58
wastrelNickGarvey:  it looks like the X server on the local machine is refusing connections from the client on the remote host04:58
mafialordDo you have an IM client like AIM or MSN?04:58
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rukuarticloststar4545: Usually, programs are under /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin -- unless its administrative ad then its in /sbin04:58
chromakodemafialord: aim chromakode.04:58
NickGarveywastrel: hosts file maybe?04:58
mafialordk04:58
NickGarveyhosts.allow04:58
NickGarveyI'll check04:58
rukuarticmafialord: Try "naim" :D Its console based. "GAIM" works well too..04:58
EX0SDoes anybody dualboot?04:58
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NickGarveywastrel: no.. I wouldn't be able to ssh in I think...04:58
rukuarticEX0S: I do04:58
bimberikeishin: sorry, it's a mystery to me, if noone else knows you could try plugging some of that into google :/04:58
NickGarveyI love naim04:58
tritiumEX0S: sure04:58
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rukuarticGo NickGarvey04:58
jdprc06how do you open the package manager?04:58
keishinmm, okay.  Thanks anyway04:59
mafialordah, I've already got GAIM working. Heh, luckily that works04:59
ITSa341I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368 Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??04:59
chromakodemafialord: haha.04:59
tritiumjdprc06: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager04:59
EX0SI'm trying to dual boot with NFTS04:59
wastrelNickGarvey:  you're using putty to ssh?04:59
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EX0Sand the Ubuntu cant create the partions04:59
jdprc06thanks04:59
rukuarticEX0S: Ok, how are your drive(s) set up?04:59
NickGarveywastrel: yes, but I have the ssh package for cygwin also04:59
EX0Swell ones a maxtor with windows XP home edition and the partion is 82.0 GB05:00
NickGarveyI'm getting tethereal now to see whats happening05:00
jdprc06what's the terminal command for package manager?05:00
_jasonjbroome: aptitude or apt-get05:00
phantasmwow everytime I use Ubuntu, I end up hating it more and more and more and more05:00
intelikeyexos linux doesn't make ntfs05:00
_jasonjdprc06: ^05:00
tritiumEX0S: the installer can resize ntfs partitions05:00
cdubyahas anyone had any success converting wma to a more usable format?05:00
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EX0Sit wont though05:00
jbroomephatasm: i feel the same way about irc05:00
EX0Si tell it to use 42.0 GB for windows and it doesnt do anything05:00
NickGarveyyeah phantasm was using the wrong command05:00
rukuarticEX0S: You need to explain a little further... Do you have two physical hard drives, or one?05:01
EX0Sit still says 82.0 GB05:01
keishinCould anyone help me with a problem I'm having with gksu?05:01
NickGarveyneeded grep -r peterson ./*05:01
tritiumEX0S: it works for me and others05:01
EX0SI user 205:01
EX0Sones 40.0 GB and ones 82.0 GB05:01
_jasonkeishin: probably best if you just state your problem05:01
rukuarticEX0S: Ok, which one is your primary hard drive?05:01
EX0Sthe C:05:01
EX0S82.0 GB05:01
pizzadudedoes ubuntu normally take a long time to install? i've been installing now for abot 3 hours (server install)05:01
intelikeyEX0S linux doesn't make NTFS   let M$ do that part.05:01
rukuarticEX0S: Ok, that needs to be the secondary hard drive. Your primary should be the 40 GB05:01
rukuarticpizzadude: Are you using Dapper?05:01
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NickGarveywastrel: is this all happening over port 22?05:02
keishinwell _jason, it doesn't seem to work.  I try to gksu anything and it goes to a new line in the term and just sits there.05:02
pizzadudedunno what is dapper?05:02
EX0Sboth my harddirves are NFTS05:02
EX0SI tried everything!05:02
rukuarticEX0S: You can't put Linux on NTFS... just doesn't work.05:02
rukuarticEX0S: This is what I reccomend...05:02
NickGarveywastrel: I ask because when I monitor port 22, everytime it updates, I get a log entry, everytime I get a log entry, it shows it on my screen, and thus updates again05:02
_jasonkeishin: hrmm were you magically fixed sudo guy?05:02
keishin_jason, yes I was =\05:02
EX0Scan i change the partions to FAT?05:03
pizzaduderukuartic: what is dapper?05:03
_jasonkeishin: gksudo gedit, does that work?05:03
intelikey!ntfs05:03
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:03
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intelikeyEX0S linux doesn't do fat either05:03
EX0Sthen what does it do?05:03
rukuarticEX0S: Move your 40 gb to your primary hard drive position. Then move your 82 gb to the secondary partition. Make sure all your important files are off your 40 gb drive. Then put the install CD in again and put Ubuntu on your 40 gb. You'll have to format the drive05:03
MadpilotEX0S, Ubuntu uses EXT3 as it's default format, I'm not sure it'll run with your root or home partitions on FAT05:03
intelikeyext2 ext3 reiserfs05:03
rukuarticintelikey: It doesn't? I thought ti does.05:03
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EX0S........05:04
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keishin_jason, after I do the magically fixed sudo thing, yes.05:04
EX0Scant i change the,05:04
EX0Sthem*05:04
silvaranrukuartic: I think he might mean you probably shouldn't use it as your / filesystem :)05:04
_jasonkeishin: huh?05:04
wastrelNickGarvey:  yes it should all be going over the ssh connection05:04
tritiumrukuartic: I don't think he meant that it can't use fat32...05:04
rukuarticEX0S: I don't get your question...05:04
rukuartictritium: oh05:04
keishin_jason, I seem to need to 'sudo ls' something first for it to work05:04
EX0SChttp://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm05:04
intelikeyrukuartic no it can't install on fat.  it can access fat but fat doesn't support the permissions information required by linux05:04
EX0She changed the,05:04
NickGarveywastrel: ok tethereal won't do it then05:05
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_jasonkeishin: you should be using gksudo, not gksu.  Could that be the problem?05:05
rukuarticintelikey: Thats why i said move your files and format :P05:05
silvaranIs it possible to set default umasks with cifs/samba? 0644 for files, 0755 for dirs?05:05
silvaranerr, perms05:05
intelikeyyes,  and i agree. rukuartic05:05
EX0SHe has NFTS ans it works for him05:05
intelikeyerrr actually move repartition and format.05:05
keishin_jason, I am using gksudo on gedit05:05
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Xenguyoh yeah05:06
diemannifty, new version of flash out.05:06
diemanfor security issues05:06
silvaranEX0S: That's a dual-boot config... NTFS is still there, and accessible, but Linux can only read it, and can't be installed on it.05:06
keishin_jason, but gksu doesn't seem to work, and I'm unable to open several things in System>Administration05:06
MadpilotEX0S, you misunderstood that article, I think05:06
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_jasonkeishin: gksudo synaptic, what happens?05:06
Madpilot!dualboot05:06
uboturumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo05:06
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rukuarticMadpilot: Genious!05:07
MadpilotEX0S, have a look at the URL that ubotu just posted for you ^^^05:07
keishin_jason, synaptic opens fine05:07
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EX0SSystem Recue doesnt work either05:07
_jasonkeishin: what is a program that doesn't work?05:07
keishin_jason, although it does error in the term05:07
jdprc06how do you log into root? I can't do it fromt the login screen05:07
EX0Sit says invalid kernal image05:07
EX0Swhen i enter run_qtparted05:07
Madpilotjdprc06, you can't, graphical login as root is disabled05:07
keishin_jason,  Users and Groups for one05:07
jdprc06well i can't run synaptic without being the root05:07
Madpilotjdprc06, use sudo05:08
jdprc06ok05:08
NickGarvey!root05:08
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:08
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keishin_jason, I get the Starting Users and Groups in the bottom bar there... thinks about it... then it goes away and never opens05:08
javiolohow can I see if my comp is blocking access to other lan comps ?05:08
EX0SSystem Recue doesnt work :(05:08
Madpilotjdprc06, System->Admin->Synaptic, when it asks for a password, enter your own user pw05:08
silvaranjdprc06: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager?05:08
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intelikeyjdprc06 or preferably  gksudo synaptic05:08
QuinchQuickie question, if I may; is there a way to set Ubuntu to turn on numlock at boot?05:08
_jasonkeishin: do you know the terminal command for something that doesn't work (I don't know it for users and groups)05:08
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MadpilotQuinch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock05:09
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silvaran!numlock05:09
ubotunumlock is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock05:09
QuinchMuchthanks.05:09
jdprc06i can't open manager. i just get a noise05:09
silvaranMadpilot: Wow, two in a row.05:09
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intelikeyQuinch sudo apt-get install numlock05:09
keishin_jason, No but I'm quite new.  Update Manager also doesn't work *tries a few others*05:09
EX0SWhy does my System Recue will not work?05:09
XenguyEX0S: negative aura :-)05:10
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Madpilotjdprc06, are you logged in as the user you created during install?05:10
EX0Sgod i hate linux05:10
jdprc06yes05:10
thrice`hrm...I can't find mplayer in the repos, and I have the correct repos enabled (on dapper)05:10
thrice`any ideas?05:10
tritiumEX0S: it's your system, not linux.05:10
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XenguyEX0S: yes you do05:10
_jasonkeishin: ok, gksudo update-manager05:10
silvaran!info mplayer dapper05:10
ubotumplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 3078 kB, Installed size: 7464 kB05:10
silvaranthrice`: Try multiverse?05:10
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keishin_jason, that works.05:10
EX0SFederoa probably works05:10
Madpilotjdprc06, in a terminal, type "groups"05:11
_jasonkeishin: erm05:11
sinbloxok, I have a really newbie question -- I'm trying to download a .deb file and it's opening up automatically with the file-roller program - but it won't run it.05:11
sinbloxWhat can I do?05:11
sinbloxit says "archive type not supported"05:11
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tritiumsinblox: .debs are not executables.  You don't run them.05:11
NickGarveysinblox: whats the name of the program? you might just be able to apt-get it05:11
thrice`hrm...is there an offical sources.list for dapper?05:11
jdprc06adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner05:11
ITSa341sinblox  right click save-as??05:11
thrice`that would be a dumb mistake heh05:11
XenguyEX0S: you know that scene where Smith says "It's the SMELL!" ?  Well, it's the CAPS! ;P05:11
tritiumthrice`: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions05:11
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sinbloxNickGarvey: it's calledamsn05:11
rukuarticEX0S: Nope. Imma bet you'd have the same problems.05:11
_jasonkeishin: how about users-admin, that seems to be users and groups05:11
sinbloxI'll try save as05:11
NickGarveysinblox: know what console is and how it works?05:12
rukuarticRight I'm out guys05:12
rukuarticg'nite05:12
NickGarveynight05:12
sinbloxNickGarvey: Pretty much05:12
keishin_jason, errors in terminal, but opens05:12
tritiumsinblox: it's available in the repositories05:12
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NickGarveyopen it05:12
Madpilotjdprc06, no "admin" on that list?05:12
jdprc06no05:12
silvaranthrice`: Just add multiverse to the end of the line for the main dapper repo05:12
NickGarveysinblox: type "sudo apt-get install amsn"05:12
ITSa341I'm trying to install GNUstep Position http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/  When I run "make install" I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10368 Can someone give me some insight into what I am doing wrong??05:12
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jdprc06yes, the first is adm05:12
intelikeynice chap that EX0S,   just wares his emotions on his shirt sleve05:12
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NickGarveyalthough sinblox, I would advise GAIM05:12
_jasonkeishin: probably just warnings... I have no idea why they work there and not in your menu05:12
FunnyLookinHatthrice`, You could also checkout easysource05:12
sinbloxNickgarvey/Tritium: I'll give that a try05:12
Madpilotjdprc06, just give me a moment, I'll be right back05:12
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sinbloxreally?05:12
FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell thrice` about easysource05:12
jdprc06ok thanks05:12
keishin_jason, Yeah, very odd.05:12
sinbloxMaybe I should gave the new 2.00 beta of gaim a try05:12
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sinbloxto be honest I couldn't really figure out how to get the RPM files working so I didn't get that one working, haha.05:13
keishin_jason, though gksu definitely seems to not work.  Could that be part of it? =\05:13
sinbloxI think it was because I wasn't running them like that05:13
Inf3ctedFxHello ppl05:13
ITSa341GAIM 2.0  sucks imho05:13
_jasonkeishin: afaik gksu is a gui frontend for su and su won't work because root is locked05:13
sinbloxolder version is better?05:13
Inf3ctedFxQuestion.. how can I update to drapper?? from Breezy?05:13
FunnyLookinHatITSa341, Why do you say that?05:13
silvaransinblox: Yeah, stick with the .debs05:13
ITSa341I prefer the default GAIM in Ubuntu05:13
wastrelITSa341:  is there a readme file?  you probably have to run ./configure first or "make" first , before you make install05:13
ITSa341Funny   the gui is poorly setup05:14
FunnyLookinHatInf3ctedFx, that question could be best answered in #ubuntu+105:14
thrice`!dapper05:14
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion05:14
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keishin_jason, Hrm. Okay.05:14
silvaran!upgrade05:14
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.05:14
FunnyLookinHatInf3ctedFx, however, you can download cd ISOs or change your sources.list to upgrade.05:14
_jasontritium: yeah me too...05:14
NickGarveysinblox: rpms won't work on ubuntu05:14
silvaranInf3ctedFx: ^^05:14
sinbloxOhhh05:14
ITSa341wastrel  all they give for instructions is "make install" listed at the bottom of the Position page05:14
Inf3ctedFxthats what I want to do change the sources.list05:14
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tritiumsinblox: well, they _can_, with the use of alien, but you don't want to use them.05:14
NickGarveysinblox: rpms are "red hat package managers"05:14
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FunnyLookinHatInf3ctedFx, they could tell you in #ubuntu+1 how to change it05:15
sinbloxah, now I feel silly for how I was trying to get a bunch of other programs to work05:15
NickGarveysinblox: ubuntu is debian based not red hat05:15
wastrelITSa341:  sec...05:15
ITSa341wastrel   thx05:15
silvaranITSa341: I wouldn't know where to start with your issue, per se, but I would suggest not including spaces in any parent subdirectories... just in case.05:15
NickGarveysinblox: I hear synaptic is very good although I know nothing about it05:15
FunnyLookinHatsinblox, NickGarvey , Synaptic is your BEST friend in ubuntu for new apps05:15
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FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell NickGarvey about synaptic05:15
FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell sinblox about synaptic05:16
ITSa341silvaran  I already moved it to /home/myname/position to avoid spaces in folder names such as My Documents etc05:16
NickGarveyFunnyLookinHat: I don't use a GUI mich05:16
tritiumFunnyLookinHat: except for aptitude ;)05:16
NickGarveymuch*05:16
silvaranITSa341: And no dice?05:16
FunnyLookinHattritium, you windows-look-alike GUI sellout!!05:16
FunnyLookinHat; )05:16
ITSa341same errors exactly05:16
tritiumFunnyLookinHat: aptitude is a cli app05:16
sinbloxI have a pretty good idea of how to use synapetic05:16
sinbloxI think I should be sticking to that then05:16
FunnyLookinHattritium, errr, I totally just read "Adept" instead of "aptitude"05:16
FunnyLookinHatlol05:16
FunnyLookinHatmy bad.05:17
tritiumheh05:17
ITSa341silvaran  I have been trying to figure this out for hours05:17
fiveironok #cedega is dead... can someone help me with a cedega problem though?  anyone using it?05:17
intelikeyaptitude is like a pig with a bad atitude....  stinks and isn't any fun to be around05:17
wastrelITSa341:  you have to compile it05:17
FunnyLookinHatsinblox, make sure you enable universe and multiverse repositories so you have access to 17000+ packages05:17
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sinbloxI shall. I appreciate all your helps guys!05:17
wastrelITSa341:  there's a README in the PROJ.4 subdirectory05:17
tritiumintelikey: you're silly05:17
intelikeyok05:17
ITSa341wastrel   ok I'll look again05:18
FunnyLookinHatsinblox, good luck!05:18
ITSa341wastrel  thx and bbiab05:18
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FunnyLookinHatNickGarvey, ; )05:18
Madpilotjdprc06, you need to add your user to the admin group (not adm, but admin)05:18
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jdprc06ok05:19
jdprc06how do i do that?05:19
intelikeybut at any rate. dpkg is the package manager in ubuntu, and all else is just front/back/ends for dpkg.05:19
NickGarveyoo a new error05:19
NickGarveythats good05:19
Madpilotjdprc06, you'll need to reboot, hit ESC during the boot to get the the Grub menu, and select the Recovery login05:19
jdprc06ok05:19
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Madpilotjdprc06, then in that mode, type "adduser <username> admin" - with your current username in there, and no quotes. then type "shutdown -r now" to restart your machine05:20
wastrelITSa341:  hmm actually that's just the projection sw, the Project makefile is referencing files that don't exist.  that's why you're getitng those errors.05:20
ITSa341wastrel  ok I already did that and compiled/installed Proj.4   just can't get the Position to install05:20
jdprc06ok05:21
jdprc06thanks05:21
jdprc06i'll get back on here if it doesn't work05:21
Madpilotjdprc06, might want to write some of that down - and good luck05:21
WoCmedpilot, in grub, wouldn't know by any chance if there's an option to force vesa fb, or is vga16 a failback when vesa fails?05:21
jdprc06i did write it down05:21
jdprc06i'm not that much of a noob05:21
Madpilotjdprc06, good :P05:21
wastrelITSa341:  i think you need to apt-get install gnustep-make05:21
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silvaranjdprc06: Come back anyways and tell us even if it does :)05:21
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MadpilotWoC, sorry, was that for me?05:22
ITSa341wastrel   been there done that05:22
Lord_Maynothwow... I just found automatix... awesome stuff05:22
jdprc06ok05:22
WoCyes, sorry i made the typo in your nick05:22
jdprc06wish me luck05:22
Madpilot!tell Lord_Maynoth about automatix05:22
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wastrelITSa341:  sudo updatedb  then locate aggregate.make05:22
ITSa341Lord_Maynoth   be careful  automatix hosed my first Ubuntu install05:22
cozis there a difference between apt-get update and aptitude update?05:22
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MadpilotWoC, I've got no idea, Grub's never broken on me so I know zip about it05:22
Lord_Maynothit seems to work great05:22
Mabus06how do I find out my own local IP?05:23
tritiumLord_Maynoth: it's dangerous.  Check out easyubuntu instead.05:23
silvarancoz: Nope, aptitude supports those commands too just for convenience.05:23
cozifconfig05:23
WoCok, ty anyway Madpilot05:23
intelikeycoz yes about a buck two ninty five05:23
Lord_MaynothI just wish autopackage would catch on05:23
cozsilvaran thanks so no difference at all?05:23
intelikeyno05:23
Lord_Maynothit would make software installation much easier05:23
cozOk thanks05:23
silvarancoz: nope... but if you run aptitude on its own you get the console-based window interface...05:23
FunnyLookinHatI was so pissed off that slashdot posted that praise of Automatix today.  I made sure to comment that it sucked, no wonder it got moderated +5, lol05:23
cozbecasue if there were it would have been toooo late aI already did aptitude upgrade05:23
silvaranYeah, I thought automatix was the electronic equivalent of the dipping bird...?05:23
tritiumLord_Maynoth: there are problems with autopackage05:24
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FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, Exactly!05:24
coztritium what problems05:24
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ITSa341wastrel  doing that now I'll bbiab05:24
Lord_Maynothworks great on firefox 1.5, abiword, gaim 1.5 etc05:24
Lord_Maynothnever had a single problem05:24
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wastrelITSa341:  if you have those files it's yelling about you probably just need to set the GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES environment var to point to the directory they're in.05:24
pianoboy3333What is the command for finding out what space you have on your hardrive?05:24
Lord_Maynothbeats the heck out of waiting years to get current packages05:25
tritiumLord_Maynoth: a few examples don't prove that it's problem-free05:25
WoCpianoboy3333, df -h05:25
_jasonpianoboy3333: df -h05:25
silvaranpianoboy3333: df05:25
Xenguypianoboy3333: df05:25
Lord_Maynothlol05:25
pianoboy3333thx05:25
WoC;] ] ] 05:25
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_jasonpianoboy3333: yes df :)05:25
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FunnyLookinHatlol, and people claim that ubuntu users aren't uber |337...  just look at all that df -h action05:26
ITSa341wastrel  I think I have an idea what you just said.  Are you saying to edit the makefile to point to the actual location of those files if they are different than it expects?05:26
Madpilotdf -h gives more readable results - the -h is "human readable" :P05:26
WoClmao, good point FunnyLookinHat05:26
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: Only 5 responses out of 634 users :)05:26
azadderyup05:26
azadder;)05:26
ITSa341wastrel  I am a relative newbie...but, at least I admit it05:26
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, half of which are idle...  so that ain't bad05:26
silvaranYah :)...05:26
FunnyLookinHatplus I think that just shows they aren't high or something, realizing it had already been answered05:26
wastrelITSa341:  do   export GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/path/to/the/files   then try the make install05:26
intelikeyoh   df -ha05:26
intelikeynow it's six05:27
FunnyLookinHatw00t05:27
FunnyLookinHatdf -ha is kind of silly though05:27
FunnyLookinHat-h is all u really need05:27
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intelikeynot is you have mounted network drives05:28
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Robertechhow list the channels_05:28
Robertech???05:28
FunnyLookinHatbut I do have mounted network drives... and I still find it silly (I'd check on those servers if I wanted to see how full they were I suppose)05:28
intelikey-hlk  then FunnyLookinHat05:28
WoC/list05:28
Kelsey23"/list"05:28
Robertechok thx05:28
Lord_Maynothis it possible to have a 3rd party repository that actually has up to date packages for software like open office firefox etc?05:29
WoCnp05:29
FunnyLookinHat /list05:29
silvaranWoC: How you do that?05:29
FunnyLookinHatoh wait, 3 of us05:29
WoC/say /list05:29
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: It's not as technical a question.05:29
FunnyLookinHatwe are not irc |337, only disc usage |33705:29
silvaranWoC: Ah.05:29
WoCyw [;05:29
silvaranSliding down the slippery slope on the way to #ubuntu-offtopic :)05:29
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intelikeywell i'm not going to advise /list   not on freenode05:29
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Kelsey23Nope05:30
Kelsey23lol05:30
Kelsey23do that on Undernet05:30
Kelsey23lol05:30
intelikeythere too05:30
FunnyLookinHatintelikey, it's better to /list here than on efnet or somethin05:30
benplautwhat media players come with dapper?05:30
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Kelsey23WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER05:30
FunnyLookinHatI advise you to use "startkeylogger" rather than /list05:30
benplauti beleive i've uninstalled all of them :/05:30
UbugtuError: I tried to send you an empty message.05:30
Kelsey23(no, j/k)05:30
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intelikeybut there are smaller networks05:30
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silvaranbenplaut: totem, xine ...05:30
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benplautthanks05:30
brownie17can anyone tell me where i might get some new themes for the themed greeter login screen?05:31
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silvaranbrownie17: art.gnome.org ...05:31
Kelsey23ooo05:31
FunnyLookinHatm-00kie, how strong is your backbone??05:31
FunnyLookinHatDS3?05:31
silvaranbrownie17: untar(gz|bz) into /usr/share/gdm/themes05:31
thomas`hey05:31
thomas`anyone here know anything about smb?05:31
Kelsey23m-00kie: They areny Unreal are they?05:31
m-00kieprobably bigger - the girls all say its really big :)05:31
vbhanunatroll-, are you around?05:31
_jasonbrownie17: gnome-look.org as well05:31
WoClol m-00kie ;] ] ] 05:32
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thomas`i created a new account how do i setup smb to share with windows pc's on network also05:32
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Madpilot!tell brownie17 about themes05:32
thomas`i messed with smb05:32
jdprc06i couldn't add my username to admin05:32
FunnyLookinHatthomas`, all you have to do is go to Places05:32
FunnyLookinHatConnect to Server05:32
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FunnyLookinHatand type in the IP of the comp05:32
_jasonjdprc06: what happened when you tried05:32
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Madpilotjdprc06, did you get an error message?05:33
jdprc06it said that admin does not exists05:33
thomas`k05:33
Madpilotoh05:33
jdprc06there is no group called admin05:33
ispikedhow user-friendly is the install cd's lvm partition maker? I'm going to be using lvm for the first time.05:33
_jasonjdprc06: did you do an expert install?05:33
intelikeygroupadd05:33
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FunnyLookinHatispiked, (very) user friendly.05:33
jdprc06yes, because i had already partitioned my drive05:33
ispikedFunnyLookinHat, cool. so it'll tell me what to do?05:33
ITSa341wastrel  have you ever tried Position or any other gps mapping software or street mapping software in Linux??  I am used to MS Streets and Trips but I really want to take MS off here. Not nearly as bad as when I was dual booting but I get nervous about running two OS's at the same time on the same filesystem05:33
jdprc06i didn't want it to destroy my windows partition05:33
QuinchMe again. Question; i seem to have screwed up my password. Is there a way to reset it?05:33
_jasonjdprc06: so you have root access then?05:33
tritiumjdprc06: it doesn't.  It can resize it easily.05:34
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jdprc06i found that out05:34
jdprc06but i wasn't sure05:34
wastrelITSa341:  i've never used gps on any os :] 05:34
FunnyLookinHatMy PDA has GPS, that's more than enough05:34
_jasonQuinch: boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd username'05:34
devianswhat misconfiguration with samba would cause a particular user account to not be able to login?05:34
intelikeyQuinch yep.  as root  passwd <your,name>05:34
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kanidis there any known reason why my usb mouse would work if it is plugged in before boot, but it I hotplug it, I get an error in dmesg like so: 1473:[4303186.414000]  hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?05:35
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ITSa341FunnyLookinHat   I have no pda and even so a map on a 15in widescreen is easy to read at 70mph with just a glance05:35
yggdrasil_how can i install java and real player05:35
intelikeyQuinch you may have to boot to single to get root access tho05:35
_jasonjdprc06: do you know the root password?05:35
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jdprc06yes05:35
Quinch_Jason, thanks. And Intelikey, that's what's puzzling me; I went to change my username {Quinch}, but now my root password doesn't seem to work either.05:35
tritium!tell yggdrasil_ about restricted05:35
_jasonUbugtu: tell jdprc06 about expert05:35
_jasonubotu: tell jdprc06 about expert05:35
JoshRAI know this is not a dapper channel but does anyone know what the following error message means?05:36
yggdrasil_thanks05:36
JoshRA[4295148.005000]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x57  ascq: 0x0005:36
JoshRA[4295148.010000]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x57  ascq: 0x0005:36
kanid!tell yggdrasil about easyubuntu05:36
intelikeyQuinch you have a passwd set for root ?05:36
FunnyLookinHatITSa341, I use audio for the directions if I need them...  I actually only use the PDA/GPS for backcountry hiking and whatnot05:36
FunnyLookinHatI don't believe in driving directions05:36
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Quinchintelikey: Well, I think so. I used it routinely for installs and so forth.05:36
ITSa341FunnyLookinHat   cool, I use it daily for mapping service calls to remote locations in an area still pretty new to me.05:37
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intelikeyQuinch [alt] +[ctrl] +[F1]   login as root05:37
=== intelikey bets it's not a root passwd tho.
silvaranHow many Beans do you need on ubuntuforums.org before you become Master Roaster?05:37
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jdprc06alright thanks05:37
jdprc06let me try that05:37
JeffraeE: Unable to find a source package for kernel-source-2.6.1205:37
FunnyLookinHatITSa341, cool beans, yea lappys come in handy on the road, they sure do05:38
Jeffraedo I need to add another repository?05:38
Quinchintelikey: Hey, it does still work!05:38
Madpilotsilvaran, I think that's a closely guarded secret :P05:38
silvaranMadpilot: Heheh :)05:38
intelikeyQuinch see05:38
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tritiumJeffrae: you want linux-source, not kernel-source05:38
_jasonsilvaran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134608&highlight=bean+count+status05:38
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Jeffraeok05:38
Jeffraethanks05:38
_jasonsilvaran: the answer is 0 beans05:38
Jeffraetritium, Thank!!05:38
holobytedhow do I config the ubuntu updater to ignore linux-* packages? not interested in being nagged by "update your kernel" messages05:38
intelikeyQuinch passwd Quinch05:38
JeffraeI am trying to configure LIRC05:38
NickGarveythere is no documentation for this at all..05:38
ITSa341FunnyLookinHat   always remember, ALL flying J's truckstops I have ever been to have free wifi hotspots with excellent range for the truckers.05:38
tritiumJeffrae: apt-cache search linux-source to see all available05:38
Jeffraeand it requires some source05:38
Quinchintelikey: Yep, did that as soon as I realized I could.05:39
silvaran_jason: Thanks (Forum Staff, I get it ;)05:39
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intelikeyQuinch are you in admin group ?05:39
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intelikeyor do you use sudodo ?05:39
QuinchIntelikey: Yep. Anyway, thanks again, but I gotta bugger off to work.05:39
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FunnyLookinHatITSa341, oh really?  I will DEFINTELY keep that in mind!05:39
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lnx_is there a way to see what desktop environments are included in the repositories?05:40
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ITSa341FunnyLookinHat   I use them a lot05:40
Jeffraeat one time was it kernel-source?05:40
cheesechokeranyone know how i get rhythmbox to play "MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR"?05:40
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robert__i dunno05:40
Jeffraebecause I am following a little doc on ubuntu'05:40
Jeffraes forums05:40
FunnyLookinHatubotu, tell cheesechoker about restricted formats05:40
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Jeffraethis is an old OLD doc05:40
tritiumJeffrae: no, those are debian sources05:40
robert__any one here use automatix05:40
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CaptainMorganafter installing mscont, and truetype fonts.. Firefox still does not display fonts that are visible in Win's firefox.. any suggestions05:40
CaptainMorgan?05:40
FunnyLookinHatrobert__, NOO05:40
FunnyLookinHatrobert__, Automatix is bad, use easysource05:40
kruncherwhere can i contact someone, or let the ubuntu team know that ive found a few problems?05:40
FunnyLookinHat!automatix05:40
uboturumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.05:40
robert__ok05:41
lnx_is there a way to see what desktop environments are in the repositories?05:41
JeffraeAnyone here use LIRC by chance?05:41
FunnyLookinHatrobert__, sorry, didn't mean to backlash, but slashdot has caused a bit of a problem05:41
liquidanyone here know how i can reboot / shutdown straight from within windowmaker? (ive tried inserting the "shutdown -r now" etc commands, without any response)05:41
silvaranlnx_: just off hand, xubuntu-desktop (xfce), kubuntu-desktop (kde), ubuntu-desktop (gnome)05:41
lnx_silvaran, i knew all those 3, i was wondering if there were any other05:41
wastrel!tell kruncher about bug05:41
FunnyLookinHatlnx_, there is anothre, I forgot what it is called though.. something like Everything or somethin like that05:41
silvaranlnx_: well there are window managers and stuff like fluxbox, fvwm, blackbox, etc..05:42
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silvaranFunnyLookinHat: enlightenment ?05:42
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, that's it!05:42
FunnyLookinHatlol05:42
_jasonlnx_: fluxbox, openbox, blackbox05:42
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: Yeah, I can't wait for dr17... of course, the last major release was october 2000 or something like that, so I'm not holding my breath for rasterman...05:42
pizzadudewhat is the minimal amount of disk space requiredto install ubuntu?05:42
intelikeylnx_ apt-cache search ?05:42
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_jasonlnx_: if you can call those ``desktop environments''05:42
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, hahaha.  I've decided that they should all just stick to either KDE or Gnome and stop making all these offshoots.  but that's a whole other debate05:43
kanidis there any known reason why my usb mouse would work if it is plugged in before boot, but it I hotplug it, I get an error in dmesg like so: 1473:[4303186.414000]  hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?05:43
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: Well that's the thing... a lot of the stuff that he's advocating (and writing) will soon be in the core X (Xgl/Xegl/aiglx)... having trouble with aiglx in dapper myself, need to wait until a few more people get exposed to it.05:43
intelikeyyeah FunnyLookinHat we should all go back to windows where we came from, right ?05:44
silvarankanid: Still??... that's nasty... I wish I could come up with even some ideas for you...05:44
FunnyLookinHatintelikey, OH DEAR LORD NO05:44
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, you said "he"... who are you referring to?  Linus?  Mark Shuttleworth?05:44
intelikeythen maybe change is good ?05:44
kanidsilvaran, yeah, I haven't had any luck at all05:44
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: rasterman05:44
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FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, ooho ok, i am reading it correctly now05:44
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: As long as I'm writing it correctly ;)05:45
kanidsilvaran, I can't wait for xgl+dr1705:45
FunnyLookinHatintelikey, how can you interpret narrowing options down to either KDE or Gnome into "yay windows"?   lol05:45
kanidthat'll look freakin hot05:45
silvarankanid: I can't wait for stable eye candy.05:45
kanidtrue indeed05:45
FunnyLookinHatI can't wait for windows to die.05:45
FunnyLookinHatand microsoft to become a military nuclear waste dump facility.05:45
kanidFunnyLookinHat, it will never happen05:45
ITSa341lol05:45
FunnyLookinHathmm, that was a bit harsh.05:45
silvaranI want Linux to have all the snappy stuff Vista will have before even Vista has it... wouldn't that be a slap in the face to satisfy many a personal vendetta? ;)05:45
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kanidsilvaran, it already does05:46
FunnyLookinHatwait...  LINUX DOES have all the snappy stuff that Vista has05:46
orangedhello05:46
FunnyLookinHatDid anyone read that top 10 reasons to switch to vista from XP articile on yahoo or something?05:46
kanidsilvaran, from what I've seen, Vista isn't that hot05:46
FunnyLookinHatThey were all things linux had already done.05:46
orangedhas anyone had a problem with usb mass storage since the last kernel update?05:46
silvarankanid: Yeah, I know... it's got a vew nice-looking stuff that don't quite work well enough in xgl/aiglx...05:46
kanidsilvaran, and definitely _not_ stable05:46
FunnyLookinHatkanid, you're right.  it's not.    it's just another bloated yet useless release05:46
ITSa341silvaran  just remember, almost everything MS has in Windows was stolen or bought from someone else and then bloated by MS so if ya look at it that way...it's all old news anyway05:47
intelikeysimple FunnyLookinHat M$ wants to narrow options.  i.e.  everyone us that stuff.      but the more options you have other os's  other desktops    other apps  the better the software gets.  and many good codes are made better.05:47
silvarankanid: Or able to run on a sub-$3000 computer... anyways, OT, anybody need help who's getting smothered?05:47
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FunnyLookinHatintelikey, I'm only narrowing to two environments though, and only for one "OS" (Gnu/Linux)... simply because developers have a tendency to not think well when creating and they all just go off on tangents.05:47
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thomas`how can i setup my ubuntu to share on network with windows pc's also on my network05:48
tonyyarussoHow to startx on a different display?05:48
FunnyLookinHatIt's simply the way programmers work when they are project leaders, they are disorganized.05:48
silvarankanid: Just thought of something... there are 3 main usb modules... uhci, ohci and ehci or something like that... maybe try one at a time and blacklist the others until you get one that works?05:48
FunnyLookinHatI'm a programmer, and I admit to it myself05:48
kanidyeah, I'm smothered all right....05:48
thomas`i wanna share some files from linux05:48
silvaranHeheh05:48
MadpilotFunnyLookinHat & co - #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet :P05:48
mathewdoes anyone know whether we need an internet connection to install Ubuntu with Install CD?05:48
kanidsilvaran, I'll give it a shot, can't hurt I suppose05:48
FunnyLookinHatMadpilot, yea, sorry.05:48
V4Vendettais it safe to install the newest gnome on breezy?05:48
FunnyLookinHatmathew, you don't need one, but updates are good to have, esp security updates05:49
ITSa341mathew   no05:49
azadderp2p linux app in the synaptic package manager?05:49
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silvaranazadder: amule/xmule, gnutella ...05:49
Madpilotazadder, BitTorrent is installed by default05:49
Madpilot!p2p05:49
ubotuI heard p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo05:49
FunnyLookinHatazadder, try searching Gnutella?05:49
lauraHello05:49
azadderthank you guys05:49
thomas`its not showing up on my windows pc i tried connecting to ip it does ask fora pw and username what could that be05:50
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tonyyarussoLike what would happen from System > New Login, but I want to start it from another tty with the specific start command, specifying the second graphical display.  How?05:50
shukhrathello all05:50
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orangedcould anyone tell me why the sd card in my camera and a little mp3 player are giving me 'invalid format' errors since the last kernel update?05:50
intelikeymathew if that box is never going to be 'online' then ubuntu is not a good choice of distro's  you would be better with something that you can get the full package tree on disk05:51
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orangedfor some reason automount doesn't try to use vfat05:51
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jdprc06it worked05:51
intelikeyoranged it uses what is in /etc/fstab doesn't it ?05:51
shukhrati would like open FTP access for my folder05:52
regeyaiirc ubuntuforums has a 'no warez' policy, aye?05:52
Madpilotregeya, I'm sure they do - why?05:52
orangedintelikey, i don't have either setup in fstab.. automount used to take care of it05:53
intelikeyyou can get all the warez you want at 127.0.0.105:53
mathewthnaks05:53
orangedintelikey, both in fact, until the last kernel came around05:53
mathewthanks05:53
tritiumregeya: all ubuntu-related sites should05:53
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shukhrathow to open FTP access05:53
Madpilotjdprc06, the groupadd thing worked?05:53
jdprc06yea05:53
jdprc06i got my updates05:53
NickGarveyshukhrat: I don't understand05:54
V4Vendettait's always best to compile from source isn't it?05:54
intelikeyoranged ok.  i don't know about automount, sorry.    but you could check that vfat module is loaded05:54
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thomas`can someone help me with samba please...05:54
Madpilottritium, is the whole 'recover sudo w/ groupadd etc' thing on our wiki somewhere?05:54
NickGarvey!samba05:54
ubotusamba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:54
orangedintelikey, its loaded.. ;) that is what is confusing05:54
shukhratNickGarvey i would like open FTP access for my folder05:54
tonyyarussoV4Vendetta: If you enjoy that sort of thing...05:54
jdprc06but i restarted and now i can't run synaptic05:54
tritiumMadpilot: I doubt it05:54
invisiblekidwhats the problem thomas`05:54
NickGarveyshukhrat: want to start an FTP server then eh?05:54
FunnyLookinHatV4Vendetta, no, not necessarily.  compiling from source usually yields little or no performance benefit to many pre-compiled options and simply takes up time05:54
shukhrathow create FTP service05:55
V4Vendettatonyyarusso, i do05:55
intelikeyhmmm idk oranged05:55
tritiumV4Vendetta: "best"?  Depends on one's needs.05:55
shukhratNickGarvey: Yes05:55
invisiblekidi just actually set up an ftp for the first time, its very easy05:55
tonyyarussoV4Vendetta: Then go for it I guess.  I personally quite enjoy apt-get, but hey, that's me.05:55
NickGarveyshukhrat: as invisiblekid, its pretty easy, I use vsftpd05:55
V4Vendettatonyyarusso, source is fun some times05:55
tonyyarussoV4Vendetta: Could be I suppose.05:55
V4Vendettatonyyarusso, especially with checkinstal05:55
YukiCussV4Vendetta, there are few gains from wasting that time. Don't get into the Gentoo mindset.05:55
Madpilottritium, want to add it somewhere? I barely know the procedure, and it would be a useful resource - it seems to be a common install/config error05:56
invisiblekidi used proftpd05:56
FunnyLookinHatYukiCuss, well put!  gentoo is for script kiddies!05:56
V4VendettaYukiCuss, i always prefer more hands on approaches05:56
YukiCussV4Vendetta, moreover, you sacrifice package management.05:56
silvaranV4Vendetta: I went from redhat->lfs->rolloing my own with RPM->gentoo->ubuntu ... I'm quite happy now05:56
YukiCussV4Vendetta, so do I. Who doesn't? This isn't a `hands on' approach; you'll just frustrate yourself.05:56
intelikeyi like gentoo ok.  i installed gentoo with apt-get install gentoo    :)05:56
kanidFunnyLookinHat, script kiddies?05:56
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YukiCussFunnyLookinHat, :) I tried it once. No no no no not going back.05:56
FunnyLookinHathmm, maybe ubotu can define them05:57
FunnyLookinHat!scriptkiddies05:57
ubotuFunnyLookinHat: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:57
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tritiumV4Vendetta: you can apt-get source, and build from source packages05:57
YukiCussBah.05:57
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FunnyLookinHatA script kiddie is just some kid that thinks he's ultra cool because he can run a bash script05:57
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V4Vendettatritium, i like getting new source from source forge05:57
michaelhow can I use chmod for a folder and everything inside of it?05:57
kanidFunnyLookinHat, I know what they are, but I highly doubt any script kiddies would enjoy ubuntu05:57
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: or worst yet, vbscript05:57
kaniderr gentoo05:57
tonyyarussomichael: -R05:57
NickGarvey!vnc05:57
YukiCussV4Vendetta, http://www.lfs.org/ <-- maybe this is for you. :)05:57
ubotuvnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html05:57
FunnyLookinHatkanid, that's why I said gentoo is for script kidddies05:57
michaelty05:57
FunnyLookinHatkanid, not ubuntu05:57
silvaranmichael: be careful with that...05:57
YukiCussV4Vendetta, wait, wrong link.05:57
shukhratNickGarvey: I downloding vsftpd05:57
michaelwhy?05:57
V4Vendettadunno what lfs is05:57
kanidFunnyLookinHat, I know what they are, but I highly doubt any script kiddies would enjoy gentoo05:57
invisiblekidis dapper supposed to have better support for broadcom wireless laptop cards?05:58
silvaranmichael: find <path_to_folder> -type d | xargs chmod 0755 (for dirs)05:58
kanidthere is too much work involved05:58
YukiCussV4Vendetta, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ <-- *this*.05:58
tonyyarussomichael: That's true.  What folder?  (Don't want to muck up permissions on system files)05:58
silvaranmichael: find <path_to_folder> -type f | xargs chmod 0644 (for files)05:58
FunnyLookinHatkanid, they LOVE it!!  it's like the absolute script kiddie dist.05:58
V4Vendettai like synaptic for updates05:58
V4Vendettabut not for programs05:58
tritiumyes, invisiblekid05:58
invisiblekid:)05:58
YukiCussV4Vendetta, that makes no sense. Synaptic only updates programs you install via it.05:58
michaelmy home folder, i put some backup off of a cd onto it05:58
NickGarveyapt-get for me05:58
mochasguys, can someone help me? my amsn doesnt work after i installed Xgl, i read a lot of forums and did all the solutions they wrote but still cant run it :S05:58
V4VendettaYukiCuss, not true05:58
FunnyLookinHatkanid, they think they're uber |337 becuase they type "emerge" , the dont even know about ./configure make make install heh05:58
YukiCussV4Vendetta, it won't magically update things you install from source.05:58
wastrel#ubuntu-offtopic for script kiddie/gentoo talk :] 05:59
silvaraninvisiblekid: I don't find it does... the new oss broadcom driver is experimental, I had better luck with ndiswrapper and blacklisting the new module.05:59
shukhratNickGarvey: it say could not bind listening IPv4 socket05:59
V4VendettaYukiCuss, sure it does..05:59
kanidFunnyLookinHat, script kiddies know _nothing_ about the scripts they are using, while gentooers generally know a little something about what they're doing05:59
YukiCussV4Vendetta, ...05:59
kanidsometimes05:59
tonyyarussomochas: Xgl's Dapper, right?  Check in #ubuntu+1.05:59
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tritium#ubuntu-xgl as well05:59
invisiblekidive tried ndiswrapper a few times with mine, but i just cant seem to get it working05:59
silvarantritium: I find it's usually pretty quiet in there.05:59
V4VendettaYukiCuss, it does update all installed programs05:59
Madpilotkanid & FunnyLookinHat - #ubuntu-offtopic is still quiet - thanks05:59
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tritiumsilvaran: yeah, probably05:59
YukiCussV4Vendetta, if you install manually from source, it doesn't *know* where to find updates for them, or that they even exist.05:59
FunnyLookinHatkanid, yea, you're right.05:59
shukhratNickGarvey: it say could not bind listening IPv4 socket05:59
silvaranI hope aiglx gets more attention, for therestofus... without nvidia/ati cards.05:59
michaelwhat's wrong with this? ->    $ chmod -R /home/michael05:59
V4VendettaYukiCuss, i dunno.. i know i installed gnormalize from source and it updated it before06:00
FunnyLookinHatMadpilot, sorry to burst your bubble.  but I'm here mostly to offer support, chat tend to ge toff topic sometimes.06:00
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intelikeymichael no name06:00
silvaranmichael: Depending on what the chmod does, you could wipe out the +x on dirs and not be able to access them anymore.06:00
mochastonyyarusso, yep... im in that channel too but i get no answer there06:00
YukiCussV4Vendetta, if you never touched synaptic or apt-get, it won't update it for you. Perhaps it updated itself somehow.06:00
intelikeychmod -R michael:michael /home/michael06:00
tonyyarussomochas: Ah, 'k.  Did you see tritium's too?06:00
kanidMadpilot, sry, not much help here, so I figured I'd chat about something else while waiting06:00
silvaranintelikey: chown06:00
michaelo06:00
YukiCussmichael, what are you actually trying to do?06:00
intelikeyon mod06:00
intelikeyread own06:00
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kanidMadpilot, are you willing/able to assist?06:01
mochastonyyarusso, negative, is that another channel?06:01
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michaeli put some backup folders onto my computer from a cd, but they all get copied as protected06:01
tonyyarussomochas: Yeah, #ubuntu-xgl - I guess it's been separated.06:01
YukiCussmichael, if you want them to be yours, do a chown -R michael /home/wherever06:01
michaelI can change one or a few at a time, but i have too many folders to want to do them 1 at a time06:01
silvaranmichael: chmod -R u+w <path_to_dir>06:01
YukiCussmichael, if you want write access, chmod -R u+w /home/watever06:02
intelikeymichael chmod -R +<something> (or) -<something> /home/michael06:02
michaelk, ty06:02
YukiCussintelikey, that's unsafe.06:02
mochastonyyarusso, ooh yea, Xgl-ubuntu, im on that channel too and no answer also hehe :(06:02
michaelmichael@mlustfield:~$ chmod -R michael:michael /home/michael06:03
michaelchmod: invalid mode string: `michael:michael'06:03
YukiCussmichael, chown**06:03
V4Vendettasomone help me with this ? http://pastebin.com/60687806:03
intelikeyYukiCuss i think no.   it's a lot safer than a number is.06:03
YukiCussintelikey, no, it should be `u+w' or `o-w'.06:03
YukiCussDon't grant world access for no reason.06:03
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silvaranV4Vendetta: what prompted the install of both libfame and libfame0?06:04
V4Vendettasilvaran, transcode i believe06:04
intelikeyYukiCuss -rxw grants what ?06:04
regeyaw00t06:04
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YukiCussintelikey, denies acecss to read/execute/write to everyone.06:04
silvaranV4Vendetta: Do you know what package needs libfame0?06:04
YukiCussintelikey, what's your point? Doing `chmod -R +w /home/michael' would make *everything* in his home world writable.06:04
V4Vendettasilvaran, dvdrip: and transcode i believe06:04
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silvaranV4Vendetta: There are two separate ones... try apt-get remove libfame0 ...06:05
kanidwritable _by everyone_06:05
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YukiCuss(hence `world' writable)06:05
keishinI've been looking around in the help.ubuntu.com samba guides, but I can't find how to share a drive (NTFS) with write permission.  Help?06:05
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V4Vendettasilvaran, http://pastebin.com/60687906:05
wastrelkeishin:  linux can't write to NTFS06:05
silvarankeishin: You can't write to NTFS from Linux.. well, you can, but for all intents and purposes, you can't.06:05
NickGarvey!ntfs06:05
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:05
kanidYukiCuss, hehe I read it 'home world'06:06
kanidheh06:06
YukiCussaah.06:06
keishinerrr...06:06
keishinWell... shit.06:06
kanidthere was I line break on my end06:06
wastrelchmod 70006:06
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tonyyarussoHow to startx on a different display?06:06
tritiumkeishin: language please06:06
YukiCusswastrel, ... o_o06:06
tonyyarussoLike what would happen from System > New Login, but I want to start it from another tty with the specific start command, specifying the second graphical display.  How?06:06
intelikeyYukiCuss you are right,  i don't play with letters in chmod much  only numbers.       thought single entry affected like single number.... my bad.06:06
keishinSorry -_-06:06
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ITSa341wastrel   well, that sure changed the error messages a bit  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1037306:06
silvaranV4Vendetta: you must be on dapper, right?06:06
V4Vendettano06:06
NickGarveywhen you write to NTFS you just need to make the file exactly the same size as it was before right06:06
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YukiCussintelikey, aah, no. the numbers are actually quite easy to understand :)06:06
keishinSo uh... something completely different to try, or back to windows I go?06:06
silvarantonyyarusso: startx -- :106:06
wd3i want to auto mount my vfat, the instruction say to edit my /etc/fstab how?06:07
intelikeyyeah i do numbers YukiCuss06:07
tonyyarussosilvaran: 'k, thanks.06:07
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V4Vendettasilvaran, i cant' seem to get rid of this error ..06:07
NickGarvey!fstab06:07
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.06:07
AngryElf!lirc06:07
YukiCussintelikey, *oh*.06:07
ubotu[lirc]  at http://www.lirc.org06:07
YukiCussintelikey, I read that backwards. >< my bad.06:07
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keishinI would reformat the drives, but I've sorta already got a few hundred gigs that I can't exactly shuffle while I do it06:07
intelikey:)06:07
silvaranV4Vendetta: If you are on dapper, then apt-get remove gstreamer-0.8-fame libfame006:07
AngryElfhas anybody here used irrecord to create their own lirc.conf file??06:07
V4Vendettasilvaran, i'm not06:07
wastrelITSa341:  yeah that's different- now you're getting build errors, congratulations :] 06:07
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V4Vendettasilvaran, do it anyway ?06:08
silvaranV4Vendetta: That's really weird... must be a bug in breezy then.06:08
frank23anybody heard about this? there will be a free legal way to distribute mp3 support in gstreamer: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html06:08
tritiumfrank23: did you see the release date on that?06:08
ITSa341wastrel   where would you start? reinstall gcc?06:08
silvaranV4Vendetta: Well, if you can live without fame support in gstreamer (I'd say try it), then remove gstreamer0.8-fame and libfame0, then proceed.06:08
cafuegofrank23: yes, the integer arithmetic based based one is not patented06:08
V4Vendettasilvaran, says i don't have them06:08
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wastrelITSa341:  that seems to be an objective C something or other... you prolly need objc libs & stuff.06:09
tonyyarussoAnyone used XPDE?  (I know, I know, ... it's a curiousity issue only)06:09
_jasonITSa341: don't use make install, use checkinstall (this has nothing to do with your problem though)06:09
frank23tritium: yeah. it's not new06:09
_jasonITSa341: did you install build-essential?06:09
wastrelITSa341:  try installing gobjc-4.006:09
frank23cafuego: is the problem performance?06:09
silvaranV4Vendetta: You don't have gstreamer0.8-fame ? ... I thought your second pastebin indicated you did.06:09
cafuegofrank23: Not on today's hardware06:09
V4Vendettasilvaran, says i don't have it06:09
ITSa341_jason  I had to install build-essential a ago06:09
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cafuegofrank23: Although it does eat more cpu than the float arith one06:09
silvaranV4Vendetta: What about the apt-get -f install ?06:10
V4Vendettasilvaran, doesn't work06:10
tonyyarussosilvaran: So I'm actually trying /usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde -- :1, and I got "xpde: cannot connect to X server" - any thoughts on that?06:10
silvaranV4Vendetta: Let that clear out, then do your package selection again.06:10
frank23cafuego: but why wouldn't ubuntu use it for example?06:10
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silvarantonyyarusso: xpde? ... I thought you said startx06:10
silvaranV4Vendetta: Does apt-get -f install give you errors?06:10
V4Vendettasilvaran, it's all about libfame-0.9 som,e how, but i can't get rid of it06:10
V4Vendettasilvaran, come to a channel with me?06:11
tonyyarussosilvaran: Yeah, I thought it would be a fairly general form, so I thought I'd ask that way.06:11
silvaranV4Vendetta: dpkg -P libfame-0.906:11
silvaranV4Vendetta: Sure, /msg if you're registered06:11
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cafuegofrank23: gstreamer-mad does do mp306:11
qpxxpqHow do I install KDE on a freshinstall of Ubuntu?06:11
V4Vendettahow do i open a window on xchat?06:11
cafuego(afaik)06:11
silvarantonyyarusso: Nah, startx has its own set of params... "cannot connect to X server" would mean there's no xserver running, or it's looking for the wrong one... try "DISPLAY=:0" startxpde06:12
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tonyyarussoqpxxpq: sudo apt-get install {kubuntu-desktop,kde,kdebase} <-- depending on your preference for amount of it06:12
tonyyarussosilvaran: Okay.06:12
frank23cafuego: yes but it can't be included in the standard distribution. (I don't know why) would the other one qualify?06:12
qpxxpqtonyyarusso: I want the whole kit-n-kaboodle w/ KDE06:13
tonyyarussoqpxxpq: Then kubuntu-desktop06:13
holobytedhow do I config the ubuntu updater to ignore linux-* packages? not interested in being nagged by "update your kernel" messages06:13
qpxxpqI've already done 'apt-get install kde-core' but I dont think that is it06:13
wd3how do i update breezy to current06:13
wastrelbreezy is current06:13
qpxxpqtonyyaruss: Downloading now, thx. :)06:13
wd3wastrel im sorry i have 5.10 isn't there a new one?06:14
qpxxpqtonyyarusso: Would the next step be 'sudo dpkg -i kubuntu-desktop' ?06:14
tonyyarussosilvaran: Bash complained about command not found for DISPLAY06:14
wastrelwd3:  next release is called dapper, it's still in testing06:14
michaelI used '$ chown -R michael:michael /home/michael06:14
michael' but it didn't add write abilities06:14
tonyyarussoqpxxpq: Nope.  The next step would be to return to your login screen, click "Sessions", select KDE, and log in.06:14
wd3wastrel i thought it was a 5.12 or 5.16 or something, is that the dapper?06:15
qpxxpqtonyyarusso: Oh, so it retreives the KDE software AND installs it at the sametime with the apt-get install ?06:15
tonyyarussoqpxxpq: Correct.  Isn't apt sweet like that?06:15
wastrelwd3:  5.10 is breezy, the current release (october 2005,  5.10)   dapper is going to be 6.something06:15
jlduggerquestion: does ubuntu make popcon data publicly available?06:15
qpxxpqtonyyarusso: Very :D. I was looking at Debian but my laptop and Debian don't mix well. So I went to ubuntu.06:16
Whatsisnamewhat is popcorn data?06:16
ITSa341wastrel  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1037506:16
jlduggerpop-con06:16
jlduggerpopularity contest06:16
ITSa341wastrel I must be making progress  LOL  the error messages keep changing06:16
frank23if dapper isn't released in april, will it still be 6.04?06:16
silvarantonyyarusso: It shouldn't... a line by itself, no quotes?06:16
DJ_Tobiasare there any c programming rooms on this server?06:17
intelikeywell only good way to chmod home is with some code,   like   find /home/user -type f -exec chmod 640 "{}" \;      so you don't break subdirs.  but that is kinda hap-hazard also.   one could   chmod 640 /home/user -R ; find /home/user -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;      would maybe be better depending on a few things, like what they wanted and if they had any executable code in /home ....06:17
michaelHow can I set the privleges of a directory and everything inside of it into 77706:17
qpxxpqintelikey: I just got a headache reading that.06:17
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YukiCussmichael, don't use 77706:17
qpxxpqintelikey: (I'm a noob ;P)06:17
wd3wastrel thanks. i want to automount my 2nd hd vfat, i mounted it manually, to automount it said to edit /etc/fstab how do i use the editor?06:17
YukiCussmichael, use 755 or 64406:17
michaelwhy?06:17
Xenguy/a/b06:18
Xenguybah06:18
YukiCussmichael, 777 grants access to EVERYONE.06:18
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tonyyarussosilvaran: I think the quotes were the problem.  How do I first start an X server for that display?  I want it on :1, just to check it out (Gnome is already up on :0).06:18
Whatsisnamedamn POS autogen06:18
wastrelITSa341:  see now it's getting difficult.  you set up the build environment (installed gnumake, pointed at the makefile directory, installed objc compiler) but these are either coding errors or libary version mismatch problems or something...   i don't know how to help you further.06:18
YukiCussmichael, 755 or 644 doesn't include write access to people who aren't you.06:18
michaelok, how do I do that?06:18
silvarantonyyarusso: startx -- :106:18
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intelikeymichael  also of note (read my post up there ^)  dirs have to be exec06:18
ITSa341wastrel   thanks for all the help you have already given me06:18
Whatsisnamethese freedesktop packages are a damn pain in the ass06:18
michaelexec??06:18
wd3wastrel how do i use the editor to edit the /etc/fstab?06:19
intelikeyyes.  executable06:19
wastrelITSa341:  check the mailing list or contact the author of the program :] 06:19
vejanhow can I mount an external fat16 HD in ubuntu using USB enclosure06:19
michaelo06:19
tonyyarussosilvaran: But that starts up Gnome and everything.06:19
michaelhow do i do that to all of them though, 755 sounds good06:19
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wastrelwd3:  first save a copy of /etc/fstab  in case you mess it up.   then  sudo nano /etc/fstab06:19
Xenguywd3: gedit (gui); nano (command-line)06:19
fabiananyone who speak spanish06:20
fabian?06:20
silvarantonyyarusso: Well, you could always run bare X, by just doing 'X :1 &' (no quotes)06:20
Jeffraewhy would something only be available as source when going in synaptic?06:20
silvaran!es06:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:20
intelikeymichael  try    -->    chmod 640 /home/user -R ; find /home/user -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;06:20
tonyyarussosilvaran: Okay.06:20
JeffraeI notices lirc-modules is only in source06:20
_jasonITSa341: what is it you are compiling?06:20
intelikeywhere user is you06:20
wd3wastrel thanks06:20
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michaeldo i put the ; at the end?06:20
intelikeyyep06:20
vanscorpionhello06:20
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ITSa341_jason "Position"  it's a gps enabled mapping and routing program06:20
qpxxpqIs there a downside to using 'nano' ?06:21
YukiCussqpxxpq, it's not as cool as vim. :)06:21
_jasonITSa341: I see06:21
wastrelqpxxpq:  it can be more difficult to understand than gedit06:21
ITSa341_jason http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/position/06:21
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Xenguyqpxxpq: what do you mean?06:21
intelikeyif you want world readable michael  change the  zero to  four06:21
YukiCussqpxxpq, seriously though, you can't get around in it as fast as vim. vim is rather powerful.06:21
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qpxxpqXenguy: What is the best text editor?06:21
michaelmichael@mlustfield:~$ sudo chmod 640 /home/michael -R ; find /home/michael -type d -exec chmod 750 "{}" \;06:21
michaelfind: cannot get current directory: Permission denied06:21
intelikeyif you want world readable michael  change the  zero to  four     last zero to five06:22
wd3wastrel i did the sudo nano /etc/fstab, how do i save the file, there's no save as06:22
Xenguyqpxxpq: for what purpose?  I use Vim06:22
YukiCussyay Xenguy :)06:22
tonyyarussosilvaran: Works!06:22
qpxxpqXenguy: All purposes?06:22
XenguyYukiCuss: vim is an adventure :-)06:22
ITSa341-jason  I got the gps unit installed and working but I hate gpsdrive.  the user interface sucks compared to MS Streets and Trips and Position was recommended to me as being even better than the MS version06:22
silvarantonyyarusso: Good stuff..06:22
michaelwhy don't i have permission?06:22
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YukiCussXenguy, at least a thousand times better than emacs. o_O06:22
Xenguyqpxxpq: pretty much; steep learning curve for 3 months, then many rewards :-)06:23
intelikeymichael why don't you own the stuff in your home ?06:23
wastrelwd3:  sorry i don't actually use nano :]   vi guy myself06:23
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YukiCusswd3, ctrl+o06:23
qpxxpqIs Vi diff from Vim?06:23
XenguyYukiCuss: heh06:23
ads__i need some help please :)06:23
intelikeyno permission cause you don't own it michael06:23
YukiCussqpxxpq, vi is an old version of vim.06:23
YukiCussor rather, vim is a new vi.06:23
silvaranmichael: The first chmod makes your home directory 640, which is -rw-r----- ... your home directory HAS to be +x in order to read it.06:23
wastrelqpxxpq:  not on ubuntu06:23
Xenguyqpxxpq: vim is 'VI Improved'06:23
silvaranmichael: sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael06:23
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Xenguyqpxxpq: er, iMproved06:24
ads__does anyone know how i can permanently remove a process? I'm trying to kill gam_server but it keeps coming back06:24
michaelidk, i can change them just fine if I right click and change it in the permission tab06:24
YukiCussXenguy, vim reports it as `Vi IMproved'06:24
wastrelgood lord you're still trying to chmod this directory?06:24
XenguyYukiCuss: sure enough06:24
jbroomehahah06:24
intelikeywhich brings us full circle to what i said the first time you asked michael  ---> sudo chown -R michael:michael /home/michael06:24
qpxxpqIt appears that KDE that is on Debian is different from that of what I just loaded into unbuntu06:24
intelikeyown yout home06:24
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intelikeyown your home06:25
s|kwhat do I do with a bz2 file?06:25
silvaranmichael: Are you too good for your home?06:25
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silvarans|k: Is it .bz2 or .tar.bz2 ?06:25
s|k.tar.bz206:25
michaelwhat the hell, now I can't access my home directory anymore06:25
silvarans|k: tar jxf whatever.tar.bz206:25
ads__does anyone know how i can permanently remove a process? I'm trying to kill gam_server but it keeps coming back06:25
silvaranmichael: Did you do the sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael ?06:26
s|ksilvaran: thanks06:26
silvaranWho's idea was it to start the recursive chmod from the guy's home directory??06:26
qpxxpqIs there a way to get the exact same KDE that is in Debian into the Ubuntu KDE?06:26
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Xenguy!services06:26
charlyhello every body06:26
ubotu[services]  to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/06:27
silvaranqpxxpq: It's likely that it's only a different theme .. can someone back me up/correct me on this?06:27
intelikeymichael  are you  "michael" ?       whoami06:27
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Dr_Willisqpxxpq,  hmmm...  proberly not easially06:27
frank23Ads_ if you're trying to get rid of the memory leak, I updated gam to a newer version using a debian unstable repository06:27
michaeli did 'sudo chown -R michael:michael /home/michael' and it killed my access to my home folder06:27
Xenguysilvaran: what's the question?06:27
qpxxpqsilvaran: It seems that there were a lot more programs in the debian KDE06:27
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ads__frank23 how do i go about doing that..sorry am not that advanced with ubuntu yet06:27
intelikeythen you must not be michael06:28
Xenguysilvaran: nm06:28
cowamongcowsis it possible to create a partition that i can install windows xp on and dual boot, without erasing my current ubuntu files?06:28
michaeli did 'sudo chmod 0700 /home/michael' and now it doesn't deny me, but it won't open06:28
michaelwhoami06:28
silvaranXenguy: qpxxpq wants to know if he can get the same kde in ubuntu that he had in debian06:28
michael\whoami06:28
Dr_Willisqpxxpq,  apt-get install the programs ya want.06:28
qpxxpqDr_Willis: Not sure which ones there were, but there a vast amount more06:28
cowamongcowsright now i only have the ubuntu OS on the computer, i wanna make it dual boot to XP06:28
silvaranmichael: "whoami" from the prompt06:28
frank23ads__: is the memory usage the problem you have? do you know how to add a source?06:28
silvaranmichael: not the chat window06:28
Xenguyqpxxpq: yeah, /msg ubotu kde06:28
Dr_Willisqpxxpq,  a vast # of ones that you never used. :P06:28
michaelmichael@mlustfield:~$ whoami06:29
michaelmichael06:29
michaelmichael@mlustfield:~$06:29
qpxxpqDr_Willis: Never got that far into it :D06:29
wastrelqpxxpq:  ubuntu doesn't use the debian menu system afaik, so apps don't automagically update into the kde menus like they do in debian (some do)06:29
mathewOne more question - is it necessary to have a network card to install with the Install CD. My NIC & Internet will be up later but I want install Ubuntu now to check it out.06:29
wastrelqpxxpq:  or you may just have to install stuff as you want it06:29
michaeli'm the only person that uses this computer06:29
qpxxpq=(06:29
ads__frank23: yes the memory useage problem is what i have, i'm not sure about adding a source.....i may have done something like that before but don't know the method by name06:29
silvaranmichael: OK let's fix some perms... find /home/michael -type d -exec chmod 700 "{}" \;06:29
Dr_Willisqpxxpq,  debian often has a lot of packages dependiogn on what repos you have added.  Ive never noticed any imporntant ones that were not allready in ubuntu.06:30
wastrelqpxxpq:  go shopping in synaptic for stuff that looks interesting :] 06:30
michaelcan I do 755?06:30
silvaranubotu: tell qpxxpq about repos06:30
qpxxpqWhere is synaptic?06:30
jlduggerWhatsisname, http://popcon.ubuntu.com/06:30
silvaranmichael: Yup ...06:30
frank23ads__: in synaptics go to manage repositories and add a new source (custom source) I can give you the deb line06:30
silvaranmichael: Go for it...06:30
ads__frank23: ok just a second06:30
silvaranmichael: Since you're the only one who uses the computer... if it was multi-user, you'd then do a chmod 0700 /home/michael to prevent other people from accessing your home.06:30
michaelok, that's working now06:31
michaeldang, i thought this whole thing was going to be simple - thanks06:31
wastrelheh06:31
frank23ads__: now it's very important that you delete that source after you update gam.06:31
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ads__frank23: ok i am in synaptic06:31
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silvaranmichael: It was going to be simple.  Too many people with too much knowledge.  We need some more newbies in here :)06:31
qpxxpqwastrel: Where is synaptic?06:31
s|kI'm getting this error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool06:32
michaellol06:32
s|kwhat am I missing?06:32
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qpxxpqsilvaran: I'm noobie enough for ALL of you :D06:32
silvaranHeheh06:32
wastrelqpxxpq:  it's in the gnome menu - dunno about kde.  you could sudo synaptic @ the command line to open it06:32
qpxxpqwastrel: Is there a hot-key to bring up the terminal?06:32
silvaranqpxxpq: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager ... then type your user password.06:32
dansanis there a place in the installation where I can set my hdb1 and hdb2 to be mounted?06:32
frank23ads__: did you find the add custom source thing?06:32
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wastrelqpxxpq:  dunno for KDE - alt-f2 in gnome brings up a "run" dialog06:33
silvaranqpxxpq, wastrel: Same for KDE.06:33
qpxxpqsilvaran: There is no 'administraton' folder06:33
ads__frank23: no i didn't there's only a custom button but not add custom source........06:33
sergio_hello, does anybodu knows the equivalent form in ubuntu 5.10 of the restore in windows?06:33
dansanI saw the partitioner come up, but there was no place to define mount points for other hdds06:33
silvaranqpxxpq: That's because you're on KDE, and I didn't realize that until wastrel mentioned it :)06:33
frank23ads__: yeah that's the one06:33
Dr_Willis'restore' ?06:33
s|ksilvaran: do you know what I might be missing?06:33
ads__frank23: k i've click it06:33
qpxxpqF2 -> Sudo synaptic works06:34
Dr_WillisYou mean the system/Regiestry restore?06:34
frank23ads__: deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/debian/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib  paste that in06:34
silvarans|k: where are you getting this error exactly?06:34
charlysergio do you speak spanish???06:34
jlduggersergio_, "restore" as in undelete, or as in "fix my broken computer"?06:34
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s|ksilvaran: I'm configuring a new version of rhythmbox06:34
s|kand it's not configuring06:34
silvarans|k: Oh you're building it yourself?06:34
s|ksilvaran: yes I want the audioscrobbler plugin06:34
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frank23ads__: then click reload, search for gamin and upgrade it06:35
silvarans|k: Be prepared to install another 100 packages for the build: "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox"06:35
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s|ksilvaran: 100 plus that one?06:35
mathewHas anybody used the Dlink DWL-G520 with 5.10? Does it detected automatically when you install with the install CD?06:35
sergio_jldugger: for take the computer to it's original form, exactly after you install ubuntu, with that configuration06:35
silvarans|k: That will install everything you need to build rhythmbox, according to ubuntu's repository (ie: it'll download all the packages the maintainer used to build rhythmbox)...06:35
frank23ads__: I think it should upgrade 3 packages total06:35
ads__frank23: ok06:36
frank23ads__: make sure you don't upgrade the whole system06:36
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silvarans|k: Something like that, just see what I said about apt-get build-dep above, and run that... everything's automatic, but the package list can be dizzying :)06:36
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ads__frank23: ok i'll try06:36
FunnyLookinHatmathew, best place to check for that would be ubuntuforums.org  but my guess would be that it does automatically work, as does most wireless and wired network hardware06:36
silvaranmathew: wireless right?06:36
s|ksilvaran: thanks06:37
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: I thought only a few wireless cards work "out of the box" -- that you still need to do a win32 binary driver install a la ndiswrapper06:37
mathewSILVARAN: yes, it is a wireless card.06:37
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frank23ads__: did it work?06:37
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s|kwhy isn't my text editor opening now06:37
s|k:(06:37
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dleHi.  Anyone run a Siemens SpeedStream ADSL modem under Linux?  With USB rather than ethernet?06:37
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, I've had great luck with several different wireless cards, so maybe it's just me?06:37
ads__frank23: yes it did06:38
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silvaranmathew: It's possible that it'll work... I'm not sure about the chipset, you'd need to google for it to see if it's supported OSS by Linux -- which is the only way it's going to work right off the bat without further configuration.06:38
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esc_apeubuntu rules06:38
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: It might just be a coincidence... some ARE supported... I've yet to come across one personally that's supported, but I'm aware that they ARE out there and they're popular... I'm probably the isolated one :)06:38
s|ksilvaran: it says Build-Depends dependency for rhythmbox cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libdbus-glib-1-dev can satisfy version requirements06:38
ads__frank23: thanks a lot man it seems fine now :)06:39
frank23ads__: great now remove the repository I gave you (or at least disable it) in principle you should only use ubuntu sources but for this it's ok06:39
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, best luck happens with Intel based wireless chipsets06:39
ads__frank23: ok man :)06:39
silvarans|k: breezy or dapper?06:39
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s|ksilvaran: breezy06:39
frank23ads__: no problem ;)06:39
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silvaranFunnyLookinHat: Strange you say that, I found the i810 (video) driver had good hardware support too, for an OSS card... must be Intel then.  I've got an nforce-based mobo on my laptop with a broadcom wireless chip...06:39
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mathewSILVARAN: chipset on Atheros for sures? Any idea?06:40
ads__frank23: :) do you think you can help me with one more problem dude?06:40
frank23ads__: oh and kill gam_server once more to restart it06:40
ads__frank23: i've done that :)P06:40
Mabus06can you set your ssh server to listen on a different port than 22?06:40
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frank23ads__: if I can06:40
silvarans|k: hang on06:40
kassandragreetings everyone, I have the strangest problem ever that my elite friend couldn't help me fix06:40
s|kokay06:40
WhatsisnameMabus06, absolutely06:40
Whatsisnameedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config06:40
YukiCussMabus06, see /etc/ssh/sshd_config06:40
dansanMabus06, yeah06:40
intelikeyMabus06 that ^06:40
V4Vendettacan somone tell me why beep media player loses it's settings each time i close it?06:40
WhatsisnameV4Vendetta, do you have write permissions on the configuration file06:41
silvaranmathew: Yup, it should be supported.06:41
kassandraanytime an application launches it crashes immediatly for some reason06:41
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FunnyLookinHatkassandra, type out your problem and maybe someone knows the fix?06:41
silvarans|k: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" and try the "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" again?06:41
ads__frank23: ok , well basically when booting up ubuntu it gets stuck on "setting up LVM volume groups" for about a minute then resumes loading ubutnu.....any ideas?06:41
WhatsisnameV4Vendetta, if you ever ran it as root using sudo, you probably don't06:41
s|ksilvaran: okay06:41
V4VendettaWhatsisname, ?06:41
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kassandrai can't get back to my desktop after reboot because the login screen won't load, all i see is a spinning cursor06:41
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V4VendettaWhatsisname, i never ran it as root06:42
silvaranV4Vendetta: besides that issue, is beep any good?  I haven't tried it in ages.06:42
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Xenostalgia<-- is qdxxqm06:42
frank23ads__: if you're not using lvm (you're probably not) you can disable the service completely06:42
Whatsisnamewell06:42
Whatsisnametry deleting ~/.bmp06:42
mathewSILVARAN: Thanks. I will try to install tonight. Do you think that I can install this without internet as I need to setup WPA after the install?06:42
FunnyLookinHatkassandra, wow, stumped me, hopefully someone else in here knows how to fix that.06:42
s|ksilvaran: same thing :(06:42
Whatsisnamethen rerunning beep06:42
kassandrai've no idea whats wrong :(06:42
Whatsisnameeither that or chowning it to you06:42
ads__frank23: ok what is lvm? secondly how would i disable it?06:42
silvaranmathew: If you have the install disc, it'll get you up and running without needing internet access during the install.06:42
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kassandrai was installing cairo and some other things and everything was working fine06:43
V4Vendettasilvaran, yea it is, i just needed to 777 the config file, it sounds much better then xmms06:43
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kassandraand then all the sudden i noticed firefox was refusing to start06:43
Whatsisnamemm cairo06:43
wastrelwhat's cairo?06:43
Whatsisnamei just built cairo a couple minutes ago06:43
silvarans|k: sudo apt-get install intltool and then try configure again06:43
kassandraannd i couldn't make new terminal windows06:43
Xenostalgia://06:43
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XenostalgiaXenostalgia06:43
Whatsisnamewastrel, its some kind of rendering engine06:43
silvaranV4Vendetta: 777?  it needs to be executable and writable by everyone?06:43
Whatsisnameor something like that06:43
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kassandrai tried reboot and the login window won't start either06:43
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frank23ads__: lvm=logical volume management. It's to handle partitions differently I think. to disable it ummm06:43
intelikeykassandra what does    cat .xsession-errors    tell you the reason is ?06:43
mathewSILVARAN: Thanks, Yes I got the install downloaded & brunt on a CD to try tonight. Thanks a lot for your answers.06:44
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V4Vendettasilvaran, nah, but i always just go 77706:44
kassandrano idea, i'm a umm, 6 hour linux veteran lol06:44
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silvaranmathew: Not a problem, good luck, and enjoy.06:44
intelikeyoh no login window.06:44
kassandracan I run that at terminal?06:44
Xenostalgia:\06:44
gt24Question about /home and alike during install.  Should I create different partitions for them during install or not (for the purposes of backups in case of needing to reinstall the OS)?06:44
silvaranV4Vendetta: Dangerous... you might want to do 666 at the very most for something like a config file.06:44
intelikeyyes06:44
V4Vendettasilvaran, okay, i'll look into it06:44
kassandraokay06:44
silvarangt24: It's up to you... I do, but it's a personal preference for the most part.06:44
kassandraill give it a try06:44
frank23how do you disable a service ? rc-update something but I don't remember06:45
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intelikeybut if youare not getting to the gui login that wont help us06:45
gt24If I do reinstall the OS, will it destroy all data in the partition that the OS is installing to?06:45
silvaranfrank23: update-rc.d -f <servicename> remove06:45
kassandrai am getting a gui login06:45
esc_apeis there a guide for setting up a separate /home partition?06:45
kassandrai see a spinning cursor and brown background06:45
kassandrabut gnome doesn't seem to start to get me to the login window06:45
silvarangt24: Yeah, it's generally a good idea to format that partition.. so if you expect you'll be reinstalling later, separate out /home06:45
intelikeykassandra ok look in    cat .xsession-errors06:45
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silvaran!partition06:46
ubotusilvaran: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:46
kassandraokay, brb06:46
s|ksilvaran: it says I need libgnomeui-2.0, is that safe to try it with apt-get?06:46
frank23ads__: I guess it would be  sudo update-rc.d -f lvm remove06:46
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silvarans|k: "libgnomeui-dev"06:46
s|kokay06:46
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ads__frank23: ok i will try it06:47
gt24During install (since I never separated /home), do I tell the installer about /home or would that just cause it to reformat the /home partition?06:47
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dansangt24 what do you mean by "do I tell the installer about home?"06:47
dansando you have home in a diff drive? diff partition?06:47
silvaranThose partitioning guides on the wiki are pretty useless.06:47
wastrelgt24:  if you don't have a separate /home partition and you repartition your drive, you'll erase /home along with everything else06:48
silvarangt24: Go ahead and tell the installer about home, make sure the "format" option is OFF or it'll format /home too.  Otherwise, it'll just mount it for you.06:48
Whatsisnamehmm06:48
gt24silvaran: Ok, that was what I ment06:48
dansanthat's assuming that you want to put /home somewhere else06:48
gt24How large should /home be, compared to / ?06:49
Whatsisnameuh oh I hope I don't blow up my computer06:49
wastrel/home is generally "everything else" after a reasonable / patition is allocated.06:49
ads__frank32: btw after u gave me the link to that respository to fix the gamin problem ....i was notified of updates for my system, should i have ignored that?06:49
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kassandraokay back06:49
silvarangt24: ... and a reasonable "/" is probably 4-8 gigs... how big is your hd?06:50
dansanwastrel, define "reasonable /"06:50
frank23ads__: yes. did you?06:50
silvaranErr, at least 8 gigs, rather... some of those packages take up a lot of space in the cache.06:50
ads__frank32: yes i did06:50
wastreldansan:  what silvaran said :] 06:50
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gt24I have a 14 Gb hole for Linux at the moment...06:50
frank23ads__: good. If you updated then, you would now be a proud debian user06:50
silvarangt24: How much RAM?06:50
gt241 Gb06:51
Jay_Rif I change my BIOS setting IOAPIC to disable ubuntu breezy will not boot why?06:51
phar0eubuntu won't see my VT8251 chipset SATA controller >< anyone know if the kernel in the next release of ubuntu will support it?06:51
ads__frank32: lmfao, i see thanks for the heads up06:51
pinpointcan anyone recommend ftp clients that come close flashfxp for win32?06:51
frank23ads__: no prob :)06:51
phar0epinpoint: SmartFTP06:51
silvarangt24: Whew... okay, you don't really have _all that much_ space, so let's go with no swap, 7 gig "/" and 7 gig "/home"06:51
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pinpointphar0e: for ubuntu ofcourse06:51
kassandragnome cups icon 4980 : warning PP  request failed with status 103006:52
phar0epinpoint: you said for win32!06:52
silvaranI hate telling people "no swap", but the guy's got 1 gig of RAM... if he had 512MB I'd have said 512MB swap, which is the same thing only slower, right? ;)06:52
Phlostenhowdy all06:52
pinpointflashxp in win32* erm06:52
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gt24I could try to scrape up more space... I just need to resize a few partitions....  darn hungry Windows06:52
dansan"no swap" eh? never heard that one before06:52
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, I have two gigs of ram... does that mean I can remove swap  ;)06:52
wastrelmy / is about 4GB currently06:52
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frank23silvaran: why no swap? I have 1 gig ram and 2 gigs swap06:53
silvaranfrank23: Do you ever use the swap?06:53
phar0eI have one large partition, 1.2Terabytes /06:53
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: And same question to you :)06:53
dansanmine is about 4GB also06:53
XenguyFunnyLookinHat: I've heard it's always good to have swap06:53
gt24I could perhaps add 10 Gb to that (total 24 Gb then), for the install, if needed06:53
gt24I would need to resize a partition to do that06:53
FunnyLookinHatsilvaran, Xenguy , althought it's always good to have swap, you really don't need it with more ram.  The more ram you have, the less swap you really need, I'd say 512 is minimum though06:53
silvarangt24: Yeah, then you could use 1gb of swap to make the other people in the channel happy.06:53
frank23silvaran: if I start swapping, it means I have something that is using way too much ram. what happens if you run out of ram and have no swap?06:53
dansan14GB should be more than enough06:53
silvaranFunnyLookinHat: THANK you...06:54
kanidsilvaran, any idea why ehci_hcd is still loading even though it's in /etc/modprobe/blacklist?06:54
gt24silvaran: :)06:54
XenguyFunnyLookinHat: suit yourself :-)06:54
silvarankanid: Did you prefix ehci_hcd with the "blacklist" keyword when you put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?06:54
s|ksilvaran: yay after about 10 more packages I had to find it finally configured :)06:54
kanidyeah06:54
kassandraintelikey?06:54
kassandragnome cups icon 4980 : warning PP  request failed with status 103006:54
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intelikeykassandra ok, try this in the console, and then try to login to gnome again after;         sudo rm .*auth*          i'm betting you just installed something following a wiki that said to run  'sudo nautilus'   it should be 'gksudo nautilus'   or what ever app it was..06:55
fr33mindWhat is the best for torrent files?06:55
silvarangt24: Everybody gets so wrapped up with swap... I have a server at work with 4 gigs of ram and 2 gigs of swap... even though it's a database server and otherwise multi-purpose server, the swap space is the least-touched area on the drive... it doesn't need it.06:55
ads__!cli06:55
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org06:55
gt24Does /home need to be a linux native partition, or can it be FAT32 (to allow Windows XP to read it), or should I go another direction to make it readable to Windows XP?06:55
silvarans|k: Good stuff... I wish build-dep had worked though...06:55
kassandraokay, ill give that a try and see if it cleans up the insta-crash problem06:55
silvarankanid: I wonder if hotplug has a similar facility.. I wish I knew...06:55
s|ksilvaran: all the stuff I had to find had the ubuntu icon on it in synaptic06:55
s|kwow that make is taking forever06:56
s|k:/06:56
dansan!swap06:56
ubotuswap is, like, used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq06:56
silvarans|k: Yeah, but I don't think it installs (the -dev stuff) by default... does anyone know if there's a general "ubuntu-dev" package or anything?06:56
silvaranI had a whole rebuttal message typed up for ubotu and then realized... whoops... he's not a person.06:57
s|khaha06:57
ads__frank32: i have to go now, i jut wanted to say that i really am greatful for the help you have provided and have appreciated your guidance...thanks again :)06:57
gt24heh06:57
silvaran!botsnack06:57
ubotu:)06:57
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Whatsisnameahhh fixed06:57
frank23ads__: np. hope disabling that service helped06:57
s|kwow this make is taking a while, I'm afraid the power might go out during one of these 'make''s one day06:57
fr33mindgt24: It's not a good idea to have /home in fat32...  I think should be some problems with perms...06:57
s|khow would you fix it06:57
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ads__frank32: hope so :) cya around06:58
V4Vendetta!smlib06:58
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, V4Vendetta06:58
silvarans|k: Not sure how easy it is to set up with ubuntu, but have you considered ccache? (or better yet, buying a UPS?) :)06:58
V4Vendettai need smlib but i can't find it anywhere06:58
silvaran!ups06:58
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, silvaran06:58
linuxpoetDoes anyone see anything wrong with the iwconfig output06:58
linuxpoethttp://pastebin.com/60691706:58
fr33mindgt24: mount another partition for fat32...06:58
s|ksilvaran: I have a UPS, but you know, imagine if I didn't06:58
s|kwhat happens? :P06:58
kassandrastill no change06:58
=== pinpoint looking gui ftp clients.
dansans|k wait till you try gentoo06:58
pinpointno gftp06:58
V4Vendettapinpoint, gftp06:58
V4Vendettaah06:58
silvarans|k: Be glad you're not compiling OpenOffice.org06:58
fr33mindgt24: there are some drivers in windows to be able to read reiser or ext3 partitions..06:58
kanidsilvaran, do you have any suggestions as to where I can go to find out more?06:58
fr33mindgt24: google for it ;)06:59
kassandraI havn't done anything aith nautilus to the best of my knowledge06:59
kanidsilvaran, anyone I might be able to talk to06:59
gt24fr33mind: I might just go that route06:59
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silvarankanid: Google for the error messages... rather than looking for the SOLUTION, look for the PROBLEM, and you'll end up with a whole bunch of links to the problem... and some of those links will lead to the solution ;)...06:59
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silvarankanid: Try to find people with the same, or similar, problem... that's the best advice I have I guess ;)06:59
kassandraafaik i've installed cairo, updated some things for it, and compiled a theme for cairo clearlooks that my friend made06:59
kanidsilvaran, that's how I got here....06:59
techrushwww.google.com/linux06:59
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s|ksilvaran: the make finished, and I started rhythmbox and it's still the old version07:00
kanidheh07:00
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silvarans|k: where did it install to?07:00
s|ker07:00
s|kI just07:00
gt24One last question... USB drives... would Linux have problems reading/writing to them?  I thought I heard that Linux didn't do this too well (it never gets around to actually writing the file to the drive, etc)07:00
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s|ktyped make?07:00
silvarans|k: How did you run ./configure?07:00
s|kjust ./configure07:00
fr33mindgt24: but a good way should be to let your /home in linux but, make a mount on /home/user/win on a  fat3207:00
silvarankanid: Sorry dude...07:00
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silvarans|k: OK, so now if you were to do a "sudo make install", you'd end up installing rhythmbox into /usr/local/07:00
fr33mindgt24: I don't have any problems with usb drive.07:01
s|ksilvaran: I should do that now?07:01
kassandraany ideas intelikey?07:01
silvarans|k: From there, you could try "/usr/local/bin/rhythmbox", and hopefully it'll work... I just kind of hoped you knew what you were doing WRT going out and compiling apps on your own :)07:01
silvarans|k: Sure, give 'er a shot.07:01
gt24fr33mind: can you clarify what you mean by /home/user/win?07:01
s|ksilvaran: what did I just do?07:01
kanidsilvaran, thanks for your help though, you've helped a bunch07:01
s|ksilvaran: can I undo it if it's bad?07:01
silvarankanid: I hope I have, best of luck..07:01
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silvarans|k: hmm... do this "make -n uninstall" and see what happens.07:01
dtothepanyone have an exact date of the dapper release?07:01
dansan"undo" usually means find all reelevant files and rm them07:01
s|kk07:01
silvaranWhat's up with google.com/linux ?  What's it for exactly?07:02
fr33mindgt24: mkdir /home/gt24/win and mount a fat32 partition in it.07:02
thrice`dtothep, it was to be april 20, but I think it'll be delayed07:02
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YukiCusssilvaran, it might just be a normal search with `linux' in it.07:02
kanidsilvaran, do you knwo of anyway to do all of the hardware detection/module loading stuff without rebooting07:02
s|ksilvaran: it did a bunch of stuff :P07:02
dtothepaww07:02
silvarandtothep: Probably until June07:02
gt24dtothep: I believe it is going to be June 1st... it was in the news recently...07:02
thrice`no...07:02
kassandra=\07:02
thrice`it was april 20, and Mark proposed waiting 6 weeks07:02
intelikeykassandra lets see if it is local configs or if you have really hosed something,   sudo adduser test     and set a simple password when prompted for it.   then try to login as test and see if gnome can start,   if so it is a local config/lockfile/theme or the like.   if not you have hosed it pretty good.07:02
thrice`so...sometime after :)07:02
silvarankanid: Something to do with hotplug, I'm sure, but I doubt it will actually unload modules for you... "man modprobe" to see if you can unload modules, and their dependant modules too.07:03
fr33mindWhat people use for bit torrent files??07:03
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gt24fr33mind: So, essentially, it would just be a custom mount point?07:03
kanidk07:03
kassandraokay07:03
Mr_Congenialityhttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8640/mirconwine0yu.png <---HAWT!!!07:03
dansan!azzuerus07:03
ubotudansan: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:03
fr33mindgt24: why not?07:03
silvarans|k: OK, which means that "uninstall" is a valid target for the Makefile.  This then means that once you install it (into /usr/local, where it won't muck up the rest of the system), you should be safe to "make uninstall" from within the source directory (don't delete it!!) to uninstall it if it doesn't work.07:03
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dansan!azuerus07:03
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dansan07:03
silvarans|k: No guarantees though... rhythmbox integrates with GNOME, and it might have a hard time doing that installed in /usr/local ...07:03
gt24fr33mind: Ok, that makes sense.  :)07:03
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thrice`!azureus07:03
ubotuazureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo07:04
fr33mindgt24: that way, config files and files need only in linux won't be available to windows ;)07:04
silvarans|k: Strange though, have you considered finding another way of installing the audioscrobbler plugin without rebuilding rhythmbox?07:04
dansanthere we go, that one :) for bittorrents07:04
fr33mindgt24: put only real shared files on the share partition07:04
bringinhiiiiiiii07:04
s|ksilvaran: yes but it runs from a shell and not very well07:04
silvarans|k: What runs from a shell?07:04
gt24fr33mind: Ah, makes sense07:04
dansanI can't spell worth c*ap tonight07:04
s|ksilvaran: the audioscrobbler plugin07:04
silvarans|k: That's a little odd... last.fm right?07:04
s|ksilvaran: yes07:05
fr33mindbeurk, Java... sucks07:05
fr33mind:p07:05
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gt24dtothep: I confirmed it at digg (well, if that is a confirmation), June 1st for Dapper07:05
bringinhiiiiiiii07:05
s|ksilvaran: I don't understand what you meant by this:07:05
frank23dansan: fr33mind that way of installing azureus is not good. the autoupdater won't be able to work. I think it's better to install as a user in /home07:05
s|ksilvaran | s|k: OK, which means that "uninstall" is a valid target for the Makefile.  This then means that once you install it (into /usr/local, where it won't muck up the rest of the system), you should be safe to "make uninstall" from within the source directory (don't delete it!!) to uninstall it if it doesn't work.07:05
silvarans|k: What prompted you to try rebuilding rhythmbox to get the audioscrobbler plugin?  Did last.fm point you to it, or does rhythmbox source come packaged with the plugin?07:05
dansanwish they ported uTorrent to linux07:05
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silvarans|k: Once you "sudo make install", you can then "sudo make uninstall" to undo it.07:06
s|ksilvaran: someone told me that the new version comes with audioscrobbler pluggied in07:06
wastreljuicy07:06
silvarandansan: Me too... utorrent rocks...07:06
silvarans|k: Do you have an exact version number?07:06
s|k9.307:06
gt24Thanks for the help everybody.07:06
s|k0.9.3*07:06
silvaranright... hang on07:06
s|kI currently have 0.9.107:06
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fr33mindfreeloader and gui-bitornado are simplistik app...07:07
silvarans|k: What version do you have?07:07
s|kI currently have 0.9.107:07
michaeljust curious... I made a backup of my music files using Roxio Create, is there any any way of getting them back w/o using a windows emulator?07:07
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silvaran!info rhythmbox07:08
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB07:08
silvaran!info rhythmbox dapper07:08
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1756 kB, Installed size: 6328 kB07:08
silvarans|k: So if breezy has 0.9.0, how did you get 0.9.1?07:08
kassandragnome does not start automatically when logging in as test07:08
s|ksilvaran: I don't know, I don't think ubotu is right07:08
dtothep!info dvdrip07:08
ubotudvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB07:08
silvaranThanks ubotu :)07:08
Whatsisnamemaybe he built it from source07:08
kassandrait may already be running if i'm seeing my spinning cursor07:08
dtothepi like ubotu :)07:08
silvaranWhatsisname: That's what he's doing now...07:08
Whatsisnameoh07:08
intelikeythat's not a good sign kassandra07:08
kassandrai would think so anyways07:09
kassandrahmm07:09
kassandraoh dear07:09
silvarans|k: Maybe if you're eager enough to compile from source, you're daring enough to try Dapper just to get the audioscrobbler functionality :)07:09
maximilianohan provado dsniff?07:09
maximilianohi07:09
s|ksilvaran: I don't know, how stable is it? I use ubuntu as my main os07:09
silvaran!info rhythmbox breezy-backports07:09
kassandramybe 4th time's the charm, this is my 3rd install of ubuntu, first to actually complete installing07:09
Whatsisnamewhy not just build a few packages rather than risk blowing up his whole computer07:09
silvaranWhatsisname: All he's trying to do is compile rhythmbox...07:09
s|ksilvaran: I'm thinking about configuring again and then doing the 'sudo make install'07:10
silvarans|k: I personally find it quite stable, I have it on two vastly different machines (one a laptop, another a desktop, vastly different hardware configurations)07:10
Whatsisnames|k if you do a reconfigure07:10
silvarans|k: Ohhh... you haven't tried that?  Try it!07:10
Whatsisnameyou should do a make clean07:10
intelikeykassandra digression ?   you installed theems last ?   (the way you mentioned it?)   try remocing them first.07:10
kassandracan't I just like, downgrade to the stable release through apt-get or something?07:10
Whatsisnamethen make to rebuild it07:10
s|ksilvaran: my biggest problem with breezy has been sound07:10
s|ksilvaran: that took a lot of work to get it to work, I don't know if I'm ready to do that again right now07:10
kassandrano idea how to do that, from cli or otherwise, lol07:10
Whatsisnamejesus gtk+ is taking a long ass time to build07:10
silvarans|k: I had a few problems with dapper a few days ago, but they just "went away", I think through the ongoing work that's been going into it.07:11
intelikeykassandra.  what command installed them ?07:11
silvarankassandra: You're on dapper?07:11
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silvaran(like you could be "on" dapper like a kind of drug)07:11
s|kWhatsisname: what were you saying about a 'make clean' ?07:11
silvarans|k: Just if you had to re-run ./configure07:11
intelikeyor should i ask what app ?07:11
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michaelhow can I do the windows version of defrag - or isn't that used in linux?07:11
s|ksilvaran: I had to re-run it a bunch of times07:11
dtothepmichael u dont need defrag in linux07:12
Whatsisnameif you reconfigure, use make clean to blow away any compiled files from the old configuarion07:12
YukiCussmichael, not used. Not necessary. :)07:12
michaelcool07:12
silvaranmichael: Windows won't be able to defrag your Linux discs... and from what I understand, Linux doesn't really need it except on really full drives.07:12
YukiCussdtothep, whatever those characters are, they're not normal.07:12
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silvaran!defrag07:12
ubotusilvaran: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:12
dtothephaha im using mirc in windoze07:12
dansanthere is still fragmentation, but the fs deals with it better07:12
kassandrayes, dapper, i upgraded from breezy cairo because only supports it, and my friend's theme, which i installed and upgraded many things to even be able to compile, should be working fine07:12
YukiCussaah..07:12
fr33mindfrank23, how do you do that in home user account?07:12
dtothepwhat is breezy cairo?07:12
kassandraactually07:12
kassandrai never installed the theme yet07:12
silvarankassandra: Ahhh... what a great reason to change distributions... for the theme :)...07:12
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silvarankassandra: You _might_ be able to get away with replacing "dapper" with 'breezy" in your sources.list, but check with the folks in #ubuntu+1 to be sure.07:13
kassandraall i did was update gtk and a few other things like she said07:13
intelikeythen it's just the upgrade process that has hosed the system.07:13
kassandrahmm07:13
kassandrayeah i had to do that to update to dapper07:13
kassandraactually that failed so i just replaced my source list with my friend's, as she suggested07:13
wastrelok.07:13
dansanhmm... going backwards usually has big issues, it did in debian, I know07:13
silvarankassandra: So to get to dapper you did "apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade" right? (possibly skipping the middle one, which is fine)07:13
Icemananyone know a full linux system that will install to fat32 and run from a c:\ prompt07:14
kassandrayes, something like that07:14
silvaranIceman: cygwin07:14
wastrelanyone know how to flip an image around the horizontal axis with imagemagick?07:14
kassandrai had to do a couple of other things before that because the command wasn't working, i had to mess with source list first07:14
techrushis there a way to turn off that annoying black outline that scrolls when i minimize a window ?07:14
Icemansilvaran cygwin from dos .. but it;s not linux :(07:14
dansancygwin is as close as it gets, not 100% everything you wished to have, but has a lot07:14
s|ksilvaran: are you running xgl?07:14
silvarankassandra: Yeah that's nasty... my update was smooth, I wish people wouldn't have to swap around sources.list files...07:14
frank23fr33mind: you download the latest azureus for linux from the website.  put the file somewhere in your home directory   tar xjvf azureus.something.tar.bz2  cd azureus and run ./azureus07:14
dtothepsorry07:14
silvaranIceman: Sorry, the only other way to get a "full linux system" is to use an emulator, like qemu or vmware07:15
silvarans|k: Yup07:15
frank23fr33mind: you need the latest sun java as well for this07:15
kassandrahmm, i'll just reinstall and format again i  guess, unless apt get can downgrade me easily07:15
s|ksilvaran: nice :/ I think I'll wait either for the beta or for the stable07:15
silvarankassandra: If you're going to reformat, why not try the downgrade and let us know if it actually works :)07:15
wastreltechrush:  if you find out, let me know07:15
Icemanno way to transfer the filesystem and run it from dos ?07:15
silvarans|k: Yeah, beta's coming in about a month...07:15
kassandrayeah, i'll give it a try07:15
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Icemani got the file system on a fat32 drive but cannot load07:16
fr33mindfrank23: java is ok.07:16
kassandratheres nothing on the drive07:16
wastrelzipslack runs on fat32 doesn't it?07:16
fr33mindfrank23: but... it will open files in firefox?07:16
silvaranIceman: fat32 is wholly inadequate for Linux...07:16
Icemanwastrel zipslack lacks x and kde ...07:16
kassandrathe ubuntu installer had little regard for my 1.5hr windows install that I did last night07:16
dtothepiceman why do u want linux on fat32?07:16
frank23fr33mind: the torrents? I don't know... I always save the .torrent somewhere and then open it with azureus directly07:16
silvaranIceman: If you absolutely had to, you COULD create a big multi-gig file, and then mount -o loop it as another filesystem (reiser or ext), but you're not going to get the integration with Windows you seem to be implying you want.07:17
kassandraso how would I do this apt get thing from ctrl+alt+f1 login?07:17
silvarankassandra: Little regard?   You must have let it take the whole drive...07:17
s|ksilvaran: rhythmbox is crashing now07:17
kassandranope07:17
fr33mind??? azureus.org ask me to send in my email????07:17
silvarans|k: Yeah... that's the best you're going to get with something like rhythmbox, I'm afraid.07:17
intelikeykassandra you like jokes?         Q. what do linux user do ?    A. install software.07:17
frank23fr33mind: no. maybe you have the wrong sire07:17
kassandrai had it use free space, and then i split that up into root, swap, and another 20 gigs07:17
dtotheplol intelikey07:17
frank23fr33mind: site07:17
kassandra=\07:17
s|ksilvaran: so I can't use it anymore? :(07:17
silvaranintelikey: What does a gentoo user do? Compile software... :)07:18
s|ksilvaran: I'm going to try rebooting07:18
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dansanQ. what do windows users do?  A. Uninstall malware07:18
frank23fr33mind: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/07:18
silvarankassandra: And it wiped out your WIndows?07:18
kassandrasorry, i'm just a lowly Mac user who was stuck with windows for 3 years07:18
kassandrayeah lol07:18
Icemanused to be winlinux 2003 ... but kernerl old as heck ...07:18
chemaja_Q: What do Foresight Linux users do? A: Who?!?07:18
kassandratotally wiped it out, no idea why07:18
intelikeysilvaran brag about their system07:18
kassandranot a problem it was a a clean install07:18
kassandrabut still07:18
silvarankassandra: At the Alt+Ctrl+F1 login (console)... the downgrade would be something like "sudo apt-get update" (after you edited your sources.list) followed by an "apt-get dist-upgrade" ..07:18
silvaranAnyone else familiar with a downgrade, speak now, or forever hold your pee.07:19
dansanQ. What do Mac users do?  A. Do? I thought computers were made to behold!07:19
kassandrahow culd i edit sources.list from cli?07:19
pvd2006How can you get quicktime/.mov files to place in linux? I got the URL of the .mov file and tried to load it into totom-video player and it isnt working even though I downloaded all the codecs.07:19
silvaranintelikey: I did what now?07:19
Icemandansan very true .... and viruses ..... winblows07:19
YukiCussdansan, :)07:19
pvd2006is there a media player that will play a .mov file on linux?07:19
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s|ksilvaran: yay it's not crashing anymore :)07:19
silvarankassandra: Edit it before you jump to the console...07:19
dtothepor vim07:19
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intelikey<silvaran> intelikey: What does a gentoo user do? Compile software... :)   <intelikey> silvaran brag about their system07:19
kassandrahow can i edit if i can't login to my desktop?07:19
Icemani got the filesystem on a fat32 drive ... but no loader ....07:19
silvarans|k: A reboot fixed it???  When you said you were going to reboot I shook my head...07:20
dansanif you are a beginer, nano is a good editor for the cli07:20
dtothepkassandra use vim07:20
frank23kassandra: you can use nano07:20
s|ksilvaran: no I didn't reboot, but the reboot is for luck :P07:20
silvaranintelikey: Whoops, did I hit enter on that?  I thought I deleted it (dumb joke)... but yeah you're absolutely right, the fanboys get a little grating.07:20
Icemantried loadlin .. but tells me wrong compression when it starts07:20
silvarans|k: Oh...07:20
kassandrahow do i use such tools?07:20
s|ksilvaran: you needs lots of luck :P07:20
dansanvim has super cow powers, but it is a bit harder to start with07:20
kassandraare they already installed?07:20
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dtothepur right on that, but i guess im used to it07:20
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Icemanhow to migrate slax or dsl and zipslack ...07:21
dansanthey shold be already there07:21
frank23fr33mind: a good place to put azureus is  ~/opt  then when you extract it will create ~/opt/azureus07:21
silvarankassandra: Can you get into your desktop gui?07:21
Madpilotkassandra, use nano, it's the sanest & simplest of the console editors07:21
s|ksilvaran: works nicely, but funny enough there's nothing about audioscrobbler in the menus anywhere lol07:21
silvarankassandra: Go with Madpilot ... nano's easier to use.07:21
kassandraif i could I wouldn't be posting here07:21
silvarans|k: help->about, make sure you're running the right one.07:21
intelikeykassandra if it's linux  either  vi is installed......... or i set it up.    no exceptions   lol07:22
=== techrush votes for nano
s|ksilvaran: yeah I'm running the right one :)07:22
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s|ksilvaran: it's totally different07:22
=== dtothep votes vi
s|keven the sound is better07:22
silvarans|k: Well that sucks... I find it under Edit->Preferences, Audioscrobbler tab.07:22
intelikeyvi is good.   down with vi.07:22
dansanvim and emacs are more powerful editors, but they take a bit of learning07:22
kassandrahow do i get into these and then choose what I want to edit? where is everything/what commands would I need to use?07:22
s|ksilvaran: nope not there :007:22
dansanif you just want to quickly edit a file, nano is going to be your best bet07:23
silvarans|k: And Help->About says 0.9.3(.1)?07:23
frank23vi especially. you can't just start it and use it immediately without learning it07:23
pvd2006Mplayer, doesnt even play .mov files:-\07:23
s|ksilvaran: Rhythmbox 0.9.307:23
dansanme thinks that vlc might play .mov files07:23
pvd2006Ah, ill check07:23
silvaranpvd2006: you need the codecs... go to mplayer's hq (google for mplayer) and get the all-200xxxxx codec pack.07:23
kassandrait does on os x07:23
frank23pvd2006: you need w32codecs07:23
frank23!w32codecs07:24
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:24
kassandraor i think it did anyways07:24
silvarans|k: Go back to your rhythmbox source and type "./configure --help 2>&1 |grep -i scrobbler"07:24
pvd2006have w32codecs07:24
pvd2006thanks though07:24
pvd2006ill try that07:24
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s|ksilvaran: k07:24
dansanok everyone, quick poll... name your current window manager07:25
kassandrai suppose my problem is beyond the scope of your expertise, oh well, ill try the apt get downgrade thing and format if it doesn't work, i have no use for linux anyways other than to dink around and hope I learn something07:25
kassandraAqua07:25
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silvaranShoot... I should know better than to go first in these things.07:25
kassandraor wait, Quartz would be more accurate i think07:25
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s|kI can't believe I didn't download the right version07:25
silvarans|k: Did you get any output from that ./configure command?07:25
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silvarandtothep: so it'd be metacity07:26
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dtothepic07:26
s|ksilvaran: yes I got a lot of output07:26
dtothepim still kinda a linux newb07:26
dtothepbut i can get around07:26
s|ksilvaran: pastebin it?07:26
silvarans|k: sure07:26
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kassandrathanks for your help anyways everyone, sorry I'm not really smart enough to use much of it07:26
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kassandrabyebye!07:26
dansanlaters07:26
befordscreen07:26
silvaranbeford: :)07:27
beford:p07:27
silvaranAhhh... screen -r (do some work) Ctrl+A-D ... I love it.07:27
dansanvery handy in gentoo installs.... screen (emerge something) C^A,D come back next day... done!07:28
befordyea. my linux partition got fux0red. i'm using a shell.07:28
s|ksilvaran: actually I didn't type it right last time07:28
highvoltageonly thing with screen is, it' needs a lot of CTRL+A-L's :/07:28
silvarandansan: Next day?  How about next week?07:28
silvarans|k: Yeah I d/l'd the thing ... can you pastebin your "config.log" (in the root source folder)07:28
s|ksilvaran: it just says --disable-audioscrobbler     Disable Audioscrobbler support in Rhythmbox07:28
wastrelbah07:29
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dansanI almost cried after trying to install OOffice in gentoo07:29
s|ksilvaran: okay07:29
silvarandansan: There IS a -bin ebuild btw :)07:29
dansanyes, I know07:29
silvaranI wish Sun would smarten up and fix their build system and code portability.07:29
chemaja_Aah Gentoo. So tempting; so impractical.07:29
dansanthere also is a -bin for firefox, and I had to use it after trying to compile it myself07:30
chemaja_(for me)07:30
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intelikeywell if they release dapper on schedual  i hope they don't issue iso's to shippit until some of the major bugs are worked out.07:30
silvaranintelikey: It's been delayed, it's official... I think the vote was 6:1 in favor of a delay.07:30
silvaraniirc07:30
dansanseems to me that it's sad that the machines that would actually benefit the most from gentoo (older ones that need stuff more tweaked to work better) are the worst ones to install gentoo on07:30
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intelikeyk07:30
frank23silvaran: is that a ratio or can only 7 people vote?07:31
silvaranfrank23: Sorry, 7 people voted.07:31
silvaranI know nothing about the hierarchy up there in ubuntu deity land.07:31
chemajadansan: yea; but the admin just uses a fast box to compile and make packages.07:31
s|ksilvaran: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/60693607:31
frank23silvaran: who are those 7? just wondering07:31
silvaranDunno07:31
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silvaranThere are #ubuntu-meeting logs somewhere.07:31
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intelikey<frank23> silvaran: is that a ratio or can only 7 people vote? <--- hehhe   yes !07:32
Ads_ ubuntu rocks XD 07:32
chemajadansan: as soon as i stop being so indecisive, i'm going to buy an AMD X2 3200 with 2GB RAM and 500GB storage :)07:32
silvarans|k: You must be missing a dependency to build rhythmbox... Line 1297 of that pastebin: "Audioscrobbler disabled"... try "--enable-audioscrobbler" in your ./configure, and if that doesn't work, you're going to need to track down the dependency :(07:32
silvaranintelikey: Picky, picky :)07:32
dansanchemaja! I'm very decisive, but I can't find extra ca$h for it...07:33
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intelikeylol    well it's still a ratio, i mean07:33
s|ksilvaran: okay07:33
frank23intelikey: lol yes it is07:33
chemajadansan: thankfully i've got the cash... :)07:33
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silvarans|k: Essentially, you have the right source, but not enough for the build to include audioscrobbler support... and that's the pain-in-the-ass that is autotools (./configure; make; make install) -- a lot of the time they "silently" omit features...07:33
intelikeyit just struck me funny that's all.07:34
dansan:)07:34
silvaranAND off to bed for silvaran... sorry I can't stay s|k, but good luck... night folks.07:34
fr33mindfrank23, azureus work...07:34
fr33mindfrank23: I'm looking to find a way to plugin with firefox07:34
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fr33mindfrank23, I wonder if it was a good idea to install the torrent search bar in firefox..07:35
frank23fr33mind: can you choose the open with... program to be azureus?07:35
wd3dfdd07:35
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frank23s|k: there is a package named rbscrobbler....07:35
wd3fff\07:36
dansanfrank23, should be able to set firefox to use azureus by default for those files07:36
frank23fr33mind: I don't know what torrent bar that is07:36
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fr33mindfrank23, There are link (in mininova.org) to azureus magnet... don't know how to make it work.07:36
fr33mindfrank23, torrent bar in firefox extensions... you can add it.  Don't know exactly...07:37
frank23fr33mind: ok07:37
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PuppiesOnAcidWhat is a synonym for "sellable"07:37
wd3hey i just installed automatix, i don't see firefox 1.507:37
intelikeymerchendice07:38
Madpilot!automatix07:38
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ubotuI heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.07:38
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wd3how do i uninstall automatix and software it upgraded07:39
s|kyeah I see people with automatix issues and nivida in the forums from time to time07:39
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cuencan anyone quickly help me with the GCONF-EDITOR APPS/COMPIZ part of the Xgl tutorial pls? i don't get any responses in the ubuntu-xgl and ubuntu+1 rooms07:39
wd3how do i uninstall automatix07:40
frank23automatix was on slashdot today07:40
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dtothepsudo apt-get uninstall automatix07:40
dtothepjust a suggestion07:40
michaelback again__ how can I play .wmv files?07:40
wd3frank23 what's slashdot?07:40
s|kfrank23: what did they say about it?07:40
michaelpreferably through totem07:40
befordomg. slashdot.org07:40
wd3dtothep thanks07:40
intelikey!restricted formats07:40
uboturestricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:40
s|kwd3: slashdot is news for nerds07:41
frank23wd3: that will not undo the changes made by automatix07:41
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befordmichael: w32codes07:41
intelikeymichael https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:41
wd3ohhh no how do i undo07:41
pvd2006to untar a file do you just tar --extract07:41
pvd2006?07:41
Zonnycuen: whats your prob then?07:41
befordtar -fx07:41
nboundhow do i set up a printer to work over the network?07:41
frank23s|k: the article said that it was useful but had to be run 3 times for it to do all the changes (it crashed a few times I think)07:41
pvd2006so tar -fx filename...07:41
s|kwd3: have you tried searching the forums?07:41
nexyanybody know how i can right click with my powerbook?07:41
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frank23s|k: the comments where divided.07:42
s|kfrank23: I'm going to stay away from it, poor wd3 :(07:42
befordpvd2006: tar -xf file.tar07:42
wd3slk ooooooh is it that bad?07:42
pvd2006its actually a .tar.bz makes any difference?07:42
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s|kwd3: I don't know07:43
s|kwd3: what are you trying to do with it?07:43
pvd2006nevermind07:43
wd3slk  it was a suggestion for newbies in the forum07:43
pvd2006I got it to work, thanks Bedford.07:43
dtotheppvd2006 try using bunzip if tar doesnt work, i cant remember if tar will do it or not07:43
frank23wd3: I never tried it but I think it's more unpredictable.  easyubuntu is the same type of tool but is said to be much safer07:43
dtothepnvm then07:43
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wd3frank thanks07:44
painkilerhey guys07:44
smogHow would you go about finding your network ip address?07:44
wd3slk it's recomd for easy install of all programs07:44
dtothepsmog, type ifconfig in a console07:44
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smogipconfig doesn't work07:44
frank23wd3: I know but for a minority of people it can screw up things07:45
pvd2006just one more question to copy all files from one directory to a new directory you would use CP with what parameters?07:45
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pvd2006I need to start reading man pages07:45
s|kSilvaran left :(07:45
digitHello, I have a quick question about ripping speeds under breezy.  I have a usb 2 drive (lite-on), seen as a scsi device. (scd0).  I'm getti07:45
digitg around 1.2x-1.9x07:45
dtothepsmog, use ifconfig, with an f07:45
digitI don't think I have to futz around with DMA, since it's scsi.07:45
smogoh thanks07:46
dtothepnp07:46
phiber_opticdoes anybody know hot wo compile a c++ code?07:46
wd3frank it's suppose to install firefox 1.5 how do i activate it07:46
dansanpvd2006 cp -r07:46
Angel_DexHow doi make the icons for my mounted devices stop apearing on my desktop?07:46
frank23wd3: did you run automatix? or just installed it?07:46
pvd2006thanks07:46
wd3frank i ran it :o(07:46
intelikeyInterFace CONFIGuration tool   hmmmm07:46
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digitThe real kicker is that once, randomly, I heard the drive speed up and I got 17x.  The next cd was slow.07:46
frank23wd3: and it completed successfuly?07:47
wd3frank yes07:47
frank23wd3: is there a new firefox link in the menu somewhere?07:47
wd3frank no07:47
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dtothepfrank23, u should just be able to use the old link07:47
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rixthI'm looking to ask somone who uses a laptop that has the Intel 2200 wireless card in it a question. Does anyone have this?07:47
frank23wd3: try the old link07:47
digitI also don't think it's a gnome-polling-the-drive-to-often issue since I went into failsafe and ripped straight from paranoia.07:47
dtotheprixth, i used to, whats the prob?07:48
Angel_Dexanyone?07:48
wd3frank / dtothep  when i go to "about firefox" it says 1.007:48
eobanbnexy, i believe it's F11?07:48
dtothephmm07:48
digitAngel: do you want the icons to not appear or for them to be stopped automounting?07:48
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frank23wd3: close all firefox windows then start it again07:48
rixthdtothep, does it have an external do-hickey for an external antenna? Or is it integrated onto the motherboard?07:49
Angel_Dexdigit not apear i prefer iconless desktop with the drive mount applet in the pannel07:49
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dtothepintegrated07:49
wd3frank i restarted my compu. 4x still the same07:49
eobanbnexy, actually F11 is middle click, sorry, right is F1207:49
s|kfrank23: I got it to install 0.9.3 and audioscrobbler and it's connecting and sending the info :D07:49
MadpilotAngel_Dex, check gconf, there's an option somewhere in the nautilus/desktop section for having mounted volumes appear as desktop icons07:49
frank23s|k: ok. just installing the scrobbler package worked?07:50
Angel_Dexdigit i dont see why pple find Icons usefull >.> they are a hassel to get to if you have alota windows open If you put everything on the pannel its alwyas there to click07:50
digitAngel: applications->system tools->configuration editor ==07:50
digitin configuration editor:07:50
digitapps->nautilus->desktop07:50
digiton the right:07:50
digituncheck "volume_visible"07:50
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wd3frank should i go to synaptic and use that?07:50
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intelikeyi prefer iconless and no drive mount applet07:50
dtothepwd3, u need a repository with firefox 1.5 in it if ur going to use synaptic07:51
s|kfrank23: no I had to reconfigure the entire thing with --enable audioscrobbler and install a missing dependency07:51
s|knot in that order07:51
Angel_DexMadpilot & digit Many thanks ^^07:51
digitI think that should do it.  I'm not actually at my ubuntu box, but at another gnome machine.07:51
dtothepim not sure of any that do, besides the dapper ones apprarently07:51
frank23wd3: firefox 1.5 doesn't work?07:51
frank23s|k: ok07:51
wd3dtothep thanks07:51
Angel_Dexdigit works!07:51
digityay!07:51
wd3frank i agree07:51
Angel_DexWhoot!07:51
Angel_Dexlol07:51
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Franciscohello can you help me. I want to put RADIO On mode my wifi coz I do not have idea. "how did I do."07:51
Angel_DexOnto another problem! lol07:51
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wd3frank / dtothp when i dl it from mozilla but couldnt  install it how do u uncompress file07:52
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|37th|TriggerHey all07:52
|37th|TriggerDon't suppose someone could help me?07:52
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frank23wd3: I'm not sure where automatix installs ff1.5 but look in /opt/firefox for it07:52
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Angel_Dexdigit i used a pendrive on a windows box under the admin acount and now ubuntu says its read only And it wont let me change that becuase well it says its read only >.>07:52
michaeli can play videos w/ mozilla-mplayer now, but it freezes after the first 2sec07:52
dtothepwd3, what is the file extension07:52
TriGzScreen is all like... Messed up. I think xconfig is knackard.07:53
cmugMorning, how do I define user specifically a default encoding? I want the system to default to UTF8, but a single user wants to use iso8859-15. I already edited .bashrc "export LANG=en_US" but its not enough, KDE still defaults to UTF8. Ideas?07:53
digithave you mounted it as root using the mount command?07:53
highvoltageTriGz: ctrl+a L cleans up screen07:53
Angel_Dexdigit automount prevents that >.>07:53
wd3frank / dtothep i'll check in opt. what browser r u two using07:53
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nbound!printer07:53
ubotufrom memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org07:53
digithmm07:53
dtothepim using firfox 1.5 but im in windoze right now07:53
wd3dtothep ok07:54
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dtothepTriGz what king of vid card are u using?07:54
digitI'd try disabling automounter and trying to mount it as root/sudo07:54
nboundtraitor ;)07:54
Angel_Dexdigit Thats not the only problem tho See im gonna be switching alot! so how do i keep it from cahning07:54
wd3dtothp have u used wine i kinda miss trillian07:54
intelikeycmug kde has an app fro setting that.07:54
frank23michael  I just use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension instead of dealing with those media plugins07:54
dtothephey, im not proud of it07:54
cmugintelikey, called?07:54
dtothep:] 07:54
dtothepwd3, ive tried it, but i prefer gaim07:55
intelikeycmug  idk.  it should be in the menu tho07:55
frank23wd3: gaim connects to a bunch of networks. It should do the job07:55
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wd3dtothep yeah but .......where's the eye candy?07:55
michaelhow do i install/use that07:55
cmugintelikey, :/07:55
TriGzI have a pixelated screen when i boot up, how do i get it to work? :P07:55
digitWell, if you can get it to mount manually, you can probably make it so automounter mounts it correctly.07:55
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Franciscohow can I do that my eth1 turn the radio on??07:55
Angel_Dexdigit Hum ok07:56
nboundwd3, u dont need it, zomg my friend is listenin to a crap song... who cares :)07:56
digitsorry07:56
dtothepwhats the command to reconfigure xserver?07:56
frank23michael its a firefox extension. search for it in the extensions site07:56
wd3nbound i dont need what? trillian?07:56
dtothepdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?07:56
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nbound!xorg07:56
ubotuwell, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html07:56
nboundwd3, the eye candy07:56
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wd3nbound  :o)07:56
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digitmaybe someone knows more about automounter.  I'm just trying out ubuntu for the first time today.  I use netbsd day to day.07:57
Angel_Dexcool07:57
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dtothepTriGz, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose vesa as your vid driver and see if that works, it wont have 3d acceleration, but at least u might have a gui for now07:57
ITSa341IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  TY All for the help!!!07:57
intelikeycmug kconfig or something  but it's part of the  kdebase   iirc07:57
dansanthanks for the tip on mediaplayerconnectivity!07:57
dansanthat's cool07:57
Psykushaving a really horrible problem with gnome freezing up, and then not being able to do anything else..i kept having this problem before, and managed to fix it somehow with help from this channel, but I reinstalled ubuntu and its coming back. it had something to do with RAM if I remember right, maybe running out, but I do have 1 GB of memory, so it must be something in linux07:57
wd3nbound, frank, dtothep, i need to upgrade my firefox  what do i do?07:57
Psykusonce it freezes up I mean, I have to restart my computer07:57
frank23!tell wd3 about ff1.507:58
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kanidthe thread for my usb troubles, if anyone's interested: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14581307:58
Psykusi'm in irssi right now, on the console, so it won't freakout and make me reboot07:58
intelikeycmug look for "configure kde" in the menu07:58
frank23wd3: the instructions are a bit involved though07:58
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wd3frank thanks for the bot07:58
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cmugintelikey, got it now07:58
FlannelKingPsykus: you sure your ram is good?  if it's random freezes, it sounds like hardware07:58
intelikeyk07:58
FrogzooPsykus: swapon -s   ?07:58
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dansandarn, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -- 408 new packages!07:59
PsykusFrogzoo: what does that do?07:59
michaelstill freezing07:59
ITSa341wastrel   thx again07:59
dansanPsykus, processor overheating can also cause that07:59
FrogzooPsykus: just post the answer here, or read the man page - man swapon07:59
frank23michael did you install that extension?08:00
michaelyea, and configured it08:00
Psykusyeah, it just brought me back to a prompt08:00
frank23michael you have to uninstall/delete the media player plugin to stop the freezing maybe08:00
FrogzooPsykus: there's your problem - please pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'08:01
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michaelmplayer or mediaplayerconnectivity?08:01
frank23michael: mplayer08:01
digit On slow ripping speeds: does anyone have suggestions on why my cd ripping speeds are so slow?  ~1.8x in SoundJuicer, Grip, cdparanoia and cdda2wav. usb 2.0 drive (lite-on) on /dev/scd0.  No DMA issues (scsi device), not gnome-polling-all-the-time issues (tried cdparanoia in failsafe terminal). I get 17-20x under netbsd.08:01
Psykusi have a swap partition, but I guess it's not being utilized by ubuntu08:01
Frogzoodigit: no DMA ?08:02
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frank23michael: mediaplayerconnectivity is an extension, not the same thing as a plugin08:02
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digitAs I understand, DMA can only be set for ide devices.  From hdparm manpage.08:02
digitMine is seen a scsi device.08:02
PsykusFrogzoo: the /dev/hda5 is labeled as "Linux Swap / Solaris"08:02
michaeli'm uninstalling it08:02
Psykusi can't paste, since i'm on a virtual terminal for irssi, and running commands in another one08:03
FrogzooPsykus: so add the following line to /etc/fstab08:03
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Frogzoo/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       008:03
Psykusah, didn't know it had to be mounted08:03
dansanwould be cool to be able to redirect something to pastebin08:04
FrogzooPsykus: yes indeedy08:04
frank23michael what the extension will do is let you open videos in an external media player08:04
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digitFrogzoo: infact, hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 gets an error.08:04
TriGzAnyone know how to fix my screen?  cant see nothing.. Just pixilation :(08:04
PsykusFrogzoo: actually, that's already in fstab08:04
dansanwhy the heck is this thing installing malasian fonts...08:04
Psykusdoing a mount -a, and then going back and doing the swapon command that you told me did nothing08:05
michaelk, it's opening in firefox, but only showing a small icon in the middle now08:05
FrogzooPsykus: 'sudo swapon -a ; swapon -s'08:05
digitFrogzoo: the real kicker is that when I was playing around with grip, suddenly it finished a cd at normal speed. ~17x.08:05
frank23michael: yeah click that icon. you may need to configure the extension08:05
michaelwhat should i use to open it?08:05
frank23michael what do you normaly use for wmv?08:06
Psykussays: "swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument"08:06
michaelwindows media player, never used linux to play wmv b408:06
FrogzooPsykus: grep swap /etc/fstab08:06
digitFrogzoo: thanks for the suggestion, I think I'm going to go back into failsafe to play around again.  I really want to make sure it's not a polling issue.08:06
digitFrogzoo: cheers.08:06
Frogzoodigit: cheers, gl08:06
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PsykusFrogzoo: "/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0"08:07
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frank23michael oh. you will have to get a normal player playing wmv. totem-xine + w32codecs should work I think08:07
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frank23I use kde I don't know what most people use in gnome08:08
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PsykusFrogzoo: should it matter if it's a primary or logical partition?08:08
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FrogzooPsykus: no difference08:09
Psykushm08:09
pinpointwhats the path to firefox in ubuntu?08:10
MistaEDi haven't touched my ubuntu dapper partition since Xgl/compiz came around, is the gnome 2.14 release in yet?08:10
frank23pinpoint: /usr/bin/firefox08:10
Psykusso I have a swap partition thats not being utilized by ubuntu08:10
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MistaEDi think it came out today?08:10
painkilerhey guys08:10
frank23pinpoint: what are you looking for exactly?08:10
pinpointpath to put into a client08:10
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pinpointso it knows to open browser08:10
painkilerhaving a little trouble with x after installing dapper drake..... Don't send me to the other channel08:10
pinpointwhen i click on urls08:10
painkilerx freezes08:10
painkilerand gives me an error message08:11
frank23pinpoint: that should work I think08:11
FrogzooPsykus: mebbe try 'sudo mkswap /dev/hda5'      MAKE SURE YOU GET THE DEVICE NAME RIGHT - then try swapon -a again08:11
pinpointnope08:11
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painkilersomething like "x is screwing up, click ok for diagnosics"08:11
painkilerbut its frozen08:11
FrogzooPsykus: sudo fstab -l |grep -i swap                    before you run mkswap, just to check08:11
painkilerhow do i stop x from booting at bootup?08:11
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painkilerthen "reinstalling08:12
painkilerit08:12
Psykusbrb, need to reboot, made a new partition, and it needs to reboot to read the partition table08:12
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dtotheppainkiler do a ctrl+alt+f1 and log in as root08:12
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dtothepthen do a killall gdm08:12
FrogzooPsykus: *sudo fdisk -l |grep -i swap*                    before you run mkswap, just to check08:13
painkilerkillall gdm?08:13
dtothepi believe so08:13
painkilerwhat does that do?08:13
frank23dtothep: most people can't log in as root.   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart restarts X08:13
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Dr|Jhow do  view diskspace of the harddisk?08:14
Frogzoodf08:14
Dr|J?08:14
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FrogzooDr|J: it's a shell command08:14
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jonas3df -h08:14
painkilercan i boot a second hdd in vmware?08:14
painkileri dont want to reboot and lose you guys08:15
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christmashy all08:15
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frank23painkiler: you can give vmware access to a physical partition but I don't know if it will boot08:15
Frogzoois it Christmas already?08:15
dtothepholy Christmas!08:15
Christmas:)08:15
frank23painkiler: you should'nt do that though08:16
painkilerok then08:16
painkileri guess i will have to reboot08:16
painkilercya guys08:16
painkilerbrb08:16
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Dr|Ji know just about nothing about linux :(08:17
dtothepwaht do u want to know Dr|J? im no guru, but i know the basics08:17
painkilerwell you know its an operating system08:17
painkilerthats a good thing08:17
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Dr|Jthat's about it :p08:17
Dr|Ji don't know where to start08:18
frank23Dr|J: everybody starts with nothing ;)08:18
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Dr|Jtis true08:18
nexyhow do i emulate a right click button on my powerbook. right now i cant right click anything :(08:18
FrogzooDr|J: click on 'Get Help with Gnome' (looks like lifesaver) - that should help with the basics08:18
Dr|Jmk08:18
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frank23Dr|J: the wiki and forums have a lot of info too08:18
suryamhow do i set the default input method in Gnome?08:18
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Dr|Jim just playin in terminal right now08:18
Frogzoosuryam: default input for which device?08:19
frank23Dr|J: some here might disagree but I think the windows->KDE transition is easier than gnome08:19
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suryamFrogzoo: when i right-click in any text-entry field of any GTK program, an "input methods" menu appears..  i want to set SCIM as the default08:19
PsykusFrogzoo: still happening :O, swapon -s lists /dev/hda2 (since I remade the partition) as a swap, but gnome freezes up pretty much as soon as I start it up. I can ctrl alt backspace to kill it so I don't have to reboot08:19
Christmasd08:20
frank23Psykus: why do you think that a gnome freeze is related to swap?08:20
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FrogzooPsykus: ok, so it's not a memory issue then08:20
rofl-waffleI just installed the server package, how do I login as root? I don't remember setting a root pw during install...08:20
frank23!tell rofl-waffle about sudo08:21
FrogzooPsykus: do you have x properly configured?08:21
Christmasrofl-waffle you have to use the "sudo" command in front of the other commands08:21
suryamSCIM as default input method for GTK, anyone?08:21
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Christmasin ubuntu the root account is disabled by default08:21
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suryam!scim08:21
ubotuscim is, like, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/08:21
Dr|Jis the newest version of firefox avaliable to linux?08:21
G0SUBFrogzoo: hehe08:21
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dtothepyes Dr|J08:22
dtothepim not exactly sure how to install it tho08:22
Dr|Jhm08:22
dtothepthy the forums08:22
dtothepi think i saw a thread about it08:22
Dr|Jk08:23
Dr|JI just need to practice or learn first how to install stuff08:23
dtothephave you used apt-get?08:23
FrogzooPsykus: are you sure it's a gnome problem? it maybe x instead - has this always been broken?08:23
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Dr|Jno08:23
cuencan anyone quickly help me with the GCONF-EDITOR APPS/COMPIZ part of the Xgl tutorial pls? i don't get any responses in the ubuntu-xgl and ubuntu+1 rooms08:23
Dr|Ji'v instaled one thing before and that was Folding@Home and it was awhile ago08:23
frank23Dr|J: the new firefox is not an easy program to install.  the basic way to install programs is by using synaptic08:24
PsykusFrogzoo: cups kept giving me problems before, on my other gnome install, I just killed it now, and it doesn't seem to be locking up..apparently it would freak out or something over a network printer that was on my LAN, and then freeze gnome in the same way08:24
dtothepyes, synaptic works well too, its graphical08:24
Dr|Jok08:24
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Dr|Jtime to take notes08:24
dtothepwould synaptic be considered a frontend to apt-get? ive never understood what a "frontend" is08:25
FrogzooPsykus: not sure what's going on there08:25
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Whatsisnamedtothep you would be correct08:25
dtothepDr|J on your menu bar go System>Administraion>Synaptic Package Manager08:26
frank23dtothep: yes it is.  a frontend is an user interface to another program (usually console based)08:26
dtotheptype in your sudo password08:26
dtothepthats kinda what i thought08:26
Dr|Jah ha!08:26
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dtothepthis lists all the programs you can currently install using synaptic08:26
dtothepif you click update, it will update the package lists from the internet08:26
Dr|Jcool08:27
Dr|Jlet me try08:27
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frank23Dr|J: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation?action=show&redirect=NewUbuntuUsers is a good place for a new user08:27
dtothepupgrade will upgrade any program with updates08:27
Dr|Jok, going to that website now08:27
Dr|Jso much to learn! :P08:27
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Dr|Jmy res seems big, but i can't go any smaller :(08:29
dtothepyou may need an updated video card driver08:29
frank23!fixres08:30
dtothepbut i wouldnt know where to begin08:30
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:30
dtothepfrank's on it08:30
frank23or ubotu is :)08:30
dtothepoh yea, my bad08:30
Dr|Joomg08:30
Dr|Ji hit ctrl alt - and now everything is huge08:30
Dr|Jhelp!08:30
Dr|Jlol08:30
Dr|Jok there we go08:31
dtothepctrl alt +?08:31
Dr|Jyea08:31
dtothep:] 08:31
ChrisBradleyhow do the live cd's work as far as writing anything to the disc?08:31
frank23try ctrl-alt -08:31
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ChrisBradleyDo they write to fat32?08:31
Dr|Jya ctrl alt + & - change it08:31
ChrisBradleyor NTFS?08:31
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frank23ChrisBradley: if you mount it, sure it can write to fat3208:31
dtothepand ext08:32
ChrisBradleyAnd it won't corrupt the disc?08:32
frank23ChrisBradley: no, linux can't write to ntfs. It's read only08:32
dtothepnope08:32
ChrisBradleySo basically the live CD is only for running a demo?08:33
frank23ChrisBradley: It won't damage it.08:33
FrogzooChrisBradley: you're much better off with a full install08:33
dtothepsay your hard drive fails, your computer is not worthless, with a livecd, you can boot into an os and go online, whatever you need to do08:33
frank23ChrisBradley: kind of yeah. you can test if your hardware will run well before installing ubuntu08:33
ChrisBradleyTrying to show my parents the power of linux08:33
dtothepgood luck with that, it never worked for me!08:34
ChrisBradleyI've already got ubuntu and vector on 2 respective boxes08:34
dtothepi had to buy my own box08:34
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FrogzooChrisBradley: most people only see how slow the live cd is to boot & little else08:34
Elektrochelovekhow to dist-upgrade from breezy to badger?08:34
jb1ChrisBradley: Yank the cable off your hard drive and then load the Live CD. Still works.08:34
dtothepbreezy is badger08:34
dtothepu meen dapper?08:34
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ChrisBradleybreezy is what I'm going to test first08:35
FrogzooElektrochelovek: hoary hedghehog < breezy badger < dapper drake08:35
frank23Elektrochelovek: you can upgrade to dapper but it's still in development. If it doesn't work, you're on your own. (or you can try #ubuntu+1)08:35
digitA quick question for anyone: under breezy, how can I get a kernel tree and .config exactly like the one used to build the generic breezy kernel/modules? I just want to make one very small change to a module.08:35
Frogzooexcept dapper is beta08:35
z33I downloaded a single .c file and I want to run it, what commands do I use to do that?08:35
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FrogzooChrisBradley: breezy is the best bet as it's stable08:36
ChrisBradleyjb1 - yes - but where does it store any output - for example - if you write a file in Open Office - where do you store it? Can you save it as .doc and it won't eat the drive?08:36
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jb1ChrisBradley: You still need some type of storage device for writing files. USB sticks are a good idea.08:37
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frank23ChrisBradley: well the only way to save something permanently is to save it on a disk. by default, I'm not sure if the live CD actually mounts anything08:37
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dtothepu can manually mount drives, but no it doesnt on initial bootup08:37
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g00r00automatix pwns!! it lets you leech dope pr0n and warez08:38
g00r00fyi08:38
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tritiumg00r00: please stop08:39
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painkilerhey guys08:39
painkilerok08:39
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dtothepwelcome back painkiler08:39
painkileri have a photo of the problem08:39
painkilerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmac/113630855/08:39
dtothepive had the same problem before08:40
painkilerwhat is it?08:40
g00r00you need the right driver for X?08:40
tritiumpainkiler: have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?  What were you trying to do/change?08:40
dtothepyea08:40
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjis it normal to use 980 megs of memory running kde with one konqueror open (with only one tab), one terminal (konsole), and xchat08:40
dtothepif u use the vesa driver, it should give u a gui08:40
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjno swap08:40
painkileroh, i upgraded to dapper08:40
dtothepthat could be a problem too08:41
painkilernow there are some problem08:41
Frogzoojjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: well not having swap is just silly08:41
painkiler*problems08:41
dtothepbut it worked before?08:41
painkileryeah08:41
painkilertotally08:41
dtothepweird08:41
DBOI am having trouple getting lircd to stay running, anyone have experience with lircd?08:41
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjsry, meant, no swap space being used08:41
painkilermy other keranl install works to08:41
g00r00not having a swap can increase performance i thought08:41
painkilerbut thats breasy08:41
frank23jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: where is the memory being used?08:41
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Frogzoojjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: the reason you see all memory 'used' is linux kernel borrows unused memory for buffer space - this is normal08:42
dtothepnot having a swap would decrease performance, i beleive08:42
tritiumwhat kind of nick...08:42
frank23jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: and cache memory is used but it's still available08:42
painkilerill just download the dapper iso08:42
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyes08:42
dtothepim not really sure there painkiler, try searching for your vid card and dapper08:42
painkileroh, ill just do a clean install08:42
dtothepthat might work too08:42
painkilerway easyer than finding the problem08:42
dtotheplol08:43
painkilerthanx guys08:43
painkilercya latter08:43
jb1painkiller: some hints can likely be found by doing "tail -n40 /var/log/Xorg.0.log > Xlog.txt08:43
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjeverything's still running smoothly...i was just kind of surprised that it was using so much memory08:44
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frank23jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: if you include cache, the memory is usually always completly used08:44
Frogzoojjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: that's just it - it's not08:44
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tritiumjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj: how about a nick change?08:46
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DBOFrogzoo: thanks for helping me the other day, you think you might be able to help me with lirc?08:47
DBOI got the whole thing installed08:47
DBOeven had it working till I rebooted...08:47
tritiumthanks, jjj__ :)08:49
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OBewhere is beginners channel ?08:50
highvoltageOBe: depends, beginners what?08:50
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OBeubuntu08:50
highvoltageOBe: my guess would be #ubuntu08:51
OBehighvoltage r u from germany?08:51
highvoltageOBe: same time zone, other side of the world - South Africa08:51
OBeoh ok thanks08:51
OBewhat do i type /join #ubuntu08:53
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dtothepim goint to take off08:53
dtotheplater everyone08:53
MadpilotOBe, this is #ubuntu08:53
DBOOBe... you are in #ubuntu08:53
OBewait this is #ubuntu08:53
OBelol08:53
rixthI just want to read an effin .chm file, can I do it?08:54
Dr|Jwhen i type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom" it says "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom"08:54
rixthOr course not.08:54
Dr|Jwhat am i doin wrong08:54
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z33When I try to compile a .c file I am getting an error that says stdio.h: No such file or directory, how do I fix this?08:56
dansanany one using a cli app for irc?08:56
tritiumdansan: yep08:56
Dr|Jwhen i type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom" it says "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom"08:56
Dr|Jwhat am i doin wrong08:56
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dansantritium, which one?08:56
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DBODr|J, call me silly... but it looks right to me...08:57
tritiumdansan: irssi08:57
dansantritium, have you tried bitchx? and if you have, what made you decide to go with irssi?08:57
Dr|J:( idk why it no work08:57
tritiumdansan: no, I haven't.  I've got some handy scripts for irssi that I use.08:58
dansanic08:58
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MadpilotDr|J, that should have worked - do you have a xorg.conf.custom now?08:58
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DBODr|J,  enter "ls -l /etc/X11"08:58
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DBOdo you see the .backup one?08:59
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Dr|Jidk08:59
Dr|Jk08:59
Dr|Jhol don08:59
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Dr|Jyes i have xorg.conf but not xorg.conf.custom09:00
jjj__looking over cached memory a little, would the amount of memory returned by 'free -m' under -/+ buffers/cache be representative of how much memory is used under linux?09:00
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DBODr|J, is it giving any error messages?09:01
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DBOhmmm, I said .backup when I should have said .custom... you got the idea09:02
Dr|Jwhen i type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom it is09:02
Moodles`im using 5.10 breezy badger, and I have a problem with the archive manager, my .rar contains 2 files, but the archive manager only sees 1, but when I extract, I get 2 files09:02
DBODr|J, what does the error message say?09:02
Dr|Jhold09:02
Dr|Jcp: cannot create regular file `/ect/X11/xorg.conf.custom': No such file or directory09:03
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fluxtMoodles`: rar isn't exactly a supported format09:03
munti78Anyone here that can help me install java so that I can run applets in my browser?09:03
Madpilot!java09:04
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:04
gurdderHello, if I have a problem, how do I go about asking? Do I just blurt it out or is there some sort of queue? Thanks09:04
Madpilotmunti78, ^^^09:04
tritiumDr|J: s/ect/etc09:04
Moodles`can the archive manager be updated?09:04
fluxtgurdder: just ask09:04
gurdderok thanks09:04
Dr|Jmoodles u talkin to me?09:04
MadpilotMoodles`, you could use the non-free rar09:04
munti78anyone?09:05
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fluxtmunti78: ubotu told you about java09:06
Madpilotmunti78, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- look for the Java section09:06
munti78ok09:06
tritiumMadpilot: there was a MadPassenger in here looking for you earlier ;)09:06
Madpilottritium, I'll keep an eye out :P09:06
gurdderim trying to get my 3D drivers working, and everytime I try to do basically anything I get this "Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)..." then the directory. any ideas how to get that fixed?  5.10 btw09:06
tritium:)09:06
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fluxtgurdder: do you have the ubuntu cd in the drive?09:07
_ryanany1 know what files i need for Kaffeine to play mkv files?09:08
gurdderyes i have the DVD actually09:08
fluxthmm :/ i have nfi09:08
munti78Madpilot; Will that also work on Hoary Hedgehog?09:08
Dr|Jtritium09:09
Dr|Jdo i just type that in terminal or what :(09:09
_ryanany1? =/09:09
Dr|Jand how do you make it so it sayd DR|J and it's in red for me... :(09:09
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Madpilotmunti78, yes - but you should update to Breezy09:10
Madpilot!tell munti78 about upgrade09:10
DBOwhat chat client are you using Dr|J09:10
kingspawngurder: tried apt-get update first?09:10
Madpilotanyway, need sleep - later all...09:10
Dr|JXcHAT09:10
DBOxchat automatically turns your name red whenever anyone says it09:10
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Dr|Jnormally i use mIRC but im actually on my linux machine09:10
Dr|Jah09:10
pvd2006My friend and I both have the same exact version of Ubuntu and have all updates and both have gcc installed, but for some reason when he tries to compile a .c file into an executable it is not finding the library files and giving him errors even though when I do it, its a perfect compile that works.09:10
Dr|Jkool09:10
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DBOthat way you know when people are talking to you... or about you09:11
pvd2006its not finding like stdio.h09:11
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mrkojeihola!09:11
pvd2006its not linking the libraries or something09:11
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munti78Madpilot; sadly that is not an option right now :(09:11
fluxtpvd2006: what library files?09:11
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gurdderoh yes  I've updated a lot09:11
tritiumDr|J: sorry, was away.  What?09:11
mrkojewhats going on my fellow Linux users.09:11
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revolutionarydocumenting bush's crimes09:12
fluxtpvd2006: like whats the error..09:12
pvd2006fluxt, it says stdio.h: No such file or directory to him09:12
pvd2006and it says everything is undeclared09:12
fluxtpvd2006: has he install build-essential ?09:12
tritiumpvd2006: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:12
Dr|Jwhere do i type what you told me to09:12
pvd2006let me see09:12
tritiumDr|J: what did I tell you?09:12
kingspawnpvd2006, has he got //usr/include/stdio.h?09:13
gurdderhave to restart ill let you know if what I just did works09:13
kingspawnah, yes, people are on it.09:13
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_ryanany1 know what files i need for Kaffeine to play mkv files?09:13
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mrkojeAnyone might have a clue on how I could put Ubuntu Live on a USB thumbdrive and boot from there?09:14
mrkojeInstead of a CD?09:14
kingspawnand i didn't mean to throw in an extra /09:14
jimcooncatlooking for an online command builder, like help with picking options for "tar"09:14
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villerhi09:14
pvd2006hes doing it right now09:14
pvd2006hopefully, this will work,09:14
kingspawnjimcooncat, huh?09:14
villeri want to install compiz, but there is no package of it in the repositories?09:14
fluxtjimcooncat: man tar09:14
kingspawnpvd2006, if he didnt have build-essential, it will.,09:14
fluxti'm feeling confident kingspawn09:15
Dr|Jtritium hold on09:15
jimcooncatyes fluxt, a front-end to man that will help me with the choices09:15
kingspawnfluxt, me too :)09:15
pvd2006ok I Am doing a pastebin09:15
fluxtjimcooncat: front end to man is konqueror man:tar09:15
pvd2006he got an error09:15
pvd2006for that09:16
fluxt!konqueror09:16
ubotu[konqueror]  the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org09:16
jimcooncat:-) guess I don't know how to phrase my question09:16
villeri want to install compiz, but there is no package of it in the repositories?09:16
mrkojeHello?09:16
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fluxtriddle me this.. what error, pvd2006?09:17
Kamping_Kaiserviller: then you will have to wait untill dapper09:17
Dr|Jtritium u said s/ect/etc09:17
pvd2006fluxt, http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/4601009:17
jimcooncatfluxt, that is a nicer view than man on the command line, thanks09:17
pvd2006it has the error09:17
pvd2006its pretty big for an error to paste onto here09:17
villerkamping_kaiser: but there's a tutorial on ubuntuforums!? why is it there?09:17
fluxtjimcooncat: npz09:18
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tritiumDr|J: oh, your command failed because you didn't type the directory name correctly.  You need to substitute "etc" where you had "ect"09:18
Kamping_Kaiserviller: xgl only works on dapper09:18
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villerkamping_kaiser: I hear this for the first time, why haven't anyone said this before!?09:18
Kamping_Kaiserviller: you havent asked? :)09:19
villerwhy do they make thos stupid fckng tutorials if you can't even use them?09:19
Dr|Jahh09:19
tritiumviller: language!09:19
fluxtpvd2006: are you sure he did sudo apt-get install build-essential && #including the sudo bit?09:19
tritiumviller: that was in the mailing lists09:19
Dr|Jlol i always do that tritium09:19
tritiumDr|J: tab-completion is your friend.09:20
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pvd2006fluxt, so he needs to type in exactly sudo apt-get install build-essential09:20
villercan't I add dapper repositories or something? There's no way to install compiz?09:20
pvd2006right?09:20
myloanybody ever tried network backup with mondo ?09:20
tritiumviller: if you upgrade to dapper, you can09:20
fluxtpvd2006: yeah09:20
Dr|Jcool thanx tritium09:20
villerbut i don't want dapper09:20
tritiumthen you'll have to wait for Xgl09:21
pvd2006fluxt, that is what he used as a command  sudo apt-get install build-essential09:21
pvd2006fluxt, its giving him the same error09:21
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tritiumsure, Dr|J :)09:22
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fluxtpvd2006: that is so strange.. how about sudo apt-get install libc-dev09:22
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kingspawnpvd2006, try via synaptic. sometimes apt-get gets all up in your face.09:22
pvd2006ok so just search for, build-essential in synaptic09:23
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kingspawnits in development, or just search09:23
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ManticeHey guys09:23
kingspawnregrettably im in windows right now, since Im at work09:23
kingspawn'ello Mantice09:24
ManticeIm having a massive problem with ubuntu :)09:24
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ManticeMy computer dont over heat in ubuntu :)09:24
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fluxtMantice: i can fix that09:24
jimcooncatMantice, keeps you warm09:24
ManticeYeah09:24
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ngoatosHi, could anybody help me in setting up an external hardware modem. When dialling out I first have to dial the ISP number and then after about 7 seconds of voice I have to enter a password before the phone connects. I have not yet found out how to set up this sequence and I dont see any references to the problem in the wiki.09:25
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ManticeMy computer CPU went to 100 degress in windows man09:25
Manticeand Ive only been in windows for 10 days max09:25
Manticelucky it dident burn the mighty amd 64 out :)09:25
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jimcooncatngoatos, there's a pause command in the at command set, don't recall what it is09:25
fluxtngoatos: is it a dial pin?09:25
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DBO100 F wont burn out the CPU09:25
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Mantice100 c09:25
DBOthe sensor must have been reading wrong09:26
Dr|Jdamnit09:26
pvd2006KingSpawn, Fluxt, he tried it in synaptic and got the same error just like he did with apt get for essential-build09:26
jimcooncatngoatos, oh yes, I think a comma for every two seconds09:26
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gurdderwell, it seems that when i pull up my ATI control panel at least it's giving me all the info and it seems that the drivers are installed. How do I test it?  The 3D screensavers are still ultra-slow09:26
fluxtpvd2006: try libc-dev09:26
jimcooncatngoatos, you might be able to specify it right in the phone number09:26
ManticeWell I could smell it burning and the heat sink was so hot I burnt my self on it09:26
kingspawnpvd2006, have him try some different combinations of the development tools then. like fluxt is saying, try libc-dev09:26
Manticeand the computer turned off :(09:26
kingspawnMantice, then its usually time to take action09:26
jimcooncatngoatos, like 18885551212,,,,709:27
DBOMantice: The OS would not effect that...09:27
ManticeIt only happens in Windows09:27
ManticeMaybe because I had speed fan on09:27
fluxtkingspawn: i'm wondering if his apt is broken09:27
Manticeand it stoped a fan for ages09:27
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DBOMantice: turning off the CPU fan is a bad idea09:27
DBOits there for a reason09:27
ManticeI dident DBO09:27
pvd2006fluxt, kingspawn, its a list that says, dietlibc-dev, and libuclibc-dev w09:27
CarinArrheh09:27
pvd2006which one?09:27
ManticeI left all fans on 100%09:28
ManticeI think a programs doing something in the backaround09:28
CarinArris there a reason why you installed a particular program for dealing with the fans?09:28
ManticeIn about 10 min my cpu fan screems09:28
fluxtjimcooncat: you're memory of AT commands is astounding :)09:28
DBOyour computer still shouldnt be overheating at 100% load...  did you mount the heatsink yourself?09:28
jimcooncatfluxt, modem project from 12 years ago :-)09:29
ManticeDBO I meant 100% fan speed09:29
davidrlol09:29
ManticeMy computer in windows idles at 51 degrees09:29
fluxtpvd2006: sudo apt-get install libc-dev09:29
DBOMantice: I know, but nothing software can do short of turning off fans should cause your PC to overheat09:29
jimcooncatnow if I could just remember the tar arguments09:29
DBO(or overclocking)09:29
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kingspawnfluxt: yes, this seems very strange.09:30
kingspawnpvd2006, have him look at his sources.list and compare it with something from help.ubuntu.com09:30
fluxtpvd2006: better yet.. sudo apt-get install libc6-dev09:30
kingspawnor somewhere along those lines09:30
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fluxtpvd2006: also, perhaps your friend should get on xchat a talk here also09:31
ngoatosThanks Jimcooncat and Fluxt. In windows I use a comma for the pause command but Linux seems to interpret the comma differently. I am a prepaid customer and so i have to send a single digit account number and a four digit password.09:31
Manticeany thing above 51 degrees makes my cpu fan screem in about 10 min into windows the fan starts screeming the cpu temps are like 49 to 51 and the fan keeps reving up and down.... In Ubuntu I dont know what my cpu temps are but some times the fan turns OFF :) and its not geting hot what so ever.09:31
pvd2006fluxt, kingspawn, none of those are working for him:-\, errors errors, Maybe he needs to add more respositories?09:31
rofl-waffleWhere do I set up my network interfaces on a server?09:31
pvd2006ok Ill tell him09:32
DBOsounds like you had an issue in windows where your CPU was constantly under full load...09:32
fluxtMantice: my cpu temp is at 54c usually, 60c when hot09:32
jimcooncatngoatos, you'd have to use a connection script -- I don't have that knowledge how to do in linux09:32
DBOMantice, you can get lm_sensors to check your CPU tempurature in ubuntu09:32
Manticesome times 70 degrees when my computer is playing games for 2 -3 hours09:32
pvd2006maybe his kernel isnt updated?09:32
pvd2006whats the command to update kernel09:33
pvd2006or distro09:33
jimcooncatngoatos, the script would look for prompts from your server, like "user" and "pass" and enter your items accordingly09:33
DBOMantice: You have serious cooling issues, you should do something about them09:33
Manticebut I played for 5 hours with my computer idling for 15 days09:33
fluxtMantice: AMD Althlon XP ?09:33
ManticeAMD 64 3000+09:33
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pvd2006I know its ap-get distro or something09:33
pvd2006apt-get09:33
pvd2006*09:33
ManticeWhy is it fine in ubuntu though09:33
tritiumpvd2006: are you sure there's an updated kernel package to be installed?09:33
fluxtMantice: hmm, it's a little hotter than you'd like at 70 thats for sure09:33
pvd2006im not 100% sure09:34
pvd2006but it might be worth a shot09:34
tritiumpvd2006: please run "uname -r"09:34
pvd2006?09:34
Fujitsuapt-get dist-upgrade, pvd2006?09:34
tritium!tell pvd2006 about enter09:34
kingspawnpvd2006, have him have a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267209:34
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Manticehow to I install lm_sensors?09:34
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DBOapt-get install lm_sensors09:35
DBOI believe09:35
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DBOerm, "sudo apt-get install lm_sensors"09:35
pvd2006well09:35
jimcooncat/etc/chatscripts/provider might be some help09:35
pvd2006as I though, he isnt up to date09:35
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jimcooncattry man:pppconfig09:35
pvd2006hes running kernel version 2.6.12-9-38609:35
liquidindian!ntfs09:35
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:35
kingspawnDBO, the sudo drives me nuts sometimes.. :)09:35
pvd2006so I guess he needs to update his kernel09:35
fluxtpvd2006: that's not the problem09:36
DBOkingspawn, you can do a sudo -s for a single session, cut down on the sudoing09:36
kingspawnpvd2006, the update will be minimal, its not got anything to do with his current problem09:36
DBOthough, you probably knew that...09:36
Manticeapt-get install lm_sensors09:36
ManticeW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists09:36
DBOhmmm09:36
DBOwhat was it...09:36
kingspawndbo: yeah. actually, I've enabled the root account ;)09:36
fluxtpvd2006: check he has an internet connection while you're at it09:36
ManticeHold on I think im fixing09:36
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Manticeit09:36
kingspawnfluxt ;)09:36
DBOkingspawn, had to do that for my nvidia drivers09:36
pvd2006fluxt, he does09:36
pvd2006Ill tell him to come in here09:36
fluxtback in 409:37
tritiumGood night, folks09:37
kingspawnDBO: yeah, heh. i do alot of twiddling around, so I like to have the root account enabled09:37
DBOMantice,, "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"09:37
z33fluxt, im having the problem09:37
z33im with pvd09:38
DBOkingspawn, I dont twiddle enough to ever need su where sudo wont do09:38
pvd2006kingspawn, this is my friend who is having the problem09:38
DBOhope to get that good some day though09:38
ManticeYeah, I did Ubuntu is having a fight with unable to get some repositry files, Im just updating09:38
kingspawnpvd2006, i see09:38
z33sudo apt-get dist-upgrade didnt find anything to install09:38
ngoatosJimcooncat, thanks. Any idea where I start looking for information on how to write connection scripts?09:38
kingspawnz33: look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267209:39
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firepolhi there, is anybody here using Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu breezy?09:40
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jimcooncatngoatos, looks like you can do it with "sudo pppconfig"09:40
fluxtpvd2006: you might want to get him to pastebin /etc/apt/sources.lis09:40
jimcooncatngoatos, select chat when you get into it09:40
firepolmy problem is that i cant configure it so that when it's already open: if i click again the firefox icon it will load a new instance... how can i get the new links to be loaded into tabs in the same firefox instance?09:40
fluxtz33: oh see message to pvd200609:40
ManticeFirepol, I tryed but I was to much of a n00b to get it working, instead it screwed up my old ubuntu firefox :) and it took me hours to fix it :)09:40
firepoli have the same problem with bluefish editor09:40
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fluxtz33: that was meant to be  /etc/apt/sources.list09:41
DBOkingspawn, is there any way I can tell synaptics to ignore gaim (I installed 2.0 beta from CVS and its trying to downgrade me)09:41
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firepolMantice, i simply followed a huide in the ubuntu wiki and it works perfectly09:41
firepoljust this issuie09:41
ManticeCongrats :)09:41
ManticeThe gudes dont work for me :)09:42
firepolMantice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:42
ManticeYeah, Thanks Ill pass09:42
ngoatosJimcooncat, Thanks I will try and use pppconfig.09:42
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firepolMantice: i have followed that guide step by step and i use firefox 1.509:42
ManticeUbuntu will update there firefox soon enough09:42
jimcooncatngoatos, I'm a real noob and don't even know if that's the proper place09:43
firepolsoon enough isnt enough soon for me ;)09:43
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ManticeI use to be a update freek but I just stay uptodate with ubuntus updates09:43
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pvd2006fluxt, here is z33's pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1038209:43
jimcooncatngoatos, only run it once before09:43
pvd2006his etc/apt/sources.list09:43
ManticeE: Couldn't find package lm_sensors09:44
Mantice ????09:44
jimcooncatI'm looking forward to the new epiphany, anyone play with it here?09:44
fekmoin09:44
kingspawnDBO: I'm not sure, I never had the need. But if there isn't I'd be mighty surprised :)09:44
kingspawnMantice, i think he said lm-sensors09:45
DBOMantice, yeah, I was wrong the firstime, its a dash, not an underscore09:45
ManticeThanks kingspawn, n00b moment :)09:45
kingspawn:)09:45
Manticeok :)09:45
ManticeWhat do I do onces its installed ?09:45
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DBOerm... it was sensor-detect or something errather09:46
DBOlemme look09:46
fluxtwhat is the difference between hoary and breezy, hoary = prior version?09:46
kingspawnIm not a GUI kind of guy, but holy c* this compiz-stuff looks good.09:46
kingspawnfluxt, yes09:46
DBOwell, if you dont mind having it VERY poorly formatted09:47
DBOyou just type "sensor-detect" in console (might need sudo)09:47
DBOand it should configure itself09:47
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pvd2006fluxt, I think I know the problem, I think I accidently gave me the wrong source.list... and its not getting the right packages or is missing sources for certain packages.09:47
pvd2006I used the ubuntu guide, but when I did it  I used a different guide09:47
pvd2006mine works fine09:47
ManticeNah, That dident work09:47
kingspawnpvd2006, never use ubuntuguide!09:48
DBOMantice, type "sudo sensor-detect"09:48
pvd2006lol, alright kingspawn09:48
DBOthen type "sensor"09:48
Manticecommand not found09:48
DBOhmmm09:48
kingspawnpvd2006, if he's got breezy, no wonder he cant get apt-get to behave with that sources.list09:48
fluxtpvd2006: is he running hoary?09:48
pvd2006for the soruce?09:49
pvd2006source09:49
pvd2006or kernel?09:49
fluxtthe install was breezy or hoary?09:49
pvd2006confused<. the install of the operating system?09:49
pvd2006sorry09:49
jimcooncatanyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here: " tar --list hda1.boot.tgz" ?09:49
fluxtpvd2006: yep09:50
DBOMantice, my bad, its "sudo sensors-detect"09:50
DBOthere is an extra s on there09:50
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fluxtjimcooncat: the file is compressed, you need -z probably09:50
firepolso isn't there anybody here having problems to load new files into the same instance of an already openm program, e.g. bluefish editor?09:50
pvd2006fluxt, he doesnt know. Is there a command to find out?09:50
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DBOMantice, just give it a big yes for everything, it will ask you at some point ISA or or SMBus, I used ISA09:50
fluxtpvd2006: probably ;)09:51
DBOoh great... the one guy I can help left:-P09:51
pvd2006ok09:51
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pvd2006he said hes running breezy09:51
pvd2006fluxt09:51
fluxtpvd2006: then he has the wrong sources.list09:51
pvd2006oh?09:51
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fluxtpvd2006: i could pastebin mine, but it contains all addon stuff09:52
pvd2006da** you z33! lol09:52
pvd2006thats ok09:52
pvd2006itll work09:52
pvd2006lol09:52
fluxtpvd2006: you might as well give him yours09:52
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fluxtz33: are you alive?09:52
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ManticeWhat did you say I should Use for sudo sensors-detect?09:53
jimcooncatfluxt, got it " tar --list --file=hda1.boot.tgz"09:53
pvd2006im not using his version09:53
z33fluxt, ya im here, switching back and forth from 2 comps09:53
kingspawnpvd2006, i have given you a link to a nice sources.list two or three times now.09:53
fluxtjimcooncat: interesting09:53
kingspawnhe could exchange his sources.list for that one09:53
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fluxtz33: Jawohl!09:53
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pvd2006sorry kingspawn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267209:54
pvd2006?09:54
candymanexit09:54
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kingspawnpvd2006, yes09:55
pvd2006ok thanks09:55
fluxtpvd2006: does the code in those 'code' boxes on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672 show up as white to you or is it just me09:55
pvd2006its black for me09:55
fluxtpvd2006: hmm, was a font sizing issue nvm09:56
pvd2006ok so hes using a amd64 processor, that doesnt make a differene right?09:56
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pvd2006difference09:56
baubaubonjour09:56
fluxtpvd2006: i wouldn't think so09:56
pvd2006he average desktop user has no ppc or amd64. So this sources.list isn't intended for those architectures. For people who have amd64 see this post : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost...6&postcount=6509:56
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fluxtpvd2006: yeah, but still09:57
pvd2006does that matter if hes running the 32bit version09:57
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pvd2006ohok09:57
tomosakanihao09:57
ManticeIts a bit getto if you use 64 bit ubunto because like not having flash will make you kill people09:57
DBOOh yay!  I figured out the problem with lirc09:57
tomosakadajiahao09:57
tomosakaI am chinese09:57
Fujitsu!ch09:58
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ubotuFujitsu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:58
fluxtpvd2006: apparently you're better off running 32bit as most packages are buggy in 64bit, just what i hear09:58
ManticeWhats the best program to use your tv capture card ???09:58
tomosakaare you janpese09:58
pvd2006yes09:58
DBOMantice, I like MythTV09:58
Manticefluxt, I have not come across that09:58
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ManticeMyth TV ,eh I herd of that09:59
fluxtMantice: some people have, not with the kernel, X, or gnome but other apps/packages09:59
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ManticeI had the screen saver box where you pick your screen saver crash :)09:59
tomosakaajsdklfjasdklfjkasldjflasdkjfklasd09:59
tomosakakjdflkjalskdfjlasdkfjlaskdjf09:59
tomosakakljasdlkfjaslkjdfklasdjflkasjdlfkjasdlkfj09:59
fluxti agree tomosaka09:59
tomosakafuck09:59
ManticeAnd I get this really cool error message called kernal panic :) when playing games some times10:00
tomosakawhy?10:00
fluxtubotu: tell tomosaka bout #jibberish10:00
tomosakashit10:00
tomosakafuck10:00
fluxt!ops10:00
ubotuHelp! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee10:00
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FeestBijtjeany one knows an good ubuntu faq with faq's to configure my machine?10:01
robtoo quick for me!10:01
pvd2006I think I am going to use this source list too!10:01
rob!faqguide10:01
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob10:01
pvd2006I dont have the plf and such in mine10:01
robbah10:01
rob!desktopguide10:01
uboturob: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:01
fluxtty Seveas, Hobbsee10:01
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aquariusCan I, on an ATI laptop, use both the laptop screen and an external monitor at different resolutions without using the fglrx driver?10:01
FeestBijtje!Ubnutu faq10:01
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ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FeestBijtje10:01
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Seveas!faq10:01
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look10:01
DBOaquarius, that will depend on your video card10:02
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robFeestBijtje, see http://help.ubuntu.com10:02
FeestBijtjethnx rob that was the one i was looking for *hugs)10:02
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robnp10:02
aquariusDBO: how can I find out whether my card will support it? (It's a Radeon Xpress 200M)10:02
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ChrisBradley++++++ :) Kubuntu Live CD.10:03
Greg|do you know the list of colors for /lib/lsb/init-functions10:03
Greg|?10:03
fluxtaquarius: if you drop it in a bucket and it sinks, the card should be supported10:03
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tomosakahi10:03
aquariusfluxt: let's assume that I've done that and it sunk, then. :)10:03
tomosakahello10:03
Seveastomosaka, please behave this time10:03
ChrisBradleyThank you for saving my beat up old box...!10:04
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fluxtaquarius: good, now all you have to do is reinstall the card underwater10:04
feestbijtje!faq10:04
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look10:04
Greg|mhm10:04
rob!desktopguide10:04
ubotuI heard desktopguide is found on http://help.ubuntu.com and is the definitive guide to configuring your Ubuntu PC!10:04
tomosakaI am chinese10:04
ChrisBradleyAdept rox!10:04
fluxt!ch10:05
ubotufluxt: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:05
tomosakaso I don't speak english10:05
Seveas!faq =~ s/look/look - see also !desktopguide/10:05
ubotuOK, Seveas10:05
fluxt!teall tomosaka about ch10:05
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fluxt10:05
fluxttomosaka: neither do i10:05
Seveastomosaka, try #ubuntu-zh or #ubuntu-cn10:05
robcheers Seveas10:05
aquariusfluxt: well, cheers for the help.10:05
Seveasfluxt, ch == switzerland ;)10:05
tomosakano china10:06
fluxtaquarius: sorry i missed the original question ;)10:06
Greg|[;10:06
fluxtSeveas: it's all greek to me :)10:06
Seveasfluxt, 10:06
aquariusfluxt: I'm trying to work out whether I can run my laptop screen and my external monitor as two parts of the same screen but at different resolutions without using fglrx10:06
tomosakada jia hao10:06
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tomosakawo shi zhongguo  ren10:07
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fluxtaquarius: i suggest you tap that question into google along with the driver xorg is using and see what you come up with10:07
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ManticeHow do I fix Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable ???10:08
pvd2006that win32codec10:08
pvd2006sudo apt-get install win32codecs10:08
pvd2006?10:08
SeveasMantice, not. What are you installing?10:09
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fluxtpvd2006: did you get his apt working?10:09
pvd2006yep10:09
ManticeMyth T.V10:09
pvd2006thanks a lot!10:09
aquariusfluxt: have done that already, and not got very far, which is why I thought to ask here10:09
fluxtthats ok10:09
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ManticeMyth T.V depends on that then this ><10:09
SeveasMantice, grab an ubuntu package instead of a debian package - deb.thehunter.ws is a good source10:09
pvd2006Thanks flux and kingspawn10:09
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ManticeWhat do you want me to do ?10:10
pvd2006fluxt, just one more question10:10
pvd2006to install win32codecs10:10
pvd2006its just sudo apt-get install win32codecs10:10
pvd2006right?10:10
Seveasw32codecs10:10
fluxtaquarius: i hear multi-monitor support is pretty rare, google has the best resource on compatibility that way but you can keep prodding every now and again to see if anyone knows10:10
Seveasand you need a repo with those10:10
rofl-waffleIs there a console tool for browsing available packages?10:11
fluxta repo?10:11
aquariusfluxt: ah, OK. I've found a few hints, but I'm pretty confused at this point. :)10:11
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Seveasrofl-waffle, aptitude10:11
rofl-wafflethanks10:11
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ManticeSeveas how to I change to a ubuntu packages10:12
fluxtaquarius: have you got multi-monitor working on another OS before?10:12
aquariusfluxt: nope. not run another OS before.10:13
fluxtaquarius: ok, so what's the model of the laptop and the video card?10:13
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aquariusfluxt: laptop is an HP Pavilion dv5052ea. Card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M (RS480).10:14
fluxtaquarius: i'll have a look see...10:14
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thomas_hi folks, is is somehow possible to search for files (e.g. in the shell) which have an invalid utf-8 encoding?10:15
Yuki|away!zh10:15
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Yuki|away10:15
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fluxtaquarius: i don't see any mention at all for dual monitor support for that laptop under any OS10:16
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ManticeAny one here do this thing where you can use a another screen with a usb keyboard and a mouse and its like having another computer10:16
aquariusfluxt: not much mention for that laptop on google full stop, which is why I'm asking questions ;)10:17
feestbijtjeaight i am on a quest to install java but there is 1 slight problem10:17
aquariusfluxt: and there are about four million different types of 200M Radeons, afaict, and everyone says "just use fglrx" :)10:17
fluxtaquarius: just becauase you have a vga out and a laptop screen rarely means you can use dual monitors, actually i matched the 10+ pages on google10:17
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feestbijtjeroot@darkritual:~/Desktop# fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:17
feestbijtje/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found10:17
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gnomefreakfeestbijtje: use the java .debs its easier10:18
gnomefreak!javadebs10:18
feestbijtjegnomefreak, where to get it10:18
feestbijtje!javadebs10:18
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gnomefreakubotu tell feestbijtje about javadebs10:18
aquariusfeestbijtje: make-jpkg is in the java-package package, which you'll need to install, unless you use the java .debs directly.10:18
gnomefreakfeestbijtje: your pm10:18
ManticeIs writing to NTFS Drive supported yet ?10:19
feestbijtjelol10:19
kingspawnMantice, i'd stay off it10:19
feestbijtjeaight thank you people ^^10:19
gnomefreakMantice: not in breezy10:19
fluxtMantice: not properly and kinda scarily10:19
Tempest2kanybody got xgl working on flight 510:19
ManticeDoes this mean its possable ^_^ :)10:19
gnomefreakTempest2k: alot of people they can help you in #xgl-ubuntu10:19
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kingspawnMantice, anything is possible.10:20
gnomefreakMantice: its possible but not recommended at all10:20
fluxtMantice: you can write files but not change the size, create or delete files10:20
Tempest2kthanks friend10:20
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fluxtMantice: and then it still comes with a warning10:20
jimcooncatMantice, can you write to fat32 and pick your files up from there when you're in windows?10:20
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fluxtMantice: your best bet is fat32 for shared drive access10:20
ManticeI can read ntfs10:21
fluxtyep10:21
ManticeId10:21
ManticeBut If I did that windows would go crazy?10:21
gnomefreak!ntfs10:21
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:21
ManticeI allready mounted em thanks gnomefreak10:21
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jimcooncatMantice, Captive should be the appropriate tool, but I haven't used it10:22
ManticeI thought there was no way to get from NTSF ---> Fat10:22
ManticeI really dont want to screw it up10:22
kingspawnback up your ntfs data, reformat to fat32, put the data back, go nuts10:22
fluxtMantice: well, i'm not sure about conversion and having windows be happy10:22
jimcooncatMantice, you should use NTSF for you windows, not fat3210:22
fluxtMantice: conversion followed by a windows reinstall would work10:23
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fluxtjimcooncat: why?10:23
jimcooncatMantice, but make yourself a fat32 partition for sharing10:23
fluxtthat's what i did10:23
zoowith dapper, hotplugging usb storage devices does not work any more. I am using udev and a selfbuilt kernel. any ideas?10:24
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fluxtstill i wish i made the windows drive fat32 also10:24
jimcooncatfat32 is a bitch to maintain if you have a lot of usage -- not so bad though if you're a grandma though10:24
ManticeI have 120 gb for windows ------- 250 gb hd for movies / music ----------- 40 gb seagate for ubuntu10:24
fluxtjimcooncat: it's not so bad if you partition your drive10:24
ManticeWould fat32 be good for my 250 gb hdd ?10:25
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fluxtMantice: well the max fat32 size is somewhere between 20 and 40 gig, i can't remember exactly10:25
HealotYES... if you want insecurity and easy access to others :)10:25
jimcooncatfluxt, I'd install the windows on ntfs, but mount the "Documents and Settings" on fat32 if I was to reinstall10:25
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Tempest2k32 gig10:25
fluxtthere go go lol10:25
Tempest2kyou can make bigger fat32 parts10:26
sickdudehi all10:26
Mantice>< Im going crazy10:26
jimcooncatI think there's drivers for read/write to reiserfs for windows, but i dont recall exactly10:26
fluxtjimcooncat: you'd never want windows to see linux ;)10:26
enycyou can have much more than 32gb on fat32 ... win winnt5/5.1 won't format a fat32 over about 32gb... but will work with it fineeee10:27
Tempest2kubuntu seems very simalar to debian is it based on debian ?10:27
enycTempest2k: yes it is....10:27
ManticeYeah it is10:27
gnomefreakTempest2k: yes10:27
enycTempest2k: but not everything is derived from a debian package etc.10:27
sickdudeis this the right chan for server questions?10:27
fluxtenyc: any idea on the max partition size if you mkfs.vfat ?10:27
Tempest2kgood im used to debian and im on a xgl mission10:28
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ManticeArtical on Linux.com Automatix kicks Ubuntu into gear10:28
Sp4rKyhi10:28
gnomefreaksickdude: relating to ubuntu yes if we cant answer we might beable to send you somewhere that can10:28
sickdudecool :)10:28
enycfluxt: erm remember you need to -F 32  or something to set fat32 type...10:28
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gnomefreak!automatix10:28
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.10:28
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sickdudeim reinstalling my webserver but i cant seem to get a password for root in mysqladmin10:29
jimcooncatgnomefreak, wished I'd seen that sooner about automatix, thanks10:29
fluxtgnomefreak: what is that echo command doing?10:29
sickdudethere was something sepcial with this10:29
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sickdudebut i cant remember10:29
ManticeNo problem :)10:29
BeleysPoy10:29
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Manticeautomatrix dont work with 64 bit ---- WHY ME !10:30
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gnomefreakjimcooncat: easyubuntu is safer but still eh  much better to do it manully most of things that they install we have debs for10:30
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enycfluxt: I think a fat32 can go very large... 2tb apparetnly... BUT and file cannot be larger than 4gb10:30
enycfluxt: _anf_ file cannot be larger than 4gb10:31
enycfluxt: _any_ file cannot be larger than 4gb10:31
Mantice I have 5 gb files :(10:31
jimcooncatgnomefreak, I'm reinstalling now anyway, but when I ran automatix I didn't like what I saw it doing10:31
fluxtenyc: yeah being 32bit 4gb seems logical for file size10:31
enycfluxt: thats a different matter10:31
rofl-waffleAny ideas why I can't apt-get snort? It's apparently not in my package tree, do I need to update it or soemthing?10:32
kingspawnMantice, why do you have 5 gb files?10:32
enycfluxt: the directory entry header (same as fat12/fat16 essentially) has a 32bit field for filesize and a 32bit field for starting-cluster  basically.. I think10:32
fluxtkingspawn: dvd rips probably10:32
gnomefreakrofl-waffle: its in the universe repo10:33
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rofl-waffleAnd how do I get that?10:33
gnomefreakubotu tell rofl-waffle about universe10:33
gnomefreakrofl-waffle: read your pm please10:33
kingspawnfluxt, ah, i see. i'm old fashioned, i hate things that big (sometimes i have nightmares about getting windows 95 on floppies)10:33
enycfluxt: the fileseze field and the size of the cluster nomber  pointer are entirely separate ;-)10:33
fluxtenyc: and the max cluster size = 32bit?10:33
rofl-wafflethanks10:33
gnomefreakyw10:33
ManticeKingspawn, ... stuff :)10:34
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sickdudethe IRC link isnt correct on the main ubuntu page btw, it links you to the mailinglist page10:34
ManticeKingspawn, Fedoracore 4 is nearly 4 gb10:34
gnomefreaksickdude: what page10:34
gnomefreakubuntu.com?10:35
ManticeKingspawn, And pure dvd rips are like 8 gb :)10:35
sickdudeubuntulinux.org10:35
kingspawnMantice, *shudder* :)10:35
revolutionaryanyone want to come to Iraq to clean up america's holocaust?10:35
revolutionarywith me10:35
Healotyo...10:35
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fluxtenyc: if the cluster size storage is a dword then the max size would be 1844674406511961702510:35
Whatsisnamerofl10:35
Healotubuntu related question only, please... we need those10:35
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sickdudegnomefreak: ubuntulinux.org10:36
Whatsisnamelol what a pansy10:36
Tempest2ksoulds like a nice holiday lol10:36
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kingspawnwhat this channel needs is politics on top of the other chaos10:36
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Yuki|awaykingspawn, I think that might slaughter Freenode's bandwidth. :)10:37
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ManticeSome time's this channel needs to get a bit off topic10:37
gnomefreaksickdude: i see what you mean but we cant change that if you click the link than on right hand side you will see irc click that10:37
Yuki|awayMantice, I guess everyone goes to -offtopic. P10:37
Yuki|awayxp*10:37
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gnomefreakMantice: thats what #ubuntu-offtopic was made for10:37
ManticeNo one talks in there though10:38
sickdudegnomefreak: just letting you know :)10:38
kingspawnYuki|away, hehe, yes it probably would ;)10:38
ManticeTheres like a message every hour10:38
gnomefreakty sickdude i will let the right people know10:38
sickdudejust helping out10:38
Yuki|awayMantice, it livens up sometimes.10:39
ManticeYeah. I saw some guys fighting about a blog10:39
Manticelike really fighting10:39
Manticeabout the definition of a blog lol10:39
DBOO_o10:40
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DBOsomeone must have forgot their meds10:40
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Whatsisnameif i'm not back in 5 minutes10:40
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Whatsisnamecall a computer ambulance10:40
ManticeDepends: mythtv-common (=0.17-3) but 0.18.1-5 is to be installed10:41
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Mantice Depends: libmyth-0.17  but it is not installable10:41
Mantice Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable10:41
ManticeI think myth tv is broken :S10:41
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Manticelol10:43
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balaywhat do I do with broken packages?10:44
gnomefreakMantice: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin10:44
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gnomefreakbalay: sudo apt-get -f install  <no package>10:45
Healotanyone tried Gambas before? does it really need Qt, because when I installed it, it doesn't require Qt...10:45
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balay<no package>  == name of the broken package?10:46
spiritzHello; I'm using gnome windows decoration under kde; I'd like to change decoration theme, what is the gnome configuration program I should start?10:46
gnomefreakbalay: no package = dont use a package just use the command10:46
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balaylol ok tks :)10:46
gnomefreakyw10:46
Manticehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1038310:47
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gnomefreakspiritz: if you have themes use that if not use gnome control panel (dont remember what one kde uses10:47
ChrisBradleywow - hope this all works - its taking forever to set up10:47
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spiritzgnomefreak: ok I found control control center, I guess it's this one10:47
gnomefreakMantice: your poor repos list :( ill give you one to replace yours with10:48
ManticeThanks :)10:48
gnomefreakyw10:48
balaygnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/607038 . It didn't work :\10:49
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Healotnow I know, Gambas can't really work out 64-bit pointers :)10:51
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gnomefreakMantice: http://pastebin.com/60704210:51
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gnomefreakbalay: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin please i might know the issue10:52
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mathieuhi, i have every locale environment var set to en_US.UTF-8, but the output of the command-line programs is still french. what setting do i need to change?10:53
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balaygnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/60704310:53
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gnomefreakbalay: replace your sources.list with this one please10:54
gnomefreakbalay:  http://pastebin.com/60704210:54
gnomefreakguys when your done replacing dont forget to run sudo apt-get update10:56
gnomefreakmathieu: give me 2 secs let me see if i remember the command10:56
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gnomefreakmathieu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales    that should help than restart gnome please10:57
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alan|homeb'jour tout le monde10:57
gnomefreakalan|home: please join #ubuntu-fr for french10:58
ManticeE: Type '1.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:58
ManticeE: The list of sources could not be read.10:58
ManticeGo to the repository dialog to correct the problem.10:58
alan|homegnomefreak: ho, i'm sorry, i thought that was what i had typed...10:58
gnomefreakMantice: plaste the new sources.list again please sounds like something like a stray mark10:58
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ManticeIts copying the line numbers :S10:59
canllaithGday, anyone know how long before gnome 2.14 packages will be in dapper?10:59
Half-Leftcanllaith, they are now11:00
gnomefreakMantice: use the white space under the numbered lines to copy and paste11:00
bimberi!info gnome-about dapper11:00
ubotugnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.13.92-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 400 kB11:00
gnomefreakcanllaith: they are already11:00
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canllaithLooks like my mirror hasn't updated then11:00
canllaithok thanks guys :)11:00
bimberi(or ubotu)11:00
gnomefreakthey were uploaded on the 14th11:00
canllaithtell me, is a dist-upgrade from hoary likely to work ?11:01
balaygnomefreak: still the same :| but tks anyway11:01
gnomefreakcanllaith: from hoary to what?11:01
canllaithdapper11:01
ManticeI fixed it11:01
ManticeNow it comes up with heaps of messages11:01
gnomefreakcanllaith: no best bet is to upgrade to breezy skipping releases is a good way to bork it all11:01
ManticeW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists11:01
canllaithoh well, it's a throwaway box anyway11:01
ManticeThats the first one11:01
gnomefreakMantice: pastebin the messages please11:01
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kingspawnMantice, apt-get update, perhaps?11:02
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canllaithgnomefreak: I tried updating to dapper from breeze and that borked very badly, so it seems there isn't really any way that's completely safe.11:02
canllaithbreezy*11:02
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ManticeIm new, I had no idea :011:02
gnomefreakcanllaith: from breezy to dapper has its issues only because dapper is still in testing has not been released to public yet11:02
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gnomefreakMantice: anytime you change that list in any way always run apt-get update11:03
canllaithYeah, I could use KDE 3.5 - I've just compiled it for the moment but only kdelibs and base. I can't be bothered compiling all of bloody KDE on a laptop right now.11:03
kingspawnMantice, as gnomefreak says, it needs to update its lists11:03
gnomefreakcanllaith: use easysource to get the kde 3.511:03
HealotTesting version is really meant for testers... not suit for production yet11:03
gnomefreakno need to compile it11:04
Healottry to install dapper separately from its previous version11:04
gnomefreakubotu tell canllaith about easysource11:04
canllaithI doubt you have the latest stuff from trunk so I'm compiling one copy anyway.11:04
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Half-LeftANy notice beagled take all ram?11:04
canllaithah, I probably can't use that. There is only one debian mirror in my country and we pay a lot of money to download internationally.11:05
Half-Leftanyone*11:05
gnomefreakcanllaith:  suit yourself but you use the repos for kde 3.5 and you get the updates to go along with it11:05
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canllaithgnomefreak: I sincerely doubt you're packaging the stuff that's as late as I have, I am quite sure you don't have qt4 and trunk, and I can't use a mirror outside of my country. Thank you, but that just doesn't work for me.11:05
firepolhi there, is it ok to remove the ubuntu-minimal package?11:05
canllaithI'd like 3.5 packages, but if I can't get them through the normal debian mirror I'll just compile or wait.11:06
firepol(as i have a fixed ip address im trying to remove the dhcp3 package, which will remove also ubuntu-minimal...)11:06
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dobblegofrom where can I download the Dapper daily builds?11:06
kingspawnfirepol: i suggest you try it and report back here :)11:06
gnomefreakcanllaith: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main  its a ubuntu mirror11:07
gnomefreakubotu tell dobblego about dailybuild11:07
canllaithIt's not in New Zealand, so I can't use it.11:07
dobblegota11:07
gnomefreakdobblego: your pm is a good place to start ;)11:08
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firepolkingspawn: i read the ubuntu-minimal is needed maybe to upgrade some packages11:08
gnomefreakcanllaith: are you using debian or ubuntu?11:08
canllaithUnless the ubuntu mirror here is mirroring it11:08
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canllaithubuntu, the people who do the debian mirror here do both11:08
firepolkingspawn: anyway ill try that11:08
gnomefreakcanllaith: same everywhere for most part11:08
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kingspawnfirepol: well, theres nothing stopping you from adding it later maybe. i usually just try :)11:08
Half-Leftdeskbar is just awesome with beagle live11:08
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ManticeCould some one give me a command to install myth tv11:09
gnomefreakMantice: use synaptic11:09
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canllaithcould it be in breezy-backports ?11:09
canllaithI'm just browsing around the local mirror to see what they have11:10
canllaithThey've got KDE 3.5 packages in a funny directory, but I'm unsure how to add it to my apt sources11:10
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Hobbseecanllaith: hey, dont you usually hang around in #kde, or have i got the people comfused?11:11
Gnabbethis might be a stupid question but how do I configure sudo so I can use the tools in the administration-menu with my normal user? (gdm is configured so I can't log in with root)11:11
canllaithHobbsee: yeah, I'm a KDE developer11:11
Hobbseecanllaith: answer to the question:  add the line to the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list11:11
canllaithI'm in here at the moment wanting elp with my ubuntu though :)11:11
Hobbseecanllaith: yes i thought so - want to develop for kubuntu as well?  :P11:11
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Hobbseeah, boring!11:11
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canllaithHobbsee: I already do dude, upstream!11:11
dan__i got my windows partition mounted11:11
ManticeI did, " Depends: libmyth-0.17  but it is not installable"11:11
dan__but only root can access it11:11
canllaithI mean, you guys do use KDE right? ;)11:11
kingspawndan__, you could mount it umask=022211:12
Hobbseecanllaith: hehe.  sure i do, i'm on kubuntu.  if you're upstream, can we see some more work on knetworkmanager please?  pretty please? :P11:12
dan__so umount /mnt/windows ?11:12
canllaithheh sorry, I do kicker/kopete/documentation/marketing/promotion11:12
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dan__then mount -t ntfs umask=0222 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ?11:13
kingspawndan__, with -o in front of umask that looks good11:13
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Manticegnomefreak, i cant find libmyth-0.1711:14
dan__ta11:14
Hobbseecanllaith: ah goody, i'll remember that.  *thinks of kopete bugs*11:14
canllaithkopete's latest beta is rockin11:14
Hobbsee0.12?11:14
canllaithIt has so many bug fixes and it rocks hugely. I haven't done much there though, mostly testing bugs with mattr.11:14
canllaithYes11:14
ManticeE: Package libmyth-0.17 has no installation candidate11:14
gnomefreakMantice: when you try to install mythtv it says it cant find it?11:15
canllaithI love the new xhtml/css chat window rendering, the old xslt was really slow and horrid11:15
gnomefreakok hold on a sec11:15
Hobbsee:)11:15
ManticePackage libmyth-0.17 is not available, but is referred to by another package11:15
canllaithand, the new stylesheets are prettier11:15
Hobbseecanllaith: i think there's a separate unsupported repo about it.  i should have asked, this morning, in our meeting.  oh well11:15
kingspawnMantice, just search for it in synaptic.11:15
Manticenot there in synamptic :(11:15
canllaithhttp://canllaith.org/kopete.png11:15
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kingspawnaha, okay. sorry then :)11:16
gnomefreakMantice: run apt-cache search libmyth see what version it gives you11:16
canllaithThe problem I have is in my country internet is really expensive. I can basically only grab ubuntu updates from one mirror, packages.debian.co.nz11:16
canllaithSo unless they're mirroring it, I can't have it.11:16
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rohhi11:17
Manticesudo apt-cache libmyth-0.1711:17
Mantice ?11:17
Hobbseecanllaith: ah ok, yep11:17
gnomefreakMantice: no just apt-cache search libmyth11:17
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Manticelibmythes-dev - simple thesaurus library (development files)11:18
Manticelibmythes0 - simple thesaurus library (development files)11:18
Manticemythtv-debug - Debugging symbols for MythTV11:18
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gnomefreakMantice: is that it?11:18
jolly_hello I have some problems with my wireless:/ everything worked fine under the installation but when i boot up to ubuntu again the staus  is "disconnected"11:18
Manticelibmyth-0.17 i dont know11:19
gnomefreakMantice: did it list libmyth-0.17???11:19
ManticeWhy dont myth tv come with these required files by defult11:19
mathieugnomefreak: thanks for your help, but dpkg-reconfigure locales just resets the locale env vars. those are set up correctly already11:19
ManticeThat was everything it found11:20
gnomefreakMantice: ok give me a sec let me look for something11:20
gnomefreakMantice: than try system>admin>language selecter11:20
gnomefreaknot Mantice  but mathieu11:21
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mathieugnomefreak: that's just gnome..11:21
mathieugnomefreak: and a few apps11:21
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sickdude:wq11:22
sickdudeoop11:22
sickdudes11:22
gnomefreakbreezy uses libmyth-0.1811:24
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gnomefreak^^^ is betting thats why people have a hard time with installing that11:25
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firepolhi, im trying to installed a winsows shared printer under my ubuntu installation. i enter the System Settings > Printers > I click "Administrator mode" > i enter my password > then i select "windows shared" > i select it from the list (Epson Stylus color 860) > i let "recommended" foomatic+gimp and i click "next" > i get this error : Unable to load the requested driver:  Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_Color_680,gimp11:26
firepol-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation. <-- how can i solve this?11:26
Tempest2k is there a howto to get xgl working on flight 5 ?11:27
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HealotNein, BASIC ist doof. C++ ist das Beste.11:28
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YukiCussHealot, ich denke auch. :)11:29
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Manticegnomefreak, is there a way to fix it ?11:29
perceptualchaoshey are there any stable shockwave plugins in existence for AMD64?11:29
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Healotperceptualchaos, no, atm11:30
perceptualchaosok thanks11:30
Healottry to use Firefox+plugins 32bit version11:31
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perceptualchaosAMD64 is a real pain in the ass innit11:31
Healotwell11:31
Healotnot the processor, the software support sucks behind11:31
Healotthe processor rocks!@11:31
perceptualchaosI tried installing the one from the website and it just said that it doesn't support my architecture or something11:31
jimcooncatI'm still stuck trying to extract files from a tar archive...11:32
perceptualchaosyeah11:32
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perceptualchaostar --help11:32
Manticegnomefreak, any luck11:32
jimcooncatjust want to extract a subdirectory from within the archive11:32
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Healotor "man tar"11:32
perceptualchaosheh yeah I was about to say that11:32
jimcooncatyes, I've been through man and tutorials, wouldn't ask here11:32
Healotjimcooncat, if you're in a desktop, use file-roller _GNOME_ or ark in KDE11:32
perceptualchaosthanks Healot11:33
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gnomefreakMantice: you can try installing libmyth-0.18 and see if you can install mythtv after that (not real sure) but it wont hurt anything11:33
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Healotjsut install that version... it should work fine, unless the latter package was installed against it11:34
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ManticeE: Couldn't find package libmyth-0.1811:34
kingspawnjimcooncat, tried something along the lines of tar xvf <filename>? perhaps appending the directory in the archive you want extracted to the end of that?11:34
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=== Mantice Computer fans turn off and cpu explodes because Mantice downloaded libmyth-0.18 :)
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jimcooncat tar --extract --file=hda1.boot.tgz mnt/temp2/grub/11:36
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kingspawnyou need to do z also, since its a gz file11:36
jimcooncatI get mnt/temp2/grub/*11:36
jimcooncatnot just *11:36
kingspawnxfz11:36
kingspawnif you dont want verbose, which is v.11:36
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Phlostenhowdy all11:37
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gnomefreakMantice: can you please paste your sources.list file again in pastebin there is something not right11:38
gnomefreakthat lib is in multiverse in breezy and i could have sworn we got you multiverse11:38
bimberiMantice: what's the output of 'uname -r'?11:39
gnomefreakMantice: its libmyth-.018.111:40
gnomefreak0.18.111:40
Manticehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:40
gnomefreakbimberi: he now has breezy sources as he did before but this time more than 3 :(11:40
kingspawnwith all this talk of libmyth im starting to wonder what Myth actually is11:40
ManticeE: Couldn't find package libmyth-.018.111:40
kingspawnsee his correction, mantice11:41
kingspawnone more .11:41
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gnomefreakMantice: 0.18.111:41
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gnomefreakthat was my typo11:41
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HealotMantice11:41
delphinemikedamour11:41
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Mantice????11:42
gnomefreakMantice: libmyth-0.18.111:42
Manticesudo apt-get install libmyth-0.18.111:42
gnomefreakyes11:42
ManticeE: Couldn't find package libmyth-0.18.111:42
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gnomefreakMantice: what is output of uname -r11:43
Manticehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1038511:43
Manticeuname -r ?????11:43
HealotYou have searched for libmyth in breezy, architecture i386. Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. :)11:43
gnomefreakMantice: type uname -r in terminal11:43
gnomefreakHealot: i found the file for 38611:44
ruschiHi guys - I get nuts with routing here. even I had the "echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" action done my stupid box doesn't do routing....11:44
ruschiany ideas?11:44
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ruschione interface is wlan and the other is a normal realtek eth0\11:44
Healotruschi, you need to configure the route and iptable rules first?11:44
gnomefreakif he comes back with 64bit he cant get it would be my best guess11:44
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ruschiI didn't use iptables - is it necesary for simple routing wihtout firewall capabilities?11:45
Mantice2.6.12-10-amd64-generic11:45
Mantice :P11:45
gnomefreakthats why11:45
gnomefreak:( Mantice11:45
kingspawnMantice, if you are unsure of what a command does, like uname, you "man uname" first, so you can learn about it before issuing it11:45
Healotruschi, nay?11:45
ManticePlease, pplease dont tell me11:45
Manticeamd 64 :@11:45
ruschiHesalot, - waht is nay?11:45
gnomefreakMantice: it dont run on 64bit :( iirc11:46
Healot"no", mid-English11:46
ruschiok11:46
ManticeCant I emulate it like I did for ET ?11:46
Healotlinux 32, Mantice ?11:46
ManticeYeah11:46
Healotyou could try that...11:46
gnomefreakMantice: iirc you can use chroot but i dont know hot ot do that11:46
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gnomefreakhow-to not hot ot11:47
Healoti prefer recompile if that could work... like I did on some packages...11:47
ruschiHesalot - so I don't need iptables ?11:47
ruschiany other ideas11:47
ruschiI had routing years ago without any bugs and didn't try it anymore11:47
ManticeYou know Dapper ? When does that come out ?11:47
ruschiit just worked11:47
gnomefreakMantice: as soon as april 20th as late as june11:48
gnomefreakMantice: we are waiting to find out11:48
ruschi@mantice - there was an announcement of mike shuttleworth to delay the release11:48
rohruschi what exactly are you trying to do?11:48
Mantice:S11:49
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Healotruschi, iptables is the base routing/firewall for linux, nay escaping it11:49
ManticeI need to get to 32 bit pronto this 64 just dont cut it11:49
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Healotruschi, bridging/ICS?11:49
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gnomefreakMantice: reinstall in 32bit? unless you have alot to lose11:49
rohHealot if he only needs routing, no nat, no snat an so on he does not need iptables.11:49
ruschiI have a box w/o wlan and my man computer with wlan and 2 other interfaces so I want this no-wlan box to get online using my computer as router11:49
ManticeI have to download a cd image?11:50
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ManticeHow would I go about downgrading11:50
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ruschiok11:50
rohruschi dsl?11:50
Healotthat's why I am asking... just routing or ICS/Bridging?11:50
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IceBiTehola11:50
ruschiyes in a shared house the DSL modem/Router is upstairs11:50
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IceBiTesomeone speak spanish?11:50
linuxboyfriendhi all11:51
Healot!es11:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:51
gnomefreakMantice: i dont think so i think same cd has has both but i cant be sure i only use 32bit11:51
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IceBiTeok thx11:51
rohruschi so all you need is bridging between wlan and lan?11:51
linuxboyfrienddoes anyone know that why these days linmodems.org is not working?11:51
ruschiyes!11:51
ManticeWould upgrade install ?11:51
gnomefreakHealot: can he just install i386 kernel and boot to it?11:51
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ruschihow do I do this?11:51
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ruschithis is why I go nuts and don't understand the problems11:52
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ManticeI think all my programs are designed for 64 bit :S11:52
IceBiTecan i upgrade from breezy to daper using apt?11:52
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ruschisimple problem - no need for the capabilities of iptables11:52
rohruschi you need the bridge-utils installed.11:52
gnomefreakubotu tell IceBiTe about upgrade11:52
ruschithanks11:52
gnomefreakIceBiTe: use the upgrader please we need people to test it11:53
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IceBiTeok11:53
rohruschi then you basically do this: brctl addbr br011:53
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rohruschi add the 2 interfaces (wl0 and eth0 for example)11:53
roh brctl addif br0 wl0; brctl addif br0 eth011:54
Healotgnomefreak, if he isntall 64bit distro... that means the otehr programs are 64... it won't run11:54
ruschiit says "add bridge failed: Package not installed"11:54
rohand don't forget to keep the interfaces up (ip link set up <dev>)11:54
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rohhuh11:54
rohruschi did you install bridge-utils?11:54
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gnomefreakhe needs to run install again than :( <<<atleast safest way11:54
Healotruschi you need the bridge-utils installed. he said that before11:55
Misteriihey all11:55
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ruschiI jsut isntalled it and the command is there11:55
ruschiapt-get install bridge-utils11:55
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rohruschi what nic do you use? which drivers11:55
jooozekhi11:55
maentyHi, all11:55
ruschibrctl addif br0 wlan0; brctl addif br0 eth0 <--- this line now states that I don't have interface wlan011:56
mrkojeHi11:56
maentyWhat is the best email-checker (pop3) for linux?11:56
jooozeki need an now playing script11:56
fluxt!hello11:56
ubotuHi, fluxt!11:56
ruschibut its up and running11:56
jooozekfor xchat and beep media player11:56
rohruschi you have to use the interface names for your nics11:56
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rohi dunno what nic and wlan-nic you have so i just guessted wlan0 and eth011:56
mrkojeDepends. Do you want command line or a GUI11:56
roh-t11:56
fluxti like that !hello much better than the old one11:56
ruschiI do! I have wlan0 and eth011:56
ruschithese are my interface names11:57
mrkojeMutt I think is good for CLI and Thunderbird is probably good for GUI11:57
ruschiat least ifconfig says so!11:57
Misteriiok, I've been googling all day/moring/night and I found that in order to start a GNU/Linux, I need to define its kernel and root location in menu.lst. But I'm looking to boot into Xubuntu, which is a metapackage. Does it have a kernel of its own? Have I COMpletely misunderstood?11:57
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Misteriianyone?11:57
chemajamaenty: not sure about the Linux build, but Thunderbird is somewhat flaky on Windows XP11:57
rohruschi what hardware is it? which drivers? not every driver supports bridging11:57
misharihi.. i was wondering if there's any easy way of selectively installing package from another release by using apt11:58
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misharifor example.. i'm using breezy, but i want the 2.6.15 kernel from dapper11:58
ruschirealtek 8139 and prism2_usb11:58
ruschiI think I go back to iptables11:58
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ruschioverkill but it should work11:58
Misteriimishari, you need to edit sources.lst11:59
rohi dunno the latter one, but the rtl should work11:59
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ruschiok - I go offline for reboot in ubuntu default kernel - thanks for advice11:59
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Misteriinp12:00
mishariMisterii: how do i prevent it from updating all the packages?12:00
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jooozeksomebody can help me ? i need an now playing in beep media player script or plugin for Xchat12:00
roh*sigh*... he propably just would have needed to make shure the bridge-interface has state UP ;)12:00
mpoolhi, where should i report acpi suspend problems?12:00
mpoolinto malone?12:00
mishariMisterii: if i do an apt-get udpate and i have both breezy and dapper in the sources.lst then it'll upgrade the old packages to dapper no?12:00
Misteriiapt-get install <TellMeWhatYouNeed>12:00
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maentychemaja: I'm using Thunderbird as my email client, but I'm talking about email checker12:01
`bOOm`hi everyone, I need to avoid normal users to shutdown my machine, what can I do?12:01
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MisteriiWell, if you don't want breezy so put "hash" in front of the line, no?12:01
maentychemaja: A small program that can be in system tray and check the email for example in 5 minutes, and then notify me how many new mails are in the pop3-inbox12:01
Healothey isnt KDE is the only DE that has Suspend Feature... or GNOME has it too?12:01
mpoolHealot: gnome has it too, under System/Logout12:01
Healotoh the Hibernate part...12:02
maentychemaja: For example Pop Peeper is a good email checker in Windows. http://www.poppeeper.com/  However, I'm trying to find simila program for Linux/KDE12:02
HealotI freaking hate shuttin down...12:02
`bOOm`hi everyone, I need to avoid normal users to shutdown my machine, what can I do? Maybe I should remove the shutdown icon from their panel but i don't know how to do it, can you help me?12:02
HealotSuspend vs. Hibernate12:03
kingspawnboom: man shutdown might give a tip12:03
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mishariMisterii: yeah i've just added dapper and ran aptitude.. it seems to have bumped up the version of many other packages as well and seems to be set to install those12:03
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roh`bOOm` you can use the new lock-out features from dapper/gnome 2.1412:04
`bOOm`kingspawn, man shutdown gives me help for command line shutdown, but as you know12:04
Misteriihuh?12:04
`bOOm`it is already protected12:04
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`bOOm`roh where can i find them?12:04
maentyDoes anyone know any good email checkers (not mail client) for Linux?12:04
Misteriiyou do apt-get update and then apt-get install to those packages you need..12:04
maentyI mean a program that would make small icon on system tray and check pop3-email for example once per 5 minutes, then notify me with number how many new mails I got in the inbox12:04
Healot`bOOm`, under GNOME... take a look at "Login Screen Setup"12:05
Healotmake sure the "Secure Action Menu" checkbox is checked12:05
roh`bOOm` i did not try it, but its intended for terminals and stull like that where you can lock down menus and panels so the user cannot modify anything and you could even remove shutdown and logout12:05
Healotthen normal user cannot reboot/shutdown, etc...12:05
Misteriianyone with ubuntu and xubuntu here?12:05
roh`bOOm` it will be in dapper afaik12:05
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chemajamaenty: sorry i dont use that type of program12:05
chemajamaenty: freshmeat.net12:06
maentychemaja: Got answer in other channel. Kbiff seems to be exactly what I'm looking for.12:06
chemajak12:06
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`bOOm`roh, I really don't know where to search12:06
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gnomefreak`bOOm`: try apt-cache search menu   see if its lists a menu locker or something liek that12:07
Healot`bOOm`, under GNOME... take a look at "Login Screen Setup"12:07
Healotmake sure the "Secure Action Menu" checkbox is checked12:07
Healotthen normal user cannot reboot/shutdown, etc...12:07
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gnomefreakHealot: way much easier ;)12:08
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`bOOm`Healot, some of my admin tools are not installed, can you give me the exact package name so i can apt-get it?12:08
Healotit's available in GNOME... I am sure KDM has it too12:08
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Healotor some feature alike12:08
`bOOm`Healot, so you think it's on system----something---else?12:09
Healotit's part of GDM12:09
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Misteriiwhere is the xubuntu-kernel located?12:10
eckz^How do i mount my disks after ubuntu installation...12:11
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bimberiMisterii: /boot12:12
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bimberieckz^: what type of partitions on your disks?12:12
eckz^NTFS12:13
bimberi!mountwindows12:13
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:13
eckz^Thx bimberi :)12:13
bimberieckz^: yw :)12:13
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tecsare there animnated or 3d desktops? i mean wall paperS?12:14
eckz^btw..does it mount all my disks ?12:14
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bimberieckz^: iirc it does but haven't run it recently myself12:15
`bOOm`guys, there's no such option in gdmsetup12:15
eckz^okok12:15
gnomefreak`bOOm`: you mean gdm as in log-in screen?12:15
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`bOOm`gnomefreak, i tried to run gdmsetup and i have not found any useful option to avoid shutdown from normal users12:16
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NoWhereMan[away] is there some way to have a terminal emulator in nautilus windows as in konqueror?12:17
gnomefreak`bOOm`: install gtweakui ;)12:17
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bludoes anybody speak romanian here?12:18
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GnarusLeo!met12:18
ubotuGnarusLeo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:18
GnarusLeo!amule12:18
ubotusudo apt-get install amule12:18
GnarusLeoAnyone know a met server?12:18
feestbijtjeCan some one help me to install my logitech quick cam ive tried google i only get french sites12:19
gnomefreaktecs: here is some but not ubuntu http://www.3dmindscape.com/?cd=top10&PHPSESSID=9ce99e79cceebd307c005c551137c6d712:19
gnomefreaktecs: dont use that nm12:20
feestbijtjegnomefreak,  could you help me out with logitech quickcem expres?12:20
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bluvorbeste careva romana?12:20
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GnarusLeowhat should I set for a .met server for amule? The default one doesnt work12:21
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Whatsisnameug12:22
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gnomefreaktecs: http://www.freewallpapers.to/digital2.htm12:22
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gnomefreakubotu tell feestbijtje about webcam12:22
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tecsthnx:)12:23
tecsand oh by the way how will i be able to know if Wine is already isntalled?12:23
Tempest2kwhen installing flight 5 i get pkgsel fail failed when installing software anybody else get this ?12:23
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g0dchildgnomefreak, remember i was telling you about this parse error [http://rafb.net/paste/results/T4oVgC39.html]  when i ran apt-get..is there anyway to fix it?12:25
g0dchildis it possible caused by an upgrade error?12:25
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bimberitecs: look in synaptic or use 'dpkg -l wine' and look for 'ii' at the start of the line12:25
feestbijtjegnomefreak, dousnt work -_-12:25
katrusH'lo.12:25
Tempest2kits a fresh syetem12:26
Tempest2ksaid failed eror code 112:26
feestbijtjeg0dchild, did you edited you're apt-get sources list?12:26
g0dchildnope.12:27
g0dchildi didnt12:27
Misteriican anyone help me with xUbuntu?12:28
Gambit-hey guys, is there an apt-get package for Sun's JVM?12:28
feestbijtjeg0dchild, type sudo apt-get update12:28
feestbijtjeg0dchild, in terminal12:28
g0dchildi suspect its got smeth to do with karamba though12:28
g0dchildfeestbijtje, - did that too...with -f12:28
katrusI didn't have any trouble with Xubuntu, m'self. The install instructions on the wiki work very well12:29
feestbijtjeg0dchild,  i dunno dit it asked to?12:29
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feestbijtjeg0dchild, lets play it like this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#add-repositories12:29
kenashi12:29
feestbijtjehi12:29
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kenascan anyone pls help me to configure my netwrok in ubuntu12:30
feestbijtje*hugs kenas*12:30
IceBiTebye all!12:30
feestbijtjebye ice12:30
g0dchildfeestbijtje, >>> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23911 package `karamba':12:30
g0dchild missing version12:30
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kenasi installed smb and everything is wrong now12:30
kenas:(12:30
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feestbijtjeoh its dpg12:30
feestbijtjeg0dchild,  pm me12:30
g0dchildok12:30
shukhrathello dear community12:30
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katrusHey, that happened for me, too. I imstalled SMB, and I can't see any of the shared files on my LAN anymore.12:31
shukhrathow i can install opera browser via apt-get ?12:31
bimberiMisterii: you get xubuntu by installing the xubuntu-desktop package.  Same kernel as ubuntu.  Have a look at...12:31
bimberi!xubuntu12:31
ubotuhmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu12:31
kenaskatrus and me have same problem12:31
bimberi!opera12:31
ubotuopera is probably not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser12:31
kenasand because of that i cant even print in my network printer12:31
kenas:(12:31
feestbijtje!firefox12:32
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FrogzooMisterii: why not just install Ubuntu & take it from there?12:32
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JustinLynnI just saw the Computer History Browser post on the planet and I find the concept to be interesting. It would help to interpret contextual commands like "open the report I had open at lunch yesterday" or "show all emails sent to members of the control group within the last week" I think that developing this infrastructure would be a great step toward a natural language interface and a leap in usability.12:32
bimberishukhrat: not sure if you can, but you can download the .deb package and install using 'sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb'12:32
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shukhratthanks !12:33
shukhrati 'll try12:33
bimberishukhrat: yw :)12:33
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Gambit-Hey guys, I need a quick pointer to what jvm to install on a ubuntu machine to have SunJVM1.4.1 compatability, any suggestions?12:34
bimberiJustinLynn: absolutely,  and bring on voice recognition with it12:34
kenasok noone can help me for network configuration12:34
_jindWill Dapper Drake ship with Gnome 2.14?12:34
kenasits fine12:34
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Misteriithe wiki xubuntu instructs on installing Xubuntu alone12:34
bimberi_jind: yes12:34
PuMpErNiCkLe_jind: yesk, it already has it12:34
_jindNice12:34
PuMpErNiCkLes/yesk/yes/12:35
Frogzookenas: but you can connect via ip, yes?12:35
kenasyup12:35
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_jindAnd why is my nick fscked12:35
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MisteriiI need to add it aside Ubuntu, and I don't know hot to make Grub understand me :(12:35
jind:)12:35
kenasfrogzoo yeah12:35
Frogzookenas: what r u using to browse the network? smb4k or what?12:35
shukhratbimberi: have you worked with ftp server ?  i would like start ftp server in my Ubuntu but how to start ....... dont'nt no12:35
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kenassmb12:35
kenasthats all12:35
kenasi dont know if it is 4k or not12:36
bimberishukhrat: i haven't, but if you install one it is usually started automatically by the installer12:36
kenasit worked at the begining but i installed samba.. and all the network disapeared12:36
kenas:(12:36
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Frogzookenas: if i understand properly, your ubuntu box was accessing windows shares, & now it can't?12:36
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kenasno..12:37
bimberiMisterii: if you install xubuntu-desktop it installs xfce which you choose from your login managers Session menu, not the grub menu12:37
kenaswell sort of12:37
shukhratbimberi: the problem how to oparete with ftp . .... i already install it12:37
kenasbefore i could see my network...12:37
fluxtbimberi: does it install xfm too?12:37
kenasnow i cant12:37
kenasnow i dont see any computer12:37
Frogzookenas: define 'see'12:37
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kenasi can do ping12:38
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kenasbut i dont actually access my network12:38
JustinLynnbimberi: I'd imagine much of the framework could be tied in with gnomevfs to track file changes. However we should probably start work on a database backed filesystem so that we could take advantage of inbuilt capabilities of a database in terms of sorting and searching for records based on metadata.12:38
bimberifluxt: xfm isn't a dependency of xubuntu-desktop no12:39
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kenasthere is only one icon in my network place and its Windows Netwrok and its empty12:39
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shukhratis it any one who knows VSAT12:39
shukhrat?12:40
bimberishukhrat: which package?12:40
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JustinLynnbimberi: if we moved to a dbfs we could do away with the gnomevfs dependency and associated metadata conversion layers, versioning and device independence would also be made easier.12:42
Misteriibiberi, login managers? You mean, when I log in to Ubuntu?12:42
tecsis kubuntu considered as debian/12:42
shukhratbimderi: we have a satellite dish through which we have access to Internet12:42
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shukhratso far we used slackware but now are determined to switch to ubuntu12:42
Frogzoo_awaykenas: I really have no idea what exactly isn't working for you - suggest you take a look at 'man smb.conf' & consider if you need to enable WINS or domain master12:43
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ben_underscoreso has dapper been delayed?12:46
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kenashow can i check.. if i can access other computers in my network12:47
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fluxtben_underscore: i hear that12:47
fluxtkenas: you could try to ping them12:47
Seveasben_underscore, an official announcement whether it's been delayed will be made soon12:47
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BlueEaglekenas: sounds like a conflict in who will be the master server.12:48
fluxtnoooo, i'll use vim!12:48
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fluxti swear12:48
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shukhratwe have a satellite dish through which we have access to Internet12:48
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shukhratso far we used slackware but now are determined to switch to ubuntu12:49
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ben_underscoreshukhrat, where are you located?12:49
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RawplayerUbUNTU12:49
shukhratTajikistan12:49
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RawplayerGNU\Ubuntu12:49
Rawplayerhey Seveas ;)12:49
JustinLynnSeveas> about your topic change, I read on an article linked from digg.com that dapper had been delayed - is the delay not official as of now?12:49
Healotgdm does allow shutdown/restart :)12:49
SeveasJustinLynn, digg always jumps the gun12:50
Healotshould i remove it and use kdm instead?12:50
shukhratben_underscore: tajikistan12:50
kenashow can i ping them ?12:50
Seveasthe decision whether to delay has been made afaik but it hasn't been announced12:50
fluxtlol Seveas i just noticed :)12:50
Seveas:12:50
JustinLynnSeveas> agreed, it is pretty gullible as it's controlled by the people - and the people always hear what they want to hear. :)12:50
ben_underscoreshukhrat, really? i am in australia. are you connecting to the internet via satellite now?12:50
ben_underscoreSeveas, i read the log of the irc meeting. very democratic and level headed, i am impressed12:51
Seveasben_underscore, so am I12:51
shukhratben_underscore: No . but our sub office connect via satellite12:51
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LazyAngelHi! I installed dapper on another partition, and now it hijacked my grub. So now i can't boot into breezy anymore :( I have tried to change the boot flag back to the breezy /boot partition, but that didn't help. Still dapper's grub menu. And if i add breezy to dappher's menu.lst i just gets errors :(12:51
gnomefreakSeveas: = good bouncer ;)12:51
Seveasgnomefreak, that's not the point12:52
shukhratben_underscore: is it goof Ubuntu for satellite ?12:52
shukhrat*good12:52
gnomefreaki know Seveas and yes it did god very well12:52
Seveasthe point is that 'high command' listens to anyone in the community - that's fairly unique12:52
fluxtLazyAngel: are you refering to the right kernel etc in menu.lst ?12:52
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GnarusLeoHow can I change the names on mounted paritions? I want to change the name of the /dev/sda12:52
LazyAngelfluxt: yes, i'm very sure i do.12:52
fluxtGnarusLeo: you can't change the /dev but the /media12:53
SeveasGnarusLeo, is it a USB device?12:53
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GnarusLeoSeveas, almost, firewall12:53
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GnarusLeoFirewire* :D12:53
SeveasGnarusLeo, how are you mounting it?12:53
Seveasah12:53
markoam is there possible to do VPS on ubuntu with red hat12:53
Seveaswell, in that case: change the filesystem label12:53
GnarusLeowhere do I dp that?12:53
ben_underscoreshukhrat, i don't know about ubuntu with satellite comms, however i am involved in a project here in australia where we're going to be giving ubuntu laptops to remote aboriginal communities12:53
Seveasbecause that's what pmount uses to determine the name12:53
LazyAngelfluxt: i mounted the breezy boot partition and copyed the menu item from there, so they are exactly the same12:53
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SeveasGnarusLeo, what sort of filesystem?12:54
ben_underscoreshukhrat, they may use satellite to get in contact with the internet12:54
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fluxtLazyAngel: and what sort of error do you get?12:54
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GnarusLeoSeveas, now the partitions are called "68 GB Volume" and so on ... its three ext312:54
LazyAngelError 15: file not found12:54
ben_underscoreSeveas, do you mind if i ask if you're pia's partner?12:54
SeveasGnarusLeo, man e2label12:54
GnarusLeoty12:54
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Seveas(don't know the details)12:54
GnarusLeothats ok :) Im a good reader12:55
fluxtLazyAngel: hmm, /me thinks12:55
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kenasye si can ping them12:55
shukhratben_underscore: are you work in INGO ?12:55
Seveasben_underscore, you're probably refering to Pia Waugh - well, no, that's Jeff Waugh aka jdub12:55
kronozhow is ubuntu for wireless support?12:55
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kenasyes i can ping them12:55
ben_underscoreSeveas, ah, sorry.12:55
kenasbut i cant do anything else..12:55
kenasi cant access any computer in my network12:55
ben_underscoreshukhrat, INGO?12:55
kenasor even see them12:55
kronozthe wireless drivers i'm requiring are for ralink based cards12:55
kronozrt257012:55
fluxtLazyAngel: do you have the 'root' flag set to the right drive/partition for that kernel?12:55
Engnomehas anyone in here gotten ubuntu+ some vpn client to work with Juniper netscreen remote?12:56
bimberiMisterii: sorry, are you still there?  yes, when you log into ubuntu12:56
shukhratben_underscore: it will be free ? International Non Goverment Organization12:56
fluxtLazyAngel: i'm talking /boot/grub/menu.lst12:56
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jubeiguys is there a program in linux that detects what kind of cpu one has?12:56
fluxtjubei: cat /proc/cpuinfo12:56
teroednilshw12:56
jubeifluxt, thanks.12:57
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teroednisudo lshw;)12:57
fluxtjubei: ur welcome12:57
LondonGuyHi Room !12:57
LondonGuyHow is everyone?12:57
shukhratben_underscore: laptops will be free for that community ?12:57
fluxtfine thanks LondonGuy12:57
Misteriithank you all you lovvvvvely peeps!!12:57
LazyAngelfluxt: i'll try to extract the two menu.lst and the fdisk output and show it to you. i think that will be easier12:57
GnarusLeothanks Seveas, e2label worked out allright12:57
LondonGuyHi Fluzt12:57
Misteriiit's working now12:57
LondonGuyFluxt12:57
teroedniGreetings to all12:58
fluxtLazyAngel: did the partition layout change on your drive?12:58
SeveasGnarusLeo, please do me a favor and give me the command you used 12:58
teroednii see there are some new ones i havent seen before:D12:58
ben_underscoreshukhrat, no it is with this group http://www.itshare.org.au/ and the laptops would cost $1012:58
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GnarusLeoSeveas, e2label /dev/sda "new name"12:58
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GnarusLeosdaX that is :P12:58
Misteriiit would have probably worked sooner, if I had noticed the "session" button on lower-right corner of the login screen xDDD12:58
Seveashaha ok12:58
markoam is there possible to do virtual private server on ubuntu, because i need to run one application which is possible to run only on red hat12:58
MisteriiEven google can't save you from yourself, right?12:58
LazyAngelfluxt: when i installed dapper i created hda2, but hda1 is unchanged (which is the boot for breezy)12:59
LondonGuyI am unable to play any audio or video files, can anyone help me out with that?12:59
ben_underscoreshukhrat, the laptops are donated from corporations and refurbished with ubuntu and then distributed for a small amount of money12:59
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kronozmarco: vmware, xen, qemu12:59
mjrmarko, it's not supported as such, I think, but it's certainly possible. I recommend looking at xen.12:59
LondonGuyI am new to Linux01:00
kronozLondonGuy: run alsaconf as root01:00
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GnarusLeoSeveas, or maybe it didnt ... i used it, remounted the drives, but gnome still refers to them as "60gb Volume" etc ... :(01:00
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fluxtLazyAngel: i see, you wouldn't think you'd have a problem hey01:00
LondonGuywhat does that mean kronoz? :D I am n00b with linux. :)01:00
SeveasGnarusLeo, ah - you mount them via /etc/fstab?01:00
fluxtLazyAngel: pastebin the menu.lst01:00
gnomefreakubotu tell LondonGuy about restricted01:00
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fluxt!tell LondonGuy about tabcompletion01:01
GnarusLeoSeveas, not really ... I just use the default ubuntu thingy .. (system-admin-disks)01:01
SeveasGnarusLeo, same difference01:01
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GnarusLeoand usually ubuntu just mount them themselves01:01
efuzzyonehello01:01
GnarusLeoSeveas, ok, so I can find it in fstab? The labels I mean?01:01
shukhratden_underscore: can i buy one laptop? PLEASE01:01
kronozer you in gnome? open the terminal, type 'su' enter your root password then type alsaconf and follow that01:01
SeveasGnarusLeo, it's pmount (responsible for removable drives) that uses the labels01:01
fluxtSeveas: who wrote the bot?01:01
kronozgnome:gnome-terminal kde:konsole01:01
efuzzyonei am trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for 64-bit PC on an AMD-64 machine.01:02
Seveasif you put your drives in /etc/fstab - pmount will refuse to work on them and calls regular mount01:02
Seveasfluxt, which one?01:02
LondonGuyhow do I login as root?01:02
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ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.01:02
Seveas!tell LondonGuy about root01:02
gnomefreakLondonGuy: assuming you can hear sounds ok just cant play them from files read the restricted site ubotu sent you01:02
GnarusLeoSeveas, but thats not nescesery, couse pmount is doing its job ..01:02
kronozLondonGuy: type 'su'01:02
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Seveasfluxt, apt-cache show blootbot01:02
feestbijtje!logitech quick cam01:02
ubotufeestbijtje: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:02
kronozand it will ask for a password01:02
LondonGuysu01:02
kronozin terminal01:02
efuzzyoneWhile installing the base system, I get the error "unable to install initrd-tools".01:02
GnarusLeoSeveas, just want to change the labels :P01:02
fluxtthanks Seveas01:02
SeveasGnarusLeo, dunno what gnome uses in this case, sorry01:03
efuzzyonewhats the probable cause, and how do I workaround it?01:03
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BlueEagleefuzzyone: Did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso image and the CD?01:03
GnarusLeoSeveas, ok, thanks for all your help anyways :)01:03
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fluxtSeveas: not in my cache01:03
efuzzyonei got burned ubuntu cds by mail order01:03
gnomefreaksu is _not_ recommended please use sudo or sudo -i01:03
bickyhello, the boot-up of ubuntu is very unstable, and last filesystem it gave the mesage "3,3% non-contiguous". Can this have something to do with this ?01:03
shukhratden_underscore: ?01:03
shukhratden_underscore: can i buy one laptop?01:04
bicky*filesystem check01:04
kronozno problem with su if you have a brain01:04
efuzzyoneBlueEagle: i got burned ubuntu cds by mail order01:04
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shukhratden_underscore: ?01:04
BlueEagleefuzzyone: Then I recomend you check the md5sum of the cd against the md5sum posted for that image on your favorite mirror.01:04
LadyNikonhmm..01:04
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GnarusLeoAnyone know how I can change the label of a mounted external firewall drive?01:05
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ompaul!tell efuzzyone about bootoptions01:05
Whatsisnameyou mean firewire?01:05
GnarusLeoSeveas, it was called "BACKUP" when I used it with windows .. and so linux mounted it as "BACKUP" as well the first time01:05
GnarusLeoWhatsisname, of course :)01:05
efuzzyoneBlueEagle:  the cds were officially mailed to me by Ubuntu01:05
BlueEaglehttp://mirror.trivini.no/ubuntu-iso/5.10/MD5SUMS01:05
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efuzzyoneand i have tried multiple cds with the same error01:06
BlueEagleefuzzyone: They may still be corrupted.01:06
ompaulefuzzyone, and wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge01:06
BlueEagleefuzzyone: You might want to clean your CD-ROM drive then. :)01:06
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ompaulefuzzyone, check out the msg from ubotu if your hardware is funny it can help01:07
fluxtSeveas: yeah, the only bot in my cache is gnobots2 ;)01:07
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Phazemanhi. this is the first time im running the live dvd... always installed from install cd... but i know there is an option to install from the live dvd... how do i do that ?01:08
GnarusLeoSeveas, mtools was much easier for ubuntu apperantly01:08
Phazemanit's the latest live dvd of flight 501:09
gnomefreakPhazeman: 5.10 cant install from live cd01:09
gnomefreakPhazeman: ahhh01:09
Phazemangnomefreak: live/install dvd01:09
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Phazemani can't find the way to install from the dvd :( been waiting for the whole night for it to download :(01:09
gnomefreakPhazeman: only dapper has that option and im not sure if its in it yet01:09
Phazemanit is dapper flight 501:09
Phazemanthe latest01:10
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Phazemandang... dont tell me that i have to download another CD instead of the dvd01:10
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gnomefreakPhazeman: when you run the livecd/dvd does it give you option on desktop or in menu to install it?01:11
Phazemanno menu01:11
fluxtPhazeman: enabled/adjusted boot from cd priority in the bios?01:11
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Phazemanfluxt: what do you mean ?01:11
efuzzyoneis there any alternate installation which I can try, which doesn't installs this package?01:12
fluxtoh, nevermind01:12
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fluxtgnomefreak's already there01:12
Phazemanfluxt: it boots from the dvd all right01:12
Phazemanahh01:12
gnomefreakPhazeman: what do you mean no menu?01:12
gnomefreakPhazeman: no menu at all or no menu choice for install?01:12
Phazemanno menu at all01:12
Phazemanit waits for a boot command01:13
Phazemanthen you can press F1 for help or enter for boot01:13
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fluxtit hints at a few doesn't it?01:13
cavediverhi.01:13
gnomefreakPhazeman: you dont get the desktop at all?01:13
Phazemanfluxt: i didn't see anything about install there01:13
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cavediverIs it possible to install Ubuntu to an USB stick ?01:13
Phazemani do have a desktop and i'm in it right now01:13
woldanybody here with an asus wl138g and dapper????01:13
Phazemantalking to wyou with konversation from the live desktop01:13
fluxtdoes a livecd have install?01:14
las_3_gatas24hola01:14
Phazemanbut i thought there is some kind of installer in the live cd01:14
fluxtor dvd as the case may be01:14
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fluxt?01:14
cavediverThe breezy live has no installer I think01:14
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Phazemancavediver: dapper flight 501:14
las_3_gatas24quien eres01:14
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cavediverPhazeman: Dunnu about that one01:14
las_3_gatas24you de venezuela01:15
gnomefreak!es01:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:15
redguy|work!dappe01:15
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy|work01:15
redguy|work!dapper01:15
gnomefreakPhazeman: dapper is still in testing stages01:15
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion01:15
las_3_gatas24what01:16
Phazemangnomefreak: i know01:16
gnomefreaklas_3_gatas24: /j #ubuntu-es01:16
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MatyasZAHi there01:16
Phazemangnomefreak: i prefer it on breezy for nowe01:16
Phazemannow*01:16
gnomefreakPhazeman: the live installer is buggy still but has been put in01:16
woldanybody here with an asus wl138g and dapper????01:16
Phazemangnomefreak: but where is it ? how do i start it ?01:16
gnomefreakPhazeman: lets go over to #ubuntu+1 please01:17
Phazemanno probs01:17
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MatyasZACan anyone please help me my Email server is giving me this error01:17
MatyasZA chdir /var/spool/mail/virtual//judit/: No such file or directory01:17
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MatyasZABut I added the user into mysql database01:17
MatyasZAand it should be creating the judit folder for the email01:18
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BlueEaglematyasza: check the config for the line /var/spool/mail/virtual/ and change it to /var/spool/mail/virtual01:18
las_3_gatas24chek01:18
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MatyasZAOk lemme check01:18
las_3_gatas24ok01:18
las_3_gatas24yo soy espaola01:19
las_3_gatas24y you01:19
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redguy|work!tell las_3_gatas24 about es01:20
redguy|worklas_3_gatas24: speak english in here please01:21
LazyAngelfluxt:  http://pastebin.bafserv.com/css/paste01:21
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LazyAngelfluxt: sorry:) http://pastebin.bafserv.com/317201:21
MatyasZA<BlueEagle>: im in /etc/postfix/mail.cf inside its says: virtual_mailbox_base = /var/spool/mail/virtual01:21
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las_3_gatas24what01:22
BlueEaglematyasza: Well then there's another reason for it adding // between that base and the username01:22
BlueEaglematyasza: // isn't a good thing in a path.01:22
ubuntu_kipif i dont configure the network on install01:22
ubuntu_kipcan i configure it later01:22
ubuntu_kip!network01:22
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.01:22
fluxtLazyAngel: did you move the position of the windows partition?01:22
las_3_gatas24you espaol01:22
MatyasZAwhat would be better?01:23
ubuntu_kip!unbuntu-es01:23
ubotuubuntu_kip: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:23
ubuntu_kip#ubuntu-es01:23
LazyAngelfluxt: i didn't move it, but i removed two other partitions in between got get some space for the dapper partition. So win xp partition should be unchanged.01:23
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LazyAngelfluxt: in the dapper's menu.lst i have tried to change where to boot from to find it01:24
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MatyasZAim a bit confused sorry01:24
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SPCPThi ppl01:24
fluxtLazyAngel: well the breezy part looks all good.. :/01:25
ubuntu_kip!network config01:25
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_kip01:25
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ubuntu_kip....01:25
SPCPTcan anyone help me to get the cisco aironet 350 wireless card working in breezy ?01:25
bigfoot_yetihi all01:25
MatyasZA<BlueEagle>: virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_mailbox.cf01:25
LazyAngelfluxt: that was what i thought as well :/ isn't there a grub-install command i could use?01:25
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visik7software updates of eclipse doesn't work01:26
visik7what's wrong ?01:26
fluxtLazyAngel: update-grub is how to automatically update grub but i'm not sure how it handles multiple installs01:26
LazyAngelfluxt: i'll backup the menu.lst and see how it goes01:26
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fluxtLazyAngel: and i'm right in saying breeze can be mounted as /media/hda1 ?01:27
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fluxtLazyAngel: good idea, although it changes only the section it'll say it changes01:27
GnarusLeo!backup01:28
ubotuFor information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131101:28
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LazyAngelfluxt: yes, i have mounted the breezy boot whitout problem. that's where i got the breezy menu.lst from01:28
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robzonhey guys01:28
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fluxtLazyAngel: yeah as /media/hda1 i think you said?01:28
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BlueEaglematyasza: I just spotted the // in the path and that really looks like a configuration error. However I've never used the package and all I really can do is to refer you to the manual of the package in question.01:28
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robzondoes anyone have experience with setting up LTSP on Ubuntu on networks with at least 10 thin clients?01:29
LazyAngelfluxt: yes01:29
MatyasZAthank you :)01:29
robzonwell, in fact any number od thin clients will do..01:29
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fluxtLazyAngel: i find the root=/dev/md1 etc strange.. on mine it's root=/dev/hda6 or 1 or whatever01:30
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LazyAngelfluxt: it is sata disk's with software raid 5.01:30
fluxtLazyAngel: i'd try changing for breezy only: root=/dev/hda101:31
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fluxti'd try?01:31
LazyAngelfluxt: ahh! that might be a good idea :)01:31
fluxtLazyAngel: sounds reasonable :)01:31
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GnarusLeohm .. how safe is it to backup EVERYTHING on a single tar balL?01:32
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fluxtLazyAngel: oh raid.. ? goodluck01:33
LazyAngelthe hda isn't in raid :)01:33
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fluxti'm confident (just don't change dapper ;)01:33
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katarothey everyone could use some help i got the internet but i still want my wireless i got ndisgtk and instelled my driver but when i go to configure it is not there01:33
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mzvhallo zusammen01:34
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mikado81hey...what language is this chat room?01:35
gnomefreakmikado81: english01:35
mikado81ok01:35
mikado81thanx01:35
chemajamikado81: but there's perl bindings if you need them01:35
mzvhello01:35
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mzvwhat's up01:35
mikado81no it's fine01:35
chemajahehehe01:35
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LazyAngelfluxt: that didn't help01:37
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LazyAngelfluxt: i'll try to reinstall grub01:37
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GnarusLeofluxt, gnomefreak  ... do you have any experience/input on how safe it is to backup every file from "/" to ONE tarball, and hide this on a external disk?01:37
fluxti'm at a loss, you might want to reask the chan and include your pastebin link01:38
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GnarusLeosounds dangerous :)01:38
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fluxtGnarusLeo: not really, but you'd need to mount the partition read-only01:39
fluxtapart from that i'd find myself in man tar ;)01:39
katarotdo i need to do anything else before my wireless will work01:39
GnarusLeofluxt, hehe .. I found a recipie01:40
GnarusLeo!backuo01:40
ubotuGnarusLeo: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:40
GnarusLeo!backup01:40
ubotuFor information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131101:40
GnarusLeobut not sure how safe it is ..01:40
zenitIs it possible to install Open Office 2.0.x in ubuntu breezy, amd64? The 1.9.129 version is quite buggy. I read about adding http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2-amd64/ to sources.list, but there aren't any amd64 packages there.01:40
IdleOne!tell katarot about wireless01:40
caglar_what do the new packages mean if the version stays the same but the *ubuntuX.deb number changes?01:40
caglar_X=a number01:41
Seveascaglar_, that ubuntuX is part of the version number01:41
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IdleOnecaglar_> could be a bug fix or code cleanup01:41
fluxtGnarusLeo: the guide looks good01:41
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IdleOnecaglar_>  or just an updated/new version like Seveas  said01:42
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sobersabrehi. is there a specific chan for ubuntu-ppc01:42
sobersabre ?01:42
GnarusLeofluxt, but it says that I shoudnt have anything mounted .. I would like to write the tarball to an external drive directly ... but --exclude="/media/<external>" would make sure not to compress the drive, right?01:42
caglar_why does the version number change then?01:42
fluxt!ppc01:42
ubotuI guess ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.01:42
LazyAngelHi! I installed dapper on another partition, and now it hijacked my grub. So now i can't boot into breezy anymore :( I have tried to change the boot flag back to the breezy /boot partition, but that didn't help. Still dapper's grub menu. And if i add breezy to dappher's menu.lst i just gets errors (file not found) :( http://pastebin.bafserv.com/317201:42
caglar_doesnt01:42
caglar_I mean01:42
fluxtseems not sobersabre01:42
caglar_why dont they release a new version wit a new version number but *ubuntuX?01:42
IdleOnecaglar_> the ubuntuX part is part of the version number01:43
caglar_hm01:43
caglar_ok..01:43
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javiolotheres a #ubuntu-ppc but always is empty01:43
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Seveascaglar_, the version number is (upstream version)-(debian revision)ubuntu(ubuntu revision)01:43
fluxtGnarusLeo: sounds good01:43
IdleOnecaglar_>  sum packages ( I think all ) are ubuntu specific01:43
javiolosobersabre theres a #ubuntu-ppc but always is empty01:43
GnarusLeothanks again fluxt  .. Ill try that01:43
BlippeBUG: tftpd-hpa installs with root access instead of nobody (as default)01:44
caglar_where can I get information about what exactly changed?01:44
fluxtGnarusLeo: it's all you01:44
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IdleOnepackages.ubuntu.com01:44
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G0SUBSeveas: ping01:44
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G0SUBSeveas: how can I get Ubugtu join our channel?01:44
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GnarusLeofluxt, well, this time it was true :) Politeness01:45
SeveasG0SUB, no idea ;)01:45
G0SUBSeveas: lol01:45
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javiolosobersabre what do you want to know ?01:45
G0SUBSeveas: I know you are his master ...01:45
SeveasG0SUB, hint: look at your channel ;)01:46
sobersabrejaviolo i want to know if it is possible to boot say, dapper on an OF machine with ppc6401:46
G0SUBhaha01:46
fluxtLazyAngel: also, you could try asking in the dapper chan #ubuntu+101:46
sobersabreI am talking about ibm's js20 blades.01:46
ubuntu_kipi got a prob01:46
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IdleOnesobersabre>  you could try01:47
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javiolosobersabre sorry I dont have any ppc64, I have ubuntu in a macmini01:47
javiolosobersabre try #mac01:47
sobersabrejaviolo isn't macmini intel duo based ?01:47
ubuntu_kipi have installed ubuntu on a g301:47
sobersabreUbugtu g3 is still ppc, not ppc6401:47
javiolosobersabre yes, but mine its the old macmini01:47
ubuntu_kipand it says cant fin /video/01:47
javiolosobersabre try #mac they support varios OS01:48
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sobersabreubuntu_kip  what does lspci say about  your vga controller ?01:48
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eckz^!mountwindows01:48
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:48
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fiveironis anyone else getting a ridiculous amount of md5sum mismatches when trying to install packakges using apt-get?01:49
javiolosobersabre as far as I know the only linux that has been runned over ppc 64 its gentoo01:50
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sobersabrejaviolo oh, c'mon. at least you can do some homework besides 1-time google search.01:50
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ubuntu_kipsober01:50
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sobersabreRHEL3 up, SLES8 up01:50
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LazyAngelfluxt: thanks01:51
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vanscorpionhello01:51
sobersabreand of course gentoo.01:51
ubuntu_kipi have a list that it cant find01:51
javiolosobersabre I knew that before01:51
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jollyjumperI have just installed ubuntu, but on the first boot, it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystem". It seems to be a problem with the integrated soundcard using snd-hda-intel. I cant disable the soundcard in bios.. Can someone plz help?01:51
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sobersabrejollyjumper you can boot the install CD via the "rescue" mode.01:52
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jollyjumperok, ill try that01:52
chuckypjollyjumper, or boot in single user mode from grub?01:52
sobersabreand then mount folder under which /etc resides. ( I guess it is / )01:52
fiveironis there a package out there with codecs?  i've got a default install of dapper and i can't play mp3s01:52
fluxtLazyAngel: no problem, sorry i couldn't fix it01:52
sobersabrefiveiron this is not a dapper channel.01:52
chuckyp!tell fiveiron about restricted01:52
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hq01007_hi guys01:53
no_gatez_fangood morning01:53
IdleOnemorning01:53
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hq01007_Is there a tool to configure several network environment (home, university, wifi) ?01:54
eckz^Can some1 help me to mount my disks ? (NTFS)01:54
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thegladiatorgood evening01:54
_jasonubotu: tell eckz^ about ntfs01:54
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wuzzyhi! what program is good for cd burning? especially audio cds?01:54
GnarusLeo!ntfs01:54
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:54
IdleOnewuzzy> gnomebaker k3b serpentine cdrecord01:55
thegladiatoreckz^, you cant  write to ntfs as of now , reading is possible though01:55
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wuzzyIdleOne: thanks!01:55
no_gatez_fanjust am seting up 5.1 for the first time, I am very pleased01:55
thegladiator!burner01:55
ubotuthegladiator: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:55
jollyjumpersame problem when I boot in single mode... hotplug subsystem01:55
no_gatez_fanlooking around but might need to ask a few questions later01:56
thegladiatorno_gatez_fan, 5.1001:56
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no_gatez_fan5.10 yes01:56
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GnarusLeothegladiator, not true ... you can write to it but its experimental ...01:56
IdleOneno_gatez_fan>  welcome to ubuntu01:56
thegladiator10 stands for the month01:56
G0SUBcafuego: ping01:56
no_gatez_fangot ya01:56
thegladiatorYeah I meant it is not safe01:56
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GnarusLeothegladiator, yup ... I tried it once for testing and the filesystem errored in less then a month :P01:57
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no_gatez_fanafter a boot up, I need to run as sudo xvidtune, is there any way to keep the changes, every boot I have to adjust X01:58
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GnarusLeono_gatez_fan, write your settings to you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file01:58
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no_gatez_fanok01:58
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rnd_nullis dapper better and breezy?01:59
ompaul!dapper01:59
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion01:59
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ompaulrnd_null, so it is not released yet, it will be soon, you can take a test run but the doors might fall off on you :)02:00
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rnd_nulli'm very new to linux, i've been using 5.10 for a couple of days now, and am getting frustrated...02:01
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IdleOne!tell ubuntu_kip about mouse02:01
eckz^new to linux but, where is linux winamp (xmms?) in ubuntu...do i need to download it ?02:01
ompaulrnd_null, okay what have you done and what have you not done? we can get yo uthre02:01
IdleOnernd_null>  whats up?02:01
_jasonrnd_null: what is frustrating you?02:01
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IdleOneeckz^>  yes02:01
ubuntu_kipwhy my cursor beacomes black02:01
GnarusLeoeckz^, "sudo apt-get install xmms"02:01
IdleOne!tell eckz^ about repos02:01
eckz^oki thx02:01
ubuntu_kipor inversed02:02
IdleOne!tell eckz^ about restrictedformats02:02
ubuntu_kiporb just f****02:02
GnarusLeo!tell eckz^ about everything02:02
GnarusLeo:)02:02
eckz^:p02:02
ompaulUbugtu, language - don't even use it with *s thanks02:02
Healoteckz^, www.xmms.org or "apt-get install xmms" (enable universe section first)02:02
ompaulubuntu_kip, language - don't even use it with *s thanks02:02
wuzzyhow do i install a plugin to handle mp3s in gnomebaker?02:03
ubuntu_kipwhy my cursor is messed up02:03
rnd_nullok, first, i'm having trouble with video and video drivers, second, i having trouble with sound other than mp3's and system sounds, third, i cant get gnome to see my plam pc02:03
GnarusLeoeckz^, but I strongly recamend you to take a look at "amaroK" instead ... its great02:03
rnd_nullother than that, i'm good02:03
eckz^ok how do i get that ?02:03
GnarusLeo!tell rnd_null about ask02:03
eckz^GnarusLeo,02:03
ompaulrnd_null, what kind of video card have you got02:03
GnarusLeoeckz^, its the same ... "sudo apt-get install amarok"02:04
jollyjumperI have just installed ubuntu, but on the first boot, it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystem". It seems to be a problem with the integrated soundcard using snd-hda-intel. I cant disable the soundcard in bios.. I now tried to boot in single user mode, but I still get the same error...02:04
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rnd_nullnvidia 6600 gt (128m)02:04
IdleOneeckz^>  enable universe and multiverse first02:04
Healotmodel and manufacturer specific...02:04
rnd_nullgnarusleo, thx02:04
GnarusLeojollyjumper, you should start in recovery mode and disable the sound card service02:04
GnarusLeojollyjumper, if it even boot in rec-mode?02:05
ompauljollyjumper, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge - the second one seems to work but is a much cruder fix02:05
wuzzygnomebaker says: "The plugin to handle a file of type audio/mpeg is not installed" when i try to add an mp3 to an audiocd, what should i do????02:05
GnarusLeo!tell rnd_null about nvidia02:05
eckz^IdleOne,  ok but xmms seemd to work, do i still need to enable it ?02:05
ompaul!tell rnd_null about nvidia02:05
jollyjumpertnx... Ill have a look at it02:05
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IdleOneeckz^>  probably going to need to do it for others apps :)02:06
rnd_nullompaul, i spent a bit yesterday telling someone in here about my problems only to have them tell me that they didn't know because they are new too02:06
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eckz^IdleOne,  ok can you tell me how then plz ?02:06
rnd_nullgnarusleo: stop doing that please02:06
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ompaulrnd_null, well first off I had the bot tell you about nvidia cards02:06
theD3viLhowto enable 3d rendering with Mach64? It is old ati card but have 3d support!02:06
fluxt!tell wuzzy about codecs02:06
administratorhi to all02:06
IdleOnernd_null>  ompaul  can probably help you02:06
Healottell Mr. Baker to install all the appropriate plugin for you, wuzzy :)02:06
IdleOne!tell eckz^ about repos02:06
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IdleOneeckz^> look for msg from ubotu  it will have a link for you02:06
GnarusLeornd_null, its how you get info ... the ubuntu howtos are much more informing and detailed then anything you get in here ..02:06
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rnd_nullompaul, right, everybody does that, and you know what, it hasn't helped yet, after i follow the directions on that, my pc wont even boot02:07
administrator\nick mon02:07
rnd_nulli end up having to clear my bios to get video back02:07
rnd_nullompaul,  ^02:07
ompaulrnd_null, right I read that02:07
administratorim a new bie02:07
GnarusLeoadministrator, try /nick man :)02:07
IdleOneadministrator> /nick yournickhere02:07
Healotbut you're an administrator ?02:08
ompaulHealot, I would think it but never say it02:08
wuzzy!easysource02:08
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:08
IdleOneHealot>  he could of set his user as ImASuperLeetRoot lol02:08
ompaulrnd_null, do you mean it goes to a black screen or just freezes while booting02:08
Healotnewbie is more appropriate :)02:08
rnd_nullompaul, the part that frustrates me is that when i run the kanotix live cd, all my stuff works fine....(more)02:08
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munti78Is there a program to use for searching for text within multiple files?02:09
Healotyay02:09
rnd_nullompaul, ok, when i boot, there is no video output from my card and the monitor goes to power save mode.  after i clear the bios all is good.02:09
sobersabremunti78 find02:09
aleitneris there a way to fix system-wide what network card will become eth1 and which one eth0?02:09
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jolly_I have problems getting my soundcard working in ubuntu| everyting looks fine i can see the volume icon02:09
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munti78soversabre: thanks... I'll look into that02:09
jolly_and i dont have mute on02:09
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rnd_nullompaul, that is only after i try to use the nvidia driver how to from wiki02:09
sobersabreok... bye all.02:09
Healotrnd_null, try the expert install...02:10
GnarusLeojolly_, do you get any errors? Or you dont have sound at all?02:10
rnd_nullompaul, how would that help?02:10
Healotaleitner, use "ifrename"02:10
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ompaulrnd_null, did you notice that there is more than one nvida driver there,02:10
rnd_nullompaul, hang on....brb....i'll check02:10
GnarusLeoAnyone know how I can echo the system log (permanently) to tty12? I used to have it, but completely forgot howto02:10
aleitnerHealot: thanks!02:10
jolly_GnarusLeo No errors :/02:11
jolly_its just dont I dont have any sound at all02:11
Blippehow do i change the "prompt" in the terminal?02:11
GnarusLeojolly_, wich sound card do you have?02:11
aleitnerHealot: wasnt there a config file for that too somewhere? one that was prob. read by ifrename behind the scene on every boot automatically02:12
rnd_nullompaul, this is what everyone keeps telling me to do... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:12
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aleitnerHealot: nevermind, stupid me02:12
jolly_Sound chip:ADI IC CODEC, AD1986A02:12
ompaulBlippe, for your options on that type: info bash >> in there do this /prompt then just repeat the / and it will point to prompt a couple of times and you will find all the options you want for it02:12
Healotaleitner, run ifrename each boot-time?02:12
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Blippethanks ompaul02:13
GnarusLeofluxt, this sounds like your kind of question :) You know how I can echo the whole system log to tty12? Permantently? If ubuntu has a such log though ..02:13
Healotyou can edit the mapping manually... /etc/iftab02:13
jolly_Sound chip:ADI IC CODEC, AD1986A <-- that the only info i have02:13
ompaulrnd_null, correct, let me point you at the text that allows you to choose for your one02:13
fluxtGnarusLeo: it does?02:13
munti78sobersabre: as I understand, find can't search the text within the files?02:13
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GnarusLeofluxt, I realyl dont know ... Had a such feature long time ago, but cant remember howto ... "echo /var/sys/log : tty12" or sometig :P02:14
munti78Is there a program to use for searching for text within multiple files?02:14
fluxtGnarusLeo: do you mean cat /var/logs/somelog > /dev/tty12 && echo ???02:14
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jolly_GnarusLeo any tips? :)02:15
GnarusLeofluxt, that might work :)02:15
_jasonmunti78: grep -r02:15
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Healotcat file > /dev/ttyS1202:15
fluxtGnarusLeo: /var/log/ even02:15
GnarusLeosorry jolly_, its difficult for me to answer when you have no errors02:15
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jolly_yeah i see02:15
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GnarusLeofluxt, is it possible to set up a whole system log? Maybe its too much info :P02:15
no_gatez_fanI have used other distro's, basically you log in as sudo when on other distros you log in as su -?02:16
_jasonmunti78: or just grep works too I guess.  Like grep foo file1 file2, the -r is for recursive.  Depends on what you want02:16
GnarusLeofluxt, never mind .. you have a /var/log/syslog02:16
jolly_cat /dev/null > /dev/dsp  <-- when i get device or resource busy02:16
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IdleOneno_gatez_fan> thats right use sudo for all root tasks02:16
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fluxtHealot: what's the diff between /dev/tty12 and /dev/ttyS12 ?02:16
rnd_nullompaul, on step 11 it tells me to install the 386 module the same as the others...i cant because it's already installed....did i do something wrong there? i just picked 'reinstall'02:16
no_gatez_fankuel02:17
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fluxtGnarusLeo: ok :)02:17
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Healotsorry wrong device, /dev/tty1202:17
ompaulrnd_null, what is the this GT66000  is that a gforce (sorry but I don't know the cards but I do understand the problem)02:17
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HealotS12 stands for Serial no. 1202:17
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fluxtHealot: oooh, ok :)02:18
rnd_nullompaul, yes, that is a geforce, that is what i'm runnign02:18
rnd_nullompaul, running02:18
rnd_nullompaul, well 6600 gt rather02:18
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Healotif you like to flood your Serial device then do that :)02:19
fluxtthat's what i have rnd_null02:19
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rnd_nullfluxt, how did you get it to work?02:19
ompaulrnd_null, okay now ~I am confused, the question is, is that a gforce series card, if so which series (I just added a second part to the q :-))02:19
Healotrnd_null, checkout ubuntu hardware compatibility02:19
fluxt!nvidia02:19
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:19
Healotfind out does default ubuntu install support that card first...02:19
rnd_nullompaul, yes, it is a geforce series card02:20
rnd_nullompaul,  6600 series? i believe02:20
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fluxtHealot: unaccelerated, sure02:20
rnd_nullhealot, where?02:20
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fluxtrnd_null: visit the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:20
Healotrnd_null, google or ubuntulinux.org?02:21
rnd_nullfluxt, i tried that, it wont work right02:21
Healotchoose :)02:21
munti78_jason: thanks, it was very helpful!02:21
fluxtrnd_null: what was the problem?02:21
fluxtrnd_null: did you get to the stage of the nvidia installer?02:21
ompaulokay it seems to be one of the newer ones02:22
rnd_nullfluxt step 11 and 16 on the install guide02:22
fluxtrnd_null: i'll have a look at it02:22
Healotrnd_null, you might want to try PCLinux... this one is great for hardware detection02:22
katarotndisgtk  says  the hardware is present so why is this not working can i went to networks and there is no wlan002:22
HealotGT 66xx is pretty new02:22
ompaulrnd_null, I would suggest that the driver you needed is this one  nvidia-glx02:22
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rnd_nullhealot, *everything* works great with knoppix based stuff, but i can't find a knoppix based hdd installation02:23
jollyjumperok... I now installed as stated in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge , and I still get the hotplug problem...02:23
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Elektrochelovekmaybe there is any debs of gnome 2.14 ?02:23
rnd_nullompaul, that is the one i tried02:23
novemcan anyone help, im trying to get mp3 support for rythymbox, i installed all the codecs and gstreamer etc, rythymbox says playing for a moment then just stops?02:23
fluxtrnd_null: did the restricted modules install?02:23
Healotknoppix has the hdd install script, lookout for that02:23
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rnd_nullmmm...i think so....i followed the guide....02:24
_jasonnovem: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad in particular?02:24
jollyjumperhow do I boot in recovery mode?02:24
novemlemme check. (pretty sure i did)02:24
katarotlspci -v | less02:24
katarot when i tried this there were 3 drivers none said wireless02:24
Healotkatarot, please state you wifi card brand and model?02:24
_jasonjollyjumper: choose it from the grub menu02:24
ompaulrnd_null, which guide (there are some I would not trust02:24
feghello, is it normal that an expert mode breezy install asks for a root passwd?02:24
suse78hi did anybody have problems with mysql-server start on ubuntu ?02:24
rnd_nullthe same one you told me to follow02:24
_jasonfeg: yes, the bot will send you a link about fixing sudo02:24
fluxti'm kinda lost then at how it failed, do you have an error message rnd_null02:24
jollyjumperok... Same problem when I boot in recovery mode... have tried that...02:24
motini've got an urgent annoying problem with newly installed drapper drake...!   the mouse movement is damn slow, and is not affected by the mouse-settings? are there any commands you can recommend me to try?02:24
_jasonubotu: tell feg about expert02:24
rnd_nullfluxt, nope02:25
novemyes gstreamer0.8-mad is installed02:25
_jasonnovem: run gst-register-0.802:25
Healotfeg, ubuntu's installation doesn't request for root password02:25
fluxtrnd_null: then the problem is you have no accel?02:25
_jasonfeg: actually, I should ask first: is sudo working?02:25
feg_jason, no it is not02:25
rnd_nullfluxt, after the ctrl-alt-bkspc, ubuntu wont boot to gnome until i rebuild the xorg.conf02:25
Healotmotin, #ubuntu+1 for dapper's discussion02:25
feg_jason, working02:26
rnd_nullfluxt, right, no accel02:26
ompauljollyjumper, okay for now try wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and try the first couple of things there to help noacpi in particular02:26
motinaha02:26
_jasonfeg: ok, bot's instructions should take care of it02:26
motinthanks02:26
novem_jason: already ran that, ran it again, still having the same problem02:26
Healotbtw.. it is still under testing... motin02:26
fluxtrnd_null: well x would give you some errors then i suppose02:26
rnd_nullfluxt, which i'm pretty sure causes other accel dependant programs not to run02:26
_jasonnovem: does totem work?02:26
kataroton winxp it says it is a dell wireless mini-pci wlan card and it uses broadcom drivers bcm 4401-b002:26
wuzzyhi all! can i use the cipherfunk breezy repository on a dapper installation?02:26
motinso i recon02:26
motinbut i would like to test it with at least a working mouse...02:26
motinbye02:26
ompaulrnd_null, at that time do you choose the driver to be not nvidia but nvidia-glx ?02:26
Healotif any bugs you found report/checkout it at ubuntu's launchpad site... motin02:27
novemno totem does not work, same thing, says playing (but no audio) for a second, then stops (paused)02:27
fluxtrnd_null: i installed the drivers downloaded from nvidias website which is harder to do but might help you02:27
novemboth ryhtymbox & totem ARE reading the id3 info02:27
_jasonnovem: you've tried multiple mp3's I suppose?02:27
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rnd_nullfluxt, the drivers from the nvidia site wont work because it says they were done with a different compiler, otherwise i'd use those02:27
katarothealot: i used ndiswrapper and then ndisgtk and both times it said the hardware is present02:27
feg_jason, thx!02:27
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novemuhm. actually i havent, doh! but i know this mp3 is good. ill try another anyway02:28
fluxtrnd_null: just a warning, there's a lot to install to do it that way, some big packages02:28
fluxtrnd_null: the compiler issue is an easy fix02:28
rnd_nullfluxt, how do i do it?02:28
fluxtrnd_null: export CC=gcc-3.402:28
munti78_jason: do you know if it's possible to see the result including line number of matches in files?02:28
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novemtried a few other mp3s, same issue ;o(02:28
_jasonmunti78: grep -n I think, check man grep02:28
munti78_jason: Using grep that is.02:28
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fluxtrnd_null: you need sudo apt-get install build-essential02:29
munti78_jason: nice, thanks alot02:29
_jasonnovem: and this is on breezy?02:29
Healot99 percent is misinterpreted02:29
novemdapper02:29
_jason!dapper02:29
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion02:29
Healotnovem, #ubuntu+1 for dapper's discussion02:29
rnd_nullfluxt, what will that do?02:29
novemthanks.02:30
Healotif any bugs you found report/checkout it at ubuntu's launchpad site... novem02:30
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kataroti went on to device manager and i see BCM4401-B0 100 BASE-TX02:30
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aroticoz_how do I install .deb files?02:30
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void^katarot: note that it should say hardware present, driver present02:30
HealotBroadcom :)02:30
_jasonaroticoz_: what are you trying to install?02:30
kingspawnoh lord, i just had a four hour meeting. i believe my brain fell out.02:30
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IdleOnearoticoz_> dpkg -i file,deb02:30
caglaris there a way to control amarok with my palm device using vluetooth?02:30
katarotvoid: it does02:31
feg!expert02:31
IdleOnearoticoz_> dpkg -i file.deb02:31
ubotuNo working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin02:31
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Healotndiswrapper plus broadcom windows xp driver = broken...02:31
aroticoz_thanks02:31
fluxtrnd_null: build-essential will give you gcc-3.4 for a start, export CC=gcc-3.4 ..is used before you run the nvidia binary, you also need the kernel source i believe02:31
void^katarot: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:31
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eckz^how to get and install videolan on ubuntu ?02:31
void^well, broadcom is .. bleh.02:31
_jasonfluxt: I don't think build-essential includes gcc-3.4, that's a seperate package iirc02:31
jolly_apt-get install vlc02:31
jolly_:D02:31
kingspawneckz^, synaptic or apt-get02:31
gnomefreak_jason: it doesnt just 4.002:31
rnd_nullfluxt, is there a step by step procedure somewhere for that, i'm only on day 2 using linux02:32
rnd_nullfluxt, maybe day 302:32
fluxt_jason: i'm pretty sure it is..02:32
Healotgreat, rnd_null > /dev/null02:32
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kingspawnrnd_null, whatcha trying to do?02:32
IdleOne_jason>  build-essential installs the tools needed and for some reason also fixes the gcc3.4 erros you may get when compiling02:32
katarotvoid: this is what i got martin@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:32
katarotmartin@ubuntu:~$02:32
nobucalguien habla espaol?02:32
fluxtrnd_null: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source ..might help with the lite kern source02:32
gnomefreakfluxt: build-essential has gcc4.0 not 3.402:32
jollyjumperIS there any way to pass a variable during boot that disables the sound? still cant do my first boot over here02:32
void^katarot: so, anything new in ifconfig -a02:32
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gnomefreakIdleOne: it fixes them because it install gcc along with gcc 4.002:33
fluxtrnd_null: afaik, i'm it, perhaps google. i can take you through it02:33
Healot3.4 is a separated installation02:33
IdleOnegnomefreak>  there ya go thats it :)02:33
katarotvoid: sit0 is there02:33
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nobuchola hola!!!!!!!02:33
Healotkatarot, you;ve got ndiswrapper working... now ifconfig -a02:33
rnd_nullfluxt, that would be great02:33
fluxtok02:34
kingspawni thought build-essential installed the linker for you? gcc seems to be present before you install b-e02:34
Jhairnobuc: don't write in spanish here go to #ubuntu-es02:34
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ompaul!es02:34
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:34
void^katarot: check for suspicious messages in dmesg02:34
rnd_nullfluxt, do you use aim or yahoo messnegers?02:34
Healotkatarot, see any "wlan"?02:34
fluxtrnd_null: sudo apt-get install build-essential nvidia-kernel-source02:34
katarotno02:34
rnd_nullfluxt, that might be easier02:34
gnomefreakkingspawn: open synaptic and search for gcc02:34
ompaulrnd_null, for that on ubuntu - use - gaim02:34
nobuc0k02:34
eckz^apt-get install vlc doesnt seem to work02:34
fluxtrnd_null: icq02:34
katarotvoid: how do i check for messages02:34
void^katarot: type dmesg02:35
kingspawngnomefreak, you can just tell me :) im a work, which means winXP02:35
rnd_nullfluxt, hmm...i dont use icq, jsut aim and yahoo02:35
_jasoneckz^: if you enabled universe, put your errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:35
fluxtrnd_null: see pm02:35
gnomefreakkingspawn: gcc is not installed by default some gcc apps are but the package gcc is not02:35
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WebWizrsync -avz -e ssh bwadmin@ews1:/var/tftpboot /var/02:36
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kingspawngnomefreak, okay, i see. i tried to compile something on a fresh ubuntu-install, but gcc reported "cant build executable files" - which led me to believe that gcc was there, but not the linker02:36
WebWizdoes that command look ok?02:36
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Healoteckz^, here is my one liner "/etc/apt/sources.list"02:36
Healotdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse02:36
gnomefreaklol nickrud02:36
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xenoxaosOk, I remember under using zipslack a long time ago (when I had a zip drive), that it left the filesystem as a fat filesystem, yet could still keep the file permissions on the fat filesystem.  Does anyone know how to do that with a fat fs under ubuntu, I was wanting to use it on an external drive that would need to be r/w from a windows box but want to be able to assign permissions and such from under linux. anyone know how02:36
xenoxaos to do this?02:36
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fluxtrnd_null: you have a private message window02:36
_lucas Can you guys maybe check out my sources.list and tell me if it's good that way: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y4ju6X41.html02:36
xcelhey everyone! how do i acosiate avi,divx,dvd with VLC?02:37
everton137Hi, can someone help me in route ports one Ubuntu for me use my webcam? I can access my modem on IP 10.0.0.138, but I am not sure what I have to do.02:37
_lucasno need anymore02:37
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gnomefreakfor gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 you need to install gcc (build-essential) is the best way to do that. than install 3.4 ;)02:37
rnd_nullfluxt, i know, i'm talking to yo in it02:37
kingspawnxcel: right click the files and do something very similar to what one does in windows02:37
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xceloke02:37
katarotvoid & healot: there is thousands of messages but i found some with ndiswrapper02:37
gnomefreak_lucas: what seems wrong?02:37
_lucasnothing02:37
gnomefreak_lucas: ok than why are we looking at your list?02:38
_lucasit's just that I don't get the amarok 1.4 beta when I run a dist-upgrade02:38
everton137Does someone make webcam works with AMSN 0.95? I need some help.02:38
_lucasthat's why you are ;-)02:38
Healotkatarot, do this "dmesg | grep ndiswrapper"02:38
gnomefreak_lucas: i  dont see why it would install a beta02:38
Healotand paste the  output to !pastebin02:38
gnomefreakeverton137: as far as i know no not yet02:39
_lucasso deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main  does not include betas?02:39
jollyjumperin boot options I read you can send hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false... Can I use hw-detect/start_sound=false instead?02:39
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everton137gnomefreak, none has make it work? :O02:39
Healotlucas, nay02:39
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_lucasso then everything's fine?02:39
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wastrelbah02:39
thegladiatorgaim doesnt support that ?02:39
gnomefreak_lucas: im sorry it does include beta accourding to the parent directory but please hold for a sec02:40
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thegladiatoris there a better messenger client than gaim ?02:40
Healotdepends on how you define "fine", _lucas02:40
gnomefreaknone of them support webcam as of right now02:40
thegladiatoryaho's native ?02:40
GnarusLeothegladiator, im very pleased with kopete02:40
katarotok i see unknown symbol and stuff02:40
thegladiatorkopete allows "invisible log in" ?02:40
_lucasgnomefreak says that it would include betas. Then it's not fine because I don't get the beta02:40
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everton137thegladiator, I use gaim for all protocol, but I am trying AMSN for use webcam.02:41
GnarusLeothegladiator, dunno02:41
gnomefreak_lucas: are you on breezy?02:41
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_lucasyes I am02:41
gnomefreak_lucas: no breezy doesnt include the betas from my understanding02:41
thegladiatoryahoo messenger ?02:41
everton137thegladiator, I think gaim has invisible logging.02:41
_lucasSo my current sources list will get me the latest non-beta amaroK?02:41
thegladiatoreverton137, i dont think it has . could you temme how ?02:41
gnomefreak_lucas: thats what it looks like02:42
everton137ok, let me see02:42
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katarotguys i pasted what i got on #flood02:42
_lucasthen it's fine02:42
thegladiatoryep thanks02:42
gnomefreak_lucas: i dont use kde02:42
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IdleOnekatarot>  that doesnt help if we arent in there02:42
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IdleOnekatarot>  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for large amounts of text ( anything over 2 lines is a good idea )02:42
ompaulkatarot, you can't say that after the event it is gone ... use pate.ubuntu-nl.org02:42
everton137thegladiator, you wanna do it for yahoo, no?02:42
thegladiatoryes02:42
ompaulkatarot,  paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:42
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thegladiatoryahoo is all I use02:42
fluxtrnd_null: /join #fluxt02:43
katarotok02:43
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thegladiator!deb02:43
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)02:43
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everton137thegladiator, do this: tools -> away -> your yahoo account -> your state (wich includes invisible)02:43
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Healot!debra+ian02:44
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot02:44
thegladiatoreverton137, are you sure I can do that without first logging into yahoo ?02:44
thegladiatori think thats like setting status away after loggin in02:44
gnomefreak!debian02:44
katarothttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1038902:44
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:44
thegladiatori was thinking about invisible log in02:45
everton137thegladiator, ahhh, withou logging, I just thought you wanna invisible option02:45
katarotthats what i got02:45
everton137i dont know then02:45
katarothttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10389  does that look right02:45
thegladiatoryeah its unavailable02:45
everton137I think only after loggin02:46
everton137sorry02:46
GnarusLeodoes ubutu have a ftp-deamon? So I can log in with ftp with my shell user account?02:46
GnarusLeo!ftpd02:46
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GnarusLeo02:46
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thegladiatornp i am trying out yahoo messenger on linux as deb02:46
suse78GnarusLeo, shure use sftp :)02:46
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everton137thegladiator, try kopete, I think it can do it02:47
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jollyjumperHow do I disable hotplug completely?02:47
thegladiatoryep02:47
GnarusLeosuse78, thanks :) Is it a service?02:47
thegladiatorthank you02:47
suse78ist ssh ftp02:47
everton137I will open kopete for see this.02:47
GnarusLeokopete's really nice02:47
suse78when ssh is runing normaly sftp is also working02:47
suse78by default config fo shure02:47
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GnarusLeosuse78, ok, thanks alot02:47
everton137GnarusLeo, does it have support for webcam?02:48
suse78its much securer than normal ftp02:48
GnarusLeoeverton137, yes02:48
katarothow do i get it not to fail http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1038902:48
everton137GnarusLeo, do you know if you have to route ports for use webcam?02:48
_jasonhow would I go about restarting alsa?02:48
GnarusLeoeverton137, hm ... have rep's .. but it says sftp has no installation canditate02:48
GnarusLeoeverton137, sorry, hav'nt tried the feature yet02:48
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kingspawngnomefreak, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html has information about build-essential. it does not in any way contain gcc, it simply instructs the system which programs/packages are needed to compile, link, etc.02:49
everton137GnarusLeo, ok02:49
GnarusLeosuse78, oh .. its installed .. how do I enable it? :P I tried conencting now, and it says "refused"02:49
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C-O-L-Tubuntu flight 5 is stable????????/02:50
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: what do you think?02:50
thegladiatorno02:50
MistaEDC-O-L-T: until something goes wrong ;)02:50
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thegladiatoronly final release are called stable :-)02:51
thegladiatorrest comes with statutory warning02:51
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: but what is your opinion?02:51
Frogzoothegladiator: well that's usually the way betas work :D02:51
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: have you experienced something02:51
thegladiatoryes :)02:51
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: yes for bugs or for what?02:51
thegladiatori have not tried 5 but people opine it is better02:51
nickrudkingspawn: if you do apt-cache depends build-essential, you'll see that it depends gcc4, therefor it 'metacontains' :)02:52
GnarusLeodoes ubutu have a ftp-deamon? So I can log in with ftp with my shell user account? heard sftp would do it, but dont know how it works02:52
kingspawnnickrud, were we talking about dependencies? haha, if so, then I apologize02:52
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thegladiatorC-O-L-T, are you a home user with sky above and ground below ?02:53
kingspawnnickrud, i thought he said that build-essential had gcc in it02:53
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thegladiatornothing much to lose if you botch up ur system , then givge a try :)02:53
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: I am just a home user, net, music, video, chat and that is all02:53
Frogzoowhy won't irssi do vertical split windows?02:53
thegladiatorthen sure u acn give a try its not bad02:53
kingspawngnomefreak, prolly just me that misunderstood. sorry about that. a good page to read through anyhow.02:53
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: can I update my system????????02:54
gnomefreakkingspawn: i am reading it02:54
thegladiatordont think it works that way02:54
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: I have to download and format my hard drive ?02:54
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thegladiatorthere is a live cd02:54
_jasonFrogzoo: don't believe that is coded in02:55
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thegladiatoryou can test it and if you feel its good enuf install02:55
thegladiatoryou can keep it along with breezy02:55
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: but I would like to install to hard drive02:55
Frogzooanyone suggest an irc client that can vertically split the window? would be nice on my 1280x800 lappie...02:55
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zOapwhere can i download 6.04?02:55
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thegladiatortest the cd first then install02:55
nickrudthose policy documents are very interesting, but sometimes they assume too much knowledge02:55
thegladiatorzOap, only test available02:55
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: ok02:55
thegladiator6.04 is not yet out02:55
_jasonFrogzoo: by vertical split you mean one on the left and another on the right correct?02:55
zOapok, thanks02:55
Frogzoo_jason: yes indeedy02:56
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moultyHELLO!02:56
thegladiatorbbl02:56
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: where to download dapper flight 5?02:56
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moulty1st time linux user, just got it online... :D02:56
thegladiator!flight02:56
ubotuhmm... flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing02:56
kingspawnC-O-L-T, also, see topc.02:57
Frogzoomoulty: congrats & welcome02:57
kingspawnwith topc i am obviously referring to topic.. ;)02:57
thegladiatormoulty, so today is the day u got liberty02:57
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: there will be  aflight 6 or this is the last one?02:57
moultyFrogzoo: ta, *jumps around the room*02:57
thegladiatoru could say :)02:57
moultywoohooo02:57
thegladiatorunsure flight 6 cud also be there02:57
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, cant discuss it here , considered off topic02:58
moultyaye, i've been ubitten.02:58
theskunkhey guys, i had to re-install my windows partition, and obviously it has over-ridden the grub bootloader, how do i re-install the grub boot loaded?02:58
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theskunkanybody know where a how-to is on that?02:58
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: just answer me02:58
Frogzoo!tell theskunk about grub02:58
C-O-L-Tyes or no02:58
C-O-L-T?02:58
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thegladiatoridk02:59
gnomefreakno02:59
gnomefreakno likely02:59
moultyAnyone here use a Terratech DMX6-Fire on Ubuntu?02:59
gnomefreaknot*02:59
theskunksweet, thanks02:59
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moultycrap... just thought, do i need a firewall with Ubuntu?03:00
C-O-L-TFlight 5 includes gnome 2.14?03:00
nickrudtheskunk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:00
IceBiTehello, i have a problem. i have updated from breezy to dapper using aptitude upgrade, and now the graphical mode dont work because it has 2 error: failed to load module "kbd" and failed to load module "mouse".03:00
moultyor is it safe enough as is?03:00
Frogzoomoulty: just install firestarter03:00
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nickrudIceBiTe: did you do aptitude dist-upgrade ?03:01
gnomefreakcan we please bring all dapper related topics to #ubuntu+103:01
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moultywill do, how? is it in the barzzey dvd?03:01
nickrudforgot where I was, sorry GnarusLeo03:01
nickrudgnomefreak: ^^03:01
Frogzoomoulty: sudo apt-get install firestarter03:01
moultyrgr, ta03:01
gnomefreaki wasnt directing that to you nickrud lol03:02
nickrudheh, the shoe fit :)03:02
IceBiTesudo aptitude upgrade03:02
C-O-L-Thttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.iso03:02
C-O-L-Tsorry03:02
moultybrb03:02
kingspawnthe barzzey dvd.. excellent!03:02
nickrudIceBiTe: dist-upgrade is needed (my last dapper comment)03:02
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moulty;D03:02
moultytoo happy to bother to typer proper03:02
kingspawn:)03:03
champyhola03:03
kingspawn#ubuntu-es03:03
gnomefreak!upgrade03:03
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.03:03
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gnomefreak^^ IceBiTe03:03
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jortanybody know how to install .deb file on ubuntu?03:04
_jason!deb03:04
gnomefreak!deb03:04
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)03:04
jortthx, but where can i find apt?03:05
gnomefreak!apt03:05
ubotuapt is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto03:05
_jasonubotu: tell jort about synaptic03:05
moultyi've another pc, an AMD64 3000, i have the "barzzey" dvd and "dapper" 2.06 flight cd.... should I install 5 from dvd, then install the AMD64 Dapper??03:05
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_jasonjort: synaptic is a front-end for apt03:05
C-O-L-T-AWAY!deb03:05
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)03:05
jollyjumperI think I have tried everything in getting ubuntu up and going in my lappy... the integrated soundcard is still the problem, system hangs on first boot during hotplug. snd_hda_intel... cant figure this out... anyone go any tips?03:05
moulty6.04*03:05
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netpythonhello all03:06
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Frogzoojort: if you don't have apt, you don't have ubuntu installed....03:06
kingspawnmoulty, you have me laughing here :)03:06
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kingspawnim sitting in my office, saying "barzzey" out loud and snickering03:06
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moultylol03:06
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netpythonIs there a quick n dirty way of adding own pdf's to doc-central?03:07
Frogzoomoulty: there's 2 reasons not to install the A64 dapper...03:07
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nickrudjollyjumper: add a line snd_hda_intel to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:07
gnomefreakcan use less packages on it. thats the only one i know of03:07
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netpythongnomefreak, nah packages plenty03:08
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gnomefreaknetpython: not on 64bit without using chroot03:08
moultyits got to be drivers... or the lack of?03:08
netpythongnomefreak, true,however chroot works for me (acroread..)03:08
netpythonOr compiling from 32-bit source heh03:09
IceBiTe!es03:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:09
Frogzoomoulty: one A64 has missing codecs/drivers, dapper is beta03:09
netpythonFrogzoo, codecs such as?03:10
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gnomefreak!codecs03:11
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories03:11
moultysure thing, the i386 will work fine?03:11
Frogzoonetpython: can't say as I don't run a64, but this seems a general impression03:11
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GeistDerZeitHi Dudes, i've a doubt. I have a Breezy installed in PC A and now i installed it from the iso in PC B. However, while the A version is uptodate, the B one is far outdate and without various apps that i already installed in A. There is anyway to sync both, without an overhead to network and to me, something like copying /var/cache.03:11
netpythonFrogzoo, i use X68_64,can't say many codecs are missing03:12
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Frogzoomoulty: netpython what about flash?03:12
MistaEDgeistderzeit: look up apt-proxy03:12
netpythonFrogzoo, What's missing i just recompile from i386 to AMD6403:12
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MistaEDyou can make your main updating box act as a server repository somewhat, so whatever your updating machine has, the other machine can get it off from it03:12
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moultynetpython: did you just install dapper fresh or did you "upgrade" 'barezzy' *cough*03:13
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FrogzooGeistDerZeit: well you could try sharing /var/cache/apt via smb/nfs - don't see why that wouldn't work03:13
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kingspawnmoulty :)03:14
kingspawnwhy the stress about dapper? stay cool till it gets released03:14
kingspawn(and stay in school)03:15
moulty...... aye.... getting over-excited...03:15
moulty.......64bits.....03:15
moulty.....*swoon*03:15
kingspawnhaha03:15
Frogzoomoulty: install breezy - upgrade to dapper - when it breaks, file a bug report :)03:15
kingspawnit'll make your life SO much better03:15
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moulty:D03:15
kingspawnall this raving about 64 bits ...03:15
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GeistDerZeitthanks guys, i'll read a bit to figure out how to do what you said.03:16
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moultyahhhh common, you remember what it felt like when you got your first gig of harddrive space, or 2mb ram "expansion"...03:17
kingspawnhaha03:17
moulty....... its like getting my c64 all over again03:18
kingspawni am not so old i can't remember the feeling of excitement :)03:18
moulty*pant*03:18
moultyAye, i thought not!03:18
jollyjumperhow do I save in vim?03:18
kingspawnjollyjumper,  :w03:18
nickrudyoungsters, I remember my first 4k expansion :)03:18
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kingspawnnickrud, during the war.... ;)03:19
jollyjumpertnx03:19
moultyooow.. 4k, *bows*03:19
netpythonqmem03:19
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netpythonFrogzoo, flash in a chroot for the time being, haven't looked further yet.03:21
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lcoreIs it possible to mount ext3 partition ( m.point /media/data ) so that user mark will be able to read write to the partition? If so howto?03:21
netpythonmoulty, dapper..03:21
moultymm03:21
moulty?03:21
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netpython netpython: did you just install dapper fresh or did you "upgrade" 'barezzy' *cough*03:22
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Wibble-hey - I'm trying to write a program which puts binary data into mysql - and I want to tail -f the mysql logfile, but the binary characters mess up the terminal.  Is there any way to just display the non-control characters in gnome terminal or any other terminal?03:22
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_jasonWibble-: you can pipe it to ``strings'' would be one way03:23
moultyjust finished installing dapper fresh on the amd, no sound, lan, gfx drivers03:23
Wibble-perfect _jason - that works nicely.  Thanks.03:24
moultywas already doing so before we started chatting...03:24
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HDSHello all03:24
netpythonmoulty, no sound?,hmm03:24
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moultyjust read up a little...03:24
nickrudlcore: add to your /etc/fstab:  /dev/XXX /media/data ext3 rw,user,auto 0 003:24
moultyits the ALC850, will not work out of the box03:25
HDSWon't it?03:25
HDSMine did03:25
ruschiHi there - I just got my brand new Thinkpad T60,  unfortunately ACPI isn't really cool....03:25
moultyoh03:25
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HDSStrange03:25
ruschiT60 and ACPI support (ubuntu dapper drake) : echo "XX" > /sys/power/state is not allowed03:25
ruschi --- has anyone experience with suspend on a T60?03:25
HDSOh, right, i do have a problemw ith the new and (not surprised at this) badder ATI drivers my card is failing 3d tests....03:26
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netpythonmoulty, i happen to have a alc850 btw, and it gave that gdm sound upon launch..03:26
whyamiruschi: have you already looked for a solution at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki?03:26
_jasonWibble-: reading man strings says it only prints strings longer than 4 chars by default, so if you want to see things shorter than that, pass -n 103:27
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moultyright thanks guys, brb gonna get that firewall on the go... netpython: oh... ok i'll brb to figger it out thanks again03:27
ruschiyes - but T60 is fairly new and undocumented03:27
ruschiand the article about general ACPI doesn't cope with my problem03:27
netpythonmoulty, yaw03:27
ruschiI jsut wanted to know if someone else is out there playing with his new Thinkpad03:28
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HDSWhat should i do with my driver/card so as it wont fail the OpenGL and D3D tests anymore?03:28
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whyamiHDS: what kind of card?03:29
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HDSYour favorite linux (un)compatible card ATI03:29
Wibble-_jason: Your idea about strings made me think more - I'm trying to pipe it through sed so I can just strip the binary data03:29
HDSX800XL to be precise03:29
whyamiHDS: install the fglrx driver03:30
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HDSInstalled aalready03:30
HDSnewest version03:30
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ruschiHDS: ati doesn't look bad anymore once you tried intel i945GM03:30
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HDSFor linux it still is bad,03:30
visik7ruschi: :)03:30
HDSNext card will be an Nvidia03:30
whyamiHDS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358403:31
fluxtnvidia JustWorks(tm)03:31
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visik7ati doesn't provide driver even for x1x00 cards03:31
HDSI know03:31
sudharshhi evryone03:31
Robbsterlo all. I've just taken a fresh Breezy install and dist-upgraded (via cdrom) to dapper flight 5. Now, aside from the dapper kernel not booting, my more pressing problem is that the network card has disappeared? What do I do?03:31
visik7so ati sucks03:31
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sudharshis it ok to add dapper repos in breezy03:31
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HDSWhyami: Did that already i know hwo to install and remove the old driver, it's just....failing the tests i have no clue why...03:32
ramviI want to have root access / full access to all files on my user. How do I do this? I don't want that "File Browser (root)". I just want to make my system less secure and have full access to all files. How do I do this? Where should I read?03:32
kingspawnRobbster, stop using dapper.03:32
HDSBtw- if you have an ATI card or you pity ATI users sign here: http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html03:32
IceBiTeusing a iso of amd64, the installation process stopped while it is copying and configuring packages, at 76% -> configuring wvdial03:32
IceBiTedapper03:32
sudharshevolution is crashing whilst opening html mails03:33
Frogzooramvi: sudo -i  & enjoy (until you screw things up badly)03:33
Robbsterkingspawn: I can't believe that it is THAT unstable. They are (were) due for release in 3 weeks.03:33
sudharshany havin the same problem03:33
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kingspawnRobbster, personally I just dont see the need to have the latest flight installed and make a lot of hassle about it not working03:33
ramviFrogzoo, thanks03:34
sudharshhullo i m havin trouble with evolution03:34
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sudharshcan any one help me please03:34
Robbsterkingspawn: two reasons. 1. test to see if it works and perhaps help the community. 2. see if our existing network like dapper for a full release in late april/may.03:34
whyamiHDS: is DRI working? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI03:34
Robbsterbut is ia just a n/work card....03:35
HDSum.. damn, ill be back dont have IRC on ubuntu yet so i went the lazy way and did a reboot to doze03:35
HDS>_<03:35
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moulty'lo03:36
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moultyhow do i start/run firestarter?03:36
edanhow can i burn an image cd??03:36
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_jasonmoulty: system tools > firestarter03:36
moultyta03:36
kingspawnedan; i believe you can right click the iso03:36
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nickrudedan: right click the iso in the file manager, select write to disk03:37
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_jasonmoulty: note that the firewall is on even if the gui app firestarter is not open03:37
edannickrud, ill try that thnx03:37
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moultygrand!03:37
edankingspawn, i do not have that option03:37
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lcorenickrud: thank you "user" did the trick.03:37
kingspawnedan; both nickrud and I said the same thing, I believe..03:38
nickrudtrue03:38
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edankingspawn, maybe i didnt understand sorry im a bit hard....03:38
nickrudI was just more complete :)03:38
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kingspawnedan: no problem :)03:38
kingspawnhehe03:38
moultyits not there! also the anti-vi i intalled from DVD is not in list, if i goto menu edit, they are both in list and ticked, when apply and open menu-they are not found!?03:38
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b-oris it recommended to install the ubuntu from the harddrive instead of a cd? (any gudies?)03:39
_jasonmoulty: you are checking applications menu > system tools, not the system menu?03:39
kingspawnb-or, i dont believe there exists such a recommendation, no03:39
moultyaye03:40
edani opened write to disc does it burn the image as a file or as an image cd??03:40
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kingspawnedan; it writes the files inside the iso to the disc03:40
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_jasonmoulty: try 'killall gnome-panel'03:40
moultyif i goto Applications Menu Editer, I can see firestarter and other apps have installed, but they are not in the menu to run!03:41
b-orwell... any guides?03:41
Frogzoomoulty: logout & back in03:41
kingspawnb-or: to installing ubuntu?03:41
moultyk, brb, ta03:41
kingspawnb-or: i suggest help.ubuntu.com03:41
b-orkingspawn: and from the HD?03:41
edankingspawn, im trying to burn edubntu for my sister will it do the trik to use the cd as an installation cd?03:41
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katarotwhat is the real  dmsg i fogot the command03:42
Frogzoodmesg03:42
kingspawnedan: yes sir03:42
edanthnx03:42
kingspawnoh well. it is time to leave work and start consuming some quality beer.03:44
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kingspawntheskunk, your time will come, my friend :)03:45
theskunkyeah, @ 5:0003:45
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Co_Fit^Fresh_Sbyhi,guys...03:46
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Co_Fit^Fresh_Sbyanyone bi/gay?03:46
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FrogzooCo_Fit^Fresh_Sby: wrong channel03:47
gravesonhaving problems configuring ati display adapter,can anyone help me decipher the xorg log03:47
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whyamigraveson: paste it and your xorg.conf03:48
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whyamigraveson: use the pastebin03:48
gravesonwhyami: what is the pastebin03:48
Co_Fit^Fresh_Sbyups...sorry frogzoo,so...what this channel?03:48
whyami!pastebin03:48
ramviFrogzoo, the sudo -i dosn't give root access in konquer. How do I do that? I need all apps to be able to write to all dirs. quanta has to write to "www" in var for instance03:48
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whyami!tell graveson about pastebin03:49
Blue-OmegaCo_Fit^Fresh_Sby, read the topic03:49
wastrel!ubuntu03:49
ubotuubuntu is probably an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.03:49
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Frogzooramvi: from sudo -i, set a root password, logout & log back in as root - however, you really don't want to do this - it's just an awful idea03:50
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byteshackwhy do some packages get held back automatically?03:50
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jsmidtHas something happened to the gaim developers?  It seems gaim 2.0 should have been released a while ago and their website hasn't said a thing for months.03:50
ramviFrogzoo, okay. Say that I don't do that. How do I allow quanta to write to all dirs in /var/www?03:50
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thomas`anyone here i need help03:51
GnarusLeo!backup03:51
ubotuFor information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131103:51
byteshack!ask03:51
thomas`i want to take down my windows xp pc running from linux is that possible?03:51
nickrudramvi: it makes better sense to do your work on your web in your home or so, then copy to /var/www when needed. You keep better security that way03:51
thomas`to just make it bsod?03:51
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thomas`its on network03:51
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thomas`is it possible there is some kind of remote script to mess windows xp up from linux03:52
Gambit-hey what's the basic X11 ubuntu package called?03:52
thomas`on another pc on network03:52
ramvinickrud, then I would just boot into windows instead and get access to all files03:52
nickrudthomas`: this is not a hacker channel03:52
JhairGambit-: xserver-xorg03:52
thomas`haha were is one then?03:52
thomas`=P03:52
byteshack!hacker03:52
ubotubyteshack: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:52
ramviand I want root access to /media/fat (the fat partition for linux and windows to use)03:52
Gambit-ah right thanks03:53
qpxxpqMorning y'all03:53
Frogzooramvi: -> man chgrp03:53
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tavanciniguys, i want to disable the "hotplug" stuff for a moment... how can i do that?03:53
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kbrooksthomas`, this is NOT  a black hat channel03:53
gravesonwhyami:it is pasted03:54
thomas`i want to reboot it03:54
thomas`or something03:54
Kamping_Kaiser;ldkfaifa;dlikf;ldkadflkadlf;damn.03:54
thomas`do something to my windowspc03:54
Kamping_KaiserKEYBOARD03:54
whyamigraveson: send me the link03:54
Kamping_Kaiseralkdfja;ldkfj03:54
thomas`someones on my comp and i wanna just crash it. frmo here and freak them out03:54
qpxxpqKamping_Kaiser: Get a new one, they are like 10$03:54
thomas`my windows xp comp03:54
kbrooksthomas`, we don't care. i repeat: this is not a black hat channel.03:54
thomas`were is one then?03:54
Kamping_Kaiserqpxxpq: my keyboard just dropped out in *a* chat. i was just etsting...03:54
Frogzoothomas`: just login from terminal services client & reboot - done03:54
gravesonwhyami: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1039203:54
ramviFrogzoo, you want me to google man chgrp?03:55
ramviThanks :)03:55
qpxxpqthomas`: See that big thick cord that goes into your Power Supply in the back of your computer? Give that a little yank and that will crash your system.03:55
kbrooksthomas`, we don't know one. and such channels are offtopic on Freenode.03:55
Frogzooramvi: try that from the command line03:55
gravesonwhyami:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1039103:55
byteshackhow can I find out what color depth my an instance of x is running at? (as in, a vnc connection to x)03:55
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xeroxDo you know how to force a wireless usb dongle to seach of the ap?03:55
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kbrooksops?03:56
Frogzooxerox: man iwconfig03:56
J_Pall this http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages  are supported officialy ?03:56
kbrooksnalioth, lilo?03:56
qpxxpqbyteshack: There should be a way to right click on the vnc icon that is running in the tray and go to options, there should be a 'connection quality' button where yo ucan change it03:56
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xeroxFrogzoo: iwconfig wlan0 ap <whatever> says that it's not supported by the device :-\03:56
nickrudbyteshack: xdpyinfo | grep 'root window'03:56
naliothkbrooks: yes?03:57
whyamigraveson: well definitely one problem is that you are using the VESA driver in your xorg.conf. Are you trying to use the ATI driver or fglrx?03:57
nickrudbyteshack: I should read the whole question, worry03:57
byteshacknickrud, thanks, that actually answers my question03:57
kbrooksnalioth, someone wants to tajke down his pc from linux and wants to know if thats possible03:57
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adamk_hey guys, is there a repo yet for Gnome 2.14?03:58
naliothkbrooks: they want to do what?03:58
byteshackI'm logged in via vnc to a machine, and I didn't know at what depth that server had been started03:58
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Xenosthomas`: You should google for 'Windows XP force remote shutdown'03:58
kbrooksnalioth, take down a pc they own, they asked in here03:58
gravesonwhyami:yes i am trying to do that by using both the ubuntu provided drivers and the ati drivers ,but when configuring dpkg-reconfigure and reboot or restart x i get a blank screen03:58
nickrudbyteshack: if I'd seen 'vnc' , I would have said nothing, I've never used it03:59
Frogzooyes nalioth, some evil perp wants to remotely reboot a windows machine - we expect them publicly flaid03:59
naliothkbrooks: with windows, anything is possible03:59
ramviFrogzoo, thanks a lot :) I'm not allowed to chgrp ramvi /media/fat though... Know a possible reason?03:59
Xenosthomas`: There are lines in the DOS command prompt (in xp) to reboot systems on the local network.03:59
wastrelflayed03:59
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naliothFrogzoo: who was threatening that ?03:59
Frogzoowastrel: fair point03:59
Frogzoonalioth: I think someone's overreacting, imo04:00
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XenosFrogzoo: If it is there system they can do whatever they want.04:00
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FrogzooXenos: no arguments from me04:00
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kbrooksXenos, _if_, of course. if it isn't, they're unauthorized.04:01
HeManI have problems with Epiphany and AA-fonts, slashdot.org isn't AA-ed but ubuntu.com is04:01
renlorehi where can i find drivers for brother mfc-3240c printer?04:01
HeManany clues?04:01
Xenoskbrooks: Then we need to find out if it is his system or not.04:01
HeManI'm running dapper drake04:01
kbrooksXenos, how, then?04:01
Xenosrenlore: www.brother.com04:01
whyamigraveson: so if you edit the driver and change from vesa to ati you get a blank screen? You could capture your xorg.log after trying this and report it.04:01
kbrooksthomas`, !!!04:01
Xenoskbrooks: Ask?04:01
kbrooksthomas`, is this windows xp system yours?04:02
whyamigraveson: sorry I didn't mean edit the driver. I meant edit the xorg.conf to change the driver from vesa to ati.04:02
kbrooksthomas`, do you have any access to it?04:02
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Xenoskbrooks: Access is very different from owning. :)04:02
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kbrooksXenos, i asked both questions.04:02
Xenoskbrooks: But usually access leads to pwning. ;)04:03
nickrud!offtopic04:03
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!04:03
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ramviI'm not allowed to "sudo chgrp -hR ramvi /media/fat"... Know a possible reason?04:03
whyamigraveson: I'm getting into a time crunch and I'm not sure I can help too much further right now. There's lot of people here who can help you. Try the ati driver and report the log from this and somebody will help.04:03
albackerramvi, maybe you havent added yourself in sudo group.04:04
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fluxt!ncurses04:04
gravesonwhyami: i am not able to do that since if i change to vesa to ati and restart x the i get a blank screen ? should i DO THAT BEFORE RESTARTING X04:04
ubotufluxt: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:04
nickrudramvi: fat doesn't support permissions, you need to mount the partition with predefined permissions04:04
nickrud!vfat04:04
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:04
thomas`yes04:04
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renloreXenos, they have drivers for linux?04:04
thomas`this is my windows system its mine04:04
enycerm04:04
enycquestion ;-)04:04
ramvinickrud, Thanks!04:04
thomas`and yes i do have access to it kbrooks04:04
thomas`im just trying to do some remote things from my linux pc04:04
enyc?should I expect to plugin a 1394 hdd and have it work?04:04
Frogzoosee - it's thomas' machine - he said so himself :p04:04
kbrooksthomas`, well, join #ubuntu-offtopic04:04
enycthe ohci1394 driver has loaded etc.04:04
jeekllong question -> http://pastebin.com/60747704:04
enycbut I dont know howto access the disk ;-)04:04
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renloreoh they have :P04:05
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enyc/dev/sd[abc]  are up (scsi disks) xut I cant see/access a sdc04:05
whyamigraveson: change from vesa to ati, restart X, get the blank screen, then go to the command line <ALT><CTRL><F1>, save the log from the command line, change back to VESA.04:05
enyc/dev/sd[abc]  are up (scsi disks) xut I cant see/access a /dev/sdd even04:05
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J_Ppeople, universe is supported officaly byr ubuntu team ?04:06
naliothJ_P: and multiverse, too04:06
sinboxhi, question: just instaled ubuntu, it found my NIC, it's in device manager, I went to network setup and enabled eth0, tried it dhcp, then fixed IP but both failed to connect to the modem'router  any suggestions?04:06
Kamping_Kaiserno04:06
Kamping_Kaiserofficaly suppoarted?04:06
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enycsinbox: ?does in work under knoppix?04:07
J_Pofficialy supported04:07
naliothJ_P: uni and multi have devs to make sure the pkgs work with ubuntu04:07
sinboxno idea i never tried knoppix, this my first linux install ever04:07
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enycsinbox: it can be handy to boot knoppix etc.04:07
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enycsinbox: is theere definitely link-light both ends?04:07
sinboxoki I'll go read on that, thanks04:08
J_Pnalioth: I hear some about ubuntu support officialy only main packages04:08
J_Pthis is right ?04:08
sinboxI see a kink light on the machine, light blinks on the hub, I'll go check on the router and see04:08
naliothJ_P: yes, i misunderstood your original question04:08
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J_Pnalioth:  only this  right :   deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted04:09
J_P?04:09
stef_bonjour04:09
J_Pand this deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted04:09
fluxt!kernel04:09
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stef_connaissez vous le bug dans vlc, concernant les accents?04:09
stef_comment le resoudre?04:09
wastrel!fr04:09
Frogzoo!fr04:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:09
J_Pbut deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe  and multi not are not are supported officialy right ?04:09
stef_ok04:09
naliothJ_P: yes, that is officially supported.04:09
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J_Pnalioth: what ?04:10
J_Pnalioth: only main ?04:10
nickrudJ_P: main & restricted are supported by canonical, yes04:10
sinboxactually, when the machine was connected directly to the router modem I was getting no light at either end04:10
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J_Pok, but multi and uni not are right04:10
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nickrudJ_P: not supported by canonical, yes, but they are supported by the Ubuntu community04:11
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J_Pnickrud: becouse I think install ubuntu as server for postgresql 8.x, but 7.5 are in main and 8.x are in multi...04:12
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J_Pso, I need secutiry updates in this server.. in pgsql package too04:12
naliothJ_P: there is no problem with any software in uni  or multi04:12
nickrudJ_P: there must be some licensing issue for postgres (guessing) , main is by definition free, which is the cutoff.04:12
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J_Pnalioth: in multi and uni have security updates(fixes) ?04:13
naliothJ_P: yes, they do04:13
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J_Pnalioth: so : waht is diference in supported by canonical(main and restricted) and supported by comunity (uni and multi) ?04:14
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vespa02dsa04:15
naliothJ_P: i'm not sure, we support everything in here04:15
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J_Pnalioth: but deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse not have security updates right ? (backports)04:15
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naliothJ_P: i don't recommend folks to use backports.04:16
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nickrudJ_P: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components04:16
J_Pok nalioth, but uni and multi are really stable as main right ?04:16
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naliothJ_P: i've been using uni and multi since warty warthog and never had a problem04:17
apokryphosJ_P: they're pretty stable, yes. Ubuntu has a specific set of developers making packages for them.04:17
J_Pnalioth: ok, thank you!04:17
apokryphosJ_P: still, technically they're not "officially supported"04:17
J_Papokryphos: humm ok!04:17
iGotNoTimehow do I create a user for root class in ssh?04:17
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katarotis there any other way to get my wirless without ndiswrapper04:19
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wastreli like me some universe & multiverse packages04:20
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wastrelkatarot:  get another wireless card04:20
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katarotwastrel:yeah can you recomend one that has no hassle04:21
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wastrelkatarot:  i have a 3com pcmcia wifi card that works nicely.  the intel ones are also well supported04:22
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ubotuhmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers04:22
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katarotwastrel: thanks i  check it out04:23
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mehdihi everybody :)04:24
zzzZZZZzzzis it possible to setup internet on winmodem?04:25
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Frogzoo!linmodem04:25
ubotuhmm... linmodem is To get started with linmodems (aka winmodems), see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/04:25
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mehdihi  i would like to enable my 3d  graphic acceleration , i have an ATI card (ATI 3d rage pro) , is it possible ? i tried with mach64 drivers but it doesn't work !04:27
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yggdrasilgood morning folks04:28
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Frogzoomorning mr tree04:29
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yggdrasilmorning frogzilla04:30
yggdrasilfrogzoola04:30
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Frogzoolol04:30
yggdrasilwell the laptop performed nicely lastnight04:30
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yggdrasili couched it most of the evening and played .. internal wireless card was up like a charm04:31
yggdrasilhow are you this morning frogzoo ?04:31
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nazgulwalkerwhich software you prefer to watch video files?04:32
yggdrasilvlc04:32
jeremy1hi there04:33
Gnumannenvlc here as well04:33
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sinboxHi again, after checking syslog it seems the DHCPDISCOVER is running on subnet mask 255.255.255.255  but my network uses 255.255.255.0  anyway I can change the way DHCPDISCOVER searchec?04:33
yggdrasilits superior right out of the bo04:33
yggdrasilx04:33
sinboxvlc is great04:33
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yggdrasili built a home theater pc and it uses mplayer04:34
yggdrasili think it sucks04:34
HeManIsn't it possible to use root=LABEL=<my label> as kernel parameter under Ubuntu?04:34
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jeremy1what can I do to start fluxbox on startup04:34
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FrogzooHeMan: check in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:35
yggdrasiljeremy gdm ?04:35
yggdrasiljsut set it as the default session04:35
yggdrasiland the nhave it log in autmaticly04:35
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HeManFrogzoo: When i try to use root=LABEL=<my label> it stops with "Syntax error" when loading init04:36
jeremy1yggdrasil: xdm04:36
NeoCicakgood morning04:36
yggdrasiljeremy1 you using that for any particular reason ?04:36
yggdrasiljsut uninstall it and use gdm04:36
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NeoCicakwhen is the next ubuntu out?04:36
smoHeMan: label=label=value looks really nasty to me.  do you know if it'll let you quote it? so root="label=value" ?04:37
jeremy1yggdrasil: I just want a low ram use system. that's i'm using it04:37
wastreljune 1 for dapper04:37
yggdrasiloh04:37
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HeMansmo: i've tried to both use " and '04:37
jeremy1yggdrasil: And i want to start firefox on startup04:37
jeremy1yggdrasil: automatically04:37
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yggdrasiljeremy1 you could always just let it start of into the text mode login04:37
yggdrasiland the start x04:38
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yggdrasili dot know if xdm can log you in automaticly04:38
HeManIn Fedora I could use root=LABEL=<my label> with no need to escape it04:38
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gravesoncan anyone help me decode the xorg.log file .I installed the ATI driver ,but when enabling the ATI driver and rebooting my systemhanges04:38
jeremy1yggdrasil: It does04:38
yggdrasiloh i see04:38
yggdrasilgoogle it04:38
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xotaexcuse me, what is a linux-header? special modules for our kernel?04:38
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jeremy1yggdrasil: What i want the system to do is. it should start x auto and start firefox that's all04:39
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yggdrasiljeremy you need to have a xdm log you in04:39
HeManthe reason i like to use labels is that it's a SCSI system with the external scsi-bus as the first bus which means that if I put a drive on the external bus it won't boot...04:39
jeremy1yggdrasil: oh04:39
yggdrasiland then you edit your um .xsession to just be firefox04:39
svuwho is building gnome-applets in ubuntu?04:40
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yggdrasilfvwm might be nice to have though but flox box ive run ona p130 with 32 mb of ram and it was a champ04:40
HeManso if anyone has a better solution than using labels i gladly use it04:40
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MatyasZAYipee I got it to work UBUNTU for the win!04:40
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jeremy1yggdrasil: ok then i'll install fvwm to check, but what do i do there after to start firefox on startup04:41
nickrudjeremy1: you can add any apps you want to start along with gnome in System->Prefs->Sessions tab Startup programs04:41
blakeanyone tell me how to fix my apace2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?04:41
yggdrasiljeremy1 do you hve flux up and running ..04:41
nickrudarg, nm04:41
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yggdrasiljeremy its the .xsession file in your ~/.xsession04:41
yggdrasilor rather ~./xsession04:41
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jeremy1yggdrasil: ya i have flux up, but it work when I startx04:42
yggdrasilhmm04:42
nickrudyggdrasil: right the first time04:42
yggdrasilyea04:42
No1VikingI need a good CD ripper04:42
nickrudjeremy1: in that .xsession file, add    firefox &    somewhere before the last line04:43
yggdrasiljeremy1 say again ?04:43
blakeanyone tell me how to fix my apache2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?04:43
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yggdrasiljeremy1 msg me04:44
jeremy1yggdrasil:04:44
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kranghowdy all04:44
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jeremy1yggdrasil: can I explain you someting wuickly04:45
FrogzooHeMan: not sure if it helps - but LABEL is something done in initrd, not the kernel04:45
yggdrasilsure04:45
jeremy1yggdrasil: I did a server install with ubuntu breezy right04:45
yggdrasilyar04:45
krangAnyone: am I going to get problems if I add a debian apt repository and gaily intall stuff from it?04:45
jeremy1yggdrasil: Then I installed x,and all the other stuff it needed and then fluxbox04:46
yggdrasilok04:46
yggdrasilmakes perfect sense04:46
takedown!easysource04:46
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:46
nickrudkrang: yes, there's no promise of binary compatibility04:46
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jeremy1yggdrasil: Then i started x and flux didnt want to start it gave me an error04:46
krangSo i should really compile my own stuff then?04:46
yggdrasiloh i see04:46
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yggdrasiljeremy1 msg me04:47
yggdrasilill get you fixed up04:47
yggdrasililike flux04:47
nickrudkrang: just about anything you want out of debian can be found in ubuntu, except maybe the latest from unstable04:47
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krangubotu: thx for that link04:47
gravesoncan anyone help me decode the xorg.log file .I installed the ATI driver ,but when enabling the ATI driver and rebooting my system hangs ?04:47
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jeremy1yggdrasil: The error is that there were no .xsession in my home dir04:48
yggdrasilyep04:48
krangnickrud: Are you sure? I just installed it and can't find effectv, which is allegedly at the debian site for woody or later04:48
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yggdrasilso just vim ~/.xsession04:48
krangno nmapFE either04:48
yggdrasiland the write startfluxbox and save it04:48
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jeremy1yggdrasil: But i found out that fluxes .xsesion file were in /usr/share/.xsession04:49
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nickrudkrang: effectv is in universe, it's not automatically enabled in your sources.04:49
renlorehow do i set the username and password for the CUPS wrapper?04:49
jeremy1yggdrasil: I think the file is called flux.desktop04:49
yggdrasiljeremy hang on im checking it for you04:49
nickrud!tell krang about sources04:49
blakeanyone tell me how to fix my apache2 to let people view webpages on the box through ~user account ?04:50
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krangoooh ok, reading time i think. thanks!04:50
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jeremy1yggdrasil: So i created a link between /usr/share/xsession/fluxbox.dektop and .xsession in my home dir04:51
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smoblake: afiak it should work out of the box, as long as ~/public_html/ exists, and is readable by the www-data user04:51
yggdrasiloh no i dont htin kthats right jeremy104:51
No1VikingI need a good CD ripper, any suggestions?04:51
blakewell the homepage of it works04:51
blakebut when i try to view the users on the boxs public_html04:51
SamyOh my god I'm on a English channel ^^"04:51
HeManFrogzoo: ah!04:51
blakesays permission denied04:51
nickrudjeremy1: create ~/.xsession , put firefox & on the first line, fvwm on the second (no &) and startx04:51
jeremy1yggdrasil: But When i started flux it worked04:51
SamyIs there a French channel here? :P04:52
krangSamy: Was farbe hat der bleistift?04:52
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smoblake: most likely you need to make sure both /home/user and /home/user/public_html are either readable (+rx) by www-data or world04:52
wastrelpencil?  bleistift - we're talking about pencils?04:52
Frogzoo!tell samy about fr04:52
yggdrasiljeremy try to jsut do . sudo dpkg-reconfigure fluxbox04:52
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krangI didn't know any other foreign words :-)04:52
No1VikingI need a good CD ripper, to mp3 and/or ogg, any suggestions?04:53
jeremy1nickrud: should i just create a .xsession file and put that in there04:53
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blakewhats the command to do that to a account ? chmod ? someting ?04:53
SamyThank you man04:53
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smoblake: chmod o+rw path, I believe04:53
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nickrudjeremy1: yeah, that's the startx method. You can put anything in there you want, like xclock & and xterm &04:53
blakethanks , ill try that now04:53
jeremy1yggdrasil: it does nothing04:53
smoblake: my mistake, +rx, NOT +rw04:53
nickrudjeremy1: the last line should be your window manager, without the &04:54
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Dragonhi04:54
HeManFrogzoo: Do you know if there is any way around the "scsi-rename-problem"?04:54
No1VikingI need a good CD ripper, for ripping to mp3 and/or ogg, any suggestions?04:54
green_earzNo1Viking: check out grip   > aptitude show grip04:54
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ardchoilleWhere can I find a webpage with a release schedule for Ubuntu?04:55
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jeremy1yggdrasil: Are you still there04:55
blakestill not working04:55
blakeAdditionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.04:56
wastrelouch04:56
smoblake: did you spot my correction with +rw vs +rx ?  last thing I want to do is leave you with world-writable homedirs04:56
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blakeyup04:56
jeremy1nickrud: I did create the file and I've put in startx04:56
jeremy1nickrud: What next04:56
blake chmod o+rx /home/blake/public_html04:56
nickrudjeremy1: the file you put that stuff in is ~/.xsession04:56
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jeremy1nickrud: That's right i did that04:56
yggdrasiljeremny1 im here04:57
Dragon#ubunto-ko04:57
HeManNo1Viking: you don't like sound-jucier?04:57
nickrudjeremy1: then, startx will start X, and run through those lines, starting them.04:57
FrogzooHeMan: might be possible to rebuild initrd to get it to work - though I wouln't really know04:57
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yggdrasildid you add that to you .xsession ?04:57
yggdrasilonce you get flux up and runing ill help you set your startup stuff04:57
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jeremy1yggdrasil: ok04:57
yggdrasiltheres abit of a trix to it04:57
yggdrasiljust add that to your .xsession right nickrud04:58
Dr_Willisi always used .xinitrc :P04:58
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jeremy1nickrud: Must I put fluxbox in my .xsession file to04:58
nickrudyggdrasil: the flux stuff, I don't know the app names04:58
nickrudDr_Willis: depreciated :)04:58
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No1VikingHeMan, I wanted the CDDB function04:58
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yggdrasilnuckrud if he can get flux up and running ... i can make flux do things the way its designed to04:59
Dr_Willisnickrud,  actually i thought .xsession was depreciated about 10 yrs ago. :P04:59
blakesmo: still noit working04:59
No1VikingHeMan, I isntalled grip and that one looks really interesting!04:59
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rohre04:59
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No1Vikinggreen_earz, Thanks for the suggestion. Looks really nice!  :)04:59
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jeremy1nickrud: I can only start x now my flux dont work04:59
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HowitzerIs it possible to access TTY1 with a gnome-terminal in X?04:59
smoblake: I'm not sure what else would deny that.  have you changed 'Options Indexes' anywhere in the config?  do you have userdir.load in /etc/apache2/modules-enabled/  ?05:00
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yggdrasiljeremy1 what did you add to your .xsession05:00
jeremy1nickrud: I added startx05:00
nickrudjeremy1: you only started the window manager portion, you should be able to move the windows. You'll need yggdrasil to tell you which extra apps to add05:00
smoblake: grasping at straws here .. permissions on public_html is the only way I've broken /~user/ dirs05:00
chuckypHowitzer, what do you mean?05:00
jeremy1 I added startx05:00
yggdrasilno05:00
yggdrasilyou need to add fluxbox05:00
yggdrasilor startfluxbox05:00
nickrudDr_Willis: heh. I checked the startx man page05:01
jeremy1yggdrasil: ok I'll do that now05:01
tepyIf I wanted to check a .com domain for all links to another .com domain, what would or could I use? Ohhh, and hello everyone.05:01
Howitzerchuckyp, i have mpg123 running in TTY1 because i restart X a lot, however i don't want to switch to TTY1 all the time to go to the next song or anything05:01
blakesmo: yeah there is a userdir.load05:01
HowitzerSo i want to access TTY1 from within X05:01
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Dr_Willissample .xsession -> 2 lines, line 1    xterm &      line 2   exec fluxbox05:02
Dr_Willis:P05:02
chuckypHowitzer, unless you start it using screen thats the only way I know how to do it other wise you'd have to ctrl+alt+f105:02
chuckypHowitzer, and then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x.05:02
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chuckypHowitzer, but if you start it with screen you should be able to attache to that screen from withing gnome terminal05:02
jeremy1yggdrasil: fluxbox actually started now after that change, thx for that05:02
blakeLoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_userdir.so05:02
Howitzerhmm05:02
Howitzerokay05:02
Howitzeri'll try that, thanks05:02
smoblake: afraid I'm outta ideas then.  you've managed to break something I haven't (yet)05:02
chuckypHowitzer, np05:03
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Dr_Willisheh - such a simple thing.. being made way too hard. :p05:03
yggdrasiljeremny 1 awesom05:03
yggdrasilnow your gonna go into ~/.fluxbox05:03
LazyAngelnever mind05:03
chuckypHowitzer, or if they have some sort of other interface for it. i.e. web control or something.05:03
tepyKeep it Simple Silly05:03
nickrudDr_Willis: true, too bad I don't know flux enough to know which app it was05:03
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yggdrasiland your gonna edit ~/.fluxbox/apps05:04
blakesmo: <IfModule mod_userdir.c>05:04
blake        UserDir public_html05:04
blake        UserDir disabled root05:04
blake        <Directory /home/*/public_html>05:04
blake                AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit05:04
blake                Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec05:04
blake        </Directory>05:04
HeManNo1Viking: umm, in my sound-juicer i have CDDB-support...05:04
blake</IfModule>05:04
yggdrasilto have [startup]  {firefox &}05:04
yggdrasilthats it.05:04
No1VikingHeMan, do you?05:04
wastrelpastebin or #flood05:04
yggdrasilthen you can right click on the desktop and say um05:04
smoblake: as long as Indexes is there, you shouldn't need an index.html, that was my last random guess.  (and recommend pastebin.ca in future .. people don't like multi-line pastes in the channel)05:04
yggdrasilrestart05:04
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chuckyp!tell blake about paste05:05
HeManNo1Viking: or atleast musicbrainz-support05:05
jeremy1yggdrasil: where do i put firefox05:05
HeManNo1Viking: it solved my cd's so i figured it used CDDB05:06
yggdrasiland your gonna edit ~/.fluxbox/apps05:06
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yggdrasilto have [startup]  {firefox &}05:06
saifhello,05:06
saifcan i give some1 the ability to mount, without giving him sudo?05:06
shigssaif: SMB?05:06
Dr_Willissaif,  the 'user' and 'users' option in the fstab make the specific mount point mountable by users05:06
jeremy1yggdrasil: Can I put firefox last on the list05:07
Dr_Willisi forget how user differes from 'users' however.05:07
yggdrasilwhat else are you putting in there ..05:07
yggdrasilthought u just wanted firefox05:07
yggdrasilyou can do whatever you want just as long as your stick to that .. schema05:07
No1VikingHeMan, Where do you see that funtionality, for example in the settings?05:07
saifDr_Willis, well, the thing is, users will be getting image files, and they need to mount it with -o loop05:07
saifdo i have to add a mount point for each image?05:07
jeremy1yggdrasil: yes sorry only firefox, do you know exacly where i should put it05:07
nickrudusers lets anyone unmount05:07
yggdrasiluh..05:08
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Frogzoosaif: you need to configure sudo to allow mount05:08
Gambit-hm I just finished installing xserver-xorg but now it says it needs some fonts, what's the font package it's lookign for? (specifically, finding the 'fixed' font)05:08
yggdrasiledit ~/.fluxbox/apps to have ... [startup]  {firefox &}05:08
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jeremy1yggdrasil: there is no apps file05:09
HeManNo1Viking: I don't, it just works...05:09
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Dr_Willismake one :p05:09
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yggdrasiljeremy 105:10
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No1VikingHeMan, Ok, seems the CD I have is not listed in that database05:10
yggdrasilis there a .fluxbox ?05:10
jeremy1yggdrasil: yes05:10
yggdrasiljust make it i guesse05:10
HeManNo1Viking: The reason I found out it was Music Brainz is that I selected "Submit Track Name" under Disc and it sent me to their web-page05:10
jeremy1yggdrasil: there is init,keys,menu,slitlist,startup05:10
yggdrasilyea ok just do the apps05:11
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jeremy1yggdrasil: I created the file05:11
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yggdrasili made the mistake of messing with the startup.. dont do that05:12
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xxenonHi. I added a Samba share in my fstab. I'm getting Operation not permitted when trying to mount it. Any idea ?05:12
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Gambit-So other then the xserver-xorg package, what else do I need to install?05:12
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dgutiola05:12
jeremy1yggdrasil: Is there a spicific way of editing the file05:13
dgutihello05:13
aeon17x!breadcrumbs05:13
ubotuaeon17x: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:13
yggdrasiledit ~/.fluxbox/apps to have ... [startup]  {firefox &}05:13
aeon17x!coffee05:13
ubotu418 I'm a teapot05:13
yggdrasiljust write that [startup]  in the first line05:13
dgutiwhat your name?05:13
yggdrasiljust like it is there05:13
jeremy1yggdrasil: Should i put it in just like that05:13
yggdrasiljsut write that in the first line.05:13
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yggdrasil[startup]  {firefox &}05:13
dgutihave you got amsn?05:13
yggdrasiljust like that05:13
jeremy1yggdrasil: [startup]  {firefox}05:13
yggdrasil[startup]  {firefox &}05:14
jeremy1yggdrasil: [startup]  {firefox &}05:14
yggdrasilso that it goes to the background with th &05:14
yggdrasilyes05:14
jeremy1yggdrasil: ok05:14
jeremy1yggdrasil: I'll do that now05:14
dgutigive my05:14
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jeremy1yggdrasil: I'm done with that05:14
yggdrasilright click on the desktop and restart05:14
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mgarciahello05:15
jeremy1yggdrasil: ok05:15
yggdrasildid it work ?05:15
dgutino05:15
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jeremy1yggdrasil: yes awsome thanx for that :)05:16
saifin sudo, there are options like "username all = (ALL) all" , can i change it to have only mount? any1 faq's on this?05:16
yggdrasilyour welcome05:16
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saifi mean, the file /etc/sudoers05:16
dgutihave you got a amsn?05:16
jeremy1yggdrasil: can this be done with other window managers too05:17
yggdrasilyou can make anythign start up in there its better than the .xsession cuz .. well cuz its fluxbox calling them05:17
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yggdrasiljeremy no i think they are different05:17
lkj1Why isn't my thumbrive showing up in/etc/fstab or /etc/mtab?05:17
yggdrasilyoull learn to love fluxbox.05:17
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yggdrasilits small and powerfull.05:17
dgutigive my the telephon number of you05:17
dgutiplease05:17
mgarciahave you got a msn05:17
payrokfluxbox, blackbox, two awesome window managers05:17
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markitoxshello05:18
payroki agree there agg05:18
yggdrasilnever tried blackbox05:18
mgarciahello05:18
dgutihello markitox05:18
payrokfluxbox is based on blackbox05:18
yggdrasilis it better than flux ?05:18
yggdrasiloh intersting05:18
markitoxsdoes anyone now, how to change that horrible brown color that shows up while loading?05:18
mgarciahave you got a msn05:18
mgarcia?05:18
yggdrasilso flux is prob a bit nicer ?05:18
payrokyeah05:18
dgutihello payrok05:18
payrokbut blackbox is still nice05:18
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payrokhi dguti05:19
dgutihi payrok05:19
mgarciahave  you got a msn05:19
dgutihave you got a amsn?05:19
yggdrasiljeremy now you just have to figure out how to make xdm log you in automaticly05:19
payrokno05:19
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dgutipayrok05:19
dgutiok05:19
mgarciahave you got a amsn05:20
alterrhello guys,  how many kernel's  have into the  repository of ubuntu ?05:20
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markitoxsdoes anyone now, how to change that horrible brown color that shows up while loading?05:20
payrokfor breezy the latest is 2.6.12-1005:20
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payroki think05:20
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yggdrasilmarkitoxs im down with that tooo05:20
payrokdapper is using 2.6.1505:20
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jeremy1yggdrasil: Can you help with configuring firefox to start in full screen without top bars and side bars05:21
markitoxsyggdrasil, it's horrible... lol05:21
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lafferptthis is very basic but I can't seem to understand it N=1; until test "$N" -gt "10"; do echo "Number $N"; N=$[N+1] ; done ..... shoudn't it be -lt rather than -gt... but it prints the result Number 1 til 1005:21
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dgutiola05:21
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lafferptadeus05:22
dgutiadeuss05:22
dguticapullo05:22
_jasonlafferpt: it says ``unitl'' not ``while''05:22
dgutitodos05:22
mgarciaadeuss05:22
mgarciacapullo05:22
mgarciatodos05:22
dguticabronessssssssssssssssssssssssss05:22
alterrwtf ?05:22
mgarciapor no darnos msn05:22
yggdrasiljeremy whats your screen resolution ?05:22
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mgarciacapoullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooo05:23
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dgutistrange tales05:23
mgarciak capulllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssssss05:23
Dr_Willisjeremy1,  theres a firefox extension that can do that.05:23
Dr_Willisjeremy1 - you trying to make your own web-koisk?05:23
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manterxkehi05:23
mgarciacapulllossssssss cabronesssssssssss05:23
lafferpt_jason, but shoudn't it be -lt?05:23
markitoxsyggdrasil, i found it05:23
markitoxs:)05:23
payrokisn't there a kiosk package in the repository?05:24
mgarciacapullosssssssssss05:24
jeremy1Dr_Willis: you right can you tell where to get it05:24
mgarciacabtrromn05:24
manterxkemgarcia is fjdsgv05:24
payroki can't check right now cause I'm running autmatix05:24
markitoxsyggdrasil, $ sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf05:24
markitoxs   change the BackgroundColorsetting05:24
_jasonlafferpt: if it were ``while'' that would work05:24
pizzadudeany idea when dapper will be released?05:24
yggdrasilahh cool05:24
yggdrasilwhats black05:24
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YamatetsuCoucou la room ! :)05:24
yggdrasiljeremy what did you come up with ?05:24
payroksomeone is trying to delay it about 6 weeks to polish the installer05:24
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payrokso don't get too anxious yet05:25
_jasonlafferpt: try putting the ``while'' in there instead of ``until'' and change -gt to -lt to see what happens05:25
jeremy1yggdrasil: I dont know how to check my resolution05:25
yggdrasiloh05:25
Schmidtis it possible to change the inconding in mc?05:25
yggdrasilum05:25
yggdrasilprob 800x60005:25
lafferpt_jason, gotta check my english dictionary for until05:25
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lafferpt_jason, :S05:25
yggdrasiljust do firefox -height 800 -width 60005:25
yggdrasilsee how that looks05:25
_jasonlafferpt: basically it negates the condition and is the same as while05:25
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manterxkebilly goat05:26
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manterxkeson of a bitch05:27
lafferpt_jason, got it05:27
Dr_Willisjeremy1,  the firefox extension web site.05:27
mgarciason of a bitch05:27
manterxkeyour mother05:27
jeremy1Dr_Willis: yeah05:27
jeremy1yggdrasil: Where should type tha tin the terminal05:28
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mana_ana05:28
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mana_ola05:28
mana_hello05:28
manterxkego at the shitty05:28
_jason!language05:29
ubotuit has been said that language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.05:29
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manterxkeyour moyther05:29
mgarciahijo de pura05:29
thegladiatoris there a firefox quickstarter ?05:29
gnulinuxAnyone installed gcc for a PowerPC?05:30
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Dr_Willisgnulinux,  you mean on the PPC version of Ubuntu?05:30
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gnulinuxyes, breezy05:30
jeremy1yggdrasil: I have to leave u guys now, but can we go further with this on another time hey05:30
mana_billy goat05:30
Dr_Willisapt-get install build-essential05:30
Dr_Willisfor the core development files.05:31
thegladiatoris there a firefox quickstarter ?05:31
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jeremy1Dr_Willis: Can you give me the link05:31
Dr_Willisthegladiator,  i dont  think anyone knows what you mean.05:31
thegladiatorto minimize the load time of FF ?05:31
payrokwhat do you mean quickstarter05:31
gnulinuxTried. Can't find the package05:31
Dr_Willisjeremy1,  its got a link in the 'extensions' menu of firefox. or google.com/firefox05:31
payrokyou could try getting the new optimized version of firefox05:31
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payrokswiftfox i think05:31
thegladiatori m on 1.5 right now05:32
Dr_Willis!info build-essential05:32
thegladiatorswift fox ?05:32
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB05:32
HowitzerHirvinen, i was wondering how you could measure if the traffic coming and going trough your pc is going via LAN or internet05:32
thegladiatorwhere can I get it ?05:32
thegladiator!swiftfox05:32
_jasongnulinux: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?05:32
ubotuthegladiator: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:32
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mana_bello05:32
jeremy1Dr_Willis: Ok thanks for everything I have to leave you now05:32
payrokithiink that's the name05:32
mana_buafhsdujfiasdfoiasd05:32
mana_fdfajsdfijasdf05:32
mana_idiotas05:32
thegladiatorof a softaware or a plugin / extention ?05:32
payrokreplacement for firefox,05:32
HowitzerThe thing is this: i'm using vncviewer to connect to my windows desktop downstairs, however, i don't know if i'm connecting trough LAN or right over the internet.05:32
mana_idiotic05:32
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mana_tu madre es idiota05:33
_jasonmana_: please stop05:33
_jason!es05:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:33
thegladiatorthanks payrok http://getswiftfox.com/05:33
gnulinuxsure05:33
yggdrasiljeremy1 thats gonna be in your .fluxbox/apps cdm05:33
yggdrasilcmd05:33
thegladiatorits for amd exclusively05:33
yggdrasillater05:33
payroki can't remember the details, but i don't think they stripped anything, i think it's just better optimised05:33
payroktheglad no problem05:33
truz24What makes pinging the "hostname" of a machine work?  On a couple of boxes, I can ping by hostname, others say "host not found"05:33
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HymnToLifetruz24> sudo nano /etc/hosts05:33
Dr_Willistruz24,  on windows box's it works?05:33
truz24no, 2 diff ubuntu05:33
Dr_Willisor are these all linux box's05:34
truz24windows always work05:34
truz242 installations of ubuntu server05:34
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Dr_Willis"windows always work" -  *shudder*05:34
truz24trying to ping from a windows box05:34
payrokwell, I shall return later05:34
joakkinen#ubuntu-en05:34
payroki need to reboot05:34
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gnulinuxsources.list is posted . Name gnulinux05:35
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_jasongnulinux: for future reference, it's easier if you give everyone a link, but I got it05:35
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gnulinuxsure05:35
portoporthello gurus05:35
gnulinuxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1039805:35
portoportlibpam-mysql    how can i install this one?05:36
portoportapt-get cant find it05:36
_jasongnulinux: you are missing the main repository, are you comfortable editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:36
yggdrasilso anyonw have any ideas on working with the intel 82830 830 video driver ? . i got x but whenever i drop into a console ctrl alt f2 say andi try to got back to ctrl alt f7 the screen does some wierd fade and it bascily crashes...05:36
gnulinuxthink so05:36
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portoportany help for me?05:36
_jasongnulinux: actually, you have some repititions.  It may be easier for you to just create a new one and replace your current one.  The bot will send you a link to make that easy05:37
_jasonubotu: tell gnulinux about easysource05:37
Stormx2Has dapper got the new GNOME, or when will it get it?05:37
hartymlittle question: i set up samba share with the sharing tool provided in ubuntu, but windows box from which i try to access the share ask me for a password which is different from mine, so is this tool working or not on his own or not at all?05:37
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nickrudportoport, that package is in universe05:38
tom_sorry but does any one know where is can find the dapper resipratories i want to update on my test box05:38
nickrud!tell portoport about easysource05:38
_jasonubotu: tell tom_ about upgrade05:38
portoportok going to that site nickrud05:39
tom_thank you05:39
No1VikingHow changing locales in dapper?05:39
Frogzoohartym: u need to either set an smb passwd with 'smbpasswd' or change smb.conf to use the nix passwd05:39
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chuckyp!tell No1Viking about dapper05:39
nickrudNo1Viking: dapper questions on dapper ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales05:40
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nickrudNo1Viking: um #ubuntu+1 :)05:40
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ifeanyihey i need help05:40
_payrokok05:40
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_payrokifeanyi what do you need05:41
ifeanyiam trying to get my sound card to work05:41
No1VikingWow, a nice old fire!  :)05:41
_payroksounds like fun, what's wrong?05:41
nickrudNo1Viking: dpkg-reconfigure? makes me warm05:41
ifeanyiI am new to this05:41
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ifeanyiI do not know how to05:41
ifeanyiI used alsa05:41
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ifeanyibut it will not work05:42
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_payrokifeanyi ok so open up a terminal05:42
ifeanyiok05:42
No1Vikingnickrud, try that command if you have dapper05:42
_payrokifeanyi first what is your hardware05:42
ifeanyiis open05:42
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No1Vikingnickrud, cos I did and it does not work05:42
hartymFrogzoo, yup i found it thx :p05:42
_payrokifeanyi and is this a new install?05:42
ifeanyiyes05:42
No1Vikingnickrud, I better go to +105:42
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ifeanyijust got  a new laptop05:42
ifeanyiinspiron E170505:43
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_payrokok hold on05:43
ifeanyiwas hard to get wireless05:43
tom_sorry im kinda knew and forgot how to open apt list05:43
_payrokgoing to look that up05:43
ifeanyiok am waiting05:43
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hartymifeanyi, i had hard time on my first laptop geting wireless working too05:44
ifeanyiyes05:44
ifeanyiit took me 2weeks05:44
ifeanyihardly know anything in linux05:44
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ifeanyibut am  learning05:44
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_payrokdo a lspci -v and tell me what that says about a sound card?05:45
amishWhat od i need to apt get to intall somethign that plays wmv files05:45
_payrokthat's good05:45
Jhairamish: mplayer05:45
ifeanyiit says alot05:46
tom_can somebody please tell me how to open apt resipratary list05:46
ifeanyiwhat do I look out for05:46
amishamish@Tux:/$ apt-get install mplayer05:46
amishE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:46
amishE: Unable to lock the list directory05:46
gnulinuxThanks _Jason and Ubotu. Very nice work with easysource05:46
wastrel...05:46
_payroklook for multimedia05:46
chuckypamish, close synaptic down then try again05:46
Jhairamish: that way you can't download only mplayer, but ANY package you want05:46
ifeanyiok05:47
chuckypamish, you will get that error if synaptic is open and you try to use apt-get05:47
_payrok or sound, you may have to scroll back05:47
_jasongnulinux: I had nothing to do with it, thank Seveas I think :)05:47
amishwhats synaptic?05:47
chuckypamish, the gnome package manager or the auto-update  you have one of those open in gnome.05:47
wastrelsudo amish05:47
chuckypamish, ahh yeah sudo apt-get install <package name>05:47
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amishoh of course05:48
ifeanyican i send it across it has alot of unknown device05:48
chuckyp!tell amish about restricted05:48
tom_ can somebody please tell me how to open apt resipratary list05:48
chuckypamish, you can use vlc to play wmv if you don't want to mess with all the codecs.05:48
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chuckyptom_, /etc/apt/sources.list05:48
amishI have vlc bit it dosnt play it05:48
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Jhairamish: mplayer is the way to go amish05:48
_payrokamish if you want an easy way to install alot of apps to make your system more useful, check out ubuntuforums.org and search for automatix05:48
evil_cowi upgrade to daper drake and now i cant install ati drivers05:48
chuckyptom_, so sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or nano or whatever editor you want to use.05:48
cyrosi think xmms does wmv also, no?05:48
evil_cowcoud someone help me05:49
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amishYa so how do i shut down the gnome package manager then05:49
_payrokifeanyi yeah just a second though05:49
chuckyp_payrok, why are all you guys hooked on automatix?   isn't it dated to hell?05:49
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ifeanyiok05:49
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wastrel!automatix05:49
ubotumethinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.05:49
_jasonamish: vlc doesn't play wmv9, mplayer ftw :)05:49
_payrokchuck no, it's very up to date05:50
yggdrasilcant get real player working here.. ir runs but im getting no sound. its controlling the pcm  volume switch ... but no sound05:50
evil_cowDetection version os X does not detect  'x700'directory05:50
evil_cowPLS05:50
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_payrokif you look at the bottom of the first post it was updated 4 days ago05:50
chuckypamish, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295 is the link for automatix05:50
amishYa but how do i shut down this auto update manager?05:50
amishi used Easy Breezy or asy Ubuntu05:50
evil_cowPLS help05:50
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amishEasy*05:50
portoportThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:50
portoport  libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1) but 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed05:50
portoportE: Broken packages05:50
chuckypamish, close the window that says synaptic package manager.05:50
portoporthow do i solve that one?05:50
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chuckyp!tell portoport about paste05:51
Devil^Chatcan same one help me about ubuntu pls05:51
portoportopps sorry chuckyp05:51
wastrelyggdrasil:  check out the flash troubleshooting section on the restricted formats wiki page05:51
chuckypportoport, sudo apt-get -f install someone check me on that one.05:51
Devil^Chati have probrem install opera in ubuntu05:51
cyrosyea i get that error to when i try to apt-get install samba05:51
_payrokchucky, i just used it a few moments ago, everything is up to date and works very well05:51
chuckypDevil^Chat, sudo apt-get install opera05:51
yggdrasilwastrel audacitys giving me a gripe too..05:51
ifeanyipayrok am still waiting05:51
HymnToLifechuckyp> opera is nop in universe I think05:51
portoportok chuckyp05:51
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chuckyp_payrok, dunno i'm running dapper so.  Is it a script or something someone wrote?05:51
HymnToLifenor in any "usual" repo05:52
_payrokifea i started a new window and messaged you05:52
chuckypHymnToLife, sure it is05:52
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HymnToLifewhen I tried to install it it was not05:52
ifeanyidid not see it05:52
amishchuckyp no such window05:52
HymnToLifeit's been a while, thouh05:52
_payrokchucky yeah, with a little gui, I don't know if it officially supports dapper though05:52
chuckypHymnToLife, maybe not05:52
chuckypamish, is it maybe not open then?05:52
Devil^ChatYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:05:52
Devil^ChatThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:52
Devil^Chat  libqt3-mt: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed05:52
Devil^Chat             Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed05:52
Devil^Chat             Depends: libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0.2) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installe d05:52
Devil^ChatE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a s olution).05:52
Jhairhm05:53
chuckyp!tell Devil^Chat about paste05:53
portoportchuckyp sudo apt-get -f install <-after that command do i have to install the package again?05:53
_payrokifeanyi look for a tab with my name on it at the bottom of your client05:53
cyrosyea im getting the unmet dependencies error also, is that something with the server?05:53
jarohi there. I'm having very strange errors after shifting to dapper from breezy (which was shifted from hoary long time ago) - after installing 2.6.15-18 kernel it won't boot complaining about some doma_intr errors on hda (root) (DriveStatusError BadCRC).05:53
amishPoo05:53
chuckypportoport, yeah what I would do is enable universe and multiverse then install the package again05:53
tom_can someone help me with E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)05:53
tom_E: The list of sources could not be read.05:53
portoporti did enable universe and multiverse05:53
chuckypjaro, dapper discussion is in #ubuntu+105:54
ifeanyii see you05:54
chuckyptom_, use sudo apt-get install05:54
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cyroshmm how can i enable universe and multiverse05:54
ifeanyiand  I sent you a message05:54
chuckyptom_, err sudo apt-get update05:54
_payrokclick on that tab05:54
chuckyp!tell cyros about repos05:54
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cosmitahow do I found out how much ram does my voodoo banshee has?05:54
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cyrosthanks05:54
ifeanyii did05:54
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portoportchuckyp this is what i typed: apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev fakeroot debhelper libdb4.2-dev libgdbm-dev libldap2-dev libpcre3-dev libmysqlclient10-dev libssl-dev libsasl2-dev postgresql-dev po-debconf dpatch05:55
tom_i do apt-get update and get E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)05:55
_payrokifeanyigo ahead and send me your file05:55
portoportand i got that error05:55
evil_cowDetection version os X does not detect  'x700'directory05:55
portoportthe one i pasted05:55
_payrokifeanyi but don't just dump it in the channel05:55
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ifeanyii wont05:55
chuckyp!tell portoport about repos05:56
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tom_i do apt-get update and get E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)05:56
amishAlso every time i tun apt it come sup with like 10 of these05:56
chuckypportoport, that will explain universe and multivers its possible one of the packages you are trying to install is not in normal repos maybe in universe05:56
amishW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:56
chuckyptom_, correct your sources,list file05:56
ifeanyiam offering you to chat05:56
_payroktom_ use sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list      and look at line 5505:56
chuckyp!tell tom_ about repos05:56
ifeanyijust accept05:57
_payrokifeanyi i haven't seen a request05:57
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tom_chuckyp,thanks05:57
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chuckyptom_, np05:57
amish!tell amish about repos05:58
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_jasonamish: run 'sudo apt-get update'05:58
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amishOk ill let it work05:58
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ifeanyiit says you are leaving05:59
rnd_nullx tells me that my nvidia module is 1.0.7174 and that my x module is 1.0.8178 and that because they dont match it wont start gnome with that specific driver support...how do i fix this?05:59
amishHmm wlel i coudl use alot of help. Heres the problem. As soon as i had ubuntu my gain rarly worked. and neither did my internet. I figure dout i had a DNS error and was told to turn ipv6 off. I do so and gaim sitll dosnt work, nor can i access google. Yet i still apt get at high speeds06:00
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tom_i recently read an article on digg saying how to make speed 3 times faster on windows , is there a way to do this on linux06:01
chuckypamish, how are you connected to the net?06:01
novemcan anyone tell me how to change the background color (behind gnome splash screen) ?06:01
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wastrelyggdrasil:  i don't know anything about audacity sry06:01
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amishDSL06:01
chemajanovem: i think it's part of gdm06:02
chuckyptom_, what article?06:02
wastrelnovem:  you mean the boot up splash screen or the login screen06:02
chuckypamish, how are you connected to your dsl?  i.e. router then dsl modem?06:02
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tom_chuckyp,  1 minute06:02
chuckypamish, are you using dhcp06:02
novemno not the user/pass login, gnome bootsplash06:02
amishI am conneded with a vigor router and i do have DHCP06:02
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chuckyptom_, also when dapper comes out gnome 2.14 is a lot faster than the version you are running now just fyi.06:02
wastrelnovem search for usplash themes.  i just turned mine off...06:02
kryptografhow can i enable gnome for new user i have created with useradd?06:03
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chuckypamish, well is your computer pulling dns servers from the router and putting them in your resolv.conf?06:03
gopiHow to get the latest sources.list please ??06:03
_jasonkryptograf: just login with him06:03
chuckypkryptograf, they just log in06:03
tom_chuckyyp , forgor to add it was internet speed :P06:03
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portoportis ubuntu more like a debian distro?06:03
rnd_nulli need some help....less than one week using linux...06:03
jbroomethan windows?  yes.06:03
novemwastrel: i have the gnome splash screen manager, it only allows you to change the splash image not the solid background color, i think it might inherit that color from root, i remmember some command like xsetbg or..?06:03
chuckyptom_, oh internet speed increase?  well you will find nix is typically faster because you don't have all that quality of service garbage running.06:03
kryptograf_jason i have tried this, still the session termitates06:04
portoportand will this website manual works in ubuntu 5.10? http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier06:04
chuckyp!tell rnd_null about helpme06:04
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chuckyp!helpme06:04
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ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:04
amishchuckyp, i honstely dont know, Ive been using ubuntu for a mere 4 days now. The DNS is fine now but still google is a problem06:04
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amishDo you know how i can check this?06:04
tom_chuckyp , thanks again06:04
rnd_nullchuckyp, x tells me that my nvidia module is 1.0.7174 and that my x module is 1.0.8178 and that because they dont match it wont start gnome with that specific driver support...how do i fix this?06:04
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chuckypamish, well the dns isn't fine if google isn't working.06:04
wastrelnovem ok this is the gnome loading screen not the boot screen?  yes just change the background color, right-click on the desktop06:04
wastrelnovem:  it's the desktop background prefs06:04
Netercan anyone say me how to change the language in SquirrelMail?06:05
_jasonkryptograf: I use adduser instead of useradd, and gnome works fine06:05
novemahh sorry, thanks, I thought ide already tried that06:05
chuckyprnd_null, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx should resolve a lot of your problems?  did you try to install nvidia binaries from their site or something?06:05
novembut your right06:05
kryptograf_jason thank you06:05
cyroshmm ok i add multiverse trying installing samba and it saying the following packages have unresolvable dependencies...that just has to do with the server right?06:05
cyrosi would have to build from source is i wanna install it now right?06:05
rnd_nullchuckyp, yes, and i tried the other too, but i'll try again i guess, maybe i'll work this time06:06
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Neterthere is a menu in the SquirrelMail options, but it not work06:06
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amishchuckyp, i see what you mean06:06
chuckyprnd_null, yeah you don't typically need the driver from nvidia just use the one in the repos its known to work.06:06
amishAny ideas how i can check or fix this?06:06
|mp|anyone using tor/privoxy in dapper?? there is a problem with missing /var/run/tor dir and missing .pid file - googled no solutions to that..06:06
thegladiatorswiftfox is very fast06:06
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chuckypamish, cat /etc/resolv.conf  does that list your proper dns servers?06:07
rnd_nullchuckyp, i only tried that one because the synaptic one didn't work06:07
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chuckypamish, also I have no idea why they had you disable ipv606:07
sinboxhhello again06:07
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chuckyprnd_null, what do you mean didn't work what happened?06:07
sinboxmy syslog says no dhcpoffers received when i try to get onto the network, any idea what it might be?06:07
thomerzhi, will there be a continuous update-server for dapper like debian-sid, or only new software for 6 months?06:08
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HymnToLifesinbox> obviously you don't have a DHCP server running on your network06:08
amishi get this06:08
Neterhelp me, please06:08
rnd_nullchuckyp, x wont load and sometimes in extreme cases, i have to reset the bios to get any video at all...i think the driver may have a problem supporting pci-e as far as recycling video memory06:08
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amishamish@Tux:/$ cat /etc/resolv.conf06:08
amishdomain WORKGROUP06:08
amishnameserver 10.254.0.106:08
amishnameserver 10.254.0.106:08
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Neteror tell me where to read about this06:08
chuckyp rnd_null hrm...06:09
chuckyprnd_null, not really quite sure i've never really had issues with the nvidia-glx drivers but i'm agp06:09
portoport patch -p1 < ../postfix-2.1.5-trash.patch  <--will this command create a problem with ubuntu? cuz it's almost one minute now the shell prompt is not back06:09
rnd_nullchuckyp, i've noticed that most people are agp06:09
chuckyprnd_null, but to remove the version difference you'd have to remove the nvidia-kernel module that nvidia-glx installed then install the binarary drivers from nviida if you wanted to go that route.06:10
rnd_nullchuckyp, thats why i think its a pci-e problem06:10
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rnd_nullchuckyp, i'll just try synaptic agian06:10
rnd_nullchuckyp, i'll let you know in a few06:10
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amishI think my router didnt liek the Ip6 so someone told me to diable it. Since IP addresses connected fine the address wouldnt06:10
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ifeanyihey chuckyp can you help me configure my sound card06:11
rysiek|plyell'oh06:11
chuckyp!helpme06:11
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:11
holobytedis it possible to make synaptic/update-manager ignore certain packages for updating? (ie, linux kernel)06:11
ifeanyiok I used alsaconf06:11
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Stormx2Act! It keeps saying another synaptic/apt-get is running but its not! :(:(06:11
ifeanyiand this does not seem to work06:11
chuckypStormx2, ps aux | grep synaptic06:12
ifeanyiam trying to figure what drivers I need06:12
chuckypStormx2, ps aux | grep apt06:12
rob138!open-source06:12
uboturob138: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:12
chuckypifeanyi, what card do you have?06:12
ifeanyiSTAC 920006:12
Stormx2I get: barney    9930  0.0  0.0   2836   612 pts/0    R+   17:12   0:00 grep synaptic06:12
ifeanyisigma Tel06:12
chuckypStormx2, try the grep apt06:12
Stormx2barney    9940  0.0  0.0   1468   160 pts/0    R+   17:13   0:00 grep apt06:13
chuckypStorkme, that one that popped up is just the grep you ran06:13
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chuckypStormx2, yeah you don't have one running06:13
Stormx2chuckyp: So why does it say I have!06:13
Stormx2Whenever I try to use an apt tool :(06:13
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kryptografi have installed kadu recently (using apt-get), but i can't find it anywhere in gnome menu (even after gnome restart) - on fedora 3 it worked. If i run it from console it starts, but looks really awful (for example it have no polish letters), do you know why?06:13
chuckypStormx2, dunno what exact error are you getting06:13
sinbox!helpme  ??  my syslog says no dhcpoffers received when i try to get onto the network, any idea what it might be??06:13
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, sinbox06:13
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Neteris there anybody who see what i'm writing06:14
Stormx2Neter: No06:14
cyrosis there anything i could do about unmet dependencies E: broken packages?06:14
chuckypkryptograf, maybe you need a font and maybe it didn't add it to the applications panel.06:14
Neterhahaha ;)06:14
sinboxah oki, I'm trying to get tehe computer to connect to my modem/roputer06:14
chuckypNeter, no06:14
Stormx2chuckyp: I beat you to the joke! bwahahaha!06:14
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chuckypifeanyi, you get no sound at all or whats the problem?  and what distro are you using.06:14
ifeanyiUbuntu06:14
Neterand is there anybody who know anything about my problem06:15
chuckypifeanyi, breezy dapper hoary?06:15
ifeanyihoary 5.0406:15
kryptografchuckyp well, in other gnome apps polish fonts works good06:15
ifeanyiis  a new one06:15
sinboxubotu ah oki, I'm trying to get the computer to connect to my modem/router, it just won't do it06:15
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, sinbox06:15
chuckyp!squirrelmail06:15
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp06:15
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Stormx2sinbox: Ubotu is a bot :P06:15
sinboxgreat   :(06:16
chuckypNeter, i dunno maybe the squirrel mail channel?06:16
sinboxlol @ myself06:16
chuckypNeter, if they have one06:16
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Stormx2sinbox: No worries. What do you want to do? Connect you your router?06:16
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Neteroh, squirrel channel, thanx06:16
Stormx2sinbox: So you can get internet?06:16
amishwhere cna i get these06:16
amish  mplayer-k6: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable06:16
amish              Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or06:16
amish                       svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable06:16
chuckypkryptograf, i dunno never used kadu or whatever06:16
ifeanyiso  chuckyp06:16
chuckyp!tell amish about paste06:16
Stormx2Don't paste in here, amish06:16
Stormx2amish: Check the guide on mplayer06:17
Stormx2!mplayer06:17
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:17
chuckypamish, you probably need to enable multiverse and universe06:17
sinboxyes, I have no idea why it won't work, Stormx2, all the other machines do, but then they just run win2k or win9806:17
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maentywhich Bittorrent client is best for KDE?06:17
maentyI have installed KTorrent but I dont know how can I make it to open the torrent files automatically when I click torrent-link in Firefox06:17
tnerolfhello everybody06:17
noaXessbye all.. have a nice weekend..06:17
Stormx2sinbox: Go to System > Adminstration > Networking06:17
Stormx2noaXess: You too06:17
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kryptografhas anyone installed kadu sucessully on ubuntu?06:17
chuckypmaenty, isnt' there a torrent client installed by default?06:17
chuckyp!anyone06:18
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:18
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maentychuckyp: not that I know of...06:18
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Neterand what is the name of the squirrel mail channel06:18
ifeanyiso what do you suggest chuckyp06:18
nickrudamish, do you have marillat in your sources?06:18
chuckypmaenty, try clicking on a torrent link06:18
chuckypifeanyi, what is your problem no sound?06:18
ifeanyiyes06:18
amishnickrud, no what is it?06:18
Stormx2kryptograf: Not me. What is kadu?06:18
ifeanyiat all06:18
cyrosis there anything i could do about unmet dependencies...E: broken packages?06:18
chuckypifeanyi, I would try maybe searching the forums for your card.  Also making sure that its not muted.06:18
ifeanyii told you the card i have stac 920006:18
nickrudamish, a repository that gives errors similar to those.06:18
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sinboxi did Stormx2,  i enabled eth0  with the dhcp, but am not getting anywhere06:18
chuckypifeanyi, and what tyep of sound are you trying to play?06:19
kryptografStormx2 linux version of popular polish comunicator06:19
maentychuckyp: there is the "btdownloadgui" which I installed a moment ago, but that seems to suck06:19
Stormx2sinbox: Hmm. Can you ping your router?06:19
nickrud!tell amish about easysource06:19
Stormx2kryptograf: Ah yes06:19
Stormx2!kadu06:19
ubotuStormx2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:19
Stormx2Hmm06:19
tnerolfIs Somebody a newbie like me ????????????????????????????????????????????06:19
chuckypmaenty, i dunno search synaptic for torrent06:19
rnd_nullchuckyp, nope didn't work, i had to redo xorg.conf to get x to start06:19
_jasonkryptograf: there is a wiki page in polish somewhere... let me see06:19
ifeanyiat least any .,midi file06:19
nickrudamish, you almost certainly have something wrong in your sources.list, that link will build you a good one06:19
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Stormx2kryptograf: Is it in the repos?06:19
amishok thank you06:19
maentychuckyp: It opens a separate download window for each torrent.. I would like Firefox just to transfer the torrent to a better bt-client which then could open it06:19
Falstiusmaenty: azureus is pretty but also uses a lot of resources.06:19
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kryptografStormx2 You have to add ones, that are stated in Wiki06:19
maentychuckyp: However, this co-operation seems not to work with KTorrent at least06:19
prettohi there06:20
Stormx2kryptograf: OK, so what problem are you getting?06:20
maentyFalstius: I didn't find it in repositories06:20
prettocan anyone help me with ubuntu?06:20
Neter!squirrelmail06:20
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Neter06:20
Falstiusmaenty, are you running amd64?06:20
chuckypmaenty, well you might have to tell firefox to open the file with ktorrent06:20
Stormx2pretto: Depends whaty you want help with :P06:20
_jasonkryptograf: yeah, is http://www.kadu.net/wiki/index.php/English:Download:Ubuntu not working?06:20
maentyFalstius: yes06:20
_jasonubotu: kadu is http://www.kadu.net/wiki/index.php/English:Download:Ubuntu06:20
ubotuokay, _jason06:20
kryptograf_jason thnx06:20
maentychuckyp: I have told, but it still doesnt work06:20
prettoI just installed ubuntu on my notebook06:20
maentychuckyp: I have chosen "open with" and then chosen KTorrent from there, nothing happends06:21
Falstiusmaenty: yeah .. it isn't there for amd64, only 32bit.  I ended up just installing a 32bit chroot environment.06:21
prettoi sweeped windows XP off to learn linux06:21
ifeanyichuckyp ,did you find anything for me06:21
cyrosis there anything i could do about unmet dependencies...E: broken packages?06:21
Falstiuspretto, congrats06:21
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Falstiuscyros: did you try "sudo apt-get install -f"06:21
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sinboxStormx2  nope it doesn't seem to be pinging the router06:21
chuckypifeanyi, you want me to search the forums for you?06:21
prettoso.. as you can see.. i am an old user of windows systems since dos06:21
cyroshmm no i didnt, what does that do?06:22
jadams_can anyone tell me how to cat a file to my clipboard?06:22
slavikafter ubuntu boots, how can I get it to look for a second monitor?06:22
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prettoso i just decided to learn linux with some frustanting tryies06:22
Stormx2sinbox: Try configuring06:22
chuckypjadams_, hrm... highlight the contents of it.06:22
cyrosFalstius: i just did it, nothing06:22
Falstiuscyros: its supposed to find problems in the dependency tree.  That's what apt-get usually suggests you do when you have a broken dependency.06:22
ifeanyino  I meant check  up thr card06:22
rnd_nullpretto, what do you need help with?06:22
slavikStormx2: was that for me?06:22
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amishnickrud i get even more errror sthan i did before06:22
jadams_chuckyp: looking for a commandline option06:22
prettowell.. this time every thing seems to work ok.... i am enjoying the interface of ubuntu06:23
chuckypifeanyi, I was saying maybe search the ubuntu forums for that card or try some of the steps in the wiki for sound trouble shooting.06:23
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prettobut i downloaded some themes that i want to install06:23
prettobut i coundnt06:23
sinboxStormx2  sorry but configuring how or where?  dhcclient.conf?06:23
Stormx2sinbox: Go to "Static" IP and in the first box, enter any IP you want (e.g. 10.0.0.5), second enter 255.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.0 (whichever works) and in the third, enter your router's IP06:23
nickrudamish, could you paste your errors & sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:23
Stormx2sinbox: Use the networking tool06:23
Stormx2:P06:23
cyrosFalstius: reading and building Done 0 for everything06:23
rnd_nullpretto, yep, its nice, you couldn't install them? or you couldn't see them?06:23
sinboxI tried with static Ip and got nowhere either Stormx206:23
slavikHow can I get ubuntu to look for a second monitor after it booted to desktop?06:23
Stormx2slavik: No it wasn't06:24
Stormx2!dualscreen06:24
ubotuStormx2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:24
prettocan i open a private chat rnd_null?06:24
Falstiuscyros: what are you trying to do that gives you that problem?06:24
xxenonwhat's the maximum file size for a SMB mount ? 2Gb ?06:24
Stormx2!multiscreen06:24
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stormx206:24
nickrud!xinerama06:24
ubotuxinerama is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome06:24
Stormx2slavik: Search the wiki06:24
slavik!dualmonitor06:24
ubotuslavik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:24
slavikI tried06:24
amishnickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1040406:24
cyrosFalstius: install samba, sudo apt-get samba06:24
cyrosFalstius: install samba, sudo apt-get install samba06:24
amishshoudl i run sudo apt-get update?06:24
Falstiuscyros: samba should be installed by default ...06:24
Stormx2slavik: Check the ubuntuforums.org then06:24
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rnd_nullpretto, join #rnd_null06:25
nickrudamish, do apt-get update, as it says second to last line06:25
Stormx2amish: Why not? ;-)06:25
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Falstiusit gives you an unmet dependency error?06:25
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cyrosyea06:25
amishmy bad :P06:25
nickrud:)06:25
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wastrelyay06:25
Falstiuscyros, did you apt-get update?06:26
cyrosyea06:26
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Falstiuscyros: well, there does my ideas.06:26
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cyroswhen i open share folders in system admin, its says "sharing services are not installed and askes to use smb or nfs06:27
chuckypjadams_, still looking for an answer06:27
sinboxStormx2 I tried with static Ip and got nowhere either 100% loss06:27
polpakcyros, yes.. In order to share one of your directories you need to install a sharing protocol06:27
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ifvoidhi06:27
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cyrosi pick samba and it says could not apply changes Fix broken packages first06:27
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wech??06:28
jadams_chuckyp: yeah06:28
polpakcyros, try doing it manually via synaptic06:28
nickrudcyros, try sudo apt-get -f install06:28
jadams_I was googling, can't find it06:28
ifvoidI'm having some trouble with network-manager and nm-applet in dapper06:28
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ifvoidit says: ** (nm-applet:28182): WARNING **: <WARNING>       (): nmwa_dbus_init() could not acquire its service.  dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.5" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file'06:28
amishAlso in my grub menu i have about 8 different options, 6 linux ones and 2 Windows XP Professional ones, 1 of which dosnt work. How cna i get rid of the ones i dont need06:28
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chuckypjadams_, yeah i'm googling too.06:28
Stormx2cyros: Have you checked the wiki?06:28
Stormx2!samba06:28
ubotuwell, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:28
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jadams_chuckyp: all I need is a shell input into the gnome clipboard or xclipboard06:28
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jadams_but xclipboard itself tries to run a new instance (I tried cat foo | xclipboard first)06:29
Spliffsterhigh folks. how is inetd started/stopped on ubuntu, i cant find scripts in /etc/init.d .... this dapper flight 406:29
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nickrudamish, try removing the kernels you don't want, then run sudo grub-update06:29
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Spliffstercorrection flight 5 now06:29
Spliffstertest pffff ... 1. ... 2 .... 3 ..... is there anybody out ... problems or is it just tha quiet ?06:29
opterHi everyone.06:29
Blippehi there opter06:29
amishnicred, how do i remove the kernels?06:29
chuckypjadams_, yeah are you using kde?06:29
jadams_chuckyp: gnome06:30
chuckypjadams_, well I found a shell script to do it with kde and klip06:30
termitorhello ubuntu, i love you :-) from france06:30
cyrosStormx2: yea i cant get past the install part lol06:30
jadams_aww06:30
nickrudamish, in synaptic06:30
chuckypjadams_, http://72.14.203.104/linux?q=cache:oZSf59YMWdcJ:www.linuxgazette.com/node/9047+copying+to+clipboard&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5  let me keep looking though06:30
G0SUBcafuego: ping06:30
sinbox!loadsamoney06:30
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sinbox06:30
polpakSpliffster, have you actually installed inetd ?06:30
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chuckypG0SUB, pong06:30
nadjylahello06:30
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G0SUBchuckyp: heh, my packet got routed to some other box ?06:31
Stormx2cyros: try re-create your sources.list.06:31
Stormx2!tell cyros about easysource06:31
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wechfrench ?06:31
chuckypjadams_, yeah I dunno  maybe adapt that link to xclipboard if it will handle the arguments.06:31
amishokies06:31
polpak!fr06:31
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:31
termitorwech, yes !06:31
wechok ubuntu fr !06:32
wechbye06:32
wechthanks06:32
jadams_chuckyp: cool...I'd be able to do it if I just knew how to use xclipboard06:32
Spliffsterpolpak: i just found out that it wasn't ... thanx. i expected it to be there like in any other distor and since /etc/inetd.conf was present i idin't bother to check06:32
jadams_but the man helps me none in adding things to the clipboard06:32
nickrudamish, type uname -r in a terminal, that's the one thats currently running, and the one you want to keep06:32
raboof-so if glxgears shows gears that means opengl accelleration works? or is it not that simple?06:32
polpakSpliffster, ubuntu doesn't install any daemons that listen to the outside world by default06:32
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polpakSpliffster, it makes it easier security wise.. It's intended to be more of a workstation distro06:33
Spliffsterpolpak: makes absolutely sense on a desktop ... was just a bit unexpected for me06:33
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rob138hi, i just installed kde-core, booted into kde to try it out, went back to gnome, and now none of my panels in gnome load, they say a panel is already running... whats wrong?06:33
HappyFoolraboof-: glxinfo|grep direct should print out this: direct rendering: Yes06:33
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GTXWhats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu06:34
Dr_WillisGTX,  I tend to ssh in and run 'vncserver' manually06:34
amishalso Mplayer crashe don me somehow06:34
amishcna i cant get rid of it06:35
GTXDr_Willis, na theres a built in one which works well06:35
raboof-HappyFool, hmm, unfortunately it doesnt say anything about direct rendering ;~)06:35
Dr_Willisif you are allreayd logged into gnome - you can start  shareiing the current desktop with vino (i think) or in the menus06:35
HappyFoolraboof-: what video card do you have?06:35
nickrudrob138, I've run into that; open system->prefs->Sessions, and look through current session ; see if there are two gnome-panels listed06:35
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Dr_WillisGTX,  i did NOT find the built in one - 'worked well' it was nasty slow.06:35
rob138nickrud, at the login screen?06:36
chuckypDr_Willis, you should be able to share it if you are already logged in.06:36
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raboof-HappyFool, I think its an ATI 12806:36
cyrosStormx2: so this Source list gen the first two are official like what would come with the fresh install?06:36
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Dr_Willischuckyp,  i did - and it was much slower then a real 'vncserver' session i found.06:36
GTXWhats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu06:36
Stormx2cyros: Yeah06:36
nickrudrob138, or, clt-alt-f1 , log in, and type killall gnome-panel06:36
chuckypGTX, vnclient or something like that?06:36
_jasonamish: killall mplayer06:36
GTXgrr chuckyp06:37
HappyFoolraboof-: have you read the ATI page on the ubuntu wiki ?06:37
GTXthe server one06:37
GTXpffft06:37
raboof-HappyFool, no, not yet, ill try to find them06:37
HappyFool!tell raboof- about ati06:37
amish_jason, no process killed even though i can see its still up and running06:37
_jasonamish: killall gmplayer06:38
thefishGTX: you want to be able to log in to the ubuntu box?06:38
thefishor you want to log in to another box from ubuntu?06:38
GTXthefish, I want to let someone else see my desktop thefish06:38
GTXBut Its not the menu where it should be06:38
chuckypGTX, dpkg -l vnc06:38
GTXso I need the command line for it06:38
thefishGTX: open a console and type "vncserver :1"06:38
cyrosStormx2: i checked both update and security and both packages and sources and for the country code US ??06:38
GTXI dont have vncserver06:38
thefishright06:39
rob138nickrud, thanks06:39
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svuanyone knows who maintains gnome-applets in ubuntu?06:39
nickrudrob138, yw happened to me yesterday for some reason06:39
obli!mouse06:39
ubotumouse is, like, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev06:39
thefishGTX: install it?06:39
amishnope06:39
Dr_WillisGTX,  try 'vino'06:39
thefishgood luck06:39
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GrarkHi Everybody!06:39
Grark:P06:40
boss_in_actionhi aal06:40
Blippeis it possible to install ubuntu to a nfs-drive?06:40
opterHI!06:40
GrarkI come asking for help so much, thought I'd just pop in and say hellop06:40
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_jasonamish: ps aux | grep mplayer, what turns up?06:40
smoBlippe, if the install CD won't do it, debootstrap will install ubuntu to just about anything you can mount06:40
tahooieI have a gefore6200 with two video outs, and want to do dual monitors. I've found docs on using twinview, and Xinorama, does anyone know which approach is the most painless?06:41
cyrosStormx2: i checked both update and security and both packages and sources and for the country code US ?? good?06:41
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amishubotu chuckyp wants you to know: Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.06:41
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, amish06:41
chuckyptahooie, just folllow the wiki for twinview06:41
chuckyp!tell tahooie about twinview06:41
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GrarkOh man06:41
Blippesmo, i feared that would be the answer... no change for dapper? :] 06:41
Grarkmy problem is back06:41
Grarkapps "disappearing"06:41
chuckypamish, yeah use that site to paste terminal data rather than flooding the channel06:41
Grark:(06:42
GrarkNow it's firefox06:42
amishya sorry06:42
cyrosStormx2: u did it man !! it looks like its gonna work now, your the man now dog http://www.yourethemannowdog.com06:42
GrarkNevermind06:42
chuckypGrark, what do you mean apps disapearing?06:42
Grarkchuckyp, my bad.06:42
smoBlippe: I'm not that uptodate with dapper.  just happen to use debootstrap on a regular basis06:42
Grarkit was in another virtual space.06:42
amish_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1040606:42
GrarkHAHAH!06:42
_jasonamish: killall -9 mplayer06:43
_jasonamish: oops make that gmplayer :)06:43
amishthankyou06:43
sas171Hi, I installed Cairo engine and Cairo-GTK-Clearlooks as written in the forum, but as I try to use Cairo-enabled-theme im geting unthemed desktop, any ideas?06:43
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amishmay i ask what the -9 was for?06:43
tahooiechuckyp, was a bot supposed to message me the link to that wiki?06:43
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chuckyptahooie, yeah06:43
Blippesmo, i was hoping not to have to create a custom kernel, i guess no such luck... :D thansk for the answers!06:44
[A] ndy80I modified my /etc/profile adding some EXPORT=..... how can I "reload" the profile without having to reboot my system?06:44
yggdrasilanyone else here runnign a dell c40006:44
chuckyptahooie, hold up let me find it for ya06:44
tahooiethanks06:44
_jasonamish: sends a KILL signal.  'man kill'06:44
nickrudamish, to kill with extreme prejudice, don't wait for nothing06:44
Dr_Willis. /etc/profile06:44
raboof-HappyFool, looks like that is about the Radeon models, and I have a Rage instead06:44
slava_06:44
Dr_Willisor is it  'source /etc/profile'06:44
HappyFool[A] ndy80: how about logging out and in? (can't remember under what precise conditions /etc/profile is read)06:44
portoportwhat are the common letter code of any USA countries or states?06:45
amishok06:45
_jasonamish: yeah kill -9 is a last resort06:45
amishokies06:45
g0dchildhow do i make a windows machine on the network to get access to the internet through a gateway on which ubuntu is installed?06:45
HappyFoolraboof-: hmm. i'm not a graphics expert, sorry06:45
chuckyptahooie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut06:45
tahooiethanks chuckyp06:45
_jasonDr_Willis: equivalent06:45
raboof-HappyFool, ok, thanks for the help nonetheless06:45
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amishso i run this command wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb but it does it stuff but the last line is Permission Deined06:46
jadams_does anyone know where a good howto is for upgrading breezy to gnome 2.14, or has anyoen done it?06:47
_jasonamish: put exactly what you did and what the output was on pastebin please06:47
jadams_I can't afford any pain at this point, as I'm mid-startup...06:47
Blippejadams_ i would wait for the final dapper, it is so close...06:47
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portoporti have added many deb lines in my sources.list but still i cant find any installer for unarj06:47
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wastrelarj06:48
suportedaeee galera06:48
wastrelarj is in universe06:48
amish_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1040706:48
jadams_Blippie: another full month!06:48
suportedai cara06:48
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wastrel2 months06:48
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portoportwastrel unarj06:49
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michal_cze wam06:49
HappyFoolportoport: how about the plain old arj package?06:49
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michal_po poolsku kto gada?06:49
_jasonamish: 'cd' and try again.  You don't have permission in /06:49
GTXWhats the command to open the remote desktop vnc thing built into ubuntu06:49
wastrel!pl06:49
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl06:49
portoportok done install arj and unarj06:50
portoportthanks06:50
amishthank you06:50
amishagain06:50
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amishi got a feeeling ill be spending a lot of time in here06:50
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chuckypamish, did you figure it out?06:51
jadams_GTX: rdesktop?06:51
amishfigure what out?06:51
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chuckypamish, your problem?  with dns?06:52
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GTXjadams_, Im looking for the program, its normaly in System -> Administration -> Remote Desktop ( I think ) can you get the link to what it uses please06:52
chuckypGTX, yeah hold up06:52
Gambit-anyone know how to resolve "java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no Serial in java.library.path"?06:52
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jadams_GTX: I just told you... rdesktop06:53
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opterGTX: do you mean Terminal Server Client?06:53
GTXNo opter06:53
jadams_oh06:53
jadams_heh...not rdesktop06:53
GTXjadams_, it doesnt launch the gui..06:53
amishChuckyp nope google still not workign and internet seems to still be slow a bit but only on browsing06:53
jadams_GTX: it's in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop, btw, not Administration06:54
Spliffsterhmmm, after installing inetd i started it. starting failed without an error message, i have no log file ... any hint ?06:54
chuckypGTX, vino-server06:54
g0dchildGuys, so how do i get a windows machine to access the internet through an ubuntu gateway?06:54
jadams_but that's jsut the config for it06:54
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jadams_the app is in Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Services Client06:54
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jadams_err, Server06:54
HymnToLifeg0dchild> search the wiki for Internet COnnection Sharing06:54
opteror tsclient06:55
GTXcharlie@host-82-136-48-134:/usr/share/applications$ vino-server06:55
GTXbash: vino-server: command not found06:55
GTXcharlie@host-82-136-48-134:/usr/share/applications$06:55
GTXchuckyp,06:55
wastrelg0dchild:  you're going to need to set up NAT on the gateway device.  i've never done it, so don't ask me how - check ubuntu forums mebby.06:55
GTX^06:55
jadams_GTX: tsclient06:55
chuckypGTX, the system>preferences>remote desktop is running vino-server thats what you asked06:55
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wastrelg0dchild:  maybe search for connection sharing.06:55
GTXchuckyp, Im not running gnome06:55
chuckypGTX, ahhh06:55
jadams_aha06:55
GTXjadams_, not terminal server client im trying to host the server jesus06:55
chuckyplol06:55
plhi@all06:55
opterhi pl06:55
Spliffsteraaaaahhhhhhh i really love the new log viewer in gnome, it rocks!06:56
GTXchuckyp, when I type vino-server in command it does ntohing06:56
GrarkOk got another question.  Is there a graphical app that will handle multi-part rar's?06:56
chuckypGTX, thats what gnome is launhing but you said you are not using gnome.06:56
plHave anyone expirience in Xgl with ATI Graphics?06:56
amishapt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache06:56
Spliffsterhelp anyone ? i have installed inetd, started it ... it failed with no error message. there is no inetd log file and no message to syslog06:57
yggdrasilhey guys06:57
chuckypGTX, vino-preferences maybe06:57
GrarkOr anyone know how to add a command to be able to be accessed globally?06:57
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g0dchildalright, wastrel i'll try06:57
jadams_GTX: then I'll shup06:57
chuckypGTX, the only things running when I click on that are vino-preferences and vino-server06:57
wastrelg0dchild:  the first google result for "connection sharing ubuntu" looks promising06:57
GTXI found it06:58
amishapt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache ideas?06:58
GTX/usr/bin/vino-server06:58
GTX/usr/bin/vino-preferences06:58
GTXetc06:58
_jasonGrark: your first question: rar command, example: rar x file1.rar (or whatever the first part is called)06:58
wastrelGrark:  i'm not sure what you mean, add what sort of command?06:58
plHave anyone expirience in Xgl with ATI Graphics?06:58
chuckypwastrel, you expect someone to search the internet?  pffft06:58
wastrel!xgl06:58
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/06:58
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Spliffsterhas anyone in here found a decent gtk(++/2) cvs client or a nautilus plugin (which would be best for me) ?06:58
yggdrasilim having a problem with my 82811ca/cam ac'97 audio controller rev02 on my dell c400 laptop.. it works but then it stops working and i cant seem to get any pcm audio out of it..06:59
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yggdrasilis ther alsaconf in  ubuntu?06:59
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chuckypyggdrasil, yesh alsaconfig alsamixer etc...06:59
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chuckypyggdrasil, alsactl06:59
Grark_jason, wastrel, I downloaded winrar for linux....if I put it in the \etc dir, will I be able to execute it from my home dir?06:59
_jasonGrark: put it somewhere in your path.  /usr/local/bin is a good choice imo07:00
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opterif the /etc is in your path07:00
Grark_jason, I was hoping for a gui, but command line is good.07:00
zercoszHi07:00
Grark_jason, "in my path?"07:00
wastrelexecutables don't belong in /etc   yeah /usr/local/bin  normally07:00
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yggdrasilchukkyp im getting a cmd not found when i run alsaconfi07:00
plI've tried it with 3 manuals from the german ubuntu forum, but it doesn't work! When I start the Xgl it comes up, but it stays black und the  mouse icon is "busy" -> anyone an idea?07:00
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_jasonGrark: when you type in a command, bash looks in the folders in your PATH.  You can see the value of PATH with 'echo $PATH'07:00
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chuckypyggdrasil, yeah i'm sorry thats not there i'm in dapper though but there is alsamixer07:01
chuckypyggdrasil, try type alsa and hitting tab twice see what your optoins are07:01
Grarkok I'll put it in/usr/local/bin07:01
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Grarkthanks!07:01
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wastrelGrark:  /etc is mostly for config files07:02
amish_jason, apt-get cache messenger i get E: Invalid operation cache ideas?07:02
plcya07:02
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yggdrasilwow that wierd tab tab ?07:02
_jasonamish: what are you trying to do?07:02
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GrarkAny Howto that explains linux file structures?07:02
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Grarkso a noobie and understand?07:03
chuckypyggdrasil, tab auto completes.  i.e if you type cd /ho  and hit tab it will type in /home for you.07:03
amishmy friend said that cache search for all the avalible packages07:03
chuckypGrark, check on tldp07:03
chuckypGrark, www.tldp.org07:03
_jasonamish: apt-cache search packagename07:03
amishohhh ok07:03
GrarkWill do, thank you07:03
_jasonubotu: tell Grark about dirs07:03
yggdrasilwell i odnt know it sseems like the drivers not working07:04
yggdrasilit works fine07:04
pppoe_dudecan people on windows computers view postscript files without installing anything?07:04
gnomefreakamish: apt-cache search messenger07:04
yggdrasilon boot then it wont work when i start up anyting that tries to use pcm...07:04
Grark_jason, thanks again.07:04
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nickrudpppoe_dude, I needed to get gsview to see postscript07:05
Grarkone last stupid question that will make reading in a terminal easier....what' the command to put in PAUSES?07:05
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Grarkat the end of every page?07:05
pppoe_dudenickrud, do you know if acrobat reader can view postscript?07:05
yggdrasilgrark | more07:05
timoyhello...07:05
wastrelGrark:  use less , it's a pager07:05
chuckypGrark, well there is | less  or you use | more os it pauses.07:05
Grarkwastrel, ?07:05
_jasonGrark: put '| more', or '| less' after the command07:06
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Grarkless is more?07:06
Grark:P07:06
chuckypGrark, no07:06
nickrudpppoe_dude, I don't remember precisely, but I probably wouldn't have gotten gsview if it does.07:06
wastrelless is better than more07:06
yggdrasili like more07:06
gnomefreakmore is more than less07:06
yggdrasilits simple07:06
pppoe_dudenickrud, ok thanks07:06
_jasonand then there is most...07:06
chuckypGrark, i.e. cat blah.txt | more    then it will pause at the end of every page07:06
yggdrasiloh god07:06
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opterHi lain34!!!07:06
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GrarkPerfect!  Now if you'll all excuse me I can finally READ when I get help on commands ;P07:06
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chuckypGrark, less is the opposite of more07:07
wastrelchuckyp:  cat foo.txt | cat | cat | cat | less07:07
alcanal07:07
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chuckypGrark, man less to read the help file or man more to see the documentation.  but definately check out tldp.org lot of good docs there.07:07
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cK-gLocKi need abit of help07:08
cK-gLocKits a bit of a complex question07:08
_jasoncK-gLocK: just ask :)07:08
gnomefreakcK-gLocK: ask it if someone knows they will try to help07:08
Grarktruth be told, I like the human touch to point me in the right direction.  Once there I can figure it out most times.07:08
cK-gLocKk now listen i have 3 partitions 1 with xp 32bit, 64bit and ubuntu 5.1007:08
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cK-gLocKi want to delete my old 32bit partition07:08
chuckypGrark, some of the best things to learn are apropos and man -k  so you can find commands for what you want. i.e. apropos format  would print out a list of commands with short descriptions.07:08
cK-gLocKand keep 64bit windows and ubuntu07:08
_jasoncK-gLocK: keep it on one line or else it will get hard to follow07:08
cK-gLocKk sorry lol07:09
GrarkIt's one of the reasons I decided to switch full time to linux.  The Help you guys give.07:09
cK-gLocKbut yea07:09
cK-gLocKim planning on deleteing my 32bit partition right07:09
gnomefreakgparted can delete a partition07:09
chuckypGrark, and remember you can scroll back in terminal with page up key.07:09
wastrelshift-pageup07:09
cK-gLocKand keep 64bit and im gonna upgrade to ubuntu dapper drake flight 507:09
wastrelsometimes07:09
Grarkchuckyp, I know I can scroll, but it still makes it a lot easier to read with the one page at a time piep07:09
cK-gLocKi wantto split my hd into like 207:10
cK-gLocKits a 250gb drive07:10
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cK-gLocKi want atleast 120gb each partition07:10
chuckypcK-gLocK, okay which partition has the mbr?07:10
chuckypcK-gLocK, or which partition did you install first?07:10
cK-gLocKi installed 32bit xp first07:10
cK-gLocKthen i got 64bit xp dualbooted07:10
chuckypcK-gLocK, and do you care abouttht edata?07:10
cK-gLocKlater on i got linux07:10
ohoeldoes anyone know of an application that can make a png/jpg of the first page of *.pdf07:10
cK-gLocKwell thats why im copying it over07:10
_jasonohoel: gimp07:10
ohoel_jason: as a batch operation?07:11
cK-gLocKim in windows now using a reiserfs system driver in windows to get my stuff07:11
cK-gLocKand put it on my warez drive07:11
portoportmail postfix/smtpd[19707] : fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit07:11
cK-gLocKthen im gonna move on with everything07:11
portoporthow do i solve that one?07:11
wastrelgimp has a scripting interface, but i've never used it :] 07:11
chuckypcK-gLocK, well you could just delete the 32bit windows then install dapper on the third partition and hopefully grub will pick up the windows 64bit and the hoary install.07:11
cK-gLocKbut i want to make sure i dont mess my 64bit xp up07:11
_jasonohoel: hrmm don't know... probably since you can script stuff in gimp07:11
portoportdoes the mail server have to be registered dmain?07:11
h36sahi.. I was removing services from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d and after I rebooted, I got X errors about my mouse being missing.. so I check and notice that udev doesn't seem to be working. the udev entry is still in /etc/rcS.d ... I restart udev, restart gdm and now everything is fine.. what should I check?07:11
cK-gLocKyea cuz im taking the hoary off07:11
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cK-gLocKand im just gonna go flight5 dapper07:11
Frogzooportoport: if you want to receive net mail, yes07:11
cK-gLocKu can play q4 in dapper right?07:11
ohoel_jason: thanks, I'll try.. hope there's a python interface ;)07:11
cK-gLocKgames work fine right07:12
h36sachuckyp, don't recommend x64 windows to people07:12
h36sait's pretty awful07:12
cK-gLocKlol07:12
cK-gLocKi like it07:12
cK-gLocKits nice for me07:12
chuckypcK-gLocK, oh well then just delete what ever partitions you want to delete as long as you don't touch the xp partition that you want to keep you won't have a problem.07:12
cK-gLocKbut windows still sucks07:12
ohoelcK-gLocK: yes, you can play games in dapper07:12
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cK-gLocKk cool07:12
wastrelohoel:  i think it's scheme07:12
GrarkHmm...ok so where would I be able to modify the $PATH07:12
Grark?07:12
ohoelwastrel: scheme?07:12
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chuckypcK-gLocK, yeah I'm pretty sure quake is released for linux and windows side by side.07:12
cK-gLocKi want to get rid of my 25gb ubuntu 5.10 and basically format that space get rid of the partition.07:12
wastrelohoel:  the script language for gimp07:12
cK-gLocKpartition07:13
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ohoelwastrel: oh no ;/07:13
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cK-gLocKand just split the drives in half 120gb 120gb07:13
_jasonwastrel: it has python too I think07:13
cK-gLocKshould i use the partitioner while installing the new ubuntu dpaper drake?07:13
cK-gLocKor should i do it while im in windows07:13
wastrelk.  native is scheme, i imagine there's plugins for others :] 07:13
slewHi. can anyone tell me how to get DRI enabled?07:13
cK-gLocKgparted is in ubuntu?07:13
BlippecK-gLocK in the installer07:13
cK-gLocKoh ok nice07:13
wastrelslew:  nvidia or ati07:13
cK-gLocKk well just lemem copy my stuff over whatever i need/want07:13
slewwastrel, nvidia07:14
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cK-gLocKand imma move on with the mission07:14
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chuckypcK-gLocK, yeah back up everything you are worried about.07:14
BlippecK-gLocK dapper discussions go in #ubuntu+107:14
wastrel!tell slew about nvidia07:14
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amishun my grub menu.lst file if i delete some optionw will it mess up my loader07:14
slewwastrel, i've already done those pages, and it still tells me dri is not enabled07:14
wastrelwellsir i can't help you then, i've got ati :] 07:15
amishin*07:15
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amishI have 2 window XP's 1 whcih dosnt work cna i remve the 5 or 6 lines07:15
chuckypcK-gLocK, what is quake 4 the newest quake they have a linux demo out you could try on hoary if you are not sure.07:15
vgxoi07:15
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_jasonohoel: the convert command may work too but you will have to do some more research to verify that.  But if it does it may be easier to do what you are trying07:15
TiberianGuys, how can i "su" ? i type in term. mode "su" but i get an error07:16
cK-gLocKi got the full game07:16
thegladiatorsudo07:16
cK-gLocKi set it up in ubuntu 5.10 but i got it working np07:16
thegladiatorsudo -u07:16
cK-gLocKshouldnt be hard in dapper07:16
Tiberianuh Dozo :D07:16
slewwastrel, thanks.07:16
thegladiatorsudo -i07:16
cyrosthanks guys07:16
chuckypamish, just back up your old menu.1st incase i.e. cp /boot/grub/menu.1st /boot/grub/menu.1st.old or something07:16
thegladiatorTiberian, sudo -i07:16
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chuckypcK-gLocK, no shouldn't be any different07:16
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h36sahmmm... could anyone paste a relatively default breezy /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d list of symlinks to me07:16
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ohoel_jason: that's provided by imagemagick isn't it? thanks mate07:17
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yanchenghi, anyone had experience with setting cvs server here?07:17
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h36saI just need to see which ones were there :) looks like evms was probably required07:17
amishYa but if i mess it up. How can i get it back07:17
_jasonohoel: yeah07:17
Grark_jason, where can I specifiy the $path?07:17
Tiberianthegladiator, thanks :)07:17
chuckypamish, worst case boot off of a cd mount the drive and overwrite the original with the backup then restart.07:17
timoyguys, im trying to create my own livecd using the steps found in the wiki... what i wan't to do is to remove some packages to make the iso smaller.... but how?07:17
_jasonfor whom07:17
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_jasonGrark: for whom?07:17
thegladiatoryw07:17
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Grark_jason, for whom?07:18
chuckyptimoy, what wiki?07:18
rinkeHee07:18
Grark_jason, I need to add a dir to the PATH07:18
_jasonGrark: your user, everyone?07:18
GrarkAhh sorry07:18
timoyin the ubuntu wiki... the livecdcustomizationhowto07:18
Grark_jason, need to remember this is linux and secure....for everyone.07:18
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amishchuckyp, true07:18
Grarkbut I'd settle just for me right now since I'm the only user on here.07:19
_jasonGrark: it gets set in /etc/login.defs, you can add something there.07:19
Grarkdoes this mean I have to logout and in again?07:19
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_jasonGrark: do you want this to be permanent?07:19
Grark_jason, yes07:19
Tiberianand how can i see the processes of a User ? ( ps -u [username]  ? )07:20
amishchuckyp, do i need memtest 86+ or my kernels recovery console?07:20
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timoychuckyp, im following the "livecdcustomizationhowto" found in the ubuntu wiki.07:20
NsOmNiAcTiberian you can ps aux | grep usernamej07:21
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_jasonGrark: ok setting it there will only add it in gnome.  Not if you login to a tty, that gets set in /etc/profile.  You can use the command 'export PATH = $PATH:/new/directory' to add a directory to your path in your current terminal and everything it spawns07:21
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robinl1I use GDM, what can i use as xinitrc?07:21
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TiberianNsOmNiAc, ty :)07:22
NsOmNiAcnp07:22
GrarkVery cool.07:23
amish??07:23
GrarkThank you.07:23
PuppiesOnAcidIs it possible to put songs on my iPod shuffle through Rhythm box?07:23
Stormx2!ipod07:23
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto07:23
Stormx2No07:23
chuckyprobin_, .gnomerc?07:23
bluefoxicynot yet07:23
Stormx2apparently07:23
Stormx2:P07:23
bluefoxicyPuppiesOnAcid:  check the bugs.gnome.org bugzilla and file for Rhythmbox07:23
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chuckypStormx2, you not making the jump?07:24
bluefoxicythey're little interested in doing such a thing, I think it's important that the same console used for management of the music collection be used for the ipod07:24
ubersolidshould i download dapper now, or wait for the release? :)07:24
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wastrelubersolid:  are you an experienced linux user?07:24
Falstiusubersolid: do it now, install XGL, and fix it so that when I install dapper I don't have to suffer :)07:25
Stormx2chuckyp: Hmm?07:25
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amishDo i need a memtest in my grub menu?07:25
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ubersolidwastrel: I like to think so07:25
h36saPuppiesOnAcid, amaroK and gtkpod both work well07:25
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wastrelubersolid:  if you're comfortable running the unstable pre-release go ahead.  :] 07:25
Stormx2ubersolid: Your choice, but you gotta except some breakage07:25
wastrelamish:  best to keep it in there07:26
amishhmm ok07:26
chuckypStormx2, jump to dapper07:26
Stormx2chuckyp: Thinking about it...07:26
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chuckypamish, Its up to you.  I removed mine don't plan on my memory dying any time soon.07:26
ubersolidwastrel: what kind of breakage? i need my multimedia experience to work :)07:26
amishchucky is it for ram memory or harddrive memory?07:27
wastrelan update broke gnome pretty good a couple weeks ago07:27
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chuckypubersolid, it could break at anytime.07:27
h36saamish, ram07:27
wastrelati dri stuff has been troublesome07:27
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amishi guess i probably wont need it07:27
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h36saamish, and most *nix livecds have a memtest option.. might as well take it out07:27
youBun2hi folks07:27
jachupdate to dapper from breezy howto?07:27
youBun2i'm not sure if any of you had read my post on the forum07:28
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chuckypI think the memtest is a stupid option.  How often does memory go bad and why can't you just use a live cd and test it.  Pretty dumb in my eyes.07:28
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rysiek|plhello you all07:28
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chuckypso I remove it.07:28
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amishok thats h36sa07:28
mac__hi07:28
youBun2...07:28
chuckypjach, if you have to ask you probably shouldn't do it.07:28
amishthanks*07:28
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Stormx2jach: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all "breezy" with "dapper", then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:28
TiberianIs there a way so Ubuntu can read my NTFS Drives ?07:28
linuxhelphello @ all07:28
rysiek|plhas anybody seen a working WakeOnLan on Ubuntu? :)07:28
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ubersolidchuckyp: guess I'll wait then :)07:28
rysiek|plTiberian: yep07:28
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Stormx2Tiberian: Read, yes.07:29
MetaMorfoziS!xnview07:29
ubotuMetaMorfoziS: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:29
polpak!tell Tiberian about ntfs07:29
chuckypStormx2, jach well you need apt-get update first before that.07:29
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h36saTiberian, there's ntfs read support in the kernel07:29
rysiek|plStormx2: write too, actually :)07:29
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Tiberianoh.. loooool! :P07:29
linuxhelpdoes anyone know to option for live cd "toram"07:29
jachthank! Stormx207:29
prettodid i see someone speaking portuguese here?07:29
chuckypjach, or you could "sudo sed -i -e 's/breezy/dapper/' /etc/apt/sources.list07:29
polpakpretto, I shouldn't think so07:29
Stormx2rysiek|pl: Ooh write? Yeah you can do that... but its not particularly reliable eh?07:29
amishalso woudl i need a recovery console07:29
polpakpretto, there's a separate channel for portuguese07:29
prettoi saw somene speaking07:29
youBun2i need some help07:30
rysiek|plStormx2: not when you're using Captive :] 07:30
chuckyp!helpme07:30
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:30
youBun2i'm unable to read my sda2 partition which is of ntfs07:30
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pretto* is a system message?07:30
youBun2and unable to boot XP anymore07:30
polpak!tell youBun2 about ntfs07:30
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rysiek|plStormx2: captive uses... the original M$ drivers and setups a compatibility layer between them and the kernel :)07:30
h36sawhat runlevel does breezy default to?07:30
chuckyp!tell youBun2 about grub07:30
prettopolpak.... can you tell me the portuguese room?07:30
polpak!pr07:30
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak07:30
thegladiatorthe system becomes very slow while copying files from cd07:30
pretto!pr07:30
polpakum.07:30
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thegladiatordo you feel the same?07:31
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rysiek|pl!pt07:31
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:31
polpakah07:31
polpakthx rysiek|pl07:31
rysiek|pl:)07:31
youBun2hm.07:31
thegladiatoror it it me ?07:31
lafferptusing a continue inside a for loop shoudn't go to the begining of the loop ignoring the code below?07:31
prettothank you polpak07:31
John00!pastebin07:31
amish?07:31
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chuckyplafferpt, well it would keep doing the for until blah is satisfied07:31
amishDo i need a revovary console?07:31
MetaMorfoziS!firefox1.507:32
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:32
chuckypamish, I would leave that there incases you need to fix something.07:32
Stormx2rysiek|pl: I see. That in the repos?07:32
wastrelyay07:32
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chuckypamish, but that can also be done form a cd.  But I leave mine in.  You can put whatever you want int there.07:32
youBun2Folks, I created a partition of 10 GB for Ubuntu. The remaining partition of 190GB has XP on it07:32
chuckypwastrel, yay/07:32
amishok07:32
youBun2Since installation of Ubuntu I CANNOT access XP07:32
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chuckypyouBun2, read the message from ubotu07:32
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gravesoncan anyone help me to decode the xorg.log file.i am having problems installing the ATI driver07:33
chuckyp!tell graveson about ati07:33
youBun2i have read the message07:33
amishRight im gogin to boot into windows, a) because gaim wont work and b) because i do07:33
John00could someone help me with repsoitrioes... here is screenshot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1040807:33
chuckypyouBun2, well click on the link for restoring your xp mbr07:33
youBun2cheers07:33
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chuckyp!tell John00 about repos07:34
youBun2thank you07:34
chuckypyouBun2, np07:34
gravesonchuckyp: i have been through the procedures on that page ,and just cannot get the adapter to function07:34
ubersolidati working in breezy: use easy ubuntu or automatix, really simple07:34
rysiek|plStyrmx2: nope, but just google for captive ntfs and you'll get it07:34
rysiek|plStormx2: ^^^07:34
chuckypgraveson, can't get it to function?  meaning that your monitor isn't displaying anything?07:34
rysiek|plworks for me fine for some time now07:34
JohannesenHi, I have tried to get Airport Extreme on my Powerbook to function... but, as I can see there is no need for a bcm43xx driver, as it is in the kernel - is that correct?07:34
chuckyp!automatix07:34
ubotusomebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.07:34
jachchuckip: is correct.07:34
jachchuckip: i prefered vi07:35
chuckypJohannesen, I don't think the broadcomm chipsets have support in the kernel I thought you had to use ndiswrapper.07:35
John00chuckyp: i have enabled universe and multiverse, its different sitution maybe that screenshot can help you understand what i am talking about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1040807:35
Devil^Chati need libqt3c102-mt file too install opera where i can get if ?07:35
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JohannesenI got the fwcutter and extracted the AppleAirPort207:36
gravesonchuckyp : yes when rebooting after enabling the fglrx ,the system remains blank and does not start X07:36
chuckypJohn00, I would just make sure you are using official repos provided in the breezy link.07:36
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bsystemhello07:36
chuckypJohn00, try it with those instead of the gb. ones.  See if you get the same results.07:36
bsystemi have a question07:36
Johannesenchuckyp: but I can do modprope bcm43xx07:36
chuckypJohn00, just make sure you back up your sources.list first.07:36
Johannesenwithout adding anything07:36
cafuego!bcm43xx07:36
ubotuFirmware packages for 4306 controllers are at http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/07:36
youBun2sigh....07:36
bsystemhow can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?07:36
youBun2i don't get any erros07:37
John00i awhat do u mean by gb07:37
youBun2*errors07:37
chuckypgraveson, well you can switch back to "vesa" to atleast get into x07:37
chuckypJohannesen, hrm... dunno maybe i'm thinking of a difference broadcomm chipset.07:37
youBun2all what happens is that when i select windows xp in the grub07:37
youBun2it runs through some lines of code07:37
youBun2and then halts07:37
youBun2end07:37
youBun2i have no clue what to do when it does that07:37
gravesonchuckyp: yep thanks07:37
cafuegoThose packages work fine with the Airport Extreme in my iBook.07:37
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youBun2ctrl+alt+del doesn't even reboot at that stage07:37
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Devil^Chathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1039907:37
bsystemany suggestion?07:37
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chuckypyouBun2, well to restore windows if you would read the link.   You can boot an xp cd and go to recovery mode and type fixmbr.  that will atleast get your windows back.07:38
bsystemyes07:38
youBun2I do not have an XP CD though.07:38
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chuckypyouBun2, but it will get rid of grub for the time being.07:38
youBun2Windows XP Home Edition came with my computer already installed on it07:38
bsystembut with a win98 floppy and type fdisk /mbr07:38
chuckypyouBun2, didn't it come with a restore cd ?07:38
bsystem*boot i mean07:38
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bsystemnot but07:39
youBun2I created 3 Master Restore CD's that do not work, as it seems07:39
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ubersolidcan't knoppix fix the mbr? can't remember07:39
bsystemnope07:39
youBun2My PC has no Floppy Disk Drive as everything is run by CD these days (PC is just about a year old)07:39
chuckypyouBun2, your system legally has to come wiht the copy of xp you purchased with it.  That would either be on a restore cd or an official microsfot cd.07:39
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Johannesencafuego: do I need something special? in addition to that?07:39
Devil^Chathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10399 <<< pls hel me07:39
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bsystemyouBun2, buy a floppy driove07:39
bsystem:)07:39
chuckypbsystem, nah he doesn't really need one.07:40
wastrelhow many push-ups can you do?07:40
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bsystemofc07:40
youBun2I understand that is should but perhaps it comes in form of these 3 CDs that I had to create when I first got it?07:40
bsystemhe can do it with a win98 boot cdrom07:40
chuckypyouBun2, no probably not those07:40
bsystemhow can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?07:40
chuckypbsystem, even with an ntfs system installed such as xp?07:40
bsystemyep07:40
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chuckyphrm...07:40
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youBun2Alright then, bare with me whilst I take a look through the paperwork.07:40
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bsystemthe mbr it's the same07:40
bsystemi tryed it07:40
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cdromkewhen i try to mount an smb share, it gives an error message about bad superblock or wrong fs type07:41
wastreli didn't get an xp disk with my computer.07:41
chuckypyouBun2, do you have any cd's such as 98 or anything like that from another computer?07:41
cdromkei don't like that07:41
wastrelthere's a repair partition on the drive tho07:41
youBun2 Nope07:41
chuckypwastrel, they have to give it to you in one form or another.07:41
michaelHow do I play with an iPod on Ubuntu?07:41
chuckyp!tell michael about ipod07:41
cdromkeusing juk07:41
TiberianGuys, 1 more thing, i just Edited my xorg.conf file via sudi -i, how do i restart the X ? ;p07:41
cdromkeand the plugins07:41
bsystemrofl michael07:41
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Tiberiansudo*07:41
youBun2(would love to run my os x on pc ;-) ) ahem anyway i shall go check] 07:41
michaelsorry, i'm a noob07:41
cdromkectrl + alt + backspace07:41
polpakTiberian, ctrl-alt-backspace generally does the trick07:41
bsystemctrl alt backspace Tiberian07:41
Johannesencafuego: I get this http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 64.5.53.83 80] 07:41
Tiberianty guys :)07:42
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chuckypTiberian, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:42
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bsystemhe did07:42
bsystemctrl alt backspace :)07:42
polpakbsystem, yep =)07:42
opterhow can you echo your run level?07:42
rysiek|plerrr... maybe try ctrl-alt-backspace? :P07:42
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polpakopter, type runlevel in terminal07:42
chuckypopter, do you have x running?07:42
bsystemhow can i reconfigure xchat to get the black theme?07:42
gnomefreakopter: runlevel should give you your run level07:42
bsystemsorry for spam guys07:43
bsystembut this white theme it's sucky07:43
opterthanks guys07:43
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bsystemi hate it07:43
chuckypbsystem, xchat has themes?07:43
fredmorcoshey peeps07:43
bsystemofc07:43
bsystemblack and white07:43
bsystemu can chose it when u configure it07:43
bsystembut07:43
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bsystemi dunno how with ubuntu07:43
fredmorcosguys07:43
chuckypbsystem, dpkg -reconfigure xchat07:44
bsystemit's the first time for me with this distribution07:44
gnomefreakbsystem: in the settings somewhere in xchat should allow you to change that07:44
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bsystemi tryed it07:44
polpakbsystem, I just changed it in the preferences07:44
chuckypbsystem, or whatever the reconfigure option is07:44
bsystemit dont work07:44
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chuckypbsystem, yeah you could just change it in preferences to what ever color you want.07:44
bsystemchanged how polpak ?07:44
gopiHi, How to get latest Souces.list please ??07:44
gnomefreakbsystem: after changing them did you restart xchat?07:44
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wastrelbsystem:  want me to post my ~/.xchat2/palette.conf ?07:44
gopiHi, How to get latest Sources.list please ??07:44
fredmorcosi need some application to be able to control a windows machine from my linux one (with graphical support, means i want it like im actually in front of it)07:44
Stormx2bsystem: Be a little more descriptive. Why doesn't it work?07:44
Mabus06I just added my windows partition to fstab, but I can only access it via root now. Can I chmod the whole directory recursively, and if so how should I do it?07:44
polpakunder interface->Text box07:44
bsystemofc wastrel07:44
fredmorcosthe machine is over the network and file sharing is working fine07:44
chuckyp!tell gopi about repos07:44
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gopithegladiator: hello07:44
thegladiatorgopi, hey gk !07:45
jollyjumperanyone have an idea of what I should do to run X on my intel 915 chipset ?07:45
gopithegladiator: I installed Ubuntu again :(07:45
fredmorcosMabus06, did u mount it in a dir that u can already access?07:45
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thegladiatorwhy ?!07:45
chuckyp!tell jollyjumper about 91507:45
thegladiatorwhat happened ?07:45
youBun2right07:45
youBun2according to my manual07:45
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Mabus06fredmorcos: no, it's in /media/windows07:45
chuckypjollyjumper, there is something int he wiki aboutit.07:45
gopithegladiator: I messed with some TV drivers and TV totally didnt work...07:45
TiberianBah.... CRAP ! >:(07:46
turixso ehm, what's the opposit to 'apt-get -f install' ?07:46
bsystemwastrel, can u send it to me via mail ?07:46
jollyjumperill have a look in the wiki then07:46
fredmorcosmount it into /home/your_user_name_here/windows07:46
polpaktuomasi, apt-get -f remove ?07:46
Mabus06fredmorcos: I can only access it as root in terminal (its only read access)07:46
thegladiatoroh , now are you trying to set it back  from step one ?07:46
rysiek|pljollyjumper: try VESA07:46
turixi've got these unmet dependencies07:46
chuckypyouBun2, well you could mess around with /boot/grub/menu.1st if tat is some how messed up but I doubt it or you can find a windows cd and boot to that to fix it.07:46
Devil^Chathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10399 <<< pls hel me07:46
youBun2it says that 'No seperate copies of the Windows discs and Microsoft utilities are provided. All the programs are included in your Master CDs, Master DVD or hidden partition.07:46
rysiek|plit works almost with everything :)07:46
turixand i want to get rid of them07:46
fredmorcosMabus06, mount it into /home/your_user_name_here/windows07:46
chuckypyouBun2, right maybe wastrel can help you with that hidden partition garbage whihc hopefully you did't delete.07:47
fredmorcosMabus06, change the fstab entry for it and mount it to that location07:47
wastrelbsystem:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10410  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1041107:47
johannesWhere do I find which hardware works with Ubuntu? Thanks07:47
fredmorcosMabus06, the in the terminal type: sudo mount -a07:47
TiberianGuys, im runing Ubu now with 8 bit color depth, and when i put over 8 (16, 24) my screen get "fuzzy" (?) any ideas whats goin on?07:47
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wastrelok what am i doing?07:48
youBun2Could someone tell me... does their Ubuntu have a folder called 'File System' ?07:48
chuckypjohannes, if you have a question about your hardware you could always try the live cd.07:48
Mabus06fredmorcos: thanks, I got it when you told me to change the mount place ;-)07:48
bsystemthis imac rule with ubuntu07:48
chuckypyouBun2, no07:48
kbrooks!easyubuntu07:48
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu07:48
youBun2aha07:48
g0dchildok, ipmasq and dnsmasq has been a total failure07:48
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fredmorcosMabus06, anytime :)07:48
youBun2then i have found the drive/hidden partition with my back up on07:48
g0dchildare there any quick fixes to setup a connection with the ubuntu machine as the router?07:48
chuckypyouBun2, yeah but you have no way of booting to it.07:48
Mabus06fredmorcos: how do I unmount /dev/hda1 from /media/windows ? It's already 'busy'07:48
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johannesThanks but is there a hardware database on the internet?07:49
youBun2true07:49
chuckypMabus06, sudo umount07:49
gopiAfter copying and saving sources.list....... what should I do? sudo apt-get install ?07:49
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chuckypjohannes, linuxcompatible maybe?07:49
fredmorcosMabus06, try: sudo umount -f /dev/hda107:49
youBun2well thing is, i have this partition i just mentioned, the 130 GB of XP that I can't access due to NTFS file system or some other reason and then the 10 GB partition running ubuntu07:49
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gnomefreak!hardware07:49
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:49
polpakg0dchild, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml the instructions are pretty much the same07:49
gopichuckyp: After copying and saving sources.list....... what should I do? sudo apt-get install ?07:49
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Mabus06fredmorcos: it's still chowned by root07:49
thegladiatorsudo apt-get upgrade07:50
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gnomefreakgopi: sudo apt-get update07:50
thegladiatorsudo apt-get update07:50
thegladiatorsorry*07:50
fredmorcosmm..07:50
gopiok07:50
alex_2hi ppl07:50
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chuckypgopi, apt-get update first07:50
fredmorcosmab07:50
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chuckypgopi, sudo apt-get update sry07:50
turixspeaking of the apt-get07:50
chuckypgopi, then install whatever you want.07:50
fredmorcosMabus06, re-mount it then try umounting it again07:50
azurehuesofblue<-- newb, Where would I find the exec file for Xchat on my filesystem?07:50
portoportwhere is the mysql data saved normally in ubuntu?07:50
g0dchildthanks- polpak07:50
bsystembrb07:50
turixi've got a couple of 'unmet dependencies' packages07:50
chuckypazurehuesofblue, try which xchat07:50
Mabus06fredmorcos: it's mounted, that's not the problem. The root is the owner.07:50
portoporti have installed postfix to use mysql and i dont where the emails where saved07:50
youBun2My only line of thinking is that I get rid of GNU GRUB (but then what OS would boot up as default??) and then the other option is to somehow access my NTFS drive07:51
polpakportoport, /var/lib/mysql I believe07:51
turixand how do i get rid of them07:51
turixkinda like the opposit to 'apt-get -f install'07:51
turix:P07:51
gnomefreakturix: depends why they are unmet07:51
azurehuesofbluechuckyp right on thanks!07:51
chuckypyouBun2, depends where you instlaled grub to.  If you get rid of grub and it was installed to mbr of your windows driver hten no os will boot.07:51
polpakturix, apt-get remove ?07:51
turixwell " common-lisp-controller: Depends: cl-asdf (>= 1.55) but it is not installable""07:51
Ra211can someone please tell me what the command is to change startup programs in sessions?  I've screwed it up and now I can't start GDM anymore07:51
fredmorcosMabus06, then use sudo umount, sometimes when u mount it again it gets freed so u can umount it07:52
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turixpolpak: see my problem?07:52
portoportwhat about the emails where are they save?07:52
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bsystemit works07:52
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gnomefreakportoport: most likely in your home dir somewhere07:52
bsystemtnx07:53
wastrelyay07:53
Mabus06fredmorcos: I had no problems mounting. I can access it. But only as root. It's in my home directory.07:53
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gnomefreakturix: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin07:53
chuckypyouBun2, the proper way to replace the mbr would be with a windows cd and typing fixmbr that would replace grub.07:53
gopichuckyp, gnomefreak: I saved sources.list and then currently Iam doing "sudo aptget update" .... but when should I enable that Universe and Multiverse repos ?07:54
portoportusing telnet localhost 143 , how do i check my email manually?07:54
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fredrichlk07:54
youBun2Hmm I've found something07:54
AmishIM back again but in wondows :P07:54
youBun2Ok, when it asked me during installation07:54
polpakportoport, what protocol ?07:54
gnomefreakgopi: you didnt do that when you had the list open?07:54
polpakportoport, I only know pop307:54
portoportcuz im finding it hard to configure squirrelmail to connect to my own mail server using postfix+mysql07:54
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gopignomefreak: no07:54
portoportok pop3 teach me how07:54
youBun2The following operating systems have been detected on this comnputer. Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition.07:54
fredmorcosMabus06, i dont get exactly whats your problem07:54
polpakportoport, you have to connect to port 11007:54
turixgnomefreak: pastebin?07:55
polpakportoport, or at least that's where pop3 usually happens07:55
youBun2If all of your operating systems are listed above, then it should be safe to install the boot loader to the master boot recoard of your first hard drive.07:55
portoporthttp://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier   <-- i have done this already and i want to test if the email is delivered or sent07:55
chuckypyouBun2, if you don't have the xp cd you could always try http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page07:55
gnomefreakgopi: why doi i remember just going over this with you a week or so ago07:55
alex_2small question: i'm using xgl. is there any way to make it recognize more than 7 mouse buttons?07:55
chuckypyouBun2, yes in theory it shouldn't have messed anything up.07:55
gopignomefreak: Currently .... Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [2237kB] 07:55
gnomefreakubotu tell turix about pastebin07:55
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chuckypyouBun2, or you could try to reinstall ubuntu and let it reinstall grub again07:55
portoportpolpak after telnet localhost 11007:55
portoport?07:55
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chuckypyouBun2, maybe it hiccuped but I doubt it.07:55
dv_hi07:55
youBun2When your computer boots, you will be able to choose to load one of these operating systems or your new Ubuntu system. Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record? YES NO07:55
gopignomefreak: I already said... I installed Ubunto again from scratch !! :(07:56
turix-_-07:56
polpakportoport, type user yourusername07:56
gnomefreakgopi: if you have the universe lines in there just add multiverse to the end with a space in between universe and multiverse07:56
polpakportoport, then type pass yourpassword07:56
turixi've only edited my sources.list once, when i added the wine http07:56
youBun2Hm...07:56
turixi don't think there's anything wrong with it07:56
polpakportoport, then type list to see the list of messages, which will give you the message index and message size07:56
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polpakportoport, then you can type retr indexnumber to retrieve that message07:57
gopignomefreak: But its also showing..... Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages [2993B] 07:57
portoportok07:57
youBun2What is a good CD burner for ubuntu?07:57
gnomefreakgopi: those are not even close to the same repos07:57
youBun2Since I can't even erase a CD-RW on this07:57
h36sahi.. I can't get udev to start on boot (not sure why it stopped working.. I was messing with rc scripts). so X won't start (can;t find the mouse).. I do a /etc/init.d/udev restart && /etc/init.d/gdm restart   and everything works fine07:57
h36sawhat do I need to check07:58
silvaranh36sa: Will it start manually (/etc/init.d/udev start)07:58
silvarandon't forget sudo07:58
polpakyouBun2, gnomebaker or k3b works well07:58
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h36sasilvaran: it restarts.. gives me a warning about odd behavior and waits a minute when I try to do udev start07:58
gnomefreakgopi: where ever you see universe in your sources.list put the word multiverse after it if its not already there07:58
gopignomefreak: oh... so what should I do? Should I enable Universe and Multiverse in Synaptic Package manager and try Update again ?07:58
youBun2thanks07:58
portoportafter typing pass mypassword  it says login failed07:58
fredmorcosguys!07:58
chuckypwastrel, didyou post your xchat colors config?07:59
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fredmorcosi need some application to be able to control a windows machine from my linux one (with graphical support, means i want it like im actually in front of it)07:59
fredmorcosthe machine is over the network and file sharing is working fine07:59
h36sasilvaran: well, it should be starting at boot.07:59
polpakportoport, then either your user or password was wrong07:59
gopignomefreak: oh ok...07:59
gnomefreakgopi: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:59
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silvaranh36sa: Yeah, it should... you can try submitting the output to pastebin and printing the link to the channel so everyone can have a look.07:59
portoporthmm07:59
bestadvocatehey guys, whenever I try to use apt on dapper, i get this error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download director07:59
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turixlook i can't run apt-get because everytime i try it prints "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:07:59
turixThe following packages have unmet dependencies:"08:00
Fackamatoso08:00
h36sasilvaran: what should I paste?08:00
silvaranbestadvocate: Something else has the repo locked... close synaptic08:00
silvaranh36sa: The output of "/etc/init.d/udev start"08:00
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wastrelchuckyp:  in fact i did sir!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10410    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1041108:00
Fackamatowhat MAJOR differences can I find between breezy and dapper flight 5?08:00
silvaranh36sa: possibly even the output of "dmesg"08:00
paganiniI'm running GNOME 2.12.1 - the default for Breezy, I think - and I remember that in earlier versions you could allow application windows to cover up your panel, they way you can in KDE. I'd like to do that, but I can't find an option to turn it on. Anyone know how to do this?08:00
chuckypturix, did you try running sudo apt-get -f install then?08:00
gopignomefreak: Will u plz see my sources.list once ?08:00
h36sanothing useful in dmesg.. doesn't restart basically do the same as start?08:00
h36saI'll go wait the minute..08:00
silvaranh36sa: Kind of08:00
silvaran!pastebin08:00
gnomefreakturix: if everything was right you wouldnt be having depends issues in breezy08:01
turixchuckyp: but i dont want to install those packages08:01
katarotanyone know how i can get .exe to work in ubuntu08:01
silvaranDon't tell me, dufus...08:01
portoporti have set it in my mysql correctly08:01
silvaranubotu: tell h36sa about pastebin08:01
h36saI know what pastebin is08:01
silvaranh36sa: Start pasting ;)08:01
chuckypwastrel, why 2?08:01
gopignomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1041208:01
h36saI've gotta wait a fkin minute :P08:01
bestadvocatesilvaran: how do I quit the program that has the repo locked (I tried closing synaptic and everything else and running apt from the command line, and that printed out the same error08:02
chuckypturix, well you need to fix the errors first08:02
wastrelchuckyp:  one's colors.conf and one's palette.conf -  dunno what they each do, so i provided both08:02
silvaranbestadvocate: try doing a "lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock"08:02
turixchuckyp: what errors?08:02
h36saplus it's on my laptop, and without udev, I can't load X and without X pasting is difficult :(08:02
gnomefreakgopi: that list is good08:02
h36sabut I'll see what I can do08:02
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gnomefreakgo with it08:02
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silvaranh36sa: I never thought of that; good point.08:02
h36sahaha.. it just works08:03
gnomefreakturix: the packages that sudo apt-get -f install installs or removes are needed for you to fix your system08:03
katarotwould this work download the driver.exe and if i get the driver.exe to work would  i get my wirless working08:03
bestadvocatesilvaran: that command didnt print anything08:03
gopignomefreak: So no need to add Multiverse after Universe right ?08:03
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gnomefreakgopi: its added already08:03
silvaranbestadvocate: ok hang on08:03
miveczgnomefreak hi08:03
gnomefreakhi mivecz08:03
miveczgnomefreak how i i nstall kde  3,508:03
gopignomefreak: ok thx !08:03
h36sagives me the warning about waiting a minute.. then starting hardware even daemon... [ok] , mounting tm,pfs over /dev.. [ok] , creating initial device nodes... [ok] 08:03
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h36saand yeah X works08:04
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gnomefreakmivecz: go to easysources add the kubuntu3.5 repos than apt-get update than apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:04
silvaranbestadvocate: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives/lock08:04
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gnomefreakubotu tell mivecz about easysource08:04
chuckypahh black and whit enow08:04
silvaranFor the love of all things ubuntu I'm stupid today.08:04
h36saso... /etc/init.d/udev start work08:04
youBun2Can someone give me a direct download URL for Gnomebreaker for Ubuntu?08:04
bestadvocatesilvaran: also printed nothing08:04
chuckypwastrel, ty for the black and white08:04
chuckypchuckyp, test08:04
wastrelchuckyp:  welcome to the dark side :] 08:04
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_jason!info gnomebaker08:04
ubotugnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB08:04
silvaranbestadvocate: And you still get the error?08:05
miveczok now  i remeber08:05
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miveczsudo apt-get install kde08:05
thomas`would not having swap space stop dapper drake from installing?08:05
mivecz:P08:05
turixgnomefreak: it's just that it's going to install the linux-image-2.6.12-9-k708:05
_jasonyouBun2: it's in the universe repository.  Have you enabled it?08:05
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chuckypwastrel, yeah don't need the palette.conf atleast I don't have one.  Only the colors.conf is used for display.08:05
youBun2Excuse me?08:05
katarotany one can i change .exe or just make them work on ubuntu08:05
void^not having swap would stop arbitrary things from working correctly08:05
bestadvocatesilvaran: wow no, thanks?08:05
h36sathomas`: only if you have like 8mb ram08:05
turixand when i run 'uname -a' it says  2.6.12-10-38608:05
_jasonyouBun2: are you familiar with synaptic?08:05
thomas`i have 1gb08:05
thomas`it just hanged i noticed08:05
youBun2No08:05
gopignomefreak, chuckyp: So now sudo apt-get update is over..... what should I do ? Upgrade also needed ?08:05
miveczgnomefreak thnks  but i wont the default  sorry  i  found it:)08:05
thomas`when it detected hardware in the installation08:05
_jasonubotu: tell youBun2 about synaptic08:05
silvaranbestadvocate: Nah, just keep in mind those two commands in case it happens again.08:05
_jasonubotu: tell youBun2 about universe08:06
bestadvocatealright08:06
turixim not a doctor but isnt 10 better than 9 =p08:06
chuckypgopi, what are you tyring to do upgrade to dapper?08:06
portoportsheezz login failed08:06
youBun2This is my first installation of Ubuntu, however I am good with computers in general08:06
h36sasilvaran: you get my output from udev?08:06
silvaranh36sa: No I can't see your screen08:06
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thomas`i wonder whats going on why certain stuff wont install.... i noticed the kororaa livecd wouldnt bootup for me now i cant install dapper drake08:06
gopichuckyp: No... bt is it better yo upgrade to dapper ?08:06
thomas`what is going on gosh08:06
_jasonyouBun2: check your private messages from ubotu for some info about synaptic and universe08:06
h36saeverything loaded fine, and I could start X.. now why doesn't it do it at boot. when I see the .. "setting up /dev" it finishes with ..  [ok] 08:06
chuckypgopi, what are you trying to do?  I don't understand you just said apt-get update worked now should I blah?08:07
silvaranh36sa: I don't know... try the recovery mode and look for unusual output.08:07
h36sak08:07
youBun2I have08:07
RuffianSoldierIs it a bad idea to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?08:07
youBun2but still this is useless08:07
gopichuckyp: Actually I want to install TV viewing application...08:07
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katarotis ubotu a bot08:07
miveczgnomefreak also  i  use  dapper drake   every little i update is tell me to update can i  update all the new   one time andno  all the day   notify08:07
chuckypyouBun2, what are you trying to do still?08:07
youBun2Where is Computer -> System Configurations?08:07
thomas`i wanna know why linux is acting strange now...08:07
_jasonubotu: tell katarot about yourself08:07
youBun2I open Computer and I get my drives listed etc.08:07
gopichuckyp: So is this breezy fine or upgrade to dapper is better ?08:08
paganiniThis is strange. When I put a DVD-movie in my drive, I get a little icon on my desktop that says "DVDROM DISK" and a window pops up asking me if I want to burn files to it. I can't play the DVD in totem. Re-installing gnome-volume-manager fixes this problem. But, it seems to randomly reoccur. Any ideas?08:08
chuckypgopi, well after you enable universe or whatever you where doing just sudo apt-get install <packagename>08:08
_jasonyouBun2: what are you referring to?08:08
thomas`i knew i shoulda created swap space didnt gethow to set it up tho when i installed  5.10 so i skiped it08:08
youBun2Aha08:08
youBun2Nevermind08:08
chuckypgopi, or you can use synaptic.08:08
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gnomefreakmivecz: cron only runs apt-get update 1 time a day the rest if you want to do more you do by typing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:08
youBun2I was looking at the location method for below Ubuntu 5.1008:08
silvaranthomas`: How much ram do you have?08:08
turixchuckyp: it says its going to install the linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 but my current version is 2.6.12-10-38608:08
pacohello08:08
thomas`1gb pf pc350008:08
gopichuckyp: ok08:08
turixit doesn't make sense08:08
silvaranthomas`: don't worry about it then.08:08
thomas`im using 14percent of it right now08:08
thomas`but its not the thign just wont install...08:08
_jasonyouBun2: are you ok now?08:08
thomas`i just do not get whats stopping it08:08
mivecz<gnomefreak i  write  but is  continew make  update  3-4 time per  dayP08:09
pacomy image stats are not displayed on mailgraph couriergraph et binfgraph.. any idea ?08:09
silvaranthomas`: what do you mean?08:09
thomas`dapper drake08:09
silvaranthomas`: Ubuntu won't install at all?08:09
chuckypturix, I dunno you have some broken dependency somewhere I'm sure there is  away to ignore the error though but I wouldn't.08:09
h36sahmm weird.. it's giving me an error about no tmpfs support08:09
gnomefreakmivecz: it might be set differnt in testing08:09
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thomas`not dapper drake08:09
miveczok\08:09
thomas`i installed 5.10 fine08:09
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thomas`but... when i just tried it hanged on detecting new hardware08:09
thomas`it loaded08:09
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thomas`then the screen was just blue with a grey stripe at the bottum08:09
youBun2ok08:09
youBun2now then08:09
thegladiatorgopi done ?08:09
silvaranthomas`: it wouldn't have anything to do with swap.08:09
youBun2how do i install gnobebaker?08:09
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turixchuckyp:  so you suggest that i run the apt-get -f install afterall?08:10
thomas`any idea what then?08:10
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_jasonyouBun2: did you enable universe?08:10
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thomas`i really woudl like to get this up and running..08:10
chuckypdapper talk is in #ubuntu+1 so stop asking questions about dapper here.08:10
silvaranthomas`: The best thing to do might be to install breezy, then update to dapper from there...08:10
thomas`...08:10
chuckypturix, what are you ultimately trying to do?  Just install something?08:10
thomas`imight just load bios defaults08:10
portoportthanks guys08:10
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thomas`and try doing it08:10
portoporthave to sleep now08:10
portoport3:30am08:10
silvaranchuckyp: He's running breezy now so it doesn't count.08:10
Ads_ubuntu is slower than windows08:10
turixchuckyp: yup08:10
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pomeguys, I'm trying to apt-get plone, any tips?08:10
chuckypturix, and the problem is you can't because of that message?08:10
pomeit's not working08:10
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gopithegladiator: what done?08:11
turixno but it says is going to install a previous kernel version08:11
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chuckypturix, what are you trying to install that it wants to do that?08:11
_jasonpome: can you give some more information than ``not working''08:11
thegladiatorgopi, back to working conditon ?08:11
turixlinux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 is a previous kernel version if my current is 2.6.12-10-386, right?08:11
thegladiatorgopi, tv etc ?08:11
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chuckypturix, right08:11
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GrarkI've been hearing that ubuntu is slower than windows....any tweaking guides around?08:11
gnomefreakturix: is it a 64bit app you are trying to install?08:11
HappyFoolpome: i played with plone for a little while; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the plone-site was useful to get going with plone08:12
chuckypGrark, its not slower than windows08:12
turixnope08:12
Ads_Gark, it is slower than windows :P08:12
gopithegladiator: now xawtv is getting downloaded... and then I will download Blackdown java and then install Jin....08:12
thomas`i just want my compiz+xgl!08:12
pome_jason: well, 'zope2.8' appears in init.d, but I get an error when i try to start it08:12
HappyFoolpome: that is, the plone-site package08:12
turixits an i38608:12
thomas`why has everyone experienced it but me! noo =(08:12
ompaulGrark, you need to change your news sources08:12
thomas`what  could i do to possibly get stuff working08:12
chuckypturix, what package are you trying to install?08:12
silvaranthomas`: what video card?08:12
turixchuckyp: i tried to install cl-jpeg earlier08:12
thegladiatorgopi, ok cool08:12
thomas`to install blahdamnit...08:12
thomas`6800 GT PCI-E08:12
pome'* Zope2.8: no instances found.'08:12
thomas`amd 64 3000+08:12
pomeHappyFool: yes, i tried that too08:12
thomas`1gb ram and nothing08:12
GrarkCompare a fresh install of xp and a fresh install of ubuntu and I think it is.08:13
thomas`wont even boot up a friggin livecd now08:13
turixchuckyp: is there someway to sortof regret it? :P08:13
h36sathomas`: you're overheating or you have bad ram08:13
chuckypturix, okay well what I would do is backup my /boot/grub/menu.1st then do the -f install that way you still remember the old kernel name.08:13
GrarkBut I'm one who knows that even if it is, I'm OK with that, I like the stability08:13
GrarkAND the longer XP goes, the slower it gets.08:13
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Grarkbut i've heard good things about linux in general and it's longevity08:13
chuckypturix, regardless of what it wants to install it should still boot to the newest kernel.08:13
vax_hello08:13
Ads_Grark, ubuntu sucks for me, i've done a fresh install of it and fixed all the so called mem leaks but to no avail. It can only handle a few bunch of apps before xorg starts to cock up and hog the cpu, that or one of your apps just hogs the cpu for no reason. Major pain in the ass08:14
silvaranthomas`: Why not just go with the s/breezy/dapper/g in your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade ?08:14
turixchuckyp: yeah you're right, feels kinda risky though08:14
youBun2Yes, I have enabled Universe08:14
turixthx anyway :P08:14
vax_anyone know what is the package that create a men called "Debian"?08:14
ompaulGrark, if you want to talk this is not the channel for it please go to #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel you seem to be making non specific comments that are not help requests08:14
gnomefreak!upgrade08:14
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.08:14
youBun2It is installing updates now08:14
GrarkAds_, maybe it's your ram.08:14
silvaranor that.08:14
silvaranubotu: thanks08:14
gnomefreakplease use the tool if your gonna upgrade from breezy to dapper thank you08:14
ubotusilvaran: my pleasure08:14
Grarkompaul, understood08:14
h36sasilvaran: so it looks like udev is complaining about a lack of tmpfs support, and that's why it won't start.. but I've tried 4 different kernels (all have worked fine before) and all of them report the same thing. where do I need to look now08:14
youBun2Now what?08:14
chuckypturix, not really it should still boot the newer kernel and it will make apt happy so you can use it again.  Or you can remove the package that is giving your grief if you don't need it.08:14
pomeGrark: Linux rocks, but it's still miles behind the alternatives when it comes to GUI's08:14
Ads_Grark, I don't think so, XP can run much better on the same system08:14
ubersolidb.s08:15
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GrarkI was actually trying to say even IF it's slower, there are solid trade offs.  END OF TOPIC08:15
chuckypAds_, you're crazy08:15
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silvaranh36sa: crappy crappy... and yet /etc/init.d/udev start works fine ?08:15
vax_nobody know what is the package that create a men called "Debian"?08:15
Ads_chuckyp that was a constructive reply08:15
silvaranh36sa: what's 'uname -a' say?08:15
ubersolidxp is better than ubuntu in ONE thing; games08:15
chuckypAds_, I want to see you run xp with apache mysql php and a whole bunch of other stuff running and use your xp system under load?08:15
h36saAds_: you should check your /etc/hosts file08:15
_jasonyouBun2: so press search and search for gnomebaker, then right click > install, then press apply08:15
chuckypAds_, it won't even compare to nix.08:15
gnomefreakvax_: yes hold on i have it somewhere08:16
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dv_ubersolid, thats not really ubuntu's fault08:16
nexactubersolid, you still have cedega to emule it :] 08:16
Ads_chuckyp how about......i don't NEED to run mysql php08:16
chuckypAds_, once nix is configured properly It will run pound for pound with xp if not better.08:16
ubersolidyes i know :) linux i general :)08:16
vax_gnomefreak, what the name please?08:16
youBun2thanks08:16
youBun2it's doing now08:16
chuckypAds_, well how bout you don't need half of the stuff you are loading on boot with ubuntu?  And once youg et rid of that you will see the speed difference.08:16
gnomefreakvax_: menu-xdg iirc08:16
h36sasilvaran: yeah /etc/init.d/udev start works fine... Linux toad 2.6.12.toad #3 Wed Mar 15 22:39:41 PST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:16
Grarkompaul, I've been nothing but thankful for all the help here.08:16
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wastrelthe default firefox installed with breezy is hella slow.  upgrading to ff1.5 helps a lot08:16
pomeHappyFool: plone-site worked this time, but when I try /manage, it rejects the user and pass I set it up with08:16
thegladiatorchuckyp, whats nix ?08:16
ompaulAds_, failing to boot and suddenly failing is a sign of hardware issues check out booting with wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions08:16
pomeHappyFool: any idea what the default might be?08:16
chuckypAds_, for instance I betyou are loading blue tootch and other stuff with out even having those devices.08:16
chuckypthegladiator, linux=nix08:17
silvarank31th: cat /boot/config-2.6.12* | grep TMPFS08:17
vax_gnomefreak, i need to remove, oh but if i try to remove menu-xdg it remove more package dependencies..08:17
thegladiatorah yep08:17
vax_gnomefreak, is all right anyway?08:17
Grarkchuckyp, ok maybe "I" need to turn some stuff off too :)08:17
gnomefreakvax_: could you give me a hint on what it wants to remove?08:17
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Ads_chuckyp, that may be true i would like to be pointed in the right direction on how to keep only the bare essential services running, and if after that i am not satisfied then i will still hold true to my opinion atm08:17
chuckypGrark, thats probably a good possibility ubuntu loads a ton of crap that you don't really need.08:17
h36sasilvaran: CONFIG_TMPFS/CONFIG_TMPFS_XATTR/CONFIG_TMPFS_SECURITY all =y08:18
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silvaranh36sa: Shouldn't be a problem with tmpfs... do you know the exact error message?08:18
vax_gnomefreak, yes, just a moment08:18
HappyFoolpome: sorry, not sure08:18
h36saI'll reboot and get it, 1 sec08:18
chuckypAds_, well you can use update-rc.d to configure services but I'm not even going to get into that here.  Its something that should be in the wiki.  About configuring startup services.08:18
GrarkAds_, that would be helpful for me too since I'm new, most of the serivces would be hudden08:18
ompaulAds_, what services do you want?08:18
Grark*hidden08:18
k31thsilvaran: lol wat ?08:18
HappyFoolpome: looked in /usr/share/doc/plone-site* ?08:18
silvarank31th: Uh...?08:18
pomeHappyFool: I'll give it a whirl08:18
Ads_ompaul: only the needed services.......nothing uncessary08:19
vax_gnomefreak, It remove too k3b, kaffeine etc etc..08:19
chuckypompaul, for instance how ubuntu loads bluetooth on every install even though a majority of people don't have it.  There are a ton of useless services that get loaded.  And people complain of the slowness without knowing how to correct it.08:19
ompaulAds_, define needed08:19
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chuckypompaul, like cups etc...08:19
whiterhello, i cant seem to run ./install08:19
whiterfrom bash08:19
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k31thyou msg me some random crap08:20
whiterthomas@jrubuntu:/mnt/hdc1/incomming/firefox/winetools-0.9jo-III$ ./install08:20
whiterbash: ./install: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied08:20
ubersolidwhiter try sh ./install08:20
Ads_well i'm not too experienced in ubuntu yet so i don't know what is "needed" to keep it stable, i just want to turn off anything i probably don't need08:20
gnomefreakvax_: right down what it wants to remove as long as they are just apps like that nothing too important and after you remove it install those apps again08:20
silvarank31th: /msg it back08:20
whiterit says it has to be done from root08:20
chuckypAds_, and you can use utilities such as prelink etc...08:20
whiter@ ubersolid08:20
pomeHappyFool: nothing there, but I figured it out08:20
whiterbut when i use sudo08:20
vax_gnomefreak, Ok, thanks08:20
h36sasilvaran: * version 2.86 booting  -- grep: /proc/filesystems: no such file or directory -- *udev reqiores tmpfs support, not started. -- grep: /proc/cmdline: no such file or directory -- * setting disc parameters... -- setting standby to 120 (10 minutes) -- [ok] 08:20
Grarkchuckyp, prelink?08:20
whitersudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied08:20
Ads_chuckyp: prelink?08:20
whiterah nvm i got it08:20
pomeHappyFool: despite using a different username, it accepts 'admin' and my chosen password08:20
ubersolidwhiter try chmod +x ./install , then ./install08:20
whiterhad to do "sudo sh ./install"08:21
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pomeHappyFool: which gets me in the ZMI - there is no plone instance08:21
ubersolidk08:21
silvaranh36sa: Do you have the following line in your /etc/fstab (no quotes): "proc            /proc           proc        defaults       0      0"08:21
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ompaulAds_, you can use this tool but if you break your system I want you to write this down - >> /etc/init.d/* start << * is a wild card if you shut something down with this program I give you then you can restart it with a command line08:21
silvaranh36sa: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 :)08:21
HappyFoolpome: you're already way beyond me, sorry08:21
chuckypAds_, Grark prelink will allow apps to come up faster.08:21
silvarank31th: Hurry up, the suspense is killing me.08:21
h36sasilvaran: yep, first entry in /etc/fstab08:22
pomeHappyFool: problem sorted. Thanks for your input.08:22
chuckypAds_, Grark i'm hunting around for a tweaking guide for you two right now08:22
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k31thsilvaran: scroll up my quoted  me some thing08:22
k31thffs08:22
k31thi ment08:22
MisterNhi08:22
HappyFoolpome: i see a #plone and a #zope -- maybe they can give better assistance ?08:22
wastrelbye now08:22
Ads_ompaul: ok i have written it down on a sticky note08:22
k31thu said my name in the channel08:22
k31thscroll up08:22
h36sahe's trying to talk to me08:22
pomeHappyFool: thanks to you, I don't need them08:22
Ads_chuckyp: thanks a lot08:22
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pomeHappyFool: (they can be a bit difficult)08:22
h36sasimilar stupid usernames :)08:22
HappyFoolpome: heh. ok :)08:22
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silvarank31th: I don't see it.08:23
ompaulAds_, >>sudo apt-get install bum<< to install it is the program Boot Up Manager from the menu system - administration - you need universe repos to install it08:23
silvaranh36sa: oh maybe08:23
ompaul!tell Ads_ about universe08:23
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ompaulAds_, read the info from the bot08:23
thegladiatorhow do I search for something in apt ?08:23
Ads_ompaul: LOL @ bum sorry being immature08:23
h36sasilvaran: so the proc entry is there..08:23
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thegladiatorxcompmgr08:23
Ads_ompaul it's ok i have that repos available08:23
ompaulAds_, go to it08:23
h36sasilvaran: and I can cat /proc/filesystems08:24
silvarank31th: Yeah I see it, sorry yeah too similar usernames... you two look like a bunch of dev nodes.08:24
ompaulthegladiator, apt-cache search KeyWord08:24
h36samaybe udev is trying to load before /proc is mounted?08:24
silvaranh36sa: It looks like udev is trying to look at /proc/filesystems before /proc is mounted.08:24
Grarkchuckyp, what about the other way, apps/services typical people DON'T need?08:24
thegladiatorthank you ompaul08:24
silvaranh36sa: Hahaha yeah :)08:24
h36sahmm08:24
silvaranh36sa: And then by the time you get to a prompt to type '/etc/init.d/udev start', /proc is mounted08:24
h36saright08:24
chuckypGrark, well do you have bluetooth?08:24
h36sahow do I fix it :)08:24
silvaranh36sa: somebody with more intimate knowledge of the startup scripts will have to look into it.08:24
silvaran!rc08:24
ubotusilvaran: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:25
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silvaran!startup08:25
ubotu[startup]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?highlight=%28startup%2908:25
silvaranNot that one08:25
silvaran!boot08:25
ubotusilvaran: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:25
silvaranok fine we'll take it private08:25
gnomefreak!msg the bot08:25
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:25
thegladiatordoes any one know about xcompmgr ?08:25
chuckypGrark, Ads_ somethings I first do is make sure hdparm is listing my hdd right with dma etc... Then I usually install a cpu specific kernel i.e. 686 k7 etc... depending on my cpu.  THen I usually get rid of services that are not needed or I don't have the hardware for.08:25
thegladiatorwhat does it do ?08:25
TiberianHow can i know how much amount of memory i can use ? (configuring the xserver-xorg)08:26
gnomefreakTiberian: top08:26
thegladiatorgnomefreak, any idea about xcompmgr ?08:26
Ads_chuckyp: i do have dma enabled for all my drives08:26
thegladiatoris it good ?08:26
gnomefreakthegladiator: no did you try apt-cache search xcompmgr?08:26
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Grarkhdparm...08:27
Tiberiansorry gnomefreak , but i did /clear :/08:27
thegladiatoryep08:27
gnomefreakoh oops08:27
gnomefreakTiberian: for your video card?08:27
Tiberianyes gnomefreak08:27
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f00f_bughow do i change what nautilus opens different extentions with?08:27
gnomefreakTiberian: what is the mem on the vc?08:27
chuckypGrark, Ads_ well here's an excellent start for you guys http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=tweaking08:27
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gnomefreakty ompaul08:27
silvaranh36sa: ls /etc/rcS.d/*mountvirtfs /etc/rcS.d/*udev08:28
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GrarkThank you again chuckyp for the point :)08:28
Tiberiangnomefreak,  256M08:28
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warthawgis there a separate channel for ubuntu 64?08:28
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Ads_chuckyp: thanks a lot i will check out the link now08:28
chuckypubotu, tweaking is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 for speeding up the boot process.08:28
ubotuokay, chuckyp08:28
chuckyp!tweaking08:28
ubotuhmm... tweaking is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 for speeding up the boot process.08:28
gnomefreakTiberian: than dont go over that i would stay lil under it08:28
gnomefreakor leave it blank and let ubuntu decide08:28
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gnomefreakwarthawg: no this is the channel for 64 adn 3208:29
h36sasilvaran: I remember removing the mountvirtfs08:29
gnomefreakand*08:29
h36sa:)08:29
warthawgthanks, gnomefreak08:29
silvaranh36sa: baaaaaaaad08:29
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h36sait should be in rcS?08:29
h36sawhat #?08:29
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silvaranh36sa: (as root) cd /etc/rcS.d && ln -s ../init.d/mountvirtfs ./S01mountvirtfs08:29
silvaranh36sa: Any particular reason why you removed it?08:30
warthawgi know nothing of spinlocks or elevator writes, will i ever be able to grok 32bitness in 64bitland?08:30
Ed_RHey, folks. Question for you all--any idea on time before GNOME 2.14 becomes apt-gettable for Breezy?08:30
silvaranwarthawg: Elevator writes are public graffiti.08:30
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smogAnyone have a good TCP Wrapper tutorial site?08:30
silvaranwarthawg: Stick to the bathroom stalls.08:30
gnomefreakEd_R: Ed_R not sure it will08:30
warthawgsilvaran:  i like that.  consider it stolen :)08:30
silvaranheheh08:30
h36sasilvaran: I was trying to figure out why all these freakin kde services are loading at boot.. I boot into gnome and have khelper kthread ksoftirqd kblockd kacpid etc all loaded08:30
gnomefreaklil lag here :(08:30
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Ed_Rgnomefreak: You gotta be kidding me...not even just thrown into the repositories? I just don't want to have to remove it by hand and recompile.08:31
ompaulEd_R, after it gets released it will be moved into dapper and should be released with dapper whenever that is some time in the next 4 to 10 weeks or thereabouts08:31
silvaranh36sa: Unfortunately, just because they start with 'k' doesn't mean they're KDE services... they could also be for the [k] ernel :)...08:31
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silvaranh36sa: And technically, they're not services in the /etc/init.d sense :)08:31
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Ed_Rompaul: I'm not upgrading to dapper. GNOME 2.14 has been released. Why isn't it going to be available for Breezy?08:31
h36sahaha08:31
h36sathat stuff is all kernel? damn08:32
h36saI'm retarded08:32
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ompaulEd_R, because it 5.10 is stable and will not get new packages, only security fixes08:32
Ed_RLovely. Dapper beta doesn't even RUN on my computer.08:32
smogHow come apt-get intall nmap doesn't work?08:32
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silvaranh36sa: just like migration, ksoftirqd, watchdog, events, pdflush, aio, etc. etc.08:32
ompaul!distrologic08:32
ubotumethinks distrologic is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic08:32
ompaulEd_R, ^^^08:32
warthawgEd_R, gnome 2.14 is not all that08:32
rysiek|plsmog: sudo apt-get install nmap :)08:32
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gnomefreaksmog: sudo apt-get install08:32
smogI did but it said package nmap is not available08:33
rysiek|plgotcha! :)08:33
h36sayeah.. I just assumed kde was taking over08:33
silvaran!info nmap08:33
rysiek|plsmog: huh?08:33
h36sasilvaran: thanks for the help08:33
Ed_Rwarthawg: It's better than 2.12 and less of a memory pig. My computer is generously termed shitfully old. Believe me, I need anything I can get.08:33
ubotunmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB08:33
silvaranh36sa: Not a problem ;)08:33
ompaulEd_R, it is not released if the doors fall off that is the way of the world - when stable then you move i.e. when released08:33
silvaranIt's in main, should be there.08:33
warthawgEd_R,  ack08:33
h36saI was getting ready to reinstall freebsd :o08:33
rysiek|plguys, how/where can I get the sources for the modules I have running?08:33
silvaranh36sa: Hahah don't go there yet ;)08:33
h36sa.. and yeah it boots again08:33
h36sawoot08:33
warthawgi never install freebsd, on the first date08:34
ompaulEd_R, chill with the discriptive language this is a family channel :008:34
ompaulwarthawg, offtopic08:34
smogWhen I do a sudo apt-get install nmap I get this, "Package nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:34
smogThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:34
smogis only available from another source08:34
smogE: Package nmap has no installation candidate08:34
smog"08:34
Ed_Rompaul: There is NOTHING in Dapper that would push me to move save GNOME 2.14 and since it's almost a certainty that Dapper would result in a more-or-less-required reinstall, I'm very not enthusiastic about the idea.08:34
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gnomefreaksmog: apt-cache search nmap08:34
smogthank you08:34
gnomefreaksee what the right name for it is08:34
Ed_RI did that once going to Breezy, and doing it again would be an exercise in masochism.08:34
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ompaulEd_R, what have you done to your 5.10 install that makes you think it would be required for 6.x ?08:35
rysiek|plrepeating: where can I get the sources for the modules (namely: forcedeth) I have installed and running on my (K)Ubuntu?08:35
Ed_Rompaul: I'm not looking forward to having to blam the whole thing and go through an install again. I thought I was done doing that when I ditched RedHat.08:35
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ompaulEd_R, breezy was the name of the current release before* it was released when it became 5.1008:35
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rysiek|planybody? :)08:36
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ompaulEd_R, we have a very simple update process that works if you have not grabbed stuff from all over the interenet, please read the distro logic page08:36
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r3texwhat is that cool gnome app that ubuntu has that lets you configure your network called?08:37
chuckyprysiek|pl, if you enable the deb-src in sources.list you should be able to get the source08:37
Grarkchuckyp, Thanks again, I'll be tweaking tonight.08:37
Grarkone QUICK question, hdparm....what's the format for the device name?08:37
Ed_Rompaul: I've read distrologic already, and I *have* grabbed .debs from outside Ubuntu's repositories (frequently because they lack what I need).08:37
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chuckypGrark, np there is tons of stuff you can do that is some of the problems with using a distro like ubuntu is they have setup for most users.  Not specifically for your system.  You always have to tweak unless you go with a distro like gentoo or something with a more customizing sort of ideas.08:38
rysiek|plchuckyp: m'kay, trying, thx08:38
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chuckypGrark, if you want to find out which dev your hard drive is on you could always fdisk -l that will list them i.e. /dev/hda1 the device would be /dev/hda   the 1 is the partition number.08:39
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silvaranAt that runlevel config page (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491), what utility is he using in the first screenshot?08:39
mackowyhello suckers08:39
silvaranmackowy: Hey08:39
mackowysorry08:39
Tiberian!help easyubuntu08:39
dabearKommandoen easyubuntu fantes ikke08:39
silvaranmackowy: Shooty, shouldn't have responded to that...08:39
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mackowysorry08:40
ompaul!tell Tiberian about easyubuntu08:40
Tiberianty :)08:40
rysiek|plchuckyp: well, I have them deb-src's, but the question is: what packages I need to install?08:40
chuckypGrark, also there is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295 for automatix althought I don't like it.08:40
Ed_Rompaul: Is there a way to poke Synaptic so that it can find Dapper packages? I'm okay with it being unsupported so long as I can get at it.08:40
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chuckyprysiek|pl, what are you looking for exactly?08:40
gnomefreak!automatix08:40
ubotu[automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.08:40
chuckyprysiek|pl, or better yet trying to do.08:40
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silvarannm, got it08:40
gnomefreakplease dont advise people to use it08:40
smogHas anyone here succesfully installed tripwire on their ubuntu machine?08:40
chuckypgnomefreak, I told him I don't like it.08:40
chuckyp!easyubuntu08:41
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu08:41
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Ed_Rgnomefreak: If there was a better way to do it, people wouldn't use Automatix; easyubuntu didn't fly for me.08:41
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Mabus06how come I get a segmentation fault when trying to import a folder from my ntfs partition to rhythmbox08:41
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GUIPEnguinhow do I make somethign run at boot? In gentoo I would do rc-update add package default  or boot    how do you do that for /etc/init.d/ scripts in ubuntu?08:41
chuckypEd_R, they could just follow the wiki and read some pages.08:41
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ompaulEd_R, well when it gets in there you may be able to use backports but if you get backports badly wrong - you will need to reinstall, if you get them wrong you will wish you never heard of the word - so back up your personal data before you go playing with them08:41
Grarkchuckyp, I'm doing something wrong here.08:42
Ed_Rchuckyp: You're asking a lot of people. :p08:42
gnomefreakEd_R: there is a very easy way to install anything that automatix installs08:42
jjs0ahGUIPEnguin: put your script in /etc/init.d .. add a symlink in /etc/rc2.d ,for example08:42
warthawgGUIPEnguin, .bashrc?08:42
chuckypEd_R, lol08:42
chuckypGrark, how so?08:42
ompaulchuckyp, so don't say it at all thanks08:42
jcolehow do i get vnc-java to work with vino? i used to use the X vnc module, but that doesn't seem to work in ubuntu08:42
gnomefreakubotu tell Ed_R about easysource08:42
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rysiek|plchuckyp: I am trying to make WakeOnLan working in my (K)Ubuntu. I have a NForce2 chipset with an on-board NIC and found a tutorial, that worked *great* for Mandrake (man, I hate that distro!). but doesn't seem to work for (K)Ubuntu. The NIC is OK and WOL is working when I poweroff from Windoze. The *only* thing that I haven't tried from that tutorial is modifying the forcedeth.c sources.08:42
Ed_Rgnomefreak: I ended up using automatix because I couldn't find the name of the packages I needed and was sick of spending time trying to solve the problem when I wanted it to Just Work.08:42
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h36sawell.. now that my laptop boots again it's probably about time to upgrade to dapper, yeah?08:43
warthawgmaybe08:43
jjs0ahGUIPEnguin: err. thats how to manually add scripts to run at boot. not sure what you are really after08:43
GUIPEnguinthanks08:43
Grarkchuckyp, I'm trying to figure out how to see what mode i'm running the HD in...hdparm is kind of confusing to me right now...I'm logged in remote and can't really read up on it in it's entirety.08:43
chuckyprysiek|pl, Dunno much about it but your original question was about source code you could always try dpkg -reconfigure <packagename> before trying to mess with the soruce also.08:43
Ed_Rompaul: Thanks for the warning, but I think I'll risk it (and I can't upgrade to Dapper until they're mailing CDs anyway, so it's kind of moot). Any idea when that stuff will be in the apt sources?08:43
rysiek|plchuckyp: so, unless you have an idea on how to make that bloody WOL wotk without editing the forcedeth module's sources, please do tell me what do I need to D/L to get them :)08:43
chuckypGrark, ahh08:43
warthawgso i told shuttleworth, look, dude, don't release it until it's stable, ok08:43
rysiek|plchuckyp: m'kay, thx, trying ;)08:44
ribaldjesterwhere does email downloaded with fetchmail goto?  I set up fetchmail to test downloading gmail stuff and I have no idea where it was downloaded too08:44
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dv_why isnt uade in the official rep?08:44
dv_its gpl isnt it?08:44
ompaulEd_R, well the gnome project need to release it, then the ubuntu maintainers need to polish it and put it into dapper for testing (should not need much) and then okay - so there ya go08:44
Jhairribaldjester: I don't know but I would be surprised if that is not described in the fetchmail man page08:45
ribaldjesterJhair good idea08:45
chuckyprysiek|pl, also for the source i'm not sure but I believe most of it would be apt-get install packagename-source08:45
rysiek|plchuckyp: damn, but you see, the problem is: I have no idea what the package might be. apt-cache search forcedethgives nothing (I suppose it's included in the main kernel sources somewhere)08:45
Grarkchuckyp, if I wanted to make sure it was running in the fastest mode possible.UDMA I believe...where can I see that08:45
ompauldv_, what are you talking about?08:45
dv_ompaul, you know uade?08:45
chuckyprysiek|pl, or something similiar if not you could always apt-cache search packagename and see whats availible.08:45
gnomefreakdv_: gpl doesnt mean that it should be in any repo08:45
Ed_Rompaul: I'd just compile the thing, if I didn't remember what happened the last time I compiled GNOME. Suffice to say I spent the next week looking for my CDs.08:46
ompauldv_, no, what function does it provide?08:46
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chuckypGrark, you just type in sudo hdparm <devicename> i.e. /dev/hda for the primary master ide drive08:46
dv_but whats the problem with it?08:46
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rysiek|plchuckyp: yeah, tried that already - as I said it gives nothing and I suppose it might just included in the main kernel sources08:46
jerwarefellaz08:46
chuckyprysiek|pl, oh this isn't a package you instlaled.  Wake on lan should be a hardware function anyways and os shouldn't really matter.  Is this an onboard card?08:47
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ompauldv_, is that the emulator for amiga?08:47
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chuckyprysiek|pl, is it built on to the motherboard?08:47
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cigahi08:47
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rysiek|plchuckyp: I have written already - YES it is an onboard NIC08:47
dv_ompaul, similar. its the music player for amiga stuff08:47
Grarkchuckyp, yes, I had gotten that far...but this confused me... (using DMA=1) that's good, but what about UDMA?08:47
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Grarkor is there such a thing?08:47
chuckyprysiek|pl, then just make sure in the bios that the card is set to wol then it should work rregardless of os instlaled.08:48
cigahow do I view eps files generated by photoshop? or convert them to jpg or other..08:48
Seveaseps should be viewable wit evince or ggv08:48
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vax_hey gnomefreak I have now reinstalled the package menu-xdg for having a fresh "Debian" menu.. but now it is invisible, how do for reshowing it?08:48
cigaggv?08:48
ompauldv_, well I will say you are the first person I have ever seen to mention it, if you want to work on developing it and bringing it into ubuntu join #ubuntu-motu08:48
cigagnome-gv08:49
pomeevince has issues with pdf's from graphics apps08:49
gnomefreakvax_: restart the menu try using killall gnome-panel08:49
cigais that what you mean?08:49
pomeit doesn't do drop shadows for starters08:49
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chuckypGrark, -v would display all settings but dma=dma08:49
dv_ompaul, the thing is I dont know whats wrong with it right now :)08:49
rysiek|plchuckyp: man, read what I write :]  it works OK when I poweroff from Windoze. It worken from under Mandrake. It doesn't from under Kubuntu08:49
vax_gnomefreak, I have reboot the pc too...08:49
dv_there are morgoth's packages for it08:49
Jhairciga: gimp claims to open eps files... (with eps=Encapsulated PostScript file)08:49
vax_need anyway too kill?08:49
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dv_so the .deb's are already there08:49
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gnomefreakvax_: after installing the menu have you rebooted?08:49
ompauldv_, pop a mail onto the helpmailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users --- very busy ---08:50
vax_gnomefreak, yes08:50
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm08:50
dv_k08:50
chuckyprysiek|pl, well I read what you typed but wake on lan is HARDWARE BASED.  I don't understand the problem maybe but it has nothign to do with os.  I can have my pc WOL to a boot cd if I wanted to with no harddrive installed.  and change to whatever cd I wanted.  THE OS DOENS"T MATTER.08:50
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aeolisthello all, how can i watch a css-protected dvd in linux?08:50
vax_chuckyp, nite08:50
h36salibdecss08:51
chuckyp!tell aeolist about restricted08:51
gnomefreakvax_: run sudo apt-get install menu please let me know what it says08:51
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Grarkchuckyp, ok, thanks again take care.08:51
rysiek|plchukyp: yes, I know. now would you just be so kind and convince my mainboard's onboard nic it's just so, and I'll be a happier man :)08:51
vax_gnomefreak, I have already installed a package called menu and menu-xdg08:51
aeolistthanks chyckyp08:51
aeolistthanks chuckyp08:51
chuckyprysiek|pl, maybe bios update because its probably something goofy with the way you are trying to wake it or its only working intermitently etc...08:52
chuckypanyways I need sleep have to work midnights tonight. l8r everyone08:52
rysiek|plchuckyp: on the same box I have Kubuntu and windoze08:52
rysiek|plahh, whatever08:52
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dammit2Hey, I got this Live Ubuntu CD(for Intel macs with EFI) off sourceforge.. it had no notes that I could download. I cant login to the dam thing cause I dont have a user name or password08:52
dammit2any idea?08:52
gopiWell I installed xawtv.... and no audio again :(08:52
gnomefreakthe only other menu i have is pdmenu i installed that before menu-xdg08:52
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gnomefreakohhhhhh wait08:53
gopiPreviously there was audio !!08:53
gnomefreakvax_: are you on breezy?08:53
vax_gnomefreak, , it say: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:53
vax_gnomefreak, yes on Breezy08:53
cigathanks Jhair, Seveas08:53
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gnomefreakvax_: you have updates running or you have synaptic open08:53
vax_gnomefreak, , ops yes, hehe sorry...08:53
Seveas[Leo] , pleasse turn of public away messages08:53
Seveasthey're horribly annoying08:54
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gnomefreakvax_: in systemtools you should see menu editor you can add debian menu after installing the package in there08:54
vax_gnomefreak, it say the package menu is installed.08:54
gnomefreak^^^ vax_08:54
[Leo] Seveas: ok, i'm sorry...08:54
Mike-_-anyone here cracked a sony vaio eeprom password ?08:54
Mabus06Now give him 50 pushups!08:54
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h36sadapper will work with a breezy-compiled kernel right?08:54
vax_gnomefreak, I've try but it dont allow me to select08:54
Seveash36sa, not ikely08:54
st3v3dndHi all, does 5.10 come with a graphical iptables tool?08:54
Seveasst3v3dnd, firestarter08:55
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h36saSeveas: uh.. why08:55
gnomefreakvax_: than log out log back in if its still not there let me know08:55
Mabus06Seveas: but it's not installed by default is it?08:55
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Seveash36sa, udev/hotplug madness08:55
natroll-st3v3dnd, i think lokkit is another one08:55
SeveasMabus06, correct08:55
st3v3dndSeveas, is it in one of the menus or do I just need to run?08:55
h36sacrap08:55
GUIPEnguinI have worked with linux a long time.. now my question is.. how would having no accessable root account be more secure? and using sudo insted? Your Always login as a normal user anways... and lets say something somehow figures out your password for ssh, or somethign else.. thats just 1 less password they dont need to know to gain root08:55
pauldaousthey, folks, does anybody know about changes to gconf in Breezy? Specifically, after I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy on the school network I run, I can't go gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory anymore. It refuses to make any changes.08:55
Mabus06st3v3dnd: it's in the repos08:55
vax_ok08:55
Seveasst3v3dnd, you need to install it08:56
gnomefreakst3v3dnd: sudo apt-get install firestarter08:56
pauldaoustOr perhaps Sabayon changes stuff?08:56
Tiberianit is suposed to get errors with EasyUbuntu ? o_008:56
st3v3dndcool, thanks guys08:56
_jasonTiberian: not /supposed/ to08:56
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pauldaoustor let me ask this: does anyone have any experience with Sabayon and gconf?08:57
h36saSeveas: do you know if the p4_clockmod bug that keeps p4's over 2ghz is removed in the dapper kernel?08:57
raboofhmm, looks like the flight5 livecd is much improved compared to the 5.10 one - but it no longer autodetects the ethernet card in my powermac g308:57
Seveash36sa, #ubuntu-kernel would know08:57
Tiberianwhat evr it's spelled :P, if it's not supposed to get any, why i'm getting errors? :/08:57
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raboofcan i debug/report that somewhere?08:58
linuxboyfriendhi all08:58
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linuxboyfriendhow can i remove ubuntu games08:58
vax_gnomefreak, nothing to do, I showing it in menu editor but don't allow me to select the checkbox08:58
_jasonTiberian: I wasn't going for the spelling just saying you aren't supposed to get them but it is possible.  Put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and what version are you using?08:58
Mike-_-linuxboyfriend, u can do it in deselect08:58
gnomefreakvax_: why did you uninstall it if you were adding right back?08:58
Tiberianoh.. sorry _jason , my fault :/08:58
Mike-_-dselect*08:58
rysiek|plguys, if I install the kernel-sources-$( uname -r ) package, will I get the modules' sources too?08:58
paganinilinuxboyfriend: sudo apt-get remove gnome-games08:58
GUIPEnguinor does it make it more secure but forcing noobs not to login as root to begin with?08:58
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vax_gnomefreak, because I showing the icon of uninstalled programs and much cloned icons08:59
Mabus06where are the logs relating to ssh?08:59
vax_gnomefreak, just ununstall for a fresh and clean menu08:59
Mabus06To see who has (un)successfully logged in08:59
ribaldjesterwhere is the default mail location for ubuntu?08:59
jjs0ahGUIPEnguin: have you ever rmed your entire etc dir without a backup? man i did that when i was a newb. i did everything in root. bad news08:59
_jasonMabus06: /var/log/auth.log has auth logs for ssh08:59
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gnomefreakvax_: it may have something to do with what it removed with it the 2 apps you gave me had nothing to do with it but thats it08:59
paganiniDoes anyone know how to allow app windows to cover the GNOME panel?08:59
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linuxboyfriendpaganini: but it is also asking to remove gnome and gnome-desktop and i only wanna remove games?08:59
aeolisthello all, how can i watch a css-protected dvd in linux? i read the guide about restricted formats, but still gxine refuses to play the dvd09:00
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: the games come with gnome09:00
paganinilinuxboyfriend: gnome-desktop is ad ummy package09:00
_jasonubotu: tell aeolist about dvd09:00
gopiI had the same problem before with xawtv.... no audio but video alone.... and after a day or two automatically I was able to hear audio also.... And now after reinstalling Ubuntu...the same problem... Plz help me09:00
gnomefreakto remove games you remove gnome09:00
paganinilinuxboyfriend: I think gnome also is09:00
Zoroasterwhat command do I run to see what services are runnning09:00
vax_gnomefreak, Ok :) Thanks you very much09:00
vax_I try later again09:00
paganinilinuxboyfriend: but you should check to make sure first09:00
paganini:)09:00
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h36saZoroaster: ps -awx or top09:00
linuxboyfriendpaganini: but i dont wanna remove gnome09:00
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gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: if you dont like seeing them use the menu editor and uncheck them09:01
vax_gnomefreak, have nice day09:01
gnomefreakor uncheck games for that matter09:01
aeolist_jason, i already have libdvdcss209:01
vax_good bye all09:01
gnomefreakyou too vax_09:01
_jasonaeolist: did you restart gxine?09:01
Tiberian_jason, u can see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1041509:01
paganinilinuxboyfriend: removing the gnome package won't remove the gnome environment.09:02
paganinilinuxboyfriend: I don't even have the gnome package installed09:02
Mabus06how come I can't open gedit from the terminal?09:02
Zoroasterh36sa, thanks09:02
Mabus06(gedit:7033): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:09:02
ubersolidsudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop :)09:02
dammit2Hey, I got this Live Ubuntu CD(for Intel macs with EFI) off sourceforge.. it had no notes that I could download. I cant login to the dam thing cause I dont have a user name or password.. The user name is mactel09:02
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paganinignome and gnome-desktop are dependency packages. You use them to install a bunch of apps at once. Removing doesn't remove any actual software.09:02
dammit2anyne know or have notes?09:02
GUIPEnguinjjs0ah: no because I have never found a reason to login directly as root when I could just su etc....  so basicly ubuntu having a sudoers file and a non-root user is to protect linux users as a whole from their selves? because system wide it is no more secure.. more so less secure sometimes if someone figures out 1 password of yours and doesnt need a root password09:02
_jasonTiberian: hrmm try asking in #easyubuntu09:03
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aeolist_jason, yes i did restart gxine09:03
Felix15hey is it possible to set each workspace with a different background image?09:03
_jasonTiberian: I don't think those are really errors but they would know better09:03
aeolist_jason, i still get the "faulty or protected dvd"... it sure aint faulty though09:03
Mike-_-i have a wlan card but it seems to be off, sort of speak, vaio laptop, how can i turn it on?09:03
gopiIs it possible to get tvtime via package ????09:03
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jjs0ahGUIPEnguin: i am guessing it is to protect users from themselves. but you are right. it is no more or less secure09:03
TiberianOk thanks _jason09:04
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_jasonaeolist: how did you install libdvdcss2?09:04
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Mike-_-pcmcia wlan card09:04
nickrudgopi, apt-cache search tvtime09:04
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ubersoliddoes anybody know the apt repo for enlightenment dr17? I've lost it :(09:04
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linuxboyfriendpaganini: if removing gnome package does not disturb gnome environment then whats in the gnome package?09:04
h36saubersolid: http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/09:04
paganinilinuxboyfriend: nothing is in the gnome package09:05
jjs0ahGUIPEnguin: if you want a root user though, its easy to enable. sudo su -... then change the password09:05
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Mike-_-how do i activate a pcmcia wlan card ?09:05
paganiniIt's a dummy package that depends on many things09:05
paganiniSo when you install it, it installs many things09:05
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ubersolidh36sa, tried that 1 :) it out of date, badly.09:05
paganiniBut nothing depends on *it*09:05
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paganiniSo when you uninstall it, nothing uninstalls09:05
h36saubersolid: let me warn you that it's from like september09:05
h36saubersolid: is there a newer one? :)09:05
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aldousHi, I have a streaming media issue.09:06
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aeolist_jason, the usual way :P i had 1.2.5 from some repository and i dpkg -i it09:06
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: gnome-core is what gives you the gnome de09:06
gnomefreakand its depends09:06
ubersolidh36sa: I had a (something).technatica.(somthing) wich was recent enough but i can't find it anymore09:06
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_jasonaeolist: don't know, did you try a different player than totem-xine?09:07
Pretton esse? gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse09:07
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_jasonPretto: what?09:07
raboof  n09:07
aldousWhen I am running mplayer's plugin, streaming media comes in choppy09:08
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_satans_nyanyone here run ubuntu with fluxbox? i do :)09:08
_jasonaldous: cache more09:08
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gnomefreak_satans_ny: yeah i have it sometimes use it09:08
obliok, how do I disable ctrl-x closing windows? It's the most annoying thing ever09:08
mdmkolb1How do I connect to a VPN (IPSec prefered but PPTP might work)?09:08
benplaut_salavas: E17... i have spoken. -_-09:08
ubersolidh36sa: deb http://enlightenment.technatica.net/breezy09:08
_satans_nygnomefreak: i am thinking of making a live cd. fluxbuntu hehhe09:08
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aldousOkay.. I'll try that.  I did crank it up but I think because I didn't restart the stream it didn't help09:09
paganini_satans_ny: you know about nubuntu09:09
paganini?09:09
aldousthank you!09:09
pauldaousthey, folks, using gconftool-2 --direct used to work for modifying mandatory settings, but now it doesn't change a bloody thing! any ideas? the only changes I've made are upgrading from hoary to breezy, and installing Sabayon09:09
h36saubersolid: nice.. is there one for dapper?09:09
aeolist_jason, i am trying gxine09:09
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ubersolidh36sa: I don't know, since I'm using breezy :) could u kindly tell me how to install the public.key? :)09:09
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aeolist_jason, let me try totem-xien09:09
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Ads_Guys, I'm having a problem running games such as tuxckart and quake2 etc, they just crash after trying to display any gfx :(09:10
pauldaoustAds_: what sort of graphic card do you have?09:10
h36saAds_: try glxgears info09:10
yggdrasilsorry dumbquestion how do i tar upa folder ?09:11
_satans_nypaganini: ye. but that's like a light version of BackTrack09:11
nickrudubersolid, thanks :)09:11
Ads_geforce 6800009:11
_satans_nyan own livecd would be really cool. :)09:11
Ads_6800*09:11
h36saAds_: I have the same card, works well09:11
pauldaoustAds_: have you installed the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages?09:11
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Ads_paulaoust: yes i have09:11
youBun2GnomeBaker is such a great app09:11
youBun2I blank a CD-RW and it fails everytime!09:11
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polpakAds_, what is the output of glxinfo | grep direct09:11
gnomefreakAds_: what does glxgears -printfps give you in way of fps readings09:11
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paganiniHah09:12
paganiniCool09:12
Seveas!help09:12
dabearAlle kommandoer starter med !.Tilgjengelige kommandoer: google, help, uptime, nwf09:12
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andrewf66yggdrassil - something like tar cvf tarname foldername09:12
pauldaoustyggdrasil: tar -cvf yourtarfile.tar yourfolder/09:12
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youBun2-_-09:12
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Ads_gomefreak: i get 13309:13
azaddersearch function for files?09:13
pauldaoustyggdrasil: typing man tar will give you a few good examples of what to do with tar. at any rate, tarfile is specified first, then the files you want to put in that file09:13
yggdrasilok thanks09:13
yggdrasilthat worked greaty09:13
yggdrasilim writing it down haha09:13
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yggdrasili feel so retarted09:13
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gopiHow to install bttv driver please ?09:13
pauldaoustyggdrasil: no prob; we were all there once.09:13
_jasonyouBun2: try k3b09:13
gnomefreakAds_: than its not working in 3d did you install nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx?09:13
youBun2ok09:13
gnomefreakAds_: also what version of ubuntu?09:13
Ads_gnomefreak: i sure did09:13
Ads_gnomefreak: it's breezy09:14
_satans_nypaganini: my own livecd will have fluxbox and xgl. xgl is flippin' sweet09:14
ubersolide17 19 feb : deb http://enlightenment.technatica.net/ breezy/ need to install public.key, please tell me how :D ?09:14
paganiniDoesn't anyone remember being able to put windows over the GNOME panel?09:14
paganiniHehe09:14
paganiniXGL09:14
paganiniWoot09:14
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paganiniSlows things down, but looks really cool.09:14
gnomefreakAds_: did you run the enable command?09:14
h36sapaganini: how's the performance09:14
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h36saahh09:15
Ads_gnomefreak: yes09:15
gopiHow to install bttv driver please ?09:15
h36saAds_: you odn't have glx extensions working09:15
paganinih36sa: it actually wasn't that bad, except that it took *really* long to load. Also, it caused some screen artifacts, like smearing in XCHAT when I would scroll through the buffer.09:15
gopiIs bttv by default installed in Ubuntu ?09:15
h36sayou should get like 7000 in the windowed size09:15
[u] Rawhy is that everything so slow in ubuntu? comparing to Windows XP :(09:15
NsOmNiAchas anyone here used Automatix?09:15
gnomefreakAds_: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg and make sure your seeing right card and nvidia drivers?09:15
h36sa[u] Ra: just is09:16
gnomefreak!automatix09:16
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.09:16
ubersolidnsomniac, I've tried it09:16
gopi!bttv09:16
ubotugopi: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:16
paganini[u] Ra: next version of GNOME should be faster.09:16
h36sa[u] Ra: but you can do way more stuff at the same time so it's more efficient09:16
bimberigopi: the module is there yes, 'sudo modprobe bttv'09:16
Ads_gnomefreak: yes xorg is setup correctly i went through it again recently with no problems, everything seems fine09:16
gnomefreakubotu tell NsOmNiAc about easyubuntu09:16
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gopibimberi: oh i see.. how to install then ?09:16
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[u] Rah36sa,  exactly in this particular way I get worse results than in XP09:16
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gnomefreakAds_: than i would say reboot if everything is installed and set up right you should have it (is the card good?)09:17
[u] Rait's slower solvine several problems at the same time09:17
NsOmNiActhanks gnomefreak I don't need it was just wondering if it were any good09:17
h36sa[u] Ra: doubtful09:17
[u] Rasolving*09:17
bimberigopi: 'sudo modprobe bttv'09:17
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h36sawindows is unusable under load :)09:17
gopibimberi: I did09:17
Ads_gnomefreak: yes the card is good i hope i am going to reboot now..i'll be right back09:17
bimberigopi: check its presence with 'lsmod | grep bttv'09:17
paganini[u] Ra: Also, kubuntu is faster, if you don't want to wait09:18
[u] Rawell, I could switch between applications like Firefox in XP and let say mIRC way faster, clicking and getting desktop properties in the same way09:18
[u] Raso is that gnome's break?09:18
h36sa[u] Ra: yeah but that's not really a load09:18
h36saI mean compiling stuff/encoding dvds/whatever.. ubuntu should be much more responsive while doing that stuff09:18
Tiberianwhat is better? Ubuntu or Kubuntu? just a Random thought o009:18
gopibimberi: It showed a list ...09:18
h36sabut yeah, on an idle system (just irc/browser) winxp is going to be faster09:19
paganiniTiberian: Hard to say. Kubuntu runs faster on my system and has pretty colors. But the GNOME apps in ubuntu are better in my opinion.09:19
silvaranTiberian: It's a matter of personal preference.09:19
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bimberigopi: that indicates that it is loaded09:19
[u] Rawell, what I noticed in monitoring tool there is a big load of RAM, I've dedicated 700 for swap, but still now it takes 70% of my ram for applications running, in XP it was only 5009:19
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[u] Ra:P09:19
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silvaran[u] Ra: Where are you getting the memory usage information?09:19
h36sa[u] Ra: that's a good thing :)09:20
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h36salinux can actually make use of your ram..09:20
TiberianI see... but they are the same? (almost)09:20
batmanhello can someone tell me why my sound settings go back to default after i close the alsa mixer when i set it myself?09:20
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h36sahaving a bunch of free ram (instead of caches and buffers) is pointless09:20
silvaranbatman: I think it's a bug, I get it too (occasionally)09:20
[u] Rasilvaran, it's a system Monitor09:20
Tiberiani mean, w/ Ubuntu i have problems with my Video cart, will i have with kubuntu too ?09:20
azadderis there a search function for files on my system?09:20
batmansilvaran, it happens to me all the time :(09:20
paganiniTiberian: kubuntu has different applications - it uses KONQUEROR for browsing the net and filesystem, KONVERSATION for IRC, KOPETE for instant messaging, ADEPT for package management, etc.09:20
silvaran[u] Ra: try jumping to a shell and typing "free"... look at the line that says "+/- buffers/cache" -- that'll give you the real memory usage.09:20
paganiniTiberian: but the underlying system is the same.09:21
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paganiniTiberian: they use the same repositories, and so on09:21
[u] Rah36sa,  you say it's better when it completely owns resources but sharing it between application in the best way?09:21
Tiberiani see... so i will have problems with kubuntu too...09:21
h36sa[u] Ra: uh what?09:21
Tiberianwell, thanks paganini :)09:21
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paganiniTiberian: Probably. They are not different linuxes; just different desktops.09:22
h36saI'm saying that it's a good thing to be using your ram09:22
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batmandoes anyone know of a way to set the sound card default settings and keep them that way?09:22
paganiniTiberian: No problem. :)09:22
silvaranTiberian: ubuntu/kubuntu both run on top of X, which is the real guy responsible for the video stuff.09:22
aeolist_jason, nothing new with totem-xine09:22
h36saram is much faster than a disk09:22
h36sabatman: alsactl store09:22
paganiniTiberian: what kind of video card to you have, anyway?09:22
mweTiberian: maybe you can fix your video problems09:22
batmanh36sa, in the terminal?09:22
h36sayeah09:22
Tiberianpaganini, ATi Radeon 920009:22
h36saprobably sudo alsactl restore   actually09:23
[u] Rasilvaran, I did it and I'm a little bit shocked :D09:23
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batmanh36sa, is that after i set it with the gui alsa mixer?09:23
[u] RaMem:        255276     250684       4592 - the last one is free09:23
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Tiberianmwe, how? :P09:23
mweTiberian: afaik it should be possible to get 3d acceleration with that card09:23
h36sabatman: yeah09:23
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silvaran[u] Ra: What's the second line say?09:23
mwe!ati09:23
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:23
h36saTiberian: you can use the ati driver with that09:23
_jasonaeolist: I would try other disks to make sure it's not the disk, other than that try asking the channel again09:23
[u] Rasilvaran,  -/+ buffers/cache:     207832      4744409:24
aeolist_jason, i already did that, it's not the disk09:24
aeolistbaah!09:24
Tiberianh36sa, i did d/l the ati drivers with easyubuntu.. sot sure but i get some errors :/09:24
silvaran[u] Ra: You only have 256MB of ram?09:24
azadderis there an app that will let me search my system fo files?09:24
mweTiberian: read what ubotu pointed at. it should tell you how to make it work09:24
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h36saand actually, the ati driver started working for my M7 7500 (used to need the radeon driver)09:24
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[u] Rasilvaran, yes09:24
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paganinisilvaran: *I* only have 256MB of ram, and ubuntu is running fine.09:24
h36sa[u] Ra: you should kill some services09:24
Tiberianmwe, i'll try.. thanks :)))09:24
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silvaranpaganini: My point was I mis-read one of his earlier posts :)09:25
gnomefreakazadder: places>search for files09:25
Ads_gnomefreak: you still here?09:25
GUIPEnguinim trying to get my resolution set to 1920x1200  I have /etc/X11/xorg.config open and I dont see any modelines for the modes set... yeah "1280x1024" is nice for a human but unless it matches to a set modeline it is usless... is there any ubuntu "setup" you can run agan? because normaly in gentoo I would just use xorgconfig utility09:25
gopiWEll plz help me... Sound is still not working in xawtv :(09:25
gnomefreakyep09:25
paganinisilvaran: Aha. I must have also misread; I missed that. ;)09:25
h36samy laptop is using 128mb (of 512) and it's doing a dist-upgrade and using firefox09:25
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Ads_gnomefreak: i've noticed my cpu jumps to 100% when i run glxgears09:25
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h36saGUIPEnguin: I've got my laptop running at that09:25
aeolisthello all, i cant watcha css protected dvd. i have already installed libdvdcss2, tried other programs and other disks on the puter, any ideas?09:26
h36sa1 sec I'll get you the line09:26
connhi, can someone tell what program to use to record a video of my desktop?09:26
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Tempest2k anybody no why my xgl sweems to crash my server when i reboot or restart gdm , i get black and white squares and system just hangs09:26
GUIPEnguink thanks09:26
richardwhich program can i use to burn cd's and dvd's?09:26
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gnomefreakAds_: how much memory do you have?09:26
mweh36sa: free -m is saying the system is just using 128 MB ?09:26
aeolistrichard, k3b, gnomebaker, cdrdao09:26
edanhow do i chek if i have a multiprocessor system and how do i enable "Symmetric multi-processing support" (SMP) without recompiling my kernel??09:26
[u] Rah36sa, can I kill them from System Monitor?09:26
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Ads_gnomefreak: 256mb09:26
gnomefreakand Ads_ how much memory did you tell xorg to use for vc?09:26
DaviXhey, I am currently logd as root in a friend's pc (running ubuntu) and he claims since last reboot his screen resolution is 640-480 and he can't change it from X, how can I update it from the terminal? (I tried altering xorg.conf yet everything is still viewed big for him)09:26
paganiniHEhe, I have 7MB free memory09:26
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h36samwe: haha no.. without buffers and cache09:27
silvaranedan: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'processor'09:27
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_jasonubotu: tell DaviX about fixres09:27
silvaranedan: How many lines does that print?09:27
mweh36sa: yeah09:27
edanSilencer, just 1 sec09:27
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Ads_gnomefreak: i specified 128 the amount on my card09:27
richardaeolist: i use gnomebaker but it show me an error for that reason i will try with k3b ... thank you09:27
DaviXthanks _jason09:27
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edanSilencer, just 109:28
gnomefreakAds_: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and leave the memory for vc blank09:28
sgrgc#help09:28
[u] Rahow can Firefox take 139 MB of ram? by System Monitor09:28
silvaranedan: Then you have 1 CPU :)09:28
mweh36sa: but it makes sense not to count the cache. it will always be almos full after a while of application switching anyway :)09:28
[u] Rait's embarrasing09:28
edanooo :)09:28
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h36saGUIPEnguin: Modeline "1920x1200" 161.750000 1920 2020 2052 2184 1200 1202 1208 1235 -HSync -VSync09:28
Ads_gnomefreak: ok i will give it a try09:28
edanthnx09:28
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GUIPEnguinthanks09:28
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h36samwe: that was my whole point to [u] Ra about using ram being a good thing09:28
punkrockguy318Is there anyway to log out of gnome through the command line?09:28
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batmanh36sa, that still didn't save my custom settings for me :S09:28
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h36sabut he actually needs more ram or to run less stuff cause he only has 40 megs for buffers/cache/free09:29
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mweh36sa: I missed that09:29
thomas_hello09:29
paganinipunkrockguy318: ctrl + alt + backspace will kill your X server09:29
benplautSeveas: ?09:29
thomas_i got ubuntu dapper drake on! now i need a bit of help gettin 3d acceleration on09:29
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Seveasbenplaut, ?09:29
thomas_had to use bios defaults to get the install to go09:29
h36sabatman: that's how you do it in gentoo at least.. maybe do alsamixer then alsactl store afterwards09:29
benplautwhat were all the ban removals for?09:29
gnomefreakthomas_: dapper should be in #ubuntu+109:29
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paganinipunkrockguy318: ctrl + shift + F(x) will drop you into terminal mode without killing your X server, I believe.09:29
thomas_k thx09:29
gnomefreakyw09:30
Seveasbenplaut, for removing bans...09:30
h36sabatman: you also need to set your box up to run alsactl restore when you want them set..09:30
silvaranbenplaut: fun09:30
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gnomefreakspring cleaning Seveas ?09:30
punkrockguy318paganini: yes, you are right.. but how can I logout of gnome completely?09:30
benplaut-_-09:30
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Seveasgnomefreak, no, just a few of the older bans09:31
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paganinipunkrockguy318: At the login screen when you first login, or after you kill the X-Server, there should be a little menu where you can selet your session. One of the options is a terminal login.09:31
gnomefreakah09:31
paganiniAt least, on my system it is.09:31
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azadderamule says that the directory path to one of the files I downloaded is : /home/doug/.xMule/incoming  but I can't seem to get to that directory because it doesn't exist09:32
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azadderany ideas?09:32
h36sa[u] Ra: what are you running that's using 200mb?09:32
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jbrouhardHey.. is there a reason why, after running totem, i get kded crashes all the time ?09:32
h36saopenoffice or something big?09:32
jbrouhardso far, i've had 25 popups...09:32
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ompaulgnomefreak, really its part of his plan to take over the world :-) {not sure how that works though}09:32
h36sajbrouhard: totem is a piece of shit09:32
antifuchshi, everyone.09:32
jbrouhardWell, that's obvious09:32
gnomefreak;)09:32
Healothell no... not totem-xine :)09:32
h36saI've still yet to have it play a piece of media successfully09:32
ompaulh36sa, language please09:32
jbrouhardbut why would toten crashing cause kded to crash too ?09:32
punkrockguy318paganini: yes, this is true.. But here's my scenario... I'm logged into a gnome session.  I would like to logout by typing a command in the terminal09:32
h36sajbrouhard: see about comment09:33
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Tempest2kmplayert worked for me09:33
h36sayou should get mplayer09:33
Tempest2kmplayer worked for me09:33
=== paganini uses totem-xine, and it works great
DaviX_jason still big mate09:33
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=== gnomefreak thought totem used gnome libs :(
paganinipunkrockguy318: Hmm09:33
jbrouharduhm...09:33
h36sanah totem is default for kde09:33
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jkeIs there a channel for dapper, or are this one used for dapper-talk?09:33
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gnomefreakjke: #ubuntu+1 for dapper09:34
_jasonDaviX: you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the new resolution with space bar then rpessed enter?09:34
Healotgnomefreak, it does... but not the media part, jsut the UI part09:34
dReadMoReit's possible to create a persistent hdd partition as knoppix do, running ubuntu, without installing it!?09:34
jbrouharddoesn't explain why kded is crashing...09:34
DaviX_jason sure did, followed the manual step by step09:34
jbrouhardany suggestions on how to fix it?09:34
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jbrouhardi'm running apt-get upgrade right now..09:34
h36sajbrouhard: avoid totem :)09:34
jkegnomefreak: thanks09:34
gnomefreakHealot: yeah so toem itsself shouldnt have anything to do with kde crash that would be a media thing09:35
jbrouhard*sigh*09:35
jbrouhardthat's not a fix09:35
_jasonDaviX: hrmm that usualy works...try asking the channel again and include that that didn't work09:35
MnemicGuys, how can i know my Kernels version ?09:35
jbrouhardi'm up to 50 crash windows.. all on kded.. how can I stop that?09:35
h36salol, you can buy $399 laptops at frys now09:35
gnomefreakMnemic: uname -r09:35
_jasonMnemic: uname -r09:35
DaviXok thanks _jind09:35
DaviXjason even09:35
ubersolidg'night everybody!09:35
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Mnemicty both :)09:35
Healotwth are you talking about, gnomefreak ?09:35
gnomefreakjbrouhard: use gnome see if it does same thing?09:35
ron_mnemic uname -a works great09:35
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jbrouhardUh...09:35
jbrouhardGnome doesn't use kded09:35
youBun2holy god09:35
youBun2does nothing on ubuntu work09:36
gnomefreakjbrouhard: either does totem09:36
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[u] Rah36sa, firefox is using 139 mb:P perhaps it because my browser wasn't upgraded with all applications in autoupdate09:36
youBun2k3b is unable to erase my cdrw09:36
batmansilvaran, i figured out what kept reseting my sound settings its every time i open a music application ex: xmms09:36
youBun2jesus christ09:36
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ron_anyone had anyluck with fglrx?09:36
gnomefreakyouBun2: language09:36
h36sa[u] Ra: lots of tabs or something?09:36
emanuelezanybody experiencing sound problems with dapper after a recent apt-get update?09:36
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Mnemici guess i need != 386 kernel as i use AMD ... am i corect ?09:36
youBun2with all due respect, jesus christ is the name of the messiah in some religions09:36
_jasonyouBun2: are you able to burn cd's?09:36
h36saMnemic: no09:36
[u] Rah36sa,  not really, 709:36
FalstiusMnemic: i386 will work .. k8 will work better.09:37
bimberiemanuelez: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions09:37
gnomefreakemanuelez: no but ask in #ubuntu+1 please09:37
youBun2how does that constitute 'laungage' on the same level as the f-word?09:37
HealotMnemic, AMD CPU are x86, thus 386 does fine09:37
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paganinipunkrockguy318: So, just switching to terminal mode and killing the x server won't work for you?09:37
youBun2_jason: no09:37
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h36sa[u] Ra: firefox caches websites you've visited on each tab for like the last 10 pages.. so that could be what's using your memory09:37
FalstiusyouBun2: depending on your beliefs its worse.09:37
emanuelezbimberi: thx... i was looking for "dapper" in the channel list... sorry09:37
batmanh36sa, do you have to do the alsactl restore every time you open up a music player ex: xmms, mplayer?09:37
bimberiemanuelez: np :)09:37
gnomefreakyouBun2: that is blaspheming to some people09:37
Healotubuntu+1. emanuelez09:37
_jasonyouBun2: paste the output of the 'groups' command09:37
MnemicHealot, so... 386 will work too.. but maybe it's better K7 ?09:37
void^firefox devours memory09:37
Healotyes...09:37
[u] Rabtw. how should I update my applications like Firefox here? should I download all from official site and compile it or there is some package system or port system upgrade available?09:37
ron__Can't chdir(klibido-0.2.3): No such file or directory at (eval 1) line 3 <--??09:37
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h36saI'd recommend spending $20 and getting another 256M or try killing some other stuff you need, maybe run xfce or e16 or something instead of kde09:38
Healotbetter, a lot better09:38
gnomefreakvoid^: what else is new lol09:38
MnemicTy Healot  :>09:38
h36sabatman: no, just after you boot09:38
dyggMeraldanyone here with experience of running a Playstation emulator on breezy09:38
mwe!ff1509:38
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mwe09:38
batmanh36sa, well i have to every time i do >.<09:38
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bimberiubotu tell [u] Ra  about ff1.509:38
mwe!firefox1509:38
ubotufrom memory, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org09:38
youBun2well either way jesus christ is the name of a man from long ago09:38
youBun2back on topic09:38
dReadMoReit's possible to create a persistent hdd partition as knoppix do, running ubuntu, without installing it!?09:38
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youBun2K3b has now froze and will nto close -_-09:38
[u] Rah36sa, yeah probably, because by mistake I pushed a folder in links and got like 20 tabs in a row09:38
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LazyAngelis there something wrong with the respsitory servers?09:39
h36sahaha09:39
gnomefreakLazyAngel: what one?09:39
FalstiusyouBun2: are you running kubuntu or gnome?  I don't really know how to help you, just curious.09:39
[u] Ra;] 09:39
paganiniLazyAngel, doesn't seem to be09:39
youBun2Ubuntu09:39
LazyAngelgnomefreak: archive.ubuntu.com09:39
youBun2which i would guess is Gnome09:39
gnomefreakLazyAngel: no they are working fine09:39
gnomefreakhere atleast09:39
h36sa[u] Ra: try rebooting, opening firefox to google (just 1 tab) and check your memory usage (+/- buffers/cache) .. if you've got less than like 100mb free you should get more ram probably09:39
youBun2I have high hopes for Ubuntu but simple tasks such as running a DVD and burning a DVD-RW etc. are just tedious09:40
batmanhas anyone here succesfully installed quake 3 on ubuntu?09:40
FalstiusyouBun2: yes ... I remember there were all kinds of trouble with k3b back in the olden days (its a kde app) ... maybe try gnome baker.  Or find someone here who uses k3b.09:40
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h36sabatman: copy a windows install over and it'll work09:40
LazyAngelgnomefreak: ohh... i just had to press "reload" :D09:40
batmanh36sa, i tried09:40
NefassLKRaider, eu achei um site09:40
paganiniyouBun2: did you read the Restricted Formats page on the wiki? That worked fine for me09:40
NefassKubuntu-BR.Org09:40
youBun2Heh, I think I will just slam the disc in my PowerBook and erase it like a normal computer should do.09:40
h36sabatman: I've had q3 running on freebsd and gentoo before.. I'm sure it works with ubuntu09:40
Nefassele ensina09:40
youBun2But in all honesty, this OS isn't as good as it can be though09:40
nickrudLazyAngel, you got your boot fixed i see09:40
LKRaiderNefass: conseguiu?09:40
_jasonyouBun2: paste the output of the 'groups' command09:41
ron__Can't chdir(klibido-0.2.3): No such file or directory at (eval 1) line 3 <--??09:41
Nefasseu ainda tenho que instalar uns programas09:41
punkrockguy318paganini: you could do that, but your gnome session wouldn't be saved.  I'm not sure if it's possible.. I'm going to file a bug report09:41
batmanh36sa, so just copy over my install from windows?09:41
Nefasso kde-core09:41
paganinipunkrockguy318: Ah, I see.09:41
youBun2the stupid restrictions between this, with OS X and XP is silly09:41
_jason!pt09:41
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.09:41
punkrockguy318paganini: I'd like to have a script at the end of the day that backs up and logs me out09:41
h36sabatman: yeah... then find a howto and make sure you've got the dir/files with the proper caps09:41
batmanh36sa, i'll do it again and tell you the error message i get...09:41
ompaulyouBun2, you seem to be conversing more than (A) helping or (B) requesting help - chat about ubuntu is done in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic09:41
bluefoxicyE: Package libicu28-dev has no installation candidate09:41
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youBun2_jason: I would love to know where I will find the 'output of the groups command'09:41
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paganinipunkrockguy318: I think your best bet is just to logout, and then drop to a terminal from the gdm login screen.09:41
gnomefreakbluefoxicy: did you enable the src repos?09:41
_jasonyouBun2: applications menu > accessories > terminal, enter 'groups', press enter09:41
youBun2ompaul: My aim here is simple - I have trouble starting up Windows XP with a dual boot09:42
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youBun2jason has been helping me09:42
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h36sayouBun2: grub or lilo?09:42
youBun2so perhaps you should read a little in to all the comments i have said here before making such an insinuation hm?09:42
gnomefreak:(09:42
youBun2ok now then09:43
mwebluefoxicy: you need to enable universe09:43
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youBun2_jason:09:43
youBun2-_-09:43
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youBun2can't even c&p the line09:43
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youBun2give me a minute to type it out09:43
h36saanswer me fool or I can't help you09:43
youBun2admin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner09:43
Healotbluefoxicy, you need to explore the universe09:43
youBun2ah09:43
youBun2there we go09:43
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_jasonyouBun2: either use ctrl+shift+c or highlight it with your mouse and middle click here09:43
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[u] Ragnome-panel is taking up 30 mb of ram - is that normal?09:44
bluefoxicygnomefreak, mwe, Healot:  It has 34 instead of 2809:44
youBun2I see - with OS X it is Command+C so I should've guessed that it would be different via linux09:44
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bluefoxicyHowever the following packages replace it:09:44
bluefoxicy  libicu34-dev09:44
youBun2_jason: admin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner09:44
Mabus06[u] Ra: mine is taking 21.1mb ... dunno09:44
mwe!info libicu28-dev09:44
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Auciwhat the command to fix issues?09:44
ubotulibicu28-dev: (International Components for Unicode (development files)), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 2.8-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5201 kB, Installed size: 15700 kB09:44
Aucicant remember09:44
[u] Rasome gnome-cups-icons taking up 36 , some procs taking too much, dunno what for09:44
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[u] Ra:(09:44
Mabus06mwe: /query ubotu09:45
gnomefreakbluefoxicy: if you have dapper repos in breezy that will cause that and thats bad09:45
gnomefreak(including backports)09:45
jke[U] Ra: just under 15 at me09:45
pospeselrdoes anyone have any experience with trolltech's gui making program, designer ?09:45
Auciis there a way to repair ubuntu within the OS?09:45
h36sa[u] Ra: yeah you should go disable stuff :)09:45
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h36saAuci: probably the only way?09:45
mwepospeselr: a little, but it's probably off topic09:45
flax^^omg, i suck at this :P uhm, how do i mount the disk /dev/sda1  ?09:45
Healotunicode dev, eh... for breezy dev, should be libicu28-dev09:45
Mabus06Auci: 'fix' in what way?09:45
h36saflax^^: mount -t fstype /dev/sda1 /mnt/mountpoint09:46
[u] Raok I will be back09:46
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flax^^k tnx09:46
youBun2Can someone tell me what I must do to quit an app that is NOT responding?09:46
Aucilet me get the error im getting09:46
h36sayouBun2: kill pid09:46
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  in dapper09:46
gnomefreakbluefoxicy: your using dapper?09:47
youBun2kill pid?09:47
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mweyouBun2: ps aux to find the pid then kill or kill -9 it09:47
h36sayeah09:47
youBun2I suppose I type that in Terminal?09:47
h36sakill pid09:47
conncan someone tell me what program I can use to record my desktop to a video file?09:47
_jasonconn: istanbul09:47
h36saor sudo killall -9 processname if it's stubborn09:47
gnomefreakbluefoxicy: you can try to install the package you have for it and see if it works09:47
bimbericonn: istanbul is one09:47
AuciE: /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb: files list file for package `dmidecode' is missing final newline09:47
Auci. this is why i get when i try to install after i downloaded the updates,09:47
HealotyouBun2, stab that program many times, it will die :)09:48
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paganini!!09:48
ubotupaganini: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:48
Auciit is making me crazy, im a newbie in all sense of the word. on linux.09:48
paganini(oops)09:48
mweheh09:48
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_jasonsearching the forums about youBun2's problem seems to suggest he may need to run his cd burning program as root.  I doubt sudo'ing gnomebaker is the correct way to do this... alternative suggestions?09:48
Mnemic!ati09:48
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:48
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HowitzerI'm following http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot BUT: they don't mention how to disable the services, do i have to untick every box then?09:48
thomas_the ppl in #ubuntu+l dont wanna help[ at all so can someone here help me setup nvidia driver 3d acceleration on ubuntu dapper drake f5...09:48
h36sa_jason: uh.. normally there is a cdr group or something, or you setuid the binary09:49
thomas_im not a complete newb just dont wanna mess my stuff09:49
h36sak3b has an option to +s the binary09:49
silvaran!tell thomas_ about xgl09:49
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gnomefreakthomas_: give me two mins ill be in there09:49
silvaranthomas_: Really, that's the only thing I needed to follow to get it up and running on my nvidia card.09:49
youBun2Eventually, when the problem is sorted, I intend to be a regular Ubuntu community member - obviously I have to prioritise everything don't I - hence sorting out my dual boot problem ;-)09:49
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Psykushey, I installed XP on another partition after ubuntu, and it seems to have wiped out lilo/grub/whatever...is there anyway to install it without installing ubuntu again?09:49
HealotI freaking need the AT command for my LG cellphone...09:50
Psykusubuntu is still on a partition, but the bootloader has been replaced with XPs09:50
Kyral!RecoverGrub09:50
ubotumethinks recovergrub is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:50
ompaul_jason, the user should be in the group cdrom (typically 24) and to do this we use the program vigr09:50
h36sathomas_: go to www.nvidia.com, download the x86 or amd64 binary driver, chmod +x ~/downloads/NVIDIA*, sudo ~/downloads/NVIDIA-xxx-xxx09:50
h36sapretty easy to do actually09:50
_jasonompaul: hrmm he's in cdrom, I guess it must be something else than09:50
thomas_k cool09:50
silvaranh36sa: I think it might be better to use the repo nvidia binaries.09:50
h36sawhy09:50
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thomas_i just did a fresh install just wanan get xgl going09:50
ompaul_jason, is it buring anything?09:50
silvaranthomas_: Don't forget the nvidia driver (follow the dapper instructions)09:50
h36sathey aren't working for him09:50
PsykusKyral, thanks09:51
silvaran!tell thomas_ about nvidia09:51
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_jasonyouBun2: so that means I don't know, let ompaul know what it does when you try to burn and he might be able to help you more09:51
silvaranh36sa: He hasn't tried them yet.09:51
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h36saanyone got a less cpu-intensive alternative to gdesklets?09:51
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h36saI think it's a joke that my cpu monitor uses 15% of my cpu...09:51
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ompaulyouBun2, so tell me when you put a blank into the CDwriter does it appear on your desktop?09:52
youBun2Alright! At the moment though I am running a process which sn123 has given me in my thread09:52
h36sagnomefreak: you need glx support to load it?09:52
youBun2ompaul: Yes, it appears blank09:52
gnomefreakh36sa: no you need 3d to use it09:52
ispikedhow do I set mountpoints for the logical volumes I make in the installer?09:52
h36sa3d=glx09:52
silvaranyouBun2: Do you have Places->CD/DVD Creator?09:52
ompaulyouBun2, what do you want to burn with it?09:52
gnomefreakh36sa: for nvidia it is but not for ati09:52
h36saok09:53
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youBun2silvaran, No, I do not09:53
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h36sabut he obviously has an nvidia card..09:53
youBun2ompaul, I would like to burn SystemRescueCD09:53
jessy_is it possible to copy something in console and having the current progress ? like with a progress bar or only percent09:53
silvaranyouBun2: sudo apt-get install nautilus-cd-burner09:53
gnomefreakh36sa: yes !nvidia might help him more though09:53
ompaulyouBun2, where is it on your file system on the desktop or in your home directory?09:53
raboofok. so the livecd doesn't autodetect that it needs to load the 'snd-powermac' and 'bmac' kernel modules when running on a Powermac G3 B/W09:54
youBun2ompaul, It is located on 'Desktop'09:54
youBun2silvaran, Do I run that command via 'Terminal' ?09:54
silvaranyouBun2: Yup09:54
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ompaulyouBun2, right click on the cdname.iso file and choose "write" from that popup menu09:55
Remonsterwhere do programs that synaptic install go? i can't find it09:56
ispikedRemonster: various places on the hdd.09:56
gnomefreakRemonster: depends on where they need to go09:56
youBun2ompaul, Thank you for your help on this - but at the moment I need to ERASE the data on my current CD-RW _09:56
Remonsterpoop09:56
azurehuesofblueI think you can use a which command to find programs09:56
paganiniHeheh09:56
KyralRemenic, generally someplace in /usr09:56
_jasonRemonster: what program09:56
azurehuesofbluewhich xchat09:56
flax^^uhm, i think that ill have to unmount or something (/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw))09:56
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Remonsterbittorrent09:56
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youBun2ompaul, Infact, I will erase on my PowerBook and then write on here09:56
gnomefreakRemonster: linux fs is alot smarter than windows file system ;)09:56
youBun2=P09:57
warthawgis there a way to rip to mp3 format in ubuntu?09:57
KyralRemonster, if you know the command, then just do "which <command>"09:57
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h36saflax^^: no09:57
mweRemonster: sometimes the new shortcut wont appear until next login. dpkg -L <package>|grep bin will usually show the binary name09:57
Remonsteryea, windows keeps dying when i ran bittorrent, so i'm trying linux09:57
ompaulyouBun2, whatever you want but seems like a lot of effort for 20p worth of disk09:57
h36saflax^^: what are you trying to mount, what filesystem is it, and where do you want to mount it?09:57
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paganiniwarthog: yes09:57
ompaulyouBun2, you could also install k3b09:57
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Remonsteroh, i didn't know that, i'll restart then, thanks!09:58
warthawgpaganin:  thanks, which package is it, please?09:58
paganiniWarthog: Do you want to rip from CD?09:58
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warthawgpaganini, yes09:58
paganiniwarthawg: Soundjuicer installs by default with ubuntu09:58
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Tamsiei. When I now login to my gnome desktop on ubuntu 5.10 , gaim starts and logs on automatically and a folder on my desktop pops wide open. How do I disable those two actions?09:58
paganiniAnd then you need to install MP3 capability09:58
warthawgah, some plugins?09:58
pospeselrSorry about before, had to get a package; does anyone have any experience with trolltech's gui making program, designer?09:58
paganiniWhich, I think, is gstreamer0.8-mad09:58
warthawgthanks, paganini09:58
paganiniBut, you should check the Restricted Formats page on the ubuntu wiki09:59
gnomefreakTamsie: the gaim settings iirc09:59
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warthawgok, will check that09:59
pospeselrIt loads whenever I run it, but it doesn't display any fonts, which makes using it a bit difficult09:59
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thomas_ok guys i got the nvidia driver installed on ubuntu09:59
katarotcan someone check this for me to see if iam doing it correctly09:59
katarothttp://pastebin.com/60802709:59
thomas_now whats the link to get xgl and compiz setup?09:59
thomas_on dapper drake f509:59
youBun2ompaul, I have installed both GnomeBaker and K3B and both fail to erase my CD-RW09:59
gnomefreakthomas_: are you gonna go into #ubuntu+1 so i can help you?09:59
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h36saTamsie: go system->preferences->sessions and see if you have stuff being autoloaded, or close the stuff, click logout and click the save my settings button09:59
rysiek|plGuys, what kernel source packages should I install - kernel-source-* or kernel-tree-*09:59
thomas_sure man09:59
nickrudTamsie, try closing those windows, then hitting alt-f2 and entering gnome-session-save , and then enter.09:59
Xenhello... I have a quick question. how do i prevent my mounted volumes from showing up on my desktop in gnome?09:59
youBun2ompaul, and at this time, this CD-RW is the only one I have to play around with until I buy some more this weekend10:00
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h36sayouBun2: I don't even think you can burn 650mb on a cd-rw10:00
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scarabatworkcan anyone here tell me why a wireless device that has been working steadily for the past 3 weeks would suddenly disappear from the list of available devices?10:00
ispikedneed help on how to set up lvm with the installer.10:01
Mabus06Is there a tool somebody can reccomend to check a list of proxies for one that works? It's tedious going through a bunch of ones that don't work.10:01
h36sascarabatwork: you using ndiswrapper?10:01
ispikedI don't know what to name stuff, or what I need.10:01
ispikedMabus06: write a script to ping all them?10:01
youBun2h36sa, That depends on the make of CD-RW10:01
techrushive had that happen to me before scarabatwork sorry to say i could not figure out what the problem was10:01
scarabatworkno, is a cisco wireless card10:01
ispikedMabus06: ping might not mean working, though.10:01
h36sascarabatwork: I've had WEIRD stuff happen with wifi cards (like they die for weeks at a time then just start working, or require me to boot windows to reset them, or whatever..10:01
scarabatworkvery confusing10:01
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flax^^how do i unmount disks?10:01
h36sascarabatwork: what driver10:01
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nickrudXen, Applications -> System Tools -> Config Editor , then open the tree and look for apps/nautilus/desktop/ and uncheck volumes_visible10:02
h36saflax^^: umount /mnt/mountpoint10:02
ispikedflax^^: umount <mount point>10:02
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Healotumount <device> or umount <mount point>10:02
paganiniflax^^: sudo umount <wherever>10:02
Healotuse "eject" to open+unmount at the same time10:02
scarabatworkh36a: not sure... how can i tell10:02
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ispikedanyone used lvm with the installer?10:02
scarabatworkh36a: since it worked by default, i never worried with it10:03
ispikedI need to know what lvms to make...10:03
Xennickrud: Thanks! it worked.10:03
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h36sascarabatwork: check dmesg, or give me the lspci output for the network card10:03
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Mabus06ispiked: I've never written scripts, but I've programmed in some languages... should I look up bash or is there something else I should look up to get a program to traverse through a list of proxies and ping them?10:04
Tamsieis there a way to disable from within gnome?10:04
flax^^"umount: /: that drive is busy"10:04
zax1any one really familiar with wamp ? or know irc channel for it ?10:04
ispikedflax^^: stop viewing it.10:04
h36saTamsie: christ.. didn't you read what I told you?10:04
paganiniflax^^: I don't think you want to unmount your root filesystem10:04
h36sahaha10:04
ompaulh36sa, language10:04
h36saflax is lost10:04
flax^^yeep :D10:04
ispikedMabus06: to be honest, I don't know if a ping response means working or not. a bash or python script would seem appropriate, though.10:04
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flax^^xD10:04
h36saflax^^: once again. what are you trying to mount, what's the filesystem and where do you want it mounted10:05
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flax^^the thing is taht i think i mounted all my drives in / or something like taht :P10:05
flax^^that*10:05
zax1any one really familiar with wamp ? or know irc channel for it ?10:05
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h36saflax^^: type mount10:05
linuxboyfriendn10:05
linuxboyfriendhi all10:05
Mabus06ispiked: easy enough to check... ill ping an unworking proxy10:05
ispikedzax1: http://searchirc.com/ is good.10:05
zax1thanks10:05
flax^^"/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw)"10:06
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linuxboyfriendhow can i uninstall kubuntu and all of its related packages?10:06
nickrudTamsie, I'm not sure, there's a lot of hidden configs in there and I just happened to remember that one10:06
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Tamsiethere are no startup programs10:06
h36saflax^^: that's it? that is fine10:06
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flax^^h36sa, ?10:06
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h36saTamsie: then close gaim and the window, log out and click the "save settings" button10:06
scarabatworkh36a: sorry... its an atheros AR521210:06
h36sascarabatwork: solid, that's what I have too. use the madwifi driver10:06
zax1ispiked>>> :D many thanks found one10:06
nickrudlinuxboyfriend, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt10:07
h36sascarabatwork: actually, madwifi updated to madwifi-ng.. I bet you are having firmware issues or something lame with the updated driver10:07
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h36sayou might check the repository and try downgrading to the madwifi driver10:07
flax^^im pretty lost, if someone's up to pin-point me through this, /msg me10:07
MnemicGuys, i have updated the Kernel, and now i have 6 choisess to make in the Boot Scrn? umm.. how do i remove the old Kernel versions from the List ? :)10:07
ispikedflax^^: you cannot unmount it if you're "using" it.10:07
h36saflax^^: I've already asked you what I need to know twice.. not doing it again10:08
scarabatworkh36a: crap... lol... gonna havta get a ubuntu boot disk from somewhere.. my bloody burner is on the linux box lol10:08
Tamsie"log in with empty session next time" check box would help10:08
ispikedflax^^: mounting stuff as / is not a good idea.10:08
flax^^ispiked, nope, but its done10:08
ompaulh36sa, :: flax^^ "/dev/hdd1 on / type ntfs (rw)" :: :-)10:08
h36sascarabatwork: :(10:08
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h36saompaul: I know.. what does he want to mount though10:08
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h36saI know he doesn't want to mess with /10:08
ispikedubotu: lvm10:08
ubotuI heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/10:08
scarabatworkht36a: thanks for your help... i'll see what i can do with it... that will help10:09
h36sa"sda1 is a usb stick that's fat32 and I want to mount it to /mnt/usb" that I can help10:09
h36sa"umount / doesn't work" doesn't help10:09
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ompaulflax^^, there is a simple solution have your read and followed the instructions from the bot on ntfs?10:09
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codeymanhello everyone10:09
gmcclurei've upgraded to dapper, and i've got gnome 2.14 running, but i don't have the new deskbar applet ... how can i install that?10:10
h36sawait what.. you have an ntfs partition mounted as root10:10
h36sahaha10:10
h36sahwo is your system still working10:10
nickrudgmcclure, no idea, they may know on #ubuntu+110:10
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codeymanhey guys I was installing something on my system and the sound went off for the users10:11
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codeymanthe root can however play the sounds...10:11
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ompaulflax^^, paste the full output of mount into paste.ubuntu-nl.org please10:11
vookcodeyman, check the permissions on the devices used by the soundcard, primarily /dev/dsp10:11
codeymanwhenever I click the volume control, I get the following output10:12
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codeymanThe volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.10:12
codeymanYou can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.10:12
h36sacodeyman: maybe your udev conf got messed with.. normally you can add users to the audio group and it'd fix that10:12
gmcclureoh. got it. i thought it was just a part of 2.14, but it can be installed through synaptic/apt-get10:12
gmcclurethx10:12
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azurehuesofbluehow do I install 2.14?10:12
codeymanh36sa> can u describe how to do it please?10:13
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flax^^ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1041710:13
jcolehow do i enable java support in vino for ubuntu?10:13
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h36sacodeyman: vigr10:13
gnomefreakazurehuesofblue: you have to compile it for breezy (not worth it IMO)10:13
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h36sacodeyman: er.. sudo vigr10:13
codeymank10:14
jcole"sudo apt-get install vnc-java" didn'r enable it10:14
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SkrotHi. I've got a laptop that requires a modified DSDT-table for ACPI and APIC to work. Is there any way (k)ubuntu can include that to their kernel or something like that in order to get it working without me compiling my own kernel? =)10:14
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ompaulflax^^,  reboot that machine and remove that stick as the box reboots10:14
azurehuesofbluegnomefreak: ok, hey... is there anywhere where I can see the scheduled releases of ubuntu?  So I know when dapper is stable and stuff?10:14
h36saSkrot: what kinda laptop?10:14
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flax^^stick?10:14
Skroth36sa: It's a Acer Travelmate 3004 :)10:14
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ompaulflax^^,  usb /dev/sda110:15
h36sahmm10:15
Skroth36sa: I've got the working DSDT table if that helps. I would just like it to work by default with ubuntu =)10:15
h36saI think there might be an acer laptop support driver in there10:15
codeymanh36sa> Looks like it worked I'll logout and check itout... thanx10:15
h36sacodeyman: sure10:15
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Skroth36sa: "in here" as in a guy working on the driver in this channel, or a driver in the kernel? ;)10:15
various\quit10:15
bourlahi10:15
gnomefreakazurehuesofblue: that is a touchy one right now about when dapper will be stable we should know by next week10:15
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bourlacan someone help me?10:16
h36sain there meaning in the kernel source10:16
richardhow can i use dinamic tables in oppen office?10:16
bourlai using an svideo cable10:16
h36saI could check I guess10:16
Phazemanhi gnomefreak. ended up with downloading the install cd and installed from it10:16
vookh36sa, thanks from me too, my advice was vague and misleading.10:16
azurehuesofbluegnomefreak: cool :)10:16
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bourlaand the screen goes blure whenn ubuntu comes up10:16
bourlawhat can it be?10:16
Skroth36sa: I see. I've read variouse laptop on-articles about this machine though, and noone has mentioned such a driver :>10:16
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katarotquick question i have been trying to use ndiswrapper and it think it works the only thing is i cant get it to show wlan010:16
Phazemannow... looks like i miss some kind of source since i can't find the gkrellm-skins... anyboty knows where is it ?10:16
novemcan anyone tell me where xsetroot is for that disguisting browncolor ubuntu has with gdm splash/logout?10:16
bourlai using an svideo cable10:17
bourlaand the screen goes blure whenn ubuntu comes up10:17
h36saSkrot: my bad.. it was an asus laptop driver, not acer10:17
bourlawhat can it be?10:17
Webby`How do I connect ati tv wonder usb 2.0 to ubuntu? I still can't get it to work10:17
kataroti have got etho l0 and sit010:17
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Skroth36sa: Okay =)10:17
h36sakatarot: dmesg|grep ndis10:17
novemwho thought up that brown theme anyway, good god.10:17
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Skroth36sa: How does one go about to get this stuff included in the kernel, if it's even possible (legal)?10:18
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h36sakatarot: Skrot: lend your laptop to a kernel developer for a while :P10:18
h36saer10:18
codeymangee it worked :)10:18
Skrothehe ;)10:18
h36sacodeyman: good10:19
h36saSkrot: the power management on my laptop is just now finally starting to work well10:19
h36saso I wouldn't be surprised if a kernel comes out fixing your problem soon10:19
Skroth36sa: Yeah. Laptop-support is slow :)10:19
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codeymanI wanted to downgrade my gcc version10:20
h36sayeah an dI have a dell :P10:20
kataroth36sa: i get this it weird http://pastebin.com/60807210:20
codeymanso i did apt-get remove gcc10:20
codeymanand apt-get install gcc-3.310:20
yggdrasilhow can i assign a shortcut key like lat f5 to a script i have ?10:20
yggdrasilin gnome...10:20
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codeymanbut it does not installthat way??10:20
codeymanI had to do the complete build-essential..10:21
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codeymanany thots??10:21
novemcan anyone help it's pretty simple issue, dapper has this ugly brown solid/hex/bgcolor for gdm login splash, and I cant find xsetroot in any file other then /etc/gdm/presession/default, which isnt doing anything?10:21
h36sakatarot: ij10:21
gnomefreakcodeyman: you can just point it to use gcc3.4 or 3.3 or whatever10:21
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codeymank.10:21
h36sakatarot: try removing that driver from ndiswrapper and adding the bcmwl5a driver10:21
katarotohh ok10:22
codeyman<gnomefreak> thanks10:22
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h36sathat's the one my card uses10:22
gnomefreaknovem: sudo apt-get install gnome-art will install a log-in screen settings area10:22
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linuxboyfriendg10:22
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eugmanAre there any conflicts if I were to install KDE on my machine so I can try it out?10:23
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eugmaner would there be.10:23
h36saeugman: nope10:23
gnomefreakeugman: no you will be fine10:23
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shivwhat is a good car racing game in linux?10:24
Terminusshiv: torcs?10:24
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linuxboyfriendd10:24
rysiek|plguys, I am starting to be a bit fed up. I have installed kernel-tree package and am looking form the sources of a single module (forcedeth) - and nothing!10:24
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novemgnomefreak: ive tinkered with gnome-art but i cant seem to use it to fix the solid brown spash bg? i cant seem to figure it out, it could be inheriting the color from root, but its using the universal x11 session file?10:24
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thomas_hey10:25
rysiek|plapt-cache search forcedeth gives nothing, too10:25
thomas_gnomefreak u there buddy? :D10:25
h36sarysiek|pl: it's under device drivers->network->pci->nforce10:25
davidleerothis it possible to be able to play more than one audio source in ubuntu?10:25
rysiek|plthx :)10:25
shivthanks Terminus: let me give it a try10:25
gnomefreaknovem: go to system>preff>splash screen if you mean the splash screen after you log in10:25
gnomefreakif you meant the mod loading screen xubuntu took care of that for me ;)10:25
gnomefreakthomas_: ?10:25
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novemno no, the actual splash screen art i can change in the splash screen prefs, im talking about the solid color BEHIND the splash screen art10:25
h36sadavidleeroth: if you're using arts or gstreamer or jack, yes10:25
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thomas_yea i got it running10:26
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thomas_i tried running glxgears10:26
h36safps?10:26
novemhaving a nice silver splash and a crap brown behind it doesnt look good ;)10:26
thomas_and it kicked me back to login screen10:26
thomas_went black10:26
thomas_i was able to run it b4 i loaded compiz+xgl10:26
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thomas_i see the wobbly effects10:26
h36sayou've got the wrong glx installed or something10:26
thomas_dont see how i can flip screens around tho10:26
thomas_didnt get to do that10:26
rysiek|plh36sa: locate nforce | grep network gives nothing10:26
gnomefreaknovem: what splash are you talking about10:26
thomas_maybe i do..10:26
thomas_i installed it from the howto10:26
thomas_on wiki10:26
gnomefreakthomas_: use the commands on the wiki10:26
rysiek|pl(updatedb done before that, off course :) )10:26
h36sarysiek|pl: did you try locate forcedeth.c10:27
linuxboyfriendg10:27
eugmanARgh depedency errors! What is the tope level package to run KDE?10:27
rysiek|plyup, nought found10:27
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: can you please stop that10:27
ompaulthomas_, please join the channel #ubuntu+1 thanks - that is for dapper10:27
thomas_okay sry10:27
novemgnomefreak: when i log into gnome, it displays a splash logo wich icons pass acrossed, behind this splash logo there is a base (hex/color) brown background10:27
eugmanis it kubuntu desktop?10:27
novemI can not change it10:27
snorkeltjeHi everybody. Does someone know a Linux-taste of PPlive??10:27
h36sadavidleeroth: don't message me10:27
h36sarysiek|pl: well.. you should have it10:27
rysiek|plh36sa: locate forcedeth only gives me some *.h and *.ko files10:27
rysiek|plwell... I know :)10:28
novemit seems that somewhere in the presession or xinit its using xsetroot to define this ugly brown color, but xsetroot is in one file and changing it didnt fix it10:28
h36sawarning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: Permission denied10:28
h36sa/usr/src/linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r1/drivers/net/forcedeth.c10:28
maxkelley!dapper10:28
gnomefreaknovem: yes download a new splash than open system>preff>splash screen and add it in there than set it on10:28
ubotuThe next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion10:28
h36sathat's where it is on my box10:28
novemgnomefreak: already have a new splash, already have it active, the splash screen itself isnt the problem10:28
rysiek|plwell, I am trying to find it not with locate, but with ll -R / | grep forcedeth10:29
rysiek|pl...and nothing10:29
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maxkelleysay, is it possible to install dapper using synaptic on an existing breezy installation?10:29
gnomefreaknovem: the wallpaper?10:29
novemwhen gnome starts, and displays the splash screen i have set in splash screen prefs, BEHIND that splash screen, (the rest of the desktop area) is a solid brown, (before the wallpaper loads),10:29
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h36sarysiek|pl: I *JUST* showed you where it is10:29
gnomefreaknovem: normal10:30
kbrooksmaxkelley, you can upgrade to it.i'd not use dapper on production machines10:30
novemhow do i change it to another color?10:30
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gnomefreaknovem: gnome cant load anything until gnome is loaded10:30
ompaulmaxkelley, it is now head over to the land of dapper in #ubuntu+1 to get more details cheers10:30
rysiek|plh36sa: notice that you are using a gentoo kernel :)10:30
maxkelleykbrooks: it isn't.. where can I upgrade to it? what repos do I have to add?10:30
maxkelleyompaul: cheers!10:30
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h36sarysiek|pl: whatever, it'll be in there10:30
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novemgnomefreak: so where exactly is that ugly brown being defined?10:30
katarotthere nothing new10:30
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h36saI use the vanilla kernel sources too and they have forcedeth10:31
h36saFOR SURE10:31
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snorkeltjeIs a linux version of PPLive or Sopcast available for Ubuntu10:31
tonyyarussoHow is load calculated?10:31
gnomefreaknovem: i dont have a clue. i dont think that is something that you can change10:31
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katarotit is like its there but not been configured  do i need to configure it10:31
jdprc06hi i have a problem - i can't load synaptic10:31
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linuxboyfriendl10:31
h36sa. /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/forcedeth.c should be in any recent 2.6 kernel10:31
tonyyarussojdprc06: More detail might be helpful for someone to give you an answer.10:32
novemill see if i can get a screenshot , in every other distro ive tinkered with it was just an issue of xsetroot in an xinit,10:32
nickrudnovem, have you tried gdmsetup ?10:32
linuxboyfriendjdprc06, if apt is working then u can not load synaptic10:32
novemnickrud: yeah10:32
linuxboyfriendjdprc06, once at a time10:32
jdprc06apt?10:32
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jdprc06any apt?10:32
gnomefreaknickrud: that shouldnt do it because gnome isnt loaded at that point10:32
rysiek|plh36sa: guess what - no such file or directory (tried: cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/)10:32
novemgnomefreak: gnome is LOADING at this point, it is going through its presession etc10:32
h36sarysiek|pl: looks like we found your problem. you don't have the kernel sources installed10:33
tonyyarussojdprc06: Advanced Package Tool, iirc, the thing Synaptic is a frontend to.10:33
nickrudgnomefreak, gdm runs before gnome, your mention of gnome not being able to run before gnome made me think of it10:33
gnomefreakloading not loaded10:33
h36saor you're missing the /usr/src/linux symlink10:33
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nickrudbut it was a miss anyway10:33
novemnickrud: gdm loads, displays my custom login perfect, i log in, gdm finishes up its job and gnome displays its splash (a custom i set) behind this custom splash its an ugly brown, that i cant change10:33
jdprc06as in apt-get?10:33
gnomefreaknickrud: the only place i can think of it being is in the sourcecode and thats a whole lotta work to change10:34
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linuxboyfriendjdprc06, and what about putting your name in sudoers10:34
tonyyarussojdprc06: Correct.10:34
rysiek|plh36sa: I have installed kernel-tree package (which depends on kernel-tree and kernel-debian-patches) *before* I have asked the question.10:34
nickrudewww10:34
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Majdhey, does the ubuntu cd include a "repair" option?10:34
tonyyarussonovem, nickrud: I wasn't following before, but I might have an answer.10:34
novemgnomefreak: its brown because of the theme ubuntu threw in with dapper10:34
rysiek|plh36sa: updatedb; locate forcedeth.c does not show *anything*10:34
jdprc06i was told to do that but i typed it wrong i think.  can you tell me again how to add to sudoers10:34
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rysiek|plh36sa: ll -R / | grep forcedeth.c the same10:34
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eobanbis there a dapper ppc livecd available?10:34
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tonyyarussonovem, nickrud: Go to the GTK tab in GDM setup, not the themed one, and there you'll find a background color option, and I've found in the past that changing that will change the background of the splash.10:35
h36sarysiek|pl: well, I just looked on my laptop and the file I say exists, does in fact exist10:35
raboofmm, being able to add/remove programs even in the livecd version. that's pretty neat :)10:35
h36saso you've gotta get a new copy of the kernel sources or something10:35
ompauleobanb, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ look there you will find one10:35
novemtonyyarusso: i havent tried that, thanks very much ill give it ago10:35
tonyyarussonovem: Let me know if that does it.10:36
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nickrudI use the regular login, that's what I thought. I just haven't done it in a while, I kinda like brown10:36
ompauleobanb, join the channel #ubuntu+1 for dapper based info10:36
novemI will be back in one moment10:36
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tonyyarussoraboof: Still just in RAM though, right?10:36
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poasfdhi10:36
poasfdne1 here10:36
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novemtony your right, its set in there10:37
tonyyarussopoasfd: Just a few hundred.10:37
rysiek|plh36sa: now I give up. I *have* the newest sources installed and haven't got that file. are you using Breezy (5.10)? Or Dapper? (I'm a Breezyrian).10:37
novemthanks!10:37
tonyyarussonovem: Sweet.10:37
poasfdi was wondering if ubuntu linux live would be able to detect a usb external hard drive10:37
flax^^ok, i think that i managed to mount a disk now, but now it says that i dont have permission to view the files in it :(10:37
batmandoes anyone know of a way i can copy files that are inside dirs to the following dirs if the dir exists if the dir doesn't exist then create it but don't overwrite existing files in the dirs?10:37
eobanbompaul, awesome, thanks10:37
novemim suprised i couldent find it in any configs10:37
h36sarysiek|pl: well, I'm doing a dist-upgrade right now. but the sources are from breezy10:38
canllaithpoasfd: yes10:38
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poasfdthanks10:38
ompauleobanb, enjoy10:38
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rysiek|plh36sa: ok, I'll try to install kernel-tree-2.6.10 instead of *-2.6.1110:38
h36saI have linux-source-2.6.12 in /usr/src and it has forcedeth10:38
tonyyarussonovem: It is highly unintuitive; not sure why that is.10:38
Terminusflax^^: what filesystem? ntfs?10:38
h36sarysiek|pl: why not upgrade?10:38
flax^^yrah10:38
rysiek|plto Dapper?10:38
flax^^yeah*10:38
h36sato 2.6.1210:38
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rysiek|plh36sa: $uname -r: 2.6.12-10-k7 - now when you tell me where the *hell* are the sources for the bastard, I'll be more than happy10:39
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Terminusflax^^: you probably need to set the umask in fstab, assuming you added it there. if not, remount with umask. :)10:39
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raboofhrm. mac keyboards missing the 'del' key is annoying if your OS isn't used to that ;)10:39
toblerphey folks10:39
Mnemic!ati10:39
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358910:39
toblerpwhere can i get w32codecs?10:39
toblerpdo you guys use the cipferfunk mirror?10:40
ispikedit's asking me where to install grub. if I made /boot, do I need to tell it to install grub there?10:40
flax^^Terminus, .... 'ok', please, talk to me like im 3 years old and retarded10:40
flax^^:P10:40
rysiek|plAAAAAARGH!!10:40
Terminustoblerp: i use marillat for that.10:40
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ispikedtoblerp: mplayer's site has them.10:40
h36sarysiek|pl: man, I've already held your hand long enough and you keep telling me I'm wrong when I'm not10:40
h36saso I'm pretty over helping you10:40
Terminusflax^^: hahaha. do you know how to use chmod?10:40
toblerpbut i want a ubuntu package10:40
rysiek|plh36sa: yep, you're right, sorry. I installed kernel-tree-* instead of linux-tree-*10:41
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relhiya geeks10:41
tonyyarussoI seem to have lost all of my sounds in Gnome just now; any idea why that would happen?10:41
h36saI think the linux-tree is debian kernel source10:41
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criminyI came in here yesterday abuot an ipod10:41
flax^^uhm, i installed ubuntu like 2 hours ago :P10:41
Majdtonyyarusso, speakers are off?10:41
h36saer10:41
Majdsorry...i know i'm an ass10:41
h36sakernel-source is the debian one.. linux-source is what you need10:41
criminyI get lines and lines of sd 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device10:41
tonyyarussoraboof: They don't have a del key?10:41
criminyin dmesg10:41
tonyyarussoMajd: Nope, just checked.10:41
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rysiek|plh36sa: yep, installing it right now...10:42
Terminusubotu: tell flax^^ about ntfs10:42
Majdheh...dunno really...i just screwed up my linux-image and i can't boot linux now10:42
tonyyarussotoblerp: I use the seveas repo.10:42
Majdwaiting for my friend to give me the cd back so i can "repair" it if it's an option10:42
flax^^tnx Terminus10:42
toblerpseveas?10:42
tonyyarusso!seveas10:43
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:43
snorkeltjeI am searching for PPlive for Linux.10:43
Terminusflax^^: np. that should help you. good luck. :)10:43
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relwhen will gtk redraw windows as smooth as windows(tm) does10:43
toblerp!seveas10:43
tonyyarussorel: Probably with Dapper; I've heard there's some fancy new stuff there.  And if you're using old hardware, it's already a lot smoother than trying to run Vista on your system would be!10:44
ompaultoblerp, you should look a few lines above this10:44
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reltonyyarusso: running dapper.. guess it will take some years :)10:44
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rysiek|plcu all, sorry for flamin', h36sa :/ it's been a long day10:45
phaedralamong other reasons to install ubuntu---the 5.1 installer fits on my left-over 650mb discs...10:45
h36saI just dist-upgrade 'd my box to dapper and now X starts but dies when loading the wm with "error opening securty policy file /etc/xserver/SecurityPolicy" ... any advice?10:46
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tonyyarussoh36sa: Ask in #ubuntu+1, that's where Dapper questions are being handled.10:46
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flax^^Terminus, ok, i ran the script. but it still says taht i dont have the rights :(10:47
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GreyscalefoxCan anyone tell me how to make a bash script dump a small amount of text to a file?10:47
gnomefreakthat was wayyyyyyy to easy :(10:47
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dibblegocan CD/DVD Creator create from an ISO image?10:48
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youBun2_jason, What is it I must do with this SystemRescue CD?10:48
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callocanyone help with a mysql config? Im trying to connect to mysql on my ubuntu box from a windows machines, Ive allowed the rules in firewall etc and I have also added a mysql user that is allowed to connect from anywhere, but I still canno connect, can anyone help?10:48
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Spudchathi, anyone know of an aim server?10:48
PokerFacePenguinGreyscalefox: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/10:48
dibblegocalloc: check that the machine has TCP/3306 open10:49
GreyscalefoxThanks!10:49
Spudchative seen some jabber ones, but not for aim10:49
paganiniDoes anyone use the deskbar-applet for google searches?10:49
PokerFacePenguinGreyscalefox: no problem, a must have for bash scripting10:49
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tonyyarussoMajd: On the other hand, maybe they are off...10:49
ZdArKxAnyone know who install apache server on Ubuntu 5.10?10:49
Majdhaha10:50
flax^^how do i give myself rights to a disk?10:50
DBOexcuse me for being out of the loop, but is Drapper Drake officially pushed back?10:50
tonyyarussoMy speakers seem to off, but I've used my little volume buttons, and that displays them as on and the volume halfway up, but I get nothing.  What can I do?10:50
silvaranDBO: ^topic10:50
MajdZdArKx, for me, it only took the installation of apache2 package from synaptic....that was it10:50
youBun2This is so fustrating10:50
SpudchatZdArKx: sudo apt-get install apache210:50
DBOsilvaran, doy...10:50
Spudchatand it worked out the box for me10:50
DBOthanks10:50
youBun2I was told to download SystemRescueCD and I have10:50
youBun2I have it on CD now10:50
youBun2And I am unsure what the hell I should do now10:50
Terminusflax^^: i didn't see any script mentioned on that page. :|10:51
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nickrudyouBun2, are you trying to fix your grub boot?10:51
youBun2nickrud, Yes I am sir10:51
ZdArKxThanks!10:51
nickrudyouBun2, to boot windows or ubuntu10:51
Terminusflax^^: i forgot to ask how you mounted the drive. you probably need something like 'mount -o umask=0222 /dev/hdX? /mnt/point'10:51
youBun2nickrud, Windows XP10:51
callocanyone help with a mysql config? Im trying to connect to mysql on my ubuntu box from a windows machines, Ive allowed the rules in firewall etc and I have also added a mysql user that is allowed to connect from anywhere, but I still canno connect, can anyone help?10:51
dibblegocalloc: check that the machine has TCP/3306 open10:51
nickrudyouBun2, ubuntu's booting ok10:51
nickrud?10:52
Terminusflax^^: where X is a letter representing the drive and ? is a number representing the partition. :)10:52
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youBun2nickrud, Yes, yes it is10:52
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nickrudand windows in on the first partition of the first disk?10:52
DBOisnt MySQL by default setup only to allow loopback conenctions?10:52
Terminusflax^^: sorry, forgot to prepend sudo to that.10:52
youBun2nickrud, From what I have gathered today, I am basically one of the few who's install of Ubuntu hasn't gone as planned and somwhere along the lines my Windows boot has gone AWOL10:52
dibblegoDBO: you'd still be able to make the connection - just not authenticate10:52
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dibblegounless you mean it binds to 127.0.0.1, which I am not aware of10:53
dibblegoyou could easily check it anyway10:53
nickrudyouBun2, so I gathered. And one last question - is it serial ata, or regular ide10:53
callocdibblego, I have 3306 open10:53
Phlostenmorning all10:53
dibblegocalloc: is it accessible from the remote machine? telnet machine 330610:53
Terminusflax^^: oh... found the line mentioning the script. =D10:53
flax^^Terminus, its mounted now, though i can only acces it through system->admin.->disks10:53
Phazemancan somebody please tell me which repository i miss for the gkrellm-skins and xmms-skins ?10:53
youBun2nickrud, Could you elaborate on that for me?10:54
nickrudyouBun2, can I pm you?10:54
youBun2nickrud, Sure you can10:54
nickrudyouBun2, are you registered with freenode , you can pm :)10:54
callocdibblego, no, cannot connect to host when I try to telnet to it10:54
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dibblegocalloc: but you can from the local machine?10:54
Terminusflax^^: can you please paste the result of 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab'?10:54
youBun2nickrud, I can't say I am =(10:54
nickrud!register10:54
ubotuit has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))10:54
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gnomefreakit doesnt look like he is10:55
reldoes smeone know how I can disable gnome-screensaver. It's crashing my pc10:55
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callocdibblego, yes Im running phpmyadmin on the ubuntu box10:55
Terminusflax^^: i'm not really handy with the gui stuff so could you open a terminal for that? thanks.10:55
gnomefreaknormally /whois will tell you if they are identifyed10:55
youBun2xD10:55
nickrudah, thanks10:55
dibblegocalloc: does that mean you have successfully made a TCP connection to localhost?10:55
dibblegotelnet localhost 3306 does what?10:55
nickrudI don't know irc well at all10:55
phaedrali installed debian testing, but think I want to start over with ubuntu instead10:56
phaedralshould I be able to just fire up the ubuntu installer and have it recognize the partitions I've set up?10:56
gnomefreaknickrud: your identified ;)10:56
nickrudyouBun2, if you don't want to register, you can join #nickrud10:56
Phlostenrel, system->preferences->screensaver and set it to no screensaver10:57
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callocdibblego, yes connection made on the localhost,  just says connect failed10:57
portatilhi10:57
dibblegocalloc: how can it say "connectio failed" yet you made the connection?10:57
batmanis there a command to restore the trash?10:57
portatilhow install avasta antivirus in ubuntu, help me10:57
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nickrudyouBun2, I do think I know an easy method to get your windows booting, I just need to know a few things10:58
gnomefreak!avasta10:59
ubotugnomefreak: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:59
callocdibblego, I can view phpmyadmin running on the ubuntu box that is running mysql, bit I can not connect to the mysql server on 3306 from the windows machine10:59
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dibblegocalloc: try connecting from the actual machine - telnet localhost 3306 - can you make that connection?10:59
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dibblegodon't wory about phpmyadmin10:59
gnomefreakportatil: why not use clamav? its easy to install i dont ever remember seeing avasta in repos10:59
flax^^ok Terminus, igot a terminal open now10:59
DBOis there any difference between ubuntu and edubuntu other than installed packages?10:59
dibblegoestablish how the TCP port is set up first11:00
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youBun2nickrud, I'm there buddy11:00
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gnomefreakDBO: the looks11:00
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gnomefreakDBO: artwork wise11:00
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turixi tried to setup eterm11:00
DBOgnomefreak, thats it though?11:00
Terminusflax^^: please paste the result of 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab' here. it should be only one line. if there's no result, please tell me. :)11:00
turixbut i didnt get a "eterm" in my /usr/bin/11:01
batmanseriously can someone tell me if there is a way to restore after emptying the trash?11:01
dibblegoafter that try connecting on the interface that you are connecting to remotely - telnet thehostname 330611:01
turixwhat do i need to do?11:01
gnomefreakDBO: the packages are the biggest differnce11:01
portatilwhere is a spanish chat for ubuntu11:01
gnomefreakeverything else is editible11:01
DBObut you can still get those with the regular ubuntu no?11:01
dibblegobatman: cp -R ~/.Trash11:01
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gnomefreakDBO: yes but not default11:01
DBOok11:01
DBOthats what I wanted to hear11:01
Terminusflax^^: copying and pasting on linux consists of highlighting the text, going to the target app, and using the middle button to paste.11:01
DBOsorry for the stupid questions11:01
gnomefreakDBO: its ok but i dont think ther eis an iso for edubuntu11:02
batmandibblego, i emptied the trash >.<11:02
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prakashbaashaanyone: when I do a `find / -name filename` I get a message  "find:WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this is bug in you filesystem". Is anything wrong in FS11:02
flax^^Terminus, uhm, ok11:02
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sailorGuys, I'm trying to install dapper onto my HDD to dual boot with Breezy and windows, but the partitioner is not letting me use the unused space on the disk... can someone help me? It's saying it might be because I have too many partitions on my disk, but I only have four and thought I could have more than that...11:02
Spudchatno ideas about an aim server?11:03
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callocdibblego, I can connect when I ssh into the ubuntu box and telnet to localhost 330611:03
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dextrososailor: 4 is the maximum, try ranish partition manager11:04
dibblegocalloc: what about when you use the actual hostname from the local machine?11:04
Terminussailor: all four of your partitions are probably primary partitions. you're gonna have to convert one of them to an extended partition and fill that up with logical partitions.11:04
dibblegotelnet hostname 3306 (not from a remote machine - from the local machine)11:04
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sailorTerminus, all four are primary... converting is going to erase them though, yes?11:05
dibblegowhere 'hostname' is the same interface that your remote machine would be using normally11:05
Athirsonhi11:05
Athirsoncan somebody in here help?11:05
Terminussailor: just one of them, and yes, it's gonna mean it's gonna get trashed.11:05
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gnomefreak!helpme11:05
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:05
Athirsonhow can i install tar.gz11:05
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Terminussailor: at least now you know that you should always make the 4th partition an extended partition. =D11:06
callocdibblego, hostname on the localbox, connects fine11:06
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batmanso is there a way i can restore what i deleted from the trash after it has been emptied?11:06
DBOhmmm, should my CPU be spiking to 100% when switching MP3's in XMMS?11:06
gnomefreakubotu tell Athirson about compile11:06
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gnomefreakubotu tell Athirson about tar11:06
portatili need a quick guide for install avast antivirus in ubuntu11:06
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gripnerso smarty ppl, any bright ideas why dapper install find my vt8251 sata controller, but no disks connected to it >_<11:07
gnomefreakAthirson: what are you trying to install?11:07
SpudchatAthirson: thats source code usually, gunzip and then youll have a filename.tar, then tar -xf filename.tar and then your ready to compile11:07
sailorTerminus, seriously... OK, so partition #4 is swap, 1 gig, and there are 8 gigs of unused space at the end of the drive... could I delete the swap and convert that now 9 gigs of space to extended, then install dapper and swap on that 4th partition?11:07
prakashbaashahello please help me: I get the following error when I do a find / -name filename: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in you11:08
prakashbaashaesystem driver.11:08
Athirsonok how can i install a game11:08
gnomefreakprakashbaasha: try locate file11:08
Terminussailor: yep. take note that breezy is dependent on that swap partition so you're gonna have to tell it that the location changed.11:08
sailorTerminus, how do I do that?11:08
Athirsonhow can i install a game11:08
gnomefreaksailor: 1 gig is enough for any amount of ram11:09
gnomefreakAthirson: what game?11:09
sailorTerminus, especially since it isn't going to want to boot11:09
Athirsonrpm11:09
prakashbaashagnomefreak: I am able to find the correct file but still I was getting the message!!!! I was wondering is there anyway to check if my filesystem is correct or broken11:09
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Athirsonrpm package11:09
eugmansubprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 means what exactly?11:09
gnomefreakAthirson: this is not an rpm distro look for a .deb11:09
Terminussailor: change the swap line for breezy in /etc/fstab. on the bright side, you can use one swap partition for both breezy and dapper. :)11:09
sailorgnomefreak, yeah, I'd be putting just 1 gig of swap in that extended partition11:09
Athirsonyes but how do i install from .deb11:10
sailorTerminus, thanks for the help, here's hoping I don't trash my system :)11:10
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gripnerprakashbaasha: the msg you got dont mean the filesystem is corupt dont worry11:10
SpudchatAthirson: did you try searching for the game with synaptic?11:10
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Terminussailor: you're welcome. i hope so too. :)11:10
Athirsonyes11:10
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DBOoop, nevermind, figured out my MP3 issue11:10
DBOIMMS was spiking it11:10
gnomefreakAthirson: on the site for the game look for a deb package11:10
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criminyAthirson: I think you can install .deb files with dpkg11:10
prakashbaashagnomefreak: cool thanks....11:10
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gnomefreakAthirson: after downloading it run sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:11
SpudchatAthirson: if you find a .deb, then dpkg -i filename.deb11:11
flax^^hmm, when i had windows, i had a map with a wierd char in the name, it was like a little ring, now that i mounted that disk i cant see that folder :( anyway to go around this?11:11
Spudchatyeah forgot the sudo eheh11:11
eugmanQAnyone know how to fix a broken clocate?11:11
flax^^map folder*11:11
prakashbaashagripner:cool thanks11:11
Terminusflax^^: wb. you fixed the umask problem already? :)11:11
Athirsonthanks alot11:11
gnomefreakeugman: dapper?11:12
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flax^^yeah, now i can browse the disk just fine :)11:12
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eugmaner slocate and no breezy11:12
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ruzgaris there a debian package for "ruby on rail"11:12
gnomefreakeugman: i think there is a bug on that11:12
Terminusflax^^: cool. don't know anything about your new problem. hehe.11:12
eugmanDoes that just mean I'm not alone or is there a fix.11:13
h36saflax^^: windows doesn't let you name things with weird chars11:13
flax^^k, i have one idea though, get the hd in my brothers comp, which runs win, change the name there, then pop it back into my bob11:13
flax^^box*11:13
Athirsonso i cant run rpm on ubuntu?11:13
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gnomefreakeugman: that means check launchpad.net for a bug on that if its there there might be a fix for it11:13
ompaulruzgar, there is a package called rails and it is in universe11:13
h36sathat's a bunk solution11:13
gnomefreakubotu tell Athirson about alien11:13
ompaulAthirson, correct - not the way to go11:14
MorrowynAthirson,   sudo apt-get install alien  && man alien11:14
gnomefreakompaul: tried that one already11:14
jdmpikewhen is the Dapper Release Candidate available?11:14
ompaulAthirson, what is the package11:14
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flax^^h36sa, it does, not every wierd char but some :)11:14
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gnomefreakjdmpike: not sure yet11:14
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Athirsonit is tuxracer.rpm11:15
Athirsonhow do i open it11:15
ompaulAthirson, that exists on Ubuntu11:15
jdmpikehow many people in here are running Flight 5?11:15
h36saAthirson: apt-get install tuxracer11:15
ruzgarompaul thanks11:15
ompauljdmpike, they should all be in the channel #ubuntu+1 not here11:15
Athirsonthen how do i do with the tar.gz11:16
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linuxboyfriendhi all11:16
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gnomefreakubotu tell Athirson about synaptic11:16
ompaulAthirson, n o you don't do that either11:16
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SpudchatAthirson: all you need to do is open the terminal and sudo apt-get install tuxracer11:16
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ompaul!tell Athirson about universe11:17
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linuxboyfriendwhat option should i give to apt-get so that if any thing fails to download, apt automatically retry to download it?11:17
samuel_hello11:17
gnomefreakubotu tell Athirson about apt11:17
ompaulAthirson, add universe as the url the bot tells you about and then install it11:17
gopiTV application ...... what is that Zapper ?11:17
samuel_I'm a new Ubuntu Convert11:17
samuel_When is dapper being released?11:17
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Terminusif i installed ubuntu with the server option and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop, it should be just like i installed from the kubuntu cd right?11:18
gopiI forgot the exact name of it..... Is it Zapper ?11:18
gnomefreaksamuel_: not sure atm11:18
ompaulsamuel_, who knows 4 weeks 10 weeks it will be annouced soon11:18
gnomefreaksamuel_: give us a week11:18
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, hi11:18
djm62gopi: zapping11:18
gnomefreakhi11:18
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linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, can you tell me what i asked11:18
gopidjm62: ah thanks a lot !!!!11:18
djm62samuel_: June11:18
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, :)11:18
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gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: no i ignored you earlier11:19
samuel_I still dual boot XP/ubuntu as my family are so use to windows.... so I have grub to dual boot, can I make it so the grub menu is hidden somewhat....as in I have to press a key to load ubuntu instead of windows.... and put a password on grub...11:19
ompaulnow there is smooth, took out an old DVD player only installed DVD R/R +RW and it works off the shelf no mods no nothing11:19
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, hmm, lemme reprint11:19
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, what option should i give to apt-get so that if any thing fails to download, apt automatically retry to download it?11:20
samuel_my wife gets annoyed when ubuntu loads...shes computer ignorant11:20
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: not sure if there is one try man apt-get11:20
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Stormx2samuel_: You can rearrange the menu so it boots windows by default11:20
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, i tried man but nothing is there11:20
painkilerhey guys11:20
Phlostensamuel_, put on a Windows XP splash screen11:20
samuel_ok11:20
Stormx2samuel_: As for password, well, ubuntu has passwords :P11:20
djm62samuel_: it's only a matter of time- dapper will be easier than vista11:20
Terminussamuel_: you could make windows the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst. :)11:20
samuel_cool11:21
samuel_thank you11:21
h36sadjm62: haha yeah right11:21
painkileri always forget this...11:21
gnomefreak!apt11:21
ubotuI heard apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto11:21
samuel_Gnome is so smooth11:21
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gnomefreak^^ linuxboyfriend try there too11:21
Terminusand shorten the wait time to something like 3 seconds. hehe11:21
painkilerhow do i xorg.conf in a gui?11:21
painkileri forget11:21
gnomefreaksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg painkiler11:21
painkilerthanx11:21
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samuel_last question promise..can i run kde along side gnome? if so how?11:21
relsamuel_: try resizing gnome-terminal :P11:21
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gnomefreaksamuel_: yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:21
djm62h36sa: I spent the night attempting to get windows working, for a woman who consistently called IE "google" and didn't know that firefox, which was installed on her system, was a web browser11:21
linuxboyfriendgnomefreak, what do u mean?11:21
gnomefreaklinuxboyfriend: go to the link that ubotu posted about apt11:22
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avshello, can anyone tell me why ctrl-alt-backspace just dumps me to a text terminal instead of restarting X11:22
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gnomefreakavs: log in type startx11:22
h36sasamuel_: yeah.. you can use xnest or load kde, then start new session->gnome then ctrl+alt+f7/f811:22
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samuel_thanks everyone, i'll try that11:22
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paganiniIs there any way to get the background image in gnome-terminal to scale to whatever size your terminal window is?11:22
gnomefreakavs: it drops you to tty because tty is non X11:22
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mwright1nightdoes epiphany use the gecko engine?11:23
ruzgarhow can i format a etc3 harddisk partition in gnome interface11:23
djm62h36sa: she is who HIG are aimed at: scared to use things with funny names, scared to update windows because it's pirated, scared by the whole damn affair11:23
h36sadjm62: you think ubuntu is the answer?11:23
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gnomefreakmwright1night: yes iirc11:23
samuel_ok it's asking for a password.... on installation it only asked me to create a user password, what is the root password ?11:23
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gnomefreakuser password11:23
FlannelKing!sudo11:23
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:23
MnemicGuys, do u have any idea why my Sound card aint working ?11:23
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h36sasudo passwd root11:24
h36sasudo su11:24
djm62h36sa: this is -offtopic, but using a computer is so damn painful for her, ubuntu would certainly be no worse, and probably much better, than XP11:24
ompaulsamuel_, you can change the order of booting (open a terminal Applicaitons Accessories Terminal and then >>sudo  nano /boot/grub/menu.lst<< and there look for the word "default" it has a "0" opposite it change it something higher maybe 3 or 2  try rebooting it will sort that and she does not have to do anything11:24
avsgnomefreak: thanks, that worked. If I can't go over 1024x768, is that a monitor thing or graphics card? installed nvidia drivers but that didnt help11:24
samuel_thank you11:24
h36sadjm62: one problem is that, being clueless, she is going to need lots of support. and there are a LOT more people knowledgable in XP than in *ix11:25
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Mnemic!sound11:25
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:25
gnomefreakavs: that could be any of the above ill have ubotu send you a link11:25
gnomefreakubotu tell avs about fixres11:25
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avsthanks11:25
gnomefreakyw11:25
ompaul!offtopic11:26
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!11:26
mrjCan anyone explain how to change the name it shows for one of my mounted partitions?  All are normal (size then the word Volume,) except for one that says "r($course);"11:26
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h36samrj: samba share?11:26
h36samrj: check the bottom of /etc/samba/smb.conf11:26
mrjh36sa:  Nope, just a regular partition (vfat)11:26
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h36saer?11:27
silvaranIs there a good util to share sets of folders (not an entire home directory) between two ubuntu installations, mirroring them and keeping them sync'd, even after a (12-24 hour) disconnect?11:27
h36sathey don't really have names11:27
h36sajust device and mount points11:27
=== Mnemic Reboot... wish me luck :P Damn Ati!!!
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h36sasilvaran: rsync11:27
h36sabut it's hard to configure11:27
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silvaranThe difficulty is I don't want to have to do it manually (cron's not enough), and if I'm connected, I want any changes on one machine to appear on the other immediately.11:28
ruzgarin gparted i cant change disc partitons it is always "locked"11:28
fluoroHi guys, quick question: Is gcc-4.1 in Dapper?  I'm searching for it in synaptic and I can't find it.11:28
ruzgarcan anyone help me11:28
fluoroBut I see gcj-4.1, so I'm confused.11:28
silvaranrsync's not really peer-to-peer, it's more of a server->client / repository thing11:28
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Athirsonhow do i complie a rpm11:28
silvaranfluoro: #ubuntu+1 might be a better place.11:29
_jasonruzgar: are the partitions mounted?11:29
ruzgaryes11:29
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Russelhiho i have a problem with upgrading11:29
ruzgarwhen i right click them i only see "unmount" button11:29
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ruzgari open it with root user11:29
Athirsonhow do i complie a rpm package11:29
_jasonruzgar: unmount them or boot a livecd and use gparted from there11:29
fluorosilvaran: Thanks.11:29
h36sasilvaran: let me know if you figure something out11:29
silvaranh36sa: yah11:29
ruzgarhm ok i'll try11:29
samuel_I have been searching for an alternative to Windows for two years and ubuntu is the first distro that kicks ass!11:29
_jasonAthirson: why?11:29
fernashesAthirson: use alien11:29
Athirsonhow11:30
mrjruzgar:  the lock means they are mounted.  You can't mess with a mounted partition safely.  You should boot from a livecd and them make alterations to the drives while they are all unmounted.11:30
Russeli have a package that should be removed but the remove skript inside dpkg trhows an error at me... is it possible to delete the package from the deb list?11:30
fernashesfirst... sudo apt-get install alien11:30
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ruzgarmrj i have only knoppix live cd11:30
h36sasamuel_: not quite the first :)11:30
silvaranDoes ubuntu come with gfs?11:30
ruzgarhow can i formak a harddisk with kde interface11:30
mrjruzgar:  Thats ok, you can use any livecd with qtparted or gparted11:30
_jasonAthirson: if it is in the repositories or avaiable as an ubuntu deb it is preferrable to using the rpm.  rpm's can break your system11:30
fernashesthen... providing your terminal is already in the correct directory, e.g. desktop, sudo alien docname11:30
joh6nnwhere would i go to report that the dependencies for a package need to be updated?11:30
mrjrezgar:  qtparted11:30
SuperslashGood Morning Ubuntunam! Having a hell of a time installing breezy badger 5.10, it works fine up until the partition manager and that works fine too. But it doesnt recognize that i've already formatted and partitioned the drive for winxp, and left about 80gigs of unformatted space for ubuntu to install to.11:30
Athirsonthx11:30
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ruzgarok i'll try qtparted11:31
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fernashesthen ... sudo dkpg -i packagename.deb11:31
Athirsonso how do i open deb files11:31
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fernashessee my last comment11:31
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joh6nnSuperslash: define "doesn't recognize"11:31
fernashesthen ... sudo dkpg -i packagename.deb11:31
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fernashesAthirson: note that alien is fairly experimental, could be that it won't compile correctly.11:32
samuel_how do I convert my wife and children to ubuntu, they have a voice in their head that says "use windows or bill gates will kill you, and your life will turn to shit"11:32
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Athirsonok11:32
snowblinksamuel_, frozen bubble11:32
NickGarve1samuel_: dual boot11:32
miroe11:32
NickGarve1hahaha11:32
NickGarve1I love that game11:32
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fernashesAthirson, good luck11:32
Athirsonthnx11:32
fernashessamuel_, lol!11:32
_jasonsamuel_: install a virus on window?11:32
Tiberianwohoo :D Finally i made the screen!! :D11:33
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NickGarve1haha samuel_, I know a way to force a blue screen11:33
fernashessamuel_, install Ubuntu with a dual boot, and the next time they use the computer, make sure Ubuntu is already booted and cofigured?11:33
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_jasonsamuel_: seriously just exaplin to them what you like about it and let them try it11:33
TiberianUbugtu, sound asap :p11:33
_jasonexplain even11:33
snowblinksamuel_, I'm actually being serious about frozen bubble BTW. It works on kids and adults very well11:33
Tiberianhm..11:33
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Tiberian!sound11:34
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:34
Bilangei think samuel needs to install xgl/compiz on its ubuntu installation ;)11:34
jdprc06hey i need some help11:34
samuel_I dual boot, but when ubuntu is loaded they are like 'where is the any key?" and they freak out...11:34
ompaulAthirson, you install in ubuntu using syanptic and or apt-get - you need a repo called universe for that package the bot has told you what to do in order to improve your repos so that you may get up to 17500+ packages11:34
cribbonhow do i remove a value from the system->prefs->sessions->autostart using only console commands?11:34
_jasonsamuel_: help them11:34
fernashesjdprc06, what's up?11:34
jdprc06I get this error when I try to update with apt-get E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:34
jdprc06E: Unable to lock the list directory11:34
ispikedjdprc06: sudo11:35
kbrooksjdprc06, sudo.11:35
fernasheshave you got synapse open?11:35
kbrooksjdprc06, sudo apt-get update11:35
_jasoncribbon: edit the file ~/.gnome2/session-manual11:35
kbrooksfernashes, read the error: no11:35
jdprc06nothing happens11:35
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fernasheskbrooks, isn't that the same error that you get then ? ooh, oops, permission denied - so no. :)11:35
joh6nnjdprc06: you need to type "sudo apt-get update"11:35
kbrooksjdprc06, password.11:35
diffuser78hi11:35
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kbrooksjoh6nn, hint hint: wherer?'11:36
jdprc06nothing happens when i do sudo11:36
diffuser78hi _thumper_11:36
samuel_gnome look is a wicked site11:36
joh6nnkbrooks: err... what?11:36
_jasonjdprc06: don't put sudo by itself, it precedes commands11:36
jdprc06i know11:36
_jasonjdprc06: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?11:36
jdprc06joseph@UBUNTUJOey:~$ sudo apt-get autoclean11:36
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jdprc06joseph is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:37
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jdprc06i just added myself to the sudoers group11:37
_jasonjdprc06: is this the user you created during install?11:37
jdprc06yeah but i used expert11:37
peterx2jdprc: maybe synaptic is open.11:37
jdprc06it's given me a lot of problems11:37
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_jasonjdprc06: paste what your /etc/sudoers looks like11:37
_jasonjdprc06: on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:37
Bilangepeterx2: i think it would give him another error message, if synaptic was opened11:38
davrodoes any one know of a way to reload the .bashrc once it has been edited, without opening a new terminal ?bash reload ?11:38
joh6nndavro: "source .bashrc"11:38
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avshello, tried everything from the FixVideoResolutionHowto, but im still stuck with 1024x76811:38
jdprc06i can't access it11:38
kbrooksjdprc06, don't use expert unless you are on a server11:38
cribbon_jason, hrm, i cannot find the values i addes in ~.gnome2/session11:38
_jasonjdprc06: su to root (type 'su')11:38
cribbon_jason, the file session-manual does not exist.11:39
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jdprc06ok11:39
GnarusLeoavs, have you tried to set you res manually by edititing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?11:39
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fernasheserror for when synaptic or other apt-get is open: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:39
fernashesE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:39
jdprc06that worked11:39
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avsyep, been there done that11:39
jdprc06i can open synaptic now11:39
peterx2bilange: my eyes focus on the word locked.. just a possibility11:39
yggdrasilhow can i format partition in fat32 .... mkfs.vfat /dev/hda7 ?11:39
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ompaulfernashes, are you using synaptic or apt-get for anything else while your looking for it?11:39
diffuser78is this the best chat place11:39
mwejdprc06: you need to be in the admin group and log out and back in or su - <user>11:40
GnarusLeoavs, the whole point is to add the proper resolutions to the file, so that gnome can "see" wich res. it can choose from ...11:40
diffuser78i am waiting for somebody here11:40
_jasondiffuser78: no this is the best support place11:40
lucascommand to check current network usage?11:40
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_jasondiffuser78: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic11:40
avsGnarusLeo11:40
fernashesompaul, it's not a problem it was an example for the question what the error would look like if Synaptic was also open. :)11:40
jdprc06i am in admin11:40
thomas`1hello11:40
diffuser78i was waiting on a friend who said11:40
jdprc06i guess i'm not in sudoers11:40
Russelany list where apt stores the installed packages?11:40
ompaulfernashes, well ya had me fooled :0-11:40
diffuser78he will meet me in freenode11:40
bsmhi, when i boot ubuntu i get a filesystem check every time. it always fails at 10% and sends me to console, where i can go on booting with ctr+d. filesystem is clean when i run fsck from outside ubuntu, ideas anyone?11:40
peterx2jdprc06: isf you can open synaptic the sudo must be working.. suspect you can easily download from there.11:40
_jasonjdprc06: did you put /etc/sudoers on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?11:40
DBOerm, foomatic is asking me for my default keyring password, but I dont think I have one, what do I do11:40
ompaulfernashes, :-)11:40
thomas`1i need help fixing my gnome keyboard i set it to 104 instead of pc104 how can i fix?11:40
fernashesompaul, thanks for wanting to help, though11:40
diffuser78is this ubuntu chat forum11:40
ompauldiffuser78, not in this channel11:40
mwejdprc06: you need to be in the admin group11:40
thomas`1i cant type any letters in my account11:41
jdprc06i am in the admin group11:41
fernashesdiffuser78,  this is the chat / support forum, for things on topic for ubuntu11:41
thomas`1so if i cna fix it its gotta be done thru terminal with root account11:41
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ompauldiffuser78, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel11:41
mwejdprc06: and you already were?11:41
jdprc06is this bad? (synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed11:41
jdprc06(synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed11:41
jdprc06(synaptic:8782): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed11:41
diffuser78ohh11:41
Skwid_hey !11:41
avsGnarusLeo: i did that, not too sure about my hsync and vsync, but they should be right11:41
_jasonjdprc06: admin group only works in expert install if you fix /etc/sudoers11:41
diffuser78i am ubuntu user11:41
diffuser78from usa11:41
jdprc06ok11:41
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samuel_what is the most popular gnome theme out there?11:41
davrojoh6nn, cheers for that !11:41
diffuser78i love coding and was suppposed to meet a friend for python11:41
Fireis there a hq for dapper development?11:41
_jasonsamuel_: check gnome-look.org11:41
joh6nndavro: np11:41
ompauldiffuser78, okay I say one last time, please join the channel #ubuntu-offtopic this is not a chat channel11:41
diffuser78ok11:42
diffuser78thans11:42
diffuser78thanks11:42
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GnarusLeoavs, 4:3 screen? Anyhow, Ill paste my xorg.conf file for you (though its WXGA) ... give me a sec11:42
Athirsonhow do i set icons from a program to my desktop11:42
mwejdprc06: but can you get root access at all=11:42
avsGnarusLeo, 16:10 screen11:42
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jdprc06yes11:42
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fernashessamuel_, I prefer clear looks11:42
jdprc06in terminal11:42
mwejdprc06: then as root type visudo11:42
azurehuesofblueAthirson, find the exec file and makelink... I think.11:43
mwejdprc06: then add %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL11:43
thomas`1scuse me what is the notepad editor in terminal mode? i cant use gedit11:43
ompaulFire, go to the channel #ubuntu+111:43
Athirsonbut i will do it on comandline interface11:43
GnarusLeoavs, ok, take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1042011:43
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NickGarve1thomas`1: gmacs or vi11:43
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thomas`1k11:43
fernashesthomas`1, I;d say vim, since I know that's installed and it's my preference11:43
thomas`1cuz i need to fix my keyboard layout.. i cant type any letters inmy username account11:43
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thomas`1i set it to 104 instead of pc10411:44
thomas`1and it just screwed...11:44
fernashesAthirson, is the program you want in the applications menu ?11:44
thomas`1need to edit gnome kbd somehow11:44
shivhow do I uninstall programs in wine after installing them?11:44
jdprc06do i need the %?11:44
thomas`1from here11:44
_jasonjdprc06: yes11:44
jdprc06ok11:44
joh6nnthomas`1: i believe nano is configured by default, with a somewhat intuitive set of shortcuts and what not11:44
ompaulthomas`1, do this >>>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<11:44
jdprc06i added it under user privilege specification11:44
jdprc06how do i save this11:44
thomas`1k ill brb if i run into anything11:45
jdprc06just exit out?11:45
mwejdprc06: visudo will only let you save the file if it doesn't have typos11:45
jdprc06ok but what command saves11:45
_jasonjdprc06: if it opened in vim press ESC, ZZ.  If it was nano, ctrl-o and then ctrl-x11:45
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mwejdprc06: did you change $EDITOR?11:45
GnarusLeowhy does not "cat /var/syslog > /dev/tty12 && echo" update itself? It just freeses (no update) .. is there a better way to echo the syslog in a tty?11:46
jdprc06ok i closed out11:46
_jasonjdprc06: exit and try sudo again11:46
mwejdprc06: did it save it?11:46
jdprc06yeah it's still in there11:46
Russeli want to remove a package, but the post-removal failes, anybody a solution?11:46
jdprc06yes! my sudo commands work11:46
jdprc06thank you11:46
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mweRussel: a simple solution is sometimes to reinstall it, then remove it11:47
fernashesRussel, how is it failing ?11:47
jdprc06but what are these errors? (synaptic:8988): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed11:47
jdprc06(synaptic:8988): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed11:47
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Russelfernashes, it failes because it doesn't find a tool which is removed by dist-upgrade11:47
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mwejdprc06: now you can disable root login to increase security11:48
fernashesRussel: command line or synaptic?11:48
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Russeltry installing11:48
Russelfernashes, command line11:48
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jdprc06in visudo?11:48
jdprc06i'm sorry. i'm quite a noob here11:48
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mwejdprc06: no11:49
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mwejdprc06: sudo passwd -l root11:49
TiberianGuys, you have any idea why i don't have sound ? :)11:49
mclambhi can you help me... I get this error with GnomeBaker -->  Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)11:49
paradizelostanyone know how to get rid of the damn Shift+Backspace that kills Xgl?11:49
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ompaulTiberian, what kind of sound card have you got11:49
jdprc06ok11:49
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jdprc06now i don't have root access at all?11:50
Russelreinstalling doesn't work because initramfs tools depends on a higher kernel (which is installed but doesn't work)11:50
mwejdprc06: yes with sudo11:50
paradizelostAlso, how do i change the xterm background back to black?11:50
mwejdprc06: sudo -i will give you a root prompt11:50
fernashesparadizelost: make a profile11:50
Tiberianompaul, SB Audigy LS11:50
jdprc06ok11:50
mwejdprc06: but you can't log in as root anymore11:50
thegladiatori am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?11:50
paradizelostfernashes: what do you mean by make a profile?11:50
paradizelostfernashes: what kind of profile?11:50
jdprc06thanks11:50
_jasonjdprc06: you have to do one more thing if you want your recovery mode to work11:50
jdprc06ok11:50
jdprc06what?11:50
mclambhi can you help me... I get this error with GnomeBaker -->  Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)11:51
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_jasonjdprc06: change the password field in /etc/shadow to '*' without the quotes11:51
_jasonjdprc06: for root of course11:51
fernashesparadizelost: start xterm, file -> new profile. Enter profile name -> ok. Then you'll be in a config screen for the color schemes and such11:51
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mwe_jason: so what does that do?11:51
thegladiatori am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?11:51
paradizelostfernashes: xterm doesn't have a file menu11:51
ompaulTiberian, ooch, it has been a "horrible" card to work with, for starters double click on the "speaker" icon on the top of your screen11:52
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ompaulTiberian, second check nothing is muted (and believe me something is)11:52
fernashesparadizelost: sorry, was thinking of Gnome terminal.11:52
Tiberianompaul, trust me... it's not :P~11:52
avsGnarusLeo: thanks, now ive got my 1680x1050 running at 1280x768, thats a start. I think the problem is in modeline. what exactly goes in there?11:52
ompaulTiberian, the other way to do this is to type this in a terminal11:52
_jasonmwe: passwd -l gives root a password that can't be entered.  When you try to enter recovery mode it will prompt you for that password.  Of course, you can't enter it!  This brings it back to normal so that it just brings up the root prompt without requiring a password11:52
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_jasonmwe, jdprc06: it's explained in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:53
fernashesparadizelost: are you using xterm as extra program or do you mean tty1 etc?11:53
paradizelost_jason: try this.  at your grub prompt, append to the end of the kernel line    init=/bin/bash11:53
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paradizelostfernashes: i mean alt+f2 xterm11:53
Russelargh big problem: i use an older kernel (2.6.8) and initramfs-tools want a new kernel, but i can't install a new kernel because initramfs-tools aren't properly installed11:53
thegladiatori am trying to write an ISO to a cd ... it says 100 % in k3b and is trying to "close session" but that is taking forever , what can I do to interupt this ?11:53
GnarusLeoavs, im not really sure, but you should consider setting these settings in the "dbpk-reconfigure xorg-server" advance option11:53
paradizelost_jason: then boot, it will take you to a bash shell11:53
paradizelostthen you mount -o remount,rw /11:54
_jasonparadizelost: yep, works too11:54
ompaulTiberian, alsamixer and play with that again looking for something muted11:54
thegladiatori think I am going to close the program and see11:54
_jasonparadizelost: I'm set, I was just exaplining11:54
paradizelostthen type in /usr/bin/passwd11:54
_jasonexplaining even11:54
paradizelostk11:54
paradizelostahh k11:54
avsGnarusLeo: ok, ill do that. does your temperatur monitor work in the nvidia util?11:54
ubushinehello world11:54
GnarusLeoavs, as you can see, im using ATI's fglrx11:54
_jasonubushine: hello11:54
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paradizelostfernashes: i've got Xgl w/ compiz up and running, but it changed the background of the xterms to white.11:54
fernashesparadizelost: ah, ok. not sure11:54
avsGnarusLeo: whoops, that was another xorg.conf i was looking at, sorry11:55
fernashesparadizelost: sorry, over my head11:55
ubushineanyone using enligtenment? e16 or e17?11:55
paradizelostfernashes: Ok.  i kinda figured it might be a bit of a toughy11:55
GnarusLeoavs :)11:55
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paradizelostfernashes: you know where i can change the Shift+backspace that kills X now that Xgl is running?11:55
fernashesparadizelost: I've seen it mentioned on the starters guide for Ubuntu11:55
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h36saparadizelost: ctrl+alt+backspace ?11:56
davrojoin #lugradio11:56
paradizelosth36sa: no, now that i'm running Xgl, shift backspace does that as well.11:56
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paradizelosth36sa: and i don't know how to change the behavior11:56
h36salame11:56
h36sayou in gnome?11:56
paradizelostyep11:56
h36sait might be a gnome key binding..11:57
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h36saprobably not but worth a shot11:57
Tiberianompaul, 1) Im sure it's nothing muted.. 2) dont have alsamix... [ o_O ??? ] 11:57
RageMaxanyone know what the package name for the fluendo gstreamer mp3 plugin is?11:57
RageMaxon dapper drake that is11:57
paradizelostcan't find anything in gconf-editor11:57
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fernashesRageMax: apt-cache search fluendo ... ?11:57
RageMaxdid that11:57
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RageMaxonly came up with the fluendo server11:57
paradizelostwell, i suppose i should get going to the bar.  it may help me think11:58
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ompaulTiberian, its one of those cards it is muted - simple - and alsamixer << is the command11:58
fernashesRageMax: you've got all the standard repositories ?11:58
paradizelostsee ya all later11:58
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SuperslashAnyone here good with partitions? Breezy Badger 5.10 doesnt recognize my drive as being already formatted and partitioned (with about 80gigs of unformatted space in a partition just for ubuntu). It just shows a single unformatted 200gig hdd11:59
rysiek|plguys, anybody knows where I can disable the autostarting of Konqueror and/or KsCD upon inserting a CD/inserting an USB pendrive? (in Breezy/KDE3.4.3)11:59
zFWhat's the deb for mplayer in mozilla?11:59
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zFI forgot the name11:59
jdprc06in etc/shadow, is everything following 'root : ' the password?11:59

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